[08:24] <ladydoor> bulldog_: though ogg is actually a better format and doesn't have any nasty legal issues involved with it
[08:24] <boink> is there an ubuntu .deb for lame?
[08:24] <bulldog_> sweet thanks Ladydoor you rock :-)
[08:24] <hawaisurf> flicovent: nope but I will do soon I guess..
[08:24] <silent_scream> ladydoor, is there anyway to execute the script directly when i double click on it? i mean not t ask me things etc... :D
[08:24] <ladydoor> bulldog_: thanks muchly. glad to help
[08:25] <linux1> the latest kernel upgrade hosed my vmware player, anyone know how to get it working again?
[08:25] <Toaster> Lard-O-Lad, well..I do :P I followed this guide: http://knowledge76.com/index.php/XGL/Compiz_Nvidia_32bit
[08:25] <ladydoor> silent_scream: oh...is it asking you thing? weird. what's it asking you?
[08:25] <JAnderson> is there another way of insatlling instead of booting from cd???
[08:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: I didnt try the hosed one, I just knew how to get the one I linked..  I also dont know how to keep apt from trying to hose you again.
[08:25] <bulldog_> will use ogg then
[08:25] <bulldog_> goodday all
[08:25] <hawaisurf> jack_sparrow: my ubuntu knowledge is really low but you want me to list the file sources.list?
[08:25] <boink> you can paste it, but not here
[08:25] <boink> !paste
[08:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:25] <eyequeue> JAnderson, do you have a debian-based os in place already?
[08:25] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: I wouldnt mind learning that one
[08:26] <JAnderson> i dont think so win xp is on the computer
[08:26] <Bonez56> Paddy_EIRE, doesn't work :( E: flashplugin-nonfree: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[08:26] <Samuli^> Bonez56, same here.
[08:26] <eyequeue> JAnderson, no then, i don't think so
[08:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: There is a remove- or purge command to do it but I am not a cli guy..
[08:26] <silent_scream> ladydoor, i mean not to ask me if i want to execute it or just to display it or cancel etc...
[08:26] <Bonez56> Samuli^, I wonder if anyone actually is aware of it.
[08:26] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_S
[08:26] <Angeltronix> is it safe to create new partitions in Ext3, reiser, etc. format in a HDD with 2 or more NTFS's partitions with data on it?   I'll do it using gparted
[08:26] <Samuli^> Bonez56, and for quite a few other's too. So think they are.
[08:26] <ladydoor> silent_scream: hmmm...is there a "do this every time" option in the dialog box?
[08:26] <JAnderson> what needs to be done to put it on???
[08:26] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: gonna try a thing i found
[08:26] <C-O-L-T> I use Banshee as my audio management tool, but I have a problem with it, it does not displays all my songs rhythmbox displays all to me but I prefer Banshee. Any opinion?
[08:27] <JAnderson> if there is a way
[08:27] <Bonez56> Samuli^, cool, that's the main thing. Hopefully a fix will be released soon :)
[08:27] <hawaisurf> Jack_Sparrow: ok I listed what you told me...
[08:27] <silent_scream> ladydoor, nope
[08:27] <ladydoor> silent_scream: otherwise, you might try clicking on the execute it option, close it, and then try again
[08:27] <ladydoor> :-/
[08:27] <Jack_Sparrow> hawaisurf: It should have given you a link# to post here..
[08:27] <laddercoins_> Byes
[08:27] <Samuli^> Bonez56, yeah, you could rollback for the older package for now.
[08:27] <boink> !easy-source
[08:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about easy-source - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:27] <Jack_Sparrow> !easysource
[08:27] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:27] <boink> aaah, ta
[08:27] <ladydoor> silent_scream: hmmm...i'm sorry, i don't know--i don't use gnome
[08:27] <Paddy_EIRE> Bonez56: will get back to u in a sec
[08:28] <bruno> hello everybody
[08:28] <eyequeue> Angeltronix, all those fs's are safe and won't hurt any other partitions
[08:28] <hawaisurf> Jack_Sparrow: well I have like four links....should I go there?
[08:28] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: perhaps that link u gave me earlier might help Bonez56
[08:28] <Bob535> Is there a way (and a tutorial) on how to get either quicktime or wmv embeded in webpages to work under ubuntu?
[08:28] <bruno> did one of you ever succeed to use dual screen with an i915 chipset ?
[08:28] <Jack_Sparrow> paddy yes it would
[08:29] <Jack_Sparrow> hawaisurf: When you post to the pastebin... you should have a link to what you posted...
[08:29] <silent_scream> ok thnx for all
[08:29] <blacktiger> hey
[08:29] <Jack_Sparrow> hawaisurf: something like this    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24268
[08:30] <Bob535> !video
[08:30] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[08:30] <Bob535> !quicktime
[08:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:30] <hawaisurf> Jack_Sparrow...Ok I check it now..
[08:30] <kjm_> is there a way to fully remove xfce-desktop and reinstall fresh?
[08:30] <kjm_> I have no access to a window manager right now - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24267
[08:30] <kjm_> happened after installing xffm
[08:31] <blacktiger> could somebody help me with setting up wlan, with a am1772 chipset
[08:31] <boink> !wifi
[08:31] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:32] <blacktiger> everything works but when i insert the card i think 2 modules wants to handle it
[08:32] <chrishoeppner> anyone about rar archives?
[08:32] <Jack_Sparrow> !rar
[08:32] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[08:32] <hawaisurf> Jack_Sparrow: ok there I have two small rutines....should I execute dem?
[08:32] <Samuli^> kjm_ do you mean you want to reinstall xubuntu-desktop?
[08:32] <blacktiger> boink that doesnt help me.... looked everywhere in the forum and doks
[08:32] <boink> and is the chip set supported in the linux kernel?
[08:32] <chrishoeppner> I have installed unrar-free, but it's not able to handle my rar archive. seems like it's rar3
[08:32] <Jack_Sparrow> hawaisurf: I have no idea what you are doing...  Please read instructions on how to use the pastebin.
[08:32] <boink> what does ifconfig say?
[08:33] <Samuli^> kjm_, you might want to try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg before you reinstall the whole thing by: sudo apt-get install --reinstall xubuntu-desktop
[08:33] <JAnderson> is it poss to install version6.06 LTS on a machine with win xp home edition
[08:33] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[08:33] <blacktiger> i dont know, but when i use ndiswrapper its intalled and the hardware is found
[08:33] <hawaisurf> Jack_Sparrow: ok!
[08:33] <JAnderson> how do i go about it??
[08:34] <blacktiger> just look on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=262060 for more info
[08:34] <yaman> hello every one
[08:34] <Jack_Sparrow> JAnderson: create unallocated space on your hard drive and install ubuntu..
[08:34] <engie> Ohh dear. Apparantly I'm banned from #ubuntu+1 (according to Gaim). This makes me sad.
[08:34] <JAnderson> i am not to sure how to??
[08:34] <SimonAnibal-Work> boy I'm getting a lot of "Could not mark all packages for installation or upgrade" errors in Synaptic while following Community Ubuntu Documentations
[08:34] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: sry man I cant find that link in my history...if it easily accessible to u could u give it to Bonez56
[08:35] <kintaro0e> hello everyone..need advice on ssl cert..how can i make one?if i already made one..where can i check it?
[08:35] <SimonAnibal-Work> Lots of unresolvable dependencies
[08:35] <Jack_Sparrow> http://blog.mypapit.net/2006/08/install-mozilla-flash-plugin-in-ubuntu.html
[08:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: 10 lashes
[08:35] <JAnderson> will that link do??
[08:35] <Paddy_EIRE> sry man]
[08:35] <yaman> please guys i can't make my sound card in my laptop(asus A6r) - atiixp work i did download the alsa and install it and i did update the kernel header i did every thing but no sound come from the speaker do any one know what should i do
[08:35] <yaman> ?
[08:36] <Jack_Sparrow> SimonAnibal-Work: I must ask... Have you run scripts like Automatix, (NOT recommending that you do.) to install anything?
[08:36] <Paddy_EIRE> Bonez56: try this http://blog.mypapit.net/2006/08/install-mozilla-flash-plugin-in-ubuntu.html
[08:36] <InsydeH2O> hi folks.
[08:36] <ivan-m> hi everybody, I'm looking for some help with WPA in a fresh 6.06 installation
[08:36] <voraistos> yaman: are u sure everythings plugged properly ?
 how do i go about that???
[08:36] <SimonAnibal-Work> Jack_Sparrow: No I've not, last time I did, it crashed webpages with flash content. I started from scratch using the Ubuntu Community Documentation and I simply can't install the packages it says I should.
[08:37] <Jack_Sparrow> JAnderson: Run the live cd and make sure it works ok.. click on install
[08:37] <yaman> yeah i am sure and the speaker is in the task bar this happend on ubuntu and knoppix
[08:37] <yaman> it;'s working on windows but not on linux
[08:37] <dougalater> im getting this error when i try to get flash plugins   E: flashplugin-nonfree: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[08:37] <sportillo_> hola
[08:37] <Jack_Sparrow> SimonAnibal-Work: Did you do a full reinstall after you tried it ?
[08:37] <JAnderson> have done but seems to stop at uninstalling linux.....ok booting kernal then noting?????
[08:37] <dougalater> what can i do
[08:37] <JAnderson> thats booting from cd now
[08:38] <SimonAnibal-Work> Jack_Sparrow: Nodnod, full reinstall just this morning, the only other things I've done since the full reinstall was install aiglx+compiz
[08:38] <ivan-m> Can anybody tell me where can I configure WPA? I'm using Ubuntu 6.06, and Network Manager only shows WEP encryption for my wireless card (ipw220)
[08:38] <voraistos> SimonAnibal-Work : do u mean that it cant find the files in the repos ?
[08:38] <eyequeue> dougalater, /var/llib/dpkg/info/flashplugin-nonfree.postinst
[08:39] <Jack_Sparrow> SimonAnibal-Work: You might have better luck in that channel.... if all you did was freash install and compiz
[08:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !xgl
[08:39] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:39] <Bonez56> Paddy_EIRE, thanks
[08:39] <eyequeue> dougalater, run lines for there with sudo, until you find the bad one, then report a bug
[08:39] <eyequeue> !bugs > dougalater
[08:39] <blacktiger> ndiswrapper (KeCancelTimer:711): invalid wrap_timer --> What does this mean, I think this one part of a problem I have...
[08:39] <dougalater> fukles
[08:39] <Jack_Sparrow> SimonAnibal-Work: You can post your sources.list to the pastebin and I can look at it..
[08:39] <kjm> Samuli^ - thanks for the try, but still having issues.
[08:39] <dougalater> how will i know its bad?
[08:40] <Paddy_EIRE> Bonez56: thank Jack_Sparrow hes the man
[08:40] <Paddy_EIRE> lol
[08:40] <JAnderson> well any ideas <Jack_Sparrow>????
[08:40] <Bonez56> Jack_Sparrow, thanks for the link :D
[08:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Bonez56: Sure, I do all the work and you thak Patty  :)
[08:40] <Bonez56> Jack_Sparrow, rofl, sorry, didn't realise :)
[08:40] <SimonAnibal-Work> voraistos, Jack_Sparrow: e.g. I'm trying to install totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin and I get "Could not mark all packages for installation or upgrade" The following packages have unresolvable dependencies. Make sure that all required repositories are added and enabled in the preferences. totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin: Depends: totem-gstreamer (=1.4.1-0ubuntu4) but 1.4.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[08:40] <C-O-L-T> I use Banshee as my audio management tool, but I have a problem with it, it does not displays all my songs rhythmbox displays all to me but I prefer Banshee. Any opinion?
[08:40] <Jack_Sparrow> JAnderson: Thinking...
[08:40] <JAnderson> ok sorry :)
[08:40] <Samuli^> kjm, I thought about it and I don't think reinstalling xubuntu-desktop with apt-get is going to reinstall it's depencies.
[08:40] <SimonAnibal-Work> Jack_Sparrow: pastebin?
[08:40] <yaman> well is there some thing i can try to do not alsa some thing else to make my ati sound card work on the ubuntu ?
[08:40] <dougalater> sudo: /var/llib/dpkg/info/flashplugin-nonfree.postinst: command not found
[08:41] <Jack_Sparrow> !pastebin
[08:41] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:41] <blacktiger> somebody... ndiswrapper (KeCancelTimer:711): invalid wrap_timer --> What does this mean, I think this one part of a problem I have...
[08:41] <Blob> Hi all -- trying to compile wine on ubuntu dapper for amd64 -- I get message "unable to find source for wine"  on  "apt-get build-dep wine" command.  What must I do?
[08:41] <Jack_Sparrow> SimonAnibal-Work: gedit  /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:41] <yaman> well is there some thing i can try to do not alsa some thing else to make my ati sound card work on the ubuntu ?
[08:41] <SimonAnibal-Work> Jack_Sparrow: You beat me to it :)
[08:41] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[08:42] <Samuli^> kjm, maybe with aptitude it will, you could try that. Otherwise you just need to remove --purge some elementary library-package or something like that and then install it again.
[08:42] <yaman> lease some one help well is there some thing i can try to do not alsa some thing else to make my ati sound card work on the ubuntu ?
[08:42] <SimonAnibal-Work> Jack_Sparrow: pasted
[08:43] <Samuli^> blob, there isn't 64bit wine.
[08:43] <Jack_Sparrow> JAnderson: I'm a little preoccupied atm... I have some work to get done (They pay me)  and I just want to finish up a couple of other quesions I had working..
[08:43] <Jack_Sparrow> SimonAnibal-Work:  I need the number...
[08:43] <kjm> Samuli^ - ok, I shall give that a go.
[08:44] <SimonAnibal-Work> Jack_Sparrow 24269
[08:44] <Jack_Sparrow> SimonAnibal-Work:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24267  something like this
[08:44] <Toaster> what do I need to install to get alsaconf?
[08:44] <JAnderson> ok ill call back later and if your about i might wreck your brain  for a few :)
[08:44] <C-O-L-T> who uses Banshee?
[08:44] <yaman> do any one have a tutoruial for installing soud drivers on the ubuntu ?
[08:45] <abeehc> dude
[08:45] <kjm> !alsa
[08:45] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[08:45] <voraistos> SimonAnibal-Work : sorry to be late, do u have totem-xine installed ?
[08:46] <SimonAnibal-Work> voraistos: nope, fresh install
[08:46] <Jack_Sparrow> SimonAnibal-Work: that looks clean...
[08:46] <voraistos> SimonAnibal-Work : do you have access to synaptic ?
[08:46] <SimonAnibal-Work> voraistos: It's what I'm using
[08:46] <SimonAnibal-Work> Jack_Sparrow: That makes me feel better :) I suppose
[08:47] <kjm> Samuli^ - I'm trying reinstall again.  Will check it out in nested session and let you know.
[08:47] <voraistos> SimonAnibal-Work : go to the repositories section
[08:47] <Jack_Sparrow> People, I need to get going, I have several hours of work to do if I am going to install this hardware tomorrow... Play nice...
[08:47] <SimonAnibal-Work> there
[08:47] <Jack_Sparrow> SimonAnibal-Work: :)
[08:47] <SimonAnibal-Work> Jack_Sparrow Have a great day, Cap'n, and thanks for your attention!
[08:47] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[08:47] <dougalater> im having flash problems
[08:48] <SimonAnibal-Work> voraistos I'm there
[08:48] <voraistos> remove everything
[08:48] <SimonAnibal-Work> voraistos done
[08:48] <voraistos> SimonAnibal-Work : did you do that in synaptic ?
[08:48] <SimonAnibal-Work> voraistos nodnodnod
[08:49] <voraistos> ok, u add all the repos manually now
[08:49] <^Ocean^> okay, so my sound card just gave up the ghost... and im lookin at buying a new one.   Whats best for ubuntu support ? reccomendations
[08:50] <SimonAnibal-Work> voraistos done, reloaded, and...hey, it works now
[08:50] <SimonAnibal-Work> voraistos very strange, as I'd reloaded it several times before
[08:50] <SimonAnibal-Work> voraistos Nevertheless, I appreciate your patient attention
[08:50] <voraistos> SimonAnibal-Work : you have done that quick !
[08:50] <Toaster> what do I need to install to get alsaconf?
[08:50] <voraistos> SimonAnibal-Work : are you sure youve done all the repos ?
[08:51] <cRiM|> ok got a question, everytime i install ubuntu.. and restart.. it gives me error 16 at the grub loader.. why would that be?
[08:51] <SimonAnibal-Work> voraistos Yeah, Synaptic is pretty easy like that
[08:51] <ryanoz> #join ubuntu-offtopic
[08:51] <voraistos> SimonAnibal-Work : dont forget scurity updates etc, and the dev so u can compile stuff later on
[08:52] <SimonAnibal-Work> voraistos yeap, e'er'thing
[08:52] <SimonAnibal-Work> voraistos I wasn't kidding
[08:52] <Vanique> NthDegree: Available ? vegot an IT issue
[08:52] <Vanique> ;]
[08:52] <b1_xt> Hi
[08:52] <cRiM|> or not =/
[08:52] <voraistos> SimonAnibal-Work : nice its working ubuntu is pretty crappy sometimes, dunno why, need fixes
[08:53] <cRiM|> anyone know why i get error 16 after i install ubuntu.. its a fresh install
[08:53] <SimonAnibal-Work> voraistos Was it maybe adding the repository to get the aiglx+compiz stuff that gave it Alzheimer's?
[08:53] <b1_xt> I ve got a problem. I can play video, but there's no sound.
[08:54] <Answer> Hello.  I am trying to read and write to serial port /dev/ttyS3 in Ubuntu6.06 and I do not get any errors but I do not get any return from the serial port.  Does anybody have expertise with ubuntu serial ports?
[08:54] <voraistos> SimonAnibal-Work : dont think so. i had this trouble doing nothing before.People just told me i was a poor noob
[08:55] <Pierre> eyequeue, systemrescuecd works out of the box, fixed (mysql did nasty things in etc nodes...
[08:55] <Pierre> eyequeue, thx for the help
[08:55] <SimonAnibal-Work> voraistos I'm certainly a noob to some
[08:55] <voraistos> SimonAnibal-Work : im not good enough to report bugs yet i think, but there are a few things that make me want to go back to my debian darling
[08:55] <eyequeue> Pierre, no problem, glad to hear it is working now
[08:56] <SimonAnibal-Work> voraistos Ubuntu is my first taste of Linux
[08:56] <jikuty> woohooo :D i just got some ubuntu discs in the mail... and they came with kickass stickers.
[08:56] <voraistos> SimonAnibal-Work : thats a good thing, its quite easy of use
[08:56] <jikuty> my case is proudly displaying the Ubuntu logo now.
[08:56] <SimonAnibal-Work> jikuty Didn't they? I was pretty happy with that, too
[08:56] <jikuty> I'm VERY impressed.
[08:56] <jikuty> im gonna distribute these to anyone unsatisfied with windows :D
[08:57] <cRiM|> anyone know how to fix the error 16 on a fresh install of ubuntu
[08:57] <cRiM|> ?
[08:57] <voraistos> jikuty thats not enough: you have to give them to peoplewho think they are satisfied with windows.
[08:57] <SimonAnibal-Work> voraistos It's a good place to learn, and it was easy to setup the labs quickly (I'm in charge of supporting 9 Linux classrooms in the high school I work at as technology assistant, we're one of the school that got the ACCESS Indiana grants but our corporate IT department washed its hands of supporting us)
[08:58] <jikuty> voraistos: good point
[08:58] <jikuty> a friend of mine already has requested one
[08:58] <jikuty> has already*
[08:58] <Zebraphp> Hello
[08:58] <Zebraphp> Can someone please dierct me to the Live Cd downlaod page?
[08:59] <Pierre> Zebraphp, you are not good to read the manual, are you? ;-)
[08:59] <voraistos> SimonAnibal-Work : sounds cool. So people will not be wasted learning how to crash windows :)
[08:59] <Toaster> how do I get "alsaconf" ???
[08:59] <Zebraphp> heh, you're everywhere :)
[08:59] <cRiM|> voraistos: do you know how to fix a error 16.. i just installed ubuntu.. yet it gives me an error 16..
[08:59] <^Ocean^> okay, so my sound card just gave up the ghost... and im lookin at buying a new one.   Whats best for ubuntu support ? reccomendations ?
[08:59] <Zuu> wheres the user folders created in ubuntu ?
[09:00] <SimonAnibal-Work> voraistos So far they're blaming all the problems on Linux and asking "Why can't we use Windows?" I'm hoping to change that with a major upgrade to the image when Edgy comes out
[09:00] <voraistos> cRiM| please be more precise... i am not on the dev team ;)
[09:00] <SimonAnibal-Work> voraistos And aiglx+compiz is part of that plan
[09:00] <osten> uh-oh.. I have a big problem
[09:00] <Zebraphp> I just want to check it out.. so I perfer the link over erading he maual :)
[09:00] <Zebraphp> link anyone?
[09:00] <Angeltronix> hola sportillo_ que quieres saber?
[09:00] <b1_xt> Can anyone help me? I don't know what to do to enable sound in videos. I think i need some codecs, but i dunno what ones!
[09:00] <voraistos> SimonAnibal-Work : thats gonna be good. they are gonna be pissed off: they wanted to buy Macs ;) :) lol
[09:00] <cRiM|> voraistos: ok i just installed ubuntu.. i restart.. and it gets to the grub loader.. it says error 16.. filesystem error
[09:00] <osten> I can't use my ctrl button
[09:00] <Rondom> !restricedformats
[09:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restricedformats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:01] <Pierre> Zebraphp, http://releases.ubuntu.com/dapper/
[09:01] <Zebraphp> thanks
[09:01] <SimonAnibal-Work> voraistos Naw, the State gave us money specifically for Linux boxes
[09:01] <osten> whenever I hold it down I get this fh87Q
[09:01] <voraistos> cRiM| did u actually format ? how, etc ?
[09:01] <cRiM|> i used the installer.. i formatted the whole drive.. and it wrote new partitions on it
[09:02] <Zebraphp> Are you suer that's live cd?
[09:02] <Zebraphp> I do nto want to install i on HD
[09:02] <Zebraphp> just run it from CD
[09:02] <Blob> Samuli^, there is no ready package, but it supposedly can be compiled (at least according to winehq)  I'm trying to follow those instructions
[09:02] <voraistos> very strange. i am sorry i cant help on that. u might want to reinstall. i dunno how to check and repair that
[09:02] <Pierre> Zebraphp, the install cd is the livecd, the first boot option is to start it, the install is done by clicking the install icon on the desktop
[09:02] <b1_xt> Zebraphp, it is both a LiveCD and install
[09:03] <Zebraphp> ooh.. I see now
[09:03] <Zebraphp> thanks gentlemen!
[09:03] <bsdfox> how easy is it to install ubuntu on a portable usb hard drive (2.5") that will boot?
[09:03] <bsdfox> I've done it with knoppix before
[09:03] <voraistos> Zuu /home
[09:03] <armand> hi, i just installed ubuntu 6.06.1...whenever i try to do something in the gui that requires root it says "wrong password" when i type in my password into the password dialog... this is a fresh install, not sure what happened
[09:04] <Zuu> voraistos, Goodie :)
[09:04] <armand> i can su to root fine in a terminal window
[09:04] <chrishoeppner> is there any good ftp app in the repos?
[09:04] <jrib> armand: go to applications > accessories > terminal and type 'sudo echo hi' without quotes.  What does it return?
[09:04] <armand> password prompt, and none of the passwords i set work.  root, or my user that was created at install
[09:04] <knurg> Boot problem; MBR was deleted and Grub is gone. How do I boot my ubuntu? Could i use install-cd with F6 and some parameters? If so, how? Thanks
[09:05] <armand> i tried sudo passwd root as root and set that password, but that doesnt work either
[09:05] <jrib> armand: no, you shouldn't need to set a root password.  It is asking for your user password.  What does the command 'groups' return?
[09:05] <Zuu> voraistos, Thanks btw :)
[09:05] <armand> the user is in both adm and admin, and adm and admin are both in /etc/sudoers
[09:06] <flicovent> Cya, cheers for your help with the G3. We'll just try another disk. :) :(
[09:06] <armand> (i put adm there myself just to try for some odd reason)
[09:07] <armand> hrmph
[09:07] <armand> it was something in Defaults
[09:07] <armand> i commented out defaults and now sudo's working
[09:07] <armand> lets see...
[09:07] <kasia> #misiekkasia
[09:07] <kasia> # misiekkasia
[09:08] <armand> tty_tickets in Defaults in /etc/sudoers is what was causeing it
[09:08] <armand> i have no idea what that does heh, buit i'll checkout the manpage for a little knowledge
[09:08] <armand> welp, thanks
[09:08] <armand> lateron
[09:08] <armand> !
[09:11] <eugman> I could use more information for https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CliDesktop so I can work on making it a good article.
[09:11] <ladydoor> eugman: what do you need?
[09:11] <cbx33> I have just got a 4200 X2 proc, do I have to do anything to a default dapper to make best use of it ?
[09:11] <silikon> Hey folks, anybody have any luck getting a Linksys WPC53G v2 running on 6.06?  I'm using ndiswrapper - systems sees card but I can't establish a connection with my access point...
[09:11] <variant> Package sun-j2sdk1.5 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:11] <variant> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[09:11] <variant> is only available from another source
[09:11] <variant> how can i fix that?
[09:11] <eugman> ladydoor, my knowledge of command line programs and how to manage a machine via shell is limited.
[09:11] <jrib> variant: do you have dapper multiverse in your sources.list?
[09:11] <gnomefreak> variant: install sun-java5-sdk
[09:11] <kasia> join #misiekkasia
[09:12] <ladydoor> eugman: if i may ask, then, why does this article fall to you?
[09:12] <Cafer> What does ubuntu desktop have that ubuntu server doesn't?
[09:12] <variant> jrib: yeah
[09:12] <gnomefreak> Cafer: gui
[09:12] <eugman> For example I have no idea if printing is possible from the command line.
[09:12] <jrib> variant: what arch are you using?
[09:12] <Cafer> Would desktop run ok on a P3 400Mhz?
[09:12] <Cafer> 256mb of ram
[09:12] <gnomefreak> Cafer: yes
[09:12] <variant> jrib: x86
[09:12] <eugman> ladydoor, because I made it. So that it would exist and so I could learn more.
[09:12] <Cafer> Or would it be quite slow gnome?
[09:12] <gnomefreak> Cafer: i ran fine on a P2 400mhz 512 ram
[09:12] <kjm> Samuli^ : Me again.  Thanks for the tips.  aptitude remove --purge didn't work, but apt-get remove --purge did...very strange.  But, all is well :)
[09:13] <Cafer> Ah ok
[09:13] <jrib> variant: ok, you are sure you have dapper multiverse?  not just dapper-backports multiverse?
[09:13] <gnomefreak> Cafer: not really as slow as you think
[09:13] <Cafer> Did you tweak it at all
[09:13] <gnomefreak> Cafer: but not _fast_
[09:13] <variant> Cafer: use xfce4.. its simmilar looking and feel to gnome but much much much faster
[09:13] <variant> jrib: will check
[09:13] <gnomefreak> Cafer: not speed wise no
[09:13] <eugman> ladydoor, from what i could find there was no article covering this so i made one and hoped I could get people to extend it past what I know.
[09:13] <Cafer> Ah okay variant, so should I get server then install xfce4?
[09:13] <ladydoor> eugman: cool beans. how do i get on this boat?
[09:13] <variant> Cafer: if your using server why do you want a desktop at all?
[09:14] <variant> Cafer: get desktop xubuntu
[09:14] <jrib> variant: oh, I see the problem.  The package name is
[09:14] <Samuli^> kjm, yeah, I don't think there's --purge option for aptitude.. just purge instead remove. man aptitude to see if I'm right :)
[09:14] <boabsta> hi all, i just updated ubuntu last week and since i've rebooted all the fonts are really, really small. Anyone know how to fix this?
[09:14] <jrib> variant: sun-java5-jdk
[09:14] <Cafer> Ah thank you variant
[09:14] <Cafer> One more thing
[09:14] <variant> jrib: yeah, but installing other programs calls that.. i didnt enter it manual
[09:14] <variant> Cafer: np
[09:14] <jrib> variant: ah... what package?
[09:14] <eugman> ladydoor, mainly by adding sections and programs. I can still sort things out and try to format it but I need information first.
[09:14] <kjm> Samuli^ - yes, it was aptitude purge <foo> that I tried - still no joy.  But, apt-get remove --purge did the trick.
[09:14] <Cafer> If I ran this machine headless, and ran a VNC program, would I be able to view it with a VNC viewer on my XP box?
[09:14] <variant> jrib: audacity
[09:15] <variant> Cafer: yeah
[09:15] <ladydoor> eugman: just a sec
[09:15] <Cafer> Would I need samba or anything
[09:15] <kjm> Cafer : yes, absolutly
[09:15] <variant> Cafer: if your using headless why do you want a desktop at all? much easyer without xserver or gnome or anything.. more secure too
[09:15] <recon0> What program should I run/compile a ".bas" file with?
[09:15] <Samuli^> kjm, ok. That's odd.
[09:15] <boabsta> does anyone know what to do when all the fonts are suddenly really small?
[09:16] <Cafer> Well, I wanted to use it for torrenting mainly.
[09:16] <jpjacobs> Cafer, you'd be better off with Xforwarding over ssh ;)
[09:16] <kalif> recon0: try "file filename.bas"
[09:16] <radial> is someone working fixing the flashplugin-nonfree update issue?
[09:16] <variant> Cafer: there is command line torrent clients/server
[09:16] <kjm> Samuli^ - yup :).  But, oh well.  Tried both, and even a 50 % hit rate repaired the problem.
[09:16] <boabsta> Cafer: you can get a torrent with a web WUI somewhere
[09:16] <eugman> Does anyone know if you can print pdf's by terminal?
[09:16] <boabsta> Cafer: cant remember the name of it
[09:16] <recon0> kalif: it's in ASCII text.
[09:16] <Samuli^> kjm, all is well then :)
[09:16] <jrib> variant: this is audacity from dapper repos?
[09:16] <recon0> it's in some sort of BASIC language, though.
[09:17] <variant> jrib: edgy
[09:17] <amorfo> Cafer, you can try installing torrentflux, it's web driven and you don't need X, very cool
[09:17] <Subhuman> boabsta, utorrent
[09:17] <SatanGolga> what burning application is recommended?
[09:17] <Subhuman> it runs in wine
[09:17] <kalif> recon0: what is the first line?
[09:17] <variant> SatanGolga: cdrecord
[09:17] <jrib> variant: #ubuntu+1 for edgy
[09:17] <Subhuman> not sure about the web frontend working though
[09:17] <variant> SatanGolga: or if you like a guy k3b owns
[09:17] <recon0> kalif: :10 DIM D(5),K1(8),K2(8),K3(8),S(8,8),Q(8,10),D$(5)"
[09:17] <kalif> ehhhh
[09:17] <Cafer> amorfo: when you say web driven, would I control it from another box?
[09:17] <SatanGolga> ok, thanks!
[09:18] <variant> Cafer: yeah
[09:18] <amorfo> yes Cafer
[09:18] <recon0> kalif: it's in a BASIC language from what I recognize.
[09:18] <Answer> Is there some daemon that starts up and takes over the serial ports?  Maybe to init a mouse or something?
[09:18] <kalif> recon0: looks some sort of output from some other program
[09:18] <boabsta> recon0: try REALbasic :)
[09:18] <Cafer> Ah thanks ever so much for your help, guys
[09:18] <amorfo> check it out Cafer: http://www.torrentflux.com/
[09:18] <recon0> kalif: no, it's BASIC.
[09:18] <kalif> ok
[09:19] <recon0> kalif: now, to find an interpreter!
[09:19] <boabsta> recon0: try REALbasic :)
[09:19] <cbx33> is there a way to confirm that my processor is running dual core as it should?
[09:19] <recon0> boabsta: it seems like I have to pay for it.
[09:19] <boabsta> oh though tit was free - sorry
[09:19] <boabsta> *thought it :/
[09:20] <jpjacobs> cbx33, less /proc/cpuinfo should show 2 procs
[09:20] <eugman> Hey is there a way to give a wav file a title so that it will be burnt with that title?
[09:20] <cbx33> jpjacobs, no I only see one
[09:20] <Zuu> err... i just installed ubuntu, and it hawe now come to my attention, that i didnt actually supplyed a root pass anywhere
[09:20] <boabsta> so does anyone know why all my fonts (even the logon manager) are tiny now?
[09:20] <boabsta> Zuu: no need in Ubuntu
[09:21] <cbx33> jpjacobs, what am I doing wrong?
[09:21] <boabsta> Zuu: root is disabled by default
[09:21] <Shish> Zuu: ubuntu avoids the root account; everything is done with sudo and your regular password
[09:21] <eyequeue> !root > Zuu
[09:21] <Zuu> w000t
[09:21] <afief> Hello everybody, i installed ubuntu on my home computer for my family to try it, but made the partition too small(3GB only) now everytime i try to login gnome gives me an error about diskspace. how can i solve this?
[09:21] <Zuu> totally confusing
[09:21] <eyequeue> Zuu, root is bad, but see the url from ubotu
[09:21] <jpjacobs> cbx33, atlest i thought it was that way...
[09:21] <jikuty> afief: youd probably have to repartition to allow more space?
[09:22] <Zuu> :/ ahh i have disabled pms
[09:22] <jpjacobs> cbx33, second, i'll see on some server...
[09:22] <afief> jikuty: isn't there a way to solve it without repartitioning?
[09:22] <Cafer> What's a nice VNC server that'd be compatible with ubuntu?
[09:22] <Cafer> Nevermind
[09:22] <jikuty> hm, there might be
[09:22] <jikuty> im not sure :D
[09:22] <cbx33> jpjacobs, thanks
[09:22] <cbx33> this is a stock dapper install
[09:22] <cbx33> do I need to install the SMP kernel?
[09:22] <jikuty> someone in here is bound to know the answer :)
[09:22] <Paddy_EIRE> anyone know when an update will be release to fix the flashplugin-nonfree bug ppl seem to be having
[09:22] <recon0> it's 42
[09:23] <jpjacobs> cbx33, i was right, here on a 4 proc machine it shows 4cpu's in /proc/cpuinfo
[09:23] <cbx33> jpjacobs, did you install the SMP kernel
[09:23] <Zuu> well... err. cant i make a regular root user then ?
[09:23] <jpjacobs> cbx33, indeed you need SMP to use the 2procs
[09:23] <cbx33> how easy is that
[09:23] <Paddy_EIRE> Zuu: yes you can
[09:23] <jpjacobs> cbx33, it's not my machine ;)
[09:23] <cbx33> *bah*
[09:23] <cbx33> hehe
[09:23] <cbx33> ;)
[09:24] <afief> jikuty: i was thinking about moving a directory like /bin to a seperate partition and then mount it automagically everytime the kernel boots
[09:24] <Paddy_EIRE> Zuu: although I dont know why you'd need it with sudo
[09:24] <Zuu> Paddy_EIRE, cool.. one that works like in many other linuxes :)
wont really be the same you will probably have to fix many permissions yourself
[09:24] <Zuu> Paddy_EIRE, i like the idea of beiing able to log in like 'root' when i need to do a lot of installing ans stuff like that
[09:24] <Paddy_EIRE> Zuu: thats why sudo is so handy
[09:25] <afief> zuu why don't you just use sudo -i?
[09:25] <knurg> Boot problem; MBR was deleted and Grub is gone. How do I boot my ubuntu? Could i use install-cd with F6 and some parameters to boot the kernel on hdd?
[09:25] <Paddy_EIRE> Zuu: not a smart idea
[09:25] <Paddy_EIRE> Zuu: 1 sec ill get you the guide
[09:25] <Zuu> afief, that like a globalising of root permissions ?
[09:25] <Zuu> this is soo confusing to me :S
[09:25] <zekery234> ubuntu rocks!
[09:25] <engie> Hi. I have, apparantly, been banned from o#ubuntu+1. How do I go about figuring out why, and how to get this lifted?
[09:26] <albacker> is edgy somewhere near to stable, or i should wait til the final day ?
[09:26] <afief> zuu, like you'll have a terminal window in which you are root, but the other stuff is not affected. when you are done being root, just close the window
[09:26] <jrib> engie: #ubuntu-ops
[09:26] <Zuu> afief, sur
[09:26] <Zuu> e
[09:26] <Paddy_EIRE> Zuu: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-31053.html Should work with dapper aswell
[09:26] <Zuu> but i want to 'log in' as root, before i start the gui and everythibng
[09:27] <radial> Zuu, very bad idea.
[09:27] <afief> Zuu, i came from fedora and was used to my root account, but nowaday i prefer being a normal user for everything but installations
[09:27] <Zuu> radial, not imho
[09:27] <Zuu> :)
[09:27] <Zuu> afief, exactly!
[09:27] <Paddy_EIRE> radial: he doesnt seem understand the benefits of sudo
[09:27] <radial> Zuu, you're welcome to destroy your machine. That doesn't make it a good idea in anyone's opinion :-)
[09:28] <Zuu> im sure that sudo is not much different than su in suse
[09:28] <afief> Zuu, installations aren't so complicated that they need a seperate login;)
[09:28] <ProN00b> blargh when i enable dual screen i can only select 50hz refresh rate
[09:28] <ProN00b> (instead of the usual 60)
[09:28] <Zuu> afief, you dont understand..
[09:28] <jikuty> what's wrong with logging in as a root though?
[09:28] <jikuty> if he wants to do it, he should be able to
[09:28] <H4ns> hi.  what is the easiest way to enable nat on an ubuntu system?  i have an external ethernet interface as well as an internal one and i want the internal hosts be able to use the external connection.  i am used to the shell, but if there is a "click and reboot" way, i'd prefer that.
[09:28] <jikuty> without everyone glaring at him :p
[09:28] <ProN00b> how can i force it to use same refresh rate as with single screen ?
[09:28] <nickspoon> he can, just "sudo su" :)
[09:28] <Zuu> this is not just about one install once in a while.. this is like install mania
[09:28] <Zuu> hehe
[09:28] <afief> jikuty: he got the ability to do it, but it's not a good thing
[09:28] <chillmode> how come i cant find vlc  (videolan)on the Synaptic Package Manager.. I selected every box in "Repositories"
[09:29] <jikuty> afief: indeed.. but, what's wrong with it for just a few hours?
[09:29] <chillmode> can some one help me
[09:29] <jikuty> i dont think he'd destroy his machine all of a sudden
[09:29] <zekery234> chill, try automatix.
[09:29] <radial> Zuu, so just use Synaptic and install everything you want. You'll only be prompted for password once. Not complicated.
[09:29] <afief> i think you can also sudo cat  /dev/zero > /dev/hdb, but who on earth would do that?
[09:29] <knurg> how does one boot ubuntu when grub is gone?
[09:29] <botchs> hi, i want to run from the command line ( as root ) the same program i click and run from the KDE menu ( like MPlayer ) but i cant seem to find the right executable. the links are in /opt but cant be run by command line . any idea how i can find the exact program ?
[09:30] <afief> jikuty: nothing is wrong, but for a few hours all you need is sudo -i
[09:30] <Paddy_EIRE> Zuu: this is exactly what your lookin for http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_allow_root_user_to_login_into_GNOME i'd back everything up first
[09:30] <Sakireth> Any program for working with webcams?
[09:30] <Zuu> radial, so you say.. but i know that linux almost never does as you want it to, and not all i want to install is in a fine little package
[09:30] <zekery234> chill, install automatix and install vlc using automatix.
[09:30] <chillmode> zekery234: ok.. idont know what that is but i gues i can google on it
[09:30] <TheGateKeeper> chillmode: you need universe enabled
[09:30] <chillmode> ok i see
[09:30] <zekery234> chill, there's a automatix homepage.
[09:30] <Zuu> wtf are you all on about :S
[09:30] <zekery234> chill, get the automatix, and u can install many software in a breeze.
[09:30] <chillmode> can i install automix from synaptic?
[09:31] <Zuu> backing up shit and all random useless comments
[09:31] <radial> Zuu, when you use sudo from the command line it caches your password so you don't need to enter it again for a long time.  Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[09:31] <Bonez56> i love automatix
[09:31] <chillmode> zekery234: ok thanx the help
[09:31] <afief> Zuu, if you just want to install, use synaptic, it works from a normal user too(but will ask for root password)
[09:31] <eugman> yeese
[09:31] <zekery234> :D erm... chill, there're many gurus here.
[09:31] <nickspoon> difficult to remove if it breaks.
[09:31] <Paddy_EIRE> Zuu: where just trying to help man...no randomness here
[09:31] <Zuu> i have the feeling that 'stubborn' means something bad.. so i guess im happy not knowing that word =)
[09:31] <zekery234> for a simpleton like me, well, i use automatix... :"D
[09:31] <Bonez56> nickspoon, never had it break on me, used it on about 15 systems so far. maybe i've been lucky :)
[09:31] <TheGateKeeper> chillmode: be warned automatrix can break your system
[09:32] <ladydoor> eugman: sweet. ok, i see you talk a lot in your intro about games. you might make a separate section for that
[09:32] <chillmode> hmm ok :D
[09:32] <Zuu> this is no constuctive conversation at all
[09:32] <Paddy_EIRE> Zuu: did you even look at the wiki I gave you
[09:32] <Zuu> havent had time yet. with all these ppl talking shit to me
[09:32] <cbx33> brb
[09:32] <afief> zuu, okay let's make it constructive, tell us what you want to do and we'll tell you the best way to achieve it(and if it needs root accounts so be it)
[09:32] <Zuu> Paddy_EIRE, will do tho
[09:33] <TheGateKeeper> chillmode: this might be a better bet: ----> http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories
[09:33] <eugman> Probably a good idea. Games are usually more of an extra.
[09:33] <ladydoor> eugman: you might make a mention of bitlbee, w3m, emacs, adding links...
[09:33] <eugman> bitlebee?
[09:33] <chillmode> TheGateKeeper: ok thanx
[09:34] <Zuu> afief, if im not answering in future, dont mind it
[09:34] <eugman> Actually I can just see what synaptic says that is
[09:34] <ladydoor> eugman: yeah, it's an im client that is multiprotocol, like gaim, & runs out of an irc client
[09:34] <eugman> ahh
[09:34] <Paddy_EIRE> Zuu: well you'd realise that your question has been answered and were just offering some friendly advise....sudo has good reason for being used :)
[09:34] <TheGateKeeper> chillmode: np :-) that should give you access to everything you want
[09:34] <ladydoor> eugman: you might also mention programs like mocp & pytone for playing music...
[09:34] <eugman> Thought it may have been a bittorrent client
[09:35] <radial> Zuu, using X as root is risky. You're MUCH better off using the package tools to install stuff and you'll only be prompted for a password once. If you want to be risky though, check out the howto Paddy linked.
[09:35] <ladydoor> eugman: nope! but bittornado's a good one. you might go into more detail on gnu screen, because it's *so* useful
[09:35] <eugman> Well just put all you can think of at that sorting part at the end and I'll take care of them.
[09:35] <TheGateKeeper> chillmode: probable find this usefull too: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[09:35] <BiSk-8> helllo, i would like to know what the name of the program is to download entire websites?
[09:35] <boink> curl ?
[09:35] <ladydoor> eugman: oh! i can edit it?
[09:35] <fredl> anybody happen to know how you can make xchat filter out join/parts ?
[09:35] <Zuu> radial, i have one thing to say to that.. yadda yadda yadda
[09:35] <ladydoor> eugman: i thought you wanted me to do this through you
[09:35] <eugman> Anyone can it's a wiki.
[09:35] <eugman> no no. Edit away.
[09:35] <Zuu> damn some of you are annoying
[09:35] <radial> Zuu, you needn't have said it then :-)
[09:35] <afief> okay guys i need some attention here, since i by mistake created too small a partition to serve my root filesystem i need to repartition, but could someone tell me how to backup my root?
[09:36] <bruenig> fredl, you probably have a better shot in #xchat
[09:36] <ladydoor> eugman: how do i log in? i don't have a launchpad email
[09:36] <fredl> afief - huh you can't just growfs?
[09:36] <BiSk-8> hello, i would like to know what the name of the program is to download entire websites? possibily a simple one to use?
[09:36] <bruenig> !backup
[09:36] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[09:36] <fredl> bruenig, good point.
[09:36] <Sakireth> Any program for working with webcams?
[09:36] <BiSk-8> sakireth: gqcam
[09:36] <eugman> Ladydoor, you don't need a launchpad email. Just an account. You do have a regular email right?
[09:37] <fredl> Sakireth, ekiga
[09:37] <ladydoor> eugman: sure enough
[09:37] <Zuu> Paddy_EIRE, ok i have read some of that page, i dont fully understan dit tho
[09:37] <BiSk-8> hello, i would like to know what the name of the program is to download entire websites? possibily a simple one to use?
[09:37] <recon0> Has anybody here gotten opentrek to work?
[09:37] <bruenig> BiSk-8, I think there is a firefox extension that will allow you to do that. I don't know what it is called nor have I ever used it
[09:37] <boink> curl
[09:37] <Zuu> Paddy_EIRE, but it seems like im not gonna have a 'root' user by doing that
[09:37] <boink> if curl is what you want
[09:37] <Paddy_EIRE> Zuu: which part you need help with
[09:37] <jrib> BiSk-8: consider httrack as well
[09:37] <BiSk-8> i once had one that was very good, bruenig, but i dont remember it
[09:37] <Paddy_EIRE> Zuu: you will it works...
[09:38] <Zuu> Paddy_EIRE, what i want is a user named 'root' with a different pass and everything
[09:38] <eugman> All you have to do is make a launchpad account. There should be a link somewhere on the site.
[09:38] <BiSk-8> it was httrack
[09:38] <BiSk-8> ty
[09:38] <Zuu> like im used to
[09:38] <Paddy_EIRE> Zuu: root will have a different pass
[09:38] <Caplain> is an amd x86 or i686?
[09:38] <nicnac> having an issue with ubuntu, when I try to build apache with the make command, it gives me the error "bash: make: command not found" anyone know how to fix or get the correct package for the make command?
[09:39] <Paddy_EIRE> Zuu: 1 sec, I think I know of a much more descriptive guide
[09:39] <boink> apt-get install make
[09:39] <afief> fredl: i don't know, tell me how
[09:39] <codecaine> hi how can you replace a word in a text file
[09:39] <Sakireth> Thanks.
[09:39] <erUSUL> !b-e > nicnac
[09:39] <jrib> nicnac: install build-essential, it will give you all the basic dev stuff
[09:39] <eugman> boink, can you do that? I hought you installed build-essential
[09:39] <codecaine> like if they have alot of words that say windows I want to replace them all with linux
[09:39] <ladydoor> eugman: sweet. i'll contribute as soon as i've got an account then
[09:39] <boink> ok
[09:39] <ladydoor> boink: actually, it's sudo aptitude install build-essential
[09:39] <nicnac> that worked. thank you
[09:39] <Diguinho> hi. I have files with iso-8859-1 chars. at the file name, coming from debian unstable where I used iso-8859-1. How do I get these files shown correct, with accents and etc. on gnome, terminal or even the console?
[09:40] <erUSUL> codecaine: sed -e 's/oldword/newword/' file.txt iirc
[09:40] <Paddy_EIRE> Zuu: there are many more things on that page related to creating a root user that can login graphically
[09:40] <boink> build-essential will install most of the stuff, that's handy
[09:40] <Renan_s2> !info nicotine
[09:40] <ubotu> nicotine: graphical client for the SoulSeek peer-to-peer system. In component universe, is optional.  Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:40] <eugman> Ladydoor, how old are you? The only people I know who use that interjection are usually young.
[09:40] <jrib> codecaine: note that that command won't actually edit the file though (use -i or redirect the output to a file)
[09:41] <tuxtux> ciao a tutti
[09:41] <ladydoor> eugman: what interjection?
[09:41] <Zuu> Paddy_EIRE, lemme ask you something, suse does have a regular shell thingie right ?
[09:41] <eugman> Sweet.
[09:41] <ladydoor> eugman: aha. i'm young at heart
[09:41] <boink> what's a regular shell thingy?
[09:41] <Zuu> like you can boot ubuntu without even have to get to a gui
[09:41] <eugman> ah ok. I'm still young at body at this point.
[09:41] <jrib> boink: what do you mean??
[09:41] <boink> from Zuu's question
[09:42] <jrib> boink: oh :)
[09:42] <Zuu> hehe
[09:42] <Paddy_EIRE> Zuu: not really a suse user..but if your talking about a root terminal then yes, as does ubuntu
[09:42] <kalif> Zuu: if it can't boot into text mode it isn't linux
[09:42] <Paddy_EIRE> *agrees
[09:42] <Zuu> Paddy_EIRE, i dont really understand your answer :/
[09:42] <ladydoor> kalif: are you trying to boot to text?
[09:42] <b1_xt> how can i fix the sound playback?
[09:43] <kalif> no
[09:43] <fredl> aaaaah that makes my xchat a whole lot quiter.
[09:43] <Paddy_EIRE> k, let me get that link I have a vague idea of what you want
[09:43] <Zuu> please dont mix suse into this its confusing me
[09:43] <Zuu> hehe
[09:43] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[09:43] <Zuu> what i mean is ike runlevel 3
[09:43] <Zuu> *like
[09:44] <eyequeue> Zuu, runlevel is orrelevant in ubuntu
[09:44] <eyequeue> Zuu, 1 is default, but 2 3 4 5 all identical
[09:44] <eyequeue> Zuu, 2 is default, but 2 3 4 5 all identical
[09:44] <eyequeue> Zuu, 1 is not
[09:44] <Zuu> what ?!
[09:44] <boink> doesn't ubuntu want to change the run level stuff?
[09:44] <recon0> Does anybody know of a COBOL intperpreter/compiler for linux?
[09:44] <eyequeue> boink, no way
[09:44] <Zuu> crist this is strange
[09:45] <fredl> whats wrong with 'the runlevel stuff' ??
[09:45] <boink> I read some article about ubuntu wanting to change it
[09:45] <eyequeue> boink, why make itself incompatible with debian?
[09:45] <boink> making something like mac
[09:45] <fredl> let's make a redhat wrapper around it LOL
[09:45] <eyequeue> fredl, some how come from rpm distros don't like debian's way i guess
[09:45] <bsdfox> how easy is it to install ubuntu on a portable usb hard drive (2.5") that will boot? I've done it in knoppix before
[09:45] <Zuu> well i should have known all this before installing ubuntu :(
[09:45] <jang_> can anybody tell me how to change the paper settings (in Ubuntu 6.06) an my network printer (connected to a Kubuntu 6.06 using cups)? on the client, all settings are gray, but it uses the wrong settings.
[09:45] <eyequeue> Zuu, it is debian-based
[09:45] <Zuu> its totally destroying my lunix experience
[09:46] <eyequeue> Zuu, i would say the rpm distros did that :/
[09:46] <kalif> Zuu: Loohniks,  not lunix :)
[09:46] <Paddy_EIRE> Zuu: read this http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/users_in_ubuntu
[09:46] <Zuu> kalif, i like that :P
[09:46] <fredl> eyequeue, I know. LOL, I once had to interview a guy together with my manager. The guy claimed to know everything about Unix/Linux, so we asked him how he'd turn off the telnet daemon on the command line....
[09:46] <Diguinho> anybody know how to display iso-8859-1 file names correctly?
[09:46] <Zuu> kalif, actually that how i _do_ pronounce it
[09:46] <Zuu> you are just way better that writing it :P
[09:46] <Lehti> :o
[09:46] <kalif> hehe
[09:46] <eyequeue> fredl, added that extra dir in the command? ;-)
[09:46] <ProN00b> how can i find out currently used refresh modes ?
[09:47] <fredl> guy said it couldn't be done since you can't start up the runlevel editor in graphics mode!
[09:47] <eyequeue> fredl, what/??????????????????
[09:47] <fredl> eyequeue, haha, my manager stood up, shook his hand and said "next please"
[09:47] <eyequeue> fredl, and whatever would a runlevel editor have to do with it anyway, if it's running, it's already running, lol
[09:47] <Zuu> and now with ubuntu it seems that there has the be a lot more 'o' s in looooooohniks
[09:47] <knurg> Boot problem; MBR was deleted and Grub is gone. How do I boot my ubuntu? Could i use install-cd with F6 and some parameters to boot the kernel on hdd?
[09:48] <fredl> eyequeue, no sense slapping the newbies around too much, but a guy who claimed to know all about it on his resume, LOL
[09:48] <eyequeue> fredl, yeah, i'm not paying for a liar, that would be my reaction
[09:48] <Paddy_EIRE> Zuu: also this will allow you to set the root user password if you havent done that already "sudo passwd root"
[09:48] <Lehti> I've tried to install Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory, but I get this error while installing: "This installation doesn't support glibc-2.0 on Linux / unknown" Can somebody help me :)
[09:48] <Zuu> Paddy_EIRE, cool
[09:49] <osten> Hello
[09:49] <eyequeue> Paddy_EIRE, please do NOT advise that in here, send them to the factiod only
[09:49] <Paddy_EIRE> nice one :)
[09:49] <osten> I have a grave problem
[09:49] <fredl> eyequeue, you'd be surprised how many people get away with lying about their resume.
[09:49] <eyequeue> Zuu, bad advice btw, quite bad
[09:49] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[09:49] <ProN00b> can anyone help me with my dual screen setup problems ?
[09:49] <eyequeue> !root
[09:49] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:49] <RedRose> how do I change my hostname in the CLI?
[09:49] <ph8> hostname <hostname>
[09:49] <kalif> hostname newhostname
[09:49] <eyequeue> RedRose, /etc/hostname ?
[09:49] <Paddy_EIRE> eyequeue: it was the inevitable answer...but sry couldnt let him suffer
[09:49] <Zuu> erhm.. how do i even open a shell in ubuntu ?..
[09:49] <codecaine> what wrong with this command
[09:50] <eugman> ph8, it always surprises me in linux when I asked how to do something and the command I want is what I said.
[09:50] <jrib> RedRose: /etc/hostname and update /etc/hosts as well
[09:50] <eyequeue> Paddy_EIRE, if someone wants to be stupid, they can decide that after reading the page though, not on your conscience
[09:50] <codecaine> cat myfile | sed 's:codecaine:linux'
[09:50] <Zuu> haha there is no way to start a shell
[09:50] <ph8> eugman: It has something to do with linux not being windows... :)
[09:50] <Paddy_EIRE> eyequeue: I understand, k
[09:50] <RedRose> I did that, then I reboot and it's back to the olf one
[09:50] <jrib> codecaine: useless use of cat?
[09:50] <eugman> zuu, Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[09:50] <ph8> RedRose: changed /etc/hsotname?
[09:50] <ph8> * hostname
[09:51] <eyequeue> Zuu, this is linux?  and you can't start a shell?
[09:51] <codecaine> I wanted to manipulate the output of the cat
[09:51] <ph8> fgrep your init scripts to see if the hostname's being changed strangely
[09:51] <osten> I got a bizarre keyboard problem
[09:51] <Zuu> eugman, ok they really did hide it well in ubuntu :)
[09:51] <Paddy_EIRE> Zuu: Applications > Accessories > Terminal :)
[09:51] <jrib> codecaine: sed 's:foo:bar:'
[09:51] <eyequeue> eugman, i think it's elsewhere in edgy from dapper btw
[09:51] <jrib> codecaine: notice the terminating :
[09:51] <eugman> Zuu, i went into shortcuts or whatever and now windows key and shift together opens up a terminal. Really handy.
[09:51] <eyequeue> eugman, system > something
[09:51] <osten> left ctrl and numpad return both don't give their own keycodes but spamms random other keycodes on the keyboard
[09:52] <codecaine> ah thanks
[09:52] <daxxar> Im trying to boot a machine over PXE and mount / via NFS. I've gotten the booting and halfways teh mounting to work. (I've followed parts of http://blog.katipo.co.nz/?p=19)
[09:52] <eugman> eyequeue, thanks for the heads up.
[09:52] <daxxar> The problem is that the machine can't change *any* files on /
[09:52] <oculto_> hi
[09:52] <eugman> hi
[09:52] <daxxar> Just gives a 'permission denied', though the nfs-export it's using is exported using (rw)-option.
[09:52] <Zuu> eugman, yeah.. ill eventually get there at some point too.. i just never have used ubuntu ever before.. pretty strange to me
[09:52] <eyequeue> osten, in edgy?  mod5    in dapper, ctrl though
[09:52] <oculto_> I have a question
[09:52] <daxxar> Anyone have any suggestions?
[09:52] <osten> even if I just tap left ctrl fast it has time to spam like 34 random keys like "home" "delete" "Q" etc
[09:52] <kalif> daxxar: is your nfs-setup correct?
[09:52] <daxxar> kalif, I don't know, but I hope so. :P
[09:53] <osten> what is edgy?
[09:53] <hexxa_> Hello i need help to install my webcam
[09:53] <eyequeue> osten, this is the dapper channel, #ubuntu+1 for edgy
[09:53] <codecaine> another question say theres alot of files that have codecaine in it with words attached to it how can I make it so it just grab the words that have codecaine not editing theones that have letters attached to it
[09:53] <oculto_> kalif, u A tem som de U?
[09:53] <eyequeue> !edgy
[09:53] <hexxa_> Logitech QuickCam Sphere
[09:53] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[09:53] <daxxar> kalif, this is my line: /var/media-root <IP_ADDRESS>(rw,sync)
[09:53] <Paddy_EIRE> !edgy
[09:53] <kalif> what's in /etc/exports
[09:53] <Hirsty> greetings...
[09:53] <eugman> Zuu, it didn't take me to long to get comforatable with it despite never using linux before. The hard part is getting the propietary stuff set up.
[09:53] <chillmode> (/j irssi
[09:53] <chillmode> oj :D
[09:53] <kalif> daxxar: looks ok
[09:53] <chillmode> oops* :D
[09:53] <osten> I have 6.06 LTS
[09:54] <Hirsty> does anyone know how to get lexmark printers working in dapper?
[09:54] <oculto_> osten levado na bunda
[09:54] <kalif> oculto_: jeg fatter intet
[09:54] <Hirsty> (in english)
[09:54] <eugman> Hirsty, I do not. Have you seached the forums?
[09:54] <jrib> codecaine: you need to read a regex tutorial, I think \bfoo\b will work \b is for word boundary
[09:54] <Paddy_EIRE> Zuu: this page is worth a read aswell https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[09:54] <Zuu> eugman, wel the thing is that im used to suse
[09:54] <osten> oculto_: I didn't understand that :)
[09:54] <Hirsty> for a while, yes...
[09:54] <eyequeue> !es > oculto_
[09:54] <codecaine> where can I find this regex tutorial
[09:54] <Utopiate> Anyone know how to make GAIM auto nick serv identify on connect?
[09:54] <Hirsty> nevermind, I'll just get a new one
[09:55] <Zuu> eugman, so i have all these other ways that i thought all linuxes some what had in common
[09:55] <Hirsty> It'son the blink anywho's
[09:55] <kalif> daxxar: can't you test NFS from another machine?
[09:55] <Zuu> and now that is totally ruined :(
[09:55] <eugman> Zuu so what is your reason for switching?
[09:55] <eyequeue> Utopiate, it's not really an irc client, for decent features use xchat or irssi or such
[09:55] <osten> eyequeue: I'm using ubuntu 6.06 LTS, is that edgy?
[09:55] <boink> that's dapper
[09:55] <eyequeue> Utopiate, can it /msg on connect though?
[09:55] <daxxar> kalif, i'll try
[09:55] <boink> dapper is the latest stable release
[09:55] <ladydoor> osten: that's dapper
[09:55] <Zuu> eugman, because everyone told me that ubuntu is better than everything
[09:55] <eyequeue> osten, no, that one is safe :)  dapper
[09:55] <eugman> Osten, edgy is the next version which is in devlopment.
[09:56] <boink> !dapper
[09:56] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"
[09:56] <jrib> codecaine: google, I don't know of any off the top of my head.  There is always 'man 7 regex'
[09:56] <Zuu> bunch of crapheads
[09:56] <Zuu> hehe
[09:56] <Zuu> they never tryed anything else i think
[09:56] <Zuu> :)
[09:56] <eyequeue> !language
[09:56] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:56] <eyequeue> Zuu, ^
[09:56] <Zuu> eyequeue, sry
[09:56] <eugman> Zuu, Well it certainly does a good job of impressing someone new to all this.
[09:56] <eyequeue> Zuu, and please turn on your msg, support in here uses the bot heavily
[09:57] <Zuu> uhm
[09:57] <Zuu> how many bots are there ?
[09:57] <osten> Hehe, so any idea why my left ctrl and numpad enter are so weird?
[09:57] <eyequeue> ubotu and Ubugtu and perhaps one other i can't recall
[09:57] <ubotu> and: Auto Nice Daemon. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.2.1-2 (dapper), package size 23 kB, installed size 124 kB
[09:58] <eyequeue> ubotu, hush! lol
[09:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hush! lol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:58] <Zuu> well.. ubotu wil get whitelisted
[09:58] <Zuu> if it doesnt behave worse than i :P
[09:58] <eyequeue> Zuu, in this cannel, Ubugtu is not used much, but in the other #ubuntu-* channels more
[09:59] <Zuu> ok.. ubotu should be able to get my attention now :)
[09:59] <Ishmael> Hi, I have two questions regarding fstab: very strange thing happend today that the name of my win-partition changed, just by magic. I haven't touch fstab at all, just did defragmentation in windows. Beside that, usual linux partition check occured (30th boot)
[10:00] <osten> when I press either left_ctrl or numpad_enter they spam 100 other random keycodes
[10:00] <po8freak> does anyone here know what package contains the zlib libraries? * configure: error:
[10:00] <po8freak>  * NOTE: The zlib compression library version 1.1.4 or greater was not found
[10:00] <po8freak>  * on your system
[10:01] <Ishmael> Name of the win-partition was '/media/hda1', and now some strange character:
[10:01] <krazykit> po8freak: are you compiling something?
[10:02] <eyequeue> po8freak, ii  zlib1g         1.2.3-6ubuntu4 compression library - runtime
[10:02] <lupine_85> "configure" suggests so
[10:02] <lupine_85> !zlib1g-dev
[10:02] <Ishmael> Does anyone know why? And, beside that, how to remove icon of that partition from desktop, and leave it just in 'Places'
[10:02] <po8freak> yeah Apollon
[10:02] <ubotu> zlib1g-dev: compression library - development. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.2.3-6ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 395 kB, installed size 576 kB
[10:02] <eyequeue> po8freak, zlib1g-dev then
[10:02] <krazykit> lupine_85: quiet you.
[10:02] <kalif> !apt-file
[10:02] <ubotu> apt-file is a program that can tell you in which package you can find the files you look for. sudo apt-get install apt-file && sudo apt-file update
[10:02] <quiet> ?
[10:02] <lupine_85> mwahaha
[10:02] <quiet> oh
[10:02] <Caplain> how often is the kernel updated?
[10:02] <lupine_85> my ubotu-fu is great today
[10:02] <tesoro> :)
[10:02] <eyequeue> Caplain, when security holes are plugged
[10:02] <Zuu> Paddy_EIRE, thanks :)
[10:02] <krazykit> lupine_85: is that like kung-fu?
[10:03] <lupine_85> 2.6.18 has been released, me hearties
[10:03] <lupine_85> but not for Ubuntu :)
[10:03] <Zuu> for all your help ;)
[10:03] <eyequeue> Caplain, twice a day, once a decade, lol
[10:03] <krazykit> lupine_85: as have con kolivas's excellent patchset
[10:03] <ph8> has anyone here ever patched the kernel with grsec?
[10:03] <Paddy_EIRE> Zuu: no probs...you should really read this it might be very useful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[10:03] <Caplain> ahhh cause it seems too frequent
[10:03] <ph8> i'm not a sudo advocate tbh
[10:03] <Paddy_EIRE> Zuu: Good luck :)
[10:03] <ph8> it's good for users who don't know what's going on
[10:03] <eyequeue> Caplain, too many holes discovered :(
[10:03] <ph8> i tend to sudo su - and set a root password first thing :)
[10:03] <lupine_85> the ABI updates are annoying
[10:03] <daxxar> If I want a nice 'automatically started' UI, what should I look at? (I don't need a big feature-full WM, just something simple, and I need a displaymanager that autostarts it, and something that does *not* require a login)
[10:04] <lupine_85> xubuntu? :)
[10:04] <Zuu> Paddy_EIRE, hehe i have that page open like 8 times by now
[10:04] <eyequeue> ph8, very very frowned upon in here, thanks
[10:04] <Paddy_EIRE> Zuu: lol...no probs
[10:04] <Caplain> eyequeue: well every time i use a new kernel i have to recompile the modules for vmware...and its annoying
[10:04] <Caplain> oh and i ahve to edit the grub menu file too
[10:04] <daxxar> lupine_85, was that for me?
[10:04] <krazykit> daxxar: xfce, part of xubuntu-desktop is full featured yet light.  other light choices include fluxbox and windowmaker
[10:04] <lupine_85> daxxar: yes
[10:04] <Pup> hi, im thinking about trying to set up this MythTV thing on an ubuntu box.  It says I should use XFS since it creates such large files, but my whole hard disk is EXT3 right now.  Can I shrink the EXT3 partition somehow and change some of it to XFS, or would I have to reformat the whole drive?
[10:04] <lupine_85> fvwm is also quite good
[10:04] <eyequeue> daxxar, ubuntu will, just configure an autologin user
[10:04] <daxxar> lupine_85, I already have an ubuntu system up and running
[10:04] <krazykit> Caplain: grub can automagically do it if you use make-kpkg
[10:04] <ph8> eyequeue: Does Ubuntu document that out of interest? I was speaking to people today who had no idea why they couldn't su when they installed ubuntu
[10:05] <eyequeue> Caplain, gotcha
[10:05] <lupine_85> daxxar: then install xubuntu-desktop
[10:05] <Ishmael> None knows? None to help?
[10:05] <eyequeue> !rootsudo > ph8
[10:05] <eugman> !patience
[10:05] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:05] <eyequeue> ph8, there
[10:05] <ph8> ty
[10:05] <ph8> Ishmael: what did it change from/to?
[10:05] <daxxar> lupine_85, I don't need any desktop-tools except the x and the wm as of yet. It's going to be a pure "media center", so stuff like abiword etc is a bit bloat.
[10:05] <eyequeue> ph8, it's also what we send to those who ask :)
[10:05] <lupine_85> forgot what it is, though!
[10:05] <ph8> lupine_85: shh, it's naughty to talk about it!
[10:05] <ph8> :)
[10:06] <eyequeue> ph8, if they want to break their box after reading, we dind't advise it :)
[10:06] <zekery234> anyone gain spiritual insight while using ubuntu? :P
[10:06] <Ishmael> ph8: The name of win-partition, from 'media/hda1' to ''
[10:06] <lupine_85> daxxar: then just install xfce
[10:06] <ph8> every day zekery234
[10:06] <zekery234> keke... :D
[10:06] <eyequeue> zekery234, apt-get install sword, they say
[10:06] <kalif> lupine_85: boot into single user mode with a defunkt /home, sudo wont work :)
[10:06] <eyequeue> !info sword
[10:06] <lupine_85> it'll pull in some unwanted deps automagically, but you can remove them
[10:06] <ubotu> Package sword does not exist in any distro I know
[10:07] <ph8> Ishmael: pastebin the output of 'mount' when it's mounted?
[10:07] <lupine_85> change the hostname, sudo doesn't work
[10:07] <eyequeue> !info ksword
[10:07] <ubotu> Package ksword does not exist in any distro I know
[10:07] <lupine_85> mess up the system clock, sudo doesn't work
[10:07] <zekery234> eyequeue... whats 'sword'?
[10:07] <teenprogrammer> hi
[10:07] <lupine_85> break the permissions, it doesn't work
[10:07] <Paddy_EIRE> zekery234: i have found levels of patients that i never knew I had,
[10:07] <lupine_85> etc...
[10:07] <lupine_85> zekery234: bible program :(
[10:07] <krazykit> zekery234: seems to be a bible study thing
[10:07] <Chousuke> lupine_85: The question: Why would you mess with those things+
[10:07] <ph8> lol lupine
[10:07] <eyequeue> zekery234, something that christian ubuntu has in it, i think it's a bible app
[10:07] <zekery234> oh.
[10:07] <ph8> Chousuke: no one necessarily sets out to do these things... :)
[10:08] <ph8> What's different in ChUbuntu?
[10:08] <lupine_85> Go with the true linux spirit - why do you think we have configuration 'druids'? ;)
[10:08] <kalif> lupine_85: have someone stupid with sudo rights edit /etc/sudoers directly....
[10:08] <ph8> Choo-bunutu even
[10:08] <Chousuke> ph8: They don't break by themselves. :)
[10:08] <maurodafnis> Is there a way to run KDE under the root account ?
[10:08] <Ishmael> ph8: I am not sure that I know how to do that.
[10:08] <ph8> Ishmael: Go to a command prompt and type 'mount'
[10:08] <krazykit> maurodafnis: bad idea.  don't do that.
[10:08] <zekery234> ic... erm.. i am more towards eastern religion... buddhism and taoism those thing....
[10:08] <ph8> then goto a pastebin like pastebin.com
[10:08] <ph8> and copy/paste the output into there
[10:08] <ph8> !pastebin
[10:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:08] <eyequeue> maurodafnis, you do not want to do that, it's VERY not safe code for that
[10:08] <lupine_85> see, the sort of root abuse maurodafnis is asking about is a bad idea
[10:08] <teenprogrammer> I had a question
[10:08] <ph8> that one ^
[10:08] <eyequeue> !root > maurodafnis
[10:08] <maurodafnis> I can't deny it's a bad idea but it will save me many hours ^^
[10:08] <ph8> !fakeroot
[10:08] <ubotu> fakeroot: Gives a fake root environment. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.6ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 91 kB, installed size 376 kB
[10:09] <lupine_85> having a root password is positively safe ;)
[10:09] <ph8> that might help you maurodafnis ^
[10:09] <^Ocean^> god dam, what kinda video card to i need to run compiz ?
[10:09] <ph8> i'll tunnel it next time
[10:09] <Paddy_EIRE> eyequeue: it seems ppl are eager to wreck there install
[10:09] <Ishmael> ph8: Here it is: /dev/hda2 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[10:09] <Ishmael> proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[10:09] <Ishmael> varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw)
[10:09] <Ishmael> varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw)
[10:09] <Ishmael> procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[10:09] <ph8> ^Ocean^: A good, well supported one methinks
[10:09] <maurodafnis> hmmm it wont help me either
[10:09] <Ishmael> udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw)
[10:09] <Ishmael> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[10:09] <Ishmael> devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[10:09] <lupine_85> maurodafnis: more likely, you just want to use konqueror to do file operations as root...
[10:09] <ph8> !pasting > Ishmael
[10:09] <Ishmael> lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/volatile type tmpfs (rw)
[10:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pasting - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:09] <Ishmael> binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)
[10:09] <lupine_85> ...so do so
[10:09] <Ishmael> /dev/hda1 on /media/hda1 type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[10:09] <ph8> screw you then ubotu :)
[10:09] <eyequeue> Paddy_EIRE, yeah, scary huh, something as huge as kde
[10:09] <maurodafnis> more likely not
[10:09] <lupine_85> !pastebin
[10:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel.  I am really trying!
[10:10] <lupine_85> IIRC KDE defaults to not allowing root log in
[10:10] <Ishmael> ph8: Yes it is
[10:10] <ph8> the question therefore is, where are you seeing the name represented as <square thing>?
[10:10] <eyequeue> maurodafnis, why would you want such a thing?  READ what the bot sent you btw
[10:10] <krazykit> ^Ocean^: then buy an nvidia card
[10:10] <eyequeue> !root > maurodafnis
[10:10] <Paddy_EIRE> eyequeue: ppl coming from rpm based distros aint keen on debian or sudo for that matter I dont get it
[10:10] <^Ocean^> krazykit, I plan on it :D
[10:10] <maurodafnis> damn ...
[10:10] <teenprogrammer> I have a PC with Windows and Linux, both on seperate HDD. My Windows can run COD2 ( 3D game ) yet linux breaks when i launch the Screensaver O_O
[10:10] <^Ocean^> I got a Geforece2 right now, but it just wont do it lol...
[10:10] <lupine_85> you "can" change it, in some obscure configuration file somewhere, but I don't remember the excact details
[10:10] <Chousuke> IMO doing anything as root is stupid, but sometimes it's unavoidable. :D
[10:10] <maurodafnis> what the bot sent me will not solve my problem :/
[10:11] <lupine_85> then explain the problem...
[10:11] <krazykit> teenprogrammer: you likely don't have the proprietary video drivers.
[10:11] <ph8> teenprogrammer: Sounds like you haven't set your 3dcard up properly
[10:11] <eyequeue> maurodafnis, you didnot read the url apparently then, goodbye!
[10:11] <lupine_85> what on earth are you trying to do?
[10:11] <Chousuke> maurodafnis: What is your problem?
[10:11] <teenprogrammer> oh, well. this is like my first time REally using linux
[10:11] <daxxar> Anyone know of a simple menu-generation framework or program? I basically just need a fullscreen program with menus that can be operated using lirc and / or a keyboard. The menus should do simple things like browse files and launch programs.
[10:11] <teenprogrammer> other than for a server
[10:11] <teenprogrammer> so . . . XD
[10:11] <eyequeue> lupine_85, something the !root page won't tell him?  lol, yeah right
[10:11] <ph8> teenprogrammer: Hop into a command prompt and apt-cache search nvidia
[10:11] <maurodafnis> ...
[10:11] <ladydoor> lupine_85: quotes are not a means of providing emphasis. sorry to be the grammar queen, but there you go.
[10:11] <ph8> and a search of the wiki for the same (nvidia) should turn up some useful results!
[10:11] <maurodafnis> this is quite amusing
[10:11] <eyequeue> Chousuke, he wants to autologin as root
[10:11] <ph8> assuming you have an nvidia card..
[10:11] <ph8> getting confused :p
[10:11] <Ishmael> ph8: Can I do something to give you enough info?
[10:11] <MooseMorals> So why *is* running as root bad? (And please don't just say 'security')
[10:12] <Chousuke> MooseMorals: Security :P
[10:12] <maurodafnis> everything you have said so far is irrelevant to the question I asked in the beginning
[10:12] <ph8> That's the reason!
[10:12] <lupine_85> ladydoor: indeed. they're a means of providing quotes
[10:12] <eyequeue> !root > MooseMorals
[10:12] <^Ocean^> MooseMorals, because you can accidently trash ur system
[10:12] <ph8> That's a good enough reason not to run things as root
[10:12] <kalif> daxxar: a full WM or just something to generate menues?
[10:12] <maurodafnis> I know running KDE as root is stupid
[10:12] <maurodafnis> I know that for security reasong you never do that
[10:12] <Paddy_EIRE> then why
[10:12] <marcin_ant> hi guys
[10:12] <eyequeue> ^Ocean^, worse, your box can attack OURS :(
[10:12] <ph8> that's why Microsoft Vista has finally started having 'limited' accounts everywhere and asking especially to do administrator functions (remind anyone of ubuntu?) - they've just figured out administrators everywhere is a bad idea
[10:12] <ph8> in linux, there's only one administrator -> root
[10:12] <krazykit> MooseMorals: bad code, danger of rm'ing your system, etc
[10:12] <teenprogrammer> I downloaded some Drivers, i think they may help. but they are .run files and i have no clue what the heck that means O_O
[10:12] <marcin_ant> I would like to ask if is there some kind of web based administration panel for ubuntu?
[10:12] <daxxar> kalif, not menus like "office -> abiword" etc, but more like "audio" "video" "images", etc. Not a WM, but a program that'll display a certain list of choices and perhaps a background-image & logo and such.
[10:12] <pettern> my controller changed adress from /dev/sda to /dev/sdc any way to change in ubuntu so i dont have to reinstall
[10:13] <lupine_85> maurodafnis: I answered the question ^up there^, but if you want to have a better solution, explain your issue
[10:13] <Chousuke> You do not run as root. If you need to run as root, then you need to consider whether doing what you're about to do is necessary. Only then do you use root
[10:13] <ph8> marcin_ant: Administration of what particular aspect?
[10:13] <MooseMorals> but that assumes that I'm an idiot, and I'm not
[10:13] <ladydoor> maurodafnis: if you want to run as root in a graphikal environment, you should log in as a regular user, open a terminal, set the root password, su to root, and keep root *in a terminal* where it belongs
[10:13] <krazykit> teenprogrammer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:13] <kalif> daxxar: hmmm
[10:13] <^Ocean^> teenprogrammer, chmod 777 file.run  ./run
[10:13] <jmartini> ph8: technically that uid=0 not root
[10:13] <habeeb> Greetings, can you propose me a partition scheme for 80gb disk. Which will include /usr, /, /home, /bin ? :/
[10:13] <maurodafnis> ...
[10:13] <ph8> teenprogrammer: generally: chmod +x file.run && ./file.run
[10:13] <eyequeue> marcin_ant, i know webadmin is dropped, i think such is highly deprecated these days
[10:13] <habeeb> I'm kinda confused.
[10:13] <maurodafnis> Yes i can but I dont want to do that for the last time please ...
[10:13] <jrib> MooseMorals: it's not really bad, it's fine if you know what you are doing.  I think sudo is better though since you can setup up different levels of access to admin stuff using it.  It also tends to make sure you don't just login as root and forget about it
[10:13] <maurodafnis> I want KDE to run under root
[10:13] <marcin_ant> ph8: well for various aspect - something simmilar to webmin
[10:13] <eyequeue> ladydoor, why not sudo -i instead?
[10:13] <ph8> MooseMorals: Security vulns that you don't know about
[10:13] <Chousuke> maurodafnis: We're not going to give you a gun to shoot yourself with.
[10:13] <teenprogrammer> Thank you
[10:13] <ph8> say in KDE
[10:14] <ph8> if you're foolish enough to run it as root
[10:14] <Chousuke> maurodafnis: get it yourself.
[10:14] <caras> timisoara
[10:14] <ladydoor> eyequeue: um...because i like su better?
[10:14] <ph8> if someone exploits it on your system they've got root access instead of just al ocal user
[10:14] <marcin_ant> ph8: web based admin panel for servers etc.
[10:14] <eyequeue> maurodafnis, you are not going to get handheld help to subvert ubuntu security in #ubuntu
[10:14] <MooseMorals> ph8: but there a vurabilites that will promote a local account to a root accont
[10:14] <ph8> marcin_ant: I've used webmin before, it's free - not sure if ubuntu packages it
[10:14] <maurodafnis> ...
[10:14] <lupine_85>  maurodafnis: read up
[10:14] <lupine_85> as in, ^ up there ^
[10:14] <lupine_85> I CBA researching the exact config file for you though
[10:14] <ph8> there are RPMs etc you can convert though
[10:14] <Zuu> does ubuntu have some kind of control panel ?
[10:14] <ph8> it's quite good
[10:14] <maurodafnis> I only have 1 question then
[10:14] <ph8> there are various pay ones like Cpanel
[10:14] <lupine_85> ph8: they dropped it
[10:14] <lupine_85> !webmin
[10:14] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[10:14] <ph8> oh
[10:14] <ph8> :s
[10:14] <eyequeue> ladydoor, but you know ubuntu policy about sudo i'm sure
[10:14] <ph8> what happened there?
[10:14] <lupine_85> I mean... what?
[10:14] <Ishmael> ph8: Sorry, I can wait patiently, and I know you are busy, but do you know the cure for my problem?
[10:15] <lupine_85> since when did a distribution tell you not to use a particular piece of software?!
[10:15] <ph8> MooseMorals: Yes but why increase your exposure for no identifiable advantage?
[10:15] <ladydoor> eyequeue: of course. however, if someone is dead set on su'ing to root...i fail to see the problem. personally, i use both
[10:15] <kalif> Ishmael: your paste got lost
[10:15] <magnet> Ishmael: for cures, see #hospital :)
[10:15] <eyequeue> ladydoor, i meant for him, not you btw, heh  anyone can do what they like on their own machine, heheh
[10:15] <noriega> hey!
[10:15] <kalif> use pastebin
[10:15] <MooseMorals> jrib, thanks for an non-knee jerk response
[10:15] <ph8> i asked a followup question Ishmael
[10:15] <marcin_ant> ph8: it doesn't and this is why I ask here if is there some alternative or is ther any particular reason why this software is dropped/unpackaged?
[10:15] <ladydoor> eyequeue: aha
[10:15] <maurodafnis> Why can't you simply answer my first question ? I know the alternatives, i know the security problems , but your solutions justdoesnt suit me
[10:15] <ph8> Ishmael: the question therefore is, where are you seeing the name represented as <square thing>?
[10:15] <Chousuke> lupine_85: it can make recommendations.
[10:15] <maurodafnis> i didnt ask for an alternative
[10:15] <ladydoor> eyequeue: the thing is this person is asking about logging in as root, right?
[10:15] <Ishmael> Yes
[10:15] <magnet> maurodafnis: what's your question?
[10:15] <Chousuke> maurodafnis: So you can not come here when you break your system
[10:15] <maurodafnis> i asked whether it can be done like other distros
[10:15] <ph8> marcin_ant: If you want it you could *rebellious suggestion* install it from source
[10:16] <ph8> or convert the RPMs to .debs
[10:16] <kalif> maurodafnis: what's your question?
[10:16] <ph8> and install it that way
[10:16] <Ishmael> On the desktop, under the icon
[10:16] <marcin_ant> lupine_85: do you know why webmin is dropped?
[10:16] <maurodafnis> if i break my system or not it is my problem isnt it ?
[10:16] <ph8> or install rpm
[10:16] <ph8> then webmin can auto-update
[10:16] <magnet> maurodafnis: what can be done like in other distros? :)
[10:16] <maurodafnis> my question is : how can i run KDE as root
[10:16] <eyequeue> ladydoor, you, um
[10:16] <ph8> i would find out why it was dropped first, it's probably in the wiki
[10:16] <lupine_85>  MAURODAFNIS: you got the answer to that earlier. The answer is yes. Now go do it
[10:16] <noriega> If I want to move my /home to a partition/disk of its own, could I simply do a cp /home/ /target-disk/ and then mount it with the mount point /home through fstab ?
[10:16] <habeeb> I had some problems with Ubuntu at first and I forced rebooted (with the button in the tower) 5-6 times. Would a fresh format be better?
[10:16] <ladydoor> eyequeue: i um?
[10:16] <ph8> Ishmael: What happens if you unmount it/remount it?
[10:16] <ph8> If the same thing happens It's a problem with the drive label
[10:16] <magnet> maurodafnis: hu; well set a password for root, and there you go; but as I'm sure everyone told you, it's bad
[10:16] <Ishmael> ph8: Wait ... I shall try
[10:16] <maurodafnis> magnet : in other distros you can login and run x-windows as root
[10:16] <ph8> and you need to change it in windows (or can you do it from linux anyone? you must be able to but i don't know how)
[10:16] <don_jr> How do I use chmod to make a folder mine and the files within it executable?
[10:16] <lupine_85> noriega: cp -a and you're there
[10:16] <teenprogrammer> Thanks!!! Its working i believe
[10:16] <mdasilva_> how can i change the location of my repository mirror?
[10:16] <lupine_85> marcin_ant: no idea, sorry
[10:16] <mdasilva_> the CA ones SUCK
[10:16] <maurodafnis> i have already set a password for root
[10:16] <lupine_85> mdasilva_: change ca. to <whatever>.
[10:17] <magnet> maurodafnis: if you don't know how to do it by yourself, you certainly shouldn't
[10:17] <mdasilva_> for the stats
[10:17] <mdasilva_> states
[10:17] <lupine_85> us.
[10:17] <mdasilva_> is it "us" or blank
[10:17] <Chousuke> maurodafnis: Just get this: Running KDE as root is mind-bogglingly stupid. :P
[10:17] <mdasilva_> ok u the man thx
[10:17] <maurodafnis> but it wont allow me to login as root
[10:17] <ph8> don_jr: sudo chown yourusername.yourgroup /path/to/folder && chmod -R +x /path/to/folder/*
[10:17] <teenprogrammer> bye
[10:17] <kalif> maurodafnis: give root a password, and make sure root is allowed to log in thru KDM (you'll have to RTFM here - but it's easy in GDM)
[10:17] <jrib> maurodafnis: google for ubuntu login kde root and click on the first link
[10:17] <ph8> assuming you want public executable
[10:17] <Gizmo_the_Great1> i have set up a shared folder on 'box1' and my windows xp laptop can see and access the folder. but how do i get my other linux laptop to see the shared folder on box1?
[10:17] <Ishmael> ph8: It went-out, and came-back with the same strange letter
[10:17] <Paddy_EIRE> maurodafnis : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[10:17] <pettern> my controller changed adress from /dev/sda to /dev/sdc any way to change in ubuntu so i dont have to reinstall?
[10:17] <maurodafnis> for the 1000th time I dont care if its stupid . i dont plan on using it all the time. i just want to check some things
[10:18] <noriega> lupine_85 cp -a, aha, so that it includes hidden files etc?
[10:18] <magnet> maurodafnis: yep well, graphical login must be disabled for root
[10:18] <lupine_85> pettern: just edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and /etc/fstab
[10:18] <mdasilva_> ugh never again
[10:18] <lupine_85> noriega: sort of
[10:18] <klhrevolutionist> Most of the time sound works, ** WARNING **: alsa_setup(): Failed to open pcm device (default): Device or resource busy
[10:18] <ph8> Gizmo_the_Great1: Make sure everything with 'samba' in the name is installed :p and then from nautilus use smb://computer_name
[10:18] <mdasilva_> ca repositories are a joke for some reason
[10:18] <ph8> might be smb:/
[10:18] <Paddy_EIRE> maurodafnis: then read this http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_allow_root_user_to_login_into_GNOME
[10:18] <pettern> lupine_85: and fstab?
[10:18] <don_jr> ph8 how do I find out what group I am in?
[10:18] <Zuu> it must have somewhere.. question is just.. where is it hidden ?!
[10:18] <ph8> don_jr: It's probably the same as your username
[10:18] <mdasilva_> don_jr:  type   group
[10:18] <pettern> lupine_85: is that the only things that i have to change?
[10:18] <ph8> see what mdasilva_ said :)
[10:18] <maurodafnis> at last ... thank you
[10:18] <lupine_85> pettern: yes :)
[10:19] <magnet> maurodafnis: to enable it, have a look at /etc/kdm/ files; I won't say more, you ought to know how to do it by yourself before even thinking running X as root
[10:19] <don_jr> mdasilva_ 'group' doen'st work
[10:19] <klhrevolutionist> Has anybody tried this for sound, http://www.4front-tech.com
[10:19] <kalif> maurodafnis: sorry, I don't know how exactly to enable root-login, but I do know where to look for help
[10:19] <ph8> don_jr: type this: "cat /etc/group | grep don_jr"
[10:19] <maurodafnis> I dont see it that way
[10:19] <ph8> without the quotes, in a command line
[10:19] <Chousuke> How can any OS be secure if users deliberately break things :/
[10:19] <ph8> if it's more than one line, pastebin it and put the link here
[10:19] <|lostbyte|> Help, anyone here have the knoe how of syslinux ?
[10:19] <Chousuke> We might just as well all run spam servers.
[10:19] <mdasilva_> sorry its     groups
[10:20] <mdasilva_> not group
[10:20] <ph8> yes |lostbyte|
[10:20] <lupine_85> Chousuke: we need computing licenses - like driving licenses ;)
[10:20] <Chousuke> Yeah
[10:20] <jrib> maurodafnis: and just to be clear, it is a bad idea...
[10:20] <jaspr> hi, i have a problem running synaptic, the output says error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:20] <lupine_85> But not administered by Canonical
[10:20] <maurodafnis> magnet : i have my reasons. and i dont have to explain to you what my reasons are. you find it stupid and i would probably agree its stupid. but u dont know my reasons so plz stop breaking my ballz ...
[10:20] <lupine_85> ballz?
[10:20] <ph8> jaspr: on dapper?
[10:20] <Paddy_EIRE> lol
[10:20] <Chousuke> maurodafnis: Your reasons are most likely wrong.
[10:20] <Zuu> argh... i simply cant work with this ubuntu thingie.. going back to suse <3
[10:20] <jaspr> yes
[10:20] <ph8> how very strange
[10:20] <maurodafnis> lol
[10:20] <ph8> updated recently?
[10:21] <daxxar> No-one knows of a 'GUI-generator'-type application to create simple GUIs for starting a few set applications (and browse a directory tree for files to pass to these applications)
[10:21] <mdasilva_> is anyone else having errors when updating their package lists?
[10:21] <klhrevolutionist> Can anybody give me some help regarding sound
[10:21] <|lostbyte|> Greate, could you paste me the liner to boot from first boot partiton, i messed up my mbr.
[10:21] <eyequeue> maurodafnis, again, you won't find help breaking ubuntu security in #ubuntu
[10:21] <jaspr> i tried reinstalling libvte4, with apt-get --reinstall but that doesn't work either.
[10:21] <|lostbyte|> ph8, ^^
[10:21] <eyequeue> !attitude
[10:21] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:21] <Gizmo_the_Great1> ph8: thanks. that has worked
[10:21] <magnet> lupine_85: I agree heartfully :); people should just pay $5/mo for remote administration by competent people; but MS/Apple/the micro-computer revolution is based on the belief that people can be their own admins; the mass of zombie PCs and botnets tells otherwise :)
[10:21] <magnet> maurodafnis: then stop asking for help
[10:21] <ph8> |lostbyte|: Something like syslinux /dev/hda1 where hda1 is your first partition
[10:21] <ph8> syslinux --help ftw
[10:21] <lupine_85> plonk++
[10:21] <magnet> maurodafnis: I'm benevolent here, I don't care if you can't run as root :)
[10:21] <maurodafnis> 1st of all i dont want help to break ubuntu security, jesus christ
[10:22] <ph8> Gizmo_the_Great1: np
[10:22] <|lostbyte|> ph8, ok, let me have a look at it. its on my usbstick. brb
[10:22] <maurodafnis> 2nd i asked a specific question and got millions of answers irrelevant to my topic
[10:22] <ph8> maurodafnis: All we want is a good reason
[10:22] <ladydoor> !attitude
[10:22] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:22] <ph8> I don't believe there is one
[10:22] <eyequeue> magnet, all he has to do is read the url the bot gave him repeatedly earlier, too :(  !root factoid
[10:22] <magnet> maurodafnis: just ignore the irrelevant answers then
[10:22] <Chousuke> maurodafnis: That's because you shouldn't even think of running KDE as root :P
[10:22] <jaspr> apt-get says: Reinstallation of libvte4 is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
[10:22] <lupine_85> "shouldn't" is a bit strong
[10:22] <eyequeue> !root
[10:22] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:22] <Chousuke> maurodafnis: your question provoked people to educate you about that. :D
[10:22] <Samuli^> maurodafnis, really, millions? Must've been very easy question :)
[10:22] <Zuu> erhm.. where is the recycle bin to be found ? i just removed some file i needed ?
[10:23] <str4> ??
[10:23] <kalif> maurodafnis: just tell them you're running in a virtual machine, and taht you have a snapshot
[10:23] <ph8> Zuu: bottom left? trash can?
[10:23] <ph8> or bottom right
[10:23] <magnet> eyequeue: hehe
[10:23] <lupine_85> but until we get a reason - which seems to be not forthcoming - it's impossible to judge
[10:23] <kalif> :)
[10:23] <ph8> depending on your setup
[10:23] <eyequeue> Zuu, what does that mean?
[10:23] <jrib> I think maurodafnis understands root is a bad idea and he's gotten his answer, so can we just move on?
[10:23] <maurodafnis> guess the irony of the word "millions"
[10:23] <daxxar> Anyone knows of a gui-generation-program like zenity/kdialog/xdialog/gdialog, just a bit more powerful? (And to provide a persistent interface)
[10:23] <eyequeue> jrattner1, no, he KEEPS asking
[10:23] <eyequeue> jrib, rather
[10:23] <lupine_85> "millions"==2,000,000+
[10:23] <maurodafnis> lol true
[10:23] <Zuu> ph8, there is none on my desktop
[10:23] <Samuli^> maurodafnis, that's not irony, it's exaggeration :)
[10:23] <kalif> daxxar: would you mind switching WM?
[10:23] <ph8> Zuu: I believe there should be
[10:23] <lupine_85> I would call it hyperbole, personally
[10:23] <maurodafnis> exaggeration -> irony
[10:23] <ph8> i know how to get to it through the command line
[10:23] <ph8> but not how to run it as standalone
[10:24] <ph8> is there a link from nautilus?
[10:24] <lupine_85> maurodafnis: you're not american are you?
[10:24] <Zuu> ph8, well i would love to tell you to find it for me then
[10:24] <Zuu> hehe
[10:24] <maurodafnis> mp[e
[10:24] <maurodafnis> nope
[10:24] <Zuu> ther eis none
[10:24] <|lostbyte|> ph8, i have something like.. LABEL hd
[10:24] <|lostbyte|>   menu label ^Boot from first hard disk
[10:24] <|lostbyte|>   localboot 0x80
[10:24] <|lostbyte|>   append -
[10:24] <lupine_85> irony != != != != != != exaggeration
[10:24] <MojoWork> what package can i install to make sure i always get linux-headers-`uname -r`  any time my kernel is upgraded by apt?
[10:24] <ph8> i'm on windows at the moment unfortunately so can't re-enact a lot of these things
[10:24] <ph8> MojoWork: linux-headers iirc
[10:24] <magnet> MojoWork: linux-headers
[10:24] <Zuu> eyequeue, it means that i need to find the recycle bin
[10:24] <maurodafnis> u said it was exaggeration , i said it was ironic
[10:24] <jaspr> anyone have any ideas how to get libvte4 installed? it seems to have a lot of dependencies.
[10:24] <eyequeue> MojoWork, none, just wantch the names of packages upgraded is what i do
[10:24] <maurodafnis> =]
[10:24] <lupine_85> |uu: ~/.Trash
[10:24] <MojoWork> doesn't seem to keep up on point releases
[10:25] <ph8> Zuu: For any given folder the trash path is generally ~/.Trash
[10:25] <eyequeue> Zuu, what is that?
[10:25] <maurodafnis> funny conversation =]
[10:25] <MojoWork> this is for a clueless friend
[10:25] <ph8> jaspr: Can you download the deb seperately
[10:25] <Zuu> lupine_85, ph8, thanks
[10:25] <Samuli^> maurodafnis, I'm just zinging with you. :)
[10:25] <ph8> and use dkpg directly?
[10:25] <magnet> MojoWork: because they don't update the dependance everytime they release new headers; but it will keep up, eventually ;)
[10:25] <ph8> then a bit of -f might come into play
[10:25] <magnet> dependancy*
[10:25] <MojoWork> his kernel just updated from 2.6.15-26 to -27 but it didn't get the cooresponding headers
[10:25] <lupine_85> it's not ironic.
[10:25] <jaspr> ph8: well I haven't tried that yet
[10:25] <lupine_85> http://www.pbfcomics.com/archive/PBF006AD-The_Tree_Of_Irony.jpg is ironic
[10:25] <MojoWork> ah. oh well
[10:25] <MojoWork> thanks
[10:25] <krazykit> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:25] <Ace> i updated the linux kernel and it messed with my ubuntu installation, can someone help to restore please?
[10:26] <ladydoor> MojoWork: you'd install linux-headers-386 or linux-headers-686 or linux-headers-k7 (or whatever)
[10:26] <krazykit> oops
[10:26] <eyequeue> MojoWork, true, though i'd see that when running apt-get here :)
[10:26] <krazykit> oops.
[10:26] <Zuu> whee got my files back :)
[10:26] <codecaine> how can you cat text from a file and copy all the text to the clipboard?
[10:26] <jaspr> I'll try, but I don't understand why apt-get says "it cannot be downloaded" (it is on packages.ubuntu.com)
[10:26] <MojoWork> ladydoor: ah
[10:26] <lupine_85> codecaine: automatically?
[10:26] <Samuli^> maurodafnis, but really. Don't judge free advice. People are kind enough to answer, it's no reason to be nasty because the answer wasn't what you wanted.
[10:26] <krazykit> codecaine: i usually open it in a text editor and highlight it that way
[10:26] <ph8> jaspr: Can you resolve the address of your repository ok etc?
[10:26] <eyequeue> jaspr, which package?
[10:26] <krazykit> lupine_85: pbf is /hilarious/
[10:26] <ladydoor> MojoWork: does that help?
[10:26] <lupine_85> and right
[10:27] <maurodafnis> Samuli^ believe me i appreciate it
[10:27] <dunkel> EasyTAG 1.99.11 - How do I edit the genre field of 2367 files recursively to add "library_item"?
[10:27] <codecaine> yes
[10:27] <MojoWork> ladydoor: let you know in a sec
[10:27] <Ace> has anyone had the problem of doing an apt-get and not being able to reboot?
[10:27] <lupine_85> dunkel: you want sed
[10:27] <tyler-wylie> You're crappy DVD won't start on my desktop :(
[10:27] <MojoWork> ladydoor: i think you're right though :)
[10:27] <codecaine> I wanted to see if there was a way around a editior
[10:27] <jaspr> it's the libvte4 packages. I did a dist-upgrade just yesterday, but i had this problem for longer.
[10:27] <lupine_85> assuming it's not a binary package
[10:27] <MojoWork> ladydoor: yep, thanks alot!!
[10:27] <krazykit> tyler-wylie: then you probably burned it wrong.
[10:27] <ladydoor> MojoWork: great!
[10:27] <jaspr> I'll try installing it manually.
[10:27] <eyequeue> !language > tyler-wylie
[10:27] <lupine_85> s/package/format/
[10:27] <tyler-wylie> well, actually the crappy ubuntu DVD won't load X on my radeon
[10:27] <tyler-wylie> sorry
[10:27] <marcin_ant> !webmin
[10:27] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[10:28] <dunkel> lupine_85: sed? on apt?
[10:28] <tyler-wylie> sorry eyequeue
[10:28] <maurodafnis> I just dont understand why I should say my reasons and i got sooo bored of hearing that "its stupid to run KDE as root" . I know it , its my problem , move in plx =]
[10:28] <maurodafnis> move on plx ^^
[10:28] <bLaZeD> tyler-wylie, if itsd the live dvd use the safe graphics mode
[10:28] <eyequeue> maurodafnis, not in #ubuntu pleae
[10:28] <lupine_85> dunkel: depends on what you want to do
[10:28] <maurodafnis> hmm why not ?
[10:28] <tyler-wylie> bLaZeD, tried that ^_^ no screens found
[10:28] <eyequeue> maurodafnis, again, you won't find help breaking ubuntu security in #ubuntu
[10:28] <kalif> codecaine: I can't remember...   but it's there ...  somwhere
[10:28] <maurodafnis> eyequeue IQ < 100 ?
[10:28] <bLaZeD> tyler-wylie, well atis suck....especialy on linux
[10:28] <ph8> marcin_ant: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-7507.html
[10:28] <Ace> is the dist-upgrade a problem right now?
[10:29] <lupine_85> if the files are in text format (or you can transform them to text format), and you have a string you want to change, sed is the best way to do it
[10:29] <tyler-wylie> bLaZeD, I know, I barely got it working with gentoo, and even then it was bad, so I'm trying my ubuntu DVD I got
[10:29] <eyequeue> maurodafnis, not is this the complaint department
[10:29] <maurodafnis> do i look like i ask for help to break ubuntu security ?
[10:29] <ladydoor> maurodafnis: please leave. insulting people is uncalled-for
[10:29] <bLaZeD> tyler-wylie, try this : during the booting on it...hit ctrl alt f1
[10:29] <lupine_85> we could all just type "/ignore..." ;)
[10:29] <eyequeue> maurodafnis, nor is the the PERSONAL ATTACKS department!  please stop immediately!
[10:29] <magnet> maurodafnis: the thing is, it's easy; would you just look in conf files, you'd find how to do it in no time; I even told you where to look; instead of complaining here, you'd better get started if you really want to run X as root :)
[10:29] <bLaZeD> tyler-wylie, then change the xorg conf to use somthing realy generic like vesa for a driver
[10:29] <tomsaso> hi.. how can i download and install codecs for mp3,AVI,MPEG,DVD... etc.... ac3 filters and everything needed for home music and video.
[10:29] <maurodafnis> lol
[10:30] <maurodafnis> FYI i didnt start insulting
[10:30] <dunkel> lupine_85: oh, I was talking about several audio formats, sorry forgot to mention :)
 eyequeue IQ < 100 ?
[10:30] <tyler-wylie> tomsaso, add the universal repository and install the codecs, do a search for stuff from gstreamer
[10:30] <eyequeue> unacceptable
[10:30] <maurodafnis> u insulted me by acting like i want to break ubuntu security about 4-5 times
[10:30] <lupine_85> dunkel: not really sure how you'd do that
[10:30] <fredrik> can someone tell me how i can configure my wireless the easiest
[10:30] <magnet> eyequeue: yep, we all know it was <= and not < ! ;)
[10:30] <bLaZeD> !restricted > tomsaso
[10:30] <we2by> any dock like os x for gnome?
[10:30] <eyequeue> okay, someone want to call !ops on this guy?
[10:30] <lupine_85> is there a program/command you run to edit the file?
[10:30] <kalif> fredrik: iwconfig?
[10:31] <|lostbyte|> ph8, any idea ?
[10:31] <ladydoor> eyequeue: i'd suggest just a dftt
[10:31] <maurodafnis> hmmm call !ops because you are wrong ?
[10:31] <ubuntu> brasil
[10:31] <lupine_85> e.g. can you do "edit_the_tag_of 1file"
[10:31] <jrib> !br
[10:31] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[10:31] <maurodafnis> =]
[10:31] <dunkel> lupine_85:  EasyTAG 1.99.11 is what i have
[10:31] <ladydoor> eyequeue: that we we get the satisfaction of ignoring him in self-righteousness
[10:31] <|lostbyte|> label windows default /dev/hda1 ?
[10:31] <fredrik> kalif, were do i find theiwconfig
[10:31] <lupine_85> dunkel: is that command line? GUI?
[10:31] <dunkel> gui
[10:31] <eyequeue> tha'ts it, i'm not up for this, someone else can have the channel troll
[10:31] <kalif> fredrik: apt-file
[10:31] <Ace> can anyone help with my computer please?
[10:31] <kalif> it's your friend
[10:31] <lupine_85> and what sort of file is it editing? mp3?
[10:31] <jrib> codecaine: there is some bash command I can't remember... I do know how to do it in python though...
[10:31] <Wes122> hi, I'm just learning/reading about linux, and I'd like to install ubuntu on my mac powerbook, is it possible to leave osx on it while doing so?
[10:31] <fredrik> i am new to this
[10:31] <lupine_85> (e.g. changing ID3 tags)
[10:31] <kalif> !apt-file > fredrik
[10:31] <magnet> Wes122: yep of course
[10:32] <Wes122> magnet do you know where I could maybe read about doing so?
[10:32] <magnet> Wes122: you can have OSX and Ubuntu on dualboot, you can even run Ubuntu in a virtual machine from OSX
[10:32] <maurodafnis> anyway thanx to the guy that answered my question , i didnt even remember his name because other people were busy telling me "how stupid idea it is" , "that they wont help me break ubuntu security" and stuff like that
[10:32] <Samuli^> maurodafnis, sudo passwd root then enter your pass, then the new root pass. That should enable you to login as root.
[10:32] <dunkel> lupine_85: i guess all sorts of files with tags (id3, flac vorbis tag etc)
[10:32] <bLaZeD> Wes122, i dont have os x but u can dual boot os's
[10:32] <magnet> Wes122: yes too ;) what's your mac?
[10:32] <kalif> fredrik: you need to install wireless-tools
[10:32] <maurodafnis> Samuli : thx
[10:32] <codecaine> whats the command in python?
[10:32] <fredrik> sorry but wat is the apt file
[10:32] <Wes122> powerbook g4, my friend who uses it said he didn't think so... but
[10:33] <magnet> Wes122: well you can install Ubuntu PPC
[10:33] <fredrik> can i download the wireless tools from ubuntu
[10:33] <dudemeister> hiho there. i use gvidm to change my graphics resolution at runtime (kde display settings didnt work and screwed xorg.config). but it does not set new screen layout, SO not the whole screen is visible. any way around this???
[10:33] <Samuli^> maurodafnis, I recommend you don't run firefox, xchat etc. as root though, but, hey. Do what you want. :)
[10:33] <ladydoor> Samuli^: don't feed the troll
[10:33] <marcin_ant> ph8: thank you for url
[10:33] <kalif> fredrik: have a look here:
[10:33] <kalif> !apt-file
[10:33] <ubotu> apt-file is a program that can tell you in which package you can find the files you look for. sudo apt-get install apt-file && sudo apt-file update
[10:33] <magnet> Wes122: just download it from www.ubuntu.com, burn it, boot from it and it should be pretty straightforward
[10:33] <Samuli^> ladydoor, troll?
[10:33] <lupine_85> hmmm... unless it takes command-line options (e.g. something like easytag file --cli --change-tag <tagname> <tovalue>), you'll need to use another program
[10:33] <Wes122> hmm ok
[10:33] <jaspr> I start to undestand now, it seems i have a newer libvte-common installed then the dapper one. I have been playing with the compiz xgl stuff.
[10:33] <ladydoor> Samuli^: if you scroll up you'll see a nice history of rudeness and refusal to listen to people
[10:33] <lupine_85> something like id3ed, for instance
[10:33] <maurodafnis> Ofcourse i wont
[10:33] <Ace> can anyone help out here please?
[10:34] <lupine_85> you can then pass file names to it using wildcards or xargs
[10:34] <jrib> codecaine: clipboard = gtk.Clipboard(selection = 'PRIMARY')  will get you the PRIMARY buffer, checkout the pygtk reference for how to write to it (I'm only grabbing text in my script)
[10:34] <magnet> Wes122: just don't forget that it's ubuntu PPC and it lacks some of the packages of ubuntu for x86 (win32 codecs etc)
[10:34] <fredrik> and how do i do this the best way?
[10:34] <jaspr> I uninstalled the compix xgl stuff, but I guess not all packages.
[10:34] <bruenig> Ace...
[10:34] <tyler-wylie> bLaZeD, got my drivers set up right I still get a no screens found error
[10:34] <Wes122> ok, I've never used linux before so...
[10:34] <kalif> fredrik: sudo apt-get install wireless-tools
[10:34] <magnet> Wes122: ok well try it out :) it should be pretty easy and just select dual boot at the install stage, it shouldn't break anything :)
[10:34] <magnet> (hopefully ;)
[10:34] <Wes122> I'm well backed up though incase I had to put in a new osx
[10:34] <maurodafnis> ladydoor , what can't you understand ?
[10:35] <fredrik> sudo????????????
[10:35] <Wes122> ok
[10:35] <mycroes> hi all, is there a decent guide on grub booting for ubuntu (with lvm2)
[10:35] <dunkel> lupine_85: good idea, i'll probably mess it up but worth trying, thanks :)
[10:35] <mycroes> ?
[10:35] <magnet> Wes122: ok so there's nothing to be afraid of :)
[10:35] <Ace> bruenig, I did an apt-get dist-upgrade last night and now my computer is not booting up... currently it is a grub 15 error
[10:35] <Wes122> yep
[10:35] <fredrik> can you please tell me step by step?
[10:35] <maurodafnis> i am never rude, eyequeue was rude by implying i want to break ubuntu security
[10:35] <Samuli^> ladydoor, yeah, well he's got his point. It's his computer he states he knows the drawbacks. Are we saying that people can't make their own (informed) decisions about how to run their OS?
[10:35] <Wes122> how long should I expect an install to take mag?
[10:35] <kalif> fredrik: you know how to open a terminal?
[10:35] <maurodafnis> and he got his answer
[10:35] <maurodafnis> Samuli : at last ...
[10:35] <magnet> Wes122: mhh .. 45mins - 1 hour max
[10:36] <Wes122> ok great
[10:36] <Wes122> thanks
[10:36] <fredrik> yes, aha ok and then type in sud etc in there
[10:36] <bLaZeD> tyler-wylie, try to reconfigure your xorg then....im not realy sure.......on mine if the nvidia driver doesnt work for w/e reason...i just change the driver to vesa restart x and then i have a gui until i reinstall the nvidia driver
[10:36] <kalif> fredrik: yes
[10:36] <bruenig> Ace, not sure why that would happen
[10:36] <fredrik> thanks, soon a real pro at thios
[10:36] <ladydoor> Samuli^: that's not the issue, it's more the whole "insulting people" and not listening to suggestions. i told him he could set the root password, for example, if his heart was set on it, and even said how. *shrug*
[10:36] <tyler-wylie> bLaZeD, I shouldn't need ot use vesa, I have my radeon driver loaded, it's a no screens found error
[10:36] <maurodafnis> :O
[10:36] <maurodafnis> lol ?
[10:37] <jrib> can the maurodafnis be taken to -offtopic please?
[10:37] <Ace> bruenig, me neither... before this it was mounting root file system and grub was fine, but would not mount my root file system
[10:37] <ladydoor> jrib: you're right. i'm sorry
[10:37] <dudemeister> hmm, can anyone help here? i have no problem setting screen resolutio, but if i make the resolution lower the screen does not fit into the new resolution (borders are not visible, but i can scroll around)....
[10:37] <mycroes> anyone booting with grub?
[10:37] <boink> most use grub
[10:37] <bLaZeD> tyler-wylie, i forget the command to reconfigure xorg.....maby some in here knows....its like reconfigure -xorg or somthing
[10:37] <magnet> mycroes: yep but not with lvm2 ;)
[10:37] <boink> really, who still uses lilo?
[10:37] <dudemeister> seems like the screen layout of the xorg server does not get changed
[10:37] <Samuli^> ladydoor, ah, ok. I didn't know that. I just thought he was pissed because nobody told him how to and insisted on keeping lectures instead.
[10:37] <daxxar> How do I enable support for shadow-passwords?
[10:37] <Renan_s2> bLaZeD, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:38] <mycroes> magnet, I don't think lvm2 should be the problem
[10:38] <magnet> mycroes: what is? :)
[10:38] <Neo8750> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[10:38] <mycroes> magnet, just installed ubuntu 6.10 today
[10:38] <tyler-wylie> bLaZeD, wait a minute just figured it out, it was using the wrong busID for my video card
[10:38] <Neo8750> thats directly from the xorg.conf file itself
[10:38] <mycroes> magnet, well I installed but skipped lilo
[10:38] <Samuli^> ladydoor, And no, I don't like how he handled the situation, but if giving the information makes him shut up, then why not :)
[10:38] <JloR> Quicky question. I have some install CDs for 5.10 .. How bad would I mess things up if I installed that and upgraded to 6.06 ?
[10:38] <pettern-> my controller changed from /dev/sda to /dev/sdc. grub still works but it cant find the root partition. i changed in fstab but that didnt help..
[10:38] <mycroes> magnet, gonna try if I can just find the default opts...
[10:38] <kalif> JloR: that'll work
[10:39] <magnet> mycroes: well sudo grub-install
[10:39] <mycroes> oh btw, what's the difference between oem install and text mode install?
[10:39] <JloR> okay. And seemlessly ? I just need something that works on my laptop.. and rather fast :)
[10:39] <bLaZeD> Renan_s2, yea thats the command thanks =D tyler-wylie run that command "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[10:39] <magnet> mycroes: oem asks even fewer questions, text mode is just the debian sarge installer
[10:39] <mycroes> magnet, I'm nut in ubuntu :p
[10:39] <Crescendo> What's the Ubuntu equivalend of Windows' Dreamweaver?  Particularly the editing a file, saving and having it automatically placed on the server?
[10:39] <Crescendo> equivalent.*
[10:39] <magnet> Crescendo: Nvu
[10:39] <Samuli^> how did you auth yourself on this network again?
[10:39] <magnet> mycroes: mh so you want to install grub and you can't boot ubuntu?
[10:39] <tyler-wylie> bLaZeD, I fixed it, it was trying to use my onboard video card instead of my radeon, stupid auto configs, changed it back manually though :)
[10:39] <Wes122> hehe lol I'm in a hotel and with this connection download will take 2 days lol
[10:40] <bLaZeD> ahh good deal tyler-wylie =D
[10:40] <mycroes> magnet, I'm already using grub for gentoo, now I want that grub to boot ubuntu too, so that if I like ubuntu I'll move to it soon
[10:40] <fredrik> kalif, i typed the instructions in the terminal, came back as 0 all the way
[10:40] <tyler-wylie> bLaZeD, only thing wrong with auto-generating anything, they tend to be flawed somehow
[10:40] <jrib> codecaine: the bash command was xclip!
[10:40] <fredrik> i used use windows before, is that a problem
[10:41] <magnet> mycroes: oh ok. so you know what disk/partition the ubuntu /boot is?
[10:41] <ladydoor> mycroes: i believe you can edit /boot/grub/menu.lst from gentoo
[10:41] <codecaine> ah ty
[10:41] <Samuli^> maurodafnis, I think you can't see my text on the query because I haven't authed my nick
[10:41] <bLaZeD> tyler-wylie, yea but it sounded like u had a boiked conf.....i figured that the reconfigure would at least give u a nice skelaton of a conf to work with
[10:41] <bLaZeD> *boinked
[10:41] <mycroes> magnet, ladydoor: I know all that kinda stuff, I'm just hoping the default initrd will be sufficent to boot from lvm2
[10:41] <maurodafnis> true
[10:41] <fredrik> kalif, maybe the wireless pcmcia card dont need to run on windows only
[10:41] <ladydoor> mycroes: ohhhh...hm. sounds complicated. good luck :-)
[10:42] <mycroes> ladydoor, thanks :P
[10:42] <magnet> mycroes: let's hope so then :)
[10:42] <mycroes> magnet, I'm trying...
[10:42] <codecaine> anybody else flash script is messaged up from the update whenever I install something it keeps coming up
[10:42] <pestilence> i installed ubuntu server on this hard drive in a different computer, and moved it to this computer.  now networking doesn't work (no eth0, and adding it to /etc/network/interfaces doesn't work since eth0 doesn't exist)
[10:42] <pestilence> how do i fix this?
[10:42] <tyler-wylie> bLaZeD, nope...just wish sometimes ubuntu had some sense to at least include an option to not automatically generate *everything*... gentoo's the exact opposite, so I usually mess with both to meet a happy medium
[10:42] <maurodafnis> can you solve it ? =]
[10:42] <Samuli^> maurodafnis, but like you said, it's not important who's right or wrong. This is just irc, so who even cares.
[10:43] <pestilence> i.e. is there a dpkg-reconfigure networking or similar
[10:43] <magnet> pestilence: is there a network card recognized by linux? (in lspci)
[10:43] <maurodafnis> true again
[10:43] <ladydoor> codecaine: do you mean when you do sudo apt-get upgrade? i believe there's just an issue with the latest binary or somesuch
[10:43] <pestilence> magnet, yes, and the module is in the kernel (i.e. lsmod shows the module is loaded)
[10:43] <pestilence> but it isn't recognized as eth0
[10:43] <magnet> pestilence: hu and dmesg tells you what device it is?
[10:43] <codecaine> yes
[10:43] <lupine_85> pestilence: does the card show up in lspci?
[10:44] <bLaZeD> tyler-wylie, eww gentoo ;D
[10:44] <pestilence> lupine_85, yes, see above message to magnet
[10:44] <codecaine> should I just uninstall flash and install it manually?
[10:44] <thenetduck> does anyone know how to installicons on Xfce ??
[10:44] <joserene> hey i'm very new to the linux world, i just installed ubuntu 5 (hedgehog something) from a cd i got from a friend, then when i was downloading updates i got a message that there was a new version, so i downloaded it, now i've extracted it and burned it to a cd but i can't manage to install the new version can anyone help???
[10:44] <mycroes> is anyone here using one ubuntu install with 2 video-cards (switching on reboot)?
[10:44] <synjet> joserene: what exactly was the message?
[10:45] <magnet> joserene: you can update to the newest version in the update menu (ie using the internet, no need to use a CD)
[10:45] <tyler-wylie> bLaZeD, the thing is, it takes a good bit of time to set up SuSE, Gentoo and ubuntu how I like them, it's just... basically which I prefer, apt-get, yast, or portage
[10:45] <synjet> joserene: your system should have got updated to ver 6.06 automatically, you dont have to dload or burn
[10:45] <jaspr> great i fixed it, had to completely remove ubuntu-desktop, then do an apt-get update, and reinstall it again.
[10:45] <joserene> oh so just by downloading all the automatic updates it will update to version 6.something???
[10:45] <tyler-wylie> bLaZeD, but I'm putting ubuntu on this box because I just want it to work automagically with my new TV tuner card :D
[10:45] <magnet> joserene: if you ask it to, yes
[10:45] <pestilence> magnet, dmesg does show it.... 3c905c tornado
[10:46] <joserene> how do i ask it to?
[10:46] <magnet> joserene: in the automatic updates menu, there's a button "update to 6.06 LTS"
[10:46] <magnet> joserene: maybe you already did it
[10:46] <kalif> codecaine: xclip is what you're looking for
[10:46] <fredrik> kalif are you still there?
[10:46] <magnet> pestilence: hehe a pretty good 3com :)
[10:46] <codecaine> yea I got it
[10:46] <kalif> yes?
[10:46] <mycroes> magnet, can you point me to a grub conf for ubuntu?
[10:46] <pestilence> magnet, i know it works in linux
[10:46] <bLaZeD> tyler-wylie, yea gentoo is one distro i wont touch....if i want to have somthing like that id install a *bsd ......i use linux as a desktop so i need a linux that a: has good support b: will let me do anything i want with my media c: is free d: and its NOT microsuck
[10:47] <magnet> pestilence: yep I know, of course it does :) well do you know what device it is (ie, what /dev/ethX it is?)
[10:47] <we2by> how do I make the buttons on the main toolbar of nautilus smaller???
[10:47] <fredrik> i typed in the sudo apt-get install etc, but all the values came back as 0
[10:47] <magnet> mycroes: mhh, let me try that
[10:47] <joserene> ok thanks magnet i'll try that, i didn't download any updates since i thought of installing the new version (my mind is still stuck on microsoft style :P)
[10:47] <magnet> !grub
[10:47] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:47] <joserene> thanks
[10:47] <magnet> ;)
[10:47] <bLaZeD> afk
[10:47] <pestilence> magnet, i'm not sure i know what you mean.  there is no /dev/eth*
[10:47] <lupine_85> gentoo++
[10:47] <tyler-wylie> bLaZeD, heh, the only thing that turned me off ubuntu a while ago was the pain to install non-open codecs, but it's not that bad now, I'm used to Gentoo the most, and it's the easiest for me to work with, but I like diversity, and give everything a try
[10:47] <pestilence> magnet, but it's the only card in the machine
[10:47] <lupine_85> only reason I don't use it is that compilation takes *so* long
[10:48] <kalif> fredrik: try iwconfig
[10:48] <mycroes> magnet, it seems grub isn't default with 6.10
[10:48] <magnet> pestilence: mhh, what does sudo ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:48] <pestilence> magnet, tells me no such device
[10:48] <magnet> mycroes: I don't know for 6.10, surprising anyway
[10:48] <fredrik> in the same terminal
[10:48] <lupine_85> mycroes: grub is the default
[10:48] <pestilence> i believe this used to be fixed by an alias in /etc/modprobe.conf.
[10:48] <mycroes> magnet, I didn't see anything about grub, but I'll pay extra attention when installing ubuntu on this box
[10:49] <magnet> mycroes: ok :)
[10:49] <pestilence> but not sure how ubuntu does this magic.
[10:49] <lupine_85> pestilence: /etc/modprobe.d/aliases then
[10:49] <rdz> hi all. which charset should i use in evolution, so that mac-users see some special characters like  correctly?
[10:49] <JamieBE> Does anyone in here know javascript, I have a real quick, but slightly tricky question in regards to an Ubuntu app I have. Any takers?
[10:49] <tyler-wylie> bLaZeD, but the one thing ubuntu has done already was getting direct rendering working with the open source radeon driver, which I could *never* get with Gentoo because I don't use AGP and no one knew how...so it gets two thumbs up from me already
[10:49] <kalif> fredrik: yes
[10:49] <kalif> remember sudo
[10:49] <pestilence> lupine_85, but there is no entry for eth0 there on any of my other machines, which makes me wonder how ubuntu determines what eth0 is
[10:49] <fredrik> kalif, i tried that but says no wirelessextension
[10:49] <synjet> JamieBE: try ubuntu developers channel
[10:50] <JamieBE> synjet: what channel is that? :)
[10:50] <kalif> fredrik: then ubuntu doesn't know your wifi-card
[10:50] <synjet> JamieBE: not sure, I guess #ubuntu-dev
[10:51] <synjet> !ubuntu-dev
[10:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:51] <mdasilva_> whats up with the    sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)     when doing an apt-get update ?
[10:51] <fredrik> kalif, what do i do then
[10:51] <kalif> google :)
[10:51] <magnet> pestilence: mhh wait i'm checking something
[10:51] <kalif> which card is it ?
[10:51] <fredrik> kalif, and looking for what, drivers or a new wireless card
[10:51] <lupine_85> pestilence: that's done automagically
[10:52] <lupine_85> is it possible that it's called it eth1 or something instead? (ifconfig -a)
[10:52] <lupine_85> that happened to me when I tarballed a server recently
[10:52] <^psych0^> hey y'all just trying to set up the network-manager-gnome app... to be able to use WPA-PSK, but it doesn't seem to recognize that there is a wireless network on the machine... this is on Breezy...
[10:52] <^psych0^> any ideas?
[10:52] <JamieBE> Thanks synjet
[10:52] <kalif> fredrik: which card is it ?
[10:52] <damousys> does anyone knows how to compile ImageMagick on ubuntu ?
[10:52] <mycroes> magnet, seems to be booting right now
[10:52] <soty> hello there - i have questions
[10:52] <lupine_85> !compile
[10:52] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:52] <magnet> mycroes: nice
[10:53] <mycroes> magnet, booted fine
[10:53] <magnet> pestilence: try cat /proc/net/dev
[10:53] <lupine_85> ImageMagick is in repos, though - is there something missing in that one?
[10:53] <frenchy> hey does anyone know why sometimes when i plug my ipod in ubuntu mounts it and sometimes it doesn't?
[10:53] <damousys> no i know
[10:53] <mycroes> magnet, it's currently pestering me with music
[10:53] <magnet> mycroes: haha, it means it works ;)
[10:53] <fredrik> its called mentor IEEE802.11g for window 98, me,2000 and xp
[10:53] <mycroes> magnet, now I need to fix my res :P
[10:53] <magnet> mycroes: well have fun ;)
[10:54] <soty> im using the live cd (5.04) - does this mean all things that i do are not recorded in any way apart from the ram which will be forgot when i restart
[10:54] <keegan_> Hello Everyone, I have a Geforce 5200, and I was wondering if I could use AIXGL without any issue.  Also if I can does anyone know where a guide is, so I can install it.
[10:54] <codecaine> xclip doesn't work
[10:54] <beuno> keegan_: nope
[10:54] <codecaine> I tryed to copy text from a file so I can paste in my browser
[10:54] <beuno> nvidia is not supported
[10:54] <kalif> codecaine: yes it does
[10:54] <mycroes> magnet, I'm trying, but seems I need to get used to a couple of things first :P
[10:55] <keegan_> Does Nvidia support XGL?
[10:55] <magnet> pestilence: still here?
[10:55] <fatbrain> What gui subversion client would you suggest?
[10:55] <beuno> keegan_: yes, that would be your choice
[10:55] <manofcyrus> i think defoult is grub
[10:55] <keegan_> Alrighty...
[10:55] <magnet> mycroes: well I'm sure that coming from gentoo you won't need too much assistance ;)
[10:55] <kalif> fredrik: I'm lost then - you'll ave to find out which chip is on the card, end then find out if that chip is supported by Linux
[10:55] <keegan_> So I'm guessing AIGLX is ment for ATI cards?
[10:55] <ladydoor> codecaine: cat file, highlight text, middle-click to paste might work...
[10:55] <soty> ok my other question was - how do i access a slave drive whilst using ubuntu live ? damn ive been using windows too long
[10:56] <damousys> yes there is something missing magick++ isn't there
[10:56] <codecaine> oh was right clicking
[10:56] <mycroes> magnet, hehe, I hope not :P
[10:56] <beuno> keegan_: not really, it's just that theres the whole open/closed driver thin really messes things up
[10:56] <mycroes> magnet, I hope to be helping other ppl very soon
[10:56] <fredrik> do i just go in and have a look on the website?
[10:56] <codecaine> I don't have a middle button on my laptop
[10:56] <magnet> soty: there should be an icon on the desktop
[10:56] <keegan_> I see I see..
[10:56] <kalif> codecaine: use left-right then
[10:56] <mycroes> magnet, but I never really worked with apt-get except for my ipaq running familiar...
[10:56] <fatbrain> !svn
[10:56] <ubotu> svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/
[10:56] <damousys> but if i am trying to compile it says magic++ installed no(failed test)
[10:56] <codecaine> a ok
[10:56] <beuno> keegan_: eventually, this will be fixed, but it really depends on the manufacturers to speed up the process
[10:57] <magnet> mycroes: well it will be a change to get new software in less than 2 hours of compile time </troll> ;)
[10:57] <soty> the cdrom drive is the only icon on the desktop
[10:57] <mycroes> magnet, lol, that was like the reason I switched :P
[10:57] <keegan_> I just read somewhere that AIXGL has a better chance of doing all the cool stuff with a lower card
[10:57] <mycroes> magnet, and also the fact I only use default gnome apps, gaim-2 and xchat
[10:57] <DokGonzo> Hi guys, need some help...
[10:58] <magnet> !ask
[10:58] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:58] <Jesse> How do I mount a remote directory from another server?
[10:58] <w30> keegan_, yep, it's in the ropository as a binary driver nvidia-glx
[10:58] <beuno> keegan_: yes, that is true, but I don't think a geforce 5200 is considered a "lower" card
[10:58] <soty> any thoughts why its not showing up magnet
[10:58] <magnet> Jesse: depends on what filesharing protocols the remote server supports
[10:58] <DokGonzo> Well - I'm trying to install Ubuntu v6.06 LTS but it always hangs at 37%...
[10:58] <magnet> soty: what filesystem does it use?
[10:58] <fredrik> kalif, do i just check out mentors website?
[10:58] <magnet> DokGonzo: download the alternate install CD
[10:58] <eternalswd> does the xserver that comes with dapper use demage?
[10:58] <Jesse> magnet: it's running CentOS
[10:59] <keegan_> Whelp...I'm gunna go and try to install it, if I get caught in a sang...I'll be back
[10:59] <keegan_> lol
[10:59] <mycroes> magnet, I need to add some repositories, but instead of asking you how to I'd rather read something to get me started on apt-get, any suggestions?
[10:59] <damousys> does any1 knows?
[10:59] <magnet> Jesse: then you must enable NFS exports on the remote server and mount it using NFS
[10:59] <DokGonzo> i downloaded from the official site, is there another more reliable source?
[10:59] <Wolfpaws> 'lo. Where can I find ReiserFS4 module?
[10:59] <beuno> heh, ok ok, have fun  ;D
[10:59] <DokGonzo> and besides, cd check says CD is ok...
[10:59] <soty> master is ntfs (sp?) same with slave i think
[10:59] <beuno> remember, ubuntuforums is your friend
[10:59] <lupine_85> damousys: you need to isntall this "magic++" thing
[10:59] <magnet> mycroes: the Debian help (for wanabee debian developers :)
[11:00] <Paddy_EIRE> how do i get the debian menu to show up under Applications...I've tried Alacarte and its there but i dont see it
[11:00] <C-O-L-T> suse menu called slab will be included in ubuntu's next release?
[11:00] <DokGonzo> i really don't think it's due to a faulty cd image...
[11:00] <synjet> Paddy_EIRE: right-click on the top panel
[11:00] <mycroes> magnet, ok, thanks, I'll try to find some stuff, guess I'll be asking new questions in 10 minutes or so ;)
[11:00] <ladydoor> Paddy_EIRE: try killall gnome-panel so that it'll restart
[11:00] <damousys> yes but that should be in the imagemagick soutce
[11:00] <damousys> yes but that should be in the imagemagick source
[11:00] <magnet> DokGonzo: no it's just that the alternate install CD is less "bleeding edge" and works on more computers
[11:00] <magnet> DokGonzo: you can get it from the official website too
[11:00] <cbx33> how do I enable SMP?
[11:00] <mrDaniel> hmm,  i don't understand the topic: who is 'lilo and his family' and why 'miss you' ???
[11:01] <damousys> install the smp modules
[11:01] <cbx33> mrDaniel, lilo was the founder of freenode
[11:01] <cbx33> mrDaniel, he was killed ina hit and run a few days ago