[00:50] <Brian_H> bkerensa: earlier you asked about the drbd source code, it's public if you want it http://www.drbd.org/users-guide/s-checking-out-git.html
[03:10] <bkerensa> Brian_H: It was Perka
[03:10] <bkerensa> Brian_H: the reason I was asking was because I was wondering how hard it was for people to contribute
[03:10] <bkerensa> blkperl: :D
[03:11] <bkerensa> blkperl: Hopefully you guys can spread some Ubuntu and I told the people there about the release party next sunday... apparently they did not know :D
[03:11] <bkerensa> nathwill: I got a android
[03:11] <nathwill> bkerensa: what kind of device?
[03:11] <bkerensa> nathwill: HTC Inspire 4G?
[03:11] <bkerensa> is that good?
[03:12] <nathwill> bkerensa: looks like a nice phone, but you're w/ ATT?
[03:13] <bkerensa> nathwill: yes
[03:13] <nathwill> :(
[03:13] <bkerensa> nathwill: but I didnt upgrade :D
[03:13] <bkerensa> nathwill: I swapped my iPhone 3GS for it
[03:13] <nathwill> ah
[03:13] <nathwill> nice :)
[03:13] <bkerensa> I had a friend who wanted a iPhone and plus I through in two hundred dollars in cases and other accessories
[03:14] <bkerensa> :D
[03:14] <nathwill> well that's nice of ya!
[03:15] <bkerensa> lol
[03:15]  * bkerensa is still wondering if I got the better end of the deal
[03:15] <nathwill> indeed
[03:16] <nathwill> so i was looking up more info on those proliant servers
[03:16] <nathwill> looks like the cost came down a bit
[03:16] <nathwill> blows that the micros only have 1 nic though
[03:17] <bkerensa> nathwill: yeah so you can use it for a firewall
[03:17] <bkerensa> well
[03:18] <nathwill> i want a min 4bay, dual core, with support for 8G ram and dual nic, for ~400
[03:18] <nathwill> and they just don't seem to exist
[03:19] <cy1> a router with 8G of  RAM? o.o
[03:19] <cy1> dual core o.O What are you wanting to do, DPI?
[03:20] <sbeattie> nathwill: you talking about the N40Ls? Throwing in an extra nic should be cheap, and going to 8GB of RAM (even keeping ECC) shouldn't be too bad.
[03:21] <nathwill> sbeattie: aha! thanks for pointing that out, just noticed they have expansion slots...
[03:21] <nathwill> that's it, i'm gettin' one
[03:22] <sbeattie> Oh, boo, they're back up to $350 on newegg: http://camelegg.com/product/N82E16859107052?locale=US
[03:22] <nathwill> sbeatie, you know if that chip supports VT?
[03:23] <sbeattie> It does
[03:23] <nathwill> eeexcellent
[03:24] <nathwill> my current nas (qnap ts119) doesn't even stand up to lxc
[03:24] <nathwill> but i smashed debian onto it, which has made it enormously more useful than it was out of the box
[03:25] <nathwill> yeah, that proliant's lookin mighty fine.
[03:26] <nathwill> sbeattie, you have any direct experience w/ the n40Ls?
[03:27] <sbeattie> Yeah, I bought one a couple of weeks ago to replace an aging shuttle box
[03:28] <sbeattie> I haven't dropped it in place yet, but it's a nice little box.
[03:28] <sbeattie> I needed two more network ports, so I had to get a dual-nic card to drop into it.
[03:29] <nathwill> you have you LAN divided, or dual wan?
[03:30] <nathwill> i'm guessing they're PCI expansion slots, right? newegg is short on details...
[03:31] <sbeattie> There's one PCI-X x16 and one PCI-X x1 slot in it.
[03:32] <nathwill> cool. thx.
[03:32] <sbeattie> they need a half-hight bracket to fit (common for server oriented stuff)
[03:34] <sbeattie> http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06a/15351-15351-4237916-4237918-4237917-4248009.html?dnr=1 is the hp info on it
[03:34] <orebuntu_> sbeattie's tiny URL is http://tinyurl.com/8yse7ez
[03:35] <nathwill> looking at the nic cards, looks like i'd end up w/ a dual, unless i find a single in my parts heap
[03:36] <nathwill> y'all see that HP is certifying 12.04 for their proliant series?
[03:37] <sbeattie> Sorry, I may have confused things, it should be PCIe x16 and x1
[03:37] <sbeattie> Yeah, that's pretty cool.
[03:37] <bkerensa> wow
[03:37] <nathwill> :D big congrats to the server team.
[03:37] <bkerensa> :( so many options in android
[03:37] <nathwill> lol
[03:38] <nathwill> options fer what?
[03:38] <bkerensa> everything
[03:38] <bkerensa> :(
[03:38] <nathwill> lmao
[03:38] <bkerensa> I have spent 30 mins just in contacts
[03:38] <nathwill> why is that a frowny face?!
[03:38] <bkerensa> this is phone porn
[03:38] <bkerensa> its bad
[03:38] <bkerensa> a addiction even
[03:38] <nathwill> pffft
[03:41] <nathwill> i wonder if the Ubuntu certification for the proliant series means HP will eventually ship them preinstalled
[03:42] <bkerensa> ;p
[03:43] <nathwill> because it's SOOOO hard to install!!
[03:44] <nathwill> it takes HOURS! and then there's the dozens of reboots, waiting for sp3...
[03:44] <nathwill> oh wait.
[03:48] <nathwill> y'all know how to add caldav support to thunderbird, by chance?
[03:49] <nathwill> i setup owncloud, and it works great, but thunderbird doesn't seem to be recognizing the calendar.
[04:10] <bkerensa> nathwill: openphoto :D
[04:11] <nathwill> bkerensa: i don't see a connection to caldav and carddav services
[04:12] <nathwill> am i missing something?
[04:18] <nathwill> ugh. even evolution is barfing on this...
[04:18] <nathwill> boo
[04:22] <nathwill> http://i.imgur.com/8tGHe.jpg
[04:24] <nathwill> so openphoto looks pretty cool
[04:36] <bkerensa> yes
[04:36] <bkerensa> it really does
[04:36] <bkerensa> but you know whats not cool.... When AT&T transfers me to dead air
[04:36] <bkerensa> :P
[04:37] <nathwill> lolz
[04:38] <bkerensa> nathwill: no seriously... my voicemail doesnt work so I called AT&T and they keep "Transferring to the next available representative" -> Dead Air for 3 minutes then Call Drop
[04:38] <bkerensa> :(
[04:41]  * blkperl hopes Dell jumps on the bandwagon and supports ubuntu server
[04:41] <bkerensa> they need to
[04:41] <bkerensa> Redhat is trash
[04:41] <bkerensa> and CentOS
[04:41] <bkerensa> ;p
[04:42] <bkerensa> distro war
[04:51] <blkperl> bkerensa: there are far worse thing that modern enterprise operatingsystems
[04:57] <blkperl> bkerensa: also launchpad ticket #1 is more important
[05:02] <bkerensa> blkperl: only Ubuntu can solve #1
[05:02] <bkerensa> :D
[05:06]  * blkperl is concerned by the critical thinkpad fans over heat bug that hasn't been fixed yet
[05:22] <nathwill> headed to bed. see y'all tomorrow
[14:44] <nathwill> morning people
[19:01] <bkerensa> ahh a fedex box from Canonical :D
[19:02] <kees> oooooh
[19:02] <bkerensa> kees: you get yours?
[19:08] <tgm4883> kees, can I bother you for a sec about UFW rules?
[19:33] <bkerensa> nathwill: More juju fun coming http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bkerensa/charms/oneiric/openphoto/trunk/view/head:/hooks/install
[19:33] <orebuntu_> bkerensa's tiny URL is http://tinyurl.com/85mejac
[19:33]  * bkerensa slaps orebuntu with a floppy trout
[19:35] <kees> tgm4883: sure, though I might not know much. I use iptables directly usually.
[19:35] <tgm4883> ah ok
[19:35] <tgm4883> kees, I've currently got this
[19:35] <tgm4883> http://pastebin.ca/2138401
[19:36] <tgm4883> but would ssh traffic reach the 2nd though 11th rules with that first one in place?
[19:36] <tgm4883> IDK how the limit action would affect it, if it pulls the traffic out or not
[19:37] <kees> tgm4883: afaik, the Limit directive is just to stop connection hammering
[19:37] <kees> tgm4883: so the rest should be fine
[19:37] <tgm4883> kees, awesome, that is what I thought but there is such an emphasis on ordering thought I'd check with someone
[19:38]  * kees nods
[19:38] <bkerensa> MarkDude: Whats the word?
[19:38] <bkerensa> MarkDude: I see you have not registered for UDS yet
[19:38] <bkerensa> :D
[19:38] <bkerensa> or CLS for that matter :)
[19:38]  * MarkDude will go to both
[19:39] <MarkDude> Technically I dont have to register for UDS
[19:39] <bkerensa> MarkDude: LOL why is that?
[19:39]  * MarkDude has made it to oscon for last 5 years in a row
[19:39] <MarkDude> wont ruin record
[19:39] <MarkDude> Because I am MarkDude
[19:39]  * MarkDude will at last minute most likely
[19:40] <bkerensa> MarkDude: Well I drop in Oakland on the morning of the 6th and dont leave till close to 10pm on the 12th
[19:41] <bkerensa> MarkDude: I was thinking if you wanna grab diner on the 12th that could be fun
[19:41] <bkerensa> I'm not sure if I will go to the UDS wrap up party since Mozilla wants me to come out to Mountain View for a party
[20:01] <MarkDude> might work fine
[20:01] <MarkDude> Will know this weekend
[20:02] <MarkDude> Most likely tho
[20:03] <nathwill> bkerensa, that charm looks cool
[20:04] <bkerensa> nathwill: http://people.ubuntu.com/~bkerensa/loco/PrecisePartyFlyer.png
[20:04] <nathwill> ha! you beat me to the punch!
[20:05] <nathwill> i was thinking last night that i needed to put one of these together to hang up at work
[20:05] <nathwill> btw, sauce?
[20:05] <bkerensa> nathwill: can you e-mail that to the list and encourage anyone interested to print copies and distribute in their local areas maybe libraries or community centers
[20:05] <nathwill> sure boss]
[20:05] <bkerensa> nathwill: what sauce do we speak of?
[20:06] <nathwill> source data for the PNG?
[20:06]  * bkerensa is going to his two libraries with the flyer tomorrow
[20:06] <nathwill> also, gyro house' delicious spicy garlic sauce
[20:08] <bkerensa> nathwill: it was ganked from Ubuntu-za
[20:08] <nathwill> ah. kk
[20:19] <nathwill> bkerensa: mail requires approval
[20:19] <nathwill> too big
[20:33] <tgm4883> anyone use knockd for port knocking on the server side?
[20:38] <bkerensa> nathwill: done
[20:38]  * bkerensa heads to burgerville to grab lunch
[20:38] <nathwill> enjoy
[20:54]  * bkerensa lol's at the "Hipsterizing..." message on all the images on his site
[21:20] <bkerensa> orebuntu_: Are you a community?
[21:20] <orebuntu_> Yes
[21:20] <bkerensa> orebuntu_: Are you a communist?
[21:20] <orebuntu_> Most likely not.
[21:20]  * MarkDude is a Communitizer
[21:21] <bkerensa> orebuntu_: Are you running 12.04?
[21:21] <orebuntu_> Most likely not.
[21:21] <bkerensa> LOL
[21:21] <MarkDude> Communitizing the Community
[21:21] <MarkDude> bkerensa, you know of anyone drving to UDS?
[21:21] <bkerensa> MarkDude: nope
[21:21] <bkerensa> nathwill should drive down
[21:21] <bkerensa> :D
[21:22] <nathwill> pffft
[21:22] <nathwill> no way
[21:22] <nathwill> i'd fly before i drove
[21:23] <bkerensa> nathwill: Train is fine for me :D
[21:23] <nathwill> true
[21:23] <bkerensa> not too fast not too slow... booze and food
[21:23] <bkerensa> :D
[21:24] <bkerensa> orebuntu_: Is nathwill a yahoo?
[21:24] <orebuntu_> My sources say yes.
[21:24] <nathwill> lmao
[21:25] <nathwill> good sources orebuntu
[21:25] <MarkDude> More like YAAAAHOOOOOOOOOO
[21:25] <bkerensa> orebuntu_: Does MarkDude have a sick fascination with all things Fedora?
[21:25] <orebuntu_> Yes
[21:25] <MarkDude> Dont forget penguins also
[21:25] <MarkDude> As well as Puppy Linux
[21:25] <MarkDude> F16 has sucked a bit
[21:25] <MarkDude> To be honest
[21:26] <nathwill> i really don't see the draw to Puppy. lots of people seem to love it, but i never really liked it
[21:26] <MarkDude> Firefox has died at least 10 times today
[21:26] <nathwill> and yes... f16 is teh ballz
[21:26] <MarkDude> As well as Fedora crashes
[21:26] <MarkDude> Puppy never lets me down
[21:26] <nathwill> f17 alpha was pretty slick
[21:26] <nathwill> and surprisingly solid for an alpha
[21:27] <MarkDude> Beefy Miracle- YES, meat your new God
[21:27] <bkerensa> orebuntu_: Does Ubuntu really whip the llamas ass?
[21:27] <orebuntu_> My sources say no.
[21:27] <bkerensa> :(
[21:27] <bkerensa> I guess only Winamp does
[21:27] <MarkDude> Dude, if Nixie found out you said ANYTHING bad about llamas, she would pummel you
[21:28] <MarkDude> or at least get some of her numerous followers to\
[21:32] <bkerensa> MarkDude: her followers are sheep :p
[21:57] <MarkDude> Well
[21:57] <MarkDude> Becareful of anyone that can snap their fingers and get 100+ local folks to do their bidding
[21:57] <MarkDude> Sheelple or not
[21:57] <MarkDude> :D
[23:55] <bkerensa> nathwill: do you have any thouhts on CD's for this cycle?
[23:55] <nathwill> bkerensa, i have thoughts on CD's, but i don't know which you're interested in
[23:55] <nathwill> so apparently shuttleworth is a keynote at OSCON this year :)
[23:56] <bkerensa> nathwill: well since we are "Not Approved" by LoCo Council and yet this is the LTS release it seems important to still try and get CD's in the hands of as many people as possible which is clearly going to cost the LoCo or me or someone some money
[23:56] <bkerensa> but I am trying to brainstorm the most cost-effective way to do this while also producing something authentic
[23:56] <bkerensa> I know California has a "Origami" CD Cover they print to then cover CDR's they burn
[23:56]  * nathwill sighs
[23:57] <bkerensa> I have a huge supply of CDR's right now but no Origami Covers and no Labels
[23:57] <nathwill> bkerensa: pretty sure we can get the cd labels on ubuntus site
[23:57] <bkerensa> nathwill: we can get the jacket design
[23:58] <nathwill> the headache is in burning up your cd drive for something that should've been shipped...
[23:58] <bkerensa> but printing that would be costly.... I looked at a handful of sites and they charge nearly a dollar a pop for jackets
[23:58] <nathwill> so what are the events that it matters to have this stuff for?
[23:58] <nathwill> release party would be nice
[23:58] <nathwill> and oscon is a definite need
[23:58] <bkerensa> nathwill: ^ yes which is why I am semi-irritated with the lack of transparency and consistent application of LoCo Criteria
[23:58] <nathwill> though if mark swings by, it would almost be better if we didn't have any
[23:59] <nathwill> and then explained why
[23:59] <bkerensa> nathwill: well I wanna have 100 CD's at the release party
[23:59] <bkerensa> I will go out on a limb and burn them at my cost and the expensive of tiring my drive out
[23:59] <nathwill> blurgh
[23:59] <bkerensa> but someone else needs to make 100 Origami covers or something else nice
[23:59] <bkerensa> :D
[23:59] <bkerensa> that is my offer
[23:59] <nathwill> there's gotta be a kinkos for cds or something
[23:59] <bkerensa> LOL
[23:59] <nathwill> yeah, that's fair
[23:59] <bkerensa> if you find it let me know
[23:59] <nathwill> i need to malaysians
[23:59] <nathwill> s/to/some/g
[23:59] <bkerensa> because I dont like the idea of doing a CD every 10 mins :D


[18:05] <chris4585> hrm there were a lot of python updates today :|
[19:09] <wrst> chris4585: on arch?
[19:10] <chris4585> wrst, yeah
[19:10] <chris4585> just renaming packages I believe
[19:10] <wrst> yeah lots of renaming of packages and such hasn't broken anything for me
[19:10] <wrst> yep exactly
[19:10] <wrst> and looks like systemd is now it
[19:11] <wrst> no more rc.conf by default i'm about to play with converting my desktop, i'm going to do a fresh install on my laptop when gnome3.6 is in the main repos
[19:14] <chris4585> yeah I really need to clean my desktop... I'm thinking about doing it easy and installing manjaro
[19:15] <wrst> chris4585: i did a clean installa  few weeks ago it was no trouble at all, just had a little difficulty getting grub installed was all
[19:18] <chris4585> I don't mind the new install process, but when I'm going to install gnome and everything else and manjaro has it in a nice installer, why not?
[19:19] <chris4585> it also auto detects and enables the right drivers for video cards
[19:37] <wrst> that is nice
[20:12] <chris4585> yeah it kind of is :)
[20:54] <wrst> wb xTEMPLARx\


[14:45] <UbuPhillup> hi
[14:45] <UbuPhillup> who to translate this https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/+source/transmission/+pots/transmission/de/197/+translate ?
[14:47] <UbuPhillup> if i try it launchpad told me:»Error in Translation:
[14:47] <UbuPhillup> 'msgstr' is not a valid C format string, unlike 'msgid'. Reason: In the directive number 1, the character '&' is not a valid conversion specifier.«
[14:47] <UbuPhillup> how to fix it?
[14:52] <UbuPhillup> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/transmission/+bug/1094774 said its fixed but it not worked ;(
[15:12] <kelemengabor> UbuPhillup: you should write it as ' instead of ' - this is some kind of a conversion error, the original strings contain single apostrophes: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/saucy/transmission/saucy/view/head:/po/de.po
[15:17] <UbuPhillup> kelemengabor: okey like this »_Zeige ' von:« or »_Zeige 'd von:« because the string in LP is »_Show %'d of:«
[15:20] <kelemengabor> UbuPhillup: %'d is the correct, because the ' is converted to ' - the % and the d should stay unchanged
[15:21] <kelemengabor> as you can see on the bazaar link - it contains several such strings
[15:22] <UbuPhillup> kelemengabor: thanks a lot worked ;)