[09:11] <AquaL1te> can someone have a look at my account (aqual1te) in launchpad? there must be something wrong with it. everytime i login with it to report a bug on lauchpad (via ubuntu one): https://cloud.neobits.nl/s/kwYyTDTJxDDAsTH i created a new account testacc123, that one worked fine. so i guess i can rule out any problems on my side. what would be the best way to report this? without a launchpad account.
[09:27] <cjwatson> AquaL1te: can do after this meeting
[09:32] <AquaL1te> cjwatson: thank you! i'll stay online
[09:33] <cjwatson> AquaL1te: You have a previous Launchpad account with the same email address.  (You must have deleted your login.{ubuntu.com,launchpad.net} account without deleting your Launchpad account.)  Do you want the old or the new username?
[09:40] <AquaL1te> cjwatson: i would like to keep AquaL1te, but do you mean the user account 'testacc123'? because i did that because of this: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2355447 it didn't work for me. furthermore, this problem is going on for me for about 4 years. so not sure if the problem is really the 'testacc123'. but let's give it a try! i would like to keep the account 'aqual1te'
[09:42] <cjwatson> I'll take this to /msg because personal data
[09:43] <cjwatson> That forums poster has no idea about Launchpad operations and should have just asked us :)
[09:44] <cjwatson> (To be fair I wouldn't expect most people to have such an idea ... just saying it's not an authoritative source)
[09:59] <cjwatson> AquaL1te: You should be able to log in now.
[10:00] <AquaL1te> cjwatson: perfect! thank you so much! now i can finally report some bugs again :)
[10:02] <cjwatson> np
[16:45] <teward> is there documentation anywhere on configuring dput-ng to upload to the PPAs?  Or do we have to use the older dput client/system?
[16:45] <teward> i've got one system I want to push to a PPA that only has dput-ng on it :|
[16:54] <cjwatson> teward: https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/en/man1/dput.1.html#examples is from dput-ng and says you can just use dput ppa:...
[16:55] <teward> ahh nice so no special configuration needed then.


[23:09] <Dekkard> I looked at the discourse..and didnt see this, from time to time it seems that pulse audio breaks, and I have no sound. Logging out and back in fixes it..Thoughts?
[23:28] <Dekkard> aight.. pulseaudio -k  got it


[00:14] <slangasek> so, we're back up to a full set of images; and it looks like kubuntu DVD are the only thing left to be tested :)
[00:14] <slangasek> liw: did Finnish tests go ok on the next run?
[00:17] <slangasek> liw: n/m, I can read the tracker saying that they did :)
[03:15] <TheMuso> c
[05:55] <dtchen> sbeattie: i'm out of time, so i'm not going to complete kubuntu dvd -> ubiquity oem. i have completed the other three tests on i386 and amd64, however.
[05:58] <sbeattie> dtchen: cool, thanks; I'm doing oem on i386 and am waiting for the amd64 dvd to download to do that one, but my pigeons are slow.
[06:04] <liw> good morning
[06:04] <liw> looks likes there's two Kubuntu DVD tests remaining (ubiquity oem install, 32- and 64-bit)
[06:04] <liw> anyone working on those?
[06:23] <sbeattie> liw: I'm working on the 32bit one and waiting for the 64 dvd to download...
[06:23] <sbeattie> if you wanna grab the latter, go for it.
[06:23] <liw> I'll do, as soon as my rsync finishes
[06:25] <sbeattie> my rsync has at least 1.5 hours to go, so you'll likely win that race.
[06:28] <liw> speaking of rsync... sbeattie, it's wonderful that dl-ubuntu-test-iso works on Debian, since now I can run it on my fileserver, which simplifies my workflow :)
[06:35] <liw> starting the test now
[06:57] <ara> good morning all :-)
[06:58] <liw> hi, ara
[06:58] <ara> hey liw
[07:00] <ara> are we expecting a respun of any of the images?
[07:02] <liw> I've only just woken up, so I don't know, but there was nothing in the backlog of this channel
[07:02] <ara> liw: yes, I am just reading the backlog
[07:08] <ara> so, liw, we can go back to sleep :P
[07:08] <liw> ara, I'm testing, I'm testing :)
[07:16] <liw> hmm... I wonder if that looks normal
[07:16] <ara> liw: what?
[07:17] <liw> the kde oem installer's language/timezone/etc chooser
[07:17] <ara> liw: can you imagebin that?
[07:17] <liw> just a minute, I'll make a screenshot
[07:17] <liw> there's an imagebin?
[07:18] <ara> liw: http://imagebin.org/index.php
[07:18] <ara> liw: I will start kde oem in the mean time
[07:19] <liw> http://imagebin.org/46426
[07:19] <liw> ara, sbeattie and I are already working on those
[07:20] <ara> liw: yes, but just to see if I get the same :)
[07:20] <liw> ah
[07:20] <ara> it does not look very pretty
[07:20] <ara> :)
[07:21] <liw> it's not a show-stopper, either
[07:21] <liw> so the question is, is it intended to be that way or not, and if not, I'll file a bug
[07:25] <sbeattie> liw: when it told you the install was done and tried to reboot, did it drop you to tty1 (which got killed but respawned)?
[07:26] <sbeattie> Oh, I bet that's because I took quiet and splash off of the install command line.
[07:26] <liw> sbeattie, no
[07:27] <ara> liw: it looks like a bug, it looks far much better in Spanish: http://imagebin.org/46429
[07:28] <liw> ara, is that with the OEM installer or the normal one?
[07:28] <ara> liw: oem
[07:28] <liw> but at the oem stage, not at the stage where the end-user boots into the system?
[07:29] <ara> liw: at the oem stage
[07:29] <ara> liw: and yours?
[07:29] <liw> the "End user creation" stage of http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/DesktopOem
[07:29] <liw> I think I'll just file a minor bug abuot that, but mark the test successful
[07:30] <ara> liw: yes, I think so
[07:30] <ara> liw: I'll move on, then, to see if I get that in the end user creation
[07:36] <sbeattie> liw: ah yeah, it's quite scrunched here as well.
[07:36] <liw> epiphany and launchpad are resisting my attempts to report the bug
[07:37] <liw> "Timeout error" *grr*
[07:37] <sbeattie> mmm, even better, X is failing after the user config here.
[07:37] <liw> sbeattie, my install went fine except for that
[07:38] <sbeattie> ara: are you doing yours in virtualbox as well?
[07:39] <ara> sbeattie: yup
[07:39] <liw> I'm using kvm
[07:40] <sbeattie> liw: yeah I saw from the imagebin.
[07:40] <liw> should I try the i386 under kvm?
[07:41] <liw> bug 364997 for the dialog weirdness, btw
[07:41] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 364997 in ubiquity "Kubuntu OEM installer's end user setup dialog layout is weird" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/364997
[07:43] <liw> I might as well try the i386 one under kvm
[07:43] <liw> there's not a whole lot else to do
[08:19] <ara> good morning davmor2
[08:19] <davmor2> Morning ara
[08:21] <liw> my kubuntu dvd i386 oem test went fine
[08:28] <sbeattie> liw: I'm seeing if it will reproduce.
[08:28] <sbeattie> hunh, now it worked fine.
[08:30] <liw> the vagaries of virtualisation...
[08:30] <sbeattie> yeah
[08:34] <davmor2> yay everything bar a re-spin  on a slightly vague arm test
[08:35] <liw> slangasek, are you awake? we've tested everything now, see above
[08:58] <slangasek> liw: woohoo!
[08:59] <slangasek> interesting, the weather report doesn't know this
[09:00] <liw> I spot a netarm image being rebuilt
[09:00] <slangasek> could be it, yes
[09:00] <slangasek> (it's actually 'discarded' rather than 'being rebuilt')
[09:01] <liw> slangasek, so not something that is going to require re-testing?
[09:01] <liw> anything else looming ahead that would require re-testing?
[09:06] <davmor2> fader_: we'm done
[09:09] <davmor2> fader_: Is heno around there yet?
[09:10] <fader_> davmor2: woohoo! :D
[09:10] <fader_> davmor2: He's not -- he went back home last night, so he should be online at some point
[09:10] <fader_> assuming all went well on his drive back
[09:11] <fader_> (Inshallah, knock on wood, etc.)
[09:11] <slangasek> liw: there's nothing looming that we're expecting to need retesting, no
[09:11] <davmor2> fader_: it normally does thank God :)
[09:11] <fader_> :)
[09:12] <davmor2> fader_: yu staying in London for the release Party
[09:12] <fader_> davmor2: Absolutely... wouldn't miss it :)
[09:12] <fader_> davmor2: You're coming, right?
[09:13] <davmor2> I might think about it now.  But for intrepid there were some last minute issues which needed re-testing at the nth hour
[09:14] <fader_> davmor2: Hopefully that won't happen this time!  It'd be nice to meet you in meatspace.
[09:42] <cjwatson> liw: voikko> oh good
[09:44] <cjwatson> slangasek,TheMuso: yeah, shame that there wasn't any pressure to figure out *exactly* what the constraint was until we realised that "fixing" studio to remove ffmpeg entirely was going to be really hard ...
[09:53] <davmor2> Morning heno all done :)
[09:54] <heno> hey davmor2 :)
[11:02]  * fader_ eagerly looks forward to wiping and reinstalling his crufted-up laptop.
[11:29] <davmor2> guys are we going to be changing the names of our isos in order to seed them for bittorrent again?
[12:37]  * ara -> lunch
[13:46] <fader_> One _ down...
[13:49] <liw> hm?
[13:50] <slangasek> tail cropping is inhumane
[13:50] <slangasek> s/cropping/docking/
[13:50] <liw> ach
[14:01] <dtchen> cjwatson: RE: bug 364962, i've attached /var/log/installer/syslog from the kubuntu dvd ubiquity method; do you need anything else before i detach for the day?
[14:01] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 364962 in ubuntu-release-notes "[jaunty] using 20090420.1 alternate or 20090421.2 dvd (any frontend) image results in pulseaudio being installed by default" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/364962
[14:01] <slangasek> dtchen: the bug also says that alternate CDs are affected; we need that too
[14:02] <slangasek> dtchen: can you also confirm that when you said "dist-upgrade", this refers only to apt-get dist-upgrade and not to upgrades using update-manager?
[14:02] <dtchen> slangasek: i only tested apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:02] <slangasek> ok
[14:09] <mvo> dtchen: I just looked at my kubuntu hardy and intrepid upgrade logs and it seems that libpulse gets installed, but nothing more via update-manager
[14:09]  * mvo tries apt-get
[14:13] <dtchen> i've asked maco to attach /var/log/installer/syslog from kubuntu alternate, since i need to return to work
[14:23] <maco> Just looked at Xubuntu daily's list, and PulseAudio's deb is on there too, so this weirdness with Pulse being installed on Kubuntu might be going on there too
[14:26] <davmor2> maco: I thought pulse had been in xubuntu for a while
[14:27] <maco> davmor2: it's not supposed to be
[14:27] <maco> only ubuntu, not kubuntu, xubuntu, or ubuntu-studio
[14:29] <davmor2> maco: studio uses gnome as it's base which uses pulse by default and to will pull it in.  I'm assuming the same is true for xubuntu that uses apps from gnomes base too
[14:29] <davmor2> s/to/so
[14:29] <maco> studio uses gnome, but not pulse. they don't support anyone that adds pulse into the mix
[14:29] <maco> because this version of pulse is not so good with jack
[14:31] <davmor2> maco: pass then
[14:32] <slangasek> presence in .list doesn't mean that it's installed by default
[14:33] <slangasek> near as I can tell, nothing should pull it in by default at install time
[14:33] <slangasek> (but it's a little late for trying to change that now...)
[14:35] <davmor2> right off for train tickets be back latter
[14:40] <maco> slangasek: right, just saying maybe it should be tested to be sure
[14:42] <maco> slangasek: which log file did you need from kubuntu?
[14:43] <slangasek> maco: /var/log/installer/syslog from an alternate install
[14:44] <slangasek> maco: attached to bug #364962, please
[14:44] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 364962 in ubuntu-release-notes "[jaunty] using 20090420.1 alternate or 20090421.2 dvd (any frontend) image results in pulseaudio being installed by default" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/364962
[14:44] <maco> ok. i have an alternate install going right now
[14:45] <maco> wait, do you mean the syslog while still running from the cd, or do you mean after a reboot?
[14:46] <slangasek> they're the same thing, provided that you capture the complete log from the end of the install
[14:46] <slangasek> /var/log/syslog while the installer is running gets copied to /var/log/installer/syslog on the target systemw
[14:50] <maco> ah ok
[15:26] <maco> slangasek: ok, logfile's on the bug
[15:26] <slangasek> cjwatson: ^^
[15:26] <slangasek> maco: thanks
[15:28] <slangasek> maco: this log only shows libpulse0 being installed, not pulseaudio; so that seems to indicate alternate CD installs are ok?
[15:29] <maco> yeah seems like
[15:29] <maco> wow installing really heats that latop up
[16:03] <cjwatson> maco: thanks
[16:04] <cjwatson> so from this it does look like the note about alternate CDs having this problem can be removed from the release notes
[16:08] <slangasek> already done, I think


[03:14]  * Bashing-om greets new blood :D
[03:15]  * Bashing-om greets new blood lp2skyline - that is :D
[03:15] <guiverc> :)
[03:15] <lp2skyline> Heya!
[03:19] <Bashing-om> lp2skyline: I see that you desire to make a  sacrificial offering on the UWN alter ?
[03:19] <lp2skyline> Wh-what does that mean?
[03:21] <guiverc> :)  I think Bashing-om is just happy for another to join us on Ubuntu News..  Bashing-om collects the items found on the gdoc I mentioned yesterday; also copies the final product from gdoc to wiki...
[03:21] <Bashing-om> lp2skyline: Just my feebe attempt at humor and to welcome your contribution to our efforts.
[03:21] <lp2skyline> Aaaah, okay!
[03:22] <guiverc> with regards Ubuntu Women, pleia2 is one of the people that maybe useful to you in that regards  (when available)
[03:22] <lp2skyline> Alright!
[03:22] <lp2skyline> Sounds good
[03:23] <Bashing-om> lp2skyline: Os a long strectch from https://ubottu.com/y/uwnprep to that of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewslett .. All help is so appreciated.
[03:23] <Bashing-om> /Os/Is*
[03:28] <lp2skyline> That's.. a lot of things lol
[03:29] <Bashing-om> lp2skyline: :D Help !
[03:31] <lp2skyline> Yeah but.. how and with what..?
[03:34] <Bashing-om> lp2skyline: Well - for starters;  I do not see all that is happening in our world - If you are aware of something that guiverc or I miss - add it to the Doc // in your spare time give your editorial skills some exercise and see what writting a summary is like --- and then there is always always proof reading - we want what we present to the world as perfect as we can make it.
[03:35] <guiverc> lp2skyline, writing a summary of an article is probably easiest; you can get examples of the summaries looking at prior issues  (ie. from the URL that exists in the gdoc on my-saturday arvo (I'm ~UTC+10 so it's still Friday for Bashing-om) i write a summary in the gdoc.  probably what all of us did in school (a long awhile for some of us)...   Watching as the issue progresses from that summary stage maybe useful to, but summaries are
[03:35] <guiverc> probably a good place to start.
[03:35] <guiverc> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue764  for 2nd last issue, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue765 for latest issue
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[12:21]  * guiverc was without internet during Ubuntu Summit, so missed much (most?) of it
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