[05:53] <Timw> is that what they call mounting
[05:53] <dyrne> vnux: apt-get install linux-source  will grab it i think. in feisty at least
[05:53] <aeenima> im gonna ask one more time then i give up for now
[05:53] <jrib> aeenima: apt-cache policy libfaac-dev
[05:53] <Jewfro-Macabbi> kuma, clam-av
[05:53] <Timw> azul: is that what they call mounting
[05:53] <dkbg> agh whatever
[05:53] <Azul> yes my friend
[05:53] <aeenima> ah jrib =)
[05:53] <vnux> oh thanks
[05:53] <Timw> cool
[05:53] <aeenima> u speak to me =)
[05:53] <aeenima> heh
[05:53] <Azul> that's mounting options thou
[05:53] <jrib> aeenima: ?
[05:53] <kuma> Jewfro-Macabbi: thanks, should I get it from the repository, or should I better download it?
[05:54] <TECHWG>  Can anyone help me with my audio card issue?
[05:54] <sharms> !ask
[05:54] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:54] <Timw> azul, you gusy sorry for acking such basic question but i just need the terminolgy down so i can look it up online
[05:54] <aeenima> jrib: so i can change it?
[05:54] <jmworx> tritium: It's fixed upstream and it's actually fixed in Edgy. What I'm trying to do is getting it fixed in Dapper
[05:54] <TECHWG> !ask
[05:54] <Jewfro-Macabbi> kuma, should be in the repos, try "aptitude search clam" or "clam-av"
[05:54] <jrib> aeenima: what is the output from that command?
[05:54] <TECHWG> i did ask
[05:54] <aeenima> err should i paste it all here?
[05:54] <jrib> !pastebin | aeenima
[05:54] <ubotu> aeenima: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:54] <Azul> Timw, look for 'mounting options /etc/fstab'
[05:54] <kuma> Jewfro-Macabbi: ok, thanks
[05:54] <TECHWG> i gave you a good typed description of my problem
[05:55] <smo> use alsaconf (saved from debian ahaha)
[05:55] <Azul> or maybe read write /etc/fstab
[05:55] <Savage-{> "Can I ask  Question"... "I thingy isn't working right"... "Can you fix it"
[05:55] <TECHWG> I have an Maudio Revolution 5.1 audio card, and it is not letting my my microphone work, i have onboard that i mess the settings up and im just confused
[05:55] <tritium> jmworx: you've been bugging me about something that's fixed?  *sigh*
[05:55] <smo> d know why this scipt has been removed from ubuntu very usefull
[05:55] <VolkerOS> brb kernel panic
[05:55] <seamus7> Timw: here's a good article about fstab and mounting and windows partitions: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?&t=283131
[05:55] <jmworx> justdave: I did not register Speex as a trademark, but I have to admit that in this kind of situation I can sort of understand the asshole attitude Mozilla has with its trademark thing.
[05:55] <Timw> seamus, thanks a bunch
[05:56] <Savage-{> My*
[05:56] <tritium> jmworx: language warning
[05:56] <aeenima> jrib:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6978/
[05:56] <jmworx> tritium: It's not fixed in Dapper, which people will keep installing for a while (isn't that the whole idea of LTS).
[05:56] <TECHWG> any ideas ?
[05:56] <jrib> aeenima: you're not using the package from the ubuntu repositories, that's why your dependencies are all messed up...
[05:57] <aeenima> thats the only one...
[05:57] <jrib> aeenima: so?
[05:57] <jmworx> tritium: Just in case I was too vague: of course it's fixed upstream, since the maintainer
[05:57] <aeenima> so what are u telling me?
[05:57] <tritium> jmworx: I agree that it should be fixed in Dapper, given it's LTS status
[05:58] <jrib> aeenima: I'm explaining why your dependencies can't be met.  If you use ubuntu repositories, it should "just  work"
[05:58] <TECHWG> Who here is really good with ubuntu, and has MSN who can give me some help about my audio problem ?
[05:58] <jmworx> tritium: but can you tell me how?
[05:58] <tritium> jmworx: I'll try to work it
[05:58] <jmworx> tritium: thanks
[05:58] <vegasmcpc> does anybody happen to know the command that will show the uuid of a device?
[05:58] <aeenima> can i somehow tell it to use the correct package name as a dependency or am i out of luck?
[05:59] <kondor21> if i mount a drive to a directory then it over writes the files (or hides em) if I bind does it do the same thing?
[05:59] <vegasmcpc> or better yet, could anybody walk me through adding my new raid 5 array to my /etc/fstab?
[05:59] <jrib> aeenima: you can edit the source package that you have there.  But why would you?  Just use the ubuntu packages
[05:59] <vegasmcpc> the walkthrough i found ignores the /etc/fstab thing
[05:59] <TheGhost> Ok guys, I got a question for ya
[05:59] <tritium> jmworx: it's in universe, so I'll try to address it
[05:59] <TECHWG> Oh irc is not the help i need
[06:00] <aeenima> jrib: but at this point...  im wondering how to resolve it.  remove the alternate repository?
[06:00] <bigredradio> vegasmcpc, what are you unsure about with /etc/fstab
[06:00] <jrib> aeenima: yes
[06:00] <kondor21> !bind
[06:00] <TheGhost> My laptop has a wireless card in it, Network Manager sees the network, but has no bars, and cannot connect
[06:00] <ubotu> bind: Internet Domain Name Server. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:8.4.6-1 (edgy), package size 888 kB, installed size 2092 kB
[06:00] <aeenima> im sure i added it at some point to get some apps installed that were not in the ubuntu repository.
[06:00] <aeenima> ill try removing it.
[06:00] <aeenima> tty
[06:00] <aeenima> ty
[06:00] <TheGhost> Anyone have any ideas?
[06:00] <patbam> hi, are the directories added to the "Places" menu accessible as a file somehow?
[06:01] <Beverage> Hello helpful people! I did "chmod -R 777 /var/www" i want to know how I can undo it and put it back to the original anyone know?
[06:01] <tonyyarusso> Beverage: there isn't really an "undo" for stuff like that...
[06:02] <VolkerOS> fsck master deluxe
[06:02] <aegisthis> yo
[06:02] <Beverage> tonyyarusso, hmm okay maybe there is something else wrong, when i try to open files in firefox it asks me if i want to download them, php and apache are installed properly
[06:02] <TheGhost> So, anyone have an idea as to what my problem is?
[06:02] <patbam> i looked in ~/.gnome2 but i didn't see anything like "bookmarks.xml" or anything along those lines
[06:03] <tonyyarusso> Beverage: Those are completely unrelated, afaik.  I've heard of the second thing before - try searching bugs on LP
[06:03] <Sluff> Any IMAC ubuntu users here???
[06:03] <royel> Beverage: you can use the same command to change the permissions to something with less priviledges, or go in an change each files permission manually..  but there is no UNDO button..
[06:03] <jrib> patbam: /home/jrib/.gtk-bookmarks  maybe?
[06:03] <aeenima> jrim: now a new error, do you think my dependencies are totally out of wack now?
[06:03] <TheGhost> My laptop has a wireless card in it, Network Manager sees the network, but has no bars, and cannot connect
[06:04] <tritium> jmworx: which packages are affected?  Simply speex?
[06:04] <jrib> aeenima: pastebin the error
[06:04] <patbam> jrib: thanks... hmm,  i don't seem to have a .gtk-boomarks
[06:04] <patbam> er, yeah i do
[06:04] <patbam> heh
[06:04] <patbam> jrib: nice, that's it. gracias
[06:04] <jrib> patbam: for the record, I just crated a bookmark with a name like oiusdfaoiuds and grepped for it :)
[06:04] <aeenima> jrim: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6979/
[06:04] <aeenima> err jrib sorry
[06:05] <Jewfro-Macabbi> TheGhost, try checking /etc/network/interfaces
[06:05] <jmworx> tritium: Only Speex. libspeex is fine
[06:05] <tritium> jmworx: okay, thanks.
[06:05] <TheGhost> gksudo gedit
[06:05] <TheGhost> ?
[06:05] <jmworx> i.e. it's only a universe issue
[06:05] <Beverage> thanks all
[06:05] <Jewfro-Macabbi> TheGhost, yeah sudo gedit
[06:06] <chipbuddy> hello chaps
[06:06] <jrib> aeenima: I'm guessing you have the libfaac0 from the outside repo installed?
[06:06] <TheGhost> ok, now what am I looking for?
[06:06] <chipbuddy> i'd just like to say 1) i'm a total noob and 2) i just successfully partitioned and mounted a new hard drive
[06:06] <Jewfro-Macabbi> TheGhost, what do you have for primary network interface?
[06:06] <Beverage> tonyyarusso, wanna explain more about bugs in LP?
[06:07] <aeenima> jrib: probably, see im trying to get the latest version of kino compiled/installed... the kino package on the ubuntu repsitory is too old and has bugs.. ive probably made a mess now
[06:07] <TheGhost> um, how would I find that out?
[06:07] <tonyyarusso> Beverage: Sure.  Most of the info is in here:
[06:07] <tonyyarusso> !bugs | Beverage
[06:07] <ubotu> Beverage: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[06:07] <Beverage> okay thankyoyu
[06:07] <jrib> aeenima: try sudo apt-get install libfaac0=1.24clean-0ubuntu4  to downgrade
[06:07] <tritium> jmworx: right
[06:07] <Jewfro-Macabbi> TheGhost, is there any info in the file you opened?
[06:07] <TheGhost> yes
[06:07] <TheGhost> plenty
[06:07] <aeenima> jrib: k thanks
[06:08] <tonyyarusso> Beverage: You can search for relevant terms to see if anyone's filed something ("firefox php" might be a good start)  Hopefully someone will have posted a fix.
[06:08] <brendan_> Hello. i am trying to install Beryl on a inspiron 6000 laptop running a fresh install of 6.10 (updated). it has a "ATI Technologies Inc M22 [Radeon Mobility M300] " card in it. I followed the instructions on this website "http://lhansen.blogspot.com/2006/10/3d-desktop-beryl-and-xgl-on-ubuntu-edgy.html". The problem i am having is that when i select beryl as my window manager the borders on the windows flash and nothing happens. Running "beryl-xgl"
[06:08] <brendan_>  returns the error "beryl-xgl: No composite extension".
[06:08] <Jewfro-Macabbi> TheGhost, hang on I'm searching for better info
[06:08] <TheGhost> ok, thank you for your helping
[06:08] <aeenima> oh lord its removing cinellera and all sorts of other stuff =(
[06:09] <TheGhost> I'm pretty new to Ubuntu
[06:09] <smo> with ati disable aiglx in xorg use xgl with compsite disabled in the xorg.conf brendan
[06:10] <Jewfro-Macabbi> TheGhost, what kind of card is this? Here's the main networking wiki page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkDevices
[06:10] <TheGhost> I have no idea, it's integrated
[06:10] <brendan_> smo. how do i disable aiglx?
[06:10] <jrib> aeenima: you're suppose top check what it tells you it is going to do before press yes :/
[06:10] <`Jessie|lap> hey
[06:10] <chipbuddy> is there some primer i can look at that will tell me about permissions and groups and users... i want to start organizing my hard drives and media and users... but i want to know the "right" way to do it... and not just munge my way through things
[06:10] <jrib> !permissions | chipbuddy
[06:10] <ubotu> chipbuddy: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[06:11] <`Jessie|lap> isn't there a way to do wpa-psk in ubuntu right from the gui?
[06:11] <Jewfro-Macabbi> TheGhost, okay, you need someone with more knowledge, I did figure out how to get my connection working by wading through that wiki though.
[06:11] <aeenima> jrib: lol oh well heheh it did resolve the issue though, so now i was able to install the library it couldnt prior.  at this point ill just put back what i need that was uninstalled
[06:11] <TheGhost> okey dokey
[06:11] <smo> in  Identifier      "Default Layout" section
[06:11] <smo> write
[06:11] <TheGhost> i'll poke around then
[06:11] <aeenima> jrib: thanks for the help mate, ill fight with it from here.  appreciate it
[06:11] <jrib> aeenima: np
[06:11] <`Jessie|lap> anyone?
[06:11] <TheGhost> thank you for your help
[06:11] <`Jessie|lap> !wpa-psk
[06:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wpa-psk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:11] <smo> Option "aiglx" "false"
[06:12] <smo> then at the end of xorg.conf use Section "extensions" Option "Composite" "Disable" EndSection
[06:13] <snowman3388> hello?
[06:14] <tritium> jmworx: there is a stable release update (SRU) waiting for MOTU verification.  The issue is that we need to find a few motus to test it on 6.06 amd64, which is the hard part
[06:14] <smo> motu soundcards?
[06:15] <snowman3388> I need help editing my /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[06:15] <tritium> smo: no
[06:15] <smo> ok
[06:15] <StoneNote> MOTU's are a team of universe maintainers who have upload privileges and maintain packages that are kept in the universe area of Ubuntu
[06:15] <TheGhost> My laptop has a wireless card in it, Network Manager sees the network, but has no bars, and cannot connect
[06:15] <snowman3388> anyone?
[06:15] <smo> i see
[06:16] <hitmanWilly> snowman3388: whats the prob?
[06:16] <snowman3388> oh thanks
[06:16] <snowman3388> uh
[06:16] <tritium> jmworx: you see that last message?
[06:16] <smo> too far or bad settings on the ap theghost
[06:16] <snowman3388> I've been trying to take out a hard drive but it keeps coming up with an error 21 or error 17
[06:16] <brendan_> I made the changes and running beryl-xgl still results in "No composite extension
[06:16] <brendan_> beryl-xgl: No composite extension
[06:16] <brendan_> "
[06:17] <snowman3388> I put the drive back in but it's still doing it
[06:17] <smo> is ur 3d working normally brendan
[06:17] <smo> without xgl or anything
[06:17] <brendan_> glxgears gives a nice smooth animation
[06:17] <tritium> !enter | brendan_
[06:17] <ubotu> brendan_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:17] <`Jessie|lap> i tried to install network-manager-gnome but now it says it cannot find some required resources
[06:17] <brendan_> sorry
[06:17] <smo> use fglrx or radeon driver?
[06:18] <brendan_> fglrx
[06:18] <smo> whats the resulat of fglrxinfo?
[06:18] <smo> result
[06:18] <mnp> rage.net
[06:18] <snowman3388> hitman?
[06:18] <royel> tritium: I seen it, but I honestly am just glad he seems to have dropped it :)
[06:19] <hitmanWilly> hold up
[06:19] <snowman3388> no problem
[06:19] <tritium> royel: ;)
[06:20] <brendan_> the result is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6980/
[06:20] <smo> wait
[06:20] <fiddo> it 6.1 ok to run on a P 2 128MB ?
[06:20] <pablo_> Hola
[06:20] <pablo_> Saluton
[06:20] <pablo_> Hello
[06:20] <tritium> !es
[06:20] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:20] <smo> ok good brendan
[06:21] <smo> paste your xorg.conf
[06:21] <Fifoxez> how do i install ubuntu on a specific partition of a hard drive? the IDE is only giving me the option to resize the first partition to create space
[06:21] <jrshannon> join #ubuntu-doc
[06:22] <VolkerOS> bots are so smart
[06:22] <brendan_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6981/  is my xorg.conf file
[06:22] <smo> ok
[06:23] <Fifoxez> can i seriously not install this distro on a specific partition?
[06:23] <smo> seems right
[06:23] <smo> sure xgl is running?
[06:23] <royel> Fifoxez: should be able to manually set it
[06:23] <brendan_> smo: how can i check?
[06:23] <fiddo> hello, is it acceptable to install ubuntu on a pentium2 with 128MB ?
[06:24] <smo> ps -a | grep xgl
[06:24] <royel> !alternate | fiddo I would chose this
[06:24] <ubotu> fiddo I would chose this: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[06:24] <brendan_> fiddo: my friend installed ubuntu on a toughbook p2. 192mb ram. she said it was bearable but she preffers fluxbox or something more lightweight.
[06:25] <royel> fiddo: the alternate install cd is recommended for machines that are a bit "underpowered"
[06:25] <brendan_> smo: nothing comes up
[06:25] <smo> ps -aux | grep xgl or Xgl d remember
[06:25] <smo> sorry
[06:25] <tarelerulz> How easy is bit torrent that easy with Ubuntu?
[06:26] <smo> use deluge for torrent it s nice ( for me)
[06:26] <Xenguy> tarelerulz: yah, but then there is protecting your IP
[06:26] <smo> gnomefiles.org search deluge
[06:26] <gop> !tvout
[06:26] <ubotu> For help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)
[06:26] <brendan_> Xgl   xgld    Xgld  all return nothing
[06:26] <VolkerOS> torrents are much faster in ubuntu, that's my impression
[06:26] <Xenguy> tarelerulz: unless that doesn't matter for you
[06:26] <smo> how do you start xgl?
[06:27] <brendan_> 'beryl-xgl'
[06:27] <smo> ok i see
[06:27] <brendan_> and through the diamond menu.
[06:27] <smo> ah ok
[06:27] <smo> pm me
[06:28] <Dr_willis> fiddo,  it may take a long time to install.  and use the alt.install cd. not the live-cd
[06:28] <bushblows> and ideas on how to kill a proccess stuck in 1/0 wait , I have tried " kill pid, kill -INT pid, kill -KILL pid, kill -9 pid, and even ps -ef to kill it parent
[06:29] <smo> look your pm brendan
[06:29] <bushblows> and no matter what i get nothing
[06:29] <Jewfro-Macabbi> bushblows pkill "program name"
[06:29] <royel> bushblows: you could pull the cord :)
[06:29] <bushblows> pkill didnt work
[06:30] <bushblows> the proccess is in state D
[06:30] <valehru> Finally got ndiswrapper working with bcm4310!  yahoo.  Is there any disadvantage to using ndiswrapper?
[06:30] <bushblows> its k3b cd/dvd burning software
[06:30] <Jewfro-Macabbi> my only idea, sorry
[06:30] <Xenguy> bushblows: killall (in linux only)
[06:30] <Xenguy> ?
[06:30] <bushblows> its cool thanks
[06:30] <_fiddo_> Dr_willis, OK. ill use the 'alternate' version - but will it be slow?
[06:30] <Dr_willis> _fiddo_,  you proberly should use a very minimal window manager.. like xfce, or fluxbox
[06:31] <bushblows> yup none of those are working, I am going with the pulling of the cord method
[06:31] <Xenguy> bushblows: with sudo of course
[06:31] <brendan_> smo: i have a window open.
 test
[06:31] <smo> ?
[06:31] <Xenguy> nano: ack
[06:31] <nano> thanks
[06:31] <smo> type Xgl :1 in a terminal to see
[06:32] <bushblows> ya sudo and still nothing
[06:32] <bushblows> i dont get how it froze this hardcore
[06:32] <brendan_> a window opened
[06:32] <smo> grey?
[06:32] <brendan_> yup. like when x starts
[06:32] <Xenguy> brendan_: dapper, or edgy ?
[06:32] <smo> good
[06:32] <smo> yeah
[06:32] <bushblows> later
[06:32] <bushblows> thanks
[06:32] <TheGhost> My laptop has a wireless card in it, Network Manager sees the network, but has no bars, and cannot connect
[06:33] <brendan_> 6.10
[06:33] <TheGhost> the network is extremely close , so it's not range
[06:33] <Xenguy> brendan_: whoops, meant bushblows
[06:33] <smo> need 2 things brendan
[06:33] <smo> add a xgl entry to your gdm
[06:34] <smo> brendan
[06:34] <brendan_> how do i do that? where does the text file go and what goes into it
[06:34] <bigredradio> TheGhost, did you configure the ssid properly
[06:35] <smo> type udo gedit /usr/share/xsessions/xgl.desktop
[06:35] <smo> firest
[06:35] <smo> first*
[06:35] <TheGhost> how do you mean
[06:35] <brendan_> its there.
[06:35] <smo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6983/
[06:35] <bigredradio> TheGhost, A wireless network has a name. essid or ssid as it can be known
[06:35] <smo> copy it in
[06:36] <TheGhost> Mine's called Network
[06:36] <brendan_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6984/
[06:36] <brendan_> thats what was there
[06:36] <brendan_> i replaced it
[06:36] <smo> ok
[06:36] <smo> now
[06:37] <smo> sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/startxgl.sh
[06:37] <smo> then
[06:37] <smo> sudo vi /usr/bin/startxgl.sh
[06:37] <TheGhost> so i'm still confused as to how / what you want me to configure
[06:37] <tritium> !enter | smo
[06:37] <ubotu> smo: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:37] <TheGhost> if you mean configuring the wireless card, then yes, i configured that correctly
[06:37] <brendan_> the chmod said the file doesnt exist
[06:38] <smo> i try
[06:38] <bigredradio> TheGhost, o.k. just checking the basics
[06:38] <smo> ??
[06:38] <TheGhost> lol
[06:38] <smo> reopen the file then push escape :wq       ....
[06:38] <smo> strange
[06:38] <brendan_> when i ran "sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/startxgl.sh" it said the file didnt exist.
[06:38] <TheGhost> the connection name in /etc/network/interfaces is ra0
[06:39] <TheGhost> and it is connected, with bars, but won't really connect to anything
[06:39] <smo> damn i m tired lol
[06:39] <smo> sorry
[06:39] <smo> first
[06:39] <brendan_> its ok
[06:39] <Iphigenia>  Hi! I have lost access to the 'Desktop Menu' both on right click on the desktop and also as an entry on the top left of the screen. Xubuntu Edgy 6.10. Is there a terminal command to reset?
[06:39] <TheGhost> sending packets at about .1KB/s when trying to load a site
[06:39] <smo> sudo vi /usr/bin/startxgl.sh
[06:39] <brendan_> k
[06:39] <smo> and copy it
[06:39] <bigredradio> TheGhost, Go you have a valid ipaddress?
[06:39] <tarelerulz> valehru  where you trying to get wireless card. I have dell with TrueMobile 1180 Internal 802.11b Mini-PCI Card
[06:39] <TheGhost> eh?
[06:40] <bigredradio> TheGhost: ifconfig
[06:40] <Ryiel> greetings
[06:40] <smo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6985/
[06:40] <valehru> tarelerulz, what does lspci give you?  Is it bcm4310?
[06:40] <TheGhost> uh huh, now what
[06:40] <smo> then after saving it use the sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/startxgl.sh  restart gdm and change the sesison type on xgl
[06:40] <smo> normally it will be ok
[06:40] <Ryiel> Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library <-- How do i get rid of this warning message? What's missing? I'm trying to install games. (glest) Thanks in advance
[06:41] <snowman3388> could anyone else help me?
[06:41] <bigredradio> TheGhost: can you ping your router. May just be a routing issue or dns
[06:41] <brendan_> ok i'm gonna try
[06:41] <smo> let me know...
[06:41] <cxuxl> oooh
[06:41] <TheGhost> network is unreachable
[06:41] <smo> do not selct as default for the moment
[06:41] <smo> try before...
[06:42] <cxuxl> anyone got a sec for a network install question?
[06:43] <bigredradio> TheGhost: can you ping the ipaddress that is your wireless adapter?
[06:43] <smo> what cxuxl
[06:43] <TheGhost> I don't know my wireless routers IP
[06:43] <cxuxl> when im trying to find a mirror,  says its a bad archive
[06:44] <smo> ??
[06:44] <cxuxl> trying to find a mirror for the archive
[06:44] <bigredradio> TheGhost: That is what ifconfig will tell you. sudo ifconfig
[06:44] <smo> mirror for?
[06:45] <TheGhost> i'm not seeing any IP addresses in that
[06:45] <Ryiel> No one can tell me whats this message and how to solve it? Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library
[06:45] <cxuxl> u tryiong to instal a game?
[06:45] <Ryiel> cxuxl: yeah, glest
[06:45] <cxuxl> glest???
[06:46] <cxuxl> well
[06:46] <cxuxl> if it is supported under wine
[06:46] <cxuxl> then try that
[06:46] <bigredradio> TheGhost: Then your device is not configured. Try restarting the networking. sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[06:46] <zoidberg> anyone know how i can enable glx driver or something for a G3 powerbook
[06:46] <cxuxl> bc maybe ubuntu doesnt have all the necesary files
[06:46] <Ryiel> yeah, glest is the name of the game. wine? it's a game for linux, why should i need wine cxuxl?
[06:47] <cxuxl> its a game for linux, huh didnt read the site that far
[06:47] <smo> verify the dhcp on the router theghost too...
[06:47] <TheGhost> ok, now what?
[06:47] <Ryiel> Yeah, and i tried to install another games too but i always get this message... :(
[06:47] <smo> if u have it enabled sure...
[06:47] <cxuxl> did you compile it already?
[06:47] <brendan_> smo: didnit  work.  when i log in and select the right session it does nothing and when i select beryl through the diamond menu it gives me a white screen. but the tooltips change as if it was working.
[06:48] <brendan_> had to kill x
[06:48] <Ryiel> cxuxl: its a .run file, i thought i can just run it.
[06:48] <smo> cube working?
[06:48] <brendan_> i dont see anything
[06:48] <brendan_> just white
[06:48] <smo> press ctrl+alt+arrow
[06:48] <brendan_> lemme start it again
[06:48] <smo> ok
[06:49] <smo> strange.. damn white screen bug
[06:49] <bigredradio> TheGhost: Maybe your dhcp is not working. If your device is available, but no ipaddress
[06:49] <TheGhost> it's not
[06:49] <brendan_> now it wont start. the border of my window just flashes and then returns to metacity
[06:49] <TheGhost> my friend told me that before
[06:49] <TheGhost> so I put in the IP, gateway manually
[06:50] <Beverage> how would i go about burning an ISO in ubuntu?
[06:50] <smo> try it when the screen is all white
[06:50] <brendan_> ok
[06:50] <Pelo> Beverage,  gnomebaker
[06:50] <bigredradio> Beverage: apt-get install k3b. It's a great program for burning cds.
[06:50] <LiENUS> the !ipv6 disable doesnt appear to be working..
[06:50] <smo> k3b is old now
[06:51] <root__> lol then what do you use?
[06:51] <smo> use brasero or gnomebaker
[06:51] <root__> brasero?? does it have a plugin for amarok?
[06:51] <smo> don t know
[06:51] <smo> don t think so
[06:51] <brendan_> the cube works
[06:52] <brendan_> i can see tbe beryl logo on top
[06:52] <brendan_> the desktops however are all white.
[06:52] <smo> ok so u have the samn white screen bug
[06:52] <smo> damn*
[06:52] <brendan_> this is when i start it from the menu
[06:52] <Pelo> brendan_,  you are aware there is a beryl channel right ?  #beryl
[06:52] <brendan_> do you recomend i go there?
[06:52] <zoidberg> hey guys i have a VGA -out on my g3 powerbook
[06:52] <smo> i m often on #beryl
[06:53] <TheGhost> so, how would I fix my DHCP problem?
[06:53] <brendan_> i'l go there
[06:53] <zoidberg> how can i enable dual display or something to a monitor hooked up to the powerbook
[06:53] <smo> try change sources of yur bery and xgl
[06:53] <zoidberg> ?
[06:53] <OracleG1> Hello, anyone have any experience installing flash on 64 bit?
[06:53] <Pelo> brendan_,  they just might be more helpfull,  I 'm not shooshing you or anything
[06:53] <smo> use trevino's repository
[06:53] <smo> svn
[06:53] <SilentDis> 'lo :)
[06:53] <zoidberg> can anyone help me
[06:53] <zoidberg> ?
[06:53] <zoidberg> how can i enable dual display or something to a monitor hooked up to the powerbook
[06:53] <bigredradio> TheGhost: first check that the dhcp client is running on your system. Then trouble-shoot your router. Ion your own there)
[06:53] <OracleG1> xinerama zoidberg.
[06:54] <TheGhost> how would I tell if it was running
[06:54] <Pelo> zoidberg,  if no one here responds , try the forum
[06:54] <zoidberg> OracleG1, what is that and would it work for powerpc?
[06:54] <SilentDis> !xinerama | zoidberg
[06:54] <ubotu> zoidberg: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[06:54] <bigredradio> TheGhost: I'm not sure, but I think it's a daemon. try ps -elf
[06:54] <OracleG1> Its for multiple monitors, and worst case it will because you compile it.
[06:55] <TheGhost> oh goodness, lots came up
[06:55] <OracleG1> OK- now. Who out there is running ubuntu on 64 bit?
[06:55] <Beverage> thanks for the K3b!!!! it works fantastic!
[06:55] <yell0w> !dualhead
[06:55] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[06:55] <bigredradio> TheGhost: ps -elf | grep dhcp
[06:56] <TheGhost> one thing came up
[06:56] <bigredradio> It doesn't appear t be a daemon.  Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[06:57] <SilentDis> 3 cheers for auto flood protections :)
[06:57] <Flannel> oh, blargh.  sorry.
[06:57] <Jewfro-Macabbi> TheGhost, did you also enter nameservers?
[06:57] <bigredradio> hip hip huray
[06:57] <TheGhost> nameservers?
[06:57] <airkupo> 3
[06:58] <seamus7> Is NTFS-3G a reliable way of getting read write privileges to a windows partition?
[06:58] <Jewfro-Macabbi> TheGhost, when you entered the I.P. address, there should also be default gateway, and dns nameservers
[06:58] <Hunter4242> Hey, I've got a question about creating a dual-boot setup with ubuntu, can someone help me?
[06:58] <Flannel> seamus7: it's still not 100% safe
[06:58] <SilentDis> seamus7, I wouldn't consider it "production reliable", but home use where it doesn't really matter if you loose data or not... sure.
[06:58] <TheGhost> no, default gatewaut, somekind of over something or other and IP
[06:58] <Flannel> !anyone | Hunter4242
[06:58] <goban> i added the beagle repository and installed it what now?
[06:58] <ubotu> Hunter4242: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:59] <SilentDis> Hunter4242, ask your question :)
[06:59] <seamus7> Flannel SilentDis: what's the danger ... what are the common problems that might arise?
[06:59] <cpk1> seamus7: keep in mind you can read from ntfs no problem
[06:59] <Flannel> seamus7: corruption
[06:59] <Hunter4242> All right, I'm setting up a brand new computer with dual boot, Ubuntu and XP, basically I want to know which i should install first
[06:59] <cpk1> XP
[06:59] <SilentDis> seamus7, corruption problems mostly.  data loss writing to the NTFS partition and such, as they haven't gotten the journalizing (if you can call it that) right yet.
[06:59] <airkupo> whats wrong with dual boot??
[06:59] <airkupo> it works
[07:00] <seamus7> Flannel: as an alternative, would a FAT32 partition allow me to transfer files between ntfs and ext3
[07:00] <Flannel> seamus7: actually, I stand corrected.  Looks like they released a "stable" version today.
[07:00] <Flannel> seamus7: no idea what their definition of "stable" is though
[07:00] <SilentDis> Hunter4242, Windows is my recommendation.  saves you hand-editing a grub list later ;)
[07:00] <cpk1> seamus7: ext would let you transfer between windows and linux =)
[07:00] <FatherTyme> Does anyone have an estimate on the next point release for Dapper?
[07:00] <seamus7> Flannel: I saw the word stable on their site but wondered what that meaned exactly
[07:00] <cpk1> seamus7: you can get an ext driver for windows
[07:00] <Flannel> seamus7: Only they'd know.  Well, they might have info on the site
[07:01] <SilentDis> seamus7, if you need read/write... it's almost better to put the EXT2 drivers into windows, rather than the NTFS drivers into linux.
[07:01] <seamus7> ext is better than FAT32 to use as a go between partition between windows and ubuntu?
[07:01] <q_a_z_steve> What's the latest beta and the codename?
[07:02] <q_a_z_steve> What does LTS stand for???
[07:02] <Hunter4242> All right, thanks. Next question: Will I have to do anything special to get ubuntu to read the extra HD I'm going to use to transfer data over? It's currently NFTS formatted
[07:02] <cpk1> feisty fawn and it's still alpha
[07:02] <SilentDis> seamus7, EXTx is a VERY nice file system.  not perfect, but pretty close imo. I've yet to have major problems with it. :)
[07:02] <Emilius> hi
[07:02] <Hunter4242> NTFS, even
[07:02] <jmworx> tritium: Sorry, was away. So what's the plan to do that. It's been in this state for quite a while
[07:02] <kitche> seamus7: vfat is good also for a go between if you wish
[07:02] <Jewfro-Macabbi> q_a_z_steve, LTS = Long term support
[07:02] <Emilius> Can anyone explain me the difference between "recommended" and "proposed" updates? I saw it nowhere in any manual...
[07:02] <cpk1> Hunter4242: you can read it just fine but writing to ntfs isnt really recommended
[07:02] <tritium> elkbuntu: already did that
[07:02] <SilentDis> q_a_z_steve, Ubuntu 7.04 (Fiesty Fawn) ALPHA Herd4.  check out #ubuntu+1 :)
[07:02] <q_a_z_steve> 6.06 lts I guess...
[07:03] <seamus7> SilentDis: sorry ext? ... i know ext3 of course ... which do you mean...
[07:03] <Hunter4242> I don't plan to write to it, it's just faster than burning CDs will all my data
[07:03] <airkupo> anyone here done a network install b4??
[07:03] <SilentDis> seamus7, EXT3 is EXT2 with journalizing.  EXT2 windows drivers can read/write to EXT3 fine, just without updating the journal.
[07:03] <cpk1> seamus7: therre is ext2 (no journaling) and ext3 (journaling) you can mount an ext3 file system as ext2 since it is backwards compatable
[07:03] <q_a_z_steve> what's herd?
[07:03] <Flannel> Hunter4242: readnig NTFS is plenty fine.  Ubuntu should do it by default
[07:03] <cpk1> compatible*
[07:04] <airkupo> old release
[07:04] <Joseph_Ponte> ?
[07:04] <airkupo> err new
[07:04] <seamus7> ...and ext2 allows me to read and write from both windows and linux?
[07:04] <Flannel> q_a_z_steve: a herd is a group of Fawns, in this case, each pre-release is designated as a "herd"
[07:04] <SilentDis> Hunter4242, what Flannel said.  if you don't need to write, Linux reads NTFS without issue.
[07:04] <cpk1> seamus7: if you get the windows driver for it, yes
[07:04] <Joseph_Ponte> hi everybody, Do you know how to install ububtu in USB?
[07:04] <airkupo> ext2 is good for grub, bc easy to recover, you dont wont your main FS on that...
[07:04] <goban> how come beagle isnt finding anything?
[07:04] <SilentDis> seamus7, yes.  there's drivers available for Windows to let you read/write to an EXT2 or 3 file system
[07:05] <Hunter4242> All right. Thanks for the help everyone.
[07:05] <SilentDis> Joseph_Ponte, LOL!  I just was reading up on that myself!  let me grab you linkages :)
[07:05] <Matthai> Joseph_Ponte, there are good tutorials for that, Google it.
[07:05] <airkupo> why would you want windows being able to write to ur linux??
[07:05] <airkupo> thast just saying hey, rape me
[07:05] <seamus7> SilentDis: is it reliable ... more so than NTFS-3G???
[07:05] <SilentDis> airkupo, I never said it was a good idea ;)  but some people want to do it :)
[07:06] <airkupo> lol
[07:06] <SilentDis> Joseph_Ponte, check this page out: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[07:06] <seamus7> airkupo: sometimes I download things by mistake onto windows and then realize i meant it for linux/unbuntu
[07:06] <snowman3388> you guys know you want to help me
[07:06] <Jewfro-Macabbi> seamus7, in my experience, it's best to write files in the native system only, ie drag windows files to linux from linux. Or drag linux files to windows from windows. check out: Explore2fs-1.08beta9
[07:06] <airkupo> silent you got any tips for a network install?
[07:06] <Flannel> !install | airkupo
[07:06] <ubotu> airkupo: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[07:07] <airkupo> i have looked
[07:07] <SilentDis> seamus7, if that's the case, Ubuntu reads NTFS without trouble right from the get-go.  you don't need to write to EXT2 at all.  it's just another 'feature' if you want it :)
[07:07] <airkupo> thast why i intsllaed this irris to get here >.<
[07:07] <raygan>  Hey, I'm a relative newbie with some install questions, is anybody here willing to try and give me a hand?
[07:08] <snowman3388> help me too!
[07:08] <SilentDis> raygan, always.  just ask your question, don't bother asking to ask it :)
[07:08] <Victorr> hello all, does anyone know how to convert OGG files to MP3?
[07:08] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Victorr, try the program "sound converter"
[07:08] <seamus7> SilentDis: you're right of course .. i forgot that ... what about a usb flash drive ... would i need to format it in a specifric go between file system to be able ot move files in between operating systems?
[07:09] <vnux> erm, I'm trying to compile wlan-ng and I just did a apt-get install linux-sources-2.6.17 and it tells me this...any ideas?
[07:09] <vnux> Linux source tree /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.17/ is incomplete or missing!
[07:09] <vnux>     The kernel header files are present, but not  the full source code.
[07:09] <vnux>     See the HOWTO for a list of FTP sites for current kernel sources.
[07:09] <seamus7> raygan: what's the question?
[07:09] <Victorr> Jewfro-Macabbi, thanks for the pointer!
[07:09] <SilentDis> seamus7, I still use FAT32 for my pendrives, just for portable compatiblity (I can go from win95b/win98/winnt/winxp/winvista/linux/mac/etc with ease that way)
[07:10] <seamus7> SilentDis: good idea .. i was wondering what people do .. that makes sense
[07:10] <raygan> ok, here goes. I've installed Ubuntu on a partition and have been able to boot to it, but I'm not able to use the keyboard or mouse to get past he login screen. This seems odd to me because I was able to use the keyboard to do the install (i used the text based install)
[07:10] <raygan> I've tried another mouse
[07:10] <snowman3388> I'm having trouble with grub it comes up with an error 21 or error 17 when grub starts. I was editing my /etc/fstab file would that do anything?
[07:10] <SilentDis> !build-essential | vnux
[07:10] <ubotu> vnux: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:10] <Jewfro-Macabbi> snowman3388, yes that might do something... what did you do
[07:10] <snowman3388> I was trying to take out a hard drive that was dying
[07:10] <Savage-{> I just thought of a solution for windows apps for linux... setup a Windows 2003 Server with Terminal Services and run windows applications through the Terminal Client in linux
[07:11] <SilentDis> raygan, usb keyboard/mouse?
[07:11] <Savage-{> that should work
[07:11] <raygan> no it's not USB
[07:11] <Jewfro-Macabbi> snowman3388, is there a backup of your etc/fstab? look for one with a ~ after the filename?
[07:11] <raygan> neither the keyboard nor the mouse is USB
[07:11] <SilentDis> !who | raygan
[07:11] <ubotu> raygan: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[07:11] <snowman3388> yeah I made one a long time ago
[07:11] <snowman3388> I restored it but I still can't get it to boot
[07:12] <SilentDis> raygan, both are PS2?
[07:12] <raygan> SilentDis: yes, both are PS2
[07:12] <airkupo> ubotu: can u actually lend a hand instead of websites??
[07:12] <Jewfro-Macabbi> snowman3388, sounds like you've got some issue with your etc/fstab file
[07:12] <Rhynri> hey, i got a quick question.  I set up my Samsung CLP-510 (i dunno if i did it right or not) but now it shows up, however when i send print jobs to it, it says the jobs are stopped.
[07:12] <airkupo> i dont know how to change windows for PMs
[07:13] <airkupo> T.T
[07:13] <snowman3388> can I pm you jewfro?
[07:13] <SilentDis> raygan, only thing I can think of is a mucked xorg.conf or the like... which is REALLY odd.  did you make any recent changes in that regard?
[07:13] <SilentDis> airkupo, those websites are actually a LOT of help usually.  that's why ubotu hands them out :)
[07:14] <Jewfro-Macabbi> snowman3388, this is a bit out of my knowledge range. I can only advice you to do a "sudo fdisk - l" find your primary hdd, and make sure that's still listed in your fstab file
[07:14] <airkupo> um, ya ive been there. Thast why im here...
[07:14] <karsten> Anyone with a stock install can tell me how many packages are installed by default?  W/ and w/o libs.  'dpkg --get-selections | awk '$2 == "install" | wc -l; dpkg --get-selections | gawk '$2 == "install" && $1 !~ "^lib"' | wc -l
[07:14] <snowman3388> I think it is but I'll play around with it some more and mess it up;)
[07:15] <SilentDis> karsten, sorry, my 'stock installs' last all of 4 minutes usually.  I'll be of no help :(
[07:15] <Jewfro-Macabbi> snowman3388, check the wiki page for a default configuration to go by.
[07:15] <ardchoille> SilentDis: hahaha, mine last less than that.
[07:15] <muuhBDX> can i have basic programs working in linux ?
[07:15] <karsten> SilentDis: Isn't the stock install defined via a tasksel or set of same?
[07:16] <muuhBDX> vbasic
[07:16] <SilentDis> karsten, nooooo i'm on dialup, it takes ages!  lol
[07:16] <ardchoille> muuhBDX: No
[07:16] <karsten> muuhBDX: Maybe.
[07:16] <snowman3388> jewfro, it's just that I have three hard drives and I'm not sure if everything corresponds to the right drive or not
[07:16] <SilentDis> karsten, well... the desktop is.  (ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop, etc)... not sure if the base OS is or not.
[07:16] <yell0w> !mono
[07:16] <ubotu> mono: Mono CLI (.NET) runtime. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu7.1 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB
[07:16] <karsten> muuhBDX: http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2007/02/21/visual_basic_mono_linux/
[07:16] <muuhBDX> isnt that leegal ?
[07:16] <yell0w> !mono | muuhBDX
[07:16] <ubotu> muuhbdx: please see above
[07:17] <karsten> SilentDis: Dig.
[07:17] <snowman3388> jewfro, it looks right to me but it's the only thing that I think could be wrong with it
[07:17] <muuhBDX> isnt vbasic MS ?
[07:17] <ardchoille> yell0w: I don't believe vb apps can run in Linux even with mono
[07:17] <karsten> muuhBDX: There's an announced-today Novell project supporting vb w/ Mono.
[07:17] <muuhBDX> is i made one program MS is gona sue me
[07:17] <karsten> ardchoille: ^^
[07:18] <ardchoille> karsten: I wouldn't buy/use a product from a traitor company
[07:18] <karsten> ardchoille: I wouldn't pay 'em money at this point if I could help it.
[07:18] <karsten> ardchoille: ... but their free software is as green as anyone elses.
[07:18] <ardchoille> Is it from Novell?
[07:18] <karsten> ardchoille: RTFL
[07:18] <muuhBDX> can i use this Mono vbasic on other distros other then suse with out being sued ?
[07:19] <ardchoille> VB is a product from M$ and I refuse to use their crap.
[07:19] <yell0w> muuhBDX, I believe so. check mono's licence
[07:19] <karsten> muuhBDX: Gee, I didn't realise this was #novell-legal-department.
[07:19] <SilentDis> karsten, wait a min...  there's not much difference between the live CD and a base install... try booting off that and counting :)
[07:19] <karsten> muuhBDX: Why don't you check with Novell on that?
[07:19] <karsten> SilentDis: Hrm.
[07:19] <karsten> SilentDis: I was hoping someone else would do the dirty work ;-)
[07:20] <SilentDis> karsten, lol
[07:20] <fullmetal> hi
[07:20] <SilentDis> karsten, you'll be off by 5-10 or so... but it'll give you a pretty close picture of it.
[07:20] <bfdhud_> I'm having a weird firefox issue, While i'm browsing the internet the browser will lockup and the browser window goes grey (kind of like when you log out of a vbulleting BB). After a few minutes it will give me the option to force quit
[07:20] <fullmetal> anyone got a sec for an install?
[07:20] <snowman3388> by chance would mounting my linux drive from the ubuntu live cd mess up my /etc/fstab file?
[07:20] <bfdhud_> none of my settings have changed recently, This literally just started today
[07:20] <karsten> SilentDis: I'd have to find a livecd and reboot.  But that could happen.
[07:20] <karsten> snowman3388: No.
[07:21] <bfdhud_> when I booted up after school, anyone have any ideas?
[07:21] <fullmetal> is there a reason why i would be gettin a bad arciove mirror?
[07:21] <karsten> bfdhud_: There's a word for that.
[07:21] <fullmetal> archive
[07:21] <karsten> bfdhud_: It's a bug.
[07:21] <ardchoille> karsten: lol
[07:22] <SilentDis> bfdhud_, something get caught in the cache or the like?  have you tried clearing it recently?  some other app causing issue maybe, tried restarting GDM and/or a reboot?
[07:22] <Victorr> snowman3388, grub panics when it doesn't find a partition it knows about, I have had the same happen to me.  Sadly I have no solution for you, other than restoring your configuration to what it was.  Try reading on grub.
[07:22] <karsten> bfdhud_: What if any extensions do you have in FF?  What specific URLs are showing that behavior?  Try disabling extensions, javascript, java, plugins, see if any of those fix the problem.
[07:22] <karsten> bfdhud_: Note that FF may upgrade extensions with relatively little notice.
[07:22] <snowman3388> victorr-thanks, could I just # out everything except my main hd, would I have better luck getting it to work that way?
[07:23] <karsten> bfdhud_: You might also check your syslogs for any sig11 or Northbridge errors.
[07:23] <ardchoille> Is there an app that can take apart a. mpeg so the user can remove frames?
[07:23] <karsten> ardchoille: Might try one of the video editors.
[07:23] <SilentDis> bedtime for me.  g'night all :)
[07:23] <karsten> ardchoille: Eg:  Kino.
[07:23] <bfdhud_> SilentDis, Karsten I don't know about the cache, I have not installed any other app in over a week, I have completely powered off and powered back on still did it. My FF extensions were adblock plus and gmail notifier, it did it for every url randomly. digg, tribalwar, bleach exile.
[07:23] <Victorr> snowman3388, I do not know, I'm pretty ignorant on grub.. after my incident, I decided to stick with lilo :-)
[07:24] <bfdhud_> If this was a windows PC I would think I had a virus
[07:24] <snowman3388> okay thanks
[07:24] <karsten> bfdhud_: Try launching under strace then.  You're going to want to log output, and there's going to be absolutely tons of it.
[07:24] <bfdhud_> Karsten I have no idea what under strace means, I'm a noob
[07:25] <karsten> bfdhud_: You can also attach gdb to the process, but without debugging symbols (eg:  if 'file <path>/firefox-bin' tells you it's a stripped ELF binary there's not much good'.
[07:25] <karsten> bfdhud_: 'man strace'.
[07:25] <karsten> bfdhud_: trace system calls made by an executable.
[07:25] <karsten> bfdhud_: Basically tells you what a given process is doing.
[07:25] <lovloss> if i want to start learning opengl, what is the library i should dl? sudo apt-cache search opengl  lists so many libraires; anyone know whats a good one?
[07:26] <karsten> bfdhud_: Alternately, you can launch FF, and attach strace to its PID when it's hung and see what it's doing.  Again, copious output, but less than if you launch FF.
[07:26] <bfdhud_> so strace firefox-bin?
[07:26] <karsten> bfdhud_: Sec.
[07:26] <Victorr> lovloss, probably mesa, but that is just a wild guess
[07:26] <karsten> bfdhud_: Launch FF normally.
[07:27] <lovloss> ok
[07:27] <bfdhud_> done
[07:27] <Victorr> bfdhud_, don't bother, or at least not yet, first use firefox as another user, and see if you get the same problems...
[07:27] <karsten> bfdhud_: ps waux | awk '/[f] iref/ {print $2}'
[07:27] <karsten> bfdhud_: ... gives you the PID.  Should be one value.
[07:28] <karsten> bfdhud_: 'strace -p <PID>'
[07:28] <bfdhud_> looks like an infinite loop going across my terminal window
[07:29] <bfdhud_> Victorr I am the only user, should I create a new one to test this
[07:29] <Victorr> bfdhud_ yes
[07:29] <ardchoille> karsten: Thanks, I see pino and pitivi in the repos. Visited both homepages, saw that kino has won many awards.
[07:29] <karsten> ardchoille: kino is pretty good, I've used it a little.
[07:30] <ardchoille> karsten: Ah, yeah, ok
[07:31] <MybEvil_> I can program in java, on ubuntu can't I?
[07:31] <bauer77> MybEvil_: yes
[07:31] <MybEvil_> ok, thanks
[07:31] <bauer77> MybEvil_: you can program in just about anything
[07:32] <MybEvil_> C++?
[07:32] <bauer77> yes
[07:32] <bauer77> perl, python, etc etc
[07:32] <snowman3388> if I have 3 ide drives, hda hdb and hdc. If I take out hdb will hdc become hdb?
[07:33] <meangirls> heloo guys
[07:33] <snowman3388> by take out I mean physically take out of my computer
[07:33] <karsten> bfdhud_: Can launch that under strace but it's a bit complicated w/ firefox in particular.
[07:33] <karsten> snowman3388: No.
[07:33] <snowman3388> it stays the same?
[07:33] <meangirls> helow...?
[07:33] <karsten> snowman3388: Drives are assigned by which ATA controller/cable they're on.
[07:34] <snowman3388> oh good thanks a lot
[07:34] <karsten> snowman3388: Well, if it doesn't change, what options does that leave you with?
[07:34] <bauer77> hello meangirls
[07:34] <snowman3388> karsten, what do you mean?
[07:34] <eelmoo> Hello
[07:34] <eelmoo> investigating
[07:34] <karsten> snowman3388: What I say.
[07:35] <snowman3388> karsten, I think it means I don't know what's wrong?
[07:35] <meangirls> helo bauer77 .nice name
[07:35] <bfdhud_> Karsten I reinstalled FF and cleared the cache. So far so good, but i'm doing some heavy surfing to see if its fixed
[07:35] <snowman3388> I'll be back soon enough if it doesn't work
[07:35] <snowman3388> thanks a lot
[07:36] <karsten> bfdhud_: One other trick is to remove your profile (just renaming it is enough), restart FF, and see if that fixes the problem.
[07:36] <karsten> bfdhud_: Often there's something in your profile that's bugging FF.  Move a few files back at a time to see which causes the problem.
[07:37] <vnux> whats the package where I can find stdlib.h an stdio.h ?
[07:37] <crimsun> libc6-dev
[07:37] <vnux> and*
[07:37] <vnux> thx
[07:37] <karsten> vnux: aptitude search <term>
[07:38] <bfdhud_> karsten thaks, I'll see what I can do. I'm glad to know its FF fault and not ubuntu. I don't think i could afford another re install
[07:38] <vnux> karsten, even for file names inside the package?
[07:38] <meangirls> huei... does anybody read me..
[07:38] <karsten> bfdhud_: This is Linux.  Reinstalls aren't required.
[07:38] <bfdhud_> hmm spoke to soon
[07:38] <karsten> vnux: apt-cache is your friend.
[07:38] <bfdhud_> still borked
[07:38] <vnux> didn't know it did this
[07:39] <karsten> vnux: ... erm, apt-file, I mean, I think....
[07:39] <vnux> k
[07:39] <elkbuntu> tritium, sorry, couldnt see it in the ban list
[07:39] <karsten> vnux: Yeah, apt-file, or oddly enough, auto-apt, which has an even faster find feature.
[07:39] <vnux> YESSSSSSSS!!!
[07:39] <vnux> I got it!
[07:39] <vnux> thanks
[07:40] <tritium> elkbuntu: :)
[07:40] <vnux> damn, bad thing to "I'm sure I have the default C libs...come on"
[07:40] <karsten> That's Ubuntu with a twm desktop....
[07:40] <bauer77> bfdhud_: thats why a image is grand :-)
[07:40] <elkbuntu> tritium, you hit a different hostmask to me
[07:40] <meangirls> hix hix...
[07:41] <tritium> elkbuntu: you're right
[07:42] <elkbuntu> tritium, in fact, i can see you op then deop without enforcing a ban, so im guessing you missed :-/
[07:42] <bfdhud_> This is really frustrating
[07:42] <tritium> elkbuntu: he was gone, but the ban should be there
[07:43] <tarelerulz> I want to know how easy it is to use bit torrent in  ubuntu . The reason Is I have friend I would like to get into linux ,but he is hard sale
[07:43] <rb007> I've used Konqueror for FTP and like it... I just reinstalled Dapper and now for some reason it won't FTP (can't connect).  Is there something you have to do to Konqueror in GNOME to get it to FTP?
[07:43] <bauer77> same as windows tarelerulz
[07:43] <phaedra> tarelerulz,  Very easy.
[07:44] <bauer77> personally I think its better than windows
[07:44] <shorty114> bauer77, really?
[07:44] <shorty114> i miss utorrent when i use linux
[07:44] <shorty114> azureus is heavyweight
[07:44] <puki> hi
[07:44] <defrysk> shorty114, try ktorrent
[07:44] <bauer77> I just seem to get better speeds
[07:45] <raygan> does anyone know the meaning of "Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block 114924something"  when trying to boot the livecd?
[07:45] <defrysk> shorty114, go to ktorrent.org for the latest package for your distro
[07:45] <shorty114> defrysk, i'll have to check that out, thanks
[07:45] <tarelerulz> So Ktorrent has all the normal stuff you would want
[07:46] <defrysk> ktorrent is a proper basic utorrent one could say
[07:46] <shorty114> tarelerulz, it's the basic torrent client. if you want there's azureus
[07:46] <shorty114> which is common with windows users too
[07:46] <tarelerulz> That is good
[07:47] <tarelerulz> I may get him over to linux one day
[07:47] <tarelerulz> He is really picky and not wanting something to work on
[07:47] <tarelerulz> all the reason I like linux
[07:48] <tarelerulz> I don't think the torrent would be easy enough
[07:48] <ledemente> Hello everyone, I'm having a rather big issue with Ubuntu.
[07:49] <tarelerulz> What man
[07:49] <tarelerulz> I wish I could get my wireless card
[07:49] <sexxy> really..
[07:49] <ledemente> I can't get past the second boot stage, mounting root. or something
[07:50] <tarelerulz> and Nothing seems to work
[07:50] <ledemente> Three other times I've had this happen and I had to reinstall and I lost data.
[07:50] <sexxy> hello ledemente.. nice nick name..
[07:50] <ledemente> tarelerulz: are you talking to me?
[07:50] <ledemente> sexxy: thankyou. o_O
[07:51] <tarelerulz> I am just talking out load
[07:51] <ledemente> Oh.
[07:51] <sexxy> ledemente: you're welcome.. hehehe..
[07:51] <tarelerulz> I am really lost on the wireless card
[07:51] <ledemente> So, I can't seem to get past that stage, except if I go to rescue mode. But then it finds disk errors.
[07:51] <tarelerulz> I think I am going to go to ndiswrapper room and ask them
[07:51] <ledemente> Even though I've reinstalled 3 times.
[07:52] <tarelerulz> If I get that working
[07:52] <sexxy> all: guys, what are you talking about  ?
[07:52] <ledemente> I'm just asking for help getting my box running again.
[07:52] <ledemente> I can't even use a live CD, it pauses at the same stage.
[07:53] <Byan> does anyone know of a way to automatically change a site from black on white to white on black?
[07:53] <sexxy> ledemente:wahat a pitty..
[07:53] <ledemente> sexxy, do you enjoy using too many letters? ; )
[07:54] <ledemente> Byan... I believe you're in the wrong room.
[07:54] <sexxy> ledemente: hm.. yes i do
[07:54] <ledemente> I can't look this up on google either.
[07:54] <sexxy> byan: why you can in the wrong room.
[07:55] <pavs_> Offtopic question: Anyone know how much RHCE and RHCT exam costs to take?
[07:55] <bestadvocate> hello
[07:55] <puki> who cares of RHCE something?
[07:56] <ledemente> Oh! and although it doesn't do it anymore, it used to take way too long to find the drives on bootup.
[07:56] <pavs_> puki its a question you dont have to care about it. I do care however.
[07:56] <bestadvocate> Hey I was just running feisty, is feisty talk supposed to be in a diffrent channel?
[07:56] <puki> did linus or rms pass the RHCE?
[07:56] <ledemente> sexxy, welcome back.
[07:57] <madhenry> How can I install the .rpm packages?
[07:57] <ledemente> alien
[07:57] <bestadvocate> i doubt rms would go through rhce....
[07:57] <pavs_> why does them passing or not passing anything has anything to do with me? Did they get laid when they were young? I dont know I dont care. whats your point?
[07:57] <sexxy> ledemente: hehehe...
[07:57] <xerroz> is there some way i can install ubuntu on top of an already existing ubuntu? (looking to setup a system to debug)
[07:58] <ledemente> Is there perhaps a way to rescue a damaged disk?
[07:58] <Byan> err, yeah, oops
[07:58] <Byan> wrong window
[07:58] <bestadvocate> xerroz: you could try upgrading?
[07:58] <sexxy> ledemente : where are you now.?
[07:58] <ledemente> I'm under rescue mode, I can only use the CL.
[07:59] <xerroz> bestadvocate: why would i want to upgrade? i want to setup a system so i can debug it..
[07:59] <bestadvocate> xerroz: oh i thought... well never mind then
[07:59] <madhenry> Does anyone know how to install .rpm packages in ubuntu?
[07:59] <ledemente> madhenry ALIEN!
[07:59] <xerroz> bestadvocate: hey not a problem =)
[07:59] <puki> haha
[07:59] <unop> puki,  why would they ever need a RHCE? :) they really don't need it because they arent system administrators .. what a question?
[07:59] <sexxy> madhenry: i don't know
[08:00] <madhenry> sexxy, why?
[08:00] <puki> if they needn't, why do we need?
[08:00] <ledemente> madhenry, why what?
[08:00] <sexxy> madhenry, what do you mean why?
[08:00] <ledemente> puki, shut up. What you're saying is stupid.
[08:00] <monzie> hi all
[08:00] <madhenry> omg :D
[08:00] <madhenry> is it possible?
[08:00] <puki> -_-
[08:00] <monzie> i am configured the fglrx driver as per the ubuntu wiki instructions
[08:00] <bestadvocate> Does anyone else have a problem with the Restricted kernels not being automatically loaded into the Grub configuration when installed in Feisty?
[08:00] <sexxy> madhenry, yeah.. i'm comfuse
[08:01] <unop> puki,  because we (metaphorically) have to prove our competency
[08:01] <monzie> yet the command "fglrx" produces the info
[08:01] <sexxy> monzie, hi..
[08:01] <monzie> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[08:01] <madhenry> sexxy, i'm the one who should be confused :D
[08:01] <monzie> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[08:01] <monzie> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[08:01] <monzie> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[08:01] <monzie> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.1)
[08:01] <monzie> hi sexxy
[08:01] <sexxy> madhenry, hehehehe...
[08:01] <tritium> !enter | monzie
[08:01] <ubotu> monzie: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:01] <sexxy> hi monzie, how r u..
[08:02] <pavs_> I am serious about going for a career as system admin, I am still in college and trying to learn more everyday. Thats why I wanted to know about RHCE, to make my resume look "preety"
[08:02] <monzie> sexxy: fine.
[08:02] <madhenry> sexxy, but please tell me how to install .rpm packages
[08:02] <madhenry> :D
[08:02] <monzie> madhenry: use alien to convert rpm to .deb
[08:02] <monzie> and then install them
[08:02] <QRZ> madhenry: You need to install the alien package.
[08:02] <puki> maybe, unpack it?
[08:02] <sexxy> madhenry.. alien
[08:02] <wilburthewino> hello all
[08:02] <Lunis> well, this may or may not be the place to ask this but... I'm trying to copy some existing Maildir files from one server to a new one with a fresh postfix/courier/mysql server... everything's working ok except i can't see any of the old folders... any suggestions?
[08:02] <madhenry> sexxy, thanks.. now I get it
[08:02] <QRZ> madhenry: sudo apt-get install alien
[08:03] <sexxy> monzie, where are you know
[08:03] <puki> you should get the source first
[08:03] <VolkerOS> crashhhhhh
[08:03] <unop> madhenry,  you should try finding a .deb for the particular package first
[08:03] <monzie> sexxy: i am in bangalore
[08:03] <sexxy> madhenry, you're welcome
[08:03] <monzie> sexxy: do i know you?
[08:03] <puki> I don't use any pre-compiled stuff
[08:03] <notsmack> i can't get networkmanager to work with my wpa network...
[08:03] <sexxy> monzie, wow.. bangalore.. nice to meet u
[08:03] <monzie> could someone please help me out with a display driver problem please?
[08:03] <con-man> !botabuse | ubotu
[08:03] <ubotu> ubotu: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[08:03] <monzie> sexxy: and where do you stay?
[08:03] <con-man> lolololol
[08:03] <unop> monzie,  sexxy -- please move this conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:04] <sexxy> monzie, i don;t know u and u don't know me
[08:04] <syntaxx> im looking for a way that i could find the file size of all the files that have been found by find / -mtime -3 but putting -exec du -chL {} is showing the total of each file found not the grand total anyone here who can help me?
[08:04] <wilburthewino> but  im has a  a  buzzzzzy  bee  lol
[08:04] <sexxy> monzie i'm in indonesia
[08:04] <sexxy> unop, how r u..
[08:04] <unop> syntaxx,  man du (for the -s flag)
[08:06] <syntaxx> unop: yeah it shows the file found size not the grand total of all files that have been found
[08:06] <monzie> could someone please tell me how to get 3d acceleration going in amd64? i have ATI radeon xpress 200M
[08:06] <notsmack> networkmanager asks for the key, but then just does its spinner for a while then asks for the key again.  any way to get more information?
[08:06] <wilburthewino> anyone  have  any  details  on  ubuntu s   top  side    ie  windows  graphics  that  sort  a thing
[08:07] <autoexec> monzie, there is a how to in the forums
[08:07] <monzie> autoexec: i have followed that line by line!
[08:07] <unop> syntaxx,   du -c | grep -i total   or du -s
[08:07] <autoexec> i have the same card in my laptop, so it is possible, u just gotta experiment a bit
[08:08] <wilburthewino> if  you use  the new  mepis  is  the  command  line  stuff  different
[08:08] <monzie> autoexec: could you just paste your xorg.conf somewhere please?
[08:08] <autoexec> where
[08:08] <tritium> !paste
[08:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:08] <autoexec> ok
[08:09] <autoexec> hang on
[08:09] <syntaxx> unop: yeah but find -mtime -2 -exec du -ch {} ;\ will produce a file found because of {} if i removed the {} it will go into continous loop
[08:09] <wilburthewino> anyone  care  to comment  on the mepis  distro  going to  ubuntu
[08:10] <syntaxx> unop: and adding -c to du will show the size of each file found not the grand total of all the files
[08:10] <wilburthewino> hmmmm  anyone??
[08:10] <autoexec> monzie: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7000/
[08:10] <monzie> wilburthewino: you can probably ask in #mepis
[08:11] <monzie> autoexec: thanks a ton!
[08:11] <wilburthewino> monzie
[08:11] <wilburthewino> id think it  would be just a swell to ask here
[08:11] <unop> syntaxx,  ehh? thats not what i see here
[08:11] <madhenry> I'm having a lot of dependency problems when trying to install packages... Does anyone know how to fix that?
[08:11] <tritium> Please, no surveys, wilburthewino
[08:12] <wilburthewino> im wondering  about that   as well
[08:12] <syntaxx> unop: try the command find / -mtime -3 -exec du -ch {} \;
[08:12] <unop> syntaxx,  how about this? it seems to work  find . -mtime -2 -exec du -ch {} \+;
[08:12] <wilburthewino> trit  im wondering about  dependency problems
[08:12] <wilburthewino> using  mepis
[08:12] <monzie> autoexec: which laptop do you have ?
[08:12] <monzie> madhenry: what sort of problems, could you please put up the output in the pastebin?
[08:12] <wilburthewino> are  their dependency problems  using  new  mepis with  ubuntu???
[08:13] <autoexec> the general model is a compaq presario v2000
[08:13] <madhenry> monzie: pastebin?
[08:13] <autoexec> do you want the specific name?
[08:13] <monzie> autoexec: thanks. i'm on a HP nx6325 here
[08:13] <syntaxx> unop: woah it works! thanks!
[08:13] <unop> syntaxx,  why are you using -h to du there, you're wasting cycles and increasing output -- if you want a grand total, use du -s or du -c
[08:13] <monzie> autoexec: i just wanted to check if the screen size is ok
[08:13] <autoexec> its doing the right res and ratio
[08:13] <syntaxx> unop: -h is for human readable size right?
[08:14] <syntaxx> unop: i missed the + though
[08:14] <unop> syntaxx, sorry -c i mean -- not -h
[08:14] <wilburthewino> glad    ubuntu  people  are  so  friendly  tells  me     just  what  to expect  of the  new  mepis  distro
[08:14] <unop> yea -h = human readable
[08:14] <Mena> how to make loading karamba themes doesnt appear in the taskbar
[08:15] <wilburthewino> ill pass  it  on  to my  readers
[08:15] <syntaxx> unop: it works now thanks a lot! its been 2 days since i started this problem heh
[08:15] <unop> syntaxx, yw :)
[08:16] <monzie> autoexec: you have 1280x768 while mine can do only 1024x768
[08:16] <autoexec> monzie: just cut those modes out then
[08:16] <slipstream3d> hello, anyone here use Squid on Ubuntu Server?
[08:17] <monzie> autoexec: is it possible to crank up the resolution of the laptop?
[08:17] <autoexec> monzie: past native, no
[08:17] <QRZ> slipstream3d: yes
[08:17] <slipstream3d> Do you know why the repository only has 2.6.1 when 2.6.9 has been out for ages and has some MAJOR bug fixes?
[08:18] <monzie> autoexec: is there a command for determining what the max resolution is? or should i just let it be what the install set it to?
[08:18] <madhenry> monzie, where's the pastebin?
[08:18] <Nos4> nice ubuntu glad to c this room
[08:18] <autoexec> monzie: im not sure
[08:18] <QRZ> slipstream3d: Nope!  Sorry.  :-)
[08:18] <slipstream3d> i.e. to the point where Squid does not work for me at all :(
[08:18] <Nos4> not a bad sys atall
[08:18] <monzie> madhenry: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:18] <monzie> madhenry: will come back in min. need to restart my X
[08:19] <Nos4> ok so this rooms just an ad huh
[08:19] <QRZ> slipstream3d: Apparently they aren't too major because I've been using it on my Hoary server for like 2 years now without any problems!
[08:19] <Landon> Hey all, I downloaded and installed the adesklet yab, the icon scroll bar for the desktop, anyone know how I can customize it?
[08:19] <QRZ> slipstream3d: Perhaps you don't have it configured properly?
[08:20] <slipstream3d> Squid will not even start for me in the default configuration, in my previously-working configuration from Gentoo linux, or in a number of different tutorial situations
[08:20] <oritemis> hi guys. there are a deb of cairo-dock in somewhere? I was searching for, but don't discoveried that yet.
[08:21] <QRZ> slipstream3d: What do the logfiles say?  Any clues in them?
[08:21] <slipstream3d> Unfortunately I've nuked the system since the last time I tried it (other problems), but I seem to remember the logfiles simply ending after "starting..." then the process just... disappeared
[08:22] <slipstream3d> Perhaps I'll try it again (again). Le sigh.
[08:22] <QRZ> slipstream3d: Well, I think if you were to look at squid's logfile, you would have seen what was wrong.
[08:23] <slipstream3d> QRZ: no, that's what I'm saying. The logfile didn't have any errors, the program just up and disappeared. I think it said it segfaulted once.
[08:24] <QRZ> slipstream3d: Next time you attempt it, if it still gives you trouble, look in /var/log/squid for clues.
[08:24] <franky> is there a command to change the resolution to a widescreen format
[08:24] <aum> hi - ubuntu is not creating a file in /dev for my parport
[08:25] <aum> device manager shows 'ECP printer port', but it's not creating a /dev file for it
[08:25] <QRZ> slipstream3d: Well, I've never had it segfault on my server.  Perhaps there are issues with later versions than what I am running.
[08:25] <uber`xxiiv> hi -- i ubuntu for a server only box and we are trying to figure out how to update clamav -- its been saying for a week we have a old version but there is nothing new in the repos for it -- anyone got a clue where to get the new packages at?
[08:27] <defrysk> franky, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , run the defaults until you see the resolution setup , select your desired resolution, then continue with the defaults till done, then restart x
[08:27] <krinns> hi all
[08:27] <krinns> i have ubuntu install all good
[08:28] <krinns> i have some prb my webiste uses embeded java tagging
[08:28] <uber`xxiiv> hi -- i use ubuntu for a server only box and we are trying to figure out how to update clamav -- its been saying for a week we have a old version but there is nothing new in the repos for it -- anyone got a clue where to get the new packages at?
[08:28] <krinns> which firefox wont support
[08:28] <krinns> any idea
[08:28] <oritemis> I thinked this was the ubuntu support channel.
[08:28] <vegasmcpc> what's the command to add a mount point?
[08:28] <defrysk> !java | krinns
[08:28] <ubotu> krinns: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[08:28] <krinns> konqueror works but some time gets crashes
[08:28] <oritemis> I am sorry to take your time.
[08:29] <oritemis> With no sense questions.
[08:29] <mwe> Is it possible to rename the Applications menu or remove the label all together?
[08:29] <krinns> u mean
[08:29] <MTecknology> I just installed vmware server 1.0.1 on ubuntu 6.10. I am trying to connect to the VM through putty. Since that's not working, I'm trying to ping the vm instead.... anyway - i am not able to connect to the VM using Host Only or NAT... Any ideas? - My VM's are WInXPPro and FC6.
[08:29] <krinns> updating java wil solve my prb
[08:30] <nnliu> does any1 use a logitech G15 keyboard?
[08:30] <oritemis> will you at least answer me a good night if a curse you?
[08:31] <ashwin2882> krinns: do mean java applets are not working in firefox?
[08:31] <krinns> yup
[08:31] <uber`xxiiv> hmm anyone have a answer for my question ?
[08:31] <unska> is there a lightfx plugin for linux that allows me to control my dell xps m1710 leds?
[08:31] <Cryoniq> Anyone have the Realplayer 10 installed on Edgy? I just installed it and it just tell me Segmentation fault (core dumped) when trying to execute it.. *shrug*
[08:31] <krinns> as what i think
[08:31] <slipstream3d> cryoniq: eww, realplayer?
[08:31] <Cryoniq> yeah I know!
[08:32] <slipstream3d> I haven't touched Realplayer since version 5, and I'm sorry I didn't kill it sooner
[08:32] <ashwin2882> krinns: install jre from sun website & follow the instructions there to get java working in firefox
[08:32] <Cryoniq> But need it for a crappy news site streaming news feed over that.. other choice was WMA and that is just true failure..
[08:32] <slipstream3d> you can install other programs that will read the Real stream
[08:32] <ashwin2882> the url would be www.java.com or java.sun.com
[08:33] <defrysk> ashwin2882, no there is a package in the ubunturepos
[08:33] <slipstream3d> I don't know about Linux, unfortunately, but Real Alternative for Windows kicks arse
[08:33] <mwe> !java
[08:33] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[08:33] <krinns> what if i do apt-get install sun-java-jre5
[08:33] <ashwin2882> krinns: you can also use synaptic to get it working
[08:33] <thcmonkey> how do i get my nickname password sent to my e-mail adress (yes i did register e-mail)
[08:33] <thcmonkey> ?
[08:33] <krinns> whats synaptic
[08:34] <defrysk> krinns, sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin
[08:34] <krinns> all done
[08:34] <mwe> nobody knows how to rename the Applications menu?
[08:35] <unop> mwe,  probably is one of the .desktop files in /usr/share/{applications,menu}
[08:35] <oritemis> I had a directory inside my home dir. how do I put it into path variable?
[08:35] <mwe> unop: I'll check
[08:35] <Chobotron> does anyone know if my broadcom wireless nic will work with the ubuntu edgy livecd?
[08:35] <unop> oritemis,  add a line like this to your ~/.bashrc  export PATH=$PATH:/path/to/dir
[08:36] <ashwin2882> krinns: apt-get will work if you have the enabled necessary repos
[08:36] <defrysk> krinns, sudo update-alternatives config java and select javaversion matching your javaversion
[08:36] <oritemis> unop, thank you.
[08:36] <ashwin2882> krinns: synaptic gui equivaalent of apt-get
[08:36] <Cryoniq> slipstream3d, oh.. that is nice to hear. Any suggestions? =)
[08:37] <Almindor> hey again :)
[08:37] <Cryoniq> Those programs also have  plugins so that it works in firefox? =)
[08:37] <unop> oritemis,  this'll probably only work for your bash shell/scripts that use bash -- but you should be able to use the same in other rc files
[08:37] <oritemis> ok
[08:37] <mwe> unop: hmm. grep doesn't find it there.
[08:37] <Almindor> I got one remaining problem, for whatever reason, my second NIC changes between "eth1" and "eth2" with reboots
[08:37] <Almindor> and it completly ruins my settings on it :(
[08:37] <tritium> Almindor: is it not specified by MAC address in /etc/iftab?
[08:38] <unop> mwe,  well, i'd try and look but i dont have gnome installed .. run a recursive grep maybe?
[08:38] <Almindor> tritium, sec.
[08:38] <ashwin2882> How do i get mac os X looks on edgy & beryl
[08:38] <erpo> How can I set up my system so that I can run ./program.exe instead of running wine ./program.exe?
[08:38] <mwe> unop: I did ;)
[08:38] <Almindor> unop, yup, unspecified in there
[08:38] <mwe> unop: I'll try over all of /usr/share
[08:38] <unop> Almindor,  ???
[08:38] <Almindor> unop, should I add it manualy?
[08:39] <Almindor> unop, there's no entry for eth1
[08:39] <Almindor> (currently it's eth1 and it works)
[08:39] <unop> Almindor,  wasnt someone else helping you?
[08:39] <Almindor> unop, ?
[08:39] <Almindor> any help is appreciated :)
[08:39] <unop> erpo,  create a script named ./program.exe running the command  wine ...
[08:40] <QRZ> Almindor: put, "eth1 mac <mac_address>" in your /etc/iftab
[08:41] <unop> Almindor,  i think you need to follow tritium .. he was guiding you -- i'm a little alarmed you just pick me out of the blue :) follow tritium
[08:41] <tritium> Almindor: ?
[08:41] <Almindor> ooo
[08:41] <Almindor> right sorry, I got you mixed up
[08:41] <Almindor> added the mac, but shouldn't it be added automagicly by udev?
[08:42] <tritium> No, iftab isn't touched by udev.  That should be setup at intsall, as far as I know.
[08:42] <Almindor> ah that explains it, the NIC was added yesterday
[08:42] <tritium> I shouldn't say it's not touched.  udev _uses_ it, but doesn't configure it
[08:43] <Almindor> ok, one more bothersome question
[08:43] <Almindor> what soft is used for wireless net detection?
[08:44] <tritium> Almindor: the easiest solution is to intsall and use network-manager-gnome
[08:44] <Almindor> ah ok, thanks
[08:44] <tritium> s/intsall/install
[08:44] <devin_> anyone know how i can point my ut2003 installer to my cdrom. i tired mounting and just running the installer but i get ( mount: /dev/ is not a block device
[08:48] <MybEvil_> Anyone have any suggestions for an IRC client to use?
[08:49] <QRZ> MybEvil_: Text or graphical?
[08:49] <tritium> MybEvil_: irssi for text, xchat for graphical
[08:49] <MybEvil_> i'd want graphical
[08:49] <MybEvil_> i'm using irssi atm
[08:50] <tritium> QRZ: :)
[08:50] <MybEvil_> lol, i'm trying to decide whether or not to try to partition
[08:50] <MybEvil_> cause I don't wanna screw up and loose windows :/
[08:50] <tritium> It's pretty safe, MybEvil_
[08:51] <QRZ> Graphical is good, but it's hard to beat screen + irssi!  :-)
[08:51] <tritium> precisely
[08:51] <MybEvil_> on the last step...
[08:51] <MybEvil_> I don't understand what to do lol
[08:52] <MybEvil_> well, stop 5 of 6
[08:52] <MybEvil_> I don't know what to select for the last option
[08:52] <Spo8> I know the beryl room is a better place to ask this, but it's empty and I'd love to resolve this tonight.  Once I launch beryl, I get all the effects and everything, but the frames to every window just disappear.  So they all have no title, minimize, maximize, or close buttons, which also means they can't be dragged anywhere.  Anyone know what the problem is?
[08:53] <cableroy> Hi i want to assgin windows key + l for lock screen as in windows, trying to add it in keyboard shortcuts in gnome, but i can't assign l to it, the windows key is known as Super_L. any suggestion how to accomplish this?
[08:54] <kelsin> cableroy: do you mean that as soon as you try to type win+l in the shortcuts it just puts Super_L and is done? so you set the windows key alone to that shortcut?
[08:55] <cableroy> yes, only pushing windows key also gives the same, Super_L so if accidentally push windows key it lock my screen
[08:56] <kelsin> goto prefernces / keyboard
[08:56] <Ryiel> greetings
[08:56] <kelsin> under the layout options tab, go under "Alt/Win key behavior" and select "Super is map[ped to the Win-keys (default)"
[08:56] <kelsin> then it should work how you want
[08:57] <Ryiel> Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library <-- I've got this warning message when i tried to install glest. (www.glest.org) It's a game. How to make this locale supported by C library? Thanks!
[08:57] <cableroy> kelsin, yes it did, thank you very much
[08:58] <kelsin> cableroy: np
[08:58] <Kaso> is there a way to unlock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock fuser shows no processes using it, and i dont want to have to restart
[09:00] <Ryiel> Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library <-- What should i install or update to get rid of this message?
[09:01] <cableroy> kelsin, trying win key+l does not work, it got maped as <Mod4><Hyper>l but does not lock my screen
[09:03] <someguy> hi
[09:03] <someguy> auch da?
[09:03] <Prez_> hello
[09:03] <sinion> hallo
[09:03] <sinion> good morning everybody
[09:04] <Prez_> running edgy pretty well, want to compile custom kernel and mostly got <IP_ADDRESS> running, except for 3945 wireless...
[09:04] <Prez_> i am having problems compiling 3945 modules separtely
[09:04] <Prez_> not sure if i added 80211 stack correctly..
[09:04] <sinion> i have a question concerning the installation of ubuntu on an acer aspire notebook 1692 WlMi
[09:05] <kelsin> cableroy: you're right, it's not working for me either, I honestly don't know why though, Metacity keybindings are working, but not windowskey beinings in the Desktop section :-(
[09:05] <Prez_> also for Centrino Duo processor, which shoudl I choose, pentium-m?
[09:05] <sinion> what can i do, to make the graphics system work? everytime i boot the live-cd, the screen turns off
[09:06] <cableroy> kelsin, ok i'll google for it, if i find out i'll tell ya
[09:07] <Almindor> anyone knows if it's worth it to try and use latest ati drivers (from yesterday even o.O) or just keep with the repos old ones?
[09:07] <y0hm> sinios ; if you boot from cd , at the boot prompt you can set other graphical modes which might work
[09:08] <sinion> so...where do i find these modes?
[09:09] <slipstream3d> Woohoo! I got Squid working! Sort of.
[09:09] <y0hm> sinion , I think you need to press F2 or F3 or F4 for alternate install modes ( which include graphical modes )
[09:09] <slipstream3d> It works perfectly if I configure the web browser to use <IP_ADDRESS>:3128 as a proxy
[09:09] <y0hm> sinion , you might need to get the alternate install cd for the boot options  , i'm not sure
[09:09] <slipstream3d> ...but if I set up transparent proxying, i get the message: Unable to forward this request at this time
[09:10] <sinion> thanks a lot, yohm, i'll try that out:)
[09:12] <Prez_> someone running edgy with <IP_ADDRESS> kernel and wifi support for intel 3945?
[09:13] <slipstream3d> Oh wait. That's the bug they fixed in 2.6.2 from 2.6.1. Does anyone have a source for a .deb of Squid newer than 2.6.1?
[09:13] <koth> Hi there, this is the only channel i am joinning on this server, i need some help from the OP. My home IP got banned saying that i was clonning. what should i do?
[09:15] <kraut> moin
[09:15] <DarthLappy> koth: You might want to do "/stats p" and message a staffer about that.
[09:16] <koth> you mean pm the staff?
[09:16] <DarthLappy> koth: Yeah, there should be somebody on that list.
[09:16] <compengi> !paste
[09:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:17] <y0hm> I'm impressed at how snappy Edgy runs on my 1st generation G3 ppc with 192MB ram ,compared to osx
[09:17] <mojojojo__> cd c##
[09:17] <koth> DarthLappy: what is the command to do a PM in irc?
[09:18] <koth> DarthLappy: /tell?
[09:18] <DarthLappy> koth: /msg
[09:18] <DarthLappy> I guess it would depend on your client actually :)
[09:18] <koth> thanks
[09:18] <koth> =)
[09:20] <vlt> Hello. I installed Ubuntu Edgy and the package vnc4server. When I start a vncserver it stops with a font error msg. Then I found a wiki entry about editing /etc/vnc.conf (adding $fontpath) but the error msg still appears. Btw: The files from the wiki entry (/usr/share/X11/fonts/) don't exist. Any idea?
[09:20] <Cryoniq> phew.. RealPlayer 10 was pure crap.. didnt even start.. just tossed core dump in my face.. luckily mplayer and mozilla plugin saved the day :P
[09:21] <Cryoniq> Wonder when ever realplayer will deliver anything good.. wasnt exactly even nice in windows either.. ~
[09:21] <igge> hello
[09:22] <NoEvidenZ> I'm building a linux from scratch system. Does anyone know anything about it? I want to know, when you're building all the tools, are they meant to be on your LFS partition, or on your distro's partition? (eg, my Ubuntu partition)
[09:22] <igge> how is it possible to put the display to sleep a certain time of day and have it wake up at another time?
[09:23] <NoEvidenZ> You could just turn off your screen. Or did you mean stop the gdm or something?
[09:24] <y0hm> Cryoniq : you mean besides the spyware & crappy codec support ?  :)
[09:24] <NoEvidenZ> igge: Try going into a tty and typing /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[09:24] <NoEvidenZ> igge: I don't know if that's what you're after.
[09:24] <DarthLappy> igge: You can play with dpms and a cronjob.
[09:27] <igge> DarthLappy: ah ok.. how do I play with dpms? i.e. what command do I use and so?
[09:27] <DarthLappy> igge: Hmm... I'll have to have a look. I've done it, but it's been a while.
[09:27] <mwe> Hi. I'm trying to figure out how to rename the Applications menu to no avail so far. Does anyone know how to do it?
[09:28] <y0hm> I'm using Ubuntu Edgy_PPC ,fully updated ,I installed VLC ,but it is unable to play any video , it crashes when it starts playing ... Any tips ?
[09:28] <igge> DarthLappy: ah ok.. would very much appreciate it, if you would want to do that
[09:29] <eviltux> gnite
[09:32] <DarthLappy> igge: You'll want to look at the dpms option of xset
[09:32] <igge> DartyhLappy: ah ok...
[09:33] <cmh0101> hi i'm having trouble with beryl causing gnome-panel to freeze at startup, anyone know how i can fix this? AIGLX effects work just the gnome login panel stays there for awhile
[09:33] <DarthLappy> igge: eg xset dpms force off will blank your screen until you move the mouse
[09:33] <geoaxis> hello people
[09:33] <geoaxis> I am trying to get the command ar in live cd
[09:33] <geoaxis> is there any way
[09:34] <igge> DarthLappy: yey! it worked.. :)
[09:34] <igge> DarthLappy: but is there not a more gnome:ish way to do it you think?
[09:34] <DarthLappy> igge: :) But you might want to actually look at the details of it to see if there is a better way to do that.
[09:34] <DarthLappy> igge: I don't actually use Gnome :)
[09:35] <igge> DarthLappy: ok
[09:35] <old_cymuHep> !
[09:36] <igge> DarthLappy: there is a program called gnome-power-preferences... wounder where that program writes its configuration
[09:36] <jochu1> is there a way to check if apt-get installed everything ok?
[09:37] <old_cymuHep> !!ProFTPD
[09:37] <ubotu> proftpd: Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.0-9ubuntu0.1 (edgy), package size 594 kB, installed size 1532 kB
[09:37] <DarthLappy> igge: I wouldn't really know, sorry.
[09:38] <igge> DarthLappy: ok.. thanks anyways... the xset way works at least
[09:38] <|Z_E_R_O|> do u know if it is possible to installa ubuntu from a flash usb 256 mb?
[09:40] <vlt> I set "$fontpath = /usr/share/fonts/X11/..." in  /etc/vnc.conf but when I start vncserver it complains about missing "/usr/share/X11/fonts/" (that's a different path). What's wrong here?
[09:40] <NoEvidenZ> By default, who owns /dev/?
[09:41] <unop> vlt,  whats wrong with setting   fontpath=/usr/share/fonts/X11/
[09:41] <unop> ?
[09:42] <vlt> unop: nothing, I did that (except for the leading "$" from the used perl syntax in he conf file)
[09:43] <unop> vlt,  no i mean -- "$fontpath = /usr/share/fonts/X11/" instead of "$fontpath = /usr/share/fonts/X11/..."
[09:44] <unop> errm, do i see a typo there?
[09:45] <foormea> !burn
[09:45] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[09:47] <Neil3> hey all, have tried googling for this but can't find an answer - can evolution's weather calendar function support places outside the US/Virgin Islands?
[09:48] <SillyG> anyone here?
[09:49] <SillyG> what does alt+printscreen+b do in gnome?
[09:49] <vlt> unop: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH?highlight=fontpath
[09:49] <vlt> unop: That's what I added to /etc/vnc.conf
[09:49] <jochu1> !newsclient
[09:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about newsclient - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:49] <jochu1> !news
[09:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about news - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:50] <SillyG> does anyone know what does alt+printscreen+b does?
[09:50] <vlt> unop: But that paths doesn't exist on my system. It's rather called /usr/share/fonts/X11
[09:50] <tahsin> why does it say invalid theme archive when i try to install "login-scan-splash.tar.gz" with kdm theme manager?
[09:50] <vlt> unop: I'm running Edgy
[09:51] <unop> vlt,  well, whats what i mean, use that path there /usr/share/fonts/X11
[09:51] <unop> vlt, the font lookup should be rather recursive and dig into subdirectories
[09:52] <vlt> unop: Yes, I did that: I replaced every "/X11/fonts/" by "/fonts/X11("
[09:52] <tahsin> why does it say invalid theme archive when i try to install "login-scan-splash.tar.gz" with kdm theme manager?
[09:52] <RockClimber> I'm after a recommendation for a pda that place nice (or better) with ubuntu (linux in general too), would like to edit odf files on the move.
[09:52] <tahsin> why does it say invalid theme archive when i try to install "login-scan-splash.tar.gz" with kdm theme manager?
[09:52] <unop> vlt,  dont guess, use the paths that exist on your system
[09:53] <tahsin> why does it say invalid theme archive when i try to install "login-scan-splash.tar.gz" with kdm theme manager?
[09:54] <vlt> unop: On my system there's a path /usr/share/fonts/X11/ containing 100dpi and others.
[09:54] <tahsin> ?
[09:54] <vlt> unop: the error msg vncserver gives m is: "Could not init font path element /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc/, removing from list!"
[09:54] <vlt> unop: It's still looking i the wrong path.
[09:54] <vlt> in*
[09:55] <tahsin> ?
[09:55] <tahsin> why does it say invalid theme archive when i try to install "login-scan-splash.tar.gz" with kdm theme manager?
[09:55] <unop> vlt,  hmm, there must be another declaration of $fontpath that either supercedes the one you specify or is appended on .. i'm not so sure
[09:56] <unop> vlt,  let's have a look at your /etc/grep.conf .. use a !pastebin to show us
[09:57] <unop> err.. /etc/vnc.conf :) sorry
[09:57] <yaman> need help [09:58] <yaman> need help [09:59] <vlt> unop: There are only the lines from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH?highlight=fontpath (| sed 's/\/X11\/fonts/\/fonts\/X11/g')
[09:59] <ardchoille> yaman: We heard you the first time :)
[09:59] <SillyG> why is alt-printscreen-b so finicky for me in gnome?
[10:00] <yaman> i c
[10:00] <unop> vlt,  i dunno, manually verify that the paths specified in $fontpath exist or that you provide symlink for those missing directories
[10:01] <vlt> The paths exist, maybe I should try symlinking, thanks.
[10:01] <yaman> no one knows how to bring back the shutdown button ?
[10:02] <unop> yaman,  ask the folks in #kde perhaps?
[10:02] <yaman> unop: thanx
[10:02] <unop> yaman,  or #kubuntu even
[10:02] <vlt> unop: symlinking did it.
[10:02] <unop> vlt, :)
[10:03] <ricky> hello, ada member yg aktif?
[10:03] <ricky> saya pengguna baru utk ubuntu
[10:03] <unop> ricky,  what language is that?
[10:03] <ricky> indonesia
[10:03] <ricky> sorry
[10:04] <duckdown> Hi all... Interesting problem here (SSH GURUS please read) I have been creating means of tunneling all of my regular internet by using the "ssh -D#### tunnel.host.com" and evertyhing is great.. Except for one thing; no matter which shell provider I connect to, I can't seem to pull in more than like 90kb/s when downloading through the tunnel.  I have tested with various sources and there is NO restrictionsin place; is this some kind o
[10:04] <duckdown> f limitation to the SOCKS5 proxy?
[10:04] <mariano> does /etc/ubuntu on 6.10 not put DISPLAY in env_keep ?
[10:06] <unop> !id
[10:06] <ubotu> join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[10:09] <devin_> Hey all!! Im having trouble trying to figure this out! Im trying to install ut2003 and everytime i run the installer i get mount: /dev/ is not a block device im guess it has something to do with being an out dated installer and its looking in the wrong place but im not sure how to work around it
[10:09] <Mithsir> Hi. I need to run qemu un "user emulation" mode. However, this mode is not NPTL-compatible, so I need to prepend LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.19. However, this gives me errors about libm.so.6 not being found. I guess I don't have the corresponding glibc installed. What can I do?
[10:11] <[reed] > How do I see what package a file is part of using apt?
[10:13] <Flannel> [reed] : dpkg -S [filename]
[10:13] <Landon> Hey all, quick question, what's the command to get an lib item from a website?
[10:13] <old_cymuHep> how to uninstalll ProFTPD???
[10:13] <[reed] > Flannel: ever heard of /bin/su not being installed in a new edgy install?
[10:13] <sajt> apt-get autoremove proftpd
[10:14] <sajt> or apt-get autoremove --purge proftpd
[10:14] <Flannel> [reed] : shrug.  I don't have edgy, but it wouldn't be unheard of I guess.  Ubuntu uses sudo.
[10:14] <Quilby> !nx
[10:14] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[10:14] <[reed] > correct, I know
[10:14] <Quilby> !freenx
[10:14] <Quilby> ah
[10:14] <Quilby> i have a question
[10:14] <Landon> Hey all, quick question, what's the command to get a lib item from a website?
[10:15] <Landon> Anyone know?
[10:15] <Quilby> i am running gnome. can i install an application thats made for kde?
[10:15] <unop> lib item?
[10:15] <Flannel> [reed] : but, it is.  it's in the "login" package
[10:15] <Landon> py-libmpdclient 0.10.0 - http://www.musicpd.org/py-libmpdclient.shtml
[10:15] <old_cymuHep> sajt it says E: Invalid operation autoremove
[10:15] <[reed] > Flannel: yeah, but I have a guy that doesn't have /bin/su, but has login package installed
[10:16] <Flannel> Quilby: yep.  No problem.  The only thing is that it'll drag in a bunch of KDE libs with it, so your first KDE package will be a large download
[10:16] <Landon> It's like getnw or something
[10:16] <Flannel> [reed] : then he manually deleted it, and a reinstall of the package should replace it
[10:16] <[reed] > Flannel: what's the apt command to reinstall a package without first uninstalling it?
[10:16] <old_cymuHep> sajt it says E: Invalid operation autoremove
[10:16] <sijmen> I've setup an Ubuntu installation to function as a (part-time) backup machine. However, everytime I rsync over SSH with my Mac all files seem to be copied again
[10:16] <Landon> unop: Anything?
[10:17] <sijmen> Could it be something with the timestamp or so?
[10:17] <Flannel> [reed] : apt-get install --reinstall login
[10:17] <old_cymuHep> sajt it says E: Invalid operation autoremove
[10:17] <[reed] > thanks
[10:17] <unop> Landon,  you mean wget?
[10:17] <old_cymuHep> how to uninstalll ProFTPD???
[10:17] <Kenshirov> qulcuno parla italiano?
[10:17] <unop> Landon,  wget http://mercury.chem.pitt.edu/~shank/py-libmpdclient-0.10.0.tar.gz
[10:17] <unop> !it
[10:17] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:17] <Landon> wget! That's it!
[10:17] <Landon> unop: Thanks
[10:17] <Kenshirov> ok
[10:17] <unop> yw
[10:18] <old_cymuHep> how to uninstalll ProFTPD???
[10:18] <sijmen> now I'm killing rsync
[10:18] <sijmen> i'ts deleting loads of files :S
[10:18] <unop> old_cymuHep,  sudo aptitude remove proftpd
[10:18] <sijmen> *it's
[10:18] <Flannel> !repeat | old_cymuHep
[10:18] <ubotu> old_cymuHep: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:19] <Landon> unop: How do I unpackage that and install it?
[10:19] <unop> !compile
[10:19] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:19] <unop> Landon,  ^^
[10:20] <Landon> Hahaha, thanks unop :P
[10:24] <Neil3> !evolution
[10:24] <ubotu> evolution: The groupware suite. In component main, is optional. Version 2.8.1-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 5022 kB, installed size 38204 kB
[10:25] <old_cymuHep> how i can geti in my FTP by interne browser? what is the addres form? i installed vsftpd
[10:26] <old_cymuHep> is it ftp://mydomain.com
[10:26] <old_cymuHep> ???
[10:26] <old_cymuHep> it dont gets into that addres
[10:26] <Enselic``> Is there a way to restart X (Ctrl + Alt + Backspace) without all programs in the session getting killed?
[10:26] <old_cymuHep> ;(
[10:27] <Enselic``> old_cymuHep: try ftp.mydomain.com
[10:27] <Flannel> old_cymuHep: if you have your DNS setup, yes.  Otherwise it'd be your IP
[10:27] <Flannel> old_cymuHep: either on the real interblags, or your LAN IP
[10:27] <Flannel> and, if it's the former, you may need to port forward on whatever router you may have
[10:29] <old_cymuHep> Flannel its not opening
[10:29] <baki> heloo
[10:29] <old_cymuHep> tryed IP and domain...
[10:29] <baki> is anybody from PL??
[10:30] <Flannel> old_cymuHep: did you follow all the instructions?
[10:30] <old_cymuHep> Flannel you said DNS?
[10:30] <old_cymuHep> Flannel yes
[10:30] <Flannel> old_cymuHep: if your IP doesn't work, your DNS wont
[10:30] <old_cymuHep> Flannel IP works web is OPNENING
[10:31] <old_cymuHep> Flannel just FTP dont works...
[10:31] <bariel> hello, i have many .c files in different folder, is it possible using Makefile to tell him traverse all directory under src/ and compile everything ended with .c?
[10:31] <old_cymuHep> !FTP
[10:31] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[10:31] <Flannel> old_cymuHep: FTP server and HTTP server are entirely different.  You're trying to FTP through a browser?  Did you enable anonymous FTP?
[10:31] <serengeti> hello, i've just installed dapper server on my old via mvp3 motherboard (k6-2 550, additional CMD ide controller) and the thing is that as soon as grub loads the kernel, the system simply restarts
[10:31] <old_cymuHep> Flannel what is the best FTP server?
[10:32] <serengeti> any clues? i've tried acpi=off already
[10:32] <old_cymuHep> flannel hmmm
[10:32] <hume> hi...I am trying to set up an encrypted disk partiotion that is to be mounted at boot, but during boot I get error msg - it seems the prompt for passphrase appears behind splash screen and then boot stops with error msg, I am directed to a maintenance shell - anyone got advice on this? I followed instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto
[10:32] <Flannel> old_cymuHep: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html  those are the instructions.  Sounds like you didn't follow all of them ;)
[10:33] <K|NgGh0sT> Hello, was wondering if I'm currently running a LVM, build on a 250 and a 300 gig drive... if I wanted to add 2 more drives and convert to a raid 05 lvm... can I do this without losing data?
[10:33] <Quilby> !Python\
[10:33] <ubotu> python: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.4.3-11ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 37 kB, installed size 208 kB
[10:34] <Quilby> !7.04
[10:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 7.04 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:34] <Flannel> !feisty
[10:34] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[10:34] <Quilby> thanks flannel
[10:34] <Quilby> What does ubotu mean when he says that feisty is in alpha?
[10:35] <Flannel> Quilby: it's still alpha software (alpha is before beta), very unstable.
[10:35] <Quilby> oh ok
[10:35] <serengeti> hume, have you tried disabling the splash screen?
[10:35] <Quilby> i have a question
[10:36] <hume> serengeti, just found out about it...:) in /boot/grub/grub.conf?
[10:36] <serengeti> yep thats right
[10:36] <Flannel> !ask | Quilby
[10:36] <ubotu> Quilby: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:36] <hume> but I don't have a grub.conf
[10:37] <Quilby> in the menu manager it says that a certain program (that i just installed) should be in the menu ( a subfolder of internet)  but i cant see it in the actual menu....
[10:37] <Flannel> hume: /boot/grub/menu.lst on Ubuntu
[10:37] <Quilby> what do i do?
[10:37] <soulfreshner> I'm looking for a way to make apt-get look at a different database when it checks for installed packages
[10:37] <soulfreshner> is there a way to do something like that
[10:37] <soulfreshner> ??
[10:38] <oem__> hey guys i am definely lost
[10:38] <Tomcat_> soulfreshner: Sure, replace /var/lib/apt with something else.
[10:38] <oem__> i am a new user in Linux
[10:38] <oem__> and I just cant figure out why my browser scrolls up and down so slow
[10:38] <soulfreshner> Tomcat - is that all?
[10:38] <Flannel> oem__: you don't want the OEM install, you want the "Desktop" install (first option on the alternate CD)
[10:38] <hume> Flannel, how do I disable it there? is it the "quiet" option after the menu item?
[10:38] <eelmoo> Hello
[10:39] <eelmoo> I'll find out
[10:39] <Flannel> hume: disable what?
[10:39] <Tomcat_> soulfreshner: Not sure if I understood you right... maybe you could give some more details?
[10:39] <oem__> desktop install.....so what do i do now
[10:39] <hume> Flannel, the spash screen so I can enter my passphrase for encrypted partition
[10:39] <soulfreshner> the idea is to download all the files needed for my machine at home from my work network
[10:39] <oem__> i had a text install and oem install
[10:39] <very`tired> i did a install dist-upgrade and now my X doesn't work anymore
[10:39] <very`tired> anyone?
[10:40] <old_cymuHep> Flannel i followed the instructions and it says  when i gi through internet explorer   eindows cannot access this folder.
[10:40] <soulfreshner> so the packages should be downloaded based on the packages installed at home, in stead of at work...
[10:40] <hume> very`tired, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[10:40] <Flannel> oem__: if you don't want to reinstall, that's fine.  You just need to run "oem-config-prepare" and reboot
[10:40] <Flannel> oem__: then the text install, sorry.
[10:40] <soulfreshner> Tomcat: a crude way to do something like this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OfflineUpdateSpec
[10:40] <very`tired> hume: trying that
[10:40] <hume> serengeti, how do I disable the splash screen there, in menu.lst?
[10:41] <oem__> text install what does that do flannel
[10:41] <Flannel> oem__: OEM install is meant for computer mfcs, so they can configure stuff and let the end user create their own user and stuff, once they get it
[10:41] <very`tired> hume: are default settings usually correct? cause for X server driver i have vesa (not a clue what that is)
[10:41] <Flannel> oem__: it installs the normal desktop system
[10:41] <old_cymuHep> Flannel i followed the instructions and it says  when i gi through internet explorer   eindows cannot access this folder.
[10:41] <hume> very`tired, the upgrade should have saved your previous xorg.conf as a backup, could check differences?
[10:41] <oem__> so whats the procedure...
[10:42] <oem__> do i reinsert my cd
[10:42] <very`tired> hume: where is it located?
[10:42] <oem__> and do text install over top of it
[10:42] <serengeti> hume, i'll look it up in a moment
[10:42] <hume> very`tired, check earlier xorg.conf, it depends,
[10:42] <Flannel> hume: quiet makes the stuff it tells you a lot less (anti-verbose), removing the "splash" optiong gets rid of the splash screen
[10:42] <hume> very`tired, /etc/X11
[10:42] <old_cymuHep> !FTPserver
[10:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ftpserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:42] <old_cymuHep> !ftp
[10:42] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[10:42] <soulfreshner> Tomcat: do you think I can just tar.gz var lib apt on my home machine, and replace it on my work server? - and obviously revert when I am finished...
[10:42] <serengeti> hume, basically there's a splashimage or splash option
[10:42] <old_cymuHep> !nautilus
[10:42] <ubotu> nautilus: file manager and graphical shell for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.1-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 586 kB, installed size 1424 kB
[10:42] <serengeti> ahh it's been already said :)
[10:42] <hume> ok
[10:43] <old_cymuHep> !FTPd
[10:43] <ubotu> FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[10:43] <very`tired> hume: is it wise to simply overwrite the current xorg with the old one?
[10:43] <hume> very`tired, no, save a copy
[10:43] <Flannel> oem__: that'd work.  Or if you don't want to reinstall at all, open a terminal, "sudo oem-config-prepare" and then once that's done, reboot
[10:43] <old_cymuHep> !ftpd
[10:43] <oem__> alright
[10:43] <old_cymuHep> !proftpd
[10:43] <ubotu> proftpd: Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.0-9ubuntu0.1 (edgy), package size 594 kB, installed size 1532 kB
[10:44] <very`tired> hume: X is starting now
[10:44] <hume> very`tired, :)
[10:44] <very`tired> hume: my entire desktop is gone though :<
[10:44] <oem__> alright rebooting i might ask more questions later thanks FLannel
[10:44] <hume> very`tired, check differences between the two xorg,conf files
[10:44] <very`tired> hume: whats the command for that again?
[10:45] <_wooz> hi all
[10:45] <hume> very`tired, you could use meld or kompare
[10:46] <very`tired> hume: neither works
[10:46] <old_cymuHep> !cvs
[10:46] <ubotu> cvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/
[10:46] <krantix> hi! i have a problem with ndiswrapper... it says hardware present and drive ok, but i cannot load my belkin card... anybody can help me? eth1 shows up but does no discovery...?!?! thanks!!!!
[10:46] <hume> very`tired, manually inspect them, check for video driver etc
[10:46] <_wooz> I followed this howto http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=305665 (FGLX installation on Edgy with Radeon9600 R350 4150).. and I got "Direct Rendering: no" with "glxinfo | grep direct" command
[10:46] <old_cymuHep> !wu-ftp
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wu-ftp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:47] <old_cymuHep> !wu-ftpd
[10:47] <ubotu> wu-ftpd: powerful and widely used FTP server. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.6.2-24 (edgy), package size 276 kB, installed size 792 kB
[10:47] <very`tired> hume: is it also possible my nvidia driver was killed? i didn't get the splash and i can't set the resolution properly
[10:48] <hume> very`tired, possible, quite possible. the closed source driver?
[10:48] <_wooz> someone are an idea?
[10:48] <very`tired> hume: i had a beta driver (quite old i believe)
[10:48] <very`tired> hume: back in the day to support beryl etc
[10:49] <krantix> can anybody help with ndiswrapper?
[10:50] <hume> very`tired, probably you need a newer driver then
[10:50] <_wooz> I got "Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"" with "glxgears -printfps"
[10:50] <very`tired> hume: how do i go about doing that?
[10:51] <cmh0101_> hi guys =)
[10:51] <very`tired> hume: i know why my desktop is gone btw :P i'm logged in as root, as i was root when i called startx
[10:51] <hume> very`tired, don't know, don't use them. I guess there is a closed source driver in the multiverse repos, or you download from nvidia site...
[10:51] <hume> very`tired, i belive there is some howto about it at the ubuntu wiki
[10:52] <cmh0101_> Synaptic thinks that my computer is runnig i386 when it has the lastes kernel and is running i686 how can i change this so i can install programs in Add/Remove?
[10:52] <rylan> hey, how do i setup a new user and have everything in chinese
[10:52] <very`tired> hume k thx
[10:54] <rylan> anyone here that is not lurking?
[10:54] <theholyduck> probaly not
[10:54] <Landon> Anyone around who can help me solve the DUMBEST THING I HAVE EVER DONE?
[10:54] <theholyduck> Landon, just ask
[10:54] <lukketto> rylan: no!
[10:54] <very`tired> hume: btw, what is the most likely reason that an update messed up my xorg.conf?
[10:55] <Landon> There was this package, I sudo apt-get installed it, and then hit yes, and it started removing a bunch of stuff
[10:55] <Landon> I mean a BUNCH
[10:55] <Landon> It was going to clear up about 502 MB worth of stuff if I let it continue
[10:55] <Landon> It probably got about half
[10:55] <hume> very`tired, dont know, but possibly problems with video driver, I'd say
[10:55] <Landon> But as of now, I don't have gnome-terminal
[10:55] <Landon> Some of my programs are gone
[10:55] <Landon> No gnome-terminal
[10:55] <Landon> But, i have Konsole
[10:56] <Neil3> ctrl+alt+F1, Landon
[10:56] <Neil3> get into a real terminal :)
[10:56] <Neil3> ctrl+alt+F7 to get back to x
[10:56] <Landon> Hahaha, then IRSSI back here?
[10:56] <Neil3> or irssi
[10:56] <Landon> Well, what do I do even in that Terminal?
[10:56] <rylan> hey, how do i setup a new user and have everything in chinese
[10:57] <Landon> This is probably the worst thing ever
[10:57] <Neil3> you could check out the apt log file (i forget the name) but its in /var/log
[10:57] <Neil3> then reinstall all the packages it says were removed
[10:57] <Landon> Details: Error reading file 'file:///usr/share/applications/nautilus-home.desktop': File not found
[10:57] <Landon> I don't even have a home folder anymore?
[10:58] <Neil3> what if you try cd ~
[10:58] <Neil3> then type pwd
[10:58] <Landon> I'm in /var/log
[10:58] <Landon> Which one is the log?
[10:59] <very`tired> how can i see my current kernel?
[11:00] <Neil3> dpkg.log
[11:00] <_Rno__> Hello. I've just installed Edgy and done all updates. Few months ago, I used Dapper, and on this one I've got a 'Disks' entry on the administration menu which helps me to mount / unmount my hard drives. How can I add it on the Edgy ?
[11:00] <Neil3> type less dpkg.log
[11:00] <Neil3> then hit the end key to get to the bottom
[11:01] <Landon> I can still gedit it
[11:01] <Neil3> Landon, hm you could try apt-get install ubuntu-desktop as that's a metapackage containing lots of stuff
[11:02] <heikki> very`tired: uname -r
[11:02] <Neil3> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop of course... :)
[11:02] <old_cymuHep> what is the best ftp servr?
[11:02] <Landon> Neil3: I tried that, it gave me something weird
[11:02] <Neil3> damn
[11:03] <Landon> Neil3: It says it has unmet dependency's
[11:03] <Neil3> try sudo apt-get update
[11:03] <Neil3> then try installing again
[11:03] <JaccoH> hi ppl
[11:04] <Landon> As soon as it gets to "Connecting to packages.freecontrib.org" it pretty much freezes
[11:04] <Landon> Site down?
[11:04] <JaccoH> is this a good place to discuss an issue i have with ubuntu .. well im not sure if its ubuntu specific.. but it is ubuntu after all :)
[11:05] <JaccoH> Landon its not pingable?
[11:06] <Landon> Don't know
[11:07] <JaccoH> well could be down then .. other then that your internet connection is ok?
[11:07] <Landon> Hahaha, i'm talking here
[11:07] <old_cymuHep> what is the best ftp server?
[11:07] <very`tired> ok, i'm following the wiki to install nvidia driver, but it isn't working, when i choose nvidia-glx, i get "could not mark all packages for installation or upgrade"
[11:07] <JaccoH> Landon .. yes but not necessarily on that machine :)
[11:08] <very`tired> unresolvable dependancies
[11:08] <cafuego_> old_cymuHep: the one you prefer and are comfortable with
[11:08] <sabayonuser_> any advantage to using ubuntu over debian?
[11:08] <JaccoH> sabayonuser.. support options.. later versions of software
[11:08] <Landon> I found all the files it was going to remove and did
[11:08] <Landon> Should I just sudo apt-get install all of them?
[11:08] <Enselic``> sabayonuser_: you get more with ubuntu
[11:09] <Landon> I can do it in one line, might as well?
[11:09] <JaccoH> yes landon
[11:09] <sabayonuser_> Enselic``: get more of what? i've used both extensively, debian seems more customisable and quicker, ubuntu is more refined
[11:09] <old_cymuHep> cafuego_ dont know i never used before.. thats why i am asking
[11:10] <Enselic``> sabayonuser_: more :p
[11:10] <JaccoH> ok my problem now: I have Ubuntu edgy on a Dell PowerEdge 2900 with BNX2 NICs... the NICs/modules crash when I connect to this server an ssh client and try something simple like 'top'
[11:10] <cafuego_> old_cymuHep: What you plan on using it for?
[11:10] <sabayonuser_> Enselic``: haha, fair enough, might come back for a while then
[11:10] <JaccoH> tried multiple kernel version
[11:10] <_wooz> can anybody give me a good link to download libdri.a.gz (to fix pb with amd64)?
[11:10] <sabayonuser_> i have a dual core AMD64 processor, which ubuntu do i want to run, and what options do i need?
[11:11] <cafuego_> old_cymuHep: internal? external? anonymous? authenticated users? ssl? quota?
[11:11] <old_cymuHep> cafuego_ i need it for upload files on server...
[11:11] <cafuego_> sabayonuser_: desktop or server, and if server, what services?
[11:11] <_wooz> http://mail3.mpr.org/mlomker/libdri.a.gz link is dead :o(
[11:11] <JaccoH> sabayonuser.. the question is wrong.. it usage as server or desktop is the better criteria
[11:11] <sabayonuser_> cafuego_: desktop, but with some apache/mysql
[11:11] <cafuego_> sabayonuser_: Edgy 32bit
[11:11] <Neil3> Landon, yeah a one liner apt-get install will work
[11:11] <JaccoH> edgy eft then .. with the proper kernel after install
[11:11] <old_cymuHep> cafuego_ i need it for upload files on server...
[11:12] <very`tired> anyone? unresolvable dependancies when trying to install nvidia-glx ?
[11:12] <cafuego_> JaccoH: edgy has a -generic kernel, which does SMP and amd64.
[11:12] <cafuego_> old_cymuHep: probably go with vsftpd then. That's fairly simple.
[11:12] <old_cymuHep> !vsftpd
[11:12] <Landon> Neil3: Trying that now
[11:12] <sabayonuser_> cafuego_: yeah, i thought the kernel was generic, do i need to boot with the smp option?
[11:12] <ubotu> vsftpd: The Very Secure FTP Daemon. In component main, is extra. Version 2.0.4-0ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 109 kB, installed size 408 kB
[11:12] <cafuego_> old_cymuHep: Or use scp/sftp instead if the server runs ssh
[11:12] <Neil3> good luck Landon
[11:13] <old_cymuHep> !scp/sftpd
[11:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about scp/sftpd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:13] <Landon> Thanks, I think I'm going to need it :)
[11:13] <cafuego_> sabayonuser_: Nah, it detects CPUs at runtime and boots however many it finds
[11:13] <old_cymuHep> !scp
[11:13] <ubotu> SCP is a secure way of copying files across networks using !SSH. Usage: scp filename user@host:filename - WinSCP is a client for Windows, available at http://winscp.net/
[11:13] <JaccoH> cafuego .. i use the -server kernel .. tried 2.6.17 and 2.6.20 from feisty
[11:13] <sabayonuser_> cafuego_: great, thanks a lot
[11:13] <cafuego_> JaccoH: Ah, yeah... -server lacks restricted stuff.
[11:13] <cmh0101_> can anyone link me to some good wigets for ubuntu?
[11:14] <JaccoH> cafuego .. yes sorry i was assuming you were addressing my specific problem :)
[11:14] <cafuego_> JaccoH: Ah oh, no :-)
[11:14] <JaccoH> ok
[11:14] <cafuego_> JaccoH: Short of: try with other nics and see if it still crashes
[11:14] <yomm> How can I list the available colors (naming) on Edgy ?
[11:14] <idefix> what bit makes a file a link? sticky bit, suid or sgid?
[11:15] <JaccoH> cafuego .. well the work around is funny.. rmmod bnx2 && /etc/init.d/networking stop && modprobe bnx2 && /etc/init.d/networking start && /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[11:15] <ArchieTek> anyone know of a distro that can run on a 486SX, 32MB RAM, 512MB HDD a light wm ???
[11:15] <JaccoH> after this it wont happen again.. as if the module doesnt load properly orso?
[11:16] <kraut> ArchieTek: xubuntu perhaps
[11:16] <cafuego_> ArchieTek: dsl probably
[11:16] <kraut> ArchieTek: but that's really crappy hardware
[11:16] <idefix> can anyone help me please with this medium big problem? http://garimbo.org/nopaste/1022 any help would be greatly appreciated
[11:17] <kidbuntu> !java runtime environment
[11:17] <ArchieTek> need it for a lab... I know its crapy
[11:17] <kidbuntu> java runtime environment!
[11:17] <kidbuntu> !JRE
[11:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jre - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:17] <kraut> ArchieTek: try xubuntu
[11:18] <idefix> I have some dvdrom mapping problems http://garimbo.org/nopaste/1022. can anyone help?
[11:18] <ArchieTek> some ppl said that even xubuntu is too much weight for this ol sucker
[11:18] <idefix> please!
[11:18] <ArchieTek> dsl is a choice...
[11:19] <theholyduck> ArchieTek, you could like use forever to install gentoo
[11:19] <theholyduck> and use fluxbox
[11:19] <theholyduck> or debian and fluxbox
[11:20] <yomm> Archie : do a Edgy altcommand line install & install the lightest wm ... there is stuff that is way lighter then xubuntu
[11:20] <Polysics> argh. why is ruby on ubuntu still 1.8.4?
[11:20] <ArchieTek> how about slack?
[11:20] <theholyduck> well apt-get is win
[11:20] <renaud_> idefix, hdb1 hdb3 and hdb5 are differents partitions of your hard drive
[11:20] <yomm> Archie : I ment Edgy_alt CD command line install :)
[11:20] <theholyduck> yomm, he could try the server cd
[11:21] <theholyduck> thats command line after its installed too
[11:21] <yomm> Archie : like just xorg & twm .. btw do you really need X ?
[11:21] <theholyduck> then apt-get install xorg. and apt-get install fluxbox
[11:21] <yomm> theholyduck : yes , for example
[11:21] <ArchieTek> well no, just some kind of wm...
[11:21] <theholyduck> fluxbox is your best bet
[11:21] <yomm> Archie , but u need graphics ?
[11:21] <yomm> thenu need X :)
[11:22] <theholyduck> well you can play videos in framebuffer consoles
[11:22] <theholyduck> and music too
[11:22] <theholyduck> with mplayer
[11:22] <theholyduck> chating in console is ok
[11:22] <theholyduck> and lynx works too
[11:22] <theholyduck> :P
[11:22] <ArchieTek> yes I can't really work an OS without graphics (ol windoze usr...)
[11:22] <ArchieTek> lynx is cool
[11:22] <idefix> renaud_ what does the b stand for in brw-rw----?
[11:23] <yomm> holyduck : do previous versions of ubuntu e.g 5 run possibly a bit lighter then 6 ?
[11:23] <jussi01> !enter | theholyduck:
[11:23] <ubotu> theholyduck:: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:23] <JaccoH> i wish it were more easy to remove X all together from edgy :)
[11:23] <theholyduck> lol. i always use the enterkey to much :(
[11:23] <renaud_> idefix, I think it means block device, but i'm not sure, man ls :)
[11:23] <theholyduck> yomm, gnome is gnome.
[11:23] <idefix> renaud_ but do you know why my dvdrom won't work?
[11:23] <theholyduck> its still a full WM even if its old.
[11:24] <ArchieTek> how about fvwm is it light enough?
[11:24] <yomm> Jaccoh ;: it's not that hard , and you could always try NOT installing it in the first place
[11:24] <theholyduck> only light wm im used to is FluxBox.
[11:24] <JaccoH> yomm i didnt find that option really :) i may have overlooked it though
[11:24] <renaud_> idefix, what's not working ?
[11:24] <theholyduck> as i know you can run fluxbox on less than 100mhz
[11:25] <theholyduck> though i never tryed that in person
[11:25] <yomm> Jaccoh : you are probably using the live cd , right ?
[11:25] <ArchieTek> well tried blackbox once and seemed kinda ok...
[11:25] <idefix> in the top of the pastebin I typed the command that used to mount my dvdrom
[11:25] <idefix> now it won't work anymore
[11:25] <JaccoH> yomm well i have this DVD from linux magazine
[11:25] <idefix> mount: No medium found
[11:25] <JaccoH> which installs from live cd
[11:25] <JaccoH> yes
[11:25] <yomm> Jaccoh : does it boot directly into gnome ?
[11:25] <JaccoH> yes
[11:26] <yomm> ok live cd then
[11:26] <JaccoH> yes :)
[11:26] <yomm> if you use the alt_cd u can do various install , including a CLI ( command line interface ) system only :)
[11:26] <JaccoH> not that this machine will notice the existence of X .. its too fast for that :)
[11:26] <renaud_> idefix, sorry idefix I dont see what to do
[11:26] <JaccoH> two quad core XEONs .. 8GB ram
[11:27] <ArchieTek> I'm not that brave ;-)
[11:27] <jussi01> jaccoH: nice machine!!!
[11:27] <JaccoH> yes very nice
[11:27] <JaccoH> though the NICs on it suck so far
[11:27] <JaccoH> broadcom netxtreme :(
[11:27] <jussi01> got a spare one? :P
[11:28] <jussi01> heheh
[11:28] <JaccoH> i cant get them working stable
[11:28] <JaccoH> me? no .. :)
[11:28] <JaccoH> they will run vmware server :)
[11:28] <JaccoH> i have more then one of those servers
[11:28] <manuconnexion> hello some one allready tried to install tinyerp soft on ubuntu edgy N?
[11:29] <manuconnexion> or knows where there is a good tutorial about it
[11:29] <JaccoH> ne way.. anyone in here using the BNX2 module for its NIC here?
[11:30] <nanothief> is there a way to minimise a full screen program without quitting it? I tried alt-tab but it didn't work
[11:30] <JaccoH> use a mouse?
[11:30] <JaccoH> look for an icon with a _ in it :)
[11:30] <jussi01> JaccoH: sorry cant help you with th BNX2 module...
[11:31] <goban> in beryl, why cant you move to another viewpoint when a window is maximized?
[11:31] <jussi01> goban: you should be able to
[11:31] <theholyduck> or just
[11:31] <theholyduck> move the mouse in the upper right corner
[11:32] <theholyduck> (sorry for the enter)
[11:32] <theholyduck> on beryl that shuld let you change between all windows
[11:32] <JaccoH> dont sweat it ducky :D
[11:32] <puppy_beast> goban, beryl =0.19999 or so. Still the number is too small to be consider stable, imho
[11:32] <JaccoH> beryl works with hotcorners?
[11:32] <goban> theholyduck: i know and shift alt cntrl lft/right works as well, just wondering why the send wasnt
[11:33] <nanothief> theholyduck: do you know how to get that feature to work with minimized windows as well
[11:33] <theholyduck> i think it works on all types of windows. but i dont use beryl all that much
[11:33] <nanothief> goban: I don't think it is meant to work with a maximized window, it doesn't work for me
[11:33] <theholyduck> and i cant test it now
[11:34] <nanothief> you can still use the shift+ctrl+alt + left or right to do the same thing
[11:34] <jussi01> goban: if you fail here dont forget theres a dedicated beryl room - #beryl
[11:35] <JaccoH> ctrl+shift+alt+left.. wow
[11:35] <JaccoH> :)
[11:36] <mimilus> hello everybody
[11:36] <idefix> how long do ubuntu bans last?
[11:36] <JaccoH> bans?
[11:36] <ikonia_> depends ask an op
[11:36] <jussi01> !hi | mimilus
[11:36] <ubotu> mimilus: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[11:37] <mimilus> Is there someone wich could help me to configure xorg.conf with my asus x800 pro tvd ?
[11:37] <JaccoH> !hi | JaccoH
[11:37] <JaccoH> cool
[11:37] <mimilus> sorry but i'm french
[11:37] <ikonia_> mimilus what chipset is on that card
[11:37] <ikonia_> !fr >mimilus
[11:37] <Landon> Neil3: Hey, need help again
[11:37] <mimilus> r420
[11:37] <mimilus> it is like ati x800 pro
[11:37] <ikonia_> mimilus is that ati ?
[11:38] <mimilus> yes ati chipset
[11:38] <highneko> Does anyone know of any good typing proctice programs? Something with nice looking text that won't kill my eyes? x_x
[11:38] <elw0od> good morning all
[11:38] <ikonia_> mimilus no can do, sorry - I've stopped helping out on ati issues because its so touch and go
[11:38] <ikonia_> highneko vi ? openoffice ?
[11:38] <idefix> defrysk how long does my #ubuntu-nl ban last? I won't talk about non-ubuntu-related matters anymore...
[11:38] <jussi01> !howdy | elw0od:
[11:38] <ubotu> elw0od:: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[11:38] <Landon> Neil3: So I was going through the dpkg.log file, and I can't figure out what the files are called from the log file!
[11:38] <ikonia_> idefix ask an op
[11:38] <elw0od> hi oubutu
[11:38] <idefix> he's the one who banned me (defrysk)
[11:38] <ikonia_> ah
[11:38] <Landon> JaccoH: Maybe you could help
[11:39] <elw0od> i want to go feisty but i have fear
[11:39] <Polysics> what does channel mode +tnc mean, pls? OT :-)
[11:39] <ikonia_> idefix try joining #ubuntu-ops and ask
[11:39] <ikonia_> elw0od then don't
[11:39] <jussi01> !ubotu | elw0od:
[11:39] <ubotu> elw0od:: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:39] <ikonia_> elw0od why do you WANT fesity
[11:39] <mimilus> !ubotu
[11:40] <Landon> Anyone: From this line- 2007-02-22 04:42:26 remove ubuntu-base 0.120 0.120 -What's the file called?
[11:40] <ikonia_> Landon what do you mean - file ?
[11:40] <nanothief> does ubotu block repeated commands?
[11:40] <elw0od> i want 2.6.20
[11:40] <elw0od> ubotu, i love you
[11:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i love you - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:40] <ikonia_> elw0od why ?
[11:40] <ikonia_> elw0od why do you want 2.6.20
[11:40] <elw0od> i need to try
[11:40] <Quilby> !remote
[11:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remote - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:40] <ikonia_> what do you need from it
[11:40] <Landon> ikonia_: I removed a bunch of stuff from my computer on accident, programs, ubunto essentials, a ton
[11:40] <Quilby> !remotedesktop
[11:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remotedesktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:41] <ikonia_> Landon see if you can apt-get ubuntu-base again
[11:41] <jussi01> nanothief: I think so
[11:41] <elw0od> i need to recompile for hibernate patch
[11:41] <Quilby> !search remote
[11:41] <ubotu> Found: aiglx, vnc, freenx
[11:41] <Quilby> !vnc
[11:41] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[11:41] <ikonia_> elw0od then either use 2.6.20 on edgy/dapper or update to fesity
[11:41] <Quilby> !aiglx
[11:41] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-effects for support.
[11:41] <ismail> screen!
[11:41] <ismail> !screen
[11:41] <Landon> Hahaha
[11:41] <ubotu> screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[11:41] <Landon> Oops
[11:41] <dromer> QuilbyZ
[11:41] <ismail> !screen resolution
[11:41] <dromer> try plain x-forwarding ;)
[11:42] <Landon> ikonia_: Yeah, I can, so just forget the numbers then?
[11:42] <ubotu> screen: a terminal multiplexor with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation. In component main, is optional. Version 4.0.2-4.1ubuntu5.6.10 (edgy), package size 570 kB, installed size 976 kB
[11:42] <Quilby> ?
[11:42] <ikonia_> Landon yes it will get the latest for you
[11:42] <ismail> !screenresolution
[11:42] <Landon> ikonia_: Thanks
[11:42] <dromer> ismail: just ask your question, it's's easier
[11:43] <ismail> guys my screen resolution is only up to 1024X768
[11:43] <ismail> i want the higher resolution settings
[11:43] <dromer> then go into your xorg.conf and fix it ;)
[11:43] <ismail> i reinstalled ubuntu yesterday before my screen was setto 12XX
[11:44] <Ayabara> I need a "party mode" for my Ubuntu laptop. I want my guests to be able to fiddle with my music player / playlists / music library, but I don't wan't them to have access to anything else. how can I do this?
[11:44] <ismail> i think i need to add the extra resolutions manualy i just dont know how
[11:44] <elw0od> i suppose that is unsfe to take only kernel packs from feisty repository?
[11:44] <darkstar> Hi. I have a problem with synaptic everytime I install packages ii returns an error  zhich is always related to graphviz-cairo packg. Idecided to mark the package for reinstallation but it always fails. Any guess?
[11:45] <dromer> Ayabara: make a new user with restrictions? this can be a pain on some settings I've found out though
[11:45] <dromer> Ayabara: can't really help you fully with that
[11:45] <dromer> ismail: yes, you need to put it in your xorg.conf
[11:45] <ismail> dromer: how do u that exactly
[11:46] <ismail> i need step by step instructions
[11:46] <dromer> ismail: go in a terminal and type: sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:46] <Ayabara> dromer, I'll look into it :-)
[11:46] <ismail> ok then
[11:46] <darkstar> Is there a painless way to create a /home partition somewhere and move current /home content there?
[11:46] <dromer> ismail: go down to the last few lines involving resolution (you should recognise)
[11:47] <dromer> I asume you use a depth of 24
[11:47] <ikonia_> darkstar create the partition, put a file system on it, mount it, copy the data across, remount it on /home
[11:48] <dromer> ismail: then you see the modes that are in that section
[11:48] <jax> i am having trouble installing realplayer because system says i need to remove some conflicting programs..how should i go about doing this...thx
[11:48] <dromer> and your desired resolution (type esc then i to insert stuff
[11:48] <ismail> i see it
[11:48] <ikonia_> jax remove the conflicting packages
[11:48] <darkstar> ikonia_, then edit /etc/fstab to point to that partition as my new /home partition?
[11:48] <ismail> shouldnt i be in gedit?
[11:48] <dromer> ismail: I think you need 1280x1024 ?
[11:48] <ikonia_> darkstar yes, but that will only matter on a reboot
[11:48] <dromer> ismail: doesn't matter, this is how I do it