[04:31] <Samus_Aran> Lxndr: try loading a terminal and running the command: alsamixer
[04:32] <Lxndr> Samus_Aran: It is not! I am getting a 'no sound card' error.
[04:32] <userx64> I still cannot log in as root with the GUI.
[04:32] <Exploiter_Ind> http://art.gnome.org/download/themes/icon/1111/ICON-StillLife.tar.bz2
[04:32] <Exploiter_Ind> Samus_ this one
[04:32] <Samus_Aran> Lxndr: check to see if any of the controls have an "M" below them, that means muted.  use arrows to go to it and press "M" to unmute
[04:32] <firefly2442> Does the 10.10 kernel support wireless N?
[04:32] <userx64> Please someone help me I'm losing hair over this.
[04:33] <Samus_Aran> Lxndr: okay, which soundchip?  lspci|grep audio
[04:33] <Samus_Aran> Exploiter_Ind: checking.  :)
[04:33] <juk> cfedde: hehe, here we go, thanks
[04:33] <Exploiter_Ind> userx64, is login out into graphical login is not working?
[04:33] <Lxndr> Samus_Aran: I run alsamixer, and I get 'cannot open mixer: connection refused'
[04:33] <cfedde> juk: cool!
[04:33] <Lxndr> Samus_Aran: when I do the lspci|grep audio, it comes up with nothing
[04:34] <Lxndr> Samus_Aran: It *used* to say "00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller"
[04:34] <userx64> Exploiter_Ind: You mean when I click log off, in order to log in as another user?
[04:34] <Exploiter_Ind> userx64, yes i think you can loggin into root
[04:34] <Lxndr> Samus_Aran: (at least according to my scrollback)
[04:34] <Exploiter_Ind> userx64, not sure.. bty
[04:34] <Boardinary>  /join #reddit-ubuntu
[04:35] <quiescens> lxndr: you should probably be using grep -i for that if you aren't already
[04:35] <userx64> Exploiter_Ind: I don't seem to have a log off.
[04:35] <Samus_Aran> Lxndr: if it doesn't show up in lspci, there is probably nothing that can be done from the OS.  if it is a card built into the motherboard, I would recommend rebooting and looking in the BIOS settings to see if "Onboard audio" is turned off, and turn it on.  if it's a PCI card, take it out and put it into another slot
[04:35] <Exploiter_Ind> ok
[04:35] <ajsie> how do i install deb packages on ubuntu server command line?
[04:35] <Exploiter_Ind> Samus_Aran: did it worked(icon) ??
[04:35] <Samus_Aran> quiescens: in this case, not needed.  the exact wording is "Multimedia audio controller"
[04:35] <rww> ajsie: sudo dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb for deb files that aren't in a repository
[04:35] <Lxndr> Samus_Aran: it is built into the motherboard. it was working before a most recent reboot.
[04:35] <Lxndr> Samus_Aran: Which makes me think it has something to do with the OS.
[04:35] <quiescens> samus_aran: wouldn't that depend on their chipset?
[04:36] <hasek79> how do i repair a package that was cancelled in an unfriendly way? the software center wont let me install anything it comes up with this error msg
[04:36] <quiescens> or do we alredy know what chipset they have
[04:36] <userx64> Exploiter_Ind: Do you have any suggestions beyond seeing if I am about to log out of the current user?
[04:36] <userx64> about = able
[04:36] <ajsie> rww: thanks!
[04:36] <sporkboy> Samus_Aran, rebooted straight to terminal login.
[04:36] <Exploiter_Ind> trial and error best way to learn new things.. !!
[04:37] <Samus_Aran> Exploiter_Ind: I don't have Gnome here, but the icon pack looks fine.  it has the proper folders.  however, it is not a complete icon pack, it replaces many icons, but doesn't have all of them.  are you sure it is supposed to include a folder icon?
[04:37] <Samus_Aran> Lxndr: if it doesn't show up in lspci, then the BIOS doesn't know about it
[04:37] <userx64> I am so frustrated. I clearly have a password for the root user, but the graphical login screen refuses to allow me to login with it.
[04:38] <quiescens> 143322 <Lxndr> Samus_Aran: It *used* to say "00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller"
[04:38] <Lxndr> Samus_Aran: Okay. I will point out it showed up before the most recent reboot.
[04:38] <quiescens> theirs clearly used to be Audio
[04:38] <Exploiter_Ind> Samus_Aran, yes most icons are replaced but most needed folder icons are not..
[04:38] <Samus_Aran> Lxndr: try rebooting, if that doesn't work, check the BIOS settings.  perhaps the battery is dead and it forgot the BIOS settings
[04:38] <quiescens> and not audio
[04:38] <junge> hi
[04:38] <quiescens> but hey, ignore me
[04:38] <Lxndr> Samus_Aran: Okay, rebooting again. I hope you're still here when I come back.
[04:38] <junge> #join slackware
[04:39] <Samus_Aran> Exploiter_Ind: okay, you'll just need to find another icon pack that has a folder icon you want.  it might also be the size, that icon pack has no 64x64 icons at all.  it only has 128x128 and sizes smaller than 64x64
[04:39] <sporkboy> userx64, I don't think you're supposed to be able to log into your gui as root. I'm pretty sure that's a security feature.
[04:39] <Exploiter_Ind> ok
[04:40] <fr0stbyte> is there a way to run "apt-get remove --purge xserver-xorg" without uninstalling ubuntu-desktop?
[04:40] <userx64> sporkboy: It's not recommended and I know the developers have not enabled it by default but I have never been outright restricted from it. That would be so Windows-like.
[04:40] <jjmwood1> I need help installing ubuntu
[04:40] <Samus_Aran> quiescens: okay, I have never seen that wording, and I've looked at hundreds of lspci outputs on dozens of computers over 10 years, Linux 2.2 through 2.6.  most likely that is from "lshw" or another similar app that is similar to lspci.  or maybe /proc/pci, which used to exist.
[04:41] <Samus_Aran> quiescens: or maybe I am wrong.  that sometimes happens, too.  :)
[04:41] <fr0stbyte> :O
[04:41] <sporkboy> userx64, why exactly do you want to log in as root? you probably don't need to do that, and if you do, you should be able to get out of x and then startx as root.
[04:42] <juk> can use wireshark to monitor traffic on the remote?
[04:42] <jjmwood1> Im using ubuntu right now i just need it on my laptop and it just boots in command line. Someone please help
[04:42] <Samus_Aran> fr0stbyte: ubuntu-desktop is a meta package which lists a bunch of packages, so if you remove one of its dependencies, you also remove it.  if you're just doing something temporary, then you can use dpkg and have it ignore dependencies
[04:42] <rohan> anyone noticed that wifi on ubuntu 10.10 is hellishly slow with atheros cards?
[04:42] <PratikPatel> i did
[04:42] <cfedde> jjmwood1: which version did you install?
[04:42] <jjmwood1> 10.10
[04:43] <Samus_Aran> rohan: my father has an Atheros card on an old Ubuntu version, and it never goes over 100KB/sec
[04:43] <rohan> PratikPatel: what did you do to solve it?
[04:43] <MTecknology> I've enjoyed openbox for a long while... but I've decided I'm starting to grow tired of it..... Now I need to figure out the replacement....
[04:43] <fr0stbyte> thanks Samus, im not sure how to do that dpkg & ignore dependencies, but im googling it
[04:43] <Samus_Aran> well, 150KB/sec sometimes...
[04:43] <cfedde> jjmwood1: what happens when you run startx from the command line?
[04:43] <rohan> Samus_Aran: any solution?
[04:43] <jjmwood1> i used the minial cd to do it
[04:43] <MTecknology> This is gonna be hard..
[04:43] <PratikPatel> rohan, I didn't
[04:43] <rohan> PratikPatel: so..? changed the card?
[04:43] <Samus_Aran> rohan: I just bought an ethernet extension cord for him...  :/  sorry.
[04:43] <userx64> sporkboy: You're right I don't. I guess I just prefer security risks and voiding accident insurance for convenience sake. That's a great suggestion but I plan on using root login regular. The fact is, I make a backup image of my system and restore it bi-weekly.
[04:43] <PratikPatel> rohan, nope
[04:43] <rohan> Samus_Aran: lol
[04:43] <rohan> !atheros
[04:43] <cfedde> jjmwood1: you probably just missed the X11 and gnome bits when you did that.
[04:44] <rohan> PratikPatel: then? you don't use wifi?
[04:44] <ajsie> should i install shellinabox_2.10-1_amd64.deb or shellinabox_2.10-1_i386.deb for my Ubuntu server?
[04:44] <cfedde> jjmwood1: you probably just need to install gnome.
[04:44] <Samus_Aran> rohan: there are several different drivers that work, so perhaps go compile the latest version from one of the projects that supports it.  there were two when I was setting it up for my father, one of them worked, the other I wasn't able to get it to do anything.
[04:44] <Samus_Aran> rohan: by "worked", I mean 150KB/sec max.
[04:44] <PratikPatel> rohan, I noticed weired things the issues only happend in some networks.
[04:44] <jjmwood1> How would i do that?
[04:44] <rohan> gah that's crap
[04:44]  * islington is away: Gone away for now
[04:45]  * islington is back.
[04:45] <cfedde> jjmwood1: probably 'sudo apt-get install gnome'
[04:46] <PratikPatel> rohan, i think it's a driver issue, because on those network my wireless adapter performed better in other not ideal operating systems.
[04:46] <cfedde> jjmwood1: that'll take a while to finish.
[04:46] <Samus_Aran> sporkboy: can you pastebin or /dcc send me the /tmp/info.txt output from this command: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf /var/log/Xorg.0.log /proc/modules > /tmp/info.txt
[04:46] <rohan> PratikPatel: yeah, wifi works fine for me on windwos
[04:46] <noiplease> What is the default username and password on a live cd?
[04:46] <jimisrvrox> hey anybody good with internet connection sharing? Ive got a few issues..
[04:47] <userx64> Ubuntu 10.10 uses a different mouse driver. I'm so happy I want to cry. I have been wanting a better driver for the mouse for years, to make window-dragging smoother.
[04:47] <sporkboy> userx64, I guess I don't understand what advantage that would have. afaik, the display managers have never let you log in as root. I guess you could ditch your display manager and log in on the console, then startx.
[04:47] <jjmwood1> I'm installing X11 right now.
[04:47] <cjac> Hi ubuntu community: I'm having a problem with what looks like a hard drive corruption. My netbook fails to boot normally. I think a simple fsck will fix the problem, but when I try to boot up into a live environment (10.04 made by unetbootin) that also fails. I turned off the 'splash' boot argument and I see errors I think showing a failure to mount /dev/sda. How can I boot up completely ignoring the harddrive so I can fix it?
[04:47] <Chaos2358> can some one please tell me if there is a music organizer that will search the web for missing track info and correct it automatically???
[04:47] <Samus_Aran> rohan: it's definitely a driver issue.  it is the usual problem of hardware manufacturers worrying about "trade secrets" and patents and such, and refusing to give out specs for their hardware.  reverse engineering wireless hardware is not very easy
[04:47] <rohan> Chaos2358: amarok
[04:47] <rohan> Samus_Aran: atheros driver is completely open
[04:47] <sporkboy> Samus_Aran, should I do Xorg.1.log since I've started x again?
[04:48] <Chaos2358> rohan,  amarok doesnt search the web for missing info
[04:48] <cfedde> jjmwood1: very cool.
[04:48] <noiplease> What is the default username and password on a live cd?
[04:48] <fr0stbyte> Samus, I ran "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" before the remove/purge, and it still says its going to remove ubuntu-desktop
[04:48] <Samus_Aran> rohan: which are very slow and crashy.
[04:48] <rohan> Chaos2358: hmm. on kde 3.5 it did
[04:48] <ajsie> how can i see what ubuntu version i have?
[04:48] <jjmwood1> Ok I tried to get Gnome but it said it could not find it
[04:48] <rohan> Samus_Aran: atk9k works fine on fedora..
[04:48] <bastidrazor> ajsie: lsb_release -a   in a terminal
[04:48] <Chaos2358> rohan,  yea not on lucid. cowbell has the option but wont actually connect
[04:49] <noiplease> nevermind. sorry
[04:49] <ajsie> bastidrazor: no such command
[04:49] <ajsie> lsb_release -a
[04:49] <ajsie> cat /etc/lsb-release
[04:49] <cfedde> jjmwood1: with the capital "G"? try with lower case.
[04:49] <ajsie> that worked however
[04:49] <bastidrazor> ajsie: cat /etc/issue
[04:50] <Samus_Aran> fr0stbyte: dpkg --force-all --purge package_name    ...but be careful using a shotgun on your system
[04:50] <jjmwood1> Nope, Still nothin
[04:50] <ajsie> what does lsb stand for?
[04:50] <Samus_Aran> ajsie: Linux Standards Base
[04:50] <ajsie> okay
[04:50] <rww> !lsb | ajsie
[04:51] <fr0stbyte> Samus, if you read above im pretty screwed anyway.. my user doesnt load desktop, freezes when it gets to my gnome bar. safemode and other users work fine
[04:51] <Samus_Aran> ajsie: it is a group that releases "suggestions" for how distros can lay out the filesystem, where systems files are placed and so forth.
[04:51] <fr0stbyte> thanks for the command :D
[04:51] <Samus_Aran> *system files
[04:51] <Lxndr> Samus_Aran: I tried rebooting. It didn'twork, so I got into the BIOS (I think) and everything was 'enabled'
[04:51] <sporkboy> Samus_Aran, I have no xorg.conf, but: http://pastebin.com/qCJLyvMf
[04:51] <ajsie> Samus_Aran: okay
[04:51] <Samus_Aran> Lxndr: try using a Live CD and see if the audio works, e.g. the Ubuntu Install CD
[04:52] <cfedde> jjmwood1: not sure what is broke.  Is the fully up to date? connected to the network? right repositories selected? etc?
[04:52] <PratikPatel> rohan, what version of fedora?
[04:52] <Lxndr> samus: The only ubuntu install CD I have is 8.04, and I have no CD burner. Should I do it?
[04:52] <Samus_Aran> Lxndr: I am guessing that it is a hardware issue, rather than a software one.  if it *does* work, then most likely an upgrade to the Linux kernel caused the disappearance
[04:52] <Lxndr> Samus_Aran: The only ubuntu install CD I have is 8.04, and I have no CD burner. Should I do it?
[04:52] <izinucs> how do you scroll back in byobu/screen and irssi.. pgUP/down doesn't work with screen
[04:52] <Samus_Aran> Lxndr: sure.  don't install it, simply boot to the Gnome desktop, then try playing a sound file and see if it works
[04:53] <rohan> PratikPatel: 14 beta
[04:53] <jjmwood1> Yeah. Im thinking its the Graphics Card. I have a Compaq Armada e500, The graphics card is a ATI Rage. Its an Older computer so it might not recignise it
[04:53] <Lxndr> Samus_Aran: Sadly, it's... integrated into the system. Dell Laptop.
[04:53] <PratikPatel> rohan, thanks
[04:53] <Lxndr> Samus_Aran: So if I do it, I'll be reinstalling.
[04:53] <Lxndr> Samus_Aran: I'm going to try one more reboot. Will be back for your answer.
[04:53] <Samus_Aran> izinucs: PageUp works fine in GNU Screen (using it at the moment in irssi).  it may be that your keyboard is a multimedia one that has screwed up scancodes.  what is byobu?
[04:54] <cfedde> jjmwood1: you'd expect some error message from the software rather than a failure to install.
[04:54] <izinucs> Samus_Aran: laptop
[04:54] <Samus_Aran> izinucs: if you go to a new screen and run the command "read" and press PageUp, what code is displayed?    mine is: ^[[5~
[04:54] <cfedde> jjmwood1: did install of X11 succeed?
[04:55] <izinucs> Samus_Aran: actually working now :/.. weird
[04:55] <jjmwood1> It said it is up to date. Maybe I need to reboot
[04:55] <cfedde> jjmwood1: probably not.
[04:55] <cfedde> now when you run startx you might see something.
[04:55] <wisevoyager> Hi! everybody!!! good day..
[04:56] <Samus_Aran> izinucs: irssi also has options for specifying how far up/down to scroll on each press of PageUp / PageDown.  I use 3 lines at a time, as otherwise I tend to lose track of where I was reading from.  :)
[04:56] <jjmwood1> I tried the Live CD that I used for this computer but when i click install Its just sits there and doesnt do anything
[04:56] <cfedde> jjmwood1: odd.
[04:56] <Samus_Aran> izinucs: if you want to change the scrollback options, check: /set scroll
[04:57] <izinucs> Samus_Aran: yea.. I've been using it for a while but really haven't needed to "dive" into it.
[04:57] <cfedde> not sure how to help.  I've had trouble installing 10.10 on an antique panasonic tough book cf-72.  But 8.04 ran great on that box.
[04:57] <ajsie> anyone gets this to work: http://code.google.com/p/shellinabox/ in Ubuntu 10.4?
[04:57] <cfedde> jjmwood1: not sure how to help.  I've had trouble installing 10.10 on an antique panasonic tough book cf-72.  But 8.04 ran great on that box.
[04:57] <izinucs> Samus_Aran: nice..
[04:57] <jjmwood1> Im going to try the live cd again
[04:57] <Samus_Aran> izinucs: or just go "/set" by itself to see all configuration options, there are tons.  :p
[04:58] <Samus_Aran> izinucs: also "/help" to get a list of commands, or e.g. "/help set" to get help on that irssi command.  very easy to figure things out using /set and /help.  I love irssi.  :)
[04:58] <spinningcompass> NFS server exports /srv/nfs successfully. Clients can mount and read/write the folder. Files can be shared. However, /srv/nfs/movies is the mountpoint of an external hard drive. The contents of contents of /srv/nfs/movies are not visible to clients, although the directory itself is visible. Does NFS automatically stop clients from viewing the contents of mountpoints?
[04:58] <Lxndr> Samus_Aran: I did a boot into an earlier kernel, and sound is now working. Any tips on making sure this becomes the 'default' kernel?
[04:59] <Samus_Aran> spinningcompass: yes
[04:59] <sporkboy> Samus_Aran, I think I found the actual problem in my kernel log: http://pastebin.com/c7Xb1N9S line 842-ish
[04:59] <fr0stbyte> heres an easy question: when i ctrl+alt+f1 or f2 or f7, and sometimes it shows text like "logitech g500: failed to initialize" but wont let me ctrl+c or z or d to get the command line, how without rebooting?
[04:59] <cfedde> spinningcompass: yes nfs does not span mountpoints.
[04:59] <izinucs> Samus_Aran: It's been my client of choice for a couple of years.. but you can tell how many of the features I actually use.. irssi and a split screen in screen has served me well.
[04:59] <Samus_Aran> spinningcompass: it only exports folders from a single filesystem.  not sure if there's an option to allow this, but you can just add a separate export for /srv/nfs/movies
[04:59] <fr0stbyte> at the black command area but cant enter any commands
[04:59] <Saik> anyone know the command for dleting one type of file from ANYWHERE on the harddrive?
[05:00] <Samus_Aran> izinucs: GNU Screen is by far my favourite app of all time, as it is so time-saving, efficient and useful
[05:00] <izinucs> Samus_Aran: do you use the split function?
[05:00] <clueless_> hi i am looking to dual boot ubuntu and snow leopard. i am using an imac. i am currently trying it and the one problem is that the speakers dont work. how can i fix that
[05:01] <Lxndr> Samus_Aran: While my reboot fixed my audio, it seems to have still killed my microphone. Any ideas on how to salvage that?
[05:01] <Samus_Aran> fr0stbyte: you need to log in on one of the virtual terminals.  I think by default F1 through F4 contain login screens.  7 is the first X screen, and others have status and error messages.  go to Ctrl+Alt+F1 and then hit Enter a few times until you can see the login text, then login as your user
[05:01] <Samus_Aran> izinucs: whenever I need to see several things at once, yes.  also the latest GNU Screen has vertical split-screen, which was one of only two annoyances I had with screen.  the other being no mouse support, which was fixed a year or two ago.
[05:02] <izinucs> Samus_Aran: how do you do verticle? and can you combine horizontal and verticle?
[05:02] <Samus_Aran> izinucs: it's also neat that some apps are "screen-aware", such as Links2, so you can tell it to open new browsing tabs in new Screen windows
[05:02] <fr0stbyte> thanks mate.. i feel like im getting somewhere here, my shell is now a higher resolution, used to be big text
[05:02] <Samus_Aran> izinucs: sure.  Ctrl+A |
[05:02] <Saik> anyone know the command for dleting one type of file from ANYWHERE on the harddrive?
[05:03] <sporkboy> Saik, couldn't you just pipe find to rm?
[05:03] <Samus_Aran> izinucs: easy to remember, as it looks like a vertical line.  Ctrl+A Shift+Q and Shift+X for closing splits.
[05:03] <AbhiJit> Saik, sudo rm /home/<username>/Desktop/file.ext
[05:03] <izinucs> Samus_Aran: that's easy :)  how do you switch sides
[05:03] <Samus_Aran> izinucs: Ctrl+A Tab
[05:03] <Lxndr> Samus_Aran: I am now getting sound, but lspci|grep audio is still returning nothing.
[05:03] <Samus_Aran> Lxndr: try: lspci|grep -i audio
[05:04] <izinucs> Samus_Aran: just found that.. same as horiz... just couldn't see the cursor..
[05:04] <Samus_Aran> Lxndr: I may have messed up
[05:04] <AbhiJit> bye
[05:04] <radikal> hello everybody    ..... i want install  a jar file java  some body can help me cuz  i have hours trid pliz
[05:04] <Saik> AbhiJit: would rm -rf ~/win *.tmp work?
[05:04] <Samus_Aran> izinucs: you can also set up fancy splits like I use, with colours and pretty separator lines
[05:04] <deadroot> hello all
[05:04] <Lxndr> Samus_Aran: Okay, that works. The reboot (with a different kernel/startup option) seems to have fixed my speakers, but it's still borked my microphone. Can you help with troubleshooting that?
[05:04] <cfedde> radikal: pretty much just drop it into a directory where Java will find it.
[05:04] <spinningcompass> cfedde, Samus_Aran: Thank you.
[05:04] <Saik> AbhiJit: I'm mounting  windowspartion to clean it the easy way
[05:04] <Samus_Aran> izinucs: I always have the title of the screen at the bottom, so I never forget what a screen is for.  Ctrl+A Shift+A to set the title of a screen
[05:05] <jjmwood1> Whoa! So far its installing
[05:05] <radikal> mmm so just i need put the file on the java carpet?
[05:05] <jjmwood1> From the live cd
[05:05] <izinucs> Samus_Aran: I've got one verticle and 2 horizontal.. yee ha..
[05:05] <Saik> sporkboy, I have nevertte,pted it, and it's not my pc
[05:05] <fr0stbyte> you can use the screen command to show more than 1 at a time?
[05:05] <Samus_Aran> radikal: you don't install jar files, you execute them with Java.  java -jar file.jar
[05:05] <fuqin> hi
[05:05] <sporkboy> Saik, what /exactly/ are you trying to do?
[05:05] <Saik> sporkboy, In other words, not experimenting without some research first, hence why I'm here
[05:05] <Samus_Aran> radikal: make sure you have an appropriate version of Java Runtime installed.  unless you know the app was designed to work with the open source Java versions, try using the official Sun Java
[05:06] <Saik> sporkboy,  I'm mounting  windows partion to clean it the easy way
[05:06] <radikal> i read i need uncomprez like .sh and after  run but the command lines  in terminal  i cant figurate
[05:06] <radikal> yes i have 1.6
[05:06] <deadroot> i've just learned that "sudo screen" has a slightly different behaviour than regular "screen" in regards to make. sudo screen doesn't expand environment variables like $JAVA_HOME whereas screen does
[05:06] <Saik> sporkboy,  XP pro and it's got alot of issues.. 2gb tmp files to start with
[05:06] <fuqin> i can't install a software named ppstream .who can help me
[05:06] <deadroot> does anybody know how to fix this?
[05:06] <sporkboy> Saik, nono... exactly what you're trying to do.
[05:07] <Samus_Aran> Saik: "rm -rf ~/win *.tmp" would forcibly remove the win folder in your home folder, and all files ending in ".tmp" in the current folder
[05:07] <fuqin> ppstream
[05:07] <fuqin> ppstream
[05:07] <fuqin> ppstream
[05:07] <FloodBot3> fuqin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:07] <Saik> sporkboy, remove all the.tmp files from the hard drive
[05:07] <fuqin> oh
[05:07] <monty_hall> just shared a folder.   Shouldn't it visible to windows machines?
[05:07] <sporkboy> saik... okay... gimme a sec.. but you can always test the command with something harmless like ls.
[05:08] <Samus_Aran> deadroot: I would recommend switching to root with a login shell, then loading screen.  that should have a proper environment.  I think sudo has an option to do a full login, lemme check
[05:08] <Saik> sporkboy, ok, thanks, I just booted the 2nd live Cd I have, gota mount it, brb
[05:08] <Samus_Aran> deadroot: try using: sudo -i screen
[05:08] <deadroot> Samus_Aran: source /etc/environment was explicitly loaded and $JAVA_HOME explicitly tests fine
[05:08] <JoeMaverickSett> fuqin: ppstream is a windows software, am i right?
[05:08] <deadroot> okay. i'll try that. thanks
[05:09] <Lxndr> Samus_Aran: It appears using lscpi|grep -i audio. The reboot (with a different kernel/startup option) seems to have fixed my speakers, but it's still borked my microphone. Can you help with troubleshooting that?
[05:09] <Samus_Aran> deadroot: if that doesn't work, you can use: sudo su -
[05:09] <Samus_Aran> deadroot: then run "screen"
[05:09] <adrian> que tranza komo stan to2
[05:09] <deadroot> Samus_Aran: that didn't worked
[05:09] <deadroot> trying alternate
[05:09] <Guest47454> a orales
[05:09] <Samus_Aran> deadroot: but make sure you close the old screen session first, so it isn't using the broken one
[05:09] <Guest47454> que chido
[05:10] <radikal> the program  trid to install is ultramixer
[05:10] <Samus_Aran> Guest47454: English only in #Ubuntu
[05:10] <Saik> sporkboy, ls finds nothing *.tmp
[05:10] <deadroot> Samus_Aran: oh. that worked! thanks :D
[05:10] <monty_hall> how do I share a folder so that windows can use?
[05:10] <researcher1> which site to use for image pasting
[05:11] <izinucs> monty_hall: right mouse click it and "share" .. it will install what's needed
[05:11] <sporkboy> Saik, do: find /mntpoint -name \*.tmp
[05:11] <monty_hall> I did that but I can't see the share on the windows machine.
[05:11] <Saik>  sporkboy, k brb
[05:12] <monty_hall> what's the default workgroup that ubuntu uses?
[05:12] <izinucs> !samba | monty_hall
[05:12] <sporkboy> Saik, if that shows the files you're wanting to remove, then this will delete them: find /mntpoint -name \*.tmp | xargs -ifile rm -rf file
[05:12] <zion_> hello
[05:12] <Ameth> I am thinking of building an box just for ubuntu that is low power but can still do a lot of stuff. I am thinking intel Atom and a Nividia ION. Is this a good choice or should I go with a different cpu/gpu
[05:12] <Samus_Aran> deadroot: "su" is "switch user".  if it is run by a user other than root, it will ask for that user's password before logging in, e.g. "su jane".  if you do "su - jane" then it does a full login shell, and loads /etc/profile and the rest of the environment.  if you don't give a name, it switches to the root user.
[05:13] <monty_hall> thanks
[05:13] <izinucs> Ameth: should work well
[05:13] <SoulShadow|Lappy> ubuntu 10.04 here...dual battery icons?
[05:13] <Samus_Aran> deadroot: there is a way for sudo to do a full login shell, but if it's not -i then I'm not sure
[05:13] <SoulShadow|Lappy> and they both direct to the same battery
[05:13] <SoulShadow|Lappy> lol
[05:13] <Barridus> heya, someone mentioned i can use the alternate install ISO to do a distro update without having to download all the packages from the slowest servers ever through the update manager.  i've got the iso, what do i do with it?
[05:13] <Saik>  sporkboy, find -name *.tmp lists tons so I'm supposed to add | xargs -ifile rm -rf name to the command?
[05:13] <Samus_Aran> monty_hall: either use FAT32 (with the vfat driver) or NTFS (with the ntfs-3g driver)
[05:13] <rww> fuqin: FloodBot1 is a bot; it is unlikely to have enough sentience to help you.
[05:13] <voss749> ubuntu 10.10 nbr is a mess
[05:13] <izinucs> Samus_Aran: deadroot sudo login shell is the "rescue" kernel
[05:14] <Samus_Aran> monty_hall: unless you mean a network share, then you can use Samba or NFS
[05:14] <Saik>  sporkboy, find -name *.tmp lists tons so I'm supposed to add "| xargs -ifile rm -rf name" to the command? *
[05:14] <deadroot> Samus_Aran: so "sudo -i" is supposed to have the same effect as "sudo su -". unfortunately that didn't succeeded
[05:14] <Samus_Aran> researcher1: tinypic.com is nice
[05:14] <researcher1> Samus_Aran: thanks
[05:14] <izinucs> deadroot: sudo -i should work.. the last character on the terminal prompt will change to # from $
[05:15] <Samus_Aran> deadroot: sudo -i says it will run the command with a full login first
[05:15] <deadroot> izinucs: it did. but the make still failed to expand the environment variable
[05:15] <sporkboy> Saik, yes. that will send the list of files to xargs, which will execute rm -rf on each of them. I don't know that the -rf is needed, but it might save you some hassling with directories and certain files.
[05:16] <fr0stbyte> sweet, i just read the gnu screen guide and its awesome. never would have known, thanks samus and whoever brought it up
[05:16] <sporkboy> Saik,  wait, no... xargs -ifile rm -rf file.
[05:16] <izinucs> fr0stbyte: :)
[05:16] <Saik> sporkboy, so not "name" but "file"?
[05:16] <researcher1> Samus_Aran: I mean to ask guidance on screenshots of system failure not any other pictures
[05:17] <sporkboy> Saik, yes. actually, you can use any word, just use the same one on the -i and after rm. ( xargs -igoobersmooch rm -rf goobersmooch would work just the same)
[05:18] <Saik> sporkboy, gotcha. thanks. I'll let ya know if it works.
[05:20] <SoulShadow|Lappy> so, yeah, anyone know why ubuntu would randomly decide to show me two battery icons? it shows it on the normal install i always use, and then a secondary install i keep just incase, that has nothing installed to it
[05:21] <Noctis_Lux> hi
[05:21] <sporkboy> SoulShadow|Lappy, maybe you have two batteries?
[05:21] <SoulShadow|Lappy> i don't
[05:21] <Samus_Aran> sporkboy, Saik: GNU Find has a built-in method which replaces xargs: find /some/folder -name '*.abc' -exec rm -rf {} +
[05:21] <SoulShadow|Lappy> both icons show the same battery, and it's never shown it before today
[05:21] <Samus_Aran> sporkboy, Saik: the + acts the same as passing to xargs
[05:22] <Saik> Samus_Aran, thanks, bu its already been entered and run
[05:22] <sporkboy> Samus_Aran, sweet. maybe I'll actually remember it next time I need it ;)
[05:22] <izinucs> SoulShadow|Lappy: that's funny.. my battery icon just disappeared.. I'm plugged in but it's usually sitting there showing me it's charging
[05:23] <Saik> sporkboy, probably not though lol  there is something helpful in rm, but long forgot it lol
[05:23] <SoulShadow|Lappy> izinucs, that usually means it's not charging nor being used
[05:23] <SoulShadow|Lappy> but yeah, i took this laptop apart and put it back together, because the charge port was being finicky, and now i have two battery icons, wtfs
[05:23] <Saik> sporkboy, sent ya pm to not distract the chan
[05:23] <izinucs> SoulShadow|Lappy: yep.. just yanked the cord and it reappeared
[05:24] <sporkboy> okay... apparently my nvidia kernel module and 'client' are different versions. how do I get the newer kernel module in?
[05:28] <towlie> i installed chromium in ubuntu maverick but flash doesnt work and i cant install it since it says that i already have flash. how do i fix this
[05:29] <evilrobotsquid> Besides changing startup items and effects, is there an easy way to speed up ubuntu?
[05:30] <Samus_Aran> researcher1: screenshots of system failures means that the screenshot can't be taken by the OS (unless running in a virtual machine), so just use a digital camera and take a shot of the screen.  :)
[05:31] <towlie> can anyone help me
[05:31] <researcher1> Samus_Aran: then where do i post it to seek help paste.ubuntu.com or what
[05:31] <evilrobotsquid> towlie, What do you need help with?
[05:32] <towlie> EvilPhoenix, im using google chrome (chromium) on maverick but no flash videos will play. it says flash is missing.
[05:32] <Samus_Aran> towlie: most likely all you need to do is symlink the flash .so file from wherever it is installed, to the place where Chromium looks for plugins (or else tell Chromium to look in the default place where Mozilla Firefox and others look for plugins)
[05:32] <yo__landi> towlie: most likely all you need to do is symlink the flash .so file from wherever it is installed, to the place where Chromium looks for plugins (or else tell Chromium to look in the default place where Mozilla Firefox and others look for plugins)
[05:32] <towlie> chrome is supposed to just have flash included
[05:33] <yo__landi> chrome is supposed to just have flash included
[05:33] <towlie> i checked the plugins
[05:33] <yo__landi> i checked the plugins
[05:33] <towlie> huh
[05:33] <yo__landi> huh
[05:33] <SoulShadow|Lappy> lol
[05:33] <yo__landi> lol
[05:33] <towlie> lol
[05:33] <yo__landi> lol
[05:33] <SoulShadow|Lappy> wtf lol
[05:33] <soreau> !lol
[05:33] <soreau> !wtf
[05:33] <yo__landi> wtf lol
[05:33] <yo__landi> !lol
[05:33] <yo__landi> !wtf
[05:34] <soreau> ! ops | yo__landi
[05:34] <yo__landi> ! ops | yo__landi
[05:34] <towlie> what do i do
[05:34] <yo__landi> yo__landi, please see my private message
[05:34] <Mohan_chml> yo__landi: you will be kicked away. stop spamming
[05:34] <Samus_Aran> !ops spammers
[05:34] <yo__landi> yo__landi: you will be kicked away. stop spamming
[05:34] <yo__landi> !ops spammers
[05:34] <rww> hrm?
[05:34] <rww> oh, yay, a repeatbot.
[05:35] <Mohan_chml> done =]
[05:35] <yolandi> oh, yay, a repeatbot.
[05:35] <yolandi> done =]
[05:35] <rww> IdleOne: ^^
[05:35] <yolandi> IdleOne: ^^
[05:35] <Samus_Aran> IdleOne: merci beaucoup.  :)
[05:36] <gbear14275> I'm having problems getting my ubuntuone client to launch.  Anyone here able to help be troubleshoot what might be going on?
[05:36] <Samus_Aran> towlie: are you using a 32bit or 64bit Chromium and Ubuntu ?
[05:36] <rww> gbear14275: If someone here can't, #ubuntuone might be able to.
[05:36] <towlie> 32 bit
[05:36] <towlie> for both
[05:37] <gbear14275> rww: #ubuntuone seems a bit dead :(
[05:37] <git__> i'm excited about the future for Ubuntu
[05:37] <rww> gbear14275: indeed
[05:37] <gbear14275> um... do you guys have someone named yolandi mirroring your chat?
[05:37] <towlie> yea
[05:38] <Samus_Aran> IdleOne: yolandi is sending copies of lines to everyone, please kickban them
[05:39] <Samus_Aran> towlie: have you tried running it as: chromium-browser --enable-plugins
[05:39] <rww> I believe --enable-plugins is the default these days.
[05:39] <Samus_Aran> towlie: it seems that the default plugin folder for Chromium is located at: /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins/
[05:39] <towlie> its already enabled
[05:39] <Samus_Aran> towlie: check to make sure the 32bit libflashplugin.so is located in that folder
[05:40] <Samus_Aran> rww: okay, I don't use Chromium.  just saw that on Google.  :p
[05:40] <infid> should i use nfs if i'm doing ubuntu-to-ubuntu sharing or is cifs better?
[05:41] <Samus_Aran> infid: I would recommend NFS, it is easier to set up
[05:42] <ForgeAus> hey all ... still having wacky wubi problems ...
[05:42] <ForgeAus> but I'm not so sure its wubi itself that is the problem
[05:42] <jjmwood1> I have a Question: You know how you can access your account from any computer in the School? How could I do that?
[05:43] <ForgeAus> jjmwood1, depends do you have some kind of internet connection between both?... something like vnc or  remote desktop connection can help there
[05:43] <gbear14275> ssh?
[05:43] <ForgeAus> yes or ssh... thats another wayt
[05:43] <infid> thanks Samus_Aran
[05:44] <gbear14275> anyone familiar with ubuntuone on CLI?
[05:44] <ForgeAus> gbear14275, uh can you be more specfic?
[05:44] <jjmwood1> Both my Computers are running Ubuntu 10.10 and there connected to the internet through a router
[05:44] <ForgeAus> CLI as in command line interface right?
[05:45] <gbear14275> ForgeAus: I'm having problems running my ubuntuone client from the desktop... was thinking perhaps cli would work instead
[05:45] <gbear14275> ForgeAus: yes
[05:45] <Samus_Aran> infid: have you used NFS before?  I can quickly walk you through the basics if you like
[05:45] <ForgeAus> jjmwood1, then you just need some software, either for CLI something like ssh, or for GUI client-server software like vnc or remote dekstop connection
[05:46] <jjmwood1> Ok thanks
[05:46] <ForgeAus> gbear can you be more specific about what kind of problems?
[05:47] <Samus_Aran> jjmwood1: FreeNX works well for shared desktops... if you can get it working.  last time I tried it was a royal pain in the ass to set up, but it's quicker than TightVNC
[05:47] <gbear14275> ForgeAus: I can't get the client up and I'm not sure if my folders are synching.  I just tried to synch a new folder and can't see it online.  Tried to launch the gui app... and nothing came up.
[05:47] <Samus_Aran> VNC is slow if it's not over a LAN
[05:47] <SoulShadow|Lappy> vnc isn't that slow
[05:47] <cfedde> vnc is pretty slow over a dialup.
[05:48] <izinucs> jjmwood1: teamviewer
[05:48] <cfedde> just use RDP if you want to share desktops.
[05:48] <evilrobotsquid> izinucs, I know teamviewer is huge, but the website is so sketchy!
[05:48] <SoulShadow|Lappy> it's not that sketchy
[05:48] <izinucs> evilrobotsquid: why do you say that?
[05:49] <Samus_Aran> SoulShadow|Lappy: compared to an efficient desktop sharing app, it is.  Remote Administrator for Windows supports 16-colour mode which allows it to perform smoothly from across the world on dial-up.  VNC supports at lowest 256 colour mode, and is 5+ times slower than Remote Admin.  there's no way to optimise VNC for dial-up
[05:49] <evilrobotsquid> izinucs, It's just so cookie-cutter.  I really thought it was spyware until I heard from all the people (and companies) that use it.
[05:49] <jimisrvrox> cfedde: RDP would be faster than VNC? Im trying to set me one up and am having some probs
[05:49] <jjmwood1> I have tried teamviewer but what I mean is When I log on I Have the same stuff in my profile when im on the laptop or the Desktop
[05:50] <ForgeAus> gbear14275, ahh I see what your saying, I don't know mch about that online ubuntu one stuff...
[05:50] <SoulShadow|Lappy> oh, i didn't realize we were talking dial up
[05:50] <cfedde> jimisrvrox: I guess I default to rdp because most of my coworkers use windows world stuff.
[05:50] <Samus_Aran> I use TightVNC as it is easier to set up than anything else on any OS, heh.  but it is very slow compared to RDP, Remote Administrator, NX-Server, etc.
[05:50] <SoulShadow|Lappy> i forgot people still used dialup
[05:50] <izinucs> evilrobotsquid: just by the look of it? It does have a corporate "want to make money" feel to it..
[05:50] <gbear14275> ForgeAus: ok thanks anyways...  I'll keep poking around google
[05:50] <ForgeAus> vnc is ok... rdp is ok whatever works for jjmwood1  is what matters
[05:50] <jimisrvrox> cfedde: are you good with setting up vnc stuff?
[05:50] <jimisrvrox> on linux of cours
[05:50] <gbear14275> ForgeAus: I killed a couple processes... seems like something is happening now
[05:50] <ForgeAus> gbear14275,  I recommend you check your network/internet settings to make sure your online first of all
[05:51] <cfedde> jimisrvrox: I have done it.  Not much of a challenge iirc.
[05:51] <Samus_Aran> RDP served from Linux is far more difficult to set up than TightVNC.  easy as a client, just install a GUI app and run it
[05:51] <cfedde> jimisrvrox: but most of the time ssh is all I realy want linux to linux.
[05:51] <gbear14275> ForgeAus: chatting with you :)
[05:51] <ForgeAus> gbear14275, also does ubuntu one have any way to check their remote services are online and running?
[05:51] <gbear14275> ForgeAus: yes, but I need to find out how again...
[05:51] <izinucs> ForgeAus: yes..
[05:52] <Samus_Aran> SoulShadow|Lappy: even on DSL and Cable, TightVNC is very slow.  you can watch it drawing windows on the screen, and there are often 5 second lag bursts.  Remote Admin is smoother than that even on dial-up.
[05:52] <ForgeAus> Samus_Aran, that depends on your distro and what come with it, but it can be
[05:52] <gbear14275> 2010-10-17 - We're currently investigating a problem that is preventing the client from connecting to the service.
[05:52] <SoulShadow|Lappy> i've not used tightvnc, i've only vnc'd on windows and it was a while back, i can't remember
[05:52] <SoulShadow|Lappy> what i used
[05:52] <ForgeAus> Samus_Aran, I've seen RDP working out of the box, hassle free before...
[05:52] <gbear14275> found my issue...
[05:52] <Samus_Aran> SoulShadow|Lappy: VNC also does not store a screen buffer, so if you Alt+Tab to another window, or switch to another desktop and back, it re-downloads the **entire screen**.  painfully slow
[05:52] <ForgeAus> Samus_Aran, but that could just be an isolated case
[05:53] <SoulShadow|Lappy> Samus_Aran, there's nothin saying VNC can't store one
[05:53] <Samus_Aran> ForgeAus: which distro is it easy on?  I've tried on Ubuntu and didn't get RDP to do much other than crash when the user tries to login from a GDM-like interface
[05:53] <SoulShadow|Lappy> there are other VNC programs
[05:53] <jimisrvrox> cfedde: right...well im trying to set up VNC linux to linux and hopefully through ssh tunnel like youre talking about...but im trying to set it up where I piggyback off of one pc's wireless and connect via ethernet to another box
[05:53] <ForgeAus> gbear14275,  :) awesome
[05:53] <Samus_Aran> SoulShadow|Lappy: open source, for GNU+Linux?  I only know of TightVNC (doesn't support it) and standard VNC (also doesn't support it)
[05:53] <gbear14275> ForgeAus: well kinda... just means the problem is something I can't fix :)
[05:54] <cfedde> jimisrvrox: if you're going linux to linux I see almost no need to see the remote desktop unless you're collaborating with the remote user.
[05:54] <jimisrvrox> cfedde: you think you might be able to help in that situation? Host PC is PCLinuxOS and of course their support chan is dead but im trying to figure out where I can go to set a static IP for eth0 and have it survive reboot if necessary..
[05:54] <SoulShadow|Lappy> ew pclinuxos
[05:54] <Samus_Aran> SoulShadow|Lappy: Windows has many more VNC clients than does GNU+Linux, unfortunately.  many are shareware or commercial
[05:54] <ubuntu91human> HELP
[05:54] <SoulShadow|Lappy> Samus_Aran, no closed-source free ones?
[05:54] <izinucs> jimisrvrox: wicd will let you do that.. network-manager didn't for me
[05:54] <ForgeAus> Samus_Aran, to be honest I Cant remember which distro, all I remember was that it was KDE-based... so it wasn't Ubuntu specifically, may have been Kubuntu or PCLinusOS... they're the most likely candidates
[05:55] <jimisrvrox> cfedde: well I would like to see the remote desktop but I think I can do cd burning via command line no?
[05:55] <ubuntu91human> my PC was Ubuntu 10.04LTS,
[05:55] <cfedde> if you want some app from the remote to display on the local just be sure to use -X
[05:55] <cfedde> jimisrvrox: you can.
[05:55] <cfedde> easier to just to a remote X login.
[05:55] <Samus_Aran> SoulShadow|Lappy: it has been years since I tried all the VNC clients/servers I could find, but most were either timed trials or limited free versions
[05:55] <cfedde> imho
[05:55] <cfedde> set up gdm to permit remote logins.
[05:55] <Samus_Aran> jimisrvrox: sure, you can do almost anything from text mode.  :)
[05:56] <ForgeAus> jimisrvrox, I think #linux would be more appropriate for PCLinuxOS help if their support channel is mostly dead
[05:56] <juk> can use wireshark to monitor traffic on the remote?
[05:56] <Samus_Aran> cfedde: how?
[05:56] <cfedde> Samus_Aran: I need to research details.. give me a minute or two.
[05:56] <jimisrvrox> Samus_Aran: im aware of that :) Im just trying to figure out how to set the static IP to survive reboot :)
[05:56] <ubuntu91human> I put Ubuntu 10.10 on my CD-ROM driver and try to install 10.10 into my USB-pen, but Ubuntu 10.10 doesn't offer a choice where to put Boot Loader to
[05:56] <Samus_Aran> cfedde: I see the option for remote stuff in GDM, but I've never actually encountered anyone using anything remote with GDM, heh
[05:57] <cfedde> Samus_Aran: it was the way we used to do things back when X11 "terminals" were popular.
[05:57] <Samus_Aran> ubuntu91human: there is an "Advanced" button, or something similar, which asks you where to install GRUB to.  it should be right at the end of the install
[05:57]  * SoulShadow|Lappy is afraid of the 10.04 -> 10.10 upgrade button
[05:57] <ubuntu91human> so 10.10 cover my original boot settings, so that I can not boot without my USB-Pen driver,
[05:57] <ForgeAus> SoulShadow lol I don't blame you
[05:57] <ubuntu91human> Samus_Aran please help
[05:57] <SoulShadow|Lappy> not that i have anything worth saving on here, but still
[05:57] <Samus_Aran> cfedde: I have used LTSP before, which was a very nice solution for computer labs, but that's only "remote" about 20 feet.  :p
[05:58] <ForgeAus> Samus_Aran, souns like fun :)
[05:58] <ubuntu91human> I just want my 10.04 BACK
[05:58] <Krishnandu> SoulShadow|Lappy, I'll upgrade after 1 or 2month...
[05:58] <cfedde> Samus_Aran: X11 over the net can be a pain. Though there are protocols for compressing it.
[05:59] <ubuntu91human> I cannot boot without my USB-pendriver
[05:59] <ForgeAus> hmm Cannonball's quit message lied they don't have to be EXTREMEly large values of two, just large enough tto be rounded up instead of down
[05:59] <ubuntu91human> how to restore all the boot stuff?
[05:59] <jimisrvrox> so cfedde would you know how to be able to ping from Host B to Host A through ethernet? Because I have established Static IP's on eht0 on Host A and Static IP on Host B but could not get the two iface's to ping..
[05:59] <Samus_Aran> ForgeAus: it's very efficient.  get one high powered quad-core server with lots of RAM, and then a dozen or two 486s or Pentium 1s and you can run all the browsers/office apps/etc. just fine.  very cheap labs, as you can get the dumb terminals for free
[05:59] <ubuntu91human> so I can boot from HDD and shows a menu and automatically booting if I didn't choose in 10 seconds
[06:00] <Samus_Aran> ForgeAus: oh, and a decent fast switch
[06:00] <Samus_Aran> gigabit from the server to the switch, 100Mbps to the individual computers
[06:00] <ubuntu91human> can't I just recover my 10.04?
[06:00] <jjmwood1>  ubuntu91human: Why can you just Put 10.10 On a flash drive, Delete the 10.10 and reinstall
[06:00] <cfedde> jimisrvrox: are both devices connected to the same hub/switch?
[06:00] <cfedde> jimisrvrox: are they configured in the same /24 network?
[06:01] <ubuntu91human> the 10.10 is now on my USB-pen, but my HDD one still has 10.04 intact.
[06:01] <Samus_Aran> jimisrvrox: how are they physically connected?  if they are a direct cable connection, you need to use a cross-over cable
[06:01] <Samus_Aran> jimisrvrox: past that,  simply confirm they are on the same sub-net
[06:01] <ubuntu91human> I just need to restore my booting proeess
[06:01] <cfedde> jimisrvrox: can each system ping their own IP address?
[06:01] <ubuntu91human> jjmwood1 please help
[06:01] <Krishnandu> ubuntu91human, Remove the PenDrive, Boot from Ubuntu Live CD and reinstall GRUB
[06:01] <ubuntu91human> Krishnandu, I will try, tell me how please
[06:01] <cfedde> Samus_Aran: jimisrvrox with most modern 1Gbit cards you don't even need a crossover.  They autodetect as part of the defualt protocol.
[06:02] <Krishnandu> ubuntu91human, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[06:02] <ubuntu91human> thank you Krishnandu
[06:02] <jjmwood1>  ubuntu91human: Remove the USB-Pen and boot off the HDD
[06:03] <ubuntu91human> I'm going to try now, hope this works
[06:03] <SoulShadow|Lappy> yeah, modern NIC's autodetect
[06:03] <cfedde> Samus_Aran: re remote x11 consoles.  The details are in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[06:03] <ubuntu91human> but if I remove usb pen, it will show that it can't find a device
[06:03] <Krishnandu> ubuntu91human, BTW isn't Ubuntu 10.04 in the menu..??
[06:03] <cfedde> Samus_Aran: the section in there you are looking for is the XDMCP part. And you want to enable it.
[06:03] <cfedde> Samus_Aran: that is on the server side.
[06:04] <Krishnandu> ubuntu91human, Ohh that means bootloader got installed in pen drive, but still what about the old bootloader in HDD??
[06:04] <cfedde> er.. the xwindows .. client... hehe.
[06:04] <ubuntu91human> yes, Ubuntu 10.04 is still on the menu, but not the first options, the first 2 were Ubuntu 10.10
[06:04] <fr0stbyte> what do you think would cause my shell to say "[   9.504959 ] Too many connections." when loading ubuntu (before login) - it stalls my reboot. looks like a mysql error
[06:04] <Testerski> hello
[06:04] <Samus_Aran> cfedde: I had heard about that, but not actually seen it in action.
[06:04] <Samus_Aran> cfedde: in the GDM configuration in /etc/gdm/ ?
[06:04] <Krishnandu> ubuntu91human, first tell me where is your bootloader installed?? Pendrive or HDD??
[06:04] <Testerski> I want to install my Huawei 3G USB modem in my Ubuntu 9.4
[06:05] <ubuntu91human> Krishnandu, nope, if the bootloder was in USB-pen, it should have boot from USB alone, but it can't
[06:05] <cfedde> Samus_Aran: in the section about xdmcp
[06:05] <Samus_Aran> cfedde: thanks, I will try that some time soonish  :)
[06:05] <cfedde> heh.
[06:05] <cfedde> it's pretty cool.
[06:05] <Testerski> but in all instructions i've found there is needed an internet connection
[06:05] <jjmwood1>  ubuntu91human: So is Ubuntu 10.04 one of the Optiond to boot from?
[06:05] <ubuntu91human> it can only boot from HDD + USB plug-in, CAN NOT boot from USB-alone (but CAN when my USB-pen was Ubuntu 10.04)
[06:05] <Krishnandu> ubuntu91human, that means bootloader is in HDD, then just remove the pen drive and boot into 10.04 and do sudo update-grub
[06:05] <Testerski> anyone can help me install it without internet ?
[06:06] <Samus_Aran> Testerski: where are the instructions for installing it *with* an Internet connection?
[06:06] <ubuntu91human> I can easily install Ubuntu 10.04 right into USB-Pen without any problem. and I can boot any PC from USB-pen with Ubuntu 10.04 inside.
[06:07] <jimisrvrox> Samus_Aran: yeah I forgot about the cross-over cable thing heh and im in the cisco networking class :) But your standard ethernet cable is a cross-over afaik so mine are connected from ethernet port to ethernet port and at one time I had it where I could ping both ifaces on Host A and Im not sure if Host B can ping its own iface
[06:07] <ubuntu91human> 10.10 sucks!! It never shows an option where to put GRUB to, that's why I am now in this shape
[06:07] <cfedde> jimisrvrox: the standard rj45 cat 4 cable is streight through.
[06:08] <ubuntu91human> I was just trying to install 10.10 into my USB-pen from Ubuntu 10.04
[06:08] <cfedde> jimisrvrox: if ping is working through a standard cable then it's because the cards are smart enough to detect polarity and self cross.
[06:08] <Samus_Aran> jimisrvrox: cfedde reminded me that some cards autosense needing to swap the wires and doing it.  but if yours doesn't, try with a switch.  but are you on the same subnet on each?  e.g. run "ifconfig" and check the Mask:...... part, on each
[06:08] <markboston> is gpg already installed or do i have to install it?
[06:08] <ubuntu91human> but now both my Ubuntu 10.04 and USB-pen(was Ubuntu 10.04 too) all mess up because of this SHIT GRUB stuff!!!
[06:09] <rww> markboston: It's already installed
[06:09] <ubuntu91human> tell me exactly what to do to fix my PC first? I don't care about my USB-pen, it's the easy part, since I can install 10.04 into USB-pen anytime again.
[06:10] <Samus_Aran> ubuntu91human: we have provided instructions for how to reinstall GRUB.  follow them.  :)  or do what I said, and look for the button that lets you choose where to install GRUB to
[06:10] <jimisrvrox> Samus_Aran: I would think it would be ok for them to be on the same subnet
[06:10] <Samus_Aran> jimisrvrox: they need to be on the same sub-net to ping each other
[06:10] <Samus_Aran> jimisrvrox: or else have a bridge between the nets
[06:10] <jimisrvrox> right
[06:10] <ubuntu91human> 10.04 has better installation options which 10.10 doesn't have
[06:10] <Krishnandu> ubuntu91human, you said you can't boot without the pendrive right..?? This means your bootloader got installed in pendrive, so follow the link that I provided you
[06:11] <Samus_Aran> jimisrvrox: or a gateway, e.g. to the Internet.  what are the two IPs, and what are their Masks ?
[06:11] <ubuntu91human> Krishnandu, if bootloader got installed in pendriver, it would have booted from Pen-driver alone, but it cannot
[06:11] <jose> wola
[06:12] <Krishnandu> ubuntu91human, so can you boot your PC without the pendrive..??
[06:12] <JackStoner> is there a way to use a proxy with irssi ??
[06:12] <ubuntu91human> but I CAN boot from my Pen-driver ALONE when it is 10.04 inside of pendriver.
[06:12] <Krishnandu> ubuntu91human, god forget past...and answer what I'm asking...
[06:12] <ubuntu91human> nope, I cannot boot my PC without pendriver, it will shows, cannot find a device
[06:13] <ubuntu91human> I am asnwering
[06:13] <Krishnandu> ubuntu91human, ok...and you can't boot from the pendrive alone..??
[06:13] <ubuntu91human> cannot
[06:13] <ubuntu91human> both PC or pendriver fail to boot alone
[06:13] <Krishnandu> lol...whr is the bootloader then...
[06:13] <Krishnandu> anyway...
[06:14] <ubuntu91human> but I am 100% sure it can boot from PC alone or pendriver alone just 1 days ago.
[06:14] <Krishnandu> ubuntu91human, remove pendrive, boot from live cd and follow the link to restore grub
[06:14] <ubuntu91human> which means, both PC and Pen dirver have their own bootloder, each one!!! No problem!!! but nOW, all gone!!!
[06:14] <chiques> I lost my speaker icon after and update. anyone have any ideas on how to get it back?
[06:15] <ubuntu91human> Krishnandu, I will  do your steps
[06:15] <Krishnandu> ubuntu91human, ok. leave it...follow the link without the pendrive plugged in...
[06:15] <ubuntu91human> Krishnandu, please stay put here please, I will thank you, I know how to thank.
[06:15] <ubuntu91human> just help me out of this
[06:16] <Krishnandu> lol...ya...
[06:16] <ubuntu91human> now I need to to your steps, so I will boot from LIVE CD, you mean 10.04 LIVE CD right?
[06:16] <RedSingularity> Whats the command to do a distro upgrade?
[06:17] <ubuntu91human> give me the link again please
[06:17] <SoulShadow|Lappy> update-manager, go to settings, check to see if it's set to 'lts only'
[06:17] <SoulShadow|Lappy> if not, then check for updates, it'll pop up in the corner
[06:17] <SoulShadow|Lappy> 'new ubuntu 10.10 is available'
[06:17] <Krishnandu> Ya..boot from 10.04 or 10.10 doesn't matter...but make sure pendrive is unplugged...
[06:17] <Krishnandu> ubuntu91human, ^^
[06:17] <ubuntu91human> I don't trust 10./10
[06:18] <Krishnandu> ubuntu91human, lol...then boot from 10.03
[06:18] <RedSingularity> SoulShadow|Lappy:  I want to do it from a terminal.....need the command.  Was it apt-get dist-upgrade?
[06:18] <ubuntu91human> because I am sure I didn't see any option in installing process
[06:18] <Krishnandu> *10.04
[06:18] <jimisrvrox> Samus_Aran: you got PM disabled?
[06:18] <SoulShadow|Lappy> uhh
[06:18] <ubuntu91human> okay, see you later, Krishnandu please stay here, ok? 15 mins
[06:18] <ubuntu91human> I'll be back in 15 mins~ 20 mins
[06:19] <epaphus> Does anybody know what is the relationship between a load average and percentage of cpu used? is there any relatioship??
[06:19] <ubuntu91human> wait for me ok?
[06:19] <rilliam> I am running 10.10 amd64 is there a way to run memtest86 ?
[06:19] <SoulShadow|Lappy> i don't know how to do it from that way, RedSingularity
[06:19] <Krishnandu> ubuntu91human, Ya...I'm here... :)
[06:19] <shades> is this where i can ask xubuntu questions?
[06:19] <ubuntu91human> Krishnandu, I'll be back in 20 mins
[06:19] <Krishnandu> shades, #xubuntu
[06:19] <Samus_Aran> jimisrvrox: no, I was just on another IRC network
[06:19] <kcj> My sound icon is not showing up in the tray when I log in on 10.10. Can anyone help me?
[06:20] <Krishnandu> !xubuntu
[06:20] <Error404NotFound> i am trying to install apt-proz and i get : http://pastebin.com/prraEenu
[06:20] <SoulShadow|Lappy> xfce and lxde are awesome
[06:20] <SoulShadow|Lappy> just sayin
[06:21] <rilliam> Can someone tell me how to run memtest86 on startup?
[06:21] <Samus_Aran> RedSingularity: "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" among others.  I'm not sure what the most proper command is
[06:21] <hasek79> is there a way to check the version of the grub menu? and should i update it?
[06:22] <hasek79> if i need to
[06:22] <Samus_Aran> JackStoner: "/set proxy" in irssi shows the proxy commands.  http://irssi.org/documentation/proxy  << help there
[06:22] <Krishnandu> hasek79, Which version of ubuntu are you using..??
[06:23] <Samus_Aran> rilliam: it is added to GRUB by default, so just hit Esc to enter the GRUB menu and select it
[06:23] <Krishnandu> hasek79, BTW you can always use grub --version
[06:23] <JackStoner> Samus_Aran: thanks
[06:23] <bastidrazor> Error404NotFound: you should notify the ppa author and get support from them. sadly, that is the issue with some ppa's. they break things.
[06:23] <hasek79>  the newest ubuntu
[06:23] <rilliam> Samus_Aran: ok so its grub and not grub2, because my undersatnding is that grub2 is now to hold shift key down not esx
[06:23] <Error404NotFound> bastidrazor, yup, just did
[06:24] <rilliam> Samus_Aran: I hold shift down and nothing happens, so its ESC not shift right?
[06:24] <Krishnandu> hasek79, then you are using grub2. BTW as I said before you can always use grub --version
[06:24] <RedSingularity> Samus_Aran:  Thanks
[06:24] <hasek79> ok
[06:24] <hasek79> thanks
[06:24] <Krishnandu> you're welcome :)
[06:25] <shades> apt-get install sun-java6-jre isn't working??
[06:25] <bazhang> shades, enable partner repo
[06:25] <soreau> Stupid question: My FF is totally bombing (have to restart it after it's been running for an hour or so every time I go to use it) so.. How can I install google-chrome the ubuntu-way?
[06:25] <bazhang> !partner | shades
[06:25] <rilliam> shades: are you trying to play minecraft as well?
[06:25] <soreau> I see chromium, but I want google-chrome
[06:26] <shades> rilliam: no
[06:26] <Krishnandu> shades, System > Administration > Sources, enable partner repository
[06:26] <shades> or i can run 'enable partner repo' from the cli?
[06:26] <Samus_Aran> rilliam: ah, I have avoided GRUB2 like the plauge, it is very difficult to use!  :p
[06:26] <Krishnandu> shades, NO!!
[06:26] <bazhang> shades, sure you can
[06:27] <bazhang> shades, just paste the link from the bot above
[06:27] <Samus_Aran> shades: your repositories are in /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[06:27] <Samus_Aran> shades: usually you just need to uncomment the one you want to add
[06:27] <bazhang> Krishnandu, sure he can
[06:27] <Krishnandu> soreau, I'd say just get ir from google's site and install.
[06:27] <infid> Samus_Aran: i havent used it. sure if you wanna walk me through that'd help
[06:27] <Krishnandu> bazhang, I didn't knew...does that really work..?? enable partner repo??
[06:27] <Samus_Aran> infid: you were asking aobut FNS?
[06:27] <Samus_Aran> *about NFS
[06:28] <kcj> Can anyone help me with my missing sound icon?
[06:28] <bazhang> Krishnandu, no, see the bot link
[06:28] <Samus_Aran> kcj: do you still have sound, or are you just missing the icon?
[06:28] <kcj> Samus_Aran: I'm missing the icon.
[06:28] <infid> Samus_Aran: yeah. someone set up a samba share though, does that mean i can't use nfs to connect to it i take it?
[06:29] <shutyaev> hi all. i try to install ubuntu server 10.10 x64 on my desktop but I can't boot the installation cd. it shows me "1. (no text) 2. (no text) Select CD-ROM Boot Type" When I enter 1 it shows language selection screen and after choosing "Install ubuntu server" it just reboots. When I enter 2 it thinks for awhile and then reboots without displaying anything. same cd boots fine on my laptop. And ubuntu server 10.04 x64 boots fine on my de
[06:29] <Samus_Aran> kcj: okay.  right-click on an empty spot on the panel and choose "Add to panel".  you should see the sound mixer as one of the items in there.  if it's not in the list anywhere, then it probably got uninstalled somehow
[06:29] <shades> ok
[06:29] <Jordan_U> shades: Are you trying to install on a mac?
[06:29] <shades> i updated that repository and jre still isn't
[06:29] <shades> no
[06:29] <Samus_Aran> infid: do you mean they set up a Samba share on another computer?
[06:29] <infid> Samus_Aran: yeah
[06:29] <Samus_Aran> infid: you just need to install the Samba client and then mount it
[06:29] <Jordan_U> shutyaev: Are you trying to install on a mac?
[06:29] <infid> Samus_Aran: ok
[06:29] <Samus_Aran> infid: if you want to share your own folders, you can use Samba or NFS
[06:30] <Krishnandu> bazhang, Ya i know that apt-repository thing, but he asked enable partner repo
[06:30] <infid> nfsv4?
[06:30] <Samus_Aran> infid: or if it's just a few files, just copy them into their shared folder, once you mount it
[06:30] <markboston> how do i tell seahorse a key belongs to me if i import it from a file
[06:30] <bazhang> Krishnandu, and that is the way. see the bot link
[06:30] <ilhamcs> hmhmmhmh
[06:30] <rilliam> Is there some way to force the grub menu to show up and wait for input from the user on boot?
[06:31] <shutyaev> Jordan_U, funny thing I'm not =) I read the problem with macs, but my pc is a pentium-D
[06:31] <Krishnandu> bazhang, ya ok :)
[06:31] <kcj> rilliam: 'c'
[06:31] <shades> what am I doing wrong?
[06:31] <Jordan_U> shutyaev: EFI?
[06:31] <markboston> how do i tell seahorse a key belongs to me if i import it from a file
[06:31] <Samus_Aran> shutyaev: first off, confirm the disc was downloaded correctly, it should have an option to checksum the disk to check for errors.  otherwise use "md5sum" to check.  if the disc is burned fine, then the problem is most likely that the installer doesn't handle your graphics card properly, in which case you can download the Alternative Installer CD, which uses a text-mode installer
[06:31] <rilliam> kcj: ok thanks
[06:31] <markboston> how do i tell seahorse a key belongs to me if i import it from a file
[06:31] <ForgeAus> uh as for grub2 there is #grub but for what its worth I agree grub 2 is much more complicated than grub 1
[06:31] <kcj> Samus_Aran: No luck.
[06:32] <Krishnandu> rilliam, edit grub.conf and increase timeout, though it's bydefault set to 10
[06:32] <james_> Hello everyone, i tried to update my system but i get this message- W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 28A8205077558DD0
[06:32] <Samus_Aran> rilliam: if it's GRUB v1, then edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and make sure you have a line like this: timeout 30
[06:32] <james_> Anyone knows what that means?
[06:32] <Samus_Aran> rilliam: that will wait 30 seconds on the menu, before loading the default
[06:32] <rilliam> I am running 10.10
[06:32] <ForgeAus> I think my problem with wubi is somehow grub related
[06:32] <shutyaev> Jordan_U, well I'm not exactly sure... if I understood correctly then EFI is a BIOS alternative. and then it seems i have no EFI 'cause I have a bios. correct me if I'm wrong
[06:32] <bazhang> james_, intrepid is no longer supported
[06:32] <Jordan_U> rilliam: Yes, change GRUB_TIMEOUT in /etc/default/grub then "sudo update-grub".
[06:32] <vvcephei> hey, does anyone know how to forcibly free a port?
[06:33] <markboston> how do i tell seahorse a key belongs to me if i import it from a file
[06:33] <ekkis> has anyone installed 10.10 under VMWare (OSX host)?  I can't get it to install
[06:33] <james_> ok, thanks how do i fix that error?
[06:33] <kcj> Samus_Aran: At least it looked nice when I was installing ubuntu. :)
[06:33] <ForgeAus> vvcephei,  what do you mean forcibly free a port?
[06:33] <bazhang> james_, upgrade to a supported version
[06:33] <Samus_Aran> james_: manually install the key, or else tell it to ignore the error
[06:33] <bazhang> !gpgerr > james_
[06:33] <bazhang> !upgrade | james_
[06:34] <ForgeAus> ekkis, interesting whats the problem?
[06:34] <james_> Can i upgrade to the new release to fix the problem?
[06:34] <shutyaev> Samus_Aran, md5 was fine, so was after-burn check. I can choose the option to verify cd, but after I choose it I get the same result - reboot.. My video card is ATI Radeon x1300 and it was alright with 10.04 installation
[06:34] <elias_> how do i mount an iso?
[06:34] <rilliam> Jordan_U: what should i change grub_timeout to? its set at 10 now
[06:34] <bazhang> james_, fix first then upgrade
[06:34] <lucent> elias_: "loop back" mode
[06:34] <Samus_Aran> kcj: did you get to the list of pannel applets you can add?  did you try typing in "sound" or "audio" or "mixer" in the filter/search at the top?
[06:34] <ekkis> ForgeAus: hmm... it won't even boot up
[06:34] <ekkis> ForgeAus: let me try to do the install again and I'll tell you exactly what
[06:34] <lucent> elias_: I think File Roller will open ISO files, do you really need to mount it?
[06:34] <elias_> lucent, loop back?
[06:34] <james_> bazhang- how do i fix it?
[06:35] <elias_> lucent,  its a movie i downloaded
[06:35] <bazhang> !gpgerr | james_
[06:35] <lucent> elias_: try playing with VLC program, it should be able to play
[06:35] <ForgeAus> hmmm.. I'm lagged :(
[06:35] <kcj> Samus_Aran: Yeah. I really like the one that's supposed to show up in my tray.
[06:35] <lucent> elias_: though, if not, then I thought mplayer or VLC would play ISO containers
[06:35] <vvcephei> ForgeAus: I'm debugging a socket communication program, and it's not always closing its passive socket correctly. Then I get "Address already in use" when I run it the next time around. I'm wondering if there's a way to release the port analogous to "kill -9"
[06:36] <elias_> well, when i open the folder, it has alot of files
[06:36] <Samus_Aran> kcj: check Synaptic for any packages that might be related to gnome's volume controll mixer.  it could be one of these: sudo apt-get install gnome-media gnome-volume-manager gnome-alsamixer
[06:36] <ajsie> is there a way to make ubuntu one work with ubuntu server without the GUI?
[06:36] <Jordan_U> rilliam: Sorry, I meant GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT.
[06:36] <Samus_Aran> kcj: I don't really use Gnome at all, so I have limited tech support ability with it.  :)
[06:36] <ajsie> to synchronize my files
[06:36] <shades> so after updaing the repository java should install?
[06:36] <lucent> elias_: also pro-tip for you, don't tell people you download movies in this format here, most of that activity is not allowed for discussion?
[06:36] <elias_> lucent, its a torrent
[06:36] <ekkis> ForgeAus: it's BusyBox... it cannot mount /dev/loop0
[06:36] <kcj> Samus_Aran: Ah. What do you use?
[06:36] <ForgeAus> vvcephei, uh sorry not my forte... but a port is not an address, if address is referring to IP...
[06:37] <elias_> lucent, kk my bad
[06:37] <ForgeAus> ekkis you used wubi?
[06:37] <blahsphemer> how do I find where python2.6 is installed in ubuntu
[06:37] <ubuntu91human> I'm back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[06:37] <bazhang> !piracy > elias_
[06:37] <Samus_Aran> shades: update the package lists: sudo apt-get update    ... then try installing the package, e.g.: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[06:37] <ubuntu91human> hello~~~? Krishnandu, are you there???????????
[06:37] <rilliam> Jordan_U: ok thanks
[06:37] <vvcephei> ForgeAus: right, in this case the error message is poorly phrased ;) thanks anyway.
[06:37] <lucent> blahsphemer: 'which python2.6' ?
[06:37] <ekkis> ForgeAus: never heard of it
[06:37] <Samus_Aran> shades: there is by default an open source version of Java installed, so you will need to either uninstall that, or else set it to NOT be the default "java"
[06:37] <Jordan_U> rilliam: You're welcome.
[06:37] <shades> Samus_Aran: installing sun-java6-jre doesn't seem to do it
[06:37] <Jordan_U> !grub2 | rilliam
[06:37] <vvcephei> blaatmeister: "which python"
[06:38] <Samus_Aran> shades: doesn't seem to do... what?
[06:38] <ForgeAus> ekkis, uh I'm not sure why its using a loop device...l
[06:38] <ubuntu91human> Krishnandu, now I can boot from PC ALONE!!! Great!! BUT!!! didn't show any MENU, help!!!
[06:38] <shades> weird
[06:38] <james_> ok,thanks i will try to fix the problem by removing the custom repository
[06:38] <shades> it's NOW showing up
[06:38] <Samus_Aran> ubuntu91human: please use only one exclamation point or question mark.  using more is like screaming at people, it is considered as rude.
[06:38] <blahsphemer> lucent, as in , I am trying to find out where the python folder exists
[06:38] <blahsphemer> its lib folder and all that
[06:38] <ubuntu91human> Samus_Aran, sorry
[06:38] <lucent> blahsphemer: probably in /usr/lib/python2.6 or something
[06:38] <ForgeAus> ekkis, most cases I've come across loop devices are for mounting a hardfile (ie a file that acts as a substitute for a  hard drive with partition information and stored data on it)
[06:38] <ekkis> ForgeAus: all I did was click on the download button of the Ubuntu home page, that leaves an ISO on my disk that I then use to attempt the install with
[06:39] <Samus_Aran> kcj: I've been using ICEWM for around 8 or 9 years
[06:39] <blahsphemer> got it, you're right
[06:39] <blahsphemer> thanks
[06:39] <ubuntu91human> now I can boot from PC alone without any problem, but I lost windows menu
[06:39] <ForgeAus> ekkis, sure, what point does that happen, where in the process does the error happen? directly after you insert the virtual CD?
[06:39] <Samus_Aran> kcj: I use Gnome at work for 2 years, to learn it for tech support purposes.  but it's all in my head, I have no Gnome loaded here to test things on.
[06:39]  * [gnubie] waves
[06:39] <ekkis> ForgeAus: oh, so maybe this is not happy with a mounted ISO... maybe it needs to think it's a real DVD... I can do that, with Toast... fake it so it looks just like a DVD.  I'll give that a try
[06:39] <kcj> Samus_Aran: I've only been using linux for about 2 years. :)
[06:40] <ForgeAus> ekkis it might be as simple as setting VMware to use the physical CD instead of a virtual one?
[06:40] <ubuntu91human> I did this sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/0d104aff-ec8c-44c8-b811-92b993823444 /dev/sda
[06:40] <Jordan_U> ekkis: That is not the problem.
[06:40] <ekkis> ForgeAus: yes, as soon as it starts to boot it just crashes
[06:40] <ForgeAus> (sorry DVD)
[06:40] <[gnubie]> i need help on how i can make use of the cloud-init in my ami for downloading and executing my user-data in base64 format..
[06:40] <Exploiter> its my 2nd week of unix.. and i feel like ' i have the power' lol
[06:40] <ubuntu91human> and my ubuntu 10.04 is back!! but I can not see any menu during booting
[06:40] <ekkis> ForgeAus: I don't have a physical CD but I can have Toast manufacture one for me
[06:40] <ForgeAus> ekkis, not if ou have the ISO you can burn it, thats easy enough todo, worst case is that you waste a physical disk
[06:40] <ekkis> Jordan_U: so what is?
[06:41] <ForgeAus> ekkis, yes toast is one way
[06:41] <Jordan_U> ubuntu91human: I think you mounted the wrong partition.
[06:41] <ekkis> ForgeAus: yeah, I'll try mounting it as a CD first, if not, I'll burn
[06:41] <ForgeAus> not sure if disk utility would do that too
[06:41] <ekkis> I don't think so
[06:41] <Jordan_U> ekkis: Just knowing what the problem isn't unfortunatly doesn't always mean I know what it is :(
[06:41] <ForgeAus> ekkis, uh more likely to be a DVD, that was my error calling it a CD
[06:41] <ubuntu91human> how to detect my Jordan_U? but I am sure I unplug my USB-pen
[06:42] <ekkis> it's probably a DVD.  same difference
[06:42] <fr0stbyte> is there something like cairo-dock that doesnt require desktop effects? i keep mine on none because 10.10 has an issue with effects sometimes menu doesnt show up on hover/click
[06:42] <ubuntu91human> well, my windows is on partition 1, Ubuntu 10.04 is on partition 2
[06:42] <Jordan_U> ubuntu91human: Is there a /media/0d104aff-ec8c-44c8-b811-92b993823444/etc/fstab ?
[06:42] <ubuntu91human> Jordan_U : My windows is on partition 1, Ubuntu 10.04 is on partition 2
[06:42] <dirkle> Is there an easy way to go from Ubuntu 10.04 to Netbook Remix 10.10 without starting over and losing all of my data?
[06:43] <Samus_Aran> kcj: try running the command "gnome-volume-control-applet" from a terminal
[06:43] <Samus_Aran> kcj: see if that makes it reappear
[06:43] <ubuntu91human> Jordan_U of course not exist, It was /media/991c14c5-9210-4f11-9916-695a22255647
[06:43] <_jesse_> hi all, I'm having an issue with xrandr: http://pastebin.com/TuCjbR7R
[06:43] <Jordan_U> ubuntu91human: I copied that path from your comment :)
[06:43] <ubuntu91human> I was just copy and past for quicker chat
[06:44] <lucent> _jesse_: wow, that's ... "special"
[06:44] <eraggo> fr0stbyte: have you tried docky?
[06:44] <_jesse_> you're telling me ;)
[06:44] <Jordan_U> ubuntu91human: What is the exact command you ran to install grub?
[06:44] <ekkis> ForgeAus: maybe that's not a path.  I mounted the ISO and it looks like a DVD but the VMWare install doesn't recognise it as a physical drive and it won't let me use it as an installation disc image file
[06:44] <Lxndr> question: I somehow borked my computer earlier, and wound up having to boot into an older version in the grub. How do I make sure that older version (which I'm running now) will be the default when I restart?
[06:44] <ekkis> so I'm screwed
[06:44] <icedtea> dirkle: yes, how about starting the update manager from the system menu, then there should be an option to upgrade to 10.10
[06:44] <ubuntu91human> Jordan_U /media/0d104aff-ec8c-44c8-b811-92b993823444 is the example on Ubuntu forum
[06:44] <kcj> Samus_Aran: Kind of.
[06:44] <fr0stbyte> eraggo: not yet
[06:45] <Samus_Aran> _jesse_: try: xrandr --screen LVDS1 -s 0
[06:45] <fr0stbyte> wish they would just make a normal dock thats fast without the stupid animations
[06:45] <lucent> _jesse_: try specifying the output, i.e. xrandr --output LVDS -s 0
[06:45] <Samus_Aran> _jesse_: it seems to be defaulting to the offline screen
[06:45] <_jesse_> aaah interesting
[06:45] <fr0stbyte> i use a dock for the functionality, not the looks
[06:45] <_jesse_> lucent Samus_Aran: will try that, thanks
[06:45] <Lxndr> Does anyone know anything about grub? I somehow borked my computer earlier, and wound up having to boot into an older version in the grub. How do I make sure that older version (which I'm running now) will be the default when I restart?
[06:45] <dirkle> icedtea: that will also take care of the situation that I have the full version of Ubuntu 10.04 on my netbook and not the Netbook remix?
[06:45] <Lxndr> Samus_Aran: Can you answer my most recent question?
[06:45] <ubuntu91human> the exact command I did was ---> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/991c14c5-9210-4f11-9916-6a5a22255647 /dev/sda
[06:46] <Samus_Aran> _jesse_: I seem to have got the option wrong, I think --output is correct, not --screen
[06:46] <lucent> Lxndr: can you post your question 3 more times, in a row, so I can read them instead of the other people posting in the channel?
[06:46] <ubuntu91human> so I can boot my PC(Ubuntu 10.04) without pen-driver!
[06:46] <Jordan_U> ubuntu91human: Does /media/991c14c5-9210-4f11-9916-6a5a22255647/etc/fstab exist?
[06:46] <lucent> also, sarcasm.
[06:46] <Samus_Aran> Lxndr: grub-install
[06:46] <ubuntu91human> so I can boot my PC(Ubuntu 10.04) without pen-driver! BUT I lost booting MENU, I cannot see any MENU and 10 seconds countdown.
[06:47] <Samus_Aran> I need to go get work done.  goodnight all, and good luck.  :)
[06:47] <icedtea> dirkle: oh I see. sorry. You want to go to the netbook edition. I don't know how you would go about that
[06:47] <ubuntu91human> Jordan_U, how to check if it is exist or not?
[06:47] <Jordan_U> Lxndr: Ignore Samus_Aran's comment.
[06:47] <ubuntu91human> please tell me how
[06:47] <ubuntu91human> show me how
[06:47] <Jordan_U> ubuntu91human: "ls /media/991c14c5-9210-4f11-9916-6a5a22255647/etc/fstab"
[06:47] <ubuntu91human> okay, wait
[06:48] <dirkle> icedtea:  thanks anyways
[06:48] <bastidrazor> Lxndr: uninstall the newest kernel, in synaptic search for linux-image
[06:48] <icedtea> dirkle: np
[06:48] <ekkis> lsr: hei, could it be because I downloaded a "live" image?
[06:48] <ekkis> is there some other image I should have downloaded?
[06:48] <ubuntu91human> No such file or directory
[06:49] <Jordan_U> ubuntu91human: Then you used the wrong path for your --root-directory option.
[06:49] <ubuntu91human> Jordan_U?
[06:49] <ubuntu91human> Help me please, Jordan_U
[06:50] <Lxndr> Jordan_U: Ignored! should I follow bastidrazor's directive?
[06:50] <_jesse_> lucent: hmm well it still won't let me select a specific size; --auto worked, but didn't give me the resolution I was looking for
[06:50] <_jesse_> doesn't output an error message though
[06:50] <_jesse_> just doesn't do anythgin
[06:51] <bastidrazor> Lxndr: if the newer kernel is not working for you then it is safe to uninstall it, as long as you have an older version available which you indicated you have and are using.
[06:51] <Jordan_U> Lxndr: Yes, though in the long term you should figure out why the newest kernel isn't working.
[06:51] <ubuntu91human> /dev/sda1 nefs /media/windows
[06:51] <ubuntu91human> /dev/sda2 ext4 /
[06:51] <ajsie> is there an easy way to syncrhonize files on ubuntu server to online storage like dropbox (dropbox doesnt work with ubuntu server only with GUI)
[06:51] <ubuntu91human> /dev/sda3 linux-swap
[06:51] <ekkis> ForgeAus: maybe that's not a path.  I mounted the ISO and it looks like a DVD but the VMWare install doesn't recognise it as a physical drive and it won't let me use it as an installation disc image file
[06:52] <ubuntu91human> /dev/sda4 extended --> /dev/sda5 fat32
[06:52] <ubuntu91human> What do i do now? Jordan?
[06:53] <Lxndr> bastidrazor, Jordan_U: I'm rebooting. Hopefully, you guys are right. Back soon, wish me luck.
[06:53] <ubuntu91human> I need to reboot agian, wait please
[06:53] <ForgeAus> ekkis thats odd I havn't come across that issue before
[06:53] <Jordan_U> ubuntu91human: First, what problem are you currently having with grub?
[06:53] <fr0stbyte> eraggo, hmm docky requires effects or 'composition manager' as well, but its cooler, i like it more than cairo.. simple and effective. thanks
[06:53] <ForgeAus> ekkis ounted inside vmware or outside of it?
[06:54] <ForgeAus> ekkis the ISO could be faulty?
[06:54] <ekkis> ForgeAus: well... VMWare apparently doesn't know how to deal with a CD drive... it's happy with a .iso though
[06:54] <eraggo> fr0stbyte: np
[06:54] <ekkis> ForgeAus: it's possible.  I'll look up a CRC on it
[06:54] <ForgeAus> instea of mounting the iso... start vmware and refer to the iso as a file for the DVD drive
[06:54] <wers> gnome shell built from source is slow, unlike the one from the repo. is anyone else experiencing this?
[06:54] <wers> any idea why?
[06:54] <ForgeAus> (a virtual DVD)
[06:55] <ForgeAus> thats how I mostly do it
[06:55] <purvesh> can some one tell me the name of ubuntu one channel ?
[06:55] <vn8> hai
[06:55] <shades> having trouble with apt-get install virtualbox-3.2 - E: Couldn't find package virtualbox-3.2 ..?
[06:55] <purvesh> vn8, hi
[06:55] <Jordan_U> purvesh: #ubuntuone
[06:55] <ubuntu91human_> Jordan_U, now I can boot from PC without pendriver, but I cannot see any MENU during booting, so I can not choose whether to boot windows or ubnutu
[06:55] <vn8> i want setup in dhcp in ubuntu 10.04
[06:55] <purvesh> Jordan_U, thank you
[06:55] <icedtea> shades: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[06:55] <vn8> no
[06:56] <drbe4t> Does anyone know  how to get gtk-record my desktop to upload onto youtube?
[06:56] <ubuntu91human_> Jordan_U, now I can boot from PC without pendriver, but I cannot see any MENU during booting, so I can not choose whether to boot windows or ubnutu
[06:56] <icedtea> shades: you need to be on 10.10 to get 3.2.10
[06:56] <Jordan_U> ubuntu91human_: Then you don't need to, and shouldn't, do anything with grub-install. Just boot Ubuntu and run "sudo update-grub".
[06:56] <Ramji> hi can any body tell me what IS IRC
[06:56] <bazhang> Ramji, you are on it now
[06:56] <drbe4t> #ubuntu
[06:57] <icedtea> IRC=Internet Relay Chat
[06:57] <ubuntu91human_> Jordan_U, wait please
[06:57] <quibbler> Ramji-> look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat
[06:57] <ubuntu91human_> Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub
[06:57] <ubuntu91human_> Searching for default file ... found: /boot/grub/default
[06:57] <ubuntu91human_> Testing for an existing GRUB menu.lst file ... found: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:57] <ubuntu91human_> Searching for splash image ... none found, skipping ...
[06:57] <ubuntu91human_> Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-24-generic
[06:57] <FloodBot3> ubuntu91human_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:57] <ubuntu91human_> Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-23-generic
[06:58] <purvesh> can some one tell me that i can upload my new contact to ubuntu one even when i click on "Edit phone syncing (beta)" then i am getting one message "Subscription required" so what is the issue. even i cant sync my new contact from my cell also my id and password is correct.
[06:58] <Ramji> quibbler, thanks
[06:58] <shades> icedtea: it's xubuntu, i'm not sure how to check
[06:59] <ubuntu91human_> sorry
[06:59] <quibbler> Ramji-> you are welcome
[07:00] <ubuntu91human_> so....... can you read me now?
[07:00] <ubuntu91human_> am i still being mute?
[07:00] <icedtea> shades: well, actually, I'm on ubuntu 10.10 and 3.2.8 is available, but at the virtualbox website you need 10.10 for 3.2.10
[07:00] <ubuntu91human_> can I speak now?
[07:00] <ehsan> Hi my friends...
[07:00] <Jordan_U> ubuntu91human_: Yes, we can see you.
[07:00] <shades> icedtea: how can i tell what version i'm on
[07:00] <ubuntu91human_> Jordan_U did you see what I just past?
[07:01] <Jordan_U> ubuntu91human_: No, use pastebin.
[07:01] <ubuntu91human_> paste
[07:01] <ehsan> I have a question about ubuntu 10.10
[07:01] <sd32> *ask
[07:01] <ehsan> where is the xorg.conf in ubuntu 10.10
[07:01] <purvesh> shades, may be u can check your operating system info and other hardware info via installing "sudo aptitude install sysinfo"
[07:01] <icedtea> shades: hrm not sure.
[07:02] <Jordan_U> ehsan: There is none by default. Recent versions of Xorg don't need one, so distros don't ship one.
[07:02] <ubuntu91human_> Here Jordan
[07:02] <ubuntu91human_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/515465/
[07:02] <ubuntu91human_> Jordan U ---> please check http://paste.ubuntu.com/515465/
[07:03] <shades> it's 10.04
[07:03] <ekkis> ForgeAus: curiously, the image I grabbed (ubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso) isn't available under the Alternative Downloads
[07:04] <Jordan_U> ubuntu91human_: Is there a reason you are using grub legacy instead of grub2?
[07:04] <Flannel> ekkis: ubuntu-10.10-alternate-i386.iso
[07:04] <ekkis> Flannel: that is not listed
[07:04] <ubuntu91human_> I don't know, Jordan_U, I did what you told me, booted form 10.04 LIVE CD
[07:04] <vandrar> LKKLÖLKLKHJKJOJPOÖHJKYKJKLHKJKYKLKLKJLGKGJLGKJJLKJKGHFDHGJGJHJJGLJKFJHJHLKGHLKGKLHJKHJIOUKGKFJGLJGFJFLJLJGLGJFGGJFJJHJHKJHJHGJHJHJJGDJGDGDXFG
[07:04] <Flannel> ekkis: where?
[07:04] <ekkis> Flannel: http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/ubuntu/10.10/release/
[07:04] <ubuntu91human_> I don't know, Jordan_U, I did what you told me, booted form 10.04 LIVE CD
[07:04] <icedtea> shades: cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:04] <KB1JWQ> vandrar: That'll do.
[07:04] <icedtea> shades: that'll give you the distro name your on
[07:04] <pie_time> my speakers have suddenly stopped working without reason. i was just trying to plug in a usb phone and now it doesnt work. could anyone pleas help!
[07:04] <Flannel> ekkis: Apparently that mirror is silly.  Grab it here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.10/
[07:05] <cordor> is there anyhing kinda like  personal database system i can tag comments files?
[07:05] <Flannel> ekkis: Actually, the DVD mirrors don't necessarily have CD images.  That might be why.
[07:05] <ubuntu91human_> I don't know, Jordan_U, I did what you told me, booted form 10.04 LIVE CD and sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/991c14c5-9210-4f11-9916-6a5a22255647 /dev/sda
[07:05] <ekkis> Flannel: oh... ok.  I downloaded the image from the button on the main page
[07:06] <ekkis> it's an iso... but trying to install it on VMWare fails
[07:06] <Jordan_U> ubuntu91human_: You're currently booted into your Ubuntu install rather than the liveCD?
[07:06] <ubuntu91human_> so..... I am going to reboot, see if the MENU appears? ok?
[07:06] <Flannel> ekkis: No worries.  You can grab that image from that mirror though, if you can't find it elsewhere.
[07:06] <Jordan_U> ubuntu91human_: No.
[07:06] <ubuntu91human_> no?
[07:06] <ekkis> Flannel: it complians about not being able to mount /dev/loop0
[07:06] <ubuntu91human_> I am currently booted into my Ubuntu installed yes
[07:06] <ekkis> Flannel: I want to install the desktop, not a server and that seemed like the right thing
[07:06] <ubuntu91human_> not from LIVE CD, but without menu
[07:06] <Jordan_U> ubuntu91human_: Run "sudo apt-get install grub-pc"
[07:07] <ekkis> I've been meaning to try out Ubuntu for years (I live in Fedora) but I can't even install it!
[07:07] <ubuntu91human_> Jordan_U, can I reboot first? to see if anything change?
[07:07] <r> ekkis: why not? whats wrong?
[07:07] <ubuntu91human_> Jordan_U, can I reboot first? to see if anything change? well?
[07:08] <ubuntu91human_> Jordan_U, can I reboot first? to see if anything change? well? is it all right?
[07:08] <Flannel> ekkis: the alternate CD can do either.  But I'm not sure what the VMware error would be
[07:08] <Jordan_U> ubuntu91human_: Please be patient.
[07:08] <ubuntu91human_> Jordan_U, can I reboot first? to see if anything change? well? is it all right? BEFORE "sudo... grub-pc"?
[07:08] <fr0stbyte> btw i solved my problem with the black screen / weird display at startup by moving /home/<user>/.gconf/apps/panel somewhere else, basically had to redo my panel cuz something screwed it up
[07:08] <ekkis> r: I'm trying to do the install under a VM in OSX... but as soon as the process starts, it dies
[07:08] <linux_probe> jeepers too much caffeine for someone
[07:08] <Jordan_U> ubuntu91human_: If you repeat that question again I will stop supporting you.
[07:09] <ekkis> the VMWare error happens right away.  it complains of being unable to mount /dev/loop0
[07:09] <Jordan_U> ubuntu91human_: Yes, if you want to reboot first you can.
[07:09] <ubuntu91human_> Jordan_U, chill up
[07:09] <ubuntu91human_> I just would like to know your "update grub" effect.
[07:09] <ubuntu91human_> I am courious,
[07:09] <ubuntu91human_> I am not a pro, ok?
[07:10] <ubuntu91human_> brb Jordan_U
[07:11] <allan8904> hey, i've just installed ubuntu and youtube is running slow...is there anything i can do to speed it up (it runs flawlessly in windows)
[07:11] <ehsan> I'd just install ati graphic card drivers for linux
[07:11] <ehsan> fglrx
[07:12] <allan8904>  ehsan: was that directed at me?
[07:12] <fr0stbyte> when i right click a file, go to permissions, click 'make executable' it auto-unchecks it when i click it.. wtf lol. same with group permissions
[07:12] <ehsan> but when I run ati catalyst control center I receive the following error: There was a problem initializing Catalyst Control Center Linux edition.  It could be caused by the following.
[07:12] <ehsan> No ATI graphics driver is installed, or the ATI driver is not functioning properly.
[07:12] <ehsan> Please install the ATI driver appropriate for you ATI hardware, or configure using aticonfig.
[07:12] <FloodBot3> ehsan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:12] <Jordan_U> allan8904: Use html5, http://youtube.com/html5
[07:12] <fr0stbyte> chmod 777 -R folder didn't work either
[07:13] <allan8904> Jordan_U: i dont have firefox 4 though...
[07:13] <fr0stbyte> allan8904, go to your administration section, go to drivers, and install hardware drivers?
[07:14] <allan8904> fr0stbyte: it says no proprietory drivers are used on this system
[07:15] <ubuntu91human> Jordan_U, back! before your "updat grub", I just found that I can click "ESC" to into a MENU, but still, no Windows XP, thus, I still cannot boot my Windows XP
[07:15] <ehsan> There was a problem initializing Catalyst Control Center Linux edition.  It could be caused by the following.No ATI graphics driver is installed, or the ATI driver is not functioning properly.Please install the ATI driver appropriate for you ATI hardware, or configure using aticonfig.
[07:16] <ubuntu91human> Jordan_U, back! before your "updat grub", I just found that I can click "ESC" to into a MENU, but still, no Windows XP, thus, I still cannot boot my Windows XP, would you help me out of this? find my Windows XP back? because I have a software need to work in Windows XP everyday.
[07:16] <Jordan_U> ubuntu91human: Run "sudo apt-get install grub-pc"
[07:16] <ubuntu91human> so, maybe I should try your "sudo apt-get install brub-pc"?
[07:17] <ubuntu91human> ok! I'm going to
[07:17] <fr0stbyte> allan8904, odd. i always have to install ati or nvidia prop drivers, then it speeds up video of course.
[07:17] <allan8904> fr0stbyte: i have an intel graphics card, does tha make a difference?
[07:18] <ubuntu91human> http://paste.ubuntu.com/515472/
[07:18] <ubuntu91human> Please check it out Jordan_U http://paste.ubuntu.com/515472/
[07:18] <ubuntu91human> anything worng? Jordan?
[07:19] <Jordan_U> ubuntu91human: You misspelled "grub-pc"
[07:19] <litropy> I don't have  a remote desktop preferences pane within Unity
[07:19] <ubuntu91human> ok, try again now...
[07:20] <fr0stbyte> allan8904, hm if its integrated intel then ya i guess it would run slow.. if u dont have a problem on windows then it might be flash. grab the new flash player 10 beta perhaps, its suppose to solve non-windows speed issues
[07:20] <fr0stbyte> or try html5 like someone said, ff4, or chrome (svn?)
[07:20] <ubuntu91human> http://paste.ubuntu.com/515473/
[07:21] <ubuntu91human> Jordan_U ---> here http://paste.ubuntu.com/515473/
[07:21] <ubuntu91human> Y or n?
[07:21] <Jordan_U> ubuntu91human: Yes, continue.
[07:21] <ubuntu91human> Y I suppose
[07:21] <allan8904> fr0stbyte: yeah it runs fine in windows, i'll grab the flash 10 beta, the reason i wont go for the html 5 fix, is that other sites that contain flash content (like bigpond) still wont work
[07:23] <ubuntu91human> http://paste.ubuntu.com/515474/
[07:23] <ubuntu91human> Jordan_U --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/515474/
[07:24] <ubuntu91human> Looks like ............... success?
[07:24] <Jordan_U> ubuntu91human: Yes, that looks good.
[07:24] <ubuntu91human> What do I do next? Jordan?
[07:24] <Jordan_U> ubuntu91human: Try rebooting.
[07:24] <ubuntu91human> Got it!
[07:24] <ubuntu91human> BE RIGHT BACK!
[07:25] <ubuntu91human> I hope it works
[07:26] <fr0stbyte> i really really hope it works too
[07:27] <edagar> Does anyone know if D-Link DWA-160 Wireless N USB will work under ubuntu 10.04? or 10.10?
[07:28] <fr0stbyte> so whats better, gnome do with docky theme or docky on its own? docky seems to have less features of course, but some which dont seem unnecessary, really nice
[07:29] <SeanInSeattle> Hey all.  Would someone be able to tell me how to change the highlighting color of things in-the-console/on-the-command-line?
[07:29] <ehsan> When I run ati catalyst control center I received the following error: There was a problem initializing Catalyst Control Center Linux edition.  It could be caused by the following.No ATI graphics driver is installed, or the ATI driver is not functioning properly.Please install the ATI driver appropriate for you ATI hardware, or configure using aticonfig.
[07:29] <ubuntu91human_> THANK YOU JORDAN_U, IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:30] <ubuntu91human_> I JUST CAME BACK FROM WINDOWS XP AND NOW I AM IN UBUNTU 10.04 AS WELL
[07:30] <litropy> Hi, peeps. I don't have a remote desktop prefernces pane in Unity's browser.
[07:30] <ubuntu91human_> THANK YOU SO MUCH JORDAN_U
[07:30] <NBE_ONE> apache run but can't connect to localhost.
[07:30] <Jordan_U> ubuntu91human_: You're welcome.
[07:30] <NBE_ONE> when connect to internet .
[07:30] <bthesorceror> has anyone else had their synaptics trackpad show up as a ps/2 generic mouse?
[07:30] <ubuntu91human_> If there is anything I can do for you? just let me know OK?
[07:31] <ehsan> And run sudo modprobe fglrx and receive the following error: FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.35-22-generic/updates/dkms/fglrx.ko): No such device
[07:31] <ubuntu91human_> now I don't need to click ESC, it will show the MENU automatically and the 10 seconds countdown works and includes Windows XP
[07:31] <ubuntu91human_> my Ubuntu 10.04 is back!!!!!
[07:32] <ubuntu91human_> Great!!!
[07:32] <morpheuspr> /part/part
[07:32] <reeniginEesreveR> Is it possible to set up webgui for transmission-daemon on ubuntu?
[07:32] <ehsan> Is there anybody to help me?
[07:32] <reeniginEesreveR> *(transmission-daemon is a bittorrent client)
[07:33] <ubuntu91human_> Jordan_U, what did I do wrong? when you first saw my "sudo grup-install --root-directory=/media/............. /dev/sda"?
[07:33] <ubuntu91human_> so the command I first use is NOT necessary, is it?
[07:34] <ubuntu91human_> so if next time I encounter the same problem, all I need is the 2 commands you told me right?
[07:34] <trj021782> Anyone know how to turn off the 'shut off monitor option'?
[07:35] <NBE_ONE> Hello
[07:36] <trj021782> hello
[07:36] <ubuntu91human_> Jordan_U, so, it was "sudo update-grub" + "sudo apt-get install grub-pc" = solve all similar booting problems?
[07:36] <Jordan_U> ubuntu91human_: You had an odd situation that I doubt you have again.
[07:36] <ubuntu91human_> I must write these two down on my notebook
[07:37] <ubuntu91human_> have again? what do you mean? in the future?
[07:37] <trj021782> Jordan_U - Do you perhaps remember advising me to use testdisk to fix a bad aprtition table?
[07:37] <Jordan_U> ubuntu91human_: Yes, I doubt that you will have the same problem in the future.
[07:37] <Jordan_U> trj021782: Yes.
[07:37] <ubuntu91human_> Jordan_U, why? how?
[07:38] <fr0stbyte> is compiz still good for ubuntu?
[07:38] <ubuntu91human_> Jordan, but I just reboot, everything is OK.
[07:38] <Krishnandu> ubuntu91human_, Did it got fixed..??
[07:38] <rohan> what's the best way to get the latest nvidia drivers in ubuntu 10.10?
[07:38] <ubuntu91human_> Krishnandu, YES, Mr. Jordan_U helped me out of this, thanks to him.
[07:38] <Krishnandu> ubuntu91human_, Okies :) Enjoy :)
[07:39] <ubuntu91human_> Krishnandu, but I don't understand, how did it happen?
[07:39] <trj021782> Jordan_U - excellent, i had testdisk scan my hdd and when it was done it offered me two options to repair a bad boot sector  , it had a boot sector and a backup boot sector - I need advice concerning which one to use
[07:39] <ubuntu91human_> Should I keep away from ubuntu 10.10?
[07:40] <fr0stbyte> nvm appears compiz is used by default now
[07:40] <trj021782> ubuntu91human - I have heard good things from 10.10 but i have also heard that alot of people are sticking with 9.10 and 10.04 just because if it ain't broke don't fix it
[07:41] <Jordan_U> trj021782: The boot sector is only important for booting windows, and windows isn't going to boot with the partition table as it was before. You need to fix the partition table before anything else.
[07:41] <ubuntu91human_> trj021782, thanks for your advice
[07:42] <ubuntu91human_> advise
[07:42] <trj021782> Jordan_U - the boot sector is relevant to the partition table and NOT just used for booting, the proof here being that this HDD has NEVER been used for booting any OS
[07:42] <ludd1te> hey all - we have a ubuntu 10.04 server and the openssl does not support SNI - so i removed it via apt-get remove and then compiled successfully the latest tar ball from openssl however apache is still saying the old ssl is in use. this bothers me greatly as the apt cache tells me that no openssl is installed
[07:42] <ubuntu91human_> Jordan_U, can I have your email address so If I have further questions?
[07:42] <ubuntuCEO> i have apache problem which channel i should ask?
[07:42] <metzyn> i need some help
[07:43] <trj021782> metzyn - what help do you need?
[07:43] <metzyn> i just installed ubuntu netbook edition yet i don't know how to enable the unity interface
[07:43] <ludd1te> ubuntuCEO i believe there is a #apache channel
[07:43] <Jordan_U> trj021782: Let me clarify. I may be wrong, but from your description the menu you are at is for fixing a partition's boot sector, not the mbr itself (which contains the partition table).
[07:43] <KB1JWQ> ludd1te: #httpd actually.
[07:43] <ubuntu91human_> Jordan, Krishnandu : Next time I want to install Ubuntu10.10 into my USB-Pendriver, I will trun off my HDD from BIOS first, so this will NEVER happen again, am I correct????
[07:43] <van7hu> hi everyone,how can I run swi-prolog ? does it have GUI ?
[07:44] <Krishnandu> ubuntu91human_, better disconnect them...
[07:44] <Jordan_U> ubuntu91human_: No.
[07:44] <ubuntu91human_> Jordan_U, you mean "NOT correct"?
[07:44] <ubuntuCEO> anyway i cant post anything in apache?
[07:44] <Jordan_U> ubuntu91human_: Press the "advanced" button on the installer to change where it will install grub to.
[07:44] <ludd1te> KB1JWQ ah - my bad - you are spot on - thanks fort the correction ;-)
[07:44] <ubuntuCEO> how come i cant display jpg file in my apache server, how to solve it?
[07:44] <Krishnandu> Jordan_U, He's not even getting that button according to him
[07:45] <ludd1te> metzyn : http://www.gnulinux.in/article/information-and-installation-unity-lightweight-netbook-interface-ubuntu-netbook-edition-une
[07:45] <Jordan_U> ubuntu91human_: Yes, I mean that disabling the drive in the BIOS won't prevent an OS from writing to it.
[07:45] <ubuntu91human_> Jordan_U, but I am sure I will turn off my HDD, for security, just in case, right?
[07:45] <ubuntu91human_> Jordan_U........ ahmmm......... then, what do I do?
[07:45] <KB1JWQ> "Turn off my hard drive in BIOS for security?"
[07:46] <Krishnandu> ubuntu91human_, Nothing, just press the advanced button...and select where to install GRUB2
[07:46] <ubuntu91human_> so the booting stuff won't mess up with my internal HDD again, am I correct?
[07:46] <metzyn> i am checking out that link right now
[07:47] <ubuntu91human_> Krishnandu, Jordan_U : I did NOT see any "advanced button" during the 10.10 installation of my USB-pen
[07:47] <zulfi> hello guys! i need to know witch OS? ubuntu or windows 7 should i install first on to my laptop, just wanna know witch one should be better to install on my laptop!- because i use windows for gaming, and i use ubuntu 10.10 for lots of other things that i do,
[07:47] <ubuntu91human_> Krishnandu, Jordan_U : I did NOT see any "advanced button", I was trying to install 10.10 from LIVE CD, why is LIVE CD change my internal HDD for?
[07:47] <Krishnandu> zulfi, better install Win 7 first to avoid problems later
[07:48] <shai__> Hi :) I've running Ubuntu on VirtualBox and some of the VMs keep hanging ... now while this could be related to VB, I would like to investigate what the last things the OS saw before it hung. For example, if a kernel panic occurred due to memory issues etc. I'm trying to review /var/log but can't find anything that sticks out... any recommendations?
[07:48] <zulfi> yeah!
[07:48] <Krishnandu> ubuntu91human_, Are you sure...?? In that case better disconnect your HDD
[07:48] <KB1JWQ> shai__: Take a look at dmesg as well.
[07:48] <Jordan_U> ubuntu91human_: I guess they removed that option, which is rather unfortunate.
[07:48] <shai__> KB1JWQ: Is there no way to have kernel panics reported?
[07:49] <ubuntu91human_> Krishnandu, Jordan_U : I am 80% sure, and I am 100% sure 10.04 has options to let you choose where to put Boot Lorder to!!!!
[07:49] <zulfi> any one else agree with Krishnandu just wanna know if not then yeah ill install windows for sure beucase that right ill avoid problems later
[07:49] <Jordan_U> ubuntu91human_: Ubuntu 10.10 should be smart enough not to install to your internal drive, but as far as I can tell there is no way to confirm that before installing.
[07:49] <dancek> shai__, i'd look at virtualbox logs before going very deep into ubuntu logs since there's not as much to look for
[07:49] <und3rgr0undz3r0> how do I install the drivers for my ATI Radeon® Xpress 1100?
[07:50] <KB1JWQ> shai__: man core might be useful at some point.
[07:50] <VectorX> is there a ubuntu install dvd instead of the cd, which is more comprehensive  ?
[07:50] <zulfi> ok never mind then thank you! for your help : )
[07:50] <KB1JWQ> zipp0: Windows will stomp grub, so install it first. :-)
[07:50] <ubuntu91human_> Krishnandu, Jordan_U : but I am 100% sure you have options before install Ubuntu 10.04
[07:50] <RudyValencia> VectorX: Yes
[07:50] <VectorX> can i get a link
[07:50] <ubuntu91human_> Krishnandu, Jordan_U : that's why I say '
[07:50] <Krishnandu> ubuntu91human_, well...if you are not sure then better disconnect your HDD before installing...
[07:50] <ubuntu91human_> Krishnandu, Jordan_U : that's why I say 10.04 is better 10.10
[07:51] <ubuntu91human_> Krishnandu, Jordan_U : that's why I say 10.04 is better than 10.10
[07:51] <edagar> Does anyone know if D-Link DWA-160 Wireless N USB will work under ubuntu 10.04? or 10.10?
[07:51] <und3rgr0undz3r0> anyone know how to install ATI Drivers in 10.10?
[07:51] <ubuntu91human_> Jordan_U : I though you have tried 10.10 already?
[07:51] <Jordan_U> ubuntu91human_: Yes.
[07:52] <VectorX> RudyValencia can i get a link
[07:52] <Krishnandu> und3rgr0undz3r0, See in System > Advanced/Preferences > Hardware Drivers
[07:52] <ubuntu91human_> Jordan_U : Did you really see the "advance button" for choosing where to install GRUB to?
[07:52] <und3rgr0undz3r0> Krishnandu: it doesnt show up there!
[07:52] <RudyValencia> sure, just a sec
[07:52] <RudyValencia> 10.10 or 10.04?
[07:52] <ubuntu91human_> in 10.04, it has sda or sdb or sdc etc.
[07:53] <Jordan_U> ubuntu91human_: No. I was wrong about it existing in 10.10, and I already stated as much earlier.
[07:53] <ubuntu91human_> or sd0, sd1, sd2, something like that
[07:53] <RudyValencia> VectorX: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download#dvd
[07:53] <und3rgr0undz3r0> Krishnandu: I'm also using KDE, but in Gnome it didnt show up eithere
[07:54] <VectorX> RudyValencia ok so from that descriptin its basically pointless getting it right
[07:54] <RudyValencia> no
[07:54] <VectorX> if its just langs
[07:54] <ubuntu91human_> Jordan_U, so that is an bug in 10.10 right? NO option to choose where to install GRUB to
[07:54] <RudyValencia> you *can* get it
[07:54] <ubuntu91human_> Jordan_U, so that is a bug in 10.10 right? NO option to choose where to install GRUB to. Am I correct?
[07:54] <Krishnandu> und3rgr0undz3r0, In that case download from ATI's site...
[07:54] <RudyValencia> well, I don't know
[07:54] <und3rgr0undz3r0> Krishnandu: they have linux drivers?
[07:54]  * RudyValencia out
[07:55] <Krishnandu> und3rgr0undz3r0, they should have....check it...
[07:55] <Jordan_U> ubuntu91human_: Yes.
[07:55] <ubuntu91human_> Jordan_U, thank you
[07:56] <ubuntu91human_> Jordan_U, thank you, for your help and please do stay here for a while, I might be back in a couple of days. or would you mind lettting me get in touch with you by Email?
[07:57] <ubuntu91human_> all right.... I need to go now, thanks.
[07:59] <metzyn> With the issue of enabling Unity... I already had it installed yet I do not see it in my list under login screens.
[07:59] <jeri> im having an issue
[08:00] <dewsworld> Can anyone help me? I've an USB WiMax adapter but I can't get it work on ubuntu 10.04
[08:01] <jeri> Anyone can you help me? I was trying to instal ubuntu and it nevber made it past the user name making screen .the laptop came unplugged and died and now its not doing anything
[08:02] <jeri> what did i do wrong?
[08:02] <greenmang0> jeri: what do you mean by laptop died? can't you start it?
[08:03] <metzyn> **cannot enable unity... using ubuntu 10.10 netbook edition** please help
[08:03] <jeri> power plugg got yoinked out im restarting install but when i started the first time ii couldnt get passed the naming stage
[08:04] <jeri> maybe im using the wrong version? do i use netbook for laptop or?
[08:04] <greenmang0> jeri: no.. what's the arch of your system?
[08:05] <jeri> whast that mean?
[08:05] <jeri> sorry kinda stupid about this
[08:05] <greenmang0> jeri: you can use desktop/alternate edition for your laptop
[08:05] <jeri> o ok
[08:05] <JoeMaverickSett> jeri: also do keep in mind that in the username box, it should be in lowercases.
[08:06] <greenmang0> jeri: 32bit or 64bit CPU?
[08:06] <jeri> OH ok it wasnt lowercase
[08:06] <israfel> erver irc.newnet.net
[08:06] <jeri> i think it was i was using uppercase
[08:07] <shai__> dancek: nothing seems obvious in the VB logs...
[08:07] <jeri> yea im good thanks
[08:07] <Slipknot6669> Im wondering if there are any virtual drive programs for ubuntu? Like Daemon Tools or Alchohol 120?
[08:07] <KB1JWQ> Slipknot6669: To mount ISOs?
[08:07] <Slipknot6669> yes
[08:07] <shades> it's called mount
[08:07] <KB1JWQ> Slipknot6669: Mount the .iso as a loopback device, you're done. :-)
[08:07] <shades> -o loop
[08:08] <RealOpty> i have an odd issue where when after use the media keys on my keyboard, my mouse wont click on things anymore
[08:08] <Slipknot6669> Ok
[08:09] <Slipknot6669> Wow Linux is awesome!! Wish Id have gotten stated with this earlier. So long Window for good!!
[08:10] <Slipknot6669> Ok what about an encoding program such as Handbrake?
[08:10] <KB1JWQ> Slipknot6669: Handbrake works under Linux.
[08:10] <KB1JWQ> !handbrake
[08:11] <Slipknot6669> Sweet didnt find it in the software center. Ill check their website.
[08:12] <ashiswin> how d
[08:12] <ashiswin> Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.
[08:12] <ashiswin> The X11 driver is missing.  Check your build!
[08:12] <ashiswin> i get that error, how do i install the x11 driver?
[08:13] <yaoziyuan> one thing i don't understand: when we update packages (especially in a graphical desktop environment), how does linux keep running programs from being affected by the updating process?
[08:13] <greenmang0> yaoziyuan: not everytime...
[08:13] <ashiswin> "Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded. The X11 driver is missing.  Check your build!" I get this when using wine. is there any way to install the X11 drivers?
[08:14] <trj021782> hello all
[08:14] <yaoziyuan> in windows, when a binary is running, it usually can't be deleted/updated
[08:14] <greenmang0> yaoziyuan: that's because in linux, files are not accessed using their name but inode
[08:15] <JoeMaverickSett> ashiswin: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-381183.html ?
[08:15] <greenmang0> yaoziyuan: that's why if you are playing an mp3 and while it's playing if you move or rename it... still media players plays it w/o interruption
[08:15] <und3rgr0undz3r0> Can I use a windows driver to activate my gfx card?
[08:16] <Man[tis]> lol
[08:16] <yaoziyuan> greenmang0: because when i move/rename it, the original copy is preserved somewhere else?
[08:16] <hblount> hi. is there a way to find games/apps for lubuntu like u can on ubuntu? like that thing where it shows u list of apps/games,description,rating,little picture....can't seem to find that in lubuntu
[08:16] <ashiswin> JoeMaverickSett, there is no solution there
[08:16] <antIP> Rhythmbox isn't minimizing in the notification area correctly. It's showing up as a black line in between dropbox and xchat. Here's an img: http://imagebin.org/119004 (I'm running 10.10) Any suggestions?
[08:16] <yaoziyuan> greenmang0: like copy-on-delete?
[08:16] <Tribaal> Hi all. Anybody have any experience with UEC? Is this the right place to ask questions about it?
[08:16] <JoeMaverickSett> ashiswin: oh, sorry my bad. will look for more info. :/
[08:16] <ashiswin> its k :D
[08:16] <trj021782> Does anyone know of a graphical frontend for Testdisk?
[08:17] <KB1JWQ> ...what?
[08:17] <Flannel> hblount: I'm not sure what analog Lubuntu would have.  Have you tried asking in #lubuntu?
[08:17] <greenmang0> yaoziyuan: no... the file is accessed using inode number.. when you move/rename file... either it's location or name changes but not the inode number
[08:17] <greenmang0> yaoziyuan: try ls -id /tmp
[08:17] <KB1JWQ> trj021782: If you're using testdisk you shouldn't need a GUI. If you do, you should probably request help from someone. :-)
[08:17] <Slipknot6669> Handbrake 0.9.4 is no longer available due to compatibility issues with the newer version of gnome.
[08:17] <Slipknot6669> :(
[08:17] <ashiswin> greenmang0 its 8177
[08:17] <ashiswin> whats that?
[08:17] <Slipknot6669> can only get nightly builds
[08:17] <hblount> Flannel: yeah...ppl there are more hardcore linux, tellin me to use terminal and stuff. im linux noob....want gui :(
[08:17] <yaoziyuan> greenmang0: i somewhat got what you mean. an inode seems to be an identifier that guarantees a process continuous access of a file
[08:18] <yaoziyuan> greenmang0: once a process "opens" a file, it gets an inode copy of the file
[08:18] <JoeMaverickSett> ashiswin: you got the error from wine, am i right?
[08:18] <greenmang0> yaoziyuan: yeah...  read "man ls" and check what does option "-i" stand for
[08:18] <ashiswin> yes JoeMaverickSett
[08:18] <marcel> hi
[08:18] <marcel> I've a problem
[08:19] <KB1JWQ> marcel: Life's tough all over. :-)  What's the issue?
[08:19] <Slipknot6669> hblount-Yeah I thought the same thing, but the terminal really isnt that bad. Ive been using Linux for a total of about 48 hours and Im loving it.
[08:19] <yaoziyuan> greenmang0: what if i delete it?
[08:19] <marcel> i've installed ubuntu 10.10 (64bit)
[08:19] <marcel> on my laptop
[08:19] <KB1JWQ> !ask | marcel
[08:19] <reeniginEesreveR> can ssh be used as VPN when the client is MS Windows?
[08:19] <trj021782> KBLJWQ - although I appreciate your input I want a frontend because testdisk is not giving me the attributes of of the two boot sector records it found so i do not know which one to use, this is importnat because this drive has been partitioned on the fly so I NEED to restore the proper boot record
[08:19] <marcel> my laptop has the nvidia graphic: geforce 310m
[08:20] <JoeMaverickSett> ashiswin: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-245356.html
[08:20] <KB1JWQ> trj021782: I do understand that, but how would a GUI fix this situation?
[08:20] <KB1JWQ> trj021782: Back up both, try one.  If it fails, try the other.
[08:20] <marcel> I have no picture on my screen, but when I put another screen on my vga plug
[08:20] <marcel> i get a picture
[08:20] <marcel> so what can I do
[08:20] <marcel> to get a picture on the laptop screen?
[08:21] <yaoziyuan> greenmang0: if a linux executable file is run, it generally no longer requires the file itself to remain intacted, right?
[08:21] <greenmang0> yaoziyuan: it still plays it
[08:21] <ashiswin> >.< thanks JoeMaverickSett, but the attatchment link doesnt work anymore
[08:21] <trj021782> I have yet to find a backup option i tried to dump it but it gave me a hex string which I must admit meant nothing to me
[08:21] <JoeMaverickSett> ashiswin: yeah i saw that. have you looked at the bottom?
[08:21] <trj021782> I mean to say it gave the hex string as a dump option
[08:21] <Mathuin> So the latest Empathy doesn't have Gnome's IRC server in it?  What's up with that?  I'm trying to figure out how to print this Gnumeric document -- it keeps coredumping -- but I can't get to the Gnome IRC server to ask in #gnumeric.
[08:22] <greenmang0> yaoziyuan: i just tried to play mp3 from one terminal using mplayer and deleted that mp3 from another terminal using "rm -rf" and  mplayer is still playing that file
[08:22] <Mathuin> You'd think the Gnome IRC server would be in there since that's where you go for support for Empathy. :-P
[08:22] <marcel> can sb. help me?
[08:22] <ashiswin> yea juz did JoeMaverickSett, thanks so much :D gonna try that now
[08:22] <trj021782> KBLJWQ - I was hoping that a frontend would make options I was unaware of accessible through a menu system
[08:23] <yaoziyuan> greenmang0: my original question is like this: when windows undergoes a major "distro upgrade", it uses a "windows setup" program that takes over the whole computer (no other apps can run at the same time)
[08:23] <KB1JWQ> trj021782: nah, man testdisk is the way to go to find out the options.
[08:24] <yaoziyuan> greenmang0: while how could a linux distro do a major distro upgrade without shutting down other apps/gnome/kde/x first?
[08:24] <ayi> is it possible to make dhclient or any other program ask for DHCP just to see what DHCP servers are on a LAN=
[08:24] <KB1JWQ> File attributes are stored in metadata, so it's possible that there actually aren't any from what it scrapes off the platter, trj021782
[08:24] <Mathuin> ... that's because the Gimpnet choice is the one for Gnome.  Of course.  *throws hands up in frustration*
[08:24] <JoeMaverickSett> ashiswin: try to ask in #winehq also. :)
[08:24] <ayi> without assigning to NIC afterwards?
[08:24] <yaoziyuan> greenmang0: that mp3 still playing probably because of caching
[08:24] <Mathuin> Sorry to bother you. :-(
[08:24] <KB1JWQ> trj021782: Er, are metadata stored in inodes, rather. :-)
[08:24] <ashiswin> JoeMaverickSett, they told me to come here. And the tip didnt work >.< any other solutions?
[08:24] <Afzal-bigbell> hello
[08:25] <JoeMaverickSett> ashiswin: oh, i'm sorry.you could ask the question again and those that have encountered it might help you.
[08:25] <greenmang0> yaoziyuan: not possible
[08:25] <Afzal-bigbell> do u know how to hack
[08:26] <ashiswin> sure
[08:26] <trj021782> KBLJWQ - I do not think i have made myself clear to you
[08:26] <ashiswin> "Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded. The X11 driver is missing.  Check your build!" I get this when using wine. is there any way to install the X11 drivers?
[08:26] <Man[tis]> looooool
[08:26] <yaoziyuan> how can linux update an app that is running? in windows, apps are generally required to shut down before being updated
[08:26] <Krishnandu> how to point out what video driver I"m using..??
[08:26] <greenmang0> yaoziyuan: it's right that while upgrading linux doesn't shutdown any apps and system remains usable... but i have experienced that the running apps behave  abnormally
[08:27] <greenmang0> yaoziyuan: so you have to restart the apps...
[08:27] <greenmang0> yaoziyuan: so i guess the reason is same.... inode number is used for accessing files
[08:27] <ashiswin> found out JoeMavericSett
[08:27] <ashiswin> found out JoeMaverickSett*
[08:27] <ashiswin> and for all those who have the same problem
[08:27] <ashiswin> do this: sudo cp /usr/lib/wine/winex11.drv.so /usr/local/lib/wine/
[08:28] <JoeMaverickSett> ashiswin: you might want to write that in the ubuntuforums. :)
[08:28] <trj021782> oh well, i have an hour to wait until this last batch of hash checks is done so I shall see if I can be of assitance
[08:28] <ashiswin> sure :D
[08:29] <trj021782> Does any one need any advice? I MAY be able to help
[08:30] <Man[tis]> trj021782: yeah how do i turn off multi-threading support in the kernel? i kinda need my ubuntu to be more linear
[08:30] <Man[tis]> is there a way to just change it to a monolithic kernel?
[08:30] <Man[tis]> that would be greeeat
[08:30] <yaoziyuan> greenmang0: so, when we do a major upgrade (like distro upgrade or upgrades that affect x, gnome, kde and important services), we should either do it in a minimum environment (without entering X), or
[08:30] <trj021782> what version of ubuntu?
[08:30] <Man[tis]> lol
[08:30] <Man[tis]> you understand what im asking right?
[08:31] <yaoziyuan> greenmang0: or always attend it (never leave the computer)?
[08:31] <trj021782> yes, and I do not think it can be done but more so i was going to ask why you would want that
[08:31] <Flannel> yaoziyuan: You can do it in X just fine.  That program won't be upgraded in place in most cases, but the next time it starts it will, etc.
[08:31] <trj021782> I suppose a sufficintly old system might benefit from it but I doubt that eve
[08:31] <trj021782> even*
[08:31] <greenmang0> yaoziyuan: i normally prefer CLI for upgrading
[08:32] <trj021782> I suck at spelling today
[08:32] <trj021782> and most days
[08:32] <ForgeAus> greenmang0, you mean sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[08:32] <greenmang0> ForgeAus: yeah ... but I use aptitude
[08:32] <Man[tis]> replacing the ubuntu kernel with a monolithic kernel would make it something that isnt linux
[08:33] <Man[tis]> so....yes i was trolling
[08:33] <ForgeAus> I prefer an object oriented microkernel... but hey we can't always get what we wnat!
[08:33] <Man[tis]> loool
[08:33] <trj021782> sorry, sarcasm is sometimes hard to tell when I cannot hear tone of voice
[08:33] <Man[tis]> indeed
[08:34] <Man[tis]> you sounded not-confident with your usage of MAY so i decided to throw something obscure out there
[08:34] <ForgeAus> besides linux IS the kernel, most distros are actually GNU-OS running on a Linux Kernel
[08:34] <Man[tis]> wut
[08:35] <trj021782> My lack of confidence is because I have only been using linux for a few years, so there is much i do not know yet
[08:35] <idefixx> I've been using linux for half my life
[08:35] <idefixx> and there is much I don't know
[08:36] <ForgeAus> from fedora to debian to gentoo to slakware, thats right its mostly all GNU/OS, the OS itself is not Linux, the Kernel is, which means by means of inheritance Ubuntu is too!...
[08:36] <pie_time> hello, i did something to disable ipv6 but now i dont remember what it was. I'd like to reverse it now because its causing problems with ssh.
[08:36] <trj021782> as far a general knowledge and an understanding of hyperthreading, That I'm good with
[08:36] <soreau> pie_time: Check sys>prefs>networking?
[08:36] <ForgeAus> I lvoe hyperthreading :)
[08:37] <pie_time> soreau, no that's not it
[08:37] <soreau> pie_time: Prehaps some file you messed with in /etc?
[08:37] <idefixx> pie_time: did you blacklist the ipv6 module?
[08:38] <DJones> !ipv6 | pie_time This is the instructions on how to disable ipv6, that may give you a starter on how to re-enable it
[08:38] <trj021782> ForgeAus - indeed or in my case Xubuntu - the apparent bastard child of a mouse and a word
[08:38] <ForgeAus> I'm not certain how or what of debian Ubuntu inherits exactly but it seems in terms of kernels and userlands, etc... it mostly is Canonical candy ontop of a strong debian-like system of GNU/OS  on a Linux Kernel
[08:38] <ForgeAus> rofl trj021782  ... even Xubuntu follows that rule, as well as the one you said :)
[08:39] <trj021782> ForgeAus - I switched to X because I broke two Ubuntu installs and one YDL and everyone seems to say thatXubuntu runs better on the PS3 anyway
[08:39] <trj021782> and it does, it IS snappier
[08:40] <idefixx> basically ubuntu is a tuned up sid imo
[08:40] <ForgeAus> ps3! kewl :)
[08:40] <ForgeAus> personally I prefer Kubuntu
[08:40] <ForgeAus> dunno how it stacks up for PS3 tho
[08:40] <ForgeAus> yes well XFCE is liter, so thats why it is snappier
[08:41] <pie_time> soreau, DJones that didnt fix it
[08:41] <pie_time> idefixx, no id didnt
[08:41] <ForgeAus> you'd probably find something like fluxbox would be even faster
[08:41] <soreau> pie_time: You didn't say what you tried to fix it..
[08:41] <trj021782> Kubuntu is supposed to be better that Ubuntu but most people were signing the praise of Xubunut so i figured I would try that first
[08:41] <pie_time> soreau, i tried looking at the blacklist
[08:41] <pie_time> its not blacklisted there
[08:42] <fr0stbyte> KDE sucks imo mmkay GNOME!
[08:42] <ForgeAus> trj021782,  in terms of performance I wouldn't expect to find an increase with kubuntu, but functionality/use of it, I believe does improve, however if your happy with Xubuntu I don't think I'm going to change your mind...
[08:43] <fr0stbyte> its like how OSS is -suppose- to be better than alsa?
[08:43] <ForgeAus> I still think of XFCE as pretty much gnome-lite
[08:43] <soreau> pie_time: Do you see any output from 'lsmod|grep ip'?
[08:43] <trj021782> You guys will like this - when i first installed Ubuntu I was doing all of my configuration and my friend started asking if i would be able to do any cool 3D gaming in linux
[08:43] <greenmang0> pie_time: what about /etc/modprobe.d/aliases?
[08:43] <ForgeAus> fr0stbyte, I don't know sound systems enough to be able to comment on that one
[08:43] <trj021782> I said no, it doesn't have access to the GPU
[08:44] <soreau> trj021782: Sounds like OT. Try #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:44] <sporkboy> okay. x still won't load with nvidia drivers, and I can't find a single actual error.
[08:44] <ForgeAus> trj? ps3 without acess to GPU? sounds... neutered
[08:44] <trj021782> ah, I see we have the topic police on staff today
[08:44] <soreau> sporkboy: How did you try installing the drivers?
[08:45] <pie_time> greenmang0, nothing there either. soreau i did a grep for ipv6 and nothing came up
[08:45] <ForgeAus> soreau, blame me.. I'm the one that went off topic
[08:45] <soreau> trj021782: You should always respect a channels topic regardless if there are police or not
[08:45] <trj021782> ForgeAus - no access for linux but it is still a PS#, so that is where I will do my complex 3D gaming
[08:45] <ForgeAus> however it was in response to on-topic stuff lol
[08:45] <slidinghorn> I hate when people get all pissy for someone pointing out the fact that THEY aren't following the rules...........
[08:45] <sporkboy> soreau: from apt and from the nvidia binaries on the 2 most recent versions of the driver.
[08:45] <ForgeAus> lol slidinghorn
[08:46] <trj021782> soreau - I will keep it on the straight and narrow
[08:46] <antIP> Rhythmbox isn't minimizing in the notification area correctly. It's showing up as a black line in between dropbox and xchat. Here's an img: http://imagebin.org/119004 (I'm running 10.10) Any suggestions?
[08:46] <ForgeAus> trj021782, just out of curiousity what video driver does linux on a ps3 use?
[08:46] <soreau> sporkboy: You probably messed up when you used the binary. Was it working before? Did you try reinstalling it with jockey-gtk?
[08:46] <ForgeAus> I almost buogt a ps3! I was going to run mac OSX on it at one stage...
[08:47] <ForgeAus> until I heard th eprocessor was the wrong kind of PPC
[08:47] <soreau> ! ot | ForgeAus
[08:47] <trj021782> Mesa - it is a suite of drivers released by some company - but the driver is not the issue, the hypervisor blocks access from the other_os feature
[08:47] <srini_> i got the message while configuring a samba printer in XP " access denied unable to connected " how to solve this
[08:47] <ForgeAus> also what do you do for a keyboard for PS3?
[08:47] <sporkboy> soreau, stopped working on upgrade to 10.10. yes I enabled it in jockey, but haven't been able to get it to be 'in use'.
[08:48] <slidinghorn> srini_:  sounds like a permissions issue, but we can't really be too sure unless you provide more details
[08:48] <soreau> sporkboy: Alright, pastebin your X log
[08:48] <ForgeAus> soreau, ahh thats better, i was the one offtopic.. right?
[08:48] <trj021782> ForgeAus - normal keyboard bought it at walmart for $7
[08:48] <srini_> slidinghorn: what details i should give?
[08:49] <trj021782> Logitech
[08:49] <ForgeAus> trj021782, hypervisor? isn't that for virtualization?
[08:49] <soreau> ! details | srini_
[08:49] <sporkboy> soreau,  http://pastebin.com/fxPr8P2f
[08:49] <ForgeAus> trj021782, your running xubunt via vmware/virtualbox or the like?
[08:49] <greenmang0> pie_time: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianIPv6#HowtoturnoffIPv6
[08:49] <trj021782> ForgeAus - on the PS3 it controls most aspects of the system, it is in essence sony's doorman
[08:50] <srini_> ubottu: i m running ubuntu 9.04  hp 1319 usb printer.
[08:50] <ForgeAus> trj021782, so you can't run linux natively on it?
[08:50] <trj021782> ForgeAus - no i am running linux straight - from a 10gig partition on the PS3 hard drive
[08:50] <soreau> sporkboy: Says it failed to initialize the nvidia kernel module. Pastebin the output of 'dmesg'
[08:50]  * ForgeAus shrugs...
[08:50] <trj021782> I boot straight to xubuntu
[08:51] <sporkboy> soreau, http://pastebin.com/hz1zWE9h
[08:51] <ForgeAus> trj021782, so why have a hypervisor?... xen?
[08:51] <ForgeAus> UML?
[08:51] <ForgeAus> wait i don'think UML uses a hypervisor come to think of it
[08:51] <greenmang0> pie_time:  put 1 in /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/eth0/disable_ipv6
[08:52] <trj021782> ForgeAus - it is not optional it is coded in the firmware of the sony OS
[08:52] <machaira9> hey there, anyone know what would prevent a partition from being flagged as bootable during install of ubuntu server 10.10?
[08:52] <machaira9> this thins is driving me nuts.
[08:52] <srini_> slidinghorn: I am using ubuntu 9.04 and connected HP 1319 usb printer
[08:52] <ForgeAus> trj021782, oh you mean sony's proprietary firmware has restrictions?
[08:52] <trj021782> macharia9 - a missing/damaged boot sector would do it
[08:53] <greenmang0> machaira9: i guess the installer displays the option for that
[08:53] <pie_time> greenmang0, the exim4 section of the link you gave me looks like what I did. What is the equivalent in Ubuntu?
[08:53] <trj021782> ForgeAus - correct
[08:53] <ForgeAus> trj021782, ouch! once again neutered :(
[08:53] <greenmang0> pie_time: /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/eth0/disable_ipv6 check this file
[08:53] <pie_time> but my interface is not eth0
[08:54] <soreau> sporkboy: your syslog says it loaded the nvidia module fine, so your drivers must be confused. Try using jockey-gtk to remove them and reinstall the packages
[08:54] <greenmang0> machaira9: or just go in the terminal use fdisk and to turn off bootable flag
[08:54] <trj021782> ForgeAus - just until I get some components I ordered - then i am going to start looking into dumping the hypervisor and start sifting through it
[08:54] <greenmang0> pie_time: ok then do ls /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf
[08:54] <greenmang0> pie_time: you will find all the system interfaces listed there
[08:55] <greenmang0> pie_time: cd to the interface of your choice and to the changes in disable_ipv6 file
[08:55] <sporkboy> soreau, so... deactivate, purge, install, activate?
[08:55] <greenmang0> pie_time:  s/to/do
[08:55] <machaira9> greenmang0: i'm installing from a usb drive, so i don't believe i have fdisk. i'm trying to set the boot flag to "on"; but it won't toggle.
[08:55] <pie_time> greenmang0, there is already a 1 in this file
[08:56] <greenmang0> pie_time: that means ipv6 is disabled ... put 0
[08:56] <trj021782> I still have 50,000 hash checks left until i am done, there must be something to talk about that is not off-topic
[08:56] <greenmang0> machaira9: are you using ncurses based interface for installation?
[08:57] <greenmang0> machaira9: if yes then it does give you an option to toggle bootable flag
[08:57] <pie_time> greenmang0, it says it could not save: Unexpected error: Error writing to file: Invalid argument
[08:57] <machaira9> greenmang0: i'm not sure. i got the image from ubuntu.com and used universal usb installer to make the bootable usb drive.
[08:57] <greenmang0> pie_time: echo '0' > /path/to/your/interface/file
[08:57] <machaira9> greenmang0: i do have the option for boot flag; but it won't set in partman.