[02:43] <zeeeeeee> help - i was running update-manager to upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10, but it had tons of errors for some reason (ubuntu had otherwise been running smoothly). i decided to try again by rebooting, but now my system's completely hosed - i can't start gnome, i barely figured out how to get wifi working from the cli, and i can't even start vi because of missing shared libs.
[02:43] <FudgeYou> does anyone know how to hack wifi encription
[02:43] <TylerDurden> hi, my firefox refuses to boot up, it often crashes and i have to restart to get it back up again. but i'm wgetting something right now, is there a way to "kill" firefox so i can use it again? (but i don't see it in sys terminal)
[02:43] <Pooky> Cause I need to get a new laptop for work, and I want to get something that unlike my macbook with linux, works worth a damn.
[02:43] <GaiaX11> FantasticFoo: yes
[02:43] <FantasticFoo> GaiaX11: k
[02:43] <calvarez> FudgeYou, why>
[02:43] <calvarez> ?
[02:43] <FantasticFoo> GaiaX11: and how does that help me? what should i do with the output
[02:43] <zeeeeeee> any hope of rescuing my laptop from this situation?
[02:43] <sable> FudgeYou:  What type of encription?
[02:43] <holycow> FudgeYou, wrong question for the wrong channel
[02:43] <calvarez> zeeeeeee, yes, fresh install
[02:43] <holycow> please take that to google
[02:43] <Dabian> Pooky: Buy Z .. get a broken system that will run like Royal Rouge if you manage to get it working.
[02:44] <FudgeYou> fbecause my school they encripted it and wont let students use it
[02:44] <Pooky> Dabian, is there even like, a supported hardware list anywhere?
[02:44] <zeeeeeee> calvarez: really? that's it?
[02:44] <holycow> Pooky, yes on the wiki
[02:44] <shatrat> TylerDurden, killall firefox or maybe killall firefox-bin
[02:44] <Dabian> Pooky : SOmething like that ..
[02:44] <calvarez> zeeeeeee, hmm, if you want a very reliable installation, yes
[02:44] <Dabian> holycow !!
[02:44] <GaiaX11> FantasticFoo: If it pings, you have to set up your school host to accept your home ip connection there
[02:44] <Dabian> holycow : Didn't you run Debian some time back?
[02:44] <shatrat> TylerDurden, but im sure there must be some solution to your problem, maybe you have an older flash plugin and your homepage has flash in it?  When firefox crashes the #1 suspect is flash imo
[02:44] <calvarez> zeeeeeee, if you could fix it reliably, you wouldn't be asking how to do it, so I strongly recommend a fresh install
[02:44] <holycow> Dabian, nope, i wish
[02:45] <TylerDurden> shatrat, it says there is no process to be killed
[02:45] <Dabian> holycow : OK .. I thought I saw you in a debian help channel once.
[02:45] <FantasticFoo> GaiaX11: hmm
[02:45] <holycow> Dabian, ah i'm there always actually
[02:45] <zeeeeeee> sigh...ok
[02:45] <Dabian> LjL: Just ban all of AOL .. most are bad anyhow.
[02:45] <LjL> heh
[02:45] <TylerDurden> shatrat, my homepage is google, it usually crashes randomly, for example i just opened a screenshot this time and it crashed, when trying to open it just tries to load it for 15 seconds and then dies
[02:45] <FantasticFoo> ok
[02:45] <calvarez> why was yellojello banned?
[02:45] <FantasticFoo> time to do homework
[02:45] <LjL> anyway yellojello and fudgeyou were clones, for those wondering.
[02:45] <FantasticFoo> bye guys
[02:46] <calvarez> oh
[02:46] <LjL> calvarez: see above.
[02:46] <holycow> actually i want to know also
[02:46] <calvarez> LjL, is it against the rules to have multiple instances connected from the same computer?
[02:46] <audimage> LjL I followed the instructions, however grub returned this:
[02:46] <audimage> grub> setup (hd0,5)
[02:46] <audimage>  Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists... yes
[02:46] <audimage>  Checking if "/boot/grub/stage2" exists... yes
[02:46] <audimage>  Checking if "/boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5" exists... yes
[02:46] <audimage>  Running "embed /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd0,5)"... failed (this is not fatal)
[02:46] <Dabian> calvarez : Darn aol users.
[02:46] <audimage>  Running "embed /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd0,5)"... failed (this is not fatal)
[02:46] <audimage>  Running "install /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0,5) /boot/grub/stage2 p /boot/grub/menu
[02:46] <audimage> .lst "... failed
[02:46] <DARKGuy> Ahhhh
[02:46] <DARKGuy> !paste
[02:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:46] <shatrat> TylerDurden, that is odd, its quite stable for me across all my OSes.  Im not sure where to start to try and diagnose a firefox crash,  perhaps try reinstalling, perhaps a different version
[02:46] <LjL> calvarez: no, but when both connected users are troll, you're quite likely to get a ban.
[02:46] <LjL> anyway, this is offtopic.
[02:46] <Mena> Is there a best a progarm to dowenload files from  the inernet
[02:47] <calvarez> makes sense. Thanks
[02:47] <TylerDurden> shatrat, i dont know either, but it's ok, im reinstallting tomorrow anyhow, i've had a bunch of problems so far
[02:47] <mrbrdo> i've got a problem with the nvidia drivers..
[02:47] <holycow> mrbrdo, just ask
[02:47] <GaiaX11> Mena: which kind of files?
[02:47] <mrbrdo> wait, i'm writing ;)
[02:47] <calvarez> TylerDurden, usually crashes are plugin problem
[02:47] <GaiaX11> Mena: .deb ?
[02:47] <Mena> any files
[02:48] <Dabian> holycow: Are you by any chance using wifi?
[02:48] <Mena> i mean an internet dowenload manger as IDM
[02:48] <calvarez> TylerDurden, try uninstalling firefox, then delete /home/<your_user_name>/.mozilla, then reinstall firefox
[02:48] <holycow> Dabian, not exactly sure what that means, i buy supported hardware and plug it in and go, so yes.
[02:48] <Dabian> holycow : I have an ASUS mobo .. but I can't the onboard wifi working (even though it should work) so I want to buy something better.
[02:48] <holycow> what chipset?
[02:48] <Asc__> mena - never used IDM, but I find aria's a nice download manager.
[02:48] <GaiaX11> Mena: do you already know apt-get and synaptic?
[02:48] <Dabian> holycow 590
[02:49] <calvarez> make sure you don't have multiple instances of a plugin installed. For example, I installed the Flash 9 plugin, and I didn't realize I still had Flash 7 plugin installed
[02:49] <Dabian> holycow nforce 590
[02:49] <Mena> Gaiiax11,yes
[02:49] <holycow> oh wait for a realease or two
[02:49] <holycow> chances are thats nforce 6
[02:49] <TylerDurden> is there any other browser in gnome that i could temporarly use? (outside of terminal-text ones)
[02:49] <holycow> thats not supported until a later kernel and backports for drivers are taking long
[02:49] <calvarez> TylerDurden, install epiphany
[02:49] <Dabian> holycow : I want to get rid of my cable ...
[02:49] <frogzoo> sable: anyway, did wine install ok, apart from the missing key?
[02:49] <holycow> get an extra supported peripheral in the meantime
[02:49] <holycow> or wait
[02:49] <shatrat> TylerDurden, well, you could install Opera
[02:49] <holycow> not worth trying to muck about manually unless your comfy compiling
[02:50] <calvarez> Epiphany, Opera, etc
[02:50] <TylerDurden> so there isn't one built in?
[02:50] <DARKGuy> I like Galeon
[02:50] <Dabian> holycow : I used to compile kernel myself .. but its too much work when you don't do it for the fun of it.
[02:50] <Asc__> opera's not in repos, last I checked
[02:50] <calvarez> Epiphany is the official GNOME web browser,  but it's usually not installed by default, firefox is
[02:51] <TylerDurden> calvarez, is there a way to run 2+ apt-gets at a time?
[02:51] <calvarez> hmm?
[02:51] <GaiaX11> Mena: do you know d4x?
[02:51] <frogzoo> TylerDurden: nope
[02:51] <brombomb> Anyone know where the setting to turn on/off accents using the " key?
[02:51] <calvarez> you can only run only one instance of dpkg at a time
[02:51] <TylerDurden> ok
[02:51] <calvarez> why, are you already running apt-get?
[02:51] <TylerDurden> yup
[02:52] <Clint-> evening all
[02:52] <Being> hi
[02:52] <calvarez> you're gonna have to wait until it's done :/
[02:52] <Dabian> calvarez : Make that "you're only supposed to run one instance of dpkg at a time". :)
[02:52] <Being> you know the menu list ,can the color be changes ?
[02:52] <mrbrdo> okay, i have a clean install of kubuntu amd64 edgy, i followed the instructions here: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/BerylOnEdgy#Option_1: and installed the nvidia-glx drivers..
[02:52] <Clint-> need a bit of help
[02:52] <Being> changed?
[02:52] <Dabian> mrbrdo : Why?
[02:52] <Asc__> TylerDuren: sure.  type apt-get [operation]  [package one, package two, package n]  :p
[02:52] <GaiaX11> !ask | Clint
[02:52] <ubotu> Clint: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:52] <calvarez> Dabian, oh, every time I've tried to run several instances of dpkg, only the first one goes through because it locks the package database
[02:53] <Mena> Gaiiax11,YES
[02:53] <Clint-> i want to make some sort of batch file so that on double click it will launch terminal run ssh using host -l option and the pass option
[02:53] <mrbrdo> now i had a different problem just last restart, but now i'm getting FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/volatile/nvidia.ko': No such fil or directory
[02:53] <TylerDurden> Asc__ but i already have one instance running
[02:53] <mrbrdo> Dabian why?
[02:53] <Dabian> calvarez : Yeah .. you can do much in GNU/Linux though, to fool programmes.
[02:53] <Dabian> mrbrdo : Why did you follow those instructions?
[02:53] <calvarez> Dabian, well, I'm assuming typical, non-uber-1337-hacking usage here
[02:53] <mrbrdo> Dabian because i thought it'd work?
[02:53] <GaiaX11> Mena: Be more specific please
[02:53] <Asc__> tylerdurden: if it's just downloading, you can cancel it.  If it's installing, it won't take long to finish.
[02:53] <mrbrdo> Dabian better suggestion?
[02:53] <Dabian> calvarez : Right
[02:54] <Mena> Gaiiax11,yes but i am on kubuntu do you think it would work
[02:54] <Dabian> mrbrdo :  OK
[02:54] <mrbrdo> and i'll go on to try out beryl too so..
[02:54] <Mena> Gaiiax11,i know D4X i used it befor
[02:54] <GaiaX11> Mena: Where are you then?
[02:54] <Dabian> mrbrdo : I think there is a guide on the ubuntu wiki that actually works.
[02:54] <TylerDurden> Asc__ haha yeah of course I can, but when you spend 15 min downloading something you usually don't want to just cancel it.. just looking for an easy out is all
[02:54] <Mena> Gaiiax11,i am on kubuntu know and i dont like use kget
[02:54] <Mena> now*
[02:54] <Asc__> tylerdurden: Your download will resume
[02:54] <calvarez> mrbrdo, I followed the one on the beryl wiki and that one worked fine
[02:55] <TylerDurden> Asc__ how? just typing apt-get whateverpckage and it should resume?
[02:55] <corevette> so for mythtv....do you have to plug in a computer through a coaxial cabel?
[02:55] <GaiaX11> Mena: Did you like d4x?
[02:55] <calvarez> corevette, yes
[02:55] <Clint-> anyone?
[02:55] <Clint-> i want to make some sort of batch file so that on double click it will launch terminal run ssh using host -l option and the pass option
[02:55] <calvarez> corevette, you need to have a video capture or PVR card in your computer as well
[02:55] <Asc__> tylerdurden: Yeah.  Packages (and partially downloaded packages) are saved in a cache.  As long as you don't alt-get clean in the meantime, they'll still be there.
[02:56] <GaiaX11> Mena: if so, install it: sudo apt-get install d4x
[02:56] <corevette> calvarez...so would i have to buy a tvtuner card?
[02:56] <calvarez> yes
[02:56] <calvarez> I would suggest you get not just a TV tuner card, but rather a PVR card
[02:56] <Mena> Gaiiax11,yes but i wonder if there a program could make 16 conection while dowenloading like IDM so dowenloading would fast
[02:56] <calvarez> they have hardware decoding
[02:56] <Asc__> tylerdurden: (so yes; if you try to install it again, the download will resume from where you left off)
[02:56] <TylerDurden> Asc__, thanks ill keep that in mind next time
[02:57] <sable> When I run an application I installed into wine, it does nothing
[02:57] <calvarez> corevette, I would suggest 3 things: get familiar with the PVR software you want to install (MythTV, Freevo, etc) BEFORE you buy any equipment
[02:57] <sable> when I do it via shell, it just gives me > prompt
[02:57] <sable> Any ideas?
[02:57] <Mena> Gaiiax11,in way i guess i will use d4x
[02:57] <Biovore> sable: its crashing
[02:57] <Mena> any*
[02:57] <calvarez> corevette, 2) ask before you buy, the #mythtv-users channel is useful
[02:57] <prabu^> hi guys
[02:57] <corevette> how would i get familiar if i can't use it calvarez
[02:57] <sable> Yeah
[02:57] <Dabian> holycow : Is there USB-card that will work great here and now - pray'n'plug?
[02:57] <sable> Thought so, Eve is hard to get to work with linux
[02:58] <holycow> Dabian, lots of them, the wiki has a list of wireless supported devices
[02:58] <calvarez> corevette, 3) I've been recommended the Hauppauge WinTV-PVR150 or PVR-500 cards, they're the ones that work the best in l,inux
[02:58] <chris_> Hello
[02:58] <holycow> oh wait
[02:58] <holycow> lol
[02:58] <Mena> Gaiiax11,until i found any another download manger
[02:58] <holycow> usb card
[02:58] <Dabian> holycow : You have no personal expirice worth sharing?
[02:58] <holycow> no i don't know of any usb cards that work
[02:58] <calvarez> corevette, I mean, do some research before you buy equipment, make sure you understand how the system is going to work
[02:58] <sable> So how do I find out why it's crashing?
[02:58] <holycow> i thought you wrote pmci card
[02:58] <prabu^> i got a Q, i have 1 machine with a RAID1 and what we did is take the secondary HDD out from the array and put it in another machine as the primary and put another HDD in there and cloned all the 5 machines
[02:58] <holycow> Dabian, i haven't used usb network connections
[02:58] <Dabian> holocow: So .. any recommendation to pci (or pci-e) card?
[02:58] <prabu^> we got a problem now the NIC only works on the machine the image was made on
[02:59] <calvarez> corevette, if you just go buy a TV tuner card, you come back and then you go "OK, so what do I do now..." that's recipe for disaster
[02:59] <GaiaX11> Mena: Fast downloading has not to do with the program itself it has to do with your internet connection speed :-)
[02:59] <chris_> Is there currently any sort of workaround or fix for the Emblem problem with icon size >150%
[02:59] <Mena> Gaiiax11,i know
[02:59] <calvarez> corevette,  and 4) have lots of patience. If you use MythTV (with is the most feature-full PVR software there), installation and configuration is hard
[02:59] <hansent_> corvette, I use a Hauppauge PVR250 with my mythTV setup...works splendid
[02:59] <Dante123> hi all......I'm a teacher and I have a laptop with windows and ubuntu.......I prefer ubuntu by the way.....but sometimes run into trouble with it when hooking up to peripherals etc.   Today I tried to hook it up to an LCD projector....and it did work....however video I tried to show was in 1024 x768.......and would not give me any other option......does this have something to do with the fact that I was hooked up via the monitor po
[02:59] <Dante123> LCD projector?
[02:59] <Being> can any one get to gnome look ?
[02:59] <prabu^> anybody ?
[02:59] <Being> www.gnome-look.org
[03:00] <calvarez> PVR150 is the newer, cheaper version of PVR250
[03:00] <Dregin> no it was dead earlier
[03:00] <Camo`_`> I'm having trouble connecting to my school's wireless with Kvpnc... I imported the cisco vpn file from the vpn client I have on windows but it still doesnt work... it connects me, but i can't get on any websites does anyone know what's wrong?
[03:00] <Dregin> speaking of that
[03:00] <sable> Biovore: I get this error W: GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY<PHONE_NUMBER>7EE263
[03:00] <calvarez> either one is well supported
[03:00] <Mena> Gaiiax11,but also conecting to 16 conection for the server i am dowenloaing from would make the downloading a litle faster
[03:00] <hansent_> corevette, you should also look into knopMyth...makes setup super easy...and they have a list of supported hardware
[03:00] <sable> err not htat error
[03:00] <sable> Biovore: fixme:process:IsWow64Process (0xffffffff 0x33fc34) stub!
[03:00] <Mena> for>>>from*
[03:00] <sable> that error
[03:00] <Dabian> holycow : Hmmm .. I'll have to pull my computer out of this table, managing all the wires, then insert the card, and back again .. and reverse when the onboard USB-one is supported ... I guess compiling my own kernel might be worth a shot ... I guess I can build using kernel-package .. and still get my nvidia 7900gtx card working?
[03:00] <Dante123> I have found that sometimes movies won't display properly on the LCD unless i switch to 800 x 600.....but under preferences--> screen resolution....the only option that came up was 1024 x 768
[03:01] <hansent_> calcarez, does the PVR150 come with hardware mpeg2 encoding/decoding
[03:01] <corevette> i already set up hansent_
[03:01] <calvarez> hansent_, only decoding
[03:01] <Camo`_`> I'm having trouble connecting to my school's wireless with Kvpnc... I imported the cisco vpn file from the vpn client I have on windows but it still doesnt work... it connects me, but i can't get on any websites does anyone know what's wrong?
[03:01] <calvarez> the PVR350 is the only one with encoding as well
[03:01] <holycow> Dabian, sure ... i'm not certain what your criteria are so its hard to have an opinion
[03:01] <calvarez> erm, wait
[03:01] <chris_> lol ill paypal anyone $5 for the emblem fix :)
[03:02] <calvarez> the other way
[03:02] <holycow> the pvr250 has the same encoding capabilities btw... the only difference is video out
[03:02] <calvarez> hansent_, it has mpeg2 ENcoding
[03:02] <Dabian> holycow : I don't want to mess up my filesystem too much .. or the package system.
[03:02] <Camo`_`> dayam chris u rich or something?
[03:02] <chris_> no just desperate
[03:02] <Camo`_`> ohhhhhh
[03:02] <calvarez> all of them have mpeg2 encoding, only pvr350 has decoding
[03:02] <chris_> it's a huge nuisance for me
[03:02] <calvarez> but you don't want that
[03:02] <atomiku-linux`> Back.
[03:02] <chris_> I like my folders / icons a little bigger than 150%
[03:03] <calvarez> hansent_, a PVR150 + an nvidia card is cheaper, faster and more reliable than getting the 350
[03:03] <Camo`_`> isnt kde better than gnome? so why isnt ubuntu kde and they shoujld make a gubuntu for ppl who want gnome???
[03:03] <chris_> and unfortunately the emblems get cut off when it is over that
[03:03] <HymnToLife> Camo`_`, KDE is better than Gnome for people who prefer it
[03:03] <Dabian> holycow : I used to down me kernels fresh from kernel.org .. and it used to force me to install "fake" kernels to trick dependcies.  Then I started using stock kernels, until I got nvidia gfx card ..
[03:03] <calvarez> Camo`_`, it's all about user preference
[03:03] <chris_> does kde support emblems?
[03:03] <Camo`_`> i thought most people prefer kde?
[03:03] <HymnToLife> I know it may sound incredible but there are acually people who prefer Gnome
[03:03] <atomiku-linux`> So... I think its time for a little cleaning... Where do I start? Over the months I have installed all sorts of crap and installed loads of drivers that I dont even really need any more. How shall I go about cleaning ubuntu?
[03:03] <Clint-> anyone?
[03:03] <Clint-> i want to make some sort of batch file so that on double click it will launch terminal run ssh using host -l option and the pass option
[03:03] <Dante123> gnome.....more potential to woo windows users
[03:04] <calvarez> Camo`_`, I just switched to GNOME this last week after years of using KDE
[03:04] <holycow> Dabian, sweet, you should be able to help a few people in here when they come asking :)
[03:04] <Camo`_`> i have kde with beryl.. im pretty sure i can woo windows users :)
[03:04] <Camo`_`> why calvarez?
[03:04] <Camo`_`> how do u like gnome?
[03:04] <calvarez> they're both excellent, it's just a matter of preference, that's all
[03:04] <chris_> does kde have emblems?
[03:04] <Camo`_`> oic
[03:04] <Dante123> clavarez.....and what are your thoughts?
[03:05] <calvarez> Camo`_`, I don't know, I used to use KDE but I realized that most of the software I used was GTK+ (Gaim, gimp, etc)
[03:05] <Dante123> calvarez.....why did you switch?
[03:05] <calvarez> so I decided to switch
[03:05] <dooglus> calvarez: try XFCE4 some time as well if you've not yet
[03:05] <frogzoo> atomiku-linux`: maybe dpkg -l   & see what you can do away with
[03:05] <calvarez> dooglus, I have, It's too minimalistic for my taste
[03:05] <atomiku-linux`> Trying now
[03:05] <calvarez> I used to use Xubuntu
[03:05] <atomiku-linux`> Also
[03:05] <Dabian> holycow : Hmm .. I guess meanwhile there is a backport of some sort where I can get ubuntu package for my wifi?
[03:05] <calvarez> I like eye candy, and both GNOME and KDE have plenty of it
[03:06] <Camo`_`> oh yeah ... with the auto apt-get thing on my system tray, it keeps saying i have 32 updates but when I get the list of updates, it says requested action is "no change"
[03:06] <chris_> One reason I have never liked KDE a whole lot was it just gave you too much of the same thing.
[03:06] <Camo`_`> so it doesnt do anything when I click update
[03:06] <HymnToLife> calvarez, you don't know what "minimalistic" means until you've tried openbox :p
[03:06] <chris_> Too many apps preinstalled
[03:06] <shatrat> Dante123, im with calvarez,  I dont really care too much either way about gnome-panel versus kpanel or nautlius versus konqueror, but GTK beats QT
[03:06] <linxeh> calamari: and xfce does too
[03:06] <Camo`_`> what is going on?? they are mostly python updates
[03:06] <zyth> HymnToLife, evilwm.
[03:06] <HymnToLife> chris_, KDE is not Kubuntu
[03:06] <holycow> Dabian, not for nforce6 yet, not that i know of
[03:06] <Music_Shuffle> calvarez, Beryl + XFCE is shiny too if you felt like it ./shrug.
[03:06] <Dabian> holycow : Oh .. its nforce 5.
[03:06] <HymnToLife> you can very well install KDE with very few apps if you want
[03:06] <mrbrdo> Which guide would you guys recommend for installing beryl?
[03:06] <calvarez> HymnToLife, I don't intend to go on the minimalistic direction. That's why I drew my line on XFCE
[03:06] <frogzoo> !beryl | mrbrdo
[03:06] <ubotu> mrbrdo: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:06] <shatrat> mrbrdo, the help.ubuntu.com/berylonedgy one
[03:07] <calvarez> Music_Shuffle, I like Beryl + GNOME :)
[03:07] <Camo`_`> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnEdgy
[03:07] <Dabian> holycow : nforce 5 comes in 3 variants.
[03:07] <chris_> kde just seems to have too much going on
[03:07] <dacks_> quick question
[03:07] <holycow> Dabian, not sure you will haveto research it more deeply for that, i just bought nforce chips once and never again
[03:07] <Dabian> holycow : I got 590
[03:07] <calvarez> chris_, that's also the impression I get
[03:07] <mrbrdo> Camo`_` thanks i'll sure try it out
[03:07] <Camo`_`> that's what i think about gnome, chris
[03:07] <Music_Shuffle> calvarez, indeed, and if you load Beryl on startup, it'll run in XFCE too O_O
[03:07] <Dabian> holycow : I looked for alternatives .. but there were no real :(
[03:07] <MattJ> Any idea why my sound suddenly died?
[03:07] <Camo`_`> np.. i isntalled it yesterday .. it was fast and easy :)
[03:07] <dacks_> anyone know how to set 75hz refresh rate for 800x600 resolution only. (xorg 7.1, beryl installed, edgy)
[03:08] <MattJ> It hasn't worked all day, was fine yesterday
[03:08] <Dabian> holycow : I hate proprietary secret hardware.
[03:08] <frogzoo> MattJ: maybe you have a mute set
[03:08] <mrbrdo> Camo`_` is it using still aiglx or already without it? i heard that was a new possibility, without xgl or aiglx
[03:08] <holycow> Dabian, i switched to intel chipsets recently, as much as i hate intel and want to support the underdog i'm tired of dealing with weird chipset issues
[03:08] <MattJ> It seems there is no device...
[03:08] <Dabian> holycow : But no other chipset performed like this one when I bought it.
[03:08] <zepeuga> in sticky notes my notes close to sticky and don't stay in desktop...anyone has the same problem ?
[03:08] <MattJ> Mixer settings are blank
[03:08] <Camo`_`> um i have no idea about that
[03:08] <Camo`_`> i think i have xgl tho
[03:08] <MattJ> and amixer says "Device not found" or something
[03:08] <calvarez> mrbrdo, yes, besides AIGLX and XGL there is a special NVIDIA configuration
[03:08] <shatrat> holycow, nothing wrong with intel, they have more than a few people working on the linux kernel iirc
[03:08] <chris_> to me personally. Gnome seems to give you the bare essentials and add on if you wish. Default wise I'd say gnome seems to cater more to those who want to be functional but add their own stuff as they see fit. KDE seems to throw everything at you whether you want it or not. Atleast it defaults that way
[03:08] <frogzoo> Dabian: sounds like you want the HorizSync + VertRefresh options in your xorg.conf
[03:08] <calvarez> for GeForce FX cards and up
[03:09] <frogzoo> !fixres | Dabian
[03:09] <ubotu> Dabian: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:09] <Camo`_`> the auto updater in my kubuntu keeps saying i have 32 updates but the Requested Operation says "no change" for all of them but they are upgradable so when I click apply updates, it doesn't do anything since it's "no change" what is going on??
[03:09] <mrbrdo> well i have a supported card
[03:09] <mrbrdo> the problem is, as i'm looking at this guide, it's using the same repo that screwed my X up
[03:09] <HymnToLife> chris_, no, it doesn't
[03:09] <Dabian> holycow : Does intel chipset support real 16x pci-e in SLi mode?
[03:09] <calvarez> chris_, if you want barebone essentials, then there are other desktop environments that are way lighter than GNOME
[03:09] <mrbrdo> is that repo updated for sure for amd64, the .11 kernel?
[03:09] <audimage> can anybody help me recover my ubuntu partition? When I try to recover grub, it reports Error: 22 No such partition
[03:10] <holycow> Dabian, not sure, i haven't required those features yet
[03:10] <dacks_> the horiz and vert synch are correct, its doing 85hz by default
[03:10] <dacks_> but i need 75
[03:10] <frogzoo> !appdb | sable
[03:10] <ubotu> sable: Appdb is a database of apps & help for programs that run under wine: see http://appdb.winehq.org
[03:10] <chris_> I never said barebone :P barebone is non-functional (IE a barebone computer) I said it gives you enough of what you need to be functional
[03:10] <HymnToLife> audimage, a mistake in your menu.lst, most likely
[03:10] <shatrat> mrbrdo, there are still problems with that repo though, the maintainer said he'd be fixing them in the next day or two, but you migth want to use the manual install method that is mentioned if you dont want to wait.  I install manually, its not that big a deal
[03:10] <calvarez> I just like GNOME for it's elegance, simplicity and feature list. KDE is good too, it allows for extra configurability but it gets kindof crowded IMO
[03:10] <Dabian> holycow : I wanted my machine to be "game ready" ... I want to code free 3D games. :)
[03:10] <chris_> yah thats what I think
[03:10] <shatrat> mrbrdo, you might want to direct any other questions to #ubuntu-effects  and youll probably get better responses
[03:10] <dacks_> in the gnome panel the only option is 85 hz
[03:10] <MattJ> $ amixer
[03:10] <MattJ> amixer: Mixer attach default error: No such device
[03:10] <chris_> a lot of stuff going on.
[03:10] <dacks_> ive tried generating different modelines in xorg.conf
[03:10] <mrbrdo> shatrat oh, just install from nvidia.com then? i'll try it
[03:10] <dacks_> but its not allowing me to use 75hz
[03:11] <shatrat> mrbrdo, well, follow the guide, there are dependencies and stuff to be met
[03:11] <calvarez> and most KDE distros tend to replace KDE configuration with their own stuff, so the point of KDE configurability gets kind of lost
[03:11] <holycow> Dabian, your way too ready. nothing will really use that for games for quite a while.   you will be coding for old hardware for a long time
[03:11] <audimage> hymntolife how would i go about fixing that
[03:11] <zepeuga> in sticky notes my notes close to sticky tray and don't stay in desktop...anyone has the same problem ?
[03:11] <holycow> Dabian, although, it does sound fun :)
[03:11] <Dabian> holycow :)
[03:11] <Camo`_`> the auto updater in my kubuntu keeps saying i have 32 updates but the Requested Operation says "no change" for all of them but they are upgradable so when I click apply updates, it doesn't do anything since it's "no change" what is going on?? they are mostly python updates
[03:11] <shatrat> zepeuga, I thought thats how it was supposed to be.  I dont want to see em all the time.
[03:11] <HymnToLife> audimage, opening it in your favourite text editor and fixing the partitions numbers, since it obviously has wrong ones
[03:11] <frogzoo> dacks_: sounds like you want the HorizSync + VertRefresh options in your xorg.conf
[03:11] <Dabian> holycow : I bought my computer june 2006.
[03:11] <calvarez> holycow, I challenge that statement
[03:12] <dacks_> frogzoo, i have configured them already
[03:12] <dacks_> to factory ranges
[03:12] <zepeuga> shatrat: hmm i thougt they would STICK in desktop
[03:12] <holycow> calvarez, okay :)
[03:12] <mrbrdo> brb
[03:12] <calvarez> holycow, I think a super-pimped-out computer can be excellent for gaming even at this time
[03:12] <chris_> Anyway, back to my previous request. $5 for this emblem fix :)
[03:12] <dacks_> how do i set xorg to use 75hz specifically for 800x600
[03:12] <zepeuga> zepeuga: theres any app that sticks in desktop ?
[03:12] <dacks_> modeline correct?
[03:12] <zepeuga> shatrat
[03:12] <shatrat> zepeuga, perhaps there is a setting for that in the preferences?
[03:12] <calvarez> Dabian, just 3 words: Unreal Tournament 3
[03:12] <calvarez> ;)
[03:12] <Dabian> :)
[03:12] <zepeuga> shatrat: there isnt
[03:12] <Camo`_`> the auto updater in my kubuntu keeps saying i have 32 updates but the Requested Operation says "no change" for all of them but they are upgradable so when I click apply updates, it doesn't do anything since it's "no change" what is going on?? they are mostly python updates plz help!!
[03:12] <frogzoo> dacks_: if it's an option, remove all the other modelines
[03:12] <mrbrdo> anyway, does this open for you guys http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_1.0-9746.html ? i just get a blank page
[03:13] <dacks_> frogzoo, i have remove all of them
[03:13] <calvarez> mrbrdo, it opens
[03:13] <dacks_> frogzoo, it still defaults to 85hz
[03:13] <shatrat> zepeuga, maybe you should try tomboy?  I havent used it but i think its similiar and myabe can do what you want?
[03:13] <Dabian> calvarez : I play PlaneShift .. it seems to demand something already ... at least my fan is going crazy if it starts snowing or stuff like that.
[03:13] <calvarez> yea, Planeshift is demanding
[03:13] <mrbrdo> calvarez: and you see what?
[03:13] <calvarez> mrbrdo, the page :)
[03:13] <mrbrdo> i just get a blank page
[03:13] <dacks_> calvarez, planeshift rocks!
[03:13] <calvarez> the driver download page
[03:14] <mrbrdo> what the hell :/
[03:14] <mrbrdo> it doesn't even open on my windows box
[03:14] <calvarez> mrbrdo, suggestion: don't download the driver from there
[03:14] <dacks_> windoze
[03:14] <mrbrdo> calvarez: because?
[03:14] <Dabian> calvarez : I guess I need a better CPU .. I only have a 4200+  (dual core 2.2GHz AMD64)
[03:14] <calvarez> mrbrdo, there is a package with that driver
[03:14] <zepeuga> shatrat: its visually stupid and BIG ;) but yes, it sticks to desktop because it stays open in taskbar :D
[03:14] <mrbrdo> calvarez: it's broken for amd64
[03:14] <calvarez> mrbrdo, you need to enable the right repository
[03:14] <shatrat> calvarez, the package isnt working right now
[03:14] <calvarez> oh
[03:14] <calvarez> ok, I didn't know that
[03:14] <mrbrdo> calvarez: i just tried it, and X wouldn't start anymore
[03:14] <frogzoo> dacks_: xvidtune maybe
[03:14] <calvarez> I see
[03:14] <mrbrdo> calvarez: something with mismatch in module versions
[03:15] <mrbrdo> calvarez: could you give me the direct download link? i can't open the damn page :/
[03:15] <shatrat> mrbrdo, try this "wget http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/1.0-9746/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9746-pkg2.run" in a terminal
[03:15] <calvarez> Dabian, Nexuiz is demanding too
[03:15] <dacks_> frogzoo, what would i have to modift to get 75hz
[03:15] <mrbrdo> ah, thanks :)
[03:15] <Dabian> calvarez : Been a while since I tried that one.
[03:15] <calvarez> dacks, you want to modify your Xorg configuration file
[03:15] <frogzoo> dacks_: dunno, but xvidtune should be able to let you tweak your modelin
[03:15] <mrbrdo> shatrat: works.
[03:15] <zyth> Dabian, you don't need a better cpu for planeshift, I have a 2.8g p4 and it runs fine
[03:15] <calvarez> dacks, it's /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:16] <atomiku-linux> What can I get so I can share the files that are on my windows box to my linux box? I was thinking FTP but I wanna have the files from the windows box like theyre actually on the linux box without transfering them over.
[03:16] <Dabian> zyth : Which gfx card?
[03:16] <calvarez> dacks, WARNING: make sure you read the appropriate documentation or you may fry your monitor
[03:16] <calvarez> dacks, consider yourself warned
[03:16] <zyth> Dabian, radeon 9600 128mb
[03:16] <Dabian> dacks_ : Esp. if the monitor is not young.
[03:16] <Dabian> zyth : ATI is better than nvidia for PS?
[03:17] <calvarez> meh
[03:17] <calvarez> ATI = no good :p
[03:17] <zyth> ati isnt better in linux
[03:17] <zyth> I just have a crap card
[03:17] <zyth> lol
[03:17] <calvarez> for anything in linux, really
[03:17] <Dabian> zyth : How do you cope with snow, and the stuff in BD?
[03:17] <zyth> Dabian, runs fine
[03:17] <zyth> gonna get an nvidia soon though
[03:17] <Dabian> zyth : No black spots on the bd-road?
[03:18] <chris_> would possibly making my emblems smaller fix this problem?
[03:18] <calvarez> ok, I gtg
[03:18] <calvarez> good luck everyone
[03:18] <Dabian> calvarez : You 2!
[03:18] <zyth> Dabian, not that I've noticed, no
[03:19] <Dabian> zyth : Remarkable ... maybe I really need to set up my ram timing in the BIOS.
[03:19] <philip> firefox crashes a lot in feisty
[03:20] <Weems> why am I unable to install libc6? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5666/
[03:20] <Camo`_`> what is after edgy and when is it gonna be released?
[03:20] <Biovore> philip: and thats why feisty is a RC :-P
[03:20] <Weems> feisty
[03:20] <exs> i've installed a windows program under wine, where does wine store c;/program files/*program name* in my ubuntu partition?
[03:20] <philip> in your home's .wine
[03:20] <Camo`_`> ~/.wine/drive_c
[03:21] <exs> thanks
[03:21] <Dabian> zyth: At times I get low framerates, and the fan goes wild ..
[03:21] <Camo`_`> nice name dude
[03:21] <zyth> Dabian, that doesnt' sound healthy
[03:21] <Camo`_`> the auto updater in my kubuntu keeps saying i have 32 updates but the Requested Operation says "no change" for all of them but they are upgradable so when I click apply updates, it doesn't do anything since it's "no change" what is going on?? they are mostly python updates plz help!!
[03:21] <ubuntu_noob> :^) well its sorta tru
[03:21] <Camo`_`> :^)
[03:22] <ubuntu_noob> i cant figure out why repairing package fails
[03:22] <ubuntu_noob> shouldn't repair fix the stuff?
[03:22] <Dabian> zyth: Well .. in XPlane my card is saying like that all the time .. the software keeps the frame rate up there though.
[03:22] <audimage> hymntolife is there any way i can just completely reinstall grub from scratch?
[03:22] <HymnToLife> !grub | audimage
[03:22] <ubotu> audimage: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:22] <audimage> nothing i try seems to be working
[03:22] <HymnToLife> audimage, first link
[03:23] <ubuntu_noob> i broke my libgl1-mesa-glx package so i tried using the repair thing
[03:23] <cypherdelic> http://www.ubuntu-forum.de/thread.php?threadid=17047
[03:23] <shatrat> audimage, did you try sudo grub-install?
[03:23] <ubuntu_noob> it keeps saying
[03:23] <ubuntu_noob>  dpkg-reconfigure libgl1-mesa-glx
[03:23] <ubuntu_noob> ldconfig: /usr/lib/libGLw.so.1 is not a symbolic link
[03:23] <Camo`_`> I have both windows and ubunto on my machine. I want to resize my windows partition to make it smaller and resize my ubuntu to make it bigger. is this possible??
[03:24] <holycow> Camo`_`, sure, but try to use partition magic for windows ... hard to guarantee results for ntfs resize with open source tools
[03:24] <Camo`_`> oh ok thanks
[03:24] <ubuntu_noob> anybody know how to override this or something?
[03:24] <MasterZen> there we go :D
[03:24] <MasterZen> Im in!!
[03:24] <Camo`_`> well i did my partitiong with QTParted and i have ntfs for my windows partition
[03:24] <MasterZen> Lmfao
[03:24] <Dabian> help.ubuntu.com down?
[03:24] <ubuntu_noob> i was gonna try an uninstall / install but the uninstall didn't like all the broken dependencies
[03:24] <ubuntu_noob> *-)
[03:24] <Sreyom_Ekim> Hey is there a way to have ubuntu boot the contents of the cd bay before the hard disk? Because I need to run the ubuntu live cd to reinstall ubuntu
[03:24] <Camo`_`> i think u do that in ur bios
[03:25] <Sreyom_Ekim> Or a command I can execute in a terminal
[03:25] <Sreyom_Ekim> I already have it changed in bios
[03:25] <holycow> Camo`_`, its not the partition stuff you haveto worry about, its the allocation of the ntfs bits ... you want that done properly on a resize, especially if you want to be sure to keep your windows data corruption free
[03:25] <Dabian> Sreyom_Ekim : I think you can ask grub to do that.  However, the default way would be to convince your BIOS, though.
[03:25] <Sreyom_Ekim> but that does not seem to effect it Camo`_`
[03:25] <Sreyom_Ekim> Dabian:How would I do that from the terminal?
[03:25] <H4T> I have a dual monitor setup with an AGP card and a PCI card...when I went into the Device Manager, it does not even show both my cards there and will only display on one monitor (both are NVidia cards) What can I do?
[03:26] <Dabian> Sreyom_Ekim : I wouldn't do it in terminal, I would do it using the bios util of your bios.
[03:26] <Sreyom_Ekim> Dabian: I already set up in bios for the cd to load first but grub is semming to ignore it
[03:26] <MasterZen> question I have a dvd in my cd drive how do i watch it I've installed codecs
[03:27] <Dabian> Sreyom_Ekim : Grub shouldn't get into play in this case.  Not grub from the HD anyway.
[03:27] <Dabian> Sreyom_Ekim : Have you a broken CD?
[03:28] <Sreyom_Ekim> Dabian: I don't think so
[03:28] <chris_> try hitting like F12 on bootup
[03:28] <MasterZen> anyone
[03:28] <MasterZen> how do i watch it
[03:28] <Sreyom_Ekim> ok
[03:28] <chris_> some bios will give you a boot selector when you hit F12
[03:28] <chris_> no guarantees though
[03:28] <audimage> when i try to install grub i get this message
[03:28] <audimage> The file /mnt/root/boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[03:29] <MasterZen> Now Listening to pink floyd - Wish you where here.mp3
[03:29] <ubuntu_noob> anybody? :<
[03:29] <MasterZen> Still wondering why I can't watch my movie
[03:29] <_goofy_> whats to command to get an output wth glxgears
[03:29] <shatrat> MasterZen, to watch a dvd you need libdvdcss
[03:30] <H4T> still have no idea how to help MZ, I'd imagine I'm not alone
[03:30] <Dabian> chris_: Thanks .. I asserted that he could read. :)
[03:30] <shatrat> MasterZen, msg ubotu dvd or restricted or something and it will pm you the link
[03:30] <bulmer> audimage: you boot from a liveCD?
[03:30] <newtux> fg
[03:30] <chris_> well what I meant was not to literally change the boot order in the bios
[03:31] <H4T> I've got two vid cards (and two monitors)...do I need to manually install those drivers? Ubuntu only detected one and won't let me use the other
[03:31] <mrbrdo> hey again
[03:31] <Sreyom_Ekim> it has the green loading on the live cd and it is staying like that
[03:32] <mrbrdo> beryl is up now, but beryl manager won't start.. at least i can't see anything.. is the manager for GNOME only?
[03:32] <mrbrdo> nvm now it started :)
[03:32] <MasterZen> shatrat
[03:32] <MasterZen> do you mean gxine?
[03:32] <_goofy_> how do i get an out put for glxgears
[03:32] <Sreyom_Ekim> Dabian/chris: that was towards you guys
[03:32] <kitche> _goofy_: output for what
[03:33] <Dabian> Sreyom_Ekim : Thanks.
[03:33] <chris_> are you giving it enough time before you give up?
[03:33] <_goofy_> im looking for a frame out put
[03:33] <Sreyom_Ekim> yah
[03:33] <_goofy_> frme rate**
[03:33] <kitche> _goofy_: glxgears -printfps
[03:33] <Dabian> chris_: Do you work with support RL?
[03:33] <Sreyom_Ekim> usuall it goes loading... and now it is just freezing at loading
[03:34] <mrbrdo> how do you add something to session startup in Kubuntu? like in system-preferences-session for ubuntu?
[03:34] <_goofy_> i dont know why i cant ever remember....thanks
[03:34] <Biovore> mrbrdo: start when you log in?
[03:34] <mrbrdo> yep
[03:34] <chris_> What Dabian?
[03:34] <Biovore> mrbrdo: place a symlink in ~/.Autostart
[03:35] <mrbrdo> aha so no GUI way in KDE
[03:35] <mrbrdo> okay
[03:35] <MasterZen> alright so I have my dvd in my player and gxine how do i start this baby up
[03:35] <Sreyom_Ekim> chris_:yah it is deffintetly freezing
[03:35] <mrbrdo> one more thing, how can i confirm my kernel is amd64 and not i386?
[03:35] <H4T> I've got two vid cards (and two monitors)...do I need to manually install those drivers? Ubuntu only detected one and won't let me use the other
[03:35] <mrbrdo> uname -r just says generic
[03:35] <Biovore> mrbrdo: sorry.. I mean ~/.kde/Autostart
[03:35] <chavo> mrbrdo, there's an app on kde-apps.org that will do it, but nothing in the repos yet
[03:35] <mackinac> generic IS the kernel
[03:36] <mrbrdo> chavo: i see
[03:36] <mrbrdo> mackinac: but how can i find out if it's 64bit?
[03:36] <Dabian> chris_: You seem very adjusted to the level of an avarage customer.
[03:37] <Dabian> The Zen Master was stroken by impatience(!)
[03:37] <MasterZen> common
[03:37] <MasterZen> lol
[03:37] <MasterZen> I got the dvd in and gxine
[03:37] <MasterZen> how do i start this baby up
[03:37] <chris_> What do you mean Dabian. Sorry for for the misunderstanding but it's the net. I am not entirely getting what you're trying to say.
[03:37] <mrbrdo> okay time to try if it works, brb
[03:38] <Dabian> chris_: I am guessing that you work with support?
[03:38] <MasterZen> sinces hes done help me !  No :P
[03:39] <UntouchableMX> need help, Im installing MySQL and dont know what to do next
[03:40] <chris_> I deal with customers on a day to day bases though. I am a General Manager of a food establishment :P
[03:40] <chris_> basis even.
[03:40] <MasterZen> gotta love denies eh chris
[03:40] <chris_> :P
[03:40] <MasterZen> am i right? do you own a dennies
[03:40] <BlueEagle> untouchablemx: If you're not sure what to do next I suggest you google for: securing mysql server
[03:40] <Dabian> chris_ :)
[03:40] <chris_> I eat there occasionally
[03:41] <chris_> No, I run a Little Caesars
[03:41] <Dabian> chris_ : I guess customers stay customers ... I can even see myself turn into one at times.
[03:41] <UntouchableMX> Well I did the get-apt and it just say Configurating mysql-server
[03:41] <ubuntu_noob> i cant figure out why repairing package fails, i broke my libgl1-mesa-glx package so i tried using the repair thing, it keeps saying dpkg-reconfigure libgl1-mesa-glxldconfig: /usr/lib/libGLw.so.1 is not a symbolic link
[03:41] <MasterZen> so why wont anyone help me >,<!!!!
[03:41] <MasterZen> >,<"
[03:41] <ubuntu_noob> help? (unsure)
[03:41] <MasterZen> >,<'
[03:41] <Dabian> MasterZen : Have you eaten?
[03:41] <quaal> hey does anyone here use azureus
[03:42] <Flannel> MasterZen: becuase you haven't asked a question?
[03:42] <MasterZen> I have asked :P
[03:42] <UntouchableMX> so what should I do next???
[03:42] <MasterZen> how do i get my dvd to play i have gxine 0.5.7 installed and the dvd in the drive
[03:42] <chris_> I am actually pretty new to Ubuntu. Linux in general actually.
[03:42] <Flannel> !libdvdcss | MasterZen
[03:42] <MasterZen> and actualy no I havnt eaten
[03:42] <ubotu> MasterZen: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:42] <chris_> I tried Ubuntu back when it was Hoary Hedgehog
[03:42] <chris_> I just recently am giving it another shot with Feisty Fawn
[03:42] <ubuntu_noob> thanks for the story chris
[03:42] <mrbrdo> hm well putting beryl-manager in .kde/Autostart didn't work so good, it starts only 10 seconds after everything is already started (all window decorations disappear for a few seconds then)
[03:43] <ubuntu_noob> :^)
[03:43] <chris_> no problem :P
[03:43] <Flannel> chris_: you might want to try edgy, not feisty, as feisty is still alpha software
[03:43] <UntouchableMX> any body thats willing to help a n00b
[03:43] <chris_> Well it's definately not a mission critical system :P so I don't care about dealing with the risks really.
[03:43] <H4T> Ubuntu only detects one of my two vid cards; my PCI card. My AGP card is my primary, and it won't show up, how do I install my AGP card?
[03:43] <chris_> My important information is on my external drive :P
[03:43] <MasterZen> screw it ima just watch the shawshank redemptions for the like 80th time no joke
[03:43] <ubuntu_noob> cu
[03:43] <mrbrdo> And, what can i use instead of gnome-screenshot on Kubuntu, or can i use that?
[03:43] <Flannel> chris_: not risks, just the fact that it's day-to-day as to whether it works
[03:44] <chris_> Working excellent so far. Plus, someone has gotta send in the bugs right?
[03:44] <chris_> :)
[03:44] <bulmer> H4T: i never had to use two monitors, but dont they conflict IRQ wise if you have two of them?
[03:44] <Flannel> chris_: sounds good, as long as you know it's alpha ;)  #ubuntu+1 for feisty support
[03:44] <H4T> no, I'm talking to you now from my Windows partition....both monitors work great here
[03:44] <calamari> anyone know of a good Ubuntu or Linux book?  I'm looking for something that covers command line AND gui.. foor example, cover synaptic, but also apt-get, dpkg, /etc/apt/sources/list.. /etc/init.d, /etc/rc, user management, adding a font, etc etc.. basically the whole os, not jkust gui not just console
[03:44] <chris_> My only gripe so far is the emblem issue but it is affecting other releases as well
[03:45] <chris_> Not specific to the release anyway I suppose but I figure more people would be able to assist here.
[03:45] <chris_> Want to earn $5 Flannel?
[03:45] <chris_> :P
[03:45] <UntouchableMX> some one knows what to do when you install using sudo apt-get
[03:45] <Madpilot> calamari, check out the Official Ubuntu Book
[03:45] <bulmer> H4T can you check if they are using same IRQ just out of curiosity
[03:45] <defragmeout> hello
[03:46] <H4T> sure can, is that in the BIOS?
[03:46] <Flannel> UntouchableMX: what's your question?
[03:46] <Madpilot> calamari, (giant Amazon URL, sorry....) http://www.amazon.com/Official-Ubuntu-Book-Benjamin-Mako/dp/0132435942/sr=8-1/qid=1171421156/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-9795670-9623924?ie=UTF8&s=books
[03:46] <bulmer> H4T perhaps or maybe in devicemanager or somewhere under control panel
[03:46] <Flannel> !lamp | UntouchableMX, instructions here
[03:46] <ubotu> UntouchableMX, instructions here: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[03:46] <H4T> I'll do  a google search
[03:46] <dragonfly7> Is gnome-look down for anyone else?
[03:46] <kitche> dragonfly7: yes their server is down
[03:47] <UntouchableMX> well im installing MySQL-Server, it has extract it self and stop and left this messege, Configurating mysql-server
[03:47] <toddobryan> I have two SATA drives and have given up on FakeRAID. Anybody have a link to a good how-to for setting up RAID using the support built into the kernel?
[03:47] <dragonfly7> kitche: Thanks, I was wondering what's up.
[03:47] <chris_> I guess my problem has already been filed. But, I would be so certain that there would be a temporary workaround and I am just not seeing it anywhere.
[03:47] <toddobryan> I need handholding starting at the partitioner.
[03:47] <chris_> Searched the forums. Usenet, Googled it for hours heh
[03:47] <H4T> bulmer: no, they are on different IRQs
[03:47] <ubuntu_noob> anybody want to help teach a humble noob the ways of ubuntu??
[03:47] <ubuntu_noob> i cant figure out why repairing package fails, i broke my libgl1-mesa-glx package so i tried using the repair thing, it keeps saying dpkg-reconfigure libgl1-mesa-glxldconfig: /usr/lib/libGLw.so.1 is not a symbolic link
[03:47] <Flannel> !raid | toddobryan
[03:47] <ubotu> toddobryan: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[03:47] <bulmer> H4T: okay, thanks for checking
[03:47] <H4T> np
[03:48] <toddobryan> Flannel: Thanks!
[03:48] <H4T> I posted a thread on the forums, so maybe we'll get some hits there
[03:48] <H4T> this IRC thing is insane lol
[03:48] <UntouchableMX> Flannel can I pm you???
[03:48] <Flannel> UntouchableMX: I suppose
[03:48] <ubuntu_noob> THANKS IN ADVANCE
[03:48] <ubuntu> anyone know if i have no audio in ubuntu but i install a windows vm if it will be able to (assuming it has the device drivers) have audio?
[03:49] <calamari> Madpilot: that doesn't appear to handle more advanced topic or command line issues
[03:49] <toddobryan> Flannel: Here's a quote from RaidConfigurationHowTo: This is *NOT* for people with new, blank hdds. For you it is much easier IMHO to set them up using linux software raid, i believe that there is a howto on this forum already for that.
[03:50] <calamari> Madpilot: I'm looking for something in depth, that isn't afraid to get advanced and tell everything it can
[03:50] <toddobryan> Any idea where *that* howto is? I've actually searched the wiki for it to no avail.
[03:50] <KanRiNiN> Is there anyway to install fluxbuntu on my current ubuntu partition w/o upgrading to fiesty?  If I just install fluxbox will I get the same nice tabbed skin it has?
[03:50] <BlueEagle> ubuntu: If ubuntu doesn't know what sound card you have or it's not set up correctly vmware won't know either. Windows sees a "generic sound device" when run in vmware. It does not access the hardware directly.
[03:50] <Madpilot> calamari, Ubuntu-specific or just Linux in general? If Linux in general, check some of the O'Reilly books out - lots of good Linux command line stuff there
[03:51] <Laibsch> I have two devices with wlan and one AP not under my control that offers internet connectivity.  I want both devices to have access to the internet AND I want ssh connection between them.  Connections "device - AP - device" seem to be restricted.  Is there any way I can have both internet and ssh between my two computer (like device aliases or one computer acting as a WLAN extender?  I am not too knowledgeable about this)
[03:51] <ubuntu> BlueEagle: Thanks!
[03:51] <GigaClon> I start up audacity and the fonts look crappy, all aliased and blocky
[03:51] <BlueEagle> ubuntu: It's like a car in a cargo truck won't be able to drive the truck if the truck has broken down. :)
[03:51] <BlueEagle> ubuntu: No problem. :)
[03:52] <Bantroth> yes! My cat is amazing
[03:52] <Weems> does anyone know why i might get an error saying error while processing locales?
[03:52] <BlueEagle> weems: I would assume it's caused by an error that occures while processing locales.
[03:53] <Weems> but I want to know how to fix it
[03:53] <BlueEagle> weems: When does this error message appear?
[03:53] <junmin> hi, somebody can tell me some package that i can use to draw workflow??? thx
[03:53] <Weems> when running apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:53] <tsoler> hello
[03:53] <calamari> Madpilot: for example.. the filesystem structure, what goes where, basic bash scripting, vi, /etc stuff (profile, rc.d, init.d, ...), apt/dpkg/etc, grub, devices/mounting, lspci/mod,dev (etc) modules and devices, Xorg including configuration files, Gnome/XFCE settings
[03:54] <tsoler> got a question here
[03:54] <BlueEagle> weems: are you running in a root environment? (su? sudo -i?)
[03:54] <Weems> yes
[03:54] <DeepB> anyone know the developers of Rosetta??
[03:54] <Weems> root term
[03:54] <BlueEagle> weems: Does it occur only with apt-get or also with other executables?
[03:54] <Weems> no
[03:54] <tsoler> i can not see my files that are in greeks
[03:54] <Weems> well I havent tried to run locales itself
[03:54] <BlueEagle> weems: Have you tried running aptitude dist-upgrade?
[03:54] <bulmer> calamari: power tools.. published by orielly..and just for you to see all the bash commands now.. two tabs in your command line
[03:55] <Nergar> can anyone help me run a perl script as root??
[03:55] <Madpilot> calamari, the Ubuntu book I linked you to goes into the filesystem, gnome/kde settings, and touches on most of the rest, but it really is aimed at desktop users... have a look at the O'Reilly titles - "Linux in a Nutshell" or one of those
[03:55] <BlueEagle> weems: or something other that uses locales like ehh.. vim or such?
[03:55] <Weems> doing that now
[03:55] <tsoler> any workarounds >
[03:55] <frogzoo> junmin: kivio or office drawing - neither are ideal really
[03:55] <mrbrdo> so how would i find out if my kernel is 64bit or not?
[03:55] <tsoler> cannot see filenames in greeks
[03:55] <atomiku-linux> !divx
[03:55] <tsoler> ?
[03:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:55] <Weems> BlueEagle: same thing happened in aptitude dist-upgrade
[03:55] <toddobryan> junmin: check out Dia. It's pretty cool.
[03:56] <BlueEagle> weems: Does it occure when apt-get is starting or while installing some package?
[03:56] <Weems> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5668/
[03:56] <Weems> installing
[03:56] <junmin> toddobryan, thx
[03:56] <emilia> is something wrong with http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[03:56] <BlueEagle> weems: I see. Which package is it attempting to install when you get the error?
[03:56] <tsoler> guys i have an ntfs disk with my files on it.
[03:56] <mrbrdo> Where could i get rid of the KDE tooltip that shows when you hover a window in the taskbar?
[03:56] <emilia> im trying to upgrade to feisty, and i get an error that i cant download anything from http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com
[03:57] <BlueEagle> !feisty
[03:57] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[03:57] <Weems> language-pack-en
[03:57] <tsoler> I can see english filenames but not greek filenames!
[03:57] <tsoler> any help here?
[03:58] <calamari> bulmer: thanks.. I'm having trouble finding the book.. is the title "power tools"?  I found UNIX power tools, but I'm looking for something about Linux
[03:58] <Nergar> can anyone help me run a perl script as root please??
[03:58] <toddobryan> Anybody have a really good howto for setting up software RAID that's supported in the kernel?
[03:58] <Flannel> emilia: I believe development releases (feisty) are only on the main ubuntu server
[03:58] <zathras_laptop> anyone familiar with installs around?
[03:58] <toddobryan> Best I can tell, the most recent Wiki article was last updated around Hoary?
[03:58] <BlueEagle> tsoler: You have probably set the wrong codepage when mounting the partition. `man mount` on the command line should bring up the manual for mount.
[03:58] <emilia> Flannel : i tried gksu update-manager -d, and it auto choses that one? can i change it?
[03:58] <Weems> BlueEagle: heres the complete aptitude dist-upgrade process
[03:58] <Weems> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5670/
[03:59] <Weems> ^^ there **
[03:59] <Flannel> emilia: Ask in #ubuntu+1, they'll know more
[03:59] <BlueEagle> weems: Are you upgrading to feisty since you're running dist-upgrade?
[03:59] <asdf_> I want to run a kernel later than 2.6.17
[03:59] <asdf_> how do I do that?
[03:59] <asdf_> (running ubuntu)
[03:59] <Weems> no
[03:59] <asdf_> want to do this with as little work as possible
[03:59] <asdf_> perferably an apt-get install
[03:59] <Weems> trying to upgrade from hoary
[03:59] <Weems> to breezy
[03:59] <Weems> and then to edgy
[03:59] <tsoler> Blueeagle: i have mount the disks with a script
[04:00] <Flannel> Weems: You have to go breezy to dapper to edgy
[04:00] <Nergar> please anyone?
[04:00] <BlueEagle> tsoler: Why do you have to mount the disks with a script?
[04:00] <tsoler> cause i am a novice
[04:00] <tsoler> :-/
[04:00] <Flannel> Weems: you might be better off just downloading edgy and reinstalling.  Or you'll be downloading about 1.5GB of stuff you don't really have to
[04:01] <BlueEagle> tsoler: Well I agree with you that the manual is a tad overwheming. Try the link ubotu sends you.
[04:01] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell tsoler about ntfs
[04:01] <Flannel> asdf_: compile it yourself, or upgrade to feisty
[04:01] <Weems> is there a smaller or network install cd?
[04:01] <Flannel> Weems: minimal iso, sure.
[04:01] <Flannel> !minimal | Weems
[04:01] <ubotu> Weems: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[04:01] <BlueEagle> weems: I am not familiar with upgrades and errors resulting from such processes so I am unable to help you any further.
[04:02] <tsoler> !ntfs
[04:02] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:02] <BlueEagle> weems: Atleast you kan now formulate the problem. :)
[04:02] <pfein_> any evdo users?
[04:02] <mackinac> mrbrdo, uname -a
[04:02] <spaceb3ar> 3ddeskd: Please configure hardware acceleration.  Exiting. <--------- where do i configure that
[04:02] <spaceb3ar> ?
[04:02] <pfein_> er, EVDO / usbserial ?
[04:02] <atomiku-linux> hmm
[04:02] <tsoler> ok i ll have a look here
[04:02] <atomiku-linux> divx doesnt seem to be working
[04:02] <trollboy> I just changed my hostname, and was gunna set up bind so that that host resolves, but now, sudo complains about gethostname() whenever I try to do anything
[04:02] <trollboy> trollboy@shoggoth:~/Desktop$ sudo updatedb
[04:02] <trollboy> sudo: unable to lookup shoggoth.local via gethostbyname()
[04:02] <Nergar> how do i mount a ext3 partition?
[04:02] <trollboy> I can't even change it back
[04:03] <atomiku-linux> I ran install.sh but it doesnt seem to have installed
[04:03] <Biovore> Nergar: in liunx I assume?
[04:03] <DARKGuy> Good evening/night o.o; I have a question: If I have a valid floppy image file (.IMA), how can I write it to a floppy disk using dd?
[04:03] <Flannel> !hostname | trollboy
[04:03] <ubotu> trollboy: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[04:03] <BlueEagle> spaceb3ar: Did you look for /etc/3ddesk ?
[04:03] <Nergar> yes bionoid
[04:03] <spaceb3ar> ill see
[04:03] <Nergar> yes Biovore
[04:03] <Flannel> trollboy: make sure both those places are changed
[04:03] <BlueEagle> spaceb3ar: That's just a guess for what the config file or directory would be called. Also please read the manual.
[04:04] <Biovore> Nergar: there are a few ways to do this..  you want a perminate mount or a temp?
[04:04] <Weems> thanks BlueEagle
[04:04] <Nergar> perm, i have edgy and feisty in the same comp
[04:04] <Weems> I think im just gonna go the mini cd route
[04:04] <spaceb3ar> found it.. but no way to make ubuntu probe for my hardware acceleration. i have to set it in the conf myself?
[04:04] <frogzoo> DARKGuy: dd if=blah.ima of=/dev/fd0
[04:05] <Biovore> Nergar: ok what the device of the drive you want to mount (/dev/hdb3 or something)?
[04:05] <trollboy> Flannel: I can't sudo to edit those files
[04:05] <trollboy> and networking is dieing
[04:05] <zathras_laptop> can i use a usb hdd to install ubuntu onto an internal hdd?
[04:05] <Nergar>  /dev/sda3 on /sda2
[04:05] <ubuntu_noob> thanks for all the help guys
[04:05] <ubuntu_noob> i figured it out
[04:05] <Flannel> trollboy: correct.  You'll need to reboot to the recovery console (at the grub menu) to edit them
[04:05] <DARKGuy> frogzoo: thanks a lot :)
[04:06] <trollboy> even after just using hostname?
[04:06] <trollboy> i didn't edit the files originally
[04:06] <Flannel> trollboy: er, you're tempoarily changing your hostname? or what?
[04:06] <Biovore> Nergar: ok where you want it to be mounted to?
[04:06] <trollboy> I was testing
[04:06] <trollboy> setting up internal dns
[04:06] <Nergar> Biovore, media/sda3
[04:06] <Flannel> trollboy: rebooting will reset it
[04:06] <trollboy> crap
[04:07] <trollboy> was hoping not to reboot
[04:07] <BlueEagle> weems: np
[04:07] <trollboy> oh well
[04:07] <trollboy> ttyl
[04:07] <Biovore> Nergar: for now you can do a mount /dev/sda3 /media/sda3
[04:07] <justdave> anyone good with troubleshooting ethernet?  I have no idea what chipset the onboard ethernet on this motherboard is, and Ubuntu Dapper doesn't seem to know it exists.  Don't know if it's missing a driver or what, but it's hard to fix if I can't get it on the net :)
[04:07] <Biovore> Nergar: but to make it do it on boot you may want to add the following line to /etc/fstab (in next comm)
[04:07] <Nergar> ok
[04:08] <Nergar> i want it to be permanent
[04:08] <bushblows> justdave: is it a 10/100 NIC
[04:08] <bushblows> or is it higher then 10/100
[04:08] <Biovore> Nergar: /dev/sda3 /media/sda3 ext3 rw 0 0
[04:08] <justdave> bushblows: yeah, it's a 10/100
[04:08] <Biovore> throw that at the end of /etc/fstab
[04:08] <danieleboyo> hello there
[04:08] <herold> what command will tell me what version of Ubuntu I am useing?
[04:09] <bushblows> well ubuntu should recognize it
[04:09] <bushblows> it might just need configured
[04:09] <bushblows> have you looked at /etc/network/interfaces
[04:09] <danieleboyo> would anyone be able to help me with some live cd problems? (my screen has a bunch of horizontal and vertical bars instead of the GUI)
[04:09] <DARKGuy> justdave: I can't help you much with the ethernet, but maybe you could use "lspci" in a terminal to see if it exists and the info you can get (usually you can get the model and other useful stuff to identify it)
[04:09] <British_Intel> heya ppl
[04:09] <justdave> yeah, there's nothing listed in lspci that says ethernet except for the wifi card that's in one of the slots
[04:10] <Biovore> British_Intel: stop collecting info on me :-P
[04:10] <bushblows> well justdave you said it is onboard right
[04:10] <British_Intel> can some1 tell me how to mount a usb hard disk with write permissions using livecd
[04:10] <justdave> but the wifi doesn't work either because my wifi is WPA, and the wpa_supplicant on here is apparently too old (or network-manager is, one or the other)
[04:10] <British_Intel> lol
[04:10] <Biovore> British_Intel: is it ntfs formated disk?
[04:10] <justdave> yeah, the wired ethernet is what I'm trying to get working
[04:10] <British_Intel> yeah
[04:10] <Biovore> British_Intel: then nope.. you can't...
[04:10] <danieleboyo> would anyone be able to help me with some live cd problems? (my screen has a bunch of horizontal and vertical bars instead of the GUI)
[04:10] <British_Intel> :S y not ?
[04:10] <justdave> the port lights up when I plug a cable into it, so it at least has power :)
[04:10] <bushblows> what does your /etc/network/interface look like
[04:11] <Biovore> British_Intel: write suppot in linux for ntfs sucks.. thus disabled by default..
[04:11] <bushblows> and dont paste it in the channel, pastebin
[04:11] <Weems> BlueEagle: I cant burn the cd now... because of this broken locales issue.....
[04:11] <British_Intel> i need to copy files from 1 usb hdd to another
[04:11] <Weems> I cant install k3b or xcdroast
[04:11] <British_Intel> is there no way to do it :S
[04:11] <danieleboyo> has anyone had really bad graphics when loading the live cd?
[04:11] <chris_> dunno about live I was reading something about ntfs-3g or something on the forums though.
[04:12] <BlueEagle> weems: Then the only option that I can see is to get someone else to burn it for you. :(
[04:12] <Nergar> Biovore, how do i edit fstab?? i tried sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[04:12] <justdave> there's an entry for lo and an entry for wlan0 and that's it
[04:12] <herold> How can I tell what version I am running ?
[04:12] <Flannel> herold: lsb_release -a
[04:12] <herold> Thanks
[04:12] <Nergar> never mind Biovore
[04:12] <BlueEagle> weems: Lesson being that it pais to have a live-cd handy. Especially when upgrading. :)
[04:12] <fenris> hi
[04:12] <justdave> the wlan0 one has an essid and key in it from my attempt to get the wifi working
[04:13] <bushblows> just dave i dont know if this will work or not but try adding this to your /etc/network/interfaces
[04:13] <British_Intel> i need to copy /media/usbdisk/folder1/folder2/folder3 to /media/usbdisk1/folder - is htere no way to do it
[04:13] <tsoler> BlueEagle: fstab would be the solution for this?
[04:13] <bushblows> auto eth0
[04:13] <frogzoo> British_Intel: with both usbs mounted, it's a doddle
[04:13] <bushblows> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[04:13] <Nergar> Biovore, how do i save???
[04:13] <Nergar> :P
[04:13] <danieleboyo> could someone please help me!
[04:13] <Biovore> Nergar: you have to be root to edit that file and save to it..
[04:14] <justdave> SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
[04:14] <frogzoo> British_Intel: cp -r /media/usbdisk/folder1/folder2/folder3 /media/usbdisk1/folder
[04:14] <British_Intel> ooo ty
[04:14] <Biovore> Nergar: if your using the gui run gtsudo gedit (or something like that, I use kde here)
[04:14] <Nergar> i tried sudo nano /etc/fstab but i don't know how to use it  :P
[04:14] <bushblows> justdave: what kind of computer is it
[04:14] <British_Intel> kk brb
[04:14] <fenris> hm, when i am using the ssh -L option together with -g ssh only says "bind: Address already in use"... but i am sure it is not. With my previous debian install the same call worked fine, so whats wrong?
[04:14] <Biovore> Nergar: oh..
[04:14] <roostishaw> Is there a noticeable difference between a 386-NO SMP and a 686-WITH SMP?
[04:14] <justdave> custom-built media PC, the motherboard is a PCChips P23G
[04:14] <leafw> how can I generate a default xorg.conf file for a server install that didn't have Xorg initially?
[04:14] <Nergar> cus gedit didn't work
[04:14] <roostishaw> kernels i mean
[04:14] <Biovore> Nergar: in nano I belive its ALT-W
[04:15] <astronouth7303> I have a Saitek Gamer's keyboard <http://www.saitekusa.com/usa/prod/gamerskey.htm> I'm trying to get to work with X. The keyboard itself works fine, but the command pad is unrecognized. I can get all kinds of technical information on the keyboard (3 devices, /dev/input/event[2,3,4] , etc.)
[04:15] <Nergar> kk thanx
[04:15] <bruenig> !xconfig | leafw
[04:15] <ubotu> leafw: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[04:15] <leafw> installing gdm and xserver-xorg-core didn't generate a xorg.conf
[04:15] <astronouth7303> How do I find how to configure X for this?
[04:15] <Biovore> Nergar: control-o thats it..
[04:15] <leafw> bruenig : I did that, didn't work
[04:15] <BayGuy28> anyone have a URL to an updated sources.list with restricted packages?
[04:15] <Nergar> yes, w is for search
[04:15] <danieleboyo> my gui does not load properly when i load the ubuntu 6.10 live cd, any ideas why not?
[04:15] <frogzoo> !easysource | BayGuy28
[04:15] <Biovore> Nergar: then control-x to exit..
[04:15] <ubotu> BayGuy28: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:15] <leafw> hum I see, xserver-xorg is not installed ... only yhe core
[04:16] <mackinac> danieleboyo, got enough ram ?
[04:16] <danieleboyo> yup
[04:16] <danieleboyo> 1 gig
[04:16] <BayGuy28> thanks!
[04:16] <danieleboyo> mackinac: i also have a 256 mb video card
[04:16] <Nergar> thanx a lot Biovore, it will work next restart?
[04:16] <Biovore> Nergar: yup..
[04:16] <mackinac> out of ideas then ;p
[04:17] <Biovore> Nergar: can work now if you want
[04:17] <danieleboyo> oh
[04:17] <danieleboyo> :'(
[04:17] <bushblows> justdave: ubuntu should recognize your NIC their is nothing special about it that would cause for extra drivers
[04:17] <Biovore> Nergar: sudo mount /media/sda3
[04:17] <danieleboyo> mackinac: anyone you know who could help?
[04:17] <Ztripez> any1 here using lirc under edgy?
[04:17] <mackinac> just let your question linger :)
[04:18] <Nergar> Biovore, /dev/sda3 looks like swapspace - not mounted
[04:18] <danieleboyo> but it gets swept away among the millions of others!
[04:18] <mackinac> such is the nature of #ubuntu :)
[04:18] <Biovore> Nergar: is /dev/sda3 the correct partion? for you linux ext3 filesystem..
[04:18] <danieleboyo> so then do i have to be annoying and keep posting it every so often?
[04:18] <Nergar> let me check but i think it is
[04:19] <Nergar> and sda4 is swap
[04:19] <mackinac> !repeat
[04:19] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:19] <justdave> hmm, suppose I could downgrade my wifi to WEP long enough to apt-get dist-upgrade the thing :)
[04:19] <mackinac> basically yes
[04:19] <Biovore> Nergar: might be /dev/sdb ?
[04:19] <Biovore> Nergar: is this all on the same physical disk?
[04:19] <danieleboyo> hahaha alright :S
[04:19] <Nergar> yes
[04:19] <Biovore> Nergar: how many partions you have?
[04:19] <danieleboyo> my gui does not load properly when i load the ubuntu 6.10 live cd, any ideas why not?
[04:20] <Nergar> 4
[04:20] <Nergar> :P
[04:20] <Biovore> Nergar: all primarys I guess?
[04:20] <Nergar> yes
[04:20] <Biovore> Nergar: well there are only 4 options then...
[04:20] <Biovore> what dose mount say is mounted now?
[04:21] <Nergar> -_-?
[04:21] <Biovore> Nergar: type mount in a shell
[04:21] <Biovore> Nergar: what /dev/sda devices dose it show as mounted.. (process of elimiation)
[04:22] <Biovore> Nergar: should show root mounted to some device and swap as some device..
[04:22] <Nergar> /dev/sda3 looks like swapspace - not mounted
[04:22] <Nergar> my bad
[04:22] <danieleboyo> my gui does not load properly when i load the ubuntu 6.10 live cd, any ideas why not?
[04:23] <Nergar> Biovore, /dev/sda2 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[04:23] <British_Intel> can some1 help me copying files, i want to copy  /media/usbdisk/folder1/folder2/folder3 to /media/usbdisk1/folder - but i get a Read only file system error ?
[04:24] <Biovore> Nergar: wheres swap at?
[04:24] <Biovore> Nergar: can also look in /etc/fstab
[04:24] <Nergar> Biovore, how can i open a partition editor to see my hdd? if i remember correctly sda1 is xp sda2 is edgy sda3 is feisty and sda4 is swap
[04:24] <Biovore> fdisk
[04:24] <Biovore> fdisk /dev/sda
[04:25] <asc_> danieleboyo: You'd be amazed how often that happens.  I usually recommend that people use the alternate install CD so nothing can break until it's actually installed.
[04:25] <danieleboyo> asc_: what is the difference?
[04:25] <British_Intel> can some1 help me copying files, i want to copy  /media/usbdisk/folder1/folder2/folder3 to /media/usbdisk1/folder - but i get a Read only file system error ?
[04:25] <danieleboyo> asc_: ...between alternate and 64 bit?
[04:25] <danieleboyo> i mean, desktop
[04:25] <asc_> danieleboyo: There's no GUI, so the GUI can't break.
[04:26] <Biovore> British_Intel: yes.. because /media/usbdisk1/folder is probably a nfts filesystem.. you can't write to ntfs with stock kernels in ubuntu
[04:26] <Nergar> Biovore, unable to open
[04:26] <asc_> danieleboyo: (it just uses a windows-esque text-mode installer)
[04:26] <Biovore> Nergar: you doing it as root?
[04:26] <herold> danieleboyo: try writeing your CD at a slower speed
[04:26] <Nergar> lol
[04:26] <danieleboyo> asc_: oh...alright! well that sounds fair enough...and i dont think its that, because all of the regular desktop ubuntu cds dont work :(
[04:26] <danieleboyo> asc_: but knoppix worked just fine oddly enough. . .
[04:27] <British_Intel> Biovore, i need to copy those files in linux because in windows the hdd i want to copy from is unreadable, any live cd distro able to do it ?
[04:27] <asc_> danieleboyo: Just out of curiosity... do you have an ATI 3D card?
[04:27] <mrbrdo> how can i find out if my kernel is 64bit?
[04:27] <danieleboyo> asc_: nope, nvidia 6600GT
[04:27] <mackinac> mrbrdo, uname -a
[04:27] <mrbrdo> no
[04:27] <Biovore> British_Intel: knoppix I think will do it.. but writing to NTFS in linux is HIGHLY not recommened.. it will eat your disk!!!
[04:27] <leafw> any known solution for amd64, Xorg crashing on "Could not open default font 'fixed' " ?
[04:27] <mackinac> yes
[04:27] <mrbrdo> it says generic anyway
[04:27] <Nergar> Biovore, The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 9729.
[04:27] <mackinac> you did -a not -r ?
[04:28] <mrbrdo> ah wtf, it's SMP too
[04:28] <Biovore> Nergar: thats nice..  what dose p option in fdisk show (should show the partion table)
[04:28] <mrbrdo> :S
[04:28] <British_Intel> what about if i was to format the destination drive to fat32 ?
[04:28] <asc_> danieleboyo: Huh, funky.  If you can get to a command like, I'd try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg... if you can get the livecd working, you won't have to worry about the install not working.
[04:28] <mrbrdo> mackinac: is there a non SMP version too? O_o
[04:28] <Biovore> British_Intel: that works,. fat32 is well know
[04:28] <asc_> danieleboyo: s/like/line
[04:28] <Nergar> Biovore, -l??
[04:28] <EchoBinary> greetings all :)
[04:28] <Biovore> British_Intel: NTFS isn't supported well because M$ keeps changing it on us..
[04:28] <British_Intel> kk how can i format to fat32 in ubuntu
[04:29] <danieleboyo> asc_: no that i have realized, cuz the insall is nice, but command line from a gui that is just a bunch of yellow horizontal bars?
[04:29] <British_Intel> MS = micrshaft thats y lol
[04:29] <crowley1027> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALDjWJyh_0o
[04:29] <crowley1027> woot
[04:29] <crowley1027> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALDjWJyh_0o
[04:29] <crowley1027> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALDjWJyh_0o
[04:29] <crowley1027> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALDjWJyh_0o
[04:29] <crowley1027> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALDjWJyh_0o
[04:29] <asc_> danieleboyo: try hitting control-alt-F1
[04:29] <Nergar> Biovore, can i pm u??
[04:29] <blablablablano> how do i bring my laptop out of standby
[04:29] <EchoBinary> about to set up xubuntu (edgy) to be a vmware server, had a thought, how will the hard drives interact?   is it reasonable to expect the xubuntu server drive to be able to see the data on the vm drives and vice versa?
[04:29] <Biovore> Nergar: lolz.. I just tryed that on my box and it shows me having 1 freebsd partioon on the box..  I don't have freebsd installed.. I wonder how that happend..   Yes.. pm away..
[04:30] <danieleboyo> asc_: hmm...would the alternate cd work and work with x?
[04:30] <Biovore> Nergar: if pm's work.. kinda funky on freenode.. I havn't figure out whats up with it..
[04:30] <herold> British : I have a fat32  partion that I use to share files between win XP and linux and it works great
[04:30] <asc_> danieleboyo: The alternate cd doesn't try to start X until you boot the computer after installation.
[04:30] <legistrate> can anyone point to a link on how to repartion my harddisk in ubuntu?
[04:30] <EchoBinary> gparted?
[04:30] <British_Intel> how can i formatt my hdd to fat32 in ubuntu tho
[04:31] <danieleboyo> asc_: no i know, do you think X will work when it reboots?
[04:31] <Biovore> British_Intel: I don't know if the live disk has mkfs.vfat on it
[04:31] <sink_> hi!
[04:31] <asc_> danieleboyo: No idea.  But it *is* possible to get it working.
[04:31] <British_Intel> how i find that out lol
[04:32] <danieleboyo> asc_: in live cd you mean? or just otherwise...because im not very good at command lining (i can do the basics...but fixing x i dont know )
[04:33] <herold> British_Intel: I have 4 primary portations ntfs fat32 ext3 and swap
[04:33] <asc_> danieleboyo: Probably both, probably.  I don't have much experience with the livecd, but it should be identical to a default ubuntu install.
[04:33] <British_Intel> ooo
[04:33] <danieleboyo> asc_: hmm...so what should i do?
[04:33] <dragon> hey can anyone tell me why when i do apt-get update i get conection refused for all the sources .... i only just installed this system ...
[04:33] <asc_> danieleboyo: did control-alt-F1 get you to a command line?
[04:34] <danieleboyo> oh
[04:34] <cables> dragon, server down maybe?
[04:34] <danieleboyo> well, this i am on the computer i would be installing it on now :S
[04:34] <EchoBinary> about to set up xubuntu (edgy) to be a vmware server, had a thought, how will the hard drives interact?   is it reasonable to expect the xubuntu server drive to be able to see the data on the vm drives and vice versa?
[04:34] <dragon> every server in mi apt sourses list ...?
[04:34] <AdamBerg> i've got my updates working. i noticed i was able to do them when i was plugged directly into the modem and not the router. however, i have more than one computer and want to use my router. does anyone know why this could be happening
[04:34] <dragon> dosint sound verry likely ...
[04:34] <oggy> erm these are my speakers , im trying to connect them to my phillips hdtv 30" tv what connectors do I use
[04:34] <oggy> http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,CRID=2177,CONTENTID=9486#Specifications
[04:34] <British_Intel> brb
[04:35] <cryosphere> how do I login as root in ubuntu
[04:35] <AdamBerg> sudo -s ?
[04:35] <cryosphere> i dont remember even setting the root password
[04:35] <cryosphere> during the HD installation
[04:35] <herold> British_Intel: the fat32 is the largest I use it for my docs in windows and i am able to access it from Ubuntu
[04:35] <AdamBerg> crysophere: it is sudo -s
[04:35] <cryosphere> Adam: thanks
[04:36] <quaal> hey does anyone here use azureus
[04:36] <cryosphere> also how can I monitor my CPU frequency
[04:36] <shatrat> quaal, I do
[04:36] <asc_> danieleboyo: I've dinner soon.  I'd try the livecd again; if you can get to the command line, do 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'.  Use the 'nv' diver.  Defaults should mostly be okay for the rest of the configuration, except monitor size (use 'simple').
[04:36] <British_Intel> quaal: i use it, whats the problem ?
[04:37] <shatrat> cryosphere, theres something you can add to gnome-panel to display your freq.  just right click and add to panel and look for it
[04:37] <quaal> shatrat would you mind showing me what your azureus install directory looks like? i made the mistake of installing it to /home/username/.azureus where all the config files go
[04:37] <cryosphere> it important (I need to block the top freq step, otherwise I overheat)
[04:37] <cryosphere> ok, is there a command
[04:37] <cryosphere> i used to know it
[04:37] <cryosphere> Im not running gnome
[04:37] <danieleboyo> asc_: alright thanks alot !
[04:38] <danieleboyo> asc_: enjoy your dinner!
[04:38] <asc_> danieleboyo: Hm, and after trying that, so '/etc/init.d/gdm restart' to try video again.  Good luck with that.
[04:38] <AdamBerg> i've got my updates working. i noticed i was able to do them when i was plugged directly into the modem and not the router. however, i have more than one computer and want to use my router. does anyone know why this could be happening
[04:38] <danieleboyo> thanks
[04:39] <seeds> hello. please i need some help. I reinstalled ubuntu today but now i can't see windows xp in grub
[04:39] <seeds> what can i do?
[04:39] <linux_kid> AdamBerg: is this a wifi problem or an update problem?
[04:39] <quaal> seeds, hmm
[04:39] <quaal> it was fine before you 'reinstalled' ?
[04:39] <cryosphere> its apt-get update/upgrade the best way to stay current?
[04:39] <roostishaw> Is there a noticeable difference between a 386-NO SMP and a 686-WITH SMP (kernels)?
[04:40] <l337dexter> does anyone know of a way to get the linux wireless working on bcm43xx cards?
[04:40] <shatrat> quaal, well, I installed using synaptic and then extracted the official azureus jar from sourceforge into its directory to fix the bugs with the repo version
[04:40] <pike_> good lord what have you guys done with my simple little inittab file?
[04:40] <pike_> event.d ..
[04:40] <quaal> shatrat, hmm. i originally installed with the repository also, but azureus was disappearing randomly. so i downloaded from the website
[04:41] <quaal> shatrat, where did you put the azureus files ?
[04:41] <linux_kid> roostishaw, yes, almost no apps run in 64bit kernels
[04:41] <tim167> does gparted allow making a new partition in unused diskspace and install new os in there ?
[04:41] <quaal> shatrat, or where are they
[04:41] <linux_kid> tim167: yes, it does
[04:41] <roostishaw> linux_kid: crap. really?
[04:41] <shatrat> quaal, trying to remember
[04:41] <dragon> can someone please give me a copy of their sources list for edgy?
[04:42] <tim167> linux_kid: so i can do this: make new partition on my drive which has a broken ubuntu on it, and install a new ubuntu in new partition ?
[04:42] <seeds> quaal: it was fine
[04:42] <linux_kid> roostishaw: run the 32bit ubuntu version, not the 64bit
[04:42] <shatrat> !sourceomatic | dragon
[04:42] <ubotu> dragon: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:43] <linux_kid> tim167: why not just reformat broken ubuntu and install on newly formatted partition?
[04:43] <astroboy> < /bin/sh: can't access tty: job control turned off > .. any solutions ? Won't boot & I can't access a lot of work I have done .. urgh@#$
[04:43] <frogzoo> !easysource | dragon
[04:43] <nexousNET> Hi, How do I have all icons on desktop automatically resized?
[04:43] <bruenig> dragon, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5671/
[04:43] <shatrat> quaal, I cant find it, but there was a post on the ubuntuforums.org about fixing azureus by extracting the .jar into it
[04:43] <l337dexter> does anyone know of a way to get the linux wireless working on bcm43xx cards?
[04:44] <linux_kid> l337dexter: what card number do you have?
[04:44] <tim167> linux_kid: i have no empty diskspace to make a complete backup, i want to keep as much on it as possible
[04:44] <shatrat> l337dexter, check the broadcom how-to on the ubuntuforums.org, worked for me.
[04:44] <l337dexter> 4318
[04:44] <leafw> how can I print the package dependencies of a package
[04:44] <linux_kid> tim167: what you previously stated should work fine
[04:44] <leafw> there is way, I've done it before
[04:45] <kupesoft> If anyone is running Ubuntu 6.06 / Dapper Drake Server Edition, please pm me.  I have a quick question to ask,
[04:45] <linux_kid> !anyone | kupesoft
[04:45] <ubotu> kupesoft: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:45] <bruenig> leafw, apt-cache show package | grep Depends
[04:45] <leafw> thanks
[04:45] <astroboy> ubotu: I did that, no result .. (:-)
[04:46] <kupesoft> linux_kid: How would you recommend I have restructured my question?
[04:46] <bruenig> !ubotu
[04:46] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:46] <linux_kid> kupesoft: whats your problem?
[04:46] <sink_> i've a little question, what's the name of log which save starting, ending reboot and things like that?
[04:46] <tim167> linux_kid: i'm going to try that, i'm looking at fdisk now, or do you recommend installing gparted ?
[04:46] <bruenig> kupesoft, actually ask your question, that wouldn't be a restructure per se but a real question
[04:47] <cafuego_> l337dexter: Plonk it onto the 11Mbit rate and install the bcm43xx firmware. Should be fine.
[04:47] <linux_kid> tim167: you have to use a liveboot cd to change partitions
[04:47] <kupesoft> The Edgy/server kernel doesn't come with the madwifi module and there's basically no way of installing it without compiling by hand.  I'm curious if the same situation exists for the Dapper server kernel.
[04:47] <cafuego_> kupesoft: probably. Just install the normal kernel.
[04:47] <tim167> linux_kid: ubuntu live cd any good for that ?
[04:48] <linux_kid> tim167: yes
[04:48] <kupesoft> cafuego_: I'm not looking to install it.  I'm writing some documentation for madwifi.
[04:48] <cafuego_> kupesoft: aaahhh.
[04:48] <kupesoft> cafuego_: Hence the "If anyone..."
[04:49] <cafuego_> kupesoft: Well, as luck would have it..
[04:49] <kupesoft> cafuego_: You're running dapper/server?
[04:49] <bruenig> kupesoft, but don't you think it would make more sense to ask everyone at once, so that those who have dapper server but don't know, don't waste their and your time pming you
[04:49] <cafuego_> Linux vitta 2.6.15-28-server #1 SMP Thu Feb 1 16:58:14 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:49] <leafw> @#@$#@$%@! Could not find default font "fixed"
[04:49] <leafw> the livecd works ... the installation doesn't
[04:49] <leafw> makes no sense
[04:50] <kupesoft> cafuego_: modprobe -l ath_pci
[04:50] <tim167> linux_kid: rebooting now, there is a nested live cd (dynebolic) on this hd, will ubuntu install cd's repartitioning tool see this or regard it as empty space ?
[04:50] <kupesoft> cafuego_: sudo modprobe -l ath_pci
[04:50] <daev> Realtek AC97 Codec (sound card) -- can't seem to get the driver installed. after './install' i get a long list of errors.
[04:50] <kupesoft> cafuego_: What's your output?
[04:50] <cafuego_> kupesoft: It has no restricted-modules, so there is no atheros.
[04:50] <cafuego_> kupesoft: (no output)
[04:50] <__mikem> leafw, in the boot screen for the disk, there should be a thing to check and make sure the disk isn't curupt, run it.
[04:50] <kupesoft> cafuego_: I figured as much.  Thank you kindly!
[04:50] <blazemonger> anyone here use Debian AND Ubuntu on the same system?
[04:51] <tim167> linux_kid: i spose its just inside the main linux partition, because i can see it on /mnt/hd1/1/dyne
[04:51] <__mikem> leafw if that doesn't work, try the "alternative" instalation cd image on the ubuntu website
[04:51] <leafw> __mikem : I did. The disks are fine.
[04:51] <leafw> and the CD is fine too
[04:51] <l337dexter> how do you add the other repos on edgy eft?
[04:51] <__mikem> okay, then try the alternative install cd
[04:51] <blazemonger> another thing.i've noticed bugs in edgy..that aren't in debian
[04:51] <__mikem> by the way, what version are you using
[04:51] <linux_kid> tim167: excuse me, but what is on /mnt/hd1/1/dyne ?
[04:51] <blazemonger> but there's some things ubuntu is better with like audio
[04:52] <leafw> __mikem: I installed from the alternate, no other way to setuo LVM otherwise. Then I sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:52] <leafw> amd64 here
[04:52] <leafw> well. EMT64, but for ubuntu that's the saem
[04:52] <tim167> linux_kid: a 'nested' live cd named dynebolic (www.dynebolic.org)
[04:52] <__mikem> oh, are you using the 64 bit version of ubuntu (it doesn't matter, I am just curious)
[04:53] <__mikem> oh crap
[04:53] <tim167> linux_kid: this allows it to be booted from hd instead of cd
[04:53] <linux_kid> tim167: im not very knowledgable in embedded live cd's, sorry
[04:53] <zero88> where do i locate programs SYnaptic downloads?
[04:54] <nalioth> zero88: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[04:54] <__mikem> hey nalioth
[04:54] <nalioth> hi __mikem
[04:55] <zero88> nalioth thanks, how would i load it through a terminal and have it run still after closing the terminal window?
[04:55] <shiv> nalioth: Hi
[04:55] <__mikem> hey Madpilot
[04:55] <Madpilot> __mikem, hi
[04:55] <quaal> British_Intel, hey you still around?
[04:55] <nalioth> zero88: how would you load what?
[04:55] <AdamBer1> i just used the package loader to get the nvidia drivers
[04:55] <shiv> nalioth: were u associated with arklinux at any time?
[04:56] <AdamBer1> however, i can't change my resolution to widescreen yet
[04:56] <zero88> nalioth, Firestarter, i can load it through the termianl but want to keep it loaded after closing the terminal window
[04:56] <nalioth> shiv: i was not.
[04:56] <nalioth> zero88: any changes you make with firestarter will be retained until you change the settings again
[04:56] <__mikem> Madpilot, I don't know if this is your department, but would you mind checking the cd image for the 64 bit version of ubuntu on the website, I have someone saying that the installer isn't working properly complaining about a missing font file, the guy appears to know what he is talking about, and insists the cd selfcheck returned no errors
[04:57] <EchoBinar1> im back!
[04:57] <EchoBinar1> about to set up xubuntu (edgy) to be a vmware server, had a thought, how will the hard drives interact?   is it reasonable to expect the xubuntu server drive to be able to see the data on the vm drives and vice versa?
[04:57] <Madpilot> __mikem, not my department at all - file a bug @ bugs.ubuntu.com
[04:57] <__mikem> okay
[04:57] <zero88> nalioth, i dont understand?
[04:57] <blazemonger> why is it that Ubuntu is slow ?
[04:57] <daev> your computer is lacking ram?
[04:57] <blazemonger> Debian is very fast on my older p4 system but with Ubuntu
[04:57] <__mikem> leafw, if you believe heres a problem with the cd image on the website, you can file a bug report at bugs.ubuntu.com
[04:57] <nalioth> zero88: firestarter is just a frontend to iptables.  once you make changes in firestarter, they are kept until you change them again
[04:57] <blazemonger> 768 megabytes of memory is LOW AMOUNT!?!?
[04:58] <shatrat> blazemonger, no video acceleration?
[04:58] <blazemonger> nope
[04:58] <daev> its what i'm running on ubuntu, and i have no problems
[04:58] <blazemonger> but things run just FINE in Debian though
[04:58] <leafw> __mikem : Xorg.0.log reported I needed to run mkfontdir on a certain folder .. I did, nothing changed
[04:59] <zero88> nalioth, ya i know, i mean say i opened a terminal window.and i type $ firestarter, it will load and work fine.but say i didnt want that terminal window that started firestarter anymore open,nd i closed it,it will close firestarter also,how do i keep firestarter running if i close the window
[04:59] <__mikem> leafw, like I said, it sounds like a problem with the cd, I personally didn't have any problems with my install cd, but I am not using the 64 bit version. I would recomend you file a bug report at bugs.ubuntu.com
[04:59] <Madpilot> zero88, System menu->Admin->Firestarter
[04:59] <ardchoille> blazemonger: Ubuntu is not debian. It may be that the way you are doing things on debian is causing Ubuntu to be slow. You can't do things the same way on every distro and expect the same outcome.
[05:00] <leafw> __mikem : the CD did a minimal install, I installed everything from the repos
[05:00] <zero88> Madpilot thanks
[05:00] <__mikem> leafw, okay.
[05:00] <trollboy> is there a package for mod-rewrite
[05:00] <ptl> hello all... I hope you can help me, I have googled all over with no solution. I recently updated libatk and some other gnome package and now gnome fonts are not appearing. To make things worse, apt-get/apt-cache/aptitude/synaptic etc. are all dumping core, so I can't automatically update/upgrade or reinstall packages, only with dpkg.
[05:00] <ptl> the fonts appear as "squares"
[05:01] <ptl> I need to fix my ubuntu installation... dapper
[05:01] <ptl> how can I do that?
[05:01] <ptl> I have found an udeb of libatk, what's the use of an 'udeb'?
[05:01] <__mikem> pt1, not that it matters, but Ubuntu Edgy Eft is out, and way nicer than dapper.
[05:01] <ptl> oops
[05:01] <__mikem> pt1 have you tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:01] <ptl> __mikem: sorry, I meant edgy
[05:02] <ptl> xorg.conf was not deconfigured/changed at all
[05:02] <EchoBinary> lol
[05:02] <__mikem> pt1, yes, but your fonts may have been curupted or overwriten by something
[05:02] <__mikem> reinstalling xorg may fix that
[05:02] <nemesis> hi all
[05:03] <nemesis> anyone knows which is the file where gnome stores the programs launched at startup?
[05:03] <tim167> ok i'm going to reinstall ubuntu by simply choosing to automatically resize a partition and use freed space in the live cd installer...and hope i dont loose any data, if this sounds like a bad idea, stop me :)
[05:03] <ptl> reinstalling all x11 packages, __mikem ?
[05:03] <ptl> it is just gnome fonts that doesn't
[05:03] <ptl> but the weird thing is that all KDE fonts work
[05:03] <__mikem> pt1, do you know what package the gnome fonts are in?
[05:04] <ptl> __mikem: not really
[05:04] <nalioth> zero88: open it with "firestarter &"
[05:04] <__mikem> pt1, and yes I would go ahead and reinstall the x11 packages
[05:04] <nalioth> !tell zero88 about cli
[05:04] <__mikem> nalioth, what package is the gnome fonts in?
[05:04] <nalioth> __mikem: use apt-cache search
[05:05] <ptl> nalioth: I can't use apt-cache search, it dumps core
[05:05] <nalioth> ptl: then use http://packages.ubuntu.com
[05:06] <__mikem> sounds to me like something just $#!+ itself on his machine
[05:06] <ptl> __mikem: it was all working ok till today...
[05:06] <UntouchableMX> waz up
[05:06] <__mikem> pt1, what did you install when this happened
[05:07] <minimec> hi. What are the system requierements of totem? I have a PIII 400 with a ATI Rage pro (direct rendering 'on'), but I am not capable to play the 'mandela-example-movie'
[05:07] <ptl> I installed a bunch of -dev packages (libgtk2.0 and libatk1.0, which had not the -ubuntu suffix, had to be downgraded by minor versions)
[05:07] <UntouchableMX> can some one help me to install apache???
[05:08] <nrdb> I have heard a romour that the PPC is to be droped from the officially support.  Is this true ?
[05:08] <__mikem> pt1, that shouldn't have broken anything. DId you do anything else that may have caused this?
[05:08] <newest007> hey there, has anyone installed doom on linux before?
[05:08] <__mikem> nalioth, why was leafw just k-lined
[05:08] <newest007> im having a little difficulty installing the game
[05:08] <daveyates> doom, doom2, or doom3?
[05:08] <newest007> doom, doom2
[05:09] <newest007> i think the package is called doomsday
[05:09] <UntouchableMX> please some one help to install apache
[05:09] <tim167> ubuntu intaller is resizing partition, it stays at 0%...is it working ? how long should this take ?
[05:11] <UntouchableMX> please some one help me
[05:11] <nalioth> !tell UntouchableMX about lamp
[05:12] <EchoBinary> anyone hre have exp with VMWare?
[05:12] <UntouchableMX> well I just downloaded apache http server and I want to install it
[05:12] <racerii> how do I check what version of ubuntu I have? trying to update my source.list
[05:12] <__mikem> EchoBinary, yes
[05:12] <Pie-rate> Why don't ubuntu's automatic updates give me Linux Genuine Advantage without my consent? what a crappy product.
[05:13] <blanky> how can I easily convert mp3 to ogg, mencoder?
[05:13] <EchoBinary> _mikem: about to set up xubuntu (edgy) to be a vmware server, had a thought, how will the hard drives interact?   is it reasonable to expect the xubuntu server drive to be able to see the data on the vm drives and vice versa?
[05:13] <blanky> anyone, I'm in a hurry
[05:13] <jrib> Pie-rate: they do, they also don't inform you though
[05:13] <GigaClon> I start up audacity and the fonts look crappy, all aliased and blocky
[05:13] <nalioth> UntouchableMX: check your private messages, there is no reason to download anything, apache is in the repos
[05:13] <newest007> this is the link to the page ive been following to install doom: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=330839&highlight=doom   although im having problems when i get to the 'moment of truth' and using the code ./doom, it says that theres no such file!?
[05:13] <GigaClon> any ideas on how to fix?
[05:13] <__mikem> EchoBinary, are you using a physical hard drive for the virtual machine or a virtual disk file
[05:13] <tim167> blanky: mplayer
[05:14] <Pie-rate> jrib: but my computer hasn't been crippled yet, and its past the grace period
[05:14] <blanky> tim167: command line? what's the command, please?
[05:14] <billybob> Pie-rate: actuall you DO consent to genuine advantage, try installing update manually sometime ;)
[05:14] <EchoBinary> right - understand that part, but what if I want to transfer files off the virtual machine onto th ehost
[05:14] <EchoBinary> the host*
[05:14] <jrib> Pie-rate: file a bug
[05:14] <__mikem> EchoBinary, you have several options there
[05:14] <racerii> how do I check which version of ubuntu I have?
[05:14] <tim167> blanky: sorry dont remember, its been a while
[05:14] <jrib> !version | racerii
[05:14] <ubotu> racerii: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[05:15] <daev> Realtek AC97 Codec (sound card) -- can't seem to get the driver installed. after './install' i get a long list of errors.
[05:15] <billybob> same old syndrome, no matter what OS 'clickity clickity clickity' . . .
[05:15] <blanky> anyone know what I can use to convert mp3 to ogg fast
[05:15] <__mikem> EchoBInary, do you have a lan set up with smb shares on it?
[05:15] <racerii> thanks jrib
[05:15] <blanky> !restrictedformats
[05:15] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:15] <EchoBinary> yeap
[05:15] <blanky> how?
[05:15] <__mikem> okay, do you know the Local IP address of the server
[05:15] <EchoBinary> ok, so ill have to use the network to transfer files
[05:15] <__mikem> yes thats the idea
[05:16] <EchoBinary> *nod* alrighty - that's cool
[05:16] <cables> blanky, you could probably make a script to run it first through LAME then some vorbis encoder
[05:16] <__mikem> if you were using vmware workstation, you could also use whats called a shared folder
[05:16] <__mikem> but I don't think vmware server supports that feature
[05:16] <EchoBinary> the idea is that the host will also be a file server
[05:16] <__mikem> yes I understand
[05:16] <blanky> cables: I just want to convert ONE mp3 file haha, no need to go overkill, thanks though
[05:16] <Pie-rate> cool, if you try to run the windows genuine advantage on linux with firefox, it gives you an endless loop of javascript alerts
[05:16] <cables> blanky, if it's just 1 that you want to convert, you can use Audacity
[05:16] <EchoBinary> but the VM's will have access to the "outside world"
[05:16] <EchoBinary> and the host idealy will not
[05:16] <blanky> cables: thanks I know that, I Was wondering if there was a fast easy way, maybe mencoder
[05:17] <__mikem> EchoBinary, if the host doesn't have access to the outside world, I don't see any way in which the virtual machine will, infact that doesn't even make sense
[05:17] <tim167> blankey: i have a script that does m4a to mp3 if you want
[05:17] <cables> blanky, it'll be faster to download Audacity and use it than it will be to figure out Mencoder for 1 mp3
[05:17] <EchoBinary> is there any way to configure the VMs to use one NIC and the host to use another?
[05:17] <blanky> cables: I know, I was just WONDERING if anyone knew the command at the top of their head, I'll do that though
[05:17] <Biovore> EchoBinary: VM ware?
[05:18] <cables> blanky, ok
[05:18] <__mikem> EchoBinary, I never tried it, I always used a network bridge
[05:18] <__mikem> And I am using VMware workstation
[05:18] <__mikem> not VMware server
[05:18] <EchoBinary> hmmm
[05:19] <Biovore> EchoBinary: VMware Workstation I think you have to manual hack the VM after you make it to use a certian interface.. I think it can be done..
[05:19] <__mikem> Biovore, he is not using Workstation
[05:19] <tim167> what should i do now: chose install in ubuntu live cd, resize partition, started it, but it stays at 0%, if i interrupt it will it break my harddisk ?
[05:19] <EchoBinary> Biovore: interested in using VMware Server
[05:20] <Biovore> EchoBinary: I think they support that..  I am not sure how..  check with vmware.
[05:20] <__mikem> EchoBinary, I personally recomend you use vmware player over vmware workstation, because workstation has a very poor graphics layer and consequentially trying to run X will result in painfully slow performance
[05:20] <__mikem> s/workstation/server
[05:21] <frogzoo> EchoBinary: there should be a script vmware-config.pl somewhere, that will configure your networking
[05:21] <EchoBinary> ..  I suppose my goal is a more secure system - am I overthinking it?  should I just lock down my install and have it be that way?
[05:21] <__mikem> EchoBinary why not just use a firewall
[05:21] <EchoBinary> I am - but I poke lots of holes for various reasons
[05:21] <frogzoo> EchoBinary: tbh windows VMs on a linux box are a security threat, & you're best off firewalling them
[05:21] <EchoBinary> torrents, web serving, media sharing etc
[05:22] <tim167> how long does repartitioning take normally on a 100gb hd? 15 minutes? 1 h ? 1 day ?
[05:22] <foutrelis> hey :)
[05:22] <EchoBinary> not planning to use windows VMs on my box
[05:22] <Biovore> tim167: 10 secs to partition
[05:22] <frogzoo> tim167: 15 mins for a full format - quick format 30secs
[05:22] <foutrelis> tim167: A few minutes
[05:22] <EchoBinary> in fact, was thinking of other ubuntus or freebsd
[05:22] <foutrelis> tim167: or seconds :P
[05:22] <__mikem> frogzoo how is having a windows vm on a linux box a security threat?
[05:22] <Biovore> tim167: maybe 3 mins to format..
[05:22] <frogzoo> mikefoo: viruses plus it's hackable
[05:23] <tim167> hm it was just at 0% in repartitioning process for about 30 minutes
[05:23] <EchoBinary> bad administration is a security threat no matter the platform/OS
[05:23] <__mikem> wow, the list of reasons not to use windows grows ever longer
[05:23] <foutrelis> tim167: I don't think that's normal.. :S
[05:24] <tim167> i canceled it, and now, strangely enough, it seems like all is fine, it asks me to install ubuntu to new partition
[05:24] <cryosphere> is there anyway to see everything that appeared on my screen during start up?
[05:24] <EchoBinary> dmesg?
[05:24] <__mikem> cryosphere try looking at the screen
[05:24] <cryosphere> hmm
[05:24] <cryosphere> well YES, but is it logged somewhere?
[05:24] <EchoBinary> dmesg might help a lil
[05:25] <seeds> please i need some help. I reinstalled ubuntu today but now i can't see windows xp in grub
[05:25] <tim167> can i choose NOT to install grub ? (because i want to keep my old grub menu)
[05:25] <frogzoo> seeds: multiple hard drives?
[05:25] <cryosphere> does dmesg contain everything from the start
[05:25] <cryosphere> ?
[05:25] <seeds> frogzoo: no, just 1
[05:25] <EchoBinary> not sure actually
[05:25] <forQed> Is there a way to stop Vitual ethernet so /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl will work?
[05:25] <EchoBinary> but I found it helpful in my slackware days
[05:26] <UntouchableMX_> I have the apache http server file, and I want to install it
[05:26] <__mikem> !duelboot
[05:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about duelboot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:26] <__mikem> crap
[05:26] <ReKlipz> hey guys, ive got a question about network bridges
[05:26] <__mikem> I used to know of a factoid that would have addressed seeds' problem
[05:26] <jml> how can I get emacs to use the Bitstream Mono font
[05:26] <foutrelis> !dualboot
[05:26] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[05:26] <foutrelis> :)
[05:26] <cryosphere> Echo: right I sure either, the reason I asking is becase my laptop will connect to the internet and recognize my USB devices one time out of every 5 times I boot  . . .
[05:26] <tim167> if gparted says space is unallocated, can i trust it ?
[05:27] <__mikem> there we go
[05:27] <cryosphere> *i NOT sure either
[05:27] <__mikem> !dualboot | seeds
[05:27] <ubotu> seeds: please see above
[05:27] <frogzoo> seeds: in /boot/grub/menu.lst  - at the bottom, should be something like rootnoverify (hd0,0)
[05:27] <seeds> !dualboot
[05:27] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[05:27] <UntouchableMX_> any one willing to help a n00b
[05:27] <ReKlipz> Ive got a windows box with 2 ethernet ports and a wifi card. It gets inet via wifi. Ive got a box i just put ubuntu on, which has an ethernet port. Is there anyway to get internet to the ubuntu box by hooking it up to the windows box?
[05:27] <cables> !ask | UntouchableMX_
[05:27] <ubotu> UntouchableMX_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:28] <foutrelis> !ask | UntouchableMX_
[05:28] <UntouchableMX_> how to install apache
[05:28] <__mikem> !lamp
[05:28] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[05:28] <ReKlipz> sudo apt-get install apache
[05:28] <foutrelis> UntouchableMX_: Try using Synaptic :)
[05:29] <frogzoo> ReKlipz: easiest is to enable net sharing on the doze box, and then point the ubuntu to the doze box as default gateway
[05:29] <ReKlipz> frogzoo, so the ubuntu will get to the internet that way?
[05:29] <UntouchableMX_> and after it finishes how do run it in graphical mode, because I intall mysql and dont know how to run it in graphical mode
[05:29] <seeds> frogzoo: there isn't somehitng like rootnoverify (hd0,0)
[05:29] <frogzoo> ReKlipz: should do
[05:30] <ReKlipz> frogzoo, will i need a crossover or just a regular patch (ive got both)
[05:30] <frogzoo> ReKlipz: nic to nic (no hub) you want a crossover
[05:30] <ReKlipz> frogzoo, and as far as ip's, just static <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> or something else?
[05:30] <frogzoo> ReKlipz: definately use static
[05:30] <foutrelis> UntouchableMX_: Use Synaptic to install phpmyadmin, mysql-server-5.0 and php5. Then you will have a LAMP environment ready to use :)
[05:30] <ReKlipz> k, ill give it a shot
[05:31] <__mikem> well, I am going to bed
[05:31] <__mikem> night
[05:31] <jeff_> anyone have any leads as to what might cause telnet to refuse connection, even from the same server?
[05:31] <ReKlipz> to assign ip's in linux, sudo ifconfig eth0 <what here?>
[05:31] <jeff_> hunted all over can't pint it down
[05:32] <nightlogin> hallo
[05:33] <justme_> jeff, is telnet-server installed?
[05:33] <ReKlipz> frogzoo, how do i make the ubuntu point to the doze box as its gateway, just put the doze's box in for the gateway ip?
[05:33] <frogzoo> ReKlipz: /etc/network/interfaces  gateway=x.x.x.x
[05:33] <frogzoo> ReKlipz: /etc/network/interfaces  gateway x.x.x.x
[05:34] <ReKlipz> k
[05:34] <jeff_> justme i have telnet and telnetd installed
[05:35] <jeff_> a line for telnet shows up in inetd.conf
[05:35] <ReKlipz> do i need to reboot or anything?
[05:35] <justme_> jeff what verison of ubuntu?
[05:35] <ReKlipz> or just down / up the thing?
[05:35] <jeff_> 6.10
[05:35] <frogzoo> ReKlipz: sudo ifdown eth0 ; sudo ifup eth0
[05:36] <ReKlipz> its trying to do dhcp...
[05:36] <ReKlipz> when i do ifup
[05:37] <ReKlipz> its got a line: iface eth0 inet dhcp
[05:37] <steelb> anyway to get extended ascii to work in ubuntu?
[05:37] <Biovore> steelb: well your in unicode in linux
[05:37] <steelb> but... my passwords
[05:37] <justme_> jeff, just tried it on my 6.10 got the same issue.  Give me a few........
[05:37] <Biovore> steelb: gnucharmap
[05:38] <AfC> What would be a [web?]  way of finding out what something is packaged as in Ubuntu and at what versions? Obviously there are tools to do so on an Ubuntu box, but for someone not running the distro, is there somewhere they can look?
[05:38] <frogzoo> ReKlipz: should read iface eth0 inet static  - the gateway x.x.x goes under that in same para
[05:38] <jeff_> justme, ty :) i was going nuts (short trip for me tho)
[05:38] <ReKlipz> frogzoo, ya, and the gateway is just the ip of the doze box
[05:38] <frogzoo> ReKlipz: you'll need address/netmask specs also
[05:38] <ReKlipz> k
[05:38] <steelb> thanks biovore
[05:38] <ReKlipz> they're there
[05:39] <ReKlipz> frogzoo, that didnt work
[05:39] <ReKlipz> cant reach google.com
[05:39] <frogzoo> ReKlipz: can you ping doze?
[05:39] <ReKlipz> lets see
[05:40] <ReKlipz> nope
[05:40] <frogzoo> ReKlipz: check ip setting on doze
[05:40] <ReKlipz> ip: <IP_ADDRESS>, submas: <IP_ADDRESS>, default gateway: (blank)
[05:40] <ReKlipz> thats the doze
[05:41] <ReKlipz> ubuntu is ip: <IP_ADDRESS>, submask: <IP_ADDRESS>, gateway: <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:41] <frogzoo> ReKlipz: k, ifconfig on the linux box should give an ip, & route -n the route table
[05:42] <BHSPitMonkey> I'm wondering if there's a way to set up a separate little desktop that a remote client would receive, instead of the host's regular desktop.
[05:42] <BHSPitMonkey> With its own custom resolution.
[05:42] <BHSPitMonkey> RE: VNC
[05:42] <BHSPitMonkey> Sorry, I left the intro sentence out. Heh.
[05:42] <ljlolel> When I run gv, ghostscript message "Unknown device: x11" is issued.
[05:42] <wasabi_> BHSPitMonkey: THat's traditionally how VNC works.
[05:42] <wasabi_> BHSPitMonkey: install a VNC server, and run it.
[05:43] <ReKlipz> frogzoo: ubuntu box: inet addr: <IP_ADDRESS> Bcast:<IP_ADDRESS> mask:<IP_ADDRESS>
[05:43] <BHSPitMonkey> wasabi_, yeah, but I'm only used to setting it up to 0:0
[05:43] <wasabi_> apt-cache search vnc server
[05:43] <ReKlipz> route -n: destination: <IP_ADDRESS> gateway: <IP_ADDRESS> genmask:<IP_ADDRESS> flags:u metric:0 ref:0 use:0 iface:eth0
[05:44] <aleka> I get Choppy sound when playing streaming video in Realplayer 10 Gold (video format=.smil) is there any known workaround for this??
[05:45] <ReKlipz> frogzoo k, i can ping the doze box now
[05:45] <ReKlipz> frogzoo, now theres another entry in the route table
[05:46] <frogzoo> ReKlipz: k, you'll need to set /etc/resolv.conf to point to a dns server too
[05:46] <K|NgGh0sT> if I wanted to dispay the first 5 lines in a txt file, and no more that have a keyword what would that syntext be?
[05:46] <frogzoo> K|NgGh0sT: head -5 blah
[05:47] <ReKlipz> frogzoo: how do i enable sharing on the doze box, just turn inet connection sharing on and choose the connection that is getting inet?
[05:47] <frogzoo> ReKlipz: there's a wizard "enable networking" & you select allow lan to access internet through this host
[05:48] <ReKlipz> k
[05:48] <K|NgGh0sT> frogzoo, that just shows the first five lines, not the first two lines that have say keyword 'test'
[05:48] <peshalto> grep test | head 5
[05:48] <ReKlipz> frogzoo: what do i do for the /etc/resolv.conf, where do iget a dns server ip from?
[05:48] <peshalto> er
[05:48] <peshalto> grep test filename | head 5
[05:48] <K|NgGh0sT> sweet thanks
[05:49] <frogzoo> ReKlipz: you'll probably get away with pointing to the doze box as the dns server
[05:49] <peshalto> K|NgGh0sT: your comma was in a weird place, so your question wasn't clear...
[05:49] <ReKlipz> frogzoo: k, there is no resolv.conf in etc
[05:50] <peshalto> is it easy to get two monitors working with ubuntu?
[05:50] <andres_> as i install beryl in my kubuntu edgy?
[05:50] <justme_> jeff, checkout this link  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-31418.html%22***%3C/t-19344.html
[05:50] <frogzoo> peshalto: it's not straight forward, if you know what you're doing it's not hard
[05:50] <peshalto> I tried a couple weeks ago, and it seemed like a bunch of editing of x-something files was required
[05:51] <justme_> Jeff, will ssh work for you?  More secure than telnet.
[05:51] <frogzoo> ReKlipz: don't see how you can not have an /etc/resolv.conf
[05:51] <GMWeezel> If I install another video card in my computer, will Linux automatically select it over the integrated card?
[05:51] <britt_> trackpad tapping gets disabled only after i login and then kill X and re-login...what gives?
[05:51] <peshalto> frogzoo: I don't know what I'm doing when it comes to scan lines, interlacing, etc. (wtf?)
[05:51] <frogzoo> peshalto: nothings changed in a couple of weeks
[05:51] <peshalto> heh
[05:51] <ReKlipz> the pust is a fresh install, never online, that make it possible?
[05:51] <jeff_> justme, sure that works (assuming i can get a way to use it from an xp node)
[05:52] <yell0w> hey guys, what's p and v in the first line of the search result of aptitude stands for ?
[05:52] <jeff_> i got connection refused on ssh too
[05:52] <frogzoo> peshalto: best to google & find some sample xorg.conf you can copy off
[05:52] <frogzoo> peshalto: unless you have an ATI?
[05:52] <peshalto> frogzoo: I have an nVidia, I think it's a 5200 or something.
[05:53] <jeff_> (although ssh i'm not sure i have all packages installed, attempting to check...)
[05:53] <britt_> trackpad tapping gets disabled only after i login and then kill X and re-login...what gives?
[05:53] <andres_> whoy helps me? as I Install beryl in my kubuntu edgy?
[05:53] <peshalto> that's one thing I'll never understand. how tf are we expected to know what model of hardware components we have, a few years after throwing away the box?
[05:53] <justme_> Jeff, sudo apt-get install ssh
[05:53] <frogzoo> !beryl | andres_
[05:53] <ubotu> andres_: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:53] <justme_> Jeff, on xp download putty.exe
[05:54] <peshalto> my motherboard manual tells two ways to ID the specific model. when I use the two ways, the resuls conflict! :-)
[05:54] <justme_> Jeff, I use it everyday works great.
[05:54] <koregaonpark> Hey, I just upgraded to Edgy, but now my comp is taking forever to boot up. I remember the fix for this might have been disabling the boot screen.
[05:54] <K|NgGh0sT> peshalto, can you search for two different keywords in the same line?
[05:54] <ReKlipz> frogzoo: the pute is a fresh install, never online, that make it possible?
[05:54] <peshalto> K|NgGh0sT sure... string greps together: grep word1 filename | grep word2 | head 5
[05:54] <britt_> trackpad tapping gets disabled only after i login and then kill X and re-login...what gives?\
[05:54] <jeff_> justme, ok installing...
[05:55] <phixnay> Hi, I'm trying to install nvidia drivers for my old computer
[05:55] <peshalto> K|NgGh0sT: that will find only lines that have both words. grep -i if you want to ignore case.
[05:55] <phixnay> Device Manager says I have a "NV6 [Vanta/Vanta LT] "
[05:55] <frogzoo> ReKlipz: in that case "sudo -i ; echo nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> > /etc/resolv.conf"
[05:56] <koregaonpark> I upgraded to Edgy, but now my comp is taking forever to boot up. I don't even see the boot screen (the new black one), only a flashing cursor.
[05:56] <jeff_> ok thanks justme looks like i can at least get in from localhost with ssh;
[05:56] <frogzoo> !fixres > koregaonpark
[05:56] <justme_> Jeff, Google for putty.exe.  Its a free download.
[05:56] <ReKlipz> k
[05:56] <ReKlipz> frogzoo, k, done
[05:56] <koregaonpark> frogzoo, what?
[05:56] <jeff_> i will see if i can make it work from xp altho the next set of probs is i can't samba nor postgres sql to my ubuntu box
[05:56] <phixnay> Do I need glx-nvidia or glx-nvidia-legacy + nvidia-settings?
[05:56] <jeff_> (that
[05:56] <braniff> what linux app will open up a webpage and then save it as a windoze "compiled html file" ??
[05:57] <frogzoo> koregaonpark: read the pm from the bot
[05:57] <peshalto> frogzoo: really want to make the switch. i'm down to two programs I would miss if I switched my main machine to Linux: 1) TotalRecorder and 2) printer drivers for a Canon S900.
[05:57] <jeff_> 's another whole set of debugging i kno)
[05:57] <koregaonpark> oh, okay... frogzoo
[05:57] <ReKlipz> frogzoo, theres nothing in the file
[05:57] <ReKlipz> oops
[05:57] <ReKlipz> k, ya theres nothing in there when i load with gedit
[05:57] <koregaonpark> frogzoo, it's not a screen resolution problem! i don't see the _boot_ screen, when i turn on my comp
[05:57] <frogzoo> ReKlipz: in that case "sudo -i ; echo nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> > /etc/resolv.conf"
[05:58] <peshalto> koregaonpark: whence your handle, koregaonpark?
[05:58] <Mixx> i originally had:  hda1:ntfs windows | hda2:ext3 ubuntu || now I've used dd to copy hda2 to hdb1 but now GRUB is failing because I'm sure my MBR points to the second partition on the drive.  If I use grub-install, will it blow away my existing config?
[05:58] <justme_> Jeff, make sure xp firewall isnt blocking samba
[05:58] <st3v3dnd> Anyone know what I need to do to be able to hear sound from multiple sources at the same time? Right now, if I say have firefox running some audio, it hogs the sound card, and mplayer can't get a hold of the sound card to play its sound. Shouldn't there be multiple channels or some such to prevent this problem?
[05:58] <koregaonpark> peshalto?
[05:58] <phixnay> Hi, I'm trying to install nvidia drivers for my old computer. Device Manager says I have a "NV6 [Vanta/Vanta LT] ." Do I need glx-nvidia or glx-nvidia-legacy + nvidia-settings?
[05:58] <frogzoo> Mixx: yep
[05:58] <posingaspopular> Mixx: what's the problem if you mind me asking?
[05:58] <ReKlipz> k, now it worked when i did it
[05:59] <peshalto> koregaonpark: sorry, phone rang
[05:59] <jeff_> hurrah putty works to ubuntu ty justme
[05:59] <ReKlipz> frogzoo, still no inet after an ifdown ifup
[05:59] <justme_> Jeff, np.  NIGHT!
[05:59] <frogzoo> ReKlipz: can ping doze?
[05:59] <jeff_> g'night :)
[05:59] <ReKlipz> frogzoo, yep
[05:59] <frogzoo> ReKlipz: doze = xp ?
[06:00] <ReKlipz> frogzoo - ya
[06:00] <frogzoo> ReKlipz: you've run the share internet wiz?
[06:00] <Mixx> posingaspopular I used to dual-boot ubuntu and Windows XP and now I've decided to get rid of XP (yay!) and expand the partition.  I have two similarly sized drives, one, my original, has Ubuntu on the second partition.  The second, the one I want to move to, has Ubuntu on the first partition.
[06:00] <britt_> trackpad tapping gets disabled only after i login and then kill X and re-login...what gives?\
[06:00] <Mixx> posingaspopular I'm trying to recreate the MBR but keep my existing GRUB config
[06:00] <ReKlipz> frogzoo, i tried the network stup wizard, dunno where the share inet wizard is, so i tried to do it manujally using the properties window of the nic card
[06:01] <frogzoo> ReKlipz: go to network settings - LHS - setup network
[06:01] <ReKlipz> frogzoo: setup a home or small office network, k, there
[06:01] <koregaonpark> ahoy, can anyone help me please? i just upgraded to edgy and now ubuntu is taking forever to boot. i believe the solution is turning off the gui boot screen, the fancy black one with the ubuntu logo.
[06:01] <Mixx> posingaspopular of course when I boot the new drive GRUB gets an error because (i assume) it can't find the config on the second partition.  I am considering using GRUB-INSTALL to recreate the MBR, but I'm afraid it's going to completely wipe out my menu.lst etc
[06:02] <dilch> is a 2 giggerhurtz pentium or whatever able to run ubuntu?
[06:02] <frogzoo> dilch: yep
[06:02] <dilch> what about dual xeons?
[06:02] <jellobean> I am using alternate install to install umbuntu, and it does not recognize my dvd rom...any suggestions?
[06:02] <peshalto> koregaonpark: i can't help, but was curious about your handle
[06:02] <frogzoo> dilch: also yep - those machines would profit from a gig or more of ram
[06:03] <dilch> oh, and also, i'd like to run ubuntu on my sun hardware as well
[06:03] <koregaonpark> peshalto, it's the name of a neighbourhood, that's all.... you might have seen it on /. or digg where i'm an active contributor
[06:03] <frogzoo> dilch: maybe
[06:03] <gerald> which GTK package do I download for delopment
[06:03] <dilch> how about on my IBM RS6000?
[06:03] <dilch> i need to replace AIX .... so outdated now
[06:03] <peshalto> koregaonpark: heh, I used to live in that neighborhood, is why I asked
[06:03] <britt_> trackpad tapping gets disabled only after i login and then kill X and re-login...what gives?\
[06:03] <ReKlipz> woot!
[06:03] <frogzoo> !sparc > dilch
[06:03] <peshalto> in pune
[06:03] <ReKlipz> frogzoo: LOVE YOU!!!!!
[06:03] <koregaonpark> peshalto, oh yeah?
[06:04] <frogzoo> heh
[06:04] <fiberchunks> avast! koregaonpark, add  splash=silent  to your boot parameters
[06:04] <phixnay> Hi, I'm trying to install nvidia drivers for my old computer. Device Manager says I have a "NV6 [Vanta/Vanta LT] ." Do I need glx-nvidia or glx-nvidia-legacy + nvidia-settings? EIther way, glx doesn't work, what do I do?
[06:04] <peshalto> long long time ago
[06:04] <ReKlipz> frogzoo, there is an easier way to do it btw
[06:04] <koregaonpark> fiberchunks, how do i do that?
[06:04] <ReKlipz> frogzoo, on ubunto, turn dhcp on for the nic
[06:04] <dilch> phixnay computer says no
[06:04] <phixnay> ??
[06:04] <koregaonpark> peshalto, so, are you indian?
[06:04] <frogzoo> ReKlipz: best left off, you don't want doze trying to serve dhcp
[06:04] <peshalto> koregaonpark: o
[06:05] <ReKlipz> frogzoo, on the doze box, enable inet sharing for the wireless card and choose the nic that the linux box is connect to to share, and wham
[06:05] <peshalto> koregaonpark: no
[06:05] <ReKlipz> frogzoo, its only temporary, and it kinda forced it...
[06:05] <koregaonpark> peshalto, were you a participant in the ashram?
[06:05] <peshalto> koregaonpark: no again, but lived a couple blocks from it
[06:05] <dilch> oh, i get it .. 'doze' 'cause it's kinda stupid?
[06:05] <Vilhelms> How could I get the Windows key to be considered a modifier like Ctrl, Shift, or Alt instead of it being recognized as a key itself?
[06:05] <ReKlipz> doze cuz it short for windows, a pain to type
[06:05] <koregaonpark> peshalto, okay, cool.
[06:05] <fiberchunks> koregaonpark, when your machine boots, you can add parameters to the boot line via I believe 'f6' or something similar.  Use the key at the bottom that says "boot options"
[06:05] <Vilhelms> I want to be able to use keywords such as Windows+D
[06:05] <zorba64> windows=windoze
[06:05] <peshalto> and you?
[06:06] <dilch> zorba64 it seems rude
[06:06] <koregaonpark> fuberchunks, uhm, im quite the n00b
[06:06] <zorba64> is meant to be...a little
[06:06] <peshalto> i know people who used to frequent the ashram. sounded fun. i was too young for that kind of fun at the time.
[06:06] <ReKlipz> anyone have a better sources.list file?
[06:06] <phixnay> I'm having trouble getting video acceleration, can anyone help?
[06:06] <fiberchunks> koregaonpark, oki, wait one
[06:06] <dilch> phixnay computer says no
[06:06] <frogzoo> dilch: doze - cos it's kinda slow
[06:07] <koregaonpark> peshalto, it is fun... love the pool and the restaurants
[06:07] <Vilhelms> phixnay, What video card do you have?
[06:07] <peshalto> i don't know the pool, unless you mean the blue diamond, or there was a club with a pool.
[06:07] <phixnay> vilhelms: Device manager says I have a "NV6 [Vanta/Vanta LT] "
[06:07] <peshalto> is there a pool there now? I'm sure it's changed a lot.
[06:07] <ReKlipz> time to install beryl
[06:08] <koregaonpark> peshalto, no, i mean in the ashram
[06:08] <dilch> anyway, i can't wait .. i got rid of the doze and installed ubuntu so I can play "Supreme Commander" with no slowdown at all!
[06:08] <koregaonpark> theres always been one there.....
[06:08] <dilch> because everyone said ubuntu was way faster
[06:08] <Vilhelms> phixnay, run lspci | grep VGA
[06:08] <nexousNET> How do I go about playing .mov (quicktime) movies in ubuntu??
[06:08] <frogzoo> Vilhelms: sys -> prefs -> keyboad -> layout options - (windows key = super)
[06:08] <ReKlipz> wheres the default sources.list file?
[06:08] <phixnay> dilch: supreme commander! how did you get it working?
[06:08] <peshalto> koregaonpark: ok, that I understand.. but restaurants? the ashram has those too? or just the neighborhood?
[06:08] <dilch> phixnay i haven't, i'm just about to buy it
[06:08] <gerald> which package from apt-get should i download for gtk development
[06:08] <phixnay> vilhelms: 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV6 [Vanta/Vanta LT]  (rev 15)
[06:09] <dilch> phixnay of course it works on ubuntu?
[06:09] <dilch> why wouldn't it?
[06:09] <koregaonpark> always had those too... basho, zorba, mariam etc.
[06:09] <phixnay> dilch: isn't there a demo out?
[06:09] <Vilhelms> frogzoo, Thanks :)
[06:09] <peshalto> koregaonpark: are you indian?
[06:09] <frogzoo> Vilhelms: yw
[06:09] <dilch> phixnay yes, it comes out next month
[06:09] <n2diy> Anybody setup a satellite tv decoder on a Ubuntu box? My neighbor moved out of the building, and gave me his dishes, so they are all set to go.
[06:09] <peshalto> koregaonpark: and were you at the ashram?
[06:09] <koregaonpark> peshalto, yeh...
[06:09] <koregaonpark> peshalto, still am some of the time
[06:09] <pavs> how to stop debsum daemon from hogging my cpu?
[06:10] <dilch> pavs stop it?
[06:10] <peshalto> koregaonpark: sorry to ask so much. love that old neighborhood. are you still in poona?
[06:10] <pavs> kill it
[06:10] <koregaonpark> peshalto, no prob. sure i am. :-)
[06:10] <dilch> pavs well, that will solve the problem
[06:10] <peshalto> cool
[06:11] <pavs> how?