[16:18] <dr_willis> Vivekananda:  all the *buntus are the same core OS . with differnt desktops and some other changes.
[16:18] <fomg-optimize> Test
[16:18] <dr_willis> Vivekananda:  Puppylinux is perhaps the  weirdest of all Linux Disrtos in existance. ;P
[16:18] <fomg-optimize> Hi! I am having issues with access time and somewhat transfer speed on my SSD. I have discard on file system and have run trim manually repeatedly. This is how it looks http://temp-share.com/show/f3Yg9hjkn. I have the same jitter no matter what scheduler I use. How does it look for you? Run gnome disks benchmark please if you have the time?
[16:19] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: when you say "different desktops with some changes" what are those differences and changes between L and gnome ??
[16:19] <Vivekananda> and why is puppy weird :)
[16:19] <dr_willis> Vivekananda:  see the LXdE homepage to see wht features lxde has
[16:20] <dr_willis> Start usiing puppy... and get into it.. then go use any other disrto and you will see
[16:20] <dr_willis> Only disrto ive seen that comes close to Puppys 'uniqueness' is Tiny Core Linux.
[16:21] <fomg-optimize> I really like them, but they trade off performance for less ram/cpu usage
[16:21] <fomg-optimize> A bit too hardcore
[16:21] <dr_willis> and Puppy is a feral mongral with Rabies compared to Tiny Core.
[16:21] <fomg-optimize> But that is the goal after all
[16:25] <pranavk> how to remove execute permission from all files but not directories recursively. I tried -X and -x but both are removing the execute bit off from both directories and files but i don't want execute bit to be stripped off from ddirectories.
[16:26] <Pici> pranavk: something like: find /path -type f -exec chmod -x {} \;
[16:26] <TakeItEZ> pranavk: find /path -type f|xargs chmod -x
[16:26] <theadmin> Pici: You gotta escape the {}, too.
[16:27] <theadmin> Pici: Ah, my bad, it's zsh being all featureful :D
[16:28] <danman1453> pranavk, i believe you can strip permissions of just files with #chmod -x /some/dir/to/strip/*.*
[16:29] <TomyLobo2> can i build ubuntu packages on a debian machine?
[16:31] <adiaswin> tomylobo: no
[16:31] <TakeItEZ> danman1453: *.* won't match filenames without extension (and its not recursive)
[16:32] <danman1453> i thought the problem was it was being recursive...
[16:32] <TomyLobo2> tomywin, have you tried?
[16:33] <danman1453> would chmod -R -x /some/dir/* work?
[16:33] <TakeItEZ> danman1453: no
[16:33] <theadmin> danman1453: That'd do it with directories too.
[16:33] <tomywin> no
[16:33] <danman1453> ah....
[16:34] <danman1453> just not the working directory
[16:34] <danman1453> ?
[16:34] <TomyLobo2> tomywin, then how do you know?
[16:34] <TakeItEZ> chmod -R -x /path && chmod -R +X path/     should do, but i'd prefer find/xargs
[16:35] <danman1453> i have no experience with the find...
[16:35] <danman1453> how does it compare?
[16:35] <theadmin> danman1453: find /some/dir/* -type f -exec chmod -x '{}' \;
[16:35] <ejv> you're in luck, there's an enormous wealth of documentation!
[16:35] <ejv> man find
[16:35] <TakeItEZ> danman1453: find /path -type f|xargs chmod -x
[16:36] <TakeItEZ> danman1453: you just search files and chmod them
[16:36] <danman1453> so, using the find, then add the chmod permission changes to just the results?
[16:36] <TakeItEZ> yes
[16:36] <tomywin> packages are the newest ubuntu and debian does not install due consseque
[16:36] <tomywin> lack of dependencies
[16:36] <tomywin> and from what I know you could only do it if you are using debian testing
[16:37] <theadmin> danman1453: Both versions (mine and what TakeItEZ suggested) will strip executable bits from files only, recursively.
[16:37] <danman1453> hmmm.... i will have to try it out
[16:37] <tomywin> and soryy my bad english
[16:37] <tomywin> im using google translate
[16:37] <Pici> tomywin: Would #ubuntu-br be more helpful?
[16:38] <TakeItEZ> danman1453: just run "find /path -type f"  and see what you get. the -exec... /xargs just would run chmod on those result-lines
[16:38] <danman1453> still works with files with no extensions?
[16:38] <TakeItEZ> danman1453: a file is a file
[16:38] <TakeItEZ> danman1453: extensions are for humans
[16:38] <dr_willis> silly rabbit. :)
[16:38] <tchaffee> I've been trying for over a week now to get Ubuntu installed on a laptop with UEFI boot.  I've followed this guide, but Ubuntu just won't boot. I get the UEFI grub menu, but then it hangs after that.  Any suggestions?
[16:39] <tomywin> I know ubuntu but it  a real mess
[16:39] <tchaffee> The guide I've followed: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[16:39] <MonkeyDust> !uefi | tchaffee
[16:39] <ejv> brilliant MonkeyDust lol
[16:39] <_methods> tchaffee: what kind of laptop?
[16:39] <theadmin> TakeItEZ: Extensions aren't for humans, they are a silly thing that only sees any use in Windows nowadays. You can determine the filetype by the contents.
[16:40] <ejv> ubottu should really just scrape all chat data, and chime in when it finds something in its database
[16:40] <dromios> has anyone had an issue with installing ubuntu on a raid1?
[16:40] <tomywin> I was already banned from it for nothing
[16:41] <TakeItEZ> theadmin: yes and thats why extensions are for humans who think they need shelscript named .sh or a text .txt
[16:41] <tchaffee> _methods: It's a Toshiba P845t.
[16:41] <danman1453> to limit the find search, i could use path/*.ext -type f instead of path/* -type -f, to limit it to specific files/extensions, correct?
[16:41] <dromios> It installs fine and then after it restarts it just hangs after the asus splashscreen with a blinking -
[16:41] <theadmin> TakeItEZ: Those... "humans" have another name which I'd rather not pronounce here.
[16:41] <TakeItEZ> danman1453: man find (-name '*.txt'
[16:41] <jhutchins_wk> dromios: Grub did not install correctly.
[16:42] <danman1453> ok
[16:42] <danman1453> thanks for the correction to my methods... it does seem easier than chmod'ing each and every directory/file.
[16:42] <jhutchins_wk> dromios: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[16:42] <dromios> it's hardware
[16:44] <danman1453> TakeItEZ, neat.
[16:44] <salamare> 110
[16:44] <salamare> .
[16:44] <dromios> jhutchins_wk it's a hardware raid but I don't get prompted for any special drivers during the installation
[16:44] <TakeItEZ> danman1453: read the man-page or some tutorials about gnu-find, it is a handy tool
[16:45] <rene_> Wie kann ich die Themen in Xubuntu 'ndern_
[16:45] <danman1453> TakeItEZ, will do. like i said, never used it before.
[16:45] <MonkeyDust> !de
[16:45] <jhutchins_wk> dromios: That symptom is typical of grub not being in the mbr.
[16:45] <TakeItEZ> jhutchins_wk: does that affect UEFI too?
[16:46] <fomg-optimize_> Is this amount of jitter in both access time and read speed normal for an SSD? http://s3.postimage.org/sfcc8f0pd/2013_02_04_171201_1366x768_scrot.png
[16:46] <tchaffee> _methods: Any suggestions?
[16:46] <_methods> no sorry i was just reading about samsung laptops bricking when trying uefi install
[16:46] <_methods> http://www.pcworld.com/article/2026807/booting-linux-via-uefi-can-brick-some-samsung-laptops.html
[16:47] <_methods> just wanted to make sure you weren't on a samsung lol
[16:47] <tchaffee> _methods: Thanks. Worth a shot.
[16:50] <tparnell> exit
[16:50] <dhanasekaran> ethtool not working properly in ubuntu 12.04 ethtool -C eth0 adaptive-rx on ; ethtool -c eth0 | grep 'Adaptive RX'
[16:50] <dhanasekaran> root@dvcliftonhera150:~# ethtool -C eth0 adaptive-rx on ; ethtool -c eth0 | grep 'Adaptive RX'
[16:50] <dhanasekaran> Adaptive RX: off  TX: off
[16:50] <savio> i was reading one blog he suggest to add /tmp to memory or something to improve the performance is it really helpful and safe to do?
[16:50] <tchaffee> Anyone else who can help me with installing Ubuntu to my UEFI laptop? I've followed the guide. Tried everything I can find on the forums. It just won't boot Ubuntu when in UEFI boot mode.
[16:51] <theadmin> savio: That will only really improve performance on hard drive systems. SSDs are lightning-fast and that will result in no overall improvement
[16:51] <jhutchins_wk> TakeItEZ: It's typical of the system not finding a bootloader, whatever it's architecture.
[16:51] <savio> theadmin, i have hdd system
[16:51] <theadmin> savio: Oh, then yeah. Well, you need to have a lot of RAM for that to work out.
[16:51] <savio> theadmin, will 3 gb be enough
[16:52] <theadmin> savio: ...Dunno really. All depends on how much temporary data you'll be storing. Probably.
[16:53] <DejaVu> Hello. I'm using 12.04. Missing minimize/maximize/close buttons. Did compiz-decorator --replace to fix but after closing the terminal buttons disappeared again. Any help? Thanks (newbie)
[16:53] <theadmin> DejaVu: You forgot to detach the process: compiz-decorator --replace &disown
[16:53] <savio> theadmin, any idea because my /tmp right now is 183 kb
[16:55] <DejaVu> theadmin: "Starting gtk-window-decorator"... and that's it. Didn't do any good
[16:55] <theadmin> DejaVu: uh. What desktop are you using?
[16:56] <SunilJoshi> Hi, any solution for mount.ntfs problem?
[16:56] <theadmin> SunilJoshi: Which is?
[16:56] <savio> SunilJoshi, what is your problem?
[16:56] <savio> explain?
[16:56] <SunilJoshi> mount.ntfs  high CPU usage
[16:57] <DejaVu> theadmin: gnome
[16:57] <theadmin> DejaVu: As in, gnome-shell? gnome-panel? Unity?
[16:57] <SunilJoshi> i am on ubuntu 12.10 and whenever i perform or system performs disk operation CPU usage increases drastically
[16:57] <SunilJoshi> Dual boot: Windows 7 + Ubuntu12.10
[16:58] <savio> SunilJoshi, how you come to know that your system performance increase ?
[16:59] <SunilJoshi> i am using top command to see the process consuming COU
[16:59] <SunilJoshi> CPU*
[17:00] <rumel> ebooks
[17:00] <DejaVu> theadmin: if i would only know the difference. It's not Unity
[17:01] <savio> SunilJoshi, is it happens on every disk operation or some specific one
[17:02] <theadmin> DejaVu: Hamsters. I haven't worked with plain GNOME at all, not since it was released anyway, don't know much. But why are you trying to use Compiz in GNOME? They use Mutter.
[17:03] <JessicaW> howdy all. I logged into a machine on my network and noticed that it has an eth0, eth0.2010, and a eth0.2125. I've never run into this before. What are these sub interfaces?
[17:04] <DejaVu> theadmin:  that's what i found before start asking here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1755868
[17:04] <ejv> could be network aliases, bridges, etc.
[17:04] <theadmin> DejaVu: That's for 11.04, that was on Gnome2.
[17:04] <theadmin> DejaVu: That cannot be followed.
[17:05] <theadmin> DejaVu: Try: mutter --replace &disown
[17:05] <dmsuperman> How can I get Ubuntu to resolve my windows laptop by hostname? My workgroup is the same in /etc/samba/smb.conf, my /etc/nsswitch.conf contains hostswins
[17:05] <dmsuperman> hosts: wins
[17:06] <DejaVu> theadmin: legit. It worked. whole bunch of Clutter-WARNING but buttons are back
[17:07] <theadmin> DejaVu: That's normal for pretty much every Gtk app, you can safely ignore that
[17:07] <DejaVu> theadmin: hey, big thanks for your time and knowledge
[17:08] <savio> SunilJoshi, there is bug in launchpad see Bug #392204
[17:11] <TomyLobo2> i'm using reprepro. someone has a deb line like "deb http://host/deb binary/"
[17:11] <TomyLobo2> how do i mirror that into precise?
[17:13] <GunArm> man upgrading my 8TB raid5 to raid6 is going to take ~100 hours.  is it even safe to let my drives churn for that long?
[17:14] <Zephyr[D]{P}> I have a problem regarding my wireless card
[17:14] <Zephyr[D]{P}> I'd ask on the forums, but it seems I never received the confirmation email
[17:16] <przemek_> hello Dears , i wanna install raid 0+1 on my 4x300gb disk how musch space will be left for use? thank you for the answe
[17:18] <mnbr> any1 used fedora 17?
[17:19] <ejv> ok so like there's a channel for that: #fedora
[17:19] <ikonia> all the guys in #fedora do
[17:20] <mnbr> failed installing ubuntu 12.04  :(
[17:20] <ejv> i hear fc18 is a real blast, best of luck
[17:20] <Zephyr[D]{P}> I'm trying to find the chipset for my wireless card, and the help page I'm looking at says to use "lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4" to find it
[17:21] <Zephyr[D]{P}> but when I type that, nothing shows up
[17:21] <mnbr> remove grep
[17:21] <ejv> remove the grep, use your eyes
[17:21] <the_rat> Hello, I'm setting up a KVM guest with vmbuilder. It creates the images files, but fails to create the KVM domain. This is the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1609761/
[17:21] <mnbr> ejv?
[17:22] <ejv> mnbr?
[17:22] <mnbr> how r u hiding ur i p in ?
[17:23] <mnbr> ejv alive?
[17:23] <ejv> mnbr, that's offtopic, but if you must know, I use a unaffiliated domain cloak, provided by freenode.
[17:24] <EvanCarr1ll> Zephyr[D]{P}: lspci -vvnn | grep -i Wireless -A11
[17:25] <Zephyr[D]{P}> ty, I found it already, though
[17:25] <budmang> Hey guys I have 2 nics, both in the same switch(different ips) only one NIC has a gateway... the 2nd nic doesnt seem to fully work.. I can only ping it from the gateway.. no other machines etc..
[17:26] <Fuzzles> how can i edit an iso before putting it on a usb bootable?
[17:27] <theadmin> Fuzzles: Why do you think you need to edit it?
[17:28] <caterina> ciao
[17:28] <caterina> !list
[17:28] <Fuzzles> theadmin, because its a windows 7 disk and i need to delete the ei.cfg file to show all versions so i can install starter on a netbook via usb
[17:28] <theadmin> Fuzzles: ...That's illegal you know.
[17:29] <mnbr> sny2 know how to get claok?
[17:29] <Fuzzles> theadmin, not if i own the laptop with a windows start key, needs a reinstall
[17:29] <mnbr> any1
[17:29] <Dr_willis> !cloak | mnaser
[17:29] <theadmin> mnbr: #freenode
[17:29] <Dr_willis> !leet | mnbr
[17:30] <theadmin> wut.
[17:30] <Fuzzles> theadmin, no other way to get starter as no disc exists
[17:30] <testest> Hi!
[17:30] <theadmin> Fuzzles: Ah, well. Okay, I have no idea if the ISO will remain bootable after such a mess, but you can open it with, say, file-roller and edit it that way.
[17:30] <EvanCarr1ll> Fuzzles: try mounting the iso, modifying it, and then rerunning genisoimage
[17:30] <clefebvre_> Fuzzles: just mount the iso, copy the content
[17:30] <clefebvre_> ^^+1 @ EvanCarr1ll
[17:31] <theadmin> EvanCarr1ll: ISOs can only be mounted read-only due to the filesystem design, can't modify them that way...
[17:31] <Dr_willis> !info kiso
[17:31] <theadmin> Well, unless you do copy the content. But then the boot sector shall be gone
[17:31] <Dr_willis> Hmm. used tobe a tool that let you modify then put changed back.. not seen it in ages
[17:31] <Fuzzles> theadmin, it wont change to read and write so cant delete the file
[17:32] <theadmin> Dr_willis: pretty much any archiver can do that nowadays
[17:32] <SunilJoshi> savio: ok thanks!!
[17:32] <Fuzzles> EvanCarr1ll, sorry?
[17:35] <Fuzzles> theadmin, so how do i change it from readonly to read and write becasue it wont let me?
[17:35] <budmang> http://pastebin.com/SwkDamU4 - help :) on the vpn etc.. I cant seem to get to eth1
[17:35] <santosh> How can I make a debian package for my python script?
[17:36] <mnbr> simply covert script to executable file
[17:36] <testest> :-D
[17:36] <mnbr> santosh bhai
[17:36] <santosh> mnbr: I want a .deb file though..
[17:37] <Dr_willis> You dont have to make it a executable file to make a .deb
[17:37] <testest> .deb file with python?
[17:37] <Dr_willis> but making a proper .deb is a bit of a learning experience
[17:37] <clefebvre_> santosh: the easiest way is to take an existing package and modify it
[17:37] <testest> Yeah?
[17:37] <Dr_willis> a .deb can install python stuff.. yes
[17:37] <mnbr> y need .deb file
[17:37] <Dr_willis> !apt
[17:37] <mnbr> it u can make executable fiel :D
[17:37] <testest> !use-google
[17:38] <testest> :-X
[17:38] <Dr_willis> !u | mnaser
[17:38] <Dr_willis> oops ;) wrong nick. heh
[17:39] <testest> :-)
[17:39] <testest> I am a bot sry for me
[17:39] <ikonia> testest: ask your bot to /part the channel
[17:39] <testest> Cain i help anyone?
[17:40] <testest> :mhm
[17:40] <ikonia> testest: are you running a bot yes/no
[17:40] <ikonia> testest: are you running a bot yes/no
[17:41] <testest> But which bot?
[17:41] <dotblank> Hey guys I'm performing a live migration of my /home to another hardrive
[17:42] <dotblank> I want to delete the old contents
[17:42] <ikonia> testest: I'll ask one more time, are you running a talking bot in this channel, yes/no
[17:42] <dotblank> how can I do that?
[17:42] <ikonia> dotblank: just delete the directory
[17:42] <ikonia> dotblank: (the old one)
[17:42] <dotblank> yea, but... I'm logged in
[17:42] <dotblank> and if I delete /home with x running
[17:42] <dotblank> note Live
[17:42] <testest> ikonia are you a admin?
[17:43] <Nephro> Hi there, I've got a problem. The package manager tripped up due to insufficient disk space, and I can't even uninstall anything because it is locked or smth. It tells me how to unlock it, but there is not enough space to run dpkg fix
[17:43] <ejv> logout, drop to tty0, login as root, purge /home, mount new /home, done
[17:43] <ikonia> dotblank: so either a.) change your home dir to a different location log out/in and delete it, or do it from a live media
[17:43] <ikonia> testest: yes.
[17:43] <dotblank> ejv: I would do that but I'm kinda doing this over the phone
[17:43] <dotblank> :(
[17:43] <dotblank> and over a VNC
[17:43] <testest> No
[17:44] <ejv> good luck
[17:44] <ikonia> testest: thank you
[17:44] <testest> I don`t running bot
[17:44] <testest> I use bot but only for log
[17:44] <xangua> ...
[17:44] <ejv> im actually a turing complete bot, highly creative.
[17:44] <testest> file
[17:45] <testest> :-D
[17:45] <ikonia> testest: as long as it doesn't speak, that's fine
[17:45] <dotblank> Ok, what happens if I boot up with an fstab setting /home but it already has contects on root
[17:45] <testest> :-)
[17:45] <testest> uff
[17:45] <dotblank> mount would complain at run time but is fstab different
[17:45] <testest> wait i googleit
[17:46] <ejv> you can login without /home mounted, it will just complain at you and drop you to /
[17:46] <testest> Ah! ejv I want to said that!
[17:51] <seeqwell> I LOVE IT!!!!
[17:52] <testest> ???
[17:52] <testest> seeqwell: ?
[17:52] <testest> seeqwell: Who/What you love?
[17:52] <seeqwell> linux
[17:53] <testest> I know :-X
[17:53] <testest> I love this toooooo
[17:53] <seeqwell> I just got 12.10 b/c my motherboard was borqued and ram wouldn't load 12.10
[17:55] <testest> Bot2HelpYou: I like linux!
[17:55] <Bot2HelpYou>  i/NN like/IN linux/NN  (-1)
[17:55] <testest> Yeah! Its works!
[17:57] <testest> Hey people any one have Ai bot who use brown corpus? I need algorithm to reply users...
[17:58] <nikrep> ??
[17:58] <xkernel> can anyone please pastebin the default /etc/hosts in Ubuntu 12.10
[17:58] <IdleOne> Bot2HelpYou: test
[17:58] <Bot2HelpYou>  test/NN  (0)
[17:58] <IdleOne> testest: Please use ##test to play with your bot
[18:00] <testest> IdleOne my bot cant speak! He learn english in #ubuntu irc by logs files
[18:00] <ikonia> testest: could you join #ubuntu-ops please.
[18:00] <testest> ... ok
[18:04] <zatan> hey how can I set run cronjob
[18:04] <zatan> 18:30 ?
[18:05] <NastyNaz> I'm looking for a music server that can be controlled from terminal. It was recommended to me but I've forgotten the name.
[18:06] <syntroPi> How would i extract "PE32 executable for MS Windows (DLL) (console) Intel 80386 32-bit" on console? file-roller can do it...
[18:06] <theadmin> syntroPi: Might use cabextract. Not sure if that'll work for all of them, but I suppose.
[18:06] <theadmin> NastyNaz: mpd, by any chance?
[18:07] <syntroPi> theadmin, its PE32 not cabinet. kinda lharc or such
[18:08] <syntroPi> lha complains "LHa: Warning: Checksum error (LHarc file?) "
[18:08] <cloudgeek> i type in my bash
[18:08] <cloudgeek> mail
[18:09] <cloudgeek> it showing me 6 mail failed to deliver
[18:09] <cloudgeek> what i need to do!
[18:09] <cloudgeek> join #ubuntu-server
[18:10] <liquidmetal> does anyone here run aoe on wine?
[18:10] <liquidmetal> AoE II: Conquerers
[18:10] <theadmin> liquidmetal: You'd have to ask in #winehq
[18:10] <liquidmetal> ah!
[18:12] <theadmin> I know this isn't the place, but where could I ask questions about an Ubuntu membership? I know the board holds meetings in #ubuntu-meeting, but I'm not ready to apply yet, just need to ask some, well, questions.
[18:12] <ph1rmw4r3> hey guys, i have an idea, how about we release a version where the flash actually works out of the box.
[18:12] <NastyNaz> theadmin: Thanks! It was mpd
[18:13] <theadmin> ph1rmw4r3: Flash works out of the box in Ubuntu if you marked it in the installer
[18:13] <ph1rmw4r3> ah, well i installed it with the mini.iso
[18:13] <ph1rmw4r3> so now i have to enable some repo right?
[18:14] <theadmin> ph1rmw4r3: I think it's in Universe which is enabled by default... You just need to "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer"
[18:14] <ph1rmw4r3> copypase
[18:14] <subthalamus> ph1rmw4r3: isn't that what mint is for? :P
[18:15] <ph1rmw4r3> eh never really messed that much with  mint, how dose it handle packages, rpm?
[18:15] <theadmin> subthalamus: Please refrain from suggesting unsupported Ubuntu derivatives in this channel, thanks.
[18:16] <subthalamus> theadmin: yessir, wasn't suggesting it, more of a good natured stab at it really
[18:16] <Nephro> Hello. How do I uninstall a program which was compiled and installed from source, rather than apt-get
[18:16] <lopez> http://pastebin.com/6nNGyGhb
[18:16] <lopez> samba problems
[18:16] <ph1rmw4r3> yeah if your going to sugest anything but ubuntu it has to be slackware
[18:16] <sw> Nephro: does it come with an uninstall script? if not, remove every file manually
[18:16] <ph1rmw4r3> ok i did the sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[18:16] <seyfarth> anyone have any luck getting Exchange 2010 email working with evolution or thunderbird, and not just using POP3?
[18:16] <ph1rmw4r3> now im good to go yes?
[18:17] <Nephro> sw, not sure... All I know, that the programm installed from source overrides one I install from apt-get, and I don't know how to start the proper one
[18:17] <ph1rmw4r3> i can watch videos on internet yes?
[18:17] <axisys> what ubuntu pkg am I missing? http://bpaste.net/show/ig5t49XSgRXwH0WJA9Xw/
[18:17] <fruitwerks> does anyone know if I can run 12.04 with a 2.6.3 kernel?
[18:17] <sw> Nephro: have a look, then
[18:18] <sw> seyfarth: DavMail?
[18:18] <theadmin> subthalamus: Well, it's no problem. It's just that in the end when people suggest those the channel ends up full of people asking for help with them, which is quite against the rules.
[18:19] <seyfarth> sw: looking into it - thanks!
[18:19] <ioria> Nephro: you can try with 'make unistall'
[18:20] <Cub> is there a way to make a shortcut key for terminal (ubuntu 12.10 | Gnome-shell) ?
[18:20] <subthalamus> theadmin: understood
[18:20] <subthalamus> theadmin: please don't ban me again
[18:20] <Dr_willis> I thought gnome-shell had alt-ctrl-t for terminal same as unity
[18:20] <theadmin> subthalamus: I never banned you, infact I don't have the priveleges to do so
[18:20] <y2j> is there a ios6/apple channel
[18:20] <subthalamus> :P
[18:20] <Dr_willis> !alis | y2j
[18:21] <mnbr> ubuntu 12.04 can be installed inside windows through daemon tools?
[18:21] <Dr_willis> mnbr,  no need for daemon tools.. the wubi installer can read the iso file
[18:21] <Dr_willis> !wubi
[18:21] <mnbr> i have installed 11.10
[18:22] <mnbr> but getting error in 12.04
[18:22] <mnbr> and 12.10
[18:22] <subthalamus> Nephro: specifically which software are we talking about?
[18:22] <Dr_willis> https://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/CheatSheet    for you cub
[18:22] <Dr_willis> mnbr,  and the error is?
[18:22] <Cub> okay ty Dr_willis  :)
[18:23] <Dr_willis> I dont use wubi.. i dont reccomend using wubi.. i reccomend running as far away from wubi as you can....
[18:23] <ph1rmw4r3> hey guys thanks my flash is working now, im shure i will be back
[18:26] <subthalamus> phunyguy: what if there are women?
[18:26] <subthalamus> oops ph1rmw4r3 left quick
[18:26] <subthalamus> sorry phunyguy
[18:27] <subthalamus> Dr_willis: I tend to agree, that whole running an OS in a file thing is ugly
[18:28] <phunyguy> o.O
[18:28] <Cub> i assigned terminal f9... as a shortcut, hopefully i won't need this key anytime soon..
[18:28] <Cub> lol
[18:29] <phunyguy> subthalamus, that's what you get for trying to make !ot comments
[18:29] <theadmin> Cub: I suggest using a keycombo instead, such as Ctrl-Alt-T. That's the default by the way, what's wrong with it?
[18:29] <liquidmetal> anyone here who's got internet into wine? Can you join #winehq?
[18:29] <ikonia> internet into wine ?
[18:30] <ikonia> wine is an abstraction layer
[18:30] <Hwkiller> wine works fine with networking afiak
[18:30] <Hwkiller> afaik*
[18:30] <theadmin> ikonia: (anyone here who's got internet) (into wine) :P. As in, he's asking if anyone here knows how to deal with WINE issues.
[18:30] <Cub> too bad there isn't a show desktop icon this
[18:30] <theadmin> ikonia: The mighty confusions of English language.
[18:30] <ikonia> theadmin: thank you
[18:31] <histo> Cub: alt+tab
[18:31] <Hwkiller> the mighty confusions of poor grammar
[18:31] <Cub> alt tab just shows the programs
[18:31] <Cub> doesnt minimize all and show the desktop
[18:31] <histo> Cub: ctrl+super+d
[18:32] <histo> Cub: There is a show desktop item when using alt tab here.
[18:33] <Dr_willis> Cub,  gnome-shell has numerous extensions to change things
[18:34] <Dr_willis> not sure why you really need a show desktop item these days ;)
[18:35] <Cub> because i like to see the hot girls wallpaper on my desktop from time to time :P
[18:36] <Cub> i'll try the extentions later on
[18:36] <Cub> extensions*
[18:38] <MEGASHAREUPLOAD> §@v@§
[18:38] <Ramtron> Hey! I'm trying to install this program, Unetbootin/494 on Linux, I marked it as executable but it still won't install
[18:38] <tqrst> can anyone recommend an alternative to rxvt-unicode that is as fast and supports xft fonts? I don't care about tabs or transparency. (the reason behind my asking this is that urxvt apparently uses non standard key codes for the F keys, which messes with my vim bindings amongst other things)
[18:39] <shadoqflww> is there a way to reset my openssh server config files to default in the /etc/ssh ?
[18:39] <theadmin> Ramtron: Unetbootin is in the repositories, you can just use the Software Centre or "sudo apt-get install unetbootin". Or click this: http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/unetbootin
[18:40] <Ramtron> Yeah but that's a new version
[18:40] <Ramtron> I need v494
[18:40] <theadmin> Ramtron: Oh, why is that?
[18:40] <Ramtron> to supposrt NFTS files
[18:40] <Ramtron> I'm trying to make a bootable flash drive for windows 7
[18:40] <Ramtron> Unless you have a better way
[18:40] <theadmin> Ramtron: There's a better way for that. Please see http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/tool-to-create-windows-usb-install.html
[18:41] <Ramtron> Thanks I'll read that and come back
[18:41] <shadoqflww> i would just use wine and the universal usb installer
[18:42] <shadoqflww> it works for me perty well
[18:42] <Ramtron> eh i want the easiest way possible
[18:42] <Dr_willis> i belive you can dd the windows iso for newer versions to usb and they will boot
[18:42] <Ramtron> I'll never use ubuntu again
[18:42] <Dr_willis> go ask in #windows for the reccomend tools perhaps
[18:42] <Ramtron> dd? the only thing is I need an NFTS file
[18:42] <Ramtron> winUSB will work I'm sure
[18:42] <invariant> How can I get all the ATTRS displayed for a given device file?
[18:42] <Dr_willis> No idea what you mean by a nfts file.
[18:42] <Ramtron> I'm sorry NFTS format
[18:42] <Ramtron> not file
[18:43] <Dr_willis> Huh?
[18:43] <tqrst> Ramtron: do you mean NTFS? And even then, what?
[18:43] <shadoqflww> is there a way to reset my openssh server config files to default in the /etc/ssh
[18:43] <Dr_willis> :)
[18:43] <Ramtron> Who knows what I mean hahah
[18:43] <Ramtron> to boot windows 7 from flash drive
[18:43] <Dr_willis> shadoqflww,  purge/reinstall the config files.
[18:43] <Dr_willis> you still have to put the ISO  on the usb
[18:44] <invariant> Ramtron, asking for Windows goals in a Linux channel is a bad idea.
[18:44] <Ramtron> Lol
[18:44] <invariant> Ramtron, mostly because lots of people don't even use Windows anymore.
[18:44] <Ramtron> I dunno how you guys can handle using ubuntu
[18:44] <Dr_willis> if you mean you need for format the USB to be NTFS - thats not to hard to do
[18:44] <Ramtron> I find myself having so many problems
[18:44] <guideX> using the built in rdp in ubuntu 12.10, I keep getting this message from rdp client "Your computer could not connect to another console session on the remote computer because you already have a console session in progress"
[18:44] <invariant> Ramtron, Linux users want to use a real computer.
[18:44] <Ramtron> Yeah I formatted it already but the program doesn't read NTFS
[18:45] <invariant> Ramtron, you just want a consumer OS.
[18:45] <Ramtron> Meh, I want Arch linux actually
[18:45] <Dr_willis> im suprised unetbootin even works to make a windows thing
[18:45] <_methods> hahahahah
[18:45] <invariant> Ramtron, that's mostly the difference.
[18:45] <Ramtron> ubuntu 12.04 sucks
[18:45] <Ramtron> Dr_willis that's the problem, it doesn't work
[18:45] <_methods> if ubuntu seems difficult to you arch will be ..............
[18:45] <Ramtron> duh, ubuntu isn't difficult
[18:45] <Ramtron> it's shitty
[18:46] <Ramtron> I should've created a SWAP partition as well
[18:46] <xangua> !language | Ramtron
[18:46] <Ramtron> my own fault but it's still obnoxious
[18:46] <invariant> Ramtron, it has many problems indeed.
[18:46] <Dr_willis> as i said,.. you can use dd to put the iso file on the USB i belive.. and it will be a bootable  windows installer.. but you may want to double check in #windows
[18:46] <guideX> in what way ramtron?
[18:46] <l057c0d3r> Ramtron, there is nothing wrong with ubuntu its great...  its just the desktop environment that isnt the greatest
[18:46] <invariant> Ramtron, you can create swap files.
[18:46] <Ramtron> I like cinnamon
[18:46] <l057c0d3r> the kernel and apt are great
[18:46] <invariant> Ramtron, you don't need swap partitions.
[18:46] <invariant> Ramtron, but you already know everything, right?!!
[18:46] <cloudgeek> how i can
[18:46] <Ramtron> eh not really, just some things
[18:46] <cloudgeek> mail in ubuntu
[18:47] <Ramtron> i mostly hate ubuntu cause skype sucks on it
[18:47] <cloudgeek> mail command line
[18:47] <invariant> Ramtron, please consider that you know absolutely nothing about computing before saying anything else.
[18:47] <guideX> skype sucks everywhere :)
[18:47] <Ramtron> i'm tryna get ladies naked and can't do that via ubuntu :(
[18:47] <Ramtron> windows it's good
[18:47] <guideX> skype is far worse on my windows phone
[18:47] <Ramtron> i can imagine
[18:47] <l057c0d3r> skype works great for me
[18:47] <guideX> I have to be in it to recieve a message D:
[18:47] <guideX> on windows phone
[18:47] <phunyguy> this is so !ot...
[18:47] <phunyguy> !ot
[18:47] <guideX> making it TOTALLY worthless
[18:47] <invariant> Ramtron, please do not reproduce.
[18:47] <Ramtron> Well I'ma try booting this flash drive
[18:47] <tqrst> what is this, youtube comments section?
[18:48] <Ramtron> thanks guys
[18:48] <Ramtron> i'm gonna reproduce 37 times just for you
[18:48] <Justpassing> hello people
[18:48] <phunyguy> GUYS.  Please.  Stay on topic.
[18:48] <Justpassing> i just started to use ubuntu 12.10
[18:48] <Ramtron> Quit while you're ahead
[18:48] <l057c0d3r> ok so i know how to move around files and copy files ext ext...
[18:48] <Arrick> hey all...
[18:48] <Ramtron> ubuntu 12.10 is retarded
[18:48] <Justpassing> and i have a problem with 12.10
[18:48] <Justpassing> wine
[18:48] <phunyguy> Ramtron, I won't ask again.
[18:49] <Ramtron> chill out
[18:49] <Dr_willis> people who say things are retarted.. are.. well... not worth responding to.
[18:49] <Ramtron> it's a topic
[18:49] <guideX> Ramtron, I wouldn't say it's retarded. Once you force yourself to use it, you start to like it
[18:49] <subthalamus> so much wine talk
[18:49] <Ramtron> i've forced myself
[18:49] <guideX> at least that's how it happened with me
[18:49] <xangua> !ot | Ramtron guideX
[18:49] <Ramtron> i had to use it for 7 months
[18:49] <Ramtron> idk why you typed that
[18:49] <Ramtron> lol
[18:49] <Justpassing> I want to install apps and use ubuntu like a real os.
[18:49] <guideX> I was helping him with his experience with ubuntu, and describing mine
[18:49] <Arrick> I am wondering... its been a long time since I've played with anything ubuntu related... currently I have the OS installed on a raid0 configuration, and I have a raid 5 config for data... but I cant for the life of me remember how to setup the volume on the raid 5 with a console session.
[18:49] <shadoqflww> thank you so mutch Dr_willis
[18:49] <guideX> nothing off topic about that
[18:49] <l057c0d3r> but i was wondering.. in terminal.. i have a folder in my home directory with tons of sub directories and folder.. i want to move the whole directory and everything in it to my /host/storage directory how would i do this
[18:49] <Ramtron> nothin'
[18:49] <Dr_willis> Justpassing,  Wine is not guarenteed to work.. what are you trying to use wine with?
[18:50] <invariant> invariant, thanks for your help!
[18:50] <invariant> invariant, I need to help myself all the time. np!
[18:50] <_methods> !mdadm
[18:50] <l057c0d3r> maybe mv -r ~/files/* /host/storage/*
[18:50] <Gunrun>  /j #ubuntu-steam
[18:50] <Justpassing> i use ubuntu software center for download
[18:50] <Gunrun> argh
[18:50] <Justpassing> and it says me the package ....
[18:50] <Justpassing> i try it on the terminal too.
[18:51] <invariant> !enter
[18:51] <Dr_willis> Justpassing,  you really should telling us some details.. so far you havent said much of anything other then you are trying to use wine.. and having some sort of issue....
[18:51] <_methods> Arrick: did you set up your array with mdadm?
[18:52] <Arrick> _methods, nope, I setup the array with the raid controller.
[18:52] <_methods> oh
[18:52] <Arrick> it sees the two volumes.
[18:52] <Arrick> I just cant remember how to see the second volume to format it, etc.
[18:52] <Myrtti> phunyguy: in general it helps a lot if you tell who you think is the troublemaker...
[18:52] <Justpassing> Dr.willis i am sorry i forget the main issue.I want to install wine
[18:52] <invariant> I don't know, but if people still say that Linux isn't popular with such low content questions, then I fear the worst for humanity.
[18:53] <phunyguy> Myrtti, sorry, Ramtron was trollin'
[18:53] <guideX> oic
[18:53] <Ramtron> Not really..
[18:53] <Justpassing> and it gives me a package problem.When i tried to use commands "upgrade" and "update" it gives me this reports:Paket listeleri okunuyor... Bitti Bağımlılık ağacı inşa ediliyor.        Durum bilgisi okunuyor... Bitti        Yükseltilen: 0, Yeni Kurulan: 0, Kaldırılacak: 0 ve Yükseltilmeyecek: 0. N: Ignoring file 'private-ppa.launchpad.net_commercial-ppa-uploaders_motorbike_ubuntu.list.save' in directory '/etc/apt/source
[18:53] <Ramtron> I was simply explaining the situations
[18:53] <Dr_willis> yes really.. time to move on
[18:53] <phunyguy> I'll let you explain.
[18:53] <guideX> my appologies for not catching on, I will now stop being ot :>
[18:53] <Ramtron> I'm too lazy to explain
[18:53] <phunyguy> and there you have it.
[18:54] <histo> Justpassing: Looks like that ppa is down
[18:54] <Justpassing> It's the first time i use ubuntu dude...In Turkey,they think using windows is like a using apollo
[18:54] <dotblank> wow
[18:54] <dotblank> running out of disk space on linux is bad news
[18:54] <histo> Justpassing: Did you add a ppa for some reason?
[18:54] <Justpassing> what can i do for fix histo
[18:54] <histo> dotblank: yeap
[18:55] <dotblank> everything just combusts into fire
[18:55] <Justpassing> yes,i add the wine ppa but after i delete it
[18:55] <dotblank> I had to aufs a ramfs on top
[18:55] <Dr_willis> !ppa-purge
[18:55] <allan_> Hello everyone! I had a question, has anyone used the program Cmus? I am having some issues getting the sound to work. I compiled the most recent version and got it loaded, but I'm getting errors about the plugins don't exist.
[18:55] <dotblank> so I could uninstall packages
[18:55] <dotblank> then I had to snap merge
[18:55] <histo> !ppa-purge | Justpassing
[18:56] <histo> Justpassing: After you remove the ppa just sudo apt-get install wine
[18:56] <phunyguy> Myrtti, Ramtron, the issue was the last 20 lines or so of off-topic chat, with complete disregard for the !ot hints, and calling ubuntu retarded... talking about naked ladies, etc.
[18:56] <jilebedev> Hello - can anyone point me to a howto or article on hotswapping SATA hard drives on Ubuntu 10.04?
[18:56] <Ramtron> Mind dropping it?
[18:56] <phunyguy> for the record.
[18:56] <Ramtron> No use in continuing that subject.
[18:56] <Myrtti> phunyguy: you could have told all that where you did your first report. But moving on.
[18:57] <Justpassing> allright, i will check the page and after if the problem solves i will came to thanks people,thanks for the ubuntu philosophy :)
[18:57] <phunyguy> Myrtti, I apologie, just wanted to drop a quick hint.
[18:57] <jhutchins_wk> Justpassing: If you run the command by doing LANG=C <command> the error message will be in English and us stupid Americans will understand it.
[18:58] <keops> Hi I'm looking for a tool that can replace Xtremsplit (cause it doesn't actually work on ubuntu). I prefer command line but gui is also nice ;-)
[18:58] <MonkeyDust> keops  what is extremesplit?
[18:58] <Dr_willis> assume no one in here knows what Xtremsplit does.... ;)
[18:58] <phunyguy> keops, what does it do?
[18:58] <histo> jilebedev: hot swapping is not os dependant
 in the first sentences there wasn't a error and i dont want to translate it to the english
[18:59] <Justpassing> problem?
[18:59] <keops> MonkeyDust, phunyguy : it cuts big files into little ones.
[18:59] <jhutchins_wk> jilebedev: Not much to it.  Unmount before removing, mount when needed.
[19:00] <phunyguy> !info splitdiff | keops
[19:00] <MonkeyDust> keops  i guess linux has base64 or so
[19:00] <phunyguy> hrmmm
[19:00] <jilebedev> histo: jhutchins_wk much obliged for your comments. The trouble is - I've inserted a new SATA HDD, and fdisk -l doesn't list it. I'm not sure how to proceed, so I'm looking for a writeup
[19:00] <phunyguy> man splitdiff, see if it is what you need, keops
[19:00] <histo> keops: there are many ways you could accomplish this.
[19:00] <jhutchins_wk> jilebedev: Look in dmesg.
[19:00] <guideX> for some reason, I can't connect to rdp to my ubuntu 12.10. I've setup the remote desktop, but clicking the ? and clicking setup, and adding my "remote desktop", but in the end I cannot connect, can someone help me?
[19:00] <TheDracle> How do I disable automount of USB devices in Ubuntu 12.10?
[19:01] <jhutchins_wk> jilebedev: I seem to recall that it helps if there is a drive on that port when the system boots so that the BIOS activates it.  After that you can swap all you want.
[19:01] <jilebedev> jhutchins_wk: dmesg is filled with all kinds of spam - the new drive isn't mounted, partitioned, or formatted: you think it's safe to just unplug it, start following syslog, and then physically plug it in?
[19:01] <histo> keops: the split command is one way
[19:01] <keops> histo: natively with bash ?
[19:01] <Justpassing> Oh, it gives me the same error again.Is there a command i can launch on the terminal to take a result?
[19:01] <xangua> TheDracle: only usb or any device conected¿
[19:01] <jhutchins_wk> jilebedev: That kind of info isn't likely to show up in the syslog.
[19:02] <Dr_willis> Justpassing,  sudo apt-get install packagename
[19:02] <histo> keops: Don't know what you mean be natively. But you may want to look into the split command. It's default in uubntu
[19:02] <jilebedev> jhutchins_wk: Can I "tail -F" the output of dmesg? Is there a logfile I can follow?
[19:02] <jhutchins_wk> jilebedev: That "spam" in dmesg can be very useful if you're troubleshooting things at the OS leve.
[19:02] <keops> histo: I mean without installing something. It'd come with buntu
[19:03] <Justpassing> N: Ignoring file 'private-ppa.launchpad.net_commercial-ppa-uploaders_motorbike_ubuntu.list.save' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension N: Ignoring file 'ubuntu-wine-ppa-quantal.list.save' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension N: Ignoring file 'tehnick-tehnick-quantal.list.save' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename
[19:03] <histo> TheDracle: http://ubuntuportal.com/2012/07/quick-tips-easy-way-to-disable-auto-mount-on-ubuntu-12-04-lts.html
[19:03] <histo> keops: yeah split is built in
[19:03] <beatmasher> helo....can someone please help me with wireless drivers for compaq nx6125?
[19:03] <beatmasher> i am using ubuntu 10.10
[19:03] <histo> !wifi | beatmasher
[19:03] <sunsetlover> guys, how can i update the packages in ubuntu
[19:04] <histo> beatmasher: do you know what chipset it is?
[19:04] <auronandace> !10.10 | beatmasher
[19:04] <histo> sunsetlover: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:04] <Dr_willis> sunsetlover,  sudo apt-get update
[19:04] <jhutchins_wk> Justpassing: watch "dmesg |tail -15"
[19:04] <Dr_willis> :)
[19:04] <keops> but which one is preferable ? split or splitdiff ?
[19:05] <histo> Justpassing: go to your /etc/apt/sources.list.d/   directory
[19:05] <jhutchins_wk> Justpassing: So clean up your sources.
[19:05] <histo> Justpassing: and remove the oones you added.  Then sudo apt-get update
[19:05] <histo> keops: I'm not familiar with splitdiff
[19:05] <Justpassing> histo when i try to clean them,it wont gives me authorization
[19:06] <Dr_willis> !sudo | Justpassing
[19:06] <keops> Ok fine. Tanks all.
[19:07] <histo> !bcm | beatmasher
[19:08] <histo> !bcm > beatmasher
[19:08] <Justpassing> people i just want to delete the broken files in the sources.list.d how can i do it?
[19:08] <Ramtron> By pressing ESC we can choose which partition to install an OS on, yeah?
[19:08] <Ramtron> on startup
[19:09] <Dr_willis> Justpassing,  you remove or comment out the offending lines..  you must use sudo/root rights to alter the file
[19:09] <phunyguy> Ramtron, press escape at which point?
[19:09] <Ramtron> Right at the beginning, pressing esc chooses boot devices
[19:09] <Dr_willis> Justpassing,  or find an original copy of the sources.list file from some site and use it.
[19:09] <Ramtron> for my Asus anyway
[19:09] <l057c0d3r> heh never mind i figured it out on my own.
[19:09] <phunyguy> Ramtron, that is correct for selecting which device to boot from, not install on.
[19:10] <Ramtron> hmmm, if I choose a blank partition for boot device, would it install on it?
[19:10] <Dr_willis> Justpassing,  also there can be ppas in /etc/apt/sources.list.d that can cause issues.. you can just move those files to some Backup dir to disable the ppas
[19:10] <cloudgeek> i am sending mail using a mail command but it is undeliverd
[19:10] <phunyguy> no, Ramtron
[19:10] <cloudgeek> can anybody help me
[19:10] <Ramtron> Greeeaaat
[19:10] <phunyguy> Ramtron, it will try to boot from said blank partition, which wont work.
[19:11] <phunyguy> where do you have your ubuntu live environment, Ramtron?
[19:11] <phunyguy> CD or USB?
[19:11] <Ramtron> At the end of the partition on my HDD
[19:11] <Justpassing> @Dr_willis my friend i am really noob at this os.can you give me a command i can use on terminal?
[19:11] <Ramtron> Oh, uhh I dunno what you mean
[19:11] <Justpassing> to delete those files
[19:11]  * phunyguy is confused
[19:11] <histo> Justpassing: sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[19:11] <Ramtron> Me too
[19:11] <phunyguy> Ramtron, are you currently in the middle of an install, or are you trying to start the install?
[19:11] <Dr_willis> Justpassing,  not really...  if this is confuseing to you.. i have to wonder How you added them in the first place..
[19:11] <l057c0d3r> Justpassing, rm (filename)
[19:12] <Ramtron> Right now I'm in the process of making the bootable flash drive
[19:12] <Dr_willis> Justpassing,  it would be worth the time to spend an hr reading up on a few bash tutorials..
[19:12] <Ramtron> with windows 7 on it
[19:12] <histo> Dr_willis: copy and pasting from links most likely
[19:12] <Ramtron> nearly done
[19:12] <histo> Justpassing: after you use my command sudo apt-get update
[19:12] <phunyguy> Ramtron, so you are asking for help creating a windows 7 flash drive?
[19:12] <Ramtron> No
[19:12] <phunyguy> *sigh*
[19:12] <Ramtron> Asking help on booting it I guess haha
[19:12] <phunyguy> what does this have to do with ubuntu, Ramtron?
[19:12] <histo> Ramtron: Are you install windows after ubuntu?
[19:13] <Ramtron> yes
[19:13] <Dr_willis> histo,  yep.  and im not going to  spend hrs again  trying to explain concepts like working directory   again. ;)
[19:13] <Ramtron> I already have ubuntu on my other partition
[19:13] <Dr_willis> histo,  did enough of that last week.
[19:13] <histo> !dualboot | Ramtron
[19:13] <histo> Dr_willis: lol
[19:13] <Ramtron> Shall give it a read, thanks.
[19:13] <Dr_willis> histo,   You know exactly what im talking about ;)
[19:14] <Ramtron> Would it be easiest to install windows on the entire hdd then install ubuntu afterwards on a different partition?
[19:14] <kovu> i need help to install the latest version of java please
[19:14] <Dr_willis> took 10 min the other day for the idea of a 'space' beteen a command and a --option to get through to some people..
[19:14] <Dr_willis> !java |  kovu
[19:15] <kovu> i need help to install jre on a ubuntu 12.10
[19:15] <histo> Ramtron: yes but it can be done either way
[19:15] <Justpassing> sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[19:15] <Justpassing> isudo: rm/etc/apt/sources.list.d: command not found
[19:16] <phunyguy> Ramtron, Ubuntu may handle the dual-boot portion better
[19:16] <kovu> i have downloaded the packege but i do not know the command to installl it on my system
[19:16] <Ramtron> Thought so as well
[19:16] <histo> Ramtron: If you install windows first then ubuntu second. When ubuntu installs grub it will just work without any configuration on your part.  When you install windows second you blew out your grub files from linux. So now you'd have ot reinstall grub etc...
[19:16] <Justpassing> oh
[19:16] <Justpassing> huh
[19:16] <Justpassing> i did it
[19:16] <histo> Ramtron: Windows doesn't give you the option to leave the mbr alone.
[19:16] <Justpassing> :D
[19:16] <Justpassing> finally
[19:16] <FloodBot1> Justpassing: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:16] <Ramtron> Idk, I'll give this a shot, but I'm sure it won't work. I'll just reformat my hdd again
[19:17] <xkernel> what is Rendezvous?
[19:17] <Justpassing> pardons
[19:17] <histo> !manual | Justpassing
[19:17] <Ramtron> thanks guys
[19:17] <phunyguy> Ramtron, have fun.
[19:17] <Ramtron> Oh I will ;)
[19:17] <Fuzzles> How can i edit a iso in ubuntu ?
[19:17] <alexb_> if i am dual booting ubuntu and windows will ubuntu run faster if i just have it installed?
[19:17] <Arrick> how do i set permission for the apache2 user to be able to access a directory outside of the /var/www directory? (and tell what user apache2 is using?)
[19:17] <xkernel> ubottu, rendezvous
[19:17] <histo> Fuzzles: you can mount it extract the files and create a new iso
[19:18] <Fuzzles> histo, how?
[19:18] <histo> Fuzzles: double click the iso
[19:18] <xkernel> !ubottu | rendezvous
[19:18] <Fuzzles> histo, ye
[19:18] <kicklighter> hello people how do i rezise my virtual windows xp in ubuntu any help please...
[19:19] <Physicist> Greetings! Later I have upgraded the kernel of Ubuntu 12.10, my 3G modem is not recognized by my the assistent. Any device?
[19:19] <phunyguy> Fuzzles, see #2 in this link for making the new ISO
[19:19] <phunyguy> http://tuxarena.blogspot.com/2009/03/4-ways-to-create-cddvd-iso-images-in.html
[19:19] <kovu> i need help to install the latest version of java for my ubuntu 12.10 i have the download i just need the commmands to make it work
[19:20] <Physicist> Greetings! Later I have upgraded the kernel of Ubuntu 12.10, my 3G modem is not recognized by the assistent. Any device?
[19:20] <phunyguy> !java | kovu
[19:20] <Fuzzles> phunyguy, thanks ill take a look
[19:21] <tqrst> when using git-svn, I get "Can't locate SVN/Core.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/share/perl/5.14.2 /home/foobar/local/lib/perl/5.10.0/ /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.14.2 /usr/local/share/perl/5.14.2 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.14 /usr/share/perl/5.14 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/lib/git-core/git-svn line 41."  but libsvn-perl is installed. What gives?
[19:21] <histo> Physicist: have you tried booting the older kernel?
[19:21] <Arrick> ! which user
[19:21] <SonikkuAmerica> !git
[19:21] <tqrst> it seems like libsvn-perl put everything in perl/5.10.1 instead of 5.14.2 even though $(perl --version) is 5.14.2. Wha?
[19:22] <ejv> tqrst: try #perl
[19:22] <ioria> kovu: what are you trying to do  ?
[19:22] <tqrst> ejv: this seems to be due to ubuntu packaging, not perl
[19:22] <TomyLobo> ejv sounds like he's talking about a ubuntu package
[19:22] <Physicist> histo, how can I do that! Note: The upgrade was a suggest of the system.
[19:22] <SonikkuAmerica> tqrst: I would suggest using Ubuntu Tweak at least, to get rid of the old Perl library, if that doesn't work, head for #perl.
[19:23] <SonikkuAmerica> !perl
[19:23] <alexb_> !java
[19:23] <histo> Physicist: press the shift key when booting to get a grub menu.  You can then select older kernels under advanced options.
[19:23] <Justpassing> what is the ppa purge
[19:23] <guideX> is there a firewall built into 12.10 I can disable?
[19:23] <histo> !firewall | guideX
[19:23] <theadmin> guideX: It's disabled by default.
[19:23] <guideX> ah ok
[19:23] <alexb_> yes what us the ppa purge
[19:24] <ejv> tqrst: apt-get install git-core git-svn ?
[19:24] <tqrst> ejv: already installed
[19:24] <guideX> i'm unable to remote desktop to my machine, i've done the whole "remote desktops" on the site
[19:24] <histo> guideX: remote desktop is a windows protocol
[19:24] <guideX> ah ok
[19:24] <guideX> so vnc will work maybe
[19:24] <histo> guideX: yes
[19:24] <guideX> i'll go that route
[19:25] <SonikkuAmerica> guideX: Either that or SSH
[19:25] <kovu> ioria i was trying to install jre 7 on my ubuntu 12.10 but i am doing it now that ks you
[19:25] <Physicist> histo, Ok I will try it, but, the actuallization is important, right?
[19:26] <jhutchins_wk> histo: There's an rdp server for Linux (at least one).
[19:26] <theadmin> guideX: There's also TeamViewer if anything, which is the simpliest solution in existence.
[19:26] <ejv> so... it appears your perl binds are installed in a different place than git-core/git-svn expects, can you just setup a symlink?
[19:26] <guideX> hmm vnc isn't working either
[19:26] <histo> Physicist: you need to catch it just after the bios loads.
[19:26] <guideX> oh ok
[19:26] <guideX> oh wait it is asking me a password :D
[19:26] <histo> guideX: What howto or website are you looking at?
[19:27] <trueneu_> Hi. Could someone help me out? I'm trying to redirect all incoming connections with iptables with `iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -m tcp --dport 8888 -j DNAT --to-destination <IP_ADDRESS>:80`, <IP_ADDRESS> is my eth0 ip. Default policy is ACCEPT, ip forwarding enabled. Nothing works.
[19:27] <histo> guideX: and how did you enable
[19:27] <Physicist> histo, Thank you!
[19:27] <histo> guideX: "remote desktop"
[19:27] <guideX> oh I followed tutorials on the web
[19:27] <guideX> but I was trying rdp after
[19:27] <guideX> ok vnc connected, but I have a black screen
[19:28] <ejv> tqrst: so... it appears your perl binds are installed in a different place than git-core/git-svn expects, can you just setup a symlink?
[19:28] <histo> guideX: You realize, there is desktop sharing built in via vino
[19:28] <histo> !vino | guideX
[19:28] <guideX> hmm ok
[19:28] <tqrst> ejv: I tried that, but the perl svn bindings were compiled against that older version. If I try to load them with 5.14, it fails with missing symbols.
[19:28] <tqrst> ejv: trying to recompile it by hand now instead
[19:29] <histo> guideX: if you look at desktop sharing in the dash
[19:29] <twobitsprite> hey. I'm running 12.04 with unity on a lenovo laptop with an nvidia video card. I have second monitor plugged in to the laptop. For some reason, window placement doesn't do the same kind of "smart" things on the second monitor as it does on the first. If I open multiple terminal windows on the second monitor, they all just get piled on top of each other in the upper left
[19:29] <tqrst> urgh, build-dep libsvn-perl wants to pull in every package in the universe
[19:29] <histo> twobitsprite: sounds like a bug to me.
[19:29] <guideX> oh I see
[19:30] <guideX> I got in with vnc, there was a prompt on the screen
[19:30] <twobitsprite> histo: I've searched all over and can't find anything, and I can't be the first person to notice it...
[19:30] <guideX> from the vm session
[19:30] <tqrst> and half of kde for some reason
[19:30] <guideX> it was saying "allow user to login" etc
[19:30] <ejv> !bug
[19:30] <guideX> cool
[19:30] <guideX> now I can vnc into it :D
[19:30] <guideX> now to figure out how to disable that prompt on the console
[19:30] <Justpassing> how can i fix the broken packages?  i install the ubuntu with windows with launching a program.i guess i dont need to delete.
[19:31] <twobitsprite> I know how a file bugs, thanks, I just didn't know if anyone here has seen it before or might have some suggestions about how to work around it or fix it
[19:31] <guideX> hmm except.. I can only see
[19:31] <guideX> I can't actually control the screen
[19:31] <guideX> in vnc
[19:31] <SonikkuAmerica> Justpassing: [ sudo apt-get install f ] ?
[19:31] <SonikkuAmerica> Or rather [ sudo apt-get install -f ]
[19:31] <ph1rmw4r3> hello all, i want this script i wrote to run at startup, it is located at    ~/startup.sh
[19:31] <SonikkuAmerica> !bash | ph1rm4r3
[19:31] <guideX> I think it might be frozen hmm
[19:32] <guideX> ah ok I see, it was just frozen
[19:32] <guideX> i thin kit works :)
[19:32] <SonikkuAmerica> ph1rm4r3: Or rather, try /join #bash
[19:32] <Justpassing> it says "the package "f" don't place
[19:32] <ph1rmw4r3> no i dont want to use the teminal i wat it to auto run, shoul i use rc local
[19:32] <tuxcrafter> hi all, im running a ubuntu 12.04 with 3.5.0 kernel on a hp probook 4520s WD842EA and cant get my touchpad (clickpad) working properly
[19:32] <SonikkuAmerica> Justpassing: I typed it wrong, it's [ sudo apt-get install -f ]
[19:32] <ph1rmw4r3> or ~/.rclocal
[19:32] <tqrst> SonikkuAmerica: how would #bash help him out with automatically running a script at *startup*?
[19:32] <tuxcrafter> does somebody have experience with HP touchpads and 3.5.0 kernel
[19:33] <ph1rmw4r3> well startup, i mean login, my bad
[19:33] <SonikkuAmerica> ph1rmw4r3, tqrst: I stand corrected.
[19:33] <guideX> thanks again for the help
[19:33] <jhutchins_wk> guideX: There are several different ways to use vnc.  You can share the current desktop, with and without prompting the current user, you can allow a remote user to controll the desktop or only observe, and you can restrict the remote users to their own login session, seperate from the current local user.
[19:33] <tqrst> ph1rmw4r3: startup as in on boot, or every time you log in?
[19:33] <guideX> hmm ok
[19:33] <ph1rmw4r3> login tqrst
[19:33] <xangua> tuxcrafter: and with the kernel provided by ubuntu official repositories¿
[19:34] <tqrst> ph1rmw4r3: what shell do you use? (echo $SHELL)
[19:34] <ph1rmw4r3> bash
[19:34] <ph1rmw4r3> /bin/bash
[19:34] <guideX> i'm more used to rdp, this is why i'm so confused heh
[19:34] <Justpassing> it says to me type autoremove and when i type it it says E: /var/lib/dpkg/lock is locked
[19:34] <tqrst> ph1rmw4r3: then you could add it to ~/.bashrc
[19:34] <guideX> so there's no rdp without xrdp then?
[19:35] <guideX> but xrdp doesn't work with unity right
[19:35] <SonikkuAmerica> Justpassing: Is something else installing?
[19:35] <SonikkuAmerica> Justpassing: Or being removed?
[19:35] <ph1rmw4r3> so all my script to ~/.bashrc
[19:35] <ph1rmw4r3> so add*
[19:35] <tuxcrafter> xangua: same i hoped the 3.5.0 kernel from the official repos fixed it since i met someone at fosdem yesterday with ah zenbook that needed 3.5.0 to fix it
[19:35] <Justpassing> No,ubuntu soft. is closed
[19:35] <ph1rmw4r3> so i just add it to the top
[19:36] <ph1rmw4r3> something like   /home/user/startup.sh
[19:36] <Zentaur> hello
[19:36] <jhutchins_wk> ph1rmw4r3: Probably better to add it at the end.
[19:36] <SonikkuAmerica> Justpassing: Weird.
[19:36] <Zentaur> i'm trying to install 12.04 on my computer with hardware raid 1
[19:36] <SonikkuAmerica> Justpassing: You may need to restart.
[19:36] <ph1rmw4r3> ok ill put it on the end
[19:36] <xangua> tuxcrafter: are you sure you just not disabled the touchpad with the function key¿
[19:37] <Justpassing> is the restart will fix it?
[19:37] <Zentaur> it crashes, there is something wrong with ubi-usersetup or something like that
[19:37] <tuxcrafter> xangua: it is the right mouse button that doesnt work and you cant use your left hand on the left button of the touchpad and use your right hand to move the cursor
[19:37] <Physicist> There in North America, you guys have 4G Internet?
[19:37] <Zentaur> i read that i can install trying ubuntu and intalling from there.
[19:37] <Zentaur> but i need to update the installer
[19:37] <skp1> my douche.
[19:38] <Zentaur> could anybody tell me how?
[19:38] <SonikkuAmerica> Physicist: We have it in most major cities.
[19:38] <SonikkuAmerica> Physicist: In fact, 4G LTE
[19:39] <Physicist> sonikkuAmerica, Here have only 3G, and is horrible!!
[19:39] <Physicist> sonikkuAmerica, Here.. Brazil.
[19:39] <MonkeyDust> Physicist  did you have a support question?
[19:40] <Physicist> MonkeyDust, was resolved!
[19:40] <histo> Physicist: did the old kernel work?
[19:41] <drmagoo> Zentaur> By hardware raid, have you bought a seperate raid-card or is it an internal one on your motherboard ?
[19:41] <Physicist> histo, yes! But, I am using Backtrack that is in dual now. Thank you!
[19:42] <histo> Physicist: Okay well maybe you should file a bug.  So it can be tracked down as to why your hardware isn't working in the latest kernel.
[19:42] <histo> !bug | Physicist
[19:43] <ph1rmw4r3> okay, so i added my script to the bottom of ~/.bashrc   and now theres a lot of weird shtuff going on now...   :/
[19:43] <ikonia> sounds like you have no idea what you are doing
[19:43] <Zentaur> it is internal
[19:43] <ph1rmw4r3> well it works kina
[19:44] <Zentaur> i installed it before with the same cd and there was no problem
[19:44] <ph1rmw4r3> but its when i ctrl alt T   it runs my script
[19:44] <Zentaur> but this time i checked to crypt my home
[19:44] <guideX> any idea why when I do vbox (headless mode) why vnc won't connect? It only connects when the vm window is shown
[19:44] <ph1rmw4r3> i want it to just run when i login, not every time i use the terminal..
[19:44] <ikonia> guideX: needs an x server to connect to ?
[19:44] <guideX> hmm ok
[19:44] <compdoc> guideX, which vnc?
[19:45] <Dr_willis> guideX,  use a stand alone vncserver such as tightvnc, or vnc4server. not x11vnc, or vino
[19:45] <Physicist> histo, first I have to install the latest ATI driver, than I will see about it.
[19:45] <guideX> i'm using tightvnc
[19:45] <guideX> as the client
[19:45] <Zentaur> is there a way to install from the try ubuntu only with free software option?
[19:45] <guideX> as far as ubuntu 12.10, whatever is built in
[19:45] <Dr_willis> guideX,  as the SERVER.. what vnc server?
[19:45] <Physicist> histo, Thanks again!
[19:45] <Dr_willis> guideX,  there ya go.. thats vino.. use tightvnc for the server.
[19:45] <guideX> ah ok
[19:45] <ph1rmw4r3> ubuntu makes me rage
[19:45] <drmagoo> Zentaur, do you know the make and model of your motherboard ?
[19:46] <koala_> join/ #squat
[19:46] <Dr_willis> computers that do what you tell them to do! egads. ;)
[19:47] <Nickvcqezname> hi how to use ffmpegtjhumbnailer with thunar plz?
[19:48] <Dr_willis> http://code.google.com/p/ffmpegthumbnailer/wiki/Faq
[19:49] <ph1rmw4r3> the pepole at #bash told me to get lost and to go here
[19:49] <Nickvcqezname> ty for link willy however I have Xubuntu 12.04, no thunar-thumbnailer package
[19:49] <Dr_willis> !info ffmpegthumbnailer
[19:49] <tqrst> ph1rmw4r3: try putting it in bash_profile instead of bashrc - bash_profile only runs for login shells, whereas bashrc is run for interactive shells too
[19:49] <ikonia> ph1rmw4r3: no they didn't
[19:49] <ph1rmw4r3> lol okay thanks ill try
[19:49] <Dr_willis> ph1rmw4r3,  they most likely expect you to read some bash docs also...
[19:50] <pseudonymous> Pro tip: never use bash for anything but invoking a few commands - Learn python or ruby instead :D
[19:50] <Dr_willis> i use rexx ;)
[19:51] <ph1rmw4r3> they did, you can go look lol
[19:51] <miebster_atwork> my windows manager (KDE) just went bonkers and crashed, how can I restart it without logging out?
[19:52] <Dr_willis> miebster_atwork,  see if you can run 'kwin' perhaps?
[19:52] <theadmin> miebster_atwork: Window manager as in the real window manager, i.e. KWin, the thing drawing window borders, or the entire environment?
[19:53] <miebster_atwork> theadmin: both, running kwin brought back some functionality, I can now switch desktops, but no kmenu or window decarators
[19:53] <traubisoda> hi
[19:53] <miebster_atwork> theadmin: nevermind the decarators are fine, I just dont have the desktop and kmenu bar
[19:54] <theadmin> miebster_atwork: Ah... Huh, that's odd... I'm not all too sure what provides those, unfortunately, it's something that starts with "plasma", but can't remember the exact name.
[19:54] <jrib> !startup | ph1rmw4r3
[19:54] <traubisoda> i'm on 12.10 gnome3 fallback over xrdp. there's no reboot or shutdown option on the GUI, and if i reboot or halt from terminal, it stucks without any error messages during the process. what should i do to fix this?
[19:56] <beatmasher> helo ... i am trying: sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source ...or... sudo apt-get --reinstall install bcmwl-kernel-source .......as it says on:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#b43%20-%20Internet%20access .....but it says in terminal: Reading package lists... Done
[19:56] <beatmasher> Building dependency tree
[19:56] <beatmasher> Reading state information... Done
[19:56] <beatmasher> E: Unable to locate package bcmwl-kernel-source
[19:56] <theadmin> traubisoda: GNOME 3 does not provide reboot/shutdown options in the GUI, that is correct. You have to log out and shutdown from GDM. As for terminal shutdown, you sure it gets stuck? I mean, if it did shut down, the connection would be lost, so your RDP client will hang.
[19:56] <Dr_willis>  beatmasher  done a sudo apt-get update    recently?
[19:56] <beatmasher> yes
[19:56] <Dr_willis> !info bcmwl-kernel-source
[19:57] <miebster_atwork> I just wan't a stable linux distro :( fml right?
[19:57] <Dr_willis> beatmasher,  what ubuntu release?
[19:57] <yoloyolo> Hi there, is there any way I can use cpufreq-set during a debian installation? You know, throttle the CPU? I have a bit of a hardware problem - overheating, and I can't go about fixing it as of now, but I need this box working.
[19:57] <yoloyolo> *ubuntu whoops
[19:57] <beatmasher> 10.10
[19:57] <traubisoda> theadmin: that's correct, but i have physical acces to the pc as well, and during shutdown after a while nothing happens, the animation stops
[19:57] <Dr_willis> !10.10
[19:57] <Dr_willis> beatmasher,  can you install anything>?  that is an EOL release
[19:58] <Mathnerd314> any good LDAP clients that aren't written in Java? I've tried JXplorer and Apache Directory Studio and they both fail because of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjdk-6/+bug/1006776
[19:58] <theadmin> traubisoda: Ah, that sounds rather familiar, it's a kernel power problem. Modify /etc/default/grub, add "reboot=bios" to the end of GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[19:58] <Inoki> Hi guys,
[19:58] <Inoki> anybody using Plank?
[19:58] <traubisoda> theadmin: thanks, i'll try that right now
[19:59] <yoloyolo> Hi there, is there any way I can use cpufreq-set during an Ubuntu installation? You know, throttle the CPU? I have a bit of a hardware problem - overheating, and I can't go about fixing it as of now, but I need this box working.
[19:59] <theadmin> traubisoda: Then you'll have to forcefully shutdown somehow (pull the plug), but "sudo sync" first, to avoid data loss.
[19:59] <theadmin> traubisoda: After a reboot, it'll work fine, I hope.
[19:59] <Zentaur> it is a bug with ubiquity when i install with raid and encrypted home
[19:59] <Zentaur> is there a solution?
[19:59] <traubisoda> theadmin: i hope so too :)
[20:00] <Zentaur> may i download 12.04 again and try? maybe it has been solved
[20:00] <theadmin> traubisoda: Oh, sorry, after editing the file you'll also need to "sudo update-grub" for the changes to be applied.
[20:00] <theadmin> I keep forgetting that part... God, grub1 was easier
[20:00] <traubisoda> yeah:)
[20:00] <beatmasher> dr_willis,i cant download even hearts game
[20:00] <jrib> yoloyolo: well it's a live cd, so if you can make it to the point where it loads the live environment safely, you could use the command there...
[20:01] <theadmin> beatmasher: 10.10 is not a supported Ubuntu release. The repositories have been closed off.
[20:01] <Zentaur> by the way... how do i tell ubuntu to install only frree software?
[20:02] <theadmin> Zentaur: On the livecd, you could open the "Modes" menu and choose "Free Software Only". As for the repos, simply disable the restricted and multiverse repos.
[20:03] <theadmin> Zentaur: Both will lead to the same result. Although if you don't do the first, then Ubuntu may pull in propretiary drivers for your hardware during the install.
[20:05] <Inoki> Is there anyone who can help with Plank dock?
[20:06] <MonkeyDust> !find plank
[20:06] <Zentaur> thanks theadmin
[20:07] <traubisoda> theadmin: work's like a charm! thank you very much!! :)
[20:08] <Zentaur> i must install from the will it install only free software if i choose "only free software" in the modes menu and then i try ubuntu?
[20:08] <Zentaur> i need to install from "try ubuntu"
[20:09] <beatmasher> ok. What release of linux would be best for laptop with sempron 3100+ @1,8Ghz 1gb ram intel chipset graphics
[20:09] <ph1rmw4r3> so my computer is really jacked up now
[20:09] <Nach0z> somethin' little
[20:09] <bizhanMona> HI, i have a PC board running Ubuntu 12.04 . It has two ethernet ports. One port is connected to an uplink switch. The other port is connected to a local switch. I would like to configure the PC as a DHCP server for devices connected to the local switch. How should I configure the Ethernet ports and server as DHCP server? thx
[20:09] <ikonia> !dhcp | bizhanMona
[20:09] <ph1rmw4r3> all i have is the xfce4-panel,
[20:10] <ph1rmw4r3> thats all that was in my script, so is that all thats going to start?
[20:10] <theadmin> Zentaur: Yes, also make sure not to mark the checkmark that's about installing the restricted-extras, that pulls in a whole bunch of propretiary stuff like Flash, MP3 codecs...
[20:10] <ikonia> ph1rmw4r3: why are you doing this if you have no idea what you are doing or trying to do
[20:10] <bizhanMona> ikonia: thanks
[20:11] <ph1rmw4r3> all i wanted was xfce4-panel to auto start at login
[20:11] <ikonia> bizhanMona: out of interest, why are you connected to the uplink port of a switch ?
[20:11] <ph1rmw4r3> so i made a script that starts it, and linked to it via ~/.profile
[20:12] <ph1rmw4r3> and now it works but nothing else works lol
[20:12] <Zentaur> theadmin, where is taht option?
[20:12] <Chat2581> Hi
[20:13] <ph1rmw4r3> hi
[20:13] <bizhanMona> ikonia: oh sorry I miss write. There are two switches, an uplink switch and local switch.  One of the server's port will be connected to one of the ports on the uplink switch and the other ethernet port will be connected to the local switch. I hope this clarifies the configuration ....
[20:13] <ph1rmw4r3> ikonia, where did i go wrong?
[20:14] <theadmin> Zentaur: The second install step, it has "Download updates while installing" and "Install this third-party software". The second one is to be unchecked.
[20:14] <ula-atze> hi all
[20:14] <Zentaur> i don't have the second option
[20:14] <theadmin> Zentaur: Oh, then I guess booting in Free Software mode removes it from the installer. That's clever.
[20:15] <theadmin> Wasn't aware of that
[20:15] <ula-atze> #xbuntu
[20:15] <Zentaur> :) thanks theadmin
[20:15] <Zentaur> you are great
[20:15] <ph1rmw4r3> maybe ubuntu is not for me i suppose yes?
[20:16] <daftykins> ph1rmw4r3: what are you trying to do?
[20:16] <ph1rmw4r3> all i want is my panel to auto start on login
[20:16] <daftykins> ph1rmw4r3: if you want to use xfce, install xubuntu? ;x
[20:16] <ph1rmw4r3> noo
[20:16] <ph1rmw4r3> all i want is the panel from it
[20:16] <ph1rmw4r3> and it works
[20:17] <daftykins> so you have a script but it's not working?
[20:17] <ph1rmw4r3> but i have to start it manualy with the command  xfce4-panel
[20:17] <daftykins> did you chmod +x the script?
[20:17] <ph1rmw4r3> the script works
[20:17] <ph1rmw4r3> yeah i chmod 777
[20:17] <ph1rmw4r3> but how to auto start?
[20:17] <daftykins> that's not exactly the way to do that, but ok
[20:18] <daftykins> what's the base distro? a standard ubuntu 12.10 ?
[20:18] <ph1rmw4r3> yesh
[20:19] <daftykins> ph1rmw4r3: tried running the 'startup applications' program?
[20:19] <daftykins> open the dash, type 'start' and it'll show up
[20:19] <ph1rmw4r3> daftykins, no where can i find that?
[20:20] <daftykins> ph1rmw4r3: i just said
[20:20] <daftykins> ph1rmw4r3: also: http://askubuntu.com/questions/159887/where-did-the-startup-applications-preferences-program-go
[20:20] <ph1rmw4r3> oh there is no dash
[20:21] <ph1rmw4r3> some one told me to add my script to ~/.profile and now it wont start all the way all i have is the panel i wanted
[20:22] <ph1rmw4r3> is there a command to open the start up apps
[20:22] <guideX> is there something for ubuntu 12.10 mysql in a ui (other than workbench)?
[20:22] <Kion> Hello I renamed a directory, and now Unity will not find any of the files in that folder, is there a command to make unity redo its index or something?
[20:22] <daftykins> ph1rmw4r3: read that website.
[20:22] <ph1rmw4r3> phpmyadmin  is great for sql admin
[20:23] <guideX> hmm in a ui would be nice
[20:23] <guideX> a program or such
[20:23] <guideX> not a webpage or in the terminal if possible
[20:23] <ph1rmw4r3> no its a web ui
[20:23] <ph1rmw4r3> its a web page but it is very nice
[20:23] <hybirdd> have you tried the MySQL workbench?
[20:23] <daftykins> guideX: there's probably a channel for mysql.
[20:24] <guideX> yeah I don't really like the workbench
[20:24] <guideX> I can't figure out how to create a database or restore
[20:24] <guideX> i'm used to like sqlyog or ms management studio
[20:24] <guideX> i'm in mysql, but I can't remember the nickserv login command to identify myself heh
[20:24] <guideX> so I can't speak
[20:25] <guideX> it's like nickserv login user password right?
[20:25] <Tanelt> Hi all, How to use grep command to find a 'String' in a directory but also in sub directories?
[20:25] <hybirdd> if you feel adventurous you can use wine to get sqlyog
[20:25] <daftykins> guideX: /msg nickserv hello
[20:25] <guideX> ug wine, I was hopeing for something native to avoid issues heh
[20:25] <daftykins> Tanelt: "ls -r /path | grep -i <word to search for>" ?
[20:26] <kike_> Hi all
[20:26] <daftykins> guideX: /msg nickserv identify <pass> i think
[20:26] <djzn> is there anything other CD burner for linux with the same feature as Brasero, like splitting one large file in multiple tracks?
[20:26] <hybirdd> correct daftykins
[20:27] <Tanelt> Thanks daftykins
[20:27] <theadmin> djzn: xfburn and k3b are popular alternatives.
[20:27] <kike_> I have a problem trying to make an ISO from the CD-ROM that comes with my children school books... Neither Brasero nor K3B make a 'mountable0 ISO
[20:28] <kike_> any ideas?
[20:28] <djzn> theadmin, K3B does not split audio, does it?
[20:28] <daftykins> kike_: has it got multiple tracks, data and audio?
[20:28] <kike_> should have some kind of _ucking DRM isn't it?
[20:28] <tqrst> Tanelt: grep -R
[20:28] <theadmin> djzn: I am not sure, honestly.
[20:28] <kike_> no, just Data
[20:28] <tqrst> Tanelt: no need to pointlessly pipe with ls
[20:29] <daftykins> tqrst: my bad
[20:29] <daftykins> the whole world will end now that one extra command got used :'(
[20:29] <daftykins> ;)
[20:29] <daftykins> kike_: i'd try and dd it to an image
[20:29] <tqrst> Tanelt: also, consider using ack instead of grep if you are going to be searching through directories that contain source control metadata (.svn, .git etc)\
[20:29] <tqrst> daftykins: and it will be all your fault :p
[20:30] <daftykins> tqrst: that's some serious pressure
[20:30] <tqrst> daftykins: piping is serious business
[20:30] <MonkeyDust> djzn  i guess this comes close to what you want to do http://audacity.sourceforge.net/help/faq_i18n?s=files&i=split
[20:30] <tqrst> if you use them all up, there won't be any left for anyone
[20:30] <kike_> sorry daftykins but i don't understand "dd"
[20:30] <Dr_willis> kike_,  you sure its a cd and not a dvd?
[20:30] <Tanelt> Thanks for the additional useful information tqrst
[20:31] <Dr_willis> or it may be a dual-data optical disk. music and data
[20:31] <daftykins> kike_: as in, the use of it?
[20:31] <kike_> yes, CD not DVD
[20:31] <Dr_willis> kike_,  so it is an audio cd?
[20:31] <kike_> no, it's only a data CD
[20:31] <MonkeyDust> djzn  there's also this http://danilodellaquila.com/blog/how-to-split-an-audio-.flac-file-using-ubuntu-linux
[20:31] <Dr_willis> then just copy the files from it to a directory.
[20:31] <kike_> just files inside
[20:31] <MartynKeigher> hey, so i just installed ubuntu 12.04 (Desktop) whats the best app to modify the appearance? and resize the launcher icons?
[20:32] <daftykins> kike_: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/path/to/write/image.iso
[20:32] <Dr_willis> unless its like a PC game...
[20:32] <daftykins> kike_: where 'cdrom' is your optical device of course
[20:32] <kike_> it's a CD for kids
[20:32] <kike_> those wich comes with school books
[20:32] <Dr_willis> a data cd,,, that does what.... its got programs on  it you run on a windows machine?
[20:32] <kike_> daftykins, will give it a try thanks
[20:33] <sakkemo> the nipple on my Lenovo doesn't seem to work on 12.10, it did on 12.04. Anyone else had the same problem?
[20:33] <kike_> Dr_willis, yes, of course they are programs for windows, some kind of virtual book and utils
[20:33] <Dr_willis> kike_,  then its possible theres also audio tracks on the cd the apps use.
[20:33] <Dr_willis> that can confuse  copy apps.
[20:34] <djzn> MonkeyDust, actually all of that is a workaround. I wanted a feature like Brasero does... split the large flac. However, brasero burns STATIC when you do this.
[20:34] <Dr_willis> dd should be able to copy it.  unless its some really weird protection
[20:34] <kike_> Dr_willis, no, it's not possible. no audio tracks on this cd
[20:34] <kike_> let's go for dd
[20:34] <Dr_willis> if theres no audio tracks.. then just copy the files to a directory. No need to image the whole disk
[20:34] <kike_> :) i'll be back asap
[20:35] <Zentaur> does anybody know how to update the installer while trying ubuntu?
[20:35] <Dr_willis> making a 700mb image thats holding 20mb of a game.. :) is a little overkill
[20:35] <kike_> was thinking in make an image cause it's easier for me to move and/mount in the netbook
[20:36] <Dr_willis> if the game works in wine.. most likely you dont need to mount the iso at all.. just copy the files to a dir.. and run the game from there
[20:36] <MonkeyDust> djzn  i know, that's what i said 'comes close to what you want to do'
[20:36] <kike_> yes.. but it's about 300 MB. both K3B and brasero make the image... but after an "succesfully done" i'm not able to mount or even oper with the archive manager
[20:36] <kike_> promts a weird error
[20:37] <kike_> "/media/kike/SANTILLANA"' exited with non-zero exit status 32: mount: block device /dev/loop0p1 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[20:37] <kike_> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0p1"
[20:37] <kike_> to be more exactly...
[20:37] <daftykins> kike_: i'd personally just mount -o loop -t iso9660 /path/to/image.iso instead of using an archiving prog
[20:38] <Dr_willis> !iso
[20:38] <Dr_willis> thats the generic  'mount failed' error message.
[20:38] <daftykins> ^ that too, if you wanna have it actually work
[20:39]  * daftykins tips his hat to Dr_willis
[20:39] <djzn> MonkeyDust, I actually don't want to SPLIT the file...
[20:39] <djzn> MonkeyDust, I want to create a cuesheet that goes with it, so its burnable from the cue...
[20:41] <kike_> daftykins, your option for mounting says "Warning [...] seems to be read only" and doesn't mount it :(
[20:42] <daftykins> kike_: see the ubottu message Dr_willis triggered after i said that
[20:43] <kike_> i see... basically the same witout ISO specs... let's try!
[20:44] <kike_> ok, just the same
[20:44] <daftykins> moans it's read only? 0o
[20:44] <Dr_willis> an iso file would get mounted read only,,  yes
[20:45] <daftykins> didn't know it said that
[20:46] <kike_> Dr_willis, looks like it works!
[20:47] <kike_> so, the iso was made well
[20:47] <kike_> it's the mounter wich isn't working?
[20:48] <kike_> I can at least see the files, as it's a windows CD... let's see if Wine can open it!
[20:49] <kike_> Dr_willis, daftykins THANK YOU so much, help me a lot
[20:49] <daftykins> kike_: np :)
[20:50] <kike_> i'll try your mentioned dd option too, just to see how it works (have to take a look at the man dd first:)
[20:52] <Frojdholm> Hi, i just installed Ubuntu 12.04 and i want to move the menu bar down to the window borders instead of having them in the top bar. How would i do that?
[20:53] <Frojdholm> any one know a way to do that?
[20:54] <xangua> Frojdholm: saw a tutorial to doing it in webupd8 a long time ago
[20:54] <Frojdholm> xangua: ok i'll search their site
[20:54] <xangua> by the time 12.04 was released
[20:55] <kike_> Ok, one question daftykins , in order to make the dd, i need to know the dev for my cd-rw USB device
[20:55] <kike_> more /proc/sys/dev/cdrom/info says something like sr0
[20:56] <kike_> is /dev/sr0 my usb cd-rw unit? sounks weird, used to hdx and sdx ¿?
[20:56] <histo> kike_: /dev/cdrom
[20:56] <histo> kike_: unless you hvae multiple cdroms
[20:56] <daftykins> kike_: "ls -l /dev/cd*" will probably say that it's cdrom0 / cdrom
[20:57] <budmang> anyone use drivers other then default for their broadcom NIC chipsets? http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man4/bge.4freebsd.html
[20:57] <cloudgeek> MAC os x tool GeekTool , alternative for ubuntu
[20:57] <cloudgeek> is any
[20:58] <kike_> yes!  lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 feb  4 21:24 /dev/cdrw -> sr0
[20:58] <cloudgeek> ?
[20:58] <kike_> ant /dev/cdrom too histo
[20:58] <histo> !enter | guide
[20:58] <tb01110100> Is Ubuntu 12.04 unable to write to DVD-R disks?
[20:58] <histo> kike_: yeah /dev/cdrom  is usually a safe bet. It points to the apropriate device
[20:58] <histo> tb01110100: no
[20:59] <histo> budmang: you need firmware for broadcom cards
[20:59] <histo> !bcm | budmang
[20:59] <budmang> histo: Its the BCM57xx series...  its not wifi.
[21:00] <kunji> cloudgeek: Please rephrase your question, I'm not really sure what you're asking
[21:00] <inv3nt0r> Hi everyone. Does anyone here have experience setting up AFP using 'netatalk' ?
[21:01] <Dave77> why is it so difficult for game dev to make their current games for ubuntu/linux?  Is that all there is for 3D OpenGL?
[21:01] <kike_> hmmm that's what i don't like about console... no progress bar! ;) Done  sudo dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/home/kike/Escritorio/santitest.iso and have to have faith about it's progressing!
[21:01] <BluesKaj> !steam | Dave77
[21:01] <cervO> yes inv3ntor
[21:02] <tb01110100> Is dd able to write an image to a DVD?
[21:02] <tb01110100> !source
[21:02] <inv3nt0r> cervO: I'm trying to get things going on Server 12.04, and have followed a few different guides but fail to connect.
[21:03] <kike_> BTW - hate valve! got a raeon HD4800 and finally can be able to use it using a ppa wich have to downgrade xorg server and STEAM doesn't work with this version og xorg
[21:03] <kike_> i hate them!
[21:04] <inv3nt0r> cervO: On the Mac client, I can see the server but I am unable to connect with any users... It seems to know when a user does not exist, so it looks like it is attempting authentication
[21:05] <ejv> you hate a company because software which is essentially in alpha doesn't $work? :\
[21:05] <budmang> is there a seperate 12.04LTS room?
[21:05] <inv3nt0r> ejv: They should work faster ;)
[21:05] <bobolopolis> kike_: thats more an issue with the amd legacy drivers than valve
[21:05] <kike_> yes, basically
[21:05] <kike_> I know :(
[21:06] <kike_> i can't understand why a 1GB DDR5 card is LEGACY.
[21:06] <kike_> but it's legacy in windows too and it works there as a charm
[21:06] <ejv> instead of complaining, do something about it, file a report
[21:06] <kike_> hate them all :)
[21:07] <zaven> aaa
[21:07] <kike_> ejv, i read a lot, there is one official workarround and they don't seem to be receptive to requests
[21:07] <kike_> should have to buy a new one
[21:08] <kunji> kike_: I was thinking about trying Steam soon... guess I should expect trouble with my 4870?
[21:08] <kike_> with propietary drivers YES
[21:09] <bel3atar> what's the package name of the default unity theme?
[21:09] <kunji> kike_: Is it just Steam that isn't behaving for you, or is the problem more general?
[21:09] <InFlames> anyone seen a weird issue where the lock screen falsely gives invalid password?
[21:10] <bobolopolis> amd did update the legacy driver with the latest release a few weeks ago, could try installing it directly rather than the older version in the repos
[21:10] <kike_> with the ones that comes with ubuntu worked, but too slow (in a phenom 2 x6 1045)
[21:10] <kike_> at least for me
[21:10] <kike_> not an expert as everyone can see :)
[21:11] <disharmonic> Well the whole point of the legacy driver update was to get better steam compatibility afaik
[21:11] <kike_> kunji, now with the legacy amd drivers installed through ppa (can't remember wich one) it's just steam
[21:12] <kike_> i have no other graphical problem, 3d is able even in vmware
[21:12] <kike_> enabled (excuse my english)
[21:13] <bel3atar> what's the package name of the default unity theme?
[21:13] <kike_> and the point is that the only error seems to be that steam requires a simple and stupid RGB call to somewhere than can be fixed with 10 commands.
[21:13] <kike_> but you have to do it every time you want to play
[21:15] <disharmonic> bel3atar, Ambiance iirc
[21:15] <dforthman> Hello - I just installed Ubuntu 12.10 and I don't see any support for L2TP/IPSec VPNs in the connection menu. Every search I've done on Google has nothing useful. Has anyone been able to configure Ubuntu to use a L2TP/IPSec VPN client?
[21:15] <InFlames> my lock screen is all white, my card is an ati 5450
[21:15] <bel3atar> disharmonic: what's the package name so I can get it with apt-get?
[21:15] <nimtz> not sure where's the best place to ask this but here goes, i have a X-less box and I want to globally change the dark blue color to something else? (without using framebuffer console)
[21:16] <dforthman> bel3atar, apt-cache search ambiance
[21:16] <MonkeyDust> dforthman  ubuntu server?
[21:16] <nimtz> s/?//
[21:16] <dforthman> MonkeyDust, Ubuntu Desktop. I want to use the client, not the server.
[21:16] <bel3atar> dforthman: can you please do it for me, I'm not running ubuntu?
[21:16] <disharmonic> bel3atar, light-themes
[21:16] <bel3atar> disharmonic: thanks =)
[21:17] <disharmonic> bel3atar, it's also useful to learn the cmd dforthman  posted
[21:17] <disharmonic> ah right didn't see your other post
[21:18] <kike_> daftykins, dd saved me this one, works like a charm
[21:19] <kike_> ¡made ISO from all book CDs!
[21:19] <dforthman> Also, what happened to the "Online Accounts" that used to be on the top bar? I haven't used Ubuntu in a while.
[21:19] <Triups> Ubuntu 12.10:  How do I set mtu in interfaces file for my nics.  I have tried mtu 9000  but this is ignored.  I could probably do a post-up or pre-up but I would think there would be a proper way
[21:19] <daftykins> kike_: excellent :)
[21:20] <MonkeyDust> dforthman  is this useful http://www.purevpn.com/config/l2tp_ip_ubuntu.php
[21:20] <daftykins> kike_: now they're childproof! ish ;)
[21:20] <dforthman> MonkeyDust, thanks. I'll look over that website now.
[21:20] <kike_> until they know have to do a sudo... yes!
[21:21] <kike_> root quits? lol such a nickname!
[21:22] <daftykins> kike_: means someone is foolishly running their IRC client under root ;) a big no-no!
[21:22] <kike_> first lesson here was : never ever ever connect as root :)
[21:22] <kike_> thougt he/she was some kind of op arround here
[21:23] <Eizcreme> hay
[21:23] <kike_> Hola Eizcreme
[21:23] <Eizcreme> Jemand aus Deutschland?
[21:23] <MonkeyDust> !de
[21:24] <MonkeyDust> kike_  an op is smart enough to not use IRC as root
[21:25] <kike_> for sure, just tought about something more about a big EGO, not thought someone could even connect here as a root
[21:25] <_helios_> I think it would be worse to have a SSH sever that allows root acces than using IRC as root lmao
[21:26] <BluesKaj> smarts don't have much to do with it , knowledge is most important
[21:26] <kike_> I can remember IRCap times, i wouldn't like to see something like that in my machine
[21:27] <kike_> but once seen the last java exploit... nothing (propietary at least) is safe :(
[21:29] <chop> does permanently mount samba network folder use more battery?
[21:30] <iceroot> chop: its not mounted permanently, its timeout based and when you want to reach the mount a new connection will be established
[21:31] <civixier> I have a problem with right click in Firefox. Whenever I right click in Firefox, the menu appears for a split second before disappearing again. Using KDE if it's relevant.
[21:31] <chop> iceroot: oh, cool. thanks.
[21:32] <iceroot> how to see the licence of a package with apt-get?
[21:32] <knoppix> hello
[21:32] <knoppix> anyone there
[21:32] <iceroot> knoppix: /n
[21:33] <knoppix> hello
[21:34] <knoppix> hello monkey
[21:34] <_helios_> Has anyone ever figured out what the .goutputstream-XLKJDKFJ is all about I have to do a rm .goutputstream* like twice a day now kinda annoying lol
[21:34] <knoppix> um no clue
[21:34] <dforthman> Ok, so I went ahead and turned on the ATI graphics and now I have no menus or icons.
[21:34] <knoppix> try resetting it
[21:35] <knoppix> it might help
[21:35] <Novus> anyone got info of doing dual boot on my android tablet?
[21:36] <knoppix> im having issues trying to copy over knoppix 7.03 to my HDD and i am having issues with it
[21:36] <_helios_> dforthman: you can try this if you don't want to restart push Ctrl+Alt+F1 after you login to the shell type kill -9 -1 it will reset the gui.
[21:36] <dforthman> _helios_, Will it also disable the ATI driver?
[21:37] <_helios_> dforthman: no it will just reset the gui without rebooting
[21:37] <dforthman> I've restarted twice and the GUI still hasn't come back.
[21:37] <dforthman> So it might be an incompatibility with my card.
[21:37] <kike_> _helios_, thanks, i keep this command for the future
[21:38] <kike_> dforthman, something like that happened to me... an i had to uninstall unity and gnome, and the i installed cynnamon
[21:38] <kike_> after that i installed gnome again
[21:38] <_helios_> kike_: np I use it when my gui freezes on stuff
[21:39] <dforthman> I'm just going to go back to the opensource driver haha
[21:39] <_helios_> dforthman: good choice ;)
[21:39] <AHaKuH> can anyone talk me how to write litle script for check is it samba server online and if it is to mount it ... ?
[21:40] <civixier> Ah, never mind, it seems to be one of the plugins causing this.
[21:40] <_helios_> AHaKuH: I never had good luck with SAMBA so I use SSH
[21:41] <AHaKuH> SSH ? is it better _helios_
[21:41] <AHaKuH> ?
[21:41] <kike_> somebody kicked me or just my wifi falled again?
[21:41] <bel3atar> how do I fix my theme ?? http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/22/image1360010677216513.jpg/
[21:41] <_helios_> AHaKuH: It wont give you access through nautilus like samba but you can do secure transfers and remote connect etc.
[21:42] <AHaKuH> _helios_: i see  but the smb server is at my local net so i do not need secure transfers
[21:42] <AHaKuH> _helios_: i just want to check is it online and if it is to mount it ...
[21:43] <Zentaur> Ubuntu 12.04 64 bit crashes when installing and choosing encrypted /home
[21:43] <Zentaur> any idea how to solve it?
[21:43] <anonymous_> hello
[21:43] <TomyLobo> any hibernation involved? :)
[21:43] <_helios_> Zentaur: have you tried without encryption?
[21:44] <Zentaur> yes, it works
[21:44] <Zentaur> but i need to encrypt it
[21:45] <_helios_> Zentaur: why not use full disk encryption?
[21:45] <Zentaur> i need it to be easy, i'm not an expert ;)
[21:46] <_helios_> Zentaur: full disk encryption is easy it's just a option you check when installing,  I've got two machines full disk encrypted and it works good.
[21:46] <jimaji123> Can someone help me install wine so i can download games that are for windows?
[21:47] <_helios_> jimaji123: You should beable to install it through the Ubuntu Software Center
[21:48] <jimaji123> When i try to install it, it gives me a error
[21:48] <ikonia> jimaji123: not this again
[21:48] <ikonia> jimaji123: how many times do you need this explaining to you
[21:48] <jimaji123> Ikonia, its not working at all anymore.
[21:48] <ikonia> it won't work at all for what you want
[21:48] <ikonia> this was explained to you in great detail less than 24 hours again
[21:48] <Zentaur> _helios how do i do that? is it thechackbox when you enter the user, pssw, machine name....?
[21:49] <jimaji123> Ikonia, this morning some other people were helpnig me
[21:49] <_helios_> Zentaur: yes
[21:49] <jimaji123> They said that if i use wine, i get to install stuff that is for windwos.
[21:49] <jimaji123> Windows*
[21:49] <ikonia> that doesn't change anythin
[21:49] <ikonia> anything
[21:49] <ikonia> it will not work
[21:49] <Zentaur> that's what crashes
[21:49] <jimaji123> Ikonia, then why did they say that wine will let me install stuff for windows.
[21:49] <ikonia> jimaji123: I explained this to you yesterday, it is not appropritate for what you want and how you want to use it
[21:49] <_helios_> Zentaur: It's a full disk encryption option and a home folder you don't want to check the home folder option just the full disk.
[21:50] <jimaji123> Ikonia, your not helping me.
[21:50] <jimaji123> Your going over the stuff from yesterday, how about help me.
[21:50] <jimaji123> Im trying to install steam.
[21:50] <ikonia> jimaji123: correct because your needs are not compatible with the current solution
[21:50] <bobolopolis> Zentaur: for 12.04 you need to use the alternate iso, the option is not there in the desktop installer
[21:50] <jimaji123> And its not letting me.
[21:50] <ikonia> jimaji123: you just said you where trying to install wine
[21:50] <jimaji123> ...
[21:50] <ikonia> jimaji123: now you're trying to install steam less than 20 seconds later
[21:50] <jimaji123> Not anymore.
[21:50] <jimaji123> Ikonia.
[21:50] <jimaji123> Just help me install steam please, and stop being so rude.
[21:50] <ikonia> jimaji123: this was half the prblem yesterday...you don't research/listen and just flit around every 20 seconds
[21:50] <ikonia> jimaji123: I'm not being rude
[21:51] <Zentaur> mmm i'm afraid it is, well if we are talking of the same option
[21:51] <jimaji123> Ikonia.
[21:51] <jimaji123> So, am i suposed to use the ubuntu software center for everything i want to download?
[21:51] <dforthman> Why is it so hard to switch between monitors unless you're streaking your mouse across the two at lightning speed?
[21:51] <ikonia> jimaji123: correct
[21:51] <_helios_> I'll be back
[21:52] <jimaji123> Okay.
[21:52] <jimaji123> Ikonia.
[21:52] <jimaji123> I will search for steam
[21:52] <ikonia> jimaji123: and accept the limitations of the current platform
[21:52] <jimaji123> And ill tell you what happens when i try to install steam, okay?
[21:52] <ikonia> jimaji123: steam is not ther
[21:52] <ikonia> jimaji123: there was explained to you 10 times yesterday
[21:52] <ikonia> jimaji123: it's a beta produt - you have the URL for how to install it
[21:52] <ikonia> this was explained to you in great detail approxitmatly 10 times less than 24 hours agao
[21:52] <jimaji123> Ikonia.
[21:52] <jimaji123> So how else am i suposed to dl it.
[21:53] <jimaji123> Dont say anything mean just help.
[21:53] <jimaji123> I know its in beta for linux.
[21:53] <jimaji123> But how do i get it.
[21:53] <ikonia> exactly as the URL says
[21:53] <ikonia> as you've been told 10 times
[21:53] <ikonia> READ the url then FOLLOW the instructions
[21:53] <Caldrop> just got here, whats in beta?
[21:53] <jimaji123> Ikonia.
[21:53] <ikonia> jimaji123: I again strongly advise you to use windows to play windows games
[21:53] <Tex_Nick> jimaji123:  some apps work with wine some don't, here is a list of known apps that do work ... http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&sTitle=Browse%20Applications&sOrderBy=appName&bAscending=true
[21:53] <jimaji123> Im on steam website right now.
[21:53] <bobolopolis> Zentaur: 12.10 encrypted home directory is different than full disk encryption.  unless they changed the installer recently, 12.04 only shows the encrypted home directory option unless you use the alternate installer
[21:54] <iiulian> Do you know any possibilities to not include the knife in the kitchetn.
[21:54] <jimaji123> Ikonia.
[21:54] <Zentaur> i'll try
[21:54] <ikonia> iiulian: ?
[21:54] <iiulian> ikonia, UPnP
[21:55] <Zentaur> anyway, the option for encrypting my home doesn't work
[21:55] <ikonia> iiulian: what about it ?
[21:55] <Zentaur> there must be a workarround
[21:55] <jimaji123> Ikonia.
[21:55] <jimaji123> Im messaging you.
[21:55] <ikonia> Zentaur: you've repeated this many times today
[21:55] <jimaji123> In the other tab
[21:55] <ikonia> jimaji123: I don't want a message outside of this channel from you please.
[21:55] <jimaji123> Ok.
[21:55] <jimaji123> Well, since steam in is beta, cant i download it from the website?
[21:56] <ikonia> jimaji123: you have the steam/valve linux URL
[21:56] <bobolopolis> Zentaur: i've only used the full disk encryption, never used encrypted home so can't really help with that
[21:56] <jimaji123> No.
[21:56] <ikonia> jimaji123: READ it
[21:56] <ikonia> jimaji123: no what ?
[21:56] <jimaji123> Link me.
[21:56] <Zentaur> ok, i'll try full encryption :)
[21:56] <ikonia> jimaji123: no, you gave it to me yesterday, so I know you have it
[21:56] <jimaji123> Was it this? http://store.steampowered.com/about/
[21:56] <ikonia> no
[21:57] <ikonia> !steam |JZ|
[21:57] <ikonia> oops
[21:57] <dforthman> jimaji123, http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=Install+Steam+on+Ubuntu
[21:57] <Zentaur> runs the machine slower with that kind of encryption?
[21:57] <ikonia> !steam | jimaji123
[21:57] <ikonia> Zentaur: why do you wnat encyption ? really ?
[21:57] <Caldrops> why d you wanna steam on linux? :S
[21:58] <jimaji123> I know its in beta, but cant you still get it?
[21:58] <ikonia> jimaji123: READ the link
[21:58] <jimaji123> I see this.
[21:58] <jimaji123> getting the Steam client onto Linux with full functionality
[21:58] <Caldrops> steams linux list is empty anyone atm so dont go ape installing that
[21:58] <dforthman> jimaji123, all you have to do is read and follow directions, which is the same exact thing you would do if someone were to spell it out for you here.
[21:59] <Zentaur> if my cmputer is stollen i don't want my informtion to be stollen too
[21:59] <ikonia> Zentaur: what sort of information is that sensitive ?
[21:59] <Zentaur> this happened to a friend
[21:59] <Tex_Nick> jimaji123:  /join #ubuntu-steam ... this isn't the proper channel for steam discussion
[21:59] <Zentaur> it is informtion sensitive enough not to say here ;)
[22:00] <jimaji123> But im having problems with installing stuff anywase.
[22:00] <ikonia> I very much doubt that
[22:00] <ikonia> jimaji123: no you are not
[22:00] <ikonia> we went through this yesteday in great detail again
[22:00] <jimaji123> Ikonia yes i am.
[22:00] <jimaji123> When i download something for a website.
[22:00] <ikonia> jimaji123: what can you not install ?
[22:00] <jimaji123> It opens the Archiv manager
[22:00] <ikonia> jimaji123: it opens in archive manager and fails ?
[22:00] <jimaji123> Yes.
[22:00] <ronaldo33> hello.....everyone
[22:00] <iiulian> ikonia, I want to play music from Rhythmbox to my Samsung TV
[22:01] <jimaji123> I am not trolling dude im serious right now.
[22:01] <ikonia> jimaji123: did I, I did I not explain this to you yesterday
[22:01] <DeadWeasel> I setup my 12.04 for RDP, but I got a Connection Refused message, can't get in. (port is correctly forwarding to my local IP)
[22:01] <jimaji123> When it opens the archive manager and it fails.
[22:01] <jimaji123> Then i cant get it.
[22:01] <iiulian> ikonia, in my phone I can select the device where to output the music but I cannot from my PC
[22:01] <jimaji123> Why does it fail??
[22:01] <DeadWeasel> ay ideas how to get rdp working from outside my network?
[22:01] <ikonia> jimaji123: did I not explaint to you, you where trying to open non-archives in archive manager and you should download it to your hard disk ?
[22:02] <jimaji123> Okay ikonia
[22:02] <ikonia> jimaji123: did that happen yes/no
[22:02] <jimaji123> When it installed it opens in the ubuntu software center
[22:02] <Caldrops> well deadweasel u prolly want to fwd ports on the active network u wanna rdp into
[22:02] <ikonia> jimaji123: did that happen yes/no
[22:02] <jimaji123> And this part is the problem
[22:02] <jimaji123> Ikonia wait.
[22:02] <ikonia> jimaji123: did that happen yes/no
[22:02] <klaus__> moritz_89
[22:02] <jimaji123> It opens in the ubuntu software center and i says " Wrong architecture i386
[22:02] <ikonia> jimaji123: did that happen yes/no
[22:03] <DeadWeasel> Caldrops: the ports are correctly forwarded, I was rdping into my win7 machine fine, then I switched to ubuntu, made sure IP was same, and can't get in after doing setup tasks.
[22:03] <jimaji123> Why does it say wrong architecture i386 ikonia.
[22:03] <ikonia> jimaji123: did that happen yes/no
[22:03] <jimaji123> No.
[22:05] <No_One> Hello.. I have a clean and formatted usb drive, but my laptop says invalid system disk
[22:06] <No_One> just the iso is on the drive
[22:06] <bekks> No_One: Thats not a bootable USB drive.
[22:07] <jhutchins_wk> No_One: How did you create the drive?
[22:07] <No_One> ?
[22:07] <jhutchins_wk> No_One: Sorry.
[22:07] <No_One> ._.
[22:08] <jhutchins_wk> No_One: The system is trying to boot from a disk that does not have a boot image.  Where is the bios trying to boot from?  What are you trying to do?
[22:08] <NeoMatrix55> i need a wallpaper changer like it's build in windows 7
[22:08] <NeoMatrix55> for ubuntu
[22:08] <szx> will it work if I compile a c++ binary  on Ubuntu 12.10 and run it on 8.04 with 12.10's libstdc++ ?
[22:08] <vice_> hello
[22:08] <NeoMatrix55> hello
[22:09] <vice_> where are you from?
[22:09] <raven_> hi
[22:09] <b0t> Saludos, alguien por aqui?
[22:09] <NeoMatrix55> I start to love ubuntu....great os especially sequrity
[22:09] <No_One> jhutchins_wk, I have a usb flash drive cruzer micro, and I downloaded the iso to the flash/usb drive and tried restarting, going into boot menu and using the usb setting, and it spit out that it was an invalid disk
[22:10] <raven_> CVLC - how to increase the buffer size / caching time for streams?
[22:10] <b0t> English? or Spanish?
[22:10] <xangua>  http://www.iloveubuntu.net/master-your-wallpapers-variety-and-slidewall-ubuntu-software-center NeoMatrix55 i use varietywhen i am bored :P
[22:10] <iceroot> NeoMatrix55: the most important part is that it is free software (as in free speech)
[22:10] <NeoMatrix55> I'm from Lithuania
[22:10] <pepperjack> !es > b0t
[22:10] <b0t> Ok
[22:10] <mechanism> hello! it is possible to share user's home folder on separate partition with ubuntu? so I wanna mount this hdd to ubuntu as home and share same user folder between ubuntu and mac os
[22:11] <TomyLobo> [23:08:41] <szx> will it work if I compile a c++ binary  on Ubuntu 12.10 and run it on 8.04 with 12.10's libstdc++ ?
[22:11] <TomyLobo> there's a term for what you will go through if you try that
[22:11] <TomyLobo> library hell
[22:11] <mechanism> I meant current home directory belongs to mac system
[22:11] <bekks> TomyLobo: That will most likely just break your 8.04, when you're going to use a newer libstdc++
[22:12] <pepperjack> mechanism: I'm not aware of any problems with this.  an nfs share?
[22:12] <szx> no I mean if I just copy the single libstdc++.so and use LD_LOAD_LIBRARY
[22:12] <pepperjack> mechanism: that's commonly done
[22:12] <bekks> szx: Why dont you compile a static binary then?
[22:12] <mechanism> so it's doable. thanx a lot
[22:12] <xmlnewbi> so i just got vhosts working on my Ubuntu server. although when i go to my server IP adress in a browser I get one of my folder sites. my default doesnt have a dir so I dont know why it would do that. I want to put a small admin page for it
[22:13] <lolcat> My ubuntu is complaining on unmet dependencies for mysql-server, how do I make it ignore the error and remove the crap?
[22:13] <Tex_Nick> !who
[22:13] <mechanism> I wasnt sure if ubuntu wanna deal with user home directory formatted in mac filesystem
[22:13] <No_One> jhutchins_wk, this is what it looks like in my drive
[22:13] <No_One> http://prntscr.com/rl4vj
[22:13] <scott_puopolo> anyone want to give me some pointers on using modprobe??
[22:14] <pepperjack> mechanism: well as long as it's a shared folder you'll use nfs or samba as the protocol.  Im honestly not sure wha the default fs of osx is but ubuntu wont care.  you're talking about a network share right not dual boot?
[22:14] <mechanism> i'm talking about dual boot
[22:15] <scott_puopolo> i 'upgraded' to 12.04...i don't always understand why items that used to work in previous versions don't work in newer versions
[22:17] <FergusL> why isn't libavutil updated in Ubuntu's repos ?
[22:18] <Django> hi
[22:18] <scott_puopolo> anyway, i'm trying to get my wireless to stay working, i figured out how to disable a conflicting driver and use a working driver, stop and start networking to pick up the working driver, but i would like to make this a permanent change
[22:18] <No_One> anyone that wants to put input on my problem is free to help
[22:19] <scott_puopolo> should be easy for someone versed in modprobe i believe
[22:19] <xmlnewbi> 42
[22:20] <genii-around> scott_puopolo: Probably just put bad driver name in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf  and good module name in /etc/modules
[22:23] <guideX> is there a way to improve performance with ubuntu 12.10/unity? the animations are VERY slow
[22:23] <guideX> it's like watching paint dry
[22:23] <kunji> scott_puopolo: I'm not really familiar with using modprobe, but the man page looks helpful
[22:23] <guideX> sometimes I just reset the vm instead of waiting for the animations to finish
[22:23] <sunsetlover> hey guys, i just installed steam and i want to uninstall it , so how can i uninstall
[22:23] <scott_puopolo> genii-around:  what is the function of modprobe.d folder?
[22:24] <scott_puopolo> kunji: thanks for the tip, i have been reading it but i'm seeing redundant locations and wasn't sure which area to use
[22:24] <genii-around> scott_puopolo: Wen te system detects hardware it goes there first to see if there are certain drivers over overs it sould load, or ones to blacklist if there is certain hardware combinations or quirks.
[22:25]  * genii-around smashes on his "H" key for a minute to loosen it up
[22:25] <xangua> guideX: virtual machine¿ why are you using unity on it¿ better try xfce or kde without efects
[22:25] <scott_puopolo> i'm trying to learn the hierarchy of which folders are looked at and in which order
[22:25] <guideX> but I wish to run unity...
[22:25] <kunji> scott_puopolo:modprobe.d has it's own manpage :P
[22:25] <guideX> isn't there a way to run it without the animations?
[22:26] <lampthor> coucou :)
[22:26] <scott_puopolo> does anyone kunji, genii-around, know of a good reference for understanding which folders / files are read in what order?
[22:27] <genii-around> scott_puopolo: Sorry, not offhand.
[22:28] <dtmbmw325i> my hdmi suddenly stopped working. I am using the standard ubuntu 12.10 display manager with an intel i915 video card. Where can I start troubleshooting this?
[22:28] <julian-dephiki> it's not often that I come in here to ask questions.  My php installation on my webserver is somehow setting it's path to just "/bin
[22:28] <julian-dephiki> "
[22:29] <julian-dephiki> any one have any ideas where this is set normally.
[22:29] <scott_puopolo> genii-around: that's ok, so you think it looks at modprobe file to see what should be added to the kernel?
[22:29] <ikonia> julian-dephiki: php.ini ?
[22:29] <julian-dephiki> Can't seem to find it in there, ikonia
[22:29] <j`ey> how can I turn on "universe" in 12.04?
[22:30] <jhutchins_wk> julian-dephiki: php.ini or mods-available php5.conf
[22:30] <genii-around> scott_puopolo: Normally it would be something like udev sees something, then looks in it's rules to see what the usual driver and devicename is... then it looks at modprobe.d to see if there's some special exception for your hardware before it actually loads something
[22:31] <kunji> scott_puopolo: Seems like it will use all configuration files in modprobe.d, I don't think the order matters
[22:31] <dtmbmw325i> j`ey, open software center and go to edit. Look for sources on that menu and left click it. You can choose what you want on the first tab
[22:31] <nOStahl> hi all, i have an .xsession-errors file in my home dir that is 238.9 GIGS! and rising
[22:32] <Twisted_Pleasure> Ha! You're screwed.
[22:32] <Twisted_Pleasure> Hope you have a back-up =P
[22:32] <SonikkuAmerica> O?
[22:32] <jhutchins_wk> Oh look!  There's a manpage for modprobe.d!
[22:32] <Nach0z> lol
[22:32] <scott_puopolo> ok, don't hate on me but i'm used to Haiku / BeOS method which uses a system hierarchy as the base and then uses whatever it uses under the /home/config as a supercede to the system config
[22:32] <raven_> i need a simple bash endless loop with 1 second delay - how would that look like?
[22:32] <jrib> nOStahl: you should read it and see why it's so big
[22:32] <sliva> hey guys does anyone have any idea why my microphone input is too quiet ?
[22:33] <jrib> raven_: look into "sleep"
[22:33] <nOStahl> I can't open a text file 239 gigs big
[22:33] <raven_> jrib, do you know the syntax for the loop function?
[22:33] <SonikkuAmerica> scott_puopolo: I doubt we will. What's the problem?
[22:33] <jrib> raven_: for i in 1 2 3; do echo $i; done
[22:33] <jhutchins_wk> nOStahl: I think I would probably kill X, remove the file, then restart X and see what's populating it.
[22:33] <nOStahl> ran tail on it,  PM Authentication deferred - ignoring client message
[22:34] <jrib> nOStahl: you can use head and tail to investigate the beginning and end of it
[22:34] <raven_> jrib 123?
[22:34] <sliva> is there anything i can do about it ?
[22:34] <jrib> raven_: whatever you want to loop over
[22:34] <julian-dephiki> oh, it's a bug
[22:34] <julian-dephiki> time to report that shit!
[22:34] <jrib> raven_: you can also use while...
[22:34] <jrib> !cli | raven_
[22:34] <Twisted_Pleasure> Open it with "less"
[22:34] <DeadWeasel> Anybody recommend a encryption cli/gui for 12.04?
[22:34] <DeadWeasel> I need to import keys and whatnot
[22:34] <jrib> DeadWeasel: gpg? seahorse?
[22:35] <Twisted_Pleasure> ss64.com/bash/
[22:35] <scott_puopolo> i can read the manpages but i'm looking for the flow..which file(s) are read in which order?  if there is a manpage or a web reference that documents this, just point me in that direction
[22:35] <jrib> scott_puopolo: what context?
[22:35] <kunji> sliva: Maybe, have you tried the stuff in the graphical mixer?  Also have your tried alsamixer?
[22:35] <Twisted_Pleasure> ss64.com/bash/ Might do the trick
[22:36] <sliva> kunji: just tried both :)
[22:36] <sliva> pulseaudio and alsamixer
[22:36] <jhutchins_wk> nOStahl: Are you running vnc?
[22:36] <sliva> not really much better
[22:36] <nOStahl> yes
[22:36] <genii-around> scott_puopolo: Files in /lib/udev/rules.d are read and processed in numerical order.
[22:36] <scott_puopolo> jrib: hardware init, modprobe, overriding default system init behavior
[22:36] <colonelqubit> The LibreOffice package in 12.04 LTS is <IP_ADDRESS>. The LO QA team tells me that even 3.5.7 is EOL. Any idea on when we'll see a bump to 3.6? Are the maintainers waiting for 4.0 to drop?
[22:37] <scott_puopolo> genii-around:  thank you for that
[22:37] <sliva> is there anything else worth trying ?
[22:37] <jhutchins_wk> nOStahl: Something is not configured properly, or it may be a bug.  Toss the message into google.
[22:37] <ikonia> colonelqubit: I do not believe you will see a jump
[22:37] <nOStahl> k
[22:37] <nOStahl> ty
[22:38] <sliva> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/275998
[22:38] <sliva> looks to be a popular problem :)
[22:38] <genii-around> scott_puopolo: You can do your own rules in /etc/udev/rules.d/   as well
[22:38] <jhutchins_wk> scott_puopolo: Generally files are either concatenated or parsed in the same order that the directory listing is read, which is alphabetical.  It depends on what's reading them.   Linus isn't one program that does things the same way all the time.
[22:38] <colonelqubit> ikonia: That sounds crazy to me. 12.04 will have support for the next 5 years -- is it going to be stuck using the LO 3.5 branch the entire time?
[22:38] <xangua> colonelqubit: you can try the libre office ppa (on your own) if you wish to use a recent one
[22:38] <ikonia> colonelqubit: I believe so yes
[22:38] <colonelqubit> xangua: Sure, I'll do that.
[22:39] <colonelqubit> xangua: So the official ubuntu policy is: If you want something newer that LO 3.5, you need to upgrade your distro?
[22:39] <jrib> !sru | colonelqubit
[22:39] <colonelqubit> I just want to know so I can tell users who ask LO for information
[22:39] <kunji> sliva: Hmm, anything after that starts to get kind of messy, but you could try.  I haven't read it yet, but this might help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting#Line_Input.2BAC8-Microphone_Troubleshooting
[22:41] <scott_puopolo> ok all, not looking to be spoonfed, just looking for opinions on how it's normally done, hearing that it varies from distro to distro is 'disturbing'
[22:41] <raven_> jrib, do you know how to close cvlc on any error? because without closing cvlc the script does not make sense... :)
[22:41] <jrib> raven_: what are you trying to accomplish exactly?
[22:42] <colonelqubit> xangua: How supported are the PPAs? (you break it, you get to keep both pieces?)
[22:42] <jrib> scott_puopolo: we don't know what "it" is in your sentence
[22:42] <kunji> colonelqubit: It might not use the 3.5 branch the whole time, it's pretty rare for them to do a major version update on a LTS release, but it is not entirely unheard of.
[22:42] <scott_puopolo> jrib:  sorry, i was looking above for some help with the proper use of modprobe
[22:43] <jhutchins_wk> scott_puopolo: Not from distro to distro as much as from daemon to daemon.
[22:43] <colonelqubit> kunji: Given the development pace of LO, 3.5 is already pretty outdated
[22:43] <xangua> colonelqubit: ppa's are supported by the ones who maintain them
[22:43] <raven_> jrib, i need to record a stream using cvlc but sometimes the stream link disappears for 3 seconds. setting caching up and http-reconnect did not prevent the recording to stop so i at least try to restart the recording
[22:43] <DeadWeasel> can someone help me out with seahore-nautilus?  i installed it but can't find the right key to import
[22:43] <jhutchins_wk> scott_puopolo: Have you read the relevant man pages?
[22:43] <colonelqubit> kunji: 4.0 fixes a lot of things in 3.5. In just 2 years, 3.5 will basically be a dinosaur
[22:44] <scott_puopolo> i have a wireless chipset that was working in previous versions but was not working in 12.04
[22:44] <jrib> raven_: I'd ask the #vlc channel how to best approach that
[22:44] <colonelqubit> I don't expect the LO QA team to do anything more than tag and file bugs for that branch
[22:44] <raven_> jrib, i do already
[22:44] <DeadWeasel> anybody know a good channel for helping with encryption?
[22:44] <jrib> DeadWeasel: #math?  What is your actual question?
[22:44] <scott_puopolo> jhutchins_wk:  that's just it,  i'm not exactly sure where to modify so i'm not sure which to read;  i did read modprobe.d, modprobe.conf
[22:45] <ClientAlive> ubotu "ubuntu-desktop"
[22:45] <ClientAlive> how do I do ubotu?
[22:45] <sliva> kunji: tnx i will give it a try
[22:45] <kunji> colonelqubit: Yeah, but the intent is for it to be super stable, so in a general sense even when the old version isn't as good, upgrading could break the workarounds that people have been using.  I would indeed recommend not using the LTS release if you want more recent versions.
[22:45] <ClientAlive> !ubotu
[22:45] <ClientAlive> !ubotu ubuntu-desktop
[22:45] <ikonia> ClientAlive: what do you want ot know
[22:45] <DeadWeasel> jrib - i created my keys, copied the entire folder output by pgp, now i'm trying to import into ubuntu.  It doesn't seem to see what I want to import
[22:45] <ClientAlive> "<ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubotu ubuntu-desktop"
[22:46] <kunji> colonelqubit: I can't speak on Ubuntu's official policy though, I, and most others in here, are just other users and are not representative of Ubuntu by and large.
[22:46] <jrib> DeadWeasel: what doesn't seem to see what you want to import?  How are you trying exactly?
[22:46] <jhutchins_wk> scott_puopolo: Basically either one can be used.  modprobe.d exists so that packages can drop files there rather than trying to edit modprobe.conf.
[22:46] <ClientAlive> ikonia: when I try to get rid of evince it tells me it has to also remove "ubuntu-desktop" <- this sounds bad to me but I really don't know what it is
[22:46] <jrib> !ubuntu-desktop | ClientAlive
[22:46] <ikonia> ClientAlive: it's a metapackage, it won't cause damage removing it, but I'd advise not removing it unless you have to
[22:47] <DeadWeasel> using ubuntus "Password and Keys" I went to File>import
[22:47] <scott_puopolo> jhutchins_wk:  so these files are merged at startup?
[22:47] <phunyguy> So I have XChat installed, with the indicator plugin, and it seems to open a new xchat instance when I select it from there... is this STILL a bug?
[22:47] <colonelqubit> kunji: Okay, maybe I'll talk to the ubuntu guy who works on LO
[22:47] <DeadWeasel> anyone know what the private key is named by default?
[22:47] <jrib> !who | DeadWeasel
[22:47] <kunji> colonelqubit: Yeah, that would be good ^_^
[22:47] <tekk> hi guys, i've installed 12.04 server on several mac mini core i7 late 2012's in the past few days…. trying the same today on a core i5 late 2012 is giving me issues…. it just goes into a "blinking" prompt after selecting the disc… and the efi boot just doesn't work at all
[22:47] <ClientAlive> ikonia: is there any way to get rid of evince (preferrably entirely) that you would suggest?
[22:47] <tekk> anyone know any issues with that specific mac mini?
[22:48] <jrib> DeadWeasel: did you mean gpg when you said "pgp"?
[22:48] <kunji> !details | DeadWeasel
[22:48] <DeadWeasel> yes
[22:48] <ikonia> ClientAlive: why do you want to get rid of it
[22:48] <DeadWeasel> jrib yes
[22:48] <ClientAlive> ikonia: That's really all I need to do (I use okular and I'm tired of fighting with ubu about default applications)
[22:48] <ikonia> ClientAlive: remove it then
[22:48] <DeadWeasel> jrib i'm afraid I failed to get my private key
[22:48] <ClientAlive> ikonia: but ubuntu-desktop. will I lose features if ubuntu-desktop goes?
[22:49] <DeadWeasel> jrib any idea what it might be called?
[22:49] <jrib> DeadWeasel: I don't know what the gui program expects but I believe your secret key is saved to ~/.gnupg/secring.gpg
[22:49] <ClientAlive> ikonia: if I reinstall ubuntu-desktop will it bring evince back in with it?
[22:49] <ikonia> ClientAlive: correct
[22:50] <ClientAlive> ikonia: to which of the 2 questions?
[22:50] <ClientAlive> ikonia: both?
[22:50] <DeadWeasel> jrib, good, I have that.  but "Passwords and Keys" in 12.04 LTS desktop doesn't see it when I navigate to the folder.
[22:50] <ikonia> ClientAlive: if you re-install ubuntu-desktop it will re-install evince
[22:50] <guideX> is there a way I can ssh into the ubuntu box I have? it won't connect for some reason
[22:50] <guideX> I have no firewall or anything
[22:50] <k1l_> guideX: ssh server running?
[22:50] <jhutchins_wk> scott_puopolo: What are you actually trying to do?
[22:50] <guideX> I do not know, how do I check
[22:50] <jrib> DeadWeasel: I don't know what that program expects
[22:51] <ClientAlive> ikonia: ok. so what does ubuntu-desktop bring in? What do I lose if I take that off the system?
[22:51] <DeadWeasel> it picks up  .key and .asc  mebbe i need to convert somehow?  jrib
[22:51] <cxlxkin> hello everybody
[22:51] <SonikkuAmerica> ClientAlive, nothing!
[22:51] <genii-around> guideX: If you try telnetting to port 22 it should say something.
[22:52] <ClientAlive> SonikkuAmerica: err... yeah, bs
[22:52] <DeadWeasel> !details | DeadWeasel
[22:52] <jhutchins_wk> guideX: Did you install the ssh server?
[22:52] <ClientAlive> SonikkuAmerica: sorry, but I call bs
[22:52] <ClientAlive> I'll look it up
[22:52] <jrib> DeadWeasel: what does help → about say for the name of that  program?  I'll try to open it here
[22:52] <ClientAlive> thx
[22:52] <guideX> I did not ddo anythign extra to get ssh running, I do not know how
[22:52] <scott_puopolo> jhutchins_wk:  i have a wireless chipset that used to work until i upgraded to 12.04; i read in ubuntuforums how to use b43legacy under fwcutter; this works, but i need to make it permanent.
[22:52] <jrib> !ssh | guideX
[22:52] <guideX> it's just so painfully slow, i'm looking for an alternate way to get to it
[22:52] <tekk> right… i've just created an ubuntu-spin-off from one of the core i7 mac mini's as an ISO and using ubiquity install
[22:52] <tekk> works nicely :)
[22:53] <tekk> installing on the i5 now… i'll host it somewhere for everyone else
[22:53] <SonikkuAmerica> ClientAlive, good luck with the Google-fu, it'll confirm what I said. You don't lose a thing. :)
[22:53] <scott_puopolo> jhutchins_wk: 12.04 was using 'wl' as default for my wireless chipset but it didn't work, my attempt to use b43legacy was being 'blocked' by 'wl'
[22:54] <raven_> how to close cvlc on 404 error?
[22:54] <guideX> so no way to get ssh on it or
[22:54] <scott_puopolo> jhutchins_wk: so i'm trying to learn how to blacklist 'wl', enable 'b43legacy', and make these changes permanent (which files do i alter)
[22:54] <jrib> guideX: did you read the guide that ubottu sent you?  It tells you how to enable ssh access
[22:55] <guideX> lokl this guide is huge
[22:56] <scott_puopolo> i can do it manually at each startup but i'm trying to make the change take affect permanently (will help me to understand process also)
[22:56] <guideX> why must everything be so complex :(
[22:56] <genii-around> scott_puopolo: I believe I explained if you put wl in /etc/modprobe/blacklist.conf  and put b43legacy in /etc/modules that this should work, without having to know about how udev is working underneath
[22:56] <guideX> every time I need to do something there's another 10 page guide to read
[22:57] <jrib> scott_puopolo: please realize that unless you are having a conversation with someone (by prefixing what you say with their nick) that you should assume we have a 0-line memory
[22:57] <ClientAlive> SonikkuAmerica: Hey, if that's true then FANTASIK! I love it. But it really doesn't make logical sense. Why would they make it for nothing? Anyhow, I'm trying seeing what I can find and if you can confirm it would be appreciated. You deff. get an apology if you can prove me wrong.
[22:58] <scott_puopolo> genii-around:  thank you so much for this; i think i was using a file called modprobe-b43legacy.conf but it didn't seem to work, i will try your suggestion!
[22:58] <jrib> guideX: what page are you reading exactly?
[22:58] <guideX> configuring
[22:58] <guideX> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Configuring
[22:59] <jrib> guideX: why don't you start with the install instructions? https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/openssh-server.html
[22:59] <SonikkuAmerica> ClientAlive, I was talking in terms of "it doesn't remove any packages that might already exist on the system." :)
[23:01] <scott_puopolo> jrib, genii-around, jhutchins_wk:  thank you all for your help!
[23:02] <ClientAlive> SonikkuAmerica: ok. But perhaps it provides some functionality that I might not like to lose. So I'm seeing some component of it called ubuntu-recommends -> http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/u/ubuntu-meta/ubuntu-meta_1.267/changelog <- where it appears it's being used to group applications they want to come with a default install (tying things togeter). I'm wondering if that is a file which can be edited to disconnect
[23:02] <ClientAlive> ubuntu-desktop from particular application then can remove the app without effecting ubuntu-desktop.
[23:02] <jroo> i just installed last night linux lite and i noticed that my internet is much slower than ubuntu is there a way to speed it up
[23:02] <jrib> jroo: this channel is for ubuntu support, not sure what linux lite is
[23:02] <jroo> ok
[23:03] <SonikkuAmerica> ClientAlive: That it won't. If it sees a metapackage dependency disappears, there goes ubuntu-desktop, but you don't lose anything else other than the app. That's because ubuntu-desktop is a METAPACKAGE.
[23:05] <ClientAlive> SonikkuAmerica: cool. by chance do you have some link I can understand what a meta package is? I know what meta data is (conceptually) but not sure how it is applied in a real system.  I found something -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MetaPackages
[23:06] <ClientAlive> thank you sir
[23:07] <bel3atar> widad-charai: choufi ch7al ta3 lbachar lay7fed
[23:08] <bel3atar> everybody welcome widad-charai
[23:08] <ClientAlive> SonikkuAmerica: So what is this guy doing when he says "Removed rarian-compat from desktop": http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/u/ubuntu-meta/ubuntu-meta_1.267/changelog
[23:08] <ClientAlive> As in "removed from..."
[23:09] <SonikkuAmerica> That just means they dropped the rarian libraries from being a dependency for that package.
[23:09] <SonikkuAmerica> It's needed for other stuff, so if you happen to install said other stuff, the rarian libraries (librarian) will be installed with other stuff.
[23:10] <widad-charai> need help plz i have a problem with my ubuntu. i'll join a photo. and in my empathy, it refuses to launch "My acount" i want to add an account but it refuses.
[23:10] <widad-charai> the photo is here [23:12] <widad-charai> need help plz i have a problem with my ubuntu. i'll join a photo. and in my empathy, it refuses to launch "My acount" i want to add an account but it refuses. the photo is here [23:12] <DeadWeasel> ubuntu 12.04 LTS desktop:   when I move something to ~/.gnupg/   how does it know where to look?
[23:12] <widad-charai> need help plz i have a problem with my ubuntu. i'll join a photo. and in my empathy, it refuses to launch "My acount" i want to add an account but it refuses.  plz responce in private.
[23:13] <larst> Hi all
[23:17] <bel3atar> widad-charai: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/1067901
[23:18] <bel3atar> widad-charai: try installing gnome-control-center-signon
[23:19] <randypopabawa> Hey. Anyone had luck installing Ubuntu on a laptop preloaded with Windows H8?
[23:19] <bel3atar> widad-charai: u there?
[23:20] <widad-charai> yes i'm here but someone help me
[23:20] <randypopabawa> I've tried disabling Secure Boot and switching to CSM, Legacy, all of them.
[23:20] <randypopabawa> No luck
[23:20] <widad-charai> wait
[23:20] <bel3atar> widad-charai: try installing gnome-control-center-signon
[23:20] <randypopabawa> It just hangs at the Ubuntu loading screen
[23:20] <bel3atar> widad-charai: sudo apt-get install gnome-control-center-signon
[23:21] <skp1> where are fonts located?
[23:21] <bel3atar> skp1: /usr
[23:22] <genii-around> skp1: Also ~/.fonts
[23:24] <francesca> Hi, new here! I'm installing Ubuntu 12.04 mini.iso (non-PAE) and have been asked  “Wireless ESSID and eth1”. How do I find these informations?
[23:26] <randypopabawa> anybody?
[23:27] <SonikkuAmerica> randypopabawa: What?
[23:28] <Shaan> hey guys what would the command be to create a file and write a text basicly i want to create a file.txt and write
[23:28] <Shaan> "perlworld" in it
[23:28] <jrib> Shaan: echo perlworld > file.txt     (WARNING: if file.txt exists in the current directory already, it will be destroyed)
[23:28] <Shaan> okay cool thanks jrib :)
[23:29] <SonikkuAmerica> Echo? Not cat?
[23:29] <SonikkuAmerica> No, wait: cat is concatenate
[23:29] <francesca> nick idefix
[23:30] <randypopabawa> Secure Boot help
[23:30] <randypopabawa> Trying to install Ubuntu on a system that came with 8
[23:31] <mandoguit> idefix:   I see you made it OK  :)
[23:33] <SonikkuAmerica> randypopabawa, try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[23:33] <ForSpareParts> Anyone know how to get a "slide-in" animation for Guake in 12.10? The compiz plugins that used to do it have been phased out.
[23:35] <roasted> I'm having a brain fart. I remember someone telling me about an rsync command that continually runs all of the time, thereby making the source and destination operate in a mirrored fashion. I thought it was async or something like that, but I can't remember. Anybody know what I'm referring to offhand?
[23:38] <kiwi37021> .
[23:39] <Muelli> hm. dunno roasted. but it probably uses inotify then. Maybe that'll help you find your thing.
[23:40] <Shaan> jrib: lets say i wanted to go to the next line and write another word there too then?
[23:40] <jrib> Shaan: you can append to a file with: echo foobar >> file
[23:41] <Shaan> oh perfect thank you
[23:42] <pewter_tao> did ubuntu just change a bunch of stuff from /usr/local/bin to /usr/bin?
[23:43] <jrib> pewter_tao: no.  Apt should never be touching /usr/local/bin
[23:44] <pewter_tao> tnx :)
[23:45] <roasted> Is there a way to run rsync as a daemon so it'll continually sync source to destination 247?