[01:18] <MythbuntuGuest67> hi
[01:18] <MythbuntuGuest67> just wanted to know if mythbuntu support raid0
[01:18] <MythbuntuGuest67> nvidia raid controller
[01:27] <Technophil> Anyone here in a HD region where analogue has now been switched off?  I am interested whether there remains a broadcast overscan allowance?
[01:28] <Technophil> Any when that ~5% (each side x4) overscan margin will no longer be included?
[01:35] <[James]> Anyone know why I cant get mythtv to play my dvds?
[03:45] <MythbuntuGuest30> Anyone have the history of the last 9 hours they wouldnt mind paste binning?
[03:56] <mpontillo> jimmypopali: http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/d4d86724e - only good for a day, get it while it lasts
[04:14] <mpontillo> *forgot this channel was logged* of course, I should have pointed you here: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/08/13/%23ubuntu-mythtv.html and http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/08/12/%23ubuntu-mythtv.html
[05:57] <[James]> My mythtv isnt controlling the vollume. Anyone know how to fix it? Im using the ALSA default
[06:33] <[James]> Is anyone here?
[06:47] <Shadow__X> [James]: look into the frontend setup
[06:47] <Shadow__X> i believe mythfrontend setup then general setup
[06:47] <[James]> I have
[06:48] <Shadow__X> in one of those menu's there are audio options
[06:48] <Shadow__X> you need to change it
[06:48] <[James]> I just cant figure out which audio thing to use
[06:48] <Shadow__X> for me i have had to switch it to alsa
[06:49] <[James]> Mine is on ALAS default and it wont control the volume
[06:49] <Shadow__X> for audio to control to work in myth you need to change the mixer devices
[06:53] <[James]> youre the bomb man
[06:53] <[James]> got it working
[06:53] <Shadow__X> its just experience
[06:53] <[James]> now you dont know how to install themes do you?
[06:54] <Shadow__X> if you are running ubuntu goto synaptic
[06:54] <Shadow__X> and search mythtv
[06:54] <Shadow__X> there should be a bunch of themes there
[06:54] <Shadow__X> select them and install them
[06:55] <[James]> what does it mean if theres a green box next to them
[06:56] <Shadow__X> you selected mythtv-themes then it selected a bunch of them right
[06:57] <[James]> so if its got a green box its marked to be installed right?
[06:57] <Shadow__X> yes it should be
[06:58] <[James]> ok maybe you can help me with this too
[06:58] <[James]> I cant get my setup to play dvds
[06:58] <[James]> know anything about that
[06:58] <[James]> I havnt been able to find anything through googe
[06:59] <Shadow__X> uh well i had a problem where no dvd's would play
[06:59] <Shadow__X> my solution was to buy a sata dvdrom
[06:59] <Shadow__X> and all is well
[06:59] <Shadow__X> but thats because the drive i was using was on its way out
[07:00] <[James]> ah man I dont want to have to buy a drive
[07:00] <[James]> It shows up on the desktop but wont play
[07:03] <[James]> Hey something new now
[07:03] <[James]> It says I require a DVD source plugin
[07:05] <Shadow__X> yeah just go on mythbuntu's site it should give you directions for dvd play back
[07:05] <Shadow__X> or atleast thats where i think you have to go
[07:06] <Shadow__X> because you need to install a thing or two for dvd play back
[07:08] <Shadow__X> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythDVD
[07:14] <Shadow__X> [James]: goto mythbuntu control center and you can install codecs there
[07:14] <[James]> ok
[07:14] <[James]> Ive already installed all of those
[07:15] <Shadow__X> try to watch a dvd outside of mythtv
[07:17] <[James]> yeah I have been
[07:17] <[James]> I cant
[07:19] <Shadow__X> hmm thats a no good
[07:20] <Shadow__X> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[07:22] <Shadow__X> that should help you and get it playing
[07:22] <Shadow__X> i am off for the night
[07:23] <[James]> Well
[09:34] <genuinedan> getting the error message  "cannot log into data base?"
[09:34] <genuinedan> do i have to create an sql database for this?
[09:35] <genuinedan> obvioulsy i am missing something.....
[11:16] <eidoslinux> can someone help me with some problems with mythtv and kworld 120 under ubuntu 9.04
[13:38] <MythbuntuGuest05> Hello, I've got a small problem with setting up Wake On LAN from my frontend to the backend.
[13:39] <MythbuntuGuest05> When I set the Wake On Lan option from the frontend setup and enter the command it doesn't stick
[13:39] <MythbuntuGuest05> When I go back into setup the option is cleared again.
[13:39] <MythbuntuGuest05> Thanks
[15:06] <ball> Could a flash installation of Mythbuntu be configured not to use swap?
[15:08] <Daviey> ofc.
[15:09] <Daviey> Although suspend to disk will be fun. :)
[15:10] <ball> Daviey: I'll probably build it green enough to let it doze when it's not being used.
[17:21] <RegressLess> Is there not a pdf reader in Mythbuntu? How do I get one so I can read the manual?
[17:54] <superm1> RegressLess, i don't believe we actually include one.  guess that's a bit of an oversight and overzealous thinking that someone would read the PDF on a different box
[17:54] <superm1> you can install evince for now
[17:55] <superm1> or xpdf or similar
[18:20] <RegressLess> superm1: figured it out with apt-get install xpdf
[18:21] <RegressLess> now I'm stuck on the "Capture cards" window in mythtv setup
[18:23] <superm1> stuck like it froze?
[18:24] <RegressLess> no buttons, but I figured out esc works :P
[18:25] <superm1> oh they must be getting cut off the screen
[18:25] <superm1> i've heard of that happening sometimes
[18:25] <RegressLess> yeah, widscreen tv here
[19:23] <RegressLess> How do I "show desktop"?


[00:00] <marcoceppi> bdx: okay, so this is for getting users to connect to a juju environment
[00:00] <marcoceppi> not like setting them in a charm
[00:01] <marcoceppi> bdx: you could just gpg encrypt the environment.yaml files and ship them to users ;)
[00:12] <bdx> marcoceppi: so yea...what I decided on for the time being was to extract the secrets from environments.yaml and in environments/<juju-envN>.jenv and add them to our hiera secrets (how we puppet secrets using gpg), then add the different juju environments.jenvs and environment.yaml as templates that get the secrets from hiera ....these will get puppeted into each users ~/.juju
[00:12] <marcoceppi> sounds good
[00:13] <marcoceppi> bdx: the way user credentials are managed in juju 2.0 should help this a bit. I think we'll talk more about it at the Summit if you're interested
[00:14] <bdx> marcoceppi: haha...if I'm interested.... I can't wait man!
[00:14] <marcoceppi> bdx: I think you'
[00:14] <marcoceppi> re going to like what we're cooking up for 2.0!
[00:17] <rick_h_> marcoceppi: bdx juat got off the phone with the folks doong that work
[00:17] <bdx> marcoceppi: I'm pumped for 2.0 and I don't even know any details :-)
[00:18] <rick_h_> marcoceppi: bdx we'll support both externalnauth files and per user juju credentials that'll fix this up for 16.04
[00:18] <marcoceppi> rick_h_: awesome! we should have a "juju 2.0 features" talk at the Summit
[00:19] <rick_h_> sharing a model won't need anything but a one liner with a one time password to share out
[00:19] <marcoceppi> I know I'm excited about it and a lot of us are looking forward to it
[00:19] <rick_h_> marcoceppi: definitely
[00:20] <rick_h_> bdx: so sorry to hear the problem you're having but also happy it's something we care a lot about fixing and a team is doing right niw
[00:20] <rick_h_> now
[00:21] <bdx> rick_h_: very exciting! .... I want feature set 2.0 NOW!
[00:21] <bdx> :-)
[00:21] <marcoceppi> bdx: there's a 1.26-alpha3 out now, and a 2.0-alpha1 coming out in a few weeks, check the list for details
[00:21] <bdx> always
[00:21] <marcoceppi> (1.26-alpha3 is basically 2.0-alpha0)
[00:22] <rick_h_> bdx: we'll have bit in the 2.0 alphas starting after the new year so keep an eyenout and give things a try
[00:22] <rick_h_> bdx: feedback isnalways great to have early and often
[00:23] <bdx> I've started the DHC conversion ....converted the staging version of 1 of 6 of our web applications to be juju deployed.... http://paste.ubuntu.com/14133640/
[00:24] <marcoceppi> bdx: epic
[00:24] <bdx> now I just need to figure out the fine details of how I will be sharing it throught our environment between devs and whatnot
[00:24] <bdx> getting it dialed
[00:25] <bdx> rick_h_: ^^I'm your man
[00:25] <marcoceppi> bdx: let us know if we can help with access stuff. fwiw, there is some early user control stuff in 1.25 that might help `juju help user`
[00:25] <marcoceppi> at least, I think that's in 1.25
[00:25] <marcoceppi> but 2.0 will make it stupid simple to have users connect to an environment
[00:26] <bdx> uggggh .... 2.0 is dropping alongside xenial?
[00:28] <bdx> marcoceppi, rick_h_: 2.0-alpha1 will have support for externalnauth files and per user juju credentials ?
[00:29]  * marcoceppi chceks his crystal ball
[00:32]  * marcoceppi has no idea
[00:32] <bdx> haha no worries
[00:33] <bdx> I'll be keeping an eye out
[00:33] <bdx> very exciting none the less
[00:33] <marcoceppi> bdx: I think alexisb or rick_h_ were going to publish a roadmap to the list, I think there's still some finalizations being made as to what the plan will be between now and April
[00:33] <marcoceppi> bdx: and yes, the plan is to have Juju 2.0 in Xenial and then backported to trusty
[00:33] <bdx> Thats great!
[00:37] <bdx> I have 2 lxd stacks in the testlab running on wily atm
[00:38] <marcoceppi> bdx: awesome!
[00:38] <marcoceppi> I just did my first lxd deploy
[00:41] <rick_h_> bdx: probably not that early. The work is just starting and the first work is some stuff around providing ootb cloud definitions
[00:41] <bdx> rick_h_: ok, I'll be looking out!
[00:41] <rick_h_> bdx: the goal is to split the cloud definitions/files from the user credentials from the actual juju user
[00:42] <rick_h_> bdx: e.g. if I bootstrap and share with you then you don't need anything to do with the cloud or how to connect to it, juju knows that
[00:42] <rick_h_> bdx: you just need to know how to auth to juju itself ans ask it to do things
[00:42] <rick_h_> bdx: so the work will start on the cloud end and the sharing part will be later on top of that
[00:43] <bdx> rick_h_: that makes total sense.... considering what I just went through sorting the secrets, and determining which ones are pertinent to the user, and which to the environment.... that seems like a grand solution
[00:44] <rick_h_> bdx: glad to hear it
[00:45] <bdx> rick_h_, marcoceppi: thanks for the great info! I'll be in touch!
[05:24] <blahdeblah> Someone was talking in here (I think) a while back about bootstrapping into LXC/LXD containers on MAAS-deployed nodes.  Can that person or persons ping me when they're around?
[09:29] <dweaver`> I'm doing an upgrade test of juju charms and openstack today, is there any documentation on the best ordering for the upgrades?
[10:02] <Walex2> dweaver`: wish you a lot, a lot of luck
[10:03] <dweaver`> Walex2, Yeah, thanks for that ;)
[10:08] <Bofu2U> +1
[10:09] <Bofu2U> everything i've seen just says to "update the release name in the charm" :|
[10:09] <Bofu2U> dweaver`: if you don't mind me asking, you using network bonds?
[10:14] <dweaver`> Bofu2U, no, relatively simple openstack deployment on about  6 machines, using 3 networks, but dedicated NICs (manually configured outside of MAAS and Juju).
[10:15] <Bofu2U> ah ok
[10:15] <Bofu2U> yeah I'm trying to get my interfaces file to work but having some trouble because of tagged/untagged on bridges through a bond
[10:16] <dweaver`> Just interested if anyone has a service upgrade ordering, I've seen some articles, but with Juju charms the process is slightly different.
[10:18] <dweaver`> I'm going to try: Rabbit, Mysql, Keystone, Glance, Cinder, Neutron-Api, Neutron-gateway, Nova-C-C, Nova-compute, ceilometer, heat.  Anyone disagree or know any better order, do let me know, otherwise, I'll probably publish the results at some point.
[10:52] <marcoceppi> dweaver`: that's as good an order as any
[13:08] <jam> jog_: ping?
[13:26] <dweaver`> marcoceppi, Thanks Marco, We're testing that order now. Upgrade is going OK, with several bugs in non-openstack charms, such as Mysql, Mongodb and Ceph, only 1 bug so far with the openstack charms, minor bug in neutron-api.  I'll submit all the bugs when we're done.
[14:40] <Walex2> dweaver`: at our site we have found that OpenStack is amazingly buggy, and Juju is slightly better. So I wish you a lot of luck with OpenStack :-)
[14:57] <marcoceppi> dweaver`: I just started rewriting the mongodb charm for xenial, what problems did you run into?
[15:01] <dweaver`> marcoceppi, When changing the source to the next cloud archive it did not update the apt sources file, hence there was no upgrade.
[15:02] <Mmike> dweaver`: which mongodb version were you expecting to get from cloud archive?
[15:04] <dweaver`> marcoceppi, then there seems to be possibly another issue, which I would have to confirm, that when packages are updated there is an "apt-get install PACKAGE" which installs the latest package version, but only that package version, I don't think this mattered with mongodb, but it did with mysql as it just updated the mysql-server metapackage and not the mysql-server-5.5 package.
[15:04] <marcoceppi> dweaver`: ah, yeah
[15:05] <marcoceppi> dweaver`: the MySQL charm is next on my charms to rewrite
[15:09] <dweaver`> Mmike, we were using trusty juno cloud archive and upgrading to kilo cloud archive.  The mongodb version we ended up with was 1:2.4.9-1ubuntu2.
[15:09] <dweaver`> not sure if the version actually changed
[15:14] <dweaver`> So, is mongodb in the cloud archive?
[15:19] <dweaver`> Well, clearly not, now I check, which makes MongoDB outside the updates of the cloud archive and the setting "source" in the charm is misleading.  However, changing the source from juno to kilo cloud archive was not honoured.  And I saw similar behaviour with the ceph charm too, so not sure until I can isolate the logs if these are related or not.
[15:22] <alias_> Should juju 1.24.7 be able to connect to a vsphere environment? I following the manual and don't succeed? Can someone lend me a hand?
[15:24] <alias_> When bootstrapping I currently receive the following error: "failed to create new client: Post<EMAIL_ADDRESS>dial tcp: unknown port tcp/Hv"
[15:24] <alias_> I'm just following juju docs, so what am I missing here?
[15:29] <marcoceppi> alias_: not sure, but could it be you need to include the port for your vSphere API server?
[15:30] <alias_> marcoceppi: It's just 443 but I'll give it a shot


[04:59] <fdassdff> Question about bzr
[05:00] <fdassdff> I want a directory that I can throw random python scripts into and be able to do version control
[05:00] <fdassdff> But it's not really part of an overall "project"
[05:00] <fdassdff> Is there a way to set that up?
[05:01] <Peng> "bzr init" in the directory?
[05:02] <fdassdff> Peng, and then what's the process to register files and have them reflected in the version control?
[05:02] <fdassdff> The bzr quick reference card assumes that I'm going to be working on an overall project
[05:02] <Peng> What's "an overall project"?
[05:03] <fdassdff> For example, the doc here: http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/bzr.2.6/en/_static/en/bzr-en-quick-reference.pdf says I should do "bzr init myproject" to create a new project
[05:03] <fdassdff> But I'm not working on a project, I've just got some python scripts that I mess with every so often and I want to be able to roll back any changes that I make if they turn out to be bad
[05:04] <fullermd> "my random crap" is a project...
[05:04] <Peng> "bzr init directory_with_some_python_scripts" then.
[05:04] <Peng> if the directory already exists, you can cd to it and "bzr init".
[05:04] <fdassdff> Ah ok
[05:04] <Peng> The proceed like normal, "bzr add"ing your files and such.
[05:04] <fdassdff> That makes sense I guess
[05:05] <fdassdff> I wasn't expecting it to work like that
[05:05] <Peng> There isn't a concept of a Project -- that's just what that guide called it.
[05:05] <fdassdff> The only times that I've used it have been in conjunction with launchpad
[05:06] <fullermd> Yeah, bzr doc "project" doesn't have anything to do with LP "Project".
[05:06] <Peng> You don't have to interact with Launchpad at all if you don't want to :)
[05:07] <fullermd> (For that matter, LP Project doesn't have anything to do with bzr, except insofar as it can include 0..n bzr branches)
[05:07] <fdassdff> Thanks both of you
[05:07] <fdassdff> I appreciate the help for a newbie


 I found a bug in firefox just started today...
 https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9Vp59NCGPF/
 after discoverer updates today...firefox crashes plasma...see https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9Vp59NCGPF/
 when I try ubuntu-bug firefox...again plasma crashes
 maybe I need to change my  default browser to opera and try ubuntu-bug again...
 I changed my browser to opera...
 and still, got a crash in plasma


[14:51] <piratemurray> hi there everyone!
[14:52] <piratemurray> i have a quick question if anyone could help
[14:52] <piratemurray> i'm a bit new to bazaar. i have a version of the UMP on my hard drive from a while ago, but i'm wondering how to update this to the latest version
[14:53] <piratemurray> i'm familiar with SVN and (don't laugh) clearcase where i can do an update
[14:53] <piratemurray> is there an equivalent in bzr speak?


[00:38] <lazyPower> JonathanD: referring to workspaces?
[09:26] <rmg51> Morning
[09:47] <JonathanD> lazyPower: yes.
[11:05]  * waltman *YAWNS*
[12:07] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, dogs, turkeys, hamster and everything else
[12:26] <JonathanD> lazyPower: I don't like the way it collapses screens into workspaces when I disconnect an extern monitor.
[13:12] <MutantTurkey> dogs yes
[13:12] <MutantTurkey> turkeys yes
[13:12] <MutantTurkey> no hamsters here
[13:12] <MutantTurkey> unless you mean KyleYankan
[13:13] <KyleYankan> you wish
[13:15] <MutantTurkey> :p
[13:15] <MutantTurkey> anyone used webalizer or any other visualizer?
[13:20] <teddy-dbear> MutantTurkey: it's my term for the ham operators in here
[13:20] <teddy-dbear> and KyleYankan is one of them
[13:21] <KyleYankan> oooh, nice.
[13:21] <KyleYankan> What's up?
[13:24] <MutantTurkey> can't get this webilizer to work
[13:24] <MutantTurkey> http://home.ceux.org/t/
[13:24] <MutantTurkey> only generates one month  of logs
[13:24] <MutantTurkey> and ignores myother records
[13:24] <MutantTurkey> very annoying
[13:30] <lazyPower> o/
[13:37] <MutantTurkey> js having a 4 letter domain is suweeet
[13:42] <MutantTurkey> alright
[13:42] <MutantTurkey> js
[13:42] <MutantTurkey> who knew ESR was a libertarian?
[13:42] <MutantTurkey> not me... but makes me damn happy


[13:27] <abiogenesis> Hi guys. I have Ubuntu 14.04 with custom 2.6.35 kernel. I have noticed that systemd-udevd process uses 100% CPU. Any hints?
[13:28] <abiogenesis> All packages are upgraded
[13:40] <abiogenesis> strace -p <pid of udevd> shows infinite loop of this: accept4(3, 0, NULL, SOCK_CLOEXEC|SOCK_NONBLOCK) = -1 ENOSYS (Function not implemented)
[13:50] <abiogenesis> ok...fixed by patching the kernel as suggested here http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/78385/udevd-eats-too-many-cpu-cycles