[09:04] <macogw> norty: ok in the users & groups thing, try making your postgresql user be # 112 instead of whatever it is now
[09:05] <Ergo^> :]
[09:06] <norty> macogw, how do i set a user id.. ?
[09:06] <mark[oz]> fellas
[09:06] <macogw> norty: you're on a normal gui system, right?
[09:07] <macogw> norty: not a server with all command line?
[09:07] <norty> yes
[09:07] <macogw> norty: go to system -> administration -> users & groups
[09:08] <macogw> norty: and bear with me because i think the tool is slightly different on my computer since i'm running the development version of ubuntu
[09:08] <macogw> norty: manage groups
[09:08] <macogw> norty: click on postgresql
[09:08] <macogw> norty: then properties
[09:08] <macogw> norty: and set the group id number to 112
[09:08] <macogw> norty: it should at least be *close* to those names for the buttons
[09:09] <Daniel^> im running a realvnc server on my vista laptop, but for some reason i cant connect to it from my ubuntu laptop, with krdc, anybody knows why?
[09:09] <Daniel^> i have disabled firewalls etc.
[09:10] <jimcooncat> Daniel, try telnet laptop-ip-number 5900 and see if you get any kind of vnc message
[09:11] <dfstefan> hello
[09:11] <vallhalla> can any see this?
[09:11] <lesshaste> how do I install the ati restricted graphics drivers?
[09:12] <prince_jammys> !ati | lesshaste
[09:12] <ubotwo> lesshaste: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:12] <norty> macogw, i tried that but everytime i set it and then go back in to look to see if it stayed it goes b ack to its original id which is 1001
[09:12] <rosebuntu> hi, everybody
[09:12] <dfstefan> could please somebody ... give me a hint,,, on why i can't start install of ubuntu for 32 bits procs on an amd turion x64 ?
[09:12] <lesshaste> prince_jammys, thanks.. at one point ubuntu offered them to me
[09:13] <lesshaste> prince_jammys, but it doesn't anymore
[09:13] <rosebuntu> hey guys, where are you from?
[09:13] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> dfstefan, dl the i386 livecd and install from it
[09:13] <dfstefan> i did ...
[09:13] <dfstefan> it doesn't start
[09:14] <jimcooncat> rosebuntu: there's 1130 users here, that might take a while
[09:14] <dfstefan> i mean ... i get the screen with start or install ubuntu and rest of options
[09:14] <norty> Does anyone know how i can change the UID of a user?
[09:14] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> dfstefan, then what happened?
[09:14] <dfstefan> but when i hit enter on options .. it starts loading untill a point and then it freeses
[09:15] <macogw> norty: its actually a group ID i think
[09:15] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> dfstefan, try the safegraphic mode?
[09:15] <macogw> norty: it doesnt save?
[09:15] <norty> macogw, no
[09:15] <dfstefan> same
[09:15] <macogw> norty: weird...but it does ask for your password, right?
[09:15] <dfstefan> i have ordered the cd ... and then downloaded a version
[09:15] <dfstefan> same result on both cd's
[09:16] <norty> macogw,  yes, when i click on the postgres user it says UID is 1001 and its grayed out and i can't change it, but when i go to manage groups and click on postgres and i change the group UI it changes but when i close everything and go back it goes back to 1001 not 112
[09:16] <macogw> norty: but the GID stays 112?
[09:17] <macogw> norty: or do both go to 1001?
[09:17] <jimcooncat> dfstefan: you may need alternate or mini-iso install
[09:17] <macogw> norty: because 1001 usually means *you*
[09:17] <dfstefan> hum ... where can i get those from ?
[09:17] <norty> macogw, the GUI that change goes back to 1001 and the UID of postgres stays 1001 the entire time
[09:18] <prince_jammys> norty: try creating a user with id 112
[09:18] <prince_jammys> maybe
[09:19] <mactimes> Hello everyone.  Is there a way I can enable remote desktop to let me access a computer remotely, i.e. through VNC, but at logon screen, not being necessary to logged in and enabling remote desktop from that account?
[09:19] <jimcooncat> dfstefan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[09:19] <dfstefan> jimcooncat, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD this is good ?
[09:19] <prince_jammys> norty: is there currently a user with id 112?
[09:19] <dfstefan> :) thank you
[09:19] <norty> no
just edit the group file --- done -- 2 secs
[09:20] <norty> prince_jammys, ok i created the user and now it says the group 120 doesn't exist anymore..
just edit the group file --- done -- 2 secs
[09:20] <jimcooncat> dfstefan: yes, it takes a long time, for the actual installation; but less overall than dl the full install then installing.
[09:20] <ukkopekka> little while after boot my usb suddenly stops working. its annoying to use historical ps2. I've searched solution from forums and lists but havent found any.
[09:20] <prince_jammys> norty: eek
[09:20] <rdsr> hey... does anyone know how to use the package mit-scheme-dbg
[09:21] <dfstefan> i see. thank you
[09:21] <dfstefan> i will try that
[09:21] <rdsr> I have installed it .... but couldn't figure out how to use it
[09:21] <jimcooncat> dfstefan: If possible do it at work or school where you'd have a second computer to look up questions or get back here for help
 use your fav editor and edit /etc/group
[09:21] <dfstefan> doing that now ... i am at home
[09:22] <dfstefan> thank you jimcooncat
[09:22] <rdsr> hey... does anyone know how to use the package mit-scheme-dbg
[09:22] <jimcooncat> dfstefan: you've already seen there might be something stopping you, so expect a glitch somewhere. yw
[09:22] <dfstefan> eh
[09:22] <prince_jammys> norty: might as well try the install/uninstall you were doing earlier
[09:22] <dfstefan> but ,,, i don't understand why the x64 version worked
[09:23] <norty> insmod, ok that worked now my error is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59116/
[09:23] <norty> .. grr
[09:23] <jimcooncat> dfstefan: I can't either. is it hardy, gutsy, or dapper?
[09:23] <dfstefan> gutsy
[09:24] <jimcooncat> dfstefan: no clue, I installed gutsy 32 on an amd64 just fine
 looks like you should just start it manually
[09:25] <jimcooncat> dfstefan: maybe some wierdness with the display drivers
[09:25] <dfstefan> i have an asus f3tc laptop
 if thar=t works move it later in the rc file
[09:25] <dfstefan> with nvidia geforce 7300 video card
[09:25] <norty> insmod, what?
[09:26] <macogw> norty: it keeps trying to start postgres after it tries to configure it, he suggested starting it so it doesnt try to do it
[09:26] <jimcooncat> dfstefan: that sounds reasonable. the install you'll do is more manual, so you'll see more of the error messages that might give you a clue if it binds up
 the rc.d init failed -- no biggy just start it in init.d then redo a good rc file if it works
[09:27] <norty> insmod, sorry i dont konw what you mean - im a linux newbie
[09:27] <norty> macogw, ok how might i do that?
[09:27] <macogw> norty: i dont know what he's talking about now
[09:27] <legend2440> dfstefan: did you try the different boot options by hitting the Fn keys from the livecd menu screen?
[09:27] <dfstefan> i just gaved it another try ... changed the display to max it allowed me when pressed F4
[09:27] <macogw> norty: i thought he was talking about doing "sudo /etc/init.d/postgresql start" but maybe not
[09:28] <dfstefan> seems it passed the load screen
[09:28] <rouini> hi there is there any 3d games for Ubuntu 7.10
[09:28] <dfstefan> the one with horizontal bar
[09:28] <jimcooncat> norty, you got any data worth saving?
[09:28] <dfstefan> now ... it's a black screen
[09:28] <coincoin169> rouini
[09:28] <coincoin169> yes
ls /etc/init.d
[09:28] <coincoin169> world of padman.com
[09:28] <norty> jimcooncat, now i have everything backped up in a txt file
[09:29] <znlchicay> comment les gars???
[09:29] <dfstefan> 1 step forward lol
[09:29] <rouini> can give me the name of any 3d games
[09:29] <norty> insmod, this is the error it says in the log file  : 2008-03-10 04:22:27 CDT FATAL:  could not access private key file "server.key": Permission denied
ya
[09:29] <norty> insmod, ok i did ls /etc/init.d .. what now?
[09:30] <jimcooncat> norty, you should just reinstall then after purging everything. sudo aptitude purge postgresql && sudo aptitude install postgresql
[09:30] <macogw> rouini: frets on fire
 and if it works just redo a new rc file
[09:30] <macogw> rouini: its like guitar hero
[09:30] <julle> rouini: wow
[09:30] <znlchicay> Mais personne ne parle fancais ici???
[09:30] <prince_jammys> !fr | znlchicay
[09:30] <ubotwo> znlchicay: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:30] <norty> jimcooncat, i tried purging but im getting this error and its not letting me purge
[09:30] <macogw> rouini: i use an Xplorer 360 to play it :)
[09:30] <jimcooncat> norty maybe postgres isn't shutting down?
[09:31] <znlchicay> Ok merci
[09:31] <macogw> rouini: i assume Quake, Doom, and Unreal Tournament are 3D.  they're all linux-native
[09:31] <rouini> thank you so much
[09:32] <macogw> rouini: you can play some Windows games in Wine too.  I know World of Warcraft is popular among Ubuntu users
[09:32] <prince_jammys> rouini: open arena, also
[09:32] <norty> jimcooncat, postgres isn't running
[09:32] <macogw> rouini: Tremulus for aliens v. humans
[09:32] <jimcooncat> norty, what's your error please
[09:32] <norty> macogw, any ideas ?
[09:32] <prince_jammys> norty: what about trying to reinstall it and then remove it?
[09:33] <norty> jimcooncat, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59116/
[09:33] <legend2440> rouini: http://www.linux.org/apps/all/Entertainment/3D_Games.html
[09:33] <norty> prince_jammys, its already installed
[09:33] <prince_jammys> norty: yes, but the installation is messed up apparently
[09:33] <norty> but for some reason i am getting an error when i try to install other stuff
[09:33] <norty> prince_jammys, if i could just purge and remove everything related to postgres and reinstall that is what i want to do
[09:33] <macogw> prince_jammys: it's a permissions problem because of some config files that were changed.  can't purge the config files now though :-/
[09:33] <rosebuntu> do you know KLDP?
[09:34] <prince_jammys> macogw: what aaout trying to reinstall the package, and then purge it?
sudo apt-get -f install
[09:34] <rouini> my computer is amd 64 dual core is my computer support such games
[09:34] <jimcooncat> norty: that's a startup error, not one you'd get from trying to uninstall
[09:34] <macogw> prince_jammys: well he's already reinstalled it once...
[09:34] <prince_jammys> ah
[09:35] <prince_jammys> i thought he reinstalled and then messed with the config files
[09:35] <norty> insmod, i keep getting the same error when i tried that command
[09:35] <macogw> prince_jammys: he said he had a "bad version" (the version where he broke the config) so he uninstalled and reinstalled hoping itd overwrite the broken config
[09:35] <norty> insmod, it seems to error when its trying to start up, how might i get it from trying to start right away?
[09:35] <erawfish_> norty: why do you use insmod?
[09:36] <norty> ?
[09:36] <prince_jammys> insmod is a nickname here
[09:36] <rouini> AMD is the best in games or Intel
[09:36] <HinHin> Does anyone know where does apt-get -d (download only) stores the packages?
sudo apt-get install postgresql
[09:37] <jimcooncat> permissions must be hosed somewhere, reinstall seems only real recourse. but you have to purge your old setup
[09:37] <erawfish_> HinHin: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[09:37] <erawfish_> rouini: this is OT
[09:37] <HinHin> erawfish_, ;) thanks
[09:37] <norty> insmod, ok that installed a new version of postgres..
 :)
[09:37] <norty> insmod, now what? should i try to purge everything now?
[09:38] <jimcooncat> rouini: your graphics driver is more important for games than cpu
[09:38] <Aranel> I bought a new 5 + 1 sound system but It doesnt give sound under Linux. I tried in Windows and it works.
 error should be fixed
[09:38] <Aranel> How can I use it with Linux ?
[09:38] <Linux_Fresher> !install
[09:38] <ubotwo> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[09:38] <norty> insmod, it is not fixed, same error exists
 ? restart then see
[09:39] <Linux_Fresher> !ntfs
[09:39] <ubotwo> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[09:39] <swombat> is there a script i can install on Xubuntu that will jiggle the mouse every minute if there hasn't been any activity, to keep the sleep mode from kicking in?
[09:39] <norty> ok
[09:39] <Linux_Fresher> !ntfs-issues
[09:39] <ubotwo> How should I know?
[09:39] <rosebuntu> hey, i want to get Vista theme for Ubuntu
[09:39] <macogw> swombat: why not turn off sleep mode?
[09:39] <rosebuntu> where can i foind it?
[09:39] <macogw> rosebuntu: gnome-look.org
[09:39] <swombat> macogw: tried, spent several hours trying all sorts of things to do that, and failed
 errr just turn it off
[09:39] <swombat> (that was a month ago, don't ask me what i tried)
[09:39] <rosebuntu> i can't find it in gnome.org
[09:40] <macogw> swombat: did you check power settings?
[09:40] <Linux_Fresher> i fail to understand the installation program of ubuntu :(
[09:40] <swombat> yes yes and yes to the next question too :-)
[09:40] <macogw> swombat: oh. re-check power settings
[09:40] <onnorokom> hello
[09:40] <swombat> nah, that i won't do, i don't have hours to try all the same things again
[09:40] <onnorokom> plz help me
[09:40] <mactimes> Is there a way I can enable "Remote Desktop" at GDM logon screen?
[09:40] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: why? you mark some checkboxes, stuff downloads and installs, you get on with life
[09:40] <prince_jammys> Linux_Fresher: again? did you try to reinstall?
[09:40] <swombat> hence my question... is there a script i can install on Xubuntu that will jiggle the mouse every minute if there hasn't been any activity, to keep the sleep mode from kicking in?
[09:41] <onnorokom> plz help me
 lol just delete the line from xorg.conf -- done
[09:41] <swombat> insmod: did that before, it didn't work
[09:41] <aditsu> hi, I'm trying to start cron on a ubuntu machine, but it says "fail"
[09:41] <onnorokom> insmod plz help me
[09:41] <swombat> there's something else somewhere deep inside xubuntu (and no, it's not the BIOS settings) that kicks in sleep mode
[09:41] <onnorokom> insmod plz help me
 and uninstall all screensavers
[09:41] <aditsu> where can I see the error details?
[09:41] <legend2440> rosebuntu: http://gnomestyle.blogspot.com/2007/05/make-ubuntu-look-like-vista.html
[09:41] <Linux_Fresher> prince_jammys yesterday i spent around 4 hours on it , but it always tries to overwrite my windows .. i have uploaded some screenshots of it .. i think i will buy a fresh HD and install it on that .. so that nothing is lost :)
[09:41] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: wait the thing for installing software in ubuntu or how to install ubuntu itself?
[09:41] <atlef> !ask | onnorokom:
[09:41] <ubotwo> onnorokom:: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
 you can also shut it off in bios for good -- best way
[09:42] <Linux_Fresher> macogw trying to install ubuntu from Live CD to my 80 GB hd
[09:42] <onnorokom> someone plz give me a site where i can found ubuntu software
[09:42] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: it should give you an option to use what's available. if it doesnt your windows stuff is spread too far out leaving no nice large empty chunk.  try defragging
[09:42] <rosebuntu> thank you, legend2440
[09:42] <norty> insmod, nope that didn't fix it, the error is still the same
[09:42] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: if that *still* doesn't work, use the manual partitioner
[09:42] <swombat> insmod: believe me. I did all these things and they did not work
[09:42] <swombat> so is there a script that does what i need?
[09:42] <legend2440> rosebuntu: yw
[09:42] <Linux_Fresher> macogw its all done, i have 15 gigs free, want to give ubuntu 5 gb of it
sudo synaptic
[09:42] <norty> insmod, do you know where i might edit the config file so that it doesn't try to start up, that seems to be where it errors
[09:43] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: hit "manual partitioner"
[09:43] <atlef> !synnaptic : onnorokom:
[09:43] <ubotwo> atlef: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[09:43] <v3ctor> swombat: there is obviously something you missed, but if you want such a script you will most likely have to write one
[09:43] <insmod> swombat : and get rid of the dot files
[09:43] <Linux_Fresher> macogw .. yup .. i get stuck at the step 4 of installation
[09:43] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: Linux_Fresher actually, first open a terminal and type "sudo gparted"
 rc
[09:43] <onnorokom> insmod i couldn't understand
[09:43] <norty> insmod, what is rc?
[09:43] <swombat> v3ctor: i'm sure there is, but i don't have all the hours going spare to figure out what that is.
[09:44] <swombat> insmod: what . files?
 the rc.0 files in /etc/
[09:44] <Linux_Fresher> macogw when i choose /dev/sda1   [ thats my 80 gb sata HD which is fully ntfs and has 15 gb free ] .. it gives a warning/info message saying that i have selected the whole drive .. there i am not sure if its gonna format the whole drive which I dont want to happen
[09:44] <v3ctor> swombat: will take you less time than finding a script that doesn't exist ;)
[09:44] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: run sudo gparted
[09:44] <swombat> if the answer is that the script does not exist, you're right
[09:44] <ctx144k> hello all
[09:45] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: we're going to resize the partition so you have a free chunk for ubuntu
[09:45] <ctx144k> i installed ubuntu on my pc
[09:45] <onnorokom> what is synnaptic insmod?
[09:45] <RabidWeezle> any xchat users? I lost my top menu, any hotkey to get it back?
[09:45] <norty> insmod, rc.local?
[09:45] <Linux_Fresher> macogw .. ok .. cool .. right now I am in windoz .. let me reboot to live cd
[09:45] <swombat> v3ctor: so that means this laptop is basically useless. oh well.
[09:45] <Linux_Fresher> brb
[09:45] <ctx144k> i see, that there are UUIDs in /etc/fstab
[09:45] <onnorokom> insmod i couldn't understand
[09:45] <onnorokom> what is synnaptic insmod?
[09:45] <jimcooncat> !synaptic | onnorokom
[09:45] <ubotwo> onnorokom: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[09:45] <insmod> swombat : any that use a gui or bakend -- i would just del all in your dir and recopy from skel
[09:45] <jimcooncat> little spelling glitch
[09:46] <ctx144k> are they workng too, if ill copy the disk via dd from one hda to sda for example?
[09:46] <swombat> insmod: why would that change anything?
[09:46] <norty> insmod, ok im in the rc file i dont know what to change.. any ideas?
 has programs to install
[09:47] <insmod> swombat : that is where it loads
[09:47] <oboy03> what does -f stand for in sudo apt-get install -f?
[09:47] <oboy03> fix?
[09:48] <swombat> hmm, iirc the sleep mode kicks in even when at the login screen
[09:48] <swombat> but i guess it's worth a try
[09:48]  * swombat logs out and waits to see if the sleep will still kick in
 http://www.netbsd.org/docs/guide/en/chap-rc.html
[09:48] <mactimes> oboy03: http://linux.die.net/man/8/apt-get  (fix broken packages)
[09:49] <mactimes> oboy03: /s/packages/dependencies
[09:49] <fx|RabBi2> hi all! how do i find out what dependencies openssl has? i dont find that on their homepage...
[09:49] <beerdeaap> ldd `which openssl`
[09:50] <fx|RabBi2> beerdeaap: ah very nice thank you, and can you maybe also tell me how to determine what requirements for a non installed version?
[09:51] <fx|RabBi2> beerdeaap: speaking in terms of wanting to update from 0.9.8c to 8g?
[09:52] <StiveG> is there any chan specific to Hardy?
[09:52] <cpk1> !hardy
[09:52] <ubotwo> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[09:52] <StiveG> have some bugs with latest updates...
[09:52] <StiveG> ok, thanks :)
 try You can also use update-rc.d script as follows (update-rc.d removes any links in the /etc/rcX.d directories to the script /etc/init.d/service):
[09:53] <insmod> # update-rc.d -f {SERVICE-NAME} remove
[09:53] <uzumakinaruto> can someone help me with using wget to get only a subset of pages from a site?
[09:53] <norty> insmod, i got it to stop trying to start automatically, it was a file in /etc/postgresql
[09:53] <norty> and that fixed the error
[09:53] <norty> now should i try to purge and remove everything?
no need once the service stops it should be ok
[09:54] <Byron> hi, i just bought a new screen, but i cant put the resolution up 1280x1050
[09:54] <Byron> and the screen keeps telling me i need to
[09:55] <Laughed> Hey guys, I was wondering... IF MS's answer to the Itunes app was its own Zune app, what does Linux have???
 add the option in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:55] <norty> insmod, but everytime i try to use apt-get it tries to setup the postgres installation that isn't complete
[09:55] <Byron> can someone help me out?
[09:55] <rosebuntu> Byron / you should insatll the driver for your video card
[09:55] <norty> insmod, i want to get rid of that incomplete installation
why not just remove it
[09:55] <norty> hiow
[09:55] <norty> how
[09:55] <Byron> insmod: i tried that, but it didnt make any differnce
[09:55] <norty> insmod, sudo apt-get remove postgresql-8.1 ?
[09:55] <Byron> rosebuntu: im using  the nvidia-glx
[09:56] <rosebuntu> all right
[09:56] <insmod> sudo apt-get remove postgresql
[09:56] <rosebuntu> Byron / you should the driver for nvidia
[09:56] <Linux_Fresher> back soz it took longer than expected .. please see this link -->http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotyz2.png
[09:56] <norty> insmod, but its only the 8.1 version i want to remove, not the 8.3 version, what will postgresql do? remove them both?
[09:56] <hindi> hi there, i have a problem using ice0.4 in ubuntu, can somebody help ?
[09:56] <Byron>  rosebuntu: what do you mean? is the one ubuntu provided not correct?
[09:57] <v3ctor> fx|RabBi2: the requirments should be in the INSTALL file
[09:57] <Linux_Fresher> i got stuck here because it says all current partitions will be removed .. will that make me lose all my data ?
 if you added it to defualt it has to
[09:57] <Byron> i've enabled the restricted driver
[09:57] <rosebuntu> Byron / glx is a common for all video card. you should install driver for nvidia
ya then reinstall the one you need -- or try sudo synaptic
[09:57] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: exit the installer and follow these directions
[09:57] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: http://pastebin.ca/936315
[09:57] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  kk
[09:59] <Byron> rosebuntu is that one i can get from the nvidia site?
[09:59] <macogw> Byron: did you try the one from the restricted driver manager?
[09:59] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  very very nicely given .. thanks .. btw i have 1 Gig ram, is that Ok for swap file ? so that 4 Gigs remain for ext3 file system ? i cant give anymore space to it .. just freshly learning linux atm
[09:59] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: yes, that's fine
[09:59] <Byron>  macogw: yes
[10:00] <Laughed> does anyone have the link for the lite iso version of ubuntu
[10:00] <macogw> Byron: ok if that one doesnt work, then try the one from nvidia.com
[10:00] <rosebuntu> Byron / yes, you should download it  from nvidia site
[10:00] <hindi> whatever i do when trying to run  ices -c /usr/local/etc/ices.conf.dist i get : Could not find a valid playlist file.
[10:01] <h40> hi!
[10:01] <h40> anyone here good at html and got a few spare minutes?
[10:01] <Byron> rosebuntu: ok im downloading NVIDIA-Linux-x86-169.12.pkg1.run
[10:01] <macogw> h40: whats up? im more used to xhtml these days, but sure
[10:01] <macogw> h40: this isnt really the channel for this though :P
[10:01] <h40> im trying to formulate a table, for a navbar
[10:02] <macogw> h40: O_o hello 1990s
[10:02] <h40> if you could point me in the right direction, thatd be great
[10:02] <Laughed> MOds: do you guys have the lionk for the lite version of ubuntu
[10:02] <Laughed> I cant find it
[10:02] <h40> im just used to getting great help here
[10:02] <macogw> Laughed: xubuntu?
[10:02] <Laughed> no, reg. there was a super lite ISO, I had the link but lost it
[10:02] <fx|RabBi2> if i want to install openssl v 0.9.8g but i have already 0.9.8c installed, do i have to remove that before installing?
[10:02] <macogw> h40: #html but really you should be separating style from content.  you can use an unordered list and some CSS
[10:02] <Laughed> and searches arent pulling up swuat
[10:02] <hindi> Here my question about ices again : whatever i do when trying to run  ices -c /usr/local/etc/ices.conf.dist i get : Could not find a valid playlist file.
[10:03] <macogw> h40: if you have the css in a separate file, changing just that one file can change the layout of every page on your site
[10:03] <hindi> Can somebody help on this ?
[10:03] <h40> im so clueless =[
[10:03] <h40> got a good website tutorial?
[10:03] <h40> for creating CSS
[10:03] <macogw> h40: if you'd like a recommendation for a book, Stylin' With CSS by Charles Wyke Smith is very good
[10:04] <macogw> h40: for CSS.... w3schools should have it
[10:04] <macogw> h40: that's best online reference
[10:04] <h40> ok cool
[10:04] <icesword> ah
[10:04] <Linux_Fresher> macogw: 2 Qs: 1- MiB is same as MB or MegaBytes or its something else ?  2: Free Space Preceding: =?  do i have to keep some preceding space ?
[10:04] <h40> ill check it out :-/
[10:04] <prince_jammys> h40: this is a good one too: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Guide/Overview.html
[10:04] <icesword> i cannot change my resolution
[10:04] <fx|RabBi2> h40:  google for selfhtml imho best webdesign howto ever...
[10:04] <icesword> i only can use 800X600
[10:04] <h40> sweet
[10:04] <h40> thx alot
[10:04] <h40> everyone
[10:04] <Laughed> nm, guys found it
[10:04] <h40> just to give u an idea
[10:04] <icesword> when i change to 1024X768,refresh rate turn to 0 hz
[10:04] <icesword> :(
[10:05] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: 1 MiB is "mebibyte" which is 1024 kilobytes, the old meaning for a megabyte. nowadays, megabyte officially means 1000 kilobytes because hard drive manufacturers like to cheat people out of storage space
[10:05] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: #2 no
[10:05] <_ruben> Laughed: JeOS is as light as you can get i guess
[10:05] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: thats only in case you want to make the partitions out of order
[10:05] <Byron> rosebuntu: its telling me to shutdown x before installing how do i do that?
[10:05] <macogw> Byron: ctrl alt f1 to get to a terminal, then "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[10:05] <h40> this is the image i made, and seperated already for a table
[10:05] <Byron> You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before
[10:05] <blankthemuffin> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:06] <Laughed> The miniisntall is 9mb
[10:06] <h40> http://www.ch40s.com/msr/img/navbar3.gif
[10:06] <icesword> i cannot change my resolution,i can only use 800X600.when i change to 1024X768,the refresh rate turn to 0 hz,so that is the thing,how to fix it,:(
[10:06] <Laughed> I just found it, ty
[10:06] <norty> Question: How do I completely get rid of a user in ubuntu 7.10 ?
[10:06] <macogw> h40: you want to use images of text instead of real text?
[10:06] <prince_jammys> !ot > h40
[10:06] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  excellent explaination :)
[10:06] <macogw> h40: so bad for accessibility....
[10:07] <icesword> i cannot change my resolution,i can only use 800X600.when i change to 1024X768,the refresh rate turn to 0 hz,so that is the thing,how to fix it,:(
[10:07] <macogw> prince_jammys: leave 'im be. i'm helping him out and i dont feel like joining #html just to do so
[10:07] <h40> accessibility? either way you click a button right?
[10:07] <icesword> sorry,i repeat
[10:07] <macogw> h40: if you're blind and you have a screenreader reading the text to you, the screenreader just says "there's an image"
[10:07] <macogw> h40: it doesnt tell them what the text on the image says
[10:07] <h40> ah ok
[10:07] <icesword> and when i open the monitor settings,it said unknown
[10:08] <macogw> h40: yes, blind people use the interwebs :)
[10:08] <h40> im just not good enough to do so much
[10:08] <h40> trying to keep it simple i guess :-/
[10:08] <h40> i will relieve this room of html chat though
[10:08] <h40> im checking those texts and sites out
[10:08] <h40> thx again
[10:08] <icesword> i cannot change my resolution,i can only use 800X600.when i change to 1024X768,the refresh rate turn to 0 hz,so that is the thing,how to fix it,when i open monitor resolutions settings,it said unknown
[10:09] <h40> i cant PM u
[10:09] <prince_jammys> h40: the texts explain "alt" tags which can go with your images for better accessibility
[10:09] <ZeuGiRDoR> Hello, I've a question: How can I change the screen resolution of the gnome login screen?
[10:09] <h40> k
[10:09] <h40> macogw: i see, great
[10:10] <macogw> h40: are you getting PMs?
[10:10] <h40> yeah but i cant send you
[10:10] <h40> any
[10:10] <macogw> h40: oh ok.
[10:10] <h40> unregistered
[10:10] <macogw> !register > h40
[10:14] <kadakas> Every time I install something on my Ubuntu 7.10, it breaks: programs will not start and after a reboot the whole system will not start - it just stays loading the start screen (showing only black screen and the mouse pointer). Does anyone know how to fix this?
[10:15] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  wow it seriously takes long time to finish :)
[10:15] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: what step is it on?
[10:15] <neville_> Is there software for Kubuntu that can find every image on ones hard disk?
[10:15] <Linux_Fresher> Move /dev/sda1 to the left and shrink it from 74.53 Gib to 69.53 gib
[10:16] <icesword> thank you ,you guys,my problem is fixed,i changed the screen model
[10:17] <icesword> coz i use virtual machine,compatibility is powerful,hehe
[10:17] <Byron> i just tried to install the nvidia driver and it told me i need libc install but apt-get said libc isnt a package
[10:17] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  done .. now making 1024 gb swap  pagefile
[10:18] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: 1024mb, you mean ;(
[10:18] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: * ;)
[10:18] <fx|RabBi2> what would be the oackage name of a development environment? (development libraries  and c header files)
[10:18] <Linux_Fresher> macogw: :) lol yup !!
[10:18] <mexle> <--geht mal essen und so gelle
[10:18] <icesword> !headers
[10:18] <ubotwo> To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages
[10:19] <insmod> -dev
[10:19] <WorkingOnWise> how can I male a removable hdd partition always mount to the same folder?
[10:19] <macogw> WorkingOnWise: gksu gedit /etc/fstab
[10:19] <insmod> how can I male a removable hdd????
[10:19] <macogw> WorkingOnWise: actually...here ill link you to a tutorial i did
[10:19] <blankthemuffin> mmm, the wireless on my laptop seems to be dropping out or something well regually. I restart networking and it works again for a while
[10:19] <chillitom> kernel updates have caused my graphics to screw up (screen is completely the wrong size and unusable), graphics card is intel 945
[10:19] <macogw> WorkingOnWise: http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com/2008/02/fun-with-etcfstab.html
[10:20] <chillitom> how can I reinstall/reconfigure them?
[10:20] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  it messed up .. it got terminated .. following message came in the terminal from where i had done sudo gparted  :( :(  --> little big .. pasting it to bin
[10:20] <Linux_Fresher> !pastebin
[10:20] <WorkingOnWise> macogw: thanks
[10:20] <ubotwo> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[10:20] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: http://pastebin.ca
[10:21] <Linux_Fresher> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59120/      .. i hope there is no data loss again >.<
[10:21] <fx|RabBi2> what would be the package name of a development environment? (development libraries  and c header files)
[10:21] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: did that happen on gparted or the installer?
[10:21] <fx|RabBi2> in other words what do i have to install to geht a development environment?
[10:21] <icesword> fx|RabBi2, that depends,what you are trying to compile
[10:22] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  whatever i am doing is to /dev/sda1 , it has no business with hdb ..     .. no like u said, i closed the installer, and this all is through gparted
[10:22] <fx|RabBi2> icesword:  i am trying to compile openssl
[10:22] <norty> Question: How do I completely get rid of a user in ubuntu 7.10 ?
[10:22] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: ok it probably jsut tried to mount it and wasnt allowed to.  go on to the installer
[10:22] <ks3> fx|RabBi2: build-essential is a good start
[10:22] <icesword> !headers | fx|RabBi2 ,don't know if it helps
[10:22] <ubotwo> fx|RabBi2 ,don't know if it helps: To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages
[10:23] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  starting .. also starting gparted again to see the status of my disks
[10:23] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: dont run 'em both at once. the installer has a partitioner so if anything didnt finish it can finish there.
[10:23] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: the installer will want to format / and swap anyway
[10:23] <pajamian> fx|RabBi2: I would: apt-get build-dep openssl
[10:23] <fx|RabBi2> ks3: icesword: hummkayyy... thanx so far,let me play with that...
[10:24] <icesword> k
[10:24] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  true, just want to make sure it hasned messed up hdb
[10:24] <fx|RabBi2> pajamian: aha thanx
[10:24] <co_manies> hello i'm eriel
[10:24] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: if you didnt tell it to touch hdb, it didnt
[10:24] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: it tries to automount everything when it finishes, and since you didnt tell it it could, it coldnt
[10:25] <firefly> wow
[10:25] <firefly> wow
[10:25] <firefly> µÈµÈ
[10:25] <pajamian> fx|RabBi2: you may need to enable the source repositories for that, but then it should install all the dependancies for openssl.
[10:25] <macogw> firefly: wow?
[10:25] <fx|RabBi2> pajamian:  its already working, thank you!
[10:25] <pajamian> fx|RabBi2: yw
[10:25] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  ok .. starting installer, btw following error appeared when I tried to start gparted again .. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59121/
[10:26] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: thats fine.  it's just saying you can *look* at the files on hdb but you're not allowed to do anything to them.  normal
[10:26] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: just go on with the install.
[10:27] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  okies, but this error wasnt there before, it started coming AFTER i resized partition on sda1 .. [ so it should have nothing to do with hdb ]
[10:27] <NET||abuse> Hey guys.. i'm trying to ge tmy ipod to connect up to my laptop here,, but no joy, i have regular need at times to reboot my laptop to get usb devices working again, is there a way to get usb back without rebooting?
[10:27] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: it's not really an error. its just letting you know that it's not touching hdb
[10:27] <icesword> macogw, what is Linux_Fresher doing
[10:27] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  thats cool then
[10:27] <macogw> icesword: partitioning
[10:28] <Linux_Fresher> icesword:  on a quest to install linux on HD through live cd .. trying to learn linux and let go of windows eventually :) .. i am as fresh as they come .. box-packed about linux
[10:28] <NET||abuse> at the moment, i plugin the ipod, and it doesn't work, in /var/log/messages if i run "modprobe -i ehci-hcd" it says usb 2.0 started 8 ports (there's only 2 though), device detected ports 2-5
[10:28] <NET||abuse> eugh,,, driver 10 dec 2004 ??? the what now? how old?
[10:29] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  ok,  i have reached step 4 of installer, so what to choose ? guided  entire disk [ no no] manual ?  go manual ?
[10:29] <macogw> NET||abuse: often there are internal usb ports you dont know about.  my friend's webcam thats built in is technically usb
[10:29] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: manual, as the directions i gave you say
[10:30] <NET||abuse> macogw, ok,, that's a possability,, even still,, i want my ipod to connect,, and it won't, infact nothing usb will work, my usb wireless mouse, an external WD passport II 160GB drive
[10:30] <lancerocke> Hi.... For some reason I cant open links from my IM client or XChat or even from my file browser (FE: open with Firefox). Any ideas?
[10:30] <icesword> macogw, so you mean i am here,to waste people's time,and done nothing useful
[10:30] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> how do i change permissions for a dir and its sub-dir?
[10:30] <macogw> icesword: huh?
[10:30] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> with command line
[10:30] <macogw> icesword: go read your PMs
[10:31] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  ya, but since gparted now keeps crashing,  i am stuck at 06. step of that pastebin instructions
[10:31] <pajamian> [Hardy]TuTUXG: chmod -R
[10:31] <prince_jammys> [Hardy]TuTUXG: chmod -R 755 the_dir   (755 is whatever you want of course)
[10:31] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: ok fine then use the partitioner in the intaller. i just think gparted is nicer
[10:31] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> pajamian, prince_jammys , thx
[10:31] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: the screenshot you linked before was that you were clicking on sda instead of sda1
[10:31] <icesword> macogw, i thought coz that time i said rm -rf / you are still angry with me.? now i regret,i don't mean it,
[10:32] <chillitom> X keeps booting from xorg.conf.failsafe without giving a reason, any ideas?
[10:32] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: but you've already resized sda1 so it's fine.  there should be a line that's about free space now
[10:32] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  yup, yesterday one guy told me here that dont touch sda1 , thats what i am doing wrong, that i am supposed to click sda and NOT sda1
[10:32] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: he was wrong
[10:32] <Linux_Fresher> >.<
[10:32] <lancerocke> For some reason I cant open links from my IM client or XChat or even from my file browser (FE: open with Firefox). Any ideas?
[10:33] <dj_> Ist hier jemand der deutsch kann?
[10:33] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: sda1 is your windows partition.  ive never resized a partition in the current installer. but there should be free space listed now?
[10:33] <macogw> !de | dj_
[10:33] <ubotwo> dj_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:33] <dj_> Danke schön
[10:33] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  ok, now i am at the step 4 screen , so the partition resizing seems to have gone well, new option 'free space' 5371 MB' has now appeared ..  i have to again split this one into 1024 mb and the rest for ext 3 ?
[10:34] <dj_> weil ich viele Iternet ardios nicht hören kann ich benötige hilfe
[10:34] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: yes
[10:34] <Itaku> how do i start sshd on ubuntu
[10:34] <chillitom> kernel updates have borked my gfx, any command to run to fix them? intel 945
[10:34] <macogw> Itaku: sudo /etc/init.d/sshd restart
[10:34] <Linux_Fresher> ok choosing freespace and click new partition table or click forward ?
[10:34] <Itaku> thanks
[10:34] <macogw> dj_: ich sproiken nein deutsch.  --> #ubuntu-de
[10:35] <Itaku> sudo: /etc/init.d/sshd: command not found
[10:35] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: new partition
[10:35] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  primary  or logical ?
[10:35] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: whatever takes your fancy
[10:35] <ks3> Itaku: have you installed the openssh-server package?
[10:36] <Itaku> er i think
[10:36] <Itaku> how do i reinstall it
[10:36] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  currently please dont leave decisions on me .. i have .0001 % of brain about all this as compared to what u have :)
[10:37] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: it doesnt matter.  it only matters if you're gonna have like 5 different OSes
[10:37] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: just go with primary to be easy
[10:37] <ks3> Itaku: apt-get install openssh-server, or apt-get --reinstall install openssh-server
[10:37] <blankthemuffin> "No ProbeResp from current AP ...... Assume out of range
[10:37] <Itaku> it said it is the latest version, then it reset it =S
[10:37] <blankthemuffin> :S
[10:38] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  kk,  next is new partition size in mb .. so 1 gb [1000 mb] there for swap file,  location for the new partition: beginning .. use as ext3 .. mount point field is empty
[10:38] <bowen0507> Hi, I am having problems with an external monitor on a Asus EEE PC. I am planning to use as a "Kiosk" type system. The problem is that sometimes when the system boots up to a blank screen but appears when the mouse or keyboard is moved or pressed. Also the external monitor (external) stops displaying the correct resolution at the same time. Anyone got any ideas on what I could try?
[10:38] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: for swap file, choose use as swap. swap has no mount point
[10:38] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: for the other one choose use as ext3. mount point is a /
[10:38] <jsoft> How do I know if ALSA is working properly?
[10:39] <jsoft> Im trying to get it working in wine
[10:39] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  kk .. will come back in 2 mins after doing these changes u said
[10:39] <macogw> jsoft: if your computer makes noises, it works
[10:39] <macogw> jsoft: if it cant make noises, it doesnt
[10:40] <icesword> hhehehe
[10:40] <sbaynham> jsoft: What precisely is the problem with alsa?
[10:40] <icesword> it is said alsa is not latest technology
[10:40] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  it worked .. now  'free space' option in main install window is 4367 mb,   it made a new one /dev/sda2 swap 1003 mb .. used:unknown  .. so i choose free space again .. and format it to ext3 ?   [ why do i have a feeling that every thing is going too smooth to be true ? ]
[10:41] <kadakas> Every time I install something on my Ubuntu 7.10, it breaks: programs will not start and after a reboot the whole system will not start - it just stays loading the start screen (showing only black screen and the mouse pointer). Does anyone know how to fix this?
[10:41] <kadakas> dmesg shows no errors
[10:41] <icesword> kadakas, if livecd works?and how do you install
[10:41] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: because you dont know how to trust computers due to too much time spent using windows
[10:41] <kadakas> livecd works
[10:41] <pajamian> kadakas: run memtest
[10:41] <kadakas> everything starts working when i restore /etc
[10:42] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  :)
[10:42] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  so i go ahead and choose 4367 mb free space and click new partition i guess
[10:42] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: yep
[10:42] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  first swap one was primary , so this one becomes logical or it can remain as primary too ?
[10:44] <hindi> i have a problem using ice0.4 in ubuntu .... can somebody help ?Here my question : whatever i do when trying to run  ices -c /usr/local/etc/ices.conf.dist i get : Could not find a valid playlist file.
[10:44] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  and mount point drop list was empty .. so i have put "/" there without quotes
[10:44] <lancerocke> For some reason I cant open links from my IM client or XChat or even from my file browser (FE: open with Firefox). Any ideas?
[10:44] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  will click OK after u reply to both above :)
[10:44] <hrw> someone know why Dapper default kernels does not boot in virtualbox?
[10:45] <pajamian> Linux_Fresher: that drop list never works for me either, you did it right, though.
[10:45] <Tooommi> Why does Firefox not delete the cache folder in /home whenever I oder it to do so?
[10:45] <Tooommi> order*
[10:45] <Linux_Fresher> pajamian:  and the first option ?  i have selected 1 gb swap partition as primary , so this second 4 gb one becomes logical or it can remain primary too ?
[10:45] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: primary too.  yes, that's fine. go ahead
[10:45] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  cool .. soz i thought u went afk
[10:46] <pajamian> Linux_Fresher: I usually put my swap partition at the end.
[10:46] <lancerocke> Anyone?
[10:46] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: i was helping someone with htm
[10:46] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: with html, i mean
[10:46] <bazhang> Tooommi: you can set it to do so every time you quit firefox, including cookies, history passwords, etc
[10:46] <Tooommi> bazhang: that's what I'm doing, but the cache is not deleted
[10:47] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  np m8 :) .. clicking  Forward key !!   [ i have butterflies now !! slowly i am sailing away from the sea of viruses malwares spywares and crappy WinDoz Os!! ]
[10:47] <pajamian> Linux_Fresher: you can make it primary or logical, it shouldn't matter.  That said, if you might end up with more than 4 partitions total then you need to create an extended partition and have some of them be logical (no more than 3 primary)
[10:47] <bazhang> Tooommi: you are quitting firefox and a window does not come up?
[10:47] <danand> Tooommi - Firefox has its cache folder in the ~/.mozilla dir. the ~/.cache folder is used by another app
[10:47] <macogw> pajamian: he's only gonna have 3 total
[10:47] <pajamian> then it doesn't matter
[10:47] <timob> hi, is it possible to suspend to ram when your root device is on a USB device ?
[10:48] <Linux_Fresher> pajamian:  excellent explaination :)
[10:48] <Tooommi> danand: okay. I thought it would be the firefox cache since it's in /home/.firefox/cache
[10:48] <Tooommi> .mozilla/firefox my bad
[10:49] <bdgraue> hello, i want automatic login and startx, how can i do this? i want to run openbox without an login manager
[10:49] <pajamian> bdgraue: you don't have to run startx in a default ubuntu install and it's trivial to set it up with an automatic login.
[10:50] <Linux_Fresher> macogw: omg .. big list of Migrate Documents and Settings .. its asking me all stuff from my windows installation .. do i need any of these ?
[10:50] <Tooommi> bazhang: a window does come and the box with 'delete cache' is checked but it does not delete it
[10:50] <bdgraue> pajamian: its not an default installation
[10:50] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  i guess not .. going ahead
[10:50] <bdgraue> pajamian: in an default ubuntu installation i have an gdm as login manager and i will do it without an login manager
[10:50] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: nope
[10:51] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: just skip that
[10:51] <swombat> right, even at the login screen the laptop disables the screen after a while. So the .-files have nothing to do with it.
[10:51] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  did it !! no hang backs to windowZ !! gonna learn linux as if it was my first OS of life !!
[10:51] <lancerocke> For some reason I cant open links from my IM client or XChat or even from my file browser (FE: open with Firefox). Any ideas?
[10:51] <lancerocke> Anyone
[10:51] <swombat> so, does anyone know of a script which would do something like jiggle the mouse every minute, to prevent Xubuntu's sleep mode from kicking in?
[10:51] <lancerocke> Please
[10:52] <pajamian> bdgraue: all you have to do in a default install is to go into system menu / administration / security tab and check the box for automatic login and select a user there.
[10:52] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: so now you're at the end?
[10:52] <cerneula> hello everyone, I'm a linux newbie using Ubuntu 7.10. Can anyone help with a problem with my monitor resolution? Thank you!
[10:52] <bdgraue> pajamian: but that uses the gdm
[10:52] <bdgraue> pajamian: and it starts the gdm, but gdm need to much RAM
[10:52] <pajamian> bdgraue: yes, but the user won't see it, it will go straight in and log the user in.
[10:52] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  was wondering if i can skip the password field in "who are you" screen .. i am the sole user of this pc
[10:52] <bazhang> cerneula: what card and what driver; how did you install said driver
[10:53] <dejavu_> hi
[10:53] <bdgraue> pajamian: its not about what the user will see ;)
[10:53] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  later on i dont want that OS keeps asking me for my password for every mouse click
[10:53] <bdgraue> its about my memory
[10:53] <hindi> i have a problem using ice0.4 in ubuntu, can somebody help ? Here my question about ices again : whatever i do when trying to run  ices -c /usr/local/etc/ices.conf.dist i get : Could not find a valid playlist file.
[10:53] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: no, you cant. you need that password to allow administrative actions. thats what keeps it secure
[10:53] <cerneula> ok, thank you for answering, hold on a second
[10:53] <pajamian> ahhh, ok, well, I'm not sure how else to do it.  You may be able to find a lighter weight login manager.
[10:53] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: it wont ask for every mouse click. it's not vista.
[10:53] <bazhang> haha
[10:53] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  :)
[10:53] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: it will only ask to install software and change system configurations
[10:53] <bdgraue> pajamian: i am searching for a way without login manager
[10:54] <cerneula> Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller
[10:54] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  and i guess password can be changed later on ofcourse ?
[10:54] <bdgraue> without kdm, gdm, xdm or similar
[10:54] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: yes, of course
[10:54] <pajamian> bdgraue: ok, I would imagine you can do it, but I don't know how.  I wish you luck.
[10:54] <cerneula> how do I look for the driver, though?
[10:54] <blankthemuffin> Guh, Any ideas as to why my desktop cube will not spin?
[10:54] <bazhang> cerneula: is that an older card? what seems to be the problem?
[10:54] <danand> Tooommi - Is the cache thats being kept from a recent session ?
[10:54] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: leave it to microsoft to steal ideas from unix and not even steal them *properly*
[10:55] <pajamian> Linux_Fresher: of course you can change your password whenever you want, and it doesn't prompt for it for every administrative action, if you've approved one recently it remembers the approval and lets you do more without having to type your password.
[10:55] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  yup .. around 3k usd which went to M$ should have gone to linux :( "Ready To Install"  .. checking out the "advanced..." tab
[10:55] <blankthemuffin> lol, needed to enable "cube rotate"
[10:55] <cerneula> well, when I log into the system, the system has a 1440x900 which doesn't work properly.
[10:56] <Tooommi> danand: What do you mean? If the cache is from a recent session?
[10:56] <bazhang> cerneula: what are the symptoms? black screen or what
[10:56] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: ignore the advanced tab
[10:56] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: just hit ok
[10:56] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  linux guys dont steal data right ? i mean if they are pure, i can click popularity contest  package usage survey
[10:57] <bazhang> back in a minute..
[10:57] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: sure you can. its just to tell which software to give priority to for bug-fixes
[10:57] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: "hmm we have time to fix X number of bugs...what are the X most popular programs?"
[10:57] <cerneula> Symptoms: bad colours, bad screen size
[10:57] <cerneula> I change that in Screen and Graphics, selecting 1280x1024, eveythings works great then, but when I log out an back in again the screen switches back to the previous resolution... every time
[10:58] <danand> Tooommi - check the date the files in your /home/user/.mozilla/firefox/..../cache folder. are they recent or old?
[10:58] <Linux_Fresher> device for bootloader installation (hd0)  not touching that one !!
[10:58] <Linux_Fresher> its installing !! :) :)
[10:59] <Tooommi> danand: well, they are rather new. 2 days old is the maximum
[10:59] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  plz pm me your email id, messenger contact everything !! you are such a great help that if i dont find u in this channel, i can still mail you or something !!
[11:00] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: i'm always here
[11:00] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: if i'm not here, i'm walking between classrooms
[11:00] <cerneula> ok
[11:01] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  Fine !! but in few days i will steal your email id for sure !! :P
[11:01] <icesword> how
[11:01] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  lol j/k
[11:01] <ukkopekka> NET||abuse: i've got quite similar problem. my usb works after boot but after few moments all usb suddenly stops working. i've read forums and stuff, but not found solution.
[11:01] <StefanW> oh noes, support stalkers!
[11:02] <pajamian> hehehe
[11:02] <danand> Tooommi - hmmm... strange one. Have you tried using the edit -> preferences --> privacy tab and checking the settings under private data box. you can also press clear now and see if that helps
[11:02] <li-plu1> I need to get my wifi network card to work
[11:02] <Chinaski> ciao a tutti
[11:02] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  so this installation when it finishes its done  or needs a few reboots and some more stuff still needs to be done ?
[11:02] <Chinaski> !LIST
[11:02] <Tm_T> Chinaski: please don't
[11:02] <ubotwo> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:02] <li-plu1> how can i get started?
[11:03] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: itll be done, just reboot into it.  there will be about 200 updates waiting for you though
[11:03] <pajamian> Linux_Fresher: you will end up with two reboots
[11:03] <Tooommi> danand: I've tried that at first, then to delete it when Firefox is closed. Both methods does not work. Well, looks like it can't be helped then
[11:03] <Linux_Fresher>  thats all cool  2 is much better than 20
[11:03] <Tooommi> danand: I can still delete them in the filemanager I guess
[11:04] <Linux_Fresher> plus even live cd launches fully operating os in lesser time than windows xp
[11:04] <pajamian> Linux_Fresher: you will need to reboot after the initial install and it will come up with your new ubuntu install, then there will be a bunch of updates and since one of them is a kernel update a reboot will be needed after the updates.
[11:04] <Aprilis> What can I download to open .rar files?
[11:04] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel cerneula
[11:04] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  kk .. guide me through that after first reboot
[11:05] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: dont need to
[11:05] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: itll just tell you there are updates.  you hit apply updates and ignore it for about an hour
[11:05] <danand> Tooommi - very odd :( - you could always try moving the firefox folder, so that firefox has to create a new one... see if that helps it out
[11:05] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  aww !! dont u shoo me away half way now !! :P
[11:05] <joricj> how do i clear my downloaded debs? sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb gives me "sudo: unable to execute /bin/rm: Argument list too long"
[11:06] <onefunk> hi
[11:06] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  its that simple ?  man, this linux thing seems too good to be true .. there HAS TO BE some pitfall ..
[11:06] <lancerocke> For some reason I cant open links from my IM client or XChat or even from my file browser (FE: open with Firefox). Any ideas?
[11:06] <lancerocke> please
[11:06] <Aprilis> Or rather, what's the Ubuntu equivalent for Winrar?
[11:06] <kadakas> file-roller
[11:06] <pajamian> Aprilis: unrar
[11:06] <Tooommi> danand: I think it's not that much of a problem. Then I delete it manually. Thanks for your replies
[11:06] <icesword> joricj, sudo apt-get clean
[11:06] <AutoMatriX> Hi folks, I'd like to have compiz running on my machine, it doesn't work with ubuntu but it dos with Mandriva (live)
[11:06] <danand> Tooommi - np
[11:06] <Aprilis> pajamian:  Shall I just sudo apt-get unrar?
[11:07] <Tooommi> another question: are the .deb packages in /var/cache/apt/archives still needed?
[11:07] <bazhang> cerneula: you still there? sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[11:07] <joricj> icesword: thx
[11:07] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: very new ATI graphics cards and Brother printers...and umm...really obscure things like a keychain that's a digital picture frame...
[11:07] <ndlovu> I'm looking for a good iax2 client for ubuntu - anyone here tried zoiper?
[11:07] <cerneula> ok, thank you, I'll try
[11:07] <pajamian> Aprilis: yep, though that's a terminal program, there is probably a nice gui one too, but I don't know because I just use the terminal one.
[11:07] <danand> Aprilis - sudo apt-get install unrar
[11:07] <onefunk> anyone know a macdrive equivalent
[11:07] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: oh and you cant pay for software for it on the shelf at the store.  you're forced to download it for free ;)
[11:07] <StefanW> AutoMatriX: hey, what graphics card do you have :)
[11:07] <Aprilis> pajamian:  Anything that'll open rar files.  Thanks!
[11:07] <NET||abuse> ukkopekka, hey, yeh, that's what happens.. usb works for a while,, then just dies, can't get anything back without rebooting.. have you found a way to get usb back at all without a reboot? What model of machine is this happening on for you? I'm on an nx6110
[11:07] <bazhang> onefunk: what is macdrive
[11:07] <Aprilis> danand:  Oh!  Thanks!
[11:07] <cerneula> I had it already
[11:08] <AutoMatriX> StefanW, an nvidia, but pls tell me how to give me more details ?
[11:08] <onefunk> bazhang: it is for accessing and using a mac formatted external harddrive
[11:08] <StefanW> AutoMatriX: the lspci command in a terminal should give you more information :)
[11:08] <icesword> bazhang, i think he said it is a backup disk of apple
[11:08] <AutoMatriX> StefanW, VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34M [GeForce FX Go5200 32M/64M] (rev a1)
[11:08] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  yeah someone here explained me yesterday about software repository thingy .. i was freaked out .. everything just at your fingertips .. i wonder why windoz didnt steal that trick xD
[11:08] <danand> cerneula - have you tried setting screen res etc with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[11:08] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: because you usually have to pay for windows software
[11:09] <joricj> icesword: it seems i still have a LOOOT of used space that i can't account for, what would be the best strategy to find out the biggest files on my harddisk ?
[11:09] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: and if microsoft did that for the free stuff all the for-pay companies would get angry at them
[11:09] <cerneula> yes, but I hhave only made things worse
[11:09] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: linux devs dont have to worry about business relations
[11:09] <macogw> joricj: applications -> accessories -> disk usage analyzer
[11:09] <icesword> joricj, no,you don't need ,usual install will take up 2g,openoffice and gnome is biggest
[11:10] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  yup .. btw are 6 months adequate to be a good user of linux ? so that i will convert my whole netcafe with 30 comps on ubuntu
[11:10] <StefanW> AutoMatriX: back
[11:10] <AutoMatriX> StefanW, I do believe there's only 32 M of ram on board
[11:10] <bazhang> cerneula: could you please install pastebinit? sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[11:10] <StefanW> AutoMatriX: I've checked, the restriced driver manager should offer you a driver which will work with compiz
[11:10] <cerneula> sure
[11:10] <joricj> macogw, icesword: thx
[11:10] <onefunk> i see my mac formatted external harddrive but can't access it
[11:11] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: yeah thats about how long i used it before i was confident enough to start using unstable software (which i dont really recommend you do)
[11:11] <cerneula> ok
[11:11] <macogw> joricj: np
[11:11] <mjec> Hi guys, my partition table has died and I have a device-hosted (extended partition) truecrypt volume. I know its location (sector) but I don't know how to mount it. Any ideas?
[11:11] <joricj> the disk user analyzer looks sweeeeet
[11:11] <cerneula> done
[11:11] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  so still ubuntu is kind of unstable ?
[11:11] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: but i have a book called the Linux Phrasebook to learn commands
[11:11] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: no it's stable
[11:11] <bazhang> cerneula: then in the terminal cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit and tell us the url it gives you here
[11:11] <pajamian> Linux_Fresher: I've seen people convert in less, it depends on how attached to windows you are and what you do.
[11:11] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: i use the unstable development branch
[11:11] <blankthemuffin> Could anyone recommend a wifi scanner / manager app?
[11:12] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  yup i will get that book too
[11:12] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: im using the alpha version right now to try to find the bugs so they can be fixed in time for next month's release
[11:12] <cerneula> http://paste.stgraber.org/1372
[11:12] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: the Official Ubuntu Book is also probably a good choice for starting with
[11:12] <bazhang> cerneula: thanks looking now
[11:12] <pajamian> Linux_Fresher: thing is, you can always find people to help with any problems in here.
[11:12] <cerneula> thank YOU!
[11:12] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: the Official Ubuntu Book is about how to use ubuntu.  the linux phrase book is command line stuff...which..honestly isnt all that needed with ubuntu. im just  geek.
[11:12] <Linux_Fresher> pajamian:   thats very very true
[11:13] <danand> onefunk - check you have the correct modules loaded in the kernel for accessing a mac formatted drive... not exactly sure what these are ... you'll have to google for the names of the module.
[11:13] <AutoMatriX> StefanW, that's already installed
[11:13] <macogw> pajamian: well im just talking about if you want to learn teh system inside and out
[11:13] <StefanW> AutoMatriX: and you've restarted your system after enabeling the restricted driver?
[11:13] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  well, i knew dos very well, so windows went well for me coz i knew what was happening behind the scene .. thats a good foundation .. i wish similar for linux too
[11:13] <danand> onefunk - i remember seeing an option in the kernel config for accessing mac formatted drives ... just can't remember what it is?
[11:14] <AutoMatriX> StefanW, off course, it's long time ago that I installed that driver
[11:14] <bazhang> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg cerneula try this and set it to the resolution you wish see if that helps
[11:14] <cerneula> ok
[11:14] <StefanW> AutoMatriX: then you should be able to enable compiz
[11:14] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: probably dont want to follow my method of learning.... poke poke poke poke *break* "oh crap!  whatd i do? uhh....." poke poke poke *break worse* "uh oh" poke poke *fix* "whew...that was close"
[11:14] <lancerocke> For some reason I cant open links from my IM client or XChat or even from my file browser (FE: open with Firefox). Any ideas?
[11:14] <lancerocke> please
[11:15] <AutoMatriX> StefanW, ok, how do I enable it ?
[11:15] <ukkopekka> NET||abuse: I have not found a way to get usb back without reboot. I must use historical ps2 keyboard and mouse :) I'm not at laptop. I've got m32n sli deluxe motherboard.
[11:15] <StefanW> AutoMatriX: system -> preferences -> looks -> visual effects tab
[11:15] <macogw> lancerocke: system -> preferences -> preferred applications.  make sure firefox is set as your browser
[11:15] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  lol .. dataloss breaking non bootable system viruses, worms, spywares etc are all toffies which a pro-windows user carries in his left and right pockets
[11:15] <pajamian> macogw: LoL, you learn a lot that way
[11:15] <danand> macogw - think thats the way most of us do it :)
[11:15] <lancerocke> macogw: thanks
[11:15] <NET||abuse> ukkopekka, damn, it's annoying.
[11:16] <NET||abuse> ukkopekka, i'm on laptop, no ps/2 port so if i want to use a mouse rather than touchpad then i have to have usb
[11:16] <macogw> danand: i think thats how just about anyone that knows a lot about computers does it.  the ones who know enough to put "microsoft word, excel, powerpoint" on their resumes and memorize a series of clicks...they dont learn that way
[11:16] <cerneula> it didn't return anything, I guess I have to log out and back in to check?
[11:16] <AutoMatriX> StefanW, I tried to, but no, it doesn't work
[11:16] <Linux_Fresher> macogw: Bug: shift + tab  in pidgin text field doesnt take the text cursor back !!
[11:16] <chillitom> how can i disable the bell on the console?
[11:16] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: not a bug
[11:16] <StefanW> AutoMatriX: does it give you an error :) ?
[11:17] <lancerocke> test link: www.google.com
[11:17] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  it should take it to left if shift is pressed
[11:17] <bazhang> cerneula: it did not do anything at all?
[11:17] <lancerocke> macogw: that did it
[11:17] <icesword> chillitom, what bell on the console
[11:17] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: thats what backspace is for :P
[11:17] <AutoMatriX> StefanW, yes, but it went that fast that I could not note it, the only thing I saw was : impossible to run
[11:17] <macogw> lancerocke: good
[11:17] <lancerocke> macogw: thanks again
[11:17] <cerneula> no
[11:18] <Linux_Fresher> 93% :)
[11:18] <macogw> chillitom: edit -> current provile -> uncheck terminal bell
[11:18] <danand> chillitom - System -> preferences -> sound. Select the "system beep" tab and uncheck the box marked "enable system beep"
[11:18] <cerneula> well, I don't know if we understood each other
[11:18] <chillitom> icesword: on the text consoles, it beeps the pc speaker whenever I autocomplete anything
[11:18] <StefanW> AutoMatriX: in a terminal, please try compiz --replace &
[11:18] <bazhang> then try this cerneula: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:18] <icesword> chillitom, did you run ubuntu in virtual machine
[11:18] <StefanW> AutoMatriX: and tell me the error output :)
[11:18] <chillitom> danand: can't log into X at the moment
[11:18] <cerneula> my configuration right now is fine, the problem is everytime I log out I have to configure it again, that is why a
[11:19] <macogw> danand: THATS where teh visual bell is!
[11:19] <ukkopekka> NET||abuse: i mean m2n32 sli deluxe. at forums people have this kind of problems but no solution
[11:19] <macogw> danand: ive been trying to remember where i set that for days!
[11:19] <cerneula> I ask you I have to log in again
[11:19] <Linux_Fresher> cerneula:  that happens in Live CD as nothing is saved .. are u in Live CD ?
[11:19] <danand> chillitom - ok... that bell is annoying :)
[11:19] <cerneula> no, I'm not
[11:19] <AutoMatriX> Detected PCI ID for VGA: 01:00.0 0300: 10de:0328 (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA])
[11:19] <AutoMatriX> Checking for texture_from_pixmap: present.
[11:19] <AutoMatriX> Checking for non power of two support: present.
[11:19] <AutoMatriX> Checking for Composite extension: present.
[11:19] <AutoMatriX> Comparing resolution (1024x768) to maximum 3D texture size (4096): Passed.
[11:19] <cerneula> in a live CD
[11:19] <AutoMatriX> Checking for nVidia: present.
[11:19] <FloodBot3> AutoMatriX: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:19] <bazhang> cerneula: okay, well try that command first, then we will have to edit your xorg.conf to include the higher modeline that you want as it is not present now
[11:19] <bluecake> how to edit pdf file? which app?
[11:19] <cerneula> ok
[11:20] <NET||abuse> ukkopekka, well, do you ever get the same issue with a windows xp install on that?
[11:20] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  DONE !! restarting !!  brb !!
[11:20] <icesword> !pdf
[11:20] <ubotwo> pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/evince, and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[11:20] <lancerocke> whats the command to re-install something again?
[11:20] <Linux_Fresher> :)  :D
[11:20] <NET||abuse> ukkopekka, or any other OS ?
[11:20] <danand> macogw - visual bell and system bell are under that tab.
[11:20] <ukkopekka> NET||abuse: no.
[11:20] <macogw> danand: yeah i couldnt find that. i thought i did it in comiz
[11:20] <macogw> danand: having the whole screen dim was getting annoying
[11:20] <quick_> hi
[11:21] <bazhang> pdfedit bluecake
[11:21] <danand> lancerocke - sudu apt-get --reinstall install packagename
[11:21] <icesword> lancerocke, usually ./excutable
[11:21] <NET||abuse> ukkopekka, one thing i have noted is the age of the usb2.0 driver in use in /var/log/messages, when i reinstall the ehci_hcd driver with modprobe, it says december 2004
[11:21] <macogw> lancerocke: sudo aptitude reinstall <package>
[11:21] <quick_> whoi is czech room for ubuntu users please ?
[11:21] <danand> lancerocke - *sudo
[11:21] <bluecake> bazhang, thx
[11:21] <li-plu1> I need help setting up my atheros wireless network car
[11:21] <lancerocke> thanks guys
[11:21] <Pici> !cz | quick_
[11:21] <ubotwo> quick_: České uživatele žádáme, aby mluvili v kanále #ubuntu anglicky. Česky je možno se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Děkujeme.
[11:21] <ukkopekka> NET||abuse: tried different keyboards and mice, no effect
[11:21] <AutoMatriX> StefanW, got ejected by floodbot, normal :D but I set you the output line per line in private
[11:22] <NET||abuse> ukkopekka, if you tail /var/log/messages and then in a seperate terminal run "sudo modprobe -r ehci_hcd; sudo modprobe -i ehci_hcd;",, watch for the messages and paste bin them would you?
[11:22] <AutoMatriX> StefanW, got it ?
[11:22] <StefanW> AutoMatriX: yeap ;)
[11:22] <StefanW> AutoMatriX: check the pm ;)
[11:22] <bullgard4> English help wanted. What does 'to leverage' mean in linux/Documentation/preempt-locking.txt: "Thankfully, the Linux preemptible kernel model leverages existing SMP locking mechanisms. Thus, the kernel requires explicit additional locking for very few additional situations."?
[11:23] <bazhang> bullgard4: uses
[11:23] <bullgard4> bazhang: Thank you very much.
[11:24] <Pici> bullgard4: Try ##linguistics or #ubuntu-offtopic next time around :)
[11:24] <onefunk> any musicians?
[11:24] <cerneula> ok, done
[11:24] <bazhang> cerneula: now reboot
[11:24] <ukkopekka> NET||abuse: same dec 2004
[11:24] <cerneula> c u in a moment
[11:24] <bazhang> okay
[11:24] <macogw> Pici: there's a ##linguistics?
[11:24] <bullgard4> Pici: Stop it. My question is Ubuntu related.
[11:25] <NET||abuse> ukkopekka, that's arse isn't it..
[11:25] <Linux_Fresher> that was pretty fast restart .. i am no more in Live CD , i am in ubuntu proper now !!
[11:25] <NET||abuse> ukkopekka, i dunno,, bit pissed off with hardware support just now.. my laptop doesn't even stay in suspend, it turns itself back on after 10 minutes.. how insane is that??
[11:25] <Pici> macogw: #linguistics, sorry :)
[11:25] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: see the orange rectangle with the white starburst in the middle of it? its in the top right part of the screen?
[11:25] <ukkopekka> NET||abuse: :)
[11:26] <pajamian> wb Linux_Fresher and congrats
[11:26] <shahrukh> Hello
[11:26] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  yup  .. update manager has started .. it also had another icon about restricted drivers, but that text i could not read .. the update manager text overwrote that window
[11:26] <Linux_Fresher> pajamian:  thanks :)
[11:26] <NET||abuse> ukkopekka, i was trying to just leave some articles open and a OOo write document open while i was going to sleep, so i stuck it into suspend,, turn out lights and lie down, then "whuuuuuuush" fans kick off ten minutes later and keep me awake,, stupid thing turns back on..
[11:27] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: when the updates are done, you can look at that. it probably has binary drivers to get 3D on your graphics card
[11:27] <shahrukh> I need help regarding updating from Ubuntu 6 > 7, can anyone please please help?
[11:27] <pajamian> Linux_Fresher: you'll want to install whatever restricted drivers it recommends, but you can't do it while running the updates.
[11:27] <bazhang> !yay | Linux_Fresher
[11:27] <ubotwo> Linux_Fresher: Glad you made it! :-)
[11:27] <macogw> shahrukh: 6.what to 7.what?
[11:27] <Linux_Fresher> bazhang:   :)
[11:27] <NET||abuse> ukkopekka, need to figure out this usb junk,, and maybe then look at the suspend issues
[11:27] <macogw> shahrukh: you can go from 6.10 to 7.04, but you cant skip releases
[11:27] <shahrukh> I have ubuntu 6.06 and ubuntu 7.10 CDs
[11:28] <shahrukh> But the 7.10 CD is corrupt or something
[11:28] <NET||abuse> or maybe thing will be better if i install a clean install from the next major release yeh?
[11:28] <macogw> shahrukh: you need to update one at a time. 6.06 to 6.10 yo 7.04 to 7.10
[11:28] <bazhang> shahrukh: how much ram what cpu
[11:28] <Linux_Fresher> everyone in this channel including the bot are so cool  lol .. THANK YOU GUYS !! ----<(@
[11:28] <pajamian> Linux_Fresher: you'll probably want to install other stuff too depending on what you want to do.  I usually install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package and also add the medibuntu repository and install w32codecs and libdvdcss from there.
[11:28] <shahrukh> RAM = 1GB
[11:28] <cerneula> hello again
[11:28] <bazhang> shahrukh: then you can go for the 7.10 CD
[11:28] <Linux_Fresher> pajamian:  yup !! now i want everything !!  first to dl this 250 megs of basic updates i guess
[11:28] <cerneula> bazhang?
[11:28] <ukkopekka> NET||abuse: http://pastebin.com/m13d591e
[11:29] <bazhang> cerneula: how did it go?
[11:29] <cerneula> ok, now this is very interesting
[11:29] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: its been out for 5 months...there've been a lot of security patches in that time.  thats why we dont get viruses ;) things get patched *fast* and *often*
[11:29] <shahrukh> Well, I can't install directly from the CD, it gives an I/O buffer error
[11:29] <cerneula> it did not work, BUT... this time I changed something
[11:29] <shahrukh> Can I update directly from there?
[11:29] <bazhang> cerneula: okay go ahead
[11:29] <macogw> shahrukh: do you have 6.06 installed?
[11:29] <shahrukh> Yeah
[11:29] <NET||abuse> ukkopekka, yeh, dunno what to make of it..
[11:29] <Oliver8> I downloaded multiverse repo from net, and how to burn , I dont know, I mean what dirctory structure should be, shold pool be on root or what?
[11:29] <shahrukh> I am currently using that
[11:29] <bazhang> shahrukh: the 7.10 cd? sure
[11:30] <Linux_Fresher> pajamian:  later on after all basic stuff is done, i am gonna come back here to haunt u with wine !! all games i play are listed as WORKING in appdb of wine, so !!!!!
[11:30] <shahrukh> yeah
[11:30] <shahrukh> Its right infront of
[11:30] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  yup , i wonder if Big Billy has a good retirement plan  !! xD
[11:30] <shahrukh> So, I just update my packages?
[11:30] <pajamian> Linux_Fresher: ahhh, np, I know a thing or two about wine, I will give you some tips to make managing the games, etc a lot easier.
[11:30] <joricj> my sound works! :D next thing i would like to fix is wifi: right now i have to open ndisgtk, remove driver, add driver. wifi then works (for the current boot) but in stdout/stderr it prints: module configuration already contains alias directive
[11:30] <macogw> shahrukh: the update manager should have an option for you to upgrade to 6.10 (Edgy)
[11:31] <Linux_Fresher> pajamian: :) little offtopic but try warhammer .. it PWNZ .. and wait for starcraft 2 !!
[11:31] <macogw> shahrukh: once that update happens you can update from there to 7.04 (feisty) and from there to gutsy (7.10)
[11:31] <cerneula> in there is Screen Resolution dialog box, there is a tick box at the bottom, which reads Options -- Use only as default for this machine or something like that in English, I'm using a Spanish interface
[11:31] <macogw> shahrukh: alternatively, wait a month and the next LTS release will happen
[11:31] <macogw> shahrukh: upgrading from 6.06 to 8.04 (from LTS to LTS) will be a supported upgrade
[11:31] <pajamian> Linux_Fresher: LoL, I have a few apps I use with wine, but I try not to get into a new game very often or I won't end up ever getting any work done! LoL
[11:32] <shahrukh> That is nice
[11:32] <joricj> anyone knows how i can fix that situation ? my last question regards beagled/trackerd which somehow i installed them maybe or they got installed when i upgraded to 7.10
[11:32] <Linux_Fresher> pajamian:  :P
[11:32] <cerneula> what it did this time, I rebooted twice was ticking that, and the computer started with the wrong configuration, but after logging in it automatically changed after a couple of seconds to the right configuration!
[11:32] <shahrukh> I'll just update the required software for now then
[11:32] <macogw> joricj: whats wrong with them?
[11:32] <shahrukh> Thanks guys
[11:32] <bazhang> cerneula: okay good news
[11:32] <macogw> joricj: other than them being silly?
[11:32] <Creationist> Is it possible to install KDE 4.1 through apt?
[11:32] <cerneula> but why does it do that??
[11:32] <bazhang> Creationist: sure
[11:32] <danand> Oliver8 - you may want to take a look at the package apt-mirror for help with that
[11:32] <joricj> macogw: i'd like them gone. i don't use them and when i start up they take up 20% of my cpu for about a full minute
[11:32] <shahrukh> Later then. Rock on!
[11:32] <shahrukh> Thanks again.
[11:33] <cerneula> how can you oblige anyway the system to get the right configuration first time always
[11:33] <bazhang> Creationist: best to go to #kubuntu-kde4 though ;]
[11:33] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  pajamian bazhang okies i am off till the updates finish .. we still call 256 kbps adsl as NEW MASSIVE BANDWIDTH with Very low rate of disconnection here !! :)
[11:33] <cerneula> and not do what it wants to do
[11:33] <joricj> (but i don't know which packages they belong to)
[11:33] <macogw> joricj: beagle was part of 7.04.  tracker is meant to replace it.  you can definitely uninstall beagle
[11:33] <Gatton> is KDE 4.1 out already? lol
[11:33] <Frogzoo> joricj: yep, uninstall them
[11:33] <Creationist> bazhang: Ah... thanks.  DIdn't know that channel existed :)
[11:33] <Linux_Fresher> thanks a loads for all your time info and support .. especially macogw .. u r a gem to this channel and community
[11:33] <Linux_Fresher> afk
[11:34] <pajamian> LoL, 256k as "new massive bandwidth"?
[11:34] <macogw> joricj: tracker is the name of tracker's
[11:34] <bazhang> cerneula: not sure about your question; do you have the correct resolution that you want now? generally on my box there is a slight delay and I get that as well, so not sure what the issue is
[11:34] <judgen> hmm i get no sound in Unreal Tournament 2004. Any ideas?
[11:34] <macogw> joricj: if you type "sudo aptitude remove " and then start typing "track" and hit tab twice itll list all packages starting with "track" ditto on starting to type "beagle" so you can see what all's there that's related
[11:35] <onefunk> i can see my mac formatted drive but can't access it. anyone?
[11:35] <cerneula> yes I have the right configuration, but by default it has somethign else, and that I cannot change, weird
[11:35] <joricj> macogw: wow !
[11:35] <macogw> joricj: i <3 bash's tab-autocomplete
[11:35] <cerneula> anyway many thanks indeed for your help and your time, I really appreciate it
[11:36]  * macogw waits for a zsh user to pop up
[11:36] <Linux_Fresher> pajamian:   yup .. we are 'developing' !! but we are working on it :) .. okies seriously afk now !! :D
[11:36] <joricj> okay, but it says: The following packages will be REMOVED: beagle gnome-user-guide libbeagle0 nautilus nautilus-cd-burner ubuntu-desktop ubuntu-docs yelp
[11:36] <bazhang> cerneula: well if you have the right config and it stays that way just thank the lucky stars ;] I'm not sure how to explain how that happens though
[11:36] <joricj> (when i tried to delete beagle)
[11:36] <macogw> joricj: wow O_o
[11:36] <macogw> joricj: try apt-get remove, maybe?
[11:36] <cerneula> don't worry I'll keep on investigating, THANK YOU!!
[11:36] <joricj> thats what i did
[11:36] <bazhang> cerneula no worries ;]
[11:36] <macogw> joricj: hmm ok then...lets just disable them then
[11:36] <cerneula> see you around, you guys are GREAT
[11:36] <icesword> good night!
[11:37] <VSpike> can anyone tell me how I can get something like a simple database manager or sql console to talk to a MS SQL server via ODBC?
[11:37] <macogw> joricj: system -> preferences -> sessions...make sure they're not listed in startup
[11:37] <joricj> o_O OMG
[11:37] <joricj> <3
[11:37] <macogw> joricj: never found your startup folder before?
[11:38] <VSpike> There seem to be two odbc layers available in the repos - iodbc and unixodbc.  I have both installed.  I'm not sure what front-end to use, or how to link up drivers etc.  If there is a specific forum for this, please redirect me :)
[11:38] <joricj> i just never thought it would be so integrated i figured i would have to dig in .bash_login files etc :D
[11:38] <judgen> i get no sound in Unreal Tournament 2004. Any ideas?
[11:40] <eifzon> anyone here tried new *ubuntgrurhyhrhrrrhhrhhjhrhn
[11:40] <eifzon> äöå
[11:40] <eifzon> påå
[11:40] <eifzon> ååå
[11:40] <LollinopiL> guys how can i download some photoes with my kodak camera ?
[11:40] <eifzon> anyone here tried new ubuntu 8.4?
[11:40] <vistakiller> hi i just upgrade to hardy heron in kubuntu and i have strange problem with ugly windows in some programmes
[11:40] <vistakiller> http://img512.imageshack.us/my.php?image=firestartercq8.png
[11:40] <eifzon> vistakiller: does it work good
[11:40] <bazhang> eifzon: #ubuntu+1 please
[11:40] <LollinopiL> hello baaaz !
[11:41] <bazhang> vistakiller: same channel #ubuntu+1 please
[11:41] <LollinopiL> hey is there a way to see the photoes of my camera in ubuntu's OS
[11:41] <LollinopiL> ?
[11:41] <vistakiller> ok sorry
[11:41] <kadakas> please recommend me a simple 3d drawing program for Ubuntu - i just wanna sketch cars and stuff without learning how to use a CAD in 6 months
[11:42] <bazhang> LollinopiL: depends on the camera; try to connect it and see if it works first
[11:42] <LollinopiL> ok i do it
[11:42] <pajamian> VSpike: usually if you want to just manage an MS SQL server I would recommend connecting to the server with rdesktop.  If you want to integrate a program with it via ODBC then it depends on the programming language.
[11:42] <VSpike> LollinopiL: gphoto is normally useful for anything that isn't just a mass-storage camera
[11:42] <bazhang> back in a minute..
[11:43] <VSpike> pajamian: I don't have rdp access to it
[11:43] <ukkopekka> NET||abuse: my friend doubts that my install is corrupted. I checked the cd, but no mistakes. Actually I could not install ubuntu from my dvd-drive (maybe broken) so I had to use an ancient cd-drive. Also the noapic parameter must be used to boot ubuntu.
[11:43] <VSpike> pajamian: it's a hosting co's server, so i can only access by ms sql client or equivalent
[11:43] <pajamian> VSpike: then I'm not sure how you'd do it.  I imagine you can with ODBC but I don't know exactly how.
[11:44] <VSpike> pajamian: I'd ideally just like a console that i can type sql into :)
[11:44] <muty-bg> how can I see the uuid of a given partition?
[11:44] <VSpike> pajamian: similar to the one you get with postgres etc
[11:44] <NET||abuse> ukkopekka, what's the noapic param do?
[11:44] <pajamian> VSpike: yep, I know what you mean, I regularily work with postgresql and mysql.
[11:44] <macogw> muty-bg: ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[11:44] <GarethAdams> maybe I don't get these permission things. I can't have a file that's generally non-read/writable, and then have a group of people with read addess and a group of people with read/write access?
[11:44] <muty-bg> macogw: thank you :)
[11:45] <VSpike> pajamian: I use sql server management studio express locally to work with it.  I wonder if that would work on wine?
[11:45] <pajamian> VSpike: possibly, have you checked the appdb?
[11:46] <ukkopekka> NET||abuse: not sure, but without it kernel panic appears. This is common problem too, but everywhere is adviced to use noapic and nolapic parameters
[11:46] <VSpike> pajamian: not yet, only just thought of that.  But not sure right away what I would gain.  ODBC should be do-able and opens a wider range of uses
[11:47] <NET||abuse> ukkopekka, meh?? have to read up on them i suppose.. see what the heck they are about..
[11:47] <NET||abuse> not to worry so.
[11:47] <pajamian> VSpike: certainly, I just don't know any solutions for that, but I've never looked.
[11:48] <fstxx> GarethAdams: not using standard unix permissions. You need to use ACLs. I googled for linux acl, and got some pages that might help, eg: http://www.vanemery.com/Linux/ACL/linux-acl.html
[11:48] <nery> Hola me puede echar un cable alguien por favor?? tengo problemas con el wifi de acer aspire 5315 en ubuntu 7.10...
[11:48] <VSpike> pajamian: there is tdsodbc in the repos.  " ODBC driver for connecting to MS SQL and Sybase SQL server"
[11:49] <VSpike> pajamian: just never used odbc before so shall have to grapple with dsn's etc
[11:49] <GarethAdams> fstxx: thanks, gives me more to learn :)
[11:49] <pajamian> VSpike: yes, but I don't know if that provides a terminal shell you can work with or if it's strictly an application driver.
[11:51] <li-plus> how do i make my computer start emerald auto
[11:52] <macogw> li-plus: in compizconfig-settings-manager (you have that installed, right? if not, go do so) go to effects -> window decoration and put "emerald --replace" in the command box
[11:53] <norty> Question: How do I setup my computer running Ubuntu 7.10 so that I can ssh in from a remote compter (not on the same network, usually running windows xp) ? - I have openssh-server installed..
[11:53] <pajamian> VSpike: I think you want unixODBC
[11:54] <FFighter> hello
[11:54] <pajamian> VSpike: it comes with an isql utility, which, if my brief scanning of a few web pages is correct is similar to psql or mysql
[11:54] <FFighter> if I have a list [{'key',value},{'key',value}] and I want to iterate only over the values (iterate in a way that the keys don't matter) how to do it?
[11:55] <Pici> FFighter: You may want to try asking in a programming channel, ##programming or one specificaly for whatever language you're using :)
[11:55] <FFighter> Pici: lol, I thought it was the python channel, sorry - ubuntu
[11:55] <norty> Question: How do I setup my computer running Ubuntu 7.10 so that I can ssh in from a remote compter (not on the same network, usually running windows xp) ? - I have openssh-server installed..
[11:56] <Tyczek> is possible to add password for "windows" in grub?
[11:56] <pajamian> FFighter: hehehe, I could answer for perl, but it would be in PM.
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> grub has a lot of features. I think theres some 'enter password to boot' feature. Check the grub homepage.
[11:57] <yogi_> norty, use putty for windowsXP
[11:57] <Tyczek> ok
[11:57] <norty> yogi_, what do i put in for the host then?
[11:58] <yogi_> norty, the ip or the name<fully qualified domain name>
[11:58] <ukkopekka> NET||abuse: yesterday my usb stopped working also and I looked at syslog what happened (http://pastebin.com/m3a7bc087). at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_APIC_Architecture is something about IRQ7. I think here is the problem or part of it.
[11:58] <fujin> I'm looking for a CLI email client that is better than Mutt, mostly for Maildir/ support.
[11:58] <fujin> anyone suggest one?
[11:59] <NET||abuse> ukkopekka, cool,, have some reading there..
[12:00] <bullgard4> Synaptic writes: "Tracker is an advanced framework for first class objects with associated metadata and tags." What are 'first class objects'?
[12:00] <ukkopekka> NET||abuse: also tried booting with irqpoll parameter but computer behaviour turned unstable
[12:00] <NET||abuse> ukkopekka, sounds rough... well,i've not gone to such lengths myself as yet.. and it doesn't sound like your having much success either :( bummer
[12:01] <NET||abuse> ukkopekka, oh well,, i need some lunch,, back later..
[12:04] <AutoMatriX> StefanW, everything is set back to 'normal' thanks for the help
[12:04] <StefanW> AutoMatriX: no problem :)
[12:05] <qasim> I am using ubuntu gutsy and there is no option available for lock screen on the shut down menu
[12:05] <qasim> any idea how to make it enable or get it
[12:06] <ArthurArchnix> What's the command to see a list of available groups?
[12:07] <NiLoni> is there any benchmark app that could test system (cpu & memory & disk) and give result that could be used to compare with other machines? basically similar idea to 3dmark but no need to benchmark 3d features
[12:07] <macogw> bullgard4: i think it means files
[12:07] <pajamian> ArthurArchnix: you mean you want to see all the user groups on your system?
[12:07] <goniochromism> hello
[12:07] <ArthurArchnix> pajamian: Yeah... all possible groups
[12:08] <pajamian> ArthurArchnix: cat /etc/group
[12:08] <goniochromism> does anyone know a single command to delete a certain partition?
[12:08] <ArthurArchnix> pajamian: Perfect. Thanks
[12:08] <goniochromism> a command I could put in a script
[12:08] <bullgard4> macogw:  "In C, variables are first class objects.  Functions are not."
[12:09] <pajamian> goniochromism: you mean actually delete?  not just unmount it?
[12:09] <Dr_Willis> delete as in 'fdisk deletion' or as in 'zero out the data;' :)
[12:09] <goniochromism> yea, bascially I want a script that erases the entire disk
[12:09] <goniochromism> for that I would only need to erase the partition table and the MBR i think
[12:10] <pajamian> goniochromism: you can write out the commands for fdisk to do it in a file, then pass that file as input to fidsk.
[12:10] <goniochromism> don't know how to do it under linux though..
[12:10] <goniochromism> ah
[12:10] <goniochromism> interesting, I'll try that
[12:10] <pajamian> goniochromism: you can also use dd to write to the first block of the disk directly
[12:11] <goniochromism> ah even nicer - that would cover both, Parttable and MBR right?
[12:11] <goniochromism> what would that command be?
[12:11] <PodMan99a> hey all what kernel do i need for 4GB+
[12:11] <PodMan99a> ?
[12:11] <ukkopekka> NET||abuse: I found something about spurious interrupts and problems they may cause, http://www7.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/~ksjh/research/cluster/timesync/sprint.html . I keep investigating these spurious interrupts and IRQ7.
[12:12] <pajamian> goniochromism: yes, but I don't know the exact command, you would use if=/dev/zero and need to specify the length to write in some way (and I'm not sure exactly how much data you should write)
[12:12] <goniochromism> ok i'll fish around, thx
[12:12] <damaltor> hello everybody... should i use the LVM when installing ubuntu or shouldnt i? what is the difference?
[12:12] <StefanW> PodMan99a: the 32 bit kernel given by ubuntu doesn't support it
[12:12] <StefanW> PodMan99a: I think you may have to recompile the kernal manually to enable 4Gb +
[12:12] <pajamian> goniochromism: gimmie a sec, I'll fidn it
[12:13] <pajamian> goniochromism: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/using-dd-to-zero-the-mbr-query.-606489/
[12:13] <Dr_Willis> gotta wonder why this needs tobe scriptable. :) how oftenya going to do it.
[12:14] <nguyenphan> how to usb conpiz-fusion 3D in ubuntu 7.10
[12:14] <nguyenphan> ?
[12:14] <aurax> how can i change a network interface name (eth10 to eth0) ?
[12:14] <Dr_Willis> !compiz | nguyenphan
[12:14] <ubotwo> nguyenphan: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[12:14] <StefanW> PodMan99a: this topic may help :) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=375853
[12:15] <pajamian> damaltor: if you don't have a specific reason to use LVM then you probably don't need it.
[12:15] <PodMan99a> StefanW, thanks... suppose im gonna have to kernel build now... lol....
[12:15] <StefanW> PodMan99a: that or use the 64 bit kernell if you have a 64 bit system
[12:16] <aurax> any idea?
[12:16] <StefanW> PodMan99a: that one should be able to adress 4Gb +
[12:16] <pajamian> It would be nice if they had a pre-built kernel that could access 4gb on 32 bit.
[12:17] <PodMan99a> StefanW, its amd 64 processor with 32bit installed ... other than the 4GB issue is it worth running 64bit for a webserver?
[12:18] <void^> pajamian: -server kernel?
[12:18] <ArthurArchnix> aurax: You might be able to give it an alias in /etc/network/interfaces   I'm not sure though. Try "man interfaces"
[12:19] <StefanW> PodMan99a: some packages are not avialable on 64 bit, but you should be ok
[12:19] <bazhang> nguyenphan: what video card and what driver and how did you install please
[12:19] <StefanW> PodMan99a: also, I believe the server kernel does support 4 Gb + ?
[12:19] <guest8> HI, I want to ask if it is possible to have different desktop backgrounds and icons on the different workspaces
[12:19] <bazhang> guest8: yes but will take a bit of tinkering
[12:19] <PodMan99a> worth a go
[12:20] <guest8> bazhang: Is it easy
[12:20] <bazhang> guest8: define easy
[12:20] <guest8> bazhang: Clickable in a menu or something like that.
[12:20] <bazhang> guest8: then no
[12:20] <StefanW> PodMan99a: the linux-server kernel does support 4 Gb +
[12:20] <aurax> ArthurArchnix: nope....
[12:21] <StefanW> PodMan99a: and since you're on a server, should be just what you need :)
[12:21] <guest8> bazhung: Is it only a config file where I have to set a specific value to "yes"? Then that would be easy too.
[12:21] <bazhang> guest8: for the compiz cube? is that what you had in mind?
[12:21] <guest8> exactly: I have the cube, and then I want different icons on each side
[12:22] <bazhang> guest8 hang on a second
[12:22] <ddwagnz> hi, quick question, in ubuntu gusty, how do i change the splash screen!?!
[12:22] <StefanW> guest8: that is possible if you use compiz :)
[12:22] <StefanW> guest8: reference - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=17359
[12:22] <guest8> StefanW: Yes, I do (at least I have the desktop cube)
[12:23] <Linux_Fresher> !cube
[12:23] <ubotwo> Compiz-Fusion (and the older Compiz and Beryl) are window managers that employ the "composite" extension of X to draw windows using graphics cards' 3D hardware. They can additionally provide "desktop special effects" (such as the "cube") by means of plug-ins. Join #compiz-fusion for help and support with advanced features. See also « /msg ubotu compiz » and « /msg ubotu effects »
[12:24] <guest8> StefanW: Thanks, is there also the possibility of having different icons on each workspace?
[12:24] <bullgard4> Doing tracker-search-tool in a Gnome terminal opens a window 'Tracker Search' but in the left-hand pane there are no categories listed. Some days ago they were yet. There is no error message in the Gnome terminal. How to repair that?
[12:24] <ddwagnz> hi, quick question, in ubuntu gusty, how do i change the splash screen....
[12:24] <Pici> !usplash | ddwagnz
[12:24] <ubotwo> ddwagnz: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[12:24] <StefanW> guest8: I don't think that is possible YET
[12:25] <_fabio|> hi, little question: I have my music organized in Music/Artis/Album, inside of every Album folder is a jpg file. i'd like to rename all these .jpgs to cover.jpg. any help how to achive that with a script?
[12:25] <aurax> so anyone knows howo to change network interface alias?
[12:25] <guest8> StefanW: Ok, thanks. Maybe it'll be available in some future version. But till then I can have different backgrounds. Thanks!
[12:26] <pajamian> _fabio|: for x in Music/*/*/*.jpg; do mv $x cover.jpg; done
[12:26] <apo> _fabio|: find /folder/to/your/music/ | egrep "\.jpg$" | xargs rename "s/.+/cover.jpg/" should work. But try it first on a test folder :)
[12:27] <legend2440> ddwagnz: system>administration>startup manager
[12:27] <StefanW> guest8: no problem :)
[12:27] <_fabio|> thx will try it right now
[12:27] <guest8> Bye
[12:27] <pajamian> _fabio|: wait
[12:27] <Linux_Fresher> pajamian:  back .. still 1 hr to go till updates finish .. btw how do i get that restricted driver warning icon back  without rebooting ? i am interested in reading that tool tip that it popped up
[12:27] <pajamian> _fabio|: sorry, that won't work, don't do that
[12:27] <apo> pajamian: Aw, damn. Why?
[12:28] <pajamian> Linux_Fresher: the icon should still be there.
[12:28] <pajamian> apo: because I just realized he'll end up with one cover.jpg file in the current directory, not what he wants.
[12:28] <apo> pajamian: Oh, damn. Spaces? -_-"
[12:28] <apo> pajamian: Uh, I don't think so.
[12:28] <pajamian> apo: you think it'll work?
[12:29] <Linux_Fresher> pajamian:  umm .. i clicked it before i clicked updates .. so it asked me for a password .. as I was not sure if i am to install restricted stuff  [ i thought it was a warning like windows xp gives about un-signed drivers ] .. so i clicked cancel !! and the icon is gone :(
[12:29] <pajamian> apo: I mean the command I told him, not yours
[12:29] <guest8> StefanW: I just lost all my Desktop icons.
[12:29] <apo> pajamian: Ah, you're right. Mine's broken.
[12:29] <pajamian> apo: I was talking about mine, heh
[12:29] <StefanW> guest8: O_o
[12:29] <apo> pajamian: Where's it? I'm blind...
[12:30] <apo>  _fabio|: for x in Music/*/*/*.jpg; do mv $x cover.jpg; done
[12:30] <apo> Ah...
[12:30] <apo> I don't think so.
[12:30] <pajamian> apo: yep
[12:30] <apo> Wait a minute.
[12:30] <UltraMagnus> excuse me, i have a problem with my wireless, occasionally it will disconnect and refuse to reconnect until i restart.  can anyone tell me what is wrong and how to fix it please?
[12:30] <pajamian> can compensate for spaces easily, just change $x to "$x"
[12:30] <apo> pajamian: find /folder/to/your/music/ | egrep "\.jpg$" | xargs rename "s/\/.+/\/cover.jpg/"
[12:30] <guest8> STefanW: everything works perfectly, except: my icons are gone!
[12:30] <apo> How about that?
[12:31] <apo> No, wait.
[12:31] <pajamian> Linux_Fresher: just goto System / Administration / Restricted Drivers manager, then.
[12:31] <StefanW> guest8: I don't know about that buddy, they shouldn't disappear O_o
[12:31] <apo> pajamian: find /folder/to/your/music/ | egrep "\.jpg$" | xargs rename "s/\/[^\/]+\.jpg$/cover.jpg/"!
[12:31] <Linux_Fresher> guest8:  are u sure u have not accidentally gone to other desktop ?  linux i think has more than one desktops
[12:31] <majikins> hi is there a way to take a user off the sudo list? or not allow a user root rights by just typing sudo and command?
[12:31] <VSpike> pajamian: wo0t! It works!
[12:31] <VSpike> pajamian: thanks for your help :)
[12:31] <guest8> Linux_Fresher: No, I just checked them all.
[12:32] <pajamian> VSpike: I forget, what did I tell you?
[12:32] <ddwagnz> legend2440, cant see a menu called startup manager o.O
[12:32] <VSpike> pajamian: lol.  np.  odbc/mssql/isql etc.
[12:32] <pajamian> VSpike: ahhhh, cool
[12:32] <ukkopekka> NET||abuse: now I disabled my serial port at bios. I found out that this may cause the problem in samo cases because multiple devices try to use irq7 at same time. now I use usb keyboard and mouse. I just have to wait and see if usb freezes, hopefully not :)
 pajamian: find /folder/to/your/music/ | egrep "\.jpg$" | xargs rename "s/\/[^\/]+\.jpg$/cover.jpg/" <-- gives me nameofthecoverbeofrecover.jpg in Music/
[12:32] <StefanW> guest8: let me try the same thing here.. one moment
[12:33] <pajamian> _fabio|: give me a min to come up with one ...
[12:33] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: to get the restricted driver manager back, look in the administration menu
[12:33] <_fabio|> take all the time you need :)
[12:33] <macogw> guest8: what do you mean by your icons are gone?
[12:33] <macogw> guest8: which icons?
[12:33] <apo> _fabio|: add \/ before cover.jpg :D
[12:33] <legend2440> ddwagnz: then you can install it from synaptic or sudo apt-get install startupmanager
[12:33] <guest8> macogw: The icons that normally are on my desktop
[12:34] <ddwagnz> kk
[12:34] <macogw> guest8: did you put shortcuts on your desktop?
[12:34] <Linux_Fresher> macogw: cool .. it talks about nvidia driver .. i got what they are saying .. i will finish updates first then go for proprietary stuff
[12:34] <macogw> guest8: or "launchers" as we call them...i still call them the windows name
 _fabio|: add \/ before cover.jpg :D <-- that did the trick! thank you very much!
[12:34] <unenough> how do I LIST the build-deps of a package?
[12:34] <guest8> macogw: NO, files and folders (pdfs, ...)
[12:35] <apo> _fabio|: You're welcome
[12:35] <StefanW> guest: I did the same and guess what... my icons left me too O_o
[12:35] <Pici> unenough: I believe its in: apt-cache showsrc packagename
[12:35] <macogw> guest8: oh it should still be in your Desktop directory right? like still in the folder if you go places -> directory?
[12:35] <StefanW> guest8: let me try and fix that
[12:35] <macogw> guest8: there's an option to hide the stuff on the desktop...lemme find it
[12:36] <majikins> is there a way to disallow a user to do sudo <command>? ie i don't want user to be able to install software
[12:36] <UltraMagnus> excuse me, i have a problem with my wireless, occasionally it will disconnect and refuse to reconnect until i restart.  can anyone tell me what is wrong and how to fix it please?
[12:36] <guest8> macogw: yes, they're not drawn on the desktop. Oh, and by the way, right click on the desktop doesn'T work any more
[12:36] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  btw, my line is 256 kbps .. so max download speed should be 25.6 kBps .. i wonder why its showing that i am downloading updates at 33.2 kBps
[12:37] <VSpike> pajamian: I can now open it up in OOo or anything I like.  Very neat!
[12:37] <apo> Linux_Fresher: Uh... 10 bit != 1 byte
[12:37] <ukkopekka> NET||abuse: sorry, parallel port was the port I disabled. anyway...I saw at bios what interrupt parallel and serial port was using. parallel used irq7 so I disabled it and serial used irq5 so left it untouched.
[12:37] <pajamian> VSpike: very cool
[12:37] <apo> Linux_Fresher: 8 bit = 1 byte, you're able to download 32kB/s
[12:38] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: because 256kb != 25.6 kB
[12:38] <pajamian> Linux_Fresher: 256/8=32
[12:38] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: you divided by 10.  1 byte is 8 bits.  try dividing by 8
[12:38] <StefanW> guest8: hm, trying to find a sollution
[12:38] <apo> macogw, pajamian: I was faster! Hah! :P
[12:38] <macogw> apo: yes, you win
[12:38] <apo> \o/
[12:38] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:   oh .. i thought tcp/ip pkt was 8 bit and start and stop bit so 10 bit !! wasnt knowing that data is only 6 bits lol i always thought it was 8 bit data  ;)
[12:38] <macogw> guest8: is nautilus not running?
[12:38]  * apo does the vector-y dance
[12:39] <pajamian> apo: cool, btw, to avoid problems with spaces in that use find ... -print0 and xargs -o
[12:39] <pajamian> errr xargs -0
[12:39] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: its nothing to do with packet size
[12:39] <apo> pajamian: Yeah, true.
[12:39] <apo> pajamian: I forgot because I have no spaces in my filenames
[12:39]  * v3ctor gives apo and odd look
[12:39] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: its just a very simple matter of there being 8 bits in 1 byte
[12:39] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  true , just easier to calculate if i divide by 10  [ and mess up the final result ]
[12:39] <apo> v3ctor: I said v3ctor, not vthreector
[12:39] <aantn> are the kde 4 packages in gutsy still updated?
[12:39] <ibm-m6> hello, i need some help please , I would like to know when i use >> System > Preferences > Remote Desktop (vnc). what is the defualt port of the vnc ?
[12:39] <pajamian> apo: yeah, I tend to use -print0 and -0 as a matter of course.
[12:40] <articpenguin380> is it possible to use konqueror instead of nautilus?
[12:40] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: http://www.google.com/search?q=256kb+in+kB&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
[12:40] <bazhang> articpenguin380: sure but will install a lot of kde stuff
[12:40] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  :) tx
[12:40] <guest8> macogw: If I have a "File Browser" window open, "ps -A | grep nautilus" tells me nautilus is running, if I don't have a "File Browser" window open, it isn't running.
[12:40] <macogw> guest8: ok thats the problem then
[12:41] <pajamian> Linux_Fresher: nope, 8 bits to a byte, there is some tcp/ip packet overhead, but we don't count that because it's difficult to know exactly how much it affects the transfer speed.
[12:41] <articpenguin380> prob wont be an issue with my 2GBS of ram =)
[12:41] <apo> pajamian: I suppose I could use an alias.
[12:41] <Laughed> any one know how to get the splash screen to work on boot up... Im blank pun intended
[12:41] <macogw> guest8: nautilus has to be running for you to have a background image, see the icons, and use right click on the desktop
[12:41] <apo> fi0 and xa0 or something.
[12:41] <Laughed> Hey Paja/
[12:41] <Linux_Fresher> pajamian:  true
[12:41] <guest8> macogw: The icons don'T reappear if I start a "File Browser" window
[12:41] <macogw> guest8: i missed what happened earlier, but did changing backgrounds involve something that ended in "setbg"
[12:41] <legend2440> articpenguin380:  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/nonautilusplease
[12:41] <articpenguin380> i already use amarok instead of ryhtembox
[12:41] <macogw> guest8: thats because when you start it from a menu it's calling the window-only mode that doesnt start the background too
[12:42] <guest8> macogw: no, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=17359
[12:42] <macogw> guest8: try running "nautilus" with no arguments from a terminal
[12:42] <StefanW> guys
[12:42] <pajamian> hello Laughed
[12:42] <Laughed> IF Zune users use the Zune App, and Ipod users use Itunes, what does linux have as an app
[12:42] <StefanW> he just has draw desktop disabled in gconf
[12:42] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  2 books u said are Linux Phrases and Ubuntu startup guide right ? as exact text strings to search ?
[12:42] <apo> Laughed: mv
[12:42] <Laughed> Paja: your busy as usually
[12:42] <guest8> macogw: A "File Broswe" with my home folder pops up. Icons on the desktop don't reappear.
[12:42] <Laughed> apo: Mv???
[12:42] <pajamian> Laughed: hehehe
[12:42] <apo> Laughed: mv.
[12:43] <pajamian> brb
[12:43] <apo> Laughed: And mount.
[12:43] <macogw> guest8: im guessing that when you tell compiz it's in charge of the desktop, nautilus stops running on there and compiz wont let nautilus reclaim your desktop.  compiz cant do the icons and right-click thing, though.  those are specifically nautilus.
[12:43] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: no
[12:43] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: the Official Ubuntu Book
[12:43] <StefanW> guest8: gcof-editor -> reenable show_desktop under apps -> nautilus -> preferences
[12:43] <Laughed> APo: so if I do a search in synaptic ill find mv
[12:43] <Linux_Fresher> macogw: kk tx
[12:44] <apo> Laughed: It's already installed...
[12:44] <macogw> Linux_Fresher: that'll get you started.  the reference book for the commandline is the Linux Phrasebook
[12:44] <StefanW> guest8: gconf-editor, sorry...and restart X after :)
[12:44] <apo> Laughed: mv just moves files.
[12:44] <guest8> StefanW: OH, I'll have to log out for that.
[12:44] <guest8> I'll come back in a minute.
[12:44] <StefanW> guest8: yep :)
[12:45] <Laughed> oh, well what would linux users use to manage their media library
[12:45] <Linux_Fresher> macogw:  incidentally, it could be thing with my mind but firefox loads like 2x speed than ie 7 .. or may be i am just mesmerized by ubuntu
[12:45] <Laughed> all in one place (like Zune, and Itunes)
[12:45] <macogw> Laughed: rhythmbox or banshee or exaile or amarok
[12:45] <Laughed> nice
[12:45] <cpk1_> media as in just music or music video and photo?
[12:45] <Laughed> I would want something to manage all media (pics, music, movies)
[12:46] <apo> Laughed: Dunno, there's a bunch of software that can talk to iPods. Rhythmbox, I think.
[12:46] <IndyGunFreak> Laughed: if you need Ipod support also, Rhythmbox is good.
[12:46] <guest8> StefanW: Now it's as before: One background, icons are drawn, right-click works.
[12:46] <macogw> Laughed: gtkpod can dync ipods as well but isnt a media player, and gnomad2 can sync "windows only" players but isnt a media player.  the flash-drive style players and Cowons are drag n drop
[12:46] <macogw> Laughed: well those are music players that i named
[12:46] <apo> Laughed: Or gpixpod, that seems to be able to handle your photos.
[12:46] <StefanW> guest8: yeah... apparantly having seperate desktop images means no icons O_o
[12:46] <macogw> Laughed: pics go in f-spot
[12:46] <cpk1> Laughed: I dont think there are any suites for linux, you need a seperate app for each media type I think
[12:46] <macogw> Laughed: movies....i just keep those in my Videos directory..
[12:47] <apo> Laughed: Just do a search for ipod in synaptic and choose what you want.
[12:47] <macogw> Laughed: MythTV could probably do it
[12:47] <IndyGunFreak> gpixpod?..  never heard of that.
[12:47] <guest8> StefanW: Ok, I'll have to wait for a future release untils I enable that feature then.
[12:47] <apo> IndyGunFreak: synaptic search -> ipod :P
[12:47] <macogw> Laughed: MythTV turns your computer into a Tivo
[12:47] <Laughed> macogow: WOULD i NEED A SPECIAL GRAPHICS CARD FOR MYTH
[12:47] <IndyGunFreak> Laughed: gtkpod is the best Ipod manager if you ask me,
[12:47] <StefanW> guest8: I think so... I'll google a bit more, perhaps ask on the forums :)
[12:47] <IndyGunFreak> apo: hm, guess i never bothered lookin for it.
[12:47] <macogw> Laughed: well Tivo & media player
[12:47] <bazhang> laughed caps please
[12:47] <macogw> Laughed: no need to shout... not to run it
[12:47] <apo> IndyGunFreak: I didn't either, got rockbox on my iPod.
[12:47] <Laughed> oh, thank you. Sorry about that. I didnt even see it
[12:48] <macogw> Laughed: i run it on my intel chip.  but if you wanted to use the tv stuff and get a line-in...yes, you'd need a tv tuner so you can hook up your cable to your computer
[12:48] <Linux_Fresher> brb .. stupid cat spilled coffee  >.<
[12:48] <Laughed> maco: but its not dependent on it, is it?
[12:48] <macogw> Laughed: i dont have a tv tuner. i just use myth for dvds and music
[12:48] <|Dreams|> is there any way in linux to convert a hd movie to wmvhd?
[12:49] <tomasko> hi, i have smb guest access to a windows machine that isn't used too much and i'd like to setup an apt mirror on it. is there anyway i can do that?
[12:49] <guest8> StefanW: Thanks for your efforts. Maybe I'll come back later.
[12:49] <kalatian> |Dreams|: I would guess if it is possible, ffmpeg can do it (or mencoder, pick one)
[12:49] <macogw> Laughed: it has a plugin to sync iPods and i think auto-convert the videos to ones that iPods can play
[12:49] <bazhang> |Dreams|: what is that? some awful MS wmv DRM?
[12:49] <Laughed> k, ill try it. thanks everyone.
[12:49] <IndyGunFreak> apo: i didn't like the idea of rockbox....
[12:49] <apo> IndyGunFreak: I do.
[12:49] <StefanW> guest8: :)
[12:49] <|Dreams|> its so i canm play hd moveis through my xbox
[12:50] <guest8>
[12:50] <macogw> apo, IndyGunFreak: i went with supporting a company that supports linux instead of letting an unsupportive company (like apple) think it's ok to ignore us
[12:50] <guest8> :)
[12:51] <apo> macogw: Which would be?
[12:51] <StefanW> guest8: there's another option
[12:51] <IndyGunFreak> macogw: i had a Sansa E260, it worked pretty good, then I got an Ipod.
[12:51] <legend2440> i am using xchat-gnome and when i leave an irc session and log back in hours later the scrollback text from the last session shows up on top of the MOTD is that normal?
[12:51] <macogw> apo: Cowon
[12:51] <apo> macogw: Ah, yes.
[12:51] <guest8> StefanW: yes...
[12:51] <kalatian> legend2440: yes.
[12:51] <legend2440> kalatian: ok ty
[12:51] <guest8> StefanW: that is ...
[12:52] <ArthurArchnix> hmm... I used to turn my touchpad off automatically with synclient touchpadoff=1 when a mouse was plugged in... but then I discovered that the synaptics driver does a large number of wakeups, reducing my battery life, so I uninstalled it. Now I'm wondering how I can turn off the touchpad... what driver is controlling it in the absence of synaptic?
[12:52] <StefanW> guest8: apparantly, a program called wallpapoz
[12:52] <tomasko> hi, i have smb guest access to a windows machine that isn't used too much and i'd like to setup an apt mirror on it. is there anyway i can do that?
[12:52] <guest8> StefanW: installable with "sudo apt-get install wallpapz"?
[12:52] <tomasko> as far as i know apt requires a web server, but i've heard of all sorts of enhancements like apt-torrent, etc. so i presume it's not completely impossible to setup an apt mirror with smb guest access to a machine (no rdp, etc.)
[12:52] <dgjones> legend2440, i;m not sure about xchat-gnome, but in xchat, there's an option under Settings -> Preferences -> Chatting -> Logging to display or not display the scrollback from previous session
[12:52] <IndyGunFreak> macogw: what the hell is Cowon?.. never heard of it.
[12:52] <StefanW> guest8: checking
[12:53] <macogw> IndyGunFreak: Korean company...someone in #ubuntuforums recommended them to me
[12:53] <kalatian> IndyGunFreak: Korean company that makes music/video players
[12:53] <IndyGunFreak> hmm
[12:53] <macogw> IndyGunFreak: i got my mom to order mine from NewEgg.com
[12:53] <kalatian> IndyGunFreak: supposedly pretty good from recommendations
[12:53] <Laughed> rythmbox does seem like a quick and qualified answer for my mp3 needs... going to go look at myth
[12:53] <guest8> StefanW: "aptitude search wallpapoz" doesn't print anything, so I'll guess not.
[12:53] <macogw> IndyGunFreak: http://www.cowonamerica.com/products/iaudio/7/
[12:53] <legend2440> dgjones:  ok i'll check that ty
[12:54] <macogw> IndyGunFreak: that's mine
[12:54] <guest8> StefanW: But thanks, maybe IÄll google for it later.
[12:54] <tomasko> hi, i have smb guest access to a windows machine that isn't used too much and i'd like to setup an apt mirror on it. is there anyway i can do that?
[12:54] <IndyGunFreak> macogw: thanks...
[12:54] <IndyGunFreak> Laughed: Rythmbox is ok for Ipods, but i think GTKPod is better, just opinion of course
[12:54] <StefanW> guest8: here you go: http://www.getdeb.net/app/Wallpapoz
[12:54] <guest8> Laughed: I use GTKPod
[12:55] <macogw> IndyGunFreak: IndyGunFreak the D2's are supposed to be sweet
[12:55] <macogw> IndyGunFreak: http://www.cowonamerica.com/products/cowon/d2/
[12:55] <IndyGunFreak> hmm
[12:55] <guest8> StefanW: Thanks a lot!
[12:55] <Laughed> Ill keep that in ming thanks Indy, I was actually just using Ipod as an exmaple to Itunes. I dont have an Ipod. =)
[12:56] <ElTimo> hi am I allowed to ask for help with a custom kernel here?
[12:56] <IndyGunFreak> Laughed: oh ok, well if you don't have an ipod, gtkpod is probabloy a bit lacking compared to others.
[12:57] <wsh1977> Anybody here good at helping configure wireless connections?  I am a Linux noob, but I have tried everything in the forums.  Still need help...
[12:57] <kalatian_> wsh1977: sure, what's the problem exactly?
[12:57] <cpk1> wsh1977: just ask away and find out
[12:57] <Laughed> there is like 20 or more fiels associated to myth, should I install all of them or is there a way to wittle this down
[12:58] <Laughed> nm
[12:58] <wsh1977> Ok, running Ubuntu fine on laptop, just installed LinuxMint on desktop
[12:58] <bazhang> ugh
[12:58] <macogw> IndyGunFreak: i got an iaudio because 1) figured the controls would be a bit easier to handle than a touchscreen 2) cheaper 3) the iaudio is barely bigger than a tube of lipstick, so the horribly small pockets in girls jeans accomodate it better than the D2
[12:58] <wsh1977> Have a WUSB54G on desktop that appears to connect to AP, but can't get internet
[12:59] <bazhang> !ultimate
[12:59] <ubotwo> The following are some examples of Ubuntu derived distributions that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes, please consult their websites for more information: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (support in #linuxmint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), Ubuntu Ultimate
[12:59] <kalatian_> wsh1977: we can't help you with linux mint; but see above for their help channel :)
[12:59] <ElTimo> how about me?
[12:59] <wsh1977> k, thanks
[13:00] <bazhang> ElTimo: ask and if anyone knows they will answer ;]
[13:00] <ElTimo> ok
[13:00] <ElTimo> here goes then
[13:00] <IndyGunFreak> i can't really figure out why people use Mint over Ubuntu.
[13:00] <bazhang> its much slower
[13:00] <kalatian_> supposedly it is easier to install.  the cd never worked for me though
[13:00] <StefanW> fancy looks attract the masses
[13:00] <bullgard4> Doing tracker-search-tool in a Gnome terminal opens a window 'Tracker Search' but in the left-hand pane there are no categories listed. Some days ago they were, though. There is no error message in the Gnome terminal. How to repair that?
[13:00] <IndyGunFreak> i've used it before, i find it no faster/slower... and its as easy to install as Ubuntu
[13:01] <macogw> IndyGunFreak: it's blue
[13:01] <bazhang> use it for a while and you will see it is slower
[13:01] <IndyGunFreak> i think the bigger sisue, is the codecs being included w/ the default install, no searching for how to play mp3, avi, etc...
[13:01] <thor> hey there! I'm using a Proprietary ATI driver for my graphics card.. but when I start heavier graphical programs such as games the fps is very low!   is there any way to fix that?
[13:01] <IndyGunFreak> macogw: lol, better than brown
[13:01] <xxx> exit
[13:01] <xxx> EXIT
[13:01] <ElTimo> I just recompiled the kernel for EM64T, and while I do have the NVidia proprietary drivers installed and configured, I can't for the life of me get sound or wireless. I have a dell latitude D820 laptop with (I believe) the intel pro 3945 wireless
[13:01] <bazhang> thor how did you install the driver
[13:02] <kalatian_> thor: what card do you have?
[13:02] <IndyGunFreak> ElTimo: i'm guessing you have intelhDA sound
[13:02] <ElTimo> yes
[13:02] <IndyGunFreak> not sure how to fix that in 64bit.
[13:02] <StefanW> thor: and be sure to disable xgl / compiz before you launch a game ;)
[13:02] <bazhang> ElTimo: you need the restricted driver for that wireless card
[13:03] <ElTimo> I think I compiled it in the process, but I can't find it
[13:03] <thor> I have an ATI Radeon X1600XT drivers I don't know
[13:03] <kalatian_> thor: run fglrxinfo in a terminal and use the pastebin to show us the output
[13:03] <StefanW> thor: as using Xgl (what many people use to get compiz working on ati cards) disabled 3d rendering in applications
[13:03] <tuttle2> ubuntu wont install on my hp pavillion dv2500, what gives?
[13:04] <kalatian_> and fglrx supports aiglx now, so you shouldn't even need compiz anymore
[13:04] <Laughed> I dont know If I am quite ready for myth, it seems like a huge commitment
[13:04] <bazhang> tuttle2: need more info than that please
[13:04] <thor> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[13:04] <thor> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[13:04] <thor> OpenGL renderer string: Radeon X1600 Series
[13:04] <thor> OpenGL version string: 2.0.6473 (8.37.6)
[13:04] <IndyGunFreak> i never was able to get mythtv to setup right, so i just use VLC to watch live TV
[13:04] <Laughed> nice, you just reminded to install VLC.
[13:04] <ElTimo> same
[13:05] <ElTimo> o wait
[13:05] <ElTimo> I can't
[13:05] <ElTimo> I don't have sound >_<
[13:05] <kalatian_> thor: if you run glxgears and wait a few secs, what fps do you get there?
[13:05] <_fabio|> apo, could you maybe check the private messages i sent you? no hurry, but seems like the command isn't working out like i thought in the first moment :)
[13:05] <kalatian_> (should print in the terminal)
[13:05] <izinucs> IndyGunFreak: ok   ... I'll bite.. how do you watch live tv with vlc?
[13:05] <IndyGunFreak> izinucs: quite easily actually
[13:05] <macogw> ElTimo: you need the binary daemon and firmware for the intel wireless...dunno where to get that if you roll your own kernel
[13:06] <IndyGunFreak> izinucs: 1, you obviously need a TV tuner
[13:06] <thor>  2962.256 FPS
[13:06] <ElTimo> crap
[13:06] <ElTimo> thanks
[13:06] <macogw> ElTimo: you could also compile the new iwl3945 driver instead, since that's fully free / open source
[13:06] <ElTimo> o sweet where can I get that?
[13:06] <IndyGunFreak> 2.  then you just file/open/open capture device..
[13:06] <ElTimo> actually never mind ill just google it
[13:06] <macogw> ElTimo: it's what's in use in hardy, and it works well
[13:06] <ElTimo> hmm
[13:06] <IndyGunFreak> izinucs: do you have a TV tuner?
[13:07] <ElTimo> how about sound?
[13:07] <izinucs> IndyGunFreak: ah  ok.. nice.. thanks for the expalination..  no tuner here unfortunatly.. unless an old diamond card counts..
[13:07] <macogw> ElTimo: it's a b****
[13:07] <IndyGunFreak> izinucs: hmm, never heard of that one.
[13:07] <ElTimo> >_<
[13:07] <IndyGunFreak> ElTimo: 64bit IntelHDA, not sure how to fix that one.
[13:07] <bazhang> bleah?
[13:07] <IndyGunFreak> 32bit, it would probably be easy
[13:07] <izinucs> IndyGunFreak: bout 7+ years old
[13:07] <kalatian_> thor:  that's a fairly respectable rate -- what game are you trying to run?
[13:08] <thor> World of Warcraft
[13:08] <IndyGunFreak> izinucs: do you have it working?.. i imagine youc ould get it working w/ TV time or something if you wanted
[13:08] <macogw> ElTimo: intel hda is a "standard" in use all over the place to which none of the hardware actually complies, making it a huge pain for developers and users
[13:08] <kalatian_> thor: so you enter the wonderful world of wine, yes?
[13:08] <macogw> ElTimo: it's also probably the most common laptop audio chip
[13:08] <thor> yep    or at least trying
[13:08] <ElTimo> so I've found
[13:09] <kalatian_> thor: ok, so it looks to me like your card is working fine with 3d, so the problem is probably with wine
[13:09] <izinucs> IndyGunFreak: I should give it a shot.. If I remember correctly it's an old pci card.. Diamond use to make lots of video cards and they were swallowed by someone but can't remember who.
[13:09] <kalatian_> thor: I don't knwo much about wine, so I can't help you much more -- but ask again, someone else probably knows :)
[13:09] <Yacci> Hallo
[13:09] <IndyGunFreak> izinucs: yep, i had a diamond videoo card many many moons ago, 16mb and it was *fast*
[13:10] <NET||abuse> ukkopekka, hey, sorry, was out for a bite to eat,, so you getting places with the irq7 issue?
[13:10] <Yacci> Can anyone tell me, why my external HD doesn't work anymore...?
[13:10] <thor> StefanW wrote that I should disable xgl/compiz   fusion before I start the game.. could that be the issue?
[13:10] <IndyGunFreak> ElTimo: what model is your dell again?
[13:10] <izinucs> IndyGunFreak: :)
[13:10] <kalatian_> Yacci: we need more detail :) does it make a weird clicking sound or something?
[13:10] <Yacci> no
[13:10] <ElTimo> D820
[13:11] <ukkopekka> NET||abuse: uptime 42min and no problems
[13:11] <Yacci> it does the same it ever did
[13:11] <kalatian_> Yacci: what model is it?
[13:11] <apo> _fabio|: I did get no private messages. Did you register your nick?
[13:11] <NET||abuse> ukkopekka, hmm, so explain what you did, you changed over some irq setting?
[13:11] <ArthurArchnix> If I have a mouse and a touchpad, where will these show up in my system? I ask because I want to create a shortcut to unmout the touchpad, or to unload its driver, whichever is simpler and safer.
[13:11] <Yacci> it is not recognized in any system anymore
[13:11] <kalatian_> Yacci: what company/model is your drive?
[13:11] <Yacci> Samsung HD401LJ
[13:12] <izinucs> !reg > izinucs
[13:12] <StefanW> thor: ok, your gears seem to be running good... 2.2k fps is good
[13:12] <ukkopekka> NET||abuse: look up this channel. there are messages for u
[13:12] <StefanW> thor: do you have compiz enabled?
[13:12] <thor> yes, but I don't know how to disable it
[13:12] <_fabio|> ah no i don't remember doing that
[13:12] <_fabio|> anyway
[13:12] <_fabio|> it's working now
[13:12] <ElTimo> thor: metacity --replace
[13:12] <_fabio|> :)
[13:12] <eth01> folks, can we stop on topic.
[13:12] <IndyGunFreak> ElTimo: any particular reason you installed 64bit?
[13:12] <StefanW> thor: in a terminal, use metacity --replace &
[13:13] <_fabio|> i found this little app called pyrenamer
[13:13] <StefanW> adding the & makes it go background :)
[13:13] <eth01> stay, even
[13:13] <apo> _fabio|: Also, try this: find /folder/ -name "*.jpg" -print0 | xargs -0 rename "s/\/[^\/]+\.jpg/\/cover.jpg/"
[13:13] <ElTimo> IndyGunFreak: it's whole buttloads faster
[13:13] <bazhang> haha stop on topic
[13:13] <IndyGunFreak> ElTimo: ?.. not really
[13:13] <eth01> bazhang: typo :)
[13:13] <ArthurArchnix> All the documentation about the touchpad assumes you're using the synaptics driver, but I've uninstalled that because it causes too many wakeups.
[13:13] <_fabio|> thanks for your effort! but pyrenamer did it already, and even with a gui :)
[13:13] <ElTimo> IndyGunFreak: maybe its just a placebo effect then
[13:13] <IndyGunFreak> ElTimo: who told you it was butloads faster?
[13:13] <apo> _fabio|: Heh, fair enough.
[13:13] <na033681> Can someone please help. Whenever I try to boot Ubuntu, it goes to the screen that says "Starting Up..." and seems to freeze.
[13:13] <NET||abuse> ukkopekka, god bless /lastlog
[13:14] <thor> ok i'll try now.. thanks for the help
[13:14] <ElTimo> I did
[13:14] <ukkopekka> NET||abuse: long story short. I disabled parallel port
[13:14] <co_caaaaaaaaaake> hallo.../?
[13:14] <NET||abuse> ukkopekka, ok, just going through the messages
[13:14] <IndyGunFreak> ElTimo: lol, have you used 32bit?
[13:14] <ElTimo> yes
[13:15] <NET||abuse> ukkopekka, yeh, just read it all,, ok, so your parallel being on irq 7, were you able to see if your usb is tied to irq7 also?
[13:15] <ElTimo> IndyGunFreak: I don't know why, but it just seemed slow
[13:15] <IndyGunFreak> wierd, i noticed, little, if any difference at all., except that 64bit was a pain in the ass on everything.
[13:15] <NET||abuse> ukkopekka, i'm not sure how to tell what irq devices are on.
[13:15] <StefanW> !ot
[13:15] <ubotwo> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[13:15] <apo> Hm, claws-mail users here? Is there a way to use a proxy?
[13:15] <shahrukh> Hello
[13:15] <Yacci> kalatian?
[13:15] <IndyGunFreak> !take_a_paxil | StefanW
[13:15] <ubotwo> How should I know?
[13:16] <Jack_Sparrow> NET||abuse, How about dmesg | grep ttyS
[13:16] <StefanW> IndyGunFreak: :D
[13:16] <Jack_Sparrow> NET||abuse, Sorry, just sat down to have coffee, not really awake.
[13:17] <NET||abuse> Jack_Sparrow, :)
[13:17] <ElTimo> IndyGunFreak: and anyway, why only use half your bits? ;)
[13:17] <NET||abuse> Jack_Sparrow, glad to have a fellow coffee addict... i mean "fan".. in the conversation :P
[13:17] <song> hello All
[13:17] <IndyGunFreak> ElTimo: well... i've got a new corvette, but ive never driven 160mph
[13:17] <ukkopekka> NET||abuse: at BIOS there was choises for parallel and serial ports. some irq7 and some irq5 but I just disabled parallel because don't need it
[13:17] <ElTimo> IndyGunFreak: touché
[13:18] <Yacci> Can anyone tell me, why my external HD (samsung hd401lj) doesn't work anymore? It is not recognized by any os anymore...