[02:55] <pl_ice> hey, what file is :  *.flac  i know it's an iso ...
[02:55] <Amaranth> leather_n_luv: what language?
[02:55] <apokryphos> !tell tellim about libdvdcss2
[02:55] <Determinist> john, alright, brb, i'll get you a link for a howto. i want you to follow this howto and ask me questions if something isnt clear about the instructions or if you cant complete them in any way. seems best to me.
[02:55] <server_newbie> Hi all
[02:55] <tellim> ubuntuguide lists hoary repos
[02:55] <john> Determinist, k
[02:55] <apokryphos> !tell tellim about ubuntuguide
[02:56] <leather_n_luv> Amaranth,  bash or sh
[02:56] <pl_ice> !flac
[02:56] <ubotu> No idea, pl_ice
[02:56] <server_newbie> Where can I get a copy of the defualt apache2.conf filr I have dog'd mine bad !!!
[02:56] <sophtpaw> tellim: replace hoary with breezy
[02:56] <Amaranth> leather_n_luv: have you tried #bash? :)
[02:56] <jhenn> is beagle in ubuntu?
[02:56] <sophtpaw> www.ubuntuguide.org
[02:56] <djm62> jhenn: yes
[02:56] <john> something else I dont understand is why cedega only opens after I install it...follow a reboot and it wont run?
[02:56] <Amaranth> sophtpaw: Please don't tell people to go to that site.
[02:56] <ElitePete> can anyone tell me what a good AUDIO CONVERSION tool for linux is, IE FLAC to MP3 ? (GUI please)
[02:56] <leather_n_luv> pl_ice, *.flac = "free lossless audio codec" = sound file
[02:56] <jhenn> djm62: how do you install it?
[02:57] <tellim> sophtpaw, did that, but still wasnt able to find libdvdcss2 for breezy
[02:57] <sophtpaw> Amaranth: ?? : <
[02:57] <Amaranth> sophtpaw: they have you do odd things
[02:57] <apokryphos> sophtpaw: the site is evil and has notoriously caused a lot of problems with its advice.
[02:57] <djm62> jhenn: I thing the name is best (or similar)
[02:57] <pl_ice> leather_n_luv my mate needs that u/d windowz how do i conver it to mp3 etc?
[02:57] <leather_n_luv> Amaranth, will try...
[02:57] <jhenn> djm62: huh?
[02:57] <ElitePete> can anyone tell me what a good AUDIO CONVERSION tool for linux is, IE FLAC to MP3 ? (GUI please)
[02:57] <Determinist> john, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074 <--- you need method 2 which is specified in length after the summary of all 3 methods.
[02:57] <sklav> ok im off guys i need sleep
[02:57] <sophtpaw> Amaranth: sorry, didn't know. It has been very helpful in my life
[02:57] <sklav> im burnt
[02:57] <apokryphos> 'night sklav =)
[02:57] <workbean_ubuntu> no one had that experience? hmmm...
[02:58] <skon> I'm trying to change my application menu but the names of the folders won't change when I change the name in the box...anyone know why?
[02:58] <john> Determinist, ok ill try it bud
[02:58] <djm62> jhenn: apt-get install beagle
[02:58] <leather_n_luv> pl_ice, don't know, not familiar enough with sound prog's...
[02:58] <sophtpaw> tellim: have you gone to synaptic and updated repos there?
[02:58] <djm62> jhenn: this is on breezy
[02:58] <pl_ice> thnx
[02:58] <Determinist> john, i'll give you a link also to the nvidia site for the file you need to download (latest driver isnt the one you need).
[02:58] <sklav> later apokryphos john Determinist
[02:58] <Amaranth> skon: What one are you trying to change?
[02:58] <Determinist> cya sklav mate, nn :)
[02:58] <Aviatrixie> I need to go now. Thanks for the input, pashaw and averyone :)
[02:58] <skon> Amaranth: Office
[02:58] <jhenn> djm62: k thank
[02:59] <Amaranth> skon: Does ~/.local/share/desktop-directories/ have anything in it?
[02:59] <tellim> apokryphos, thanks, at least i was able to get it to display the rating warning at the very beginning for like half a second before it encountered an error :)
[02:59] <tellim> sophtpaw, yes i did that
[02:59] <sophtpaw> and?
[02:59] <Amaranth> skon: That's a path, ~ is /home/<user>/
[02:59] <Determinist> john, this is the file to download from the nvidia site: http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-7667/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7667-pkg1.run
[02:59] <apokryphos> tellim: is it working now with those ubotu instructions?
[02:59] <tellim> sociopath, and.... libdvdcss2 is not there....
[02:59] <foampeace> http://insectwar.free.fr/
[02:59] <tellim> apokryphos, no
[02:59] <skon> Amaranth: yes it has Education.directory and Office.directory
[02:59] <tellim> apokryphos, but getting closer :)
[02:59] <sophtpaw> tellim: synaptic/settings/repositories - tick it all and update
[02:59] <skon> I rename those?
[03:00] <apokryphos> tellim: ok, directly get the deb from giannaros.orb/buntu/breezy/i386 then
[03:00] <sudo_smartass> how do i manage all my apt-get applications and integrate them into my applications menu?
[03:00] <Amaranth> skon: Open gedit and drag the Office.directory file on to the gedit window
[03:00] <apokryphos> tellim: *.org
[03:00] <sudo_smartass> ie. WINE
[03:00] <Amaranth> sudo_smartass: Please change your nick.
[03:00] <foampeace> games games games!
[03:00] <sophtpaw> tellim: then search libdvdcss2 mark and apply for installation - done
[03:00] <tellim> sophtpaw, im a command line kinda guy, all repos enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:01] <existance> I'm trying to make the menu.list for GRUB, but I know how to figure out what kernel I have or what the video= should be
[03:01] <sophtpaw> tellim: fair enough.   I reinstalled XP recently and it wiped grub
[03:02] <john> Determinist, nope, all closed
[03:02] <Amaranth> !grub
[03:02] <ubotu> from memory, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[03:02] <existance> gratzi
[03:02] <pl_ice> guys my xmms crashes, when i try install wma plugin or itouch any help with it?
[03:02] <sophtpaw> Amaranth: is that the official version then, not to send people to the ubuntuguide? in the forums everyone gets directed there as a first line of problem solving
[03:02] <nekostar> arg
[03:02] <nekostar> does grub normally clench up when installing on a laptop?
[03:02] <skon> Amaranth: okay so I can change that file....by the way are there supposed to be dozens of lines in different languages? or did i install some langauge pack by mistake?
[03:02] <nekostar> its been frozen for a few minutes..
[03:02] <apokryphos> sophtpaw: yes, don't direct them there please
[03:03] <ssstormy> nekostar, it did that to me too
[03:03] <Amaranth> sophtpaw: The people on the forums can do what they want, we've had too many users with unexplainable problems caused by ubuntuguide that came here for help.
[03:03] <Amaranth> sophtpaw: So no ubuntuguide here.
[03:03] <ssstormy> nekostar, but it started working a few installs later.  I must have changed a fwe things
[03:03] <Determinist> john, no idea there, try a reboot, perhaps it's some system fart because of the changes you've made... btw, the system might not boot into X if you do that :P
[03:03] <Amaranth> skon: It's supposed to be like that.
[03:04] <skon> k thanks for oyur help
[03:04] <john> when wanting to reboot I get an Xauthority not writable and it closes out to a terminal?
[03:04] <jhenn> does anyone have yahoo messenger?
[03:04] <Amaranth> skon: I was having you open this file for debugging, actually. :)
[03:04] <tellim> apokryphos, that libdvdcss2 doesnt give me the mpaa rating warning like the other one does..... this is all so odd
[03:04] <Amaranth> skon: But you can just change the name in there too.
[03:04] <sophtpaw> Amaranth: someone would do well then to tell the moderators at the forums too. Because i almost thought it was official
[03:04] <Amaranth> skon: Look for 'Name='
[03:04] <skon> Amaranth: all I had to do was change the name of the file
[03:04] <sudo_smartass> where can i find the "wine" program that my apt-get downloaded/installed?
[03:04] <nekostar> ssstormy, gnome is still faster than xp right?
[03:04] <nekostar> how big is the default install?
[03:04] <Amaranth> sudo_smartass: Change your nick and I'll tell you.
[03:05] <Amaranth> nekostar: You probably need a 4GB drive for the installation but it only takes about 2GB.
[03:05] <ssstormy> nekostar, sometimes.  XP really is nice sometimes, but gnome dosn't freeze
[03:05] <nekostar> ouch
[03:05] <Epix> finish him!
[03:05] <nekostar> its only a 4.5gig hdd total
[03:05] <skon> nice
[03:05] <maskd> bannality
[03:05] <nekostar> i wanna keep ubuntu under a gig
[03:05] <Amaranth> He left.
[03:06] <Epix> ah.
[03:06] <apokryphos> nekostar: default install is 1.8 gigs
[03:06] <Epix> well, he finished himself.
[03:06] <ssstormy> nekostar, to do that ...
[03:06] <nekostar> holy ouch
[03:06] <steven_> can anyone tell me of an audio file converter, IE flac to Mp3 with a gui, for ubuntu ?
[03:06] <Epix> nekostar: you can try the server install
[03:06] <nekostar> server isntall + windowmaker then
[03:06] <j2daosh> ok amar... wheres it at? ~/.wine?
[03:06] <apokryphos> nekostar: worth trying
[03:06] <john> ok all im gonna reinstall, my head is done in now
[03:06] <maskd> im so happy, the version of vlc with dapper is much better than the one included with breezy
[03:06] <Epix> nekostar: basicly, it installs a very simple system and you install the rest of the packages.
[03:06] <john> thanks for all your help guys
[03:07] <Amaranth> j2daosh: /usr/bin/wine is the thing you run
[03:07] <ssstormy> steve__, try audacity
[03:07] <john> gonna install fresh then follow the guide for the nvidia site drivers
[03:07] <apokryphos> maskd: funny, it wasn't installing at all yesterday.
[03:07] <Amaranth> j2daosh: The config stuff is in ~/.wine/
[03:07] <ssstormy> steve__, sorry
[03:07] <Epix> nekostar: not the best thing for newbies, but I dont know how much experance you have...
[03:07] <ssstormy> steven_, try audacity
[03:07] <Determinist> john, np mate, good luck, give me a holler once you do and need help with the driver mate
[03:07] <steven_> ssstormy, that encodes?
[03:07] <maskd> apokryphos, really?
[03:07] <john> Determinist, you bet! he he
[03:07] <nekostar> ive got enough to do that much Epix
[03:07] <apokryphos> maskd: down to dbus transition, yes. I should take a look into it actually.
[03:07] <maskd> vlc 0.8.4?
[03:07] <ssstormy> steven_, it's actually an audio editor
[03:07] <ssstormy> just import the file
[03:07] <Determinist> <--- back to philosophy paper
[03:07] <ssstormy> and save it in your new format
[03:07] <steven_> ok ssstormy
[03:07] <apokryphos> maskd: yup
[03:08] <Epix> anyway, anyone have a clue why gparted wont work? I resize, reboot and nothing changed! This is on Ubuntu 5.10 Live
[03:08] <ssstormy> although it does need extensions to do flac and mp3
[03:08] <ssstormy> but it's  pretty easy
[03:08] <maskd> apokryphos: it installed without a hitch for me
[03:08] <mark_> i need help with rescue
[03:08] <sophtpaw> ssstormy: does audacity also deal with avi files ?
[03:08] <ssstormy> Epix, are you sure you were partitioning your disk and not the RAM drive/
[03:08] <ssstormy> sophtpaw, no just audio
[03:08] <mark_> its asking me which device to mount as a root file system
[03:08] <ssstormy> sophtpaw, try mencoder
[03:08] <sophtpaw> thx
[03:08] <Epix> nekostar: then it might be worth a shot. you can choose a lot of custom settings!
[03:08] <ssstormy> sophtpaw, you might have to add some custom repositires
[03:09] <tjb13> hey guys, do any of you know how to get sleep working
[03:09] <Epix> ssstormy: heh, i dont think so, but ill check!
[03:09] <mark_> can anyone help me
[03:09] <nekostar> Epix, im intending to make a portable anime viewing machine heh
[03:09] <nekostar> + watching dvd's and htats it
[03:09] <sophtpaw> ssstormy: ok,
[03:09] <Epix> ssstormy: no, /dev/hda
[03:09] <ssstormy> sophtpaw, mencoder is an extension of mplayer, so you will need to look in universe/multiverse and outside
[03:09] <nekostar> its only 600mhz celeron 128MB ram dell insperion 4000
[03:09] <nekostar> 5gig hdd or so
[03:09] <steven_> ssstormy, where can i get the file audacity needs to save as mp3, lame encoder or something? then i need to locate the .so file
[03:09] <ssstormy> Epix, couldn't tell ya then
[03:10] <ssstormy> it should give you some message
[03:10] <chance2105_> Ok.  So I did the first stage of installation.  Rebooted.  The computer shows "Installing packages" and "Preparing for installtion..." but is hanging at 0%.  I can VT-Switch and login as the user I set up, but the installation isn't going anywhere.  What can I do to get the installation going again?
[03:10] <john> so how does one install a deb file?
[03:10] <nekostar> and i need to get a serial cable so i can connect it to one of my desktops >.<
[03:10] <mark_> can anyone help me understand why disk 0 shows parts 1, 2, 3 and 5
[03:10] <Epix> nekostar: then all you really need is base system + xorg + some kind of wm + video player + (legit copies) of movies!
[03:10] <ssstormy> if not, search in synaptic for something like "lib mp3"
[03:10] <nekostar> unless... i could get a usb cable with a doodad
[03:10] <Determinist> john, sudo dpkg -i <file>
[03:10] <ssstormy> john, dpkg -i blah
[03:10] <nekostar> Epix, dvd's yeah :)
[03:10] <ssstormy> mark_, it has a extended partition
[03:10] <nekostar> ive got a few hundred... i should really buy less i suppose heh
[03:11] <skon> Okay I have some programs that show up in the menu editor as visible, but they do not show up in the menus, anyone know why?
[03:11] <apokryphos> maskd: hm, vlc there seems to depend on libdbus-1-1 (but >0.5) for some reason
[03:11] <mark_> okies i got a sh-3.00#
[03:11] <mark_> now what
[03:11] <Epix> nekostar: the only problem I can see is in the ram, but you shouldnt have any issues with playing movies. 600mhz is enough.
[03:11] <ssstormy> skon, happened to me too, no clue
[03:11] <leather_n_luv> does anyone know how to export a setting from a *.conf file to a variable in a script?
[03:11] <sophtpaw> ssstormy: there's a choice of mencoders: custom/586/k6/k7 they all seems to do the same thing? any recommendations?
[03:11] <j2daosh> ok... got another question
[03:11] <steven_> ssstormy, i can't find the lame mp3 encoder in apt-cache search
[03:11] <mark_> it doesn't appear to prompting me anymore
[03:11] <nekostar> Epix, probably too slow to play my sweet .mkv's though :/
[03:11] <ssstormy> sophtpaw, what processor do you have?
[03:11] <sophtpaw> errr....
[03:12] <maskd> apokryphos, does it work if you apt-get it?
[03:12] <ssstormy> steven_, apt-cache is what you already downloaded
[03:12] <mark_> so now what do i do
[03:12] <Epix> nekostar: worth a shot :P
[03:12] <steven_> ssstormy, how fo i find the lame mp3 encoder then?
[03:12] <sophtpaw> ssstormy: 86?
[03:12] <apokryphos> maskd: nope, depends on a much later version of libdbus-1-1
[03:12] <ssstormy> sophtpaw, go to command line and do "cat /proc/cpuinfo" or whatever th efilename is
[03:12] <steven_> ssstormy, it says i have it..
[03:12] <maskd> woah, for some reason i have a lot of cdroms in my /media/ folder
[03:12] <ssstormy> steven_, you have it?
[03:12] <j2daosh> in windows systems there is a program called dameon tools... it allows you to mount a virtual drive (cd-rom) and mount .iso files for use without actually being a cd... is there a similiar program in linux?
[03:12] <Epix> ssstormy: no, apt-cache search searches all software in the source.
[03:13] <j2daosh> and if so... what is the name and what repo will i find it in???
[03:13] <steven_> ssstormy, yea but audacity wants
[03:13] <Razor-X> j2daosh: you need no program to do that
[03:13] <ssstormy> Epix oops my bad
[03:13] <steven_> libmp3lame.so
[03:13] <nekostar> heh
[03:13] <pl_ice> j2daosh u don't have to have one, u just mount it with -o loop
[03:13] <mark_> hmmm
[03:13] <Razor-X> j2daosh: most UNIXes mount by default
[03:13] <mark_> how come it says it can't find the device to mount to
[03:13] <maskd> apokryphos, pretty strange then why mine worked, i've pretty much only let it auto update to the latest of everything
[03:13] <dabaR> !me accepts towellie's invitation
[03:13] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, dabaR
[03:13] <ssstormy> steven_, so look and see if that file, or one with near- identical name is in /lib or /usr/lib
[03:13] <j2daosh> yeah but im looking for a virtual one...
[03:13] <maskd> apokryphos, and fresh installed with dapper flight 2 iso
[03:13] <steven_> ssstormy, how do i find liblame.so ?
[03:13] <j2daosh> basically emulating a cd-rom
[03:13] <apokryphos> maskd: what version of libdbus-1-1 do you have?
[03:13] <leather_n_luv> !sed
[03:13] <ubotu> leather_n_luv: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[03:14] <leather_n_luv> lol
[03:14] <maskd> apokryphos, how do i check?
[03:14] <apokryphos> maskd: ah, that's why. You're running on a different dapper then -- I presumed you were on today's
[03:14] <ssstormy> steven_,  just look for it in the /lib or /usr/lib dir
[03:14] <sophtpaw> ssstormy: says, 'cpu family' 6
[03:14] <mark_> `any ideas anyone.... i'm really stuck
[03:14] <Epix> oh winrar, why must you be so slow... Its been 23 min, and my archive is still extracting...
[03:14] <mark_> i've tried a number of methods to reinstall grub
[03:14] <j2daosh> so .iso's can be played from a file on my harddrive instead of having to burn it to a disk first and then playing it
[03:14] <ssstormy> sophtpaw, look at model name
[03:14] <mark_> and keep getting the same errors
[03:14] <j2daosh> am i making any sense?
[03:14] <pl_ice> j2daosh but u can just mount the cd/iso etc in a foler and point a game etc to it...
[03:15] <mark_> i know that both windows and ubuntu are on hde
[03:15] <pashaw> j2daosh, http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/5639
[03:15] <mark_> but when i try to install grub there it tells me it can't find it
[03:15] <sophtpaw> ssstormy: it is an  Athlone AMD XP 2800+ (is that what you mean?)
[03:15] <oveh> is it possible for thunderbird to download all the mails on the gmail account?
[03:15] <tjb13> nobody here knows how to get sleep working on a thinkpad
[03:15] <slide> ok wtf, gam_server is using 950megs of Virtual Memory
[03:15] <maskd> apokryphos, do you have any idea on how to fix the prob?
[03:15] <tjb13> I'm shootin blanks here
[03:15] <Razor-X> j2daosh: you know what mount does, right?
[03:15] <chance2105_> oveh: Yup.
[03:16] <ssstormy> sophtpaw, ok good.  you'll wanna remeber that for future.  you have a k7 processor
[03:16] <steven_> ssstormy, how do i search a folder
[03:16] <j2daosh> pl_ice, ur saying if i go into my fstab and add an entry that points to the .iso it will automagically consider it a mounted device?
[03:16] <oveh> chance2105_: how? :-)
[03:16] <sophtpaw> ssstormy: ok, so mencoder k7 for me
[03:16] <dabaR> mark_: what exactly are you doing? from the beginning...
[03:16] <ssstormy> steven_, the easy way is open a terminal and type "ls /usr/lib/"
[03:16] <steven_> ssstormy, k
[03:16] <ssstormy> steven_, and begin typing the name of what you want
[03:16] <pl_ice> j2daosh yeh, u can just type eg. mount /file.iso  /a  -o loop it's in the man,
[03:16] <ssstormy> steven_, and then hit tab a few times
[03:16] <apokryphos> maskd: yup, it's not a problem to get around. Just was curious that it was smooth for you (but we're running different dapper).
[03:16] <ssstormy> it will list all that match that name start
[03:17] <sik> So.. yeah... I'm a bit of a newbie and my current linux guru is unavailable. I just got a NexStar external hd enclosure and gan't get it to read or mount. can anyone help with this?
[03:17] <j2daosh> interesting...
[03:17] <mark_> thanks dabaR
[03:17] <Dreamglider> what is a easy diskpartioning tool for ubuntu
[03:17] <chance2105_> oveh:  http://gmail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=12103\
[03:17] <j2daosh> ill have to take a look at that
[03:17] <ssstormy> steven_, btw I mean before you hit enter, start the name of what you want
[03:17] <chance2105_> oveh:  err, omit the last " \ "
[03:17] <MachineScrew> any one know how to make a DVD out of an Xvid
[03:17] <sophtpaw> ssstormy: k6 is the same but more stable i think i'm getting the impression. Also says it is for AMD
[03:17] <mark_> i am desperately trying to reinstall grub after reinstalling windows
[03:17] <jcsmith> hi all
[03:17] <ssstormy> sophtpaw, well k7 is a link to k6 right now in that thing
[03:17] <maskd> hi jcsmith
[03:17] <mark_> can you help me dabaR ?
[03:18] <MachineScrew> any one
[03:18] <ssstormy> sophtpaw, but k7 IS a little dif, so remember that and always use k7 versions for your computer
[03:18] <skon> So nobody knows why half of my programs don't show up  in the menu even though they are enabled in the menu editor?
[03:18] <jcsmith> I'm trying to get TV out working properly with an NVIDIA FX5200 Graphis card and i can get the picture displaying on the television, some really annoying lines scroll up the screen
[03:18] <jcsmith> any ideas?
[03:18] <nekostar> darn
[03:18] <mark_> i have reviewed all of the tutorials to no avail
[03:18] <MachineScrew> any one know how to make a DVD out of an Xvid
[03:18] <ssstormy> jcsmith, that has to do with the refresh rate
[03:18] <nekostar> i get a no compatable kernel error on instal :/
[03:18] <dabaR> mark_: have you followed the wiki instructions? I have not done that yet. Never installed windows after I got Ubuntu...
[03:18] <oveh> chance2105_: i get tbird to download new messages, but it is alot of old emails on the account that i would like inside tbird
[03:18] <mark_> yes i have dabaR
[03:18] <ssstormy> mark_, you can always give lilo a shot
[03:19] <mark_> lilo?
[03:19] <steven_> ssstormy, i'm sure i dont have it
[03:19] <mark_> is it another boot client like grub?
[03:19] <MachineScrew> can k3b do it
[03:19] <ssstormy> steven_, ok lemme look a sec
[03:19] <chance2105_> oveh:  The answer to your question is on that link.  Click "Other".
[03:19] <ssstormy> mark_, yup.  The original
[03:19] <mark_> i liked grub
[03:19] <mark_> it worked fine
[03:19] <chillywilly> is bind9 on the breezy install CD?
[03:19] <chance2105_> oveh:  Then click "enabling POP in Gmail"
[03:20] <mark_> its just that windows pooped as per usual
[03:20] <GTroy> anyone have an idea why my sound is scratchy? from both kaffeine and beep/xmms?
[03:20] <ssstormy> steven_, so is mp3 working?
[03:20] <john> im trying to play a dvd in both ogle and okle but when I click on open disc the software crashes and closes
[03:20] <chillywilly> apt tells me it cannot find it
[03:20] <mark_> and i had to reinstal it
[03:20] <zak> how do i mount a disk image?
[03:20] <john> anyone know why? or can recommend a failsafe dvd player?
[03:20] <sik> Can anyone help me get my NexStar external working?
[03:20] <jcsmith> ssstormy: i've been playing with the HorizSync, Should I try adjust the vertRefresh? Do you have any idea what it should be set to for a US tv?
[03:20] <sophtpaw> ssstormy: if you insist its better i'll remove k6 and install k7. However, won't the update manager do that anyways?
[03:20] <steven_> ssstormy, yea i need this for audacity to save files as mp3
[03:20] <dabaR> mark_: well, you followed the wiki? and you used fdisk to find out what hdX your hard drive is?
[03:20] <megryan> i am having problems with my bank's login screen
[03:20] <chance2105_> oveh:  even better, login to your gmail account and play with the screens shown on the webpage.  It took me all of 30 seconds for figure it out three days ago .. I don't even remember how, it was so easy. :)
[03:20] <ssstormy> jcsmith, you'll have to look
[03:20] <mark_> i have two installed
[03:20] <ssstormy> jcsmith, on the web
[03:21] <ssstormy> steven_, oh yeah, forgot what lame was
[03:21] <pl_ice> megryan probably they arogant :/
[03:21] <mark_> i did fdisk before i reinstalled windows
[03:21] <jcsmith> ssstormy: yea, i'll ask google, i was just hoping that since you knew that much maybe you knew the rest ;)
[03:21] <megryan> pl_ice hey can you help
[03:21] <mark_> i managed to gain root user access in the proper drive
[03:21] <christi> does ubuntu support Xen?
[03:21] <steven_> ssstormy, so how do i get libmp3lame
[03:21] <steven_> and it's .so
[03:21] <john> what software does everyone use to watch DVD's?
[03:22] <chance2105_> john:  totem
[03:22] <oveh> chance2105_: okei, thanx :-)
[03:22] <mark_> but when i do a grub-install /dev/hde it gives me an error message
[03:22] <ssstormy> steven_, well I think the package is liblame0
[03:22] <pl_ice> megryan seen somwhere that u can emulate IE for problems like that, u using firefox?
[03:22] <john> chance2105_, how do you make totem play dvds?
[03:22] <megryan> yes
[03:22] <steven_> ssstormy, i got that but i can't find libmp3lame.s0
[03:22] <mark_> it says it could not find device for /boot
[03:22] <steven_> libmp3lame.so
[03:22] <steven_> how do i search my whole pc?
[03:23] <megryan> i was able to login b4 but i installed tab browser thing and since then i've had problems
[03:23] <oveh> chance2105_: Enable POP only for mail that arrives from now on, it worked  :D
[03:23] <oveh> chance2105_: enable pop for all mail i mean
[03:23] <mark_> when i checked fstab prior to the windows install it did not show a seperate /boot partition
[03:23] <pl_ice> megryan give us the address? will c
[03:23] <maskd> mm i seem to have locked up the gnome panels, how do you restart them?
[03:24] <ssstormy> steven_, go to synaptic and go to properties of that package.  go to installed files
[03:24] <ssstormy> steven_, and find the .so, cause it's name is SLIGHTLY different
[03:24] <megryan> yep one sec
[03:24] <dabaR> mark_: well, it is obviously not there.
[03:24] <megryan> http://www.encompasscu.com.au/
[03:25] <GTroy> john: do you have the codecs installed?
[03:25] <steven_> ssstormy, i did search files it was
[03:25] <pl_ice> love linux :)
[03:25] <dabaR> you know what hde means? it is 5th ide drive,
[03:25] <steven_> libmp3lame.so.0
[03:25] <mark_> any other ideas
[03:25] <sik> Can anyone help me get my NexStar external hd working?
[03:25] <dabaR> mark_: ya, are you in ubuntu live?
[03:25] <megryan> new to ubuntu and it rox
[03:25] <mark_> i have a copy of fstab and fdisk i could paste in private if like
[03:25] <dabaR> mark_: just chill out for 1.
[03:25] <mark_> i'm using ubuntu install
[03:25] <dabaR> !paste
[03:25] <ubotu> rumour has it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[03:25] <steven_> ssstormy, just tried to convert it was all screwed up
[03:25] <mark_> just typed rescue at the boot prompt
[03:26] <pl_ice> john u need to decode dvds with libcss library, not codecs
[03:26] <chance2105_> john:  I lost my link.  There's a nice page on "restricted formats" somewhere on ubuntu.com.  It lists how to set up dvd playback.
[03:26] <ssstormy> steven_, try playing the input file back from audacity
[03:26] <vy2wu> Any ham operators on here?
[03:26] <chance2105_> john:  found it ..   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:27] <Linfan> i want to update firefox to 1.5 how can i do it? i went to firefox.com and downloaded the file but i dont know how to install it
[03:27] <pl_ice> ham? i'm hungry :)
[03:27] <megryan> i have mplayer plugin for mozilla - downloads the media but no player present..
[03:27] <john> chance2105_, thanks
[03:27] <dabaR> mark_: what? then your grub works or no?
[03:27] <vy2wu> oh well
[03:27] <mark_> no
[03:27] <vy2wu> Think I will dive out.
[03:27] <dabaR> mark_: win rescue mode?
[03:27] <steven_> ssstormy, the 2 files for it are /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0.0.0
[03:27] <steven_> /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0
[03:27] <mark_> no
[03:27] <dabaR> pah
[03:28] <mark_> i am using ubuntu install cd
[03:28] <ssstormy> steven_, try the .so.0 one
[03:28] <steven_> ssstormy, i did, and when i outputted it it was screwed up
[03:28] <Linfan> the led that lets me know my wireless is on is not showing a light anyway to make it work
[03:28] <sik> Can anyone help me get my NexStar external hd working?
[03:28] <mark_> typed rescue after after the cd gave me the boot: argument
[03:29] <dabaR> mark_: can you fdisk? can you paste?
[03:29] <mark_> nope
[03:29] <ssstormy> steven_, but can audacity play back the file ok?
[03:29] <pl_ice> sik, is it usb connection?
[03:29] <sik> yes
[03:29] <steven_> ssstormy, no
[03:29] <sik> pl_ice: yes it is
[03:29] <dabaR> mark_: how are you following the wiki then?
[03:29] <mark_> i have the prompt sh-3.00#
[03:29] <mark_> i have a network
[03:30] <ssstormy> steven_, how did you get the audio file to be converted into audacity?
[03:30] <mark_> right now i am on another computer
[03:30] <ssstormy> and what format was it anyway?
[03:30] <sophtpaw> does internet explorer run on GNU/Linux os?
[03:30] <pl_ice> sik and it didn't mount it automatically somwhere?
[03:30] <sik> pl_ice: when I check the system disks and /dev it shows as sda
[03:30] <ssstormy> sophtpaw, if you want to use wine
[03:30] <pl_ice> sophtpaw yes,
[03:30] <sik> however it hasn't mounted, and I've no way into it
[03:30] <sophtpaw> only with wine?
[03:31] <steven_> ssstormy, i selected export as mp3
[03:31] <pl_ice> sophtpaw there is a thread in ubuntuforums.org about it, can't remember more ...
[03:31] <sophtpaw> pl_ice: ok, i'll search it
[03:31] <pl_ice> sik just try mountind sda1
[03:31] <sorush20> guys how do I undo what this command does?
[03:32] <steven_> ssstormy, do i need to do anything else after i say export as?
[03:32] <sik> pl_ice: there isn't sda1, just sda... and I did try to mount it
[03:32] <j2daosh> ok... that mount /file.iso /a -o loop didn't work
[03:32] <sophtpaw> ssstormy: you're saying i'd install wine first and then i can simply download IE and run it as normal?
[03:32] <SEJeff> sorush20, What command?
[03:32] <steven_> the file is saving as like 100kb also.. so..
[03:32] <root___> anyone willing to help me get my video card working?  I just installed Breezy and it freezes with a grey screen as soon as it starts xorg.
[03:32] <nix4me> why would anyone want to use ie
[03:32] <greenwom> lo
[03:32] <regplus> Is firestarte enabled by default?
[03:32] <sorush20>    echo fglrx | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[03:32] <nix4me> especially on linux
[03:32] <ssstormy> steven_, if the original audio file can't play back successfully in audacity you know you ahve a problem
[03:32] <SEJeff> nix4me, Web design testing
[03:33] <sorush20> SEJeff: this command    echo fglrx | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[03:33] <dabaR> root___: dont do IRC as root, come back as another user.
[03:33] <steven_> ssstormy, the original can
[03:33] <nix4me> ahh
[03:33] <ssstormy> sophtpaw, well you have it install it
[03:33] <skon> Anyone know how to create custom themes in Gnome? Actually picking colors and stuff?
[03:33] <ssstormy> steven_, that's odd. I don't know what's wrong...
[03:33] <steven_> ssstormy, actually no it can
[03:33] <steven_> t
[03:33] <pl_ice> sik throw dmesg just after u plug in the hdd will tell u a lot
[03:33] <chance2105_> What's a good Gnome-ish CPU userspace frequency adjustment program?
[03:33] <SEJeff> sorush20, You added fglrx to the end of /etc/modules
[03:33] <SEJeff> sorush20, That is a very odd way to do it
[03:33] <greenwom> problem, can't format a usb drive.  It shows as write protected but doesn't have a switch  what should I use
[03:33] <ssstormy> steven_, that would be why
[03:33] <ssstormy> steven_, how'd you add it?
[03:33] <sophtpaw> nix4me: i don't know about anyone. In my case to be able to access my business account only, IE is the only one on which allows me to, while they are working on other browsers
[03:34] <sorush20> SEJeff: well its what is used int official ubuntu wiki
[03:34] <grant_> can anyone help me with my vid card?  Xorg freezes as soon as it loads on a fresh install of breezy.  Its a radeon 9250
[03:34] <pl_ice> sik and then lsusb,
[03:34] <SEJeff> sorush20, sudo echo "fglrx" >> /etc/modules is much easier
[03:34] <ssstormy> steven_, proper way is Projects->Import Audio
[03:34] <chance2105_> The Gnome panel-applet seems only to monitor the frequency, not adjust it. :/
[03:34] <sorush20> SEJeff: will it make any difference in it action and loading/
[03:34] <SEJeff> sorush20, The official wiki is full of things that will break your system :)     sudo gedit /etc/modules... delete the last line and then save it
[03:34] <SEJeff> sorush20, no
[03:34] <nix4me> sophtpaw k
[03:34] <sorush20> SEJeff: thanks.
[03:34] <SEJeff> sorush20, That is just a rather stupid way to do it
[03:35] <ockertom> hi peeps just installed this distro then did a instal for skype but it seems to be missing libsdtc++.5?
[03:35] <existance> is there a command to tell me what version kernel I am running?
[03:35] <sik> pl_ice: as I stated earlier, I'm a bit of a newbie and I understand none of what it's saying
[03:35] <greenwom> any know a low level format utility for USB drives?
[03:36] <psusi> existance, uname -a
[03:36] <grant_> anyone know how to get a radeon 9250 to work with xorg?  It freezes as soon as it starts with the ati, radeon or fglrx drivers
[03:36] <dabaR> existance: no, you can't know.
[03:36] <dragonbyte> existance: cat /proc/version
[03:36] <aconbere> after stage 1 of installation is ubuntu actualy installed?
[03:36] <aconbere> that is could you reboot and get a gnome desktop?
[03:36] <slide> I have 3 harddrives, a 300GB, 150GB and a 100GB. Is there anyway to combine them all to act as one drive?
[03:36] <pl_ice> pc on fire ! back in sec
[03:36] <Sepheebear> slide: use LVM
[03:36] <dragonbyte> slide: raid
[03:36] <ssstormy> aconbere, the full install is done after about 20 min after reboot
[03:36] <psusi> greenwom, "low level format" has not really existed outside the factory for a good 10-15 years... you can use mkfs.fat to format it for fat
[03:36] <grant_> slide:  yes, logical volume management.  But if one drive fails you'll lose everything
[03:37] <SEJeff> grant_, Likely a hardware problem... I am running a 9250 right now
[03:37] <slide> LVM is better/easier then raid?
[03:37] <mark_> dabaR, i've been following that turtorial to a t
[03:37] <christi> slide: depends
[03:37] <ssstormy> aconbere, it copies over the full, complicate system in the form of packages, which it unpacks and instlals after you reboot
[03:37] <SEJeff> slide, Totally different thing
[03:37] <Sepheebear> lvm is not raid
[03:37] <psusi> slide, yes... you can use LVM... but if one drive dies, you loose ALL the data
[03:37] <mark_> i get to the end and get the error message
[03:37] <christi> slide: LVM has some cool stuff indeed
[03:37] <steven_> OMFG
[03:37] <dabaR> mark_: go into a live Ubuntu already.
[03:37] <steven_> ssstormy, still wont work man
[03:37] <slide> grant_, and by fail, do you mean fail totally or what if it just starts to hiccup for a bit and then works again?
[03:37] <mark_> already tried that
[03:37] <Sepheebear> you dont necessarily lose all your data
[03:38] <mark_> but i'll try again
[03:38] <steven_> ssstormy, does audacity support flac?
[03:38] <dabaR> mark_: don't do it!
[03:38] <grant_> slide:  if a hdd fails with lvm and they are all merged together you won't be able to use any of them
[03:38] <pl_ice> sik plug in the hd and then in console type : dmesg  shows all errors etc, should find the hd
[03:38] <mark_> why
[03:38] <mark_> too late
[03:38] <grant_> SEJeff:  the card works fine under windows
[03:38] <steven_> ssstormy, xmms plays the file fine, but audacity doesn't
[03:38] <mark_> i already rebooted
[03:38] <Faithful> Hey... samba on breezy is way behind and has issues with domain logins
[03:38] <slide> grant_, yea, but what if it just fails for a bit and then comes back, will they all be ok?
[03:39] <psusi> slide, possibly
[03:39] <regplus> Is FIRESTARTE FIREWALL installed by default?
[03:39] <chance2105_> Why does gnome-applets replace gnome-cpufreq-applet?  The cpufreq applet included with gnome-applets does not let you _set_ the frequency, just monitor it ...
[03:39] <j2daosh> ok how can i either mount a file so a program thinks its a disc... or change where the program looks for the file?
[03:39] <grant_> slide:  i dont know...probably if you didn't try to write to them or anything
[03:39] <pl_ice> guys is there a package for ubuntu wallpaper tray (wp_tray) ? cant find it
[03:39] <Faithful> samba 3.0.14 vs 3.0.21
[03:39] <sik> pl_ice: something about unknown key codes *shrug*
[03:39] <Linfan> what do i need in order to have my wireless need working on my laptop
[03:39] <psusi> regplus, no
[03:39] <j2daosh> regplus... no
[03:39] <Faithful> debian is upto samba 3.0.20-b4
[03:39] <grant_> SEJeff:  which vid drivers are you using on the 9250?
[03:39] <aconbere> if stage 2 fails, can you just reboot and try again?
[03:39] <pl_ice> sik, u got msofr keyborad :/ got the same errors, but should say that it found usb etc
[03:40] <Faithful> well scrub my box and lose my work I guess.
[03:40] <ssstormy> steven_, hmm... you could try redownloading and installing audacity and liblame
[03:40] <ssstormy> remove them completely first
[03:40] <ssstormy> also, checkthe original file
[03:40] <ssstormy> try playing it in xmms or totem
[03:40] <pl_ice> *microsfot
[03:40] <ssstormy> what fomat is it?
[03:41] <mark_> brb need a smoke
[03:41] <j2daosh> ahh... a smoke
[03:41] <j2daosh> i need one too
[03:41] <j2daosh> brb
[03:41] <sik> pl_ice: k. well it says it found it attached and scanned the hdd
[03:41] <llama32> anyone? how to mount loop device? mount says it cant find /dev/loop*
[03:41] <pl_ice> sik type lsusb
[03:42] <pl_ice> llama32 -o loop
[03:42] <pl_ice> at end
[03:42] <sik> pl_ice: and it shows there's a connection to a usb port being used
[03:42] <llama32> pl_ice: ive got that, it says cant find /dev/loop* though
[03:42] <cafuego> llama32: muount -t <type> -o loop <file> <mountpoint>
[03:42] <cafuego> llama32: Run it as root, then the 'loop' module should auto-load.
[03:43] <Shadyman_> What's up, all?
[03:43] <llama32> cafuego: should it work with sudo or should i open a shell as root?
[03:43] <cafuego> llama32: sudo is fine
[03:43] <pl_ice> llama32 not sure put all line what u typing
[03:43] <Shadyman_> Fuego!
[03:43] <llama32> cafuego: its not working
[03:43] <cafuego> llama32: Did you compile your own kernel?
[03:43] <pl_ice> sik so ur hd is there :) now mount it , smomehow ...
[03:43] <llama32> sudo mount -o loop boot.img disk/
[03:43] <llama32> mount: could not find any device /dev/loop#
[03:44] <llama32> cafuego: nup
[03:44] <sik> pl_ice: lol... the somehow is the thing :D
[03:44] <cafuego> llama32: 'sudo modprobe loop'
[03:44] <pl_ice> sudo mount boot.imp /disk -o loop try this
[03:44] <sik> I knew it was there, I'd seen it already. just the working part isn't and I haven't been able to get it mounted yet :/
[03:44] <Shadyman> I'm stuck between two worlds.
[03:44] <llama32> cafuego: gave nothing
[03:44] <cafuego> llama32: that's good. Now try again.
[03:44] <Shadyman> Fedora and Ubuntu, back and forth. I have to admit, Ubuntu is alluring.
[03:45] <llama32> cafuego: ahh, thanks :)
[03:45] <pl_ice> sik u have to find which device is under ...
[03:45] <llama32> cafuego: how do i make i load automatically?
[03:45] <sik> pl_ice: it's labeled as sda, and I saw it in /dev
[03:45] <sik> but when I try mounting I'm getting the fstab and mtab error
[03:46] <cafuego> llama32: add it to /etc/modules
[03:46] <pl_ice> sik , i think i should have a number.. what it says when u try to mount it?
[03:46] <llama32> thanks cafuego
[03:47] <Unity> which metapackage will isntall libstdc++.so.5 for me?
[03:47] <sik> pl_ice: mount: can't find sda in etc/fstab or etc/mtab
[03:47] <jcsmith> ssstormy: any other ideas, everyhing i have found says the refresh rate is correct
[03:47] <Shadyman> So Kubuntu is just Ubuntu with the Kubuntu_desktop installed, right?
[03:47] <Shadyman> Or is there more than that.
[03:48] <tipnmo> i recently installled the ati drivers from the repositories... how can i check to see if i did it right
[03:48] <pl_ice> sik try this: sudo mount /dev/sda  /folder_dest
[03:48] <sik> pl_ice: mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[03:49] <Unity> pl_ice, sorry to butt in, but don't you need to specify the partition?
[03:49] <pl_ice> Unity should find it easily
[03:49] <pl_ice> ops ... i mean automatically
[03:50] <pl_ice> sik what partition is hd?
[03:50] <ssstormy> jcsmith, nope... you can look for other common values, incase you have a weird TV
[03:50] <sik> ummm...
[03:50] <ssstormy> also, check the physical connection
[03:50] <sik> there's only one partition on it that I know of
[03:50] <pl_ice> i mean the file system
[03:50] <sorush20> how do I load modules?
[03:51] <sorush20> what is the command for it?
[03:51] <root___> I'm attempting to reinstall grub through a gentoo livecd disk, i've already chrooted into the partition (root/boot are one), but when i run /sbin/grub-install /dev/hde it says it isn't a block device
[03:51] <pl_ice> modprobe module_name
[03:51] <llama32> when i try to unmount something, and it is busy, yet i have nothing using it, how do i unmount it?
[03:51] <sik> pl_ice: hda1 swap partition
[03:51] <sik> pl_ice: that's the filesystem
[03:51] <sethk> llama32, you have to find out why it is busy
[03:51] <pl_ice> llama32 umount -l try with root if it won't work
[03:51] <jdub> existance: best to not IRC as root - jump out and run your client again as your normal user
[03:51] <sethk> llama32, probably a shell has its current directory there
[03:52] <sik> pl_ice: or I think... hate being a newbie T_T
[03:52] <existance> jdub, heh, not sure how to do that from a livecd...
[03:52] <Wilf> http://www.simplyrender.com/Files/xorg will that xorg.conf work with my setup if i change the obvious settings?
[03:52] <llama32> sethk: nup, nothing is using it
[03:52] <pl_ice> sik  the external hard drive, is it ntfs or fat 32 etc..
[03:52] <sethk> llama32, the o/s disagrees.  In a case like this, it is almost always the human who is wrong
[03:52] <nitinshantharam> hey guys any help on mod_rewrite? i want to map http://somewhere.com/page/home to http://somewhere.com/index.php?t=page&q=home i currently have: RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} ^/page/(.*)  and   RewriteRule ^/page/(.*) index.php?t=page&q=$1
[03:52] <Unity> sethk, sometimes nautilus holds onto the mounted stuff
[03:52] <existance> I'm attempting to reinstall grub through a gentoo livecd disk, i've already chrooted into the partition (root/boot are one), but when i run /sbin/grub-install /dev/hde it says it isn't a block device
[03:52] <sethk> Unity, yes, that's actually a shell current directory
[03:53] <sethk> Unity, or perhaps just having the directory open, but a good suggestion either way
[03:53] <sik> pl_ice: I haven't done anything to it. I just got the enclosure today and put my hd in right out o f the box >.>
[03:53] <pl_ice> sik , then probably why it's not mountin it couse no file system is on it :)
[03:53] <sik> pl_ice: oh.... umm... how do I fix that? (stupid nub face)
[03:54] <Unity> sethk; i usually have success with `sudo killall nautilus` then `sudo umount blah` one sec later since nautilus bounces back
[03:54] <jcsmith> ssstormy: I've tried several values and 60 is the only one that X will even start with
[03:54] <pl_ice> sik , better read about it on the forum etc. u should use fdisk or so, read manual before!!!!
[03:54] <sethk> Unity, ok.  you an do this, to avoid having to type if fast:   sudo kill nautilus; sudo umount blah
[03:54] <durad_> how do I check IP via console?
[03:55] <sik> good point.. thanks!
[03:55] <sethk> Unity, on the same line, that is
[03:55] <sethk> durad_, ifconfig
[03:55] <Shadyman> durad_: ifconfig
[03:55] <sethk> durad_, if it isn't in the path, /sbin/ifconfig
[03:55] <mister_roboto> sethk: you might be able to find the process holding onto it using 'lsof'
[03:55] <ssstormy> jcsmith, what about the values output to the TV?
[03:55] <ara> i mounted my 2nd hard drive and it was working perfectly, i restarted ubuntu and it's not finding my hard again , do i have to mount it everytime i shut the pc down?
[03:55] <ssstormy> are they automatically the same as your monitor's refresh rate?
[03:55] <Danielle> hi, i'm brand new to LInux. kcontrol broke my system fonts, they look really bad now, i enabled  anti-anlising and subpixel hinting too with kcontrol, didn't like it so disabled it again, but the fonts didn't go back. is there a back up file of the old settings i can use. can someone help me? i use Ubuntu.
[03:55] <sethk> mister_roboto, yes, but I'm not the one asking, I was answering.  :)  let's see, who was asking?  llama32
[03:56] <pl_ice> ara yes, put that into /etc/fstab to auto mount it
[03:56] <mister_roboto> sethk: ahhh :)
[03:56] <ssstormy> Danielle, try completely removing the font packages
[03:56] <j2daosh> i got nothing... how am i supposed to install unreal from my iso file? its asking for the install cd which is probably too scratched to work and i dont know how to use the linux cd burner or even where to get one... assuming linux even recognizes my burner as a burner
[03:56] <Unity> sethk i know but i usually have the umount in the history anyway...ut thx
[03:56] <ssstormy> Danielle, and then reinstall them
[03:56] <Danielle> how do i do that?
[03:57] <ssstormy> well because you probably can't remove them well in X
[03:57] <Danielle> do you think i can uninstall kcontrol?
[03:57] <ara> pl_ice, i'm pretty new to linux , can you tell me how?
[03:57] <ssstormy> Danielle, that probably won't help
[03:57] <pl_ice> !iso
[03:57] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, iso is download Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ and for help burning the CD, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[03:57] <Madpilot> j2daosh: burning ISOs is easy - find them in your file manager, right-click on them, and select "Burn To Disc" - done
[03:57] <Danielle> oh :(
[03:57] <durad__> thanks
[03:57] <slide> Ok, so does anyone know of a LVM howto? I want to combine 2 drives into 1
[03:57] <ssstormy> do a ctl+alt+F2, and log in
[03:58] <ssstormy> then do ps ax
[03:58] <ssstormy> and kill everything to do with X
[03:58] <pl_ice> ara try ubuntuforums.org heaps of it there, and man fstab, i got to go :)
[03:58] <mister_roboto> slide: google for "lvm howto" shows lots of stuff, oddly enough!
[03:58] <ssstormy> with kill _procces-id_
[03:58] <Danielle> how do i uninstall my font packages? i just spent 2/3 days getting the fonts right for Opera so i don't want to break that too
[03:58] <j2daosh> ok if i burn an iso to dvd so i dont have to waste 6 cd's on unreal... will it still recognize it?
[03:58] <ssstormy> (use shift+pageup/down to scrooll)
[03:58] <DigitalSig> can someones pls tell me how i can install a .rpm package
[03:58] <snowowl> Danielle there is a good HowTo in the Ubuntu Documentation on installing some the Microsoft Font package - Perhaps you could give that a look see too.
[03:58] <ssstormy> Danielle, ooh yikes
[03:58] <ssstormy> well
[03:59] <j2daosh> or is there no way around burning the 6 dics
[03:59] <ssstormy> you use apt-get or dpkg to remove packages
[03:59] <skon> How do I install a new theme I just downloaded?
[03:59] <pglee> digitalsig: convert it to a .deb file with the alien package
[03:59] <slide> misfit_toy, actually, NOT.... most are way outdated (years old), or in other languages, or simply suck. ty, come again.
[03:59] <ilba7r> digitalsig you will most probably find a deb file for your package but alien is what you are looking for
[03:59] <pl_ice> DigitalSig dpkg -i package
[03:59] <Shadyman> j2daosh: You've got 6 ISO files, right?
[03:59] <Madpilot> Danielle: you're running Gnome?
[03:59] <Epix> Danielle: man apt-get
[04:00] <j2daosh> no... i combined them into one big 3.6 gig file
[04:00] <Shadyman> j2daosh: Oh.
[04:00] <j2daosh> easier to manage when im backing everything up to external harddrive
[04:00] <mister_roboto> slide: ummm... u don't have to be an asshole when someone just trying to help
[04:00] <Madpilot> Danielle: assuming you are, go System menu --> Prefs --> Font and pick different system fonts for Gnome (or reset them, either way...)
[04:00] <pglee> is it bad to get a bunch of "differ in signedness" warnings in a 2.6.10 kernel compile?
[04:00] <j2daosh> when i unarchive it it is back in 6 disc form
[04:00] <Danielle> i did a whole thread of 14 posts with just me in it. :D i already have the MS fonts installed should uninstall EVERY font then reinstall? yes gnome i'll have a look at apt get too but i know how to uninstall i'm just not sure what to uninstall
[04:00] <Epix> Danielle: or, if you are using Ubuntu (not Kubutu), try the Synaptic package manager. Find it on one of the menus on your desktop
[04:01] <Danielle> MS fonts
[04:01] <j2daosh> why?
[04:01] <Danielle> i'm using Ubuntu ;)
[04:01] <ssstormy> Epix, one problem
[04:01] <ilba7r> danielle msttcorefonts is the package you are looking for
[04:01] <slide> misfit_toy, look in the mirror please, the 'oddly enough' was rude imo
[04:01] <mister_roboto> slide: it's pretty obvious you didn't even try to search though because there is a LOT of info on LVM findable on google, in modern wikis
[04:01] <ssstormy> would it get screwed because the fonts are being removed
[04:01] <Danielle> OK thanks i'll do it now.
[04:01] <ssstormy> ?
[04:01] <Epix> ssstormy: yeus?
[04:02] <j2daosh> shady... what was your idea concerning the 6 discs?
[04:02] <guest_> Is there a way to recover from a "sudo rm -r /*" without reinstalling?
[04:02] <HrdwrBoB> hahahaha
[04:02] <HrdwrBoB> ... yes
[04:02] <lucasd> is there any chance to provide beep-media-player-X at ubuntu repositories?
[04:02] <HrdwrBoB> .. restore from backup
[04:02] <HrdwrBoB> oh, you don't have a backup?
[04:02] <ssstormy> guest_, no because you just deleted the whole freaking system
[04:02] <R0bNyc> how can 1 get the latest kernel while using breezy
[04:03] <ara> can someone tell me how can i put a command into /etc/fstab please?
[04:03] <dvtool> How to I get admin rights in terminal?
[04:03] <y_o_u> hi, hope everyone is well. need help please. i am trying to install a Belkin 7000 wireless PCI card onto kubuntu. after installing ndiswrapper and walking through the wiki guide install, i run into an error with it detecting the driver and device (even though I am using the exact same card and driver used in the howto). i am stumped, need some help. please dont make me grovel.
[04:03] <ssstormy> R0bNyc, add the universe and multiverse in synaptic
[04:03] <HrdwrBoB> !suso
[04:03] <ubotu> HrdwrBoB: Are you smoking crack?
[04:03] <HrdwrBoB> !sudo
[04:03] <ssstormy> and just search kernel
[04:03] <HrdwrBoB> !tell dvtool about sudo
[04:03] <j2daosh> ara sudo
[04:03] <j2daosh> dvtool i mean
[04:03] <Danielle> before i uninstall the fonts i just want to say that it's not internet -Opera probelms i have but desktop problems. so the uninstall Install MS fonts should fix that?
[04:03] <R0bNyc> ssstormy, im on breezy and the universe and multiverse is added
[04:03] <guest_> ssstormy: I cntrl-c it while it was doin /dev, so I have everything alphabetically from dev down, including my /home
[04:03] <j2daosh> ara sudo vi /etc/fstab
[04:04] <ssstormy> R0bNyc, just search for kernel
[04:04] <j2daosh> then type your params
[04:04] <ara> j2daosh, that's the complete command?
[04:04] <ssstormy> guest_, well lesse
[04:04] <Madpilot> Danielle: maybe - you shouldn't even need the MS fonts to get good display fonts in Ubuntu...
[04:04] <ssstormy> you need /boot /bin and /debbootstrap
[04:04] <j2daosh> ara, yes..it will load fstab into vi and you can manually edit the fstab
[04:05] <dvtool> thanks!!!!!!
[04:05] <Danielle> the probelm was i use kcontrol to enable subpixel hinting and anti-anlising but it looked really pixelated so i deisable it but it stayed the same
[04:05] <ssstormy> guest_, reinstalling oyur kernel package, and reinstlaling the boot manager will fix /boot
[04:05] <y_o_u> anyone, help with a wireless card driver, please?
[04:05] <ssstormy> but you have to do a mkdir /boot
[04:05] <lucasd> can somebody tell if there's any plans to provide beep-media-player-X at ubuntu repositories?
[04:05] <dvtool> can anybody check what is default CHMOD for Samba folder? (/etc/Samba)  ????
[04:05] <lleberg> Ha, after lots of trouble, i have got ubunti going :P
[04:05] <Danielle> that's ONLY for the desktop NOT internet
[04:05] <ssstormy> guest_, and for /bin you should reinstall all the core packages
[04:06] <R0bNyc> ssstormy, i dont see it =\
[04:06] <ssstormy> guest_, you might as well login as root
[04:06] <ssstormy> R0bNyc, one sec
[04:06] <SpaceBass> evening
[04:07] <snowowl> Danielle you still there -- If you are - I just did a little research on you problem and appearently the fix ( as I read from some threads) was reinstalling Kdebase3
[04:07] <Shadyman> ubotu: tell guest_ about sudoroot
[04:07] <guest_> ssstormy: I might as well do complete reinstall, aren't all my custom installed packages gone now?
[04:07] <Shadyman> ubotu: tell guest_ about rootsudo
[04:07] <smo> daft question, where's pastebin? (ie, URL?)
[04:07] <Shadyman> !pastebin
[04:07] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:07] <smo> Thanks
[04:07] <Shadyman> :)
[04:08] <SpaceBass> I set-up a dual boot system then blew away the ubuntu drive in Windows... now I get a grub error -17... to be fair I'm considerably more proficient in windows, but I've tried everything I know (recovery console- fixboot, fixmbr)... I cannot remember if I installed grub in the MBR or the first sector... anyone have hints?
[04:08] <Shadyman> I love Ubotu. He's so helpful.
[04:08] <ssstormy> guest_, nope
[04:08] <y_o_u> anyone here, help with a wireless PCI card driver problem? *getting on my knees* please...
[04:08] <ssstormy> guest_, you didn't loose /home or /usr
[04:08] <Danielle> snowowl: i'm here. sorry but you did see it's only for the desktop and not the internet
[04:08] <kalin> could anybody tell me if it's posible playing gunbound over linux?
[04:08] <sklav> SpaceBass, u trying to recover windows?
[04:08] <ssstormy> guest_, unless it didn't go alphabetical
[04:08] <Shadyman> ubotu: tell y_o_u about ndiswrapper
[04:08] <SpaceBass> sklav:  desperatly
[04:09] <Shadyman> y_o_u: What's the problem?
[04:09] <lucasd> can somebody tell if there's any plans to provide beep-media-player-X at ubuntu repositories?
[04:09] <sklav> u positive you did not destroy the windows partition?
[04:09] <SpaceBass> sklav:  I broke down and bought a 2nd box to run ubuntu on, so I didn;t need to dual boot anymore
[04:09] <ssstormy> guest_, home usr etc     those are the 3 most important for customization/config
[04:09] <SpaceBass> sklav: 100% sure the windows parititon is still there
[04:09] <sklav> when using recovery console in windows from the cd
[04:09] <guest_> ssstormy: youre right, I still have those
[04:09] <smo> guest_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6294   That's what packages populate my /bin (on breezy).  Given that, a linux-image-* package, reconstruction of your menu.lst for grub, and grub-install .. you may save your hide
[04:09] <guest_> yeah, still have those
[04:09] <sklav> it asks you to select your windows installation
[04:09] <sklav> then to login
[04:09] <sklav> did you get that far?
[04:10] <SpaceBass> sklav: yeah... thats what I used, can get to the c:\ prompt
[04:10] <pglee> somebody: should i use gcc 3.4 or gcc 4 to build a 2.6 kernel?
[04:10] <kalin> =(
[04:10] <kalin> =(
[04:10] <sklav> ok
[04:10] <kalin> =(
[04:10] <Danielle> Kdebase3 not in synaptic :( you don't think i should try and uninstall kcontrol then reboot. where can i get Kdebase3? is there a KDE place i can go to?
[04:10] <kalin> =(
[04:10] <sklav> type FIXMBR
[04:10] <Shadyman> !spam
[04:10] <ubotu> Shadyman: Do they come in packets of five?
[04:10] <guest_> smo: actually /etc is gone
[04:10] <lucasd> can somebody tell me if there's any plans to provide beep-media-player-X at ubuntu repositories?
[04:10] <Shadyman> ubotu: Yes.
[04:10] <ubotu> Yes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thunk it, eh, shadyman?
[04:10] <kalin> jeje
[04:10] <kalin> oops
[04:10] <SpaceBass> sklav:  and I can run bootcfg /scan  and it finds the windows install
[04:10] <ssstormy> SpaceBass, what happens if you dir in c:\?
[04:10] <Shadyman> !enter
[04:10] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[04:10] <kalin> no clam down
[04:10] <SpaceBass> sklav: yeah I ran fixmbr and fixboot ... several times... no dice
[04:10] <y_o_u> shady: i installed ndiswrapper, seemed ok. then installed the drivers like the howto said. seems fine. when i check to see what is installed, it tells me that there is an invalid driver. when i try to uninstall driver, says it is not installed. when i try to reinstall, it says that it is already installed. going around in circles, just not sure where to look next
[04:11] <sklav> hum
[04:11] <snowowl> Dan - In synaptic its called kdebase
[04:11] <sethk> y_o_u, try installing with force.  That will install it even if it believes it to be already installed
[04:11] <kalin> is there anybody free to help me?
[04:11] <ssstormy> SpaceBass, does the computer just not boot after fixboot / fixmbr, or does grub still show up?
[04:11] <kalin> =(
[04:11] <Shadyman> kalin: What's wrong, is the smiley button broken?
[04:11] <SpaceBass> sklav:  now that being said... the drive is on a 3rd party ATA controller and I don't have the floppy with the drivers... so I pulled the drive and threw it in a USB inclosure... not sure if that would matter
[04:11] <kalin> jehehe
[04:11] <SpaceBass> ssstormy:  i get a -17 when grub loads
[04:11] <kalin> sorry man
[04:11] <Shadyman> ;)
[04:12] <dvtool> !tell dvtool about samba
[04:12] <smo> guest_: Then (imho) you probably want to save /home somewhere (and maybe /var if you use mysql & such), and start again
[04:12] <y_o_u> sethk, what command installs with force?
[04:12] <ssstormy> where is your windows partition?
[04:12] <mark_> dabaR,  u still here?
[04:12] <kalin> i want to play gunbound over linux
[04:12] <ssstormy> hda1,2,3,4?
[04:12] <sethk> y_o_u, you can do it with dpkg.  I think also with apt-get
[04:12] <DigitalSig> ok, i got another problem, ive forgotten my su password, infact i dont remeber ever putting one in.. is there any way i can find out what it would be?
[04:12] <Shadyman> kalin: You'd have to check the gunbound site, then.
[04:12] <SpaceBass> ssstormy:  hda1
[04:12] <Shadyman> kalin: Otherwise, try installing Wine.
[04:12] <kalin> wine??
[04:12] <ssstormy> find someone with windows instlaled on hda1
[04:12] <Madpilot> DigitalSig: use sudo, not su, and your own user pw
[04:12] <kalin> where can i find it?
[04:12] <Shadyman> ubotu: tell kalin about wine
[04:12] <SpaceBass> btw-  I realize the hypocracy of coming here for help recovering windows... and I appericate it
[04:12] <DigitalSig> ahh thanks madpilot
[04:12] <Madpilot> !tell DigitalSig about sudo
[04:13] <y_o_u> thanks, i will try now...
[04:13] <SpaceBass> ssstormy:  why would that help?
[04:13] <ssstormy> get them to do a dd if=/dev/hda1 bs=512 count=1 of=./winxp_mbr
[04:13] <SpaceBass> ssstormy:  ahhh gotcha
[04:13] <ssstormy> then try using linux to dd if=./winxp_mbr of=/dev/hda
[04:13] <ssstormy> oh oops
[04:13] <ssstormy> on command #1
[04:13] <ssstormy> dd if=/dev/hda
[04:13] <ssstormy> not hda1
[04:14] <snowowl> SpaceBass it not Hypocracy but called common sense - long live linux
[04:14] <dvtool> how do I ask Ubotu to tell me about Samba?
[04:14] <cafuego> ssstormy: Why not just use the mbr package?
[04:14] <Danielle> if i have Kdebase3 on my system and i search in Places>Search for files ...File System shoudl it be found?
[04:14] <DigitalSig> madpilot, im asked to insert switches for the sudo command :/
[04:14] <SpaceBass> ssstormy:  I have my new ubuntu box I can use for that... and a spare HD... I guess I could pull the ubuntu HD and then load XP then do the dd
[04:14] <ssstormy> cafuego, as best I know that ocmputer dosn't even have linux isntalled
[04:14] <cafuego> 'ms-sys' even.
[04:14] <DigitalSig> i need to get root priveldges
[04:14] <cafuego> ssstormy: Then 'dd' won't work either.
[04:14] <sklav> SpaceBass, you did fixboot c:
[04:15] <SpaceBass> ssstormy:  correct, the box in question 'lost' its linux partitions (and by lost I mean I wiped them)
[04:15] <ssstormy> cafuego, oh yes it will- from a boot disk, or the ubuntu install disk
[04:15] <Epix> is there a nice easy visual grub config tool in ubuntu?
[04:15] <cafuego> ssstormy: The livecd happily runs ms-sys too.
[04:15] <Madpilot> DigitalSig: read the URL the bot sent you - basically, stick "sudo" in front of the commands you want to use - "sudo mv foo /var/www/foo" etc
[04:15] <guest_> so smo and ssstormy , looks like a complete reinstall right?  luckily my /home is on another partition
[04:15] <sklav> you must specify the drive
[04:15] <SpaceBass> sklav well.... I did fixboot, I didn't specify the drive... and if its that simple I'm going to kick my self in the nuts
[04:15] <sklav> u must specify the drive
[04:15] <Madpilot> DigitalSig: also, "man sudo"
[04:15] <ssstormy> cafuego, my point is it has no linux so he needs a boot media, and can't install mbr package (or can he?)
[04:16] <SpaceBass> sklav: I mean... I'd never run fidisk with out the drive or mount with out the dev ... not sure why I'd be that dumb
[04:16] <sklav> SpaceBass, try both commands again but make sure you specify the drive for fixboot and fixmbr
[04:16] <psusi> if you are trying to remove grub, you want fixmbr, not fixboot
[04:16] <ssstormy> guest_, it depends on how bad you want to keep your old install
[04:16] <sklav> fixmbr c:
[04:16] <cafuego> ssstormy: If he's a got a livecd he can.
[04:16] <sklav> and fixboot c:
[04:16] <ssstormy> guest_, /bin is pretty easily replaced; not touched often
[04:16] <h4x> whats a good C++ compiler for ubuntu?
[04:16] <SpaceBass> sklav: thanks
[04:16] <sklav> np
[04:16] <cafuego> h4x: gcc
[04:16] <Epix> as in, I want to add a windows partition to the grub menu. can i easly do it?
[04:16] <h4x> is that in the repository?
[04:16] <ssstormy> cafuego, you can instlal packages on a RAMdisk ubuntu?
[04:16] <SpaceBass> I did think about a live CD (knoppix or ubuntu)... but was trying to keep it simple first
[04:16] <cafuego> ssstormy: Yep
[04:16] <guest_> ssstormy: what about /etc ?
[04:17] <h4x> thank you: cafuego
[04:17] <ssstormy> Epix, i can't help with grub, but lilo i know
[04:17] <j2daosh> holy crap... i got the fake boot of an iso figured out finally... well i wont be forgetting how to do that anytime soon
[04:17] <j2daosh> thanks for all your help guys
[04:17] <ssstormy> guest_, you lost that?  that's bad.. you'll ahve to reinstall most of your packages
[04:17] <j2daosh> gimme afew hours and ill be back in here with another noob question
[04:17] <sklav> SpaceBass, any luck?
[04:17] <Epix> anyone know grub?
[04:17] <sklav> j2daosh, awesome then one day u might answer my noob questions
[04:17] <sklav> hehe
[04:17] <SpaceBass> sklav & ssstormy ... thanks! I'm going to try fixmbr and fixboot with the drive specified (and smack myself), if that doesnt work, I'll copy the ./xp_mbr from a working drive
[04:17] <j2daosh> lol skla
[04:18] <psusi> ssstormy, you should try grub... I was used to lilo from way back in the day too... but finally tried grub, it it wtfpwn's lilo
[04:18] <j2daosh> well what questions do you have?
[04:18] <SpaceBass> sklav:  I'm in front of the TV right now... left my office when I got uber fustrated... going to go try again now
[04:18] <Epix> j2daosh: newb questions are the best. they are the easiest to answer! thats my speciality.
[04:18] <sklav> ok
[04:18] <ssstormy> psusi, well grub is awsome, but i need lilo
[04:18] <j2daosh> lol epix
[04:18] <psusi> ssstormy, what for?
[04:18] <ssstormy> I screw over my system so often
[04:18] <ssstormy> i need to ahve control over it all the way
[04:18] <sklav> SpaceBass, if in question use the map option to figure out what name windows wants
[04:19] <psusi> that's why I love grub... you screw up lilo.conf, and it's insert boot disk time... screw up menu.lst, and you can manually command grub how to boot correctly
[04:19] <Epix> ssstormy: liveCD's are god.
[04:19] <ssstormy> grub just didn't cut it once the problems started rolling in
[04:19] <sklav> just in case ;)
[04:19] <rick> hi+
[04:19] <rick> hello there
[04:19] <sklav> ssstormy, grub is awesome after you figure out some of it cool options
[04:19] <sklav> editing on the fly has saved me 100+ times
[04:19] <WorstPhobia> What's a good Linux backup program? Someone told me of one earlier but I forgot...
[04:19] <ssstormy> psusi, nah, most importantly I don't know all the syntax etc, while I do understand lilo's inner workings
[04:19] <j2daosh> ok... quick question before i head out... what can windows do that linux cant?
[04:19] <rick> gf
[04:19] <ssstormy> WorstPhobia, dd
[04:20] <SpaceBass> I got a nice new g5 mac for my b-day yesterday and was in the process of changing some disk stuff in prep for migrating from XP on the desktop to os x ... and badda boom I wiped my ubuntu partition... thats how it all started
[04:20] <rick> does someone speak spanish?
[04:20] <sklav> ssstormy, very simlar to lilo
[04:20] <guest_> ok, thx ssstormy , this is sad, was about to backup root today
[04:20] <Madpilot> j2daosh: catch viruses :P
[04:20] <ssstormy> WorstPhobia, dd if=/dev/hda of=./disk_backup
[04:20] <WorstPhobia> j2daosh: Offer free stuff
[04:20] <rick> SOMEONE?
[04:20] <Epix> psusi: do you remember offhand the commands to do a windows boot?
[04:20] <sklav> join #ubuntu-es
[04:20] <psusi> ssstormy, I have the exact reverse experience... when I first tried grub I got the kernel options wrong and the system wouldn't boot... but I could manually tell grub the correct way to boot and didn't need a boot disk...  2) You're being rude.
[04:21] <NeoNmaN> hallo i need help...
[04:21] <j2daosh> ok so windows can play games....thats all it has on linux?
[04:21] <rick> how old are u?
[04:21] <Epix> even though its crappy, capslocked english
[04:21] <ssstormy> WorstPhobia, it will make a perfect copy of your drive
[04:21] <rick> u look some old guy
[04:21] <cafuego> rick: About twice your age,I would guess.
[04:21] <cbb> hey.. does anyone know if ubuntu will pick up an Atheros AR5001X+ wireless adapter?
[04:21] <Epix> j2daosh: well, windows costs more.
[04:21] <psusi> ssstormy, yea... I did the same thing... when I installed ubuntu I had no idea how to use grub, so I just went with lilo.. ended up having to patch the lilo sources and come up with a VERY interesting lilo.conf using the use-bios-codes and disk= parameters to get my system to boot
[04:21] <sklav> !tell rick about ubuntu spanish
[04:21] <rick> i am 20
[04:21] <SpaceBass> j2daosh:  and arguably (I'm going to get flamed) itunes and outlook
[04:22] <ssstormy> j2daosh, it has a few things
[04:22] <j2daosh> hey rick... the question is how old are you? if you want help knock it off... if not... get out and go somewhere were your type of attitude is welcome
[04:22] <ssstormy> wide use
[04:22] <cafuego> rick: Then act like it.
[04:22] <ssstormy> apps
[04:22] <rick> o.k slklav
[04:22] <ssstormy> like iTunes
[04:22] <psusi> ssstormy, then I spent a few hours reading about how grub works, and gave it a shot... worked fine
[04:22] <pl_ice> rick go off topic to chit chat
[04:22] <ssstormy> not to say gtkpod is bad
[04:22] <NeoNmaN> why is my CPU load 100% when i move xwindow around on my screen..... i think its is gfx problem bot im not sure
[04:22] <ssstormy> but if you need iTunes you're dead
[04:22] <sklav> !tell rick about #ubuntu-es
[04:22] <j2daosh> outlook sucks... itunes... lol i got my cd's
[04:22] <rick> I WANNA BE A SUPERMAN
[04:22] <SpaceBass> ssstormy:  yep!
[04:22] <cafuego> ssstormy: iTunes runs fine in cxoffice.
[04:22] <psusi> ssstormy, once I learned to use it, getting it to work on my weird system was much easier than lilo
[04:22] <rick> I WANNA BE A RONEY STAR
[04:22] <rick> LALALALA LAALLALA
[04:22] <cafuego> !ops
[04:22] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[04:22] <Epix> j2daosh: so if you like spending lots of cash windows is a good option. I mean once you got the OS, you get sucked into buying the antivirus stuff and anti-spyware etc...
[04:22] <ssstormy> psusi, well I'm lazy... I liked the live edit, but lilo's working and I haven't killed it again yet
[04:22] <Kyral> rick STFU
[04:22] <Madpilot> sklav: try just !es
[04:22] <rick> U STUPIDS GUYS
[04:22] <SpaceBass> cafuego:  not 6.1 (or does it?)
[04:22] <llama32> SpaceBase: outlook is shit, as buggy as ie
[04:22] <sklav> ok
[04:22] <cafuego> rick: bye
[04:22] <sklav> hehe
[04:22] <ssstormy> cafuego, do you have to pay for cxoffice/
[04:23] <sklav> !es
[04:23] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:23] <sklav> nice
[04:23] <j2daosh> lol epix... i dont buy windows or the software to go with it
[04:23] <GTroy> !sources.list
[04:23] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:23] <cafuego> ssstormy: Costs a lot les than windows xp.
[04:23] <SEJeff> psusi, grub is great once you get used to it
[04:23] <tonyyarusso> SpaceBass, j2daosh, ssstormy: SharpMusique works for iTunes on Linux.
[04:23] <SpaceBass> outlook is great and gets a bad rap... and it works better with exchange than anything else
[04:23] <Epix> rick: good night.
[04:23] <cbb>  does anyone know if ubuntu will pick up an Atheros AR5001X+ wireless adapter?
[04:23] <cafuego> nalioth: cheers
[04:23] <ssstormy> Epix actually you learn how to get free protection
[04:23] <SEJeff> psusi, And grub 2 supports scripting believe it or not
[04:23] <ssstormy> like I always said
[04:23] <psusi> ssstormy, hehe... yea... sometime when you're bored though, take a few to read the grub manual... and when you're really board, give it a try...
[04:23] <ssstormy> you don't get protection on the internet
[04:23] <ssstormy> you make your own
[04:23] <SpaceBass> tonyyarusso:  but will it play music store DRM songs
[04:23] <Epix> ssstormy: :P , pratice safe computing.
[04:23] <j2daosh> i dont like outlook... takes too much memory and now you cant even send an executable
[04:23] <ssstormy> psusi, will do
[04:23] <cafuego> cbb: Atheros cards should be picked up automagically.
[04:23] <psusi> SEJeff, yea... once I figured out how to use it, it kicks ass
[04:23] <j2daosh> not without renaming it to something outlook doesn't know first
[04:24] <dvtool> How to restart Samba from terminal?
[04:24] <ssstormy> cafuego, I haven't paid a dime yet for any of my software
[04:24] <cbb> .
[04:24] <SpaceBass> j2daosh:  you can send an .exe thats totally configurable
[04:24] <tonyyarusso> SpaceBass, I think so.  Haven't tried it out much.
[04:24] <sklav> SpaceBass, Outlook is a bit of a memory hog
[04:24] <cbb>  does anyone know if ubuntu will pick up an Atheros AR5001X+ wireless adapter?
[04:24] <sklav> im an admin at work
[04:24] <SpaceBass> sklav:  true that!
[04:24] <j2daosh> SpaceBass, not in 2003
[04:24] <sklav> for the exchange server
[04:24] <ssstormy> j2daosh, that's another
[04:24] <cafuego> ssstormy: If you bought a Pod you did ;-)
[04:24] <sklav> i hate it
[04:24] <ssstormy> drivesr
[04:24] <ssstormy> *drivers
[04:24] <sklav> MS figured a transactionign systems was needed for email
[04:24] <pl_ice> this : /etc/init.d/samba restart
[04:24] <ssstormy> companies always make drivers for windows first
[04:24] <SpaceBass> outlook is a memory pig... I agree... but for something to work with exchange (including calendar, etc) it works well (as designed, I guess)
[04:24] <j2daosh> they made outlook that way because of the melissa virus
[04:24] <cbb> 587 people in here and no one can answer one question
[04:24] <ssstormy> linux communtiy will take a little while to write one
[04:24] <sklav> yes it does work
[04:25] <sklav> im not sure about the well par t;)
[04:25] <j2daosh> cbb... all i saw was a .
[04:25] <sklav> im not sure about the well part ;)
[04:25] <cafuego> cbb: I answered it already.
[04:25] <ssstormy> cafuego, well I didn't buy it for the software- heck, I installed ipod-linux on it XP
[04:25] <j2daosh> and cafe already got you
[04:25] <SpaceBass> I've tried evolution and mail.app (os x), etc... but I prefer the hog
[04:25] <sklav> ipod-linux?
[04:25] <sklav> hum
[04:25] <ssstormy> sklav, oh yeah
[04:25] <psusi> SEJeff, I love how it understands the filesystem so you don't have to reinstall the MBR to update the sector maps of your kernel when you change it
[04:25] <cafuego> ssstormy: You paid the license fee for the mp3 codec when you paid for the pod, though.
[04:25] <cbb> cafuego: sorry, didn't see that. but if it picks up my card, is there software to pick up access points?
[04:25] <ssstormy> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Main_Page
[04:25] <SpaceBass> I dont get apple's reluctance to release itunes of linux... but thats another issue
[04:25] <dvtool> I Use Opera email
[04:26] <evanbro_> are there any official 80x15 images for linking to ubuntu?
[04:26] <evanbro_> (or unofficial)
[04:26] <ssstormy> cafuego, ah but see the hd came blank...
[04:26] <cafuego> cbb: There should be, I've never used an atheros based card so I don't know if stuff like kismet works with them.
[04:26] <ssstormy> not really! :)
[04:26] <sklav> itunes for linux would rock but figure with OS X being relased on i386 platform this year
[04:26] <Epix> ssstormy: is iPL any good, i havent looked at it for a long while
[04:26] <sklav> it will be ported at some point
[04:26] <ssstormy> Epix, it's gotten much much better
[04:27] <cbb> cafuego: okay, thanks man
[04:27] <pl_ice> evanbro_ i think so, found them yesterday...
[04:27] <Epix> ssstormy: second gen mini support yet?
[04:27] <SpaceBass> sklav:  yeah, I suspect the x86 port of os x will help a lot in that regard
[04:27] <ssstormy> cafuego, I guess you got me there
[04:27] <ssstormy> that makes 1x in my life
[04:27] <ssstormy> Epix, yup
[04:27] <ara> trying to hook my second hard and it says " unknown filesystem type '/dev/hdb1'" what am i missing in the command?
[04:27] <ssstormy> support for all but the newest 2
[04:27] <SpaceBass> maybe then I can get off Active Directory and windows for good
[04:28] <ssstormy> although they are already running linux kernels on the little one
[04:28] <robitaille> evanbro_,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebsiteButtons
[04:28] <cafuego> SpaceBass: Last I heard samba and ldap already did that nonsense.
[04:28] <SpaceBass> anway- thaks again ssstormy  and sklav  ... I'm going to go try specifying the drive and see if I cannot clear my grub issue
[04:28] <evanbro_> robitaille: thanks much
[04:28] <SpaceBass> cafuego: true... I tend to sell things like openldap short
[04:28] <ssstormy> SpaceBass, hope it helps
[04:29] <WorstPhobia> What's a good application for sticky notes?
[04:29] <cafuego> SpaceBass: ANything not fedora has to be good.
[04:29] <SpaceBass> centos :) ?
[04:29] <cafuego> WorstPhobia: right click the panel, choose add to panel..., choose sticky notes.
[04:30] <sklav> been using rpm distros for years
[04:30] <mcscruff> does anyone know what package provides libacl
[04:30] <sklav> i kinda like the deb system
[04:30] <sklav> call me lazy
[04:30] <pl_ice> lazy :)
[04:30] <sklav> hehe
[04:30] <cafuego> sklav: /nick lazy
[04:30] <sklav> yup lazy
[04:31] <robitaille> mcscruff,  libacl1
[04:31] <Madpilot> WorstPhobia: try Tomboy
[04:31] <cafuego> if you were truly lazy you wouldn't have done that
[04:31] <robitaille> mcscruff, ,  http://packages.ubuntu.com is great for finding things like that
[04:31] <cafuego> hmm
[04:31] <sklav> oh well not lazy enough i guess
[04:31] <tipnmo> would someone be willing to help me with an apparent ati driver issue
[04:32] <tipnmo> i am very new to ubuntu and i cant figure out what i am doing wrong
[04:32] <kris> whois s
[04:32] <tipnmo> i followed a guide on the ubuntu forums but when running the cedega system test i fail 3d accl
[04:32] <pl_ice> ara u said that u mounted the hardrive once manualy, can u please give it here, i'll change it so it fits fstab
[04:32] <renato> \j #ubuntu-br
[04:32] <sklav> tipnmo, does ati like nvidia have ati-glx-config enable option?
[04:33] <sklav> im guessing mind you
[04:33] <WorstPhobia> Thanks Madpilot
[04:33] <tipnmo> i have no idea
[04:33] <renato> \j #ubuntu-br
[04:33] <ara> pl_ice , i'm trying to use the same command but it wont work, i guess i forgot the command
[04:33] <tipnmo> sklav, i have no clue.. this is my first install with a linux distro
[04:34] <DigitalSig> thank u all for your help.
[04:34] <sklav> tipnmo, check out this site
[04:34] <pl_ice> ara, give me the filesystem of hd and which hard drive it is, where u want to mount it
[04:34] <sklav> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATIOnBreezyOpenGLFix?highlight=%28ati%29
[04:34] <pl_ice> sklav any good chicks on it? :>
[04:34] <brother_of_jared> Greets...
[04:35] <sklav> pay attention to the version
[04:35] <chance2105_> Aight.  My ubuntu install ended up somehow not having an admin group, and my user didn't get added to it.  I tried adding the admin group, and then adding my regular user to it, with no luck.  Is this fixable?
[04:35] <ara> pl_ice , /dev/hdb1 mount to /home/ara/mymedia
[04:35] <sklav> as for chicks pl_ice i think 1 wrote it
[04:35] <sklav> hehe
[04:35] <pl_ice> ara and is it ntfs or fat32 or ext3 etc ?
[04:35] <brother_of_jared> I could use some help on setting up mysql-server... specifically the part that talks about configuring the "localhost.localdomain" any one up for it?
[04:35] <ara> ntfs
[04:35] <sklav> pl_ice, use the auto option
[04:35] <ara> pl_ice ntfs
[04:36] <pl_ice> ok
[04:36] <Toma-> chance2105_: have you tried using System > Admin > Users and Groups, then adding the group there?
[04:36] <tonyyarusso> Can anyone help me recover console switching?  I can't do it anymore.
[04:37] <pl_ice> ara  try in console first: sudo mount /dev/hdb1 -t ntfs /home/ara/mymedia
[04:37] <sklav> tonyyarusso, edit the /etc/inittab and change runlevel from 5 to 3
[04:37] <sklav> that will fix it
[04:37] <MrPPV> Error 16: Inconsistent filesystem structure
[04:37] <brother_of_jared> Any takers on that one about configuring PostFix?
[04:37] <MrPPV> how can i resolve this error?
[04:37] <tonyyarusso> sklav, What does that do?  (So I can understand for later.)
[04:37] <sklav> its allows fro multiple terminals
[04:37] <MrPPV> it appers when i try to start the computer
[04:37] <MrPPV> :X
[04:38] <sklav> while runlevel 5 doesnt
[04:38] <sklav> its in the docs
[04:38] <sklav> i read it last time
[04:38] <ara> pl_ice ok it worked
[04:38] <sklav> that is what im doing
[04:38] <GTroy> man what a pain it is if you don't have 3rd party support for your repos!
[04:38] <brother_of_jared> <--- needs a hand on this please...
[04:38] <sarooo> necesito ayuda
[04:38] <tonyyarusso> sklav, So probably something changed to file from 3 before to 5?
[04:38] <MrPPV> somebody?
[04:38] <tonyyarusso> sklav, And do I need to reboot or something for that to take effect?
[04:38] <MrPPV> :(
[04:38] <sklav> ino reboot needed
[04:39] <sklav> just run init 3
[04:39] <sklav> on command line
[04:39] <sklav> and it will be done
[04:39] <pl_ice> ara edit /etc/fstab and put :  /dev/hdb1       /home/ara/mymdeia          ntfs    ro,user,nosuid  0        0
[04:39] <pl_ice> i assume that mymedia is empty folder, ready to mount ...
[04:39] <sklav> sudo init 3
[04:39] <sklav> to be exact
[04:39] <ara> pl_ice let me try
[04:39] <brother_of_jared> anyone?
[04:40] <sklav> brother_of_jared, what is the postfix issue?
[04:40] <brother_of_jared> I am doing my first install
[04:40] <pl_ice> sklav i though u're lazy ;)
[04:40] <sklav> lol
[04:40] <sklav> so did i
[04:40] <sklav> its quite amazing
[04:40] <brother_of_jared> not certain what I put for the localhost.localdomain
[04:40] <sklav> honestly
[04:40] <WorstPhobia> Madpilot, do you know of any apps that are more like Post-it note apps?
[04:40] <pl_ice> lol
[04:40] <sklav> brother_of_jared, put your computer name or domain name that u want example mail.brotherorjared.com
[04:41] <tonyyarusso> sklav, Is the line id:#:initdefault: what you're referring to?
[04:41] <sklav> yes tonyyarusso
[04:41] <tonyyarusso> sklav, Mine says 2 right now, not 5.
[04:41] <brother_of_jared> I guess my first question to answer is the overall config.. like internet site or internet with smarthost
[04:41] <sarooo> how i can obtain the grub menu, after install windows xp ???????????
[04:41] <sklav> weird
[04:41] <sklav> mine says 2 also
[04:42] <tonyyarusso> sklav, Interesting.
[04:42] <psusi> sarooo, reinstall it
[04:42] <brother_of_jared> sklav // so localhost could be jared and domain then would be com so localhost.localdomain could be jared.com
 sarooo, reinstall it << not is neccesary
[04:43] <sklav> tonyyarusso, try the init 3 option
[04:43] <Amaranth> Seveas: lmao, someone wants you removed from ubuntu-devel
[04:43] <sklav> what is you domain brother_of_jared
[04:43] <chance2105_> Toma-:  Figured it out.  My user was (1) not part of the admin group (that I ended up having to create), and (2) my user was not part of the sudoer's file.  I must have enabled the root account by accident during the install.
[04:43] <sklav> example my domain is sklav.com
[04:43] <sklav> so my hostname is mail.sklav.com
[04:43] <ara> pl_ice hey you forgot to tell me something, umask=1000
[04:44] <brother_of_jared> sklav // not certain.. I've not gone out to purchase one.. I guess I need to?
[04:44] <pl_ice> ara :)
[04:44] <tonyyarusso> sklav, That doesn't seem to have done anything.
[04:44] <sklav> well yes
[04:44] <ara> pl_ice just kidding
[04:44] <MrPPV> Error 16: Inconsistent filesystem structure - how can i resolve this error in grub?
[04:44] <sklav> unless you want local email than leave it at localhost.localdomain
[04:44] <MrPPV> help.....
[04:44] <pl_ice> ara yeh, we all gettin' old ;)
[04:44] <brother_of_jared> I was hoping to set my system up so I could serve pages or files from here.
[04:44] <psusi> sarooyou asked the question.. I gave the answer... instaling windows trashed grub so you need to reinstall it
[04:45] <psusi> MrPPV, boot from the livecd and fsck the volume... it's damaged
[04:45] <ara> pl_ice i don't know how long is it gonna take me to learn all this command, i want my XP back!!!!
[04:45] <MrPPV> fsck what? :X
[04:45] <MrPPV> n00b here
[04:46] <pl_ice> ara don't :) in couple of month u gonn cruse :)
[04:46] <sklav> later guys
[04:46] <sklav> im off to bed
[04:46] <GTroy> ara: yeah, don't sweat it, after a little while 10.4 cruises
[04:47] <GTroy> even after 10 years of windoze
[04:47] <sklav> brother_of_jared, get a dynamic dns domain name
[04:47] <MrPPV> psusi
[04:47] <pl_ice> u guys seen for gnome random wallpaper changer? can't find any ...
[04:47] <sklav> and setup your systems accordingly with the hostname
[04:47] <sklav> ok as for me im off i speak to u all next time
[04:47] <ara> pl_ice do i have to put that umask=1000 into fstab
[04:47] <GTroy> night skalv
[04:47] <psusi> MrPPV, if the volume in question is /dev/hda1, then boot from the livecd and run sudo fsck /dev/hda1
[04:48] <GTroy> *sklav* even
[04:48] <sklav> GTroy, ?
[04:48] <sklav> hehe
[04:48] <sklav> i saw it
[04:48] <sklav> later GTroy
[04:48] <pl_ice> ara i think so, but ntfs is read only, so i don't think u'll need it... try :)
[04:48] <GTroy> :D
[04:48] <pl_ice> the 'user' is important one
[04:49] <tellim> hi all, im still having problems with dvd playback, it tries to start, have libdvdcss2 and all, but it always fails saying it cant read from the disc in xine....
[04:49] <ara> pl_ice it's giving me this error--> unknown mime-type for "/etc/fstab" -- using "application/*"
[04:50] <pl_ice> ara try sudo gedit /etc/fstab  then add that line btw, did the manual mount worked?
[04:51] <ara> pl_ice yeah the manual mount worked but i can't edit the fstab even if i use sudo
[04:52] <pl_ice> ara , why? ... not sure
[04:52] <stevenj> New installation of breezy - all repos enabled and I get this 'Package msttcorefonts is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:52] <stevenj> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[04:52] <stevenj> is only available from another source' what the crap??????????
[04:52] <ara> pl_ice  "edit" mailcap rules found for type "application/*"
[04:52] <psusi> ara, I think you mean uid=1000, not umask=1000
[04:52] <ara> pl_ice this is the error
[04:52] <stevenj> ops
[04:52] <ara> pl_ice no umask=1000
[04:53] <fredforfaen> !sensors
[04:53] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, sensors is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SensorInstallHowto
[04:53] <ara> pl_ice that's what i used last time
[04:53] <psusi> no... 1000 is not a valid umask... umask=777 will make all files r/w/x to everyone... uid=1000 will make the files be owned by the default user ( you )
[04:53] <pl_ice> ara ,shit, don't know u sure the file is not open, yeh psusi is right ...
[04:54] <stevenj> anyone have a clue as to why  msttcorefonts
[04:54] <stevenj>  is not longer in universe??????
[04:54] <pl_ice> stevenj hm, i had them 2 wks ago...
[04:54] <stevenj> now I guess xchat is craping out brb
[04:54] <MrPPV> what is the default password for the root user_
[04:54] <MrPPV> _
[04:54] <SpaceBass> well, I hate to say... still cannot get rid of grub
[04:55] <psusi> tell MrPPV about root
[04:55] <stevenj> pl_ice, check now...they are not there
[04:55] <ara> pl_ice what?
[04:55] <SEJeff> !sudo
[04:55] <SpaceBass> MrPPV:  there is no root user
[04:55] <pl_ice> stevenj it's msttcorefonts
[04:55] <pl_ice> ara keep trying to edit that file ;) not sure what's wrong ...
[04:56] <stevenj> pl_ice, thats what I typed above
[04:56] <ara> pl_ice but this is the command i used last time and it was working perfect
[04:56] <pl_ice> ara u have to put that line i gave to /etc/fstab for automount somehow ...
[04:56] <MrPPV> i tried to do fsck /dev/hda1 but then it showed an error saying that i have no permission
[04:56] <ara> pl_ice should i reboot or what?
[04:56] <MrPPV> >*
[04:57] <psusi> MrPPV, sudo fsck
[04:57] <psusi> MrPPV, you need to prefix it with sudo because it is a privledged operation
[04:57] <MrPPV> oh =P
[04:57] <brother_of_jared> Madpilot // are you here??
[04:57] <MrPPV> sorry )P
[04:57] <SpaceBass> I need some help removing grub from a windows HD... removed the ubuntu partitions from windows and now I get a grub error -17 on boot... tried fixmbr and fixboot from windows recovery
[04:57] <MrPPV> =P
[04:58] <psusi> SpaceBass, fixmbr will fix it
[04:58] <SpaceBass> psusi:  I thought so too, but it didnt
[04:59] <psusi> try fixmbr c: maybe?
[04:59] <shammy> SpaceBass: try fixboot
[04:59] <SpaceBass> psusi:  I tried that
[04:59] <ara> pl_ice ok  i made it work by vi /etc/fstab
[04:59] <psusi> that's fubar... don't know what to tell you
[05:00] <ara> pl_ice i chose the option recover
[05:00] <pl_ice> ara, now sudo umount /home/ara/mymedia or what is it
[05:00] <stevenj> ah they are in multiuniverse
[05:00] <stevenj> hmm
[05:00] <tipnmo> i am having issues getting 3D acceleration issues to work... i have tried several guides now.. followed them exactly... and nothing... i have a x800xt with the latest driver (i think i installed it correctly)
[05:00] <ara> pl_ice do i have to umount it now?
[05:01] <shammy> SpaceBass: if neither fixmbr or fixboot helped then there's definately something else wrong.. but try installing GRUB over it again?
[05:01] <ara> pl_ice how do i exit this screen ,? fstab i mean
[05:01] <pl_ice> couse do now that: to check if fstab is correct . : sudo mount -av
[05:01] <tipnmo> anyone have any ideas.. any way i can diagnose?
[05:01] <JasonOfEarth> I'm having a problem with acpid... I killed it and then tried to run it and it tells me it can't open /proc/acpid/event when I try to sudo cat it it hangs the terminal anybody know what may be using it?
[05:01] <SpaceBass> shammy:  I'm not opposed to re-installing grub... guess I need to research how to do that via a live CD or something thought
[05:01] <pl_ice> ara , in gedit or vi ?
[05:01] <brother_of_jared> Question....
[05:01] <SpaceBass> s/thought/though
[05:02] <ara> vi
[05:02] <pl_ice> :/wq
[05:02] <tonyyarusso> SpaceBass, I might have a link for you.
[05:02] <MrPPV> psusi what what should appear?
[05:02] <llama32> mmmmmmm, space cakes
[05:02] <brother_of_jared> If I don't want to use "localhost" but would prefer "brotherofjared" how can I change that?
[05:02] <shammy> SpaceBass: Doesn't have to be grub, jst something that would re-write an MBR so you have something working
[05:02] <pl_ice> brother_of_jared i think it /etc/hosts
[05:02] <SpaceBass> tonyyarusso: anything would be appericated!
[05:03] <shammy> Is there more wireless support in Breezy? I haven't used ubuntu since hoary and want to go back.
[05:03] <tonyyarusso> SpaceBass, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, talks about re-installing/configuring grub from a Live CD.
[05:03] <brother_of_jared> pl_ice // thanks but I'm not certain how to change it..
[05:03] <pl_ice> can someone find me wp_tray package in gz or something ? can't find it ...
[05:03] <brother_of_jared> This terminal thing is rather cool but plenty to remember.
[05:03] <psusi> MrPPV, it should check the volume out and hopefully fix whatever is wrong with it
[05:03] <tipnmo> when i run fglrxinfo i get
[05:03] <SpaceBass> since I don't have a floppy with the ATA controller card's drivers I've pulled the drive and put it in a usb inclosure... then I remove it and put it back on the controller's IDE chain... I suspect that could be part of the problem too
[05:04] <MrPPV> tnkz
[05:04] <JasonOfEarth> brother_of_jarrod it's actually /etc/hostname
[05:04] <ara> pl_ice typr "/wq?
[05:04] <JasonOfEarth> just edit it
[05:04] <SpaceBass> tonyyarusso: thanks
[05:04] <brother_of_jared> Jason // how?
[05:04] <tipnmo> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[05:04] <tipnmo> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[05:04] <tipnmo> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.2.1)
[05:04] <pl_ice> ;)
[05:04] <pl_ice> ara sorry it's  :wq
[05:04] <JasonOfEarth> hmmm... gedit should be installed and you'll have to use sudo
[05:04] <SpaceBass> tonyyarusso: broken link, but I will try and find the page... thanks for the tip
[05:04] <JasonOfEarth> so sudo gedit /etc/hostname
[05:04] <llama32> brother_of_jared: i thought IRC names had a max of 11 characters
[05:05] <llama32> brother_of_jared: the specifications, they lie!
[05:05] <brother_of_jared> llama // that could be true, but what I typed was just an example
[05:05] <psusi> llama32, depends on how the irc server was compiled...
[05:06] <JasonOfEarth> brother of jared: there are two places... 1 in the hostnameareay
[05:06] <JasonOfEarth> but also you have to go into /etc/hosts and modify the top line
[05:06] <JasonOfEarth> otherwise you won't be able to get to the internet
[05:07] <tonyyarusso> SpaceBass, Odd, it just opened for me.
[05:07] <SpaceBass> tonyyarusso:  looks like my IRC client picked up a "," somewhere in the URL...  working now
[05:08] <tonyyarusso> SpaceBass, Ah.
[05:09] <SpaceBass> I;m gonna download the live CD and try and repair grub in the morning
[05:09] <SpaceBass> thanks again guys
[05:09] <ara> pl_ice i can't exit this fstab screen , it just types
[05:10] <linuxpoet> Does anyone here know who the postgresql packager for ubuntu is?
[05:10] <Kovecses> are the gnome and ubuntu releases still together?
[05:10] <Toma-> linuxpoet: you can find out with synaptic
[05:10] <tonyyarusso> Kovecses, Ubuntu releases are one month after Gnome.
[05:11] <xiaowen> Can you all tell me please why you chose Ubunto over other distributions?
[05:11] <Kovecses> tonyyarusso, so all releases of ubuntu will have the latest gnome?
[05:11] <pl_ice> ara u have to put  :  then command wq  (ie. write guit)
[05:11] <brother_of_jared> editing the hostname didn't change anything....
[05:11] <brother_of_jared> let me ask this..
[05:11] <beau> hey everyone.. I'm experiencing an interesting bug with ubuntu
[05:11] <flodine> guys how can i view mpg files on ubuntu
[05:11] <JasonOfEarth> is /proc/acpi/event just a file... for some reason I can't read it or delete it or anything I turned of acpid any idea what else might be trying to use this
[05:11] <pl_ice> brother_of_jared u probably have to restart couple of things ..
[05:11] <SpaceBass> flodine:  check out vlcplayer
[05:12] <brother_of_jared> what do I need to do so that my wife can view a page on my system, from her system
[05:12] <JasonOfEarth> brother_of_jared... you must logout and log back on
[05:12] <tonyyarusso> Kovecses, Yes.
[05:12] <Toma-> flodine: with Totem, its under Apps > Multimedia
[05:12] <JasonOfEarth> but make sure you also edited the /etc/hosts
[05:12] <Kovecses> tonyyarusso, sweet
[05:12] <MrPPV> l
[05:12] <beau> flodine: go to digg.com and do a search for  ubuntu multimedia  ... they link to a great script that installs a lot of multimedia stuff
[05:12] <SpaceBass> brother_of_jared:  do you have a DNS server on your network?
[05:12] <flodine> i download a movie all mpg files do i need to open it
[05:13] <SpaceBass> brother_of_jared:  if you don;t have a DNS server then your wife will have to use your computer's IP, not host name
[05:13] <pl_ice> JasonOfEarth what u want with it? to have  a look sudo cat event ....
[05:13] <brother_of_jared> All I have done is followed this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[05:13] <JasonOfEarth> @pl_ice: I tried to sudo cat event but it hangs the terminal... so that's not normal
[05:13] <Toma-> flodine: you should already have Totem installed. its all you need for most mpegs
[05:13] <tuv> the first control appearing in my mixer is not the one actually controlling the volume, the third one is. so the keyboard shortcut to change the volume is not working since it is changing the first control. how can i fix this?
[05:14] <beau> Hey, the past few nights, after about 2 hours of working on my PC, my hard drive will start running, sounding almost like it's doing some sort of defrag, and the system rapidly starts becoming less responsive until the hard drive just runs and nothing is responsive
[05:14] <Kovecses> tuv, you in gnome:?
[05:14] <tuv> yes
[05:14] <beau> i've checked and i have plenty of space on all my drives
[05:14] <SpaceBass> brother_of_jared:  looks like those are instructions on installing apache... but if your wife;s computer cannot find yours via hostname, then its another issue (most likely) like DNS
[05:14] <pl_ice> JasonOfEarth yeh, same here ..
[05:15] <pl_ice> JasonOfEarth sorry, not sure
[05:15] <ara> pl_ice i do the same thing but it won't do anything it just types, i put :wq
[05:15] <JasonOfEarth> beau: it's likely some cron job is running like locate you can see what cron jobs are set up in /etc/cron.daily
[05:15] <beau> ok, i'll look now
[05:15] <pl_ice> ara hit couple of times ESC then do :wq
[05:15] <benoy> Hello
[05:15] <pl_ice> esc wil get u out of write mode
[05:15] <JasonOfEarth> @pl_ice: it's just enough to know that mine is doing the normal thing I was worried it was corrupt in some way
[05:16] <brother_of_jared> SpaceBass // perhaps my question wasn't correct.
[05:16] <pl_ice> :)
[05:16] <benoy> Does anyone here work with Qt for C++ gui programming?
[05:16] <brother_of_jared> What do I need to do so that she can look at a page on my system?
[05:16] <lincoln> Where do I add a network device?
[05:16] <ara> pl_ice ok now do i have to reboot to see if it works or it should work now?
[05:16] <tuv> how can i change which mixer channel the keyboard shortcut affects in gnome?
[05:17] <Toma-> lincoln: System > Admin > Networking
[05:17] <pl_ice> ara no
[05:17] <JasonOfEarth> brother_of_jared after you've set up the apache you need her to type in your ip address... then whatever pages you have up
[05:17] <beau> bummer.. I don't quite understand the cron.daily folder
[05:17] <SpaceBass> brother_of_jared:  1) what is your system's hostname ? 2) are both machines on the same network or is this via the internet? 3) from HER machine, can you ping your machine's hostname?
[05:17] <pl_ice> ara umount that hd u mounted manualy, then type : sudo mount -va and check if it's mounted
[05:17] <brother_of_jared> Jason and space //
[05:18] <benoy> Does anyone here work with Qt for C++ gui programming?
[05:18] <lincoln> well that's what I thought, but the "add device" button is simply not there
[05:18] <brother_of_jared> cool info.. umm we share the same cable modem but I am certain that things happen over the net..
[05:18] <tuv> closing the laptop's lid activates the screensaver. how can i disable this?
[05:18] <brother_of_jared> how do I figure out my hostname and ip addy?
[05:19] <Toma-> ifconfig
[05:19] <JasonOfEarth> @brother_of_jared: ifconfig
[05:19] <SpaceBass> brother_of_jared:  that sounds like the same network (IE LAN) ... and i suspect you probably do not have an internal DNS server (not uncommon), so you'll have to use IP addresses
[05:19] <ara> pl_ice are you sure it's -va?
[05:19] <tuv> run hostname to find out the hostname
[05:19] <brother_of_jared> Space cool.. how do I figure them out?
[05:19] <Toma-> tuv: System > Preferences > Screensaver
[05:19] <SpaceBass> brother_of_jared: so in a terminal, type  (like JasonOfEarth  said) ifconfig and look for the IP address ... probably 192.186......
[05:19] <Toma-> Mode: Disable screensaver
[05:20] <pl_ice> yeh
[05:20] <tuv> Toma-: i disabled the screensaver there and still closing the lid activates the screensaver
[05:20] <benoy> Does anyone here work with Qt for C++ gui programming?
[05:20] <SpaceBass> brother_of_jared:  then from her computer you should be able to go to http://<yourIP>/<yourpage>
[05:20] <ara> pl_ice please use single character options
[05:20] <SpaceBass> brother_of_jared:  for instance: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/index.html
[05:20] <Toma-> tuv: look thru your xorg.conf and find "dpms" and comment out that line
[05:20] <ara> pl_ice i get this error
[05:20] <pl_ice> works for me :)
[05:20] <erisco> I am having a bit of trouble uploading my .php webpages via mc to my webserver. The problem is that the PHP is not seeming to work. I am saving the files as .html on my local system, then renaming them as .php on the server
[05:20] <pl_ice> ara sudo mount -a
[05:20] <Toma-> tuv: that *MIGHT* work. i dont have a laptop so im not sure
[05:20] <erisco> is this not what you are meant to do?
[05:20] <SpaceBass> (me hopes all 169.... are private)
[05:21] <pl_ice> then check if it mounted the hd
[05:21] <Toba> is that better?
[05:21] <brother_of_jared> So I typed in ifconfig..
[05:21] <beau> erisco it shouldn't matter
[05:21] <brother_of_jared> lots of info came up
[05:21] <tuv> Toma-: i found some xscreensaver commands in /etc/acpi/lid.sh, but i don't know what to do with them
[05:21] <beau> what server are you uploading them to?
[05:21] <erisco> i am thinking there is an actual command in mc to get the server to translate the .html to .php
[05:21] <Toma-> ahh
[05:21] <erisco> or, i am wondering if it is ubuntu. Even though I have my file saved as .html, ubuntu is seeing it as a php script. That is not exactly right.
[05:22] <brother_of_jared> Am I looking at the "inet addr" ??
[05:22] <beau> well if ubuntu is the client, trying to read the file from the server, that shouldn't matter
[05:22] <erisco> My point, is that the php document needs to be made on the server, but ubuntu may not be allowing that by trying to convert it on my local system
[05:22] <SpaceBass> brother_of_jared:  yeah
[05:22] <phreak97> i just had to enable "always use my fonts" in firefox, cos the site i go to most uses a font which has crapped up x's under linux
[05:22] <ara> pl_ice let me IM you the error
[05:22] <aconbere> is there a place to dig up system requirements for running ubuntu (disk space in particular)?
[05:22] <brother_of_jared> I have two different listings..
[05:22] <phreak97> i dont know what font it is though
[05:22] <erisco> never the less, when i do upload, change the extension, and try to hit the page.... it just keeps loading forever
[05:23] <phreak97> how can i find out?
[05:23] <erisco> anyone have any clues? :\
[05:23] <ara> pl_ice check your IM
[05:23] <SpaceBass> brother_of_jared:  what are they? (you are behind a NAT firewall, so sharing them here is completely safe)
[05:23] <pashaw> aconbere,   2G min
[05:23] <psusi> anyone here read "Understanding the Linux kernel" published by Oreilly?  picked it up the other day and it seems nice
[05:23] <pl_ice> IM ? um i don't think i put the right one in this chat mode ...
[05:23] <Linfan> i have a hp laptop i justg installed ubuntu i dont see a power managment feature for mobile computers? is there one available
[05:23] <psusi> err... wrong channel...
[05:24] <kalin> how can i install wine????
[05:24] <pashaw> !tell kalin about wine
[05:24] <phreak97> kalin, sudo apt-get install wine
[05:24] <phreak97> ?
[05:24] <kalin> i've been reading the instalation guide but i don't understand
[05:24] <Toma-> tuv: have you got all the acpi installed?
[05:24] <pl_ice> !pastebin
[05:24] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:24] <SpaceBass> ./open_bottle;./drink_goodstuff
[05:24] <pl_ice> ara use pastebin
[05:24] <SpaceBass> ohhh wrong wine
[05:24] <SpaceBass> brother_of_jared:  ?
[05:24] <brother_of_jared> ok so she can see the page which is cool.
[05:25] <brother_of_jared> What if I don't want to use the IP address all the time?
[05:25] <tuv> Toma-: what is all of the acpi, i've acpi, acpid, and acpi-support
[05:25] <kalin> mmmmmmmmmmmmm
[05:25] <ara> pl_ice it's only three lines can i send in here?
[05:25] <kalin> mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[05:25] <Toma-> tuv: thats all
[05:25] <SpaceBass> brother_of_jared:  the easiest thing to do is modify her host file...
[05:25] <SpaceBass> brother_of_jared:  what OS does she have?
[05:25] <pl_ice> ara use priv messages
[05:26] <erisco> mmmmm?
[05:26] <brother_of_jared> Winblows NT I believe
[05:26] <brother_of_jared> <--- Ubuntu Breezy
[05:26] <Toma-> tuv: what kind of laptop is it?
[05:26] <GURT> can someone tell me how to get these Audio CD icons off of my desktop? There are no CDs in the drive..
[05:26] <tuv> Toma-: vaio
[05:27] <SpaceBass> brother_of_jared: you may need google, but I think the host file in NT is at c:/windowsnt/system32/hosts  but I could be wrong
[05:27] <can-o-worms> GURT: rm ?
[05:27] <GURT> rm?
[05:27] <ara> pl_ice you remmember at the begining of the chat you send me privarte, i just sent you the error overthere
[05:27] <kalin> could anubody explain me the instalation of WINETOOLS 0.9?
[05:27] <can-o-worms> GURT: man rm
[05:27] <SpaceBass> brother_of_jared: basic idea is that you add a line in the host file that lookes like: brothers_computer   <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:27] <GURT> what is man rm?
[05:27] <Linfan> is there a program for ubuntu that handles pictures?
[05:27] <SpaceBass> where brothers_computer is what ever you want to use as the hostname and 192.... is your IP
[05:27] <brother_of_jared> How would changing a file on her system change the usage of the IP address for my pages?
[05:28] <SpaceBass> brother_of_jared: you'd have to edit it on her system
[05:28] <can-o-worms> GURT: take it for a spin, and find out
[05:28] <pashaw> brother_of_jared,   just use system search  under the windows directory for  hosts
[05:28] <GURT> that makes no sense
[05:28] <brother_of_jared> SpaceBass // how am I going to edit everyone's system?
[05:28] <SpaceBass> brother_of_jared:  thought it was just your wife's ?
[05:28] <tuv> Toma-: i just removed the lid.sh script from /etc/acpi as i can't think of anything that i need done when i close or open the lid
[05:28] <pashaw> brother_of_jared,   she wont need your ip# anymore  she could type in your computers name and get redirected
[05:28] <JasonOfEarth> @gurt: man is the linux manual it will tell you about commands (including rm )
[05:29] <brother_of_jared> Well at the moment it is.. but if she goes to work it won't be.
[05:29] <GURT> thanks
[05:29] <Toma-> tuv: you might want the screen to turn off...
[05:29] <SpaceBass> brother_of_jared:  check out dyndns ... i suspect your router even supports it, google it for more info
[05:29] <JasonOfEarth> @linfan: gimp is the program you're looking for
[05:29] <Linfan> is it like a iphoto or picasa?
[05:29] <GURT> rm dosen't sond as if it's going to help
[05:29] <GURT> sound
[05:29] <tuv> Toma-: isn't that done by the hardware/bios?
[05:29] <brother_of_jared> so then she could ftp to my IP then?
[05:30] <Toma-> tuv: don think so
[05:30] <JasonOfEarth> @gurt: sorry I missed your original question
[05:30] <SpaceBass> brother_of_jared:  even better go to registerfly.com and buy a $9.00 domain name (assuming your IP doesnt change... often)
[05:30] <Toma-> tuv: give it a try
[05:30] <GURT> can someone tell me how to get these Audio CD icons off of my desktop? There are no CDs in the drive..
[05:30] <kalin> =...)
[05:30] <kalin> =::)
[05:30] <brother_of_jared> Good idea Bass
[05:30] <kalin> =..)
[05:30] <Linfan> how can i enable the ubuntu boot screen? all i see know is text
[05:30] <DotheGuru> GURT, you mean the mounted drive icons?
[05:30] <tuv> Toma-: will do. do i need to do any thing to make the file removal effective?
[05:30] <phreak97> gurt, you dont happen to live in adelaide do you?
[05:30] <brother_of_jared> So what about ftp options?
[05:30] <Linfan> or where can i dl bootscreens
[05:30] <snowowl> How do I change my theme in Ubuntu under Gnome
[05:31] <GURT> DotheGuru: yes
[05:31] <kalin> =')
[05:31] <SpaceBass> I think yahoo even has $2.00 domain names... but I have used registerfly.com so long I forget to check
[05:31] <kalin> ='')
[05:31] <Toma-> tuv: make sure you only move it. DONT delete.
[05:31] <bshumate> snowowl: System > Preferences > Theme
[05:31] <GURT> i can't right click and unmount because that option dosen't exist
[05:31] <kalin> =..)
[05:31] <tuv> Toma-: it's in my home :)
[05:31] <CaptainMorgan> is azureus supposed to be in synaptic? cuz I don't see it..
[05:31] <kalin> =::::(
[05:31] <kalin> =..(
[05:31] <Toma-> tuv: good ;) im working on a hack for u :D
[05:31] <bshumate> Linfan: Gimp is similar to Photoshop, moreso than iPhoto
[05:31] <tuv> Toma-: besides, i can always reinstall its package and get the file back, can't i
[05:31] <dr3wster> hi, I'm having trouble installing a custom gnome panel applet.  I did configure, make install, and it worked...but now I dont' see it in the "add to panel" box. anyone have any ideas?
[05:31] <SpaceBass> brother_of_jared:  of course, if you use a domain name you are then talking about your EXTERNAL IP not internal... to find it go to http://www.ipchicken.com
[05:31] <phreak97> how do i update gaim?
[05:32] <Falstius> CaptainMorgan: its not there for amd64 installs
[05:32] <tuv> Toma-: hmm.. interesting.. thanks ahead
[05:32] <JasonOfEarth> @gurt: it may be that the icon is actually on your desktop if so you can go into the desktop folder ~/Desktop and use rm
[05:32] <Linfan> gimp is like photoshop so is there anything like iphoto for ubuntu?
[05:32] <johnsie2k> fuck
[05:32] <kalin> I WANT TO INSTALL WINE!!!!!! URGENTLY! xD
[05:33] <phreak97> kalin, sometimes it feels like everyone has you on ignore eh?
[05:33] <GURT> JasonOfEarth: they're no actually on there
[05:33] <tuv> kalin: what's wrong with: sudo apt-get install wine?
[05:33] <kalin> i'm falling onto dispair
[05:33] <GURT> JasonOfEarth: they're not in ~/Desktop
[05:33] <beau> kalin: go to digg.com and do a search for  ubuntu multimedia  ... they link to a great script that installs a lot of multimedia stuff
[05:33] <beau> and it installs wine
[05:33] <johnsie2k> for fuc sake my firefox keeps crashing
[05:33] <brother_of_jared> and if I stop Apache.. no one can get in ... right?
[05:33] <Toma-> johnsie2k: no swearing thx.
[05:34] <Linfan> how do i enable ubuntu bootscreen again?
[05:34] <Toma-> johnsie2k: why does it keep crashing? what version is it?
[05:34] <johnsie2k> fuc is not a waer
[05:34] <beau> does anyone else have any ideas for me?
[05:34] <pashaw> beau,  whats the script called ?
[05:34] <beau> i've checked and i have plenty of space on all my drives
[05:34] <beau> pashaw
[05:34] <beau> automatix
[05:34] <beau> i believe
[05:34] <pashaw> !automatix
[05:34] <ubotu> well, automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[05:34] <beau> :o
[05:34] <bshumate> Linfan: check out imgSeek...it is similar to iPhoto
[05:34] <pashaw> beau, that one  plz dont recommend it
[05:34] <Toma-> automatix is dangerous.
[05:34] <beau> k :x
[05:34] <beau> i use it?
[05:35] <beau> used
[05:35] <kalin> ok
[05:35] <SpaceBass> if I'm using a live CD do I need to add local drives to /etc/fstab  or should I just be able to mount them?
[05:35] <kalin> send me good vibrations
[05:35] <johnsie2k> not open to improvemnt? It's a friggin sh.... hardly closed source?!!!!
[05:35] <pashaw> beau,   yeah  its like the lottery some winners some losers
[05:35] <dr3wster> could anyone please help me install this gnome applet? I really want to control rhythmbox from the desktop:(
[05:35] <brother_of_jared> closed the wrong tab....
[05:35] <Toma-> i used it once, made all sorts of horrible things happen
[05:35] <kalin> cuse i'm desperate now
[05:35] <GURT> can someone tell me how to get these Audio CD icons off of my desktop? There are no CDs in the drive.. when i click on them it says Couldn't display "cdda:///dev/hdd" .. so i tried sudo umount /dev/hdd and it get and error saying that it isn't mounted
[05:35] <johnsie2k> Autmoatix rocks
[05:35] <kalin> thanks i'll see digg .,com
[05:35] <aconbere> so... my friends installation craps out during stage 2, is there anyway to restart that?
[05:36] <beau> why is it dangerous? maybe it has something to do with my computer locking up... but that was 2 weeks ago when i installed it
[05:36] <nurfe> Is there any easy wpa_supplicant guide available?
[05:36] <beau> Hey, the past few nights, after about 2 hours of working on my PC, my hard drive will start running, sounding almost like it's doing some sort of defrag, and the system rapidly starts becoming less responsive until the hard drive just runs and nothing is responsive
[05:36] <brother_of_jared> so stopping Apache means she won't be able to access the page?
[05:36] <phreak97> xchat doesnt open links when you click them
[05:36] <pashaw> beau,   will you be here to fix her system  if it breaks something?
[05:36] <phreak97> they underline when you hover over them, but they dont open
[05:36] <bshumate> Automatix stole my car, and tried to set my house on fire! ;-)
[05:36] <phreak97> how can i fix this?
[05:36] <beau> I can try pashaw
[05:36] <johnsie2k> Autmoatic is the best program for ubuntu
[05:36] <beau> but im sorry
[05:36] <beau> i'm new, i didnt know it was a bad script
[05:37] <beau> all I know is it worked great for me and i'm glad i ran it
[05:37] <Toma-> id say synaptic is
[05:37] <bshumate> !automatix
[05:37] <ubotu> it has been said that automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[05:37] <beau> !automatix
[05:37] <johnsie2k> how can an sh not be open to simprovemnt??? thats a lie
[05:37] <Toma-> johnsie2k: its not gpl
[05:37] <pashaw> johnsie2k,   you trolling?
[05:37] <beau> johnsie2k, lets not start a fight
[05:37] <fredforfaen> !java
[05:37] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[05:38] <johnsie2k> really sh is edibablt now?
[05:38] <Toma-> you can change it all you like. soon as you upload to someone else, you're gonna get fined
[05:38] <nurfe> !wpa
[05:38] <ubotu> hmm... wpa is enable the universe repository, then "sudo apt-get update", and then "sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant"
[05:38] <johnsie2k> come on
[05:38] <pl_ice> bored
[05:38] <nurfe> :/
[05:38] <beau> so does anyone have any ideas for my problem?
[05:38] <beau> Hey, the past few nights, after about 2 hours of working on my PC, my hard drive will start running, sounding almost like it's doing some sort of defrag, and the system rapidly starts becoming less responsive until the hard drive just runs and nothing is responsive
[05:38] <johnsie2k> anynone can change an automatix sh in geditd
[05:38] <nurfe> I can't seem to get wpa_supplicant to work apparently it installs fine...  It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[05:41] <Toma-> well keep top up and running. ALSO, pop open another term, and run "tail -f /var/log/messages"
[05:42] <fredforfaen> !mp3
[05:42] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:42] <beau> pashaw, were you trying to tell me something?
[05:42] <tuv> Linfan: read its documentation!
[05:42] <johnsie2k> automatix is the essential software that ubunto is miising
[05:42] <beau> johnsie2k, are you some kind of robot?
[05:42] <Linfan> how? where do i get it from
[05:42] <johnsie2k> no
[05:42] <beau> well then chill on it ok?
[05:42] <johnsie2k> so why flame me?
[05:42] <Toma-> johnsie2k: well file a bug and tell them to get it into dapper. no point wasting your time in a help channel.
[05:42] <Linfan> iwhere do i go to access it?
[05:42] <aconbere> So... if the 2nd stage of the installation fails... you just give up?
[05:43] <johnsie2k> a good program is a good program
[05:43] <fredforfaen> is this down ? -->  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:43] <Toma-> aconbere: cant you restart?
[05:43] <aconbere> is there a way to target the CD to install specific resources?
[05:43] <tuv> Linfan: /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant
[05:43] <beau> I'm not flaming you man, remember? i like it.. but it's obviously caused a lot of people problems, and these guys would know... so just respect the channel and dont mention it
[05:43] <aconbere> Toma-: yes, but that doesn't get me back to adding all the default packages.
[05:43] <johnsie2k> automatix helps people duh
[05:43] <Toma-> i mean, restart the install?
[05:43] <SpaceBass> I'm trying to use a live CD to repair my grub ... I can mount my hda1 but its read only so I cannot run grub-install
[05:43] <SpaceBass> anyone have an idea?
[05:43] <Toma-> johnsie2k: like i said. no point wasting your time here
[05:44] <SpaceBass> hda1 is NTFS
[05:44] <johnsie2k> help room... automatix helps people
[05:44] <Toma-> SpaceBass: you need to chroot to your linux partition
[05:44] <pashaw> johnsie2k,   your about to get the boot
[05:44] <phreak97> whats the best audio player (looking for something like winamp)?
[05:44] <DotheGuru> xmms is similar to winamp
[05:44] <johnsie2k> for saying automatix is good?
[05:44] <Toma-> phreak97: you want something that works or something that looks fancy?
[05:44] <fredforfaen> i cant accsess the wiki??? pls help
[05:44] <sampan> phreak97  xmms, beep are both winamp-alike
[05:44] <tuv> phreak97: amarok
[05:44] <johnsie2k> we're all entitked to an opinion
[05:45] <aconbere> Toma-: I can restart the install but it takes a pretty long to get through stage 1, so restarting is a bit of a pain, and if all the base install works I don't see why there shouldn't be a way to get packages off the CD.
[05:45] <Toma-> johnsie2k: stfu plz :)
[05:45] <DotheGuru> i too use amarok
[05:45] <SpaceBass> Toma-:  how does chroot work? I understand its a special shell, but am worried about data loss
[05:45] <johnsie2k> why?
[05:45] <pashaw> johnsie2k,  your clearly above the level of this channel   have a good night
[05:45] <thoreauputic> johnsie2k: enough, please
[05:45] <johnsie2k> im helping people
[05:45] <sethk> SpaceBass, it isn't a shell
[05:45] <sethk> SpaceBass, it changes the meaning of / for a context
[05:45] <pl_ice> fredforfaen my doesn't open, yet ...
[05:45] <sethk> SpaceBass, so you won't lose anything just by doing a chroot
[05:45] <Toma-> SpaceBass: chroot tells the live cd shell to "move" its focus to your partition. effectively, making your system boot from the live cd.
[05:45] <sethk> SpaceBass, of course, deleting is dangerous, but not more dangerous than normal
[05:46] <tuv> guys, how to control which mixer channel is affected by the keyboard shortcuts that change the volume?
[05:46] <Linfan> ok i went to usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant but i dont see anything for me to read
[05:46] <johnsie2k> sheesh
[05:46] <Toma-> SpaceBass: chroot wont make you loose anything, unless you do anything silly after you chroot
[05:46] <fredforfaen> pl_ice thanx
[05:46] <Toma-> johnsie2k: who are you helping specifically?
[05:46] <SpaceBass> ahhh so I need a USB key, or partition, etc that is free
[05:46] <phreak97> i want something that looks ok, but has functionality as first priority
[05:46] <johnsie2k> people who wanrt to install a load of apps quickly
[05:46] <phreak97> which of those three fits the description?
[05:46] <tuv> Linfan: you can read README.gz and what's in examples directory
[05:46] <sethk> SpaceBass, to do a chroot, you need a root file system.  Not an empty one.
[05:46] <Toma-> johnsie2k: no-one needs its at the moment do they?
[05:46] <saotome_> hi guys
[05:47] <Goldfisch> SpaceBass: if you chroot to an empty file folder, all you will see is nothing!
[05:47] <saotome_> after spending some hours of my life which i'll never get back, i discovered that version 4.1.12 has issues with prepared statements
[05:47] <saotome_> attempting to install 5.0 (on ubuntu), bu getting the following error
[05:47] <johnsie2k> how do u know though? some people might benefit from the apps
[05:47] <Toma-> Goldfisch: actually, you cant chroot to an empty partition. it looks for /bin/bash before it swaps over
[05:47] <beau> johnsie... come on
[05:47] <saotome_> Could not find help file 'fill_help_tables.sql' in ./support-files or inside /usr.
[05:47] <SpaceBass> I'm just trying to recover a windows bootable partition... blew away my ubuntu partition... was hoping I could use a live CD to repair grub
[05:47] <beau> you're even getting on my nerves now
[05:48] <saotome_> can anyone offer me some advice?
[05:48] <johnsie2k> come on what?
[05:48] <Toma-> SpaceBass: OH. you want woindows to work? no more ubuuntu?
[05:48] <Goldfisch> SpaceBass: Some people use chroot to install a 32-bit root partition inside a 64-bit environment. That way, they can 32-bit apps while running a 64-bit CPU.
[05:48] <SpaceBass> I don't have anywhere I can mount a filesystem to to use chroot
[05:48] <Linfan> whoa it says something about needing to build a config i dont know how to do that shit
[05:48] <beau> can someone kick him?  he's definitely not here for help and is not helping
[05:48] <pashaw> fredforfaen,   page finally loaded
[05:48] <johnsie2k> automatix turned my os into somewthing decent
[05:48] <thoreauputic> johnsie2k: please stop being annoyingly repetitious or you'll be gaged
[05:48] <thoreauputic> *gagged
[05:48] <SpaceBass> Toma-:  bought a box for ubuntu... dont need to dual boot
[05:48] <beau> sounds kinky
[05:48] <johnsie2k> stop flaiming me for ahving an opinion
[05:48] <beau> this isn't an opinion channel
[05:48] <Toma-> SpaceBass: sooper. is it windows xp?
[05:49] <thoreauputic> johnsie2k: you were warned
[05:49] <saotome_> again
[05:49] <SpaceBass> Toma-:  yeah, XP... and I've tried the windows recovery console and fixboot and fixmbr ... still tries to load grub
[05:49] <Toma-> hmmm
[05:49] <saotome_> having an error while attempting to install 5.0
[05:49] <saotome_> Could not find help file 'fill_help_tables.sql' in ./support-files or inside /usr.
[05:49] <saotome_> can someone help?
[05:49] <Toma-> so you want grub to load windows? :D
[05:49] <tuv> Linfan: that's why there is an examples dir.. besides, there is a simple config already in /etc/wpasupplicant
[05:49] <pashaw> saotome_,  5.0???   you mean 5.10 breezy?
[05:49] <saotome_> i am running breezy
[05:49] <Toma-> SpaceBass: you need at least 1 linux system to use grub. unless you get the windows version of grub i spose...
[05:49] <Goldfisch> Sounds like he is trying to ditch ubuntu+grub+whatever to get it back to speaking windoze.
[05:50] <saotome_> but i meant mysql 6.0
[05:50] <saotome_> 5.0*
[05:50] <SpaceBass> Toma-:  frankly I don't care which bootloader does it, but currently grub is there and I cannot get rid of it
[05:50] <Toma-> SpaceBass: i see.
[05:50] <CARNAGE> SpaceBass: Wich boot loader do you want to use ?
[05:50] <sethk> SpaceBass, you can easily get rid of it, but why would you want to?
[05:50] <SpaceBass> Toma-: well, preferably I'd remove grub in favor of the windows bootloader...
[05:50] <pashaw> saotome_,  MYSQL 5.0 can still only be installed by compiling   per the wiki
[05:50] <Toma-> sethk: hes got no linux partition. only need windows.
[05:50] <tuv> guys, how to control which mixer channel is affected by the keyboard shortcuts that change the volume?
[05:51] <SpaceBass> sethk:  b/c my system won't boot
[05:51] <saotome_> i can't use the binary?
[05:51] <CARNAGE> SpaceBass: Boot with the Windows XP CD press r for repair console and type /fixmbr /fixboot
[05:51] <pashaw> saotome_,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[05:51] <sethk> SpaceBass, you want to put the windows boot loader back on, you can
[05:51] <tuv> SpaceBass: to remove grub, look at freedos bootable cd
[05:51] <tonyyarusso> Do any of the movie players allow you to zoom in to point out details?
[05:51] <SpaceBass> CARNAGE:  no dice... done that 10 times (or more)
[05:51] <sethk> SpaceBass, hmm., then odds are there is damage to your ntfs partition
[05:51] <CARNAGE> SpaceBass: I have done that many many time it always worked Oo
[05:51] <SpaceBass> CARNAGE: likewise
[05:52] <sethk> SpaceBass, anytime the fix boot has failed, it has always turned out that some crucial file was missing on the ntfs partition
[05:52] <Toma-> SpaceBass: whats the error when you "fixmbr"?
[05:52] <SpaceBass> sethk: oddly enough the live ubuntu will mount the NTFS part and it appears intact
[05:52] <CARNAGE> SpaceBass: strange
[05:52] <saotome_> ooohh great
[05:52] <saotome_> this is gonna be fun!
[05:52] <SpaceBass> Toma-:  no error for fixmbr
[05:52] <pashaw> saotome_,   :)
[05:52] <sethk> SpaceBass, that's doubly odd, since grub is grub
[05:52] <saotome_> thx, let me see if i can survive this
[05:52] <Toma-> and fixboot?
[05:52] <saotome_> i will probably be back a dozen of times asking very stupid questions
[05:52] <SpaceBass> just an error with grub on boot (-17)
[05:52] <sethk> he gets no errors, it just doesn't fix
[05:52] <pl_ice> bye bye
[05:52] <tuv> saotome_: did you watch the Ranma 1/2 anime??
[05:52] <SpaceBass> no errors at all in the windows recovery console... just doesnt work
[05:53] <sethk> SpaceBass, have you reinstalled grub onto the mbr?
[05:53] <saotome_> yep!
[05:53] <saotome_> LOL!!
[05:53] <sethk> SpaceBass, for some reason it isn't restoring the actually boot loader which windows places in the two sectors preceding the first partition
[05:53] <saotome_> you are the first person ever that knows the origin of the name!
[05:53] <SpaceBass> sethk:  no, that's what I was hoping to do with the live cd, but I get permission denied when I do: sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[05:53] <sethk> SpaceBass, don't do it that way.  just run the grub shell and do it from there
[05:53] <tuv> people.. please.. how to control which mixer channel is affected by the keyboard shortcuts that change the volume?
[05:54] <saotome_> tuv: my first name is similar to saotome's first name, my friends gave me that nickname, a long time ago
[05:54] <phreak97> im installing beep
[05:54] <SpaceBass> sethk:  i'm not proficent in grub at all... so I don't know about the shell, et al ... can I do that from the live CD? b/c at this point grub doesnt even load on boot... just errors out
[05:54] <tuv> saotome_: cool
[05:55] <sethk> SpaceBass, sure, you can do it from the cd.  You'll need a proper grub configuration file (even if you won't be using it when you boot)
[05:55] <tuv> saotome_: hope there is no panda involved.. just an attempted joke
[05:55] <sethk> SpaceBass, basically, you only need two commands in the grub shell
[05:55] <sethk> SpaceBass, one is root, like:    root (hd0,0)
[05:55] <sethk> SpaceBass, and the other is boot:     boot (hd0)
[05:55] <SpaceBass> gotcha... but I need a config file first? or that generates the config file?
[05:55] <mcjerry> SpaceBass: when grub before grub errors out look to see if it gives you option to skip to command line and rerun grub setup
[05:56] <sethk> SpaceBass, you need a config file and a grub directory
[05:56] <DotheGuru> Gurt, if you are still around
[05:56] <phreak97> beep doesnt recognise my cd drive properly
[05:56] <GURT> i am
[05:56] <phreak97> what do i do?
[05:56] <DotheGuru> i figured out the solution
[05:56] <GURT> oh?
[05:56] <SpaceBass> sethk:  so do I pull the file from a working ubuntu box?
[05:56] <bshumate> SpaceBass: this should be fixable via the Windoze recovery cd :  boot cd, choose recovery (r), select windows instance, login, then at prompt, type : bootcfg /rebuild    it will scan for windows installations again, and present  a list.  in your case, just one entry should appear.  it will ask if you want the installation added to the boot list.  Answer with Y.  Reboot, and your machine should be back in the corporate opressive mode again (i.e. booting W
[05:56] <aconbere> does anyone know what this command does ? "dpkg --configure -a"
[05:56] <sethk> SpaceBass, that's a good way to do it.
[05:56] <GURT> DotheGuru: i'm all ears
[05:57] <DotheGuru> find your configuation editor
[05:57] <sethk> SpaceBass, but you also need a grub directory.
[05:57] <Goldfisch> ROFL
[05:57] <sethk> SpaceBass, you don't have linux anywhere on the hard disk?
[05:57] <sethk> SpaceBass, you wiped out what you installed?
[05:57] <SpaceBass> bshumate: i hate to say I've tried that at least 7 or 8 times tonight
[05:57] <Toma-> aconbere: run "man dpkg"
[05:57] <SpaceBass> sethk:  not on that drive, no
[05:57] <Remmy> Hi all, I have an Athlon 64 X2, but with the amd64 generic kernel only one core is used. When I boot the smp kernel, it hangs as it won't read my sata2 disks... what should I do?
[05:57] <DotheGuru> should be a red car
[05:57] <GURT> ok
[05:57] <GURT> opened
[05:57] <DotheGuru> go to apps
[05:58] <SpaceBass> sethk: it was a moment of not thinking..... at all...
[05:58] <GURT> ok
[05:58] <DotheGuru> then nautulus
[05:58] <sethk> SpaceBass, reinstall a minimal system.
[05:58] <Goldfisch> Remmy: Well...you may have to build your own. I thought I heard bad things about the stock kernel's regarding AMD64 and SMP.
[05:58] <GURT> ok
[05:58] <DotheGuru> you should see "show mounted....something"
[05:58] <DotheGuru> uncheck it
[05:58] <aconbere> Toma-: I'm asking becuase this is what we are told to run when trying to apt-get a package.  dpkg them errors out with a dbus error
[05:58] <SpaceBass> frankly if I can recover the files then I'd be fine... but since I make use of NTFS security and dynamic disks I'm worried that installing a minimail install will not help
[05:58] <Remmy> Goldfisch: What is the best way togo about it though? Get the "generic" source and only hit the SMP switch?