[09:22] <jake443> 15 minutes lost
[09:22] <jake443> cya
[09:22]  * aidanjt blinks
[09:22] <Atlantic777> jake443: ok, nevermind, I think I got it, it's like other said. Just resize swap and extended partition, then resize other partition you want to make larger and apply the changes.
[09:22] <hfic> Atlantic777, he left
[09:23] <hfic> He should stay on windows
[09:23] <aidanjt> what an ass
[09:23] <aidanjt> hfic: no kidding
[09:23]  * hfic agree

[09:23] <amr_> Hi all, I can't get gnome 3.4 work on my ubutnu 12, any help please ...?
[09:23] <gordonjcp> Airplane quote
[09:23] <Atlantic777> Oh, I see, he'll do his own research. :D
[09:23] <venu> hi, i did a fresh install of ubuntu 10.04 lts server
[09:23] <hfic> !detail | amr_
[09:23] <venu> but i am not able to do apt-get update
[09:23] <hfic> bah
[09:23] <hfic> !details
[09:23] <aidanjt> Atlantic777: yeah, that'll go well
[09:24] <cherva> can i safely delete everything in ~/.cache
[09:24] <gordonjcp> cherva: yes
[09:24] <amr_> hfic: i have the login but when I log to gnome I didn't see the normal interface of gnome 3.4 just normal panel at top and button not 3.4
[09:25] <amr_> hfic: here is full details http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12214542#post12214542
[09:25] <AdvoWork> i'm trying to get internet working on an old installation of Ubuntu(it needs to be old for a migration). lspci says: Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation: Unknown device 10c0 (rev 02)  how can I install that driver or get it working?
[09:25] <amr_> Please help me install gnome 3.4 on ubuntu 12, here is full details for my problem >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12214542#post12214542
[09:25] <ebs512> I am having an issue with trying to get theming ubuntu just right, I am running ubuntu 12.04 LTS, I have about 2 different settings to allow me to change themes and I'm not sure if having more than 1 is messing up the theme or what, trying a gtk+3 theme on ubuntu 2d, not sure if that is an issue either but could someone please help me get this setup?
[09:25] <cherva> gordonjcp, thanxk
[09:25] <cherva> gordonjcp, thanks
[09:27] <Atlantic777> AdvoWork: the driver is in kernel and I would not recommend you to compile kernel by yourself if you aren't experienced user. Can you post ID of that device which lspci is reported?
[09:27] <think> hello
[09:28] <Atlantic777> AdvoWork: try this site, too. It's probably good point to start with. http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/
[09:28] <AdvoWork> Atlantic777, the id(i think thats what you want) is: 0000:00:19.0 ?
[09:29] <paaaawerrr> Hi exist program like GetRight for Linux?
[09:29] <Atlantic777> paaaawerrr: what that program does?
[09:30] <brontosaurusrex> automagically seraches for file mirrors around the web and does multisite downloads
[09:30] <brontosaurusrex> getright that is
[09:30] <paaaawerrr> GetRight -> transfer menagement / increse transfer ( for ex. downloading file from HTTP/FTP from many sources ( that increse download speed)
[09:30] <AdvoWork> Atlantic777, this is for ubuntu 6.06 (i know v.v old) but I need to be able to get the internet working on it
[09:31] <Atlantic777> AdvoWork: that makes sense. :D Ubuntu 6.06 uses old kernel which probably doesn't have the driver you need. Why do you need working internet connection in it?
[09:31] <MonkeyDust> paaaawerrr  ubuntu has its own repos, windows doesnt
[09:31] <Gxps> okay i checked with lspci : 02:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01
[09:31] <AdvoWork> Atlantic777, I need to do a migration, and install some software, that only works with active connections, any suggestions
[09:31] <Atlantic777> AdvoWork: wouldn't booting live session and connecting to internet help?
[09:32] <AdvoWork> Atlantic777, i'd need a normal session to be able to do further installations of software?
[09:32] <paaaawerrr> Mknkey u dont understand, i want to download Ubuntu 12.04.01 DVD from FTP but download speed is 50-60kb/s... i want add other sources from otgher servers ( this same file), from 5 server download speed is 5x-60-60kb/s....
[09:32] <Atlantic777> AdvoWork: you can install software in live session, too. It's just not permanent (if you are booting from CD)
[09:32] <paaaawerrr> this do GetRight
[09:33] <AdvoWork> Atlantic777, the upgrade/backup/restore takes 16+ hours though, so my worry is live session failing = a lot of lost work. Is there any other ways to get the driver installed?
[09:33] <MonkeyDust> paaaawerrr  then it must be available somewhere you want
[09:34] <Atlantic777> AdvoWork: actually, you may compile that module for your kernel, but it probably wouldn't go as easy as you and me want.
[09:34] <Atlantic777> AdvoWork: another reasonable thing I would consider is buying an cheap network interface controler. :)
[09:35] <paaaawerrr> Mokey on WIndows im downloading by GetRight OpenSuSe ( for testing), open suse hostes has max 250kb/s, so im downloading from 8 server this same file , so 8x250kb/s = 2mb/s :) This same file from 8 sources as one File... This do GetRight... so i ask about this same program but like, on Ubuntu
[09:36] <brontosaurusrex> paaaawerrr, workaround is to dl isos with torrent
[09:36] <paaaawerrr> my ISP blocking torrent ports!
[09:36] <brontosaurusrex> ok
[09:37] <luftikuss> Why does my Ubuntu 12.04.1 not produce any sound in the video »Autohide Top Bar for GNOME Shell« of http://www.webupd8.org/2012/05/gnome-shell-autohide-top-bar-for-gnome.html? aplay works all right and Banshee also.
[09:37] <aidanjt> paaaawerrr: I would get that rate from the heanet.ie mirror.. but it really smells like your ISP is just being cheap and crappy
[09:37] <hfic> paaaawerrr, so use a proxy or change the torrent ports.
[09:37] <paaaawerrr> so i cannot play WoT and WOW-.-
[09:37] <AdvoWork> Atlantic777, any instructions for compiling the kernel with that correct driver?
[09:37] <paaaawerrr> No.. im pay my ISP ~10 US$ for 50mbps
[09:38] <paaaawerrr> without limits, but torrents are blocked... idk why...
[09:39] <hfic> paaaawerrr, it's not a secret that some isps block certain ports, including torrent port ranges. Either use a proxy to get around that or change the ports on the torrent client.
[09:40] <Atlantic777> AdvoWork: yes... don't do it. :D You need to find out correct name of driver you need, get source code, prepare build environment, make those .ko files, modprobe it and hope it will work. I would ask on linux kernel mailing list, too (LKML). Can you boot some live session and check which driver is needed for that ethernet card with "lspci -knn | grep -i ether -A 3"
[09:40] <Gxps> hmm ath9k is supposed to support my wifi so isnt WPS supposed to work then ?
[09:40] <paaaawerrr> No... proxy are bloked... ( 80% ), TOR (100% blocked)
[09:40] <Gxps> stillim asked for a passphrase..
[09:41] <aidanjt> paaaawerrr: right, 50mbps to them, but that doesn't stop them from throttling your internet bandwidth, I mean if they're blocking torrents then clearly they have an internal policy of interfering with heavy bandwidth use
[09:42] <Atlantic777> paaaawerrr: http://www.esotechnica.co.uk/2010/07/linux-getrigh/
[09:42] <ferni> they might be using some fancy torrent blocking thing, try setting encryption required from your torrent client
[09:42] <paaaawerrr> no.... my friend has 512kbps / 0,5$ and also are blocked torrents port...
[09:42] <brontosaurusrex> paaaawerrr, so change your sillly provider
[09:42] <hfic> !ot
[09:43] <paaaawerrr> brodro, i cannot , im my 120.000++ city is only one provider... -.-
[09:44] <ozette> Is there a way to find the name of the domain in my workgroup?
[09:44] <ozette> I'm trying to connect to a samba workgroup
[09:44] <hfic> ozette, the name is set in smb.conf
[09:45] <velho> GOOD MORNING :) anyone whant's tea?
[09:45] <aidanjt> velho: I never say no to a cuppa
[09:46] <velho> I'm trying to configure two monitors, but I cannot see the right resolution for the second monitor. please help
[09:46] <velho> aidanjt, i LOVE tea :)
[09:46] <ozette> ahh thanks hfic
[09:46] <ozette> hfic, thanks*
[09:46] <MonkeyDust> velho  there's xrandr and arandr
[09:47] <darknyss> My default language changed to chinese..
[09:47] <darknyss> chinese
[09:47] <Atlantic777> velho: what's the problem? Are there resoulutions you want when you run plain "xrandr" command?
[09:47] <darknyss> how do i fix this
[09:48] <SAngeli> Hi, I have a "mdadm" question. I have an existing ubuntu server with three hd (two identical one for radi and the third one for system) . sda and adb are the two hd for creating a raid-1. When creating a Linux array poing using this command "fdisk /dev/sdb" can I change the sdb into sd1 or should always be sdb?
[09:48] <velho> MonkeyDust, Atlantic777 I'm using the system definitions window. is that a command to run on the terminal? how can I run it?
[09:48] <e66_> In my Ubuntu when I right click on the top panel i dont see any menu? how can i add netspeed if no menu is shown?
[09:49] <Atlantic777> velho: just open terminal (you can do it with ctrl + alt + t) and run xrandr command.
[09:49] <Atlantic777> see if there are resolutions you want
[09:50] <aidanjt> SAngeli: both are possible, but by convention the normal way is to give each disk a partition with the type 'fd'
[09:50] <darknyss> My default language is Chinese on Ubuntu 12.04 ; Please help?!?
[09:51] <MonkeyDust> !info arandr > velho
[09:51] <Atlantic777> darknyss: http://askubuntu.com/questions/133318/how-do-i-change-the-language-via-a-terminal
[09:51] <velho> MonkeyDust, Atlantic777 typed the command xrandr
[09:52] <velho> what to do now?
[09:52] <SAngeli> aidanjt, sure. Another question: reading the guide I noticed that if an hd fails the array stops working. Is this correct? I wish to know if is possible to let the array keep running and also being notified asap via email of this
[09:52] <Atlantic777> velho: and you didn't answer me, is there resoulution you need in the output of that command?
[09:52] <aidanjt> SAngeli: nope, the array will keep going, the system should even be bootable
[09:52] <Guest3899> Voila Testing !!
[09:53] <Atlantic777> Guest3899: maybe you would like to join the #test chan.
[09:53] <SAngeli> aidanjt, cool. as for being notified via email? where can I learn more about mdadm and ubuntu?
[09:53] <aidanjt> SAngeli: all 3 of my disks are in a raid5 array and linux just boots off it
[09:53] <velho> Atlantic777, sorry! no, I think the resolution I need is not here. I have a swuare screen
[09:53] <MonkeyDust> !raid | SAngeli
[09:53] <e66_> how can I add applet to unity top bar
[09:53] <SAngeli> MonkeyDust, thank you
[09:54] <Atlantic777> velho: can you send output of "lspci -knn | grep -i vga -A 3" ?
[09:54] <aidanjt> SAngeli: edit /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf and change the MAILADDR
[09:54] <velho> Atlantic777, and all these resolutions are for 16:9, I think
[09:54] <velho> Atlantic777, how can I do that? sorry, I'm new to this
[09:54] <SAngeli> yes, I have all these written dow. I will implement in few minutes all these. I needed to understand.
[09:54] <SAngeli> I will later read the email part.
[09:55] <MonkeyDust> velho  did you see ubottu 's private message?
[09:55] <AdvoWork> Atlantic777, can i use any live cd, or does it have to be an old version of ubuntu im using?
[09:55] <velho> NO! gonna read it :)
[09:55] <Atlantic777> velho: just copy that command I gave you into terminal window.
[09:55] <SAngeli> aidanjt, I will use ext4 as filesystem. As I have to interface it with windows will it be better to use SAMBA (Known to be a slow protocol) or iscsi? I wish to have fastest net connection
[09:56] <Atlantic777> AdvoWork: try with new and see if there is driver you need, which driver you need and then we can look how to get it on 6.06
[09:56] <Atlantic777> velho: btw, copy/paste is ctrl + shift + c and ctrl + shift + v when you work with terminal.
[09:56] <ThinkT510> !6.06
[09:57] <velho> Atlantic777, ok, done :) what now?
[09:57] <Atlantic777> velho: copy that three lines here.
[09:57] <HadiM> hello
[09:57] <velho> Atlantic777, OK!
[09:57] <HadiM> I have a serious problem with dpkg / apt / aptitude
[09:57] <aidanjt> SAngeli: depends, iSCSI is block protocol, so you'd have to point it to an lvm volume, or a dd'd file image or some such and format it with ntfs.. samba is a file-level protocol which is less of a hassle since everything sits on top of the ext4 partition and usable by both systems
[09:57] <velho> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI M96 [Mobility Radeon HD 4650] [1002:9480]
[09:57] <velho> 	Subsystem: COMPAL Electronics Inc Device [14c0:003e]
[09:57] <velho> 	Kernel driver in use: fglrx_pci
[09:57] <velho> 	Kernel modules: fglrx, radeon
[09:58] <seeker> hi, I'm trying to figure out the best way to keep up with chromium updates. the chromium team ppa seems to be no longer updated
[09:58] <SAngeli> aidanjt, is samba slow protocol compared to ISCSI?
[09:58] <Atlantic777> velho: that looks ok. :/
[09:59] <aidanjt> SAngeli: there might be a slight bit of overhead, but in my experience samba is able to keep up with gigabit ethernet
[09:59] <SAngeli> ok, will try and see
[09:59] <opalepatrick> anyone know how to add html5 synatx highlighting in bluefish 2.2?
[09:59] <velho> Atlantic777, so how can I recognize the second screen? :/
[09:59] <MonkeyDust> velho  keep it in the channel, what ubottu says, is that there's a GUI for xrandr, called arandr, you can install it
[10:00] <Atlantic777> velho: wait, are just resolutions wront or you can't even see second screen?
[10:00] <SAngeli> aidanjt, if I wish to use iSCSI after having created a raid-1 array I assume I have to change type of filesystem. So, rather than creating a ext4 what should I create? Or better is there a iSCSI ubuntu guide to follow in relation to raid-1?
[10:00] <SAngeli> I hope I properly asked this question
[10:00] <aether> [AMD] nee ATI M96 [Mobility Radeon HD 4650] [1002:9480 nice card!
[10:01] <velho> Atlantic777, I CAN see the second screen, I just cannot recognize it to a configurable resolution. There's no Image. But the system knows the screen is on.
[10:02] <aidanjt> SAngeli: you'd really point the iscsi target to the new raid device node.. but keep in mind that iscsi requires exclusive access, unlike samba which can handle many clients..
[10:02] <user14> Hello. Which filesystem is better for / and /home? In what order is it better to partition the disk? Do I need to use 50 Gb / partition or 30 Gb is enough?
[10:02] <velho> MonkeyDust, ok!
[10:02] <SAngeli> ok
[10:03] <fujisan> hi
[10:03] <fujisan> i love ubuntu
[10:03] <fujisan> ty all for coding it
[10:04] <HadiM>  I have a serious problem with dpkg / apt / aptitude
[10:04] <fujisan> get a mac HadiM  :)
[10:04] <aidanjt> user14: ext4 is generally suitable for both..
[10:04] <HadiM> i got an infinite loop when install or remove kernel
[10:04] <velho> MonkeyDust, installed it, but it doesn't recognise the second screen. Ubuntu default program recognise it, but there's no image :/
[10:05] <user14> aidanjt, and how faster is it comparing to ext3?
[10:05] <MonkeyDust> HadiM  what command do you use?
[10:06] <HadiM> sudo dpkg -i *deb
[10:07] <HadiM> hadim boromir 3.6-rc3 $ ls
[10:07] <HadiM> linux-headers-3.6.0-030600rc3_3.6.0-030600rc3.201208221735_all.deb
[10:07] <HadiM> linux-headers-3.6.0-030600rc3-generic_3.6.0-030600rc3.201208221735_amd64.deb
[10:07] <HadiM> linux-image-3.6.0-030600rc3-generic_3.6.0-030600rc3.201208221735_amd64.deb
[10:07] <HadiM> linux-image-extra-3.6.0-030600rc3-generic_3.6.0-030600rc3.201208221735_amd64.de
[10:07] <FloodBot1> HadiM: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:07] <HadiM> sorry
[10:07] <HadiM> http://pastebin.com/iAx5nGd4
[10:07] <aidanjt> user14: depends on the workload, most things are a bit faster, some slightly slower, some quiet a bit faster, different horses for different courses.. xfs is considered very fast with whopping big media files
[10:08] <aidanjt> *quite a bit sorry
[10:08] <HadiM> http://pastebin.com/7Ju2DWfq
[10:09] <HadiM> now when i want to use apt-get or similar command I got this : E: The package linux-image-3.5.0-030500-generic needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[10:09] <user14> aidanjt, no prob, I'm looking more for stability than speed actually.
[10:10] <velho> Atlantic777, MonkeyDust , now I see the screen with Arandr and the image, But I cannot put them side by side. How to incrise the space size=
[10:10] <velho> ?
[10:10] <MonkeyDust> HadiM  what's the outcome of lsb_release -sd ?
[10:10] <aidanjt> user14: yeah I haven't had any problems with ext4, it's a fairly sane default fs
[10:10] <Atlantic777> velho: that's size of virtual screen. Do you use xorg.conf?
[10:10] <velho> Atlantic777, probably not, since I don't know what that is :)
[10:11] <user14> aidanjt, alright, I'll use ext4 for both then. What about / partition size?
[10:11] <HadiM> MonkeyDust:  Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS
[10:11] <Atlantic777> velho: "ls /etc/X11 | grep xorg.conf"
[10:11] <aidanjt> user14: I haven't needed any more than ~16GB really, depends on how much you use /tmp mostly
[10:11] <MonkeyDust> HadiM  the latest supported kernel for 12.04 is 3.2
[10:11] <SAngeli> I have another simple issue: I installed ubuntu server in Italian. how to solve issues with outpt messages like these: non contiene nÃ© una tabella ?
[10:12] <velho> Atlantic777, done. and now?
[10:12] <SAngeli> I wish to solve this globally and not for a user
[10:12] <HadiM> yep I know but I got some intel problem with my laptopt (vaio Z2)
[10:12] <HadiM> kernel 3.6 and 3.5 work better
[10:12] <HadiM> anyway that is not the problem, the problem is ap-get / dpkg are broken
[10:12] <joobie> hey guys.. freesh install of ubuntu alternatives on 4 x 3TB HDD's.. i have md0 which is root and md1 which is swap. I reboot, then i get the grub-rescue prompt.. what's up wiht that?
[10:13] <AdvoWork> Atlantic777, finally got a live cd booted. It lists a few different entries, is there anything specific you need to know from me?
[10:13] <HadiM> there is a way to fix it ?
[10:13] <joobie> im reading all this jazz about GPT and bios boot.. why doesnt ubuntu handle this natively?
[10:13] <equex> if i add a filter in synaptic saying 'Description' 'Includes' 'KDE' shouldnt that filter packages with 'KDE" in the package list ? i cant get it to work./..
[10:13] <aidanjt> SAngeli: try #ubuntu-it ?.. I'm sure they'd have more practice with Italian localisation issues
[10:13] <user14> aidanjt, so 30 Gb will probably be enough. Thanks for answering!
[10:13] <Project2501> Hi all. I'd like to run ubuntu server with blackbox and xbmc. Would this be possible?
[10:13] <aidanjt> user14: no problem
[10:13] <Atlantic777> AdvoWork: yes, the most important... is your network card working with newer ubuntu?
[10:13] <velho> Atlantic777, the text "xorg.conf" appeared. but the problem remains. What was that command for?
[10:13] <MonkeyDust> HadiM  try installing something else, some small app or so, so if you get the same error
[10:13] <SAngeli> aidanjt, thanks
[10:13] <MonkeyDust> HadiM  so = see
[10:14] <HadiM> yep I got the same
[10:14] <HadiM> for install / remove / upgrade commands
[10:14] <Atlantic777> velho: of course the problem remans. That command just checks do you use some config file.
[10:14] <HadiM> dist-upgrade also
[10:14] <velho> Atlantic777, oh ok :)
[10:14] <HadiM> and when I try to reinstall the package I got this infinite loop run "run-parts" command
[10:15] <velho> Atlantic777,  so, how to increase the arandr size?
[10:15] <HadiM> also update-grub go in an infinite loop
[10:16] <Atlantic777> velho: run "gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and copy contents of that file on http://paste.ubuntu.com and give me the link then
[10:17] <velho> Atlantic777, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1183268/
[10:18] <Atlantic777> velho: only that? Uhm, ok... and what are the resolutions you need?
[10:18] <HadiM> MonkeyDust: any clue ?
[10:19] <HadiM> MonkeyDust: now way to "hard reset" apt-get ?
[10:19] <HadiM> now = no *
[10:19] <joobie> guys is there a more cutdown version of ubuntu alternative install that doesnt install 1000 packages?
[10:19] <joobie> .. but does support md-raid?
[10:19] <joobie> after Xorg btw
[10:20] <AdvoWork> Atlantic777, doesn't appear to be yet
[10:20] <ikonia> joobie: just install and remove what you don't want
[10:20] <ikonia> joobie: you've just asked for basically a personal spin, cut down...that has X and Y but doesn't have Z but installs Y after Z - just use the installer and remove what you don't want
[10:21] <MonkeyDust> HadiM  try sudo apt-get -f install
[10:21] <ferni> joobie: minimal cd
[10:21] <velho> MonkeyDust,  Atlantic777, I got them. The 2nd screen is recognisable with arandr. But the 2nd screen gets in top of the first
[10:22] <Atlantic777> velho: I understand, but which resolutions do you need?
[10:22] <velho> MonkeyDust,  Atlantic777, I need space on arandr, to put the 2nd screen on the right of the 1st screen
[10:22] <Atlantic777> velho: we need to calculate size of that one big screen.
[10:25] <joobie> thanks ferni
[10:25] <HadiM> MonkeyDust: same error
[10:25] <HadiM> hadim boromir 3.5 $ sudo apt-get -f install
[10:25] <HadiM> Reading package lists... Done
[10:25] <HadiM> Building dependency tree
[10:25] <HadiM> Reading state information... Done
[10:25] <HadiM> E: The package linux-image-3.5.0-030500-generic needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[10:25] <HadiM> sorry forgot to pastebin
[10:26] <FloodBot1> HadiM: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:26] <joobie> ikonia, it's not a personal spin - it's a secure approach.. why install 1000's of unused packages that compromise the security of the system if it's not needed?
[10:26] <velho> Atlantic777, 1st screen: 1280x720. 2nd screen:  1024x768
[10:26] <velho> Atlantic777, at least :/
[10:26] <darknyss> Mount of filesystem failed - Right after grub.
[10:26] <darknyss> Ideas? >.<
[10:26] <ikonia> joobie: because the majority of people want and need them, so just remove wha tyou don't wnat
[10:26] <HadiM> MonkeyDust: http://pastebin.com/cNARDAky
[10:27] <ryao> joobie: You can do a debootstrap installation.
[10:27] <MonkeyDust> HadiM  how come 3
[10:27] <MonkeyDust> HadiM  how come 3.5 is there, in the first place?
[10:27] <velho> Atlantic777, there is no "something"x720 resolution for the second screen. That would be ideal
[10:27] <joobie> ikonia, i doubt the majority of people need the 1000 packages it installed by default
[10:27] <ryao> joobie: It is like doing a Gentoo stage3 install, except it is Ubuntu.
[10:27] <darknyss> After choosing Ubuntu in grub ; Error message = Filesystem Check or Mount Failed.
[10:27] <darknyss> Help ?
[10:28] <ikonia> joobie: they need a combination of them, it's aimed at the masses, so they do need it
[10:28] <ikonia> joobie: if you don't need/want something, just remove it
[10:28] <Atlantic777> velho: but you can add "modes" manually. Sorry, I'm stuck at work, have to get something done.
[10:28] <ryao> ikonia: Let people install what they actually need. :/
[10:28] <ikonia> ryao: you can install what you want.
[10:28] <MonkeyDust> ryao  most people want to work, not to install anything
[10:28] <HadiM> I already install it few weeks ago
[10:28] <Atlantic777> Can anyone other help here? velho needs to add some resolutions (modes) to xorg.conf and set size of virtual screen.
[10:28] <darknyss> No one knows? =(
[10:28] <HadiM> MonkeyDust: but I would like to remove it
[10:29] <MonkeyDust> HadiM  guess 3.5 is simply not well supported
[10:29] <ryao> ikonia: I said "what they actually need", which implies not having extra stuff.
[10:29] <velho> MonkeyDust, can you help me?
[10:29] <HadiM> MonkeyDust: again I dont really care about kernel 3.5, I would like to restore apt-get and dpkg
[10:29] <ikonia> ryao: then don't use the ubuntu desktop install CD
[10:29] <HadiM> do you know how to do it ?
[10:29] <ikonia> ryao: use the minimal CD and install what you want/need
[10:29] <ferni> ikonia: if thats your point, so why restrict the install media to a cd size? people need more software!
[10:30] <MonkeyDust> HadiM  remove 3.5 the same way you installed
[10:30] <MonkeyDust> it*
[10:30] <velho> MonkeyDust, I need to add some resolutions (modes) to xorg.conf and set size of virtual screen. I don't know what does that mean, but Atlantic777 knows :D
[10:30] <ikonia> ferni: because downloading 700mb is the smallest download possible for the base install
[10:30] <ikonia> ferni: people don't want to download 2.6GB or 4GB or greater to get something that can be held in 700mb
[10:30] <HadiM> MonkeyDust:  i got the same error
[10:31] <velho> MonkeyDust, how to increase the size of Arandr?
[10:31] <darknyss> Someone.. please help?!?!?
[10:31] <MonkeyDust> velho  i'm not familiar with xorg.conf, never edited it or so, never needed to
[10:31] <HadiM> http://pastebin.com/vjz1zggQ MonkeyDust
[10:31] <velho> MonkeyDust, gosh :(
[10:32] <darknyss> I guess I'll continue to get ignored without reason while 10 of you have a conversation.
[10:32] <MonkeyDust> HadiM  try using a GUI, synaptic or software center
[10:32] <darknyss> Lovely.
[10:32] <velho> MonkeyDust, but how do you increase the size of Arandr?
[10:32] <HadiM> MonkeyDust: not working as well
[10:32] <HadiM> same error
[10:32] <MonkeyDust> velho  i'm sure someone else can help better
[10:33] <tuxgeek> hello , how do i know my ati radeon is working on ubuntu?
[10:33] <Atlantic777> velho: type "/j #xorg" here
[10:33] <darknyss> MonkeyDust, velho, HadiM, None of you know?
[10:33] <velho> MonkeyDust, Atlantic777 was the only one helping me... now I'm stuck in the midle of the problem. Can anyone help?
[10:33] <Atlantic777> velho: that will take you to the xorg chan, ask there, wait and you will get help
[10:34] <thermostat> I'm having an issue with Kiosk mode. I'm trying to get an app to run but it isn't playing ball atm. I can get it to run by adding a command to Startup Applications though. Anyone here that knows about Kiosk mode xSession file configs?
[10:35] <tuxgeek> i want to know if my ati radeon wokr
[10:35] <tuxgeek> works
[10:35] <darknyss>  After choosing Ubuntu in grub ; Error message = Filesystem Check or Mount Failed. -- How To Fix?!?!
[10:35] <meagain> hello ppl.... by accident i moved a file in my root folder.. now i cant get it to move back.. i tried gksudo nautilus, but copy/cut fails due to permissions.. any idea on how to do it?
[10:36] <velho> Atlantic777, I just entered in the #xorg channel. thank you for all the help so far. Thank you MonkeyDust also. You are so kind :)
[10:36] <ryao> ikonia: A debootstrap would probably work better.
[10:36] <darknyss>  After choosing Ubuntu in grub ; Error message = Filesystem Check or Mount Failed.
[10:36] <darknyss>  After choosing Ubuntu in grub ; Error message = Filesystem Check or Mount Failed.
[10:36] <darknyss>  After choosing Ubuntu in grub ; Error message = Filesystem Check or Mount Failed.
[10:36] <FloodBot1> darknyss: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:37] <paranogoo> maeg
[10:37] <velho> sorry darknyss  I'm just a noobie. wish I could help, really!
[10:37] <tuxgeek> also i whould like to know how can i have a graphical menu to book windows or linux
[10:37] <darknyss> velho, I just really hate being ignored.
[10:37] <tuxgeek> me too
[10:38] <velho> darknyss, anyone does :D
[10:38] <velho> but I cannot help you, really
[10:38] <MonkeyDust> !repeat| darknyss
[10:38] <velho> darknyss, wish I could!
[10:38] <darknyss>  After choosing Ubuntu in grub ; Error message = Filesystem Check or Mount Failed. --> How Do I Fix This?
[10:38] <paranogoo> meagain: try "sudo mv /file/to/be/moved /file/where/to/be/moved" in terminal (ctrl+alt+t)
[10:41] <meagain> paranogoo: when i type gksudo nautilus, it opens nautilus and i see the file in Home... but i cant seem to be able to find the file by path... :(
[10:42] <meagain> paranogoo: it is not in the normal Home folder
[10:42] <meagain> paranogoo: "normal" = without gksudo...
[10:42] <ThinkT510> meagain: that would be root's home folder
[10:43] <ebs512> anyone been able to successfully apply a theme to Ubuntu 2D, apparently it doesnt like gtk themes
[10:43] <darknyss> MonkeyDust, Any ideas?
[10:44] <thermostat> I'm having an issue with Kiosk mode. I'm trying to get an app to run but it isn't playing ball atm. I can get it to run by adding a command to Startup Applications though. Anyone here that knows about Kiosk and can help?
[10:45] <thermostat> I'm creating a .desktop in Xsessions
[10:47] <darknyss> :{
[10:48] <meagain> ThinkT510, paranogoo : mv: cannot stat `/root/home/the_name_of_the file': No such file or directory
[10:48] <ThinkT510> meagain: its just /root/
[10:48] <meagain> ThinkT510, paranogoo : and again  -> mv: cannot stat `/root/Home/the_name_of_the file': No such file or directory
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> darknyss  scroll down to 'whooopiee' http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/filesystem-check-failed-784278/
[10:49] <meagain> ThinkT510 : lol... i think a bit more studying is needed... thanx a lot man!! (or woman :) )!
[10:51] <veence01> It's just curious that on Ubuntu I feel like Home, that feeling is just not the same on Mac OSX
[10:52] <Daghdha> is there any alternative to workspaces in 12.04? I find it highly annoying implementation
[10:55] <Onlyodin> I seem to have developed a problem with Precise on my Laptop. In the last two or three days local network access (over WiFi) has slowed to a crawl, it takes up to a minute to get a ping response from machines on the LAN and latency when it does start is >10,000ms
[10:55] <Onlyodin> before all my hair goes grey, does anyone have any thoughts as to what might be happening? There are no similar issues with any other wired or wireless machines on the LAN, no duplicate IPs, etc. etc.
[10:56] <hrondex899> Daghdha: Yes, try GNU Screen
[10:58] <MonkeyDust> Daghdha  try byubo/screen
[10:59] <SvenHH> hi everyone, i have a problem with my 12.04 installation. the nvidia 3d desktop does not work with the nvidia 304.43 driver. does anyone know about this? or can point me to a solution? thanx in advance, sven
[10:59] <Daghdha> thanks MonkeyDust and hrondex899. But i like a  workspaces style one, only proper. Likethe one in 10.x that was much better
[11:00] <velho> Need to update Arandr 1.4 to 1.6 . No automatic updates in the system. How can I update this manually?
[11:00] <MonkeyDust> Daghdha  that was gnome2, no?
[11:01] <velho> SvenHH, I'm a newbie, but I try to help. Did you installed aditional drivers?
[11:01] <ubuntu> Same thing happens, after trying to fix that Monkey.
[11:01] <ubuntu> This is Dark
[11:01] <Daghdha> MonkeyDust: It was a graphical representation of your workspaces in the bottom border, as a widget, and clicking on it would open the workspace. And clicking an little app block in it would even open the app
[11:02] <SvenHH> thanx velho, no i'm using the nvidia-current-updates package.
[11:02] <aidanjt> Daghdha: you can use gnome-session-fallback for a more gnome 2 like UI
[11:02] <Daghdha> aidanjt: How wil that affect the workspace?
[11:03] <velho> SvenHH, try to install that, maybe! I did, and everything works fine
[11:03] <velho> Need to update Arandr 1.4 to 1.6 . No automatic updates in the system. How can I update this manually?
[11:03] <aidanjt> Daghdha: your desktop will look and behave more like ubuntu 10.04/10.10
[11:03] <Daghdha> aidanjt: I am on VNC always you see, all those zom in zoom out works bad.
[11:04] <SvenHH> velho: sorry i mean yes. using the additional driver. this is in fact nvidia-current-updates.
[11:04] <luftikuss> The DEB program package tp-amapi-dkms is installed. Why does lsmod not list a module »tk_smapi«?
[11:04] <luftikuss> The DEB program package tp-smapi-dkms is installed. Why does lsmod not list a module »tk_smapi«?
[11:04] <velho> SvenHH, ok. So what's the problem?
[11:06] <SvenHH> velho: after logging in to the 3d desktop no gadgets show up the taskbar shows only a frame and you only see the background. popup menus only show a dark frame as well.
[11:06] <Darknyss> MonkeyDust, Same issue :{
[11:07] <velho> How to manually update programs? Need to update Arandr 1.4 to 1.6 . No automatic updates in the system.
[11:08] <vega-> velho: not really supported here, but you could try to find a ppa with the packages you want. google.
[11:08] <Darknyss> >_____________________> Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaate this error.
[11:08] <velho> vega-, doing so ;)
[11:09] <velho> vega-, what is a ppa?
[11:09] <szal> !ppa
[11:09] <Darknyss> !fap
[11:10] <velho> vega-, what is a ppa?
[11:10] <szal> velho: can you read?
[11:10] <velho> vega-, sorry. szal thanks!
[11:11] <velho> szal, no need to be rude. didn't noticed that
[11:11] <hrondex899> !ppa
[11:11] <hrondex899> velho: Rolling release distributions may suit you better if you need always up-to-date software
[11:13] <velho> hrondex899, I just whant to Update Arandr from 1.4 to 1.6
[11:13] <velho> hrondex899, and I can't see a way to do it
[11:14] <hrondex899> velho: This is an inherent problem with Ubuntu, most of its software is out of date
[11:14] <AdvoWork> Atlantic777, any further ideas?
[11:15] <Darknyss> To a moderate exp. user, Is Lubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu a better option?
[11:15] <Darknyss> Still compatible for gaming and other things?
[11:15] <SvenHH> velho: anything i can do about this?
[11:15] <gordonjcp> Darknyss: "better" in what way?
[11:16] <spidernik84> @velho: try to add the backported repo
[11:16] <Darknyss> gordonjcp, faster?
[11:16] <spidernik84> might contain the pkg you want
[11:17] <spidernik84> or backport it yourself with prevu. Might work. Yet prevu has been removed from 12.04 as it's unsupported
[11:18] <dd_> Darknyss: the fastest would be Xubuntu or Lubuntu. You might find Lubuntu (LXDE) a bit TOO minimalistic depending on what you do with your PC
[11:18] <gordonjcp> Darknyss: it might be a bit faster
[11:19] <gordonjcp> Darknyss: it'll use less memory than Unity
[11:19] <Darknyss> dd_ I'd like to game, maybe possibly WINE functionality. Um.. I can't boot into Ubuntu 12.04 LTS atm because of an error of mounting file systems.
[11:19] <gordonjcp> however
[11:19] <spidernik84> I'd say xubuntu
[11:19] <Darknyss> So I'm debating.... wiping and starting over yet again.
[11:19] <spidernik84> not so extreme and kinda similar to gnome 2.0
[11:19] <gordonjcp> how quickly it "runs" isn't the only thing
[11:19] <gordonjcp> how quickly you get stuff done on it is most important
[11:19] <Darknyss>  gordon, agreed
[11:20] <gordonjcp> Darknyss: what's the error you're getting?
[11:20] <dd_> Darknyss: the best game experience I had was in Xubuntu! It was the only one opf the ubuntu family that let me come back on the desktop while the game was in the background and than rejoin the game
[11:20] <Darknyss> gordonjcp, Something alone the lines of... failed to mount file system type in the root password or Ctrl+D to continue,.
[11:20] <Darknyss> dd_, Might give it a go.
[11:22] <TechnodicT_> Hello
[11:22] <gordonjcp> Darknyss: so, why not do that then?
[11:23] <TechnodicT_> Ssup?
[11:23] <Darknyss> gordonjcp, Ctrl+D brings the same screen back up. Typing in the root password takes me to the console to manage..
[11:23] <Darknyss> gordonjcp, after rebooting the error came out of the blue and it's getting to be irritating.
[11:23] <gordonjcp> yeah
[11:24] <gordonjcp> so you type in the password, and then run fdisk, like it says
[11:24] <Darknyss> gordonjcp, yes. no errors. but it doesn't solve the issue.
[11:25] <gordonjcp> Darknyss: paste the error verbatim
[11:25] <gordonjcp> Darknyss: take a photo of the screen if you have to
[11:25] <solofight> people ive been using ssh with rsa key for several months now - all of sudden my ssh connect command wont work. ends up saying permission denied
[11:25] <solofight> i did a -v and i got this
[11:25] <solofight> http://pastebin.com/tHj3xPdc
[11:25] <Darknyss> filesystem check or mount failed
[11:25] <solofight> anyidea why this sudden change in behavior ?
[11:26] <Darknyss> If I reboot to get to it, I have to reinstall xchat etc. I'm on a live CD atm.
[11:26] <gordonjcp> Darknyss: wait, what?
[11:26] <dr_willis> freenode has a web based irc chat also Darknyss
[11:26] <Darknyss> gordonjcp, ??
[11:26] <Darknyss> dr_willis, didn't know that
[11:27] <gordonjcp> Darknyss: the live CD is giving you that error?
[11:27] <Darknyss> gordonjcp, No.
[11:27] <gordonjcp> oh wait, no, shut up Gordon, I see what you mean
[11:27] <dr_willis> and the live cd's im client can do irc
[11:27] <Darknyss> dr_willis, also good to know.
[11:32] <Darknyss> gordon, so what to do?
[11:32] <solofight> why nobody replying !
[11:32] <solofight> is it that very trivial that am asking it here ?
[11:33] <bazhang> !helpme | solofight
[11:33] <solofight> !repeat
[11:34] <nibbler_> solofight, did you check serverlogs?
[11:34] <Bastian_B> I've install the ubuntu 9.04 and I did updates, a year later (this week) I installer the upgrade up to 12.04. Now my computer is overheating, anybody has a suggestion on what to disable to reduce cpu and graphic usage?
[11:34] <solofight> nibbler_, i checked /var/log/ and see if it had ssh but none
[11:34] <zorbama> Hello, I need help using xsetewacom to configure my Wacom tablet's buttons. The GUI's button mapping option does not seem to work, and I'm having a hard time understanding how to configure it through the command like
[11:34] <solofight> nibbler_, which log to check ?
[11:34] <zorbama> command line*
[11:36] <hackeridis> hi all if you are having problems with the network after an update follow these instructions http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2001421
[11:37] <nibbler_> solofight, /var/log/syslog
[11:37] <hackeridis> and do not update any network services until bug is fixed
[11:37] <hfic> hackeridis, sounds like you resolved your issue?
[11:38] <jolaren> My webcam has taken alot of photos on my HDD.. which is good because it's a survaillance camera, the problem is that I've removed all the .jpgs from the folder.. and I've also cleaned the paperbin but I still get prompted with this; Usage of /:   93.6% of 295.98GB................ What am I doing wrong?
[11:39] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[11:39] <ShapeShifter499> super fast way to copy everything from a ntfs patition to a folder on a fat partition using ubuntu?
[11:39] <hackeridis> yes and when i updated i had the same problem but the answer is here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2001421
[11:39] <nibbler_> ShapeShifter499, cp
[11:39] <fidel> cp --superfast ;)
[11:39] <ShapeShifter499> xD
[11:39] <geirha> jolaren: Well, probably something else is using up alot of space
[11:39] <hfic> fidel, lawl
[11:39] <ShapeShifter499> ah ok
[11:40] <ShapeShifter499> nothings better then cp I guess
[11:40] <hackeridis> i told you i would be back with the answer and i will post so i hope the link will help anybody who had a problem thankyou
[11:40] <fidel> ShapeShifter499: i guess there is no real voodoo in this field - besides remembering that fat has some limits ntfs hasnt - which might break the copy-progress
[11:41] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:42] <hackeridis> hfic here is the link if anybody needs it for future needs or help so you can post it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2001421
[11:42] <root_> hello
[11:42] <hackeridis> see ya all later
[11:43] <jolaren> geirha: Well, yes.. I pulled find / -name '*' -size +1G and the output = http://pastebin.com/nZmxV0fn
[11:43] <zorbama> I need help using xsetewacom to configure my Wacom tablet's buttons. The GUI's button mapping option does not seem to work, and I'm having a hard time understanding how to configure it through the command line
[11:44] <hackeridis> hfic: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2001421 this is the link that helped me solve my network problem after an update in ubuntu 12.04
[11:44] <hackeridis> bye for now
[11:44] <SvenHH> Hi all, does anyone know of known problem (and solution?)  of the current nvidia driver 304.43 with ubuntu 3d?
[11:45] <geirha> jolaren: so how large are those files? something's apparently spamming your root account's mailbox, and syslog
[11:47] <geirha> jolaren: This command will give an overview of disk usage on the upper directories:  sudo du -xm --max-depth=1 /
[11:51] <ebs512> hey guys I need some help
[11:51] <ebs512> !paste
[11:51] <ebs512> can someone help me with this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1183384/
[11:53] <ThinkT510> ebs512: you've added repos?
[11:54] <ebs512> I had installed 3.5 and I was trying to downgrade to 3.4 so I uninstalled the previous package and now it isnt allowing me to install
[11:55] <ThinkT510> ebs512: why did you install 3.5?
[11:55] <ebs512> I thought it would work, but apparently has an issue with ubuntu 12.04
[11:56] <ThinkT510> ebs512: we can only support what is in the repo
[11:56] <xantheon> Error "ghc: can't find a package database at" ... Ubuntu 12.04 ... any idea ?
[11:56] <zelrik> Oo
[11:57] <xantheon> It's the AMD64 version of Ubuntu 12.04
[11:57] <ebs512> so how do I get back to what is in the repo?
[11:57] <ThinkT510> ebs512: installing an entire desktop environment from outside the repos is bound to cause dependency issues
[11:58] <escapeplan> Can anyone help me configure xcompmgr ?
[12:01] <velho> hrondex899, I just whant to Update Arandr from 1.4 to 1.6
[12:06] <pfarrell> it seems there's a bug in the quantal slepc package: where should I report it?
[12:06] <ThinkT510> !12.10 | pfarrell
[12:07] <pfarrell> thanks
[12:07] <hassi> #ubuntu-de
[12:09] <velho> how can I Update Arandr from 1.4 to 1.6 ??
[12:10] <ichdasich> heho
[12:10] <ichdasich> i currently try to set up a ubuntu 12.04 desktop with awesome and urxvt.
[12:10] <DjamOlsky> hi all
[12:10] <somsip> velho: 0.1.4 to 0.1.6? Official repo is 0.1.4 so you'd have to go to a PPA https://launchpad.net/~chrysn/+ppa-packages
[12:10] <ichdasich> if i use vim in urxvt and try to type utf8 characters, they get distorted. any ideas on this?
[12:10] <somsip> !ppa | velho
[12:12] <jolish> My Harddrive is 98 % filled. I thought It was the 140 gig of .jpgs on the computer but it wasn't connected to the survaillance camera but probarbly to http://pastebin.com/nZmxV0fn .. when I try to open /var/mail/log my computer hangs, what to do?
[12:13] <Dreadtower> My computer was off this morning when I woke
[12:13] <Dreadtower> There must've been a power outage in thenight
[12:14] <Dreadtower> Anyway, it's fired up into 640 x 400 graphics mode, and won't reset to 1366 x 768
[12:14] <equex> is there any way to gracefully disable this 'unity' and get classic gnome back, or do i need to just install it trough synaptic (if i can find it lol) and remove unity manually (i read that you cannot remove all of it or you will destroy the system, but i will try) or is it a hopeless project and should i just go for MATE or something ?
[12:14] <Dreadtower> Any ideas
[12:14] <somsip> !nounity | equex
[12:14] <soderluk> Hi there, I'm running a turnkey linux virtual machine with ubuntu 10.04 on it. It has OpenSSH 5.3p1-3ubuntu7 installed on it, but I'd like to upgrade to 5.7. Running apt-get upgrade openssh tells me there's nothing to update. What do I need to do to upgrade from 5.3 to 5.7?
[12:16] <yeats> soderluk: why would you need to upgrade to that version, if you don't mind my asking?
[12:16] <yeats> !info openssh-server lucid
[12:16] <equex> where do i even get to synaptic in unity ? or a shell even ?
[12:16] <equex> what on earth are they thinking
[12:16] <yeats> equex: synaptic is no longer installed by default - you can do Ctrl-Alt-T to get to the terminal
[12:17] <equex> ah
[12:17] <equex> i see
[12:17] <equex> no package manager by default right
[12:17] <yeats> equex: software center
[12:17] <yeats> equex: (or apt-get)
[12:17] <soderluk> yeats: well, versions prior to 5.7 might be affected by a few vulnerabilities... such as CVE-2010-4478 and CVE-2012-0814
[12:18] <somsip> soderluk: So you'd need to go to a PPA. I've found 1:5.9 here if that's a starting point? https://launchpad.net/~cjwatson/+archive/openssh
[12:19] <somsip> soderluk: it appears to be maintained by whoever maintains the official package too: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/ucgi/~cjwatson/blosxom/ubuntu/2010-05-10-openssh-5.5p1-for-lucid.html
[12:20] <soderluk> somsip: thanks mate for that :)
[12:21] <soderluk> so apparently no 5.7 version is going to be found for 10.04 from the sources
[12:21] <insomniaSalt> hi #ubuntu, can I safely use "dd" to create bootable pendrives instead of usb-creator/unetbootin?
[12:22] <NiteRain> Hi, I am trying to connect to verizon via my gobi2000 card.  I have installed the firmware and and network-manager sees the card, when I try to set up the provider, I run through the wizard it seems to only give me options for their 4G network.  So I click other, but it still requires me to enter an APN,  the information I have read mention nothing about 3g having an APN.
[12:22] <viliny> Hello everyone, i was sitting here bored thinking about things. With windows 8 and the notorius metro ui around the corner im really thinking about switching my main desktop to linux completely.
[12:23] <viliny> Where are we with microsoft allowing directx on linux?
[12:23] <Queops> directx what...
[12:23] <Queops> linux is perfectly capable of running high end games
[12:24] <Queops> just needs a good graphics card and drivers
[12:24] <OerHeks>   directX is part of Wine. only if you need wine.
[12:24] <viliny> Are you refering to Wine and dx9 emulation/not-emulation?
[12:25] <viliny> or games running opengl?
[12:25] <OerHeks> what is your ubuntu support question, viliny ?
[12:25] <Auzy> viliny, there is no DirectX api for Linux..
[12:25] <Auzy> viliny, That being said, there are alternatives, such as OpenGL
[12:26] <viliny> im well aware of that, i was just wondering if anyone knew about anything new on that front. nevermind.
[12:26] <Auzy> viliny, Wine can run Windows DirectX games, however, the biggest improvemernt for gaming on Linux will be Steam for Linux, which has been officially announced
[12:26] <Queops> I can't wait for it
[12:26] <Queops> :D
[12:26] <viliny> Auzy: now thats pretty close to what i was hoping to hear, thank you
[12:27] <Auzy> viliny, thing is, even if someone ports the DirectX API for linux, it will never be compliant with the latest standard, and the windows API wont work
[12:27] <Queops> viliny: be very excited! I heard it's soon rather than later
[12:27] <Queops> probably at the end of the year
[12:27] <Auzy> So.. since Windows games use the windows API so much, you'd have to mostly port the whole OS..
[12:27] <viliny> i've been running a lot of games on wine in the past, but it's not fun sitting on the edge of your chair hoping that the game won't crash when you doing something on a competetive online game
[12:27] <viliny> eve-online etc.
[12:27] <Queops> well eve online
[12:27] <Queops> depends totally on CCP
[12:28] <viliny> they had official linux support through wine-related shenanigans but they decided not to maintain it officially anymore
[12:28] <Auzy> If Ubuntu plays their cards right, they can succeed with Gaming eventually..
[12:28] <agus_sintang> selamat datang
[12:28] <Auzy> hi agus_sintang
[12:28] <Dreadtower> I am totally stuck in 640 x 400: can anyone help
[12:28] <agus_sintang> hi Auzy
[12:29] <Dreadtower> It was 1366 x 768 un til last night
[12:29] <Auzy> Dreadtower, need more info..
[12:29] <Dreadtower> OK
[12:29] <viliny> Yeah, but microsoft has the market by the genitals with directx and all things related, it's sad that i have to resort to windows for a uncrippled gaming experience - so i came here to back and forth with you guys and hear if theres any news on that front
[12:29] <Dreadtower> xrandr is reporting no gamma round and 640 x 400
[12:29] <Dreadtower> no gamma found
[12:30] <theadmin> Dreadtower: Which video drivers are you using?
[12:30] <Auzy> viliny, There is a good reason for that though..
[12:30] <Dreadtower> I don;t know!
[12:30] <Queops> viliny: for the next years, me and you will be dual booting for gaming still
[12:30] <Dreadtower> The ones that were set up by Ubuntu/KDE
[12:30] <theadmin> Dreadtower: Please pastebin the output of "lsmod"
[12:30] <xorma> Hi, can someone tell me how I can define "Acquire::http::No-Cache true;" in a preseed file?
[12:31] <Auzy> viliny, It's not because MS bribes them, its the simple things in Ubuntu that stil need work..
[12:31] <viliny> Auzy, what specificly?
[12:31] <equex> viliny: both valve and id have now proven that OpenGL engines are viable and now, the OpenCL will gain traction. It now even has Nvidia people onboard.
[12:31] <viliny> equex: excellent
[12:31] <Queops> I love nvidia
[12:31] <viliny> i'm 26 and my first games had opengl support
[12:32] <Auzy> viliny, Simple things.. Like, the fact that we can't even decide on a Sound daemon, and it regularly changes
[12:32] <Queops> and many more..
[12:32] <Queops> i still dont like the overlay scrollbars, personal opinion
[12:32] <Auzy> In fact, remember Devicekit?
[12:32] <Queops> taste*
[12:32] <viliny> i really hated... whats it called... unity
[12:32] <equex> i just hope people come to their senses about unity
[12:33] <equex> they just need to get that out of the mainline distro *now*
[12:33] <Auzy> Unity can improve long term..Once again, the issue with Unity, gnome and all that, is simple stuff is still missing..
[12:33] <gordonjcp> Auzy: things change
[12:33] <gordonjcp> Auzy: we work out better ways of doing stuff
[12:34] <Auzy> gordonjcp, Like, automounting SMB shares?
[12:34] <theadmin> equex: Ubuntu provides many alternatives. There are plans on an official GNOME-Shell-based version too.
[12:34] <veryape> hrm, i actually likes unity now after giving it a new chance with 12.04
[12:34] <viliny> but gnomes been out forever, in various versions... isn't the main point of open source that people can contribute and progress goes faster?
[12:34] <gordonjcp> Auzy: I don't use SMB but surely authentication would be a factor there?
[12:34] <equex> theadmin: i am just saing unity should be an alternative, not the default
[12:34] <Queops> theadmin: not only there are plans, there's an alpha already :P
[12:34] <Auzy> gordonjcp, Or, the fact that when loading a GUI app which is missing a SO file, there is no error saying so.. It just never loads.. No feedback
[12:34] <gordonjcp> Auzy: how often does that happen?
[12:35] <theadmin> equex: I don't mind it being the default long as the ISOs with other desktops are provided, and they are.
[12:35] <gordonjcp> Auzy: and, how often does that happen *because you've been dicking about with things you should leave alone*?
[12:35] <viliny> Auzy: been a while since i fiddled under the hood, whats an so file?
[12:35] <theadmin> Queops: You mean there's such for Quantal?
[12:35] <Auzy> Quite a lot on apps which are 3 years old, which aren't on the repos.. Affected a lot of Humble Bundle games
[12:35] <gordonjcp> viliny: a library file
[12:35] <Auzy> viliny, Shared Library.. like a .dll
[12:35] <gordonjcp> viliny: ".so" stands for Shared Object
[12:35] <viliny> roger
[12:35] <Queops> When games start coming to linux at a good rate it's gonna be a .so nightmare, look at Desura, cant run half of the games
[12:35] <Queops> theadmin: yep, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ReleaseNotes#Download_the_Alpha
[12:36] <Queops> Reminder: alpha, bugs :]
[12:36] <flan_suse> How do you fix the problem when it says that ALL your packages are "Installed (manual)" when in fact that's not true?
[12:36] <viliny> oh i have desura... but i only got that for this one zombie survival game that i can't remember the name of
[12:36] <NiteRain> haha, I guess beta bugs  are easier to work with?
[12:36] <viliny> Hopefully that'll standardise so the average user won't have problems like you described
[12:37] <theadmin> Queops: I know, not gonna use it (I'm very much of a KDE person), but I'm surprised they got it going so soon :)
[12:37] <Queops> theadmin: same!
[12:37] <AdvoWork> how can i tell if an install is server or non-server? cat /etc/issue doesn't say
[12:37] <Queops> theadmin: same, as for the going so soon part
[12:37] <Auzy> AdvoWork, does it have Xwindows?
[12:37] <Queops> viliny: I think you mean atom zombie smasher
[12:37] <AdvoWork> Auzy, not sure, only have cli access to it
[12:37] <Queops> That one runs well
[12:38] <equex> theadmin: im just afraid now that gaming just has a chance of taking off on linux, we now just suddenly toss everything around. i know a lot of people in the wild that just got used to version 8,9 and 10 after ditching windows vista and now they have UI experiments thrown at them both from Ubuntu mainline and Metro
[12:38] <viliny> Queops: no, not that one - this was an indy game where you run around boarding up houses and scavenging for items, isometric
[12:38] <Auzy> AdvoWork, if you type startx.. chances are, its GUI.. if you only have CLI, and its on a VPS, again, likely its server
[12:38] <Queops> viliny: oh, I dont remember the name of that one
[12:38] <Queops> reboot brb
[12:39] <equex> what people want is something that looks like XP and launches games.
[12:39] <Dreadtower> theadmin http://paste.ubuntu.com/1183437/
[12:39] <gordonjcp> equex: why?
[12:39] <Auzy> I disagree equex.. What they want is something they can use full time, and everything to be solvable via the GUI..
[12:39] <gordonjcp> equex: I think what you mean is "what I want is..."
[12:40] <studente> wej
[12:40] <gordonjcp> most people don't give a toss what their OS looks like
[12:40] <equex> gordonjcp exactly
[12:40] <theadmin> equex, gordonjcp: Offtopic much, please continue this in a PM session or #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:40] <NiteRain> gordonjcp: then explain Mac OS?
[12:40] <gordonjcp> equex: XP is *horrible* to use
[12:40] <gordonjcp> NiteRain: what about it?
[12:40] <Auzy> offtopic then?
[12:40] <gordonjcp> Auzy: yeah, very much so!
[12:40] <studente> who intends on server metin2?
[12:41] <equex> discussing unity is offtopic
[12:41] <theadmin> Dreadtower: Blah, not helpful... Sorry, don't see any familiar names
[12:41] <gordonjcp> equex: discussing unity *support* is on-topic
[12:41] <Dreadtower> theadmin: OK - thanks for looking
[12:41] <studente> who intends on server metin2?
[12:41] <studente> who intends on server metin2?
[12:41] <studente> who intends on server metin2?
[12:41] <FloodBot1> studente: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:42] <pritesh> how can i change splash screen in ubuntu 11.04
[12:43] <iLogical> I don't find this adobe-flash-properties-gtk package anywhere. what repos I need to add? http://askubuntu.com/questions/90783/where-is-the-adobe-flash-player-settings-manager
[12:43] <Oranger> pritesh: What do you want to say by "splash screen" ?
[12:43] <thoong> you guys experiencing nouveau problems with newer kernels 3.4 -3.5? i m just trying to find if this is localized to a fedora or will it affect other distros >?
[12:44] <pritesh> Oranger splash logo that comes on booting time
[12:44] <Oranger> "Ubuntu" with the orange points ?
[12:44] <yeats> thoong: current ubuntu release is on 3.2 - you might try #ubuntu+1
[12:44] <thoong> thanks
[12:47] <iLogical> where do I find the repos with the package adobe-flash-properties-gtk ?
[12:48] <NiteRain> Having a problem with getting my broadband mobile card to connect to verizon.  I see the modem, just configuring it to connect  is a problem, most of the options it gives me is a 4G contract for the billing plan, and I am using 3G
[12:48] <theadmin> iLogical: Bookmark this page and use it instead: http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager02.html (it's the same thing)
[12:49] <pritesh> is any one tell me how to change the splash logo of ubuntu that comes during the booting up
[12:49] <flan_suse> How do you fix the problem when it says that ALL your packages are "Installed (manual)" when in fact that's not true?
[12:49] <iLogical> thanks theadmin
[12:49] <e66_> flan_suse: what exact error you are getting?
[12:50] <flan_suse> e66_: It's not a fatal error or anything, but it's messing up the status of my packages.
[12:50] <Sachiru> Hello! I would like to run Ubuntu Server in a VM, dedicated to running a server application written in Python. I woill provision it 4GB of RAM, and expect the server to not consume much, since everything else (database and associated services) are in separate VMs.
[12:50] <Sachiru> Would it be possible to not use a swap partition, so that I can easily backup the hard disk image of the VM?
[12:50] <flan_suse> e66_: Basically, nearly ALL my packages are considered "Installed (manual)" when that should only be reserved for non-repository .deb's such as games and manual downloads / installs.
[12:50] <flan_suse> e66_: But it's listing almost ALL packages under this status.
[12:51] <flan_suse> e66_: I tried the apt-mark auto trick, but that only changes them to "autoremovable"
[12:51] <KM0201> Sachiru: possible, but i would go ahead and put a swap partition just in case.. that's just me
[12:51] <Dreadtower> Well theadmin: 4 hours now and no way forward
[12:51] <Dreadtower> It looks like my installatin is wrecked
[12:52] <gyre007> how come I'm seeing 8 cores  in /proc/cpuinfo in Ubuntu when my server should only have 2 ?
[12:52] <KM0201> 4hrs?.. man, i have a rule, it only takes me about 25-30min to completely reinstall/restore my junk... so if it's longer than that, i reinstall.
[12:52] <KM0201> did the same thing w/ Windows for the most part.
[12:53] <Sachiru> Hmm.
[12:53] <Sachiru> What if I do this:
[12:53] <Sachiru> I'll create a dedicated disk image in a different directory which is then mounted only as swap.
[12:54] <Sachiru> That way, when I do incremental backup, I don't need to backup the 4gb swap partition every time.
[12:54] <KM0201> Sachiru: i was going to suggest that... just during the install, set the other disk image as the swap.. and you'll be done.
[12:54] <Sachiru> Cool, that works, thanks!
[12:55] <theadmin> Sachiru: You can make a swapfile, see this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1042946
[12:55] <Sachiru> While running the server, I've noticed that if the database and webserver were on different machines, the real machine hosting the server has practically no change in OS files except for swap partition.
[12:55] <Sachiru> That saves me 4gb per backup. Thanks, all!
[12:55] <Merwin> Guys, how can I "lock" my keyboard so I can clean it without hitting keys. I read keeping right "Shift" for 8s worked, but doesn't seem to work with unity
[12:55] <e66_> flan_suse: "Installed (manual)" on Synaptic means packages that you installed by yourself either by synaptic or apt-get
[12:55] <Merwin> (Yes, I know I can unplug it!)
[12:55] <alci> USC won't take my payment : Unable to load page
[12:56] <alci> Problem occurred while loading the URL https://ingdf.wlp-acs.com/acs-pa
[12:56] <alci> SSL handshake failed
[12:56] <BluesKaj> KM0201, Sachiru , what's the procedure for making a dir with a disk image for swap ?
[12:56] <flan_suse> e66_: Even from the official repositories?
[12:56] <Sachiru> Depends on what you use for virtualizing.
[12:56] <e66_> flan_suse: yes
[12:56] <flan_suse> e66_: I figured "Installed (manual)" is reserved for non-repo packages or manually installed .deb files.
[12:56] <KM0201> BluesKaj: hes' doing it w/ vmware.. so basically, make two virtual disks... you install, and when you installl, you set one virtual drive as /  and one as /swap
[12:57] <flan_suse> e66_: And besides, it's NOT true that I install all those packages manually. Most were part of the default install.
[12:57] <e66_> flan_suse: "installed (local or obsolete)" means what you have installed by .deb, .sh etc
[12:57] <Sachiru> I use VirtualBox, and I just create another disk image, placed in a separate directory, since my backup script copies the contents of my vm images repository.
[12:57] <KM0201> BluesKaj: that maks it where he can back up the image of his server, w/o constantly backing up the swap partition as well (that seems to be his goal)
[12:57] <BluesKaj> ok KM0201 ...I should ahve scrolled up for more info
[12:57] <Sachiru> ^^ Yes, that's exactly my goal.
[12:58] <flan_suse> e66_: For instance, how come it lists alsa-utils as manual? Among all those other default packages?
[12:58] <KM0201> Sachiru: thats actually a pretty good idea, i've ran servers on Vbox before, and wouldn't have thought of that
[12:59] <Sachiru> Yeah, if you segregate VMs so that one contains database, one contains webserver and one contains the VM with the app that rarely changes.
[12:59] <KM0201> yup.
[12:59] <KM0201> it'll make backing up much easier.
[12:59] <Sachiru> You can just backup the DB VM and the Webserver VM every month, the static VM once, and discard swap disks.
[13:00] <Sachiru> Plus, if the database dies, restoring that service's VM is much faster than restoring a monolithic VM that contains everything.
[13:00] <e66_> flan_suse: did you install anything related to sound from command line?
[13:00] <e66_> flan_suse:  it could be that
[13:00] <flan_suse> e66_: Nope.
[13:00] <flan_suse> e66_: I read bug reports about this, for people that noticed this on a fresh install.It's just kind of inconsistent.
[13:01] <flan_suse> e66_: Not too major, but thanks anyways.
[13:01] <e66_> I also see that in my package list
[13:01] <Sachiru> I have that scripted as well, actually. If the nginx VM dies for some reason, my script restores the last known good disk image of the nginx vm and reboots the vm.
[13:01] <flan_suse> e66_: Same installed (manual) status for 1,000+ packages?
[13:01] <e66_> I also see some packages that I didn't installed.
[13:01] <e66_> yes
[13:02] <e66_> But I see very few packages that I didn't install.
[13:02] <flan_suse> e66_: Actually, there is a problem.
[13:02] <flan_suse> e66_: Because it ruins which packages are "autoremovable" if you remove the parent package.
[13:03] <flan_suse> Say I install an application, like vlc, but later want to remove it. If I remove it, all it's extra packages (pulled in from later) will remain on my system, and they won't be labeled autoremovable.
[13:03] <e66_> I think some packages are automatically installed as dependency to other packages. And this packages should be in autoremovable, but took place in  "Installed Manual)
[13:04] <Queops> What a mess :)
[13:04] <flan_suse> Agreed.
[13:04] <flan_suse> There's no option or anything to just reset the package statuses.
[13:05] <AdvoWork> how can you add old repositories for old-releases to the sources list? I see various folders, but i see -backports -proposed -security -updates etc,  and not sure which one
[13:07] <pritesh> koi h
[13:08] <Dreadtower> Thx fo ryour help theadmin. Imanagaed to get the recovery modeule running (with the mouse available) and fix
[13:08] <Queops> flan_suse: /var/log/apt/history.log should show all kinds of non-sense that probably happened to your apt
[13:08] <theadmin> Dreadtower: But now your keyboard seems broken
[13:08] <pritesh> is any one please help me how to change splash logo in ubuntu 11.04
[13:08] <Dreadtower> No - it's cool
[13:08] <Dreadtower> Why do you say that?
[13:08] <flan_suse> Queops: Will check itout.
[13:09] <Queops> apt-cache depends -i somepackage | cut -f 2 -d ':' | tr '\n' ' '.
[13:09] <Queops> this should show all dependencies of a package in a nice form
[13:09] <Queops> flan_suse: i thought it might be useful
[13:09] <SAngeli_> I have a mdadm question: with two disks, raid-1 before creating the array is it necessary to first create a partition in one of the two hd or can this be skipped?
[13:09] <Queops> so you can purge the packages easily.
[13:10] <flan_suse> Queops: is that last period required?
[13:10] <Queops> flan_suse: I took it from askubuntu.com, it should.
[13:10] <Calinou> yes
[13:10] <Calinou> . = current directory
[13:10] <flan_suse> SAngeli: Might as well create a partition on each disk that takes the entire space for each, and use the software raid type/label for the partitions. Then do the rest...
[13:12] <Queops> brb reboot
[13:12] <flan_suse> SAngeli: /dev/sdb1 + /dev/sdc1 = /dev/md0 (raid1)............ sdb1 and sdc1 are software raid partitions
[13:13] <flan_suse> BBL
[13:13] <amr_> hello, is there a copy of ubuntu which by default provide gnome 3.4 desktop?
[13:13] <KM0201> weird, i didn't know t-bird had a built in IRC client.
[13:14] <KM0201> amr_: not to my knowledge.
[13:14] <DJones> KM0201: I think it comes with the latest version of Thunderbird, only recently added from memory
[13:15] <KM0201> DJones: i dunno, this is the version of tbird i've always had.. just happened to notice it.
[13:16] <Ken8521> the fonts kinda suck.
[13:16] <Ken8521> i imagine i could figure out a way to change that if i wanted
[13:16] <amr_> if I install new copy of ubutnu 12 then install the gnome from software center ,I will have it just working or other stuff need to be handled ?
[13:16] <MonkeyDust> amr_  you mean gnome-shell?
[13:16] <Ken8521> amr_: it *should* work... i don't like 3.x so i've not tried it
[13:17] <Nekura> Anybody have any suggestions for loadbalancing software?
[13:17] <amr_> MonkeyDust: yes
[13:17] <Psi-Jack> Hmmm I've been experiencing a LOT of crashes in Ubuntu 12.04 lately, like no tomorrow. automount, chrome, skype, etc... Just all over the place.
[13:17] <KM0201> hmm, weird
[13:18] <smartmobili> hi
[13:18] <theadmin> Psi-Jack: Sounds like something serious broke, might a glib/kernel thing
[13:18] <gordonjcp> Psi-Jack: smells like hardware
[13:18] <KM0201> yup.
[13:18] <theadmin> s/glib/libc/
[13:18] <Psi-Jack> gordonjcp: It's not hardware.
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> amr_  just install it and get used to it -- (i don't like/use it myself)
[13:18] <gordonjcp> Psi-Jack: how can you be so sure?
[13:18] <smartmobili> I have one problem, I am using ubuntu natty and it seems my /lib/init/upstart-job script is empty. Is is normal ?
[13:18] <OerHeks> Psi-Jack, do a memtest86
[13:18] <Psi-Jack> OerHeks: Already did. Checked out perfectly fine.
[13:19] <smartmobili> Hi by the way
[13:19] <Psi-Jack> I'm wonderfing if somehow using aptitude, instead of apt-get is causing some package related corruption of sorts.
[13:19] <amr_> Ken8521: and the unity will steal exists too
[13:19] <theadmin> Psi-Jack: Yep... Aptitude is broken (on 64-bit systems at least)
[13:20] <theadmin> Psi-Jack: That's why Ubuntu no longer includes it by default on 64-bit ISOs
[13:20] <BobDobalina> Is it better to use Aptitude or Apt-Get?
[13:20] <opieng> hello all, I have installed Ubuntu. I had Win 7 installed on my SDD and installed Ubuntu 12.04 on my HDD, I try to boot from where I installed Ubuntu, but I can't see to get to the OS Selector during boot up (I think its called the Grub?)
[13:20] <BluesKaj> KM0201, I just found the irc client in thunderbird as well , in tools/chat status ..neat :)
[13:20] <Psi-Jack> theadmin: Yeah, so I recall hearing, but could it cause the all this problem?
[13:20] <OerHeks> !aptitude
[13:20] <Psi-Jack> theadmin: it comes default for server, just not for desktop.
[13:21] <KM0201> BluesKaj: lol, well i don't feel quite so stupid now... all this time checking my email and never seeing that big "CHAT" button
[13:21] <theadmin> Psi-Jack: Maybe, yes, aptitude can cause serious issues with 64-bit (multiarch)
[13:21] <hfic> !grub | opieng
[13:21] <Psi-Jack> theadmin: Is there a viable fix to repair it? My desktop system at work isn't experiencing these problems, but my home system is, and it's really frustrating.
[13:21] <opieng> ummm but I installed Ubuntu after windows.. does that matter?
[13:22] <Psi-Jack> theadmin: I noticed it first with just Chrome tabs constantly dying, randomly, not it's gotten to the point where many other things do it, like skype.
[13:22] <smartmobili> ok : trying again to ask my question : it seems my /lib/init/upstart-job script is empty. Is is normal ?
[13:22] <KM0201> Psi-Jack: i'd suspect a RAM issue, but thats just me.
[13:23] <KM0201> or try a clean install
[13:23] <Psi-Jack> KM0201: It's pretty new RAM still, and memtest86 passed 48 hours non-stop testing.
[13:23] <KM0201> hmm
[13:23] <theadmin> Psi-Jack: Unfortunately, I have no idea how to fix it... Unless you find a way to reinstall each and every package, using apt-get
[13:23] <smartmobili> so when I try something like /etc/init.d/vsftpd stop nothing happens (since vsftpd is just a link to upstart-job)
[13:23] <opieng> anyone?
[13:23] <Psi-Jack> theadmin: That's plausible.
[13:23] <KM0201> smartmobili: try "sudo service vsftpd stop"
[13:24] <theadmin> Psi-Jack: I'd say "emerge -DN world" if it were Gentoo ;)
[13:24] <smartmobili> it works
[13:24] <KM0201> smartmobili: although i think that command you listed should work as well... just make sure you're using "sudo" with it.
[13:24] <smartmobili> I am root
[13:24] <Psi-Jack> theadmin: Actually, I was thinking: for pkg in `dpkg --get-selections | awk '{print $1}' | egrep -v '(dpkg|apt|mysql|mythtv)'` ; do apt-get -y --force-yes install --reinstall $pkg ; done
[13:24]  * KM0201 sighs
[13:25] <smartmobili> could someone with natty checks if this upstart-job is empty or not
[13:25] <theadmin> Psi-Jack: Well that's one hell of a command, also it might fail since I think "dpkg --get-selections" outputs some sort of a header before the actual package names
[13:25] <smartmobili> just curious to know
[13:25] <user> q
[13:25] <AdvoWork> im trying to install a package, and it says Package is not available but is referred to by another package, how can I find out what package so I can get it?
[13:26] <Psi-Jack> theadmin: Not that I see it doesn't.
[13:26] <opieng> Does this still apply if I installed Ubuntu after Windows 7 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub
[13:26] <theadmin> Psi-Jack: Okay, than I guess you could give that a try. At your own risk of course.
[13:26] <Psi-Jack> Of course. ;)
[13:26] <KM0201> opieng: it shouldn't... that's for if you install windows 7 after ubuntu
[13:27] <Psi-Jack> My setup's pretty easy though, /home is on a separate partition. /'s on SSD.
[13:27] <MonkeyDust> opieng  1st windows, then ubuntu
[13:27] <Psi-Jack> Hmm
[13:27] <opieng> KH Any suggestions for solving my problem?
[13:27] <pawan> Is the Debian irc down?
[13:27] <KM0201> opieng: i didn't see you mention a problem...
[13:27] <opieng> MonkeyDust, thats what I did
[13:27] <nzerox> hey guys
[13:27] <nzerox> i'm having the following issue with openct
[13:27] <nzerox> Error: can't open /var/run/openct/status: Permission denied
[13:27] <nzerox> can anyone help?
[13:28] <KM0201> pawan: works fine for me...are you identified?
[13:28] <opieng> KM0201, "I have installed Ubuntu. I had Win 7 installed on my SDD and installed Ubuntu 12.04 on my HDD, I try to boot from where I installed Ubuntu, but I can't see to get to the OS Selector during boot up"
[13:28] <MonkeyDust> pawan  i'm in #debian now, so no
[13:28] <pawan> KM0201: How to do that?
[13:28] <KM0201> !identify | pawan
[13:28] <KM0201> !register | pawan
[13:29] <KM0201> pawan: when you installed, wherre did you install grub?
[13:29] <KM0201> woopps, opieng when you installed, where did you install grub?
[13:30] <13WABHP8E> hi all
[13:30] <13WABHP8E> May I know how to install vim in arch linux?
[13:30] <KM0201> !arch
[13:30] <opieng> KM0201, Pretty sure it was on my HDD, same place I installed Ubuntu.
[13:30] <pawan> I'm very new to irc. I can connect to #debian on freenode
[13:30] <KM0201> hmm
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> 13WABHP8E  better ask in #arch
[13:30] <pawan> I tried the default address given in XChat
[13:30] <pawan> Didn't work
[13:30] <gordonjcp> 13WABHP8E: you could ask in #arch
[13:31] <BluesKaj> !arch| 13WABHP8E
[13:31] <pawan> That's the one they gave on their official site
[13:31] <MonkeyDust> 13WABHP8E  wrong chennel, this is ubuntu support
[13:31] <KM0201> opieng: did you sett he hdd as first in your boot sequence?
[13:31] <Psi-Jack> Alrighty.. Trying an in-place reinstall of packages now.
[13:31] <KM0201> opieng: the ubuntu server is the same as the freenode server
[13:32] <theadmin> 13WABHP8E: pacman -Syu vim or pacman -Syu gvim for the GUI version. The Arch channel is #archlinux by the way.
[13:32] <KM0201> so debian is the same channel on both
[13:32] <szal> 13WABHP8E, MonkeyDust, gordonjcp: it's #archlinux
[13:32] <opieng> I try booting from both SSD and HDD first and they both don't pick up the grub2? I work them first day I installed, but now it seems the Grub2 is lost?
[13:32] <pawan> KM201, Okay
[13:32] <KM0201> pawan: like i said, i suspect you're not identified, because i'm there now w/ no problem (on the ubuntu server)
[13:33] <lordnoid> ive got ubuntu and windows on seperate fakeraid arrays. I can boot to ubuntu, but i cant boot to windows. Grub doesnt see it and i have no idea what the root is supposed to be with names like /dev/mapper/...
[13:33] <mickymills> hi fans, I am having some trouble on Ubuntu 12 where the trackpad freezes. unloading and reloading using modprobe reinstates the trackpad. the error seems to come up using java dependent apps like firefox and libreoffice
[13:33] <MonkeyDust> pawan  it's not the channel, it's you
[13:33] <opieng> KM0201, what do you mean freenode is on the same server?
[13:33] <Psi-Jack> lordnoid: fakeraid is bad, m'kay? Don't use it.
[13:34] <KM0201> opieng: that wasn't for you.
[13:34] <user> hm
[13:34] <mickymills> lordnoid > what version of Windows?
[13:34] <MonkeyDust> opieng  type /join #freenode to find out
[13:34] <opieng> oh
[13:34] <lordnoid> Psi-Jack, there's not really another option for dualboot
[13:34] <lordnoid> mickymills, 7
[13:34] <Psi-Jack> lordnoid: Of course there is.
[13:34] <opieng> So any suggestion on where my Grub2 has gone?
[13:34] <Psi-Jack> lordnoid: There's /ALWAYS/ a better option than using fakeraid, 100% of the time.
[13:34] <pawan> MonkeyDust: I connected to the Debian channel on freenode. Thank you :)
[13:34] <lordnoid> Psi-Jack, tell me
[13:35] <mickymills> ubuntu 12 worked out of the box with my windows 7 install, but its not grub I know that!
[13:35] <KM0201> opieng: have no idea.. like i said, my first guess is it didn't get installed properly or something.
[13:35] <KM0201> !grub
[13:35] <Psi-Jack> lordnoid: What's your current raid setup looking like?
[13:35] <KM0201> opieng: try following the instructions in that factoid to restore grub..
[13:35] <AdvoWork> i'm doing some work on an old server, and need to install libltdl3  but it says it is not available but is referred to by another package. any idea how I can manually install this?
[13:35] <lordnoid> Psi-Jack, 2 raid 0 arrays, 200GB and 1,8TB
[13:36] <gyre007> im wondering how should I set the thresholds for monitoring the load...I have 4 cores
[13:36] <opieng> Ok I will try, hope it works
[13:36] <mickymills> anyone know any  trackpad persistent errors on ubuntu 12 using compaq?
[13:36] <Psi-Jack> lordnoid: So, 4 HDD's?
[13:36] <lordnoid> Psi-Jack, no, 2
[13:37] <lordnoid> Psi-Jack, short-stroking
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> !anyone > mickymills
[13:37] <Psi-Jack> Eh.... That's horrible.. Raid 0 is striping (spanning) only, and pretty much extremely pointless.. Why would you DO that?
[13:37] <gyre007> the highest load should be 4 right
[13:37] <lordnoid> Psi-Jack, raid 0 is striping, which is not spanning.
[13:38] <mickymills> hi fans, I am having some trouble on Ubuntu 12 where the trackpad freezes. unloading and reloading using modprobe reinstates the trackpad. the error seems to come up using java dependent apps like firefox and libreoffice
[13:38] <Psi-Jack> lordnoid: What's the physical HDD's?
[13:38] <lordnoid> Psi-Jack, two 1TB
[13:38] <mickymills> hi fans, I am having some trouble on Ubuntu 12 where the trackpad freezes. unloading and reloading using modprobe reinstates the trackpad. the error seems to come up using java dependent apps like firefox and libreoffice , whats the problem
[13:38] <gyre007> or am I missing saomething ?
[13:39] <Psi-Jack> lordnoid: Heck, with that, you have 2 HDD's. Use part of 1 to install Linux on, the other to install Windows on, and split the first as needed to share data between the two, if you don't do so with the second one anyway.
[13:39] <Psi-Jack> Dual-boot success.
[13:40] <lordnoid> Psi-Jack, true, but id rather keep my speed
[13:40] <Psi-Jack> You're not getting ANY speed hardly with a fakeraid.
[13:40] <lordnoid> Psi-Jack, I am.
[13:40] <Psi-Jack> And Linux itself certainly isn't using it at all.
[13:40] <Psi-Jack> lordnoid: No, really. You're not.
[13:41] <Psi-Jack> All you're doing is making the destruction of your data more possible. :p
[13:42] <lordnoid> Psi-Jack, I've tested it and the tranfer rate was 50MB/s higher
[13:42] <mrs_sheep> hello everybody - my system is unbootable due to "alloc magic is broken" - any ideas where i could find a solution? (google did not halpt too much this time) ?
[13:43] <theadmin> Psi-Jack: Tell me if it works (the reinstall every package thing), cause I'm interested
[13:43] <Psi-Jack> theadmin: Roger that. Will do. I'm watching it all now, still going. :)
[13:44] <Psi-Jack> theadmin: Up to the C's now. ;)
[13:44] <theadmin> Psi-Jack: You realize it's not installing them in alphabetical order but in dependency satisfaction order, right?
[13:45] <rahul_> question, is their con of duel boot ubuntu on the performance of the system?
[13:45] <Psi-Jack> theadmin: It's mostly doing it in alphabetical order, actually.
[13:45] <Psi-Jack> theadmin: Since all the dependencies themselves are already installed, it's just reinstalling everything in-place.
[13:46] <theadmin> Psi-Jack: Oh, right
[13:46] <Psi-Jack> heh
[13:46] <21WAAFEW9> Is bitcasa.com the best backup solution?
[13:46] <opieng> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub I can't seem to find the Boot-repair section. It seems like Ubunutu will reinstall? I am worried I will mess things up here
[13:47] <Psi-Jack> 21WAAFEW9: There is no "best" of anything. Best is a measure of your own personal and unique opinion of what you consider best for you, and could be in multiple different scenarios. It is more useful to ask more specific questions you have.
[13:47] <opieng> When I boot from the Ubuntu Installation CD that is
[13:49] <opieng> anyone?
[13:50] <21WAAFEW9> Backuping 3TB on a 10mbit connection, how long am I looking at?
[13:51] <user> hm
[13:52] <theadmin> 21WAAFEW9: 6990 hours, if my calculations are correct
[13:52] <Psi-Jack> Heh
[13:52] <JasperCoenraats> hello
[13:52] <Psi-Jack> Yep, theadmin
[13:53] <JasperCoenraats> somebody knows a program like photoshop for ubuntu?
[13:53] <21WAAFEW9> theadmin: So like, a few months?
[13:53] <gregoryfenton> JasperCoenraats, gimpshop
[13:53] <etz> Hello all
[13:53] <JasperCoenraats> tnhks
[13:53] <theadmin> 21WAAFEW9: Almost a year, actually >.<
[13:53] <mickymills> my trackpad stopped working and only started again after reloading using modprobe :(
[13:53] <etz> Is there a new version of Ubuntu out yet?
[13:53] <mickymills> its happening all the time
[13:54] <user14> In what order is it better to set /, swap and /home partitions?
[13:54] <mickymills> apart from that ubuntu rocks
[13:54] <deitrick> new version in october
[13:54] <21WAAFEW9> theadmin: How do people backup then?
[13:54] <theadmin> etz: The latest is 12.04, I don't know how you define "new". There is a new release approximately twice a year.
[13:54] <mickymills> luckily I still have a keyboard!
[13:54] <21WAAFEW9> 300gb takes a month?
[13:54] <Adie> there is a new version exactly twice a year
[13:54] <theadmin> 21WAAFEW9: You said tb
[13:54] <opieng> mickymills, ubuntu rocks except for when the Grub2 goes missing....
[13:54] <Adie> april and october
[13:54] <etz> What's the name of it?
[13:54] <theadmin> 21WAAFEW9: and 300 terabytes is a... lot.
[13:55] <deitrick> 12.10
[13:55] <mickymills> grub frustrates , it is very unforgiving
[13:55] <theadmin> etz: The name of 12.04 is "Precise Pangolin", the name of the latest unstable version is Quantal... something
[13:55] <21WAAFEW9> theadmin: I asked 3TB, you said a year, so I lowered my backup need because I don't have a year
[13:55] <etz> Is there a beta out yet?
[13:55] <hylian> etz: yeah, 12.10 has a beta release.
[13:56] <etz> Thanks the admin
[13:56] <deitrick> yup beta1
[13:56] <theadmin> 21WAAFEW9: Hm, well, your idea is convert info to megabits and divide by 10, you'll get seconds, then convert that to whatever's comfortable for you
[13:56] <opieng> mickymills, yes, its putting me off using Ubuntu altogether as a dual boot with windows 7
[13:57] <Psi-Jack> 21WAAFEW9: How do people backup? They buy backup equipment, most of the time, if their needs are huge. Such as a Drobo or some kind mass storage NAS unit.
[13:58] <simosx> opieng, there is an autorescue option for grub issues.
[13:58] <Psi-Jack> 3TB is quite a HUGE backup.
[14:00] <Psi-Jack> Hmmm
[14:00] <Psi-Jack> Getting these kind of warnings so far:
[14:00] <mickymills> opieng > I have had two encounters with Grub, and I fixed both by running grubupdate using the live cd-rom to boot from first hdd
[14:00] <Psi-Jack> dpkg: warning: parsing file '/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 26802 package 'gtk2-engines-pixbuf:i386': 'Depends' field, reference to 'libglib2.0-0': error in version: invalid character in version number
[14:00] <hylian> theadmin: quantal quetzel. I have no idea what that means though. :)
[14:00] <theadmin> hylian: It's always "Adjective Animal"
[14:01] <MonkeyDust> hylian  a quetzal is an exotic bird, like in quetzal coatl
[14:01] <opieng> mickymills, So what do I need to do? I have my orginal CD I installed Ubuntu with. Shall I boot from this?
[14:01] <opieng> How do I get to the grubupdate?
[14:02] <opieng> would really appreciate your help
[14:02] <theadmin> !restoregrub | opieng
[14:03] <mickymills> opieng > Interestingly I get a NTFS error everytime I boot but that is a windows taking over the MBR problem ALSO have a look at http://askubuntu.com/questions/24479/no-grub-after-installing-ubuntu-beside-windows-7
[14:04] <opieng> I get to stage 2 "Install and run Boot-Repair" but I can't find the boot repair option? Do I need to go past the option of selecting langauge - English etc?
[14:04] <opieng> What is the error msg?
[14:04] <theadmin> opieng: Yes, you need to click "Try Ubuntu" and then install the boot-repair tool...
[14:06] <opieng> mickymills, is it something like "error Prefix not set"
[14:07] <opieng> Ok... "Try Ubuntu without installing"....
[14:07] <MorganTheWretche> Okay, quick question; when is 12.10 being officially released?
[14:07] <mickymills> opieng: no its NTS File System Error ####
[14:07] <MorganTheWretche> Is there a solid release date?
[14:07] <Psi-Jack> MorganTheWretche: When it's ready.
[14:07] <theadmin> MorganTheWretche: 12.10 means "year 12 (2012), month 10 (october)"
[14:08] <MorganTheWretche> ahh, do you think it will be the 1st of October?
[14:08] <i7c> MorganTheWretche: 18.10.2012 i think
[14:08] <theadmin> MorganTheWretche: It's usually closer to the middle or end of the month
[14:08] <MorganTheWretche> Great, thank you
[14:09] <MorganTheWretche> Do you guys have a favourite Calendar app for syncing with Google Calendars?
[14:09] <Queops> Well I user thunderbird
[14:09] <Queops> I use*
[14:10] <Queops> with the calendar addon
[14:10] <MorganTheWretche> Hm, guess I mean more of a standalone Calendar that sits on your desktop
[14:11] <Queops> I get what you mean, an integrated one would be nice
[14:11] <Queops> maybe one that syncs with ubuntuone
[14:11] <Psi-Jack> theadmin: Welp. progress continues.. Up to gnu* ;)
[14:11] <MorganTheWretche> Yeah, see, I have my entire university timetable laid out in real time on Google Calendars. It'd be nice to have it sit there
[14:12] <Queops> I use google calendar commonly aswell
[14:12] <MorganTheWretche> Yeah, it's pretty standard.  Thought it'd be common enough to be implemented in Linux
[14:14] <Queops> It's those little things that aren't on ubuntu and other distros
[14:14] <Queops> it will come with time..
[14:15] <user14> Anyone? In what order is it better to set /, swap and /home partitions?
[14:15] <MorganTheWretche> Wish I knew more about Linux programming, I could write my own Calendar application
[14:15] <Queops> user14: I believe it doesn't matter
[14:15] <cfhowlett> user14: agree with queops
[14:15] <Queops> MorganTheWretche: I would suggest trying to extend the already existing clock/calendar app
[14:15] <Queops> That would be epic ;)
[14:16] <Queops> with reminder notifications
[14:16] <user14> And is ext3 any better than ext4?
[14:16] <Queops> using the default notification system
[14:16] <MorganTheWretche> I would if I could write Linux programs.
[14:16] <cfhowlett> user14: no.  ext4 is the default.  unless you have a very good reason to deviate, i'd use it.
[14:17] <Queops> user14: yes, definitely use ext4, it has good new features
[14:17] <Queops> more reliable than ext3
[14:17] <Toph2> is there a file system in linux that windows can see if dual booting?
[14:17] <user14> And do I need to leave / 50 Gb or 30 Gb will be enough?
[14:17] <MorganTheWretche> FAT32?
[14:17] <theadmin> Toph2: NTFS, FAT and FAT32 are nice choices for crossplatform filesharing
[14:18] <opieng> ok repairing.... I hope this works!!!
[14:18] <cfhowlett> user14: default ubuntu install is only about 4 or 5 gigs
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> Toph2  what theadmin says, but don't install ubuntu on it
[14:18] <Toph2> oh, so you can use FAT, NTFS in Linux?
[14:18] <user14> *to leave root partition
[14:18] <Toph2> i see
[14:18] <Queops> Toph2: yes, but make a seperate partition for sharing
[14:18] <Queops> And Ubuntu can mount your windows partition.
[14:18] <Toph2> Queops,,, ok,, good point
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> Toph2  windows recognizes three OSs: windows, windows and windows
[14:18] <MorganTheWretche> *lightbulb* Is Python or Java preinstalled on Ubuntu distros? If so, I could write an application in those languages.
[14:19] <Queops> python is pre installed
[14:19] <Queops> java isnt
[14:19] <MorganTheWretche> ahh
[14:19] <velho> GOSH, I just wish the learning curve in linux was shorter...
[14:19] <Queops> MorganTheWretche: take a look http://developer.ubuntu.com/
[14:19] <MonkeyDust> velho  than what?
[14:19] <MorganTheWretche> thanks
[14:19] <Queops> Many informations there, specially if you follow links
[14:20] <MorganTheWretche> The only thing that scares me is, sometimes it seems like if you write a program based on GNOME, it won't work on KUbuntu and vica versa
[14:21] <Queops> Kubuntu is basically KDE, Qt
[14:21] <Queops> Gnome uses GTK
[14:21] <MorganTheWretche> yep
[14:21] <Queops> You can use the apps on both platforms though
[14:21] <Queops> the visual aspect will most likely be a little derpy though
[14:22] <Queops> specially GTK apps on KDE if I remember
[14:22] <MorganTheWretche> Hm, still, if I wanted some degree of... say taskbar notification functions... It may not work with both. Is that correct?
[14:22] <Queops> Most likely
[14:22] <Queops> Depends on which APi you are using
[14:22] <MorganTheWretche> Alright, I like a challenge. Thanks for the pointers.
[14:22] <Queops> There's so much stuff out there I don't even know
[14:22] <Queops> hehe
[14:23] <Queops> KDE uses a different calendar application as well MorganTheWretche
[14:24] <theadmin> Anyway, I have to go off, see y'all
[14:24] <MorganTheWretche> Hm, I'll probably choose to develop for GNOME or even Unity
[14:24] <baizon> nice to hear
[14:25] <Queops> Oh MorganTheWretche I forgot, if you don't use Thunderbird you can take a look at evolution, I don't know how integrated it is atm but evolution used to have some kind of calendar intregation with the default calendar app i think
[14:25] <MorganTheWretche> alright, I'll look into it
[14:25] <opieng> Ok, the boot repair has seem to work, I hope it doesn't get lost again
[14:25] <Guest6272> what is the best version of ubuntu/linux for a presario F763NR Notebook PC s/n CNF81561KH p/n KW061UA#ABA; Microprocessor1.90 GHz AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core Processor TK-57; Memory 1024 MB; Memory MaxUp to 3GB DDR2; Video GraphicsNVIDIA GeForce 7000M; Video MemoryUp to 287 MB; Hard Drive120 GB (5400 rpm); Keyboard101-key compatible ... i have been at this for days (12.04)and it is still saying no operating system found... im starting
[14:25] <Queops> MorganTheWretche: Unity session still uses the gnome environment, just not the gnome shell
[14:26] <opieng> By the way whats the easiest and safest way to uninstall my Ubuntu dual boot i I needed to?
[14:26] <cfhowlett> Guest6272: you DID checksum your iso, right?
[14:26] <vespakoen> Hey guys, I am using network time, on ubuntu, timezone is set allright, but the time is 12 hours off, any ideas what's going on?
[14:26] <MorganTheWretche> Hm, when I say Unity, I mean... perhaps some degree of integration with that panel. Maybe a tab system.
[14:26] <Queops> opieng: I usually boot into Windows 7, delete the partition there and restore the MBR with EasyBCD (google it)
[14:27] <Queops> To restore the MBR use the Write MBR somewhere on the program
[14:27] <opieng> oh as easy as that, and does it get rid of the Grub2
[14:27] <Queops> It's my favorite method
[14:27] <Queops> if you just have a machine with ubuntu and windows 7 for example yes
[14:27] <opieng> and keep everything with windows happy
[14:28] <talsamon> hello
[14:28] <talsamon>  hallo, since Opera 12.02 i have the problem that the java-plugin doesn't run, i can see it in about:plugins, it's Ubuntu 12.04, the links seem to be set right, all other plugins works, java is 1.6.0_35, any idea please
[14:28] <Queops> opieng: it might seem that EasyBCD is paid but its not for personal use http://neosmart.net/download.php?id=1
[14:29] <Queops> I miseed a comma there, I hope you got the idea though lol
[14:29] <Guest6272> what is the best version of ubuntu/linux for a presario F763NR Notebook PC s/n CNF81561KH p/n KW061UA#ABA; Microprocessor1.90 GHz AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core Processor TK-57; Memory 1024 MB; Memory MaxUp to 3GB DDR2; Video GraphicsNVIDIA GeForce 7000M; Video MemoryUp to 287 MB; Hard Drive120 GB (5400 rpm); Keyboard101-key compatible ... i have been at this for days (12.04)and it is still saying no operating system found... im starting
[14:29] <opieng> yep, thanks Queops
[14:29] <cfhowlett> Guest6272: DID YOU checksum the iso?
[14:30] <Guest6272> i im'd you and asked you how to do that
[14:30] <Guest6272> !
[14:30] <bazhang> !md5 | Guest6272
[14:30] <MorganTheWretche> fyi, my twitter if anyone wants to hear geeky rants... https://twitter.com/MorgansCode
[14:30] <bazhang> !hashes > Guest6272
[14:30] <bazhang> MorganTheWretche, stay on topic please
[14:30] <neobenedict> what's !hashes?
[14:30] <neobenedict> !hashes > neobenedict
[14:31] <neobenedict> makes sense.
[14:31] <bazhang> neobenedict, /msg ubottu hashes
[14:31] <cfhowlett> Guest6272:  reason why you should:  downloads sometimes get screwy.  A screwy iso will give you a screwy installation.
[14:31] <neobenedict> any bot command list somewhere?
[14:31] <bazhang> neobenedict, /msg ubottu factoids
[14:31] <Queops> Guest6272: and if you are burning into a CD try burning it at a lower speed
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> neobenedict  http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[14:32] <Guest6272> i have access to cd-rs, dvd-rws, 8 gb usb, and an external hd... what would be best?
[14:33] <bazhang> Guest6272, the usb stick and unetbootin
[14:33] <Adie> usb in my opinion
[14:33] <Psi-Jack> Guest6272: There is no "best" of anything. Best is a measure of your own personal and unique opinion of what you consider best for you, and could be in multiple different scenarios. It is more useful to ask more specific questions you have.
[14:33] <cfhowlett> Guest6272: for convenience, usb
[14:33] <deadmund> Guest6272: Tough choice... not the cd-r (can't erase it).
[14:33] <bazhang> !unetbootin | Guest6272
[14:33] <deadmund> Guest6272: Probably usb is fastest
[14:33]  * Psi-Jack still uses CDR to this day.
[14:34] <Sachiru> !hashes > Sachiru
[14:34] <Guest6272> should i use a certain application to put it onto the usb?
[14:34] <cfhowlett> Guest6272: unetbootin
[14:34] <deadmund> unetbootin ftw
[14:34] <Guest6272> ?
[14:35] <Adie> you asked what application to use, two people said "unetbootin"
[14:35] <Adie> ^_^
[14:36] <Guest6272> should i format the usb in any particular way?
[14:36] <Guest6272> im a noob..
[14:36] <Psi-Jack> Adie: Actually, only 1 person said it.
[14:36] <Queops> Guest6272: http://www.linuxliveusb.com/ http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ these are my favorite ones
[14:36] <Psi-Jack> Adie: The ohyer was a bot. :p
[14:36] <Adie> o
[14:36] <Queops> Linux live usb does all the work for you, including formatting the usb drive
[14:36] <Queops> and so do the others
[14:36] <Queops> but I know for a fact that linux live usb checks the checksum
[14:37] <Guest6272> cool deal
[14:37] <Queops> But, windows only
[14:37] <Queops> if you are on linux get unetbootin or something
[14:37] <bnwkeys> Noob question alert!  I need to manually install my wifi driver on a laptop, that has a fresh ubuntu install.  I don't have a wired internet connection to use, and I can't find a driver download center in the support.  Am I missing something here?
[14:37] <Adie> if using unetbootin, I think it should be fat32
[14:37] <Psi-Jack> Guest6272: So, is there a particular reason you specifically used a guest nick with those specific numbers? :p
[14:37] <cfhowlett> bnwkeys: is this for a  broadcom wifi?
[14:38] <Adie> it never seemed to format my usb drives on its own
[14:38] <Psi-Jack> Cause auto-generated nicks have 5 digits, not 4.
[14:38] <Queops> cfhowlett: I think you will win with that guess :P
[14:38] <Guest6272> im making it on windows 7 but the comp that needs it came with vista but currently has nothing
[14:38]  * cfhowlett bets $1
[14:38] <bnwkeys> i think it is a broadcom wifi, the laptop is a dell inspiron 1501
[14:38]  * Queops bets cfhowlett's one dollar
[14:38] <Queops> Bingo!
[14:39] <Guest6272> i couldnt figure out how to create an account
[14:39] <cfhowlett> bnwkeys: yep.  bcom43**.  you're in luck.  you can do it all the installation directly from the boot media.  wait one.
[14:39] <Guest6272> at psi
[14:39] <Adie> Guest6272, unetbootin is an application that will put a ubuntu .iso on the flash drive in such a way that you can boot from it
[14:39] <Psi-Jack> Guest6272: /nick newnick
[14:39] <Psi-Jack> And wait a sec...
[14:40] <Psi-Jack> Hmmm
[14:40] <Queops> Adie: does unetbootin check the hash?
[14:40] <Psi-Jack> This channel forwards to #ubuntu-unregged, but it seems that it's not defaultly account restricted.
[14:40] <Adie> Queops, no
[14:41] <Queops> Guest6272: since your previous download was corrupted and you are not comfortable on how to verify the ISO integrity just use the linuxlive one
[14:41] <Queops> At least we assume it was.
[14:42] <Guest6272> mtay
[14:42] <cfhowlett> bnwkeys: grr.  China is throttling internet again, so my connection is too slow to do the search.  here's the deal; your boot cdrom/usb has 5 files that you can copy to your desktop. then use terminal to install them, modprobe to activate and you've got internet.  Takes about 5 minutes.  Search: ubuntu + broadcom + no internet access   this might be a good link  http://www.ehow.com/how_7296322_install-driver-network-ubuntu-10_4.html
[14:43] <Queops> Guest6272: don't forget to tell us how it went ;)
[14:43] <cfhowlett> bnwkeys: or this one  http://search.yahoo.com/r/_ylt=A0oGdVF2wURQgz0A2wVXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTE0NHFhYWRrBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDOARjb2xvA3NrMQR2dGlkA1FJMDA3XzEzOQ--/SIG=12ugrumog/EXP=1346712054/**http%3a//naveenubuntu.blogspot.com/2011/01/broadcom-sta-wireless-driver.html
[14:44] <bnwkeys> cfhowlett: thanks a bunch, that's a lot of help, hopefully this frankensteined dell laptop will be cruising on ubuntu in no time :D
[14:44] <Queops> bnwkeys: I had to do that with my laptop as well
[14:44] <Psi-Jack> Well, this is trucking on along reinstalling all packages now that it's hit the lib*
[14:45] <cfhowlett> bnwkeys: it's actually a pretty slick fix.  also, better than compiling the driver from broadcom.
[14:45] <Queops> True
[14:45] <opieng> can I install pyqt4 on a virtual machine Ubuntu install?
[14:45] <Queops> I remember just dpkg -i the package
[14:45] <Queops> and it worked for me
[14:45] <bnwkeys> sweet, sounds good
[14:45] <Queops> opieng: virtual machine or not pyqt4 should be available
[14:45] <cfhowlett> !who
[14:46] <gyre007> I have come across an interesting issue on ubuntu...I create a massive file (ie around 5G) and when I run df -h NO SPACE seems to have been taken by that file
[14:46] <gyre007> uhhh
[14:46] <gyre007> wtf
[14:46] <iwak-piyek> histo, i wanna say thank you, for ubuntu developer. great job. my cdma modem SpeedUp E2700E is working correctly.
[14:46] <opieng> I get two error msgs..
[14:46] <gyre007> :)
[14:46] <FloodBot1> gyre007: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:46] <cfhowlett> bnwkeys: STA - No Internet Access section of this  http://turbolinux.org/2011/07/ubuntu-broadcom-bcm43xx-chipset-pci/
[14:46] <iwak-piyek> for ubuntu developer i mean
[14:47] <opieng> unable to open lock file and unable to lock administration directory
[14:47] <bikram> hi [10:37] <bikram> bikram@bikram-Vostro-3400:~$ sudo update-grub Generating grub.cfg ... Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.35-32-generic Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.35-32-generic Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.35-22-generic Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.35-22-generic Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin done [10:38] <bikram> is showing after I installed ubuntu over windows 7 [10:38] <bikram> wi
[14:47] <gyre007> the way I created a file was: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/var/test_monitor bs=1 count=0 seek=4G
[14:47] <ozette> I'm using Windows 7 in a vm, how can I bring files over from host to guest without something like dropbox?
[14:48] <Guest6272> should i re download the iso since it didnt work b4?
[14:48] <Psi-Jack> Ozette: share.
[14:48] <ozette> share a folder?
[14:48] <ThinkT510> ozette: thats what shared folders are for
[14:48] <ratcheer> Guest6272: Did you check the md5sum?
[14:48] <iwak-piyek> ozette, install samba and share
[14:48] <Psi-Jack> File systems do not have folders.
[14:48] <cfhowlett> Guest6272: only if the hashcheck doesn't match.  Also, use the .torrent download method - fewer download problems
[14:49] <Psi-Jack> No need for Samba.
[14:49] <opieng> how can I post the error msgs can you can see them?
[14:49] <ozette> Yea I'd like to do it without samba
[14:49] <Queops> cfhowlett: I think with torrent it never goes corrupted right?
[14:49] <cfhowlett> !paste|opieng:
[14:49] <abhinavmehta> I'm having few machines in my local LAN(wifi network) using mac/win/ubuntu. Recently, I found that at times my ubuntu machine stops responding to local ping requests randomly after running sometime…does anyone know, why this happens..?
[14:49] <ozette> I'll see what I can do, thank you
[14:49] <cfhowlett> Queops: never say never, but I've had no such problem
[14:49] <abhinavmehta> or how to resolve this, without restarting the machine…BTW after restart things get auto restored.
[14:49] <Queops> cfhowlett: you made me worried now :p
[14:50] <Psi-Jack> ozette: VirtualBox can share local files as if it were on a network.
[14:50] <cfhowlett> Queops: hey just my opinion.  YMMV
[14:50] <abhinavmehta> ANYONE, on why ubuntu machine stop responding to local computers…while internet is working on that machine.
[14:51] <Guest6272> which is easiest for people that dont speak too much computer ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu, or lubuntu??? i need the computer for college and gaming..
[14:51] <Psi-Jack> abhinavmehta: Describe the actual nature of the problem, in detail.
[14:51] <bnwkeys> queops: you probably already know this, but i use hash checksums if I'm concerned about important firmware files being corrupted, like md5 checksum
[14:51] <Psi-Jack> Guest6272: They're all about the same.
[14:51] <Queops> cfhowlett: found an answer, see the first one http://superuser.com/questions/335182/how-does-a-downloaded-iso-get-corrupted
[14:52] <Psi-Jack> Guest6272: Please get an actual nick using /nick <somenewnick?, because there's 15 other Guest* users here.
[14:52] <yeats> Guest6272: it's totally a matter of opinion, but xubuntu or kde would probably be closer to windows behavior (in my opinion ;-) )
[14:52] <ozette> Psi-Jack, ok thanks
[14:52] <cfhowlett> Guest6272: mouse is a mouse, file is a file ... the differences between desktop environments are pretty much cosmetic
[14:52] <Queops> cfhowlett: my guess is that it will only corrupt if the machine is with anomalies beforehand hehe
[14:52] <abhinavmehta> Its simple Psi-Jack , as I said….my ubuntu box stops responding to local ping/ssh requests after running sometime…though it could access the internet via same local wifi router…but it doesn't respond to local system pings.
[14:52] <SAngeli> is it possible to share via samva /var/www ?
[14:52] <tonsofpcs> sure, why not
[14:52] <SAngeli> samba
[14:53] <Psi-Jack> abhinavmehta: No, you didn't /say/ that before. you just said "stops responding to local computers" which by itself made no sense.
[14:53] <cfhowlett> Queops: you might be right about that.
[14:53] <abhinavmehta> Psi-Jack: ok my mistake…no this the story, how can we solve this..?
[14:53] <abhinavmehta> *no=now
[14:53] <yeats> abhinavmehta: have you checked your logs for any relevant error messages?
[14:53] <Psi-Jack> abhinavmehta: So, ping doesn't even work?
[14:53] <Guest6272> step 4 options has hide created file on key checked and format the key in fat32 unchecked... do i need to change either one?
[14:53] <abhinavmehta> Psi-Jack: nope..
[14:54] <abhinavmehta> yeats: nope
[14:54] <hammommah> i have media centre in lounge room, lubuntu xbmc with nfs share's. I have lubuntu ltsp server running thin clients for my kids. Whats the best way to share certain shares off media center to kids with ro permissions? can you mount nfs shares on thin clients on boot?
[14:54] <Psi-Jack> abhinavmehta: Are you trying to ping by LAN IP, or by name?
[14:54] <yeats> abhinavmehta: /var/log/auth.log, /var/log/syslog, /var/log/daemon.log, etc.
[14:54] <Guest6272> aqnd psi... ive told u several times that if i knew how to change my name i would
[14:54] <abhinavmehta> Psi-Jack: by ip
[14:54] <AdvoWork> When I send mail from PHP (sendmail) for some reason, its showing the from, to, subject ok, but its showing the Sent time as 1st Jan 1970. Any idea what that could be?
[14:54] <abhinavmehta> yeats: sure..give me a sec
[14:54] <Psi-Jack> Guest6272: I've TOLD You how: /nick newnick
[14:54] <ThinkT510> Guest6272: /nick whateveryoulike
[14:54] <opieng> imagebin.org/227018 here is the error messages when trying to install pyqt4
[14:55] <Psi-Jack> Guest6272: That's 4 times you've been told. 3 by me alone. :p
[14:55] <Guest6272> obviously that wasnt enough description or i wouldve done it..
[14:55] <ryuguns> Hey
[14:55] <SAngeli> is it possible to share folders like /var/www (for website folder) via SAMBA?
[14:55] <Psi-Jack> SAngeli: Filesystems do not have folders. Laundry rooms have folders. Filesystems have directories.
[14:56] <ThinkT510> Guest6272: you can type into your irc client
[14:56] <mneptok> Psi-Jack: let's avoid pedantry, hmm?
[14:56] <SAngeli> ok, Psi-Jack  than can I share a directories so I can access them via windows?
[14:56] <Guest6272> think u helpful person
[14:56] <Psi-Jack> mneptok: I'll only provide help to people that want to be accurate enough not to use "folder" instead of "directory", but thanks anyway. ;)
[14:57] <Queops> Folder is pretty acceptable for me
[14:57] <mneptok> SAngeli: any directory is able to be shared. just watch permissions.
[14:57] <Psi-Jack> SAngeli: Of course you can, using Samba.
[14:57] <Guest6272> i never said the word folder or directory
[14:57] <SAngeli> Ok I needed to know.
[14:57] <ThinkT510> Guest6272: so what is so difficult about typing /nick whateveryouwant
[14:57] <hammommah> i have media centre in lounge room, lubuntu xbmc with nfs share's. I have lubuntu ltsp server running thin clients for my kids. Whats the best way to share certain shares off media center to kids with ro permissions? can you mount nfs shares on thin clients on boot?
[14:57] <SAngeli> I now have to learn how to
[14:57] <Psi-Jack> SAngeli: However. permissions will be a PITA, but you can override those with samba options.
[14:57] <SAngeli> ok
[14:57] <Harlin> possible to share ext4 with Windows?
[14:57] <Psi-Jack> Keep that in mind. :)
[14:57] <mneptok> Psi-Jack: provide help to whom you like. but avoid snarky pedantic comments that do not further this channel's aim of friendly support. and now i'm not asking, i'm telling.
[14:57] <Psi-Jack> Harlin: No
[14:57] <SAngeli> I have to search for a good resource for learning howto
[14:57] <Harlin> ok didn't think so
[14:57] <cfhowlett> Harlin: nope
[14:58] <yeats> !samba | SAngeli
[14:58] <Queops> I agree with mneptok, forgive us SAngeli :)
[14:58] <Queops> Or rather forgive psi :P
[14:58] <SAngeli> ok
[14:58] <Psi-Jack> No, don't forgive me. ;)
[14:58] <voodoofacehole> precisely mne.. im not going to communicate with u respectfully if you dont
[14:58] <abhinavmehta> Psi-Jack: yeats: here are the logs: http://bpaste.net/show/B8fuQrG1wyHMmmEDbRCL/ http://bpaste.net/show/8s4QlO85Bti75rymyhXb/
[14:58] <Psi-Jack> I'm going to be whom I've been for the past 20 years regardless of anyone else. ;)
[14:59] <SAngeli> thank you yeats
[14:59] <voodoofacehole> i learned to ignore people like that a couple decades ago
[14:59] <ThinkT510> voodoofacehole: can we stick to support
[14:59] <abhinavmehta> plz tell me, if I'm missing something
[15:00] <ratcheer> Samba is easy?
[15:00] <Psi-Jack> Anything is "easy" once you take the time to learn it. :)
[15:00] <voodoofacehole> thats what im trying to do
[15:00] <ratcheer> Psi-Jack: I've tried to learn Samba many times. I always end up going back to ssh.
[15:01] <voodoofacehole> only bad question is the one you didnt ask
[15:01] <mneptok> ratcheer: not a bad idea. SFTP is far more secure.
[15:01] <ratcheer> mneptok: +1
[15:01] <drcube`> 09:59 <abhinavmehta> plz tell me, if I'm missing something
[15:02] <Psi-Jack> ratcheer: Samba's pretty easy, like I said, once you take the time to learn it. Samba has two major things about it. 1> It provides CIFS shares that other OS's can access, 2> For Samba to Samba, it provides POSIX extentions over it, so Linux to Linux, it will maintain a level of your standard Linux permissions.
[15:02] <Harlin> have to admit... I used Mint 12 for the last year due to the perceived "better looks" .. was starting to think a Linux desktop superior to Mac and/or Windows 7 was not possible yet... however Ub 12 has opened my eyes ... very good job ... I think it's much better interface/experience compared to mac/win
[15:02] <abhinavmehta> drcube: what does that mean..?
[15:02] <voodoofacehole> step 4 options has hide created file on key checked and format the key in fat32 unchecked... do i need to change either one?
[15:02] <Calinou> !mint
[15:02] <Harlin> Mint 12/13 was good but this is much better
[15:02] <abhinavmehta> Psi-Jack: can you help me in that regard..?
[15:02] <Queops> Harlin: wait until 12.10 comes around, it sure does promises
[15:02] <Queops> promise*
[15:02] <Psi-Jack> abhinavmehta: I haven't enough information to go with here.
[15:02] <Calinou> !offtopic | Harlin
[15:02] <Calinou> Queops, yeah, more slowness
[15:03] <Calinou> :}
[15:03] <Calinou> and wifi bugs
[15:03] <Harlin> ;-)
[15:03] <abhinavmehta> Psi-Jack: ok np..thank you.
[15:03] <Queops> Calinou: derp! I don't think so
[15:03] <Harlin> in case anyone considering ;-)
[15:03] <Calinou> any distro is better than mac/win anyway :P
[15:03] <Queops> Calinou: I only blame broadcom
[15:03] <Calinou> I prefer rolling release distros though (i use debian wheezy :P)
[15:03] <Queops> Broadcom seems to be the major source of problems on wifi for people
[15:04] <SirDidi> i have a connection problem on ubuntu... a ping to google -> http://pastebin.com/D042GnPB on windows and other devices it works
[15:04] <cfhowlett> Queops: atheros is right up there too
[15:04] <SirDidi> what can i do?
[15:04] <Queops> yeh atheros too!
[15:04] <abhinavmehta> don't want to offend you…but don't understand why people get holistic about os'es(ubuntu/mac/win) etc..
[15:04] <Queops> abhinavmehta: because people like to be productive, others like e-peens
[15:04] <ratcheer> Psi-Jack: Yes, that is where I usually lose it with Samba. Special Samba user accounts, special Samba permissions, and of course, special Samba firewall settings.
[15:04] <lmg_> SirDidi, can you go on google when typing the ip in your address bar?
[15:04] <Queops> I'm partially kidding ;)
[15:04] <cfhowlett> SirDidi: any DNS changes?
[15:05] <Harlin> abhinavmehta, well i only like to use one at a time (at least 80% of the time), so it's very important to me. And it's ok... there always has to be a "best" ;-)
[15:05] <Rickardo1> How can I solve this? Can't locate Module/Implementation.pm in @INC (@INC contains: . lib/x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi lib /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.14.2 /usr/local/share/perl/5.14.2 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.14 /usr/share/perl/5.14 /usr/local/lib/site_perl) at lib/x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi/Params/Validate.pm line 12.
[15:05] <SirDidi> lmg_, yes
[15:05] <Harlin> Rickardo1, looks like a Perl question
[15:05] <SirDidi> cfhowlett, nope
[15:05] <Harlin> #perl
[15:05] <lmg_> SirDidi, okay, it's your dns then.
[15:05] <Calinou> clear your DNS cache maybe
[15:05] <SirDidi> lmg_, it works also google.com
[15:05] <abhinavmehta> Queops: I guess, you can pretty much do anything on any os….I hardly believe that os in-particular makes you productive or unproductive….it's just a different way of doing the things.
[15:06] <lmg_> SirDidi, oh
[15:06] <abhinavmehta> exception to win
[15:06] <lmg_> SirDidi, What's the problem then?
[15:06] <hammommah> anyone with info on how to mount nfs shares on ubuntu thin clients?
[15:06] <SirDidi> lmg_, it take a lot of time
[15:06] <lmg_> SirDidi, oh, the 44% packet loss
[15:06] <lmg_> SirDidi, No idea then
[15:06] <SirDidi> lmg_, and sometimes it didnt work
[15:06] <Harlin> abhinavmehta, heh i started a support job and a mac seriously impeded my ability to be "productive"
[15:06] <SirDidi> lmg_, kk
[15:06] <Queops> abhinavmehta: for some people some environments just don't cut it, thats mainly why
[15:06] <Harlin> abhinavmehta, a great company, heck they issue $3000 macbook pros but they suck for what i do.
[15:07] <Calinou> huge packet losses occur randomly for me, regardless of OS
[15:07] <Calinou> blame your ISP
[15:07] <bazhang> !ot | Harlin abhinavmehta
[15:07] <cfhowlett> hammommah: I THINK it might be in here:  help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP
[15:07] <Queops> some go through the trouble of modifying to their tastes, others just find the default environment good enough (lucky people those that do)
[15:07] <abhinavmehta> Harlin: thats the lack of awareness…not something wrong with macs, I guess.
[15:07] <Calinou> haven't been slapped with !ot \o/
[15:07] <Calinou> (I'm banned from there anyway)
[15:07] <SirDidi> Calinou, it only happens on ubuntu
[15:07] <bazhang> Queops, thats enough
[15:07] <Harlin> abhinavmehta, a good point. it's probably me ;-)
[15:08] <abhinavmehta> Queops: agree a bit about env…, but that doesn't mean some os is bad/good…coz it doesn't suits your personal taste..!
[15:08] <ThinkT510> abhinavmehta: stop it
[15:09] <Harlin> always subjective
[15:09] <bazhang> abhinavmehta, take the chit chat elsewhere please
[15:09] <a8s0lut0> Hello all!  I would like to run the open source ATI driver (radeon/radeonhd) but it appears "vesa" is what xubuntu is running out of the box.
[15:09] <Harlin> mesa the way to go a8s0lut0
[15:09] <abhinavmehta> sorry if I offended anyone here.
[15:11] <abhinavmehta> anyways, anyone here can help me with local ping requests issue ??
[15:11] <yeats> abhinavmehta: from your log it looks like your wifi is getting disconnected periodically
[15:11] <Harlin> http://tinyurl.com/d8mzple a8s0lut0
[15:12] <abhinavmehta> yeats: guess thats fine, if  I'm able to access internet…but if I could connect to internet, why not local systems..?
[15:12] <yeats> abhinavmehta: I don't understand your question...
[15:12] <abhinavmehta> because if I could connect to internet, that means my ubuntu machine is able to connect the local network.
[15:13] <abhinavmehta> lcoal network=wifi
[15:13] <abhinavmehta> and if I could access my wifi router, than why not local-machines..?
[15:13] <abhinavmehta> please tell me, if I'm making mistake
[15:14] <yeats> abhinavmehta: from the log, it appears that the wifi is getting disconnected, which *should* mean that the machine wouldn't be able to get anywhere
[15:14] <sl3ax> hi to all! Can anyone help me with sed ? This is my question (a bit long). http://pastebin.com/DuMX5r6p
[15:15] <abhinavmehta> yeats: correct, if that was the case…but on this ubuntu machine I'm running torrent-server, which is always connected to internet(as I can see downloads/uploads)….so it's not the condition not *get anywhere*
[15:15] <Queops> sl3ax: ##sed
[15:15] <Psi-Jack> oi,,, Torrent. Nuff said. :(
[15:15] <voodoofacehole> do i have to have the hide created files on key option checked in step 4 of linuxlive usb?
[15:15] <sl3ax> Queops: I've asked, but noone answers.
[15:15] <Queops> voodoofacehole: not really, any will do
[15:16] <yeats> abhinavmehta: no idea, then - I'm just reading your log
[15:16] <abhinavmehta> yeats: ok..thank you…keenly looking forward. :)
[15:16] <a8s0lut0> Harlin, that link is instructions for fglrx, isn't there an open source version I can try first?
[15:16] <Queops> sl3ax: maybe you could try some forum or be a bit more patient then
[15:17] <deadmund> a8s0lut0: the open source driver is called 'radeon'
[15:17] <sl3ax> Queops: ok. Do you know any sed specific forum?
[15:17] <Queops> no, sorry
[15:17] <a8s0lut0> deadmund,   how do i verify i'm running that, or run it if i'm not?
[15:18] <deadmund> a8s0lut0: Look at the output of lspci -k  under your grahpics card for the 'driver in use'
[15:18] <deadmund> a8s0lut0: If you have trouble reading it pastebinit and i"ll interpret it: paste.ubuntu.com
[15:18] <a8s0lut0> ah, says kernel driver in use: radeon
[15:19] <deadmund> a8s0lut0: there's ur answer.  If you don't trust it use lsmod | grep radeon
[15:19] <a8s0lut0> well i used the compiz-check util @ forlong.blogage.de/article/pages/Compiz-Check which says vesa
[15:19] <user__> hello
[15:19] <cfhowlett> user__: greetings
[15:19] <deadmund> a8s0lut0: Just lspci and lsmod over compiz-check
[15:20] <deadmund> a8s0lut0: **trust lspci and lsmod over compiz-check**
[15:20] <a8s0lut0> cool, thanks for the help... doesn't tell me why compiz basically doesn't work
[15:20] <deadmund> a8s0lut0: what do you  mean it doesn't work?
[15:21] <a8s0lut0> well i'm using XFCE in xubuntu, and when i do a "compiz --replace ccp" i can't really use the window manager at all, windows act werid
[15:22] <deadmund> a8s0lut0: Can you be more specific?
[15:22] <MonkeyDust> a8s0lut0  compiz in xubuntu?
[15:22] <a8s0lut0> yea, running compiz in 12.04 xubuntu
[15:22] <MonkeyDust> a8s0lut0  the strangst combination, is it even possible?
[15:23] <deadmund> yes!
[15:23] <i7c> MonkeyDust: it is.
[15:23] <deadmund> it's possible!
[15:23] <a8s0lut0> uh, i guess not? haha
[15:23] <deadmund> It is VERY POSSIBLE
[15:23] <a8s0lut0> maybe i haven't configured it correctly?
[15:23] <krababbel> impossible
[15:23] <db6sda8> help
[15:23] <deadmund> a8s0lut0: Well, you're going to have to be more specific than, "it's weird"
[15:24] <i7c> deadmund: i guess he hasn't enabled any plugins so that he can't even move/resize windows
[15:24] <a8s0lut0> i'll run it now and be more specific, but i have trouble coming back from it / disabling.
[15:24] <deadmund> i7c: maybe
[15:24]  * cfhowlett xfce is for quite simple graphic displays.  compiz is eye candy.  So why...?  Never mind.
[15:24] <a8s0lut0> yeah there weren't many plugins enabled by default
[15:25] <deadmund> a8s0lut0: there ya go!
[15:25] <user__> can i install zorin os shell on ubuntu ?
[15:25] <user__> is it possible ?
[15:25] <SAngeli_> when samba is running but from windows I am unable to access the shared resources, when asked to provide username and password, what does it mean? What is that I am doing wrong? I am trying to share /var/www
[15:25] <SAngeli_> I see the ubuntu server but not its shares
[15:26] <Psi-Jack> SAngeli_: smbpasswd is needed to add users to the Samba password database.
[15:26] <SAngeli_> I uses it from withing the user shell. I just typed smbpasswd, Psi-Jack   is there a different way to seup usrname and password?
[15:26] <a8s0lut0> deadmund, i can't move any windows around because the titlebar areas all disappear
[15:27] <Psi-Jack> SAngeli_: You have to add a user, first, such as smbpasswd -a <username>
[15:27] <deadmund> a8s0lut0: that's the window decorator plugin.  Make sure it's on!
[15:27] <SAngeli_> I see, Psi-Jack thanks
[15:27] <a8s0lut0> just ran it with some plugins enabled (gnome compat enabled as welll), did see some hot wobbling action
[15:27] <Psi-Jack> SAngeli_: You will need to do that as root.
[15:27] <vespa> ciao
[15:27] <SAngeli_> ok
[15:27] <vespa> !list
[15:27] <bnwkeys> OK, so I'm starting to get frustrated :(  It says all the packages i need for my wifi driver are installed, but when i try to view my hardware drivers to enable the broadcom drivers, i don't see anything at all listed
[15:27] <citymaj> i cant access my root folder....beginner
[15:27] <deadmund> a8s0lut0: great, it's working.  Now you just have to turn on / configure the right plugins.  Def turn on window decorations.  You can also hold down alt and click + drag windows even without the decorator
[15:28] <Queops> bnwkeys: did you use modprobe yet?
[15:28] <deadmund> bnwkeys: Hi.  I'm great with broadcom drivers.  What chipset do you have?  (do you know what I'm talking about?)
[15:28] <lickalott> citymaj sudo cd /
[15:28] <lickalott> or sudo passwd root, then set a root password
[15:28] <citymaj> treminal?
[15:28] <citymaj> terminal
[15:28] <bnwkeys> queops no i haven't used mobprobe yet, what does that do.
[15:28] <lickalott> true
[15:28] <citymaj> thanks
[15:29] <a8s0lut0> deadmund, awesome! that brought the titlebars back, still can't drag around.  will mess around..
[15:29] <Queops> bnwkeys: deadmund will help you, I loved his/her introduction to you haha
[15:29] <deadmund> bnwkeys: modprobe inserts drivers into the kernel (makes drivers work)
[15:29] <deadmund> his*
[15:29] <bnwkeys> deadmund: the chipset should be for inspiron 1501, not sure the specifics atm, its an amd 64 processor
[15:29] <deadmund> a8s0lut0: there is another plugin called 'move'
[15:29] <deadmund> bnwkeys: I meant the chipset of the wifi device.  You can find it in sudo lspci -k   If it's too much to read you can use paste.ubuntu.com and I'll help read it.
[15:30] <Queops> deadmund: if the drivers aren't loaded will lspci have the info?
[15:30] <deadmund> Queops: It'll show the chipset and the drivers that are installed (not being used even) and the one being used.
[15:30] <a8s0lut0> deadmund, lol wow, a plugin for "move".  That worked!  Maybe I should pull out the compiz "manual"
[15:31] <AdvoWork> When I send mail from PHP (sendmail) for some reason, its showing the from, to, subject ok, but its showing the Sent time as 1st Jan 1970. Any idea what that could be?
[15:31] <bnwkeys> deadmund: thanks, quitting cigarettes + learning linux = bad thoughts, lol.  Hold tight, let me get that chipset info
[15:31] <deadmund> a8s0lut0: haha  I think that gui configuring thing is the manual
[15:31] <deadmund> bnwkeys: Take your time :)
[15:31] <deadmund> :P
[15:32] <Queops> deadmund: oh it must use the identifiers of the devices to match to some hardware list
[15:32] <deadmund> Queops: Indeed it does.
[15:32] <Queops> deadmund: I was wondering because once I wasn't able to get a device model
[15:32] <Queops> hehe
[15:32] <deadmund> Queops: The system actually probes the hardware. Looks up the names in some list, then inserts modules based on what it finds.  That's why it's so easy to install new hardware in linux usually
[15:33] <Queops> deadmund: definitely
[15:34] <acioname> i have a problem with nvidia card driver i get this error when i was trying to install a program with apt-get command via terminal http://pastebin.com/t8VFvZha
[15:35] <equex> which compiz plugin is it that makes you zoom out to see the workspaces when you press ctrl alt arrowdown, and then you can scroll left and right and zoom in ?
[15:35] <TheLordOfTime> acioname:  did you read the logfile it indicates?
[15:35] <deadmund> equex: it starts with an e... I can't remember...
[15:36] <bnwkeys> deadmund: nework controller: Broadcom Corp BCM4311, 802.11b/g WLAN rev01, ethernet controller: Broadcom Corp BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX rev02
[15:36] <user14> If /home is like Documents and Settings, what separate partition can I make for storing my files?
[15:36] <deadmund> bnwkeys: the bcm4311 is your wifi.  I have the same one!!
[15:36] <deadmund> bnwkeys: What (if you know) have you installed?  (what was listed in lspci -k for the device's modules or drivers?)
[15:37] <acioname> TheLordOfTime:yes
[15:37] <TheLordOfTime> acioname:  and?
[15:37] <deadmund> equex: expo!
[15:37] <deadmund> equex: it's called expo, similar to mac "expose`'
[15:37] <bnwkeys> deadmund: b43-pci-bridge, wl ssb
[15:37] <acioname> TheLordOfTime: look http://pastebin.com/hyvvkXKr
[15:38] <krababbel> user14: any you want?
[15:38] <deadmund> bnwkeys: We need the b43 driver.  Hang on a second.  Is the target machine connected to the Internet in some way?
[15:38] <bnwkeys> d
[15:38] <deadmund> d?
[15:38] <bnwkeys> target machine has no internet
[15:39] <deadmund> bnwkeys: The easiest way to do it is to get online (only briefly).  Can you do that?
[15:39] <bnwkeys> deadmund: i don't have a wired connection, i'm sitting on a neighbor's wifi, using my desktop compy
[15:39] <deadmund> bnwkeys: alright, let's try this first.  sudo modprobe b43   (although I don't think it will work).
[15:40] <user14> krababbel, can I PM you?
[15:40] <krababbel> user14: just ask here
[15:40] <bnwkeys> deadmund: i go no print in terminal, i guess it didn't do anything
[15:40] <Ebbers> My input sound is working but not my output sound. Any ideas OS= Ubuntu 10.04?
[15:40] <Queops> bnwkeys: i think it did :)
[15:40] <deadmund> bnwkeys: If it outputs nothing that means it's good news.
[15:40] <Queops> :D
[15:40] <user14> krababbel, alright, what mount point can I use then?
[15:40] <bnwkeys> lol
[15:40] <jared_> hello all. I am using a dv9925nr with nforce 630m chipset. after installing all drivers i can hear audio through audio jacks but not onboard speakers. If anyone has any thoughts it would be greatly appreciated
[15:40] <deadmund> bnwkeys: Do you have wifi right now?
[15:41] <Queops> bnwkeys: try to connect now
[15:41] <reduz2> HELP: Using Ubuntu 12.04. DNS Resolutions are broken in both computers I have running 12.04, suddendly DNS stops resolving, while the other (Windows) computers on the network run ok. Any idea what is going on?
[15:41] <BluesKaj> reduz2, using network manager ?
[15:41] <krababbel> user14: /home/user14 would be your usual home dir. So the mount point would be the same. I never did this after setup. Have you already installed Ubuntu?
[15:41] <usr13> reduz2: What do you see in /etc/resolv.conf?   nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[15:42] <citymaj> lickalott i changed the passwd like you said but still cant access root folder
[15:42] <bnwkeys> que/dead: I have the wifi network section listed under the network manager finally! but it says "device not ready (firmware missing)"
[15:42] <user14> krababbel, no, I've already spent a day planning partitions =(
[15:42] <krababbel> user14: You would mount /dev/sda2 /home for example, or even /home/user
[15:42] <reduz2> user14, no, many "nameserver" lines
[15:42] <deadmund> bnwkeys: We'll be following this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#b43_-_No_Internet_access   (b43 with no internet access on target machine)  If you want, because it is noisy in here, you can PM me.
[15:42] <usr13> reduz2: What is the first one?
[15:42] <deadmund> bnwkeys: I thought it would say that.
[15:42] <reduz2> usr13, nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:42] <krababbel> user14: then just use /home as mount point for a partition
[15:43] <flametai1> Hey everyone for some reason when I install Ubuntu my wireless card doesn't work, I have a Qualcomm Atheros AR5BWB222 and help?
[15:43] <usr13> reduz2: Can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>  and is it a working nameserver?
[15:43] <amr_> please help me to install gnome 3.4 over ubuntu 12 ,details >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12214542#post12214542
[15:43] <deadmund> bnwkeys: Again, i will re-iterate.  If you can get the machine online this whole thing is much easier.
[15:43] <xangua> amr_: ubuntu 12.04 already has gnome 3.4
[15:43] <krababbel> user14: then the directory /home would be on its own partition
[15:44] <amr_> xangua: then how to activate it?
[15:44] <user14> krababbel, OK, so I need to make 3 partitions, root, swap and /home. And will 18 Gb be enough for root partition?
[15:44] <flametai1> I take it no one knows?
[15:44] <bnwkeys> deadmund; lol, can't figure out how to pm, fail
[15:44] <amr_> xangua: I can see unity but not gnome 3.4
[15:44] <usr13> reduz2: Or is port 53 answering / available to you? nmap -p 53 <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:44] <reduz2> usr13: yeah it's the same as the windows computers
[15:44] <bazhang> flametai1, patience
[15:45] <krababbel> user14: 18gb is plenty, I use 8 usually, 18, that would be a lot of programs
[15:45] <flametai1> bazhang: I have none. lol
[15:45] <bazhang> flametai1, it takes more than a single minute to reply
[15:45] <auronandace> amr_: install gnome-shell
[15:45] <usr13> reduz2: host av.com   #Does it answer with IP addresses?
[15:45] <amr_> auronandace: from the software center ,I did this but no luck
[15:45] <user14> krababbel, great, now I can check BIOS settings and install Ubuntu. Thanks!
[15:45] <acioname> i have a problem with nvidia card driver i get this error when i was trying to install a program with apt-get command via terminal http://pastebin.com/t8VFvZha
[15:46] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs   flametai1 the atheros is listed there
[15:46] <krababbel> user14: np, just use a bit more swap than you have ram for hibernation if you need
[15:46] <auronandace> amr_: then logout and select it
[15:46] <amr_> auronandace: I did but no luck ,please check http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12214542#post12214542
[15:47] <citymaj> cant access root FOLDER
[15:47] <user14> krababbel, OK, thanks =)
[15:47] <flametai1> bazhang: That's about a different wireless adapter, plus my laptop has no ethernet port.
[15:47] <usr13> reduz2: route -n  #Do you see the proper gateway IP?  (The IP of your gateway router...?)
[15:47] <equex> deadmund: thanks :) i was afk
[15:48] <deadmund> equex: sure
[15:48] <BluesKaj> reduz2, /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head writes to /etc/resolv.conf , so you should have your nameserversw listed in " head "
[15:48] <opieng> tried sudo, but still no success installing PyQt tried that... here is what I get... pastebin.com/Y634n3Wh