[20:46] <nixoeen> Hey, sorry for asking for the third time... I would like to change the URL of our channel (#ubuntu-ir), but I guess I do not have enough permissions to do so. Is there anyone who can help me with it? :)
[20:46] <nixoeen> Unit193, ^
[20:47] <Unit193> nixoeen: Howdy.  I presume you mean the actual url as it is set in ChanServ?  That looks correct to me and thesite is reachable.
[20:48] <nixoeen> Unit193, just check all the urls on top of the page in https://ubuntu-ir.org. We are using https://ubuntu.ir/ almost everywhere now.
[20:51] <Unit193> nixoeen: So you'd like it fixed in ChanServ and the topic then?  You do have the right access for the topic, but not ChanServ.
[20:53] <nixoeen> Unit193, Just for ChanServ :) I will do it for the Topic by myself.
[20:53] <Unit193> nixoeen: Done.
[20:54] <Unit193> I support the move to https!  I note that the logo at the bottom of the page goes back to http though.
[20:56] <nixoeen> Unit193, Great, thank you :)
[20:56] <Unit193> Happy to help.
[20:59] <nixoeen> Unit193, True, there are still several links which are pointing to http, but I will fix them soon. And later, we would force https, so everything from http will be forwarded automatically to https.


[00:40] <rick_h_> ah the joys of packing
[02:00] <snap-l> rick_h_: Wasn't too back since he was only moving from one room to another
[02:00] <snap-l> but yeah, it was fun
[02:00] <snap-l> Also, apparently I'm a "poopie-head" for asking JODee to indent 4 spaces.
[02:00] <snap-l> in python
[03:31] <jrwren> pep8 !!!!
[03:31] <jrwren> i play style cop on reviews at work sometimes :)
[11:03] <tony-smlr> SMLR is Live: Live : Video: http://www.youtube.com/user/tbemus?v=g6fszXBVWEE Audio: http://live.smlr.us:8000/streaming
[13:21] <snap-l> morning
[19:40] <rick_h_> afternoon
[19:42] <gamerchick02> hi!
[19:42] <gamerchick02> long time, no see.
[19:44] <rick_h_> heh, I've been around :P
[19:47] <gamerchick02> i haven't.
[19:48] <gamerchick02> at least not IRC.
[19:48] <gamerchick02> and yeah. i didn't realize that Penguicon was the same weekend as a friend's baby shower. the shower i said i'd go to way back in the summer.
[19:49] <gamerchick02> i really really really wanted to go.
[23:02] <tjagoda> Herro


[06:33] <YoBoY> good morning
[06:37] <nigelb> lies! I'm going back to bed
[06:38] <nigelb> Good morning YoBoY :)
[06:39] <YoBoY> great idea, the bed was so good and I'm so tired ^^"
[06:39] <YoBoY> ok, now I have more time :D
[06:40] <YoBoY> what the hell is this jono's blog proposition for the ltp ? ^^"
[06:41] <YoBoY> is really near one of my team site : http://ubuntu-party.org/ :p
[06:42] <YoBoY> and I don't rally understand the posts, are we syndicating team blogs ? with all the langages ?
[06:42] <YoBoY> really
[07:42] <nigelb> YoBoY: yup, its going to look like that mostly :)
[07:42] <nigelb> we're not going to sync all blog pots
[07:42] <nigelb> *posts
[07:43] <nigelb> we're just going to start with a few people posting to the LTP about what they did in their loco team
[07:46] <YoBoY> hum... why people and not locos ? if it's people, the posts are already on the planet.u.c no ?
[07:49] <nigelb> YoBoY: No, that's where the problem is
[07:49] <nigelb> Not every rockstar loco team member may have access to planet
[07:49] <nigelb> because they might not be ubuntu members
[07:49] <nigelb> besides, planet does have other noise
[07:49] <nigelb> we want to showcase loco active on the LTP
[07:50] <YoBoY> hum... and none of the locoteam blogs also ;)
[12:07] <daker> mhall119, help!!!
[12:08] <daker> i have added a color field to the track, and i am getting
[12:08] <daker> "NoReverseMatch: Reverse for 'summit.schedule.decorators.inner' with arguments '('',)' and keyword arguments '{}' not found."
[12:58] <nigelb> oops
[12:58] <nigelb> I was workig on that
[13:00] <daker> o.O workin on the color track ?
[13:00] <daker> working*
[13:00] <daker> nigelb, ^
[13:00] <nigelb> daker: yeah, moving the color to a db field
[13:03] <daker> ok
[13:06] <nigelb> blah, we need to talk to each other more often
[13:06] <nigelb> my fault too, I didn't update the blueprint when I took the task
[13:22] <nigelb> daker: anyway, sounds like you might be ahead of me.  Carry on with it.  I'll pick up something else.
[13:23] <nigelb> daker: open a bug and assign it yourself when you start something so that we know you're working on.  If you can assign your name to task in the BP, that'd be awesome too.
[13:28] <mhall119> daker: pong
[13:30] <daker> yo
[13:31] <daker> brb
[13:33] <nigelb> mhall119: ping
[13:38] <nigelb> mhall119: never mind, I'll figure it out :)
[13:56] <mhall119> nigelb: :)
[14:28] <daker> mhall119, can you figure out the problem ?
[14:29] <mhall119> daker: did you make a change to urls.py?
[14:30] <daker> no
[14:31] <daker> i have just added a color field to the track
[14:31] <mhall119> hmmm...
[14:31] <mhall119> any changes to templates?
[14:32] <daker> no
[14:32] <daker> http://pastebin.com/PDQPGy2W
[14:33] <daker> when i want to add a summit from here http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8800/admin/schedule/summit/add/ i got that error
[14:33] <mhall119> daker: hmm, I'll have to dig more


[21:15] <Bashing-om> UWN: A very skimpy Issue715 up for acceptance : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue715 :D
[21:17] <guiverc> looks good to me Bashing-om , yeah skimpy
[21:25] <Bashing-om> guiverc: We go with what we have !


[05:48] -BottyMcBotFace:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: Stephen Michael Kellat: End of January Miscellany @ http://coyote.works//posts/EndJan2020Miscellany/
[10:41] -BottyMcBotFace:#ubuntu-news- ::Portugal:: Ep 75 – Saudades do UBPorts? @ https://podcastubuntuportugal.org/e75/
[10:48] -BottyMcBotFace:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: Podcast Ubuntu Portugal: Ep 75 – Saudades do UBPorts? @ https://podcastubuntuportugal.org/e75/
[12:32] -BottyMcBotFace:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: Ubuntu Blog: Charmed OSM release SEVEN: Container network functions @ https://ubuntu.com/blog/charmed-osm-release-seven
[21:03] -BottyMcBotFace:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: Full Circle Magazine: Full Circle Magazine #153 @ https://fullcirclemagazine.org/2020/01/31/full-circle-magazine-153/


[16:13] <sil2100> GunnarHj: hey! I think we're looking good-enough to just be able to release the current -proposed langpacks for focal, right?
[18:40] <dbungert> I'm looking at a merge-o-matic for libxcrypt.  The only change since the last merge is a fix for the architecture alpha.  Is there motivation to merge it anyway, or just skip it for now and merge next time to reduce package chrun?
[18:41] <jawn-smith> Is any core dev available to restart a test? https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/request.cgi?release=impish&arch=arm64&package=livecd-rootfs&trigger=make-dfsg/4.3-4.1
[18:46] <mdeslaur> jawn-smith: done
[18:46] <bdmurray> dbungert: well you did put some time into researching it but given that it'd require sponsorship I'd say skip it
[18:46] <dbungert> bdmurray: I'll mark it to say that we should skip this version
[18:48] <jawn-smith> thanks mdeslaur!
[19:24] <GunnarHj> sil2100: Agreed. I haven't heard any objections.
[19:43] <GunnarHj> doko: Re bug #1939413: When googling around, it appeared to me that with LTO enabled you need to use the same compiler version all the way to avoid that kind of complaint. Noticed several similar issues. Anyway, will you look into the root cause?
[22:10] <mwhudson> uh shipping libraries with LTO data in sounds a bit crazy
[22:10] <mwhudson> but i am not here
[22:10]  * mwhudson goes away


[01:15] <thafreak> Unit193: oh, you were having problems with intel video chipset?
[01:15] <thafreak> That has seemed to be the most stable one I've used so far actually...
[01:20] <Unit193> Mine doesn't count, it's old.
[01:20] <thafreak> what chip is it attached to?
[01:21] <Unit193> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[01:32] <thafreak> is that on like a core2duo or older atom?
[01:35]  * Unit193 shouldn't say. :P
[01:35] <Unit193> P4.
[01:35] <thafreak> really? they had integrated graphics back then?
[01:35] <Unit193> CPU~Single core Intel Pentium 4 CPU (-UP-) clocked at 2789.457 Mhz Kernel~3.9-6.dmz.1-liquorix-686 i686 Up~8:36 Mem~1010.1/1958.0MB HDD~40.0GB(63.1% used) Procs~207 Client~Unknown : sshd inxi~1.9.8
[01:35] <thafreak> i guess just not on the cpu...
[01:35] <thafreak> i have some older p4's in my basement ;)
[01:36] <Unit193> I have a Pentium down there...
[01:36] <Unit193> Got anything newer down there? ;)
[01:36] <thafreak> oh yeah...
[01:36] <thafreak> i've been slowly replacing old power hungry stuff
[01:36] <thafreak> couple of pogo plugs
[01:37] <thafreak> a raspberry pi
[01:37] <thafreak> a newer amd e-350
[01:37] <thafreak> oh and an e-450 (freenas)
[01:37] <skellat> \o/ PLUG POWER!
[01:37] <Unit193> Yeah, I wanted to replace some with a Pi, but not fully sure it's powerful enough to do it well.
[01:37] <thafreak> you can get an 3-350 with 8 gb of ram for like $100
[01:38] <thafreak> s/3-350/e-350/g
[01:38] <jenni> thafreak meant to say: you can get an e-350 with 8 gb of ram for like $100
[01:38] <jenni> thafreak meant to say: you can get an e-350 with 8 gb of ram for like $100
[01:39] <Unit193> But, if it isn't powerful enough to do the one thing, I can fish up something else to put it on, I'd think...
[01:39] <thafreak> for anyone with vm images laying around...check out libguestfs and guestfish...very slick
[01:40] <thafreak> dude, an e-350 isn't half bad for most stuff...1.6ghz dual core
[01:40] <Unit193> You run your irssi on Pi?
[01:40] <Unit193> (Was thinking pi. :P )
[01:40] <Unit193> Something to sit atop the router and stay on all the time.
[01:40] <thafreak> and the full system with disk drives, etc, is only pulling like 30w at the wall
[01:41] <thafreak> yeah, that's what my basement pi is doing...
[01:41] <thafreak> has tmux and irssi running
[01:41] <Unit193> irssi, alpine, newsbeuter.  Also have a python bot, but not sure about the power of it.
[01:42] <thafreak> plus i have an nfs mount to my freenas with my home dir on it
[01:42] <thafreak> is alpine the email client forked from pine?
[01:42] <Unit193> Yep.
[01:42] <thafreak> how is it? better than mutt?
[01:42] <Unit193> Not used mutt. :P
[01:43] <Unit193> I like it well enough, I hear mutt may have some more features but for the most part I'm set.  This is actually kind of the fork of a fork, or a fork of a fork of a fork. :P
[01:43] <thafreak> i remember pine from back in the day...i never really used mutt either
[01:44] <Unit193> Ping > Alpine > re-alpine | alpine 2.10 (or, this may actually be on top of re-alpine.)
[01:46] <thafreak> bbl, gotta help move crap...getting carpet replaced, need to move my entire "office" :\
[01:46] <Unit193> Sure.
[21:31]  * skellat notes for the record that Unit193 indicated distinct interest upon ubuntulog disappearing at 1719 hours and only reappearing five minutes later
[21:49] <skellat> Oh, the joys of running a BeagleBoard-xM: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5772243/


[01:58] <pygi> hello
[01:58] <pygi> trying to configure bzr smart server
[01:58] <pygi> I get this when I try to pull
[01:58] <pygi> branch that is
[01:58] <pygi> bzr: ERROR: Unknown branch format: "error\x01Generic bzr smart protocol error: bad request 'GET /libisofs-ng/.bzr/branch-format HTTP/1.1\\r'"
[01:59] <jelmer> pygi: Looks like you are using http to access it??
[02:00] <pygi> jelmer, yup
[02:00] <pygi> jelmer, why wouldnt I be able to do that?
[02:01] <jelmer> pygi: The smart server talks a custom protocol
[02:01] <jelmer> use the bzr:// branching scheme
[02:01] <pygi> jelmer, and no way I could make it use http? :P
[02:03] <jelmer> pygi: No, you can use any HTTP server if you want http
[02:04] <pygi> if I had access, then yes :)
[02:07] <jelmer> pygi: ?
[02:07] <pygi> jelmer, to apache I meant :)
[02:07] <pygi> dont worry, I can just use bzr :)
[02:08] <pygi> bzr protocol I meant :p
[02:09] <pygi> ok, one more question
[02:09] <pygi> I run bzr serve on a custom protocol
[02:09] <pygi> how do I do branching/etc from that port?
[02:13] <Odd_Bloke> pygi: 'bzr branch bzr://<host>:<port>/<path, I would expect.
[02:13] <Odd_Bloke> I haven't used bzr serve in months though. :p
[02:17] <pygi> hmmmm, connection refused
[02:17] <pygi> I'll have to look into it
[02:17] <pygi> thanks Odd_Bloke
[04:54] <abentley> spiv: ping
[07:51] <ubotu> New bug: #186285 in bzr "commit fails if the working tree contains an unknown file with undecodable name" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186285
[08:47] <lifeless> hi
[09:03] <i386> lifeless: hi
[11:54] <snod> morning, are there bzr 1.1 packages for ubuntu gutsy available? the repository listed on the site still has 1.0
[11:54] <dato> snod, try https://launchpad.net/~bzr/+archive/
[11:56] <snod> ah thanks alot :)
[15:35] <ubotu> New bug: #181773 in bzr-svn "Incorrect revision numbers in bzr:revision-id:v3-trunk1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181773
[15:53] <jelmer> hmm, does bzr have problems with hardlinks?
[15:53] <jelmer> what sort of problems could a vcs have with hardlinks?
[16:14] <radix> jelmer: multiple hardlinks to the same file within one branch?
[16:14] <jelmer> radix: Why is that a problem?
[16:15] <radix> jelmer: I'm just asking if that's what you're doing.
[16:15] <jelmer> I somehow have the feeling I'm missing something obvious :-)
[16:15] <radix> It sounds like it could definitely lead to some weird behavior, but I don't know, it depends what you're expecting.
[16:15] <radix> jelmer: "hard links are scary" is the obvious thing :)
[16:15] <jelmer> (-:
[16:15] <dato> jelmer: do you mean hardlinks outside from .bzr only?
[16:15] <dato> outside of*
[16:15] <jelmer> dato: I'm adding support for bzr to etckeeper
[16:16] <jelmer> dato: and it complains for git and hg when it sees hardlinks
[16:16] <jelmer> I was wondering if it should do that for bzr as well
[16:17] <radix> Imagine two files linked to the same resource. Merge from a branch that changes each of them in distinct ways.
[16:17] <radix> hard links are generally a bad idea. :-)
[16:19] <snod> i just wonder: has anybody tried to use bzr over sshfs?
[16:20] <radix> snod: no, but I wouldn't want to, because sshfs is really unreliable (for me at least)
[16:20] <radix> snod: I assume you're talking about the FUSE-using filesystem
[16:20] <radix> I wonder why you'd want to use it instead of just pushing to bzr+ssh URLs
[16:22] <snod> i don't want to commit every tiny change
[16:22] <radix> tiny change?
[16:22] <radix> why would you need to do that?
[16:23] <snod> as far as i understand a push just pushed commited revisions?
[16:23] <radix> yes.
[16:23] <snod> *pushes
[16:23] <radix> (you can also 'bind', which creates a checkout, which means committed revisions are automatically pushed)
[16:24] <snod> so if i edit a file locally and have to try/execute/whatever it on a remote place i would have to do a commit for every change i do in the src file?
[16:24] <radix> ok, so you want to try/execute/whatever it on a remote place. that wasn't clear.
[16:25] <snod> :)
[16:25] <asabil> you will need a bzr update
[16:25] <asabil> on the remote side to update the tree
[16:25] <radix> asabil: well, he doesn't even want to commit in the first place, so update isn't going to help either :)
[16:26] <snod> i just ried bzr on an sshfs-mounted dir
[16:26] <snod> gives me an error: bzr: ERROR: exceptions.AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'abort'
[16:26] <radix> snod: well, like I said, I would avoid using sshfs because I've found it pretty unreliable, even for simple read-only stuff.
[16:26] <snod> i will keep that in mind :)
[16:27] <snod> (the error occurs on commit, init and add worked)
[16:32] <asabil> snod: why don't you want to commit ?
[16:32] <jelmer> wow, that was easy
[16:32] <jelmer> etckeeper support for bzr in < 30 minutes
[16:34] <snod> asabil: the changes are tiny like forgotten brackets or a misspelled word
[16:34] <asabil> snod: those deserve commits as well
[16:35] <asabil> snod: what you are trying to do will bring troubles upon you
[16:35] <asabil> and it is exactly what makes Visual Source Safe so ... Unsafe
[17:45] <ubotu> New bug: #159143 in bzr-svn "Handling of svn:author" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/159143
[18:37] <vila> radix: I use bzr over sshfs for months without nay problems (using -o workaround=rename solved the only problem I ever encountered)
[18:43] <jelmer> hey vila
[18:43] <jelmer> vila: do you happen to know how to retrieve a configuration variable for a specific section?
[19:08] <vila> jelmer: from memory, it should be possible to query a ConfigObj object for a specific section and get a dict in return
[19:17] <jelmer> vila: Ah, yep
[19:17] <jelmer> Just found it
[19:21] <jelmer> hmm, is it possible to change the tree from a pre-commit hook?
[19:22] <jelmer> crap, apparentlynot :-(
[19:25]  * jelmer files a bug
[19:30] <ubotu> New bug: #186422 in bzr "Ability to modify the tree from a pre-commit hook" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186422
[19:38] <bronson> I have a legacy svn tree...   I'd like to check a bzr project into a branch in that tree.
[19:38] <bronson> Is there a good way of doing this?
[19:38] <bronson> Normally I want to manipulate svn trees in bzr...   This time, though, I want the opposite.
[19:45] <jelmer> bronson: I think "bzr svn-push" is what you're looking for
[19:46] <bronson> jelmer: hm, probably.
[19:46] <bronson> I'll have to read up on it.
[19:53] <bronson> jelmer: "bzr: ERROR: These branches have diverged. Use the merge command to reconcile them."
[19:53] <jelmer> bronson: You can't push to an existing branch
[19:53] <bronson> But that doesn't really make sense since this branch has never existed in svn.
[19:53] <bronson> The branch in svn is empty.
[19:53] <jelmer> bronson: Empty is an existing branch
[19:54] <bronson> Hm, I'm not understanding...  How am I supposed to set up the svn-push?
[19:55] <jelmer> bronson: from inside of the bzr branch, run something like:
[19:56] <jelmer> bzr svn-push svn://host/repository-path/branches/mynewbranch
[19:56] <jelmer> where svn://host/repository-path/branches exists but "newbranch" doesnt yet
[19:57] <bronson> Ah.  And then I populate mynewbranch with another bzr branch, then push it all back up to the host repo.
[21:44] <lifeless> moin
[21:51] <brink_> Does bzr split work?
[22:13] <jelmer> hey lifeless
[22:41] <igc> morning
[22:43] <abentley> lifeless: morning
[22:44] <lifeless> hey abentley
[22:44] <lifeless> public holiday here, so I'm not really around :)
[22:44] <abentley> When'd you get back?
[22:46] <abentley> brink_: yes
[22:48] <igc> hi lifeless (who isn't actually around) :-)
[22:48] <igc> hi abentley
[22:48] <abentley> Hi igc
[22:49] <igc> abentley: still in Oz?
[22:49] <abentley> Nope, got home yesterday.
[22:49] <igc> cool. Hope you had a good trip
[22:50] <abentley> It was good, and I'm glad I went.  I'm missing the warm weather.
[22:50] <igc> :-)
[22:50] <abentley> Went from a t-shirt to a fleece shirt and down jacket.
[22:55] <brink_> abentley:  I can use split to remove a directory, but the directory turns into a totally messed up branch.   I've tried every combination of upgrades from pack-0.92 I could think of.   None of them seem to work.  I'm using 1.1o on OS X.
[22:55] <abentley> In what way is it messed up?
[22:57] <brink_> It's messed up like this: bzr 1.1.0 on python 2.5.1.final.0 (darwin)
[22:57] <brink_> arguments: ['/opt/local/bin/bzr', 'commit', '-msplit']
[22:57] <brink_> encoding: 'US-ASCII', fsenc: 'utf-8', lang: None
[22:57] <brink_> plugins:
[22:57] <brink_>   difftools            /Users/joe/.bazaar/plugins/difftools [unknown]
[22:57] <brink_>   extmerge             /Users/joe/.bazaar/plugins/extmerge [unknown]
[22:57] <brink_>   launchpad            /opt/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/bzrlib/plugins/launchpad [unknown]
[22:57] <brink_>   lessdiff             /Users/joe/.bazaar/plugins/lessdiff [unknown]
[22:57] <brink_>   multiparent          /opt/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/bzrlib/plugins/multiparent.pyc [unknown]
[22:58] <brink_> *** Bazaar has encountered an internal error.
[22:58] <brink_>     Please report a bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/bzr/+filebug
[22:58] <brink_>     including this traceback, and a description of what you
[22:58] <brink_>     were doing when the error occurred.
[22:58] <abentley> Please use a pastebin for that.
[22:58] <brink_> Sorry.  What's pastebin?
[22:58] <abentley> ubotu: paste
[22:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[23:00] <brink_> Here is the error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53801/
[23:02] <brink_> Basically, I did a bzr split <dir>, went into <dir> and did a bzr commit -m"split"
[23:03] <brink_> It seems like bazaar decided all the stuff from the root needed to be renamed into the subdirectory.   When I do a commit on it then it chokes.
[23:03] <abentley> brink_: I believe a bug is already registered for that.
[23:03] <abentley> I'm looking it up
[23:04] <brink_> Is there a work around?
[23:04] <abentley> bug 185211
[23:04] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 185211 in bzr "bzr commit fails on imported branch when renaming a directory with non-ASCII-name" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185211
[23:05] <igc> bbiab
[23:06] <abentley> I'm not aware of one.
[23:06] <brink_> I do not believe that any of my characters are non-ascii.
[23:06] <abentley> The traceback is the same, isn't it?
[23:07] <brink_> That may be, but if so the title of the bug is incorrect.  My characters are all ASCII.
[23:10] <abentley> Well, I would say these look like two symptoms of the same underlying problem.
[23:22] <abentley> brink_: I can't reproduce the bug here, btw.
[23:22] <abentley> Not with split, I mean.
[23:43] <brink_> Not sure I can make a smaller example.  I'll give it a try.


[02:59] <smoser> does anyone know of doc on /sys/class/net/<devname>/stuff
[02:59] <smoser> ie, my 'eth0' has:
[02:59] <smoser> addr_assign_type address addr_len broadcast carrier device dev_id dormant duplex flags ifalias ifindex iflink link_mode mtu netdev_group operstate power queues speed statistics subsystem tx_queue_len type uevent
[03:00] <smoser> you can guess some of that stuff.. but 'iflink' with '2' seems to mean "connected"
[05:10] <ppisati> moin
[06:39] <zequence-work> apw: Going to do SRUs today and came to think about the saucy kernel :). You wanted to do another update for it?
[07:34] <smb> zequence, He may care tomorrow. Today is a bank holiday where he is.
[07:35] <smb> ppisati, Moin and welcome back. Apparently not sunk or drowned. :)
[07:36] <ppisati> smb: yep, i'm alive! :)
[07:36] <ppisati> smb: and i'm drowning in email _now_...
[07:36] <ppisati> 11k emails in the lkml folder.... :P
[07:37] <smb> ppisati, Meh, mark all + delete
[07:37] <ppisati> eh...
[07:38] <ppisati> i had a smarter idea: i decided to change all my email filters to better cope with insane volume of emails the lkml* generate...
[07:39] <ppisati> guess what? my inbox is a mess now...
[07:39] <smb> You thought changing any filtering *before* going on vacation is smart? :)
[07:40] <ppisati> :(
[12:22]  * henrix -> lunch
[12:45] <ppisati> anyone with some gmail-filtering-foo around?
[12:46] <ogra_> just use a proper mail program :P
[12:46] <ppisati> ogra_: filtering server side
[12:46] <ppisati> ogra_: on gmail
[12:46] <ogra_> just use a proper mail server :P
[12:47] <ppisati> if i could filetr all the msgs coming from "list:(<*.vger.kernel.org>)" instead of per ml (e.g. list:(<netdev.vger.kernel.org>),  list:"<linux-usb.vger.kernel.org>", etcetc)
[12:47] <ppisati> i would simplify A LOT my email filtering setup
[12:47] <ppisati> ogra_: eh...
[12:47] <ogra_> :)
[13:07] <smb> rtg, Maybe its early in the day, but would you know a a place that documents net device sysfs attributes that smoser was asking about?
[13:08] <rtg> smb, huh ?
[13:08] <smb> (other than rtfs of course :))
 04:59:03> does anyone know of doc on /sys/class/net/<devname>/stuff
[13:09] <rtg> smb, dunno, might be something buried in the Documentation directory of the kernel
[13:10] <smb> Thats what I hoped but at least the one thing I was grepping for was not mentioned at all (ifalias)
[17:19]  * rtg -> lunch
[19:39] <rtg> jjohansen, I have a kernel update for tangerine when you're done building.
[19:40] <jjohansen> rtg: ack
[19:48] <rtg> jjohansen, how are you building your kernels ?
[19:48] <jjohansen> rtg: fdr binary-generic usually
[19:48] <rtg> jjohansen, you know that gets limited by fakeroot, right ?
[19:49] <rtg> your build parallelism, that is
[19:49] <jjohansen> rtg: yeah, but I usually have the kernel pre built so that its just the apparmor bits being built and then packaging
[19:50] <jjohansen> that is I am removing the stamps file, and then doing incremental rebuilds
[19:50] <rtg> right
[19:51] <jjohansen> rtg: ok I out
[19:51] <jjohansen> err, I'm out
[19:51] <rtg> kamal, bouncing tangerine for kernel update
[19:51] <kamal> rtg, ok thanks
[19:57] <rtg> jjohansen, kamal: tangerine is back online
[19:59] <jjohansen> thanks
[20:05]  * rtg -> EOD
[22:06] <bdmurray> apw: has anything happened with bug 882147?
[22:06] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 882147 in coreutils (Ubuntu) "overlayfs does not implement inotify interfaces correctly" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/882147
[22:35] <infinity> bdmurray: Oh, erm.  I had some fiddling I was doing with coreutils to try to work around it for tail.  The kernel side is pretty much hopeless, though.
[22:37] <bdmurray> infinity: ah, great
[23:01] <stgraber> infinity: other than have people use "busybox tail"? :)


[06:54] <hyperair> hmm, how do i change the default photo manager from shotwell to f-spot?
[06:54] <hyperair> interestingly, i can't change this in preferred applications
[07:06] <jbicha> hyperair: are you using Gnome 2 or Gnome 3?
[07:06] <hyperair> jbicha: gnome 2 + unity.
[07:06] <hyperair> jbicha: i just dug through unity's source code and found that it's hardcoded to shotwell with a FIXME notice
[07:07] <jbicha> is there a bug for that?
[07:07] <hyperair> fortunately, it has hardcoded alternatives, so i just uninstalled shotwell and it falls back upon f-spot =)
[07:07] <hyperair> i wonder
[07:07] <hyperair> but there really isn't a gconf key to look at
[07:07] <hyperair> so it's not really unity's bug, is it?
[07:08] <jbicha> well they could look at the defaults.list for .jpg's for instance
[07:08] <hyperair> hm
[07:08] <hyperair> that's not quite right.
[07:08] <hyperair> eog isn't a photo manager.
[13:46] <Sofox> Hey, is mpt around?
[16:20] <sumit> hiii friends
[16:21] <sumit> I have some problems with my Ubuntu 10.10
[16:21] <sumit> I am a new user
[16:22] <sumit> My computer is hanging frequently .. what do
[16:22] <sumit> also suggest anything like folderlock or password protecting software
[16:25] <sumit> any1??
[16:26] <Ampelbein> sumit: user support is in #ubuntu
[16:26] <sumit> ok
[16:26] <sumit> thanks


[17:48] <k1l_> * Arse_ (~Arse_@unaffiliated/arse/x-6693333)  was there some decision/opinion on that username? iirc there were some users complainng about that nick
 Windows 8 uses ASICs to assist it in booting up.
[19:30] <bazhang> yeah no
[19:32] <ikonia> twiler has been in before with nonsense
[19:33] <bazhang> unless win8 is a auto*coin miner, then he's waaay wrong
[19:33] <bazhang> not to mention offtopic
[20:05] <ikonia> I'm trying to talk to him in private, so you can probably remove the ban
[20:05] <ikonia> see if he gets it,
[20:05] <bazhang> I am waiting on that
[20:06] <bazhang> he was baiting for a long while, and this is not the first time, not by a long shot
[20:06] <bazhang> that, and the total nonsense offtopic rambling with misinfo at that
[20:07] <ikonia> can you remove the ban and let him back in
[20:08] <ikonia> (please)
[20:08] <bazhang> for more apologies?
[20:08] <ikonia> he should stop now
[20:09] <bazhang> done
[20:09] <ikonia> ta
[20:10] <bazhang> on a short leash however
 thirdposition, #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:47] <bazhang> heads up


[00:57] <simplify> (I'm new to using IRC chat, btw.) Hello, I get an error while building the Precise 12.04.4 kernel in a VM, and also on the host system (a laptop). The same error has occurred at a different (I think) file each time during the compile process. I need help, and I haven't found any solution on the web. (and I found only one person asking about an issue with these symptoms on the web.) On the laptop I am building linux-lts-
[00:57] <simplify> raring-3.8.0, and in the VM I'm building linux-lts-saucy-3.11.0. The only change I have made in the amd64 kernel configuration is specifying the location of the dsdt.aml file. Here are the applicable lines of (error) output:
[00:58] <simplify>   CC [M]  fs/xfs/xfs_ioctl32.o␤
[00:58] <simplify>   LD [M]  fs/xfs/xfs.o␤
[00:58] <simplify>   LD      fs/built-in.o␤
[00:58] <simplify> make[1]: *** [sub-make] Error 2␤
[00:58] <simplify> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/luc/linux-lts-saucy-3.11.0'␤
[00:58] <simplify> make: *** [/home/luc/linux-lts-saucy-3.11.0/debian/stamps/stamp-build-generic] Error 2␤
[00:58] <simplify> luc@ubuntukernel:~/linux-lts-saucy-3.11.0$␤
[00:58] <simplify> Linux ubuntukernel 3.11.0-15-generic #25~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jan 30 17:39:31 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux␤
[00:58] <simplify> By the way, I followed these instructions: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel
[07:47] <apw> simplify (N,BFTL), there would likely have been an error before that one ... look back for eror
[07:48] <apw> Bharat (N,BFTL), yes you should file a bug and try and describe "not responsive" in more detail
[13:34] <diwic> oookay... so I used the --no-signed-off-by-cc switch and yet git sends cc to Intel and tiwai...?!
[13:34] <rtg> diwic, --suppress-cc=all
[13:34] <diwic> rtg, right
[13:35] <diwic> rtg, I'll remember that for next time
[13:35] <rtg> I've done it a couple of times
[13:35] <diwic> the thing is, with this switch it didn't even ask. It just sent the emails
[13:35] <diwic> but actually maybe there was some sense to it after all
[13:36] <diwic> maybe tiwai didn't get htem
[13:36] <diwic> just the patch author
[13:36] <rtg> it is kind of the default workflow
[15:10] <lpwrobin> test irc
[15:31] <jsalisbury> **
[15:31] <jsalisbury> ** Ubuntu Kernel Team Meeting - Today @ 17:00 UTC - #ubuntu-meeting
[15:31] <jsalisbury> **
[15:57] <arges> rtg: how do we verify intel-microcode updates? just install and reboot?
[15:57] <arges> iff you have intel hardware
[15:58] <rtg> arges, lemme check on a SNB server that I have
[15:58] <arges> rtg: no hurry. just wondering how its done
[15:58] <rtg> arges, I just load the package and look in dmesg
[15:59] <rtg> arges, there isn't anything in -proposed ?
[15:59] <arges> rtg: well i just accepted it.. so may take a bit
[16:00] <rtg> ah, well I'll just have to be patient
[16:00] <arges> : )
[16:55] <jsalisbury> ##
[16:55] <jsalisbury> ## Kernel team meeting in 5 minutes
[16:55] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:22] <rtg> rsalveti, all of the touch kernels have been refreshed with CVE updates, etc. You can find them at https://launchpad.net/~canonical-kernel-team/+archive/ppa/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=utopic
[17:28] <amitk> rtg: just curious, how many touch kernels do you have?
[17:28] <rtg> amitk, flo, goldfish, manta, and mako
[17:29] <amitk> rtg: these are google devices?
[17:29] <rtg> amitk, all except goldfish which is the Android emulator kernel
[17:29] <amitk> *google device codenames?
[17:30] <rtg> Nexus, Nexus 7, and Nexus 10
[17:30] <amitk> rtg: anything that is newer than 3.4?
[17:30] <rtg> nope, all are 3.4
[17:35] <amitk> rtg: any plans to support nexus 5?
[17:36] <rtg> amitk, not to my knowledge, but then I'm not really driving the platform selection either.
[17:36] <rtg> amitk, ogra_ probably has better info then I do
[17:49] <ogra_> amitk, we have a nexus5 build but dont support it officially
[17:51] <amitk> ogra_: thx, will check it out one of these days
[17:52] <ogra_> amitk, http://2buntu.com/articles/1489/installing-ubuntu-touch-on-a-nexus-5/