[02:37] <jason_ubuntuislo> tonyyarusso, if you want a automatic thing its a little more complicated i cant help you unless u know how to program
[02:37] <kelsin> xLE: I don't know, probably need to find the homepage for the readline library
[02:37] <hobbit_> everytime i accidentally bump my wireless usb it goes out on me and i have to restart to get a connection. Any ideas?
[02:38] <underdaw1> when I do a vncserver:2 it says error in locking authority file /home/person/.Xauthority
[02:38] <underdaw1> what's that about?
[02:38] <Neodudeman> kelsin: and what if there's a 5-letter ascii wep?
[02:38] <tonyyarusso> jason_ubuntuislo: I don't :(  Hopefully there will be a conduit data provider or something available soon
[02:38] <jason_ubuntuislo> hobbit_, its possible the usb is not being reloaded did you do a dmesg to see if its showing an issue
[02:38] <Neodudeman> kelsin: sike, i'll just look up the man pages; ty
[02:38] <hobbit_> idk what that is
[02:38] <wers> how do i enable the expo?
[02:38] <kelsin> Neodudeman: you should look up the syntax of the iwconfig command with "man iwconfig" it has another command (like essid) to set the wep key
[02:38] <jason_ubuntuislo> tonyyarusso, some many things to build so little time
[02:39] <hvgotcodes> someone gave me advice (so i can safely update from feisty -> gutsy) to remove 3rd party sources and software
[02:39] <hvgotcodes> i removed the sources
[02:39] <hvgotcodes> but i do not see any orphaned packages
[02:39] <Neodudeman> kelsin: oh. I didn't know that man was a command. lol. ty
[02:39] <kelsin> xLE: I would recommend trying to compile the haskell compiler rather then trying to get another copy of libreadline
[02:39] <jason_ubuntuislo> iwconfig set wlan0 essid MYLAN i think
[02:39] <kelsin> Neodudeman: man is the most important command on your system, PERIOD
[02:40] <Neodudeman> kelsin: lol. ya, i've been asking google, but this is much more conveinient
[02:40] <wers> i'm playing with compiz fusion for the first time. what keys do i press for the plugins?
[02:40] <wers> how do i enable expo?
[02:40] <mkrk> hi everyone, my thinkpad (z61t) keeps crashing after sleep. I just installed Gutsy yesterday. Any help would be great.
[02:40] <xLE> i have compiled hsc
[02:40] <ruthmann_> Can anyone recommend a good program to rip internet radio stations, that can split it into separate files by a specified length?
[02:40] <crdlb> wers: Windows key + E
[02:40] <LjL> tonyyarusso: uhm why do you need to "synchronize", doesn't gmail now support POP3?
[02:40] <kelsin> !ccsm | wers
[02:40] <ubotu> wers: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[02:40] <kitche> wers: : you need to enable them though ccsm
[02:40] <kitche> LjL: you mean IMAP?
[02:40] <xLE> kelsin, i have compiled ghc?
[02:40] <LjL> kitche: well either or both of them
[02:40] <kelsin> xLE: sorry, I thought you said you downloaded the binaries
[02:40] <jason_ubuntuislo> LjL yes and imap too
[02:41] <kelsin> xLE: you downloaded the binaries for the irc package?
[02:41] <Neodudeman> jason_ubuntuislo: good news, I found the session menu in my theme; I just started mashing all of the buttons until something worked. and it did! so now back in gnome, and off to bed. Thanks for your help!
[02:41] <wers> wow!
[02:41] <wers> coool!
[02:41] <nibsa1242b> can anyone guide me though reporting a bug?
[02:41] <wers> how about the cube?
[02:41] <hobbit_> idk guess i have to restart to get online
[02:41] <jason_ubuntuislo> Neodudeman, he no problem i try
[02:41] <kitche> LjL: I heard their IMAP support isn't that great but imap is what people are starting to use though since it syncs all desktop email instead of having email all over I haven't tried it though
[02:41] <ruthmann_> no suggestions?
[02:41] <kelsin> wers: download that ccsm package then you can see all the keys, setup new plugins and change the keybindings if youw ant
[02:41] <wers> i'm runnign a live cd right now
[02:41] <jason_ubuntuislo> LjL, yes but i love thier search in gmail no email program can compare
[02:41] <xLE> kelsin, i downloaded ghc binaries then did a ./configure..etc << ?
[02:42] <tonyyarusso> LjL: Multiple computers?
[02:42] <tonyyarusso> LjL: Choice of being able to flip back and forth between desktop clients and the web interface?
[02:42] <LjL> tonyyarusso, why doesn't POP or IMAP allow that?
[02:42] <nibsa1242b> I need help reporting a bug. If I search for the project in Launchpad it says the project isn't registered and that I can register it myself. Should I?
[02:42] <Zimp_> is there an automatic way to update ipw2200 drivers in gusty ?
[02:42] <jason_ubuntuislo> tonyyarusso, you could also see if theres a program to interface into the gmail ive seen those out there
[02:42] <kitche> tonyyarusso: imap allows that if you use it
[02:42] <steve_> wobbly windows anyone
[02:43] <tonyyarusso> kitche: How?
[02:43] <Milos_SD>  Hi, all... I have Leadtek WinFast 2000/XP Global tv card ... How can I make it work? When I do this: modprobe cx88xx card=xx and modprobe cx8800 I alwas get card=5 in dmesg output.
[02:43] <kelsin> xLE: if you downloaded the binaries then you did not compile it, I would recommend doing one of two things 1) download the ghc source and really compile it, or 2) read the instructions on the ghc site next to the binary download, they have an rpm of readline 4 RIGHT THERE
[02:43] <tonyyarusso> LjL: Maybe I'm just not aware of it - enlighten me?
[02:43] <jason_ubuntuislo> kitche, he wants to sync his contacts too
[02:43] <LjL> tonyyarusso, i must simply be missing something of what you want to do
[02:43] <jason_ubuntuislo> kitche, i didnt know imap could do this
[02:43] <kelsin> xLE: you can download it, use the "alien" package to convert to a deb, and try installing that if you want
[02:43] <kitche> tonyyarusso: just configure your email clients for imap and enable it in gmail and there you go I have no clue about contacts though
[02:43] <eido> is it possible to break a linux gnu box by just pulling the plug on it?
[02:43] <kitche> jason_ubuntuislo: me neither but I m not usre but gmail might have an export command for them
[02:43] <LjL> tonyyarusso: contacts as they say, possibly
[02:43] <kelsin> eido: you can corrupt the file system yes
[02:44] <nibsa1242b> eido: it won't be happy about it if you do
[02:44] <kelsin> eido: (just like any modren OS)
[02:44] <kelsin> eido: *modern
[02:44] <jason_ubuntuislo> kitche, yes i posted a way to export to csv but he wants them updated all the time
[02:44] <hvgotcodes> what does installed (local or obsolete) mean in the package manager?
[02:44] <tonyyarusso> LjL, kitche: ... I know I can do the mail with IMAP - hence the question just about contacts.
[02:44] <nibsa1242b> I need help figuring out how to file a bug report.
[02:44] <ruthmann_> \Can anyone recommend a good program to rip internet radio stations, that can split it into separate files by a specified length?
[02:44] <jason_ubuntuislo> kitche, he needs a script to download and sync
[02:45] <tritium> nibsa1242b: you need to register on launchpad, and then you can
[02:45] <kelsin> !bug | nibsa1242b
[02:45] <ubotu> nibsa1242b: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[02:45] <jason_ubuntuislo> ruthmann_, does this help http://www.xpheas.com/Rip-Internet-Radio_a9.html
[02:45] <nibsa1242b> tritium: I am registered, but it says that the project: flpsed isn't registered
[02:46] <kitche> tonyyarusso: let me log in to gmail and see something
[02:46] <ruthmann_> jason: have  u used it before?
[02:46] <kelsin> nibsa1242b: if it's an ubuntu bug you want to file it in the ubuntu project
[02:46] <nibsa1242b> ok
[02:46] <kitche> tonyyarusso: sicne I believe they might have an application and I have to check my email anyways :)
[02:46] <jason_ubuntuislo> ruthmann_, nope just suggesting that its around
[02:46] <tritium> nibsa1242b: you'd report the bug against the ubuntu package, not the project
[02:46] <nibsa1242b> kelsin: tritium: I'm new to these things. I've only ever reported one bug before. Not sure exactly how to go about using the launchpad site.
[02:47] <xLE> how do i search for a specific package?
[02:47] <tonyyarusso> kitche: :)
[02:47] <xLE> apt-get search package_name*?
[02:47] <jason_ubuntuislo> sudo aptitude search
[02:47] <tritium> nibsa1242b: I'm about to host a LoCo meeting.  Perhaps kelsin can assist...
[02:47] <jason_ubuntuislo> sudo aptitude search PACKAGENAME
[02:47] <nibsa1242b> kelsin: tritium: I think I'll be ok. I googled it and found the bug has already been reported on launchpad
[02:47] <LjL> jason_ubuntuislo: sudo with "search"? no need.
[02:47] <jason_ubuntuislo> LjL, ohh really
[02:47] <kelsin> nibsa1242b: you goto bugs.ubuntu.com and click on "Report a bug"
[02:47] <kelsin> nibsa1242b: well then you're all set
[02:48] <LjL> jason_ubuntuislo: yes really, why would one need root privilges to just *search* for a package? you aren't touching anything in the filesystem.
[02:48] <nibsa1242b> kelsin: yep, and the great thing is that there is a simple work around
[02:48] <jason_ubuntuislo> LjL, i always seem to use sudo because every time i do something it yells and says hey no permissions man !
[02:48] <tritium> apt-cache search and aptitude search do not require sudo
[02:48] <toresn_> what is the most common convention for naming multiple word directories, e.g. "a new directory" ?
[02:48] <nibsa1242b> kelsin: I'm happy. I often need the pdf editing power of flpsed.
[02:49] <crdlb> toresn_: what do you mean by "convention"?
[02:49] <xLE> kelsin, rpm is not for ubuntu?
[02:49] <kelsin> xLE: ubuntu does not use rpms, but we have the "alien" package that will convert rpm->deb
[02:49] <jason_ubuntuislo> xLE, alien will convert it
[02:49] <PriceChild> !alien | xLE kelsin jason_ubuntuislo
[02:49] <ubotu> xLE kelsin jason_ubuntuislo: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[02:50] <kelsin> xLE: it's not reliable and for big important packages not safe, but might work for this case
[02:50] <toresn_> crdlb: etiquette
[02:50] <kitche> tonyyarusso: well I didn't see anything about clients but might want to do some searching about it
[02:50] <crdlb> toresn_: well I generally try to avoid it if that's what you mean, except for pure document folders (eg music grouped by artist/album)
[02:51] <kitche> tonyyarusso: clients/contacts
[02:51] <astro76> toresn_, most often - for space, then _, but _ is more a pain to type ;)
[02:52] <astro76> toresn_, also if you are talking web accessible... google sees - as space, but not _
[02:52] <toresn_> ok, tnx
[02:52] <hvgotcodes> ok i think all 3rd party software is out
[02:52] <hvgotcodes> what is the best way to upgrade from feisty to gutsy?
[02:52] <PriceChild> !upgrade | hvgotcodes
[02:53] <ubotu> hvgotcodes: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:53] <jason_ubuntuislo> PriceChild, man your fast
[02:53] <hvgotcodes> thanx
[02:53] <Klick__> Hey all, does anyone know of a program that can make a avi or mpg or whatever type of video out of whatever is being displayed on your screen?
[02:53] <astro76> !screencast | Klick__
[02:53] <ubotu> Klick__: Some programs to capture your screen are Istanbul, Wink, Gvidcap, Xvidcap, vnc2swf, demorecorder.  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts.
[02:53] <Klick__> which one of them do you like the best
[02:56] <altg> hie all
[02:56] <fabio> people
[02:56] <fabio> i want to run gta san andreas in ubuntu
[02:56] <NemesisD> how would i set up SSH to only allow access to a few specific IPs?
[02:56] <altg> do you know Jbrout ??
[02:56] <fabio> i have wine
[02:56] <apox64928> anyone  running a proliant ML310?
[02:56] <fabio> but the graphis is very slow
[02:56] <fabio> no to mutch
[02:57] <fabio> any one can help?
[02:57] <kelsin> nibsa1242b: "man sshd_config" then edit your /etc/ssh/sshd_config accordingly
[02:58] <fabio> Kelsin
[02:58] <fabio> u there
[02:58] <hvgotcodes> will removing xfce-desktop remove all xfce packages?
[02:58] <hvgotcodes> i mean xubuntu-desktop
[02:59] <Snuxoll> no
[02:59] <Snuxoll> but it will kill dist-upgrades
[02:59] <jason_ubuntuislo> where can i find all irc logs? are they logged without me having to have a bot log them?
[02:59] <fabio> how to acelerate the grapics in ubuntu
[03:00] <kitche> hvgotcodes: you have to remove xfce4 xubuntu-desktop is just a meta package
[03:00] <rsvampire> I've got a problem with Ubuntu detecting my onboard sound card even when it's disabled in the BIOS. Can anyone help me?
[03:00] <kitche> jason_ubuntuislo: depends on the client if it's enabled or not most are kept in ~/.<application> though
[03:00] <xLE> so how do I use this alien?
[03:01] <Kenai> does anybody know if Beryl works on a Dell with an nVidia running gutsy
[03:01] <hvgotcodes> are the instructions at this url good? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=394764
[03:01] <kitche> Kenai: yes
[03:01] <jason_ubuntuislo> kitche, is it possible freenode logs them?
[03:01] <hvgotcodes> is see libgfsgnome
[03:01] <kelsin> xLE: install it with "sudo apt-get install alien" then I would look in "man alien"
[03:01] <fabio> kenai download a envy pakagr
[03:01] <kitche> jason_ubuntuislo: umm the network doesn't but channels do they usually have to say it in topic now with the IRSeek way of doing it
[03:01] <xLE> rgr dat.
[03:01] <kahrytan> The topic is wrong
[03:01] <kahrytan> Flash Install is not broken
[03:02] <kitche> kahrytan: it was earilier
[03:02] <kahrytan> I updated it fine
[03:02] <Kenai> kitche- envy pakagr? after that, would I be able to install the themes, or do I need another program?
[03:02] <kitche> kahrytan: yes but earilier it was broken
[03:02] <jason_ubuntuislo> kitche, is it possible to search for phrases under irc logged?
[03:02] <kitche> kahrytan: just that some people still haven't updated their databases yet so they might run into the problem
[03:03] <kitche> jason_ubuntuislo: umm yeah
[03:03] <NeoPhyte21> can someon help me out? im running gutsy and trying to compile a program but keep getting an error saying pkg-config can't find gtk+-2.0.pc file (i have gimp installed and working so i know gtk+ is instaled, and i just installed the dev files) so what am i missing?
[03:03] <kahrytan> kitche➲  synaptic reloads updates it
[03:03] <kitche> kahrytan: yep not all people refresh though
[03:03] <kahrytan> kitche➲  oops. Update Managerdoes
[03:03] <crdlb> !find gtk+-2.0.pc | NeoPhyte21
[03:04] <ubotu> neophyte21: File gtk+-2.0.pc found in libgtk-directfb-2.0-dev, libgtk2.0-dev, lsb-build-desktop3
[03:04] <kahrytan> kitche➲  How else does it check for updates
[03:04] <crdlb> NeoPhyte21: you want the second one
[03:04] <kitche> kahrytan: but what about the people that haven't installed flsh yet but comes across this problem :)
[03:04] <kitche> flash*
[03:04] <jason_ubuntuislo> kitche, could you inform me? how this is done?
[03:04] <kahrytan> kitche➲  and they install fixed one
[03:04] <NeoPhyte21> ya i did an apt-get install libgtk2.0dev and it installed like 43mb of stuff
[03:04] <kitche> jason_ubuntuislo: see if /lastlog shows you anything
[03:05] <kahrytan> kitche➲  regardless, topic needs an update.
[03:05] <kitche> kahrytan: yep just that an op haven't changed the topic yet since *it* was just updated
[03:05] <crdlb> NeoPhyte21: clearly it's not installed
[03:05] <kelsin> NeoPhyte21: does the /usr/lib/pkconfig/gtk+-2.0.pc file exist?
[03:05] <NeoPhyte21> libgtk2.0-dev is already the newest version.
[03:05] <kahrytan> kitche➲  in couple days?
[03:05] <NeoPhyte21> kelsin: yes
[03:06] <kelsin> NeoPhyte21: also did you install the build-essential package?
[03:06] <jason_ubuntuislo> kitche, nope
[03:06] <crdlb> NeoPhyte21: pastebin the exact error
[03:06] <kitche> jason_ubuntuislo: then you client most likely is not loggin
[03:06] <crdlb> !pastebin
[03:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:06] <kahrytan> Thank You, PC
[03:06] <sunogbaga> jason_ubuntuislo: what irc client are you using? just open it with an editor then press CTRL+F
[03:06] <hvgotcodes> how long will upgrade take?
[03:07] <sunogbaga> jason_ubuntuislo: i mean open it's log
[03:07] <kitche> jason_ubuntuislo:  anyways I m going to bed have to work tomorrow
[03:07] <Zimp_> Can someone help me with an issue following the guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=501148&highlight=ipw2200
[03:07] <Zimp_> ?
[03:07] <jason_ubuntuislo> kitche, Night
[03:07] <Josie> Hey can anyone offer me any help with Wubi?
[03:08] <jason_ubuntuislo> sunogbaga, but is there a web search i mean?
[03:08] <kitche> !wubi | Josie
[03:08] <ubotu> Josie: wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html
[03:08] <NeoPhyte21> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48169/
[03:08] <sunogbaga> jason_ubuntuislo: what irc client are you using?
[03:08] <Zimp_> sudo mv /usr/src/linux /usr/src/linux_bak
[03:08] <Zimp_> mvanbaak: cannot stat `/usr/src/linux': No such file or directory
[03:08] <jason_ubuntuislo> chatzilla
[03:08] <Alyxander> hey guys whats the best way to add music to my videos?
[03:08] <Josie> Yes yes I know that.
[03:08] <sunogbaga> jason_ubuntuislo: can you set it to log all messages..
[03:09] <kahrytan> !info pitivi | Alyxander
[03:09] <ubotu> alyxander: pitivi: non-linear audio/video editor using GStreamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.3-1 (gutsy), package size 167 kB, installed size 1004 kB
[03:09] <Zimp_> where are linux header files located in gusty ?
[03:09] <Josie> I'm getting error 9, something about invalid drive stuff when I try to boot into what wubi made.
[03:09] <jason_ubuntuislo> sunogbaga, im aware that my client can log it but i was wondering if its possible to log it while im at work as i have only this pc which is a laptop i bring to work and i cant get to irc
[03:09] <kelsin> Zimp_: /usr/src/linux is commonly just a symlink to the current kernel you have running, if that file isn't there isn't fine, they should be located in a folder in /usr/src
[03:09] <sunogbaga> jason_ubuntuislo: web interface i think is possible only if your irc client has the feature
[03:09] <crdlb> NeoPhyte21: hmm what are you building?
[03:09] <NeoPhyte21> void11
[03:09] <kahrytan> Alyxander➲  Pitivi reminds me of WIndows Movie Maker
[03:10] <SavageOne> rsync -t *.* linuxmce@<IP_ADDRESS>:/home/public/data/videos/   this command is only doing the files within the folder themselves, not the sub directories and files within
[03:10] <Alyxander> humm ill look into it thanks guys!
[03:10] <SavageOne> I've got files 3 and 4 directories deep
[03:10] <SavageOne> I tried adding -tr instead of just -t
[03:10] <SavageOne> when I have v in there it just acts like it copies some stuff and ends
[03:10] <sunogbaga> jason_ubuntuislo: you have to be always connected to do that.. otherwise youll have to rely to the bot
[03:11] <kelsin> NeoPhyte21: does "pkg-config --libs gtk+-2.0" work on your system?
[03:11] <NeoPhyte21> crdlb: any ideas ?
[03:11] <NeoPhyte21> kelsin it returns: Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[03:11] <NeoPhyte21> is there a command to add it manually?
[03:11] <jason_ubuntuislo> ok thanks Have a good night ! :)
[03:12] <gorillagene> is anyone running a proliant ML310?
[03:12] <crdlb> NeoPhyte21: what does this say: pkg-config --exists gtk+-2.0 && echo exists
[03:12] <gorillagene> or know about possible boot problems
[03:13] <kelsin> NeoPhyte21: you can set /usr/lib/pkgconfig in the PKG_CONFIG_PATH variable, but you shouldn't need to do that, something is screwed up about your pkg-config install
[03:13] <krammer> i need help with gparted?
[03:13] <kelsin> NeoPhyte21: you do have the current pkg-config installed right?
[03:13] <andruk> my resolution settings do not seem to be taking hold...and my monitor is not in the list...  help?
[03:13] <benzs_s> will xchat 2.8.4 work on feisty?
[03:14] <underdaw1> how do i mount a drive as a folder on my desktop?
[03:14] <kelsin> NeoPhyte21: (meaning you didn't install it from source or some other location)
[03:14] <transcube> Hey, does anyone know how to find out what filesystem a partition is using?
[03:14] <askand> How do I reinstall the appearancesetingdialog?
[03:14] <underdaw1> sudo mount /hda /home/myuser/Desktop?
[03:14] <K_Dallas> transcube, fdisk -l or so
[03:15] <Crooper> or gparted
[03:15] <K_Dallas> Q: I have seen and used some of the email clinets in the market.  But none so far has been good enough for my simple needs or that I was not able to use them effectively.  For instance, if I want all the emails from a given person to go to a pre-determined folder. Or that I want all the emails with the same urgency be gathered together.  If there a client enough flexibe and with such possibilities out there? Thanks
[03:15] <transcube> No, I meant how do I find out whether or not its using ext3, resierfs, etc.
[03:16] <K_Dallas> I was thinking that maybe some prefiltering by scripting could do this under linux but not  that good with those stuff
[03:16] <Zimp_> hmm
[03:16] <K_Dallas> transcube, fdisk -l
[03:16] <kelsin> K_Dallas: what clients hav eyou trued that havn't done this? I know Thunderbird and Evolution both can. You can also use procmail along with fetchmail and a client like mutt if you like a tech-savy cli solution
[03:16] <gorillagene> hello?
[03:16] <krammer> after i resized my darive it is showing unallowcated what do i do next? any help
[03:17] <scragar> krammer: create a new partition using the free space?
[03:17] <yabadaba> hi guys
[03:17] <gorillagene> can anyone help me with boot problems? i'm not sure if my bios is setup up incorrectly, but, i'm looking for some info on reasons ubuntu won't boot to the hd on a proliant ML310
[03:17] <K_Dallas> kelsin, i have used those clients but i think those options are not easily visible. I'm going to try them again, thanks
[03:17] <PenguinHunter> Does anyone know any good solid open source radio software like Prophet or NexGen
[03:17] <krammer> primary partition or extended?
[03:18] <gorillagene> extended
[03:18] <yabadaba> neither knetworkmanager nor gnomenetworkmanager applets show available wireless networks but i can see them via system/admin/network/wireless applet.  would anyone know why this might be happening?  it sounds like either a permissions issue or like the applets aren't able to talk to the device in some other way ... anyone have suggestions for fixing this?
[03:19] <NeoPhyte21> crdlb: pkg-config --exists gtk+-2.0 && echo exists doesn't return anything (sorry for delay had anetwork hiccup)
[03:19] <NeoPhyte21> haven't messed with pkg-config at all, just been using apt-get install to add packages
[03:19] <NeoPhyte21> kelsin: should i try removing and reinstalling pkg-config?
[03:19] <kelsin> NeoPhyte21: it probably couldn't hurt
[03:19] <Crooper> PenguinHunter, try campware.org
[03:20] <Kristel> tere
[03:21] <krammer> when i press apply it goes back to unallowcated
[03:21] <crdlb> NeoPhyte21: then pkg-config doesn't recognize/see the .pc file
[03:21] <xLE> can i find out root's password?
[03:21] <gyaresu> xLE: Can you?
[03:21] <kromcuich> I messed up my iptables on 7.10 now neither LAN nor wifi gets Internet connection. How can I restore them to the default settings?
[03:21] <gorillagene> xle: did you change the root pswd in the first place?
[03:21] <movingdecimals> i am getting the error "no subnet declaration for start (<IP_ADDRESS>)" when trying to start dhcpd
[03:21] <kelsin> xLE: on your system? ubuntu doesn't have a root password
[03:21] <scragar> xLE: not unless you want to try force it
[03:21] <movingdecimals> the subnet is def set
[03:22] <kelsin> xLE: you use sudo for everything
[03:22] <xLE> righto
[03:23] <kelsin> movingdecimals: can you paste your dhcpd config file? (in a pastebin of course)
[03:23] <kelsin> !pastebin
[03:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:23] <sarixe> hi, after upgrading this morning, i got "The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:Deskbar_Applet"."
[03:24] <sarixe> and also for the mixer app
[03:25] <crdlb> NeoPhyte21: make sure you don't have anything in /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig (particularly not a gtk+-2.0.pc)
[03:26] <renegade420> #eeepc
[03:29] <underdaw1> how do i log another user out remotely?
[03:29] <underdaw1> or is there a way to display a message on their laptop
[03:30] <kromcuich> I messed up my iptables on 7.10 now neither LAN nor wifi gets Internet connection. How can I restore them to the default settings?
[03:30] <Jordan_U> underdaw1, There are ways to do both of those things if you have sshd installed on the machine in question
[03:30] <RoAkSoAx> kromcuich : iptables -F will flush all the iptables
[03:30] <crush_groove> underdaw1,   if you have access .. just ttype ps x ( note the space) thin kill -9 <pid>
[03:30] <Jordan_U> underdaw1, Or have "remote desktop" ( VNC ) enabled
[03:30] <kromcuich> RoAkSoAx: did all that. flushed iptables and nat rules. still nothing
[03:31] <krammer> Anybody good with gparted
[03:31] <Jordan_U> !anyone | krammer
[03:31] <ubotu> krammer: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:32] <PeterHS> what do you mean by good
[03:32] <cyrano> Hi. I have an issue with streamripper. I try to rip last.fm streams through last.fm proxy. The problem is that while last.fm proxy mirrors what my last.fm player plays, streamripper rips completely random songs off from last.fm. Songs that are not to be found in any of my channels. What am i doing wrong? It seems like it doesnt access my account and my stations.
[03:32] <NeoPhyte21> crdlb: gtk+2.0 was in there
[03:32] <RoAkSoAx> kromcuich weird.. maybe it is not iptables then
[03:32] <NeoPhyte21> or is rather
[03:32] <marek|nano_> wut?
[03:32] <kromcuich>  RoAkSoAx: i played with iptables when trying to set up internet connection sharing. that never worked and neither has the internet since :)
[03:32] <krammer> i have resized my drive what next (I press apply then it goes back to start???
[03:33] <crdlb> NeoPhyte21: you've manually installed gtk for some reason, which is a bad thing
[03:33] <RoAkSoAx> kromcuich but if you have flushed iptables it should work as it used to
[03:33] <kromcuich> RoAkSoAx: and next step if it didnt?
[03:34] <scragar> krammer: you shrunk your drive right? and created a new parition?
[03:34] <Jordan_U> kromcuich, Did you by any chance also setup a ( possibly incorrect ) static configuration rather than DHCP?
[03:34] <NeoPhyte21> crd: so i get rid of it by?
[03:34] <NeoPhyte21> i may have cp'd the .pc file there thinking it would fix it last night
[03:34] <krammer> it is showing unallocated what do I do next?
[03:34] <kromcuich> Jordan_U: no, its on dhcp now...and neither eth0 or 1 function
[03:34] <RoAkSoAx> kromcuich: reboot machine and what Jordan_U says, verify network config.
[03:35] <krammer> Right click on the open space then start new partition?
[03:35] <Jordan_U> underdaw1, Again, does the laptop have openssh-server installed?
[03:35] <scragar> krammer: create a new extended partition using as much space as you want, click apply and watch it work
[03:35] <underdaw1> Jordan_U: yes
[03:36] <krammer> I am back from start
[03:36] <underdaw1> Jordan_U: ssh and vnc installed
[03:36] <krammer> first do i resize the drive?
[03:36] <kromcuich> RoAkSoAx: i tried to reinstall the iptables package, but it wants to download it again :) which obviously...
[03:36] <underdaw1> Jordan_U: i can't login to vnc unless I login on this desktop though
[03:36] <underdaw1> :(
[03:36] <Jordan_U> underdaw1, ssh in, if they are using a terminal right now the easiest thing to do would be to run "wall <message>"
[03:36] <scragar> krammer: you need unalocated space to do anything, so shrtinking/removing comes first
[03:36] <underdaw1> i se
[03:36] <underdaw1> wall is a cool command
[03:37] <underdaw1> okay
[03:37] <RoAkSoAx> kromcuich: obviously...??
[03:37] <kromcuich> RoAkSoAx: obviously i cant
[03:37] <krammer> what next::please
[03:38] <RoAkSoAx> kromcuich do a /etc/init.d/networking restart and paste the output to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:38] <krammer> i have my space showing unallowcated?
[03:38] <scragar> krammer: if you've got some free space now right click on it and select new partition
[03:38] <Jordan_U> underdaw1, You can also set the DISPLAY variable to ":0.0" then run any GUI command and it will show up on his desktop if he is logged in ( "zenity" is probably a good place to look for quick messages )
[03:38] <patbam> hi, what package does the image manipulation tool  'convert'  live in? i thuoght it was imagemagick but it didn't install it..
[03:38] <krammer> extended part? and then add ?
[03:38] <kromcuich> RoAkSoAx: ok, but ity will take a while as i gotta reboot to ubuntu, then back to windows to get internet
[03:38] <Jordan_U> underdaw1, You can also use "aplay" to play a wav file
[03:38] <scragar> krammer: use the slider to change it's size if you want(default to max), and set it to extended. click add/whatever
[03:39] <Jordan_U> underdaw1, And many other things :)
[03:39] <NeoPhyte21> is gtk automatically installed w/ gimp? as in if i remove gimp and then reinstall might it solve thsi problem?
[03:39] <underdaw1> :)
[03:39] <kromcuich> RoAkSoAx: usuallt the message fron network restart just says 'ok'
[03:39] <underdaw1> the display variable?
[03:39] <underdaw1> ?
[03:39] <krammer> ok what next?
[03:39] <scragar> krammer: then click apply, should take a while
[03:39] <underdaw1> in vnc :0,0?
[03:39] <RoAkSoAx> kromcuich: use ifconfig also, and paste output
[03:39] <krammer> see man it goes back to the beggining
[03:40] <Jordan_U> underdaw1, No, ssh in then once you are logged in via ssh run: DISPLAY=":0.0"
[03:40] <krammer> now i dont any space
[03:40] <scragar> you get any errors or anything?
[03:41] <dongysh> how can I install e17 in ubuntu 7.10?
[03:42] <wers> what's the best timer app out there? :D
[03:42] <wers> i want a gtk app :D
[03:43] <CoasterMaster> wers, there's one for gnome-panel I think
[03:43] <cyrano> Hi. I have an issue with streamripper. I try to rip last.fm streams through last.fm proxy. The problem is that while last.fm proxy mirrors what my last.fm player plays, streamripper rips completely random songs off from last.fm. Songs that are not to be found in any of my channels. What am i doing wrong? It seems like it doesnt access my account and my stations.
[03:43] <wers> yeah. i'm using that and I'm loving it
[03:43] <wers> hehe
[03:43] <wers> i'm looking for alternatives
[03:44] <lockd> i just ran into someone using Ubuntu (conexant driver I think) and it is emitting beep beep beep instead of audio
[03:44] <lockd> continually, and volume goes up and down with the volume control
[03:44] <lockd> switched to both Alsa and OSS
[03:45] <CoasterMaster> is there a tutorial for turning FLACs into MP3s using LAME?
[03:45] <lockd> any ideas as to what might cause errant beeping? searched everywhere on google
[03:45] <scragar>  CoasterMaster: isn't it just "lame filename" ? if that's too hard for you install Glame
[03:46] <CoasterMaster> scragar, oh, didn't realize it would be that easy
[03:46] <andruk> why arent my resolution settings kept between logins?
[03:46] <crush_groove> bbiab
[03:47] <pflanze> Hello. Can anyone explain me (or point to an explanation of) the /rofs filesystem part on ubuntu live cd's? After copying everything off a running system, how do I merge / and /rofs correctly?
[03:48] <kahrytan> CoasterMaster➲  Try Sound Converter?
[03:48] <kahrytan> !info soundconverter
[03:48] <ubotu> soundconverter: Convert audio files into other formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.6-1 (gutsy), package size 65 kB, installed size 428 kB
[03:48] <IcemanV9> lockd: try to check with system > pref > sound ... see if you can change the assignment to the warning or something likes that
[03:48] <PenguinHunter> I am working with a radio engineer who would like to move the radio stations he works with to Linux.  What open source automated software is out there.  Please realize that this is a large operation with 3 radio stations and about 50 internet radio streams which build off of the 3 FM stations
[03:49] <PenguinHunter> Any ideas
[03:49] <astro76> PenguinHunter, did you see someone mentioned campware.org ?
[03:49] <pflanze> PenguinHunter: why not ask people who are running internet radios already?
[03:49] <DG19075> !rivwndell
[03:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rivwndell - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:49] <MagicFab> PenguinHunter, I remember seing some of that in Linux Journal
[03:50] <PenguinHunter> The current software is NexGen and Prophet
[03:50] <lockd> IcemanV9: Eh? Changed all preferences, set between alsa and oss
[03:50] <PenguinHunter> Campware is too small
[03:50] <anthonylicari> anyone know of an application that can search text across multiple files in a directory?
[03:50] <BloodyScum> I just installed k torrent useing the add/remove manager, but when i try to open it with the launcher, it doesnt do anything, just acts like i didnt even click it.. i cant figure out why
[03:51] <IcemanV9> lockd: not between alsa or oss ... just assign the sound you want to emit or turn it off altogether
[03:51] <bulmer> anthonylicari-> grep can
[03:51] <astro76> anthonylicari, grep
[03:51] <anthonylicari> thank you
[03:51] <m1k3> Ok you guys I wanna prove someone wrong
[03:51] <narothepharoh> how do i get sound
[03:51] <bulmer> anthonylicari-> grep can and so as sed and awk
[03:51] <m1k3> does linux have any trojans or viruses?
[03:51] <lockd> IcemanV9: It is beeping. All those options are set to no sound, and sound doesn't really work
[03:51] <m1k3> Enought to where you need virus protection
[03:51] <IcemanV9> !sound > narothepharoh
[03:51] <scragar> BloodyScum: go to a terminal and type "ktorrent" what's it say?
[03:51] <lockd> IcemanV9: (in apps where I try to use the sound)
[03:51] <MagicFab> PenguinHunter, here's one project I recently read about: http://www.mediabox404.org/Main_Page
[03:51] <PenguinHunter> Plus this isn't just internet radio this will be connecting into 3 FM stations
[03:51] <astro76> m1k3, this is the Ubuntu support channel, not the proving people wrong channel
[03:51] <andruk> why arent my resolution settings kept between logins?
[03:52] <IcemanV9> lockd: ah.
[03:52] <narothepharoh> icemanv9: how?
[03:52] <BloodyScum> kdeinit: Aborting. bind() failed: : Permission denied
[03:52] <BloodyScum> Could not bind to socket '/home/steven/.kde/socket-steven-ub/kdeinit__0'
[03:52] <BloodyScum> ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Can't setup DCOP communication.
[03:52] <m1k3> astro76, Sorry but can you treat it as a question then? :P
[03:52] <simplechat> m1k3, yes, but if you actually see one, you get a sticker (hint: nobody's got one)
[03:52] <astro76> m1k3, sorry ;) ...here's a good link
[03:52] <astro76> !virus | m1k3
[03:52] <ubotu> m1k3: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[03:52] <onats> what's the command to resolve the hostname of a particular IP?
[03:52] <bulmer> onats man dig
[03:53] <IcemanV9> narothepharoh: read the msg from ubotu
[03:53] <movingdecimals> kelsin - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48170/
[03:53] <IcemanV9> !sound | narothepharoh
[03:53] <ubotu> narothepharoh: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:53] <m1k3> Thank you my dad was telling me you need virus protection lol
[03:53] <BloodyScum> hmmm... i did sudo ktorrent and it poped up, will i have to run it like that every time?
[03:53] <Filled-void> is the flashplugin-nonfree 64 bit ? I'm on an Ubuntu 64 bit install Gutsy Gibbon
[03:53] <onats> bulmer, thanks
[03:54] <scragar> BloodyScum: it should work without sudo, I don't get why it wouldn't...
[03:54] <andruk> anybody know anything aboot resolution settings?
[03:54] <R3B3LX> wine is downloaded and i am trying to run tukanas hit generator using wine... when i download it it says error writing to the temporary location... how do i get it to work?
[03:55] <BloodyScum> hm.. well when i did it, it put this in the term:              kbuildsycoca running...
[03:55] <BloodyScum> Reusing existing ksycoca
[03:55] <BloodyScum> kio (KMimeType): WARNING: KServiceType::offers : servicetype ThumbCreator not fo                                                           und
[03:55] <Joshooa> Can I get some help making flash work in Firefox? I've tried Gnash and Adobe and neither of them want to work right
[03:55] <fabio> people
[03:56] <BloodyScum> whatever that means...
[03:56] <fabio> i whant to know a good alternative to run windows games
[03:56] <fabio> gta san andreas
[03:56] <Joshooa> Wine or Cedega
[03:56] <R3B3LX> does anyone know how to wrok wine
[03:56] <Filled-void> fabio, Check Cedega and Wine you can search their databases if the game is supported
[03:56] <R3B3LX> that is my question >_>
[03:56] <Joshooa> R3B3LX: How to work it?
[03:56] <fabio> joshooa but the games are very slow
[03:56] <R3B3LX> yes im trying to run Tukanas Hit Generator
[03:57] <R3B3LX> but when i download it using wine
[03:57] <R3B3LX> it says Error Writing TO Temporary Location
[03:57] <R3B3LX> when its downloaded
[03:57] <magic_ninja> !download
[03:57] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive - PLEASE use the !torrents to download Gutsy, and help keeping the servers' load low!
[03:57] <fabio> Filled-void the game is very slow the graphics
[03:58] <magic_ninja> are there any download accelerators for linux, similar to dap
[03:58] <magic_ninja> i used to use it when it first came out and it rocked
[03:58] <Joshooa> R3B3LX: Well you should only use Wine to install it not to download it. You may have to set write permissions
[03:58] <movingdecimals> i guess kelsin left. i am getting an error trying to get dhcpd running. when trying to start it i get "no subnet declaration for start (<IP_ADDRESS>)" the subnet is def set. here is my dhcpd.conf - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48170/
[03:58] <MagicFab> PenguinHunter, also see http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/05/24/1845244
[03:58] <Filled-void> fabio, Sorry bud I havent played the game so I dont have experiences there :(. Your best choice is to check others reviews in cedega and wine and see if there is some fix for it
[03:58] <R3B3LX> how do i run it with wine then?
[03:58] <PenguinHunter> thanks guys
[03:59] <Joshooa> R3B3LX: After it's downloaded, do wine '/Path-to-File/File.exe'
[03:59] <R3B3LX> whats path to file?
[03:59] <scragar> or just right click the file and choose open with wine :P
[03:59] <R3B3LX> lolz
[03:59] <R3B3LX> that may help >_>
[04:00] <R3B3LX> it still gives me same error
[04:00] <Joshooa> R3B3LX: Well where did you download it?
[04:00] <R3B3LX> desktop
[04:00] <R3B3LX> but i right clicked it and choose to run it with wine >_>
[04:00] <abdulla> movingdecimals, internet not working ?
[04:01] <movingdecimals> hm?
[04:01] <Joshooa> R3B3LX: And it doesn't bring up the installing window?
[04:01] <R3B3LX> no
[04:01] <R3B3LX> it just says Untitled window as the window
[04:01] <Joshooa> R3B3LX: Have you ran winecfg yet?
[04:01] <R3B3LX> how do i do that?
[04:01] <movingdecimals> well this machine is on a differnt network works fine. this other machine i am trying to get dhcpd working
[04:02] <Joshooa> OPen a terminal and type winecfg or go to your wine menu and select Configure Wine
[04:02] <abdulla> movingdecimals, i just want to know if internet works it means you can surf ... before answering your question ;)
[04:02] <abdulla> if not working i can help if its working then my step is no sure for you movingdecimals
[04:02] <narothepharoh> I have xubuntu and I cant figure out how to get the sound to work even with the help pages
[04:02] <R3B3LX> ok i did that... a screen appeared... but what do i set it to or what
[04:03] <movingdecimals> well the the machine i am trying to get working is on a seperate network not connected to any inet connection
[04:04] <Joshooa> Set it to emulate windows xp
[04:04] <abdulla> movingdecimals, have you tried if it can detect a connection ? because dhcp should be got automaticlly from your router ect.. ubuntu does that
[04:04] <R3B3LX> i set it as windows vista?
[04:04] <Joshooa> Um, you can try that first but if it has errors go back and change it to XP
[04:04] <abdulla> i want to know if internet works on that computer trying plugin in a LAN cable and see if it connects :) movingdecimals
[04:04] <R3B3LX> lolz ok
[04:04] <IcemanV9> R3B3LX: depends on the app you d/l
[04:04] <R3B3LX> i realized that before
[04:04] <R3B3LX> it said nothing of windows 200
[04:05] <R3B3LX> 2000 working for it
[04:05] <Joshooa> I think emulating XP will be more stable, but if you can get it to run in Vista then you can go for that too
[04:05] <movingdecimals> if i plug it into the production network and change eth0 to dhcp i can get on the net
[04:05] <fabio> run virtualbox
[04:05] <Joshooa> And try it again
[04:05] <rbmorse> exit
[04:05] <R3B3LX> okiez
[04:05] <R3B3LX> lol vista wouldnt work
[04:05] <R3B3LX> same error
[04:05] <R3B3LX> let me try xp
[04:05] <Joshooa> When I ran virtualbox it froze
[04:05] <abdulla> Wine can do most jobs how come you guys still use virtualbox ? what purpose? :/
[04:06] <R3B3LX> ok guys
[04:06] <viro> R3B3LX: what system?
[04:06] <fabio> need to see configuration
[04:06] <fabio> joshooa
[04:06] <R3B3LX> i added windows vista and clicked apply >_>
[04:06] <R3B3LX> and when i loaded it again
[04:06] <R3B3LX> it cam back up as windows 200
[04:06] <R3B3LX> 2000*
[04:06] <viro> is this a vm?
[04:06] <Joshooa> fabio: Yeah?
[04:06] <bulmer> abdulla-> have you tried to read anything about virtualbox?
[04:07] <Joshooa> R3B3LX: Weird
[04:07] <R3B3LX> yes
[04:07] <R3B3LX> anyway i set it to xp
[04:07] <R3B3LX> going to try adn run it again
[04:07] <fabio> joshooa: run with sudo
[04:07] <Joshooa> fabio: Oh I got past that part, and added myself to the virtualbox user group, got into Windows Set Up, but it froze in that
[04:07] <R3B3LX> same error still
[04:08] <R3B3LX> would it matter if the top where it says Default.... was just default
[04:08] <R3B3LX> and nothing else?
[04:08] <fabio> Joshooa: sudo virtualbox
[04:08] <fabio> and create a new machine
[04:08] <Joshooa> fabio: I did that
[04:08] <Joshooa> R3B3LX: You mean Default Settings?
[04:08] <Joshooa> R3B3LX: Yeah that's fine
[04:09] <fabio> so?
[04:09] <Joshooa> fabio: So it freezes
[04:09] <Joshooa> fabio: Well once I try and install windows
[04:09] <R3B3LX> it says Application Settings.. the only 1 there is Default
[04:09] <abdulla> i used to use it bulmer but now i dualboot i have a mounted xp disk on my ubuntu desktop i do my swapping theyr for just makeing my ubuntu drive light and empty :)
[04:09] <fabio> yes
[04:09] <R3B3LX> acorn@confusedCPU:~$ wineserver: could not save registry branch to /home/acorn/.wine/system.reg : Permission denied
[04:10] <fabio> Joshooa: i think u need to reeinstal it
[04:10] <R3B3LX> it says that when i close it
[04:10] <Voyage__> any one using virtual box? how to share folders in a winodws xp ?
[04:10] <fabio> sudo it
[04:10] <movingdecimals> abdulla:  if i plug it into the production network and change eth0 to dhcp i can get on the net
[04:10] <bulmer> abdulla now if you want a simultaneous xp and linux and freebsd and openbsd, can you try to run that same time ?
[04:10] <R3B3LX> r u guys trying to add a windows xp to ur system or what?
[04:10] <Joshooa> R3B3LX: Do a terminal and run sudo /home/acorn/Desktop/Tukanas Hit Generator.exe
[04:11] <IcemanV9> R3B3LX: you need to chmod your home .wine and it will allow you to save the config without using sudo
[04:11] <fabio> voyage read the instructions
[04:11] <fabio> sudo nautilus
[04:11] <abdulla> movingdecimals, i guess you need to leave it on eth0 :) , and check if you can ping google.com then .. tell me reply
[04:11] <fabio> and go to the folder
[04:11] <R3B3LX> sudo: /home/acorn/Desktop/Tukanas: command not found
[04:11] <fabio> and change premissions
[04:11] <Joshooa> R3B3LX: Whoops, I meant sudo wine
[04:11] <R3B3LX> lolz
[04:12] <abdulla> bulmer, no , however whats the point?
[04:12] <movingdecimals> abdulla: leave it on eth0
[04:12] <movingdecimals> ?
[04:12] <Joshooa> R3B3LX: But if you can chmod your home .wine folder would be better
[04:12] <R3B3LX> sudo wine /home/acorn/Desktop/Tukanas Hit Generator.exe
[04:12] <R3B3LX> ?
[04:12] <bulmer> abdulla-> have you tried to read anything about virtualbox? then you will understand the point
[04:12] <kjp2> I'm looking for some music playing software that has a web front end. Anyone know of such a thing ?
[04:12] <Joshooa> R3B3LX: Yes, should be it, if that's your file
[04:12] <abdulla> yes ... dhcp should be recognized ,without appointing it movingdecimals
[04:12] <movingdecimals> yes
[04:12] <abdulla> maybe for personal purpose bulmer :p
[04:13] <fabio> R3B3LX: go to terminal
[04:13] <n08l3J> Hello everyone
[04:13] <R3B3LX> sweet
[04:13] <R3B3LX> it installed
[04:13] <n08l3J> when i go to System > Preferences > Appearance
[04:13] <movingdecimals> abdulla: i am under the impressions when the machine is set up as a dhcp server eth0 should be a static address
[04:13] <fabio> and go to the folder of program u want to run
[04:13] <n08l3J> it just forze there
[04:13] <Voyage__> anyhelp pls?
[04:13] <R3B3LX> thx a million guys
[04:13] <bulmer> abdulla once you become a developer, you'd understand why the need of multiple os
[04:13] <n08l3J> i mean i can only close it but can not change anything
[04:13] <R3B3LX> u just saved me a big time
[04:13] <fabio> !patiente voyage
[04:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about patiente voyage - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:13] <R3B3LX> now i dont need a windows >_>
[04:14] <Joshooa> R3B3LX: Yeah Windows sucks
[04:14] <R3B3LX> haha yeah i know
[04:14] <R3B3LX> mine crashed
[04:14] <Joshooa> R3B3LX: Except they are driving more people towards Ubuntu
[04:14] <R3B3LX> it lagged so bad
[04:14] <fabio> !patience
[04:14] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:14] <R3B3LX> adn then my computer was down for 3 weeks
[04:14] <simplechat> R3B3LX, who would need it in the first place?
[04:14] <insta> are there such things as "download managers" in ubuntu?  where i can add multiple HTTP sources for the same file and split the download speeds between them?
[04:14] <fabio> !patience voyage
[04:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about patience voyage - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:14] <R3B3LX> people at geek squad said my hard drive needed to be replaced >_>
[04:14] <R3B3LX> i fixed it myself with old hard drive
[04:14] <R3B3LX> lolz
[04:14] <n08l3J> any ideas on how to make the appearance menu working ?
[04:14] <fabio> !patiençe
[04:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about patiençe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:15] <abdulla> movingdecimals, maybe thats true but with my case it was just my dns conflict i didnt know this was the cause of the problem , try in terminal cat /etc/resolv.conf
[04:15] <kjp2> I wish there was an airtunes work-alike for linux
[04:16] <n08l3J> Damn thing just freeze there couldn't change anything in that
[04:16] <n08l3J> any ideas ?
[04:16] <n08l3J> The appearance menu from the system > Preference
[04:16] <abdulla> bulmer, , .. developer? in what means when we have wine that runs most app's like dreamweaver... etc..
[04:16] <movingdecimals> abdulla: the only thing listed is "search <our production domain>"
[04:16] <abdulla> huh ?!
[04:16] <abdulla> in resolv.conf?
[04:16] <movingdecimals> yes
[04:17] <movingdecimals> from when it was plugged into the production domain doing updates and whatnot
[04:17] <SantaClaus> HOHOHO
[04:17] <andruk> can vesa use resolutions that are greater than 1024x768?
[04:17] <movingdecimals> that and a line that says "# generated by networkmanager do not edit!"
[04:18] <SantaClaus> can u help me?
[04:18] <abdulla> movingdecimals, and how about internet how can it connect when it doesnt have a dns? :s you sure the router does the job?
[04:18] <Icehawk78> What would be the easiest recommended method for setting up an extremely basic mailserver on my server? The only ability I need if for it to recieve emails and be able to forward them to a PHP script.
[04:18] <Icehawk78> I need absolutely *no* other features than that.
[04:18] <SantaClaus> are you all jewish here or what¿
[04:18] <movingdecimals> in trying to make this work earlier when i switched networks i took the dns entries out
[04:19] <Icehawk78> What'cha need help with, Sandy Claws?
[04:19] <movingdecimals> they have no purpose on this seperate netowrk
[04:19] <SantaClaus> how can i get a coloured /etc/issue output¿
[04:19] <movingdecimals> and are in completetly different ranges
[04:19] <abdulla> !dhcp
[04:19] <ubotu> dhcp is Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol, a protocol for automatic IP assignment from a router. Ubuntu uses dhclient as a DHCP client but other ones (and DHCP servers too) can be obtained from the !repos. More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DHCP
[04:19] <Joshooa> R3B3LX: I just read your thing, Geek Squad doesn't know anything about computers, they just have an automated CD
[04:20] <movingdecimals> right. i understand what dhcp does
[04:20] <bjbum> bahhhh. anyone have experience with wine/ventrilo outputting to 2 different sources if more than one person is talking?
[04:20] <abdulla> movingdecimals, im sorry i thought i could help ... thought its the dhcp conflict with dns if thats the case i would have showed you have to lock the dns and appoint the internet while ignoring some of the tcpwrapopers
[04:21] <IcemanV9> andruk: i believe vesa can go up to 1024x768; vesa is basic video driver for most boxes. you need to install the correct video driver to get a better resolution
[04:21] <movingdecimals> this network isn't touching the inet or anything without a static address. dns isn't needed here. i am not sure i see the correlation
[04:21] <movingdecimals> thank you though
[04:21] <Filled-void> is there a command to find out what all programs I have installed on Ubuntu (I would like a list )
[04:21] <abdulla> your very welcome
[04:22] <interceptor> #ubuntu-ru
[04:22] <movingdecimals> is there a ubuntu network specific channel?
[04:22] <bazhang> Filled-void: dpkg -l
[04:22] <Filled-void> bazhang, Thanks :D
[04:22] <abdulla> movingdecimals, here's my desktop screenshot 4 you http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/5/12/13/f_mydesktopm_81765b4.png&srv=img33
[04:22] <Icehawk78> Is there a channel specifically for linux servers?
[04:22] <bazhang> #ubuntu-server
[04:23] <Icehawk78> Thanks
[04:23] <bulmer> movingdecimals-> what is the issue with your network?
[04:23] <cristhian> anyones figured out how to make a dvd back up ?  i mean i  couldnt make a dvd copy
[04:23] <bulmer> movingdecimals-> elaborate on what is connected to which
[04:23] <kjp2> anyone know of a solution for a headless media box, to play music with a web front end ?
[04:24] <movingdecimals> bulmer:  i am getting an error trying to get dhcpd running. when trying to start it i get "no subnet declaration for start (<IP_ADDRESS>)" the subnet is def set. here is my dhcpd.conf - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48170/
[04:26] <narothepharoh> I have xubuntu and I cant figure out how to get the sound to work even with the help pages
[04:26] <movingdecimals> bulmer - i have a laptop running ubuntu and dhcpd
[04:26] <movingdecimals> bulmer - it is connected to a switch with a few set top boxes on it. nothing else
[04:27] <movingdecimals> bulmer - the issue is just getting dhcpd to start
[04:27] <Voyage__> how to kill a proces run by root (say kill dolphin)?
[04:27] <bulmer> movingdecimals-> give me a chance to review your config file..
[04:27] <movingdecimals> sure
[04:27] <kdubois> has anyone experienced where you cat a binary file, and the output causes gnome-terminal to have incorrect characters from then on out? know of a fix?
[04:27] <ckin2001> Voyage__, sudo kill "pid#"
[04:27] <Voyage__> ckin2001 how do i know its pid
[04:27] <bulmer> kdubois-> reset
[04:28] <ckin2001> Voyage__, ps aux, its one of the columns
[04:28] <kdubois> bulmer: thanks! worked like a charm
[04:28] <ckin2001> ps aux | grep "command" usually works
[04:28] <craigbass1976> Anyone know why K3B and the GNOME burners would both go through all the motions, but that I end up with a blank disc?  I've also done cdrecord (preceeded by mkisofs) and it all looked good too, but I didn't grab a new disc for that.  Trying it now
[04:28] <utty> im gonna try installing ubuntu on my dell inspiron 6000 does anyone know if there are compatable drivers avalable
[04:29] <utty> or where i might look
[04:30] <rrr> hi
[04:30] <rrr> tooo
[04:30] <Voyage__> sudo kill $(pidof dolphin) woked
[04:30] <craigbass1976> utty, what drivers in particular are you worried about?
[04:31] <utty> soundcard
[04:31] <bulmer> movingdecimals-> may i suggest cutting down the number of classes you have and also enable debugging when you start dhcpd?
[04:31] <movingdecimals> is that -D
[04:32] <utty> i always have trouble with my soundcard when i try any linux install
[04:32] <K`zan> utty: oddball sound card?
[04:32] <utty> it just says onboard genaric
[04:32] <Voyage__> sudo kill $(pidof dolphin) woked
[04:33] <Voyage__>  i want to increase security of my folders. i want any users to only be able to view its contents. a password should be asked every time if modifing or deleting...  how can do it?
[04:33] <K`zan> utty: lspci and look for the soundcard.
[04:34] <Voyage__> so that not even a virus can effect my linux of data..........
[04:34] <tahsin> Hi can anyone help me setup my WLAN card ?
[04:34] <craigbass1976> Voyage__, not really
[04:35] <ibanez> hey gusy quick question, what in the hell is the super key ? lol
[04:35] <movingdecimals> bulmer - "not configured to listen on any interface"
[04:35] <ibanez> is it the windows key ?
[04:35] <astro76> ibanez, yes
[04:35] <craigbass1976> Voyage__, there was a virus or a worm I heard about that hit RedHat a few years ago (might have even been pre 7.3) but that's about it
[04:35] <bazhang> ibanez: windows
[04:35] <ibanez> thanks guys
[04:35] <ibanez> :)
[04:35] <ibanez> cheers
[04:35] <Myrtti> yea
[04:35] <ibanez> exit
[04:35] <ibanez> oops
[04:35] <tahsin> Hi can anyone help me setup my WLAN card ??
[04:35] <Voyage__> craigbass1976 ?
[04:36] <craigbass1976> Voyage__, yes?
[04:36] <astro76> !virus | Voyage__
[04:36] <ubotu> Voyage__: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[04:36] <bazhang> no virii for linux Voyage__
[04:36] <bulmer> movingdecimals-> which interface would you want to dole out ip addresses?
[04:36] <quang> how do i change my preference for music playr to xxms?
[04:36] <Voyage__> a virus can do any things what a user logged in can do.......
[04:36] <movingdecimals> eth0
[04:36] <insta> can the alternate install CD do SSH-based installs?
[04:37] <craigbass1976> Voyage__, but a user does not have permissions to mess with the operating system, and viruses are usually after system files
[04:37] <craigbass1976> Hey, I'll be back--got to reboot for something
[04:37] <tahsin> Hi can anyone help me setup my WLAN card ????????
[04:37] <craigbass1976> tahsin, hang on--I just said I'm rebooting.  If noone else has helped before I get back, I will
[04:37] <Voyage__> craigbass1976 i dont care about the system........ i care about data. drives mounted......
[04:38] <tahsin> thanks
[04:38] <quang> where are the program file at in ubutnu?
[04:38] <craigbass1976> Well then, yes.  If you have a virus that affect regular files and a user somehow contracts it, then the data is at risk.  I do need to go though.  I'd like to see a log if anyone can point me to one in case I miss the virus discussion
[04:38] <movingdecimals> bulmer: eth0
[04:38] <DM|> what is the "find" command to locate files in terminal?
[04:39] <bruenig> DM|, what do you mean what is it?
[04:39] <craigbass1976> DM|, man find.  I can't remember the syntax
[04:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !virus
[04:39] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[04:39] <Voyage__> craigbass1976 for that  i want to increase security of my folders. i want any users to only be able to view its contents. a password should be asked every time if modifing or deleting...  how can do it?
[04:39] <ckin2001> DM|, find "location" "options"
[04:39] <quang> where are the program file at in ubutnu?
[04:39] <Jack_Sparrow> quang: can you be more specific about what you want to do..
[04:39] <jsu> hi guys im struggling to get my gutsy to use my phones internet with pan, i followed this and its not really working, and clues: http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=598890?? tia
[04:39] <bulmer> movingdecimals-> you are missing a line with   next-server  ipaddressofeth0;
[04:40] <\`slushpuppy`\> Hi, how do I shift icons on the top bar?
[04:40] <Jack_Sparrow> quang: var/cache/apt/archives has the debs you would get using apt-get  synapic or aptitude
[04:40] <K`zan> Any of the editors for 2008 do .rtf?
[04:40] <movingdecimals> bulmer -> does that do in the dhcpd.conf file? if so where abouts?
[04:40] <K`zan> ww
[04:40] <Alan2> wow that just bit the big one :/
[04:40] <bulmer> movingdecimals-> yes that should be in your dhcpd.conf file
[04:41] <jsu> btw, this is my error message: pand[6326]: Connecting to 00:17:83:45:E6:81
[04:41] <DM|> Anyone have experiience with Slimserver?
[04:42] <Voyage__>  i dont care about the system........ i care about data. drives mounted......eg. a friend of mine, a virus can do any things what a user logged in can do.......for that  i want to increase security of my folders. i want any users to only be able to view its contents. a password should be asked every time if modifing or deleting...  how can do it?
[04:42] <Konam> hi
[04:43] <bruenig> Voyage__, some careful permission changing, it is not some automatic point and clicky thing, tedious cli stuff
[04:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Voyage__: did you read that link on !virus            I take it you are running wine and windows programs?
[04:43] <bazhang> Voyage__: are you using your system as a mailserver for windows boxes? if not, then not much to be concerned about--rootkits seem to be the worst security problem you might have
[04:43] <Jack_Sparrow> bruenig: didnt realize you were on it..
[04:43] <bruenig> Jack_Sparrow, glad to get off of it
[04:43] <steammachine> hi all.
[04:44] <steammachine> I'm having an issue with totem
[04:44] <bruenig> especially if he thinks the wine stuff will affect other directories, which is ludicrous of course
[04:44] <steammachine> when it plays movies, they appear as a thin line.
[04:44] <steammachine> I can't seem to change this.
[04:44] <Jack_Sparrow> :)   I just stopped in to grab some mail.. not get sucked into the vortex for another hour
[04:44] <steammachine> very frustrating - I'd consider installing another player but I'd rather use totem.
[04:44] <Voyage__> bazhang root kicks?
[04:45] <Jack_Sparrow> bruenig: Simple solution...  dont use wine or windows products/software
[04:45] <bazhang> Voyage__: rootkits
[04:45] <narothepharoh> I have xubuntu and I cant figure out how to get the sound to work even with the help pages
[04:45] <bruenig> !english | Voyage__
[04:45] <ubotu> Voyage__: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[04:45] <Voyage__> bazhang Jack_Sparrow  bruenig i use wne too much. and have been playing with viruses
[04:45] <bazhang> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rootkit Voyage__
[04:45] <bruenig> Voyage__, wine is confined to a directory, nothing will get out of it
[04:46] <bruenig> if you want to delete all the viruses rm -rf ~/.wine
[04:46] <bruenig> done
[04:46] <jsu> guys, anybody got a pointer for me with the bluetooth driver, im considering converting from vista but i cant get the internet to work
[04:46] <JensenDied> requesting information on extending ext3 to fill more unallocated space
[04:46] <Voyage__> but isnt it better to do what i wana do?
[04:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Voyage__: did you setup a seperate user with only access to /.wine
[04:46] <Konam> I get this from my wireless card on a dv2000 laptop: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48171/
[04:46] <Voyage__> Jack_Sparrow yes
[04:46] <utty> srry got d/c
[04:47] <bruenig> Voyage__, waste of time is a more accurate description
[04:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Voyage__: then the problem is confined
[04:47] <bulmer> jsu-> come again? you want the internet to work? its already working
[04:47] <utty> i got ubuntu 8.1 anyone got the hashes
[04:47] <Jack_Sparrow> bruenig: goodnight buddy.. cya tomorrow....
[04:47] <Voyage__> Jack_Sparrow bruenig - i only need that for mounted data drives.... no apps concerned.. how can i do it?
[04:47] <bazhang> utty: 8.04?
[04:48] <utty> says 8.10
[04:48] <ckin2001> Voyage__, read up on linux acls and selinux, and have fun.
[04:48] <bazhang> Voyage__: ask in ##windows
[04:48] <Myrtti> utty: can't be
[04:49] <RoDoX> what about the update for broken flash plugin?!
[04:49] <steammachine> I'm running 7.10, I've installed the restrictedformats and yet playback is still messy
[04:49] <narothepharoh> I have xubuntu and I cant figure out how to get the sound to work even with the help pages
[04:49] <utty> ah just tellin ya what the file said
[04:49] <jsu> bulmer, its working cus i switched to vista to ask, but not in ubuntu
[04:49] <Voyage__> bazhang ckin2001 how about i run dolphin as root and change the permisions of the mounted drive/file to read only by others and write acces to root only ?
[04:49] <boubbin> what program is similar to microsoft frontpage in ubuntu ?
[04:49] <Myrtti> utty: what does lsb_release -a say
[04:50] <Myrtti> !paste | utty
[04:50] <ubotu> utty: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:50] <bulmer> jsu-> explain what you have, what is connected to what? what kind of interface?
[04:50] <narothepharoh> I have xubuntu and I cant figure out how to get the sound to work even with the help pages
[04:50] <jsu> bulmer, i want to tether from my windows mobile EVDO connection, to provide internet to my laptop
[04:50] <craigbass1976> boubbin, nvu
[04:51] <craigbass1976> boubbin, you mean like a dreamweaver thing?
[04:51] <thor> craigbass1976 I think kompozer has replaced nvu
[04:52] <j1solutions> hello all
[04:52] <jsu> bulmer, the windows vista wizard did it all automatically, but i cant get PAN to work in ubuntu
[04:52] <bulmer> jsu-> fairly newish...evdo stuff..anyhow its not much different than establishing ppp from what i understood
[04:52] <craigbass1976> thor, I think Kate shoudl replace them all.  I love her
[04:52] <thor> craigbass1976 no kde!
[04:52] <thor> craigbass1976 not until 4 at least
[04:52] <steammachine> anyone?
[04:52] <steammachine> I can't even find a mention of it on google.
[04:52] <craigbass1976> thor, I don't.  I run GNOME, but have Kate on there.  I can't get used to gedit.  Of course, there's vim...
[04:52] <kawarazu> Hullo?
[04:53] <utty> dont know im on a windows computer atm and have to go home to install
[04:53] <kawarazu> Could I ask for some help with irc and downloads?
[04:53] <kawarazu> =X?
[04:53] <bulmer> jsu-> have you googled for anything on this evdo and ubuntu yet?
[04:53] <utty> ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386
[04:53] <fabio> ubuntu supports sms gateway???
[04:53] <Myrtti> !ask | kawarazu
[04:53] <ubotu> kawarazu: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:53] <craigbass1976> kawarazu, what's your question
[04:53] <bazhang> utty: link?
[04:53] <jsu> bulmer, of course i followed this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=561303
[04:54] <narothepharoh> I have xubuntu and I cant figure out how to get the sound to work even with the help pages
[04:54] <Voyage__> !
[04:54] <bulmer> jsu-> and? which part do you get stuck in at?
[04:54] <rabiddachshund> How would I go about installing ubuntu (or any distro for that matter) on a computer without using the cd?
[04:54] <chumby> I cant get two screens working.  Any ideas?
[04:54] <jsu> bulmer, i did all the steps but it doesnt work
[04:54] <MagicFab> PenguinHunter, I found an interesting solution, Rivendell. I filed a bug to get their packages in Ubuntu: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/176278
[04:54] <jsu> bulmer, the error is pand[6326]: Connecting to 00:17:83:45:E6:81
[04:55] <bazhang> rabiddachshund: pendrivelinux dot com has the answer
[04:55] <fabio> why open source matters?
[04:55] <bulmer> jsu-> oh well, too new for me...i dont understand why you are using windows as gateway instead of linux as the gateway
[04:55] <fabio> because we are a part of open source
[04:55] <fabio> :)
[04:56] <rabiddachshund> bazhang: ty
[04:56] <fabio> yes
[04:56] <Konam> can someone help me?  I get this from my wireless card on a dv2000 laptop: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48171/
[04:56] <fabio> sms gatewat
[04:56] <fabio> konam
[04:56] <Myrtti> utty: hullo?
[04:56] <fabio> first
[04:56] <jsu> bulmer, im not using any gateways or anything, just two devices, a phone and laptop. i have internet on my phone. i would like to have it on my laptop. i can in windows. i cant in ubuntu yet.
[04:56] <bulmer> jsu-> also am not quite familiar with bluez yet
[04:56] <boubbin> craigbass1976 well, i already found the answer
[04:56] <chumby> does xinerama need to be installed to get 2 screens working?
[04:57] <fabio> Konam: first go to aplications add remove programs
[04:57] <craigbass1976> What was it?
[04:57] <fabio> Konam and search for word wifi
[04:57] <craigbass1976> boubbin, what was it?
[04:57] <bulmer> jsu-> find out what this evdo service is about, maybe once you have more detailed info, we can assist
[04:57] <boubbin> craigbass1976 kompozer is fine to me
[04:57] <jsu> bulmer, :-( . well anybody else got some advice to offer?
[04:57] <craigbass1976> Konam, what was that output from?
[04:58] <craigbass1976> boubbin, awesome.  So your one step further from windows now?
[04:58] <jsu> bulmer, evdo is just the way my phone connects, as oppossed to for eg 3G/EDGE on GSM
[04:58] <bulmer> jsu-> at one time, someone here did get those thing to work...i suggested he write a tutorial, i dont know if ever did
[04:58] <Konam> fabio do you have any idea of what is my problem right?
[04:58] <boubbin> craigbass1976 well i moved from windows one year ago so hopefully :P
[04:58] <Myrtti> jsu: which phone?
[04:58] <jsu> bulmer, that shouldn't really make a difference
[04:58] <Konam> craigbass1976 dmesg
[04:58] <fabio> Konam pvt
[04:58] <bulmer> jsu-> but the otherside of that is ppp or ethernet?
[04:58] <unagi> anyone have problems with ubuntu hanging going into or coming out of hibernation or sleepp?
[04:58] <Konam> fabio pvt?
[04:59] <jsu> Myrtti, its a HTC (Sprint) Touch
[04:59] <Myrtti> !register | fabio, Konam
[04:59] <ubotu> fabio, Konam: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[05:00] <Konam> I'm registered
[05:00] <craigbass1976> boubbin, ah.  You sleep better?
[05:00] <craigbass1976> So everyone... I asked and had to leave...  Why can't I burn cds?  k3b and the GNOME burner both go through the motions, but I end up with a blank disc.  I did a mkisofs and cdrecord with the same results-- everything flew by fine, it fixated, but still just a blank disc when I was done.
[05:00] <fabio> konam your computer dont detect the wifi card?
[05:00] <jsu> Myrtti, but as i said the phone has PAN running properly as i have tested it in windows
[05:01] <Konam> fabio it does detect it and recognize it but it doesn't recognize my wireless network
[05:01] <bulmer> jsu-> its just a matter of getting ppp to work on that link..but you have to do a bit more digging..the handshake of ppp and such
[05:01] <fabio> konam u do it what i sayit?
[05:01] <Konam> fabio yes
[05:02] <Konam> i searched for the word wifi
[05:02] <Konam> now what?
[05:02] <fabio> dont apears any pakage?
[05:02] <jsu> bulmer, im a bit confused, cus i thought that im using PAN not ppp
[05:02] <Konam> ndiswrapper
[05:02] <fabio> to instal?
[05:02] <bulmer> jsu-> what does PAN stood for?
[05:02] <Konam> fabio pvt?
[05:02] <j1solutions> personal area network
[05:03] <bulmer> jsu-> explain the protocol it uses..am sure its ppp..
[05:03] <jsu> bulmer, its the bluetooth profile for networking. Personal Area Network
[05:03] <jsu> bulmer, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_area_network
[05:03] <Voyage__> craigbass1976 -  i dont care about the system........ i care about data. drives mounted......eg. a friend of mine, a virus can do any things what a user logged in can do.......for that  i want to increase security of my folders. i want any users to only be able to view its contents. a password should be asked every time if modifing or deleting...  how can do it?
[05:04] <bulmer> jsu-> you have to do some digging, i gave you a hint on what needs to be setup...ppp..am just not quite in the mood to go over ppp at the moment
[05:04] <cerealkiller> GUYS
[05:05] <cerealkiller> have a question, how can i install a new metacity manually
[05:05] <fabio> konam; It enables you to scan for available networks and create profiles for your preferred networks. At boot time, running Wi-Fi Radar will automatically scan for an available preferred network and connect to it. You can drag and drop your preferred networks to arrange the profile priority.
[05:05] <jsu> bulmer, ok thanks for the tip. although i still dont think it has anything to do with ppp. afaik im connecting with a protocol called pan, not ppp.
[05:05] <Konam> fabio that will solve my problem?
[05:05] <fabio> wifi radar
[05:06] <fabio> yes
[05:06] <Konam> have you ever deal with my problem before?
[05:06] <bulmer> jsu-> argue as much as you can, its ppp..on the digital side of it..like having an audio modem..the other side to use is ppp
[05:06] <cerealkiller> have a question, how can i install a new metacity manually
[05:06] <Konam> fabio did you read what i put in pastebin?
[05:06] <Voyage__> craigbass1976 acls?
[05:06] <fabio> no
[05:06] <Poisonkiller> cerealkiller: can't you use Synaptic?
[05:07] <ckin2001> bulmer, ppp for evdo service?
[05:07] <cerealkiller> i install it by using kde.but manually in ubuntu i dont know how
[05:07] <Konam> fabio so how can you know what my problem is
[05:07] <Voyage__> !acl
[05:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:07] <Konam> ?
[05:07] <fabio> konam: u cant detect wifi network
[05:07] <Voyage__> !acls
[05:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acls - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:07] <Voyage__> craigbass1976 how about i run dolphin as root and change the permisions of the mounted drive/file to read only by others and write acces to root only ?
[05:07] <craigbass1976> Voyage__, Hang on, I'll see if I can find a link or two
[05:07] <Konam> fabio isn't just that
[05:07] <utty> im an idiot srry i tried to get it from the georgia tech mrror and it messed up the second time it labled it 8.10
[05:08] <underwatercow> can anyone tell me why installing "flashplugin-nonfree" on my other computer isn't allowing it to play flash?
[05:08] <fabio> Konam; try what i told you
[05:08] <craigbass1976> Voyage__, I don't knwo what dolhin is
[05:08] <Poisonkiller> any1 knows the exact date when Hardy Heron comes out?
[05:08] <Konam> if you read my pastebin you'd understand
[05:08] <jsu> bulmer, im not argueing, if you say so i guess you know more than me. im quite new to ubuntu and linux just testing to see if i like it, so far its pretty cool expect its useless to me without internet
[05:08] <fabio> konam say me the link
[05:08] <Konam> is a problem with my card, kind off, its recognize but not totally
[05:08] <theremper> hello here is a complete newbie question what whould happen if I copied my windows folder to wines windows folder
[05:08] <fabio> u did lsusb????
[05:08] <bulmer> jsu-> get a nicer wifi nic card, plenty of them available, dont use blue-tooth
[05:09] <Konam> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48171/
[05:09] <Konam> there you go fabio
[05:09] <kawarazu> Could anyone help meh? I can't seem to direct connect with anyone.
[05:09] <kawarazu> o.o;
[05:09] <kawarazu> Help?
[05:09] <Ubuntu2> how much memory is needed to run 7.10 efficiently
[05:09] <utty> my hashes wont compare the same and ive d/l it 3 times should i just get the disk sent to me?
[05:09] <Dr_willis> kawarazu,  direct connect?
[05:09] <craigbass1976> Voyage__, what's dolphin?
[05:09] <Dr_willis> !dolphin
[05:09] <theremper> ubuntu2 at least 512
[05:09] <ubotu> Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[05:10] <ckin2001> jsu, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothDialup
[05:10] <Poisonkiller> Ubuntu2: about 512, if you want to use eye candy, like compiz
[05:10] <fabio> konam: u did lsapi
 it gnome whats the counterpart of kdesu konqueror
[05:10] <Voyage__> craigbass1976 file manager
[05:10] <Ubuntu2> ty  theremper
[05:10] <Voyage__> craigbass1976 file manager = dolphin
[05:10] <craigbass1976> Voyage__, how long have you been running Linux?
[05:10] <theremper> posionkiller also answered
[05:10] <Voyage__> craigbass1976 1 month
[05:10] <underwatercow> I installed "flashplugin-nonfree" on my other computer which is what I've always done to get flash, but for some reason flash still won't play on the other computer. It brings up the plugin detection and lists flash as a choice, but then says it's already installed.
[05:10] <Ubuntu2> I have 256 at present
[05:10] <Poisonkiller> cerealkiller: you can use konqueror in gnome too :P
[05:10] <Konam> fabio lspci
[05:10] <fabio> yes
[05:10] <Ubuntu2> just upgraded to 710
[05:11] <Dr_willis> You can even drag and drop files from Konqueror to the Gnome File manager :)
[05:11] <Konam> fabio, to get that message i used dmesg
[05:11] <craigbass1976> Voyage__, ok.   What you would do to make things only readable is to chmod them
[05:11] <theremper> ubuntu2 you should see a speed boost
[05:11] <Voyage__> craigbass1976 chmod?
[05:11] <Ubuntu2> I cannot seem to make java work in opera
[05:11] <jsu> ckin2001, thanks im taking a look
[05:12] <craigbass1976> Voyage__, Can you open up a private window?  I'm getting tired of typing your name so you see it better
 ic.because its so hard for me to copy and paste using root privilege
[05:12] <fabio> konam install the pakage wifi radar
[05:12] <Dr_willis> craigbass1976,  try Vo<tab key>
[05:12] <Poisonkiller> Ubuntu2: if you have 256mb ram, then turn off any desktop effects and start using opera instead of firefox, cause it has gotten to laggy
[05:12] <bulmer> jsu-> as i read up on it, you modem on your cdma or cellfone with this service hands you a serial port, then from serial one has to get ppp on top of it..
[05:12] <Konam> fabio i did and it didn't solve the problem
[05:12] <theremper> ubuntu2 I had the same problem i uninstalled java and reinstalled it
[05:12] <craigbass1976> Dr_willis, I hadn't checked if he was the only one in here like that...
[05:12] <Jesus|Freak> How do you get two ubuntu computers that are on a LAN to recognize each other?
[05:12] <sunogbaga> exit
[05:12] <Konam> fabio as expected
[05:12] <Voyage__> craigbass1976 no my nick is not reg
[05:13] <Poisonkiller> cerealkiller: you don't have to use command line to move files, sudo nautilus is better in my opinion
[05:13] <Ubuntu2> I and very new to linux how do u turn off the effects
[05:13] <theremper> posionkiller he said he upgraded to 710
[05:13] <jsu> bulmer, if you say so
[05:13] <Dr_willis> Jesus|Freak,  several ways. If you can ping each others ips they are connected. :) but how you want to see each other and do things depends. You can transfer files with samba, or nfs, or ssh.
[05:13] <Jesus|Freak> How do you set them so they ping?
[05:13] <analogue_> anyone know how i can tell if a kernel module is bound to the base kernel or loaded as a LKM?
[05:13] <theremper> anyone knows what would happen if I copied my my windows folder to wines window folder
[05:13] <bulmer> jsu-> yep ...you can verify by googling
[05:13] <Poisonkiller> Ubuntu2:  System->Preferences->Appearance->Visual Effects
[05:14] <Dr_willis> Jesus|Freak,  if they are on the same network and have the right ip's try pinging each other.
[05:14] <craigbass1976> Voyage__, ok, chmod changes permissions on a file.  every file has three sets of permissions for the most part.  There's owner, group, and other.  Then there's Read, Write, and execute.  So, for every file, you can give any combination of rwx to those files that you want.
[05:14] <fabio> konam i dont know here is the problem now
[05:14] <fabio> try search in forum
[05:14] <Jesus|Freak> It will not respond when I try to ping one or the other.
[05:14] <bulmer> Jesus|Freak-> make sure their route table is okay..both sides
[05:14] <theremper> quess not
[05:15] <Jesus|Freak> How do you do that?
[05:15] <ckin2001> Voyage__, google for linux acls.  they allow more fine-grained control than is available with rwx permissions.
[05:15] <Ubuntu2> ok poison found it ty
[05:15] <craigbass1976> Voyage__, wide open would be rwxrwxrwx (read write execute for owner, group, and others)  what you're looking for would be rwxr--r-- (however it actually looks) which can be accomplished by typing chmod 744 filename
[05:15] <bulmer> Jesus|Freak-> route -n  will show you
[05:15] <jsu> bulmer, k, i guess i was just searching for pan straight. anyways iv got some instructions, im going to reboot into ubuntu and see what i can do.. thanks for the help
[05:15] <craigbass1976> Voyage__, ls -l will show you the permissions of a file btw
[05:15] <Voyage__> craigbass1976 i did the same. i ran filemanager by root access. changed the options for .. the root is able to write only. others only view. but its says "stailed" when i press ok. it doesnt applies changes
[05:15] <boubbin> craigbass1976 well i get laid more often now ;)
[05:15] <fabio> how to refine graphics ????
[05:15] <Ubuntu2> I go to the java site it says that I have the latest version
[05:16] <craigbass1976> Voyage__, I've never changed permissions in a gui, so I don't know what you're dealing with
[05:16] <bulmer> jsu->  no problem, modem is modem..it goes through a serial or ethernet, this case its serial then ppp on top of it
[05:16] <Ubuntu2> works in firefox
[05:16] <analogue_> anyone know how i can tell if a kernel module is bound to the base kernel or loaded as a LKM?
[05:16] <Ubuntu2> but not opera
[05:16] <craigbass1976> boubbin, HAH!
[05:16] <Voyage__> craigbass1976 thanks!
[05:16] <craigbass1976> Voyage__, wait, there's more...
[05:16] <Voyage__> l
[05:16] <jsu> bulmer, ok, ill try.. back later
[05:16] <Voyage__> k
[05:17] <Poisonkiller> Ubuntu2: try uninstalling opera, downloading latest version from their homepage and installing that instead
[05:17] <maynards-girl> a
[05:17] <fabio> i want to fuck with ubuntu
[05:17] <fabio> lol
[05:17] <craigbass1976> Voyage__, so if you want a folder to have all the same permissions, you do a chmod -R 744 foldername  (-R makes it affect the folder AND all of it's contents)
[05:17] <Ubuntu2> thanks poison will try it
[05:17] <craigbass1976> Voyage__, root doesn't need to own these.  If YOU owned them, the permissions would work the same.  Others could only read them
[05:17] <astro76> !language | fabio
[05:17] <ubotu> fabio: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[05:18] <fabio> !language astro76
[05:18] <astro76> fabio, please don't
[05:18] <tritium> fabio: no, _you_ need to keep your foul language out of this channel
[05:18] <craigbass1976> Voyage__, and I don't knwo what you mean "ran dolphin by root access"  Were you root at the command line and fired up dolphin that way?  Did you log into the whole GUI as root?
[05:18] <fabio> !language | astro76
[05:18] <ubotu> astro76: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[05:18] <Voyage__> craigbass1976 iam the only user. my usnername is loguser  ...    i dont even want me to have a write acces.     if i want to write. i should type a  password
[05:19] <craigbass1976> Voyage__, fair enough
[05:19] <Voyage__> craigbass1976 k menu > run > dolphin  > run as root
[05:19] <fabio> !patience | tritium
[05:19] <ubotu> tritium: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:19] <craigbass1976> Voyage__, never heard of it, but I haven't used KDE for a while either
[05:20] <Voyage__> ic
[05:20] <craigbass1976> what was wrong with konqueror I wonder... and why did they call the new one dolphin?
[05:20] <Voyage__> its name is dolphine
[05:20] <Dr_willis> craigbass1976,  dolphin is the new file manager for kde4.
[05:20] <Voyage__> new file manager
[05:21] <Dr_willis> i always set it back to use Konqueror.
[05:21] <tritium> craigbass1976: nothing wrong with konqueror, they just wanted something with fewer advanced features (for simplicity)
[05:21] <Poisonkiller> craigbass1976: maybe it doesn't conquer your desktop any more :D
[05:21] <Jesus|Freak> How do you set up the ip routing table?
is it possible to shares folder with ntfs format in smb
[05:21] <ckin2001> Jesus|Freak, man route
[05:22] <Dr_willis> cerealkiller,  ive heard that its doable. :)
[05:22] <j1solutions> cerealkiller: yes
[05:22] <craigbass1976> Ahh, could be.  Being conquered was why I decided to come to linux in the first place
[05:22] <lpftr> cerealkiller: Are you sharing from Ubuntu?
[05:23] <Poisonkiller> cerealkiller: should be possible with samba, i haven't messed with it, i don't have any ntfs partitions
[05:23] <j1solutions> not too fun system
[05:23] <ckin2001> cerealkiller, if you can mount it in linux, you can share it with samba
[05:23] <j1solutions> agreed ckin2001
[05:23] <craigbass1976> cerealkiller, why does it need to be an ntfs partiton?  the remote windows box won't know the difference
[05:24] <lpftr> Yes, that's the right answer, ckin2001
[05:24] <xiawu> ／list
[05:24] <imyousuf> ckin2001 Thanks for the help the other day :). This is what I used it for http://imyousuf-tech.blogspot.com/2007/12/guarding-against-softwares-with-memory.html
[05:25] <silent_> I'm trying to burn an iso, but the burner keeps telling me I need to insert a cd with a certain capacity... I'm certain the cd is adequate, I'm thinking the OS isn't communicating with the burner properly... it is a Plextor 16/10/40 burner.
[05:25] <imyousuf> ckin2001, with looped cron job not it stops from IDEA crashing my laptop :)
[05:25] <silent_> err Plexwriter*
[05:26] <ckin2001> imyousuf, does it shut down the program gracefully if it is over memory limit?
[05:26] <Dr_willis> silent_,  you sure you are not trying to burn a 700 mb image to a 640mb disk?
[05:26] <imyousuf> yes ckin2001 :)
[05:27] <ckin2001> nice
[05:27] <silent_> Dr_willis: the image is a couple megabytes, the disc is 700mb
[05:27] <silent_> it's Darik's boot  n' nuke
[05:27] <imyousuf> ckin2001 but I required a cronjob+loop for the trick :)
[05:27] <lpftr> silent_, What software are you using to burn the CD?
[05:27] <kjp2> how can I get gdm/defualt x install automatically include vnc ?
[05:27] <silent_> lpftr: the default burner.. right click menu -> burn to disc
[05:28] <silent_> Write to disc*
[05:28] <lpftr> The file is an iso file, right?
[05:28] <silent_> It is
[05:28] <Dr_willis> kjp2,  not sure thats doable.. you can set up vnc as a service where it can auto run and display a gdm login. - But that wont share the currently seen/existing desktop - it will be a seperate spawned desktop
[05:29] <kjp2> Dr_willis: ok, how do I do the GDM login over vnc ?
[05:29] <n00bie> how can i set terminal window size when e.g. opening 'mutt' ?   (i would like it to be bigger than the standard size terminal window)
[05:29] <lpftr> You should try burning the iso from the shell: cdrecord -v -pad speed=1 dev=0,0,0 src.iso
[05:29] <silent_> will do
[05:29] <n00bie> sorry for my bad english, please say if my question is unclear
[05:29] <Dr_willis> kjp2,  i recall ages ago finding a howto on some site. :) I forget where.  I think it was on a gentoo wiki. It had vnc spawning with inetd  as needed.
[05:29] <lpftr> That way, you know it's not a problem with the software.
[05:29] <silent_> if write succeeds, what options do I have for fixing the problem?
[05:29] <lpftr> Sometimes, the settings can get in the way.
[05:30] <kjp2> Dr_willis: Ok, if you find the pointer, feel free to pass it on
[05:30] <lpftr> Well, then you have to investigate what's wrong with the software.
[05:30] <Dr_willis> kjp2,  I just 'ssh' to the remote box and run vncserver manually,  when i need to.
[05:30] <Poisonkiller> what is the best bittorrent client in ubuntu?
[05:30] <Dr_willis> Poisonkiller,  depends on your needs. :)
[05:30] <lpftr> The other question I have to ask: when was the last time you burned with the unit?
[05:30] <silent_> the program 'cdrecord' is currently not installed
[05:30] <silent_> o_O
[05:31] <riffic> cdrecord is deprecated
[05:31] <bjbum> is there no way easy way to disable the touchpad in ubuntu? >.<
[05:31] <riffic> silent_: jorg schilling lol
[05:31] <Poisonkiller> Dr_willis: do you recommend anything? ;P
[05:31] <lpftr> In other words, are you sure the Plexwriter works.
[05:31] <Dr_willis> Poisonkiller,  i use ktorrent.
[05:31] <silent_> I'm sure the device itself works, I've used it in windows
[05:31] <lpftr> Hmm
[05:32] <pingu> hey guys
[05:32] <soldats> hello
[05:32] <silent_> lpftr: what is the new burn utility since cdrecord is deprecated?
[05:32] <Dr_willis> bjbum,  i got a button on my laptop that turns it off. :)  Theres also the optional gsynaptic or ksynaptic (i think) tools that give you a way to configure them on the fly
[05:32] <Dr_willis> gsynaptics - configuration tool for Synaptics touchpad driver of X server  and   ksynaptics - Synaptics TouchPad configuration tool for KDE
[05:32] <lpftr> silent_: Hold on, I am trying to remember what I use.
[05:33] <riffic> silent_: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/source/cdrtools
[05:33] <bjbum> i've enabled shmconfig (i think that's what it's called?) and installed gsynaptic from the synaptic package manager, but don't see where to open it
[05:33] <bazhang> Poisonkiller: transmission
[05:33] <mikebot> How do I install a .tar.gz?
[05:33] <cristhian> totem cant play my rented dvd . what can i do ?
[05:33] <Dr_willis> bjbum,  try typing gsynaptic in a terminal?
[05:34] <DG19075> I've used K3B, GnomeBaker, Brasero, and Graveman to burn ISO's
[05:34] <riffic> silent_: in feisty, cdrecord is a dummy package for wodim
[05:34] <soldats> mikebot, untar then you need to compile it
[05:34] <bjbum> not found Dr_willis :(
[05:34] <riffic> in gutsy and hardy it got moved to multiverse
[05:34] <riffic> due to jorg schilling non-freeness
[05:34] <mikebot> soldats: How do I do that?
[05:34] <bazhang> cristhian: you need libdvdcss2 from medibuntu.org
[05:35] <silent_> riffic: so I need to use wodim?
[05:35] <riffic> silent_: http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/otherosfs/cdrecord
[05:35] <n00bie> how can i set terminal window size when e.g. opening 'mutt' ?   (i would like it to be bigger than the standard size terminal window)
[05:35] <n00bie> sorry for my bad english, please say if my question is unclear
[05:35] <soldats> mikebot, unpack it and read the README file
[05:35] <riffic> silent_: wodim should be installed already
[05:35] <mikebot> untar command not found?..
[05:35] <riffic> wodim is a fork
[05:36] <riffic> these are command line cd writing software
[05:36] <Pici> mikebot: tar xzvf filename.tar.g
[05:36] <lpftr> silent_: DG19075 made me remember, I use K3B.
[05:36] <Pici> mikebot: er, .gz
[05:36] <Dr_willis> mikebot,  what is it that you are trying to install from source anyway?
[05:36] <mikebot> Pici: Thanks.
[05:36] <riffic> for gui, you can't go wrong with k3b
[05:37] <silent_> riffic: That's what I need at the moment, I need to test if I can burn at least at the command line level
[05:37] <riffic> i just burn stuff on my mac its easier and just works
[05:37] <lpftr> silent_: I would go to your add/remove program and add k3b.  Give it a try and see if that works for you.
[05:37] <silent_> k3b compatible with gnome?
[05:37] <soldats> mikebot, after you do that read the README file and follow the instuctions
[05:37] <riffic> it'll work in gnome
[05:37] <DG19075> K3B is solid
[05:37] <lpftr> Yes, that what I am using.
[05:37] <riffic> its a kde app so it'll install kde deps like qt libs
[05:37] <lapugo25> .chakranet.com
[05:38] <riffic> what version are you using? gutsy?
[05:38] <DG19075> I just wanted to see what graveman would be like so am giving it a go
[05:38] <silent_> riffic: of course
[05:38] <lpftr> I am using gutsy.
[05:38] <Poisonkiller> where can i change mouse gestures in opera?
[05:38] <silent_> Poisonkiller: try Opera:config
[05:38] <mikebot> It's just a folder, and it says install it
[05:38] <riffic> ah ok wodim should be installed already. it uses the same arguments as cdrecord since its a fork
[05:39] <silent_> or config:opera something like taht
[05:39] <riffic> so give that a try
[05:39] <Ttech> Whats K3B?
[05:39] <riffic> Ttech: its a kde cd burning app
[05:39] <Ttech> Oh
[05:39] <Falstius> I just updated my machine from feisty to gutsy.  Do I need to install anything to get the desktop effects?  There doesn't seem to be a configuration for it in the system->preferences menu.
[05:39] <lpftr> Poisonkiller: Tools->Preferences->Advanced->Shortcuts.
[05:39] <Ttech> Is there a way to bring back the applications:// thing in gnome?
[05:40] <lpftr> By the way, love those mouse gestures in Opera.
[05:40] <jrib> Falstius: "appearance"
[05:40] <timandtom> Is there a good place on IRC to ask about OpenOffice's Spreadsheet thing that comes with Ubuntu? Or, does anyone know if I can link to files in it(In Ubuntu or Windows)
[05:40] <biabia> Ii am trying to burn some music discs with serpentine from .mp3, it seems to prepare to write but wont recognize when I insert a blank disc in either dvdr or cdr drive. Not sure what to do. The cdr drive worked for installing ubuntu but the dvdr drive wouldnt. and both drives used to work when this was a windows machine
[05:41] <jrib> timandtom: #openoffice.org
[05:41] <Falstius> jrib: woo, it is all bouncy now.  Thanks.
[05:41] <Ttech> Anyone on mine?
[05:41] <silent_> k3b is doing something
[05:41] <abhi> i have a question: i am installing gutsy gibbon on a machine which already has feisty installed on it. i have all required software packages for gutsy on another machine. is there anyway i can copy those packages from the other machine and install them in this machine through a simple command?
[05:41] <silent_> preparing to write
[05:41] <silent_> writing
[05:41] <jrib> !please > ttech (read the private message from ubotu)
[05:41] <silent_> awesome, thanks guys
[05:41] <ackbahr> Hi! I'd like Gusty to startup with sound set to "mute", is there a way to automate this?
[05:41] <timandtom> Thanks jrib
[05:41]  * Ttech hides
[05:41] <Ttech> sorry jrib
[05:42] <lpftr> Here are some tips for everyone using desktop effects: WinKey+E, and WinKey+Tab
[05:42] <lpftr> Try it and see.
[05:42] <bjbum> hmmm Dr_willis I just found this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gsynaptics/+bug/155119
[05:42] <jrib> Ttech: np, it's just that you force people to scroll up when you do that (and most people won't bother) so it's best to just wait 5 or 10 minutes and repeat
[05:42] <bjbum> it seems I'm not the only one that's having this problem?
[05:42]  * Ttech times. :P
[05:43] <ryanbae> anyone ever get one of the canon Pixma series printers to work under ubuntu?
[05:43] <kitofhawaii> lpftr: :) "super key" not winkey :-P
[05:43] <syndr0> help. my firefox thinks firefox is open and wont open
[05:43] <syndr0> ive restarted
[05:43] <lpftr> kitofhawaii: Thanks, I guess I've used that term too long.
[05:44] <xwin> I'm a newbie Ubuntu user, long time Red Hat, Fedora user.  How can I change 'root' password?
[05:44] <silent_> kitofhawaii: I need to sand down my windows key.. stencil a tux and paint it on
[05:44] <astro76> !sudo | xwin
[05:44] <ubotu> xwin: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:44]  * Ttech times.
[05:44] <Ttech> Do <Super>M and press it a few times. :P
[05:44] <Ttech> It hurts.
[05:45] <Dr_willis> bjbum,  /usr/bin/gsynaptics is where the binary is at.. Im not yusing gnome. so cant test it out
[05:45] <silent_> where are kde apps found in the gnome apps menu?
[05:45] <allan_> can somebody help me with a mounting issue?
[05:45] <silent_> I can't seem to find k3b
[05:45] <xwin> I was able to change non root user password but not password
[05:45] <lpftr> silent_: What do you mean?
[05:45] <bruenig> silent_, it will be in applications....
[05:45] <silent_> lpftr: the shortcut to load k3b
[05:45] <Dr_willis> xwin,  by default the root user has no password, direct logging in as root is disabled. use your main user account and the sudo command or the gnome/kde rquilivents
[05:45] <silent_> ah, sound and video, nvm, thanks lpftr
[05:46] <allan_> can somebody help me with a mounting issue?
[05:46] <bjbum> i've opened it Dr_willis and clicked disable and closed. i even restarted the xserver. the touchpad is still working :(
[05:46] <lpftr> np, silent_
[05:46] <kitofhawaii> Ttech: i use super + n/m all the time...helps with high contrast for reading text on webpages (black characters on high white background too harsh on the eyes)
[05:46] <DG19075> silent_, it will be in Applications>Sound and Video
 some printers require this special driver: I got it ti work doing that
[05:46] <Ttech> kitofhawaii, yeah but not fast. :D
[05:46] <silent_> DG19075: I beat ya to it ;P
[05:46] <Ttech> LOL
[05:46] <syndr0> help. my firefox thinks firefox is open and wont open
[05:46] <syndr0> ive restarted
[05:46] <Dr_willis> bjbum,  no idea there - you do need to enable some feature in the xorg.conf.   Sorry.
[05:48] <lpftr> That's why I asked.
[05:48] <Donka> docgnome: it just disappears all the time lol
[05:49] <Poisonkiller> m1k3: it is when you let it to infect your system
[05:49] <Dr_willis> m1k3,    check the wiki page on the bliss virus. It aparently just messes with the users executables..  so in theory yes. Since a user has to be  run it.
[05:49] <kitofhawaii> lpftr: it's defined in my compiz for fit zoomed area to window
[05:49] <docgnome> Donka: hrm... strange.
[05:49] <Dr_willis> m1k3,  it aint much of a virus.. :)
[05:49] <Donka> ya so how do i get my old toolbar back lol
[05:49] <Poisonkiller> m1k3: it can't just install itself, you have to install it yourself :D
[05:49] <silent_> I love zooming around my desktop in 640x480
[05:49] <silent_> its the best

[05:50] <syndr0> how can a close a program thats running like ctrl alt del on windows
[05:50] <balleyne> hello - I have a question about preparing Windows XP for dual-boot... any takers? I defrag and defrag but I can't seem to move a few files that are sitting toward the end of an otherwise clear drive
[05:50] <Dr_willis> silent_,  my wife sets her desktop as low as it goes.. so she can see her solitare cards better. :)
[05:50] <ckin2001> syndr0, if it has a window open, run xkill and click the window
[05:50] <silent_> Dr_willis: press Super+R
[05:50] <Ttech> whats awm?
[05:50] <syndr0> the windoes not open
[05:50] <Poisonkiller> syndr0: gnome system monitor can kill processes
[05:50] <balleyne> syndr0: gnome-system-monitor (there's an applet for the panel you can add) give you a GUI, or kill, killlall, something like that from the command line
[05:51] <syndr0> ty
[05:51] <ckin2001> kill -9 $pidofprocess
[05:51] <silent_> good old kill dash nine
[05:51] <ckin2001> i always kill with prejudice :D
[05:51] <silent_> bit rash, don't you think?
[05:51] <biabia> my burners dvdr and cdr wont recognize blank media. what can I do
[05:51] <silent_> that is the BFG of killing processes
[05:51]  * bruenig likes how silent_ pretends to understand kill -9 but can't understand how the menu works
[05:51] <lpftr> silent_: Sorry, didn't mean to cause such a headache.
[05:52] <silent_> bruenig: command line is my area, I'm lost in graphics
[05:52] <Dr_willis> silent_,  that aint going to work here :)
[05:52] <bruenig> silent_, so why didn't you just go to /usr/share/applications and see for yourself what the Categories for k3b were?
[05:53] <balleyne> Windows XP help anyone? preparing for a dual-boot, need some help...
[05:53] <silent_> bruenig: getting used to the gui has made me lazy
[05:53]  * bruenig doesn't buy silent_'s story
[05:54] <silent_> good thing my story is open-source
[05:54] <pingu> hey guys
[05:54] <wy> I want to reinstall the whole system. But I there is a partition table error. I want to solve it before my fresh install.
[05:54] <silent_> bazing
[05:54] <Dr_willis> balleyne,  could just try resizing the partition with gparted and see what happens. I recall windows not being able to defrag/move some things - Swap file?  at times
[05:54] <kahrytan> wy➲  then delete it
[05:54] <wy> Any ideas how to diagnose this type of error in linux?
[05:54] <Dr_willis> balleyne,  theres also some 3rd party defragger tools for windows.
[05:55] <pingu> hey does any know how to manipulate the task bar on the top of the screen
[05:55] <wy> kahrytan: Just simply delete it? But I don't even know the error is in which partition.
[05:55] <noiesmo> wy, maybe run a hard drive manufactures test on drive before reinstall ensure the drive wont just crap out again
[05:55] <kahrytan> wy➲  just reformat the hard drive. and make new table. unless you want to keep the data
[05:55] <silent_> enabling zoom desktop undid the Super+R function as each object was rendered
[05:55] <Kagar> what's a reccomended bot -- linux friendly and decently easy to use?
[05:55]  * bruenig points Dr_willis to another mysterious mention of this "taskbar"
[05:55] <Kagar> for an IRC channel
[05:55] <kitofhawaii> balleyne: http://www.nishants.net/articles/ntfsresize.htm if you're up for it
[05:55] <balleyne> Dr_willis, I've had this issue before and I was able to resize, but not very far.. only to the point of the last file on the disk... I have 189 GB of free space, but it looks like there's only about 15 GB at the end.. lol...
[05:55] <kahrytan> wy➲  Do you use windows?
[05:56] <silent_> balleyne: that's why you partition before you install operating systems *facepalm*
[05:56] <wy> kahrytan: Any ideas how to reformat the whole disk? It seems I can't find this option in BIOS
[05:56] <Kagar> kahrytan - I got banned from offtopic for a mont
[05:56] <kahrytan> wy➲  you got windows partition?
[05:56] <Kagar> month
[05:56] <wy> kahrytan: Yes. I need to reinstall windows first. Then linux
[05:56] <kahrytan> Kagar➲  goto #kahrytan
[05:56] <balleyne> silent: I certainly would have done that if I didn't get this computer years ago, lol =\
[05:56] <wy> kahrytan: gparted reports the whole partition as empty. But both of my systems can still boot
[05:57] <balleyne> kitofhawaii: thanks fr the link, taking a look now
[05:57] <silent_> balleyne: Then it's due for it's regular windows reinstall anyway... that system must be running slow as hell
[05:57] <silent_> don't you know windows destroys itself from the inside out over time?
[05:57] <kahrytan> wy➲  if you just reinstalling everything, just format the disk. gparted can delete partitions.  and so will windows on install
[05:57] <wy> It's really weird I often got partition table errors when I have two systems.
[05:57] <kahrytan> wy➲  you could try diagnostics software from hdd mfg
[05:58] <wy> kahrytan: That would be ... hitachi
[05:58] <zoexii> hello, is there a command that I can type to determine my version of Xorg?
[05:58] <kahrytan> wy➲  You got the bootable cd from them?
[05:58] <pingu> any one know how to manipulate the task bar
[05:59] <bruenig> pingu, right click
[05:59] <zoexii> pingu, right click?
[05:59] <balleyne> silent_: oh, I know, but this machine doesn't get used that often. Everything else I use is GNU/Linux, but this has an app I use for recording music - I'm hoping to install Ubuntu studio so that I can  finally ditch Windows altogether. I've kept my Windows install in really good shape though, so it's still running fine (I mean, fine for windows, lol)
[05:59] <bruenig> zoexii, X -version
[05:59] <kahrytan> wy➲  just format the hdd.
[05:59] <wy> kahrytan: No. It's a lenovo T60. I used to have a partition which contains the utilities. But I deleted it
[05:59] <pingu> tried that, i want to organize it and it wont let me
[05:59] <Dr_willis> pingu,  right click in the proper place :)
[05:59] <wy> kahrytan: Do you mean "low level" format?
[06:00] <silent_> balleyne: I'm boot n nuking my vista install
[06:00] <zoexii> bruenig, cool, thank.
[06:00] <biabia> Ok, whats the pronounciation for Ubuntu. I went into the local smallish pc store and mentioned it and my mispronounciation got me an awkward stare
[06:00] <bruenig> pingu, well this could just be gnome being gnome but what are you doing
[06:00] <silent_> balleyne: happiest day of my life
[06:00] <kitofhawaii> wy: grab a friend's windows 98 disk and fdisk the data good bye if you really want to :) they're usually being used as coffee coasters :0
[06:00] <kahrytan> wy➲   try regular format first, then zero it
[06:00] <silent_> kahrytan: ugh... I had to do that once
[06:00] <balleyne> silent_: hehe I know the feeling :)
[06:00] <wy> kahrytan: Then I would need something from the manufactorer
[06:01] <kahrytan> wy➲  or floppy disk that windows makes?
[06:01] <kitofhawaii> wy: or fdisk off the ubuntu live cd :)
[06:01] <kahrytan> kitofhawaii➲  get my msg?
[06:01] <pingu> bruenig: just trying to move some icons around where i want them
[06:01] <Dr_willis> for the truely paranoid. I recall some live cd's that had 'disk secure deletion' tools on them
[06:02] <kitofhawaii> kahrytan: which one? sorry :)
[06:02] <wy> Thanks.
[06:02] <bruenig> pingu, right click on them, make sure they are "unlocked" whatever the hell that even means, and then right click and move
[06:02] <silent_> balleyne: I kinda want to rip apart system 32 and watch the OS fail upon boot... and laugh loudly into the cold night
[06:02] <NoorulIslaam> biabia, how did you pronounce it?
[06:02] <Myrtti> Dr_willis: dd if=/dev/zero and /dev/urandom couple of times ;-)
[06:03] <zoexii> ok, so X -version gives version 1.3, however ATI installer thinks X.org should be versions 6.8-7.1, Is X server different from X.org?
[06:03] <kahrytan> myrtion➲  what's dd if do?
[06:03] <ckin2001> kahrytan, man dd
[06:04] <kahrytan> Do I have to read some lengthy doc?
[06:04] <balleyne> silent_: ahaahhah, niiice
[06:04] <Myrtti> kahrytan: do you want me to? ;-)
[06:04] <timandtom> Sorry, #openoffice.org is no help, and since OpenOffice IS bundled with Ubuntu... I just need to know, is there a way to link to stuff in a spreadsheet?
[06:04] <kahrytan> myrtion➲  i just want to know what the command does
[06:04] <kitofhawaii> timandtom: what type of link?
[06:05] <Dr_willis> timandtom,  i recall putting embeded spread sheets in OO docs.  :)
[06:05] <pingu> bruenig: thanks
[06:05] <kahrytan> Myrtti➲  oops. Whats the command do?
[06:05] <jahisthebalance> hey I feel really stupid can anyone help me out
[06:05] <Myrtti> dd needs atleast two values, if and of
[06:05] <timandtom> kitofhawaii: like to ~/Desktop/rawr.pdf or something like that
[06:05] <Myrtti> it writes data to a file or a partition
[06:06] <bruenig> !anyone | jahisthebalance you fit in well in this channel
[06:06] <ubotu> jahisthebalance you fit in well in this channel: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:06] <kitofhawaii> timandtom: that's usually done with insert -> object
[06:06] <timandtom> kitofhawaii: and itll just make a clickable link to the object?
[06:06] <jahisthebalance> I deleted the wireless network launcher off the top taskbar and I can't get it back
[06:06] <Myrtti> can be used multiple ways, the most common to write partitions full of zeroes or randomness to erase the data
[06:07] <IcemanV9> zoexii: v1.3?!? can't be .. it should be like this --> X Window System Version x.x.x
[06:07] <Myrtti> kahrytan: read the man for more info
[06:07] <kitofhawaii> timandtom: uhm...lemme try real quick
[06:07] <wers> is there any multisync user here? :)
[06:07]  * bruenig points Dr_willis to another `taskbar' problem
[06:07] <bruenig> jahisthebalance, right click on the panel (read not called taskbar)
[06:07] <kahrytan> Myrtti➲ I remember one time when I used windows, I formated  then booted in dos mode. old data was still there. I did format.
[06:07] <jahisthebalance> yeah its okay to make fun of me... my bad
[06:07] <pingu> jahhisthebalance: right click outside all the other icons and there will be add in that box
[06:07] <Dr_willis> bruenig,  at least he dident lose the whole bar. :)
[06:07] <pingu> then pick it and add it
[06:08] <zoexii> IcemanV9, yes it say 1.3.0
[06:08] <timandtom> kitofhawaii: Ok, awesome :D thanks. Again, sorry for taking this to #ubuntu, but #openoffice.org is too dead
[06:08] <bruenig> I think the score is taskbar - 4, toolbar - 1, oddly enough panel - 0
[06:08] <Dr_willis> bruenig,  i think 1/2 the issue is that ya have to right click in just the rght place to get to some of the menus to tweak the taskbar. :)
[06:08] <Myrtti> kahrytan: dd isn't mkfs
[06:08] <pingu> man we need to be nice
[06:08]  * bruenig awaits the day when someone says panel
[06:08] <kitofhawaii> timandtom: you could do insert -> hyperlink
[06:08] <rabiddachshund> I'm trying to follow this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick but it's not letting me copy /dists/stable or /ubuntu. Are they really necessary?
[06:09] <timandtom> kitofhawaii: and then just type the filepath?
[06:09] <jahisthebalance> I have the whole add to panel bit on there but where is the WiFi?
[06:09] <kitofhawaii> timandtom: file:// is usually the format for that...lemme try that :)
[06:09] <IcemanV9> zoexii: odd. never seen this nbr.
[06:09] <timandtom> kitofhawaii: :D Awesome, thanks!
[06:09] <Myrtti> dd can be used to make *exact* copies of partitions (not as useful as one might think)
[06:09] <kitofhawaii> timandtom: naw...just insert -> hyperlink and then select document
[06:09] <Dr_willis> Actually the WiFi icon in the system tray part of the panel. is a Application you run isent it? Not a 'add to panel widget'
[06:09] <kahrytan> Myrtti➲  I was just commenting how format doesnt erase data that very well.
[06:09] <biabia> NoorulIslaam:  I pronounced it ooo bun 2
[06:10] <silent_> kahrytan: Darik's boot n nuke
[06:10] <timandtom> ok, thanks kitofhawaii!
[06:10] <kahrytan> biabia➲  which is generally correct
[06:10] <NoorulIslaam> biabia, me too
[06:10] <balleyne> Dr_willis: nm-applet maybe?
[06:10] <kahrytan> Ubuntu is pronounced Oo-Boon-too
[06:10] <Myrtti> kahrytan: and that's why we're so lucky to have ubuntu ;-)
[06:10] <biabia> i thought i read someplace its ooo boon too
[06:10] <Myrtti> kahrytan: or any other distro
[06:10] <biabia> which is awkward for me
[06:11] <kahrytan> Myrtti➲  I still use windows but been awhile since booting it.  AVG needs updating :-P
[06:11] <soldats> i perfer oo bun too
[06:11] <zoexii> IcemanV9, nbr?  I dunno, it is an install of Gusty, and I have run updates, so it should be the most recent, the first line returned says "X Window System Version 1.3.0"... and the ati driver installer quits with an error about detected verion of X not having 'x130' directory...
[06:11] <Myrtti> dd comes by default... <3
[06:11] <jahisthebalance> well I have no idea
[06:11] <biabia> cool
[06:11] <timandtom> kitofhawaii: Would there happen to be anyway to make it so instead of /home/brian (my accounts name), it would be /home/whatever the users name is?
[06:12] <kitofhawaii> timandtom: assuming you have access to the path/file
[06:12] <wy> Are there any better ways to partition the disk for a two-system machine? I need a windows and a Ubuntu. Normally I just use sda1 for C:, sda2 is extended. sda5 is D:, sda6 is swap; sda7 is /; sda8 is /home.
[06:12] <IcemanV9> zoexii: hm. wonder if there is a parameter to ignore the version nbr to install ati driver.
[06:12] <timandtom> like, saying i wanted to send this spreadsheet to someone, as well as the files that its linked to, and have the links work
[06:13] <MasterShrek> wy: sda1 for windows c, sda2 for /, sda3 for /home and sda4 for swap
[06:13] <MasterShrek> dont make extended
[06:13] <kahrytan> wy➲  Install Windows, then have Ubuntu resize partition and make / and swap partition.
[06:13] <zoexii> IcemanV9, maybe, I think it's looking for a folder that corresponds to the number.
[06:13] <kahrytan> wy➲  you dont have to have /home partition if you dont want it.
[06:13] <wy> MasterShrek: I want to have a D:
[06:13] <MasterShrek> you dont really need a /home partition though, kinda handy but not nessicary
[06:14] <ckin2001> timandtom, put all the files in one folder, have the links between them relative, and then tar / gzip them to send to someone else
[06:14] <MasterShrek> d: for a cdrom you are talking or for a mounted partition?
[06:14] <timandtom> ckin2001: how do i make it so the links are relative?
[06:14] <wy> MasterShrek: I just want to keep my personal data and settings separate from the system.
[06:14] <kahrytan> wy➲  Linux doesnt use letters for drives
[06:15] <MasterShrek> ah, well yea that'd be the way to do it, what fs you thinking of using?
[06:15] <ckin2001> timandtom, use relative pathnames instead of absolute, i.e. use ./thefilename instaed of /home/username/thefilename
[06:15] <wy> MasterShrek: d: is a partition in windows
[06:15] <jahisthebalance> I just want to open the networks program again so I can switch networks easily like I did less than ten minutes ago
[06:15] <wy> Why you suggest not to have extended?
[06:15] <ckin2001> jahisthebalance, you may need to restart nm-applet
[06:15] <balleyne> wy: letters how Windows mounts a partition, linux mounts partitions directly to the root filesystem
[06:15] <MasterShrek> wy: why do you suggest having one?
[06:16] <timandtom> ckin2001: oook, thanks! so . takes it to the folder that the spreadsheet is in?
[06:16] <IcemanV9> zoexii: well, fwiw, i installed fglrx driver without a glitch. did not have a problem with ATI since then.
[06:16] <ckin2001> timandtom, ./whatever means the present folder, ../whatever is the parent folder
[06:16] <balleyne> wy: sorry, correction - letters are how Windows mounts partitions
[06:16] <wy> MasterShrek: Because I usually have more than 4 partitions. I don't really want it
[06:16] <jahisthebalance> so if it's not incredibly silly to ask, how would I restart nm-applet?
[06:16] <kitofhawaii> kahrytan: can't pm you at the moment...won't let the pm's through (no such nick/channel)
[06:17] <wy> balleyne: I know that. I just try to explain views from two systems.
[06:17] <rohan> i want a module to be loaded on startup - what do i do /
[06:17] <timandtom> ok, awesome, thanks a ton ckin2001
[06:17] <balleyne> jahisthebalance: try typing "nm-applet &" into the terminal (without the quotes)
[06:17] <wy> Why do you suggest swap at the end?
[06:17] <kahrytan> kitofhawaii➲  thats off
[06:17] <kahrytan> kitofhawaii➲  thats odd
[06:18] <rohan> wy: it's just a norm .. not a requirement
[06:18] <MasterShrek> ive heard its faster if its at the end
[06:18] <wy> I often get partition table errors when I have two system. Could that caused by extended partition?
[06:18] <jahisthebalance> balleyne: that didn't quite do it honestly
[06:18] <ckin2001> jahisthebalance, you can also try these two commands : sudo /etc/dbus-1/event.d/25NetworkManager restart , sudo /etc/dbus-1/event.d/26NetworkManagerDispatcher restar
[06:18] <ChrisC35> my ubuntu machine has froze 2 times in the past 3 days
[06:18] <MasterShrek> possibly, ive never used them much though
[06:18] <ckin2001> in order
[06:19] <kitofhawaii> MasterShrek: depends on the manufacturer's low level format
[06:19] <ChrisC35> is there a way I can check the logs to see whats wrong? I've checked temperatures, they are fine
[06:19] <MasterShrek> but if you only have 4 partition, then you dont need an extended partition
[06:19] <balleyne> rohan: I THINK you can just add the module to /etc/modules
[06:19] <rohan> balleyne: ah, thanks
[06:19] <MasterShrek> ic
[06:19] <ckin2001> balleyne, thats what you do
[06:20] <soldats> http://youtube.com/watch?v=79YizcqJuN4 lolwut?
[06:20] <soldats> i luled
[06:20] <wy> MasterShrek: I usually have C: and D: because I keep my data in D:. And all the things in C: is quite disposable
[06:20] <belphegor> hi, can someone help me? i am trying to get my x server to see a font i've installed to /usr/share/fonts/truetype/myfonts.. they all show up in OO and other programs, but xfontsel doesn't pick it up and i need it to for my xscreensaver lock theme. anyone know what's up? thanks!
[06:20] <balleyne> jahisthebalance: nothing happened when you did that? a brute force way could be just to log out and back in, the app should load on startup even if you've managed to close it now
[06:20] <MasterShrek> rohan: you can also put modprobe <module> in /etc/rc.local
[06:20] <wy> MasterShrek: Windows is fragile...
[06:20] <tritium> soldats: don't post offensive URLs, please
[06:20] <MasterShrek> wy: true that
[06:20] <MasterShrek> what filesystem are you going to use for the D: drive?
[06:21] <wy> MasterShrek: sometimes weird things happen and I have to reinstall the system
[06:21] <MasterShrek> i know how that goes
[06:21] <soldats> tritium, oh dang sorry i thought i was somewhere else
[06:21] <wy> MasterShrek: So I want to let the data in D: so that I just need to ghost my fresh windows into C
[06:22] <jahisthebalance> yeah I'll try, hopefully that would do it, I mean, obviously its still connected
[06:22] <MasterShrek> yea, then deal with the rest later, after linux is installed, but are you making your D drive fat32 or what?
[06:22] <wy> I still don't know what's wrong with the partition table. I did it quite carefully
[06:22] <MasterShrek> couldnt tell you
[06:23] <belphegor> anyone know what i mean? the xscreensaver lock is looking for "-*-neuropol-*-r-*-*-*-80-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1" and i have neuropol installed, it just doesn't recognize it... a
[06:23] <docgnome> wy: partition tables are deep magic.
[06:23] <jahisthebalance> it just seems a little counter intuitive for something to be on the panel initially that can be removed but not put back on
[06:23] <wy> MasterShrek: I just made it ntfs
[06:23] <jahisthebalance> oh well I'll see you all soon I hope
[06:23] <MasterShrek> ok, should be good, i was going to suggest that
[06:23] <ckin2001> jahisthebalance, you can also try these two commands : sudo /etc/dbus-1/event.d/25NetworkManager restart , sudo /etc/dbus-1/event.d/26NetworkManagerDispatcher restar
[06:23] <docgnome> wy: I don't think anyone _really_ understands them.
[06:23] <wy> docgnome: That's strange. We can only have four main partitions
[06:23] <balleyne> jahisthebalance: there are some things that are panel items/gadget things, and other things that go into the notification area on the panel when a program is running - that's the difference
[06:23] <wy> I wonder if all the hds are the same.
[06:24] <wy> I've heard of LVM. Is it good?
[06:24] <docgnome> wy: *shrug* no idea. It seems like it wouldn't be a limitation of... what are they called... AH! solid state drives.
[06:24] <docgnome> but I could be wrong.
[06:25] <crazy_bus> I had a number of downloads in my 'downloader for x' list.  However I ran out of hard drive space on one of my partitions.  This seems to have caused the program to lose the download list.  Is their anyway to get it back?
[06:25] <jahisthebalance> fair enough, I'm just gonna logout and in and hope for the best
[06:25] <mage__> crazy_bus: downloader for x?
[06:25] <jahisthebalance> cheers
[06:26] <wy> Maybe I should be more tolerant about this mess. The machine is like a organism full of nasty...
[06:26] <virtual> Is it possible to change the mouse wheel scrolling? like to one page per wheel click
[06:26] <rohan>  MasterShrek thank you
[06:26] <crazy_bus> mage__: download program also called d4x
[06:27] <mage__> so its a download manager, you run out of diskspace and it empties its queue? doesn't seem right
[06:28] <MasterShrek> np rohan :) its quite a handy file really
[06:28] <wy> It's really not decidable. I'd rather we don't have file systems at all.
[06:28] <jesse> have a question here about Terminal as im new to Ubuntu im trying to learn the terminal and my problem seems to be i can move files or items with in a file folder but i cant move it from one location to another am i doing something wrong ?
[06:28] <virtual> Also I have flash installed but firefox doesn't pick it up :/ 7.10
[06:29] <mage__> wy: hahahaha none at all? or just one big one?
[06:29] <IcemanV9> virtual: restart the firefox
[06:29] <virtual> I did
[06:29] <jesse> if anyone has a moment and could help
[06:29] <mage__> how did you install it virtual?
[06:29] <kjp2> wow, i just installed apache and my http.conf is empty
[06:29] <virtual> Still asks me to install the plugin, and it fails then
[06:29] <ckin2001> virtual, did you install the plugin?
[06:29] <balleyne> jesse: what command are you using to move files? try typing 'man mv' (without the quotes)
[06:29] <wy> mage__: Maybe with one huge database
[06:29] <MasterShrek> virtual: 64 bit?
[06:29] <virtual> add/remove in apps
[06:29] <IcemanV9> jesse: what was the command that you tried to move or copy
[06:29] <virtual> 32
[06:29] <mage__> oh
[06:30] <MasterShrek> virtual: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[06:30] <MasterShrek> give that a try
[06:30] <balleyne> jesse: mv is sort of like cut/paste, while cp is more like copy/paste
[06:30] <Kobaka> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[06:30] <jesse> mv -v filename location
[06:30] <Kobaka> yeah
[06:30] <MasterShrek> :)
[06:30] <wy> currently the things are often "lost" in the file system. It's really hard to organize them.
[06:30] <silent_> awn is kinda cool.. installed it to play around with it, not a bad little applet
[06:30] <silent_> I'm not really into eye candy though
[06:30] <jesse> i can get the files to move with inthem selves but i cant seem to move them from one file to another
[06:30]  * MasterShrek isnt either
[06:30] <jesse> err folder to another
[06:30] <virtual> i miss vista's hit winkey and type to find apps :/
[06:31] <virtual> any way of doing that in ubuntu?
[06:31] <ivan> virtual: launchy
[06:31] <ivan> oh, klauncher or something
[06:31] <ivan> klaunchbar?
[06:31] <balleyne> jesse: hmmm... I don't know what that wouldn't be working
[06:31] <ckin2001> jesse, i dont follow what it is that you cant do
[06:31] <stunatra> virtual, ALT+F2
[06:31] <ivan> virtual: Katapult
[06:31] <mage__> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/f/flashplugin-nonfree/flashplugin-nonfree_<IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu0.7.10_i386.deb <-- virtual: might want to install that deb, for flash
[06:31] <MasterShrek> jesse: is it possible you dont have permissions to the target folder?
[06:31] <biabia> this one drive works, burns and reads. the other one ejects and the light comes on but it wont read or burn. i should unplug the cord inside and check the connection?
[06:31] <virtual> flashplugin-nonfree is already the newest version.
[06:31] <mage__> but did it actually install?
[06:32]  * syc_ brb..
[06:32] <balleyne> jesse: location can be a filename or a folder, and it can be a relative or absolute path.. if you've got the command right, permissions could be the issue
[06:32] <balleyne> jesse: do you get an error message?
[06:32] <IcemanV9> jesse: you might rename the file instead of move
[06:32] <jesse> yes i get error message
[06:32] <IcemanV9> s/might/might have
[06:32] <jesse> like the command is not right
[06:32] <virtual> alt-f2 is a bit awkward to press, any chance of changing it to f2? :P
[06:32] <balleyne> jesse: give us an example of a specific command you're trying then maybe?
[06:33] <jahisthebalance> yeah that didn't work guys
[06:33] <jesse> i move a file from like say inside documents to a folder but when i open the folder i cant seem to get the file to move back
[06:33] <MasterShrek> virtual: should be something in, system > preferences, maybe keyboard shortcuts or something
[06:33] <jesse> see what im saying
[06:34] <balleyne> jahisthebalance: blah... so, running 'nm-applet' from the command line doesn't do anything?
[06:34] <docgnome> jesse: it's becoming slightly clearer
[06:34] <xwin> I'm newbie Ubuntu user, long time Linux user (Red Hat, Fedora).  Ubuntu doesn't support WPA-PSK. Everytime I tried WLAN with WPA-PSK authentication, Ubuntu crases.
[06:34] <wers> what interface fonts can you recommend? i want something other than sans :D
[06:34] <virtual> thanks MasterShrek!
[06:34] <jahisthebalance> no, I mean its obviously working
[06:34] <wers> i'm using a typical clearlooks-like look and feel
[06:34] <MasterShrek> np virtual
[06:35] <docgnome> jesse: so you can move files from one directory to another one, but you can't move it back?
[06:35] <virtual> trying rebooting to see if firefox recognizes it then
[06:35] <wers> what fonts can be fit for that? :)
[06:35] <jahisthebalance> I just don't have the selector thing anymore
[06:35] <jesse> exactly
[06:35] <docgnome> jesse: how are you moving them? Draggint them with gnome (or whatever) or using the command line?
[06:35] <ckin2001> jahisthebalance, sudo nm-applet & ?
[06:35] <MasterShrek> xwin: sudo apt-get install wpa_supplicant ?  i dunno if it comes by default or not
[06:36] <balleyne> jahisthebalance: right.. I had that problem a while back, I was almost positive that running nm-applet brought the applet back (ie. the selector)
[06:36] <jesse> im trying to learn the terminal and commands as ive researched as much as i can the commands and such i can move the files using the desktop but the fun so im told is in the terminal
[06:36] <docgnome> jesse: which did you use to move these files?
[06:36] <xwin> MasterShrek, thanks, will try that.
[06:36] <docgnome> jesse: if it was the command line, please tell us exactly what you typed to move them.
[06:36] <jesse> mv -v Filename Location
[06:37] <jahisthebalance> yeah I'm trying some variations on that
[06:37] <xwin> MasterShrek, is that wpa_supplicant?  not wpa-supplicant ?
[06:37] <balleyne> jesse: exactly, like, with a specific example and filenames
[06:37] <MasterShrek> im pretty sure its an underscore
[06:37] <MasterShrek> !info wpa_supplicant
[06:37] <ubotu> Package wpa_supplicant does not exist in gutsy
[06:37] <docgnome> jesse:  and what are you typing to try and move them back?
[06:37] <MasterShrek> hmm
[06:37] <jesse> mv -v picture1.jpg Pictures
[06:37] <mage__> xwin: tab completion?
[06:37] <jahisthebalance> but nothing...
[06:37] <docgnome> jesse:  and what exactly does it say when you do that?
[06:37] <mage__>  apt-get install wpasupplicant
[06:38] <jesse> trying to move them back to documents from My Pictures
[06:38] <mage__> (I'm on gutsama)
[06:38] <jesse> and the commands arent working the same i get error message
[06:38] <davidthedrake> Does anyone have a good guide on how to get Freespace 2 up and running well with Gutsy?
[06:38] <docgnome> jesse: so you moved them into My Pictures and you want to move them to Documents?
[06:39] <slava_> hi
[06:39] <mnemonica> Hey, anyone use emulators for old gba games?
[06:39] <balleyne> jesse: what is the exact error message you are getting?
[06:39] <jahisthebalance> no other ideas on how to get the wifi spot selector back on the top panel?
[06:39] <docgnome> jesse: show me exactly what you type to move them back and exactly the erros message you get.
[06:39] <jesse> yes so i cd Pictures and tryed to mv -v picture.png Documents and it did not work
[06:39] <xwin> it ways 'wpasuplicant is already the newest version.
[06:39] <docgnome> jesse: ah.
[06:40] <jesse> am i doing something wrong ?
[06:40] <docgnome> jesse: and the Pictures folder is inside Documents?
[06:40] <jesse> was i not suppose to change directory
[06:40] <balleyne> jesse: you can change directory
[06:40] <docgnome> jesse: Yeah. It is looking for Documents within the Pictures directory.
[06:40] <balleyne> jesse: but then you need to change the path
[06:40] <jahisthebalance> it becomes a little aggravating how easy it is to put a fish there
[06:40] <mnemonica> repeat: Hey, anyone use emulators for old gba games?
[06:40] <jon_> I am having problems with video playback in vlc any ideas?
[06:40] <mage__> I dont, try visualboyadvance
[06:41] <jesse> was inside i moved it from documents to pictures which pictures folder was in documents and i just cant seem to pull it back out of pictures and put it back in documents
[06:41] <mnemonica> I'm having issues getting sound to work correctly in a few of the ones I'm trying.
[06:41] <balleyne> jesse: so, you might have to say ../Document (.. means parent directory), or /home/jesse/Documents or something, if you don't put a path it looks for it in your current directory
[06:41] <docgnome> jesse: so (if I understand correctly) what you want to type is mv -v picture.png ../