[00:02] <ubuntu_> http://pastebin.com/d60d5e3f5 ... i want to measure the speed of a file transfer from nas > pc regarding speed/"parallelism" (of course it is sequencial)
[00:04] <ubuntu_> i need that both commands in line 76 get in background
[00:05] <dr_willis> !iso
[00:29] <user16> hey pps...having a problem that's a known bug (cdrecord not having write permissions on /dev/scd1)...however, any changes I make to items in the /dev tree don't survive a reboot...does anyone know a permanent fix for this?
[00:32] <user16> hey pps...having a problem that's a known bug (cdrecord not having write permissions on /dev/scd1)...however, any changes I make to items in the /dev tree don't survive a reboot...does anyone know a permanent fix for this?
[00:37] <marc> I removed networkmanager from rc.d startup...how do I put it back? :-/
[00:38] <marc> in other words, how do I undo "sudo update-rc.d NetworkManager remove"?
[00:38] <linuxmce> I need help installing a driver. anyone with some spare time?
[00:38] <marc> I tried "sudo update-rc.d NetworManager add" but it didn't like that :)
[00:57] <josh-l> hey all, how can I make my regular kubuntu bootsplash a higher resolution?
[00:58] <josh-l> i'm looking in my menu.lst
[01:00] <melod> Hey, new to Kubuntu and IRC in general. Wanted to find a chat about movies... how do I do that?
[01:00] <sivik> !nvidia
[01:00] <josh-l> nothing to do with kubuntu sorry...
[01:01] <sivik> anyone install nvidia and kde with 173 or 177
[01:04] <evertjuuh> haha lol
[01:05] <user16> hey pps...having a problem that's a known bug (cdrecord not having write permissions on /dev/scd1)...however, any changes I make to items in the /dev tree don't survive a reboot...does anyone know a permanent fix for this?
[01:05] <user16> simply chmodding it doesn't help...only temporary fix
[01:12] <user16> hey pps...having a problem that's a known bug (cdrecord not having write permissions on /dev/scd1)...however, any changes I make to items in the /dev tree don't survive a reboot...does anyone know a permanent fix for this?
[01:14] <dr_willis> user16:  it may be the user needs to bne in the proper group
[01:15] <dr_willis>  ./dev/ is built 'on the fly' thats why changes dont stick. as a Dirty work around. You could pur the command to 'fix' it in /etc/rc.local
[01:15] <dr_willis> and err.. cdrecord wouldent be writing to /dev/sdc1   it would be /dev/sdc
[01:17] <user16> dr_willis: the user is in the proper group (cdrom) but cdrecrod and wodim (simlink are both owned by root:root
[01:18] <user16> should cdrecord in /usr/bin be owned by root:cdrom?
[01:19] <dr_willis> thats the owner of the binary.. it wouldent make much sence for them to be owned that way i think
[01:19] <user16> do changes in the usr/bin directory stick?
[01:19] <user16> and I don't know what the 'fix' is to put it into /etc/rc.local :-)
[01:20] <dr_willis> You just said you did some command to change the permissions in /dev/
[01:20] <user16> yes...put that same one into rc.local? chmodding the device to 777?
[01:21] <dr_willis> yes.....
[01:21] <dr_willis> not a good fix.. but a fix i guess
[01:21] <dr_willis> be sure you get the right device
[01:21] <user16> ok...it's wierd that this is a recurrent problem on some of my systems, but not on all
[01:22] <dr_willis> Im not in ubuntu at the moment so cant test. ive never had any issues with it however
[01:23] <user16> i've probably put hardy on about a dozen systems now, and issues with perms on optical drives are recurrent, right after initial installation
[01:23] <dr_willis> You are installing from cd, not from a usb-thummbdrive?
[01:24] <user16> but not on every system...can't seem to be able to determine when it'll come up...i'm installing from the mini.iso usually
[01:24] <dr_willis> initial user cant burn either eh? or all users? or just some users?
[01:25] <user16> initial user can't burn, right from the get-go...that initial user always has sudo priviledges and is usually the only user
[01:26] <dr_willis> why are you even using the mini.iso?
[01:26] <user16> and as I said, this and similar probs with optical drives occur on many systems, but not all...maybe 50% of systems after clean install
[01:28] <user16> i like the mini.iso because it's faster than alternate or livecd install cds...always keep putting off getting my pxe install server configured
[01:28] <dr_willis> i alweays thougjht ubuntu set up a /dev/dvd or /dev/cdrom /dev/dvdrw links to point to the real device..  could be the permissions on those are wrong.
[01:28] <dr_willis> I put the alternative cd on a bootable thumb drive.. makes it very snappy :)
[01:28] <dr_willis> of course all the updates take as long as the initial install.
[01:28] <user16> exactly...hence the mini.iso...don't have to do updates
[01:29] <dr_willis>  You just have to install everything to begin with.. over and over and over. :)
[01:29] <dr_willis> id say test out a normal install/dekstop and see if you can spot any differances
[01:29] <user16> because initial install is done with newest versions available
[01:30] <user16> or maybe get off my a*** and tackle the pxe install server again :(
[01:31] <dr_willis> i just set up a  apt-cach server and let all the rest of the pcs in the lan use that one
[01:32] <user16> yeah, but you're better at this kind of stuff than I :-) i'm doing so much other stuff (like marketing, <ugh>) i end up putting more advanced learning off
[01:33] <dr_willis> !find apt-proxy
[01:34] <user16> well, bot?
[01:34] <dr_willis> Im suprised you are even messing with the mini.iso :) see if the normal desktop works  where the mini method fails. and file a bug if ya you can prove its a differance.
[01:34] <dr_willis> !info apt-proxy
[01:34] <dr_willis> of coruse is thios worth the effort for a small lan. :)
[01:35] <user16> i have a small lan, but I'm often doing a build a week...then giving the pc away
[01:36] <user16> got word of another distribution channel approval on friday, will try to get still another distribution channel tomorrow
[01:40] <user16> dr_willis: thanks, looking at the howto now...will consider it as a substitution for that pxe install server with all it's many parts...(hate building dhcp servers!)
[01:40] <dr_willis> if they are identical machines.. you can clone them in other ways
[01:42] <user16> they're never identical machines...hardware depends on the donations i get
[01:45] <user16> and canonical still needs to fix some of their official documentation...these days they're saying vsftpd is so superior over other ftp server programs...but only half the steps are there, so, not surprisingly,  following the howto doesn't work
[01:46] <user16> i can't believe they've let the documentation bug in the apache howto survive all these years :(
[01:47] <user16> oh well...gonna reboot to see if this rc.local edit fixes the issue
[01:48] <user16> later
[02:11] <Kasm279> oh, cheese
[02:12] <faydriss> i can not call up my 500g ext3 drive
[02:13] <Kasm279> i cant enable my second video output or otherwise change any of the display settings
[02:30] <thebe> How is it possible to make my pc shutdown in certain time in Kubuntu system
[02:42] <LjL> !info ktimer | thebe
[02:54] <sivik> anyone install nvidia drivers in kubuntu?
[03:09] <shadowkllr> in kubuntu w/ kde 4, how do you set a static ip address?
[03:16] <demi> Is there a good program to unzip .rar files for linux?
[03:18] <Dragnslcr> !rar
[03:20] <shadowkllr> how do i set my ip address to be static within my network?
[03:25] <doleyb> shadowkllr: /etc/network/interfaces, or just ifconfig
[04:02] <KDesk> hi
[04:03] <jpw> hi
[04:04] <KDesk> I have installed compiz, and now I will to auto start it every time. What should I do in KDE? Add it in System Settings in Autostart? Which command?
[04:04] <beatzz> hey guys
[04:04] <beatzz> im running into trouble on the laptop
[04:05] <beatzz> I did the install, but LILO is wasent able to be configured correctly
[04:05] <beatzz> when I booted again, grub (my previous bootloader
[04:05] <beatzz> tryed to take over and spits out en error
[04:26] <[Tequila]> whats the best operating system emulator other than vmware I can run on ubuntu
[04:28] <brunoqc> you can look at KVM and VirtualBox
[04:28] <[Tequila]> ty
[05:15] <ivan__> is compiz-fusion the same as compiz-kde
[05:16] <ivan__> if i install compiz-kde will it give me a 3d desktop
[05:17] <ivan__> hello all
[05:19] <snare1> hello
[05:19] <ivan__> if i install compiz-kde will it give me a 3d desktop
[05:19] <ivan__> similar to beryl
[05:19] <ivan__> pz help
[05:21] <snare1> no speak english
[05:22] <josh-l> anyone figure out a fix for firefox tabs using kde4 sytle?
[05:24] <ivan__> how to install beryl on jaunty
[05:25] <snare1> good bye
[05:28] <josh-l> what is the alternative to kcm-gtk ?
[05:28] <narothepharoh> how do i run themes on xfce desktop?
[05:29] <josh-l> why dont you ask in the appropriate channel
[05:30] <narothepharoh> which channel would that be?
[05:31] <josh-l> narothepharoh: probably #xfce or #xubuntu
[05:48] <xevious> i installed kubuntu but i can't figure out how to tell it to customize my myspace. help!!!
[05:49] <cerecitas> xevious myspace like from microsoft?
[05:49] <xevious> myspace like from the internet
[05:50] <cerecitas> i don't get what you want to do... dunno if i need more coffee but what you want to customize?
[05:50] <xevious> i want cool colors on my profile
[05:51] <cerecitas> i am not really sure that kubuntu can customize my space, you can customize the browser...but myspace i think it goes separately
[05:51] <xevious> oh. :( rofl
[05:51] <cerecitas> not sure anyway
[05:52] <xevious> what about my facebook?
[05:53] <cerecitas> i think the same, i really do not think you can customize websites... the options myspace and facebook give to you should not be affected by kubuntu... yet i might very well be wrong
[05:53] <xevious> and how do i integrate webdav and ical integration with apache, providing my users with seamless iCal integration?
[05:54] <cerecitas> that i have no idea
[05:54] <Slartibartfast> xevious: maybe you can do a google search instead of asking people to do it for you
[05:54] <xevious> no i'll give you my root password and you can telnet to my server
[05:54] <cerecitas> uffff
[05:54] <cerecitas> it's too early for this, honest.
[05:54] <Slartibartfast> yeah, right :-)
[05:55] <josh-l> i wish the firefox-qt was working better
[05:55] <xevious> g'night. sorry about being a pain in the arse
[05:56] <neron> how i can configure X
[05:56] <neron> ?
[05:58] <cerecitas> shower and worktime. have a nice day.
[05:58] <cerecitas> or night whatever.
[06:01] <Guest96880> yo
[07:12] <xavierg2003> I downloaded Miro and it works fine for linux. except that i can not use it. i can not download music videos. anyideas as to a solution?
[07:23] <mile> anybody knows why when I try to change to a tty (ctr+alt+f1 to f6), my screen just starts flashing? Do I have to change some monitor settings??
[07:34] <xp-killer> help im not seing my google bar and my icons for next and previeus on konqueror
[07:34] <xp-killer> browser
[07:34] <shahram> you can make them visibel by right click on blonk area on right side of your browser
[07:35] <xp-killer> help
[07:35] <xp-killer> help im not seing my google bar and my icons for next and previeus on konqueror
[07:36] <xt> hm, my .pcf-fonts stopped working in jaunty
[07:36] <shahram> XP did you do my instraction?
[07:36] <xp-killer> Tm_T: how can i put back my google bar on my browser konqueror
[07:41] <xp-killer> how can i put back my google bar on my browser konqueror and my icons next previous?
[07:54] <neron> Hi all
[07:54] <neron> I'm need help
[07:54] <neron> How i can install Bin NVIDIA Drivers
[07:54] <neron> and extract package
[07:55] <neron> because i'm need intsall drivers where hasn't internet
[07:57] <Slartibartfast> neron: to run the bin installation file => extract and install ... do "sh nividia-binfile.bin"
[07:57] <neron> I have a deb package
[07:58] <Slartibartfast> neron: Then run dpkg -i nvidia-debpackage.deb
[07:58] <neron> Thats all?
[07:58] <neron> no config in xorg
[07:58] <neron> and etc?
[07:59] <Slartibartfast> mmm not sure if the postinstall scripts take care of that ......
[07:59] <Slartibartfast> otherwise check after install if "Driver      "nividia" " is in the device section of xorg.conf
[07:59] <Slartibartfast> nvidia *
[08:01] <Slartibartfast> neron: but when i install nvidia drivers for Xorg there are more then one package which get installed
[08:05] <neron> http://paste.ubuntu.com/135891/
[08:05] <neron> see my xorg.conf
[08:05] <neron> i don;t understand why he generating there
[08:11] <ka0z> hey im having trouble installing kubuntu, i have a averatec 6200 laptop and when i try to install it starts displaying code that says something like that it freezes
[08:11] <ka0z> i have a picture of wut it does
[08:12] <neron> And i can't change resolution
[08:13] <ka0z> can anyone help?
[08:13] <vmt1> hello all :) someone knows how much meters I can use with cat6?
[08:15] <ka0z> anyone around?
[08:20] <ka0z> guess no one is alive
[08:21] <vmt1> ka0z: dexconf?
[08:28] <ka0z> vmt1: it loads the install screen ask all but then when i tell it to install besides windows (dual boot) it starts to install and says some code like ata0 or something and just keeps doing that over and over again
[08:28] <ka0z> i can send ya a pic of it
[08:32] <vmt1> Imthinking then you have a driver problem
[09:01] <mile> how do I disable the login manager?? I want to have the console login by default...
[09:20] <adred> how to import key in kubuntu jaunty?kpackagekit can't see the the key i saved in my home directory..
[09:25] <stdin> adred: it'd use the apt keys, use "sudo apt-key add <filename>"
[09:42] <adred> stdin, thanks
[10:22] <Haza> Folks. Kubuntu 8.10, KDE 4.2. How do i change what version of JVM my machine uses?
[10:23] <stdin> Haza: "sudo update-java-alternatives -s <name>"
[10:23] <stdin> use update-java-alternatives -l too see the available runtimes
[10:25] <Haza> stdin: Perfect thank you
[10:28] <Haza> stdin: It worked thank you. For some reason my Runtime was set to IcedTea6 ?
[10:28] <Haza> (My Java GUI's looked terrible)
[10:28] <stdin> maybe it sets itself to default when installed
[10:29] <Haza> stdin: I don't remember installing it
[10:31] <buntfalke> hi
[10:31] <buntfalke> how do i get the normal view in kcontrol instead of the unusable osx-ripoff?
[10:31] <stdin> if you mean system settings, that's not the same application
[10:32] <stdin> and the answer is "you can't, it's not the same application"
[10:44] <buntfalke> stdin: thanks, explains quite a bit then.
[11:06] <justinnfx> Can anyone help I just got done Installing Kubuntu and grub did not install I still have the xp/vista boot mean
[11:07] <userone> hello, is there some sort of network monitor for kde? something that shows open network connection and http traffic details
[11:07] <larsaam> justinnfx: you should be able to install just grub with the livecd, a little tricky but...
[11:07] <userone> something like live http headers firefox plugin but system wide
[11:07] <justinnfx> hmm im a noob, how tricky
[11:07] <larsaam> userone: netstat?
[11:08] <amgarching> I was again locked out from firefox after a crash. Some of the sqlite databases were left locked (/home is an NFS filesystem). After making a copy of those and renaming back to original locks should have gone. And indded browser history and back button work again. However the google toolbar doesnt: no history neither any search result, just ignoring me. What elese could it be?
[11:08] <larsaam> justinnfx: not sure if I remember, but should be to go trough the normal install procedure, but no reinstall,
[11:08] <larsaam> justinnfx: maybe investigate why the grub was not installed?
[11:08] <userone> isnt netstat a command?
[11:09] <larsaam> justinnfx: or just http://www.vlug.org/pipermail/discuss/2008-March/024670.html
[11:10] <justinnfx> larsaam:  I have no idea, it installed great, the partions show up, and under computer it show it installed too
[11:11] <userone> if you have 2 disks maybe it was installed to the wrong disk
[11:12] <justinnfx> no
[11:12] <justinnfx> I have 3 disk
[11:12] <justinnfx> and each disk has it own os
[11:12] <beardbar> I am having issues automouting an extra hard drive that contains my music files. im trying to understand fstab but my hd just doesnt seem to mount. anyone point me to a step by step guide perhaps I am missing a step.
[11:12] <justinnfx> it didn't wipe out any of my other os so,,,
[11:13] <userone> If you didnt install it to the mbr of the disk you are booting from I think you wont see it then
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> justinnfx: dont ask in both channels, you look silly
[11:14] <justinnfx> I installed it across the entire disk
[11:15] <justinnfx> lol
[11:15] <justinnfx> my bad
[11:16] <userone> I mean, you have windows on disk 1 and you installed linux on disk 2, if you install grub to disk 2's mbr and you boot from disk 1 you will see windows boot manager
[11:22] <Nortt> Need config HArd disk boot prority in BIOS
[11:23] <Nortt> *priroity
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> justinnfx: install grub on one of the disks then add entrys to boot the other OSes
[11:35] <rehman> hi every one.
[11:35] <rehman> please help, konqueror is not opening the page.
[11:36] <userone> I'm looking for some kind of network monitor that displays http traffic with urls visited and such, anyone knows?
[11:36] <dr_willis> ntop can do that.
[11:36] <dr_willis> but its proberly overkill for your needs.
[11:37] <rehman> please help me on konqueror
[11:38] <userone> thanks I'll check it
[11:38] <victim> rehman: will konqueror open http://www.kubuntu.org/  ?
[11:39] <mefisto__> rehman: what page?
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> rehman: what page can't it open?
[11:42] <bonez46> how does one provide maintenance on a hard drive with kbuntu, graphically? I cant' find a partitioner....or anything to let me reformat a hard drive
[11:43] <bazhang> !info qtparted
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> bonez46: you can use fsck on unmounted drives and partitions
[11:45] <rehman> Action sory
[11:45] <rehman> action. i mean it does not browse
[11:48] <mefisto__> rehman: do other browsers work?
[11:49] <bonez46> I have kbuntu installed.. what I really would prefer is installling just plain ubuntu.. with gnome.. can I install it next to kbuntu.. and have it boot instead of kbuntu?
[11:50] <mefisto__> bonez46: yes. install ubuntu-desktop
[11:50] <mefisto__> bonez46: you can choose which to log in to at the login screen
[11:54] <bonez46> does kbuntu have a torrent client included, and if so, what's it name?
[11:54] <mefisto__> ktorrent
[11:55] <bonez46> mefisto__: ok, next question. where's a launcher? to lauch ktorrent?
[11:56] <mefisto__> bonez46: should be in the menu, in the "internet" submenu. or alt-F2 and type ktorrent
[11:57] <bonez46> mefisto__: thanks.. I appreciate the tips..
[11:58] <userone> is there some package that provides better firefox integration? I only see ubufox in adept, is it for kubuntu too?
[11:58] <mefisto__> bonez46: one thing you should know about having both kde and gnome installed: the menus in both desktops will be kind of cluttered with apps from both. you might see some things in your menu without icons
[11:58] <Dillizar> i dont understand  kubuntu 8.10, kde4 dosnt have desktop but kubuntu 8.10 have 2?
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> Dillizar: how do you mean by "doesnt have desktop"
[12:00] <userone> I tried to install ubuntu desktop and it didnt end up so good, also I got 2 network manager applets and none worked
[12:01] <Dillizar> ActionParsnip well desktop in kde4.1 its just a widget
[12:01] <mefisto__> Dillizar: you are talking about the folder /home/username/Desktop ?
[12:02] <Dillizar> yes
[12:03] <mefisto__> Dillizar: if you want the Desktop folder to appear on the desktop as it did in kde 3, you can upgrade to kde 4.2 and switch the desktop to "folder view" mode
[12:08] <Dillizar> mefisto__ i point was that 4.1 doesnt have desktop but yet you can choose from two
[12:08] <Dillizar> :D
[12:10] <mefisto__> Dillizar: choose from two? two what? two desktops?
[12:10] <bonez46> mefisto__: one more question.. how do I bring up the menu you mentioned before, not with alt-f2, but the other one
[12:11] <bonez46> I installed ubuntu desktop, but it halted before it finished updating grub..
[12:11] <mefisto__> bonez46: the default menu shortcut is alt-F1 I believe. or just click the menu button
[12:12] <Dillizar> yes
[12:13] <bonez46> ok, I see the K menu button.. but there  was another I accessed accidentally.. and it listed ktorrent and others.. but now I can't find it again, and not at alt-f1 either..
[12:13] <mefisto__> bonez46: did you do the install in commandline?
[12:15] <mefisto__> bonez46: you have another menu? is it lancelot? or the old style Kmenu?
[12:15] <bonez46> hmmm not sure.
[12:16] <mefisto__> Dillizar: I don't know what you mean. what 2 desktops can you choose?
[12:16] <bonez46> as for the install of ubuntu-desktop. I booted with an 8.10 ubuntu disk. ran install.. it got to a screen near the end.. and just froze with blank screen and cursor. and that was it..
[12:17] <mefisto__> bonez46: wait, I thought you already had kubuntu installed
[12:17] <bonez46> in 30" .. I have downloaded 20 mb of a 1.6 gb .iso file..
[12:17] <bonez46> I have kbuntu installed.
[12:18] <bonez46> but I think I am more a gnome type. just seems an easier interface for me.. so I wnat to installll it instead of kbuntu..
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> bonez46: you can just run: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and you can switch over
[12:18] <bonez46> ok..
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> bonez46: you dont have to reinstall the whole OS just for a different DE
[12:19] <mefisto__> bonez46: yes, what ActionParsnip said. and if you want to remove kde completely, look here: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[12:19] <dr_willis> thats windows thinking.. :)
[12:19] <dr_willis> lol
[12:19] <bonez46> ok.. I'll launch that and have it run while I am at work today...
[12:20] <dr_willis> i alway install gnome and kde.. just too many jhandy apps in both to limit myself
[12:21] <mefisto__> dr_willis: but which do you log into? both?
[12:22] <dr_willis> i rarely use kde desktop.. just kde apps
[12:27] <Nortt> HElp!
[12:28] <Nortt> why when i choose update any KDE
[12:28] <Nortt> package
[12:28] <Nortt> adept want delete another
[12:29] <ghostcube> Nortt: can u pls post the message to pastie,org ?
[12:29] <ghostcube> pastie.org
[12:30] <Nortt> I solved it
[12:30] <Nortt> update repo
[12:34] <dr_willis> aHeh - FAQ there :)
[12:41] <sudla> ugh
[12:42] <hilx> -> #caveman
[12:48] <justinnfx> I am installing kubuntu for the first time, I deleted the partion under manual because I want to make it a certian size, but now it asking me for a moint point, what should I use?
[13:04] <adred> Hi, my system always reverts to 800x600 resolution each time i log in. Is this expected for alpha releases? will this be fixed on the next release?
[13:04] <jussi01> Hei all!! is there a nice meta package that gives me a whole load of fonts?
[13:04] <mefisto__> !jaunty | adred
[13:17] <jimmy51_> is digikam included by default in 8.04?
[13:18] <justinnfx> !training
[13:18] <justinnfx> !FUCK ME IN THE ASS
[13:18] <jimmy51_> is digikam included by default in 8.04?
[13:19] <justinnfx> Oohh the bot is cummin on to me
[13:19] <justinnfx> I love it when you talk dirty to me!
[13:19] <bazhang> !ops | justinnfx
[13:21] <jimmy51_> !digikam
[13:21] <jimmy51_> !digicam
[13:21] <bazhang> !info digikam
[13:21] <buntfalke> jussi01: Did you kick him? My client wrote some strange message, and i wonder wether that was a kick or something else new to me
[13:22] <jussi01> buntfalke: itwas a remove and ban.
[13:23] <jussi01> !modes
[13:23] <jimmy51_> thanks bazhang.  is it installed by default in 8.04?
[13:23] <buntfalke> "remove". i see, got to read up on that :-)
[13:23] <bazhang> !info digikam hardy
[13:23] <jimmy51_> ah
[13:23] <bazhang> jimmy51_, optional :)
[13:24] <jimmy51_> that explains why my wife can't find it.  assuming "sudo apt-get install digikam" will install, what's the easiest way to IM a wife to run that command?  anything with "terminal window" will generate a negative reaction :)
[13:24] <jimmy51_> is there a "windows + r" for run dialog or something similar?
[13:25] <bazhang> how about adept package manager?
[13:26] <jimmy51_> doh
[13:26] <jimmy51_> scared her off
[13:26] <jimmy51_> i'll be installing it when i get home :)
[13:26] <mefisto__> jimmy51_: alt-F2
[13:26] <bazhang> :)
[13:27] <jimmy51_> too late :)  ALT F2 is good to know though
[13:27] <jimmy51_> does it work well with sudo?
[13:27] <mefisto__> jimmy51_: but if you're thinking about doing an apt-get install that way, I don't think it will work
[13:27] <bazhang> kdesudo
[13:27] <bazhang> for graphical apps
[13:28] <jimmy51_> sweet
[13:32] <easy_> hola
[13:40] <BluesKaj> 'Morning
[13:41] <bazhang> hi
[13:42] <cinex> I'm having a slight problem. I have ubuntu installed on a usbdisk. when I boot from it I get a stage.15 read error. it works perfectly in qemu though.
[13:42] <cinex> in the grub console "find /vmlinuz" works but kernel /vmlinuz is not found.
[13:43] <CostaRicanQuaker>  I don't know much about downloading scripts at all but I see on this page http://arun.wordpress.com/2007/01/29/download-youtube-videos-the-linux-way/ that option three is the safest way to do this, so I was hoping someone would be able to help me do this
[13:45] <bazhang> CostaRicanQuaker, dl youtube videos?
[13:45] <michele_> ciao
[13:45] <michele_> !list
[13:45] <bazhang> !it | michele_
[13:46] <CostaRicanQuaker> bazhang, yes, a friend of mine has a channel, he's from canada he doesn't speak spanish, i want ot show his videos (with his permision of course) at the peace center where i work at and i want to subtitle them
[13:46] <CostaRicanQuaker> but for that i need to be able to dl them
[13:46] <CostaRicanQuaker> i asked him and he said htere are programs that enable you to dl vids from youtube
[13:46] <bazhang> CostaRicanQuaker, youtube-dl -t url
[13:46] <bazhang> !info youtube-dl
[13:46] <CostaRicanQuaker> bazhang, do i type that into the konsole?
[13:47] <mefisto__> CostaRicanQuaker: there are firefox extensions that make downloading youtube videos easy too
[13:47] <bazhang> CostaRicanQuaker, url needs to be replaced with url
[13:47] <CostaRicanQuaker> sudo apt-get install youtube-dl ?
[13:47] <bazhang> yes
[13:47] <bazhang> CostaRicanQuaker, miro also dl's youtube video
[13:48] <CostaRicanQuaker> bazhang, it seems like i did it now what do i do?
[13:48] <LeeJunFan> Using Amarok2, I have selected random tracks during playback, but it keeps going sequential. The random menu item is selected, but it's greyed as if not available.
[13:48] <CostaRicanQuaker> what do i do when i want to download a video from youtube?
[13:48] <CostaRicanQuaker> and how do i know where it will be saved, namely what fodler
[13:48] <bazhang> CostaRicanQuaker, to your home folder
[13:49] <CostaRicanQuaker> bazhang, and what do i do to dl a video?
[13:49] <CostaRicanQuaker> this one for example http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbxZhx2eENo&feature=channel_page
[13:49] <bazhang> CostaRicanQuaker, use konsole
[13:49] <CostaRicanQuaker> how though'
[13:49] <CostaRicanQuaker> what command do i enter?
[13:50] <bazhang> youtube-dl -t (url of vid you want)
[13:50] <mefisto__> CostaRicanQuaker: man youtube-dl   to see all the options, usage, etc
[13:50] <CostaRicanQuaker> what format will it download in?
[13:50] <CostaRicanQuaker> avi mpeg?
[13:50] <bazhang> flv
[13:51] <CostaRicanQuaker> bazhang, can i switch flv to avi or mpeg?
[13:51] <bazhang> CostaRicanQuaker, not much point as it will degrade it to the point of being unwatchable
[13:51] <CostaRicanQuaker> will flv play on a windows computer? that's all they have at the peace center
[13:52] <bazhang> yes
[13:52] <CostaRicanQuaker> what about ffmpeg -i old-file.flv new-file.mpg ?¿
[13:52] <KawaiiGourry666> Hi everyone. If someone is not too busy, I was hoping to get help with Skype capturing my microphone. I've installed a SB Audigy soundcard, since I fried my onboard sound card a couple of months ago. I can capture audio in Audacity but getting no luck with Skype. I've done some searching but just feel like I'm running into dead ends.
[13:52] <mefisto__> bazhang: I convert flv to avi all the time and they are quite watchable.
[13:53] <bazhang> mefisto__, then you are less picky than I :)
[13:53] <CostaRicanQuaker> mefisto__, what about ffmpeg -i old-file.flv new-file.mpg ? is it better to convert to avi or to mpeg?
[13:54] <mefisto__> CostaRicanQuaker: I think it depends on the original flv and how that is encoded
[13:55] <mefisto__> CostaRicanQuaker: look at youtube-dl man page. there is a "format" option (but I don't know how it works or how well it works)
[13:55] <CostaRicanQuaker> thanks
[13:55] <bazhang> np
[13:55] <CostaRicanQuaker> anyone know a good subtitling app
[13:55] <CostaRicanQuaker> i am getting gnome subtitles
[13:57] <schalala> !de
[13:58] <CostaRicanQuaker> bazhang,  what's this changing the url to pwntube.com thing all about
[14:14] <jimmy51_> !intrepid
[14:14] <jimmy51_> !hardy
[14:14] <jimmy51_> !Jaunty
[14:50] <CostaRicanQuaker> help, how can i get libmono-i18n2.0-cil package installed?
[14:50] <CostaRicanQuaker> from the konsole
[14:50] <ghostcube> is this the package name from ubuntu or any howto ?
[14:51] <SlimeyPete> CostaRicanQuaker: sudo apt-get install libmono-i18n2.0-cil
[15:05] <arfee> ok people, I'm going to ask a rediculous question but Ubuntu people are the best, anyone got any idea where i can get help with a mathematical 'excel' problem...openoffice people wont help
[15:13] <slow-motion> hi
[15:16] <compilerwriter> Ladies and gents I had an issue with plasma getting bungled some way or another and the easiest way to solve it was to just dust my rc file and let a new one get automatically generated.  Anyhow I now have some automatic setting that locks the machine when I am inactive.  Nice for security I know, but this my personal box that is kept locked in my apartment and I would rather not have the hassle.  Do I need to edit the rc file
[15:16] <compilerwriter> or is there a setting somewhere in system-> that can be adjusted?  I have yet to find the correct thing.
[15:29] <smookiLinux> hi
[15:31] <cinex> hi smookiLinux
[15:31] <compilerwriter> hello smookilinux
[15:33] <smookiLinux> I can't do /slap command, why ?
[15:33] <smookiLinux> :D
[15:33] <smookiLinux> I've just installed kubuntu
[15:33] <smookiLinux> witch is really really nice
[15:33] <cinex> /describe me slaps <nick>
[15:34] <cinex> no
[15:34] <dino__> how do install java
[15:34] <cinex> /describe slaps <nick>
[15:35] <tomsdale> dino__: try sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre   - That works for me to get my eclipse program working
[15:38] <smookiLinux> the /describe command says unknow command as result
[15:41] <cinex> oh
[15:41]  * cinex laughs
[15:42] <cinex> its
[15:42] <cinex> /me message
[15:43] <cinex> http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/konvi-cmds.html
[15:43] <kwerty123> hi
[15:44] <cinex> hi
[15:51] <cuznt> i can not access my 500g ext3 hard drive
[15:51] <cuznt> 4.1.2 32 bit
[15:51] <cinex> is it mounted?
[15:52] <cuznt> yes
[15:52] <cinex> can u access it as root?
[15:52] <cuznt> /media/comby
[15:52] <cuznt> i want to use it to store my music files and have it always accessable
[15:52] <cinex> sudo touch /media/comboy/test; ls -l /media/comby/test
[15:53] <cinex> sudo touch /media/comby/test; ls -l /media/comby/test
[15:54] <cuznt> touch: setting times of `/media/comboy/': No such file or directory
[15:54] <cuznt> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2009-03-23 11:53 /media/comby/te
[15:54] <cinex> u need to change the permissions to allow your user to access the directory
[15:55] <cinex> or you can change the group or just make it world read/writeable
[15:55] <cuznt> by chmod correct?
[15:55] <cinex> ya, or whocn / chgrp
[15:55] <cinex> chown
[15:55] <cuznt> i did chmod and after rebooting it is gone
[15:56] <cinex> sudo chmod cuznt /media/comby
[15:56] <cuznt> but still i can not put any files into it *permission denied
[15:56] <cinex> maybe, the /media directory needs modifying too
[15:57] <p-f_> note to whoever created the default cursors: when something is round and rotating around a centre, people tend to expect that centre to be the main pointing area, not the top left [invisible] corner
[15:59] <kavurt> how to mount an ext4 partition?
[15:59] <cuznt> faydriss@faydriss:/media/comby$ sudo chmod cuznt /media/comby
[15:59] <cuznt> chmod: invalid mode: `cuznt'
[15:59] <cinex> chown (i assumed czunt was your username)
[15:59] <cinex> chown changes the wnership
[15:59] <cinex> man chown
[15:59] <cuznt> ok
[16:01] <giuseppe_> !list
[16:01] <antonio_> ciao
[16:01] <cuznt> chown worked but still can not move files
[16:01] <cuznt> permission denied
[16:02] <cinex> ls -l /media
[16:02] <cinex> no
[16:02] <cinex> ls -ld /media
[16:02] <cinex> ls -ld /media/comby
[16:02] <cuznt> drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 2009-03-23 12:00 /media
[16:02] <cinex> try
[16:02] <cinex> chmod o=wxr /media
[16:03] <cuznt> sorry its drwxrwxr-x 4 faydriss root 4096 2009-03-23 11:53 /media/comby
[16:03] <cinex> what's /media
[16:04] <cuznt> thats what my dvd cd and hd are listed in
[16:04] <cuznt> be default
[16:04] <cinex> ya i know.
[16:04] <cinex> maybe you should mount it in /opt then you can butcher the file permissions lol
[16:04] <cuznt> i thought you asked
[16:04] <giuseppe__> !list
[16:04] <cuznt> i have no idea how to change the mount
[16:04] <cinex> its a permission problem anyway
[16:05] <cinex> are you mounting it by hand ?
[16:05]  * cuznt does not know about kubuntu|viagara
[16:05] <cuznt> by hand?
[16:05] <cinex> how is it mounting?
[16:05] <cuznt> it is installed in my pc
[16:05] <cinex> automatically without any  input from you ?
[16:05] <cinex> is it a usb drive?
[16:05] <cuznt> no
[16:05] <cuznt> not usb
[16:06] <cinex> did you configure it when you installed kubuntu ?
[16:06] <cuznt> it used to be, but i ripped it out and hard installed it
[16:06] <cuznt> no i did not
[16:06] <cinex> do u know the device name ?
[16:06] <cinex> ie /dev/sdb1
[16:06] <cuznt> because i have 2 kde's on one 150g hard drive and my 500g is for files
[16:07] <cuznt> how do i find that out?
[16:07] <cinex> df -h
[16:07] <compilerwriter> Where does one go to stop the machine from autolocking a session when one is inactive?
[16:07] <cinex> and look for the /media/comby entry
[16:07] <giuseppe_> xdcc send
[16:07] <cuznt> ty
[16:08] <cuznt> /dev/sdb1
[16:08] <cinex> k
[16:08] <cinex> sudo kate /etc/fstab
[16:08] <cinex> and try to find a line in there that lists that device
[16:09] <cuznt> nope
[16:09] <cuznt> nothing
[16:09] <cinex> ls -l /dev/disk/by-uud/
[16:09] <cinex> ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[16:09] <cinex> even
[16:09] <Dragnslcr> compilerwriter- System Settings -> Advanced -> Power Management, maybe
[16:10] <giuseppe_> !list
[16:10] <compilerwriter> thanks for the help dragnslcr
[16:11] <cuznt> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2009-03-23 11:23 912818f5-5884-4964-97d6-6c598fbfe17b -> ../../sdb1
[16:11] <cinex> search /etc/fstat for UUID=912818f5-5884-4964-97d6-6c598fbfe17b
[16:11] <cinex> cat /etc/fstab |grep 912818f5-5884-4964-97d6-6c598fbfe17b
[16:11] <cinex> will do it
[16:12] <giuseppe_> xdcc send
[16:12] <cuznt> cat /etc/fstab |grep 912818f5-5884-4964-97d6-6c598fbfe17b   is that a command or an entry
[16:12] <cinex> command
[16:13] <cinex> it will scan the file and check for the line
[16:13] <cuznt> is it supposed to do something?
[16:14] <cinex> not nessecarily
[16:14] <cinex> try
[16:14] <cuznt> ok it did nothing
[16:14] <cinex> cat /etc/fstab |grep /media/comby
[16:14] <cuznt> nada
[16:14] <cinex> k
[16:14] <cinex> do u still have /etc/fstab open ?
[16:14] <cuznt> yes i do
[16:15] <cinex> add the line:
[16:15] <cinex> /dev/sdb1 /opt/comby ext3 relatime 0 2
[16:15] <cuznt> relatime or realtime
[16:16] <cinex> relatime
[16:16] <cuznt> k ty
[16:16] <cuznt> now i should restart i assume?
[16:16] <cinex> no
[16:16] <cinex> god no
[16:16] <cinex> have you saved it ?
[16:17] <cuznt> yes
[16:17] <cinex> k
[16:17] <thegatetocemeter> can anyone help me to connect my webcam?
[16:17] <cinex> sudo chown <username> /opt
[16:17] <cinex> thegatetocemeter: sudo apt-get install camorama
[16:18] <cinex> see if that detects it
[16:18] <thegatetocemeter> Camorama is installed ... but it says no video device found ...
[16:18] <cinex> what camera is it ?
[16:18] <thegatetocemeter> Creative
[16:19] <thegatetocemeter> VF0230
[16:19] <cuznt> k
[16:19] <cinex> thegatetocemeter: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[16:19] <cinex> cuznt: mkdir -p /opt/comby
[16:19] <gabriel9> hi all
[16:20] <cuznt> si`
[16:20] <gabriel9> is there somebody who is using kubuntu 9.04 alpha 6?
[16:20] <palee> hi to everybody
[16:20] <cinex> cuznt: sudo umount /media/comby
[16:20] <gabriel9> i'm curius which kernel do you use?
[16:20] <cuznt> /media/comby: device is busy.
[16:21] <cinex> u need to close down any dolphins/konquerors in the directory and cd out in any konsoles
[16:21] <cuznt> close fstab?
[16:21] <cinex> sure
[16:21] <thegatetocemeter> hmmmm ... i tryed ... No such file or directory after i tryed to connect ...
[16:22] <cuznt> done
[16:22] <cinex> when u look at your konsole it will list the directory you in. make sure non of them are in /media/comby
[16:22] <cinex> @shazlop:/media$
[16:22] <cinex> something like that
[16:22] <cinex> @shazlop:/media/comby$
[16:22] <cuznt> i am /faydriss
[16:22] <cinex> are there any in there?
[16:23] <cuznt> faydriss@faydriss:~$
[16:23] <cinex> k
[16:23] <cinex> try it agian
[16:23] <cinex> sudo umount /media/comby
[16:23] <cuznt> umount: /media/comby: not found
[16:23] <cinex> k
[16:23] <cinex> sudo mount -a
[16:24] <cuznt> [mntent]: warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[16:24] <cinex> you could open it again and create a blank line at the bottom by pressing enter
[16:25] <gabriel_9> is there somebody who is using kubuntu 9.04 alpha 6?
[16:25] <gabriel_9> i'm curius which kernel do you use?
[16:25] <cinex> wb smookiLinux
[16:25] <smookiLinux> thanks :)
[16:26] <smookiLinux> I've just installed the flash player package but still no flash on konqueror, is there something special to active it ?
[16:26] <cuznt> k
[16:26] <cinex> smookiLinux: try firefox
[16:26] <cinex> cuznt: erm. sudo mount -a
[16:26] <cinex> again
[16:27] <cuznt> k
[16:27] <smookiLinux> cinex: I'd like to keep on konqueror as it uses webkit
[16:28] <giuseppe_> ciao
[16:28] <giuseppe_> !list
[16:28] <EagleScreen> smookiLinux you have to update the plugins in konqueror
[16:29] <giuseppe_> xdcc send
[16:29] <smookiLinux> but konqueror has no menu ???
[16:30] <cuznt> done twice
[16:31] <EagleScreen> Preferences -> Configure Konqueror -> Plugins -> Look for plugins, it will detect the new plugin and will begin to use it
[16:31] <Palee> does somebody have Winfast DTV1800H tuner card?
[16:32] <smookiLinux> EagleScreen: well I can't see Configure konqueror
[16:33] <EagleScreen> in Konqueror tools bars
[16:33] <EagleScreen> Preferences -> Konfigure Konqueror
[16:33] <cuznt> cobmy is gone
[16:33] <cuznt> comby rather
[16:35] <smookiLinux> ok thanks all I got it (the icon was missing by default)
[16:36] <EagleScreen> i mean this: http://imagebin.ca/view/9dRAsit.html
[16:36] <smookiLinux> cool
[16:37] <cuznt> cinex ??
[16:46] <smookiLinux> kde is great !!!
[16:52] <condominio> www.chacarabighouse
[16:53] <smookiLinux> condominio: does not work
[17:02] <cinex> cuznt: ?
[17:08] <shaqarlama> HI all
[17:10] <shaqarlama> xalxno aqxart\/
[17:11] <shaqarlama> gigaxar\/
[17:11] <ScorpKing> !hi | shaqarlama
[17:11] <shaqarlama> \/\/\/\/\/\/\/
[17:11] <kikimara> hi shaqarlama
[17:11] <Jampiter> Hi
[17:11] <ScorpKing> shaqarlama: and please stop that
[17:11] <shaqarlama> welcome u tukaia
[17:11] <shaqarlama> :D
[17:11] <shaqarlama> ok
[17:12] <shaqarlama> i'll be peacemaker
[17:12] <shaqarlama> :)
[17:12] <shaqarlama> i love kubuntu
[17:12] <kikimara> we love shaqarlama
[17:12] <Jampiter> I have a laptop, and I have plugged an external LCD monitor into it. No picture is showing, and it is not showing up in the monitors settings. How do I make it work?
[17:12] <cinex> Jampiter: what graphics driver are you using ?
[17:12] <kikimara> jampiter  press FN+ shortkey
[17:13] <cinex> shortkey, whats that?
[17:13] <Jampiter> cinex: I have an ATI Radeon 200M and the Ubuntu driver. It has worked with GNOME in the past.
[17:13] <kikimara> depends on laptop
[17:13] <Jampiter> kikimara: Er, is the shortkey marked with a specific icon?
[17:14] <kikimara> yeah
[17:14] <Jampiter> Oh! I think I have it..
[17:14] <kikimara> does it helped?
[17:14] <Jampiter> It does nothing.
[17:14] <Jampiter> IT isn't showing up in the dialog for monitors
[17:15] <cinex> i have only set up an external monitor with nvidia
[17:15] <kikimara> is it exavt shortkey?
[17:15] <kikimara> is it exact shortkey?
[17:16] <Jampiter> It has a picture of what looks like a laptop from the side, then a /, then a monitor
[17:32] <|PaperTiger|> Anyone here dual boot with Windows?
[17:32] <Tm_T> why asking?
[17:34] <|PaperTiger|> fter using Super Grub Disk to reinstall GRUB launcher, Windows now won't launch. Any suggestions?
[17:34] <|PaperTiger|> After*
[17:35] <Tm_T> depends on the error ofcourse (:
[17:35] <jimmy51_> i have about 100 photos from vacation.  what's the best way to distribute them in a digital photo album to both linux and windows users?
[17:35] <Tm_T> jimmy51_: depends, you mean website or some web service?
[17:36] <|PaperTiger|> I have the GRUB booter back, but Windows does nothing
[17:38] <jimmy51_> Tm_T: i was hoping some distributable file
[17:39] <jimmy51_> but i guess on the web would be fine
[17:39] <Tm_T> jimmy51_: hmm, zip works
[17:39] <jimmy51_> Tm_T: no... i mean something the user (wife, grandma, uncle, etc) would open, with thumbnails and the ability to click through them
[17:39] <jimmy51_> with comments per picture
[17:39] <cinex> flickr?
[17:40] <Tm_T> ah, generate webpage from it then, don't ask how though, I remember I did that using Konqueror in the past but dunno about its status these days
[17:41] <jimmy51_> this looks cool, but it's not free:  http://www.fotoplayer.com/v3.1/index.html
[17:42] <josh-l> okay yesterday i installed a bunch of stuff i no longer need, but i cant really remember what everything is, is there anything i can do to find out and uninstall? (i used aptitude)
[17:47] <Slartibartfast> josh-l: you can try to find ou with "history" ....... history |grep aptitiude
[17:47] <Slartibartfast> out*
[17:51] <josh-l> oh ok thanks Slartibartfast
[17:52] <pietro_z> salut a tous
[17:52] <pietro_z> bonsoir messieurs
[17:53] <ScorpKing> jimmy51_: have you tried an openoffice presentation?
[17:53] <jimmy51_> negative
[17:54] <jimmy51_> ScorpKing: is that compatible with ms ppt?
[17:54] <ScorpKing> jimmy51_: no, the other way round but you get openoffice for windows
[17:54] <jimmy51_> hmm
[17:55] <ScorpKing> jimmy51_: it might be a nice way to introduce openoffice to a few windows users ;)
[17:58] <lockphreaker> hi
[17:58] <ScorpKing> jimmy51_: you can also make a video cd or dvd
[17:58] <ScorpKing> !hi | lockphreaker
[17:59] <lockphreaker> im from colombia and you
[18:30] <michele> ciao
[18:30] <michele> !list
[18:59] <Makuseru> Is there any way to change what device Kmix controls?
[19:04] <josh-l> can anyone tell me how to tell kde to use firefox as default browser instead of konqueror please
[19:04] <Ilie> josh-l:  go to system settings
[19:04] <Ilie> and choose default applications
[19:04] <Ilie> you can set your default browser from there
[19:06] <josh-l> Ilie I tried that, it gives me only a space to enter in the browser to use, and i tried "firefox" doesnt seem to work
[19:06] <josh-l> unless maybe i need to restart konversation for it to work
[19:06] <Ilie> type in konsole "whereis firefox"
[19:06] <Ilie> and enter the whole path to firefox
[19:07] <Ilie> something la /usr/bin/firefox if it's installed there
[19:09] <josh-l> ah ok thx
[19:17] <Ilie> np
[19:51] <beardbar> i get this notifier that says 22 software updates available in my taskbar, but when i open kpackage im fully updated, what givs
[19:58] <denford> i have a new monitor and need to somehow enable higher resolutions on my monitors, how can I do this?
[19:59] <marek__> hi i have two coputers, one is on my desk at work - and it has access to ftp server, and i also have one in my home, it has a different IP and has no access for that specific server. How can i "tunnel" the connection between them? i already installed ssh server on my work PC
[20:03] <cerecitas> now this might sounds a bit.. but how to watch a windows media audio file on kubuntu?
[20:03] <cinex> anyone know how to convert .eml files (thunderbird) to pdf?
[20:08] <faichele> cinex: If under KDE, and using CUPS, try printing to the "PDF" printer.
[20:10] <hix> cerecitas: sudo apt-get install w32codecs  (w64codecs if u use 64bit)
[20:10] <cerecitas> thanks hix
[20:12] <cinex> faichele: will that actually put it into a pdf file?
[20:13] <cinex> hahaha, faichele that's awsome
[20:17] <Albyyx> urgs
[20:21] <faichele> cinex: The printed files should go in a folder named "PDF" in your home directory.
[20:24] <cinex> now if only opera would print it properly... or gmail would print it with the attachments in-line
[20:28] <noaXess> !quanta
[20:28] <noaXess> !info quanta
[20:30] <noaXess> is ther a newer version of quanta? for kde4.2?
[20:35] <slow-motion> n8
[20:37] <noaXess> !info kde4-quanta
[20:41] <Ilie> any good editor/ide for php ?
[20:42] <jussi01> !editors
[20:43] <kaddi> hello everyone :)
[20:43] <kornfan71> Hey. Trying to get a good VNC server for Kubuntu 8.10 with KDE 4.2. Krfb has been giving me issues. Any ideas?
[20:43] <KomiaPoika> hi
[20:43] <kaddi> anyone know a good program, that'll write my thesis for me? ;)
[20:43] <hix> !code
[20:43] <Ilie> thanks jussi01, I'm interested in web development tools, quana is nice but I don't like the look
[20:43] <kaddi> !hi |KomiaPoika
[20:43] <KomiaPoika> i have kubuntu 8.10 with kde4. how can i delete kde4 and install kde3 instead?
[20:44] <KomiaPoika> while keeping my 8.10 system
[20:44] <noaXess> does anybody know a status of quanta+ fro kde4?
[20:44] <jussi01> !info kompozer | Ilie
[20:44] <noaXess> !html
[20:45] <noaXess> !info bluefish
[20:47] <achim_xxxl> hello
[20:47] <kaddi> !hi |achim_xxxl
[20:47] <kornfan71> Hey. Trying to get a good VNC server for Kubuntu 8.10 with KDE 4.2. Krfb has been giving me issues. Any ideas?
[20:49] <idebug> hey, having a problem with fusesmb... i won't find anything at all. using plain configuration. here's what i get when i run fusesmb with debug toggled on. http://pastebin.com/d4427ed00
[20:49] <kaddi> KomiaPoika: I found this thread, that might make you happy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=963695&highlight=kde3+intrepid
[20:50] <KomiaPoika> thx
[20:50] <idebug> its verys trange. the only reason it complains that fusesmb.cache is running is that it sees a pid file that fusesmb.cache created (before it died). deleting the pid file has no effect
[21:02] <hi_all> hi
[21:02] <kaddi> !hi |hi_all
[21:03] <hi_all> kaddi:  hi
[21:03] <hi_all> anyone know anything about this error: "Could not obtain a write lock on the cache, falling back to read-only mode" ??
[21:03] <hi_all> I can't update
[21:04] <hi_all> It was after install Kubuntu 8.10
[21:06] <kaddi> hi_all usually that means, that another instance of adept is already running
[21:07] <hi_all> kaddi: thanks... I'll investigate!
[21:10] <Kasm279> ok, i get this error on startup : no command arguments supplied! Usage: kdesudo [-u <runas>] <command> kdesudo will now exit....
[21:10] <Kasm279> ok, i get this error on startup : no command arguments supplied! Usage: kdesudo [-u <runas>] <command> kdesudo will now exit....
[21:10] <Kasm279> oops
[21:10] <Kasm279> ok, i get this error on startup : no command arguments supplied! Usage: kdesudo [-u <runas>] <command> kdesudo will now exit....
[21:10] <Kasm279> aargh
[21:11] <Kasm279> wat do i do?
[21:11] <mefisto__> panic
[21:11] <josh-l> whats the package for qt libs?
[21:12] <Kasm279> it works ok, though....
[21:13] <hi_all> kaddi:  perfect, thanks :)
[21:13] <Kasm279> except for the error....
[21:13] <mefisto__> Kasm279: where do you see the error message? is this after login?
[21:13] <Kasm279> yes
[21:14] <mefisto__> Kasm279: so the message appears in a window?
[21:15] <Kasm279> whoa, that cd is HOT!
[21:15] <Kasm279> yes
[21:23] <mefisto__> Kasm279: what kubuntu version?
[21:23] <Kasm279> 8.10
[21:24] <Kasm279> !you
[21:25] <hi_all> I can see all my volumes from 'File Manager' but I'd like to know where there are they mound (!)
[21:25] <hi_all> *mounted
[21:26] <hi_all> I was a question if someone can give me an idea.......... :)
[21:26] <Kasm279>  /dev/
[21:26] <hi_all> :O  I'll re-check, thanks Kasm279
[21:26] <Dragnslcr> hi_all- if you select one of them, the path should be shown
[21:27] <Dragnslcr> No, /dev is the physical devices, not the mount points
[21:27] <Kasm279> oh
[21:27] <Dragnslcr> If they were mounted automagically, they're probably in /media
[21:27] <yao_ziyuan1> right click the title bar of a dolphin window,
[21:27] <yao_ziyuan1> does the popup menu have shadow?
[21:27] <yao_ziyuan1> it seems all other programs do but dolphin doesn't
[21:28] <hi_all> Dragnslcr:  Let's see,............
[21:29] <hi_all> Yes! NOW they are mounted
[21:29] <hi_all> but they were mounted only after use File Manager.......... is it possible?
[21:30] <hi_all> I didn't see these volumes before in /media
[21:33] <mefisto__> Kasm279: it seems to me that you might be logging out when a program with root privileges is running, and so the session is saved. and when the session is restored on next login, it tries to restart the program that had root privileges, and that confuses kdesudo somehow
[21:34] <Kasm279> ok
[21:34] <Kasm279> it does it evry time i log in
[21:35] <mefisto__> Kasm279: you might want to try turning off session restore, logout, then login and see if the error message still appears
[21:35] <Kasm279> ok
[21:36] <Kasm279> how to turn off session restore?
[21:36] <irvingh30> hello, i need some help, i just downloaded the kubuntu DVD and i?m trying to run the live DVD to see how it works before installing it, is asking me for a username and password and i dont know what to put, can someone help me with that?
[21:36] <kaddi> hi_all if you want the partitions to be mounted automatically you might add them to fstab
[21:36] <mefisto__> Kasm279: systemsettings > advanced tab > session manager. change it to "start with an empty session"
[21:37] <kaddi> yeah, thats called timing -.-
[21:37] <jamesjedimaster> irvingh30: try with ubuntu / ubuntu or user / user
[21:39] <irvingh30> i?ll try that
[21:39] <irvingh30> thanks
[21:39] <Kasm279> yay, i logged out an changed the session type to KDE new
[21:39] <Kasm279> and it worked
[21:39] <Kasm279> thanks, everybody
[21:40] <mefisto__> Kasm279: it would be interesting to see if the error message appears if you switch session restore back on again
[21:40] <sk8terboyv> hi, is anyone that caan help me ?
[21:41] <kaddi> !ask
[21:42] <sk8terboyv> i wanna know if i have downloada the install cd of ubuntu from the offiicial site, and i don't haave a cd-rom, can i boot for install it, form my hard disk ?? i have now windws 98 install on my hard disk. how can i rule the instalation from the hard disk to install it ?? please, anyone... ?!
[21:44] <Kasm279> no cd rom?
[21:44] <mefisto__> sk8terboyv: can you boot from usb?
[21:45] <sk8terboyv> no, i don't have a cd rom, and the usb doesn't work, and i have win 98 insstalled on my hard disk ! i wanna install it booting from my hard disk !
[21:45] <mefisto__> sk8terboyv: if you boot from your hard disk, you will get windows
[21:47] <sk8terboyv> look, friend. i have now installed on my hard disk windows 98, but i wanna install ubuntu ! how can i boot ubunt from my hard disk ? isn't clear... ?
[21:47] <mefisto__> sk8terboyv: you might be able to install thru wubi, if you can mount the ISO with a windows app that can mount ISOs
[21:47] <mefisto__> !wubi
[21:48] <sk8terboyv> i understand it, but...did u notice that i sad that i have installed on my hard disk windows 98, did wubi work under windows 98 ?
[21:51] <sk8terboyv> ohh...no help ...in here...
[21:51] <sk8terboyv> tell me then, where i should ask for some help ... ?
[21:51] <kaddi> did you at least look at the links given?
[21:51] <mefisto__> sk8terboyv: http://wubi-installer.org/ says Windows 98, 2000, XP, Vista
[21:52] <sk8terboyv> yes friend, i'm there !
[21:52] <sk8terboyv> i don't fine the link for download wubi...
[21:52] <Kasm279> mount ISO's with daemon tools
[21:52] <sk8terboyv> where can i search for it ?
[21:53] <mefisto__> sk8terboyv: http://wubi-installer.org/ also I don't think you need the ISO if you install with wubi. never tried wubi though, so I'm not sure
[21:53] <sk8terboyv> uffff...
[21:53] <sk8terboyv> thanks anyway...
[21:53] <Kasm279> mefisto_, i didnt turn the session restore off
[21:56] <mefisto__> Kasm279: so you logged out, logged in again, but no error message?
[21:57] <mefisto__> Kasm279: ok, I think I understand. you chose a new session when you logged in, at the login screen
[21:58] <Kasm279> yes
[21:58] <Kasm279> i clicked session type and clicked KDE (new)
[22:01] <Kasm279> !ppc
[22:03] <Kasm279> !apple
[22:03] <Kasm279> !mac
[22:04] <jorgeinss> holas
[22:04] <jorgeinss> hola
[22:05] <javimansilla> how do I configure my touchpad in kde4?
[22:05] <kosmonaut> hi! what is the name of the kde-documentation-package (when I press f1 there is no handbook available)
[22:07] <Kasm279> !intel
[22:07] <Kasm279> 0.+47
[22:10] <mefisto__> kosmonaut: khelpcenter4
[22:11]  * Kasm279 is burning yet another ISO
[22:12] <Kasm279> this is of xubuntu PPC
[22:13] <josh-l> anyone know how to get Fancytasks, and or Stasks for intrepid?
[22:13] <kosmonaut> mefisto__: thx! It' s installed ;-)
[22:14] <Kasm279> !about
[22:15] <kosmonaut> mefisto__: strange don' t how I deinstalled it
[22:19] <kosmonaut> does some1 user quassel here....I wonder how to "ignore" all those user bla has cloed/quit/joined messages
[22:20] <josh-l> hey folks check out this awsome effect for kde panel:
[22:20] <josh-l> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY_0xSdyy6s
[22:21] <kosmonaut> nice :-d
[22:21] <baal> hallo
[22:22] <kaddi> i want it :D
[22:22]  * baal for once got linux installed.
[22:22] <josh-l> me too
[22:22] <josh-l> check this out too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfqtnncLNcQ
[22:22] <kaddi> so, before i start thinking, i'll just ask: how do i get it? :D
[22:23] <baal> how can i make mouse clicking less sensitive ?
[22:23] <mefisto__> kosmonaut: I'm using quassel. right-click in the chat window, there is a "hide events" submenu
[22:23] <josh-l> btw if you guys are running intrepid 32 bit you can install these from here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfqtnncLNcQ
[22:23] <josh-l> oops sorry
[22:23] <josh-l> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Stasks+for+intrepid+KDE+4.2.1?content=100753
[22:23] <josh-l> from there and
[22:23] <josh-l> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Fancytasks+for+intrepid+KDE+4.2.1?content=100754
[22:23] <kosmonaut> mefisto__: Yeah! Great!
[22:24] <josh-l> i unfortunately and running on 64 bit, so cant install those :(
[22:24] <irvingh30> hello it?s me again
[22:24] <Kasm279> fancy tasks: dock clone?
[22:24] <josh-l> yeah dude for kde panel
[22:24] <irvingh30> tried to use user user, kubuntu kubuntu and demo demo as passwords for kubuntu Live DVD and nothing happens
[22:24] <kosmonaut> mefisto__: so much better now
[22:25] <josh-l> if anyone tries out stasks, or fancytasks let me know how it goes
[22:25] <irvingh30> kubuntu is asking me for username and password and i don?t know what to do
[22:25] <josh-l> what are the kde4 dev packages ? i want to compile something
[22:26] <irvingh30> hey can someone help me, i need HELP
[22:27] <Kasm279> root root, root kubuntu
[22:27] <irvingh30> sorry?
[22:27] <cinex> whats up irvingh30 ?
[22:27] <kosmonaut> irvingh30: when does kubuntu want a password
[22:27] <cinex> asking you where?
[22:27] <irvingh30> yes exactly
[22:28] <irvingh30> the first screen that appears is that one, before that i see just a screen that shows half pink and the other half little boxes but i cant tell you exactly how it looks like
[22:28] <cinex> the login screen ?
[22:28] <irvingh30> yes
[22:29] <cinex> what password did you set for your username ?
[22:29] <irvingh30> login screen but is just a live CD, is not suppossed to ask for that
[22:29] <cinex> oh
[22:29] <Zengol> Good afternoon everyone.
[22:29] <irvingh30> havent set any
[22:29] <cinex> username: ubuntu
[22:29] <cinex> password blank, i think
[22:29] <josh-l> what are the kde4 dev packages ? i want to compile something
[22:29] <kosmonaut> (not sure blank 2*?)
[22:29] <irvingh30> tried that didnt work
[22:29] <cinex> try password ubuntu
[22:29] <cinex> or
[22:30] <cinex> press cntrl+alt+f1 log into the console.
[22:30] <cinex> alt+f7 to get back to the login screen
[22:30] <irvingh30> let me try that
[22:31] <irvingh30> any other suggestion?, sorry im totally new with this
[22:31] <cinex> well if u can log into the text terminal u can get the desktop loaded that way
[22:32] <kosmonaut> irvingh30: now...please explain...u r starting your liveCD and u need to login? is that right? Or did you log-out for any reason
[22:32] <Zengol> Anyone know of a sound processor that is designed for the Linux OS?
[22:32] <cinex> Zengol: audacity?
[22:32] <josh-l> does anyone know what the kde4 development packages are please? I am trying to compile something
[22:32] <cinex> probably not what your looking for
[22:32] <irvingh30> no, i just tried live to test before installing
[22:32] <halfsane> hey guys, is there a way with kde 4.2 to save dragged and dropped text/pics like in gnome?
[22:33] <kosmonaut> irvingh30: hmm...strange isn' t it?!
[22:33] <cinex> irvingh30: did u manage to log into the console?
[22:33] <irvingh30> nop
[22:33] <cinex> wrong password?
[22:33] <irvingh30> not at all i havent set any user or password
[22:33] <Zengol> cinex: I mean a sound processor as in, plug your guitar jack into the front of your PC and have the ability to add sound effect's and record your music.
[22:34] <cinex> Zengol: beats me im afraid
[22:34] <kosmonaut> how about *nothing* for user and nothing for *password*?
[22:34] <cinex> iNiku: what username/password did you try?
[22:34] <kosmonaut> forget about those **
[22:35] <mefisto__> Zengol: creox is one that I know of
[22:36] <kaddi> how can i change the location of a given widget in the taskbar?
[22:36] <cinex> kaddi: kde4 or 3 ?
[22:36] <kaddi> 4
[22:37] <cinex> click on the little cashew in the corner of the tasbar, the you can just drag them around
[22:37] <Zengol> mefisto__: Ahh, thank you man, that's exactly what i am looking for.
[22:37] <cinex> u will need to unlock the widgeets first though
[22:37] <mefisto__> Zengol: rock on :)
[22:37] <kaddi> it's magic. now it works :D thx cinex
[22:37] <cinex> nice
[22:37] <Zengol> mefisto__: How good is the compatibility with the system, such as crashing and bad feedback?
[22:38] <kaddi> josh-I just installed both: fancytasks and stasks on intrepid 32bit with kde 4.2 and both work like a charm.
[22:39] <Zengol> mefisto__: Well, nvm, i'll just have to give it a go and hope it goes well compared to other OS's that i'd rather not mention.....
[22:39] <mefisto__> Zengol: I've never used it. it got installed with the ubuntustudio-audio metapackage. it probably uses jack audio, so depends on how well jack is set up
[22:39] <Zengol> Yes, jack audio.
[22:40] <SeanTater> When I suspend my computer, my monitor turns off, but that's all. I can't turn it back on, but I know my computer is still on because it takes time to turn off after I press the power button. In short: can I suspend and leave my monitor on, to see what's going on?
[22:40] <Zengol> mefisto__: I hope it work's well with an active bass guitar.
[22:41] <Zengol> mefisto__: I'll have to give it a go here after awhile when i get my speaker's set up.
[22:42] <josh-l> if anyone feels like it I would adore to have a 64bit package of these: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Stasks+for+intrepid+KDE+4.2.1?content=100753
[22:42] <josh-l> and http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Fancytasks+for+intrepid+KDE+4.2.1?content=100754
[22:43] <mefisto__> Zengol: you might want to install the linux-rt kernel for audio
[22:44] <p-f__> Is there a hidden "make the monitor *really* turn off" option somewhere? Mine just blanks out, which is still too bright when trying to sleep.
[22:44] <p-f__> I've got it set to power off after 10 minutes, but it doesn't actually do anything
[22:44] <cinex> p-f__: you been into system settings and checked the power control?
[22:44] <cinex> oh
[22:45] <cinex> there is always the power switch :s
[22:47] <Dragnslcr> p-f__- using System Settings -> Display -> Power Management?
[22:48] <Dragnslcr> Actually, System Settings -> Display -> Power Control
[22:48] <p-f__> Dragnslcr: using Search->Power, because I wasn't actually expecting pwoer settings to be under display, but yes :p
[22:49] <p-f__> aha, it works now
[22:49] <Zengol> mefisto__: How do i go about getting the rt kernel?
[22:49] <p-f__> it seems as though the solution was to change that setting from 10 minutes to 2, apply, change it to 9, apply, change to 1 and apply again
[22:52] <mefisto__> Zengol: install linux-rt   or you could install ubuntustudio-audio if you want to install a whole bunch of audio apps and tools too. the rt kernel will come with ubuntustudio
[22:55] <jpedroza> evening all, I am running into an issue where my laptop reports that the battery has reached critical level and will shut down. the problem is that the battery is fully charged. I have looked into several older bugs, and they were supposedly fixed in Intrepid, but I am still having the issue.
[22:56] <mefisto__> jpedroza: and does it then shut down? or is it just confused and lying to you about the battery?
[22:56] <jpedroza> mefisto__: It promptly shuts down.
[22:57] <jpedroza> mefisto__: this is with a new battery that has been charging overnight.
[22:57] <lockphreaker> hi
[22:58] <mefisto__> jpedroza: that's not good
[22:58] <jpedroza> mefisto__: I know.
[22:58] <jpedroza> mefisto__: Booting to Windows and I have no issue
[22:58] <jpedroza> mefisto__: only happens in Linux
[22:59] <mefisto__> jpedroza: just kubuntu? or have you tried other DEs or other distros and have the same problem?
[23:00] <jpedroza> only tried kubuntu
[23:00] <lockphreaker> spanish?
[23:01] <jpedroza> lockphreaker: try #kubuntu-es
[23:01] <lockphreaker> tank s  j pedroza
[23:04] <jpedroza> mefisto__: For a while I had Jaunty on this same laptop, as a test laptop, and it worked fine. Since I reverted to Intrepid (clean Install) it is having this issue.
[23:05] <mefisto__> jpedroza: ok, jaunty uses powerdevil for power management. I don't think intrepid does, but I think powerdevil is in intrepid repos, so it's installable
[23:05] <mefisto__> !powerdevil
[23:05] <mefisto__> !info powerdevil
[23:06] <jpedroza> mefisto__: I tried to install Powerdevil, but it fails
[23:06] <mefisto__> jpedroza: fails to install?
[23:07] <inteliwasp> i have a intel core2 quad core chip, but when i try the 64bit version cd, it boots me to a busybox shell, can i only use x86 only?
[23:07] <jpedroza> mefisto__: looks like it needs libplasma2 and that needs kde-workspace-data 4.1.4 but 4.2.1a is installed
[23:08] <jpedroza> inteliwasp: Is the quad core from intel x86 or x86_64?
[23:08] <jpedroza> inteliwasp: I am not familliar with that chip
[23:08] <inteliwasp> jpedroza, how can i tell?
[23:08] <inteliwasp> er...
[23:08] <mefisto__> jpedroza: you might be able to install the jaunty package then. search for it at packages.ubuntu.com
[23:08] <carpii> all quad cores are 64 bit afaik
[23:08] <inteliwasp> let me wili it
[23:09] <inteliwasp> wiki*
[23:09] <jpedroza> carpii: appears to be
[23:12] <inteliwasp> i didn't see anything wrong in dmesg...
[23:13] <xavierg2003_> hello
[23:13]  * xavierg2003_ yawns
[23:14] <andrey_> !
[23:21] <jpedroza> ok, so my battery now shows that it is not present in /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/state even though I am running on the battery right now.
[23:25] <XPS_M1330> where can I get the public keys for the ppa sources?
[23:25] <XPS_M1330> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 8B9FBE5158B3AFA9
[23:27] <mefisto__> XPS_M1330: do this: sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 8B9FBE5158B3AFA9  (the string from the GPG error)
[23:31] <XPS_M1330> thanks a lot
[23:54] <yayo> saludos
[23:54] <yayo> español
[23:55] <yayo> speak spanish


[00:00] <BUGabundo> the saver one LOL
[00:00] <Sarvatt> saver?
[00:00] <BUGabundo> the x-squaters or something
[00:00] <Sarvatt> theres nothing in x-updates
[00:00] <GuidoVb> i found a duplicate bug and the person who submitted it already tried the new drivers from xorg-edgers but there was no fix for this bug
[00:00] <Sarvatt> for karmic
[00:00] <BUGabundo> *safer
[00:00] <Sarvatt> mesa is in edgers
[00:00] <Sarvatt> sorry in the middle of setting up a new pc, whats the problem?
[00:01] <Sarvatt> flickering..
[00:01] <Sarvatt> try using 2.6.31-2 GuidoVb
[00:01] <Sarvatt> theres a flickering problem in the fifo watermarking code that got added in 2.6.31-rc3 for some people
[00:02] <Sarvatt> it should be fixed by 2.6.31-4
[00:02] <GuidoVb> great info... i will wait for 2.6.31-4 i hope it won't be late to appear... now i'm using 1360x768... it's not so bad :)
[00:03] <Sarvatt> well it'll be in 2.6.31-5 if its not in -4, karmic wont stop until -9 or -10 probably.. you can just use -2 for now though to fix it
[00:05] <Sarvatt> it only hit people on certain chipsets with oddball combinations of dual channel memory running at certain speeds, but its a known problem and a fix is already out and testing
[00:06] <GuidoVb> exact, that's my configuration... :S
[00:06] <GuidoVb> thanks sarvatt, it could be helpfull to add your information in the launchpad bug
[00:07] <BUGabundo>   https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-karmic-i586-support
[00:07] <BUGabundo> is now obsolete
[00:07] <BUGabundo> so no i586 optimizations :\
[00:07] <Sarvatt> http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/intel-gfx/2009-July/003378.html
[00:07] <BUGabundo> Sarvatt: won't daily kernel images help GuidoVb?
[00:09] <Sarvatt> if it was in linus' tree already yeah but its not
[00:09] <Sarvatt> and those kernels arent for karmic, they're using the jaunty configs
[00:10] <Sarvatt> http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/anholt/drm-intel.git;a=commit;h=dff33cfcefa31c30b72c57f44586754ea9e8f3e2
[00:10] <Sarvatt> thats the fix
[00:11] <BUGabundo> yofel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/399031
[00:11] <BUGabundo> Sarvatt: really? I didn't know that
[00:11] <GuidoVb> mmm... sorry again for this newbie question.. do i have to recompile kernel to apply this fix?
[00:11] <Sarvatt> yep
[00:12] <Sarvatt> or just use 2.6.31-2 until its released
[00:12] <yofel> BUGabundo: thx
[00:13] <Sarvatt> wont be longer than a week from now until 2.6.30-4 is out
[00:13] <GuidoVb> yes, it's better... i will wait... thanks sarvatt for your help!
[00:53] <BUGabundo> congrats Q-FUNK and akgraner
[00:53] <BUGabundo> our newest ubuntu members
[00:53] <Q-FUNK> thanks!
[00:53] <akgraner> BUGabundo,  Thank you!!
[00:55] <BUGabundo> I stayed up late just for you guys :))
[00:55] <BUGabundo> now bed
[00:56] <akgraner> Thank you!!!
[00:56] <akgraner> appreciate it...
[00:57] <BUGabundo> oh no akgraner
[00:58] <BUGabundo> I am the one to appreciate all you have done
[00:58] <BUGabundo> in such a small time frame
[00:58] <BUGabundo> took me 2 years to do as much as you have done
[00:58] <charlie-tca> congrats, akgraner. Keep up the good work
[00:58]  * charlie-tca mumbles about *only* taking about 3 years
[00:59] <akgraner> charlie-tca, thank you...
[00:59] <BUGabundo> charlie-tca: we are old school
[00:59] <BUGabundo> this ppl now, apply to it after 2 months
[00:59] <BUGabundo> they don't even make a full 2 cycle eheheh
[00:59] <BUGabundo> ;))
[00:59] <charlie-tca> Well, at least old ;-)
[01:00] <BUGabundo> what they do just for a t-shirt and a business card
[01:00] <BUGabundo> akgraner: ;)
[01:00] <charlie-tca> I been seeing that too. I hope they stay around afterward.
[01:00] <BUGabundo> charlie-tca: speak for your self... I'm trying to keep my self bellow 30
[01:00] <Daskreech> Is there a known issue with dhclinet?
[01:00] <charlie-tca> t-shirt?
[01:00] <BUGabundo> charlie-tca: don't you know what took akgraner to use Ubuntu??
[01:01]  * charlie-tca tried to keep it below 30 for a long time, then 40, then ...
[01:01] <BUGabundo> it was a darn Ubuntu t-shirt pgarner gave her
[01:01] <BUGabundo> :)))))
[01:01] <charlie-tca> That's right. I remember that now
[01:01] <charlie-tca> Maybe I should try that. Get my daughter to try this
[01:02] <akgraner> :-) our daughter is using ubuntu now as well...I gave her a shirt..:-)
[01:02] <charlie-tca> gotta be the tshirt ;-)
[01:03] <akgraner> magic in them..:-)
[01:03] <BUGabundo> now I see whre I've failed
[01:03] <BUGabundo> need to get me a few t-shirts too
[01:03] <BUGabundo> its even better then FREE CDs
[01:03] <BUGabundo> ok
[01:03] <BUGabundo> I most go
[01:03] <charlie-tca> Seems so
[01:03] <BUGabundo> or I'll not wake up for work
[01:03] <charlie-tca> later
[01:03] <BUGabundo> luv you all
[01:04]  * BUGabundo once a upon a time there was this pillow with my name on it..... bye
[01:04] <charlie-tca> good night, BUGabundo
[01:59] <Sarvatt> soo, anyone tried the karmic livecd from 07-15? cant get it to boot and dont know if its just broken
[02:05] <Sarvatt> probably doesnt like the 2 raid arrays in my htpc, just dropping me to busybox
[02:05] <GuidoVb> Hi sarvatt again, i'm not english speaker, what's the meaning of a bug with "Triaged" status?
[02:18] <Jeruvy> I believe triaged means it's ready for the package developers to fix
[02:23] <virtuald> triaged means someone is taking responsibility for fixing the bug
[02:30] <GuidoVb> me again, i'm trying to replace squid with squid3 because i want to test it (it fixes an important bug to me),  in my /etc/init.d directory i have both squid and squid3 boot scripts... how can i disable the squid one without removing the whole package?
[02:31] <SeveredCross> GuidoVb: man update-rc.d
[02:36] <GuidoVb> great!... update-rc.d squid stop? is it ok? "stop" only disables and "remove" deletes forever?
[03:30] <cdm10> is it just me, or is it impossible to shut down Karmic with the gui?
[03:31] <billybigrigger> must be just you
[03:31] <cdm10> latest updates?
[03:32] <billybigrigger> yeah
[03:32] <billybigrigger> hah
[03:32] <billybigrigger> just noticed that
[03:32] <billybigrigger> can't shutdown or restart
[03:32] <billybigrigger> haha i should look before i type :)
[03:33] <billybigrigger> tried logging out first?
[03:33] <billybigrigger> then restart or shutdown?
[03:33] <cdm10> yeah, that does work.
[03:33] <cdm10> reporting a bug :)
[03:33] <billybigrigger> do it
[03:33] <cdm10> what package should it be reported in?
[03:33] <billybigrigger> and subscribe me to it
[03:33] <billybigrigger> i would say gnome
[03:33] <cdm10> i'll figure out what executable is run when the menu item is selected
[03:33] <billybigrigger> could be gdm too i dunno
[03:33] <billybigrigger> i gotta run though
[03:33] <cdm10> also I'm going to file something against gdm, the user-selector applet in the top right should allow shutdown
[03:34] <cdm10> ok -- you're billybigrigger on lp?
[03:34] <billybigrigger> message me the bug link and i'll sub when i'm back
[03:34] <billybigrigger> yeah
[03:34] <cdm10> k
[03:34] <cdm10> i'll do my best.
[03:34] <billybigrigger> roger
[03:34] <billybigrigger> over and out
[03:35] <poseidon> How do I set grub up so that I can get it to boot me into xp?
[03:35] <poseidon> I just installed alpha 2
[03:36] <poseidon> I still have the windows partition, the installer just didn't point grub to it for some reason
[03:37] <eagles0513875> hey guys
[04:13] <DanaG> I get "failed to shut down" when shutting down from gdm/
[04:14] <DanaG> And selecting "Shut down" from System menu just immediately logs out -- no prompt.
[04:14] <DanaG> And doesn't shut down, either.
[04:14] <DanaG> !find uuid.h
[04:15] <cdm10> DanaG: I don't have those problems, just the UI weirdness... I reported the bug
[04:15] <cdm10> it's bug #400052
[04:16] <DanaG> oh yeah, I managed to add nm-applet to gdm user's session.
[04:16] <cdm10> this new gdm is scary and voodoo-ish
[04:17] <andresmujica> danag: same case here..
[04:17] <DanaG> oh yeah, I'd agree with the "voodoo-ish".
[04:18] <DanaG> GDM is in fact its own user... with its own gnome-session.
[04:18] <cdm10> I have no understanding of how it works. Not that I ever really had any understanding of how anything works, but this is especially weird.
[04:30] <DanaG> !find xbean.jar
[04:30] <DanaG> glassfish?  really?  not xmlbeans?
[04:38] <milos_> !log
[04:54] <DanaG> argh, when the heck are we going to get keycodes > 255 working?
[04:55] <DanaG> It's sometihng I've been waiting for for quite a long time.
[05:31] <Sarvatt> yay, always fun when you update and reboot and the whole desktop disappears :)
[05:34] <Sarvatt> "/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: gnome-session is broken or not fully installed"
[05:34] <Sarvatt> .....
[06:13] <buzzmandt> Anyone here think intel graphics driver is "slow" in the newest kernel?
[06:15] <buzzmandt> anyone here with intel graphics?
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[06:48] <bazhang> !ops | dhonie_
[07:18] <Hobbsee> oh dea..
[08:17] <zlirp2> Do we know what version PHP will be at in Karmic?
[08:25] <kklimonda> zlirp2: the one that will be uploaded before feature freeze (or after if exception is given)
[08:26] <zlirp2> Do we know what version we're at now?
[08:26] <zlirp2> I'm just hoping it will be 5.3 at the very least.
[08:26] <kklimonda> zlirp2: i.e. if you want 5.3 then you can ask what to do to help to get it in archive
[08:26] <kklimonda> right now it's 5.2.10
[08:26] <zlirp2> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/+bug/394385
[08:27] <zlirp2> That looks fairly promising :)
[08:28] <zlirp2> I want to set up a dev server with 5.3, so I'm pulling down the karmic server image.
[08:28] <zlirp2> Hopefully its in there.
[08:28] <kklimonda> it isnt
[08:29] <zlirp2> Well then I'll stop downloading and just run a jaunty server and compile 5.3!
[08:29] <kklimonda> yup, for now its better idea
[08:30] <zlirp2> Its just a dev VM...I'm not too worried.  But I figured I'd run the beta if it had it.
[08:30] <zlirp2> Damn...
[08:31] <zlirp2> thanks!
[09:02] <modder25> [03:35] <tweaker25> http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=fr&js=y&u=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.ubuntu-fr.org%2Fviewtopic.php%3Fpid%3D2808462%23p2808462&sl=auto&tl=en&history_state0=
[09:02] <modder25> [03:35] <tweaker25> http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=2808462#p2808462
[09:04] <modder25> [03:35] <tweaker25> http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=fr&js=y&u=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.ubuntu-fr.org%2Fviewtopic.php%3Fpid%3D2808462%23p2808462&sl=auto&tl=en&history_state0=
[09:04] <modder25> [03:35] <tweaker25> http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=2808462#p2808462
[09:07] <hifi> !ops | modder25
[09:07] <Hobbsee> sigh.
[09:07] <Hobbsee> thanks hifi
[09:07] <hifi> spamming in many channels
[09:08] <jussi01> Hobbsee: *g* was just typing that...
[09:08] <hifi> first!
[09:09] <Hobbsee> dholbach got him on the est
[09:10] <hifi> on another note google translate does a fairly good job fr->en
[09:12] <Hobbsee> tasty kline
[09:14] <ikonia> hey Hobbsee's active
[09:16] <Hobbsee> indeed
[09:16] <Hobbsee> fro time to tie, anyway
[09:36] <MrStein> is there a way to check what options were used during install ? In some log file ? In /var/log/installer I can't find such info.
[10:24] <Blizzerand> How do I update my jaunty to karmic
[10:53] <MrStein> Blizzerand: it is explained in the release notes, I believe
[10:54] <Blizzerand> Nah I am nearly finished updating lol
[10:54] <MrStein> ;-)
[10:57] <Blizzerand> * upgrading
[11:17] <sergey_> Hi there. I'm playging with yesterday 'daily-live' image and here is FF<IP_ADDRESS> and OOo3.0. Though I know that DebianImportFreeze phase is finished at 25th June. Is there a chance to have FF3.5 and OOo3.1 in karmic?
[11:23] <yofel> sergey_: you can install 'firefox-3.5' from the repository if you want it, it should become the default soon and karmic has OOo 3.1 although the logo says 3.0
[11:24] <sergey_> yofel, ah, thank you very much. that's all I wanted to know.
[11:28] <MrStein> Anyon knows where "Network Settings" went ? (from preferences)
[11:30] <MrStein> eh, did anyone answer ?
[11:32] <yofel> MrStein: there  should be an entry for 'nm-connection-editor'
[11:33] <yofel> I use the german version so it's callled 'Netzwerkverbindungen' here
[11:33] <yofel> which would  be 'Network connections'
[12:00] <eagles0513875> morning guys
[12:02] <yofel> hi eagles0513875
[13:14] <GuidoVb> Hi! I'm testing squid3 in Karmic Alpha2, i'm trying to stop  it with /etc/init.d/squid3 stop but it doesnt work... neither restart or start
[13:15] <GuidoVb> any suggestions?
[13:31] <gnomefreak> GuidoVb: it doesnt work because it not in /etc/init.d/ other than that im not sure other than kill* and restart it yourself
[14:05] <m_tadeu> hi everyone....I'm trying to connect to a wireless router using network manager kde frontend....the problem is, I can't. but settinf things in /etc/network/interfaces, I can connect easily
[14:08] <eagles0513875> m_tadeu: its normal to just have the loop back device
[14:09] <m_tadeu> eagles0513875: I know....but it's the only way for me to be talking here, right now....
[14:09] <m_tadeu> I think network manager or the kde frontend are not handling things good
[14:09] <eagles0513875> humm you connecting to this router via wired
[14:10] <eagles0513875> there is a bug with the plasma-widget-network-manager that it doesnt like connecting to wpa encrypted connections but if yoru wire you should be fine cuz for me ti works out of the box
[14:11] <m_tadeu> yep...problem is, here is impossible to get a wired connection....do you know the status or the bug# of that report?
[14:13] <m_tadeu> ah I think I found it :)
[14:19] <BluesKaj> howdy
[14:29] <oldude67> hello
[14:30] <eagles0513875> hey oldude67
[14:31] <oldude67> how is everyone today? got a few more updates but still no go with the new -3 kernel and my intel video..:(
[14:32] <eagles0513875> ouch :(
[14:32] <eagles0513875> not bad here recovering from jet lag
[14:33] <oldude67> ugh i hate time zones...lol
[14:33] <eagles0513875> tell me bout it
[14:33] <eagles0513875> been up since 245am central time
[14:33] <eagles0513875> im 7 hrs ahead of myself
[14:36] <oldude67> anyone know when the or how close the -4 kernel is to being released?
[15:30] <Lademord> Hi guys, I'm running karmic and today I am no longer able to synchronize my iPod with Banshee, as Banshee claims that the iPod is not mounted by HAL. I guess this has something to do with HAL being phased out?
[15:46] <ripps> Okay, something is up, I tend to get high cpu usage from mount.ntfs. Sometimes it spikes so badly it causes my computer to lock up for a period of time. What's deal?
[15:49] <ryann> ripps, are you using ext4?
[16:16] <alteregoa> high
[16:17] <pushrax> Hi.  Does anyone use Akregator here?  I wanted to know something about it's url's it forms
[16:18] <alteregoa> heh the koala should be on .31 i got usb 3
[16:21] <pushrax> Can someone answer a question on Akregator?  In my version it's sending a majority of urls through "http://feedproxy.google.com/"
[16:22] <pushrax> Personally I don't want anything to do with goggle bar maybe search from their webpage.
[17:17] <buzzmandt1> anyone here with intel graphics?
[17:18] <buzzmandt1> anyone here with intel graphics?
[17:19] <buzzmandt1> My intel graphics seem slow compared with the 30-10 kernel, anyone else seeing this?
[17:22] <itswhatev> i use xorg-edgers.. i just had a couple of freezings this morning.
[17:23] <itswhatev> i don't use 3d tho
[17:26] <buzzmandt1> I play neverwinter nights linux client and can't play it in the new kernel, very slow graphics.  just tried nexuiz and screen is jumbled and garbbled all over the place.  going to reboot into 30-10 kernel and try nexuiz
[17:29] <itswhatev> shrug.. trying to get great 3d performance off intel on linux would frustrate me enough to switch to nv
[17:30] <itswhatev> if i can just have compositing without freezing i'll be gold
[17:44] <tgpraveen2> hey now that empathy is default in karmic
[17:45] <tgpraveen2> does it work with messaging indicator?
[17:45] <tgpraveen2> and also the appending of new messages to notify-osd notifications?
[19:10] <bmw1000c_lol> ok it was the last time that i apt-get upgrade'd.
[19:10] <bmw1000c_lol> this time, gnome-panel doesn't work
[19:11] <billybigrigger> i lost my gnome-panel yesterday
[19:11] <billybigrigger> seems fixed now with updates
[19:11] <billybigrigger> for me anyway
[19:11] <bmw1000c_lol> i updated 1h ago and it broken gnome-panel
[19:11] <bmw1000c_lol> i updated one more time, let's see if it fixed
[19:12] <bmw1000c_lol> nop
[19:12] <billybigrigger> restart?
[19:12] <bmw1000c_lol> i did
[19:13] <billybigrigger> kill gnome-panel?
[19:13] <bmw1000c_lol> what's the point
[19:13] <billybigrigger> restart it?
[19:13] <billybigrigger> once you kill it, it should re-load automatically
[19:14] <bmw1000c_lol> 1 sec
[19:15] <bmw1000c_lol> killall gnome-panel
[19:15] <bmw1000c_lol> but no re-load
[19:15] <bmw1000c_lol> no automatic reload*
[19:15] <billybigrigger> then just load it
[19:15] <billybigrigger> gnome-panel
[19:16] <billybigrigger> killall worked here for me, it re-loaded on it's own
[19:16] <bmw1000c_lol> hmm alt f2 does nothing
[19:17] <Pici> alt-f2 is powered by gnome-panel, so if its not running, it cant be used.
[19:17] <billybigrigger> run it from a terminal?
[19:17] <bmw1000c_lol> oh, so how can i open gnome-panel
[19:17] <billybigrigger> $ gnome-panel
[19:18] <bmw1000c_lol> how do i open a terminal
[19:18] <billybigrigger> well i thought thats how you ran killall gnome-panle
[19:18] <billybigrigger> panel
[19:18] <yofel> bmw1000c_lol: rightlick on desktop-> create starter -> open gnome-panel
[19:18] <billybigrigger> but apparently, you use'd alt f2
[19:18] <bmw1000c_lol> if i use ctrl alt f1 to open gnome-panel, it says "cannot open display"
[19:19] <bmw1000c_lol> and that's how i killed it
[19:19] <bmw1000c_lol> thanks yofel
[19:19] <bmw1000c_lol> but that doesn't seem to work too
[19:19] <bmw1000c_lol> when i click create starter, screen just flickers and nothing happens
[19:19] <billybigrigger> ctrl-alt-f1 drops you to a term, with no x
[19:20] <billybigrigger> this is why i use a terminal in x, not alt-f2 :P
[19:20] <billybigrigger> ctrl-alt-f
[19:20] <billybigrigger> 1
[19:21] <billybigrigger> drop to your terminal, login
[19:21] <billybigrigger> $ sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[19:21] <billybigrigger> log back into x
[19:21] <bmw1000c_lol> yeah man i wish i could open a terminal too eheh
[19:21] <bmw1000c_lol> let me try that
[19:22] <eagles0513875> hey guys :)
[19:22] <billybigrigger> howdy eagles0513875
[19:23] <bmw1000c_lol> billybigrigger not working
[19:23] <eagles0513875> how goes it
[19:23] <billybigrigger> what isn't working?
[19:23] <Twigathy> ack...what's the name of the program which configures what happens when you plug in a USB stick or put a DVD in the the DVD drive?
[19:23] <billybigrigger> restarting gdm?
[19:23] <bmw1000c_lol> it restarted
[19:23] <Twigathy> I don't use gnome, and it's not on any of my xfce menus ...
[19:23] <bmw1000c_lol> but gnome-panel doesnt work yet
[19:23] <billybigrigger> bmw1000c_lol, your back in x?
[19:23] <bmw1000c_lol> yes
[19:24] <billybigrigger> go back to terminal $ sudo reboot now
[19:24] <JamalFanaian> Hi, I was thinking about installing karmic but I wanted to ask before I did that. Are there any issues with the fgrlx drivers?
[19:24] <billybigrigger> try it again
[19:24] <billybigrigger> somethings messed up
[19:24] <bmw1000c_lol> i restarted like 5 times or something
[19:24] <bmw1000c_lol> never happened before last update
[19:25] <o_portista17> hy, i have a problem with teamspeakm my microfone starts to work, but then, it stops, and on the "dmesg" i have the following error: http://pastebin.com/m50b2e6f4
[19:25] <billybigrigger> well all i can tell you is that i had that problem, and i just waited for new updates, then updated, restarted and it's fixed for me
[19:25] <bmw1000c_lol> where can i see the last update list?
[19:29] <itswhatev> seems as though not using xrandr for multi display fixes my intel freezes
[19:29] <hrab> Has anyone messed with grub2 and kubuntu 9.10 in here by any chance?
[19:44] <bmw1000c_lol> bug #400366
[19:44] <bmw1000c_lol> oh yeah
[19:54] <DanaG> JamalFanaian: yeah, there are some issues with fglrx... you have to patch the thing in /var/lib/dkms/fglrx/8.620/source/
[19:54] <DanaG> http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17731&page=21
[19:54] <DanaG> patch is there, by Kano.
[19:55] <JamalFanaian> DanaG: ahh thanks :)
[20:01] <maco> anyone have a db already setup in OOo Base?
[20:01] <maco> i made one last week and now when i start Base, it has "Recently used" all greyed-out
[21:08] <iPoRn> hello, im trying to use TeamSpeak, but i have a big problem, my microphone works, when i open TeamSpeak, but in less then a minute, the microphone stops to work..here's my dmesg with the error, that i can't understand: http://pastebin.com/m50b2e6f4
[21:21] <gletob> Hey I just upgraded to karmic and seem to be missing the Login Window option in Settings
[21:21] <SeveredCross> It's gone--gdm 2.26 does away with it.
[21:21] <SeveredCross> There's a way to change them, but I don't know how.
[21:22] <gletob> SeveredCross, Does away with themes and such?
[21:23] <gletob> Or just the method that the Login Window app managed GDM?
[21:24] <SeveredCross> It respects your gnome theme.
[21:24] <SeveredCross> I believe anyway.
[21:24] <gletob> That sucks.
[21:25] <gletob> I'm going to see if changing themes changes GDM.
[21:26] <gletob> Not from switching user maybe if I restart GDM...
[21:29] <billybigrigger> no
[21:29] <billybigrigger> changing themes does not affect gdm
[21:29] <billybigrigger> you have to use gconf to edit gdm iirc
[21:30] <gletob> Nope that didn't work either
[21:38] <DanaG> ugh, what the heck?   when I hold my volume-down key... my MUTE LED lights up.
[21:38] <DanaG> That's wrong.
[21:38] <DanaG> Minimum volume is NOT the same as asserting the MUTE pin.
[21:39] <yofel> DanaG: wasn't that to enforce power saving in alsa by turning the card off when on 0 volume?
[21:40] <yofel> hi BUGabundo
[21:40] <DanaG> Well, it's annoying -- I have a hardware mute LED that goes orange when that happens.
[21:41] <kklimonda> DanaG: when you set volume to 0 isn't it effectively muted anyway?
[21:41] <DanaG> It's still not the same.
[21:42] <kklimonda> why? I ask from user's perspective
[21:42] <DanaG> Because of the LED.
[21:42] <DanaG> I don't like holding the volume-down key and then having it go orange.
[21:42] <DanaG> It doesn't do that in Windows.
[21:43] <DanaG> OS X doesn't do that, either.
[21:43] <kklimonda> DanaG: but if you go all the way down to 0 sound is effectively muted so why shouldn't led indicate that?
[21:43] <DanaG> Well, I've seen some radios where minimum volume is NOT mute, for example.
[21:44] <DanaG> I want MUTE to be a separate action from VOLUME.
[21:44] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-applets/+bug/25513
[21:44] <DanaG> For me, that's actually the way it SHOULD be.
[21:44] <kklimonda> (I don't hear anything as soon as I set my volume to 50% but that's another issue ;) )
[21:45] <SeveredCross> kklimonda: PulseAudio's volume leveling is *horribly* broken.
[21:45] <SeveredCross> I think that's the fault of flat volumes.
[21:45] <BUGabundo> hey hey hey. duug gnineve
[21:45] <BUGabundo> who dare calls my name?
[21:45] <DanaG> I've already turned off flat volumes.
[21:45] <DanaG> Flat volumes are horribly, horribly confusing.
[21:45] <BUGabundo> hey yofel kklimonda DanaG SeveredCross
[21:45] <DanaG> Worst audio "feature" ever.
[21:46] <yofel> BUGabundo: me me:P
[21:46] <BUGabundo> so what hot today, beside me that is!
[21:46] <BUGabundo> hey akgraner!
[21:46] <kklimonda> hey BUGabundo
[21:46] <BUGabundo> still no irc cloak girl?
[21:46] <DanaG> Or at the very least, they should make a GCONF setting.
[21:46] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: miss speaking with you! busy?
[21:46] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: tired.. :)
[21:46] <akgraner> hey BUGabundo :-)
[21:47] <SeveredCross> DanaG: Yeah, they're terrible--they make my volume totally not representative of the actual output volume.
[21:47] <SeveredCross> Though, that said, I don't use PulseAUdio volume, because it doesn't have my LFE channel,
[21:48] <DanaG> Picture having a knob for brightness and a switch for power... turning the knob all the way to the left should NOT make the switch suddenly, magically toggle.
[21:48] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: join the boat
[21:49] <DanaG> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=180942
[21:49] <DanaG> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=333438
[21:51] <DanaG> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164925
[21:51] <kklimonda> DanaG: ok, I can see a point now
[21:51] <DanaG> Bonus points for the LED.
[21:52] <DanaG> It also reminds me of that horrid blink-on-network-traffic misfeature that appeared in iwl3945 and iwlagn a while ago.
[21:52] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: heh - if it wasn't for this weather I wouldn't feel like s^%$.. :/
[21:52] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: nice weather here
[21:52] <yofel> DanaG: blink on network traffic is how it's supposed to work...
[21:53] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: for last few days we have a "prestormy" weather - hot and stuffy..
[21:53] <DanaG> yeah, but it's godawful annoying.
[21:53] <DanaG> seeing BLUE ORANGE BLUE ORANGE BLUE ORANGE BLUE ORANGE BLUE ORANGE BLUE ORANGE BLUE ORANGE
[21:53] <yofel> DanaG: I know :P
[21:53] <DanaG> *ORANGE*   *BLUE*   *ORANGE*
[21:54] <kklimonda> ya, I couldn't get used to it for few days..
[21:54] <DanaG> Anyway, I found out how to kill that misfeature.
[21:54] <kklimonda> and mine led only blink green ;)
[21:54] <DanaG> http://blog.crossedstreams.com/?p=12
[21:54] <DanaG> Mine has orange for wifi-off and blue for wifi-on.
[21:55] <DanaG> http://blog.drinsama.de/erich/en/linux/2008052101-iwlwifi-blinking.html
[21:55] <DanaG> better fix.
[21:56] <BUGabundo> only my disk blue led blinks
[21:56] <BUGabundo> I don't even see it
[21:56] <yofel> Ahh, when we're already talking about annoying, the battery status of my eeePC 1000H is annoying: 100%-80%: green 80%-10%: *blink* green slowly 10%-0%: *blink* green fast
[21:56] <yofel> why should it blink at 80% charged ?!?
[21:57] <DanaG> I have a rather nifty secondary ORANGE hard-drive LED.
[21:57] <DanaG> Software-driven.  I have the disk-park thingy use that to show... disk parked.
[21:57] <yofel> hehe
[21:59] <BUGabundo> anyone complaingin from livecd?
[21:59] <BUGabundo> I still have one from Sunday that I know works
[21:59] <DanaG> Now, if only PA had the feature Win7 has: not only does it drop back when a device is removed... it also re-switches when default device is re-added.
[21:59] <BUGabundo> gonna put it on usb to reinstall
[21:59] <DanaG> Wish PA would do that.  Unplug USB headset, audio move to onboard... replug headset... IT MOVES BACK.
[21:59] <DanaG> PA doesn't do that.
[22:00] <BUGabundo> DanaG: it will once the promised HW and app profiles are ready
[22:06] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/399531
[22:07] <DanaG> yay,.
[22:08] <BUGabundo> I need that one
[22:08] <BUGabundo> it sucks!
[22:08] <BUGabundo> I always press the power button to enter the menu
[22:08] <BUGabundo> now it gets log out :(
[22:08] <BUGabundo> darn new GDM
[22:09] <dupondje> any eta on the fast-user-switching app ?
[22:10] <DanaG><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[22:10] <DanaG> interesting.
[22:10] <DanaG> Try reading the bug report itself.
[22:12] <DanaG> oh yeah, and try holding volume-down ... and you'll see notify-osd suck rather miserably.
[22:13] <BUGabundo> let me see
[22:13] <BUGabundo> other then a few blinks looks ok
[22:13] <DanaG> Look at your CPU usage.
[22:13] <DanaG> And hold it for a while, it'll flicker annoyingly.
[22:14] <DanaG> Not an ordinary blink... it's more like FLickErFlickERflICkerFLiCker
[22:14] <yofel> DanaG: Confirmed, not that it changes anything on the fact that notify-osd sucks :P
[22:15] <BUGabundo> eheheheh
[22:16] <DanaG> Now, if only I could get working keycodes > 255!
[22:19] <Sarvatt> man, network manager .8  no likey tethering
[22:22] <BUGabundo> Sarvatt: no??
[22:22] <BUGabundo> it should
[22:22] <BUGabundo> I did some small testing and it worked for me
[22:22] <DanaG> It also doesn't allow "Available to all users"
[22:22] <BUGabundo> Sarvatt: please let asac know
[22:22] <BUGabundo> yeah htat I've reported
[22:22] <Sarvatt> i think thats why i had problems, my old networks were saved without clicking that before
[22:23] <BUGabundo> yeah me too
[22:23] <BUGabundo> it was great
[22:23] <BUGabundo> wifi, 3g connected even before I logedin
[22:23] <Sarvatt> i share the 3g over wifi but i didnt save the wep key to my keychain before
[22:24] <Sarvatt> and theres 2 wep modes that make no sense
[22:24] <Sarvatt> WEP 40/128 bit and WEP 128 bit
[22:27] <BUGabundo> took me 1y to find out that NM was able to share wifi
[22:27] <BUGabundo> :(((
[22:27] <BUGabundo> I mean, share 3G over wifi
[22:30] <Sarvatt> i just do it through iptables and dnsmasq on my phone, just got done setting up a karmic install on it lol
[22:32] <BUGabundo> yeah dtchen told me that once!
[22:32] <BUGabundo> too much work! I need a ONE click way
[22:32] <BUGabundo> aha
[23:02] <billybigrigger_> Sarvatt: what phone?
[23:02] <BUGabundo> billybigrigger mobile phone
[23:03] <BUGabundo> to teherir with laptop
[23:03] <BUGabundo> darn hard word
[23:03] <billybigrigger_> what phone did you install karmic on?
[23:04] <Sarvatt> G1
[23:04] <billybigrigger_> who makes it?
[23:04] <Sarvatt> htc dream, t-mobile
[23:05] <BUGabundo> LOLOLOLOLOL
[23:05]  * BUGabundo offers two cups of BLACK coffee to billybigrigger
[23:05] <BUGabundo> wake up dude
[23:05] <Sarvatt> the android phone
[23:09] <billybigrigger_> oh
[23:09] <billybigrigger_> ya thanks for the coffee
[23:09] <billybigrigger_> 4pm here :P
[23:10] <billybigrigger_> htc dream, ahh don't get that here in canada
[23:11] <BUGabundo> still waiting for it here
[23:11] <BUGabundo> some ppl already got it
[23:11] <BUGabundo> not sure if I go for G3 or pre
[23:11] <billybigrigger_> oh i can get it with rogers
[23:12] <billybigrigger_> $149.99 on 3 yr contract
[23:12] <billybigrigger_> 99.99 my bad
[23:13] <Sarvatt> both are good phones, i like linux phones :)
[23:13] <BUGabundo> that's cheap billybigrigger
[23:13] <Sarvatt> theres a G2 coming out soon, (htc hero) probably can get the G1 cheap soon
[23:14] <billybigrigger_> Sarvatt: how does ubuntu run on it?
[23:14] <ryann> i want the touch pro 2 :(
[23:15] <BUGabundo> G2 is already out
[23:15] <BUGabundo> G3 will be soon
[23:15] <BUGabundo> in two months or so
[23:15] <billybigrigger_> must be a custom build of ubuntu for the g1 eh?
[23:15] <Sarvatt> nope its called debootstrap + chroot :)