[10:34] <average> cristian_c: the response headers are the ones starting with <
[10:34] <bekks> !jdk | arunkumar413
[10:34] <cristian_c> bekks, no, I can change, but it detected automatically
[10:34] <bekks> !java | arunkumar413
[10:34] <cristian_c> the encoding
[10:35] <VitoCorleone> Hi.
[10:35] <bekks> cristian_c: Then you dont even know how it gets saved since it overwrites your choice.
[10:35] <average> cristian_c: no it didn't detect
[10:35] <arunkumar413> jdk, jre they're confusing a lot
[10:36] <bekks> arunkumar413: Java Development Kit and Java Runtime Environment. JDK & JRE. Not that confusing.
[10:36] <average> arunkumar413: use the ppa repository http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[10:36] <average> arunkumar413: follow that stuff and you'll have jdk and jre real fast
[10:36] <average> cristian_c: did you try that curl command ?
[10:37] <mnemon> Sonderblade: if nothing else works, download the current version and dpkg --force install it(see dpkg --force-help, might break things if you have other packages installed that depend on the ppa version).
[10:38] <average> cristian_c: here's an alternative, if there is no Content-Encoding response header. Use enca which is an encoding analyzer. You can find it in the enca package in ubuntu. It will try to guess the encoding for you. It's not 100% .
[10:38] <cristian_c> average, yes i've tried that command
[10:38] <average> cristian_c: what did you get ?
 cristian_c: no it didn't detect
[10:39] <average> cristian_c: which command ? enca or curl ?
[10:39] <bekks> cristian_c: Whats the output of "file yourtextfile"?
[10:40] <cristian_c> If I click on Open in gedit, I find in the bottom: chars encoding, auto-recognition
[10:40] <Sonderblade> mnemon: sudo aptitude install libcairo2=1.10.2-6.1ubuntu3 did work, but it's weird that i had to add the version specifier
[10:41] <average> cristian_c: yeah, and gedit doesn't guess the encoding correctly, cause that's why it doesn't show up correctly because that's why you're here asking us stuff right ?
[10:41] <cristian_c> average, I've checked in the output of the curl command, but I don't find Content-Encoding in the header
[10:41] <mnemon> Sonderblade: probably didn't want to downgrade :P
[10:41] <bekks> cristian_c: Forget gedit for encoding detection.
[10:41] <average> gedit sucks
[10:42] <average> use enca to detect the encoding
[10:42] <cristian_c> bekks, I'll try with the 'file' command
[10:42] <bekks> cristian_c: Whats the output of "enca yourfilename" and "file yourfilename"?
[10:43] <average> cristian_c: are you planning on answering bekks question ?
[10:43] <Sonderblade> mnemon: i think it should have done that when it saw that i had removed the ppa
[10:43] <cristian_c> bekks, modulowordpad.txt: Non-ISO extended-ASCII text, with CRLF line terminators
[10:44] <bekks> cristian_c: So its not ISO-8859-1 at all.
[10:44] <average> :)
[10:44] <bekks> cristian_c: Basically it's some weird mess gedit produced.
[10:44] <cristian_c> bekks, I'll try with enca command
[10:44] <bekks> cristian_c: USe a sane editor, enca will not magically change the encoding.
[10:45] <cristian_c> I'm installing enca
[10:45] <average> great
[10:45] <bekks> finally.
[10:47] <cristian_c> enca: Language `it' is unknown or not supported.
[10:48] <arunkumar413> average: getting this error: http://pastebin.com/T6VDcdcP
[10:48] <average> cristian_c: can you write the url here ?
[10:48] <MonkeyDust> from apt-cache show enca: "Currently it supports Belarusian, Bulgarian, Croatian, Czech, Estonian, Hungarian, Latvian, Lithuanian, Polish, Russian, Slovak, Slovene, Ukrainian, Chinese, and some multibyte encodings independently on language."
[10:49] <linea> how i set rsyslog.conf
[10:49] <cristian_c> average, this is the url: http://spazioweb.inwind.it/flaccessori/moduli/modulowordpad.txt
[10:49] <average> arunkumar413:
[10:49] <average> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[10:49] <average> arun@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get -f install oracle-java7-installer
[10:49] <average> arunkumar413: ^^ so it told you to run without parameters, but you insisting running the same command with parameters
[10:49] <average> arunkumar413: you are stubborn
[10:49] <average> arunkumar413: sudo apt-get -f install
[10:49] <cristian_c> once downloaded the .txt file, I've to open it in a text editor correctly
[10:49] <average> arunkumar413: no parameters
[10:50] <linea> hi
[10:51] <arunkumar413> average: tried that but no use
[10:51] <average> arunkumar413: whatever
[10:51] <linea> i want  configure rsyslog.conf on ubuntu12.04
[10:51] <average> arunkumar413: that's where I install my jdk and jre and it works fine. if it doesn't work for you, tough luck (try with openjdk instead)
[10:53] <arunkumar413> average: without the parameter still getting the error: http://pastebin.com/Lfr2tQYa
[10:53] <average> arunkumar413: whatever, deal with it
[10:54] <average> arunkumar413: you still ran it with a parameter instead of no parameters as I told you
[10:54] <average> arunkumar413: I don't know what part you don't understand
[10:54] <average> arunkumar413: no parameters. no parameters. what is so hard to understand about that ?
[10:55] <arunkumar413> by parameter u mean to say -f or oracle-java7-installer
[10:55] <cristian_c> average, ok, I've solved. I've added an encoding in gedit. It was displayed correctly with Windows-1252, Occidental
[10:55] <average> arunkumar413: what do you think I mean to say ?
[10:56] <gguu> hi. i use gentoo, but i found a description on a ubuntu site and i hope the ubuntu people can help me better. i want to save my vhs video. i play the videos with vlc (http://pastebin.com/Z9AEmggW) and it works fine but i don't have any sound. in /dev/ i can not find "alsa" but i have a new mixer - mixer1. how can i start the vlc with this mixer? in other way , i  use this description http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/EasyCAP_DC60_USB_Audio_un
[10:56] <average> cristian_c: great, at least now you know it wasn't iso-8859-15
[10:56] <gguu> cat /proc/asound/cards and i dont have "1 controlle". what can i do? sorry for my english
[10:57] <arunkumar413> average: -f
[10:57] <average> gguu: chmod 777 all your sound devices
[10:57] <average> gguu: use gnome-sound-applet and go in there and select the correct device for output
[10:57] <gguu> average: what are my sound devices? mixer and mixer1?
[10:57] <average> gguu: make sure you can playback a video that has audio and you hear stuff on your speaker/headphones/whatever
[10:58] <average> arunkumar413: really ? -f ?
[10:58] <cristian_c> average, maybe you hate it, but the browser display correctly with iso-8859-1 and windows-1252, but not utf-8
[10:58] <cristian_c> all the three encodings are Occidental
[10:58] <cristian_c> :)
[10:58] <gguu> average: i am sure my vhs has audio but i don't know how to play the video that i hear audio
[10:59] <average> what's a vhs ? is that a format ?
[10:59] <average> i never heard that acronym before
[10:59] <cristian_c> the text editor displays correctly the file only with windows-1252
[10:59] <average> is it a video cassette player ?
[10:59] <gguu> yes, it is a video cassette player
[10:59]  * kdz pvts average
[11:00] <kdz> still not getting this rutorrent going
[11:00] <MonkeyDust> vhs, pure nostalgia :)
[11:00] <Guest40331> Hello Please, I want to help, I have a phone iphone and worked his mise a jour turns off after began working ignites image apple and goes off on this topic, and so the case, the solution please
[11:00] <MonkeyDust> !iphone | Guest40331 try here
[11:01] <gguu> average: and i use this description wiki.ubuntuusers.de/EasyCAP_DC60_USB_Audio_und_Videograbber my first problem ist the line "cat /proc/asound/cards". i don't have the "1 controlle"
[11:02] <arunkumar413> I've tried removing both  -f and oracle-java7-installer. its not working
[11:05] <average> gguu: that vhs is above me. I recommend you take it to a store and tell them to give you back a video like .mp4 , or .avi or .wmv or something that you can work with
[11:06] <average> gguu: unless your video is super-private and you don't want other people to see it...
[11:06] <gguu> average: i try to do it myself
[11:06] <gguu> with my grabber
[11:07] <arunkumar413> average: http://pastebin.com/wgQtkZ0c
[11:09] <average> arunkumar413: sudo aptitude update
[11:09] <average> arunkumar413: sudo aptitude install linux-generic
[11:09] <linea> how to edit rsyslog.conf
[11:09] <average> arunkumar413: sudo apt-get -f install
[11:09] <average> linea: with a text editor
[11:09] <linea> am using ubuntu12.04
[11:10] <average> linea: sudo nano /etc/rsyslog.conf
[11:10] <linea> i want configure rsyslog server
[11:10] <linea> i have central server and client server
[11:10] <average> linea: if you don't know how to open a text file, how are you going to manage configuring a log server I wonder...
[11:10] <MonkeyDust> linea  is that a 12.04 server? if yes, try #ubuntu-server -- also: choose one of these links https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ubuntu+rsyslog.conf
[11:12] <average> gguu: maybe try to connect the SCART of your VHS to some video input on your machine and the audio output of your VHS to the audio input of your machine
[11:12] <envykumar> hi
[11:12] <average> gguu: first try to play the sound in some way.. and make sure you can make the sound work
[11:12] <average> gguu: then try to get the video stream
[11:13] <average> gguu: once you have these two separate, maybe you can find a way to record both into a .mp4 or something using ffmpeg
[11:13] <average> gguu: although it would take lots of time until you would get it right. I would really take it to a store or something if you need it fast.
[11:14] <average> hey wessssssss , how goes it ? does it work now ?
[11:15] <wessssssss> Im at the partition screen
[11:15] <wessssssss> How should i set it up?
[11:15] <MonkeyDust> wessssssss  how much space is available?
[11:16] <wessssssss> 75 gb
[11:16] <gguu> average: yes i try but the german tutorial says the "cat /proc/asound/cards " must show me "1 controlle" but i don't have this.
[11:16] <MonkeyDust> wessssssss  75 gb free for use?
[11:17] <arunkumar413> average: http://pastebin.com/jDS7sHGq
[11:17] <wessssssss> Well i have all these small partitions that i want to combine
[11:17] <wessssssss> Before i had deleted all the smaller ones and it was a total of 75 gb of free space
[11:18] <MonkeyDust> wessssssss  in a terminal, paste this line     sudo apt-get install pastebinit;lsblk|pastebinit     then paste the url here
[11:18] <wessssssss> But i chickrened out and reverted to the old table
[11:19] <zztopless> Hi everybody.
[11:19] <envykumar> hi
[11:19] <MonkeyDust> zztopless  you know what zztop means?
[11:19] <average> wessssssss: just wipe out your non-ntfs and non-fat32 stuff and make 2 partitions. A big one of type ext4 where all your ubuntu OS will live and another one of type swap whch will be twice the size of your ram. then select the big one you created and go to the next step of the install
[11:19] <zztopless> I have a technical question: How to I set up Ubuntu (clean install) to make it do my christmas shopping that I may or may not have left to the last minute?
[11:19] <zztopless> It means I have legs... :P
[11:20] <zztopless> Should
[11:20] <wessssssss> Ok so is the big one primary or logical?
[11:20] <zztopless> sorry, wrong window
[11:21] <average> logical is ok too
[11:21] <average> logical
[11:21] <zztopless> illogical of course lol... should probably be in #ubuntu-offtopic now though :P
[11:21] <average> arunkumar413: your ubuntu install is broken. reinstall.
[11:22] <wessssssss> Mount point?
[11:22] <arunkumar413> average: just the kernal image or the entire os
[11:22] <average> wessssssss: yes, mount point is /
[11:22] <average> arunkumar413: wipe it out and reinstall. stop asking so many questions
[11:24] <linea> how i create per user logs in each directory using rsyslog  server
[11:24] <average> linea: read the manpage
[11:31] <randomcpp> does anyone here ever connected an old 2.5'' hd (5400rpm) through esata port? I need an advice :)
[11:31] <average> randomcpp: probably if you have connectors..
[11:31] <average> randomcpp: convertors...
[11:32] <average> adaptors
[11:32] <average> randomcpp: but why bother ?
[11:32] <randomcpp> average, I'd only need to know if a power supply is required or not..I'm not finding a real answers on internet..
[11:33] <randomcpp> I have to buy the right sata-esata cable
[11:33] <bekks> 2.5" devices dont need an external power source for esata.
[11:33] <wessssssss> Average, how should i mark the mount point of the swap drive?
[11:34] <wessssssss> Oh nmd
[11:34] <bekks> randomcpp: There is just one esata cable. The other is named esatap.
[11:34] <average> randomcpp: any hdd I've seen so far needs 2 things plugged into it : 1) power cable 2) data cable .  Only the external hdds are on usb and thus need only 1 cable.
[11:34] <average> wessssssss: swap has no mount point :)
[11:34] <bekks> average: you never dealt with esata, didnt you? :)
[11:34] <wessssssss> Ok
[11:34] <average> bekks: I haven't dealt with it. You are correct.
[11:35] <wessssssss> We are under way
[11:35] <randomcpp> bekks, it was an internal hd before..(inside a laptop)
[11:35] <average> bekks: I guess my assumption about 2 cables was wrong ?
[11:35] <average> wessssssss: awesome :) is it installing ?
[11:35] <wessssssss> Yes
[11:37] <randomcpp> bekks, do you think this could fit my needs http://amzn.to/1fxnqDl ?
[11:39] <average> randomcpp: have you checked what transfer rate you get and if you're comfortable with that ?
[11:41] <randomcpp> I don't really care about transfer rates, since I'll use it to store data (backups mostly)
[11:42] <randomcpp> (here's a photo of the hd http://imgur.com/RmeicR4 just in case)
[11:43] <bekks> randomcpp: That doesnt help. The connectors of the casing would be interesting.
[11:43] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:44] <randomcpp> http://i.imgur.com/VvRV7Ih.jpg
[11:44] <randomcpp> bekks, ^^^
[11:45] <bekks> Thats not the casing. Those are the connectors of the disk, which arent esata obviously.
[11:46] <hellyeah> hey
[11:46] <hellyeah> i wonder
[11:46] <hellyeah> do ubuntu download something without my command?
[11:46] <bekks> hellyeah: No..
[11:46] <knightshade> Hello
[11:46] <lotuspsychje> hellyeah: you suspect you have a rootkit?
[11:47] <hellyeah> i am not sure about rootkit
[11:47] <bekks> hellyeah: Except the updated package lists forthe ability of installing updated packages. Which is normal and not harmfull.
[11:47] <hellyeah> rootkit is like spyware or trojan?
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> !info rkhunter | hellyeah
[11:47] <randomcpp> bekks, so the cable I showed you before won't work?
[11:48] <bekks> randomcpp: It will work.
[11:48] <hellyeah> https://fixubuntu.com/ what do you think about this website
[11:48] <lotuspsychje> hellyeah: would be rare if this is your case, but its always good to stay cautious
[11:49] <lotuspsychje> hellyeah: maybe you can explain whats happening to your system/bandwith?
[11:49] <hellyeah> i dont know i am just asking about that
[11:49] <hellyeah> just this idea cam this to me recently
[11:50] <hellyeah> i have some limits on my internet
[11:51] <lotuspsychje> hellyeah: nobody can run sudo actions or commands without your password (if you didnt share pass)
[11:51] <lotuspsychje> hellyeah: but its possible even on ubuntu, that a system got an intrusion
[11:51] <bekks> lotuspsychje: Thats not true. You can configure sudo to run commands without a password.
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> bekks: on an updated system?
[11:52] <bekks> lotuspsychje: Sure. On every ubuntu you can do that.
[11:52] <randomcpp> bekks, ok I think I'll order that one in this case, thank you!
[11:52] <hellyeah> lotuspsychje:  what do you tyhink about this web site? https://fixubuntu.com/
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> bekks: so if there's a rootkit on the system, anything could happen?
[11:53] <hellyeah> i want to remove commercial package in ubuntu
[11:54] <hellyeah> how can i do that
[11:54] <mnemon> "commercial package" ?
[11:54] <lotuspsychje> so far for security then :p
[11:55] <hellyeah> meatmanek:  i dont know for exaple when i login facebook ubuntu ask me about login from system with opening some page
[11:55] <hellyeah> extra page*
[11:56] <lotuspsychje> bekks: got an url on how that works?
[11:56] <bekks> lotuspsychje: It has nothing to do with a root kit. It is a standard option for configuring your sudoers access.
[11:57] <lotuspsychje> bekks: does that mean if you can access the ubuntu machine, anyone can run sudo commands?
[11:57] <lotuspsychje> bekks: even other users then root?
[11:57] <bekks> lotuspsychje: It means: you _can_ configure your sudo access to run commands as root without entering a password.
[11:58] <lotuspsychje> right
[11:58] <bekks> lotuspsychje: That applies to other users, too, of course.
[11:58] <mnemon> hellyeah: to your original question: ubuntu has auto-update and by default it does some internet searches etc. when you use unity.
[11:58] <lotuspsychje> bekks: that sounds really scary :p
[11:58] <hellyeah> i dont want ubuntu download or update anything automatically
[11:59] <hellyeah> i want to close it up you have any suggestion
[12:00] <wessssss> Average, I'm good to go. Thanks so much for all your help!
[12:01] <alokyadav15> Hellyeah: disable it manually but its not a good practice
[12:02] <hellyeah> why?
[12:02] <hellyeah> just wondering
[12:03] <alokyadav15> Updates contain critical bug fixes some of the serious as remove code execution vulnerability fixes
[12:03] <SrRaven> Anyone here in the mood and got time to help me get either 1) ubuntu to work again (get black screen after logging in) or formatting it again
[12:03] <alokyadav15> *Remote
[12:05] <MonkeyDust> SrRaven  stil struggling with the mac?
[12:05] <SrRaven> yes
[12:05] <SrRaven> it worked perfectly till I restarted
[12:05] <SrRaven> now...all fcked
[12:06] <SrRaven> sorry about language,forgot its early :/
[12:07] <mnemon> hellyeah: remove most of the unity-lens-* stuff or there's a thing in the settings GUI somewhere to stop those from goin to the internets, can't remember what the auto-update package is but you could remove that too :P
[12:07] <hellyeah> the issue is i am staying in my sister's husband home
[12:08] <hellyeah> and when happen to the internet
[12:08] <hellyeah> he directly asked did you do any download :D:D:D
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> SrRaven: wich version have you been able to install on that mac?
[12:10] <SrRaven> I went with 13.10 as I was told to do
[12:10] <SrRaven> I guess it all went south with the nvidia drivers I installed
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> SrRaven: and it worked for you until?
[12:11] <lotuspsychje> SrRaven: maybe try recovermode and failsafeX
[12:11] <SrRaven> according to http://askubuntu.com/questions/375841/ubuntu-13-10-black-screen-after-logging-in-after-installing-nvidia-drivers its the nvidia
[12:11] <SrRaven> failsafeX wont boot
[12:11] <SrRaven> it just gets stuck
[12:11] <lotuspsychje> SrRaven: alot of users strugling with 13.10 and black reboots
[12:11] <dv-> i get a black screen if i try to log in with another user already logged in
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> SrRaven: i fixxed one machine with fixxing broken packages (from recoverymode once)
[12:12] <dv-> ^ with lightdm-gtk on oss radeon drivers. anyone know what that's about
[12:12] <MonkeyDust> SrRaven  try 12.04.3
[12:12] <SrRaven> that would mean a complete reinstall wouldnt it
[12:13] <Zeus007> awk -F ;  '{printf("%s",$3)}'    xx.txt         How can I replace 3 in this command by a variable?
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> SrRaven  "a complete reinstall" takes about 15 minutes here
[12:13] <SrRaven> :/
[12:13] <streulma> hello, what's best to run on my Macbook Pro Retina then? 13.04 or 13.10? 12.04 is to old and would not work.
[12:13] <SrRaven> have a link to the version?
[12:14] <Zeus007> I' freshman , can anybody help me?
[12:14] <SrRaven> it always gets stuck in "mountall: fsck /boot/efi [717] terminated with status 1^
[12:15] <MonkeyDust> SrRaven  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[12:15] <Kejran> Hello, Ubuntu doesn't recognize my WiFi adapter. When I do lsusb there is Fujitsu Siemens Smart Card 802.11bg wireless module [sis 163U] but I can't start it. Can someone please help me?
[12:15] <bekks> SrRaven: then use a livecd to fsck that filesytem.
[12:15] <average> Kejran: no
[12:16] <SrRaven> what a good live cd for taht?
[12:16] <bekks> average: thats not helpful, since you dont know wether other may help.
[12:16] <SrRaven> I dont have a cdr blank,so I need to do it via usb anyway
[12:16] <average> bekks: ok ok...
[12:16] <average> Kejran: hey
[12:16] <streulma> are there more problems with 13.10 then 13.04 ?
[12:16] <bekks> SrRaven: so just boot off your usb stick.
[12:16] <average> Kejran: have you tried using upper-right wifi button in gnome ?
[12:17] <average> Kejran: are you sure you have the drivers of your wifi installed ? (usually they come as kernel modules and you have to check they're loaded with lsmod )
[12:17] <MonkeyDust> streulma  now that's not a nice question
[12:18] <Kejran> average: I'm using Lubuntu on this old laptop. How can I check if I have drivers installed?
[12:18] <llutz> Zeus007: you may ask in #awk
[12:19] <bekks> Kejran: The only chance is using ndiswrapper to get that crap working. The best bet is to get another wifi usb dongle.
[12:19] <average> Kejran: check the specs of the laptop, see what the full name of the wifi card is, with the model and all that stuff
[12:19] <average> Kejran: see if it's supported by your kernel version (google it)
[12:19] <bekks> average: The full model is SIS 163U as he already stated.
[12:19] <Kejran> bekks: It's integrated in the laptop...
[12:19] <average> bekks: no, that's what lsusb tells him
[12:19] <bekks> Kejran: Then get another USB wifi dongle.
[12:19] <average> bekks: not necessarily the actual name of his wifi card
[12:19] <Kejran> average: I have the model name -> WLAN miniCard D2301
[12:19] <bekks> average: And thats what the chipset is, which is the only important information.
[12:20] <average> Kejran: you see ?it's miniCard D2301 , not SIS 163U
[12:20] <average> bekks: ^^
[12:20] <average> oh I see... my bad
[12:20] <bekks> average: Stop please if you have no clue about what you are talking.
[12:20] <Kejran> average: I told you the whole line from lsusb :)
[12:20] <average> bekks: hey stop jumping to conclusions
[12:21] <average> Kejran: ok great, have you checked if your vendor has drivers for this card ? have you looked for linux drivers for this ?
[12:21] <bekks> Kejran: You have a "miniCard D2301" which is using a SIS 163U chipset which is supported by ndiswrapper only. Best bet is to get another USB wifi dongle.
[12:21] <streulma> I see it is not the moment now to use Ubuntu on the PC if there are problems with nvidia?
[12:21] <bekks> average: Did you google? I did, and it revealed that it is supported by ndiswrapper only.
[12:21] <average> Kejran: for example, in my case I have ath9k which I believe is something called atheros, and I have the kernel module loaded and it works just fine
[12:21] <streulma> I see many problems with nvidia on the forums
[12:22] <average> bekks: I wasn't as fast, sorry
[12:22] <Kejran> average: I was looking on the FujitsuSiemens website but they don't provide *nix drivers
[12:22] <MonkeyDust> streulma  better simply ask your question
[12:22] <streulma> 12.04 should not run on my Mac, it is even 13.04 or 13.10, 13.04 runs better
[12:22] <average> bekks: but knowing that nidswrapper is a piece of sh*t, your suggestion for him to get another one is the best I think
[12:22] <SrRaven> alright, im trying to reinstall, but get into grub automatically
[12:22] <bekks> Kejran: Ndiswrapper is the only chance. Telling you for the third time now. However.
[12:22] <SrRaven> how do I tell grub to boot from USB ?
[12:22] <average> bekks: I mean I totally subscribe to that
[12:23] <streulma> so, my question is if 13.04 is is a good choice? MonkeyDust
[12:23] <MonkeyDust> streulma  then why not use 13.04, if it runs better?
[12:23] <average> Kejran: get a new wifi thing. ndiswrapper things are miserable
[12:23] <Kejran> bekks: How can I install/configure that? I'm newbie to Lubuntu/Ubuntu/Unix :)
[12:23] <streulma> yes, but when it is not supported anymore? Then I have to upgrade to 14.04 I think MonkeyDust
[12:24] <Kejran> average: I'm configuring this laptop for my friend, he just needs it for internet and maybe some pdf reading so I don't want him carrying external dongle just to have wifi...
[12:25] <average> Kejran: well I'm sorry to hear that my friend. I am trying to help you save a lot of time ..
[12:25] <average> Kejran: http://www.linux-drivers.org/network.html
[12:26] <Kejran> average: I know, I thank you for that
[12:27] <MonkeyDust> streulma  yes, 13.04 support stops in january
[12:27] <MonkeyDust> streulma  http://regmedia.co.uk/2013/03/24/ubuntu_release_cycle.jpg
[12:27] <BluesKaj> Kejran, sudo lshw -C network , look for "product" in the wifi section
[12:28] <average> Kejran: http://linuxhcl.com/browse/search?category=25
[12:29] <Kejran> BluesKaj: I get RTL-8139 (realtek) but that's wired connection... There is no Wireless at least as far as I can se
[12:29] <average> Kejran: I suggest spending your time with the lappy in a hardware store, trying some different wifi dongles/adaptors/whatever . It's much more productive IMHO
[12:29] <average> Kejran: I gave you two HCL(Hardware Compatibility List) for Linux
[12:29] <average> Kejran: see if any stores near you have any of those products perhaps
[12:30] <ikonia> why not use windows ?
[12:30] <average> ikonia: you're such a smart guy
[12:30] <ikonia> ?
[12:31] <llutz> people don't like simple solutions...
[12:32] <ikonia> if there are compatibility problems, using an os that supports seems worth considering to me
[12:32] <vmuser> Gallium was the open source driver, correct?
[12:32] <average> ikonia: you're very intelligent
[12:32] <ikonia> average: not sure why you keep randomly saying that
[12:32] <average> ikonia: then stop asking me why I'm saying that
[12:33] <Kejran> average: How can I see what's the exact model name of my wifi module?
[12:33] <bekks> Kejran: lsusb
[12:33] <ikonia> average: apologies, I don't understand why you keep stating I'm smart, when I'm just offering a possible solution that hadn't been considered
[12:33] <average> Kejran: look in your laptop specs on the vendor's website
[12:33] <average> ikonia: you're in #ubuntu, you genius
[12:33] <average> ikonia: why would someone in #ubuntu want winblows ?
[12:34] <ikonia> ??
[12:34] <ikonia> average: it's called windows - and they not be aware / have considered a simple solution, hence why I said "consider" using windows
[12:34] <average> ikonia: so what ?
[12:35] <SrRaven> anyone ? Using grub to boot from usb ?
[12:36] <average> ikonia: you're out of line and you're off-topic with your windows talk
[12:36] <ikonia> average: err no, that's not correct at all.
[12:36] <average> !op
[12:36] <Ben64> ha
[12:37] <llutz> hrhr, ymmd
[12:37] <ikonia> average: there is no need for that,
[12:37] <vmuser> average, to get proper multi monitor setup :P
[12:38] <sir-me> sir-me: hey am trying to rip a video mix into a mp3 help
[12:39] <average> sir-me: http://linuxpoison.blogspot.ro/2010/04/how-to-extract-audio-from-video-file.html
[12:40] <average> sir-me: you will require ffmpeg. so you'll have to install it.  sudo aptitude update ; sudo aptitude install ffmpeg
[12:40] <BluesKaj> !aptitude
[12:40] <average> BluesKaj: ok, I guess apt-get is better then
[12:41] <widad> i want something to toggle between win7 and ubuntu studio without shuting down my computer? can anyone help me?
[12:41] <BluesKaj> it's best to use apt-get , just to be safe , average
[12:42] <Ben64> widad: you can use virtualbox and have one running in a VM
[12:42] <BluesKaj> !VB
[12:42] <MonkeyDust> sir-me  winFF is nice ffmpeg frontend
[12:42] <imghost> !info VBox
[12:42] <widad> Ben64, i do't like V.machine it makes my computer going slow
[12:43] <dardevelin> suggestion on solving issue... when installing skype removes spotify and virtualbox which i need. sounds about multiarch but still pulls these libs
[12:43] <dardevelin> s/libs/packages [out]
[12:43] <Ben64> widad: well theres no other way without restarting
[12:44] <widad> Ben64, i think i saw a video on youtube that allows that but don't remember wich one
[12:44] <widad> Ben64, thanks for the help
[12:44] <bekks> imghost: Thats why you should download it from www.virtualbox.org
[12:45] <llutz> !info virtualbox
[12:45] <imghost> !virtualbox | bekks
[12:45] <imghost> bekks, testing only :)
[12:45] <bekks> imghost: Stop abusing ubottu.
[12:47] <imghost> bekks, you can install vbox from software centre
[12:48] <MonkeyDust> imghost  use /msg ubottu if you wnat to test factoids
[12:48] <bekks> imghost: I will never ever recommend that since the version shipped with ubuntu isnt official supported anymore. If you like to support it, do it - I wont.
[12:48] <bekks> imghost: If you want to get usable and sensible support for vbox - use the latest official version.
[12:48] <Ben64> same with wine
[12:49] <bekks> imghost: Just for your information: I am using vbox since version 1.3.4 - I do know what I am telling you about it.
[12:49] <ikonia> using ubuntu studio in virtual box is a bad idea,
[12:49] <imghost> bekks, did i ask you how to install vbox?
[12:49] <ikonia> the hardware interaction and need for RT kernel won't work well in a vm
[12:49] <bekks> imghost: Read the instructions on the downloads page at www.virtualbox.org
[12:50] <bekks> virtualization and RT kernel are pretty contrary use cases.
[12:50] <ikonia> right, so the guy who wants to dual boot may want to be aware of that and not use ubuntu studio i the vm container
[12:51] <ikonia> "in"
[12:53] <BluesKaj> I couldn't connect with wifi on VB , no matter what , so i dual booted instead
[12:54] <average> BluesKaj: you need guest additions in VBox
[12:54] <average> BluesKaj: or not
[12:54] <average> BluesKaj: did you set your network or something to get the connection shared with your VBox ?
[12:55] <average> BluesKaj: or .. what exactly do you mean by "couldn't connect with wifi on VB" ?
[12:55] <BluesKaj> average, yes , had them installed , average
[12:55] <average> BluesKaj: do you have a wifi dongle ?
[12:55] <average> BluesKaj: like those ones that have a limit of 2GB/month or something like that ?
[12:55] <average> BluesKaj: and they look like usb sticks
[12:56] <BluesKaj> nope , laptop here , lenovo G500, broadcom chip
[12:56] <ikonia> that's not a wifi dongle - that's a mobile broadband dongle
[12:57] <average> broadband dongle whatever..
[12:57] <average> forgot the name
[12:57] <ikonia> they use different technologies, so it's worth being clear when asking the questions
[12:58] <BluesKaj> no dongles of any kind here, average
[12:59] <llutz> BluesKaj: vbox clients normally use the network-connection of the host via a virtual network-device. why did you try to access the "real hardware wifi"?
[12:59] <Kejran> I try to use sudo ndisgtk and GUI show up, I add xx.inf and in console I get Fatal: Module ndiswrapper not found.
[12:59] <bekks> Kejran: you have to install ndiswrapper, too.
[13:00] <BluesKaj> llutz, real hardware wifi ?
[13:00] <Kejran> bekks: What's the name of the repository?
[13:00] <steverandy> how do you run command on boot as non-root user?
[13:00] <llutz> BluesKaj: " <BluesKaj> I couldn't connect with wifi on VB" <-
[13:01] <bekks> Kejran: I dont know.  Sorry, no help from me for ndiswrapper.
[13:01] <BluesKaj> because the W7 guest wouldn't connect , llutz
[13:01] <Kejran> bekks: Ok, thanks anyway
[13:02] <average> Kejran: use a vbox, install windows on it, make sure your wifi or whatever works inside your windows vbox, then you'll get the connection shared to your physical machine anyway, so you'll be able to use the network that way
[13:02] <average> Kejran: it's convoluted and effed-up
[13:03] <average> Kejran: if you want to avoid that, look through that thing I gave you, the Hardware Compatibility List for Linux devices , find a few, look them up on amazon and buy thos mofos and plug them in
[13:03] <ikonia> Kejran: is there a reason you don't just use a supported OS ?
[13:03] <average> and they'll work and you'll be happy
[13:04] <average> ikonia: dude, this is #ubuntu , it's not #choose-the-os-your-wifi-dongle-is-compatible-with
[13:04] <Artte14> Hey guys. If I install Ubuntu 13.10 (3.11 kernel). Is 3.11.2 or higher avaliable by Automatic Updates? (Because my mouse is supported from 3.11.2)
[13:04] <ikonia> average: I'm aware of the channel
[13:04] <average> ikonia: so ?!?!? what part don't you understand ?
[13:04] <Kejran> average: I'm configuring this laptop for a friend who isn't tech savvy so I wan't to make it as painless as possible for him. Possibly just boot up and open firefox... anything else will be painful for him ;)
[13:04] <Kejran> ikonia: Because he had win xp and the computer was really slow
[13:05] <bekks> Kejran: If you want to make it non-tech-savvy, then finally get another USB dongle.
[13:05] <ikonia> Kejran: if he's not tech savy surly using windows which fully supports his hardware seeems worth considering
[13:05] <ikonia> Kejran: if it's slow with XP - it's going to also struggle with later linux distributions too
[13:05] <average> I totally subscribe to what bekks said
[13:05] <bekks> Kejran: Or consider using Windows, since it supports his hardware-.

[13:06] <average> damnit, too late
[13:06] <average> whatever
[13:06] <Artte14> Hey guys. If I install Ubuntu 13.10 (3.11 kernel). Is 3.11.2 or higher avaliable by Automatic Updates? (Because my mouse is supported from 3.11.2)
[13:07] <average> Artte14: your mouse is too fancy, there's like tons of mice compatible with older kernels. Why you had to get the newest fanciest stuff ?
[13:07] <raj1991raj> hello
[13:07] <raj1991raj> what would you do, if you forget the name of an application in ubuntu or any other versin of linux,
[13:07] <bekks> average: Because he did.
[13:07] <bekks> average: Can you answer his question?
[13:07] <ikonia> Artte14: point releases don't happen - you'll keep the same kernel base version
[13:07] <average> bekks: yes I can
[13:08] <average> Artte14: http://linuxhcl.com/browse/search?category=17
[13:08] <ikonia> Artte14: you may want to look at some of the backports
[13:08] <ikonia> average: that is not an answer
[13:08] <average> ikonia: your mother is the answer
[13:08] <Artte14> average: I bought about a year ago gaming mouse. Today I find that "holtec" drivers was included in kernel 3.11.2. I tried LiveUSB ubuntu 14.04 beta and it works
[13:09] <ikonia> Artte14: that will be a bit frustrating for you
[13:09] <ikonia> Artte14: the mainline kernel (but aware of support restrictions) or back ports maybe your best hope
[13:09] <bekks> Artte14: you may use 13.10 with a mainline kernel until April, or use 14.04 with all its caveats.
[13:09] <Rashad> I am asking here because I don't know where it is better to ask.
[13:11] <Artte14> Ok, thanks for help :) ikonia, bekks and average
[13:14] <linea> I have one rsyslog server and 3 client server. i can send client log to remote server. But all the client logs are located in a single folder. So how can i  create 3 client directory in remote server and how to send their own logs to their own file. Am using ubuntu 12.04 server.
[13:16] <daharon> Hey guys, I'm trying to create an Upstart config for a service, but I don't understand where I am supposed to put the "stop" command.  It seems to only support starting a service.
[13:18] <linea> I have one rsyslog server and 3 client server. i can send client log to remote server. But all the client logs are located in a single folder. So how can i  create 3 client directory in remote server and how to send their own logs to their own file. Am using ubuntu 12.04 server.
[13:19] <llutz> linea: read http://www.rsyslog.com/storing-messages-from-a-remote-system-into-a-specific-file/  to get a basic idea how to do
[13:22] <andybrine> Afternoon everyone
[13:23] <andybrine> Quick question, I have searched on the internet and im unable to find a good answer and so thought I would ask here. Doe anyone know how to play auidible.com audio books on ubuntu?
[13:27] <BluesKaj> andybrine, what audio format?
[13:28] <andybrine> its downloaded as ".aa"
[13:29] <dufa> andybrine: I did some research on the same topic myself earlier, but was never able to play them on ubuntu
[13:30] <andybrine> thats a shame, thanks dufa
[13:30] <andybrine> would any wine applications work do you know?
[13:31] <dufa> andybrine: I guess that would be possible. Never really used wine myself, though.
[13:32] <andybrine> cool, thanks
[13:32] <andybrine> I will give it a go
[13:32] <belgianguy> there's a wiki about a lot of programs and how they run under Wine
[13:33] <belgianguy> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=category&iId=0&sAction=view&sTitle=Browse+Applications
[13:33] <MonkeyDust> there's also a !appdb webpage
[13:35] <BluesKaj> andybrine, think they're DRM'd . maybe libdvdcss2 from the videolan site may work
[13:36] <andybrine> excellent, thanks BluesKaj, I will download that
[13:44] <damel> Hey all...I have tried every possible way that I know of to change the brightness on my laptop, but nothing works. All the tutorials, everything seems to work (the files get updated with the right information) but the screen stays SUPER bright. Any ideas ?
[13:49] <hunk> hi every body how can I install xamp
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> hunk  use lamp
[13:50] <hunk> how can I use it by terminal or what
[13:51] <gsdhgcvertgrjh> WARNING       WARNING      WARNING,                       WARNING
[13:51] <gsdhgcvertgrjh> WARNING             WARNING              WARNING,     WARNING         WARNING
[13:51] <gsdhgcvertgrjh>  YOU MAY BE WATCHED
[13:51] <gsdhgcvertgrjh> YOU MAY BE WATCHED
[13:51] <gsdhgcvertgrjh>                 YOU MAY BE WATCHED
[13:51] <FloodBot1> gsdhgcvertgrjh: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:51] <MonkeyDust> hunk  use tasksel (task select)
[13:52] <hunk> thanks dude
[13:56] <yuvi> om
[13:56] <yuvi> bunny
[13:58] <MonkeyDust> yuvi  it works, we see you
[13:58] <hacker> hi
[13:59] <hacker> yuvi alo
[13:59] <yuvi> hi
[13:59] <yuvi> fucker bol
[14:00] <cfhowlett> !language|yuvi,
[14:01] <yuvi> bunny
[14:02] <marianne> hello...currently running 12.04 ... I am wondering if there is a way to network to my older iMAC?
[14:05] <MonkeyDust> marianne  you mean share a connection?
[14:06] <marianne> MonkeyDust: I want to be able to transfer files.... want to decommission my iMac...
[14:08] <marianne> MonkeyDust: They are set up for internet with my gateway, but they can't 'see' each other
[14:09] <MonkeyDust> marianne  are they both in the same network?
[14:09] <Lambda2> hello
[14:10] <Lambda2> How can I download a file with "wget" when the link is like website/download
[14:10] <marianne> MonkeyDust: No, I don't think so, up until now they have their own connections to the internet...is there a doc out there that can step me through it? I haven't found anything revelant yet...
[14:10] <Lambda2> so not website.tld/file.zip, more like website.tld/downloadfile
[14:11] <helheim> ok ... so how do i make a command (like cgminer) directory independent?
[14:11] <helheim> as in typing ./cgminer and start mining anywhere
[14:11] <MonkeyDust> marianne  they do not use the same gateway? if they do, they are in the same network
[14:11] <Lambda2> Is that even possible with wget?
[14:11] <helheim> in any directory, that is
[14:12] <marianne> MonkeyDust: Ok, Same gateway,
[14:13] <bekks> helheim: you cant. ./ designates the current directory. If "cgminer" isnt found in the current directory, "./cgminer" will not work.
[14:13] <llutz> helheim: add the directory cgminer is in to your $PATH
[14:13] <MonkeyDust> marianne  and what are the local ip address of both machines?
[14:13] <bekks> llutz: That will not make "./cgminer" work.
[14:13] <llutz> bekks: true,
[14:13] <llutz> helheim: ommit the ./ then
[14:13] <helheim> ahhh....
[14:13] <helheim> ok i get it
[14:14] <marianne> MonkeyDust: ok, it is the same... they both start with 192.168.0.x
[14:14] <MonkeyDust> marianne  good... and can they ping each other?
[14:15] <marianne> MonkeyDust: yes... damn BRB, work calls
[14:15] <crusoexia> hello, shall i put my shell scripts in /usr/local/bin? or create a bin/ directory under my home and put my scripts here?
[14:15] <helheim> thanks for the help
[14:15] <helheim> uhmmm... 1 moar thing: /cgminer: --scrypt: unrecognized option
[14:16] <helheim> this was new :(
[14:16] <helheim> its supposed to run scrypt
[14:16] <helheim> dont know if this is the place to ask
[14:19] <saadin> hi, I can't add any ppa, not from command line nor from Software&Updates. from commandline it just says Cannod add PPA and from Sofware&Updates when I add a ppa nothings happens.
[14:19] <saadin> I have 13.10 and based on what I've learned from searching about my problem I think I should mention I'm using dual boot
[14:20] <blurkis> What is the command you are running to add a ppa from the terminal?
[14:20] <blurkis> saadin, ^^
[14:21] <saadin> blurkis: for example for adding wine repo:
[14:21] <saadin> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa
[14:21] <helheim> ahhh
[14:21] <helheim> never mind
[14:21] <blurkis> saadin, that you are dualbooting should not have anything to do with a ppa.
[14:22] <Sirv> hi
[14:22] <uri_> hi
[14:23] <uri_> good morning
[14:23] <saadin> blurkis: yeah it seems so,but  i searched for my problem and the only answer was dualbooting causes the problem
[14:23] <Sirv> its that really flood bots?
[14:23] <uri_> i have a problem with shockwave flash player on chromium, in ubuntu, allways i enter places with flash like youtube, allway crash
[14:24] <bekks> Sirv: yes.
[14:24] <blurkis> saadin, well, adding the repository is just about putting that line in a specific file.  Has nothing to do with dualbooting.
[14:24] <uri_> also in mozzilla
[14:24] <uri_> in chrome it run well
[14:24] <uri_> flash player
[14:24] <blurkis> saadin, seems strange its not working for you.
[14:25] <blurkis> Whats the errormessages? do you get to the part where it states information about the ppa and asks you to press enter? if not,  do you have network on the computer?
[14:25] <uri_> i am runnin ubuntu 10.04
[14:25] <bekks> uri_: As a desktop?
[14:25] <cfhowlett> uri_, on desktop or server?  desktop has reached end of life
[14:26] <uri_> desktop
[14:26] <bekks> Sirv: I dont want your queries, stop them.
[14:26] <cfhowlett> uri_, then you're running an unsupported version.  time to upgrade.  I suggest 12.04 as it is Long Term Support
[14:27] <uri_> i have 1 gb free hd space it will be enoguh to update ?
[14:27] <saadin> blurkis: no it doesn't get to that part and yes i have network beacause apt-get install works. it just prints this (even with -m option):
[14:27] <saadin> Cannot add PPA: 'ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa'.
[14:27] <saadin> Please check that the PPA name or format is correct.
[14:27] <cfhowlett> uri_, lubuntu will fit in that space.
[14:27] <saturnmond6> hallo
[14:28] <cfhowlett> uri_, I'm guessing you have an older machine or one with low specifications?
[14:28] <andybrine> ok, im not a fan of itunes at all. I just want to use it to play audiobooks on ubuntu. Does anyone know how to install iTunes on ubuntu?
[14:28] <cfhowlett> !itunes|andybrine, many have asked.  most have failed
[14:29] <cfhowlett> andybrine, it may be possible to run a very, very old version of itunes in wine ...
[14:29] <uri_> yes its old, a notebook
[14:29] <cfhowlett> andybrine, with very limited capabilities.  frankly, not with the effort IMHO
[14:29] <andybrine> thanks, much appreciated
[14:30] <andybrine> do you happen to know any applications that are able to run audible audiobooks?
[14:31] <cfhowlett> andybrine, audible mp3's?
[14:31] <andybrine> no, they are .aa files
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> andybrine  the factoid suggests !players
[14:32] <cfhowlett> !players
[14:32] <uri_> i am updating to version 12.04
[14:32] <uri_> i think it will be ok
[14:32] <uri_> 12.04.03 ?
[14:32] <yeats> andybrine: old question thread, but I'd imagine little has changed: http://askubuntu.com/questions/16918/how-to-listen-to-audible-files
[14:32] <cfhowlett> andybrine, never played one, but install ubuntu-restricted-extras and see  what mplayer can do ...
[14:32] <cfhowlett> uri_, lubuntu or xubunut?  both are much lighter than ubuntu
[14:33] <yeats> andybrine: mostly boils down to "contact Audible and let them know you'd like to see a Linux client" :-/
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> andybrine  paste a link to a .aa file, so we can try
[14:33] <uri_> ive never heard of lubuntu
[14:33] <cfhowlett> !lubuntu
[14:33] <cfhowlett> andybrine, what monkeydust said.
[14:33] <uri_> i dont like very much unity
[14:34] <cfhowlett> uri_, no unity in lubuntu
[14:34] <andybrine> thanks guys
[14:34] <andybrine> here is a link to the file: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B687AFZZOf-seGJOU0EzS1E1cDA/edit?usp=sharing
[14:34] <cfhowlett> andybrine, no google drive for me: China.
[14:35] <andybrine> lol, damn it. Let me put it on ubuntu one
[14:35] <blurkis> saadin, are you using latest version of ubuntu? perhaps it not working for your version?
[14:36] <saadin> blurkis: i'm using 13.10
[14:37] <andybrine> it may take some time but it will be ready soon
[14:38] <cfhowlett> andybrine, no worries.  make it a small file ...
[14:38] <andybrine> its 50mb but they are all audio books. Thats the smallest I have
[14:38] <cfhowlett> andybrine, that'll work ...
[14:38] <andybrine> cheers
[14:40] <uri_> i have to free 2 gb more of space to update system online
[14:40] <uri_> it says it require 3gb
[14:40] <killer> hey , i use gnome with ubuntu 12.04 and i changed the cross,minimize bar to right hand side but whenever i switch user , it is again is on left side
[14:40] <cfhowlett> andybrine, ffmpeg says it'll play .aac files which are clearly NOT your .aa
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> andybrine  same here, but even windows xp (in virtual box) can't read the .aa file
[14:41] <cfhowlett> uri_, better to download 12.04 via torrent and clean install
[14:42] <andybrine> thats shocking
[14:42] <andybrine> audible dont seem to like to support linux
[14:42] <cfhowlett> andybrine, audible seems to be using a closed and proprietary codec
[14:42] <cfhowlett> ^^^ what you said
[14:43] <andybrine> yeah
[14:43] <andybrine> the funny thing is that you can listen to your audio files on android
[14:43] <andybrine> well audible audiobooks
[14:44] <cfhowlett> andybrine, gotta have the app, though, right?
[14:44] <andybrine> yeah, there is an app for it
[14:44] <andybrine> here is the audio file:http://ubuntuone.com/76DNY8aUCHxYeVb4WXhPlI
[14:45] <llutz_> andybrine: audible aa is drm-crippled mp3 inside a proprietary container. hard to play without a audible-licensed player
[14:45] <BluesKaj> andybrine, did you try vlc , it plays most audio files with it's embedded decoders
[14:45] <cfhowlett> andybrine, I suspect the codec is in the app.  We'll see. downloading your .aa file now
[14:46] <andybrine> yeah, i tried vlc and it wouldnt play it :(
[14:46] <cfhowlett> andybrine, I'd say that's a sign ...
[14:47] <andybrine> yeah, i know what you mean
[14:47] <andybrine> its just soo frustrating
[14:47] <andybrine> I have audiobooks that I have paid for and im not able to listen to them
[14:47] <cfhowlett> andybrine, let audible know of your discontent ...
[14:48] <llutz_> cfhowlett: they know about it and they ignore it
[14:48] <BluesKaj> is aa a proprietary codec,? seems unfamiliar to me
[14:48] <llutz_> BluesKaj: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audible.com
[14:48] <andybrine> yeah, audible are really not good
[14:49] <llutz_> stay away from any DRM thingy (jm2c)
[14:50] <BluesKaj> so libdvdcss2 didn't touch it , I suppose
[14:50] <llutz_> BluesKaj: css is dvd-video
[14:50] <llutz_> for*
[14:50] <andybrine> maybe I could run android apps on ubuntu
[14:50] <cfhowlett> andybrine, no choice but to avoid DRM.  I'm reading the wiki on the DRM and seems that you're unlikely to find a linux work around as it's locked down pretty tightly
[14:50] <BluesKaj> yeah , but it strips drm, from the file
[14:50] <andybrine> dont know how to do that though
[14:50] <andybrine> lol
[14:51] <andybrine> ok, thanks for helping me out
[14:51] <andybrine> much appreciated
[14:51] <cfhowlett> http://linuxtidbits.wordpress.com/2011/09/21/audible-com-and-linux-arghh/
[14:52] <zykotick9> BluesKaj: ahhh libdvdcss2 doesn't remove DRM, it just plays CSS encoded DVDs
[14:53] <andybrine> that link looks like a lot of work
[14:53] <andybrine> lol
[14:55] <nod> w
[14:56] <crusoexia> hello
[14:57] <unicornjedi> #ubuntukylin
[14:57] <cfhowlett> andybrine, you probably can run and android app via ubuntu - virtual box or android sdk IIRC...whether or not that will get your audible up is nother question
[14:57] <cfhowlett> unicornjedi, what's is your ubuntukylin question?
[14:57] <andybrine> yeah, no probs
[14:58] <andybrine> I will have to give it a miss and ask for a refund
[14:58] <unicornjedi> cfhowlett, oh, I was trying to '/join #ubuntukylin' to see if there were chinese people talking in there
[14:58] <cfhowlett> andybrine, best of luck.
[14:58] <unicornjedi> cfhowlett, it would have been a cultural experience
[14:58] <andybrine> cheers, thanks for your help
[14:59] <cfhowlett> unicornjedi, sadly, I've yet to see that channel actually being used.  they're all over on youku/qq/or some other "u" sounding network.
[14:59] <unicornjedi> cfhowlett, interesssting
[14:59] <marianne> MonkeyDust: you there?
[15:00] <cfhowlett> unicornjedi, 13.10 lists several support options, but as I don't read/write or speak Mandarin, ...
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> marianne  no :p
[15:01] <moushira> Hello, anyone around using Draftsight?
[15:01] <fedgalaxy> Hello, how can I know who is scanning my port by listenning to my eth0?
[15:02] <marianne> MonkeyDust: alas end user and their random clicking... anyway, both the iMAC and the ubuntu can see each other, I actually use software ti share the keyboard and mouse
[15:02] <MonkeyDust> marianne  synergy?
[15:02] <marianne> MonkeyDust: bingo!
[15:03] <marianne> MonkeyDust: really just want to know how to transfer files...i guess
[15:03] <zx42o> Hello, I am having problems installing Ubuntu Desktop 12.04 LTS to a new computer, I am continuously receiving a pop-up message "Wired network - Disconnected you are now offline"
[15:03] <MonkeyDust> marianne  nfs and ssh come to mind
[15:04] <cfhowlett> zx42o, you can install without network access
[15:04] <Sonderblade> zx42o: do you know what brand your wifi card is?
[15:04] <marianne> MonkeyDust: i tried ssh and, yeah, probably my error caused it to not work
[15:04] <zx42o> It has finished the install process and still unable to connect to the internet via eth0
[15:04] <zx42o> Its an onboard lan realtek gbe
[15:05] <unicornjedi> zx42o, try 'sudo restart network-manager'
[15:05] <cfhowlett> zx42o, did you reboot?
[15:05] <MonkeyDust> marianne  try nfs https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[15:05] <zx42o> ok.. yes i have rebooted, i have installed and reinstalled several times over the past 24 hours
[15:05] <marianne> MonkeyDust: awesome... thank you!
[15:06] <zx42o> it hangs on connecting
[15:06] <cfhowlett> zx42o, stop reinstalling.  work on confiiguring the networking
[15:06] <zx42o> ok
[15:06] <cfhowlett> zx42o, laptop?  try a different network?
[15:06] <marianne> MonkeyDust: I'll RTFM and then try it... I'll be back tomorrow after I try it... might take a while since I'm on call today  :-(
[15:06] <zx42o> no its a desktop computer
[15:07] <unicornjedi> zx42o, what type of computer is it?
[15:07] <MonkeyDust> marianne  or look for a less technical NFS tutorial
[15:07] <zx42o> i have located the drivers online and have installed them but still getting same message
[15:07] <zx42o> GA-970A-UD3P motherboard
[15:07] <marianne> MonkeyDust: technical is ok, just probably need to read through it all first
[15:07] <atma111> I have a problem, I have a proxy server "ubuntu server squid3" the pc's local network have internet but the online games do not work (dota2 , wow, aion, starcraft2)
[15:08] <cfhowlett> !server
[15:08] <zx42o> results of lshw -c network :
[15:08] <zx42o> desc: Ethernet interface
[15:08] <zx42o> product: RTL81111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller
[15:08] <linea> koooooiii
[15:08] <zx42o> vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
[15:08] <zx42o> physical id: 0
[15:09] <zx42o> bus info: pci@0000:05:00.0
[15:09] <linea> hahahahahah
[15:09] <zx42o> logical name: eth0
[15:09] <zx42o> version: 06
[15:09] <unicornjedi> zx42o, also, during the install process press alt+ctrl+f1 or f2 or f3 or f4 or f5 or f6 when it hangs. You should have a terminal thats showing the working processes
[15:09] <zx42o> serial 74:d4:35:02:94:21
[15:09] <linea> poda patti
[15:09] <zx42o> size: 10M bit/s
[15:09] <atma111> pls help!! I have a problem, I have a proxy server "ubuntu server squid3" the pc's local network have internet but the online games do not work (dota2 , wow, aion, starcraft2)
[15:10] <zx42o> ok
[15:10] <Sonderblade> zx42o: try sudo dhclient or sudo dhclient3
[15:10] <akyra_77> ciao
[15:10] <akyra_77> list
[15:10] <fedgalaxy> Greetings, how to check who's scanning my ports in Ubuntu?
[15:10] <unicornjedi> atma11, for starcraft2 have you run 'sudo sysctl kernel.yama.ptrace_scope=0' before playing?
[15:11] <zx42o> ok, both sudo dhclient & sudo dhclient3 in terminal do not provide any response
[15:12] <llutz> zx42o: what does "lspci  -s 05:00 -k" say?
[15:12] <zx42o> when "sudo restart network-manager" response is "network-manager start/running, process 2189"
[15:12] <atma111> not the local pc's has windows7
[15:12] <MonkeyDust> fedgalaxy  try wireshark... sharkwire... i forget the exact name
[15:12] <Sonderblade> zx42o: they only output to /var/log/syslog, if the command doesn't say anything it means your network is now working
[15:13] <zx42o> 05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL81111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 06)  Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology GA-EP45-DS5 Motherboard  Kernel driver in use: r8169  Kernel modules: r8169
[15:13] <_savior_> hi guys
[15:13] <_savior_> does anybody know what package is responsible for automount?
[15:14] <llutz> zx42o: does "ifconfig -a" list any ethX ifaces?
[15:14] <zx42o> ok i attempted to open firefox still not connected and also still getting "wired connection you are now disconnected" pop up
[15:14] <_savior_> I want to update my bug report so that the maintainers receive
[15:14] <fedgalaxy> MonkeyDust, wireshark doesnt work for wire connection, Only wireless, wifi
[15:14] <zx42o> yes eth0
[15:15] <zx42o> Link encap:ehternet
[15:15] <zx42o> HWaddr 74:d4:35:02:94:21
[15:15] <llutz> fedgalaxy: nonsense
[15:15] <zx42o> inet6 addr: fe80:76d4:35ff:f ...
[15:15] <zx42o> there is no inet address
[15:15] <llutz> zx42o: sudo ifconfig eth0 up && sudo dhclient eth0
[15:15] <MonkeyDust> _savior_  in dconf-editor: org.gnome.desktop.media-handling
[15:16] <fedgalaxy> llutz, give me a tutorial, at least something I can start with
[15:16] <llutz> zx42o: assuming you have a dhcp-server running in network
[15:16] <fedgalaxy> to check who's scannign my ports
[15:16] <zx42o> yes
[15:16] <llutz> fedgalaxy: http://www.wireshark.org/docs/wsug_html_chunked/
[15:16] <crocket> Does ubuntu have a twitter or facebook client?
[15:16] <zx42o> ok it is "doing something" it is blinking cursor with no response
[15:17] <_savior_> MonkeyDust: thanks, but I need the name of the package that does that for the bug report
[15:17] <llutz> zx42o: you checked your network-cable? it's ok, LED on?
[15:18] <_savior_> MonkeyDust: I have checked dconf before, and it supposed to be on
[15:18] <zx42o> yes its a 10mbit connection, the yellow led blinks
[15:18] <zx42o> i have switched cables as well
[15:19] <llutz> zx42o: press ctrl-c to exit dhclient. what is your routers IP, your localnet ip-range? 192.168.x.x
[15:19] <zx42o> i am behind a switch, however the problem exists without the switch as well
[15:20] <atma111> I have a problem, I have a proxy server "ubuntu server squid3" the pc's local network(windows7) have internet but the online games do not work (dota2 , wow, aion, starcraft2). What is the problem?
[15:20] <zx42o> <IP_ADDRESS>'s
[15:20] <zx42o> <IP_ADDRESS> is this computers local ip
[15:20] <Sonderblade> zx42o: what does ip addr show eth0 | head -n 1 output?
[15:21] <zx42o> 2: eth0 <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP qlen 1000
[15:22] <atma111> !ping
[15:22] <llutz> zx42o: sudo ip addr add <IP_ADDRESS>/24 dev eth0
[15:23] <llutz> zx42o: sudo ip route add <IP_ADDRESS>/24 dev eth0
[15:23] <llutz> zx42o: sudo ip route add default via <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:23] <llutz> zx42o: assuming 0.100 is your gateway/router
[15:24] <zx42o> sudo iproute add <IP_ADDRESS>/24 dev eth0 -  response is RTNETLINK answers: File exists
[15:24] <zx42o> continue?
[15:25] <llutz> zx42o: 1st: sudo ip set dev eth0 down &&  sudo ip set dev eth0 up
[15:25] <llutz> zx42o: 1st: sudo ip link set dev eth0 down &&  sudo ip link set dev eth0 up              sry
[15:26] <felera_85> Hello. Can somebody read my message?
[15:26] <zx42o> ok
[15:27] <zx42o> sudo ip route add default via <IP_ADDRESS> response is RTNETLINK answers: Network is unreachable
[15:27] <felera_85> Hello. Can somebody read my message?
[15:28] <zykotick9> felera_85: yes
[15:28] <llutz> felera_85: yes
[15:28] <hacker> hi somebody tell mi about voice chatting with xchat
[15:29] <felera_85> ok. thank you.
[15:31] <llutz> zx42o: shouldn't happen, it sounds like driver-issues. you might try to update your net-driver with the one from realtek, might be tricky without internet ...
[15:33] <zx42o> ok
[15:33] <Sonderblade> zx42o: run sudo dhclient -d eth0 and paste what it outputs somewhere, preferably after a clean reboot
[15:33] <ehnde> is it ok to have a bash one liner as a cron job? or should i execute it as a script instead?
[15:33] <zx42o> ok rebooting
[15:34] <llutz> ehnde: it's ok
[15:34] <kkkkkkk> hi alll, I am using ubuntu 12.04 LTS and i want to connect to internet using data cable , from my samsung mobile, when i connect data cable, mobile broadband connection shows up in the modem manager, but doesn't connect, it registers network and then disconnected, after then modem detected in network manager get out of list, i need to replug data cable, this is very annoying and data cable and mobile is working nicely in windowss
[15:34] <felera_85> We will open a software company with my partner. i am thinking to use open source softwares at our company. But i am not sure if they are legal or not. For example it is possible to use xwiki and libreoffice which are LGPL?
[15:34] <kkkkkkk> i am from the same mobile Online now, but from windows, this is the only source of internet to me
[15:34] <ehnde> great, thanks llutz
[15:35] <hacker> hi
[15:35] <kkkkkkk> i also tried to connect using bluetooth, but when i created DUN and click to connection created to  connect in network manager, system logout and kernel panic occurs,
[15:36] <kkkkkkk> Ubuntu is not doing its basic tasks. It is getting worst day by day
[15:37] <zx42o> i cannot paste the response however I will type it
[15:38] <kkkkkkk> ubuntu is concerend only with polished looks, not on performance and stability
[15:38] <kkkkkkk> this is my view
[15:38] <zx42o> Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client 4.1-ESV-R4
[15:38] <zx42o> Copyright 2004-2011 Internet Systems Consortium.
[15:38] <zx42o> All rights reserved.
[15:38] <zx42o> For info, please visit https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/
[15:39] <zx42o> Listening on LPF/eth0/74:d4:35:02:94:21
[15:39] <zx42o> Sending on LPF/eth0/74:d4:35:02:94:21
[15:39] <zx42o> Sending on Socket/fallback
[15:39] <zx42o> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 th 255.255.255. port 67 interval 3
[15:40] <zx42o> " ... interval 7
[15:40] <zx42o> " ... internval 14
[15:40] <zx42o> " ... interval 9
[15:40] <zx42o> " ... interval 20
[15:40] <zx42o> " ... interval 14
[15:40] <zx42o> interval 15
[15:40] <zx42o> interval 15
[15:40] <zx42o> interval 18
[15:40] <FloodBot1> zx42o: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:41] <zx42o> interval 21, 21, 18, 13, 20
[15:41] <zx42o> 11
[15:41] <Sonderblade> zx42o: seem to me that your network card is fine but there is no dhcp server on your lan
[15:42] <knightshade> Hello
[15:42] <llutz> Sonderblade: in that case the manual ip-setting before should have worked and not given the  " RTNETLINK answers: Network is unreachable"
[15:43] <zx42o> ok i am behind a switch, i have tried without switch however the same results, i can try without switch again however i must move into the other room
[15:43] <zx42o> let me directly into router
[15:43] <zx42o> brb
[15:44] <Sonderblade> llutz: yes if the commands where typed in exactly as you wrote them
[15:46] <zx42o> one issue previously mentioned last night in this chat, the identity of ethernet lan is realtek r8168, lshw -c network reported using driver=r8169, i downloaded appropriate r8168 drivers and manually installed them (to the best of my knowledge at least) however the problem persisted, i have since done a fresh install
[15:47] <linux_dr> I'm trying to use Saucy Salamander within vagrant (with virtual box as the vm provider)... Vagrant appears to be getting ahold of something that it thinks is ssh before OpenSSH is actually functioning properly... when is SSH supposed to be started in Saucy, and by who? is it possible it answers connections before the system is in a stable state? (The first error I get is that sh can't find lsb_release)
[15:50] <atma111> need help, I have a proxy server "ubuntu server squid3" the pc's local network(windows7) have internet but the online games do not work (dota2 , wow, aion, starcraft2). What is the problem?
[15:50] <linux_dr> Ubuntu has apparently switched from inits to something called upstart... where is this configured? could it be starting ssh before / is mounted or something odd like that?
[15:50] <lelele> test
[15:51] <llutz> linux_dr: nope, check scripts in /etc/init
[15:51] <Sonderblade> zx42o: are there other devices on the same lan? can you verify that they successfully receive their ip:s from dhcp?
[15:52] <knightshade> !upstart | linux_dr
[15:52] <linux_dr> I don't even see ssh mentioned in /etc/rc2.d... :-(
[15:52] <linux_dr> knightshade: Been picking through it, thanks...
[15:53] <linux_dr> just haven't found anything there very helpful
[15:53] <llutz> linux_dr: scripts in /etc/init , /etc/rcX.d is old SysV-init
[15:53] <Fohlen> hi guys, could upgrading ubuntu-desktop (to be more specific xubuntu) from 12.10 to 13.04 with update-manager (graphically) cause any lack on data? Are there known issues?
[15:53] <linux_dr> could puppet be hijacking port 22? :-?
[15:53] <llutz> linux_dr: sudo lsof -i :22         check it
[15:55] <linux_dr> llutz: sshd is running there *NOW*... I'm seeing an odd behavior at early boot...
[15:55] <linux_dr> suspect BEFORE sshd is running... or sshd running before it should be...
[15:55] <linux_dr> I don't see anything launching it. :(
[15:56] <linux_dr> could VirtualBox be enabling ssh as the console OUTSIDE of sshd?
[15:56] <llutz> never heard of that
[15:57] <linux_dr> nor have I...
[15:57] <linux_dr> I'm just not seeing anything in /etc that should be starting openSSH so I don't know where it's being started.
[15:58] <llutz> linux_dr: check /etc/init/ssh* or /etc/init.d/ssh*
[15:58] <linux_dr> I just selected "OpenSSH Server" on Saucy install..
[16:00] <Sonderblade> Fohlen: i'd say the probability is about 50% that something will break if you do that upgrade
[16:00] <JoshDreamland> hi; I just ran the distribution upgrade to 13.10, thinking enough time has passed that nothing bad would happen, and it's apparently frozen, leaving only a blank window that says "Distribution Upgrade (as superuser)" in the title
[16:00] <Fohlen> Sonderblade, I meant like causing loss on personal data
[16:00] <linux_dr> Hold the phone...  I noticed start/stop on lines in /etc/init/ssh.conf... why should sshd know about run levels?
[16:01] <llutz> !runlevel | linux_dr
[16:01] <llutz> !upstart | linux_dr
[16:01] <linux_dr> so the upstart specific config files are in /etc/init/?
[16:01] <llutz> linux_dr: yes
[16:02] <Sonderblade> Fohlen: i've never experienced that... but it's always good to keep backups
[16:02] <Fohlen> right
[16:02] <SonikkuAmerica> JoshDreamland: So the Distribution Upgrade window is both blank and sitting there?
[16:02] <llutz> linux_dr: deeper info http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/
[16:02] <JoshDreamland> yes, SonikkuAmerica
[16:02] <JoshDreamland> just a big, gray window
[16:03] <SonikkuAmerica> JoshDreamland: I would [ killall ] (force-quit) the process and try again.
[16:03] <linux_dr> I see... and if I want to delay openssh until after the system stabilizes? that should be in the cookbook?
[16:03] <Fohlen> what would be the worst case that can happen?
[16:03] <Fohlen> assuming I have not many stuff
[16:04] <firmware0> ok guys, this may be a stupid question
[16:05] <firmware0> but when it first starts up and the words fly across the screen.. is there a log some where where i can more carefully read what is happening?
[16:05] <bekks> !ask | firmware0
[16:05] <JoshDreamland> when I run the update manager, it says "Not all updates can be installed." Should I click continue, or partial upgrade?
[16:05] <bekks> firmware0: Open a terminal and type "dmesg" and you will se quite a lot.
[16:06] <llutz> linux_dr: check the "start on" if there is such an entry in the conf
[16:07] <SonikkuAmerica> JoshDreamland: Hit "Cancel" then run [ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -f ] in a terminal.
[16:08] <SonikkuAmerica> JoshDreamland: once you've finished that, run [ sudo do-release-upgrade ].
[16:08] <JoshDreamland> should I delete the lock file?
[16:09] <SonikkuAmerica> Yes. Smash it.
[16:09] <llutz> linux_dr: if you want to make sure it starts after all important boot-processes are done, you may test a line like "start on filesystem and net-device-up IFACE=ethX"
[16:09] <JoshDreamland> wants me to run sudo dpkg --configure -a; doing so
[16:10] <maitake> so i accidentally wrote to my fonts.conf and text is now turning to bunches of rectangles.. is it possible to restore my fonts.conf? i've tried creating one  by pasting from a text editor but it still spits out rectangles
[16:10] <SonikkuAmerica> OK
[16:10] <[[thufir]]> my disc is like 99% full.  I want to see how big some .dar slices are when you add them all up together. can I use du or df to do that?
[16:11] <pulsar78> is there a way to a2dp without pulseaudio ?
[16:14] <JoshDreamland> SonikkuAmerica: when running upgrade -f, it bailed: "Processing was halted because there were too many errors."
[16:14] <SonikkuAmerica> pulsar78: What does a2dp do? Refresh me.
[16:15] <llutz> [[thufir]]:  ls -lrt *.dar | awk '{ total += $5 }; END { print total }'   ?
[16:15] <knightshade> [[thufir]]: du -ch *.dar
[16:15] <SonikkuAmerica> JoshDreamland: Can you run the same command and pastebin it?
[16:15] <JoshDreamland> rerun it, or paste the current log?
[16:15] <pulsar78> Advanced Audio Distribution Profile
[16:15] <JoshDreamland> I set my terminal log size to unlimited
[16:16] <SonikkuAmerica> JoshDreamland: Paste it.
[16:16] <SonikkuAmerica> !pastebin
[16:17] <alexxxa3> guys, on grandpa's laptop, it's xubuntu 12.04, whenever there are about 100 upgrades to be done, the sound disappears.
[16:17] <alexxxa3> then I have to do update
[16:17] <alexxxa3> and that was enough last time
[16:17] <SonikkuAmerica> pulsar78: couldn't tell you
[16:17] <alexxxa3> this time, even updating won't solve problem
[16:17] <alexxxa3> I had to start pavucontrol...
[16:18] <JoshDreamland> SonikkuAmerica: http://pastebin.com/nJ5Nni4R
[16:18] <alexxxa3> after existing pavucontrol, sound is muted, and I have to open pavucontrol again and unmute it all
[16:18] <JoshDreamland> the dist-upgrade starts on 1347
[16:18] <alexxxa3> what's the problem? bug or something else?
[16:18] <kostkon> pulsar78, with a little bit of fiddling with the alsa conf files probably yes
[16:19] <JoshDreamland> I must have missed the "too many errors" thing before
[16:19] <alexxxa3> anybody to help me?
[16:21] <MadsRC> what do you need help with alexxa3 ?
[16:21] <SonikkuAmerica> JoshDreamland: That's pretty messy... if you want to upgrade your machine, I'd suggest a Live image... Unless someone else has a better idea.
[16:21] <alexxxa3> I want to know why does exiting the pavucontrol mute sound?
[16:22] <MadsRC> Hmm, which flavour of Ubuntu?
[16:22] <JoshDreamland> josh@dreamland:~$ sudo do-release-upgrade   /   Checking for a new Ubuntu release   /   No new release found
[16:23] <JoshDreamland> so I'm "officially" on 13.10; I just can't get the package manager to not be a broken mess
[16:23] <alexxxa3> MadsRC: It's Xubuntu 12.04. XFCE
[16:24] <MadsRC> That's wierd. I've had tremendous problem with sound too on an XFCE 12.04. My solution was to do ubuntu 13.10 and remove gnome
[16:24] <SonikkuAmerica> JoshDreamland: Run [ lsb-release -a ] (the - between LSB and release is an underscore)
[16:25] <SonikkuAmerica> (For some reason I don't have an underscore in Android 4.4)
[16:25] <JoshDreamland> reports saucy, No LSB modules are available.
[16:25] <aguitel> how to know if i am using propietaries drivers ?
[16:26] <SonikkuAmerica> Still get a Live image and select "Reinstall Ubuntu 13.10" ...
[16:26] <zykotick9> aguitel: for what device?  video?  wlan?
[16:27] <aguitel> zykotick9, video
[16:27] <alexxxa3> unfortunately, grandpa lives in another country. All I can do is remote assistance (control). If somehow happens that X won't start (as a consequence of upgrading), I couldn't do anything on distance.
[16:27] <SonikkuAmerica> aguitel: Go to "Software and Updates" and look under the "Additional Drivers" tab
[16:27] <alexxxa3> I can't open port on his router
[16:27] <zykotick9> aguitel: what video card is it?  "lspci -v | grep -i vga" if you are unsure.
[16:28] <zykotick9> SonikkuAmerica: ftw ;)  aguitel
[16:28] <aguitel> zykotick9,  VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Wrestler [Radeon HD 7290] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[16:28] <atma111> need help, I have a proxy server "ubuntu server squid3" the pc's local network(windows7) have internet but the online games do not work (dota2 , wow, aion, starcraft2). What is the problem?
[16:31] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh hello atma111, nice to see you again. Did you read what I told you to read?
[16:33] <atma111> SonikkuAmerica yeah everything is working
[16:34] <atma111> SonikkuAmerica my problem is games online
[16:34] <atma111> not working
[16:35] <SonikkuAmerica> Nice to know your config is fixed. Are the ports you want to use open?
[16:37] <atma111> do not know the steam client not connecting
[16:38] <SonikkuAmerica> And you're not in offline mode?
[16:40] <juk> hello, can anyone help me out with this error: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"
[16:40] <atma111> yeah can not connect
[16:40] <juk> im getting this if launch glxinfo
[16:41] <atma111> SonikkuAmerica the problem may be iptables I have not configured
[16:41] <Sonderblade> juk: probably your 3d card driver is not active
[16:42] <SonikkuAmerica> atma111: Is the machine you're using Steam on connected to the Internet?
[16:42] <juk> Sonderblade: i can see nouveau in lsmod output
[16:44] <atma111> The Internet works well but no conect games online
[16:44] <Sonderblade> juk: does xdpyinfo | grep DRI list anything?
[16:45] <juk> Sonderblade: dri2
[16:45] <Arcs>  Hi all Im having trouble after installing Lubuntu from USB on an Acer aspire one after post it hangs and says ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/xxx - does not exist.  dropping to shell. Any help appreciated
[16:45] <SonikkuAmerica> atma111: You might try asking in #steamlug
[16:46] <kostkon> atma111, run steam from the terminal and look out for any relevant error messages
[16:46] <SonikkuAmerica> Arcs: what are you using? Live? Alternate? OBI? (also #lubuntu is a better place to talk)
[16:47] <kristen> hi
 it was using persistant mode and installed through that using USB latest edition
[16:49] <Sonderblade> juk: then perhaps its not a big deal that the extension is missing
[16:49] <atma111> Connection does not connect because I have not allowed my ubuntu server is not listening to Connect (have ubuntu server squid3 2lans localnetwork windows7 conect internet proxy but no conect games online wow,stem,starcraft2)
[16:50] <SonikkuAmerica> Arcs: well I have to go now...
[16:50] <mrvortex`> hello everyone. I'd like to create two NICs for a ubuntu virtual machine, one of bridge  and one of NAT, can someone kindly told me how to do that?
[16:52] <compdoc> never heard of a nat nic
[16:52] <llutz> mrvortex`: open virtualbox manager, go to your vm, select network, add adapter2, set nat/bridge like you want
[16:52] <juk> Sonderblade: hm, kinda sucks
[16:52] <llutz> mrvortex`: or aren't you talking about virtualbox? details pls
[16:53] <mrvortex`> the host OS is fedora 19. and i am using virt-manager to create the VM
[16:53] <juk> Sonderblade: is that the reason mouse pointer is flicking?
[16:54] <bekks> mrvortex`: However you have to configure your vm - when it results in ubuntu seeing two network devices you did it right.
[16:54] <zee> trying to hot-add memory on an ubuntu VM (12.0.4 LTS), but it does not allocate in the VM without a reboot?
[16:55] <zee> any idea why this is happening?
[16:55] <Sonderblade> juk: i've never experienced mouse pointer flicker
[16:55] <bekks> zee: Because linux doesnt support memory hot add.
[16:55] <zee> are you sure?
[16:55] <bekks> zee: At least not on non-NUMA nodes.
[16:55] <zee> ok
[16:55] <zee> guess thats why I am baffled
[16:56] <juk> Sonderblade: well, good for you, that's nvidia...
[16:56] <mrvortex`> do i need use the tunctl command to create a virtual NIC before editing the network interface configure file?
[16:57] <bekks> mrvortex`: You dont have to run a single command in ubuntu to configure your vm (outside of ubuntu) for having two nics.
[16:57] <o_m_g> hi
[16:58] <zykotick9> mrvortex`: you might want to try asking #virt on irc.oftc.net
[16:58] <o_m_g> how r u all
[16:58] <bekks> mrvortex`: Keep it in the channel please. If you dont configure your vm "right", you wont see two nics in your vm.
[17:00] <mrvortex`> then how to configure it right? In virt-manager i can't see the option to add an NIC
[17:02] <mrvortex`> the virt-manager tool of fedora seems to be different with the RHEL version which contains the option of managing NICs in VM details
[17:02] <bekks> mrvortex`: Ask Fedora and ##virt on how to do that please :)
[17:03] <Guest87819> Hi! I'm trying to install 13.10 with two physical disks and encryption
[17:04] <Guest87819> I'm having a lot of trouble with the installer
[17:04] <mrvortex`> OK I will have a try, is there some way to create a virtual NIC by run a command , like tunctl, brctl(for bridge)?
[17:04] <bekks> mrvortex`: You dont need to do that in your guest at all.
[17:04] <Guest87819> If I use the default setup, the installer only seems to be able to use one of my disks
[17:05] <Guest87819> If I use a custom setup, I have trouble with swap
[17:05] <beak> Greetings all, what is the command to clean up my system and remove clutter?
[17:05] <Guest87819> one of the following three things happens: 1. I setup no swap. The installer complains, but I am allowed to proceed. This is clearly suboptimal in my setup, as I do want some swap
[17:05] <mrvortex`> you mean you did the configuration in VM manager tools,like virtualbox and kvm et...?
[17:06] <bekks> mrvortex`: Yes.
[17:06] <raysaas> > Guest87819: Please specify ur machine configuration here. U can setup swap later.
[17:06] <Guest87819> 2. I setup a two different physical partitions for encrypted swap and non-swap
[17:07] <Guest87819> raysaas, What configuration info would you like?
[17:07] <Guest87819> raysaas, and how can I setup swap later?
[17:08] <bekks> Guest87819: create a partition/volume, use mkswap and swapon.
[17:08] <Guest87819> in #2, the installer thinks there isn't an encrypted swap partition, and it calls this a fatal error
[17:08] <raysaas> >Guest7819:  For swap please check this out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[17:09] <Guest87819> bekks, I am a bit confused about that - the installer is very picky about where the swap is
[17:09] <maciek1> Hi all
[17:09] <Guest87819> bekks, it wants it to be encrypted in  its own physical volume
[17:10] <subz3r0> im searching the option in dconf editor where i can set the option that i can change the size of windows with the arrows in the corners
[17:11] <subz3r0> e.g Systemconfiguration wont let me change the size. any idea where i can find it in dconf editor
[17:11] <subz3r0> ?
[17:11] <beak> streamtuner2 is broken, how do I fix?
[17:11] <subz3r0> beak: "broken" is not a fully qualified problem explanation.
[17:12] <beak> subz3r0, You can fix?
[17:12] <Guest87819> let me try to ask this question another way:
[17:12] <bekks> beak: Describe your actual issue before, please.
[17:12] <subz3r0> beak: sure, ill ask my crystall ball and then do the magic...
[17:12] <Guest87819> I would like to install Ubuntu on two disks.
[17:12] <Guest87819> The first disk need not be encrypted. I'd like to put OS files and whatnot there. Perhaps /boot
[17:13] <Guest87819> I'd like the second disk to be encrypted, and I'd like it to have my swap and /home
[17:13] <beak> subz3r0, I click on the channels and vlc does not fire up with the stream I wish, like it did since I first used it. I click on it and nothing happens. It worked okay until the last two months. Would you like me to give you the output via pastebin?
[17:13] <bekks> Guest87819: Then just encrypt your /home and put that on the second disk. Encrypting swap while not encrypting the rest of the system is nonsense.
[17:13] <Guest87819> And I'd like it to be decryptable with one password, so two physical volumes for encryption is not ideal
[17:14] <subz3r0> Guest87819:  I guess using LUKS(dm-crypt) with a lvm would be a good start. /boot wont be encrypted. but its not necessary
[17:14] <Guest87819> bekks, I did not mean to imply I wanted to encrypt swap without encrypting the rest of the system
[17:14] <Guest87819> Also, the installer doesn't seem to let me use two disks without a custom setup
[17:14] <marcoagner> Wat
[17:15] <Guest87819> but the custom setup is what I am having problems with - it doesn't seem to let me set up one volume on which I have both swap and /home
[17:15] <subz3r0> beak: i dont use it with vlc. i use it to grab radiostreams from the terminal
[17:15] <bekks> Guest87819: If you want to put the operatng system files on the first disk, which is unencrypted, the rest, besides swap and home IS unencrypted.
[17:15] <marcoagner> marco12.com
[17:15] <beak> subz3r0, I watch the videos
[17:15] <beak> subz3r0, There is an anime channel I really like
[17:16] <Guest87819> bekks, yes, I would like the first disk to have the OS, and be unencrypted, while the second has /home and swap and is encrypted
[17:16] <beak> subz3r0, VLC works fine, on its own, but the streamtuner2 is broken, i think
[17:16] <Guest87819> but I am having trouble getting the custom installer to do so
[17:16] <bekks> Guest87819: having the OS unencrypted and swap encrypted is nonsense.
[17:16] <beak> subz3r0, I purged and reinstalled to no avail
[17:16] <neongas> how large can a liveCD be? Can a machine having 1GB RAM boot a 2GB liveDVD?
[17:16] <bekks> Guest87819: Just encrypt your home on the second disk.
[17:16] <subz3r0> beak: first you talked about streamtuner2, now its vlc. well open streamtuner within a shell and check for errors
[17:16] <bekks> neongas: Sure.
[17:16] <Guest87819> bekks, to your first question, why?
[17:17] <Guest87819> To your second question, I would love to do that, but I can't figure out how to get the installer to let me do that
[17:17] <bekks> Guest87819: Because your OS may be accessed and changed without you even noticing it.
[17:17] <Guest87819> I am willing to risk that attack vector
[17:17] <beak> subz3r0, That is because streamtuner2 and vlc are connected
[17:17] <subz3r0> Guest87819: what ubuntu version?
[17:17] <bekks> Guest87819: Do a normal install. Put /home on the second disk. You will be asked wether /home shall be encrypted. Answer yes. Done.
[17:17] <hunter_> algum br ai?
[17:17] <hunter_> #brasil
[17:18] <Guest87819> subz3r0, 13.10
[17:18] <DJones> !br | hunter_
[17:18] <subz3r0> !br | hunter_
[17:18] <Guest87819> bekks, hm. I can't seem to get the "normal" install to let me put home on the second disk.
[17:18] <beak> subz3r0, http://pastebin.com/NzUG9wLN
[17:18] <subz3r0> Guest87819: so the installer should allow you easily to use dm-crypt and create a lvm with it
[17:18] <subz3r0> with 12.04 is was different(there you needed the alternate cd)
[17:18] <bekks> Guest87819: USe a custom layout, dont mess with encryption and just answer yes when being asked.
[17:19] <Guest87819> subz3r0, I see two installer options, custom and the default, and the default doesn't seem to let me use the second disk in any configuration, LVM or not
[17:20] <Guest87819> bekks, using a custom layout seems to require more than just answering yes when being asked on my machine
[17:20] <subz3r0> beak: since i dont use streamtuner2 and yours looks like messed up.. i would deinstall it and reinstall it then. "sudo apt-get purge packetname"
[17:21] <anon12> when mounting an external hard drive on a directory called hd I get: mount: warning: hd/ seems to be mounted read-only. the owner is set to root and I can't change the permissions using chown or chmod
[17:21] <beak> subz3r0, Been there, done that.
[17:21] <bekks> Guest87819: using a custom layout does not require more.
[17:21] <Guest87819> bekks, Do you mena answer yes when asked about the encrypted /home? I could probably do that. That might be easier
[17:21] <zykotick9> anon12: is it a fat/ntfs parition?
[17:22] <subz3r0> beak: before you reinstall check if /usr/bin/streamtuner2 is empty
[17:22] <subz3r0> since most errors relates to that folder
[17:22] <subz3r0> -s
[17:22] <anon12> zykotick9, How would I check for a terminal? I think ntfs or ext
[17:22] <Guest87819> bekks, I guess we are witnessing different things, than. My custom layout screen just shows my physical hardware and its existing partitions. It does not set them up for me in a way that enables installation without further work
[17:22] <zykotick9> anon12: try "mount" to check
[17:22] <anon12> ntfs
[17:23] <zykotick9> anon12: i can't/won't help then.  good luck.  fyi, you can't use chown/chmod on fat or ntfs paritions, it's all "how it's mounted" - i don't know the details.
[17:24] <anon12> zykotick9, is there any documentation on ntfs?
[17:24] <zykotick9> anon12: (for use in ubuntu) i'd guess there is...  good luck.
[17:27] <OmnIcK> hi! :-) How can I find deps for a package?
[17:28] <zykotick9> OmnIcK: "apt-cache depends foo" is one way (assuming the package is in the repo)
[17:28] <OmnIcK> zykotick9: thanks! :-)
[17:28] <MonkeyDust> OmnIcK  apt-cache depends foo
[17:28] <MonkeyDust> zykotick9  was faster :)
[17:29] <OmnIcK> MonkeyDust: Thanks. ;-)
[17:30] <OmnIcK> How to reinstall a package and all deps? (must I add all "by hand"?)
[17:31] <MonkeyDust> OmnIcK  apt-get install foo --reinstall
[17:31] <silvy> sera
[17:31] <silvy> !list
[17:31] <silvy> help
[17:31] <bekks> !it | silvy
[17:32] <silvy> thank
[17:33] <silvy_> join #ubuntu-it
[17:36] <silvy_> sera
[17:36] <silvy_> !list
[17:36] <MonkeyDust> silvy_  type /joun #ubuntu-it    that's with a /
[17:37] <MonkeyDust> silvy_  type /join #ubuntu-it    that's with a /
[17:39] <zx42o> hello while installing Ubuntu Desktop 12.04 LTS, I am having a repeated issue with a pop-up message "wired connection - disconnected you are now disconnected",  while troubleshooting this I installed a wireless adapter and now it says "wireless connection - disconnected you are now disconnected" LOL
[17:39] <MonkeyDust> zx42o  lol, but can you surf?
[18:00] <Annabel_> hey folks hate to come here and ask a silly question but I have a Digital Ocean VPS which has 2GB of RAM. Should I chose 12.04.3 LTS 64 or 32 bit?
[18:00] <Annabel_> I do not intend to upgrade past 3GB of RAM. I honestly cannot ever foresee needing to.
[18:00] <mazinho> pessoal meu som parou de funcionar
[18:00] <mazinho> albuem pode me ajudar
[18:01] <subz3r0> Annabel_: depends on the cpu
[18:01] <Annabel_> The VPS offered 64bit as an option (they install default ubuntu for you)
[18:01] <daftykins> Annabel_: 32-bit would be fine, really depends what you're going to run
[18:01] <Annabel_> So I assume their CPUs are capable of 64bit
[18:01] <subz3r0> Annabel_: but since its virtualized machine...
[18:01] <subz3r0> use 32bit
[18:01] <daftykins> Annabel_: although planning for the future is always good
[18:02] <Annabel_> I intend to run a simple MTA with roundcube/sieve and LAMP
[18:02] <subz3r0> daftykins: planning for what? its a virtualized server...
[18:02] <Annabel_> Perhaps 15-20 websites, half of which utilise wordpress. all low traffic small business sites
[18:02] <subz3r0> Annabel_: correct me if im wrong, but you rented it? so there is no future :)
[18:03] <Annabel_> I don't understand what you mean by "there is no future" ?
[18:03] <subz3r0> Annabel_: go for 32bit. 64bit makes no sense with 2 gigs of ram
[18:03] <mazinho> niguem pode me ajudar
[18:03] <MonkeyDust> !pt
[18:04] <subz3r0> Annabel_: daftykins advice was to plan for the future. but since you rented for the server, there is no "future". its not your line or hardware. so that does not matter
[18:04] <subz3r0> -for
[18:04] <MonkeyDust> Annabel_  if you're not certain, then use 32bit
[18:04] <Annabel_> I see what you mean. I am able to upgrade to a maximum of 96GB, 96 cores if I wanted to with digital ocean
[18:04] <Annabel_> I won't ever need anywhere near that lol
[18:05] <subz3r0> no idea what digital ocean is... i guess its a provider
[18:05] <daftykins> subz3r0: software reinstall future though ;D
[18:05] <subz3r0> daftykins: :D
[18:05] <MonkeyDust> https://www.digitalocean.com/
[18:05] <Annabel_> That was kind of my primary issue
[18:05] <Annabel_> How long will people like dovecot/postfix/apache etc support 32bit OS's ?
[18:06] <subz3r0> i would prefer a dedicated one. but thats just my opinion... i dont like to share :P
[18:06] <subz3r0> even not my meal! :p
[18:06] <tyteen4a04> hey - I'm on 13.10 and terminal emulator seems to not work. I open it up and it doesn't show anything at all (normally you would see the user and command prompt bit). any pointers?
[18:07] <zipace> Annabel_: probably for a very, very long time, seeing as how most 64bit processors are backwards compatible to 32bit
[18:07] <Annabel_> This isn't one of those cheap shares, my hardware is dedicated to the point that the CPU/RAM/SSD is all mine to use up
[18:07] <Annabel_> Someone with a high traffic site can't use up 95% of my CPU allocation
[18:07] <zipace> tyteen4a04: what kind of terminal emulator are you using (gnome, kde, xfce, lxde, etc)?
[18:07] <DexterF> tyteen4a04: try anotehr emulator like a simple xterm. if that works its the emulator, if that does not work, too, something is strange about your ~/.bash* files
[18:08] <Annabel_> subz3r0: Okay folks you've been most helpful. I was kind of leaning toward 32bit purely because my existing Linode uses it x
[18:08] <tyteen4a04> zipace: I have xfce
[18:08] <subz3r0> Annabel_: did i mention that in any way?
[18:08] <tyteen4a04> DexterF: xterm works
[18:08] <Annabel_> subz3r0: hehe no I guess not x
[18:08] <subz3r0> Annabel_: but you an be sure, most providers wont provide the stuff you payed for. but most users arent able to check that
[18:08] <tyteen4a04> does that mean I should ask in #xfce?
[18:08] <subz3r0> can
[18:08] <zykotick9> DexterF: s/emulator/terminal emualtor/ or just terminal - an emulator is typically something different
[18:08] <zipace> tyteen4a04: okay, paste your ~/.bashrc to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ (BUT MAKE SURE TO REMOVE DELICATE INFORMATION!!)
[18:09] <DexterF> when I install 13.10 from scratch, will it detect SSDs properly and align partitions, set proper fstab options, map certain mounts to ram?
[18:09] <computerguy901> welcome to Wally's world!
[18:09] <subz3r0> Annabel_: anyways. have fun with the service. and like the others said too... youll be fine with 32 bit
[18:09] <subz3r0> :)
[18:09] <Annabel_> Thanks <3
[18:09] <zipace> tyteen4a04: ignore my previous comment, haha
[18:09] <bcuraboy> hi guys.im having a problem.im running pear os 8,and after i made the updates and upgrades i cant boot.
[18:09] <DexterF> zykotick9: ...
[18:10] <Beldar> DexterF, you would have to align the partitions if you have a specific schema.
[18:10] <zipace> bcuraboy: do you get any kind of boot messages?
[18:10] <tyteen4a04> zipace: yeah, a shell script with delicate information...
[18:10] <bcuraboy> it tells to me : keys: press s to skip mounting or m for manual recovery..
[18:10] <zipace> bcuraboy: take a screenshot, or tak a picture or something, if it's very long
[18:10] <bcuraboy> ive tried both options but still no boot...
[18:10] <DexterF> Beldar: nothing fancy. boot root home.
[18:10] <Beldar> DexterF, A swap would be set up as normal, the install does not setup optimization in other words.
[18:11] <bcuraboy> no boot messages
[18:11] <zipace> tyteen4a04: well, idk about you, but some people do have some private data in their bashrc files, hence why i warned you to check twice before uploading such files
[18:11] <Beldar> DexterF, a swap and a partition for the install on auto install
[18:11] <tyteen4a04> if it helps: 1. I did a partial upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10 (for whatever reason), 2. terminal window seems to say that it is a GNOME terminal (3.6.1)
[18:11] <DexterF> zipace: which is good advice in general
[18:11] <zipace> DexterF: yup
[18:12] <bcuraboy> also ive made a fresh install in a clean disk,so i dont know what could cause the problem...
[18:12] <DexterF> Beldar: come again?
[18:12] <Beldar> DexterF, where?
[18:12] <DexterF> Beldar: what?
[18:12] <zipace> bcuraboy: fsck is running, just be patient
[18:12] <Beldar> DexterF, YOu do not understand be specific where.
[18:12] <tyteen4a04> zipace: I didn't really customize my OS that much, still getting used to switching from windows
[18:12] <zipace> bcuraboy: fsck = filesystem check, i.e., it checks your partitions for errors, and will continue booting once it's done
[18:13] <DexterF> Beldar: I have some trouble following you, I have to say: <Beldar> DexterF, a swap and a partition for the install on auto install
[18:13] <zipace> tyteen4a04: alrighty, just keep in mind not to upload arbitrary files without censoring potentially private information is all i'm saying
[18:13] <bcuraboy> so the only thing to do is wait?
[18:13] <tyteen4a04> zipace: yeah, I get it
[18:13] <zipace> bcuraboy: for better or worse, yes
[18:14] <tyteen4a04> zipace: back to my problem: you know of anything I can try?
[18:14] <bcuraboy> even in a fresh install?
[18:14] <Beldar> DexterF, Ubuntu does the same auto install for a regular hd and a ssd a swap partition and a partition for the OS, any other is your responsibility.
[18:14] <zipace> bcuraboy: fsck checks usually indicate that your filesystem *may* have errors, so it's best to play the waiting game
[18:14] <DexterF> Beldar: got it
[18:15] <bcuraboy> ok.. :/
[18:15] <bcuraboy> thanks guys
[18:15] <zipace> tyteen4a04: difficult to say, as i use KDE, and i could only guess what might cause gnome-terminal to behave that way
[18:16] <Beldar> DexterF, If you are dual booting with a uefi however if installed in uefi it will install in that format.
[18:16] <zipace> tyteen4a04: as others said, you can try your luck in #xfce, as well as #gnome, they might be more specialised with this sort of problem
[18:17] <tyteen4a04> zipace: yeah
[18:20] <mommi> hallo
[18:26] <jbruce> I'm currently following the DisklessUbuntuHowto tutorial and I'm really stuck on getting nfs mounted during the boot process. Anyone have any experience with this process?
[18:27] <MonkeyDust> jbruce  with nfs yes, not with diskless
[18:29] <jbruce> MonkeyDust: I think the main issue I'm having is with nfs. I'm hitting a kernel panic when it tries to mount my nfs share during the boot process. I've checked my server logs and it doesn't actually ever try to contact the nfs server (but it has pulled an ip address).
[18:29] <MonkeyDust> jbruce  guess that would be more for #ubuntu-server
[18:29] <jbruce> oh cool
[18:29] <MonkeyDust> jbruce  just looked up the howto
[18:29] <jbruce> I can try that too
[18:39] <SrRaven> So, ill ask again, how do I boot from USB ? Its a macbook pro 8.1 that has a "broken" ubuntu 13.10 installation
[18:40] <MonkeyDust> !usb
[18:41] <MonkeyDust> SrRaven  use a program to install an iso on usb, insert usb stick in laptop, boot from usb
[18:41] <SrRaven> ...so your answer to my question how I boot from USB is to tell me to boot from USB ? :p
[18:42] <Beldar> !mac
[18:42] <SrRaven> and yes, I know the mac page
[18:42] <SrRaven> that aint helping either
[18:42] <Beldar> SrRaven, Not many here use apples, have some patience and give details.
[18:43] <SrRaven> well, at the moment I simply need it to boot from USB so I can reinstall as my old one is broken
[18:43] <SrRaven> which happened because I followed someone here (meh) and upgraded the video drivers
[18:43] <Beldar> SrRaven, we are not bound to help you this is free help you get what you pay for.
[18:43] <SrRaven> which,according to other websites, are broken
[18:44] <Fohlen> Sonderblade, update was going fine ... now running ubuntu 13.04 ... only had to rebuild nvidia-current with depmod (only thing I had to do manually)
[18:44] <Fohlen> everything else worked just fine
[18:44] <SrRaven> yes Beldar I know that and I appreciate it, but I'm not a fan from "take these links and figure something out"
[18:44] <Fohlen> :)
[18:44] <alokyadav15> see ubuntu documentation how to boot from usb
[18:44] <daftykins> SrRaven: you want to be holding alt after powering on, are you not getting a choice of your USB drive when you do this?
[18:45] <SrRaven> im not seeing the usb drive no
[18:45] <alokyadav15> SrRaven: which os do u have alive
[18:45] <alokyadav15> ?
[18:45]  * Beldar thanks a higher power for the ignore
[18:46] <SrRaven> arrogance is a bliss
[18:46] <_bart> Hi I'm using UFW, but somehow it doesn't allow my connection to port 25: https://gist.github.com/bartolsthoorn/23e3b67ca9c51d951a67
[18:46] <Fohlen> Beldar, keep in mind this is an open support channel ... people are not payed nor forced to answer you
[18:46] <Fohlen> be glad if they do
[18:47] <Beldar> Fohlen, I asked for no help
[18:47] <llutz> _bart: but there is a service listening on port 25?
[18:47] <Beldar> Fohlen, I have been on here for years supporting, I never ask for help.
[18:47] <MonkeyDust> SrRaven  basically, yes, you asked my how to boot from usb, so I told you how
[18:48] <Sonderblade> Fohlen: good for you, updates have gone wrong for me many times which is why i never recommend it for inexperienced users
[18:48] <_bart> llutz: yes, doing the same thing from the server itself works fine and shows a postfix message
[18:48] <bekks> Beldar: Yesterday or the day before was the last time you asked.
[18:48] <bekks> Beldar: however.
[18:48] <Beldar> bekks, on what?
[18:48] <llutz> _bart: and postfix listens on external ip and not localhost-only?
[18:49] <Fohlen> sorry than Beldar, you might know then that beeing a supporter means beeing a retarded bastard ... so don't bother people if they ignore you
[18:49] <Fohlen> its common behavoir on irc
[18:49] <_bart> llutz: hmm that's a good question
[18:49] <bekks> Beldar: you would have to look up the logs - I dont memorize what people ask in high frequent channels like this.
[18:49] <llutz> _bart: sudo lsof -i :25   on server
[18:49] <Beldar> Fohlen, I bothered no one.
[18:49] <kostkon> Beldar, though i knew you, wilee ;)
[18:49] <DJones> Fohlen: Please be polite, there's a policy of no swearing in the channel
[18:49] <Beldar> bekks, You are wrong I asked for no help is all.
[18:49] <Fohlen> DJones, I'm just telling truth :P
[18:49] <Fohlen> :D
[18:50] <Fohlen> (19:45:24) ***Beldar thanks a higher power for the ignore >> so far on "I bother noone"
[18:50] <DJones> Fohlen: Well its not appropriate for the channel, so please don't in future
[18:50] <Beldar> Fohlen, That is a open generalized comment
[18:50] <_bart> llutz: https://gist.github.com/bartolsthoorn/72041b988127ec8b7e8f
[18:50] <Fohlen> k, I try to keep that in mind
[18:51] <_bart> llutz: but maybe I should check the postfix conf
[18:51] <llutz> _bart: couldn't harm, but *.smtp means listens on all ifaces
[18:52] <_bart> llutz: any other ideas what could be blocking it? Maybe you'd like to see the iptables?
[18:52] <_bart> (they are generated by ufw)
[18:53] <llutz> _bart: i'm not familiar with ufw, but the "tcp/25 allow incoming from anywhere" sounds correct. Other rules shouldn't affect that
[18:54] <Fohlen> DJones, I'm a supporter in many channels too ... like for years ... sometimes supporting people just requires to be ingorant and retarded
[18:54] <Fohlen> :)
[18:54] <Fohlen> was not about swearing or hesitating anyone
[18:54] <MonkeyDust> Fohlen  we get the message, let's move on, shall we
[18:54] <Fohlen> k
[18:55] <llutz> _bart: does it work if you switch ufw off for a short test?
[18:55] <llutz> _bart: that'll mean that postfix works correct.
[18:57] <_bart> llutz: nope, so maybe it's postfix that is not properly listening with the wrong conf, not about the firewall, I'll check
[18:58] <uBUXUBu> can i load and run my OS (buntu1204) off of a new 32gb pny thumb drive?
[18:58] <uBUXUBu> and have it run fast
[18:58] <uBUXUBu> someone in hardware just told me yes but it will run slow??
[18:58] <MonkeyDust> uBUXUBu  it's called a !persistent installation
[18:59] <uBUXUBu> too me it should run like a ssd
[18:59] <uBUXUBu> im seeing 32gb drives for 15 dollars
[18:59] <Beldar> uBUXUBu, externals run a bit slower is all even if usb3
[18:59] <uBUXUBu> is that fast MonkeyDust
[18:59] <uBUXUBu> is it faster than x7200 mechanical dives?
[19:00] <MonkeyDust> uBUXUBu  depends on what you call fast
[19:00] <uBUXUBu> fast is faster than modern 7200 drives
[19:00] <uBUXUBu> fast is like my kingston ssd
[19:02] <steve_fi> uBUXUBu, that depends on how fast the USB drive is
[19:03] <prashant_123456> anyone here using i3 window manager ?
[19:04] <jhutchins> uBUXUBu: I can tell you that running Linux off of a USB2 drive is going to be painfully slow.
[19:04] <llutz> usb3 works fine, but slow compared to internal ssd
[19:04] <jhutchins> uBUXUBu: I haven't tried it with USB3.  Linux typically does not perform well on USB connections.
[19:04] <jhutchins> Internal SSD is REALLY fast.
[19:05] <jhutchins> Noticible difference between ssd and 10k drives.
[19:05] <kostkon> !anyone | prashant_123456
[19:05] <kostkon> :/
[19:06] <uBUXUBu> ty jhutchins
[19:06] <prashant_123456> yes u r right $mod + d not working in my i3 window manager
[19:06] <uBUXUBu> if it doesnt perform fast i dont need it
[19:07] <Guerrilla> how do you play a dvd movie in the cd player on lubuntu
[19:07] <llutz> uBUXUBu: usb2 is never fast, it cannot be, by design
[19:07] <zykotick9> prashant_123456: i'd suggest looking for an i3 channel, i doubt many *buntu people use it...  good luck.
[19:08] <Beldar> Guerrilla, Have you installed the lubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:08] <uBUXUBu> bummer sounded like fun
[19:08] <Guerrilla> not sure
[19:08] <Guerrilla> whats the command
[19:08] <uBUXUBu> ithink it would be great to have a fast protable OS
[19:08] <Beldar> Guerrilla, sudo apt-get install lubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:08] <uBUXUBu> portable*
[19:09] <prashant_123456> ok
[19:09] <Beldar> uBUXUBu, There are some fast tablets.
[19:09] <Beldar> and laptops
[19:10] <Guerrilla> it only plays for a second
[19:10] <Guerrilla> then it comes off
[19:10] <Guerrilla> it only lets me explore the disk
[19:10] <Guerrilla> i just want to run the movie
[19:10] <Beldar> Guerrilla, Try several dvd's
[19:11] <belgianguy> Guerrilla: tried VLC?
[19:11] <Guerrilla> is there a way to make it auto run
[19:11] <Beldar> Guerrilla, Isolate that it may be this one.
[19:11] <Guerrilla> idk if i  have vlc
[19:13] <Beldar> Guerrilla, vlc is the same apt-get install
[19:13] <Guerrilla> k
[19:13] <Guerrilla> just ran it
[19:14] <Beldar> Guerrilla, here is some more info related to the restricted extras and dvd's. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[19:14] <Guerrilla> Playback failure:
[19:14] <Guerrilla> DVDRead could not open the disc "/dev/dvd".
[19:14] <Guerrilla> Your input can't be opened:
[19:14] <Guerrilla> VLC is unable to open the MRL 'dvd:///dev/dvd'. Check the log for details.
[19:14] <Guerrilla> Playback failure:
[19:14] <FloodBot1> Guerrilla: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:14] <Guerrilla> DVDRead could not open the disc "/dev/dvd".
[19:21] <uBUXUBu> lotta ppl comoin and goin here
[19:22] <a_> a
[19:22] <uBUXUBu> see
[19:23] <Beldar> uBUXUBu, Many irc apps allow you to have that off if you like
[19:23] <uBUXUBu> o cool
[19:23] <uBUXUBu> my whole screen is loaded with them
[19:23] <Beldar> it can be disconcerting
[19:24] <uBUXUBu> in fact, the activity of pl coming and going far exceeds the tech chat by prolly 25:1 ratio
[19:25] <MonkeyDust> uBUXUBu  you can hide those meesages
[19:29] <bugtraq> hola
[19:31] <Tex_Nick> hello
[19:31] <bugtraq> hi
[19:35] <spexi> Hi! If I would like to install Ubuntu now, which version is the best when you think of the future and upgrading to 14.04 LTS? So if I don't want to do clean install with 14.04, is it better to upgrade from 12.04 LTS or for example 13.10?
[19:37] <SrRaven> alright so my ubuntu 13.10 seems to work, whats the easiest way to make a full image of it so I can put that on if worse comes to worse?
[19:38] <kostkon> spexi, it wouldn't matter, only 4 months are left for 14.04 so you might as well install 13.10
[19:39] <Pyrric> Whats up guys
[19:41] <theowner997> Hello I am trying to run Android Kitchen on Ubuntu , I am new to Linux please help me :)
[19:41] <SrRaven> you sure you want to use android kitchen ? its quite complicated
[19:41] <SrRaven> and linux isnt much easier
[19:42] <theowner997> Just tell me how to run it :)
[19:42] <SrRaven> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5626300&postcount=3
[19:42] <SrRaven> Go there and read it up,explained there in detail.
[19:44] <anon12> theowner997, Are you trying to run an Android app on Ubuntu?
[19:44] <SrRaven> android kitchen is a custom rom "maker"
[19:44] <anon12> ok
[19:44] <Beldar> theowner997, have you looked here there are specifics mentioned for ubuntu. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633246
[19:45] <Tex_Nick> spexi: 13.04 was really stable for me, however support for it will end shortly ... I'm currently using 13.10 and is is still a bit flakey on this box ... 12.04 is rock solid stable ... so either 12.04 or 13.10 & I don't think you'll really find much benifit in 13.10 vs 12.04
[19:45] <Beldar> theowner997, post #3
[19:45] <SrRaven> so....where is my usb stick :s
[19:47] <spexi> thanks kostkon and Tex_Nick, I guess I'll go with 13.10 then
[19:49] <uBUXUBu> lotta spam here
[19:49] <Beldar> uBUXUBu, PM spam?
[19:49] <uBUXUBu> no public
[19:49] <theowner997> Followed all steps but still can't run it.
[19:50] <uBUXUBu> ping timeouts like crazy
[19:50] <uBUXUBu> someone must be messing with the servers
[19:50] <Tex_Nick> uBUXUBu: that's not spam ;)
[19:51] <Beldar> theowner997, Part of the problem here is this is not a ubuntu app, it's 3rd party, I doubt many here if any have used it, I have never heard of it till now, as well 3rd patry stuff is technically not supported. This does not mean you will get no help, it just may be sporadic.
[19:51] <uBUXUBu> yeah i know but its not good
[19:52] <MonkeyDust> uBUXUBu  what's your irc client?
[19:53] <Beldar> uBUXUBu, time outs in that you get knocked off the channel?
[19:54] <uBUXUBu> no tons of others
[19:54] <Beldar> I have the join and leave off
[19:55] <MonkeyDust> uBUXUBu  please hide those messages, so they don't bother you anymore (and you stop telling how much they bother you)
[19:55] <Beldar> +1
[19:57] <Beldar> !away > GTB3NW_AWAY
[20:03] <tsnyph> need some help please. i changed by linux password, and now both my passwords work. wtf?
[20:03] <Beldar> tsnyph, both?
[20:03] <tsnyph> yes both
[20:03] <tsnyph> when i sudo su i can use both passwords and they work
[20:03] <Beldar> tsnyph, what both?
[20:03] <alokyadav15> tsnyph: lolz thats funhy
[20:03] <alokyadav15> funny
[20:04] <alokyadav15> hahhaha
[20:04] <MonkeyDust> tsnyph  there's only 1 password, the one you use to login is the same as sudo
[20:05] <tsnyph> im telling you both my passwords work
[20:05] <Beldar> tsnyph, Did you make a root password besides the user password?
[20:07] <tsnyph> this is what i did, i loged in as root so sudo su then i typed passwd, it promted me for a new password and i changed it, confimed it, then exit
[20:07] <alokyadav15> tsnyph: your pass match with some other users with sudo permissions thats why its happening
[20:08] <Beldar> tsnyph, Your not supposed to make a password in  root in ubuntu
[20:08] <tsnyph> how do i fix it?
[20:09] <Beldar> tsnyph, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[20:10] <tendor> hello guys
[20:11] <regorianer> hey, a question about ttyUSBx: is it possible to configure a usbHUB, so that i can define, which device can be connected to which port and only this port? better i explain using a simple example: lets assume there a 5 different usb device with different functionalities but equal meta information, so that the kernel cannot determine which type of usb device was connected. so what happens if i plug in a usb device, it gets mounted as ttyUSB0
[20:11] <regorianer> the next as ttyUSB1 an so on. that make it impossible to determine which device is the device to use within a program if the order of plug-ins is changed. what i need is a port (lets say ttyUSB1) that only handles usb device of type X. in simple words i need to secure, that the HUB mounts as the ports are located (e.g. always port0 as ttyUSB0, port1 as ttyUSB1 and so on - if no device on port0 is not connected the device connected on port1
[20:11] <regorianer> be mounted as ttyUSB1 and not ttyUSB0).
[20:11] <tendor> anyone who could help me with a disc recovery (i'm don't wanna screw up)? i've send a friend a command for creating bootable usb and didn't know that he had two hdds in pc, so sdb indicated to that disc...
[20:13] <Beldar> tendor, Relying on us for your mistakes implicitly is not a fair scenario, however testdisk is a good recovery tool.
[20:14] <Beldar> tendor, The best scenario here would your friend having images/clones
[20:15] <aghinugrohod> http://www.pornhub.com/
[20:15] <aghinugrohod> http://www.pornhub.com/
[20:15] <FloodBot1> aghinugrohod: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:15] <Beldar> !ops | aghinugrohod
[20:17] <tendor> Beldar, thanks i know that is my screw up, i just dont want to screw it up more it is 500gb disc, that had two partitions with 250gb, i want to primarly save the second part
[20:18] <Beldar> tendor, we can't really guarantee anything though.
[20:19] <tendor> Beldar, i know
[20:23] <SmallJoker> Hello, how can I _decrease_ my OpenGL version or remove the wrong graphic driver?
[20:24] <SrRaven> what settings do I need to enable so I can enter a machine from within the network?
[20:25] <jhutchins> SrRaven: What do you mean by "enter"?
[20:25] <Jumpie> hey guys
[20:25] <Jumpie> not exactly sure which part, but i have confirmed t hat apt-get upgrade is causing my system to hang at boot splash screen
[20:25] <SrRaven> use ssh to log in
[20:25] <Jumpie> strangely dmesg doesnt show anything quirky
[20:25] <SrRaven> so I dont have to switch from this PC to the laptop over and over
[20:25] <Jumpie> is there a way to revert this command or narrow downe xactly what caused the hang? the actual upgrade was successful
[20:26] <SmallJoker> Anyone? Is there a tutorial to remove the existing graphic driver?
[20:26] <SrRaven> I think you have to remove the xorg file, but ive been using linux for 1 day now :/
[20:27] <jhutchins> SrRaven: No, don't have to do anything with xorg, just enable sshd.
[20:27] <SmallJoker> Well, I'm using ubuntu now since 2 days, but I've reinstalled that applicaton aleready serval times and nothing changed
[20:27] <jhutchins> SrRaven: I'm not sure it's installed by default.
[20:30] <SrRaven> how would I check that?
[20:33] <dufa> SrRaven: in order to aneble ssh login you need to install the server. you can find the openssh server in the package "ssh"
[20:34] <SrRaven> thanks
[20:34] <jhutchins> SrRaven: I don't have access to an Ubuntu system at the moment, but if it's in the ssh package then it should be installed, you just have to enable it as a service and start it.
[20:35] <jhutchins> SrRaven: Configurable in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[20:35] <SrRaven> thanks !
[20:36] <kreuger> hey all
[20:36] <alokyadav15> hello
[20:37] <linux_dr> I'm trying to grok the upstart intro/cookbook, but I'm feeling a bit on a wild goose chase... can someone here point me to an easy way (maybe in the upstart cookbook) to have OpenSSHd come up AFTER everything else in the system is up and running? I'm defaulting to run level 2 in Saucy Salaander Server.
[20:37] <linux_dr> (this is all within Vagrant and virtual box)
[20:37] <shawn1963> is this the support channel?
[20:38] <shawn1963> durrr never mind I can't read
[20:38] <shawn1963> I need a bit of help on an install to a 32Gb flashdrive.
[20:39] <dragonfly> shawn1963, what is the issue you are having?
[20:40] <kreuger> Im having an issue logging in
[20:40] <Merphis-0x71> hey 0x71 (xc) Our code two of which is Mepis and Morphos http://www.mepis.org and http://morphos.de come to efnet #0x71.org to discuss it and http://0x71.org/2013/12/22/0x71-xc-our-boss-coded-2-os-for-all-of-you-not-even-me-skraito-understand-what-it-is-you-can-try-it-ourselve-of-course-is-super-power-is-coded-by-god-our-boss-which-is-jesus-christ-all-glory-b/
[20:41] <shawn1963> dragonfly: I just sent you a "private", hope I did it right, message.
[20:43] <shawn1963> dragonfly: I saw the pop up but wasn't sure what to do with it.  I am reaaaaaallly rusty with IRC.
[20:43] <tendor> Beldar, thanks testdisk was able to help
[20:43] <dragonfly> shawn1963, does it give a message when it fails?
[20:44] <c4pt> I am using samba with an old xbox for media sharing, I setup samba but some of the users and groups didn't exist,  does samba change users and groups to samba-user:100* if those user names and groups arent there yet , I have heard that samba is a really weak protocol to use to share files from its vulernablities
[20:44] <shawn1963> dragonfly: It just tells me that the installer has failed and that a report will be generated and sent to the developers.  But I don't know what the report says.
[20:44] <c4pt> nevermind.
[20:45] <shawn1963> dragonfly: I've had it installed on the hd once before but ever since then I have been able to complete the install to either the hd or to usb.
[20:47] <shawn1963> dragonfly: you still there?
[20:48] <tendor> Beldar, thx testdisk helped
[20:49]  * LinoSP has successfully installed Debian Wheezy 7.3.0 i386 LXDE   on a 13yo laptop Toshiba 1555CDS   AMD-K6  380Mhz 160MB RAM   ^_^ =D
[20:49] <Beldar> tendor, Cool I figured it would, I just don't want to give any false hopes. ;)
[20:49] <LinoSP> Why Ubuntu doesn't support AMD K6  CPUs ?
[20:50] <LinoSP> :(
[20:50] <Beldar> LinoSP, probably info on the web if this is true.
[20:51] <Beldar> none of us are associated with canonical is all
[20:52] <Beldar> LinoSP, debian in general is a lighter install, ubuntu can light install with a net install.
[20:56] <Beldar> LinoSP, I would assume that is a non pae kernel compliant cpu, the net install would work, or maybe of lubuntu, xubuntu, tis a slow cpu is all if supported.
[21:01] <sonoio> #italia
[21:02] <sonoio> ciao
[21:03] <kreuger> Can I run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg from in a live cd?
[21:04] <sonoio> ciao a tutti
[21:04] <DJones> !it | sonoio
[21:05] <linux_dr> sonoio: lol... I now know barely enough Italian to know what that means... take care... lol
[21:10] <daedeloth> does anyone have chrome, an xbox controller and the xbox controller drivers installed in ubuntu? :p
[21:10] <daedeloth> I'm wondering if I have a freak issue, or if this is a structural thing
[21:10] <daedeloth> (wrongly mapped keys in ubuntu / linux)
[21:12] <jhutchins> daedeloth: I think there are some good guides on the web, but I don't have an xbox controller.
[21:13] <daedeloth> no everything is set up right, but there seems to be an issue with the mapping
[21:13] <daedeloth> and I'm not sure if it's me, or linux in general
[21:13] <daedeloth> I need to remap them, but I want to make sure that it's not just my computer being misconfigured or something :)
[21:14] <jojo_> I think the only way to figure this out is probably to tinker
[21:15] <jojo_> You could remap, and if that doesn't work, then start screwing with the configuration and reading through the man pages
[21:15] <daedeloth> well, like I said, there is no real problem here :) It's just that, if I add filters for linux in my scripts, all linux users will have this mapping
[21:16] <daedeloth> bah I hate this experimental stuff. :)
[21:16] <daedeloth> I'm going to start with just ignoring the issue until I get linux complaints
[21:16] <daedeloth> even though I'm actually running ubuntu myself
[21:16] <uBUXUBu> me too
[21:17] <Guest29875> i also run ubuntu
[21:17] <Guest29875> 12.04
[21:17] <uBUXUBu> it is difficult to not run ubuntu these days
[21:17] <uBUXUBu> yes 1204
[21:17] <jojo_> linux is all about experimenting, haha.
[21:17] <daedeloth> (did I triggre something here?)
[21:17] <daedeloth> no, I don't agree
[21:17] <jojo_> Ubuntu makes linux so much easier than it's ever been
[21:17] <dougl> how hard is it to make a script to say "Hi" or a private message on join indication - what should I google for?
[21:18] <uBUXUBu> its is becoming neccasary to run ubuntu these days
[21:18] <jojo_> 10 years ago, I just expected to spend a few days tinkering to get a linux distro working smoothely
[21:18] <jhutchins> dougl: Depends on your (presumably irc) client.
[21:18] <jojo_> what kind of script
[21:18] <Beldar> dougl, The channel does not like extra join or part stuff.
[21:19] <jhutchins> dougl: Not somethng you'd do on a tech channel like this.
[21:20] <jojo_> dougl: the answer to your question partially depends on which irc client you are using
[21:21] <dougl> not so I need to open a private chat with "specificnick" when he joins this channel or #kubuntu so I can instruct him how to proceed after he boots the Kubuntu 13.10 I installed on his computer... xchat
[21:23] <EminentDomain> does anyone have any experience in any HDMI sticks that can run Ubuntu
[21:23]  * dougl installed kubuntu on bosses son's computer along side the cleaned windows 7 install... now tripple booting - linux, ms recovery and windows 7
[21:23] <EminentDomain> i'm trying to buy some hdmi sticks to try and make into a front end for plex and/or xbmc
[21:23] <dougl> EminentDomain, WHAT IS A HDMI STICK
[21:23] <dougl> oops
[21:24] <MonkeyDust> dougl  i guess it depends on your irc client
[21:24]  * Beldar loves being self employed
[21:24] <dougl> sorry for yelling
[21:24] <EminentDomain> like a computer in a stick form tht plugs into a tv
[21:24] <dougl> MonkeyDust,  xchat
[21:25] <dougl> I used to do it on mirc in windows 98 so I thot it would be a cakewalk in linux... but am unsure what to google for...
[21:25] <EminentDomain> http://lightake.com/detail.do/sku.RK3188_Quad_Core_Android_4.2_UGOOS_UG802B_1080P_HDMI_Output_2G_DDR3_Mini_PC_TV_Stick_-64051?gclid=CIjHvaPixLsCFew7MgoddTEAoQ
[21:25] <EminentDomain> thats a sample of one
[21:25] <MonkeyDust> dougl  better ask in the xchat channel, how scripts are made and handled
[21:26] <dougl> MonkeyDust, thanks - will do...
[21:27] <MonkeyDust> dougl  type /join #xchat
[21:27] <dougl> EminentDomain, do you know what a raspberry pi is? xbmc runs awesome on that 40 dollar computer that runs debian etc
[21:27] <dougl> type /join #xchat
[21:27] <dougl> lol
[21:27] <kreuger> ok this is weird. My computer boots to grub then it just hangs. there's no counter and neither my kb or mouse have power.
[21:28] <MonkeyDust> kreuger  are they wireless?
[21:28] <Beldar> kreuger, hangs on the grub menu or a black screen post grub?
[21:29] <kreuger> no they're USB
[21:29] <kreuger> the grub menu
[21:29] <kreuger> Im gonna try my ps/2 kb
[21:29] <kreuger> that works. odd
[21:30] <kreuger> once im past that screen, my mouse came on and so did the USB kb
[21:30] <Beldar> kreuger, Is the dead keyboard a basic generic?
[21:30] <kreuger> its working now
[21:30] <liam___>                                                                                im workin on a installer script http://dpaste.com/1518824/ any ideas to make the code neater/cleaner
[21:31] <kreuger> I just cant get the computer to login now
[21:31] <Guest40113> any GUI tool to convert html pages to pdf?
[21:32] <liam___> im working on a auto install script type thing http://dpaste.com/1518824/ any ideas how to make it a little cleaner code wise
[21:33] <MonkeyDust> Guest40113  abiword
[21:34] <Guest29875> liam___,  clean code does not matter........ readable/understandable code is the only thing that matters
[21:34] <wikiwill> hi guys, i'm trying to run steam for windows, in WINE, but after it connects my account it crashes giving me this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6619729/
[21:34] <jojo_> Guest, clean code == readable/understandable code
[21:35] <Guest29875> wikiwill, you realize that steam works perfect under ubuntu 12.04 right?
[21:35] <MonkeyDust> Guest40113  Guest29875 please choose a more readable nickname
[21:35] <wikiwill> guest, im using ubuntu 13.10, is that the problem?
[21:35] <Quest_> MonkeyDust,  did that
[21:35] <Quest_> MonkeyDust,  abiword is a word pocesser
[21:36] <Quest_> processor
[21:36] <ralphthewindowsu> wikiwill, maybe ? idk but try installing the linux version of steam with the correct drivers
[21:36] <gmachine_24> Quest: or a typing program :-)
[21:36] <Quest_> i need a tool to convert from html to pdf
[21:36] <MonkeyDust> Quest_  just checked, you can "save as pdf"
[21:36] <ralphthewindowsu> MonkeyDust, openoffice?
[21:36] <kreuger> Im uploading a video to youtube to show the issue Im having. When it's done, I'll share it here
[21:36] <jojo_> wikiwill: probably not.  I would install steam based on the documentation for ubuntu here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve
[21:36] <MonkeyDust> ralphthewindowsu  no, abiword handles both html and pdf
[21:36] <Quest_> MonkeyDust,  ya but I need html to pdf. not word to pdf. I already have html files
[21:36] <wikiwill> ralphthewindowsu: steam for linux will not run non-linux games
[21:37] <knightshade> Quest_: there is wkhtmltopdf, whcih does what you want, but is not a gui tool
[21:37] <MonkeyDust> Quest_  just tried, you can open html files and save as pdf, with abiword
[21:38] <Quest_> ok
[21:38] <jojo_> wikiwill: why do you want to run non-linux games on linux?  Just use Virtualbox to create a Windows VM.
[21:38] <wikiwill> jojo: will virtualbox take full advantage of my GPU?
[21:38] <liam___> i dont think so
[21:40] <guntbert> wikiwill: no, it gets a virtual GPU
[21:40] <slashsux> this isnt the channel i want to BE IN
[21:41] <gmachine_24> so..............leave
[21:41] <SchrodingersScat> gmachine_24: he did.
[21:41] <wikiwill> Okay, well what i would like to do is play games that use steam for DRM, but play them on linux. these games do not have a linux version, and WINE seems to be the best option.
[21:41] <gmachine_24> ha. schrodingersScat... funny name
[21:42] <ralphthewindowsu> why is a poop joke funny gmachine_24 ?
[21:42] <SchrodingersScat> wikiwill: worth a shot, good luck.
[21:42] <wikiwill> Yes it is worth a shot, but the problem is it isn't working, i was hoping the IRC could provide insight?
[21:44] <SchrodingersScat> wikiwill: that's not very ubuntu related, results may vary as it is.  have you checked the winehq database for whatever you're trying to play?
[21:45] <jojo_> wikiwill: If I were in your position, I would go out and buy a second HDD or partition the hard drive I'm on and dual boot windows and linux
[21:45] <wikiwill> schrodingersscat: you're right, my mistake. the winehq database says the steam client works flawlessly
[21:45] <jojo_> Wine itself creates a sort of VM environment that can affect performance, anyway, so you still might not get what you want
[21:46] <wikiwill> jojo_: already done, but I'd like to get ubuntu working as a replacement for windows
[21:46] <SchrodingersScat> wikiwill: the client maybe, but you should check the game, but the client should also have steps you need to take to install, etc.
[21:46] <jojo_> I understand, but sometimes you just can't replace everything
[21:46] <jojo_> but I get it, I loathe Microsoft
[21:47] <SchrodingersScat> wikiwill: ask them why they don't support linux and hate freedom.
[21:48] <wikiwill> schrodingersscat: all the game's i've tried have tried to launch steam for DRM before launching themselves, and those that did not use it for DRM worked. I followed necessary steps to install(i think). I'm not sure that Valve(the company who makes steam) hates linux, maybe freedom, but they won't answer anyway
[21:49] <jojo_> steam does not hate linux
[21:49] <jojo_> I think it's the game manufacturers tying their hands behind their backs
[21:50] <MonkeyDust> wikiwill  by struggling, maybe you can become a linux-steam expert yourself
[21:50] <wikiwill> jojo_: no, in this case the issue is steam isn't launching
[21:50] <jojo_> but I know that there is talk about making Sabayon Linux the official distro for linux gaming
[21:51] <jojo_> steam not working != steam community hates linux, lol
[21:51] <gmachine_24> ralphthewindowsu: in reply to your question about schrodingersscat please see http://pastebin.com/npQ6jVSS
[21:51] <jojo_> just means theres a bug or something
[21:51] <wikiwill> jojo_: yes, thats why i responded "im not sure valve hates linux"
[21:52] <wikiwill> but ill look elsewhere, thanks
[21:55] <jojo_> aah, my bad
[21:56] <kreuger> Alright guys so here's my issue. I can't login to my computer which has  Lubuntu 12.10 (I believe). When I boot it up, the Xubuntu wallpaper comes up (I havent changed it) and nothing happens. If I hit ctrl+alt+f1 to try and get a terminal, I just get a blank screen and blinking cursor. Eventually I get part of the loading sign and that's it. Ive recorded a video on my phone and put it here http://www.youtube.com/
[21:56] <kreuger> watch?v=15qY4ugYUp4
[21:56] <FloodBot1> kreuger: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:57] <kreuger> Stupid bot. It's not a flood.
[21:57] <EminentDomain> doug1 yes i know what raspberry pi is and have been using one
[21:57] <EminentDomain> just curious about the mini pc sticks
[21:58] <jojo_> krueger, have you installed an alternative window manager for X11?
[21:58] <jojo_> such as XMonad or dwm?
[21:59] <kreuger> It has OpenBox. Originally I was using Xubuntu, then I switched to LXDE
[22:00] <kreuger> I thought originally it was a video driver issue. Im not sure now
[22:00] <YPanzer> Hi everybody. I need some little help with WeeChat
[22:01] <YPanzer> is somebody who use it for the chat ?
[22:02] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | YPanzer
[22:02] <MonkeyDust> YPanzer  450+ people in #weechat
[22:03] <jojo_> krueger: have you checked to make sure you installed all of the lxde components including the lxde login manager?
[22:03] <jojo_> you might need to make sure have fully uninstalled the old login manager, as well
[22:03] <YPanzer> SchrodingersScat: ok, I have the nick already registred with NickServ with assigned password. How to make /connect to certain server using nich/pass?
[22:03] <jojo_> if you switched to a new one
[22:04] <kreuger> Yeah, It used to work before. I think something got mixed up when I upgraded to 12.10. I haven't been able to use the computer for over a yr and havent really needed it but my laptop is running out of space so I need it now. I switched to LightDM from the lxde login manager
[22:05] <SchrodingersScat> YPanzer: http://www.weechat.org/files/doc/devel/weechat_quickstart.en.html#irc_server_options
[22:09] <kreuger> jojo_, any more ideas?
[22:12] <YPanzer> SchrodingersScat: Thaks
[22:13] <YPanzer> SchrodingersScat: thanks
[22:14] <SchrodingersScat> YPanzer: welcome.
[22:18] <devyncjohnson> Where is the best place to offer Ubuntu-developers ideas for Ubuntu?
[22:18] <devyncjohnson> I am wanting to be a "think-tank" for Ubuntu.
[22:18] <linux_dr> I'm picking through the docs on upstart... can anyone help my configure Saucy Salamander to have OpenSSHd start up *AFTER* the system is in an otherwise stable state?
[22:20] <honestemu> What do you guys use as an IM client? I'm using pidgin, but it doesn't seem to have group-chat support for Google or Facebook. Any recommendations or possible solutions?
[22:20] <devyncjohnson> I use Pidgin for Google's hangouts.
[22:21] <mikael_> #smartphone
[22:22] <honestemu> devyncjohnson:So group chat works?
[22:23] <devyncjohnson> @honestemu yes. here is documentation - https://support.google.com/a/answer/49147?hl=en
[22:25] <bjrohan> I just installed a router as an AP, it is on .135 on my main router. This new AP has a USB port on it with a drive attached. How can I figure out how to access that drive? would it be on a particular port on that machine?
[22:26] <devyncjohnson> I will be back after a while. I will leave Pidgin on so I can see what was said while I was gone.
[22:27] <kreuger> Someone please help :(
[22:28] <bekks> kreuger: you have to specify a problem first :)
[22:28] <kreuger> bekks, I have. And included a video too
[22:29] <SuperLag> I'm going crazy.
[22:29] <SuperLag> Can you change the hotkey for the Unity menu?
[22:29] <bekks> kreuger: Well, I will not watch a video describing a problem. Would you mind to repeat the problem description?
[22:29] <SuperLag> I'm using many VMs on my laptop, and I want the Super key to active the menu only in the VM... but not in the host
[22:30] <kreuger> bekks, it's not a video describing, it's showing exactly what happens because it's easier than trying to explain. basically I can't get a display manager to log in. And hitting the hotkeys for terminal doesnt work either
[22:30] <SuperLag> Dash, sorry. Dash.
[22:30] <SuperLag> Can I change what key activates Dash? like Ctrl-Super, even?
[22:33] <SuperLag> I think I figured it out. compizconfig-settings-manager
[22:35] <MonkeyDust> SuperLag  is this useful? dconf-editor, org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings
[22:35] <hellmen33> bonsoir a tous
[22:36] <YOURBESTFRIEND> !fr | hellmen33
[22:36] <hellmen33> un conseil pour un jeu installé sur playonlinux ?
[22:40] <bekks> kreuger: did you boot up in rescue mode to investigate the logs?