[00:20] <IrcsomeBot2> Leequen Dou was added by: Jonathan русских
[00:23] <valorie> removed and blocked
[00:34] <Eickmeyer> valorie: Not from Telegram.
[00:35] <valorie> well, it was, but forwarded somehow
[00:35] <valorie> do you still see it there?
[00:35] <Eickmeyer> Yes, I do.
 Definitely still in the backlog.
[00:35] <valorie> do you have Powerz?
 I don't have powerz except in the Ubuntu Studio groups on TG.
[00:35] <valorie> well, I did my best
[00:36] <valorie> lemme give you power
 :)
[00:36] <valorie> I use tg hardly at all unless traveling
[00:36] <valorie> trying to replace it with Matrix
 I might add Matrix to Studio in the future, but one step at a time.
[00:37] <valorie> you are now an admin in this group on tg
 valorie: Thanks, and done.
[00:38] <valorie> excellent
[00:38] <valorie> thanks
[00:38] <Eickmeyer> You're quite welcome.
[01:53] <IrcsomeBot2> Paul Austin was added by: Paul Austin
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[04:22] <Randoon> hi all
[04:22] <Randoon> how is everyone?
[04:22] <jacky> I'm well
[04:22] <Randoon> sweet
[04:22] <jacky> looking to see if I can get telepathy-tank into a PPA
[04:23] <Randoon> sounds like fun
[04:23] <Randoon> lol
[04:23] <jacky> eh lol
[04:23] <Randoon> I'm having a problem myself
[04:23] <jacky> what's up?
[04:23] <Randoon> I am trying to boot kubuntu 18.04.2 via usb stick on my system with secure boot enabled
[04:23] <Randoon> oddly enough, the first time I booted it it worked fine
[04:23] <Randoon> but I backed out of the install as I was having an issue
[04:25] <Randoon> now when I try to boot the usb stick I get this:
[04:25] <Randoon> Failed to open \EFI\BOOT\mxx64.efi - Not Found
[04:25] <Randoon> Failed to load image \EFI\BOOT\mxx64.efi - Not Found
[04:25] <Randoon> Failed to start MokManager: Not Found
[04:25] <Randoon> Something has gone seriously wrong: import_mok_state() failed
[04:25] <Randoon> : Not Found
[04:26] <jacky> Has the USB boot disk been modified in any way?
[04:26] <Randoon> no
[04:27] <Randoon> so I re-created it because I thought exactly that...but same error...so I burned a DVD and same error
[04:27] <jacky> Hm. There's a chance that the boot loader wasn't fully installed when you had that issue
[04:27] <jacky> the boot loader on your machine, that is.
[04:27] <Randoon> so how can I fix that?
[04:27] <jacky> Can you confirm that you can boot _directly_ to the USB boot disk and/or DVD?
[04:27] <jacky> That depends on how your system lets you pick which device to boot from
[04:28] <Randoon> k..well, I go into my uefi setup and select my usb stick as a boot device
[04:28] <Randoon> and I immediately get those errors
[04:28] <jacky> Hm. That's odd. What kind of hardware are you working with?
[04:29] <Randoon> Asrock AB350 Pro 4 mobo..Ryzen 5 1600x
[04:29] <Randoon> pretty standard stuff...I know I could always turn off secure boot..but I'd rather fix the issue
[04:30] <jacky> I don't know if it's a secure boot issue than an issue with missing UEFI data on your home machine
[04:31] <Randoon> here's the thing...there is no \EFI\BOOT\mxx64.efi file ...even in the .iso file when I open it in windows
[04:31] <jacky> in the boot partition?
[04:32] <Randoon> there's \EFI\BOOT\BOOTx64.efi
[04:32] <Randoon> and \EFI\BOOT\grubx64.efi
[04:33] <jacky> Hm. I'd suggest moving those files out into another partition and removing that boot partition altogether and trying that.
[04:34] <Randoon> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1798171
[04:34] <Randoon> I'm looking at this now
[04:37] <jacky> Possibly a fix on your end that you can attempt? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1798171/comments/37
[04:39] <Randoon> yeah..maybe I'll try that
[04:39] <Randoon> it appears to be a bug in grub2
[04:44] <Randoon> https://wiki.debian.org/UEFI#Force_grub-efi_installation_to_the_removable_media_path
[04:44] <Randoon> this seems to explain it quite well
[06:09] <batuhan> TÜRK VAR MIII ******************
[06:09] <batuhan> batuhanzi
 I have an existing caldav set up in Kubuntu for Korganizer. I created another Nextcloud account for NC15 (NC13 would not update) and set up a caldav in Korg also. It picked up the Birthdays from KaddressBook. Copying the other calendars within Korg to the new NC15 folder in Korg shows they transfersed - but they do not show up in view nor will they sync with the server.
[10:48] <Alexfrench> hello anyone have already switch to 19.04 ?
 i just did
[11:01] <Alexfrench> and ?
 seems fine so far
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[15:39] <dimitri> Hello!
[15:39] <dimitri> It's a pity newest version on Kubuntu doesn't run o 32bit machines :(
[15:40] <dimitri> *on
[15:53] <Alexfrench> did it yet exists 32 bits computers ??
[15:54] <CoCo_Kid594> what version do I need to download?  I've got the 33% format blues?\
[15:55] <CoCo_Kid594> Even tried a manual one.. I tried just leaving a blank space..
[15:56] <CoCo_Kid594> Why does it seem such a bitch to get past this..
[16:07] <Lope> the Kubuntu 18.04 installer is broken with regards to installing onto anything manual relating to LUKS
[16:08] <Lope> If I select manual, then tell it to use /dev/vda2 as a physical volume for encryption, it doesn't proceed to ask me for a password or do anything at all further.
[16:09] <Lope> If I manually do a luksFormat and mount it manually setup LVM manually, the installer will install / to one of the LV's but then the system can't boot. It doesn't ask for a password on boot, thus the LVM doesn't appear, and the kernel is stuck looking for the LVM.
[16:10] <Lope> I also tried to setup LVM (manually) directly on vda2 and then created a LV for the root fs manually, then told the installer I want to use that LV as a physical volume for encryption. Again the installer failed to ask for a password or do anything further at all.
[16:10] <Lope> I also tried to manually luksFormat and mount the lv. But the installer wasn't able to install the root fs to it either.
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[20:05] <Randuni> hi all
[20:06] <IrcsomeBot2> katnipp was added by: katnipp
[20:07] <Randuni> I have a question, when I boot Kubuntu 18.04.2 and choose a guided installation, and I go to select my drive to install on, it only shows my RAID array.  It doesn't show my other 2 solid state drives, but if I go to manual..it shows the other 2 drives
[20:07] <Randuni> but I'd rather use the guided setup..any ideas?
[20:08] <Randuni> the two SSDs are on a different controller, maybe that is affecting it?..
[20:09] <bprompt> Randuni:    I'd think not, could be, but why not just use the manual?  is what I use all the time :/
[20:10] <Randuni> I guess I will have to
[20:11] <Randuni> okay..so I will create a / partition, a swap partition and do I need an EFI partition?
[20:11] <Randuni> actually..I guess the question is..do I even need a swap partition...I have 16GB RAM
[20:12] <Randuni> and from what I've heard a swap partition on an SSD is not necessarily a good idea anyways
[20:13] <bprompt> Randuni:    is up to what you use, are you going to be using a virtual machine hypervisor? if so, then you can benefit from more RAM, if not, maybe you don't need to, are you going to be using 3D modeling? if so, then more than 16gbs will help, otherwise not
[20:17] <bprompt> Randuni:    a swap on an SSD is not a bad idea, and yes, the SSD data retrieval will be almost as fast as a ram waffer, however, having a swap on an SSD will have the benefit of having a "ramdrive"
[20:19] <Randuni> right..thanks!
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[00:00] <blami> RAOF: at least that was what I saw on latest FUDcon
[00:00] <blami> RAOF: but it is very nice to hear that Ubuntu is on bleeding edge in this thing
[00:24] <PovAddict> where can I find compilation logs of packages in ubuntu?
[00:26] <directhex> PovAddict, which package specifically?
[00:26] <PovAddict> libpqxx-3.1
[00:27] <directhex> 3.1-1.1 ?
[00:27] <PovAddict> yes
[00:28] <directhex> right hand side of https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libpqxx3/3.1-1.1, under "Builds"
[00:28] <directhex> then click "buildlog" for the given architecture
[00:28] <directhex> e.g. https://launchpadlibrarian.net/106411712/buildlog_ubuntu-quantal-i386.libpqxx3_3.1-1.1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[00:32] <PovAddict> matches debian wrt the part I was wondering... so I still don't know what the heck is going on
[00:33] <PovAddict> http://paste.kde.org/630830/
[07:19] <tjaalton> infinity: i did, and it woould make sense. not sure if i have it on or off
[07:23] <infinity> tjaalton: Hasn't hung since I disabled it earlier today, though that's not very scientific.  Will probably have to give it a week.
[07:23] <infinity> tjaalton: But turning it on may at least help you reproduce, if you're interested.
[07:42] <tjaalton> infinity: yeah, quite likely
[14:01] <stgraber> tkamppeter_: hmm, can't you testbuild on your nexus7? 13 uploads of xbmc in a month seems a bit excessive :)
[22:49] <blami> hi, i have question regarding the ppa and ubuntu packaging. I have git tree of project I am contributing to and I want to be able to create source package for my personal ppa directly from it. Do I understand correctly I will need to package current state of tree (a single checkout) to orig tar and then build a debian package from it?
[22:52] <blami> also is there best practice for maintaining ubuntu package directly from the git source tree? I can't push my debian/ directory upstream for obvious reasons s I have it uncommited in source tree, but would be nice if I could version my changes there in bzr branch, but reading through docs I'm definitely missing something as all guides I was able to find start from upstream .tar.gz
[23:06] <bkerensa> Happy Holidays!
[23:24] <dobey> blami: you can create an import branch on launchpad for the project in question, so that it will import the git tree into a bzr branch. if your git tree has ever had submodules though, this will likely break. then you can create a bzr branch with the contents of the debian/ dir you wish to use for packaging, and create a source package recipe which uses the imported bzr branch, and nests the external debian branch in the debia
[23:24] <dobey> blami: or you can create a tarball release, and do a normal package that way
[23:31] <blami> dobey: to use source recipe do I need the project itself in bzr branch?
[23:34] <blami> and when I import it to bzr does it mean lp will track git repo for me or do I need poke it everytime when I change something in "upstream" (my git tree)? It sounds a little bit 'overengineered' to me to have a chain of two vcs'es to just build package with local changes
[23:43] <dobey> blami: yes, the code has to be in a bzr branch to use the source recipe
[23:43] <dobey> and yes, lp will auto-import new revisions for imported branches
[23:45] <blami> dobey: thanks I will look into this. Is there any doc on source recipes? I'm fairly new to ubuntu and still getting familiar with all those amazing things around lp
[23:46] <dobey> there's documentation on launchpad


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[12:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67856 in network-manager (main) "Spanish Translation needs an urgent correction" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67856
[12:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67857 in update-notifier (main) "install updates button doesn't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67857
[12:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67858 in eclipse (universe) ""eclipse" package needed for /usr/bin/eclipse, lots of deps" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67858
[12:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67860 in evolution (main) "[Edgy]  Some strings can't be translated" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67860
[12:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67861 in Ubuntu "Logout ui is off center" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67861
[12:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67859 in xserver-xorg-driver-i810 (main) "driver fails to read BIOS video mode 1400x1050 on Toshiba M400" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67859
[12:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67864 in Ubuntu "Edubuntu 6.10 RC displays blank screen after boot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67864
[12:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67865 in python-defaults (main) "python crashes when activating ntp" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67865
[12:43] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67866 in pygtk (main) "Program aborted (core dump) when new OptionGroup created." [Unknown,Unknown]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67866
[12:43] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67867 in Ubuntu "Ubuntu and Xubuntu won't boot with ATI FireGL2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67867
[12:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67868 in watchdog (universe) "Watchdog intermittently returns "Host Unreachable" errors on should-be-OK pings" [Unknown,Unknown]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67868
[12:53] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67869 in Ubuntu "i810 not recognized (after upgrade dapper->edgy)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67869
[01:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67870 in gnome-applets (main) "[edgy-regression]  drivemount applet (Disk Mounter) completely blank" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67870
[01:07] <crimsun> err, why was 67869 filed if he already filed 67559?
[01:14] <robitaille> crimsun:  to get our attention?
[01:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67874 in ubiquity (main) "Installer crashes after 30% on RC" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67874
[01:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67875 in linux-meta (main) "[EDGY]  Battery not detected on Edgy using linux-image-2.6.17-10 with Acer Ferrar 4005 Laptop" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67875
[01:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67876 in gnome-system-tools (main) "ipw2200/Intel 2915abg Wireless 128-bit WEP doesn't work, must set up manually" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67876
[01:57] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67878 in Ubuntu "Ubuntu 6.10 RC LiveCD works on 2nd monitor but not first" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67878
[02:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67881 in network-manager-pptp (universe) "Crash while trying to connect to PPTP server" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67881
[02:54] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67882 in scribus-ng (universe) "can not enter Chinese in scribus and lyx." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67882
[03:17] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67883 in gfxboot (main) "Please add system beep when live CD boot options menu appears" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67883
[03:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67884 in egoboo (universe) "egoboo won't start" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67884
[03:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67885 in scrollkeeper (main) "scrollkeeper keeps 197 copies of the same file on DesktopCD" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67885
[04:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67886 in firefox (main) "Firefox crash when a theme is selected" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67886
[04:38] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67889 in Ubuntu "(edgy) KDE crashes when logout is canceled" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67889
[04:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67890 in gnome-power-manager (main) "gnome power manager wishes to shut down when first of two batteries is critical" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67890
[04:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67891 in ubiquity (main) "Choosing to erase entire disk during install should still mount partitions from second hard drive." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67891
[04:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67892 in hplip (main) "HPLIP failed to start PyQt/Qt missing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67892
[05:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67893 in ubiquity (main) "Option to create a separate /home partition when erasing entire disk during install." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67893
[05:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67894 in kdebase (main) "Keycode 111 starts ksnapshot (hardcoded?)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67894
[05:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67895 in xfdesktop4 (main) "Crash during logout" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67895
[05:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67896 in thunar (main) "Thunar Crash on logout - Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67896
[05:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67897 in cupsys (main) "CUPS drops jobs, reprints 'old' jobs with wrong options after a restart" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67897
[06:28] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67898 in tomboy (main) "Note already exists" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67898
[07:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67901 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "conflict between ueagle-atm and eagle-usb in 2.6.17 edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67901
[07:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67902 in hardinfo (universe) "Crash when selecting "Storage"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67902
[07:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67903 in amaya (universe) "content duplication in page source causes crash and invalid documents" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67903
[08:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67880 in Ubuntu "Ubuntu 6.10 RC LiveCD does not detect SOYO BayOne XP usb card reader" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67880
[08:05] <jsgotangco> wow so specific
[08:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67879 in Ubuntu "manual update problem (dapper)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67879
[08:08] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67900 in zsh-beta (universe) "add-shell zsh" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67900
[08:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67904 in rhythmbox (main) "Rhythmbox crashes while playing (Edgy)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67904
[08:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67905 in Ubuntu "Thunderbird New Card panel has no Cancel or OK buttons" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67905
[08:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67906 in Ubuntu "CPU Temperature: Edgy vs. Dapper" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67906
[08:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67907 in ntp (main) "Synchronisation with GPS disabled" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67907
[09:01] <Kagou> hi
[09:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67908 in cupsys (main) "paper format on distant printers" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67908
[09:23] <thoreauputic> @ubuntu-docs
[09:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67911 in powersave (universe) "no speedstepping on turion64" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67911
[09:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67914 in amavisd-new (universe) "Please update amavisd-new to 2.4.3 ( latest release )" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67914
[09:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67913 in update-manager (main) "unable to install pound during dapper to edgy dist-upgrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67913
[10:05] <dholbach> good morning
[10:08] <pradeep> morning dholbach
[10:08] <dholbach> heya pradeep
[10:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67915 in eclipse-cdt (universe) "feature request: CDT-3.1.1 or at least something more recent than 3.0.1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67915
[10:52] <pepsiman> Which program displays the GNOME "Log Out, Lock Screen, Switch User..." dialog?
[10:53] <dholbach> pepsiman: gnome-session is the package
[10:53] <pepsiman> thx
[10:59] <pepsiman> dholbach: bug 67919
[10:59] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 67919 in gnome-session "Xinerama problem with log out dialogue" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67919
[11:01] <dholbach> oh yeah, i see
[11:01] <pepsiman> it's a bit annoying, my wife isn't going to like it
[11:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67916 in gaim (main) "again, told to send this report" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67916
[11:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67917 in gtk+2.0 (main) "Bug #61835 it's happening again, no grid-lines" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67917
[11:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67919 in gnome-session (main) "Xinerama problem with log out dialogue" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67919
[11:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67925 in Ubuntu "Do not ship translations without matching input support" [High,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67925
[11:22] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67918 in gamin (main) "Gam_server crashing every time a system beep is triggered by firefox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67918
[11:28] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67928 in Ubuntu "need scroll bar in assigning mount point window" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67928
[11:38] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67935 in netbase (main) "Interface lo does not wake up in edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67935
[11:42] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67932 in initramfs-tools (main) "conf.d/resume creation in preinst doesn't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67932
[11:42] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67936 in gnome-system-tools (main) "[network-admin]  Crash when starting from menu." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67936
[11:59] <pepsiman> dholbach: can you confirm bug 67698
[11:59] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 67698 in gnome-session "After dist-upgrade, default session changed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67698
[12:00] <dholbach>  no, I can't
[12:01] <pepsiman> dholbach: how about if I tell you a quick way to reproduce?
[12:01] <dholbach> I'm currently busy doing edgy cd test installs
[12:02] <pepsiman> ok
[12:02] <dholbach> sorry
[12:02] <pepsiman> np.  anyone else?
[12:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67940 in Ubuntu "internalInternal modem recongnized/works 5.10 ppc not 6.06/6.10" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67940
[12:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67941 in Ubuntu "Installation of Kubuntu <IP_ADDRESS> does not work " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67941
[12:32] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67942 in openoffice.org (main) "(Some) Form Buttons Flicker" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67942
[12:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67929 in gnome-system-tools (main) "[users-admin]  usability bugs related to new users creation" [Wishlist,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67929
[12:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67944 in kde-guidance (main) "cannot load module serviceconfig" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67944
[01:02] <pepsiman> seb128: The alternative was set manually
[01:03] <seb128> pepsiman: manual alternative should not be dropped, looks like an alternative bug
[01:03] <pepsiman> seb128: yes, that's why I reported it
[01:03] <pepsiman> want a patch?
[01:04] <seb128> you are speaking about the bug reassigning to gnome-session?
[01:04] <pepsiman> bug 67698
[01:04] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 67698 in gnome-session "After dist-upgrade, default session changed" [Low,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67698
[01:04] <seb128> it looks like a dpkg bug
[01:04] <seb128> update-alternatives is not shipped with gnome-session
[01:04] <pepsiman> no, gnome-session removes its alternative in prerm on upgrades
[01:04] <pepsiman> it shouldn't
[01:05] <seb128> right, and reinstall it with postinst
[01:05] <pepsiman> it's too late then, the manual setting has been removed
[01:05] <pepsiman> most other packages get this right, only remove in prerm on remove
[01:06] <seb128> are you sure than removing the alternative should break what you set manually?
[01:07] <pepsiman> yes, otherwise the symlink will be broken
[01:07] <seb128> I've had cases with the symlink broken
[01:07] <seb128> I'm not sure than the alternative system doesn't respect your choice anyway
[01:07] <seb128> I've to play with it
[01:07] <pepsiman> check the prerm of other packages, you'll see that gnome-session is different to the others
[01:07] <seb128> $ cat galeon-common.prerm
[01:07] <seb128> #! /bin/sh
[01:07] <seb128> set -e
[01:07] <seb128> case "$1" in
[01:07] <seb128>     remove|upgrade|deconfigure)
[01:07] <seb128>         # unregister Galeon as an alternative for gnome-www-browser
[01:08] <seb128>         update-alternatives --remove gnome-www-browser /usr/bin/galeon || true
[01:08] <seb128>         # and for for x-www-browser
[01:08] <seb128>         update-alternatives --remove x-www-browser /usr/bin/galeon || true
[01:08] <seb128>
[01:08] <seb128> by example
[01:08] <seb128> I'm doing so
[01:08] <pepsiman> seb128: I'll add a task for galeon
[01:08] <seb128> bah
[01:08] <pepsiman> check bash.prerm
[01:08] <seb128> I would rather make sure it's a bug first
[01:08] <seb128> right, different packages make it different ways
[01:09] <seb128> doesn't mean one of them is bugged
[01:09] <pepsiman> I'll check lintian/linda
[01:09] <seb128> I need to read the Debian policy about that
[01:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67945 in desktop-base (main) "Clearlooks theme doesn't honor colors of monitor panels" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67945
[01:10] <seb128> "In manual mode, the alternatives system will not change the links; it will leave  all  the
[01:10] <seb128>        decisions to the system administrator."
[01:11] <pepsiman> "Removing manually selected alternative - switching to auto mode"
[01:11] <seb128> where do you read that?
[01:11] <pepsiman> in my last comment on the bug
[01:12] <seb128> hum, k
[01:13] <seb128> I don't like alternatives, that's not new :p
[01:13] <pepsiman> xfce and gnome have the same priority
[01:14] <seb128> k, lunch time there
[01:14] <seb128> removing the "update" case seems fine to me
[01:14] <seb128> I'll do that for edgy+1
[01:14] <pepsiman> can I add tasks for galeon, etc
[01:15] <seb128> sure
[01:15] <pepsiman> k, thx
[01:15] <seb128> rename the bug maybe
[01:15] <seb128> something like "prerm should not remove alternative on update"
[01:15] <seb128> thank *you* for working on that ;)
[01:16] <pepsiman> np
[01:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67946 in Ubuntu "Installation problem - Language Selection Screen" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67946
[01:25] <jonh_wendell> good morning, folks
[01:26] <Nafallo> morning
[01:26] <jonh_wendell> someone using evolution [edgy]  here?
[01:26] <Nafallo> yes
[01:26] <jonh_wendell> Nafallo: can you confirm a bug for me?
[01:27] <Nafallo> no idea :-)
[01:27] <Nafallo> I can try though
[01:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67947 in camorama (universe) "UVF: camorama: 0.17 -> 0.18" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67947
[01:31] <jonh_wendell> Nafallo: go to edit/preferences/tasks
[01:32] <jonh_wendell> Nafallo: in general tab, check timezone
[01:32] <jonh_wendell> Nafallo: go to south america
[01:33] <jonh_wendell> Nafallo: verify Maceio or Sao_Paulo. Which timezone is showed?
[01:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67948 in Ubuntu "Installation problem - Date Time Setting" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67948
[01:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67949 in Ubuntu "no "Preferred Applications" in "K-Menu->System Settings->User Account" " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67949
[01:36] <Nafallo> ehrm, after changing the time_zone, where can I verify it?
[01:37] <jonh_wendell> Nafallo: you don't need to change it. Just look the timezone (UTC -2) or something like that
[01:38] <Nafallo> yes, UTC -2
[01:39] <Nafallo> same for both
[01:39] <jonh_wendell> Nafallo: thanks. This is a bug, it should be -3
[01:39] <jonh_wendell> seb128: do you use evolution too?
[01:40] <Nafallo> oki
[01:40] <Nafallo> it's not just because of daylight saving changes?
[01:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67951 in Ubuntu "Buttons on unlock dialog or in English, not the native language" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67951
[01:44] <jonh_wendell> Nafallo: no
[01:44] <Nafallo> okidoki :-)
[01:48] <xerxas> Hi
[01:48] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67950 in Ubuntu "Installation problem - Install Progress Freeze / Error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67950
[01:48] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67952 in kdeartwork (main) "Screensaver starts, but shows a large white X, instead of the choosen screensaver" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67952
[01:48] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67953 in democracyplayer (universe) "Crash while playing a video" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67953
[01:49] <xerxas> is a bug in "need info" state not confirmed ?
[01:49] <xerxas> I can confirm a bug that needs some more information to be reproducible
[01:50] <jonh_wendell> xeros: no
[01:51] <xerxas> jonh_wendell, how do I deal with that , than ?
[01:52] <jonh_wendell> xerxas: you need to wait the info from reporter
[01:52] <xerxas> jonh_wendell,  I encountered a bug, I went in malone and saw some else has this bug
[01:52] <jonh_wendell> xerxas: this bug you're talking happens with you? if so, you can confirm
[01:52] <xerxas> I added some information on it but I'm not able to reproduce it
[01:53] <jonh_wendell> xeros: which bug number?
[01:53] <xerxas> It was confirmed but I putted it in needs info state
[01:53] <xerxas> bug #65795
[01:53] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 65795 in vino "vino won't accept my password" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65795
[01:55] <Nafallo> xerxas: needs info means the assigne needs more info before he can fix it. just state that you have it and either ask what info is needed or provide the info if you already know what he wants.
[01:55] <jonh_wendell> xerxas: i do use vino and this never happened with me :)
[01:56] <xerxas> jonh_wendell, then ?
[01:56] <xerxas> it happenned to me
[01:56] <jonh_wendell> xerxas: really i don't know :(
[01:57] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67954 in mouseemu (universe) "mouseemu prevents detection of Power button event" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67954
[01:58] <xerxas> jonh_wendell, :)
[01:58] <xerxas> Nafallo,  can you have a look at #65795 , I think it should stay in need info
[01:59] <xerxas> I didn't find steps to repair this problem within the package
[02:02] <Nafallo> naah, seb128 will see it later
[02:02] <Nafallo> just let him change stuff :-)
[02:03] <seb128> re
[02:03] <seb128> jonh_wendell: hi, I use evolution, why?
[02:04] <jonh_wendell> seb128: can you look bug 67955
[02:04] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 67955 in evolution "Wrong timezone in 2.8 (edgy)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67955
[02:08] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67955 in evolution (main) "Wrong timezone in 2.8 (edgy)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67955
[02:08] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67956 in mmv (universe) "Segfault" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67956
[02:09] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67957 in grub (main) "update-grub fails to detect "quiet" capability as required by the quieten-grub spec" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67957
[02:17] <xerxas> bug 65795, this is a translation problem
[02:17] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 65795 in vino "vino won't accept my password" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65795
[02:17] <xerxas> oops
[02:17] <xerxas> bug 67951
[02:17] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 67951 in Ubuntu "Buttons on unlock dialog or in English, not the native language" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67951
[02:18] <xerxas> I see it in my native language (french)
[02:18] <xerxas> this needs rosetta translations, right ?
[02:18] <xerxas> can I close the bug ?
[02:24] <seb128> jonh_wendell: Sao_Paulo is UTC-2 according to tzconfig too
[02:26] <jonh_wendell> seb128: no. most brazil is utc -3
[02:26] <seb128> jonh_wendell: I just tried tzconfig and it says Sao_Paulo is UTC-2, that's not really a question
[02:27] <seb128> jonh_wendell: I mean, the issue is not specific to evolution, it happens with tzconfig too
[02:27] <seb128> might be a tzdata issue then
[02:27] <pepsiman> xerxas: assign it to ubuntu-l10n-nl ?
[02:29] <jonh_wendell> seb128: can you tell me the entire command that shows Sao_Paulo utc-2?
[02:29] <seb128> jonh_wendell: tzconfig, pick Sao_Paulo, look at what it says about new time used
[02:30] <jonh_wendell> seb128: that's what i did
[02:30] <jonh_wendell> Name: []  Sao_Paulo
[02:30] <jonh_wendell> Your default time zone is set to 'America/Sao_Paulo'.
[02:30] <jonh_wendell> Local time is now:      Ter Out 24 09:30:21 BRT 2006.
[02:30] <jonh_wendell> Universal Time is now:  Ter Out 24 12:30:21 UTC 2006.
[02:31] <jonh_wendell> seb128: see? -3 from universal
[02:31] <seb128> Name: []  Sao_Paulo
[02:31] <seb128> Your default time zone is set to 'America/Sao_Paulo'.
[02:31] <seb128> Local time is now:      Tue Oct 24 10:31:33 BRST 2006.
[02:31] <seb128> Universal Time is now:  Tue Oct 24 12:31:33 UTC 2006.
[02:31] <jonh_wendell> seb128: BRST
[02:31] <jonh_wendell> seb128: you're using daylight saving time
[02:31] <jonh_wendell> seb128: i'm not using
[02:32] <seb128> Local time is now:      mardi 24 octobre 2006, 10:32:38 (UTC-0200).
[02:32] <seb128> that's with a french locale
[02:32] <seb128> it says "UTC-0200"
[02:33] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67958 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "avma1_cs driver fails in kernel 2.6.17 when inserting pcmcia card" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67958
[02:33] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67959 in firefox (main) "FF 2.0 keeps crashing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67959
[02:33] <jonh_wendell> seb128: i mean BRST is using daylight saving time. i'm not using it. I did not check this option in evolution
[02:33] <seb128> all that is confusing for me
[02:34] <jonh_wendell> seb128: when i run tzconfig ans choose America/Sao_Paulo, it showed me: Local time is now:      Ter Out 24 09:30:21 BRT 2006
[02:34] <jonh_wendell> seb128: see the BRT 2006
[02:34] <seb128> yeah, that I understand
[02:35] <jonh_wendell> seb128: when you run the same command on your machine, you got  Local time is now:      Tue Oct 24 10:31:33 BRST 2006
[02:35] <seb128> what is Sao_Paulo time?
[02:35] <jonh_wendell> seb128: my system is configured to NOT use daylight saving time
[02:35] <seb128> UTC-4,UTC-3 or UTF-3,UTF-2 ?
[02:36] <jonh_wendell> seb128: 9:35
[02:36] <pepsiman> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC-3
[02:36] <jonh_wendell> UTC-3
[02:36] <seb128> well
[02:36] <seb128> the question is not your system
[02:36] <seb128> it's what Sao_Paulo uses
[02:36] <seb128> then we can see what software is doing
[02:36] <seb128> they have summer and winter time?
[02:36] <pepsiman> Sao_paulo uses UTC-3
[02:36] <seb128> are those -4,-3 or -3,-2
[02:36] <seb128> pepsiman: they don't change during winter?
[02:36] <jonh_wendell> seb128: in november will come the summer time, which changes timezone to UTC-2
[02:37] <seb128> -3 the whole year?
[02:37] <seb128> ok
[02:37] <seb128> so it's -3,-2
[02:37] <jonh_wendell> seb128: btw, i do NOT use summer time
[02:37] <seb128> jonh_wendell: don't try skipping steps please, you are only confusing me
[02:37] <seb128> jonh_wendell: I try to understand what are the real world datas first
[02:37] <seb128> then we can look at software and summer time or not
[02:38] <pepsiman> seb128: wikipedia isn't helping me to answer that question
[02:39] <pepsiman> ah, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time#Brazil
[02:40] <jonh_wendell> seb128: what i'm trying to say is: there is a checkbox in evolution that enable/disable daylight saving time. I don't have it checked. So, it's expected that evolution use the timezone i've configured.
[02:41] <seb128> jonh_wendell: right, and I'm trying to understand if the bug is due to the locale or to evolution
[02:41] <seb128> jonh_wendell: and it looks like tzconfig is wrong
[02:42] <seb128> jonh_wendell: which means it's a tzdata issue and not an evolution one
[02:42] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67961 in Ubuntu "use more up-to-date seed mirror" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67961
[02:42] <jonh_wendell> seb128: does evolution get that information from tzconfig?
[02:42] <seb128> jonh_wendell: from tzdata I think yep
[02:42] <seb128> which is the timezone database
[02:42] <seb128> which tzconfig uses too
[02:43] <jonh_wendell> seb128: i guess no... when i run tzconfig it showed me the correct timezone
[02:44] <seb128> it shows me "Tue Oct 24 10:31:33 BRST 2006"
[02:44] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67960 in pkgsel (main) "please filter language-support packages on server install" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67960
[02:44] <seb128> which seems to be not correct
[02:44] <jonh_wendell> seb128: and clock applet is right too
[02:44] <seb128> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=233 claims
[02:44] <seb128> "Standard time zone:	UTC/GMT -3 hours
[02:44] <seb128> No daylight saving time at the moment"
[02:44] <jonh_wendell> yes
[02:44] <seb128> so "Tue Oct 24 10:31:33 BRST 2006" looks wrong
[02:45] <jonh_wendell> yes
[02:45] <seb128> so tzconfig is wrong on my box
[02:46] <jonh_wendell> seb128: it's curious: why your tzconfig is wrong? i'm using edgy too...
[02:47] <seb128> +Rule   Brazil  2006    max     -       Nov     Sun>=1   0:00   1:00    S
[02:47] <seb128> +Rule   Brazil  2007    max     -       Feb     lastSun  0:00   0       -
[02:47] <seb128> that's a diff with the new tzdata from Debian
[02:49] <seb128> jonh_wendell: what architecture do you use?
[02:49] <jonh_wendell> seb128: 386
[02:49] <seb128> bah, doesn't matter anyway
[02:49] <jonh_wendell> seb128: :)
[02:49] <seb128> http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/t/tzdata/tzdata_2006n-1_all.deb
[02:49] <seb128> you might want to try that package
[02:50] <seb128> let me know if that makes a difference
[02:50] <jonh_wendell> seb128: ok, just a few minutes
[02:50] <seb128> Local time is now:      mardi 24 octobre 2006, 09:50:47 (UTC-0300).
[02:50] <seb128> ah ah
[02:50] <seb128> it fixes it for me :)
[02:52] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67962 in evolution (main) "Wishlist: easy backup of complete evolution data and settings" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67962
[02:52] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67963 in evolution (main) "Wishlist: easy backup of complete evolution data and settings" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67963
[02:53] <jonh_wendell> seb128: :(
[02:54] <seb128> jonh_wendell: what?
[02:54] <jonh_wendell> seb128: repeating: timezone is wrong only in evolution
[02:54] <jonh_wendell> seb128: tzconfig shows the right tz
[02:55] <seb128> there is something weird on your box
[02:55] <seb128> tzconfig gives me a wrong timezone with the edgy tzdata
[02:55] <seb128> which is fixed with the new version I pointed
[02:55] <seb128> that's not normal you get a correct timezone
[02:55] <jonh_wendell> seb128: can you look in evolution?
[02:55] <jonh_wendell> seb128: my tzconfig is right
[02:55] <seb128> sure
[02:55] <seb128> it should not
[02:55] <seb128> tzdata is bugged
[02:56] <seb128> and diff of the source package confirm it
[02:56] <seb128> it's fixed with 2006n
[02:56] <seb128> so tzconfig should be wrong
[02:56] <jonh_wendell> seb128: will it be updated fot final edgy?
[02:56] <seb128> no, CD images are being rolled or have already been rolled
[02:56] <seb128> too late to spot changes to do
[02:57] <jonh_wendell> seb128: edgy-updates?
[02:57] <seb128> that is possible yep
[02:57] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67937 in udev (main) "Lost file on upgrading breezy->edgy (/etc/udev/rules.d/020_permissions.rules)" [Undecided,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67937
[02:57] <seb128> ok
[02:57] <seb128> evolution displays UTC-2 for it
[02:57] <jonh_wendell> ahhhhhhhhh
[02:57] <jonh_wendell> seb128: is evolution wrong?
[02:57] <seb128> yep
[02:58] <seb128> but doesn't explain why your tzconfig is not wrong where it should be
[02:58] <jonh_wendell> indeed
[02:59] <seb128> hum
[02:59] <seb128> time-admin is right now
[03:00] <seb128> ok
[03:01] <seb128> if I pick Sao_Paulo from time-admin with edgy's tzdata the clock is set to 11am
[03:01] <seb128> with the Debian version I pointed it's 10am
[03:01] <jonh_wendell> 10am is the correct
[03:01] <seb128> so there is a tzdata bug and it's fixed with the update
[03:01] <seb128> now let's see why evolution is still wrong
[03:02] <jonh_wendell> seb128: like you said, it's strange that my time-admin was correct, even with broken tzdata package
[03:02] <seb128> yep, that looks yet another issue
[03:02] <jonh_wendell> seb128: maybe a logoff?
[03:02] <seb128> probably not
[03:03] <seb128> I've switched between tzdata versions several time without restarting my session several time
[03:03] <seb128> tzconfig picks the datas correctly
[03:03] <jonh_wendell> seb128: i guess evolution does not use tzconfig
[03:04] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67965 in grub (main) "No 2.6.17-10-386 entry after Dapper -> Edgy upgrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67965
[03:04] <jonh_wendell> seb128: i'm going to logoff
[03:04] <seb128> probably not
[03:04] <jonh_wendell> seb128: just try
[03:04] <seb128> ok
[03:05] <seb128> xerxas: what bug were you speaking about?
[03:06] <jonh_wendell> seb128: same thing
[03:07] <seb128> calendar/libical/zoneinfo/America/Sao_Paulo.ics from evolution-data-server
[03:08] <seb128> BEGIN:DAYLIGHT
[03:08] <seb128> TZOFFSETFROM:-0300
[03:08] <seb128> TZOFFSETTO:-0200
[03:08] <seb128> TZNAME:BRST
[03:08] <seb128> DTSTART:19701011T000000
[03:08] <seb128> RRULE:FREQ=YEARLY;BYMONTH=10;BYDAY=2SU
[03:08] <seb128> END:DAYLIGHT
[03:09] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67966 in xubuntu-docs (main) "Xubuntu -- FIrefox home page still references 6.06" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67966
[03:09] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67968 in acpi (main) "FN + F3 shited to FN + F2 after system update on IBM" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67968
[03:10] <seb128> $ LC_ALL=C date -d 19701011
[03:10] <seb128> Sun Oct 11 00:00:00 CET 1970
[03:10] <seb128>
[03:10] <seb128> e-d-s seems to think summer time starts on oct 11
[03:10] <jonh_wendell> hmmmm
[03:11] <jonh_wendell> seb128: even with that check box unchecked?
[03:11] <seb128> with the checkbox unchecked it uses the correct time on my box
[03:11] <seb128> with new tzdata
[03:11] <seb128> that's only the map displaying UTC-2 wrongly
[03:11] <seb128> if I create a task and set "starting now" it uses 10am
[03:11] <seb128> which means it has the correct time
[03:15] <jonh_wendell> seb128: when i create a new appointment, and set its time to 10:30, the reminder thinks it is 9:30 (calendar gnome applet shows 9:30 when i click on it)
[03:18] <jonh_wendell> seb128: want screenshots? or are you gonna try by yourself?
[03:20] <seb128> jonh_wendell: there is several bugs open about that I think, I'm playing with it atm
[03:20] <seb128> evolution has better to use the same timezone as GNOME or there is an offset like that
[03:21] <seb128> ok
[03:21] <seb128> works fine for me
[03:21] <seb128> jonh_wendell: can you try something? go to evolution, tasks
[03:21] <seb128> click on new
[03:21] <seb128> start date
[03:21] <seb128> pick "now"
[03:21] <seb128> what time is written?
[03:24] <jonh_wendell> seb128: the right date
[03:24] <seb128> the right time?
[03:24] <jonh_wendell> seb128: yes
[03:24] <seb128> ok
[03:24] <seb128> so evolution time definition is correct
[03:24] <jonh_wendell> seb128: i found error in appointments (agenda in pt-br)
[03:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67969 in gaim (main) "amd64 1280x1024 resolution, splash screen looks bad" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67969
[03:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67970 in xorg (main) "BSOD on ppc" [Unknown,Unknown]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67970
[03:28] <jonh_wendell> seb128: did you understand what i said about reminder and clock applet?
[03:28] <seb128> jonh_wendell: when you click on the clock applet the time listed is not correct
[03:29] <jonh_wendell> seb128: yes, it's wrong, 1 hour in advance (UTC-2, like the wrong map)
[03:29] <seb128> there is lot of issues with timezones and evolution, imho it should not allow to pick a timezone different of the GNOME one, that's only confusing
[03:30] <jonh_wendell> seb128: i agree. btw my timezones are equal
[03:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67971 in xorg (main) "xedit missing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67971
[03:31] <seb128> ok
[03:31] <seb128> so
[03:31] <seb128> tzdata is bugged, fixed with the debian version
[03:32] <seb128> /usr/share/evolution-data-server-1.8/zoneinfo/America/Sao_Paulo.ics is bugged on when summer time starts (it says 11th of octobre)
[03:32] <seb128> and there might be yet another evolution issue
[03:32] <xerxas> seb128,  bug 67951
[03:32] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 67951 in Ubuntu "Buttons on unlock dialog or in English, not the native language" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67951
[03:34] <seb128> jonh_wendell: try doing that
[03:34] <seb128> jonh_wendell: edit /usr/share/evolution-data-server-1.8/zoneinfo/America/Sao_Paulo.ics
[03:35] <seb128> change the first DTSTART to the correct date
[03:35] <seb128> and the MONTH to 11 on next line
[03:35] <seb128> evolution --force-shutdown
[03:35] <seb128> and restart it
[03:35] <seb128> select to use the daylight saving
[03:36] <seb128> it should have the correct time then
[03:36] <seb128> works fine for me
[03:40] <pepsiman> xerxas: assign 67951 to ubuntu-l10n-nl ?
[03:40] <xerxas> pepsiman,  maybe it's a good idea
[03:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67972 in Ubuntu "Please put queuegraph into edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67972
[03:40] <xerxas> pepsiman,  what is the package ?
[03:41] <xerxas> gnome-screensaver ?
[03:41] <seb128> xerxas: I don't understand the bug, it's translated correctly for me
[03:41] <pepsiman> seb128: in dutch ?
[03:42] <seb128> no
[03:42] <xerxas> seb128, yes, it's translated correctly in french
[03:42] <seb128> in franch
[03:42] <seb128> french
[03:42] <pepsiman> so only a langpack/rosetta issue
[03:43] <jonh_wendell> seb128: logoff
[03:43] <pepsiman> xerxas: package language-pack-gnome-nl person ubuntu-l10n-nl
[03:46] <xerxas> I've put gnome-screensaver as package
[03:46] <xerxas> maybe language-pack-gnome-nl is more accurate
[03:47] <bddebian> Boo
[03:48] <seb128> xerxas: works fine with nl locale on my box
[03:48] <jonh_wendell> seb128: it worked
[03:48] <seb128> jonh_wendell: ok, good
[03:50] <jonh_wendell> seb128: what does it mean?
[03:50] <jonh_wendell> seb128: where is the bug? Is there a bug?
[03:50] <xerxas> seb128, ahh , strange
[03:50] <xerxas> I left it in unconfirmed state anyway
[03:50] <xerxas> seb128,  we should reject ?
[03:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67974 in evolution (main) "Crash in evolution-alarm-notify" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67974
[03:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67975 in kde-guidance (main) "kde-guidance-powermanager incorrectly reports about battery and lid state changes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67975
[03:50] <seb128> xerxas: I've asked if he has the language pack installed
[03:51] <xerxas> ok
[03:51] <seb128> jonh_wendell: as said there is an evolution-data-server and a tzdata issue, I'm forwarding the evolution-data-server one upstream
[03:52] <jonh_wendell> seb128: did you see bug 67955? There i talk about one gnome buzilla bug
[03:52] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 67955 in evolution-data-server "Wrong timezone in 2.8 (edgy)" [Low,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67955
[03:53] <jonh_wendell> seb128: ahhh forget
[03:58] <jonh_wendell> seb128: someone has marked our bug as duplicate
[04:00] <seb128> I've noticed
[04:01] <seb128> I've commented on the bug
[04:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67976 in gnomesword (universe) "gnomesword not installable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67976
[04:14] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67977 in openoffice.org (main) "Print preview incredible bad performance" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67977
[04:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67978 in hwdata (main) "Old version of usb.ids" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67978
[04:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67979 in firefox (main) "Plugin HTML-Validator doesn't find libc++.so.5" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67979
[04:16] <jonh_wendell> seb128: there are errors not just in Sao_Paulo, but in most Brazil timezones
[04:16] <jonh_wendell> seb128: should i comment this on gnome bugzilla?
[04:17] <seb128> jonh_wendell: sure, feel free
[04:20] <pschulz01> Evening all..
[04:21] <seb128> hi pschulz01
[04:22] <pschulz01> I have a question about files that need regular updating...
[04:22] <pschulz01> there will be some bugs appearing shortly..
[04:22] <pschulz01> (bugreports)
[04:23] <pschulz01> Is there any plan on what to do about files that need regular updates, like 'usb.ids' and 'pci.ids'?
[04:23] <dholbach> that's a question you best ask on<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:24] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67980 in xserver-xgl (universe) "Missing java patch so that jdk 1.5 app works fine." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67980
[04:24] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67981 in usbutils (main) "Update to usb.ids required. " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67981
[04:24] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67982 in gstreamer0.10 (main) "problems in mp3 conversion" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67982
[04:24] <pschulz01> There you go :-)
[04:24] <dholbach> pschulz01: I meant<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:24] <dholbach> the mailing list
[04:25] <pschulz01> Oh..
[04:25] <pschulz01> I'll ask over there anyway..
[04:25] <dholbach> ok
[04:26] <dholbach> it's just they're all busy with doing a release now - you have better chances on the mailing list
[04:30] <pschulz01> dholbach: Found out..
[04:30] <dholbach> alrighty
[04:30] <pschulz01> There are update-{pci,usb}ids commands for downloading the file.
[04:30] <pschulz01> files.
[04:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67983 in lshw (main) "Update to usb.ids required. " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67983
[04:31] <pschulz01> ..and the packages are pulled from Debian anyway.
[04:32] <pschulz01> So. Maybe not a bug, but the files on my edgy system were still old.
[04:38] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67984 in k9copy (universe) "does not start" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67984
[04:38] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67985 in Ubuntu "dual monitor setup with xinerama & i810 stopped working in Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67985
[04:43] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67986 in gnome-power-manager (main) "g-p-m crashes when having wireless keyboard attached" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67986
[04:43] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67987 in openoffice.org (main) "After opening a .doc file Openoffice does not start anymore ! " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67987
[04:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67988 in kdepim (main) "Notes are not saved to IMAP resource" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67988
[05:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67989 in Ubuntu "IPW2200/0 process hogging CPU cycles" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67989
[05:34] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67990 in prboom (universe) "prboom for amd64 is broken" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67990
[05:34] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67991 in example-content (main) "[edgy]  spelling mistake in oo-payment-schedule.ods" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67991
[05:34] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67992 in snes9x (multiverse) "snes9x broken on amd64" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67992
[05:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67994 in gnome-terminal (main) ".bash_history is beeing cleaned" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67994
[05:44] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67997 in Ubuntu "Can't boot normally after install edgy." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67997
[05:59] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67999 in update-manager (main) ""can't find DistUpgradeViewGtk" when upgrading dapper->edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67999
[06:04] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67998 in alsa-utils (main) "Dist-upgrades from Dapper to Edgy break on existing ~/.asoundrc.asoundconf due to missing conf parameters (e.g., Unable to find definition 'defaults.pcm.ipc_key')" [Low,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67998
[06:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68000 in Ubuntu "Grub with software raid not working." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68000
[06:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67995 in synaptic (main) "synaptic crashes when changing themes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67995
[06:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67996 in update-manager (main) "aborts /usr/X11R6/bin not empty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67996
[06:07] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68001 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17 (restricted) "madwifi driver does not work with bridging in vmware workstation/server/player" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68001
[06:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68003 in argouml (multiverse) "Lost dependences + out of date" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68003
[06:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68002 in edubuntu-artwork (main) "[Edgy]  Firefox Startpage Title Referes to 6.06 LTS Still" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68002
[06:17] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68004 in xserver-xgl (universe) "xgl-crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68004
[06:17] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68005 in debian-installer (main) "rescue mode fails" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68005
[06:17] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68006 in firefox (main) "Crash submitting form" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68006
[06:22] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67788 in network-manager (main) "WEP Key for one SSID carries over to all SSIDs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67788
[06:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68007 in scilab (multiverse) "Old Scilab version for AMD64 and PowerPC" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68007
[06:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68008 in firefox (main) "Firefox (for Edgy) should not be in main" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68008
[06:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68009 in kde-guidance (main) "[Edgy]  Battery Status Systray Icon is misleading" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68009
[06:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68011 in gnome-vfs2 (main) "need to reload to see smb workgroup information" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68011
[06:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68012 in usplash (main) "No usplash on boot/shutdown" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68012
[06:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68013 in Ubuntu "May Be A Bug In Konqueror Directory Access" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68013
[07:19] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68015 in yelp (main) "ugly font and blinking cursor" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68015
[07:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68016 in rosegarden4 (universe) "rosegarden is not showed in the GNOME menu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68016
[07:33] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68017 in debian-installer (main) "does not install language-support-en" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68017
[07:33] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68019 in firefox (main) "Crash in Setting up My Yahoo" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68019
[07:33] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68021 in Ubuntu "high pitching noise on microphone 82801G" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68021
[07:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68022 in gnome-cups-manager (main) "reading printer database is too slow" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68022
[07:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68025 in usplash (main) ""usplash: No usable theme found for 1024x768"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68025
[07:38] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68023 in seahorse (universe) "seahorse can't creat a new pgp key with lang german" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68023
[07:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68024 in amarok (main) "Amarok crash: 1.4.3 [___stripped] [validity: 0.67] [frames: 123] [xine] " [Unknown,Unknown]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68024
[07:48] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68026 in localechooser (main) "timezone selection in ubiquity doesn't properly preseed the locale" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68026
[07:48] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68028 in Ubuntu "edgy fully updated (24.10.06) -> fstab does NOT mount smbfs Share" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68028
[07:48] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68029 in banshee (universe) "Crash: I close banshee and crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68029
[07:52] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68027 in update-manager (main) "sudo update-manager -c -d crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68027
[07:52] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68030 in oem-config (main) "configures wrong locale" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68030
[07:52] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68031 in kdegraphics (main) "[edgy rc]  - ksnapshot draws ugly gray lines" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68031
[07:52] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68032 in soundconverter (universe) "soundconverter crashed when login back in after changing user" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68032
[07:54] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 68027 in update-manager "sudo update-manager -c -d crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68027
[07:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68033 in acpi-support (main) "Insufficient dependency" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68033
[08:00] <dholbach> mvo: does it crash on /usr/share/themes/Clearlooks/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:59?
[08:01] <mvo> dholbach: yes
[08:01] <dholbach> clearlooks on xubuntu
[08:01] <dholbach> hmhmmhmhmh
[08:01] <dholbach> we got another bug about clearlooks and xubuntu today
[08:01] <mvo> dholbach: the thing is just *how* many different things can go wrong that you never ever would have though about
[08:02] <mvo> dholbach: oh? do you remember the bugnumber?
[08:02] <dholbach> hang on
[08:02] <dholbach> bug 67945
[08:02] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 67945 in gtk2-engines "Clearlooks theme doesn't honor colors of monitor panels" [Medium,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67945
[08:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68034 in gnome-system-monitor (main) "gnome system monitor keeps showing tooltips of process list, even after tab is changed or the app is minimized, the tooltip only goes away when you close the app." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68034
[08:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68036 in nautilus (main) "Cannot access any Samba shares" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68036
[08:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68035 in ubiquity (main) ""No Root Filesystem" when I reuse existing partitions" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68035
[08:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68037 in netbase (main) "DHCP client doesn't react to link state changes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68037
[08:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68039 in amule (universe) "Crash on search Clear/Seach tab" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68039
[08:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68044 in human-icon-theme (main) "Many missing icons in Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68044
[08:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68043 in Ubuntu "Applying gamma settings in Monitor and Display disables direct rendering with Edgy 6.10 RC" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68043
[08:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68045 in gedit (main) "gedit crashed - report created through bugzilla" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68045
[08:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68041 in gnome-panel (main) "gnome-panel crashes after startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68041
[08:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68046 in Ubuntu "Mpeg 1 video playback in kaffeine is interlaced." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68046
[08:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68047 in gnupg2 (main) "bad file names used by scdaemon and opensc-wrapper" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68047
[08:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68048 in control-center (main) "GNOME Settings Daemon does not start properly on AMD64 desktop install disk" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68048
[08:38] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68049 in debian-installer (main) "codeset question in expert mode does not fit on page" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68049
[08:49] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68050 in wine (universe) "MapleStory.exe fails to connect to Gameguard server" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68050
[08:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68051 in ubiquity (main) "Wrong ABNT2 Configuration." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68051
[09:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68052 in openoffice.org2 (main) "Instant Crash on adding Digital Signatures, when adding certificate" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68052
[09:09] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67993 in update-manager (main) "update-manager stops working after installing italian language." [High,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67993
[09:09] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68053 in eclipse (universe) "Eclipse will not start (Edgy)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68053
[09:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68054 in Ubuntu "The install CD will not reboot after ejecting CD" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68054
[09:12] <dufresnep> About bug #65106 , which I believe was put as kernel bug because kamion analyzed wrong file, should I poke kamion, or should I consider segfault in gparted as being a gparted bug?
[09:12] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 65106 in linux-source-2.6.17 "oops in zlib_inflate_fast" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65106
[09:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68055 in openoffice.org (main) "spell check doesn't work on drawings" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68055
[09:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68056 in yelp (main) "yelp crashed when sent SIGTERM" [Unknown,Unknown]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68056
[09:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68057 in bootcd (universe) "unable to create an xfs filesystem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68057
[09:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68058 in Ubuntu "dapper to edgy update: some kubuntu settings lost" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68058
[09:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68059 in gaim (main) "Gaim crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68059
[10:08] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68060 in libgphoto2 (main) "add Canon A710 IS " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68060
[10:22] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68061 in gnumail (universe) "GNUMail does not install required libpantomime1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68061
[10:26] <MagicFab> hello - I am looking at some older unresolved regressions like https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/56090
[10:26] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 56090 in linux-source-2.6.17 "Regression: Webcams using pwc driver produce all-grey images" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[10:27] <MagicFab> When can this kind of bug be expected to be resolved ? Is the backlog on other critical bugs so big that bugs with patches have to wait this long ?
[10:27] <MagicFab> Just rying to understand the timing / resources issues...
[10:39] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68062 in Ubuntu "Screen reactivation fails on HP nx6325" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68062
[10:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68063 in xen-source-2.6.17 (universe) "system doesnt start with xen" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68063
[10:53] <secretlondon> hi
[10:56] <secretlondon> Do we have any priorities in the run up to the release?
[10:57] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68064 in acpi (main) "Battery status not updated on HP nx6325 (edgy 6.10)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68064
[11:09] <infinito> hi
[11:10] <infinito> does anyone here why the problem with sound on motherboards using the snd_intel8x0 is present once again in edgy, when it was fixed in dapper??
[11:11] <infinito> i mean, this bug #68073, which in dapper was #41015
[11:11] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 68073 in linux-source-2.6.17 "[ALSA]  Master volume control doesn't control Headphone control" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68073
[11:13] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68067 in ubiquity (main) "Install failed with exit code 1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68067
[11:13] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68070 in Ubuntu "Edgy: install to USB drive leaves system unbootable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68070
[11:13] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68073 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "[ALSA]  Master volume control doesn't control Headphone control" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68073
[11:14] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68068 in mplayerplug-in (multiverse) "Embed support don't works" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68068
[11:14] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68069 in Ubuntu "Dell B120 Laptop doesn't suspend properly " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68069
[11:14] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68071 in gnome-system-tools (main) "After deactivating my wireless interface with network-admin, I cannot reactivate it again." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68071
[11:14] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68072 in synaptic (main) "There should be screenshots in package descriptions" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68072
[11:15] <secretlondon> we can't fix your bug here - you need to reopen the bug if you think there is a regression
[11:16] <infinito> i did it, i just was trying to know why this regression has happened...
[11:18] <huats> I'd like to triage a bit... But I don't remember a few stuff : can I decide to set a bug to wishlist ? and if not what I have to do to initiate that ?
[11:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68074 in bzflag (universe) "Seg fault when connecting" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68074
[11:20] <secretlondon> huats: you can't set the priority of bugs unless you are in the qa team
[11:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68075 in pciutils (main) "Unknown ATI Video Card" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68075
[11:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68076 in bzflag (universe) "Missing dependency" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68076
[11:20] <secretlondon> huats: it's to stop people marking their own bugs as critical
[11:21] <huats> ok
[11:21] <secretlondon> you can set needs info/confirmed etc -not just priority
[11:22] <huats> so there is no way to say that a bug is not a bug, it is just a whishlist
[11:23] <secretlondon> we don't have the permissions to do that
[11:23] <huats> ok
[11:24] <huats> do I have to assign the bug to someone in particular who ca do that ?
[11:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68065 in gcompris (main) "gcompris wont start." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68065
[11:27] <secretlondon> huats: i think the qa team go through them - what is useful is setting to a package if there isn't one listed
[11:28] <huats> ok
[11:28] <secretlondon> bugs without a package tend to get lost
[11:33] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68077 in Ubuntu ""rescue" fails to load kernel on PPC edubuntu Desktop CD" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68077
[11:33] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68078 in gconf2 (main) "preload breaks hibernation in Edgy + compiz" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68078
[11:34] <huats> so to sum up : there is nothing I can with that : http://freewebsitehosting.net/websites/dir/wedding-shoes.html
[11:34] <huats> oups
[11:34] <huats> sorry wrong paste
[11:34] <huats> it was a spam on my blog :(
[11:35] <huats> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/68072
[11:35] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 68072 in synaptic "There should be screenshots in package descriptions" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]
[11:37] <secretlondon> huats: just leave it
[11:37] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68079 in preload (universe) "preload breaks hibernation in Edgy + compiz" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68079
[11:37] <huats> ok
[11:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68080 in kdeedu (main) "kanagram vocabularies aren't translated" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68080
[11:52] <matsubara> is it a known bug that apt-get install epiphany ends up installing an epiphany-game instead of the web browser?
[11:52] <mvo> yes
[11:52] <secretlondon> i don't know - i'll have a look
[11:58] <gnomefreak> thats a new one
[12:00] <matsubara> mvo: that yes was for my question?
[12:00] <mvo> yes - its well known in by the developers, its just that the eiphany package was there first and that its kind of hard to rename it now
[12:01] <mvo> I don't know if there is actaully a bug in malone about this though
[12:02] <matsubara> mvo: found this one which was rejected https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/epiphany/+bug/40922
[12:02] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 40922 in epiphany "Epiphany won't install fully (Dapper Beta-1)" [Medium,Rejected]


[17:30] <pavlushka> Hello Kilos & others
[17:51] <Kilos> hi pavlushka
[17:52] <pavlushka> Kilos: hello
[17:53] <pavlushka> Kilos: how is the day?
[18:40] <Kilos> ok ty and yours
[18:40] <pavlushka> busy and good
[20:36] <Kilos> night guys


[11:27] <DJones> Hmmh, I wondered why 'penos' sounded familiar, a couple of bantracker entries for trolling
[11:28] <k1l_> yep
[11:28] <k1l_> he starts to visit us since some weeks
[11:28] <k1l_> again
[11:34] <k1l_> i told him to stop trolling and sticking to the guidelines in query. but no respons
[11:38] <DJones> He seems to have stopped anyway, maybe your pm and me telling him to stop in channel have made him aware he's being watched
[11:39] <k1l_> i think he is just taking a breath to start again. but anyway, we will see
[11:48] <elky> yeah he's an ongoing issue
[11:50] <Tm_T> rings my bells, and that comes from relatively long time ago
[16:51] <bazhang> yeah. why not just say: 1 gb ram, intel video card or whatever
[17:35] <bazhang> troll detected
 Hey why is Ubuntu so bad?
[17:40] <bazhang> server side of ubuntu is closed source?
[17:40] <bazhang> or is that trolling a troll
[17:41] <jbroome> what constitutes "server side"?
[17:41] <bazhang> DJones, ^
[17:41] <DJones> I misread the question, I thought they were asking about Ubuntu One
[17:41] <bazhang> hahahaha
[17:41] <DJones> Ah well, troll the troll :) even if it is accidently
[17:42] <DJones> Wonder how long they'll spend trying to track that info down
[17:48] <bazhang> anyone who calls the bot bad deserves  a b
[17:49] <bazhang> crunchbang is like a less flexible lubuntu
[17:49] <Pici> That bot is so annoying. I wish it would stop giving me the information I need.
[17:49] <bazhang> hah
[17:49] <bazhang> if you make the smallest change to crunchbang, it's screwed
[17:50] <bazhang> lxde/openbox yeah, but very rigidly set
[17:51] <DJones> Ilhami> do they have a channel? ..... Its questions like that when I think it should be allowable to say "Have you googled it?"
[17:51] <bazhang> hah
[17:52] <bazhang> we have the !alis command for that one
[17:52] <bazhang> changeover seems to be a puppy dev or something
[17:58] <bazhang> if he's told about the -dev channel, he will just spam that
[17:58] <bazhang> how many lines of spam are in #ubuntu from me before I get removed?
 get a new computer
[18:07] <bazhang> brilliant support advice
[19:22] <bazhang> .
[19:22] <bazhang> .
[19:22] <bazhang> .
[19:24] <DJones> Has your troll detector gone off yet
[19:24] <bazhang> hehe
[19:25] <bazhang> it's on overdrive, so unreliable at this point
[19:26] <bazhang> sufficiently clueless users are indistinguishable from trolls
[19:26] <Pici> aye
[19:27] <bazhang> paraphrasing Arthur C. Clarke
[19:29] <genii> I think he he's on his phone and hits Enter when the text starts disapppearing on the left as he types
[19:32] <bazhang> yet he never once acknowledged any of the many many warnings given
[19:32] <bazhang> more than half a dozen
[19:41] <bazhang> autoremove accepts arguments?
[19:42] <genii> Dunno, never tried to feed it any before
[19:59] <genii> My piece-o-crap router is overheating and cutting out.
[19:59] <bazhang> mine is acting up as well
[19:59] <bazhang> it's odd that IRC keeps working when dns fails
[19:59] <bazhang> ie using Firefox or the like
[20:05] <tsimpson> you don't need DNS once you're already connected to the network, it's a constant connection
[20:06] <tsimpson> or even once it's in your DNS cache
 woooohoooooo!  is this the actual Ubuntu IRC?  and what are floodbots?  those dont sound good
[20:09] <bazhang> thanks tsimpson
[20:11] <DJones> Why do people join and ask what are floodbots without seeing them in action, I can only assume that its somebody who already knows and is trolling, its not as if they stand out in amongst the other 1600 user
[20:11] <bazhang> yeah that was odd
[20:12] <Pici> DJones: Because they're opped and they show up at the top of the userlist on some clients.
[20:12] <tsimpson> they are +o many clients do show that
[20:12] <DJones> There's been a couple of people done that in the last couple days or so, all asking what are the floodbots when they join
[20:44] <genii> For someone new that all they generally know is that the bots they've heard about aren't all that great, like adbots or callbots etc, one named floodbot sounds like it might start suddenly raining bots
 "dont think I would follow any guide from 2007" -- the bot gave that guide, the bot is outdated -- i say we break it
 break the bot, its the crap i couldnt tell from quality i was referring to earlier
[21:07] <bazhang> thats way past +b imo
[22:24] <genii> bazhang: I do think the tinyurl link from !install should be gotten rid of, that's the 2007 instantfundas link. Since we have "installing without a CD" as part of the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation  page
[22:24] <genii> !install
[22:25] <genii> ubottu: install is <reply> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall -  See also !automate
[22:25] <genii> ubottu: no install is <reply> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - See also !automate
[22:26] <Unit193> If you're looking at factoids, there were some recommendations in -irc yesterday.
[22:27] <genii> Unit193: I was going through them ages ago and making a list, but then I got busy at work for a long time, it went dormant, etc
[22:34] <bazhang> yep looks good
[22:35] <genii> Unit193: In fact, I just found the page again: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/FactoidCleanup
[22:37] <Unit193> genii: Nice!  Just note that number of calls doesn't include ubot# just ubottu.  (Going through it now.)
[22:45] <genii> Unit193: If you have a log of the recommendations, could you email them to me and I can maybe append the wiki list


[12:27] <CIA-5> ubiquity: xnox * r5681 trunk/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/plugins/ubi-partman.py):
[12:27] <CIA-5> ubiquity: Do not preseed grub-install, if we are not proceeding to install. This
[12:27] <CIA-5> ubiquity: should fix ValueError, I/O operation on closed file (LP: #1027648)
[12:27] <CIA-5> ubiquity: (LP: #792652)
[13:36] <CIA-5> ubiquity: xnox * r5682 trunk/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog):
[13:36] <CIA-5> ubiquity: Automatic update of included source packages: yaboot-installer
[13:36] <CIA-5> ubiquity: 1.1.22ubuntu2.
[13:36] <xnox> any other (LP: #NNNYYYZ) needed?
[13:40] <cjwatson> not afaik
[13:59] <CIA-5> ubiquity: xnox * r5683 trunk/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.12.3
[15:40] <cjwatson> xnox: hmm, why did you set bug 792652 back to Triaged?
[15:40] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 792652 in ubiquity "ubiquity crashed with ValueError in command(): I/O operation on closed file" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/792652
[15:40] <cjwatson> ah, precise, never mind me
[15:41] <xnox> ok.
[15:42] <xnox> because there is no quantal task, the bottom one is actually precise =) hence the disorientation. =)))) bug is 6 digits long so not surprising =)
[15:47] <cjwatson> actually I just misread the mail
[16:06] <bdmurray> cjwatson: have you seen bug 1054323?
[16:06] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1054323 in grub-installer "Installer fails at 'grub install dummy' on PowerEdge Hardware in EFI mode" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1054323
[16:10] <cjwatson> have now
[17:23] <CIA-5> live-installer: cjwatson * r34 ubuntu/debian/ (changelog live-installer.postinst): debian/live-installer.postinst: Set SUBARCH (LP: #1054143).
[17:25] <CIA-5> live-installer: cjwatson * r35 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 36ubuntu7
[20:36] <CIA-5> grub-installer: cjwatson * r1227 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog grub-installer): Fix incorrect test for whether to bind-mount /sys (LP: #1054323).
[20:38] <CIA-5> grub-installer: cjwatson * r1228 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.78ubuntu3
[20:52] <bdmurray> stgraber: is bug 869825 specific to ubiquity or something else?
[20:52] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 869825 in ubiquity "French (Switzerland) is no longer a layout choice in the installer" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/869825
[20:54] <stgraber> bdmurray: it's likely not ubiquity's fault but console-setup's (or wherever the keyboard list is nowadays)
[20:54] <stgraber> I'd expect a similar behaviour in d-i, though I guess people using the text installer usually select their keyboard layout from gfxboot and don't get to see the list of layouts in d-i
[22:16] <xnox> bdmurray_: I believe I totally saw that one on debian mailing lists / bugs


[03:00] <ryanakca> boredandblogging: ping, do you plan to release UWN#74 before 17h00UTC tomorrow?
[03:01] <boredandblogging> ryanakca: no
[03:02] <ryanakca> boredandblogging: okies, phew :)
[03:02] <boredandblogging> ryanakca: why, whats up?
[03:03]  * ryanakca "broke" his server... and if the Kubuntu Website Mockup Contest blurb is going to be in there, or at least link to my "announcement", I need to bring my server back
[03:04] <ryanakca> if it's after noon tomorrow (my time), at least I can go to bed now, get up early tomorrow and work away at it
[03:06] <boredandblogging> :-)
[03:09]  * ryanakca swears loudly at having deleted his blog's database backup
[03:29] <ryanakca> boredandblogging: hurray, I fixed it :)
[04:07] <boredandblogging> ryanakca: cool
[12:26] <aurax> elkbuntu you idiot :)


[01:25]  * BUGabundo $ do radom_pool (bath;sleep;breakfast;work);
[01:33] <kklimonda> great, my nautilus crashes when I try to access any remote share..
[01:35] <kklimonda> oh, this one is related to ubuntuone..
[01:54] <kklimonda> any idea how to delete all packages with dbgsym in their name?
[01:54] <kklimonda> aptitude complains that there is more than 40 packages with this string..
[01:55] <kklimonda> i know I could do some voodoo with awk, grep or sed
[01:55] <kklimonda> but maybe there is a simple way of removing them all?
[02:28] <micahg> kklimonda:  sudo apt-get remove .*dbgsym
[02:29] <kklimonda> thanks
[07:25] <anakron> hi all
[07:51] <dholbach> good morning
[08:10] <persia> Anyone else having issues running "ubuntu-bug" in karmic?
[08:20] <anakron> only typo errors :)
[08:20] <anakron> good night in chile
[08:20] <anakron> persia..a question
[08:21] <anakron> how i can recover my signing key if i delete it ?
[08:21] <anakron> can i import it?
[08:21] <anakron> or it is lost...
[08:22] <anakron> because i can't sign any package, signing key is not availiable
[08:26] <persia> anakron, If you delete your key, it's gone.
[08:26] <persia> You can restore from your backup.
[08:26] <anakron> where?
[08:26] <persia> If you don't have a backup, you can do something with your revocation certificate.
[08:26] <anakron> how
[08:27] <persia> If you don't have a revocation certificate, you won't make that mistake again :)
[08:27] <persia> where?    I'm not sure.  I've never had to revoke a key.
[08:27] <anakron> ill must create another one...
[08:28] <anakron> i have some packages...all of them with differents keys :S:S
[08:28] <anakron> i cannot be trusted XD
[08:28] <persia> Indeed.
[08:37] <micahg> does someone know how to fix an apport-collect misconfiguration?
[08:37] <micahg> bug 392418
[08:37] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 392418 in firefox-3.0 "Firefox 3 does not render t-mobile page correctly" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/392418
[13:38] <YoBoY> hi, where can i look/report for a bug concerning the packages lists who are in the repositories? my concern is the i18n files are not in utf-8
[14:15] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Here is better than on #ubuntu
[14:15] <Le-Chuck_ITA> it seems to me that I find the cause of an old bug
[14:16] <Le-Chuck_ITA> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/gnome-panel/+bug/69012
[14:16] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 69012 in gnome-panel "Dragging a menu from the main menu does not allow to press ESC to cancel" [Unknown,Confirmed]
[14:16] <Le-Chuck_ITA> it seems to me that the last focused window has the focus while dragging, so if you press ESC, it's captured by that window.
[14:24] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Hi dholbach, I recall you are interested in usability problems of the default destkop or am I making confusion with somebody else?
[14:25] <dholbach> Le-Chuck_ITA: likely a confusion :)
[14:25] <Le-Chuck_ITA> ok thanks anyways :)
[14:26] <dholbach> try #ayatana
[14:39] <Le-Chuck_ITA> thanks dholbach
[14:39] <Le-Chuck_ITA> but I just wanted to see if I can do more for a bug in the gnome panel, is ayatana appropriate?
[14:39] <dholbach> or #ubuntu-desktop
[14:43] <Le-Chuck_ITA> ok thanks
[15:20] <Kangarooo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/file-roller/+bug/370535 im having same problem. can't unzip tar.gz even in console and archive manager says this            This is what it says if I double-click on one of these tar.gz files: tar: This does not look like a tar archive tar: Skipping to next header tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors        what should I do?
[15:20] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 370535 in file-roller "won't open tar.gz in 9.04" [Low,New]
[15:26] <bddebian> Boo
[16:41] <andresmujica> >
[16:41] <andresmujica> Hi!
[16:42] <andresmujica> in about 20 mins we'll have our monthly meeting at #ubuntu-meeting
[16:46] <hggdh> andresmujica, thanks for the reminder
[16:48] <andresmujica> hggdh: np
[16:59] <andresmujica> ok, it's time again..
[17:59] <micahg> ping bdmurray
[20:08] <yofel> anybody here an idea what happend with apport in karmic? It's disabled by default in my fresh alpha2 installation here
[20:09] <charlie-tca__> yofel: appears to be disabled by default now.
[20:09] <yofel> why that?
[20:10] <charlie-tca__> Don't know. It doesn't seem real smart, if we want the bug reports filed with apport now as much as possible
[20:10] <charlie-tca__> I just discovered it yesterday, though
[20:10] <yofel> my point exactly
[20:25] <Ampelbein> charlie-tca__: it's only the automatic crash reporter that's diabled, not the "help -> report a problem" function or "ubuntu-bug".
[20:25] <Ampelbein> charlie-tca__: so we still get apport bug reports
[20:27] <Ampelbein> but as the number of automatically filed reports always outnumbered the reports that can be dealt with it's a good thing to have them disabled by default and only let apport catch the crash on request.
[20:27] <kklimonda> especially that at the beginning of the dev cycle there are going to be a lot of crashes, for example right now there is a wide problem with gtk+
[20:28] <kklimonda> if we had apport enabled by default we would be swarmed by duplicates
[21:41] <james_w> is anyone else seeing /var/log/dist-upgrade attached to bugs not working?
[21:41] <james_w> e.g. bug 396744
[21:41] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 396744 in ca-certificates "errors in actualization to ubuntu 9.04 with pakage "ca-certificates"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/396744
[21:41] <james_w> is it just because the file is empty on the user's system or something?
[21:53] <hggdh> micahg, may I PVT you?
[21:58] <micahg> hggdh: yes
[21:58] <micahg> I think :)
[21:59] <hggdh> heh
[22:01] <BUGabundo> ola
[22:04] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: you got this work? you are getting later and later online :)
[22:05] <BUGabundo> :(
[22:05] <BUGabundo> yea tuff job
[22:05] <BUGabundo> plus went to the gym (latter then usual)
[22:11] <hggdh> ola, BUGabundo
[22:11] <BUGabundo> hey hggdh
[22:11] <hggdh> did mapi work?
[22:20] <BUGabundo> nope :(
[22:21] <BUGabundo> but then again they have OWA disabled for sub-contraced users
[22:21] <BUGabundo> I so don't like my new job _job_
[22:59] <micahg> pign bdmurray
[23:00] <hggdh> heh
[23:04] <bdmurray> pogn micahg
[23:40] <micahg> hi bdmurray, it seems that I can't save scripts with the gm extension
[23:40] <bdmurray> micahg: do you mean save custom replies?
[23:42] <micahg> yes
[23:43] <bdmurray> and with which version of firefox is that
[23:47] <micahg> 3.5
[23:48] <bdmurray> Do you get the replies saved dailog box?
[23:50] <micahg> yes
[23:50] <micahg> but it doesn't save
[23:51] <micahg> where is the .xml file?
[23:51] <micahg> that's my guess
[23:51] <bdmurray> It doesn't write to the xml file
[23:52] <bdmurray> rather it should update your prefs.js file
[23:52] <micahg> hmm
[23:52] <bdmurray> you could check about:config
[23:53] <micahg> I see
[23:53] <micahg> but it doesn't show the new one I wrote
[23:53] <bdmurray> and use improvements as a filter
[23:53] <bdmurray> improvements.pref.name would be better
[23:54] <micahg> yes, there are 27 in tehre
[23:54] <bdmurray> than look for the one you saved
[23:54] <micahg> one I saved is not
[23:54] <bdmurray> I have 27, one of which is the one I saved
[23:55] <micahg> comment27 or 27 total?
[23:55] <micahg> either way it's more than me
[23:55] <bdmurray> 28 total name27
[23:55] <micahg> which browser?
[23:55] <bdmurray> 3.0
[23:57] <bdmurray> the same function that adds a custom response saves the initial ones
[23:59] <micahg> Do I click save stock replies or save changes?
[23:59] <bdmurray> save stock replies