[12:00] <Raskall> agh.. I get so slow downloads from apt.. only 400 kB/sec. Sometimes only 410.
[12:00] <LuckyStrike> kbrooks, im confused :(
[12:00] <Mr> I have ralink 2500 wireless card.  It is listed in device manager but when I open the net tools it isnt listed.
[12:00] <nalioth> howdy
[12:00] <WeirdAl> <3 tiglionabbit
[12:00] <WeirdAl> thanks
[12:01] <zer> Mr: It works :-) But, you have to do some things on your own
[12:01] <Mr> such as....?
[12:01] <Raskall> Mr: the fact that it shows up in device manager doesn't mean you have a driver loaded for it..
[12:01] <Mr> ok
[12:01] <Mr> im listening
[12:01] <liz4rd> my ISP gave me 2 ips. how would i be able to use the other ip instead of dhcping to this one (there both static) any ideas?
[12:01] <zer> Mr: Ok...you don't speak german, do you? :o)
[12:01] <Mr> no
[12:02] <Mr> I have the drivers for linux and windows on my windows partition
[12:02] <zer> Mr: Ok, wait...i try to
[12:02] <husher> liz4rd, set your ip address to the other ip
[12:02] <kbrooks> LuckyStrike, what are you trying to accomplosh?
[12:02] <Mr> I have translation programs
[12:03] <Mr> I you post in german I should be able to translate
[12:03] <liz4rd> husher, WOW thats was good help man WHY DO YOU THIN K I CAME IN HERE!!! i dont know how
[12:03] <zer> Mr: Ok, watch this: It works perfectly! http://www.ubuntu-de.org/wiki/treiber:netzwerk:ralink_rt2500_installieren
[12:04] <LuckyStrike> just to install that program in ubuntu (only just installed ubuntu)
[12:04] <zer> Mr: If you have questions, ask
[12:04] <Mr> Thank you.
[12:04] <tiglionabbit> cafuego: bring back the bot
[12:04] <husher> liz4ard, ok, here's an idea:  try re-phrasing your question before you piss people off who are trying to help you.
[12:04] <LuckyStrike> its just it said it was kde and i dont have kubuntu so thought it might not be possible
[12:04] <Mr> Any ideas on how to mount my windows partition without geting access denied message?
[12:04] <husher> liz4rd, if someone tells you your question is unclear, why not try to clarify?
[12:05] <liz4rd> what do you not understand?
[12:05] <liz4rd> my ISP gave me 2 ips. how would i be able to use the other ip instead of dhcping to this one (there both static) <-- makes sence
[12:05] <zer> Mr: edit your fstab correctly :-)
[12:05] <nalioths_dog> Mr: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partitions mount automatically
[12:05] <lcdd> i though it was quite clear. he wants to set up his network interface
[12:05] <kbrooks> LuckyStrike, it's possible.
[12:05] <lcdd> +t
[12:05] <LuckyStrike> ok
[12:05] <husher> liz4rd, stop it.  i understand now.  there's no reason to be a dick about it.
[12:05] <tiglionabbit> LuckyStrike: you should be able to install most anything.  APT will handle the dependencies.    Please stop that, dylan_
[12:08] <dylan_> sorry
[12:08] <husher> liz4rd, what you think is a perfectly worded quesition may not be to someone else
[12:08] <dylan_> SORRY EVERYONE
[12:08] <Big_O> yeah thats what ive had problems with
[12:08] <tiglionabbit> nalioth: hey, what about advising they use ext2 and add the ext2fsd driver to windows explorer?
[12:08] <nalioth> Big_O: what windows OS do you use?
[12:08] <liz4rd> husher, instead of telling me my question doesnt make sence to you tell me what parts :)
[12:08] <Big_O> still wasny sure about fat 32
[12:08] <tiglionabbit> nalioth: does that work very well?
[12:08] <Big_O> so thanks
[12:08] <kbrooks> tiglionabbit, dylan is whining
[12:08] <AndyRR> dylan_, please stop shouting
[12:08] <Big_O> xp
[12:08] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: am getting there, thanks
[12:08] <dylan_> sorry, im bipolar
[12:08] <husher> liz4rd, so, if you like, tell me if you're running gnome or not in response to my previous question
[12:08] <kbrooks> bipolar?
[12:09] <liz4rd> no
[12:09] <liz4rd> xfce4
[12:09] <husher> ah
[12:09] <eno__> has anyone ever had it where xmms wont play sounds but other things will?
[12:09] <kutucape> hi all
[12:09] <kbrooks> nalioth, someone is fingering me
[12:09] <nalioth> Big_O: you can use ext2 for your shared storage as they make an ext2 driver for xp/2k, which will allow you to access that partition
[12:09] <skora> eno__, yes
[12:09] <kutucape> i'm upgrading hoary to breezy right now
[12:09] <tiglionabbit> eno__: yes, ESD has mixing problems, you can usually only play one media player at once
[12:09] <eno__> did you figure out a way to fix it?
[12:09] <tiglionabbit> !sound
[12:09] <liz4rd> tiglionabbit, do i have to restart for it to take effect?
[12:09] <kutucape> i dont know if will break my system or not
[12:09] <eno__> !sound
[12:09] <tiglionabbit> eno__: yes, there's a forum post...   but damnit ubotu is gon
[12:10] <nalioth> Big_O: the difference is: in fat32 you can only have 4gb single files, in ext2 you can have one file (bigger than 4gb)
[12:10] <Markrian> kutucape: good luck!
[12:10] <Slipaway172> im waiting for breezy to become avaiable so i can upgrade. its buggy for me
[12:10] <Big_O> yeah but ill be iseing to store games and movies
[12:10] <skora> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[12:10] <tiglionabbit> cafuego: !!!  FIX THE BOT
[12:10] <nalioth> kbrooks: fingering is common internet behavior, i hope you have an interesting .plan file
[12:10] <eno__> oh well
[12:10] <skora> that's what helped me.
[12:10] <eno__> if I need mp3s I can boot in knoppix
[12:10] <husher> liz4rd, is your interface eth0?
[12:10] <kbrooks> nalioth, CTCP finger
[12:10] <kutucape> Markrian, maybe it just xorg problem, i hope so
[12:10] <Slipaway172> nalioth,  what is a finger?
[12:10] <liz4rd> i dont know how can i tell husher
[12:10] <husher> type ifconfig
[12:11] <kutucape> i like playing with bleeding edge ;)
[12:11] <tiglionabbit> eno__: no, you can get it all to work fine
[12:11] <Big_O> sand im not really gotng to have files over 4 gigs
[12:11] <husher> liz4rd, look for the interface with an ip address
[12:11] <Big_O> and^^^
[12:11] <liz4rd> bash: ipconfig: command not found
[12:11] <eno__> should I go into /dev and delete my sound card?
[12:11] <liz4rd> WTF
[12:11] <kutucape> well, I was a linuxfromscratch...
[12:11] <kutucape> lfs user
[12:11] <Big_O> eno__,  err no
[12:11] <eno__> fine :|
[12:11] <kbrooks> wtf. Someone is fingering me thru CTCP
[12:11] <nalioth> finger is a common way of 'checking' up on someone on a network. when fingered on a network, the users status (logged in, last login, etc and /or their .plan file is displayed)
[12:12] <kutucape> !finger
[12:12] <nalioth> kbrooks: /ignore ?
[12:12] <Big_O> have you checked the xmms properties
[12:12] <kutucape> whereis ubotu?
[12:12] <eno__> kind of
[12:12] <Big_O> what driver is it trying to use
[12:12] <Big_O> ?
[12:12] <nalioth> Big_O: if you rip DVDs to iso images, you will have files over 4gb in size
[12:12] <glick> how do you do a minimal ubuntu install for server config?
[12:12] <liz4rd> husher, oops i thought you said ipconfig
[12:12] <kbrooks> Slipaway172, who are you?
[12:12] <eno__> I tried all of the outputs, they all just rip through my playlist wihtout playing any songs
[12:12] <Slipaway172> why
[12:13] <Markrian> glick: when the install CD boots up, type 'server' then enter
[12:13] <Big_O> nalioth,  i dont have a dvd writer
[12:13] <kbrooks> Slipaway172, i demand you stop the finger/version on me
[12:13] <Slipaway172> i just like looking around , but i dont touch or i buy
[12:13] <Slipaway172> ok
[12:13] <glick> thnx
[12:13] <Big_O> or drive :(
[12:13] <Slipaway172> whatever
[12:13] <glick> Markrian, what does it install when server is selected?
[12:13] <nalioth> Big_O: that doesnt keep you from ripping for backup on a large HD array
[12:13] <cletus> can I compile c++ source code from a file without having a makefile?
[12:13] <glick> cletus, yes
[12:13] <tiglionabbit> cletus: yup
[12:13] <kbrooks> cletus, g++
[12:13] <Markrian> glick: the base system needed for linux to work
[12:14] <supernix> anyone good with OpenOffice 2.0 that could help me ?
[12:14] <husher> liz4rd, did you not install gnome and any of the other tools, or are you just running xfce4 aside from it?
[12:14] <Markrian> No X, no servers
[12:14] <tiglionabbit> g++ file.cpp -o executablename
[12:14] <cletus> what would the syntax be?  I
[12:14] <liz4rd> tiglionabbit, (myip): error fetching interface information: Device not found
[12:14] <liz4rd> husher, no gnome is installed
[12:14] <Big_O> eno__,  what out put plugin are you useing now?
[12:14] <cletus> awesome, thankyou :)
[12:14] <_Arturoo_> how i can install a driver for one device?
[12:14] <eno__> ALSA
[12:14] <Big_O> hit configure
[12:15] <glick> xfce4 is the shiznit
[12:15] <liz4rd> fuck yerah
[12:15] <liz4rd> yeah*
[12:15] <husher> liz4rd, try typing 'sudo network-admin'
[12:15] <eno__> and now?
[12:15] <kbrooks> i use xfce4 on debian
[12:15] <Big_O> eno__,  what audio device is it looking for?
[12:15] <glick> liz4rd, how did you not install gnome
[12:15] <eno__> hw:1;1
[12:15] <TPC> ok, I installed breezy on my test machine, (I know that you're not supposed to use it yet, but hey, its a test machine, so it doesn't matter if it breaks some, I just want to try some of the new features), and when I start X it complains that it can't find the font 'fixed'. Is there anything I can do, or should I just go test some other unstable thing ;)
[12:15] <eno__> I tired all 3 though
[12:15] <Mr> I wanted to use CollegeLinux, but the bootloader tries to install to hda which happens to be my CD drive and I don't know how to change where the bootloader goes so I tried Ubuntu, it installed fine but I am a |\|00b and I don't know howt to get my wireless or LAN card to work and I cant mount my windows partition.
[12:15] <liz4rd> glick, sudo apt-get install gnome?
[12:15] <glick> i use xfce on debian too
[12:15] <Big_O> what other options are there?
[12:15] <husher> liz4rd, sorry, i misread that as gnome being installed
[12:15] <glick> liz4rd, how do you 'not' install gnome
[12:16] <liz4rd> glick, i'm on kubuntu
[12:16] <liz4rd> :P
[12:16] <glick> eiy!
[12:16] <goldfish> if you start with the minimal install, you also dont have to install gnome.
[12:16] <goldfish> fluxbox r00lz.
[12:16] <Big_O> yeah
[12:16] <liz4rd> husher, so configureing this wonk work then? should i exit network-admin?
[12:16] <ice_1963> i'm useing icewm lol
[12:16] <Big_O> =D
[12:16] <tiglionabbit> #kubuntu
[12:17] <husher> liz4rd, no
[12:17] <glick> im still debating weather or not to do the install
[12:17] <eno__> oh hell, I give up
[12:17] <husher> liz4rd, if it came up, it'll work
[12:17] <liz4rd> k
[12:17] <glick> of ubuntu
[12:17] <liz4rd> well now what
[12:17] <husher> liz4rd, as in no, don't exit
[12:17] <liz4rd> type my stuff in?
[12:17] <Big_O> oh well i was about to tell him to try hw 0,0
[12:17] <nalioth> Mr: my dog will send you some directions. follow them to mount your windows drive easily and safely
[12:17] <nalioths_dog> Mr: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partitions mount automatically
[12:17] <LuckyStrike> pulled my network cable out by mistake :(
[12:17] <husher> select your interface, go to properties, type in your address
[12:18] <husher> liz4rd, did your isp give you a gateway address?
[12:18] <glick> i gotta go to shitty bio class
[12:18] <glick> later all
[12:19] <Slipaway172> why do i have ppl on my ban list? i have never banned anybody?
[12:19] <Big_O> pity i cant get software mixing working on this install <_<
[12:19] <goldfish> dont do that
[12:19] <goldfish> open a terminal and use ifconfig !
[12:20] <goldfish> Slipaway172: maybe the client auto bans ppl who flood.
[12:20] <dwstil> hello all
[12:20] <goldfish> hi
[12:20] <Slipaway172> ? i havent flooded
[12:21] <kutucape> di dwstil
[12:21] <dylan_> where does k3b show up in the GNOME Applications menu after install?
[12:21] <Slipaway172> it dosent
[12:21] <Slipaway172> go to terminal
[12:22] <Slipaway172> type k3b
[12:22] <nalioth> dylan_: it doesnt, use "run application"
[12:22] <husher> why is that, anyway?
[12:22] <dwstil> under the networking help at the wiki i don't see how to set up an internet conncection via dial-up, can anyone point me in the right direction?
[12:23] <UrbanFox|sleep> how do I modify my keyring?
[12:24] <mwh_> anyone know where I can find the HP-laptops, which will be certified for breezy?
[12:24] <r0d> what does ubuntu have for wireless AP scanning in the repository?
[12:24] <husher> dwstill, there's something about a modem connection in the network-admin program, provided it sees your modem
[12:24] <supernix> can linux use windows fonts ?
[12:25] <Big_O> yeah
[12:25] <UrbanFox|sleep> supernix> yes
[12:25] <UrbanFox|sleep> very well
[12:25] <UrbanFox|sleep> I'm using MS Tahoma as my application font right now :P
[12:25] <supernix> kewlio
[12:25] <dwstil> thanks
[12:25] <supernix> I installed OOo and after that I for some reason was missing some fonts
[12:25] <nalioth> supernix: yes, any truetype font
[12:25] <tiglionabbit> supernix: get "msttcorefonts"
[12:25] <nalioth> supernix: they go in ~/.fonts
[12:25] <supernix> well they show up fine in 1.1.3 but not 2.0 for some reason
[12:25] <Big_O> actually has anyone else had trouble getting software mixxing working?
[12:26] <Wermut> urbanfox, btw, is there an easy way to import the fonts from the windows partition
[12:26] <Big_O> i had it working before
[12:26] <dylan_> ok thanks nalioth
[12:26] <husher> Big_O, as in sound mixing, playing 2 things at once?
[12:26] <supernix> ty nalioth and tiglionabbit
[12:27] <supernix> is there anyway I can make them available without actually moving them to the same directory as the other fonts used by OOo ?
[12:27] <mebaran151> I dlled a src pkg for lighttpd
[12:27] <Slipaway172> so is nethack a text game?
[12:27] <Big_O> yeah husher
[12:28] <mebaran151> but I want to use it
[12:28] <mebaran151> I got a orig.tar.gz
[12:28] <mebaran151> a diff.gz
[12:28] <husher> Big_O, have you tried setting your sinks to Esd?
[12:28] <mebaran151> and a .dsc
[12:28] <UrbanFox|sleep> how do I wipe my GNOME keyring?
[12:28] <Big_O> i was trying alsa
[12:28] <mebaran151> how what dpkg command slaps them all together
[12:29] <husher> Big_O, i've heard of people who knew people who got Alsa to work, but i've never seen it
[12:29] <Big_O> husher,  i had it working iun my last install
[12:30] <husher> Big_O, then you're the first i've met:) everyone else just told me to use esd, and that has worked splendidly
[12:30] <eventual1uddha> i've had 5 install discs fail on me (1 warty, 4 hoary - 4 from a PC, 1 from a Mac). they all stall between 6%-9%. any suggestions?
[12:30] <pepsi> ]
[12:30] <lcdd> eventual1uddha: your optical drive is broken
[12:30] <zer> eventual1uddha: your drive is broken
[12:30] <husher> eventual1uddha, try a differnet drivf?
[12:30] <Big_O> ill give it a shot
[12:30] <eventual1uddha> *sigh* k, i'll do that while freebsd downloads
[12:31] <LuckyStrike> hmm open office doesn't have verdana fon't is that normal?
[12:31] <nalioth> LuckyStrike: install msttcorefonts
[12:31] <aeho> LuckyStrike, maybe you should install ms fonts?
[12:31] <LuckyStrike> k
[12:32] <swarm> where I should look for /usr/bin/esd startup? I see with pstree that is child of init but I don't find which script to modify. I would like to modify its parameters adding -as 5 but itsn't read from /etc/esound/esd.conf.
[12:33] <LuckyStrike> would that be a sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts ?
[12:33] <ccc> LuckyStrike: yes
[12:34] <LuckyStrike> ok thanks
[12:34] <nalioth> LuckyStrike: something like that
[12:36] <pax> may the blog force be with you
[12:36] <Troy_McClure> that will be an exciting read
[12:37] <Troy_McClure> "Today i use the grep command a lot"
[12:37] <husher> ubuntu's installer needs a progress meter
[12:38] <Troy_McClure> hehe its a joke, best of luck to you, i would recomend making it a "Noobs guide to switching to linux"
[12:38] <LuckyStrike> to be honest a blog from a newbie who is setting up his system and to read some things that he stumbled on would be very useful to me right now
[12:38] <mwh_> anyone know where I can find the HP-laptops, which will be certified for breezy?
[12:38] <LuckyStrike> yet i cant seem to find that information
[12:39] <LuckyStrike> i can find evaluations of distros and basic programs but not a real diary with common mistakes that are made
[12:40] <mumbles-ccna-out> back and drunk
[12:40] <Di42lo> what codec should i install for gxine so he will work good ? except win32codecs ?
[12:41] <mumbles> !win32codecs
[12:41] <Di42lo> that it ?
[12:41] <mumbles> erm
[12:41] <mumbles> was hopeing the bot would respond
[12:41] <Di42lo> :|
[12:42] <mumbles> Di42lo,
[12:42] <mumbles> when you use synoptic
[12:42] <mumbles> just serch for win32codecs
[12:46] <blmartin777> hello
[12:48] <blmartin777> kinda quite in here
[12:49] <AndyRR> it is quiet
[12:49] <AndyRR> more than normal
[12:49] <mumbles> yeh i was thinking that
[12:49] <blmartin777> Everybody's sytem must be working perfectly
[12:50] <mumbles> yeyh
[12:50] <Troy_McClure> i fixed them all
[12:51] <mumbles> hehe
[12:53] <mpmc> How do I fix this???
[12:54] <mpmc> firefox-gnome-support:
[12:54] <mpmc>  Depends: firefox but it is not going to be installed
[12:54] <mpmc>  Depends: mozilla-firefox-gnome-support but it is not going to be installed
[12:54] <mpmc> :d
[12:54] <mpmc> :s*
[12:54] <mpmc> ideas?
[12:54] <mpmc> anyone?
[12:54] <mumbles> Troy_McClure i fixed them all -- u where sayin g
[12:55] <mpmc> firefox:
[12:55] <mpmc>  Depends: libcairo1 (>=0.3.0) but it is not installable
[12:55] <mpmc>  Depends: libpixman1 (>=0.1.3) but it is not installable
[12:55] <mpmc>  Depends: mozilla-firefox but it is not going to be installed
[12:55] <eventual1uddha> i couldn't remove the cd drive from the computer to replace it, so i ran the wires to another drive in another computer. it's a frankensteinien creation  :)
[12:55] <mpmc> looks like I'm gonna have to install ubuntu again :/
[12:55] <mumbles> !firefox
[12:55] <jasoncohen> mpmc, wait
[12:55] <mpmc> ok
[12:56] <jasoncohen> mpmc, did you use or are you using marillat?
[12:56] <mpmc> huh.. I'm new..
[12:56] <jasoncohen> or any other unofficial repository other than hoary-backports and hoary-extras
[12:56] <mpmc> please explain.
[12:56] <lcdd> i think "firefox" was in the backports
[12:56] <toasta> hey all, i gotta gnome question
[12:56] <jasoncohen> marillat is an unofficial debian repository that a lot of new users use because they see it on the forums and it's not meant to work with ubuntu. it'll break dependencies so packages don't install.
[12:57] <jasoncohen> mpmc, paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin or #flood
[12:57] <mpmc> well.. I was told on the firefox site that I need to update it. so. I removed it and tried using thier installer but it failed.
[12:57] <mebaran151> could anyone help me setup a pgsql database
[12:57] <lcdd> ubuntu needs proper documentation and less clueless users "helping" each other :)
[12:57] <bloodymale> i just put unbuntu in my lap top and it shut down my computer
[12:57] <sizzam> im running an amd xp 3000+ with a gig of ram and an nvidia gforce 440 mx 128mb card.   im running the k7 kernel and little else right now.   should i see glxgears speeds higher than 1000?
[12:58] <LuckyStrike> anyone know how to use a custom screensaver?
[12:58] <toasta> i get 1600 or more on a much weeker system using radeon9000 sizzam
[12:58] <sizzam> i could have sworn last time i installed i was getting 3000+ rates, i dont know if im missing a package or what
[12:58] <sampson> lol
[12:59] <bloodymale> i just put unbuntu in my lap top and it shut down my computer
[12:59] <TSWoodV> sizzam: Have you loaded the nvidia drivers?
[12:59] <jasoncohen> mpmc, a) ubuntu backports security bugfixes for firefox so you don't need backports
[12:59] <sizzam> TSWoodV:  yes, so far ive loaded the drivers, enabled glx, and installed linux-k7
[12:59] <mebaran151> anybody here familiar with pgsql
[12:59] <sizzam> this is a fresh install
[12:59] <TSWoodV> sizzam: check your xorg.conf file to make sure it's using "nvidia", not "nv".
[12:59] <toasta> where would one change the splash screen at
[01:00] <eventual1uddha> well, the frankenstein monster is reading hoary okay
[01:00] <sizzam> TSWoodV:  just confirmed that its "nvidia" in xorg.conf
[01:00] <swarm> how to modify parameters for esd in ubuntu?
[01:01] <bloodymale> i just put unbuntu in my lap top and it shut down my computer
[01:01] <sizzam> toasta:  how much vram does your radeon have?
[01:01] <bloodymale> can someone help me
[01:01] <TSWoodV> sizzam: That 440MX is a bit old.  You sure you've seen higher?
[01:01] <toasta> 64ddr
[01:02] <sizzam> TSWoodV:  yes, last install i was running the 386 kernel, upgraded to k7, and couldn't get the nvidia drivers to load.   someone in here had me install linux-k7 (i think thats what it was) and all of a sudden my performance improved drastically
[01:02] <sizzam> i think it was linux-k7, but he may have suggested something else
[01:03] <mumbles> sigh
[01:03] <mumbles> bored and tired
[01:03] <mumbles> going to go to bed
[01:03] <mumbles> well thinking off
[01:04] <crawl> hello , i need libvga.so.1 , what can i do with this?
[01:04] <crawl> im trying to run a game under ubuntu, it says i need this lib
[01:05] <crawl> so my questions is how can i add it to my system
[01:06] <toasta> so anyone know where the splash is located
[01:07] <bionic> When installing a new kernel and booting it, the ATI drivers has to be reinstalled?
[01:07] <toasta> or how to change it
[01:07] <r2d4> Hi! I mucked around a bit to turn off some services with ksysv and now gnome and other related WMs don't start.
[01:07] <r2d4> KDE is OK though.
[01:07] <bionic> make it easy, reboot :p
[01:08] <bionic> or did you shut them down manually?
[01:08] <r2d4> I don't see any error messages. It just drops me back to login screen.
[01:08] <jasoncohen> heh, well i fixed mpmc's problem. he just had to add sources for main & restricted which he must have accidentally removed
[01:08] <crawl> anyone can help me please
[01:08] <crawl> i need libvga.so.1 in ubuntu
[01:09] <mantikor> good evening folks
[01:09] <crimsun> crawl: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=libvga.so.1&searchmode=searchword&case=insensitive&version=hoary&arch=i386
[01:09] <toasta> hullo
[01:09] <r2d4> I am getting a pango warning for all GTK apps.
[01:09] <crawl> hi mantikor
[01:10] <sizzam> hey crimsun, you helped me get my nvidia kernel working with the k7 kernel the other day
[01:10] <crawl> crimsun : thanks :)
[01:10] <shane__> I need assistance from one of you experts out there on how to get my wusb11 linksys working.
[01:10] <mantikor> does anybody has y clue why i am geting a "connect (111 Connection refused)"  when i am "apt-get updating" ?
[01:10] <mantikor> server down?
[01:10] <crimsun> sizzam: yes, how are things?
[01:10] <shane__> I have tried to follow wiki instruction, but no avail.
[01:10] <sizzam> crimsun:  i ended up fubaring my system and had to start from scratch
[01:11] <crimsun> just use a live cd, problem resolved ;)
[01:11] <sizzam> crimsun:  do you recall if it was the linux-k7 package you recommended to fix my issues or if it was something else, im trying to apply the same fixes
[01:11] <crimsun> sizzam: yes, linux-k7
[01:11] <sizzam> crimsun:  k, i grabbed that, my glxgears rates are at 1000-ish,   last time i was getting around 3000ish
[01:12] <sizzam> wasnt sure if i was missing something else maybe
[01:12] <abarbaccia> hey all - i'm trying to export a line to a file like this:   sudo echo "blah blah blah" | sudo tee -a <filename>    --- but i want it to add it to the line before the last line - how do i do that?
[01:12] <crimsun> did you follow the instructions on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto ?
[01:12] <shane__> has anyone set up linksys usb adapter yet??
[01:12] <|C_V|> Has anyone installed the JDK 1.5?
[01:12] <crimsun> abarbaccia: you wouldn't use ,,sudo echo'', for starters
[01:13] <abarbaccia> crimsun, just echo?
[01:13] <r2d4> |C_V|: I have
[01:13] <TokenBad> 2528.000 FPS I get that in glxgears
[01:13] <crimsun> yes, that's why the sudo is in front of tee
[01:13] <sizzam> crimsun:  yea, i used those instructions, from ubuntuguide.org
[01:14] <ny3ranger> question about digital output for lcd monitors ..... I cant see it ... is there anything I can do. I can see on analog mode.
[01:14] <sizzam> TokenBad:  thats what i was used to seeing, which makes me think i have something incorrect
[01:14] <r2d4> |C_V|: Just don't use the rpm on the Sun's web site. alien conversion does not work.
[01:14] <mantikor> maby you can change the input signal on your flat screen
[01:14] <ny3ranger> no i got that
[01:14] <ny3ranger> but i dont see anything
[01:15] <r2d4> |C_V|: use the other installer.
[01:15] <toasta> so how do you change the splash image
[01:15] <mantikor> right from the startup of you system or when you start gdm
[01:15] <shane__> Does anyone have procedures to install and configure Linksys usb wusb11 adapter?  I have tried the WIKI wireless instructions but it doesn't work.
[01:15] <toasta> is it safe to assume nobody knows?
[01:15] <mantikor> toasta: go on gnome.org
[01:16] <abarbaccia> crimsun, no dice on that line?
[01:16] <|C_V|> i have the installer. What next?
[01:16] <crimsun> abarbaccia: -a appends
[01:16] <sizzam> toasta:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41709
[01:16] <abarbaccia> crimsun, but the bottom line as of now is an exit 0 - it needs to go before that
[01:17] <toasta> sizzam,mantikor, thanks
[01:17] <mantikor> but what shall i do with the message connect (111 Connection refused) when i use apt-get ?
[01:17] <crimsun> abarbaccia: so think what tools you can use, namely cat, head, and shell magic
[01:18] <crimsun> s/head/grep/g
[01:18] <zirpu> anyone know if there is a compatible mainboard list for ubuntu 5.04 for amd opteron?
[01:19] <zirpu> the only one i've found is for debian, and i'm not certain that necessarily applies to the ubuntu distro.
[01:19] <Tomcat_> zirpu: Just search for <product name> on Ubuntu websites, and see if anyone has had problems.
[01:19] <Tomcat_> zirpu: And stuff that's written for Debian applies to Ubuntu... just not in the details.
[01:20] <zirpu> ah. ok. thanks.
[01:20] <abarbaccia> crimsun, i give up - i'm gonna just be like - edit it yourself
[01:20] <Tomcat_> zirpu: Buy something from a good (bigger) company, and you won't have problems... except if people already complain about it on forums. :)
[01:21] <Tomcat_> zirpu: I bought an ASUS A8N-E for example - no problems at all, there are even Linux drivers on the official CD.
[01:21] <chris> nybody here no how to get n64 2 work
[01:21] <zirpu> heh. ok. i'm considering buying a box from racklogic.com.  i know fedora core 3 worked on their boxes.
[01:22] <crimsun> abarbaccia: it's pretty simple. cat somefile |grep -v "exit 0" |sudo tee somefile.tmp && echo "yay" | sudo tee -a somefile.tmp && echo "exit 0" | sudo tee -a somefile.tmp
[01:22] <crimsun> abarbaccia: securing the temporary file is left as an exercise to the reader.
[01:22] <Tomcat_> zirpu: That's a good indication then. :)
[01:22] <chrisinator> nybody here know how 2 get sound in the internet
[01:23] <Tomcat_> chrisinator: Try to be more specific... what is "sound in the internet"
[01:23] <Tomcat_> -+?
[01:24] <Markrian> Does anyone speak good spanish and english here? I received an email in spanish and I'm not entirely sure what it says
[01:24] <chrisinator> in flash stuff like homestarrunner
[01:24] <teferi> I had five years of spanish in high school...
[01:24] <desrt> Markrian; strange place to come :)
[01:24] <cafuego> Markrian: http://babelfish.altavista.com/
[01:24] <teferi> but some of it is all muddled with the Latin I had in college.
[01:24] <Di42lo> what cool desktop tools ubuntu have ?
[01:24] <Markrian> desrt: I know, but this is like the only IRC channel I frequent :p
[01:24] <chrisinator> markrian use google transfer
[01:24] <teferi> so, um, I can probably still read it
[01:24] <Markrian> cafuego: that doesn't help me much with it :p
[01:25] <cafuego> Markrian: "The tree when in there stands" ?
[01:25] <Markrian> cafuego: ...what?
[01:25] <Markrian> teferi: thanks, lemme just paste the email at paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:26] <chrisinator> does nyoe know how to get sound in flash in the internet
[01:26] <ubuntuclient> <--newbie question regarding wine...i am trying to execute a program suing wine but cannot cd to the program files directory within /.wine/c_drive, any ideas?
[01:26] <mumbles> right bed
[01:26] <Markrian> teferi: ok, it's up
[01:26] <desrt> anyone install the new xlibs on breezy today?
[01:26] <teferi> desrt: yeah
[01:26] <abarbaccia> ubuntuclient, slash out the spaces
[01:27] <teferi> desrt: you have to clean out /etc/X11/xkb
[01:27] <desrt> teferi; how did you fix them? :)
[01:27] <cafuego> they are downloading right now
[01:27] <desrt> teferi; i just did
[01:27] <ablyss> ubuntuclient: "cd .wine/c_drive"
[01:27] <abarbaccia> ubuntuclient, just type Progra then hit tab
[01:27] <teferi> desrt: did you delete the directory itself?
[01:27] <ubuntuclient> slash out? you mean replace the space with a forward slash?
[01:27] <Tomcat_> chrisinator: You can see the video but hear no sound?
[01:27] <desrt> teferi; i just mkdir'd it.  worked.  thanks :)
[01:27] <ablyss>  /.wine << no good
[01:27] <ubuntuclient> copolio, thanks much
[01:27] <teferi> desrt: yeah, the directory has to be there for it to remove :)
[01:27] <chrisinator> yah
[01:28] <desrt> silly ubuntu
[01:28] <chrisinator> i think it might be my speaker, but im not sure
[01:28] <teferi> Markrian: this seems to be garbage
[01:28] <Tomcat_> chrisinator: Do you have sound in other applications?
[01:28] <desrt> trix are for hedgehogs
[01:28] <chrisinator> yah
[01:28] <chrisinator> cdplayer
[01:28] <chrisinator> and mplayer
[01:28] <kbrooks> trix is ew
[01:28] <kbrooks> )
[01:28] <kbrooks> :)
[01:28] <teferi> Markrian: probably spam crap?
[01:28] <ubuntuclient> 'abaraccia, i tried that but it doesn't auto fill in the rest of the directory
[01:28] <DarkSpy> Markrian: it's about last name: FREYTTER -FLORIAN something like that
[01:28] <teferi> either that, or they're asking something about your name.
[01:28] <ubuntuclient> i can view it in file manager but cannot in cmi
[01:28] <teferi> i think the second is more likely, upon second thought
[01:28] <ubuntuclient> cli that is
[01:29] <DarkSpy> probably about your family tree
[01:29] <mebaran151> could some one help me setup pgsql
[01:29] <teferi> responding "lo siento, no hablo espaol" will probably be a decent idea
[01:30] <Markrian> weird... y'see, he first emailed me in English, but it was largely gibberish, so I assumed that he was just not very good with English and suggested he use spanish (he used a few spanish words), and since I did Spanish back at school I thought I'd have a better chance.. but what the hell.
[01:30] <Tomcat_> chrisinator: If you have sound in mplayer it should be working in Flash... did you install flash by using a package?
[01:30] <teferi> Markrian: it's not particularly good spanish either, i think...
[01:30] <teferi> though it's been some time since spanish
[01:30] <Markrian> teferi: maybe he used babelfish on the English he sent me? :p
[01:31] <chrisinator> i used apt-get
[01:31] <teferi> no, it's better than that
[01:31] <LuckyStrike> is there a simple mspaint like program I can use in ubuntu?
[01:31] <DarkSpy> Markrian: do you have spanish family?
[01:31] <Markrian> DarkSpy:
[01:31] <Markrian> Not as far as I know!
[01:31] <kbrooks> LuckyStrike, so not gimp?
[01:32] <LuckyStrike> yep
[01:32] <LuckyStrike> gimp = adobe photoshop equivelant, I want a mspaint equivelant
[01:32] <ubuntuclient> need help using wine, cannot change directory to the program files directory within .wine/c_drive, any other ideas?
[01:32] <chrisinator> maybe it is my soundcard?
[01:32] <cafuego> LuckyStrike: tuxpaint
[01:32] <cafuego> LuckyStrike: Although I expect even that is nowhere neara s shit as mspaint ;-)
[01:33] <LuckyStrike> sounds like the thing for me
[01:33] <Tomcat_> chrisinator: It's really weird.  Of course I'd know the answer to that! What a weirdo :/
[01:34] <LuckyStrike> hmm a fair amount of updates to download for ubuntu
[01:34] <DarkSpy> lol
[01:35] <Tomcat_> chrisinator: You can search the program "hotkeys" for a keyboard like yours... or create your own profile.
[01:35] <chrisinator> thanks
[01:36] <mpmc> Whats everyone doing>
[01:36] <chrisinator> can nyone get tuxracer working
[01:37] <cafuego> i'm breathing.
[01:37] <chrisinator> it wont work 4 me
[01:37] <Mez> o_O
[01:37] <cafuego> it's my favourite hobby.
[01:37] <Mez> freaky.
[01:37] <Mez> the comp next to em jsu turned itself on
[01:37] <ubuntuclient> need help using wine, cannot change directory to the program files directory within .wine/c_drive, any other ideas?
[01:37] <Phinite> working, sigh.
[01:37] <Phinite> I'd love to be configuring my laptop wireless to work though
[01:38] <cafuego> ubuntuclient: run .wine/c_drive/Program\\ Files/foo/bar.exe
[01:38] <cafuego> ubuntuclient: Note the DOUBLE \\ before the space
[01:38] <Wimpie> does anybody know a good package that autodetects on which network my laptop connects so that the interfaces file sets up the proper network ?
[01:38] <ubuntuclient> thankx cafuego...i'll try that
[01:38] <desrt> cafuego; pretty sure you want triple there :)
[01:38] <cafuego> ubuntuclient: If that doesn't work, just cd into the application directory, then run ./foo.exe
[01:39] <chrisinator> can someone help me
[01:39] <cafuego> Eh, wine ./foo.exe
[01:39] <Markrian> cafuego: I'm not sure the double \ is necessary to escape a space?
[01:39] <cafuego> Markrian: wine is a wrapper, so you need to escape the \ as well as the space.
[01:39] <cafuego> I've needed to anyway
[01:39] <HrdwrBoB> cafuego: I generally wrap the whole thing in "
[01:39] <Markrian> Ah, I see, I've never noticed
[01:39] <HrdwrBoB> rather than escaping
[01:39] <chrisinator> i am trying 2 get tuxracer working
[01:39] <desrt> cafuego; command foo\\ bar is 2 arguments
[01:39] <lenoxmo>  /server irc.cl
[01:39] <desrt> "foo\" and "bar"
[01:39] <HrdwrBoB> generally better practise
[01:40] <desrt> command foo\\\ bar gives you "foo\ bar"
[01:41] <ubuntuclient> cafuego: I don't knwo what else I could be dpoing wrong, it says no such file or location, I've double checked the spelling, but can't seem to cd to Program// Files
[01:41] <cafuego> ubuntuclient: \\ is not //
[01:41] <cafuego> ubuntuclient: if you weant to cd to it, use a single \.
[01:41] <cafuego> ubuntuclient: or quote it, like HrdwrBoB suggests.
[01:42] <cafuego> ubuntuclient: cd "~/.wine/c_drive/Program Files"
[01:42] <Phinite> Wimpie: ssidselect does that I believe
[01:42] <Phinite> google that and see what you come up with
[01:42] <ubuntuclient> i see, leme give it another shot
[01:43] <ubuntuclient> cafuego: Awesome, it worked, thanks for your help and patients!
[01:43] <chrisinator> will someone help me
[01:43] <pc16> hoaaaaa
[01:43] <mike998> does anyone know if there is a problem with the gdesklets server?
[01:43] <pc16> h hdfnc hyf ch ch h cdhskd  hw jus
[01:43] <chrisinator> i need help setting up pci cad
[01:43] <chrisinator> card
[01:43] <pc16> soy chileno conchetumadreeeee
[01:44] <LuckyStrike> I really like the gimp it is way more intuitive than photoshop
[01:44] <kamstrumental> greetings
[01:44] <chrisinator> does anyone know how 2 set up a pci card on hoary
[01:44] <cafuego> chrisinator: Open box, insert card, boot, load driver if needed.
[01:44] <kamstrumental> I JUST installed ubuntu... this is awesome.
[01:44] <laura> I'm trying to ./configure --enable-gui, but it tells me that I need PNG support. When I try to download the newest version via Synaptic Package Manager, it gives me an error
[01:44] <kamstrumental> I switched from Suse... I am novice with linux overall
[01:44] <laura> help!?
[01:44] <chrisinator> cafuego: this makes it so it goes black right before deskto
[01:44] <cafuego> laura: ./configure what exactly?
[01:45] <laura> ./configure --enable-gui
[01:45] <cafuego> chrisinator: Hmm. What card did you plug in?
[01:45] <cafuego> laura: What software?
[01:45] <chrisinator> cafuego: Voodoo 3
[01:45] <laura> trying to install Mplayer, following this guide: http://www.oldskoolphreak.com/tfiles/hack/ubuntu.txt
[01:46] <cafuego> laura: Ah ok. Does the precompiled one not have the gui?
[01:46] <chrisinator> laura: just search google mplayer deb file then do sudo apt-get mplayer
[01:46] <laura> I didn't try it
[01:46] <ce33na> kamstrumental: congrats
[01:46] <chrisinator> cafuego: Voodoo 3 PC1 Card
[01:46] <laura> k
[01:46] <cafuego> laura: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats has (I think) info on it.
[01:47] <laura> h/o
[01:47] <cafuego> chrisinator: Ah ok. You need to reconfigure X for the new video card. Hit alt-F1 to switch to the console, log in, then run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86' and tell it you have a Voodoo3 now.
[01:47] <laura> iger
[01:47] <laura> oops
[01:48] <cafuego> chrisinator: no, I lied. Run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[01:48] <struggler> grep: The -P option is not supported
[01:48] <struggler> grep --version
[01:48] <struggler> grep (GNU grep) 2.5.1
[01:48] <struggler> grep: The -P option is not supported
[01:48] <struggler> the man page says  -P, --perl-regexp  Interpret PATTERN as a Perl regular expression.
[01:49] <cafuego> struggler: try rgrep instead
[01:49] <cafuego> Hmm, also not.
[01:49] <Phinite> network tools doesn't seem to be even seeing my wireless adapter, what can I do to find out why?
[01:49] <struggler> cafuego, well if that works the man page is still broken
[01:49] <cafuego> Phinite: is the adapter supported by Linux?
[01:49] <laura> so can I just install a precompiled version of Mplayer?
[01:50] <cafuego> laura: yep
[01:50] <Phinite> yes, it has worked for non secure, but playing with secure I managed to make it go away ;)
[01:50] <Phinite> it worked right out of the box on non secure
[01:50] <struggler> rgrep: The -P option is not supported
[01:50] <ce33na> Phinite: look into ndiswrapper...can't help you though....My laptop is waiting for me to do the same
[01:50] <cafuego> Phinite: d'oh!
[01:50] <nameless1> can someone help me out im tryin to load ut2004 and im getting the following error   Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[01:50] <laura> from where? i'm on the site, and it just isn't there
[01:50] <cafuego> laura: let me see...
[01:50] <Velcan> anyone familiar with making icon sets or know a good channel for that?
[01:50] <kamstrumental> Since I am still novice, I have my HD partitioned off into 2 partitions.. 1 for Windows, and 1 for ubuntu.... I used partition magic in windows to create the partitions. When I decided to switch from suse to ubuntu, I deleted the partition with suse and left that partition as free space.. I restarted out of windows and booted off of ubuntu disk and installed. My problem is that I do not have a option to boot into windows.. I boot st
[01:50] <kamstrumental> raight into ubuntu...?
[01:51] <cafuego> ubotu is dead!!!
[01:51] <ce33na> kamstrumental: give me a minute to remember how to edit it back in
[01:51] <jcsh> hello
[01:51] <kamstrumental> thx
[01:51] <cafuego> !tell laura -about mplayer
[01:52] <laura> huh?
[01:52] <cafuego> laura: You just got a message from ubotu.
[01:52] <teferi> huh, that shouldn't have happened
[01:53] <laura> yeah
[01:53] <laura> will try, thanks much
[01:53] <cafuego> np
[01:56] <Phinite> I'm getting an unknown interface wlan0... where do I go and configure that now?  it looks like it tried putting it as eth0
[01:57] <HrdwrBoB> Phinite: just use it as eth0
[01:58] <Phinite> which is also not showing up anywhere.  how can I force the system to re aquire the information it had by default before?
[01:58] <ce33na> kamstrumental: still here?
[01:58] <kbrooks> I want to create a template
[01:58] <kbrooks> a file template
[01:58] <kbrooks> how do i do that
[01:59] <kamstrumental> yes i am
[01:59] <ce33na> kamstrumental: do you know how to edit a file in linux?
[01:59] <frank> v
[02:01] <kamstrumental> i'd need a refresher
[02:01] <kamstrumental> I know I must log in as admin to edit
[02:01] <kamstrumental> through terminal
[02:01] <ce33na> open a terminal windows on another desktop
[02:01] <kamstrumental> k
[02:01] <ce33na> type "sudo gedit /boot/grub" and come back here
[02:01] <ce33na> it will ask for a password
[02:02] <kamstrumental> k
[02:02] <dphase> se
[02:02] <kamstrumental> it opened brub file
[02:02] <kamstrumental> grub
[02:02] <ce33na> oops...sorry..wrong file
[02:03] <kamstrumental> lol ok
[02:03] <ce33na> type "sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst" and come back here
[02:03] <kamstrumental> opened menu.lst
[02:03] <Phinite> my wireless card isn't being picked up at all now under anyname.  how can I see what was loaded for it during boot and then how do I get it to comeup from there?
[02:04] <ce33na> look for a line that says something to the effect of "end debian automagic kernels list"
[02:04] <abrave2> ello
[02:04] <kamstrumental> it is blank
[02:04] <abrave2> how do i run a session as the root user?
[02:05] <Phinite> open a session and sudo su -
[02:05] <ce33na> kamstrumental: what partition is your windows drive? the first one on the first hard drive?
[02:05] <nameless1> can someone tell me how to get rid of the following error that i get when trying to play ut2004
[02:05] <nameless1> Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[02:06] <abrave2> in a terminal or as the username?
[02:06] <ce33na> kamstrumental: if you are not sure..it probably is
[02:06] <cafuego> Phinite: First off, check 'lspci'
[02:07] <kamstrumental> yes, it is the largest...
[02:07] <Phinite> cafuego: will do.
[02:07] <Phinite> abrave2: two ways, open a normal terminal and do the sudo su -
[02:07] <kamstrumental> the HD is 80Gigs and I partioned off about 8 for linux
[02:07] <Phinite> abrave2: other way is you can select root session through one of the gui dropdowns Applications | System Tools | Root Terminal
[02:07] <ce33na> directly below "end debian blah blah.." enter each of these on a new line
[02:07] <Phinite> you of course need the root pwd
[02:08] <ce33na> kamtstrumental: title windows
[02:08] <cafuego> Phinite: There isn't a root password.
[02:08] <ce33na> kamtstrumental: root (hd0,0)
[02:08] <ce33na> kamtstrumental: savedefault
[02:08] <ce33na> kamtstrumental: makeactive
[02:08] <ce33na> kamtstrumental: chainloader +1
[02:08] <ce33na> kamtstrumental: that is five new lines
[02:09] <Phinite> oh, sorry, your own password and be in the sudoers list
[02:09] <Phinite> :)
[02:09] <Phinite> wasn't paying attention to what I was writing
[02:09] <Phinite> :)
[02:09] <Hoxzer> how can I setup samba to not to ask password when I try to browse the linux PC from windows
[02:09] <Phinite> cafuego: Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation: Unknown device 167d (rev 11)
[02:09] <Phinite> but I swear it worked on first install with non-secure networks
[02:10] <stetyR> hi
[02:10] <Phinite> it's an ipw2200
[02:11] <kamstrumental> ce33na: the menu.lst has nothing in it...
[02:11] <ce33na> kamtstrumental: what file is it showing at the top
[02:11] <bonk> hello
[02:11] <cafuego> Phinite: You'll be needing the non-free drivers for that, then.
[02:12] <cafuego> !find ipw2200
[02:12] <bonk> what's the port for apt-get?
[02:12] <crimsun> 80
[02:12] <bonk> is it?
[02:12] <bonk> 'cause 80 isn't blocked here, but I can'
[02:12] <cafuego> bonk: 80 if it uses http and 21/20 or 1024+ if it's ftp.
[02:12] <bonk> can't update
[02:12] <Phinite> cafuego: yahh.  I love that :)
[02:12] <bonk> thanks,...
[02:13] <cafuego> Phinite: is ipw2200 loaded? (check lsmod)
[02:13] <bonk> does anyone have any ideas why I can't apt-get update
[02:13] <bonk> ?
[02:14] <bonk> it simply can't connect
[02:14] <cafuego> bonk: Using a broken mirror perhaps?
[02:15] <bonk> I don't think it is, I'll try changing to ubuntu.com
[02:15] <bonk> nope
[02:16] <bonk> it says it's connecting, but just sits at 0%
[02:16] <cafuego> bonk: Do you have a http_proxy variable set/ Does that proxy exist? Can you telnet to port 80 on the archive server?
[02:16] <bonk> no idea
[02:16] <bonk> where do I start?
[02:16] <Phinite> cafuego: the version that comes out of the box is an old one that does support non secure, but not secure.  I've found a site and am reading how to deal with it.  I'll let you know if it works as I'm sure others will ask about this
[02:16] <Determinist> how do i mount a ntfs partition?
[02:16] <ce33na> kamtstrumental: that is a problem
[02:16] <cafuego> bonk: telnet <server> 80
[02:17] <cafuego> !ntfs
[02:17] <ubotu> I heard ntfs is the filesystem used under Windows XP. The Ubuntu installer can safely resize an NTFS partition to create a new partition for you to install Ubuntu. http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[02:17] <cafuego> Determinist: Fetch http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[02:17] <ce33na> kamtstrumental: gotta run
[02:17] <Burgundavia> cafuego, who runs ubotu?
[02:17] <cafuego> Burgundavia: I do.
[02:18] <Burgundavia> cafuego, can you join me in #ubuntu-doc ?
[02:18] <cafuego> Burgundavia: Sure
[02:18] <bonk> cafuego, nothing happens when I do thaty
[02:18] <Buckwheat> Are there problems with the ubuntu repositories?  I've been getting MD5SUM mismatches on some files and I see a couple of other people have the same problem in the forums.
[02:18] <ColonelKernel> thats crazy you guys made parted part of the install
[02:18] <ColonelKernel> nice feature
[02:18] <ColonelKernel> very very nice feature
[02:18] <XRayNuke> !md5sum
[02:18] <ubotu> XRayNuke: I haven't a clue
[02:19] <hondje> !usrepos
[02:19] <ubotu> from memory, usrepos is if you get MD5Sum mismatches when doing apt-get installs don't use the us mirror.  Change us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:19] <XRayNuke> thanks hondje
[02:19] <hondje> no prob :)
[02:19] <Determinist> cafuego, it says no useable windows partitions ...
[02:20] <XRayNuke> buckwheat: yes, and you can fix it by looking at ubotu's instruction
[02:20] <mike998> hey guys, is there something along the lines of kuake for gnome?  It's an app that is basically a terminal similar to the quake terminal from the game of the same name
[02:21] <ivan__> hi all a question ive installed xmms i know it can read the tracks because it shows them but i cant hear them, although i can hear them in the default cd player
[02:21] <Determinist> mike998, erm , you mean it looks the same or what?
[02:21] <mike998> Determinist: yah, I'd like to have the same behaviour
[02:21] <mike998> mmm eyecandy
[02:22] <Determinist> mike998, that could be nice :D
[02:22] <mike998> *sigh* ohh yeah
[02:22] <mike998> ctrl+alt+tildhe = instant terminal
[02:22] <Phinite> cafuego: so far so good :)
[02:22] <mike998> ivan__ do you have the correct output selected ?
[02:22] <ivan__> ?? anyone a way to fix this ive tried somethings in the plugins section  but noo i cant hear
[02:23] <mike998> Determinist: yeahconsole
[02:23] <nameless1> I NEED HELP can someone tell me how to fix this error Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[02:23] <mike998> http://phrat.de/downloads.html
[02:24] <mike998> ivan__: have you selected the correct output for xmms?
[02:24] <ivan__> yep mike ive tried with alsa, oss, esound and disk writer
[02:24] <mike998> ivan__: is the mute off?
[02:24] <Determinist> ivan__, check to see if the cd input plugin is configured correctly
[02:25] <Burgundavia> !wiki
[02:25] <ivan__> i think it is mike because i can hear the cd from the default cd player
[02:25] <Eli2005> Is there anyway on the Ubuntu LiveCD that I can access my Windows partiton?
[02:25] <Determinist> ivan__, i dont think xmms uses any standard system thing to read the CDs , it has it's own plugin like winamp does
[02:25] <Eli2005> I'm sort of new to Linux
[02:25] <kamstrumental> just installed ubuntu.. on 2 partition computer... any way to get a boot menu up so I can go back to windows when needed?
[02:26] <Determinist> Eli2005, mount the windows partitions
[02:26] <mike998> ivan__: are you getting any kind of display on xmms: is the song title scrolling ?
[02:26] <Eli2005> What would I type in the terminal (I'm new to Linux :( )
[02:26] <ivan__> yes
[02:26] <ivan__> its playing it
[02:27] <mike998> hmmm
[02:27] <ivan__> but i cant hear it
[02:27] <ivan__> it says stereo in right corner
[02:27] <ivan__> 14H kbps  44hz freq
[02:27] <flodine> is there a way to change the icons in gaim
[02:27] <Determinist> any idea about how to mount NTFS partitions?
[02:27] <ivan__> so i think it receives audio
[02:27] <ivan__> but cant output it or something
[02:27] <XRayNuke> kamstrumental: so you can switch OSes at system startup, right?
[02:28] <Eli2005> nope
[02:28] <Eli2005> Like I said, I'm brand new to Linux
[02:28] <kamstrumental> XRayNuke: yes
[02:28] <Eli2005> Got my CD's in the mail this morning :)
[02:28] <kamstrumental> I thought ubuntu would automatically set that up
[02:28] <ColonelKernel> Woohoo!!!
[02:29] <ivan__> any idea ___mike
[02:29] <ColonelKernel> centos router w ubuntu workstation
[02:29] <ColonelKernel> life is good
[02:29] <mike998> I'm afraid not
[02:29] <flodine> hey im new to linux'
[02:29] <XRayNuke> kamstrumental: usually it does... anyway, you need to install GRUB on the disk your system boots from
[02:29] <nameless1> I NEED HELP can someone tell me how to fix this error Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[02:29] <rob^> !stupid bot
[02:29] <ivan__> mmm thnx
[02:29] <ubotu> stupid rob^
[02:29] <ivan__> i think
[02:29] <ivan__> ill search something
[02:29] <mike998> sorry man
[02:29] <flodine> is there a way to change the icons in gaim help the newbie
[02:30] <XRayNuke> flodine: you mean the :) :( :P icons?
[02:30] <RedDevil> Determinist: you must have the kernel compiled with NTFS support, or if you do not want to compile the kernel you can install a package that allows you to do that...
[02:30] <jtaylor> hmm... I bought a cheap little ata controller but when I add it, ubuntu doesnt start.  It loads grub, but then says it cant map the hd or something.  I left all the cables etc as is, just added the card.  Any ideas?
[02:30] <lcdd> oh yeah, why doesn't d-i handle ntfs partitions so that you could set a mount point during the installation?
[02:30] <kamstrumental> KRayNuke: stupid question... how do I tell which disk it boots from?
[02:30] <someluser> can anyone fix a broken nvidia driver and tell me why GL games freeze my system?
[02:31] <cptanalatriste> hi there...!
[02:31] <Burgundavia> !sources
[02:31] <ubotu> I heard sources is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[02:31] <mike998> Where is my xdefaults under xorg?
[02:31] <XRayNuke> kamstrumental: check your BIOS settings. It's probably configured to start from the first hard drive it sees, which is usually the master drive on the first ATA bus in your machine.
[02:32] <mike998> ohhh baby
[02:32] <mike998> don't worry - I found it
[02:32] <mike998> Determinist: you still here?
[02:32] <XRayNuke> kamstrumental: since you can't get into windows, it's probably booting from whatever disk you installed ubuntu on
[02:32] <dwstil> where can i find a printable document on connecting to the internet via modem on the wiki?
[02:32] <kamstrumental> KRayNuke: so the partition with linux on it is recognized as the master drive?
[02:32] <dwstil> i've searched everywhere and can't find anythign
[02:33] <Mr> I need to know ow to log in to the gui as root or give give a regular user admin privledges
[02:33] <nameless1> I NEED HELP can someone tell me how to fix this error Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[02:33] <Determinist> mike998, aye
[02:33] <XRayNuke> kamstrumental: on your system it must be
[02:33] <mike998> Determinist: yeahconsole is really cool
[02:33] <XRayNuke> kamstrumental: you're in Ubuntu now, right?
[02:33] <kamstrumental> yes
[02:33] <XRayNuke> kamstrumental: do you have a /boot/grub folder?
[02:33] <Determinist> mike998, too much eyecandy for me i think mate :)
[02:34] <mike998> ctrl+alt+y = instant console
[02:34] <mike998> it's hidden the rest of the time
[02:34] <someluser> Can anyone help me fix my broken nvidia driver and tell me why GL games freeze my system?
[02:34] <kamstrumental> XRayNuke: no grub folder in the boot folder
[02:36] <Determinist> hmmm , fdisk -l shows i have 2 windows partitions namely hda1 and hda2 but /dev/hda1 or /dev/hda2 do not exist , why would this happen?
[02:36] <XRayNuke> kamstrumental: sounds like your install procedure skipped over GRUB somehow. GRUB is the default Ubuntu bootloader, and can be configured to boot Windows or whatever. Usually the Ubuntu installer installs GRUB. On my system it found WinXP automatically and added it to the boot menu
[02:36] <Ahab> how can I remove a shortcut (I know I'm probably using the wrong terminology here) from the applications list in gnome?  I got rid of realplayer but it's still listed in applications -> sound & video?  I right clicked on it ala windows but the context menu didn't give me a delete option.
[02:36] <XRayNuke> !grub
[02:36] <ubotu> methinks grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto
[02:36] <nameless1> I NEED HELP can someone tell me how to fix this error Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[02:37] <Determinist> any idea why ubuntu isnt using grub 2?
[02:37] <Howitzer> does anybody know where to get the NV-CONTROL extenstion?
[02:37] <bonk> could someone please help? I can't sudo apt-get update, it "could not connect". I can ping the server fine, but apt-get can't establish contact
[02:37] <kamstrumental> XRayNuke: I must have went through installation and missed the option or someting.. can i boot from cd and load that option?
[02:37] <mike998> Ahab: check out the forums for SMEG it's a menu editing piece of software
[02:38] <XRayNuke> okay, that's not very helpful.
[02:38] <XRayNuke> kamstrumental: I'm not sure.
[02:38] <bonk> anyone know why?
[02:38] <someluser> nameless1: what videocard do you have and what is your xorg.conf file set to load as your driver?
[02:38] <Ahab> mike998, thanks
[02:38] <tdmg> hey there guys :D
[02:38] <kamstrumental> XRayNuke: brb, i'm going to try that... would'nt hurt to try i guess...
[02:38] <XRayNuke> kamstrumental: try booting from the ubuntu install CD, typing "expert"
[02:38] <harold> Hello family
[02:38] <tdmg> I'm having problems (as you might have expected)
[02:39] <lcdd> Howitzer: the nvidia binary driver provides it
[02:39] <Howitzer> oh
[02:39] <dwstil> is a package is already in debain it's already under ubuntu as well, right?
[02:39] <dwstil> *if a
[02:39] <XRayNuke> kamstrumental: at the boot prompt, and then scrolling down to the Install GRUB menu entry
[02:39] <tdmg> is there a line here, or should I just say what my problem is?
[02:39] <nameless1> someluser, i have a ati radeon x800pro  my xorg.conf is setup with the default stuff i got gl to work i think as i did some gl test with cogs but i cant get fgl or whatever its called to work and i need that for unreal2004
[02:39] <Howitzer> nvidia-kernel-common - NVIDIA binary kernel module common files
[02:39] <Howitzer> ?
[02:40] <tdmg> *waits for answer*
[02:40] <someluser> nameless1: tell me what the driver is set to in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[02:40] <Harold> Ho Seveas
[02:40] <nameless1> someluser, glxgears works but the fglxgears does not work
[02:40] <nameless1> someluser, what part of the xorg will it be in
[02:41] <someluser> nameless1: it will be labeled as your graphics card, usually towards the middle of the file
[02:41] <nameless1> Section "Device"
[02:41] <nameless1> 	Identifier	"ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon X800 Pro (R420 JI)"
[02:41] <nameless1> 	Driver		"fglrx"
[02:41] <nameless1> 	BusID		"PCI:2:0:0"
[02:41] <nameless1> EndSection
[02:41] <Harold> nalioth, As soon as I show up, you decide to stop working, huh?
[02:41] <nameless1> someluser,  is that what you meant?
[02:42] <jtaylor> I add an ATA card to my system.  When it boots grub, the linux kernel sees my onboard ide card AFTER the new ATA card causing my HD to show up as hde instead of hda which of course causes init to hang as it cannot find the root partition on hda.  Any ideas how to fix this?
[02:42] <someluser> nameless1: don't paste
[02:42] <Howitzer> BTW
[02:42] <Howitzer> i have a weird problem
[02:42] <someluser> nameless1:  but yes
[02:42] <Harold> nalioth, Did I seem pissy the other day?
[02:42] <Howitzer> i cannot use openGL
[02:42] <Howitzer> it says i don't have openGL
[02:42] <nameless1> someluser,  do you know how to fix it?
[02:42] <Howitzer> but that's bull****
[02:42] <someluser> nameless1: hold on
[02:42] <dwstil> i can install from source files if i don't have the internet in a terminal right?
[02:43] <Howitzer> dwstil,
[02:43] <nalioth> Harold: pissy?
[02:43] <Harold> nalioth, Seveas I finally got my wireless card working, and it looks like I'm sticking with Ubuntu.
[02:43] <tdmg> guys, everything freezes up when I start X.  I'll log in, and within the first 5 minutes it will freeze.  It doesn't seem to be related to any program or anything. I might just go to the bathroom and I'll come back and it's frozes
[02:43] <Harold> nalioth, I was frustrated, trying to get this wireless card going.
[02:43] <Howitzer> if you have a connection in a winow manager you MUST have a connection in your terminal
[02:43] <frank> tdmg: are you using a athlon64?
[02:43] <tdmg> yes
[02:43] <Harold> nalioth, Looks like madwifi worked on this old Mac.
[02:43] <Howitzer> problem found? :D
[02:43] <someluser> nameless1: read this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557
[02:44] <XRayNuke> jtaylor: take out the ATA card, change your grub settings to account for the ordering change, shut down, put the card back in, reboot.
[02:44] <tdmg> I have the AMD64 version though
[02:44] <nalioth> Harold: i saw no problems
[02:44] <frank> tdmg: maybe you have the same powernowd fuck as I have
[02:44] <Howitzer> adrian@ubuntu:~$ nvidia-settings
[02:44] <Howitzer> ERROR: NV-CONTROL extension not found on this Display.
[02:44] <Howitzer> i installed everything
[02:44] <tdmg> frank, what does that mean for me?
[02:44] <Harold> nalioth, Pissy/pissed off/frustrated/impatient
[02:44] <frank> tdmg: this problem can happen in both amd64 and i386 versions
[02:44] <XRayNuke> jtaylor: there's an argument to the grub statement that starts the Linux kernel that tells it what disk and partition to use for root
[02:44] <Harold> nalioth, Now: Happy/happy/joy/joy
[02:44] <jtaylor> XRayNuke, that sux though since I have a lot of software raid settings that depends on hda, etc
[02:44] <someluser> nameless1: g2g
[02:44] <nameless1> someluser, k ill try that... i doubt it will fix it tho i already tried alot of this stuff brb
[02:45] <Harold> XRayNuke, When's that game of Quake?
[02:45] <nameless1> someluser, k thanx for your help, bye
[02:45] <someluser> nameless1: later
[02:45] <Harold> XRayNuke, Or Marathon?
[02:45] <tdmg> ummmm....what's a powernowd anyway?
[02:45] <frank> tdmg: try   sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/powernowd  to disable powernowd and reboot
[02:45] <tdmg> okay, thanks! :D
[02:45] <XRayNuke> Harold: not today sorry, i'm leaving for San Diego and Comiccon in a few hours :-/
[02:45] <nalioth> Harold: great to hear
[02:45] <tdmg> I'll see how it goes
[02:45] <tdmg> what is a powernowd though? will I be limiting myself?
[02:46] <Harold> XRayNuke, Not today; I'm not prepared either.  Have fun at Comicon.  Say hello to Starbuck for me.  (Or Apollo; whoever it is who's always there.)
[02:46] <Harold> nalioth, You've been an outstanding help.
[02:46] <Harold> Seveas, Thank you for your help with getting my Ubuntu installation up and running, too.
[02:46] <frank> tdmg: It slows down the cpu when you are not using it so disableing only runs it at full speed all the time
[02:46] <Madpilot> hi all.
[02:47] <hajiki> hola
[02:47] <tdmg> Frank, thanks again, I'll update you in a bit :)
[02:47] <Harold> nalioth, So I'm using dillo - I believe you mentioned it to me - and I've also got Kazehakase installed, though I believe it takes took much of my 64MB RAM.
[02:48] <XRayNuke> jtaylor: sorry, if there's a deeper solution, i haven't been using GRUB long enough to know it.   Change us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:48] <nalioth> sperm: ^^^^^
[02:48] <Madpilot> so what happened this morning, anyway? I left IRC running, and got back from work just now to find some huge flood had happened & then I'd been cut off...
[02:48] <DarkSpy> can't install kdelibs4-dev because it asks for kde 3.4.0 and I've got 3.4.1 version.. shouldn't there be a package for 3.4.1?
[02:49] <Harold> !sperm
[02:49] <ubotu> Harold: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[02:49] <Harold> ubotu, Some of the ladies believe so.
[02:49] <ubotu> Harold: Wish i knew
[02:49] <Harold> ubotu, Would you really?
[02:49] <ubotu> Harold: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[02:49] <frank> what ??? lol
[02:49] <hondje> lol
[02:49] <Madpilot> Harold: stop teasing the poor bot...
[02:49] <Madpilot> :)
[02:49] <Harold> Madpilot, That's a bot?
[02:50] <Harold> Madpilot, A clownbot
[02:50] <Madpilot> Harold: u-BOT-u.
[02:50] <hondje> no, it's a real person
[02:50] <hondje> he was injured in a tragic snowboarding accident
[02:50] <Harold> Madpilot, J/K, I know.  Didn't know that's how the name was formed, though.
[02:50] <Madpilot> is there some list of all of ubotu's ! commands somewhere?
[02:50] <hondje> now he sits on IRC and slams speed, staying awake 24/7 to answer questions
[02:50] <hajiki> !ati
[02:50] <ubotu> hmm... ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:50] <Harold> Madpilot, Good question.
[02:50] <Harold> !Madpilot
[02:50] <ubotu> Harold: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[02:51] <Madpilot> Harold: apparently entering names or nicks is one of the verboten things...
[02:51] <Harold> Madpilot, What is "verboten"?
[02:51] <nalioth> yes, verboten
[02:51] <nalioth> Harold: german for "not allowed"
[02:51] <Harold> !verboten
[02:51] <ubotu> Harold: No idea
[02:51] <hondje> forbidden :)
[02:51] <Madpilot> Harold: probably mis-spelled german...
[02:52] <frank> where can we see the ubotu commands?
[02:52] <hondje> all german is misspelled
[02:52] <gm78> Hey all. I just uninstalled proftpd but it says it is started from inetd, and the server is still running, how do i shut off the server, and if i leave it installed, how do i prevent it from loading at boot time
[02:52] <tanki> what's the german word for http://www.math.vt.edu/people/jbwillia/computer.gif
[02:52] <gm78> ?
[02:52] <hondje> that's why I can't read it
[02:52] <Harold> nalioth, Ah, I had a feeling it was "forbidden" or something.  (That's what it *sounds* like.)
[02:52] <Harold> hondje, LOL
[02:52] <Harold> hondje, And English is a Germanic language, did you know that?
[02:52] <hondje> Yes, I know the germans stole our fine language
[02:52] <hondje> :)
[02:53] <zoofields> it's all proto-IndoEuropean
[02:53] <flugh> gm78: try 'update-rc.d -f proftpd remove' at the command line to remove all startup links for proftpd
[02:54] <Harold> hondje, Actually, we derived it from the Germanic languages...*or some the Germans would have us believe*...:)
[02:54] <flugh> gm78: 'man update-rc.d' to see info on the command
[02:54] <hondje> I know better than to believe an obvious troll like that
[02:54] <Harold> hondje, Huh?
[02:54] <hondje> we made it, then the english took it, then the dutch, and then the germans
[02:54] <tanki> so what, everyone ripped off the greeks
[02:55] <hondje> yeah, poor greeks
[02:55] <hondje> they got a bum deal
[02:55] <Madpilot> fine language? English, to misquote someone else, doesn't borrow words from other languages. It chases them down alleyways and mugs them for words...
[02:55] <Harold> hondje, Who do you mean "we"?
[02:55] <nalioth> Harold: may i point you toward a software that will introduce you to software compiling
[02:55] <flugh> i knew a chic who was into that greek stuff
[02:55] <hondje> the royal we to mean americans
[02:55] <Harold> Madpilot, I understand English is one of the most difficult languages to learn.
[02:55] <Harold> nalioth, Trying to get rid of me, huh nalioth?
[02:55] <gm78> flugh, alright, thx...ill try that in a minute
[02:55] <hondje> like, the italians wouldn't even HAVE pasta if napoleon didn't take it from the greeks and give the secret recipe to them
[02:55] <Harold> nalioth, Absolutely
[02:56] <nalioth> Harold: not at all, just some simple lessons
[02:56] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth ,hi ^_^
[02:56] <Phinite> I'm configuring my wifi with wpa and everything looks great... but I'm not getting an ip.  what can I look at to see why... ie, is my key wrong, etc...
[02:56] <nalioth> Harold: and a BIG benefit to you
[02:56] <frank> hondje: ???  of course!
[02:56] <Phinite> just seeing that nothing is returning is useless
[02:56] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: howdy
[02:56] <hondje> :)
[02:56] <Harold> Anyone: Know how to properly configure dillo?  So I don't have to login as root in order to run it?
[02:56] <Harold> ChurcH_of_FoamY, Hello again
[02:56] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hi ^_^
[02:57] <Harold> nalioth, I'd *love* to learn some more.
[02:57] <ny3ranger> ok how do i log onto root in graphical mode
[02:57] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> kinda took a nap on the keyboard >.<
[02:57] <Quest-Master> Wow
[02:57] <tanki> ChurcH_of_FoamY, i did that once my screen filled up with zz's
[02:57] <ny3ranger> and i dont think i set up a password for it
[02:57] <Quest-Master> I could never possibly do that
[02:57] <ny3ranger> is there a default?
[02:57] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> lol ^_^
[02:57] <mbirkis> ny3ranger: you don't wanna do that...
[02:57] <Quest-Master> I can't sleep unless I'm in a sleeping/sitting position not doing anything lol
[02:57] <hondje> ny3ranger: that's not a good idea
[02:57] <ny3ranger> no i just installed it
[02:57] <tanki> Quest-Master, can you type with your eye's closed
[02:57] <mbirkis> ny3ranger: in ubuntu the root account is disabled by default
[02:58] <tanki> if you can, it's easy to fall asleep at the keyboard
[02:58] <Quest-Master> tanki: Sadly, yes
[02:58] <ny3ranger> how do i enable it
[02:58] <ny3ranger> cause i want to install software
[02:58] <ny3ranger> how do i install it if root is disablede
[02:58] <DekaPink> Is it okay to install Firefox 1.05 from the file at their site? :3
[02:58] <tanki> Quest-Master, :)
[02:58] <nalioth> ny3ranger: logging in as root to your graphical environment can cause some serious account access problems on your user accounts
[02:58] <Phinite> ny3ranger: juse use sudo
[02:58] <flugh> ny3ranger: use sudo
[02:58] <socomm> Hello, I typing this with my eyes closed.
[02:58] <tanki> haha
[02:58] <socomm> Doh!
[02:58] <shray> I demand remuneration
[02:58] <flugh> ny3ranger, when prompted for a password, type your password
[02:58] <shray> My ubuntu didn't make me happy
[02:58] <ny3ranger> what sudo?
[02:58] <flugh> ny3ranger, or, do a 'sudo -s' to get a root shell
[02:58] <tanki> socomm, http://www.math.vt.edu/people/jbwillia/computer.gif
[02:58] <ny3ranger> whats sudo?
[02:58] <hondje> !sudo
[02:58] <ubotu> from memory, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[02:58] <Phinite> socomm: we are typing back that way...  Ubuntu also means "I am what I am because of who we all are". The Ubuntu Linux distribution brings the spirit of Ubuntu to the software world.
[03:02] <shray> wtf GIMME!!
[03:02] <shray> I want that!
[03:03] <rainingzigzags> xraynuke, ty
[03:03] <shray> I AM THE SPIRIT OF UBUNTU
[03:03] <tanki> shray, come to #ubuntu-offtopic, i'll give you a link to a girl's butt
[03:03] <ubuntuguide> rocks!
[03:03] <phos> haha
[03:03] <Burgundavia> let keep it on topic here, ok?
[03:03] <tbite> hi. can anyone help me? i accidentally did something to the "system tray" in the top right corner of the screen, and now i cant see icons such as gaim on there any more, even though its still running if i close the contact list window cause i can hear noises coming from it.
[03:04] <tbite> no other icons show in the system tray any more either
[03:04] <tbite> all ive got now in the top right is just the date/time and the volume control
[03:04] <shray> hey wtf
[03:04] <shray> my penis is hard
[03:04] <tanki> hehe
[03:04] <wolki> tbite, right-click on the panel and add a notification area
[03:04] <tanki> shhh
[03:05] <socomm> Hmmm, anyone working on getting porn-get to work under Ubuntu?
[03:05] <tbite> yay, thanks wolki
[03:05] <hondje> socomm: I gave it a shot
[03:05] <wolki> socomm, isn't porn-get broken anyway?
[03:05] <hondje> its so dated it wasn't worth the work
[03:05] <Burgundavia> socomm, please take it elsewhere
[03:06] <socomm> Burgundavia: It was joke, get over yourself.
[03:06] <hondje> ChurcH_of_FoamY: what did you end up using for cad stuff?
[03:06] <shray> MY PENIS IS HARD!!
[03:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> qcad
[03:06] <Burgundavia> socomm, that didn't come through in irc, and some might not understand
[03:06] <rainingzigzags> i just downloaded unrealircd and it is a tar.gz file... how do i install those kind of files??? i am new to linux
[03:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> gross
[03:07] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> now i need to edit some adobie documents
[03:07] <socomm> Burgundavia: I dont care.
[03:07] <Burgundavia> socomm, please read the ubuntu code of conduct again
[03:07] <wolki> rainingzigzags, installing from a tar.gz can be a bit complicated
[03:07] <tanki> ChurcH_of_FoamY, are you really building a clock?
[03:08] <harris|u> Can someone point me to some reading on installing different GNOME themes?
[03:08] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yes it will be made completely outta wood when i'm done
[03:08] <wolki> rainingzigzags, usually these packages are the pure source code. where did you get the package?
[03:08] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it will be an all wood grandfather clock
[03:08] <tanki> nice, i suck at woodwork
[03:08] <Burgundavia> harris|u, just drag the theme to the theme installer
[03:08] <Burgundavia> harris|u, can be downloaded at art.gnome.org or gnome-looks.org
[03:08] <tanki> you have to have too much patience
[03:08] <rainingzigzags> wolki, from undrealircd.com
[03:08] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> even the movement, which will be wight driven will be of wood
[03:08] <socomm> Burgundavia: I get lost.
[03:08] <harris|u> Burgundavia: thanks
[03:08] <tanki> i usually get fustrated and set it on fire at some point
[03:09] <Burgundavia> socomm, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct
[03:09] <wolki> rainingzigzags, a moment please, i'll take a look at it
[03:09] <XRayNuke> hmm, there's a dancer-ircd in the package system
[03:09] <rainingzigzags> wolki, ok
[03:09] <XRayNuke> i only recommended unrealircd because we use it here
[03:10] <hondje> ChurcH_of_FoamY: they're not very easy :)
[03:10] <socomm> Burgundavia: Again, I dont care about this stuff. If someone lacks a sense of homour, thats their problem not mine.
[03:10] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hondje what the the program?
[03:10] <Burgundavia> socomm, if you cannot follow the ubuntu code of conduct, do not be in #ubuntu. It is that clear
[03:11] <hondje> ChurcH_of_FoamY: if you know fortran I can dig it up :)
[03:11] <malakhi> socomm: this is the official Ubuntu room. If you don't like the rules, leave.
[03:11] <socomm> Ban me if you like.
[03:11] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> socomm is it really nessisary for you to be such a bumbling idiot cause if so please go away
[03:11] <cafuego> socomm: Seems like that's what _you_ like.
[03:11] <hondje> isn't this 'with us or against us' attitude go against the humanity thing?
[03:11] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hondje no i never had used it before
[03:12] <cafuego> hondje: maybe after the revolution comes
[03:12] <socomm> ChurcH_of_FoamY: Nice spelling.
[03:12] <tanki> ChurcH_of_FoamY, those grandfather ones always freaked me out a little especially the ones where a wooden bird comes flying out at 12
[03:12] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> socomm and your point
[03:12] <wolki> rainingzigzags, ok, you'll have to compile it yourself. this is usually not difficult, but takes a little work since you'll have to install some developer packages
[03:12] <Madpilot> hondje: there's an exception for idiots, isn't there?
[03:12] <tanki> ChurcH_of_FoamY, i think because my grandma told me it was a real bird once, and i felt sorry that it had to live inside a clock
[03:12] <harris|u> Burgundavia: The Theme Manger says the .theme file I have downloaded is the wrong format. .theme is the extension, correct?
[03:12] <cafuego> socomm: if you want to be banned, just ask for it, don't troll for half an hour first.
[03:12] <hondje> I woudln't think so
[03:12] <rainingzigzags> wolki, can u pm me and walk me through it? i've never compiled anything before
[03:12] <comadreja> how do I change my keyboard's language ?
[03:13] <wolki> rainingzigzags, first open synaptic (you'll need it)
[03:13] <wolki> ok
[03:13] <qt2> anyone know much about samba?
[03:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> tanki yea i know this one won't have the little bird thats proprietary to black forest cuckoo clocks
[03:13] <socomm> cafuego: I am not trolling, all I did was make a joke.
[03:13] <hondje> "I am what I am because of who we all are"
[03:13] <tanki> ChurcH_of_FoamY, what does that mean, if you build one with a bird, you get sued?
[03:13] <socomm> If you cant take a simple joke its not my fault.
[03:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> tanki i just read ip lol thats awsome
[03:13] <hondje> So we should all take full blame for all this unkubaya feeling
[03:14] <qt2> i'm trying to set up a windows file and printer sharing style network with two ubuntu boxes.
[03:14] <tanki> haha make a star wars clock and sell it, then george lukeas will have some lawyers at your door the next day
[03:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> tanki no just taht if you make one it's a copy cat thing don't think theres legal isshues though
[03:14] <hondje> and then you'd get slashdotted
[03:14] <HrdwrBoB> ChurcH_of_FoamY: ,... no that's legal issues
[03:14] <Mr> will someone please help me
[03:14] <cafuego> Mr: with what?
[03:14] <socomm> Mr: Just ask.
[03:15] <Mr> i need to copy a file from my windows partition but it tells me i dont have permission
[03:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> HrdwrBoB well just in case i'm not putting a birdie in the clock anyways lol
[03:15] <nalioth> mr  are you watching me?
[03:15] <Mr> i tried to log in as rott ut i cant
[03:15] <nalioth> mr i can help you
[03:15] <Mr> root
[03:16] <tdmg> hey guys, I'm having problems getting use to using Linux/Ubuntu, is there anyone out there willing to work with a newbie? :D
[03:16] <Mr> please
[03:16] <cafuego> Mr: You can copy it using sudo, or you can mount the windows partition with the 'umask=000' option.
[03:16] <nalioth> mr watch nalioths_dog
[03:16] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it will be kinda spookie though i'm tinkering with an 18th century gothic theme that i saw once
[03:16] <nalioths_dog> Mr: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partitions mount automatically
[03:16] <cafuego> Mr: ie: sudo cp /mnt/windows/foo/bar/file.txt ~user/Desktop
[03:16] <nalioth> mr nalioths_dog has sent you some instructions above
[03:16] <Mr> cp is the terminal copy command?
[03:17] <nalioth> cafuego: let him use the script
[03:17] <cafuego> Mr: yes
[03:17] <Mr> ok
[03:17] <Roturgo> to log in as root, set a password first by running sudo passwd...then you can su to root with your new password
[03:17] <Mr> there is no way that i can log in as root?
[03:17] <rob^> !root
[03:17] <ubotu> methinks root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[03:17] <ubuntuguide> tdmg: what sort of problems?
[03:17] <Mr> in the gui
[03:17] <cafuego> Roturgo: No, it is far better to realise you don't need to log in as root at all.
[03:17] <Mr> ok
[03:17] <Roturgo> indeed, I never do, but he wanted to know how so I told him
[03:17] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it's my first project though so i have no idea how it will actually turn out....it's for my grandparents 80th annivirsary
[03:17] <nalioth> mr if you use the script nalioths_dog sent you, you won't need root
[03:17] <Burgundavia> Mr, read the wiki page, it explains a lot
[03:17] <Mr> thanl you all
[03:18] <XRayNuke> !msfonts
[03:18] <ubotu> XRayNuke: I give up, what is it?
[03:18] <rob^> !msttcorefonts
[03:18] <ubotu> rumour has it, msttcorefonts is apt-get install msttcorefonts - you'll need universe enabled in your /etc/apt/sources.list first.
[03:18] <nalioth> !msttcorefonts
[03:18] <cafuego> msttcorefonts
[03:18] <XRayNuke> thanks guys :)
[03:18] <nalioth> hybrid_goth: welcome back
[03:18] <hybrid_goth> nalioth: thanx
[03:18] <tdmg> ubuntuguide, I PMed you...........
[03:18] <Madpilot> ubotu msfonts is apt-get install msttcorefonts - you'll need universe enabled in your /etc/apt/sources.list first.
[03:18] <ubotu> okay, Madpilot
[03:18] <hybrid_goth> nalioth: long time man.
[03:18] <nalioth> hybrid_goth: how was your vacation?
[03:19] <Madpilot> there, now both versions work. msfonts is easier to remember!
[03:19] <Mr> I have a non ubuntu problem then:  I want to run CollegeLinux but the bootloder installs to hda which is my cdrom drive for some reason does anyone know a way t ochange this?
[03:19] <hybrid_goth> nalioth: i msged you
[03:20] <nalioth> hybrid_goth: are you registered?
[03:21] <cafuego> nalioth: he is not.
[03:21] <nalioth> hybrid_goth: i am wearing a shield, check your server window
[03:21] <nalioth> cafuego: thx
[03:21] <zenlunatic> there is this little verticle bar in the top panel of gnome. does anyone know what it is or how to get rid of it?
[03:22] <hybrid_goth> nalioth: i need to register
[03:22] <hondje> zenlunatic: right click on it?
[03:22] <Burgundavia> zenlunatic, by the sound?
[03:22] <cafuego> nalioth: freenode + irssi can make regietered/unregister users hilight different.
[03:22] <cafuego> ly
[03:22] <flodine> anyone running E17
[03:22] <nalioth> cafuego: hows that?
[03:22] <zenlunatic> oh nm i removed it. i think it was a seperator.
[03:22] <hybrid_goth> nalioth: ill brb
[03:22] <XRayNuke> zenlunatic: I think that marks the edge of the GNOME system tray
[03:22] <qt2> ugh, could someone point me to a good ubuntu file and printer sharing guide?
[03:22] <comadreja> how do I change my keyboard's language in gnome ?
[03:22] <rob^> !samba
[03:23] <ubotu> well, samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba
[03:23] <Burgundavia> zenlunatic, there is the notification area (sys tray to others)
[03:23] <rob^> gt2 what ubotu said
[03:23] <nalioth> cafuego: can you point me to a URL on how to enable "registerd vs feral"?
[03:23] <rob^> qt2 what ubotu said
[03:23] <cafuego> nalioth: freenode can send an extra char with registered users, which an irssi script can reinterpret as colour. I see registered users as green, unregistered as red.
[03:23] <Burgundavia> zenlunatic, it is marked by a vertical bar made up of horizontal lines
[03:23] <cafuego> nalioth: Sure, just a moment.
[03:23] <zenlunatic> Burgundavia: yes
[03:23] <qt2> ubotu, rob^, thanks... :)
[03:23] <ubotu> qt2: No idea
[03:24] <Madpilot> nalioth: msg NickServ
[03:24] <Ensiferum> hello. doesn anyone know why emacs is not obeying .emacs settings. as if something was overriding those settings?
[03:24] <Ensiferum> driving me insane
[03:24] <Madpilot> nalioth: then ask for help
[03:24] <cafuego> nalioth: /QUOTE capab identify-msg
[03:25] <cafuego> nalioth: I use a script called 'format_identify.pl' to handle the colouring.
[03:25] <hybrid_goth> nalioth: did you get my msg now?
[03:26] <cafuego> nalioth: http://web.archive.org/web/20040604065734/http://svn.ben.reser.org/format_identify/releases/current/format_identify.pl
[03:27] <cafuego> Can Xorg use OTF fonts?
[03:28] <qt2> how strange.... apparently there's supposed to be more settings than there are... >.>
[03:28] <nalioth> cafuego: thx
[03:29] <zenlunatic> how do i get more package selection without using ubuntu guide?
[03:29] <nalioth> cafuego: is that extra character a "+" before each sentence?
[03:29] <cafuego> nalioth: Yep.
[03:30] <cafuego> nalioth: Via the script (url I pasted) you can reformat that with colour codes.
[03:30] <kUser> theres any way to change in ubuntu the aspect of qt aplications as Konversation, to select a littler font for example?
[03:31] <cafuego> I have /set format_identified_nick "%G$0" and /set format_unidentified_nick "%R$0"
[03:31] <IIIEars> Hello "Ubuntu"ans
[03:32] <Madpilot> hi IIIEars
[03:32] <IIIEars> Hi Madpilot! :)
[03:33] <Sheng> hello.
[03:34] <Sheng> i'm going to install ubuntu on my 15gb free partition
[03:34] <Sheng> does anyone konw how ot set the boot installer so that windows automatically loads XP, unless you choose linux?
[03:34] <Jet2k5> hey guys would installing 32-bit on 64-bit processor a good thing?
[03:34] <IIIEars> found a nice app in GNU Backgammon. - worth a try if you play.
[03:34] <Madpilot> !sources
[03:34] <ubotu> well, sources is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[03:34] <Madpilot> zenlunatic: check what ubotu just said
[03:34] <Sheng> is this made in africa?
[03:36] <IIIEars> !ubuntu
[03:36] <ubotu> it has been said that ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'.
[03:36] <cafuego> Sheng: nah
[03:36] <rics> hello
[03:36] <Discipulus> !ubuntuguide
[03:36] <ubotu> methinks ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 3 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.
[03:36] <nalioth> cafuego: was that script meant for any version of irssi?
[03:36] <rics> I need help configuring GRUB
[03:36] <tiglionabbit> !newusers
[03:36] <ubotu> [newusers]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers
[03:36] <Discipulus> can someone add that to the topic?
[03:36] <rics> How can I change the default system to boot in GRUB?
[03:37] <cafuego> nalioth: I'm running 0.8.6+cvs.20031114-1 (irssi-snapshot on sarge)
[03:37] <IIIEars> cafuego - Your bot is an info gold mine. - grin
[03:37] <tiglionabbit> rics: yes you can.  Find the line that tarts with "Default" in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:37] <tiglionabbit> *starts
[03:37] <nalioth> cafuego: hmmm when i loaded it, it threw an error at line 49 (which is commented out)
[03:37] <tiglionabbit> doh, I always read the questions as "can I" instead of "how can I"
[03:37] <nalioth> cafuego: and it didnt load
[03:38] <cafuego> nalioth: Peculiar, let me download it
[03:39] <someluser> Can anyone help me troubleshoot my nvidia card?
[03:40] <cafuego> nalioth: That version is identical to mine, which loads OK. What irssi version are you running?
[03:41] <stan-am> hello everyone
[03:41] <Sheng> i'm going to dual boot ubuntu and xp on my system
[03:41] <Sheng> is there anything i need to know about this prior to installation?
[03:41] <HrdwrBoB> install XP first
[03:41] <Sheng> it is
[03:41] <abarbaccia> hey guys - i'm having a lot of trouble installing transcode and a few other libraries - anybody know what to do (libc6 depency problems)
[03:41] <stan-am> can anyone give me a hand installing Suns bin installer ????
[03:41] <jsgotangco> and backup your data
[03:41] <Sheng> and i want a simple boot chooser
[03:41] <cafuego> Sheng: Nope, it's pretty much automagical provided you install XP first.
[03:41] <Sheng> text only
[03:41] <HrdwrBoB> Sheng: ubuntu will provide boot menu automatially
[03:42] <Sheng> and i want it to go into xp automatically
[03:42] <rics> tiglionabbit, after I made the changes I need to run anything?
[03:42] <Sheng> because my mom gets confused using it
[03:42] <cafuego> Sheng: And changing the default on the boot menu is trivial.
[03:42] <Sheng> ok
[03:42] <Sheng> thanks
[03:42] <abarbaccia> Sheng, editing one line of one file will do it
[03:42] <Sheng> also, is there a way to get my wifi card to work automatically
[03:42] <cafuego> Sheng: You can either move the windows ebtry to the top or set it to boot entry 3 by default.
[03:42] <tiglionabbit> rics: you could run "update-grub" to check the file for problems
[03:42] <XRayNuke> Sheng: depends on your WiFi card obviously
[03:42] <stan-am>  can anyone give me a hand installing Suns bin installer ????
[03:42] <Sheng> it says to compile it
[03:42] <Sheng> i have the driver
[03:42] <adme> i hosed my system a bit and accidentally removed xbase-clients - now thru apt-get it says it has unmet depends...
[03:42] <Sheng> rt2500
[03:42] <IIIEars> Sheng - know a little about vi text editor if your grub  menu.lst shuld need adjustment
[03:43] <Sheng> but it gives you instructions to compile it and that's hard
[03:43] <adme> yet those depends are not found
[03:43] <stan-am>  can anyone give me a hand installing Suns bin installer ????
[03:43] <cafuego> !info rt2500
[03:43] <Nasky> hi i'm french and i'm using Ubuntu for 2 days. But i have a little "problem" with Fluxbox. Should I use this channel ?
[03:43] <adme> xhost, xrandr, xsetpointer, etc
[03:43] <hondje> Nasky: as long as you speak english, this is the place
[03:43] <cafuego> !find rt2500
[03:43] <Nasky> thx :)
[03:43] <frank> Nasky: If you help in french there is #ubuntu-fr
[03:44] <Nasky> frank, ye i know but i wanna improve my english :p
[03:44] <Sheng> RT2500STA-Linux-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.gz
[03:44] <Sheng> this is the file i have
[03:44] <cafuego> Sheng: I'm looking for a prepackaged one.
[03:44] <Sheng> ok, thank you
[03:44] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'rt2500' returned no results.
[03:45] <tanki> does cafuego mean coffee on fire
[03:45] <Howitzer> Is there a way to completely shutdown X?
[03:45] <Fughidabowit> hello everyone - i have a quick install question
[03:45] <tfort> ctrl-alt-backspace
[03:45] <zenlunatic> Madpilot, why are those sources enabled by default?
[03:45] <Howitzer> tfort, no
[03:46] <rainingzigzags> has anyone had experense running unrealircd?
[03:46] <johnnybezak> if i view my site from the local machine (where the webserver is) then it shows up fine, but if I view my site from any other machine the css doesnt work. Can you guys think why this would be? Because a page of unformatted text isnt that nice :P
[03:46] <Howitzer> ctrl-alt-bckspace shuts down and restarts
[03:46] <tfort> Howitzer, you just want everything in terminal mode?
[03:46] <Howitzer> yes
[03:46] <Sheng> ok
[03:46] <Fughidabowit> ive got the 5.04 distro - burned it to a cd and popped it in on restart..the Ubuntu window pops up (allowing me to start the installer) but when i hit Enter the screen just goes black and stay like that
[03:46] <tfort> Howitzer, really? that's lame, i just installed ubuntu from gentoo yesterday
[03:46] <rics> thanks tiglionabbit!
[03:46] <Howitzer> there must be a way though
[03:46] <zenlunatic> Is there an option to not use non-free software on ubuntu like there is on Debian?
[03:46] <Howitzer> i need as much resources i need
[03:46] <abarbaccia> Fughidabowit, hit F2 and run it with a fb mode
[03:46] <Sheng> brb
[03:47] <Howitzer> 128MB RAM sucks :(
[03:47] <Sheng> if you find the package, please pm it to me
[03:47] <abarbaccia> Fughidabowit, i think its like fb(resolution number)
[03:47] <tfort> Howitzer, switch to openbox, you will lose less than 1% to the WM
[03:47] <Nasky> actually, it's not really a problem. I installed Eterm and Aterm. They have automatically been added to fluxbox menu. But when I edit .fluxbox/menu, I can't see Eterm and Aterm. It's weird, ain't it ?
[03:47] <Howitzer> openbox?
[03:47] <tfort> yea
[03:47] <Howitzer> like fluxbox, etc?
[03:47] <adme> or fluxbox
[03:47] <tfort> well
[03:47] <tfort> fluxox is horribly  buggy
[03:47] <Howitzer> indeed
[03:47] <tfort> and very unstable, at least with everything i used it for
[03:47] <Howitzer> i lways get NULL menu' :(
[03:47] <tfort> openbox is very minimum
[03:48] <tfort> you could also use.. um.. i forgot what it was called but i think its GVM?
[03:48] <tfort> or something to that nature, but setting it up is a headache in itself
[03:48] <Howitzer> fwvm?
[03:48] <tfort> however, openbox is rather nice
[03:48] <tfort> yea, that'ws that iw as thinking of
[03:48] <IIIEars> How much less resource hungry s xfce4?
[03:48] <tiglionabbit> Howitzer: it should just kill X and start it again, withouch doing a hardware restart
[03:48] <tiglionabbit> *without
[03:48] <Fughidabowit> anyone have any ideas whats going on?
[03:48] <tfort> IIIEars, xfce4 is more than openbox, but far less than gnome or kde
[03:48] <Howitzer> tiglionabbit, that's what i ment
[03:49] <Howitzer> Need to get 197kB of archives.
[03:49] <Howitzer> After unpacking 938kB of additional disk space will be used.
[03:49] <tfort> right now i'm on gnome just becaus ei installed last night
[03:49] <Howitzer> rofl
[03:49] <adme> anyone know how I could reinstall xbase-clients... ?
[03:49] <Howitzer> openbox is less then 1 meg :')
[03:49] <tfort> and i'm trying to figure out ubuntu right now
[03:49] <tfort> it's weird going from gentoo to ubuntu
[03:49] <Howitzer> adme, sudo apt-get --reinstall install .........
[03:49] <Howitzer> heh
[03:49] <stan-am> im trying to install Suns bin installer, can anyone give me a hand with this?
[03:49] <Howitzer> is gentoo nice?
[03:50] <IIIEars> tfort - gnome is nice. reasonably light on ram and nearly infinitly customisable.
[03:50] <Howitzer> i'd like to try it
[03:50] <adme> but it is meeting with unmet dependencies...
[03:50] <teferi> adme: if you're asking about breezy, the dependencies aren't in yet
[03:50] <stan-am> im trying to install Suns bin installer, can anyone give me a hand with this?
[03:50] <teferi> don't worry about it
[03:50] <teferi> just wait
[03:50] <ermac`> Howitzer gentoo is for freaks really hard ;)
[03:50] <Howitzer> heh
[03:50] <tfort> Howitzer, i liked it, but if you screw up something, like i did the other day, i found it really hard to fix everything
[03:50] <tfort> ermac`, it was my first linux system
[03:50] <adme> teferi: hmm, that must be it - how could I go back to the old?
[03:50] <Howitzer> rofl
[03:50] <tfort> i'm still running my server on gentoo
[03:50] <Fughidabowit> abra: not exactly sure what to do - when i hit f2 it starts the insatller
[03:50] <teferi> adme: poke around in pool/ on the server, hope it's still there?
[03:50] <tfort> i like the "custom compiling" idea of it, where it will compile every source
[03:50] <malakhi> Howitzer, if you want to learn how the deep-down guts of linux work, then Gentoo is a great way to do it.
[03:50] <Howitzer> i screwed up my ubuntu/debian pure/slackware installs 9 times this WEEK
[03:51] <teferi> malakhi: bullshit
[03:51] <minxor> Hello
[03:51] <Howitzer> ehh
[03:51] <Fughidabowit> well brings me to a different screen - but doesnt really give me any further options
[03:51] <malakhi> But if you want to actually USE your computer, then go with something else.
[03:51] <teferi> malakhi: just because you type "emerge foo" instead of "apt-get install foo" does not mean you learn more about how shit works
[03:51] <tfort> malakhi, that's not true
[03:51] <Howitzer> Linux From Scratch? :D
[03:51] <IIIEars> ermac - yep, install it tweak it for hours then click on a single malicious URL and PFFFT!. it's all gone if you haven't made a disk image.
[03:51] <tfort> malakhi, gentoo isn't very hard, unless you're building the kernel yourself
[03:51] <tfort> a stage 1 i eblieve install
[03:51] <tfort> you cand o a stage 3 install and it be relatively easy
[03:51] <Howitzer> but what is that?
[03:51] <adme> even then they give a very detailed handbook
[03:51] <teferi> even a stage1 isn't hard
[03:51] <malakhi> teferi, I'm not talking about just compiling from source. I'm talking about the manual configuration and stuff.
[03:51] <Howitzer> 'building the kernel'
[03:52] <teferi> it's just emerge this, emerge that
[03:52] <IIIEars> gentoo is heartbreaking
[03:52] <Howitzer> i mean
[03:52] <tfort> teferi, i know, i thought it was easy, but for people staying its hard, stage 3 is really simple
[03:52] <Howitzer> if you mess with the kernel
[03:52] <Howitzer> c'mon
[03:52] <minxor> I want gedit to open my .rb files with the correct syntax highlighting. Unfortunately nautilus sees them as text/plain rather than text/x-ruby, so gedit doesn't apply highlighting - how can I fix this?
[03:52] <tfort> kernel is really easy to play with
[03:52] <Razor-X> we're all still at it so many hours later ;)
[03:52] <malakhi> tfort, I know I'm exagerating, and I use and love Gentoo, but it's not for the faint of heart.
[03:52] <Razor-X> i'm back from a 9 hour day at school ;)
[03:52] <tfort> malakhi, yea, i agree, that's why i want my desktop to be ubuntu and just my server be gentoo
[03:52] <ed1t> nalioth, hey
[03:52] <Howitzer> EEK
[03:53] <Howitzer> school?
[03:53] <malakhi> tfort, that's what i do
[03:53] <Razor-X> malakhi: but it's still fscking awesome ;)
[03:53] <tfort> anyway, anyone have the issue of the bongos continually playing on your system?
[03:53] <Howitzer> hmmm
[03:53] <Razor-X> Howitzer: I like school (at least the math part)
[03:53] <malakhi> Razor-X, oh, definitely
[03:53] <Howitzer> i might try it
[03:53] <tfort> i just installed, and i can't get them to stop playing these frigin bongos
[03:53] <Howitzer> i like school aswell
[03:53] <Razor-X> when the teachers understand I actually understand that I know more than "OMG, logs of negative numbers aren't real!!!"
[03:53] <Howitzer> but just standing up in the morning is soooooooo sucky :(
[03:53] <teferi> of course they're not real
[03:53] <Howitzer> heh
[03:54] <Howitzer> i hate it
[03:54] <teferi> and anyway, which branch of log do you mean?
[03:54] <Razor-X> s/<\I actually understand>\//
[03:54] <mouse_> has anyone tried cups-pdf and got it to work?
[03:54] <Madpilot> tfort: ubuntu/gnome use a 'bongo' noise for some notifications, if that's what you mean
[03:54] <frank> principal barch!
[03:54] <frank> branch!
[03:54] <Razor-X> teferi: Euler's Identity
[03:54] <Howitzer> when you can conversate with the teachers you're a suckup -_-
[03:54] <Razor-X> Euler's joke
[03:54] <Howitzer> i hte that
[03:54] <IIIEars> tfort - most marathon without reboot servers are BSD. - FreeBSD isn't as easy as ubuntu but it isn't that difficult. dragonflybsd was okay
[03:54] <Howitzer> i mean
[03:54] <tfort> Madpilot, no it's continual, like it won't stop playing, im thinking it's alsa hanging up
[03:54] <HrdwrBoB> Howitzer: when you conversate with the teachers they ask why you didn't say converse :)
[03:54] <Razor-X> Howitzer: I converse with teachers a lot
[03:54] <Razor-X> HrdwrBoB: XD
[03:54] <Howitzer> wtf? Oo
[03:55] <Madpilot> tfort: fun. sound is odd.
[03:55] <Razor-X> errr, not Euler's joke, wtf
[03:55] <Howitzer> (i'm 15 and not native English)
[03:55] <Razor-X> s/joke/formula
[03:55] <Razor-X> Howitzer: i'm 15
[03:55] <Razor-X> don't bleat your age when you're at a loss
[03:55] <tfort> IIIEars, slackware is the ultimate nerd tool
[03:55] <Howitzer> ehh
[03:55] <Howitzer> i get 1 hour english at school -_-
[03:55] <HrdwrBoB> Howitzer: now you know that conversate isn't a real word, we're all learning :)
[03:55] <Razor-X> slackware is also awesome
[03:55] <HrdwrBoB> Howitzer: though your english is otherwise quite good
[03:55] <IIIEars> slackware it is linux ;)
[03:56] <Howitzer> OOH
[03:56] <Razor-X> i'm not native English, but I learn English as my primary language, so on that I can't say anything
[03:56] <Howitzer> NNScript :'(
[03:56] <tfort> Razor-X, that's too much work for me, i can customize freebsd and gnetoo to do wahtever i want, i dont need slackware enough
[03:56] <Razor-X> not sure what NNScript is *shrugs(
[03:56] <Razor-X> s/\(/*/
[03:56] <tfort> damnit
[03:56] <Razor-X> tfort: hehe
[03:56] <Howitzer> could someone explain me what the hell ****bsd is?
[03:56] <tfort> why won't my sound work at all
[03:56] <Razor-X> Howitzer: Berkely Standard Distribution
[03:57] <Howitzer> but is it like linux?
[03:57] <Razor-X> it's an alternate deviation of UNIX that as different file syntax, and has a different overall kernel than Linux
[03:57] <tfort> its unix
[03:57] <Razor-X> tfort: it aint linux
[03:57] <tfort> i know, it's just like unix though
[03:57] <Razor-X> s/linux/UNIX/
[03:57] <Howitzer> but you can use gnome on it?
[03:57] <Howitzer> oh man
[03:57] <tfort> Howitzer, um... i never used a WM on bsd
[03:57] <Razor-X> Howitzer: trust me, if you use X primarily still, BSD is not for you ;0
[03:57] <tfort> only terminal
[03:57] <Howitzer> my throat hurts :(
[03:57] <Razor-X> s/;0/;)/
[03:58] <Howitzer> wtf
[03:58] <Fughidabowit> so can someone give me some pointers on how to start this installer - im having major issues getting it started
[03:58] <Razor-X> still, I hate how BSD defaults to tcsh
[03:58] <Howitzer> sorry but, what are you going to do these days with an all-term pc?
[03:58] <Razor-X> Howitzer: a lot a lot
[03:58] <adme> teferi: would I be able to possibly use the xbase-clients package from hoary?
[03:58] <Howitzer> (except as a server)
[03:58] <Razor-X> I'm using X, but the majority of everything I do is in a terminal emulator
[03:58] <Fughidabowit> ive setup ubuntu before...just cant recall the exact setup parms to use
[03:58] <IIIEars> as far as home based servers go the more unlikely the OS the better. - hackers will just move along to an easier target they have the tools for.
[03:58] <malakhi> Howitzer, yes you can use gnome on it.
[03:58] <hybrid_goth> hey everyone
[03:59] <Howitzer> oh crap
[03:59] <ep> I've been trying to upgrade to libcurl3 (>=7.13).  Debian stable has 7.14  Ubuntu is 7.12 for some reason.
[03:59] <Howitzer> it's 4AM
[03:59] <hybrid_goth> i just got back from a month and a half without internet
[03:59] <Razor-X> listen to MP3s, occasionally browse the web, write text files, word process, everything
[03:59] <teferi> adme: don't know how well that would work, dependency wise
[03:59] <Razor-X> ep: well, try backports if not just wait... or compile your own
[03:59] <Howitzer> hybrid_goth, i feel sorry for you :(
[03:59] <Madpilot> at work we're starting to use BSD with KDE on top - cheaper than WinXP...
[03:59] <hybrid_goth> and did they change the breezy repos
[03:59] <hybrid_goth> Howitzer: me too :P
[03:59] <Razor-X> hybrid_goth: ewwwwwwww!!!!
[03:59] <hybrid_goth> Razor-X: hey man!!! long time
[03:59] <Razor-X> hybrid_goth: yeah, I know ;)
[03:59] <adme> razor-x: what is the entry for the backports?
[03:59] <IIIEars> << playing with CD based servers - hacked? just reboot.
[03:59] <Howitzer> you know what sucks about internet in Belgium?
[03:59] <Razor-X> I came back from 9 hours of no internet, heh
[03:59] <frank> Madpilot: why not linux + kde?
[04:00] <hybrid_goth> Razor-X: heh. my dad is ghetto
[04:00] <Razor-X> adme: lemme check, hold on
[04:00] <adme> razor-x: thanks
[04:00] <FoamY_is_PagaN> why does intell and microsoft hold all the search links for an email station service provider?
[04:00] <Razor-X> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[04:00] <Razor-X> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[04:00] <Razor-X> there you are
[04:00] <ep> Razor-X, how about dpkg -i libcurl3.deb   Is that a bad idea?
[04:01] <Howitzer> we pay ?40(+- $55) a month for 10gb/month bandwith with crappy dsl lines that get  max oif 80kb/s
[04:01] <adme> thanks
[04:01] <Razor-X> ep: it may depend on Debian-only packages
[04:01] <tanki> sup raz, howit
[04:01] <Razor-X> not much harm possible, though
[04:01] <hybrid_goth> Razor-X: my i msg you?
[04:01] <ep> ah
[04:01] <Razor-X> Howitzer: ewww!
[04:01] <Razor-X> hybrid_goth: go ahead
[04:01] <Razor-X> hey tanki
[04:01] <Howitzer> hiya tanki
[04:01] <Howitzer> hey ehh
[04:01] <tanki> you comming to the offtopic chan?
[04:01] <Howitzer> me?
[04:01] <Razor-X> ahh, yeah ;)
[04:02] <tanki> yeah be there or be square
[04:02] <Razor-X> you vi buffs should try Conkeror
[04:02] <ed1t> nalioth, u there?
[04:02] <Madpilot> frank: I know we use BSD on many servers, and our comp guys know BSD backwards
[04:02] <ep> from the command line, how can double check backports in in my sources?
[04:02] <Razor-X> it's emacs controls based, but you can use vi keys too
[04:03] <Sheng> ok
[04:03] <Sheng> anyone find the rt2500 package?
[04:03] <Sheng> does ubuntu update automatically?
[04:03] <Howitzer> Sheng, no
[04:03] <ed1t> Sheng, type sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:03] <Sheng> i thought it did
[04:03] <Howitzer> just do apt-get upgrade
[04:03] <Sheng> from a menu
[04:03] <ed1t> to upgrad all ur packages
[04:03] <Howitzer> ah
[04:03] <Howitzer> Synaptic?
[04:04] <Sheng> from console, type apt-get upgrade?
[04:04] <Howitzer> yes
[04:04] <Sheng> but i mean the core linux
[04:04] <Howitzer> oh
[04:04] <Howitzer> that i don't know about
[04:04] <Howitzer> i guess not
[04:04] <Howitzer> but i"ll think you know when a new kernel comes out
[04:05] <FoamY_is_PagaN> wow either my story telling skills bite a$$ or none has a sence of humor >.<
[04:05] <Howitzer> *sense
[04:05] <Howitzer> :D
[04:05] <HrdwrBoB> frank: the former
[04:05] <Howitzer> ehh
[04:05] <HrdwrBoB> er
[04:05] <Howitzer> tell the story to me
[04:05] <HrdwrBoB> FoamY_is_PagaN:
[04:05] <Howitzer> i'm bored :(
[04:05] <HrdwrBoB> Howitzer: he said it earlier
[04:05] <FoamY_is_PagaN> lol
[04:05] <HrdwrBoB> I imagine
[04:05] <HrdwrBoB> in that made up story
[04:06] <Howitzer> i wonder how lang it would take if i did sudo rm /
[04:06] <Howitzer> :D
[04:06] <FoamY_is_PagaN> HrdwrBoB dude you have to check out this wooden clock i'm gonna build i'll be done with the plans in a few days to a week ^_^
[04:06] <HrdwrBoB> wtf does a wooden clock have to do with ubuntu
[04:06] <Howitzer> they both rule
[04:07] <Howitzer> :s
[04:07] <Howitzer> eek
[04:07] <FoamY_is_PagaN> um besides look like the logo? nothing
[04:07] <Howitzer> rofl
[04:07] <Howitzer> you're mking a wooden clock that resembles the Ubuntu logo?
[04:07] <FoamY_is_PagaN> ^_^
[04:07] <Howitzer> Oo
[04:07] <FoamY_is_PagaN> it's m y second project i'm desighning
[04:07] <Howitzer> and my parents call me  a freak :x
[04:08] <FoamY_is_PagaN> no it's for a "attention" getter for an ubuntu gettoghether that i'm hosting to spread the word of ubuntu
[04:08] <Howitzer> ooh
[04:08] <FoamY_is_PagaN> and to teach people some fundementals of the os
[04:08] <Howitzer> cool
[04:08] <Howitzer> make me one too
[04:08] <Howitzer> would hang lovely in my room
[04:09] <FoamY_is_PagaN> hang? no not quite
[04:09] <Howitzer> oh god
[04:09] <FoamY_is_PagaN> imagen the case of a grandfather clock made outta wood....the gears pinions everything
[04:09] <Howitzer> don't tell me it's one of those huge 2meter tall clock
[04:09] <Howitzer> :/
[04:09] <FoamY_is_PagaN> no
[04:09] <Howitzer> ooh
[04:09] <FoamY_is_PagaN> 6ft tall 3 foot wide
[04:10] <ep> you did say "attention getter"
[04:10] <FoamY_is_PagaN> you know a hand made from scratch all wood grandfather clock although it will have lead weights to make it run
[04:10] <zenlunatic> do ubuntu repositories contain non-free software?
[04:10] <Howitzer> damn
[04:10] <FoamY_is_PagaN> yea i said that but i diden't mean desperate attention getter......lol
[04:11] <Howitzer> i don't know if Ubuntu is on hda or hdb :/
[04:11] <FoamY_is_PagaN> should be on hdb i would think
[04:11] <Howitzer> Oo
[04:11] <abarbaccia> Howitzer, open up fstab and see where / is mounted
[04:11] <Howitzer> how would you know?:x
[04:11] <abarbaccia> cat /etc/fstab
[04:11] <FoamY_is_PagaN> and has for building a all wood clock um they go for about 12,ooo dollars us
[04:12] <FoamY_is_PagaN> which is why i'm building my own lol
[04:12] <flugh> Howitzer, do a 'mount', look for /
[04:12] <Howitzer> what was that search command agin?
[04:12] <FoamY_is_PagaN> i ant got that kinda cash....but i can work with wood lol
[04:12] <ep> I asked this earlier but forgot to save the answer.  Is there a way to check what packages are availabe on the extra repositories without actually adding em.
[04:12] <Howitzer> ah
[04:12] <Howitzer> hdb1
[04:12] <Howitzer> is there a tool made for formatting drives?
[04:13] <goldfish> yes!
[04:13] <goldfish> fdisk, cfdisk
[04:13] <Howitzer> not making a partition or anything
[04:13] <goldfish> oh right.
[04:13] <aarcane> mke2fs
[04:13] <goldfish> yeah.
[04:13] <Howitzer> okay
[04:13] <aarcane> mkfs.reiserfs
[04:13] <Madpilot> Howitzer: gparted, if you want a GUI
[04:13] <goldfish> mkfs.vfat :)
[04:13] <FoamY_is_PagaN> ok on my system hdb1 is on the secondary ide ribbon as the slave to the cdrom is that wrong?
[04:13] <aarcane> mkfs.ntfs >,.,<
[04:14] <Howitzer> i am and always will be a gui junkie :x
[04:14] <aarcane> FoamY_is_PagaN, tat is wrong
[04:14] <fiberoptix> Hey everyone.. I just donwloaded the DVD iso and when I try to burn the image k3b returns error ubuntru.*.*.* is not a valid iso 9660 file...
[04:14] <aarcane> FoamY_is_PagaN, hdb is the primary slave
[04:14] <Sheng> so, how do you install apps on ubuntu?
[04:14] <fiberoptix> Bad download? or did I Miss something
[04:14] <FoamY_is_PagaN> aarcane so thats why my stupid computer was goofin up and still is
[04:14] <wolki> ep: you can use a browser
[04:15] <Howitzer> fiberoptix, did you match the MD5 sum?
[04:15] <FoamY_is_PagaN> cuase hdb1 on my computer is my strage drive >.<
[04:15] <Sheng> does fireforx come with ubuntu?
[04:15] <fiberoptix> Howitzer: the md5 did pass
[04:15] <aarcane> FoamY_is_PagaN, probably, yeah..  it can be a bit much to get useded to :)
[04:15] <kbrooks> Sheng, yes
[04:15] <fiberoptix> Howitzer: according to k3b anyway
[04:15] <Sheng> goo
[04:15] <Sheng> good
[04:15] <aarcane> Sheng, Yes, I installed ubuntu, and had forx of fire already working :)
[04:15] <Howitzer> okay
[04:15] <Sheng> can youdl the pacakge and double click to install newer ones?
[04:15] <wolki> ep, just go to that location in firefox/other browser and you can browse it manually
[04:15] <FoamY_is_PagaN> yea but you know what i have been using ubuntu for almost 4 monthes now
[04:16] <ep> I'll give it a shot, thanks
[04:16] <FoamY_is_PagaN> and haven't even thought to use windows once
[04:16] <harris||> Can someone tell me how or point me to information on installing ATI video drivers?
[04:16] <Howitzer> i want to re-install windows to be honest
[04:16] <FoamY_is_PagaN> and to me if a program can do that then it awsome ^_^
[04:16] <wolki> harris||, i think there's a howto on the forums
[04:16] <Howitzer> but as a dualboot
[04:16] <harris||> ok
[04:16] <HrdwrBoB> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:16] <HrdwrBoB> ^ there
[04:16] <Madpilot> Sheng: don't do that. someone borked their system badly last night w/ the FF installer
[04:16] <aarcane> FoamY_is_PagaN, drives in Linux are a bit much to get used to..  I spend all my time on my girlfriend's lappy in linux in Ubuntu...  when she gets me my own, I'ma put Gentoo on it though..  Ubuntu is good for my girlfriend, but it's not really my fortee
[04:16] <Sheng> why?
[04:17] <Sheng> it should work
[04:17] <aarcane> Sheng, it's for lfs
[04:17] <FoamY_is_PagaN> aarcane have you tryed kubuntu?
[04:17] <Sheng> ?
[04:17] <Madpilot> Sheng: not sure, but they couldn't get to the internet at all. except for IRC...
[04:17] <FoamY_is_PagaN> it's more complex in menu's and stuff
[04:17] <signbarn> My CD R/W and DVD R/W drives haven't been mounting correctly on startup recently -- and i'm not sure why. They don't detect the CDs/DVDs i put into them, and they give me error messages when i try to browse them by double-clicking them in my Computer folder. The strange thing is that I can still play CDs from the CD player, etc.
[04:17] <aarcane> FoamY_is_PagaN, if that's just installing KDE from the ubuntu database, then that's what I am using right now
[04:17] <Sheng> they're probalby stupid
[04:17] <FoamY_is_PagaN> aarcane >.< ouch
[04:18] <knubee> ?
[04:18] <Howitzer> hmm
[04:18] <aarcane> FoamY_is_PagaN, well..  it's not bad at all, I'm not hating it..  but I did have to install 50% extra ram to make it work at a reasonable speed
[04:18] <wolki> aarcane, no kubuntu is ubuntu with installing kubuntu-desktop. but it's quite similar :)
[04:18] <Sheng> i tried to get slax on my usb drive, but it didn't work
[04:18] <signbarn> -- and they only show up as drive icons, not disc icons.
[04:18] <FoamY_is_PagaN> O_O
[04:19] <frank> wolki: or just installing the kubuntu cd
[04:19] <Howitzer> If i want to make a partition for backup-use of Ubuntu, how big should it be?
[04:19] <Sheng> who makes ubuntu?
[04:19] <FoamY_is_PagaN> i have a celeron 1.0ghz and 256mb pc133 it works peachy for me O_o
[04:19] <aarcane> wolki, as long as kubuntu isn't a completely different install medium, then yeah, I guess I have kubuntu
[04:19] <FoamY_is_PagaN> i do use kubuntu but i ripped all the weard kde crap out
[04:19] <aarcane> FoamY_is_PagaN, I feel for you my brother
[04:19] <Howitzer> lol
[04:20] <wolki> aarcane, there is a different install medium (then you dont get the gnome stuff). but in the end they're the same
[04:20] <Howitzer> i installed kubuntu_desktop once, but i thought it was all too messy
[04:20] <coolkev> how do i mount hda2 (ext3) to folder /mnt/d/ >
[04:20] <FoamY_is_PagaN> kate is a little to complex for me and kynaptic dosen't give me the app definitions i like
[04:20] <FoamY_is_PagaN> naw it works awsome
[04:20] <Sheng> i'll be running it on a 1.5 ghz Sempron with 512mb RAM
[04:20] <Howitzer> coolkev, edit fstab
[04:20] <daniels> FoamY_is_PagaN: if kate is too complex, try ktextedit
[04:20] <Howitzer> sudo gedit /etc/fstab/
[04:20] <wolki> coolkev: manually or permanently?
[04:21] <FoamY_is_PagaN> the apps are still all there i just ripped out the gui menu's
[04:21] <aarcane> wolki, alright..  I have gnome stuff installed too on this biatch, I may take alot of it out..  problem is that with apt-get, dependancies are impossible..  because dependancies are just installed as regular packages....  >,.,<
[04:21] <coolkev> manually
[04:21] <coolkev> or permenantly
[04:21] <tfort> damnit
[04:21] <tfort> ok, now i got wav files to stop playing all the damn time
[04:21] <tfort> but now cd's won't play
[04:21] <Howitzer> can't you put 'm in an auto-mount folder or something?
[04:21] <coolkev> perm is better
[04:21] <signbarn> how is ntfs better than fat32 -- fat32 can be read and written to from ubuntu, right? so i guess what i'm asking is why xp prefers ntfs.
[04:21] <FoamY_is_PagaN> thats the easest editor for a newb in linux i think
[04:21] <Howitzer> i thought ntfs was faster
[04:21] <wolki> coolkev, for permanently you'll have to edit /etc/fstab
[04:21] <coolkev> ntfs is faster and supports larger HD's better
[04:21] <Howitzer> FoamY_is_PagaN, don't underestimate beaver
[04:21] <ubuntuguide> ntfs allows security -sort of :-)
[04:22] <Sheng> ntfs is much faster, allows for user group control, and it has far fewer corruptability issues
[04:22] <FoamY_is_PagaN> beaver? never tryed it
[04:22] <aarcane> I'm running kubuntu on a celeron 1.4 with 768 MB PC72000 RAM, and it sucks ass, it's slow, but bearable
[04:22] <ubuntuguide> user permissions and so forth
[04:22] <tfort> Howitzer, who cares, reiser is faster than all anyway
[04:22] <coolkev> wolki do you know the command i would have to type?
[04:22] <Howitzer> it is?
[04:22] <Howitzer> damn
[04:22] <Sheng> aarcane, that's because of yoru celeron
[04:22] <Sheng> intel sucks
[04:22] <Howitzer> i'm always using ext3 :/
[04:22] <FoamY_is_PagaN> i thought there where linux partitions that where better than ntfs?
[04:22] <Howitzer> Intel doesn't suck
[04:22] <tfort> Howitzer, yea they erally do
[04:22] <coolkev> Resier4 i think is better
[04:22] <coolkev> and XFS
[04:22] <bob2> resier4 isn't even in the mainline kernel yet
[04:23] <tfort> coolkev, that's what i was stalking about
[04:23] <aarcane> Howitzer, on my home pc, I use ext2
[04:23] <wolki> add something like "/dev/hda2       /mount/d               ext3    defaults 0       2"
[04:23] <FoamY_is_PagaN> amd is better than intel i think but i can't afford one >.<
[04:23] <bob2> and xfs likes to replace files with strings of 0's
[04:23] <signbarn> can you read/write on fat32 from ubuntu?
[04:23] <tfort> bob2, it can be considered pretty stable though
[04:23] <tanki> aarcane, why not ext3?
[04:23] <tanki> shorter fsck times
[04:23] <wolki> to the /etc/fstab file
[04:23] <bob2> tfort: by who?
[04:23] <Sheng> $146 for Athlon64 939 300+ retail
[04:23] <bob2> signbarn: sure
[04:23] <Howitzer> signbarn, ye
[04:23] <Howitzer> only not on ntfs(i thought)
[04:23] <tfort> bob2, i've used it for my servers, and they all run fine, no problems yet
[04:23] <Sheng> 3000+
[04:23] <FoamY_is_PagaN> amd motherboards are custom made to run sweet with nvidia
[04:23] <aarcane> tanki, never need to fsck unless I do something stupid, and if that happens, I deserve it
[04:23] <wolki> and don't forget to create the /mount/d file
[04:23] <tfort> FoamY_is_PagaN, i wouldn't say that, but they are nice
[04:23] <FoamY_is_PagaN> yea
[04:23] <Sheng> goodybe
[04:23] <signbarn> i'm currently dual booting xp/ubuntu, so i think i'm going to reformat my xp partition and make it fat32.
[04:23] <ICXCNIKA> I just ordered off for ubuntu
[04:24] <tfort> signbarn, just make it reiserfs
[04:24] <tanki> aarcane, i guess you never had an AGP lockup or power going out
[04:24] <tanki> ok
[04:24] <wolki> to edit the fstab, enter gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[04:24] <aarcane> signbarn, you should use some shared space
[04:24] <chibifs> ICXCNIKA - good luck getting it this year.   D drive on windows, and /media/d on ubuntu
[04:25] <tanki> infact it's even set in hdparm to run fsck on a disk every 160 days since the last reboot
[04:25] <signbarn> aarcane: that makes sense, but when i was configuring wine, it said it prefers to have read/write access to the system files of windows
[04:25] <aarcane> tanki, I'd like to see you fsck a mounted partition
[04:25] <tanki> obviously i'm referring to onboot
[04:26] <chibifs> All this talk about fscking and mounting
[04:26] <Howitzer> if i want to create a partition to use for backing up Ubuntu, (no booting whatsoever), how lrge does the partition have to be (average-wise) + what type? --(i'm using gparted)
[04:26] <aarcane> signbarn, you generally don't want or need windows for wine
[04:26] <tanki> there is no reason not to upgrade ext2 to ext3, there's no overhead and ext3 offers some things better
[04:26] <coolkev> resier4 is full working and intergrated into the minislack distro
[04:26] <signbarn> ya don't say... that sounds promising
[04:26] <tanki> infact u can even upgrade ext2 to ext3 without rebooting i think
[04:26] <tanki> but anyway, to each his own
[04:27] <chibifs> coolkev - Serious? I've been hearing a lot of good about minislack.
[04:27] <aarcane> Howitzer, it depends, are you backing up all of / including home, /tmp, etc
[04:27] <aarcane> ?
[04:27] <Howitzer> ehh
[04:27] <Howitzer> well
[04:27] <Howitzer> everything except the basic installation
[04:27] <coolkev> can you convert a ext3 drive to resierFS without loosing the data already there?
[04:27] <coolkev> in ubuntu
[04:27] <aarcane> Howitzer, :-S
[04:27] <chibifs> I came here from slackware, I kinda miss it :P
[04:27] <Razor-X> coolkev: i'm pretty sure it's possible, because other utilities do it for you independant from the OS
[04:28] <aarcane> Distro Warz!!!
[04:28] <Razor-X> chibifs: ahhh, you have some obvious "h4ck3r r1ghts" ;)
[04:28] <coolkev> chibifs ubuntu is better then minislack in my opinoin, but minislack is on more of a bleeding edge then ubuntu, but is less reliable
[04:28] <Howitzer> when something goes wrong, i just install Ubuntu again and copy all the files
[04:28] <wolki> coolkev, i don't think so
[04:28] <Howitzer> chibifs ubuntu?.
[04:28] <Razor-X> minislack was nice, definitely
[04:28] <frank> coolkev: very unlikely
[04:28] <Razor-X> coolkev: that's kinda what bleeding-edge is, no?
[04:28] <Howitzer> eek
[04:29] <coolkev> ye
[04:29] <Howitzer> explain the term bleeding-edge please :(
[04:29] <coolkev> latest in software
[04:29] <Razor-X> Howitzer: basically, people cooperate on CVS to put in patches everyday
[04:29] <Howitzer> ooh
[04:29] <Razor-X> but, sometimes the patches have ill-effects that haven't been thoroughly tested
[04:29] <Howitzer> ooooooooh
[04:29] <Razor-X> when something has been thoroughly tested, it's released as a "release"
[04:29] <chibifs> Howitzer - Knoppix-Slackware-Debian-Slackware-Ubuntu-Mandriva(1 day)-Ubuntu Is my distro history.
[04:30] <Howitzer> like in 'a bleeding edge from the knife that has been used to chop off limbs''
[04:30] <chibifs> Probably used slackware the longest. Still run it on my laptop.
[04:30] <Howitzer> lol
[04:30] <Amaranth> bleeding-edge is the very latest software
[04:30] <Razor-X> Howitzer: hmmm, that's not something i've heard... ;)
[04:30] <Amaranth> it's called bleeding edge because you get hurt
[04:30] <Howitzer> i did:
[04:30] <Howitzer> Ooooooooh
[04:30] <Howitzer> okay
[04:30] <goldfish> bleeding-edge is 0-day
[04:30] <Howitzer> buggy and all
[04:30] <Howitzer> okay
[04:30] <Howitzer> now i get it
[04:30] <Howitzer> \ o /.
[04:30] <coolkev> minislack is for intermidiate users and ubuntu is for everyone... and minislack is very light weight as u can see it features XFCE as it's desktop
[04:30] <chibifs> I've tried a few others, but they were completely insignificant. :P
[04:31] <aarcane> what exists in the way of Security in Ubuntu, I want to deny root access, and prevent booting whenever a specific USB key identified by a single file is Inserted
[04:31] <chibifs> XFCE is my favorite :D
[04:31] <sproingie> ubuntu doesnt really wow me with features, but it does "just work" more than most
[04:31] <chibifs> I release tweaks to xfce now and then.
[04:31] <goldfish> i liked xfce until i tried fluxbox.
[04:31] <sproingie> aarcane: define "deny root access"
[04:31] <Razor-X> you vi/emacs users should _really_ try Conkeror
[04:31] <Razor-X> ;)
[04:31] <Howitzer> hmmm
[04:31] <Razor-X> for those of you fed up with using your mouse (which is why I switched to a trackball)
[04:31] <Howitzer> what is vi/emac?
[04:31] <aarcane> sproingie, no su, no sudo, no way that anything can authenticate as root, likely at the pam level
[04:31] <Razor-X> Howitzer: vi is a text editor
[04:31] <goldfish> editors
[04:31] <Razor-X> emacs is another
[04:32] <Howitzer> oooh
[04:32] <Razor-X> I won't get into the particulars here
[04:32] <Howitzer> why hasn't anybody heard of beaver
[04:32] <Razor-X> but, they're both hotly rallied for, it's even bigger than distro wars
[04:32] <Howitzer> it's the best text editor there is!
[04:32] <Razor-X> Howitzer: I have
[04:32] <wolki> aarcane: don#t make a root account and remove yourself from the sudoers file
[04:32] <ep> cause we're geeks
[04:32] <^thehatsrule^> Howitzer: i have, and most of the dsl crew
[04:32] <coolkev> any linux smart people can pm me and tell me how to convert an ext3 parition to resierfs without loosing the data?
[04:32] <Howitzer> light, functional and uber-good
[04:32] <giant> lol... ep reading my mind
[04:32] <Razor-X> I am writing a guide, where text editors is a focus
[04:32] <^thehatsrule^> oh hey Razor-X :P
[04:32] <Razor-X> and so, I researched up on quite a few
[04:32] <Razor-X> ^thehatsrule^: hey
[04:32] <aarcane> wolki, I want such access to be available when the USB key is inserted
[04:32] <^thehatsrule^> Razor-X: i see youve moved all to ubuntu? ;p
[04:32] <Razor-X> including Beaver, cream, joe, etc.
[04:33] <Howitzer> ^thehatsrule^, rofl, aren't you from #damnsmalllinux? :D
[04:33] <Razor-X> ^thehatsrule^: yes, I have!
[04:33] <^thehatsrule^> Howitzer: yes i am, and so is Razor-X ;p
[04:33] <Howitzer> i used DSL
[04:33] <Razor-X> but, DSL is still running faithfully in the other machine
[04:33] <^thehatsrule^> hehe
[04:33] <Razor-X> ^thehatsrule^: yeah, was a DSL fan before I was an Ubuntu one
[04:33] <sproingie> aarcane: hmm ... i don't think you'll ever get something bulletproof, not without SELinux or RSBAC
[04:33] <Razor-X> still think DSL is awesome for what it does
[04:33] <Howitzer> oooh
[04:33] <Razor-X> highly reccomend it, even over minislack
[04:33] <^thehatsrule^> i used both, but i still havent found a machine for hoary permaenently
[04:33] <Howitzer> Minislackl looks nice
[04:33] <sproingie> aarcane: anything you do with a stock ubuntu policy-wise will be a scripted hack, easy to get around
[04:34] <Howitzer> should i try minislack?
[04:34] <Razor-X> Howitzer: your choice
[04:34] <^thehatsrule^> its alright...
[04:34] <^thehatsrule^> LOL
[04:34] <wolki> nano rocks
[04:34] <^thehatsrule^> cedega notepad
[04:34] <Howitzer> indeed
[04:34] <^thehatsrule^> hahahha
[04:34] <Razor-X> aarcane: why waste cedega on notepad?
[04:34] <coolkev> Howitzer try it if you been using linux for a while and are comfortable with it
[04:34] <sproingie> cedega command.com
[04:34] <Howitzer> hmm
[04:34] <aarcane> sproingie, I think a pam module and a strong as sodomy root password would work
[04:34] <Razor-X> WINE works way better for that stuff
[04:34] <Howitzer> is it hard?
[04:34] <sproingie> cedega EDLIN
[04:34] <^thehatsrule^> you may as well use dosbox
[04:34] <Razor-X> ^thehatsrule^: mmmm, that's some awesome stuff
[04:35] <coolkev> minislack is not user friendly, speciallly it's setup
[04:35] <Howitzer> i emulated the XP install screen yesterday
[04:35] <Howitzer> with wine
[04:35] <aarcane> Razor-X, because I happen to have cedega lying around for games, and don't want TWO C drives ?
[04:35] <Howitzer> really funny
[04:35] <Howitzer> wait
[04:35] <calc> sproingie: cedega copy con
[04:35] <Howitzer> i'll make a screen :D
[04:35] <Razor-X> aarcane: well, it's still a waste of proc power, IMO
[04:35] <sproingie> aarcane: well sure, if you just don't grant sudo and still keep a root passwd, any unix will fit the bill
[04:35] <calc> edlin is too user friendly ;)
[04:35] <Razor-X> I have to get tetris-net :(
[04:35] <hybrid_goth> anyone here have a psp they connect to their linux box?
[04:35] <Razor-X> nethack is so addictive though... gah
[04:35] <sproingie> copy con\con
[04:35] <Howitzer> nethack?
[04:35] <Razor-X> Howitzer: OMG
[04:35] <^thehatsrule^> Razor-X: you play tetrinet? ;p
[04:36] <Howitzer> isn't that something Anime-alike?
[04:36] <Razor-X> the ub3r awesome RPG
[04:36] <wolki> no
[04:36] <Razor-X> ^thehatsrule^: I must get
[04:36] <Howitzer> ooooooh
[04:36] <Howitzer> wait
[04:36] <hybrid_goth> crawl pwns nethack
[04:36] <Razor-X> is there an emacs interface? XD
[04:36] <wolki> it's ascii-like :)
[04:36] <^thehatsrule^> its old style hacckkkk
[04:36] <Howitzer> isn't that that ascii game?
[04:36] <DekaPink> I've tried to burn a CD with k3b and gnomebaker and both times it's said it couldn't fixate the disk. o.O
[04:36] <Howitzer> oh i hated that :(
[04:36] <^thehatsrule^> Howitzer: it can be ANYTHING now ;p
[04:36] <Razor-X> hybrid_goth: I was thinking of thinking of a nice non-real-time MMORPG system
[04:36] <aarcane> sproingie, problem is, I want sudo and su - to fail completely without either the root password or the USB key in the port.  in the case of the USB key being present, they should both allow full root access, No questions asked
[04:36] <sproingie> every time i think windows might really be approaching a real usable OS, i think of the time i had a file named "nul"
[04:36] <Howitzer> i want Guild Wars back :'(
[04:36] <Razor-X> Howitzer: you're a disgrace ;)
[04:37] <hybrid_goth> Razor-X: game orgasms there
[04:37] <sproingie> windows goes to some amazing lengths to stay broken in the name of compatibility
[04:37] <Razor-X> hybrid_goth: hahaha, true that
[04:37] <Razor-X> but, I have an HL2 story to think up
[04:37] <^thehatsrule^> Razor-X: ##tetrinet if you like ;p
[04:37] <DekaPink> But since it finished burning and then couldn't fixate it... Can I still use the disk? :3
[04:37] <aarcane> sproingie, a file named "nul" ?  what happen ?
[04:37] <Razor-X> which, though I refused the money for, the payoff is a few-hundred
[04:37] <Razor-X> Razor-X: heh, ok
[04:37] <hybrid_goth> Razor-X: WoW ASCII
[04:37] <Howitzer> i'll pray for the day every single program for windows will be able to work on linux
[04:37] <ep> I'm new an ubuntu has been my best experience out of about 3 tries.  I may have to go back to Debian  cause I can't figure out how to install bzflag 2.0 under ubuntu.  (I'm a bzflag junkie).  Anybody done this?
[04:37] <Razor-X> hybrid_goth: there is?!
[04:38] <Howitzer> then microsoft will go bankrupt
[04:38] <aarcane> lol
[04:38] <sproingie> aarcane: ohhh, you want a file on the USB key to be a token.  yeah, that's doable with pam, i just don't know how offhand
[04:38] <Razor-X> and no, I don't play HL2 either
[04:38] <Razor-X> heh
[04:38] <hybrid_goth> Razor-X: Yea untill I woke up
[04:38] <Razor-X> hybrid_goth: XDDD
[04:38] <Razor-X> brb, i'll be back in a sec
[04:38] <aarcane> sproingie, yeah, i already have the file, and I think it's a good choice..  noone would guess it, lol
[04:38] <Howitzer> wtf
[04:38] <sproingie> aarcane: you might actually need to write a custom PAM module, though it'd be like 10 lines of C at most
[04:38] <Howitzer> weird problem here
[04:38] <Madpilot> ep: bzflag is in the Ubuntu repos.
[04:38] <aarcane> sproingie, I figgured that
[04:38] <wolki> ep: there are some options. ask for a backport in the forum or comppile it yourself
[04:39] <sdnnvs> ubuntu-br
[04:39] <wolki> ep: or wait for breezy :)
[04:39] <sproingie> aarcane: actually, you might even be able to write pam modules in bash.  i seem to recall solaris where i used to work had some pam modules in bourne shell
[04:40] <Madpilot> off to the gym, back later. if I'm going to turn into a linux geek, I may as well stay a *fit* linux geek...
[04:40] <sproingie> aarcane: i think it's as simple as the return status... you'd have to read the pam docs tho
[04:40] <aarcane> sproingie, I'm pretty sure it would be
[04:41] <Razor-X> back
[04:41] <ep> yes, i'm almost there on compiling it.   But I need libcurl3 version 7.13 or greater and it needs other dependencies probably....  I'll ask in the forum.
[04:41] <Howitzer> omfg
[04:41] <Razor-X> you know what I want to see
[04:41] <Razor-X> a TECO vs. ed match ;)
[04:41] <someluser> I seriously broke my nvidia driver, can anyone help?
[04:41] <Razor-X> that would be awesome, seriously
[04:41] <sproingie> teco owns ed
[04:41] <Howitzer> i wined the XP install program and everything freezed
[04:41] <Razor-X> sproingie: amen tothat
[04:41] <LaLu> pastis forever !
[04:41] <Howitzer> not normal
[04:41] <Razor-X> s/tothat/to that/
[04:42] <Howitzer> Linux never freezed untill i tried an XP program
[04:42] <Howitzer> -_-
[04:42] <Howitzer> anyways
[04:42] <Razor-X> Howitzer: hah!
[04:42] <Howitzer> off to reboot
[04:42] <sproingie> yeah it'll do that
[04:42] <Howitzer> i'll see you guys in a minute
[04:43] <someluser> you guys are really unhelpful
[04:43] <sproingie> gotta love install programs that run in directx full screen
[04:43] <sproingie> probably trying to install a game
[04:43] <ep> wolki, what forum is that i should ask in?
[04:43] <ep> i can i see the channel topic?
[04:43] <ep> how
[04:43] <sproingie> someluser: that's okay, you don't have to tip us then
[04:44] <bwlang> ep: slash topic
[04:44] <Howitzer> hehe
[04:44] <someluser> sproingie, i asked five times and nobody wants to even acknowledge me
[04:44] <Howitzer> restarting X was good enough
[04:44] <someluser> sproingie, you're the first one
[04:44] <Razor-X> someluser: are we getting paid?
[04:44] <Razor-X> no
[04:44] <Howitzer> http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xpinstallonubuntu7xd.png