[00:09] <plc5_250> possible bug in 9.04 - when going into media manager to add metadata for already saved media, I get a dialog in the middle of the screen that asks me to enter the IMDB number.  The window shouldn't be there and it won't receive focus.  Main screen (behind this window) has focus and receives keyboard/mouse events.
[00:11] <plc5_250> default install of MythBuntu on an Intel 945GCLF board (512m ram, core-single Atom).
[00:15] <plc5_250> Another possible bug in 9.04 (related to above bug perhaps).  Search for metadata/poster returns not found so you get the option to manually enter IMDB number.  Enter any number and press enter and the Frontend crashes.
[00:16] <plc5_250> So far, both potential bugs are 100% repeatable.  I am running an update cycle right now and will retest after a reboot.
[00:35] <plc5_250> update on second bug - if you try to enter a number for the manual IMDB entry, nothing happens.  If you hit escape, the frontend crashes.
[00:35] <plc5_250> otherwise - both bugs are still present post-update
[00:40] <MythbuntuGuest84> I do not get any sound using mythbuntu but I can see my intel onboard sound ?
[03:26] <mbobak> Hello.....
[03:27] <mbobak> Is anyone here running Mythbuntu Weekly builds?
[03:29] <mbobak> I just did 'apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade', and now when I run mythfrontend, I get "Protocol version mismatch (frontend=46,backend=45)".
[03:29] <mbobak> Am I stuck till there's another build in a week?
[03:29] <mbobak> Is there any known workaround?
[03:30] <mbobak> I did verify that all myth packages are at the same version, "0.21.0-trunk21261".
[03:30] <mbobak> Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks.
[03:42] <mbobak> Ok, never mind.  I figured it out.
[03:44] <mbobak> I bounced mythbackend repeatedly, using /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend, and it reported that it was killing and restarting, but it wasn't, there was an old version stuck.  I did a kill -9 on the stuck old mythbackend, then did /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start, and now it's fine.
[03:44] <mbobak> I'm all good.  Thanks anyhow.
[03:49] <superm1> mbobak, that's weird that it wouldn't stop when you tried to stop from the init script
[03:49] <superm1> good that it was an easy solution at least :)
[04:57] <MythbuntuGuest24> Protocol version mismatch (frontend=46,backend=45)
[04:57] <MythbuntuGuest24> can't use the latest mythbuntu frontend with the latest backend
[04:58] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest24, kill the backend process and restart it
[04:58] <superm1> or reboot
[05:00] <MythbuntuGuest24> superm1 : Did the trick thanks! /etc/init.d/mythvbacken restart wasnt wnough it seems
[05:01] <MythbuntuGuest24> fairly painless fix, I thank you :)
[14:27] <rek>  hybrid pci lv3h   is it supported?
[21:10] <linxeh> does anyone here use the antec microfusion remote case ?


[13:01] <santa_> good afternoon everyone
[13:02] <santa_> RikMills: merkuro package should be ready to be uploaded, copyright file and qml dependencies included
[13:02] <santa_> let me know if I missed anything in the package
[13:02] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:03] <santa_> the fake src:kalendar doesn't have the QML depends :|
[13:10] <RikMills> santa_: that is weird. not sure what happened there
[13:10] <RikMills> will upload shortly
[13:11] <santa_> RikMills: no problem, thanks a lot for correcting this
[13:11] <santa_> btw be careful when merging from debian
[13:12] <santa_> oh, also a note about this package: it recommends kalendarac, which doesn't exist in kubuntu
[13:12] <santa_> for now I just kept it that way as it's harmless, but whenever we have more time we can discuss what to do
[13:16] <RikMills> santa_: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/mantic/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text=merkuro
[13:18] <RikMills> ok on kalendarac
[13:20] <RikMills> santa_: I will bother admins about the new queue tomorrow when 23.08 comes out
[13:22] <RikMills> and thanks
[23:02] <santa_> hi everyone
[23:04] <santa_> RikMills: note for tomorrow: futuresql, kontrast, angelfish ready for a possible upload with FFEs and all. built and tested in the staging PPA
[23:04] <santa_> good night everyone


[07:58] <brunch875> nto the ring
[08:01] <brunch875> whoops sorry, IRC popped up as I was typing
[08:18] <tathhu> morning
[09:51] <xpheres> hello
[09:52] <xpheres> I would be very happy if anyone can confirm the current version is working and write it in the reviews: https://uappexplorer.com/app/analyticaltranslatordemo.xpheresdev
[10:10] <SturmFlut> I've lost the overview over our Bluetooth API. Is QtBluetooth part of OTA-5, and does it work with confinement?
[10:43] <Dragonkeeper> is there a network monitor that can monitor mobile data only and save results to be counted up over time and over reboots ?
[10:44] <Dragonkeeper> i dont mind if its terminal based.
[10:47] <Dragonkeeper> chrome being webased id assume there would be one instore ... i guess thats been over looked
[11:15] <xpheres> any idea of when is it going to work the ubuntu touch emulator?
[11:30] <SturmFlut> xpheres: I've raised the issue with a couple of people, will hopefully be fixed soon
[11:31] <xpheres> hopefully
[11:31] <xpheres> I rely on people to see results and my app did not work on the firsts releases and I have a bad review
[11:31] <SturmFlut> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phablet-tools/+bug/1467865
[11:31] <xpheres> it worked on QT creator but not in the mobile
[11:31] <xpheres> hopefully the problem is solved
[11:32] <xpheres> thanks
[11:33] <xpheres> if anyone have the time to test my app and at least write in reviews that it works I will be happy
[11:34] <SturmFlut> I think one the problems with your app was that it used fixed-width text areas, and the phone has different screen settings than the desktop. Usually the best thing is to change the window size of your app on the desktop and make sure that it prefectly adapts to all changes
[11:34] <SturmFlut> s/prefectly/perfectly/
[11:45] <anpok> Dragonkeeper: write one.. http://notyetthere.org/openstore-tweakgeek-and-more/
[11:51] <SturmFlut> anpok: A traffic counter should probably be part of the system, but i'm not sure. On one hand it's very nice, on the other your device will always account data usage slightly different than your provider, and all providers will usually show you their interpretation of the current status in some web interface. So a webapp might already do the trick.
[12:30] <Isotop7> is there any info on when the next update of libqtelegram will be published....just read it in the bugsection and wondered when its going to be realeased....
[12:38] <SturmFlut> Isotop7: "In a couple of weeks" according to the developers
[12:39] <Isotop7> okay...im desperately hoping they get voice recordings working even though i think it will be also a ubuntu-touch thing to deploy...when dont have a decent voice recording api, do we?
[12:41] <SturmFlut> Isotop7: I thought voice recordings were already there in the last version
[12:42] <Isotop7> SturmFlut: regarding telegram or ubuntu-touch?
[12:42] <SturmFlut> Isotop7: Telegram
[12:43] <Isotop7> SturmFlut: okay...if someone sends me a voice recording i just get to see a "unsupported content" message...and i just can send photos, videos and "data"....
[12:44] <Isotop7> SturmFlut: "Data" seems to be a generic option with several apps to return content to telegram...
[12:44] <SturmFlut> Isotop7: Let me check
[12:45] <Isotop7> SturmFlut: fyi...i got v.1.3.18 running...
[12:46] <SturmFlut> Isotop7: Hmm, I thought I saw voice recording being merged into 1.3.15, but the version from the store I'm running is <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:46] <Isotop7> SturmFlut: how did i get <IP_ADDRESS> then?
[12:51] <SturmFlut> Isotop7: I have no idea. The last version in the offical store is <IP_ADDRESS> from May 20.
[12:52] <Isotop7> SturmFlut: shouldnt be based on the device i think...i got arale with rc-proposed on r58...
[12:53] <SturmFlut> Isotop7: Me too, let me look
[13:04] <SturmFlut> Isotop7: Oh, they actually ship Telegram <IP_ADDRESS> with the rc-proposed r58 "custom" tarball
[13:06] <SturmFlut> Isotop7: Actually we have a voice recording API with QtMultimedia, the implementation is a bit buggy but the API is pretty nice and powerful.
[13:14] <Isotop7> SturmFlut: Okay....so i'll just have to wait a bit :D
[13:15] <SturmFlut> I really thought I saw voice recording merged into Telegram 1.3.15
[13:17] <Isotop7> could test it on my mako tomorrow...maybe its there...
[13:19] <Isotop7> one question: ubuntu -touch with arale supports lte/4g right? Is there an own icon to be shown when it uses 4g? i know the locations where i usually got 4g with my galaxy s6 but arale just shows an "h" for hsdpa(+)....
[13:46] <Isotop7> how can i test over adb shell and ofono if my arale uses lte and just has problems to show it?
[13:48] <mariogrip> anyone have an idea on why i get: linux_qmi_qmux_io.c: Unable to open port id /dev/smdcntl0, error [19:No such device]
[13:48] <mariogrip> ogra_: ^
[13:52] <SturmFlut> Isotop7: call /usr/share/ofono/scripts/list-modems and /usr/share/ofono/scripts/list-operators on the phone
[13:53] <SturmFlut> Isotop7: The first one should show "ModemTechnologies = gsm umts lte" and "TechnologyPreference = lte" under "org.ofono.RadioSettings"
[13:53] <SturmFlut> Isotop7: The second one should include "lte" in the "Technologies" field under your home operator
[13:56] <tathhu> i got 4g icon on nexus7
[13:59] <SturmFlut> At least my arale does 4G in germany
[14:00] <mariogrip> SturmFlut: do you have a mako or a device with qcom modem? can you try something for me really quick?
[14:00] <SturmFlut> mariogrip: Only MediaTek, sorry
[14:00] <mariogrip> okey
[14:29] <Isotop7> SturmFlut: i also live in germany...to which provider does your sim belong?
[14:30] <SturmFlut> Isotop7: O2/E-Plus, it was issued by E-Plus
[14:30] <SturmFlut> Isotop7: did you check the output of the commands above?
[14:30] <Isotop7> SturmFlut: yeah i heard that...just wondere if you also use vodafone...
[14:31] <Isotop7> im doing it like in 1 minute...all 3 usb ports are blocked atm :D
[14:31] <SturmFlut> You can use SSH
[14:31] <SturmFlut> ;)
[14:34] <Isotop7> SturmFlut: youre right...did not thought about that :D
[14:37] <Isotop7> SturmFlut: well f*ck...first command shows "fake manufacturer" and "fake model" but shows lte (also used under preferred) but list-operators only shows gsm and egde...is this based on location or does it tell me that my apn is just able to provide gms edge even if i could use lte in my region...
[14:39] <Isotop7> SturmFlut: but the apn under list-contexts is the valid one for vodafone and lte...
[14:39] <SturmFlut> If list-operators doesn't show lte, the modem and your operator agreed that you cannot get it.
[14:39] <Isotop7> maybe i just had no luck getting into the right radio cell till now...
[14:42] <Isotop7> SturmFlut: do you know if output of list-operators is dependant of current possible network connection?
[14:43] <SturmFlut> Isotop7: list-operators is always up-to-date, when you move, it changes. I'm a bit surprised that you can get 4G with your Nexus 6, but in the same spot just EDGE with the MX4
[14:49] <Isotop7> SturmFlut: Sorry...i did not tell it correctly...where i'm atm i cant get 4g with my arale nor my zerofltexx...but i often have 4g on my zerofltexx at my gf's place...there arale refuses to connect to better network than h....i'll check what list-operators chows when im at her place tomorrow :)
[14:50] <Isotop7> SturmFlut: but thank you very much :)
[14:50] <SturmFlut> \o/
[14:50] <SturmFlut> Mobile networks are a horrible thing. So complex, and so hard to get right.
[15:05] <K1773R> is there a bug for bluetooth on nexus 4 not being enabled until your restart the device?
[15:06] <SturmFlut> K1773R: No idea, have you searched Launchpad?
[15:06] <K1773R> only quickly
[15:34] <hevyhomie> hello, I am trying to build http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11867212/  and  I keep getting error after executing make command : http://pastebin.com/egjeDDsM
[18:03] <hevyhomie> hello
[18:50] <blrrrrrn> how do i select the developer channel for my nexus 4/mako? no matter what i do, the "ubuntu-device-flash touch --channel=ubuntu-touch/devel/ubuntu" gives me the stable branch :(
[18:50] <blrrrrrn> hi DonkeyHotei
[18:55] <jrbt> blrrrrrn,  what do you want?
[18:55] <jrbt> change you channel?
[18:55] <jrbt> r*
[18:58] <blrrrrrn> jrbt: yes
[20:36] <ReginaldK> Hi, I'm taking a look at getting Ubuntu Touch to boot on Nexus 7 2012 (grouper)
[20:36] <ReginaldK> I know it's not supported any more, but it's the only hardware I've got available right now
[20:37] <ReginaldK> Does anybody know why support was dropped for it?
[20:39] <ReginaldK> More specific question: I can get it to (kind of) boot, but there's just a white flash and then the screen goes black
[20:40] <ReginaldK> adb shell can connect, but it looks like it's just inside the lxc and not in ubuntu's own root
[20:45] <ReginaldK> I should probably mention, I'm running the vivid system image with the saucy boot image (the vivid boot image won't flash via fastboot)
[20:46] <ReginaldK> Is that likely to be a problem? (read: a terrible idead :P)
[20:46] <ReginaldK> system image is from here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/vivid/daily-preinstalled/current/
[23:08] <codepython777> What laptop do ubuntu developers use for working / developing ubuntu [-touch] - does anyone here know?


[00:05] <alberto> hola
[04:20] <mmn_> hi!
[04:21] <mmn_> Hi!
[04:23] <mmn_> Hey, is there anyone alive around here?!
[04:24] <Shubuntu> hey guys, how do i use netcat to reverse dns look up?
[04:29] <mmn_> Shubuntu look here http://dcssrv1.oit.uci.edu/~franklin/doc/netcat.html
[04:30] <mmn_> hope it will help
[04:30] <Shubuntu> mmn_: thanks
[04:32] <Shubuntu> that link didn't have any details though, just said that it's possible
[04:32] <mmn_> hmm
[04:32] <mmn_> and why only netcat?
[04:33] <Shubuntu> cause it's a commandline toolkit
[04:34] <mmn_> need to use it in some scripts?
[04:34] <Shubuntu> yes
[04:37] <mmn_> and why not nslookup?
[04:38] <mmn_> hi, boss
[04:40] <mmn_> interesting,,,
[04:40] <mmn_> 200+ users on channel
[04:41] <mmn_> and everyone is silent
[04:41] <mmn_> Shubuntu, what version of Kubuntu do you have?
[04:42] <Shubuntu> mmn_: 13.04
[04:42] <mmn_> I'm having big trouble with installing nvidia driver
[04:59] <valorie> mmn_: this is a help channel, not a chat chan
[04:59] <valorie> if you have a question ask it, and perhaps people can help
[05:04] <mmn_> ok
[05:05] <mmn_> I have a 13.04 on Laptop ASUS K53S
[05:05] <mmn_> video is nvidia GeForce GT 630M
[05:06] <mmn_> I tried different drivers - both Proprietary and Open
[05:07] <mmn_> But some of the desktop effects still don't work, and system is extremly slow
[05:07] <mmn_> That means, that drivers doesn't work, as far as i understand
[05:09] <skreech__> mmn_: You have a question?
[05:09] <skreech__> Whoops page down :)
[05:09] <skreech__> Oh wait youstill haven't asked yet
[05:09] <mmn_> It's a preface
[05:10] <skreech__> Yes I see :)
[05:10] <mmn_> the question is that I can't install the driver correctly
[05:10] <mmn_> When using console installer I recieve error messages
[05:10] <skreech__> can you pastebin
[05:10] <mmn_> smthg about the cc compiler version
[05:11] <mmn_> and that kernel model compilation failed
[05:11] <mmn_> it was from a pseudographic installer
[05:12] <mmn_> which runs in console mode w/o X server
[05:12] <skreech__> What kernel do you have?
[05:13] <mmn_> the last one - 3.9.0-030900rc6-generic
[05:13] <mmn_> also, i checked Xorg log
[05:13] <mmn_> and found:
[05:14] <mmn_> mmn@mmn-K53SM:~$ cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE
[05:14] <mmn_>         (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[05:14] <mmn_> [    23.025] Initializing built-in extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
[05:14] <mmn_> [    25.784] (EE) Failed to load module "intel" (module does not exist, 0)
[05:14] <mmn_> [    25.932] (EE) Failed to load module "nouveau" (module does not exist, 0)
[05:14] <FloodBotK1> mmn_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:14] <mmn_> [    26.034] (EE) Failed to load module "intel" (module does not exist, 0)
[05:16] <valorie> !pastebin | mmn_
[05:16] <mmn_> valorie thx
[05:17] <mmn_> btw this orange lines in Quassel IRC are private messages, right?
[05:17] <mmn_> How can I send them?
[05:17] <valorie> I use Konversation, so dunno
[05:17] <skreech__> mmn_: depends. Is this orange?
[05:18] <mmn_> Skreech yes it is
[05:18] <skreech__> mmn_: It's just highlighting that someone said your name
[05:18] <mmn_> ah ok
[05:18] <mmn_> anyway
[05:20] <mmn_> i also tried installing drivers with "Programs and updates
[05:20] <mmn_>  -> additional drivers tab
[05:20] <mmn_> and with apt-get
[05:20] <mmn_> but still no destop effects :(
[05:22] <mmn_> some of them work however, the most beautiful like cube with desktops, and waving of windows when you move them do not
[05:23] <mmn_> when I try to turn them on, i recieve a message that openGL is required
[05:24] <mmn_> Lol, only now I realise how poor my English actually is
[05:29] <mmn_> Any bright ideas, guys?
[05:29] <mmn_> If you need some logs or configs i'll gladly use a pastebin )
[05:30] <valorie> skreech__: is much more technically knowledgeable than I am
[05:31] <valorie> !opengl
[05:31] <valorie> !info opengl
[05:31] <valorie> piffle
[05:31] <skreech__> lol :)
[05:33] <skreech__> mmn_: alright what's the error you are getting?
[05:34] <mmn_> when installing from console?
[05:34] <mmn_> several ))
[05:35] <mmn_> at first it says that it seems there is no device supported by this driver
[05:35] <mmn_> however, install continues
[05:36] <mmn_> than it says that another nvidia driver installation is found
[05:37] <mmn_> tries do delete it and also generates some error like "file not found"
[05:37] <mmn_> btw i rememvered now
[05:37] <mmn_> the installer said that there must be a log file
[05:37] <mmn_> i dont  remember the name exactly
[05:38] <mmn_> but i'll take a look thro my /var/log
[05:38] <mmn_> 1 moment plz
[05:38] <greygan> I am having a problem. I just installed Kubuntu 13.04 and my apps do not see my drives. Only the home folder unless I go in and mount them manually. Any suggestions?
[05:38] <mmn_> greygan how your /etc/fstab looks?
[05:39] <greygan> has a single line... sec
[05:39] <mmn_> add all the partitions you need
[05:40] <mmn_> a tutorial is easy to google
[05:40] <greygan> K thanks
[05:41] <greygan> (My first time in KDE... Gnome didnt have this issue)
[05:42] <valorie> greygan: if it makes you feel any better, I've never heard of anyone having this trouble
[05:44] <greygan> valorie: it is weird. Thy all show up in Dolphin, it is just the apps that cant see them untill I mount from term or select them in dolphin
[05:45] <mmn_> http://paste.kde.org/755444/
[05:45] <valorie> that's extremely odd
[05:45] <mmn_> I had same problem with my NTFS disk
[05:45] <mmn_> It was always open in Dolphin
[05:46] <mmn_> And every time system loaded, i had a message that it's unreachable
[05:46] <mmn_> fstab saved me :)
[05:47] <greygan> well it is high time I learn how to edit fstab... so here goes :)
[05:47] <mmn_> anyone is lookin through my log already?
[05:47] <greygan> I looked at it long enough to see you are loading an Nvidia driver... That is what broke my Gnome install and got me here... LOL
[05:49] <greygan> I should say my Ringtail install. The nvidia driver broke it to the point I could only run in Gnome Fallback
[05:50] <skreech__> !fstab
[05:51] <skreech__> !info gcc
[05:51] <skreech__> valorie: can't apt-get install an older version from the repos?
[05:52] <skreech__> apt-get install gcc=4.6 or so?
[05:53] <skreech__> mmn_: so if you press ctrl+F9 nothing happens?
[05:54] <mmn_> btw after the driver installation my notebook loaded with 640*480 res
[05:54] <mmn_> Had to rm xorg.comf
[05:55] <mmn_> skreech__ it makes all the windows visible at one time
[05:55] <skreech__> Is ti slow?
[05:55] <skreech__> it
[05:55] <mmn_> they become smaller and ...
[05:55] <mmn_> No
[05:55] <mmn_> fast enough
[05:56] <skreech__> What do you see when You alt tab. Do you get small previews of the window?
[05:57] <mmn_> skreech_ yes, but they supposed to switch like a carousel
[05:57] <mmn_> and they don
[05:58] <mmn_> just rectangles on a flat surface
[06:00] <Unit193> !info gcc-4.6 | skreech__
[06:01] <mmn_> btw, while we are chatting here. I tried to install same version with apt-get
[06:02] <mmn_> now i see a message, that driver is installed but not activated
[06:02] <mmn_> in a util... Don't now how it's called in English
[06:02] <skreech__> mmn_: A carousel?
[06:02] <mmn_> I can make a screenshot one moment
[06:02] <skreech__> what setting do you have for window switching ?
[06:03] <mmn_> carousel AFAIR
[06:03] <skreech__> Unit193: Thanks :)
[06:03] <Unit193> Sure.
[06:05] <greygan> 1 more quick question... Has the command kdesu been removed in 13.04 or is that a system problem I am having?
[06:05] <mmn_> oops, no carousel
[06:06] <greygan> as in " kdesu kate /etc/fstab "
[06:06] <mmn_> I tried to set carousel, but it turned of automaticly
[06:06] <mmn_> because of none-workin openGL
[06:07] <mmn_> greygan I get kdesu - command not found
[06:07] <valorie> kdesudo
[06:07] <valorie> use that instead
[06:07] <greygan> mmn: OK, I feel better. Thats what I get.
[06:08] <greygan> OK cool thanks
[06:13] <mmn_> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/849/driversp.png/
[06:13] <mmn_> this is what I see regarding the drivers
[06:14] <skreech__> !kdesu
[06:14] <mmn_> caption of this window is translated as "Device drivers"
[06:15] <mmn_> And the text near a green dot at the bottom - this driver is activated, but not used now
[06:15] <skreech__> mmn_: Might have to reboot?
[06:15] <mmn_> the question is  - how to make the system use it
[06:16] <skreech__> I remember something about that with the nvidia installer
[06:16] <skreech__> course that was years ago when I had nvidia
[06:16] <mmn_> I'll try, but previous times it did not helps
[06:16] <mmn_> ok, ill reboot anyway, brb
[06:16] <kkerwin> Hi. Anyone familiar with a portable form of disk encryption that would be installable on a flash drive, and runnable on Windows/Mac/*nix systems without admin priveledges?
[06:21] <mmn_> I'm bavk
[06:21] <mmn_> back
[06:22] <mmn_> same s**t after reboot
[06:22] <kkerwin> mmn_: Good to meet you, bavk.
[06:22] <mmn_> driver is activated, but not used
[06:22] <mmn_> kkerwin hi
[06:22] <mmn_> what's bavk?
[06:22] <kkerwin> :-P
[06:22] <valorie> mmn_: do you have kde-jockey?
[06:22] <mmn_> Hmm I'll check 1 moment
[06:23] <valorie> I've not used that for awhile, but it does still work for messing with drivers
[06:23] <valorie> if not, might be worth installing
[06:24] <mmn_> simply by apt-get?
[06:24] <valorie> yes, that will work
[06:24] <mmn_> ok
[06:26] <ahoneybun> valorie: jockey is installed by default
[06:26] <valorie> cool
[06:27] <mmn_> Yes it is, I sent a screenshot of it 5 minutes ago
[06:27] <mmn_> but I don't see any possibility to make this driver be used
[06:27] <ahoneybun> you can just use kickoff and search jockey
[06:28] <mmn_> Maybe now it's time to configure xorg
[06:28] <valorie> or alt+f2 'jockey'
[06:28] <ahoneybun> yea
[06:28] <valorie> first
[06:28] <valorie> can't hurt, might help
[06:28] <mmn_> ahoneybun : i'm using it right now
[06:28] <ahoneybun> I have krunner set to ctrl space
[06:32] <mmn_> so how can this jockey help me?
[06:33] <mmn_> I see a list of drivers in it
[06:33] <mmn_> I see that one driver is currently installed
[06:33] <mmn_> and the others are not %) LOL
[06:35] <greygan> OK, I edited my fstab abd still have the same problem. Did I do something wrong?  http://paste.kde.org/755450/
[06:37] <mmn_> greygan: Yes you did
[06:37] <mmn_> U R trying 2 mount all your partitions to /
[06:38] <greygan> so I need to create seperate mount folders / points?
[06:38] <mmn_> and there may be only one partition at one mounting point
[06:38] <greygan> i c
[06:38] <mmn_> exactly!
[06:38] <greygan> thanks again... ima neewb
[06:38] <mmn_> Lol me to
[06:38] <mmn_>  ))
[06:38] <mmn_> gl
[06:38] <greygan> u2
[06:39] <mmn_> hmm looks like every one is afk
[06:39] <mmn_> ore they just don't wanna mess up with my video
[06:40] <mmn_> Guuuaaays, I neeed yeeer heeelp
[06:40] <mmn_> Somebody... Anybody?!
[06:43] <rosco_y> Can anyone tell me how to install twiki?
[06:46] <valorie> rosco_y: is there a twiki package?
[06:46] <valorie> !info twiki
[06:46] <valorie> huh
[06:46] <valorie> then you may have to find a .deb
[06:47] <mmn_> hmm if no one knows about video
[06:47] <mmn_> one simle questions
[06:48] <mmn_> how can i make links open in firefox by default
[06:48] <mmn_> cos now they are opened in rekonq
[06:48] <mmn_> and i use it to browse tor
[06:48] <mmn_> so it's slow
[06:49] <rosco_y> valorie: ty.  I tried aptitude, didn't find anything in there.....
[06:50] <tsimpson> mmn_: System Settings -> Default Applications -> Web Browser
[06:50] <mmn_> Oh that easy
[06:50] <mmn_> thx a lot
[06:50] <valorie> rosco_y: you can look on twiki.org and see if they have .deb files
[06:50] <rosco_y> valorie: I think you're right about the deb.....
[06:51] <rosco_y> :) I'll do that, thank you....
[06:54] <mmn_> http://paste.kde.org/755462/
[06:55] <mmn_> here are the errors of Xorg.0.log
[06:56] <greygan> I think I have the fstab file correct now, as my computer is tryng to index ALL my drives... LOL that index is going to be HUGE!
[06:57] <valorie> mmn_: googling on one of your errors got me the hint to install and run 'nvidia-xconfig' which I recall has helped me in the past
[06:58] <mmn_> hmm nvidia-xconfig alreadyplayed a bad joke with me
[06:59] <mmn_> after using it and rebooting i had my monitor resolution set to 640*480
[06:59] <valorie> damn
[06:59] <mmn_> with no ability to change it
[06:59] <mmn_> so i just rm xorg.conf
[06:59] <mmn_> and now enjoying a normal resolution
[07:01] <valorie> cool
[07:01] <mmn_> hm i think i'll try to find good xorg conf tutorial in my native Russian language
[07:01] <greygan> Is it just indexing because I put my mount points in my home directory? Should they be elsewhere?
[07:01] <mmn_> greygan: you can mount them everywhere
[07:02] <mmn_> I don't have indexing turned on
[07:02] <mmn_> by default, NTFS partitions are mounted in /MEDIA
[07:03] <greygan> I should just turn it off as well. There is about 3 terabytes of data trying to be indexed now.
[07:03] <mmn_> 3 terras
[07:03] <mmn_> wow
[07:03] <greygan> mostly video
[07:03] <mmn_> what are you collecting?
[07:03] <mmn_> Child porn? %)
[07:03] <greygan> tv shows and movies mostly
[07:04] <greygan> lol
[07:04] <mmn_> joking, joking
[07:04] <valorie> not appropriate for this channel, ever
[07:11] <greygan> OK, this is crazy. Now that I have fstab configured to mount the drives, the app that could not see the unmounted drives will not launch...
[07:14] <valorie> greygan: start it from the console
[07:14] <valorie> and see what errors are thrown
[07:14] <greygan> k, sec
[07:15] <greygan> [ERROR   ] 02:15:07 ipcinterface:156 Deluge restart failed: Couldn't listen on any:/home/greygan/.config/deluge/ipc/deluge-gtk: Cannot acquire lock.
[07:15] <valorie> wow, I would google that
[07:15] <valorie> have not seen the like
[07:16] <valorie> I've never heard of any of the difficulties you are encountering
[07:16] <valorie> most strange
[07:16] <greygan> it worked before I mounted the drives. can it be because I mounted them in a new folder in the home directory?
[07:19] <valorie> haven't a clue about that, tbh
[07:25] <greygan> what is the command to delete a file from terminal?
[07:26] <valorie> rm filename
[07:27] <greygan> ty
[07:27]  * valorie reboots
[07:30] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:32] <mmn_> lordeivader hi!
[07:32] <lordievader> Hey mmn_, how are you?
[07:39] <greygan> OK, I have to mount the drives in /media. How can I make the mount point folders there. Dolphin wont let me, and in terminal the mkdir command brings up a new line >
[07:40] <mmn_> maybe sudo mkdir ?
[07:40] <greygan> does the same thing with the new line >
[07:40] <mmn_> Lordievader: bad
[07:41] <mmn_> i can't install xorg-edit
[07:41] <greygan> well kdesudo does anyway. havent tried just sudo
[07:42] <lordievader> greygan: What are the permissions on the mount?
[07:42] <lordievader> mmn_: Have you tried apt?
[07:43] <mmn_> they just don't exist
[07:43] <mmn_> only deb
[07:43] <mmn_> and it doesn;t work
[07:43] <mmn_> it can't satisfy the dependencies
[07:43] <lordievader> mmn_: Ok, so you have deb, does "sudo dpkg -i <file.deb>" work?
[07:44] <greygan> I set the mounts up in fstab but created mount points in my home directory. I need them in /media and I can not create a folder there for the mount points
[07:44] <mmn_> one moment I;ll paste you the output
[07:46] <lordievader> greygan: That is probably true, a user has no write access to /media. Using "sudo mkdir <target>" should work, you can verify with "ls /media".
[07:46] <greygan> cool thanks
[07:48] <mmn_> hmm
[07:48] <mmn_> now my question is
[07:48] <greygan> I get the same thing when trying sudo mkdir. It just drops to a new line with the ">" sign
[07:48] <mmn_> how to install older version of a package
[07:48] <mmn_> than i have now
[07:48] <lordievader> greygan: mkdir doesn't output anything if there is no error.
[07:49] <mmn_> libwxgtk 2.8
[07:49] <greygan> but there is no new folder and instead of dropping me to a normal prompt I get >
[07:50] <mmn_> but i need a 2.6 version to install xorg-edit
[07:50] <greygan> i used command "sudo mkdir /media/newfoldername
[07:50] <lordievader> greygan: Hmm, that's odd. Could you pastebin that?
[07:50] <tsimpson> greygan: you should remove the first quote
[07:50] <greygan> I didnt use quote. sec Ill paste
[07:50] <lordievader> mmn_: I would do that through muon.
[07:51] <mmn_> how?
[07:51] <greygan> http://paste.kde.org/755474/
[07:52] <lordievader> mmn_: What version of the lib do you need?
[07:52] <mmn_> 2.6
[07:52] <tsimpson> greygan: you used a single-quote
[07:53] <lordievader> greygan: You need to escape the ', so "sudo mkdir Donna\'s"
[07:53] <tsimpson> you need to either escape it `sudo mkdir /media/Donna\'s` or quote it `sudo mkdir "/media/Donna's"`
[07:53] <lordievader> Euhmm ^ that.
[07:53] <greygan> ah
[07:53] <lordievader> !info libwxgtk2.6
[07:53] <lordievader> !info libwxgtk
[07:54] <lordievader> !info libwxgtk*
[07:54] <lordievader> In raring only 2.8 exists it seems.
[07:54] <mmn_> that sux
[07:55] <mmn_> I can't write xorg.conf by hands
[07:55] <mmn_> it's simply impossible
[07:55] <mmn_> and when i try2use Xorg -configure
[07:55] <mmn_> it gives me error
[07:55] <greygan> AWESOME guys thank you!
[07:56] <mmn_> and, by the way, there's still no nvidia in it;s drivers list
[07:57] <lordievader> mmn_: You are talking about this right: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=156243
[07:57] <lordievader> mmn_: You know it is a post from 2006, and probably not updated since?
[07:58] <mmn_> oops didn't notice it
[07:58] <mmn_> but anyway
[07:58] <lordievader> Ah nvm that. Last update is 2008.
[07:59] <mmn_> there must be a gui generator
[07:59] <lordievader> mmn_: Do you have version 08.08.06?
[07:59] <mmn_> however
[07:59] <lordievader> Err 07.08.11
[07:59] <mmn_> yes
[07:59] <mmn_> 07.08.11
[08:00] <lordievader> Hmm perhaps the source of 08.08.06 doesn't require libwxgtk2.6.
[08:00] <mmn_> anyway theres no nvidia driver in the list of Xorg -configure
[08:02] <lordievader> What do you mean with Xorg -configure?
[08:02] <lordievader> Btw nowadays xorg.conf is not used by default.
[08:09] <mmn_> hm ok, but how do i make my driver work without it?
[08:10] <lordievader> mmn_: What driver and what card are we talking about here?
[08:10] <mmn_> GeForce GT 630M
[08:10] <mmn_> (in my laptop)
[08:11] <mmn_> and it also has a built-in-CPU intel graphics card
[08:11] <mmn_> however a workin geforce will be more than enough for me
[08:12] <lordievader> Ugh, bumblebee (or however it is called). Most unfortunately I have no experience with such a setup, I know it is a hassle to get it working.
[08:12] <lordievader> mmn_: What does the jockey say?
[08:13] <mmn_> it says "This driver is activated, but not used now"
[08:13] <mmn_> not sure about "activated"
[08:13] <lordievader> mmn_: Is that the recommended driver?
[08:13] <mmn_> cos i have russian version
[08:13] <mmn_> It's the last one
[08:13] <mmn_> 319
[08:14] <mmn_> AFAIR thats the same version that is donlpoaded from nvidia com
[08:14] <mmn_> when i seltcted my video and OS in the lis
[08:15] <lordievader> You would say the folks at nVidia know what driver to use...
[08:15] <greygan> Thanks again to all who helped me. I finally got all of this working correctly and learned how to edit fstab in the process :)
[08:15] <mmn_> i thought - yes
[08:15] <mmn_> to optimistic?
[08:16] <mmn_> *to
[08:16] <mmn_> to
[08:16] <mmn_> too
[08:16] <FloodBotK1> mmn_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:16] <mmn_> oops
[08:17] <lordievader> mmn_: You could go experiment with the other drivers, you might just end up with a working geforce ;)
[08:17] <mmn_> i did already
[08:17] <lordievader> Though I have to say it is not risk free.
[08:18] <lordievader> Its an optimus thing right?
[08:19] <lordievader> If so take a look at this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[08:28] <mmn_> apt-get told me, that bumblebee is already installed
[08:29] <lordievader> mmn_: And the rest?
[08:29] <mmn_> u mean the other packages?
[08:29] <mmn_> Already
[08:30] <mmn_> virtualgl linux-headers-generic
[08:30] <mmn_> already installed too
[09:57] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[09:58] <BigWig_> Hey, my widget dashboard isn't transparent anymore. Anyone know of a fix?
[10:01] <BluesKaj> BigWig_, system settings>workspace appearance>desktop themes , get new themes , find one that you like
[10:07] <BigWig_> That didn't fix the problem. What's happening is that the dashboard (ctr+f12) isn't translucent anymore.
[10:13] <BluesKaj> oh sorry I misunderstood , never used the dashnoard before , just the panel options
[10:14] <BluesKaj> tool  box
[13:01] <gilles> Hello every body, I need help
[13:02] <JohnThePreacher> Repent now! For The Kingdom of Heaven is at HAND!
[13:02] <BluesKaj> JohnThePreacher, when do the spaceships arrive , and where ?
[13:03] <BluesKaj> gilles, ask your question
[13:03] <JohnThePreacher> BluesKaj, And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.
[13:05] <gilles> ok, I have a problem with grub : I have update the kernel with the 3.8.0-23 version and after the reboot only old kernel appear in the grub menu. Exemple 3.2.0-24
[13:05] <gilles> I look in the /boot/grub.cfg file and the 3.8.0-23 is present
[13:05] <gilles> What appends ?
[13:05] <BluesKaj> gilles, how did you update the kernel ?
[13:06] <BluesKaj> gilles, run sudo update-grub
[13:06] <gilles> with the package manager
[13:07] <gilles> I do update-grub a lot of time
[13:07] <gilles> and it find the new kernel
[13:09] <BluesKaj> 3.2 to 3.8 is quite a jump
[13:10] <gilles> it's because I update from 12.04 to 13.04
[13:15] <BluesKaj> gilles, how did you update ?
[13:16] <BluesKaj> 12.04>12.10>13.04 ?
[13:16] <gilles> I did an upgrade
[13:16] <gilles> yes BluesKay
[13:16] <BluesKaj> ok upgrade , sorry
[13:18] <gilles> It's possible the problem was present for a long time because when the computer start I don't read exactly the kernel number
[13:19] <BluesKaj> gilles, ok run sudo apt-get update:sudo apt-get distupgrade , then ,  sudo apt-get autoremove , then sudo apt-get autoclean
[13:19] <gilles> ok
[13:19] <BluesKaj> err dist-upgrade
[13:22] <BluesKaj> gilles, correction , sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:24] <gilles> yes because the first commande return an error
[13:24] <gilles> it's ok
[13:25] <gilles> what must I do now
[13:26] <BluesKaj> run the other autoremove and autoclean commands
[13:28] <gilles> done
[13:29] <BluesKaj> ok  gilles now try sudo update-grub
[13:30] <gilles> I have a kernel within
[13:30] <gilles> and a kernel more
[13:34] <gilles> could I reboot to see if there changes
[13:34] <BluesKaj> yes
[13:35] <GolligySutton> Yay! I'm a Xubuntu user NOW!
[13:35] <BluesKaj> I have to check my other OSs ...bbiab
[13:41] <gilles> I'm back BluesKaj, but there's no changes !
[13:42] <gilles> Is there a command to find the menu.cfg use by grub to boot ?
[14:09] <BluesKaj> gilles, is your new kernel available in grub now ?
[14:10] <gilles> unfortunately not, have you any idea
[14:10] <BluesKaj> can you see it ?
[14:19] <gilles> BluesKaj I find what's wrong. Grub load an old grub.cfg of an partition where is installed kubuntu 10.04
[14:19] <gilles> How can I setup grub to my new grub.cfg
[14:22] <BluesKaj> gilles, is your 13.04 on the first partition ?
[14:23] <gilles> it's complicated
[14:24] <gilles> I have 5 disk with 1 up to 5 partitions
[14:25] <BluesKaj> grub should be installed to the mbr of the front of the HDD , usually /dev/sda
[14:34] <BluesKaj> gilles, if your 13.04 is not located on on /dev/sda , then sudo grub-install /dev/sda should work
[14:50] <gilles> BluesKaj It's work   thanks a lot for your help
[16:00] <scherenhaenden> hello ppl...
[16:00] <lordievader> Hey scherenhaenden
[16:00] <scherenhaenden> i need help, im trying to get video on my computer after upgrading... but nothing, but it works good in live system....
[16:01] <scherenhaenden> but how ever i do... it does not works on my realsystem
[16:02] <lordievader> scherenhaenden: What video card do you have?
[16:02] <scherenhaenden> ati hd 4200
[16:03] <scherenhaenden> i know if i restard, i got no video... with lshw -c video it says that my display s being unclaimed
[16:03] <lordievader> Have you installed the closed source driver for it?
[16:03] <scherenhaenden> ive tried to installed anything... the closed, the open... but nothing
[16:04] <scherenhaenden> even... 13.04 has that configuration system for monitors in systemsettings... but i dont have it
[16:04] <scherenhaenden> i get always error
[16:05] <lordievader> What error?
[16:05] <scherenhaenden> by last time using sudo ./amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13.1-legacy-linux-x86.x86_64.run --buildandinstallpkg Ubuntu/raring --force
[16:05] <scherenhaenden> i got Error 2....
[16:05] <scherenhaenden> :S i cannot copy from console :S
[16:06] <lordievader> scherenhaenden: Have you tried the jockey?
[16:06] <scherenhaenden> well yes... but a long time ago i didnt
[16:07] <scherenhaenden> well
[16:07] <lordievader> You probable have a choice between fglrx and fglrx-updates. I'd say try fglrx-updates first.
[16:07] <lordievader> probably*
[16:07] <scherenhaenden> yep
[16:08] <scherenhaenden> but ive tried to install em a looooot of times
[16:08] <scherenhaenden> got nothing from jockey
[16:08] <scherenhaenden> even not the other drivers
[16:09] <scherenhaenden> i dont know what i got to do
[16:12] <scherenhaenden> it looks like it works with aptitude
[16:12] <lordievader> Is your card supported by the fglxr driver? (I mean the version you've downloaded from the ati website)
[16:13] <scherenhaenden> well officially yes... but not that kernel... but it could be working good with the driver from linux... but it also doesnt work
[16:14] <scherenhaenden> well... it works in live version but here... im not capable to install it
[16:15] <scherenhaenden> im gonna autosuicide to myself
[16:16] <scherenhaenden> it till says unclaimed
[16:19] <scherenhaenden> lordievader: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/fglrx_2%3a12.100~beta7-0ubuntu1~xedgers~raring1_amd64.deb: Unterprozess neues pre-installation-Skript gab den Fehlerwert 1 zurück
[16:21] <lordievader> You know xorg edgers is bleeding edge right?
[16:21] <scherenhaenden> what? i dont understand about what r u speaking sorry
[16:21] <scherenhaenden> what kind of edgers?
[16:21] <scherenhaenden> edgers ppa?
[16:21] <lordievader> scherenhaenden: It seems to me that you added the xorg edgers ppa.
[16:22] <scherenhaenden> ive added some ppa
[16:22] <scherenhaenden> but from amd i think
[16:22] <scherenhaenden> im trying to resolve here since manyhours ago
[16:22] <scherenhaenden> well since yesterday
[16:23] <lordievader> I'd recommend removing this xorg-edgers ppa.
[16:24] <scherenhaenden> how can i do that?
[16:25] <scherenhaenden> nop
[16:25] <scherenhaenden> i dont have ppa from xorg
[16:27] <lordievader> Hmm, unfortunately I have to say that I do not know how to proceed. Sorry.
[16:28] <scherenhaenden> fgl_glxgears works
[16:28] <scherenhaenden> :S
[16:28] <scherenhaenden> is that normal?
[16:29] <lordievader> scherenhaenden: Yes, the cpu might even render that.
[16:29] <scherenhaenden> mm, oh man i dont know what to do
[16:30] <lordievader> Wait a minute, do you mean fglrx_glxgear?
[16:30] <scherenhaenden> yep
[16:30] <lordievader> Ok, do you have amdcccle on your pc, and does it not give you an error when you fire it up?
[16:31] <scherenhaenden> lordievader: ive tried to installed but nothing
[16:34] <scherenhaenden> everywhere says i got to deinstall doing sudo sh /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh
[16:34] <scherenhaenden> but i got error for that
[16:34] <lordievader> scherenhaenden: What error?
[16:34] <scherenhaenden> im trying to copy him over here
[16:53] <scherenhaenden> lordievader: IT LOOKS LIKE I DID IT
[16:53] <scherenhaenden> but ive fear about reboot
[16:54] <lordievader> What did you do?
[17:01] <scherenhaenden> dont know... im on the graphics but till not work
[17:01] <scherenhaenden> know id like to remove the flgrx n try to install that xorg driv
[17:02] <scherenhaenden> do u know how to install the default driver ?
[17:35] <puff> Heya... I was on kubuntu on 12. L04TÃSÃ.  I just intalled 13ubuntu 13.4 and the installed kubuntu-desktop, ld in with theDE PlasmaÃa manager... this is very different from my old kubuntu desktop.  Did things change or is there something I need to install/set to make it more like my old UI?
[17:36] <puff> For example, I'm pretty sure I was using a different terminal app, which is pretty important for me because I use a lot of shell and ssh,  vt100 emulation on remote boxes, etc.
[17:37] <ed356> hi, anyone know why after formating my usb flash drive (corsair 16gb) from fat32 to ntfs I got two partitions, one the ntfs partition, the other is "unallocated" which is 4mb in size, is this normal?
[17:38] <lordievader> ed356: I think so, seen it a number of times.
[17:39] <puff> Hm, I just noticed that under kde it's not auto-mounting my extra partition.
[17:39] <puff> Is there an easy/gui way to do it, or do I need to mount them manually?
[17:40] <lordievader> puff: You can mount partitions through 'dolphin', the file-manager.
[17:40] <puff> Hm, under dolphin the extra partition does show up, but not in "df -h" or "mount" output.
[17:41] <lordievader> puff: Is it mounted?
[17:41] <puff> Ah, it's mounted in /media/_mcgee
[17:41] <ed356> lordievader ok thanks
[17:41] <puff> Weird.
[17:41] <puff> Can I have my old kubuntu back? :-)
[17:42] <lordievader> For 12.04 there are still a couple of supported years left ;)
[17:43] <puff> lordievader: Yeah... I was told in the past that it is okay to just install mainstream ubuntu and then apt-get kubuntu-desktoip, is this still the case?
[17:44] <puff> In other words, 13.4 + kubuntu-desktop doesn't look like my old kubuntu UI, is that because kubuntu changed or because I didn't do it right?
[17:44] <lordievader> Raring is very stable, heck even Saucy is stable (though I do not recommend to install Saucy ;) )
[17:45] <puff> I'm not sure what terminal I was using previously, but ctrl-shift-t would open a new terminal tab, ctrl-pgup/pgdwn would cycle through the tabs...
[17:45] <lordievader> KDE 4.10 is a bit more flashy than KDE 4.8 (Not sure if Precise has 4.8, but it was something along those lines), is that what you mean?
[17:46] <lordievader> puff: Konsole still has those functions :)
[17:46] <puff> lordievader: Well, alt-tab does this fancy 3D carousel of screens, terminal doesn't seem to work the same, etc.
[17:46] <puff> I'm in konsole and ctrl-pgup and ctrl-pgdwn aren't cycling me through the tabs.
[17:47] <lordievader> puff: That sounds like a non-standard setup...
[17:47] <ahoneybun> lordievader: precise has 4.8 but 4.10 is in the backports
[17:47] <ahoneybun> 4.10.3 I believe
[17:47] <puff> lordievader:  It's just a 13.4 install plus apt-get kubuntu-destop
[17:48] <ahoneybun> puff: you can install any desktop you want on any ubutnu
[17:50] <puff> ahoneybun: Yeah, I'm just trying to figure out if this is easily fixable or not.
[17:50] <ahoneybun> puff: what happened?
[17:51] <lordievader> puff: Did you install with an existing /home?
[17:51] <puff> ahoneybun: I installed the normal ubuntu 13.4 raring, then did apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, and the UI is throwing me off.
[17:51] <puff> lordievader: Yes.
[17:51] <lordievader> I.e. did a kde profile exist before you installed raring over it.
[17:51] <ahoneybun> puff: can you provide screenshots?
[17:51] <puff> lordievader: Wait... I have a vanilal 13.4, and then did apt-get install kubuntu-desktop.  I have my old /home mounted as a separate partition so I can get at my old data files.
[17:52] <puff> ahoneybun: Sure, what of?
[17:52] <ahoneybun> puff: just of the problems that you are seeing
[17:52] <puff> ahoneybun: It's more that certain keyboard shortcuts don't seem to work.
[17:52] <puff> I'm very, very keyboard driven...
[17:52] <ahoneybun> oh ok
[17:53] <ahoneybun> well you can change that
[17:53] <stardolphin> my music plays back at 50% higher speed appx. Don't know what triggered the change or how to fix in Kubuntu 13.04
[17:53] <puff> ahoneybun: E.g. in my terminal I'm used to ctrl-pageup/pagedown cycling through the terminal tabs.  I'm running console and contorl-shift-t opens a new tab, but ctrl-pageup/pagedown don't work.
[17:53] <lordievader> stardolphin: Does that happen when you open skype?
[17:54] <stardolphin> pandora, youtube basically any flash-driven program Chrome is up to date, not using skype (ick)
[17:54] <lordievader> stardolphin: Hmm, too bad. I had a similair problem once, everything would speed up if skype was opened.
[17:55] <stardolphin> all i can think of is k3b might have done something, only idea i have
[18:00] <stardolphin> thank you, lordievader. Will keep searching. Will consider full blown re-install if necessary.
[18:02] <ahoneybun> puff: you can edit keyboard shortcuts in the system settings
[18:05] <puff> ahoneybun: Yeah, I just wanted to start by making sure I'd done it right.
[18:06] <ahoneybun> puff: yea just install the kubuntu-desktop package
[18:06] <puff> ahoneybun: I did.
[18:06] <ahoneybun> ok good
[18:45] <tumor> xx
[18:50] <m0nk3yjoe> What is the command to disable a service?  I tried update-rc.d and it doesn't work for Bluetooth
[18:51] <m0nk3yjoe> I want to remove bluetooth and IPP
[18:52] <lordievader> m0nk3yjoe: update-rc.d is used to remove things from init. To stop a service you can use: sudo service <service-name> stop
[18:52] <m0nk3yjoe> lordievader, I know how to stop a service.  I want to REMOVE it from starting the first place
[18:53] <m0nk3yjoe> like chkconfig does on RHEl
[18:54] <tumor130> holas
[18:54] <lordievader> m0nk3yjoe: Ah, yes for that update-rc.d is indeed used, IIRC: sudo update-rc.d -f remove <service-name>
[18:58] <m0nk3yjoe> lordievader, I did sudo update-rc.d -r bluetooth remove and it says it removed them and then stopped the services.  Thanks! =)
[19:02] <m0nk3yjoe> lordievader, I thought with the move to upstart we didn't use rc.d scripts anymore.  Am I incorrect?
[19:03] <lordievader> m0nk3yjoe: That is something I do not know.
[19:32] <F41l> Quick question, I have kmail, and every time I try to open a link, it screams at me about missing rekonq (which I removed in favor of firefox) any idea how I can make it discontinue this annoyance?
[19:59] <jacklk> good evening
[19:59] <jacklk> Can someone help me with an issue?
[20:01] <jacklk> Anyone?
[20:07] <Snowhog> jacklk: Just state your question.
[20:10] <jacklk> Snowhog: Now?
[20:11] <F41l> Quick question, I have kmail, and every time I try to open a link, it screams at me about missing rekonq (which I removed in favor of firefox) any idea how I can make it discontinue this annoyance?
[20:13] <Snowhog> F41l: System Settings > File Associations > text > html and move (or remove) rekong from the Application Preference Order list and ensure that firefox is at the top.
[20:14] <jacklk> Snowhog: okay
[20:15] <jacklk> so bascially, what i need is
[20:56] <GEO48> hi, I have downloaded those files: http://sourceforge.net/projects/biblatex-biber/files/biblatex-biber/1.6/binaries/Linux/ after unpacking executing them does nothing
[20:56] <GEO48> could anybody download them and try to execute the files? I don't know where the problem could be
[20:57] <GEO48> ./biber --help should at least output sth.
[21:03] <GEO48> output of strace biber: http://pastebin.com/X0tC5ABz
[21:12] <seth> hi
[22:18] <greygan> Hey guys, After installing "additional drivers" for my graphics card. I am seeing some errors flash by at shutdown and boot up as well as my boot time has increased drasticaly. Where can I find these error logs?
[22:32] <Senjai> What version of gvim do I install for KDE


[18:57] <mwhudson> morning
[19:07] <ibeardslee> morning
[19:10] <ajmitch> morning
[19:42] <Atamira> mornin
[20:15] <thumper> morning
[20:43] <chrismsnz> morning


[01:10] <laga> iostat 1 > log
[01:10] <laga> gah
[01:11] <laga> sorry about that. i was gonna get some logs while my box was terribly lagging and got the wrong window on accident
[01:23] <zul> #133636
[01:24] <bdmurray> bug 133636
[01:24] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 133636 in linux-source-2.6.22 "[gutsy]  hdaps module does not load on Thinkpad T61P" [Low,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133636
[01:25] <bdmurray> It is the one you already fixed but I think some other models were mentioned in later comments
[01:26] <zul> *sigh* they should have opened other bug reports
[01:26] <bdmurray> heh
[01:26] <bdmurray> If only
[01:31] <zul> bug #133636
[01:31] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 133636 in linux-source-2.6.22 "[gutsy]  hdaps module does not load on Thinkpad T61P" [Low,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133636
[01:44] <TheMuso> c
[01:44] <TheMuso> ugh
[01:58] <osmosis> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-meta/+bug/147014
[01:58] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 147014 in linux-meta "linux-image-xen on amd64 not detected by update-grub." [Undecided,New]
[03:11] <bdmurray> zul: I don't see the R41 listed in the Gutsy git tree for hdaps
[03:19] <zul> damnt i could have sworn I seen it
[03:19] <bdmurray> I did look before I mentioned it. ;)
[03:21] <zul> which bug report is that?
[03:23] <bdmurray> bug 145877
[03:23] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 145877 in linux-source-2.6.22 "hdaps doesn't work on Thinkpad R61" [Undecided,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/145877
[03:23] <mjg59> R41? I'm not convinced there was one.
[03:24] <zul> bdmurray, that was for an r61
[03:25] <bdmurray> right, so my first statement should have been R61
[03:25] <zul> yeah my bad
[03:25] <bdmurray> and now I'm wrong
[03:26] <zul> i changed the status
[03:26] <zul> ../patches/0004-UBUNTU-hdaps-Add-support-for-Thinkpad-R61.patc
[03:26] <bdmurray> Hrm, I do see R61 in the git tree
[03:26] <zul> hasnt been added yet..
[03:26] <zul> ill be sending the patches tonight before I got to bed ;)
[03:27] <bdmurray> Okay, but I really see R61 at http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-gutsy.git;a=blob;h=bf21111a81f6756b95fdbd115d797980284c6ce7;hb=d05017ef5f9dabd13f0bba3df74b9d8832d7e40f;f=drivers/hwmon/hdaps.c
[03:30] <zul> meh..
[05:17] <RobertStuffers> there can be only one kernal !
[05:56] <osmosis> hi
[06:09] <osmosis> cool man, well let me know if there is anything I can do. Im willing do learn stuff if needed.
[06:09] <osmosis>  the xen kernel on gutsy amd64 isnt recognized as a valid kernel by grub.
[06:12] <rtg__> osmosis: zul is the xen master.
[06:12] <zul> rtg__: im talking to him about it already ;)
[06:13] <osmosis> rtg__: yah, but he says  "that grub error has to do with the meta package which something i dont have control over"
[06:14] <zul> actually its probably update-grub that is erroring out
[06:14] <osmosis> zul: true, but even when I manually put the kernel into grub... thats when I get the error 13 on boot...invalid executable.
[06:14] <osmosis> zul: update-grub just doesnt put it in the menu.lst, probably can tell its not valid.
[06:14] <zul> ok intresting
[06:17] <bdmurray> rtg__: Should I bring any last minute kernel bugs to your attention?
[06:17] <rtg__> only if I know how to fix 'em :)
[06:18] <bdmurray> That's all of them right?
[06:18] <zul> hehe
[06:23] <bdmurray> bug 147858
[06:23] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 147858 in linux-source-2.6.22 "western digital WD800ADFS ncq problems" [Medium,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/147858
[06:25] <rtg__> bdmurray: its too late to be mucking around in core disk stuff. Remember the lib-pata snafu?
[06:26] <zul> rtg__: that should be just blacklisting the drive
[06:26] <bdmurray> I read that as just black listing a drive?
[06:27] <rtg__> you are right. Can someone develop a patch?
[06:27] <zul> bdmurray: assign me the bug ill send a patch tonight
[06:28] <bdmurray> done
[06:28] <zul> thanks
[07:09] <zul> rtg__: do you want me to send the patch to the kernel-team ml?
[07:19] <evand> Not sure how much it will help, but I just ran into another unionfs bug: http://people.ubuntu.com/~evand/tmp/unionfs-oct1-syslog
[07:52] <BenC> evand: we're in the process of fixing that problem, but thanks
[07:53] <evand> anytime, thanks for looking into it
[07:57] <rtg__> zul: I see that you have.
[07:57] <ScottK> BenC: I've had a persistent fan problem with Gutsy (Bug #127772).  Are we past the point where fixes for problems like this will be considered?
[07:57] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 127772 in linux-source-2.6.22 "CPU fan no longer runs after upgrade to Gutsy" [Medium,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/127772
[07:58] <BenC> ScottK: is there a fix?
[07:59] <ScottK> BenC: Not that I know of.  I'm a user as far as the kernel goes.
[07:59] <BenC> ScottK: then we can't put a fix in yet :)
[08:00] <ScottK> BenC: Of course.  But if we're past the point where a fix could go in, then I'll stop trolling for a kernel hacker to help me figure it out.
[08:00] <BenC> ScottK: it's possible, but all depends on timing and severity
[08:00] <ScottK> BenC: Thanks.
[08:06] <ScottK> I suspect that the problem centers around /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/cooling_mode changing from "cooling mode:	active" to "0 - Active; 1 - Passive" from Feisty to Gutsy, but I have no idea where to look for how that got changed or where to change it back.  Hints from anyone would be appreciated.
[08:09] <rtg__> ScottK: mjg59 is our ACPI expert. perhaps he has some ideas.
[08:09] <ScottK> rtg__: Thanks.
[08:10] <mjg59> The only thing influencing fan control is the kernel
[08:54] <Lutin> hi there
[09:58] <Lutin> any chance that someone take a look at bug #129910 ?
[09:58] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 129910 in initramfs-tools "tty[1-6]  are active but display nothing in Gutsy" [High,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129910
[10:21] <Al1i>  /join ubuntu+1
[10:48] <bdmurray> rtg__: What does it mean if someone has to boot with all_generic_ide ?
[11:32] <pkern> Is there something speaking against a SLAB kernel flavour apart from the fact that it may be too late?
[11:39] <amitk> pkern: buggy?
[11:43] <pkern> amitk: A proven allocator is buggy? Fun.
[11:44] <pkern> Seriously. fglrx is suggested on laptops but breaks on suspend. "We depend on ATI." is IMHO not that valid as it's a regression over Feisty.
[11:44] <pkern> People start to build their own kernels because of this which is at least annoying.
[11:47] <lamont> pkern: I have a laptop where I've blacklisted fglrx so that I can have suspend
[11:47] <amitk> pkern: http://lwn.net/Articles/229984/
[11:47] <pkern> amitk: I read LWN, kthx
[11:48] <pkern> lamont: Possible solution as I currently don't need working 3D acceleration. But then there are users which depend on it (for whatever reason).
[11:49] <pkern> amitk: I don't say "let's switch back" but "provide a new flavour and document it properly".
[11:49] <lamont> ah, then in that case, you get to choose whether you want 3D or suspend
[11:49] <pkern> Maybe I should add a "anymore" here.
[11:49] <lamont> until such time as we get a working fglrx driver binary blob.  go closed source!
[11:50] <lamont> what would the flavor do differently?
[11:50] <pkern> There will be free drivers. Maybe for Hardy.
[11:50] <kylem> provide a new flavour?
[11:50] <pkern> lamont: Use SLAB instead of SLUB.
[11:50] <kylem> you mean provide 4 new flavours.
[11:50] <lamont> ah, that.
[11:50] <pkern> lamont: The driver works fine with 2.6.22, but with SLAB instead of SLUB.
[11:51] <lamont> I see.
[11:51] <amitk> pkern: considering that kernel freeze is tomorrow, this discussion is moot
[11:51] <pkern> amitk: It's not that I haven't spoke up earlier.
[11:52] <pkern> lamont: fglrx is even suggested by a nice shiny popup for `more performance' or whatever it states.
[11:52] <lamont> mk
[11:52] <pkern> lamont: That's one of the key critisism I have here. But if X works properly with fglrx kernel module blacklisted...
[11:53] <pkern> Point is that at least my card is not supported by the free drivers.
[11:53] <pkern> (For Gutsy that is.)
[11:53] <lamont> pkern: works for me...
[11:53] <pkern> lamont: Ok.
[11:53] <kylem> so what's the problem? does it panic?
[11:53] <lamont> of course, I also turn of compiz because I have better things for it to do.
[11:53] <pkern> kylem: Suspend hangs with a blinking cursor.
[11:54] <lamont> kylem: fails to suspend
[11:54] <pkern> lamont: Compiz does not work for fglrx out of the box.
[11:54] <lamont> and then you reboot
[11:54] <lamont> pkern: I'm fine with that. :-)
[11:54] <kylem> if that's the best you can do for debugging information, then i'm afraid i'm just going to point and laugh.
[11:54] <pkern> lamont: Me too.
[11:54] <pkern> Bah. Please.
[11:55] <lamont> kylem: when I was troubleshooting why suspend didn't work with mjg59, we got to the point where he learned that fglrx was loaded and he said "don't do that. kthxbye"
[11:55] <lamont> so that was where I stopped
[11:55] <pkern> Kernel devs also responded that SLUB is correct and they won't support it.
[11:55] <pkern> It's ATI's fault and we know that, but this is not the point here.
[11:55] <kylem> the only issue i know of with slub, is that it warns if you double free a pointer.
[11:56] <lamont> kylem: and that ati calls it wrong, apparenlty.
[11:56] <lamont> for some value of "wrong"
[11:56] <kylem> well, comment out that check, and if it works, and you can tell me in the next 30 minutes, maybe i'll consider it.
[11:58] <kylem> sorry, it warns on 0-sized allocations, not double free.
[11:59] <pkern> When it only warns that should not pose a problem?
[12:00] <kylem> you'd think.
[12:01] <pkern> I think the problem are some weird semantics ATI relies on, but I am currently looking for the part to comment out.
[12:01] <kylem> well, if they do broken things like that with the allocator, then it's clearly a derived work.
[12:01] <kylem> ;-)
[12:03] <pkern> The point is that I don't know how to debug it. The display goes black.
[12:03] <pkern> i.e. even debug output would not help
[12:03] <pkern> And I don't see a printk for a zero-length alloc.
[12:03] <pkern> Hm, object_err...
[12:04] <kylem> maybe they removed it.
[12:05] <pkern> There are things like Alignment padding checks and something about "red zones".
[12:06] <pkern> It's just a pity when you know that with SLAB it works fine.
[12:07] <mjg59> Sounds like SLUB works fine
[12:07] <mjg59> It's the thing we don't have the source to that isn't
[12:07] <kylem> well, i'm not the only ubuntu kernel person, but it sure won't be me who reverts to slab.
[12:08] <pkern> mjg59: If you tell me that there is a free driver for X1400 in Gutsy I will gladly move to that one instead.
[12:09] <mjg59> I thought we'd established you don't need to use the kernel module?
[12:09] <pkern> mjg59: Still doesn't solve the source problem, but ok. ;)
[12:10] <mjg59> It means that you don't have kernel problems caused by the thing we can't debug, so...
[12:14] <pkern> Ok, it worked now but it showed a "your computer failed to suspend" bubble afterwards.
[12:14] <pkern> But nevermind that \:
[12:17] <elmo> btw, is there any 'how to debug suspend' failures (where by 'debug' I mean provide enough info for someone else to debug) page somewhere?
[12:18] <elmo> my laptop only suspends on AC, breaks on battery
[12:19] <mjg59> Basically, no
[12:19] <elmo> mjg59: ok, so when are you next visiting millbank? :-P
[12:19] <mjg59> Not in the near future
[12:19] <mjg59> You going to be in Boston?
[12:19] <elmo> yeah
[12:20] <mjg59> Yeah, so only three and a half weeks away
[12:20] <mjg59> That's kind of weird, though
[12:20] <mjg59> I can't think of any obvious reasons for that
[12:24] <amitk> elmo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspend That's the best we have
[12:24] <lamont> I much prefer the implicit howto:  1) take laptop to mjg59. 2) procure beverages 3) profit.
[12:26] <amitk> hmm.. new marketing slogan for Ubuntu - "Ships with mjg59" (TM)
[12:27] <pkern> mjg59: Ok, I got your point wrt debugging looking at that page.
[12:36] <bdmurray> Could somebody look at 129910?


[19:35] <chilts> morning
[20:49] <ibeardslee> morning
[20:53] <ajmitch> morning
[21:12] <lifeless> moin


[06:03] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[06:43] <Knightwise> hey brobostigon
[06:43] <Knightwise> how did the hunt go ?
[06:43] <brobostigon> hunt?
[06:43] <brobostigon> oh yes, a few possibilities.
[06:44] <brobostigon> but not there yet, the finances need working out.
[06:45] <Knightwise> good luck dude   make the banks smile upon ypur groveling with kindness and generosity
[06:46] <brobostigon> thats going to be the challange.
[06:48] <Knightwise> make sure you have a good business plan
[06:49] <brobostigon> its about half written right now, still loads to do.
[06:49] <Knightwise> make it watertight  they use bad business plans to bugg out of a loan
[06:50] <brobostigon> yes, i am going to have people read it and check it after i have written it, to check it over, and by people who work in business to check it all over.
[06:51] <Knightwise> also ask people that are NOT your friend  they are going to be more objective
[06:52] <brobostigon> yes, exactly, thats the plan.
[06:57] <Knightwise> im off for the day  see you laterz
[06:57] <brobostigon> o/


[01:43] <Louchebem> Bonsoirs, ya t'il des gens qui pourais m'aide car j'ai un problemme pour installer mon wifi sur mon linux xubuntu 10.11 ? je suis nouveau
[01:45] <Unit193> !fr
[01:45] <Louchebem> okays merci
[03:10] <sp4z> Hi, I have the following problem when connecting to a cisco vpn using VPNC and trying to ping anything in the new network "ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted" cant ssh or anything
[03:11] <sp4z> anyone know how to fix?
[03:12] <holstein> you've checked http://blog.technogeek.biz/2009/05/ping-sendmsg-operation-not-permitted-in.html and other places?
[03:13] <sp4z> holstein, yep
[03:13] <holstein> any further errors?
[03:14] <sp4z> holstein, ipmasq is not a command on my system
[03:25] <zhuang> Why can't I see my programs that are currently open in the taskbar?
[03:29] <holstein> maybe you got rid of the area that displays open applications... maybe you are on a different desktop and have it setup where you can only see the ones running on the others...
[03:30] <zhuang> i do have other desktops than XFCE...gnome, scrotwm and a few others that I can access through gdm...
[03:30] <zhuang> is this what you are referring to?
[03:30] <holstein> nope... workspaces... virtual desktops... whatever you want to call them
[03:30] <zhuang> nope
[03:31] <holstein> OK.. then you have removed the open application viewer
[03:31] <zhuang> actually, when I roll my scroll on my mouse, i go from my open windows to my desktop
[03:31] <zhuang> oh
[03:31] <zhuang> k
[03:31] <holstein> yup... you go to other virtual desktops... that can be it
[03:31] <holstein> if you dont use them, get rid of them
[03:32] <zhuang> okay, i have my workspaces set to 1 now
[03:33] <zhuang> uhm, for whatever reason, after doing alt+f2, and typing in xfce4-panel
[03:33] <zhuang> and running it, i still dont see anything that displays my open applications
[03:34] <holstein> OK.. its something you can add or remove from the panel
[03:34] <zhuang> if it makes any difference, i downloaded the xubuntu de from ubuntu software center while i was in the GNOMEclassic DE, then when I was prompted to choose the setup, I chose my custom open, and it created 1 panel for me
[03:34] <holstein> i would suggest either loading up the live CD, or making a new user account.. look in there and learn about what you need to have for that functionality
[03:34] <zhuang> well i'm currently on firefox searching but i haven't been able to find anything
[03:35] <McGuyver> on my panel it's called "Window Buttons"
[03:37] <zhuang> just tried xfce4 --replace in alt+f2 because a user on xubuntu forums is having the same problem...no dice
[03:38] <holstein> zhuang: correct.. its something that has been removed from the panel
[03:38] <holstein> restarting or starting the panel wont help since its not containing that functionality in the current state
[03:38] <zhuang> ah, i see. can't replace something that isnt even there...
[03:38] <zhuang> ye
[03:38] <holstein> you can see the default layout in the live CD, or in a new user account though
[03:39] <zhuang> brb
[03:57] <lighta> hoi
[03:57] <lighta> hey there no ant channel ?
[04:02] <holstein> ant?
[04:48] <newguy> Hi all
[05:23] <beata> Heya, I'm going to look into it more tomorrow (near bedtime): I have display corruption on shutdown, on two different systems. I'll need to check if it does it with a plain install. Just wondered if any y'all had it happen.
[06:28] <dbb> hi all - I just wanted to share with you the good news, that the XUbuntu-based OSGeo Live Disk v5.5 has gone golden master.. due to be handed out to most attendees at 10 international conferences in the next 6 months, so I hear.. thanks XUbuntu
[06:44] <nanotube> dbb: nice! :)
[08:23] <NyLes> hi, how will i know if Xubuntu is using the right driver for my video card?
[08:47] <well_laid_lawn> NyLes: lspci | grep -i vga   will tell what card it is and then check /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see what driver is being used
[09:27] <NyLes> hi, i have an ATI video card, and Ubuntu only use vesa, how will  i force ubuntu to use ati driver?
[09:28] <TheSheep> !ati
[11:03] <NyLes> help, I've tried glxgears and the highest FPS is only 53.. what am i missing?
[11:21] <bazhang> NyLes, a good video card
[11:36] <NyLes> !ati
[12:07] <Kingsy> guys, how do you change file associations in xubuntu ?
[12:10] <Starn> i know.. this is not the right place that #windows probably is.. but i confused them or they confused me.. one of the two.. i am wanting to add a bash command i guess into the windows terminal..  i just wanna run irssi without having to type cd C:\irssi\   than ./irssi-cmd.bat   just to load it... i would much rather do like in xubuntu and type irssi  than it load.. like magic..
[12:10] <Starn> i am hoping some one uses windows and is good at it.. and uses xubuntu.. to understand what i just said.
[12:11] <Kingsy> a bash command? you mean add irssi to the path? can you even run irssi on windows?
[12:12] <Starn> yeah they have a native port on windows i am actually using it.. almost half the apps i use on xubuntu is on windows even gedit and nano..
[12:12] <Starn> even my music player clementine.
[12:13] <Starn> pretty shocking huh Kingsy ? it's the beauty of open source.. often works on all OS's..
[12:13] <Kingsy> anyway, just add the binary to your windows path so you can run it with "irssi"
[12:13] <Kingsy> haha yeah
[12:14] <Starn> Kingsy: how do i do that?? i don't know anything about windows in this department :( also would it be possible for you to pm me or explain in #windows so we don't get into trouble? lol
[12:15] <Kingsy> Starn: yeah this isnt the place .. I would google it
[12:16] <Starn> google gave me a list of very confusing stuff.. ugh... linux so much easier ..
[13:02] <Thermi> whoever manages http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/oneiric/release/ ... SHAME ON YOU!
[13:03] <Starn> what for Thermi ?
[13:03] <Thermi> try to download a torrent.
[13:03] <Thermi> just try.
[13:03] <Thermi> the .torrent file.
[13:03] <Thermi> it will give you an error
[13:03] <Starn> <--- in windows.. scared to get a virus.
[13:04] <Thermi> oh
[13:04] <Thermi> isos don't work
[13:04] <Thermi> but .torrents do now
[13:04] <Thermi> what. the .fuck
[13:04] <bazhang> Thermi, no cursing here
[13:04] <Thermi> sry
[13:04] <Starn> i don't.. yeah ok bazhang just said it nvm.. was going to say i don't think we're allowed to say things like that.
[13:05] <Pici> Whats the issue.  I can download the torrent file itself just fine here.
[13:05] <bazhang> works perfectly here Thermi
[13:06] <Starn> so no virus? if not i can test as well
[13:06] <bazhang> no virus
[13:07] <Pici> Why would there be a virus on a file hosted on one of the main Ubuntu mirrors?
[13:07] <Starn> i don't know i just now noticed it was on the main mirrors...
[13:07] <Starn> Thermi: it works just fine.. even a very fast download speed..
[13:08] <Starn> do you have your torrent client setup correctly? as well as fwd'ed ports if needed?
[13:08] <bazhang> yep, maxing my dl speed
[13:09] <Starn> appears to have a lot of seeders.. Thermi what torrent program are you using maybe someone can help make sure it's setup properly?
[13:13] <Starn> hey bazhang you any good configuring sound under xubuntu?
[13:16] <Thermi> Starn the problem was, that there were .iso files in the same directory, so i first tried those, but it failed.
[13:17] <Thermi> Why can i even see them if they aren't supposed to be downloaded=
[13:17] <Thermi> ?
[13:20] <Starn> umm? i'm not 100% sure what you asked Thermi. but if i understood.. it's because your os displays files in the middle of being downloaded.. and also saves portions of the files even when canceled?
[13:20] <Thermi> no
[13:20] <Thermi> you got it wrong
[13:20] <Thermi> i'm talking about http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/oneiric/release/
[13:21] <Starn> yes.. and the .torrent works just fine.
[13:21] <Thermi> the .iso files give me Forbidden.
[13:21] <Thermi> Why am I seeing them, if i'm not supposed to try to download them?
[13:21] <Thermi> and why are they even there
[13:21] <Starn> it's probably so the .torrent can access the files.
[13:22] <Starn> the files have to be seeded from somewhere before anyone else can seed.
[13:22] <Thermi> you mean the server torrent.ubuntu.com is also a seeder for the torrent?
[13:22] <Starn> i believe so.
[13:22] <Thermi> well that makes sense then
[13:22] <Starn> it's how blizzard works for their torrent downloads.
[13:23] <Starn> it just saves bandwidth to have more seeders for the original seed.
[13:26] <Starn> hey in irssi how do i close a channel?? i kinda have a lot of channels.....
[13:28] <Pici> /wc to close a window
[13:28] <Starn> thanks Pici.
[15:33] <xsl> is there a way to define the positioning of a panel that does not use positioning="x=number y=number" but use positioning"x=bottom y=bottom"
[16:03] <kuldeepdhaka> what is the minimum hdd size require for xubuntu installation....
[16:03] <kuldeepdhaka> what is the minimum hdd size require for xubuntu installation?
[16:03] <holstein> i would say 8gb's would be comfortable.. i would think fitting on 4gb's would be tight
[16:04] <kuldeepdhaka> will it fit on a 4gb pendrive
[16:04] <holstein> you can try it.. i think it'll be tight
[16:05] <holstein> im not a big fan of the persistent live usb installs, but that might be an excellent case for one
[16:05] <kuldeepdhaka> is there any linux that is graphical ,user friendly  and can run on a thin client
[16:06] <kuldeepdhaka> want to use thin client as os
[16:06] <kuldeepdhaka> personal computr
[16:06] <holstein> depends on the hardware what performance you should get, but id say any should do the job
[16:07] <kuldeepdhaka> 1Ghz processor, vio ,,,1gb harddisk,512 mb ram
[16:08] <holstein> sure.. it wont matter the specs so much as the specific hardware vendors and driver support... its just a computer for all intents and purposes.. the fact that its a "thin client" wont matter
[16:08] <kuldeepdhaka> will xubuntu will install on 3.8 GB
[16:09] <holstein> kuldeepdhaka: you can try it... i would want 6+gb's
[16:09] <holstein> you can always do the live persistent thing which should be a little bigger than the iso image
[16:09] <holstein> or, just get a bigger USB stick for cheap
[16:09] <kuldeepdhaka> ok
[16:10] <kuldeepdhaka> is thr any other linux that can work
[16:11] <holstein> kuldeepdhaka: sure.. *any* should work
[16:14] <kuldeepdhaka> i need a linux that can work like os[ubuntu,fedora,debian] but have light graphics and can fit on a 3.8 gb Stick...
[16:16] <holstein> kuldeepdhaka: cool.. if you do a live persistent install and *any* of those.. that should be slightly larger than the downloaded iso image, which should be around 700mb's.. OR you can try something like puppy linux or knoppix.. literally *any* of them should work with that hardware, and all of the run live
[16:17] <holstein> i say try them live, and install.. you wont break any USB sticks trying to install, and it shouldnt take long either (maybe even only 15 minutes)
[16:36] <kuldeepdhaka> holstein,
[16:37] <kuldeepdhaka> thnx
[16:37] <kuldeepdhaka> holstein, thank you
[17:58] <leo-unglaub> hi guys, witch backup toold do you reccoment for non-technical people like my mom
[17:58] <Sysi> deja-dup
[17:58] <leo-unglaub> normaly i use rsync, but in her case a versioning would be nice to
[17:59] <leo-unglaub> Sysi: is this tool working with thunar integration? or is it stand alone?
[18:00] <Sysi> separate app
[18:01] <leo-unglaub> okay, thanks!
[18:36] <lartza> How big of an upgrade will 12.04 be? Will it be seamless to upgrade?
[18:37] <lartza> I noticed I am always installing ubuntu and it's deriatives right before the next release...
[18:52] <beata> I end up doing much the same... then reverting back because they've done over the UI yet again. At least with xubuntu, even though I don't have the UI I want, I have one I can live with. ;)
[18:53] <ph0x1337> have internal mic issues on xubuntu 11.10
[20:47] <nelson8874> hi
[20:49] <baizon> hi hi
[20:52] <nelson8874> I have xubuntu 11.10. I changed the definitions of the mouse to move the slowest (definitions/definitions manager/mouse), but still i think it moves to fast. Is it possible to make it moves MORE slower?
[20:54] <nelson8874> I have xubuntu 11.10. I changed the definitions of the mouse to move the slowest (definitions/definitions manager/mouse), but still i think it moves to fast. Is it possible to make it moves MORE slower?
[21:39] <nelson8874> I have xubuntu 11.10. I changed the definitions of the mouse to move the slowest (definitions/definitions manager/mouse), but still i think it moves to fast. Is it possible to make it moves MORE slower?
[21:43] <nelson8874> please, someone?
[23:19] <ChristopherNg> knome: need to speak asap
[23:20] <ChristopherNg> let me know when you are there or i will need to send you a mail, you are tougher to get hold of than Obama.
[23:22] <Myrtti> ChristopherNg: it's 1.21AM in Finland...
[23:22] <ChristopherNg> Myrtti: he is finnish?
[23:22] <Myrtti> yup
[23:22] <ChristopherNg> I see thought he was american
[23:22] <ChristopherNg> where are you from?
[23:23] <ChristopherNg> well i guess europe aswell
[23:23] <ChristopherNg> just thought more americans here
[23:23] <Myrtti> Finland
[23:25] <GridCube> ChristopherNg, thats a pretty wrong guess :P
[23:38] <donavan01> so I switched over to xubuntu desktop and wondered if there is a way to get the icons off the desktop and just have them accessible from the launcher (ADW I think)
[23:38] <GridCube> ADW?
[23:39] <donavan01> what ever the launch at the bottom is ... reminds me of ADW from a few years back probably isnt
[23:44] <donavan01> my bad it was AWN not ADW ... too much time in android world I guess
[23:47] <GridCube> donavan01, its just a panel
[23:48] <GridCube> if you want more launchers on it, drag and drop from the drop down start menu to the panel
[23:49] <GridCube> you can configure the desktop to not show any icon whatsoever, but i usually let the automount icon on, just so when using a pendrive it appears on the desktops
[23:49] <donavan01> no its not the launcher that is the issue I didnt want the icons on my desktop I have a few drive partitions that I dont want to show up becasue there factory restore and my windows partition
[23:51] <GridCube> !fstab | edit fstab donavan01, adding the disks to automount on startup on some directory and they wont show up in the desktop anymore
[23:55] <knome> ChristopherNg, humm?
[23:55] <knome> Myrtti, are you suggesting i'm in bed at 1am?
[23:59] <Myrtti> yea
[23:59] <Myrtti> I am
[23:59] <Myrtti> gn


[06:25] <gax1985i> Hello folks. I have a quick question for you. Could you tell me which kernel is being used for Ubuntu Studio 20.04 ?
[06:25] <gax1985i> I am trying to decide between Pop! OS 20.04 and Ubuntu Studio 20.04. I will be using it for music production
[06:28] <gax1985i> Is it kernel version 5.4 (vanilla) ?
[19:59] <Artist1991> Could not find Wine Gecko. HTML rendering will be disabled.0009:err:mshtml:create_document_object Failed to init Gecko, returning CLASS_E_CLASSNOTAVAILABLE0009:err:msxml:doparse Failed to create parser context
[20:00] <Artist1991> How to install wine-gecko? I have trying to install lightroom using wine. this is the error "Could not find Wine Gecko. HTML rendering will be disabled.0009:err:mshtml:create_document_object Failed to init Gecko, returning CLASS_E_CLASSNOTAVAILABLE0009:err:msxml:doparse Failed to create parser context"
[20:02] <oerheks> !info wine-gecko
[20:02] <oerheks> !info wine-gecko bionic
[20:03] <oerheks> maybe you need to build it yourself https://wiki.winehq.org/Gecko#Building_Wine_Gecko
[20:04] <oerheks> i would install rawtherapee or darktable, as raw image editor
[20:05] <Artist1991> Its there on studio. but im not used it to it.
[20:05] <Artist1991> im a slow learner :(
[20:06] <oerheks> expand your experience :-)