[01:12] <jbernard> does anyone know what "owner" the cerficate for the dovecot-postfix package is generated with?
[01:14] <jbernard> ahh, $HOSTNAME
[01:25] <jbernard> does anyone know how to get dovecot-postfix to generate a certification with the FQDN and not just the host part?
[01:26] <jbernard> s/certification/certificate
[01:41] <moldy> jbernard: i suggest you generate your certs yourself :)
[02:36] <trimeta> Quick problem: sshfs is giving me an error reading "option allow_other only allowed if 'user_allow_other' is set in /etc/fuse.conf", even after I modified the specified file as requested and then logged out and logged back in.
[02:36] <trimeta> Is there something else I need to start, some module I need to remove and readd to the kernel?
[02:43] <trimeta> gpasswd -a <user> fuse was my problem.
[03:01] <maxagaz> is there a good alternative to bacula for server backups ?
[03:06] <twb> I use VCSs and rsnapshot.
[03:07] <twb> Amanda is mentioned a lot, usually in the context of "how the hell do I make amanda work?"
[03:31] <kpettit> Is there any virtualbox guest startup scripts?
[03:32] <twb> Try virt-manager
[03:32] <kpettit> I want a virtualbox vm to start like a init.d service but it doesn't seem virtualbox comes with any
[03:32] <twb> Maybe it has virtualbox support by now
[03:32] <kpettit> ok I'll take a look thanks
[03:34] <kpettit> nope, doesn't look like it
[03:39] <jumbers> I can't remember who it was that I was talking to earlier about my random server halts, but if anybody was curious, it turned out that one of the RAM sticks was faulty
[03:46] <twb> jumbers: were you the guy with the possibly dodgy switch?
[03:47] <jumbers> twb: Nah, just a faulty RAM stick that was causing halts after reboots
[03:48] <twb> Probably wasn't me, then
[04:15] <castis> question: trying to compile an old version of php5-ffmpeg. ./configure tells me use --enable-shared. where would i put that?
[04:22] <RoAkSoAx> castis,  './configure --enable-shared'
[04:35] <twb> castis: is there a good reason you're not using the standard packages?
[04:38] <Sam-I-Am> jumbers: nice.
[04:38] <jumbers> Sam-I-Am: Aha, thanks for the halps
[04:38] <Sam-I-Am> sure
[04:38] <castis> i looked around a whole lot. in trying to compile php5-ffmpeg v0.5.1 i get " ffmpeg headers not found. Make sure ffmpeg is compiled as shared libraries using the --enable-shared option" so my original question was a bit misleading.
[04:38] <Sam-I-Am> castis: so the way that works is you get to compile all the dependencies first
[04:38] <castis> and to answer your question. php5-ffmpeg 0.6 removed the resize() function.
[04:39] <Sam-I-Am> THEN you can build php-ffmpeg
[04:39] <Sam-I-Am> or you can install the development libs from packages if they're the versions you need
[04:39] <Sam-I-Am> castis: is there another way around it?  like... changing your code.
[04:39] <Sam-I-Am> you could also try installing an older version... sometimes works.
[04:40] <castis> tried apt-getting it, no previous versions exist. if i cant get it working by tonight ill just change the other code around. figured it would be fun to dive in and try this though.
[04:40] <Sam-I-Am> theres probably a reason resize went away
[04:41] <Sam-I-Am> maybe theres a mailing list for it you can ask
[04:48] <castis> hmm, i appreciate your help but i do believe im just going to rewrite the php to work around what the extension author is doing..
[05:41] <jmarsden> kpettit: http://libvirt.org/drvvbox.html   # Sure looks like libvirt has virtualbox support to me :)
[05:42] <twb> jmarsden: nice
[05:42] <jmarsden> kpettit: Also, have you looked at the vboxmanage command for writing scripts that stop and start virtualbox VMs ?
[05:42] <twb> Will LXC be a well-supported virtualization method in 10.04?
[05:42] <jmarsden> I
[05:43] <twb> Specifically, will it be better supported than bloody OpenVZ, which I am sick of?
[05:43] <jmarsden> I'm not sure, I keep hearing more and more about it, but I'm not sure who supports lxc yet.
[05:43] <twb> Well, there's at least http://libvirt.org/drvlxc.html :-)
[05:43] <twb> One cool thing about LXC is you can pick which resources to virtualize.
[05:44] <twb> e.g. in a one-liner I ran a dhclient3 process with a virtual networking stack, but the rest not virtualized, and I successfully got a DHCPACK from the server.
[05:44] <twb> That was really cool (if useless)
[05:45] <jmarsden> Hmmm, I see what you mean :)
[05:46] <twb> I'd have played further but I only have a 512MB device runnign >=2.6.30
[05:46] <twb> 512MB disk, I mean
[05:49] <billybigrigger> any security gurus around?
[05:49] <jmarsden> !ask
[05:49] <jmarsden>  :)
[05:50] <twb> jmarsden: !anyone would be more pertinent
[05:50] <jmarsden> Yes, I think that's what I intended :)
[05:52] <billybigrigger> http://pastebin.ca/1709276
[05:52] <twb> I'd be more inclined to deploy a normal OpenBSD, Debian or OpenWRT box as the bastion
[05:54] <billybigrigger> ok well i was wondering through awstats output on my server, and found a wierd connection from ::1 which i found out later was one of apache's internal connections, which led me to discover the output of that pastebin, definitely a bunch of attempts to slip into my system, anyway to block these attempts, besides stopping apache and port 80 since they're all https requests...
[05:54] <billybigrigger> iptables could block the ips, but i wouldn't know an ip address until after the attack...
[05:55] <jmarsden> billybigrigger: As long as you are not running any of the old buggy software those scans look pretty boring... you can look at things like mod_security if you want to harden Apache itself, not sure where getting that into Ubuntu got to, licencing woes I think...
[05:55] <billybigrigger> ok, so as far as you can tell they're harmless...
[05:55] <billybigrigger> fair enough
[05:56] <kringell> billybigrigger: with a bit of luck Morfeus is as loud once he attacks .-)
[05:57] <jmarsden> billybigrigger: Well, Morfeus is a bot-based scanner, constantly being updated, but I can see that those are looking for OLD exploits, such as the Roundcube one from about six months ago...
[05:57] <billybigrigger> it's an up to date jaunty server, with no self compiled packages, all security updates and services are installed from ubuntu repos
[05:57] <billybigrigger> i was going to say, maybe a script kiddie?
[05:58] <twb> ::1 is an IPv6 localhost address
[05:58] <jmarsden> billybigrigger: Any "web apps" or self made PHP scripts would be more of a worry to me than being scanned by a bot.  if you allow others to upload PHP stuff, then if they upload and run and older version of some app you can get caught out...
[05:59] <twb> Oops, that "bastion" comment was for #netfilter.
[05:59] <billybigrigger> only "web apps" i run are roundcube 0.31 and whatever is the latest phpmyadmin package
[06:00] <billybigrigger> any php scripts were made by me and highly doubt any security risks there :) pretty basic php stuff...still learning :P
[06:00] <twb> Heh.  "The only app I run is one that gives superuser privileges to the database to anyone who can brute-force a password."
[06:00] <billybigrigger> jmarsden, well thanks for the re-assurance
[06:00] <billybigrigger> :)
[06:00] <billybigrigger> my passwords are pretty secure
[06:00] <jmarsden> billybigrigger: well, Roundcube *used* to have holes, but seems to be Ok at the moment, so keep a watchful eye on that.  BTW if you want to check, use the web scanners from http://sectools.org/web-scanners.html against yourself and see if you find any issues :)
[06:00] <twb> billybigrigger: password-based authentication is INHERENTLY insecure.  Always.
[06:00] <billybigrigger> any db passwords are md5 generated and only written down on a peice of paper in front of me
[06:01] <billybigrigger> have fun brute forcing those
[06:01] <jmarsden> billybigrigger: And the pws are also in the config files of the apps that use them, so if those files become read accessible...
[06:01] <billybigrigger> :)
[06:02] <twb> My point is that if you use password-based auth, brute-force guessing WILL eventually work.
[06:02] <billybigrigger> just double checked, but only readable by root and www-data, just like i suspected :P
[06:02] <billybigrigger> twb, point taken
[06:02] <twb> Whereas assymetric authentication can't be brute-forced
[06:03] <billybigrigger> oooh...a new term :P
[06:03]  * billybigrigger googles assymetric authentication
[06:03] <twb> billybigrigger: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asymmetric_encryption
[06:04] <twb> billybigrigger: also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multifactor_authentication
[06:04]  * billybigrigger bookmarks
[06:05] <billybigrigger> too much reading for this guy tonight :P take it easy guys im going to bed thanks again for the useful information
[06:06] <twb> Which is why ssh -t mysql with key-based auth would be better than a phpmysqladmin protected by a mere password.
[07:03] <arooni-mobile> hi folks!  having trouble mounting /dev/md1 as my home partition.  md1 is a raid 1 device across two hard drives.  running karmic.  i changed nothing except for the locatoin of the PC (moved it without dropping it).  now when i try to mount /dev/md1 i see: "EXT3-fs: unable to read spuerblock; mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mda1" ....   what should i do now?
[07:18] <cell0> anyone know how to check which processes are using the most disk io in linux?
[07:41] <jmarsden> cell0: iotop
[07:47] <cell0> i've used "sar" to identify high %util on a given disk. How do i translate this into a offending process?
[07:48] <jmarsden> cell0: If you run iotop you don't see the processes near the top of the list being the one causing the high % util ???
[07:49] <cell0> the processes switch very rapidly, between postgres, apache and freeradius
[07:50] <cell0> it's very difficult to isolate the problem like this, is that another way? someone suggested iostat to me, but not sure how to use it
[07:52] <jmarsden> run iotop with a larger -d delay interval?
[07:54] <jmarsden> You have postgres, apache and freeradius all on the same disk?    You could also see if iotop -a mode will show you the real culprit.
[07:55] <jmarsden> Obviously one way is to stop each of the 3 services in turn and see when the io goes away... but that has consequences if this is a production server :)
[07:55] <cell0> yip, its a production server. iotop doesn't have -a option
[07:59] <jmarsden> does iotop -d 10 -o   work better for "by eye" analysis of who is causing all the i/o ?  BTW I need to go to bed... interesting problem, but I need to get some sleep :)
[08:00] <jumbers> My host apparently provides 2 IPs for my server. How would I take advantage of this second IP address?
[08:01] <jmarsden> jumbers: Use it for a second ssl web server, for example.  If both IPs are public, that is -- some places have an internal interface for doing backups, plus the external Internet-facing interface.
[08:02] <jumbers> Er, what I meant is how would I get the IP to resolve to the machine
[08:02] <jumbers> There's only 1 NIC on the box
[08:02] <jmarsden> Oh, one NIC can have many IPs assigned to it at once.  Virtual interfaces...
[08:03] <jumbers> I haven't had any experience with virtual interfaces :p
[08:04] <jmarsden> I forget the syntax that is currently used... used to be eth0:0 and eth0:1 and so forth, but I think that was years ago and there is now a "better" way... good it and man ifconfig and you should get somewhere... usually I'd help more but I was already /away'ed and abou to go to sleep when you asked your question...
[08:07] <jmarsden> jumbers: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/search?q=cache:UtPC36ohgBEJ:ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php%3Ft%3D555319+ubuntu+virtual+interface&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us  has an old example you can probably use as a basis for what you want... and goodnight :)
[08:08] <jumbers> Night, thanks
[08:49] <alex88[sleep]> nick alex88
[08:59] <thenetduck> hey how do you install a font on a ubuntu server so my css can use it?
[09:01] <twb> thenetduck: copy it into ~/.fonts/
[09:01] <thenetduck> twb: that's it? it almost seems to easy
[09:01] <twb> That's on the client side
[09:01] <thenetduck> ok will do :)
[09:01] <thenetduck> oh
[09:01] <twb> AFAIK you can't install fonts on a web server and export them to end users
[09:01] <thenetduck> oooh... so I have to use an image I guess then
[09:02] <twb> Other than saying "you must install this font to view my page"
[09:02] <thenetduck> for my logo
[09:02] <twb> Logos shouldn't contain text
[09:02] <thenetduck> ya I wouldn't wanna do that ... ok that's good to know
[09:02] <twb> Becaus blind users can't see the logos, and thus can't see your text
[09:03] <twb> Unless you're going to write proper ALT tags, which would be great.
[09:03] <thenetduck> oh .. thats intersting I never hought of that
[09:03] <thenetduck> thought*
[09:04] <twb> tidy --accessibility-check 3 is your friend!
[09:21] <cell0> how do i find which files are read/written to the most on my system?
[10:26] <twb> cell0: why do you want to do that?
[10:40] <SockPants> hi all, i'm stuck trying to set up a git server
[10:41] <SockPants> i'm reading this:
[10:41] <SockPants> http://batterypowered.wordpress.com/2008/07/04/deploying-a-git-repository-server-in-ubuntu/
[10:41] <SockPants> at some point it says "Next copy your public key, i.e the rsa_id.pub file, to the server", and i have no idea what he's talking about.
[10:45] <Jeeves_> Have you even run ssh-keygen?
[10:45] <SockPants> actually, i just found that part, and no i hadn't
[10:45] <SockPants> but now i have, and the error i get on the next step isUsername contains not allowed characters<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:46] <Jeeves_> I don't know about git, I only knew what he meant with 'public key'
[10:46] <SockPants> ok.
[10:47] <SockPants> i've got that now, it hink
[10:47] <SockPants> except i think it doesn't like the @
[11:57] <alvin> SockPants: I found http://blog.drewolson.org/2008/05/remote-git-repos-on-ubuntu-right-way.html to be an easier guide to installing git (more basic, without gitosis)
[12:03] <cell0> twb: trying to find the process which is doing the most disk io
[12:05] <twb> iotop
[12:05] <twb> But it'll either be your RDBMS or your kernel's software RAID5 handler, IME
[12:19] <jacko_bello> hi I'm using zeroshell distro with 2 pc's but when I reach to enter in configuration webpage by https://<IP_ADDRESS> can't find this ip
[12:41] <cell0> twb: ideally i would like to know which file/s have been accessed the most within say the last hour
[13:04] <Aison> hello
[13:04] <Aison> is it possible that samba pdc LDAP is not dereferencing aliases?
[13:14] <ttx> jiboumans:  hmm, so the diskthing in the frankenbox doesn't get detected with the lucid amd64 kernel. Works with i386. So I cannot test UEC/amd64 for alpha1
[13:14]  * ttx looks for a relevant bug, but I think it might be frankenbox-specific
[13:14] <jiboumans> ttx: i thought the frankenbox was an intel one..
[13:15] <jiboumans> would we expect it to work with an amd64 kernel?
[13:15] <ttx> jiboumans: yes. The "amd64" is x86_64 and the frankenbox has some variation of a Core2Duo
[13:15] <ttx> worked in karmic
[13:16] <jiboumans> ttx: understood. all the more reason to get some different hardware in i suppose. what are we losing right now in terms of test coverage?
[13:17] <ttx> We are losing the 64-bit UEC image, the UEC/node and UEC/instace run tests
[13:18] <ttx> I'm reasonably confident that they should be alright though, which could be sufficient for alpha1
[13:19] <jiboumans> ttx: i assume switching with the dell box isn't possible?
[13:19] <ttx> no, frankenbox doesn't do VT :)
[13:19] <jiboumans> of course
[13:19] <jiboumans> ok, not much we can do on the really short term; let's get you some more decent hardware
[13:20] <jiboumans> mdz seems to be in favour of more laptops. if we can get the ethernet-over-usb confirmed working, i'm happy with that
[13:20] <ttx> ok.
[13:21] <alvin> Is setting 'ForwardX11 Yes' in ~/.ssh/config the same as 'ssh -X'? I'm getting the error: 'Bad yes/no argument'
[13:21] <ttx> smoser: could you set up a UEC/amd64 for tests ?
[13:21] <ttx> zul: could you run the EC2 image tests ?
[13:22] <jiboumans> alvin: your /etc/ssh/ssh_config should give youa  good overview of the syntax
[13:22] <jiboumans> alvin: could be a simple matter of case sensitivity
[13:24] <alvin> jiboumans: thx, it is indeed case sensitivity!
[13:26] <zul> ttx: sure besides amd64 is overrated ;)
[13:27] <lau> hi, how can I identify the Ethernet Controller brand and size and capacity (w/o lshw) ?
[13:27] <lau> I tried dmesg, lspci, /var/log/messages w/o any success
[13:29] <toabctl> lau, maybe "lscpi -vv"
[13:31] <lau> oh yes ! i remember it now
[13:32] <lau> :( same output 0000:00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation Ethernet Controller (rev 02)
[13:32] <lau> i am trying with dmidecode but do not know how to translate manufacturer codes
[13:32] <mdz> jiboumans, ttx, Daviey has one and might be able to do a quick test
[13:33] <mdz> but we've confirmed the module is available and that's really all that's needed
[13:33] <ttx> right.
[13:33] <ttx> mdz: So two options here:
[13:33] <ttx> Go for a 5-laptop setup (i.e. order two more, + two USB Ethernet adapters)
[13:33] <mdz> (see #-devel)
[13:33] <Daviey> will do.. gonna be odd PXE booting to get to d-i then swapping the cat5 cable to the usb module.
[13:33] <ttx> Go for 4 laptops and use the Dell workstation (noisy, but working) as part of the setup (i.e. order one more laptop, one USB Ethernet adapter, and one PCI NIC)
[13:33] <ttx> mdz: The test cases needing 5 machines are sufficiently rare that I can bear the occasional blower noise.
[13:34] <mdz> Daviey, a test with kvm -usb -usbdevice host:... would be sufficient if that's more convenient
[13:34] <Daviey> oo
[13:35] <mdz> ttx, you might even be able to do a test without the hardware at all using kvm -usb -usbdevice net: but I didn't know that existed until just now
[13:36] <mdz> ttx, having an extra machine in the mix would be a good idea (e.g. if one fails we can ship it out as a replacement)
[13:36] <ttx> mdz: so i should aim for option 1 and keep the dell as a wildcard ?
[13:37] <mdz> ttx, that's my suggestion
[13:37] <mdz> jiboumans, thoughts?
[13:37]  * jiboumans reads back
[13:37] <ttx> mdz: I'm perfectly happy with that if you approve it :)
[13:38] <jiboumans> i agree with ttx there
[13:38] <jiboumans> if ethernet-usb works, let's go with that
[13:42]  * ttx tests -usb -usbdevice net:
[13:47] <smoser> ttx, you want me to run the image tests in uec ? or in ec2?
[13:47] <smoser> or both
[13:47] <ttx> install UEC cluster, install UEC node, test UEC instance run with UEC image
[13:48] <ttx> smoser: ^
[13:49] <smoser> freaking eh, ttx! :)
[13:49] <smoser> i can do that, yeah. the 64 bit ?
[13:49] <ttx> smoser: yes
[13:49] <smoser> ah, and you asked zul to run the ec2, then i'm ok with that.
[13:49] <smoser> i thought i was on both those request above.
[13:50] <ttx> smoser: I think that's the optimal use of our currently limited resources ;)
[13:50] <smoser> did you see my comment in bug regarding "don't boot" ?
[13:50] <ttx> smoser: I tested the UEC/i386 image alright
[13:50] <smoser> i have no idea why it was failing on 'small' for me.
[13:51] <ttx> smoser: I didn't test that. The test case says "c1.medium" :)
[13:51] <ttx> there might be some size check that fails only on 64bit
[13:52] <smoser> i was on 64 bit host testing 32 bit instance, but the 32 bit karmic release instance booted.
[13:59] <ttx> mdz: installer doesn't seem to pick up the USB NIC when run from "kvm -usb -usbdevice net:"
[14:01] <mdz> ttx, can we have this conversation on #ubuntu-installer or #ubuntu-devel with cjwatson?
[14:01] <ttx> sure
[14:15] <Aison> is there some ubuntu docu about bind9 and zones in ldap? cant find a good one :(
[14:16] <Aison> for me it looks like there are 2 different possibilities
[14:36] <smoser> ttx, to be clear, you want me to run http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/ServerECluster (intsall from iso for server and node, then test uec images, right)
[14:37] <smoser> where is that URL linked from ? ie where do i record results of UEC intsall test
[14:37] <ttx> smoser: yes. That should also take care of the amd64 UEC cloud image test
[14:37] <ttx> smoser: I'll paste the testcases here
[14:38] <ttx> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/3436/334
[14:38] <ttx> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/3436/336
[14:38] <ttx> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/3436/361
[14:38] <ttx> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/3470/342
[14:39] <smoser> how do i find those tests from navigation ?
[14:40] <smoser> in case i forget the numbers 3436/334
[14:41] <ttx> smoser: drill down from http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/ubuntuserver/all
[14:42] <mdz> smoser, from http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ click on Ubuntu Server
[14:42] <smoser> ttx, ok. i see it now as a test for the server iso. i had previously thought there wsa a separate 'uec install' at that top level.
[14:50] <rickspencer3> smoser, hi
[14:52] <smoser> rickspencer3, hi.
[14:53] <rickspencer3> smoser, https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-lucid-desktop-cloud
[14:53] <rickspencer3> we should probably get started on this
[14:53] <rickspencer3> other than saying "I think we should use the nx server from Google" is there anything else you need from me?
[14:54] <smoser> i think i'm a couple hours away from having desktop builds available... i did a bunch of work on it last few days but didn't want to push it to the build system before we tested alpha1
[14:54] <smoser> so i think i'm a couple hours from having the first 3 TODOs done.
[14:55] <smoser> couple hours of work time, not clock. got to test uec now.
[15:02] <Aison> can I configure my pppoe connections in interfaces?
[15:03] <Aison> man 5 interfaces is quite spare
[15:05] <smoser> ttx, did the node controller find the cloud controller automatically for you?
[15:07] <ttx> smoser: no.
[15:07] <smoser> bug?
[15:07] <ttx> smoser: it's because the new UEC installer is half-landed
[15:07] <ttx> smoser: known issue
[15:07] <smoser> so is there a bug for that? should i open one ?
[15:08] <ttx> smoser: there is no bug for that, you can, but don't need to, file a bug about it
[15:09] <ttx> smoser: enter the cloud IP adress and insist on installing a node :)
[15:09] <smoser> yeah. thats what i did.
[15:11] <Aison> what are my options for iface eth0 inet manual
[15:11] <Aison> so when I use manual?
[15:26] <Aison> I did ifdown [mydevice]
[15:26] <Aison> now I called ifup [mydevice]
[15:26] <Aison> eth3.100: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[15:26] <Aison> Failed to bring up eth3.200.
[15:27] <Aison> why do I get this error?
[15:27] <Aison> of course I can do /etc/init.d/networking restart
[15:27] <Aison> but then everything is restarted
[15:28] <t0rc> Is there a way to see why my server says it needs rebooted?
[15:32] <rickspencer3> smoser, thanks
[15:56] <smoser> ttx, maybe this is user error, but
[15:56] <smoser> euca-run-instances -k mykey $EMI -t c1.medium
[15:56] <smoser> FinishedVerify: Not enough resources available: addresses (try --addressing private)
[15:56] <smoser> $ grep "^VNET_PUBLICIPS=" /etc/eucalyptus/eucalyptus.conf
[15:56] <smoser> VNET_PUBLICIPS="<IP_ADDRESS>-<IP_ADDRESS>"
[15:56] <ttx> smoser: hm
[15:57] <ttx> 224>131
[15:57] <ttx> that probably translates to 0
[15:58] <ttx> smoser: fix VNET_PUBLICIPS and sudo stop eucalyptus CLEAN=1 / start eucalyptus CLEAN=1
[15:58] <smoser> i read that several times before i pasted
[15:58] <smoser> :)
[15:58] <smoser> each time replacing that '1' with a '2'
[15:58] <ttx> or you can test with private addressing)
[16:05] <pmatulis> on jaunty i've made an lvm snapshot (of a kvm guest disk/volume) and then tried to mount the snapshot but was unsuccessful.  mount complains about filesystem
[16:16] <ttx> smoser: non-double-base64-encoding euca2ools is now in karmic-proposed
[16:16] <smoser> whoowhoo
[16:21] <Aison> are iptables settings stored/restored on shutdown/boot?
[16:21] <jiboumans> aison: that's what iptables-save & iptables-restore is for
[16:21] <arj> not by default I believe
[16:22] <jiboumans> aison: you'll have to make the changes permanent yourself
[16:22] <Aison> jiboumans, yes I know those. But I also know several linux distributions and some have got init scripts that store/restore iptables rules
[16:22] <Aison> ok, what's best way to go? create my own init script?
[16:23] <Aison> pre-up / post-down in interfaces maybe a problem ,because I've got over 15 LAN devices  ^^
[16:24] <jiboumans> aison: i'm not sure off the top of my head. a quick google comes up with a very recent: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[16:24] <Aison> yes, I already reading this nowto ;)
[16:25] <Aison> they do it with interfaces pre-up post-down
[16:25] <jiboumans> that is the intuitive way i'd say
[16:27] <Aison> ok, there's also some small script for if-post-down
[16:27] <Aison> nice
[16:31] <Aison> ok, now the hardcore test, rebooting my router ^^  there are so many rules, devices, routes, etc...
[16:31] <Aison> I hope everything is setup nice
[16:36] <benedikt> I have a 100mb /boot partition which has now filled up (100% full). What can i do ?
[16:36] <J_P> hi all
[16:36] <jmarsden> benedikt: Remove some stuff from it :)   Is there an older kernel package you can now safely remove, for example?
[16:36] <J_P> people, I have a old app that use -lboost_date_time. And today I try to compile and I have this message: g++ -o simple_server ServerSocket.o Socket.o simple_server_main.o -lboost_date_time /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lboost_date_time. I have installed libboost-date-time. Any idea?
[16:37] <benedikt> jmarsden: wasnt sure if i woulc ro right ahead and just remove the older kernels, wouldnt grub turn grumpy about that
[16:37] <J_P> I'm using 9.10
[16:37] <benedikt> i have kernels from 2.6.28 it looks like
[16:37] <jmarsden> benedikt: Do you need them all?
[16:37] <benedikt> nope
[16:38] <benedikt> it just installed 2.6.31-16 today but i am running 2.6.31-14 (server is at a remote location and i really dont want to reboot in case it doesnt come up again)
[16:39] <J_P> anyone?
[16:39] <benedikt> jmarsden: rm /boot/*2.6.2*
[16:39] <J_P> find /usr/lib -name libboost_date_time-mt.so
[16:39] <J_P> /usr/lib/libboost_date_time-mt.so
[16:39] <benedikt> and then run grub-install
[16:40] <benedikt> is that safe?
[16:40] <jmarsden> benedikt: No....    sudo apt-get remove all the unwanted old kernels (leave one older one just  in case)
[16:40] <benedikt> ill leave one below the running one
[16:41] <benedikt> dont know why i didnt think about the package manager..
[16:42] <jmarsden> benedikt: Do it as packages not rm, so you get everything related to each kernel and keep things clean... OK :)
[16:42] <ttx> smoser: you should mark http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/3436/361 as passed as well, I guess, since you ran a UEC image
[16:42] <benedikt> removing linux-image-2.6.28-15-server saved 14 mb.. yay
[16:43] <benedikt> why did i have a separate /boot , again?
[16:45] <smoser> done
[17:11] <dru> Im haveing quite hard time setting up something as rudementary as a samba server
[17:12] <dru> the file permissions are set at 700, testparm tells me the cfg is fine...however user1 can look at user2s folder contents and vice versa
[17:16] <pmatulis> dru: how are you accessing these shares?
[17:16] <dru> hey pmatulis
[17:16] <dru> umm they are accessed via afp i think its called ....via macs
[17:17] <dru> using smb://address
[17:17] <dru> they are accessed locally as well as via vpn
[17:17] <RoyK> afp != smb
[17:17] <dru> kool
[17:18] <RoyK> afp:// is afp
[17:18] <RoyK> but there really isn't much reason to use that anymore
[17:23] <dru> in the "global" section of the cfg i have a list of all users under "valid users, read list, write list...
[17:28] <RoyK> dru: that shouldn't be necessary
[17:29] <dru> yeah ....i removed it but it still dosnt help to secure the single sares from "other" users
[17:29] <RoyK> just allow "public access" and the users will be allowed access after authenticating
[17:30] <RoyK> dru: samba specific stuff is best answered at #samba, btw, but most of the stuff is in man smb.conf
[17:30] <dru> awsomeo ...thanks RoyK
[17:58] <J_P> I have a server with 7.10 but somes sources.list not works.. are there another server (old server) with ubuntu 7.10 ?
[18:01] <J_P> How I use http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/ in sources.list?
[18:01] <neonfreon>           #ubuntu-server
[18:01] <neonfreon> 09:58 < J_P> I have a server with 7.10 but somes sources.list not works.. are
[18:01] <neonfreon>              there another server (old server) with ubuntu 7.10 ?
[18:01] <neonfreon> sorry
[18:03] <jpds> J_P: You don't.
[18:04] <jpds> J_P: You use: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[18:05] <jpds> J_P: And seriously consider upgrading your server if you want it to be secure.
[18:07] <J_P> jpds: what is woring with this? deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ gutsy main restricted
[18:07] <jpds> J_P: The "dists" bit.
[18:07] <jpds> Not suppose to be there.
[18:08] <J_P> jpds: ahh ok just deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted
[18:08] <J_P> works ;-)
[18:09] <jpds> :)
[20:58] <Aison> I would like to use quota with ldap lookup
[20:58] <Aison> I don't know here to start ;)
[20:58] <Aison> ldap is working
[21:10] <Aison> crap quota :(
[21:10] <Aison> it's not even working with lvm here
[21:10] <Aison> quotaon: quotactl() on /dev/mapper/vg0-lv0: Function not implemented
[21:54] <Italian_Plumber1> sudo apt-get install girlfriend-generator
[22:08] <smoser> good night all.
[22:33] <ruben23> hi is it possible to have to wan connection on my ubuntu router gaetway, form different ISP.
[22:33] <ruben23> mostl likely 4 port of ethernet- 2 for wan and 2 for local
[22:34] <benedikt> ruben23: uh, yes.
[22:35] <ruben23>  benedikt: any guides how to do it,
[22:36] <benedikt> just assign the appropriate ip addresses to each interface (eth0-3) and connect them to the right ports
[22:38] <ruben23>  benedikt: how about the routing and the gateway..?
[22:38] <ruben23> the iptable rules for it
[22:38] <benedikt> just use the approrirate eth names in the rules
[22:42] <ruben23> benedikt: should NAT still be used..?
[22:42] <benedikt> if you want to NAT a private ip network then yes
[22:42] <benedikt> but if you are routing an ip network (and not NAT-ing) then no
[22:42] <qman`> ruben23, I think what you're really wanting to know is how to load balance two internet connections
[22:43] <qman`> that's a bit more complicated than just connecting them
[22:45] <ruben23> qman: i have a pc client need to directly registered on a public hosted server. what you think i need, i think NAt is problem, but another problem is, it is not only one client pc but its multiple client pc
[22:46] <qman`> ruben23, sorry, I don't follow -- if you just need port forwarding, that's easily done through iptables
[22:49] <ruben23>  qman`:  i have voice traffic form my client pc generated form soft phones, whihc the server or system runs it is hosted on a remote location, multiple client pc are using it..if i used my gateway server the linux router i have, would it be ok,
[22:50] <ruben23> my client pc is in private IP, so basically they need NAt, can it be possible without NAT on my linux router
[23:27] <jiboumans> Night guys


[01:30] <tripte1> is there anything like "xterm --start-in-this-path=/foobar/" t from say thunaso I can call i
[01:30] <tripte1> it from say thunar or nautils
[01:36] <rici> in thunar, right click on a folder and select "open terminal here"
[04:18] <cheeseboy> hi
[04:19] <cheeseboy> how do i scan ip for open ports?
[06:01] <cellofellow> I know there is dictionaries built-in the Linux, is there a thesaurus?
[08:22] <anonymouse> hi
[08:36] <mindframe> hrmm i can't startx.  error: "Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc, removing from list!  Waiting for X server to shut down FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing
[08:36] <mindframe> whats up?
[08:38] <anonymouse> hello...any helpers?
[10:58] <nikolam> Hello
[11:25] <nikolam> hi
[11:25] <nikolam> HelloI want to install Iceape from debian and it needs some librarios that I don`t have here in 7.04. How should I go ? Should I add debian repository in synaptic or just add gutsy and stay with 7.04 version in synaptic (while installing app is looking for libraries there).
[11:32] <c0de> hi
[11:32] <nikolam> hi
[11:32] <c0de> someone out there knowing sth. about xfs?
[11:32] <c0de> i.e. x font server
[11:38] <nikolam> Hmm i used xfs for a time, bud dunno much
[11:41] <c0de> hmm
[11:41] <c0de> following scenario
[11:42] <c0de> i want to connect to hpux
[11:43] <c0de> per xdmcp
[11:43] <c0de> so i have to use the fontservice by hpux
[11:44] <c0de> otherwise cde wont start
[11:44] <c0de> this works
[11:44] <c0de> next  problem:
[11:45] <c0de> i also have to connect to solaris
[11:45] <c0de> so i would have to add 2 xfs
[11:45] <c0de> but: this is all done by nx, where you only can enter _1_ xfs
[11:46] <c0de> my question is: what fonts does xfs provide? my idea was to set up 1 xfs on linux, which is a client for a solaris _and_ hpux and also plays server
[11:47] <c0de> so that i enter this ip in nx and it automatically loads the fonts from the 2 enterprise-unices
[11:57] <nikolam> Hey! xfs is File system
[11:57] <nikolam> What do you think when you say xfs?
[11:57] <DuClare> 12'32'32 <       c0de> i.e. x font server
[11:57] <c0de> ^^
[11:58] <nikolam> So, I used file system. ;)
[11:59] <nikolam> sorry
[11:59] <nikolam> cOde: try nested X on x?
[12:00] <c0de> xnest? sure. this is the way i do it. my users use tsclient, which spawns xdmcp
[12:05] <nikolam> c0de Had any expirience with Xephyr?
[12:05] <c0de> nope
[12:07] <c0de> but looks interesting
[12:08] <nikolam> Multiterminal on one machine, with dual core theese days, it makes perfect sense.
[12:11] <c0de> yes sure
[12:17] <Ben_Cs> hello
[12:17] <Ben_Cs> what's up guys?
[12:21] <totalwormface> oh gods, i'm going to say sky :[
[12:21] <nikolam> C0de needs solution for multiple x font server
[12:22] <nikolam> totalwormface ? :)
[12:22] <DuClare> totalwormface, well, that's allright
[12:22] <DuClare> I usually just say `heaven`. ;)
[12:22] <totalwormface> :]
[12:27] <Ben_Cs> lol
[12:27] <c0de> yes, really need some help -.-
[12:28] <Ben_Cs> well, who's up to solving a little net disconnection problem then?
[12:47] <hyper_ch> Miteto:
[02:18] <c0de> hello again :)
[02:18] <c0de> is here anyone who knows about nfs?
[02:18] <c0de> i have a nasty problem here
[03:18] <ch40s> I need help getting my PCMCIA wireless card working
[03:18] <ch40s> anyone have experience doing that?
[03:22] <darrend> which card is it, and what problem are you having?
[05:03] <KurdishSniper> Hi, I am trying to install Xubuntu on my laptop, its quite old, but i cant seem to be able to do so. I would be grateful if someone could give me some guidance.
[05:03] <vinze> Have you tried the Alternate CD?
[05:04] <KurdishSniper> currenty i have XP pro with service pack 2 on it
[05:04] <KurdishSniper> i downloaded the "usual" one
[05:04] <KurdishSniper> for INTEL
[05:04] <vinze> And what did not work?
[05:04] <KurdishSniper> no
[05:04] <DuClare> umm..
[05:04] <KurdishSniper> it  doesnt even get to the stage where it shows how it looks like
[05:05] <DuClare> does it say anything..
[05:05] <DuClare> like error messages
[05:05] <KurdishSniper> gets into a blue screen with a frozen mouse.
[05:05] <KurdishSniper> yeah
[05:05] <KurdishSniper> PNPBIOS fault
[05:05] <KurdishSniper> attempt to recover failed
[05:05] <KurdishSniper> couldnt turn it off
[05:06] <DuClare> couldn't turn what off?
[05:06] <DuClare> can you turn off pnp support in bios?
[05:06] <KurdishSniper> PnP Bios
[05:06] <KurdishSniper> i have no clue what that is
[05:06] <DuClare> plug and play I suppose
[05:06] <KurdishSniper> i went to the BIOS
[05:06] <KurdishSniper> setting
[05:06] <KurdishSniper> but didnt see PnP
[05:07] <KurdishSniper> so i assumed its not there
[05:07] <The-Kernel> no
[05:07] <The-Kernel> the BIOS to a PnP device
[05:07] <KurdishSniper> it says unexpected status 0x37
[05:08] <The-Kernel> do you have anything other then your mouse/keyboard/monitor/speakers plugged in?
[05:08] <KurdishSniper> i have formated my laptop couple of times and reinstalled win xp on it no problem
[05:09] <KurdishSniper> i have my 3G data card, but i usually unplug it when i try to install Xubuntu
[05:10] <The-Kernel> what OS version do you have, what type of laptop is it
[05:10] <KurdishSniper> I have Mobile Intel Pentium IIIE, 500 MHz , and the motherboard is Mitac PWA-7020, it has 128 MB  (SDRAM)
[05:10] <KurdishSniper> its Viglen Dossier LX
[05:11] <KurdishSniper> currently running  Microsoft Windows XP Professional with Service Pack 2
[05:11] <KurdishSniper> BIOS type is SystemSoft
[05:11] <The-Kernel> hrm
[05:12] <KurdishSniper> My intention is to delete XP all together and just have Xubuntu running on it...
[05:14] <KurdishSniper> BIOS Version R1.01
[05:15] <The-Kernel> well, after googling/ubuntuforuming it, it looks like there might be a device on your motherboard that's incompatible with ubuntu
[05:15] <The-Kernel> xubuntu
[05:18] <KurdishSniper> anything i can do about it?
[05:19] <KurdishSniper> i really want to ditch microsoft for good if i could
[05:19] <KurdishSniper> Thanks alot The-Kernel, really appreciate your help.
[05:20] <slaye1> Hi there
[05:20] <ch40s> I need help getting my PCMCIA wireless card working
[05:20] <ch40s> anyone have experience doing that?
[05:20] <slaye1> Is there any way to start applications maximized?
[05:20] <slaye1> ch40s: What card is it?
[05:20] <The-Kernel> KurdishSniper: download Knopix and see how that runs
[05:21] <ch40s> DWL-650 (D-Link)
[05:21] <KurdishSniper> The-Kernel: Many Thanks, really appreciate your help.
[05:21] <slaye1> And why does the xfce menu refer to open office insteed of open office writer
[05:22] <KurdishSniper> ill try Knopix and hope that would work
[05:23] <slaye1> ch40s: Maybe this will help? http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-8823.html
[05:23] <slaye1> Anyone got an idea on the "writer issue"?
[05:23] <slaye1> Oh and how to start maximized.
[05:24] <slaye1> ch40s: Maybe this is better: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=296179
[05:24] <ch40s> i can install via expert mode?
[05:24] <slaye1> Must be in the text based installer
[05:25] <ch40s> k
[05:25] <slaye1> But the howto dont require that.
[05:25] <The-Kernel> KurdishSniper: Knopix has great hardware support, if you get an error make sure you write it down
[05:26] <KurdishSniper> The-Kernel: Thanks pal, really appreciate it, I will write it down and see what it says.
[05:26] <The-Kernel> ok
[05:27] <KurdishSniper> The-Kernel: but with Xubuntu, did suggest that i update the Bios, but its support has been discontinued
[05:27] <KurdishSniper> it also said
[05:27] <ch40s> slaye1: It couldnt find the first package it says to install
[05:28] <KurdishSniper> PnpBIOS: Set_dev_node unexpected error
[05:29] <slaye1> ch40s: It seems to be in the universe repo. It it enabled?
[05:30] <KurdishSniper> PnpBIOS: Set_dev_node unexpected status 0x37
[05:30] <The-Kernel> KurdishSniper: yeah I'm pretty sure it's a device on your motherboard that's incompatible
[05:31] <KurdishSniper> im reading something off google...
[05:40] <Wizard> hey there
[05:43] <Wizard> i have few questions
[05:43] <Snoopotic> hi
[05:43] <Wizard> 1: will xubuntu/ppc allow me to boot both linux and os x?
[05:43] <Wizard> 2: will my ati graphics work with 3d acceleration ?
[05:43] <Snoopotic> after booting up from hibernate-mode I cant connect to the internet :/ I have a pcmcia-card is there a possibility to reconnect?
[05:45] <Snoopotic> Wizard 1) a bootloader will make it possible to load one of you both osses (not both at one time but you can choose at bootup)
[05:45] <Pumpernickel> Wizard: 1: yes. 2: maybe, depending on which card.
[05:45] <Snoopotic> Wizard 2) .. .:D Pumpernickel said
[05:45] <Pumpernickel> KurdishSniper: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=305480
[05:45] <Wizard> Pumpernickel: i don't remember now :)
[05:46] <Wizard> Snoopotic: and what with data sharing ?
[05:46] <Wizard> i would like to set up 1 partition which will be writable both by linux and os x.
[05:46] <Wizard> which fs should i choose?
[05:47] <Snoopotic> Im noit firm with os x but I guess both can handle ext3 well
[05:47] <Wizard> i hope so :/
[05:48] <KurdishSniper> Pumpernickel, Thanks pal.
[05:49] <Pumpernickel> MacOS X doesn't support ext3 natively, and Linux's HFS+ support is a bit sketchy.
[05:49] <Wizard> :/
[05:50] <Pumpernickel> There's an independent project to bring ext2/3 to OS X: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsx/
[05:50] <Pumpernickel> And if that doesn't work, there's always FAT.
[05:50] <Wizard> fat on 40GB ?
[05:50] <Wizard> omg
[05:52] <Wizard> ok, i'll just try :)
[05:53] <Snoopotic> hmm does anyone has an idea what I meant with my question?
[05:53] <wbadger> what was your question?
[05:55] <Snoopotic> why after awaking from hibernation my "internet" doesnt work.
[05:56] <wbadger> does it always work if you don't hibernate?
[05:56] <Snoopotic> xubuntu has no such nice network manager-tool like ubuntu has (may I install it? hows it called?) so I cant manually simply restart the pcmcia adapter
[05:57] <Snoopotic> yes usual booting works well
[05:57] <wbadger> I believe it does have the same things as ubuntu
[05:57] <Snoopotic> I believe too but I currently couldnt find :D
[05:58] <wbadger> are you sure it's not the same one as system -> Networking?
[05:58] <wbadger> In the XFCE menu I mean
[05:58] <Snoopotic> in ubuntu you have an taskbaricon :D
[05:58] <Snoopotic> I only know it frm screenshots.
[05:59] <Snoopotic> or screenvideos, I cant really confirm :D
[06:00] <wbadger> maybe it is network-manager? try sudo apt-get install network-manager
[06:01] <Snoopotic> nah the problem is,... It seems I need to restart or reload the pcmcia-adapter-thingy I found a hint to do /etc/init.d/pcmcia restart ... but I dont have any /etc/init.d/pcmcia :/
[06:02] <wbadger> but you have /etc/pcmcia ..
[06:03] <Snoopotic> I have a /etc/init.d/pcmciautils and whatever I type there I get: "* PCMCIA bridge driver already present in kernel" :(
[06:05] <wbadger> how about the command pccardctl
[06:05] <wbadger> try "pccardctl ls"
[06:06] <wbadger> Snoopotic
[06:06] <Snoopotic> hm
[06:06] <Snoopotic> this has an output, do want it?
[06:06] <Snoopotic> do you*
[06:07] <wbadger> it has no output for my computer and I don't really understand a lot about these stuff
[06:07] <Snoopotic> lol ^^
[06:07] <Snoopotic> ok
[06:07] <wbadger> but I know you can try "pccardctl reset" too. type "pccardctl" to see the available commands for it
[06:13] <Snoopotic> hmm ok tht works. but there seems another problem too :D
[06:13] <wbadger> yes?
[06:14] <Snoopotic> I can do pccardctl eject and then insert... so my card gets reinitialised. but it still seems not to establish a wlan.connection
[06:14] <wbadger> what is the output of "ifconfig"?
[06:15] <ch40s> whats the xubuntu text editor?
[06:15] <wbadger> ch40s, mousepad
[06:15] <ch40s> ty
[06:15] <wbadger> ch40s, but you can choose any other one of course
[06:15] <ch40s> when i open sources.list its blank
[06:15] <ch40s> is it in a different directory?
[06:16] <wbadger> it is in /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:16] <ch40s> it shouldnt be blank should it?
[06:16] <ch40s> lol
[06:16] <wbadger> no it shouldn't
[06:17] <ch40s> when i sudo mousepad /etc/apt/sources.list it comes up blank
[06:17] <ch40s> but i navigated to it
[06:18] <wbadger> when I sudo mousepad /etc/apt/sources.list it comes up with its content and a red warning that I am editing the file with root permissions..
[06:18] <ch40s> weird
[06:18] <Snoopotic> wbadger there is ra0 that is my wlan-adapter... it tells its connected but not to where... and on my router I see its NOT connected to that... it only has an ipv6 adress no ipv4 ... so it may need to reload that one ... on windows i was used to do "ipconfig --renew" :D something similar here?
[06:18] <Pumpernickel> You may have overwritten it by accident.  You can regenerate an appropriate file here: http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[06:19] <ch40s> naw its fine it didnt edit it
[06:19] <wbadger> ch40s, check if "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" works
[06:19] <ch40s> file>opened it in mousepad
[06:20] <ch40s> this PCMCIA card is proving to be a real pain
[06:20] <wbadger> Snoopotic, I believe you would use ifup and ifdown for the interfaces... so "ifup ra0" I guess
[06:21] <Snoopotic> aah :D
[06:21] <wbadger> I hope that means it works :)
[06:22] <Snoopotic> now... how to implement this to happen automaticallly from awaking from hibernate ? :D
[06:23] <Snoopotic> my girlfried otherwise forces me to switch back to xp :D but its just a small 450mhz and 128mbram laptop to watch movies in bed :D xubuntu is best choose for that :D
[06:23] <wbadger> I am not sure about that but you can at least put all all those commands in a .sh file on your desktop so it will be easier..
[06:24] <wbadger> I agree that it's a good choice
[06:32] <tarntow> anyone know how to fix a damaged repository or switch to use the backup?
[06:35] <Pumpernickel> How is it damaged?
[06:42] <tarntow> pumpernickel: chopping and changing too much then just said something to do with /var/lib/apt/lists/lock not found...
[06:48] <Snoopotic> hmmmmm
[06:50] <Snoopotic> now I have just a small problem: I automount with fstab on boot: " //windowspc1/folder /home/bla/blubb smbfs  ro ... 0 0 " after doing ifdown && ifup I cannot acces this folder ./ is there a way to reload the fstab mountrules?
[07:49] <zoredache> Snoopotic: you really probably shouldn't automount network volumes in your fstab...
[07:49] <zoredache> Snoopotic: instead it would be better to setup autofs
[07:50] <zoredache> Snoopotic: but anyway an mount -a should remount everything listed in the fstab
[07:50] <Snoopotic> hmm
[07:51] <zoredache> of course if they filesystem is mounted, but unhappy then 'mount -a' won't do anything
[08:01] <Snoopotic> ah hadnt autofs installed...
[08:02] <Snoopotic> do you know a good tutorial mounting smb-folder with automount? otherwise I will take what I find :D
[08:59] <arci> hey there. ist there no network manager in xubuntu ?
[08:59] <Snoopotic> :D
[09:00] <Snoopotic> not such nice as on gnome...
[09:00] <arci> can i use gnome one?
[09:00] <TheSheep> arci: yes
[09:00] <TheSheep> also, since gutsy, we will have the gnome one by default
[09:00] <TheSheep> or so I've heard
[09:00] <arci> ok nice
[09:01] <arci> but first of all i need to connect to my wlan
[09:01] <arci> where do i find the network mananger in xfc4 ?
[09:01] <TheSheep> !eifi
[09:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eifi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:01] <TheSheep> !wifi | arci
[09:01] <ubotu> arci: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:13] <arci> it doesnt have support for WPA?
[09:14] <TheSheep> !wpa
[09:14] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:14] <TheSheep> blah
[09:14] <TheSheep> arci: I think you need to install wpasupplicant
[09:14] <TheSheep> arci: details should be documented in that manual
[09:15] <arci> ok i take the wire to connect to internet
[09:15] <arci> but then i can install gnome networkmanager right?
[09:15] <TheSheep> yes
[09:16] <arci> im new into xfce
[09:16] <arci> old gnome user
[09:22] <Snoopotic> yeehaw :D
[09:22] <Snoopotic> now I can hibernate and wake up and go on :D
[09:23] <TheSheep> Snoopotic: what about your laptop?
[09:23] <Snoopotic> yup :D
[09:24] <Snoopotic> ah TheSheep :D I needed to add "apm power_off=1" into /etc/modules
[09:25] <Snoopotic> the kernel-option "acpi=force" was/is no good idea on my laptop :D
[09:25] <TheSheep> Snoopotic: ah, that's why it was forced off
[09:26] <Snoopotic> the next was the problem, that after awaking from hibernate, wlan/networking didn't work :D
[09:27] <Snoopotic> I made a small script that does ifdown ra0  and ifup ra0  :D then I also cann access internet :D
[09:27] <pili> Hi, woe do I change the number of desktops I need in the pager?
[09:27] <pili> *how
[09:27] <TheSheep> pili: settings->workspaces and margins
[09:28] <pili> thanx! TheSheep
[09:35] <Merchelo> !ifconfig
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ifconfig - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <Merchelo> !info ifconfig
[09:35] <ubotu> Package ifconfig does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[09:35] <TheSheep> !botabuse | Merchelo
[09:35] <ubotu> Merchelo: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[09:36] <Merchelo> sorry
[09:36] <TheSheep> !info iputils | Merchelo
[09:36] <ubotu> merchelo: Package iputils does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[09:36] <TheSheep> !info iputil | Merchelo
[09:36] <ubotu> merchelo: Package iputil does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[09:36] <TheSheep> L/
[09:36] <TheSheep> :/
[09:36] <Merchelo> it's ok
[09:37] <Snoopotic> lol
[09:37] <TheSheep> Merchelo: ah, seems it's in net-tools
[09:38] <TheSheep> Snoopotic: old habits from a different distro
[09:38] <Snoopotic> if I changed sth in /etc/sudoers do I hve to restart sthg ?
[09:39] <TheSheep> Snoopotic: if you did it properly using visudo, then no
[09:40] <nikolam> I have a question about suspend/resume/hibernate and usb modem. I have script in /etc/rc5.d/S99rc.local that starts my Adsl connection over Usb modem on every boot. But when I suspend/resume Connextion stops working. How to make it restart/work again after returning from suspend/hibernate?
[09:41] <Snoopotic> like I did .D
[09:41] <Snoopotic> ifdown / ifup the device :D
[09:41] <nikolam> nothing more?
[09:42] <nikolam> so I must manually ifdown it?
[09:42] <nikolam> before suspend/hibernate
[09:42] <Snoopotic> seems so. I made a script :D
[09:42] <nikolam> Could you please share the script :)
[09:43] <nikolam> I suppose you make it automatticaly ifdown id before suspend/hibernate and automatically ifup after?
[09:43] <Snoopotic> currently try to find out how to use a link on my desktop that sudoes my script without porompting the password :D
[09:43] <nikolam> Where to find your script? i hope it is commented or so
[09:44] <Snoopotic> lol its no big thing ^^
[09:44] <TheSheep> Snoopotic: gksu
[09:44] <TheSheep> Snoopotic: ah, it will prompt for password
[09:44] <TheSheep> Snoopotic: just graphically
[09:44] <Snoopotic> no
[09:44] <Snoopotic> I let it open in terminal
[09:44] <Snoopotic> its a shellscript.
[09:45] <Snoopotic> nikolam do oyu speak german?
[09:45] <nikolam> lol It is art. Tell me where to put it and ill tell you how it behaves :)
[09:45] <nikolam> nope, but I hope i will learn one day :)
[09:45] <Snoopotic> hmm ok... its because I found a link :D
[09:45] <nikolam> Give it give it.
[09:46] <Snoopotic> http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/108196/?highlight=
[09:46] <Snoopotic> its german... _._
[09:46] <nikolam> maybe translate a bit or use babelfish.altavista :)
[09:46] <nikolam> Ok thanks :)
[09:46] <nikolam> For exchange i have solution for Not showing startup screen on every Ooo start :)
[09:47] <TheSheep> nikolam: that's in the settings
[09:47] <nikolam> Interested ? I have a link.. :)
[09:48] <Snoopotic> TheSheep I edited the /etc/sudoers putting that line in: "%users     ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/local/bin/resetwlan" and on my desktopo I have a startlink to "sudo /usr/local/bin/resetwlan" to be executed in shell... it starts the shell but asks for the password :/
[09:49] <Snoopotic> shell means "terminal" :D
[09:50] <nikolam> Like it irritates me asking for passwor every time I start Firestarter :(
[09:54] <fuci> Hi, I'm having bit of an problem, some of my icons are missing :/ Did a fresh install of basic Ubuntu 7.04 and then on top of it I installed xubuntu-desktop package.
[09:54] <fuci> http://img62.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot1by6.png
[09:54] <fuci> Here's a url
[09:55] <fuci> to what I mean :<
[09:55] <nikolam> fuci: Nothing is missing
[09:56] <nikolam> Xfce is configurable, it can be anywhere on screen, wide as you like and dinamically change size
[09:56] <nikolam> look at it as on mac os icons. you also can have multiple bars
[09:56] <nikolam> That what you have is default xfce
[09:57] <nikolam> You can rearege teh way you like
[09:58] <nikolam> fuci: Right-click on it and choose customize panel
[09:59] <nikolam> Or you think on: missing icons on Xfce settings manager.. aaah
[09:59] <nikolam> :0
[09:59] <nikolam> :)
[10:00] <nikolam> See user interface and see at icons you like
[10:00] <fuci> i've changed them :/
[10:00] <fuci> wait
[10:00] <fuci> i can give you nice snapshot
[10:00] <fuci> :D
[10:02] <nikolam> I use Tango theme as default on Xubuntu`s Xfce
[10:02] <nikolam> tango for icons andClearlooks for the rest
[10:03] <fuci> All the others icons changes, as I change the icon-theme, but those few that doesn't have any icon, wont change (suprise)
[10:04] <Snoopotic> hmm
[10:05] <nikolam> What theme and what icon theme
[10:05] <fuci> Theme: Xfce-4.2
[10:05] <fuci> Icontheme: XubuntuStudio
[10:05] <nikolam> choose clearlooks
[10:06] <nikolam> and icon theme tango
[10:06] <fuci> ok
[10:06] <nikolam> I dont have iconstudio here. Maybe is that
[10:06] <arci> when i do sudo apt-get install irssi
[10:06] <nikolam> Did it fix?
[10:06] <arci> i get alot of error
[10:06] <arci> http://pastebin.com/m115111e8
[10:07] <fuci> No effect on the hiding icons :3
[10:07] <arci> anyone understand all those crappy errors?
[10:07] <fuci> Well, I might as well try rebooting my system. brb
[10:11] <fuci> No effect.
[11:18] <Thurin1> How do I stop XFCE from shutting off my monitor ever 15 minutes or so?
[11:27] <gerro> how can I get iso mounting support in my gui?
[11:27] <gerro> I found this guide for nautilus http://www.ubuntugeek.com/mount-and-unmout-iso-images-without-burning-them.html
[11:28] <gerro> will it work for thunar?
[11:37] <Thurin1> gerro, Not to my knowledge, no.
[11:38] <Thurin1> Nautilus is a bit more 'advanced' than Thunar, Thunar is quite basic...
[11:38] <Kilroo> Thurin1: System > Screensaver Settings, isn't it?
[11:38] <Thurin1> Kilroo, I do not have a screen saver settings.. :|
[11:38] <Thurin1> Perhaps I should install one..
[11:39] <Kilroo> Oh.
[11:39] <Kilroo> Mine came with that.
[11:39] <Thurin1> Since I am not actually in Xubuntu.. but Debian with XFCE, but since Ubuntu is based on Debian I would think the procedure would be relatively the same...
[11:39] <Kilroo> Ah
[11:40] <gerro> Thurin1: my question was how to add scripts to the right click function
[11:41] <gerro> that should be possible for thunar or xfce which ever but how would I go about doing it, surely its not the same method right?
[11:43] <gerro> http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2007/06/mount-and-unmount-isomdfnrg-images.html never mind this app seems to cover all that and then some :D
[11:43] <gerro> wonder if I can use that for remastering xubuntu CDs
[12:20] <msmauricio> Boa noite a todos
[12:20] <msmauricio> gostaria que no meu xubutu ficasse a mostra os icones no desktop, algum poderia ajudar?
[12:20] <TheSheep> !es | msmauricio
[12:20] <Ubotu> msmauricio: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:21] <msmauricio> ok, thanks
[12:22] <TheSheep> msmauricio: I could help you if you tell me what "mostra" means :)
[12:22] <msmauricio> mostra is equal visualizations
[12:22] <msmauricio> view
[12:23] <msmauricio> i like view icons in my desktop
[12:23] <msmauricio> icons, my computer, trash
[12:23] <TheSheep> msmauricio: settings -> desktop settings -> behavior
[12:24] <TheSheep> msmauricio: there are settings to enable the icons
[12:24] <msmauricio> who to change language of xubuntu?
[12:25] <TheSheep> msmauricio: you can choose language on the login screen
[12:25] <msmauricio> my xubuntu is language portuguese
[12:25] <msmauricio> ok, very thanks
[12:25] <TheSheep> msmauricio: go to system->language support  to install additional languages
[12:26] <TheSheep> msmauricio: adjustes ->
[12:26] <TheSheep> ajustes desktop
[12:26] <TheSheep> then the "comportamento"
[12:26] <TheSheep> or something like that
[12:26] <TheSheep> using http://translate.google.com
[12:27] <TheSheep> !po
[12:27] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about po - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:27] <TheSheep> :/
[12:27] <TheSheep> !pt
[12:27] <Ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[12:27] <TheSheep> ha
[12:27] <TheSheep> msmauricio: sorry for confusing with Spanish
[12:27] <msmauricio> no problem
[12:28] <msmauricio> now, i go install support of others language
[01:02] <herd> Anyone on gutsy in here?
[01:03] <TheSheep> !anybody
[01:03] <Ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:04] <herd> OK. The question is: Since gutsy, GTK-Tooltips seem broken, not correctly located. Is this going to be fixed in GTK upstream or should a XFCE developer work around?
[01:05] <TheSheep> herd: "correctly located"? seem fine for me...
[01:06] <TheSheep> herd: they are located just below and to the right of the mouse cursor
[01:07] <herd> Well, in feisty, tooltips would not cover the panels and update several times a second, so that net/cpu load etc. updates could be seen.
[01:08] <TheSheep> herd: maybe report a bug about it
[01:08] <TheSheep> herd: or is it reported already?
[01:10] <herd> I did not find such a report or bug so I was asking myself if it as my system only. Do your panel item tooltips behave differently since feisty?
[01:10] <herd> *was
[01:10] <TheSheep> herd: I didn't notice any change, but I don't really use any tooltips for anything
[01:11] <Jester45> i bet you move to fast for them to come up or you dont use a mouse
[01:12] <herd> I'm developing a media player remote panel item and I'm not really happy that they take five seconds to appear.
[01:12] <TheSheep> herd: I believe you can set it in your gtk settings somehow
[01:13] <TheSheep> Jester45: I use a tablet


[19:41] <hakermania> Hello how do I do that(e.g.): ***hakermania hungs ikonia
[20:02]  * hakermania says that you are not helpful here


[08:21] <schopin> bandali: I'm also on +1, and my operating principle is to do as much debugging as I can on identified issues (e.g. FTBFS), but just stage those in a PPA and document it as much as possible. Next +1 shift should likely pick them up and run with it once the floodgates are open.
[08:22] <bdmurray> submit patches to debian?
[08:55] <schopin> bdmurray: when applicable, sure :)
[11:56] <seb128> @pilot in
[14:09] <jawn-smith> Hey waveform any ISOs I could help with? I've got my CM4 and 400 handy
[14:09] <waveform> oh, if you want to test the mantic final ISOs on the CM4 that'd be *great*
[14:11] <jawn-smith> On it
[14:11] <waveform> (my CM3's eMMC is already fried, my CM3+'s is probably on the way to being fried, so I leave the CM4 until last in case I have to request a rebuild prior to getting to it!)
[14:11] <waveform> I forget which CM4 you've got -- eMMC or lite?
[14:12] <jawn-smith> I have a few. I have the lite in 2GB mem, and the eMMC in 1GB and... I think 4GB?
[14:13] <waveform> hmmm, any idea what size eMMC? The reason I ask is that I've only got one with 8GB eMMC so I can never test the desktop on it (as the image is larger than that), so if your 4GB CM4 has the 16 or 32GB eMMC it'd be great to test the destkop image on that (for once!)
[14:14] <jawn-smith> I think it's the 8GB eMMC but let me check
[14:18] <waveform> oh, and if I don't get to them before-hand the desktop images also need testing but that's much lower priority (they were already tested (and passed) on the "initial" final image, and the respin shouldn't have affected them in any way so I've prioritized testing the server images, but it'd be good to double-check)
[14:29] <jawn-smith> yeah it's only 8GB eMMC
[14:30] <waveform> okay, don't worry about the desktop images on the CM4 then
[14:34] <jawn-smith> Flashing the arm64 image now
[14:40] <sil2100> jawn-smith: woohoo!
[14:40] <mclemenceau> o/ jawn-smith
[14:40] <sil2100> jawn-smith: oh, while you're here, we have CI failing for ubuntu-image! ;)
[14:41] <sil2100> Man, I've got soo much for you to work on, so much fun, much wow
[14:47] <seb128> @pilot out
[14:56] <jawn-smith> lol, I could probably take a look
[17:31] <mwhudson> haha
[18:18] <jawn-smith> waveform: for when you're back, I successfully recreated LP: #2038964. What now?
[18:18] -ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2038964 in ubuntu-settings (Ubuntu) "raspi ethernet rename is racy" [High, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2038964
[18:19] <waveform> jawn-smith, ahh ... have a look in #ubuntu-arm
[18:21] <jawn-smith> oof, do you want me to confirm your fix somehow?
[19:06] <jawn-smith> waveform: I've confirmed your fix works. I approved but I imagine code freeze applies unless someone tells me otherwise
[19:06] <jawn-smith> unfortunately I think my IO board needs to be replaced for me to test these CM4 images


[00:51] <Unit193> bluesabre: Speaking of which, how much, or what info do you want me to pass along when I get it?
[00:52] <bluesabre> "it?"
[00:53] <Unit193> it=info
[00:55] <bluesabre> suppose I'll take any info available
[05:12] <Unit193> knome: So when should we finish those translation things?
[06:15] <Unit193> How do you tell who has commit access to an Xfce repo?
[07:00] <cub> morning knome, are you around?
[07:15] <ali1234> Unit193: check the commit log basically. and filter out any commits containing the word "translation" - which is about 97% of them
[07:42] <knome> Unit193, "some day"
[07:42] <knome> Unit193, i'll have suitable computer time probably next week
[07:42] <knome> cub, what's up?
[07:53] <cub> Hi knome, I was updating a test installation of the Ubuntu Studio site and have some weird caching issues when doing changes in the theme. Thought you might now something about that?
[07:53] <cub> for instance when I change a colour in reset.css it doesn't apply until later, randomly
[08:00] <knome> cub, there's no caching in the theme so it must come from (a) wordpress (plugin)  or the server
[08:00] <knome> wordpress itself does not cache
[08:01] <cub> that's what I thought, but I only get this behaviour on the ubuntu studio theme.
[08:02] <cub> thanks knome
[08:02] <knome> that's weird
[08:03] <knome> what you can do is access the reset.css directly in your browser and hard refresh
[08:04] <cub> yup did that. It has the new settings but still the browser show the old colour. Cleared all my caches and even tried another browser
[08:04] <cub> then after I got coffee it changed.
[08:04] <cub> So I did another change...and is still waiting for it to show. :P strange.
[08:05] <cub> anyway, then I know there's no secret stuff hidden somewhere
[08:05] <knome> :)
[08:50] <elfy> ochosi: I did actually see that mail - but didn't say anything :)
[08:56] <ochosi> elfy: what mail?
[10:34] <bluesabre> ochosi, knome, any feedback? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeanDavis/DeveloperApplication
[10:57] <elfy> ochosi: the alpha participation one
[11:04] <elfy> just so you know I'm at that list and watch for those things
[11:10] <ochosi> ah good, thanks elfy
[11:10] <bluesabre> ochosi, knome, feel free to add support in the Comments section there too ;)
[11:10] <ochosi> will do!
[11:18] <ochosi> bluesabre: is it on purpose that you don't list mugshot and menulibre in areas of involvement?
[11:18] <ochosi> err, areas of work
[11:18] <ochosi> i mean you do mention them, but a lot more briefly
[11:18] <bluesabre> that section indicated that it was work done with other devs, suppose I should add them anyway
[11:18] <ochosi> and after all, two of them you've written from scratch and one of them you've practically re-done
[11:19] <ochosi> ah right
[11:19] <ochosi> i guess i should take a look at the template...
[11:19] <ochosi> btw, light-locker-settings is missing
[11:19] <ochosi> if you wanna mention that
[11:19] <bluesabre> oh yeah
[11:19] <ochosi> we can drop the screensaver part of lls in 14.10 hopefully btw
[11:20] <ochosi> all hail xfpm :)
[11:20] <bluesabre> woot
[11:20] <ochosi> that is also quite good because it means users have more finegrain control over blanking/dpms again
[11:20] <ochosi> with on-ac and on-battery settings
[11:21] <ochosi> so yeah, the lls dialog will shrink
[11:21] <ochosi> ideally the lock on suspend button will also go away in some way
[11:22] <ochosi> then there'll only be two more settings left in lls...
[13:22] <ochosi> elfy: ever heard of slack?
[13:23] <ochosi> i figured i'd point you to it (since you're the "new team tools" guy). i just started trying it a bit as the elementary folks are using it and invited me to join
[13:23] <ochosi> https://slack.com/is
[14:05] <knome> bluesabre, got to get to that later
[14:11] <elfy> ochosi: no not seen that - and I was then "new team tools" guy once
[14:19] <ochosi> elfy: once "new team tools"-guy, always "new team tools"-guy ;D
[14:22] <elfy> no thanks ;)
[17:30] <ali1234> wheeeeee a bug
[17:31] <ali1234> apparently my transer will be complete in ~11 million years
[17:55] <ali1234> https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9743
[20:56] <ochosi> ali1234: heh, those dialogs have never spoken "the truth" though
[20:59] <ali1234> yeah but this is a straight up bug
[20:59] <ali1234> also network copy is broken
[20:59] <ochosi> humm
[20:59] <ochosi> i was thinking of this though: http://xkcd.com/612/
[20:59] <ali1234> when it fails to copy a file, it delete the failed copy, then uploads it again under a temporary name, then copies it to the correct name. the copy downloads and uploads the file again.
[21:00] <ali1234> that is probably a gvfs bug though
[21:00] <ali1234> 11 million years is blatantly an integer overflow...
[21:01] <ali1234> the estimate can be innaccurate but not *that* innacurate
[21:02] <ochosi> :)
[21:02] <ali1234> this happens because it thinks the download is more than 100% complete
[21:03] <ochosi> elfy: thanks for adding the links to the agenda, i guess i was too lazy for that... (as was Unit193)
[21:03] <ali1234> which is a bug in itself not related to the time calculation
[21:03] <ochosi> so it's a combination of a thunar bug and a gvfs bug
[21:03] <ali1234> nah, they are two different bugs
[21:04] <ali1234> when thunar retries a download, it doesn't subtract the failed bytes from the total transfered amount
[21:04] <ali1234> and when you move/rename a file on a gvfs samba share, it downloads the file and uploads it again under the new name, which is incredibly innefficient
[21:06] <ochosi> yeah, that would explain why i've always used scp or rsync for remote transfers in lieu of thunar
[21:06] <ali1234> either one can be reproduced separately
[21:06] <ali1234> i just happened to hit them both at the same time
[21:07] <Unit193> ochosi: Hmm?
[21:12] <ochosi> Unit193: the meeting page, nvm
[21:12] <Unit193> I won't be there.
[21:12] <elfy> it'll go on the m/l
[21:15] <Unit193> Just informin'
[21:16] <elfy> I doubt very much if you'll be the only one
[21:16]  * ochosi will try
[21:16] <elfy> ochosi: you expecting a vote for inxi and hexcaht?
[21:17] <ochosi> nope
[21:17] <ochosi> well, let's say i hope there won't be votes, both seem straightforward changes
[21:17] <Unit193> Should I say I'm +1 both?
[21:17] <elfy> ochosi: really?
[21:17] <ochosi> yeah, not bad
[21:18] <elfy> hexchat won't get a +1 from me atm - even if it is active
[21:18] <ochosi> elfy: well i presume you'll raise concerns about hexchat, but inxi seems straight forward
[21:18] <elfy> yep
[21:18] <ochosi> thing is, i don't use xchat or hexchat and haven't used graphical irc apps for a loooong time
[21:19] <elfy> :)
[21:19] <ochosi> i'm even wondering whether we should ship one at all, because we have pidgin and all
[21:20] <elfy> one of those things I guess
[21:20] <elfy> I wonder why we ship gimp - never use that :)
[21:20] <Unit193> Hey andrzejr: https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10509 and https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10627 have patches in them that are fairly well tested (they're in Xubuntu), would you consider pushing?
[21:21] <Unit193> ochosi: Pidgin isn't IRC.
[21:21] <elfy> but it *works* for it
[21:22] <ochosi> Unit193: pidgin might not *be* irc, but it does it
[21:23] <ochosi> thing is, we want a lean package-set still
[21:23] <ochosi> irc is mostly there for support, it's not "productivity"
[21:23] <ochosi> so as long as it works...
[21:24]  * ochosi quietly apologizes for the implicit flip-flop on his earlier "both seem straightforward" position
[21:24] <elfy> lol
[21:38] <Unit193> I'm still +1 to both, but dropping one doesn't sound too bad.
[21:40] <ochosi> i guess we could try to figure out whether we can set up pidgin easily so that it does what we want
[21:40] <ochosi> (connect to freenode and open #xubuntu, e.g. when clicked from the slideshow or whatever other place)
[21:41] <ochosi> Unit193: care to take a look at that ^`?
[21:41] <ali1234> pidgin is best irc
[21:43] <ochosi> ali1234: can we set up the config for it to do that by default though?
[21:43] <ochosi> seems with xchat it wasn't possible and it isn't with hexchat either
[21:44] <Unit193> Because of a shared repo with Ubuntu.
[21:45] <ali1234> probably not
[21:45] <ali1234> i think we should ship seamonkey instead of firefox :)
[21:45] <elfy> I vote for IE6
[21:45] <Unit193> Opera.
[21:46] <ali1234> it's faster, smaller, uses gtk2... unfortunately it's not in the repos :)
[21:46] <Unit193> I rather like Xombrero, personally.
[21:47] <ochosi> oh lord, what have i done...
[21:47] <Unit193> ochosi: Started browser wars.
[21:48] <elfy> ochosi: you said it was straightforward - remember not to do that again :p
[21:48] <Unit193> So much worse than libreoffice vs gnome office.  Next up, text editor wars.
[21:49] <elfy> anyway - I'm done for today - cya tomorrow
[21:52] <ochosi> Unit193: well for text editors we at least have a xfce app
[21:52] <Unit193> ochosi: Midori.
[21:53] <ali1234> what is the mate gedit fork called? we should ship that
[21:54] <Unit193> gmate
[21:54] <ochosi> Unit193: midori isn't xfce anymore
[21:55] <ali1234> no, pluma
[21:55] <Unit193> ochosi: Still developed by the same people, IIRC.
[21:55] <Unit193> But anywho.
[21:55] <ali1234> i drank some mate the other day. it is weird
[21:55] <ochosi> Unit193: yeah, well, pretty much. i wouldn't mind that, but we'd also have to switch to a different email app
[21:55] <ali1234> when you brew it, it's bright yellow
[21:55] <ali1234> but if you leave it for like half an hour it turns bright green
[21:56] <Unit193> ...That's worrying.
[21:56] <ochosi> yeah, mate tea is great
[21:56] <ochosi> has lotsa caffeine
[21:56] <ochosi> yummy
[21:56] <Unit193> ochosi: I was kidding, midori isn't so great and is outdated in Debian.
[21:56] <ali1234> tastes exactly like green tea
[21:56] <ali1234> probably similar caffeine content
[21:58] <Unit193> Has anyone helped review the Suite C testcases?
[22:46] <ochosi> Unit193: humm, the ones in the staging ppa all failed to build
[22:47] <ochosi> https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/xubuntu-staging
[22:48] <Unit193> ochosi: Talked to blues last night about that, xfpm is a weird failure that I should fix, parole was a stupid mistake on my part that's been fixed.
[22:50] <ochosi> ah cool
[23:00] <bluesabre> hey guys
[23:00] <ochosi> righty, so i've tested slack for a day, not too bad, i have to say
[23:00] <ochosi> intuitive ui and good overview, history search etc
[23:00] <bluesabre> cool, does it do much more than irc + google drive?
[23:01] <ochosi> the history-search is quite useful
[23:01] <ochosi> and the backlog is endless
[23:01] <bluesabre> cool
[23:01] <ochosi> so ppl don't need a remote login in order not to miss anything
[23:01] <ochosi> i think you can also somehow group conversations with a topic or something
[23:02] <ochosi> haven't looked into that very much though
[23:03] <Unit193> You said slack, I'm thinking OS.
[23:03] <ochosi> right yeah, not that
[23:05] <Unit193> ochosi, bluesabre: You haz mail.
[23:12] <knome> pleia2, marketing lead: https://twitter.com/Avanninen/status/477714055520862208
[23:19] <Unit193> bluesabre: Danke.
[23:28] <bluesabre> Unit193: sure thing


[21:59] <benonsoftware> Hello everyone
[22:00] <benonsoftware> I need some help fixing a typo bug, I have pulled the branch to my machine then fixed it, what do I do next?
[22:08] <jbicha> benonsoftware: thanks for helping out with docs!
[22:09] <benonsoftware> jbicha: I just saw the typo on the list and thought I would help. But I need help uploading it to LP
[22:11] <jbicha> well you should be able to do bzr commit and then bzr push lp:~benny/ubuntu-docs/fix-for-lp921227
[22:11] <jbicha> or something like that
[22:11] <benonsoftware> jbicha: Thank you very much
[22:14] <benonsoftware> and now do I just propose for merging?
[22:15] <jbicha> navigate to https://code.launchpad.net/~benny/ubuntu-docs/fix-for-lp921227 and click the propose for merging button
[22:15] <benonsoftware> Thanks
[22:18] <benonsoftware> Done
[22:20] <jbicha> benonsoftware: next time wait until it's actually merged into the main branch before setting it to fix committed
[22:20] <jbicha> it's fine now though, thanks very much for your contribution!
[22:25] <benonsoftware> Ok, sorry


[01:03] <jbicha> oh, the old gnome-desktop in Ubuntu had an epoch. Neat
[07:07] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[07:17] <ricotz> hell oSoMoN
[07:17] <ricotz> *hello
[07:22] <oSoMoN> hell yeah!
[07:22] <oSoMoN> hi ricotz :)
[07:24] <duflu> Hi oSoMoN and ricotz
[07:30] <oSoMoN> hey duflu
[07:32] <ricotz> hi duflu
[07:50] <jpnurmi> good morning
[07:57] <duflu> Morning jpnurmi
[07:58] <jpnurmi> hey duflu
[08:09] <didrocks> good morning
[08:09] <duflu> Hi didrocks
[08:11] <jpnurmi> hey didrocks
[08:17] <didrocks> hey duflu, jpnurmi
[08:42] <jibel> Good morning all
[08:43] <duflu> Hi jibel
[08:43] <didrocks> hey jibel
[08:49] <jibel> hi didrocks duflu
[08:50] <oSoMoN> good morning jpnurmi, didrocks, jibel
[08:51] <didrocks> salut oSoMoN
[09:01] <jibel> salut oSoMoN
[09:26] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[09:26] <oSoMoN> salut seb128
[09:27] <seb128> lut oSoMoN, en forme ?
[09:27] <oSoMoN> ça va, et toi?
[09:29] <seb128> nickel !
[09:31] <duflu> Hi seb128
[09:36] <seb128> hey duflu, how are you?
[09:37] <duflu> seb128, good today but again sick yesterday. :/
[09:37] <jpnurmi> hey oSoMoN jibel seb128
[09:37] <seb128> duflu, :-(
[09:37] <seb128> hey jpnurmi, how are you?
[09:42] <jpnurmi> seb128, it was a rainy weekend so i ended up playing with the flutter-snap ci. i thought i'd never get it to work with nested docker containers and nasty systemd/snapd issues but in the end i managed to get it to work on a bunch of ubuntu versions and a few other distros too - achievement unlocked! :)
[09:44] <jpnurmi> oh, and it was linking to a random mixture of snap vs. host libs and crt object which was causing all those libc version conflicts
[09:45] <seb128> classic snaps are no fun for those issues :-/
[09:45] <seb128> sounds like productive hack still though :-)
[10:27] <didrocks> hey seb128
[10:35] <oSoMoN> seb128, you might be interested in https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/thunderbird/thunderbird.jammy/revision/672 , https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/thunderbird/thunderbird.jammy/revision/674 and https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/thunderbird/thunderbird.jammy/revision/675 for the thunderbird snap
[10:38] <Nafallo> jpnurmi: heh, the prognosis seem to say rain and snow for the next 10 days. looking forward to seeing what you do with it :-D
[10:39] <oSoMoN> :)
[10:40] <Nafallo> I was watching movies and youtube videos all weekend :-)
[10:52] <seb128> oSoMoN, thanks
[10:52] <seb128> lut didrocks
[12:55] <jbicha> good morning
[13:18] <seb128> hey jbicha, how are you?
[13:26] <jbicha> good
[13:27] <jbicha> Nautilus is staying gtk3 for 42. Good news for us: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/ftp-release-list/2022-February/msg00034.html
[13:31] <oSoMoN> good morning jbicha
[13:35] <seb128> 👍
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[16:53] <oSoMoN> ricotz, seen https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1751153#c26 ?
[16:54] <oSoMoN> I think it is sufficient to rename the installed desktop file to firefox-beta.desktop
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[17:38] <ricotz> oSoMoN, hmm, I see, renaming the desktop would cause some disruption, everytime switching between beta and release, I would rather patch the wmclass to match the release for the deb builds
[17:46] <oSoMoN> ricotz, ack, I'll test whether this works as expected
[17:46] <ricotz> oSoMoN, https://paste.debian.net/plain/1230893
[17:53] <ricotz> oSoMoN, regarding firefox arm64, I think it is best to extent the armhf linker patch to arm64?
[17:54] <ricotz> I mean the thin-lto
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[18:16] <oSoMoN> ricotz, StartupWMClass seems to work as expected, are you going to commit that patch to the beta branches?
[18:26] <ricotz> oSoMoN, yes, I will include in beta 5
[18:26] <oSoMoN> ricotz, thanks!
[18:26] <oSoMoN> ricotz, re-thinlto on arm64, so far we've managed to get by with retries, but I wouldn't be opposed to extending the patch
[18:27] <ricotz> oSoMoN, it seems retries are required more frequent :(
[18:27] <ricotz> the trunk builds are using thin-lto for arm64 and don't show the failure
[18:28] <oSoMoN> let's go ahead with this, then
[18:28] <ricotz> ok, will do
[18:42] <jbicha> ricotz: I am trying to add support for the GNOME 42 dark theme preference to a Vala app but I get this error
[18:42] <jbicha> error: `Hdy.StyleManager' is not available in libhandy-1 1.5.90. Use libhandy-1 >= 1.6
[18:42] <jbicha> libhandy 1.6 hasn't been released yet. Can we get that version annotation adjusted?
[18:43] <jbicha> (I need Hdy.ColorScheme too)
[18:49] <ricotz> jbicha, you can add "--disable-since-check" to vala args, the version "1.6" is defined in the upstream documentation/gir
[18:51] <jbicha> is it a bug in libhandy or is that acceptable to mark the version like that?
[18:52] <ricotz> it is the usual way to refer to the stable release which will include the specific symbol
[18:53] <ricotz> vala might be a bit strict here, but it avoids obvious developer errors
[18:53] <jbicha> thanks :)
[19:28] <oSoMoN> seb128, could https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/since-update-to-jelly-wayland-do-not-anymore-work/26681 be the gdm bug you fixed last week?
[19:29] <seb128> oSoMoN, no
[19:29] <seb128> the gdm bug was invalid .config permission which would lead to gdm failing to start and only impacting new installs
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[19:44] <oSoMoN> seb128, ack. That was just a random uninformed guess, this post will need following up.
[21:58] <jbicha> seb128: the vanilla-gnome-default-settings package runs scripts to switch Ubuntu's login screen to the GNOME default so that is still useful to some people and that's the part that broke in 21.10
[22:00] <seb128> jbicha, ack, we might still want to simplify it and remove the gsettings key override in the next upload?
[22:02] <jbicha> yes
[22:04] <jbicha> I think the remaining active uploaders *like* the Ubuntu customizations so the package hadn't been looked after much. 😂
[22:04] <seb128> :-)


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