[02:43]  * slangasek giggles at the predicted http://q-funk.blogspot.com/2010/05/ubuntu-building-its-i386-libc6-with.html


[01:16] <Shorty> quick question
[01:16] <Shorty> i got 10.10 64bit installed on my system
[01:17] <Shorty> is there a way i can make a 32bit installation cd via my current system or do i need to download it
[01:17] <Cheri703> My understanding (which may be incorrect) is that you need to download it
[01:17] <Shorty> anyone?
[01:17] <Shorty> oh ok
[01:18] <Cheri703> I don't believe you can generate a livecd from an installed system
[01:18] <Shorty> should i download it in windows since or does it matter
[01:18] <Cheri703> (again, someone may correct me)
[01:18] <Cheri703> doesn't matter, it's a full iso
[01:18] <Shorty> kk
[01:21] <Shorty> thanks
[03:19] <joe1234> does anyone know how to downgrade to 10.4?
[03:25] <Izinucs_> joe1234: reinsall is the only way
[03:26] <stlsaint> joe1234: there is no downgrade, a reinstall as stated above is what is required
[03:27] <joe1234> i have it on my flash drive to attempt to reinstall it. however, when i restart the boot menu doesn't recognize my usb drive
[03:27] <joe1234> what should i do?
[03:41] <zkriesse> sup paultag
[03:41] <stlsaint> joe1234: you have linux installed on your usb and you are wanting to do what with it??
[03:41] <paultag> yo
[03:42] <zkriesse> http://www.youtube.com/user/zkriesse?feature=mhum#p/c/25AC430FF0ED62B4/0/pWRJAHaOrYg
[03:42] <zkriesse> Awesome vid
[03:42] <zkriesse> paultag: how is it goin bro?
[03:43] <paultag> zkriesse: not bad, dude. You?
[03:43] <zkriesse> oh same
[03:43] <zkriesse> Just a little messed up
[03:44] <zkriesse> I had wednesday, thursday, and friday off due to thanksgiving so now I keep thinking I need to go to school right away...it's only saturday
[03:53] <beachbuddah> hey room - apparently I have both GPG and Seahorse installed by default on my laptop, but neither of them are listed on any menu, how do I get them there and actually run the programs?
[03:54] <zkriesse> GPG isn't necessarilly a program...it's the option to make a GPG key
[03:55] <beachbuddah> that's all?
[03:55] <zkriesse> Well I did a class on making GPG keys if you care to look at it
[03:56] <beachbuddah> Id like that very much - thanks
[03:56] <zkriesse> beachbuddah: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/08/07/%23ubuntu-classroom.html
[03:57] <beachbuddah> thanks for the link...one other question before I go - how do you get my nick and the colon before your message to me?
[03:58] <zkriesse> well the colon is a setting but the nick is easy...just start typing it and hit TAB
[03:58] <zkriesse> It'll auto complete the nick
[03:58] <beachbuddah> zkriesse, kewl
[03:58] <beachbuddah> tyvm
[03:58] <zkriesse> :D
[03:58] <zkriesse> Certainly
[03:58] <zkriesse> If you use xchat you can change the nick prefix
[03:58] <beachbuddah> as in?
[03:59] <zkriesse> I use a colon after the nick
[03:59] <zkriesse> But that can be whatever you wish it to be in XChat...
[03:59] <beachbuddah> right and how do I tell xchat to do that or whatever else?
[03:59] <zkriesse> Using XChat currently?
[03:59] <beachbuddah> yes
[04:00] <zkriesse> Go to Settings -> Preferences -> Input Box -> Nick Completion Suffix Field
[04:01] <beachbuddah> zkriesse!  I really appreciate your help
[04:01] <zkriesse> Certainly
[04:01] <beachbuddah> Have a great night - I'm off
[05:24] <greginshenzhen> can anyone help me? I don't know how to get vimeo and youtube video's to play properly. I use both chrome and firefox and the same problem is in both browsers. I have tried to find a solution but so far, nothing...
[07:09] <dentedfxp> Hello, As you can tell by my being here, I'm pretty new to this. I'm running Apache as a web server, and trying to figure out how to access my site files via ftp. I'm not getting very far.
[07:13] <Puck`> dentedfxp: welcome. You need to have an FTP server running on that machine too, like proftpd
[07:14] <dentedfxp> OK, so Apache doesn't come with then?
[07:14] <dentedfxp> can I apt-get it?
[07:14] <Puck`> nope, apache is just a http server
[07:14] <Puck`> sure you can, apt-get install proftpd
[07:15] <dentedfxp> cool... I'll be back, more than likely, thank you
[07:15] <Puck`> the username and password for the connection will be then one you logged in to ubuntu, or the one you have for ubuntu
[07:15] <dentedfxp> makes sense, I suppose
[07:15] <dentedfxp> thanks.
[07:16] <Puck`> for some it's not,s o i was just making sure before you bump in to it, but you're welcome (:
[07:20] <dentedfxp> OK, it says "ProFTPd is started from inetd/xinetd." Like I said, I'm new to this... do I launch it from the Terminal? Because I don't see it in my Applications drop-down.
[07:29] <bioterror> it's a daemon
[07:30] <bioterror> it's not launched from any menu's
[07:30] <bioterror> it's a service
[07:32] <bioterror> huge-n00b, I have a question
[07:32] <bioterror> why ftp and not sftp?
[07:32] <huge-n00b> shoot
[07:33] <huge-n00b> good question. I'm running the site off my local host, what are the advantages of sftp? Security?
[07:34] <bioterror> yes, security
[07:34] <bioterror> all the transfers, even the login is encrypted
[07:34] <huge-n00b> ahhhh
[07:34] <bioterror> it uses sshd
[07:34] <bioterror> and if you're running a server, you usually have a sshd running
[07:37] <zacck> hey
[07:37] <huge-n00b> I just set up httpd last night, one site, single default page, I hate to admit it in public, but I've been using Micro$oft stuff for 20 years, and I'm JUST starting to experiment with Linux... you coulf fill a planet with what I don't know
[07:38] <zacck> funny
[07:38] <bioterror> well
[07:39] <bioterror> microsoft lacks with everything that has something to do with security :D
[07:39] <huge-n00b> well aware of that :D
[07:39] <bioterror> I would use Windows 7 if it has a sshd by default
[07:39] <bioterror> working one
[07:43] <zacck> ubuntu just does it for alot of thingd
[07:43] <zacck> things
[08:35] <bioterror> elfy
[08:35] <hobgoblin> morning
[08:35] <bioterror> hi
[08:42] <bioterror> huge-n00b, did you figure out how to use sftp?
[08:43] <bioterror> lftp sftp://host.to.server/
[08:43] <bioterror> then enter for password
[08:43] <bioterror> login username password
[08:44] <bioterror> cd dir-on-remote-server
[08:44] <bioterror> mirror -Rc dir-on-local-machine
[08:44] <bioterror> and it transfers directory :D
[08:45] <bioterror> lftp >*
[08:51] <huge-n00b> Oy, I'm getting a headache :D I've got sftp up and running. just need to figure out how to point it at my www root, and allow KompoZer to publish files.
[08:51] <bioterror> cd /var/www/
[08:51] <bioterror> or what ever it is :D
[08:52] <huge-n00b> yep... I'm using vsftpd, seems pretty straightforward
[09:11] <huge-n00b> bioterror: thanks for your help, but it's 3:00am local, I'm off to get some sleep, fresh eyes in the morning, Grey cup, Poker and Beers in the afternoon... Good night!
[09:14] <nit-wit> hobgoblin, hey thanks for the help
[09:14] <hobgoblin> ?
[09:14] <nit-wit> hobgoblin, on the forum script
[09:15] <hobgoblin> oic - is that you?
[09:15] <nit-wit> hobgoblin, wilee-nilee
[09:15] <hobgoblin> ooooh - hi again then :)
[09:16] <hobgoblin> I actually almost deleted the post - but in the end decided it would be good to leave it so others might find it and not do it lol
[09:16] <nit-wit> hobgoblin, I forget my last nic this one seemed more appropriate
[09:16] <hobgoblin> ha ha ha
[09:17] <nit-wit> hobgoblin, hey you all practice an amazing amount of tolerance
[09:17] <hobgoblin> nit-wit: and hobgoblin is a lot more appropriate than forestpiskie
[09:17] <hobgoblin> well we try :)
[09:17] <hobgoblin> I'd not be a good admin though ...
[09:18] <nit-wit> hobgoblin, the new users using wubi don't recognize the power of a OSS cd
[09:18] <hobgoblin> nope :)
[09:19] <nit-wit> hobgoblin, cleans, scours, installs lilo, and the disc for recovery
[09:20] <nit-wit> hobgoblin,  back to the forums I figured you were on over here.
[09:20] <hobgoblin> lol
[09:41] <karthick87> hiyas hobgoblin
[09:49] <geekosopher> karthick87: whats up?
[09:49] <karthick87> geekosopher: hi i am doing good.How'z you?
[09:51] <geekosopher> good... so got your kickstart with documentation?
[10:48] <bioterror> ;invite leszek
[15:10] <Prakhar> i have problem with my wireless router dhcp connection..........
[15:12] <Prakhar> hello ........... ubuntu users................. if any body can help me out?????????
[15:12] <UndiFineD> hello Prakhar
[15:12] <Prakhar> hello ........
[15:12] <UndiFineD> what is the issue
[15:13] <Prakhar> i am having intel PRO/Wireless 3945 and i have package iwl3945
[15:14] <Prakhar> i am trying to connect to my wireless router
[15:14] <Prakhar> with a connection named GURUSHIKHAR having dhcp server
[15:15] <UndiFineD> does your computer "see" the router ?
[15:16] <Prakhar> on connecting through "iwconfig" i m able to connect and i m getting access point too.........
[15:16] <UndiFineD> ok :)
[15:16] <Prakhar> but i am unable to ping any of the computers on the network
[15:17] <UndiFineD> mostlikely you did not recieve an ip from the router
[15:17] <Prakhar> yes...........
[15:17] <UndiFineD> what is the output of: sudo ifconfig wlan0
[15:18] <UndiFineD> !paste
[15:18] <ubot2> For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[15:18] <Prakhar> you mean iwconfig wlan0?
[15:18] <UndiFineD> no ifconfig
[15:18] <Prakhar> its showing my network's essid and access point
[15:20] <Prakhar> actually right now i m unable to connect to internet on my ubuntu ............so i m using windows to access internet
[15:22] <Prakhar> i m not using ubuntu right now ............. unable to paste output
[15:23] <UndiFineD> aha
[15:25] <UndiFineD> I was expecting something like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/537497/
[15:25] <UndiFineD> instead of my eth0 it would be your wlan0, with no ip
[15:26] <UndiFineD> with ip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/537498/
[15:28] <Cheri703> I reinstalled ubuntu on my desktop the other day, and the same thing that has happened in the past happened again. For a while, everything is fine, and then for some reason, my home folder changes ownership to root...
[15:29] <UndiFineD> sudo chown -r cheri /home/cheri
[15:29] <Cheri703> yeah, I can do that, but I don't know WHY it's happening in the first place!
[15:29] <Cheri703> (and thanks :) )
[15:30] <UndiFineD> why ? I have seen strange thing happening with encrypted home directories
[15:30] <Cheri703> not encrypted
[15:31] <UndiFineD> does it happen often ? like once a week
[15:31] <UndiFineD> I am thinking of a crontab command that fails
[15:32] <Cheri703> no, just after every reinstall...not sure if some setting gets changed because I use pysdm to setu p the auto mount for my second hdd
[15:32] <UndiFineD> possible backup issues
[15:32] <UndiFineD> reinstall yeah that will do it :) if your user changes user id's
[15:34] <Cheri703> well, my normal setup is: Ubuntu (with home folder) installed on a formatted 20gb hdd, all of my storage on a 320gb hdd that is linked to the other with symlinks in the home folder
[15:35] <UndiFineD> when you first install and create user cheri, it has userid 1001, on the seond install it might become userid 1002, denying you access to files own by non-existant or owned by user 1001
[15:35] <Cheri703> Had full access to the home folder, then suddenly had the locks on them
[15:35] <Cheri703> second hdd is fine
[15:37] <UndiFineD> here is an example: http://paste.ubuntu.com/537502/ user 108 and 135 run but have incorrect users in /etc/passwd
[15:41] <Cheri703> hmm...ok
[15:43] <UndiFineD> now that i look closer, this might actually cause one of my problems, hal
[15:44] <Cheri703> heh
[15:44] <Cheri703> hey, UndiFineD, can I pm you?
[15:44] <UndiFineD> always
[16:27] <Prakhar> sorry Undefined ........ i was disconnected
[16:27] <UndiFineD> wb Prakhar
 aha
 I was expecting something like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/537497/
 instead of my eth0 it would be your wlan0, with no ip
 with ip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/537498/
[16:39] <Prakhar> Please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/537530/
[16:40] <Prakhar> its the output of "sudo ifconfig wlan0"
[16:41] <Prakhar> Hello ..................... Mr. Undefined
[16:43] <UndiFineD> indeed Prakhar , you did not recieve and IPv4 address
[16:44] <UndiFineD> maybe you can temporary set a static one in the same range from the wireless router so atleast you can get online
[16:45] <Prakhar> ok ..... let me try
[17:03] <Prakhar> ok.. i got connected to my network..............now i have to make a pppoe connection
[17:04] <Prakhar> i am trying to use pppconfig for that....
[17:05] <Prakhar> i am not getting what is "Modem com port" and how to find suitable one in my case
[17:07] <Prakhar> Hello........ Mr. Undefined
[17:07] <UndiFineD> sorry Prakhar I do not know
[17:08] <UndiFineD> maybe someone else can take over, I am in a meeting
[17:09] <Prakhar> sorry to disturb............. bye
[17:10] <Prakhar> thax for the help..........
[17:10] <UndiFineD> come again soon Prakhar :)
[17:11] <Prakhar> :)
[17:11] <Prakhar> yap..........
[17:12] <Prakhar> can anybody help me out on pppconfig..........................
[17:18] <Prakhar> can anybody help me out on pppconfig.......................... hello ubuntu users...............
[17:22] <Cheri703> !patience
[17:22] <ubot2> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/
[17:29] <punkaroo> Hi! Does anyone have any experience running Lucid Lynx on a Mac?
[17:29] <punkaroo> I installed the 64 bit version on my MacBook Pro 4,1 and I cannot connect to my wireless network.
[18:15] <Prakhar> if any body knows how to configure modem in wireless router for wvdial..........................  in ubuntu
[18:15] <Prakhar> hello...................... ubuntu users...................................
[18:15] <huge-n00b> Hi, just lurking until I figure out what I'll need help with today :D
[18:16] <huge-n00b> Prakhar: someone should be along in a moment
[18:16] <zkriesse> !ask | Prakhar
[18:16] <ubot2> Prakhar: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[18:16] <bioterror> Prakhar, your sentence makes no sense
[18:17] <Prakhar> actually , i have a router provided by my hostel
[18:18] <Prakhar> for connecting to broadband , i need to make a PPPoE connection
[18:18] <Prakhar>  wirelessly
[18:19] <Prakhar> but wvdial is unable to find modem!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[18:19] <Prakhar> i m using wvdialconf for first time use
[18:20] <Prakhar> no /dev/modem is there
[18:20] <bioterror> I've no experience with PPPoE since I've always owned a real internet connection :(
[18:20] <Prakhar> ok.........
[18:21] <Prakhar> can any other person help me!!!!:)
[18:21] <bioterror> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE some information about PPPoE
[19:19] <walkkenn> Hi, when I set up Ubuntu on my netbook I partitioned 52GB of my hard drive for the windows original OS.  Is there a way I can repartition now and get more of that space for my Ubuntu?
[19:21] <Eleanor> Backup, then try gparted to resize your Ubuntu partition
[19:22] <Eleanor> 1st tme, worked well for me, second time all data went phut.
[19:23] <walkkenn> Which data?  I really don't care about anything on the windows side.
[19:24] <Eleanor> your ubuntu partition data ... it can vanish, too
[19:24] <walkkenn> How do I back that up?
[19:27] <Eleanor> walkkenn: Try this http://www.desktoplinux.com/articles/AT2280165098.html
[19:33] <walkkenn> Thanks, reading it now
[19:36] <walkkenn> I am running ubuntu 10.4, is that 32 or 64 bit
[19:40] <aveilleux> walkkenn: All Ubuntu versions come in 32- or 64-bit variations.
[19:40] <aveilleux> walkkenn: To get your architecture, open Terminal and run uname -r
[19:40] <walkkenn> I am probably running 32 but I just want to be sure.  How can you tell?
[19:41] <aveilleux> walkkenn: I just said how
[19:42] <Eleanor> walkkenn: Backup specific to Ubuntu here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087 but the other link is a fantastic system, hoever, you may have to tweak the instructions for your particular setup
[19:46] <walkkenn> It says: 2.6.32-25-generic  I assuming that means 32 bit
[19:47] <aveilleux> uname -r returned that?
[19:47] <aveilleux> walkkenn: try uname -a
[19:47] <yofel> walkkenn: what does uname -a say??
[19:47] <yofel> -?
[19:49] <walkkenn> Linux HAL2 2.6.32-25-generic #45-Ubuntu SMP Sat Oct 16 19:48:22 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[19:50] <bioterror> i686 = 32bit
[19:53] <aveilleux> walkkenn: x86 is 32-bit, so if you se i486 or i686 then it means 32-bit
[19:53] <aveilleux> walkkenn: x86_64 is 64-bit
[19:54] <walkkenn> OK, thanks
[19:54] <Eleanor> Can someone please tell me how to fix this error message that just started popping up when installing software?  ¨update-binfmts: warning: /usr/share/binfmts/cli: no executable /usr/bin/cli found, but continuing anyway as you request¨
[20:00] <Eleanor> All I can find from a google hunt is people who also have developed my problem, but none who have solved it - is that a common experience or am I missing something?
[20:01] <stlsaint> Eleanor: strange error
[20:01] <aveilleux> Eleanor: Does it prevent anything from being installed?
[20:03] <thewrath> hey guys
[20:03] <thewrath> wow i was in the wrong channel
[20:04] <Eleanor> Things seem to install alright - but it looks like such an ominous warning ...
[20:05] <Eleanor> cli = command line interpreter, right - doesn´t my friend bash need that?
[20:08] <aveilleux> Eleanor: Yes but BASH is the CLI.
[20:08] <Eleanor> stlsaint: all my errors are strnge - my computer does not know how to have ordinary ones
[20:08] <Eleanor> aveilleux: well, it is still there - we were just chatting
[20:10] <Eleanor> I thought bash was a shell that instructed a cli at a lower level
[20:10] <thewrath> aveilleux and Eleanor, no bash is not a CLI
[20:10] <thewrath> Eleanor, you are correct
[20:11] <Eleanor> I remember talking hex to an early Unix cli and then came Korn and we all were relieved
[20:11] <thewrath> right
[20:11] <thewrath> windows also has a CLI
[20:13] <Eleanor> the cli handles system calls like stat(), doesn´t it?
[20:13] <thewrath> stat is used in what language
[20:13] <Eleanor> POSIX function
[20:19] <thewrath> i beleive so yes
[20:23] <Eleanor> After a decade of (urrgggh) of MS-hits it is good to get down to the nitty gritty of computing again, but the GNU/Linux learning curve is still steep at first - you folk are such a help
[20:51] <joe1234> is there a way to boot cd from terminal instead of the startup boot menu? because my startup boot menu isn't recognizing my 10.4 cd (p.s. I'm trying to down grade)
[20:52] <bioterror> joe1234, downgrade how?
[20:53] <joe1234> basically a new clean reinstall because i'm having problems with 10.10
[20:53] <bioterror> yeah
[20:54] <joe1234> so is there anyway to run it from the terminal?
[20:54] <bioterror> your cd has a defect or something?
[20:54] <bioterror> and no, you cant install it from terminal when using that hard drive
[20:55] <joe1234> dammit
[20:55] <joe1234> alright i'll try again
[21:00] <zkriesse> !language | joe1234
[21:00] <ubot2> joe1234: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional..
[21:01] <pedro3005> I don't see anything innappropiate
[22:02] <gnumerous> My primary ubuntu 10.10 desktop is no longer turning on the ethernet, when i reboot it does have blinking lights on the adapter but before i can long in the power lights go dead. I tried a few ifup / ifdown and other commands but now don't have ideas on how to turn on the adapter, need help and direction for further testing
[22:03] <bioterror> sudo dhclient eth0
[22:04] <bioterror> gnumerous, try that in terminal
[22:04] <gnumerous> bioterror: okay, will run to that machine
[22:08] <gnumerous> bioterror: the dhclient ran and ended up with no dhcpoffers.  i also double checked and the ethernet cable is plugged in snug.
[22:08] <bioterror> is your dhcpd server okay?
[22:09] <gnumerous> not to sound ignorant, but this laptop and the desktop in question plug into the same router
[22:10] <gnumerous> bioterror: the network stopped working after i came out of sleep mode, sometimes network or audio doesn't work after coming out of sleep, i don't know if that helps any
[22:11] <bioterror> something wrong with the kernel then
[22:11] <bioterror> what does dmesg say?
[22:12] <gnumerous> just so i know what your asking, you want me to run dmsg command and paste to the ubutnu-past or where you asking about the eth0 current settings?
[22:14] <Cheri703> gnumerous: have you tried disconnecting wireless *within ubuntu, not the cord* and waiting til the message clears, and then reconnecting it?
[22:16] <gnumerous> cheri703: I am not clear on what you mean by disconnecting. i used the ifup and ifdown, is there a different command i should try?
[22:17] <Cheri703> are you using gnome?
[22:17] <gnumerous> yes
[22:17] <Cheri703> ok, if you click on the network icon and choose disconnect (perhaps that's the same as ifup and ifdown, I dunno)
[22:18] <Cheri703> my wireless does a thing where it won't connect after sleep, and disconnecting and leaving it for a minute, and then reconnecting seems to help :/
[22:18] <bioterror> gnumerous, well yeah, it would be nice to know what dmesg prompts and you could pastebin it
[22:18] <bioterror> !pastebin |gnumerous
[22:18] <ubot2> gnumerous: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[22:18] <gnumerous> cheri703: for some reason my laptop has networkmanager applet, but my desktop doesn't seem to have.
[22:18] <Cheri703> hmm...ok
[22:19] <Cheri703> I can't remember how to bring it up, perhaps bioterror can say? (sorry)
[22:19] <gnumerous> bioterror: going to pull out my usb and copy dmesg, brb in a min
[22:19] <bioterror> Cheri703, alt+f2 and "nm-applet"
[22:19] <Cheri703> k
[22:20] <Cheri703> thanks
[22:26] <gnumerous> bioterror: sorry for lengh of the paste and i was unable to pipe the output to a file so its a terminal copy http://paste.ubuntu.com/537630/
[22:29] <Cheri703> gnumerous: see above for how to open the applet
[22:30] <bioterror> gnumerous, you've just rebooted
[22:30] <gnumerous> bio: correct, within and hour or so
[22:30] <bioterror> and you have Intel Pro 1000
[22:32] <bioterror> gnumerous, someone is playing fallout 3! ;D
[22:32] <bioterror> [   19.940366] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready
[22:32] <gnumerous> bioterror: i installed but couldn't get passed the naming, and it freezes..so i keep the dvd there till i fix
[22:35] <bioterror> well
[22:35] <bioterror> network should be usable with these command
[22:35] <bioterror> sudo ifconfig eth0 down
[22:35] <bioterror> sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[22:35] <bioterror> sudo dhclient eth0
[22:36] <bioterror> if not, then we really must dig this problem
[22:36] <thewrath> hey alL!
[22:37] <bioterror> I think I'll take another 4mg dosage of Hydrochloride ;)
[22:39] <bioterror> so I'm here for a while till I get to bed
[22:39] <gnumerous> bioterror: OMG, u has fixed the problem and firefox is pulling up LOLcats sucessfully! Mrow!
[22:40] <bioterror> niiice
[22:40] <thewrath> lolcats?
[22:41] <gnumerous> thewrath: i bow to my cat overlords, and wanted to find humor in solving a very stressful issue to me.
[22:42] <Cheri703> thewrath: www.icanhascheezburger.com
[22:42] <Cheri703> if you don't know what lolcats are
[22:42] <bioterror> :D
[22:42] <bioterror> http://aggregatemadbox.com/bloggregate/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/longcat.jpg I like longcats more
[22:43] <thewrath> ok
[23:29] <thewrath> wat is everyone up to
[23:41] <paultag> thewrath, I just got your FB message, what's up?
[23:41] <thewrath> hey paul
[23:41] <paultag> oy
[23:41] <thewrath> trying to get back on the team that is all
[23:41] <thewrath> again
[23:41] <thewrath> since i have been inactive for ever
[23:42] <paultag> aye
[23:42] <thewrath> umm.... would you be willing to be my "sponsor" if  i need one
[23:42] <paultag> thewrath, I don't have a ton of time, but yeah. I can
[23:42] <thewrath> okay
[23:42] <paultag> thewrath, Cheri703 is my padawan right now
[23:42] <thewrath> that is fine
[23:42] <thewrath> ah i see
[23:42] <paultag> thewrath, but I can help if you need it, you're an ex-member, so it should be painless
[23:42] <thewrath> that is what i figured
[23:42] <thewrath> just wnat to have my ducks in a row in case i have to go through all that
[23:43] <thewrath> i talked to nhandler ealirer
[23:43] <thewrath> *earlier
[23:43] <thewrath> i am setting up a Ubuntu Kickstart server
[23:45] <thewrath> hey walkkenn
[23:45] <thewrath> what did we have to set up?
[23:46] <walkkenn> I am trying to join 15GB of unmounted disc space to my /home space
[23:46] <thewrath> you mean to mount it first i believe
[23:46] <thewrath> then then allocate to that logical volume if i remmeber my linux cheat sheet from work
[23:46] <walkkenn> I am a total nob
[23:46] <thewrath> anyone confirm my answer?
[23:46] <thewrath> hello yeedl
[23:46] <yeedl> hey wrath
[23:46] <walkkenn> but I am trainable
[23:47] <thewrath> walkkenn, that is always good lol
[23:47] <yeedl> just got ubuntu netbook remix 10.10, was hopin for some help
[23:47] <thewrath> walkkenn, just wait until someone can confirm my statement
[23:47] <thewrath> before i start disclosing commands
[23:47] <walkkenn> I am using 10.4 on a netbook
[23:48] <yeedl> yea, was thinkin of goin down to the  .04
[23:48] <thewrath> really quick walkkenn when you run df -kh what is the output, paste it to pastebin.ubuntu.com
[23:48] <thewrath> yeedl, i believe 10.04 is LTS
[23:49] <yeedl> hmph, 10.10 was the default version to download on the website
[23:50] <walkkenn> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[23:50] <walkkenn> /dev/sda6             9.7G  4.1G  5.1G  45% /
[23:50] <walkkenn> none                  491M  284K  491M   1% /dev
[23:50] <walkkenn> none                  496M  608K  495M   1% /dev/shm
[23:50] <walkkenn> none                  496M  208K  495M   1% /var/run
[23:50] <walkkenn> none                  496M     0  496M   0% /var/lock
[23:50] <walkkenn> none                  496M     0  496M   0% /lib/init/rw
[23:50] <walkkenn> none                  9.7G  4.1G  5.1G  45% /var/lib/ureadahead/debugfs
[23:50] <walkkenn> /dev/sda7              84G   21G   59G  27% /home
[23:50] <paultag> !pastebin | walkkenn
[23:50] <ubot2> walkkenn: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[23:50] <yeedl> i was hopin to know if there was any which way to place an app of my choice on the lefthand bar, since i removed a few and the emptiness is killin me
[23:51] <thewrath> walkkenn, where is the 15gb u want to kick over to /home
[23:52] <yeedl> also, is there a keyboard shortcut to pop open a run dialogbox, like in windows?
[23:52] <thewrath> or is it not mounted?
[23:52] <thewrath> yeedl, i punt to paultag or someone else.
[23:52] <thewrath> hey ultush
[23:53] <thewrath> hey GrafeX
[23:54] <UndiFineD> yeedl, ALT+F2
[23:55] <yeedl> undifined, that doesnt seem to work on my ubuntu
[23:55] <UndiFineD> odd
[23:55] <walkkenn> I've got the 15 GB then 8 GB unallocated then 1.5 linux swap then 10 GB / then 62 GB /home
[23:55] <yeedl> i know, right? damn this netbook remix. i want it unmixed. heh
[23:56] <walkkenn> Does it have to move over right next to it for linux to recognize it as space for it to use?
[23:57] <ultush> hi thewrath, new to Ubuntu and IRC, will lurk for a while
[23:57] <thewrath> lol yeedl
[23:57] <thewrath> if it is mounted df  -kh should see it
[23:57] <thewrath> it will have ot be formatted first i beleive
[23:58] <thewrath> so much extra space do you want to allocate to /home?
[23:58] <thewrath> I see you have 84G total for /home and 21G used leaving 59G left
[23:59] <thewrath> hey nit-wit
[23:59] <thewrath> paultag, we need to have what accounts set up?
[23:59] <thewrath> like on launchpad, etc?
[23:59] <yofel> walkkenn: can you pastebin the output of 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda' so we have the partition layout?
[23:59] <nit-wit> thewrath, hey
[23:59] <walkkenn> OK, I was making the assumption that that would be the appropriate place for it.  I want the space to be used by ubuntu should I allocate it somewhere else?


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[00:53] <vorlon> RikMills: as far as I know, we have no standing microrelease exception for KDE Plasma; it would probably make the process for the current SRU a lot smoother if we could get that in place instead of the rather generic test case you currently have for LP: #1986447.  Could you detail how these uploads fit the criteria on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#New_upstream_microreleases ?
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[05:32] <vorlon> hmmm we still should have a way to clean up stale entries in britney's autopkgtest-pending.json on an ongoing basis, but in the meantime it looks like after this britney run things might be sufficiently quiesced that I can nuke the whole file
[05:34] <vorlon> which should substantially reduce p-m runtime again
[06:29] <vorlon> k, 1.5MB json file now reduced instead to 77 lines
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[06:59] <RikMills> vorlon: I don't think we can meet all those criteria for plasma.
[06:59] <RikMills> :(
[07:12] <luis220413> ^ I believe versions ending in ubuntu1 are only for the development release. Am I right?
[07:13] <luis220413> ^ I believe versions ending in ubuntu1 are only for uploads to the development release. Am I right?
[07:14] <tumbleweed> luis220413: nope ubuntu1 just means the first ubuntu upload on top of a debian version
[07:15] <luis220413> I have seen hundreds of security and other updates in a stable release and none have ubuntu1. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdatePreparation#Update_the_packaging
[07:15] <luis220413> *introduce ubuntu1
[07:15] <luis220413> tumbleweed: ^
[07:15] <tumbleweed> generally in a stable release we'll use ubuntu0.1
[07:16] <tumbleweed> or similar, yes
[07:16] <luis220413> tumbleweed: Exactly. But the version number has 22.04 so this can be ignored, but future uploads should use ubuntu0.1.
[07:17] <RikMills> depends entirley on circumstance
[07:18] <RikMills> "I have seen hundreds of security and other updates in a stable release and none have ubuntu1."
[07:18] <RikMills> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cinder/2:20.0.1-0ubuntu1
[07:18] <tumbleweed> yeah, this is a pure-ubuntu package and seems to be self-consistent
[07:45] <vorlon> RikMills: what's the upstream testing story?
[07:46] <vorlon> (for plasma)
[07:47] <vorlon> hm that's fun, why did autopkgtest-pending.json grow back again
[07:51] <luis220413> I need a sponsor for my bind9 update for Kinetic in bug 1986586, even though 2 dependencies are in the universe component (I believe it is not a blocker because they will appear in component-mismatches).
[07:51] <RikMills> vorlon: upstream testing has been hit and miss for plasma. they have/had a jenkins base CI @ build.kde.org, but are moving over to gitlab CI on invent.kde.org
[07:51] <RikMills> BUT so far releases have not been gated on all tests passing
[07:51]  * RikMills rolls eyes
[07:51] <vorlon> RikMills: ok.  these SRUs are going to take some work then, and there are probably going to be packages that need more specific SRU test cases
[07:51] <RikMills> KDE are starting to enforce that, but IIRC so far only for frameworks
[07:53] <RikMills> vorlon: Łukasz has been fine with it done this way before
[07:53] <vorlon> hmm
[07:53] <vorlon> then I guess he can review them again
[07:53] <vorlon> :)
[07:53] <RikMills> well, that was my intent
[07:54] <RikMills> he just doesn't seem to have been around much the past week. which is fair in the summer just after a LTS point release
[07:54] <RikMills> vorlon: I will touch base with him early next week if he is about
[07:56] <luis220413> Sorry, wrong channel.
[08:03] <ginggs> vorlon: if you're still awake
[08:03] <ginggs> zfs-linux/s390x seems to be blocking a few packages; python3-defaults, python3-stdlib-extensions, pam, lsb, etc. -- seemingly due to a kernel/module version mismatch
[08:03] <ginggs> should this be badtest-ed?
[08:04] <vorlon> ginggs: I would like to know why it's failing in -proposed but passing in release :/
[08:04] <vorlon> the test output is opaque
[08:09] <ginggs> vorlon: right, but it's not because of pam or lsb... and the 'all packages from -proposed' fallback doesn't seem to be kicking in
[09:06] <vorlon> britney still spending an awful lot of time polling for migration-reference/0 results that it doesn't need to
[09:07] <vorlon> no reason to be comparing to a baseline if the test in -proposed is passing :/
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[10:47] <tumbleweed>  /43
[10:47] <tumbleweed> grrp
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[22:46] <vorlon> kanashiro_: hey, I see you did the last upload of containerd.  Do you happen to have any plans to upload a newer upstream version before FF? I'm trying to figure out if that would resolve the build failure of golang-github-containerd-stargz-snapshotter


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[01:55] <k1l_> what cables/dongles/adapters do i need to plug my n4 into dockmode?
[02:01] <dobey> k1l_: slimport mhl for the hdmi, and bt kb/mouse if you mean for the "convergence" mode when docked
[02:05] <k1l_> hmm, dont have a bt mouse.
[02:25] <andywork> dobey: does it really have to be an mhl adapter?
[02:26] <k1l_> iirc i saw some pictures with some otg cables using a usb mouse?
[02:27] <dobey> andywork: as opposed to what?
[02:28] <andywork> some new version that doesn't require external power for the adapter
[02:28] <dobey> k1l_: yeah, on the device afaik. i'm not sure mhl+usb are doable on the slimport. but i'm not 100% certain.
[02:29] <k1l_> dobey: a right
[02:30] <dobey> eh?
[02:30] <dobey> "mhl slimport adapter" search on amazon shows me lots of things that don't have external power adapters
[02:31] <andywork> ok, then perhaps i am wrong
[02:32] <Elleo> dobey: aren't mhl and slimport different things? I thought they were competing standards, so you'd either have an MHL adaptor or a slimport adapter depending on the device (slimport for nexus 4)
[02:33] <dobey> Elleo: i have no idea about that. afaik, micro usb is micro usb
[02:34] <dobey> i guess http://www.tested.com/tech/android/457205-mhl-vs-slimport/ answers it
[02:35] <andywork> i did a quick search, "SlimPort is an alternative to Mobile High Definition Link (MHL)"
[02:35] <dobey> Elleo: i guess the answer is "everybody really wants miracast anyway"
[02:37] <Elleo> dobey: maybe, I'm not certain miracast will be that great for desktop style usage due to the increased latency; it's good for streaming videos and stuff to a display, but I'm not sure it'll be as good as MHL or SlimPort for more interactive usage
[02:37] <Elleo> I'd be very happy if I'm wrong about that though
[02:38] <k1l_> Elleo: with todays hardware or in general?
[02:40] <dobey> Elleo: eh, i don't know enough about all the wireless video or usb-to-whatever options to say much more about it. it's not something i'm likely to ever use anyway. i'm more interested in system integration features
[02:41] <Elleo> k1l_: not sure, I wouldn't rule anything out in terms of improvements being made, but the primary aim of the standard was multimedia display rather than interactive use, so I doubt latency gets that much attention
[02:42] <k1l_> ah ok
[02:42] <Elleo> k1l_: it only takes a small amount of latency for things like mouse movements to feel really awkward
[02:42] <Elleo> but I don't know how much can be tweaked from the ubuntu side
[02:44] <dobey> Elleo: well, the stereo in my truck has some thing where it can use miracast from the phone, and bluetooth, to do things. that doesn't have a mouse pointer though, just uses the stereo for the touch screen to tap on things and such
[02:44] <dobey> i don't know how well it works either though
[02:44] <dobey> but anyway
[02:45] <Elleo> yeah, from a bit of googling it sounds like while most adapters have pretty awful latency (300ms - 3000ms) there are some very low latency ones
[02:45] <Elleo> so it seems possible to do low latency stuff with miracast
[02:45] <dobey> can't do too much with my nexus 5 anyway, without bluetooth
[02:46] <Elleo> anyway, I should get to bed :)
[02:47] <dobey> yeah. it's horribly cold here, so i think it's time to go bury myself for the night
[07:25] <delijati> app publish is down "Service unavailable. Please try again later"
[09:16] <V99> hi everyone
[09:49] <JamesTait> Good evening all!  Have a rotten Monday, and a terrible Opposite Day! 😃
[11:32] <zzarr> hello!
[11:33] <zzarr> is there a way to transmit the display wireless from my phone? (MX4)
[11:41] <lotuspsychje> zzarr: transmit?
[11:48] <zzarr> lotuspsychje, what I meant was connect a external display over a wireless protocol
[11:48] <lotuspsychje> zzarr: you want to stream something from your phone to another screen over wifi?
[11:51] <zzarr> lotuspsychje, yes, I wish to have a desktop environment on an external monitor over a wireless connection
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> zzarr: how about you wait for the convergence to happen? but i think that will be over cable
[11:54] <zzarr> lotuspsychje, but if I understand it correctly convergence is coming in the next update
[11:54] <lotuspsychje> i think that will be in OTA9 indeed
[11:55] <zzarr> sadly my phone don't have the possibility to connect an external monitor via cable
[11:57] <lotuspsychje> zzarr: mx4 does have an usb right?
[11:57] <zzarr> yes, but no HDMI support
[11:58] <lotuspsychje> zzarr: i think some devices will be able to convergence over the usb port with adapter
[11:58] <lotuspsychje> zzarr: but not sure about mx4, dont shoot me ok :p
[11:59] <zzarr> the MX4 don't have any support for MHL
[11:59] <zzarr> (HDMI over USB)
[12:00] <lotuspsychje> zzarr: ah, then im not sure mate
[12:00] <lotuspsychje> zzarr: we soon all will know whats gonna happen on ota9
[12:00] <zzarr> yes
[12:10] <zzarr> maybe Aethercast is the answer
[12:10] <delijati> app publish is not working anymore
[12:11] <lotuspsychje> delijati: file a bug or find an existing bug?
[12:11] <robin-hero> MX4 doesn't support SlimPort or MHL, so you can't connect to an external monitor via cable. But Canonical is working on a wireless solution: https://launchpad.net/aethercast
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> robin-hero: tnx for the info mate
[12:12] <robin-hero> np
[12:12] <tathhu> :o
[12:13] <delijati> @lotuspsychje alread did
[12:13] <zzarr> robin-hero, I knew that SlimPort and MHL don't work, but do you know if aethercast will be available in OTA-9?
[12:15] <robin-hero> zarr, certainly not, it is still in a very early stage, maybe the end of the year. but this is only a speculation, I'm not a Canonical employee
[12:15] <delijati> @lotuspsychje https://bugs.launchpad.net/developer-portal/+bug/1537656
[12:16] <robin-hero> zzarr, ^
[12:16] <robin-hero> zzarr, There's a lot of work to do: https://plus.google.com/+PopescuSorin/posts/hjpu8q2oCMy
[12:16] <zzarr> thanks robin-hero, but I hope I will be able to install a alpha/beta sometime
[12:17] <robin-hero> zzarr, I hope that so, because my main phone is a Bq Aquaris E4.5, and that also doesn't support SlimPort...
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> delijati: not sure mate, idle here a bit until devs awake they might know
[12:18] <delijati> lotuspsychje: ack
[12:18] <zzarr> just flip the monitor 90 degree to the right ;)
[12:19] <zzarr> look what I found https://github.com/meizuosc/m75/tree/master/mediatek/kernel/drivers/mhl/driver/mhl_tx_drv
[13:01] <BlackJohnny> Hello! I could use a hint on what reference to check in order to learn what to do when my main ubuntu-touch process is placed in background
[13:03] <lotuspsychje> BlackJohnny: what do you mean process?
[13:04] <BlackJohnny> lotuspsychje, I am working with the camera from my app and eventually it freezes and does not release anymore the camera an you need a reboot of the phone in order to recover from this situation
[13:04] <BlackJohnny> eventually, if it is placed in the background with "alt-tab"
[13:05] <lotuspsychje> BlackJohnny: wich phone is this?
[13:05] <BlackJohnny> lotuspsychje, i got the behavior on both BQ and MX4
[13:06] <BlackJohnny> lotuspsychje, and it is only after a few switches
[13:06] <lotuspsychje> BlackJohnny: updated to ota8?
[13:06] <BlackJohnny> lotuspsychje, 8.5, and it is an app already on the store and some users are complaining about this behaviour
[13:07] <lotuspsychje> BlackJohnny: wich app?
[13:07] <BlackJohnny> lotuspsychje, and it is not happening so often but it is not ok
[13:07] <BlackJohnny> lotuspsychje, aieye
[13:07] <lotuspsychje> BlackJohnny: maybe file a new bug for aieye or find and existing one?
[13:08] <BlackJohnny> lotuspsychje, file a new bug to who? :)
[13:08] <lotuspsychje> BlackJohnny: check the bug link in our topic mate :p
[13:09] <BlackJohnny> lotuspsychje, I read that this is an architecture decision and somehow you need to take care of the state
[13:09] <BlackJohnny> lotuspsychje, but I dont know where is this documented
[13:09] <lotuspsychje> BlackJohnny: ah i see you are the writer of this app?
[13:10] <BlackJohnny> lotuspsychje, yes :)
[13:10] <lotuspsychje> cool :p
[13:10] <lotuspsychje> BlackJohnny: well filing a bug could be relevant for others to troubleshoot right
[13:11] <lotuspsychje> BlackJohnny: if an app freezes the system, we should at least know why...
[13:11] <BlackJohnny> lotuspsychje, not the entire system but it blocks the access to the camera even for the default camera app
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> BlackJohnny: you have the camera app enabled in system settings right?
[13:12] <BlackJohnny> lotuspsychje, I do
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> app permission camera
[13:12] <BlackJohnny> lotuspsychje, I will dig more into the documentation
[13:13] <lotuspsychje> BlackJohnny: i would file a new bug...
[13:13] <BlackJohnny> lotuspsychje, it is working ok most of the time :)
[13:13] <BlackJohnny> lotuspsychje, ok, thanks
[13:13] <lotuspsychje> BlackJohnny: have you tried also a reset to defaults and try aieye?
[13:13] <BlackJohnny> lotuspsychje, that I have not tried
[13:13] <lotuspsychje> BlackJohnny: as maintainer, i would advise that :p
[13:14] <lotuspsychje> BlackJohnny: to be sure its not solved
[13:15] <BlackJohnny> lotuspsychje, I will do that but I have the feeling I need to release the camera when my app is sent to background
[13:15] <BlackJohnny> lotuspsychje, thanks
[13:16] <lotuspsychje> BlackJohnny: maybe you should talk to app creators that use the camera app also? they might know
[14:44] <delijati> app store publish is down
[14:45] <beuno> delijati, how so?
[14:45] <beuno> looks fine
[14:46] <delijati> beuno: https://bugs.launchpad.net/developer-portal/+bug/1537656
[14:46] <beuno> delijati, did you try again?  :)
[14:47] <beuno> matiasb, ^
[14:47] <delijati> beuno: a minute ago
[14:49]  * matiasb looks
[14:53] <matiasb> delijati, hmm... just tried here, without issues, let me check your particular case
[14:53] <delijati> matiasb: i try it again maybe my screenshots are to big ?
[14:53] <delijati> too
[14:54] <matiasb> delijati, I think that shouldn't interfere, but maybe you can try uploading without the screenshots and adding them later
[14:54] <delijati> matiasb: ok i try it
[14:57] <delijati> matiasb: its still not working :/
[14:58] <delijati> matiasb: should i try a different browser im using firefox ?
[14:59] <matiasb> delijati, ok :-/ browser shouldn't make a difference, I'm checking if I can find anything related to your case
[14:59] <delijati> matiasb: ack
[15:04] <CheeryLee> Hey, guys! Where should I flash the Ubuntu Touch tarball? In which folder?
[15:08] <CheeryLee> Earlier I flashed it in /system library. It was 2013. But how now?
[15:09] <CheeryLee> Oops... I want to say folder, not library
[15:28] <CheeryLee> Is anybody here?
[15:30] <matiasb> delijati, afaict, it seems there is some conflict with your package version and previous uploads; I'd try to re-upload your package with an updated version number, and check if that works
[15:32] <CheeryLee> Can you help me with flashing the system image?
[15:37] <delijati> matiasb: hmm ok but there is not app listet under https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/ -> "You have no packages."
[15:57] <matiasb> delijati, right, you still need to upload it as a new package, but updating the version number in your package may fix the problem (from what I can check, your upload may be conflicting with a previous failed one), since upgrading the version number will process it as a completely new binary
[15:58] <delijati> matiasb: ahh ok thanks i give that a try
[16:02] <delijati> matiasb: btw. it there a more "cli" way of uploading a click app?
[16:03] <matiasb> delijati, yes, you can take a look at click-toolbelt, https://launchpad.net/click-toolbelt
[16:05] <delijati> matiasb: ahh perect exactly what i was searching for :)
[16:18] <n4fa> Is there any way to delete cookies from webbrowser-app?
[16:33] <matv1> I remember there was a telegram irc channel fr ubuntu cli. Is it still active? if yes whats the channelname?
[16:57] <lotuspsychje> !alis | matv1
[16:58] <lotuspsychje> matv1: seems like its ##telegram
[17:01] <matv1> lotuspsychje cheers :)
[17:03] <delijati> matiasb: i got error while using click_toolbelt i've added tickets for that .. now i try to upload it it again through the form
[17:04] <matv1> lotuspsychje but thats not it :(
[17:05] <lotuspsychje> matv1: alis doesnt give much more im affraid
[17:05] <lotuspsychje> matv1: ##irc-telegram and #telegram small chans
[17:06] <delijati> matiasb: through the form it worked now ... thanks
[17:07] <matv1> yeah i used my irc client to do a channel search. I supose it does the same as alis does. it gives me a bunch of results but its not there
[17:07] <matv1> i am sure it existed at some point
[17:08] <matiasb> delijati, ack, great! and thank you too
[17:21] <delijati> matiasb: just one more question; when can i expect my app to be published (reviewed)
[17:24] <mcphail> delijati: if your app passes automatic review, it is usually published in a few seconds
[17:25] <matiasb> delijati, right, it seems yours didn't pass the checks though
[17:25] <delijati> mcphail: ahh i see "Automated review found 1 errors and 0 warnings."
[17:26] <mcphail> delijati: that ill need to be fixed before it can be published
[17:26] <mcphail> *will
[17:26] <delijati> matiasb: can i see this error somewhere ?
[17:27] <matiasb> delijati, https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/4389/rev/1/
[17:29] <delijati> matiasb: should be that pyc file removed ?
[17:30] <delijati> matiasb: lint_control_architecture_valid_contents hmm
[17:42] <delijati> matiasb: ok i see i have to edit the "architectures" manifest.json
[17:53] <delijati> matiasb: done; thanks for your help
[17:58] <matiasb> delijati, there you go, I see you got it published, great :)
[17:59] <delijati> matiasb: first qml app :)
[18:55] <peto> hi, is someone working on ROM for N7000?
[19:14] <peto> nobody?
[19:19] <dobey> peto: at least probably nobody whom is currently on-line in this channel and has seen your question. check the xda-dev forums perhaps. we don't keep a general tally of who is working on what ports, in this channel at least.
[19:21] <peto> dobey: ok thanks, i have a look, but cant find nobody :)
[19:24] <dobey> peto: then i guess nobody is doing it. so go ahead and do it yourself. :)
[19:26] <peto> dobey: i dont know , whether i can to this :)
[19:28] <dobey> peto: the porting guide is linked in the topic
[19:36] <peto> dobey: must I have AOSP for the N7000? can you say me?
[19:45] <dobey> yes
[19:49] <peto> dobey: thanks
[22:38] <Niju> Has anyone set up Fruux for calendar/contacts on their UT?
[22:39] <Niju> Would I need to set up a crontab for auto syncing?
[22:49] <strixdio> anyone know if it is possible to chromecast netflix, youtube, and other media from ubuntu-touch?


[06:09] <dholbach> good morning
[06:12] <ajmitch_> morning dholbach
[06:12] <dholbach> hi ajmitch_
[06:28] <geser> good morning dholbach, good afternoon ajmitch_
[06:28] <dholbach> hi geser
[08:59] <jaalto> Whom can aswer about the property right of this icon? /usr/share/winetricks/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/winetricks.svg
[08:59] <jaalto> I'd like to include it in Debian package, but I need clear copyright and author information
[09:00] <jaalto> Related to http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=708198
[10:02] <geser> jaalto: I'd point you to YokoZar (Scott Ritchie) but you've already mailed him in the bug
[16:12] <jaalto> geser: I thought to ask him too. Thanks.
[17:34] <mfisch> a former colleague now at a haberdashery company suggested that MOTUs need this shirt: http://shirt.woot.com/offers/meowster-of-the-universe
[17:59] <Laney> :D
[18:00] <mfisch> can someoen show me the LP page where I can see a package I dput being built?
[18:00] <mfisch> I'm familiar with how it works for my team but not for something like saucy
[18:00] <mfisch> I have this page, is that right?  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text=
[18:02] <Laney> mfisch: There's http://launchpad.net/builders and http://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/yourpackage(/yourversion)
[18:02] <Laney> those are the main two pages i use
[18:02] <Laney> oh, and the Accepted email you get back has a link
[18:02] <jbicha> mfisch: from https://launchpad.net/~ click Related Packages and then click the version number you want
[18:03] <Laney> and there's,  yeah, ~/+uploaded-packages
[18:03] <Laney> SO MANY WAYS
[18:03] <ogra_> mfisch, click the link in the mail you got from the upload
[18:03] <mfisch> Laney: thansk
[18:03] <mfisch> Laney: its a bit different in my org in Canonical
[18:04] <Laney> I have a firefox quick bookmark thingy to ubuntu/+source
[18:04] <mfisch> looks like it built, so thats good
[18:04] <Laney> that's the one I use most often
[18:04] <ogra_> oh,, Laney said that above
[18:04] <Laney> e.g. lp gnome-terminal, click the link under latest upload
[18:04] <mfisch> yay my first motu dput
[18:04]  * ogra_ hugs mfisch
[18:04] <Laney> yay
[18:04] <ogra_> congrats !!
[18:05]  * Laney plays some Civ V in celebration
[18:05]  * ogra_ remebers his first upload still .... nicotine ... :)
[18:06] <Laney> haha
[18:06]  * Laney does not
[18:06] <mfisch> account-fitbit-plugin
[18:06] <mfisch> so glorious
[18:06]  * Laney went to the end of his LP mailbox and found a load of ia64 ftbfs mails
[18:06] <Laney> good days
[18:07] <ogra_> haha


[02:01] <spec4d> Is anyone else blocked from logging on to launchpad because it does not recognize your e-mail even though it's the e-mail tied to your account? Or is it just me?
[02:04] <dobey> just you
[02:08] <spec4d> ...and it's magicly fixed itself. NM
[02:08]  * spec4d slams his head on the desk
[15:46] <jelmer> wgrant: what is ~rhinos?
[15:47] <jelmer> looks like it's a hidden group that actually owns e.g. lp:convoy, making it impossible for me to view the page for that branch


[22:12] <Vivekananda> sorry the image did not come out right
[22:13] <nibbler_> ...resolved by resetting the theme...
[22:16] <Vivekananda> jrib: http://imagebin.org/244096
[22:16] <Vivekananda> this better I hope
[22:16] <jrib> Vivekananda: I still don't know why you are sending me this.  Didn't we discuss your options already?  Either use emacs-snapshot from the ppa you added or just upgrade to 12.04 since you'll need to upgrade soon anyway
[22:21] <Vivekananda> jrib: I was hoping to install emacs 24 with dependencies for the time being and work on upgrading later. I am not sure in what ways the upgrade might change my system and also new upgrade requires more processing power(read somewhere) and my comp an old celeron 1.6 ghz max :)
[22:22] <jrib> Vivekananda: you know the link you gave says you don't even need emacs24?
[22:22] <Vivekananda> I am also not sure of how much stable the upgrade is and how to choose the desktop manager during upgrade and even what to choose :(
[22:27] <SonikkuAmerica> Slow traffic....
[22:27] <jrib> Vivekananda: do you know what to do now?
[22:28] <adro_> hi, can someone help me mount my windows drive from a ubuntu live cd..?
[22:29] <jrib> adro_: you should be able to just open nautilus and click on it in the sidebar
[22:29] <SonikkuAmerica> jrib, adro_: If it's separate
[22:29] <adro_> i need to use tool to open file in system32...changing password
[22:30] <SonikkuAmerica> adro_: If it's a Wubi install, you'll find your Windows stuff under the /host/ folder
[22:30] <SonikkuAmerica> adro_: What do you mean?
[22:30] <jrib> SonikkuAmerica: he said he's on a live cd
[22:30]  * SonikkuAmerica facepalmss
[22:31] <SonikkuAmerica> Right, right. I forgot that little details.
[22:31] <SonikkuAmerica> *detail
[22:31] <adro_> its called NT sam password recovery, i need to use to reset my password on windows
[22:31] <adro_> have to use a command in terminal to access the sam file, which has the info
[22:32] <hilarious> anyone know how complicated it is to set up an SMTP server ?
[22:32] <__Hackuin__> adro_:  OPHCRACK live usb/cd is ideal for you job.
[22:32] <SonikkuAmerica> hilarous: To set up incoming mail or your own server?
[22:32] <__Hackuin__> *your
[22:32] <hilarious> SMTP
[22:32] <hilarious> outgoing mail server under linux
[22:32] <adro_> ok let me google
[22:33] <SonikkuAmerica> hilarious: Outgoing is what I meant
[22:33] <hilarious> yep
[22:33] <SonikkuAmerica> hilarious: Are you trying to connect TO a server or...?
[22:34] <hilarious> i am trying to set up my own SMTP server
[22:35] <SonikkuAmerica> Have you Googled it?
[22:36] <tjbiddle> Anyone know how to setup my ~/.ssh/config to use a domain user ( my_domain\\my_username )?
[22:39] <iceroot> tjbiddle: it should be configured in pam and not ssh
[22:40] <iceroot> tjbiddle: ssh will go against pam, and pam will use ldap/samba instead of passwd/shadow
[22:40] <iceroot> tjbiddle: imo
[22:40] <tjbiddle> iceroot: This is to put on my machine, not the remote machine that I'm sshing into?
[22:40] <iceroot> tjbiddle: you want the ssh-server to be able to auth against a domain?
[22:41] <tjbiddle> iceroot: No, that's already setup and working. I want to be able to ssh myserver and not ssh domain\\myuser@myserver
[22:41] <Cryovat> Hello, I want to run a command X when a file inside folder Y changes, is there any command line util for that?
[22:42] <vifanq> What can @: in a Makefile mean, when used as a command in a rule?
[22:42] <iceroot> Cryovat: inotify should do it
[22:42] <iceroot> tjbiddle: ah ok
[22:42] <majnoon> !samba
[22:42] <Cryovat> iceroot: I was looking for a shell util
[22:42] <iceroot> tjbiddle: then i guess ~/.ssh/config should be correct
[22:43] <iceroot> Cryovat: and what is wrong with inotify?
[22:43] <Cryovat> Google says it's a C function call
[22:43] <tjbiddle> iceroot: Any idea how to specify that? Popping what I would normally have as my user for user@server inside the User section of a host doesn't seem to work.
[22:43] <iceroot> Cryovat: its a program which will use kernel-watch-events
[22:43] <WeThePeople> in what dir. does the mysqld
[22:44] <WeThePeople> go into
[22:44] <iceroot> WeThePeople: dpkg -L mysql-server
[22:45] <JonEdney> Anyone know how I can alter the date format in Ubuntu 12.10?
[22:45] <JonEdney> Just don't like that dd-mm-yyyy format.
[22:45] <WeThePeople> iceroot, i have it on the desktop right now and forgot what dir it goes into for precise
[22:45] <Cryovat> Ok, I'll dig further into it, thanks :)
[22:46] <iceroot> WeThePeople: dpkg -L mysql-server
[22:46] <iceroot> WeThePeople: please use the mysql package from the repos
[22:46] <iceroot> Cryovat: have a look at incron
[22:46] <iceroot> Cryovat: its the inotify-cron daemon
[22:47] <iceroot> Cryovat: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-inotify-examples-to-replicate-directories/
[22:47] <BarkingFish> evening all. Does anyone happen to know how to get ubottu to show you what provides a particular command, please?
[22:47] <yeats> !factoids | ubottu
[22:47] <iceroot> BarkingFish: you mean you want to know from which package for example "ping" is coming" from?
[22:47] <tjbiddle> BarkingFish:  google?
[22:47] <MichaelP> What replaces Itunes in linux ? My IPod shuffle needs ITunes to put music on it
[22:47] <iceroot> !google | tjbiddle
[22:47] <tjbiddle> BarkingFish: You'll have to know what you're looking for
[22:48] <iceroot> !ipod | MichaelP
[22:48] <kkerwin> Hi. Using grep -P PATTERN, how can you echo only the matched substring? E.g.: anything captured using parentheses.
[22:48] <yeats> BarkingFish: sorry - misunderstood - thought you were wondering about ubottu commands
[22:48] <BarkingFish> iceroot, yep, that's what I want - and tjbiddle - i'm trying to find out what provides do-release-upgrade
[22:49] <yeats> !info apt-file
[22:49] <MichaelP> iceroot, thanks
[22:49] <BarkingFish> aha, thanks yeats :)
[22:49] <iceroot> BarkingFish: dpkg -S filename  for installed packages, or apt-file search for package from the repo
[22:49] <iceroot> BarkingFish: dpkg -S do-release-upgrade
[22:49] <iceroot> update-manager-core: /usr/bin/do-release-upgrade
[22:51] <kkerwin> Hi. Using grep -P PATTERN, how can you echo only the matched substring? E.g.: anything captured using parentheses.
[22:51] <jrib> kkerwin: -o?
[22:51] <iceroot> kkerwin: man grep
[22:51] <iceroot>  -o, --only-matching
[22:51] <iceroot>               Print only the matched (non-empty) parts of a matching line, with each such part on a separate output line.
[22:51] <kkerwin> jrib: Only wanting to capture a portion of the string.
[22:51] <kkerwin> iceroot: Tried that option. Not working.
[22:52] <BarkingFish> apparently, it's "ubuntu-release-upgrader-core" according to dpkg -S :)
[22:52] <jrib> kkerwin: ah, no, I misunderstood.  You probably can't directly :)  Try sed
[22:52] <kkerwin> iceroot: Only prints the entire line.
[22:52] <iceroot> kkerwin: ah ok you want something different, sorry didnt get it
[22:53] <iceroot> BarkingFish: on 12.04 its update-manager-core
[22:53] <BarkingFish> iceroot, I'm on 12.10
[22:53] <iceroot> BarkingFish: ok
[22:53] <BarkingFish> looking to upgrade so I can beta test 13.04
[22:53] <Cryovat> iceroot: iwatch did the trick, thank you for pointing me in the right direction :)
[22:53] <iceroot> BarkingFish: maybe the packagename changed for 12.10 :)
[22:53] <kkerwin> jrib: Hrm. I do not have sed-fu. May I borrow yours?
[22:53] <iceroot> Cryovat: you are welcome :)
[22:54] <jrib> kkerwin: something like: sed 's/pattern/\1/'
[22:54] <kkerwin> jrib: Normal perl regex pattern is OK?
[22:54] <iceroot> BarkingFish: i would not suggest to do early alpha-testing when you have to look what package is holding the update-script (imo)
[22:54] <jrib> kkerwin: you have to check man page, I don't remember
[22:55] <kkerwin> jrib: Ok. Thank you.
[22:57] <jrib> kkerwin: can I ask what you are actually doing?  There might be a better way
[22:57] <kkerwin> jrib: Selecting the time out of a line from ping output, and stipping everything else.
[22:57] <tubaguy50035> Anybody able to help me out: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2108458
[23:00] <kkerwin> jrib: In this case, the regex that I'm using is: "^.* time=(.*) ms$"
[23:00] <Papa-Smurf> hey
[23:00] <kkerwin> Papa-Smurf: Oh hai
[23:01] <Papa-Smurf> how can i set up my computer to be access from just one single IP?
[23:01] <john___> Can Loonix even do trackpads right? it's all wonky using it. i can't precisely point it at something, it's just awful. settings doesn't seem to help. any idea?
[23:01] <alcho> hi
[23:01] <john___> also joking about loonix
[23:02] <jrib> kkerwin: seems ok.  I don't know if there's a better way (you can check #bash if you want another opinion).  You could omit the initial "^.*" and it would still work though
[23:02] <kkerwin> jrib: yeah, the matching seems to work. But, I'm having problems with output. The \/1\ That you gave me just outputs "1".
[23:02] <john___> Whoops. Accidentally disconnected. Still asking about the trackpad, though.
[23:02] <Papa-Smurf> How to allow incoming connections from just one IP address? -
[23:03] <jrib> kkerwin: you switched the slashes
[23:03] <kkerwin> jrib: You're right in that example, but it seems that I typed it in right into bash.
[23:04] <jrib> kkerwin: make sure you surround s/x/y/ in quotes: 's/x/y/'
[23:04] <kkerwin> jrib: Ah. Ok.
[23:04] <john___> I think it's my acceleration that's too messed up, actually. I don't know the perfect settings for the trackpad though.
[23:04] <kkerwin> jrib: kris@frodo:~$ ping -c 1 www.achaea.com | sed -r "s/"^.* time=(.*) ms$"/\1/"
[23:04] <kkerwin> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[23:05] <kkerwin> Oh duh
[23:05] <kkerwin> jrib: Got it now. Thank you for your help!
[23:07] <imark> can anyone tell me how to get a daemon start automatically instead of me having to manually start it (minidnla daemon)
[23:08] <RicharX> hi .. someone do a connection to VPN Citrix RSA type ??? on Ubuntu ?
[23:15] <BillyZane2> Hi. My screen resolution is 640x480
[23:15] <BillyZane2> i can't get out of this
[23:17] <SonikkuAmerica> BillyZane2: Are you in System Settings?
[23:17] <BillyZane2> sonikkuamerica: yes
[23:17] <SonikkuAmerica> Go down to "Displays"
[23:17] <BillyZane2> yes, i am there. the max resolution i can select is 640x480
[23:17] <SonikkuAmerica> and check the "Resolution" combo box
[23:17] <BillyZane2> i do not have this problem in windows
[23:18] <BillyZane2> on sec
[23:18] <SonikkuAmerica> OK... what's your video card?
[23:18] <BillyZane2> GTX660
[23:18] <BillyZane2> there is no resolution combo box
[23:18] <BillyZane2> let me give some background information
[23:18] <SonikkuAmerica> OK
[23:19] <BillyZane2> i recently installed ubuntu. I had set it up. I got my resolution to look good. I was running from my PC's DVI out, to a DVI-VGA converter, to a VGA cable, to a VGA port on my monitor
[23:19] <BillyZane2> I recently tried switching to All DVI, that's when everything went bad
[23:20] <BillyZane2> I recently tested this monitor and the DVI cable on another computer, everything was fine
[23:20] <histo> BillyZane2: do YOu have an nvidia card?
[23:20] <BillyZane2> when I connected it to this one, i got a blue screen of death on windows
[23:20] <BillyZane2> yes
[23:20] <BillyZane2> an nvidia GTX660
[23:20] <histo> BillyZane2: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[23:20] <SonikkuAmerica> So VGA works but not DVI.
[23:20] <histo> BillyZane2: unless you've already installed nvidia drivers
[23:21] <histo> BillyZane2: holdup I thought the issue was resolution right?
[23:21] <BillyZane2> when I use DVI on windows, i can only get 1024x768 resolution, when I use VGA on windows, i can get full resolution. here's the weird thing, I can't get full resolution on ubuntu regardless of VGA or DVI
[23:21] <BillyZane2> histo: the nvidia drivers are installed
[23:22] <BillyZane2> and it all started because i decided to switch from VGA to DVI, a seemingly innocent thing
[23:22] <BillyZane2> but now, nothing works right
[23:22] <BillyZane2> xfce is starting to act funny too for some odd reason. I just installed it last night. Now, the terminal emulator doesn't work. thank god i decided to install xterm inc ase any problems happen with terminal
[23:23] <SonikkuAmerica> So this is Xubuntu?
[23:24] <BillyZane2> the process of installing my video card drivers was not as simple as simply doing install nvidia-current, that caused major problems. I had to use a very detailed install that I was guided through in this channel that got it to work, and i don't think it's worth messing with
[23:24] <BillyZane2> no, it's XFCE4
[23:24] <Foxhoundz> Ubuntu doesn't save backlight brightness settings.
[23:24] <Foxhoundz> what gives?
[23:25] <BillyZane2> I can do a couple of commands so who up some information for you guys
[23:25] <Foxhoundz> Adjusting the backlight using the OEM keys is abrupt instead of a smooth transition I've gotten used to on Windows.
[23:25] <Foxhoundz> Is there a fix for this?
[23:25] <SonikkuAmerica> BillyZane2, is your card an NVIDIA card.
[23:25] <Foxhoundz> or do I have to use an shell script to progrmatically set the backlight at logon
[23:25] <SonikkuAmerica> ?
[23:25] <Foxhoundz> it's becoming a pain.
[23:26] <SonikkuAmerica> Foxhoundz: Not that I know of.
[23:26] <SonikkuAmerica> Sorry.
[23:26] <Foxhoundz> sigh
[23:26] <BillyZane2> SonikkuAmerica, : YES, lol. it's an nVIdia GTX 660
[23:27] <SonikkuAmerica> Do you have NVIDIA X Server Settings installed?
[23:27] <BillyZane2> I recently got my video card fully installed with proper drivers on ubuntu
[23:27] <BillyZane2> yes i do
[23:27] <BillyZane2> SonikkuAmerica, : yes
[23:27] <BillyZane2> i tried using that as well
[23:27] <SonikkuAmerica> Did you run [ sudo nvidia-xconfig ] in a terminal after you connected using all DVI?
[23:28] <BillyZane2> SonikkuAmerica, : no i did not, i only did it when i had VGA
[23:28] <BillyZane2> i'll try it now
[23:28] <test12378> Ok i am back from class. I wish to continue troubleshooting this problem. The problem is that text appears very weird as seen at http://imagebin.org/244082
[23:28] <test12378> can anyone help me fix this please?
[23:29] <BillyZane2> SonikkuAmerica: i just typed in that command again
[23:29] <SonikkuAmerica> Now try rebooting and see what happens.
[23:29] <BillyZane2> ok
[23:29] <SonikkuAmerica> test12378: Weird.
[23:30] <SonikkuAmerica> test12378: Does this happen every time you reboot?
[23:30] <cambrianExplosio> hey, im having real trouble with ubuntu on a macbook, could anyone help me out?
[23:30] <test12378> it does not happen at startup, usually sometime after, though i have not been able to pinpoint exactly what causes it
[23:30] <test12378> usually a ctrl+alt+ backspace fixes it, but that loses everything so its annoying
[23:30] <PatrickC> ok, i am new to ubuntu server
[23:31] <PatrickC> i created a new user, but when i su username i only drop to $
[23:31] <PatrickC> i still have full terminal access, but its really odly set up
[23:31] <PatrickC> never seen it like this
[23:31] <test12378> i would say it happens from 15 minutes to an hour after startup
[23:32] <SonikkuAmerica> test12378, Ctrl+Alt+Backspace doesn't do squat. Did you mean Ctrl+Alt+Delete?
[23:32] <test12378> patrickC, ubuntu server has no gui, if that is what you are asking
[23:32] <test12378> if you enable the shortcut in system settings, ctrl+alt+backspace restarts X
[23:32] <schultza> how do i enable kernel switch permanetly when ubuntu updates kernels, it undos my changes?
[23:32] <SonikkuAmerica> test12378: Oh, right
[23:32] <SonikkuAmerica> PatrickC, you can install a GUI
[23:33] <PatrickC> SonikkuAmerica: this is a VPS
[23:33] <SonikkuAmerica> PatrickC, Ubuntu Server doesn't come with a GUI but you can install one
[23:33] <PatrickC> need to create a new user for setting up an IRC serve
[23:34] <PatrickC> i only have 10gb of space, so trying to keep things to a minimum
[23:34] <robehickman> I've lost my password for the ubuntu forum - username 'hessiess' and I don't know what email I used for the account. Funny the 'contact admin' link does not help as it just askes you to log in...
[23:34] <PatrickC> i'm normally find with terminal
[23:34] <SonikkuAmerica> schultza: What's that?
[23:34] <PatrickC> just this user setup is going odd
[23:34] <test12378> oh
[23:34] <cambrianExplosio> Ok, so my touchpad in OSX allows me to have 2 fingers on the touchpad , and still move the cursor (note not 2 finger scrolling), but ubuntu does not. :( any ideas?
[23:34] <test12378> i misunderstood you
[23:35] <histo> schultza: what do you mean kernel switch?
[23:35] <SonikkuAmerica> PatrickC, I see.
[23:35] <histo> schultza: edit the /etc/default/grub  file to add default cmdline options
[23:35] <PatrickC> i just need to get it so i can ust the user like a normal user
[23:35] <PatrickC> and not be dropped to a $ terminal
[23:37] <BillyZane2> I'm still at the same resolution
[23:37] <test12378> ok i am still not understanding you fully, i am not that advances in ubuntu myself, but i have set up a server before. what do you mean by "dropped to a $ terminal", what is the alternative you are looking for?
[23:37] <SonikkuAmerica> BillyZane2, Can you find nvidia-settings?
[23:37] <BillyZane2> SonikkuAmerica: let me check
[23:37] <BillyZane2> yes i can
[23:37] <SonikkuAmerica> BillyZane2, (run [ sudo nvidia-settings ] in a terminal if you can't find it in the menus)
[23:38] <BillyZane2> i did
[23:38] <SonikkuAmerica> Open it up
[23:38] <BillyZane2> it's up
[23:38] <BillyZane2> ok
[23:38] <SonikkuAmerica> You should be able to set the res from there.
[23:38] <BillyZane2> only gives me 640x480 as the max resolution
[23:39] <schultza> histo: i mean kernel switch kernel level cmdline switches for boot up options.. i set those in said file and when ubuntu installes a new kernel, my option is removed
[23:39] <BillyZane2> to clarify, these drivers and everything else worked perfectly fine just a few days ago. it was when i switched to a DVI cable that this happened
[23:40] <schultza> histo: and that's were i previously had it.. . but ubuntu removed that on me
[23:41] <test12378> so anyone have any ideas about that glitchy text?
[23:41] <SonikkuAmerica> Billy
[23:42] <SonikkuAmerica> BillyZane2, I'm not too sure about what we can do. I tried forever to get an HDMI cable to work with my friend's M11x running 12.04
[23:42] <BillyZane2> sup
[23:42] <BillyZane2> let me pastebin something
[23:42] <SonikkuAmerica> (That was me epic-failing trying to TAB-complete your nick)
[23:43] <BillyZane2> lol
[23:43] <SonikkuAmerica> test12378, check your graphics card maybe?
[23:44] <histo> SonikkuAmerica: I'm guessing he's no longer using the nvidia drivers
[23:44] <SonikkuAmerica> histo: Does Nouveau have glitchy text issues?
[23:45] <histo> SonikkuAmerica: not him BillyZane2
[23:45] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh.
[23:45] <BillyZane2> things are running unusually slow as well
[23:45] <histo> SonikkuAmerica: the font issue I haven't the slightest almost like memory corruption
[23:45] <BillyZane2> one sec...
[23:46] <SonikkuAmerica> histo: Maybe...
[23:47] <BillyZane2> i don' tknow if this might help
[23:47] <BillyZane2> http://pastebin.com/MdsC18uD
[23:48] <BillyZane2> riz@NightViper:~$ lspci | grep -i VGA  ........   01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation Device 11c0 (rev a1)
[23:48] <SonikkuAmerica> I'm not too sure... would using Nouveau change anything?
[23:49] <histo> BillyZane2: in the additional drivers dialog is the nvidia driver enabled?
[23:49] <BillyZane2> histo: how can i determine if it is?
[23:51] <alexddfvdfsdfdsf> hello
[23:51] <histo> BillyZane2: open the additional drivers and see which one is enabled
[23:51] <BillyZane2> how do i do that
[23:51] <histo> BillyZane2: gnome-control-center there is hardware drivers or additional drivers
[23:52] <SonikkuAmerica> Hi alexddfvdfsdfdsf
[23:52] <BillyZane2> i don't have gnome :(
[23:52] <test12378> Uhh, how do you propose i test it? Video is integrated, is their some kind of memtest for that?
[23:52] <BillyZane2> histo: i have xfce, kde and unity
[23:52] <BillyZane2> histo: is there a command i could use?
[23:52] <BillyZane2> histo: i suppose i could just install gnome
[23:52] <SonikkuAmerica> test12378, is memtest86+ in your Grub menu?
[23:53] <histo> BillyZane2: alt+f2 to open a run dialog and type in gnome-control-center
[23:53] <roasted> Question - I'm using this find command: find /media/storage/surveillance/* -mtime +3 -exec rm -r {} \;    Am I correct in understanding that the find command will NOT search recursively deeper than "surveillance"?
[23:53] <SonikkuAmerica> test12378: You can check by running [ sudo update-grub ] in a terminal
[23:54] <BillyZane2> histo: I just loaded it. the problem is, the panel is far bigger than my resolution. i can't shrink down this window
[23:54] <alexddfvdfsdfdsf> press alt to drag the window
[23:54] <alexddfvdfsdfdsf> alt-click
[23:55] <histo> BillyZane2: or actually run jockey-gtk
[23:55] <tdignan> Is there a way to create a custom launcher in unity?
[23:56] <BillyZane2> histo: I got in!
[23:56] <BillyZane2> i see 4 options under additional drivers
[23:56] <BillyZane2> there are "experimental nvidia drivers"
[23:57] <BillyZane2> err.. not driver, binary
[23:57] <BillyZane2> i'm currently using x.org x server
[23:57] <histo> BillyZane2: can you pastebin a screen shot
[23:58] <BillyZane2> dam it
[23:58] <BillyZane2> i don't know how to screen shot. i twon't let me copy paste
[23:58] <histo> BillyZane2: press the printscreen key
[23:58] <histo> BillyZane2: or alt+f2 to open a run dialog and use scrot
[23:58] <histo> BillyZane2: it will save a screenshot in your ~
[23:58] <BillyZane2> ok
[23:59] <BillyZane2> installing scrot


[03:19] <jose> daker: ping
[03:23] <jose> or mhall119
[04:58] <mhall119> jose: pong
[05:00] <jose> mhall119: hey, how can I rename a team on the LoCo Team Portal?
[05:00] <jose> like, change their URL
[05:01] <mhall119> jose: it's determined by their Launchpad team na,me
[05:01] <mhall119> name
[05:01] <jose> mhall119: and what happens when the team changes its name on Launchpad?
[05:02] <jose> will the info get merged?
[05:07] <mhall119> not automatically, there will be 2 teams once the renamed one is imported, then anybody who is an admin on both will have a "Merge" option
[05:08] <jose> and can a LoCo Council member do that part?
[05:08] <mhall119> I'm not sure, I'd have to look at the code
[05:09] <jose> if you have a sec it'd be great - we have a couple of those on queue
[05:09] <jose> like, I see the button but it's not allowing me to
[05:09] <mhall119> you see a merge button?
[05:10] <jose> I do
[05:10] <jose> (I'm LoCo Council btw)
[05:10] <mhall119> which team?
[05:10] <jose> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/thai-locoteam/
[05:10] <jose> as well as http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-michigan/
[05:11] <mhall119> and it gives you an error about not being allowed?
[05:11] <jose> exactly
[05:11] <jose> 'You are not allowed to merge this team with another one.'
[05:13] <mhall119> ok, so quickly checking the code, it's only available to team admins, it doesn't check for loco-council membership
[05:14] <mhall119> it wouldn't be terribly hard to add that check, but you'd need to file a bug and it'll require a release and deployment of loco-team-portal, so it wouldn't be a quick fix
[05:14] <mhall119> I'm also on my way to sleep
[05:15] <jose> no worries then
[05:15] <jose> I'll report it as it'll be quite helpful
[05:15] <jose> thanks! :)
[05:15] <mhall119> no problem


[10:46] <xchat-p3t3r> hi..
[10:46] <xchat-p3t3r> i'm involved in the Ubuntu Manual translating
[10:46] <xchat-p3t3r>  what have i to do to begin this activity?
[10:47] <xchat-p3t3r> bcause some time launchpad doesn't allows making changes..
[10:47] <lepr> What or where is the "Manual"?
[10:48] <xchat-p3t3r> ?
[10:52] <lepr> I found it
[10:52] <lepr> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-manual
[11:02] <xchat-p3t3r> ok...i've read
[11:02] <xchat-p3t3r> one question: i have to active a SSh key?
[11:06] <lepr> From the Manual: "We've got our own IRC channel - #ubuntu-manual on irc.freenode.net "
[11:15] <xchat-p3t3r> so?
[11:27] <lepr> so, you might want to check in that channel as well.  I checked what channels your user was in and that was not one of them.
[11:28] <lepr> i see now he is gone.
[11:33] <vish>  hi.. anyone know why the "topic" section in the Help& support switch from being on the left side on the main page to the right side in the rest of the contents?
[15:41] <vish> hmm...
[18:07] <doctormo> nixternal: I figured it might be better responding to your comment here, promote a discussion in context.
[18:07] <doctormo> Let me know when your online
[19:10]  * vish wonders if that blog was really essential ;)
[19:16] <doctormo> vish: Of course not essential, but most certainly useful.
[19:21] <vish> doctormo: dont get me wrong,  But IMO , seemed a bit like airing dirty linen... :)  this was just a small misunderstanding which would smoothen out
[19:22] <doctormo> vish: Isn't that what I said? No problems here. But since I did blog about the Manual team I felt that the issues should be reported.
[19:23] <vish> k.. :)
[19:24]  * doctormo has the good fortune to have not been involved.
[19:46] <nixternal> yo yo, doctormo getting ready to do a podcast interview with the Kubuntu and KDE peeps...
[19:46] <nixternal> just open up discussion, I can follow along and yell when I can :D
[19:50] <doctormo> nixternal: Forgot what I was going to say now... one second
[19:51] <nixternal> lol
[19:51] <doctormo> nixternal: Ah right, yes google is a problem, multitudes of data is a problem
[19:51] <nixternal> I hate when I do that...though you went almost 2 hours...I will ping someone and 15 minutes later forget :)
[19:52] <doctormo> nixternal: I don't think the manual is targeted at online availability per say, it's targeted at CD shippment or deb compilation AFAICS.
[19:52] <nixternal> problem is this though with shipping it, our CDs are packed as it is, and in order to get something else in there, sometimes the only way is to remove something else...though I think with the removal of gimp that helped
[19:52] <nixternal> but why have 2 forms of documentation locally installed?
[19:53] <nixternal> system documentation and yelp are meant to take care of that
[19:53] <doctormo> nixternal: The manual isn't documentation, it's more instructive and clear cut. Imagien the difference between microwave instruction manuals and microwave documentation books.
[19:53] <nixternal> I know in KDE, when in an application, we can go up to the menu and hit Help -> Foo's Manual and start reading about the application we are using...I am sure GNOME does it similarly
[19:54] <nixternal> doctormo: that is what "Topic Based Help" is supposed to be, instructive and clear cut
[19:54] <nixternal> minimal and to the point
[19:54] <doctormo> *shrug* obviously it isn't working, I don't know anyone that's commented on using it or that it's helped them achieve something.
[19:54] <nixternal> my vision for a manual would be online distribution
[19:54] <nixternal> doctormo: you can look at bug report, plenty of people are using it
[19:54] <doctormo> Indeed, not the same, but maybe the same content.
[19:55] <nixternal> you and I may not use it, but a lot of new users are using it
[19:55] <doctormo> nixternal: What I really want to say is: so long as the manual isn't a web page, let them get on with it and see what comes out.
[19:55] <nixternal> well, if the content in the manual should be in documentation, why not fix it in the official documentation?
[19:55]  * doctormo teaches ubuntu desktop to new people and knows of none of the users that do.
[19:55] <doctormo> nixternal: Because then it wouldn't be a manual would it.
[19:56] <nixternal> create a new project to fix what seems to me a bug report at best, isn't good justification
[19:56] <doctormo> nixternal: the manual isn't documentation... that's the social bug.
[19:56] <nixternal> if it is written and aimed to help someone, it is documentation
[19:57] <doctormo> Ah so now you'll want to be conflicting with the ubuntu learning team's content.
[19:57] <Pendulum> From what I can tell a manual is what you read before you start doing something, a help menu is meant for once you're having a problem and need to know how to do something?
[19:57] <nixternal> Pendulum: yes
[19:57] <doctormo> and I suppose spread-ubuntu is also running fowl since they do the same thing.
[19:57] <nixternal> I don't know what either project has, so I can't comment
[19:58] <doctormo> nixternal: I thought you were a LoCo person? (a subject for another time and channel)
[19:58] <nixternal> just to point out, you used the term "running fowl", I didn't...just because someone is doing something similar, I don't see it as running fowl at all...this is open source by the way, people are free to do whatever they want
[19:59] <nixternal> I am just curious as to why people would want to start a similar project instead of helping the current project that is a) official, b) installed by default
[19:59] <doctormo> Anyway, I thought it could have been handled better, instead of conflicting your team could have a) offered a position as sub-team, promoting the manual and helping their members pride and b) Invited their writers to use existing content from the docs team.
[19:59] <nixternal> doctormo: I am a LoCo person, and just because I am, doesn't mean I use the products there
[20:02] <nixternal> doctormo: we would have loved to do such a thing, but we were never a) even aware of this project until reading it from a website, b) not aware of such a project until after it had already been started
[20:02] <nixternal> It isn't like they came to use months ago with an idea and asked for help, so trying to put blame on the doc team is lame at best
[20:03] <doctormo> nixternal: No blame here, and those arguments are illogical. I'm stating what I felt you might have been able to do recently, even after a surpise discovery.
[20:03] <nixternal> huh?
[20:03] <nixternal> how are they illogical?
[20:03] <nixternal> you come at me saying "instead of conflicting your team"
[20:03] <doctormo> Because what they could have done months ago and what you could have known ages ago has no baring on what you might have been able to do recently.
[20:03] <nixternal> we didn't conflict anything, we gave constructive criticism
[20:04] <nixternal> that's horsecrap, you make it sound like it is the docs team fault for stuff...it isn't...we tried to provide constructive criticism and now we are being made to look like the bad people here
[20:05] <nixternal> you can look at myself, mdke, phil bull...we have been around here for 5+ years each, we have seen manuals come and go, pass and fail...if you remember at one time, Ubuntu Documentation was a manual
[20:05] <doctormo> That isn't what I'm saying, I have only explained what I feel, you don't have to agree but I'd note that I haven't blamed anyone or faulted. I just think your positive outcome could have been more positive.
[20:06] <nixternal> "instead of conflicting your team" <- that sounds like you are trying to put it on the doc team though
[20:06] <nixternal> if that isn't what you mean, then I apologize
[20:06] <doctormo> nixternal: You read my blog, you know I think conflict is positive.
[20:06] <doctormo> nixternal: Dialectic etc.
[20:07] <nixternal> oh, you forgot a comma...I can read, really I can :p
[20:08] <doctormo> ah, my fault, sorry.
[20:09] <nixternal> that's fine, I apologize for not at least catching it sooner
[20:09] <nixternal> now, as a sub-team, I have no problem with that
[20:10] <nixternal> seeing as our docs are freely licensed, don't think we really need to invite anyone to use the existing content, figured the license would have done so already
[20:10] <doctormo> nixternal: It's the look of the thing, social etc. brings people in.
[20:11] <nixternal> right
[20:11] <doctormo> Also positive bias, we see what we are told is there, we may not thing it exists otherwise :-)
[20:11] <nixternal> see, I mostly concentrate on the Kubuntu side of things, so in that case mdke would be the best person to do such a thing
[20:12] <nixternal> we had a guy writing a manual, I tried to get him to help us with docs, he was a bit confrontational and I haven't seen anything since from him
[20:12] <nixternal> though we definitely don't have any room for a manual on the Kubuntu CD
[20:13] <doctormo> The main guy Benjamin, he was looking for (and probably still is) guidence, official seating for the project.  I want to contribute"
[20:14] <nixternal> we ask for contributors and everyone is like, "writing docs suck!"
[20:14] <doctormo> So far, the deadlines for chapters in blueprints, the spread of work over multiple contributors and the narrow focus of the effort.
[20:14] <nixternal> the only prob with documenting, is it gets old fast, easy to burn out
[20:14] <nixternal> I had to literally take 2 years almost away from it, I grew so tired of it
[20:15] <doctormo> Plus, it's selling the dream, not the work. "We need people to write docs" vs "Ubuntu needs a manual that helps new users and you could be one of those that helps make it happen!"
[20:15] <doctormo> That's another thing I'm curious on watching, what happens for Lucid+1
[20:16] <nixternal> yeah, I should have done blueprints for Kubuntu docs, I am kind of jealous of that...I know for Lucid+1 we (Kubuntu too) will use blueprints over a stupid wiki page
[20:16] <Pendulum> nixternal: I suspect he somewhat got the fire because I think at least some of the people involved are new-ish
[20:17] <nixternal> and they are using LaTeX right?
[20:17] <Pendulum> I considered helping with it because I'd like to get into documentation, but am too shy to ask most of the time and not sure quite where/how to start
[20:17] <doctormo> I think the narrow focus really helps keep curious people in the project... they can see the finish line and they can see chunks of work.
[20:17] <Pendulum> nixternal: yes
[20:17] <nixternal> LaTeX seems more difficult that docbook, and everyone says docbook is a barrier into contributing
[20:17] <nixternal> that's what I really find interesting
[20:18] <doctormo> nixternal: The learning project is using Asciidoc and converting to Docbook.
[20:18] <nixternal> so the manual has shown me that those who say docbook is a barrier are wimps :p
[20:18]  * nixternal perfers rst over asciidoc
[20:18] <Pendulum> docbook is a technical barrier, not a social one. I do wonder if there are maybe more social barriers than technical when it comes to documentation
[20:18] <Pendulum> "social" in the broadest definition of the word
[20:18] <nixternal> I was using asciidoc for a job I did, and then went to PyCon where they taught me all about the wonderful ways of rst
[20:19] <doctormo> Oh there was a whole research session to pick Asciidoc over a number of alternatives.
[20:19] <nixternal> I wonder if people thing we expect perfect english in our docs or something? I know I am far from speaking perfect english let alone writing it...that's why we have people like mdke and phil who can spot bad grammar and typos a mile away
[20:19] <nixternal> :)
[20:20] <nixternal> yeah, asciidoc is brutally simple
[20:20] <doctormo> That's the ticket! we don't need complex stuff for classes, most of the document is template driven anyway.
[20:21] <doctormo> By the way, we still need to suck in the docs team's docbook code to start generating translations.
[20:21] <doctormo> I was jealous that the manual team already has them. heh.
[20:22] <nixternal> which is interesting, because I don't know if the xubuntu-docs even have translations
[20:24] <vish> ... anyone know why the "topic" section in the Help& support switch from being on the left side on the main page to the right side in the rest of the contents?
[20:25] <vish> !test
[20:25] <ubot4> yes, I'm alive.
[23:28] <gmendoza> good afternoon
[23:34] <gabless> gmendoza Yellow
[23:36] <gmendoza> :-)
[23:36] <gabless> What's goin' on?
[23:37] <gmendoza> just wrapping up work... gonna try to make some headway with some doc patches today.
[23:38] <gabless> doc has patches?
[23:39] <gmendoza> meant patches/diffs for server guide
[23:40] <gabless> Like revisions>?
[23:40] <gabless> Oops, *?
[23:51] <gmendoza> yup.
[23:53] <gabless> Huh, neat, haha


[00:44] <thefinn93> goddard, yeah, also lots of fat neckbeards
[01:11] <shantorn> good evening
[02:08] <goddard> never herad of a neck beard
[02:08] <goddard> right on!
[02:08] <goddard> hey my laptop has an antenna slot
[02:08] <goddard> Awesome
[02:08] <goddard> what antenna can i get for it now that is the question
[02:12] <shantorn> hello
[02:13] <goddard> hi there pal
[02:13] <shantorn> hows your evening
[02:14] <goddard> not bad although got a lot of work to do
[02:14] <shantorn> i have a lot of school work to do
[02:14] <shantorn> just had the os drive on my desktop fail so i am in a world of hurt
[02:15] <goddard> damn what brand and how old is it?
[02:15] <shantorn> its a seagate and its from 2004
[02:15] <shantorn> clickyt clack like atrain on a railroad track
[02:16] <goddard> did you take it apart and check and see if the disk is in tact?
[02:16] <shantorn> not yet
[02:16] <goddard> thats what i would do then just buy another and swap out the good junk
[02:17] <goddard> im not 100% sure that would work since ive never done it
[02:17] <goddard> but it makes sense
[02:20] <shantorn> i dont think it works that way, oyu would have to have the same drive for parts swap
[02:22] <shantorn> any conversations on the newest ubuntu coming down the pipe?
[02:49] <shantorn> is anyone about?
[03:15] <bkerensa> :) I hope everyone is coming to Ubuntu Global Jam in Portland in September.... You will get a free Ubuntu Global Jam shirt
[03:15] <bkerensa> :)
[03:39] <shantorn> whenprecisely is it or better yet do you have a link
[03:46] <shantorn> bkerensa, how do i redeem that free ebook, i registered at the website but didnt not see an area to choose a book or any offer
[03:48] <shantorn> also how do i become a team membver so that ubuntu see's it? i am not listed on our team website
[03:49] <shantorn> oh i think i have it figured
[14:39] <shantorn> good mprning
[14:39] <shantorn> morning*
[16:06] <bkerensa> shantorn: No idea I havent even used one of thouse ebook coupons yet :)
[16:59] <MarkDude> bkrensa- what sort of support are you doing?
[17:02] <bkerensa> Just general stuff
[17:02] <bkerensa> whatever I stuff I actually know about :)
[17:02] <MarkDude> like what does circle of friends mean?
[17:02] <bkerensa> or can readily google a solution
[17:02] <MarkDude> lol
[17:02] <bkerensa> LOL
[17:02] <bkerensa> no like audio config
[17:02] <bkerensa> server stuff
[17:02] <bkerensa> :)
[17:02] <MarkDude> How many islands doe Mark S own?
[17:03] <MarkDude> Oh, future reference
[17:03] <bkerensa> less then Redhat, Inc :)
[17:03]  * MarkDude is MARK
[17:03] <MarkDude> owner of Ubuntu is MArk S
[17:03] <MarkDude> Got it?
[17:03] <bkerensa> lol
[17:03] <MarkDude> Rumor has it he admires that I am an A-hole
[17:04] <MarkDude> Dont know if I beleive it ho :P
[18:15] <bkerensa> hi jhmextern
[18:15] <jhmextern> hello bkerensa
[18:16] <bkerensa> brb guys
[18:48] <goddard> did you just call him a ho MarkDude
[18:48] <goddard> :D
[18:49] <MarkDude> goddard, why yes I did
[18:50]  * MarkDude will pretend it was on purpose
[18:50] <goddard> MarkDude: haha
[18:50] <MarkDude> and hope he does not call me out on violation of CoC
[18:50] <MarkDude> :D
[18:50] <goddard> violation of cockadoodledo
[18:51] <goddard> MarkDude: have i bothered you about my problems yet?
[18:52] <goddard> thefinn93: upload your cd so i can download it!!
[18:56] <goddard> i went and bought OS X yesterday
[18:56] <goddard> $29
[18:57] <bkerensa> LOL
[18:57] <bkerensa> why
[18:59] <MarkDude> What are your issues? goddard
[19:03] <goddard> bkerensa: i was waiting for you to ask
[19:03] <goddard> HACKINTOSH!!!!
[19:03] <bkerensa> I see
[19:03] <goddard> bkerensa: i gotta make an app for the iphone
[19:03] <bkerensa> I considered doing it once but OSX ehh
[19:04] <bkerensa> :)
[19:04] <bkerensa> Just download the tools and make it on Ubuntu
[19:04] <bkerensa> :)
[19:04] <bkerensa> ?
[19:04] <goddard> they only allow you to build on mac
[19:04] <goddard> seriously nutz
[19:05] <goddard> they even say on their software cd "Design by Apple in California"
[19:05] <goddard> Designed :D
[19:05] <goddard> like that some how makes it cooler?
[19:05] <goddard> Californian's made their state broke now they are moving HERE!! Oh NOO!11!
[19:06] <goddard> MarkDude: i would tell you my issues but for some reason i can't click out of this window
[19:06] <MarkDude> And driving up housing costs no less
[19:06] <goddard> another bug
[19:07] <goddard> yep
[19:08] <goddard> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1817164          ----------            http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1817164
[19:08] <goddard> brb
[19:11] <goddard> ok back
[19:11] <goddard> MarkDude: so any ideas on how i can end my misery with these bugs?
[19:12] <bkerensa> MarkDude: You still need to make that acct so I can transfer your .com
[19:13] <MarkDude> Um, decide that you always want to fix stuff and go to Arch
[19:13] <MarkDude> lol
[19:13] <MarkDude> maybe gentoo
[19:13] <goddard> oh no
[19:13] <goddard> gentoo NOO!!!
[19:16]  * MarkDude was going to say more, but this channel is logged
[19:16] <MarkDude> \and poking bears is not good
[19:17] <MarkDude> Maybe use Puppy Linux also
[19:17] <goddard> haha i had a class where we used that
[19:46]  * bkerensa whips out his credit card to pay for something for ubuntu oregon
[20:04] <goddard> nice what you buyin?
[20:04] <goddard> pizza :D