[08:07] <brandonban6> hello, if I want to move all subdirectories into the directory of the parent folder this command should work right? mv -v /path/directories/ /path/directories   ?
[08:07] <Kr0ntab> no... most of those arent open tcp or udp ports. they're unix sockets
[08:07] <sluimers> Hello, I have trouble reaching my Apache derby's client database. I get access denied on one computer, but it works fine on another.
[08:07] <detrate> sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[08:08] <detrate> it will be in your system >> preferences menu
[08:08] <Richard15243> Kr0ntab: can I filter them ?
[08:08] <linux_trojan> derizzle:  I guess I will go with 9.04, some people said 8.10 was buggy so I should wait
[08:08] <strangeseraph> is that for me dentrate?
[08:08] <strangeseraph> is that for me detrate?
[08:08] <liquidmeson> i can't wait for 9.10
[08:08] <AK_Dave> 8.10 was buggy, 9.04 is smooth
[08:08] <jack_a_lope> vigo: how do I check integrity?
[08:08] <yow|x2> can someone help interpret this suggested intel video bug fix?
[08:08] <detrate> now that's for Wiseguy strangeseraph
[08:08] <linux_trojan> Great Dave
[08:08] <Kr0ntab> Richard15243: netstat -an | grep ^tcp
[08:08] <Kr0ntab> Richard15243: netstat -an | grep ^udp
[08:09] <thurston> Hi, I have fully downloaded Jaunty and have also cut a CD. Now how can I use the CD to upgrade from Intrepid?
[08:09] <Richard15243> Kr0ntab: cheers ;)
[08:09] <liquidmeson> pop in the cd
[08:09] <Wiseguy> hmmm, apparently i cant enable extra effects
[08:09] <liquidmeson> it should ask to open package manager
[08:09] <thephoenix> liquidmeson: so what do i do next? im kind of new to linux
[08:09] <Jordan_U> admin_masu3701, run "gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and add this line after           Identifier	"Configured Video Device"
[08:10] <detrate> Wiseguy: what kind of video card do you have?
[08:10] <liquidmeson> thephoenix, well from the looks of it its gonna be a bit of tweeking
[08:10] <vigo> jack_a_lope: Many CD/DVD 'burning' programs have a Check Disk or somesuch thing.
[08:10] <Richard15243> Kr0ntab: Does this look right? iptables -A INPUT -j DROP -p tcp --destination-port 80 -i eth0
[08:10] <lstarnes> usr13: iptables IS a firewall
[08:10] <Jordan_U> admin_masu3701, Option "AccelMethod" "UXA"
[08:10] <detrate> there is a GUI frontend for iptables
[08:10] <Wiseguy> Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller
[08:10] <AK_Dave> A good alternative to compiz, if you just want basic compositing: xcompmgr
[08:10] <thephoenix> liquidmeson: could you help me through it?
[08:10] <usr13> lstarnes: NO
[08:10] <usr13> lstarnes: iptables is not a firewall
[08:10] <lstarnes> usr13: it works fine on its own
[08:10] <liquidmeson> thephoenix, if your not up to all the typing and playin around your better of just getting a different card,.. i'll see what i can do
[08:10] <detrate> Wiseguy: ah yes, for the most part you cannot use integrated graphics with compiz
[08:11] <AK_Dave> usr13: Eh?
[08:11] <detrate> there are some exceptions
[08:11] <yow|x2> ok, i'll reboot into the new kernel, try  for help in here maybe later
[08:11] <liquidmeson> Wiseguy, i'm using intergraded on a laptop with compiz
[08:11] <thephoenix> liquidmeson: im willing to experiment : )
[08:11] <stratovarius> guys im trying to install openvpn but I deleted for error the config file in /etc/openvpn...how may I fix it?
[08:11] <alpha7> anyone having problem with 64 in firefox flash videos
[08:11] <usr13> iptables is a configuration tool for  packet filtering and Network Address Translation
[08:11] <alpha7> mines keep freezing
[08:11] <Kr0ntab> Richard15243: .... eh... that will drop all traffic to port 80 ... and does not distinguish connections made from yourself... or local workstations....
[08:11] <saulus> is there a way to reinstall all packages, that are installed?
[08:11] <strangeseraph> gonna try this with MTP instead of MSC. That seems to work.
[08:11] <usr13> firestarter is a firewall
[08:11] <Wiseguy> liquidmeson, what chipset?
[08:11] <Criten> Wiseguy: If you cen get the acceleration working on your card you should be able to get compiz working
[08:11] <knightwise> you can pull a list
[08:11] <liquidmeson> g45
[08:11] <Richard15243> hmm :/
[08:11] <AK_Dave> detrate: I'll agree that integrated graphics are not optimal hardware for compiz, but they will work. Barely.
[08:12] <detrate> firestarter is frontend for iptables I thought
[08:12] <Kr0ntab> Richard15243: see "man ufw" or better yet... check out "gufw"
[08:12] <liquidmeson> wiseguy intel thinkpad x200
[08:12] <jeeva11> how to edit images from a folder in ubuntu
[08:12] <AK_Dave> usr13: iptables IS a firewall, firestarter is a GUI.
[08:12] <liquidmeson> right click on the picture and open with gimp
[08:12] <quibbler> !iptables | usr13
[08:12] <vigo> gufw rocks
[08:12] <strangeseraph> okay, now it won't mount it because I need a program to mount it in. Hm. :/
[08:12] <Jordan_U> admin_masu3701, Log out and back in again once you have saved your xorg.conf, if X fails to start then reboot into recovery mode and choose the fix X option ( Or if you know how use ctrl+alt+F1 and do it from the terminal )
[08:12] <usr13> firestarter is a firewall application, or a software firewall.  Netgear and Linksys make hardware firewalls, and you can build your own firewall with from IPcop or Smoothwall ISOs
[08:12] <liquidmeson> use the command mount from the terminal
[08:13] <detrate> do eeepc's have integrated graphics? I've seen compiz running on them
[08:13] <knightwise> yep
[08:13] <knightwise> that works
[08:13] <Kr0ntab> vigo: yeah you can't get much simpler...
[08:13] <knightwise> had it running on an eee
[08:13] <Jordan_U> detrate, Yes
[08:13] <quibbler> !firestarter | usr13
[08:13] <detrate> yeah, worked really well on the eeepc too
[08:13] <detrate> relatively speaking :-P
[08:13] <AK_Dave> usr13: linux and bsd firewalls are build out of iptables. You can do this by hand or you can use a gui. You can do this on dedicated hardware or you can do this on your own workstation. Its still a firewall.
[08:13] <strangeseraph> my music device will not mount. hello!
[08:14] <ikonia> !awau > Roozbeh|Away
[08:14] <Criten> wiseguy: Try going to System->Administration->Hardware Drivers
[08:14] <ikonia> !away > Roozbeh|Away
[08:14] <detrate> strangeseraph: it's usually easier to google your problem with "ubuntu <version number>"
[08:14] <strangeseraph> found it
[08:14] <usr13> AK_Dave: No sorry, aas I said iptables is a  administration tool for IPv4 packet filtering and NAT administration tool for  administration tool for IPv4 packet filtering and NAT
[08:14] <liquidmeson> thephoenix, so first off i would enable don't zap... its kinda handy to be able to restart your window manager... with ctr+alt+backspace
[08:14] <silver_swords> monitor size question.  i have a 17" and cant change from 15" default.
[08:14] <lstarnes> AK_Dave: bsd uses something other than iptables depending on the variant of bsd
[08:14] <Jordan_U> admin_masu3701, Still here?
[08:14] <AK_Dave> lstarnes: True, it does depend on the bsd.
[08:14] <vigo> There are also Firewall Builder (BSD) and others, just don't go overkill on security, that is why it is called a Network or Internet, or whatever.
[08:14] <liquidmeson> thephoenix, sudo apt-get install dontzap
[08:15] <thephoenix> alright
[08:15]  * AK_Dave oversimplified
[08:15] <truse> Does anyone know if it is possible to use a HTC touch-pro mobile with Jaunty? Specially thinking of internet access.
[08:15] <AK_Dave> usr13: What is a firewall if not packet and port filtering>
[08:15] <jeeva11> how to edit images from a folder in ubuntu using terminal
[08:15] <usr13> AK_Dave: YOu can create or download and use a firewall script that will use iptables to firewall your system but iptables is not a firewall.
[08:16] <lstarnes> usr13: how is it not a firewall?
[08:16] <thephoenix> liquidmeson: it's done. now what do i do?
[08:16] <AK_Dave> usr13: Um, you just said you use iptables to firewall, but said its not a firewall. Make your mind up please.
[08:16] <liquidmeson> thephoenix, onces installed type sudo dontzap -e
[08:16] <Criten> Jeeva11: What do you mean, in terminal
[08:16] <usr13> lstarnes: I just told you.
[08:16] <Kr0ntab> ~sigh~...
[08:16] <liquidmeson> thephoenix then sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:16] <lstarnes> usr13: what you said is the very definition of a firewall
[08:16] <usr13> AK_Dave: I just did.  I'm sorry if you do not understand.
[08:16] <admin_masu3701> JOrdan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/156995/
[08:16] <AK_Dave> usr13: I believe you are splitting some infinitely small and irrelevantly pedantic hair.
[08:16] <admin_masu3701> Jordan_U: did i do i right?
[08:17] <liquidmeson> thephoenix, first actualy copy the file to the desktop or something as backup
[08:17] <usr13> AK_Dave: Well, it is inaccurate to say that iptables is a firewall.
[08:17] <AK_Dave> usr13: It is inaccurate to say that it is not.
[08:17] <darizzle> is it normal for ubuntu to make you horny?
[08:17] <jeeva11> Criten:i want to edit images of a folder i think vi won't work
[08:18] <Kr0ntab> can we get it together folks?  argue in a Private room please
[08:18] <silver_swords> is there a way to change monitor size from 15" to 17" ?
[08:18] <AK_Dave> silver_swords: Replace 15" hardware with 17" hardware.
[08:18] <Criten> jeeva11: do you mean change the icon?
[08:18] <Jordan_U> admin_masu3701, Yes ( a tab before Option would make it look prettier but doesn't change the configuration at all )
[08:18] <liquidmeson> darizzle, yes very common
[08:18] <vigo> IPtables and stuff> http://www.netfilter.org/, http://www.netfilter.org/projects/iptables/
[08:19] <strangeseraph> as a temporary solution I'm going to try removing libmtp8 since I don't have an mtp only device and prever to mount in hard disk mode because of rockbox. Okay, here goes.
[08:19] <thephoenix> liquidmeson: ok, got it
[08:19] <jeeva11> Criten:yes
[08:19] <usr13> AK_Dave: Firewalls may use iptables to do what they do, but iptables is not a firewall.
[08:19] <silver_swords> AK_Dave: how about some real help?  =)
[08:19] <gbear14275> so anyone tried updating to 9.04 via apt-p2p?  Know if it is working ok?
[08:19] <admin_masu3701> Jordan_U: ok..thats it?
[08:19] <Jordan_U> admin_masu3701, Yup
[08:19] <Criten> jeeva11: why do you want to do it in terminal? right click on the folder go to properties then click on the folder icon
[08:19] <strangeseraph> but it removes rhythmbox so people should use caution if they are trying to fix a mtp/msc problem this way
[08:19] <liquidmeson> thephoenix, so i'm assuming you trying this because you want 3d acceleration?
[08:19] <strangeseraph> msc/mcs?
[08:19] <AK_Dave> silver_swords: I don't understand the question. Yes, just unplug one monitor and plug in the other.
[08:19] <staar2> hi
[08:19] <liquidmeson> thephoenix, or is it to get some vga ports working?
[08:19] <BIGSEX> anyone know a good, free partition manager?
[08:20] <AK_Dave> usr13: You're useless. Explain yourself or accept that you're wrong.
[08:20] <thurston> exit
[08:20] <thephoenix> yeah. i just want my ATI radeon x1200 graphics card to work like it did on the previous version of ubuntu
[08:20] <Criten> BIGSEX: Gparted
[08:20] <speakman> After upgrading Jaunty, the monospace font renders ugly in Xterm than prior the upgrade. Any ideas why?
[08:20] <darizzle> bigsx
[08:20] <darizzle> gparted
[08:20] <jeeva11> Criten:actually i want to copy the images of a folder to one location and want to edit those
[08:20] <speakman> upgrading *to* Jaunty
[08:20] <darizzle> how do you get someones name before you address them
[08:20] <BIGSEX> something that i can run in windows
[08:20] <silver_swords> i have a 17". but the settings only show 15".
[08:20] <darizzle> kj
[08:20] <lstarnes> darizzle: just say it
[08:20] <AK_Dave> usr13: How, exactly, does using iptables not make a firewall?
[08:20] <darizzle> yea
[08:20] <Jordan_U> BIGSEX, Gparted comes on the Ubuntu LiveCD, System > Administration > Partition Editor
[08:20] <darizzle> how do you do that
[08:20] <darizzle> are you manually typing it?
[08:20] <lstarnes> darizzle: by actually typing the nick
[08:20] <liquidmeson> yes
[08:20] <usr13> AK_Dave: Again, I am sorry if you do not understand.
[08:20] <speakman> BIGSEX: you can write gparted on a bootable disc and run at boottime
[08:20] <lstarnes> darizzle: or try typing a couple letters of their nick then pressing tab
[08:21] <admin_masu3701> JOrdan_U: so i have to reboot now?
[08:21] <Criten> BIGSEX: Download the g-parted live CD and boot off it to edit any partition
[08:21] <darizzle> lstarnes: thanks for the tab hint
[08:21] <AK_Dave> usr13: You persist in splitting some irrelevant and infinitely small fine hair.
[08:21] <usr13> AK_Dave: YOu can use iptables in a firewall application  but iptables is not a firewall
[08:21] <BIGSEX> speak/jordan: i'm installing ubuntu along with a preexisting XP install, and i'd prefer to edit my parititon in windows
[08:21] <darizzle> anyone using pidgin as their irc client?
[08:21] <Jordan_U> admin_masu3701, Yes, or just log out
[08:21] <archutfpr> Why Ubuntu Jaunty doesnot have vim on repositories and sun-jdk ??
[08:21] <liquidmeson> BIGSEX, just use the ubuntu cd,,... you don't need to download g-parted
[08:21] <quibbler> AK_Dave, usr13 , please take this discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:21] <Criten> jeeva11: i dont really understand what your trying to do.
[08:21] <vigo> drazak: tab helps
[08:21] <admin_masu3701> ok
[08:22] <speakman> BIGSEX: It's absolutly preferable to edit partitions you're not already using.
[08:22] <AK_Dave> usr13: iptables is a firewall application. You do not neet firestarter to have a firewall. All firestarter does is configure iptables.
[08:22] <usr13> AK_Dave: Sorry, but you are just wrong.  I just dont want to see you giving out false information.
[08:22] <kholerabbi> I use pidgin
[08:22] <TheData> I too
[08:22] <AK_Dave> usr13: I'd like you to explain yourself.
[08:22] <staar2> i got serious problem with my laptop, laptop uses the centrino technology, when not using computer, processor should lower the Mhz and also lower fan rpms.
[08:22] <BIGSEX> speakman: come again?
[08:22] <admin_masu3701> Jordan_U: and what should i do if X dont work? i didnt see the previews message
[08:22] <jeeva11> Criten: i want to copy images of a folder to say suppose Desktop/somefolder and want to edit it..i am getting as permission denied
[08:22] <usr13> Firestarter creates a firewall script that uses iptables rules
[08:22] <archutfpr> What is the repository of Vim full ?? Ubuntu has a ugly vim
[08:22] <AK_Dave> usr13: Educate me.
[08:22] <lstarnes> AK_Dave, usr13: as quibbler said it would probably be best to move this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:22] <zimnyx> kholerabbi: me too, but I found psi more usable.
[08:22] <thephoenix> liquidmeson, what do i do next?
[08:22] <liquidmeson> usr13, ak_dave, i hate iptables!
[08:23] <usr13> A firewall script is a firewall
[08:23] <AK_Dave> lstarnes: iptables and firestarter are both ubuntu, no?
[08:23] <Criten> jeeva11: are you copying from a file that isnt in your home dirrectory?
[08:23] <jeeva11> Criten:yes
[08:23] <speakman> BIGSEX: editing paritions in windows only makes a todo-list for the actual partition manager which is run at boot time. Doing it with Gparted gives the same effect, but perhaps more controllable.
[08:23] <lstarnes> AK_Dave: yes, but this is ubutnu support, not ubuntu debates
[08:23] <Criten> jeeva11: Check the user of the folder
[08:23] <kholerabbi> zimnyx: I am using 8.10.. I find pidgin stable for irc
[08:23] <Jordan_U> admin_masu3701, You can either press ctrl+alt+F1 and remove the line you added from the terminal with "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" or you can just reboot into recovery mode and choose the fix X option
[08:23] <Rapachooie> is there a solution to the x3100 dproblem yet?
[08:23] <jeeva11> Criten: i want to copy a folder from /mnt to /Desktop
[08:23] <kholerabbi> I haven't tried psi though..
[08:23] <BIGSEX> does Gparted run on a GUI or is it command line?
[08:23] <usr13> Firestarter is a firewall  IPcop is a hardware firewall and so is smoothwall and others like them, they use various means to preform their tasks and one of those is iptables.
[08:24] <frybye> Hi - in Intrepid the nm-applet is not shown in the notification area but seems to be running in background - how to display?
[08:24] <Richard15243> Kr0ntab: so with that firewall, deny tcp 80 anywhere? does changes take effect on restart?
[08:24] <Jordan_U> BIGSEX, GUI
[08:24] <miss_mUte> hai............
[08:24] <Criten> jeeva11: oh.. so.. your trying to copy a mounted drive?
[08:24] <jeeva11> Criten: i used sudo cp w /Desktop but i am unable to copy it
[08:24] <usr13> A NAT firewall uses iptables to do most all of it's tasks.
[08:24] <BIGSEX> jordan: and if i partition my hard drive, it won't erase any data?
[08:24] <speakman> BIGSEX: it's fully GUI
[08:24] <AK_Dave> usr13: So if I have a script, and the script is my firewall, then it doesn't matter to me if the script was generated by firestarter or by hand using iptables. Both produce same firewall.
[08:24] <lstarnes> archutfpr: vim-full should be in universe
[08:24] <Kr0ntab> once you apply the setting it's there.  to check the status, do "sudo ufw status"
[08:24] <speakman> BIGSEX: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/screenshots.php
[08:24] <admin_masu3701> Jordan_U: ok
[08:24] <usr13> AK_Dave: Yes, the script is the firewall.
[08:24] <admin_masu3701> JOrdan_U: let me try
[08:25] <BIGSEX> speakman: mind if i PM you briefly?
[08:25] <AK_Dave> usr13: Fine. Then firestarter is equally not a firewall. Its the script that is the firewall.
[08:25] <strangeseraph> anybody try songbird yet?
[08:25] <Rapachooie> so no direction to a fix for the video issues?
[08:25] <usr13> AK_Dave: Firestarter is a firewall application
[08:25] <liquidmeson> thephoenix, okay so once you got xorg.conf oppen try subsituting in what it says in the screen section
[08:25] <speakman> BIGSEX: actually I do. I don't like being personal support, and I also have to leave right now.
[08:25] <archutfpr> lstarnes, Ive installed now ubuntu 9.04 and typed apt-get install vim-full, but doesnot exists this package on ubuntu 9.04
[08:25] <AK_Dave> usr13: firestarter is a front end to generate the script.
[08:25] <liquidmeson> thephoenix, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[08:25] <Rapachooie> someone linked me to a page that showed the x3100 as compiz blacklisted (I assume because of the intel drivers), but it was back from 2007 and I am sure alot has changed since then
[08:26] <Richard15243> Kr0ntab: isn't that the same thing as what I had on iptables? 80/tcp, actioN: deny, from: anywhere ?
[08:26] <BIGSEX> fair enough
[08:26] <lstarnes> archutfpr: it does exist but you need to make sure that your universe repository is enabled
[08:26] <robf> who thought "hey when you install things,  we'll keep the "to be installed" section unexpanded,  more clicks equal more wins...  ubuntu devs,  come on.  its a nuisance...and that's that
[08:26] <robf> minor yes,  but not hard to fix,  stop being morons =D
[08:26] <liquidmeson> thephoenix, but with your monitors highest resolution, and like 800x600 or something low
[08:26] <usr13> AK_Dave: For all practicle purposes firestarter is the firewall, but the script really is.
[08:26] <frybye> Hi - in Intrepid the nm-applet is not shown in the notification area but seems to be running in background - how to display?
[08:27] <AK_Dave> usr13: For all practical purposes, iptables is a firewall. But the script really is. Please!
[08:27] <usr13> AK_Dave: The script that is generated by the firewall application is the actuall firewall.
[08:27] <archutfpr> lstarnes, thanks
[08:27] <Kr0ntab> yes... but ufw adds much more than just that rule.  it alters your default policy to block.  So you should actually set ufw to permit port 80 to your local subnet... external subnets would be blocked by the default policy.
[08:27] <jeeva11> Criten:http://paste.ubuntu.com/157010/
[08:27] <admin_masu3701> Jordan_U: so i just look out and back in
[08:27] <Richard15243> i c
[08:28] <InsertHome> is jaunty on kernel newer than 2.6.27-11 ?
[08:28] <Jordan_U> admin_masu3701, Yup
[08:28] <Jordan_U> InsertHome, Yes
[08:28] <AK_Dave> InsertHome: yes
[08:28] <darizzle> InsertHome: check ubuntu.com
[08:28] <theclaw> hi
[08:28] <darizzle> easy to answer for yourself
[08:28] <silver_swords> no one knows how to change monitor size from 15" to 17" ? (and no, not the hardware, dave.)
[08:28] <InsertHome> k, having a really hard time upgrading them
[08:28] <lstarnes> InsertHome: <IP_ADDRESS>.15
[08:28] <gbear14275> does this room help with setting up apt-p2p?
[08:28] <theclaw> my fixed width fonts are missing since the update to ubuntu 9.04
[08:28] <thephoenix> im confused
[08:28] <theclaw> sorry, I meant my bitmap fonts are missing
[08:28] <theclaw> i.e. helvetica, fixed
[08:29] <steveccc> hi all - is there a correct way of updating the fstab on ubuntu - i have used fedora previously and just used vi to manually edit the file
[08:29] <theclaw> what's the reason for this?
[08:29] <admin_masu3701> Jordan_U: so now the effects should work?
[08:29] <theclaw> I already enabled them with dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config
[08:29] <andy_> hi i just upgraded to jaunty and my computer is running really slow. system monitor says that pdftotext is using all my cpu - help please!
[08:29] <AK_Dave> silver_swords: Did you go to Preferences|Display ?
[08:29] <rainium_isotope> hey does xchat allow use of webcams?
[08:29] <Jordan_U> admin_masu3701, No, now there is a chance they will work, without knowing why DRI failed in the first place it's hard to know if DRI2 will work or not
[08:29] <Criten> jeeva11: you are not giving it the full path. you need to do /home/-UserNameHere-/Desktop/hpbased
[08:30] <usr13> steveccc: What do you need to do?
[08:30] <Richard15243> Kr0ntab: I found a better way! Make Apache listen on localhost:80 ?
[08:30] <Ola_> kkk
[08:30] <silver_swords> Dave: yes.
[08:30] <lstarnes> rainium_isotope: irc is text-only except for its dcc extension, which can send files
[08:30] <BIGSEX> jordan: will resizing my main parition in gparted result in any data loss?
[08:30] <Ola_> hello
[08:30] <admin_masu3701> Jordan_U: i just try to visual effects but it wont work
[08:30] <steveccc> usr13: i have put in a new disk which i want to setup as a new larger home drive.  The data is migrated and hence I just need to add it now to the fstab
[08:30] <rainium_isotope> lstarnes, thanks.. just got my webcam to work running the new version of ubuntu. :)
[08:30] <Jordan_U> BIGSEX, Not unless something goes wrong
[08:30] <Ola_> mówi ktoś po polsku??
[08:30] <rainium_isotope> just curious
[08:30] <andy_> hi i just upgraded to jaunty and my computer is running really slow. system monitor says that pdftotext is using all my cpu - help please!
[08:31] <Kr0ntab> Richard15243: hehe yes.... thats works too.  don't you love options?
[08:31] <admin_masu3701> Jordan_U: it says Desktop effects could not be enabled
[08:31] <usr13> BIGSEX: It will but only if you take in space that is occupied by existing data for another partition.
[08:31] <Richard15243> Kr0ntab: thats why im moved to linux :P
[08:31] <Kr0ntab> same affects as the tcpwrappers method.  Both will respond with a RST port closed message.
[08:31] <Criten> andy_: kill the process
[08:31] <Richard15243> now i just need to find httpd.conf :/
[08:31] <Richard15243> forgot where it was
[08:31] <Richard15243> haha
[08:31] <usr13> BIGSEX: But gparted is a non-destructive partitioning tool.
[08:31] <vigo> !backup
[08:32] <AK_Dave> silver_swords: Preferences|Display should give you the chance to detect your monitor. It says 15" but should say 17"? That means the monitor is not reporting properly. Bad hardware spec.
[08:32] <Jordan_U> admin_masu3701, I don't know then, you should probably remove that line from your xorg.conf again and maybe file a bug report
[08:32] <andy_> just tried that criten but it restarted?
[08:32] <Maximo> !problem
[08:32] <usr13> steveccc: Yes, you just need to edit the file
[08:32] <admin_masu3701> rainium_isotop: how did you make  you webcam work? i dont even know how to use it
[08:32] <Criten> andy_: Do you know what is running the command?
[08:32] <usr13> steveccc: Have you created a mount point for it?
[08:32] <Kr0ntab> Richard15243: /etc/apache2
[08:32] <andy_> Criten:how do i find that out?
[08:32] <admin_masu3701> Jordan_U: ok
[08:32] <silver_swords> Dave: ok and thnx for help. =)
[08:33] <usr13> Oh... you want to move your /home/ partition to it?
[08:33] <jeeva11> Criten:yes now its coming thank you
[08:33] <kulight> !ati drivers
[08:33] <kulight> !drivers
[08:33] <steveccc> usr13: well i did an initial setup and hence /home is currently under the main root partition.  Thus I want to move the files over to the new disk and then mount the new disk over /home
[08:33] <AK_Dave> silver_swords: Whats more important is what // never mind, I could fix it.
[08:33] <Kr0ntab> Richard15243: "sudo updatedb" then "locate httpd.conf"
[08:33] <usr13> steveccc: Let me find you a tutorial for that, It would take a while to tell you here...
[08:33] <Criten> andy_: Did it start doing it right when you logged in?
[08:33] <yofel_> !ati
[08:33] <Richard15243> Kr0ntab: yeah, thats where i thought it was. Forgot Debian changed the way it works (was like why is it empty?)
[08:34] <Kr0ntab> Richard15243: yeah you dont need to configure httpd.conf
[08:34] <usr13> steveccc: pastebin the output of   sudo fdisk -l
[08:34] <Criten> jeeva11: anytime
[08:34] <vigo> And it says all over the Install, back up any data that is on or exists because the next click will destroy all the existing data on the selected partition, then are you sure? and stuff, so just make a backup of anything that you wish to save, on a daily basis.
[08:34] <Kr0ntab> Richard15243: it's pretty well organized in a modular fashion...
[08:34] <steveccc> usr13: i am not near the machine currently - just doing research at work
[08:34] <Adil> Hi..
[08:34] <andy_> Criten:I noticed it was slow when i started, i just upgraded to jaunty, also i used ghost script the other day to concatenate pdf's (but it dint slow the computer)
[08:34] <Adil> is anyone free to help with a problem please?
[08:34] <yofel_> !ask | Adil
[08:34] <Richard15243> Kr0ntab: do you by any chance know where you set the bind address in this new modularised system?
[08:35] <Criten> andy_: have you tryed restarting?
[08:35] <darizzle> test
[08:35] <gbear14275> I have a question about my sources.list file:  I am trying to setup apt-p2p and am not sure how to change my sources.list.  My versions doesn't even seem to match up with the instructions.  I have copied details here:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/157015/   Any help would be much appreciated
[08:35] <sidewalk> the sound card on my machine has stopped working after the reinstallation
[08:35] <usr13> steveccc: This looks pretty good:  http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/
[08:35] <sidewalk> the sound card on my machine has stopped working after the dist upgrade to 9.04, any tips?
[08:35] <andy_> Criten:Yep, i thought it was slow because of temp files (or something after the upgrade, so i restarted)
[08:35] <Adil> Just upgraded from 8.10 to 9.04. Graphics card 780G integrated. Problem with boot up. Ubuntu logo comes up fine, but then I get a scrambled screen, with three attempts at refreshes
[08:36] <Kr0ntab> Richard15243: /etc/apache/ports.conf
[08:36] <TheFunkbomb> alright.  who can I help?  I'm batting 2 for 2 tonight.  Let's go for the hat trick
[08:36] <staar2> i got serious problem with my laptop, laptop uses the centrino technology, when not using computer, processor should lower the Mhz and also lower fan rpms.
[08:36] <Adil> i am quite new to linux by the way
[08:36] <Criten> TheFunkbomb: you can try andy_
[08:36] <Kr0ntab> Richard15243: or in the /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/<site-file>
[08:36] <Criten> :P
[08:36] <AK_Dave> TheFunkbomb: Try gbear14275
[08:37] <andy_> TheFunkbomb: hi i just upgraded to jaunty and my computer is running really slow. system monitor says that pdftotext is using all my cpu - help please!
[08:37] <ogre> hey I managed to make ubuntu forums text really small somehow heres a screenshot. http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/781/screenshotxkw.png what the heck did i do?
[08:37] <Criten> gbear14275: just add it to the end of the list
[08:37] <Kr0ntab> ogre: try ctrl+0
[08:37] <AK_Dave> andy_: Did you try 'killall pdftotext'
[08:37] <Adil> any takers?
[08:37] <TheFunkbomb> andy_, what happens when you kill pdftotext?
[08:38] <steveccc> usr13: thanks for the link - its pretty much as I expected except when i did it before it was like the tutorial where you put /dev/hdx in the fstab but I presume you use the disk id now instead?
[08:38] <irmandos> jeeva11: any news
[08:38] <Criten> TheFunkbomb: it restarts.
[08:38] <andy_> AK_DAVE: jst tried it but pdfto text restarted
[08:38] <TheFunkbomb> Criten, the program or the computer?
[08:38] <jeeva11> irmandos:thank you so much now java programs are running
[08:38] <steveccc> usr13: or should i say partitionid
[08:38] <AK_Dave> andy_: So something is making it restart. You have a job, a script, a piece of malware javascript running loose, doing this.
[08:39] <leejongwook> hi
[08:39] <Criten> TheFunkbomb: nvm
[08:39] <usr13> steveccc: THe info is there, you just need to change things around to suit your needs.
[08:39] <TheFunkbomb> I see
[08:39] <irmandos> jeeva11: how do you find netbeans?
[08:39] <yofel_> Adil: what graphics card is that? Intel/Nvidia/Ati/...
[08:39] <andy_> reccommend reinstalling it?
[08:39] <leejongwook> Q : suggest me a console based bittorrent client please
[08:39] <Adil> its an Ati
[08:39] <usr13> steveccc: It's overly brief I think, but will do
[08:39] <TheFunkbomb> andy_, and it's hogging up your CPU, not your RAM?
[08:39] <AK_Dave> andy_: recommend find, track, and kill the errant process.
[08:40] <jeeva11> irmandos:setting up completed in terminal ,i don't know how to open netbeans but i think it loaded
[08:40] <andy_> ram is at 20%
[08:40] <Adil> equivalent to a radeon 3200 i believe
[08:40] <Kr0ntab> Adil: I had a similar issue with my upgrade with an ATI card.  I actually removed xorg... and reinstalled it.  What I found is that the xorg.conf file is now blank... as the settings are dynamically discovered via some other mechanism.
[08:40] <AK_Dave> andy_ 20% of 1gb is a lean system. 20% of 8gb is a bloated fat hog
[08:40] <Cheery> hi
[08:40] <GodfatherofEire> Hmm, how would I go about enabling the universe & multiverse repos in jaunty?
[08:40] <steveccc> usr13: no think i will be fine - thanks.  My only question is that in the current /home I have no personal files just the default setup.  Hence should i just mount my new disk as /home and then login and let the files be crated once again or should i copy over the files from the /home that was created at install time
[08:40] <Guest16064> i would like to monitor fork execution....is it possible with gdb watchpoint?
[08:40] <andy_> I'll try reinstalling it - thanks for your time guys
[08:40] <Cheery> the last update bricked my firefox
[08:40] <jeeva11> irmandos:how can i paste screenshot.png to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[08:41] <Kr0ntab> Adil: you may want to try blanking it out... to see what happens...
[08:41] <AK_Dave> andy_:  I do not think that is necessary.
[08:41] <Adil> Krontab.. how do i get into terminal?
[08:41] <AK_Dave> andy_: Kill fly with tacnuke, you will.
[08:41] <ogre> hey I managed to make ubuntu forums text really small somehow heres a screenshot. http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/781/screenshotxkw.png what the heck did i do? the last advice didnt work
[08:41] <Kr0ntab> ctrl+alt+F1 is one way
[08:41] <TheFunkbomb> andy_, are you on ext3 or ext4?
[08:41] <andy_> whats tacnuke?
[08:41] <Kr0ntab> if that gives you trouble.. try ctrl+alt+F2 and so on...
[08:42] <Criten> andy_: one sec. there are posts on the forums about this
[08:42] <andy_> thefunkbomb it would just be the default (i dont have a clue)
[08:42] <AK_Dave> andy_:  tactical nuclear bomb
[08:42] <irmandos> jeeva11: not sure
[08:42] <Adil> kr0ntab the screen is still frozen, can I get into terminal upon reboot somehow?
[08:42] <andy_> lol
[08:42] <TheFunkbomb> ogra, hold control and scroll wheel
[08:42] <TheFunkbomb> err
[08:42] <Kr0ntab> Adil: and if that gets you nowhere then you can boot into recovery mode and do it form there so X doesnt try to start up while you do your work.
[08:42] <TheFunkbomb> ogre, hold control and scroll wheel
[08:42] <irmandos> jeeva11: what irc client are you using?
[08:42] <Adil> ok
[08:43] <jeeva11> irmandos:when i am trying to open t.txt ..error :gedit was not displaying the content of t.txt
[08:43] <Criten> andy_: do you have Beagle installed?
[08:43] <jeeva11> irmandos:FreeNode
[08:43] <Adil> so I need to remove xorg.. could you kindly tell me the command for that?
[08:43] <Adil> or do I just blank out the .conf file?
[08:43] <Adil> as you can see.. im new to linux
[08:43] <AK_Dave> andy_: Sounds like Criten may have a line on some forum info.
[08:43] <usr13> Adil: rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:43] <Kr0ntab> Adil: I have an xorg.conf but it's now blank.
[08:43] <andy_> i dont think so (i dont know what it is and it isnt in the system monitor processes)
[08:43] <gbear14275> Criten: I think I ran into some issues: http://paste.ubuntu.com/157018/
[08:43] <Adil> ok thanks!
[08:44] <Adil> ill try this right now
[08:44] <irmandos> jeeva11: irc client meaning "weechat, pidgin, opera browser . . . . .. "
[08:44] <TheFunkbomb> ogre, did that work?
[08:44] <Criten> gbear14275: go to the System->Administration->software sources
[08:44] <Kr0ntab> Adil: sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf && sudo touch /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:45] <ogre> TheFunkbomb,  yeah i got it zoomed back but not to fit like it did text still looks off
[08:45] <JockyWilson> Cloning partitons ext3 or ext4 with 256inode.. anyone succesfully done this with Clonezilla  (NortonGhost pukes at 256inode size)
[08:45] <Criten> andy_: try disabling indexing
[08:45] <jeeva11> irmandos:XChat
[08:45] <Adil> thanks kr0ntab!
[08:45] <usr13> gbear14275: You should pastebin your sources.list
[08:45] <AK_Dave> Kr0ntab: Is that any different than dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[08:45] <TheFunkbomb> hmm
[08:45] <andy_> how do you do that?
[08:45] <Criten> andy_: one sec.. let me find it
[08:45] <TheFunkbomb> ogre, what were you doing when the text got all small?
[08:45] <vigo> !pastebin
[08:45] <irmandos> jeeva11: can jyou send files using xchat?
[08:46] <ogre> TheFunkbomb,  moving my laptop
[08:46] <Kr0ntab> Kr0ntab: dpkg-reocnifgure -phigh xserver-xorg actually recreates the config... which made my card fail with "no screens found".  Thats because it puts some basic structure in the file.  It needs to be blank now.
[08:46] <Kr0ntab> oops
[08:46] <liquidmeson> JockyWilson, i've cloned drives with rsync
[08:46] <Kr0ntab> meant Adil
[08:46] <jeeva11> irmandos:here in main forum how can i send the file?
[08:46] <usr13> Kr0ntab: rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:46] <AK_Dave> Kr0ntab: Ahh! I see. Yes, the reconfigure would give you a default xorg.conf not an empty one.
[08:47] <TheFunkbomb> ogre, what do you mean it doesn't fit like it used to?  take another screen grab
[08:47] <ajah> how to upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04
[08:47] <ogre> i think it was a while ago i have just been using cut and paste with gedit
[08:47] <Adil> cool
[08:47] <liquidmeson> ajah, sytem, administration, update
[08:47] <JDahl> version 8.10 and 9.04beta had problems with intel Wifi 5100 chipset, often causing kernel panics during bootup - unfortunately this bug still seems present on a fresh 9.04 install; can others here verify that?
[08:48] <liquidmeson> ajah, from the menus
[08:48] <Kr0ntab> usr13: I already told him that....  sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf && sudo touch /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:48] <Kr0ntab> that removes the file and creates an empty one
[08:48] <DansTheMan1> I am wondering how to resize a partition using GParted
[08:48] <ogre> TheFunkbomb,  ahh its cool i got it thanks
[08:49] <DansTheMan1> As it isn't really letting me =(
[08:49] <liquidmeson> DansTheMan1, boot from the live cd
[08:49] <AK_Dave> TheFunkbomb: Hat trick?
[08:49] <DansTheMan1> liquidmeson: I am :)
[08:49] <TheFunkbomb> HAT TRICK BABY
[08:49] <TheFunkbomb> w00t
[08:49] <Adil> Kr0ntab : just tried it
[08:49]  * AK_Dave says ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED
[08:49] <Adil> didnt work.. three refreshes with scrambled screen
[08:49] <ajah> liquidmeson is this going to install new kernel ?
[08:49] <TheFunkbomb> actually, I didn't help andy_ so I'm really 3 for 4
[08:49] <usr13> Kr0ntab: Tell him: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[08:49] <liquidmeson> DansTheMan1, once your in live cd just open it up... system, administration, partition
[08:49] <usr13> ?
[08:49] <liquidmeson> ajah, it should update it yes
[08:50] <TheFunkbomb> still a hat trick.  Just not as impressive
[08:50] <DansTheMan1> However, it says on the partition i want to resize: Minimum Size: 52107; Maximum Size: 52107
[08:50] <gbear14275> usr13: Criten:  Sorry I think I noticed my issue (I have to put in something where *mirror-address* is... although can I just put in lug.mtu.edu?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/157020/
[08:50] <DansTheMan1> I don't understand it.
[08:50] <liquidmeson> ajah, there should be a bar on the top that says upgrade to 9.04
[08:50] <DansTheMan1> =(
[08:50] <Adil> so remove the monitors.xml file
[08:50] <Adil> ill try that usr13
[08:50] <usr13> Kr0ntab: Actually, another way would be to boot to the live CD and if it looks good,
[08:50] <TheFunkbomb> DansTheMan1, is the drive mounted?
[08:50] <DansTheMan1> I don't know, TheFunkbom.
[08:50] <usr13> Kr0ntab: copy the xorg.conf file to the HD
[08:50] <DansTheMan1> *thefunkbomb
[08:50] <AK_Dave> TheFunkbomb: andy_ was unhelpable, disappeared.
[08:51] <TheFunkbomb> I don't think you can mess with a mounted drive
[08:51] <DansTheMan1> I believe it is though, thefunkbomb, as i can access it in Windows.
[08:51] <ajah> liquidmeson witch  *.conf files will change
[08:51] <liquidmeson> ajah, if you don't see the bar on top with upgrade 9.04 make sure you click "check"
[08:51] <DansTheMan1> How do i unmount it then TheFunkbomb?
[08:51] <x3cion> Ello
[08:51] <GodfatherofEire1> Exactly where would I get the .deb file for ndiswrapper for jaunty?
[08:51] <TheFunkbomb> that's a good question
[08:51] <usr13> Kr0ntab: Or copy the xorg.conf to a thumb drive and then to the /etc/X11/ directory
[08:51] <liquidmeson> ajah, it won't change your preferences
[08:51] <Criten> andy_: so.. this is a fresh install?
[08:51] <DansTheMan1> TheFunkbomb: When i right-click, Unmount is grayed out :(
[08:51] <ajah> liquidmeson k
[08:51] <TheFunkbomb> well, that's never good
[08:51] <liquidmeson> ajah, if it does it will tell you  and ask if you want to or not
[08:52] <andy_> ill try restarting once more - thanks anyway
[08:52] <liquidmeson> just say yes or no
[08:52] <usr13> Kr0ntab: The live CD has very good hardware detection and would probably create a good xorg.conf file.
[08:52] <DansTheMan1> TheFunkbomb: Do you know any ways to resolve this issue or why the menu option is grayed out?
[08:52] <TheFunkbomb> I'm thinking
[08:52] <TheFunkbomb> go into a terminal and type in cd /dev/disk
[08:52] <cavaradossi> when i create a vpn pptp  connection it isays "failed becuase the connection attemp timed out"
[08:53] <DansTheMan1> I checked the drive and it said to run a chkdsk /f on windows.
[08:53] <DansTheMan1> Ok
[08:53] <TheFunkbomb> ah
[08:53] <cavaradossi> what does it mean?
[08:53] <TheFunkbomb> DansTheMan1, boot up in windows and chkdsk it
[08:53] <Adil> usr13 how do i get to the live cd?
[08:53] <DansTheMan1> Ok, why though?
[08:53] <TheFunkbomb> I had the same issue last night with my external
[08:53] <TheFunkbomb> You probably have errors on the disk
[08:53] <DansTheMan1> Ok
[08:53] <cavaradossi> when i create a vpn pptp  connection it isays "failed becuase the connection attemp timed out"
[08:53] <usr13> Adil: Just the install CD
[08:53] <DansTheMan1> I'll check :)
[08:53] <TheFunkbomb> chkdsk /f
[08:53] <Criten> gbear14275
[08:53] <DansTheMan1> Thanks TheFunkbomb :)
[08:53] <TheFunkbomb> no problem
[08:53] <Criten> gbear14275: it should just work when pasted in tere
[08:54] <cavaradossi> what does it mean?
[08:54] <usr13> Adil: YOu can actually just copy it directly over to the hard drive
[08:54] <TheFunkbomb> it feels good to give back a little after taking oh so much
[08:54] <Adil> ok ill try that
[08:54] <cavaradossi> anyone to help me with a vpn connection problem /
[08:54] <cavaradossi> ?
[08:54] <ZhouYu> does xchat has some script editor ? so i can configure autojoin channel and auto identify nick ?
[08:54] <usr13> Adil: But if it is easier for you, you can copy it to a thumb drive first.
[08:54] <gbear14275> Criten: like this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/157020/
[08:55] <defrysk> !anyone | cavaradossi
[08:55] <usr13> cavaradossi: Sure, ask your question.
[08:55] <liquidmeson> ZhouYu, pidgin does :p
[08:55] <cavaradossi> thanks
[08:55] <usr13> ZhouYu: I don't know but irssi does.
[08:55] <n2diy> TheFunkbomb: isn't it cool to give back!?
[08:56] <TheFunkbomb> it is.  Now I don't feel so cheap
[08:56] <ZhouYu> liquidmeson: tried with pidgin but it's not very comfortable
[08:56] <ZhouYu> usr13: ok2 i'll try irssi thx :)
[08:56] <Criten> gbear14275: which one did you add?
[08:56] <gbear14275> at the bottom I noted it with a comment
[08:56] <gbear14275> last 5 lines
[08:57] <liquidmeson> in pidgin , just click on conversation and add
[08:57] <KIAaze> ZhouYu, you can configure the channels to autojoin in xchat->network list->select server->Edit->favorite channels
[08:57] <usr13> ZhouYu: http://irssi.org/documentation  (see startup howTo)
[08:57] <liquidmeson> then select auto join
[08:57] <Grexeo> is it possible to install Ubuntu Network Remix 9.04 on a Asus EEE 900?
[08:58] <goshawk> hi, is there a page where all the new jaunty features are described?
[08:58] <liquidmeson> i think so
[08:58] <AK_Dave> Grexeo: yes
[08:58] <Criten> gbear14275: what tutorial are you using?
[08:58] <liquidmeson> download the iso, and then get unetbootin
[08:58] <liquidmeson> to install via usb
[08:58] <glick> sweeeet Dell is comming over in a couple of days and fixing all my shizzy
[08:58] <Grexeo> AK_Dave: what version do I download? the one on ubuntu.com requires at Atom processor, which the eee 900 doesn't have
[08:58] <Kr0ntab> hehe
[08:58] <gbear14275> Criten: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-use-apt-p2p-for-faster-upgrades-from-ubuntu-intrepid-810-to-jaunty-904.html
[08:58] <Grexeo> *at = an
[08:59] <jeeva11> can we paste screenshot.png to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[08:59] <[u]Jinks> ZhouYu, click on network list - you can perform commands or you can put something like LOAD -e somefile to execute commands
[08:59] <AK_Dave> Grexeo: use the UNR version, which is i386. The only version that is Atom-specific is the MID version.
[08:59] <sidewalk> the sound stopped working on my machine since the dist-upgrade yesterday to 9.04, anyone have any ideas for how to solve this?
[08:59] <theclaw> any recommendations for an music player - except amarok? (I don't quite like amarok 2)
[08:59] <AK_Dave> Grexeo: Or you could install the desktop i386 and apt-get install ubuntu-netbook-remix
[09:00] <AK_Dave> theclaw: banshee from ppa
[09:00] <topherelli> i really like songbird
[09:00] <saptap> hey guys
[09:00] <saptap> i got no sound in jaunty
[09:00] <topherelli> but is up to you
[09:00] <theclaw> AK_Dave: is the ppa version really necessary?
[09:00] <saptap> whats the deal
[09:00] <liquidmeson> grexeo, eee 900 has an atom
[09:00] <Grexeo> liquidmeson: 900a does, not the regular 900
[09:00] <Grexeo> on ubuntu.com it says:
[09:00] <Grexeo> What do I need to install Ubuntu Netbook Remix?
[09:01] <CIC_SW> i'm trying to get firewire working on this laptop
[09:01] <Grexeo> An Intel Atom processor
[09:01] <CIC_SW> but when i modprobe raw1394 i get errors
[09:01] <Grexeo> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download-netbook
[09:01] <CIC_SW> sudo modprobe raw1394 ieee1394 video1394 ohci1394FATAL: Error inserting raw1394 (/lib/modules/2.6.28-11-generic/kernel/drivers/ieee1394/raw1394.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[09:01] <AK_Dave> theclaw: The version in repos is 1.43
[09:01] <usr13> !sound | saptap
[09:01] <Grexeo> or is that a mistake on ubuntu.com?
[09:01] <florin_> hi guys i have this VGA 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) and it works ok in ubuntu 8.04 and 8.10 no need driver or something and now after upgrade to jaunty i cannot nebale desktop effect , how can i activate the driver
[09:01] <saptap> alright ill check it
[09:02] <AK_Dave> Grexeo: jaunty UNR is i386, jaunty MID is lpia
[09:02] <liquidmeson> grexeo, http://excess.org/article/2009/01/ubuntu-nbr-eee-pc-900-working-webcam-and-mic/
[09:02] <florin_> pls someone help e
[09:02] <Richard15243> Hey, does this mean MySQL port 3306 can only accept connections from localhost? <IP_ADDRESS>:3306
[09:02] <Criten> gbear14275: You need to change **mirror-address** to one of the mirroes
[09:02] <theclaw> AK_Dave: which is the current stable release?
[09:02] <theclaw> AK_Dave: I'll just give it a try, thx :)
[09:02] <Richard15243> richard@richard-desktop:/etc/mysql$ netstat -an | grep ^tcp
[09:02] <Richard15243> tcp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:3306          <IP_ADDRESS>:*               LISTEN
[09:02] <AK_Dave> Grexeo: UNR bolts on with apt-get to jaunty desktop :)
[09:03] <cybersplice> Richard, MySQL doesn't accept connections on 3306 from anywhere but localhost by default.
[09:03] <Richard15243> Oh yeah, that makes sense.  I saw the sticky in the forums, but I'm not sure I should use it.
[09:03] <AK_Dave> theclaw: Right now, as of this moment, the jaunty repos have the most update version of banshee stable. My reason to use the ppa for banshee is that it changes faster than jaunty repos update
[09:04] <liquidmeson> works great
[09:04] <florin_> hi guys i have this VGA 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) and it works ok in ubuntu 8.04 and 8.10 no need driver or something and now after upgrade to jaunty i cannot nebale desktop effect , how can i activate the driver
[09:04] <cybersplice> Richard, no worries, we all do it sometime ;)
[09:04] <marcelo> I am currently using OpenSUSE 11.1 and thinking about switching to Ubuntu and I wanted to make sure the version 9.04 is good to go because I read some bad comments about it...   any sugestions switch or not?
[09:04] <Criten> lovinglinux: havent had a problem with it.. i have been using the 9.04 with ext4 for a couple months now
[09:04] <jeeva11> how to compile c programs in terminal..i used gcc but i am getting errors as stdio.h:no file or directory found
[09:04] <liquidmeson> florin, try droping to single user "sudo init 1" and reconfigureing graphics
[09:05] <cavaradossi> Doea anyone knows ....when i create a vpn pptp  connection it isays "failed becuase the connection attemp timed out" , what does it mean ?
[09:05] <cybersplice> Has anyone used heartbeat/pacemaker in 9.04?
[09:05] <Grexeo> liquidmeson: thanks
[09:05] <Criten> jeeva11: what are you trying to compile?
[09:05] <AK_Dave> theclaw: Something to consider: "unstable" usually means "subject to change" not "flakey and prone to meltdown without notice" (although there is a bit of that too).
[09:05] <gbear14275> Criten: thanks
[09:05] <Criten> gbear14275: did it work?
[09:05] <lovinglinux> Criten: that's nice to know. The issue with data loss is only if the system crashes right?
[09:06] <_igel_> Hi
[09:06] <jeeva11> Criten: i am trying to compile c program
[09:06] <Richard15243> Anyone know where Apache sets it listen address / port?
[09:06] <Criten> lovinglinux: I have never had an issue in linux where i have lost any data, ever.
[09:06] <gbear14275> Criten: loading up the new sources using apt-get update after clearing the cache and doesn't seem to be giving the errors this time so I'm thinking so... but I'll let you know if I run into troubles again
[09:06] <milligan_> iperf -r .. does it report upload or download first ?
[09:06] <AK_Dave> Criten: I have, but it was 100% pebkac. :)
[09:06] <cavaradossi> Doea anyone knows ....when i create a vpn pptp  connection it isays "failed becuase the connection attemp timed out" , what does it mean ?
[09:06] <liquidmeson> lovinglinux, yes,... well it depends on the application
[09:06] <theclaw> AK_Dave: yeah I know, but I'm fine with the current version I think
[09:06] <Criten> AK_Dave: ;)
[09:06] <lovinglinux> Criten: thanks a lot
[09:06] <liquidmeson> jeeva11, you need gcc
[09:07] <Criten> liquidmeson: he has it
[09:07] <liquidmeson> jeeva11 to compile c programss
[09:07] <usr13> Richard15243: 80
[09:07] <aLeSD> hi all
[09:07] <Criten> Hello
[09:07] <lovinglinux> liquidmeson:  it does mean I will loose the entire disk conent right, just what the program is saving to disk?
[09:07] <marcelo> how do i upgrade from 8.4 to 9.4? (command line)
[09:07] <aLeSD> I have a problem with Xserver
[09:07] <Richard15243> usr13: yeah, but what file is this set in ?
[09:07] <florin_> hi guys i have this VGA 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) and it works ok in ubuntu 8.04 and 8.10 no need driver or something and now after upgrade to jaunty i cannot nebale desktop effect , how can i activate the driver  , pls can anyone help me?
[09:07] <lovinglinux> liquidmeson: I menas doesn't...
[09:07] <usr13> Richard15243: /etc/http/httpd.conf
[09:07] <jeeva11> liquidmeson:i think gcc is already build in ubuntu 8.04?
[09:07] <radioaktivstorm> Howdy, is there a place that I can get glib 2.6? jaunty has 2.0 or something.
[09:08] <Richard15243> usr13: i thought in apache2.x they changed the httpd.conf, its empty now ?
[09:08] <aLeSD> I updated to 9.04 and when the xserver starts after a while my monitor says "no cable connected"
[09:08] <Criten> florin_: does it show up in System->Administration->Hardware Drivers?
[09:08] <liquidmeson> lovinglinux, yes
[09:08] <aLeSD> I had a look to the Xorg.0.log ... but all is working
[09:08] <stevem_> Am I right in saying LTS releases come about when Debian releases a new version?
[09:08] <aLeSD> I have an intel graphic card
[09:08] <liquidmeson> jeeva11, not sure im in 9.04
[09:08] <lovinglinux> liquidmeson: thanks
[09:08] <stevem_> e.g. 8.04 was just before Lenny came out
[09:08] <AK_Dave> aLeSD: does it have two monitor ports?
[09:08] <florin_> Criten, no , only the wifi card
[09:09] <ziroday> stevem_: no, LTS releases come out every two years
[09:09] <gbear14275> Criten: launching the update now... hoping that this helps the download speeds.  As I understand it the p2p aspect should be transparent... I'
[09:09] <usr13> Richard15243: Well, I don't know.  I just thought it would still be  /etc/httpd/httpd.conf
[09:09] <stevem_> ziroday, which is roughly timed with Debian it seems
[09:09] <Richard15243> usr13: yeah unfortunately they changed that i think, its more "modular" now
[09:09] <gbear14275> yeah it worked... went from 47kpbs... so really fast... just finished the last 400 packages in about... 2 seconds
[09:09] <jeeva11> liquidmeson:when i check gcc its showing as:gcc:no input files it means gcc is already inbuild right?
[09:09] <liquidmeson> stevem_ lts comes out every other year
[09:09] <Criten> gbear14275: Awesome
[09:09] <AK_Dave> aLeSD: The "no cable connected" error generally means that the monitor is not detecting any signal coming to it.
[09:09] <aLeSD> I tried with vesa driver ... but I have the same problem
[09:10] <ziroday> stevem_: Debian has no definitive release schedule, they could release every year, or every 3 years
[09:10] <stevem_> liquidmeson, well Dapper came out when Etch was ready... and Hardy came out when Lenny was ready
[09:10] <liquidmeson> yes... they tend to go together
[09:10] <aLeSD> AK_Dave thanks ... if I force 1024x768 I saw strange screen images
[09:10] <florin_> Criten, better tomake a clean install, in other ubuntu version my VGA works ok, i dont know why in jaunty not working
[09:10] <frank_> ahh, ubuntu making me mad :(
[09:10] <stevem_> liquidmeson, so it'll be about when Squeeze is ready we see 10.04
[09:10] <aLeSD> AK_Dave with vesa driver the screen stays black
[09:11] <Criten> florin_: hmm.. ive never had an issue with my laptop card (integrarted intel) but everyone else seems to be having problems... possibly check the forums
[09:11] <usr13> Richard15243: apt-cache showpkg apache2    should show you.
[09:11] <liquidmeson> stevem_10.04 will be kick ass
[09:11] <AK_Dave> aLeSD: dunno
[09:11] <Ekips> Is it normal Jaunty is about 50% slower and consuming a lot more memory than Ibex?
[09:11] <screamsayonara> why when i type 'make' in the terminal would it say, "*** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop."? I'm pretty sure there are 2 files in the directory that startwith 'makefile'
[09:11] <florin_> Criten, ok tnx for the help
[09:11] <aLeSD> ok
[09:11] <Ekips>  9997 jochenc   20   0  522m  86m  27m S    2  4.3   0:22.80 firefox 6110 jochenc   20   0  437m  50m  17m S    0  2.5   0:01.64 deskbar-applet
[09:11] <SoylentYellow> How do I create a simple script that will run a single command like uptime. I created a simple .sh script with a single line "konsole uptime" but all that does it opens an empty console window and does NOT run the uptime command.
[09:11] <liquidmeson> Ekips no
[09:11] <Criten> frank_: whats making you mad? :P
[09:11] <AK_Dave> Ekips: opposite in my observation
[09:11] <Ekips> That's firefox with 1 tab
[09:11] <frank_> cat /proc/cpuinfo gives me cpu mhz 1725 on a 2.2 ghz cpu
[09:11] <Ekips> And uhm, that's it
[09:11] <Ekips> gnome running without compiz or anything
[09:12] <SoylentYellow> This stuff is super simple under Windows with batch files.
[09:12] <sanjayb> installing Jaunty - Installer has been stuck at 82% - Scanning the Mirror... for over 10 minutes now. Any ideas?
[09:12] <SoylentYellow> Anyone any idea?
[09:12] <beli> solid_liq: you need to read how your Xapp (konsole) takes parameters
[09:12] <beli> solid_liq: man konsole
[09:12] <usr13> SoylentYellow: Where do you need the uptime output to go to?
[09:12] <Criten> okay... im going to go attempt to compile Boxee
[09:12] <Ekips> It also seems to add "delays"
[09:12] <SoylentYellow> the window
[09:12] <usr13> SoylentYellow: What are you trying to do?
[09:12] <Ekips> As in I close a window, which happens 30 seconds later
[09:12] <Ekips> Or sound stops and resumes 20s after that
[09:12] <patapo> hi i have no empty cd to write new ubuntu. how can i install without cd ? to the boot ?
[09:12] <Ekips> No idea why and how
[09:12] <sanjayb> SoylentYellow: read up about shell scripts - it is easier than windows batch files .
[09:12] <cavaradossi> Doea anyone knows ....when i create a vpn pptp  connection it isays "failed becuase the connection attemp timed out" , what does it mean ?
[09:13] <liquidmeson> jeeva11, just type in the program you wan tto compile... "gcc foo"
[09:13] <SoylentYellow> I've been reading for two hours sanjayb
[09:13] <beli> solid_liq: and you need to give a initial line in the script, that tells with what interpreter it should be run.....use  #!/bin/bash   for your first line to execute konsole from bash
[09:13] <sanjayb> patapo: look up Installing USB from a Flash Drive, if your computer is able to read flash drives .
[09:13] <liquidmeson> jeeva11, you might need g++ for c++
[09:13] <n2diy> SoylentYellow: play with "echo" in the command.
[09:13] <SoylentYellow> first line is #!/bin/bash
[09:13] <koshari> patapo usb drive
[09:13] <jeeva11> liquidmeson:i am doing only c programs but not c++
[09:13] <beli> solid_liq: besides that you can make the script executable (chmod +x script.sh) and then run it with ./script.sh
[09:14] <sanjayb> My Installer is still stuck at "Scanning the Mirror" and i don't know what to do. Please, someone ?
[09:14] <usr13> SoylentYellow: What is it that you want to happen on the machine?
[09:14] <liquidmeson> jeeva11 "sudo gcc programtocompile"?
[09:14] <koshari> sanjayb unplug your ethernet until it gets to next stage
[09:14] <patapo> sanjayb: first, should i download the usb version?
[09:14] <SoylentYellow> like I said, display uptime. (as a test script before I move on) first line is #!/bin/bash, second line is konsle uptime.
[09:14] <sanjayb> koshari: its wireless - but probably just disable the wireless . thanks much .
[09:14] <SoylentYellow> all that does is launch empty konsole window
[09:15] <screamsayonara> ok so is there an alternative way to install this libgpod-0.7.2 ?
[09:15] <usr13> SoylentYellow: Yes, first line is  #!/bin/bash next line is just uptime
[09:15] <sanjayb> SoylentYellow: konsole uptime is definitely wrong - just uptime should work .
[09:15] <koshari> patapo you can boot the new vrsion in a VM and make a usb key from there , the cd and usb version are the same
[09:15] <beli> SoylentYellow: make sure konsole is in the path or give the full path to it....and check how konsole takes commands (man konsole)
[09:15] <swisslady_zh> hat jemand erfahrung mit nfs?
[09:15] <n2diy> SoylentYellow: "echo uptime"+
[09:15] <jeeva11> liquidmeson:yes i did sudo gcc f.c but error:stdio.h :no file or directory like that many header error files are coming
[09:15] <SoylentYellow> I just tried only uptime. nothing happens
[09:15] <usr13> SoylentYellow: Then just give the file executable bit:  chmod +x uptime-script
[09:16] <SoylentYellow> files is already executable usr13
[09:16] <liquidmeson> jeeva11, are you doing thin in like geany?
[09:16] <beli> SoylentYellow: do what i told you....read!
[09:16] <screamsayonara> i have a file called libgpod-0.7.2.tar.gz and i need to install it, except the make command wont work.... what can i do!
[09:16] <comair> what is the current and the next lts support release of ubuntu?
[09:16] <screamsayonara> ive been here all day
[09:16] <jeeva11> liquidmeson: i don't know about geany
[09:16] <beli> screamsayonara: what are you going to to at all?
[09:16] <usr13> see n2diy's comments
[09:16] <SoylentYellow> beli, what?
[09:16] <sidewalk> my LineOut in Alsa Mixer is set to minimum, can anyone tell me how i change this? :P
[09:16] <screamsayonara> im trying to sort out my ipod so it will recognise the files i put on it through amarok
[09:17] <screamsayonara> so i have libgpod
[09:17] <beli> SoylentYellow: man konsole and give the full path to konsole /path/to/konsole whatever it is
[09:17] <screamsayonara> except it wont install properly, it says there is no makefile
[09:17] <screamsayonara> but there IS im sure of it
[09:17] <Criten> jeeva11: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:17] <beli> SoylentYellow: maybe konsole takes commands like konsole --someevilparameter "uptime"   i dont know...read the manual (man konsole)
[09:17] <liquidmeson> jeeva11, if you try compiling a simple hello world, what do you get?
[09:17] <usr13> SoylentYellow: which konsole      will give path
[09:18] <beli> usr13: if its in the path ;)
[09:18] <koshari> screamsayonara you cant get a binarie or package>?
[09:18] <SoylentYellow> usually launching the terminal and typing uptime gives me uptime.
[09:18] <beli> usr13: and if its in the path...it isnt needed
[09:18] <usr13> beli: Yes, that's true.
[09:18] <rio> hi, when i boot jaunty, the desktop comes up but the network takes about 30 seconds till networkmanager asks me for my passphrase, is there a way to get networkmanager start earlier during boot process?
[09:18] <SoylentYellow> I figured it was as simple as with windows and batch files
[09:18] <screamsayonara> i have googled and stuff but all i can find is the .tar.gz
[09:18] <liquidmeson> :p
[09:18] <beli> SoylentYellow: it is, just d*mn do what i tell you
[09:18] <screamsayonara> i dont know how to get it through the terminal, and i need to make sure its the right version
[09:18] <screamsayonara> im not good at this stuff yet
[09:18] <n2diy> SoylentYellow: "echo uptime"+
[09:18] <usr13> SoylentYellow: Yes, it is as simple.  Just a little different
[09:18] <jeeva11> liquidmeson:http://paste.ubuntu.com/157028/
[09:18] <SoylentYellow> "echo uptime"+ o worky
[09:19] <comair> what is the current and the next lts support release of ubuntu?
[09:19]  * beli sighs
[09:19] <koshari> screamsayonara what version are you using, (both OS and library you want) ?
[09:19] <SoylentYellow> so if I tried using xterm it would be same?
[09:19] <koshari> comair i guess it will be 10.04
[09:19] <screamsayonara> intrepid, and im trying to put on libgpod-0.7.2 ...
[09:19] <frank_> anyone have ubuntu 9.04?
[09:19] <frank_> 64 bit
[09:19] <beli> screamsayonara: better you search for a precompiled package for ubuntu then....compilin without any knowledge is not that easy
[09:19] <n2diy> SoylentYellow: play with the syntax.
[09:20] <usr13> SoylentYellow: Yea pretty much the same.
[09:20] <mlowe> frank, i do
[09:20] <screamsayonara> but ive done it before with help, im sure i could do it if i understood why the make command wont work
[09:20] <beli> screamsayonara: the problem is that you need to know correct locations or/and howto tell amarok howto find it...maybe amarok needs to be compiled again also afterwards to use the lib
[09:20] <Criten> jeeva11: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:20] <koshari> screamsayonara you are best to install with build essentual and checkinstall
[09:20] <jeeva11> Criten:ok
[09:20] <usr13> SoylentYellow: See: http://www.intuitive.com/wicked/
[09:20] <cavaradossi> Doea anyone knows ....when i create a vpn pptp  connection it isays "failed becuase the connection attemp timed out" , what does it mean ?
[09:21] <beli> screamsayonara: and if you install it...use checkinstall to make a package...so you can remove all the files afterwards if they went to a wrong location
[09:21] <anderson> how to deal with "Warning: Unable to load any usable ISO8859-1 font"
[09:21] <frank_> mlowe: are you able to update?
[09:21] <MrBogus> what is a good book to learn networking in linux?
[09:21] <liquidmeson> jeeva11, what criten said
[09:21] <beli> MrBogus: network administrators guide2 ...its free
[09:22] <MrBogus> beli: where can i find it?
[09:22] <beli> MrBogus: google
[09:22] <jeeva11> liquidmeson: may be to install gcc we need that command
[09:22] <mlowe> frank_, i did fresh install
[09:22] <n2diy> MrBogus: The Rute Manual, it is onsine.
[09:22] <frank_> mlowe: i did do a fresh install
[09:22] <MrBogus> ok thanks
[09:22] <macvr> rio: any luck? with how to start the wireless earlier? i have same prob...
[09:22] <frank_> mlowe: but trying to do the update
[09:22] <frank_> update manager
[09:23] <usr13> MrBogus: http://www.faqs.org/docs/linux_network/
[09:23] <raylu> how do i specify the vim option tabstop=8 inside a file? there's some way with comments
[09:23] <mlowe> frank_, servers are SLOW
[09:23] <beli> MrBogus: http://www.faqs.org/docs/linux_network/   its also available as pdf or ps...
[09:23] <SoylentYellow> how would I launch another script with script? first line: #!/bin/bash    then second line: script2.sh ?
[09:23] <frank_> mlowe: umm, NOT WORKING
[09:23] <MrBogus> thanks again. :)
[09:23] <frank_> for me
[09:23] <mlowe> all you can do is wait
[09:23] <liquidmeson> jeeva11, type in "sudo apt-get install build-essential" into the terminal and then try compiling again?
[09:23] <frank_> :(
[09:23] <frank_> epic fail
[09:23] <usr13> SoylentYellow: Yea, pretty much, but you might include the path
[09:24] <Criten> liquidmeson: he is trying it
[09:24] <beli> SoylentYellow: make the 2nd script executable and do /path/to/2ndscript.sh
[09:24] <Criten> Well... he said he was
[09:24] <liquidmeson> i think this form is addicting
[09:24] <MrBogus> uusr13: does it have a pdf format?
[09:25] <MrBogus> usr13: does it have a pdf format?
[09:25] <beli> SoylentYellow: there are plenty nice bash introductions...read one...start here --> http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.htmlhttp://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html
[09:25] <usr13> MrBogus: Yes I think so.
[09:25] <liquidmeson> #!/bin/bash
[09:25] <jeeva11> liquidmeson:yes i am trying ..still 20 minutes..
[09:25] <usr13> MrBogus: http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&start=5&q=http://www.skype.com/security/network-admin-guide-version2.2.pdf&ei=y3bxSYjrO9CclQfJ1IS8DA&usg=AFQjCNFcH6CVAFkL-ksvAtjyg0gIMIr8aQhttp://www.google.com/url?sa=U&start=5&q=http://www.skype.com/security/network-admin-guide-version2.2.pdf&ei=y3bxSYjrO9CclQfJ1IS8DA&usg=AFQjCNFcH6CVAFkL-ksvAtjyg0gIMIr8aQ
[09:26] <MrBogus> usr13: wow, thanks
[09:26] <usr13> MrBogus: ooops sorry...  http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&start=5&q=http://www.skype.com/security/network-admin-guide-version2.2.pdf&ei=y3bxSYjrO9CclQfJ1IS8DA&usg=AFQjCNFcH6CVAFkL-ksvAtjyg0gIMIr8aQ
[09:26] <beli> MrBogus: learn to google....dont ask any sh*t ;)
[09:26] <koshari> SoylentYellow if the script is in the path
[09:26] <MrBogus> beli: haha. lol
[09:26] <usr13> Something's wrong with my mouse sorry.  MrBogus Just use google, you'll find it.
[09:26] <Skapare> googling is a learned skill ... takes about 1/2 minute
[09:27] <x3cion> I've a laptop with an external monitor connected. I wrote some things in my xorg.conf ( http://paste.ubuntu.com/157038/ ) so it starts up with dualview and such. The problem is, my internal lcd starts up with 1280x854, even though it's native resolution is 1440x900 (xrandr -q: http://paste.ubuntu.com/157040/ ). How can I ensure, that my lcd has the right resolution from start on?
[09:27] <frank_> when i installed ubuntu, it didn't add my windows 7 to the grub, any idea how to add it?
[09:27] <cdab> hi
[09:27] <cdab> got a question
[09:27] <liquidmeson> lmgtfy
[09:27] <Criten> frank_: Add it to menu.lst in the grub folder under boot
[09:27] <MrBogus> i just wanted to know if there is more relevant than google. :)
[09:27] <viqas> cdab,  so does a 1000 other people in this room
[09:27] <Criten> frank_: you need the drive and partition number though
[09:28] <usr13> !grub | frank_
[09:28] <cdab> is there any difference between 9.04 and 9.04 UNR besides the gui things? (e.g. energy saving, ...)
[09:28] <liquidmeson> x3cion, maybe uncheck mirrored screens?
[09:28] <koshari> MrBogus go to ubuntu furums ,that will likely answer any general queries you have
[09:28] <frank_> Criten: is there a tutorial?
[09:29] <topherelli> hi if i upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04 via update manager do i have to install everything from scratch?
[09:29] <frank_> that way i don't mess up my grub
[09:29] <liquidmeson> x3cion, from the display
[09:29] <liquidmeson> topherelli, no! :D
[09:29] <topherelli> thanks liquid
[09:29] <koshari> topherell the process will install the updated packages as part of the process
[09:29] <x3cion> liquidmeson, what do you mean? My screens are next to each other, the external right of the internal as stated in the xorg.conf
[09:30] <topherelli> ok thanks think ill start now
[09:30] <koshari> x3cion generally for the OS to get the res correct it needs to be able to read the edid reply
[09:30] <liquidmeson> x3cion, sorry i read it wrong
[09:30] <heatxsink> anyone know how I can regenerate the default config setup for a deb
[09:30] <heatxsink> using apt
[09:30] <Criten> frank_: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub.html
[09:30] <heatxsink> do I do that with deb?
[09:30] <x3cion> koshari, it worked before, now its just messing up... xrandr reads the resolutions right, but it seems like that doesnt apply from start on
[09:30] <Criten> frank: thats pretty much everything about grub
[09:30] <gbear14275> Criten: Update... ok didn't look like I was that accurate in first assessment... I am seeing an increase in speeds... my time estimated till completion is now about an hour vs 8 from when I suspended the original http only upgrade.
[09:31] <bamball> Hi , does anyone know if the ATI non-free driver still has tearing problems with 9.04??
[09:31] <Criten> gbear14275: awesome
[09:31] <ipatel> i have ATI on my machine and it works perfectly wihtout the propiertary driver
[09:31] <Polterge|st> ok I finally burnt 9.04 LTS to a dvd
[09:31] <bamball> ipatel: what driver do u use?
[09:31] <Polterge|st> ipatel, that is how my grandpa's machine was
[09:32] <n2diy> 9.04 is LTS?
[09:32] <Polterge|st> the 9.04 release worked with his ATI card
[09:32] <Polterge|st> yes
[09:32] <gbear14275> Criten: my average seems to gone from just under 50KBps to just under 80KBps... so a 30KBps jump possibly... granted I am not 100% sure this is due to apt-p2p... BUT... i'm seeing an improvement and would guess this might be the cause
[09:32] <x3cion> koshari, something else weird: http://paste.ubuntu.com/157045/
[09:32] <heatxsink> do I use dpkg?
[09:32] <x3cion> some parts of my Xorg.0.log thingy
[09:33] <Polterge|st> I wonder, is there an upgrade option from the live DVD ?
[09:33] <Polterge|st> would it allow me to upgrade my linux partition
[09:33] <usr13> heatxsink: dpkg -i package.name.deb    will install
[09:33] <ipatel> ubuntu default
[09:33] <kane77> gbear14275, what is apt-p2p? If it is what it looks like I have just been wondering that something like this would be cool
[09:33] <usr13> heatxsink: man dpkg    will tell you more.
[09:33] <heatxsink> if I already have the deb installed
[09:33] <heatxsink> but there's a config that gets laid out
[09:34] <heatxsink> how do I force it to do that
[09:34] <usr13> heatxsink: a config that gets laid out?
[09:34] <bamball> i can literally see the screen redraw during video playback when not using ati's driver in 8.10
[09:34] <liquidmeson> awsome
[09:34] <gbear14275> kane77: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-use-apt-p2p-for-faster-upgrades-from-ubuntu-intrepid-810-to-jaunty-904.html
[09:35] <heatxsink> my understanding is when I install a package the associated config gets laid out
[09:35] <liquidmeson> you thinking,.. ./config make install
[09:35] <ipatel> glx
[09:35] <Criten> jeeva11: ever get it working?
[09:35] <gbear14275> kane77: It's (supposedly, and by my understanding) a package that supplements traditional http only package downloading with a bittorrent assist
[09:35] <liquidmeson> heatxsink, old fasion install
[09:35] <liquidmeson> heatxsink, not .deb
[09:36] <liquidmeson> heatxsink is all automatic
[09:36] <jeeva11> Criten:its still 9 minutes to download..
[09:36] <heatxsink> essentially my problem is I've installed apache, and the config is all jacked up
[09:36] <heatxsink> I want to reinstall apache
[09:36] <heatxsink> and its' configs
[09:36] <Criten> jeeva11: thats taking a while..
[09:36] <gbear14275> kane77: the idea (again as I understand it) is you get 2 ways to get packages instead of just 1, with the second channel being the bittorrent protocol
[09:36] <ipatel> The -ati driver now uses the EXA acceleration method by default, resolving a number of rendering and display issues and promising high performance on many ATI chipsets.
[09:36] <kane77> gbear14275, just like I thought! it sounds cool, I will try it
[09:36] <liquidmeson> heatxsink, sudo tasksell
[09:37] <usr13> heatxsink: Just fix it.
[09:37] <Criten> liquidmeson: you saying that make is an old way?
[09:37] <liquidmeson> heatxsink and re install lamp
[09:37] <pihhan> ah, ubuntu is released already?
[09:37] <liquidmeson> criten... welll no
[09:37] <gbear14275> kane77: warning... its still beta by reports... so use at your own risk
[09:37] <shaga> I have a quick question on a software recommendation. what program do you use for reading ebooks on pdf format? using a netbook here. fbreader can't open pdf and default reader lacks some options that are nice to have on a book reader device
[09:37] <liquidmeson> criten, but .deb sure are nicer
[09:37] <bamball> thanks ipatel. I did try both modes previously by tweaking xorg.conf.. didn't really have much difference.. maybe it's my card
[09:37] <liquidmeson> criten,... wel convient
[09:37] <kane77> pihhan, you missed the party! :D
[09:37] <x3cion> So noone has a clue about my problem?
[09:38] <gbear14275> kane77: BUT... I'm not too worried, i've got a seperate /home and /boot partition so I figure worst case I have to reinstall my OS... hopefully data is safe
[09:38] <pihhan> someone have problem with building KDE4 application using cmake?
[09:38] <Criten> liquidmeson: haha, i was going to say.. its not really the same category. But yea... debs are a much nicer because they are pre-compiled
[09:38] <asiniscalchi> is there a terminal program like usb-creator ?
[09:38] <ezberbozan> hello
[09:38] <ipatel> bamball: An updated -fglrx proprietary driver is also available for R6xx/R7xx users who need 3D support
[09:38] <askand> Hi, those new dialogs that popup when there is new updates, is there a way I can force one of them to come?
[09:38] <Criten> ezberbozan: Hello
[09:38] <usr13> heatxsink: What do you need to do?
[09:38] <kane77> gbear14275, I'm trying it anyway (I do have separate /home too)
[09:39] <usr13> heatxsink: What is the problem?
[09:39] <Criten> askand: just so you can see it? haha
[09:39] <heatxsink> usr13: I just want to revert the apache install back to when it was installed for the first time
[09:39] <BlueEagle> gbear14275: As long as you don't accidentally format /home when reinstalling then the data on the /home partition should be safe.
[09:39] <gbear14275> kane77: great to hear... the more the merrier... good luck!
[09:39] <liquidmeson> asiniscalchi, unetbootin works on all os's
[09:39] <bamball> ipatel: is that something new with 9.04 or it's been available since 8.10?
[09:39] <usr13> heatxsink: What is different?
[09:39] <heatxsink> usr13:  I"m trying to install cacti, and I think that cacti needs for apache to be installed in it's default way
[09:39] <ipatel> bamball: its a feature in 9.04
[09:39] <askand> Criten: haha kind off :P I'm writing an article
[09:39] <heatxsink> i removed the default file in sites-available
[09:39] <usr13> heatxsink: How so?
[09:39] <liquidmeson> asiniscalchi, to usb install iso's
[09:39] <pihhan> is mute key working in 9.04 to anyone? if worked fine to me in 8.04 and stopped in 9.04
[09:40] <gbear14275> BlueEagle: never had to worry about it although i've got a debian pro as a roomate... i mess something up I'm probably going to offer the beer-for-service request
[09:40] <kane77> gbear14275, I can imagine how fast upgrades would be if everyone used this
[09:40] <ipatel> bamball: listed under -> X.Org server 1.6
[09:40] <heatxsink> usr13: well when I try to point my virtual host at /usr/share/cacti/site/ it doesn't execute the php
[09:40] <Criten> askand: well, one of the ways to see it in action is to load up Pidgin and if its not in the foreground the overlay pops up with the message
[09:40] <usr13> heatxsink: There's really only one way to install it.  But what version did you have before? Are you upgrading apache?  is that it?
[09:40] <gbear14275> kane77: well... if it could get to a 1.0 release I bet the ubuntu guys wouldn't mind spreading out the update costs :)
[09:40] <heatxsink> usr13: no, I'm at the latest version of apache for my stuff
[09:41] <usr13> heatxsink: Oh, so php no longer works?
[09:41] <askand> Criten: what? Do iget message about updates when starting pidgin? o_o
[09:41] <asiniscalchi> liquidmeson I need a linux terminal program
[09:41] <gbear14275> kane77: we should probably discuss in offtopic
[09:41] <heatxsink> usr13: the module is loaded
[09:41] <Criten> askand: When someone messages you, and its not visible it notifys you who is talking to you and what they sent
[09:41] <crazyl1nk> i forgot the command to mount my 2nd hard drive Vea terminal
[09:42] <crazyl1nk> anyone assist? i rebooted and it removed it - -
[09:42] <gbear14275> kane77: see you there?
[09:42] <kane77> gbear14275, yup
[09:42] <ipatel> which format is you second hard drive?
[09:42] <usr13> heatxsink: see anything in the logs that gives you a clue?
[09:43] <serpico> hello
[09:44] <recon69> hi all, I'm remounting my old home directory on a new install of 9.04. wanted to check if the fstab line "UUID=31842086-8dfa-45fb-b235-e9a834bfedc3 /home ext3 relatime,errors=remount-ro 0 0" was ok?
[09:44] <SkyNetMaster> hi, I have updated to jauntry, and ctr-c in terminal is done, so I cant terminate current running application, is it a bug? what have pappend?
[09:45] <thorn_PL> hi\
[09:45] <recon69> or would /home         "  ext3    nodev,nosuid    0       2 " be better?
[09:45] <Criten> SkyNetMaster: ctrl-x?
[09:45] <thorn_PL> anybody know soft like Fruity Loops Studio for ubuntu ??
[09:45] <SkyNetMaster> Criten, that not works either
[09:45] <liquidmeson> asiniscalchi, usb-creator
[09:45] <heatxsink> usr13: no :-(
[09:46] <Criten> SkyNetMaster: do you mean that ctrl-c int copying?
[09:46] <Yucko> 5@XpJ#72a
[09:46] <Yucko> 576$2g*kJ
[09:46] <liquidmeson> asiniscalchi, "usb-creator --help"
[09:47] <thorn_PL> nobody? :(
[09:47] <Criten> thorn_PL: linux multimedia studio is pretty neat
[09:47] <SkyNetMaster> Criten, I want to terminate current running application in terminal. but it does not responde with any combination. and it doesn matter which application I start in it
[09:47] <ipatel> SkyNetMaster: within terminal define another combo for copying and then check if ctrl+c works
[09:47] <thorn_PL> Criten - thx
[09:47] <crazyl1nk> how do you mount a 2nd hard drive vea terminal my friend has done it i dont know how to thoi\
[09:48] <Criten> crazyl1nk: the mount command
[09:48] <g0lg0thaza> howdy
[09:48] <cavaradossi> can someone help me with a pptp connection ?
[09:48] <g0lg0thaza> just installed 9.04 and have a funky
[09:48] <Criten> thorn_PL: no problem i just found it today and its kinda cluttered but its not bad
[09:48] <ipatel> mount /dev/<hard disk> /mount/point
[09:48] <liquidmeson> crazyl1nk, sudo mount -o rw /dev/hda1 /media/wereyouwanttoview
[09:49] <g0lg0thaza> my mouse auto centres on a window when i open it
[09:49] <happyhessian> hi! i just plugged in a phone but it's not mounting correctly, how do i find out which folder in /dev it corresponds to?
[09:49] <Criten> SkyNetMaster: is it accually running a command or is it like stuck writing a command?
[09:49] <frank_> how do i open menu.lst in terminal to edit it
[09:49] <g0lg0thaza> how do you stop it from doing so
[09:49] <g0lg0thaza> i have compiz enabled
[09:49] <Criten> frank_: you can use "sudo gedit menu.lst"
[09:49] <recon69> hi all, I'm remounting my old home directory on a new install of 9.04. wanted to check if the fstab line "UUID=31842086-8dfa-45fb-b235-e9a834bfedc3 /home ext3 relatime,errors=remount-ro 0 0" was ok? or would " /home  ext3 nodev,nosuid 0 2 " be better?
[09:49] <liquidmeson> look for a compiz mouse option
[09:50] <SkyNetMaster> Criten, If I start some thin, like java app, or other application, which is not detached from terminal. So I cant exit it, from terminal
[09:50] <liquidmeson> you need the uuid
[09:50] <heatxsink> usr13:  when I explictly look for the php file in the GET it'll work
[09:50] <DJones> frank_: "gksudo gedit menu.lst"
[09:50] <macvr> frank_: in terminal u can use sudo nano
[09:50] <heatxsink> but if I just hit / it won't pick up index.php
[09:50] <liquidmeson> recon69, you have to have the uuid
[09:50] <Criten> SkyNetMaster: Ctrl-x still works for me.
[09:50] <ipatel> check your .htaccess
[09:50] <vox> how do i disable block device partition checking in kernel 2.6.28-11 ?
[09:50] <frank_> how can i know what root my winodws is at?
[09:50] <frank_> windows*
[09:51] <liquidmeson> apache2 has .htaccess disable by default
[09:51] <recon69> liquidmeson: was the options I was more interested in, I know I need the uuid :)
[09:51] <Criten> frank_: your trying to mount your windows drive?
[09:51] <SkyNetMaster> Criten, not for me :( wierd
[09:51] <liquidmeson> oh,, just a sec
[09:51] <frank_> trying to add it to grub
[09:51] <Criten> SkyNetMaster: that is weird.. :/
[09:51] <Criten> frank_: give me one sec..
[09:51] <jeeva11> Criten:http://paste.ubuntu.com/157052/
[09:52] <Criten> jeeva11: what are you trying to compile
[09:52] <ipatel> check if  your apache configuration file has: DirectoryIndex index.php index.html index.cgi index.pl index.xhtml
[09:52] <jeeva11> Criten: i want to compile gcc xgabormeandir.c gabor.c matrix.h -lm
[09:53] <Criten> then run that as a command
[09:53] <Criten> "gcc xgabormeandir.c gabor.c matrix.h -lm"
[09:54] <jeeva11> Criten:http://paste.ubuntu.com/157056/
[09:54] <owen1> does uxterm has differnt config than xterm? it seems like .Xdefaults is used only by xterm.
[09:54] <liquidmeson> ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[09:54] <Pabix> usr13, I have been able to solve my gdm freeze problem: I have removed the packages compiz-* and *fglrx* and added the “vga=773” option to boot
[09:54] <liquidmeson> recon69, ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[09:54] <serpico> hello
[09:54] <Criten> jeeva11: well.. your getting closser
[09:54] <Pabix> but I still have a little problem… I have tried to remove all my gdm configuration before re-installing gdm
[09:54] <liquidmeson> konichiwa
[09:54] <rakan> Hello all, my computer at work wont start. It says cannot open file /etc/default/rcS
[09:54] <jeeva11> Criten:getting errors
[09:54] <rakan> any idea why this happened all of a sudden
[09:54] <Pabix> and even though I have apt-get removed and reinstalled gdm, I do not have any gdm.conf file
[09:55] <rakan> ?
[09:55] <Criten> jeeva11: yea.. but not the simple errors
[09:55] <brutus> serpico, hello
[09:55] <Criten> jeeva11: see if you can find matrix.h somewhere
[09:55] <liquidmeson> jeeva11 try compiling your program in geany,.. its a nice development program you can get from the add remove menu
[09:55] <Criten> it should be with the files you are trying to compile
[09:55] <Pabix> So if anyone with a newly installed Jaunty could make an archive of his /etc/gdm directory, it would be of great help for me
[09:55] <Pabix> thank you
[09:56] <jeeva11> Criten:yes matrix.h is there a program ,first i need to compile matrix.h then that command?
[09:56] <bamball> thanks ipatel ~
[09:56] <recon69> liquidmeson: lol, I know the UUID , I just did not repeat it, "UUID=31842086-8dfa-45fb-b235-e9a834bfedc3 /home ext3 relatime,errors=remount-ro 0 0" or "UUID=31842086-8dfa-45fb-b235-e9a834bfedc3 /home  ext3 nodev,nosuid 0 2" , is one better that the other? or does it matter?
[09:56] <SkyNetMaster> Criten, ctrl-z still works, but only put application in "stop" mode
[09:56] <liquidmeson> :p
[09:56] <jeeva11> liquidmeson: i don't have geany i don't know how to install that
[09:56] <liquidmeson> applications, add/ remove
[09:56] <liquidmeson> check off geany
[09:56] <liquidmeson> apply
[09:57] <Criten> jeeva11: is it with the other files?
[09:57] <jeeva11> Criten:no
[09:57] <jeeva11> Criten:its in the same folder
[09:57] <liquidmeson> recon69, thats myn UUID=9bd61e2e-bba0-4ce7-9507-b0f02452a1f0 /               ext4    relatime,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[09:57] <rakan> Can't open /etc/default/rcS
[09:57] <Criten> jeeva11: well the compiler cant find it
[09:57] <Criten> Who was asking about grub....
[09:59] <jeeva11> liquidmeson:add/remove->i got geany now what should i do
[09:59] <liquidmeson> recon69, as long as grub can read it,.. its all good
[09:59] <Criten> Oh man... its 5:00 am... i should be getting to bed, Good Night everyone!
[09:59] <chillitom> flash has stopped working in firefox dispite having the adobe flash package installed... any ideas?
[09:59] <liquidmeson> jeeva11, new c source file
[10:00] <shaga> anyway to read a pdf file colors inverted?
[10:00] <liquidmeson> jeeva11, and then copy your program in there
[10:00] <shaga> like black background instead of white
[10:00] <neowangdue> hi all
[10:00] <fincan> I need help for totem and dvd playing problem in jaunty
[10:00] <recon69> liquidmeson: the first one works, just have a feeling that those options are not just for show, just wish I had a clue as to what they mean :)  thx for your input :)
[10:01] <liquidmeson> jeeva11, save the file somewere
[10:01] <liquidmeson> jeeva11, and then try compiling it some were
[10:01] <fincan> when I try to open a dvd with totem, this error message appears "Could not open location; you might not have permission to open the file."
[10:01] <irmandos> !isitout
[10:02] <liquidmeson> recon69, realtime is an option for hard drives
[10:02] <liquidmeson> recon69, i think 0,0 is the drives location
[10:02] <liquidmeson> recon69, remount if errors in read only
[10:03] <liquidmeson> recon69, noatime if you have ssd
[10:03] <fincan> any1 idea about totem and dvd playing problem?
[10:04] <zaggynl> nah, I use VLC for playing DVDs
[10:04] <recon69> fincan: did you install the dvd decoder ?
[10:04] <liquidmeson> fincan, if you play a file with totem just install whatever it wants
[10:05] <fincan> liquidmeson: it doesnt want to install any thing
[10:05] <ghabit> Hello. I need help - I have just installed ubuntu, but ubuntu swithces off my network (VIA Compatable Fast Ethernet), so I need to restart two-three times to windows for swithing it on back.
[10:05] <liquidmeson> fincan, try right clicking on the dvd and opening with totem
[10:05] <fincan> liquidmeson: I checked launchpad and there is a general problem about dvd pşaying
[10:05] <recon69> fincan: libdvdcss or somthing
[10:05] <fincan> liquidmeson: installed
[10:05] <fincan> recon69: installed
[10:06] <KoolD> whats the command to change file permissions???
[10:06] <serpico> ola
[10:06] <liquidmeson> fincan, not sure but maybe install ubuntu-restricted
[10:06] <liquidmeson> fincan, but i must admit vlc runs pretty well
[10:07] <fincan> liquidmeson: ubuntu-restricted installed too
[10:07] <liquidmeson> fincan, and it includes all the codecs you need
[10:07] <supersasho> KoolD: chmod
[10:07] <liquidmeson> fincan, yah its probebly a bug then
[10:07] <fincan> liquidmeson: smplayer and mplayer is bugged too
[10:07] <KoolD> supersasho: ey thanks
[10:07] <liquidmeson> fincan, i would maybe throw a coment up there on launchy
[10:08] <neowangdue> i have installed apache web server on my system and i tested in firefox.. localhost
[10:08] <neowangdue> it say ... its works
[10:08] <liquidmeson> yay
[10:08] <Insti> has releases.ubuntu.com stopped working for anyone else?
[10:08] <liquidmeson> nope
[10:08] <neowangdue> but next time i do it again ... i found some page is loading
[10:08] <KoolD> supersasho: but isn't chmod to change the file mode?? i want to change the user permissions
[10:09] <recon69> well, time to see if pointing my home folder to the old home partition works
[10:09] <Insti> KoolD: same thing
[10:09] <neowangdue> wat is the problem
[10:09] <liquidmeson> lnsti, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt
[10:09] <ipatel> neowangdue: which page is loading?
[10:10] <Cheery> Is there a way to get weather info through console?
[10:10] <Insti> liquidmeson thanks, I'm after the MD5sums though, for some old isos have lying around.
[10:10] <liquidmeson> KooID, ex "chmod 755 *" will give all files in the directory root rw and everyone else read
[10:12] <XAR> No wifi in Jaunty. Using iwl3945 for Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG. in iwconfig i can see wlan0 interface, but  sudo ifconfig wlan0 up just returns "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Connection timed out"
[10:12] <liquidmeson> insti, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[10:14] <liquidmeson> can you get wifi from the live cd xar?
[10:15] <supersasho> KoolD: but you have written file permission at first :)
[10:15] <steveccc> is there a way i can install xfce onto my standard gnome ubuntu installation so that I can switch between the two and not have to opt for a sole xubuntu install?
[10:15] <supersasho> KoolD: what do you want to do exactly with the file?
[10:16] <recon69> that went rather well :) , I like jaunty, it's stopped my computer from crashing :)
 Got no live cd, just upgraded from Intrepid
[10:17] <Andy80> hi all
[10:17] <liquidmeson> konbanwa
[10:17] <ninan> hi. I upgraded from 8.10 to 9.04 and now my X freezes on startup. Graphic chipset is Intel 82q33 (X3100 i guess).
[10:18] <liquidmeson> ninan, reboot, hit escape and choose recover (second from top choice)
[10:18] <liquidmeson> ninan, reconfigure graphics
[10:18] <liquidmeson> ninan, when you reboot you should get a grub menu upon hitting escape
[10:18] <manpoole> i need help editing my grub 2.0 list to boot fedora
[10:19] <liquidmeson> manpoole, sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:19] <manpoole> got that part
[10:19] <liquidmeson> stevecc, yes
[10:19] <manpoole> tried something but it didnt work
[10:19] <steveccc> liquidmeson: would i do that via the software installation area
[10:19] <liquidmeson> is fedora on another partition
[10:20] <manpoole> i have a /boot parition and a / partition for it
[10:20] <manpoole> seperate yes
[10:20] <manpoole> 2 seperate fedora partitions
[10:20] <ninan> liquidmeson already reconfigured. Nothing. xorg.conf ist mostly empty
[10:20] <liquidmeson> steveccc,  sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop
[10:21] <liquidmeson> steveccc, then when installed you can change from the login manager
[10:22] <liquidmeson> steveccc, you can also change before loging in (between gdm and xfce) its one of the options once its installed
[10:22] <liquidmeson> manpoole, so i think you need the uuid right?
[10:23] <manpoole> maybe
[10:23] <liquidmeson> manpoole do you have a long string of numbers in menu.lst? for the fedora
[10:24] <liquidmeson> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.28-11-generic root=UUID=9bd61e2e-bba0-4ce7-9507-b0f02452a1f0 ro quiet splash  likethis
[10:25] <steveccc> liquidmeson: thanks for your help.  are there any disadvantages from working some of the time in xfce and some of the time in gnome - with regard to home partition settings etc
[10:25] <manpoole> didnt create a fedora grub
[10:25] <liquidmeson> steveccc, i think when you install programs its going to install files for both displays,... so it takes up a good amount of space
[10:25] <manpoole> becuase of ext4
[10:26] <Andy80> I'm testing Ubuntu Jaunty (LIVE) on my Asus EeePC 901. The mouse movement is incredibly slower, compared to Ubuntu Intrepid... is there any way to fix it?!
[10:26] <Atomic_UE> what's the diff btw cd/dvd version? Just more packages on dvd that u don't need to dl?
[10:26] <nightf0x09> how can i change cpu frequency in kubuntu 9.04
[10:26] <liquidmeson> andy80, system , preferences, mouse
[10:27] <liquidmeson> andy80 sensitivity low, accel high
[10:27] <Andy80> liquidmeson: it doesn't work.... I've set it to the maximum value and it's still slow. it takes about 2 or 3 finger-movement to cover the whole diagonal.
[10:27] <steveccc> liquidmeson: oh ok - thanks.  I just want to try xfce really and see if i can use it on a daily basis without killing my gnome install.  Maybe I would be better trying it in a vm
[10:27] <ccooke> Are there any known ssh problems in Jaunty? I switched my work system yesterday and this morning ssh is hanging connecting to some Centos systems
[10:28] <shambat> how do I make good names for directories with syslog-ng? the existing setup is to use: "/var/log/$HOST/$FACILITY" which makes directories based on the IP, etc ... problem is that the $FACILITY makes files that look like local1, local2 etc...I'd like something more descriptive.
[10:28] <liquidmeson> stevecc, if you look around online there is a good command to clean out all the extra xfce files
[10:28] <liquidmeson> ccooke i don't have any
[10:29] <liquidmeson> ccooke maybe the increased timeout for safty?
[10:29] <liquidmeson> not sure
[10:29] <liquidmeson> shambat, like times?
[10:30] <swisslady_zh> leche http://nopaste.info/517b4bc737.html
[10:30] <swisslady_zh> sorry hab noch den copy drinn gehabt
[10:30] <askand1> Hi! Is there a way/command I can use to force a updatedialog to appear in Jaunty? Those dialogs that are supposed to come once a week, I need a screenshot for an article
[10:30] <shambat> liquidmeson: maybe something custom...idk
[10:30] <Staale-> Has anyone got dual monitor to work with ATI in Jaunty?
[10:31] <liquidmeson> it should work
[10:31] <shambat> local1 happens to be usernames, local2 happens to be AAA info
[10:31] <faileas> i've got a box on which i want to remove uncessary stuff... anyone know what's the package that contains bluetooth support?
[10:31] <sidewalk> I have a Realtek ALC 260 which doesn't play any sounds since my upgrade to Jaunty yesterday. It seems to be working fine, but no sounds come out of the speaker(s) or headphone(s)
[10:31] <loomsen> faileas: bluez*
[10:32] <faileas> thanks
[10:32] <loomsen> faileas: you might want to use deborphan too, sudo aptitude install deborphan
[10:33] <faileas> loomsen: what's that do?
[10:33] <loomsen> faileas: aptitude show deborphan
[10:33] <liquidmeson> shambat, man syslog-ng should show you a config file
[10:33] <liquidmeson> shambat, maybe look around in it for a line to configure it... not sure
[10:33] <liquidmeson> config file location
[10:34] <shambat> liquidmeson: yeah, I know the line, but I want to change it to something more useful
[10:34] <faileas> ahh
[10:34] <shambat> the file is /etc/syslog-ng/syslog-ng.conf
[10:34] <loomsen> faileas: so u like it?
[10:35] <faileas> loomsen: could be useful, though i'm more concerned with memory than hard disk space
[10:35] <faileas> box in question is running with all of 128 mb ;)
[10:35] <negge> I have a problem with some mounted samba shares. If I mount a samba share with the "auto,credentials=/etc/credentials" options in /etc/fstab, everything is fine except scandinavian letters appear as question marks in filenames. If I add "iocharset=utf8" to the fstab options the characters look normal, but I can somehow not write to files! What's going on here and how can I fix it?
[10:35] <steveccc> liquidmeson: have to go now - thanks for your help
[10:35] <liquidmeson> good luck
[10:35] <negge> by the way, the credentials I'm using to mount the share has Full Control permissions on the target server (it's a share from a W2K3 server)
[10:36] <liquidmeson> faileas, bluetooth is actualy contained in the 12mb or so kernel
[10:36] <faileas> liquidmeson: so... it changed nothing?
[10:36] <fincan> I jumped from gstreamer to xine and my dvd playback problem is over
[10:36] <loomsen> faileas: thats not that much, maybe you may want to install a command line system next time to have a minimal distro.... you just have to install xorg-core gnome-session and gdm
[10:36] <loomsen> faileas: and bam theres your minimal desktop
[10:36] <faileas> loomsen: the system in question is currently running lxde.
[10:36] <liquidmeson> faileas you can tell it to not start up,... save some boot time,.. but your not going to save much space
[10:37] <faileas> liquidmeson: thats good too.
[10:37] <loomsen> faileas: well, suits for kdm as well
[10:37] <faileas> my spare box is NEVER EVER gonna have bluetooth
[10:37] <liquidmeson> faileas, system, preferences, startup... disable bluetooth
[10:38] <faileas> liquidmeson: i removed the bluetooth package...
[10:38] <liquidmeson> the best way to cut down on phisical memory is to use xubuntu
[10:38] <loomsen> faileas: with so few mem, maybe try xfce rather than kdm or gdm? or do a netinstall and install only what you really want
[10:38] <faileas> and am rebooting to see if anything royally bad happened
[10:39] <faileas> loomsen/ liquidmeson : I'm running lxde. its lighter than both. I used a xubuntu base, since I can't do a netinstall - the box has wireless net only
[10:39] <liquidmeson> shambat, you might be able to change a line to like %t or something... but i dont' got that file on my pc to check
[10:40] <liquidmeson> nice
[10:40] <loomsen> faileas: well, nice job then+
[10:40] <faileas> i also had to turn off screensavers ;p
[10:40] <slim|> jaunty
[10:40] <saloxin> anyone have success with a dual monitor setup with 2 screens? no twinview or xinerama. I had it on intrepid, but can't get it to work on jaunty. neither nvidia nor nouveua driver.2
[10:40] <faileas> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ5Q9FOhjM8 <- see how slow it it ;p
[10:41] <loomsen> faileas: i always found pstree and pstree.x11 useful for cleaning up
[10:41] <zaggynl> waugh, next time, put the camera on a stand
[10:41] <faileas> loomsen: I'm actually suprised i got this working. I tried before with hardy, and had no luck
[10:42] <faileas> zaggynl: i'll try to, if i do it again ;p
[10:42] <loomsen> faileas: if u were one of my pokerbuddies i'd prlly say 10% luck 90% skill now :D
[10:43] <serpico> hi
[10:43] <dibblego> is there a way to set sounds to Autodetect without using gnome-sound-propreties since it locks (8.04)
[10:43] <chillitom> anyone know how to specify search domains in NetworkManager?  I have "Automatic (DHCP) Addresses Only" selected but any search domains I add seem to be ignored
[10:43] <faileas> loomsen: i got it working on debian before, so i know the x11 config. I got an atheros PCI card to replace the USB one i had before (it only has one USB port). I'm a stong believer in beating things till they work ;)
[10:44] <loomsen> faileas: but i enjoy toyin around too, its fun, you get to know your system pretty well and it only costs time
[10:44] <loomsen> faileas: #2
[10:44] <loomsen> ^^
[10:44] <faileas> loomsen: true, but it also means, if you document it, its faster the next time
[10:44] <Shay26> Hello , i have laptop with 64 cpu , i would like to know what is the diffrent between Ubuntu 9.04 Desktop edition to Netbook remix edition  and which version will be best for my laptop ?
[10:44] <loomsen> faileas: your card is blacklisted in jaunty tho, so digg there first
[10:44] <screamsayonara> how do i tell if my computer is 32 or 64 bit?
[10:44] <siganderson> how do I open and edit .fla (flash) files?
[10:45] <faileas> loomsen: it works perfectly
[10:45] <zaggynl> screamsayonara: cat /etc/proc/cpuinfo
[10:45] <liquidmeson> chillitom, i think you have to edit a file from the terminal
[10:45] <Pabix> zaggynl, remove /etc
[10:45] <Pabix> just /proc/cpuinfo
[10:45] <zaggynl> err cat /proc/cpuinfo
[10:45] <loomsen> faileas: yep, very true, and well, i dont install testing/experimental releases to my notebook anymore
[10:46] <faileas> loomsen: its not my primary box. Its... got a big high res screen
[10:46] <loomsen> faileas: which was quite some evolution
[10:46] <faileas> and not much else ;)
[10:46] <chillitom> liquidmeson, if i edit resolv.conf then the search domains get overridden/removed when DHCP runs
[10:46] <loomsen> i c ^^
[10:46] <screamsayonara> is this it? clflush size	: 64
[10:46] <screamsayonara> thats the only 32 or 64 i can see
[10:46] <sidewalk> I have a Realtek ALC 260 which doesn't play any sounds since my upgrade to Jaunty yesterday. It seems to be working fine, but no sounds come out of the speaker(s) or headphone(s). Does anyone know what's wrong? :P
[10:47] <loomsen> unmute
[10:47] <loomsen> sidewalk: in jaunty pulse is configured as per user session which means for me it starts up muted
[10:48] <liquidmeson> chillitom, like physicaly removed or ignored
[10:48] <faileas> loomsen: http://pastebin.com/m15cca4e9 try not to laugh ;p
[10:48] <chillitom> removed
[10:48] <liquidmeson> chillitom, set it to read only
[10:48] <liquidmeson> chmod 444
[10:48] <liquidmeson> not sure if that will work thou
[10:49] <liquidmeson> i've only ever done it with static
[10:49] <loomsen> faileas: nice quest :)
[10:49] <chillitom> liquidmeson, might have to if worst comes to the worst but that seems like a hack.. I'd prefer to know why NetworkManagers search domains are ignored.
[10:49] <slim|> jaunty came out
[10:49] <slim|> faster
[10:49] <BadEagle> slim| no ****
[10:50] <faileas> loomsen: i already had win2k working, but i prefer having something... more modern
[10:50] <liquidmeson> koala is where its at
[10:50] <loomsen> lol
[10:50] <ienorand> How do I configure services-admin from command line?
[10:50] <B|ackPanther> Iss there a way to make ubuntu give a hint which usernames are available in the machine ?
[10:50] <Kartagis> B|ackPanther, cat
[10:50] <kdask> could anyone please tell me how to force i386 on a 64 bit system?
[10:50] <liquidmeson> no can do
[10:51] <B|ackPanther> Sorry,before login
[10:51] <faileas> loomsen: by contrast http://pastebin.com/m3d315959 is my usual
[10:51] <loomsen> faileas: humm, debootstrap could be a nice option 2--- my actual project: setting up an OS on my extern hdd which is attached to our router
[10:51] <Kartagis> B|ackPanther, KDE does that
[10:51] <finn> kdask, just install off the i386 iso
[10:51] <B|ackPanther> I haven't logged in on my ubuntu on my other machine in a long time and i have forgotten my username
[10:51] <liquidmeson> kdask every single program in x64 is writen for only x64
[10:52] <gypsymauro> I've made a mess with chown, someone can please send me the ls -la of /var and /var/lib?
[10:52] <mib_h9lz4x> has anyone been able to run an ERP on Ubuntu 8.10 successfully eg OPenErp and Openbravo
[10:52] <liquidmeson> kdask i would copy all your stuff some where and re install
[10:52] <loomsen> faileas: lenovos are known to be solid, right?
[10:52] <Kartagis> B|ackPanther, boot off a livecd and use grep home /etc/passwd
[10:52] <manpoole> http://pastebin.com/m7584c112 would this work as a bootlist the last one is the one i edited
[10:52] <B|ackPanther> If i can remember the username i will be able to get the password after a few tries
[10:52] <dazjorz> Hi all
[10:52] <liquidmeson> i love my thinkpad
[10:52] <adam7> kdask: what are you trying to install?
[10:52] <Kai_wp> I'm trying to reintstall GRUB on my installation of installation of the latest release candidate of Ubuntu Jaunty Jackelope 9.04. I installed the latest Windows 7 BETA on another partition and I can no longer get into my Ubuntu installation. But when I run "root (hd0,0)" in the terminal to install GRUB I get "Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition".
[10:52] <kdask> why? i have installed 64 bit OS on my system because I have a 64 bit processor
[10:52] <B|ackPanther> Kartagis,thank you
[10:53] <Kartagis> no problem B|ackPanther
[10:53] <Kai_wp> As far as I know Ubuntu should be on the first partition and I only have one HD in my PC at the moment.
[10:53] <Kai_wp> (I installed Ubuntu first)
[10:53] <kdask> i am trying to install flash player
[10:53] <adam7> kdask: on which version of Ubuntu?
[10:53] <kdask> 9.04
[10:53] <dazjorz> I have some -dbg packages installed, such as kdelibs5-dbg and libqt4-dbg, but how do I make sure the debugging versions of the libraries are used?   My cd drive burns cd's in windows so i know it works.   brasero says it finished successfully, but nothing has been written to the cd.  Ive tried .ISO, .MP3 audio cd, and a data cd.  anyone know whats up?
[10:55] <adam7> kdask: go to http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/ in Firefox -- you'll see the additional plugins are needed bar pop down, click install missing plugins, and you should be set
[10:55] <liquidmeson> copermine!
[10:55] <CaneToad> switch10: works great for me, which version of ubuntu?
[10:55] <switch10> 8.10
[10:56] <kdask> it says no suitable plugins were found
[10:56] <CaneToad> I had 8.10 until this morning when I upgraded to 9.04, but 8.10 burning worked great
[10:56] <liquidmeson> kdask, try going to pandora.com
[10:56] <Kai_wp> Does anyone have any idea about my problem? :P
[10:56] <kdask> liquidmeson: ive tried going to sites that require flash already
[10:57] <Kartagis> I have a problem qith brasero. even if I try to add 60mb to a disk, it says unsufficient space. what can I do?
[10:57] <Kartagis> disk being CD
[10:57] <loomsen> Kai_wp: other way round
[10:57] <kdask> how do i force i386 architecteture on a 64 bit system?
[10:57] <adam7> kdask: there is a 64 bit flash plugin, you *don't* need to force i386
[10:58] <loomsen> Kai_wp: win first, then linux
[10:58] <liquidmeson> you have to get a flash program for x64,... dito
[10:58] <adam7> kdask: and even if you did, it wouldn't work, because firefox is x64
[10:58] <faileas> liquidmeson: yeah, coppermine. I actually have a katmai box on my network ;p
[10:58] <kdask> i tried that adam, you mean the alpha one right? that doesn't work
[10:58] <adam7> kdask: do this: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[10:58] <liquidmeson> in windows you can cheat and get x32 on x64 but not in linux
[10:59] <Kai_wp> loomsen: Anything I can do now though? To get Ubuntu working again? I simply want to get Ubuntu's boot time.
[10:59] <adam7> liquidmeson: it's possible
[10:59] <mrwes> Did I dream Jaunty was released yesterday? heh
[10:59] <liquidmeson> kdask, open synaptic from system administration
[10:59] <biNdle> hello. i need help plz
[10:59] <adam7> liquidmeson: you just have to install 32bit versions of everything
[10:59] <Spanglegluppet> hey, i've just updated to jaunty and my screen resolution is all messed up. my laptop (acer aspire 5610) should have a resolution of 1280x800, but it thinks it's 1024x768, only taking up the middle of the screen and leaving two black bars at the side. any suggestions?
[10:59] <faileas> mrwes: pinch yourself ;)
[10:59] <switch10> really? you cant install 32 bit linux on a 64 bit system?
[10:59] <LurkersA> liquidmeson: You -can- force 32bit on 64. There is a command, I'll dig it out if you want
[10:59] <liquidmeson> kdask, search for flash plugins
[10:59] <mrwes> heh...
[10:59] <loomsen> Kai_wp: boot into live, then install mbr again
[10:59] <adam7> switch10: you can
[11:00] <liquidmeson> kdask flashplugin
[11:00] <faileas> Spanglegluppet: try editing the xorg.con file manually i suppose
[11:00] <adam7> LurkersA: it won't help, they need 64bit flash...
[11:00] <Spanglegluppet> faileas: what exactly would i have to edit?
[11:00] <liquidmeson> adam7, i know
[11:00] <ienorand> How do I configure services-admin from command line? I've put myself in somewhat of a hassle.
[11:00] <recon69> Spanglegluppet did you try change display size in system preferences?
[11:00] <liquidmeson> adam7 there is a x64 bit one in the repo if your on a x64 system
[11:00] <adam7> liquidmeson: yeah, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[11:00] <LurkersA> adam7: In Feisty 64 I forced the 32bit flash onto it, and that worked fine. But I agree with the others here that they should use the 64bit build before attempting that
[11:01] <Spanglegluppet> recon69: yeah, there are only three choices, 1024x768 is the biggest
[11:01] <adam7> LurkersA: but you have to use nspluginwrapper and stuff, don't you?
[11:01] <adam7> it's messy
[11:01] <LurkersA> adam7: no
[11:01] <recon69> Spanglegluppet: are your restricted video drivers enabled ?
[11:01] <liquidmeson> adam, yes if at all posible look for x64
[11:01] <Spanglegluppet> recon69: how do i check?
[11:01] <loomsen> guys
[11:01] <liquidmeson> linux has progress pretty far as to say every has a x64 bit version
[11:02] <loomsen> http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=274073
[11:02] <biNdle> ok here goes: a month back, i deleted windows by mistake. then i loaded on ubuntu. now, i have vista and i want to load it on (JUST VISTA). however, when i try, it doesnt work, because it says it needs an ntfs partition (which i dont have). i also tried the GPart live cd, and for some reason it failed to work. ANY SUGGESTIONS?
[11:02] <recon69> Spanglegluppet: system->admin->hardware
[11:02] <loomsen> just posted that yesterday
[11:02] <faileas> biNdle: you could try wiping the drive first
[11:02] <Spanglegluppet> recon69: just says "no proprietary drivers are in use on this system"
[11:03] <liquidmeson> biNdle, if you want only vista :*( there should be a delete option from the dvd to whip the disk
[11:03] <LurkersA> adam7: It's a dpkg cammand, Do you want it?
[11:03] <recon69> Spanglegluppet: ok, you need to work out what drivers you need for your video card and install them from synaptic
[11:03] <adam7> LurkersA: nope
[11:03] <biNdle> faileas: so do what i did to windows and delete everything\
[11:03] <adam7> LurkersA: there's a flash plugin for x64 so we don't need it
[11:03] <LurkersA> adam7: Ok
[11:03] <adam7> LurkersA: and besides, the person left the channel...
[11:04] <LurkersA> adam7: Fair enough
[11:04] <loomsen> biNdle: get into your bios, chose your cdrom as first boot device, save exit and BOOM
[11:04] <faileas> biNdle: yup. I tend to do that when i want to totally change over OSes, just in case
[11:04] <biNdle> ok
[11:04]  * faileas uses DBAN for that
[11:04] <adam7> biNdle: Windows is funny -- you'll probably have to install it over Ubuntu (make sure to make the partition small enough) and then install Ubuntu again
[11:04] <henux> hello. i intend to install an ftp server and a subversion version control repository with a remote access outside to my server machine. do i need to do some extra setting up in Ubuntu 8.1 other thann to start the proftpd server and svnserve server daemons to allow remote access? do i need to edit /etc/hosts.allow or something other file?
[11:05] <loomsen> adam7: wrong
[11:05] <biNdle> adam, i only want vista
[11:05] <Spanglegluppet> sorry my internet dropped out, did anyone reply to me?
[11:05] <loomsen> biNdle: and you have an install disc?
[11:05] <biNdle> loomsen: bios?
[11:05] <biNdle> yes
[11:06] <biNdle> i do
[11:06] <bazhang> biNdle, how does this relate to ubuntu
[11:06] <recon69> Spanglegluppet: ok, you need to work out what drivers you need for your video card and install them from synaptic
[11:06] <henux> anyone?
[11:06] <biNdle> its what i have now
[11:06] <liquidmeson> henux, can you see the ftp server from and outside browser
[11:06] <Kartagis> I have a problem qith brasero. even if I try to add 60mb to a disk, it says unsufficient space. what can I do?
[11:06] <biNdle> i want it no more
[11:06] <loomsen> biNdle: then just do what i wrote, or hit F12 during memtest
[11:06] <ienorand> Could someone paste their "service --status-all" Please.
[11:06] <kinja-sheep> The problem is often found between the keyboard and the chair. ;o
[11:06] <henux> liquidmeson: yes i can see it in localhost
[11:06] <loomsen> at least iÄm able to chose then
[11:06] <mrwes> henux, is the server behind a router? If so, you'll need to forward the port
[11:06] <bazhang> biNdle, then remove the partition with ubuntu on it and install your OS of choice
[11:06] <Spanglegluppet> recon69: thanks, is there any easy way to do that apart from just googling?
[11:06] <kinja-sheep> biNdle: You then want #windows if you're interested in wiping out Ubuntu & Install Vista.
[11:07] <henux> mrwes: port forwarding is taken care of
[11:07] <liquidmeson> henux, but can you see it from another pc?
[11:07] <henux> liquidmeson: i havent yet tested it, i was just asking in advance
[11:07] <recon69> Spanglegluppet: not really, asking here, someone might know
[11:07] <mrwes> henux, k -- might look into DenyHosts
[11:07] <henux> mrwes: okay
[11:07] <henux> thanks for your help
[11:07] <liquidmeson> you might need it in allow hosts :p
[11:07] <Spanglegluppet> recon69: okay, well it's an acer aspire 5610, if anyone knows
[11:08] <henux> i will be back later
[11:08] <mrwes> hexu is this a public FTP or just to give you access from the outside world?
[11:08] <CaneToad> Is DVD playback under jaunty known to work?
[11:08] <adam7> !dvd | CaneToad
[11:08] <henux> mrwes: this ftp server is intended to host few ftp user accounts
[11:08] <liquidmeson> CaneToad, add /remove VLC, plays dvds great
[11:08] <henux> mrwes: i am doing this for someone else
[11:09] <Aperculum> why is it that I can't use super-key as modifier for keybinds in gnome?
[11:09] <henux> in any case, i need to go
[11:09] <mrwes> henux, ahh...just wondering if ssh and/or SCP/Winscp might be a better and more secure option
[11:09] <henux> thanks for your help again
[11:09] <logik-bomb_> ho do you guys keep evolution running on the tray?
[11:09] <liquidmeson> Aperculum: you can only use it once
[11:09] <slytherin> CaneToad: it works for me in all players, but better experience in mplayer/VLC than in totem
[11:09] <henux> mrwes: yes i agree but this other person is a dumb idiot and he wants ftp
[11:09] <mrwes> logik-bomb_, you can use Alltray
[11:09] <adam7> acantha: you need to change the keyboard layout
[11:09] <mrwes> henux, heh...ok :)
[11:09] <LurkersA> CaneToad: Yes it does. You can either install VLC from the repos, or add the medibuntu repo and install 'libdvdcss2' and DVD playback will work all round.
[11:09] <Aperculum> liquidmeson: I thought it was a modifier key like alt and ctrl
[11:09] <adam7> Aperculum: you need to change the keyboard layout
[11:09] <henux> mrwes :)
[11:10] <mrwes> henux Winscp is pretty damn easy
[11:10] <liquidmeson> aperculum,.. its limited
[11:10] <Aperculum> why is that
[11:10] <binarymutant> anyone know what application includes this binary: mzscheme3m ? I'm trying to compile fluxus but having difficulty finding mzscheme3m
[11:10] <liquidmeson> Aperculum: no idea
[11:10] <logik-bomb_> mrwes,  thanks
[11:10] <loomsen> logik-bomb_: i'd use a simple script...
[11:10] <adam7> Aperculum: system -> prefs -> keyboard
[11:10] <recon69> anyone know the restricted driver for a Intel GMA 950 video card
[11:11] <Guest52855> did ubuntu 9.04 release?
[11:11] <Aperculum> adam7: I know how to change the layout but that doesn't make sense
[11:11] <mrwes> heh...he's gone
[11:11] <adam7> Aperculum: then go to layouts and try changing it to 105 key -- that's what I have and my windows key works like a shift/ctrl key
[11:11] <mrwes> alltray evolution --component=mail
[11:11] <loomsen> intel
[11:11] <Aperculum> hmm
[11:11] <adam7> Aperculum: why not?
[11:11] <bazhang> binarymutant, plt-scheme
[11:11] <loomsen> @ recon69
[11:11] <Aperculum> oh that
[11:11] <liquidmeson> binarymutant,... sudo aptitude
[11:11] <Aperculum> adam7: sorry, I was thinking of different layout
[11:11] <LurkersA> Guest52855: Yes
[11:11] <Aperculum> adam7: I'll try
[11:11] <mrwes> loomsen, what would that script look like?
[11:11] <adam7> Aperculum: ah, np
[11:11] <liquidmeson> binarymutant "/mzscheme
[11:11] <Guest52855> anyone here?
[11:12] <LurkersA> Guest52855: Yes
[11:12] <mrwes> Guest52855, only 1500 ppl
[11:12] <liquidmeson> 3am going strong
[11:12] <mrwes> no updates on release day +1...heh?
[11:12] <liquidmeson> almost never
[11:12] <mrwes> yah I know
[11:13] <loomsen> mrwes: depending on your erm, level of riskaversion^^
[11:13] <binarymutant> bazhang, liquidmeson I have plt-scheme but it only has mzscheme but this program I'm compiling is looking for mzscheme3m :/
[11:13] <liquidmeson> canonicals one day of relaz
[11:13] <mrwes> loomsen, oh? is that even a word? :)
[11:13] <liquidmeson> search launch pad for a pa
[11:14] <Boohbah> liquidmeson: i expect they're reading all the reviews
[11:14] <loomsen> mrwes: i love risk, so i just configured my nick n password into a curl? command
[11:14] <jpds> liquidmeson: No, that was yesterday at the awesome release party \o/
[11:14] <CaneToad> liquidmeson/slytherinLurkersA, agree vlc works for some DVDs, others get vlc: /build/buildd/libdvdnav-4.1.3/src/vm/vm.c:1485: process_command: Assertion `0' failed.
[11:14] <liquidmeson> wish i was there
[11:14] <liquidmeson> @! vlc dosen't play something
[11:14] <LurkersA> CaneToad: Add the Medibuntu Repository, then 'apt-get install libdvdcss2'
[11:14] <liquidmeson> what is the world coming to
[11:14] <loomsen> mrwes: dont remember exactly, however it was very simple, just fetched headers or only number of new mails if you prefer
[11:15] <amitav> how can i login as root using livecd
[11:15] <amitav> ?
[11:15] <loomsen> up 2 u actually ^^
[11:15] <adam7> amitav: use sudo -- you can't log in as root
[11:15] <loomsen> sudo su -
[11:15] <liquidmeson> sudo bash
[11:15] <mrwes> loomsen, I was just wondering, anyhow alltray works for me
[11:15] <amitav> ok
[11:15] <jpds> loomsen, liquidmeson, amitav: sudo -i
[11:15] <amitav> thank you
[11:16] <firsm> Mmh, the screen on my second monitor keeps bouncing; looks like compoiz is still buggy as hell, i can't believe something like that is enabled by default
[11:16] <loomsen> jpds:  in this case, as its a live cd, it doesnt matter
[11:16] <liquidmeson> compiz isn't on by default?
[11:16] <loomsen> jpds: BUT sudo -i will drop you as root in /home/user
[11:16] <jpds> loomsen: Good practices. ;)
[11:16] <firsm> liquidmeson: it is, I just said I can't believe some buggy shit like set is on by default
[11:17] <bazhang> firsm, no cursing please
[11:17] <jpds> loomsen: No.
[11:17] <jpds> loomsen: http://paste.ubuntu.com/157092/
[11:18] <jpds> loomsen: 'sudo -s' will do that, as it maintains the user's environment variables.
[11:18] <mrwes> So ...what's the count on "Should I updgrde to Jaunty?"
[11:18] <mrwes> heh
[11:18] <error404notfound> for filesystem large as 70G and 400G, containing different kinds of file from 500K textfiles to 10-20G files, which filesystem is better? xfs? ext3? ext4?
[11:18] <loomsen> mrwes: i'm pretty disapponted tbh
[11:19] <loomsen> mrwes: ← just waiting for fedoras stable to be released
[11:19] <jpds> mrwes: Your choice really. I love it personally.
[11:19] <DerStillePete> is there a repo for a jaunty kernel with CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=n ?
[11:19] <lexar> if you like redhat, don;t like fedora, use CentOS
[11:19] <mrwes> This guy last night said he 'ran' update manger, and the rebooted, but was still running Intrepid -- I said did you click on the 'New Distribution" available button; he said no
[11:19] <mrwes> sigh...
[11:19] <slytherin> loomsen: disappointed in what way?
[11:20] <mrwes> jpds, I was joking silly -- of course I upgraded -- weeks ago
[11:20] <loomsen> slytherin: not bleeding enough, edge is 2 soft
[11:20] <mrwes> Beta in a VB, then hard install of the RC
[11:20] <lexar> I will install Jaunty today afternoon, hopefully with no errors from last night
[11:20] <jpds> loomsen: Err, yes. We froze most of the archive a few months ago.
[11:21] <adam7> loomsen: there are choices: if you want something that has bleeding edge, you can... :)
[11:21] <loomsen> adam7: i know
[11:21] <loomsen> and i will
[11:21] <loomsen> :)
[11:21] <slytherin> loomsen: you can not keep adding new versions of packages to a distribution, right? You have to stop somewhere and stabilize it.
[11:21] <loomsen> i do actually
[11:21] <FloodBot2> loomsen: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:22] <chiiiiiz> Hi!!
[11:22] <christian_> chiiiiiz: Hi :)
[11:22] <jpds> !latest
[11:22] <loomsen> slytherin: i dont want to convince anybody of anything, it just didnt work nice for me and my compal...
[11:22] <slytherin> loomsen: if you want bleeding edge you can use Debian unstable, but then you are on your own if it eats up your data.
[11:22] <chiiiiiz> I have a problem with DBus. I can see the PC on my local network, but I can not access the shares
[11:23] <error404notfound> any suggestions?
[11:23] <slytherin> chiiiiiz: what does accessing shares have to do with dbus?
[11:23] <chiiiiiz> The message says: unable to display "smb://server/": no application is installed to open this kind of file
[11:23] <loomsen> slytherin: calm down, i know what i can have if i want, and i even have more than one os installed
[11:23] <JC_Denton_> I have 904 and it seems i keep having to manually request an ip everytime the lease runs out on two interfaces. Running firestarter to share the internet connection
[11:23] <loomsen> slytherin: so you can stop worrying bout me ;)
[11:23] <chiiiiiz> slytherin: I do not know, I only had a erreor message box with this in it: DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)
[11:24] <risco> need help, in my ubuntu appear "Failed to check for installed and available applications
[11:24] <risco> This is a major failure of your software management system. Please check for broken packages with synaptic, check the file permissions and correctness of the file '/etc/apt/sources.list' and reload the software information with: 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get install -f'". so what i suppose to do to fix it?
[11:24] <chiiiiiz> maybe it is only 2 different things that happened in the same time?
[11:24] <natschil> how is the state of fglrx in 9.04?
[11:24] <Maximo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions
[11:24] <Maximo> !help
[11:25] <Crayboff> I customized my desktop and such with avant and deleting the toolbars, but now i'm getting tired of it. How do I revert it back to default desktop and save a back up of what i've already done incase i want to go back?
[11:25] <lexar> natschil: I am asking the same, will install today
[11:25] <chiiiiiz> I am working under 8.10, and this used to work until a few days ago!!
[11:25] <lexar> i downloaded ati 9.4 from atis site
[11:25] <slytherin> chiiiiiz: surprising, assuming that you are using nautilus to browse, do you have packages samba-common and smbclient installed?
[11:26] <chiiiiiz> slytherin: I do indeed
[11:26] <loomsen> ALL: i dont remember who doubted risk aversion to be a word earlier, however: http://paste.ubuntu.com/157107/
[11:26] <lexar> is it better to install fglrx from repo, or from ati's site?
[11:27] <slytherin> chiiiiiz: looks like some race condition
[11:27] <adam7> lexar: repo
[11:27] <DerStillePete> is there a repo for a jaunty kernel image with CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=n ?
[11:27] <christian_> Can anyone recommend a good learning resource for open source development? (i know the programming bit. what i need is information on versioning, best practices etc.)
[11:27] <chiiiiiz> some what? sorry, I am french...
[11:28] <xcore> chiiiiz,  i m french , means to me '  je suis con'
[11:28] <loomsen> DerStillePete: get the sources and build it yourself if you know what you want
[11:28] <chiiiiiz> nice, thanks
[11:28] <screamsayonara> i just installed a program which was a .deb and its not working, how do i uninstall it?
[11:28] <Anarkist> Add/Remove Programs
[11:28] <DerStillePete> loomsen: i was trying to avoid that ;-)
[11:28] <xae8koo> Is there any way to pair ubuntu with sony ericsson phones?
[11:28] <loomsen> DerStillePete: doesnt hurt, you will see
[11:28] <slytherin> screamsayonara: if you are on jaunty, use computer janitor program in system menu
[11:28] <screamsayonara> im on intrepid
[11:28] <slytherin> xae8koo: pair in what way?
[11:29] <lexar> adam7: thank you
[11:29] <Boohbah> slytherin: bluetooth
[11:29] <slytherin> screamsayonara: on command like 'sudo dpkg -r programname'
[11:29] <xcore> sorry chiiz
[11:29] <loomsen> xae8koo: usb
[11:29] <Boohbah> xae8koo: i heard jaunty has a new bluetooth wizard
[11:29] <natschil> lexar: I tried to upgrade, but it tells me 3d acceleration isn't available in jaunty for my x1250 ati card (integrated), so I was wondering whether that was just jockey complaining, or whether it is actually impossible to get things like jaunty working with the new kernel and xserver
[11:29] <lexar> which version of fglrx is in Jaunty?
[11:29] <DerStillePete> loomsen: well, actually i am already compiling, but it takes hours...
[11:29] <loomsen> xae8koo: BT worked for me out of the box too
[11:29] <adam7> natschil: the ATI 9.4 driver removed support for some older ATI cards
[11:29] <Boohbah> loomsen: 'pairing' means bluetooth
[11:29] <adam7> lexar: 9.4
[11:29] <xae8koo> loomsen: I can't get it to pair:(
[11:30] <screamsayonara> thanks slytherin
[11:30] <slytherin> xae8koo: what is the problem you are getting?
[11:30] <loomsen> xae8koo: how come? both visible?
[11:30] <drkimble> I just installed the new Ubuntu, nice, thanks
[11:30] <loomsen> xae8koo: worked seemless here
[11:30] <loomsen> *seam
[11:31] <Kilo> Can someone help me? My computer hang on restart when i success in install
[11:31] <xae8koo> loomsen: yes
[11:31] <drkimble> Kilo, make sure its booting off hardrive
[11:31] <loomsen> Kilo: when exaxctly? after grub? if so, try disabling acpi
[11:31] <natschil> adam7: the x1250 isn't really an "older" card, its on a laptop I bought last summer....http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/904 doesn't mention anything about ati
[11:32] <ubububub> Hi, i have installed ubuntu netbook remix RC1 some days ago, how can i update to the newest version?
[11:32] <mfc_coder> ubububub: what did you install it on?
[11:32] <natschil> adam7: in the worst case scenario I might need to downgrade kernel and xserver
[11:32] <loomsen> ubububub: update-manager -d
[11:32] <ubububub> mfc_coder: Acer Inspire one
[11:32] <xae8koo> I need to backup my files!
[11:33] <adam7> natschil: there should be an oss driver that works
[11:33] <mfc_coder> cool, downloading the release remix right now (MSI Wind U100)
[11:33] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[11:33] <adam7> natschil: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_r500_legacy&num=1
[11:33] <loomsen> xae8koo: vodafone has a service to store them online in germany
[11:33] <natschil> adma7: the only problem is that oss 'ati' driver == very slow and no 3d acceleration (i.e. compiz won't work)
[11:34] <DarkHaker> Helloy
[11:34] <DarkHaker> åñòü êòî æèâîé?
[11:34] <loomsen> xae8koo: maybe your provider has sth similar?
[11:34] <raddy> Is it possible to transfer a Windows install of ubuntu to real drive?
[11:34] <xae8koo> loomsen: Are you suggesting I move to germany to backup my phone?:P
[11:34] <DarkHaker> Ðóñêèå òóò åñòü?
[11:34] <xae8koo> I only get: "Pairing with crazy failed
[11:34] <bazhang> !ru | DarkHaker
[11:34] <slytherin> xae8koo: you are not telling us the error you are getting. How are we supposed to help you?
[11:34] <loomsen> xae8koo: if you wanna go the long way ^^ you could as well visit the homepage of your provider
[11:35] <drkimble> raddy:  why would you want to do that, I expect the answer is no anyway
[11:35] <DarkHaker> helloy pepl
[11:35] <xae8koo> Symmetria: The error is: "Pairing with crazy failed"
[11:35] <slytherin> xae8koo: You are initiating pairing form PC, right?
[11:35] <xae8koo> slytherin: Yes
[11:36] <raddy> drkimble : so that i don't need to burn a cd
[11:36] <whattey> how do i make dmesg paste stuff into a file?
[11:36] <slytherin> xae8koo: is your phone visible?
[11:36] <xae8koo> yes
[11:36] <loomsen> xae8koo: both visivle and accessible? send the request only from one of the devices
[11:36] <xae8koo> It's name is "crazy"
[11:36] <slytherin> xae8koo: open system -> preferences -> bluetooth, make sure that your adapter is visible and remove any old pairing you might have done
[11:37] <loomsen> xae8koo: also default in my K800 was always ask
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[11:37] <loomsen> xae8koo: so they didnt pair by default
[11:37] <natschil> adam7: that link you gave me doesn't mention the x1200 family of cards
[11:37] <sgc> hola
[11:37] <sgc> hello
[11:37] <sgc> everybody
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> i see +1 is dead
[11:37] <slytherin> xae8koo: and did you enter the 4 digit pin number on your phone.
[11:37] <loomsen> lol
[11:37] <natschil> adam7: so I think I'll just upgrade, and see how things go
[11:38] <loomsen> natschil: hf
[11:38] <xae8koo> slytherin: I didn't get to enter a pin on either side
[11:38] <zeusluvin> i installed ubuntu on a vm, everything works fine but firefox is not opening and i can't seem to save an installed application xchat. when i reboot i can't find the installed application on the menu and i dont seem to be able to re-install it again
[11:38] <zeusluvin> can anybody help?
[11:38] <loomsen> o.O
[11:39] <THCLOKI> hi
[11:39] <slytherin> xae8koo: that is surprising. the way it works now is that the PC client generates a pin which you have to enter on phone.
[11:39] <MistrJ> hi can someone help me with my read only file system ?
[11:39] <slytherin> xae8koo: did you try pairing from phone side?
[11:39] <natschil> zeusluvin: virtualbox?