[01:52] <saizai> I've got a (hopefully?) basic question that I've been bashing my head on. I'm trying to set pureftpd (Feisty package) to run with puredb. I have the PureDB file in /etc/pure-ftpd/conf and no other auth confs. And it just ignores it and uses unix auth anyway. The same happens if I start manually with -l puredb:/etc/pure-ftpd/pureftpd.pdb. Any ideas how to fix this?
[01:56] <__osh__> !es
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[02:05] <marseillai> hi
[02:06] <marseillai> i have a question about adept on gutsy! i'm installing a new computer and i remember i've seen one time that adept can do an apt-get autoclean but i don't find where to manage this feature. Does anyone remember that?
[02:23] <wers> how do I disable the middle click internet search for konqueror?
[02:23] <wers> it just annoys me because I often accidentally middle click using my touch pad
[02:25] <mrp_> mornin
[02:25] <Jucato> wers: Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Web Behavior -> Middle click opens URL in selection
[02:26] <wers> thanks dude
[02:27] <wers> my middle click now works as the scrolll in some windows apps
[02:27] <Jucato> middle click = paste in Linux ftw! :)
[02:27] <Jucato> btw, you can still middle-click to open URL in selection on an empty space in the tab bar even if you turn that off
[02:28] <alain> hello
[02:28] <wers> okay.. got it
[02:28] <wers> thanks jucatss
[02:29] <Jucato> hehe you're welcome wers(daluv)
[02:29] <ardchoille> Jucato: Thanks, I never knew you could do that.
[02:29] <Jucato> :)
[02:29] <Jucato> you can also double click on the tab area to open a new tab :)
[02:29] <ardchoille> Wow, I have to write these down
[02:30] <wers> wow... KDEnclopedia=Jucatskee
[02:30] <Jucato> heheh :)
[02:30] <ardchoille> I just switched from firefox to konqueror
[02:30] <Jucato> lol!
[02:30] <wers> hahahaha
[02:30] <wers> I love bangus!
[02:30] <wers> hahaha
[02:31] <Jucato> that's what I ate yesterday....
[02:31] <Jucato> anyway.. hehehe
[02:31] <marseillai> no one has an idea for my question about adept and apt-get clean ?
[02:32] <Jucato> marseillai: not sure about "autoclean", but apt runs clean automatically on a certain schedule
[02:33] <Jucato> afaik
[02:33] <ardchoille> I hear that konqueror is no longer going to be the default fm in kde 4.0
[02:33] <marseillai> Jucato: in fact afaik you're wrong on that point
[02:33] <Jucato> ardchoille: not the default file manager. but still the default web browser
[02:33] <ardchoille> Jucato: Ah, ok
[02:33] <Jucato> marseillai: perhaps... that's just what I was told before. never saw it happen :)
[02:34] <Jucato> marseillai: /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10periodic
[02:35] <Jucato> APT::Periodic::AutocleanInterval (although mine's disabled I guess...)
[02:36] <marseillai> Jucato: APT::Periodic::AutocleanInterval "0"; so now it's never but i know there is a way to ask adept to change this value and i don't find it anymore
[02:37] <Jucato> marseillai: I have never seen that option in Adept Manager or Manage Repositories (software-properties-kde). I've only seen the option when to check for updates
[02:37] <Jucato> marseillai: might want to ask manchicken_ or Riddell about it though
[02:37] <marseillai> yes i'll but i didn't want to disturb on #devel with a user question
[02:38] <Jakoavain> Hi! :)
[02:38] <Jucato> I think it just graduated from being a user question :)
[02:39] <ardchoille> marseillai: It's not there, that's surprising.. I thought it would have an option for that. Oh well, good thing you can always throw "apt-get clean" in a root cronjob :)
[02:40] <Jakoavain> Now it installed the w32codecs.. or so I think, but still watching videos from net, the sound wont work. Then came this another problem.. Sometimes firefox wont even download the page, sometimes like few pics or txt .. Right now it's doing it again.. I press google, or anything else.. "done" and the page is empty.
[02:40] <marseillai> ardchoille: i run apt-get clean in cron.weekly since time now just i want to find where this option is hiding
[02:41] <ardchoille> ok
[02:41] <Jucato> I hate to be told wrong again, but I really can't remember that feature in adept... :(
[02:41] <Jucato> along with a manual menu option to clean the cache...
[02:43] <ardchoille> I guess synaptic has spoiled me
[02:44] <marseillai> manchicken_:  i got a question for you. i've seen (if i well remember it was in feisty) an option in adept_* to change a value in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10periodic and clean apt archive. And now i'm making a fresh install and i would like to find this feature and i can't find it. Could you please tell me i'm not crazy and it exist or it has exist....
[02:45] <marseillai> arfffffffffffffff
[02:45] <marseillai> you may have reason ardchoille
[02:45] <marseillai> may be i've seen that in synaptic
[02:45] <Jucato> :)
[02:45] <Jakoavain> Hmm, so no one knows. Maybe I'll try later, :)
[02:46] <ardchoille> marseillai: There is an option for that in synaptic, yes, I liked that option.
[02:46] <marseillai> noooooooooooo
[02:46] <marseillai> now i'm sure
[02:46] <Jucato> :)
[02:46] <marseillai> i got in my feisty partitin
[02:46] <marseillai> this file : /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/15adept-periodic-update
[02:47] <tzanger> morning
[02:47] <Jucato> yep. they seem to change those files every release :)
[02:47] <Jucato> now it's 10periodic...
[02:47] <marseillai> Jucato: yes but as you can see it's a adept file
[02:47] <marseillai> :)
[02:47] <tzanger> anyone running into mythfrontend crashing X on exit?
[02:47] <Jucato> marseillai: but what are the contents of the file? APT::Periodic?
[02:47] <tzanger> it's almost consistent :-)
[02:48] <marseillai> APT::Periodic::AutocleanInterval "0";
[02:48] <marseillai> Jucato:
[02:48] <Jucato> yep. it's an APT file :)
[02:48] <Jucato> misnamed APT file :)
[02:48] <marseillai> yes but write by adept
[02:48] <Jucato> I don't think so...
[02:48] <Jucato> but manchicken_ would know better
[02:49] <marseillai> yes i'll come back later and ask him i have to lease
[02:49] <ardchoille> Jucato:  http://ardchoille.pastebin.us/39611
[03:06] <infinity__> hi
[03:06] <tzanger> hmm, is there a way to tell KDE to save a window's geometry?  I'm getting a little tired of constantly resizing my kdevelop window every time it starts up
[03:07] <llutz> tzanger: rightclick on window-deco, window-settings
[03:07] <tzanger> llutz: just found that, yes.  thanks
[03:09] <RurouniJones> Bugger me that is awesome
[03:09] <RurouniJones> Talk about teh power (tm)
[03:13] <qmake> hello, hao can i use KPF in a terminal?
[03:16] <hydrogen> ,,,
[03:17] <hydrogen> doo it!
[03:17] <Jucato> one more time...
[03:18] <genii> Jucato: Heh! hi
[03:19] <swanfl> I'm trying to put kubuntu on a very old box. I need to disable automatic ide driver detection (and stick with hte generic IDE driver) because this automatic detection causes a kernel panic, presumably because so many modules get loaded during this time that don't belong and my hardware gets confused
[03:19] <swanfl> that is to say, this happens during the debian-installer
[03:34] <reagleBRKLN> hi, i'm trying to grab email msg content from the marc.info archive. when I use the msgid, there is a redirect
[03:34] <reagleBRKLN> http://marc.info/?i=742dfd06050503151938d6ec8f%20()%20mail%20!%20gmail%20!%20com --302--> http://marc.info/?l=wikipedia-l&m=111515881130026
[03:35] <reagleBRKLN> shouldn't urlopen follow this? "The geturl() method returns the real URL of the page. In some cases, the HTTP server redirects a client to another URL. The urlopen() function handles this transparently, but in some cases the caller needs to know which URL the client was redirected to. " In my case it isn't
[03:35] <reagleBRKLN> oops, sorry, wrong channel
[03:35] <Jucato> ...
[03:37] <saizai> is there some way I can get pure-ftpd to allow read-only access to a directory an ntfs-3g rw mounted drive in Kubuntu Feisty? mount --bind will only mount it as whatever the original is (i.e. root.root 777), and I can't get it to allow symlinks... :/
[03:39] <Jakoavain> By the way, what is whiptail? Because in my processthing it's takin 46% of the process!
[03:40] <jussi01> !info whiptail
[03:40] <ubotu> whiptail: Displays user-friendly dialog boxes from shell scripts. In component main, is important. Version 0.52.2-8ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 34 kB, installed size 92 kB
[03:40] <c1|freaky> a girl dancing for gotta find it ^^
[03:40] <c1|freaky> her
[03:40] <c1|freaky> +you
[03:40] <c1|freaky> nm
[03:40] <c1|freaky> ^^
[03:41] <jussi01> Jakoavain: 46% sounds very high for whiptail...
[03:42] <Jakoavain> ...
[03:43] <swanfl> I'm trying to put kubuntu on a very old box. I need to disable automatic ide driver detection (and stick with the generic IDE driver) because this automatic detection causes a kernel panic, presumably because so many modules get loaded during this time that don't belong and my hardware gets confused
[03:43] <swanfl> that is to say, this happens during the debian-installer
[03:43] <Jakoavain> jussi01: Well, anyideas?
[03:44] <BluesKaj> howdy all
[03:44] <jussi01> Jakoavain: kill it
[03:44] <Jakoavain> Hiw Blue : )
[03:44] <Jakoavain> jussi01: I cant
[03:44] <BluesKaj> need coffee .brb
[03:44] <jussi01> Jakoavain: out of curiosity, in which city are you?
[03:44] <jussi01> Jakoavain: why not?
[03:44] <Jakoavain> Between pori and tampere..  Oh forget it :D
[03:52] <BluesKaj> :)
[03:52] <BluesKaj> this is canada not the uk
[03:53] <jussi01> lol
[03:53] <Jakoavain> South Park, Terrance and Philip? Doesn't say anything :D
[03:54] <BluesKaj> too old to watch that stuff...I don't get it :)
[03:54] <Jakoavain> :D Damn...
[03:54] <Jakoavain> i'll go to play drums :D Or try to play.. cya! :)
[03:55] <BluesKaj> we have the show on tv ...I just don't unnerstand the humour
[03:55] <Jakoavain> Oh! Blueskaj! I got some question for you
[03:55] <swanfl> hello, did anyone see my question?
[03:55] <Jakoavain> Now it installed the w32codecs.. or so I think, but still watching videos from net, the sound wont work. Then came this another problem.. Sometimes firefox wont even download the page, sometimes like few pics or txt .. Right now it's doing it again.. I press google, or anything else.. "done" and the page is empty.
[03:55] <BluesKaj> you a drummer to Jakoavain ?
[03:55] <BluesKaj> too
[03:55] <Jakoavain> Well.. I'm not in a band, or anything like that.. but yes :)
[03:56] <BluesKaj> ahh sounds like a java prob
[03:57] <BluesKaj> cool Jakoavain, keep it up ...drummers are always needed sooner or later
[03:57] <swanfl> hello, did anyone see my question?
[03:57] <jussi01> swanfl: say it again
[03:57] <swanfl> I'm trying to put kubuntu on a very old box. I need to disable automatic ide driver detection (and stick with the generic IDE driver) because this automatic detection causes a kernel panic, presumably because so many modules get loaded during this time that don't belong and my hardware gets confused
[03:57] <swanfl> hello, did anyone see my question?
[03:58] <BluesKaj> Jakoavain, make sure you have java-common and at a minimum j2re1.4
[03:58] <swanfl> sorry about that last one
[03:58] <swanfl> this in regards to debian-installer
[03:58] <BluesKaj> Jakoavain, you can check in adept
[03:58] <Jakoavain> BluesKaj: Yeah, :) There's one band.. Maybe I can join them.. but to the javathing, that was like swedish to me
[03:59] <BluesKaj> swanfl, we saw your Q , but wait til someone who can help shows up..have no idea
[03:59] <pagan0ne> is there any way to get kubuntu to update from a ntp server on a regular basis (1-2x a day?) my hardware clock seems to run down over the course of a week so that by the end of the week im 15+ mins slow....
[04:00] <llutz> pagan0ne: create a cron-job
[04:00] <swanfl> ok, at least say you don't know so I don't feel like i'm being ignored
[04:00] <BluesKaj> Jakoavain, open adept and type , java and check for the 2 mentioned
[04:00] <pagan0ne> llutz: ok give me some help with that, where is a good resource to learn, or what should i do?
[04:01] <llutz> pagan0ne: man crontab
[04:01] <slackern> pagan0ne: rightclick on the clock on your bottom right and check in "Adjust date and time" and in the top of the window there you can select automatic
[04:01] <slackern> pagan0ne: then it'll let you choose servers to update time from.
[04:02] <pagan0ne> slackern: automatic is selected, but it only seems to update when i actually go in and change ntp server, it can go for weeks, and it never seems to update
[04:03] <slackern> pagan0ne: ahh i haven't tried it myself either, just thought it worked
[04:03] <ivanbili> hi guys, i have a problem with my proc partition and i had to boot from my live CD... how do I mount my dev/sda3 device so that I can access its files?
[04:06] <ivanbili>  hi guys, i have a problem with my proc partition and i had to boot from my live CD... how do I mount my dev/sda3 device so that I can access its files?
[04:10] <pagan0ne> ivanbili: in terminal mount /dev/sda3 /your/mount/point/here
[04:15] <swanfl> so when are they gonna fix open office?
[04:15] <wers> I just installed oo.o 2.3.. whenever I start it from kmenu, the loading taskbar item comes out but oo.o does not come out
[04:15] <tzanger> what's wrong with open office?
[04:16] <swanfl> specifically the inability of the form wizard to complete in the oo database
[04:20] <rickey> i am haveing trouble installing ymessenger ,has anyone here installed it?
[04:21] <lduong> fgfdg
[04:21] <Jakoavain> This is so embarrasing but the java wasn't even installed, after all we were drunk when we installed kubuntu. Anyway :D ... Now I'm in the terminal, and it says after "ln -s jre*/bin bin" command that bin isn't a directory
[04:21] <lduong> oh really
 i am haveing trouble installing ymessenger ,has anyone here installed it?
[04:25] <pagan0ne> rickey: i havent installed ymessenger, but why do you want ymessenger over sompthing like kopete?
[04:25] <rickey> because kopete no longer dose yahoo chatrooms
[04:26] <rickey> nor dose gain
[04:26] <pagan0ne> rickey: ok, fiar enough, i never use them, so i never noticed
[04:26] <rickey> and i have much more trouble installing pidgin
[04:27] <pagan0ne> rickey: whats the trouble your running into trying to install ymessenger?
[04:28] <rickey> wen i go to  konsole to enter the stuff ,it say no file
[04:28] <rickey> but i have it in rickey/home
[04:28] <pagan0ne> ok, you have downloaded the ymessenger package, what type of package?
[04:29] <pagan0ne> apt, tar, rpm. etc?
[04:29] <rickey> file:///home/rickey/ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386
[04:29] <rickey> tar
[04:29] <wers> Service '/usr/share/applications/ooo-writer.desktop' is malformatted.
[04:29] <wesley> hello can somebody help me? i am trying to install kbfx on 64 bit. But get see that it dont find kde3 headers   http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/619/schermafdruk36dx6.jpg
[04:29] <wers> what do I do to correct the link to oo.o?
[04:30] <pagan0ne> rickey: ok so if you       cd /home/rickey       and then          tar -zxf ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386   it returns file not found?
[04:31] <rickey> yes
[04:31] <pagan0ne> rickey: and your using approptate case (as its case sensitive)?
[04:32] <rickey> yes small case
[04:32] <pagan0ne> rickey: then my suggestion would be to delete it, and redownload the file, but ive never had a issue like that
[04:33] <wesley> where can i find kde3 headers?
[04:33] <BluesKaj> wesley, are you running ubuntu/gnome ?
[04:34] <wesley> no kubuntu
[04:34] <BluesKaj> look in adept
[04:34] <wesley> did i already
[04:34] <wesley> http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/619/schermafdruk36dx6.jpg
[04:35] <Jucato_> wesley: kdelibs4-dev
[04:35] <ivanbili> can someone look at their fstab file and tell me their entry for their proc and main partition? thanks
[04:35] <LjL> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[04:36] <LjL> UUID=c50ae320-b4fd-434e-b81d-3088ae67e6fc /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[04:36] <pagan0ne> rickey: http://us.dl1.yimg.com/download.yahoo.com/dl/unix/ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb   download that
[04:36] <Fivetwentysix> Why is Konqueror so much faster than Firefox?
[04:36] <ivanbili> LjL: do you know why sometimes it says: UUID=xxxxxxx and sometimes just dev/sda3 for example?
[04:36] <z1pp3r> Fivetwentysix, uhm, cus' it can be?
[04:37] <LjL> !uuid | ivanbili
[04:37] <ubotu> ivanbili: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  sudo blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[04:37] <ivanbili> thanks
[04:39] <wesley> adept did'nt find  kdelibs4-dev
[04:39] <Jucato_> !info kdelibs4-dev
[04:39] <ubotu> kdelibs4-dev: development files for the KDE core libraries. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu14.1 (feisty), package size 1315 kB, installed size 7472 kB
[04:41] <BluesKaj> wesley, maybe you need to add or uncomment some deb sources in in you sources.list file
[04:42] <Jucato_> oh yeah, deb-src :)
[04:42] <Jucato_> stupid me :P
[04:42] <deviance> !info libqt3mt
[04:42] <ubotu> Package libqt3mt does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[04:43] <wesley> found it i did not had set the updates good ( clean install tosday )
[04:45] <ksivaji> whether apache is a IBM product like Eclipse .
[04:47] <deviance> !info libqt3-mt
[04:47] <ubotu> libqt3-mt: Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime version), Version 3. In component main, is optional. Version 3:3.3.8really3.3.7-0ubuntu5.1 (feisty), package size 3222 kB, installed size 8916 kB
[04:48] <ubunturos> !qt4
[04:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qt4 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:48] <ubunturos> !libqt-4
[04:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libqt-4 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:50] <rickey> now i have realy messed up
[04:50] <bahr> dang, kubuntu looks much nicer  than ubuntu :o
[04:51] <ibilic> should proc be in a separate partition?
[04:51] <Fivetwentysix> While I'm playing Warcraft III via Wine, i can't click while im holding alt, how do i fix that?
[04:51] <bahr> can somebody tell me, if and how I manage to setup a connection to a vpn which is pptp?
[04:51] <ibilic> before, I think I saw it in a 1024Kb partition
[04:51] <ibilic> now it's in the /proc folder on the main partition
[04:51] <wesley> i get now this CMake Error: Could NOT find msgfmt program : how do i find msgftmt?
[04:52] <rickey> i went into /home to see if i could send ymessenger to adept manger and now wen i try to open system menu  i get a loge in request
[04:53] <rickey> like if i am trying to open adept manger
[04:53] <`AnthraX> hello, i need some help about my internet.As you see i am on internet right now but i can't access web's or download updates.What can i do to fix that?
[04:54] <rickey> sommehow the the follleder in system menu got pointed at adept manger
[04:54] <wesley> CMake Error: Could NOT find msgfmt program . Where do i find it?
[04:54] <rickey>   hoe do i correct this
[04:55] <ivanbili> for my own reference:
 proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
 UUID=c50ae320-b4fd-434e-b81d-3088ae67e6fc /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[04:56] <Fivetwentysix> While I'm playing Warcraft III via Wine, i can't click while im holding alt, how do i fix that?
[04:58] <deviance> In kopete would Ggoogle Talk be Jabber?
[04:58] <ubunturos> deviance: most likely
[05:01] <LjL> wesley:
[05:01] <LjL> ljl@ljlbox:~$ apt-file search msgfmt
[05:01] <LjL> gettext: usr/bin/msgfmt
[05:02] <LjL> !find msgfmt
[05:02] <ubotu> File msgfmt found in gettext, libgettext-ruby-util, xviewg-dev
[05:02] <ubunturos> !tomcat5
[05:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tomcat5 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:02] <ubunturos> !tomcat
[05:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tomcat - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:02] <ubunturos> !apache
[05:02] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[05:02] <Jucato> !botabuse | ubunturos
[05:02] <ubotu> ubunturos: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[05:02] <ubunturos> Jucato: is it one request at at time?
[05:02] <wesley> whats that msgfmt program i cant find it in adept
[05:03] <ubunturos> oops!
[05:03] <`AnthraX> hello jucato
[05:03] <Jucato> ubunturos: if you're not sure of what you're looking for, better PM ubotu
[05:03] <ubunturos> Jucato: umm, I didn't know that.
[05:03] <Jucato> now you do :)
[05:03] <Jucato> hi `AnthraX
[05:04] <deviance> pete :D
[05:04] <`AnthraX> jucato, i'll need some help regarding my internet connection
[05:04] <deviance> Is there any point in using kopete for IRC instead of konversation? Like a reduce processor or soemthing
[05:05] <ibilic> does the order of the statements in a fstab file matter?
[05:05] <Jucato> ibilic: nope afaik
[05:05] <`AnthraX> i can connect to internet throw ether but i can't access any webs
[05:05] <Jucato> deviance: not really... Kopete's IRC features basically is not very good, to put it kindly
[05:05] <deviance> Okay :D
[05:06] <`AnthraX> and* i can't download updates. i got 354 updates to download
[05:06] <Jucato> hm...
[05:06] <wers> Service '/usr/share/applications/ooo-writer.desktop' is malformatted.-Katapult
[05:07] <wers> what is the problem?
[05:07] <wers> I just installed oo.o 2.3
[05:07] <`AnthraX> neither from sudo or from the Update manager
[05:07] <`AnthraX> ah, i just saw that jucato
[05:07] <`AnthraX> :/
[05:07] <Jucato> wers: Alt+Space, Ctrl+C, Configure Katapult, click Ok, try again
[05:09] <`AnthraX> jucato again :P i think is something in my System - Administration - Software Sources
[05:09] <Jucato> hm.. again.. #ubuntu? :)
[05:09] <Jucato> #ubuntu
[05:10] <ibilic> what's the command to find out the UUID of your hard disks again?
[05:10] <Jucato> !uuid | ibilic
[05:10] <ubotu> ibilic: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  sudo blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[05:10] <ibilic> thanks
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> i always do a ls -l /dev/disks/by-uuid :)
[05:11] <`AnthraX> jucato on the Third Party Software i have this: http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-357
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> i think thats the right place
[05:11] <Jucato> `AnthraX: I don't think that should affect things
[05:13] <ibilic> ok, can I have someone's swap partition line from their fstab file? thanks
[05:13] <ibilic> ( I installed a new hard disk and it messed up everything )
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> http://www.xanda.org/index.php?page=performance-tuning-for-linux-swap-partition
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> has examples.
[05:14] <Jucato> UUID=[insert your own here]  none            swap    sw              0       0
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> if you put the new hd in front of the others - the /dev/whatever entrys may of moved. thats why uuid is  a good idea.
[05:14] <Jucato> btw, you can also use the /dev/hdxx style if you want to
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> I did see an artical/forum stating that if you resized a partition the uuid would change..  but have never seen that behavior. Not sure if the guy was confused or not.
[05:15] <Jucato> yep that's true
[05:16] <Jucato> any modification you make to the partition, resize, repartition, delete+recreate
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> Jucato i moved some partitions however and dident see that happen.
[05:16] <Jucato> hm... happened to me :)
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> i may have the fstab using the old style. Its on my laptop. I keep meaning to check.
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> I tend to set mine to mount based on Label. :)
[05:16] <genii> Dr_Willis: I've found that if you resize, the next one's uuid shifts
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> ahh the next ones. Hmm..
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> must be some specific resizing operations that do it.
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> of course I do belive that with the tune2fs tool. you can set the uuid. :)
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> so set them to 0000-000-000-001 ? :) and up?
[05:17] <genii> Would simlify things
[05:18] <genii> *simplify
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> I mount mine based on the disk Label.
[05:18] <maxagaz> hi
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> makes the fstab much more readable.
[05:18] <Jucato> um.. LABEL=
[05:18] <maxagaz> how to set a remote ssh folder ?
[05:18] <Jucato> !ssh
[05:18] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> Yep. I read the Manual/docs and learned to do it by label.
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> remote ssh folder..Hmm..  clarify what you mean.
[05:20] <adenin> hello, could anybody please write here why "system settings"->"network settings" utility always throws message "the default gateway ip address is invalid" when I try to set my wifi pci card manually? ...If I do it by commandline "sudo ip route add default via <IP_ADDRESS>", it works good :(
[05:20] <ibilic> so is it a good idea to add "pri=0" in your options for the swap partition?
[05:20] <wers> hmmm.. it seems that my oo.o is installed in /opt/openoffice.org2.3/.. how do I point my launchers to that location?
[05:20] <maxagaz> Dr_Willis: I need to edit a text file which is in a distant computer which I can access via SSH
[05:21] <Jucato> wers: did you do what I said earlier? no luck?
[05:21] <maxagaz> using Quanta.
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> you might want to check out that sshfs tool then
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> it makes the ssh connection transparent to the programs.
[05:21] <Jucato> maxagaz: you can access the computer using ssh?
[05:21] <Jucato> Dr_Willis: um.. KDE can do that already. built-in
[05:21] <wers> Jucato, I found no place there where I can point to the folder
[05:22] <Jucato> wers: huh???
[05:22] <Jucato> wers: Alt+Space, Ctrl+C, Configure Katapult, click Ok, try again
[05:22] <Jucato> wers: can't you launch OO.o from the K Menu at all? or is Katapult the only one having problems
[05:23] <wers> both Jucato
[05:23] <Jucato> maxagaz: if you can reach the computer through SSH, all you need to do in Quanta or in any KDE app is to enter the location+user name if necessary in the Open File dialog box
[05:24] <wers> I went to the configuration window but I do not know waht to do so I just clicked ok and it still does not work
[05:24] <Jucato> wers: how did you install OO.o 2.3
[05:24] <ibilic> The order of records in fstab is important because fsck(8), mount(8), and umount(8) sequentially iterate through fstab doing their thing.
[05:25] <ibilic> from the actual man pages
[05:25] <ibilic> somebody said it didn't matter
[05:25] <Jucato> I did. sorry
[05:25] <Jucato> my swap is near the bottom
[05:25] <wers> Jucato: I downloaded the debs.. cd to the DEBS folder then "sudo dpkg -i *.deb"
[05:25] <Jucato> O.o
[05:25] <Jucato> !info openoffice.org
[05:25] <ubotu> openoffice.org: OpenOffice.org Office suite. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.0-1ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 3 kB, installed size 28 kB
[05:26] <Jucato> 2.3 is such a big change from 2.2 in feisty?
[05:26] <Jucato> wers: not sure how well that went since you bypassed the repositories...
[05:26] <genii> Jucato: I dunno but trying to upgrade OOo in gutsy was a nightmare
[05:27] <Jucato> wers: what happens when you try to run in from Konsole?
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> yea - but for a while there were updates evyer other day to it.. and i never used it. :)
[05:27] <CheshireKot> Hi everybody!
[05:28] <ibilic> now, at startup, how does the kernel know where the fstab file is located if the hard disk with it needs to be mounted first?
[05:28] <wers> !paste
[05:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:28] <wers> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37915/
[05:28] <Jucato> hm.. I don't think the boot process goes like that
[05:29] <wers> students like me really need oo.o
[05:29] <Jucato> wers: it doesn't launch at all?
[05:29] <wers> it doesnt
[05:29] <Jucato> ignore those BadDevice errors
[05:29] <Jucato> wers: is that the command line for openoffice? I thought it was oowriter
[05:29] <wers> yeah.. nothing happened after those errors
[05:29] <Jucato> and don't include the
[05:29] <Jucato> %U
[05:30] <wers> i copied it from kmenu editor's command
[05:30] <Jucato> that's why :P
[05:30] <wers> imma try ooffice
[05:30] <Jucato>  is a placeholder
[05:30] <wers> i mean
[05:30] <Jucato> %U is a placeholder
[05:30] <wers> oowriter
[05:30] <poison--> WHY DA HELL IS SO DIFICULT TO MAKE A LAPTOP WEBCAM TO WORK :(
[05:30] <poison--> upos.. sorry bout caps
[05:30] <wers> The program 'oowriter' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:...
[05:30] <wers> this is odd
[05:30] <wers> hahahahahah
[05:31] <Jucato> wers: because you overwrote the default oowriter it seems...
[05:31] <wers> hmmm
[05:31] <Jucato> (was there a particular reason you tried to install 2.3?)
[05:31] <wers> so what am I supposed to do?
[05:31] <maxagaz> Jucato: what syntax to use to open the file via ssh in quanta ?
[05:32] <Jucato> maxagaz: sftp://username@blahblahblah or fish://username@blahblabhblah
[05:32] <Jucato> where blahblahblah would be your computer's IP/host
[05:32] <Jucato> your remote computer's
[05:33] <Jucato> one of KDE's biggest features is network transparency. you can treat remote files as if they were local
[05:33] <Jucato> in almost any app
[05:33] <Tomerz> How do i open mp3 files from ntfs windows partition?
[05:34] <ksivaji> Jucato tell  me you systems usernam and ip
[05:34] <LjL> no password?
[05:34] <Jucato> yeah right
[05:35] <ksivaji> Tomerz mount the ntfs partition and then open
[05:35] <Jucato> wers: btw, on my laptop, 1.6Ghz, 495MB RAM, Feisty, OO.o 2.2, initial run takes 10 seconds. next runs are 2-3s
[05:35] <Tomerz> it's faild
[05:35] <Tomerz> someone here told me about somethingg to install
[05:35] <Tomerz> ntfs 3g something like that
[05:35] <wers> hmm.. what version Jucato?
[05:36] <Jucato> [23:35]  <Jucato> wers: btw, on my laptop, 1.6Ghz, 495MB RAM, Feisty, OO.o 2.2, initial run takes 10 seconds. next runs are 2-3s
[05:36] <ksivaji> !ntfs
[05:36] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:36] <Tomerz> !ntfs-3g
[05:36] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:36] <Jucato> [23:35]  <Jucato> wers: btw, on my laptop, 1.6Ghz, 495MB RAM, Feisty, OO.o 2.2, initial run takes 10 seconds. next runs are 2-3s
[05:39] <n8k99> show off
[05:39] <wers> hmmm
[05:39] <wers> okay..
[05:39] <wers> so what do I do?
[05:39] <wers> I just reinstall oo.o?
[05:39] <wers> watchuthink?
[05:39] <Jucato> I would recommend it
[05:39] <Jucato> and stick to 2.2 in the meantime
[05:40] <Jucato> unless there's some dire reason you need 2.3 :)
[05:40] <wers> k
[05:40] <wers> you're the man
[05:40] <wers> i do what you say
[05:40] <Jucato> nah. I'm just the kid
[05:40] <Jucato> lol!
[05:40] <Jucato> I'm not an OO.o authority
[05:40] <Jucato> I avoid it if I can
[05:41] <BluesKaj> !ntfs-config ...don't forget
[05:41] <BluesKaj> !ntfs-config
[05:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs-config - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:42] <BluesKaj> dumb bot
[05:42] <BluesKaj> !info ntfs-config
[05:42] <ubotu> ntfs-config: Enable/disable write support for any NTFS devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.5-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 41 kB, installed size 432 kB
[05:43] <Jucato> GIGO :)
[05:43] <BluesKaj> ?
[05:43] <arun> Can I use my Sony connect MP3 player with Ubuntu?
[05:44] <BluesKaj> try it and see , arun
[05:44] <BluesKaj> or listen rather
[05:50] <arun> BluesKaj: I want to load songs onto it, how do I do that?
[05:51] <BluesKaj> is it detected in /media ?
[05:51] <adenin> hello, Is anybody able to play video files from sony ericsson mobile phones - extension 3gp with audio? if yes, what software do you use?thanx
[05:52] <n8k99> arun did amarok detect it?
[05:53] <arun> BluesKaj: it's detected in /media
[05:54] <BluesKaj> can ,you open it and see the files there
[05:55] <arun> BluesKaj: i see a bunch of DAT files
[05:55] <arun> i think the songs are all in some OMA format
[05:56] <BluesKaj> try to copy them to a folder
[05:56] <arun> is there any way to convert mp3s to OMA before i transfer?
[05:57] <BluesKaj> sorry dunno anything about OMA
[06:00] <ibilic> whenever I start Kubuntu, the IRC client starts
[06:00] <ibilic> why?
[06:00] <ibilic> how can I not make it start?
[06:00] <z1pp3r> close it down, before you log out
[06:00] <ibilic> i.e. it's as if it is in the "startup" folder in Windows
[06:00] <ibilic> aha ok
[06:00] <ibilic> let me try
[06:01] <stdin> because you had it open when you logged out, made sure you choose "Quit" when you close it
[06:01] <ibilic> right... it just gets minimized
[06:01] <stdin> not when you choose "Quit"
[06:01] <stdin> File > Quit
[06:01] <Tomerz> !superkaramba
[06:01] <ubotu> superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org
[06:01] <stdin> or right click the icon in the system tray
[06:02] <Tomerz> how do i install superkaramba?
[06:02] <stdin> Tomerz: from adept
[06:02] <Tomerz> this is the add/remove programs?
[06:02] <Tomerz> i didnt find it there
[06:02] <rickey> ant geeks in here
[06:02] <rickey>  i need a geek
[06:02] <stdin> Tomerz: look in adept, not add/remove
[06:03] <z1pp3r> rickey, yeah... talking to human beings like that will definitely give you the help you need
[06:03] <rickey> geek is a good thing
[06:03] <z1pp3r> no
[06:04] <rickey> ok try this linux wizard
[06:04] <rickey> '
[06:04] <stdin> you could just ask your question and see...
[06:04] <z1pp3r> rickey, or you could just state your question
[06:04] <rickey> thats what geek means in my generation
[06:05] <rickey> it,s kinda like egg head
[06:05] <stdin> if you have a question, ask it
[06:07] <rickey> well i have messed up  big time , . i was trying to move a file {y messenger} to adept manger
[06:08] <rickey>  i pointed the file to  adept manger   now wen i am trying to open system menu , i get a loge in promp
[06:08] <rickey> for adept manager
[06:08] <rickey>  how do i straten this mess out
[06:09] <XboxUser> Can anyone help me get ident working in Konversation? Normally (on windows) i port forwarded 113 and it worked, doesn't do anything now
[06:09] <rickey> how do i put it back rigth
[06:10] <BluesKaj> I was  a lousy lazy student , a decent athlete, a drummer ,a party animal in my younger days , turned father and grandfather and raised 4 kids ...no one ever called me a geek . Knowing a little about pcs and linux doesn't make one a geek IMO :)
[06:11] <rickey> i wish i was a geek
[06:11] <BluesKaj> gawd
[06:11] <stdin> XboxUser: you have an ident daemon installed?
[06:11] <rickey> <<< would be prould to be a geek
[06:12] <XboxUser> stdin: nope, didn't know I need one... how would I install one?
[06:12] <BluesKaj> then rickey start studying :)
[06:12] <stdin> XboxUser: search adept for "ident-server"
[06:12] <rickey> but now back to my problem with  what i have done
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> identd deamons are normally not needed these days
[06:14] <BluesKaj> stdin, why does he need an ident-server ...whynot just open port 6667
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> given  how useless they are.
[06:15] <stdin> BluesKaj: ident/auth doesn't run on 6667
[06:15] <slackern> 113 is ident
[06:15] <XboxUser> stdin: I found ident2,an advanced, configurable ident daemon
[06:15] <BluesKaj> sounds dangerous if it's lower than port 1064
[06:15] <stdin> some IRC networks for example require the user to have an ident
[06:15] <XboxUser> should i install ident2?
[06:16] <stdin> XboxUser: use what you like :) I use bidentd on my server (where the port is forwarded to) and pidentd on all the clients, and I can ident from any client
[06:16] <tsb> I'd like to remove memtest86+ now. By doing so, aptitude wants to remove the metapackages ubuntu-base and ubuntu-standard. Is this something to worry at all about? I'm thinking I might lose updates in the future if one of those metapackages are updated.
[06:16] <rickey> thank for the help
[06:16] <slackern> I'm using oidentd here myself
[06:16] <Jucato> tsb: why not just edit the GRUB menu?
[06:17] <tsb> Jucato: because it is added at devery upgrade and after a few years now that is getting annoying. :)
[06:17] <tsb> I don't need it.
[06:17] <tsb> (that is - after every update-grub command)
[06:17] <stdin> tsb: there's an option to stop that
[06:17] <Jucato> the metapackages do help in making sure you get the proper updates
[06:17] <tsb> I guess I could just remove the file manually from /boot but..
[06:18] <tsb> Jucato: right, thought so; I'll keep it then.
[06:18] <tsb> stdin: yeah? I haven't seen it
[06:18] <Jucato> of course you're free to remove them. their just metapackages
[06:18] <stdin> tsb: set "# memtest86=true" to "# memtest86=false" in your menu.lst
[06:18] <tsb> Jucato: I know, but as I said, I'd prefer to keep them since they might get updated later
[06:18] <stdin> tsb: should be a few lines before "## ## End Default Options ##"
[06:19] <tsb> stdin: well I'll be darn. Thanks! :)
[06:20] <rickey> i gress ill hafe to reinstall the whole  system to fix moveing a file to the wrong place
[06:21] <BluesKaj> what did you move , rickey
[06:21] <tsb> stdin: hrm, actually update-grub resets the memtest line
[06:21] <tsb> so it's not honored.
[06:21] <stdin> tsb: it shouldn't, it's an option.
[06:21] <tsb> stdin: I agree, but that doesn't change the fact that it does. :)
[06:21] <stdin> tsb: if it resets it please report that as a bug against grub
[06:21] <rickey> i moved a file form /home to adept manager
[06:22] <tsb> stdin: okay, thank you.
[06:22] <Jucato> the only ones that should be modified by update-grub is the automagic kernel list
[06:22] <rickey> now wen i try to open home i get a root loge in  promp
[06:22] <ubunturos> does anybody have a quick guide (with screenshots) to pppoeconf
[06:22] <stdin> tsb: in the short term, removing those meta-packages won't harm you, so if you want to that's ok
[06:22] <ubunturos> ?
[06:23] <tsb> stdin: it's not that important, I rarely reboot and when I do it hardly matters, I'm just desperately postponing other important things. :)
[06:23] <rickey> blue do you have any ideal what i have done
[06:24] <BluesKaj> no and i don't understand why , rickey
[06:24] <Ace2016> moving a file should never kill linux, just boot knoppix or something and your off, unless you forget the password to your encrypted partition like i have, 20+ letters and i remember most of them :( but not all of them
[06:25] <rickey> wen i tryed to move ymessenger to adept manger it asked me if i want to use this program to open this file from now on
[06:25] <ubunturos> my question is the same as that of - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=549317 - thread
[06:25] <Ace2016> lol you messed up your file associations?
[06:26] <rickey> jucato i didnt know i couldnt do that
[06:26] <rickey> yes i think so
[06:26] <Jucato> then what happens now?
[06:27] <rickey> so ace what should i do
[06:27] <rickey>  do you think?
[06:29] <ivanbili> xorg.conf files... what do the different ones mean? xorg.conf.1 xorg.conf.2 xorg.conf.backup?
[06:29] <Jucato> those would be backup copies
[06:30] <Jucato> automatically generated by some script or program perhaps
[06:30] <ivanbili> so which one is the most recent backup?
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> check the dates on them with ls -l
[06:31] <ivanbili> will do, thanks
[06:31] <stdin> ivanbili: the one with the highest number usually
[06:31] <Glebiuskv> ls -l
[06:31] <junkeR_> hey, if I want to dual boot xp and kubuntu... do I install XP first..?
[06:31] <rickey> so pepoel will i hafe to reinstall kubuuuntu 7.04?
[06:32] <rickey> kubuntu 7.04
[06:33] <Jucato> rickey: what kind of file is ymessenger?
[06:33] <rickey> tar
[06:34] <Jucato> rickey: ok so after that, what is happening now?
[06:34] <neolinuxien> bonjour, quelqu un pourrait il m apporter quelques explication sur un soucis avec ma carte video ?
[06:34] <Jucato> !fr | neolinuxien
[06:34] <ubotu> neolinuxien: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:35] <neolinuxien> ok
[06:35] <rickey> wen i try to opensystem menu all i get is a root loge in promp for adept manager
[06:35] <BluesKaj> junkeR_, yes windows, then kubuntu
[06:36] <Jucato> rickey: system menu, as in the one beside the K Menu?
[06:36] <rickey> yes
[06:36] <Jucato> ok hold on a sec. let me try something
[06:38] <Jucato> rickey: Alt+F2, type in "konqueror" (without the quotes)
[06:39] <PunaKone> hmm, im wondering, why doesnt kubuntu boot as a livecd on my laptop, i tried both 64bit and 32bit versions, my laptop is a fujitsu-siemens amilo pa 2510
[06:40] <jussi01> @now helsinki
[06:40] <ubotu> Current time in Europe/Helsinki: September 19 2007, 19:40:45 - Next meeting: Xubuntu Developers in 3 hours 19 minutes
[06:42] <rickey> i am waiteing on you
[06:42] <Jucato> lol I was waiting for you to tell me you were ready :)
[06:42] <rickey> what am i to typed
[06:43] <Jucato> rickey: Alt+F2, type in "konqueror" (without the quotes)
[06:43] <Jucato> go to Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> File Associations
[06:43] <rickey> i am ready
[06:43] <Jucato> there's a list near the middle. select "inode" then "directory"
[06:44] <Jucato> rickey: done?
[06:45] <rickey> not started
[06:45] <Jucato> what is not started yet?
[06:46] <rickey> ALT+ F2 takes me to run comand
[06:46] <Jucato> rickey: um.. of course it does.
[06:46] <Jucato> [00:43]  <Jucato> rickey: Alt+F2, type in "konqueror" (without the quotes)
[06:47] <Jucato> type in "konqueror" in run command
[06:47] <rickey> what am i to type here
[06:47] <Jucato> [00:43]  <Jucato> rickey: Alt+F2, type in "konqueror" (without the quotes)
[06:47] <Jucato> or to make it simpler.. just go to K Menu -> Internet -> Konqueror
[06:48] <rickey> ok
[06:49] <Jucato> now you're in Konqueror right? go to Settings menu -> Configure Konqueror -> File Associations
[06:50] <vecina> How come k3b only burns image files in .iso format, and not .bin or .mdf?
[06:50] <rickey> ok there
[06:51] <Jucato> there's a list near the middle, "Known types". select "inode" then "directory"
[06:51] <Jucato> do you see it?
[06:52] <rickey> ok
[06:52] <stdin> vecina: in can do bin/cue, mfd is a compresses proprietary type and it's not k3b that burns it, it's the tools it uses. so it's a limitation of those tools
[06:52] <stdin> vecina: there are tools to convert the image types to iso tho
[06:52] <stdin> !iso | vecina
[06:52] <ubotu> vecina: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[06:52] <vecina> stdin: I see. What about the .bin ?
[06:52] <rickey> yes i see it
[06:52] <Jucato> rickey: ok, while inode/directory is selected, at the right, there's a list under Application Preference Order
[06:53] <stdin> vecina: it does burn bin/cue yes
[06:53] <rickey>  yes i see it
[06:53] <vecina> stdin: Oh, bin burns normally? cool
[06:53] <Jucato> rickey: is Adept Manager in that list?
[06:53] <rickey> yes
[06:53] <elite101> hey
[06:53] <st10km> hello
[06:53] <st10km> I need some help pleas
[06:54] <stdin> !ask
[06:54] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:54] <st10km> ok
[06:54] <sbucat> lol
[06:54] <sbucat> =)
[06:54] <st10km> 10ks
[06:54] <st10km> : )
[06:54] <Jucato> rickey: click on Adept Manager and then click on Remove
[06:54] <sbucat> woot
[06:54] <rickey> ok done
[06:54] <st10km> I can t install the flash pluging I am with ubuntu
[06:54] <elite101> #ubuntu maybe?
[06:54] <Jucato> rickey: click on apply. then everything should work as normal
[06:54] <rickey> appily , ok and leave
[06:55] <st10km> yes
[06:55] <rickey> thank you so much
[06:55] <Jucato> rickey: everything's ok now?
[06:55] <rickey> yes it is
[06:56] <Jucato> yay!!
[06:56] <stdin> st10km: install it from add/remove or synaptic, and not from the download site
[06:56] <st10km> ok I ll try
[06:56] <rickey>  oooooooooooo man me too
[06:56] <st10km> tank you
[06:56] <stdin> !helpersnack | Jucato
[06:56] <ubotu> Jucato: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[06:56] <Jucato> yay!!! :)
[06:56] <jussi01> hehe
[06:57] <poison--> is it possible to change the way mouse clicks act to double-click to open files?
[06:57] <Jucato> of course :)
[06:57] <poison--> where?
[06:57] <poison--> lmao
[06:57] <Jucato> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Mouse
[06:57] <rickey> now jucato wen you catch you breath
[06:57] <elite101> yeah^
[06:57] <poison--> humm
[06:57] <poison--> didnt find where
[06:57] <SoulChild> why do i have a eth2 device but no eth1 ???
[06:57] <elite101> i had the same problem but i like the single click
[06:57] <rickey>  ill ask if you use yahoo messenger
[06:58] <poison--> ups.. sorry, just found it
[06:58] <poison--> need glasses i guess
[06:58] <elite101> :P
[06:58] <elite101> man im on a online IRC client
[06:58] <Jucato> I liked the single click.. for a year
[06:58] <poison--> Soulchild, change it
[06:58] <elite101> wen-based*
[06:58] <elite101> web*
[06:58] <poison--> haaarrr haaarrr
[06:58] <poison--> :D
[06:58] <st10km> excuse me where is the synaptic ?
[06:58] <slackern> :p
[06:58] <poison--> add it
[06:58] <poison--> kubuntu dont have it
[06:58] <stdin> st10km: are you on Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[06:58] <jussi01> st10km: synaptic == adept
[06:59] <poison--> "add/remove appz"
[06:59] <stdin> st10km: in Kubuntu use Adept?
[06:59] <SoulChild> poison--: how ?
[06:59] <st10km> Ubuntu
[06:59] <elite101> lol
[06:59] <stdin> *no '?'
[06:59] <poison--> !ethernet
[06:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ethernet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:59] <elite101> !devices
[06:59] <poison--> argh
[06:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about devices - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:59] <elite101> mhm
[06:59] <poison--> !eth
[06:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eth - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:59] <poison--> omfg
[06:59] <elite101> ahh stop now
[06:59] <SoulChild> poison--: harrr harrr
[06:59] <poison--> i know i read sometin bout dat
[06:59] <elite101> where screwing around with the bot
[06:59] <poison--> goin limp!
[06:59] <poison--> lmao
[06:59] <BluesKaj> st10km, use synaptic
[07:00] <poison--> just a sec soulchild
[07:00] <st10km> I have 2 download it ?
[07:00] <elite101> lol i requested 15 CD's of Kubuntu :D to give out to my friends
[07:00] <rickey> i want ot download yahoo messenger , can sommeone give me a good link to the rigth one i should be useing , i have kubuntu 7.04
[07:00] <elite101> 7.04* thou
[07:00] <poison--> i requested 50, they sent me 5 :(
[07:00] <elite101> Kopete
[07:00] <stdin> st10km: System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager
[07:00] <elite101> Kopete
[07:00] <elite101> !!! >.<
[07:01] <elite101> rickey, use kopete?
[07:01] <poison--> rickey, use aMSN, Kopete or even gaim
[07:01] <st10km> Lol thank you
[07:01] <stdin> rickey: kopete works with yahoo, and it's better than the yahoo version for linux
[07:01] <elite101> aMSN personally i think it sucks
[07:01] <poison--> like it
[07:01] <rickey> but yoou cant live chat in the livve chatrooms with kopeete
[07:01] <elite101> runs slow i like kopete better its more "up-to-date"
[07:01] <poison--> can even use my porn emoticons from MSN
[07:01] <poison--> :D
[07:01] <Jucato> !language | poison--
[07:01] <ubotu> poison--: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:01] <stdin> rickey: you can't with the linux version of yahoo messenger either
[07:02] <elite101> !offtopic-poison--
[07:02] <elite101> opps
[07:02] <elite101> lanuage nvm
[07:02] <rickey> oooooooooooo my
[07:02] <rickey>  i need my yahoo
[07:02] <elite101> man i suck @ typing this IRC sucks
[07:02] <st10km> stdin - thank you very much
[07:02] <llp78> restarted the pc and now lost sound - havent a clue what to look for can anyone point me in the right direction ?
[07:03] <rickey> is there a program that will run yahoo live chhatrooms
[07:03] <elite101> wow when did all these people come in here? i remember when kubuntu only had like 250ppl at the max
[07:03] <luca> hi everyone
[07:03] <poison--> still searchin here
[07:04] <luca> has anyone tried to install the latest nvidia driver and run compiz?
[07:04] <poison--> what did i said?
[07:04] <poison--> cant say porn?
[07:04] <elite101> NO
[07:04] <poison--> damn
[07:04] <elite101> its rude plus there is young people here
[07:04] <stdin> deal with it, move on
[07:04] <rickey> so linux pepole cant use yahoo live chatroom anymore
[07:04] <elite101> >.<
[07:04] <st10km> I heve to restart ?
[07:04] <elite101> rickey, read on kubuntu/ubuntu website
[07:05] <stdin> st10km: no, just restart firefox
[07:05] <Fivetwentysix> How do i restart apache2?
[07:05] <stdin> Fivetwentysix: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[07:05] <st10km> I installed all pachage where I found like the name flash player
[07:05] <cee> what kind of packages do i need to have installed to get MusicSharing(daap) to work in amarok?
[07:05] <st10km> and it doesn t work
[07:05] <rickey> elilte do you have the link
[07:05] <poison--> soulchild : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=439136
[07:05] <elite101> no
[07:05] <elite101> its elite*
[07:05] <stdin> st10km: it's called "flashplugin-nonfree"
[07:05] <elite101> 101
[07:06] <stdin> !flash | st10km
[07:06] <ubotu> st10km: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[07:06] <SoulChild> poison--: thanks
[07:06] <st10km> ok than ks
[07:06] <poison--> np
[07:07] <elite101> man i broke my patch cord :( for my guitar
[07:07] <elite101> i havent played in like 2weeks now
[07:08] <Doctor_Nick> woo
[07:08] <elite101> i have no money to buy a new one :(
[07:08] <Doctor_Nick> yay
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> patch the patch corf.
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> patch the patch cord.
[07:08] <elite101> lol
[07:08] <danny500> I'm having a problem with System update, Synaptic Install Manager, and the Add/Remove Manager.
[07:08] <elite101> i smashed it cuz it gave me feed back when i  fingertap :P
[07:08] <elite101> it was a 10$ cord
[07:08] <TunaTom> danny500: What's the problem?
[07:08] <danny500> They open, but when I tell them to install they just refresh the list and thats it.
[07:08] <elite101> it was cheap too only had 1 ring
[07:09] <danny500> So I can't install or uninstall anything.
[07:09] <danny500> Well actually Synaptic won't open anymore
[07:09] <elite101> wow kubuntu CD's deliver so fast to my house only takes 2weeks :D
[07:09] <danny500> but I'm thinking it might be from what I did yesturday
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> try apt-get update/upgrade from the terminal yet?
[07:10] <danny500> I did this "sudo chmod 00007 / "
[07:10] <TunaTom> danny500: What did you do yesterday?
[07:10] <TunaTom> Do
[07:10] <TunaTom> nt
[07:10] <danny500> opened up the permissions for everything on the system
[07:10] <elite101> what is that doo
[07:10] <stdin> !away > blizzzek
[07:10] <elite101> omg
[07:10] <elite101> chmmod 0007 does that
[07:11] <elite101> chmod*
[07:11] <TunaTom> chmod -R ?
[07:11] <Hydrarrghgen> that looks silly
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> actually i thought it would just change the modes on the first layer of files /dirs in /
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> 0007 seems odd... also
[07:11] <Hydrarrghgen> it changes just the permissions of /.
[07:11] <Hydrarrghgen> and its backwards
[07:11] <elite101> no its 00007
[07:11] <danny500> Well I was trying to install something through command line and it kept stopping and whinning about permissions so I just opened up permission for everything on the system
[07:11] <Hydrarrghgen> that looks like a umask
[07:11] <Hydrarrghgen> rather than permissions
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> Hydrarrghgen yep.
[07:11] <elite101> so can i do that if something tells me to run in root?
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> 'problem exists between keyboard and chair'
[07:12] <elite101> even when i do sudo it asks me can i do chmod 00007?
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:12] <danny500> no it gives you permission to change things within system folders.
[07:12] <elite101> ahh ic
[07:12] <elite101> nvm then
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> isent there a few too many 0's ?
[07:12] <Hydrarrghgen> thtas a really stupid thing to d.
[07:12] <Hydrarrghgen> o
[07:12] <danny500> nope
[07:12] <Hydrarrghgen> yes
[07:12] <Hydrarrghgen> it is
[07:12] <danny500> 4 0 and one 7
[07:12] <elite101> yep
[07:12] <SoulChild> How do i update udev ????
[07:12] <danny500> or should it be 0007
[07:12] <Hydrarrghgen> anyways I need to go
[07:12] <TunaTom> Dr_Willis: That adds the sticky bit?
[07:13] <danny500> O_O WHAT DID I DO????
[07:13] <elite101> :P
[07:13] <danny500> brb
[07:13] <elite101> why not 007?
[07:13] <Hydrarrghgen> 007 isn't even possible
[07:13] <TunaTom> :)
[07:13] <Hydrarrghgen> because it means everyone can read/write/execute execpt the group/owner
[07:13] <Hydrarrghgen> which makes no sense!
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> chmod 0007 name   Allow only other users (the world) to read, write, and execute this file or directory
[07:13] <danny500> Ya.  How conveinient.
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> Hydrarrghgen yep. thats.... oddddd
[07:14] <elite101> lol they should have that for windows user's
[07:14] <danny500> They do
[07:14] <elite101> sorry i mean "windoze user's"
[07:14] <vecina> bchunk says it cant find the cue image. There isn't one though, just a .bin
[07:14] <TunaTom> danny500: It's your os and your computer. You're even allowed to break it.
[07:14] <elite101> :D
[07:14] <elite101> ill break it for him
[07:14] <danny500> lol
[07:15] <danny500> No I'll do it. My window is already open.
[07:15] <danny500> Just gotta get a good throw
[07:15] <TunaTom> Normally restoring the permissions wouldn't be too hard? dkpg --reconfigure or so?
[07:15] <elite101> lol take your HDD punch the top of it make a dent and put it back in it will fix it :P
[07:15] <elite101> *click click click...
[07:15] <TunaTom> Can't you do that from the "rescue" login?
[07:16] <danny500> who me?
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> different dirs in / have different permissions.  I actually did that once and it did fix it.
[07:16] <elite101> :D
[07:16] <Ace2016> thats not what you do, you put glue in the air hole of the drive,  that'll break ti
[07:16] <Ace2016> it*
[07:16] <elite101> lol
[07:17] <elite101> thats even better
[07:17] <danny500> lol we really love computers eh
[07:17] <elite101> or sauder the transistors together and put it back in
[07:17] <elite101> :P
[07:17] <TunaTom> danny500: Can't you use dpkg --reconfigure from that "rescue" login?
[07:17] <elite101> lol i twisted the transistors on a MOBO (p3 mobo) and gave it to my friend :P
[07:17] <danny500> nope
[07:17] <elite101> they blew up sending metal into his face
[07:18] <elite101> R.I.P jake
[07:18] <elite101> :P JK
[07:20] <kardek> jjj
[07:20] <elite101> wow quiet?
[07:21] <sbucat> lol
[07:21] <elite101> it just dies outta no where
[07:21] <elite101> yes im getting a p4-900Mhz duron Sony Vaio
[07:21] <elite101> :D lol
[07:21] <danny500> I'm getting a AMD Athlon X2 5000+ 3GHz Dual core soon :D
[07:21] <elite101> instead of my p3-AMD-k6 lol im getting the p4 free then im buying a Core 2 dou intel:e6750 2.66Ghz
[07:22] <elite101> o/C to 3.2Ghz
[07:22] <elite101> :P
[07:22] <danny500> MAD Athlon X2 5000+ 3GHz Dual Core 2GB DDR2 RAM 320Sata II HDD for $399 :D:D:D
[07:22] <elite101> Gigabyte MOBO/Nvidia-8800/4gb DDR2800(1gb each) and some wacked out Case
[07:22] <danny500> AMD*
[07:23] <elite101> 400$^
[07:23] <elite101> with out GRFX card
[07:23] <elite101> :P
[07:23] <elite101> grfx card=700$+
[07:23] <Tm_T> !offtopic
[07:23] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:23] <elite101> or i can just buy a gixxer :D for school
[07:23] <elite101> sorry*
[07:24] <elite101> ahhh i got lag!!!!
[07:24] <danny500> My graphics card right now, PNY 768 GDDR3 at 139GB/s for $859 ;)
[07:24] <elite101> lol only 139gbps?
[07:24] <elite101> thats lowend i gotta a GPU of 2.4Ghz
[07:24] <danny500> thats the fastest consumer card on the planet lol
[07:24] <elite101> :D
[07:25] <danny500> thats its transfer rate -_-
[07:25] <TunaTom> danny500: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/476
[07:25] <danny500> ok thanks
[07:25] <elite101> Kubuntu is letting me run my ;Nvidia 9900 ExTRemE GPU:3.0Ghz RAM: 4GB-DDR3 1666Mhz(500Gbps)
[07:25] <elite101> :P
[07:26] <danny500> O_O HTF did you get it that fast?
[07:26] <elite101> wait about a month that card will comeout
[07:26] <elite101> :D
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> actually nvidia seems to be milking out the 8800 line for a LONG time...
[07:26] <Tm_T> I feel repeating
[07:26] <Tm_T> !offtopic
[07:26] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> little bitty improvements here and there.
[07:26] <elite101> yeah
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> They know they got a lead. and its profit here.. :) so why push somthing that competes against theirself.
[07:27] <elite101> hey im at the library im going to ask what therer going to do with there 3.0Ghz p4's they hav sitting around
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> I got a low end 8800 right now. Not put ubuntu on this box yet.
[07:27] <elite101> :D
[07:27] <elite101> i might score one
[07:27] <Tm_T> please, do move your offtopic chat to #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:28] <danny500> is it a Geforce?
[07:28] <elite101> is a 3.0Ghz p4 fast?
[07:28] <elite101> for kubuntu
[07:28] <llutz> fast enough
[07:28] <elite101> well i might score one from the library im here rite now
[07:28] <hcbox> is it possible to migrate frome debian to ubuntu without any disk
[07:29] <elite101> they have them sitting around they not using them
[07:29] <danny500> what kind of fast are you talking about? :P
[07:29] <elite101> lol i was asking cuz it would be offtopic >.<
[07:29] <danny500> hcbox, install the ubuntu desktop
[07:29] <danny500> thats it
[07:29] <elite101> if i said with out kubunt
[07:29] <hcbox> as apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ... is it so easy...
[07:29] <elite101> kubuntu*
[07:29] <elite101> mhm
[07:30] <tid-wave> hello. I can't change the MAC address of my NIC in the configuration file(/etc/network/interfaces). If I manually change it with ifconfig eth2 hw ether xx:xx... it works but if I put the mac addr in the interfaces file it doesn't get set at boot. What should I do ?
[07:30] <TunaTom> dann500: Is there ubuntu-desktop in debian?
[07:30] <danny500> I'm not sure but that might work, try it
[07:30] <elite101> www.goodbye-microsoft.com
[07:30] <elite101> :P
[07:30] <danny500> use your package manager
[07:30] <elite101> installs using windows
[07:30] <elite101> NTFS
[07:30] <LjL> kubuntu won't run well without a quadcode with 3 gigs of ram unfortunately, but you can try with DSL running under VMWare running under WINE running under Xubuntu, it's lighter
[07:30] <elite101> well i gotta
[07:30] <elite101> bye
[07:30] <danny500> I know in Ubuntu I can switch to Kubuntu, Edubuntu, and all the other buntu using the package manager
[07:31] <jhutchins> LjL: You are talking through your hat.
[07:31] <XboxUser> Can anyone help me install this? http://www.freebyte.com/linux/libraries/ dunno what to do :( I need that for hjsplit
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> switch with the package manager?  I just pick what one to use from the Login screen. :)
[07:32] <LjL> jhutchins: it's im afraid of the pollution
[07:32] <danny500> XboxUser: ./configer; make; make install
[07:32] <llutz> tid-wave:put a script to change in /etc/network/pre-up.d
[07:32] <llutz>  /etc/network/if-pre-up.d   sry
[07:33] <TunaTom> XboxUser: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[07:34] <Jucato> !compile | XboxUser
[07:34] <ubotu> XboxUser: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:34] <genii> XboxUser: sudo ./configure it should have been in what danny suggested. You may also nned to put sudo in front of the next 2 commands as well. First also you should have the packages Tunatom suggests
[07:34] <TunaTom> XboxUser: Do you know how to use the console?
[07:34] <tid-wave> llutz: thank you for the tip
[07:35] <danny500> download the file. Open terminal, click and drag the configure file into the terminal then when it's done going through that type make and press enter, after that type make install and press enter, Then you should be good.
[07:36] <danny500> elite
[07:36] <Jucato> genii: sudo ./configure? sudo make? O.o
[07:37] <drewcipher_> Jucato: I thought sudo was only needed for        make install
[07:37] <llutz> no need for sudo with configure/make and never install with "make install"
[07:37] <Jucato> it is..
[07:37] <llutz> use checkinstall
[07:37] <XboxUser> bah im still sooo confused
[07:37] <genii> Jucato: Damn. Obviously i need some more coffee. these nights with 4 hours sleep are killing my brain
[07:37] <Jucato> and with the proper setup, no need for sudo make install either...
[07:37] <TunaTom> XboxUser: Ever used the console?
[07:38] <XboxUser> yep
[07:38] <stuq> could someone tell me how to eliminate strigidaemon from startup?
[07:38] <TunaTom> Did you download that file?
[07:38] <XboxUser> not very familiar with the commands yet though :(
[07:38] <stuq> I'm not seeing it in session manager
[07:38] <XboxUser> yep
[07:38] <TunaTom> Did you unpack it?
[07:38] <Jucato> a proper ./configure --prefix is preferred over checkinstall...
[07:38] <XboxUser> yep
[07:39] <stdin> dh_make is even better
[07:39] <Jucato> XboxUser: did you read the CompilingSoftware guide?
[07:39] <danny500> kudos on what Jucato said
[07:39] <TunaTom> XboxUser: In the console go to the new directory.
[07:39] <TunaTom> XboxUser: There you type:
[07:39] <XboxUser> done
[07:39] <llutz> Jucato: use both, always better to have a bad .deb than just install without package-system
[07:39] <TunaTom> ./configure
[07:39] <TunaTom> XboxUser: Then a lot of stuff should scroll by.
[07:40] <Jucato> better to have a bad nothing :)
[07:40] <XboxUser> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[07:40] <danny500> XboxUser: /home/username/directory/configure
[07:40] <danny500> then  make
[07:40] <danny500> then make install
[07:40] <TunaTom> danny500: You're too fast
[07:41] <danny500> lol sorry
[07:41] <TunaTom> XboxUser: You are in the wrong directory. What does the command ls say?
[07:41] <llutz> Jucato: just to avoid trouble when updating/removing etc. i prefer to use .debs
[07:42] <z1pp3r> I have an application running on a machine with dual cpu's (not just dual-core). However, the said application only uses one of the cpu's. What gives?
[07:42] <Jucato> llutz: removing is easy. again with the proper setup. updating is even messier with debs vs. repository packages
[07:43] <Jucato> with the proper --prefix and setup, no matter how many times your system updates the packages, it will still use your compiled app
[07:43] <TunaTom> XboxUser: Dont. Here's help.
[07:44] <danny500> XboxUser. You learn how to use Linux that'l open up alot of stuff for you
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> I would give out some snide comment.. :) but i will restrain myself.
[07:44] <danny500> Windows = Games, Linux= GOD
[07:44] <danny500> -_o
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> oops.. wid i say that in my outside voice..
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:45] <danny500> hehe
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. My darn new PC has a 'fan rattle/whine' when the cpu hits 100%
[07:45] <danny500> I only have one problem with Linux and thats some times you get a crappy install and sometimes you don't
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> every time i see someone blame 'linux' its not 'linux;s' problem   - its the decsions the disrto makers do thats that is the problem. :)
[07:46] <danny500> yup
[07:46] <danny500> WHO TOOK ZSNES OFF THE PACKAGE MANAGERS?
[07:46] <Jucato> !caps
[07:46] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[07:46] <danny500> sorry
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> danny500 using the 64bit disrto?
[07:46] <danny500> 32
[07:46] <Jucato> danny500: no one did
[07:46] <Jucato> !info zsnes
[07:47] <ubotu> zsnes: Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (TM). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.420-2.1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 513 kB, installed size 3232 kB (Only available for i386)
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> zsnes is 32 bit only. it was in the packages yesterday
[07:47] <danny500> well it's not there anymore :(
[07:47] <Jucato> !info zsnes gutsy
[07:47] <ubotu> zsnes: Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (TM). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.510-1 (gutsy), package size 878 kB, installed size 4060 kB (Only available for i386)
[07:47] <Jucato> still there
[07:47] <danny500> I have feisty fawn
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> BEBKAC
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> oops.. Pebkac.
[07:47] <Jucato> still there, in both
[07:47] <danny500> hmmm, thats weird.
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> check ya sources?
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> apt-get update, upgrade, try again
[07:47] <danny500> It doesn't show up on my installers
[07:47] <danny500> I have all the sources installed
[07:48] <Jucato> sudo apt-get install zsnes
[07:48] <danny500> well even still. With my installers on strike right now and all haha
[07:48] <danny500> sudo: can't open /etc/sudoers: Permission denied
[07:49] <Jucato> oh yeah.. messed up filesystem?
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> is this back to the chmod 00007 fiasco?
[07:49] <danny500> I guess
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> good luck. :)
[07:50] <Netkiller3714> ok how would I fix this problem anyways?
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> fix your chmod 0007  issue?
[07:50] <Netkiller3714> I'm thinking theres a problem with the /etc/sudoers
[07:50] <Netkiller3714> ya that to, I think me going sudo chmod 00007 / started it all
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> id bet its an issue with the permissions you just set on etc
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> and everything else in /
[07:51] <Netkiller3714> ok how do I set normal permissions?
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> boot a live cd, see what perms it has on / stuff, then go to the mounted installed system and chmod them all back the way they should be.
[07:51] <CBZ32> He yall
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> drwxr-xr-x 132 root root 12288 2007-09-19 10:48 etc
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> drwxr-xr-x   3 root root  4096 2007-08-14 02:21 home
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> are the 2 main dirs of impiorntance.
[07:52] <Netkiller3714> bash: drwxr-xr-x: command not found
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> most of the dirs in / are that way.
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> Netkiller3714 now is when you should learn some bash basics. I think
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> ls -l
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> shows all teh dirs/permissions
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> which i bet for yours are like -----------x
[07:53] <Netkiller3714> want me to pastebin it?
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> not really. : ) i m  Out of here in 3 min anyway.
[07:53] <Netkiller3714> :(
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> you used the chmod command to mess them up. use it to fix the dirs
[07:54] <Netkiller3714> ok
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> sudo chmod SOMTHING /etc
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> Logical thinking  :)
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> assuming it even lets you chmod them back
[07:55] <Netkiller3714> nope
[07:55] <Netkiller3714> permission denied :@
[07:55] <Netkiller3714> I think I might need to reinstall O_O
[07:56] <Netkiller3714> !pastebin
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> windows user mentliyty!
[07:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:56] <Netkiller3714> pastebin!
[07:56] <Netkiller3714> wtf?
[07:56] <Netkiller3714> oh lol
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> or like i said.. use a live cd.,  mount your / then chmod the dirs.
[07:56] <Jucato> (one by one :P)
[07:56] <Netkiller3714> yay
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> yep :)
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> or cheat and use mc.
[07:57] <Netkiller3714> mc?
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> !mc
[07:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> !info mc
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> The ultimate filemanger.
[07:57] <ubotu> mc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-7ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2057 kB, installed size 5944 kB
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> Or just reinstall.. will proberly be faster for you. :)
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> then read some bash starter guides over the weekend.
[07:57] <Netkiller3714> haha ok
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> dare i even ASK where/how you learned of 'chmod 00007 /'   ??
[07:58] <Netkiller3714> who gave it that name bash?
[07:58] <Netkiller3714> around
[07:58] <Netkiller3714> here lol
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> I bet they are all laughing at you :)
[07:58] <Netkiller3714> I think I added to many 0's
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> i cant even think of a use for 0007
[07:58] <Netkiller3714> I think it should be 0007
[07:58] <Netkiller3714> lol thats it
[07:58] <Netkiller3714> 0007
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> now 777 makes more sence.. its just as BAD.. but not as bad as 0007
[07:59] <Netkiller3714> what does 0007 do anyways lol
[07:59] <slackern> Netkiller3714: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bash
[07:59] <runlevelten> that's classified.
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> rember what i said earlier about learning some bash basics? :)
[07:59] <poison--> error while trying to axx linux share with samba: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED
[07:59] <poison--> any ideas?
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> man chmod
[08:00] <Netkiller3714> ok
[08:00] <drewcipher_> lutz:  (delayed reaction)  regarding never install with "make install", what is the preferred method?
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> for a start. and theres a lot of bash/shell starter guides out. because anytying we say.. will leade you to ask.. ok what does 'executable' mean.. what does... whatever mean...
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> :)
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> 'whats a shell' heh.. wheres the tab key? whats a !
[08:00] <jhutchins> !info flexbackup
[08:00] <ubotu> flexbackup: Flexible backup tool for small to medium sized installations. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.1-5ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 76 kB, installed size 332 kB
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> :) and its time for me to go to work. good luck.
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> byee
[08:00] <Netkiller3714> wheres the "any" key?
[08:01] <Netkiller3714> I just got the joke about Dr Willis
[08:01] <Netkiller3714> nvm
[08:01] <runlevelten> Netkiller3714: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bond
[08:01] <Netkiller3714> does anyone know where the any key is?
[08:03] <runlevelten> It's the one with a bendy arrow on.
[08:03] <poison--> its a combined use of keys
[08:03] <poison--> usually Ctrl+Alt+Del
[08:03] <poison--> :D
[08:03] <Netkiller3714> lol a n y at the same time haha
[08:04] <Netkiller3714> thats weird.
[08:04] <Netkiller3714> everytime I press a n y at the same time I always get yna
[08:05] <Netkiller3714> yna
[08:05] <Netkiller3714> yna
[08:05] <Netkiller3714> see
[08:09] <poison--> anyone knows a cool app to add/remove users?
[08:09] <poison--> the default one crashes all the time
[08:10] <Daskreech2> So cool it will get you dates?
[08:11] <jhutchins> poison--: useradd/adduser
[08:11] <Daskreech2>  I've never heard of adding and removing users from a system as "cool" :)
[08:11] <jhutchins> poison--: You probably need to figure out the crash though.
[08:11] <Jucato> poison--: kuser
[08:12] <Jucato> but jhutchins is right
[08:12] <poison--> nice
[08:12] <poison--> ty
[08:18] <poison--> didnt work fine... cant create folders 4 passwd ans stuff
[08:21] <paolo>  "Interface doesn't have a list of Peers/Access-Points"
[08:21] <paolo> [20:20]  <paolo> this is what i see with iwlist
[08:21] <paolo> how can i solve?
[08:22] <dASkreech> iwlist scan
[08:40] <GuHhH> i need some help... im trying to remove some packages with dpkg --purge, but it says  it has dependencies... --force do not solves the problem
[08:45] <JuJuBee> got weird behavior shutting down.   If I use sudo shutdown now all is good. ?
[08:45] <JuJuBee> Same for restart
[08:45] <slapfaceware> is there kde4?
[08:45] <slapfaceware> can i run kde4 in kubuntu
[08:47] <slapfaceware> is there kde4 in pository
[08:47] <emilsedgh> slapfaceware: thats in feisty-backports
[08:47] <dASkreech> !topic | slapfaceware
[08:47] <ubotu> slapfaceware: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[08:47] <stdin> slapfaceware: I see you don't read the topic...
[08:48] <slapfaceware> topic? what's that
[08:48] <stdin> slapfaceware:  ubotu just told you
[08:49] <TunaTom> Why should anyone want to know how much shared memory a given process uses?
[08:50] <dASkreech> TunaTom: Profiling?
[08:51] <TunaTom> dASkreech: That's why ps, top, htop and ksysguard all show that by default?
[08:51] <TunaTom> I can't think of an practical use that value could give me in my day to day work.
[08:52] <dASkreech> So take it out
[08:52] <JohnFlux> TunaTom: a frequent use of ksysguard is to kill programs that have run out of control :)
[08:53] <dASkreech> Oh right JohnFlux should know :)
[08:53] <TunaTom> Okay, but do you use the value of "Shared Memory" as criterion for which process to kill?
[08:54] <TunaTom> Does something like a "shared memory leak" exist?
[08:54] <TunaTom> Too offtopic?
[08:55] <dASkreech> Not yet but getting there
[08:55] <JohnFlux> TunaTom: I think you often want to see what programs are using up all your memory
[08:55] <dASkreech> shared memory can be used as criteria for killing I suspect
[08:55] <paymun> hi im new to linux and im updating everything with /adept updater but I got this pop up Debconf, Services to restart for PAM library upgrade: kdm cupsys cron atd when i press next i goto a black screen i dunno what to do
[08:55] <Black_Monkey> hi, what can I get to see the sizes of a load of a long list of folders?
[08:56] <JohnFlux> TunaTom: especially when you are very low on memory :)
[08:56] <dASkreech> if something is using a lot of memory but most of it is shared then killing it doesn't really affect your overall profile
[08:56] <stdin> paymun: you should remove kdm from that list
[08:56] <paymun> stdin kdm from the list in the updates?
[08:57] <TunaTom> dASkreech: You mean "Memory" inkludes "Shared Memory"?
[08:57] <stdin> paymun: from the list "kdm cupsys cron atd" remove "kdm"
[08:57] <martijn81> what is the best way to learn xml?
[08:57] <paymun> ok thx
[08:57] <dASkreech> TunaTom: Really should ask JohnFlux :)
[08:58] <dASkreech> martijn81: Practice
[08:58] <JohnFlux> TunaTom: http://bddf.ca/~aseigo/krunner_systemactivity1.png
[08:58] <Squirrely_Wrath> Okay, total noob question.   How do I save changes that I made using nano?
[08:58] <JohnFlux> TunaTom: these are the columns in kde4
[08:58] <dASkreech> Squirrely_Wrath: There is a menu at the bottom of the screen
[08:58] <JohnFlux> TunaTom: an old screenshot (it's a bit more pretty now) but same columns remain
[08:58] <Squirrely_Wrath> Yes, but no save option in the menu
[08:58] <TunaTom> JohnFlux: I am currently writing the documentation for that ver program.
[08:59] <JohnFlux> TunaTom: for kde4?
[08:59] <JohnFlux> TunaTom: ah very neat
[08:59] <JohnFlux> TunaTom: thank you :)
[08:59] <TunaTom> No, thank you :)
[08:59] <paymun> oh sweet stdin ::
[09:01] <slapfaceware> anyone running kde4
[09:01] <TunaTom> sure
[09:01] <JohnFlux> TunaTom: I think the best you can say is that Memory is the memory that the program uniquely uses
[09:01] <Squirrely_Wrath> so...anyone tell me the shortcut for saving changes in nano?  No save option on the bottom portion of the screen.
[09:01] <JohnFlux> TunaTom: Shared Memory is the memory that can be shared among other programs
[09:02] <nzk> Argh, why won't Liferea open!? I open it in KDE Ubuntu 7.04, and it shows the little loading thing next to the pointer, then vanishes, without a trace. Doesn't open.
[09:02] <TunaTom> I just got a very nice answer in ##linux, but thanks anyway.
[09:02] <JohnFlux> Squirrely_Wrath: ctrl+x  and quit ? :)
[09:02] <JohnFlux> Squirrely_Wrath: that will ask if you want to save
[09:02] <Squirrely_Wrath> Ah, thanks john
[09:02] <Black_Monkey> what's the name of that program which shows squares representing the sizes of all the files/folders inside a folder?
[09:02] <Jucato> Black_Monkey: Konqueror. View menu -> View mode -> File Size View
[09:03] <Black_Monkey> >_< ahh, didn't realise konqueror does it, thanks Jucato
[09:04] <TunaTom> JohnFlux: I just learned that shared memory can be misused as every other memory, too.
[09:04] <TunaTom> So memory leaks can affect shared memory as well.
[09:04] <TunaTom> And the "Memory" value inkludes "Shared Memory"
[09:05] <JohnFlux> TunaTom: no it doesn't :-D
[09:05] <JohnFlux> TunaTom: where did you read that? :)
[09:05] <TunaTom> I understood it from what the guys in ##linux told me.
[09:05] <JohnFlux> TunaTom: the Memory column is smarter than top or kde3
[09:05] <JohnFlux> TunaTom: it's not the RSS value that you get in top or kde3 ksysguard
[09:06] <TunaTom> So? What does the memory column show?
[09:06] <JohnFlux> TunaTom: it shows the actual physical memory used by that app, not including shared libraries
[09:07] <JohnFlux> TunaTom: aka URSS - unique RSS
[09:07] <JohnFlux> TunaTom: look at the screenshot:  http://bddf.ca/~aseigo/krunner_systemactivity1.png   you can see for some apps, the shared memory is higher than memory
[09:07] <JohnFlux> TunaTom: the memory column is the best way to judge how much memory an app is using
[09:08] <TunaTom> JohnFlux: Damn, I could have seen that on my own screen !
[09:08] <JohnFlux> TunaTom: top and kde3 ksysguard show useless numbers
[09:08] <JohnFlux> and lie to you :-)
[09:08] <ubuntu_> testing...
[09:08] <JohnFlux> ubuntu_: didn't work
[09:08] <progress0r> im having a weird problem with video - i can only play video from the web or dvd using mplayer (command line) or maybe one other media app. The others (gstreamer/totem etc) display the video as smashed together vertically. somewhat difficult to explain.Anyone had this happen?
[09:09] <TunaTom> JohnFlux: You have deep insight into the workings of the System Activity tool. How come?
[09:09] <JohnFlux> TunaTom: I wrote it
[09:09] <TunaTom> No
[09:09] <JohnFlux> lol
[09:09] <TunaTom> Cool, first time for me to meet an actual kde dev!
[09:09] <JohnFlux> lol
[09:10] <JohnFlux> TunaTom: you can read all about me :-D http://www.behindkde.org/people/johnflux/?language=en
[09:11] <Riddell> he's famous is oor JohnFlux
[09:11] <JohnFlux> Riddell: btw, I told you that the kde4 release date would be pushed back :-D  I win!
[09:12] <TunaTom> But in one question remains: Why then should I want to see that value?
[09:13] <NAZ87> Anyone would please help me with pppoe internet connection?
[09:14] <Tm_T> Riddell sir, welcome back
[09:14] <TunaTom> I have to leave. Thanks JohnFlux. Can I ask some more tomorrow?
[09:14] <JohnFlux> TunaTom: sure
[09:14] <JohnFlux> TunaTom: i'm always around
[09:14] <JohnFlux> :-D
[09:15] <TunaTom> :)
[09:16] <jhutchins> Like we're going to limit answers to one day.
[09:16] <jhutchins> NAZ87: This isn't your first time on, is it.
[09:16] <jhutchins> NAZ87: What's the problem?
[09:17] <NAZ87> yes, it is my first time here
[09:17] <NAZ87> maybe is better going in private?
[09:18] <NAZ87> jhutchins, i'm sorry for my English...
[09:20] <dASkreech> NAZ87: No answers are always better in the open
[09:21] <NAZ87> ok, ok
[09:21] <NAZ87> so...
[09:21] <Riddell> Tm_T: I'm not back anywhere, still in Tenerife (also I'm yet to be offered a knighthood)
[09:21] <NAZ87> i don't exactly know how to connect properly my pc on the Net...
[09:21] <Tm_T> Riddell: oh, so sorry sir, my mistake
[09:21] <Riddell> don't hide!  just stop calling me sir
[09:21] <NAZ87> i have a Ethernet modem
[09:22] <Riddell> JohnFlux: did I doubt you?
[09:22] <ScorpKing> NAZ87: model? make?
[09:22] <NAZ87> and I use to connect it by typing "sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop
[09:23] <NAZ87> and then "sudo /etc/init.d/networking start"
[09:23] <NAZ87> ... and it works, because i configured the modem with pppoe conf, but...
[09:23] <paolo_> i'm still fighting with my wi-fi nic. drivers seem correctly installed, but iwconfig says " Access Point: Not-Associated" what should i do? thniks
[09:23] <JohnFlux> Riddell: i don't think so :-D
[09:23] <Tm_T> Riddell: yes, sir!
[09:23] <JohnFlux> Riddell: but uh I win anyway
[09:24] <NAZ87> first of all: the automatic connection at startup doesn't work
[09:25] <NAZ87> and, i wish i could connect my pc using a graphical application
[09:26] <NAZ87> in my Kubuntu 7.04 there is Knetwork manager but it seems to be "under" the command "networking-start"
[09:26] <NAZ87> and i don't know how to use it  well
[09:26] <NAZ87> any suggestion?
[09:27] <ScorpKing> NAZ87: the command you always used should work. check your cable and whatever you get dhcp from.
[09:28] <jhutchins> NAZ87: I'll see what answers you get from people familiar with the GUI before I recommend diald.
[09:28] <jhutchins> I seem to remember a pppoe specific package from a few years ago, non-gui also.
[09:29] <ScorpKing> jhutchins: how does diald work on eth0? that should be straight forward networking right?
[09:29] <NAZ87> SkorpKing:the command actually works... but why does the auto-connection at startup doesn't?
[09:29] <ScorpKing> NAZ87: not sure. is there anything in the logs maybe?
[09:29] <jhutchins> diald looks for attempts to route over a defined connection and brings up that connection on demand.  It's meant to work with dial-up ppp, but works fine with pppoe.
[09:30] <centermedia> hello
[09:30] <umformer> hi all
[09:30] <centermedia> oi
[09:30] <centermedia> hi
[09:30] <jhutchins> NAZ87: I suppose you could add the command to rc.local
[09:30] <NAZ87> SkorpKing: don't call me stupid, but... what logs?
[09:30] <ScorpKing> jhutchins: i see. :)
[09:31] <umformer> first time using irc
[09:31] <jhutchins> NAZ87: Main log is /var/log/messages, but ppp usually has it's own logs as well.
[09:31] <centermedia> what skeaking portugues
[09:31] <centermedia> alguem fala portugues
[09:31] <NAZ87> ok...
[09:31] <ScorpKing> NAZ87: very few people are stupid. they're just uneducated.
[09:31] <jhutchins> !pt | centermedia
[09:31] <ubotu> centermedia: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[09:31] <jhutchins> Nah, plenty of people are stupid, but not too many make it here!
[09:32] <NAZ87> the fact is that i cannot really know when my pc is connected and when is not...
[09:32] <ScorpKing> lol
[09:32] <centermedia> #ubuntu-pt
[09:32] <jhutchins> NAZ87: We presume that if you're here, you have questions.  That or answering them amuses you.
[09:32] <poison--> centermedia, eu falo
[09:32] <centermedia> ou
[09:32] <jhutchins> NAZ87: Um, there are packages to use the keyboard lights to monitor your connection, and any number of on-screen widgets that will tell you that.
[09:32] <centermedia> blz
[09:32] <umformer> ufff
[09:33] <NAZ87> because the small icon of Knetwork manager always shows that the PC is connected...
[09:33] <umformer> kids ?
[09:33] <centermedia> poison:
[09:33] <poison--> fala
[09:33] <umformer> ok
[09:33] <centermedia> vc saca de servidores em linux:]
[09:33] <jhutchins> NAZ87: You need to set it to monitor the ppp connection, because it's showing the ethernet connection, which is always up.
[09:33] <NAZ87> but sometimes i lost the connection (and i don't know if it's a network problem or a problem of my PC)
[09:34] <centermedia> sou ranso no merda do ruindos, to querendo migrar pros sistemas livres
[09:34] <centermedia> mas to meio sem um comeo
[09:34] <jhutchins> NAZ87: Dropped connections are just part of ppp.
[09:34] <poison--> entra no ubuntu-pt
[09:35] <NAZ87> jhutchins: when i type the "stop" command in the shell, the icon shows that the connection is broken...
[09:36] <centermedia> blz
[09:36] <NAZ87> but i have to think it shows the ETHernet connection
[09:37] <pagan0ne> can someone help me with serial ports in virtualbox, or direct me to where i can get help
[09:39] <jhutchins> NAZ87: You should be able to set up a "check ping" or "test ping" to monitor the connection, and set it to reconnect if it drops.
[09:39] <jhutchins> pagan0ne: #virtualbox?
[09:39] <pagan0ne> jhutchins: was there, channel was empty?
[09:40] <jhutchins> pagan0ne: You'll probably have to try the forums/mailing list then.
[09:40] <NAZ87> jhutchins: good idea, but i'm sorry i don't think i'm able to do that...
[09:40] <NAZ87> do i have to build a script?
[09:40] <jhutchins> NAZ87: I don't have the gui stuff, but it seems to me that kppp does that.
[09:40] <pagan0ne> jhutchins: no no that cant be :( oh well, ill try there unless someone else has some idea how to configure VBox to pass through serial port connections to the hardware
[09:40] <NAZ87> or maybe a bash command?
[09:42] <NAZ87> jhutchins: I have kppp installed but i think it's only for dial-up connections
[09:42] <NAZ87> i mean: in the program description is written that it works with dial-up connection
[09:42] <jhutchins> NAZ87: I think it will also work with pppoe, because it works for pptp/vpn.
[09:43] <NAZ87> jhutchins: ok, thanks, i will try (not now because i have to go...)
[09:43] <jhutchins> also take a look at the docs for pppd.
[09:44] <NAZ87> jhutchins: where can i find them?
[09:44] <jhutchins> man pppd, # pppd in konq
[09:46] <NAZ87> jhutchins: ok thanks, very kind of you... now i have to go, i'm going to try with kppp tomorrow
[09:46] <NAZ87> see you here!!!
[09:46] <NAZ87> bye bye everybody
[09:46] <NAZ87>  (and sorry for my bad English) ;)
[09:48] <poison--> now im getting really crazy with smb
[09:48] <poison--> im able to axx the linux share but after i getinto the folder, it says folder doesnt exist
[09:48] <poison--> lmao
[09:51] <pagan0ne> anyone know how i can get a listing of what serial ports ubuntu reconizes on my system, and what hardware is attached to those ports?
[09:52] <parsnip> hi all
[09:53] <JohnFlux> pagan0ne: you can't probe serial ports for hardware
[09:54] <JohnFlux> pagan0ne: there's no standard for sending such questions to anything attached to the serial port
[09:54] <pagan0ne> JohnFlux: that sucks, so theres no way to know what i have connected to ttyS2 and ttyS3 just from the software? to see if they are even talking to the hardware?
[09:54] <JohnFlux> pagan0ne: you can view the raw data
[09:54] <JohnFlux> pagan0ne: cat /dev/ttyS2
[09:55] <pagan0ne> JohnFlux: ill try that, thanks
[09:55] <pagan0ne> JohnFlux: is there even any way to tell IF sompthing is connected?
[09:55] <JohnFlux> pagan0ne: none
[09:55] <JohnFlux> pagan0ne: the serial port is the most basic port.  It's just a bunch of data lines
[09:56] <JohnFlux> uh opps
[09:56] <pagan0ne> JohnFlux: lol, i figured as much, but was hoping that i could atleast get software to tell me SOMPTHING was connected...
[09:56] <boubbin> is it possible to "boot" ubuntu with "/" not mounted ?
[09:56] <JohnFlux> pagan0ne: it's just a bunch of data lines with a chip that talks the standard protocol RS232
[09:57] <parsnip> Is there any way to make apt-get automatically download dependancies without me having to say yes to download them
[09:57] <JohnFlux> boubbin: sure - you have a filesystem rolled into boot files
[09:57] <boubbin> :)
[09:57] <JohnFlux> boubbin: called an initrd - - initial ram disk
[09:57] <boubbin> i need to resize the / partition
[09:58] <JohnFlux> boubbin: I would just boot of a knoppix disk then
[09:58] <JohnFlux> and use the gui resize tools on that
[09:58] <boubbin> yeah
[09:58] <JohnFlux> boubbin: but it is totally doable from the initrd
[09:58] <pagan0ne> JohnFlux: well say i had a bin file i needed to flash to a device, in windows the manufacturer provides a spefic utility to flash it with, and regular bin updates, however under ubuntu, the software wont run in wine, and i cant get the serial ports to pass through to a VM, is there any other way to try to flash the device? im not worried about bricking it....
[09:58] <JohnFlux> boubbin: but I'm not sure if it includes a resize util
[09:58] <JohnFlux> boubbin: it's kept very small, for obvious reasons
[09:58] <boubbin> livecd is fine
[09:59] <boubbin> JohnFlux it has apt-get :P
[10:00] <JohnFlux> boubbin: I meant the initrd
[10:00] <boubbin> ok nice
[10:00] <JohnFlux> pagan0ne: can you do "cat /dev/ttyS3"  or does it give an error?
[10:00] <pagan0ne> JohnFlux: read/write error
[10:01] <pagan0ne> pagan0ne: i beleave the device needs to be in a certin state to attempt the flash though, right after a hard reboot the device i beleave is ready to be flashed, havent tried cat'ing it then
[10:02] <JohnFlux> pagan0ne:  it will be near impossible to do from linux.  you don't know what speed to talk to it even
[10:02] <poison--> how can i make a file to alow read/write/executable?
[10:02] <JohnFlux> pagan0ne: you don't know the parity to use, and so on
[10:03] <pagan0ne> JohnFlux: if i could find out speed and parity info would that help?
[10:03] <JohnFlux> pagan0ne: not really
[10:03] <JohnFlux> pagan0ne: you still don't know the command to put it in the correct mode
[10:03] <JohnFlux> pagan0ne:  well
[10:03] <JohnFlux> pagan0ne: if you are interested, you can attach a listener to the serial port, in windows, inside a VM
[10:04] <soon> Any suggestions where I might get a FULL Openoffice package for my AMD64 based Kubuntu??
[10:04] <JohnFlux> pagan0ne: then write down what it sends to the data port
[10:04] <pagan0ne> JohnFlux: well asfar as communicating with the device, there's a chance i could get in touch with a developer for it, and get that kind of info,
[10:04] <JohnFlux> pagan0ne: then replicate that in linux.  it will probably only be a few characters
[10:04] <JohnFlux> pagan0ne: you can run the windows program in vmware, and see what it sets the serial port to
[10:06] <JohnFlux> pagan0ne: stupid question...
[10:06] <JohnFlux> pagan0ne: have you enabled serial ports in the bios
[10:06] <pagan0ne> JohnFlux: that shouldnt be a problem, what program under linux would i use to set the mode, open the port, and transfer the bin
[10:06] <JohnFlux> pagan0ne: that would be what is preventing you from passing the serial ports to vmware
[10:06] <pagan0ne> JohnFlux: yeah, serial ports are enabled under bios, when i dual boot, windows sees them fine
[10:06] <JohnFlux> pagan0ne: windows enables them and overrides the bios
[10:06] <JohnFlux> pagan0ne: linux doesn't
[10:07] <JohnFlux> pagan0ne: might want to double check your bios settings
[10:07] <genii> poison--: chmod XX   where XX is +x or +r or +w    or -x -r or -w
[10:07] <pagan0ne> JohnFlux: if windows is doing that, it would be the first time ive seen it, ill double check, but im 99% sure its enabled
[10:08] <JohnFlux> pagan0ne: it's well known that IBM etc laptops disable the bios ports in the bios for some reason
[10:09] <JohnFlux> pagan0ne: so that they work in windows (which turns them back on) but not in linux
[10:09] <pagan0ne> JohnFlux: custom built rig, with a gigabit mobo
[10:09] <JohnFlux> pagan0ne: one problem that I also had once..
[10:09] <JohnFlux> pagan0ne: turned out that a braille driver auto attaches to the serial port
[10:10] <pagan0ne> ill make sure thats off, thanks for the heads up there
[10:10] <JohnFlux> pagan0ne: I had to rmmod it
[10:10] <JohnFlux> pagan0ne: you need to get to the state where cat /proc/ttyS2  doesn't give errors
[10:10] <JohnFlux> pagan0ne: that means linux can't see it
[10:11] <JohnFlux> pagan0ne: you can try:   cat /proc/tty/driver/serial
[10:11] <pagan0ne> JohnFlux: ok,. ill see what i can do... maby it is a bios issue
[10:11] <JohnFlux> pagan0ne: that will sure you if it at least sees the UART
[10:11] <JohnFlux> the UART is the chip that does the RS232 talk
[10:11] <JohnFlux> pagan0ne: good luck
[10:12] <pagan0ne> when i cat /proc/tty/driver/serial i get 5 lines of text back, what am i looking for?
[10:12] <pagan0ne> JohnFlux: 0: uart:16550A port:000003F8 irq:4 tx:0 rx:0  ?? that means it sees it right?
[10:13] <poison--> ty genii
[10:13] <mbox> hi
[10:13] <poison--> still cant write nfo with smb on smb4k.lock :(
[10:13] <poison--> root@takedown:~# ls -l /var/lock/
[10:14] <mbox> is there a way, that after "unrar -x file.rar" the rar files get deleted if it got extracet OK?
[10:14] <poison--> total 4
[10:14] <poison--> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 835 2007-09-19 17:00 smb4k.lock
[10:14] <poison--> anitin wrong there?
[10:14] <JohnFlux> pagan0ne: on ttyS0 only
[10:15] <JohnFlux> pagan0ne: you want it presumably on ttyS3 etc
[10:15] <pagan0ne> JohnFlux: ok, well ttyS0 isnt listed in /dev
[10:15] <dASkreech> poison--: Hmm? Permissions?
[10:15] <poison--> yeap
[10:15] <dASkreech> soon: What is Full ?
[10:15] <JohnFlux> pagan0ne: oh hmm
[10:15] <JohnFlux> pagan0ne: i don't know
[10:15] <JohnFlux> ;)
[10:15] <poison--> think im gonna reinstall smb
[10:16] <soon> The package provided by Ubuntu does not include all, of the original OOo packages as far as I can tell
[10:16] <soon> I think I found the deb files here though : http://ftp.linux.cz/pub/localization/OpenOffice.org/devel/680/SRC680_m228/Build-1/
[10:16] <GuHhH> my apache always points to the same page, even if i use differents virtualhosts at different dirs... help please! apache2ctl -S -> http://apache.pastebin.ca/703753
[10:16] <pagan0ne> JohnFlux: any reason it wouldnt be listed? it starts at ttyS2
[10:16] <dASkreech> mbox: && rm file.rar
[10:17] <dASkreech> soon: What is missing?
[10:17] <dASkreech> hi ompaul
[10:18] <mbox> dASkreech: yeah but then i have to retype the filename everytime ... is thought more of a parameter ... man page does not help me ;(
[10:18] <soon> Im not exactly sure - I've uninstalled the Ubuntu package
[10:19] <ompaul> dASkreech, hi
[10:19] <poison--> brb
[10:19] <dASkreech> mbox: bash as a thing where you can reuse the last parameter
[10:20] <mbox> kkthx
[10:21] <dASkreech> mbox: try && rm !$
[10:23] <_osh> If I upload something through frost, the uploaded file does have some overhead put into persistent-temp, right? So how much does a file grow by?
[10:24] <_osh> If I want to upload 1GB, how much extra space do I need to convert and start the upload? 20% 50%?
[10:24] <_osh> Argh. Wrong channel.
[10:27] <flake> Hi, I just installed a SB Audigy SE for cheap, it works great after setting it as the default sound card
[10:28] <flake> I tried to play wolf et while having my music playing, but the sound is muted in ET.  Is there a way I can do both
[10:28] <flake> vlc is playing the music
[10:33] <dASkreech> !keys
[10:33] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at http://keytouch.sourceforge.net (GNOME) or https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys (KDE) - See !Keyboard for changing layouts
[10:43] <newbie> hi
[10:43] <newbie> does anyone know how to set up a webcam in linux
[10:43] <newbie> I have a logitech  quickcam pro 3000
[10:43] <newbie> and it doesnt seem to work
[10:43] <stdin> !webcam
[10:43] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[10:48] <DaSkreech> lo
[10:50] <dennis__> errr
[10:51] <dennis__> so who wants to walk me through this 3D problem with ATI
[10:52] <CappinItrebal> I'm trying to configure a printer to be shared via CUPs within my local network, but I can't actually log into the System Administrator's "Print Server" -> "Configure Server" dialoge ; I've added my user to the lpadmin group (the SystemGroup directive in my CUPS config file) and I still can't access it, I also gave root a password and tried that, but to no avail
[10:54] <jhutchins> CappinItrebal: 	http://tinyurl.com/3csnpd
[10:55] <CappinItrebal> aye, thanks
[10:56] <CappinItrebal> yarr, *tosses jhutchins a dabloon - talklikeapirate.com )
[10:57] <DaSkreech> denism_: Which ?
[10:57] <jhutchins> I am a pirate, from a long line of pirates.  My family was in Jamaica when there was no legitimate business in Jamaica.  By definition, the way I talk IS how a pirate talks.
[10:57] <jhutchins> arrrgg.
[10:58] <CappinItrebal> arrrgg
[10:59] <uga> okay... finally this is getting in shape
[10:59] <DaSkreech> Arrrrrr
[10:59] <CappinItrebal> arrg, this isn't working right.. *plays with it a touch more*
[11:00] <uga> now lets recover the home from my old disk
[11:00] <jhutchins> CappinItrebal: If that URL is still valid for Feisty, please let me know.
[11:00] <CappinItrebal> ok
[11:00] <uga> is it possible to hotplug an IDE drive? =)
[11:01] <DaSkreech> jhutchins: course that's actually true for me :)
[11:01] <DaSkreech> replacing politician with pirate but ... close enough
[11:02] <stdin> uga: nay, it not be sommin' yer be wantin' te do
[11:04] <CappinItrebal> aye, jhutchins: its worse - it just freezes now
[11:04] <CappinItrebal> doesn't let me even type in a password
[11:04] <ScorpKing> it's possible but not advised. i got a friend who hotplug his hd when he feels like it.
[11:04] <uga> stdin: I thought the channel was meant to be in english :P
[11:04] <jhutchins> CappinItrebal: arg, sounds like somethin' else be amiss as well.
[11:04] <stdin> it be english, aye
[11:05] <jhutchins> ScorpKing: I used to hot-patch 220 volt theatre lights - but I don't recommend it.
[11:05] <dappermuis> aye stdin, ol peg-leg day!
[11:05] <CappinItrebal> jhutchins: yarr, I'm going to reinstall kubuntu, matey, I've only had it for a few days (haven't done more than an hours work on them) and I've been screwing it up the whole time :P
[11:06] <jhutchins> CappinItrebal: easier to reinstall when it's not three years of settings and customization.
[11:06] <CappinItrebal> yep
[11:06] <CappinItrebal> and I figured if I messed it up this quickly, I'll have bigger problems later on :P
[11:07] <Kein> !adeptfix > Kein
[11:10] <viras> hello everybody
[11:10] <viras> join #compiz-fusion
[11:11] <stdin> viras: any reason?
[11:13] <cloakable> stdin: Because viras says so, apparently.
[11:14] <cloakable> hehe
[11:15] <stdin> to the plank with ye! :p
[11:16] <uga> stdin: I really can't understand how linux support can be so bad on recentish cpu and boards
[11:16] <uga> it took me ages to set this one up
[11:16] <uga> if I had not been using linux since 98, I'd have given up
[11:17] <cloakable> stdin: It wouldn't install :P
[11:17] <cloakable> Debian would. No contest :P
[11:21] <jhutchins> uga: You would think people would notice if they couldn't install it.
[11:21] <jhutchins> ...but no, they go blithely ahead and run it, using it on a daily basis, in offices and homes.
[11:25] <Karti> Hi all, just a quick one, anyone know of some good links/link for tutorials to create login screens and themes etc
[11:25] <uga> jhutchins: oh, they do. I've seen tons of forums commenting on teh bugs I just had
[11:25] <uga> jhutchins: and they aren't new. Rather oldish
[11:25] <uga> yet, unfixed even on the next gen versions
[11:26] <uga> jhutchins: its' not like the distros don't support the hw. It's just the installers are seriously broken
[11:27] <uga> jhutchins: notice it's not hw hard to boot up. Wen XP managed bot
[11:28] <uga> booting, no matter it bein gnew
[11:28] <uga> but the installer was unable to even find an ide cd-rom, where it's booting from
[11:28] <uga> and then the installer tries once and again using stupid framebuffer modes, even in safe graphics modes
[11:29] <jhutchins> You would think with so many people unable to install it without advanced knowledge there would be fewer people using it.
[11:29] <uga> jhutchins: there _are_ fewer peope using it
[11:30] <jhutchins> All going to Vista, are they?
[11:30] <uga> I installed linux on many people's boxes myself. They don't dare installing
[11:30] <uga> jhutchins: no, they hate vista, they use XP
[11:30] <dappermuis> Karti, the best way to learn is to study existing themes :D
[11:31] <jhutchins> uga: Fascinating.  What planet is this on again?
[11:31] <uga> jhutchins: I know it's hard ot make something work on all hw (rather, impossible), but... these bugs got identified and solved this same year
[11:31] <Karti> dappermuis: cheers, I'm generally happy with that but its the location and an idea of where to start,
[11:31] <uga> jhutchins: you ever go outside this channel?
[11:31] <uga> people do use windows, no matter what you think
[11:31] <jhutchins> uga: No, I'm just a bot.
[11:32] <uga> if do you, you sure know most don't ever think about linux
[11:32] <uga> and lots hate vista
[11:32] <uga> its' buggy as hell
[11:32] <dappermuis> Karti, what i've done in the past is to download a theme or whatever from kde-look.org and then try make sense of it - the configuration files generally tend to show locations, etc
[11:33] <uga> jhutchins: so far I've told many friends that they should try newest linux distros and that new machines will run fine
[11:33] <uga> now I don't dare. Really don't
[11:33] <jhutchins> Yep, soon linux will just be a memory and a hobby among old geeks.
[11:33] <DaSkreech> you don't dare?
[11:33] <Karti> dappermuis: Thanks, that where I am currently getting my inspiration from!
[11:33] <dappermuis> sorry to jump in so late, but uga, what new machines don't run linux?
[11:33] <uga> DaSkreech: after seeing myself in pain installing kubuntu? no, I don't
[11:33] <dappermuis> Karti :)
[11:33] <DaSkreech> uga: :)
[11:34] <DaSkreech> jhutchins: Though honestly installing is a pain for most people
[11:34] <DaSkreech> I know people who call the computer Word
[11:34] <uga> dappermuis: get an asus p5k board, plug the CD drive to the IDE, and have fun. No CD-Rom found... and... its' booting from CD!
[11:34] <jhutchins> DaSkreech: Well, some of the questions are a bid hard if you've never done anything but point-and-click
[11:34] <dappermuis> DaSkreech, imho its easier to install kubuntu than windows
[11:34] <DaSkreech> Yeah I've gotten that already/ That was fun
[11:34] <uga> dappermuis: the CD per se is supported, just the drivers aren't properly loaded
[11:35] <DaSkreech> dappermuis: Agreed too
[11:35] <DaSkreech> dappermuis: But we are talking about people who can't install windows either
[11:35] <uga> dappermuis: I had to install XP and dig for info on the net. I haven't installed windows on any of my boxes for the last 5 years
[11:35] <DaSkreech> They can barely install a program
[11:35] <dappermuis> uga, i see - though how often does that really happen? maybe in special cases it does, but im sure that it also happens on windows
[11:35] <dappermuis> SaSkreech, i see :)
[11:35] <jhutchins> Someone who had run linux before, or been around the linux community, might know that Asus boards are not known for good support.    Do you know what it exactly does?
[11:37] <jhutchins> uga: Yeah, so all those people with sata drives and CD's must be running XP, and only pretending to ask questions here about stuff like ATI video.
[11:37] <uga> loads all IDE modules?
[11:37] <ScorpKing> i had a ASUS P5PE-VM board and it worked fine with kubuntu
[11:37] <uga> jhutchins: sata drives and IDE CDs
[11:37] <jhutchins> Yeah, them.
[11:38] <dappermuis> uga, nope, don't know - but i'm sure google can tell you
[11:38] <mauri> when i download the upgrades, where are they located on the disk before to install them
[11:38] <uga> jhutchins: most don't even know what IDE is when they buy sata boxes ;)
[11:38] <jhutchins> Thousands of people every day.  How sad!
[11:38] <uga> jhutchins: you don't have thousands of people installing linux on a daily basis, anyway ;))
[11:38] <uga> dappermuis: google helps when you can boot the machine and get a network
[11:38] <dappermuis> lol - right
[11:38] <uga> dappermuis: and half the solutions were broken, and nobody on irc could help
[11:39] <uga> out of ... 400 people, nobody had a clue
[11:39] <uga> so... how many people really install linux on those kind of boxes=
[11:39] <uga> answer: nobody
[11:39] <jhutchins> Over 2000 people hit distrowatch's ubuntu page in the last thirty days.  They must be terribly disappointed that they can't install it.
[11:39] <uga> jhutchins: read up there...
[11:39] <uga> if people don't hit those bugs, is because they don't install linux on them
[11:39] <mauri> have the kubuntu a 3d desktop as vista?
[11:39] <uga> and they are pretty popular new boxes
[11:40] <jhutchins> Yeah, linux is doomed allright.
[11:40] <dappermuis> uga, it seems you experienced a problem which isn't too common
[11:40] <jhutchins> Might as well shut the channel down.
[11:40] <uga> jhutchins: dont' act like a jerk, please. I'm just saying that either people go nuts like me, or they don't bother installing linux. Because the bugs exist on new popular boxes
[11:41] <uga> and given half the results in google don't help, I believe they do go nuts
[11:41] <uga> dappermuis: I hope it's not that common, but the machine is ;)
[11:41] <uga> dappermuis: asus boards aren't exactly unpopular
[11:41] <dappermuis> uga, they're not exactly that popular either :)
[11:41] <uga> dappermuis: true that possibly people don't use IDE drives on them
[11:42] <uga> dappermuis: what do people use,... abit? =)
[11:42] <uga> somebody here told me that asus is one of the best supported boards... when I wanted intel ;)
[11:42] <jhutchins> Then again, it could just be that you happened to hit a problem you didn't understand, and it's not something that bothers the millions of other linux users in the world.  Lonely as that may seem, it's likely.
[11:42] <dappermuis> erm, intel boards?
[11:42] <uga> jhutchins: okay, my machine is unique  =)
[11:42] <jhutchins> uga: Coming in here and declaring ubuntu or linux a failure because you had a problem is pretty stupid.
[11:42] <uga> dappermuis: yes, they are rather robust. I've been running one for the last 3 years...almost 24h/7d, non stop
[11:43] <uga> jhutchins: I didn't say that
[11:43] <dappermuis> nice
[11:43] <jhutchins> uga: Sure sounded like it to me.
[11:43] <uga> jhutchins: I only said there's a known solution and I find it pretty silly that it's not being fixed
[11:43] <dappermuis> anyone ever used the OO.o solver tool?
[11:43] <jhutchins> uga: You said you couldn't recommend it and that everybody was using xP instead of linux - which we're obviously not.
[11:43] <ScorpKing> uga: check the IDE and SATA settings in the BIOS. play around with them and see what work.
[11:43] <jhutchins> uga: That's what faq's and wiki's are for.
[11:43] <dappermuis> ScorpKing :)
[11:43] <uga> jhutchins: I Said I couldn't recommend it on new boxes anymore, as I used to do
[11:44] <ScorpKing> hiya dappermuis! :)
[11:44] <jhutchins> uga: This is why you are not a journalist with a wide reputation.
[11:44] <dappermuis> ScorpKing, you enjoying the summer weather?
[11:44] <uga> jhutchins: nor I wanted to
[11:44] <jhutchins> over-generalization.
[11:44] <uga> journalists just write about what they used in the last 5 minutes on their old unused boxes
[11:45] <jhutchins> Yes, of course they do.
[11:45] <ScorpKing> dappermuis: it's great! one week in a row. it's warm enough to swim now :)
[11:45] <uga> jhutchins: I'm writing about what I had to do in the last 2 whole days, and knowing exactly what I was doing
[11:45] <jhutchins> Sorry, I'll stop baiting the troll.
[11:45] <dappermuis> ScorpKing, yes! i was even thinking of going to the beach today!
[11:45] <dappermuis> lol jhutchins
[11:45] <uga> jhutchins: troll? =)
[11:46] <uga> I thought I was a linux supporter and coder ;)
[11:46] <ScorpKing> dappermuis: the water is to cold in CT for me. lol
[11:46] <dappermuis> ScorpKing, lol
[11:47] <uga> jhutchins: btw, I requested yesterday somebody to add the issue to the FAQ, and I even contacted devs
[11:47] <uga> so no idea what FAQs are for, other than telling people how to use nvidia
[11:47] <ScorpKing> anyone here know something about gimp batch scripts?
[11:47] <uga> and btw, nvidia faqs dont' explain how to install nvidia drivers when there's no monitor
[11:47] <dappermuis> i wonder why people have so many problems setting up nvidia cards?
[11:48] <dappermuis> i'd never done it before and i set one up using the nvidia driver in about 2 mins without problems
[11:48] <uga> dappermuis: the main problem, at least for me, isnt' gfx card support. nv does mostly fine. Although somehow kubuntu chose vesa for mine
[11:48] <uga> I believe the problems come when your monitor doesn't support vesa modes
[11:48] <uga> ie, those lcd monitors that got only a couple possible resolutions
[11:48] <genii> uga: Incidentally my p5kse board came with linux source code for the sata/ide controller (it was on the system board cdrom)
[11:49] <uga> 791 does mostly
[11:49] <dappermuis> urgh, i've got a report to write
[11:49] <dappermuis> bbl
[11:49] <uga> genii: really? that's the one I have. The se.. and... what am I meant to do. Build from source code to install? =))
[11:49] <uga> I didn't bother checkign the CDs btw, thanks for the info
[11:50] <uga> genii: btw, did you run into similar trouble?
[11:50] <genii> uga: I first set mine up with controller in bios to be in compatible mode. then I booted to livecd, installed some essentials, compiled, saved to floppy. then I insmod the file from floppy during install from alternate.
[11:50] <ScorpKing> anyway, here is the gimp script i want to run but i don't think it will work. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37949/
[11:51] <uga> genii: uhm.. I didn't see any IDE compatibility modes :/
[11:51] <ScorpKing> uga: i think it's under one of the SATA options
[11:51] <uga> genii: anyway, nice to know there are other solutions
[11:52] <uga> I'll check next time I reboot
[11:52] <genii> uga: The other trouble i had was with stalling due to pcmcia trying to load i83265.ko
[11:52] <uga> oh, nothing like that here
[11:53] <uga> uhm... now that I remember.. I have to reboot to locate the old ide drive ..,
[11:53] <ubuntu> how do i change my resolution higher than 640 x 480 if thats as high as it will go in system ettings
[11:54] <ScorpKing> uga: in the BIOS. Main --> IDE Configuration --> Onboard IDE Operate Mode
[11:54] <uga> as it's only got one IDE interface... would you suggest having the disk or the dvd drive, as master?
[11:54] <uga> ScorpKing: thanks
[11:54] <genii> uga i normally put them in cable select with hd on end of cable. hd fails, cd becomes master.
[11:55] <uga> genii: okay, thanks
[11:56] <genii> uga: np
[11:56] <uga> brb. Rebooting
[11:59] <genii> ubuntu: you edit with admin privelege the xorg.conf file and add in some higher resolution combinations under the default depth area.
[12:00] <NickPresta> Greetings #kubuntu
[12:02] <genii> ubuntu: If your default depth is set to 24, look for a line with: Depth 24 and under similar to this: Modes           "1024x768" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"               where you add in another resolution in the same way you see there. Save the file, logout, restart the login manager by ctrl-alt-backspace, login again
[12:02] <jhutchins> ubuntu: You might need to install a different driver for your video card to get full resolution.
[12:02] <jhutchins> ubuntu: Do you know what card you have?
[12:02] <ubuntu> jhutchins:  i could find out
[12:03] <genii> jhutchins: Good point, also he may be using something like vesa
[12:03] <ubuntu> ill do what genii said first then that
[12:03] <jhutchins> 640x480 sounds like it.
[12:03] <genii> ubuntu: First, make a backup of that file
[12:04] <genii> ubuntu: then you have something usable to revert to in case it does not work
[12:04] <damian> hey guys i'm having trouble getting root priveledges in my account
[12:04] <damian> can anyone help me out?
[12:04] <ubuntu> genii: ok but im new at this, so i just searches xorg.conf and got 4 of them, where do i find this at?
[12:04] <NickPresta> damian, can you explain in greater detail what the problem seems to be?
[12:04] <NickPresta> !root | damian
[12:04] <ubotu> damian: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[12:05] <tekstacy> 'lo all
[12:05] <genii> ubuntu: The one we need is /etc/X11/xorg.conf    but as i stressed, make a backup first of it.
[12:05] <Doctor_Nick> yay
[12:06] <genii> ubuntu: eg, in konsole: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.back
[12:06] <tekstacy> I enabled password-less login, x is screwed up. Ho do I login to console without it trying to start x
[12:06] <tekstacy> ?
[12:06] <genii> ubuntu: then if you get stuck in text mode, you can do reverse the names but otherwise same command to revert the file.
[12:07] <ubuntu> k
[12:08] <genii> ubuntu: also if stuck in text ,after revrting the backup file do sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[12:09] <tekstacy> is there a way to login to the command line and re-install x-org drivers?
[12:10] <tekstacy> I don't want to re-install everything if I don't have to
[12:10] <genii> tekstacy: you can reconfigure the xorg server
[12:10] <NickPresta> tekstacy, to get to a console, hit control+alt+F1 (F1 through F6 should work). Then run `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg`
[12:10] <tekstacy> I can't get into the system, it starts up, then it goes blank
[12:11] <tekstacy> NickPresta, THANK you thank you
[12:11] <genii> tekstacy: If you know the answers to most of the questions about what driver and resolutions etc, you can do: sudo dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg          this will work even from Recovery mode. If you do this in recovery mode from text, do after    telinit 2    to start regular operation after
[12:12] <NickPresta> tekstacy, no problem. I would hate to see someone reinstall their whole system just because of a display problem :)
[12:12] <genii> tekstacy: Sorry, NickPresta had right, dpkg-reconfigure       rather :) But otherwise else there holds
[12:12] <tekstacy> geni, THANK you!
[12:13] <tekstacy> whew, my life was looking pretty bleak for a moment...
[12:16] <tekstacy> crap
[12:16] <tekstacy> it says package xserver.org is not installed
[12:17] <uga> heh, I ended up removing the DVD drive
[12:17] <tekstacy> isn't that something I need to run the window manager?
[12:17] <uga> the IDE cable won't reach to both the disk and dvd
[12:17] <uga> I think I'll end up buying some new sata dvdrw
[12:19] <tekstacy> oh, nevermind, stupid spelling error....DOH
[12:20] <Soulwarp> hi kubuntu buddies =)
[12:20] <ScorpKing> helo
[12:21] <tekstacy> what do you add to CL display output one page at a time
[12:21] <rrbiz> hello
[12:21] <tekstacy> er, "to display...
[12:22] <stdin> tekstacy: use   command | less     or    command | more
[12:22] <tekstacy> thanks
[12:22] <uga_> heh... never unplug the ups in teh way I did ;)
[12:23] <rrbiz> in gnome it shows the status of my UPS, in KDE it doesn't
[12:25] <tekstacy> ok, dpkg -reconfigure didn't work, it says conflicting opperators
[12:25] <NickPresta> tekstacy, no space
[12:25] <NickPresta> `dpkg-reconfigure`
[12:25] <tekstacy> oic, cool, thanks
[12:27] <waylandbill> rrbiz: I would think that APC notification on the desktop is an odd issue.  Err, I mean, APT!
[12:32] <BluesKaj> oops, wrong one
[12:32] <dappermuis> haha, yum
[12:33] <BluesKaj> !cookie | NickPresta & genii
[12:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cookie - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:33] <BluesKaj> dumb unco-operative bot
[12:33] <genii> BluesKaj: Heh
[12:34] <tekstacy> so, us new people bug you about stuff like that untill we learn enough that people start to bug us?  :)
[12:34] <tekstacy> the circle of life
[12:34] <BluesKaj> yup, that's about it
[12:35] <BluesKaj> I never stop learning new stuff here , tho
[12:36] <tekstacy> I'll prob spend an hour or so learning about the commands I was told to use....   :)
[12:37] <tekstacy> Sort of like it, reminds me of when I was a kid just getting into these things.
[12:38] <Ch1ppy> hey, I'm having trouble renewing my DHCP lease, can anyone help me out?