[17:18] <TehAndrewRyan> So, I've managed to send a command to a screen session via a bash command, but it doesn't send an enter stroke to actually execute it (I have to do it manually as of right now). How do I send an enter stroke to the screen?
[17:19] <SonikkuAmerica> caz: I'll be back in a sec... I'm looking at a shutdown issue
[17:19] <Nvveen> Okay, so Unity is fully supported still on my machine, according to /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test
[17:19] <prashant_123456> kristiyan, have data on usb stick that is /dev/sdb
[17:20] <caz> SonikkuAmerica, no problem, still there
[17:21] <kristiyan> prashant_123456: I assume sdb2 is where your important data located so this should work for you: mount -o loop /dev/sdb2 /home/<username>/Desktop (but before that unmount previous mounts)
[17:22] <mjuszczak> I need to do ipsec over l2tp in ubuntu. Can anyone recommend a way?
[17:22] <prashant_123456> from your above command what we are trying to do ? kristiyan
[17:22] <kristiyan> prashant_123456: mount partition2 (sdb2)
[17:23] <SunMoonStar> I'm trying to reinstall grub (something's wrong with my hd and I had to do fsck to fix it, but still I have no grub at bootup so I am on livecd) by following remmelt's instruction on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24113&highlight=grub+restore .. however, I can't figure out what to type for step 4 after "root (hd" ... can someone help?
[17:23] <prashant_123456> kristiyan, but we are having trouble with usb stick which is /dev/sdb
[17:23] <TehAndrewRyan> So, I've managed to send a command to a screen session via a bash command, but it doesn't send an enter stroke to actually execute it (I have to do it manually as of right now). How do I send an enter stroke to the screen?
[17:23] <Andre_designer> yeats: here is is my pastebin. hoping i do it right now http://paste.ubuntu.com/5562196/
[17:24] <jrib> TehAndrewRyan: how are you sending the command? Also, you may want to look at various "slime" scripts for things vim when being used with screen and tmux to see what they do
[17:25] <tongcx> is it possible to "chown" by uid?
[17:25] <SunMoonStar> how do i find out where my /boot is
[17:25] <jrib> SunMoonStar: /boot is a path.  What do you mean?
[17:25] <escott> tongcx, try it
[17:25] <SunMoonStar> jrib: I'm trying to reinstall grub (something's wrong with my hd and I had to do fsck to fix it, but still I have no grub at bootup so I am on livecd) by following remmelt's instruction on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24113&highlight=grub+restore .. however, I can't figure out what to type for step 4 after "root (hd" ... can someone help?
[17:25] <TehAndrewRyan> It's for a minecraft server running through a screen, I'm sending the command with "screen -S minecraft -X stuff <command>" jrib
[17:25] <milos__> hello, i need help, i installed ubuntu on my nootebook, now i cant access bios setup, tried everything with keys but nothing help
[17:26] <escott> SunMoonStar, what is the point of installing grub on a dying drive?
[17:26] <SunMoonStar> escott: so I can use it while I get a new one I guess
[17:26] <jrib> !grub | SunMoonStar
[17:26] <tongcx> escott: thanks
[17:26] <jrib> SunMoonStar: you can see the instructions there
[17:27] <milos__> hello, i need help, i installed ubuntu on my nootebook, now i cant access bios setup, tried everything with keys but nothing help, how i can enter bios?
[17:27] <tyson_> Hi, does any of you hold the key to sorting the updates on 12.04 server? if you do please help, thank you
[17:27] <milos__> hello, i need help, i installed ubuntu on my nootebook, now i cant access bios setup, tried everything with keys but nothing help
[17:27] <Physicist> Hello.. I want increase the font size of my login screen. later %hostname%, can I put the size like a command?
[17:27] <tongcx> if i transfer a file to a external drive, say now the file has uid 500, then i use this drive on another machine where 500 is mapped to no one, then this file doesn't have a owner?
[17:27] <Physicist> I am using Kubuntu...
[17:27] <Nvveen> Can anyone help with my problem? Unity-panel isn't starting at login. I can launch a terminal, hw acceleration works and other DEs run without problems, but even after a unity/ubuntu-desktop reinstallation does Unity do anything
[17:27] <jasunto> install ubuntu and boots to blinking cursor. nvidia gtx 580, had to use nomodeset to get live to boot to install
[17:28] <xsl> echo 32768 > /sys/block/md0/md/stripe_cache_size
[17:28] <xsl> -su: /sys/block/md0/md/stripe_cache_size: No such file or directory
[17:28] <xsl> can anyone help?
[17:28] <tyson_> milos__ : your problem is
[17:28] <Andre_designer> milos__ have  you try via usb??
[17:28] <TehAndrewRyan> jrib: I'm currently sending the command from the same computer as the one hosting the server for testing purposes. The idea is to have a different computer send the command
[17:28] <tyson_> milos__: UEFI
[17:29] <milos__> well how to find solution
[17:29] <escott> tongcx, no the file is owned by uid 500
[17:29] <milos__> now i cant boot w7 cd installation
[17:29] <tyson_> milos__: you need to press ESC when you start your notebook
[17:29] <Physicist> escott: Hello.. I want increase the font size of my login screen. later %hostname%, can I put the size like a command?
[17:29] <escott> tongcx, the username mappings in /etc/passwd are merely for convenience
[17:29] <jrib> TehAndrewRyan: if you are doing it that way why don't you just send carriage return as the last character?
[17:29] <tyson_> milos__: then go to boot option and try the other option
[17:30] <escott> tongcx, the security model is based on uid
[17:30] <tongcx> escott: so how do people keep uid sync across different machines?
[17:30] <TehAndrewRyan> jrib: How would I send a carriage return? :P I tried googling this issue, but seeing as I don't know Linux too well I don't know how to do it
[17:30] <escott> tongcx, you could centralize it with something like ldap
[17:31] <tyson_> milos__: a simple question, what do you want to do? do you want to re-install W7 or do you want to access you linux instalation?
[17:31] <escott> TehAndrewRyan, \n
[17:31] <tongcx> escott: aha, great, i will take a look
[17:31] <jrib> TehAndrewRyan: some discussion here if \n doesn't work for whatever reason: http://old.nabble.com/sending-CRLF-via-screen--X-stuff-td20433455.html
[17:31] <tongcx> escott: when you transfer file with scp, it will do the uid mapping for you because it knows who's logged in?
[17:31] <Guest6637> hi
[17:31] <TehAndrewRyan> escott: Doing that gives me "Invalid option" in the screen window
[17:32] <Physicist> jrib: Hello.. I want increase the font size of my login screen. later %hostname%, can I put the size like a command?
[17:32] <jerad> I just switched to ATT Uverse, 18 mbps, and consistently get full uptime while on Windows or any other computers... when I boot into Ubuntu it seems to wreck my entire router after a minute or two and my mpbs goes < 2
[17:32] <jrib> Physicist: I don't know about that
[17:32] <milos__> i want to reinstall w7, cause some courses on my college  require to have w7
[17:32] <SunMoonStar> jrib: help ? http://pastebin.com/SU7QkNRD
[17:32] <TehAndrewRyan> escott: Basically trying to send a "say" command right now (testing purposes) but it tells me it's an invalid option when I put \n at the end of the command
[17:32] <SunMoonStar> oops
[17:32] <SunMoonStar> i pasted the wrong thing
[17:33] <Physicist> Any way to increase the font size of login screen in Kubuntu??
[17:33] <tyson_> milos__: restart your notebook while you hold F8.
[17:33] <milos__> ok will try now
[17:33] <tyson_> milos__: it sounds to me like you have a ASUS
[17:33] <milos__> yes
[17:33] <milos__> k55vm
[17:33] <jrib> SunMoonStar: did you read the link ubottu gave you, it's a bit more complete than that forum post
[17:33] <tyson_> milos__: lol.....
[17:33] <SunMoonStar> jrib: http://pastebin.ca/2317101
[17:34] <SunMoonStar> jrib: what's the lock stuff?
[17:34] <tyson_> milos__: check you private messages
[17:34] <Physicist> I tryed something, but, apparently is impossible. I do not believe that is impossible..
[17:34] <Physicist> cannot..
[17:34] <SunMoonStar> jrib: oh it doesn't matter, i got boot-repair to run
[17:34] <escott> tongcx, scp runs on ssh which shares shells it it not a network filesystem
[17:35] <escott> tongcx, so there is a distinction there
[17:35] <SunMoonStar> jrib: unfortunately boot-repair does something on my old wubi instead of on the real linux partition
[17:35] <SunMoonStar> jrib: guess i have to do the other way
[17:35] <escott> tongcx, with NFS there is a process running as root on the server which accepts as input file objects complete with permissions and creates them as such
[17:36] <escott> tongcx, with scp there is an ssh server which spawns a shell like interface that accepts commands to create files from streams
[17:36] <plutonas> Hello I want to install skype, I followed a guide from ubuntu I found online, but it says it depneds on skype-bin which is not going to be installed
[17:36] <plutonas> what can i do?
[17:36] <plutonas> I run ubuntu 12.10
[17:37] <allie83> looking for some help with my flash...i have still pics but no video
[17:37] <allie83> have installed restricted extras and still no video
[17:37] <SonikkuAmerica> SunMoonStar: Apparently dpkg can't have exclusive mode on your Live image for some reason.
[17:37] <escott> tongcx, so with scp a new file is created by a user process with the corresponding users umask and uid. with nfs a root owned process creates a fully formed file that is handed to it (after sanity checking)
[17:38] <tongcx> escott: i see, in ssh there is a corresponding shell, while in NFS, it's more like a file server, right?
[17:38] <ZadYree> Hello here, I'm having a problem on Ubuntu 12.10, after some downgrading; I tried to reinstall kmod using apt-get, but I got an error message ("kmod : Depends: upstart-job")
[17:38] <tyson_> plutonas: what did you install it wih?
[17:38] <Physicist> seemingly, I will continue with the little font.. It is annoying. I mean.. so much!
[17:39] <SunMoonStar> On https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub Under the heading "the terminal way" it says to do sudo grub-isntall /dev/XXX where XXX is the device of the ubuntu install (eg: grub-install /dev/sdb)... this is my fdisk -l .. http://pastebin.com/ccqXVzM7 I have Windows partition on this hd too at sda1 and sda2 and my linux is sda4.. so do i do grub-install /dev/sda ?
[17:39] <escott> tongcx, there isn't actually a shell, but it acts as if there was
[17:39] <ZadYree> reinstalling upstart didn't help btw
[17:39] <plutonas> tyson_: I first tried sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install skype
[17:39] <plutonas> then it also appeared in that software store ubuntu has
[17:39] <plutonas> and i tried from there too
[17:39] <SpindizZzy> can anyone help with an ssh issue ?
[17:39] <SpindizZzy> i can ssh into my server from terminal
[17:39] <plutonas> ah sorry I first added a canonical repository
[17:39] <jrib> ZadYree: what did you downgrade?
[17:40] <escott> tongcx, it acts as if you ran ssh -c "/bin/bash > output.file" < input.file
[17:40] <allie83> help with flash???
[17:40] <jrib> !flash | allie83
[17:40] <SonikkuAmerica> SunMoonStar: Yes. You grub-install to the drive.
[17:40] <SpindizZzy> but not when i use the GNOME-'connect to server'
[17:40] <SunMoonStar> sonikkuAmerica OK thanks
[17:40] <allie83> have installed restricted extras already
[17:40] <SonikkuAmerica> SunMoonStar: Hopefully it'll autoupdate itself, but if it doesn't, [ sudo update-grub ] will fix it.
[17:40] <ZadYree> jrib, i downgraded the Ubuntu Version, from testing 13.04 to 12.10
[17:40] <tongcx> escott: thanks a lot, really helpful
[17:41] <jrib> ZadYree: you're probably better off just doing a fresh install, downgrading isn't supported and you're probably in a fairly broken state
[17:41] <tyson_> plutonas: ok, I don't know how confident you are with command line or SHELL.... but I would suggest you install all your software with the provided software such as software manager or package manager to avoid this trouble
[17:41] <ZadYree> yeah that's what I thought
[17:41] <SonikkuAmerica> SunMoonStar: When you do grub-install you always want to put it on the drive where Ubuntu will be.'
[17:41] <SunMoonStar> SonikkuAmerica: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[17:41] <SunMoonStar> Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
[17:41] <SunMoonStar> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[17:41] <ZadYree> Just wanted to know if I coul avoid that moment ;)
[17:41] <jrib> ZadYree: you might be able to hammer it out and get it to work, but fresh install is bound to be faster
[17:42] <plutonas> tyson_: ok, but even from there I get the same error as I said
[17:42] <SonikkuAmerica> SunMoonStar: OK, um...
[17:42] <Nvveen> Can anyone help with my problem? Unity-panel isn't starting at login. I can launch a terminal, hw acceleration works and other DEs run without problems, but even after a unity/ubuntu-desktop reinstallation does Unity do anything
[17:42] <ZadYree> ehe thanks for the advice
[17:42] <SpindizZzy> ssh ? anyone ?
[17:42] <SunMoonStar> SonikkuAmerica: my linux is on /dev/sda4 and my windows is on /dev/sda1 or 2 I think .. I just pasted what grub-install said though :\
[17:42] <allie83> ubottu: have been to this page and have done what it has said....
[17:42] <jrib> SunMoonStar: you need to pass some sort of argument... doesn't the wiki mention it?  One sec, let me look
[17:42] <SonikkuAmerica> SunMoonStar: Try [ sudo grub-install -v ]
[17:42] <Ephexeve_laptop> Hey guys, help! What to do here? apt-get ives me this -> http://bpaste.net/show/y1kigwhUcuSvuUhWWjDz/
[17:42] <apple314> Hy guys, first of all apologies because this is so off topic... But been googling for days... I lack the power of wlll, so bought a little safe with electronic lock... I was wondernig if anyone knows of a site of service where I could upload code, and access it only after a given amount of time. Yeah I know I'm lame, but at least I know it. Thanks in advance.
[17:43] <Physicist> !ssh | SpindizZzy
[17:43] <Ephexeve_laptop> I installed python 2.7.3 from source, now I messed it up, how can I fix it?
[17:43] <SunMoonStar> SonikkuAmerica: without anything after the -v ?
[17:43] <SonikkuAmerica> SunMoonStar: correct
[17:43] <jasunto> install ubuntu and boots to blinking cursor. nvidia gtx 580, had to use nomodeset to get live to boot to install
[17:43] <SpindizZzy> Physicist: been there, done that
[17:43] <SunMoonStar> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install -v
[17:43] <SunMoonStar> grub-install (GNU GRUB 0.97)\
[17:43] <SpindizZzy> :)
[17:43] <SunMoonStar> no slash at end
[17:43] <SpindizZzy> it's just a weird issue
[17:43] <SunMoonStar> I'm on live cd by the way
[17:44] <escott> tongcx, another way to think about this is that an NFS server need not have a filesystem on it. it could be backing the NFS share with a SQL database if it choose to. that would not make sense for an ssh server
[17:44] <SonikkuAmerica> SunMoonStar: That's for GRUB Legacy apparently... If the same thing happens, run a [ mount | tail -l ]
[17:44] <SonikkuAmerica> SunMoonStar: With the straight slash (Shift+\)
[17:45] <SunMoonStar> SonikkuAmerica: http://pastebin.com/m7Pgq9P5
[17:45] <tyson_> plutonas: private
[17:46] <SonikkuAmerica> SunMoonStar: So now, [ sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/tmp /dev/sda ]
[17:46] <sp00ky> is there a way to proxy all network traffic (not just browser traffic) in Ubuntu?
[17:46] <allie83> have installed restricted extras to try and fix flash issues and this hasn't helped...what am i missing?
[17:47] <allie83> i have pics but no video
[17:47] <jrib>  allie83 what is the actual issue?  Is your flash blue?  Is it not working at all? etc.
[17:47] <SunMoonStar> SonikkuAmerica: http://pastebin.com/SGSrgFgw
[17:47] <allie83> not working at all...just shows a black screen where a video should be
[17:47] <allie83> and cannot play any games on facebook
[17:47] <SonikkuAmerica> SunMoonStar: Good. Now reboot from the hard drive.
[17:47] <jrib> allie83: what browser?
[17:48] <SunMoonStar> SonikkuAmerica: thank you so much
[17:48] <SunMoonStar> jrib: thank you
[17:48] <allie83> jrib: firefox
[17:48] <SonikkuAmerica> SunMoonStar: Wait! Remember to run [ sudo update-grub ] after Ubuntu boots!
[17:48] <jrib> SunMoonStar: no problem; the wiki probably needs to be updated to say --root-directory should be passed
[17:48] <jrib> allie83: what does this site say about your flash version: https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[17:48] <Physicist> Oh... My leather is so soft. KDE is great.
[17:48] <Ephexeve_laptop> Anyone?
[17:49] <SunMoonStar> SonikkuAmerica: ok, and that is all?
[17:49] <jrib> !helpme | Ephexeve_laptop
[17:49] <tongcx> escott: em, makes a lot of sense, thanks
[17:49] <SonikkuAmerica> SunMoonStar: If you have problems, boot from live and come back.
[17:49] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: how did you mess it up?
[17:49] <bekks> Ephexeve_laptop: Anyone on what?
[17:49] <SunMoonStar> BTW, people told me my drive is failing as the cause of all these problems, there is no way to fix the drive right? i have to just buy a new one?
[17:49] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: Installing python from source
[17:49] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: how did you mess it up?
[17:49] <SonikkuAmerica> SunMoonStar: But that should be it... Unless it's an SSD, you might want to defrag...
[17:50] <allie83> jrib: i have the latest version 11.2
[17:50] <Ephexeve_laptop> I installed python from source. make install and thats it, for sure it overwrote the defalt python version
[17:50] <jasunto> does anyone have experience in getting 12.10 working with nvidia gtx-580. I cant even get it to boot to install nvidia-common
[17:50] <Ephexeve_laptop> and now I am broke
[17:50] <SunMoonStar> SonikkuAmerica: defrag the windows side? does linux have defrag too?
[17:50] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: what does this return: ls /usr/local/bin
[17:50] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: http://bpaste.net/show/EeCOskvRT0FlLoofqab4/
[17:51] <jerad> I just switched to ATT Uverse, 18 mbps, and consistently get full uptime while on Windows or any other computers... when I boot into Ubuntu it seems to wreck my entire router after a minute or two and my mpbs goes < 2... do you think it could be https everywhere? or some other add-on? i'm attempting turning on/off everything, but ideas of where to start are appreciated.
[17:51] <escott> SunMoonStar, no it is so rarely needed its not an implemented tool
[17:51] <SonikkuAmerica> SunMoonStar: You might check in Windows Disk Management (hit Win+R and type "diskmgmt.msc") or maybe run a CHKDSK
[17:51] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: so you've likely just installed it to /usr/local/ and not overwritten the apt version.  Why do you say it's broken?  And why are you compiling it at all?  Doesn't your ubuntu have python 2.7?
[17:52] <Ephexeve_laptop> not 2.7.3
[17:52] <Ephexeve_laptop> but when I do a apt-get -f install
[17:52] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: please keep your responses on a single line (and if you want my attention just prefix what you say with "jrib: ")
[17:52] <miguel_> [po\]\\
[17:53] <jasunto> anyone
[17:54] <mariah1993> http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080/sexy_ass
[17:54] <SonikkuAmerica> mariah1993: Not here.
[17:54] <artrei> hi, anyone know how to remove firefox webapp reddit launchpad?
[17:55] <SonikkuAmerica> artrei: From the launcher?
[17:56] <allie83> jrib?
[17:56] <jrib> allie83: one sec
[17:56] <SonikkuAmerica> artrei: Same way you remove an app from the launcher: Right-click and select "Remove from Launcher." Or from terminal: [ sudo apt-get {remove | purge} unity-webapp-reddit ]
[17:56] <allie83> thanks
[17:56] <SonikkuAmerica> artrei: *{remove | purge} means use either command but not both.
[17:57] <SonikkuAmerica> artrei: The latter completely removes the web app.
[17:57] <jrib> allie83: can you give an example of something that doesn't work?
[17:57] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: still there?
[17:58] <allie83> jrib: no video anywhere...youtube, facebook, sports pages, news...etc...just a black screen where a video should paly
[17:58] <allie83> play*
[17:58] <artrei> thanks SonikkuAmerica
[17:58] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: yes
[17:58] <caz> brb after reboot for DE test
[17:58] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: did you see my questions?
[17:58] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: yes, basicly I downlaoded the tar file, ./configure and then make -j
[17:59] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: so you've likely just installed it to /usr/local/ and not overwritten the apt version.  Why do you say it's broken?  And why are you compiling it at all?  Doesn't your ubuntu have python 2.7?
[17:59] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: so how is it broken?
[18:00] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: not broken, but when I triy apt-get -f install I get that warning
[18:00] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: what warning?
[18:00] <Ephexeve_laptop> so i am not sure if I should proceed
[18:00] <zorgs> hi
[18:01] <zorgs> I have a question about ubuntu server... or servers in general
[18:01] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: I pasted -> http://bpaste.net/show/y1kigwhUcuSvuUhWWjDz/
[18:01] <jrib> allie83: run "firefox -ProfileManager", create a new profile and see if video works there
[18:01] <zorgs> I'm looking for a set of best-practices in server administration for a production heavy duty web server
[18:02] <jrib> allie83: when you right click on the black screen where a video should be, what do you see?  Does it give you flash options?
[18:02] <zorgs> I've looked at books and all "beginning" sort of books are too beginner-ish, they explain basic concepts about linux and console commands...
[18:02] <bekks> zorgs: Do you fully understand those basic concepts?
[18:02] <zorgs> I already know that stuff, imagine you're an advanced linux-workstation user, but now want to learn a set of best practices when it comes to server administration
[18:02] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: apt doesn't know anything about your source install of python; what you've pasted can't be related to it
[18:03] <zorgs> bekks, pretty much
[18:03] <artrei> SonikkuAmerica, should i delete  /home/username/.local/share/applications/redditredditcom.desktop after i purge the unity-webapps-reddit?
[18:03] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: Hmm
[18:03] <zorgs> bekks, for example, what's a best practice, from security standpoint to set up multiple websites hosted on the machine
[18:03] <bekks> zorgs: Then you're better of with some detailed books about the software you are going to administer, like apache2, etc.
[18:04] <Trikee> Hi everyone, just a quick question im running ubuntu 10.10 i no its eol..just downloaded the new 12.04 wich i like very much, but my lap top seems to be running flatout all the time? but when i go back to 10.10 you cant even hear it workin.?
[18:04] <zorgs> bekks, like do I set up the www-roots for each website in their respective user's dir?
[18:04] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: have you installed any packages not from the official repositories?  Or enabled any unofficial repositories or repositories not meant for your ubuntu version?
[18:04] <allie83> jrib:right clicking does nothing for me
[18:04] <allie83> jrib:run firefox profile manager from terminal?
[18:04] <jrib> allie83: firefox -ProfileManager, create a new profile and try there; yes
[18:04] <SonikkuAmerica> artrei: The purge option alone should remove it, I think. I don't now much about web apps, because they're not available for Google Chrome yet.
[18:04] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: No
[18:05] <SonikkuAmerica> (I should switch to Chromium but it depends on Adobe's dead Flash for videos)
[18:05] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade.  What happens then?
[18:05] <zorgs> bekks, default for that is (in most distros) /var/www and then fork the sites from there, this gets complicated when I want different users to have access to different sites. apache user has to access that too. So what's the safest way... add apache process-owner to each user's group so it can access the roots and keep'em in user dirs.. that kind of stuff
[18:05] <zorgs> bekks, I see, apache docs would cover that.
[18:05] <zorgs> bekks, thanks, that helps
[18:05] <artrei> whats the best web browser for flash games?
[18:05] <zorgs> bekks, got any general recommendations though?
[18:06] <SunMoonStar> Since my HD is dying I want to get a new one. This is my mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128412 .. is there a certain type of HD that I have to get, or any internal HD is fine?
[18:06] <SonikkuAmerica> Trikee: Can you give me your laptop model, processor and graphics card?
[18:06] <bekks> zorgs: There are pretty good books about Apache2 e.g. - besides the best of it all: the official documentation.
[18:06] <nibbler> SunMoonStar: any is fine - if you are SATA already... which is standard for several years
[18:06] <Trikee> SonikkuAmerica ok will do..thanks
[18:07] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: http://bpaste.net/show/z1rTeOmaTd1RORz5nzBF/
[18:07] <zorgs> bekks, I am thinking about going nginx or lighttpd actually all right
[18:07] <zorgs> bekks, thanks
[18:07] <SunMoonStar> nibbler ok thanks
[18:08] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: « apt-cache policy python python-minimal python2.7-minimal » on pastebin
[18:08] <OerHeks> SunMoonStar, you have 6xSATA2 3Gb/s and 2x SATA3  6Gb/s
[18:08] <zorgs> bekks, if you want a safe production environment server distro of the debian fork, which would you pick?
[18:08] <SunMoonStar> OerHeks: oh.. which do i get ?
[18:08] <zorgs> actually this is a general question, any reason I should give something other than ubuntu server a look?
[18:09] <nibbler> zorgs: definately wrong channel to ask this question for an unbiased answer ;-)
[18:09] <OerHeks> SunMoonStar, a SSD is mostly Sata3 so you can choose any drive
[18:09] <SonikkuAmerica> Trikee: you there?
[18:09] <zorgs> nibbler, oh I'm biased towards ubuntu server too :) I like the desktop distro and documentation hah, fair point :)
[18:09] <SonikkuAmerica> nibbler: lol
[18:09] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: http://bpaste.net/show/FJJ5qQrSEKljRiWr2gKe/
[18:10] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: your python-minimal package isn't coming from the repositories
[18:10] <Alroy> How do I get the password and ip from remmina/libvnc?
[18:10] <excito> hello people. Loving my ubuntu experience - smooth,problem free and just generally different. Windows is out of question now. One question - I have these sudden slow downs(mouse becomes laggy etc) for couple of minutes. Not doing anything intesive and hardware shouldn\t be a problem. Is this normal?r
[18:10] <tongcx> why my umask has 4 digits, "0002"?
[18:10] <zorgs> excito, in one word, no, it's never normal
[18:10] <zorgs> excito, something is going on
[18:11] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: Hmm
[18:11] <jrib> tongcx: setuid, setgid, and sticky correspond to the first
[18:11] <excito> zorgs,is there any way to check what's happening. Some sort of event viewer?
[18:11] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: I think I installed from dpkg I downlaoded minimal from the repo of another version of ubuntu
[18:11] <OerHeks> SunMoonStar, i can point to hdd + prices, your hardware supports the latest technic
[18:11] <Ephexeve_laptop> and then dpkg -i package
[18:11] <SonikkuAmerica> excito: System Monitor
[18:11] <nibbler> excito: can you nopaste the output of free -m?
[18:11] <zorgs> excito, I can think of becoming familiar with monitoring tools as the best way to go about it... track it down and then deal with it
[18:11] <SunMoonStar> OerHeks: cool what specs do you need to know
[18:11] <Trikee> Sony Vaio vgn-fw11s | Intel Pro core duo cpu p8400 @2.26ghz | 4gig ram |  hope this helps
[18:11] <Alroy> I've checked remmina.pref but it's cryped.
[18:11] <tongcx> jrib: thanks
[18:11] <excito> nibbler, sorry I am completaly new. What should I do?
[18:12] <nibbler> excito: open a console (ctrl-alt-t), type "free -m" and copy/paste the output to
[18:12] <nibbler> !pastebin | excito
[18:12] <jrib> tongcx: at least I assume so.  That's what first digit corresponds to in stat output.  What's the context?
[18:12] <SunMoonStar> OerHeks: oh you are saying that I already have a good mobo. so, sure, I'm all ears to know what your suggestion is :)
[18:13] <SonikkuAmerica> Trikee: Is that Intel Core Duo or Core 2 Duo?
[18:13] <allie83> jrib: created a new profile as my name instead of default and same results: black screen where video should be
[18:13] <excito> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5562385/
[18:13] <Trikee> sorry its intel core 2 duo
[18:13] <OerHeks> SunMoonStar, choosing hdd is not really ontopic, join #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:13] <octocpp> Anyone know of a good channel to discuss AIDE configuration stuff?
[18:13] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: you should downgrade back down (or try to at least)
[18:14] <excito> does that give any indication to what's happening nibbler?
[18:14] <Alroy> I'd like to restore an old configuration from the remote desktop.
[18:14] <tongcx> in ubuntu, the default uid and gid is the same, and it uses my username as groupname, is there any reason for this, seems strange to me
[18:14] <nibbler> excito: it might or might not give indication
[18:14] <SonikkuAmerica> Trikee: Can you run [ uname -p ] in terminal?
[18:14] <zorgs> tongcx, what do you expect?
[18:14] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: Hmm how?
[18:14] <jrib> allie83: pastebin the contents of the page you get when you type "about:plugins" into the address bar
[18:15] <zorgs> tongcx, or, let me rephrase... "as opposed to what?"
[18:15] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: apt-get install PACKAGE=VERSION
[18:15] <nibbler> excito: ah, you pasted already, sorry didnt see. ok, so you do have swapspace - the behaviour you describe sounds a lot like out of memory error - do you hear heavy disk operations during this hangs?
[18:15] <caz> I'm back, logged in with both Unity DE or Gnome 3 DE, and still having these issues (in gnome). In Ubuntu, I don't have any window borders, any dock, anything on the desk. The only thing I can launch is a terminal which can open me what I want. And I don't have any close or minimize buttons on terminal or app windows oppened
[18:16] <Trikee> no i cant it says unknown,
[18:16] <excito> I wouldn't say so nibbler, but I can't be entirely sure. How would one go about increasing swapspace?
[18:16] <excito> just happened again now
[18:16] <SonikkuAmerica> Trikee: Unknown command?
[18:16] <tongcx> zorgs: so why not create a user with uid "mike" and gid "users"?
[18:16] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: http://bpaste.net/show/GKSVwnafyz8saCWmLtG8/
[18:17] <Trikee> just unknown
[18:17] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: right, but you need to specify the "=VERSION" part.  To find the version, look at the apt-cache policy output
[18:17] <DeliriumTremens> so i know i can ssh into a machine and run an application all in one command, is there a way to make the session auto-terminate when the application stops?
[18:17] <nibbler> excito: well, first you'd need to know if it is a problem caused by that - if the free -m output still looks alike (with plenty of MB in the free/buffers/cached column) it is not a out-of-memory issue
[18:17] <zorgs> tongcx, why would you want users to be the same group? the default position of every user being its own group is more secure
[18:17] <Alroy> Is it not possible to restore the old configuration? The hard disk is here and I have the password.
[18:17] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: also, the package is python-minimal, not python2.7...
[18:17] <SonikkuAmerica> Trikee: That's weird. It should say "x86_64" (I have a Core 2 in my machine)
[18:17] <nibbler> excito: if it was an OOM you would also see that in the output of the command "dmesg" in the console - near the bottom after a hang
[18:18] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: same error.
[18:18] <zorgs> tongcx, it's more of a windows standard
[18:18] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: pastebin
[18:18] <SonikkuAmerica> Trikee: That might be your problem: it doesn't appear to have determined what arch (i386, i686, x86_64, amd64) you're using...
[18:18] <zorgs> tongcx, where permissions work a little differently (on NTFS)
[18:18] <Trikee> im using my 10.10 at the moment not the new 12.04 will that have anyhting to do with it updates etc?
[18:18] <tongcx> zorgs: i see, just feel if there are 1000 users then there are 1000 groups is wasteful for groups :)
[18:18] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: http://bpaste.net/show/m0LjT1adYXGiHtCrL7qA/
[18:18] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: you haven't specified the version
[18:19] <zorgs> tongcx, naw man, it's not wasteful at all :) the group file with 1000 groups would be what... 100kb? that's almost nothing :)
[18:19] <glenn_> ho can help me to activate office 2010 by wine
[18:19] <SonikkuAmerica> Trikee: Try [ uname -i ] next. (I'll get back to what you said in a minute)
[18:19] <excito> nibbler, that's what dmesg brings - last couple of lines that is - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5562402/
[18:19] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: what is it? python-minimal2.7?
[18:19] <Ephexeve_laptop> doesnt find
[18:19] <tongcx> zorgs: i know, just syntax wasteful
[18:19] <Trikee> becouse its end of the line it gets no update or support any more?
[18:20] <glenn_> how had installed microsoft office 2010 and activated
[18:20] <zorgs> tongcx, well in *nixes that default position is kind of needed for privacy
[18:20] <nibbler> excito: my guess was bad then - no memory issues
[18:20] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: look at the apt-cache policy output (http://bpaste.net/show/FJJ5qQrSEKljRiWr2gKe/).  You see the versions listed there for python-minimal?  The *** one is the one  you have now.  And below it you see another version coming from your repositories
[18:20] <tongcx> zorgs: could you give an example why separate users like this is a good practice?
[18:20] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: though it may still fail if apt tries to configure the current version before downgrading.  But we'll cross that bridge when we come to it
[18:20] <zorgs> tongcx, on NTFS, a file can have many specific permissions, like you can give a couple of different users permission on one file/folder and they can be in the same group
[18:21] <zorgs> tongcx, for simplicity's sake, you only have owner and group permission sets on ubuntu
[18:21] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: python2.7-minimal? did that, sam error
[18:21] <allie83> jrib: i get links to google chrome...? should i switch to this browser?
[18:21] <Kurdistan> Hi can some one look to this do pict: http://i.imgur.com/tWmmUFM.png and http://i.imgur.com/weqL9gz.png . I think the bug is Compiz/Unity related.
[18:21] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: though it may still fail if apt tries to configure the current version before downgrading.  But we'll cross that bridge when we come to it
[18:21] <excito> nibbler, thanks for your help anyway. Are there any other console commands I should input just after the hang or programs to monitor,to possibly identify the issue?
[18:21] <zorgs> tongcx, and if every user was the member of "users" group, if the default group permissions were read-execute
[18:21] <caz> Any ideas?
[18:21] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: no.  apt-get install python-minimal=2.7.2-7ubuntu2 (sorry I hit up by mistake before)
[18:22] <Trikee> Sorry again unknown.
[18:22] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: same error
[18:22] <zorgs> tongcx, every user would be able to read and execute stuff from every other user, since they're effectively all members of the same user group called "users"
[18:22] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: pastebin
[18:22] <tongcx> zorgs: but if umask is 066, then that's fine, right?
[18:22] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: http://bpaste.net/show/pI5hXu6m5lKEWDajT83C/
[18:22] <SonikkuAmerica> Trikee: OK. Hold on one sec...
[18:22] <lhuang> hello, does anyone know how to get OpenGL to work?  I installed my ati drivers properly I think
[18:22] <jrib> allie83: when you visit "about:plugins" you get links to chrome?  You can try chrome if you want, it's a good browser
[18:23] <allie83> jrib: am installing it now and will let you know how it goes
[18:23] <allie83> suprie1983...are you still out there?
[18:23] <zorgs> tongcx, yes, you can remove all group permissions and it's fine
[18:23] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: grab the .deb then from packages.ubuntu.com for example (you need to grab python-minimal version 2.7.2-7ubuntu2 for your ubuntu version exactly).  Then use dpkg on that
[18:24] <zorgs> tongcx, just impractical, if anyone forgets or typos the mask, it's a liability I reckon that's enough...
[18:24] <tongcx> zorgs: i see the point, the current practice is more flexible
[18:24] <nibbler> excito: hard to tell... the whole screen freezes you say? top and htop might be helpfull, aswell as dstat to monitor what you system is doing while its freezing
[18:24] <Prolac> hi, does the number in htop memory bar shows how much memory is used or how much is left?
[18:24] <zorgs> tongcx, and has no real downside...
[18:24] <zorgs> tongcx, unixes are extremely scalable by design
[18:24] <tongcx> zorgs: also, the default permission for others is r--, is this an issue?
[18:25] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: also pastebin « apt-cache policy python-minimal » again since something looks strange to me
[18:25] <zorgs> tongcx, if you come from windows, having a lot of something usually means it will bog the system down eventually... if it's a workstation
[18:25] <zorgs> tongcx, so I understand your instincts
[18:25] <mtx_1980> hi ppl
[18:25] <zorgs> tongcx, they're justified
[18:25] <mtx_1980> need help
[18:25] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: Alrady did, installing http://bpaste.net/show/XuODgIMz7tQq0FxD53en/
[18:25] <excito> nibbler, the thing is - the system is usable but it's very stuttering - the mouse is jerky etc for that one minute,until it goes back to normal. This even happens if I were to be just typing in open office
[18:25] <zorgs> tongcx, that makes it readable
[18:25] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: ah wait, your local install may now be messing you up :)
[18:25] <Prolac> for example 30/244 - does it mean that 30 megabytes are used or left?
[18:25] <tongcx> zorgs: but then everyone can read my files?
[18:26] <mtx_1980> need to install skype, doont appear in software center
[18:26] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: aham..
[18:26] <tongcx> zorgs: why that's a good thing?
[18:26] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: right, so ignore the advice before about grabbing the .deb.  But you do need to get rid of your python that you installed to /usr/local/ apparently
[18:26] <nibbler> excito: open 3 terminals, one with "htop" running and one with "dstat 10" - after/during the next hang nopaste the outputs
[18:26] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: how?!
[18:26] <zorgs> tongcx, depends on the system, what are you talking about here, your workstation?
[18:26] <Ephexeve_laptop> no make uninstall
[18:26] <zorgs> tongcx, or a server that servers 100s or 1000s of users?
[18:27] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: you can try "make uninstall" in the directory where you did "make install" before.  If that doesn't work, then you'll have to manually delete what got installed to /usr/local/
[18:27] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: cant i just make install | xarg rm ?
[18:27] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: no
[18:27] <glenn_> how have installed microsoft office 2010 by wine
[18:28] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: oh god..
[18:28] <alen_> Dumb Question, how do I make this letter on my keyboard?: |
[18:28] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: how will I do that?!
[18:28] <ZadYree> Ah, I'm about to reinstall the system but one thing first: I'm planning to keep the /home directory, but is the fact I'm using cryptsetup bothering for the reinstallation?
[18:29] <excito> thank you nibler, I've set it up and will let you know the results once the system freezes
[18:29] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: though getting rid of the stuff in /usr/local/bin is probably enough to get your system to stop using the version in /usr/local.  You'll just have other cruft in there wasting space.  One other option is to install it again but this time use checkinstall (which creates a dumb .deb) and then remove the custom .deb
[18:29] <SonikkuAmerica> Trikee: Well that doesn't help us. Are you running 32- or 64-bit 10.10?
[18:29] <lhuang> I'm having issues with my ati drivers, OpenGL doesnt work.
[18:29] <tongcx> zorgs: my workstation
[18:29] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: this is one reason why people use package managers :)
[18:29] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: checkinstall make install?
[18:29] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: I never used ubuntu, gentoo guy here
[18:29] <Ephexeve_laptop> so yeah...
[18:29] <Ephexeve_laptop> source guy..
[18:29] <alen_> How do I scroll chat in lrssi? It won't let me in my terminal ._.
[18:30] <zorgs> tongcx, it's usually necessary for system processes that are not affiliated with your user's group to have access to your files. Unless you started it, it won't run as your user process but as a process whose owner is another normal user (not root), so it wouldn't be able to access your personal stuff that way.
[18:30] <DJones> alen_: page up/down buttons if you mean irssi
[18:30] <alen_> Ty!
[18:30] <Kurdistan> :( No one that knows whats effecting this bug?
[18:30] <requiem1> lhuang: have you tried the proprietary drive for ati?
[18:30] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: I cannot use checkinstall because no module named operator!!!
[18:30] <Ephexeve_laptop> Oh this will be impossible
[18:30] <Trikee> SonikkuAmerica This is a screen shot of the driver in 10.10.http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/4987/screenshot1wan.png..but when i open this in 12.04 its all just blank?
[18:31] <lhuang> requiem1:  Yes, I'm pretty sure it installed properly
[18:31] <alen_> proprietary driver? good goy..
[18:31] <SonikkuAmerica> Trikee: Is this Xubuntu?
[18:31] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: why don't you just start by deleting the stuff that ended up in /usr/local/bin from your custom python 2.7.3 install?
[18:31] <zorgs> tongcx, like if you run a web server system service, it will be owned by a special user, generally "www" or something, depends on distro
[18:31] <Trikee> ubuntu
[18:31] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: then focus on getting apt back in order
[18:31] <teslas_moustache> 12.04 boots to black screen after kernel update.
[18:31] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: becaue I dunno what to delete!
[18:32] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: what do you have in /usr/local/bin that you want to keep?  Delete the complement.
[18:32] <lhuang> requiem1, when I try to install something in Crossover it tells me OpenGL doesnt work
[18:32] <zorgs> zorgs, if you want it to make some local content available (generally this is what a web server does), it won't work if you want it to access stuff in your user folders
[18:32] <zorgs> oops
[18:32] <zorgs> tongcx, if you want it to make some local content available (generally this is what a web server does), it won't work if you want it to access stuff in your user folders
[18:32] <SonikkuAmerica> Trikee: (Different GNOME 2 skin then.) Anyway, your AMD/ATi driver may not be supported in Precise (12.04)
[18:32] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: you say remove everything?
[18:32] <lhuang> requiem1, when I've installed games and stuff it will install but wont run
[18:33] <tongcx> zorgs: i see, very helpful
[18:33] <zorgs> tongcx, you'd have to copy it into a dir that the www user can read, like its own default /var/www/ tree
[18:33] <zorgs> tongcx, this may seem unnecessary too
[18:33] <SonikkuAmerica> !ati
[18:33] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: everything in /usr/local/ is from things outside the package manager.  You installed them manually
[18:33] <feequilty> search french
[18:33] <zorgs> tongcx, but the reason for this is, if your web server is somehow exploited so it executes some mailicous code
[18:33] <Trikee> Thats what im thinking? Is that any thing i can do?
[18:33] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: ok, done deleted
[18:33] <SonikkuAmerica> Trikee: Pastebin the output of [ sudo lshw -C video ].
[18:33] <zorgs> tongcx, that code can do stuff that the www user can, since the www user is the owner of the process
[18:33] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: try "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[18:33] <zorgs> tongcx, there's only so much damage it can do... not that much
[18:33] <zorgs> tongcx, if it can't access your user files
[18:34] <zorgs> tongcx, or it only has "r--" access
[18:34] <feequilty> french personn on the tchat ?
[18:34] <zorgs> tongcx, can't really screw you over by deleting your stuff or changin it now can it? :)
[18:34] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: http://bpaste.net/show/k1PzqgTxfPHRycgiZv4K/
[18:34] <Trikee> Ok i will try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto
[18:34] <DJones> !fr | feequilty
[18:34] <glenn_> how can help me with office 2010 and wine
[18:34] <allie83> jrib: chrome keeps having to "kill page" not to inpressed...anything i could do at all to try and restore firefox...remove then re-add adobe and flash...any ideas?
[18:34] <SonikkuAmerica> !wine | glenn_
[18:34] <tongcx> zorgs: for secrete data, i probably want '---', right?
[18:35] <excito> nibbler, this sounds like an issue I am experiencing,and it also has a fix - http://souriguha.wordpress.com/2011/03/08/how-to-solve-problem-with-thinkpadkslowd-kworker-on-linux-kernel-2-35-2-36/ Of course atm I am running 3.5.0 kernel - would the fix be still valid?Just don't want to crash the system
[18:35] <zorgs> tongcx, yeah of course, note that this works for local processes, if you don't allow access to your machine, having stuff readable doesn't matter...
[18:35] <jsn> What's a good room for bind9 questions? I did an update and now my bind9 is no longer working.
[18:36] <jsn> Here is _all_ I can see from the logs: http://pastebin.ca/2317110 (bind9 isn't starting)
[18:36] <jrib> allie83: did you get a chance to pastebin that about:plugins info?
[18:36] <tongcx> zorgs: em, thanks a lot, really clearified my mind
[18:36] <zorgs> tongcx, I mean it won't make it readable to anyone. Just anyone LOCAL on your machine. Which nobody other than you... and maybe a server that you're running. Still, extra security precations are always good.
[18:37] <zorgs> tongcx, glad to be of help
[18:37] <SonikkuAmerica> Trikee: If you pasted it I missed it.
[18:37] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: any clue?
[18:37] <Trikee> SonikkuAmerica Hope this helps http://pastebin.com/Lzj9J3Pz
[18:37] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: not yet.  Looking at what causes this
[18:38] <Ephexeve_laptop> basicly dpkg needs python
[18:38] <Ephexeve_laptop> and the python I installed didnt bring _struct with it
[18:38] <musixauce3000> Greetings Ubuntu community!
[18:39] <allie83> jrib: about=plugins i get a google search result page
[18:39]  * jsn admonishes himself for not giving greetings.
[18:39] <SonikkuAmerica> Trikee: So it's a Mobility Radeon HD 3400. There are known issues with the prop driver starting with !Oneiric.
[18:39] <nibbler> excito: sounds good, you won't crash anything there i guess. just do the step from 7. and test it, if its working make it permanent like described in 9.
[18:39] <teslas_moustache> anyone have an idea of how to fix this? 12.04 doesn't boot after kernel update to 3.5
[18:39] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: well dpkg doesn't need python afaik but it is trying to configure the python-minimal package and part of that involves importing _struct but it can't find it, yes.  It isn't using the python you installed anymore though
[18:39] <jrib> allie83: : not =
[18:39] <excito> thank you nibbler,how does one 'make myself root though?'
[18:39] <zorgs> i'm out cheers every1
[18:39] <musixauce3000> lol jsn. I was wondering if this is the location where I might procure some help for myself
[18:40] <nibbler> excito: sudo -i
[18:40] <excito> nibbler: 'open shell(terminal I suppose?) and become root
[18:40] <jsn> I have a tricky startup error with bind9. There is no error message, so nothing to google for. The startup logging just stops. Oh, strace! Duh.
[18:40] <excito> thank you
[18:40] <jsn> musixauce3000: It can be helpful.
[18:40] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: Hmmm
[18:40] <Ephexeve_laptop> damn..
[18:40] <allie83> jrib: sorry ...what am i looking for here?
[18:40] <musixauce3000> I have scoured the internet and found some pretty in depth and helpful blogs on the subject, but non of them seem to really address the issue I'm having
[18:40] <jrib> allie83: you are pastebinning what you see
[18:41] <allie83> jrib:how do i pastebin?
[18:41] <jrib> !pastebin | allie83
[18:41] <Trikee> Oh ok..So what do you suggest,? i move to another distro?
[18:41] <jsn> Hmm, strace doesn't work so well when starting named in a chroot jail, let me try without the jail.
[18:41] <SonikkuAmerica> Trikee: You might cut to a different DE, something that's less graphics-intense, such as Xubuntu or Lubuntu.
[18:42] <jerad> !repeat
[18:42] <SonikkuAmerica> Trikee: To do that just grab an ISO, burn it to disc or USB, and select "Upgrade to {X|L}ubuntu 12.04 LTS"
[18:42] <Trikee> SonikkuAmerica Ok, thanks for your time.
[18:43] <SonikkuAmerica> Trikee: You're welcome! Enjoy Ubuntu!
[18:43] <excito> nibbler: thank you for the help. Hope this works,I inputed the cmd and will see how it works. Should it say anything(i.e. do in the terminal or respond with e.g. - something changed or done) after i've pasted the cmd?It just seems to return me to the non-root possibility of writing something
[18:44] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: no solution right?
[18:44] <nibbler> excito: no, you just wrote some text into a virtual file that controls kernel behaviour.... to output there...
[18:44] <maitake> Trikee.. maybe try a minimal cd install and then install a desktop environment?
[18:44] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: what's happening now when you run "python"?
[18:44] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: I enter the shell of 2.7.3
[18:44] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: can you do "import _struct"?
[18:45] <excito> nibbler: perfect,hope I see no more of the hangs. If so,will make it permanent as you said. Thanks a lot,much appreciated from a newly converted windows user :)
[18:45] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: wait, 2.7.3?
[18:45] <nibbler> excito: but you should be root still afterwards (exit to leave) - you might see something in dmesg that confirms the action, but if you don't get an error, it basically means success
[18:45] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: Yeps
[18:45] <Ephexeve_laptop> I overwrote the stuff from 2.7.2 man
[18:45] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: what's the output of "type python"?
[18:45] <nibbler> excito: welcome
[18:45] <musixauce3000> Well... the problem I'm having is that I can't seem to get sound to play through my HDMI port.
[18:45] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: python is hashed (/usr/bin/python)
[18:45] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: so you passed some arguments to ./configure?
[18:45] <allie83> jrib:sorry have never done this before what am i to send you so you can see what im seeing? sorry newbie of sorts
[18:45] <jrib> allie83: just select all the text and put it up on pastebin
[18:46] <allie83> jrib: have done that
[18:46] <jrib> allie83: now you give the link here
[18:46] <excito> nibbler: yep,just checked - still root after the cmd. thanks
[18:46] <musixauce3000> As I said I've already followed instructions from several blogs and troubleshooting pages but I still can't get mine to work
[18:46] <miszczo> hello i have problem witch resolution on ubuuntu 12.10 witch nvidia driver. I have only 1920x1200 in my ibmt61p. I would like to have 640x480 to play counter strike?
[18:46] <allie83> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5562484/plain/
[18:46] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: first time I did make install adn that's it, second time when configuring (because the first gave me an error, I did) ./configure --prefix=/usr --enable-shared
[18:47] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: ah, ok, then that's bad.  Yes, you overwrote it by doing that.  I didn't realize you had installed it twice
[18:47] <musixauce3000> This blog got me the closest to resolving the issue I've been, but alas it did not solve it
[18:48] <musixauce3000> http://jaysdesktop.blogspot.com/2011/10/enabling-hdmi-audio-out-in-ubuntu-1004.html
[18:48] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: exactly
[18:48] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: So no way to fix this?
[18:48] <jrib> allie83: well I don't what the issue would be.  Seems like you're using adobe's flash
[18:49] <allie83> jrib: and i've gotten all the automatic updates since install too...so that's why i'm lost :S
[18:49] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: you can try reinstalling all the base python packages at once I guess.  No idea if it will work
[18:50] <jrib> allie83: it used to work?
[18:50] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: how's that?
[18:50] <allie83> jrib: no i haven't had any video since i installed ubuntu...what did i miss?
[18:50] <jrib> allie83: what video card do you have?
[18:51] <allie83> not sure
[18:51] <jrib> allie83: lsusb | grep -i vga
[18:51] <shwouchk> hello
[18:51] <means> Hello. How can I bind some key to disable a set of other keys?
[18:52] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: maybe something like: apt-get install --reinstall python python2.7 python-minimal python2.7-minimal # I'm fairly doubtful this will work though
[18:52] <shwouchk> Is there an event somewhere for the insertion or removal of a screen?
[18:52] <allie83> jrib: as sudo in terminal?
[18:52] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: Nop, the same
[18:53] <Inoki> Yo all, can anyone recommend a desktop environment that has the best peripheral management? To be exact, I need to get mouse acceleration properly working, i.e. real fast.
[18:54] <Hwkiller> Inoki: any of them should do fine
[18:54] <SolarisBoy> Inoki: unity allows control of acceslleration/sensitivity of mouse
[18:54] <Hwkiller> or you can use xset 1 1
[18:54] <Inoki> Hwkiller: well, Xfce doesn't.
[18:54] <SolarisBoy> Inoki: open dash and type mouse
[18:54] <Hwkiller> er, xset m 1
[18:54] <SolarisBoy> oh yea =)
[18:54] <Inoki> sorry, forgot to add I'm using Xfce 4.10 currently, but tried many settings all of which to no avail.
[18:55] <means> Hello. How can I bind some key to disable a set of other keys? Or how to bind mouse action to disable certain keys?
[18:55] <alen> the friends at debian told me that ubuntu sells my information to amazon, is this true?
[18:55] <Inoki> hence looking for a DE that has peripheral management that actually works.
[18:55] <Hwkiller> Inoki: quickly change mouse accel in terminal with: xset m 1 1
[18:56] <Hwkiller> but both gnome and kde work
[18:56] <Inoki> Hwkiller: so you suggest to install Unity over XFCE 4.10?
[18:56] <alen> does Ubuntu collect my data and sel to amazon?
[18:56] <Hwkiller> dude, it's up to you. I think if all you want to change is your mouse accel, then just run the command I gave you, lol
[18:57] <SolarisBoy> xset sounds pretty good to me - then you can run whatever DE you want right?
[18:57] <SolarisBoy> xset should work
[18:57] <allie83> jrib: i enter that command and brings me back to prompt...it tells me nothing about my video card...no info
[18:57] <Hwkiller> yup
[18:58] <Hwkiller> xset m [multiplier] [threshold]; xset m 1 1 means "multiply it by 1, after going 1 pixel", or "no accel"
[18:58] <DJones> alen: No it doesn't send your information to Amazon
[18:58] <shwouchk> Hello
[18:58] <Hwkiller> alen: and if you're concerned, you can remove the amazon shopping lens
[18:58] <Inoki> Hwkiller: I'd need it real speedy.
[18:58] <jrib> allie83: sorry, I meant lspci
[18:58] <shwouchk> What event can I use to detect a monitor being (un)plugged?
[18:58] <Hwkiller> Inoki: so change it to something like xset m 2 1
[18:58] <Hwkiller> twice as fast, always
[18:58] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: did nothing happen?
[18:59] <Inoki> Hwkiller: I'll try, thanks! :)
[18:59] <Hwkiller> or xset m 10 5; multiply speed by 10 after going 5 pixels in one second
[18:59] <alen> I'm concerned about it because at the debian channel the claims were loud that they do so
[18:59] <Hwkiller> (I think it's per second; can't remember)
[18:59] <alen> i have no idea how to remove the shopping lens D:
[18:59] <Hwkiller> ah
[18:59] <DJones> !adlens | alen
[18:59] <allie83> jrib: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] (rev a1)
[18:59] <Hwkiller> alen: sudo apt-get remove unity-lens-shopping
[18:59] <alen> thx!
[19:00] <Hwkiller> np
[19:00] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: Nothing..
[19:00] <jrib> !nvidia | allie83
[19:00] <Inoki> Hwkiller: one last thing, what are the default values, should I want to go back?
[19:01] <Hwkiller> Inoki: not sure; I always just disable accel altogether.
[19:01] <allie83> jrib: will this link from the bot help?
[19:02] <Inoki> Hwkiller: and you do that by typing xset m ? ? I think it's disabled by default. When I ran xfconf it has shown mouse accel at 0.000.
[19:02] <alen> I recently installed Archey for ubuntu and made it start up with the opening of a new terminal, each time I get following error followed by regular archey though: df: `/root/.gvfs': Permission denied
[19:02] <alen> what do
[19:02] <ikonia> alen: you shouldn't be running as root
[19:02] <Hwkiller> Inoki: I don't know! lol; I think it resets when X resets
[19:02] <alen> aw damn
[19:02] <Hwkiller> dunno what the default values are
[19:02] <Inoki> Hwkiller: :D Ok :D
[19:02] <jrib> allie83: if you haven't installed your drivers from nvidia, it may
[19:03] <alen> Any tip on how to not run it as root? it's really annoying to see it pop up each time
[19:03] <alen> alen@ubuntu:~$ df: `/root/.gvfs': Permission denied
[19:03] <ikonia> alen: what have you done to your machine
[19:03] <ikonia> alen: why have you got mounted file systems as root
[19:03] <ikonia> (user space mounted)
[19:04] <allie83> jrib: use nvidia current?
[19:04] <alen> I installed archey and followed some commands from the website to install it D:
[19:04] <ikonia> alen: .gvfs isn't anything to do with archy
[19:04] <ikonia> alen: I suggest quicly rebooting and testing df again
[19:04] <Hwkiller> are you running a gnome sessions as root?
[19:04] <Hwkiller> session*
[19:04] <Hwkiller> (unity)
[19:05] <efuse> hey
[19:05] <alen> ok will do thanks ikonia brb
[19:05] <efuse> is there a less 'thick' version of unity, for situations where screen space is at a premium?
[19:05] <ikonia> efuse: unity just has a side bar...nothing more
[19:05] <ikonia> how much less than that do you want ?
[19:06] <efuse> yes, and it takes up a ton of space
[19:06] <efuse> i want it to be as thin as cinnamon
[19:06] <SolarisBoy> and you can change the size of the icons which makes it slimmer
[19:06] <ClientAlive> I have a problem with evolution mail. The color of the highlight bar (when email items are highlighted) as well as header information in the displayed email is black and the text can not be read in these areas (information in the to, from, and subject fields). I have looked in Edit > Settings but don't see anything to do with editing the appearance. It is the only application on this machine that does that. The other applications appear
[19:06] <ClientAlive> fine.
[19:06] <ikonia> efuse: set it to auto hide
[19:06] <ClientAlive> What can I do?
[19:06] <Disk1of5> hey all, hope some one can guide me in the  right direction, i have a dual monitor setup.. i have had for years since ubuntu 5.10 and i have always used Twinview i hear that nvidia is phasing that out in favor for Randr support.. just wondering im using nvidia 310.14... can just disable twinview and using something else now?...
[19:06] <SolarisBoy> word
[19:06] <efuse> i don't want it hidden, i want it visibible and thin
[19:06] <ikonia> ClientAlive: have you changed themes ?
[19:06] <SolarisBoy> efuse: install myunity and make it thin then
[19:06] <ClientAlive> ikonia: in fact I did
[19:06] <efuse> myunity does it? thanks.
[19:06] <SolarisBoy> i think you can also do it from appearance tab too
[19:06] <ikonia> ClientAlive: probably a theme problem then, put it back to normal
[19:06] <SolarisBoy> without installing anything else - it's icon size afaik.
[19:06] <ClientAlive> it's currently that kde gorilla thingy
[19:07] <SolarisBoy> ew
[19:07] <ClientAlive> ikonia: and if I like my theme?
[19:07] <feno70> hi
[19:07] <ClientAlive> ikonia: is there any way to edit parts of the theme?
[19:07] <ikonia> ClientAlive: talk to the person who made the theme and ask them to fix it, or learn how the theme works
[19:08] <alen> ikonia
[19:08] <ikonia> alen: yes ?
[19:08] <ClientAlive> Can anyone explain how themes in ubuntu 12.04 work?
[19:08] <alen> It fixed itself, thanks a lot :D
[19:08] <alen> just with restarting
[19:08] <ClientAlive> Is it possible to edit parts of a theme?
[19:08] <ikonia> ClientAlive: they are a set of files with basically a theme file that acts the same as a css
[19:08] <SolarisBoy> ClientAlive: thats probably a deep topic for this generic channel
[19:09] <ikonia> ClientAlive: it's well documented on the kde website (I assume you're using kde based on your kde theme comment earlier)
[19:09] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: can you pastebin?
[19:09] <alen> What is you guys opinion on Chromium?
[19:09] <ikonia> ClientAlive: there are also docs on the ubuntu wiki
[19:09] <ClientAlive> SolarisBoy: ikonia: ok. Well I thought maybe there were settings (gui frontend way).
[19:09] <ClientAlive> grrr
[19:09] <Disk1of5> can some one help me out with Twinview.. do i still have to use it for proper dual monitor support in ubuntu 12.10 with the nvidia 310.14 drivers?
[19:09] <ClientAlive> that's why I'm here and not reading a wiki
[19:10] <ClientAlive> if you don't know then fine
[19:10] <ikonia> I do know
[19:10] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: pastebin what?
[19:10] <SolarisBoy> there are and they expose what they expose - if you want to do custom you can - create a theme - so check the docs etc ClientAlive
[19:10] <ikonia> I'm using my own custom theme at the moment
[19:10] <ClientAlive> how about allow me to see if any of the other 1808 people here might know
[19:10] <newbie4s3m> ./s irc.act-crew.org
[19:10] <allie83> jrib: i want to download the tar.gz correct?
[19:10] <ikonia> ClientAlive: it's quite hard to explain is you haven't done any research on it
[19:11] <unborn> ClientAlive, ask them :)
[19:11] <ikonia> ClientAlive: after you've grasped the basics, it's easier to be specific then
[19:11] <SolarisBoy> which is probably why the point to documentation was the right thing to do.
[19:12] <Fang> so I'm trying to install iTunes on 12.10 and everything I've found says find it on playonlinux but it's not there for me. any advice?
[19:12] <ClientAlive> ikonia: ok, ok. It's just that I have no intention of devoting much effort to this particular issue. Perhaps that means I switch to a differnt them then (if there are not settings that are easily found).
[19:12] <ClientAlive> ikonia: thx man
[19:12] <jrib> allie83: no, just got to software sources and then the drivers tab
[19:12] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: what happened when you tried with --reinstall
[19:13] <Ephexeve_laptop> Yhg1s: http://bpaste.net/show/C3c5Jk7YzIq0tv18S26n/
[19:13] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: I'll be back in ~15
[19:13] <Inoki> Hwkiller: tried, on the desktop the mouse runs like hell, in Steam to no avail, but thanks.
[19:13] <ikonia> ClientAlive: it's a bit like saying " how do I edit the banned on my website's css" if you've got no idea how CSS works...it's tough
[19:13] <unborn> Fang, just install file then
[19:13] <Fang> I'm not sure how, I'm new to all this
[19:14] <mtx_1980> #list
[19:14] <ClientAlive> ikonia: I have messed with CSS  little when I created a custom theme for eclipse
[19:14] <unborn> Fang, playonlinux support windows stuff even if they are not on list.. but crapware like itunes man I would suggest to you using windows installation as a virtual..
[19:14] <auronandace> !itunes | Fang
[19:14] <ClientAlive> ikonia: Just that I don't know what document to edit for this particular issue
[19:14] <ikonia> ClientAlive: I'm using it as an example of how hard it is to tell people how to change things in CSS if they have no idea what css is
[19:14] <alen> fang try: sudo apt-get install iTunes
[19:15] <ikonia> Fang: that won't work
[19:15] <ikonia> Fang: itunes is not available for linux
[19:15] <alen> oy
[19:15] <mtx_1980> hoow can i ask for help?
[19:15] <Fang> well I just need something that will put songs on my ipod since the default music player wont
[19:15] <alen> Mplayer?
[19:15] <ikonia> mtx_1980: just ask
[19:15] <alen> Try Mplayer mate
[19:15] <mtx_1980> ok
[19:15] <mtx_1980> t
[19:15] <auronandace> !ipod | Fang
[19:16] <mtx_1980> i need to install skype, but it dont appears on software center
[19:16] <ClientAlive> well I know what css is. I'm a comp sci student studying to become a developer for crip sake. I know C, C++, some Jave, HTML, some Javascript, and some CSS and XML.
[19:16]  * adam|away is now away: away from keyboard
[19:16]  * adam|x is back from: away from keyboard (been away for 1s)
[19:16] <auronandace> !skype | mtx_1980
[19:16] <unborn> ipod is horrible device.. nice android phone will play even oggs and have equalizer.. :)
[19:16] <caz> Hi there, does anyonw have an idea why my Ubuntu breaks when using separate x-screen (no DE working correctly, multiple systray, no power button, multiple screen selector...etc) and working when using twinview?
[19:16] <ikonia> !away > adam|x
[19:16] <ikonia> unborn: not interestd in a ipod review, thanks
[19:16] <ClientAlive> anyhow, thx tho
[19:16] <Fang> lol well I don't really have the money to just go get a new one lol
[19:16] <unborn> ikonia, didnt say single word to you
[19:16] <alen> Androis -> botnet
[19:17] <unborn> thanks
[19:17] <alen> *android
[19:17] <ikonia> alen: please stop talking nonsense
[19:17] <allie83> jrib: sorry am lost now ...have found files for my version ubuntu now what?
[19:17] <ikonia> unborn: the user didn't ask for an ipod review, he asked for a music play that will allow communication with his ipod
[19:17] <alen> b-but they collect a load of data, i saw on documentary about google, same as google chrome look it up
[19:17] <mtx-1980> i need to install skype, but it dont appears on software center
[19:17] <mtx-1980> i did on terminal e the server said dont exist
[19:17] <jrib> allie83: why aren't you using the hardware drivers tab in Software Sources?
[19:17] <ikonia> alen: please stop talking nonsense
[19:17] <unborn> ikonia, i am free to express my mind even if you dont like it
[19:17] <ikonia> unborn: actually you're not
[19:17] <ikonia> unborn: it's an ubuntu support channel.
[19:17] <caz> mtx-1980, You can find it on skype website
[19:17] <unborn> what is wrong with you ikonia
[19:17] <alen> that's why i use chromium, it's open source and maintained by community without all the private data gathering bs
[19:17] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: you could try grabbing the .debs for those packages (for your ubuntu version) and installing them with dpkg
[19:18] <mtx-1980> ok
[19:18] <mtx-1980> ty
[19:18] <DJones> !coc | unborn
[19:18] <allie83> jrib: b/c i don't know where that is
[19:18] <mtx-1980> i wiil try
[19:18] <adam|x> ikonia, ubottu, i saw it. my bad
[19:18] <ikonia> adam|x: no problem
[19:18] <Fang> thank yall for the help :)
[19:18] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: which ones?
[19:18] <unborn> okay i see :) moron simple.. im going back to debian channel.. cya! :)
[19:18] <adam|x> While I'm here, what's the consensus on the ubuntu phones?
[19:18] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: python python2.7 python-minimal and python2.7-minimal
[19:19] <caz> None has already encounter my issue?
[19:19] <jrib> allie83: you can run "software-properties-gtk" in a shell
[19:20] <ClientAlive> ahh screw it. I guess my question just isn't intersting or people don't 'feel' like addressing it. I know two programming languages proficiently, two scripting language pretty well, html xml and css.   Then go to the "Additional Drivers" tab
[19:22] <ClientAlive> ikonia: so 1811 other people can ask thier questions and get information but I have to go read eh? And what, you speak for the other 1810 as well?
[19:22] <ClientAlive> I guess I"m not surprised
[19:22] <ikonia> ClientAlive: no, that's not what I said
[19:22] <ikonia> ClientAlive: you where complaining that no-one had answered and how skilled you where
[19:22] <allie83> jrib: software sources has opened but i don't see additional driver tab
[19:22] <ikonia> ClientAlive: it should be quite simple for you to read the skinning/theme docs and grasp it
[19:22] <ikonia> ClientAlive: then I'd be happy to answer and specific questions you have
[19:22] <jrib> allie83: what ubuntu version is this?
[19:22] <ClientAlive> I just have one question and I'm outa here. 'WHY WOULD I BE TREATED DIFFERENTLY THAN ANYONE ELSE HERE???'
[19:23] <allie83> jrib: 12.04 lts
[19:23] <alen> most recent?
[19:23] <ikonia> ClientAlive: you are not being treated different, please dump the caps
[19:23] <jrib> allie83: ok, run "jockey-gtk" then
[19:26] <Tex_Nick> 12.10 with gnome classic de ... i recently added a second monitor, it worked fine till i rebooted ... on reboot the bios POST is displayed on both monitors & GRUB is displayed on both monitors ... when it gets to the lightdm login, i loose one monitor ... at the desktop i have to use the "display settings" to toggle the inactive monitor off then back on ... what can i do to not have to go through that kludge ?
[19:26] <SunMoonStar> so for those who were helping me reinstall grub (if you're still here), when I boot from the HD, i just get a grub prompt
[19:27] <SunMoonStar> and have no idea what to type
[19:28] <caz> Tex_Nick, You would be glad that your 2nd monitor works... Mine does not...
[19:28] <Ascavasaion> I installed MAME in ubuntu... I was wondering if someone could tell me where to find MAME games for it now?
[19:28] <caz> Ascavasaion, On the internet dude ;)
[19:28] <ikonia> Ascavasaion: not something this channel would help you with
[19:29] <Ascavasaion> ikonia, oh... Um, any idea where I could ask?
[19:29] <ikonia> no
[19:29] <caz> Ascavasaion, Google has tons of answers... You would have a look on it
[19:30] <Ascavasaion> ikonia: Okies
[19:30] <Ascavasaion> caz: Thank you.
[19:31] <allie83> jrib: going to restart...fingers crossed brb
[19:31] <yumbo> hi, how do I enable vsync? (using intel graphics)
[19:32] <Tex_Nick> caz : did your second monitor work to start with ?
[19:36] <eanderson_> Other than the methods listed at http://www.webupd8.org/2012/11/how-to-use-multiple-monitors-in-xubuntu.html is there another way to make the xrandr configuration stick?
[19:37] <eanderson_> Sessions and startup seem to ignore the script i configured there.
[19:37] <eanderson_> speaking of that what file back the sessions and startup control applet?
[19:38] <allie83> jrib: i chose the recommended driver and still no video...what am i missing?
[19:43] <roach> how do i install java?
[19:43] <Myrtti> !java | roach
[19:43] <allie83> jrib: installed the recommended drivers and rebooted...still no video
[19:43] <Myrtti> roach: I prefer the webupd8 method, if you need the Oracle one. if not, openjdk one should do nicely
[19:44] <glenn_> need help with activating office 2010
[19:44] <ikonia> glenn_: ?
[19:44] <TheFlipside> hello?
[19:44] <glenn_> yes ikonia
[19:44] <TheFlipside> phew
[19:45] <ikonia> glenn_: can you expand on that ?
[19:45] <ikonia> glenn_: you know this is ubuntu - for ubuntu help?
[19:45] <piero> Do you know and trust privatetunnel.com ?
[19:45] <KromiX> u need help with activating office 2010?
[19:45] <KromiX> so why are u here ? :P
[19:45] <roach> Myrtti, what about 'Sun's JVM'?
[19:45] <glenn_> i now ikonia but i have installed office 2010
[19:45] <glenn_> by wine
[19:45] <TheFlipside> i dont trust anyone
[19:46] <Myrtti> roach: that's a bit on the old side now
[19:46] <jrib> allie83: don't know then
[19:46] <Myrtti> roach: that's basically replaced by Oracle Java since they bought Sun
[19:46] <TheFlipside> welcome to the news, 1 year ago
[19:46] <allie83> jrib: oh goodie....maybe now that ihave the correct driver i should remove and re-install jave and such?
[19:47] <KromiX> looks like activation fails via wine? http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=17336
[19:47] <eanderson_> damn you arandr!  I want the settings you make to be permanent!
[19:47] <KromiX> looks like maybe a workaround in the comments
[19:47] <KromiX> go try it
[19:48] <ikonia> glenn_: so you activate it the same as windows,
[19:48] <ikonia> glenn_: if there is something specific not working in wine #winehq may help
[19:49] <KromiX> glenn_ http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=17336
[19:51] <roach> thank you, Myrtti
[19:51] <jamesgcd> Hey guys, is anyone here able to help me out with an grub/installation problem involving UEFI at all? I'd be thankful for any assistance :)
[19:52] <multipack> if i can jamesgcd
[19:52] <multipack> hope i dont make a complete fool of myself lol
[19:53] <allie83> jrib: would it be better to download the file and install it myself thru the terminal?
[19:53] <Tex_Nick> 12.10 with gnome classic de ... i recently added a second monitor, it worked fine till i rebooted ... on reboot the bios POST is displayed on both monitors & GRUB is displayed on both monitors ... when it gets to the lightdm login, i loose one monitor ... at the desktop i have to use the "display settings" to toggle the inactive monitor off then back on ... what can i do to not have to go through that kludge ?
[19:53] <jamesgcd> well, thanks for offering multipack :). Basically, my laptop was updated to use UEFI once windows 8 was released, and I tried modifying windows 8 to use UEFI to boot to simplify installing various linux distributions (previously it booted with legacy bios support). Now though, I'm not offered the option to dualboot with ubuntu when installing it and I was wondering if you'd have any idea why ^_^?
[19:55] <alen> I have a strange issue with ubuntu, my laptop overheats and crashes easily on it wile it runs just fine on Vista?
[19:55] <alen> and has barely any heating on vista at all
[19:55] <alen> What can i do?
[19:55] <futa> just use vista
[19:56] <sddhrthrt> futa: ?!
[19:56] <tbruff13> I need help with kde 4.10
[19:56] <tbruff13> on Kubuntu I cannot move icons around
[19:56] <futa> is anyone in this session interested in ubuntu touch devices?
[19:56] <alen> b-but muh freedoms, i still want to stay on Ubuntu and know the reason behind the drastic overheating issues + eventual crashing
[19:56] <multipack> jamesgcd, what make of laptop?
[19:58] <futa> I can only use QML to develop apps for touch devices, and use only quickly to develop ubuntu apps, but as they say
[19:58] <joker_> i love python.
[19:58] <futa> the code is shared
[19:58] <jamesgcd> HP Pavillion dv6 - I feel like I should say this as its relevant to the problem: my BIOS has a "legacy mode", which lets it load operating systems which arent configured for UEFI. I still have to use this to load Windows 8 because if I load windows 8 without it, in UEFI modem it does load but bluescreens. I've essentially configured it to be abe to load through both but screwed up somewhere and I'm trying to avoid having to reinstal
[19:58] <DJones> futa: Try #ubuntu-touch thats the channel for phone & tablet devices
[19:58] <allie83> well that's nice....one thing didn't work so now i get no help at all...i appreciate your time jrib i see you've been busy but i'm still at square one and getting no more help...will figure it out on the my own i guess
[19:58] <recon_lap> alen: when it overheats are the fans running max or not running. are your temperature sensors setup correctly
[19:58] <alen> they are running on max
[19:59] <futa> thanks djones
[19:59] <alen> it's real strange
[19:59] <jrib> allie83: well did flash work in chrome when you tried it?
[20:00] <alen> where can I check my temperature sensors?
[20:00] <multipack> apt-get install lm-sensors then configure them
[20:00] <alen> i'm pretty certain the issue is due to ubuntu since as I mentioned on vista it just runs fine and doesn't overheat at all
[20:00] <alen> willdo multi thx
[20:00] <multipack> sudo sensors-detect and answer yes to everything
[20:01] <multipack> to read temps just type sensor
[20:01] <alen> ty! on it
[20:03] <multipack> jamesgcd, im searhing frantically but cant see a solution, i havent dual booted, but i had a nightmare getting ubuntu server installed with my new board, i had no experiance of uefi before
[20:04] <allie83> jrib:chrome msg: couldn't load shockwave
[20:04] <alen> no command sensor found? D:
[20:04] <jrib> allie83: how are you actually testing?  What site are you visiting?
[20:04] <jamesgcd> multipack, its okay if you can't find anything thanks for trying :). Admittedly, its going to be a rare problem since it only really effects hardware from 2010-2012 *AND* people who've upgraded from windows 7 to 8 *AND* tried to convert from using legacy booting to UEFI booting, thanks for all your help so far though ^_^
[20:05] <allie83> jrib: have checked video on youtube and games on facebook
[20:06] <jrib> allie83: give one specific site you are testing on chrome now
[20:06] <allie83> you tube
[20:06] <tbruff13> can someone help me please
[20:06] <jrib> allie83: and what happens at youtube?
[20:06] <jamesgcd> multipack as for your server, it shouldnt be too dissimilar to installing before UEFI - as long as theres only Ubuntu anyway ! if you have any specific problems I'll try help you search for them :p
[20:07] <allie83> jrib: i get the puzzle piece where video should be and msg couldn't load plugin
[20:07] <SonikkuAmerica> SunMoonStar: Regarding your issue
[20:07] <SunMoonStar> hi
[20:07] <multipack> alen  sudo apt-get install lm-sensors...sudo sensors-detect..answer y to everything then type sensors, if you get an error there is a bit of text you need to run if you get the sensors notfound error
[20:07] <jrib> allie83: and what happens in firefox when you visit youtube?
[20:07] <SonikkuAmerica> SunMoonStar: Does it look like grub> or grub rescue> ?
[20:07] <intrader> Good afternoon all - For some time my laptop has been overheating and shutting down (Lenovo t61p with Linux 12.10). I run Psensors (temp2 goes over 97C) and laptop shuts down. Problem showed up recently after an auto-update. by Update Manager. Application I am runing is a is firefox with any video clip (specially in full screen mode). Problem does not show up in Windows XP and FIrefox on same clip.
[20:07] <SunMoonStar> grub>
[20:07] <multipack> jamesgcd,  i had to make a efi boot partition before it would work
[20:08] <ZadYree> Question: I'm about to reinstall my system(keeping /home dir), but I'm using cryptsetup, which complicated the process. Any idea how to proceed?
[20:08] <allie83> jrib: black box where video should be but i have stills on the side of other videos...click on the,...black box where the video should be
[20:08] <SunMoonStar> SonikkuAmerica: I made some notes and I think that for /dev/sda4 is where linux is, I would need to do "root (hd0,3)" and then "kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda4" and then boot
[20:08] <CdK1> hi *
[20:08] <CdK1> any ideas with this xvba_video: driver does not support H.264
[20:08] <CdK1> ?
[20:08] <tbruff13> I can´t move the icons in kde 4.10 and I need help to figure out why
[20:09] <SunMoonStar> SonikkuAmerica: firstly I am not sure if that's right and secondly I wouldn't want to do that each time
[20:09] <SonikkuAmerica> SunMoonStar: Don't forget initrd
[20:09] <escott> jamesgcd, can you run "sudo parted -l"
[20:09] <SunMoonStar> oh yea, initrd /boot/<tab>
[20:09] <jrib> allie83: http://badgerbadgerbadger.com/ you see badgers here?
[20:09] <SunMoonStar> but would I have to do these each time? haven't tried these commands yet
[20:09] <SonikkuAmerica> SunMoonStar: Yeah, it's [ set root=(hd0,3) ] and then the commands you listed
[20:09] <alen> sensors works now thx!
[20:10] <alen> Core 0:       +73.0°C  (high = +105.0°C, crit = +105.0°C)
[20:10] <alen> Core 1:       +71.0°C  (high = +105.0°C, crit = +105.0°C)
[20:10] <escott> jamesgcd, if the install CD is booted in efi mode it looks only for a gpt partitioned disk. also in the installer check if /sys/firmware/ directory contains an efi/uefi directory
[20:10] <SonikkuAmerica> SunMoonStar: If no GRUB bootloader shows up
[20:10] <SunMoonStar> oh, set
[20:10] <alen> it's normal temperature now but Im sure it will heat up eventually
[20:10] <alen> and i don't know the reason D:
[20:10] <allie83> jrib: no badgers
[20:10] <multipack> alen its possessed !
[20:11] <SunMoonStar> so [ set root=(hd0,3) ] and then [ root (hd0,e ] again and etc..
[20:11] <leptone> does anyone know how i can highlight text and get text -to-speech like in OS X lion? 12.04
[20:11] <SunMoonStar> hd0,3)*
[20:11] <SunMoonStar> ?
[20:11] <jamesgcd> escott, I'll have to remake the liveDVD to try that unfortunately, though thats not really the problem. I'd happily now use the legacy boot mode just to have gotten ubuntu working, but that has the same problem. I've not got an issue with getting Ubuntu itself to work - the problem is doing it while getting windows 8 to also work since I need windows for compatibility reasons :p
[20:11] <alen> ._. what do
[20:11] <Inoki> Any Ubuntu Gamer here? Running Steam?
[20:11] <Physicist> What is the difference between: mp3, ogg, wav and flac?
[20:12] <alen> Inoki if you want to get tf2 hat just install google virtual machine then run ubuntu from there
[20:12] <allie83> jrib: in firefox or chromium...i must be missing something silly somewhere
[20:12] <alen> to get tux penguin if that's what you're most likely looking for
[20:12] <Inoki> alen: no thanks, I need to ask about mouse accel under Steam.
[20:12] <jamesgcd>  escott, in either legacy boot mode, or UEFI boot mode, Ubuntu/grub can't detect any other operating systems which is really inconvenient, though if I risk installing it anyway I could probably manually add windows to grub if it cant find it itself, do you think that'd work? (if I kept using legacy boot)
[20:12] <escott> Physicist, compressed with patents, compressed (better) without patents, raw uncompressed, lossless compression
[20:12] <alen> oh ok
[20:12] <jrib> allie83: apt-cache policy flashplugin-installer
[20:13] <dbe> Physicist, They are different types of audio encoding. mp3, ogg are different types of lossy compression codecs, flac is a lossless compression codec, and wav is raw.
[20:13] <Inoki> Is there anyone running Steam?
[20:13] <Physicist> What format is better? mp3, ogg, flac or wave?
[20:13] <dondy> is there a way to get the launcher bar to auto-hide reliably? (more often than not i have to mouse over it repeatedly so it shows) reveal sensitivity seems to be a no-op
[20:13] <dbe> Physicist, ogg.
[20:13] <Physicist> What format is better? mp3, ogg, flac or wave?
[20:13] <alen> multipack[A[A[A[A[ACore 0:       +73.0°C  (high = +105.0°C, crit = +105.0°C)
[20:13] <alen> Core 1:       +71.0°C  (high = +105.0°C, crit = +105.0°C)
[20:13] <bekks> !best | Physicist
[20:13] <escott> !best | Physicist
[20:13] <alen> multipac what can I do to reduce overheating on ubuntu ?
[20:13] <leptone> what is the best textToSpeech app for ubuntu 12.04? specifically for use in firefox.
[20:14] <Physicist> I want quality..
[20:14] <Physicist> I want quality..
[20:14] <escott> jamesgcd, we need some recon on what you have on the system. how is the disk partitioned. in what mode is the installer booting, in what mode is ubuntu booting
[20:14] <escott> Physicist, flac
[20:14] <Inoki> No Ubuntu gamers >.>
[20:14] <bekks> Physicist: Then use RAW Wave.
[20:14] <escott> Physicist, free LOSSLESS audio codec
[20:14] <jamesgcd> Inoki, whats your problem with steam?
[20:15] <Inoki> jamesgcd: Heya, well, I just need to check something with someone.
[20:15] <Inoki> jamesgcd: Just to be sure.
[20:15] <jamesgcd> inoki I dont have steam installed on ubuntu at the moment but I've gotten it working: whats the issue :p?
[20:16] <allie83> jrib: ran get update now it says The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available
[20:16] <Physicist> Thank you all. So flac and wav is best in quality..
[20:16] <jrib> allie83: what was the output from the command I gave?
[20:16] <Inoki> jamesgcd: Well, for this I believe it's a necessity to have it installed. I need to compare mouse settings, since I'm not sure is my issue DE specific. I basically need to check, that if one increases mouse acceleration under Unity if it works under Steam also, because for me, under Xfce 4.10 the accel works on desktop, but not under Steam.
[20:16] <jamesgcd> escott: /sda1 contains windows' boot partition, /sda2 contains windows itself. I'm aware for UEFI I need a partition containing boot data, but as I said, it would prevent me loading windows since it bluescreens with UEFI. If I bootup ubuntu either in legacy or UEFI mode, windows 8 doesn't appear as a detected OS
[20:16] <SonikkuAmerica> SunMoonStar: No, just [ set root=(hd0,3) ], then the [ linux ... ] command, then the [ initrd ... ] command, then [ boot ]
[20:17] <SonikkuAmerica> SunMoonStar: (Pardon my lateness)
[20:17] <escott> jamesgcd, could you please just run sudo parted -l
[20:17] <SunMoonStar> by linux.. command do you mean kernel /boot command
[20:17] <allie83> jrib: flashplugin-installer:
[20:17] <allie83>   Installed: <IP_ADDRESS>0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[20:17] <allie83>   Candidate: <IP_ADDRESS>0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[20:17] <allie83>   Version table:
[20:17] <allie83>  *** <IP_ADDRESS>0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> 0
[20:17] <allie83>         500 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates/multiverse i386 Packages
[20:17] <allie83>         500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security/multiverse i386 Packages
[20:17] <FloodBot1> allie83: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:17] <dbe> Physicist, flac has lossless compression, same quality. They require some harddrive though, audiofiles tend to be large when uncompressed.
[20:17] <SonikkuAmerica> !pastebin | allie83
[20:17] <jamesgcd> Inoki: ah no, steam games may or may not use your desktop preferences. It depends on the game: some games might have an option to fix that, others don't. For example, team fortress 2 I think has an option to use either the desktop environment settings or read them directly from X
[20:18] <jamesgcd> Inoki: its an issue with linux gaming in general, not just with steam
[20:18] <allie83> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5562776/
[20:18] <Physicist> dbe: Thank you. Understood.
[20:18] <allie83> sorry..forgot about pastebin
[20:18] <SonikkuAmerica> allie83: I have a workaround if you're getting the "flashplugin-installer wants additional data downloads" thing
[20:18] <jrib> allie83: you should fix the issues with your sources
[20:19] <Inoki> jamesgcd: thanks a lot! I believe this has to be fixed from Steam's side then. I thought, that maybe changing DEs would help.
[20:19] <loticdescant77> Hi guys, does anyone know of a room where I can get help installing calibre combined tools for linux?
[20:19] <jamesgcd> Escott, sorry, I'll have to do it later because I dont have the livecd with me at the moment :(! Thanks for your advice though, I'll note it down and if I'm here later and youre still willing to help I'll go ahead and do that ;)
[20:19] <allie83> jrib: what do you mean by that
[20:19] <jrib> loticdescant77: calibre is in the repositories
[20:19] <SonikkuAmerica> allie83: Run [ software-properties-gtk ]
[20:19] <newbie-4th-day> hey :) how can i nstall ubuntu in a USb Flash drive ... ?
[20:19] <alen> where do i disable the unity desktop environment I think it is the cause of overheating my laptop
[20:19] <Physicist> I am extracting some classical music from cd's.. The original format is wav, but, I have some choices.
[20:19] <loticdescant77> jrib, I successfully installed calibre, but need to install the combined tools.
[20:20] <SonikkuAmerica> allie83: (Run [ software-properties-kde ] if you have Kubuntu)
[20:20] <jrib> allie83: you mentioned that there were issues with keys/signatures and your pastebin indicates duplicate lines in your repository sources
[20:20] <jrib> loticdescant77: what are these?
[20:20] <jamesgcd> newbie-4th-day : I'd recommend using the program you can download here - http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ - it'll configure your USB stick to be able to load a distribution of your choice
[20:21] <loticdescant77> jrib they are tools that help with conversion of ebooks from one vendor to another.
[20:21] <ckoch786> Does anyone know how I can install emacs in 9.10? I would upgrade but I cannot because it is the version we use at work and upgrading breaks the build
[20:21] <jrib> loticdescant77: do they have a homepage?
[20:21] <newbie-4th-day> jamesgcd: i ll check this .. Thx
[20:21] <Physicist> I will extract files from 14 cd's.. Lots classical musics!
[20:21] <alen> Core 0:       +80.0°C  (high = +105.0°C, crit = +105.0°C)
[20:21] <alen> what do????
[20:21] <allie83> jrib:software sources open...what do i choose now? or do i insert my cd-rom
[20:21] <alen> it raised a LOT
[20:21] <ikonia> ckoch786: you'll have to use the old-releases.ubuntu.com archive repo
[20:22] <jrib> allie83: you mentioned that there were issues with keys/signatures and your pastebin indicates duplicate lines in your repository sources
[20:22] <loticdescant77> Jrib, this is the site I got the info from - http://apprenticealf.wordpress.com/2012/09/
[20:22] <escott> Physicist, sound-juicer can extract straight to flac
[20:22] <jamesgcd> Inoki: It would be good if valve could configure steam to do that but with all the desktop environments available it is a bit of a hassle, its also something which needs to be fixed more on a game-by-game basis I think. If youre able to change the default X server values for your acceleration it might help, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mouse_acceleration#In_xorg_configuration may be of assistance if you want to do that
[20:22] <satellit_e> usb-creator-gtk  "startup disk creator" in ubuntu also works for USB
[20:23] <allie83> jrib: allie83: you mentioned that there were issues with keys/signatures and your pastebin indicates duplicate lines in your repository sources....???
[20:23] <jrib> allie83: what is your question?
[20:24] <Physicist> escott: Well, I'm using Kubuntu, and have K3b, I think excellent and can extract in flac format too.
[20:24] <allie83> jrib: what did this mean that there are duplicates.
[20:24] <jrib> allie83: it means you have a repository line listed multiple times
[20:24] <allie83> jrib: and how is this corrected
[20:24] <jrib> allie83: remove the duplicates and leave only one
[20:24] <Inoki> jamesgcd: I've tried xset m <value> <value> but to no avail also. Steam simply ignores desktop settings, hence my question, if maybe Unity would work better.
[20:24] <allie83> jrib: and how do i do this?
[20:25] <Inoki> jamesgcd: Because it's obvious if Steam would be optimized, then for Unity, since that's Ubuntu's default desktop.
[20:25] <jrib> allie83: find the duplicates in /etc/apt/sources.list* and edit the files as needed.  I don't know if you can do this through the gui.  You can try using the gui first
[20:25] <allie83> jrib: thru my terminal?
 how do I use it?
[20:26] <jrib> allie83: only if you prefer
[20:26] <allie83> remember im a newbie so some of this is going way over my head
[20:26] <nicolenicole> I am having a great difficulty installing or running Ubuntu Studio 12.10 from live DVD on Windows 8 Pro 64-bit with UEFI.  I cannot run the live DVD nor can I install from disc or from Wubi.exe.  Any suggestions?
[20:27] <jrib> loticdescant77: well that site seems to link to a tar.gz for the tools.  So you can look inside and see if it has instructions.  And more importantly, look inside to see what is actually included and see if they're available in the repositories
[20:27] <newbie-4th-day> jamesgcd:  actually unebootin do the same as the startup Disk creator ... it create a live USb .. instead of a live CD! and what i'm looking for is to install it in the USB flash  like if i installed in da hard drive
[20:27] <Inoki> jamesgcd: And you're definitely right, that supporting all the DE environments, since new ones can emerge anytime, would be a bit of a hassle.
[20:27] <Atlantic777> Does anyone know any alternative to wicd? I need cli network manager capable of using wpa2 secured networks. I just can't play with wpa_supplicant manually and wicd doesn't work.
[20:27] <allie83> jrib: where do i find /etc/apt/sources.list*
[20:27] <escott> nicolenicole, i would not expect wubi to work
[20:27] <jrib> allie83: did you conclude you can't remove duplicates through the gui?
[20:27] <jamesgcd> Inoki : true, but the problem isn't steams fault. The game is responsible for retrieving settings itself, steam is only responsible for installing the game. It'd be comparable to blaming the software center for installing a program which didnt do what you wanted to, you could always try installing unity anyway, you wouldnt need to reinstall, it only requires installing a few packages
[20:28] <escott> nicolenicole, i would recommend either a real install or virtualbox
[20:28] <allie83> jrib: i don't know how to find gui
[20:28] <loticdescant77> jrib, i'll check the repositories. I downloaded the zip file and read the readme file, but the instructions for linux were missing and/or incomplete. But I'll check the repos.
[20:28] <nicolenicole> I have 100 GB set aside for a new partition, but I cannot even run the live DVD much less get to the Ubuntu installer
[20:29] <nicolenicole> when I select boot drom disc on BIOS it goes to a blank screen
[20:29] <Inoki> jamesgcd: Yer, but generally it's not a good idea to mix libraries, even if they are similar. Installing Unity is a matter of minutes, so do you suggest, that for best support one should install the main edition?
[20:29] <ckoch786> do I just add deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/karmic/ karmic main restricted to my sources.list?
[20:29] <jamesgcd> newbie-4th-day thats true, they do the same thing but Unetbootin is cross platform and easier to work with in my opinion. You can actually use both or either, its your choice! if you want persistant storage on the USB, I know unetbootin can set that up, I'm not sure about the usb-drive-creator
[20:29] <nicolenicole> *boot from disc
[20:29] <jrib> allie83: software-properties-gtk is the gui for manipulating software sources
[20:29] <SunMoonStar> I did a fsck yesterday and it fixed some bad sectors. Is it possible it was a fluke or should I for sure just get a new hard drive?
[20:29] <allie83> jrib: software sources?
[20:29] <linusoleander> I've this cron job: https://gist.github.com/oleander/4b990bb010eeba134ade
[20:29] <linusoleander> Why is stuff begin printed to stdout?
[20:30] <satellit_e> startup-disk-creator will do perstent usb also (only for ubuntu.iso's)
[20:30] <linusoleander> Have I missed something?
[20:30] <jamesgcd> Inoki: and yes/no. In theory it would work like that with Unity being the best desktop for anything due to popularity, in practice I think that doesnt work out, and that Unity with compiz is more likely to slow games down than it is to make them any better - although apparently 13.04 has reduced that issue dramaticallty
[20:30] <jrib> allie83: repositories.  Where apt/synaptic/software manager get their software
[20:30] <nicolenicole> has anyone else installed Ubuntu Studio 12.10 64-bit to Windows 8 Pro 64-bit with UEFI?  Window 8 seems to be using 3 partitions on a GPT partition table.
[20:31] <jrib> linusoleander: stderr still gets printed
[20:31] <Inoki> jamesgcd: when is 13.04 scheduled to arrive? April?
[20:31] <sSs> !seen scarecrow
[20:31] <linusoleander> jrib: Yes, I know. But right now stdout is begin printed
[20:31] <linusoleander> I get emails about it every day
[20:32] <escott> nicolenicole, you might try to disable secure boot
[20:32] <jrib> linusoleander: depends on "do-stuff" I guess
[20:32] <nicolenicole> secure boot is disabled
[20:32] <allie83> jrib: where do i find these repositories? in the software sources window?
[20:32] <jamesgcd> Inoki: yeah, every Ubuntu release occurs in april and october.
[20:32] <linusoleander> jrib: do-stuff only prints to stdout
[20:32] <jrib> allie83: they're what you see listed in the software sources window, yes
[20:32] <jrib> linusoleander: if you say so
[20:32] <jamesgcd> inoki: although if you were willing to try the beta, the 13.04 beta ISO should be released on march 14th if I recall correctly.
[20:33] <newbie-4th-day> jamesgcd: ok now i have  the live Usb created (with  persistance as u noticed ) :)
[20:33] <allie83> jrib: i have that window up ....ubuntu softare tab is showing
[20:33] <Inoki> jamesgcd: Some are already using it. But beta is beta, I intend to have a bug-free distro installed.
[20:33] <jrib> linusoleander: you should just pastebin do-stuff and pastebin what you are actually seeing that you don't expect
[20:33] <jrib> allie83: ok
[20:33] <escott> !nomodeset | nicolenicole
[20:34] <allie83> jrib: what do i do from here
[20:34] <jamesgcd> newbie-4th-day : a thing to worry about is the persistant storage is for ANY changes. For example, if you update a program, the space used up will be part of the persistant storage space. I wouldnt really recommend upgrading a USB drive with persistent storage.
[20:34] <Inoki> jamesgcd: I think I'll install the main edition, just for the sake of better support. Since I figured the main edition is the one they focus at most.
[20:34] <nicolenicole> it's an HP laptop, manufactured 2011, AMD graphics
[20:34] <jrib> ckoch786: depends on what you want to accomplish.  What do you want to accomplish?
[20:34] <nicolenicole> *2012
[20:34] <jrib> allie83: you can look for duplicates and remove them.  Like I said, I don't know if you can do that from the gui (i.e. I don't know if duplicates are actually displayed)
[20:35] <sumit> hi
[20:35] <jamesgcd> Inoki: and thats a fair point, and Unity does look rather pretty :). You can always upgrade to 13.04 when it comes out if you install the main edition today, or reinstall later if you wanted to. If you have enough time, you could really just keep messing around and find what works best for you
[20:35] <ckoch786> jrib: I just want to install GNU Emacs in 9.10
[20:35] <nicolenicole> hmmm that might be the issue, I'll try that, thanks, so you do not think it has to do with the UEFI firmware?
[20:36] <allie83> jrib: they are shown under other software tab.....some say main some say main (source code) which one do i get rid of?
[20:36] <jrib> ckoch786: you know 9.10 is no longer supported (this means no security updates for example)?  You should upgrade
[20:36] <Inoki> jamesgcd: To me best support matters most. And since Unity is the main edition, it will be the main focus. They started out with Steam on 12.04 so I suppose they intend to work with it closely.
[20:36] <linusoleander> jrib: Found it. I had a debug message that printed an empty string to stderr. Thanks :)
[20:36] <jrib> allie83: the duplicates
[20:36] <jrib> linusoleander: no problem ;)
[20:37] <allie83> jrib: which on is the dup....main or main source code?
[20:37] <jrib> allie83: since they are not the same, they are not duplicates
[20:37] <Eagleman> I am trying to virtualize my complete ubuntu-server enviroment using kvm, i used clonezilla to duplicate my physical machine and copy it to the new guest OS, but when i start the guest OS my hypervisor becomes really slow, all i am able to do is login on the hypervisor but then the connections gets dropped, i did checked for duplicate ip address and there are none that are shared, any idea what
[20:37] <Eagleman> could be the issue?
[20:37] <leptone> can someone please help me setup festival? I'm getting this erroe festival> (SayText "Hello")
[20:37] <leptone> ESD: error writing - Bad file descriptor
[20:37] <leptone> #<Utterance 0x7f86a2185430>
[20:37] <nicolenicole> I've tried installing both with UEFI and also in legacy mode with UEFI disabled
[20:37] <ckoch786> jrib: Yes I know, we are still using at work and upgrading breaks the build
[20:38] <jrib> ckoch786: your line looked right.  You may want to add multiverse and universe too
[20:38] <jamesgcd> Inoki: True, if stability is your main concern 12.04 is probably best. The only thing I feel like would be important if you do choose to update is that you wouldn't be able to go from 12.04 -> 13.04 in a single upgrade procedure, you'd need to go from 12.04 -> 12.10 -> 13.04, you can however jump from long term supports to the next in one upgrade
[20:38] <newbie-4th-day> jamesgcd: ok :)  so now i have 8Go live  usb Flash  with 2Go persistance !  should i reboot and boot from the USB ?  i think..
[20:38] <dimanix> bonjour j aimerais jouer a quake 3 arena avec un pote qui est sur windows comment on fais pour avoir tout les dossier et les metre sous reseau ?
[20:39] <dimanix> bonjour j aimerais jouer a quake 3 arena avec un pote qui est sur windows comment on fais pour avoir tout les dossier et les metre sous reseau ?
[20:39] <jrib> allie83: if you don't see duplicates, then you should say so and we can just do it manually.
[20:39] <jrib> !fr | dimanix
[20:39] <Inoki> jamesgcd: I always re-install to avoid upgrade issues :) Thanks for all your valuable support. It is much appreciated :) burning the main edition to USB now.
[20:39] <allie83> jrib: alright...well then how do i do that?
[20:40] <leptone> following this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TextToSpeech i get this: festival> (SayText "Hello")
[20:40] <leptone> ESD: error writing - Bad file descriptor
[20:40] <leptone> #<Utterance 0x7f86a2185430>
[20:40] <leptone> festival>
[20:40] <leptone>  can anyone help?
[20:40] <FloodBot1> leptone: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:40] <jrib> allie83: pastebin the output of « more /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*.list} | cat »
 I did but when I update I get this http://pastebin.com/urWvEv6F
[20:40] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: I fixec it, but now for example, many things gives me command not found, for example, I reinstalled redis-server, and when I type rqworker, it gives me command not found
[20:40] <jamesgcd> newbie-4th-day yeah, you can reboot into it and it'll save whatever changes you make (although it may warn you that it wont when you turn it off as persistence isnt used by default, but you can ignore that). Just remember as I said ANY change is saved to persistence, so firefox's cache will use persistent space, updates will, your documents will, everything will. Space can run out very quickly
[20:41] <jrib> ckoch786: old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu instead of what you had
[20:41] <ckoch786> here is the contents of my sources list http://pastebin.com/4VT1x2hf
[20:41] <jrib> ckoch786: (for the uri)
[20:42] <jamesgcd> Inoki: no problem. Hopefully soon gaming on Ubuntu will feel natural and desktop environments will get the interoperability thing working right - but for now things as they are, are going in the right direction :).
[20:43] <allie83> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5562857/
[20:43] <newbie-4th-day> jamesgcd:  i ll reboot , install irssi, and join this channel to tell me what's next
[20:43] <ckoch786> jrib: that fixed it thanks!
[20:43] <jrib> ckoch786: no problem
[20:43] <Novus> hey what is the best video broadcasting software for ubuntu?
[20:44] <lavigne> Bonjour j'ai la version libreoffice 1:3.6.r-rc2-0 de ubuntu depuis 3 semaines ne se load plus est-ce que quelqu'un a le même problème?
[20:44] <jamesgcd> Novus: How many people will you be broadcasting to, will it be a live stream, and is there any other specific requirements you'd need?
[20:44] <MasterOfDisaster> !fr | lavigne
[20:44] <leptone> how can i make orca use the festival synthesizer?
[20:45] <Novus> Live and prolly more then 1000
[20:45] <jrib> allie83: you have partner listed twice (once in sources.list and once in a file in sources.list.d)
[20:45] <SonikkuAmerica> !poll | Novua
[20:45] <SonikkuAmerica> !poll | Novus
[20:45] <Novus> HD quality
[20:45] <SonikkuAmerica> !polls | Novus
[20:45] <aPpYe> uh ... my kubuntu just stated that 13.04 was available.  I have had only quantal in my sources.list for some weeks...
[20:45] <allie83> jrib: ok...so what does this mean and how do i fix it?
[20:45] <jrib> aPpYe: if you didn't launch update-manager with any switches, file a bug
[20:46] <jamesgcd> Novus: you'll have a server to do that right? Thats probably the most important question at the moment
[20:46] <Novus> yup
[20:46] <Novus> I like this software
[20:46] <Novus> http://www.vidblaster.com/products/broadcast.html
[20:46] <jrib> allie83: comment the line "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu precise partner" in your sources.list
[20:46] <Novus> but that is for windows
[20:46] <FloodBot1> Novus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:46] <lavigne> I have a problem with libreoffice version 1:3.6.2-rc2-0 ubuntu it does not for the last 3 weeks anyone as the same problem
[20:46] <SonikkuAmerica> aPpYe: That doesn't mean a thing... sounds like the first consumer-available update is available
[20:46] <elisa87> Do you know what I should do? error: /home/jalal/NVIDIA_GPU_Computing_SDK/C/lib/libcutil_x86_64.a: not an object or archive
[20:47] <leptone> does anyone know how to make the festival synthesizer usable in Orca?
[20:47] <allie83> jrib: im still not sure of what youre saying to do
[20:47] <jrib> allie83: run the command « gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list » go to the line I said and put a '#' symbol in front of it
[20:48] <aPpYe> SonikkuAmerica, so everyone will be gettign this prompt?
[20:48] <jamesgcd> Novus: to be honest I'd probably recommend finding a web service to do that for you - I'm actually unsure for your specific situation what to recommend as I've never had to stream to such a big audience and typically used VLC when I did: http://www.area536.com/projects/streaming-video/ might give you some ideas but someone else here may be able to help :)
[20:48] <SonikkuAmerica> aPpYe: If you have "any new version" marked in your software properties
[20:49] <SonikkuAmerica> aPpYe: And not running 12.04 LTS
[20:49] <aPpYe> SonikkuAmerica, aaah.  I thought it was only stable releases.
[20:50] <loticdescant77> jrib, thanks...in the end I figured out what I was doing wrong. I kind of needed to extract the zip file. Duh...anyhow, fyi it was super easy once I did that. :) Thanks.
[20:50] <SonikkuAmerica> aPpYe: Typically they are... but even then, I think there are bugs in the sfotware channels themselves.
[20:50] <SonikkuAmerica> aPpYe: I woke to a VERY beta release of 12.04 when I upgraded from 11.10
[20:50] <soc> ciao a tutti
[20:51] <allie83> jrib: inserted # now what? save?
[20:51] <jrib> allie83: yeah
[20:51] <soc> list
[20:51] <soc> !list
[20:51] <allie83> jrib: done...what next?
[20:51] <jrib> allie83: run « sudo apt-get update » and make sure it doesn't complain about duplicates anymore
[20:52] <soc> list!
[20:52] <Eagleman> I am trying to virtualize my complete ubuntu-server enviroment using kvm, i used clonezilla to duplicate my physical machine and copy it to the new guest OS, but when i start the guest OS my hypervisor becomes really slow, all i am able to do is login on the hypervisor but then the connections gets dropped, i did checked for duplicate ip address and there are none that are shared, any idea what
[20:52] <Eagleman> could be the issue?
[20:52] <leptone> does anyone know how to make orca use festival?
[20:53] <MasterOfDisaster> Eagleman: sure you got enough memory?
[20:53] <Eagleman> MasterOfDisaster, 8GB on Hypervisor, 4 GB on Guest OS,  With my current host on a reboot i'm around 2 GB
[20:53] <rushboy> Hello , I am new to ubuntu . Why are files automatically created in the same directory with the suffix '~' whenever I make changes to the files in ubuntu ? Any help on this is highly appreciated :-)
[20:54] <allie83> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5562898/
[20:54] <newbie-4th-day> jamesgcd:  i'm here .
[20:54] <MasterOfDisaster> rushboy: depends on the editor used. you need to check its settings.
[20:55] <jrib> allie83: good, now you should sort out the key issues.  How did you add the PPAs you have in the first place?
[20:55] <rushboy> MasterOfDisaster, I use gedit
[20:55] <InspectorCluseau> rushboy,  backup file
[20:55] <allie83> jrib: ppa's?
[20:55] <jamesgcd> newbie-4th-day : oh hi x). Is the usb working well for you?
[20:55] <jrib> !ppa | allie83
[20:55] <jrib> allie83: you have several enabled
[20:55] <MasterOfDisaster> Eagleman: is the hypervisor under load? check with the usual suspects (top, iotop, vmstat, ...)
[20:56] <newbie-4th-day> jamesgcd: yeah thX for your help
[20:56] <Eagleman> MasterOfDisaster, hard to check when i am unable to connect to the hypervisor :P
[20:56] <allie83> jrib: if you mean installing adobe and flash and such i used the ubuntu software add remover program
[20:56] <rushboy> InspectorCluseau, okay . But if I delete them manually they re-appear again after I edit the files . So I suppose they should not .
[20:57] <Eagleman> MasterOfDisaster, I dont think its a load issue but a network issue, trying to find out what could be giving me problems
[20:57] <MasterOfDisaster> Eagleman: get physical access then. remote diagnosis this way is hard, even with a crystal ball.
[20:57] <InspectorCluseau> rushboy,  everytime you alter a file the old file is saved
[20:57] <InspectorCluseau> rushboy,  a 'just in case' file
[20:57] <MasterOfDisaster> Eagleman: well, you got to provide more data on your configuration then.
[20:58] <jrib> allie83: no, you have several PPAs enabled.  You can see the files for them in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/. For example, you have webupd8team-java-precise, nilarimogard-webupd8-precise, and others
[20:59] <jrib> allie83: you also have 3rd party repisottires like medibuntu.  If you added them but didn't add the gpg key for them to apt, then that's why you would see the warnings you are getting with apt-get update
[21:00] <allie83> jrib: i honestly don't remember adding medibuntu ..but anything like this i did thru the terminal
[21:00] <blanketop> Hello, I'm trying to dual-boot Ringtail on a Macbook 9,1 from an external drive
[21:00] <Eagleman> MasterOfDisaster, here is some information about the network:  http://pastebin.com/LtDmzXVV
[21:01] <ikonia> blanketop: 13.04 is not supported yet
[21:01] <ikonia> Eagleman: what's your actual problem
[21:01] <jrib> allie83: if you use the terminal, you should use add-apt-repository to add a ppa since it will import the key automatically
[21:01] <blanketop> Well, I already tried 12.xx
[21:01] <Eagleman> MasterOfDisaster, i guess as soon as the network starts on the guest OS i am having problems connecting to the hypervisor, ikonia
[21:01] <ikonia> Eagleman: please define "having problem"
[21:01] <blanketop> It says 'booting the kernel' and then seems to hang.
[21:02] <ikonia> blanketop: 13.04 is not supported yet
[21:02] <Eagleman> Pinging and traceroute works fine and login in ssh also, however when i want to type commands using ssh it gets diconnected ikonia
[21:02] <ikonia> Eagleman: does this happen when there are no guests running, or all the time
[21:02] <blanketop> very well, I'll try Pangolin again
[21:02] <Eagleman> ikonia, only when the duplicated hypervisor ( the guest ) is running
[21:02] <allie83> jrib: i'll be honest..i'm totally lost atm....i guess i've done things i shouldn't have and have made a mess of my system
[21:03] <ikonia> Eagleman: duplicated hypervisor ? you can only have 1 hypervisor
[21:03] <Eagleman> I bassicly used clonezilla to create the exact same machine, changed some settings to get it working
[21:03] <allie83> jrib: i hate being a 1/2 assed newbie
[21:03] <jrib> allie83: nah, no mess.  But you need to decide whether you want to just remove each ppa (there are 3 of them) or trust the key for it
[21:03] <ikonia> Eagleman: so when you start the guest, the host connection disconnects /
[21:03] <ikonia> ?
[21:03] <allie83> jrib: what would you do...lol
[21:04] <Eagleman> ikonia, i copied the HOST with clonezilla and extracted it in a VM, so i have 2 identical machines
[21:04] <Eagleman> ikonia, yes
[21:04] <Eagleman> Could this be hostname related?
[21:04] <ikonia> Eagleman: ok, can you connect to the guest ?
[21:04] <jrib> allie83: it's up to you.  If you use the PPAs then you should add their keys.  If you don't use the PPAs, then not much point in keeping them around
[21:04] <Eagleman> ikonia, yes, and partial to the HOST also
[21:04] <ikonia> Eagleman: it could be anything, you need to work it through
[21:04] <ikonia> Eagleman: "partial" to the host ? please be clear
[21:04] <lukas_> hi there ... i#ve a question to mencoder (not sure if i'm right here) a made i video with recordmydesktop(20fps) und tried to mencode it to *.avi with the command mentioned here http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/recordMyDesktop ... the problem is -> the video is faster than the sound
[21:04] <Eagleman> ikonia, i just explianed the issue with the ssh
[21:05] <ikonia> Eagleman: right, that's not partial connection
[21:05] <Eagleman> Pinging and traceroute works fine and login in ssh also, however when i want to type commands using ssh it gets diconnected ikonia
[21:05] <dio_> hello
[21:05] <allie83> jrib: well I'm not exactly sure what i've got going and whether or not i really need them...i really would just like to have my video working
[21:05] <ikonia> Eagleman: what network address is the host using
[21:05] <Eagleman> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/LtDmzXVV
[21:05] <jrib> allie83: this won't help you with the video either way :/
[21:06] <ikonia> Eagleman: what ip address are you trying to connect to when you connect to the host
[21:06] <allie83> jrib: well then what's it matter if i keep them or not
[21:06] <Eagleman> ikonia, HOST/Hypervisor: <IP_ADDRESS>     Guest OS: <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:06] <jrib> allie83: for each ppa, you should either add the key or remove the ppa altogether
[21:06] <dio_> i want to make a Linux server for home use  any idea for manual ?
[21:06] <ikonia> Eagleman: why does your guest OS have virtual interfaces
[21:07] <ikonia> Eagleman: why do they have IP conflicts
[21:07] <ikonia> Eagleman: why does your guest OS have tun interfaces
[21:07] <Eagleman> ikonia, its for openvpn
[21:07] <ikonia> Eagleman: you have IP conflicts
[21:07] <allie83> jrib: then how do i add the key? and if they won't fix the video i don't think i need them then..especially if i don't understand what they are exactly
[21:07] <Eagleman> ikonia, which interfaces>?
[21:07] <ikonia> Eagleman: virbr0
[21:08] <notluke> Anyone have a suggestion for a lightweight way to send mail from cron jobs/scripts that wouldn't necessitate installing exim/sendmail/postfix/etc?
[21:08] <Eagleman> ikonia, its a virtual private network,
[21:08] <dio_> #debian
[21:08] <ikonia> Eagleman: it's still a conflict as both the host and guest are on the same network with the same address
[21:09] <jrib> allie83: you can add a key with « sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys PUBKEY_ID » where PUBKEY_ID is that long string like "D834D91FA49CCDDB" that you see in each error.  You can remove the ppa through the gui or just delete the right .list file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and then run « sudo apt-get update »
[21:09] <ikonia> Eagleman: br0 also has the same interface
[21:09] <ikonia> Eagleman: you have 3 interfaces sharing the same IP
[21:10] <Shadkowz> Hello
[21:10] <allie83> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5562963/
[21:11] <Eagleman> ikonia, i fixed the virb0 interface, however i dont see a duplicated br0 interface
[21:11] <jrib> allie83: you need to replace PUBKEY_ID with a pubkey id if that's what you want to do
[21:11] <ikonia> Eagleman: br0 is <IP_ADDRESS> - the same as the two conflicting virbr0
[21:12] <Eagleman> inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>
[21:12] <allie83> jrib: where do i find the pubkey id?
[21:12] <jrib> allie83: you can add a key with « sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys PUBKEY_ID » where PUBKEY_ID is that long string like "D834D91FA49CCDDB" that you see in each error.  You can remove the ppa through the gui or just delete the right .list file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and then run « sudo apt-get update »
[21:12] <ikonia> Eagleman: sorry, miss-read
[21:13] <allie83> jrib: oh...i see...let me try.... i must say im not a computer geek ( no offense) and am 4 months pregnant...am on the verge of tears just wanting to get this to work
[21:14] <jrib> allie83: ok well relax and have some ice cream... I'm in the mood for some myself
[21:14] <allie83> jrib: lol....maybe some pickles :P
[21:15] <Eagleman> ikonia, duplicate things should be solved now, also changed the hostname to be sure
[21:15] <num7> hello, does someone know a command to figure out the info of the cpu?
[21:15] <ikonia> num7: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[21:15] <ikonia> Eagleman: does your cpu have VT enabled ?
[21:16] <Eagleman> ikonia, VT-x yes, i do not have support for vt-d
[21:16] <ikonia> Eagleman: make sure your host is not struggling with load
[21:16] <num7> ikonia: Thanks man
[21:16] <allie83> jrib: i don't know if i did this right
[21:17] <allie83> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5562982/
[21:19] <jrib> allie83: you made a typo (the D at the end should be a C).  You should just copy and paste
[21:19] <Tex_Nick> allie83 : put those pickles on the ice cream jrib just sent you @^@
[21:20] <Eagleman> ikonia, its not a load issue
[21:20] <allie83> jrib: so that key is fixed now
[21:20] <newbie-4th-day> jamesgcd: i sticked another usb flashand i followed the normal install process  ( installing it in this new USB flash) let's see what will happen ..   --"
[21:20] <allie83> jrib: now i need to go back and fix the other just the same..?
[21:20] <allie83> tex_nick: thanks :)
[21:20] <mtadyshak> ubuntu 10.04.4lts dell inspiron 17r 5720 model.  no vga out.  cannot detect monitor (acer s230hl)
[21:21] <Tex_Nick> ;-)
[21:21] <Eagleman> ikonia, 2513/7898 MB RAM, 3% load CPU
[21:21] <jrib> allie83: sure
[21:21] <radiohead> hi folks, iv just installed a second hard drive onto my system ... how can I see if its working in Ubuntu? do I need to mount it ?
[21:21] <jamesgcd> newbie-4th-day did the previous usb installation not work?  I want to get some files off it before I format it and put it bk in her machine
[21:23] <Eagleman> ikonia, the ssh connection to my host is extremly slow, but it didnt disconnect yet,  http://pastebin.com/du9yrTDw
[21:24] <ikonia> Eagleman: your client is on the <IP_ADDRESS> network, correct ?
[21:24] <Eagleman> yes
[21:24] <ikonia> Eagleman: you've got two routes for the <IP_ADDRESS> network,
[21:25] <ikonia> Eagleman: that maybe why you are slow / dropping connections
[21:25] <ikonia> Eagleman: you've also got no default gateway on your host
[21:25] <allie83> jrib: alright i fixed the other 2 ppa's    what's next
[21:25] <Eagleman> ikonia, which one do you suggect deleting, the bridged one or eth1?
[21:26] <ikonia> Eagleman: I don't know your setup so can't comment, but the lack of default gateway is probably ok, but not good, but your routing conflict for <IP_ADDRESS> is a problem you'll need to work through
[21:26] <jrib> ls -l /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so
[21:26] <jrib> allie83: ls -l /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so
[21:27] <allie83> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5563007/
[21:27] <jrib> allie83: what extensions do you have in firefox?
[21:28] <newbie-4th-day> jamesgcd: it worked  but didn't like! it's all about tying ubuntu ; i have to above the installation autorun each time i connect ! so now im installing ubuntu in a new usb flash by creating a new partition table inti it .. for '/ ',, ' /home'  and ' swap'
[21:28] <laura__> hola alguien que me pueda asesoro un problema con el brillo de pantalla no aplica los cambiosrar sob
[21:29] <SonikkuAmerica> !es | laura__
[21:29] <laura__> esta oscuro y se me dificulta para ver
[21:29] <allie83> jrib: global menu bar integration 3.7.1 & ubuntu firefox modifications 2.6
[21:29] <SonikkuAmerica> laura__: juntale a #ubuntu-es
[21:29] <allie83> jrib: im sure i don't need the 1st one
[21:30] <jamesgcd> newbie-4th-day I cant say I've tried that, but if it works for you thats good. What's stopping you installing ubuntu on the actual computer though? If you're looking for portability, I think there may be better options for you to try out like Puppy Linux rather than Ubuntu, they seem more fit for purpose
[21:30] <jrib> allie83: that's ok.  Your description just sounded like you might be using flashblock, but I guess not.  It's strange that flash works ok at https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ but not elsewhere
[21:30] <Eagleman> ikonia, it still hangs sometimes, fixed the routing and added a default gateway
[21:31] <drizze> mccs.stu.marist.edu:6667
[21:31] <allie83> jrib: so what am i missing
[21:31] <Schumi23> Do you know of any good mass image resizer? Thanks! (For Ubuntu)
[21:31] <ikonia> Eagleman: keep working it through, look at your syslog, also remeber you've changed the interfaces, but not the iptables rules that match them
[21:32] <laura__> hola alguien que me pueda asesoro un problema con el brillo de pantalla no aplica los cambios
[21:32] <allie83> jrib: are my plugins in firefox important
[21:32] <ikonia> !es  | laura__
[21:32] <leptone> does anyone know how to use the festival synthesizer with orca screen reader?
[21:32] <dustinspringman> so, Ive read about a dozen posts about how to set static DNS servers that will not  be overwritten on reboot, but I can't seem to get any of them to work... 64bit Server 12.04LTS... Can someone point me to some docs that aren't written for computers to read?
[21:32] <laura__> hhh
[21:33] <dustinspringman> I've successfully done this before, but can't remember how...
[21:33] <jrib> allie83: the extensions you mean?  Yes, those are normal
[21:33] <newbie-4th-day> jamesgcd: yes it's about portability :) i'm googling 'puppy linux'
[21:33] <allie83> jrib: i meant under add-on manager...plugins tab
[21:34] <nuclrwastd> [C[C[D
[21:34] <WBF> I need help the avconv package isn't installing: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5563031/
[21:35] <jrib> allie83: well you should see flash there and it should be "enabled"
[21:35] <acc> hello, is the 'res' column in the top command the used memory?
[21:35] <acc> and means 339m megabytes?
[21:36] <SonikkuAmerica> acc: I believe "res" means "resources"
[21:37] <WBF> SonikkuAmerica, :D
[21:37] <k1l_> WBF: which ubuntu is that?
[21:37] <WBF> k1l_, ubuntu 12.10
[21:37] <oli_b> hi all
[21:37] <k1l_> WBF: and did you run a sudo apt-get update?
[21:37] <ax562> hi
[21:37] <WBF> k1l_, yes
[21:37] <jrib> allie83: any output here: ls -l ~/.mozilla/plugins
[21:38] <allie83> jrib: DivX, DjView, IcedTea Plugin, QuickTime Plugin, Shockwave Flash, VLC Multimedia, Windows Media Player Plugin....
[21:38] <ax562> does anyone know how to automatically run scripts at boot in ubuntu?
[21:38] <k1l_> WBF: the package name is: libav-tools
[21:38] <ax562> is there init.d type directory that could handle that?
[21:38] <jrib> allie83: you can try disabling all of them except flash and trying youtube again if you want
[21:38] <WBF> k1l_, thanks :D
[21:38] <jrib> !startup | ax562
[21:38] <k1l_> WBF: and since 12.04 that should be installed by default
[21:39] <dustinspringman> disregard, I found the thread I used before!~ +1 for bookmarks that get forgotten.. =D
[21:39] <allie83> jrib: i'll try it...the shockwave flash?
[21:39] <jrib> allie83: right, leave that enabled
[21:39] <allie83> jrib:ok
[21:39] <ax562> @jrib but that will handle scripts and not only apps?
[21:39] <jrib> ax562: the instructions give you several options.  What do you mean by "that"
[21:40] <ax562> "start up programs tab"
[21:40] <jrib> ax562: yes, you can put scripts there
[21:41] <ax562> can they be given sudo permissions through that function?
[21:42] <jrib> ax562: what, specifically, do you want to execute?
[21:42] <allie83> jrib: grr...closed firefox and started over...no video...the black box is there for a moment then just white ...but i still have my thumbnails
[21:42] <ax562> kernel scripts
[21:42] <SonikkuAmerica> ax562: If you type "sudo" or "gksudo" in the line (depending on GUI or terminal) they will be run with root permissions, but you'll need to auth first
[21:42] <ax562> custom
[21:42] <jrib> ax562: be more specific
[21:42] <jrib> allie83: any output here: ls -l ~/.mozilla/plugins
[21:43] <SonikkuAmerica> ax562: (I have that backwards)
[21:43] <ax562> swappinnes, cache pressure, dirty etc
[21:44] <allie83> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5563059/
[21:45] <acc> is it possible to change the nice worth of a running process?
[21:45] <jrib> allie83: close all your firefox windows, then run firefox in a terminal, visit youtube, pastebin any output you get in the terminal
[21:45] <ax562> so where the heck is prefrences?
[21:45] <jrib> acc: renice
[21:46] <ax562> i went to system settings and system doe not have preferences
[21:46] <allie83> jrib: run firefox in terminal? never done this before
[21:46] <jrib> allie83: yes
[21:47] <jrib> ax562: well swappiness you can set using sysctl, how about the others?
[21:47] <acc> jrib thx
[21:47] <aaas> can anyone recommend webcam software for ubuntu...just something where I can turn on my cam and see myself through my laptops integrated camera
[21:47] <Eagleman> ikonia, thanks for helping, i have to look into it next day. see what goes wrong
[21:47] <SonikkuAmerica> ax562: Silly me! It's System Settings > Startup Applications
[21:48] <allie83> jrib: type run firefox?
[21:48] <jrib> allie83: just "firefox"
[21:48] <SonikkuAmerica> ax562: Or do a Unity dash search for it
[21:48] <jamesgcd> aaas: try using cheese :)
[21:48] <alex_mayorga> Hello! I keep getting an error report for apportcheckresume. Can anyone here help me get rid of it?
[21:49] <WBF> tried to use avconv to record screen from this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/167683 [but winded up with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5563077/]
[21:50] <allie83> jrib: opened firefox...nothing more came up in the terminal....no video either
[21:50] <jrib> allie83: did you get a new prompt?
[21:50] <k1l_> WBF: read the comments under that commandbox
[21:50] <WBF> ++
[21:50] <allie83> jrib: yes
[21:51] <WBF> oops k1l_ srry
[21:51] <WBF> my mouse fell off my desk
[21:51] <jrib> allie83: you have to close all your firefox windows and then type firefox in the terminal
[21:51] <allie83> jrib: then enter?
[21:51] <jrib> allie83: right
[21:52] <ikonia> Eagleman: reloading your iptables rules would be a good start, so they match your new interface setp
[21:52] <ikonia> setup
[21:52] <allie83> jrib: okay, i'm at my ubuntu start page
[21:52] <jrib> allie83: go to youtube
[21:53] <allie83> jrib: click a video?
[21:53] <jarray52> The following line in /etc/fstab use to work in previous versions of Ubuntu, but it now prevents Ubuntu from booting. Any suggestions. The line is
[21:53] <jarray52> none /proc/bus/usb usbfs defaults,devmode=0664 0 0
[21:54] <bekks> jarray52: Just omit that line, it is horribly outdated.
[21:54] <jrib> allie83: sure
[21:54] <AcidRain> what are some good BIG online multiplayer ubuntu games?
[21:54] <Grimey_> /quit
[21:54] <baumy> if i want windows to be detected by grub, and ubuntu is my primary os, and im manually partitioning things during an ubuntu server install, how should i setup my partitions? ive been running into bios/uefi problems and the documentation isnt helping me
[21:54] <ikonia> jarray52: why have you got that line ?
[21:54] <allie83> jrib: nadda
[21:55] <jarray52> ikonia: I have a USB JTAG flasher to flash my OpenWRT router.
[21:55] <jrib> allie83: nothing in your terminal?
[21:55] <jamesgcd> AcidRain it depends upon the genre and youd probably get better help on the steam forums or some other gaming website :p
[21:55] <ikonia> jarray52: that line won't "mount" anything
[21:55] <allie83> jrib: just a square cursor
[21:55] <jrib> allie83: and no new prompt this time/
[21:55] <jarray52> ikonia: In the past, it was required for the JTAG flasher to work.