[13:18] <bekks> SimonJai_: Let them write to a logfile of your choice.
[13:18] <siwica> hitsujiTMO: I dont have root priviliges here, any program that doesnt require installation and that can make my usb stick bootable? :)
[13:19] <SimonJai_> can't run as daemon?
[13:19] <aib> what's wrong here? http://pastebin.com/v58fbq3T -- it prevented me from purging a debian package earlier
[13:19] <hitsujiTMO> siwica: you have to have root priv to install a bootloader
[13:21] <jrib> aib: step back and give context; also pastebin that file
[13:21] <siwica> hitsujiTMO: do they all need to be installed? I mean I can compile and run programs
[13:22] <hitsujiTMO> siwica: the boot loader is what makes the usb bootable, which requires raw access to /dev/sdX
[13:23] <aib> jrib: the context is, I was trying to aptitude purge mumble-django. it gave an error. then I tried apt-get purge. then dpkg -P. then eventually manually running the postrm script which gave the error: http://pastebin.com/28Sj7X7p
[13:27] <rmsilva1973> Anyone knows how to fix the "extension RANDR missing" on Ubuntu 12.10 ?
[13:28] <siwica> hitsujiTMO: ok, thanks!
[13:28] <IL> CIAO
[13:28] <rmsilva1973> I mean, 12.04
[13:28] <IL> !LIST
[13:32] <rmsilva1973> How come this channel have so many participants and so little activity ?
[13:32] <jrib> rmsilva1973: early morning on weekend in the US
[13:32] <Cuppa_coffee> and lurking is quite common on irc
[13:33] <jrib> aib: pastebin yet?
[13:33] <rmsilva1973> I see...
[13:33] <aib> jrib: do you want the source to /usr/share/debconf/confmodule ?
[13:33] <jrib> aib: whatever the first file mentioned in your error was
[13:34] <rannger> test
[13:34] <Cuppa_coffee> succes
[13:43] <jfidqs> hi somebody can help me with texmaker pls ?
[13:44] <k1l_> !details | jfidqs
[13:45] <jfidqs> xubuntu 13.10 an texmaker. I have an indentation in my pdf at page number 2
[13:46] <snql> can I remove /usr/src directory? it's safe?
[13:46] <k1l_> jfidqs: if its latex questions you might better ask in a latex related channel
[13:46] <snql> My /usr/src folder occupies almost 10% of my 10GB harddrive
[13:46] <jfidqs> i don't found it...
[13:46] <eklavya> guys can anybody here tell me why ubuntu-sdk ppa was screwed up for ubuntu 12.04, I need to deply my qt5 app which I could do without a sweat before when there was an ubuntu-sdk ppa
[13:47] <hitsujiTMO> snql: NO IT IT NOT SAFE
[13:47] <jrib> snql: well what's in it...?
[13:47] <k1l_> !alis | jfidqs
[13:48] <hitsujiTMO> snql: can you give us the output of: dpkg --get-selections | grep "linux-header"            and: uname -r
[13:48] <snql> hitsujiTMO << current core is 3.2.0-55-generic-pae, but the folder contains linux-headers-3.2.0-54/
[13:49] <snql> and linux-headers-3.2.0-55 sorces
[13:49] <snql>
[13:49] <hitsujiTMO> snql: can you run both commands and give me the exact ouput
[13:49] <k1l_> snql: you can remove the older kernel packages: linux-image-..... and linux-header-...
[13:52] <snql> hitsujiTMO << http://pastebin.com/iU0niwxm
[13:55] <hitsujiTMO> snql: sudo apt-get purge linux-headers-3.2.0-54 linux-headers-3.2.0-54-generic-pae
[13:55] <hitsujiTMO> snql: do you only have a 2GB partition for your root?
[13:57] <snql> hitsujiTMO << 10 gb, 3.3 free. I'm looking for what i can remove
[13:58] <bosnjak> hi all
[13:58] <bosnjak> how do i format my SD card again? It is somehow corrupted and it doesnt automount. I see in dmesg this: http://pastebin.com/sLPREMmg  Also, i don't see /dev/sdb in gparted
[13:58] <hitsujiTMO> snql: /usr/src should not be taking up 10% then with only 2 kernel headers installed
[13:58] <michiel__> how to prevent screen lock after idling in ubuntu
[14:00] <hitsujiTMO> bosnjak: that looks like possible physical errors. whats the output of: ls -l /dev/sdb
[14:02] <snql> hitsujiTMO << I found my files - source 3.7 kernel :) all ok
[14:02] <Cuppa_coffee> michiel__, settings, brightness and lock
[14:04] <michiel__> cuppa_coffee thx :)
[14:06] <bosnjak> hitsujiTMO: brw------- 1 root root 8, 16 Lis 26 16:03 /dev/sdb
[14:07] <bosnjak> hitsujiTMO: fdisk lists only /dev/sda partition and hangs. "file -sk /dev/sdb" also hangs and doesn't output anything
[14:08] <hitsujiTMO> bosnjak: are you calling fdisk directly on /dev/sdb with: fdisk /dev/sdb      ?
[14:08] <bosnjak> hitsujiTMO: no, i was "sudo fdisk -l"
[14:09] <hitsujiTMO> bosnjak: try: sudo fdisk /dev/sdb      then
[14:09] <bosnjak> hitsujiTMO: fdisk /dev/sdb hangs, i can't even CTRL+C it
[14:09] <hitsujiTMO> i'd have to presume physical errors then
[14:09] <hitsujiTMO> try the card in another comp ... if the card works its th ecard reader, if it doesnt then its the card
[14:10] <bosnjak> hitsujiTMO: ok, ill try when i get a chance. thank you for your help
[14:11] <manornk> Hi there, I am the CEO at NGO and i want to know is there any way to be partner with ubuntu?
[14:12] <hitsujiTMO> manornk: this is a support channel. you would need to contact canonical
[14:13] <mikolaj_> sometimes ubuntu does not load, my monitor says "no input" and goes to sleep
[14:14] <mikolaj_> how worried should I be? Feels like maybe some day it will not start at all
[14:14] <mikolaj_> and all my stuff will be lost
[14:14] <luminous> trying: service hostname start returns hostname stop/waiting
[14:15] <luminous> what's up with hostname? /etc/hostname has 'host'
[14:15] <luminous> is there a log I can dig into?
[14:16] <hitsujiTMO> mikolaj_: it depends on what the problem is ... if you're afraid of losing data then you should perform a backup. when it happens can you try: ctrl+alt+f1 to see if you get tty terminal?
[14:16] <new0> hitsujiTMO, hey i just installed ubuntu on WD 1TB external USB HDD but it doesn't boot up
[14:16] <luminous> I dont see anythign in /var/log/upstart related to hostname service
[14:16] <hitsujiTMO> new0 in what way doesn't it boot? where does it get stuck?
[14:17] <hitsujiTMO> luminous: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[14:17] <new0> hitsujiTMO, after my laptop boot the BIOS i have black screen
[14:17] <hitsujiTMO> new0 any text at all?
[14:18] <new0> hitsujiTMO, the grub doesn't even displayed
[14:18] <new0> hitsujiTMO, no
[14:18] <luminous> hitsujiTMO: 12.04 lTS, sorry to omit that detail
[14:20] <hitsujiTMO> luminous: the hostname service may not respond to the start command ... what exactly are you trying to do?
[14:20] <Milos> I'm helping a friend install Ubuntu for the first time, helping over the Internet, and after booting from Live USB, it hangs at the purple screen. If booted in safe graphics mode the last thing shown is 'stopping lightdm display manager [ ok ]' - any ideas where to start troubleshooting?
[14:20] <hitsujiTMO> new0: what type of install was it? bios or uefi?
[14:20] <Milos> never mind, just did a USB check and it's corrupt
[14:22] <new0> hitsujiTMO, not sure what u mean. i setup live-cd on perdrive and install ubuntu on my 1TB HDD with 2 partition. the ubuntu is on the second partition 20GB
[14:22] <hitsujiTMO> new0 ... does your other os boot ok?
[14:23] <hitsujiTMO> new0: also, will it boot if the pendrive is in?
[14:25] <new0> hitsujiTMO, no. if i boot with the pendrive then only the first USB is booted, but i don't have any other OS here only the one i just installed on 1TB
[14:25] <new0> hitsujiTMO, on the 2nd partition 20GB
[14:26] <new0> hitsujiTMO, maybe it's not active? i did format the 20GB as EXT4 with / (root)
[14:26] <hitsujiTMO> new0 where did you install grub to?
[14:26] <hitsujiTMO> new0: also i mean, is the OS on the internal drive still working?
[14:29] <new0> hitsujiTMO, i didn't install grub. i just installed ubuntu (just). my internal drive gone (i think) not working
[14:30] <luminous> hitsujiTMO: I control the system through saltstack, and I've got a salt state to control the hostname, and I believe it works. I've had to tweak my first tests.. so now I want to retest with the system as it was. so I'm trying to reset the hostname to 'host' instead of 'host.domain.tld'
[14:31] <hitsujiTMO> new0 grub is the bootloader for ubuntu ... you need to install that to the root of the drive. can you boot the installer again (go to try ubuntu) and we'll see if we can see what went wrong
[14:31] <hitsujiTMO> luminous: to change the hostname use the hostname command: sudo hostname host
[14:32] <new0> hitsujiTMO, i am on try ubuntu right now
[14:32] <new0> hitsujiTMO, any my ubuntu is connected
[14:33] <Guest14229> alright so I ran into a little problem. I am tryying to help a friend give up windows xp. I clean installed for her lubuntu 12.04 on this old toshiba tecra laptop. this thing was designed to run windows 2000 thats how old it is. she claimed she can play candy crush and other facebook games fine before with xp. but on here those games take forever to load and possibly won't load at all. maybe someone can shed some light on what I can do her
[14:33] <Guest14229> e?
[14:33] <luminous> hitsujiTMO: hostname -f says:hostname: Name or service not known
[14:33] <luminous> why's that?
[14:33] <luminous> I think I can retest with your suggestion and removing /etc/hostname though
[14:33] <hitsujiTMO> luminous: luminous because you didnt set your fqdn in /etc/hosts
[14:34] <luminous> ah, ok. ty!
[14:35] <zybil> hi
[14:36] <chaitu> hi
[14:36] <hitsujiTMO> luminous: actually that error should not be coming up either ... it could be the case that saltstack may have taken over the hostname control with its own implementation
[14:37] <new0> hitsujiTMO, ?
[14:37] <hitsujiTMO> new0 ... 2 secs
[14:37] <Trudko> guys I have two monitors. On one side I have full screen youtube video on second one i have editor. If I set video on fullscreen and then click on editor, full screen is canceled(firefox) why is that?
[14:38] <hitsujiTMO> new0: can you give me the output of: lsblk
[14:38] <new0> hitsujiTMO, sure. what part?
[14:39] <hitsujiTMO> new0: all of it: use: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit && lsblk | pastebinit
[14:41] <new0> hitsujiTMO, he he :) cool: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6306657/
[14:45] <hitsujiTMO> new0: can you start with these commands: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6306669/
[14:46] <SuperLag> What makes an icon show up on the Launcher? is it an entry in a text file somewhere? (so that those entries could be edited by a script, versus manually adding/removing items)
[14:47] <new0> hitsujiTMO, just copy & paste all in the terminal?
[14:47] <hitsujiTMO> new0: yup that should do it
[14:47] <Radon_3> Hi everyone, I know what I am going to ask is totally off-topic, but I simply know no where else to ask my question, can I ask for help from anyone here?
[14:47] <SuperLag> Radon_3: just ask the question, and find out
[14:47] <Radon_3> Thanks.
[14:47] <new0> hitsujiTMO, ok. why i become root?
[14:47] <new0> hitsujiTMO, anyway i did...
[14:48] <abd-allah> lone@lone-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:48] <abd-allah> [sudo] password for lone:
[14:48] <abd-allah> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[14:48] <abd-allah> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[14:48] <abd-allah> how to fix it?
[14:48] <hitsujiTMO> new0: you are root, on the other install now
[14:48] <FloodBot1> abd-allah: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:48] <new0> hitsujiTMO, ah ah ok. now what do i need to do?
[14:48] <hitsujiTMO> new0: try: update-grub && grub-install /dev/sdb
[14:49] <new0> hitsujiTMO, do u want the results?
[14:49] <hitsujiTMO> abd-allah: is sofware center open? or update manager?
[14:49] <hitsujiTMO> new0: might aswell
[14:50] <chro> is there any third-party repo for the latest eclipse version?
[14:50] <ecaz> Does anyone here use Komodo Edit? I'm trying to install it on 13.10 but it's not working
[14:50] <new0> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6306704/
[14:50] <Radon_3> My head (my brain) has become super sensative to my phone. When I talk using my phone my brain sides (either left or right) feel a little like it is under pressure or painful (a little). Now when I told a friend of mine about the issue (an engineer) acted wiered like there was something up with me or my brain. This worries me a lot. Is it normal? What should I do? Could it be for years of being
[14:50] <Radon_3> near my PC and having a headphone up my head?
[14:50] <new0> hitsujiTMO, what did it do?
[14:51] <gordonjcp> Radon_3: it's a sign that you talk to people who annoy you too much
[14:51] <Radon_3> not really
[14:51] <Radon_3> As a mtter of fact I think
[14:51] <Radon_3> It has something to do with magnetic fields and such
[14:51] <hitsujiTMO> new0: should have install grub to the mbr of your external drive... try boot the external on its own again
[14:52] <new0> hitsujiTMO, ok. i will take some commercial break lol :)
[14:52] <Radon_3> Does anyone know a Health IRC channel or something similar?
[14:52] <hitsujiTMO> !alis | Radon_3
[14:53] <romankrv> Hello! I update my Ubuntu server from version 10.04 to 12.04. Main goal was to set new python version from 2.6.4 to 2.7.3.  But default python-version  in Ubuntu 12.04 not set. Upgrade is not change. Can one help me - how to fix in without install source?
[14:54] <ecaz> Anyways, I added export PATH="/home/mysuername/Komodo-Edit-8/bin:$PATH" to my .profile but I still can't run Komodo Edit
[14:54] <Radon_3> Thanks ubottu. a LOT
[14:55] <romankrv> ecaz  Radon_3 : Use emacs and you became : a jedi!
[14:56] <chro> In which directory should I store application that I've downloaded?
[14:57] <ecaz> romankrv, guess I could try Emacs, since this Komodo thing isn't working out
[14:57] <ecaz> And I've always wanted to be a jedi
[14:58] <ankurk> Hey Guys, I am getting LockFile error when restarting Apache2
[14:58] <Radon_3> jedi???????
[14:58] <hitsujiTMO> romankrv: first check if 2.7 is acually installed: /usr/bin/python2.7 --version
[14:58] <Radon_3> What's that?
[14:58] <ankurk> And Here's my conf file.
[14:58] <ankurk> http://apaste.info/3irD
[14:59] <BuFF> hi
[14:59] <romankrv> hitsujiTMO: yes, it exist there!
[15:00] <ankurk> It's saying "Invalid command 'LockFile', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration"
[15:00] <BuFF> who knows how to enable shift+f2 on byobu inside putty?
[15:00] <hitsujiTMO> romankrv: if you want that to take over as the default python then: sudo ln -s /usr/bin/python2.7 /usr/bin/python
[15:02] <romankrv> hitsujiTMO:  Do you guess than my python was install correctly? It only some problem with override slink?
[15:03] <hitsujiTMO> romankrv: its installed correctly, it prob just left 2.6 as default incase it broke any of your existing apps
[15:04] <romankrv> Radon_3: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jedi
[15:04] <romankrv> hitsujiTMO: thanks a lot. My dear friend
[15:05] <fourq> Isn't it odd that system notifications are not clickable, and that they fade out just enough to be useless when you hover over them?
[15:05] <BuFF> jou people no-one uses byobu or screen?
[15:06] <fourq> <-- using screen
[15:06] <kostkon> fourq, ubuntu notifications are like that by design
[15:06] <fourq> kostkon: yeah I know, and I think it's odd
[15:06] <BuFF> fourq: maybe u know how to enable window splitting on screen inside putty?
[15:07] <romankrv> ecaz: Yes, you can
[15:07] <UrielVigilant> After a reinstall i cant find xsltproc anymore on ubuntu software center ? Why ?
[15:07] <fourq> BuFF: in putty? no clue
[15:07] <BuFF> fourq: google says to enable xterm r6 on putty but not helping
[15:07] <UrielVigilant> After an Ubuntu reinstall  i cant find xsltproc anymore on ubuntu software center ? Why ? What to do ?
[15:07] <BuFF> fourq: ok :)
[15:07] <fourq> sorry
[15:08] <UrielVigilant> I need it to install the deb packages of my scanner / printer
[15:08] <snyte> hi, could someone help me please, i am having trouble with a wifi key
[15:08] <hitsujiTMO> !find xsltproc
[15:08] <UrielVigilant> !find xsltproc
[15:08] <hitsujiTMO> UrielVigilant: try: sudo apt-get install xsltproc
[15:09] <romankrv> ecaz: for example: what about multi-cursor in your editor? Emacs can!  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNa3axo40qM
[15:10] <romankrv> Who use Emacs that He is really and naturally jedi!
[15:11] <new0> hitsujiTMO, still not working
[15:11] <chro> I have a link for an application in /usr/bin  how can I make that application appear when I press the super button and write its name in the launcher ?
[15:11] <hitsujiTMO> new0 still the exact same?
[15:11] <rampageRipper> is there a feature in document viewer by which when activated one could turn pages using left and right arrows?
[15:12] <fathi> hi there
[15:12] <new0> hitsujiTMO, the weird thing is that both of my usb was connected and until i haven't disconnected the 1TB drive my perdrive wont boot. yes exat same
[15:13] <UrielVigilant> !find hibernate
[15:13] <rampageRipper> new0: how much is 1TB usb?
[15:13] <new0> hitsujiTMO, another problem should i mention is: my pendrive doesn't keep all the changes at all. maybe it's the software i was setting up the perdrive?!
[15:13] <ecaz> romankrv, that's pretty cool
[15:13] <UrielVigilant> command pm-hibernate works for me , but i dont have an hibernate button when iam loge in in ubuntu 13.10
[15:13] <UrielVigilant> !find onlive
[15:14] <hitsujiTMO> new0: what version of ubuntu?
[15:14] <new0> rampageRipper, what do u mean? it's 1TB 2 partitions 1: my important data, 2: 20GB (left) my installed ubuntu 12.04.3 (i think)
[15:14] <rampageRipper> new0: i mean how much does it cost?
[15:14] <new0> hitsujiTMO, rampageRipper what is the command to show the ubuntu version?
[15:15] <bekks> new0: lsb_release -a
[15:15] <new0> rampageRipper, cost me 120$ at the time (2.5 years ago)
[15:15] <hitsujiTMO> new0: cat /etc/issue
[15:16] <new0> bekks, tnx. hitsujiTMO , rampageRipper  Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS
[15:16] <kssmani> hi friends
[15:16] <romankrv> hi
[15:16] <new0> Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l hitsujiTMO
[15:16] <jiajunwong> hi
[15:16] <kssmani> i am new to use ubuntu
[15:16] <jiajunwong> ;)
[15:17] <kssmani> which is the best alternative for ms office
[15:17] <romankrv> i am use MacOSX instand
[15:17] <bekks> !best | kssmani
[15:17] <romankrv> ubuntu - only on the server
[15:17] <new0> hitsujiTMO, rampageRipper bekks, well that's 2 issues i am counting. 1: my pendrive does NOT keep changes, 2: after installing ubuntu the HDD does NOT boot even to GRUB
[15:18] <TT_PP_RR> close
[15:18] <kssmani> alternative for ms offive 2010
[15:18] <hitsujiTMO> new0: the usb installer just never created a persistence file.
,well,I come from China,and I 'm using "WPS office",I think it's better than libreoffice
[15:18] <kssmani> alternetive for office
[15:18] <kssmani> 2010
[15:19] <hitsujiTMO> new0: i'm unsure as to why it wont boot from the hdd. seems a little odd
[15:19] <jiajunwong> kingsoft office
[15:19] <jiajunwong> linux.wps.cn
[15:19] <OerHeks> kssmani abiword is great. else see openoffice, libreoffice
[15:19] <new0> hitsujiTMO, bekks, rampageRipper, this is the program i use for the pendrive "Universal-USB-Installer-<IP_ADDRESS>.ext"
[15:20] <new0> hitsujiTMO, for me too
[15:20] <new0> hitsujiTMO, bekks, rampageRipper, maybe i should use another problem for the pendrive? or install ubuntu 10.04? i have the original CD
[15:20] <kssmani> open office is not opening the docx file properly
[15:21] <hitsujiTMO> new0 dont install 10.04 ... too old and not supported
[15:21] <romankrv> by by
[15:21] <bekks> kssmani: Nothing but Microsoft Office is offering the .docx format.
[15:21] <new0> hitsujiTMO, alright. than? what can i do? try to fix that? or try another pendrive setup program?
[15:22] <kssmani> i know that
[15:22] <hitsujiTMO> kssmani: if open/libre office has issues with the docx then try jiajunwong's suggestion of kingsoft office
[15:23] <new0> hitsujiTMO, is there a way for me to fix it?
[15:23] <hitsujiTMO> new0 what partition table is used on the 1tb drive? mbr or gpt?     does this give any errors about it being gpt?: fdisk /dev/sdb
[15:25] <new0> hitsujiTMO, sudo fdisk /dev/sdb does not give any result. also isn't gpt working on at least 2TB?
[15:25] <kssmani> thankx for the suggestions freinds
[15:26] <hitsujiTMO> new0 you can setup gpt on any size hdd ... its just needed for uefi or drives greater than 2tb.
[15:26] <bekks> new0: gpt works on all disks.
[15:26] <SuperLag> I'm trying to use gsettings in a script to modify what icons show up on the Unity Launcher. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6306902
[15:27] <hitsujiTMO> new0 what do you mean it does not give any results?
[15:27] <new0> hitsujiTMO, bekks ok. so... :) any advice?
[15:27] <SuperLag> I used gsettings get com.canonical.Unity.Launcher favorites to get that list... and simply removed the items I wanted taken out
[15:28] <new0> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/HVW51MJw
[15:28] <hitsujiTMO> new0: ok, quit out of that then... its bmr
[15:28] <hitsujiTMO> new0: mbr*
[15:29] <new0> hitsujiTMO, quit out.. meaning? ah ok. so if it's mbr then?
[15:29] <hitsujiTMO> mew0: can't think of what could be causing the failure then. grub is installed to the right drive, so you should at least get that far. maybe a bios limitation is preventing you from booting the partition
[15:30] <boern> who of you has experience with dota 2? because i can launch dota 2 but when i start the game its just black with some glitches.. when i use proprietary drivers i cant even start the game.. i have ubuntu 13.10 and a gtx 260..
[15:30] <boern> dota 2 for steam
[15:30] <hitsujiTMO> boern: also try #ubuntu-steam
[15:30] <new0> hitsujiTMO, is it possible the pendrive setup? about bios i am not sure. because the 1TB it is loaded for the live-cd
[15:32] <hitsujiTMO> new0: i mean some older bioses had trouble booting partitions beyond certain markers (unrelated to the mbr limitation)
[15:32] <OerHeks> boern, maybe you better ask in #ubuntu-steam
[15:32] <Patero> is there a way to make ubuntu server show the list of files with ls in megabytes instead then bytes
[15:32] <boern> i already did :)
[15:32] <boern> thanks
[15:32] <SuperLag> Patero: use the -h switch with ls
[15:33] <jiajunwong> ah...When I using a live CD of ubuntu 12.04.3,I cann't install it into my PC,too.
[15:33] <zykotick9> Patero: try "ls -h" for human readable
[15:33] <jiajunwong> But it works when the CD is 12.04.2
[15:33] <new0> hitsujiTMO, ok. how can i display my laptop version/model?
[15:33] <Patero> fascinating
[15:33] <SuperLag> Patero: If you're looking for things that are taking up disk space... I usually do "ls -lhS
[15:33] <SteveBell> hi all. trying to update a netbook fro m12.04LTS to 13.10. now on 12.10 but running into a black screen when booting
[15:34] <SuperLag> Patero: oops, there's more to that
[15:34] <SuperLag> Patero: If you're looking for things that are taking up disk space... I usually do "ls -lhS | less"
[15:34] <SuperLag> Patero: it puts the largest files at the top of the list
[15:34] <Patero> my gol was to compare a file I have with another one on internet site by exact mb size since on the internet site is listing it as MB
[15:34] <Patero> and my ls was showing bytes
[15:34] <SuperLag> Patero: I create an alias for that, and call it lS. :)
[15:34] <hitsujiTMO> Patero: you can also force a specific size with: ls -l --block-size=M
[15:35] <SteveBell> all I want is to continue the update path to 13.10 but I don't get into ubuntu anymore
[15:35] <SteveBell> it's known that this netboot has boot issues with 12.10 but now what?
[15:35] <hitsujiTMO> new0: usually looking at the base will get you that info? how old is it?
[15:35] <groundnuty_m> hey, I've made some changes using iw dev wlan0 set how do I make them applay after reboot?
[15:36] <new0> hitsujiTMO, it's VPCF12KFX
[15:36] <new0> hitsujiTMO, sony
[15:37] <hitsujiTMO> new0: that aint going to say if its got the issue i'm reffering to or not tho ... usually only way to find out is through running in to the issue ... do you have another external hdd or 8gb+ pendrive you can try and install ubuntu to?
[15:37] <zorael> Is there a tool/script to visualize which packages eat the most disk space?
[15:38] <new0> hitsujiTMO, do u have any idea how can i search for my sony VPCF12KFX problem? extral HDD USB not booting on ubuntu 12.04?
[15:38] <Trudko> guys I have two monitors. On one side I have full screen youtube video on second one i have editor. If I set video on fullscreen and then click on editor, full screen is canceled(firefox) why is that?
[15:38] <bekks> Trudko: Because clicking terminates the fullscreen.
[15:38] <hitsujiTMO> zorael: du -h --max-depth=1     is what i use to track disk usage
[15:39] <new0> hitsujiTMO, i have another HDD 2TB WD Green with Extranal case USB
[15:39] <hitsujiTMO> new0: i'm not sure considering its a very rare case that someone would boot a partition at the end of a drive
[15:39] <new0> hitsujiTMO, but i am really afraid to use that and play the that partitions (right now it's only one partition)
[15:40] <zorael> hitsujiTMO: dh is nice, but I want to see which /packages/ are eating up my disk
[15:40] <new0> hitsujiTMO, what do u mean? end of the drive? 2nd partition?
[15:41] <YoYoYoda> hello
[15:41] <YoYoYoda> i need help with a problem
[15:41] <hitsujiTMO> new0: yes. your boot partition starts 980gb into the drive ... which is very unusual and problematic with some older bioses
[15:41] <hitsujiTMO> !details YoYoYoda
[15:41] <YoYoYoda> kk
[15:41] <hitsujiTMO> !details | YoYoYoda
[15:41] <YoYoYoda> here it comes
[15:41] <odium> hi, I just spent a whole night trying to write a page of html5 with embeded videos, I reencoded a video a dozen times trying to get it right, only to find out that firefox on ubuntu doesn't know how to handle video files for some reason, anyone familiar with this problem?
[15:42] <new0> hitsujiTMO, older? 2010 it's older?
[15:42] <Trudko> bekks, can I turn it off can't I?
[15:42] <new0> hitsujiTMO, that could be ubuntu version  (12.04)problem? or mbr problem?
[15:43] <bekks> Trudko: No, not that I know of.
[15:43] <bekks> new0: Neither nor.
[15:45] <new0> hitsujiTMO, bekks  http://askubuntu.com/questions/304109/are-the-problems-with-installing-ubuntu-to-an-external-hard-drive-fixed-in-ubunt
[15:45] <hitsujiTMO> new0: ok, i meant older than that but ... it can still occur in newer bioses too. its a bios issue. its an old 137GB limit where bios would not boot a partition past that marker
[15:46] <SteveBell> ok, since the 12.10 ruined the booting action, is there any way to install 13.10 without loosing all previous settings?
[15:46] <new0> hitsujiTMO, so.. can i change that?
[15:46] <Trudko> bekks, i hope there is some way
[15:47] <KingCrimson__> I just got a "Your OS is out of date, would you like to upgrade to 13.10" Question is, do I want to do this?  Anyways I installed ubuntu off of my tower and just plugged my hdd back in my macbook pro(precise)/ Grub came up yay/ but i could only start ubuntu goin into recovery mode and then resume to normal boot/ my problem is
[15:47] <YoYoYoda> now that when i install the recommended drivers im aint gettin the system to boot up again
[15:47] <new0> hitsujiTMO, wait. how come the live-cd does boot for me?
[15:47] <test223232323> irc://freenode/%23%23java
[15:48] <new0> hitsujiTMO, also, is it slow down the booting proccess?
[15:48] <OerHeks> new0, maybe the 2nd bios item is your cdrom player with the live cd, as it would not find a boot partition on your ext hdd ( beyond 137 gb)
[15:48] <YoYoYoda> not at all
[15:48] <YoYoYoda> it just stays still by a underline
[15:48] <hitsujiTMO> new0: you cant if its an issue with the bios. (only by repartitioning the drive) ... you can try the boot-repair tool and see if that works. is the live cd installed on a partiton past the 137gb mark in a drive?
[15:48] <YoYoYoda> linkin
[15:48] <YoYoYoda> blinkin
[15:48] <new0> hitsujiTMO, and how can i see the booting sector location? OerHeks
[15:49] <NGabi> test
[15:49] <YoYoYoda> k ill install the livecd on he hdd w dd
[15:49] <YoYoYoda> ty
[15:49] <OerHeks> new0, sudo fdisk -l # and see the '*" flag
[15:50] <SteveBell> I can manage to get into the terminal and login there, but that's all.
[15:51] <SteveBell> so if anybody know how to update to 13.10 from within the termina
[15:51] <new0> OerHeks, not sure i understand u. hitsujiTMO where can i find this tool? and it was installed there, not the ubuntu is installed there.
[15:51] <SteveBell> l
[15:51] <SteveBell> ah "do-release-upgrade" seems to be for that
[15:52] <new0> hitsujiTMO, OerHeks http://pastebin.com/THVqKYqt
[15:53] <OerHeks> new0, sdb2 seems far beyond the 137 Gb
[15:53] <new0> hitsujiTMO, OerHeks ok. for summery: linux will boot only from EXT2/3/4 and if it's an USB it's should be at the begging of the drive. is that correct?
[15:54] <hitsujiTMO> new0: sudo add-apt-repository -y ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update
[15:54] <lolol> hi there , is there a way to convert flv to avi in linux
[15:54] <hitsujiTMO> new0: sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair && boot-repair
[15:54] <lolol> maybe with a software
[15:54] <lolol> ?
[15:55] <OerHeks> new0, correct, before the 137 gb limit
[15:55] <lolol> if anyone could help just let me know ;)
[15:56]  * YoYoYoda slaps lolol around a bit with a large trout
[15:56] <gordonjcp> lolol: ffmpeg maybe
[15:56] <new0> hitsujiTMO, ok. it's running. now...?
[15:57] <OerHeks> hitsujiTMO, does bootrepair correct that 137 gb limit ?
[15:57] <new0> OerHeks, hitsujiTMO, so i can boot from USB 3rd partition if it's before 137gb limit? and about regular HDD no limit?
[15:57] <NGabi>  	irc://freenode/%23%23java
[15:57] <lolol> thanks gordon :)
[15:58] <hitsujiTMO> OerHeks: no. just getting him to try it too see if it helps with his issue
[15:58] <OerHeks> NGabi, please stop that linking
[15:59] <hitsujiTMO> new0: the 137gb limit is an old bios limitation. it does not matter if booting internal drives or external. if its present, then you must have your boot partition before the limit
[15:59] <new0> hitsujiTMO, do i click the "Recommended repair?
[15:59] <new0> hitsujiTMO, ok
[16:00] <hitsujiTMO> new0: yes just go with the recommended repair
[16:01] <new0> hitsujiTMO, so what basicly it does?
[16:01] <hitsujiTMO> new0: if that doesnt
[16:01] <mOrO^> lolol: no maybes about it............Winff
[16:01] <new0> hitsujiTMO, do u have some link?
[16:01] <mOrO^> lolol: it should be in your repository
[16:01] <new0> hitsujiTMO, if, than?
[16:02] <new0> hitsujiTMO, OerHeks does it say much? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6307085/
[16:02] <hitsujiTMO> new0: it ensures that your mbr is correctly pointing to you grub partition and validates your grub. if that doesn't work try the advanced repair: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[16:02] <new0> hitsujiTMO, tnx
[16:03] <Daemoen> attempting to cleanup jdk installations, so have run the following via the cli
[16:03] <OerHeks> mOrO^, WinFF is just a GUI for the command line video converter, FFMPEG
[16:04] <mOrO^> OerHeks: well, if he needs to ask, he needs a GUI :)
[16:04] <Daemoen> ( which works ) dpkg -l *jdk* | grep -E "^ii" | awk '{print $2" "}' | tr -d "\n" | while read jdk; do echo "apt-get remove $jdk"; done      when i wrap it in a simple .sh it no longer functions; curious why
[16:05] <OerHeks> mOrO^, and ffmpeg is not being developed anymore and it suggests avconv instead.
[16:05] <PatrickDickey> Daemoen: You might want to ask that in #bash since it's a scripting question.
[16:05] <Daemoen> ahh, think i figured out why, doh
[16:06] <Daemoen> PatrickDickey: yeah, i just realized it was the bash side acting up and its probably the tr -d '\n'; since im removing all newlines, it never actually sends on to the pipe
[16:07] <PatrickDickey> So Daemoen, will your script remove all (Open and Oracle) jdk's or just older ones?
[16:07] <cer> hi everybody how do you sandbox an application on kubuntu / ubuntu? and how do you control the prequency of the processor? All the previous tools and toys do not work anymore (indicator-cpufreq, cpufreq and so on)
[16:07] <Daemoen> PatrickDickey: all.  there are conflicts,  im just doing this as the cleanup phase, our ansible management will go in afterward and reinstall the open correctly
[16:07] <testpil0t> Daemoen,
[16:07] <testpil0t> dpkg -l *jdk* | grep -E "^ii" | awk '{ print $2 }' | xargs apt-get --dry-run remove
[16:07] <testpil0t>  ?
[16:08] <testpil0t> (omit the --dry-run)
[16:08] <bekks> cer: If you want to sandbox an application, either use chroot or set it up in a vm.
[16:08] <Daemoen> testpil0t: yeah, was trying to do it as one apt-get instead of feeding it individual lines
[16:08] <testpil0t> about your .sh file. Did you specifiy the shell ?
[16:08] <testpil0t> Daemoen, it is one apt-get
[16:08] <testpil0t> (try it)
[16:09] <cer> bekks: it sounds a bit of an overkill .... what happened to ulimit, cpupower, cpufreq, cgroup
[16:09] <Daemoen> sweet, works for me.  tnx
[16:10] <Daemoen> so apt-get will accept a list with new line delimiter?
[16:10] <testpil0t> seems, yes
[16:10] <EugeneK> Hello. I use now kUbuntu 13 04 from Live USB and i can't install flash player. I only started learn Linux. Anyone help me?
[16:10] <Daemoen> cool.  good to know for future use :)
[16:10] <Daemoen> tnx
[16:10] <bekks> cer: ulimit does not sandbox at all and still exists. Never heard of cpupower, and cgroups are in use in current kernels, along with cpufreq.
[16:11] <cer> bekks: mmmm .... nope, cpufreq is not working
[16:11] <testpil0t> EugeneK, what did you do. and what does "i cant install" mean ?
[16:11] <cer> bekks: was working on previous releases
[16:11] <new0> hitsujiTMO, have u seen the report?
[16:11] <testpil0t> you dont know how t o ? Or does the install fail ?
[16:11] <hitsujiTMO> new0: yes ... have ro rebooted?
[16:11] <Ionut> hi, how to resolve this: gzip: stdout: No space left on device
[16:11] <new0> hitsujiTMO, not yet
[16:12] <testpil0t> Ionut, free some space then
[16:12] <hitsujiTMO> new0: then reboot and see if it works now
[16:12] <bekks> Ionut: Free up space.
[16:12] <cer> bekks: in other words, if you have an applications that is somewhat unstable and you need to run for testing, is there a way to limit the accessible resources (if you prefer)? ulimit culd be used that way.
[16:12] <EugeneK> testpil0t i can't see flash player installer in Muon Software center. where else i can download flash player?
[16:12] <bekks> cer: thats resource limitation, and it works using ulimit - still - and not sandboxing.
[16:12] <Ionut> testpil0t & bekks: how :)) i'm new on ubuntu :)
[16:12] <new0> hitsujiTMO, ok
[16:12] <cer> bekks: what do you mean?
[16:12] <bekks> cer: ulimit still works perfectly.
[16:13] <testpil0t> Ionut, delete some files
[16:13] <UrielVigilant> After reinstall Ubuntu 13.10 with erase disk option, iam dont able to find lsb on ubuntu software center
[16:13] <UrielVigilant> I need it to install epson driver i have
[16:14] <testpil0t> EugeneK, you have to enable restricted items in the software center
[16:14] <luminous> hello! I'm trying to run pycharm in vnc. I can run it fine on the host system, but when run over vnc, it doesn't seem to find the correct display. any idea on how I can tell pycharm to connect to Xvnc?
 Not yet. plz tell me how to enable
[16:15] <hitsujiTMO> UrielVigilant: try with apt-get
[16:15] <IAmNotARobot> Hi
[16:16] <IAmNotARobot> What are the main changes brought in by 13.10?
[16:16] <UrielVigilant> hitsujiTMO:    sudo apt-get -f install lsb       ?
[16:16] <EugeneK> in Software center, when  i wrote in search, "Flash" there is not flash player in list.
[16:16] <hitsujiTMO> !13.10 | IAmNotARobot
[16:16] <UrielVigilant> dir
[16:16] <hitsujiTMO> UrielVigilant: you can simply do: sudo apt-get install lsb
[16:16] <IAmNotARobot> ty
[16:16] <odium> how can I make firefox understand that x264 encoded mp4s should be played
[16:16] <Ionut> testpil0t: Usage of /:   2.8% of 457.18GB & => /boot is using 99.1% of 227MB
[16:17] <odium> if it works fine in windows?
[16:18] <Gallomimia> odium: that's part of ff settings window
[16:18] <luminous> no one uses Xvnc? :P
[16:19] <hitsujiTMO> Ionut: you need to purge old kernels: whats the output of: uname -r      and: dpkg --get-selections | grep "linux-image"
[16:19] <Gallomimia> the applications tab
[16:19] <odium> luminous: I do extensively
[16:19] <s1lv3r0> s
[16:20] <s1lv3r0> !list
[16:20] <cer> bekks: /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/ does not even exist anymore .... how could cpufreq work?
[16:20] <bekks> luminous: Maybe no one uses pycharm.
[16:20] <luminous> turns out it is a java app
[16:21] <bekks> cer: Which kernel do you use?
[16:21] <luminous> so maybe java will respect $DISPLAY
[16:21] <hitsujiTMO> cer: the governor has changed is all
[16:21] <Gallomimia>  aw .
[16:21] <cer> bekks: 3.11.0-12-generic
[16:21] <cer> hitsujiTMO: what do you mean?
[16:22] <luminous> hrm. almost.
[16:22] <cer> hitsujiTMO: how do you manually control the frequency now? how do you change the governor manually now?
[16:22] <Ari-Yang> !xfce
[16:22] <hitsujiTMO> Ionut: sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.2.0-29-generic-pae linux-image-3.2.0-36-generic-pae linux-image-3.2.0-37-generic-pae linux-image-3.2.0-38-generic-pae linux-image-3.2.0-39-generic-pae linux-image-3.2.0-41-generic-pae  linux-image-3.2.0-45-generic-pae linux-image-3.2.0-48-generic-pae linux-image-3.2.0-49-generic-pae
[16:22] <Ionut> hitsujiTMO: 10x
[16:23] <IAmNotARobot> I tried removing XFCE and now Im stuck with the xfce loading screen at boot time
[16:23] <IAmNotARobot> ffs
[16:23] <smjd> Why is aptitude so eager to remove everything when I'm trying to install something?
[16:23] <hitsujiTMO> cer: i dont know the specifics of the change but inducator-cpufreq works on the new kernel
[16:23] <inahd> hello ubuntu
[16:23] <Ionut> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/kx6X3jUw  :|
[16:24] <hitsujiTMO> Ionut: try: sudo apt-get -f install
[16:24] <inahd> no one could help me in the linuxmint forum, after installing i am brought to this EFI shell "device mapping table" blah blah blah
[16:25] <hitsujiTMO> ionut: then run that last line again
[16:25] <hitsujiTMO> !mint | inahd
[16:25] <inahd> dang
[16:25] <bob__> Just did a fresh install of 13.10 . I'm having troubles with my dual monitor display where X hangs sometimes when dragging a window to the top edge to maximize. Has anyone expireanced this?
[16:26] <inahd> yeah mint forum had nothing to suggest...
[16:26] <Ionut> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/rDE1ZQbq again gzip: stdout: No space left on device
[16:26] <hitsujiTMO> inahd: then maybe you should install an operating system that has support
[16:26] <cer> hitsujiTMO: actually it does not, nor does cpufreq-utils work (or I would not have come to the room)
[16:27] <hitsujiTMO> cer: it is working for me without a problem ... must be an issue with your setup
[16:28] <hitsujiTMO> cer: what cpu are you using?
[16:28] <cer> hitsujiTMO: I do not really think so .... I have reinstalled from scratch.
[16:28] <cer> hitsujiTMO: x7900 extreme unlocked
[16:28] <cer> hitsujiTMO: and that has always worked (using cpufrequtils for example)
[16:30] <hitsujiTMO> ionut: ok, you can try moving out some of the older kernels from /boot manually to make space ... then run sudo: apt-get -get -f install
[16:31] <hitsujiTMO> cer: maybe you should report this as a bug. support for your cpu may be missing in the kernel
[16:32] <DreamPCs> Hey guys, hopefully this is a quick fix but how do I add an extension to all files in a particular folder?
[16:32] <DreamPCs> All the files currently do not have a extension, I just need to add one.
[16:32] <DreamPCs> Preferably I can do them all at once instead of one at a time. (It's the same extension I need to add to all of them.)
[16:32] <cer> hitsujiTMO: do you mean the kernel developer have intentionally removed support for a cpu from the kernel (that was actually supported)?
[16:32] <jhutchins> DreamPCs: Files don't really need extensions in *nix.
[16:33] <jhutchins> DreamPCs: you could probably do a find loop to rename them, or there's a bulk-rename script.
[16:33] <hitsujiTMO> cer: not intentionally, it seems there were changes to the governor and your cpu may have been affected by the changes
[16:33] <DreamPCs> Well XBMC won't play my mp3 files unless they have the extension
[16:33] <DreamPCs> I coped the files from one XBMC to another (from an original Xbox to a machine running XBMCbuntu)
[16:33] <cer> hitsujiTMO: can I read anywhere about these changes to the governor, because i haev been googling around for a week now.
[16:34] <DreamPCs> But for some reason the extensions didn't copy over.
[16:34] <jhutchins> hitsujiTMO: So we have someone besides AMD & Intel making new CPUs with different specs now?
[16:35] <bekks> hitsujiTMO: If support would be missing, that thing wouldnt even boot linux.
[16:36] <hitsujiTMO> jhutchins: cer: no i mean the changes are made to how you can interact with the governor: considering /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/ does not exist anymore
[16:36] <cer> bekks: that is actually incorrect. It could be missing support for frequency adjustement, but have support for the generic X86_64.
[16:36] <cer> hitsujiTMO: yes, but where can we find any information about these changes? I cannot actually find anything anywhere.
[16:37] <hitsujiTMO> cer: i'm unsure: your not the first to have brought up the issue in here. however you are the first that the tools wont work with whatever changes have been made
[16:38] <lolol> when using winff , you cannot open the avi file before it completely converts from flv to avi ??
[16:38] <ankrj> Hello, can anyone tell me how I can apply for the Ubuntu Server membership on Launchpad?
[16:39] <cer> hitsujiTMO: are you sure? there was another discussion around a few days ago and he / she did not seem to haev it solved at all.
[16:40] <hitsujiTMO> cer: yes, he returned after his issue was fixed with installing indicator-cpufreq
[16:40] <Ionut> hitsujiTMO: /dev/sda1                  233191    27077    193673  13% /boot
[16:40] <Jeeves_Moss> how can I make sure that a service restarts if it crashes?
[16:41] <testpil0t> Jeeves_Moss, as the easiest way, i'd just write some cronjob, which periodically checks it
[16:41] <OerHeks> lolo you can try, but i would wait for it to finish
[16:42] <lolol> OerHeks : it seems it doenst open at all
[16:42] <lolol> in the process of convertion
[16:42] <OerHeks> lolol logically it cannot, as it grows per second
[16:42] <hitsujiTMO> Ionut: have you tried: sudo apt-get - install      now?
[16:42] <hitsujiTMO> Ionut: have you tried: sudo apt-get -f install      now?
[16:43] <lolol> oh ic
[16:43] <lolol> it takes quite a long time to finish the convertion right?
[16:44] <Ionut> hitsujiTMO: i user webmin interface for update/upgrade and it's work
[16:44] <OerHeks> lolol depends on your cpu power, but yes, 2-3-4-5 times the length of the video
[16:45] <OerHeks> lolol i have seen a macbook pro converting on-the-fly, with a 4-core and CUDA
[16:46] <Gallomimia> alright. what process is responsible for all those popups in the top right for so and so online and volume up down and all that garbage? second question: how do i kill it dead, and configure it never to return?
[16:47] <UrielVigilant> my ubuntu 13.10 is hibernating normal with :   sudo pm-hibernate but how to make it appear a button to hibernate on menu ?
[16:47] <eer> Where are the vars actually stored that can be revealed via env or set?
[16:48] <Gallomimia> eer you mean on the command line?
[16:48] <eer> Gallomimia, yes
[16:48] <Gallomimia> in the program memory for bash, my theory is heap side
[16:50] <eer> Gallomimia, but they must be stored somewhere on the disk, so they are available after the next reboot
[16:51] <hitsujiTMO> eer: they are not 'stored' in disk, many of the vars are initialised during boot and login by various scripts
[16:51] <jhutchins> eer: They are in various scripts and profiles, /etc/profile, /etc/bashrc, etc. depending on which shell you use.
[16:52] <hitsujiTMO> eer: is there a particular var you are interested in changing?
[16:53] <eer> I know in /etc/profile ~/.profile /etc/bashrc and ~/.bashrc but do those cover all that can be shown with env or set?
[16:53] <PatrickDickey> If you want to change a var for your user only, it would most likely be in .bashrc or .profile inside of your /home/user directory though.
[16:54] <wrl_> Has anyone had trouble upgrading from 13.04 to 13.10?  I'm trying to decide if I should file a bug report and if it would even be possible to supply the necessary information for a bug report.
[16:54] <rosco_y> How can I record a desktop session (console application + audio to speakers) to a ogg file?
[16:54] <hitsujiTMO> eer: no, there are many other places where vars get set.
[16:54] <hitsujiTMO> wrl_: whats the exact issue?
[16:54] <jhutchins> wrl_: Yes, lots of people.
[16:55] <PatrickDickey> eer: I think if you tell us which vars you want to set specifically, we'll probably be able to tell you where to set them.
[16:55] <rosco_y> wrl_: My upgrade went very smooth, I'm glad I did it
[16:55] <eer> I want to know how I can find out where to change a var permanently that I can see with the set command. In general.
[16:55] <jhutchins> eer: There's also /etc/profile.d
[16:55] <Gallomimia> eer: the best thing to do is read the man for your shell program and watch for all the initialization scripts it mentions, then read all those scripts and look for references to other scripts
[16:55] <eer> I want to know where I can look it up rather than asking for every single var.
[16:56] <Gallomimia> wrl_: yup. i had trouble but the installer fixed it itself...
[16:56] <rosco_y> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables
[16:56] <pcoder> Hi, I am on ubuntu 12.04 and I have problems with sound. It works fine in a Gnome session. Could someone please help?
[16:56] <bekks> eer: You cant look it up since it depends on the variable, where to change it.
[16:56] <eer> Can one search the man pages for vars?
[16:56] <testpil0t> eer how you mean ?
[16:57] <testpil0t> you can search like you do when using less
[16:57] <PatrickDickey> eer: http://askubuntu.com/questions/164586/environment-variables-where-are-they-stored-by-linux-how-do-i-change-them-and might give you something useful
[16:57] <wrl_> I upgraded in stages from 12.04LTS and received an error that a program failed to install (lpsd of some such, I can check the log). The 13.04 upgrade seemed to work fine.  When I tried to upgrade to 13.10 the upgrader just vanished part way through.  Since it was setting up I figured that it probably completed and tried to reboot.  Bad decision!
[16:57] <eer> rosco_y,  thx. Great link.
[16:58] <eer> PatrickDickey, thx
[16:58] <Jpmh> what file contains the ipv4 settings for my wirless connections.  I can change them by right-clicking on the nm-tool but would like to access the file directly
[16:59] <PatrickDickey> Jpmh: /etc/network/interfaces would be the place. But, if you're using network manager, you make the changes in it instead. They won't necessarily show up in that file.
[17:00] <jhutchins> Jpmh: I think NM stores them in a hidden folder in $HOME
[17:00] <eer> Thx all.
[17:01] <Ace> !help mkdir
[17:01] <jhave> Hello
[17:01] <Ace> Hi
[17:01] <jhave> I have a problem whit apt-get
[17:02] <wrl_> like what
[17:02] <jhave> i got this error http://paste.jdh.dk/19
[17:02] <MonkeyDust> jhave  let's hear it
[17:02] <Ace> how to create file name with space in CLI
[17:03] <Gallomimia> quotes or backslash escaping
[17:03] <Ace> mkdir filename\ second ?
[17:03] <labcoattech> hi all
[17:03] <neurochrome> Can't seem to find any information on whether you can turn the autohide feature OFF for the Global menu in 13.10 (with additional tweak software).  Is this possible?
[17:03] <jhave> ace, touch "file name" ?
[17:03] <MonkeyDust> Ace  try blah\ blah2
[17:03] <eer> control+k deleted from the cursor position to the end of the line. What was the key combination again to delete form cursor to the end of the next word?
[17:03] <Gallomimia> examples given.
[17:03] <labcoattech> I have just installed ubuntu 13.10 x64 on a ssd drive, how can I check to see if trim is enabled and working
[17:03] <Ace> yess..! fixed
[17:04] <Ace> Thx jhave MonkeyDust
[17:04] <Ace> i spend 15 min to find out in google
[17:04] <jhave> no problem :)
[17:04] <MonkeyDust> jhave  sudo apt-get update first
[17:04] <Gallomimia> ace search for a book titled "The Linux Command Line" or TLCL
[17:04] <Gallomimia> free to download. take a course at your own pace to teach extensive bash usage
[17:05] <MonkeyDust> books are so 1980's
[17:05] <jhave> MonkeyDust, i have do "apt-get update & apt-get upgrade"
[17:05] <Gallomimia> but it's not really a book. it's a pdf file
[17:05] <Ace> The Linux Command Line by By William Shotts
[17:05] <Ace> ?
[17:06] <jhave> There are a lot of books
[17:06] <Gallomimia> can't remember the author's name alas, but probably. there's only one out there
[17:06] <Ace> ok
[17:06] <Ace> Thxx!!
[17:06] <Gallomimia> this one's particularly good for the command line basics
[17:06] <PatrickDickey> Jpmh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager#Editing_Network_Settings_in_GConf or maybe https://wiki.gnome.org/NetworkManager/SystemSettings
[17:07] <jhave> MonkeyDust, have you an ide to solve the error ?
[17:07] <caloda> hi
[17:08] <caloda> how do I download javascript for ubuntu?
[17:08] <MonkeyDust> jhave  no, sorry
[17:09] <MonkeyDust> caloda  javascript is a server-side language, not something you download... start from the beginning, what goes wrong
[17:09] <MonkeyDust> client-side*
[17:10] <Carao> Um, hello, I'm on Lubuntu 13.10, basically, I have a Motorola SD5102 Cable Modem which has no port forwarding capabilities nor firewall, it's just a modem, ufw is disabled and I can download torrents just fine at normal speeds however any and all listening ports for Transmission 2.82 I've tried seem to be closed (confirmed by canyouseeme.org)
[17:10] <Carao> this is something related specifically to either Transmission or Lubuntu given the fact that everything was working fine a few days ago when I was still running utorrent and windows
[17:11] <Gallomimia> 5102 gives you a pure public ip
[17:11] <Gallomimia> very valuable. plus you can flash them
[17:11] <gordonjcp> Carao: so the machine you've got it hooked to, that has a real live IP address and you're not behind NAT?
[17:11] <dab> Carao: can you telnet from your linux box to the port you need open?
[17:11] <Carao> um, what? I'm a noob, sorry
[17:12] <Gallomimia> open terminal and type ping localhost port
[17:12] <gordonjcp> Carao: is this the machine you're connected from, right now?
[17:12] <Gallomimia> for the port number that transmission is listening on
[17:12] <Carao> gordonjcp: yes
[17:12] <Carao> Gallomimia: ok
[17:12] <wNz> if you can ping a port i'll eat my hat
[17:12] <gordonjcp> Carao: aren't you running CentOS?
[17:12] <Gallomimia> did i say ping? i meant telnet :(
[17:12] <wNz> :)
[17:12] <wNz> hehe
[17:13] <Gallomimia> ta very much
[17:13] <Carao> gordonjcp: no, at least I don't think so since I don't even know what that is
[17:13] <dab> anyone know much about LVM on raid? i booted from an install USB but pvscan says no physical volumes found .. the LVM is already there and i can boot from it - i want to try resizing partitions and i have to boot from the install USB
[17:13] <Gallomimia> wNz i almost added the -c flag with a reasonable number like 3
[17:13] <wNz> heh
[17:13] <MonkeyDust> dab  is that a server? if yes, try asking in #ubuntu-server
[17:14] <bekks> dab: you have to assemble the raid manually.
[17:14] <dab> MonkeyDust: will do - thanks
[17:14] <wNz> dab: wat. lvm raid? like, the raid type, or built on top of a raid? is the usb the volume you're looking for? is this software raid? dmraid?
[17:14] <Carao> Gallomimia: says "connected to localhost"
[17:14] <Gallomimia> success.
[17:14] <Gallomimia> now find your public ip by typing "what is my ip" into google and do telnet thatip thatport
[17:14] <dab> wNz: there is a 4 drive raid 10 that is a hardware raid ... then there is an LVM on top of that
[17:14] <Gallomimia> ctrl C to quit the telnet program within terminal
[17:15] <Carao> 'k
[17:15] <hitsujiTMO> carao: what is the output of: ifconfig
[17:15] <wNz> dab: hardware raid should be assembled at boot time. do you see the array?
[17:15] <Gallomimia> (don't paste that in here. use pastebin)
[17:16] <Carao> still trying with telnet myip, sorry for the delay
[17:17] <caloda> MonkeyDust: I remember you should download something for use javascript
[17:17] <Gallomimia> Carao what hitsujiTMO asked you for is also very useful in finding out what your network looks like so we can tell whats going on
[17:17] <dab> wNz: if i do 'frisk -l' i see 3 disks ... /dev/mapper/isw_.....RAID1, RAID2, RAID5
[17:17] <wN> dab: i would use the 'pvs -a' commadn to check to see if your array is listed. if it is not, it will never be seen
[17:17] <caloda> how do I download javascript for ubuntu?
[17:17] <caloda> iced?
[17:18] <hitsujiTMO> caloda: what exactly do you need javascript for?
[17:18] <wN> dab: i believe that indicates you're using firmware raid (not hardware). it's built in /dev/mapper/? gross
[17:18] <Gallomimia> caloda such software does not exist. what are you trying to do? javascript is enabled by default in firefox
[17:18] <caloda> hitsujiTMO: for firefox
[17:19] <wN> dab: i would use pvs -a to see if it's listed there (it shoudl list all available devices). if its not, lvm will never see it
[17:19] <dab> wN: in pas -a, i see the devices ... /dev/dm-0 -1 and -2 ... if i ls -l /dev/mapper, those 3 raids link to those /dev/dm-0 etc
[17:19] <hitsujiTMO> caloda: javascript os built into firefox  ... do you mean "java"
[17:19] <Carao> Gallomimia and hitsujiTMO, yeah, but the console just said "unable to connect to remote host - connection timed out" just this second, hence the delay
[17:19] <Carao> let me do the ifconfig thing
[17:19] <caloda> Gallomimia: no its not. not working for me
[17:19] <caloda> ?
[17:19] <wN> dab: can you pastebin the output?
[17:19] <caloda> hitsujiTMO: yes java
[17:20] <Gallomimia> this means that something's blocking the port
[17:20] <Gallomimia> that's different.
[17:20] <hitsujiTMO> caloda: java is not the same thing as javascript :P  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[17:20] <wrl_> isn't java part of the basic installation?
[17:20] <Carao> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/jYkrjpsf
[17:20] <Gallomimia> i seem to remember having to do something to get it working
[17:20] <hitsujiTMO> wrl_ no
[17:20] <dab> wN: ya just a sec
[17:21] <Iordanis> hello
[17:21] <Gallomimia> carao you are behind a router.
[17:21] <Iordanis> I am trying to find an open source ubuntu alternative to RobCad
[17:21] <Carao> how is that even possible? I don't have one
[17:21] <Iordanis> can someone help me?
[17:21] <hitsujiTMO> Carao: you are behind a router and need nat forwarding
[17:21] <Gallomimia> you have a private ip
[17:21] <Gallomimia> it does not match your public ip which we can see in irc
[17:21] <Carao> oh wow
[17:22] <Iordanis> http://goo.gl/hkAEh3
[17:22] <Gallomimia> any other hardware in your setup?
[17:22] <Gallomimia> or there's one single ethernet cable between the modem and the comp?
[17:22] <wrl_> There must be a dependency on something I normally load then because I can't remember explicitly installing java for years now
[17:22] <Iordanis> any ubuntu alternative to this software? http://goo.gl/hkAEh3
[17:22] <Patero-ng> anyone here knows about w3m? like how to change the url... so far I have to exit the program and rerun the program with a new url
[17:22] <Carao> it's just my modem with an ethernet cable going to the CPU
[17:22] <caloda> hitsujiTMO: okay thanks. so what I need is openjdk-7-jre and icedtea-7-plugin , right?
[17:22] <troulouliou_dev> hi i plugged a pci card in my desktop computer but i can't see it in lspci ; what else can i do ?
[17:23] <hitsujiTMO> caloda: that should get you going yes
[17:23] <Gallomimia> carao then it's your isp which has the router, and is giving you a private ip instead of a public  :(
[17:23] <caloda> hitsujiTMO: ok thanks
[17:23] <Gallomimia> sadness. probably can't do anything about it
[17:23] <Patero-ng> hitsujiTMO: do u know about my issue with w3m
[17:23] <Iordanis> any open source ubuntu alternative to http://goo.gl/hkAEh3?
[17:23] <hitsujiTMO> Patero-ng: what issue? images?
[17:24] <Patero-ng> hitsujiTMO: lol no how to change url without quitting program
[17:24] <Carao> Gallomimia: ok thanks, that's actually a big help, now that I know I can't do anything about it and it's not Lubuntu I'll just bitch at my ISP
[17:24] <dab> wN: https://www.evernote.com/shard/s323/sh/e4b738fc-9768-4ac5-ae8c-a40833aa311b/168ec3b8e42adb93aae17aaefe3386c6
[17:24] <wN> dab: this shows that those 3 devices do not have LVM On them
[17:24] <Patero-ng> Carao: eres portugues?
[17:25] <Carao> Patero-ng: nope, but people seem to think that a lot
[17:25] <Patero-ng> Carao: where are u from
[17:25] <wN> dab: we can manually check out the metadata using this command: hexdump -Cn512 -s512 /dev/dm-X
[17:25] <Gallomimia> Carao good luck. they usually have done such a thing for limits with their addressing or specifically so you can't do this. you might consider a VPN or a seedbox as a work around
[17:25] <wN> dab: change the X to the correct device
[17:25] <minimec> Carao: Well... You have a 10.xx.xx.xx address. This is normally used for secured connections 'vpn'. If you had a 192.xx.xx.xx adresss, you would have a local network with router.
[17:26] <Carao> not the USA, and I'm hispanic, but not from brazil or portugal
[17:26] <Carao> @ Patero-ng
[17:26] <Patero-ng> Carao: I live in UT,USA and I'm originally from peru
[17:26] <dab> wN: i will try that ... also this shows that there is LVM on the dm-2 at p5 https://www.evernote.com/shard/s323/sh/2ef31e23-b325-4a47-8918-317671398755/6b8c552e24502d1f194833930885e358
[17:26] <Carao> minimec: meaning what?
[17:27] <Carao> Patero-ng: I'm from Costa Rica, born, raised, and living in
[17:27] <Carao> hola
[17:27] <Carao> :D
[17:27] <Gallomimia> and your isp is called TelecableCR
[17:27] <Patero-ng> Carao: have you been to ubuntu-es
[17:27] <Carao> Gallomimia: yup
[17:27] <minimec> Carao: Meaning... Your problems are related to that secured connection, IMHO.
[17:28] <dab> wN: hexdump not found :( I'm on the install CD ... I'm thinking i need to install a full bpotable ubuntu usb
[17:28] <wN> dab: does /dev/dm-0p5 exist? ls -l /dev/dm-0p5
[17:28] <Gallomimia> good point Patero-ng people in the espanol channel might have run into problems specific to telecablecr
[17:28] <Carao> minimec: but is it something I did and can undo, or is it my ISP? again, sorry, I'm a noob
[17:28] <wN> dab: (its not listed in the pvs output so its not being scanned)
[17:28] <Carao> Patero-ng: no I haven't, not yet anyway
[17:28] <hitsujiTMO> Patero-ng: its been a while since i've used w3m so i'm after forgetting the key combo, but it is possible
[17:28] <Gallomimia> if you're a noob, we're assuming you're not ALREADY using a vpn to mask your connection, therefore it's that cable modem doing it
[17:29] <wN> dab: i have a confession. i dont use ubuntu at all, but in red hat distros dm-X devices are NOT probed for partitions. I suspect its the same for debian. Yuo can try forcing the probe with 'partprobe /dev/dm-0' or 'kpartx -a /dev/dm-0' and then chekc to see if /dev/dm-0p5 is created.
[17:30] <dab> wN: ls -l /dev/dm* only shows dm-0, dm-1, and dm-2 but not any of the partitions ... do the physical drives have to some how be attached for those to be read?
[17:30] <Carao> ah, I see... once again, time to bitch at my ISP
[17:30] <Carao> thanks Gallomimia hitsujiTMO and minimec
[17:30] <Gallomimia> welcome
[17:30] <wN> dab: i doubt the dm-X devices are probed for partitions
[17:30] <Gallomimia> keep calm and torrent on
[17:30] <dab> wN: partprobe not found :(
[17:30] <minimec> Carao: That is a good question. If your 'Motorola' device is a simple modem, you should see the IP, we can see here. If your 'Motorola' device was a router, you would normally have a IP in the 192.xx.xx.xx range, unless the router is configured differently.
[17:31] <wN> dab: try the kpartx
[17:32] <dab> wN: hm - kpartx worked, but instead of dm-2p1 etc i see dm-3 through 7
[17:32] <minimec> Carao: You seem to have a connection like... "I am connected to the internet, but I have a 2nd connection to let's say to the intranet of my university."
[17:32] <wN> dab: thats fine. dm-0p5 is only the way fdisk displays them. it doesnt make sense for the abstraction layer to build them that way
[17:32] <Gallomimia> minimec: negative. sb5102 is a cablemodem designed to service one device or byor/ap very nice device which you can flash and take over and try hacking your provider's network with. i have one myself which i've experimented with, but telling someone how to do so anywhere on this irc network is a great way to get banned forthwith
[17:32] <wN> dab: re-run your pvscan
[17:32] <wN> dab: and do that kpartx with all 3 of those devices
[17:32] <anoop> need help with configuring /etc/security/limit.conf?
[17:33] <anoop> sorry limits.conf
[17:33] <Gallomimia> minimec: but it seems to me that his setup is given by dhcp, not some vpn software as would be the case in that situation
[17:33] <dab> wN: ah! no need - it looks like that was the right one ... if i run pvscan now i can see it
[17:33] <Carao> minimec: mm yeah, I'm blaming my ISP for everything, even though I find it odd that despite this strange setup you guys uncovered, windows was able to seed properly
[17:33] <dab> wN: https://www.evernote.com/shard/s323/sh/46417adc-b09a-42d8-9f35-b70c3cd09a0d/757f94425bb7cbcc1b0598986de38db1
[17:34] <Gallomimia> maybe it's uPNP?
[17:34] <Carao> Gallomimia: a friend of mine said that, but neither he, nor I, know how to fix that
[17:34] <Gallomimia> if you still have your windows boot drive setup it would be valuable to boot into windows and see if that machine gets the same 10.x ip address set up
[17:34] <wN> dab: good deal :)
[17:34] <Gallomimia> it should be part of the setup in transmission
[17:34] <dab> wN: awesome thanks :D
[17:35] <wN> dab: now, how to get this work without manually probing for partitions on the devices? i have no idea. perhaps somebody in here can offer some help, or ask the guys in #lvm. they're the upstream developers
[17:35] <Carao> Gallomimia: oh the upnp option's checked, but my friend says it's probably not working
[17:36] <dab> wN: well it appears to work fine when i actually try to boot from it - but i didn't know that was a room ... i'll check it out for sure
[17:36] <wN> w0rd
[17:36] <Gallomimia> carao: appears not. it's possible to get a readout of all upnp actions which would then reveal success/failure on portmappings, or a lack of attempting
[17:37] <Carao> Gallomimia: huh, that's weird, I just checked Transmission's settings and it's checked
[17:38] <Gallomimia> Carao: i think the next step is to test what ip's other devices get when plugged into your modem. including other os's on your rig
[17:38] <Gallomimia> and... WHY CANT I CHANGE THE COLOR OF MY TEXT :(
[17:38] <Brazil_Website> All about Python, Perl, Shell Script, Debian, Android, Linux, Ubuntu, Games and more - SuperFAQ - www.superfaq.com.br
[17:40] <Carao> Gallomimia: all I have on my HDD is Lubuntu but for the sake of learning wth is wrong and not switching back to ms win I'm willing to set up a virtual machine or make a XP partition
[17:40] <anoop> How to notify users about crossing file size limit specified by /etc/security/limits.conf?
[17:40] <Gallomimia> the virtual machine will tell us nothing, but what sorts of things do you have in your network setup?
[17:41] <stevecoh1> Hey, Dr. Willis, thanks for your advice last night.  Have decided for now that XUbuntu desktop is the best workaround for me.  (Problem was extreme unity slowness).
[17:41] <Carao> meaning what? noob here, remember?
[17:41] <Gallomimia> did you do anything to it?
[17:41] <Carao> nope, everything's default
[17:41] <Carao> or ISP-default anyway
[17:41] <Gallomimia> what setup did you do when you installed ubuntu/
[17:41] <Gallomimia> just.... "get ip address auto"
[17:42] <Carao> I didn't even go into the console when installing
[17:42] <Gallomimia> well, no the gui installer would have some option for it
[17:42] <Carao> maybe I should've
[17:42] <Carao> oh
[17:42] <Gallomimia> nah default is good
[17:43] <Gallomimia> just that your isp's default appears to be a private network. we still don't know why the windows partition worked while linux does not.\
[17:43] <Patero-ng> hitsujiTMO: it's esc + u
[17:43] <Patero-ng> hitsujiTMO: btw why don't you use w3m is way faster
[17:43] <new0> hitsujiTMO, hey, it didn't work. anyway question: if i install ubuntu 10.04 what is that mean no support?
[17:43] <wilx> Hi.
[17:43] <nongeek> Hello All
[17:43] <new0> hitsujiTMO, no software for it?
[17:43] <wilx> So. I have Radeon HD 5670.
[17:43] <Patero-ng> wilx: I have 5770 ja
[17:43] <wilx> And I have removed fglrx and installed the radeon driver.
[17:43] <nongeek> How can I write a bash script that connec to a server via ssh and automatically accept password
[17:44] <Carao> Gallomimia: think I should make a windows partition and give you guys whatever data I find on it
[17:44] <hitsujiTMO> new0, no new anything for it. it's end of life.
[17:44] <Gallomimia> carao probably :/
[17:44] <new0> hitsujiTMO, another one. is it possible to play around with partitioning and reside the partition 1 to 20GB without loosing datas?
[17:44] <Gallomimia> nongeek use private/public key authentication
[17:44] <wilx> And it does not work. The LightDM log in screen works fine but when I log in, upper half of my screen is garbage and lower part is just the log in screen bitmap.
[17:44] <new0> hitsujiTMO, but i can still programming with old stuff right?
[17:45] <nongeek> Gallomimia: How?
[17:45] <wilx> How can I nuke the XFCE session I have there, assuming something from the session is broken.
[17:45] <wilx> ?
[17:45] <Carao> Gallomimia: alright I'll go make that partition, do you think this issue is fixable or should I just give up and/or call my ISP?
[17:45] <hitsujiTMO> new0: you'd have to continuously shrink 1, expand 2, copy data until you're at the right size. might be easier to back whats on the partition to the 2tb drive
[17:45] <Gallomimia> nongeek: stackoverflow.com/q/363519
[17:46] <Gallomimia> carao: i'm imagining that the phone wait with your isp and the install of the windows are going to take the same unfathomably long amount of time, so might as well start both
[17:46] <Carao> point taken
[17:46] <hitsujiTMO> Patero-ng: i've only ever needed w3m in imergency situaltions ... i'm almost always sshing into a box and have full browser around
[17:47] <new0> hitsujiTMO, yes. with all my data for now i was able to free some space, but, i still have to clear another 250GB from all my HDDs. so is there safe partition program i can do it?
[17:47] <Carao> k then, thanks again for all the help, I'll be back at some point with whatever findings I get
[17:48] <sIRwa2> Hi, Q: is it possible to bind a key to bash script without unity/kde/gnome and such?
[17:48] <hitsujiTMO> new0L gparted is all thats available to you
[17:49] <new0> hitsujiTMO, and is it reliable app?
[17:49] <new0> hitsujiTMO, let's say more reliable vs Partition Magic?
[17:49] <crunchbang> excuseme
[17:49] <hitsujiTMO> sIRwa2: you need a desktop environment to to capture that in the easiest for... although you could use udev to try and capture it, but not sure if its possible
[17:50] <hitsujiTMO> new0: well anything is more reliable than partition magic
[17:50] <new0> hitsujiTMO, ok. if u say so. tnx
[17:51] <Patero-ng> I have a problemo
[17:51] <sIRwa2> hitsujiTMO, oke, im using XBMCBuntu, but i cant use xbmc because i dont want it to ¨wake up¨
[17:51] <Patero-ng> pressing caps lock doesn't turn on light on keyboard under ubuntu server why
[17:52] <SchrodingersScat> Patero-ng: weird, but it still capslocks?
[17:53] <ripthejacker> Hi everyone, I ran glxinfo, and in  the output, it says
[17:53] <ripthejacker> OpenGL vendor string as VMware
[17:56] <hitsujiTMO> sIRwa2: udev may be a possibility but i havent used it for such a thing: have a look at and see if it fits: http://davidrosca.blogspot.ie/2012/08/linux-on-x220-getting-microphone-mute.html
[17:57] <Patero-ng> SchrodingersScat: right
[17:57] <Patero-ng> SchrodingersScat: yes it caps my letters on
[17:57] <sIRwa2> thanks hitsujiTMO
[18:01] <Diplomatico> Hello, I have this issue while trying to see youtube full screen:
[18:01] <Diplomatico> http://postimg.org/image/drlsvu9wp/
[18:01] <TalonZA> join #freenode
[18:01] <Diplomatico> Ignore the desktop to your right.The left pic is what i;m talking about.
[18:01] <vishnu> Can someone please suggest the best twitter client for ubuntu
[18:01] <vishnu> Twitter Client
[18:02] <hitsujiTMO> Diplomatico: what flash player are you using?
[18:02] <Diplomatico> Where can I check that?
[18:03] <hitsujiTMO> what browser is it?
[18:03] <Diplomatico> It happens to me both in Chromium and Firefox...
[18:04] <hitsujiTMO> Diplomatico: might be in about://plugins    maybe
[18:05] <Diplomatico> Ok.
[18:05] <vishnu> Somebody suggest a twitter client for Ubuntu
[18:06] <Diplomatico> Adobe Flash Player - Version: 11.2 r202
[18:06] <FreezingCold> How can I force grub to go to grub2?
[18:06] <FreezingCold> I somehow have 0.97 installed still
[18:06] <h4cxxc0r3> kl,
[18:07] <hitsujiTMO> Diplomatico: that hasn't been updated in a looong time, no longer supported either. try another plugin, or maybe install chrome. it has a built in flash player.
[18:07] <hitsujiTMO> FreezingCold: sudo apt-get install grub-pc
[18:08] <Diplomatico> I'm using Chromium, and Firefox, and the problem happens in both browsers...
[18:08] <hitsujiTMO> Diplomatico: chrome != chromium
[18:08] <Diplomatico> Yes, I know...
[18:08] <Diplomatico> What are you suggesting, to use other browser?
[18:08] <hitsujiTMO> Diplomatico: chrome comes with its own built in plugin that is superior to the others
[18:09] <SchrodingersScat> Diplomatico: I prefer to play everything through standard media players, like vlc, mplayer2, etc.
[18:09] <hitsujiTMO> Diplomatico: you dant have much choices when it comes to plugins for firefox + chromium, you could try gnash maybe
[18:10] <Diplomatico> Ok, so you suggest to change the plugins that play youtube...
[18:13] <ja1> Would anyone like to describe a few advantages of either staying with 12.04 LTS and waiting till the next LTS in April, or upgrading to 13.x now?
[18:14] <ja1> I do like new features, but I am more conserned with stability
[18:15] <SchrodingersScat> ja1: I think you hit a major one, if you need the stability then not pushing buttons might be good.
[18:15] <Calinou> ja1: get 13.10, it also has fixes
[18:16] <nec_> http://linuxcommand.net
[18:16] <hitsujiTMO> Diplomatico: not sure if this still works but http://www.webupd8.org/2012/09/how-to-make-chromium-use-flash-player.html might get you the pepper plugin for chromium
[18:17] <Diplomatico> Thank you, I'll give it a go...
[18:17] <ja1> ok, thanks! :)
[18:20] <kongthap> i accidently switch my notebook into "airplane mode", i cannot turn it back on, please help.
[18:21] <sIRwa2> hitsujiTMO, would  ACPID work? for triggering scripts from keyboard?
[18:22] <jatt> why does coreutils depend on libselinux1?
[18:22] <hitsujiTMO> sIRwa2: no, keyboard has nothing to do with acpi
[18:22] <Gallomimia> pardon me but is there any place where one can go to discuss the (abysmal failure of) running steam on ubuntu?
[18:23] <gordonjcp> Gallomimia: probably here, tbh
[18:23] <gordonjcp> Gallomimia: what happens when you try?
[18:23] <cer> hitsujiTMO: hi there .... I looked at the compilation of the kernel .... there are only 3 modules for cpu frequency control, and not the newest .... it is a problem with kernel compilaiton in ubuntu likely.
[18:23] <Gallomimia> brutal... it's high traffic enough in here
[18:25] <Gallomimia> the steam app and games have a state of working which is intermittent. the only workaround to which seems to be restarting the system... not the reason which i like to run linux.
[18:25] <pfred1> OK really dumb question but i am trying to help someone and for what they're doing they have t orun Ubuntu 10.04 so my question is are there any repositories they can use to install software from today?
[18:25] <Videooo> I know that this isn't the right place for asking but maybe there is a person who know the answer. How can I get the video from this lines?: rtmpe://vod.puremix.net/wsa/mp4:puremix/140/669d92211009834132043981ae071ee24c8e5211.mp4?e=1382820431&h=6dedf9400bde144f17a13ad86c6b7eca http://vod.puremix.net/wsa/_definst_/puremix/140/669d92211009834132043981ae071ee24c8e5211.mp4/playlist.m3u8?e=1382820431&h=6dedf9400bde144f17a13ad86c6b7eca
[18:26] <hitsujiTMO> cer: if thats the case then report it as a bug on launchpad
[18:26] <cer> hitsujiTMO: still, I do not understand how the other person you mentioned solved it without re compiling the kernel ....
[18:27] <cer> hitsujiTMO: ohho .... the configuration of the kernel between the freeze and what we have is different!
[18:28] <cer> hitsujiTMO: do you know how to extract the current configuration, rather than downloading the configuration at the time of the freeze?
[18:28] <hitsujiTMO> cer: i think his was working as normal, just cpu was set to lowest cpu freq, installing indicator-cpufreq allowed him to change it
[18:28] <pandaroot> i am at my college and connected to my home machine using ssh, how can i get gui interface of any application that is running at my home using ssh ?
[18:29] <elia> ciao a tutti
[18:29] <elia> :)
[18:29] <cer> hitsujiTMO: it is not really possible if you do not have the kernel modules .... the only kernel modules available are amd_freq_sensitivity.ko  p4-clockmod.ko  speedstep-lib.ko
[18:29] <baggar11> pandaroot: ssh in with -X
[18:29] <cer> hitsujiTMO: unless he was using speedstep-lib.ko. My point is to find the probelm and prepare a patch.
[18:30] <elia> !list
[18:30] <wN> !list
[18:30] <wN> hah
[18:30] <hitsujiTMO> cer: i don't i try to avoid playing around the kernel.
[18:31] <pandaroot> baggar11,  ssh  -X synaptic  user@host ?
[18:31] <baggar11> pandaroot: just pass the -X option and launch the graphical program from the command line once you've logged in
[18:31] <hitsujiTMO> what is it with italians coming in here and attempting to use the warez !list trigger?
[18:31] <sIRwa2> what keymap can i edit hitsujiTMO ( in the link you gave) is there a default keymap ( im googleling alot :)
[18:32] <cer> hitsujiTMO: but if you look at the configuration at the time of freeze (http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/configs/saucy/amd64-config.flavour.generic) you will see that  p4-clockmod.ko should not be there, but acpi-cpufreq should be there .... so someone changed something at the last minute.
[18:32] <hitsujiTMO> sIRwa2: its been about 5 years since i've done anything with udev so i'm after forgetting i'm afraid
[18:32] <sIRwa2> lol np thankls anyway
[18:33] <niranjan> Greetings, after updating service packs on 13.04 through update manager, not able to login at all
[18:33] <cer> hitsujiTMO: good at least I do understand what is going on now! Do you know who knows where the kernel configuration for "generic" is stored in the packages?
[18:33] <niranjan> I can login using ssh or from terminal, but GUI login does not work
[18:34] <pandaroot> baggar11, doing ssh -X xchat but it fails
[18:34] <goaw> Hey there, my updates aren't installing. I'm in 12.04 static :) Can somebody help. I'm missing repositories for some weird reason.
[18:34] <pandaroot> currently i am logged in
[18:34] <hyberger> Hello.
[18:34] <reisio> 'lo
[18:35] <F014> Aloha , I'm on the command line on therminal .. How do I change the commands ( i.e start > gimp ) ∴ that I dont have remember all the special command references ?
[18:35] <joelteon> is the pbuilder sandbox supposed to have access to universe/multiverse packages?
[18:35] <joelteon> i'm trying to build a package that depends on libffi6 but it doesn't exist in the sandbox
[18:35] <baggar11> pandaroot: is xchat installed on the remote machine? "ssh -X user@host"
[18:36] <pandaroot> baggar11, yes it is installed
[18:36] <ankur> ping
[18:37] <baggar11> pandaroot: what's the error message?
[18:37] <F014> NOTE :  tHAT WAS A QUESTION .....                                 BY THE WAY !
[18:38] <F014> soz 4 caps .
[18:38] <pandaroot> baggar11, it's working now :-)
[18:38] <pandaroot> if i want to kill particular application how can i kill it ?
[18:38] <joelteon> my package needs libffi.so.6 which is somewhere in the universe i think
[18:38] <joelteon> is there a way to figure out where a package originates from
[18:39] <baggar11> pandaroot: are you asking about the program you just launched via ssh?
[18:39] <baggar11> pandaroot: just close it...
[18:39] <reisio> joelteon: ask apt-file
[18:40] <pandaroot> baggar11, on the remote machine i have synaptic open due to that i can't install anything, so trying to kill synaptic
[18:40] <joelteon> so what do you do about dependencies that aren't available by default in the pbuilder sandbox
[18:40] <baggar11> pandaroot: use ps command to find PID and kill it
[18:40] <pandaroot> first tried to open synaptic but it said their is already an instance running trying it to bring to foreground
[18:41] <pandaroot> baggar11, task completed
[18:41] <baggar11> pandaroot: "ps aux | grep synaptic"
[18:42] <pandaroot> baggar11, :)
[18:42] <pandaroot> baggar11, thanks
[18:42] <baggar11> pandaroot: no problem, glad it's working
[18:42] <hitsujiTMO> !find libffi.so.6
[18:42] <pandaroot> baggar11, :D
[18:43] <joelteon> none of those exist in the pbuilder sandbox and i don't know why
[18:46] <nec_> uptime
[18:46] <reisio> nec_: 27
[18:47] <joelteon> how do i let the pbuilder sandbox know
[18:48] <reisio> joelteon: know what?
[18:48] <joelteon> that libffi6 exists
[18:50] <F014> Note :                                                                                My question was asked **over** 10 minutes ago .
[18:50] <hitsujiTMO> !patience | F014
[18:50] <term1> where do i get the list of colors and their codes like -1=default 0=....255
[18:50] <term1> where do i get the list of colors and their codes like -1=default 0=....255
[18:51] <MonkeyDust> F014  press the up key to repeat your question every 10-15 minutes, until someone knows the answer
[18:51] <hitsujiTMO> term1 colours for what?
[18:51] <Guest38085> Hello, I'm new to IRC
[18:51] <term1> i am using irssi so changing the theme, so any idea where can i get color number and their values?
[18:51] <F014> MonkeyDust : I will do      that .
[18:51] <reisio> Guest38085: hi, send this as a message: /nick newguy27
[18:52] <newguy27> nick rey
[18:53] <hitsujiTMO> term1: http://www.irssi.org/documentation/formats
[18:53] <_rey_> Reisio: Thanks
[18:53] <F014> Aloha , I'm on the command line on therminal .. How do I change the commands ( i.e start > gimp ) ∴ that I dont have remember all the special command references ?
[18:53] <term1> hitsujiTMO: ah man thanks
[18:54] <_rey_> Can I get a place where I can learn about IRC chat rules or stuff, so I can understand what's going on and how to communicate
[18:54] <joelteon> can I make my package require that a file called libffi.so.6 is in the load path somewhere, rather than depending on a specific package?
[18:55] <reisio> _rey_: /topic
[18:55] <reisio> _rey_: but usually you get a warning if you do someting against any rules
[18:56] <_rey_> reisio: thanks boss :)
[18:56] <odium> how can I use lighttpd with ssl if I get this error SSL: ssl requested but openssl support is not compiled in
[18:56] <k1l> !guidelines | _rey_ read this one for a beginning
[18:57] <k1l> _rey_: and we have another chatroom for chating: #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:57] <hitsujiTMO> joelteon: you can prob symlink it to a PATH dir in your sandbox
[18:57] <hitsujiTMO> joelteon: altho, how that will effect the sandbox i do not know
[18:57] <_rey_> K1l: Thanks
[18:57] <_rey_> ubottu: thanks
[18:58] <xanux> hello
[18:58] <hellangel> hello there =)
[18:58] <xanux> :D
[18:59] <xanux> whats the new 13.10 update like
[18:59] <MonkeyDust> xanux  look for any review
[18:59] <joelteon> okay, sure, i'll try that.
[19:00] <troulouliou_dev> anybody having the battery bug on 13.10 managed to resolve it yet ?
[19:00] <hellangel> i am pretty new to unbuntu and was wondering: i installed pidgin, but when i get a new message and click on the envelope and on the message, it doesnt get sent to the front (ubuntu 13.10 64bit)
[19:00] <hitsujiTMO> troulouliou_dev: battery bug?
[19:01] <xanux> im having a battery bug with linux all the time anyway
[19:01] <troulouliou_dev> hitsujiTMO, battery always reported at 0% charged
[19:01] <Bauer1> Guys, when I report a problem/crash, or right click on  /var/crash/some.file and report it, the apport is not opening the bug report for me to track - is that normal? how do I fix this behaviour?
[19:01] <xanux> mine dosent charge at all
[19:02] <hitsujiTMO> troulouliou_dev: interesting, haven't heard of that one yet
[19:02] <reisio> hellangel: what happens instead?
[19:02] <troulouliou_dev> hitsujiTMO, ha have seen spme bug reports on launchpad
[19:02] <hellangel> reisio, pretty much nothing, the message window stays in the background
[19:02] <hellangel> tho, the message disappears in the envelope-menu, so that part seems to work at least heh
[19:03] <reisio> hellangel: screenshot?
[19:03] <hellangel> i could actually test if i have focus, even tho it is not in the foreground
[19:03] <k1l> troulouliou_dev: best is to make a bug report and give details in there, so the devs can take a look at
[19:03] <reisio> hellangel: not sure what you're describing typically does what you want
[19:03] <reisio> hellangel: but altering pidgin prefs will probably help you get what you want
[19:03] <reisio> deja vu...
[19:04] <xanux> how can I help with developing ubuntu
[19:04] <troulouliou_dev> k1l, yes there already is one ; i m just tottally busy wonder if by luck could get a 2 sec fix while ddrinking my coffee :)
[19:04] <hellangel> reisio: screenshot? :P well, i click on the envelope and on the message, and what i expect is the pidgin-chat-window to come to the foreground, which it doesnt :P not sure what to screenshot about this hehe
[19:04] <hellangel> reisio: and this doesnt seem to have anythin to do with pidgin itself, or am i wrong?
[19:04] <hitsujiTMO> xanux: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment
[19:04] <reisio> hellangel: the "envelope"
[19:05] <hellangel> reisio, oh
[19:05] <Patero-ng> is there anyway to turn off just one of my monitors without having to use xrand? is too heavy and I'm on ubuntu server and vbetool dmps off turns off all my displays not just the laptop's lcd
[19:05] <F014> Aloha , I'm on the command line on therminal .. How do I change the commands ( i.e start > gimp ) ∴ that I dont have remember all the special command references ?
[19:05] <reisio> hellangel: it sounds like you're describing the generic DE notification system
[19:05] <xanux> thxs
[19:05] <reisio> hellangel: which IME does not execute actions upon clicks
[19:05] <reisio> although presumably it could
[19:05] <reisio> F014: what do you want to change?
[19:05] <k1l> F014: what do you want? can you rephrase or give an example?
[19:06] <hitsujiTMO> Patero-ng: not that i know of, unless you want to turn it off permanently in xorg.conf
[19:06] <reisio> Patero-ng: might check xset
[19:06] <F014> So .. ' the command line ..
[19:06] <F014> How do I ..
[19:06] <reisio> F014: finish a sentence?
[19:07] <F014> change a 'command' into a unique command of my own ?
[19:07] <reisio> F014: ah
[19:07] <reisio> F014: run 'help alias'
[19:07] <k1l> !alias | F014
[19:07] <F014> opening help alias ...
[19:07] <pandaroot> form where i can get the .deb package of mysql-server for raring ?
[19:07] <pandaroot> i tried online but i was getting the source file instead of the package.
[19:07] <reisio> F014: you can make them long term by setting them in ~/.bashrc, for example
[19:07] <term3> F014: or what u can do is create a bash script and run that comand from there (paste that bash script in /etc
[19:08] <hitsujiTMO> pandaroot: apt-get get install -d mysql-server
[19:08] <reisio> F014: echo 'alias foo="bar"' >> ~/.bashrc && source ~/.bashrc
[19:08] <hellangel> the blue one ;)
[19:08] <hitsujiTMO> pandaroot: that will pull it to your apt cache
[19:08] <F014> Ok , that's done it .
[19:08] <F014> thanx guys    .
[19:08] <F014> \o/ BIG HUG
[19:09] <reisio> hellangel: I'd ask #pidgin if they know how to improve that
[19:09] <MonkeyDust> F014  scroll down to 'syntax' http://www.howtogeek.com/73768/how-to-use-aliases-to-customize-ubuntu-commands/
[19:09] <hellangel> reisio, so clicking on the message within the envelope-menu (whatever it's called) should just discard the notification in your opinion?
[19:09] <hellangel> reisio, alright, i will try my luck there, thanks a lot for the kind help =)
[19:10] <F014> !bot hug
[19:10] <reisio> F014: a little fancier than you might need for some time is a 'function' :) FFR
[19:10] <reisio> hellangel: that is the ordinary behavior, yes, if it's what I think it is
[19:10] <F014> I see I see    .
[19:10] <reisio> hellangel: but obviously it could do more
[19:10] <xanux> how could i get Itunes on Ubuntu
[19:10] <F014> !itunes
[19:11] <reisio> xanux: what do you use it for?
[19:11] <wN> xanux: you can use wine, but it doesnt work with ipod/iphone, but you can play/buy music through it. you can find more info on winehq.org
[19:11] <xanux> all my music is on itunes
[19:11] <xanux> i hate itunes so much
[19:11] <reisio> xanux: :)
[19:11] <hellangel> reisio, i actually managed to screenshot it while fading :p
[19:11] <hitsujiTMO> pandaroot: you can also get it from here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/database/mysql-server
[19:11] <reisio> xanux: then you probably don't need it
[19:11] <wN> xanux: my personal preference is using virtualbox and running a windows xp virt. then i just itunes through that. you can use usb passthrough to manage your devices.
[19:12] <reisio> hellangel: heh
[19:12] <hellangel> reisio, http://i.imgur.com/cxEPvR3.png
[19:12] <pandaroot> hitsujiTMO, the prob is the i am using local ubuntu repository which doesn't has mysql-server for the moment.
[19:12] <xanux> i lost all my music on my phone so i have to user itunes
[19:12] <reisio> hellangel: what's this?
[19:12] <wN> xanux: although i've recently swithced to Google Music. It works great since all the music is in the cloud and i dont have to sync my android device
[19:12] <reisio> "the cloud"
[19:12] <hellangel> reisio, the menu that pops up when i press the blue envelope, that i thought was a built in feature in this desktop
[19:12] <wN> reisio: get of my coolaid
[19:12] <wN> off*
[19:12] <wN> hehe
[19:12] <reisio> 'cause 'on the internet' is too hard to type, and not fluffy enough
[19:12] <reisio> wN: :p
[19:13] <wN> reisio: the world wide web?
[19:13] <wN> all my music is in the world wide webg.
[19:13] <reisio> hellangel: ah, dunno about that one
[19:13] <F014> !players
[19:13] <hitsujiTMO> pandaroot: you can get the packages here so: http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/database/mysql-server   but you will probably have to grab the dependencies manually too. can you not change the repos?
[19:13] <reisio> xanux: you can just transfer your audio from iTunes to someplace a native player can use it
[19:13] <F014> !studio ubuntu
[19:13] <reisio> xanux: basically the only "good" reason to keep using iTunes, on any OS, is if you buy music through it
[19:14] <hellangel> reisio, kk, though thanks a lot :)
[19:14] <F014> !ubuntu studio
[19:14] <xanux> i dont have my music anywhere its all on the cloud
[19:14] <pandaroot> hitsujiTMO, changing the repos , seaching for the sources list for raring
[19:14] <reisio> right, the cloud...
[19:14] <wN> xanux: then you'll need to install itunes, but you wont be able to sync it to your device in linux.
[19:15] <xanux> ok
[19:15] <wN> xanux: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=27734
[19:15] <F014> xanux: Rockbox plus Amarok !
[19:15] <pandaroot> hitsujiTMO, working
[19:15] <reisio> xanux: unless you use a VM, like somebody mentioned
[19:15] <wN> and just as a heads up, it's probably going to be a pain in the ass to get working :P you may want to consider the virtualbox option to get your music from the icloud (im not sure if there is any other way other than itunes)
[19:15] <reisio> xanux: but if you aren't buying things through it, best to move your audio elsewhere
[19:16] <xanux> i just have a guts full of apple now
[19:16] <reisio> ?
[19:16] <k1l> !language
[19:17] <wN> ^ wat
[19:17] <F014> xanux: ☺
[19:17] <bazhang> xanux get back on topic please
[19:17] <k1l> and please stick to techincal ubuntu support in here.
[19:17] <wN> ^ wat
[19:17] <xanux> ok
[19:17] <bazhang> wN, stop that
[19:17] <wN> why? getting apple itunes working in ubuntu is NOT technical ubuntu support??
[19:17] <reisio> well that was only five lines of spam as a reaction to ... maybe one
[19:18] <wN> it's a real shame that people cant be helped without being hasseled by a bot.
[19:18] <F014> !Package: unity-lens-shopping
[19:19] <reisio> F014: ?
[19:19] <bazhang> F014, /msg ubottu
[19:19] <F014> ok , a is sorry
[19:21]  * Oze sexy
[19:21] <F014> !suggestion : ubottu needs to begin with the letter A in it's name .. 'cos I have trouble finding the little guy !
[19:21] <bazhang> F014, /msg ubottu
[19:22] <F014> bazhang: I have , he won't change his name (?)
[19:22] <bazhang> F014, that means dont do it in the channel
[19:22] <Vivekananda> Hey everyone. Although I kinda know the answers but just making sure. for a dual boot win xp and ubuntu 12.04 , xp goes infirst right ?  Also how do I create ubuntu bootable CD with the iso.
[19:23] <reisio> Vivekananda: it's a little simpler if you do XP first, yes
[19:23] <Bauer1> Guys, when I report a problem/crash, or right click on  /var/crash/some.file and report it, the apport is not opening the bug report for me to track - is that normal? how do I fix this behaviour?
[19:23] <k1l> !dualboot | Vivekananda
[19:23] <reisio> Vivekananda: create cd from... Ubuntu?
[19:23]  * Oze sexsy
[19:23] <bazhang> Vivekananda, the more recent will rquire either a dvd or a usb stick. unetbootin is one way
[19:24] <hitsujiTMO> Vivekananda: yes, its an easier setup if you install xp first. you can create convert an iso to usb with tools such as unetbootin or linuxliveusb
[19:24] <bazhang> Oze, did you have a support question? otherwise, please take that elsewhere
[19:25] <Oze> bazhang you?
[19:25] <bazhang> Oze, this is ubuntu support; chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:25] <Vivekananda> bazhang: got uubntu right now but is a little messed up. I dont want to use the in built boot usb generator so going to download a fresh iso and use it to create a usb
[19:25] <Oze> ok
[19:26] <Oze> bazhang do u like sex?
[19:26] <bazhang> Vivekananda, the usb-creator is the builtin one iirc, you can also install unetbootin
[19:26] <Vivekananda> also if any of you use win 7 how much of a resource hog is it ?
[19:26] <reisio> Vivekananda: does it matter?
[19:26] <bazhang> Vivekananda, try ##windows for that
[19:26] <Vivekananda> bazhang: yep okay
[19:27] <reisio> Vivekananda: oh you mean vs xp?
[19:27] <Vivekananda> so installing unetbootin
[19:27] <Vivekananda> reisio: of course
[19:27] <reisio> it's not so bad, but it takes a lot more disk space
[19:27] <bazhang> reisio, feel free to support that in ##windows
[19:27] <Vivekananda> but just to make sure, unetbootin will it create a bootable usb for me ?
[19:28] <reisio> Vivekananda: yup
[19:28] <bazhang> Vivekananda, correct, the linux pendrive site has other methods as well
[19:28] <Vivekananda> okay , looking at the links ubottu gave me above now !
[19:28] <Vivekananda> oww that is not for unetbootin
[19:29] <bazhang> !usb
[19:29] <bazhang> Vivekananda, ^
[19:29] <xanux> how can you launch a shell program from a shell program ?
[19:29] <privateanalyst> Hello I need help. I don't know how to connect to the internet. How do I get ubuntu to scan for networks so that I can pick one?
[19:29] <reisio> xanux: /path/to/program
[19:29] <xanux> thx :D
[19:29] <reisio> xanux: or just 'program' if it's going to be in the path
[19:29] <term1> term3: h
[19:30] <Vivekananda> got it
[19:30] <reisio> xanux: or ./path/to/program relatively
[19:30] <term3> term1: 2
[19:30] <reisio> ...
[19:30] <k1l> privateanalyst: there is the network manager in the top panel. so you can select the wifis there
[19:30] <reisio> privateanalyst: wireless?
[19:30] <Vivekananda> reisio: I have an old system , 2.1 ghz max speed and 4 gig ram that is why I asked if I should go with xp or 7
[19:30] <Vivekananda> but I gues will go with xp
[19:30] <reisio> Vivekananda: that isn't really old
[19:30] <privateanalyst> yes wifi
[19:30] <reisio> Vivekananda: and will handle any OS
[19:31] <bazhang> Vivekananda, reisio that is not for here...
[19:31] <Vivekananda> bazhang: sorry yep
[19:31] <reisio> bazhang: what isn't?
[19:31] <Vivekananda> off to windows
[19:31] <reisio> privateanalyst: do you know your device model?
[19:31] <bazhang> reisio, you are well aware thats for ##windows
[19:31] <reisio> bazhang: I don't even know what you're talking about
[19:31] <privateanalyst> I am using a laptop compaq with broadcom wireless
[19:31] <bazhang> privateanalyst, iwlist scan , if you mean by the command line
[19:32] <bazhang> reisio, keeping it on topic here.
[19:32] <privateanalyst> is there a simple way
[19:32] <bazhang> privateanalyst, the network manager applet is the easier way, yes
[19:32] <hitsujiTMO> Vivekananda: thats good enough for win 7, or 8 and ubuntu
[19:32] <privateanalyst> how do i use the network manager applet?
[19:33] <Patero-ng> hitsujiTMO: can I disabled my monitor using xorg even if I'm on ubuntu server?
[19:33] <Patero-ng> reisio: the pages I found for xset alledgy turn off all monitors
[19:33] <reisio> hitsujiTMO: that's some lag
[19:33] <reisio> Patero-ng: you can disable your monitor, yup
[19:33] <reisio> Patero-ng: -display ?
[19:34] <privateanalyst> bazhang, can i scan for networks using the network manager applet?
[19:34] <reisio> privateanalyst: yup, if it's working
[19:34] <Patero-ng> reisio: i only want to turn off laptop display not crt attached display
[19:35] <reisio> Patero-ng: what graphics driver are you using?
[19:35] <privateanalyst> reisio, it only gives me the option to add a network, how do i get it do give me a list?
[19:35] <hitsujiTMO> Patero-ng: soory, forgot you were on cli only. does xrandr not work for you?
[19:36] <reisio> privateanalyst: what's the adapter model? lspci | grep -i net
[19:36] <reisio> Patero-ng: oh you aren't using X at all?
[19:36] <Gallomimia> xanux: itunes has no restrictions on taking the music out of itunes and playing it any player of your choice. mine is mplayer
[19:36] <privateanalyst> its broadcom 802.11 b/g
[19:37] <reisio> privateanalyst: 'broadcom' is a little too inspecific
[19:37] <reisio> Gallomimia: hear hear
[19:38] <Gallomimia> xanux reisio tho i do agree wholeheartedly with the sentiments of "i hate itunes"
[19:38] <Vivekananda> bazhang: coming back to topic. I have 64 bit capable machine. I am wondering whether to install 32 bit one right now
[19:38] <xanux> Itunes is evil lol
[19:38] <Vivekananda> 64 seems to have troubles sometimes esp when installing libraries eg recently I had to install oursql library for python
[19:38] <bazhang> Vivekananda, no reason at all to use 32bit if your machine supports 64bit
[19:38] <reisio> Vivekananda: on Ubuntu?
[19:39] <Patero-ng> reisio: no x
[19:39] <privateanalyst> Broadcom 802.11b/g WLAN#3
[19:39] <Vivekananda> reisio: yep
[19:39] <term1> xanux: super evil, the music u pay for in itunes is so that you aren't sued, it's to pay for the license. u dont own that file lol
[19:39] <SchrodingersScat> privateanalyst: another broadcom victim :(
[19:39] <Patero-ng> hitsujiTMO: I can install xrand but is like 20mbs and for something like this should wait 200k
[19:39] <reisio> Patero-ng: so you're using the laptop keyboard, and the external monitor?
[19:39] <xanux> sounds about right lol
[19:39] <privateanalyst> how can I get the applet to give me a list of networks in range from which i can select?
[19:39] <Patero-ng> reisio: external keyboard and monitor
[19:39] <reisio> privateanalyst: need to know about your device
[19:39] <term1> privateanalyst: wifi?
[19:40] <reisio> Patero-ng: can't you just close the laptop, then?
[19:40] <hitsujiTMO> privateanalyst: can you open the terminal and type: lspci -k > ~/lspci.txt
[19:40] <ro9> using dual monitor in ubuntu is it plug and play?
[19:40] <reisio> ro9: usually
[19:40] <Patero-ng> reisio: will that turn off just that display or both
[19:40] <Vivekananda> reisio: I meant that I have the possibility of installing bot 32 or 64 bit ubuntu. I have not had any experience with ubuntu 64 bit but I assumed that available programs and compatibility might be an issue vis-a-vis installing software or custom libraries for languages and tihngs like eclipse etc.
[19:40] <Patero-ng> reisio: I think it will do both
[19:40] <privateanalyst> I am using windows since i dunno how to connect in ubuntu...
[19:41] <reisio> Patero-ng: easy way to find out
[19:41] <term3> term1: check
[19:41] <reisio> privateanalyst: okay, check in Windows' device manager, then
[19:41] <Vivekananda> Earlier with XP and 7 I had issues installing libraries 32 vs 64 and the oursql I mentioned was for xp
[19:41] <Vivekananda> and 7
[19:41] <hitsujiTMO> privateanalyst: and can you then copy that lspci.txt file onto a usb, and copy it to the file you are using that has internet access, and upload it to paste.ubuntu.com and give us the link so we can determine if you have the right kernel module installed for your wireless
[19:41] <Patero-ng> reisio: I think you're right it turns off just that lid thanks!
[19:41] <privateanalyst> yes it says Broadcom 802.11b/g WLAN#3
[19:41] <reisio> Vivekananda: there's no particular reason 64-bit should be any more involved
[19:41] <reisio> Patero-ng: gj :)
[19:42] <Vivekananda> reisio: so do you mean that the binaries dont differ for software ?
[19:42] <term3> term1: check
[19:42] <Vivekananda> and support also does not differ ? by support I mean avaialble software in the software centre and elsewhere ?
[19:42] <reisio> Vivekananda: I mean 64-bit isn't a problem
[19:42] <privateanalyst> reisio: what do i do now?
[19:42] <Vivekananda> also compatibility issues ?
[19:42] <reisio> privateanalyst: find out your wireless adapter's model
[19:43] <pandaroot> i have a very basic tv tuner card, can i record the tv shows that are displayed through it ?
[19:43] <reisio> Vivekananda: nothing to speak of
[19:43] <hellangel> reisio, it seems to be pidgin only, because with xchat it seems to work just fine :)
[19:43] <k1l> term1: term3  could you please use #test for testing and not this channel?
[19:43] <Vivekananda> so do you mean that even when I install 64 bit I can still download and install sofware without worrying it is meant for 64 or 32 ?  I mean the deb file ?
[19:44] <Vivekananda> and also add ppas and other things like that without worries ?
[19:45] <reisio> hellangel: could just be a little bug
[19:46] <hellangel> reisio, maybe yeah, though i fail to come up with the right search phrases to confirm that ;)
[19:47] <SchrodingersScat> !info ia32-libs
[19:47] <SchrodingersScat> Vivekananda: ^ that can solve some lib issues
[19:48] <Vivekananda> I read this just now http://www.howtogeek.com/165144/htg-explains-should-you-use-the-32-bit-or-64-bit-edition-of-ubuntu-linux/
[19:48] <Vivekananda> Schrodinger`Cat: I am trying ot install the lts 12.04
[19:49] <Vivekananda> I wont go to the newer one
[19:49] <Schrodinger`Cat> fail tab ^^
[19:49] <Schrodinger`Cat> SchrodingersScat, GRR
[19:51] <SchrodingersScat> Vivekananda: I'm not sure how that changes much
[19:52] <hellangel> reisio, oh, i actually found the reason.. the notification does actually focus the window, but the main window and not the chat-window ;) since the user list was always in the foreground, i didnt notice that
[19:53] <pandaroot> i have a very basic tv tuner card, can i record the tv shows that are displayed through it ?
[19:54] <reisio> hellangel: weird
[19:54] <baggar11> pandaroot: yes
[19:54] <reisio> hellangel: might check pidgin prefs for that
[19:54] <pandaroot> baggar11, how can i do that ? using mythbuntu ?
[19:55] <ulrichard_> I just upgraded my netbook to saucy, and now every time I try to use sudo, that terminal just freezes. What can I do?
[19:55] <SchrodingersScat> !mythbuntu | pandaroot
[19:56] <hitsujiTMO> pandaroot: you dont need to install mythbuntu per se, you can just install mythtv if you want that feature on an ordinary system, but there should be other apps out there that have the same capability (like i woul presume xbmc has such a feature too)
[19:56] <baggar11> pandaroot: I think vlc might be able to let you do that if you just want to test or manually trigger recordings, otherwise, yes mythtv and tvheadend
[19:56] <hitsujiTMO> ulrichard_: are you getting an error after the freeze?
[19:57] <hitsujiTMO> ulrichard_: specifically about not being able to resolve your hostname?
[19:57] <hellangel> reisio, i have checked the preferences, but haven't been able to find anything, but i can live with having the buddy list closed :)
[19:57] <trism> hellangel: yeah it's a bug, it used to work but in recent unity versions I haven't been able to figure out how to make it do anything more than jiggle
[19:58] <hellangel> trism, well, it is not solution but a temporary measure i can work with :)
[19:58] <trism> hellangel: the code didn't change, unity just decided to stop focusing it
[19:59] <hellangel> also, pidgin doesnt open links in the default browser, but always in firefox *glares at pidgin*
[19:59] <odium> how can i be sure a program (ie, avconv, ffmpeg) is threading properly to utilize my the full potential of my processor?
[19:59] <pandaroot> SchrodingersScat, hitsujiTMO baggar11  thanks guys
[20:00] <Adam_Johns> Is it appropriate to ask about connecting to my ubuntu server vm here and some snags that my OCD won't let go?
[20:00] <baggar11> Adam_Johns: there is an ubuntu-server channel, but I don't care if you ask in here...
[20:01] <hellangel> odium, you can specify how many threads to be used with avconv/ffmpeg
[20:02] <hitsujiTMO> hellangel: trism , actually i've notice a similar issue with nautilus, such as using "show in folder" in chrome opens a nautilus window, but does not bring it to the front
[20:02] <odium> hellangel: oh, so I can say -threads 8 ?
[20:02] <hellangel> hitsujiTMO, i have the same issue yeah.. i had the same problem with gnome3 aswell, a config entry fixed that though, maybe there is a similar option for the unity desktop
[20:03] <hellangel> odium, indeed
[20:03] <Adam_Johns> baggar11, Thanks. I tried to connect to my server using https and it works fine but I had to allow firefox a certificate exception to do this. I know next to nothing about the certs or encryption but would like to learn how to solve this please.
[20:03] <MonkeyDust> odium  try winFF, a fine GUI for ffmpeg, which uses a lot of options, to make full use of your hardware
[20:03] <trism> hellangel: oh I noticed that one 13.10 too, it was using sensible-browser here and trying to open chromium-browser which I don't even have installed, I just switched in to chrome in Preferences/Browser and it's working again
[20:04] <baggar11> Adam_Johns: solve installing a real cert?
[20:04] <odium> can someone recommend a tutorial on how to get source debs to install properly in ubuntu 13.10?
[20:04] <Adam_Johns> baggar11, Yeah, my ocd won't let me get away with using an exception. I feel there is probably a more professional method I should learn
[20:05] <baggar11> Adam_Johns: buy the ssl cert for your server and look into adding the configs for apache/nginx...
[20:05] <bekks> odium: apt-get source packagename
[20:06] <haurech> hola
[20:06] <hitsujiTMO> odium is this what you're looking for? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpdatingADeb
[20:07] <Adam_Johns> baggar11, buy? Sorry. This is just for a home intranet lab enviroment. I would just like all the machines on my subnet to be able to enter my server ip in a browser and visit the pages on the server
[20:07] <hitsujiTMO> adam_john: you can get class1 certs for free from startssl.com they work perfectly with 99% of browsers
[20:07] <Adam_Johns> hitsujiTMO, Thank you
[20:07] <term3> term1: ks
[20:08] <odium> hitsujiTMO, thanks, that looks right.
[20:08] <baggar11> Adam_Johns: ssl certs need a legit signing authority
[20:09] <term1> h
[20:10] <term3> term1: did u finally get thru that
[20:10] <hitsujiTMO> term1, term3, are you using this channel for a bot test? if so move to another channel
[20:11] <term3> hitsujiTMO: no man, not bot testing lol
[20:11] <gordonjcp> it's jono
[20:11] <k1l> term3: i already asked you to stop that
[20:11] <term3> hitsujiTMO: i didnt see, i am adding a theme, need constant updates :\
[20:12] <term3> im sorry for causing trouble
[20:13] <hitsujiTMO> term3 you can just make your own channel to test /join ##testing123
[20:13] <jono> hey gordonjcp
[20:13] <term3> hitsujiTMO: oh shit, im so stupid. :\ my bad, thanks
[20:13] <term3> term1: w
[20:14] <Adam_Johns> Sorry but is there no way to generate my own keys for a local network environment?
[20:14] <universal> I minimized terminal to sidebar and was doing some other work, suddenly everything froze with a msg after few seonds - something went wrong with compiz. Now everything is working except terminal is not showing  up on desktop once its minimizsed to sidebar, at the same time its shown with an arrow in sidebar. I already tried restarting but no use.
[20:14] <bekks> Adam_Johns: Which "keys for a local network"?
[20:14] <tekjnke> greetings. i'm running xbuntu 13.10 on an acer aspire one and the audio is skipping.
[20:15] <hitsujiTMO> Adam_Johns: you can, create your own ca, or use self signed keys
[20:15] <Adam_Johns> bekks, Sorry, I mean ssl certificate.
[20:15] <Alphratz> Hello
[20:15] <zeronoie> ciao!!!!
[20:15] <Nettunix_x> Hello
[20:15] <ulrichard_> hitsujiTMO: no, even after half an hour, the terminal doesn't return from the call to sudo.
[20:16] <txomon> how may I get ia32-libs' packages installed in a 64-bit system without having to install aptitude?
[20:17] <hitsujiTMO> ulrichard_: not the common issue i'm thinking of then. veryify your sudoers file is correctly structured. the slighest syntax mistake can break sudo
[20:17] <k1l> txomon: you can use "apt-get install" for isntalling packages
[20:19] <ulrichard_> I didn't edit the sudoers file at least since natty on that machine.
[20:19] <txomon> k1l, it does give dependency errors
[20:19] <universal> I minimized terminal to sidebar and was doing some other work, suddenly everything froze with a msg after few seonds - something went wrong with compiz. Now everything is working except terminal is not showing  up on desktop once its minimizsed to sidebar, at the same time its shown with an arrow in sidebar. I already tried restarting but no use.
[20:19] <ulrichard_> hitsujiTMO: And without sudo, I can't run visudo.
[20:21] <hitsujiTMO> ulrichard_: you can view the sudoers file directly in /etc/sudoers and the files in /etc/sudoers.d/    if there's errors you can correct them in recovery mode
[20:21] <apb> Epson XP-300 won't print.  Downloaded the driver, installed the package, restarted cupsd... restarted LibreOffice... nada.  Printer doesn't show up in LO.  lsusb shows the printer... so now I'm stuck.  Anyone?
[20:21] <k1l> txomon: please put that command with output into a pastbin, so we have a look
[20:22] <Mug> hi guys!
[20:22] <hellangel> trism, well all other programs seem to use the right default browser.. well well.. lets just wait or updates hehe
[20:22] <txomon> k1l, sure: https://travis-ci.org/txomon/master-asd/builds/13044750
[20:23] <ulrichard_> hitsujiTMO: I have strange permissions on those files :  440. No idea how that happened.
[20:23] <hellangel> trism, and by "all other programs" i mean the terminal and xchat :)
[20:23] <Mug> I'm having some problems with my keyboard. The keys lag sometimes... I can't seem to find anyone with the same sort of problem on the net
[20:23] <hitsujiTMO> ulrichard_: soory your right, that seems to be the default permissions. you will have to look at them in recover mode so
[20:24] <hitsujiTMO> mug, what version of ubuntu
[20:24] <sss__> Hello all. Could I bother someone with some questions concerning my Nvidia problem?
[20:25] <hitsujiTMO> mug, what cpu do you have, E8400 ?
[20:25] <Mug> 13.04... the problem has been there since 12.* thoughh
[20:25] <hitsujiTMO> sss__: just ask the question, if someone knows the answer they'll reply
[20:25] <sss__> I have a laptop Asus X550V, i5-3230, 4gbRam and Nvidia 740M. I have installed Ubuntu 13.10 along Win8, which was preinstalled.
[20:25] <sss__> Ubuntu is on and working without problems.
[20:26] <hitsujiTMO> mug, what cpu do you have, E8400 ?
[20:26] <sss__> The only problem is that it doesn't recognize my Nvidia 740M, but is using the Intel 4000HD.
[20:26] <sss__> I followed this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee#Installation  to install bumbleebe
[20:26] <sss__> but i still get this error: "Cannot access secondary GPU" error
[20:26] <Mug> hitsujiTMO, I have an intel dual-core
[20:26] <hitsujiTMO> !bumblebee | sss__
[20:26] <MonkeyDust> sss__  keep it in one line please, it's easier to read and repeat
[20:26] <trism> hellangel: yeah, I'm not sure what the issue is, since sensible-browser works in the terminal, it just stopped working from pidgin when I upgraded to 13.10
[20:26] <hitsujiTMO> mug: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[20:26] <sss__> I have installed Bumblebee
[20:27] <sss__> but I get  but i still get this error: "Cannot access secondary GPU" error
[20:27] <hitsujiTMO> sss__: ahh sorry
[20:28] <Mug> hitsujiTMO, I don't have an NVIDIA gpu
[20:28] <k1l> txomon: see the first answer: http://askubuntu.com/questions/107230/what-happened-to-the-ia32-libs-package
[20:28] <sss__> there is explanation:  you need to edit the /etc/bumblebee/xorg.conf.nvidia (or /etc/bumblebee/xorg.conf.nouveau if using the noveau driver) and specify the correct BusID by following the instructions therein.
[20:28] <Ben64> sss__: pastebin "lspci"
[20:28] <hitsujiTMO> mug: what is the output of: hitsuji@kaylee:~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep model
[20:28] <Mug> hitsujiTMO: model		: 23 model name	: Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU       T4500  @ 2.30GHz model		: 23 model name	: Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU       T4500  @ 2.30GHz
[20:29] <sss__> http://pastebin.com/Lf6suGy6
[20:29] <Patero-ng> on w3m what is the difference between go to url and go to relative url?
[20:29] <hellangel> trism, yeah time for another update! :)
[20:29] <Ben64> sss__: line 15 has the bus id
[20:30] <hitsujiTMO> mug is the entire interface freezing or just keyboard entry?
[20:30] <sss__> ok, I entered it into that config file(I hope I did it right), but still nothing happens other than error.
[20:31] <Ben64> sss__: you'd probably need to restart x at the very least, maybe the whole system
[20:32] <Mug> hitsujiTMO, just keyboard entry... and it's only on occasion. It's like I have to type in rhythm or something. Repetitive keypresses like backspace or double letters lag the most noticeably
[20:32] <hitsujiTMO> mug: have you seen the same issue on other operating systems on the same machine?
[20:32] <sss__> Is this the correct line:  BusID       "01:00.0"  or BusID "PCI:01:00.0"?
[20:33] <Mug> hitsujiTMO: nope, windows is fine
[20:33] <Ben64> sss__: i'm not sure, i don't use bumblebee
[20:33] <sss__> ok, thank. gonna reboot, see if something happens
[20:34] <hitsujiTMO> mug: maybe kernel or xserver bug. have you seen the same issue in the live distro?
[20:35] <Mug> hitsujiTMO, I'll have to check later. I don't have the dvd near me.
[20:36] <hitsujiTMO> mug: unfortunately this kind of issue is very difficult to identify: as you can see froma similar bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/+bug/877010
[20:38] <hitsujiTMO> mug: best thing to do is report a bug and see what happens i can't see it being a config issue unless you manage to not see the issue on a live distro
[20:39] <Mug> hitsujiTMO... that's a little depressing. I'll try and do a clean install after I back up my files... I don't want to give up on linux
[20:39] <Ben64> try a different keyboard?
[20:39] <Vivekananda> hey everyone also for ubuntu 32 bit 12.04 install should I choose the ext3 ? the thing is I wanted to be able to read it from the Windows dual boot so I use an app too read and it just reads ext3 and fat but not ext 4
[20:39] <sss_> Hello, rebooted, but I still get [  150.251346] [ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU - error: Could not load GPU driver  [  150.251378] [ERROR]Aborting because fallback start is disabled.  after running optirun
[20:40] <Mug> ben64.. I will. But this is a laptop, so that's not really a sustainable solution
[20:40] <Ben64> Mug: ohh
[20:44] <ulrichard_> hitsujiTMO: the sudoers file looks untouched. And visudo would have cmoplained if it was not ok. But in recovery mode the root partition was mounted readonly. So I had to remount and fsck it. Now I'm back logged in regularly, but the problem persists.
[20:44] <wrl_> Anyone know where the per user dashboard configuration file is called and locates (for 13.10)?
[20:44] <reisio> wrl_: should be able to find it easily enough by grepping for a string
[20:44] <jubale> Is the app for building custom distro still available?
[20:44] <reisio> jubale: mmhmmm
[20:45] <wrl_> reisio:  like "dashboard"?
[20:45] <reisio> wrl_: sure
[20:45] <reisio> wrl_: find ~/.??* -iname '*dashboard*'
[20:45] <reisio> wrl_: grep -ilr dashboard ~/
[20:45] <paulgreen35> Hi. I'm not sure if I'm the right place, but, is there any Administrators or Moderators from the Ubuntu Forums online?
[20:45] <reisio> paulgreen35: #ubuntuforums
[20:45] <wrl_> reisio: I'll give that a try, thanks!
[20:46] <wilee-nilee> paulgreen35, #ubuntu-ops
[20:46] <paulgreen35> Thanks
[20:47] <wilee-nilee> paulgreen35, actually #ubuntuforums would be more likely
[20:47] <txomon> k1l, yeah I know that, but I want to get ia32-libs' packages installed, not to find manually dependencies... I am using altera's modelsim, which doesn't give much info about it's dependencies...
[20:48] <hitsujiTMO> ulrichard_: maybe try reconfig the package: dpkg-reconfigure sudo    if you cant run this from recovery mode, then maybe boot to live distro and chroot to you install
[20:50] <ulrichard_> hitsujiTMO: Ok, I'll try reconfiguring. The live boot would be complicated, as it has full disk encryption with the key on a smart card.
[20:51] <hitsujiTMO> ulrichard_: in that case, while its not normally advisable, you could temporarily enable the root user, or append your user to the root group while you fix the issue
[20:53] <hitsujiTMO> ulrichard_: if you do enable root user, boot with the kernel mode text as i've seen lightdm break just because the root user is enabled.
[20:57] <csst0111> ln -sfn /usr/bin/keytool /usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.7.0_45/jre/bin/keytool    shouldn't this command work ?
[20:57] <csst0111> and change keytool from pointing to /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-i386/jre/bin/keytool  ?
[20:59] <akurilin> I'm constantly getting issues with lightdm and my multi-monitor setup. Does anybody know if there are DMs out there that tend to be extra multi-monitor friendly?
[20:59] <akurilin> I'm having to constantly reboot lightdm every time I lock the computer :(
[20:59] <cgt> akurilin: I don't know, but try gdm
[21:00] <hitsujiTMO> csst0111: do you have the params the wrong way around?
[21:00] <wilee-nilee> akurilin, I doubt it is a dm issue.
[21:00] <csst0111> hitsujiTMO, omg!! let me check !
[21:01] <akurilin> wilee-nilee, it's likely got something to do with video drivers. The card is one of those recent integrated Intel HD4600 and so I had to do the enablement stack to get it to work
[21:02] <csst0111> hitsujiTMO, you are right! Thank you... my mistake :(
[21:02] <hellangel> trism, also, when i fullscreen flash videos in chromium on my second screen, i get the fullscreen window on my main screen... sigh :p
[21:03] <Prock81> how can i mount a zfs slice that shows up as /dev/sdc3 , i have zfs-fuse installed
[21:06] <wilee-nilee> akurilin, I would make a second user and see it it is happening there.
[21:07] <akurilin> wilee-nilee, how would that make a difference? I'm curious.
[21:07] <MonkeyDust> Prock81  some 200 people in #zfsonlinux
[21:07] <wilee-nilee> akurilin, a new user without the tweaks you have done, may exspose the tweaks you have done.
[21:07] <Prock81> cool thanks
[21:07] <txomon> anyway thanks k1l
[21:07] <wilee-nilee> if you remember them, lol
[21:10] <strigga> Hey, my ubuntu13 ext4 fs on /Dev/sda2 went to read only. It seems to have happened after i caused a typo in /etc/network/interfaces. But i cannot remove the txpo. Any ideas?? .
[21:11] <strigga> Problem: i am on the phone now and cannot Post any logs..
[21:12] <hitsujiTMO> strigga: sudo mount -o remount,rw /
[21:12] <shynn> hello all
[21:16] <akurilin> wilee-nilee, I see. I don't think I did any, but that's a good check to make.
[21:16] <BooeyOH> In a bit of a crisis here, on 12.04, why would my load be 30+ with no high memory or cpu usage
[21:16] <Patero-ng> anyone here what means relative url versus url in w3m ubuntu server?
[21:16] <BooeyOH> I also get this error when I do a sudo command "...sudo: unable to open /var/lib/sudo...."
[21:17] <k1l> BooeyOH: please put the whole errormessage into a pastebin
[21:18] <strigga|2> hitsujiTMO: Where should I send the beer? : Thanks!
[21:18] <hitsujiTMO> strigga|2: :)
[21:18] <Patero-ng> there are 1754 people on this channel is gotta be one of the most populated
[21:19] <Prock81> how much difference is there from 13.10 and 13.04 , like would Unity Tweak Tool stop working as it cant work on 12.04
[21:19] <Prock81> what changes like that? ^
[21:19] <strigga|2> hitsujiTMO: it seems that was cause by virtualbox services unable to run when the /etc/network/interfaces is buggy..
[21:20] <k1l> Prock81: unity-tweak tool was not in the official repos in 12.04
[21:20] <hitsujiTMO> strigga|2: ah yeah, prob relies too much on its network interface working :P
[21:20] <BooeyOH> k1l: http://pastebin.com/Sfy96Q9F
[21:20] <strigga|2> ..pushing the FS to read only for some reason.
[21:20] <Prock81> is it in 13.10
[21:20] <wrl_> anyone have ideas as to why the dashboard is not working?
[21:20] <k1l> Prock81: it is since 13.04
[21:20] <Prock81> is 13.10 LTS?
[21:21] <hitsujiTMO> 13.10 is not lts
[21:21] <wrl_> no
[21:21] <k1l> Prock81: no, why should it? LTS are only every 2 year release
[21:21] <genii> Prock81: 14.04 will be the next LTS
[21:21] <Prock81> when does it come out
[21:21] <bekks> in april 14 ...
[21:21] <k1l> BooeyOH: see the message. the filesystem is read-only. see syslog for what is going on
[21:21] <genii> Prock81: 2014, 4th month....
[21:21] <hitsujiTMO> 14.04: 14 - 2014, 04 = april :)
[21:21] <bazhang> april 2014
[21:22] <Patero-ng> bazhang: your birthday?
[21:22] <BooeyOH> k1l: there are no syslog messages in the last hour, something is definately weird here
[21:23] <bazhang> !14.04 | Patero-ng
[21:23] <k1l> BooeyOH: yep. better check the system. maybe the hdd is failing (which would cause alot of load, too)
[21:23] <BooeyOH> k1l: even more worriesom, this is on a virtual machine :(
[21:24] <hitsujiTMO> BooeyOH: there are going to be no syslog messages for the last hour if your hdd was mounted as ro an hour ago ... see the last entries for any indication of what would kick it into ro mode
[21:29] <dracnoc> . /usr/bin/byobu-reconnect-sockets
[21:33] <ned__> quick question... whats the ubuntu task manager for shutting down a prog??
[21:33] <fishscene> Well there's "System Monitor"
[21:34] <k1l> or top/htop for the terminal
[21:34] <Marlenee> iam try to running cssh on my server and get this error for display
[21:34] <Marlenee> Can't connect to display `unix:0': No such file or directory at /usr/share/perl5/X11/Protocol.pm line 2264.
[21:34] <bekks> or "kill" in a terminal.
[21:35] <ned__> used sys monitor, killed processes but prog still open ...hmmm
[21:35] <shynn> I'm looking for a program like cpuZ for win that tell me all about frequence and power consume of cpu
[21:35] <OerHeks> !lmsensors
[21:37]  * shynn ubottu  is it in the reposity?
[21:38] <ned__> playing secondlife... it froze.. now cant close it... grrr
[21:38] <OerHeks> shynn, sudo apt-get install lm-sensors && sudo sensors-detect # and hit yes on any question
[21:39] <k1l> ned__: there is "xkill"
[21:41] <fishscene> ned__: Is "WINE" running? You might have to kill that if secondlife is running in Wine
[21:41] <bekks> fishscene: secondlife runs natively on linux, IIRC.
[21:41] <ned__> no its a linux secondlife.. but ty
[21:41] <fishscene> oops. nvm then. I'm not yet used to native linux games. :)
[21:42] <cuddylier> Anyone know why this bash script doesn't work? http://pastebin.com/tHrDPXXN It says this error: survivalscript.sh: 3: survivalscript.sh: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[21:42] <ned__> on the launcher, click quit, no joy, sys monitor, closed processes no joy, might be a thing with the new salamander...
[21:43] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: put a $ before the (
[21:43] <cuddylier> Ah okay
[21:44] <buraker|2> hi
[21:44] <buraker|2> is it possible to install ubuntu touch onto phone using debian os?
[21:45] <hitsujiTMO> buraker|2: #ubuntu-touch
[21:45] <Patero-ng> how does ubuntu server gets an ip from router when it doesn't have dhcpcd and can I use that method so I can unistall dhcpcd to save space
[21:45] <buraker|2> thank you
[21:45] <bekks> Patero-ng: "ifconfig"
[21:46] <Patero-ng> bekks: can ifconfig act as a dhcp client?
[21:46] <bekks> Patero-ng: And the dhcp package is about a few kilobytes, that will not save that much space.
[21:46] <k1l> Patero-ng: you dont need dhcp on the client. the router manages that
[21:46] <hellangel> Patero-ng, if you get an ip from your router, it actually does have a dhcp
[21:47] <Patero-ng> so how does it do it? I want to uninstall dhcpcd and do it like ubuntu does on boot
[21:47] <H1FuelCell> I'm inside a directory owned by a group www-data
[21:47] <H1FuelCell> the directory's permissions allow the group to write to it
[21:48] <k1l> Patero-ng: can you rephrase what you want with what device?
[21:48] <Prock81> how can i auto mount (or mount at all) a zfs drive
[21:48] <H1FuelCell> I'm logged in as a user that belongs to www-data
[21:48] <H1FuelCell> but I'm unable to write anything, 'Permission denied'
[21:48] <hitsujiTMO> dhcpcd is a dhcp client. you would have to specify static ips without it
[21:48] <H1FuelCell> what could be the problem?
[21:48] <Prock81> just for data storage
[21:48] <hellangel> Prock81, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZFS
[21:48] <hellangel> have a look here :)
[21:49] <bekks> Patero-ng: Either you want to uninstall dhcpcd or you eant a dhcp address. Decide yourself.
[21:49] <hitsujiTMO> !zfs | Prock81
[21:49] <Patero-ng> k1l: I want to auto configure my ip and dns without dhcpcd with just one command no manual ip input
[21:49] <H1FuelCell> /usr/share/www$ ll
[21:49] <H1FuelCell> total 8
[21:49] <H1FuelCell> drwxrwsr-x  2 root www-data 4096 Oct 26 20:40 ./
[21:50] <Patero-ng> bekks: I want to know how ubuntu does it on boot
[21:50] <bekks> Patero-ng: BY using dhcpcd.
[21:50] <hitsujiTMO> Patero-ng: the dhcpcd is what auto configs your ip.
[21:50] <bekks> !info dhcpcd
[21:50] <baggar11> H1FuelCell: you've made the "user" apart of the www-data group already? Then try "chmod -R g+w /var/www/*"
[21:50] <bekks> Patero-ng: You would save 151kB. Thats not even worth trying.
[21:50] <hellangel> H1FuelCell, maybe you do not have the rights to view a parent directory
[21:51] <baggar11> H1FuelCell: err... chmod -R g+w /var/www should do it, no * needed
[21:51] <xanux> ping
[21:52] <H1FuelCell> baggar11: I applied the permissions again with the -R flag, but no luck yet
[21:52] <Gallomimia> module-init-tools: unrecognized service (what does this mean?) I'm trying to get thru this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[21:52] <hitsujiTMO> H1FuelCell: did you relog after adding yourself to the www-data group?
[21:52] <H1FuelCell> hellangel: yes... /usr/share/www belongs to root and group www-data, but /usr/share belongs to root root
[21:52] <H1FuelCell> no hitsujiTMO
[21:53] <H1FuelCell> gonna try that now!
[21:53] <baggar11> H1FuelCell: try doing this "sudo adduser *youruser* www-data"
[21:53] <hitsujiTMO> H1FuelCell: you need to relog for your account to pick up the group
[21:53] <baggar11> H1FuelCell: then logout and back in with the user
[21:53] <guest-lJMjYi> Hey everyone. I recently upgraded to 13.10. All was going okay then I plugged from my laptop HDMI to TV. disconnectinged to some issues, and now randomly on reboot, logging into my account gives a blank screen, but logging into guest all is fine. Logged into reg account and HDMI plugged in, it works as expected, upon unplugging it will work as expected, but unplugged and reboot, blank screen after login
[21:53] <quotemstr> Why the hell is Ubuntu not configured with the discard (TRIM) mount option by default?
[21:53] <H1FuelCell> yay! that was it baggar11  hitsujiTMO
[21:53] <H1FuelCell> thanks guys :)
[21:54] <k1l> quotemstr: there were problems with trim with the first ssd series
[21:54] <hitsujiTMO> quotemstr: because it is beleived to have poor performance when dealing with small files
[21:54] <hitsujiTMO> quotemstr: it's better to add it as a daily cron
[21:55] <Patero-ng> bekks: as far I know ubuntu server doesn't come with dhcpcd yet I think it does dhcp
[21:55] <cuddylier> tar -czf survivalbackup-$(date +%Y-%m-%d).tar.gz /home/servers/survival
[21:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> Heyo. any suggestions of applications/tutorials to create a *good* pdf from multiple html files?
[21:55] <cuddylier> Would that be a good tar command?
[21:55] <bekks> Patero-ng: It comes with dhcpcd.
[21:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> cuddylier: you could replace $() with ``
[21:56] <cuddylier> I see
[21:56] <bekks> cuddylier: And you should backup all permissions too.
[21:56] <cuddylier> Would that change much more than looking nice?
[21:56] <hitsujiTMO> Patero-ng: 12.04.3 has isc-dhcp-client
[21:56] <cuddylier> What happens if the files are all 777?
[21:56] <cuddylier> As the boxes just have root users
[21:57] <bekks> cuddylier: File permissions being 777 and "root users" do have nothing in common.
[21:57] <cuddylier> True
[21:57] <cuddylier> How would I backup file permissions too?
[21:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> cuddylier: 777 means anyone can read/write/execute it
[21:58] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: if you're tarring -p preserves permissions
[21:58] <txithihausen> Hello felows. I'm dealing with a naive doubt. Is vmware-player on the ubuntu repository? I said that because i have enabled the sources main restricted, universe and multiverse and even with that I could not find out such package.
[21:58] <BenNZ> hi trying to use the mini iso for saucy , it starts the installer then freezes , ive also tried the advanced option , but that does the same thing , anyone know what might be wrong , md5sum matches
[21:58] <hitsujiTMO> txithihausen: no vmware player is not in an official repo
[21:58] <bekks> txithihausen: No.