[00:58] <tati> how do i configure a sound card with ubuntu 8.04?
[01:15]  * tati says how do i configure a sound card with ubutu 8.04?
[01:22] <Vantrax> configure? is it detected and installed?
[01:33] <tati> well, i'm not getting any sound from my speakers, and thought that i had to configure my sound card
[01:35] <tati> it has been installed
[02:41] <tati> i'm not getting sound with ubuntu 8.04...how can i fix that?
[03:28]  * tati ask does anyone know how to configure sound with ubuntu 8.04? i'm not getting any sound from my speakers
[03:29] <Chesamo> tati: Why are you using such an old version?
[03:29] <tati> i was given this computer and it already had ubuntu on it
[03:30] <Chesamo> tati: Can you not upgrade?
[03:30] <tati> would that fix the problem?
[03:30] <tati> i'm not sure if my sound card is detected...
[03:30] <Chesamo> tati: ALSA and PuleAudio have come a long way since 2008.
[03:31] <tati> ok
[03:31] <Chesamo> tati: But if that doesn't work, you know where to find us
[03:32] <tati> so, would u happen to know what i could do to find out if my sound card is being detected?
[03:33] <Chesamo> tati: I can't recall the command off the top of my head, no
[03:33] <pedro3005> lspci
[03:33] <pedro3005> I think
[03:33] <tati> i'll try that
[03:34] <tati> thanks
[06:34]  * tati asks does anyone know how to deal with sound issues using ubuntu 8.04?
[06:47] <kermiac> tati: you still there?
[06:53] <tati> i'm still here
[06:55] <kermiac> tati: ok... so, first things first. what colour is the connector in the back of your pc that you've got the speakers connected to?
[06:56] <tati> green
[06:57] <kermiac> ok, have you tried using any other connectors?
[06:58] <tati> i  tried connecting it to the pink and got static and distorted sound
[06:58] <ZachK_> what's up tati
[06:59] <kermiac> tati: yeah, the pink is most likely the mic
[06:59] <kermiac> tati: have you got any other sound connectors on there?
[06:59] <tati> no i don't
[07:00] <kermiac> tati: ok. can you please run this command from a terminal
[07:00] <kermiac> speaker-test -c2 -l1 -twav
[07:00] <kermiac> it will just send a test sound
[07:00] <tati> ok
[07:02] <tati> there was no sound but this came up on the screen speaker-test 1.0.15  Playback device is default Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 2 channels WAV file(s) Rate set to 48000Hz (requested 48000Hz) Buffer size range from 2048 to 16384 Period size range from 1024 to 1024 Using max buffer size 16384 Periods = 4 was set period_size = 1024 was set buffer_size = 16384  0 - Front Left  1 - Front Right Time per period = 2.726377
[07:04] <kermiac> tati: ok, do you remember how to take a screenshot of alsamixer & upload it to imgbin? the same thing i got you to do a couple of days ago
[07:05] <kermiac> tati: it's just that some of the controls are in the screenshot - http://www.imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=1646
[07:05] <kermiac> oops, some of the controls *aren't* in the screenshot
[07:07] <tati> the only that i forgot is how to get alsamixer screenshot on my screen
[07:08] <kermiac> tati: ok, open a terminal window then type "alsamixer" (without the quotes) & then press enter
[07:09] <tati> ok...it came to me right before u typed  =)
[07:13] <kermiac> :)
[07:13] <tati> http://www.imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=1658
[07:15]  * kermiac looks
[07:17] <kermiac> hmm.. ok, nothing was missing from the original :(
[07:18] <tati> hmmm.....what should i do... i was trying to detect my sound card earlier but i didn't understand all the things that came up on the screen
[07:19] <ddecator> lspci | grep Audio
[07:20] <ddecator> that'll give you a cleaner output than before :)
[07:20] <kermiac> ddecator: 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller
[07:21] <kermiac> tati: what does "aplay -l" (w/o quotes) in a terminal window give you?
[07:22] <tati> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices **** card 0: I82801DBICH4 [Intel 82801DB-ICH4], device 0: Intel ICH [Intel 82801DB-ICH4]   Subdevices: 0/1   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: I82801DBICH4 [Intel 82801DB-ICH4], device 4: Intel ICH - IEC958 [Intel 82801DB-ICH4 - IEC958]   Subdevices: 1/1   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[07:23] <kermiac> hmmm... not "sdlmodem issue" either :(
[07:25] <kermiac> tati: can you run alsamixer again pls? The only other thing I can think of is trying to unmute the muted chanel in there, but i don't know if that will help or not
[07:25] <kermiac> tati: but it's worth a try
[07:25] <tati> ok
[07:27] <kermiac> tati: ok, when you have alsamixer running in your terminal window press the left arrow key until "Line Jac" is selected (highlighted red)
[07:27] <kermiac> tati: then press "m" to unmute. then press the escape key to quit alsamixer
[07:27] <kermiac> tati: then please try:     speaker-test -c2 -l1 -twav
[07:28] <tati> ok
[07:30] <tati> still no sound
[07:32] <tati> this came up on the screen: speaker-test 1.0.15  Playback device is default Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 2 channels WAV file(s) Rate set to 48000Hz (requested 48000Hz) Buffer size range from 2048 to 16384 Period size range from 1024 to 1024 Using max buffer size 16384 Periods = 4 was set period_size = 1024 was set buffer_size = 16384  0 - Front Left  1 - Front Right Time per period = 2.695879
[07:33] <kermiac> tati: hmm.. your speakers are powered on & the volume is turned up on the actual speakers, right?
[07:34] <tati> yes
[07:34] <kermiac> tati: sorry, I'm running out of ideas... The config may be messed up by the previous owner
[07:35] <tati> is there any way for me to fix it?
[07:36] <kermiac> tati: I highly recommend you downloading the Ubuntu 10.04 cd & trying it. You can boot it as a "live cd" to try it before installing & in that mode it won't overwrite any of your data that is currently stored on your pc
[07:36] <kermiac> tati: I'm sorry, there *may* be a way to fix it, but I'm out of ideas
[07:38] <tati> where would i download it from?
[07:38] <kermiac> tati: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download/
[07:38] <kermiac> your sound should work "out of the box" with this updated verion of Ubuntu
[07:39] <tati> thanks....i came across something else on my screen earlier...i'll show it to you...
[07:40] <tati> 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01) 	Subsystem: Dell Unknown device 012d 	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 21 	I/O ports at c800 [size=256] 	I/O ports at cc40 [size=64] 	Memory at ffa20400 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512] 	Memory at ffa20000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256] 	Capabilities: <access denied>
[07:41] <kermiac> tati: that's pretty "normal". it's just describing some of the features/settings of your soundcard
[07:41] <tati> so i shouldn't be worried about the access denied part?
[07:43] <kermiac> tati: no, it just means that whatever process was called doesn't have permission to ascertain the "capabilites" of your soundcard. It's nothing to worry about :)
[07:44] <tati> ok...
[07:46] <tati> can u explain the live cd option
[07:51] <kermiac> tati: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD
[07:58] <tati> kermiac: thanks.....could u look at another screen shot...i was able to show more controls on it
[07:59] <kermiac> tati: ok
[08:02] <tati> http://www.imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=1659
[08:24]  * kermiac looks at the screenshot
[08:25] <kermiac> hmm... you could try muting the "Aux" channel. although this is just a guess
[08:25] <tati> ok
[08:29] <tati> kermiac: that didn't work, do u recommend upgrading from the update manager?
[08:29] <kermiac> tati: :(
[08:30] <kermiac> tati: no, I would suggest you backup any important files & do a fresh install to ensure that there is no configuaration issues from the previous owner
[08:32] <kermiac> tati: another option if you want to keep 8.04 would be to file a bug report & then one of the audio devs/triagers would (hopefully) look into it for you
[08:32] <tati> hmmmm...
[08:34] <tati> kermiac: do u think i would  have printer problems after upgrading?
[08:37] <kermiac> Stati: no, Ubuntu 10.04 has the updated version of the hpip app I talked you through installing from source a couple of days ago. you would just need to install it from the "Hplip toolbox" using the Ubuntu software Center in 10.04
[08:38] <kermiac> tati: that would be a *lot* easier than what I talked you through the other day. It's just a matter of a few mouse clicks & entering your password. There is no need to goto the terminal to install this updated version in 10.04
[08:40] <tati> is it possible to download and install 10.04 without using a cd?
[08:40] <kermiac> tati: do you have a usb key?
[08:41] <tati> no
[08:43] <kermiac> tati: unfortunately you will either need a blank cd or a usb key that you are able to format to be able to install 10.04
[12:44] <pombreda> howdy .. I am on Ubuntu 8.04.4 LTS
[12:45] <pombreda> and I have a hw raid volume of 9TB available on which I want to create an mount an ext3 filesystem
[12:45] <pombreda> (the initial other 2x4.5 fs where created with the installer .. and I am not sure how to do it correctly from the command line)
[12:48] <pombreda> what would be the best way to proceed? a url pointer? kinda hard to find a straight foward one :)
[12:48] <pombreda> 1/ should I use LVM or not? (the original other fs where made in the installer using LVM)
[12:48] <pombreda> 2/ what are the best params for mkfs.ext3 in this context? I want a signle 9TB FS
[12:53] <pombreda> in /proc/scsi/scsi my device is visble as: Host: scsi1 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00   Vendor: HPT      Model: DISK 1-0         Rev: 4.00
[12:55] <pombreda> and I am up to date with the lastest mkfs.ext3
[12:55] <pombreda> pombredanne@deja02:~$ mkfs.ext3 -V
[12:55] <pombreda> mke2fs 1.40.8 (13-Mar-2008) Using EXT2FS Library version 1.40.8
[12:56] <phillw> pombreda: for 8.04 you can have a look at http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-ubuntu8.04-with-software-raid1 and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Installing on external or RAID hard disks
[12:57] <pombreda> thx, check this phillw :P
[12:58] <pombreda> note ubuntu is already installed, not on the hardware raid volumes, on regular disks. i have 27TB on this puppy :P
[12:59] <phillw> that 2nd link is a good resource of where to head for many different scenarios. :-)
[13:00] <pombreda> :)
[13:00] <pombreda> phillw: would you recommend using LVM  or not? once created the fileystem is not meant to grow or change
[13:00] <pombreda> growing would require another chassis anyway :D
[13:03] <ibuclaw> pombreda, LVM is good for when scalability is the key
[13:04] <ibuclaw> they just so happen to be also great for full disk encryption too. ;)
[13:04] <phillw> thanks ibuclaw, It's many years since i used RAID ;-)
[13:05] <pombreda> ibuclaw: :) no encryption needed there, this is an eopn source code mirror setup
[13:05] <ibuclaw> The only turn off of LVM for me is the sheer number of commands you must memorise. ;)
[13:06] <pombreda> ibuclaw: :P not for me then ...actually the raid is managed by 2 highpoint raid cards, the raid 6 arrys shows up as one disk to linux
[13:06] <ibuclaw> and when they go wrong ... they *really* go wrong. (Though nothing that shouldn't be fixable ... unless you execute Y before X)
[13:07] <pombreda> would you know how I know which is the /dev/xxx I can use for the kmfs?
[13:08] <pombreda> in /proc/scsi/scsi my device is visble as: Host: scsi1 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00 ... this is only thing I am sure off: this is that thingie
[13:08] <ibuclaw> pombreda, kmfs ?
[13:09] <pombreda> sry * mkfs.ext3
[13:09] <ibuclaw> pombreda, LVM partitions are accessible via /dev/mapper/
[13:09] <ibuclaw> if that is what you are asking
[13:10] <pombreda> sure, but atm this is not an lvm partition, this is not even a partition
[13:10] <ibuclaw> need a partition table setup?
[13:10] <pombreda> I know: so much large disks should not be trusted to an apprentice like me :D
[13:11] <pombreda> ibuclaw: need a partition table setup? ==> if you say so
[13:11] <ibuclaw> oh, don't leave it up to me to ruin your setup. :þ
[13:13] <pombreda> hehe
[13:16] <pombreda> so now I have these devices /dev/sda  /dev/sda1  /dev/sdb  /dev/sdc  /dev/sdc1  /dev/sdc2  /dev/sdc5  /dev/sdd  /dev/sdd1  /dev/sdd2  /dev/sde  /dev/sde1  /dev/sde5 : hwo would I know which one is my raid stuff in /proc/scsi/scsi : Host: scsi1 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00  ?
[13:18] <ibuclaw> pombreda, what does these two commands say:
[13:18] <ibuclaw> sudo fdisk -l
[13:18] <ibuclaw> sudo blkid
[13:18] <ibuclaw> pombreda, http://paste.ubuntu.com
[13:18] <pombreda> of course :)
[13:18] <ibuclaw> don't paste the output here... you'll be kicked from the server ;)
[13:19] <ibuclaw> though you may find the output self explanatory that you needn't show and tell.
[13:22] <pombreda> http://paste.ubuntu.com/437284/  and http://paste.ubuntu.com/437287/
[13:23] <ibuclaw> Actually, I need to scoot off on a rampage south
[13:23] <pombreda> ibuclaw: no pro, thx for the help so far :)
[13:23] <pombreda> I can see from the 1st one the two 9tb arrays and the three 1tb disks allright
[13:24] <pombreda> still not sure which one is sda and which one is sbd
[13:26] <ibuclaw> well, this may give some indication on locations. (though not much)
[13:26] <ibuclaw> find /sys -name sda
[13:26] <ibuclaw> find /sys -name sdb
[13:26] <pombreda> ie I knwo for sure that in http://paste.ubuntu.com/437289/  HPT DISK 1_0 is my new empty array that I want
[13:27] <pombreda> running the finds :P
[13:27] <pombreda> I have /sys/block/sda and /sys/block/sdb allright
[13:28] <ibuclaw> pombreda, I'd make an educated guess and say: scsi1 == sdb
[13:28] <ibuclaw> as the order of http://paste.ubuntu.com/437289/
[13:29] <ibuclaw> should mirror the order of http://paste.ubuntu.com/437284/
[13:29] <pombreda> fair enough .. I knwo the existing mounted one has LVM volumes and 2 x ext3 4.5TB fs mounted already ... let me see if something in the lvm can help there
[13:29] <ibuclaw> and sdb isn't mentioned in http://paste.ubuntu.com/437287/
[13:29] <pombreda> I need to be sure :P
[13:30] <pombreda> good point, ibuclaw
[13:30] <ibuclaw> anyway, you should have all info there to figure it out.
[13:30] <ibuclaw> pombreda, you using GUI to configure / setup ?
[13:30] <pombreda> no, cli
[13:30] <pombreda> no giu on that beast
[13:30] <pombreda> *giu
[13:30] <ibuclaw> ;)
[13:31] <ibuclaw> well, good luck anyway....
[13:31] <ibuclaw> Bus in 10 minutes.
[13:31] <pombreda> it has a high end nvidia with a gig of ram, but that will be for gpu computing only
[13:31] <ibuclaw> /suspend
[13:31] <pombreda> ibuclaw: thx ++
[13:32] <pombreda> so I have made good progress thanks to ibuclaw : I know that ny 9tb array in on /dev/sdb or /dev/sdb1 and i need 4bk block size with ext3
[13:32] <pombreda> now do i need a partitition?
[13:33] <pombreda> the message "WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sdb'! The util fdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted. " in http://paste.ubuntu.com/437284/ is kinda scaring the sh*t out of me :D
[13:33]  * pombreda goes after gparted
[13:35] <pombreda> The program 'gparted' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install gparted ==> I am amazed that ubuntu knew it was not there :D
[13:36] <pombreda> shoot: gparted needs a head, a gtk gui :|
[14:11] <pombreda> well still not too far atm
[14:16] <pombreda> bbiam
[14:19] <raz_> Hi all, I have a problem with installing GRUB, would it be ok to link the relevant Ubuntu help page for reference?
[14:21] <Akos> of course raz_, go ahead and link away (:
[14:21] <Akos> someone will help you for sure
[14:22] <raz_> Thanks! It's http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1488917
[14:24] <raz_> as my reply to forestpiskie indicates, I have the menu.lst file (corresponding to grub1?) but I followed the installation process for grub2
[14:26] <mohi1> raz_,  is the boot screen displaying for ya??. if yes, is it showing 'grub>' ??
[14:26] <raz_> yes sir
[14:27] <raz_> I removed the windows partition and simply want to automatically (or otherwise for that matter) to enter ubuntu
[14:27] <raz_> I figured grub didn't recognise the kernal maybe?
[14:28] <mohi1> i think i had seen this problem before. lemme surf a bit raz_ =]
[14:29] <raz_> Thanks a million mate, take your time. If you need any more info as to my actions ask away
[14:29] <dioltop> I need to login as root, but logged in as root I can't access files available to my other user.  How do I do it?
[14:31] <fatius> On lucid I'd rather not boot into X11, so I unsintalled gdm, but it still seems to start X for a second (and tells me it didn't start properly). anyone know how to disable X totally from starting at boot? (Without uninstalling it)
[14:32] <mohi1> dioltop, get the root by using nautilus and its not really safe to do it
[14:32] <Chesamo> dioltop: sudo nautilus
[14:33] <mohi1> Chesamo, =]
[14:33] <Chesamo> fatius: sudo apt-get purge xinit (will remove the X initializer)
[14:33] <dioltop> wait, but I need to login as root.  When logined as another user, I get 'access denied' to mount my usb.  I don't want to login as root to avoid this?  I can't figure out a way around the mount problem in the normal user..
[14:34] <Chesamo> dioltop: do you understand the sudo command?
[14:34] <dioltop> I get the feeling I dont
[14:34] <mohi1> raz_, http://www.linuxselfhelp.com/gnu/grub/html_chapter/grub_4.html
[14:34] <Chesamo> dioltop: there's only one thing that you _must_ do as root, and that's direct hardware interface. And that's not anything anyone needs to do, ever.
[14:35] <Chesamo> dioltop: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[14:35] <mohi1> identify the boot drives and try them. i think it will help ya =]
[14:35] <raz_> thanks mohi1, i'll check it out shortly!
[14:35] <dioltop> ok, well I don't know how to use my usb storage device outside of root, I googled but using root user is the only thing I can purchase with
[14:36] <mohi1> dioltop, actually what is your main purpose for being root now??
[14:36] <Chesamo> dioltop: sudo mount /dev/usb0 /media/usb0
[14:36] <dioltop> i want to make a usb boot disk
[14:37] <mohi1> dioltop, its that you have to mount as Chesamo said
[14:37] <Chesamo> dioltop: Anything that can be done in root can be done via sudo. sudo gives you temporary root permissions.
[14:37] <fatius> Chesamo: that seems extreme to stop X from starting on boot. I still want to be able to start with xinit (which is the normal way, IRRC), I just don't want it ot start automatically at boot. I'll keep looking
[14:37] <mohi1> brb in 10 mins
[14:38] <Chesamo> fatius: does startx not work when xinit is uninstalled? I've done it once or twice but I've not run without a graphical environment in a while.
[14:38] <fatius> Chesamo: according to man, startx is a frontend for xinit
[14:39] <fatius> Chesamo: ideally, I just want to remove something from init.d to stop it from happening, but tehre is nothing obvious in there.
[14:39] <Chesamo> fatius: Have you given this a shot? http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/prevent-xorg-from-starting-in-linux/
[14:42] <Chesamo> fatius: Instead of uninstalling GDM, it just disables it... that may be why it tries to boot right into X
[14:43] <Chesamo> fatius: Then fails because there's no display manager like XDM or anything
[14:45] <fatius> Chesamo: i'll give it a shot. Seems strange to have to have GDM installed to disable X though. There must be something i'm missing.
[14:46] <Chesamo> fatius: Well, I think when you uninstall GDM, it changes the X start parameters. If GDM is installed, it uses GDM to start X. If it's not installed, it uses something else.
[14:46] <Chesamo> "it" being "Ubuntu"
[14:47] <fatius> Chesamo: yeah. but that's what I'm interested in... changing the X start parameters to "don't start, I'll handle it."
[14:47] <Chesamo> fatius: I wish I knew... startup isn't my strong point, sorry.
[14:49] <fatius> Chesamo: thanks a lot though, it's been very enlightening.
[14:49] <Chesamo> fatius: No problem. Good luck!
[14:58] <fatius> Chesamo: more info, even after installing gdm, but removing it from init.d (as tehy do in that URL)... something fishy is going on here.
[14:58] <Chesamo> fatius: Details?
[14:59] <fatius> Chesamo: if i do: "update-rc.d -f gdm remove" and reboot... ubuntu still starts up GDM and gives me the X login screen.
[15:00] <Chesamo> fatius: Did you try the other terminal method?
[15:01] <fatius> Chesamo: i tried sysv-rc-conf, but it shows that it shouldn't be starting up.
[15:01] <fatius> Chesamo: that's all thoes tools do is remove it from the /etc/rc stuff.
[15:07] <Chesamo> fatius: That's all I can think of, I'm not sure what else needs to be done.
[16:09] <kiobolt> i have a usb boot disk, how do I boot from it in karmic?
[16:09] <Chesamo> You can't boot from an OS to a USB drive, since you can't boot from one OS into another (with certain exceptions)
[16:10] <Chesamo> Can you get into your computer's BIOS?
[16:10] <kiobolt> I don't know how
[16:10] <Chesamo> You'll need to.
[16:10] <Chesamo> Watch when your computer's booting, it should say something like "DEL to enter setup, F8 to enter boot list"
[16:11] <kiobolt> oh, ok, so in there when I enter boot list I don't see my usb as an available option in the boot order list
[16:12] <Chesamo> How is your drive formatted? As in, what did you do to make the USB drive a boot disk
[16:14] <kiobolt> i can't find the instructions I googled
[16:14] <kiobolt> How is it formatted, ie what filesystem?
[16:16] <Chesamo> kiobolt: yes, also I need to know what kind of boot disk you created
[16:25] <kiobolt> i used ext.2 and i created eeebuntu boot disk
[16:27] <Chesamo> kiobolt: What utility or process did you use to create the disk?
[16:28] <kiobolt> USB Startup Disk Creator
[16:48] <phillw> kiobolt: usb startup disk creator is for making usb boot disks, not for booting from them
[16:51] <Chesamo> phillw: Yes, I asked what they used to make the disk
[16:52] <phillw> Chesamo: i was replying to (16:09:07) kiobolt: i have a usb boot disk, how do I boot from it in karmic? -- You're question may have appeared while my WiFi was just restting itself :-)
[16:52] <Chesamo> phillw: I gathered
[16:52] <phillw> sorry for any confusion
[16:52] <Chesamo> kiobolt: Did you plug in the drive before or after entering the boot disk menu?
[17:00] <raz_> how do i change irc channel in here? lol
[17:50] <subway24> i do not know much about sex, this is for beginners right? so how do i do it?
[17:50] <paultag> subway24, well there is a part of the male genitalia called a "penis" and a part of the womanly anatomy called a "vagina"
[17:50] <paultag> sardonyx, and when they touch, jesus blesses you and a stork brings a kid
[17:50] <subway24> i know, but what do you do with it
[17:51] <paultag> sed s/sardonyx/subway24/g
[17:51] <paultag> subway24, dude, you are talking to a /b/tard. if you want to bring the pain, it won't be lulzworthy. try #ubuntu or #windows
[17:54] <drubin> /kick paultag
[17:54] <paultag> drubin, :P
[17:54] <drubin> I would if I had access ;-p
[17:54] <drubin> paultag: How have you been?

[17:55] <paultag> drubin, not bad, man. how are you?
[17:56] <drubin> paultag: pretty cool.
[17:56] <paultag> legit
[17:56] <paultag> there. And that, my friends, is how you deal with trolls
[17:56] <drubin> paultag: Nah it is easier to ban them.
[17:56] <paultag> nah
[17:56] <paultag> they keep coming back
[17:56] <paultag> seemed like a good kid
[17:57] <drubin> what is a /b/tard?
[17:57] <paultag> drubin, they live on 4chan /b/
[17:57] <paultag> drubin, http://boards.4chan.org/b/
[17:58] <paultag> NSFW!
[17:59] <drubin> wtf
[18:02] <drubin> I am not allowed to read 4chan
[18:02] <paultag> haha
[18:34] <Chesamo> I read the backlog and was all "wtf"
[18:38] <komputes> Hi everyone!
[18:39] <Chesamo> Hi, komputes!
[18:39] <komputes> I have a question concerning duplicating a hard drive without using dd (I don't want to touch the block device layer).
[18:42] <komputes> so from a LiveCD I do "sudo -s ; cp -a /media/internal/* /media/usb" followed by "--root-directory=/media/usb /dev/sdb" to reinstall GRUB/MRB on the second disk.
[18:43] <komputes> err..."grub-install --root-directory=~/usbdrive/ /dev/sdb"
[18:45] <komputes> sheesh..."grub-install --root-directory=/media/usb/ /dev/sdb"
[19:26] <komputes> but grub.cfg still has the internal disk UUID instead of the USB disk UUID. What is the proper way to update grub so that it uses the proper UUID?
[19:26] <Chesamo> komputes: can you not use /dev/sdb0 instead of the UUID?
[19:27] <Chesamo> komputes: Because I know you can in fstab, but I don't know about grub.cfg
[19:27] <komputes> Chesamo: there is no sdb- device only sdb
[19:27] <komputes> no sdb0
[19:27] <Chesamo> komputes: in any case. /dev/sdb
[19:28] <komputes> I can, but I fail to see how does hardcoding the disk device instead of the partition UUID will help me
[19:29] <Chesamo> komputes: Maybe I'm not sure what you're asking... I set all of my fstab and grub entries in device paths (/dev/*) instead of UUIDs because it's simpler that way
[19:35] <komputes> Chesamo: I'm asking for the process to copy contents of a disk to another disk and making the second disk bootable.
[19:36] <Chesamo> komputes: Yes, I can see that. You copied everything over, right?
[19:36] <komputes> using cp -a
[19:40] <Chesamo> komputes: you did NOT set up GRUB, correct?
[19:44] <komputes> Chesamo: tried to, with "grub-install --root-directory=/media/usb/ /dev/sdb" but grub.cfg still contained the UUID of the old installation
[20:17] <hobgoblin> evening
[20:19] <Chesamo> evening, hobgoblin
[20:19] <hobgoblin> hi Chesamo
[20:20] <nigelb> heya hobgoblin :)
[20:20] <hobgoblin> o/
[20:20] <nigelb> how are you doing?
[20:20] <hobgoblin> pretty good ty
[20:20] <nigelb> good to see you after long :)
[20:24] <hobgoblin> oh I am always about - off and on :p
[20:26] <hobgoblin> nigelb: so how have you been then?
[20:37] <nigelb> hobgoblin: so far, great :)
[20:58] <Des_> Hey, does anybody in here have the Global Menu applet?
[20:59] <starcraftman> Des_: problem with it? If you point me to I can try.
[21:01] <Des_> starcraftman: It's not neccessarily a "problem", per se, just me wanting to save space. I want to have that take up my full top panel and still have access to applications menu. In screenshots of this I've seen a little dropdown button next to the global menu that allows access to this. I'm wondering if that's possible.
[21:03] <Des_> Sorry, I have to go a doctor's appointment. I'll ask later.
[21:03] <starcraftman> well alright
[21:11] <ibuclaw> I presume he is talking about the alternate menu applet
[22:29] <Timo_> hey, I'm watching a tv serie, and every 10 min the screen is going black (lock screen), does anyone know how to turn this off?
[22:30] <Chesamo> Timo_: Turn off your screensaver?
[22:30] <Timo_> yup
[22:30] <Timo_> got it
[22:30] <Timo_> thanks
[23:46] <Des_> Ehhh...... I fixed my other issue but did something REALLY stupid.....
[23:47] <Des_> I accidently deleted my social networking applet in 10.04, any way to get that back? I still have the mail icon, but I don't have the one the is usually next to it, with my name and the speech bubble. It's not in the add to panel menus either.
[23:48] <Des_> And once again I found it immediately..... Sorry.
[23:48] <Des_> Goodbye.