[10:02] <ikonia> ihre: normally you will find it the other way around, that cpu wait is caused by disk/io wait, not disk i/o wait caused by CPU
[10:02] <malinator> ihre: you can also try some kind of monitoring utils like cacti ... http://www.linuxscrew.com/2012/03/22/linux-monitoring-tools/
[10:03] <llutz> malinator: zabbix IS a monitoring util
[10:04] <ihre> malinator: I've worked with Cacti, yet I wish to learn Zabbix. ikonia: you're right, I've told it in the wrong way. I'm trying to find all processes with top state D at the moment, like described on http://bencane.com/2012/08/06/troubleshooting-high-io-wait-in-linux/
[10:04] <malinator> llutz: yes , its mentioned on link
[10:08] <ihre> malinator: problem is, all sorts of monitoring tools report the same problems, yet it can be difficult to pinpoint what the actual issue is.
[10:09] <DeepBlue> i wanna extract daa and uif  files
[10:11] <llutz> !info daa2iso | DeepBlue see uif2iso too, cnvert into iso, extract, done
[10:22] <sunny_le> i have an usb drive having fat filesystem, when i am mounting it is telling specify the file system type, but doing with -t option still it fails.
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> sunny_le: when you last unplugged it, did you use the safe removal feature in your OS?
[10:23] <sunny_le> ActionParsnip, i mistakenly removed it, when the data transfer was still going on.
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> sunny_le: then you may want to fsck the partition to make sure it is healthy
[10:24] <sunny_le> ActionParsnip, will it work as the file system is FAT ?
[10:25] <sunny_le> because till i know it repairs only linux filesystem
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> sunny_le: yes as the definitions for FAT are open and known
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> sunny_le: there is fsck.vfat
[10:25] <sunny_le> ActionParsnip, ok
[10:27] <njsg> sunny_le: fsck is a wrapper that calls the appropriate tool, if any
[10:27] <njsg> the ones that work on linux filesystems still depend on the filesystem, say, fsck.ext3
[10:27] <geirha> you'll likely have to install an additional package to get fsck for fat
[10:27] <njsg> same for hfsplus and hfs
[10:29] <debfan> can someone help me with an ntp problem?   my time is out ... I think it's called an 'offset'
[10:29] <debfan> it's out 4 hrs and I want to sync it with a server but I don't know how
[10:30] <sunny_le> njsg, hoping to solve the prob now
[10:30] <njsg> debfan: you need to run ntp-client or somehow force a simple "set to the remote date"
[10:31] <debfan> njsg: how?
[10:31] <debfan> I have ntp and ntpdate installed
[10:31] <njsg> I mean, I am not sure if ntpd wouldn't do that automatically, maybe it does for large skews
[10:31] <njsg> let me see how is it handled here
[10:31] <BrixSat> :)
[10:31] <ikonia> njsg: you  can't sync a drift bigger then 300 seconds, so you'd need to use ntpdate to set the time in sync, then ntpd to keep it in sync
[10:32] <debfan> the last thing i did is run ntpdate -s ntp.ubuntu.com
[10:32] <debfan> but, nothing output
[10:32] <ikonia> njsg: sorry, that was meant for debfan
[10:32] <njsg> debfan: ah, ntp-client uses ntpdate here
[10:32] <njsg> debfan: the usual thing in UNIX is for commands to output nothing if they do what they are expected to do
[10:32] <njsg> did the clock time change?
[10:33] <debfan> I have no idea what to do...  the problem is the display was showing UTC time - which was the wrong local time
[10:33] <njsg> debfan: oh, -s sends output to syslog
[10:33] <debfan> so, I manually changed it and now it's out 4 hrs
[10:33] <njsg> maybe try without the -s
[10:33] <CatKiller> debfan: Use the timezone package instead
[10:33] <njsg> you can also do -v for more verbosity
[10:34] <CatKiller> debfan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime
[10:34] <njsg> wait, one thing is the timezone, the other is the clock sync
[10:34] <debfan> can you tell me which command to use then?
[10:34] <njsg> do what CatKiller said, the clock sync will set the clock (in UTC terms) correctly
[10:34] <ikonia> debfan: I've already told you, you'd need to use ntpdate to set the time as it's over 300 seconds, then use ntpd to keep it in sync
[10:34] <CatKiller> It seems here that it's not that the clock was out of sync 4 hours, but that the clock was set 4 hours in the past/future to compensate for the timezone
[10:34] <njsg> debfan: it should involve setting /etc/timezone and something else
[10:35] <njsg> ah, /etc/localtime, too
[10:35] <CatKiller> The link I pasted has all the info: GUI, command line, and also explains how to keep the time in sync
[10:35] <debfan> okay, slow down guys, please :)
[10:36] <njsg> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime#Using_the_Command_Line_.28unattended.29 <-- jeps, I guess the reconfigure sets /etc/localtime
[10:36] <debfan> the time zone is set properly now...  I used... your how-to
[10:36] <sunny_le> njsg, what command to use ?  i am using this but no good result sudo dosfsck -w -r -l -a -v -t /dev/sdc1
[10:36] <debfan> I ran $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[10:36] <debfan> but
[10:37] <debfan> wait
[10:37] <debfan> think we're fixed now
[10:37] <sunny_le> njsg, also tried fsck.vfat /dev/sdd1 but same results.
[10:38] <debfan> thanks, guys!
[10:39] <CatKiller> sunny_le: What's the error message btw?
[10:39] <debfan> ikonia, njsg, Cat*what?* ;-)  .. you guys rule!   it's good now, I think
[10:39] <sunny_le> CatKiller, bogus number of FAT structure, can't find a valid FAT filesystem
[10:40] <CatKiller> sunny_le: What filesystem is supposed to be on sdd1?
[10:40] <CatKiller> Fat32?
[10:40] <sunny_le> vfat
[10:40] <Uragan> hi there!
[10:40] <sunny_le> yeah
[10:40] <arussel> I'm starting a java app that waits for input. I want it to keep running after I exit so I did: 'nohup java …   &' , but it still stops, any hint on what I'm doing wrong ?
[10:41] <CatKiller> sunny_le: You could use "testdisk" to try and access the filesystem
[10:41] <CatKiller> sudo apt-get install testdisk
[10:41] <CatKiller> then "sudo testdisk /dev/sdd1"
[10:42] <anhhungven> hi... wanna know how to install ubuntu on my smartphone?
[10:42] <geirha> arussel: It won't get any input if you background it.
[10:44] <sunny_le> CatKiller, testdisk ?
[10:44] <crocket> I'm using chromium 28.0.x.
[10:44] <geirha> arussel: Or maybe the issue is something else. The description is a bit vague so far.
[10:44] <crocket> When will I get a newer version of chromium?
[10:44] <crocket> I'm on ubuntu 13.04
[10:44] <CatKiller> sunny_le: It's a utility designed to recover partitions but it can also read filesystems. Basically to see if testdisk can detect the filesystem in question
[10:45] <geirha> arussel: "waits for input" from where? what does it do when it reaches end of input? "after I exit", exit what?
[10:45] <arussel> geirha: I don't want it to have any input, I just want it to wait, but somehow, adding nohup makes it stop
[10:45] <arussel> geirha: the user
[10:45] <arussel> exit the shell I used to run the command
[10:46] <geirha> arussel: so it wants input from the terminal? You deprive it of the possibility of that. So then it's up to the app how it chooses to handle that.
[10:46] <CatKiller> Once you run "testdisk" on your partition, select "proceed", choose "None" for partition type (sdd1 is already a partition, therefore non partitionned itself), then "Advanced", and there you should "see" your filesystem
[10:47] <geirha> arussel: Perhaps you'll want to run it with screen or tmux instead.
[10:47] <CatKiller> I think with FAT32 you might be able to browse the files
[10:47] <thinknow> Hi, why dosnt the software updater give me the chance to upgrade? I was waiting for bitcoin wallet to synch, and i got notification that i had to make a partial upgrade before i finish to upgrade to 13.04 (First 12.10. then 13.04 as i suppose you understand, i have 12.04, fresh install) Now when i check the software up to date, it just say its nothing, i have tried apt-get upgrade as well
[10:47] <CatKiller> otherwise you can create an image from the filesystem and then you could store this somewhere to fsck it
[10:47] <sunny_le> CatKiller, following what you said
[10:48] <arussel> geirha: screen might be better
[10:50] <crocket> Why was /etc/skel/.bashrc not copied to ~/.bashrc when I created a new account in ubuntu setup?
[10:50] <CatKiller> sunny_le: Some background on testdisk: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[10:51] <geirha> crocket: You probably used useradd instead of adduser
[10:52] <crocket> geirha, no
[10:52] <crocket> geirha, ubuntu graphical setup wizard had a user registration step.
[10:52] <crocket> I created a user there.
[10:52] <geirha> Oh, then it should've copied skel. That's odd.
[10:53] <geirha> crocket: It did create the homedirectory though?
[10:54] <Ponch0> hey room, how do I gcc and g++ to my path environment, or if it's possible, how do I install it so it's automatically added?
[10:55] <Ponch0> add*
[10:55] <arussel> geirha: any idea how to run a command in screen from a script ?
[10:55] <crocket> geirha, yes
[10:55] <crocket> geirha, .profile was copied.
[10:55] <crocket> .bashrc wasn't copied.
[10:55] <crocket> hmm
[10:55] <crocket> I could have removed .bashrc by accident, so I'll go check another ubuntu installation tomorrow morning.
[10:56] <geirha> arussel: screen -S nameofscreen -d -m java foo.bar
[10:58] <arussel> geirha: thanks
[11:01] <sunny_le> CatKiller, all that info was really useful :)
[11:02] <rapid> hi all , got this in console - nedd help what to do now ....xubuntu 13.10 beta 64bit....Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:02] <rapid> can someone help please
[11:04] <rapid> must tell you , that i used linux since a half year.....so my known is like a beginner...
[11:05] <Cute-Pianist> Ahoy hoy
[11:05] <Ben64> rapid: 13.10 support in #ubuntu+1 until release
[11:05] <ikonia> rapid: if you are new to linux, why are you not using the stable release until you get better
[11:05] <arussel> geirha: reading the man page, I would expect: 'screen -S foo -d -m ls' and then screen -list to show me foo as a session, but it just says no socket found. Shouldn't it start a new screen session and run 'ls' in it ?
[11:06] <Cute-Pianist> Boy it's quite in here
[11:06] <rapid> ikonia - its because i hope im right with the newest one
[11:07] <Ponch0> what is build-essential and do I need it?
[11:07] <kostkon> !info build-essential
[11:09] <Ponch0> ah thank u
[11:09] <arussel> geirha: got it, it does close the screen session when the command ends, which is not my case. Thanks again for your help
[11:11] <u3>  i cant get any sound in totem movie player
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> u3: do you get sound in other apps?
[11:11] <Dai_1987_> u3: use VLC
[11:11] <Dr_Willis> sound works otherwise? does the video play with sound in other players u3 ?
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> u3: also, what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> Dai_1987: if there is no sound in the system, it is irrelevant of the player
[11:13] <sunny_le> CatKiller, i got the details of the pendrive
[11:13] <sunny_le> how can i copy all those contents ?
[11:13] <u3> yes i get soind in other apes
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> apes...hahaha
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> u3: ok thats a good start, what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[11:13] <Dai_1987> I should think so, apes aren;t known for their silence
[11:13] <u3> ?
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> u3: run the command in a terminal and give the output
[11:15] <u3> run what command
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> u3: cat /etc/issue
[11:15] <u3> thanks
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> Sort of makes it hard to help if they keep leaveing. ;)
[11:19] <sunny_le> CatKiller, successfully done thank you :)
[11:20] <krypto> how can we upgrade kernel modules and package with out using apt,i have generated .deb packages from source
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> krypto: you will need to use dkms
[11:21] <Dr_Willis> !dkms
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> if you made a .deb err.. dont you like need to use apt/dpkg/gdebi/whatever to install the .deb   or am i missing somtning here
[11:25] <arussel> wasn't the all point of .deb to be installed with dpkg ?
[11:26] <krypto> using dpkg will it upgrade current version with out removing it
[11:26] <krypto> apt is having an old version
[11:29] <Dr_Willis> i think you may need to clarify exctly what you are doing.  I sence some details are missing  here.
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> krypto: what are you updating exactly?
[11:32] <DeepBlue> i downloaded the poweriso linux version package from the poweriso site ,but i don't no how 2 install  it
[11:32] <Dr_Willis> whats poweriso? whats the exact file name?
[11:34] <DeepBlue> Dr_Willis: poweriso-1.3.tar.gz
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> so its an archive you extract and look at whats in it.. see if it has some docs included. or if the web site has some instll docs
[11:35] <Dr_Willis> extract and run the binary in the extracted folder, is commonplace
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> DeepBlue: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[11:36] <kaddi> hi
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> DeepBlue: and what are you wanting to use poweriso for? There are plenty of packages to do poweriso stuff
[11:36] <DeepBlue> ActionParsnip: Linux Mint 15 Olivia \n \l
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> DeepBlue: not suppported here
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> !mint | DeepBlue
[11:36] <kaddi> has anybody here installed ubuntu on a samsung ativ book 9? (940x3g). Is it safe to do so or can it brick the machine? How well does linux run on it?
[11:37] <DeepBlue> ActionParsnip: i wanna extract daa and uif files
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> DeepBlue: your distribution is not supported in this channel or any of the ubuntu support channels
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> plus youve allredy basically been told what to do. :) extract the archive run the binaries in it. (or read its readme files in the archive)
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> i wonder when the last time poweriso for linux was even updated..  so many of these companies come out with linux versions of their apps.. then never update them
[11:39]  * James_WB shrugs
[11:39] <James_WB> linux has a pretty low market share
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> James_WB: so?
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> mow $$ because thers so many free apps that do the jobs these companies want to charge you for. ;)
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> low money from linux users. ;)
[11:40] <James_WB> ^^^
[11:41] <James_WB> or at least not enough to make it worthwhile
[11:41] <DeepBlue> Dr_Willis: i already have  but it asks for applications to open it
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> yet INtel and Nvidia and HP have supported Linux for years
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> I still find k3b beats most of the  burning apps that you 'pay' for on windows.
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> weird, despite having 'low market share'
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: you use CDs?
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> DeepBlue:  use the shell, dont double click.  run the binaries.. or read the docs if it has any
[11:41] <James_WB> hey we are talking about power iso and not hardware :p
[11:42] <Dr_Willis> ActionParsnip:  i got a stack here i must have bought 3 years ago.
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> James_WB: its still drivers, which are software
[11:42] <Dr_Willis> havent gone through the stack of 100 in 3 yers. :)
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: not used even a USB drive outside of OS installs
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: SFTP baby
[11:42] <Dr_Willis> Tempted to remove the cd/dvd/drive from  my other pc for more HD bays.
[11:42] <James_WB> i havnt ever used power iso ..
[11:43] <Dr_Willis> I do think i burnt some music cd's for an friends old car a few months back. ;)
[11:43] <Uragan> hi there! can help? i have ubuntu 12.04 and on load see error "hd0 no on the disk" and then BusyBox  whith initramfs...  what to do?
[11:43] <krypto> ActionParsnip Dr_Willis i have openvswitch version 1.4 running which lacks some features,i want to upgrade but ubuntu repo doesn't have this,so i generated .deb from latest source.Now i want my current version to be upgraded with out removing existing version
[11:43] <Dr_Willis> Uragan:  you sure it says 'hd0' ?
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> There is mounty for Linux too, or just use 'mount' to do it manually
[11:45] <Uragan> yes..  HD0
[11:45] <Uragan> you mean mount /dev/sda1 /mnt ?
[11:45] <Dr_Willis> actually grub uses the term HD# i think.
[11:46] <Dr_Willis> Id have to say try that boot-repair tool for starters. it fixs most issues people seem to have.
[11:46] <Dr_Willis> !fix-grub
[11:47] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub
[11:47] <Uragan> fixgrub - not found
[11:48] <Dr_Willis> read what the bot said....
[11:48] <crocket> How do I get a new version of chromium without PPA?
[11:48] <crocket> chromium is already too old
[11:48] <Dr_Willis> the urls it gave 0 detail how to fix the grub using the boot-repair tools
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> crocket: what is in the new version you need?
[11:48] <Dr_Willis> crocket:  compile from source perhaps?
[11:48] <Hulahoop> So, hi everyone
[11:49] <crocket> ActionParsnip, sourcemap support
[11:49] <crocket> It's old
[11:49] <Dr_Willis> easier to use a ppa. ;)
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> crocket: why are you averse to the PPA?
[11:49] <crocket> chromium 28.0.x doesn't recognize //# sourceMappingURL.
[11:49] <KettleCoo> I'm on Ubuntu server 12.04, and I want to install an older version of VSFTPD (apt-get install renders a newer version than what I want) - here's the older version: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+archive/ppa/+build/2976214 - how do I install that?
[11:49] <crocket> ActionParsnip, chromium should be maintained up to date by ubuntu.
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> crocket: its not a rolling-release distro, so no, it won't be bang up to date
[11:50] <Dr_Willis> !backports
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> crocket: https://launchpad.net/~a-v-shkop/+archive/chromium-dev   compiled 25 weeks ago
[11:50] <Ben64> KettleCoo: why older? its important to keep ftp servers updated, they're attacked a lot
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> crocket: although 28 is in raring universe
[11:51] <Dr_Willis> 25 weeks! thats way to old.
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: if its not the version from next month which the devs havent even made, it's too old
[11:51] <Dr_Willis> I want the version from 2019!
[11:51] <loa> Hello
[11:52] <Ponch0> hello room, I just made an .sh file executable to install a program, but when I double click it, it opens it in gedit and freezes?
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> Ponch0: the file extension means nothing in Linux
[11:53] <loa> I have strange problem, my ubuntu is working 24/7 and sometimes when i am not near computer it going to idle and stop responding on commands from keyboard and mouse
[11:53] <Dr_Willis> Ponch0:  dont double click it.. unless you want to make a .desktop file to launch it..
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> Ponch0: did you right click the file and tell it to run in a terminal in the file properties
[11:53] <Dr_Willis> then you run the launcher
[11:53] <loa> and looks like it just halts (
[11:53] <loa> somebody had such issue?
[11:53] <Ponch0> Ooooohh ok.
[11:53] <KettleCoo> Ben64: There's some sort of bug, "libgcc_s.so.1 must be installed for pthread_cancel", this is a desperate resort to try and see if an older version could actually work.
[11:54] <Ponch0> thank you.
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> Ponch0: this isn't windows, the '.sh' file does nothing but look messy
[11:54] <Ben64> KettleCoo: unlikely to be a bug
[11:55] <fishcooker> i've ubuntu box server with xserver with touch screen.. how to detect the touchscreen precisely
[11:55] <KettleCoo> Ben64: From the numerous threads I've found, especially the ones most up to date, seems to indicate it could be a bug but I'm not sure
[11:56] <KettleCoo> Ben64: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1937131&page=2
[11:56] <KettleCoo> (last comment is the last trace I could find of this issue)
[11:56] <Ponch0> ActionParsnip: ok ok, easy I was able to run it from the terminal by typing sh file.sh
[11:57] <Ben64> KettleCoo: you use the whole mysql thing?
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> Ponch0: if you right click the file, you can tick a box to tell the OS to run it in a terminal
[11:58] <Ponch0> Didn't see it but thank you anyway
[11:59] <KettleCoo> Ben64: Yeah I use auth pam_mysql.so for my virtual users. And pwdfile for one local user. It works if I use only one of the auth methods, but whenever both are activated this error is returned to the ftp client.
[11:59] <KettleCoo> KettleCoo: libpam-ldap is installed as well (many suggest this to be a fix but it seems to make no difference)
[11:59] <fishcooker> i've ubuntu box server with xserver with touch screen.. how to detect the touchscreen accurately?
[12:00] <Ben64> switch to sftp or proftpd? : /
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: anything but ftp
[12:00] <Ben64> !patience | fishcooker
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> fishcooker: udev should pick it up, or you can add rules to make it detect properly if it doesnt
[12:00] <Uragan> ubottu good article...but how cat i call this grub menu during startup?
[12:01] <Uragan> sheet )
[12:01] <Uragan> how can i call  Grub menu on startup ?
[12:01] <Ben64> mash the left shift key
[12:01] <vijaya> I am using openpli-oe-core for settopbox applications, to build an image for target arm I have to use this command, MACHINE=<....> make image, but how to know which machine name I have to  use to build image for arm???
[12:01] <ihre> Uragan: keep holding shift during boot
[12:02] <ihre> just after POST i'd say
[12:03] <Uragan> ihre - it hepls!
[12:07] <evilC> Hi, I have found a bug stopping ubuntu/kubuntu working with multi-monitors - anyone about who can maybe help?
[12:08] <Marlenee> how can i tunnel some app via different ssh server on my ssh server ?
[12:11] <ubuntuxfce1304> hi someone knows how to Make The "OK" in "[ OK ]" green pls ? <- at startup of ubuntu xfce 13.04. it is in lsb-base-logging.sh at the begining of log_end_msg () {  thanks :)
[12:13] <ubuntuxfce1304> if [ "$1" -eq 0 ]; then
[12:13] <ubuntuxfce1304> echo "[ OK ]"
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuxfce1304: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=153703   maybe
[12:14] <ubuntuxfce1304> ok i'm going to take a look thx :)
[12:14] <universal> any libreoffice calc channel ?
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> universal: #libreoffice will cover it, also here if its under ubuntu
[12:15] <KettleCoo> I've installed libpam-ldap but yet I'm missing /lib/security/pam_ldap.so
[12:16] <universal> ActionParsnip: yes its under ubuntu....simple calculation showing error 512. calculation - [{(120*3)+(145*9)}/12]
[12:16] <San1ty> Hey guys, I have a bit of trouble understanding the diff tool. So I executed diff and found out the differences between my current file and another file. I'd like to patch those differences in, how do I do that?
[12:16] <booosss> I'm looking to dual boot ubuntu alongside win8 on my desktop, should i just use the install alongside option or manually create a partition?
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | booosss
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> booosss: but i would reccomend ubuntu as single boot whole hd of course :p
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> universal: why the brackets and braces? aren't paenthesis the only thing needed
[12:18] <Marlenee> how can i tunnel app on my ssh server via another ssh server ?
[12:18] <booosss> I have to have windows installed though :( I need to use it
[12:18] <wizard_A> i am able to ssh into my server, but not scp?
[12:18] <jrib> wizard_A: pastebin
[12:19] <Marlenee> wizard_A : use sftp protocol
[12:19] <lotuspsychje> booosss: there are many alternatives for replacing win these days mate
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> wizard_A: does it affect all users SSHing to the server?
[12:21] <booosss> Yeah, I have to run visual studio though so its just easier i feel
[12:21] <wizard_A> this is the log: http://pastebin.com/ESNVjgq4
[12:22] <wizard_A> ActionParsnip: how do i confirm that?
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> booosss: i think you can run visual studio on playonlinux, but not sure
[12:22] <mika__> Hello again im here now with my ubuntu and yes, i did do sudo gedit, but still if i look the .Xauthority files there is my username not root:root. so what i can do now?
[12:22] <booosss> hmm, ill check that out thanks!
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> wizard_A: log in via SSH as another user, then also try SCP
[12:23] <alsami> hi guys
[12:23] <mika__> so my original problem is that at GUI it ask login passwd and it doesn't work
[12:23] <universal> ActionParsnip: well, two brackets are needed for sure for priority calculation 1st (120*3) & (145*9) and then sum of both results as {(120*3)+(145*9)} divided by 12, now if I use only small brackets as ((120*3)+(145*9))/12 then result is just fine, thing is that is there any bug in libre office which returns error multiple types of brackets are used in a single cell calculation
[12:23] <mika__> and at CLI i can use my passwd without any problem
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> booosss: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=892
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> universal: just installing libreoffice to test
[12:24] <alsami> I have xubuntu and i want to change my ip
[12:24] <templer> hi there I have an old dell inspirion 1300 laptop and it is running ubuntu 9.10, however I am trying to upgrade it to xubuntu 12.04 for better flash updates etc as this laptop is for my mum. I am experienced using and setting up ubuntu but after I try the live CD and all works and as soon as the installer is running for a minute I get a console/black screen with output info where it hangs/crashes... cannot get around this... anyone have advice?
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> mika__: chown your entire home to your user using root recovery mode
[12:24] <PaowZ_> any udev pro over here ?
[12:24] <alsami> i used tor but it changed the firefox ip
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> templer: what GPU does it use?
[12:25] <universal> ActionParsnip: what ? if you are on ubuntu then it comes bundled
[12:25] <mika__> ActionParsnip: ok wait.
[12:25] <alsami> i want to change the desktop ip
[12:25] <cfhowlett> templer, you might consider xubuntu or lubuntu as they are optimized for older / lower tech devices such as yours
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> alsami: your IP is set by your provider, you can use a proxy server to send data through
[12:25] <templer> think its the an integragted intel one so no real dedicated one
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> universal: I removed it, its completely optional
[12:25] <Marlenee> any tools built in ubuntu to do tunneling some app via ssh server on diffrenet ssh server
[12:25] <lotuspsychje> PaowZ_: better ask your specific issue maybe
[12:25] <universal> hmm
[12:25] <templer> it is xubuntu i am trying to install
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> Marlenee: you can use ssh to setup an SSH tunnel
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | templer
[12:26] <templer> cheers ubottu
[12:27] <cfhowlett> templer, better to keep your queries to one channel at a time to reduce confusion
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> universal: as it isnt a key dep of the core OS you can remove LibreOffice with zero adverse affects
[12:27] <PaowZ_> I'm trying to control the way udev populates /dev for a special device. I mean, I have a barcode reader which appears as a HID appliance in /dev. The thing is an event handler is attached to this device and every inputs are seen as keyboard inputs which, of course, I don't want..
[12:27] <mika__> ActionParsnip: do i have to now restart OS? because i did chown -R username:username homedir/
[12:27] <Marlenee> any tutorial to do tunnel on ubuntu
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> mika__: should be good to go
[12:27] <templer> yes np
[12:28] <universal> ActionParsnip: thats good :), so if you have uninstalled libreoffice, which office application do you use ?
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> Marlenee: lots, online
[12:28] <mika__> ActionParsnip: well it didn't let me in :D
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> universal: none, its a system I use for servering, so it doesnt need it
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> universal: not every system with Ubuntu NEEDS libreoffice
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> universal: does it?
[12:28] <Marlenee> ActionParsnip : i talk about tunnel from ssh server to another ssh server
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> Marlenee: that's fine too
[12:30] <universal> ActionParsnip: yea right, but what if thats the only system you use and you come across office docs ?
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> Marlenee: I use:  ssh -L 2222:lan.ip.goes.here:3128<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:30] <ActionParsnip> Marlenee: sets up a port 2222 on localhost which connects to 3128 on my server side, for squid proxying
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> universal: I dont do office productivity on my systems. I browse the web and stream media
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> universal: i do enough office crap at work
[12:31] <universal> office crap, lol gud
[12:32] <PaowZ_> no udev user, then..
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> universal: i just did:    =sum(((123*3)+(145*9))/12)    and got 468.75
[12:32] <universal> ActionParsnip: thats wronng
[12:33] <lotuspsychje> PaowZ_: re-ask once in a while, other times might give you more luck?
[12:33] <mika__> ActionParsnip: well..hmm i try to restart this os now... let's see home should be all mine now but still i can't login. so see ya soon
[12:33] <PaowZ_> lotuspsychje: don't think so.. my need is not really common..
[12:33] <mika__> ActionParsnip: btw. im using now irssi :D i need to learn this well too..
[12:33] <universal> ActionParsnip: answer shuld be 138.xx
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> universal: 163.75
[12:34] <geirha> ActionParsnip, universal: shouldn't this suffice?  =(123*3 + 145*9)/12
[12:34] <universal> ActionParsnip: remove the 3rd parenthesis in the starting and the end
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> oops
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> yeah 138.75
[12:35] <jony_easyrider> buu, hello
[12:35] <tiptopflea> hi
[12:35] <jony_easyrider> buu, do you remember about my problem from yesterday? :)
[12:36] <tiptopflea> no O.o
[12:36] <universal> geirha: yes but the thing is why is {(120*3)+(145*9)}/12 showing error 512 ? ActionParsnip
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> PaowZ_: just joined the #udev channel, maybe thats any use to you?
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> universal: =sum((120*3)+145*9) gives 1665 as expected
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> PaowZ_: oh you are already there nvm :p
[12:38] <tiptopflea> I am Brazilian
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> universal:  =sum(((120*3)+145*9)/12)   is right :)
[12:38] <universal> ActionParsnip: why are you writing sum there ?
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> universal: habit
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> !br | tiptopflea
[12:38] <universal> kk
[12:38] <mika__> ActionParsnip: im back. Yep, doesn't wanna let me in. All files (hidden too) have my username : and group
[12:39] <tiptopflea> #ubuntu-pt
[12:39] <mood> hi all
[12:39] <lotuspsychje> mood: welcome mate, what can we do for you?
[12:40] <mood> I ve aproblem with ubuntu 12.04 with ATI drivers
[12:40] <universal> ActionParsnip: again, whats wrong braces ? coz its simple maths - 1st it will solve parenthesis coz its inside braces and then divide the sum by 12, but its returning error 512 ?
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> mood: can you describe your problems?
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> universal: absolutely, no idea why though. Could be a bug
[12:40] <universal> wrong with braces
[12:40] <mika__> but if there is other gurus here too who could help me. i can see that ActionParsnip has hands full here :)
[12:40] <hogyz> BACKTRACK
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> universal: I'd ask in #libreoffice
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> hogyz: what of it?
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> !bt | hogyz
[12:41] <PaowZ_> lotuspsychje: yep.. and they give folks a chance..
[12:41] <lotuspsychje> !backtrack | hogyz
[12:41] <PaowZ_> they must be hibernating or something.;
[12:41] <mood> my ubuntu converted today to 2D itself .. by searching I found my ATI card not present in Ubuntu
[12:41] <PaowZ_> *they don't give
[12:42] <universal> ActionParsnip: yea please, coz it created a big question mark on my 30 years of mathematics, lol
[12:42] <lotuspsychje> PaowZ_: udev if some different then what the developing guys do i presume?
[12:43] <lotuspsychje> mood: did you check your 'additional drivers' if some other drivers are listed?
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> universal: join the channel, ask there
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> mood: which ATI GPU are you using?
[12:44] <universal> ActionParsnip: lol, I thought you were gonna ask in that channel
[12:44] <mood> yes & nothing listed
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> universal: why, you can do that
[12:44] <PaowZ_> lotuspsychje: sorry, I didn't understand :D this chan is not only for developers if it's your question..
[12:45] <lotuspsychje> PaowZ_: no just tought maybe the dev chat could help you, if it does the same as udev...but here stops my knowledge :p
[12:45] <mood> AMD M82XT 256MB
[12:45] <lotuspsychje> always forget the developing chat name..
[12:45] <universal> ActionParsnip: looks like everyone is busy in that channel or no one is interested there in troubleshooting
[12:46] <mood> lenovo thinkpad T400
[12:46] <jony_easyrider> buu, I solved the issue! :)
[12:46] <lotuspsychje> !yay | jony_easyrider
[12:48] <lotuspsychje> PaowZ_: #ubuntu-devel thats what i meant
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> universal: could report a bug as well
[12:49] <PaowZ_> lotuspsychje: okay.. I glance at it ;)
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> mood: did you upgrade or clean install 12.04?
[12:51] <damel> Hey all, anyone ever use 'msgunfmt' ?  it does not seem to do anything for me
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> !info msgunfmt
[12:51] <mika__> do i have to purge lightdm and ubuntu-desktop away to fix this :D lol.
[12:51] <damel> that is weird..because the command works
[12:52] <Lynx_> Hi all! When installing Ubuntu, can I keep my Dell utility partition with hardware diagnostics tools as a boot option?
[12:52] <damel> or at least I have no error ;)
[12:52] <mood> clean install
[12:52] <subby1> how to create live usb of ububtu in win 7
[12:53] <Dai_1987> subby1: google a program called unetbootin
[12:53] <damel> I even have the man files installed for msgunfmt
[12:53] <damel> very weird
[12:53] <damel> !info poedit
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> mood: can you pastebin lshw -C video
[12:54] <damel> I think it was maybe installed by poedit...or its a function of gettext
[12:56] <fishcooker> thanks Ben64 i will.. sorry my connection is not good here
[13:01] <Cuprum>  subby1_:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[13:01] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:02] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: hello mate
[13:02] <hogyz> why conky not work on my ubuntu 12.10
[13:02] <BluesKaj> hey lotuspsychje, what's up?
[13:02] <hogyz> any body help me?
[13:02] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: all good mate tnx, doing a little support :p
[13:03] <lotuspsychje> hogyz: can you start it from terminal, see what errors it gives you?
[13:03] <hogyz> what command to run conky?
[13:04] <hogyz> ./conky ??
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> hogyz: conky in terminal
[13:05] <subby1_> can i install ubuntu in any other partition other than c: drive where i hv already installed win 7
[13:06] <ubuntuxfce1304> hi :) hi someone knows how to Make The "OK" in "[ OK ]" green pls ? <- at startup of ubuntu xfce 13.04.
[13:06] <Dai_1987> subby1_: how are you installing it?
[13:06] <lotuspsychje> ubuntuxfce1304: are you in setup?
[13:06] <ubuntuxfce1304> no no
[13:07] <ubuntuxfce1304> when all is done ( OS installed )
[13:07] <lotuspsychje> subby1_: when installing ubuntu it will ask you to install next to win7
[13:07] <universal> ActionParsnip: someone in libreoffice suggested a very good reason - brackets, braces and parenthesis or anything else is good on paper but they are not mathematical operators in computer language except simple parenthesis, rest all used for other things! sounds good and genuine reason to me
[13:07] <ubuntuxfce1304> at the startup like on Suse we see at the begining the Green "OK" and on Ubuntu 13.04 it is in WHite :(
[13:08] <bennypr0fane> this is just totally ridiculous. Nautilus isn't letting me delete stuff from my SDcard, there just isn't any option in any of the menus
[13:08] <lotuspsychje> ubuntuxfce1304: you mean the lilo list loading with OK next to it?
[13:08] <universal> opensuse is faster or ubuntu ?
[13:08] <bennypr0fane> context menu, main menu, Del key doesn't work either
[13:08] <ubuntuxfce1304> universal, don't know
[13:09] <subby1_> i hv already installed win 7 on my c : drive which has a total of 68.1 gb but i want to install ubuntu as a dual boot and want to install it on other partiton apart frm c: drive
[13:09] <ubuntuxfce1304> lotuspsychje, yes :)
[13:09] <bennypr0fane> I feel a terrible rant coming up - must - suppress
[13:09] <ubuntuxfce1304> Starting xxxxxx [ OK ] <-- but i would like it in GREEN :)
[13:09] <lotuspsychje> ubuntuxfce1304: not sure if thats possible
[13:09] <ubuntuxfce1304> :'(
[13:10] <ubuntuxfce1304> ouiinnnn :'(
[13:10] <subby1_> Dai_1987: i hv already installed win 7 on my c : drive which has a total of 68.1 gb but i want to install ubuntu as a dual boot and want to install it on other partiton apart frm c: drive
[13:10] <Dai_1987> subby1_: do you have another partition?
[13:10] <ubuntuxfce1304> after consulting somes forums, it works for someone and doesn't work for others
[13:11] <lotuspsychje> bennypr0fane: try a reboot and stick sd card in after login
[13:11] <sameh> hello iam sameh forme egypt cairo i install ubuntu 11 but i have problem in my driver any one can help me plz
[13:11] <subby1_> Dai_1987: yaa i hv 4 more partitions and two of them are 698gb and are completely empty
[13:11] <bennypr0fane> "move to trash can" is greyed out in context menu
[13:11] <lotuspsychje> sameh: ubuntu 11.04?
[13:11] <ubuntuxfce1304> lsb-base-logging.sh & init-functions <- seems to be inside but where, maybe someone had heard something about that.
[13:11] <Dai_1987> subby1_: well then when it asks you where to install, select one of the empty partitions
[13:11] <bennypr0fane> ok, found it
[13:11] <sameh> yes
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> !eol | sameh
[13:12] <bennypr0fane> stupid microsd adapter locked itself when sliding it in
[13:12] <Dai_1987> subby1_: if you're a gamer though you'll need way more than 60GB for Windows
[13:12] <subby1_> Dai_1987: yaa but will i get a dual boot
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> sameh: download an ubuntu version from topic please
[13:12] <repudiate> Can we talk about anything besides Ubuntu?
[13:12] <bennypr0fane> sorry you had to witness this everyone
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> !ot | repudiate
[13:12] <Dai_1987> subby1_: yes, that get set up too, just pay attention tot he installer, it isn't needlessly complicated
[13:13] <bennypr0fane> thanks lotuspsychje
[13:13] <lotuspsychje> bennypr0fane: no sweat!
[13:13] <repudiate> lotuspsychje: It was a joke.
[13:13] <subby1_> Dai_1987: ok thanks......now can u tell me how to create a live usb for the same purpose
[13:13] <Cuprum> subby1_: But listen, 698GB just for Ubuntu may not be such a good idea. You can shrink some space from there and install Ubuntu in it.
[13:13] <sameh> ok i will sir but i befor install ubuntu 13 and have problem in intel card vig
[13:14] <Dai_1987> subby1_: download the iso, download unetbootin, use unetbootin to make a bootable USB from the ISO
[13:14] <lotuspsychje> sameh: try 13.04 it will work for sure
[13:14] <sameh> ok i have problem in intel driver
[13:14] <Dai_1987> subby1_: make sure your pc will boot from usb
[13:14] <sameh> no no  no  no i try it
[13:14] <lotuspsychje> sameh: intel wifi driver?
[13:14] <subby1_> Cuprum: ok i ll keep dat in mind.......
[13:15] <sameh> mack problem in intel driver
[13:15] <subby1_> Dai_1987: ok thanks ......
[13:15] <sameh> no vag
[13:16] <sameh> driver intel vag
[13:16] <Cuprum> Dai_1987: I think it would be better  subby1_  shrinks 698GB partition to a less amount and then install Ubuntu in the smaller partition.... Else 698GB just for Ubuntu?? What do you think?
[13:17] <Dai_1987> Cuprum: totally agree, I normally set linux partitions at 100GB and that's probably overkill
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> sameh: lol you mean vga driver?
[13:17] <sameh> i have min laptop is samsung s100np
[13:17] <sameh> yes
[13:17] <sameh> vga driver
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> sameh: if 13.04 is too high for your intel card, try xubuntu or lubuntu
[13:18] <sameh> so now i install 11 ubuntu
[13:18] <sameh> and i have problem in vga driver
[13:18] <sameh> i hat win 7 and win 8
[13:18] <subby1_> Dai_1987: On second thought .... wat if i want to install ubuntu on my c: drive where i hv already installed win 7 and the total space is 68.1 gb and i hv used 25.9gb
[13:18] <lotuspsychje> sameh: ubuntu 11.04 has been removed, you need to install another version
[13:18] <Dai_1987> subby1_: ubuntu needs to be on its own partition
[13:19] <sameh> opssssss  do u have skybe sir
[13:19] <subby1_> Dai_1987: ya but cant i shrink the partition of win 7 and then install it???
[13:19] <philinux> subby1_: you need to defrag twice and use windows to shrink it's partition to create some space
[13:20] <Dai_1987> windows wont shrink the active partition
[13:20] <subby1_> Dai_1987: ohh kk.....
[13:20] <philinux> It did on this laptop - win 7
[13:20] <philinux> If you dont use win 7 to shrink it you asking for trouble
[13:21] <subby1_> philinux: k...
[13:21] <Dai_1987> philinux: ah, shrink works, grow doesn't
[13:22] <philinux> Dai_1987: indeed
[13:22] <Dai_1987> subby1_: just use some of the free space, not all of it
[13:22] <philinux> never tried grow
[13:22] <Dai_1987> philinux: anything under 250GB is way too small for Windows IMO though, apps are huge these days
[13:22] <subby1_> Dai_1987: u mean from c : drive??
[13:22] <Dai_1987> philinux: you can use gparted or similar to grow C:
[13:23] <Dai_1987> i've done that before, never needed to shrink it though
[13:23] <Dai_1987> subby1_: you can change the size of C: and use the resulting free space but you cant install ubuntu on C: without wiping out windows
[13:24] <philinux> Dai_1987: my win 7 partition is 70 gig. more than enough for me. Only use it for skygo and office
[13:24] <subby1_> Dai_1987: can u tell me how to change the size of c:
[13:24] <Dai_1987> my steam games take up about five times that
[13:24] <Dai_1987> subby1_: you can use windows disk management tool
[13:25] <Dai_1987> subby1_: im not in front of a windows machine so i can't help any more than that
[13:25] <lotuspsychje> subby1_: try the ##windows channel for win support
[13:26] <subby1_> Dai_1987: k.... thanks...
[13:26] <Cuprum> Dai_1987: I also used Win Disk Management but I don't think I had to defrag it before I shrunk it. I may be wrong though....
[13:27] <Cuprum> I did that ages ago..
[13:27] <philinux> subby1_: this is my 250 gig drive setup. http://imagebin.org/273186
[13:27] <Dai_1987> i've never shrunk a partition but i can see why defagging might be required
[13:27] <philinux> Dai_1987: if you dont it will only shrink so far
[13:27] <Dai_1987> makes sense
[13:28] <philinux> there's a minimum it will do cos some files cant bbe moved from "end of partition"
[13:30] <Cuprum> philinux: Yeah I remember the minimum thingy..... better for subby1_ would be to go for the 698GB partition that he has, shrink it and leave the Win partition as it is. Win apps and softwares take huge spaces anyway...
[13:30] <Cuprum> Dai_1987: ^
[13:30] <smodav> nice
[13:31] <Dai_1987> yeah, he seemed reluctant to use that space
[13:31] <philinux> Cuprum: 70 gig enough for me like i said office and browser plus no crapware
[13:32] <Eduard_Munteanu> Is there a cmdline tool that emits a beep or any notification sound through the soundcard?
[13:32] <Eduard_Munteanu> I could use aplay, but maybe there's something better.
[13:33] <xyzwhatever> hi
[13:33] <xyzwhatever> where can I get help for the tcsh shell?
[13:33] <smodav> which is the best download manager?
[13:33] <lotuspsychje> !info tcsh
[13:34] <Cuprum> smodav: I use wget and curl
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> xyzwhatever: you might wanna ask your specific issue on it to channel?
[13:35] <kostkon> Eduard_Munteanu, canberra-gtk-play
[13:35] <smodav> Cuprum: I had issues with wget but hopping it will work since I changed os to pinguy
[13:35] <kostkon> Eduard_Munteanu, give: man canberra-gtk-play  for the manual
[13:35] <Eduard_Munteanu> kostkon: mm, is that a graphical tool? I want to trigger stuff from scripts.
[13:35] <halfak> Hey guys.  Network Manager is constantly asking me for my wireless password.  Sadly top google results didn't help.  (e.g. http://askubuntu.com/questions/64903/network-manager-asks-for-wireless-password-continually)  Ideas?
[13:36] <Pici> Eduard_Munteanu: either the beep package or print a \a via echo
[13:36] <kostkon> Eduard_Munteanu, nope, cmd tool. uses the notification sound system of gnome
[13:36] <Eduard_Munteanu> Pici: beep uses the speaker, I'd like to use the soundcard. And \a requires a console.
[13:36] <kostkon> Eduard_Munteanu, either give it the name of the event you want or the path of your own audio file.
[13:38] <mika__> ActionParsnip: btw i problem solved. i rm .Xauthority and .ICEauth*. now i can use my gui again :)
[13:38] <Eduard_Munteanu> Ouch, one too many deps. This is a server-like install, I guess I should just grab a file from that package.
[13:38] <kostkon> Eduard_Munteanu, then aplay or if the server comes with pulseaudio, which i doubt, then paplay
[13:39] <Eduard_Munteanu> aplay/ALSA is alright.
[13:40] <kostkon> Eduard_Munteanu, aplay is fine
[13:40] <Eduard_Munteanu> Hm, 'sox' looks good.
[13:40] <Eduard_Munteanu> It can generate waveforms.
[13:42] <Daniel_1> hi, I have this strange ipv6 problem on an ubuntu server I'm running. It has a default route but can't send any packages. (ping tells me 'sendmsg: Network is down'). the only way I found to fix this is to manually delete and replace the default route.
[13:44] <Daniel_1> btw. this only happens since I use a network bridge (br0) instead of the real interface (eth0)
[13:44] <Eduard_Munteanu> Daniel_1: sounds like someone is advertising wrong IPv6 routes
[13:45] <Eduard_Munteanu> Daniel_1: is your box accepting RAs?
[13:45] <Daniel_1> Eduard_Munteanu:  the routes are configured using autoconf and are correct. let me show you the route: default via fe80::21d:e5ff:fe47:2845 dev br0  proto kernel  metric 1024  expires 1657sec mtu 1500 advmss 1440 hoplimit 64
[13:45] <Daniel_1> if I delete that route and manually re-add it using the exact values given in that line, it works
[13:47] <xyzwhatever> ok i hope someone can help me or redirect me to a channel
[13:47] <Daniel_1> also I'm in a corporate network and can't use static addresses or routes :/
[13:47] <Eduard_Munteanu> Daniel_1: what about the interfaces in the bridge?
[13:47] <xyzwhatever> in tcsh,    everything between ' '   is not interpreted by the shell.  I have a program that expects an input like this:       filename'[1..100]'
[13:48] <xyzwhatever> now i want to replace a number with a variable:    e.g.     filename'[$a..100]'
[13:48] <Daniel_1> the bridge contains the ethernet interface (i.e. eth0) and vnet{0,1,2}
[13:48] <xyzwhatever> but since the shell doesnt replace the value of the variable with a number because its in  ' '   the program gives me an error
[13:48] <Daniel_1> I connected KVM virtual machines to the bridge to expose them to the network.
[13:48] <Eduard_Munteanu> Daniel_1: I think you may get packets leaving on the bridge and returning on one of the interfaces... what other routes do you have?
[13:49] <Daniel_1> 1 sec. I'll create a pastebin of ip -6 r
[13:49] <Eduard_Munteanu> Daniel_1: did you disable RA accepting for the bridged interfaces? I'm not sure that happens by default.
[13:50] <Eduard_Munteanu> Secondly, if it's a server consider DHCPv6 PD.
[13:50] <Eduard_Munteanu> But that's just as a sidenote.
[13:50] <woon> hello
[13:50] <Eduard_Munteanu> woon: hi
[13:51] <Uragan> hi there!
[13:51] <arctus> hi
[13:51] <Daniel_1> Eduard_Munteanu:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6213835/ is the output of ip -6 r
[13:52] <Daniel_1> don't I need to accept RAs to get routes via autoconf?
[13:53] <Eduard_Munteanu> Daniel_1: yes, but for the bridge interface, not its components
[13:53] <Daniel_1> oh, I see what you mean. I'll check that.
[13:54] <xyzwhatever> did anyone read my question? :'(
[13:55] <tengopreguntas> hi, is there a way to determine where the repositories in a system are located, lets say , i want to find out the path for "/etc/apt/sources.list.d"
[13:56] <tengopreguntas> i remember it reding it in a conf file.
[13:57] <Dwarf> Is there a way to do a headless install of ubuntu? (Not ubuntu server)
[13:58] <impradeepy> is there ney way to install vlc 2.1.0 on 13.04?
[13:58] <xyzwhatever> :'(
[13:58] <Dwarf> impradeepy: apt-cache policy vlc
[13:59] <xyzwhatever> :'(
[13:59] <impradeepy> lemme check
[13:59] <geirha> tengopreguntas: I believe that's hard-coded
[14:00] <loa> hello, i have strange problem. when gdm starts i try to change keyboard layout and it is looks like, that when it show ru layout it actually uses for input en
[14:01] <impradeepy> did not work but thanku it provides better info
[14:01] <loa> and when it shows EN it actually uses for input RU layout
[14:01] <IdleOne> impradeepy: you can use this PPA https://launchpad.net/~videolan/+archive/stable-daily but know that support is only available from the PPA maintainer
[14:01] <impradeepy> ok
[14:01] <Dwarf> That's what it does, impradeepy, it shows which versions are available in your repositories
[14:01] <xyzwhatever> any channel about tcsh ??? :'(
[14:01] <Daniel_1> ok, I get "net.ipv6.conf.eth0.accept_ra = 1" from "sysctl net.ipv6.conf.eth0.accept_ra"
[14:01] <Eduard_Munteanu> Daniel_1: btw, IP forwarding automatically disables RAs. So it might be the case you're disabling it exactly on the br0 and it's getting some other route as default.
[14:02] <impradeepy> yes :)well m  trying to install it through extracting .tar.xz but after ./configure make step is in infinite loops
[14:03] <IdleOne> impradeepy: use the PPA and follow the instructions on the link I gave you. No need to compile.
[14:03] <impradeepy> ok
[14:04] <Christian87> Hello
[14:04] <Christian87> I try to install ubuntu server 12.04 on a new server with 4 HDD in Raid 5 configuration. This is my partition table in the setup: http://i.imgur.com/u3KXjiV.png
[14:05] <Daniel_1> forwarding should be disabled. I get "net.ipv6.conf.all.forwarding = 0"
[14:05] <Christian87> installation runs smoothly but the system dont boot
[14:05] <Daniel_1> same for the individual and the bridge interfaces
[14:05] <Eduard_Munteanu> Daniel_1: alright, try disabling RAs for the bridge component interfaces.
[14:06] <Eduard_Munteanu> Daniel_1: or just disable it globally and enable it on br0 specifically
[14:07] <kaddi> has anybody here installed ubuntu on a samsung ativ book 9? (940x3g). Is it safe to do so or can it brick the machine? How well does linux run on it?
[14:07] <mydog2> ohh.. ubuntu gurus!! anyone here with serious/medium ssh chops for port forwarding!
[14:07] <mydog2> i'm trying to do a test with a gearman process.. it talks to localhost:port X
[14:08] <mydog2> and i want to have the client on a separate machine listen to multiple servers running on different machines.
[14:08] <mydog2> so i need to port forward between the clients/master
[14:09] <afsal_> when I'm try to format my pendrive it shows Error creating file system: helper exited with exit code 1: cannot open /dev/sdb1: Read-only file system
[14:09] <afsal_> how to solve this ^^
[14:10] <impradeepy> ppa verified n then apt-get update but did not install the latest version
[14:10] <Eduard_Munteanu> mydog2: I'd suggest OpenVPN if it's anything serious / permanent.
[14:11] <phanohanover_> #zentyal
[14:11] <afsal_> when I'm try to format my pendrive it shows Error creating file system: helper exited with exit code 1: cannot open /dev/sdb1: Read-only file system
[14:11] <afsal_> how to solve this ^^
[14:11] <impradeepy> where to copy output??
[14:11] <Eduard_Munteanu> afsal_: we've seen that the first time, wait a bit
[14:11] <impradeepy> plz give me a link
[14:12] <impradeepy> i ve to copy and paste the output of terminal
[14:12] <IdleOne> impradeepy: did you run sudo apt-get upgrade?
[14:12] <mydog2> Eduard_Munteanu, - i'm specifically looking for an ssh solution...
[14:13] <mydog2> Eduard_Munteanu, - i'm envisioning an ultimate system with 100s of clients.. i can't be having openvpn remotely managed on all the systems..
[14:13] <impradeepy> yes
[14:13] <IdleOne> !paste
[14:14] <Eduard_Munteanu> mydog2: why do your clients have to use ssh?
[14:14] <Eduard_Munteanu> mydog2: I'm not sure what your servers are, maybe you can explain a bit
[14:14] <Dwarf> Is there a way to do a headless install of ubuntu? (Not ubuntu server)
[14:14] <impradeepy> i did
[14:14] <impradeepy> plz check it
[14:15] <impradeepy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6213914/
[14:15] <Eduard_Munteanu> Dwarf: headless as in a computer without a video card, or just automatic?
[14:15] <Daniel_1> ok, I disabled accept_ra for the individual interfaces. I guess now I need to wait for the server to get a new route on the bridge interface?
[14:15] <mydog2> Eduard_Munteanu,  - they don't..  but i'm going to need bidirectional communication. and i really don't want to have openvpn on each box, and then have to deal with configuring each, and then remotely managing/monitoring the open vpn app
[14:15] <Dwarf> Headless as in I only want to install the base system and I'll install the graphical part myself
[14:16] <mydog2> Eduard_Munteanu,  - portforwarding would be a simple solution
[14:16] <Eduard_Munteanu> Daniel_1: remove the existing one to be safe
[14:16] <Eduard_Munteanu> Dwarf: you can use debootstrap.
[14:16] <Daniel_1> the old route is gone. waiting for the server to get a new one...
[14:16] <Pici> Dwarf: The minimal installer might be of interest to you
[14:16] <Pici> !minimal | Dwarf
[14:17] <foofoobar_> Hi. Does someone have a Dell XPS13? If yes, can you check which the default cpu temp is under normal load?
[14:17] <Eduard_Munteanu> Daniel_1: radvdump can watch for RAs, if you want to look at them.
[14:17] <Dwarf> I'll go with the minimal one, it sounds like the debian netinstall
[14:17] <impradeepy> @idleone did u see it??
[14:18] <Eduard_Munteanu> Dwarf: btw, AFAIK Ubuntu Server isn't much different, except for the kernel, but you can install the stock one.
[14:18] <Dwarf> I'm not afraid to install X myself and whatnot, but the kernel is still a grey area for me
[14:19] <Eduard_Munteanu> Ok. Mind it's just a package, I'm not suggesting compiling your own.
[14:20] <IdleOne> impradeepy: The official VLC PPA currently only contains this latest release for Ubuntu 13.10. The previous release, 2.0.8 is provided for Ubuntu 12.04, 12.10 and 13.04.
[14:20] <impradeepy> i know but no other way?
[14:20] <kennyhunter> hi
[14:20] <IdleOne> impradeepy: Looks like you will need to wait a little longer for 2.1.0 to be added to the PPA
[14:21] <impradeepy> ok thanku
[14:21] <impradeepy> apt-get cache is realy good to know thanks :)
[14:21] <IdleOne> apt-cache
[14:22] <foofoobar_> Is it normal for a notebook to spin up the heater when I plug in the charger?
[14:22] <impradeepy> yes yes
[14:22] <ThRiX_> I just installed all the necessary components to get a PXE server, but after selecting the system to start from the client, is the word "loading".  Using Ubuntu 10.04.4 lts
[14:22] <foofoobar_> *spin up the fan
[14:22] <ThRiX_> I read in a guide:"This does not work for a PXE server running 10.04.1 LTS, nor does it work for clients trying to run 10.04.1 LTS. The client receives an offer from DHCP, gets the kernel, and fails while trying to load.  NOTE: It WILL work if you add required module names in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules (module names for your network adapters, like forcedeth or tulip)"
[14:23] <ThRiX_> and I added in "/ etc / initramfs-tools / modules" module "bnx2". But the result is not changed ...
[14:23] <ThRiX_> you have any advice?
[14:23] <Eduard_Munteanu> foofoobar_: they usually switch to performance profiles when on AC (e.g. maximum CPU frequency etc)
[14:23] <Daniel_1> Eduard_Munteanu:  thx a lot. that seems to solve the issue.
[14:23] <Eduard_Munteanu> Daniel_1: cool
[14:24] <foofoobar_> Eduard_Munteanu, how can I prevent this? I dont want to hear the fan
[14:24] <foofoobar_> I'm under ubuntu 12.04
[14:24] <foofoobar_> I already installed tlp
[14:24] <Eduard_Munteanu> Daniel_1: have a look at DHCPv6 though, especially Prefix Delegation. If there's such a server, they can give you your own prefix, and if it's larger than /64 you can split it further to your VMs.
[14:25] <Eduard_Munteanu> foofoobar_: mm, I'm unsure.
[14:25] <Eduard_Munteanu> Maybe someone else knows.
[14:26] <jhutchins> ThRiX_: You might consider upgrading the server, but I think you also need to run mkinitramfs
[14:26] <techGUY> Hello all. I have an LSI sym8751spe SCSI card, trying to get is working in Ubuntu 10.04. It show up in 'lspci' command, but drives do not show up. Why?
[14:26] <Eduard_Munteanu> mydog2: why port forwarding? Are your servers behind a firewall?
[14:27] <foofoobar> Eduard_Munteanu, I got a complete freeze, sorry.. Another thing I have to look into, but first the power thing
[14:27] <foofoobar> Is there a way to see which power profile is in use? Or to stop this?
[14:27] <foofoobar> I dont want to hear the fan when plugging in the AC
[14:28] <jhutchins> foofoobar: What's probably happening is that your power manager is set to increase the CPU speed when it's on line power instead of battery.  Change that setting in the power manager and it should behave normally.
[14:28] <Eduard_Munteanu> foofoobar: well the problem is it's not just one thing... it's an interaction between upower, ACPI, cpufreq, graphics drivers, and I'm unsure how distros handle this these days.
[14:29] <Eduard_Munteanu> foofoobar: I'd start searching the Ubuntu wiki for power management-related topics.
[14:29] <foofoobar> okay
[14:29] <loa> can't change plymouth theme, what i can check?
[14:29] <Eduard_Munteanu> Or google "AC power performance ubuntu", or something along those lines.
[14:29] <foofoobar> jhutchins, you are talking of a "power manager"? Is this a gui ?
[14:29] <repudiate> Will Ubuntu run significantly slower in VBox as a guest OS?
[14:29] <loa> want to set solar theme
[14:29] <Daniel_1> although the route looks exactly like the one I had before, the new one works. oh well, at least my problem is fixed now.
[14:29] <loa> i used this command sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth
[14:30] <loa> and after it i use sudo update-initramfs -u
[14:30] <Eduard_Munteanu> repudiate: if you're going to use GNOME3, probably.
[14:30] <Eduard_Munteanu> GNOME Shell, more specifically.
[14:30] <subby1> Dan
[14:30] <mydog2> Eduard_Munteanu,  - they are.. and they'll be spread out across the 'net..
[14:31] <repudiate> Eduard_Munteanu: What does GNOME offer exactly?
[14:31] <Eduard_Munteanu> mydog2: normally you should just give them public IPs. Otherwise, yeah, you can do port forwarding, sure. I'm not sure what you're asking though?
[14:31] <ThRiX_> Thanks jhutchins
[14:32] <SuperLag> I have a desktop that I've made headless for the time being, as I'm using another machine as my primary. How do I make sure that processes that would normally have started when logging into the UI still start, even though I'm not logging in that way?
[14:32] <mydog2> Eduard_Munteanu,  - thanks.. i'll figure it out
[14:32] <Eduard_Munteanu> repudiate: the desktop environment.
[14:33] <repudiate> Eduard_Munteanu: What does it offer that Unity doesn't?
[14:33] <repudiate> Eduard_Munteanu: What does it offer that KDE doesn't?
[14:33] <subby1> I want to create a dual boot with ubuntu on my pc and I already have win 7 .....my disc space in c: is 68.1 gb and I hv used 29 gb
[14:33] <Eduard_Munteanu> SuperLag: configure your login manager to autologin, and perhaps configure xorg to use the 'dummy' driver if you don't have a video card at all.
[14:34] <Eduard_Munteanu> repudiate: oops, I forgot about Unity. I'm just saying everything involving 3D effects will likely be slow (unless you do VGA passthrough).
[14:35] <gaussblurinc> hello! how about google drive on linux?
[14:35] <Eduard_Munteanu> gaussblurinc: hi... what about it?
[14:35] <repudiate> Eduard_Munteanu: What's a VGA passthrough exactly?
[14:35] <Eduard_Munteanu> You should just ask directly.
[14:35] <bjoswald> There is no native client
[14:36] <bjoswald> If that's what you're asking
[14:37] <hitsujiTMO> mydog2: are you on about having all clients ssh to a single server which forwards the connection to their server?
[14:37] <Eduard_Munteanu> repudiate: if your hardware supports Intel VT-d / AMD IOMMU, you can give your guest OS full control over the video card, so it won't be using a slow, emulated one.
[14:37] <gaussblurinc> bjoswald: yes, native client, uh :\
[14:38] <Eduard_Munteanu> gaussblurinc: I think there might be a FUSE driver for it
[14:38] <loa> can you help me with plymouth? tried few manuals but can't changed theme
[14:38] <repudiate> Eduard_Munteanu: How do I do that?
[14:38] <loa> it is always shows Xubuntu 13.10
[14:38] <loa> but i have Ubuntu 13.10 =/
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> !13.10 | loa
[14:39] <loa> it is ok.
[14:39] <Eduard_Munteanu> repudiate: google for {VGA,PCI} passthrough and {KVM,Virtualbox}.
[14:39] <loa> but i think solution is plymouth, not ubuntu version.
[14:40] <Eduard_Munteanu> repudiate: or Xen, IIRC that supports it too
[14:40] <gdos> for some reason my system wide language has been changed from en_US to en_UK and now i get funny little characters whenever i enter (or other) xfce-terminal - tried setxkbmap en and get error loading new keyboard description; what's happening is that every other char is a little box with ones and zeros. (...especially when displaying colors.)
[14:41] <gordonjcp> gdos: that's standard
[14:41] <gdos> the little box with ones and zeros?
[14:41] <gordonjcp> gdos: you've hung about wwih no functional government, so we're taking the US back under UK government control
[14:41] <impradeepy> please tell me how to install jupiter on 13.04?
[14:42] <Eduard_Munteanu> Hehe.
[14:42] <gdos> you can have my government i just want my fonts.
[14:42] <foofoobar> Eduard_Munteanu, the strange thing is .. when I plug in the charger, the cpu temp does not increase, but a few seconds later the fan starts to spin
[14:42] <foofoobar> and the cpu temp still as before
[14:43] <Eduard_Munteanu> foofoobar: possibly, if it's still mostly idle.
[14:45] <lnxslck> new ubuntu 13.10 brings support for apple wireless keyboard battery indicator, does anyone know the name of tha package that does this?
[14:46] <hitsujiTMO> foofoobar: have you looked for options in the bios to control the fan?
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> lnxslck: maybe the guys in #ubuntu+1 might know
[14:47] <Eduard_Munteanu> hitsujiTMO: more likely it's a cpufreq thing
[14:47] <Eduard_Munteanu> Actually a power management thing as a whole.
[14:47] <hitsujiTMO> Eduard_Munteanu: yes you are right, but some older laptops do have fan controls in the bios
[14:48] <Eduard_Munteanu> The BIOS usually just provides ACPI states and frequency/voltage tables.
[14:48] <Eduard_Munteanu> Hm.
[14:50] <foofoobar> hitsujiTMO, yes, there are no options :/
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> impradeepy: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/jupiter-light-weight-power-and-hardware-control-applet.html
[14:51] <ArnoMoonen> Hi, I'm looking for an easy tool that I can run in a live environment to create a live USB thumb drive. Any suggestions?
[14:51] <impradeepy> not working
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> ArnoMoonen: ubuntu livedvd has usb startup disk creator
[14:52] <impradeepy> but thanku
[14:52] <ArnoMoonen> Something like this: https://launchpad.net/liveusb - but I can't install this in my install using the PPA repo (no recent version available)
[14:52] <impradeepy> i found other working ppa
[14:52] <franz__> hi i need help, i create live usb, the machine forze I forced shutdown by pressing Power button, now usb is only read
[14:52] <franz__> how do I fix this_
[14:53] <foofoobar> Eduard_Munteanu, I cant find any good links on this
[14:53] <ArnoMoonen> lotuspsychje thanks.. does that work if the source disc is the disc that the live environment is running from?
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> ArnoMoonen: you have to download a new iso, with the livedvd and make startup disk to your usb stick
[14:54] <franz__> hi i need help, i create live usb, the machine froze I forced shutdown by pressing Power button, now usb is only read
[14:55] <ArnoMoonen> lotuspsychje That doesn't work in my use case. We've created a live DVD that students can use during a workshop, but we want to make it easy to clone them to a USB drive so that they can work with the software at home
[14:55] <b0x> erm
[14:55] <ArnoMoonen> lotuspsychje they usually don't have an internet connection and including an iso of the live environment on the live environment isn't really workable
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> ArnoMoonen: so your students will be getting the livedvd to their homes?
[14:58] <hitsujiTMO> ArnoMoonen: from what I remember http://www.linuxliveusb.com/ allows you to create an image from live iso to USB that also gives you the option for persistent storage
[14:58] <ArnoMoonen> lotuspsychje not really. they will use a custom live image (DVD or USB) during the workshop and we'll be able to 'clone' this DVD/USB to their own USB thumb drive
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> ArnoMoonen: cant you download the iso on the workshop computer so they can make one?
[15:00] <lotuspsychje> ArnoMoonen: or try what hitsujiTMO suggested you
[15:00] <ArnoMoonen> Unfortunately we can not. Most of the time we don't even have access to the internet on those computers (the workshop is given across multiple institutes)
[15:01] <sasuke> Hi all, Can anyone tell me how to install gnome 3.10 in ubuntu 12.04. Is it possible to install gnome 3.10
[15:01] <ArnoMoonen> hitsujiTMO Afaik LiLi can't run on Ubuntu?
[15:01] <sidesh> can i know what is official name of ubuntu 12.04
[15:01] <sasuke> sidesh, its precise
[15:02] <lotuspsychje> !12.04 | sidesh
[15:02] <gdos> 13.10 comes out at the end of the month?
[15:02] <hitsujiTMO> ArnoMoonen: hmm, not sure... but i'm sure theres an linux alternative
[15:02] <lotuspsychje> !13.10 | gdos
[15:02] <lnxslck> gdos, on the 17
[15:02] <gdos> got it.
[15:02] <hitsujiTMO> ArnoMoonen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[15:02] <ArnoMoonen> hitsujiTMO Well, there was https://launchpad.net/liveusb but they don't have any recent versions
[15:03] <sasuke> is it possible to install gnome 3.10 in ubuntu 12.04
[15:03] <techGUY> Hello all. I have an LSI sym8751spe SCSI card, trying to get is working in Ubuntu 10.04. The card shows up in 'lspci' command, but drives do not show up anywhere I looked. Why?
[15:03] <gdos> so how do i remove the little boxes of ones and zeros when displaying colors in xfce-terminal?
[15:04] <ArnoMoonen> I'll just see if I can somehow rebuild liveusb, even though I'm not familiar with that at all
[15:05] <hitsujiTMO> gdos: sounds like the font used does not have the chars needed... try changing the font
[15:05] <lotuspsychje> ArnoMoonen: how about making 1 liveUSB stick with ubuntu, and drag n drop the iso image togheter on it
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> techGUY: tried 12.04?
[15:06] <lotuspsychje> ArnoMoonen: not sure if it wont affect the install process
[15:06] <gdos> hitsujiTMO: recommend a good font viewer?
[15:07] <ArnoMoonen> lotuspsychje: that's a possible workaround. But that would almost double the size needed and it's cumbersome (we're planning updates)
[15:07] <semitones> What's that command that ActionParsnip knows that fixes mouse problems upon resume by killing the mouse and starting it again?
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> semitones: sudo modprobe -r psmouse; sleep 2; sudo modprobe psmouse
[15:07] <techGUY> @ActionParsnip: No I have not. Will give it a try. Thanks
[15:08] <semitones> ActionParsnip, thanks, it doesn't always happen, but when it does, now I'll be prepared.
[15:08] <hitsujiTMO> gdos: not sure what you mean ...
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> semitones: could script it
[15:08] <semitones> thanks what I think I'll do. mousefix.sh
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> semitones: and even have the OS run it autmatically when you resume :)
[15:08] <lotuspsychje> ArnoMoonen: wanna tell me more about your project in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[15:10] <gdos> hitsujiTMO: if courier new or courier 10 pitch is missing chars to display colors (thats only when this happens) is there a viewer i can use to view all the fonts on my system?
[15:11] <semitones> ActionParsnip, right now, it only messes up about 1 in 20 times I resume from sleep. I'm not sure what's special about that 1/20th time.
[15:15] <ircdeng> nick
[15:16] <hitsujiTMO> gdos: ahh, soory, i missed the fact that it happened on colors specifically. can you provide a screen shot?
[15:17] <gdos> hisujiTMO: http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-10092013-091312am.php
[15:18] <hitsujiTMO> ok, that indeed does look like an invalid character
[15:21] <hitsujiTMO> it may be caused by, as I originally suggested; missing characters in the font, but, more likely given that it's happening in the colours it could be an invalid terminal promt config
[15:26] <gdos> hitsujiTMO: in .bashrc ?
[15:26] <geirha> gdos: what does echo "$TERM" say?
[15:26] <hitsujiTMO> gdos: look at $PS1
[15:27] <geirha> I doubt aptsh cares about bash's prompt.
[15:27] <hitsujiTMO> geirha: sorry your right didnt realise that aptsh was a shell
[15:29] <pandaroot> why is that as mentioned in the debmirror wiki when i am doing sudo chmod -R 571 /home/UbuntuMirror i can't access the mirror but when i change the permissions to 777 it works
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> gdos: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[15:29] <apatters> Is there any reason to use the virtual terminals on ctrl+alt+f1-6, aside from getting X back up if it's not running?
[15:29] <ircdeng> what is the valid email for register
[15:29] <hitsujiTMO> gdos: if its not that and not the font, then they're may be a mismatch between char encodings somewhere
[15:29] <ircdeng> could someone help me ?
[15:30] <geirha> pandaroot: Because you're not the owner of that dir, nor are you a member of the group that owns the dir. on a side note, never set 777 on a file or directory
[15:31] <Dai_1987> ircdeng: valid email for registering what?
[15:31] <s1536273> !rules
[15:31] <ubuntuxfce1304> hi :) if anyone have ideas to put the [ OK ] at the beginning of startup in GREEN Colour like in Suse.
[15:31] <geirha> apatters: Very useful when you don't have X installed
[15:32] <ircdeng> Dai_1987: register the nickname
[15:32] <Dai_1987> ircdeng: it's supposed to be your email address, and then NickServ emails you instructions
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuxfce1304: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-50054.html
[15:32] <hitsujiTMO> ircdeng: questions about registering a nick on freenode would be better handled in #freenode
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuxfce1304: seems to be in  /lib/lsb/init-functions
[15:33] <Dai_1987> ircdeng: I learned from http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[15:33] <pandaroot> geirha, so should i add myself to that group   ? what permission should i set ?
[15:34] <ircdeng> Dai_1987 i've tried two email address ,but the system tell me this :*******is not a valid email address.
[15:34] <Dai_1987> ircdeng: and you're typing /msg NickServ REGISTER <password><EMAIL_ADDRESS>?
[15:34] <apatters> geirha: Of course :) just wondering if there are any reasons that anyone prefers to use a vt instead of X even when they do have X
[15:34] <geirha> pandaroot: Depends on what type of access you want for the directory, but if you add your user to the group, then 770  will give the owner and the members of the group that owns it, full access, while other users will have no access
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuxfce1304: make a backup copy of the file before editting
[15:35] <pandaroot> geirha, i found out one mistake, instead of putting the ubuntu mirror under /home/ubuntu i have kept it inside /home/user/ubuntu.
[15:36] <geirha> pandaroot: odd place for it
[15:36] <pandaroot> geirha, moving back the contents to /home/ubuntu
[15:38] <geirha> pandaroot: Also, don't do chmod -R 770; you don't want to change the execute bits for regular files
[15:39] <geirha> though I recon it's too late for that
[15:39] <ubuntuxfce1304> ActionParsnip, already done
[15:40] <ircdeng> Dai_1987 yeah ,i am typing  like that.
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuxfce1304: not something I've done, is it really worth the effort?
[15:41] <Dai_1987> ircdeng: then i have no idea why it wont work for you
[15:41] <impradeepy> please help me to configure powertop
[15:41] <buhman> please help me to configure impradeepy
[15:41] <pandaroot> geirha, execute bits ? what does that mean ?
[15:42] <impradeepy> i mean tunables
[15:43] <ubuntuxfce1304> lsb-base-logging.sh must be modify and i have already made a copy of it, then modify it but doesn't work, thanks anyway. if someone have heard something about the " [ OK ] " to put it in Green colour highlight me thx :)
[15:43] <ircdeng> Dai_1987 thank u
[15:43] <buhman> pandaroot: they're actually flags in st_mode; man 2 stat
[15:43] <impradeepy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6214274/
[15:43] <geirha> pandaroot: determines if the file is executable or not. See http://mywiki.wooledge.org/Permissions to learn how permissions work on unix and unix-like systems (like Ubuntu).
[15:44] <pandaroot> ok
[15:45] <buhman> pandaroot: S_IX{USR,GRP,OTH} are the names of said flags/'bits'
[15:45] <impradeepy> @buhman please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/6214274/
[15:45] <buhman> impradeepy: I disagree
[15:45] <pandaroot> geirha, that's a good link
[15:45] <pandaroot> buhman, ok
[15:45] <impradeepy> why?
[15:46] <buhman> not interested
[15:46] <buhman> !bail
[15:46] <impradeepy> ok
[15:46] <bazhang> buhman, thats not helpful
[15:46] <apatters> sudo shutdown -P now
[15:49] <xarac__> did any one have installed openerp from source code in ubuntu?
[15:50] <melhisedek> should performance of the Nvidia proprietary and unofficial drivers (ex g xorg-edgers PPA) be roughly the same?
[15:52] <skinux> I'm curious, is Ubuntu for Android a complete OS (ROM), a complex app, or what?
[15:52] <bazhang> skinux, #ubuntu-touch for that
[15:55] <Trudko> hi guys i order new VPS and they gave me only one user to log in root. I gues sI should create new user and maybe give him root rights?
[15:56] <dariusc93> Trudko: you may want to create new user away from  root for security purposes
[15:56] <Trudko> what do you mean by away? btw if I dont give him root rights i will just have to use  sudo everytime more or less i want to do something  right?
[15:57] <ddssc> my ubuntu completely died on me. got some kernel bug(which i didn't write down). can't run anything in recovery mode all I get is a blank screen. what to do? WHAT TO DO?!
[15:57] <ddssc> ubuntu 12.0 something
[15:58] <ddssc> it just died for no reason whatsoever, I didn't run anything special.
[15:58] <ddssc> and now I can't boot into anything..
[15:58] <ArnoMoonen> I figured I could just force the installation of LiveUSB, but that does not seem to work (it requires python2.5-gtk2, but I have a newer version, so dpkg won't install that)
[15:58] <ddssc> not even console
[15:59] <Ari-Yang> ddssc: maybe it was a kernel panic....
[15:59] <ddssc> Ari-Yang, it stated "kernel bug" in the bsod
[15:59] <ddssc> im using win now..
[15:59] <ArnoMoonen> So.. any other suggestions on how to create a live USB stick from a running live environment?
[16:00] <Ari-Yang> ddssc: there is no such thing as BSOD on ubuntu afaik.... ddssc so you installed windows on the computer where ubuntu crashed on?
[16:00] <ddssc> Ari-Yang,yes there is a bsod. BLACK screen of death. :p I have dual boot
[16:01] <Ari-Yang> ddssc: ah.... well I'm not sure, I suggest doing research while you wait for somebody to get to you
[16:01] <ddssc> Ari-Yang, looked somewhat like this : http://www.bhalash.com/archives/13544792823
[16:01] <ddssc> not sure if it was a disk error, I rebooted immediately
[16:01] <ddssc> :/
[16:02] <dariusc93> ddssc: put in a livecd in and mount your partition and check the logs and see what happen
[16:04] <daivyk> hi, I have installed eclipse + tomcat7 without a problem, but I am trying to create a Server from eclipse, I already have the Server Runtime set but when I select Tomcat 7.0 it seems that eclipse can't find the Runtime configure with Tomcat7, anyone know why? maybe some file permission? (i checked everything is fine)
[16:04] <ddssc> daivyk, eclipse is aids. use IDEA if you must code java
[16:05] <abradley> I have this in smb.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6214345/  but I'm getting this error when I try to write to the share from windows 7: http://i.imgur.com/KNN3yOv.png
[16:05] <daivyk> ddssc: kkkk
[16:05] <skinux> Is Unity more popular than regular Gnome?
[16:08] <Ari-Yang> skinux: not sure... why?
[16:08] <XURL> skinux: judging by what
[16:15] <Trudko> guys if i have error checking build system type... configure: error: cannot guess build type; you must specify one do i need to instal l  build-essential checkinstall ?
[16:15] <hitsujiTMO> skinux: considering unity is ubuntu specific, where gnome is used across a wide variety of distros then I'd say gnome would be more popular... but it really does depend on what you mean exactly by popular... its a very subjective
[16:16] <hitsujiTMO> question
[16:18] <BluesKaj> Trudko, yes you need build-essential if your'e compiling from source
[16:24] <dell> hey
[16:24] <jmgk> hi dell
[16:26] <dell> yo
[16:27] <x0077BE> Oi oi. I have a question.
[16:27] <x0077BE> I have just built a program (hostapd) from source, and it built it in whatever directory it was in.
[16:28] <x0077BE> How do I like... install it?
[16:28] <x0077BE> Because when I install it from apt-get, it puts it in various places.
[16:28] <x0077BE> /sbin/, /etc/, etc.
[16:28] <x0077BE> But when I build it it's just sitting there in the hostapd file.
[16:29] <Tylertwo> x0077BE, were you having an issue with it being in various places?
[16:29] <loa> x0077BE, you can do make install, but it is not ubuntu way
[16:29] <x0077BE> No, but I had to use a custom config.
[16:29] <buhman> x0077BE: generally build systems will have an 'install' target or similar, but realize if you do this directly, the copied files will not be tracked by your package manager
[16:29] <x0077BE> So I can't use the binary from the repository.
[16:30] <buhman> x0077BE: and modifying the source package wasn't an option why?
[16:30] <Godmy> hello, let's suppose I have a some Ubuntu 5 (Dapper Drake) on one computer, not functioning CD Rom (nor any CDRom elsewhere I can use), being unable to use the USB slot to boot (already tried creating livecd to USB - which works elsewhere but not on that computer) - but I can load the USB flash stick when I'm in the system: can I create there a "live partition"?
[16:30] <x0077BE> I'm not sure what that means.
[16:30] <x0077BE> buhman: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Documentation/hostapd
[16:30] <x0077BE> I followed the instructions there.
[16:30] <x0077BE> It worked fine.
[16:30] <buhman> and?
[16:30] <buhman> why do I care?
[16:31] <Godmy> (since I can access the "livecd" only via some preinstalled OS... I could of course try to connect there some hdd with liveCD... but that's too much work)
[16:31] <x0077BE> I just don't quite get what you mean by "modifying the source package"
[16:31] <x0077BE> I can build my own config and import it into the package manager?
[16:31] <Godmy> (and thank you in advance :) )
[16:32] <buhman> Godmy: if you had space available on your target disk, you could simply chroot your installation media and continue with the installation that way
[16:32] <buhman> x0077BE: I suggest you read up on how ubuntu packaging works.
[16:32] <Godmy> hm, I have to learn more about the procedure :)
[16:33] <buhman> Godmy: you'll loop mount said installation media, mount api filesystems, then chroot(1)
[16:33] <wylde> !checkinstall | x0077BE
[16:34] <x0077BE> ubottu, Thanks.
[16:34] <dell> hey
[16:34] <x0077BE> Oh. Then thanks wylde
[16:34] <wylde> np
[16:35] <Coleman> sup
[16:35] <dell> hello coleman
[16:35] <dell> my name is dell
[16:35] <Coleman> i love you dell help me shoot my source code into your network port
[16:36] <dell> ;O
[16:42] <foofoobar> How to install latex without the gui ?
[16:43] <Myrtti> foofoobar: with apt-get?
[16:43] <andromeduck> recently lost about half of my home dir due to a disk issue, recovered almost everything except I keep getting this when I try to use apt-get http://pastebin.com/M4EfQ8W3
[16:43] <andromeduck> foobArrr, install texlive?
[16:45] <foofoobar> Myrtti, I meant without the tex gui
[16:46] <cariveri> Hi. can someone tell me how to set the networkmanagers values from the terminal? upping the interface leads to reload ips from those config values instead of ifconfiged ones.
[16:46] <foofoobar> andromeduck, okay, I thought this already installs the gui
[16:46] <foofoobar> thanks
[16:46] <Myrtti> oh yeah, you can have a tex gui, totally forgot that such thing exists
[16:48] <raub> Do you know how you can force a usb drive to be always mounted in a certain mountpoint using its uuid? Is there a way to always associate another usb device -- say a serial or wireless one -- with a /dev/something?
[16:48] <andromeduck> cariveri, check out the ip command http://linux.die.net/man/8/ip
[16:51] <Rallias> Is there an easy way to configure my /etc/network/interfaces file from a bash script?
[16:56] <andromeduck> nvm I just solved it
[16:57] <veryhappy> hi guys where can I use AES in my system
[16:58] <ikonia> veryhappy: what do you mean, "where can you use it" ?
[16:59] <veryhappy> for which purposes in Ubuntu can I use AES?
[16:59] <ikonia> it's an encyption standard, so you use it for encyption
[16:59] <SolarisBoy> AES is generally used in encryption
[16:59] <veryhappy> that's what I already know fortunately
[16:59] <SolarisBoy> so what do you mean?
[17:00] <ikonia> then what are you asking ?
[17:00] <veryhappy> I want to know what I can use this encryption for.
[17:01] <ikonia> veryhappy: encypting things....anything you want
[17:01] <SolarisBoy> to protect sensitive data
[17:01] <SolarisBoy> yea
[17:02] <raub> veryhappy: find what you are trying to encrypt -- ldap, kerberos, ssh, pgp, etc -- and see if it supports that
[17:03] <raub> My rule of thumb is to use the strongest encryption both parties can support
[17:03] <hitsujiTMO> veryhappy: you're probably using AES right now if you're using wifi ... Most modern wifi routers default to AES encryption
[17:03] <ikonia> my rule of thumb is...if you don't know what it is/how to use it/what to encrypt, stop thinking about it
[17:04] <dsb> why does the kernel try to IP-Config during boot on an Ubuntu machine, even if there is no network configuration, or even network connected?  My system is looping with "IP-Config: ethX hardware address xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx mtu 1500 DHCP RARP" endlessly during boot.
[17:04] <veryhappy> OK so I can use it to encrypt my emails? keyword NSA? or files/directories/partitions/hard disks/perhaps also CD ROMs/DVDs?
[17:04] <SolarisBoy> openssl/openssh both support AES - we use it more often than we think
[17:04] <ikonia> not this NSA stuff again
[17:05] <ikonia> veryhappy: if the encyption tool you are using supports it - you can use it to encypt anything, keep in mind it needs to be unencypted also
[17:05] <Trudko> guys i have warning when istalling passanger(ruby gem) WARNING: Apache doesn't seem to be compiled with the 'prefork', 'worker' or 'event' MPM  We recommend you to abort this installer and to recompile Apache with either the 'prefork' or the 'worker' MPM. How to recompile it I have never done it
[17:06] <raub> dsb: using network manager?
[17:06] <dsb> No
[17:06] <dsb> This is a server.
[17:06] <ikonia> Trudko: you don't need to recompile it, there is an apache prefork package
[17:06] <dsb> And it's right after the NIC driver is loaded.
[17:06] <SolarisBoy> Trudko: just install the prefork version
[17:06] <raub> Trudko: I think there are diff apache packages for that
[17:06] <veryhappy> ikonia like you I'd like not to think about this NSA stuff again the NSA makes us think about privacy
[17:06] <Trudko> so should I unstill existing apache and istall prefork one?!
[17:06] <ikonia> it really doesn't
[17:06] <dsb> We had a power outage yesterday, and this server is doing this now.
[17:07] <SolarisBoy> Trudko: sure
[17:07] <SolarisBoy> Trudko: back up your configs first.
[17:07] <dsb> I just don't understand why the kernel is doing anything with the NIC configuration at this point.  It's not ifup/ifdown stuff.  I would understand if it was doing a network boot, but it's not.
[17:07] <Trudko> SolarisBoy: apache configs?
[17:08] <SolarisBoy> Trudko: yes
[17:08] <veryhappy> thank you guys
[17:08] <veryhappy> take care
[17:09] <hitsujiTMO> Trudko: I'd also suggest looking into using nginx with passenger instead of apache ... nginx is much more lightweight than apache
[17:09] <Trudko> hitsujiTMO: thx for the tip, but I am istalling into production and I dont have experience with nginx so I dont want to switch on last moment
[17:10] <SolarisBoy> good call..
[17:11] <raub> dsb: I am curious myself. I always thought the kernel would only care about whether there is a network device or not. And then pass that to the network scripts which should then read /etc/network/interfaces
[17:11] <raub> Scary if you ask me
[17:12] <dsb> raub: that was my understanding, too.
[17:12] <dsb> I've booted into a live usb stick OK, and see the filesystems w/o problem.
[17:13] <njsg> dsb: I think there are zeroconfiguration mechanisms for some networks. here at least I think ipv6 gets configured if I simply bring the device up
[17:13] <gdos> geirha: echo $TERM returns xterm
[17:13] <gdos> hitsujiTMO: echo $PS1 returns: \[\e]0;\u@\h: \w\a\]${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\[\033[01;32m\]\u@\h\[\033[00m\]:\[\033[01;34m\]\w\[\033[00m\]\$
[17:13] <raub> dsb: I do know systemd might do some stuff like that. But then again I like to blame systemd for all that is wrong in the universe
[17:14] <dsb> raub: well, isn't it?
[17:14] <ikonia> gdos: how did you launch that
[17:14] <ikonia> gdos: as TERM should not be "xterm" unless it really is an xterm
[17:14] <gdos> ActionParsnip: cat /etc/issue returns: Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[17:14] <spm-Draget> I am instlaling icinga and want to monitor other ubuntu linux hosts. This howto http://www.howtoforge.com/server-monitoring-with-icinga-on-ubuntu-11.10-p3 says I should use nrpe and install the package 'nagios-nrpe-plugin'. But this packages pulls nagios?!
[17:14] <ESPGuillermo> If I boot Ubuntu from USB, will it install to my hard drive or on to my actual USB?
[17:14] <spm-Draget> Can someone clarify how to monitor other linux hosts with icinga?
[17:14] <ikonia> spm-Draget: using a howtoforge link = bad, using a howtoforge link for an old release = very bad
[17:15] <gdos> ikonia: through xfce-terminal and again through guake.
[17:15] <raub> ESPGuillermo: if you are using the normal ubuntu install image, it should ask you wehre you want to put it
[17:15] <spm-Draget> ikonia: True.
[17:15] <Pici> spm-Draget: don't install recommends when you install nagios-nrpe-plugin.
[17:15] <Pici> spm-Draget: i.e.: sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends nagios-nrpe-plugin.
[17:15] <ESPGuillermo> raub yeah it does, only option is C:\ drive which I don't have enough storage for, say 18gb, Ubuntu. So I'm considering an external hard drive to install ubuntu
[17:16] <spm-Draget> Pici: Thanks
[17:17] <raub> ESPGuillermo: should work; put external drive in one usb port, the boot disk in the other and off you go. FYI, I have run ubuntu in 5GB disks before
[17:17] <raub> Just depends on what you need
[17:23] <fellayaboy> will a sudo apt-get upgrade continue to run even if i close the terminal???
[17:23] <tgm4883> fellayaboy, no
[17:23] <ESPGuillermo> Would you say Ubuntu > Windows for performance?
[17:23] <MonkeyDust>  fellayaboy if you want that, use screen
[17:23] <ESPGuillermo> I'd switch fully to Ubuntu but a lot of the programs I use aren't compatibly
[17:23] <fellayaboy> damn. what do i do now
[17:23] <tgm4883> ESPGuillermo, depends
[17:23] <tgm4883> fellayaboy, was it still downloading, or was it installing?
[17:24] <fellayaboy> i mistakely closed the terminal during that upgrade...
[17:24] <fellayaboy> i think it was installing
[17:24] <tgm4883> hmm
[17:24] <fellayaboy> i tried to run apt-get upgrade but it says its locked by dkpg
[17:24] <MonkeyDust> fellayaboy  type screen, a new terminal layer opens... run apt-get... you can now close the terminal and even logout, it will continue
[17:24] <JediMaster> has anyone got the ubuntu repo version of cinnamon interface working on Saucy? When I try I get errors saying dbus javascript is missing and the UI doesn't load
[17:24] <fellayaboy> i know about screen
[17:25] <JediMaster> fellayaboy,  doing it as sudo or root?
[17:25] <fellayaboy> sudo
[17:25] <MonkeyDust> JediMaster  saucy support in #ubuntu+1
[17:25] <bodhi64> hello im having  troubles with right clicking. can't seem to bring up the traditional copy paste menu from right clicking
[17:25] <fellayaboy> dpkg process is still running though
[17:25] <JediMaster> MonkeyDust, ah yes, I'm a few days early here =)
[17:25] <fellayaboy> should i kill the process and try again?
[17:25] <MonkeyDust> bodhi64  in bodhi linux? if yes: it's not supported here
[17:26] <MonkeyDust> JediMaster  using the release candidate? :)
[17:26] <ESPGuillermo> Which is the best Linux OS? And what are the reasons for having many different ones?
[17:26] <bodhi64> its dead in there. thought maybe its ubuntu based and maybe someone knows the package that maybe bodhi is missing for this function
[17:26] <Yowl> Something in the ~ directory, means it's in home, right?
[17:26] <LiENUS> how do i go about converting .amr to mp3 in ubuntu?
[17:27] <MonkeyDust> LiENUS  winFF is a nice ffmpeg GUI
[17:27] <LiENUS> .wav would work but i need to email a couple phone conversations :/
[17:27] <mydog2> hey guys.. anyone here have knowledge of the old dlink routers
[17:27] <hitsujiTMO> ESPGuillermo: best linux OS is Linux
[17:27] <tgm4883> Yowl, yes, ~/ is a shortcut to your home directory
[17:27] <mydog2> i'm trying to use on as a hub to allow a couple of dells to talk on the same subnet..
[17:28] <bodhi64> LiENUS u can use audacity
[17:28] <ESPGuillermo> hitsujiTMO huh? I thought there was like loads of different linux distributions
[17:28] <hitsujiTMO> ESPGuillermo: best linux 'distro' tho is what ever you feel most comfortable with
[17:28] <LiENUS> MonkeyDust, isnt ffmpeg for movies or does it do audio only?
[17:28] <mydog2> i disabled the dhcp, set the ip of the device to be in the same sub <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:28] <MonkeyDust> LiENUS  both
[17:28] <LiENUS> bodhi64, that sounds like it might work better i forgot about audacity
[17:28] <JediMaster> MonkeyDust, yes, various issues, but pretty much every time I apt-get upgrade they're fixed, apart from this cinnamon one which makes it unusable =(
[17:28] <mydog2> turned off all the filters i could find.
[17:29] <ESPGuillermo> Ubuntu seems the most popular, so think I'm going to go with that
[17:29] <mydog2> plugged in the main eth and the two dells.. and i can only see one of the dells..
[17:29] <bodhi64> ESPGuillermo. you can also go with ubuntu based distros
[17:29] <mydog2> both machines work with the correct dhcp/eth addresses if i directly connect via the main eth
[17:30] <ESPGuillermo> What is the Ubuntu speed in comparison to standard Windows 7?
[17:31] <bzk23> nod
[17:31] <bzk23> sup
[17:31] <bzk23> yo
[17:31] <kongthap> after using fsck to i got lost+found directory on each partition, should i delete it???
[17:31] <bzk23> sure
[17:31] <paulus68_1> mydog2: pay attention if you switch the main eth cable the router/HUB will still remember the Ip adress given to the first Dell if you put the cable in the second Dell it's not going to work before you have reset the router/hub
[17:31] <LiENUS> MonkeyDust, tried ffmpeg and i get this error "Unknown encoder 'libmp3lame'
[17:31] <LiENUS> "
[17:31] <hitsujiTMO> ESPGuillermo: that question makes absolutely no sense
[17:32] <ESPGuillermo> hitsujiTMO yes it does. I was asking for somebody to compare the general speed of Ubuntu vs Windows 7
[17:32] <paulus68_1> ESPGuillermo: Ubuntu is faster in my opinion and consumes less space compared to a windows 7 installation
[17:33] <bodhi64> and thats just ubuntu. go with a lighter distro and its even faster
[17:35] <JediMaster> Ubuntu 13.10 boots from POST to desktop with password typing time in around 5 seconds for me (booting from a 550MB/sec SSD)
[17:35] <skinnybear> not bad Jedi
[17:35] <datacrusher> hello everyone! I installed ubnutu lts on a friends hp notebook, with onboard ati vga. I managed to install the experimental drivers and got even team fortress running like a charm on the machine. but, after the last atomatic updates (as he told me, doubt he made any advanced tweaking on the system) the lightdm boot after inserting the password just bounces back to login screen
[17:36] <skinnybear> could you clarify what is wrong with lightdm?
[17:39] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6214710/
[17:39] <fishcooker> why there is no output from the serial device
[17:40] <El_Buda> Hi all, how can i remove old kernels??
[17:44] <Slart> El_Buda: use apt-get remove with the older kernel package you no longer want installed
[17:48] <paulus68> El_Buda: try this link http://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2011/01/08/ubuntu-cleanup-how-to-remove-all-unused-linux-kernel-headers-images-and-modules/
[17:49] <paulus68> Slart: you need to pay attention because you can get unmet dependencies which you need to clean afterwards
[17:49] <abradley> I have this in smb.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6214345/  but I'm getting this error when I try to write to the share from windows 7: http://i.imgur.com/KNN3yOv.png
[17:49] <Slart> paulus68: by just using regular apt-get? isn't that supposed to take care of dependencies?
[17:50] <paulus68> Slart: no I'm afraid not
[17:51] <paulus68> abradley: just a thought did you restart your samba?
[17:51] <abradley> indeed, thanks though
[17:52] <raub> El_Buda: that link should work fine if you have disk space left (/usr or /var?)
[17:53] <Slart> El_Buda: oh.. and a quick gotcha since that link had some handy terminal commands for you to copy paste.. here's a small warning about doing just that.. ie copying commands from a website http://thejh.net/misc/website-terminal-copy-paste
[17:54] <raub> But, Slart! It's fun to mindless copy commands that are to be run as root from websites! What can possibly go wrong? ;)
[17:55] <El_Buda> Thank you guys!
[17:56] <Slart> raub: indeed... sometimes I think that might be biggest weakness when it comes to security in linux.. people willingy running almost anything in a terminal window =)
[17:56] <aerodynamix> Guys! Is it impossible to play games on ubuntu?...If Yes, Why?
[17:56] <trism> El_Buda: if you are on 13.04 or newer, older kernels should be automatically unmarked so you might just need a: sudo apt-get --purge autoremove;
[17:56] <El_Buda> I have ubuntu 12.04 LTS installed trism
[17:56] <raub> aerodynamix: it all depends on the game
[17:56] <El_Buda> can i remove kernel-pae too?
[17:56] <Slart> aerodynamix: it's not impossible.. you might have to struggle a bit to play the big windows-games on linux.. but there are plenty of games available
[17:57] <aerodynamix> @raub: Let's say GTA 4..
[17:57] <Slart> !wine | aerodynamix
[17:58] <Slart> aerodynamix: no guarantees that gta4 will work out of the box but you can check that yourself in the application database (appdb.winehq.com)
[17:58] <raub> El_Buda: oldwzder versions, probably. I'd keep the last one around
[17:58] <paulus68> abradley: perhaps this link can help you out https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/samba-fileserver.html
[17:59] <aerodynamix> @Slart: I've checked it.. it isn't there..I just wanted to know the root cause all these pitfalls...
[17:59] <Slart> aerodynamix: huh? not in there? but gta4 is a couple of years old, right?
[17:59] <raub> aerodynamix: remmeber Windows != Linux no matter what systemd thinks
[18:00] <spm-Draget> aerodynamix: Many games are windows only. You can try using WINE - a way I am able to play quite a few games (Wizardry 7, CS:GO, Oddworld, Older ones) but many games run via wine are buggy. GTA 4 will most likely not work bug-free. Check the winehq.org appdb
[18:00] <Slart> aerodynamix: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=8757
[18:00] <spm-Draget> aerodynamix: Steam has many Linux games tho - I have > 100 in there =D
[18:01] <fishcooker> do i have the right driver for these devices if http://paste.ubuntu.com/6214775/?
[18:01] <aerodynamix> thanks all...
[18:01] <El_Buda> thank you raub
[18:02] <raub> fishcooker: meaning? It is not working?
[18:02] <raub> El_Buda: just to make sure you have free disk space but just want to do some trimming?
[18:03] <raub> As opposite to me who usually runs a 512MB /boot, 2GB /usr and /var partitions ;)
[18:03] <fishcooker> yes i do have those serial because on 12.04 i can get the output from those serial
[18:03] <El_Buda> raub,  only for cleaning
[18:04] <fishcooker> but right  now on 10.04 i get Nothing raub
[18:04] <aerodynamix> @spm-Draget@Slart@raub@ubottu:  Guys..why aren't the games directly built for linux by EA Sports,Rockstar Games etc
[18:04] <raub> El_Buda: Cool. Because if you were running out of disk space things are a bit more invovled.
[18:04] <spm-Draget> aerodynamix: Why do you ask this in here?
[18:04] <spm-Draget> aerodynamix: Ask those companies.
[18:04] <Slart> aerodynamix: that's not really a question we can answer.. my guess is money
[18:05] <raub> aerodynamix: market share? Perceived return? Inertia? Aliens? Anal probing?
[18:05] <aerodynamix> thanks..i wouldn't ask about it again..
[18:05] <Ziber> Is there a recommended, safe way to configure my trackpad to be able to switch between virtual desktops, a la Mac OSX?
[18:05] <fishcooker> do i have wrong driver for these devices here raub?
[18:05] <El_Buda> raub, i use an SSD so all space is important hehe
[18:06] <raub> aerodynamix: you might email the publisher
[18:06] <raub> If enough people ask for linux support they might put th emoney and do it
[18:06] <aerodynamix> @raub: yeah..
[18:06] <kostkon> aerodynamix, slowly most of them will start releasing for linux. Just be patient. Check on steam
[18:07] <raub> fishcooker: Not necessarily. Any thing funny in dmesg?
[18:07] <aerodynamix> @kostkon: okay.. i will
[18:07] <MonkeyDust> Ziber  depends on how MacOS does it
[18:07] <tgm4883> aerodynamix, seriously, ask the publisher
[18:07] <kostkon> aerodynamix, maybe except EA
[18:07] <raub> aerodynamix: remember that most games are for the consoles and windows. Even Macs do not have that many games
[18:08] <raub> unless you are talking baout ipads and iphones that is ;)
[18:08] <kostkon> raub, most games are on android
[18:08] <aerodynamix> @raub: yes...:-)
[18:08] <raub> kostkon: you got my drift ;)
[18:09] <Ziber> MonkeyDust: Well, I'd like an easy way (probably with a mulit-touch gesture) to switch between them.
[18:09] <aerodynamix> @kostkon: why except EA?
[18:09] <kostkon> aerodynamix, because they stopped publishing their games on steam
[18:10] <ed__> does anyone know how to get ubuntu to read udf files?
[18:10] <aerodynamix> @kostkon: ok..thanks.
[18:11] <kostkon> aerodynamix, but you never know.
[18:11] <paulus68> ed__: for what purpose?
[18:11] <Ziber> MonkeyDust: I've read http://task3.cc/1068/os-x-like-multitouch-gestures-for-macbook-pro-running-ubuntu-12-10/ but I'm nervous about making that many system modifications... I don't want to permanently skrew anything up.
[18:11] <ed__> @paulus68: I am trying to get it to read a windows 7 installation disc
[18:12] <dhrosa> hello, I have a problem with my keyboard  where  sometimes the  spacebar gets  double p ressed, can I configure ubuntu to ignore repeated key presses?
[18:12] <paulus68> ed__: udf stands for user defined format  and why do you want linux to read window7 install disk
[18:14] <tgm4883> paulus68, I think you mean "Universal Disk Format"
[18:14] <ed__> paulus68: as far as I know, udf stands for universal disc format. I'm trying to reinstall windows 7 because I don't want ubuntu anymore, but a lot of linux os have trouble reading udf
[18:14] <ed__> I've read advice on various forums, but nothing seems to work
[18:15] <dhrosa> aha,  found it  under  universal access
[18:16] <tgm4883> ed__, looks like you need udftools libudf0
[18:16] <paulus68> ed__: and what if you create a bootable usb for windows 7
[18:16] <aerodynamix> spm-Draget  |  Slart  |  raub  |  ubottu  |  kostkon  : and there's SteamOS, released just 2 weeks ago...
[18:16] <kostkon> aerodynamix, not released yet actually, just announced
[18:17] <aerodynamix> @kostkon: oh..
[18:17] <Slart> aerodynamix: yes, things are looking better and better with each day.. but this is getting offtopic.. #ubuntu-offtopic might be a better place for this discussion
[18:17] <ed__> tgm4883: I've downloaded udftools but haven't been able to figure out how to use it.
[18:18] <aerodynamix> @Slart: i'm an IRC newbie..so i'm just getting a hang of things around..i'll see #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:19] <aerodynamix> @Slart: thanks..
[18:19] <Slart> aerodynamix: you're welcome
[18:19] <tgm4883> ed__, a quick search says k3b has udf support
[18:20] <fishcooker> yes this is the output here, raub.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6214775/ also this
[18:20] <tgm4883> ed__, but IDK, I've always just used ISO format, which begs the question, where did you get a UDF file?
[18:20] <aerodynamix> Which one is the best book to start learning BASH and linux stuff..
[18:21] <ed__> tgm4883: I know a computer repair guy who I asked for a windows 7 installation disc, and that just happened to be the format
[18:21] <tgm4883> ...
[18:21] <paulus68>  !manual | aerodynamix
[18:21] <Rory> !cli | aerodynamix
[18:21] <fishcooker> this is the funny thing raub http://paste.ubuntu.com/6214857/
[18:22] <fishcooker> there is two serial disabled
[18:23] <paulus68> ed__: the best thing that you can do in my opinion is find a windows 7 iso on the net and use the serial you got from your friend
[18:23] <tgm4883> paulus68, uh, we don't support that here
[18:23] <paulus68> tgm4883: I know
[18:23] <aerodynamix> paulus68|ubottu|Rory: Thanks guys!
[18:24] <paulus68> tgm4883: can just suggest it
[18:24] <tgm4883> paulus68, no, don't even suggest it
[18:26] <paulus68> tgm4883: we try to help the guy I give a possible solution and he can use this info or just put it aside it's his choice
[18:26] <tgm4883> !piracy | paulus68
[18:27] <hitsujiTMO> I guess he could purchase an MSDN subscription and download the ISO from there :P
[18:27] <tgm4883> hitsujiTMO, he could if he was a developer
[18:29] <paulus68> tgm4883: I didn't use any links what so ever but the remark is noted!!
[18:31] <havv> I'm using Xubuntu 13.04 and I got a notification saying I have 3 updates available, but when I try to see what are those updates it tells my that everything is up to date
[18:32] <Rory> havv: use the terminal to run: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:32] <hitsujiTMO> havv: prob kernel update
[18:34] <havv> thanks! it worked
[18:35] <Rory> havv: No problem, glad to hear it =)
[18:42] <ed__> can anyone help me uninstall ubuntu?
[18:43] <hitsujiTMO> ed__ ... you can't 'uninstall' an OS
[18:43] <paulus68> Rory: FYI after changing the settings and rebooting the language settings where adapted
[18:43] <hitsujiTMO> ed__ you need to install a different OS in it's place
[18:43] <ed__> I cant get it to read the udf disc I'm using to reinstall windows
[18:43] <Soul-Sing> hai, is it possible to contact ubuntu-rt via a channel on feenode?
[18:44] <ed__> I've tried a few different things, and nothing seems to work
[18:44] <CatKiller> ed__: You can use wubi if you installed ubuntu with it
[18:44] <repudiate> Soul-Sing: Ubuntu-rt, what's that?
[18:44] <CatKiller> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/windows-installer
[18:44] <repudiate> CatKiller: Are you really a CatKiller ?
[18:44] <hitsujiTMO> ed__: have you tried renameing the .udf to .iso?
[18:44] <repudiate> That's awful CatKiller
[18:44] <paulus68> ed__:  can you boot from that cd?
[18:44] <IdleOne> Soul-Sing: as far as I know the only way is via rt at ubuntu.com
[18:45] <CatKiller> repudiate: What's a catkiller?
[18:45] <repudiate> One who kills cats?
[18:45] <Soul-Sing> IdleOne, thx
[18:45] <CatKiller> No, it would be "cat killer"
[18:45] <repudiate> oh, thanks for clarifying.
[18:45] <CatKiller> the space (or lack of) is important
[18:45] <ed__> paulus68: I cannot boot from that CD. I think that's primarily the issue/
[18:46] <tgm4883> ed__, I'd suggest you order a replacement disk from microsoft
[18:46] <repudiate> CatKiller: So ISuckDick, would mean that...you actually, right?
[18:46] <ed__> tgm4883: I would, but they want to charge nearly $200 for a premium support package
[18:47] <CatKiller> repudiate: You're being less than polite
[18:47] <repudiate> CatKiller: Soryy, just a joke (in bad taste)
[18:47] <CatKiller> repudiate: That's ok
[18:47] <ed__> It looks like I might just have to find another disc though
[18:47] <hitsujiTMO> ed__ is it a .udf file or udf file system?
[18:47]  * repudiate walks away shamefully.
[18:47] <CatKiller> repudiate: I love cats btw. The name doesn't mean what you think it does
[18:47] <CatKiller> repudiate: But the confusion is understandable
[18:47] <ed__> hitsujiTMO: it is a .udf file
[18:48] <CatKiller> repudiate: It was supposed to mean the opposite
[18:48] <hitsujiTMO> ed__: http://myfotoblast.com/blog/?p=452
[18:48] <tgm4883> ed__, I'm looking at a post right now where someone says it's $30
[18:49] <tgm4883> ed__, http://support.microsoft.com/kb/326246
[18:49] <hitsujiTMO> ed__: in future, you should create an image of your computer before installing a new OS if you do not have the installation media
[18:50] <paulus68> ed__: I'd go with hitsujitmo's suggestion
[18:50] <repudiate> What is the best way to take an image of your computer? Is there any free software?
[18:50] <hitsujiTMO> repudiate: dd
[18:50] <delinquentme> so I'm supposed to get 4 hours of battery out of this new laptop
[18:51] <delinquentme> is there some ubuntu util for tuning this battery use?
[18:51] <delinquentme> im getitng < 2 hrs
[18:51] <tgm4883> repudiate, http://clonezilla.org/
[18:51] <repudiate> tgm4883: Thanks.
[18:51] <repudiate> hitsujiTMO: DD?
[18:51] <repudiate> As in the cup size?
[18:51] <micho> hello. How  can I know that I have my /home folder encrypted? (Ubuntu 13). I know that there was a checkbox during installation, but I don't remember if I used it.
[18:51] <tgm4883> delinquentme, I had a similar issue  until I installed the prop video drivers
[18:51] <tgm4883> !info dd
[18:52] <tgm4883> well fine then
[18:52] <paulus68> !backup|repudiate
[18:52] <ed__> thanks, everyone. I'll give those suggestions a shot.
[18:52] <hitsujiTMO> repudiate: dd is a command line util that allows you to copy a drive to a file, and back
[18:52] <paulus68> !dd
[18:52] <nick__> repudiate: I like and use g4l -> it's a live cd: http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l/
[18:53] <hitsujiTMO> delinquentme: is it a fresh install?
[18:54] <delinquentme> hitsujiTMO, yeaaaa!
[18:54] <delinquentme> tgm4883, unfortunately the video drivers killed the display
[18:54] <delinquentme> =[
[18:55] <tgm4883> delinquentme, what video card/laptop?
[18:55] <hitsujiTMO> delinquentme: i had a few odd issues with battery calibration for the first few runs of ubuntu on my current laptop ... what specs?
[18:56] <delinquentme> tried installing them and they just shit out all display operations
[18:56] <delinquentme> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834313584
[18:56] <FloodBot1> delinquentme: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:56] <delinquentme> so yeah its a pretty  new model
[18:57] <leptone_> please help. trying to install Mathematica. encountering error. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6215002/
[18:57] <hitsujiTMO> oooh that does look like a battery eater alright
[18:58] <leptone_> following this article: http://kobriniq.ru/mathematica/ustanovka-mathematica-9-v-operatsionnoy-sisteme-linux-os-mint-ubuntu
[18:59] <trism> leptone_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1323342 suggests you should remove the spaces from the folder name to fix the issue
[19:00] <trism> leptone_: so: mv 'Mathematica 9 Linux' Mathematica9Linux
[19:00] <micho> How  can I know that I have my /home folder encrypted? (Ubuntu 13). I know that there was a checkbox during installation, but I don't remember if I used it.
[19:00] <delinquentme> hitsujiTMO, but the specs are claiming 4 horus
[19:00] <delinquentme> hours **
[19:00] <delinquentme> in addition its the 4th gen haswell
[19:00] <hitsujiTMO> delinquentme: unfortunately i don't know any specific tools, but have a read thru https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PowerManagement for tweaks you can do ... turning down brightness is one of the biggest power savers
[19:01] <hitsujiTMO> delinquentme: its 4 hours ... but is that on idle?
[19:01] <tgm4883> delinquentme, it's really very simple. The open source video drivers don't know how to handle that hardware. It's likely that you have 3 video cards all powered and running at the same time.
[19:02] <CTravain> Hello
[19:02] <tgm4883> that is the exact issue I had
[19:02] <n0ldor> hi
[19:03] <Lixd> Hi, if I make a live CD out of my secondary harddrive (don't ask me why), can I use it then as a source for installation to the main drive? (if I choose to boot from the secondary one) I guess I can, I'm just curious if somebody has tried it
[19:04] <fellayaboy> how can i burn a data dvd made from files and folders using terminal
[19:04] <mallu> Hi.. I have an openldap server and now trying to figure out NFS and automount for home directories... Any documents/sites you can share with me how to do it? I looked all over and unable to find oone
[19:04] <leptone_> trism, awesome thx a lot!
[19:04] <Lixd> (I would make that liveCD using unetbootin )
[19:05] <n0ldor> i have ubuntu in vmware and i have installed a mysql database, but i don't now how can i connect from the pc to this database, it shows to me this error: "Error SQL(2003) Can't connect to Mysq server"
[19:05] <gdos> hitsujiTMO: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-terminal/+bug/1237594 (bug report filed on that issue we discussed earlier)
[19:06] <tgm4883> n0ldor, can you connect to it from the mysql server?
[19:06] <n0ldor> yes
[19:06] <hitsujiTMO> n0ldor: by default mysql is set so its accessible by localhost only
[19:06] <mallu> i have nfs installed and working.. just need to figure out how to enable autofs schema and automount
[19:06] <martend> mallu: maybe fstab is for you
[19:07] <Rogue-3> n0ldor: edit /etc/mysql/my.cnf and comment out or remove the "bind <IP_ADDRESS>" line
[19:07] <tgm4883> n0ldor, then I agree with hitsujiTMO you'll need to set it to listen on more than localhost. See Rogue-3 above
[19:07] <n0ldor> Rogue-3: ok i try :D
 Hi, if I make a live CD out of my secondary harddrive (don't ask me why), can I use it then as a source for installation to the main drive? (if I choose to boot from the secondary one) I guess I can, I'm just curious if somebody has tried it (I would make that liveCD using unetbootin )
[19:07] <Lixd> :)
[19:09] <Voziv> Is there a way to only allow a hostname through the firewall? (Dynamic ip address issue)
[19:09] <Lixd> <- So I guess nobody has tried that...
[19:10] <saiarcot895> Lixd: I would guess it would work, provided you boot to that partition
[19:10] <ikonia> Lixd: a livecd is different from an installer, so it would depend on how you want to "use it as a source"
[19:10] <hitsujiTMO> Voziv: is this in a local environment or over net?
[19:10] <Voziv> Over net
[19:11] <Lixd> saiarcot895: I will make sure;  ikonia: the utility unetbootin makes that possible as it seems
[19:11] <ejv> public facing mysql server, without a firewall device, is not recommended. use with caution.
[19:11] <Lixd> and should take care about MBR and such stuff
[19:11] <ikonia> Lixd: well no - it's not actually that simple
[19:11] <Lixd> ikonia:  it is not?
[19:11] <ikonia> Lixd: on paper the concept is sane,
[19:11] <tgm4883> Voziv, I would suggest port knocking
[19:11] <Lixd> So what's the problem?
[19:11] <ikonia> Lixd: keep in mind the installer expect certain things in certain loctions in a certain state, if you then change them and make a "new" livemedia, things may not be in the state expected
[19:12] <hitsujiTMO> Voziv: I cannot think of a single way of allowing access via hostname ... but depending on the service there could be some other of securing the connection
[19:12] <Voziv> ok
[19:12] <Lixd> ikonia:  how so if it can work on a USB
[19:12] <tgm4883> !info knockd
[19:12] <ikonia> Lixd: what do you mean, how can it work, what is "it"
[19:12] <Lixd> I'm only intending to use another media
[19:12] <tgm4883> Voziv, I would look at knockd
[19:12] <Lixd> ikonia: isntallation of Ubuntu
[19:12] <Lixd> can be made to USB
[19:13] <ikonia> Lixd: yes, you can install the standard ubuntu image from a USB....that's not what you said, you said make a custom livecd.
[19:13] <Lixd> no
[19:13] <Lixd> or I'm sorry
[19:13] <Lixd> to make myself clear
[19:13] <tgm4883> !enter
[19:13] <Voziv> Thanks tgm4883, I know about port knocking already though
[19:13] <ikonia> have I missunderstood, if so sorry
[19:14] <Lixd> ikona: I want to proceed as if making a USB ubuntu installation flash drive, but with a harddisk (non usb)
[19:14] <Lixd> which... should work I suppose
[19:14] <ikonia> Lixd: ahhh
[19:14] <Lixd> (with my secondary harddisk)
[19:14] <Lixd> so I guess if I make my computer to boot at it, it should work as a USB
[19:14] <ikonia> Lixd: the issue you may have there is actually booting it, which should be an easy fix, but that should work
[19:14] <tgm4883> Voziv, I'm unaware of allowing a hostname though a firewall, but if you want something more secure than port knocking, perhaps single packet authorization?
[19:15] <Lixd> (that computer has problems with USB booting)
[19:15] <Lixd> ikonia: yeah...
[19:15] <ikonia> Lixd: apologies, miss-understood what you where trying to do
[19:15] <Lixd> that computer is right now cdrom-less (and I'm too in general) and having troubles booting from USB even when I choose to boot it... it always gives me "Boot error" (but the same flash drive works on any other computer )
[19:15] <Lixd> ikonia: no problem...
[19:16] <hitsujiTMO> voziv: the easiest option may be to use a vpn
[19:19] <Voziv> I just found an interesting approach. Running a cron job that resolves a host name periodically and updates the firewall based on the ip address
[19:21] <clarisse> Bonsoir
[19:21] <TJ-> Voziv: Allowing netfilters access to a hostname is possible, via scripting, if the DNS zone has a short TTL so the hostname and currently allocated IP are always in sync. A cron job runs every minute that does "iptables -D INPUT -s $LAST_IP/32 -j ACCEPT; LAST_IP=$(dig $HOSTNAME); iptables -A INPUT -s $LAST_IP/32 -j ACCEPT"
[19:22] <Voziv> yeah. I'm looking at doing something similar
[19:25] <TJ-> Voziv: Obviously the script needs to 'save' $LAST_IP to a file so it can be sourced each time the cron job runs. "echo LAST_IP=$LAST_IP >>/var/spool/fw-ip.sh" and in the cron job "$SAVED=/var/spool/fw-ip.sh; [ -n "$SAVED" -a -r "$SAVED" ] && source "$SAVED"  "
[19:25] <Voziv> TJ-: http://diginc.us/linux/2010/using-iptables-with-dynamic-ip-hostnames-like-dyndns-org/
[19:26] <TJ-> Voziv: That looks like overkill... no need to 'restart' iptables which infers flushing the tables and reloading, which could affect current connections
[19:26] <TJ-> Voziv: Just remove the old IP if it has changed, and insert the new one
[19:26] <Voziv> yeah
[19:26] <Voziv> I agree, but we're both on the same page
[19:27] <TJ-> Voziv: It all depends on a short TTL in the DNS zone to avoid caching locally
[19:27] <Voziv> If it's super important yeah
[19:27] <TJ-> If the TTL is 5 minutes make the cron job the same
[19:28] <TJ-> Voziv: The longer the TTL the longer the time you might have to wait to gain access if the stale rule is in place
[19:28] <Voziv> I'll be running somewhere between 30-60 minutes. The ip change is rare
[19:28] <Voziv> I think the TTL is 5 minutes, but I'm just not worried about checking that often
[19:28] <TJ-> Voziv: If the TTL is 30 minutes the cron job every 15 would make sense
[19:31] <hitsujiTMO> Voziv: what protocol is the apps using to communicate?
[19:31] <Voziv> tcp
[19:31] <hitsujiTMO> what protocol on top of tcp? or do you know?
[19:32] <brainwash> !nomodeset
[19:34] <Yowl> Does truecrypt get along with ubuntu very well?
[19:35] <Voziv> hitsujiTMO: Currently I'm just looking to wall of my sshd
[19:35] <skinux> I just installed w3c-markup-validator from repo, I can only find it in /usr/share, how do I fully install it for use?
[19:35] <hitsujiTMO> are you using rsa auth?
[19:35] <TJ-> Voziv: openpvn! Don't leave SSH open at all... openvpn with UDP and a TA key is much safer
[19:36] <Voziv> It's already secure in the fact that there's only a single user with a single ssh key that can access the system. It's just peice of mind and less logs if outside connections are straight up rejected. And I'll know how to do it in the future :)
[19:36] <Voziv> TJ-: Sort of why I'm after firewalling it except the two ip's that matter
[19:38] <TJ-> Voziv: I use openvpn because once its up I can use any protocol I need, not limited to SSH. Makes testing, or accessing private LAN services much more streamlined. It also allows the server to 'push' to the client once the VPN tunnel is active.
[19:38] <hitsujiTMO> Voziv: yeah if you want to add another layer of security then VPN would be the best choice
[19:38] <tqrst> is it normal for python binding packages like python-subversion to not track the current python version? Ubuntu came with python 2.7, yet python-subversion installs bindings specific to 2.6, which I can't load from 2.7.
[19:38] <marianne> hi guys... I'm looking for a text editor like Edit+ (where you can select what programming language you're writing in). The descriptions in the software center don't answer my questions. I'd also rather not have to run it thgough Wine, if possible. Anyone have any suggestions?
[19:39] <hitsujiTMO> marianne: sublime text 2
[19:39] <Voziv> TJ-: Yup
[19:40] <TJ-> marianne: emacs or vim, if you don't mind terminals
[19:40] <Rory> marianne: geany, kate, or sublime text
[19:40] <marianne> hitsujiTMO: thanks, I'll look it up
[19:40] <marianne> TJ: terminal isn't bad, it's kinda how I started out
[19:40] <Voziv> or nano!
[19:41] <marianne> Rory: hummm... need to research the first 2, never heard of them
[19:41] <TJ-> marianne: Well emacs and vim have many supporting features for many programming languages, not least syntax highlighting and code-completion, build system integration, etc.
[19:41] <Rory> marianne: Kate is the default KDE text editor
[19:43] <nick__> marianne: I like gedit, but then I prefer the gnome desktop
[19:43] <TJ-> marianne: The ultimate of course is Eclipse IDE
[19:45] <marianne> TJ: I'm not a fan of Eclipse.... makes fun stuff look too much like work... and it's almost easier for me to work in a simple plain non-distracting window
[19:46] <toto6> hi ! Do you know how i can stretch image background in the terminal (terminator) ? thanks :)
[19:47] <marianne> Thanks guys... off to research
[19:47] <bbtech> Is there a way I can run a bash script without the ./ in front?
[19:48] <petrepatrasc> source <filename>?
[19:49] <bbtech> petrepatrasc, I meant just "filename" not "source filename"
[19:49] <Rory> !path | bbtech
[19:49] <comptroller> hey all,  how do I install a game that has no file extension? What is the command?
[19:49] <bbtech> Rory, the script is on the path and I'm in the directory where the script resides
[19:49] <Rory> bbtech: What's the output of "echo $PATH"
[19:49] <bbtech> I just want to type myProgram instead of ./myProgram, is it possible? without an alias?
[19:50] <Rory> comptroller: Completely depends on the application, what are you trying to install?
[19:50] <bbtech> Rory, why does it matter, I'm inside the directory where the script resides.
[19:50] <Rory> bbtech: Because that's how bash works
[19:50] <Rory> bbtech: It needs to be in a directory in your $PATH
[19:51] <bbtech> The path has /home/brett/.dotfiles/bin: ...which is where the script is
[19:51] <comptroller> Rory, I'm trying to run the LegendofDungeon install file
[19:51] <Rory> comptroller: Are you following a guide?
[19:52] <bbtech> Maybe I'm not being clear, I can run ./myProgram, sh myProgram, source myProgram....but I want to run myProgram
[19:52] <comptroller> Rory, no there isn't one with the torrent
[19:52] <TJ-> bbtech: Have you included a shebang line in the script?
[19:52] <bbtech> TJ-, yes
[19:52] <Rory> bbtech: And maybe I'm not being clear. The directory that myProgram is in needs to be in your $PATH
[19:52] <bbtech> Rory, it is
[19:52] <Rory> comptroller: and ./filename doesn't work?
[19:52] <Rory> bbtech: What's the output of "echo $PATH"
[19:53] <TJ-> bbtech: Then something in the PATH is stopping it.  So i see lightdm i enter login informatio, but after that going black screen.
[19:54] <loa> what it can be?
[19:54]  * bluj removes window flash on his name :-)
[19:54] <Rory> loa: Is it only old kernels that do this?
[19:55] <loa> Rory, last one is ok.
[19:55] <Rory> loa: Can you log into another user, or the guest user?
[19:55] <TJ-> loa: If you're using a proprietary graphics driver, it may be its kernel module hasn't been built for the older kernels
[19:56] <Rory> comptroller: You need to set the installer as executable by right-clicking it and going properties->allow executing
[19:56] <loa> TJ-, i have nvidia, so i use it? But... How lightdm works?
[19:56] <Rory> comptroller: Then you should be able to double click it to run it
[19:57] <TJ-> loa: Sounds like the nvidia module for the older kernels may not have been built... it uses DKMS to get built when a kernel is installed - usually - but it can fail to build against some kernels.
[19:57] <loa> I can run this procudure again?
[19:57] <Rory> loa: ls /var/lib/initramfs-tools | sudo xargs -n1 /usr/lib/dkms/dkms_autoinstaller start
[19:58] <comptroller> Rory, I tried but it just starts playing music but no file opens.  I had to kill the process manually
[19:59] <Rory> comptroller: Try from the terminal: cd /path/to/directory then ./filename
[19:59] <loa> Rory i need to run update-initramfs after that?
[19:59] <Rory> loa: I don't know actually. Yes
[19:59] <Rory> loa: Doing so won't cause problems
[20:00] <loa> So can you explain me, how lightdm works well without driver?
[20:00] <loa> looks like it works on right resolution
[20:03] <duxb> I'm having trouble using S/MIME encryption/signing in thunderbird, anybody have any experience with it?
[20:04] <superjoe> hi - I tried to install Ubuntu 13.04 desktop 64-bit with a usb drive but it says mounting /dev/loop1 on /cow failed: invalid argument can not mount /dev/loop1 on /cow
[20:05] <superjoe> then it drops me into an "initramfs" prompt.
[20:05] <Rory> superjoe: Did you use Startup Disk Creator to make the USB?
[20:05] <superjoe> Rory, yes
[20:05] <superjoe> usb-creator-gtk
[20:05] <Rory> superjoe: choose the "Discard changes after shutdown" option when I was using Start up disk creator program to create it
[20:05] <Rory> err I copied that
[20:05] <Rory> So the sentence doesn't make sense, but you know what I mean
[20:05] <superjoe> let me try to find that
[20:07] <iUnify> Hello guys, I have a quick question.... I have been here back and forth with Ubuntu issues and unable to resolve them with my hardware... I just got a windows8 dvd (dindt really want 8 but thats besides the point) and now I have NO idea how I am to install it... I can't run .exe from linux, the dvd doesnt run it if i boot to it... so, how do I go about this?
[20:08] <duxb> anybody know anything about using SSL certs in thunderbird to sign/encrypt?
[20:08] <Rory> iUnify: Completely offtopic
[20:08] <Rory> !ot | iUnify
[20:08] <Rory> iUnify: Ask in ##windows for windows-related support
[20:08] <iUnify> I understand, I have been here for questions time and again - but its an Ubuntu question...
[20:09] <iUnify> No one in Windows will know how to install from Linux
[20:09] <Rory> !windows | iUnify no it isn't
[20:09] <ikonia> it's not an ubuntu question, it's nothing to do with ubuntu
[20:09] <Rory> iUnify: You are having a problem booting from the Windows DVD
[20:09] <Rory> ikonia: How is that an Ubuntu support issue?
[20:09] <Rory> ikonia: Hey you stole my i[tab]
[20:09] <ikonia> it's not, as I've just said
[20:09] <iUnify> Appoligies guys, just figured cause its not a question using win, i have unbuntu, and can't figure out what to do ON ubuntu
[20:09] <ikonia> iUnify: you do nothing on ubuntu
[20:10] <iUnify> Yes, I set boot priority for dvd and nothing happened, can't run .exe
[20:10] <ikonia> iUnify: you don't install windows from within ubuntu
[20:10] <Rory> iUnify: You don't install Windows within Ubuntu. It's irrelavnt to Ubuntu or any other OS - you boot from the DVD to install it
[20:10] <Rory> iUnify: Probably a bad DVD burn
[20:10] <iUnify> OK, so essentially it should have boot from the dvd
[20:10] <iUnify> Its a legit copy
[20:11] <iUnify> I don't want to take space here fellas, sorry - I appreciate the info very much though, for real. THANKS!  Now... time to figure this bs out. lol
[20:11] <duxb> iUnify: call microsoft support, you paid for it, probably
[20:11] <iUnify> From a pawn shop
[20:11] <Rory> iUnify: LOL
[20:11] <Rory> Literally
[20:11] <iUnify> lol.  a friends tho, I can return if its beat.
[20:12] <superjoe> okay, now I'm getting /casper/vmlinuz.efi: read error @ 5357856
[20:16] <jdenning> Can anyone provide me a pointer as to whom I should submit a patch for an init script?  I have a small patch to the /etc/init.d/freeradius script, but I'm not sure if that should be submitted to the Ubuntu (or Debian??) package maintainer, or the Freeradius project?  Any ideas?
[20:17] <ikonia> jdenning: init scripts are not in /etc/init.d any more
[20:18] <jdenning> ikonia: I was patching against 12.04, I realize this has changed for more recent releases, but the patch is also applicable to upstart based init
[20:18] <ikonia> 12.04 should be using upstart
[20:18] <jdenning> The question remains though - who should patches of that sort go to?
[20:19] <ikonia> it needs to be a valid question, you're patching something that doesn't exist/shouldn't exist on ubuntu
[20:19] <jdenning> ikonia: The file in 12.04 is /etc/init.d/freeradius - this is installed by the package 'freeradius'.
[20:20] <jdenning> ikonia: <Sigh>  I hope you realize that this sort of "Why do you want to know?" response to straight-forward questions in the ubuntu community is kind of a running-joke among certain sysadmins I know (Redhat guys)
[20:20] <jdenning> I've never submitted a patch to an OSS project before - just trying to figure out if ubuntu maintainers would be interested or not.  I'm perfectly happy to just use it myself if no one cares.
[20:20] <ikonia> jdenning: no-one asked why you wanted to know, I correctly explained that the init script should be upstart
[20:21] <ikonia> jdenning: and seeing as I am a "redhat" guy, pointing at me and saying "you ubuntu guy is why redhat guys laugh" is stupid, more and a pointless ocmment
[20:21] <wilee-nilee> jdenning, every group has a hierarchy and ins and out others, your argument/sigh is a childish response.
[20:22] <jdenning> ikonia: My question was "who should I talk to about submitting this patch"  12.04 LTS, is still supported, correct?
[20:22] <blotek> ikonia:  actually it makes sense