[04:20] <SkyrisBactera> Hi, elopio, kyrofa, sergiusens, popey and flexiondotorg
[05:18] <Accelerator> wxl: Hi....are you still there?
[05:45] <RAI> hii please help me
[05:46] <RAI> my mentor are not replying 36 hours is over
[05:46] <wxl> who's your mentor?
[05:46] <wxl> (s)
[05:47] <Accelerator> wxl: Sorry to disturb your conversation...but could you please give me a suitable solution to "missing Exec key"?
[05:48] <wxl> Accelerator: say what? XD
[05:48] <Accelerator> wxl: https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapcraft/+bug/1727435
[05:48] <RAI> my mentors are elopio and
[05:49] <wxl> elopio has been on vacation. not sure when he's getting back
[05:50] <wxl> Accelerator: sorry, not much of a snapper. probably can't help too much.
[05:50] <Accelerator> wxl: Thank you anyway....do you know another mentor who can help me?
[05:50] <wxl> what i can give you is a little logic based on what i do know
[05:50] <RAI> so what id do
[05:51] <Accelerator> wxl: Any information would be welcomed 😀
[05:51] <wxl> a desktop file (e.g. /usr/share/applications/vlc.desktop) has an Exec line (e.g. Exec=/usr/bin/vlc --started-from-file %U)
[05:52] <wxl> oh and the desktop file usually starts with [Desktop Entry]
[05:52] <wxl> so i would guess:
[05:52] <wxl>  1. it looks for the file
[05:52] <wxl>  2. it fails to find the file
[05:52] <wxl>  3. however, it doesn't stop there
[05:53] <wxl>  4. next step: find [Desktop Entry] to perhaps validate it as a desktop file
[05:53] <wxl>  5. fails to find it
[05:53] <wxl>  6. still, continues.........
[05:53] <wxl>  7. next: get the Exec line from the desktop entry
[05:53] <wxl>  8. fails to find it
[05:54] <Accelerator> So it stops there?
[05:54] <wxl> so the way i might TRY to approach this is to make some conditionals to stop at each of those fails rather than marching on
[05:54]  * wxl shrugs
[05:54] <wxl> i imagine it probably still tries to continue on
[05:54] <Accelerator> ok...don't think another mentor would have given me such a detailed explanation...you are the best XD
[05:55] <wxl> RAI: you said "elopio and" and then didn't continue
[05:55] <wxl> Accelerator: well, also, i may be wrong, but at least i can explain being wrong well XD
[05:55] <RAI> ya please wait
[05:56] <Accelerator> wxl: Thank you and btw goodnight if you will be going to sleep shortly afterwards XD
[05:56] <RAI> Sergio Schvezov
[05:56] <RAI> shi is also my mentor
[05:56] <RAI> she
[05:56] <RAI> i have submitted my task on 26/12/2017
[05:56] <wxl> that's sergiusens
[05:56] <RAI> they have not replyied yet
[05:57] <wxl> they've not been here in 6 days
[05:57] <wxl> please give me a link to the task instance
[05:57] <wxl> i doubt i can help but i can look
[05:57] <RAI> so you are also a mentor
[05:58] <RAI> i have contact the google
[05:58] <wxl> i'm a mentor
[05:58] <wxl> i'm not the mentor
[05:58] <wxl> i don't mentor in everything
[05:58] <RAI> nice
[05:58] <wxl> but no task instance link means i can't help you
[05:58] <wxl> what did google say?
[05:59] <RAI> Thank you for letting us know. We’ll contact your mentor and see what is going on.
[06:00] <RAI> they have told me
[06:00] <wxl> wow, that's not too useful
[06:00] <wxl> well i can't do anything else for you if you don't give me a task instance link
[06:01] <RAI> ok i am giving
[06:03] <RAI> https://www.youtube.com/timedtext_editor?action_mde_edit_form=1&v=-3b9qkl9Z_k&lang=en&bl=vmp&ui=hd&ref=player&tab=captions&captions-r=1
[06:03] <wxl> not what i asked for
[06:03] <RAI> please help me if you can
[06:03] <RAI> so ican claim other tasks
[06:04] <RAI> what??
[06:04] <RAI> please help me
[06:04] <wxl> a link to your task instance on google code in
[06:05] <wxl> that's what i'm looking for
[06:05] <wxl> can't help you without it
[06:05] <RAI> ok wait
[06:05] <RAI> https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/
[06:06] <wxl> nope
[06:06] <wxl> that's the main entry point
[06:06] <RAI> what
[06:06] <wxl> this is for YOUR instance of the task
[06:07] <RAI> hey are you on gmail
[06:07] <wxl> starts with https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/task-instances/
[06:07] <wxl> if i were, i'd have no intention of giving out my email address if that's what you're angling for
[06:08] <RAI> https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/task-instances/5023586198749184/
[06:08] <RAI> see this
[06:09] <wxl> ah
[06:09] <wxl> i don't have access to our youtube
[06:09] <wxl> but popey does. i'd ask him
[06:10] <wxl> since he did the original video, he should be able to help
[06:10] <RAI> but popey is not replying only
[06:11] <wxl> when's the last time you mentioned his nickname here and asked for help?
[06:11] <RAI> on 26
[06:11] <wxl> i notice he's not a mentor on the task, so he's probably not getting notifications on those comments
[06:11] <popey> It's 6am here :)
[06:11] <popey> Good morning
[06:11] <wxl> there you go
[06:12] <RAI> hii popey
[06:12] <popey> Wassup?
[06:12] <RAI> can you help me
[06:12] <wxl> to catch you up, popey, RAI wants to get https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/task-instances/5023586198749184/ reviewed. he's already contacted Google unsuccessfully in trying to get help but all they said is they'll contact his mentors, both of which are, i believe, on vacay
[06:12] <popey> I will look. One moment, please be patient
[06:15] <popey> thanks wxl
[06:15] <wxl> thank you popey :)
[06:15] <RAI> what happen popey
[06:15] <wxl> RAI: just be patient. he's reviewing it and will get back to you.
[06:15] <RAI> ok sorry
[06:15] <wxl> RAI: until then, go find another task to work on!
[06:16] <RAI> dont call me rai call me shivam
[06:16] <wxl> RAI: even though you can't claim another task, there's nothing keeping you frmo working on it
[06:16] <wxl> your nick is RAI. try /nick shivam
[06:16] <wxl> ah nevermind, i see that someone has registered that nick
[06:16] <popey> RAI: um, you've translated it from English to English?
[06:17] <RAI> so popey now hat
[06:17] <wxl> you could try /nick shivam_
[06:17] <RAI> what
[06:17] <wxl> popey: the task description says it's for syncing subtitles
[06:17] <popey> I'm not sure the goal of the task is to translate from English (the original language) to English
[06:17] <shivam_> thanks xwl
[06:18] <popey> oh
[06:18] <shivam_> yes it is from english to english only we have add the subtiitle
[06:18] <popey> ok, i understand. not seen this task before, sorry
[06:19] <shivam_> so popey how can i claim another tasks
[06:20] <shivam_> hey popey are you there
[06:20] <popey> DUDE!
[06:20] <popey> PATIENCE
[06:20] <popey> I literally woke up 10 minutes ago and am looking at the task you asked me to look at, please wait
[06:21] <wxl> shivam_: as i said above, you cannot claim another task until this one is reviewed but you can find another one to work on and start working on it.
[06:21] <popey> I have replied to the task
[06:21] <shivam_> but i cannot claim any task
[06:21] <wxl> shivam_: i said that.
[06:22] <shivam_> ok
[06:22] <wxl> but you CAN start working on it
[06:24] <shivam_> ok bye everyone
[06:37] <RAI> hi popey
[06:37] <RAI> please give me the script in english
[06:37] <popey> for what?
[06:37] <wxl> the aforementioned task, popey. it seems you're implicated in the task description :)
[06:37] <RAI> the script in english
[06:38] <popey> there are numerous scripts, I'm asking which one
[06:39] <wxl> RAI: give him the link to the video you're interested in
[06:42] <RAI> https://www.youtube.com/timedtext_video?v=-3b9qkl9Z_k
[06:42] <RAI> please give me
[06:43] <RAI> are you there popey
[06:43] <popey> i am looking
[06:44] <wxl> i would suggest more patience, RAI. if you're trying to get help by doing "hey help me! are you there? hello? please help me! now, please!" it's going to get annoying real fast.
[06:44] <popey> This is the 3rd time RAI has had this explained
[06:45] <popey> RAI: I believe this is the text you're after https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nKb2GU53WoeXvRWXzN37opoa3U6SH_Jn9KJWO6ikiB8/edit
[06:45] <RAI> i am sorry for that but in task it is written that ask the script of the video in english
[06:46] <RAI> ok thankyou
[06:46] <popey> np
[06:46] <wxl> the problem, RAI, is not what you're asking. it's how you're asking it
[06:47] <RAI> yes you are right
[06:47] <RAI> can i ask a question
[06:47] <wxl> you just did
[06:48] <RAI> where are you from(which country)
[06:49] <RAI> i think you are angry to me
[06:49] <RAI> sorry if i have heart you
[06:51] <popey> I'm based in the UK
[06:52] <RAI> ohoh
[07:48] <konrad11901> elopio, kyrofa, sergiusens: ping!
[10:14] <konrad11901> wxl, tsimonq2: anyone there?
[12:42] <omairqazi> hi kyrofa
[12:45] <omairqazi> hi @popey
[12:46] <popey> hi
[12:46] <omairqazi> will mentors be online tomorrow
[12:47] <omairqazi> or is there a holiday?
[12:52] <popey> Some mentors will be on vacation until ~2nd Jan
[12:52] <popey> How can I help?
[13:02] <m4sk1n> are davidcalle or degville on vacation too?
[13:06] <popey> Yes.
[13:09] <omairqazi> @popey well kyrofa asked me to release my snap to stable and he will approve my task
[13:10] <popey> can you link to the task please?
[13:10] <omairqazi> yes https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/task-instances/6029734162989056/
[13:11] <degville> m4sk1n: yes, sorry. We had hoped to have some time this week, but it has just been too busy.
[13:11] <m4sk1n> ok, I understand
[13:12] <degville> Thanks m4sk1n.
[13:14] <omairqazi> @popey https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/task-instances/6029734162989056/
[13:14] <popey> omairqazi: I'm looking, one moment
[13:14] <omairqazi> @popey ok
[13:15] <popey> omairqazi: done
[13:16] <omairqazi> @popey thanks!!
[13:16] <popey> np
[13:17] <omairqazi> @popey i tried registering instantnews but the name was not available so i used omairqazi-instantnews
[13:17] <omairqazi> @popey if you can transfer the name instantnews to me then i can edit my snap name and publish it as instantnews
[13:17] <popey> omairqazi: I think the process of registering a name needs improving. The name is pre-registered, but you can request it gets transferred to you.
[13:17] <popey> We should make that more clear
[13:18] <popey> Did you use "snapcraft register instantnews" when you did that? Or did you do it via the web dashboard?
[13:19] <omairqazi> terminal throws The name 'instantnews' is already taken.  We can if needed rename snaps to ensure they match the expectations of most users. If you are the publisher most users expect for 'instantnews' then claim the name at 'https://dashboard.snapcraft.io/register-snap/?series=16&name=instantnews'
[13:19] <popey> yeah, I think that the first sentence is misleading
[13:20] <popey> I will file a bug against our tools to get that improved. Thanks!
[13:20] <omairqazi> @popey your welcome. what if i can file a bug
[13:21] <popey> It's fine. I don't mind doing it :) I will post you a link in here if you want to comment on it.
[13:22] <popey> https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/blob/881a7940552a1eac3c8f0833e33e71017d5b549b/snapcraft/storeapi/errors.py#L169
[13:22] <popey> that's the line I have a problem with
[13:23] <omairqazi> @popey ok its fine
[13:24] <omairqazi> @popey can i go and claim another task now?
[13:24] <popey> sure, I approved the last one
[13:29] <popey> omairqazi: https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapcraft/+bug/1740500 - bug filed :)
[13:37] <omairqazi> hi my connection was lost
[13:53] <omairqazi> @popey can you add the label 'bug' to this https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/task-instances/6425720735662080/
[13:56] <omairqazi> @popey can you add the label 'bug' to this https://github.com/canonical-docs/snappy-docs/issues/283
[13:57] <popey> Just having lunch, will do when back at my desk
[13:58] <omairqazi> @popey Oh! sorry for disturbing you
[14:00] <konrad11901> popey, after eating lunch, could you take a look at my submission, please (https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/task-instances/4900635512143872/)? You're not a mentor of this task, but kyrofa has already checked it, and I've done what he suggested. Thanks in advance and sorry for bothering you!
[14:03] <popey> Sure. 10 mins
[14:04] <konrad11901> great! :)
[14:11] <popey> omairqazi: seems I don't have permission to add tags to that bug
[14:13] <popey> konrad11901: that one looks like it needs kyrofa , sorry
[14:22] <omairqazi> @popey ok but since you are the mentor you can approve my task https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/task-instances/6425720735662080/
[14:22] <konrad11901> popey: ok, thanks anyway
[14:40] <omairqazi> @popey please take a look at my submission https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/task-instances/6425720735662080/
[15:10] <rai> hii evryone
[15:14] <omairqazi> @popey you replied on my task but did not approve it. does this mean that more work is needed https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/task-instances/6425720735662080/
[15:14]  * popey looks
[15:15] <popey> My mistake, sorry
[15:15] <popey> Now done
[15:16] <omairqazi> @popey thanks btw, how did you write this comment '* popey looks'
[15:16] <popey>  /me looks
[15:16] <popey> ^ like that
[15:17] <rai> hey popey what is the time there
[15:18] <rai> aa jaye
[15:19] <rai> suraj on your left there is written rai click on that and click query
[15:19] <surajsul> ok
[15:52] <m4sk1n> popey: so will there be lxd translation task as I suggested?
[15:52] <popey> I spoke to the lead maintainer and he was positive about it
[15:52] <popey> So yes, there will be, when we have a bit of time to make them
[16:03] <m4sk1n> kyrofa: sergiusens: (not sure who replied me last time), is my snapcraft PR ok now?
[16:05]  * omairqazi yo
[16:05] <omairqazi> ^ m
[16:40] <konrad11901> wxl: are you there?
[16:40] <wxl> yep konrad11901
[16:41] <omairqazi> hi
[16:41] <omairqazi> @popey please take a look https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/task-instances/6525033667100672/
[16:42] <popey> omairqazi: done :)
[16:42] <popey> (clicked the right button too!)
[16:43] <omairqazi> @popey LOL Thanks :)
[16:43] <konrad11901> wxl: I have two questions about these tests from Upgrade Lubuntu testsuite. First: which image should I use for Upgrade (Image) and Upgrade LTS (image) tests? Lubuntu Desktop daily or another one?
[16:44] <wxl> konrad11901: the purpose is to test upgrading from the most recent releases to the development image
[16:45] <wxl> konrad11901: so Upgrade is Artful → Bionic and Upgrade LTS is Xenial → Bionic
[16:45] <wxl> in both cases, you use the Bionic images. alternate or desktop doesn't matter.
[16:47] <konrad11901> ok, I'm sorry if some of my questions are silly, I just want to be sure about what I'm doing
[16:47] <wxl> no problem
[16:47] <wxl> i mean if you were wrong i'd figure it out XD
[16:47] <konrad11901> :D
[16:47] <wxl> i have my ways
[16:47] <wxl> :)
[16:48] <konrad11901> and the second question: I executed the command "grep Prompt= /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades" after upgrading from 16.04 to 18.04, and I got another result than expected (Prompt=normal). Should I file a bug?
[16:48] <wxl> that's curious indeed
[16:49] <wxl> was this a fresh install of xenial?
[16:49] <konrad11901> Yes, I checked this setting before upgrading, and it was LTS
[16:50] <konrad11901> *by the way
[16:50] <wxl> yes, please file a bug
[16:50] <konrad11901> ok
[16:50] <wxl> against update-manager
[16:50] <konrad11901> that's all I wanted to know, thanks wxl!
[16:51] <wxl> np. thank YOU!
[18:43] <kyrofa> Hey there folks
[18:47] <konrad11901> Hi kyrofa! Could you check my submission please? :)
[18:47] <kyrofa> konrad11901, just finished, almost there but you have a test failure now
[18:48] <konrad11901> yeah, I see, sorry for that! I'll fix it in a while
[18:52] <konrad11901> kyrofa: fixed
[18:55] <kyrofa> konrad11901, looks good, I'll have to wait for the tests pass to approve, but I suspect they will
[18:57] <konrad11901> I hope so, but considering that I'm a very lucky person... :D
[18:57] <konrad11901> who knows?
[20:52] <konrad11901> tsimonq2: I see that you've set the status of bug #1739715 (https://bugs.launchpad.net/lubuntu-next/+bug/1739715) to "Invalid", but it looks like this bug still occurs. Yes, you've given the correct credentials (lubuntu-next/blank password), but shouldn't it login automatically, without asking for username and password?
[20:53] <tsimonq2> konrad11901: Right, that's a known bug. :)
[20:53] <wxl> if it's a known bug, it shouldn't be invalid
[20:54] <wxl> (also fyi it's per se)
[20:55] <tsimonq2> wxl: right, but the bug reported is different
[20:55] <tsimonq2> Feel free to rename the bug and change the status, one of you :)
[20:56] <wxl> the purpose of bug reports is not to get rid of them but to turn them into useful information grr
[20:56] <konrad11901> Isn't the name already correct?
[20:56] <tsimonq2> wxl: Well that's what I'm saying
[20:56] <tsimonq2> konrad11901: Right, I think
[20:56] <wxl> tsimonq2: but that's not what you did, as a triager
[20:56] <wxl> tsimonq2: that said, YOU fix it
[20:57] <tsimonq2> wxl: Alright
[20:57] <tsimonq2> (later, just about to leave...
[20:57] <tsimonq2> )
[21:06] <m4sk1n> kyrofa: is my typehints PR ok now?
[21:07] <konrad11901> wxl: and by the way, I did the "Upgrade (image)" and "Upgrade LTS (image)" tests, and at the end of the upgrading process, I got a message saying that an error occured while restoring previously-installed applications. The upgrade itself succeed though. I was upgrading from clean installs of Lubuntu 16.04.3 and 17.10. Is that normal?
[21:08] <wxl> konrad11901: hm maybe, maybe not. look through /var/log especially for apt or dpkg things to see if you can find any idea where the problem was
[21:09] <konrad11901> ok, I'll check it
[22:00] <konrad11901> wxl: found some logs that may or may not be useful, if you can, please take a look at them in your free time: /var/log/installer/syslog: https://pastebin.com/5S5KQP51 (especially from line 1391) and /var/log/apt/history.log: https://pastebin.com/NkPtWhtR (from line 19). Thanks!
[22:00] <konrad11901> these are from 17.10 -> 18.04 upgrade
[23:18] <Abhisar> Hi
[23:20] <wxl> yello
[23:20] <m4sk1n> Hi
[23:54] <wxl> konrad11901: did you install the third party drivers when you did that install?
[23:56] <wxl> konrad11901: nevermind that. i think that's a non issue. can you please look to see if there's a dist-upgrade or update-manager log or folder in /var/log?
[23:57] <wxl> weird
[23:57] <wxl> i think i see the problem but i'm not sure why. i'm curious if other systems might have the same issue
[23:57] <wxl> meaning other flavours
[23:59] <wxl> the major problem as i see it (outside of some weird complaing from ubiquity which you may file a bug against; i've never noticed those before, but maybe that *IS* the case?) is:
[23:59] <wxl> Dec 29 21:33:19 lubuntu ubiquity: WARNING:root:can't add libv4l-0 (E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.)
[23:59] <wxl> Dec 29 21:33:19 lubuntu ubiquity: WARNING:root:can't add libvorbis0a (E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.)
[23:59] <wxl> Dec 29 21:33:19 lubuntu ubiquity: WARNING:root:can't add libvorbisenc2 (E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.)
[23:59] <wxl> three broken packages of some kind


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[17:53] <fujisan> no Triksie i am aware of my bad qualities, and Triksie i was messing with kubuntu with kde4 yesterday night, and even something as simple as editing a source.list file in nano was tedious for me i had to hammer flaccid with question, I wish to not do that again anything soon, since it is annoying for both myself and anyone trying to help me, i did try using google to help me out but all the google solutions weren't tailormade and increment
[17:54] <coreymon77> tebriel: maybe jsut try physically closing the program and reopening it
[17:55] <coreymon77> tebriel: (this is why i dont bother with wpa :P)'
[17:55] <Triksie> Nothing more I can suggest then, fujisan.
[17:55] <tebriel> i tried that and it just minimizes to the system tray and killall -9 doesn't work on it either, says no process killed
[17:55] <fujisan> i want help to be able to help myself Triksie that's all
[17:56] <fujisan> that's why I asked about those tutorials
[17:56] <coreymon77> tebriel: right click and quit doesnt work?
[17:56] <tebriel> doesn't have a right click button, is there a button-click for right click?
[17:56] <Triksie> I know what you mean :-). Sorry I couldn't be of help to you. Good luck in finding the right sources you are looking for!
[17:56] <coreymon77> tebriel: you cant right click your mouse?
[17:56] <tebriel> coreymon77: no mouse, touchpad, old apple laptop, no right click
[17:57] <fujisan> i did several google queries for some already, but as I mentioned previously, most are outdated or lacking an entry level low enough for me, not to trip over
[17:57] <coreymon77> tebriel: control click?
[17:57] <coreymon77> tebriel: alt click
[17:57] <tebriel> just opens the window, i've tried apple, alt, ctrl, and fn
[17:58] <coreymon77> i hate this program :P
[17:58] <coreymon77> tebriel: sudo apt-get install kwifimanager
[17:58] <bazhang> fujisan, what is the issue
[17:58] <tebriel> coreymon77: lol me too, this is why i switched to wlassistant because it actually recognized my wireless card as opposed to knetworkmanager which didn't even see it
[17:59] <coreymon77> tebriel: yet now wpa is causing you issues
[17:59] <fujisan> anyways bbiab going to boot into kubuntu now
[17:59] <coreymon77> tebriel: (which is why i never bother with it)
[17:59] <tebriel> coreymon77: no, i was able to connnect to the internet, through konsole, i could ping websites outside of my network, which is what i was saying, it was just that no application outside of konsole could reach the internet
[17:59] <coreymon77> hmmm
[17:59] <tebriel> so wpa was working fine
[18:00] <coreymon77> tebriel: do this, go back to network settings and give yourself a static ip
[18:00] <tebriel> okay
[18:00] <coreymon77> tebriel: and sudo apt-get install kwifimanager
[18:00] <tebriel> just finished installing that
[18:02] <tebriel> okay, gave myself a static ip, which at least updated iwconfig
[18:02] <tebriel> but i can't ping anything
[18:03] <coreymon77> tebriel: knm still giving you nothing/
[18:03] <tebriel> correct
[18:03] <coreymon77> tebriel: open kwifimanager
[18:03] <tebriel> it's open
[18:03] <coreymon77> settings config editor
[18:04] <tebriel> okay
[18:04] <coreymon77> tebriel: put in your stuff
[18:04] <coreymon77> make sure the interface is right
[18:04] <tebriel> looks like it's not going to take an ascii key
[18:04] <coreymon77> tebriel: you might converting it
[18:04] <coreymon77> it would make things much easier
[18:05] <coreymon77> mind*
[18:05] <tebriel> coreymon77: wow, that's a long key, let me reconnect ethernet so i don't have to type it from one computer to the other
[18:06] <fujisan> ok amarok is not playing music which codec do i need?
[18:08] <coreymon77> tebriel: oh and try this, iwlist scan
[18:08] <coreymon77> tebriel: pastebin the results
[18:09] <tebriel> hmm, no scan results
[18:09] <coreymon77> zero?
[18:09] <tebriel> literally : wlan0      No scan results
[18:10] <coreymon77> iwconfig
[18:10] <coreymon77> does wlan0 say radio on
[18:11] <tebriel> i dont' see radio
[18:11] <tebriel> http://pastebin.com/m4b39b75c
[18:12] <coreymon77> tebriel: does your laptop perchance have a wireless card on/off button
[18:12] <tebriel> nope
[18:12] <tebriel> always on
[18:12] <coreymon77> darn
[18:13] <coreymon77> maybe you could try opening network manager
[18:13] <tebriel> and i hate to restate this, but why was i able to access the internet through konsole earlier but not through any program?
[18:13] <coreymon77> no clue, tahts really wierd
[18:14] <tebriel> i'm gonna' go back to wlassistant and try to ssh to a box and see if that works
[18:14] <coreymon77> somethings wrong by dhcp not getting an ip
[18:15] <coreymon77> im really quite stumped
[18:15] <coreymon77> wpa always confuses me
[18:16] <tebriel> i think there's something deeper than wpa going on here, because it doesn't even list the interface in knetworkmanager nor does it let me connect to the unprotected wireless APs around me
[18:17] <coreymon77> tebriel: screw knetwork
[18:17] <coreymon77> tebriel: try using regular old network
[18:17] <tebriel> hold on, i'm back in wlassistant for a min trying to see if i can really access all the internet through konsole
[18:18] <tebriel> nevermind, it now just magically works
[18:18] <coreymon77> everything?
[18:18] <tebriel> wlassistant has me connected to my ap and i can browse the internet and ssh
[18:18] <tebriel> yeah, everything
[18:18] <coreymon77> hey!
[18:18] <coreymon77> we did !
[18:19] <coreymon77> it!
[18:19] <tebriel> sweet!  now if i could just reproduce that method somewhere lol!
[18:19] <coreymon77> well we must have done something
[18:20] <tebriel> yeah, who knows what it was though haha, thanks a lot for your help on this, i appreciate the time you spent helping me
[18:20] <fujisan> !mp3
[18:20] <coreymon77> no prob
[18:20] <coreymon77> tebriel: this demonstrates one of my biggest motos about linux
[18:20] <tebriel> which is?
[18:21] <coreymon77> tebriel: if something doesnt work, goof around and fiddle with random settings and the like until it magically does
[18:21] <coreymon77> usually works eventually
[18:21] <coreymon77> :P
[18:21] <tebriel> haha and this is why so many people stop trying to use linux :-D because they get tired of fiddling around, but then again, M$'s product takes a lot of fiddling too, maybe people are just lazy
[18:21] <fujisan>  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras <=-* not working for me?
[18:22] <fujisan> linux is for propellerheads
[18:22] <coreymon77> not really
[18:22] <fujisan> coreymon77:
[18:22] <coreymon77> it jsut doesnt whipe your ass for you
[18:22] <fujisan> :(
[18:22] <fujisan> coreymon77:
[18:22] <coreymon77> :P
[18:22] <fujisan> why isnt this working for me:  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:23] <coreymon77> what does it say
[18:23] <tebriel> coreymon77:  lol no, it sure doesn't
[18:23] <fujisan> coreymon77:  will that command give me mp3 codec
[18:24] <coreymon77> tebriel: people are used to wizzards whiping their asses with silk and then exploding every now and then, so when they get to linux, they dont know how to react
[18:24] <bazhang> fujisan, pastebin sources.list
[18:24] <bazhang> !paste | fujisan
[18:25] <tebriel> coreymon77: i'm just hoping that the bcm43xx driver has come far enough that I can use it at school, it had problems with disconnecting with all the repeaters around campus, my laptop is the only computer that doesn't typically run linux
[18:25] <fujisan> i am stranded on some package configuration screen, titled: Configuring sun-java6-bin, how do i OK this it's not responding to enter
[18:25] <bazhang> fujisan, paste those and give us the url
[18:25] <coreymon77> tebriel: meh
[18:25] <bazhang> fujisan, tab to ok then enter
[18:25] <fujisan> thanks
[18:26] <coreymon77> tebriel: when my wifi card died on my linux box, i did some research to find out what would actually work ootb before buying a new one
[18:26] <fujisan> bazhang:  it's moving already i forgot i had adept open
[18:26] <DarkriftX> anyone here use wine-doors?
[18:26] <tebriel> coreymon77: yeah, that's how i purchase my hardware now, but i don't get a choice in this laptop
[18:26] <coreymon77> tebriel: heres the funny story of the new wifi card
[18:26] <DarkriftX> i installed wine-doors and when i try to run it it tries to open adn then closes, any ideas?
[18:27] <coreymon77> tebriel: ill do it in a pm
[18:27] <tebriel> coreymon77: cool
[18:29] <bazhang> fujisan, is it working now?
[18:30] <fujisan> nope
[18:30] <fujisan> music wont play
[18:31] <bazhang> fujisan, is this a dual boot?
[18:31] <fujisan> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras <--- thats what i did
[18:31] <fujisan> no kubuntu via wubi
[18:31] <bazhang> oh wubi
[18:31] <bazhang> and what was the error fujisan
[18:32] <fujisan> files wont play
[18:32] <fujisan> no real errors
[18:32] <bazhang> that cant be right
[18:32] <bazhang> where are the files
[18:32] <fujisan> This is what Juk says:  cannot find demultiplexer plugin for the given media data
[18:32] <fujisan> on a harddrive
[18:32] <fujisan> partition
[18:32] <bazhang> better not to use wubi imo
[18:33] <fujisan> yeah well its all i can now my dvdrom is broken
[18:33] <fujisan> i have to make do with this
[18:33] <bazhang> then go to www.medibuntu.org and get w32codecs
[18:34] <fujisan> i got it already
[18:35] <fujisan> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras <--- see what is wrong here
[18:35] <fujisan> :/
[18:35] <fujisan> i forgot the k
[18:36] <logan> plop
[18:36] <fujisan> how do i install firefox3 with the new java improvements?
[18:36] <bazhang> fujisan, what version of kubuntu
[18:37] <fujisan> bazhang:  i have no idea, how can I tell though?
[18:37] <fujisan> the wubi installer fetched it
[18:37] <bazhang> !version | fujisan
[18:38] <fujisan> in  terminal?
[18:38] <Daisuke_Ido> fujisan: what processor've you got?
[18:38] <bazhang> yes
[18:38] <Daisuke_Ido> 32 bit, 64 bit?
[18:39] <fujisan> i have got an old amd2800xp+ which is 32 bit
[18:39] <fujisan> lol
[18:39] <fujisan> yeah
[18:39] <fujisan> i know
[18:39] <fujisan> its old
[18:39] <fujisan> hence why i am using linux
[18:39] <bazhang> !enter | fujisan
[18:39] <Daisuke_Ido> then i'd be 99% certain that you're using 8.04.1, 32 bit :)
[18:39] <fujisan> sorry bazhang
[18:39] <Daisuke_Ido> no worries, i've got a 633mhz beast sitting in my entertainment center :D
[18:39] <bazhang> fujisan, try again with the k
[18:40] <fujisan> i didnt use it as punctuation my mind is just fragmented
[18:40] <bazhang> no excuse
[18:40] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras fujisan
[18:41] <fujisan> Ubuntu 8.04.1 hardy
[18:41] <fujisan> yeah bazhang i know already
[18:41] <bazhang> ubuntu or kubuntu
[18:41] <fujisan> bazhang:  i actually figured that little one out myself
[18:41] <fujisan> kubuntu
[18:41] <bazhang> then do it.
[18:41] <fujisan> i already did
[18:41] <fujisan> before i even posted about it
[18:41] <bazhang> then get w32codecs
[18:42] <fujisan> why?
[18:42] <bazhang> mp3s
[18:42] <fujisan> i am already playing mp3s
[18:42] <bazhang> you said you could not fujisan
[18:43] <fujisan> bazhang:  true i couldnt but i said i found out what the mistake was
[18:43] <fujisan> i forgot the k
[18:43] <fujisan> after that it worked
[18:43] <bazhang> you never said that.
[18:43] <Daisuke_Ido> [13:34:28] <fujisan> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras <--- see what is wrong here
[18:43] <Daisuke_Ido> [13:34:31] <fujisan> :/
[18:43] <Daisuke_Ido> [13:34:35] <fujisan> i forgot the k
[18:43] <Daisuke_Ido> actually he did >_>
[18:43] <bazhang> never said it was working.
[18:43] <DarkriftX> how do i search for a package name for apt-get
[18:44] <fujisan> yeah true
[18:44] <DarkriftX> i was told to install dbus-python
[18:44] <Daisuke_Ido> DarkriftX: apt-cache search
[18:44] <DarkriftX> ahh, ty
[18:44] <fujisan> can anyone help me enable my gfx card maybe, i am scared to fiddle with it last time i tried it made kubuntu really unresponsive?
[18:44] <bazhang> what card
[18:44] <jonathan_> hello!
[18:44] <fujisan> Ati Radeon 9600 xt
[18:45] <bazhang> does wubi even allow 3d?
[18:45] <jonathan_> i've a short and easy question (with a complex solution i suppose, lite it's every time with Kubuntu :D)
[18:45] <fujisan> yeah bazhang
[18:45] <fujisan> ubuntu had compiz full enabled via wubi
[18:45] <jonathan_> i like the kde 4 theme very much (seen it in several kde 4 applications i'm running withing kde 3.5.9)
[18:45] <fujisan> wubi doesnt limit what you can do as far as i know
[18:46] <jonathan_> is there a possibility to apply the theme for whole kde 3.5.9?
[18:46] <bazhang> !ati
[18:46] <Daisuke_Ido> bazhang: can't imagine why it wouldn't.  it's a full install (mounted loopback), so there's no reason it shouldn't have hardware access.  it might be a little slower being located on a filesystem within a filesystem, but nothing so bad as running in a VM
[18:46] <bazhang> thanks Daisuke_Ido :)
[18:46] <bazhang> fujisan, see above
[18:46] <fujisan> yeah thanks
[18:46] <bazhang> np
[18:47] <logan> LINUX EN FORCE
[18:47] <fujisan> i am scared of the proprietary ati drivers though
[18:47] <fujisan> how can i use the opensource ones?
[18:47] <logan> do you speak french here?
[18:47] <bazhang> !fr
[18:47] <bazhang> logan ^^
[18:47] <logan> tnx =D
[18:48] <logan> sorry ^
[18:48] <logan> ^^*
[18:48] <logan> bazhang tnx :)
[18:48] <bazhang> logan, bonne chance :)
[18:49] <fujisan> bazhang:  there are no instruction on that page for ubuntu hardy
[18:49] <DarkriftX> how do i stop links from opening in konq (i already set my default webbrowser to firefox)
[18:49] <fujisan> only older
[18:49] <jonathan_> no ideas?
[18:49] <bazhang> fujisan, what about hardware drivers
[18:49] <fujisan> i mean kubuntu*
[18:50] <DarkriftX> nvm, uninstalled konq and that worked
[18:50] <Daisuke_Ido> fujisan: In Kubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron use the Hardware Drivers Manager from K Menu->System.
[18:50] <Daisuke_Ido> from the page linked to
[18:51] <fujisan> yeah Daisuke_Ido i was doing that already seems easier
[18:51] <fujisan> so is it enabled now that i checkmarked enabled, ?
[18:52] <fujisan> i mean do i need to reboot or enable other settings to use the 3d
[18:52] <fujisan> i checkmarked the enabled and it downloaded a bunch of stuff, but the status is still set to not in use
[18:53] <cryingtux> hello
[18:55] <jonathan_> any ideas yet?? :(
[18:57] <cryingtux> anybody knows how to fix broken grub on kubuntu?
[18:57] <cryingtux> my grub menu.lst is gone and reinstalling grub doesnt work
[18:58] <fujisan> so is it possible to get the rotating cube with kubuntu with kde4?
[18:58] <fujisan> i dont see a cubes option in desktop effects
[19:03] <fujisan> :/
[19:03] <fujisan> so compiz for kde4 doesnt allow for a cube?
[19:04] <jonathan_> are there any other window managers than kwin and are they better in your oppinion
[19:04] <jonathan_> ??
[19:05] <asobi> what's the hot key to switch between desktops, using kde?
[19:05] <Daisuke_Ido> there are a lot of window managers, though using them with kde is not usually recommended, as kwin is tied very closely to the rest of the desktop.  it would be like trying to use kwin with gnome.  sure it'll work, but it won't be a good combination
[19:06] <jonathan_> what's about dekorator, it is one to, isn't it? i think it's designed for kde too??
[19:07] <jonathan_> no sorry
[19:07] <jonathan_> was bullshit ;)
[19:31] <FuriousGeorge> hey all
[19:32] <sloik> Greetings
[19:32] <FuriousGeorge> how difficult does it sound to copy a working kubuntu install to another server, modify the kernel so mounting nfs etc is built in, and boot it from nfs off the other server
[19:33] <FuriousGeorge> im trying to set up a diskless node...  its almost working with gentoo as the client os, and im wondering if i could use kubuntu on the client instead
[19:34] <FuriousGeorge> perhaps i could just take a .config from cubuntu (zcat /proc/config.gz >> .config) build it in gentoo, and just copy it over the kernel provided by kubuntu...  then i would just need to modify the fstab so it boots from where i want, right?
[19:38] <denis_> !de
[19:40] <DaskreecH> Sixofour|Sleep: Lets try it over here
[19:40] <Sixofour|Sleep> lol
[19:40] <Sixofour|Sleep> so
[19:40] <Sixofour|Sleep> right click - delete doesn't work
[19:40] <DaskreecH> right so you delete the file and it doesn't exist ?
[19:40] <Sixofour|Sleep> yep
[19:40] <DaskreecH> press F5 to ensure it really is there
[19:41] <DaskreecH> I've had the view in dolphin lag on me once
[19:41] <Sixofour|Sleep> its there
[19:41] <DaskreecH> When you hover over it does it get a little + in the corner ?
[19:42] <Sixofour|Sleep> the corner of what?
[19:42] <Sixofour|Sleep> i see no + anywhere
[19:42] <DaskreecH> Of the file
[19:42] <DaskreecH> ok fine highlight the file and just press the delete button
[19:42] <Sixofour|Sleep> nope
[19:43] <Sixofour|Sleep> The file or folder /root/msl/mslctqsorted.rar does not exist.
[19:43] <DaskreecH> Ok
[19:43] <DaskreecH> Lets make sure we are in the right location
[19:44] <DaskreecH> click on Root to get back to the top of the file structure
[19:44] <Sixofour|Sleep> crono@Nekron:/root/msl$ ls
[19:44] <Sixofour|Sleep> mslctqsorted  mslctqsorted.rar
[19:44] <Sixofour|Sleep> the rar is rbigth rgeen, th other is blue
[19:44] <Sixofour|Sleep> bright green*
[19:44] <leonardo> aeee alguem pode me ajudar?
[19:45] <DaskreecH> !br
[19:45] <Sixofour|Sleep> whats the konsole delete commmand?
[19:45] <DaskreecH> rm
[19:45] <leonardo> nao to conseguindo atualizar o NG ta dando erro
[19:45] <DaskreecH> You will have to sudo it since it's in /root
[19:45] <leonardo> da erro quandfo vou usar o root
[19:45] <Sixofour|Sleep> all gone
[19:45] <Sixofour|Sleep> :D
[19:45] <leonardo> quando eu coloco o comando su e a senha da senha invalida
[19:47] <leonardo> alguem aki
[19:48] <rickest> !.pr
[19:48] <rickest> !/.br
[19:49] <rickest> !.es
[20:01] <fujisan> how can i use the gnome add/remove in kubuntu?
[20:02] <DaskreecH> fujisan: run synaptic
[20:02] <fujisan> what is the package name DaskreecH?
[20:02] <fujisan> i dont know what it is called exactly
[20:03] <DaskreecH> synaptic
[20:03] <fujisan> no i mean the GUI one
[20:04] <DaskreecH> That is the GUI one
[20:04] <DaskreecH> install it
[20:04] <aziz> fujisan: adept_manager
[20:04] <fujisan> k thanks
[20:04] <aziz> synaptic is for gnome, can be installed for kubuntu as well though
[20:05] <fujisan> adept manager is already installed aziz i meant he gnome one
[20:05] <fujisan> i have synaptic installed already gnome has a gui add and remove one
[20:05] <fujisan> that i really like
[20:06] <matias> haha
[20:06] <matias> hello??
[20:07] <matias> who is in there?
[20:07] <DaskreecH> !hi
[20:07] <matias> what is this?
[20:07] <fujisan> how come all gtk apps look so hideous in kde4?
[20:07] <matias> this is my first time here
[20:07] <matias> idk
[20:07] <matias> =(
[20:08] <DaskreecH> fujisan: install kde4-style-qtcurve and qt-gtk-engine-kde4
[20:08] <DaskreecH> matias: Welcome
[20:08] <matias> thanks
[20:08] <fujisan> thanks DaskreecH
[20:08] <matias> =)
[20:10] <tangirehv> hi
[20:10] <DaskreecH> !hi
[20:10] <tangirehv> any news?
[20:11] <fujisan> how come firefox is gtk?
[20:11] <DaskreecH> Well the sun came up so I would guess yes News has occured
[20:11] <DaskreecH> fujisan: Cause that's what they coded it in
[20:12] <tangirehv> any news about portable apps on kubuntu?
[20:12] <DaskreecH> Portable apps ?
[20:12] <fujisan> DaskreecH: fujisan: install kde4-style-qtcurve and qt-gtk-engine-kde4 <--- DaskreecH i tried these with sudo ap-get install kde4-style-gtcurve , didnt work doesnt it need to be gtkcurve?
[20:12] <fujisan> :/
[20:12] <fujisan> i dunno
[20:12]  * DaskreecH shrugs.
[20:12] <fujisan> sorry
[20:12] <DaskreecH> I think that curve works both ways
[20:12] <fujisan> i am a big NEWB
[20:13] <DaskreecH> It's a shared style
[20:13] <DaskreecH> so there is a gtkone and a qtone
[20:13] <DaskreecH> as I understand it
[20:13] <tangirehv> yes.. like sudo run firefox ?
[20:13] <fujisan> install via konsole?
[20:14] <fujisan> ok nvm thanks
[20:14] <tangirehv> no install, just run
[20:15] <DaskreecH> tangirehv: Umm
[20:15] <fujisan> nstall kde4-style-qtcurve and qt-gtk-engine-kde4
[20:15] <DaskreecH> tangirehv: you can build those if you like. All open source applications should be able to do that
[20:15] <fujisan> E: Couldn't find package qt-gtk-engine-kde4 <-- i get this error?
[20:15] <DaskreecH> you may notice that on Windows it's almost all open source applications that are portable
[20:15] <xjohnthomasx> hiiiiiiiii, is anyone there an expert in kde and kubuntu who can help me get my dual head setup to work? i've tried all of the man pages and wiki pages and bulletin board systems.. and there is no straight, single answer to my issues... i keep running into problems that no one knows answers to............ and i need help from the beginning of it. i've plugged the monitor in to both power and to the second graphic output of the cpu..
[20:15] <xjohnthomasx> and that is it now.... pleasseeeeeeeee!!!!!!
[20:16] <DaskreecH> !dualhead
[20:16] <tangirehv> yes. i have notices.. why can't it be on kubuntu?
[20:16] <DaskreecH> xjohnthomasx: Did you read that ?^^^
[20:16] <tangirehv> noticed*
[20:16] <DaskreecH> tangirehv: You can just build them yourself
[20:16] <DaskreecH> ./configure --prefix=~/portable/firefox
[20:17] <tangirehv> wtf?
[20:17] <DaskreecH> or ~/portable/whatever
[20:17] <xjohnthomasx> DaskreecH: yes
[20:17] <DaskreecH> tangirehv: when you compile the software you just add a --prefix=/path/todir
[20:17] <Sixofour|Sleep> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[20:17] <Sixofour|Sleep> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[20:17] <DaskreecH> Then you can move that around where ever you want
[20:17] <Sixofour|Sleep> ?
[20:18] <DaskreecH> Sixofour|Sleep: You have adept open ?
[20:18] <Sixofour|Sleep> nope
[20:18] <tangirehv> well.. but will it then run from it own directory?
[20:18] <Sixofour|Sleep> atleast i don't think i do
[20:18] <tangirehv> and saves its prefs in app dir
[20:18] <DaskreecH> !adeptfix | Sixofour|Sleep Try this
[20:18] <Sixofour|Sleep> i have no windows cept twerminal and chatzilla
[20:18] <DaskreecH> tangirehv: That's the idea
[20:19] <Sixofour|Sleep> dpkg: --configure --pending does not take any non-option arguments
[20:19] <tangirehv> that would be great
[20:19] <tangirehv> but how do i compile?
[20:19] <Sixofour|Sleep> i sued sudo apt-get install wine btw..thats where the error came from
[20:19] <Sixofour|Sleep> used
[20:20] <Sixofour|Sleep> oh, let me try desk idea
[20:20] <primet> hi
[20:20] <Sixofour|Sleep> DaskreecH:
[20:20] <primet> need some help here:
[20:20] <DaskreecH> tangirehv: apt-get source appname
[20:20] <Sixofour|Sleep> !adept fix event not found
[20:20] <DaskreecH> !adept fix
[20:20] <Sixofour|Sleep> adeptfix*
[20:20] <primet> I'm trying to use Gnome-do with <Alt>space key, I set this binding in gconf-editor as the site says
[20:20] <Sixofour|Sleep> i did that
[20:20] <fujisan> E: Couldn't find package qt-gtk-engine-kde4 <-- i get this error, help me please ?
[20:20] <primet> but when launching gnome-do i get a 'cannot set binding' error message
[20:20] <Sixofour|Sleep> did you read the error it gave me?
[20:20] <DaskreecH> primet: are you doing this in KDE ?
[20:21] <Sixofour|Sleep> dpkg: --configure --pending does not take any non-option arguments
[20:21] <primet> looks like <alt>space is somehow already bound
[20:21] <primet> dask: sure
[20:21] <primet> when i press alt-space, i get a kind of popup-menu
[20:21] <mschiff> does anybody still have the korganizer 3.5.9 deb for hardy?
[20:21] <DaskreecH> primet: It is. Gconfeditor doesn't work in KDE
[20:21] <primet> but I don't know how to remove it so I can free the alt-space key
[20:21] <mschiff> my 3.5.10 ist constanlty crashing :-(
[20:21] <DaskreecH> As it's name indicates it configures Gnome
[20:21] <DaskreecH> primet: Try katapult
[20:21] <primet> and how do I remove the kde alt-space  binding ?
[20:21] <primet> dask: right and wrong
[20:22] <DaskreecH> Sixofour|Sleep: Did the fuser command work ?
[20:22] <primet> dask: before I switched to kubuntu hardy, gnome-do was properly working with my binding
[20:22] <fujisan>  my sound stopped working while it worked before after i installed the restricted drivers for kubuntu, any help?
[20:22] <Sixofour|Sleep> i got everything working, but i did apt-get -f install and it installed some java stuff, but i can't get out of tbhe license agreement [can't click ok..lol]
[20:22] <DaskreecH> primet: Does katapult come up when you press Alt+space ?
[20:22] <primet> primet: nope, it doesn't work either
[20:22] <DaskreecH> Sixofour|Sleep: No clicking
[20:22] <DaskreecH> use the keyboard
[20:23] <primet> primet: it only shows the "window "popup menu
[20:23] <DaskreecH> primet: Is it runing ?
[20:23] <Sixofour|Sleep> keybaord doesn't have an "ok" button
[20:23] <tangirehv> how do i edit the source to make firefox portable?
[20:23] <Sixofour|Sleep> no other keys do anything
[20:23] <primet> dask: I launched it by typing "katapult" and it showed
[20:23] <Sixofour|Sleep> enter or anything
[20:23] <DaskreecH> Sixofour|Sleep: It has a spacebar
[20:23] <Sixofour|Sleep> which does nothing
[20:24] <DaskreecH> primet: Press Ctrl+C to configure it
[20:24] <primet> dask: do you have an idea on how I could remove that seemingly useless alt+space shortcut, it looks like I can't do it from the system settings (no keyboard shortcut assinged to the combination)
[20:24] <DaskreecH> Sixofour|Sleep: Press tab then space
[20:24] <Sixofour|Sleep> lol
[20:24] <DaskreecH> primet: It's held by katapult
[20:24] <Sixofour|Sleep> what wass that about a steep learning curve?
[20:24] <primet> dask: I'd rather use gnome-do, actually, since I'm used to it
[20:24] <primet> dask: I know for sure that it *can* work
[20:24] <primet> dask; if i set the shortcut as <Control>space in gconf-editor
[20:24] <DaskreecH> Sixofour|Sleep: It works the same way for all TUIs
[20:25] <primet> dask: it works (under KDE)
[20:25] <Sixofour|Sleep> i usually hit page down untill it highlights the ok
[20:25] <DaskreecH> primet: I'm telling you that the alt+space is held by katapult
[20:25] <primet> dask: the problem is with that <Alt>space shortcut, but I don't  know where  it is   set, do you ?
[20:25] <Sixofour|Sleep> well, in dos i did
[20:25] <DaskreecH> Get katapult to pop up
[20:25] <xjohnthomasx> DaskreecH: was that it? can you help more?
[20:25] <DaskreecH>  Press Ctrl+C
[20:25] <Sixofour|Sleep> i enver encoutned this in linux
[20:25] <DaskreecH>  then yo ucan removeit or change it
[20:25] <DaskreecH> !xinerama
[20:25] <DaskreecH> xjohnthomasx: That one? ^^^ :-)
[20:25] <primet> dask: it is not, because alt+space shows a default window popup menu, and I usually don't launch katapult (since I don't use it)
[20:25] <DaskreecH> xjohnthomasx: I don't actually know myself
[20:26] <primet> dask: I even tried removing katapult from the system
[20:26] <DaskreecH> xjohnthomasx: #kde might be able to get you better helpers
[20:26] <primet> dask: it would not work anyway
[20:26] <DaskreecH> primet: you said you got katapult to pop up?
[20:26] <primet> DaskreecH: yes, by typing "katapult "  in a shell
[20:27] <DaskreecH> primet: do that then press ctrl=C
[20:27] <primet> DaskreecH: but anyway, I apt-get remove'd it ( katapult)
[20:27] <DaskreecH> Ctrl+C
[20:27] <DaskreecH> oh
[20:27] <DaskreecH> umm
[20:27] <DaskreecH> logging out and in should work then I think
[20:27] <primet> 'kay, I'll try then =)
[20:27] <primet> see you
[20:32] <Sixofour|Sleep> whats the command to seach apt-get?
[20:32] <Sixofour|Sleep> sudo apt-get ???? msn
[20:32] <DaskreecH> Sixofour|Sleep: apt-cache search msn
[20:32] <DaskreecH> Proabably want a apt-cache search msn | less
[20:33] <DaskreecH> That will allow you to read it slower
[20:33] <DaskreecH> You can leave the pager with q
[20:33] <Sixofour|Sleep> i suppose pidgin is nice, but i need a client that has working file transfersn with windows live messenger :/
[20:33] <DaskreecH> amsn or kmess are your two best bets
[20:34] <Sixofour|Sleep> is there a universal command that shows how much hard disk i have left?
[20:34] <klerfayt> df -H
[20:35] <DaskreecH> df -h
[20:35] <DaskreecH> though -H might work as well
[20:35] <Sixofour|Sleep> is there another browser besides dolphin?
[20:36] <DaskreecH> Konqueror
[20:36] <Sixofour|Sleep> that is default in kubuntu
[20:36] <Sixofour|Sleep> sudo konqueror
[20:36] <Sixofour|Sleep> erps
[20:36] <DaskreecH> kdesudo
[20:36] <Sixofour|Sleep> not foudn lol
[20:36] <Sixofour|Sleep> sudo works
[20:37] <Sixofour|Sleep> i just used it to open firefox
[20:37] <Sixofour|Sleep> sudo firefox
[20:37] <DaskreecH> Sixofour|Sleep: can you type /usr/lib/kde4/bin/kdesudo
[20:37] <DaskreecH> !gksudo
[20:37] <DaskreecH> !kdesudo
[20:38] <Sixofour|Sleep> oh crap
[20:38] <Sixofour|Sleep> yeah
[20:38]  * Sixofour|Sleep stops using sudo
[20:39] <Sixofour|Sleep> kdesudo: konqeuror: command not found
[20:40] <DaskreecH> Sixofour|Sleep: kdesudo is slightly broken in hardy
[20:40] <Sixofour|Sleep> slightly?
[20:40] <DaskreecH> slightly
[20:40] <Sixofour|Sleep> kdesudo doesn't exist in hardy
[20:41] <DaskreecH> Did you try it with the path that I gave you above ?
[20:41] <petros> kdesu
[20:41] <Sixofour|Sleep> no command ive ever done with it has worked
[20:41] <Sixofour|Sleep> why would i want to open kdesudo?
[20:41] <Sixofour|Sleep> i need the line to konqeuror
[20:41] <petros> if you want to open a gui app as root
[20:42] <fujisan> Hello, i need some help, my amarok refuses to play mp3 all of a sudden, i get this error, too many errors encountered in playlist. Playback stopped
[20:42] <petros> you need to use gksu/kdesu to get proper env variables
[20:42] <Guest14863> hi
[20:42] <DaskreecH> /usr/lib/kde4/bin/kdesudo  /usr/lib/kde4/bin/konqueror
[20:42] <DaskreecH> I'm sure there is a quick way to fix that
[20:42] <petros> kdesu konqueror works for me on hardy 3.5.10
[20:42] <Sixofour|Sleep> crono@Nekron:~$ kdesu konqeuror
[20:42] <Sixofour|Sleep> sudo: konqeuror: command not found
[20:42] <DaskreecH> I've just never needed to tbe root that much
[20:42] <Sixofour|Sleep> i have 4.08
[20:43] <petros> you have typoed
[20:43] <DaskreecH> Sixofour|Sleep: What does $(which konqueror) say ?
[20:43] <petros> konqueror
[20:43] <petros> not konqeuror
[20:43] <Sixofour|Sleep> i would open as regular, but i fear something retarded will happen, like not being able to download view pron or use flash will happen
[20:43] <Sixofour|Sleep> er
[20:44] <Sixofour|Sleep> i don't even remember why i wanted to open konqueror now
[20:44] <petros> :)
[20:44] <Sixofour|Sleep> oh, to see if mp3 works
[20:44] <Sixofour|Sleep> i got the restricted extras
[20:44] <Sixofour|Sleep> it should work
[20:44] <DaskreecH> Sixofour|Sleep: If you have juk it should work
[20:44] <DaskreecH> just run juk
[20:45] <Sixofour|Sleep> so basicly, sudo app works, but kdesu/kdesudo both need the fille program path?
[20:45] <Sixofour|Sleep> juk?
[20:45] <DaskreecH> Sixofour|Sleep: They shouldn't it's just a temporary bug in KDE4 for hardy
[20:45] <DaskreecH> Sixofour|Sleep: lightweight Jukebox
[20:46] <Sixofour|Sleep> infact ive not heard a single sound in kubuntu yet
[20:46] <Sixofour|Sleep> only PC speaker..which sacres me
[20:47] <Sixofour|Sleep> sound works !
[20:47] <DaskreecH> Sixofour|Sleep: be greatful
[20:47] <Sixofour|Sleep> sound not working is bad, because they stopped making sound drivers in 84
[20:47] <Sixofour|Sleep> 1984*
[20:47] <DaskreecH> 4.0.0 sung hymns everytime you moved the mouse
[20:47] <DaskreecH> it was annoying
[20:47] <Sixofour|Sleep> wtf really?
[20:48] <DaskreecH> Sixofour|Sleep: no
[20:48] <Sixofour|Sleep> ok, what do i do when terminal stops at a blank line..no root or anything?
[20:48] <DaskreecH> but it made sound on opening any window on closing them on minimize on resize
[20:48] <DaskreecH> Argh
[20:48] <DaskreecH> Annoying
[20:48] <DaskreecH> Sixofour|Sleep: what did you type before it?
[20:49] <Sixofour|Sleep> juk
[20:49] <Sixofour|Sleep> i got it though
[20:49] <DaskreecH> umm
[20:49] <DaskreecH> type clear
[20:49] <Sixofour|Sleep> i just hit enter
[20:49] <DaskreecH> yeah that would work too
[20:50] <Sixofour|Sleep> i have 110 freinds on amsn o.O
[20:50] <Sixofour|Sleep> 60% of them are musicians
[20:50] <DaskreecH> and that's why I never login to msn
[20:50] <Sixofour|Sleep> i use msn hourly
[20:50] <Sixofour|Sleep> for transmitting music projects and such
[20:50] <Sixofour|Sleep> clips samples etc etc
[20:52] <DaskreecH> well let me know if amsn works
[20:52] <DaskreecH> they put a lot of work into that project
[20:52] <Sixofour|Sleep> works great, about to see if file transfers work
[20:52] <Sixofour|Sleep> not too worried about voice or voiceclips
[20:53] <Sixofour|Sleep> ok, juk is very featureless, is there a better player?..winamp for linux?
[20:53] <Sixofour|Sleep> i can't even loop a song
[20:56] <DaskreecH> Sixofour|Sleep: Lightweight :)
[20:56] <DaskreecH> Sixofour|Sleep: Amarok whips juk (and winamp (and itunes( And.. well just about everything))) butt
[20:57] <Sixofour|Sleep> sudo apt-get Amarok?
[20:57] <Sixofour|Sleep> sudo apt-get install Amarok?
[20:57] <Sixofour|Sleep> :D
[20:57] <Sixofour|Sleep> i need terminal in my chatzilla
[20:57] <Sixofour|Sleep> it will make me feel leet
[20:58] <DaskreecH> Sixofour|Sleep: It's not quite ready yet
[20:58] <DaskreecH> You can install it for kde3 or the new beta for kde4
[20:58] <wad> I think my USB flash drive is all messed up. I can't see it anymore when I mount. The only place it shows up is under lsusb. How can I tell which device it is? I think I need to reformat it.
[20:58] <DaskreecH> It's pretty usable for KDe4
[20:58] <Sixofour|Sleep> is there a hotkey for terminal?
[20:59] <Sixofour|Sleep> one button i can hit to bring it up
[20:59] <DaskreecH> wad: It will pop up as a /dev/sdN device
[20:59]  * wad looks
[20:59] <DaskreecH> Sixofour|Sleep: sudo apt-get install yakuake-kde4
[20:59] <Sixofour|Sleep> what is that?
[20:59] <DaskreecH> wad: Take it out do a ls /dev/sd*
[20:59]  * wad tries it
[20:59] <DaskreecH> then plugin it in and ls again
[21:00] <DaskreecH> Sixofour|Sleep: a one button terminal
[21:00] <wad> Nope. Doesn't show up. sda is my hard drive.
[21:00] <vincent_> hi !
[21:00] <wad> with partitions 1 2 3 5
[21:00] <DaskreecH> Hrmm
[21:00] <wad> It was showing up on the kubuntu desktop when I'd plug it in.
[21:00] <DaskreecH> it was?
[21:01] <wad> Yes.
[21:01] <DaskreecH> what does mount say ?
[21:01] <DaskreecH> would be mounted under /media
[21:01] <wad> But I yanked it out when I couldn't abort a copy.
[21:01] <wad> It used to show up under /media/disk
[21:01] <DaskreecH> Sixofour|Sleep: Let me know when you install
[21:01] <wad> But only after I double-clicked the desktop icon and opened it with dolphin.
[21:02] <wad> Now, since it won't show up on the desktop, I can't get it to mount at all.
[21:02] <Sixofour|Sleep> i didn't get it
[21:02]  * wad runs mount
[21:02] <sunshine> ?
[21:02] <Sixofour|Sleep> i'm trying to wrap my brain around wine
[21:03] <wad> The mount command doesn't seem to show it at all. Which I expect, since I don't believe it's mounted.
[21:03] <DaskreecH> Sixofour|Sleep: That'll make you tipsy
[21:03] <wad> I can only see it with lsusb: Bus 007 Device 012: ID 0781:5151 SanDisk Corp. Cruzer Micro 256/512MB Flash Drive
[21:04] <wad> Is there anything I can do with that information? I'd like to nuke the filesystem, and reformat it.
[21:04] <wad> But I need to run fdisk, and I don't know which device to use.
[21:06] <wad> Ah, I found it! I did a "find /dev > /1" then "find /dev > /2" then "diff /1 /2"
[21:06] <wad> :-D
[21:08] <wad> I found this: /dev/bus/usb/007
[21:08] <wad> There are two files in there: 001 and 013
[21:08] <wad> 013 shows up when I plug in.
[21:09] <DaskreecH> Of course
[21:09] <DaskreecH> Device 012
[21:09] <wad> So.... I can't feed that file to fdisk.
[21:09] <wad> Hmm, still stuck.
[21:09] <wad> Maybe if I boot to windows.
[21:10]  * wad boots to windows.
[21:10] <Sixofour|Sleep> is it possiable to get kubuntu to see my volume keys on my keyboard?
[21:11] <Sixofour|Sleep> i'm rpobably asking for too much heh
[21:13] <DaskreecH> Sixofour|Sleep: Normally does
[21:13] <DaskreecH> I've never seen them not work
[21:17] <Sixofour|Sleep> mine doesn't
[21:17] <Sixofour|Sleep> its a Saitek glowwy keyboard [yeah, it glows, i'ma hacker]
[21:17] <Sixofour|Sleep> and the volume keys do nothing
[21:17] <Sixofour|Sleep> apparently
[21:20] <DaskreecH> !info kmilo
[21:20] <DaskreecH> !info kmilo-kde4
[21:23] <Sixofour|Sleep> here is a question, generally, how does one get a shortcut onto the desktop, and can i make a shortcut connect to a terminal command?
[21:23] <Sixofour|Sleep> my desktop is too clean, its despicable
[21:24] <DaskreecH> Sixofour|Sleep: use the cashew in the upper right corner
[21:24] <DaskreecH> feel free to liter your desktop with comics clocks and krap
[21:25] <Sixofour|Sleep> i will
[21:26] <Sixofour|Sleep> and i still want my 300x420 icons
[21:26] <Sixofour|Sleep> or resizable icons
[21:29] <khaije1> is there a seperate channel for mythbuntu questions?
[21:30] <Sixofour|Sleep> type /join #mythbuntu and see
[21:31] <Sixofour|Sleep> DaskreecH:  i used the cashew..it added an icon..icnon does nothing o.O
[21:31] <Sixofour|Sleep> i sdee no option for giveing it an action
[21:31] <carlos_> hello all i have a little problem with my external hdd which has some virus. To protect my MS installation i'm trying to delete the virus from kubuntu using clamAv but i want to update the virus database. Someone can tell me how to do this update please?  I can see it under Windows, but under Linux, it no longer shows up. I just want to nuke the partition and reformat it. I can see it under lsusb, and in /dev/bus/usb/007/002 but noplace else. Help me?
[21:44] <eamon> so ahh how do i get flash to work on ubuntu
[21:44] <trappist> !flash
[21:45] <DaskreecH> eamon: Read that URL above ^^^
[21:46] <eamon> oh thanks sorry
[21:47] <Glady> I had big troubles with flash
[21:47] <Glady> eventually it resolved by itself
[21:47] <DaskreecH> eamon: No problem
[21:47] <Glady> it\s a shame eamon i dont remember how
[21:47] <Glady> sorry
[21:48] <Sixofour|Sleep> i just had the kubuntu equivelent of.. a bluescreen
[21:48] <Sixofour|Sleep> :(
[21:49] <Sixofour|Sleep> What does it mean when the screen goes black in you see only a white blicnking underscore?
[21:49] <Sixofour|Sleep> blinking
[21:49] <Glady> maybe u are in grub
[21:49] <starenka> fool' day?
[21:49] <DaskreecH> Sixofour|Sleep: Probably jumped a terminal
[21:49] <Sixofour|Sleep> everything froze at first
[21:50] <DaskreecH> Ah
[21:50] <DaskreecH> X got annoyed
[21:50] <starenka> ctrl alt backspace
[21:51] <DaskreecH> Sixofour|Sleep: Don't press that now
[21:51] <Sixofour|Sleep> i disabled that
[21:51] <DaskreecH> That forcibly ends your X session
[21:51] <Sixofour|Sleep> i hit ctrl+alt+f12
[21:51] <Sixofour|Sleep> screen went black
[21:51] <Sixofour|Sleep> then i think f9 brought it back
[21:51] <Sixofour|Sleep> juist now lol
[21:51] <starenka> hit ctrl alt f7 and you will get back
[21:51] <DaskreecH> Sixofour|Sleep: Yeah next time you do that press ctrl+Alt+F7
[21:51] <DaskreecH> Yo ucan try it now if you like
[21:51] <Sixofour|Sleep> pressing random alt commands is not wise in kubuntu
[21:51] <DaskreecH> Ha ha
[21:52] <DaskreecH> Sixofour|Sleep: Alt+Ctrl+Fn will put you on an independent terminal
[21:52] <starenka> you just switched sessions... default is on f7
[21:52] <DaskreecH> F7 is the GUI
[21:52] <DaskreecH> Default is technically F1 :)
[21:52] <DaskreecH> But X takes F7
[21:52] <starenka> well... asi you said... default GUI
[21:53] <starenka> :x
[21:55]  * DaskreecH pokes Sixofour|Sleep
[21:55]  * Sixofour|Sleep pokes DaskreecH
[21:56] <DaskreecH> I wondered if you got lost again
[21:56] <DaskreecH> Sixofour|Sleep: Did you get to try it?
[21:57] <lars__> sup
[21:59] <slow-motion> hi
[22:00] <DaskreecH> !hi
[22:01] <starenka> !bye
[22:01] <starenka> :))
[22:02] <DaskreecH> you would hope thats random :)
[22:02] <Sixofour|Sleep> DaskreecH:  try what?
[22:02] <coreymon77> !botsnack
[22:03] <Sixofour|Sleep> Can i rotate mybackground 90 degrees?
[22:03] <DaskreecH> Sixofour|Sleep: alt+ctrl+F12 then Alt+ctrl+F7
[22:03] <Sixofour|Sleep> yes
[22:05] <Sixofour|Sleep> DaskreecH:  winehq is dead, do you know how to use wine?
[22:06] <coreymon77> how is wine dead?
[22:07] <coreymon77> wine just reached 1.0 stable
[22:07] <starenka> coreymon77: beer rules :))
[22:07] <coreymon77> think about that
[22:07] <favro> I think he meant #wine
[22:07] <coreymon77> the wine project has been going years
[22:08] <coreymon77> and they jsut got to 1.0 now
[22:08] <coreymon77> 15 years of devel and 1.0 was release
[22:08] <coreymon77> d
[22:09] <saapad> hello
[22:10] <saapad> I'm using KDE4, and trying to disable Kwin and instead use Compiz as my window decorator
[22:10] <TimS> I have 20gig of files I need to stick on to DVDs, is it possible to autmatically split the files up on to DVDs in linux? Are there any burning programs that will do this for me?
[22:10] <saapad> Apparently, I can do this with a drop-down menu in the Session Manager in System Settings
[22:10] <saapad> The problem is: there is no drop-down menu!
[22:10] <favro> saapad:  KDE 4 support in #kubuntu-kde4
[22:10] <saapad> gotcha
[22:10] <favro> :)
[22:11] <Sixofour|Sleep> kde froze again
[22:22] <Sixofour|Sleep> and it froze again
[22:22] <Sixofour|Sleep> wow, is there really no way to optimize kde?
[22:23] <Sixofour|Sleep> just clicking a new program in the task manage takes a minute or so
[22:23] <Sixofour|Sleep> manager
[22:24] <scifi> Hi guys, im having trouble with kdewallet either not saving or not accepting my password, can anyone advise me on this????
[22:26] <eamon> flash
[22:27] <favro> Sixofour|Sleep: check to see if your cpu is maxed out
[22:29] <favro> !flash | eamon
[22:29] <DaskreecH> Sixofour|Sleep: nvidia?
[22:29] <Sixofour|Sleep> its like 60%..but i know why...besides that, its slow even without the cpu being used at all
[22:29] <Sixofour|Sleep> ATi
[22:29] <Sixofour|Sleep> is there purposely a delay put into kubuntu when you clock or do stuff?
[22:29] <Sixofour|Sleep> click
[22:30] <scifi> anyone?
[22:30] <favro> !kdewallet
[22:30] <Sixofour|Sleep> when nothing is running it takes 4 seconds two switch channels via click the tab in chatzilla
[22:31] <Sixofour|Sleep> to*
[22:31] <Sixofour|Sleep> maby its just chatzilla
[22:32] <favro> Sixofour|Sleep: it depends on your system setup - somethings not right with yours
[22:32] <Sixofour|Sleep> steam is useing 45% of ym cpu :S
[22:32] <Sixofour|Sleep> xorg 23%
[22:32] <DaskreecH> Wine?
[22:32] <Sixofour|Sleep> wine server 10%
[22:33] <Sixofour|Sleep> yeah
[22:33] <scifi> no wonder then
[22:33] <Sixofour|Sleep> it seems slow even without wine though
[22:33] <scifi> whats it like with kopete???
[22:34] <Sixofour|Sleep> kopete?
[22:34] <scifi> the default kde chat client
[22:34] <Sixofour|Sleep> oh, let me see
[22:35] <coreymon77> its prob steam
[22:38] <eamon> im still having trouble installing flash can anyone help
[22:38] <coreymon77> !problem | eamon
[22:38] <favro> eamon: are you using 64bit install?
[22:39] <eamon> how can i find out
[22:39] <eamon> i dont think so this pc is a p4 1.7gz
[22:39] <coreymon77> is he on a 64bit computer
[22:39] <favro> eamon: if you were you'd know
[22:40] <coreymon77> lets do it this way
[22:40] <Sixofour|Sleep> kopete doesn't have IRC chat
[22:40] <coreymon77> we could always lspci and see what that tells us
[22:40] <eamon> no im not on a 64bit pc
[22:40] <coreymon77> okay
[22:41] <coreymon77> so, whats not working
[22:41] <eamon> i cant view videos on places like youtube
[22:41] <coreymon77> eamon: did you install properly
[22:41] <coreymon77> ?
[22:42] <eamon> i got an error message when i download flash
[22:42] <coreymon77> eamon: lets try this again
[22:42] <coreymon77> eamon: 8.04 i presume?
[22:43] <eamon> yes
[22:43] <coreymon77> eamon: okay then, is the multiverse repository enabled?
[22:43] <eamon> yes
[22:44] <coreymon77> eamon: okay, run sudo apt-get update
[22:44] <eamon> ok how do i do that
[22:44] <coreymon77> eamon: open konsole
[22:45] <eamon> yup
[22:45] <coreymon77> eamon: and type sudo apt-get update
[22:45] <coreymon77> apt is the command line version of adept
[22:45] <bmwerks> whats the best program to use to split a archive?
[22:45] <coreymon77> bmwerks: does ark not do it?
[22:45] <Sixofour|Sleep> ark
[22:46] <bmwerks> ahh not sure
[22:46] <eamon> ok cool done that
[22:46] <bmwerks> i need to find a one
[22:46] <bmwerks> well thanks ill try
[22:46] <coreymon77> bmwerks: what browser are you trying to install it for
[22:47] <bmwerks> browser?
[22:47] <coreymon77> bmwerks: firefox?
[22:47] <coreymon77> whops
[22:47] <coreymon77> wrong tab complete
[22:47] <coreymon77> bmwerks: sorry
[22:47] <bmwerks> i use firefox but its an archive im trying to split
[22:47] <coreymon77> eamon: what browser are you trying to install flash on
[22:47] <coreymon77> bmwerks: tab completion automatically did you nick, that was meant for eamon
[22:48] <eamon> mozilla
[22:48] <coreymon77> bmwerks: just try using ark
[22:48] <coreymon77> eamon: close all browsers on your computer
[22:48] <coreymon77> eamon: firefox, konqueror etc
[22:49] <eamon> then restart
[22:49] <coreymon77> eamon: nope
[22:49] <coreymon77> eamon: not yet
[22:49] <coreymon77> eamon: just close
[22:49] <eamon> ok
[22:49] <coreymon77> closed?
[22:49] <eamon> yep
[22:50] <coreymon77> eamon: good, now once again in konsole type sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[22:50] <eamon> Hmmmm nonfree does this mean ihave to pay
[22:50] <coreymon77> nope
[22:50] <coreymon77> eamon: it just means its not open source
[22:51] <eamon> ok
[22:51] <eamon> sweet its doing its thing
[22:52] <eamon> oh yay flash plugin installed
[22:52] <coreymon77> okay, it should work now
[22:52] <eamon> thanks corey
[22:52] <eamon> now java is that similar
[22:53] <coreymon77> yup
[22:53] <eamon> sudo apt-get install java?
[22:53] <coreymon77> nope
[22:54] <favro> !java
[22:54] <eamon> oh ok
[22:55] <coreymon77> eamon: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin
[22:56] <eamon> is there a website where i can learn all these commands
[22:56] <DaskreecH> !commands
[22:56] <coreymon77> apt is fairly simple
[22:57] <Sixofour|Sleep> apt-get is kinda easy
[22:58] <Sixofour|Sleep> eamon: 60% of everything you will do will involve the konsole
[22:58] <Sixofour|Sleep> 70% is better estimate
[22:58] <coreymon77> Sixofour|Sleep: wrong
[22:58] <Sixofour|Sleep> how so?
[22:58] <DaskreecH> Sixofour|Sleep: very wrong
[22:58] <coreymon77> Sixofour|Sleep: you can do everything graphically if you want
[22:58] <Sixofour|Sleep> everything i ahve done as needed konsole
[22:58] <DaskreecH> Sixofour|Sleep: most of it can be done graphically
[22:58] <coreymon77> Sixofour|Sleep: you dont ever have to even open konsole if you dont want to
[22:58] <Sixofour|Sleep> :O
[22:58] <DaskreecH> Sixofour|Sleep: You were using the konsole already so we just kept using it
[22:59] <Sixofour|Sleep> how do you apt-get without a konsole then?
[22:59] <coreymon77> Sixofour|Sleep: adept
[22:59] <Sixofour|Sleep> adept?
[22:59] <DaskreecH> Sixofour|Sleep: Learning commands are good though you can get a lot done in very short period of imte
[22:59] <coreymon77> its a program
[22:59] <coreymon77> graphical apt
[22:59] <Sixofour|Sleep> ah
[22:59] <coreymon77> mind you its much slower and tends to bug up
[22:59] <fujisan> hello
[22:59] <coreymon77> so cli apt is prefferable, but still
[23:00] <Sixofour|Sleep> cli = ?
[23:00] <eamon> so is there a tutorial or something for konsole
[23:00] <coreymon77> Sixofour|Sleep: command line interface
[23:00] <coreymon77> Sixofour|Sleep: aka konsole
[23:00] <Sixofour|Sleep> ah
[23:00] <coreymon77> eamon: well the general rule is dont do anything in konsole unless you know exactly what it will do
[23:01] <eamon> ok
[23:01] <coreymon77> eamon: because you can mess up your computer royal
[23:01] <eamon> ahhh its how you learn i guess
[23:01] <Sixofour|Sleep> ROYAL
[23:01] <coreymon77> not really
[23:01] <Sixofour|Sleep> also, don't kill process krunner
[23:01] <Sixofour|Sleep> no matter what anyone says
[23:01] <coreymon77> eamon: we are talkign royal here, as in, you computer will not boot
[23:01] <eamon> what will that do
[23:02] <eamon> oh
[23:02] <Sixofour|Sleep> one letter can be the difference bewteen free pron and hard drive failure
[23:02] <Sixofour|Sleep> killing krunner makes nothing work
[23:02] <Sixofour|Sleep> you have to restart kde
[23:02] <DaskreecH> You'd have to flash the Bios with /dev/random for that
[23:03] <Sixofour|Sleep> do you have kubuntu 8.04?
[23:03] <eamon> yep
[23:03] <coreymon77> okay
[23:03] <coreymon77> enough scaring the newbie for one day
[23:03] <Sixofour|Sleep> !kde4
[23:03] <eamon> haha
[23:03] <eamon> its all good
[23:03] <Sixofour|Sleep> use that channel aswell as this one
[23:03] <coreymon77> Sixofour|Sleep: not a good idea
[23:03] <Sixofour|Sleep> what?
[23:03] <coreymon77> Sixofour|Sleep: hes prob still using kde4
[23:03] <coreymon77> kde3*
[23:03] <eamon> ahh what kde?
[23:03] <Sixofour|Sleep> eamon you using kde4 or 3?
[23:03] <coreymon77> unless you purposely get 4, the default is still 3
[23:03] <DaskreecH> Sixofour|Sleep: That shoudln't happen
[23:04] <DaskreecH> kde shoudln't need krunner to work
[23:04] <Sixofour|Sleep> i kiled krunner and no rpograms would run
[23:04] <Sixofour|Sleep> alt+f2 did nothing
[23:05] <Sixofour|Sleep> ctrl+alt+backspace did nothing
[23:05] <eamon> is kill a command
[23:05] <Sixofour|Sleep> had to push the button
[23:05] <coreymon77> eamon: yup, dont use it though
[23:05] <Sixofour|Sleep> it is in the sysem monitor
[23:05] <Sixofour|Sleep> they should have changed the command kill to "murder" it would have been more appropriate
[23:06] <eamon> well im stoked that i have a linux machine on my network now
[23:06] <coreymon77> eamon: apt is a pretty safe command to use, but other than that, dont play around with konsole commands unless you know what they will do
[23:06] <eamon> ok
[23:07] <Sixofour|Sleep> a guy told me a command once that deletes the partitions in real time
[23:07] <eamon> will remeber that,  was messing around in konsol last night hope i didnt do too much damage
[23:07] <Sixofour|Sleep> or something to that effect
[23:07] <Sixofour|Sleep> it was a brutal command
[23:07] <coreymon77> eamon: you would know if you did
[23:07] <Sixofour|Sleep> i needed to use it because kubuntu wouldn't let me install windows anymore
[23:07] <eamon> sweet
[23:08] <coreymon77> Sixofour|Sleep: you mean the rm-rf command?
[23:08] <Sixofour|Sleep> dunno.it was one command that = empty hard drive
[23:08] <coreymon77> Sixofour|Sleep: that would be that
[23:08] <coreymon77> Sixofour|Sleep: aka the "oh s**t!!!!" button
[23:08] <coreymon77> :P
[23:09] <Sixofour|Sleep> if i put rm-rf into konsole and hit ok what would happen?
[23:09] <eamon> do you use msn or google talk coreymon
[23:09] <Sixofour|Sleep> well, i addes sudo
[23:09] <coreymon77> Sixofour|Sleep: drive gets erased
[23:09] <coreymon77> eamon: dont give it out to people i dont know personally
[23:09] <coreymon77> eamon: thats what irc is for
[23:10] <eamon> ok sweeet as  was just going to add you incase i need more advice
[23:10] <Sixofour|Sleep> coreymon not even a y/n prompt?
[23:10] <coreymon77> Sixofour|Sleep: nope
[23:10] <Sixofour|Sleep> lol ouch?
[23:10] <coreymon77> not fun
[23:10] <Sixofour|Sleep> does it need sudo?
[23:11] <Sixofour|Sleep> surely it needs sudo
[23:11] <coreymon77> Sixofour|Sleep: as i said, the "oh s**t" button
[23:11] <coreymon77> Sixofour|Sleep: depends, if you are simply erasing the contents of your home dir, no, because you dont need sudo for that, but for your entire drive, yes
[23:11] <eamon> oh another question
[23:12] <coreymon77> Sixofour|Sleep: rm-rf=remove-reformat
[23:12] <eamon> how do i update my display drivers
[23:12] <Sixofour|Sleep> hrm, any way to disable that command for non sudo?
[23:12] <coreymon77> Sixofour|Sleep: no worries
[23:12] <Sixofour|Sleep> i'm afraid i might use it by accedent lol
[23:12] <coreymon77> Sixofour|Sleep: just typing rm-rf wont do anything, you gotta put in a directory
[23:12] <Sixofour|Sleep> oh
[23:12] <Sixofour|Sleep> whew
[23:13] <eamon> what is rm-rf
[23:13] <coreymon77> Sixofour|Sleep: and if you accidentally do it, well, you deserve it
[23:13] <Sixofour|Sleep> 3 days from now i might think"what was that move folder command?..oh yeah rm-rf"
[23:13] <coreymon77> eamon: nothing you should know about
[23:13] <coreymon77> Sixofour|Sleep: no, thats mv
[23:13] <Agent_bob> i think i asked this in here before, but what's a good command to convert .vob to some free format ?
[23:13] <Sixofour|Sleep> you haven't met my brain
[23:14] <coreymon77> Agent_bob: you would need a program to do that
[23:14] <DaskreecH> Sixofour|Sleep: expand the command into somethin useful
[23:14] <DaskreecH> If you can read rm as move you seriously need an implant :-)
[23:14] <DaskreecH> eamon: rm removes something from the computer
[23:14] <Agent_bob> coreymon77 commands generally are programs.   bash builtins or otherwise.
[23:15] <DaskreecH> haha got you there
[23:15] <Sixofour|Sleep> rf = command note found
[23:15] <coreymon77> you wanna be a smart ass or you wanna get and answer
[23:15] <coreymon77> an*
[23:16]  * DaskreecH would choose smart ass
[23:16] <coreymon77> DaskreecH: i can just see sixfour typing rm-rf / thinking its the move command :P
[23:16] <Agent_bob> coreymon77 rm-rf isn't a command anyway
[23:16] <eamon> is it a delete command or something
[23:17] <Agent_bob> eamon rm is
[23:17] <coreymon77> whatever it is
[23:17] <DaskreecH> coreymon77: Where the heck is he moving that to ?
[23:17] <coreymon77> DaskreecH: no clue
[23:17] <Daisuke_Ido> DaskreecH: /dev/null
[23:17] <Sixofour|Sleep> rm remove, mk, make directory, mv move directory etc etc
[23:17] <coreymon77> lol
[23:17] <DaskreecH> eamon: yes its delete
[23:18] <Agent_bob> eamon ffr any command you don't know what does   run it by man      man rm
[23:18] <Agent_bob> i.e.   man man
[23:18] <coreymon77> any command you dont know what it does
[23:18] <coreymon77> dont use it
[23:19] <Agent_bob> no
[23:19] <coreymon77> particularily if it requires sudo
[23:19] <Agent_bob> learn about it.
[23:19] <Sixofour|Sleep> type idclev into konsole
[23:19] <Sixofour|Sleep> right now
[23:19]  * Sixofour|Sleep watches everyone google idclev
[23:19] <eamon> hahaha
[23:20] <Sixofour|Sleep> ok, real problem
[23:20] <Daisuke_Ido> i much prefer iddqd
[23:20] <Sixofour|Sleep> firefox is asking me to create a new profile every time i start it
[23:20] <Sixofour|Sleep> :S
[23:20] <Sixofour|Sleep> i created a profile and put it in /home/firefox
[23:20] <Daisuke_Ido> (which is a shell script that runs sudo -s on my system)
[23:20] <Sixofour|Sleep> but it keeps trying to load something from root
[23:20] <DaskreecH> Sixofour|Sleep: sounds like you don't own your own profile
[23:21] <Daisuke_Ido> then you're running firefox with sudo?
[23:21] <Sixofour|Sleep> no
[23:21] <Agent_bob> Daisuke_Ido heh like root here.
[23:21] <Sixofour|Sleep> i'm running without sudo, is why i put the profile in/home
[23:21] <Sixofour|Sleep> $HOME
[23:21] <Sixofour|Sleep> not /home/
[23:21] <Sixofour|Sleep> $HOME/firefox
[23:21] <Sixofour|Sleep> you get thwe point
[23:21] <coreymon77> Sixofour|Sleep: did you install firefox with apt
[23:21] <eamon> whats the dollar signs in commands mean
[23:21] <Sixofour|Sleep> yes
[23:22] <coreymon77> Sixofour|Sleep: that is not where profiles go
[23:22] <Sixofour|Sleep> dunno, i only seen someone else use the $ sign
[23:22] <Daisuke_Ido> environment variables
[23:22] <Sixofour|Sleep> corey i can't put them anywhere else, no permissiopn
[23:22] <Daisuke_Ido> $HOME = your home directory
[23:22] <Agent_bob> eamon means the next char is a variable    up to ifs
[23:22] <Sixofour|Sleep> kdesudo doesn't work, and you don't use sudo for graphical apps
[23:22] <solifugus> When are firefox 3 packages going to be available for kubuntu?
[23:22] <Sixofour|Sleep> they are now?
[23:22] <coreymon77> solifugus: they are
[23:22] <Sixofour|Sleep> i am using firefox 3 nightly
[23:22] <Daisuke_Ido> solifugus: about three months ago
[23:23] <coreymon77> solifugus: they have been since it was released
[23:23] <Agent_bob> eamon echo "$USER lives in $HOME"
[23:23] <coreymon77> why exactly
[23:23] <Daisuke_Ido> are ff3 nightlies available through the repos?
[23:23] <eamon> well im off  thanks for the help guys
[23:23] <coreymon77> im using fx3
[23:23] <coreymon77> stable
[23:23] <Sixofour|Sleep> is there a command or variable for "all"
[23:23] <coreymon77> why are yuo guys using nightlies exactly?
[23:23] <coreymon77> stable has been out for a couple of months
[23:24] <Sixofour|Sleep> bexcause i like instability
[23:24] <Agent_bob> Sixofour|Sleep *
[23:24] <Daisuke_Ido> coreymon77: not, i'm using stable.  i'm thinking if he's using nightlies, they're not coming from the repos
[23:24] <Aeonoris> I downloaded Kubuntu and then extracted the files from the .iso into a folder.  I then used K3b to burn those files to a disk, but the disk won't boot on either of the two computers I've tried it on.  It just boots the operating system already on the computer.  I made sure that it checks for a bootable CD before looking at the hard drive.  Did I burn the CD wrong?
[23:24] <Daisuke_Ido> Aeonoris: you burned it wrong
[23:24] <Sixofour|Sleep> anyways, about the profiles?
[23:24] <Daisuke_Ido> you don't extract the iso
[23:24] <Daisuke_Ido> you use the option in k3b to burn an image file to cd
[23:24] <rickest> Aeonoris: yes, that's wrong.  tell your CD burner software to burn the .ISO, not the extracted .ISO.
[23:24] <coreymon77> im off helping for a while, im on my break
[23:24] <Aeonoris> Daisuke_Ido, how do I do that?
[23:25] <solifugus> coreymon77, Daisuke_Ido: ok.. sorry, i was expecting them as an update.. I guess I have to separately install it.  Do i have to uninstall my existing firefox first?
[23:25] <Daisuke_Ido> open k3b, choose burn image file
[23:25] <Aeonoris> rickest, that's what I tried last time, but I accidentally burned the iso itself.  I'm running out of CDs, heh
[23:25] <coreymon77> solifugus: erm, i think i just updated
[23:25] <coreymon77>  /facepalm
[23:25] <rickest> Aeonoris: you using k3b?
[23:25] <Daisuke_Ido> Aeonoris: don't burn a data cd, burn image to disc
[23:26] <solifugus> coreymon77: it's not an update.. each version is listed separately in Adept.
[23:26] <rickest> Aeonoris: from k3b's menu, select Tools->Burn CD Image.  that opens a file-open dialog, find and select the .ISO
[23:26] <Aeonoris> Oh, I see.
[23:26] <Aeonoris> Thanks both.
[23:26] <coreymon77> can someone else help him out
[23:27] <coreymon77> im taking a break
[23:27] <rickest> yw
[23:27] <Sixofour|Sleep> so it would be like * $USER, $HOME chown sudo...or something
[23:28] <Agent_bob> crap. all the howto's are going the wreong way.   * to vob   i want vob to <free_format_here>
[23:28] <Sixofour|Sleep> so.. .vob to .ogg in google
[23:28] <Sixofour|Sleep> .vob = what?
[23:29] <Aeonoris> video object?
[23:30] <Agent_bob> yeah the mpeg from dvd ar named *.vob
[23:30] <Aeonoris> according to wikipedia: If the VOB filename extension is changed from .vob to an MPEG-2 type file extension such as .mpg or .mpeg, the file is still readable and continues to hold all information, although most MPEG-2-capable players don't support subtitle tracks.
[23:30] <Aeonoris> So, eh, try changing the file extension?
[23:31] <Agent_bob> that wont change the format
[23:31] <Agent_bob> i'm wanting to convert the file not just rename it
[23:31] <Agent_bob> to .ogm maybe
[23:31] <Aeonoris> Oh.  Well google .vob to .mpg, or is .mpg non-free?
[23:32] <Sixofour|Sleep> mpg is microsoft
[23:32] <Agent_bob> i googled .vob to   and all hits are blah to .vob > dvd
[23:32] <Sixofour|Sleep> .vob to .avi?
[23:32] <Sixofour|Sleep> avi is free i think
[23:32] <Sixofour|Sleep> then encode the avi to something smaller
[23:32] <Sixofour|Sleep> though quality loss will be high probably
[23:33] <Daisuke_Ido> avi isn't a format, avi is a container
[23:33] <Daisuke_Ido> and quality loss is a certainty
[23:33] <Daisuke_Ido> it's a lossy format
[23:33] <solifugus> ok.. i uninstalled firefox regular, installed firefox 3... and now there is no firefox option under start->internet
[23:33] <Agent_bob> wait. quoting it helped.  ".vob to"  has some hits that look interesting
[23:33] <solifugus> executing firefox doesn't work either
[23:34] <Daisuke_Ido> solifugus: you're using hardy, right?
[23:34] <Sixofour|Sleep> firefox 2 and 3 are vastly different
[23:34] <Richard> 3 >> 2
[23:34] <tacosarecool> Hello
[23:34] <Daisuke_Ido> solifugus: apt-cache policy firefox
[23:34] <tacosarecool> How do I write to .zip?
[23:34] <Daisuke_Ido> and pastebin the output
[23:35] <Richard> ls >> tacosarecool.zip
[23:36] <Sixofour|Sleep> How do you write "all your base are belong to me" in konsole?
[23:36] <Richard> echo all your base are belong to me
[23:36] <Sixofour|Sleep> ... with commands
[23:36] <tacosarecool> So I got to rename my zip to tacosarecool.zip
[23:36] <Richard> tacosarecool.zip was an example
[23:37] <tacosarecool> But when I try to put stuff in an already existing zip it says cannot write to tar
[23:37] <Richard> ah
[23:37] <Sixofour|Sleep> actually, how do i install .tar.bz2?
[23:38] <Richard> tar cvf file.tar file1 file2 file3
[23:38] <Richard> Sixofour|Sleep extract it
[23:38] <Sixofour|Sleep> ark?
[23:38] <Richard> could be
[23:39] <Sixofour|Sleep> um, make a new dir on desktop?
[23:39] <tacosarecool> does the tar cvf apply to me?
[23:40] <Richard> thats up to you Sixofour|Sleep
[23:40] <Richard> yes tacosarecool
[23:41] <tacosarecool> Oh I just used ark and it works
[23:41] <tacosarecool> bye
[23:42] <Sixofour|Sleep> i'm asking how to
[23:42] <Sixofour|Sleep> make a dir on my desktop to dump the tar stuff into,
[23:42] <Sixofour|Sleep> then delete the dir after i install the program
[23:43] <jhutchins_wk> !compile | Sixofour|Sleep
[23:44]  * Agent_bob doesn't like not using dash for switches.   tar -cjf file.tar.bz2 paths
[23:44] <Sixofour|Sleep> ..i just need to know how to make a dir..i know how to compile from source
[23:44] <Richard> normally: ./configure && make
[23:44] <jhutchins_wk> Sixofour|Sleep: If you install from a tarball you break the dpkg system.  Not recommended.
[23:44] <Richard> mkdir SixofourDi
[23:44] <Agent_bob> how to make a dir    pfft mkdir
[23:45] <jhutchins_wk> F10 in konqueror.
[23:45] <Agent_bob> mkdir -p ~/Desktop/blah/blah/blah
[23:45] <Sixofour|Sleep> well, do you know how to install teamspeak then?
[23:46] <jhutchins_wk> tar will usually create a directory though, most tarball installs will.
[23:46] <Sixofour|Sleep> apt-get doesn't know what teamspeak is
[23:46] <Richard> is it in the repts?
[23:46] <Agent_bob> !teamspeak
[23:46] <Sixofour|Sleep> apt-cache search teamspeak has nothing
[23:46] <jhutchins_wk> Sixofour|Sleep: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=193764 <= finding a teamspeak .deb
[23:47] <Sixofour|Sleep> i have the source though...which is ahrder, fidning a way to apt it..or installing from scoure?
[23:47] <jhutchins_wk> !info teamspeak-server
[23:47] <jhutchins_wk> !info teamspeak-client
[23:48] <Sixofour|Sleep> and i still don't know how to make a directory on the desktop
[23:48] <Sixofour|Sleep> :S
[23:49] <Richard> mkdir ~/Desktop/NewDir
[23:49] <Sixofour|Sleep> without the konsole :D
[23:49] <Sixofour|Sleep>  i can do it in konsole
[23:50] <Richard> you can't
[23:50] <coreymon77> Sixofour|Sleep: right click, new folder
[23:50] <Richard> kde4 is different now
[23:50] <Sixofour|Sleep> yeah, no new folder option
[23:50] <Richard> create in home
[23:50] <Richard> and drag it there
[23:50] <Sixofour|Sleep> better question, where is my trashcan?
[23:50] <Sixofour|Sleep> if there is one
[23:50] <Richard> trash:/
[23:50] <Richard> add a widget in the desktop for the trash can
[23:51] <Richard> the desktop now is just for widgets
[23:51] <Richard> not folders
[23:51] <Agent_bob> ~/.local/trash/*
[23:51] <coreymon77> personally, i think they went a little overboard with plasma
[23:51] <Sixofour|Sleep> do i add a genric icon?
[23:52] <Sixofour|Sleep> everythign else seems to already have a function
[23:53] <Richard> Sixofour|Sleep add widget, search for trash, and add it to the desktop
[23:54] <Agent_bob> the only desktop environment that i have ever found that i actually like is the linux console.
[23:54] <Sixofour|Sleep> KLauncher could not be reached via D-Bus, error when calling start_service_by_desktop_path:
[23:54] <Sixofour|Sleep> empty <--i get this all the time, what is it?
[23:54] <favro> !icons
[23:57] <Sixofour|Sleep> .sh files?
[23:57] <Sixofour|Sleep> i clicked and wine opened up o.O
[23:57] <Agent_bob> shell script
[23:57] <Sixofour|Sleep> then crashed
[23:57] <Richard> ./file.sh
[23:57] <Sixofour|Sleep> ~ setup.sh?
[23:57] <Agent_bob> shell script
[23:57] <Sixofour|Sleep> how do i run it...
[23:58] <Sixofour|Sleep> ~ setup.sh?
[23:58] <Agent_bob> . setup.sh
[23:58] <Richard> ./file.sh
[23:58] <Sixofour|Sleep> :O
[23:59] <Agent_bob> what to be a little more safe use    sh setup.sh
[23:59] <Agent_bob> or bash setup.sh
[23:59] <Sixofour|Sleep> crono@Nekron:~/Desktop/Tempo$ setup.sh
[23:59] <Sixofour|Sleep> bash: setup.sh: command not found
[23:59] <Sixofour|Sleep> i was in the directory with the file
[23:59] <Agent_bob> i don't see a dot in you command.  you do see one in mine
[23:59] <Agent_bob> . setup.sh


[23:31]  * skraito http://0x71.org for 0x71 redhat 5 preview hardening and 0x71 tripwire prototype
[23:33]  * skraito http://0x71.org for 0x71 redhat 5 preview hardening and 0x71 tripwire prototype


 Is there a tool to restore configuration files to default?
[03:59] <tomreyn> paculino: for a package installed with apt: sudo apt install --reinstall -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confask,confnew,confmiss" <package-name>
 What about for system configuration files such as in etc and var?
[04:19] <user|63> Discover is not working is there a fix? This version stopped working on both of my machines.  Can't get updates.
[04:21] <user|63> Discover is not working is there a fix? This version stopped working on both of my machines.  Can't get updates.
 Are you getting Authentication error too?
[04:25] <user|63> I get a message at bottom of page when I start it, but so fast I can never read it. It's about four lines.
 Does use apt to remove and purge it and then to reinstall it fix it? If not, it may be an error in your sources.list or ppas or repos
[04:28] <user|63> It says something about security error and a message about  the server.
 Oh, I am inadequate to help with that.
[04:30] <user|63> ok thanks anyway.  I know nothing except I like Kubuntu better than Windows except for this issue.
[04:31] <user|63> Thing worked well for a couple of months then this. Now can't update  or install anything.
 Does apt not work?
[12:28] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:08] <Roberalz> Hi
 Uoxj (re @join_captcha_bot: )
 U0xj (re @join_captcha_bot: )
 O6TZ (re @join_captcha_bot: )
 06TZ
 WTF
 TLOT (re @join_captcha_bot: )


[13:32] <cyphermox> tsimonq2: I'm not a debian developer
[13:33] <tsimonq2> cyphermox: Ah, got it.
[14:43] <Eickmeyer> cyphermox: I haven't been ignoring you either. Likewise, been super busy. I've been working a lot more hours than usual lately for operational need.
[14:44] <Eickmeyer> And I'm part-time, which is why this is unusual.
[15:45] <cyphermox> np


[08:36] <Elbrus> I just found a small bug in ubottu in #ubuntu-motu
[08:36] <Elbrus> where should I report the bug?
[08:37] <Elbrus> jussio1: you are reported as the maintainer of ubottu?
[08:37] <Elbrus> hmm jussio1 != jussi01 ?
[08:38] <jussio1> !bug
[08:38] <jussio1> and yes, Im one and the same.
[08:38] <Elbrus> you will find my bug there.
[08:38] <Elbrus> in a short while
[13:15] <Ursinha> jpds, hey :) do you know if ubot2 is dead?
[13:17] <jpds> Oh, now I see why it keeps dying.
[13:17] <jpds> Ursinha: Thanks for the heads-up.
[13:17] <jpds> Nafallo: IOError: [Errno 28] No space left on device - :-/
[13:17] <Ursinha> thanks for sorting that out so quickly!
[13:17] <Ursinha> ouch
[13:17] <Ursinha> :(
[13:20] <jpds> I've freed up some more disk space.
[13:22] <Ursinha> thanks jpds :) all #ubuntu-br says so :)
[13:23] <jpds> Ursinha: Let me know if you have any more problems.
[13:24] <Nafallo> jpds: go fix it?
[13:24] <Ursinha> sure jpds
[13:24] <Ursinha> thanks
[13:24] <Nafallo> jpds: give me a run through were the space went please?
[13:24] <Ursinha> hi Nafallo :)
[13:24] <Nafallo> Ursinha: hi
[13:24] <jpds> Nafallo: I've deleted some old backups.
[13:25] <Nafallo> jpds: did you also make sure to not back them up forever?
[13:25] <jpds> Nafallo: Yes.
[13:25] <Nafallo> 178Mvar
[13:25] <jpds> find $backupdir -name '*.gz' -type f -mtime +15 -exec rm -vf {} \; - changed to +7.
[13:25]  * Nafallo tries to clean a bit
[13:26] <Nafallo> 93M	var
[13:26]  * jpds hugs Nafallo.
[13:26]  * Nafallo checks for old kernels
[13:27] <Nafallo> except I actually forgot to look...
[13:28] <Nafallo> jpds: removing one old kernel.
[13:28] <Nafallo> jpds: bringing /boot from 23M to 12M
[13:29] <Nafallo> jpds: and /lib from 66M to 38M
[17:30] <ubot2> mneptok called the ops in #ubuntu-classroom ()
[17:52] <ubot2> In #ubuntu-classroom, mneptok said: !mneptok is a hoopty frood who knows where his towel is.


[15:49] <DangerM> Anyone here :)
[15:50] <TheLordOfTime> no :P
[15:50] <TheLordOfTime> we're all dead
[15:50] <TheLordOfTime> and those of us that arent are either dying, or immortal
[15:50] <TheLordOfTime> :P
[16:04] <DangerM> Lol
[16:04] <DangerM> I'll go with that
[16:04] <DangerM> hows things anyway
[16:04] <DangerM> Hopefully this channel will be a bit more active
[16:05] <DangerM> when a few more supporters pick up the bat
[16:05] <DangerM> also its not advertised that much - maybe make it a bit more prominent on the FAQ
[16:05] <DangerM> or something
[16:05] <TheLordOfTime> its not "official" last i heard
[16:05] <TheLordOfTime> at least not yet
[16:05] <DangerM> the channel ?
[16:06] <TheLordOfTime> no, the release.
[16:06]  * TheLordOfTime yawns
[16:06] <TheLordOfTime> but that's what jbicha said a while
[16:06]  * TheLordOfTime returns to stabbing php5
[16:06] <jbicha_> DangerM: we have a FAQ?
[16:09] <DangerM> I thought that the main page was an FAQ of sorts
[16:09] <DangerM> lol
[16:10] <jbicha_> anyway, feel free to make one if you like
[16:10] <DangerM> Oh wow I got roped into that
[16:10] <DangerM> Lol
[16:10] <DangerM> Sure why not
[16:10] <TheLordOfTime> lolol
[16:11] <jbicha_> here, let's use this for the final release notes (I just copied it from the beta notes) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ReleaseNotes/12.10
[16:12] <DangerM> Cool
[16:24] <DangerM> jbica_ question - fingerprint sensor works out of the box on fedora gnome for login keyring etc but doesn't on this remix - any idea why ?
[16:26] <jbicha_> DangerM: I don't have a fingerprint sensor so I don't know
[16:27] <jbicha_> does it work with regular Ubuntu?
[16:28] <jbicha_> I think this is another one of those trick questions... you know, the ones where the answer involves you doing more work :)
[16:31] <DangerM> Lol I will get stuck in
[16:31] <DangerM> It does not work with regular Ubuntu but I thought it was more lack of support in Unity
[16:31] <DangerM> I shall investigate more what Fedora preinstalls to support it
[16:32] <DangerM> on my Thinkpad
[16:36] <jbicha_> maybe http://packages.qa.debian.org/fprintd ?
[16:38] <DangerM> Possibly the fingerprint implementation seems to be a bit hit and miss
[16:38] <DangerM> depending on the sensor installed etc
[16:38] <DangerM> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Integrated_Fingerprint_Reader
[16:39] <DangerM> Apparently yeah for my model fprint is the one
[16:40] <DangerM> And apparently the packages are in 12.10 so I just need to
[16:40] <DangerM> apt-get install libfprint0 fprint-demo libpam-fprintd gksu-polkit
[18:38] <TheLordOfTime> jbicha, are you MOTU?
[18:41] <jbicha> yes
[18:42] <TheLordOfTime> i might have a question for you, in a bit.
[18:43] <TheLordOfTime> but if you're not sure about universe-domain server packages, i'll go stab micah or someone later
[18:45] <jbicha> if it's a generic motu question, #ubuntu-motu is a better place
[18:45] <TheLordOfTime> its a package-specific question, so... :P
[18:45] <jbicha> well there's a lot more people that can answer your questions there
[18:46] <jbicha> they don't tend to answer questions like "is anybody here?" though ;)
[18:47] <TheLordOfTime> true
[18:47] <TheLordOfTime> although usually that works when people are actually alive ;P
[18:47] <TheLordOfTime> i asked in there now though
[18:48] <jbicha> there's like 200 people in that room, could you imagine if everyone answered that question?
[18:49] <TheLordOfTime> lol
[18:49] <TheLordOfTime> not all are MOTUs though, no?
[19:08] <TheLordOfTime> jbicha, apparently the MOTUs are dead
[19:08] <TheLordOfTime> in - motu
[19:08] <TheLordOfTime> so...
[19:10] <everaldo> jbicha, hey.. when you are planing to generate our iso?
[19:11] <everaldo> (just curious, so I will touch you before to remember two missing patches)
[19:16] <jbicha> everaldo: final won't be done until Wednesday or Thursday
[19:17] <jbicha> your branch is missing a few changes too :)
[19:19] <everaldo> jbicha, yes? so is better to rebranch and reapply? it will make more easy for you?
[19:21] <jbicha> everaldo: I just applied your changes, but yes it would be better in the future if you branched off the latest revision
[19:28] <everaldo> jbicha, ok, is there anything else that I can do to help you for 12.10?
[19:31] <jbicha> 12.10 is basically done, but the release notes aren't yet
[19:31] <everaldo> humm, my english is not so good :(
[19:33] <jbicha> oh ok, well if you can identify important user-visible bugs, you can add them to the release notes page and someone will come along and fix things if it's not quite right
[19:33] <jbicha> you could also work with the media to let people know what we've done this cycle
[19:34] <everaldo> right, I will do it
[19:35] <everaldo> and also send some text that could be used for release notes
[19:35] <jbicha> that could be especially valuable if you know of non-English news sites that would be interested
[19:37] <everaldo> I know some here in Brazil
[19:37] <everaldo> the most visited brazilian site about linux (br-linux.org) can help us
[19:38] <jbicha> cool
[19:42] <everaldo> jbicha, whats about a full review with screenshots and tips? do you think it could be interesting?
[19:45] <algarues> hello! I would like to discuss a potential bug in evolution and online contacts, is anybody available?
[19:45] <TheLordOfTime> if you think its a bug, file a bug?
[19:46] <algarues> well, I wanted to ask other users if they were experiencing the same problem first
[19:46] <TheLordOfTime> *sigh*
[19:46] <TheLordOfTime> lemme give you a bit of advice: "If you think its a bug, file a bug."
[19:46] <TheLordOfTime> and then reference the bug in here, to see if anyone confirms.
[19:46] <TheLordOfTime> i see this too often where people think there's a bug, nobody responds, so they dont file a bug
[19:47] <TheLordOfTime> note i'm biased: i'm on bugsquad / bugcontrol
[19:47] <TheLordOfTime> i'm used to dealing with these ;P
[19:47] <TheLordOfTime> i like seeing people filing bugs
[19:47] <TheLordOfTime> if its an already reported bug, we mark yours as a duplicate of another one
[19:47] <TheLordOfTime> if it hasnt been reported, but someone comes along and sees the bug, well... :p
[19:47] <TheLordOfTime> there we go.
[19:48] <algarues> so, anyway, is it confirmed that in the definitive version evolution will be the default email app for this flavour or is it going to be thunderbird?
[19:48] <TheLordOfTime> jbicha would knowe
[19:48] <TheLordOfTime> know*
[19:48] <TheLordOfTime> i'm just hteir bugcontrol contact.
[19:49] <TheLordOfTime> (or one of them)
[19:49] <darkxst> thunderbird isnt even in the image, so how could it be default?
[19:50] <algarues> I am going to file a bug, but anyway I am experiencing that the details of my google online account do not get stored and thus I have always an empty contacts list and after setting up my gmail imap account in evolution, the details of my account are instantly deleted
[19:51] <darkxst> algarues, this maybe? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/1049028
[19:51] <darkxst> but if not, file a new bug
[19:53] <algarues> yes, it is exactly that. I was bit puzzled because I am using the gnome-remix of precise and it works perfectly, so I thought It was rather on me than on the software :P
[19:53] <algarues> on another partition
[19:55] <algarues> thank you anyway
[19:58]  * everaldo will try evolution, don't use it for years now
[22:21] <darkxst> how does a single bug report end up covering like 20 different bugs!
[22:21] <darkxst> "gnome shell randomly crashes"
[22:22] <darkxst> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/889706
[23:15] <darkxst> jbicha, I filed the gmail bug upstream, since I can reproduce it under jhbuild. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=686188


[00:42] <pepee> can you guys please fix this in ubuntu 14.04 ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/1370930
[00:44] <pepee> s/guys/people/ ...
[06:33] <lordievader> Good morning.
[18:58]  * penguin42 do-release-upgrade -d's
[20:43]  * penguin42 howls from wily


[11:31] <apachelogger_> haha, I am totally late ;-)
[11:31] <apachelogger_> anyone around for the meeting?