[21:52] <musikgoat|main> Labmonkey123: yes, then it likely needs 2 6-pin  or a 6-pin and 8-pin,  (i have a 9800gx2),  are you familiar with your PSU?  do you know the model #?
[21:52] <pepperjack> !nvidia > armagheddonsgw
[21:52] <Sinnerboy> fox
[21:52] <Rabbitbunny> noqq: You don't really have a reason to remove your bootloader, but have fun.
[21:52] <michael__> cool
[21:52] <Labmonkey123> musikgoat no, brb googling
[21:53] <edmondscommerce> hey all - is there a way of having different xorg.conf files for different users.... trying to get a "work" set up using single monitor and a "home" set up which uses a projector as well
[21:53] <armagheddonsgw> oh good :) ubuntu popped up something bout automatic drivers
[21:53] <smittyrock> Ubottu, i need your help.
[21:53] <Sinnerboy> sorry wrong keyboard
[21:53] <lzantal> pepperjack: Thank you, I am trying it right now.
[21:53] <iksik_> damn, what is this ?
[21:53] <musikgoat|main> Labmonkey123: likely you will need to upgrade your PSU if you don't have the pins necessary
[21:53] <jonrafkind> i just did upgrade-manager -d and am upgrading to 9.04 but its stuck on fetching files. what gives?
[21:53] <pepperjack> armagheddonsgw: yeah you can do the nvidia installer too google for ubuntu latest nvidia install
[21:53] <Labmonkey123> musikgoat is there any way i can get power from something else?
[21:53] <pepperjack> armagheddonsgw: only issue is that when ubuntu upgrades the kernel you could need to rerun it
[21:54] <behappy> I have dmidecode show up that my processor ID is "76 06 01 00 FF FB EB BF" is this hex maybe will be deplicate in other processor or its for this one only ???
[21:54] <thahauss> I'm new to linux, I've gotten emerald working successfully but to make it work after boot i have to type "emerald --replace" in console can some1 please tell me what the word is?
[21:54] <michael__> ubottu_ how do i change channels?
[21:54] <armagheddonsgw> no no ubuntu popped up a thing offering a list of available drivers for my card... remember vaguely using that before, worked fine
[21:54] <musikgoat|main> Labmonkey123: no.  video cards of this caliber needs adequate power
[21:54] <armagheddonsgw> michail: type /join #channel
[21:54] <guntbert> michael__: type /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:54] <armagheddonsgw> works on pidgin...
[21:55] <Labmonkey123> musikgoat how much do new power supplies cost?
[21:55] <guntbert> !tab | armagheddonsgw
[21:55] <joshjtl> when i go to a page with google earth embeded i get: error loading GE plugin   is embeded google earth not available for linux?
[21:55] <michael__> anyone here?
[21:55] <noqq> Ok, I used a LiveUSB to install Ubuntu on my netbook. Is there an uninstall-option on the same file?
[21:55] <michael__> anyone here?
[21:55] <michael__> werkh
[21:55] <michael__> \wef
[21:55] <smittyrock> I am.
[21:56] <musikgoat|main> Labmonkey123: they can range depending on the wattage required...  from 50 to 150 usd is common
[21:56] <michael__> i cant see what im typing
[21:56] <armagheddonsgw> err, guntberg sure you mean well but i prefer typing it...
[21:56] <pepperjack> michael__: /join #channelname
[21:56] <Labmonkey123> k thanks
[21:56] <michael__> can you guys see me?
[21:56] <Sinnerboy> fox
[21:56] <guntbert> michael__: about 1500 :-), is there an ubuntu support question?
[21:56] <smittyrock> Yes michael, i can see you.
[21:56] <Labmonkey123> musikgoat how can i know that the new one i get will work?
[21:56] <michael__> hello
[21:56] <michael__> a.skjdfvk/asdjbfv\
[21:56] <michael__> \
[21:57] <smittyrock> I have a question.
[21:57] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: Go ahead and ask.
[21:57] <armagheddonsgw> oh... CRAP. i should probably burn a fresh disk... O.o massive load of updates
[21:57] <musikgoat|main> Labmonkey123: I would suggest contacting the video card manufacturer (evga, bfg, xfx or whoever) and give them the specs of the video card and your computer, and they will suggest the correct minimum power requirement
[21:57] <dreamy> #ubuntustudio
[21:58] <dreamy> ops
[21:58] <Slipp3d> a quick question about the RC and the final.....should i wait until the final iso or could i use the one that i have now downloaded?
[21:58] <musikgoat|main> Labmonkey123: for example,  a BFG 9800 gt oc 512MB  graphics card requires 400W PCI Express®-compliant system power supply with a combined 12V current rating of 26A or more
[21:58] <musikgoat|main> and One 6-pin PCI Express® supplementary power connector -or- Two 4-pin perhiperal supplementary power connectors
[21:59] <smittyrock> I helped a friend install ubuntu, and when he logged on, it gave 5 different boxes of errors saying in each do you want to delete them. The last box was a nautilus error.
[21:59] <Aizawa> Slipp3d: Provided you're talking about Ubuntu; if you install with the RC iso you'll be fine, you'll only have to update it tomorrow, there's no major changes.
[21:59] <musikgoat|main> Labmonkey123: of course yours will be different specs
[21:59] <Labmonkey123> musikgoat the website for nvidia says minimum system power requirement 400w
[21:59] <armagheddonsgw> O.O what did i do??? its going haywire with graphics O.o
[21:59] <thahauss> Labmonkey123, a modular power supply that is also active PFC will do you well (google these if unfamiliar)
[21:59] <Pelle> Hello
[22:00] <Slipp3d> so the issue with ext4 isn't in the RC?
[22:00] <musikgoat|main> Labmonkey123: i would suggest getting the information from the actual card manufacturer,  not the GPU manufacturer
[22:00] <Labmonkey123> so should i just look for a power supply that fits in a dell e510 and is over 400w?
[22:00] <smittyrock> On his desktop he doesnt have anything mounted to use wifi, nor his trash can.
[22:00] <musikgoat|main> Labmonkey123: yes
[22:00] <musikgoat|main> Labmonkey123: and has the pci-e supplimentary power connections you need
[22:00] <Labmonkey123> musikgoat: how will i find if it has that?
[22:01] <racecar56> im using ubuntu 8.04 on qemu with a RTL8029AS network card and it seems it wont connect to the internet. what's wrong?
[22:01] <musikgoat|main> Labmonkey123: ask who ever you plan to buy it from
[22:01] <smittyrock> Did you copy that rabbitbunny?
[22:01] <thahauss> Labmonkey123, the e510 ships with a 305 watt power supply
[22:01] <musikgoat|main> Labmonkey123: look at the number of pins needed
[22:01] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: On the actualy desktop or on the gnome panel?
[22:01] <smittyrock> Gnome panel.
[22:02] <Labmonkey123> http://pcpowerzone.com/e510.html, would that be good? or is it over doing it?
[22:02] <Gartral> ive got a selection of drivers for my xfx 6200 gt, restricted drivers are (in order) 180, 173, 96, and 177, which should i take?
[22:02] <armagheddonsgw> err, is there a better clear command for terminal? "clear" just moves everything off the screen...
[22:02] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: It's an applet, right click, add applet.
[22:02] <guntbert> !ot | Labmonkey123
[22:02] <Typh> Anyone know why "echo "base=0xe0000000 size=0x10000000 type=write-combining" > /proc/mtrr" would produce "bash: echo: write error: Invalid argument"?
[22:02] <thewrath> who sent me a message?
[22:02] <musikgoat|main> Labmonkey123: the +12V amperage is good for what you need
[22:02] <cirE1> hey everyone... good evening. i have a quick question.... i am trying to add users for the rest of the household. what is the best way to go about that?i dont understand the groups settings and all that
[22:02] <noqq> How can I remove boot-loader without the cd? Because I'm on a Netbook, can't insert cd's.
[22:02] <Rabbitbunny> Gartral: Personally, I run the 96 driver so WoW will work, you should try the latest first.
[22:03] <smittyrock> I know, but he doesnt have any options for trashcan, nor date, and time, nor wifi.
[22:03] <musikgoat|main> Labmonkey123: and the connectors are good:  , 6-pin PCI-E, 6/8-pin PCI-E
[22:03] <lzantal> pepperjack: it worked great. Thank you again.
[22:03] <pepperjack> noqq: you typically dont remove the boot loader but overwrite it with another
[22:03] <pepperjack> lzantal: cool np
[22:03] <musikgoat|main> Labmonkey123: so I would say that should be a good choice
[22:03] <Gartral> why would >96 break WoW?
[22:03] <armagheddonsgw> if youve no other OSs on the netbook noqq, you could just format the drive.
[22:03] <Gartral> Rabbitbunny:  why would >96 break WoW?
[22:03] <picaboo> hello ubunturos! :)
[22:03] <racecar56> hi
[22:03] <noqq> armagheddonsgw: I got Xp, like to keep it
[22:03] <smittyrock> There arent any icons for it when i right click.
[22:03] <armagheddonsgw> fair enough
[22:03] <Rabbitbunny> Gartral: It makes a lot of stuff red, dunno why.
[22:03] <noqq> pepperjack: overwrite with what?
[22:04] <armagheddonsgw> go into XP, run whatever program you used to install ubuntu
[22:04] <smittyrock> Copy that rabbitbunny?
[22:04] <armagheddonsgw> should be something there
[22:04] <racecar56> will there be an ubuntu 8.04.3?
[22:04] <noqq> armagheddonsgw: I used the .iso to install, used it at a LiveUSB
[22:04] <magnetron> racecar56→ yes.
[22:05] <pepperjack> noqq: whatever other boot loader you want to use.  basically any OS you install will take care of it
[22:05] <armagheddonsgw> use that then
[22:05] <ubuntu_greg> I can't wait for jaunty to come out tomorrow!
[22:05] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: the box doesn't pop up? what happens when you click "add to Panel"?
[22:05] <thewrath> ubuntu_greg: i have the  RC and updating it now
[22:05] <armagheddonsgw> of course... you could always remove the ubuntu entry in boot.ini
[22:05] <thewrath> so it will be almost like the final
[22:05] <armagheddonsgw> if there is one
[22:05] <noqq> pepperjack: I don want an other os.
[22:05] <LordQuackstar> How do i access the Users and Groups gui? Its not under System>admin
[22:05] <xangua> cirE1: well users and groups is EXTREMLY easy to use, what is what you don't understand ¿
[22:06] <pepperjack> noqq: sorry i might not understand.  what do you need to do again?
[22:06] <musikgoat|main> LordQuackstar: modify that in system -> prefs -> main menu ?
[22:06] <noqq> pepperjack: Uninstalling ubuntu, without leaving any marks
[22:06] <ubuntu_greg> I would use the RC but I cant risk anything on this machine, I should really do a back up before tomorrow
[22:06] <RickX> anyone know where sysinfo appears in the debian menu?
[22:06] <smittyrock> it gives me a couple of choices, but it should give me alot more than it does.
[22:06] <LordQuackstar> lemme try that musikgoat
[22:06] <armagheddonsgw> whats the path to desktop?
[22:06] <racecar56> ubuntu_greg, rc is really stable for me
[22:06] <armagheddonsgw> (from terminal)
[22:06] <pepperjack> noqq: ah.  boot a livecd and cat /dev/zero > /dev/sda :)
[22:07] <ubuntu_greg> hm, maybe i should give the rc a try
[22:07] <simka> hello all
[22:07] <cirE1> xangua: well i just want to add simple users but i dont understand if i need to put them in a main group
[22:07] <ubuntu_greg> how are the notifications?
[22:07] <noqq> pepperjack: Also explain that command please.
[22:07] <musikgoat|main> ubuntu_greg: its pretty stable, and at this point, there wont be any change from the released version
[22:07] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: Did you do a full install, is something damaged, ae there errors?
[22:07] <cirE1> in the intial installation, my name is a main group of its own.. will that happen when i add a new user?
[22:07] <pepperjack> noqq: overwrites with zeros.  so not a good idea if you want to keep anything presently on there.
[22:08] <LordQuackstar> musikgoat|main: whats the command i put in in that new item dialog? I don't see a checkbox to enable it.
[22:08] <simka> is it possible to get all the neccessary stuff on one dvd like in openSuse or other distr...
[22:08] <pepperjack> simka: there is a ubuntu dvd yes
[22:08] <smittyrock> Did a full install, but yes, there were errors.
[22:08] <cirE1> and is a password for users necessary?
[22:08] <noqq> pepperjack: So it deletes everything on that partition?
[22:08] <ubuntu_greg> what do i type in the run box to get it to let me update to the rc again?
[22:08] <sapage> anyone know how long till 9.10 comes out is it released USA EURO time?
[22:08] <racecar56> ubuntu_greg, use terminal
[22:08] <armagheddonsgw> need path to desktop for terminal?
[22:08] <armegadon> sapage, in 24 hours from now
[22:08] <musikgoat|main> LordQuackstar: so its listed but greyed out?
[22:08] <racecar56> ubuntu_greg, then do update-manager -d
[22:08] <|PaperTiger|> When I try watch a film, the video viewing area flickers black and film footage. How do I stop this?
[22:08] <simka> thx pepperjack, i'll look for it
[22:08] <noqq> I find it really disturbing that Ubuntu does not have an unistall support page on their site.
[22:08] <armagheddonsgw> trying to install java
[22:08] <ubuntu_greg> ah ya thats it
[22:09] <LordQuackstar> musikgoat|main: its not listed at all
[22:09] <pepperjack> noqq: you lose everything including partition table pretty much.  i mean if i had to hand the machine over to the feds id be a little more careful but basically yeah
[22:09] <sapage> armegadon: it is 23/4 here is Australia :)
[22:09] <Rusty_AU> !outyet
[22:09] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: If you type my name as the first word of your replies it will be much easier for me to find your replies. Can you still see the errors that popped up?
[22:09] <musikgoat|main> LordQuackstar: thats unusual, is the user account your in, a limited user?
[22:09] <musikgoat|main> LordQuackstar: you can try creating it, the command is users-admin
[22:10] <GotSanity> anyone have any experience with running seperate X displays?
[22:10] <LordQuackstar> musikgoat|main: i'm in the default ubuntu account, i've made sure i'm in the admin group too
[22:10] <racecar56> GotSanity, not me
[22:10] <musikgoat|main> odd
[22:10] <racecar56> GotSanity, i would like to know too
[22:10] <smittyrock> Rabbitbunny: No, they all go away. Only one comes back, and that is the nautilus error.
[22:10] <LordQuackstar> musikgoat|main: does it need to run as sudo?
[22:11] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: Can you put the text of the error on pastebin.com for me?
[22:11] <GotSanity> hmm, im attempting to run a copy of starcraft (through wine) on a second x display (because of resolution issues) and i have the display working great but im not getting any sound
[22:11] <musikgoat|main> LordQuackstar: no, it will have an unlock where you will be prompted for authentication
[22:11] <pepperjack> GotSanity: a very basic example is sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop   then echo gnome-session > ~/.xinitrc   then xinit --:1    and xinit --:0 i think in seperate terminals
[22:11] <pepperjack> GotSanity: might have some typos
[22:11] <tiredbones> I'm using distro 8.10. When I type "man 2 read" I get a message telling me that read in not in section 2. Where is read?
[22:12] <smittyrock> Rabbitbunny: i will try to.
[22:12] <ubuntu_greg> updating to the RC...
[22:13] <GotSanity> pepperjack: what does that do exactly?
[22:13] <Rusty_AU> its out!
[22:13] <ferronica> when ubuntu 9.04 going to release?
[22:13] <MrSteveman1> tiredbones: just type man read
[22:13] <digitaloktay> hi
[22:13] <digitaloktay> people
[22:13] <musikgoat|main> !outyet
[22:13] <ubuntu_greg> ferronica, tomorrow
[22:13] <psychic1> how can change versions of ubuntu without loosing all of my files
[22:13] <psychic1> ?
[22:13] <ferronica> today is???
[22:13] <ferronica> 23
[22:14] <Rusty_AU> tomorrow where?
[22:14] <Rusty_AU> its 23rd now
[22:14] <ferronica> yeah
[22:14] <digitaloktay> its 22 now in germany
[22:14] <digitaloktay> :)
[22:14] <thahauss> tomorrow yay
[22:14] <ferronica> lol
[22:14] <Rusty_AU> let me put it this way:
[22:14] <digitaloktay> now 23 sorry
[22:14] <ferronica> here in india 23 :)
[22:14] <ubuntu_greg> well the updater says to close all apps so ill see you guys later!
[22:14] <Veeyawn> Oooh, Rusty is in the future
[22:14] <armagheddonsgw> ok how do you run .bin?
[22:14] <racecar56> its 22 here
[22:14] <Rusty_AU> it's 7:15am 23rd here in Australia, will it be out by the time I get home from work?
[22:14] <MrSteveman1> it's the 7th of february here, what am i doing wrong?
[22:14] <digitaloktay> Japan China in the future
[22:14] <mgolisch> armagheddonsgw: make it executable and run it id asume
[22:14] <racecar56> armagheddonsgw, a file type is just part of the name
[22:14] <musikgoat|main> Rusty_AU: not likely
[22:14] <tiredbones> MrStevemanl, this is what get whe I enter man read - No manual entry for read
[22:14] <Veeyawn> Synch your clock MrSteve ;)
[22:15] <armagheddonsgw> yah i know but how?
[22:15] <armagheddonsgw> havent used ubuntu for ages
[22:15] <Rusty_AU> dang
[22:15] <musikgoat|main> Rusty_AU: i would imagine when you get up tomorrow
[22:15] <racecar56> armagheddonsgw, go into terminal and do "chmod +x foo.bin && ./foo.bin"
[22:15] <racecar56> armagheddonsgw, replace foo.bin with filename
[22:15] <armagheddonsgw> ok
[22:15] <barbar> ciao
[22:15] <digitaloktay> ciao barbar
[22:15] <smittyrock> Rabbitbunny: i just put it up for you.
[22:15] <pepperjack> GotSanity: xinit initializes X basically starts x  you could use startx instead.  so that starts 2 x sessions one on display 0 one on 1 (if i typed it correctly)
[22:16] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: It gave you the worlds' worst error.
[22:16] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: That describes nothing.
[22:16] <armagheddonsgw> ty racecar56
[22:16] <ferronica> eagerly waiting for ubuntu 9.04 :)
[22:16] <racecar56> armagheddonsgw, yw
[22:16] <Rumbel> you really should add WINE by default or at least popping something up to inform novices about WINE ..for the next ubuntu 9.04 , most people have one or more app for windows that they need <-- can i request this somewhere ?
[22:16] <racecar56> tommorow its comin :>
[22:16] <simka> can anybody suggest something like pascal (turbo, borland, etc) for ubuntu, openSuse.... ?
[22:16] <xerxes> 9.04 rocks...the snapshot is great so far
[22:17] <MrSteveman1> tiredbones: it has no man page because its part of bash
[22:17] <pepperjack> GotSanity: there is no reason you need to stop gdm service. if you just want another x session you can alt-ctrl-f2 and then login and run that xinit for display 1 or 2 etc. if you echo $DISPLAY in gnome itll likely tell you 0 at the moment
[22:17] <archman> xerxes, beta?
[22:17] <musikgoat|main> Rumbel: on brainstorm
[22:17] <xerxes> no daily snap
[22:17] <xerxes> i did xubuntu
[22:17] <larroyo> hi
[22:17] <xerxes> slick and smart
[22:17] <smittyrock> Rabbitbunny: I see, so what do you think that i should do?
[22:18] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: There's a log somewhere where all these errors would be written. kernel log, boot log something like that. Hopefully someone will speak up and remind us where.
[22:18] <Rumbel> what is brainstorm? where?
[22:18] <smittyrock> yeah, a friend of mine told me about those.
[22:19] <MrSteveman1> tiredbones: http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bashref.html#Bash-Builtins
[22:19] <archman> is jaunty released at midnight gmt?
[22:19] <MrSteveman1> tiredbones: scroll down, read is in there
[22:19] <musikgoat|main> !brainstorm | Rumbel
[22:19] <jpds> archman: No.
[22:19] <smittyrock> Rabbitbunny: He is supposed to come by, but i was trying to see if i could figure it out.
[22:19] <racecar56> brb
[22:19] <archman> jpds, when?
[22:19] <musikgoat|main> archman: no
[22:19] <musikgoat|main> archman: at least not historically
[22:19] <jpds> archman: When it's announced.
[22:19] <akgraner> Rumbel, http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/
[22:19] <archman> ok ;)
[22:19] <bauerbob> hi
[22:19] <Pelle___> Haj
[22:20] <tiredbones> MrStevemanl, I found it online, but I was wondering why I can get at it on my pc.
[22:20] <Rumbel> thanks
[22:20] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: Ah, they're all in /var/log/
[22:21] <bauerbob> will jaunty be released within the next 2 hours or should i go to sleep now?
[22:21] <bauerbob> ;-)
[22:21] <Pelle___> Help! my screen is stuck at 640x350 and wont change back! i can't even see the OK buttons
[22:21] <grkblood13> what is a good way to monitor all network traffic up and down real time?
[22:21] <musikgoat|main> bauerbob: go to sleep
[22:21] <MrSteveman1> tiredbones: its in man bash but very far down
[22:21] <bauerbob> :-(
[22:21] <archman> heheh
[22:21] <MrSteveman1> bauerbob: its like christmas, you aren't getting your presents until you go to bed
[22:21] <Pelle___> what should I do?
[22:22] <archman> oh, what is the default version of wine and jack for jaunty?
[22:22] <bauerbob> you say that only because you want my bandwidth! ;-)
[22:22] <musikgoat|main> grkblood13: wireshark ?
[22:22] <pepperjack> grkblood13: wireshark
[22:22] <MaxxTaDeeR> help how can i run an installed program when there was not installed launcher in applications
[22:22] <grkblood13> i have wireshark now
[22:22] <Rabbitbunny> Pelle___: What you need to do is switch to a terminal, manually edit your xorg.conf, and restart X.
[22:22] <nach> hi !
[22:22] <grkblood13> but thats kidna messy
[22:22] <musikgoat|main> grkblood13: learn to filter
[22:22] <grkblood13> u have to have it open in its own gui and look at a graph
[22:22] <nach> how can i prevent my console to treat the ^N character ? it put garbage on my display !
[22:22] <musikgoat|main> oh
[22:23] <Pelle___> okay, I cant even click things on the mouse, windows just "move" around, very frustrating!
[22:23] <Pelle___> it's all so small
[22:23] <grkblood13> musikgoat|main, i know how to filter
[22:23] <bauerbob> on christmas eve my grandpa rings a bell and says "guess who was in the living room and brought the presents?" ...but i wonder if my grandpa knows who will bring jaunty
[22:23] <lattera> hi, I need to throttle apt-get
[22:23] <u16602> how can I start firefox in a terminal or from a script but then fork it to run in the background (so I'm able to do other things in gnome terminal)
[22:23] <musikgoat|main> grkblood13: i didn't know what you meant by messy
[22:23] <thiebaude> haha bauerbob
[22:23] <smittyrock> Rabbitbunny: how do i get to that directory?
[22:23] <lattera> anyone know how to throttle apt-get?
[22:23] <Rabbitbunny> Pelle___: ctrl+alt+F1, a terminal, press ctrl+alt+F7 to get back to X. ctrl+alt+backspace restarts X.
[22:24] <thiebaude> bauerbob: i got my present now
[22:24] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: Pop open xterm and type "cd /var/log"
[22:24] <musikgoat|main> Rabbitbunny: not for long :-P
[22:24] <grkblood13> yea, im looking for something simple via command line
[22:24] <Rabbitbunny> musikgoat|main: Are they changing that? when? why?
[22:24] <tiredbones> MrStevemanl, that dose not show the parameters one has to pass the read command. I am teaching myself assembly, so I need to know the various par that read wants.
[22:24] <musikgoat|main> c+a+backspace is being disabled by defualt in jaunty
[22:24] <dabbler> so....when is official release time ???
[22:24] <Pelle___> allright rabbit, I'll try that
[22:24] <MaxxTaDeeR> help me please)) how can i run an installed program when there was not installed launcher in applications
[22:24] <bauerbob> thiebaude, uhm... do you mean what i mean?
[22:25] <thiebaude> yup
[22:25] <Rabbitbunny> musikgoat|main: Why?
[22:25] <bauerbob> and where did you get it?
[22:25] <musikgoat|main> Rabbitbunny: to keep people from accidentally restarting... in my opinion its a bad move, but its good for newer people
[22:25] <thiebaude> bauerbob: upgraded from 8.10
[22:25] <susbwoy> Hi, I just want to verify the 56k modem on this laptop will be working. Not sure if it is in this lspci -> http://pastebin.com/m6e943ebc   (buntu 8.10/toshiba satellite u400 laptop). Can anyone point me into direction to find out? kppp is using /dev/modem by default but there is no such device.  hmm
[22:25] <Rabbitbunny> musikgoat|main: No, it's just a bad move, what's the replacement keypress?
[22:25] <lattera> which apt config file do I edit to throttle apt-get?
[22:26] <airtonix> question: intrepid killed the font preview thumbnailer in nautilus.  What to look in next after log?
[22:27] <musikgoat|main> Rabbitbunny: iirc it has zap in the name... let me look again
[22:27] <thiebaude> no i just upgrade through update-manager -d
[22:27] <thiebaude> that was 1 week ago
[22:27] <LordQuackstar> I'm confused with the Users and Groups gui. I installed ubuntu using the script from pendrivelinux.com, meaning nothing has a password, and the account i'm using is ubuntu. However, ubuntu isn't listed as a user. How can i change the password on the account?
[22:27] <airtonix> question: intrepid killed the font preview thumbnailer in nautilus. Is it back in jaunty?
[22:27] <Raere> I know this has probably been asked, but is this the real deal? http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/.pool/ubuntu-9.04-server-i386.iso
[22:27] <joaopinto> !jaunty | airtonix
[22:28] <pepperjack> LordQuackstar: open terminal and type 'passwd'
[22:28] <MrSteveman1> tiredbones: are you sure its the bash read info you actually want, that looks more like a syscall
[22:28] <musikgoat|main> Rabbitbunny: Users who do want this function can enable it in their xorg.conf, or via the command dontzap --disable.
[22:28] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: You can type "nano <file>" to read any of those logs, one will have the error messages in it.
[22:28] <karim> hi
[22:28] <tsimpson> Raere: do not download anything until the release is announced, the images are NOT final
[22:28] <Pelle> how can i see what graphics card I have?
[22:28] <Rabbitbunny> musikgoat|main: Thanks. I'll write that down for the future.
[22:28] <quentusrex> Anyone know how to connect to an open ssh server with a server side key?
[22:28] <tiredbones> MrStevemanl, Yes, it was the syscall. Sorry for not being clear.
[22:28] <bauerbob> thiebaude, so it wasn't final ...but what's your impression?
[22:28] <quentusrex> the server has a public key to give out to those who can connect.
[22:28] <Rabbitbunny> Pelle: lspci
[22:29] <joaopinto> quentusrex, that is something that  you can easily find on google, better explained than here
[22:29] <g4lv4tr0n> what times jaunty out :)
[22:29] <g4lv4tr0n> ?
[22:29] <thiebaude> bauerbob: its faster for me and uses less resources, i had the intel problem before where x would freeze, but yesterday i fixed it
[22:29] <MrSteveman1> tiredbones: so you're looking for info on the syscall then, did you find it?
[22:30] <quentusrex> joaopinto: the difference is that I have generated teh keys on the server, and want to connect into it.
[22:30] <tsimpson> g4lv4tr0n: some time in the next 24 hours
[22:30] <quentusrex> rather than generated the keys on teh client.
[22:30] <thiebaude> bauerbob: its snapier and boot up is fast and notifications i love
[22:30] <MrSteveman1> tiredbones: http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl2_read.htm
[22:30] <bauerbob> sounds great
[22:30] <joaopinto> quentusrex, that is not how it works...
[22:31] <wamng> When will be ubuntu9.04 Released?
[22:31] <icsulescu2> sal
[22:31] <g4lv4tr0n> im using jaunty rc jaunty FTW
[22:31] <TimMc1> My CD drive doesn't work. Can I unpack the Live CD to an extra partition and boot from that?
[22:31] <tsimpson> wamng: probably sometime in the after noon (UTC) on the 23rd
[22:31] <g4lv4tr0n> no more intrepid problems :)
[22:31] <simka> is it possible to use apt-get for installation, and after installation access all the downloaded deb packages, so there is no need to download them for other PCs ?
[22:31] <armagheddonsgw> need some fairly specific help: creative x-fi elite pro card... drivers are only available as source code
[22:32] <joaopinto> TimMc1, no, that will not work
[22:32] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: I've got to reboot, don't freak out.
[22:32] <Nerq> Hey guys
[22:32] <bauerbob> i also can't wait, 'cause i've got a rt61 wireless card and 8.10 kernel has a buggy driver causing a interruption ~1/min, so it's not much, but when you play some online shooter and you hang for 5seconds every minute it's really a pain
[22:32] <Shadow__> Hi
[22:32] <Rabbitbunny> simka: You want a netboot install. it's on the wiki.
[22:32] <tsimpson> !install
[22:32] <TimMc1> joaopinto: 'Cause I definitely got it to boot, but it dropped me into BusyBox.
[22:32] <simka> thanks
[22:32] <joaopinto> simka, when you use apt-get all the downloaded packages will be kept on a local disk cache, you can copy those to other systems
[22:32] <Nerq> Hmm, quick question, what time is 9.04 released?
[22:32] <musikgoat|main> !outyet | nerq
[22:32] <joaopinto> TimMc1, that's is not a succesfull boot ;)
[22:32] <tsimpson> Nerq: probably sometime in the afternoon (UTC) on the 23rd
[22:32] <Rusty_AU> !outyet | nerq
[22:33] <TimMc1> joaopinto: Apparently`dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sda2` is not sufficient. :-P
[22:33] <thiebaude> what channel is the ubuntu party for thursday?
[22:33] <mrwes> !automate
[22:33] <Pelle> Rabbitbunny: ok, I think the "proprietary" drivers for my "geforce 3 ti 200" card messed up my screen, can I get a better driver for it somehow?
[22:33] <Shadow__> I'm at the initramfs prompt because mounting of root partition failed (i messed with keyfile and dm-crypt), i'm able to mount the real root or to fix the error in the keyscript. I need to know either 1) how to continue booting or 2) how to save the modified initrd
[22:33] <Nerq> arh, okay - I knew that it was the 23rd, I just hoped i was around midnight CET, so I could start DLíng it =)
[22:33] <simka> joaopinto: and how do i find local cache? is it in /tmp folder
[22:34] <susbwoy> Hi, I just want to verify the 56k modem on this laptop will be working. Not sure if it is in this lspci -> http://pastebin.com/m6e943ebc   (buntu 8.10/toshiba satellite u400 laptop). Can anyone point me into direction to find out? kppp is using /dev/modem by default but there is no such device.
[22:34] <joaopinto> simka, /var/cache/apt/archives/
[22:34] <gartral1> well... its up.... but how do i set it so the DVI port is the primaray, it just wants to use the vga
[22:34] <bauerbob> Nerq, "Every time you ask if it's out, a bunny dies!"
[22:34] <simka> :)
[22:34] <Nerq> is it out?
[22:34] <Nerq> :P
[22:34] <gartral1> so THATS where Rabbitbunny went?
[22:35] <LjL> !party | please...
[22:35] <Nerq> and btw, I did NOT ask if it was out yet, I asked what time it would be released ;)
[22:35] <bauerbob> :-) ...that's part of the topic in #ubuntu-release-party
[22:35] <PROject-Emerald> I have a Ubuntu problem... kinda weird actually. Whenever I'm using Ubuntu 8.04 for 5-10 minutes and I close FireFox, it will never come back up until I reboot. Kinda annoying tbh. And my sound goes away after about an hour.
[22:35] <PROject-Emerald> Any solutions?
[22:35] <bauerbob> any error messages?
[22:35] <ubuntuguy2> What PC are you using?
[22:35] <gartral1> PROject-Emerald: upgrade?
[22:35] <inter4ever> check if firefox process is still running
[22:35] <psychic1> how do i fix this problem? /[mntent]: line 9 in /etc/fstab is bad
[22:35] <psychic1> mount: can't find /media/cdrom0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab.
[22:36] <PROject-Emerald> Dell Dimension 2400... and I don't want to upgrade AKA why I'm on 8.04
[22:36] <[4-tea-2]> PROject-Emerald: killall -9 firefox
[22:36] <Pelle> anyone know if there's a driver for Geforce3 Ti 200?
[22:36] <PROject-Emerald> Terminal won't load up properly either
[22:36] <TimMc1> Is there a way to install Ubuntu into an unused partition *while* Ubuntu is running from another partition? (CD drive is broken, no alternate boot methods.)
[22:36] <PROject-Emerald> the box comes up but it just stays white inside
[22:36] <[4-tea-2]> PROject-Emerald: it seems your firefox is not really quitting when you close it, perhaps because a plugin won't let it.
[22:36] <gartral1> so, i have an nvidia 6200, how do i use the DVI port as main? right now, i have BOTH ports routed into my monitor, but DVI displays nothing, only VGA...
[22:36] <smittyrock> Rabbitbunny: Are you back now?
[22:36] <PROject-Emerald> But is it normal for nothing to run at all after that?
[22:37] <[4-tea-2]> PROject-Emerald: and when it notices that it's already running, it won't start up.
[22:37] <platius> PROject-Emerald;  have you started firefox from a terminal to see the error msg when you leave ff?
[22:37] <musikgoat|main> TimMc1: flash stick not available?
[22:37] <PROject-Emerald> Terminal won't even load properly... just a white box.
[22:37] <musikgoat|main> TimMc1: i cant answer your direct question, i don't believe you can
[22:37] <[4-tea-2]> PROject-Emerald: changed the color scheme to "white on white"? ;)
[22:37] <bauerbob> you should repair your terminal first, PROject-Emerald
[22:37] <ubuntuguy2> The terminal problem sounds like a problem w/ the X server.
[22:38] <psychic1> anyone know how to fix this [mntent]: line 9 in /etc/fstab is bad
[22:38] <PROject-Emerald> I haven't changed anything. But I just killed all the firefox processes and I'm still having a problem
[22:38] <TimMc1> musikgoat|main: Naw, old BIOS can't boot from thumb drive.
[22:38] <musikgoat|main> psychic1: pastebin your /etc/fstab
[22:38] <PROject-Emerald> How do I repair the terminal and things?
[22:38] <bauerbob> put a # in front of line 9, psychic1
[22:38] <[4-tea-2]> psychic1: look at line 9 in /etc/fstab and fix it.
[22:38] <TimMc1> I can netboot/PXEboot, but... bleargh.
[22:38] <lattera> there's gotta be a way to throttle apt-get, anyone know how?
[22:38] <pepperjack> PROject-Emerald: anything clocking?  `top` command?
[22:38] <lattera> I can't figure out how
[22:38] <musikgoat|main> TimMc1: :-)
[22:38] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: Bam. What'd you find?
[22:38] <Noqq> If I wanted a fast os, did I chose right for Ubuntu?
[22:39] <smittyrock> Rabbitbunny: I looked in auth.log and it had some errors do you think they are the same ones for the 5 boxes?
[22:39] <thiebaude> Noqq: yes
[22:39] <PROject-Emerald> pepperjack: I can't find an alternative to Terminal so I can't run any commands
[22:39] <pepperjack> PROject-Emerald: try alt-ctrl-f2 and login you can alt-f7 to get back to gui
[22:39] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: Probably not, I'd suspect syslog or dmesg, But if you'd like you could paste those errors and we can see.
[22:39] <sunny_> Hey guys im trying to learn programming language Python.  Can anyone help me find the right IRC channel soo someoen can guide me through a good website and all?
[22:39] <bauerbob> Noqq, depends on what you want to be fast ...your desktop? yes. your database application? yes. your windows 3d shooter? no.
[22:39] <lattera> anyone know how to throttle apt-get? I'm on a T-1 shared with 12 other people
[22:40] <|luxalcatraz|> in which channel is release party?
[22:40] <Rabbitbunny> sunny_: #python
[22:40] <bauerbob> sunny_, what about #python?
[22:40] <pepperjack> sunny_: /join #python   the folks there are pretty friendly
[22:40] <LjL> !party | |luxalcatraz|
[22:40] <sunny_> tried that wont let me join
[22:40] <|luxalcatraz|> thanks
[22:40] <sunny_> says i need to be identified first
[22:40] <LjL> !register | sunny_
[22:40] <musikgoat|main> lattera: googling "throttle apt-get" brings up many results
[22:40] <Shadow__> I'm getting the inirtamfs prompt at boot because initramfs cannot mount root. How can i continue the boot after i have mounted it manually?
[22:40] <mib_lxnl0elv> Is wubi being added to the jaunty release?
[22:40] <ubuntuguy2> sunny_, there's a tutorial on the python site
[22:41] <lattera> musikgoat|main, it sure does, but none that apply
[22:41] <LjL> lattera: i'm not aware of any specific method for apt, but "apt-cache search traffic shap" will show a few possibilities to control network traffic
[22:41] <sunny_> really? o nice u got the link for me mate?
[22:41] <LjL> mib_lxnl0elv: it was already in intrepid...?
[22:41] <pies> Hello, is there a way to force-close a network connection?
[22:41] <nasser> !release
[22:41] <ubuntuguy2> sunny_, go to http://docs.python.org/tutorial/
[22:41] <musikgoat|main> lattera: even this one? http://www.go2linux.org/traffic-shaping-with-linux
[22:41] <sunny_> thanks guys
[22:42] <musikgoat|main> lattera:  sudo trickle -d 20 apt-get update && sudo trickle -d 20 apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:42] <Pelle> Geforce3 3d drivers?
[22:43] <Pelle> anyone?
[22:43] <lattera> musikgoat|main, thanks, it's kinda working
[22:43] <lattera> better than before
[22:43] <musikgoat|main> cool
[22:43] <pies> what will happen if I kill dbus-launch?
[22:43] <mib_lxnl0elv> It doesnt seem to be a part of intrepid
[22:44] <Falstaf> Is there a super easy way to upgrade to Jaunty J?
[22:44] <bauerbob> yes, Falstaf
[22:44] <bauerbob> just wait 'til it's released and when you are being asked to upgrade click "yes"
[22:44] <musikgoat|main> Falstaf: alt+f2  and type update-manager -d
[22:44] <Aggrav8d> anyone in here know anything about configuring proftpd?  I know it's not the right forum but nobody's awake in there.
[22:44] <piegod> is it safe to kill the dbus-launch process?
[22:45] <Noqq> I can't seem to find the uninstall option on the livecd. Help please?
[22:45] <elensar-geek> hi all
[22:45] <musikgoat|main> Noqq: if you are in windows, just format the partition that contained ubuntu
[22:45] <smittyrock> Rabbitbunny: Didnt see any errors about nautilus in syslog, or dmesg.
[22:45] <IronRoses> guys! my dad tonight, tried ubuntu and loves it. yet, he uses OS X and is willing to switch to ubuntu if he can find a decent enough video editor which is near good enough as final cut studio
[22:46] <IronRoses> any idea's?
[22:46] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: any errors at all?
[22:46] <Noqq> musikgoI need to get rid of the bootloader
[22:46] <gartral1> so, i have an nvidia 6200, how do i use the DVI port as main? right now, i have BOTH ports routed into my monitor, but DVI displays nothing, only VGA...
[22:46]  * AutoMatriX greets all of you, avé
[22:46] <smittyrock> Yeah, but none of the ones that we first saw when we logged on.
[22:46] <Pelle> is this "Envy" program any good?
[22:46] <Rabbitbunny> Noqq: You've been here twice about that. You don't need to, and you've already been showed a way to do it. Please stop abusing support.
[22:46] <PROject-Emerald> IF I switch to Kubuntu 8.10 or 9.04 will I be able to use Konsole?
[22:46] <musikgoat|main> Noqq: ask in #windows how to force an MBR rewrite
[22:47] <musikgoat|main> from windows
[22:47] <smittyrock> Rabbitbunny:Yeah, but none of the ones that we first saw when we logged on
[22:47] <pepperjack> Pelle: what do you need it for?  id typically recommend using the solutions in the wiki
[22:47] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: Hmm. pastebin?
[22:47] <cirE1> it says new distribution release '9.04' is AVAILABLE!
[22:47] <Pelle> pepperjack: got a link?
[22:47] <Noqq> Rabbitbunny: No one gave me answer. They all say: "ow.. it will overwrite", But I'm not gonna install a new os. I want nothing with Ubuntu anymore, but I don't want to sound disrespectful.
[22:48] <serpico> salve
[22:48] <musikgoat|main> Noqq: i just give you the answer though
[22:48] <pepperjack> Pelle: wiki.ubuntu.com?
[22:48] <LjL> !it | serpico
[22:48] <smittyrock> Rabbitbunny: it would be very difficult to do that as im using my pc to chat with you, and not the pc that has the problem.
[22:48] <noren> !ati | Pelle
[22:48] <Noqq> musikgoat|main: Yes thanks, will check out
[22:48] <serpico> ragazzi devo installare un file *.so ma non trovo un sistema
[22:49] <LjL> !it | serpico, leggi
[22:49] <Pelle> pepperjack, ubottu: thx
[22:49] <nach> how can i prevent my console to treat the ^N character ? it put garbage on my display !
[22:49] <woodenfox> Greetz
[22:49] <armagheddonsgw> ok, how do i install a file that comes as .tar.bz2?
[22:50] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: Ouch. Hmm.You could try googling each error, hopefully google will lead you to a solution.
[22:50] <musikgoat|main> IronRoses: aparently cinelerra is a good candidate
[22:50] <LjL> armagheddonsgw: .tar.bz2 is just a compression format (like .zip). how you install its contents depends on its contents.
[22:50] <serpico> how do i install a file that comes as .so?
[22:50] <smittyrock> Rabbitbunny: i will try that, thank you for all of your advice.
[22:50] <Rabbitbunny> nach: It sounds like a character encoding problem.
[22:50] <musikgoat|main> IronRoses: i'm not familiar with it myself, but some reviews say its the best thing to compare to final cut
[22:50] <myton> How do I login to IRC?
[22:50] <armagheddonsgw> ok fine ill be more specific: firefox
[22:50] <ardian_> HI
[22:50] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: No problem, Have Fun.
[22:51] <woodenfox> I've been pretty dissapointed with video editing in ubuntu...
[22:51] <LjL> armagheddonsgw: programs usually come with a README and an INSTALL file with instructions. please, also keep in mind that you should *always* install programs from the official repositories (not from downloaded files), unless you have no alternative.
[22:51] <bauerbob> serpico, you don't install .so files at all
[22:51] <Shapeshifter> Does someone know a wrapper for apt/aptitude or other apt clients that have pretty output? apt-get is awful. As a demo what I call pretty, this is pacman output (archlinux) http://stuff.moritzg.ch/prettypacman.png Is there something like that to wrap around apt* ? Asking, as I want to use ubuntu-server on a few servers and not arch.
[22:51] <ferronica> when ubuntu 9.04 going to release?
[22:51] <woodenfox> One day
[22:51] <woodenfox> Tomorrow
[22:51] <Rabbitbunny> myton: You're logged in right now, Do you mean register your nickname?
[22:51] <musikgoat|main> ferronica: you've already been told
[22:52] <ardian_> I need Help For Installing java in My Ubuntu 8.10. Please Help:)
[22:52] <myton> Rabbitbunny: That is what I want to do.
[22:52] <woodenfox> Medibuntu
[22:52] <woodenfox> Ardian... get medibuntu repos
[22:52] <Rabbitbunny> myton: type "/msg nickserv help".
[22:52] <armagheddonsgw> err ardian... 2s
[22:52] <smittyrock> Rabbitbunny: If i burn an iso onto a cd, will it still run right in a pc?
[22:53] <musikgoat|main> smittyrock: as opposed to what?
[22:53] <ardian_> Im new To Linux What's Medibuntu ?
[22:53] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: If you create a cd from an ISO, Yes. If you put an ISO on a file CD, No.
[22:53] <woodenfox> sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/intrepid.list --output-document=/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[22:53] <woodenfox> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get update
[22:53] <RoC_MasterMind> !java | ardian_
[22:53] <woodenfox> sudo apt-get ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:53] <smittyrock> Ok, thank you.
 today 23rd :(
 but no update from ubuntu :(
[22:54] <Whitor|> Hi. I've got files in my trash that I cant delete... it says permission denied, what can I do ?
[22:54] <musikgoat|main> !outyet | ferronica
[22:55] <ardian_> i need java for opening Ecilipse When i try to open Ecilipse iv got an errorr
[22:55] <ardian_> A Java Runtime Environment (JRE) or Java Development Kit (JDK)
[22:55] <ardian_> must be available in order to run Eclipse
[22:55] <Pelle11> pepperjack, noren: i tried the restricted nvidia driver but it only supports 640x350 max,
[22:55] <Rabbitbunny> Whitor|: Open a terminal, us cd to get to the right directory, and sudo rm them.
[22:55] <nach> how can i prevent my console to treat the ^N character ? it put garbage on my display !
[22:55] <bauerbob> cool, i also haven't heard of medibuntu so far
[22:55] <Whitor|> Rabbitbunny, Where is the trash dir ?
[22:55] <Rabbitbunny> Whitor|: I was just wondering that.
[22:55] <myton> Rabbitbunny: I get Please log in before attempting to verify your registration
[22:56] <Whitor|> Rabbitbunny, If I had that info... I would be golden
[22:56] <Rabbitbunny> myton: That means something went wrong somewhere. #freenode would be a better place to get support for this issue.
[22:56] <noren> Pelle: use envy
[22:56] <woodenfox> Ardian: This is what I do everytime I setup a new Ubuntu Installation http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dgk9sn2g_259gwngt2z8
[22:56] <love_music> ктонибудт играет в second life ?
[22:56] <Whitor|> Where is the trash directory located ?
[22:56] <LjL> myton: you need /msg nickserv identify myton password
[22:56] <LjL> !ru | love_music
[22:56] <cricket_> irc://irc.freenode.net/#typo3
[22:56] <LjL> !trash | Whitor|
[22:57] <Whitor|> thanks LjL
[22:57] <Rabbitbunny> LjL: You're almost magical.
[22:57] <ardian_> anyone help me to get Java Development Kit (JDK) Please ?
[22:58] <bokey> !tell ardian_ about openjdk
[22:58] <joaopinto> ardian_, search for it on the package manager...
[22:58] <bokey> !tell ardian_ about java
[22:58] <BePhantom> where's 9.04 final version? it's already 23rd in some parts of the world :D
[22:58] <joaopinto> you want the openjdk
[22:58] <nolan_> whats up people
[22:58] <coldserver> Everytime my machine starts, I want to run a certain process. How do I do this in linux/ubuntu?
[22:58] <LjL> !outyet > BePhantom    (BePhantom, see the private message from ubottu)
[22:58] <ardian_> oh sorry i did'nt See it
[22:58] <LjL> !offtopic > nolan_    (nolan_, see the private message from ubottu)
[22:58] <psychic> i need some asstance with a /etc/fstab problem
[22:58] <nolan_> yea what about it
[22:59] <Pelle11> noren, allright'
[22:59] <psychic> line 9 is bad and i cant fix it
[22:59] <picaboo> hello ubunturos! :)
[22:59] <musikgoat|main> !pastebin | psychic
[23:00] <serpico> good night
[23:00] <psychic> can some one tell me somthing beside pastebin
[23:00] <nolan_> anyone wanna talk
[23:00] <bauerbob> psychic, "cat /etc/fstab" and copy&paste the contents to pastebin
[23:00] <smittyrock> Rabbitbunny:Im back. I have the full error for nautilus now, do you want me to put it up on that site?
[23:00] <bauerbob> psychic, then tell us the link
[23:00] <musikgoat|main> psychic: i would like to see /etc/fstab   that is why i suggested the link
[23:00] <psychic> ok thank you i'll read up
[23:00] <bauerbob> psychic, so that we can see YOUR /etc/fastab
[23:00] <bauerbob> -a
[23:01] <psychic> i dont know the link if someone wants to remote view that would be fine with me
[23:01] <psychic> hold on let me read on how
[23:01] <musikgoat|main> psychic: (05:00:28 PM) bauerbob: psychic, "cat /etc/fstab" and copy&paste the contents to pastebin
[23:01] <sunny_> hey guys anyone knows a good IDE for Python development? something like DevC++ for windows i need something on linux
[23:02] <jhaig|home> I'm sure this is a very simple problem.  I have a local dns server set up with hostnames and ip addresses for machines on the local network.  If I do "nslookup <hostname>" it returns the correct information but then "ping <hostname>" gets 'unknown host'.  /etc/nsswitch.conf has "hosts: files nis dns"
[23:02] <LjL> !code
[23:02] <sunny_> ok soo i can program python on quanta that is awesome thanks :)
[23:02] <Tecna> Does the final release of Jaunty come out today or tomorrow?
[23:02] <Falstaf> Is anyone using version 9.04 -- is it worthwhile to upgrade?
[23:02] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: Sure, if you can.
[23:02] <smittyrock> Rabbitbunny: What is the site address again?
[23:03] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: pastebin.com
[23:03] <ublender> hey, where are all the .desktop files for the application menu stored?
[23:03] <Foor> Good News Everyone Ubuntu 9.04 arrives tomorrow!
[23:03] <Paddy_EIRE> ublender: usr/share/applications
[23:03] <LjL> !party > Foor    (Foor, see the private message from ubottu)
[23:03] <Paddy_EIRE> ublender: I am pretty sure its around there anyway :P
[23:03] <ublender> Paddy_EIRE: thanks
[23:03] <bauerbob> sunny_, you can use netbeans, but its python support is still beta
[23:04] <Tecna> !party > Tecna
[23:04] <techman224> Does Ubuntu 9.04 go live at 0:00 UTC?
[23:04] <sunny_> bauerbob: hey thanks mate im going to download that right now
[23:04] <musikgoat|main> techman224: historically, no
[23:04] <BePhantom> Foor: it's already tomorrow in some parts of the globe ;)
[23:05] <musikgoat|main> usually people sleep around that time... i wouldn't expect it until afternoon UTC on the 23rd
[23:05] <sunny_> bauerbob: does netbean support cpp atm?
[23:05] <talntid> 9.04 on the 23rd?
[23:05] <techman224> Those people must be wondering where is it?
[23:05] <talntid> aww... they shouldn't have.. that's my birthday... :)
[23:05] <musikgoat|main> happy birthday talntid
[23:05] <bauerbob> sunny_, yes
[23:06] <picaboo> hippi bday
[23:06] <sunny_> bauerbob: thanks bud
[23:06] <Spipe> salut salut et joyeux anniversaire ^^
[23:06] <talntid> thanks :)
[23:06] <LjL> !fr
[23:06] <picaboo> :)
[23:06] <psychic> what should i call the poster on paste bin
[23:06] <psychic> ?
[23:06] <musikgoat|main> psychic: its not important, leave it blank
[23:06] <GLOBUS> Someone have premium account on speedyshare.com
[23:06] <musikgoat|main> !ot | GLOBUS
[23:06] <bauerbob> psychic, call it "psychic" (yes, that's you!)
[23:07] <smittyrock> Rabbitbunny: I just put it up, take a look.
[23:07] <smittyrock> Rabbitbunny: I get that same error whenever i try to open up anything.
[23:07] <psychic> ok i pasted it now what
[23:08] <musikgoat|main> give us the URL
[23:08] <bauerbob> tell us the url, psychic
[23:08] <psychic> http://paste.ubuntu.com/156166/
[23:08] <white-rabbit-obj> anyone ever successfully bridged a wireless and wired interface?
[23:08] <smittyrock> Rabbitbunny:Except terminal.
[23:09] <bauerbob> psychic, looks like there are 2 lines in 1 line in line 9
[23:09] <white-rabbit-obj> when I bring up my bridge, either the wired works, the wireless works but never both...
[23:09] <bauerbob> so go to "0/mnt" and break the line after the "0"
[23:09] <Led_Hed> I'm trying to get a bluetooth mouse working.  When I scan for devices, the mouse if found.  but the mouse still doesnt work.  I also tried hidd --connect <Device MAC>  but still no luck.  Any Ideas?
[23:09] <sunny_> bauerbob: i downloaded netbean but under plugins i see c++ but nothing about python
[23:09] <musikgoat|main> bauerbob: that wont be the only thing that needs fixing
[23:10] <psychic> so what can i do to fix it
[23:10] <bauerbob> sunny_, just a second
[23:10] <musikgoat|main> psychic: in a terminal, type sudo nano /etc/fstab
[23:11] <musikgoat|main> bauerbob: i'm wrong, i mis read his paste
[23:11] <psychic> got it
[23:11] <Crash1hd> simNIX: figured it would make more sense to be in here :) since thats where I am going to learn more :)
[23:12] <simNIX> :)
[23:12] <musikgoat|main> psychic: then go to the bottom line, and move to 0/mnt     and hit enter after the 0
[23:12] <simNIX> reading up in both is realy educational
[23:12] <musikgoat|main> psychic: so that /mnt is on the next line
[23:12] <kevin_> uvacav
[23:12] <kevin_> sdj
[23:12] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: You've got to give me a link, it's pretty hard to catch them flying by.
[23:12] <musikgoat|main> although i'm not sure why you need two swap
[23:13] <psychic> i have the swap because my computer was running slow with ubuntu
[23:13] <smittyrock> Rabbitbunny: Did you see the post on the pastebin website?
[23:14] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: No, they fly by pretty quick, You've got to give me a URL.
[23:14] <psychic> on board graphics and only 470 megs of ram after word
[23:14] <musikgoat|main> psychic: but you have two lines that seem to be mounting swap space
[23:14] <barby> Ciao a tutti
[23:14] <psychic> o ok
[23:14] <LjL> !it | barby
[23:14] <bauerbob> sunny_, in the development release you can find it in the plugins ...but i guess you downloaded the latest stable one, right?
[23:14] <psychic> i'm quite novice
[23:14] <musikgoat|main> psychic: after you've moved /mnt to the next line,  put a #  in front of it
[23:14] <x-ip> in which hour will be 9.01 ? :D
[23:14] <barby> Hi guys
[23:14] <smittyrock> Rabbitbunny: It is http://pastebin.com/m7ae2017f
[23:15] <barby> I need help to confiugure my new ubuntu installation
[23:15] <dassouki> i have 8.10 asus f9s laptop, how can i install my built in cam
[23:15] <musikgoat|main> psychic: so it should look like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/156172/
[23:15] <x-ip> dassouki: do u know which chispset it has ?
[23:15] <barby> I have got a Aspire 3053WXMI and the audio is NOT present
[23:15] <dassouki> x-ip: negative sir
[23:15] <dassouki> how can i find that
[23:15] <x-ip> dassouki: use pastebin.ca and paste the command sudo lspci -vv
[23:16] <smittyrock> Download the webcam software from add/remove
[23:16] <bauerbob> x-ip, it's not 9.01. it's 9.04 (04 being the month of the release)
[23:16] <x-ip> so we can see which chipset it uses and try to find a kernel module that makes it work
[23:16] <barby> there is the icon at the top of the screen in a toolbar but the sound is not present
[23:16] <x-ip> bauerbob: right, sorry
[23:16] <barby> I have pumped up the volume but nothing
[23:16] <t1000> has anyone else here experienced ibex to be slower and having way more segfaults after updating the kernel to version 2.6.27?
[23:16] <second_thought> hi, I was wondering if a wan ip changes?
[23:16] <smittyrock> Rabbirbunny: Did you get the link?
[23:16] <psychic> brb
[23:16] <barby> how can I solve this problem?
[23:16] <x-ip> bauerbob: do you know in which hour will be the final isos uploaded ? :D
[23:16] <t1000> mine's 2.6.27-11.31
[23:17]  * x-ip wants to upgrade x'D
[23:17] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: Did you remove the package ubuntu-desktop at any point5?
[23:17] <bauerbob> x-ip, no
[23:17] <x-ip> :,(
[23:17] <handlehere> second: yes it can unless you got a fixed one from your isp wich normally cost's extra
[23:17] <x-ip> snfi
[23:17] <second_thought> is a wan ip address like an ip address that has been routed through dhcp?
[23:17] <bauerbob> sunny_, you might try this one: http://deadlock.netbeans.org/hudson/job/python/lastStableBuild/
[23:17] <smittyrock> Rabbitbunny: No, i didnt.
[23:17] <musikgoat|main> second_thought: no
[23:17] <Rabbitbunny> hmm
[23:17] <second_thought> so the wan is static?
[23:17] <bauerbob> i couldn't find a better link to download the module for 6.5.1
[23:18] <musikgoat|main> second_thought: not necessarily
[23:18] <second_thought> hmm.. How so musikgoat?
[23:18] <handlehere> second: no
[23:18] <bauerbob> sunny_, or you just download a whole netbeans installation again, but with python support only: http://download.netbeans.org/netbeans/6.5/python/ea/start.html?platform=linux&lang=en&option=python
[23:18] <MarkJones> Do new releases get released at midnight or no? Im anxious.
[23:18] <bauerbob> MarkJones, no
[23:19] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: try running "killall bonobo-activation-server", and logging out, then back in.
[23:19] <musikgoat|main> second_thought: i think you are not understanding the definition of a wan ip address.   it simply means what the outside ip address that others talk to on a router/gateway
[23:19] <smittyrock> Rabbitbunny: Will do.
[23:19] <dassouki> x-ip: http://pastebin.com/d663fb80
[23:19] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: If that doesn't work you're going to need to reinstall ubuntu-desktop..
[23:20] <Rabbitbunny> Hmm. If you simply apt-get a package you already have... what would it do?
[23:20] <x-ip> dassouki: checking
[23:20] <second_thought> Oh, is see, I'm new with this. I'm trying to setup a server to be remotely accessible through the net
[23:20] <musikgoat|main> second_thought: likely, your ISP has granted you a wan IP address,  which may change, or may remain static.   I have comcast, which give dhcp addresses,  but if i don't reboot my modem, my IP doesn't change
[23:20] <Patrick904> Does anyone have experience with gnome-do docky?
[23:20] <musikgoat|main> second_thought: I would suggest setting up a dyndns account
[23:21] <P13808> I have a problem
[23:21] <second_thought> yes, as a matter of fact I have one
[23:21] <second_thought> and I'm trying to figure out what address to bind it to
[23:21] <musikgoat|main> second_thought: if your IP does change, dyndns would be updated, and you would still be reachable
[23:21] <Rabbitbunny> P13808: GHo ahead and ask, we're all waiting.
[23:22] <musikgoat|main> second_thought: you don't bind it to an address,  you set a client to update to the web service
[23:22] <second_thought> brb
[23:22] <P13808> The boot screen is done loading(as it's about to go to the login screen) I must input something via mouse and keyboard
[23:22] <Rabbitbunny> musikgoat|main: later note of you didn't know, many DSL modems have a dyndns client built in.
[23:23] <musikgoat|main> nice
[23:23] <musikgoat|main> but how many people know how to login to thier modem... i'm not opening that can of worms ;-)
[23:23] <Rabbitbunny> I always wondered why my ISP told me not to host, then gave me the tools. who knows.
[23:24] <Rabbitbunny> P13808: Is english your first language?
[23:24] <meinte> Command for restarting gnome-panels anyone?
[23:24] <musikgoat|main> meinte: sudo killall gnome-panel
[23:24] <P13808> Yes, English is my first language
[23:24] <x-ip> dassouki: plz also paste sudo lsusb
[23:24] <x-ip> because at lspci i cant find ur webcam :S
[23:24] <meinte> musikgoat|main,  ty
[23:24] <Rabbitbunny> P13808: Okay, The problem you're describing doesn't make much sense, Could you expand on it.
[23:25] <smittyrock> Rabbitbunny: ok.
[23:25] <P13808> The boot screen(with the orange bar) finishes loading.  Then the screen goes black.  If I don't click the mouse/bash the keyboard within the next second or two the whole system will lock at the black screen.
[23:26] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: everything worked?
[23:26] <Patrick904> I have a question, can I change the location of /home/patrick/videos to /media/sda1/my movies?
[23:26] <bauerbob> good night
[23:26] <Rabbitbunny> Patrick904: symlink
[23:26] <Patrick904> What is that?
[23:26] <musikgoat|main> Rabbitbunny: ot, i know, but i know this dude named Bunny, who is an amazing live performer
[23:26] <Rabbitbunny> Patrick904: That's what you need to use to do what you want.
[23:27] <Patrick904> Alright
[23:27] <Patrick904> I will google it
[23:27] <Rabbitbunny> musikgoat|main: I just fix cars and smell funny.
[23:27] <musikgoat|main> lol
[23:27] <gverig> has anybody been able to build o3d?
[23:27] <dassouki> x-ip: http://pastebin.com/d391c53bb
[23:27] <x-ip> chcecking ...
[23:27] <Rabbitbunny> P13808: What does the system log say?
[23:28] <x-ip> dassouki: there it is, Syntek web cam
[23:28] <CaneToad> Does anybody know how, with xsane, to change the scan brightness/darkness when scanning lineart (black and white) images?
[23:28] <P13808> System log?
[23:28] <TylerE> I'm seeing some very weird things in 8.10, trying to get my fonts looking good. Appearance tab in gnome keeps resetting, and I can't get any set of options to 'stick'.
[23:28] <musikgoat|main> second_thought: ddclient is a good command line utility for updating dyndns on a regular basis
[23:28] <Rabbitbunny> P13808: /var/log
[23:29] <detrate> tihs makes me so happy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nautilus/+bug/185387
[23:29] <sunny_> bauerbob: thanks mate what i did is installed from synaptic which did not install all the supports im downloading it directly from the site now with all the features in it
[23:29] <x-ip> dassouki: http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=4343 here says that ur webcam uses stk11xx kernel module to work, if u type sudo lsmod, did u see that module in the list ?
[23:30] <DoyleChris> could somebody help me with serial ata problems
[23:30] <musikgoat|main> DoyleChris: explain whats wrong
[23:30] <dassouki> x-ip: will it be in the used by or module column
[23:30] <dassouki> the first or the third
[23:30] <DoyleChris> i have a Via serial ata chip set and a 250 gig SATA drive and i cant get ubuntu to see it
[23:31] <digitalvaldosta> :|
[23:31] <mheath> Is there a "ubuntu" style way for a program to make a configuration change to the Grub menu.lst ? (Specifically, to add a kernel command line parameter) Short of just opening the file for editing, I was wondering if there was a way that plays well with future kernel upgrades.
[23:31] <x-ip> dassouki: i didnt understand u, sorry x'D, what u mean ?
[23:31] <DoyleChris> i dont wnat to run raid just 1 hard drive
[23:31] <jv_> how do I ... ;)
[23:31] <jv_> hi all
[23:31] <DoyleChris> i do fdisk -l and it dosent see it
[23:31] <musikgoat|main> DoyleChris: does lspci see the via sata card?
[23:31] <digitalvaldosta> Can anyone tell me why my background pic that I upload to Twitter won't show up? I saved it to a .jpg>:o
[23:31] <jv_> DoyleChris: that is indeed the case
[23:31] <dassouki> x-ip: http://pastebin.com/d695d3f19
[23:32] <P13808> Whoah, I went to turn on my computer(my Ubuntu box doesn't have an Internet connection) and it worked for some reason.
[23:32] <DoyleChris> how do i check
[23:32] <jv_> it should..as far as fdisk -l sometimes does nto work, period
[23:32] <JoeSolo> DoyleChris: Does your BIOS have an IDE mode for SATA?  I've read that that will sort out most HDD problems with VIA chipset mobos
[23:32] <musikgoat|main> DoyleChris: in a terminal, type lspci
[23:32] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: Everything fixed?
[23:32] <digitalvaldosta> Is this a Ubuntu/ Gimp issue? I have never had an issue like this with Ubuntu/Gimp before.
[23:32] <MrSteveman1> mheath: there is /etc/default/grub which lets you set global options, but i'm not sure if thats for both grub2 and grub1
[23:32] <musikgoat|main> jv_: thats a rediculous statement,  fdisk -l does what its supposed to do
[23:33] <JoeSolo> VIA implemented some proprietary interface for their SATA chips
[23:33] <DoyleChris> it sees a raid bus controllar
[23:33] <x-ip> dassouki: seems its not loaded the module, try this: sudo modprobe stk11xx, it should get u back to the shell without gives any error, it works ?
[23:34] <Anacranom> i tried to add a network printer shared on a windows box- received message- "There were no print shares found.  Please check that the Samba service is marked as trusted in your firewall configuration. To do this, select System->Administration->Firewall from the main menu." But there is no "Firewall" there, and i edited the menu and there's no option to add it, anyone know where this is?
[23:34] <digitalvaldosta> :D Twitter, the end of the world. :D
[23:34] <JoeSolo> having major problems with using a SATA DVD writer on my mobo... but Ubuntu does "see" the drive and I'm able to use it as a DVD rom - just no encrypted discs and I can't write
[23:35] <JoeSolo> DoyleChris: When you boot up, is the drive listed when your SATA / RAID initialises?
[23:35] <dassouki> x-ip: sudo  modprobe stk11xx,
[23:35] <dassouki> oops
[23:35] <DoyleChris> checking
[23:35] <musikgoat|main> DoyleChris: could it be as simple as the via only supports ata/150 and your hard drive is ata/300 ?
[23:35] <DoyleChris> it is 150
[23:35] <dassouki> x-ip: FATAL: Module stk11xx, not found.
[23:35] <musikgoat|main> ok
[23:35] <DoyleChris> sees it
[23:35] <x-ip> dassouki: ok ... you will have to compile it but ... let me check if its another way to do that ...
[23:36] <x-ip> dassouki: do u understand french ? :P http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/syntek
[23:36] <x-ip> almost the commands are in english ^.^''
[23:37] <dassouki> x-ip: t'es francais
[23:37] <digitalvaldosta> 8-)I need some help. . . Can anyone tell me why I create a pic in gimp and upload it for my background to Twitter and it says everything went fine but nothing shows in the background except my color? :-/
[23:37] <thewrath> who sent me a message
[23:37] <coolmadmax> I have ubuntu system 8.04 and laptop fedora 10.What i try to do is connect internet with ubuntu system (dial up) and with LAN network connect my laptop to internet.Local network working fine because i set up manualy ip address and with ftp i establish connection. I have DNS address for my internet server(all ready inside ip4)for ubuntu system and laptop).Once
[23:37] <x-ip> dassouki: well, u are with luck this time, follow that tutorial, if u have questions come back :)
[23:38] <mib_1onudz> hi, how do you remove the background of an image automatically in OpenOffice Drawer?
[23:38] <digitalvaldosta> If you want to tell me if you see one go to: >> twitter.com/digitalvaldosta
[23:38] <Rabbitbunny> digitalvaldosta: Grab a jpeg from the internet, upload it. see if that works, otherwise, this is the wrong channel.
[23:38] <DoyleChris> it sees it
[23:38] <DoyleChris> quit
[23:39] <dassouki> when a command says to do 'uname -r' does that mean 'dassouki -r' ?
[23:39] <digitalvaldosta> Rabbitbunny, I only came here cause I thought it could be an issue within Ubuntu. But thanks for the idea.
[23:39] <musikgoat|main> digitalvaldosta: i see your face
[23:39] <Rabbitbunny> dassouki: No.
[23:39] <gotsanity> Im trying to run an application in a dedicated X server but i am not getting any sound. Any suggestions?
[23:39] <Rabbitbunny> dassouki: it means 'uname -r'
[23:40] <mado> hi guys and gals ...
[23:40] <Rabbitbunny> digitalvaldosta: it could be, but try that first.
[23:40] <digitalvaldosta> musikgoat|main, Thats my pic for the profile but I am trying to put an image as the background. it looks like a business card with a thumb holding it.
[23:40] <mado> can you help me to alter a command a bit? ... the manpages can't help me at the moment ...
[23:40] <coolmadmax> I have ubuntu system 8.04 and laptop fedora 10.What i try to do is connect internet with ubuntu system (dial up) and with LAN
[23:40] <Rabbitbunny> mado: Sure.
[23:40] <danes> hello, anyone knows the name of an application to load the kernel of an iso distribution into a usb memory?
[23:41] <mado> sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda ... Rabbitbunny
[23:41] <coolmadmax> network connect my laptop to internet.Local network working fine because i set up manualy ip address and with ftp i establish connection.
[23:41] <Rabbitbunny> mado: You know what that does?
[23:41] <coolmadmax> I have DNS address for my internet server(all ready inside ip4)for ubuntu system and laptop).Once i connect to internet with my local network
[23:41] <mado> i heard this command would delete everything i have on my hard disk ... and would then write "zeroes"
[23:41] <mado> Rabbitbunny,
[23:42] <m1r> hello
[23:42] <coolmadmax> n i couldn't establish working firefox to search or Xchat connect to any server(No proxy or firewall).When i disconnect local network
[23:42] <mado> is this true Rabbitbunny ?
[23:42] <Rabbitbunny> mado: Yes, It will.
[23:42] <joshjtl> hey folks whats the very easiest way to run ie6 on ubuntu? wine? vm?
[23:42] <m1r> how could i add user to www:data group ?
[23:42] <musikgoat|main> digitalvaldosta: hmm  could it be the size requirements?  can you give me the source image to test?
[23:42] <coolmadmax> nd dial again i establish internet and my firefox working fine i Xchat.What is the problem?Why i could not establish internet connection?
[23:42] <musikgoat|main> digitalvaldosta: Images must be smaller than 800k. GIF, JPG, PNG.
[23:42] <mado> hmm ... ok ... is there a way to write something different on the hdd? ... like 0 and 1 ... or random things?
[23:42] <jv_> joshjtl: dunno...why do you need it?
[23:42] <Rabbitbunny> coolmadmax: You need to share internet.
[23:42] <joshjtl> jv_: web design
[23:43] <musikgoat|main> mado: /dev/urandom
[23:43] <mado> and is there a way to run this command more often?
[23:43] <Rabbitbunny> mado: sure, instead of using /dev/zero you could use /dev/urandom
[23:43] <mado> musikgoat|main, Rabbitbunny -> and is it possible to run this command more often?
[23:43] <digitalvaldosta> the image is only 32k and is jpg and png (i tried both)
[23:43] <digitalvaldosta> musikgoat|main
[23:43] <Rabbitbunny> mado: Why?
[23:44] <musikgoat|main> mado: what do you mean, more often?
[23:44] <jv_> joshjtl: ie6 ..humm.. wine?
[23:44] <mado> delete ... write ... delete again ... write again ... and so on musikgoat|main Rabbitbunny
[23:44] <digitalvaldosta> musikgoat|main, sending the file
[23:44] <musikgoat|main> mado: hmm,  you could bash script a for loop that does it a set number of times
[23:44] <jv_> joshjtl: http://www.howtoadvice.com/UbuntuIE/
[23:45] <joshjtl> thx
[23:45] <jv_> joshjtl: google Is your friend
[23:45] <musikgoat|main> digitalvaldosta: pidgin is the suck sometimes for file transfers
[23:45] <m1r> how to add curent user to www group ?
[23:45] <EoL{s}> Hi, everyone.
[23:45] <mado> uhuu ...
[23:45] <mado> *thinking*
[23:45] <musikgoat|main> digitalvaldosta: i didn't get it
[23:45] <jv_> hi
[23:46] <magaio> Is everyone else's Nautilus's folder completion not working?
[23:46] <spaceBARbarian> whats the easiest way to install php apache mysql on ubuntu ?
[23:46] <digitalvaldosta> musikgoat|main, what bout now?
[23:46] <Crash1hd> IM curious if I open a folder on ubuntu thats on a ntfs drive that has a windows virus on it called virut.nbm (it attaches itself to all .exe files) will it run havoc on my ubuntu system or can I use an anti virus program to actually irradicate it finally since I cant seem to do that with windows
[23:46] <danes> how can I install unetbootin in ubuntu?
[23:46] <mattwj2002> hi guys :)
[23:46] <jv_> spaceBARbarian: look for lammp I think...
[23:46] <mattwj2002> anyone know if the acer aspire one is 64 bit?
[23:47] <Nikola> what's the link to ubuntu party release Channel?
[23:47] <danes> do you guys play wow?
[23:47] <jv_> spaceBARbarian: there are several pre-made packages for CMS, for example
[23:47] <Nikola> !outyet
[23:47] <jv_> like joomla
[23:47] <Nikola> nvm guys...
[23:48] <mado> musikgoat|main, Rabbitbunny ... i'm just looking for some things my boss would probably ask me ... for example ... what if she / he asked me to make sure that the files on the business computers' hdd are completly removed?
[23:48] <jv_> joshjtl: http://www.google.com/search?q=install+ie6+ubuntu&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
[23:48] <traskbt> danes, just ask your question please.
[23:49] <danes> I already asked but nobody answers
[23:49] <jv_> ahahaha
[23:49] <jv_> everyone is asleep
[23:49] <Joelito> hi
[23:49] <mado> then i could tell her / him that this would be the right command ... ... you know Rabbitbunny musikgoat|main that the files aren't completly removed if you just reformat the hdd ...
[23:49] <jv_> yes, danes qhat is your question?
[23:49] <Joelito> I just woke up
[23:49] <Joelito> hehe, really ¬¬
[23:49] <musikgoat|main> mado:  yes, i know
[23:49] <[Alex]> err got a problem: windows wont boot after installing ubuntu
[23:49] <mortsmel> hmm
[23:49] <mado> or should i tell them that they should destroy it with a hammer musikgoat|main Rabbitbunny ?
[23:50] <musikgoat|main> mado: thats a way to do it :-)
[23:50] <traskbt> danes, "sudo apt-get install unetbootin"
[23:50] <traskbt> Run that in terminal
[23:50] <mado> :) musikgoat|main ... and what if they want to sell the hdds?
[23:50] <mado> then i can suggest these command can't i?
[23:50] <jv_> I have a question: how to get independent financially without going to jail and without working too much?
[23:51] <Rabbitbunny> mado: Yeah, two or three passes of urandom data would be good enough for that.
[23:51] <Rabbitbunny> also, what's like ln but lets you symlink an entire directory?
[23:51] <blip-> was there some hickup with the upcoming release of 9.04 ?   I checked the website yesterday and it said 2 days left... now it just says coming soon
[23:51] <spaceBARbarian> whats the easiest way to install php apache mysql on ubuntu ?
[23:51] <jv_> jeez
[23:51] <Rabbitbunny> spaceBARbarian: get the server version.
[23:51] <mado> and how long do you think does this procedure take? Rabbitbunny
[23:51] <iceroot> spaceBARbarian: sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql-server
[23:52] <grkblood13> any1 got soem experience streaming vlc here?
[23:52] <mado> jv_, wrong room ... but ... what about winning the lottery? :)
[23:52] <jv_> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu%3Aen-US%3Aunofficial&hs=jA6&q=+whats+the+easiest+way+to+install+php+apache+mysql+on+ubuntu&btnG=Search
[23:52] <jv_> mado: ;)
[23:52] <Rabbitbunny> mado: I did it once on a 20gb, took something like an hour iirc. Honestly I don't bother, just delete the partition tables and call it good.
[23:52] <mado> or living a life with a garden and some animals :)
[23:52] <sunny> wow i must say i am really impressed with netbeans
[23:53] <rbelem> Hi all, i'm getting an error when I try to run pyversions http://paste.ubuntu.com/156180/. I'm running ubuntu jaunty. Anyone with the same problem?
[23:53] <Lord_Devi> spaceBARbarian: Xamp is a good standard LAMP stack. Works the same on all distros. Turnkey.org has it's own Ubuntu based LAMP appliance too... (That one is quite minimal)
[23:53] <iceroot> Lord_Devi: of course xampp is not a good idea
[23:53] <mado> jv_, this could help you too ... the animals and the garden will help you to get some food
[23:53] <iceroot> Lord_Devi: using apache2 php5 mysql-server phpmyadmin from the repos is much better
[23:53] <spaceBARbarian> Lord_Devi: thanks,xamp looks good
[23:53] <jv_> Lord_Devi: that what i was thinking but was too lazy to dig
[23:54] <mado> sheep -> wool ... probably milk? :) jv_
[23:54] <Lord_Devi> iceroot: I don't like it myself. I prefer just Ubuntu's MOTO stuff. But Xamp has saved me before still..
[23:54] <alienkid10> what's the release party chan?
[23:54] <MarkJones> #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty
[23:54] <LjL> !party
[23:54] <mado> well Rabbitbunny ... musikgoat|main ... ok ... thanks so far ... *i'm thinking now*
[23:54] <jewome62> Hi
[23:54] <linxdev> Hello
[23:54] <mado> there's a party? :)
[23:55] <mado> i haven't been invited :)
[23:55] <linxdev> Anyone know what time 9.04 will be released?
[23:55] <jv_> what about making a browd mob somewhere for ubuntu users? I would go in my area
[23:55] <MarkJones> april 23
[23:55] <mado> linxdev, i'm not sure but i guess some server have it already
[23:55] <iceroot> linxdev:yes i think anyone will know that
[23:55] <Lord_Devi> iceroot: http://www.turnkeylinux.org/appliances/lamp  <-- this is a better "Appliance" Lamp stack
[23:55] <blip-> I are ubuntu'
[23:55] <Lord_Devi> as it's 8.04.2 based...
[23:55] <jewome62> I'm french and in france this is 23/04/2009 00:56:00
[23:55] <mado> i thought i saw a hungarian server some time before
[23:55] <iceroot> Lord_Devi: just use sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql-server phpmyadmin
[23:56] <jewome62> where is the Jackalope?
[23:56] <mado> jewome62, relax :) ... it'll be hopping around soon
[23:56] <Pelle> Hej! I need a good/free no-ip service, suggestions? no-ip.com any good?
[23:56] <Lord_Devi> iceroot: that appliance is only 150 megs though. It's the exact same thing, but very trimmed for creating deployments and such. Anyway. Just though i'd point it out, turnkeylinux doesn't seem very common knowledge
[23:56] <m1r> how to add curent user to www data group?
[23:56] <musikgoat|main> mado: for x in `seq 1 10`;do dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/xdy; done
[23:57] <geoaxis> Pelle: for what
[23:57] <strtok_> I have defined my own (mocked) recv function, but the linker keeps using the version from libsocket
[23:57] <Lord_Devi> They have more such "Appliances" based on 8.04.2 there too. I'm holding my breath for a good Groupware Appliance.
[23:57] <strtok_> I don't explicitly link against libsocket, and I want to disable the implicit link
[23:57] <Pelle> for a dynamic ip
[23:57] <strtok_> any suggestions?
[23:57] <strtok_> -nostdlib and -nodefaultlibs do not appear to help
[23:57] <FloodBot2> strtok_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:57] <mado> musikgoat|main, pardon me? i can't understand this
[23:57] <Psi-Jack> Is there any chance of getting Ubuntu's installation to detect and use the VIA RAID IDE controller for installation? I can see all the hard drives on the system, but the ones linked on a Raid-0 array just show up as individual hard drives and as unallocated.
[23:57] <genii> jewome62: Don't worry it will appear sometime before midnight of 23rd in Samoa
[23:57] <iceroot> Lord_Devi: always use the repo versions of original softare
[23:57] <iceroot> Psi-Jack: use the alternate cd
[23:57] <geoaxis> Pelle:  dyndns.org
[23:57] <mado> what does this mean in plain english or plain german? :)
[23:57] <Psi-Jack> iceroot: Hmm, only the alternate cd can do it, through textmode install?
[23:57] <iceroot> Psi-Jack: 8.10 alternate is detecting (fake)raid
[23:57] <mado> musikgoat|main, :)
[23:57] <mado> what does this mean in plain english or plain german? :)
[23:58] <Pelle> is that the best and simplest, geoaxis?
[23:58] <iceroot> Psi-Jack: fakeraid, yes, normal raid also works with normal installer
[23:58] <anthony_> is there a minimal CD available for Jaunty?
[23:58] <geoaxis> Pelle:  it has worked for me, they offer free version too
[23:58] <Psi-Jack> iceroot: I see. Well that's a bummer.
[23:58] <Pelle> allright, thx
[23:58] <iceroot> anthony_: yes
[23:58] <gartral1> so, i have an nvidia 6200, how do i use the DVI port as main? right now, i have BOTH ports routed into my monitor, but DVI displays nothing, only VGA...
[23:58] <iceroot> !donwload | anthony_
[23:58] <Rabbitbunny> Pelle: I also use it. rock solid.
[23:58] <iceroot> !download | anthony_
[23:59] <geoaxis> ~bot
[23:59] <psychic> for some reason i have to fstabs
[23:59] <psychic> 2*
[23:59] <geoaxis> any eta on release
[23:59] <jv_> any portuguese paisanos here?
[23:59] <jewome62> No no, I wouldn't install now Jauty, I go to sleep but i would know what is the Time zone use to ubuntu's cycle


[05:36] <inetpro> goeie more
[05:48] <Kilos> morning all
[06:21] <ThatGraemeGuy> greetings and salutations good people of #ubuntu-za
[06:22] <Kilos> morning ThatGraemeGuy
[06:23] <Kilos> ohi superfly hekkwan
[06:23] <superfly> hi Kilos
[06:24] <Kilos> 8ta rocking Fetched 75,3 MB in 3min 13s (390 kB/s)
[06:30] <Squirm> morning
[06:31] <Kilos> hi Squirm
[07:02] <Kilos> hi Wraz
[07:02] <Kilos> you are one of the silent type hey
[07:36] <Wraz> Yup
[09:59] <charl> good morning
[09:59] <charl> Maaz_: coffee on
[09:59]  * Maaz_ flips the salt-timer
[10:00] <Kilos> hi psyatw charl
[10:00] <Kilos> Maaz_, coffee please
[10:00] <Maaz_> Kilos: Sure
[10:00] <psyatw> hi Kilos
[10:00] <psyatw> good morning charl
[10:00] <charl> hi psyatw
[10:00] <charl> hi Kilos
[10:01] <charl> coffee in the morning is like pre-dinner mayonaise, it's good for you
[10:03] <Maaz_> Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos!
[10:03] <Kilos> Maaz_, ty
[10:03] <Maaz_> You are welcome Kilos
[15:57] <Kilos> hmm...
[16:28] <Kilos> inetpro, fix it
[16:28] <Kilos> http://www.thelinuxcauldron.com/2014/01/12/steamos-changing-the-default-audio-device/
[16:37] <inetpro> Kilos: what?
[16:45] <Kilos> my sound for xchat man
[16:45] <Kilos> i have exactly the same symptoms as that link above
[16:46] <Kilos> and if bloep dont work here i never know whats up because my screen goes blank after 10 mins to save power
[16:49] <Kilos> this link says you gotta change stuff
[16:49] <Kilos><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[16:50] <Kilos> device strings. but there are quite a few and i dont wanna mess up the conf file
[17:20] <Kilos> hi not_found
[17:26] <not_found> alo uncle Kilos
[17:31] <not_found> what is up in ZA land?
[17:31] <Kilos> same old same old not_found
[17:32] <Kilos> im struggling to get sound in xchat
[17:32] <Kilos> looks like the graphics card does something weird imo
[17:32] <Kilos> HDMI sound
[17:32] <Kilos> sigh
[17:33] <not_found> here is how I get sound...
[17:33] <not_found> install mplayer, in xchat specify using an external application for sound and choose mplayer
[17:34] <not_found> then set up the sounds in xchat
[17:34] <Kilos> i have
[17:34] <Kilos> i have the same issues as this link
[17:34] <Kilos> http://www.thelinuxcauldron.com/2014/01/12/steamos-changing-the-default-audio-device/
[17:35] <Kilos> i get all the same outputs as that guy
[17:35] <not_found> then I don't know :.
[17:35] <not_found> :/
[17:35] <Kilos> hehe
[17:35] <Kilos> np ill get there when i can shake the pro hard enough
[17:36] <Kilos> looks like its a pulse issue
[17:36] <Kilos> the xchat dev guys should make xchat work like pidgin
[17:36] <Kilos> pidgin sound always works
[17:38] <not_found> perhaps... except for people who can't get sound to work in Pidgin, I am sure they will disagree :p
[17:38] <Kilos> rofl
[17:47] <Kilos> ive made it use the external option to the file bell.oga i copied to /home/ but what a terrible distorted sound
[17:48] <Kilos> like a badly worm volume control on a radio
[17:50] <charl> bah i hate im sounds
[17:50] <charl> i use bitlbee with irssi
[17:50] <charl> also nice that im is consistent with irc in that way
[17:53] <not_found> Kilos I also have the distortion if I don't specify using mplayer :/
[17:53] <Kilos> ya thats ok if you in front of the pc full time and see popups or whatever
[17:54] <Kilos> how do you specify it to use mplayer not_found ?
[17:54] <Kilos> i just gave a path
[17:54] <not_found> under the alers tab you can specify an external player
[17:54] <Kilos> oh lemme look seee
[17:55] <not_found> it is where you can choose what sound file to play for what event
[17:56] <not_found> you click on the second option and type in "mplayer"
[17:57] <Kilos> is that all?
[17:57] <not_found> yup
[17:57] <Kilos> no path to the sound file needed
[17:58] <not_found> choose mplayer and then give a path to the sound file for "Channel Highlight" and "Private Message"
[17:58] <Kilos> mplayer without quotes hey?
[17:58] <not_found> typically /usr/share/sound/xxxxx
[17:58] <not_found> yes no quotes ;)
[17:58] <Kilos> ok lemme try
[17:59]  * not_found wonders why uncle Kilos using xchat with KDE?!
[18:00] <Kilos> im on unity 64bit
[18:00] <Kilos> on kde konversation the sound works
[18:00] <Kilos> i want to slowly change all drives to 64bit
[18:00] <not_found> ah ok...
[18:01] <Kilos> i didnt think actually. shoulda got kubuntu 64bit first
[18:40] <inetpro> ai!
[18:40] <Kilos> haha wat ai! jy nou man
[18:48] <Kilos> hi psydroid
[18:51] <inetpro> you and your sound
[18:51] <inetpro> did it work now?
[18:51] <Kilos> yeah
[18:51] <Kilos> nope
[18:52] <Kilos> weird that a graphics card causes them probs
[18:52] <inetpro> no
[18:53] <inetpro> just need the correct drivers and settings
[18:53] <Kilos> ya but the sound shows nvidia stuff
[18:53] <Kilos> that steamos link sees exactly what i see
[18:54] <inetpro> and?
[18:55] <Kilos> i tried adding ,0 to that device string but no change
[18:56] <Kilos> maybe one has to reboot forst or something
[18:56] <Kilos> grrr
[19:00] <not_found> when making config changes the easiest is to reboot... or stop and start the services that is more tricky
[19:00] <Kilos> lemme try restart xchat first
[19:01] <Kilos> nope still nothing
[19:01] <Kilos> sigh
[19:02] <not_found> stoping and starting xchat won't effect changes made to the sound config >.<
[19:02] <not_found> reboot
[19:02] <Kilos> ai!
[19:02] <Kilos> ok
[19:02] <not_found> lol
[19:05] <Kilos> wishfull thinking
[19:05] <Kilos> hi smile
[19:07] <not_found> oh well
[19:08] <Kilos> hehe
[19:08] <Kilos> at least i can make it do that horrible scratching sound
[19:08] <smile> hi :D
[19:10] <Kilos> im installing konversation now to see what it does
[19:11] <Symmetria> heh
[19:11] <Symmetria> http://www.alstonnetworks.net/connection/connection1.jpg
[19:11] <Symmetria> ;p
[19:11] <Kilos> corrupting my unity with all the kde stuff
[19:11] <Symmetria> I need to clean up my installation
[19:11] <Symmetria> (thats at my house)
[19:17] <not_found> well you want to run Kubuntu :p
[19:24] <miles_> hmm...
[19:24] <miles_> now to remember how to congigure konversation
[19:24] <miles_> configure too
[19:35] <Kilos> well that works
[19:35] <inetpro> Kilos: that works?
[19:35] <Kilos> some weakness in xchat to identify what sound tool to use
[19:36] <Kilos> konversation
[19:37] <Kilos> inetpro: het julle nie baie miggies en miskiete nie
[19:38] <inetpro> nie meer as ander jare nie
[19:39] <Kilos> nou werk saam met my man
[19:40] <Kilos> dan leer ons die pc's om hulle te dooi met die klank kaart
[19:43] <inetpro> eet garlic
[19:43] <Kilos> man ek eet baie maar die miggies lyk my dan nog meer
[19:45] <Kilos> and lots of fresh garlic daily lowers you blood pressure lots
[19:49] <Kilos> good natural meds for peeps with high bp
[20:04] <Kilos> inetpro: gaan slaap nou toppie
[20:04] <inetpro> oja
[20:04] <inetpro> ok
[20:13] <smile> bye :)
[20:13] <Kilos> night smile
[20:15] <inetpro> good night
[20:15] <Kilos> night inetpro
[20:15] <Kilos> sleep tight


[11:17] <Quintasan> \o
[22:36] <Alison_Chaiken> Can someone tell me how to include the source of a new man page in my package?
[22:36] <Alison_Chaiken> Googling "man page" package dpkg-source results in man pages for dpkg-source.
[22:37] <Alison_Chaiken> Do I put newman.3 in the package or newman.3.gz?
[22:38] <Alison_Chaiken> I tried newman.3.gz, but when I say "dpkg-source --commit ." I get an "cannot represent change $CWD/newman.3.gz"
[22:38] <Alison_Chaiken> I could include newman.3 and then gzip it as an installation step.
[23:41] <ScottK> Alison_Chaiken: dh_installman will do that for you.


[01:01] <bigjools> lazyPower: configure the existing proxy ACLs on the region
[03:38] <jtv> Why is authbind documented as required, but not listed among the required packages!?
[03:41] <jtv> Oh it's not documented as required, things just break when you don't have it.
[03:47] <jtv> ...And seemingly only less often when you do install it.  What gives?
[04:27] <bigjools> jtv: oh dear, packaging problem or dev deps?
[04:36] <jtv> This is in a branch.
[05:01] <lazyPower> bigjools: well i think what fixed it was adding ppa.ubuntu.com to the squid-deb-proxy config
[05:01] <lazyPower> i didn't know that squid-deb-proxy needed help out of the box to do ppa installations. hazmat turned me on to this fix
[05:02] <bigjools> lazyPower: yeah, it's not configured for ppas by default, I reckon it should be.
[05:02] <lazyPower> i think its a good default configuration ootb - but it wasn't readily apparent to me what needed to happen to fix it
[05:02] <lazyPower> i was just seeing the symptom, and didnt understand the fix was to hax on squid
[05:02] <lazyPower> i blamed maas's templates as that was the workaround I had discovered in the hot seat to fix it
[05:02] <lazyPower> but that's clearly not ideal
[05:03] <bigjools> jtv: authbind is a dependency of the cluster controller in the package
[05:04] <jtv> bigjools: if it helps development though, it probably ought to be in required-packages.  Does it?
[05:05] <bigjools> jtv: yeah prob should be in there
[05:05] <bigjools> I rarely run from dev these days since I made package building easier
[05:19] <jtv> bigjools: cheap karma available — https://code.launchpad.net/~jtv/maas/dev-authbind/+merge/231669 & https://code.launchpad.net/~jtv/maas/bug-1359517/+merge/231670
[05:20] <bigjools> jtv: BASH
[05:20] <bigjools> whyyyyyyy
[05:21] <jtv> Because tcsh is sooo 20th-century.
[05:21] <bigjools> jtv: does it print line numbers out or any context?
[05:21] <jtv> (Sorry.  Unix joke.  Most people here are probably too young to understand it, or too experienced to find it funny.)
[05:21] <bigjools> I am in the latter camp
[05:21] <jtv> bigjools: it shows the filename and the line of code.
[05:22] <bigjools> can you put a -n in
[05:22] <jtv> Probably.
[05:22] <bigjools> line num is very useful
[05:22] <jtv> I shall strive to build this new feature.  Just for you.
[05:23] <bigjools> jtv: I was thinking
[05:23] <bigjools> we could have just overridden exception to call error in the logger
[05:24] <jtv> Bad boy.  For penance, type "exit" in the REPL.
[05:51] <bigjools> jtv: grah, there's a bad problem in packaging and I cannot work out WTF is going wrong.  When uprading, it often leaves the cluster celery down.
[05:51] <bigjools> I thought it was a race when rabbit is restarted, but I took that out of the equation and it still screws up
[06:19] <bigjools> jtv: https://code.launchpad.net/~julian-edwards/maas/fix-migration-error/+merge/231674
[06:20] <bigjools> I don't have a test - only noticed the problem when buggering around with migrations but I've no idea how to recreate the IntegrityError since I can't see how it would happen, yet it does!
[06:57] <lifeless> bigjools: you could run all but one then deliberately mess up the schema
[07:08] <bigjools> lifeless: it's not a bug in the schemas, it's a data migration
[07:08] <bigjools> and hello!
[07:51] <lifeless> bigjools: hi :)
[07:51] <lifeless> bigjools: so just saying that you can fiddle in the middle to make your test have no room to wiggle
[08:25] <bigjools> lifeless: you're a poet and you don't know it
[13:12] <jtv> blake_r: region-image-downloader approved with comments.
[13:12] <blake_r> jtv: thanks
[14:47] <roaksoax> blake_r: nice! so I also saw there's a form.. is it usable? :)
[14:48] <blake_r> roaksoax: next branch will enable it for the api
[14:48] <blake_r> roaksoax: then on to the view
[14:48] <roaksoax> blake_r: awesome!