[01:27] <lanboy> anybody home?
[06:17] <AlanBell> morning
[06:40] <ball> What's a sensible VNC server to use with Xubuntu?
[07:03]  * AlanBell is on a boat
[07:06] <ball> I wish I were on a boat.
[07:07] <pinky-> Pirate Ship?
[07:08] <AlanBell> pirate thames clipper
[07:08] <ball> That was yesterday ;-)
[07:08] <ball> Thames Barge wouldn't be bad
[07:08] <pinky-> ships name is The Sea Cucumber
[07:08] <ball> ...or a Severn Trow
[07:08] <ball> ...or a Norfolk Wherry
[07:08] <ball> That's about the right size I think.
[07:17] <pinky-> LeChuck's pirate ship was called the Death Starfish
[07:17] <ball> hello popey
[07:36] <diplo> Morning all
[07:37] <ball> mornin'
[07:42] <popey> morning
[07:43] <ball> I find myself back in the *buntu fold.
[07:43] <popey> welcome back :)
[07:44] <ball> Heh... thanks.
[07:45] <ball> I installed Xubuntu this morning and just got the ssh server and VNC installed
[07:45] <ball> (and joe and irssi)
[07:45] <ball> I like it.
[07:54] <ball> ...it seems to like my computer so far too.
[07:55] <pinky-> I keep getting PIRATING ERROR #256: X does not mark the spot.
[08:03] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[08:03] <pinky-> good morning
[08:03] <brobostigon> good morning pinky-
[08:18] <JamesTait> Good morning all! :-D
[08:53] <Azelphur> In a few years, this is going to be my desk. http://www.tnnewspress.com/images/Multi-Monitor-Control-Room-Console-10.jpg
[08:55] <pinky-> amd eyefinity to the MAX
[08:55] <Azelphur> indeed
[09:03] <pinky-> Azelphur, in the future you might need this mouse.. http://gizmodo.com/5944847/who-can-actually-use-this-nfc-mouse
[09:04] <Azelphur> pinky-: pfft, this one http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2012/06/14/Logitech_G600_MMO_Gaming_Mouse_highres.jpg
[09:04] <pinky-> omg
[09:05] <Azelphur> :)
[10:01] <diplo> Azelphur: I thought that was shopped until I googled it :P
[10:01] <Azelphur> diplo: haha, what's the deal with it?
[10:01] <Azelphur> I've only seen the picture :P
[10:01] <diplo> How many buttons?!?!!? :)
[10:02] <Azelphur> oh, the mouse
[10:02] <Azelphur> yea that's a Logitech mouse
[10:02] <Azelphur> diplo: they make keyboards and gamepads too of similar ridiculousness, I actually own them
[10:02] <pinky-> both sides of mouse the same?
[10:02] <Azelphur> http://www.centrale3d.com/IMG/Image/news_01_09/logitech_gseries.jpg
[10:03] <Azelphur> I have both keyboards and the wireless version of that headset
[10:03] <diplo> Yeah got a gamepad ( very old ) N51 or something but still only used limited amount of buttons
[10:03] <pinky-> plug me in
[10:03] <Azelphur> I had a N51
[10:03] <Azelphur> I dropped a soldering iron on it :(
[10:08] <davmor2> popey: is this on quantal?
[10:10] <pinky-> Landmark in quantum computing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veDS0D8lEoM
[10:10] <popey> what?
[10:11] <davmor2> popey: irssi_proxy told me about a USC issue in guest mode
[10:11] <popey> ah, in #software-center
[10:12] <davmor2> popey: I didn't look at the channel I just saw your nick :D
 davmor2, as guest I can't see reviews because USC thinks I am offline
 related to bug 911706 I guess
[10:12] <diplo> Mines in my loft I think Azelphur, don't game much anymore :/
[10:13] <davmor2> popey: okay ta
[10:13] <Azelphur> hehe
[10:14]  * popey wonders where bigcalm is
[10:14] <popey> he's coming round for tea and biscuits later
[10:14] <Azelphur> sounds deliciously British
[10:15] <davmor2> popey: Hide the chocolate ones or he won't leave ;)
[10:23] <davmor2> czajkowski: if you see this, oil of cloves or a tube of anbesol for your tooth
[10:35] <davmor2> popey: this picture is so scary even the glass is behind you is cracking ;) http://wolk.vandestreek.net/~martijn/lolpopey.jpg
[10:36] <MartijnVdS> davmor2: and he keeps stealing your focus
[10:37] <popey> wow, i posted that url in a canonical irc channel just now
[10:37] <popey> which davmor2 isnt in
[10:37] <popey> spooky
[10:38] <davmor2> popey: you only think I'm not there muhahahahahaahahahahahahah
[10:38] <MartijnVdS> popey: that image has been viewed _160_ times in the last 10 minutes...
[10:38] <popey> !
[10:39] <MartijnVdS> and only a few times before that
[10:39] <davmor2> popey: it got posted on #tdtrs
[10:39] <popey> wat
[10:41] <davmor2> popey: blame mogger87
[10:42]  * MartijnVdS resizes the image to NOT be 1.7MB
[10:42] <davmor2> MartijnVdS: no it needs that level of detail other wise is doesn't steal your focus
[10:43] <MartijnVdS> davmor2: it's still 1200x800
[10:43] <MartijnVdS> davmor2: instead of 3000x2000ish
[10:44] <popey> davmor2, i still dont understand how it got out of canonical irc
[10:45] <MartijnVdS> (8 * 3.14 = 25.12 -- 8 pi = christmas!)
[10:46] <AlanBell> speaking of popey pictures I am reminded of this release party picture http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/popey.jpg and the fact that we are just over a month away from the next release party
[10:46] <davmor2> popey: just cause you said about it on can irc doesn't mean it hasn't been posted in here before now or on someones blog and now it's on twitter thanks to dick_turpin and so on
[10:47] <popey> no but it seems massive coincidence that I post it out of the blue in #dx and suddenly it's had 160 views in the last 10 mins
[10:48] <popey> you mean it wasn't posted in #tdtrs recently?
[10:48] <popey> ah, blame neil!
[10:48] <davmor2> popey: 11:32 in tdtrs
[10:49] <Azelphur> obligatory http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fa/718smiley.png :p
[10:50] <popey> all is clear now
[10:52] <MartijnVdS> it's on twitter and g+ as well 8-)
[10:52] <davmor2> popey: on the lightdm page click on the power button what colour it is?
[10:54] <popey> davmor2, kinda dark colour like normal theme
[10:54] <davmor2> popey: also do you get the blue highlight around the password box on lightdm
[10:54] <popey> no
[10:54] <popey> just updating though
[10:54] <davmor2> popey: mine is looking more like the gnome3 black
[10:56]  * popey gets lunch
[10:56] <hamitron> you guys striping down ubuntu?
[10:58] <davmor2> hamitron: nope just breaking it, it's what I do :)
[11:03] <AlanBell> it is gord that steals focus the most though, not popey
[11:04] <popey> hamitron, hmm?
[11:08] <dutchie> is anyone good at grub rescue prompts?
[11:09] <dutchie> (yes, i've tried booting a live usb, but that doesn't seem to work either. blinking cursor, but i hear the log in sound play)
[11:13] <AlanBell> why are you at a grub rescue prompt?
[11:16] <dutchie> i don't know :(
[11:16] <dutchie> the updater told me to reboot, so i did, and now i have a grub rescue prompt
[11:16] <dutchie> (hooray for quantal)
[11:20] <diplo> popey had that dutchie a week ago or so from memory
[11:22] <popey> i did
[11:22] <popey> dutchie, is it a dualboot machine?
[11:22] <dutchie> yes
[11:22] <popey> poke cjwatson about it in #ubuntu-desktop
[11:22] <popey> :(
[11:22] <Laney> devel
[11:22] <popey> he may want to know about it
[11:22] <popey> or there
[11:22] <popey> #ubuntu-devel
[11:23] <dutchie> done
[11:26] <Laney> http://open.spotify.com/track/4aAODvWYkmJaqosWFN28dl tune du jour
[11:28]  * popey listens
[12:29] <BigRedS> I do wish spotify URLs were more parseable
[12:29] <BigRedS> more human parseable, even
[12:31] <davmor2> popey: the launcher becomes a mess about app 20
[12:34] <popey> BigRedS, then you wouldn't click then
[12:34] <popey> *them
[12:34] <popey> davmor2, depends on resolution doesn't it?
[12:34] <popey> and size of launcher icons
[12:35] <davmor2> popey: default size 1366x768, and 1440x900 iirc still starts getting ugly
[12:35] <popey> heh
[12:35] <AlanBell> 2048x1152 ftw
[12:36] <MartijnVdS> 640x480
[12:36] <AlanBell> the resolution of champions
[12:36] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: well, there's 320x240x8bit
[12:36] <MartijnVdS> VGA "Mode X"
[12:39] <popey> Hercules FTW 720x348!
[12:41] <AlanBell> yay
[12:41] <AlanBell> that is a very wide aspect ratio isn't it
[12:41] <AlanBell> if they were square pixels, which they were not
[12:42] <directhex> i wish projectors did laptop screen resolutions
[12:42] <directhex> 2012, and most of them are still 1024x768
[12:43] <AlanBell> the ones at UDS are 1280x800
[12:45] <popey> they do hdmi too
[12:45] <directhex> been looking at a new office projector... may need to budget it next year :/
[12:49] <bittin^work> IT Crowd fucking rules, why did i not started watching it years ago
[12:50] <dogmatic69> too bad there is only a couple episodes
[12:56] <mattt> bittin^work: i never watch it, but i saw the irish guy hanging about our office the other week
[12:56] <mattt> they were filming a new film in the parking lot
[13:00] <bittin^work> yeah i heard my friend was talking about a movie aswell
[13:00] <MartijnVdS> !family | bittin^work
[13:01] <MartijnVdS> hmm
[13:01] <MartijnVdS> bot forgot about family-friendliness of channel?
[13:04] <AlanBell> http://www.ubottu.com/factoids.cgi?search=family not a trigger word
[13:05] <AlanBell> oh, while I remember
[13:05] <AlanBell> !paidapps | davmor2
[13:07] <hamitron> license keys? :/
[13:07] <AlanBell> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Pay/FAQs/License_Key sure
[13:08] <hamitron> ubuntu has really developed into something commercially available since I showed a lot of interest
[13:09] <hamitron> :)
[13:09] <davmor2> hamitron: yeah don't forget some of the apps we have are ports from windows, so in windows they have keys and that transfers to linux
[13:09] <hamitron> viable I mean
[13:09] <hamitron> well, it is good imo
[13:11] <AlanBell> kind of, but it all seems very individual focussed to me
[13:12] <AlanBell> dunno whether USC is now integrated with Landscape at all
[13:12] <hamitron> what is USC?
[13:12] <AlanBell> Ubuntu Software Centre
[13:12] <hamitron> oh ofc
[13:13]  * hamitron feels dumb
[13:13] <AlanBell> heh :)
[13:13] <pinky-> Brain is not here at the moment
[13:13]  * popey is negotiating for saturday evening beer
[13:14] <AlanBell> I don't know if you can purchase stuffs from USC in bulk and deploy from there to your landscape managed fleet of computers
[13:15] <popey> unlikely
[13:16] <AlanBell> do you know if the Zentyal purchase is leading to interesting new work being done?
[13:17] <AlanBell> or partnership
[13:18] <AlanBell> actually re-reading it that just looks like a support arrangement
[13:19] <davmor2> AlanBell: I'm not aware of any landscape integration or bulk installs as such, but also I don't think it has ever come up either.
[13:19] <jussi> o/
[13:20] <jussi> I am here btw...
[13:20] <jussi> :D
[13:20] <AlanBell> here on Saturday too jussi?
[13:20] <davmor2> jussi: no you aren't you are there not here, I'm here and you aren't, so you must be there
[13:21] <jussi> AlanBell: no, leave friday night about 6
[13:21] <jussi> davmor2: shaddup :P
[13:22]  * jussi throws eggs at davmor2
[13:22] <davmor2> jussi: they are missing me cause you are not here :P
[13:22] <jussi> davmor2: Im at a place with lots of cool old cars... :P
[13:23] <jussi> "here"
[13:23] <jussi> :D
[13:23] <davmor2> jussi: old cars you must be in the UK then and possibly near the NEC
[13:24] <jussi> Heritage Motor Center :D
[13:24] <jussi> (AUtomotive linux summit)
[13:27] <hamitron> slackpkg upgrade-all
[13:27] <hamitron> wrong window ><
[13:27] <jussi> lol
[14:11] <ali1234> t-mobile has this customer forum and if you create an account with "+" in the email it filters it out and replaces it with a space
[14:11] <ali1234> good job developers. replace a valid character with an invalid one.
[14:13] <ali1234> i sent an email to their support from the + address
[14:18] <Azelphur> ali1234: I got red up with trying to use the gmail + trick because so many sites bug out
[14:18] <Azelphur> I went for plan B and enabled catch all on @azelphur.com, then just use<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[14:20] <ali1234> yeah the amusing thing here is it actually accepted the email, but then changed it before saving it to the database
[14:20] <Azelphur> lol
[14:21] <ali1234> so now they think my email is an invalid email that will never succeed in delivery
[14:21] <ali1234> hopefully it fills there server logs with crap and crashes their server
[14:22] <ali1234> i'm going to subscribe to as many topics as possible
[14:22]  * hamitron makes note not to do stuff to annoy ali1234
[14:27] <ali1234> Azelphur: microsoft added "+" aliases the live/hotmail recently, so maybe it will become more common
[14:27] <Azelphur> probably not :P
[14:32] <davmor2> hamitron: You Slacker you :D
[14:34] <zleap> ali1234, i thought this is why we had RFC standards for things,  so we avoid errors in addresses
[14:42] <bigcalm[mob]> Hi peeps :)
[14:59] <davmor2> bigcalm[mob]: lo muppet boy what this about being down Sowfffff again
[15:11] <bigcalm[mob]> Davmor2: this time it's for fun. Keeping away from London
[15:13] <davmor2> bigcalm[mob]: Ah that is acceptable then but don't do it again :P
[15:31] <ali1234> cool, they fixed the email thing
[15:34] <diplo> that was quick :)
[16:20] <pinky-> wow! check this rock out the Curiosity Mars Rover has found http://gizmodo.com/5944952/mars-rover-to-study-pyramid-rock-of-unknown-origin
[16:23] <AlanBell> then it will move on to the curiously black monolith
[16:24] <brobostigon> lol
[16:25] <AlanBell> wake me up when they find the stone ring marked with heiroglyphs
[16:43] <davmor2> AlanBell: I found the plastic version of the ring was in my box of cocopops :D
[17:46] <bigcalm_laptop> Hi kids :)
[17:47] <bigcalm_laptop> AlanBell, popey: it has been commented that 8pm is a bit of a late start for the drinkings on Saturday.  Should try and remember the label and buy some myself
[20:22] <popey> bigcalm_laptop, cameraphones were made for a reason
[20:22] <bigcalm_laptop> I suddenly realise that I'm quite spoiled at home http://www.speedtest.net/result/2192179811.png
[20:22] <MartijnVdS> argh
[20:23] <MartijnVdS> Every time I click on the bottom of a window that's at the bottom of my screen, it half-maximizes as if I had dragged it to the top right corner
[20:23] <bigcalm_laptop> popey: a point well made. Though the bottle is in another room and I am comfy
[20:23] <popey> i have a friend whose girlfriend has OCD, she takes a photo of the front door every day on the way to work because she obsesses she didn tlock it
[20:23] <bigcalm_laptop> o.O
[20:23] <bigcalm_laptop> Poor lady
[20:24] <bigcalm_laptop> Admitidly I did go back and check that I had locked the door this morning
[20:24] <bigcalm_laptop> Admittedly
[20:25] <pinky-> bigcalm_laptop, this is my BT results http://www.speedtest.net/result/2192183954.png
[20:27] <popey> skipton..
[20:27]  * popey makes notes in his.. uh.. database
[20:27]  * mgdm drove through somewhere called Skipton the other day
[20:27] <pinky-> I'm more near Scarborough
[20:27] <mattt> http://www.speedtest.net/result/2192188093.png
[20:27] <mgdm> perhaps not the same one, though
[20:28] <bigcalm_laptop> mattt: that's what I get at home
[20:28] <bigcalm_laptop> Same ISP
[20:28] <MartijnVdS> http://www.speedtest.net/result/2192190362.png -- still waiting for fibre :(
[20:29] <mattt> MartijnVdS: that's perfectly good
[20:29] <mattt> unless you pirate all day long
[20:29] <mattt> bigcalm_laptop: yeah, virgin is great, but we had a wicked 1+ day outage last weekend
[20:30] <AlanBell> http://www.speedtest.net/result/2192192795.png better in the office
[20:30] <MartijnVdS> mattt: I'm supposed to get 100/100 (or even 1000/1000!) fibre, but apparently it's hard to get from ground level to the 7th
[20:30] <mattt> MartijnVdS: 8|
[20:30] <MartijnVdS> mattt: fibre has sticking out of the ground for more than a year now :(
[20:30] <pinky-> AlanBell, that's great! upload speeds
[20:30] <mattt> AlanBell: coventry?
[20:31] <mattt> MartijnVdS: ah man, what a tease
[20:31] <mattt> MartijnVdS: can't move down to ground floor?  :D
[20:31] <MartijnVdS> mattt: nah, there's nothing there except the entrance :)
[20:32] <MartijnVdS> mattt: can't afford a house.. twice as expensive as my flat :)
[20:32] <AlanBell> mattt: nope, Farnham
[20:32] <AlanBell> fibre to the cabinet. Apparently I should be getting a much faster download speed than I actually get
[20:32] <AlanBell> wonder if it is faster plugged directly into the router . . .
[20:33] <mattt> MartijnVdS: where are you again?
[20:33] <MartijnVdS> mattt: Netherlands, Alphen aan den Rijn
[20:34] <mattt> MartijnVdS: middle of nowhere, surely property is cheaper there :)
[20:34] <mattt> (kidding)
[20:34] <MartijnVdS> mattt: nah that's Groningen :)
[20:34] <MartijnVdS> (really, I can get a farm with lots of land out there for the same I get a 3-bedroom flat here)
[20:34] <mattt> MartijnVdS: is the coast there nice?
[20:35] <MartijnVdS> mattt: it tends to be, yes.. but it's VERY busy in summer
[20:36] <mattt> MartijnVdS: so what keeps you in alphen aan den rijn?
[20:37] <MartijnVdS> mattt: Family, friends, inertia
[20:37] <MartijnVdS> the fact that the cities around it are even more expensive :)
[20:39] <AlanBell> http://www.speedtest.net/result/2192207951.png
[20:40] <AlanBell> looks like my wifi is a bit of a bottleneck
[20:40] <mattt> AlanBell: woah
[20:40] <pinky-> faster then 97% of UK!
[20:42] <AlanBell> yup
[20:42] <mattt> those are impressive speeds for home
[20:42] <AlanBell> hmm, no window decoration and unity --reset is now deprecated
[20:42] <AlanBell> who broke it??
[20:43] <mattt> MartijnVdS: do you work from home ?
[20:43] <MartijnVdS> mattt: no.. well.. sometimes
[20:45] <MartijnVdS> wow.. I thought popey posted a lot on G+
[20:45] <mattt> MartijnVdS: easy to find work where you're at?
[20:45] <MartijnVdS> But NASA posts more.
[20:46] <MartijnVdS> mattt: As a computer programmer, there's always work :) But I've had my current job for 7 years now :)
[20:46] <mattt> MartijnVdS: like furniture!
[20:47] <AlanBell> czajkowski: did your unity drop window decorations earlier?
[20:51] <czajkowski> AlanBell: yup
[20:52] <czajkowski> AlanBell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1053288
[20:52] <popey> have you updated to unity <IP_ADDRESS>.6?
[20:52] <MartijnVdS> the unity of the beast?
[20:53] <czajkowski> popey: slept most of the day and dentist so not done any updates
[20:54] <AlanBell> unity 6.6.0
[20:55] <AlanBell> thanks czajkowski, reading that now
[20:55] <czajkowski> popey: how do I find out what version I'm running
[20:55] <popey> apt-cache policy unity
[20:55] <popey> pastebinit
[20:55] <AlanBell> I did unity --version
[20:55] <AlanBell> same result though, 6.6.0
[20:55] <popey> apt-cache policy is more handy because it shows where you got it from
[20:56] <AlanBell> yeah, that is more detailed
[20:56] <czajkowski> popey: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1217594/
[20:56] <AlanBell> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1217595/
[20:56] <popey> czajkowski, you need to a) make sure you have -proposed enabled in software sources, and b) do an update
[20:58] <czajkowski> popey: tis ticked
[20:58] <czajkowski> doing update now
[20:58] <czajkowski> popey: also wondering should some of these be ticked http://twitpic.com/awocqw/full
[20:59] <popey> no
[20:59] <popey> updates tab only
[20:59] <czajkowski> popey: why the difference in http://twitpic.com/awod0c/full
[20:59] <czajkowski> 128 V 131
[21:00] <MartijnVdS> czajkowski: the counter takes a while to update sometimes
[21:00] <popey> 128+3 = 131
[21:00] <MartijnVdS> czajkowski: if you click 'Update' (not upgrade!) in the update-notifier app it should sync up
[21:00] <MartijnVdS> oh
[21:00] <MartijnVdS> and what popey says :)
[21:00] <czajkowski> popey: 131-3 = 128
[21:01] <popey> look at the text
[21:01] <MartijnVdS> czajkowski: 128 + 3 newly installed = 131
[21:01] <popey> it says 128 and 3 new which makes 131
[21:01] <czajkowski> ba I am special today
[21:01] <czajkowski> sorry
[21:01] <popey> :)
[21:01] <popey> np :)
[21:01] <popey> interesting that you ran apt
[21:01]  * czajkowski has to have her tooth YOINKED out in hospital :s
[21:01] <popey> even though update manager already open and ready to go :)
[21:01] <MartijnVdS> Zzz o'clock.
[21:01] <popey> nn MartijnVdS
[21:02] <czajkowski> it's growing down crooked into my jaw :(
[21:02] <MartijnVdS> czajkowski: :( good luck!
[21:02] <bigcalm_laptop> czajkowski: have them replace it with a cybernetic implant
[21:03] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm_laptop: The czajkowskinator?
[21:03] <AlanBell> czajkowski: that looks like a decorated window!
[21:03] <AlanBell> you have title bars and scroll bars and everything
[21:04] <popey> get you!
[21:04] <Laney> argh
[21:04] <czajkowski> AlanBell: you missed my fun morning of removing things
[21:04] <Laney> what are you doing advising people to enable -proposed?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
[21:05] <AlanBell> chortle
[21:05] <czajkowski> Laney: hello sunshine!
[21:05] <Laney> oh hello!
[21:05] <Laney> I just had to turn an old peep show off because it was too cringeworthy
[21:05] <czajkowski> Laney: now what's wrong with -proposed
[21:05] <bigcalm_laptop> 7% battery life remaining, maybe I should plug in
[21:05] <Laney> in the development release it's not supposed to be used by people
[21:06] <Laney> it's how you accidently get half of your system removed
[21:06] <Laney> or your cat ends up being shaved, things like that
[21:06] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm_laptop: spotify:track:2g2GhWq7Bm6NoTjvBSr3jp ;)
[21:07] <Laney> the whole reason unity and friends are uploaded there is because they are supposed to be kept in sync
[21:07] <Laney> so the whole stack is built in proposed and then copied to release when it's ready to be used by human beans
[21:07] <MartijnVdS> and ccsm STILL breaks :)
[21:08] <AlanBell> ccsm does *not* break
[21:08] <AlanBell> ccsm enables breakage in other things
[21:08] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: when I start ccsm, it resets a bunch of settings, and I can't make changes I make with it stick
[21:08] <popey> Laney, they _are_ in sync, and after we can disable -proposed again
[21:08] <popey> (are they not)?
[21:09] <Laney> I don't know
[21:09]  * AlanBell observes he is fully updated from proposed and still broken
[21:09] <Laney> something else there might not be though.
[21:09] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: dconf-editor lets me edit those settings (sloppy focus, autoraise delay, Alt instead of Super to move windows)
[21:09] <popey> fair point
[21:10] <MartijnVdS> Laney: -proposed is not always disabled when upgrading to a dev release though
[21:10] <AlanBell> MartijnVdS: yeah, reloading the compiz plugin stack can still be a bit fragile, but unity does allow you to sneeze in the same room as it these days, way way better than it was
[21:10] <MartijnVdS> Laney: if you had it enabled in a non-dev release
[21:10] <Laney> correct
[21:10] <AlanBell> which is why I had proposed ticked I think
[21:10] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: I can't configure it anymore. That's not better than it was :)
[21:10] <Laney> I have a fix to Launchpad to make it not harmful to have it enabled
[21:10] <MartijnVdS> Laney: pinning?
[21:11] <Laney> but it depends on another bug fix elsewhere
[21:11] <Laney> kind of
[21:12] <MartijnVdS> anyway.. reall sleep time now :)
[21:13] <czajkowski> Laney: if you break lp you'll feel my wrath!
[21:14] <Laney> but the review and landing process is so thorough that breaking LP isn't possible :-)
[21:16] <czajkowski> Laney: if you break it I will be cranky
[21:16] <czajkowski> :)
[21:17] <Laney> it's only soyuz, what could possibly go wrong?
[21:17]  * popey cynisism meter and my sarcasmatron have both spontaneously exploded
[21:17] <czajkowski> Laney: see now you just jinxeed yourself!
[21:17] <bigcalm_laptop> \o/
[21:18] <Laney> ruh roh
[21:18] <czajkowski> pretty sure colin has some magic vodoo with LP it doesnt dare break when he does stuff
[21:19] <Laney> he's definitely broken stuff
[21:19] <bigcalm_laptop> I think this wine has broken my head
[21:20] <Laney> mmm wine
[21:21] <bigcalm_laptop> I can continue to code quite well while drinking beer (ale), but wine does something to mess with my thinking bits
[21:21] <popey> brain jelly
[21:21] <bigcalm_laptop> Haha, yus
[21:31]  * AlanBell wonders how to get performance out of wireless
[21:38] <AlanBell> actually kind of getting to like having no window decorations at all
[21:39] <Laney> join me on xmonad :-)
[21:39] <AlanBell> alt-drag to a window edge does the grid maximise thing, alt-middle resizes
[21:39] <bigcalm_laptop> That reminds me of some older window managers
[21:40] <AlanBell> resize by clicking in the window itself rather than on the ridiculously thin border or on the shadow outside the window
[21:40] <christel> bigcalm_laptop: why did you call me a fried earlier? :(
[21:40] <Laney> http://ubuntuone.com/55409bBNu3Z8ySCQ6REcDd
[21:41] <christel> i thought i was your FRIEND not your fried :(
[21:41] <christel> (thank you for calling me a good cook though)
[21:45] <bigcalm_laptop> Hehe
[21:45] <bigcalm_laptop> Sorrrrweeee
[21:45]  * bigcalm_laptop tickles christel
[21:45] <christel> MEEP
[21:46] <bigcalm_laptop> Oo, a road runner
[21:48] <christel> i was just telling AlanBell that i didn't quite succeed in killing you earlier!
[21:49] <AlanBell> we will try harder on Saturday
[21:50] <popey> Laney, is that gnome-fallback?
[21:50] <Laney> part of it
[21:50] <Laney> combined with xmonad
[21:50] <Laney> (instead of metacity)
[21:50] <popey> awwww channel 53 is me :D
[21:50] <christel> AlanBell: excellent! did we move the start time forward btw
[21:50] <christel> because 8 is like so late
[21:51] <christel> it'd mean i'd end up staying home to watch dr who instead, drinking wine... and then i'd never arrive
[21:51] <christel> (because i'd get tipsy and then i wouldn't be able to decide which shoes to wear)
[21:51]  * bigcalm_laptop likes to breath. Spinach likes to stop me from doing so
[21:51]  * AlanBell can't imagine christel getting tipsy
[21:52] <christel> AlanBell: oh good!
[21:52] <christel> :D
[21:52] <bigcalm_laptop> This is why most men have 2 pairs of shoes
[21:52] <AlanBell> yeah, we can start at 7 or whenever
[21:52] <christel> how about 2!
[21:52] <bigcalm_laptop> LOL
[21:52] <christel> maybe not too, i'd fall asleep by 8
[21:52] <AlanBell> you can start at 2, sure
[21:52] <christel> 7 is my favourite number so that kinda works
[21:52] <popey> Twelvety is my favourite number
[21:52] <christel> popey: :D
[21:53] <bigcalm_laptop> Now I'm hearing that in the voice of Len Goodman :S
[21:53] <christel> twelvetyseven?
[21:53] <christel> (lines and lines and lines and lines)
[21:53] <bigcalm_laptop> What?
[21:53]  * AlanBell has quite a lot of shoes, need to do a cull
[21:54] <AlanBell> 5 pairs including wellies
[21:54]  * Laney gets a beetroot soup out for lunch tomorrow
[21:55] <bigcalm_laptop> 1 pair of every day walking shoes - a friend called developer shoes
[21:55] <bigcalm_laptop> 1 pair of walking boots
[21:55] <bigcalm_laptop> 1 pair of "good" shoes to go with my suit
[21:55] <bigcalm_laptop> Oh no, I'm on the slipper slope
[21:55] <AlanBell> oh, slippers and sandals
[21:56] <AlanBell> forgot those
[21:56] <bigcalm_laptop> And for me
[21:58] <christel> slippery sandals!
[21:58] <christel> i'd like to see you both in heels on saturday please
[21:59] <bigcalm_laptop> I might struggle to get into anybody's heels
[21:59] <christel> :o
[21:59] <bigcalm_laptop> I have weird feet
[22:00] <Laney> ,
[22:01]  * Laney has tiny feet
[22:01] <Laney> size 6
[22:01] <christel> awwww babyfeet
[22:01] <christel> how sweet
[22:02] <AlanBell> size 10 or 11 for me
[22:03] <bigcalm_laptop> Big socks
[22:03] <christel> :o
[22:04] <mgdm> You know what they say about big socks
[22:04] <mgdm> big feet
[22:04] <bigcalm_laptop> That's the one
[22:04] <christel> see you say big socks and my mind instantly conjurs up an image of AlanBell wearing knee-high socks
[22:04] <bigcalm_laptop> Oh my
[22:04] <mgdm> I am glad I don't have your mind
[22:04] <pinky-> big feet, big hands
[22:04] <christel> and then it goes "whirrr whirrr" and suddenly he's wearing leiderhosen(sp?)
[22:05] <christel> and one of those funny hats with a feather in
[22:05] <bigcalm_laptop> I think that would suit AlanBell
[22:05] <christel> unless someone gives me a better mental image STAT i am sure he will start dancing and yodeling too
[22:05] <bigcalm_laptop> AlanBell: please to be yodelling on Saturday evening
[22:06] <mgdm> will he have a big horn?
[22:06] <christel> !
[22:06] <christel> yes
[22:06] <mgdm> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphorn
[22:06] <bigcalm_laptop> !ohmy | mgdm
[22:06] <mgdm> bigcalm_laptop: see aove
[22:06] <christel> it is very long
[22:06] <mgdm> above
[22:06] <AlanBell> :O
[22:07] <AlanBell> the hills are alive
[22:07] <mgdm> apparently you get some that start small and get bigger
[22:07] <christel> mgdm: YES! i totally have mental imagery involving funnily curved horns :D
[22:07] <mgdm> Bill Bailey has one
[22:07] <christel> :o
[22:07] <christel> i like bill bailey, he is funny
[22:07] <Seeker`> eeeeeeeeeeeeevening
[22:08] <christel> hello Seeker` <3
[22:08] <mgdm> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybighdGqHpk
[22:08] <Seeker`> hallo!
[22:08] <bigcalm_laptop> I should bring in the bottle of wine before our glasses become dry
[22:08] <mgdm> evening Seeker`
[22:08] <Seeker`> o/
[22:09] <bigcalm_laptop> mgdm: I wanted to go and see him perform that set live. But the cost was prohibitive
[22:09] <mgdm> I did see him do that, twice
[22:09] <christel> how greedy of you
[22:10] <mgdm> in two places!
[22:10] <christel> oh thats ok then
[22:10] <bigcalm_laptop> Very greedy
[22:11] <christel> seeing how you didnt see it twice at the same time
[22:11] <christel> i thought maybe you had both your eyes open
[22:11] <bigcalm_laptop> Surely you see everything twice?
[22:11] <bigcalm_laptop> Ah, are there any Cyclops in here?
[22:12] <christel> SSSH!
[22:13] <mgdm> TELNET!
[22:13] <mgdm> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwaxWoJPUC0
[22:31] <bigcalm_laptop> Night peeps


[02:16] <InHisName> Blue?
[02:18] <waltman> pink is the new black
[02:19] <pleia2> pink++
[02:19] <waltman> see, pleia2 knows
[02:21] <ChinnoDog> black is your budget after installing Ubuntu
[02:22]  * ChinnoDog pets PennBot
[02:31] <Irishmanluke> @karma pink
[02:31] <PennBot> Irishmanluke: Karma for "pink" has been increased 6 times and decreased 2 times for a total karma of 4.
[02:32] <Irishmanluke> pink--
[02:32] <Irishmanluke> @karma black
[02:32] <PennBot> Irishmanluke: black has neutral karma.
[11:13] <InHisName> @karma Irishmanluke
[11:13] <PennBot> InHisName: Karma for "Irishmanluke" has been increased 4 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 3.
[11:13] <InHisName> @karma Blue
[11:13] <PennBot> InHisName: Blue has neutral karma.
[11:13] <InHisName> natty++
[11:19] <JonathanD> Morning.
[11:32] <InHisName> morning JonathanD
[11:39] <JonathanD> howdy
[14:26] <rmg51> o/
[16:20]  * rmg51 is not feeling the love for 11.04 on Teddy's old Dell :-/
[16:27] <jedijf> rmg51: what's the prob?
[16:28] <rmg51> doesn't like to boot
[16:30] <rmg51> I had it up and running then did a reboot
[16:30] <rmg51> about 10 times
[16:30] <jedijf> rmg51: try recovery and failsafe
[16:31] <rmg51> can't
[16:31] <rmg51> no place to type
[16:32] <jedijf> no, select recovery option at boot
[16:32] <rmg51> after splash screen black screen
[16:32] <rmg51> then pinstripes
[16:32] <rmg51> then gibberish
[16:33] <jedijf> reboot...select failsafe...nvidia driver?  if so, disable and try again
[16:33] <rmg51> no can do
[16:34] <jedijf> hold power button down......
[16:34] <jedijf> reboot...select failsafe...nvidia driver?  if so, disable and try again
[16:34] <rmg51> no can do
[16:34] <rmg51> nothing to select
[16:35] <rmg51> think about it
[16:35] <rmg51> I have to go pick up Mom
[16:35] <jedijf> shift
[16:35] <rmg51> didn't work
[16:35] <jedijf> once it starts, hold shift down
[16:35] <rmg51> got it
[16:36] <jedijf> pick up mom, i'll go do lawn......then we'll both be back
[16:37] <rmg51> that doesn't work either
[16:37] <rmg51> just black and white lines
[16:37] <rmg51> no place to type
[16:41] <rmg51> it just booted =-O
[17:15] <rmg51> dang nvidia drivers
[17:16]  * TheEvilPhoenix swears loudly
[17:16] <TheEvilPhoenix> SOMEONE HACKED A FORUMS INSTALL I HAD
[17:16]  * TheEvilPhoenix goes on the warpath with the hacker
[17:25] <rmg51> with any luck now that the nvidia driver is no longer in use there won't be any more boot problems
[17:26] <rmg51> Teddy just won't be able to "flip the cube" :P
[17:34] <jedijf> rmg51: you may with the open source, don't despair yet
[17:38] <rmg51> not too worried about that laptop
[17:38] <rmg51> I'm getting ready to upgrades Teddy's System76 laptop
[17:44] <rmg51> upgrade has started


[02:15] <aeioufy> Going to try Lubuntu on my aspire one netbook, any suggestions?
[03:22] <aeioufy> Where can I download lubuntu 12.04 32bit. I keep getting directed to lubuntu 12.10 or the 64bit version
[03:22] <wxl> aeioufy: strange, where are you downloading from?
[03:25] <aeioufy> cdimage.ubuntu.com
[03:25] <aeioufy> I could am not sure if its 64bit or 32 bit. Where can I find a 32bit distro please?
[03:25] <wxl> so you mean http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/12.04/release/lubuntu-12.04-alternate-i386.iso
[03:25] <wxl> ooh that's alternate
[03:25] <wxl> sorry
[03:25] <aeioufy> I want the alternate?
[03:26] <wxl> no
[03:26] <wxl> accident
[03:26] <wxl> 1s
[03:26] <aeioufy> I used the alternate for ubuntu.
[03:26] <wxl> oh well there you go thtne
[03:26] <wxl> you don't need it per se
[03:26] <aeioufy> Ok, what do I need?
[03:26] <wxl> do you want the desktop or alternate version?
[03:27] <aeioufy> It gets frustrating when I ask questions based on things I read and get suggestions.
[03:27] <wxl> if your system is very low on resources of if you'd just prefer the speed of the alternate, you might just use alternate
[03:27] <wxl> typical choice is desktop
[03:27] <wxl> both do the same thing, though, except that there is no live environment with alternate
[03:27] <aeioufy> Netbook usr.
[03:27] <aeioufy> oh.
[03:27] <wxl> i've used desktop on my netbook without problem
[03:27] <aeioufy> Gui enviro you mean.
[03:27] <wxl> no
[03:27] <wxl> well, yes
[03:27] <wxl> for the installer
[03:28] <wxl> both result with a gui installtion
[03:28] <aeioufy> Oh, ok.
[03:28] <aeioufy> Gotcha.
[03:28] <wxl> such is the nature of lubuntu, as the l stands for lxde, which is a gui
[03:28] <wxl> so the above is alternate
[03:28] <wxl> and desktop is:
[03:28] <aeioufy> Can I use make the desktop version bootable to my usb? Yes or no.
[03:28] <wxl> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/12.04/release/lubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso
[03:28] <wxl> you can make anything you want bootable to usb assuming you have enough space on the drive
[03:30] <aeioufy> Ok, just making sure. Was under the impression some distros were only used in certain ways, such as you could open and live test it before you install it.
[03:30] <aeioufy> I am wishing this version will work in installing it at the boot screen from my usb.
[03:30] <wxl> well if that's what you want, then don't get alternate or mini or anythig except desktop but there's nothing precluding that or any other bootable image from going on a drive
[03:30] <wxl> is this an eepc?
[03:31] <aeioufy> huh?
[03:31] <aeioufy> netbook
[03:31] <wxl> is your netbook and eeepc?
[03:31] <aeioufy> aspire one acer
[03:31] <aeioufy> I only have a netbook.
[03:31] <wxl> ah
[03:31] <wxl> that's fine
[03:31] <wxl> now let's see here
[03:31] <wxl> !usb
[03:31] <aeioufy> Spent about 8 hours researching what to put on it. I am about damned ready hehe.
[03:31] <wxl> there you go
[03:31] <aeioufy> I know how to do that.
[03:31] <aeioufy> I use yumi on wdoughs
[03:32] <wxl> well come on back if you have any other issues
[03:32] <aeioufy> Last question> promise> What is a linux iso bootable image maker. I know yumi is for the other os.
[03:32] <wxl> see that link above :)
[03:32] <aeioufy> gotchme.
[03:34] <wxl> aeioufy: the first of those two links, btw. probably obvious, but
[03:34] <aeioufy> OH, sweet, ITs built into the lubuntu os.
[03:34] <aeioufy> Just read it, nice. I miss having ubuntu. Tried that for two days and royally screwed up.
[03:34] <aeioufy> I just purchased two external hard drives, an external cd burner and some more flash usb.
[03:34] <wxl> ubuntu i sgood at its core
[03:34] <wxl> just too much cruft
[03:35] <wxl> that's what's nice about lubuntu
[03:35] <aeioufy> Linux.org says debian is about the most solid from starting at the ground up and being the most customable.
[03:35] <wxl> i think people could argue best distro for days
[03:36] <aeioufy> Yea, each have theireasons. So you see what mine are I think. Behind one week in linux install in class. Was sick.
[03:36] <aeioufy> Teacher is making us use centos
[03:36] <wxl> in the end, linux is linux
[03:36] <aeioufy> On virtual box, I mean fug. Let us install it or something.
[03:36] <wxl> but linux is certainly NOT unix. phew.
[03:37] <aeioufy> I know the history.
[03:37] <aeioufy> Micro computer technology class first year student. FOA certified. A+ certified.
[03:37] <wxl> i was referring more to the fact that they are similar, but very very different. no philosophy or history in mind.
[03:37] <aeioufy> OH.
[03:38] <aeioufy> I like the gnu's principles.
[03:38] <wxl> that's all fine and dandy but in the end all that matters is the software :)
[03:39] <aeioufy> Or emp.
[03:39] <aeioufy> Good night.
[03:39] <wxl> same to you
[03:39] <wxl> as i said, come on back if you have issues
[03:41] <aeioufy> first time off dalnet in 18 years
[03:41] <aeioufy> I just realized. I went from ubuntu 12.04 to using 12.10 in the mist of a 2 day net binge.
[03:41] <aeioufy> No wonder why I brought my last pc back....
[03:42] <aeioufy> We have to learn microsoft windows server 2008 by the way, server admin. I am dreading it.
[03:42] <wxl> ew
[03:42] <aeioufy> a few weeks from starting linux server admin.
[03:42] <aeioufy> I am really behind.
[03:43] <wxl> no more getting sick!
[03:43] <aeioufy> Being the only 32 year old in the class helps.
[03:43] <aeioufy> Everyone just learned a few days ago what irc is. they think its just a botnet thing.
[03:43] <wxl> hahahah
[03:44] <aeioufy> We got to use the net on a class and I was in an irc room/googling answers.
[03:44] <wxl> i still remember my first days of irc…
[03:44] <aeioufy> IRC pwns for net tests.
[03:44] <aeioufy> Irc is where I first learned scripting, playing a mud brought me to it.;
[03:45] <wxl> i cut my teeth programming a C=128 :P
[03:45] <aeioufy> I just checked on my friend who got me into the internet in 95, havent seen him since 98. nor heard of him. He knows 18 programing languages fluently.
[03:45] <aeioufy> Going to help desk him.
[03:46] <wxl> that was a little after i first found the internet
[03:46] <wxl> would have been about 91 for me
[04:07] <wxl> !md5 | aeioufy
[04:08] <Dii_Pundiih> Hi. i just installed lubuntu 12.04 on a laptop and looked a film when the cord jumped out and the mashine shutdown.. now it says that it cant mount /dev/disk/by-uuid/838a...... on root failed invalied argument. and that it cant mount /dev /sys /and /proc on /root and that target dont have recuested /sbin/init  Try passing init= bootarg.   What can i do?
[04:08] <wxl> aeioufy: if you want to get really hardcore, you can run the md5 on the iso and compare against published values and then you can run the md5 on the usb itself and see if that matches up, too, just to remove doubt that something went awry in the usb creation process
[04:17] <aeioufy> I been checking hashes for years now
[04:17] <aeioufy> I think its because I made the bootable image read only?
[04:18] <wxl> well
[04:18] <wxl> remember when i asked you about eeepc? they can be a pain in the BUTT to boot from usb
[04:18] <wxl> that may be your issue
[04:19] <wxl> i had different results setting the bios to boot from usb than i did picking the boot selector
[04:19] <wxl> aeioufy: also you might get different results from different ports
[04:19] <wxl> Dii_Pundiih: does it boot fine otherwise?
[04:20] <aeioufy> yea
[04:20] <Dii_Pundiih> wxl: yes im at (initramfs)
[04:21] <wxl> Dii_Pundiih: oh boo, that's not good. so do you have your drive encrypted or anything?
[04:22] <Dii_Pundiih> I did update and restart it ones and it worked / no
[04:22] <wxl> Dii_Pundiih: it works now?
[04:22] <Dii_Pundiih> No im now at initramfs
[04:23] <aeioufy> ok, I'll try the bios boot change
[04:23] <wxl> Dii_Pundiih: maybe your drive failed :(
[04:23] <wxl> Dii_Pundiih: you could try a live CD and check the disk
[04:23] <Dii_Pundiih> It seems like it dont find.. well i dont know what it dont find but.. /ok but can i check if it is there somehow?
[04:23] <Dii_Pundiih> ok
[04:24] <Dii_Pundiih>  I do that/ can i do something from the live cd at the same time to.. check els that everything is ok with the instalation?
[04:25] <wxl> sudo fsck /dev/sda1
[04:25] <wxl> assuming it is sda1
[04:26] <aeioufy> I hope this eeepc works out
[04:27] <wxl> Dii_Pundiih: gparted can do the same thing too if you boot into the live CD desktop
[04:28] <aeioufy> i love gparted
[04:28] <aeioufy> i used it without knowintg anything first. epic fail
[04:30] <wxl> hah
[04:32] <aeioufy> walmarts 14 day policy allowed me to rush into ubuntu, ho hands barred
[04:32] <aeioufy> like zerg rush.
[04:45] <aeioufy> Spent the last 3 days on this machine, updates, updates/security/up dates. No fun stuff yet. Going for a quad boot eeepc
[04:45] <Dii_Pundiih> wxl: it tryes to recover journal now for some 5 min.. Strange that it reacted like this.. my desktop gets shut down like plopp often and it has never been a problem../now it says it found a block it cant read and that it resulted in a short read.. ignore error? yes. Force rewrite? .. I did not say yes to the first Q, it did it self.. but should i say yes to the other?
[04:45] <Dii_Pundiih> Upps i did hit enter before the Q were seen.. Maybe it just waited for the answer but just did not print it out..
[05:01] <aeioufy> ifstram: unable to find a medium containing a live file system?
[05:01] <aeioufy> Could the pc be trying to install to another usb stick I have plugged in?
[05:03] <aeioufy> answered my own question
[05:23] <aeioufy> when i try to install 12.04 lubuntu 32bit desktop, i am taken to command line? how do I stop that
[07:36] <Dii_Pundiih> wxl: Hi. thank you for kicking me in the right directin. Disk had 750 moved blocks and 120 waiting :( But luckyly i had an other laying around. godnight!
[12:22] <raringringtail> hello
[12:23] <raringringtail> ???
[14:11] <reloader> hi! can someone help me with hibernate problem on lubuntu 12.04? I have Fujitsu Siemens Amilo M1450G laptop. Please!
[14:12] <reloader> System is behaving weirdly. Sometimes hibernation works, sometimes not. Often when resuming from hibernation sound is choppy and reboot the is only option.
[14:15] <reloader> Also, often it will start going in hibernation, but then just resume screensaver and asking me for password, like the process of hibernation stopped somewhere. Often it goes to hibernation, and after resuming i get log in screen like i shutdowned it
[14:15] <reloader> without having programs that i left opened.
[17:04] <tortik> Hi all. Every time I turn on the PC I get an error window with 'Close' and 'Report to developers' buttons. Where can I show the details about this error?
[19:08] <tortik> Every time when I turn PC I get an error message 'there is error is a system program (cancel / send report) How can I identify what is wrong?
[19:08] <wxl> tortik: submit it to the developers!
[19:08] <wxl> but you can click the thing that says show details or whatever and see what package is affected
[19:08] <wxl> my guess it's probably the darn notification daemon which has been a thorn in the side of lubuntu imho
[19:10] <Unit193> You hit send report, then you can click details.
[19:11] <wxl> thanks, i couldn't remember how it worked
[19:11] <wxl> tortik: so what is it?
[19:11] <Unit193> There's two dialogs, he's talking about the first.
[19:12] <tortik> wxl: unfortunately the window hasn't got such gui element.. only two buttons.. I already many times sent a problem so I want to identify the problem
[19:12] <wxl> no gui but it has a button?
[19:13] <wxl> tortik: can you provide a screenshot?
[19:13] <tortik> not gui but gui element such 'details / show details / etc'
[19:13] <tortik> yes
[19:13] <tortik> just a minute
[19:14] <tortik> here is a screenshot... Lubuntu 12.04 lts http://higgs.rghost.ru/private/43729419/74329d4aa36670153d6692fc1daaf939/image.png
[19:15] <wxl> oh cyrillic
[19:15] <wxl> well at least it's a gui :)
[19:15] <tortik> russian... I hot send
[19:15] <wxl> anyways hit the thing that says "send report"
[19:15] <tortik> oh
[19:15] <tortik> I see packages
[19:15] <wxl> cute favicon btw
[19:16] <tortik> lsb-release 4.0-0ubuntu20.2
[19:16] <tortik> what is this package related to?
[19:16] <wxl> that's quite strange
[19:17] <wxl> it just reports the version
[19:17] <wxl> http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise-updates/lsb-release
[19:17] <tortik> http://higgs.rghost.ru/private/43729501/69ea96d0773afc7c6d16657843d62f4b/image.png
[19:18] <wxl> cool
[19:18] <wxl> well make sure you submit that bug
[19:18] <wxl> it's a strange one for sure
[19:18] <wxl> open a terminal and do "lsb_release -a" and tell me what happens
[19:18] <tortik> what do you mean? post it in a bug tracker or just send the problem?
[19:19] <Unit193> 4.0-0ubuntu20.2 is the current version.
[19:19] <tortik> a sec...
[19:19] <wxl> tortik: those are one in the same-- sending the problem does post it in the bug tracker
[19:19] <tortik> No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID:	Ubuntu Description:	Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS Release:	12.04 Codename:	precise
[19:19] <wxl> looks normal to me
[19:20] <wxl> mention the fact that that command works fine in terminal when you send to bug tracker
[19:21] <tortik> so is any way to fix that problem now?
[19:22] <wxl> without knowing what the problem is, nope
[19:22] <wxl> never had that before, that's for sure
[19:23] <Unit193> Indeed, I've had several apport crashes, that's not one of them.
[19:24] <tortik> Also such thing I get with cups driver... printer doesn't work well and such problem every running lubuntu
[19:26] <wxl> personally i'd hoist that one up the cups flag
[19:26] <wxl> incidentially that's #cups on here
[21:57] <twmb> does lubuntu have seed files similar to Debian for unattended installation?
[21:58] <Unit193> !automate | Like this?
[21:58] <Unit193> ubottu: ping
[22:01] <twmb> Unit193: yes that would be like it... figured I'd ask in case lubuntu changed the part that ubuntu inherited the seed files from debian
[22:54] <ofbea> hi
[22:54] <zleap> hi
[22:54] <ofbea> is lubuntu send local search to amazon like ubuntu?
[22:54] <zleap> what is the package for logging in at the login screen but connecting to a remote computer e.g pi
[22:55] <zleap> not sure
[23:09] <wxl> zleap: huh?
[23:12] <zleap> never mind
[23:12] <zleap> at one time you could get to a login screen and select some option to login toi a remote computer,  this has gone and i don't know what to i nstall to allow it
[23:17] <wxl> zleap: never seen that before, not at the login screen at least.
[23:17] <zleap> ok
[23:18] <wxl> there are tons of remote login options though
[23:18] <wxl> ssh
[23:18] <wxl> vnc
[23:18] <wxl> rdp
[23:18] <wxl> vpn in a sense
[23:18] <wxl> etc. etc.
[23:19] <zleap> ok
[23:19] <zleap> i have vnc
[23:19] <zleap> bt i jhave to login first to run the client
[23:19] <zleap> if there was an option at login screen to connect to remote computer it would be an option
[23:19] <wxl> i don't think anything like that ever existed
[23:20] <zleap> not in lubuntu anyway
[23:21] <wxl> this is what you mean? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/09/ubuntu-12-10-login-screen-adds-remote-desktop-access
[23:22] <zleap> yes
[23:23] <wxl> yeah you'd need to set up lubuntu to do it
[23:24] <wxl> probably wouldn't be that hard…