[00:28] <Langley> Help, I'm trying to network share a folder, but when trying to access it from my other machine (Linux Mint) it just gets a "Permission denied"
[00:50] <sary> Langley: what are the permissions for your home directory , and when you right-click on the folder what options you set there!
[00:53] <EleanorEllis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto instructs how to verify the Ubuntu ISO with sha256sum but then instructs to verify the burnt disk with md5sum. Why is md5sum used for the DVD?
[00:54] <EleanorEllis> I mean instead of sha256sum
[00:56] <Langley> sary, I fixed it by adding "force user = langley" to my smb.conf
[00:59] <sary> Langley: Ok.
[01:00] <sary> EleanorEllis: you have the option to sha256sum the iso , so what's the problem!
[01:01] <EleanorEllis> sary: So why not sha256sum the DVD as well. Just trying to understand.
[01:02] <theablestman> hello how do i install steam on 14.04lts again
[01:02] <histo> !info steam | theablestman
[01:02] <theablestman> ty
[01:02] <PipeItToDevNull> apt install steam
[01:02] <theablestman> k
[01:03] <theablestman> ty
[01:03] <theablestman> apt-get hehe
[01:03] <histo> !info steam tahr
[01:03] <PipeItToDevNull> apt is pretier
[01:03] <histo> !info steam trusty
[01:03] <PipeItToDevNull> Offer a command, or just spam the channel, both work
[01:03] <theablestman> sudo apt-get install steam
[01:04] <theablestman> its installing ty
[01:04] <sary> EleanorEllis: Ubuntu distributes the SHA-256 checksum hashes in a file called SHA256SUMS in the same directory listing as the download page for your release http://releases.ubuntu.com # cd download_directory , sha256sum ubunt-17.10-dvd-i386.iso
[01:04] <histo> PipeItToDevNull: Sorry wasn't trying to spam, my client is all jacked up right now. Was trying to redirect to hi.
[01:06] <EleanorEllis> Anyway, the procedure to check the DVD detailed in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto doesn't work for me. What I did is here: https://pastebin.com/fkfMmfh9
[01:07] <Langley> Is there any way to see if my wireless card (using as a hotspot) is running in 802.11n mode?
[01:07] <[n0mad]> EleanorEllis: did you burn the iso to dvd?
[01:08] <titanium> after adding a rule to iptables, is there anything you have to do to have it take effect? I have some rules that work, and then added more and the new ones do not do anything.
[01:08] <[n0mad]> unless you are burning the iso to dvd you have no need to do that, hence "optional"
[01:08] <EleanorEllis> sary: I already verified the ISO using SHA256. It would just seem more consistent if the guide used SHA256 throughout, since I understood that SHA256 is more reliable than MD5SUM. Maybe with sha256sum it is not possible to subtract the extra data from the sum? I don't know, but it would be helpful if the guide explained why the two commands are used.
[01:09] <EleanorEllis> [n0mad]: Yes I burnt the iso to DVD. That's why I am trying to verify it!
[01:09] <titanium> https://pastebin.com/Btd2qzpK is what I have, and it does block <IP_ADDRESS>, but not <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:10] <[n0mad]> well the error makes it seem like the dvd isn't there
[01:11] <EleanorEllis> [n0mad]: It looks to me more like md5sum is expecting a filename rather than a checksum
[01:11] <[n0mad]> nah
[01:12] <titanium> Unless you expect someone to be attacking you, md5 is perfectly fine. CRC32 is also perfectly fine for verifying a DVD was burned properly
[01:12] <Bashing-om> EleanorEllis: "That's why I am trying to verify it!" In the boot menu is " check disk for defects " . I find it reliable .
[01:12] <sary> EleanorEllis: you're right , i suppose you can report this to the wiki/doc team here in irc .. i don't recall the coreect channel .. could be #ubuntu-doc !
[01:13] <EleanorEllis> Bashing-om: I am burning several DVDs for different flavours so I would rather verify them all before I reboot. Booting each DVD will take more time on my slow machine
[01:14] <sary> make sure the burn speed is either 2x or 4x , not higher!
[01:14] <EleanorEllis> titanium: So md5sum will be faster and in this case there is no disadvantage. Now I understand. Thanks
[01:15] <EleanorEllis> sary: Should I enable or disable "Burn-proof"?
[01:16] <titanium> both should run faster than your cd can read data
[01:16] <sary> EleanorEllis:  what is that , a new tech!
[01:16] <titanium> the problem with md5 is an attacker can with a little effort make two different files that have the same hash
[01:17] <sary> EleanorEllis: no i woudln't enable that!
[01:17] <EleanorEllis> sary: xfburn has an option for "Burn-proof"
[01:18] <sary> it's been awhile since i burned an iso to cd/dvd , i prefer a usb media.
[01:19] <[n0mad]> i have stacks of dvds that have never been used
[01:19] <sary> EleanorEllis: well, i just read about it .. it's a BURN-Proof technology located on firmware inside the CD-R or CD-RW .. http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/BURN-Proof-Buffer-Under-Run-Error-Proof
[01:21] <titanium> also, nobody uses dvds anymore, you can boot from usb on anything made in the last several years
[01:22] <titanium> and 4GB usb keys are pratically free
[01:24] <EleanorEllis> sary: Yes I used to prefer usb media but now reading about BadUSB I have stopped doing that for installation media https://duckduckgo.com/?q=bad+usb&t=canonical&ia=web
[01:26] <sary> EleanorEllis: That;s news to me, thanks for sharin'!
[01:26] <kode54> titanium: more like 8GB USB keys, for most newer stuff
[01:27] <EleanorEllis> sary: I was surprised that all the articles date from 2015, yet I hadn't seen more of this.
[01:27] <kode54> oh wait, most Linux Live images fit on 4GB
[01:27] <EleanorEllis> I mean in the mainstream press
[01:28] <kode54> so wait
[01:28] <kode54> because of an article about potentially mallicious USB devices
[01:29] <kode54> you won't trust your own USB devices any more?
[01:29] <kode54> that particular hole assumes someone is going to cram a fully functional computer into a USB stick, and pass it off to you
[01:30] <kode54> already an expensive little device, so clearly, your information must be terribly valuable to someone
[01:31] <EleanorEllis> kode54: Sarcasm is not terribly helpful, neither is ridicule.
[01:31] <kode54> fine
[01:31] <kode54> be paranoid
[01:31] <kode54> I'll be gone
[01:32] <EleanorEllis> !politeness
[01:33] <leftyfb> EleanorEllis: if you buy a USB drive from a reputable store and load it up with your installation image, there is no worry of a "badusb"
[01:34] <EleanorEllis> Lots of USB devices automatically install software on the computer they are plugged into (though to be honest, I have only seen this behaviour on windows machines), so it wouldn't be difficult to insert malware into the firmware.
[01:35] <leftyfb> EleanorEllis: not something you really have to worry with on linux
[01:35] <EleanorEllis> leftyfb: Well, I have no problems with DVDs and I don't have that many USB drives hanging around
[01:38] <leftyfb> EleanorEllis: sure, but to say you don't trust any usb drive for installation media because of a windows exploit with usb drives, there's really no need to worry. A windows exploit is not relevant when you're only running linux or if you're booting from the flash drive to install linux
[01:41] <leftyfb> also if you have run from media disabled in Windows
[01:41] <leftyfb> a DVD drive can do the same thing
[01:53] <egor83> Is there are risk that any potential problems would arise if I update git to later version?
[01:54] <egor83> Recently updated server now has git 2.11, my local machine (Ubuntu MATE) has 1.9.1, and it's causing some minor problems - I tried upgrading, but apparently 1.9.1 is the latest in included repos. I found how to install 2.11 directly, but I was wondering if any issues could arise with it, v1 <> v2 being a big change and all, hence the question.
[02:01] <egor83> (not too much, it seems: https://felipec.wordpress.com/2014/05/29/git-v2-0-0/ )
[02:03] <oerheks_> egor83,  you could use the git ppa, and recieve updates too https://launchpad.net/~git-core/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[02:03] <oerheks_> or the latest release candidates, but then you must have a reason to do so, it is testing
[02:04] <egor83> oerheks_: yep, that's what I found. I was wondering if anything could break on the system - I mean, there might be some reason why git v2 hasn't been included yet, no?
[02:04] <oerheks_> not for the LTS releases, indeed. security fixes are backported though
[02:05] <egor83> (not too sure about details of inclusion/exclusion of package versions between distros, etc, so might be a newbie question)
[02:05] <oerheks_> current zesty 17.04 provides 2.11
[02:05] <oerheks_> !info git-core
[02:06] <egor83> ah yes, I'm on LTS release locally (14.04) - so, just to confirm - LTSes do not get newer versions of installed packages, except for security stuff?
[02:06] <oerheks_> correct
[02:07] <egor83> thanks a lot! gotta get me a new git now :)
[02:07] <oerheks_> have fun
[02:08] <EleanorEllis> leftyfb: Fair enough. I still prefer to have installation media read-only, and it is much easier and cheaper for me to have several DVDs knocking around than several USB sticks.
[02:10] <jnewt> running x11vnc on my ubuntu-mate install.  need to scale the text / icons up when vnc connected so i can see them.  already had to clip and scale the multiple desktops, and i'm close to a useable setup, just can't read the text and the icons are tiny.
[02:11] <jnewt> the problem was that I have a 4k + an extra monitor (sometimes 2 on the desktop), so i cliped and scaled the 4k to 1920x1080, but in the process scaled down the icons and text as well from what I can tell.
[02:27] <codepython7771> https://paste.ubuntu.com/25109155/ - anyone can help me debug this service?
[02:29] <[n0mad]> codepython7771: i can't really be of help but there's also #redis
[02:34] <S1GM4> Hola
[02:37] <S1GM4> I'm trying to disable entirely Unity, etc. and boot just into CLI. I'm fairly certain I know how to do that. I mostly SSH into the box and use it via CLI
[02:37] <S1GM4> I want to make sure after I make the changes, if I do a restart or power the machine on/off and am nowhere in it, that once it starts back up, it will get right back on the network and allow me to SSH into the box
[02:37] <S1GM4> Possible?
[02:39] <oerheks_> S1GM4, sure, current your boot is set to graphical.target
[02:39] <oerheks_> you can change this to tty, sudo systemctl set-default multi-user.target
[02:39] <oerheks_> or reverse back sudo systemctl set-default graphical.target
[02:40] <S1GM4> hmm I had no idea of this method, I was looking into editing some grub file
[02:40] <oerheks_> and for starting back up, not sure autologin will be enabled
[02:41] <S1GM4> Created symlink from /etc/systemd/system/default.target to /lib/systemd/system/multi-user.target.
[02:44] <DanteEdward> I require a halp :u
[02:45] <S1GM4> exec /bin/login -f bob < /dev/tty1 > /dev/tty1 2>&1   <--- this line is still good for modern Ubuntu versions, where bob is the user?
[02:45] <DanteEdward> Whenever I open menu bar menus on Teamspeak and/or VLC, the menu appears notably far away from the thing that I clicked
[02:45] <S1GM4> (/etc/init/tty1.conf)
[03:29] <marco25> is there a update to this issue in ubuntu.. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=860805
[03:56] <oerheks_> marco25,  on artfull it seems fixed https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/beignet
[03:57] <marco25> thanks
[04:07] <RBoreal_Frippery> Hey guys, really weird problem if you have any idea: Fresh install of 16.04. System will start and run fine, and when it is open (the laptop screen) it will suspend and resume ok. Also, if I set options so that closing the screen does nothing, then I can close and open the screen and the system will continue to run fine. The problem is that if I suspend the system (using any method) and then close the lid and open it, the system will start to r
[04:07] <RBoreal_Frippery> esume for one second and then just die completely. I can start it right up after that again. 100% reproducible.
[04:14] <marco25> oerheks_, ive having trouble building that file i guess there is no deb for that is there?
[04:15] <oerheks_> marco25, only for zesty, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/beignet/1.3.0-4ubuntu1
[04:15] <Hitechcg> Hi, in Ubuntu 16.04.2's menu "Suspend" and "Hibernate" seem to be missing. Pressing the power button then clicking on one of the actions that appear works fine, as do pm-suspend and pm-hibernate in a terminal. What would cause this and how do I fix it?
[04:16] <marco25> well i have zesty
[04:17] <marco25> oerheks_, your saying a deb file is there?
[04:18] <oerheks_> marco25,  see that page, you should have that version already
[04:18] <marco25> no i dont have that version already
[04:19] <oerheks_> oh wait, artfull ..
[04:19] <marco25> i have 1.3.0-2
[04:19] <marco25> this is -4 oerheks_
[04:19] <oerheks_> no, you have to build it yourself then, i guess
[04:20] <marco25> im having errors with cmake
[04:20] <marco25> oerheks_,
[04:20] <oerheks_> it should match the intel driver version too
[04:22] <marco25> i used this command cmake -DLLVM_INSTALL_DIR=/usr/bin/lib/llvm-4.0/bin/llvm-config -DCOMPILER=[GCC|CLANG|ICC]
[04:22] <marco25> i got this error.. ICC]: command not found
[04:22] <marco25> CLANG: command not found
[04:22] <marco25> oerheks_,
[04:25] <oerheks_> err, this is way over my head, maybe someone else can help you out there.
[04:25] <berkiyo> are other ubuntu flavours discussed in this channel?
[04:25] <berkiyo> like problems relating to them?
[04:26] <berkiyo> eg: xubuntu, ubuntu mate etc
[04:27] <oerheks_> berkiyo, yes, still most flavors have their dedicated channel too here on #freenode
[04:27] <marco25> oerheks_, i think i found a deb file for it
[04:39] <berkiyo> What is the fastest ubuntu worldwide mirror? Or is it best to choose local?
[04:41] <vbotka> berkiyo, https://askubuntu.com/questions/39922/how-do-you-select-the-fastest-mirror-from-the-command-line
[04:44] <vbotka> berkiyo, There is a xubuntu channel. This channel is for common Ubuntu issues, I think.
[04:44] <berkiyo> Yeah,
[04:44] <berkiyo> thanks :)
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> anyone suffered this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1704409 on 16.04.2 plz add yourself affected
[06:00] <oerheks_> hi lotus, did you try "tearfree" and "sna" ? https://askubuntu.com/questions/921755/screen-tearing-with-intel-graphics &&& https://askubuntu.com/questions/418398/tear-free-disabled-in-intel-graphics-tearing-in-xubuntu
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> oerheks_: ive readed that, yes but didnt try on 4.8 kernel
[07:16] <DanteEdward> Question
[07:17] <DanteEdward> Is there a way to force a specific fullscreen game to draw on a specific monitor on a multi-monitor system
[07:23] <oerheks_> this old tool should be able too, https://launchpad.net/gdevilspie
[07:24] <DanteEdward> I suppose I could give it a try
[07:25] <oerheks_> some examples https://askubuntu.com/questions/102616/is-it-possible-to-pin-programs-to-specific-workspaces-without-ccsm
[07:26] <oerheks_> the gui tool could be handy
[07:46] <BeyondStupid> hello
[07:48] <BeyondStupid> hello, I have an issue that I can not find solution for: there is audio coming from chromium, but there is nothing from kde. Tried both backends, gstreamer and vlc. alsamixer shows a proper audio device and I can adjust volumes. I do not have pulsaudio installed. Only alsa. the kde, depending on what backend I use displays default device (if I use phonon-gstreamer) and default + couple of broadwell-rt286 devices. speaker-test -t
[07:52] <debouncer> Hello
[07:52] <debouncer> A few days ago, I installed xubuntu DE via dkpg and uninstalled it but the login screen didn't restore its default appareance
[07:53] <debouncer> How can I recover it? I tried apt-get purge xubuntu* xfce*.
[07:53] <debouncer> Any help would be appreciated
[08:02] <akik> debouncer: the package install log is in /var/log/apt/history.log. it will list all the packages that were installed
[08:14] <lordl> Hello guys! How can I configure a interface with my public IP? I am running Ubuntu 17.04 (64bit).
[08:17] <lordl> Hello guys! How can I configure an interface with my public IP? I am running Ubuntu 17.04 (64bit).
[08:22] <xplora1a> lordl, so are you connecting your ubuntu machine directly to the connection on which that IP is dilevered or are you behind a router.
[08:23] <lordl> xplora1a, I am running it on VirtualBox. It is on Bridge Adapter, so it has a new local IP address on my router.
[08:24] <xplora1a> if behing a non-NAT router then the router DHCP needs to be configured to allocate public IPs to your internal machines.
[08:24] <lordl> It does not support NAT Loopback.
[08:25] <xplora1a> then you want to set port forwarding to map the port to the virtual machine. Not put the external IP on that interface
[08:25] <lordl> Could you tell me why a program detects that my IP is dynamic? It is static.
[08:26] <lordl> I want to see my public IP address instead of my local IP address when I execute ifconfig.
[08:27] <xplora1a> from behing a NAT router you cant see your external IP directly, to see that google what is my IP address
[08:27] <lordl> I know what is my public IP address.
[08:27] <lordl> But what do I need to do what I said.
[08:28] <lordl> To configure the "enp0s3" interface with my public IP address.
[08:29] <lordl> I have another router that supports NAT Loopback.
[08:29] <lordl> Did you get me?
[08:29] <lordl> I know my public IP address.
[08:31] <xplora1a> You cant configure an interface behind a NAT router with a public IP. You need to forward the port you are connection to, or set your machine as the default, also called the DMZ, but this is dangerious. Better to port forward.
[08:32] <lordl> My router is not a NAT router.
[08:32] <lordl> I have an OpenSSH Server.
[08:33] <lordl> On many OpenSSH Servers I saw thei public IP addresses when I executed ifconfig.
[08:34] <lordl> How did they do that?
[08:37] <PinkiePie> that could be a real server with a "real" public IP address
[08:38] <lordl> Okay, but how can I do the same thing?
[08:38] <PinkiePie> In your setup you would likely need to (a) set up port forwarding from your router to your host IP, and (b) set up port forwarding in Virtualbox from the host to the guest
[08:38] <lordl> I did this.
[08:38] <lordl> My OpenSSH Server is opened.
[08:38] <lordl> On my public IP address.
[08:39] <lordl> The FTP Server too.
[08:39] <lordl> Apache2, MySQL etc.
[08:39] <PinkiePie> and those run on the host?
[08:39] <lordl> Yes.
[08:39] <lordl> On the same host.
[08:39] <lordl> On my IP address.
[08:39] <PinkiePie> what are you trying to host from the virtualbox?
[08:39] <lordl> An Ubuntu Server.
[08:40] <PinkiePie> you wouldn't be able to have both your host and your guest listening on the same IP on the same port
[08:40] <lordl> It works, but I want something.
[08:40] <lordl> It is on Bridge Adapter.
[08:40] <PinkiePie> what port are you trying to access?
[08:40] <lordl> I do not need to port forward from VirtualBox.
[08:40] <lordl> Just from router.
[08:40] <PinkiePie> right
[08:40] <PinkiePie> OK
[08:40] <lordl> I'm not trying to access a port.
[08:40] <lordl> They work.
[08:40] <lordl> The server works.
[08:40] <lordl> But I want to do something on it.
[08:40] <PinkiePie> OK then, the answer to your question is that you can't do what you want to do
[08:40] <xplora1a> Remember that an IP address is associated with an interface, not a computer. Most machines only have one interface.
[08:41] <PinkiePie> let's say your public IP is <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:41] <lordl> Okay.
[08:41] <PinkiePie> It's your router which has that IP, essentially
[08:41] <PinkiePie> Not any device on your network
[08:41] <lordl> I can't access my router on through my public IP address.
[08:41] <lordl> Just on its IP address. <IP_ADDRESS>, in my case.
[08:41] <PinkiePie> what are you actually trying to achieve overall?
[08:42] <lordl> I don't know how to explain, but when I execute "ifconfig" on my server I see 2 interfaces.
[08:42] <xplora1a> if you have a range of public IP addresses, you assign one to the router, then internal machines can be allocated others from that range.
[08:42] <lordl> enp0s3 and localhost.
[08:42] <PinkiePie> ignore localhost, localhost is special and used only for local access
[08:42] <lordl> I know.
[08:42] <PinkiePie> OK
[08:42] <lordl> The IP address on enp0s3 is <IP_ADDRESS>.
[08:42] <xplora1a> if you only have one public IP then you have to assign that to the router.
[08:43] <lordl> And I want to get my public IP address there.
[08:43] <PinkiePie> you cannot
[08:43] <lordl> But I saw many servers with this "feature".
[08:43] <PinkiePie> they were not using virtualbox behind a router
[08:43] <lordl> So, what are they using?
[08:44] <PinkiePie> they were servers in a datacentre where a router was listening on more than 1 IP, and thus able to give 1 IP to each of many servers
[08:44] <PinkiePie> you physically cannot do what you are trying to do
[08:44] <lordl> But I want to give my single public IP address to my server.
[08:44] <PinkiePie> maybe someone in #networking can explain better than me
[08:44] <lordl> One IP to one server.
[08:44] <lordl> Okay..
[08:44] <PinkiePie> You cannot, as it's your router which "has" that IP
[08:44] <PinkiePie> Your only option is port forwarding
[08:45] <lordl> My router doesn't have my public IP address.
[08:45] <PinkiePie> If you do ifconfig on the host system do you see your public IP?
[08:45] <lordl> No.
[08:45] <lordl> Just its local IP address.
[08:45] <lordl> On the router.
[08:45] <PinkiePie> Then it's your router which has the public IP address
[08:45] <lordl> <IP_ADDRESS>.
[08:45] <PinkiePie> Right
[08:45] <lordl> My router is <IP_ADDRESS>.
[08:46] <PinkiePie> that is your router's address within your network
[08:46] <PinkiePie> your router has multiple network interfaces
[08:46] <lordl> Yes, it has.
[08:46] <PinkiePie> one (WAN) listens on the public internet with <IP_ADDRESS>, and another (LAN1) listens on <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:46] <lordl> And it has many devices on it.
[08:46] <lordl> I know.  You cannot have multiple devices behind a single IP, AND have the IP assigned to only one device.
[08:47] <PinkiePie> It's a logical impossibility
[08:47] <lordl> But for a friend it worked.
[08:47] <lordl> I do not know how.
[08:47] <lordl> I helped him to install Ubuntu on VirtualBox.
[08:47] <PinkiePie> It is technically possible to do, but you would lose the ability to have more than one device on your network, and it might not be possible to do with your router
[08:47] <lordl> And when he executed ifconfig I saw his public IP address.
[08:48] <PinkiePie> I strongly suspect you don't want to do this. You can still achieve the overall goal (hosting a public server in virtualbox) using port forwarding
[08:48] <lordl> So, I will be able to access the internet only through my computer.
[08:48] <lordl> ?
[08:48] <lordl> Am I right?
[08:48] <PinkiePie> How does your router connect to the internet, do you have an ethernet jack on your wall or it is a phone line?
[08:49] <lordl> I have optical fiber.
[08:49] <lordl> Through cable.
[08:49] <lordl> I have wired connection.
[08:49] <PinkiePie> you have a separate modem?
[08:49] <lordl> No.
[08:49] <lordl> I have just a router.
[08:50] <PinkiePie> what cable does the router use to connect to the wall?
[08:50] <PinkiePie> *(your router has a modem built in)
[08:50] <lordl> But I have Phone, Television and Internet from my ISP.
[08:50] <PinkiePie> what cable does the router use to connect to the wall?
[08:50] <lordl> Let me check.
[08:52] <lordl> Okay.
[08:52] <lordl> I'm back.
[08:52] <lordl> I can see 3 cables in the Ethernet's slots.
[08:52] <lordl> One to my computer.
[08:52] <lordl> One to a TV.
[08:52] <lordl> And one to I do not really know..
[08:53] <lordl> I think to another TV.
[08:53] <lordl> Are you still there?
[08:53] <PinkiePie> hi yes sorry working
[08:53] <lordl> It's okay.
[08:53] <PinkiePie> Which cable connects to your wall?
[08:53] <PinkiePie> Is it an ethernet cable or something else?
[08:54] <lordl> Yes.
[08:54] <lordl> Ethernet cable.
[08:56] <lordl> PinkiePie, where are you from?
[08:56] <lordl> I am from Romania.
[08:56] <PinkiePie> UK
[08:56] <lordl> Nice.
[08:56] <PinkiePie> OK lordl you would be able to connect your PC directly to your wall using an ethernet cable
[08:56] <lordl> Yes.
[08:56] <PinkiePie> And then you could assign your public IP to an interface on your PC
[08:56] <lordl> Wait.
[08:57] <lordl> Wait.
[08:57] <PinkiePie> but you'd have to choose between your host and your guest
[08:57] <lordl> You mean to connect it directly?
[08:57] <lordl> Not through router?
[08:57] <PinkiePie> yes
[08:57] <PinkiePie> yes
[08:57] <PinkiePie> See this is what I am tryiing to say, you almost certainly don't want this
[08:57] <lordl> Through the cable from ISP?
[08:57] <lordl> ?
[08:58] <PinkiePie> yes instead of [Internet]->[Router]->[PC] you would go [Internet]->[PC]
[08:58] <lordl> Okay.
[08:58] <lordl> You are right.
[08:58] <PinkiePie> that way you would need to assign your public IP directly, or it may pick it up through DHCP
[08:58] <lordl> I will need 2 public IP addresses then.
[08:58] <PinkiePie> but again, you couldn't have both your host and guest
[08:58] <lordl> To connect the second cable to a router.
[08:58] <PinkiePie> right, and you probably don't have 2 public IP addresses
[08:58] <lordl> Yes, I do not have.
[08:58] <PinkiePie> so in real life your options all involve port forwarding
[08:59] <lordl> Instead of [Internet]->[PC]?
[08:59] <PinkiePie> Yes
[08:59] <lordl> I have port forwarding.
[08:59] <lordl> For SSH, FTP, Shellinabox, MySQL, Unrealircd, Apache2.
[09:00] <lordl> On <IP_ADDRESS>, which is my server's assigned IP address on router.
[09:00] <PinkiePie> I think I understand your setup but can you confirm something
[09:00] <PinkiePie> if you log onto your router's web interface, and try to find a list of connected devices
[09:00] <PinkiePie> do you see both your host and guest IPs?
[09:01] <lordl> What do you mean when you say guest?
[09:01] <PinkiePie> host = the OS installed on your actual computer
[09:01] <PinkiePie> guest = the OS inside Virtualbox
[09:01] <lordl> Yes.
[09:01] <lordl> Oh..
[09:01] <lordl> That's the guest?
[09:01] <lordl> Okay..
[09:01] <PinkiePie> yeah virtualbox uses "host" and "guest" to tell the difference
[09:02] <lordl> Yes.
[09:02] <lordl> I can see the both.
[09:02] <lordl> My computer and my server.
[09:03] <PinkiePie> OK then your only option is to use the port forwarding from your router to send traffic for a particular port (e.g. 80) to the guest IP
[09:03] <PinkiePie> hang on
[09:03] <lordl> I did it.
[09:03] <PinkiePie> "my computer and my server" - the "server" being the OS installed inside Virtualbox?
[09:03] <lordl> Yes.
[09:04] <PinkiePie> Then you're done. It's AS IF your server was listening directly on the public IP (even though really, it's behind a router)
[09:04] <lordl> I know, I can access it through my public IP address.
[09:04] <lordl> I didn't say that I can't do this.
[09:05] <lordl> I said that I see my local IP address when I execute ifconfig, even if I am connected on the public IP address.
[09:05] <lordl> Did you get me?
[09:05] <PinkiePie> I get you, but it's working as intended.
[09:06] <lordl> But on some servers from Digital Ocean and other firms I've seen the public IP address on their interfaces.
[09:06] <lordl> They are connected directly to the ISP?
[09:06] <lordl> [Internet]->[PC\?
[09:06] <lordl> [Internet]->[PC]?
[09:06] <PinkiePie> You only have 1 IP address
[09:06] <lordl> Yes..
[09:07] <PinkiePie> They have enough IP addresses to give every server behind their router, its own public IP
[09:07] <lordl> But I can buy another public IP address.
[09:07] <PinkiePie> Your router listens on e.g. <IP_ADDRESS>/32 which is a single IP
[09:07] <lordl> One for me and one for home :).
[09:07] <PinkiePie> One of their routers may listen on <IP_ADDRESS>/24 which would give 255 IP addresses <IP_ADDRESS>.0 - <IP_ADDRESS>.254
[09:07] <lordl> I will talk to that friend to see what does he have..
[09:08] <lordl> what he has*
[09:08] <PinkiePie> Your ISP might sell you additional IP addresses, but it's unlikely for a home connection
[09:08] <lordl> Sorry for mistakes.
[09:08] <PinkiePie> Even getting a static IP is difficult these days
[09:08] <lordl> Oh, wait.
[09:08] <lordl> Another problem.
[09:08] <lordl> Why a program detects that I have dynamic IP address?
[09:08] <lordl> When I have a static IP address.
[09:09] <lordl> Why does a program detect*
[09:09] <lordl> Oops.
[09:09] <lordl> When I restart my router I do not get another IP address.
[09:11] <lordl> Anyway, thank you for explaining me these things.
[09:11] <lordl> And sorry for my bad English.
[09:11] <sebsebseb>
[09:12] <lordl> By the way, what are you doing? I mean, what's your job/hobby?
[09:16] <PinkiePie> I work in devops for a big telecomm
[09:16] <PinkiePie> My only notable hobby is IRC
[09:16] <lordl> I am 14 years old, you?
[09:16] <PinkiePie> how about you?
[09:16] <lordl> Oh, okay.
[09:16] <PinkiePie> 26
[09:16] <lordl> Wow!
[09:16] <PinkiePie> :/
[09:16] <lordl> What?
[09:16] <lordl> Is this a problem?
[09:16] <PinkiePie> "wow" yourself :P
[09:16] <lordl> :)
[09:17] <lordl> I am learning more programming.
[09:17] <PinkiePie> you ask the right questions for a 14 year old, keep doing this stuff
[09:17] <lordl> Thanks!
[09:17] <PinkiePie> go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:17] <lordl> I will.
[09:18] <lordl> Do you know what I want to do?
[09:18] <lordl> I intend to build the biggest cracking platform in the world :).
[09:18] <lordl> A big community.
[09:19] <PinkiePie> tell me about it in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[09:19] <lordl> Oh, okay.
[09:32] <karab44> hello
[09:33] <lordl> Hello!
[09:33] <debouncer> hi
[09:33] <karab44> I have a question. My two NTFS disks are on launcher and it's great but they are mounted as read-only. How to easily change this to rw ?
[09:34] <lordl> Wait.
[09:34] <lordl> I know..
[09:34] <lordl> mount -o remount,rw /
[09:36] <karab44> why /  ?
[09:36] <lordl> I do not know, I had a similar problem and that command solved it.
[09:37] <debouncer> Is there anybody who tried qchart in pyqt?
[09:37] <debouncer> I look for a replacement of matplotlib
[09:37] <karab44> lordl:  why you provide commands you do not know what they actually do? :/
[09:37] <karab44> it can harm others computer
[09:38] <debouncer> sorry wrong channel
[09:38] <lordl> :)
[09:38] <lordl> I thought it works.
[09:38] <lordl> For me it worked.
[09:38] <karab44> ...
[09:39] <lordl> To remount with read and write.
[09:39] <lordl> Just try it.
[09:40] <karab44> if you tell me what does it exactly do I will try :}
[09:40] <lordl> Oh.
[09:41] <lordl> It remounts the disk with read and write properties.
[09:43] <karab44> it's not exactly
[09:43] <karab44> it's general
[09:45] <karab44> ok I used this command sudo mount -o rw,uid=1000,gid=1000,user,exec,umask=003,blksize=4096 /dev/sdb1 /media/karab44/storage
[09:45] <karab44> and it said
[09:46] <karab44> Falling back to read-only mount because the NTFS partition is in an
[09:46] <karab44> unsafe state. Please resume and shutdown Windows fully (no hibernation
[09:46] <karab44> or fast restarting.)
[09:46] <karab44> What is weird because it's not my OS partition
[09:48] <karab44> so I guess I have to disable fastboot
[09:50] <amitsharma928> Hi All
[09:51] <amitsharma928> in Ubuntu 16.04 while I Right click..."Move to Trash" is not shown.
[09:51] <amitsharma928> I can't delete files using Delete key
[09:51] <amitsharma928> Shift + Delete is working
[09:52] <pizzaBurger> Hello, can't print double-sided. Print -> Page Setup -> Layout -> Two-sided: not available. Running xubuntu 17.04. Printer HP Laser Jet M1132 MFP. Any suggestions? Thanks!
[10:05] <glitsj16> amitsharma928: Hi, have you checked if the trash folder exists on your filesystem? It should be in ~/.local/share/Trash, check permissions too..
[10:10] <konrados> Hi, a noob here :( I've just installed kubuntu on Samsung R522 - it doesn't want to connect to the ethernet (wire), what am I supposed to do?
[10:10] <konrados> Please... I'm a bit tired, have been struggling with for the last 30h
[10:11] <amitsharma928> glitsj16: Yes. I have checked that. permission is 777 and owner is non-root user.
[10:11] <konrados> oh, it's actually 36h already:(
[10:12] <glitsj16> amitsharma928: okay, that part looks as it should be.. in what filemanager is the 'Move to Trash' item missing? Nautilus?
[10:20] <glitsj16> pizzaBurger: you might need to set your printer options for double-sided printing, have you checked that?
[10:25] <sebsebseb> konrados: got a ethernet connecton as well?
 Yes. It is Nautilus.
[10:26] <amitsharma928> When I use, gksudo nautilus it works well.
[10:26] <adityaduggal> Hi Can any one tell me if I can pin frequently used filed to the dock, like in Windows?
[10:26] <pizzaBurger> glitsj16: I go to printer properties -> job options -> sides     only "one-sided" option is available
[10:29] <konrados> sebsebseb, hi!!!! I was hoping you'll be here:) I managed to connect via wi-fi, right now it is enough for me :) but... I can't install anything with sudo apt-get install, like I tried apt-get install fish - and I see 'couldn't find fish package' - the same with htop etc, ping google.com works
[10:31] <sebsebseb> konrados: hoping I would be here?
[10:31] <konrados> yes
[10:31] <sebsebseb> yuour the newbie from yesterday ?
[10:31] <konrados> yes....
[10:32] <konrados> :(
[10:32] <sebsebseb> that wanted files
[10:32] <sebsebseb> ?
[10:32] <konrados> yes, I made the backup, this thing is done:)
[10:32] <konrados> sebsebseb, thaaaaank you!
[10:32] <konrados> for yesterday
[10:33] <konrados> but now my ubuntu behaves weirdly imho, why apt-get install doesn't work?
[10:33] <glitsj16> amitsharma928: I would recommend changing permissions to something more secure, like 700, there's no need for other users to use your trash. And recheck that you own the folder, not some other non-root user. Also, run 'gsettings get org.gnome.nautilus.preferences confirm-trash' and 'gsettings get org.gnome.nautilus.preferences show-move-to-trash-shortcut-changed-dialog'
[10:33] <Ben64> konrados: sudo apt-get update
[10:33] <konrados> sec
[10:34] <glitsj16> pizzaBurger: if you can't set it to double-sided and you know for sure your printer can do that, try removing the printer and add it again
[10:34] <angular_mike_>  routing config in /etc/network/interfaces doesn't populate routing table after reboot!
[10:35] <angular_mike_> I keep having to manually do route add gw default gw XXX every time I reboot
[10:36] <Ben64> angular_mike_: you either have it configured incorrectly, or you have a network manager overriding it i guess
[10:36] <sebsebseb> konrados: you need to be online
[10:36] <sebsebseb> konrados: or yes apt-get won't work
[10:37] <angular_mike_> Ben64: I was googling how to configure default gw and I got only /etc/network/interface, nothing about NetworkManager
[10:40] <konrados> sebsebseb, Ben64 - thank you! sudo apt-get update worked... I can go sleep now :) thanks!
[10:40] <Ben64> angular_mike_: if you have a network manager, probably easier to set the stuff there
[10:41] <angular_mike_> Ben64: wait, it doesn't come with Ubuntu Server?
[10:42] <sebsebseb> konrados: sleep? wheere you from
[10:42] <angular_mike_> then I don't have it
[10:43] <angular_mike_> could it be that Ubuntu Server not having a route to default gateway after restart is an inteded feature baked into it?
[10:48] <Ben64> angular_mike_: you never said you were running server...
[10:48] <angular_mike_> Ben64: I mean, that's the default, no?
[10:48] <Ben64> angular_mike_: huh?
[10:48] <angular_mike_> Desktop is server with some stuff added on top
[10:48] <Ben64> not exactly
[10:48] <angular_mike_> why would you assume something else
[10:49] <Ben64> because the vast majority of people here are running desktop
[10:49] <Ben64> when you go to ubuntu.com it directs you to the desktop version
[10:49] <PinkiePie> desktop is core with some stuff on top
[10:49] <PinkiePie> server is core with different stuff
[10:50] <angular_mike_> ok, I didn't know that
[10:51] <angular_mike_> I got a different impression from the install splash
[10:51] <Ben64> anyway, if you don't have a network manager, you probably have the interfaces file incorrect
[10:53] <angular_mike_> Ben64: https://pastebin.com/k5CMtTcT
[10:54] <Ben64> "dhcp"
[10:54] <angular_mike_> what about it?
[10:54] <adityaduggal> Hi Can any one tell me if I can pin frequently used filed to the dock, like in Windows?
[10:54] <angular_mike_> adityaduggal: Unity?
[10:54] <Ben64> change it to static, set all the stuff you want
[10:55] <angular_mike_> Ben64: but then I have to set ip address manually
[10:55] <angular_mike_> which I cant
[10:55] <adityaduggal> No I am using pantheon (elementary) desktop
[10:55] <Ben64> angular_mike_: why not
[10:56] <adityaduggal> But I guess even Unity does not have that kind of utility like windows7 or 8 or 10 where we could just simply pin frequently used files on the dock and then access them with right clicking the application dock
[10:57] <angular_mike_> adityaduggal: https://launchpad.net/pantheon-dock
[10:57] <angular_mike_> adityaduggal: pretty sure that unity had it, by drag and dropping them
[10:57] <angular_mike_> or right clicking when they're active
[10:58] <angular_mike_> Ben64: cuz i dont know what it will be,
[10:58] <angular_mike_> which one will be free
[10:58] <adityaduggal> well I am not talking about Docking the application that is very much possible
[10:58] <angular_mike_> a lot of dynamic starting and stopping is happening in the network
[10:58] <adityaduggal> but I am talking about pinning the most used files like bookmarks specific to that application
[10:58] <Ben64> angular_mike_: then set up your dhcp server properly or set a static ip in the router
[10:58] <angular_mike_> it is a VM host network
[10:58] <adityaduggal> Like in Windows I had 3 or 4 excel files pinned along with excel
[10:59] <angular_mike_> question is why doesnt DHCP set up the deault getway in the routong table
[10:59] <Ben64> angular_mike_: indeed
[10:59] <angular_mike_> adityaduggal: oh, you mean files?
[10:59] <angular_mike_> not applications
[10:59] <adityaduggal> angular_mike_, Yes dear....
[10:59] <Ben64> angular_mike_: or ignore it by doing some post-up thing in the interfaces file
[11:00] <adityaduggal> angular_mike_, Application docking is available in both Pantheon and unity but file docking is not there and I am not asking for docking files individually since that would make the dock TOO BIG
[11:01] <adityaduggal> So excel files docked under the application dock of Libreoffice and can be accessed by right clicking the Libreoffice dock
[11:13] <XHFHX> Hi there. Why is it possible to see all website-passwords from chrome in the password manager in cleartext without any question for password priviliges? I cant install some random software without being asked for my sudo pw but I can see all passwords for other websites.
[11:15] <Danjemin> Доброго дня. Есть русско-говорящие?
[11:18] <angular_mike_> Danjemin: 今日は
[11:18] <Danjemin> )
[11:18] <Danjemin> https://translate.google.ru/?hl=ru#auto/ru/%E4%BB%8A%E6%97%A5%E3%81%AF
[11:19] <Danjemin> 翻訳は不器用することができます。
[11:20] <adityaduggal> https://github.com/frappe/erpnext/issues
[11:21] <Danjemin> いつも活発な議論が起こってありますか？
[11:21] <glitsj16> XHFHX: ask google why that seems to be the default.. if it still is.. you should check chrome://flags, look for something labelled 'Password Manager Reauthentication' or similar and enable it
[11:25] <angular_mike_> 知らない
[11:25] <artawgn> helo
[11:26] <konrados> tomreyn sary sebsebseb ikonia: thank you very much again for your help. By the way - I've just put a 'normal' (non - live-cd) ubuntu iso pendrive and it started, enabled me to make a backup (ntfs drive) and then install ubuntu. Thank you very very much again!
[11:26] <sebsebseb> konrados: yep that's  the way
[11:26] <konrados> :)
[11:26] <sebsebseb> konrados: good no problems getting into vistas partitino like i siad might have been
[11:27] <sebsebseb> konrados: wait so you sadi this was for your sister? she's going Linux ?
[11:27] <konrados> yeah, that was quite easy after all:) Yes - my sister goes linux :)
[11:27] <sebsebseb> konrados: yay more girl girls h eh
[11:27] <sebsebseb> girl users
[11:28] <konrados> :) I'm a bit scared, she'll probably have lots of questions, but I hope it won't be that bad :)
[11:29] <sebsebseb> konrados: how old is she?
[11:29] <sebsebseb> and you
[11:29] <konrados> she's 40, I'm 36
[11:29] <sebsebseb> konrados: ok what she going to use computer for ?
[11:29] <sebsebseb> oh older than I thought :d h eh
[11:30] <XHFHX> btw - now unity is dropped - which desktop environments looks closest to unity? I don't like KDE and gnome, all screenshots i saw looked very outdated to me.
[11:30] <konrados> sebsebseb, I warned her she will probably not be able to run photoshop and will have problems with ms office docs, but she uses the pc just like most ppl - email, facebook and.... actually that's it:)
[11:30] <sebsebseb> XHFHX: gnome with some scripts and adds on :d  can make look much like unity
[11:31] <konrados> oh, and music
[11:31] <sebsebseb> XHFHX: unity doesn't have to be compeltyl dropped :d
[11:31] <sebsebseb> 1. you can do unity 7 from the repos universe
[11:31] <sebsebseb> 2.  even unity 8 has been forked for the desktop as wel not just mobile as part of ubports.  you can try yunit in 16.04   and 16.10 and 17.04 have the canonical preview but yeah
[11:32] <sebsebseb> XHFHX: Unity 7 will  be provided offially  via repos for a few years or so I Expect,  and Unity 8 in it's two differnet forms will improve via community as well
[11:32] <sebsebseb> konrados: yes like my Mum I finally got her on Linux  in 2012
[11:32] <sebsebseb> diffenret distro
[11:33] <sebsebseb> konrados: email  Mozilla Thunderbird,  web browser,  Mozilla Firefox,  the occassional document stuff sometimes rarely, the pre installed Libre Office yep
[11:33] <sebsebseb> and that's her useage sorted
[11:33] <konrados> yeah, the same with my sister:)
[11:33] <sebsebseb> for music got varous players, and look at The Gimp and Inkscape for a start as photoshop alternative
[11:33] <sebsebseb> s
[11:34] <konrados> hmmm, I thought about gimp, isn't inkscape vector-based?
[11:35] <konrados> ah, yeah, you suggested gimp as well :0
[11:35] <konrados> missed that :)
[11:35] <sebsebseb> konrados: actually these sites are good take a look  http://osalt.com  and http://linuxeq.com
[11:36] <sebsebseb> and browse around the software centre yourself    to see what kind of stuff is availalbe
[11:36] <sebsebseb> thousands of programs availalbe from repos
[11:36] <sebsebseb> !repos
[11:37] <konrados> sebsebseb, - thank you :)
[11:37] <sruli> is it possible to include a dir in suoders but exclude a file from the dir?
[11:38] <Ben64> sruli: what
[11:38] <gede> helo
[11:38] <Danjemin> День добрый. Русскоговорящие есть?
[11:38] <sebsebseb> konrados: also this could be useful for you and your sister
[11:38] <sebsebseb> !manual
[11:38] <Ben64> !ru | Danjemin
[11:39] <sruli> in my sudoers i include a dir for nopasswd, but i need to exclude 1 file from that dir (that file should require sudo password) is it possible?
[11:39] <sruli> Ben64: ^
[11:39] <Ben64> sruli: i don't think it works anything like that
[11:40] <sruli> Ben64: doesnt work like what? including dir for no passwd works fine, are you saying i cant exclude a file from an included dir?
[11:40] <Ben64> sruli: no, i don't think you can specify a directory for nopasswd
[11:42] <sruli> Ben64: you can, i have been using it for a long time, see my file in sudoers.d http://paste.ubuntu.com/25111441/
[11:44] <Ben64> ew, well don't include it in the wildcard
[11:44] <Ben64> it's a big ol security hole anyway though
[11:45] <sruli> Ben64: that dir is owned by root 700 so not really a hole
[11:47] <Ben64> guaranteed to be able to get root shell with that setup
[11:47] <jspaceman> hey sebseb, have a simple question about the firefox browser if you have a second?
[11:48] <sruli> Ben64: 1. you need to be able to get to visudo to see that its NOPASSWD. 2. how can you get a root shell if you've got no read/write on that dir?
[11:48] <Ben64> jspaceman: just ask the channel
[11:49] <jspaceman> yesterday, i was watching twitch with the firefox browser and suddenly the screen would just go white...i couldnt interract with anything
[11:49] <jspaceman> it works fine now but only after a restart
[11:50] <jspaceman> is there an issue i need to look at within firefox?
[11:50] <Ben64> might want to disable hardware acceleration if it's on
[11:58] <jspaceman> thanks, i will look into that
[11:59] <arup_r> can anyone help me to install https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/ruby-nio4r ?
[12:02] <Inferno_geek> arup_r: sudo apt-get install ruby-nio4r
[12:02] <arup_r> ok
[12:04] <Meliorator> hi all, i updgraded to 17.04 to use pulseaudio-equaliser, which i now have working. however, there are a couple of issues that i'd like to resolve: (1) the last hundred milliseconds or so of audio is replayed when i adjust the volume (2) there is no easy to find shortcut to qpaeq in the "start"(?) menu, i'm sure i will forget the command qpaeq! all help with this issues (and relevant witty banter)
[12:04] <Meliorator> would be appreciated, thanks =D
[12:05] <arup_r> Inferno_geek: My app is trying to install it as a gem and met this error https://github.com/socketry/nio4r/issues/159 .. tried some internet hints, still same error. Any idea what tools I need to install to make the compiler happy
[12:06] <arup_r> if I install the package, then do you think the gem installation will go good.. I am not sure though/
[12:06] <garFF> this might seem like a lame question but I'm having trouble finding the shortcut for "search your computer" ?
[12:07] <arup_r> i use `locate` command
[12:08] <Meliorator> garFF, not sure about a GUI, but 'find' can help, or maybe you want 'locate'
[12:08] <garFF> oh, okay.. thanks!
[12:10] <EriC^^> garFF: the filemanager usually has the gui search
[12:19] <garFF> alt + f1 actually did the trick :p
[12:19] <garFF> + enter
[12:23] <thewillo> is there a way to use cp to merge files instead of overwriting directories with files in them, or do i need rsync for that?
[12:24] <thewillo> like, overwriting file conflicts doesn't matter but overwriting directories with new ones will screw things up
[12:24] <PCatinean> Hey guys, if I want to pass the current date as a string when passing a value via parameter, how should I go about it?
[12:24] <PCatinean> as in ./script -arg bla + (date as string)
[12:26] <Meliorator> PCatinean: the 'date' command can do that
[12:27] <PCatinean> Meliorator, yes but how do I pass it as an argument to a script?
[12:27] <Meliorator> use the -d option and it should parse most date formats
[12:28] <PCatinean> like docker run smth -e bla/bla/date-here
[12:28] <Meliorator> are you using bash?
[12:28] <Meliorator> or do you need a portable solution?
[12:28] <PCatinean> Meliorator, no not bash, on the actual command line
[12:29] <Meliorator> *sigh*
[12:29] <Meliorator> bash *is* a command line
[12:29] <PCatinean> docker run --rm -ti -e CONPLICITY_TARGET_URL=s3://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/folder/date "+%d-%m-%Y" <-
[12:29] <PCatinean> I thought you meant bash scripting
[12:29] <Meliorator> yes
[12:29] <Meliorator> bash is a shell
[12:30] <Meliorator> it's usually the default login shell on most systems these days
[12:30] <PCatinean> I'm not doing a bash script I'm just trying to run docker in bash with the above argument and want to insert date at the end
[12:31] <Meliorator> take the time to learn what bash is. in the meantime, this will probably do what you want: date -d ${path##*/} "+FORMAT_HERE"
[12:31] <Meliorator> where path is a variable with the value of the path you are parsing
[12:31] <Meliorator> you should probably discuss this further on #bash
[12:32] <Meliorator> hmm and you should add quotes around ${path##*/} :p
[12:32] <Meliorator> IE: "${path##*/}"
[12:33] <PCatinean> hmm
[12:34] <Meliorator> tbh, i'm not really sure what you want it to do, i guesses you were parsing a path and replacing the date in it?
[12:35] <PCatinean> wouldn't -d pe interpreted as a command line argument for the script I am running?
[12:36] <Meliorator> then i do not know what you are trying to do. please provide example command, with input values and what you expect as a result
[12:39] <PCatinean> ok nvm, thank you for your help
[12:46] <leftyfb> PCatinean: docker run --rm -ti -e CONPLICITY_TARGET_URL=s3://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/folder/$(date "+%d-%m-%Y")
[12:47] <PCatinean> leftyfb, super! thank you very much
[12:47] <PCatinean> would have also worked with ` ` ?
[12:48] <leftyfb> should
[12:48] <leftyfb> or set timestamp=$(date "+%d-%m-%Y")  elsewhere in your script and put /folder/$timestamp
[12:49] <leftyfb> also
[12:49] <leftyfb> take a look at date +%F
[12:50] <faraco> hi guys,  do you ever experienced 'time has been changed' lool and stuck at loading screen?
[12:51] <faraco> loop and stuck at ubuntu loading screen?
[12:56] <_pronet_> Hello guys. Ive recently managed to share files between my windows 10 and this linux Distro via Samba share and Gigolo. But today as i try access the files, the password doesnt accept, while it did before. Anybody please assist. Am using Backbox  v3.13 and the two platforms are connected via a network switch. ( D-LINK )
[12:56] <faraco> how to fix time has been changed issue? Running live usb also make it seems stuck at boot screen
[13:05] <_pronet_> Anybody..
[13:22] <vbotka> _pronet_, FWIW, you might want to reset the user password https://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/manpages-3/smbpasswd.8.html
[13:23] <PinkiePie> hey faraco are you dual-booting with Windows?
[13:23] <_pronet_> Okay. lemmi work on it. @vbotka
[13:24] <PinkiePie> faraco: If so, this answer explains pretty well https://askubuntu.com/a/169384/62969
[13:25] <vbotka> _pronet_, probably you know, but to be sure, SWAT makes your live easier https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Swat
[13:27] <_pronet_> Ive heard of it, but never actually tried it. @vbotka
[13:29] <faraco> PinkiePie: hi,  thanks for answering. Unfortunately I didn't dual booting nor running my distro in a VM. I ran it natively. This problem occurs after installing mono programs and libs and shutting down.
[13:30] <faraco> not sure if userspace program will impact systemd,  but not sure if mono being product of microsoft correlates the windows time issue.
[13:31] <faraco> I mean,  mono inspired by microsoft product..
[13:33] <faraco> now had to bootup into my pc through upstart kernel everytime on grub menu...
[13:34] <PinkiePie> No idea then sorry :(
[13:35] <faraco> nah its okay. I still can do most stuff from the different kernel. Maybe I need to do upgrades. thanks
[13:39] <jmg8766> so when I run bt-audio -c xx:xx:xx:xx:xx on this striped down version of ubuntu 14.04 it will make my bluetooth speaker beap, but then I get the message org.bluez.Error.Failed: Connect Failed, anyone know where I can find more information about why it failed?
[13:40] <_pronet_> vbotka: Thanks it worked perfectly.
[13:40] <vbotka> _pronet_, Great. You're welcome.
[13:52] <v99> hi!
[13:57] <necrophcodr> Hi everyone
[13:57] <necrophcodr> is there a way to force a system to boot with the root fs option "data=journal" set in the kernel cmdline?
[13:57] <necrophcodr> That is, NOT in fstab?
[14:04] <v99> im trying to make a local repo with dpkg-scanpackages but is imposible in 16.04
[14:04] <v99> can anyone helps me?
[14:05] <v99> sudo dpkg-scanpackages /var/my-local-repo /dev/null > /var/my-local-repo/Packages
[14:05] <v99> echo "deb file:/var/my-local-repo ./" > /tmp/my-local.list
[14:05] <v99> sudo mv /tmp/my-local.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/my-local.list
[14:05] <v99> sudo apt-get update
[14:06] <madsj> necrophcodr: https://askubuntu.com/questions/19486/how-do-i-add-a-kernel-boot-parameter ?
[14:08] <PinkiePie> necrophcodr: Try something like this (adapt for yours obviously)
[14:08] <PinkiePie> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18 ro root=/dev/sda3 rootflags=data=journal other_options
[14:09] <necrophcodr> madsj, thanks for the link!
[14:09] <necrophcodr> PinkiePie, Thanks for the tip, I'll give it a shot
[14:09] <anddam> hello
[14:10] <anddam> installing 'apt-get source linux-source' on xenial I get   "E: Unable to find a source package for linux-meta"
[14:10] <anddam> what's the proper way to just install current kernel sources?
[14:10] <nacc> anddam: linux-source is a binary package
[14:10] <nacc> anddam: so just apt-get install linux-source
[14:11] <altefour> Hi everybody. I installed Xubuntu and then Gnome. Is there any harm in leaving Xubuntu as my base or would it be better to install Gnome over Ubuntu? Hope that makes sense.
[14:11] <anddam> mm with that I get 4.4.0 while I se I'm running 4.8.0.something
[14:11] <anddam> see*
[14:12] <anddam> nacc: also wiki references like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/SourceCode (and other) suggest using 'source'
[14:12] <anddam> are those somehow outdated?
[14:12] <necrophcodr> PinkiePie, thanks, it worked!
[14:13] <nacc> anddam: well, they use source with a differnet package name
[14:13] <nacc> anddam: so don't just make up the package name, but use the one they tell you to
[14:13] <nacc> anddam: i'm not sure how to get the hwe kernel source
[14:13] <v99> anyone can helps me?
[14:16] <glitsj16> altefour: so you have 2 separate installs? If so, that won't be a problem. You could opt to install only one, get the desktop packages you like and login to different sessions for those. All up to you really.
[14:17] <rodney77> Hi all, in the last few days my CPU Load averages have gotten really high. I uninstalled every package that I manually installed in the last week, went back to an old kernel, but I still have high cpu load averages
[14:17] <rodney77> has anyone else been haivng this problem?
[14:17] <rodney77> i'm wondering if some package was updated that caused the problem
[14:17] <altefour> glitsj16: Yeah, I installed Xubuntu which is XFCE and all the packages that come with it. Then I installed Gnome and have all its goodies as well.
[14:18] <glitsj16> rodney77: use a tool like htop to determine what's pegging your CPU
[14:18] <rodney77> thanks glitsj16, I did do that. The thing is, actual CPU use is apparently low
[14:18] <altefour> glitsj16: So long as there's no harm in having both, I may as well keep them. I prefer Gnome and won't be going back to XFCE anytime soon though.
[14:19] <rodney77> but load average is high
[14:19] <glitsj16> altefour: well, you can rearrange your setup whenever you feel like it, i dual-boot between linux distro's to, like it very much
[14:20] <glitsj16> rodney77: have you tried iotop yet? difficult to tell without specific info
[14:21] <rodney77> ok glitsj16, I just installed iotop
[14:22] <rodney77> i will see if anything looks suspicious
[14:22] <glitsj16> rodney77: yes, let it collect data for a while
[14:30] <rodney77> ok glitsj16, what should I be looking for? total and actual disk read and write are almost always 0.00b/s
[14:30] <rodney77> every process is showing IO 0.00% except the top one
[14:31] <rodney77> which is usually xorg and it's usually less than 2:00% IO
[14:31] <glitsj16> rodney77: if there's little or no i/o activity now that's just fine
[14:31] <rodney77> ok glitsj16 thanks. I have had this problem a couple times before with this computer
[14:32] <rodney77> all of a sudden i get high cpu loads, and then one day it's fine again
[14:32] <glitsj16> rodney77: that's always the hard part i suppose, waiting for the problem to re-appear when monitoring
[14:32] <rodney77> yeah
[14:32] <rodney77> i mean my load average is high now
[14:32] <rodney77> so i can see that problem
[14:32] <glitsj16> do you trim SSD's? that can cause some lagging
[14:33] <glitsj16> or cron jobs, systemd timers etc, things that are run repetetively
[14:34] <rodney77> glitsj16, I don
[14:34] <rodney77> i don't know what it means to trim SSDs
[14:34] <rodney77> i do have an SSD
[14:35] <rodney77> other problems I'm having: very slow wi-fi, only on this computer; SD card reader isn't working properly
[14:37] <rodney77> this is exectly what happened before
[14:37] <rodney77> but before when
[14:37] <glitsj16> rodney77: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trim_(computing)
[14:37] <rodney77> I went back to an old kernel it fixed the proble
[14:37] <rodney77> m
[14:37] <rodney77> but not this time
[14:37] <glitsj16> rodney77: that doesn't sound all to hope-giving.. is this a newly installed ubuntu or did you jump via apt?
[14:37] <anddam> nacc: I didn't make it up, I found both reference to linux-source
[14:37] <anddam> and to the linux-source-$(uname -r) version
[14:38] <rodney77> glitsj16, it's not newly installed
[14:38] <ioria> anddam, apt-get source linux-image-x.xx.x-xx-generic   (in a new dir)
[14:38] <glitsj16> rodney77: to check if trim is the root cause (which seems unlikely in relation to the other things you mention), you can start that manually. are you on 16.04?
[14:38] <rodney77> i am on 16.04
[14:39] <rodney77> glitsj16, do you know where i can see package update history?
[14:39] <scorch> hi guys, python 3.x from source with altinstall, heard it's recommended NOT to use /usr/local as --prefix; what's the recommended prefix for multi-version installations?
[14:39] <glitsj16> rodney77: /var/log/history.log
[14:39] <anddam> ioria: thanks
[14:40] <S1GM4> I think I disabled Unity and everything and make my machine only to boot into CLI on startup
[14:40] <ioria> anddam, np
[14:40] <S1GM4> but now I need to make sure a certain specific user is logged in on boot :/
[14:40] <S1GM4> and now I'm having trouble SSH into the box, lol, brb
[14:40] <Melissa_McC> Hey guys - I have a nouveau init failure that's stopping be from booting (17.04)
[14:41] <ioria> S1GM4, you can enable a sort of console-autologin, i tried once, it works but ... had some issues later
[14:41] <jetsaredim> why does dnsmasq or whatever sets up the resolv.conf file use <IP_ADDRESS> when lo interface is <IP_ADDRESS>??
[14:42] <ChogyDan> jetsaredim, what's the difference?
[14:42] <glitsj16> rodney77: to test SSD trim, run 'sudo fstrim -v /' and keep monitoring via htop/iotop, can take a while depending on the size of your SSD
[14:42] <anddam> ioria: E: Unable to find a source package for linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>-generic
[14:42] <Melissa_McC> Can someone help me get into the system - to be able to reinstall the graphics drivers?
[14:42] <jetsaredim> ChogyDan: i cannot get stuff like nslookup to work because my system can't find the dns server
[14:42] <jetsaredim> resolv.conf has nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> listed but what is that supposed to map to?
[14:43] <ioria> anddam, you probably need the yakkety source in sources.list
[14:44] <anddam> but I'm on xenial
[14:44] <anddam> altho' I'm using elementary so maybe I have something in sources.list.d
[14:44] <ioria> anddam, that's not the problem
[14:45] <ChogyDan> Melissa_McC, how far can you boot?
[14:45] <bugs_bugger> hi. can somebody help me with X forwarding on ssh (Ubuntu/Linux Mint)? my session (very annoingly) keeps freezing every 10 Minutes or so. i already tried setting keep alive settings for both server and client to no avail. i have no root on client, so local ssh config only
[14:45] <jetsaredim> ChogyDan: things work in my browser but for some reason i cannot get terminal apps to resolve stuff
[14:45] <rodney77> thanks glitsj16, it said 4.4mb trimmed
[14:45] <rodney77> sorry 4.4gb
[14:46] <scorch> bugs_bugger: are you actively using the session or is it idle? nothing "moving"?
[14:46] <anddam> ioria: why do I need yakkety source then?
[14:46] <bugs_bugger> scorch: i run some applications with ui in the session. so it is not strictly idle
[14:47] <scorch> bugs_bugger: did you enable trusted forwarding?
[14:47] <bugs_bugger> scorch: dont know
[14:47] <scorch> either through the ssh config or (I think) as a command line argument
[14:47] <S1GM4> I have error
[14:47] <bugs_bugger> scorch: let me check...
[14:47] <glitsj16> rodney77: if you didn't change it, your 16.04 should have a cron job for SSD trimming in /etc/cron.weekly.. if you disabled that, you can specify it in /etc/fstab too, just make sure you have one of both options, otherwise your SSD will show degraded performance
[14:48] <S1GM4> sudo systemctl set-default multi-user.target   <--- I run this command, now my laptop starts up only black screen (I wish it had CLI), but the problem now also is that if I close the lid on the device, it turn off
[14:48] <S1GM4> :(
[14:48] <S1GM4> do not want.
[14:48] <scorch> bugs_bugger: if you have a host config in your ~/.ssh/config you should be able to ass "ForwardX11Trusted yes" for that host, or using I think -Y in the ssh command
[14:48] <jetsaredim> ChogyDan: I even put google's dns servers explicitly in my ipv4 connection setup
[14:49] <scorch> bugs_bugger: though I'm not sure if that's specific for ubuntu or not, defaulting to "untrusted" forwarding which closes after a while
[14:49] <scorch> bugs_bugger: "able to add*" ......
[14:49] <Melissa_McC> ChogyDan  OK - it may be worse than I first thought...I'm throwing my assumptions out...(I've had driver problems related to my Nvidia Geforce 970 card for ages...but this may be worse..)
[14:49] <bugs_bugger> scorch: that sounds good. didnt know about that setting. you think it might be the issue? i set TCPKeepAlive on the client side and the alive interval to 60s on the server side and still it freezes
[14:50] <ChogyDan> jetsaredim, I don't know much.  I thought resolv.conf was used by auto-setup programs.  So that would override ifconfig settings
[14:51] <scorch> bugs_bugger: it's some setting with x forwarding about security to not trust anything too much unless explicitly told to; since forwardning as a privileged user and forgetting to terminate on a public computer can be quite bad
[14:51] <scorch> bugs_bugger: just my two cents, don't know the real reason for it
[14:51] <bugs_bugger> scorch: yeah, that makes sense
[14:51] <ioria> anddam, ok, add the yakkety source in sources.list and 'apt source linux'
[14:51] <bugs_bugger> scorch: anyway, ill try it. thank you
[14:52] <scorch> bugs_bugger: np, good luck
[14:52] <Melissa_McC> I need Sherlock Holmes.  Here's my situation:  Been using 17.04 for a few months now...updated and shut down last Tuesday - then when tried to reboot Sat - It wouldn't boot.  Monitor plugged into Nvidia card hangs at black..second monitor plugged into MB output shows nouveau init failed -110
[14:53] <Melissa_McC> I'm not sure exactly what that means...but I even tried booting from stick - and still get that same error (!)... ...any thoughts?
[14:53] <scorch> Melissa_McC: if you don't mind proprietary software: boot a licecd, remove nouveau and install the nvidia driver
[14:55] <Melissa_McC> scorch What's licecd?
[14:55] <scorch> Melissa_McC: sorry, livecd*
[14:56] <anddam> ioria: is there a bot with factoids?
[14:56] <scorch> worst internet possible: wifi through cement walls in an apartment in shanghai, vpn to ofifice to better speeds to vps outside of china (europe) lol, causes high latency when writing
[14:56] <Melissa_McC> scorch  Ah - so I'm pretty sure thats the same as the thumbdrive I actually just used.... I tried livecd option (same error)..and then I even tried to reinstall ubuntu - same error
[14:56] <scorch> Melissa_McC: yeah thumbdrive would do the same
[14:57] <ioria> anddam, don't think so, but you'll get (in this way) the current (59) not 58
[14:57] <Melissa_McC> scorch ...ok - so I got the same error somehow.... Obviously my biggest fear is hw failure somewhere.... could be my thumbdrive is corrput?!
[14:57] <anddam> ioria: I'd rather not go with yakkety, adding it to sources and updating suggests upgrading 1100 packages
[14:57] <scorch> Melissa_McC: boot the thum drive, mount your root partition and chroot to it, then follow a guide to install the nvidia driver (unless you tried this before, I joined recently, maybe you already talked about that)
[14:57] <ioria> anddam, you don't get me
[14:58] <anddam> ioria: I figure I don't
[14:58] <Melissa_McC> scorch Thumb drive won't boot.  I get the same nouveau init failure -110 error
[14:58] <anddam> ioria: yet I tried to do what you said
[14:58] <ioria> anddam, you just add the deb-src  yakkety repo
[14:58] <scorch> Melissa_McC: you mean you fear the gpu might already had a hw failure?
[14:58] <ioria> anddam, you don't install anything
[14:58] <anddam> ioria: oh that wasn't clear
[14:58] <scorch> Melissa_McC: you can boot without X I think; boot into a console
[14:59] <scorch> shell*
[14:59] <Melissa_McC> scorch  I'm not smart enough to know where the failure is... but I do know that if its hw...no amount of chatting here will help :/
[14:59] <ioria> anddam,  (comment the xenial src, before) : deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ yakkety main universe restricted multiverse , for example
[15:00] <Melissa_McC> scorch quick instructions on booting into shell?
[15:00] <ioria> anddam,  the same for xenial-security and xenial-updates
[15:00] <anddam> ioria: I switched to bash and now it fetched    apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)
[15:00] <ioria> sy
[15:00] <anddam> ioria: I'm quite surprised
[15:01] <ioria> anddam,  that's good, and what version it is ?
[15:01] <anddam> linux-hwe_4.8.0-58.63~16.04.1.
[15:01] <ioria> anddam, ok
[15:02] <scorch> Melissa_McC: you should have an option when booting to choose what you want to do (graphical interface or only a shell)
[15:02] <scorch> Melissa_McC: it'll probably look like the grub boot screen
[15:04] <BetaSoul> Hey guys, is there a way to set up the defualt vnc to log into a new x session instead of sharing the current one"
[15:04] <S1GM4>  sudo restart systemd-logind
[15:04] <S1GM4> I get error when I run this command
[15:04] <S1GM4> Why?
[15:05] <S1GM4> (Unable to connect to upstart, connection refuse)
[15:06] <BetaSoul> try a stop first.
[15:06] <PinkiePie> try sudo systemctl restart systemd-logind.service
[15:06] <BetaSoul> My next suggestion Pinkie.
[15:06] <S1GM4> That worked :)
[15:06] <S1GM4> I did PinkiePie suggestion first
[15:06] <PinkiePie> your smile makes me happy.
[15:07] <BetaSoul> Nice.
[15:07] <S1GM4> Okay, I fixed my problem of the system lid closing turning the device off
[15:08] <BetaSoul> So, VNC into a new session. Ideas?
[15:08] <S1GM4> sudo systemctl set-default multi-user.target   <--- I tried to run this before to force boot into CLI and not GUI, but it only made start to blank screen instead :( so GUI it is.
[15:08] <S1GM4> I don't use the GUI, only control the machine via SSH, so GUI is superfluous
[15:09] <PinkiePie> S1GM4: look into removing the GUI packages: https://askubuntu.com/a/534476/62969
[15:10] <BetaSoul> Man my googlefu is failing me today.
[15:10] <S1GM4> I am on Xenial, Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS; the link you post, PinkiePie, is for older system I think.
[15:10] <systest> Anyone know what the default user/pass iis for the xenial virtualbox images at https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/
[15:13] <PinkiePie> S1GM4: I considered that, the packages are the same afaik
[15:14] <S1GM4> Another person with Xenial commented they had an unusuable system after following similar directions, but I think I found another guide
[15:19] <S1GM4> yay I finall got to work
[15:19] <S1GM4> I free up a ton of RAM and everything from disable GUI at boot :)
[15:19] <Diplomat> Hey guys, I have a strange issue.. I'm trying to execute a Python script where I updated my database info, but somehow it's still executing old version of the file. I asked from #python too, but so far nobody has any idea. when I do: head -n 10 generate_caches.py ; python generate_caches.py I get this: https://paste.ofcode.org/KB2qbZjPkGJYJS9T3aQcrr
[15:19] <Diplomat> Looks like this file is cached somewhere or something.. any ideas ?
[15:20] <sary> Melissa_McC: Hiya, what happens if you unplug the second monitor and boot to ubuntu with maine display!
[15:22]  * aotaoint1in used to have a maine display. 207!
[15:27] <BetaSoul> So guys, best way to get a remote session?
[15:27] <glitsj16> Diplomat: why is the traceback refering to python in /usr/local/lib instead of the default /usr/lib?
[15:28] <Diplomat> No idea, probably because it was set up by the VM provider like that
[15:29] <glitsj16> Diplomat: did you check you don't have mysql files under /usr/lib/python2.7?
[15:30] <glitsj16> Diplomat: just throwing out questions, I'm not a python expert
[15:30] <Diplomat> glitsj16: mysql works perfectly, ignore that part.. look at the paste, for some reason it uses old credentials not new ones which makes absolutely no sense :/
[15:31] <glitsj16> Diplomat: I noticed that, was going to be my next question
[15:32] <glitsj16> Diplomat: so the paste, that's from generate_caches.py?
[15:32] <Diplomat> fml, somehow there was a hidden file that I was editing and opening.. but it wasnt applied to the correct file
[15:32] <Diplomat> got it working now
[15:32] <glitsj16> nice, one less thing
[15:34] <Diplomat> I think my IDE created it or something :/, but yeah, it's working now, thanks for the help
[15:36] <glitsj16> that's one of the forst things I disable, auto-save functionality creates a messy filesystem, but that's personal preference, no trouble
[15:36] <sary> Melissa_McC: i meant with the main primary monitor only attached. Also, check which nvidia driver is currently installed #see $ dpkg -l | grep -i "NVIDIA binary driver , if you have one nvidia driver .. you might need to unload 'nouveau' and or blacklist it.
[15:36] <glitsj16> s/forst/first
[15:36] <aotaoint1in> /
[15:47] <vimart> Hi
[16:02] <Trioxin> F2FS is orders of magnitude faster than EXT4 and it's still not in the installer? Get your shit together Ubuntu.
[16:03] <leftyfb> Trioxin: please watch the language
[16:04] <leftyfb> Trioxin: I can't attest to the installer at the moment, but f2ds support is in the linux kernel in ubuntu as well as tools and libraries
[16:06] <Trioxin> it's a big pain to do and that's without encryption. suse has implemented it. it's what's stopping me from installing KDE Neon at the moment on my m2 drive
[16:07] <tgm4883> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1261175
[16:09] <genii> !info f2fs-tools
[16:10] <Trioxin> i know about the package
[16:10] <genii> Just enable universe and install f2fs-tools before running the partitioner
[16:10] <Trioxin> i tried that
[16:12] <genii> Are you actually installking it on flash ram/ssd or a regular hd?
[16:12] <Trioxin> nvme
[16:13] <Trioxin> nand
[16:13] <Trioxin> why would I care about having f2fs for a hdd?
[16:15] <Trioxin> if not in installer you have to make a f2fs partition, install to ext4, then move install to f2fs. I would do that except I also need luks and really don't want to go messing with crypsetup
[16:15] <ic_bytes> hi in here.
[16:15] <Trioxin> also, I've seen talk of bugs doing the roundabout way
[16:17] <ic_bytes> what is the proper way to flag all my gnome3 stuff as "not pull it back in again".... ? Because I replaced my gnome3 with mate... and on the next upgrade/update I want to keep that mate stuff ....
[16:18] <tgm4883> ic_bytes: uninstalling the packages would do it
[16:19] <tgm4883> ic_bytes: you'd want to be careful doing that though since mate uses some gnome stuff
[16:19] <ic_bytes> really ? Are they not flagged somewhere in the system ?
[16:19] <ic_bytes> some time ago I read about "keep" and such keywords, in a special file...
[16:20] <tgm4883> ic_bytes: I'm not really sure what you mean by flagged. You said "not pull it back in again". If you already uninstalled it, it's not going to reinstall
[16:20] <ic_bytes> ok, how can I verify, what to uninstall and what to keep for mate being able to run properly ?
[16:24] <ic_bytes> anyone in here using aptitude ?
[16:24] <tgm4883> ic_bytes: it's a bit of work, but if you use 'apt-rdepends ubuntu-mate-desktop' then you'll get a list of all the packages that ubuntu-mate-desktop needs, so the inverse of that is what you can remove. Unless you also want to keep other stuff you installed, in which case you'll need to do it for those too
[16:25] <ic_bytes> thx
[16:25] <ic_bytes> will try that
[16:27] <ic_bytes> i want to select single packages of the aptitude listings, is that possible at all ?
[16:33] <Trioxin> is this tutorial suggesting that in the end I wind up with a useless ext4 partition? https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2326934
[16:34] <Trioxin> would I be able to reclaim that space to f2fs?
[16:35] <Trioxin> i'll go through all the extra crap if I have to. I REALLY want to use a cutting edge KDE on Ubuntu LTS but I really want f2fs.
[16:35] <Trioxin> otherwise I'll have to roll suse
[16:35] <Trioxin> and miss out on Neon's kde
[16:38] <Melissa_McC> OK - So to solve my driver problem I was having earlier - I finally just took out the nvidia graphics card...and got my system to boot into liveCD :)   Is there a way to run a "repair" of the system?
[16:38] <Trioxin> why can't I avoid this 1mb gap in partitions? http://storage4.static.itmages.com/i/17/0717/h_1500309508_4292074_f296b5a82b.png
[16:42] <papertigers> anyone know how to properly link against libcurl in 16.04
[16:43] <papertigers> curl-config --libs says to use "-L/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu -lcurl"  but the linker still cant find the symbols
[16:43] <Melissa_McC> ...If I "install" from Live CD - will the system know to "upgrade and repair" - or will  it wipe everything?!
[16:46] <Soul_Sample> Melissa_McC: what's broken?
[16:47] <Melissa_McC> Soul_Sample So I've been fighting with my Nvidia card for ages now - it needed proprietary drivers and every update broke something... the last one gave me a fatal nouveau init failure so bad I couldn't boot...so I took out the card altogether...
[16:49] <Melissa_McC> Soul_Sample After doing that I have finally been able to boot a livecd... :)   But it wasn't booting normally...so I want to "repair" it... (I know - I'm clueless)
[16:50] <Soul_Sample> Melissa_McC: well you can probably boot the live CD and then use chroot to fix your installation without reinstalling
[16:50] <Soul_Sample> Melissa_McC: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery
[16:51] <Soul_Sample> but if you separated home and root on installation, maybe it would be easiest to just overwrite the / partition, leaving your home and data intact
[16:53] <Melissa_McC> Soul_Sample I think that sounds vaguely familiar (someone else helped me with my first install 14.04... and I've just been upgrading ever since...
[16:53] <Melissa_McC> Soul_sample  So if I were to do that...how do I do it?
[16:54] <Melissa_McC> Soul_Sample and the Terminal is asking for a login and pass (on livecd)
[16:56] <Soul_Sample> Melissa_McC: it shouldn't. I just booted a livecd in virtualbox and it's not asking for anything. which version do you have?
[16:57] <Melissa_McC> Soul_sample 17.04  (but I googled and found user: ubuntu and pass: blank - that worked)
[16:57] <Soul_Sample> is that the same version you are trying to fix?
[17:09] <Melissa_McC> Hey guys - I'm having trouble accessing my netowrk after chroot - can someone pls help walk me through how to : " adding OpenDNS name servers to your /etc/resolv.conf" - as per info I found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery
[17:23] <Melissa_McC> Hey guys - I'm having trouble accessing my netowrk after chroot - can someone pls help walk me through how to : " adding OpenDNS name servers to your /etc/resolv.conf" - as per info I found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery
[17:33] <sary> Melissa_McC: well,  outside the Chroot , edit etc/resolv.conf , and add the opendns servers , and after that you'll need to mount the /proc filesystem in the chroot (required for managing processes).
[17:34] <sary> Melissa_McC: Now, outside the Chroot , Type the following to allow DNS resolution from within the chroot $ sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf /var/chroot/etc/resolv.conf
[17:34] <sary> I don't know why you're in a chroot environment in the first place!
[17:37] <sary> I see, just scrolled up , whoever the fruck pointed you to a chroot, shoud've wlalked you through it!
[17:37] <jmg8766> so when I run bt-audio -c xx:xx:xx:xx:xx on this striped down version of ubuntu 14.04 it will make my bluetooth speaker beap, but then I get the message org.bluez.Error.Failed: Connect Failed, anyone know where I can find more information about why it failed?
[17:38] <Melissa_McC> sary OK - it says no such file... I'm looking now and theres a resolvconf and a resolv.conf.auto
[17:38] <Melissa_McC> sary Do I need to edit one of those...or create a new resolv.conf ?
[17:39] <sary> Melissa_McC: are these files in or outside the chroot!
[17:39] <Melissa_McC> sary Inside...
[17:41] <sary> Melissa_McC: inside the chroot there should be only one in var/chroot/etc/resolv.conf
[17:43] <Melissa_McC> sary - I think I may have created the .auto verison (following instructions I found on https://support.opendns.com/hc/en-us/articles/228007087-Ubuntu)
[17:45] <Melissa_McC> sary ok I fixed the filename...now it says I don't have write permission
[17:57] <sary> Melissa_McC: you're editing the file outside the chroot right! and you're sudo'in nano /etc/resolv.conf
[17:57] <sary> or which ever text editor..
[17:59] <Hitechcg> In Ubuntu 16.04.2's menu, "Suspend" and "Hibernate" seem to be missing. Pressing the power button then clicking on one of the actions that appear works fine, as do pm-suspend and pm-hibernate in a terminal. What would cause this and how do I fix it? Something in dconf I guess?
[17:59] <sary> Melissa_McC: or are you outside chroot as root!
[18:02] <zenguy-> hmm interesting
[18:17] <m4dh4tt4> was it there in windows Hitcechcg?
[18:17] <m4dh4tt4> bios power settings , ahci, or acpi or something S3 and or S5 toggle to on,
[18:17] <m4dh4tt4> thats if it has nothing to do with winblows
[18:18] <m4dh4tt4> if worked in windows and doesnt in linux say the word
[18:21] <DanteEdward> libretro ps2 core when
[18:23] <Sleaker> DanteEdward: that's probably a question you should ask libretro, or PCSX2
[18:24] <DanteEdward> Oh
[18:24] <DanteEdward> I clicked the wrong channel :v
[18:24] <Sleaker> mainly the pcsx2 team though
[18:34] <scythefwd> quick cli question.. hope its simple.. is there a way to find all processes running under a certain name, like pidgin, and kill them all at once vs. one at a time?
[18:35] <akik> scythefwd: you can use pkill to kill processes by name
[18:35] <scythefwd> well sure, if you wnat to go the obvious route.. thanks.. I was over here doing kill -9 pid..
[18:37] <ducasse> scythefwd: you can also use killall
[18:37] <scythefwd> anybenefit vs. pkill?
[18:40] <scythefwd> reading through man file on kill all, it mentions impure executables.. excluding the windows progs running under wine joke thats obvious... I have no clue what an impure executable is.. anyone care to enlighten me?
[18:53] <ZetFury> I have a Intel NUC with Ubuntu 17.04 connected to my TV, it goes black randomly for a few seconds a couple minutes after start, then back to normal, it only appear to happen once every start. Did not have this problem with windows on the same NUC, any idea what could cause it?
[19:04] <m4dh4tt4> Suggestion for ubuntu -> "Brightness and lock" -> brightness . Suggested change: Warn or disable on 0. Hasnt happened to me yet but if ever i accidentally let go of the slider whilst adjusting it could be easily avoided.
[19:06] <ducasse> m4dh4tt4: iirc you can file wishlist bugs on launcpad
[19:07] <SuperSeriousCat> ZetFury, sure its not just part of the boot?
[19:08] <m4dh4tt4> Compliment for all those who work so hard to bring us ubuntu: This one day(probably familiar to a lot of people here) I broke up with windows. She wasnt thin enough anymore. I switched my entire life to linux and tried many distros, although it initially resolved a lot of things for me, my desktop experience still left me frustrated/powerless and confused. After 3 months of struggling with other distros, i loaded Ubuntu 16.04 and for the first time
[19:08] <m4dh4tt4> since the switch I felt complete again. So ty to all , for bringing elegance to the linux user interface and to not making things so damn hard.
[19:09] <m4dh4tt4> i mean hey everything has its battles, but like 4/4 of the ones that drove me insane were resolved by default here
[19:10] <Victor83> Hi guys! I have tried to install Realtek drivers and after that alsa doesn't see sound card I've tried many solutions but they not help me may be somebody help me?
[19:10] <m4dh4tt4> well ducasse do you recommend it ? if it helps community ill file it, if you guys are swamped id be ok without it
[19:11] <m4dh4tt4> what card victor83
[19:11] <m4dh4tt4> and what version of ubuntu
[19:12] <ducasse> m4dh4tt4: everybody here are volunteers, if you want to reach the developers, use launcpad. they will take a look at your suggestion, and decide if it is worth implementing.
[19:13] <Victor83> m4dh4tt4: How can I check which card ? I just remember that is is HD audio
[19:14] <ducasse> Victor83: which drivers did you install - where did you get them?
[19:15] <Victor83> I get them from realtek website
[19:15] <ducasse> Victor83: wireless or audio drivers?
[19:16] <Victor83> And I have installed Ubuntu 16.04 audio
[19:16] <Victor83> audio drivers
[19:16] <ducasse> for which chipset?
[19:18] <Victor83> I use this page for downloading but as I found out later that drivers not supported by my kernel  http://www.realtek.com/downloads/downloadsCheck.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=24&PFid=24&Level=4&Conn=3&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false
[19:18] <ducasse> Victor83: no, you should very rarely need to download drivers for linux, most often they are included in the kernel
[19:19] <sary> any reason you had to install the driver from realtek! the system should detect you sound card out of the box. #see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[19:21] <Victor83> Here is what I have https://snag.gy/JriSlN.jpg
[19:22] <Victor83> sary: I try to fix my microphone, he was very weak when I record
[19:25] <Victor83> sary: Thank for the links,  I'll try that instructions.
[19:26] <sary> Victor83: that's understandbale .. so you had sound before. to confiugre and adjust the sounds i suggest you use alsamixer and pavucontrol.
[19:28] <sary> Victor83: yw , i think in your case you should try with with step 3 in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure , and then troubleshoot.
[19:28] <Victor83> I have installed them before. But I have removed pavucontrol because he does not started.
[19:29] <Victor83> I go to reboot now.
[19:29] <sary> ok.
[19:38] <IhrFussel> This happened TWICE while downloading files from the internet...on this screen I was about to install Xubuntu on my HDD but it happened again later when I downloaded a Xubuntu iso file with Firefox: https://i.imgur.com/Os1lcujr.jpg
[19:39] <OneM_Industries> So, I'm having a bit of issue with playing DVDs on ubuntu 14.04.
[19:40] <OneM_Industries> The disk I'm currently trying to watch plays fine up until about ~20 minutes from the end, at which point, it simply stops playing altogether.
[19:40] <Victor83> sary: It seem that that troubleshooting not helps me because sound cart not detected/
[19:40] <IhrFussel> I'm not sure if it's just a coincidence that the same issue happened twice DURING downloads and never again since (that was over 24 hours ago)
[19:43] <sary> Victor83: do you have nvidia driver installed.. #see additional drivers section.
[19:44] <Victor83> sary: Yes, I have.
[19:45] <Victor83> https://snag.gy/2dLto0.jpg
[19:47] <Victor83> https://snag.gy/KNZ47C.jpg
[19:47] <Victor83> There is a screenshot which says that I haven't sound card.
[19:48] <Bashing-om> Victor83: " lts-xemial-dkms " . What kernel are you running ? show ' uname -r ' .
[19:49] <sary> Good catch Bashing-om!
[19:49] <TheWild> hello
[19:49] <sary> hiya
[19:50] <TheWild> Just my few words, because I think there's something I don't understand...
[19:50] <sary> IhrFussel: that's weird , which GPU card , and are you connected through ethernet!
[19:50] <TheWild> The original Ubuntu's "Unity" interface.
[19:50] <Victor83> 4.8.0-58-generic
[19:51] <TheWild> Whoever designed this, did that human have any clue about the interface design?
[19:52] <Bashing-om> Victor83: K; should be good then to run the lts-xenial-dkms module . Was a thought only .
[19:52] <TheWild> Application menu for example: I can be displayed on the top. No, not top of the window; the top of the screen!
[19:52] <sary> TheWild: i don't now , i never liked it either and never used it , i prefer Gnome and openbox.
[19:52] <Victor83> Bashing-om: How to do this?
[19:52] <TheWild> Or - at your choice - it can replace a titlebar when you point at it.
[19:53] <Bashing-om> Victor83: Sorry . what you have installed presently is appropriate . ( sound is not in my tool box of experience ) .
[19:53] <TheWild> The second is: What amazon does here?
[19:53] <IhrFussel> sary, it's just the integrated graphics chip from Intel and yes I use ethernet...something I noticed is that back when I had no OS on my PC but ethernet was connected the BIOS said something about "DHCP"
[19:53] <TheWild> and how I can uninstall it?
[19:53] <sary> Bashing-om: yeah Victor83 is kernel base is the default hwe-16.04 , i wounder of he needs a newer kernel for the nvidia sound card to work!
[19:54] <Victor83> Actually, I know that I did something wrong but how to fix it now? :)
[19:55] <Bashing-om> sary: Beats me .. the alsa people have a great script to run to know all there is to know about sound issues .
[19:55] <sary> IhrFussel: interesting .. do you recall where did the BIOS mentioned the DHCP part!
[19:56] <tsarompy> lol
[19:56] <tsarompy> i like Unity
[19:56] <tsarompy> i dont use it but i like it
[19:56] <tsarompy> i would if i had moar ram
[19:56] <tsarompy> kinda hope they fork it
[19:57] <ducasse> Victor83: but your sound card did initially work, right, except for some issue recording?
[19:57] <tsarompy> its a great interface for noobs
[19:57] <Victor83> I'll try to use commands from step 3 on this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[19:57] <IhrFussel> Something important to note is that those 2 issues only happened with Xubuntu 14.04 32-bit ... I upgraded to 16.04 64-bit and it seems to not happen anymore ... sary it said it when it usually loads the HDD
[19:57] <sary> IhrFussel: a quick test is to run $ tail -f /var/log/syslog , and tail -f /var/log/dmesg while connected thought ethernet.
[19:58] <Victor83> ducasse: Yes, it was working
[19:58] <IhrFussel> sary, but how can ethernet cause such a lock up? It was not just the screen the entire PC hung up (not even keyboard worked anymore)
[19:58] <Victor83> Except a little noise on high volume.
[19:59] <sary> IhrFussel: in that case, i would run a fliesystem check on the HDD.
[20:00] <Victor83> I try to reinstall linux-image-extra-4.8.0-58-generic  now.
[20:01] <Meliorator> hi all, apt is giving me a package recommendation, but when i try and install it, i get: E: Package 'padevchooser' has no installation candidate
[20:02] <Victor83> I go to reboot again.
[20:02] <Meliorator> i thought that the package is required to choose pulseaudio devices for specific applications?
[20:10] <Victor83> Oh! My sound is back! :)
[20:10] <glitsj16> Meliorator: you can read what padevchooser does and deoesn't do at http://0pointer.de/lennart/projects/padevchooser/ .. there's only a version for trusty (14.04) in the repos, are you using 14.04?
[20:11] <black_13> after i updated ubuntu the ssh server now refuses connections
[20:11] <Victor83> Thank to all for help!
[20:11] <Bashing-om> Victor83: Do tell .
[20:12] <Victor83> Bashing-om: Sorry, what is it mean? :)
[20:12] <Victor83> Is it any idiom?
[20:13] <sary> he ment tell us what fixed your sound issue..
[20:13] <Bashing-om> Victor83: Did re-installing 4.8.0-58-generic kernel resolve the issue ?
[20:13] <sary> :)
[20:14] <Victor83> http://joxi.ru/LmG7b8bIedzEqm
[20:14] <Victor83> This command helps to me.
[20:15] <Victor83> Actually, it is reinstalling.
[20:15] <sary> Great! :)
[20:15] <Victor83> And I suppose that last of them do my day :)
[20:16] <Bashing-om> Victor83: With a caveat .
[20:16] <Bashing-om> !ppa | Victor83
[20:17] <Victor83> Bashing-om: Yes I know that some of them can damage and even kill OS at all :)
[20:17] <Meliorator> glitsj16: 17.04
[20:17] <Bashing-om> Victor83: :) .. Glad you are aware .
[20:17] <Victor83> But it is a official ubuntu help forum and I believe to him.
[20:18] <Victor83> So, thank again now I can make code with music again :)
[20:19] <black_13> purge and restart
[20:19] <aotaoint1in> shouldn't that be the other way around?
[20:19] <Meliorator> glitsj16: does pasystray superseed it?
[20:19] <aotaoint1in> i mean, i know a bit about algorithmic composition...
[20:20] <glitsj16> Meliorator: in that case you should check your sources, there isn't a version for zesty.. as you might have read, padevchooser integrates some of the other PA tools in a tray icon.. i'm not sure if pasystray offers exactly the same functionality though
[20:21] <Melissa_McC> Hey - I just re-installed 17.04 over a bad system that wouldn't start - I've got my desktop back up...but some things aren't working - i.e. I can't open Terminal in a window...and it looks like a set of apps I previously installed aren't anymore (i.e Chrome, etc...)
[20:21] <Victor83> Actually, this is not solve my issue with weird sound at sound recording but it is another story.
[20:21] <glitsj16> Meliorator: looking at the dependencies for pasystray it looks like it's a case of a name change in the package
[20:22] <Meliorator> i was guessing that, but it is not documented anywhere :\
[20:24] <glitsj16> Meliorator: indeed, i couldn't find anything besides what i linked ^.. but it does have a man page at least .. in any case, i don't think you'll miss much if you decide not to install it
[20:27] <Meliorator> well, installed, it has everything and some \o/
[20:28] <glitsj16> enjoy :)
[20:28] <Meliorator> hmmm, seems i have a battle of the audio-systrays going on, i should probably reboot...
[20:28] <Meliorator> thanks =D
[20:29] <Melissa_McC> I googled "terminal won't launch" and saw some stuff about updating thunderbird...and lists...and locales... tried some of that (ctl-alt-F1) - and it said I didn't have permission, even tho I logged in as admin and sudo'ed the heck out of it
[20:34] <ash_workz> (from `man find`:) Bear in mind that the size is rounded up to the next unit. Therefore -size -1M is not equivalent to -size -1048576c. The former only matches empty files, the latter matches files from 1 to 1,048,575 bytes. -- why would -1M only match empty files?
[20:46] <quarters> hello. I was wondering how I might be able to install consolas font on ubuntu
[20:46] <quarters> using font-manager
[20:46] <glitsj16> Melissa_McC: thunderbird has nothing to do with a terminal emulator.. what command(s) are you trying? without some detailed info we're pretty much in the dark as to what your issue might be.. can you make a pastebin? Ow, after re-installing it's to be expected that packages you added manually will have to be installed again..
[20:47] <quarters> I heard that there's a way to uninstall the spyware that comes installed on ubuntu and was wondering how to do that ( I have xenial)
[20:47] <Melissa_McC> glitsj16  I was trying to follow https://askubuntu.com/questions/613582/terminal-wont-launch-after-upgrading
[20:49] <Melissa_McC> glitsj16  I tried to open the "language support" thru the settings  in the UI...but that refuses to open (pops us quickly then disappears)
[20:50] <glitsj16> Melissa_McC: had a look at that page.. it talks about a custom locale that caused problems, did you do that?
[20:51] <Melissa_McC> glitsj16  I'm not sure how to edit that... is it something like gedit /etc/default/locale.  (?)
[20:51] <glitsj16> Melissa_McC: use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale as a guide, it involves a few steps
[20:52] <glitsj16> Melissa_McC: if anything isn't clear, tell us
[20:53] <glitsj16> Melissa_McC: let's start with what your current setting is, run 'locale' to get that
[20:53] <Melissa_McC> glitsj16  Thx.  OK - I'll have to do it thru ctl-alt-F1...since terminal isn't opening a win...and when I tried "language support" thru the Setting UI - it crashes the window immediately
[20:54] <glitsj16> Melissa_McC: yes i understand, but the commands and info on that page works just as well in a TTY
[20:55] <Melissa_McC> glitsj16  Thx.  OK  ran 'locale' and the first two lines say' LANG=   LANGUAGE=   '  then 'POSIX" is the response for eerything else...
[20:55] <Melissa_McC> glitsj16  That seems like the languae isn't set...right?
[20:56] <glitsj16> Melissa_McC: empty? yup, it looks like it
[20:56] <glitsj16> Melissa_McC: what do you get from 'locale -a'?
[20:58] <Melissa_McC> glitsj16 That produces a loong list of locale options - starting with POSIX ...and the a bunch of others...
[20:58] <glitsj16> if the output is too long, use a pastebin or the bot might kick you out for flooding the channel.. take your time to get a view on what needs to be done
[20:58] <glitsj16> we'll get there :)
[20:58] <Melissa_McC> glitsj16 (let me know if you want me to print them... but things like en_GB_utf8
[21:00] <glitsj16> Melissa_McC: do you have pastebinit installed? if not, this is a good time to install that, a tool to post your info as mentioned in the channel topic
[21:00] <Melissa_McC> glitsj16 whats the cmd to do that?
[21:01] <glitsj16> sudo apt install pastebinit .. if you feel more comfortable using a GUI, there's nothing wrong in doing so
[21:02] <glitsj16> we all had to learn, small steps, although i can understand your eagerness to 'get going' with the newly installed ubuntu :)
[21:02] <glitsj16> !pastebinit
[21:02] <Melissa_McC> glitsj16 response is "The package Thunderbird needs to be reinstalled but I can't find an archive for it"
[21:03] <Melissa_McC> glitsj16 thx for your patience...I'm really good at following instructions...but new to Ubuntu...
[21:04] <glitsj16> Melissa_McC: try 'sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade' .. looks like your package manager (called apt) is rather confused
[21:04] <glitsj16> Melissa_McC: no worries, this is part of the fun :p
[21:05] <Melissa_McC> glitsj16 Same error!   (I googled this earlier and it said something about deleting the lists...and reinstalling them..??)
[21:06] <glitsj16> Melissa_McC: do you have a link to those instructions?
[21:06] <Melissa_McC> glitsj16 I tried the info on this pg (https://askubuntu.com/questions/147178/ethe-package-needs-to-be-reinstalled-but-i-cant-find-an-archive-for-it) - but it wouldn' delete due to permission issies
[21:07] <glitsj16> k, reading
[21:09] <JPelletier> Hello, I enabled earlyprintk=efi and I would like to know if it's normal that it take 3-4 seconds for every single line printed on screen
[21:09] <glitsj16> Melissa_McC: try 'sudo apt install -f' .. that might be enough to get by this hurdle, if not we try plan B
[21:09] <quarters> hello. I was wondering if anyone here runs xming server on windows with the built in ubuntu?
[21:10] <Melissa_McC> glitsj16 nope.  sorry.  same error...
[21:11] <Melissa_McC> glitsj16 (is there a way to copy/paste from ctl-alt-F1 screen...to F7 screen, so I can paste to pastebin.com?)
[21:11] <glitsj16> Melissa_McC: sudo apt install --reinstall thunderbird
[21:13] <Melissa_McC> glitsj16 didn't work again.  "...The package thunderbird needs to be reinstalled, but i can't find an archive for it."
[21:14] <glitsj16> Melissa_McC: sudo apt purge thunderbird (we'll see if we can remove it, fix your sources and locale issue and reinstall thunderbird later)
[21:15] <Bashing-om> !info thunderbird zesty
[21:15] <sary> you might need to : sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf , sudo apt-get update Melissa_McC !
[21:16] <Melissa_McC> glitsj16 didn't work again.  Same error
[21:16] <sary> do you have apt and synaptic running at the same time!
[21:16] <Melissa_McC> sary OK - I'' try that again... I think I had a permissions error last time...
[21:16] <glitsj16> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Pastebin
[21:17] <sary> Melissa_McC: this is a fresh install..  iwounder why you may have a permissiion issue!
[21:18] <glitsj16> sary: can you guide Melissa_McC here for a moment please? I'm babysitting my brother's dog and she's going crazy in the yard
[21:19] <Melissa_McC> sary Its a new install over a broken 17.04 that wouldn't boot... BUT those commands seem to have gone in without error...
[21:19] <sary> glitsj16: np , take your time.
[21:19] <glitsj16> sary: appreciate that, thank you
[21:19] <quarters> does anyone here use xming or know where I might be able to get help on using it or with finding an alternative to it?
[21:21] <marco25> anyone got any ideas on how to fix these issues in ubuntu...ive already compuled beignet 1.3.1 and still experience same issues... https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=860805   https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100639
[21:21] <marco25> ive alseo already tried some of the suggested workarounds with no success :P
[21:21] <Melissa_McC> sary OK - your two cmds went in...but returned quick one line responses... "Building dependancy tree.....done"... but certainly didn't seem to actually be updating anything... when I tried apt-get --reinstall install thunderbird - same old error
[21:27] <sary> Melissa_McC: it's hard to tell what permissions issue your system having, do you happen to have an externial HDD ! it would be better to back up your files from /home .. you also seem to have an input I/o issue .. i suggest to do to a file system check at this point.
[21:29] <Melissa_McC> sary I'm ok with losing stuff here... this machine is my "mess about" one... (confession:  My win-pc is my 'serious' computer)
[21:30] <Melissa_McC> sary So - do you want me to try to re-install 17.04?
[21:30] <Melissa_McC> sary or is there an easier cmd to get it to dbl check everything?
[21:32] <sary> Melissa_McC: ok , yes reinstall but make usre to format / root  .. let the instller do it or select to do it manually.
[21:32] <Bashing-om> sary: Melissa_McC We been nessing with this for a spell now , Is it time to check dmesg for indications of hardware issues ?
[21:33] <sary> Melissa_McC: yes, you can check the file system after you reinstall or now .. #see http://sprunge.us/gaQj
[21:33] <sary> Bashing-om: Yeah , am thinking it could be the HDD faling .. hopefully not!
[21:34] <Bashing-om> sary: Same same thought :(
[21:34] <Melissa_McC> Bashing_om I've made some good progress...last night the box wouldn't even boot!  I pulled the graphics card out, and reinstalled 17.04 ...and its up!!  (it just needs tuning :)  )
[21:35] <Bashing-om> Melissa_McC: But ya got issues on a fresh install that just does not compute .
[21:36] <Melissa_McC> Bashing_om  Yeah - it was the "leave my files  - but install the OS" option...
[21:37] <glitsj16> Bashing-om: indeed, an empty locale on a fresh install was what we tried to fix earlier, trying to install pastebinit side-tracked things.. thanks again sary, the dog situation is okay now
[21:43] <sary> glitsj16: it's cool, wb :)
[21:44] <Bashing-om> glitsj16: sary ; Melissa_McC Back in my lurking mode :)
[21:45] <Melissa_McC> glitsj16 OK - I'm gonna copy off data - and just do a full fresh install.
[21:46] <glitsj16> Melissa_McC: okay, we'll be still here
[21:46] <glitsj16> thanks Bashing-om, lurk away
[21:46] <sary> rememba to reformat , not just install over an old / installation. you should have a fresh install then.
[21:48] <sary> also, make sure you install the proper nvidia driver before you go about plugin' a second monitor.
[22:21] <avoider> hello i need some help
[22:21] <antisaint> Hey, so I messed up my main display resolution dicking arround with drivers n such. I have a atd card and its got dvi and vga out, problem is the main monitor is stuck at 640-480 rather than the 1440 by 900 the second display is. There are not other resolutions in the display menu under system settings. What did I do?
[22:21] <avoider> making my second drive (storage) being able to access
[22:22] <avoider> i can see it on my desktop but it wont let me make folders or add files
[22:22] <avoider> any ideas?
[22:22] <antisaint> its mounted as ro?
[22:22] <avoider> antisaint how can i tell?
[22:22] <antisaint> type mounts
[22:23] <antisaint> no s sorry
[22:23] <avoider> says /dev/sda1 on /media/insidious/Storage type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,data=o
[22:23] <antisaint> sda1 should be main disk
[22:25] <thewillo> well, unless that hardware is ancient or in some legacy mode
[22:25] <avoider> https://pastebin.com/PeEztMjM
[22:25] <avoider> that is what lsblk says
[22:26] <antisaint> did you manually mount it?
[22:26] <avoider> i used gparted
[22:26] <antisaint> are you in a chroot env?
[22:26] <avoider> yeah it asked me for my root password
[22:26] <avoider> when i opened it
[22:27] <antisaint> ... Um... what all did u do in parted?
[22:27] <avoider> delete and format to ext4
[22:27] <antisaint> What is your goal?
[22:27] <avoider> to use it as a stoarge for media
[22:28] <antisaint> What is your os running off of?
[22:28] <avoider> Ubuntu
[22:28] <antisaint> live?
[22:28] <avoider> no
[22:28] <antisaint> sda1?
[22:28] <avoider> tb drive
[22:28] <sary> a premissions issue , perhaps .. if you do ls -al on the /media/storge ... what does it return!
[22:28] <antisaint> Where is your / (root) partition
[22:29] <avoider> what do you mean?
[22:29] <antisaint> :/
[22:29] <sary> run $ ls -al /media/insidious/Storage
[22:30] <avoider> https://pastebin.com/aAWN3tX9
[22:31] <avoider> that is the output
[22:31] <sary> antisaint: look into xander.
[22:32] <avoider> is that how its suppose to be?
[22:32] <antisaint> sary: It was something while ripping out the nividia driver and trying to update to the amd radion open source sdk, I dunno I vaguely recall hitting on a grub param and a xorg config... your have a thought?
[22:34] <antisaint> avoider: did you sync?
[22:35] <avoider> ?
[22:35] <avoider> it never asked me
[22:36] <avoider> i just opened up gparted it asked for my password... i deleted and formated  i can see it mounted but i cant create folder or drop files in it
[22:37] <Bashing-om> avoider: antisaint :: Internal partitions should be mountd from system file /etc/fstab . avoider; sda1 is on an internal drive, yes ?
[22:37] <sary> avoider: right click on the mounted storge , select properties > permissions
[22:38] <avoider> yes it says
[22:38] <avoider> the permissions of "storage" could not be determinded.
[22:40] <sary> antisaint: so you had drivers conflect , whichever driver you're using you should be able to set the resolutions with xander.
[22:41] <antisaint> xrandr --auto --output DVI-0 --mode 1440x900 --right-of DVI-1 Gave cannot find mode 1440x900 :/
[22:42] <avoider> sary, any ideas??
[22:46] <sary> avoider: follow Bashing-om ..
[22:47] <avoider> ?
[22:48] <sary> avoider: paste the output of /etc/fstab  to paste.ubuntu.com
[22:50] <avoider> says permisson denied
[22:50] <avoider> even when i try with root
[22:51] <hggdh> if it helps any, the output of the ls -la shows .. has an ACL in place
[22:52] <hggdh> (the + sign at the end of the permissions string)
[22:53] <Bashing-om> hggdh: Uh Huh . avoider Was wondering why Access Control List is in effect .
[22:54] <avoider> im just trying to be able to use a mounted drive
[22:54] <hggdh> I just looked at my /media, and it also has a ACL applied on /media/<userId>,
[22:54] <hggdh> (but I have nothing mounted there)
[22:55] <hggdh> avoider: what is shown when you getfacl /media/insidious?
[22:56] <Bashing-om> hggdh: New one on me ! " drwxr-x---+  2 root root 4096 Jun 25 12:31 sysop " for my /media/ .
[22:57] <hggdh> Bashing-om: I expect your /media/<userId> will also show your id as r-x
[22:57] <hggdh> (on a getfacl)
[22:58] <avoider> hggdh: https://pastebin.com/4ptaQhbS
[23:00] <hggdh> avoider: yes. Not different from mine. This is not bad, only says 'insidious' is allowed to browse the directory
[23:00] <hggdh> now, why /media/insidious/storage got owned by root... that's a good question
[23:03] <antisaint> Alright, so I just wiped the xorg.conf file in /etc/x11/ and restarted lightdm and poof all my resolutions came back like autogen... lolz fun fun.. why did it do that anyways? Any known issues where xorg will go apesh(fun)it
[23:03] <hggdh> and... as far as I can remember, if you used gparted to format the /dev/sda1, and then mount it... IIRC, you would have to run gparted as root, so it is expected the directory will be owned by root
[23:04] <antisaint> try the apitimal $  mount -o remount,rw /dev/sda1
[23:05] <avoider> so is it no fix?
[23:05] <antisaint> Im golden ghrams mayn. Thanxa
[23:06] <hggdh> yes, you can fix it. If it is an internal disk on your machine, use /etc/fstab, and then chown the mount point
[23:06] <hggdh> or just chown the mount point, as you prefer
[23:06] <avoider> not sure how to do this and yes its internal disk
[23:07] <hggdh> avoider: sudo chown insidious: /media/insidious/storage
[23:08] <avoider> says invaild command
[23:09] <Bashing-om> avoider: Of consideration is if you want that partition mounted all the time or only as on-demand . I feel on-demand is the more safe thing for my valuable data but !! if ya go with on demand and "you" mount it then you are responsible to make sure it is UNmounted when you are done with it .
[23:09] <avoider> yeah
[23:09] <avoider> i want it mounted all the time
[23:10] <hggdh> avoider: I assumed (1) 'insidious' is the userId; (2) 'storage' is the mountpoint. Adjust as needed
[23:10] <hggdh> gotta go
[23:11] <Bashing-om> avoider: than as advised make a enty on /etc/fstab for that partition. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountlinux .
[23:12] <avoider> thats the command i typed with my useer and storage
[23:12] <avoider> still dont work
[23:12] <antisaint> sudo chown insidious: /media/insidious/storage  <<<< Remove the ::::::: :)
[23:13] <antisaint> Or add the root group after it
[23:14] <avoider> still the same thing
[23:15] <antisaint> I personally thing if your trying to chown it, id go with this: sudo chown -hR insidious /media/insidious/storage
[23:16] <avoider> chown: cannot access '/media/insidious/storage': No such file or directory
[23:16] <antisaint> Is it capped right?
[23:16] <antisaint> :P
[23:16] <avoider> lol
[23:16] <avoider> sry
[23:16] <Bashing-om> avoider: I would suggest a full permissions ' sudo chown insidious:insidious /media/insidious/storage ' . Where insidious is the username on your system . AND that insidious has the admin rights to make the change .
[23:16] <antisaint> Agreed
[23:17] <antisaint> But its a symlink and id do a recursive lol but who am i to run it... nope.
[23:18] <Bashing-om> avoider: OH ! it is a upper case S on storage ! Storage . case makes a difference !
[23:18] <avoider> Thank you guys.
[23:18] <avoider> yes it does. lol
[23:18] <antisaint> ;) u get it?
[23:18] <avoider> yes lol
[23:18] <avoider> apericate all the help guys
[23:19] <antisaint> right on. make a alias if u dont wanna do it by hand all the time. themz are nifty beasts
[23:19] <avoider> ill drop my znc to ilde in a few.... thanks again
[23:19] <Bashing-om> avoider: Help is wht we do, just making sure you get what you want and do not break the system :)
[23:20] <antisaint> isnt ther ea restore system... I just read something about that
[23:38] <tom23> hey
[23:40] <tom23> ok, so i am new to irc. how does this work? can i get help with ubuntu here?
[23:41] <antisaint> tom23: Just ask what you need, if somebody knows they will pipe up
[23:41] <tom23> ok, thanks
[23:41] <antisaint> Be clear, and consice, logs help too ;P
[23:43] <tom23> thinkpad x220 install. brand new hdd, touchpad works for approx 2mins. then stops. close lid and reopen, touchpad works for a couple minutes then quits again.
[23:45] <antisaint> tom23: Is there a screensaver or anything coming up? Ive heard issues where x can kill inputs if screensaver comes on. Is this everytime at 2 mins like clockwork?
[23:47] <tom23> no screensaver, it just stopd polling for clicks of the mouse buttons. moving thepointer works, but can't click
[23:49] <antisaint> Try this one first: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:51] <tom23> @antisaint - ok, i'll give that a shot.
[23:53] <quarters> hello. I was having issues with neovim and was wondering how to find out the different paths where things like the color schemes need to be installed specific to ubuntu
[23:55] <antisaint> tom23: Curiosity, whats your output of: lspci | grep Display
[23:56] <sary> tom23: does it behave like that while on batter or AC adapter!
[23:59] <sary> tom23: #see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/X220#Input , also make sure xserver-xorg-input-synaptics is installed , sudo apt install xserver-xorg-input-synaptics