[15:30] <technoviking> Is there a set color for borders within the brand guidelines?
[15:32] <daker> borders ? http://design.ubuntu.com/web/rounded-corners-and-drop-shadows
[15:32] <steveedwards> technoviking: We tend to use #aea79f for box borders on the web.
[15:32] <technoviking> steveedwards: thanks
[15:32] <steveedwards> technoviking: No worries.
[15:33] <technoviking> going to try to fix the rounded corner on the forums today to match the guidelines, vBulletin is the devil :)
[15:33] <steveedwards> technoviking: I can imagine. Good luck!
[19:43] <AlanBell> what do you think about the idea of embedding UDS video pages from blip.tv into the summit meeting pages after UDS?
[19:44] <AlanBell> so the UDS meeting model would grow a video field, and someone would populate it with the blip or youtube URL and it would grow an embedded video below the pad
[19:57] <cjohnston> no
[19:57] <cjohnston> cause I dont want to get stuck adding them
[19:57] <cjohnston> ;-)
[20:03] <nigelb> AlanBell: +1
[20:03] <nigelb> AlanBell: we can get cjohnston to add them :D
[21:01] <AlanBell> same for the audio files
[21:08] <cjohnston> if it can be automated, but im against making something that requires human involvement... when it does people complain too much that it isnt done quick enough
[22:04] <nigelb> cjohnston: I thought you were full-time summit dev? :D
[22:08] <cjohnston> not full time, and keyword being dev


[12:57] <DVA5912> Looking to get into this it looks realy really cool. But how do i go about geting an image onto my pocket pc, or is it possible


[12:34] <rigo> hi
[12:34] <rigo> im trying to install raring and get em:
[12:35] <rigo> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of linux-headers-3.7.2-030702-generic:  linux-headers-3.7.2-030702-generic depends on linux-headers-3.7.2-030702; however:   Package linux-headers-3.7.2-030702 is not installed.
[12:35] <rigo> i download the 3 .deb files from here http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.7.2-raring/ and type dpkg -i *.deb
[12:36] <rigo> 12.10 x64
[12:49] <yofel_> rigo: sounds like you're missing the "all" file
[12:52] <rigo> so i need one more file? u mean this? linux-headers-3.7.2-030702_3.7.2-030702.201301111424_all.deb
[12:53] <yofel_> right
[12:53] <rigo> gr8 thanks. than i need 4 files to install. i give a try.
[12:57] <rigo> works like charm. thanks.
[12:57] <rigo> what do u suggest? should i remove all of the old kernels?
[12:58] <yofel_> feel free to do that *after* making sure the new one works fine
[12:59] <rigo> what is the easyest way to do that?
[13:06] <BluesKaj> howdy all
[14:15] <penguin42> Hey BK
[14:28] <BluesKaj> I think something in my hardware has been written out of the 3.7 and 3.8rc kernels . Neither work on my pc , not even on 12.10
[14:28] <penguin42> BluesKaj: They haven't been written out; you're just hitting a bug
[14:28] <penguin42> BluesKaj: The only stuff removed recently was old i386
[14:29] <BluesKaj> others with similar if not the same HW don't have a problem it seems
[14:30] <penguin42> as I say a bug
[14:30] <BluesKaj> could be my graphics card , but I need it for this monitor ...no VGA inputs
[14:32] <penguin42> it fails really early for you doesn't it, even with the recovery options?
[14:32] <BluesKaj> yup
[14:33] <penguin42> have you altered grub not to use graphics stuff?
[14:33] <penguin42> that's a disaster for graphics card compatibility
[14:33] <BluesKaj> ubiquity fails , even if I can get a desktop with the live dvd
[14:34] <penguin42> what kernel is on the live dvd?
[14:34] <penguin42> (ubiquity failing isn't too unusual)
[14:34] <BluesKaj> well, I'm using the daily build and the default is 3.7 I believe
[14:35] <penguin42> well if the live dvd is starting up with a 3.7 but you can't boot an installed 3.7 then that adds more to the idea it's grub/kernel hand off, and if you suspect the graphics card then it makes sense to put that back to basics
[14:36] <BluesKaj> which is ?
[14:37] <penguin42> BluesKaj: If you install an old version that works, then uncomment the GRUB_TERMINAL=console line in /etc/default/grub and do an update-grub   it'll stop it using the graphics stuff
[14:39]  * penguin42 notices there is now a /boot/grub/gfxblacklist.txt  I wonder when that landed
[14:42] <BluesKaj> penguin42, how would I install an older kernel like the 3.5 to run 13.04 if the dvd won't install the OS ,,,I'm not going to upgrade this 12.10 to 13.04 via an internet upgrade ..I need one stable OS
[14:43] <penguin42> so what do you currently have installed and working solidly?
[14:45] <penguin42> you can put the grub in 12.10 in text mode and then try installing a 3.7 kernel, you can always just try it
[15:01] <BluesKaj> penguin42, what do you mean put grub in text mode , not sure what that is?
[15:04] <penguin42> BluesKaj: When Grub starts it either uses oldschool VGA text mode where each byte in video memory is one character or it uses graphics mode where it draws the characters, the later is more complex
[15:04] <penguin42> BluesKaj: Good old VGA text mode works with pretty much any graphics card
[15:05] <penguin42> BluesKaj: In graphics mode the 'hand off' to the kernel seems a bit hairier as well
[15:06] <BluesKaj> penguin42, well the dvd seems to be using text mode when I try to install 13.04 from the install menu page , because there's no graphic just text
[15:07] <penguin42> BluesKaj: Right, but once you've installed it'll install grub and then try and probably boot in graphics mode
[15:08] <BluesKaj> if do the noapci and nomodeset to the desktop, then ubuquity tries the graphics mode and jusrt sits there with spinning cursor
[15:09] <penguin42> BluesKaj: as I say, I'd try seeing if you can get a 3.7/3.8 to boot on an existing install and try and avoid ubiquity for the moment
[15:10] <BluesKaj> penguin42, think I'll wai til I see some fixes to amd and nvidia on the kernel in launchpad since it's still pretty early days
[15:19] <penguin42> fair enough, worth looking at /etc/default/grub so you can see what's there
[15:26] <BluesKaj> looks pretty standard
[15:28] <penguin42> BluesKaj: Yep, see the GRUB_TERMINAL, that's the one I normally turn on if there are any boot time graphics probs
[15:29] <penguin42> the other thing if you have one installed that won't boot is if you can get grub up then before booting the kernel edit the option and remove all vthandoff lines and all quiet and splash stuff and see if it gets there
[15:33] <BluesKaj> I have no  GRUB_TERMINAL , line in /etc/default/grub, penguin42
[15:36] <penguin42> not one starting with #  preceeded by the comment 'Uncomment to disable graphical terminal (grub-pc only)    ?
[15:39] <BluesKaj> penguin42, this is the first line GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=keep , then further down , GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480  ..should these be commented?
[15:42] <penguin42> sounds very different from mine
[15:42] <penguin42> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1527760/  is mine
[16:22] <BluesKaj> penguin42, here's my default grub http://paste.kde.org/645956/
[16:23] <penguin42> hmm that's boringly uncommented
[16:25] <BluesKaj> well i didn't write it , except for the terminal line :)
[16:27] <penguin42> hmm wonder why, mine is an upgrade, but would someone change it to remove the comments?
[16:28] <BluesKaj> BBL


[23:00] <amitava> i am trying to extract the embedded initramfs within /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-32-server - here's the log http://pastie.org/2189620
[23:01] <amitava> it seems to be encrypted - is that right?
[23:02] <amitava> is there a way to extract the built-in initramfs? or does ubuntu use another fs like squash-fs?


[08:07] <omar-itsupport> Hello
[10:32] <mhall119> daker: hey, it looks like the loco team portal isn't able to pull Flicker images anymore, do you know what's happened?
[10:33] <mhall119> I suspect an API changed or key has expired
[12:01] <daker> mhall119: hi, ok i'll take a look at it when i am home
[13:15] <mhall119> thanks daker
[13:15] <mhall119> I also found that pix.ie doesn't appear to be around anymore


[13:25] <benji> I assume people other than myself received a message about PyPI's phasing out of external packages and LP-owned packages that are affected.
[13:34] <cjwatson> benji: I had a few.  Do you have the full list of packages you received messages about?
[13:34] <benji> cjwatson: sure, one sec
[13:35] <benji> cjwatson: lazr.restful wadllib launchpadlib lazr.restfulclient lazr.batchnavigator
[13:39] <cjwatson> right, I had   lazr.lifecycle lazr.batchnavigator lazr.restful launchpadlib
[13:40] <cjwatson> wgrant: should have got lazr.restfulclient and wadllib as well
[23:45] <wgrant> cjwatson: Yep, got all of those, haven't dealt with them yet though.


[18:43] <bekks> fachex: Where's the output of du -h --max-depth=1 /home/administrator - did I miss it?
[18:43] <fachex> bekks, yes you did
[18:44] <fachex> I pasted it
[18:44] <brightsparks> Hi. I'm having problems with VLC. I can't resize the VLC window it's fully filling my screen each time I use it and I don't know how to reduce it's size.
[18:44] <bekks> fachex: So would you mind to share that link again?
[18:44] <fachex> TJ- well, is a raid 1 volumen
[18:44] <user_> aaaaaaaaaaaaa
[18:44] <Hapz> so i have this thing that collapses windows of the same program
[18:44] <allohak> Question about sound (alsa/pulseaudio)
[18:44] <Hapz> how the hell do i remove that stupid feature
[18:44] <Hapz> i want 10 icons for 10 terminals, not 1 for all of them
[18:45] <fachex> bekks, http://pastebin.com/5QdyCaGb
[18:45] <TJ-> fachex: I'm seeing looped paths here, ext4, amd64, 3.2.0-31-generic
[18:45] <fachex> TJ- with three partition
[18:45] <bekks> fachex: then provide ls -lha /home/administrator please
[18:46] <fachex> bekks, http://pastebin.com/sN5m4K3K
[18:47] <goddard> ActionParsnip: let me see if i can find the link for what i am talking about
[18:47] <fachex> TJ- , what do you mean?
[18:47] <bekks> -rw-------  1 administrator administrator 357G Sep 25 13:30 .xsession-errors.old
[18:47] <bekks> There is your wasted space.
[18:47] <jrib> bekks: haha, wow
[18:47] <fachex> bekks, where?
[18:47] <bekks> fachex: line 48
[18:47] <fachex> let's see
[18:48] <tweetergal> woaj
[18:48] <fachex> bekks, should I go ahead and delete that
[18:48] <roberto> joan sorry I was away did you get that printer up working again?
[18:48] <fachex> ?
[18:48] <tweetergal> why are there so many ubuntu users?
[18:48] <tweetergal> is ubuntu an OS?
[18:48] <bekks> fachex: Yes.
[18:48] <TJ-> fachex: Have you done an offline fsck?
[18:48] <roberto> tweetergal, define OS
[18:49] <agrestringere> got a question, does Ubuntu Web Apps work with Xubuntu?
[18:49] <tweetergal> operating system ??
[18:49] <agrestringere> Xubuntu 12.04 LTS
[18:49] <tweetergal> is ubuntu part of linux?
[18:49] <ThinkT510> tweetergal: linux is the kernel
[18:50] <ThinkT510> !ubuntu | tweetergal
[18:50] <goddard> ActionParsnip: I found the link
[18:50] <goddard> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/11/install-gnome-shell-global-menu-in.html
[18:50] <Jamey_> Cool easy
[18:50] <roberto> tweetergal, think of the different "linux OS" as different collections of programs, all based on linux.
[18:50] <allohak> anyone want to help debug an audio problem?
[18:50] <Jamey_> i lle be back
[18:50] <spoljo> roberto: you mean gnu
[18:50] <roberto> spoljo, Gnu/Linux
[18:51] <Jamey_> whats news here ?
[18:51] <spoljo> roberto: yes but linux is just kernel , userspace is gnu
[18:51] <tweetergal> so why do people use linux?
[18:51] <roberto> "gnu's not unix/linux" to be exact
[18:51] <spoljo> tweetergal: why do people use windows ?
[18:51] <roberto> tweetergal, I use it because it's stable
[18:51] <roberto> and safe
[18:51] <goddard> cause its awesome like me tweetergal
[18:51] <roberto> We could use the salesman's question, too: "Why don't you use linux?"
[18:52] <Jamey_> i use linux y o trop easy
[18:52] <fachex> bekks, you did it!!!!!!
[18:52] <tweetergal> thats weird, windows got everything setup, pretty gui.. few clicks you can get what you want.
[18:52] <ThinkT510> tweetergal: i use it because i value my freedom, by the way this is a support channel
[18:52] <fachex> OMG, what was that??????
[18:52] <tweetergal> i don't understand why people use linux
[18:52] <fachex> why in the world?
[18:52] <DAudioLink> Quick question: If my problem is in setting up/configuring lm sensors/fan speeds do I need to ask elsewhere?
[18:52] <goddard> tweetergal: haha
[18:53] <goddard> tweetergal: so does Ubuntu
[18:53] <roberto> tweetergal, you can also get what you want with a few clicks in linux. With no clicks, actually.
[18:53] <agrestringere> Question about Xubuntu 12.04, do those new Ubuntu "Web Apps" integrate with XFCE? I really want to integrate things like Gmail and Google Calendar into them without using an annoying email client...
[18:53] <goddard> tweetergal: what do you use your computer for?
[18:53] <goddard> watching cat videos on youtube or work?
[18:54] <ThinkT510> agrestringere: web apps are used with a browser aren't they?
[18:54] <Jamey_> roberto i syntetise my mind
[18:54] <tweetergal> everything
[18:54] <roberto> Jamey_, what for? Your current isn't good enough?
[18:54] <goddard> tweetergal: i dont know what everything is
[18:54] <ThinkT510> tweetergal: do you want to give ubuntu a go? take a livecd for a spin or try it in a vm
[18:55] <ThinkT510> tweetergal: at the end of the day its up to you what you want to use
[18:55] <Jamey_> my friend is death
[18:55] <tweetergal> Ya, my friend shown me. he put unbuntu into an CD and able to boot it into OS enviroment.
[18:55] <tweetergal> pretty amazing
[18:56] <fachex> bekks, now even a bigger problem, VMWare does not open the machine...dang
[18:56] <Jamey_> a girl !!!
[18:56] <roberto> tweetergal, real-world (my) example: Someone brings in a computer from another office to our office. We use 802.1X based ethernet authentication. That was a serious show-stopper for the poor guy. IT was called, machine had to be sent in, etc. On linux I just checked "use 802.1x" and input user/pwd. less hassle
[18:56] <fachex> that file must have been related to it.
[18:57] <bekks> fachex: ...and the exact, complete error message is...?
[18:57] <Jamey_> she s is  dead
[18:57] <Jamey_> snif
[18:57] <ThinkT510> !ot | Jamey_
[18:57] <roberto> tweetergal, you can also use the CD image to create a bootable USB stick, much faster and all.
[18:57] <Jamey_> i dont like this but this sad
[18:57] <DAudioLink> I have an Intel DG33TL mobo and a Q6600 Core2Duo CPU, I want to set the CPU fan to try and keep the CPU below 60C. I can't get lmsensors to register the CPU sensors as anything other than coretemp, and pwmconfig doesn't show anything configurable.
[18:58] <tweetergal> woah
[18:58] <goddard> tweetergal: windows is good but Ubuntu is a lot nicer but you gotta figure out the right way to do stuff its not the same as windows but actualy having an Ubuntu machine is less hassle because you have no viruses and you also dont get a bunch of pop ups about updates
[18:58] <tweetergal> so many IT experts here
[18:58] <DAudioLink> Any ideas for setting up throtling/fan control to keep the CPU temp in check?
[18:58] <ThinkT510> tweetergal: its a support channel, general chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:59] <Jamey_> luther season three ???
[18:59] <agrestringere> tweetergal: it's about knowing what your software is doing. Windows and Mac can be spying on you and it's not a joke.  Internet Explorer is suspected to record all your activities online and feed it to Bing.com for building their search results.  With Linux, Ubuntu and Open Source you never have that problem because the activity of the programs you use are known to the community...
[18:59] <Jamey_> i like the actor
[18:59] <allohak> I am running ubuntu server, and trying to get pulseaudio working. At the moment, pacmd list-cards is reporting 0 cards, and I suspect this has something to do with the fact aplay is only playing sound when I run it as sudo. I have already tried adding my user to the "audio" group.
[18:59] <DJones> Jamey_: Do you have an Ubuntu support question? Please remember this is a support channel for Ubuntu
[18:59] <roberto> tweetergal, if you want to try out ubuntu without removing windows entirely, you can run it in a window inside windows :) Google "virtualbox"
[18:59] <ThinkT510> Jamey_: stop it
[19:00] <Jamey_> luther season three ???
[19:00] <Jamey_> i like the actor
[19:00] <roberto> agrestringere, well if you use google as your search engine...
[19:00] <roberto> ban Jamey_ ?
[19:00] <Jamey_> thas is the question
[19:00] <DJones> Jamey_: That has nothing to do with Ubuntu
[19:00] <goddard> luther is a good show
[19:01] <Jamey_> goddors  yo lokike this monkey
[19:01] <Jamey_> hum
[19:01] <Jamey_> lol
[19:01] <DJones> Jamey_: If yo want general chat, please use #ubuntu-offto[ic
[19:01] <goddard> what haha?
[19:01] <farrang> lol
[19:01] <ThinkT510> goddard: don't encourage him
[19:02] <msangi> tweetergal: from my perspective, i just installed ubuntu recently, i have not rebooted into windows since
[19:02] <katja> ever since I upgraded to 11.10 my pc freezes up all the time
[19:02] <katja> anyone else having that problem
[19:02] <katja> 2gb of ram
[19:02] <msangi> what windows can do, ubuntu can do at least as good, but better
[19:02] <roberto> katja, well I always had trouble after upgrading. Prefer clean installs.
[19:02] <tweetergal> LOL
[19:02] <katja> never happened with the older version
[19:02] <tweetergal> liar
[19:02] <katja> i could try that roberto
[19:03] <moustafa> katja, 11.10 was a decent release, but 12.04 is overall better
[19:03] <moustafa> katja, Try that one instead
[19:03] <katja> okay
[19:03] <roberto> I usually get a usb drive, rsync -arv /home/* /media/<usbdrive>/ and then do a clean install.
[19:03] <allohak> I am running ubuntu server, and trying to get pulseaudio working. At the moment, pacmd list-cards is reporting 0 cards, and I suspect this has something to do with the fact aplay is only playing sound when I run it as sudo. I have already tried adding my user to the "audio" group.
[19:03] <boldfilter> What's the irc for Cinnamon?
[19:03] <MonkeyDust> katja  for a start, type sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade;sudo apt-get autoremove     <---paste that in a terminal
[19:03] <tweetergal> but is application base on windows compatible with ubuntu?
[19:04] <msangi> i wanted to ask, the default modem manager, does it use ppp or wvdial to connect?
[19:04] <roberto> tweetergal, check out http://winehq.org
[19:04] <MonkeyDust> katja  what moustafa says is even better
[19:04] <ThinkT510> !equivalent | tweetergal
[19:04] <ThinkT510> tweetergal: it is better to use native alternatives
[19:04] <katja> okay I didnt realize there is a newer version
[19:05] <roberto> katja, for example TeamViewer use the windows binaries in their OFFICIAL "linux" packages. It's just a linux package with windows binaries inside...
[19:05] <ThinkT510> tweetergal: if you need something very specific then wine could work
[19:05] <ThinkT510> !appdb | tweetergal
[19:05] <joan> roberto, thanx for that really good tutorial on udev rules
[19:06] <roberto> hi again joan did that firmware download work?
[19:06] <roberto> You can du very interesting things with udev. Turn on lights in your house when you plugin the Mouse usb receiver... you name it
[19:06] <joan> I can't test it until tomorrow (I'm in Valencia, Europe), I'll tell you
[19:06] <joan> yeah, :)
[19:07] <roberto> ok sleep tight.
[19:07] <farrang> fuck u roberto u pedo
[19:07] <cm1nus> hi i need help with darwin
[19:07] <katja> sorry roberto I am working so kinda missed what you meant about teamviewer
[19:07] <cm1nus> there is no apt-get
[19:07] <ThinkT510> cm1nus: this is just for ubuntu support
[19:08] <cm1nus> isnt darwin ubuntu
[19:08] <MonkeyDust> cm1nus  wrong channel
[19:08] <rcmaehl> I need help. For some reason X won't start for me and I'm stuck in a TTY right now. FailsafeX doesn't even work.  Thank you very much. One problem with linux is that there is a lot of info in the net but the good one is hard to find.
[19:09] <MonkeyDust> cm1nus  try #puredarwin
[19:09] <cm1nus> hey who is tht pissed off anally raped dog
[19:10] <goddard> ?
[19:10] <goddard> relax kid
[19:10] <rcmaehl> Bad troll was bad
[19:10] <farrang> sex
[19:11] <mtelesha> can we have a kick on farrang?
[19:11]  * rcmaehl applauds DJones for his excellent troll handling.
[19:11] <IdleOne> No need to comment on removal/kicks. back to support.
[19:12] <goddard> haha so can anyone help me figure out why this ppa doesn't wana work http://www.webupd8.org/2011/11/install-gnome-shell-global-menu-in.html
[19:12] <roberto> joan, thanks but I didn't write that :D
[19:12] <allohak> If noone answers your original posted question after a few minutes, is it appropriate to repost it?
[19:12] <rcmaehl> Ok...
[19:12] <goddard> ya
[19:12] <rcmaehl> I need help. For some reason X won't start for me and I'm stuck in a TTY right now. FailsafeX doesn't even work. Ubuntu 12.04 64-bit with a Nvidia GTX260 216 core SP and a Nvidia 7300 GT
[19:13] <joan> yeah, but you pointed at it, roberto. ;)
[19:13] <tweetergal> does ubuntu has something like registry ??
[19:13] <goddard> tweetergal: no
[19:13] <goddard> tweetergal: Ubuntu uses config files
[19:13] <rcmaehl> Registry ~= ~/.config/
[19:13] <allohak> I am running ubuntu server, and trying to get pulseaudio working. At the moment, pacmd list-cards is reporting 0 cards, and I suspect this has something to do with the fact aplay is only playing sound when I run it as sudo. I have already tried adding my user to the "audio" group.
[19:16] <grandal_prime> hey
[19:17] <grandal_prime> Ive set up ntp on me new server.  i can query the servers ..my time is still hours off
[19:17] <grandal_prime> and yes i removed ntpdate
[19:17] <grandal_prime> is there a way to force a resync with ntpq ?
[19:17] <zykotick9> grandal_prime: check your timezone is correct
[19:17] <roberto> tweetergal, you could have a look at gconf-editor
[19:17] <roberto> sudo apt-get install ~
[19:17] <allohak> I am running ubuntu server, and trying to get pulseaudio working. At the moment, pacmd list-cards is reporting 0 cards, and I suspect this has something to do with the fact aplay is only playing sound when I run it as sudo. I have already tried adding my user to the "audio" group.
[19:18] <roberto> grandal_prime, does cat /var/log/messages |grep ntp say anything like successfully adjusted, offset so and so much?
[19:18] <goddard> allohak: have you tried #ubuntu-server ?
[19:18] <wilee-nilee> goddard, Is the app showing in the extensions in the advanced settings app installed as gnome-tweak
[19:18] <grandal_prime> tz american los angles
[19:19] <allohak> goddard: Yes, I have posted there as well
[19:20] <vitimiti> bye
[19:21] <rcmaehl> I need help. For some reason X won't start for me and I'm stuck in a TTY right now. FailsafeX doesn't even work. Ubuntu 12.04 64-bit with a Nvidia GTX260 216 core SP and a Nvidia 7300 GT.
[19:21] <goddard> wilee-nilee: not that i can see
[19:21] <msangi> i asked earlier whether the modem manager for 12.04 used ppp or wvdial for connecting. the reason is that there are times when i am connected but i can't access the internet. have an ip and gateway, but dns lookup seems not to be working. is it a problem from my end or the providers? i appreciate any help.
[19:22] <grandal_prime> ya roberto  nothing in there.
[19:22] <grandal_prime> roberto,  i mean nothing in the messages log, nothing in demon or syslog
[19:22] <grandal_prime> nothing about ntp anyway
[19:22] <roberto> grandal_prime, is it EXACTLY a few hours off, or hours+minutes?
[19:22] <AlanBell> msangi: if you are connected through something that network manager doesn't know about then you can have problems with things like firefox automatically going to offline mode
[19:22] <goddard> wilee-nilee: it doesn't even install when i do an apt-get install
[19:23] <wilee-nilee> goddard, That web page says nov 2011 that be old stuff laddy, there is a a menu available I would get a newer page on it, I'm not sure really.
[19:23] <goddard> wilee-nilee: complains about some gnome-extensions-commons issue and says it cannot install
[19:23] <msangi> AlanBell: its working right now, as i am connected, but an hour or so ago it died and could not connect to any site.
[19:23] <goddard> wilee-nilee: yeah im guessing the same
[19:23] <allohak> I am running ubuntu server, and trying to get pulseaudio working. At the moment, pacmd list-cards is reporting 0 cards, and I suspect this has something to do with the fact aplay is only playing sound when I run it as sudo. I have already tried adding my user to the "audio" group.
[19:23] <goddard> wilee-nilee: figured it would be more popular
[19:24] <AlanBell> allohak: you could possibly install ubuntu-desktop, which might sort out the missing bits, but will drag in a heap of other stuff you might not want
[19:24] <grandal_prime> Tue Sep 25 12:23:01 PDT 2012  is one that is correct... machine that is behind is...Tue Sep 25 12:52:15 PDT 2012
[19:24] <grandal_prime> and that werid i was several hours off a min ago
[19:24] <grandal_prime> does it do this slowly
[19:24] <roberto> grandal_prime, if it's way off it will jump as far as I remember. If it's just a little, ntp will adjust little by little. Could be I'm wrong.
[19:25] <grandal_prime> sorry i was looking at the wrong box..the one that is off is...Tue Sep 25 13:53:13 PDT 2012
[19:25] <grimeton> bekks: https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=50042
[19:25] <grandal_prime> ya so its like an hour + some
[19:25] <roberto> ok, minutes or seconds?
[19:25] <roberto> anyway, can you use wireshark to look at the packets coming and going?
[19:25] <wilee-nilee> goddard, there is a app that is a main menu setup that works I don't use it but have looked at it it is called application menu exstension
[19:25] <roberto> you can filter for "ntp" to avoid seeing all that other traffic.
[19:26] <wilee-nilee> extension*
[19:26] <grandal_prime> my firewall is set to allow related back in and the box can get out. i get server information back
[19:27] <goddard> wilee-nilee: yeah that is a nice exstension but this one is a little different
[19:28] <goddard> wilee-nilee: it replaces the actual application menu kind of like Unity
[19:29] <wilee-nilee> goddard, Yeah I use synapse to search in gnome 3 and have cairo dock installed for the regulars.
[19:29] <FlipShaw> rcmaehl: If you still need help, I was wondering what your xorg.conf file looked like
[19:29] <goddard> wilee-nilee: with Gnome Shell have you tried the Bolt extension?
[19:29] <wilee-nilee> goddard, I haven't n o.
[19:30] <roberto> grandal_prime, sorry if this has been asked already: do you use ntp time server or ntpdate as a command?
[19:30] <rcmaehl> FlipShaw: I can't really pastebin it but I can type it out to you in pm unless there's an irssi command to send it to you
[19:30] <goddard> wilee-nilee: its similar to the dash actually looks better in my opinion
[19:30] <grandal_prime> ntp time
[19:30] <roberto> the ntpdate command?
[19:30] <FlipShaw> rcmaehl: pm is fine
[19:30] <grandal_prime> no
[19:30] <grandal_prime> just ntp.
[19:30] <grandal_prime> ntpdate is uninistalled.
[19:31] <roberto> ok. I've always used ntpdate as a one-shot to set the time staight. Now, did you try setting a specific time server in the configs? Could be some bad time server maybe, causing time to be wildly off once in a while?
[19:32] <grandal_prime> ive noticed on most machines if both are installed ntpdate interfere with tnp
[19:32] <grandal_prime> ntp that is
[19:32] <wilee-nilee> goddard, I don't use unity, did for about a year but switched to the shell, not sure if the dash is part of the shell, to be honest my computer is just a tool for writing papers in a masters program and surfing the web I don't really spend much time customizing it, I don't really have the time.
[19:33] <rcmaehl> FlipShaw: hold on about 10 minutes, #linux is looking at my Xorg log file
[19:33] <goddard> wilee-nilee: i do a lot of programming and work on open source projects so i get to mess with stuff like this
[19:33] <grandal_prime> im using    the server 0.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org
[19:34] <greenit> how can i list the currently used graphics driver in the console?
[19:34] <grandal_prime> 0 - 3
[19:34] <goddard> wilee-nilee: i like the speed and lightness of gnome shell but some of the features of unity
[19:34] <wilee-nilee> goddard, well we pseudo geeks love that you and others do the hard work. ;)
[19:34] <FlipShaw> rcmaehl: That's fine, I'll be here, but I doubt I know alot more than any other guys :)
[19:34] <nsudo> any application to read apple partition on ubuntu 12.04
[19:34] <mercano> Привет
[19:34] <wilee-nilee> !ru | mercano
[19:34] <genii-around> nsudo: Yes, hfsutils
[19:35] <genii-around> nsudo: Additionally you might want hfsplus package
[19:35] <goddard> wilee-nilee: its fun plus there are cool geek parties all the time
[19:35] <grandal_prime> ya this sucks...it says.. Universal Time is now:  Tue Sep 25 21:03:50 UTC 2012.
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> goddard, Had I not gotten a open source setup on my first computer at a used recycler I would probably never have found it lol, I use it primarily, ts what I learned to use.
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> it's*
[19:36] <grandal_prime> and im prettty sure that is not right
[19:37] <nsudo> genii-around; in synaptic
[19:37] <Juanopsy> Any spanish speaker? that can help me with some ubuntu random crashes?
[19:37] <gordonjcp> wilee-nilee: you can get stuck into the work too
[19:37] <EnderTheThird> anyone else here use one of the cheapo Korean 2560x1440 monitors from eBay?  Ubuntu is having a heck of a time with this monitor/resolution.
[19:37] <gordonjcp> !es | Juanopsy
[19:37] <wilee-nilee> Juanopsy, The channel is english but there is a spanish channel for ubuntu.
[19:37] <gordonjcp> wilee-nilee: file bugs
[19:37] <Juanopsy> thanks
[19:38] <Juanopsy> I would apresiate english help anyway...
[19:38] <wilee-nilee> gordonjcp, I do what is needed I have been using open source for about 5 years I have run every major linux distro minus gentoo, I'm far from a noob.
[19:38] <roberto> grandal_prime, what happens if you run ntpq and the pe command? See any scary results?
[19:39] <genii-around> nsudo: Yes, hfsplus and hfsutils packages from synaptic or apt-get or Software Center or however you normally install packages in your Ubuntu
[19:39] <allohak> I am running ubuntu server, and trying to get pulseaudio working. At the moment, pacmd list-cards is reporting 0 cards, and I suspect this has something to do with the fact aplay is only playing sound when I run it as sudo. I have already tried adding my user to the "audio" group.
[19:40] <grandal_prime> roberto -e ?
[19:41] <wilee-nilee> gordonjcp, I have not actually had a bug that was not already reported as well.
[19:41] <grandal_prime> illegal option for -pe
[19:41] <grandal_prime> it doesnt like the e
[19:41] <gordonjcp> wilee-nilee: even if you confirm bugs or give good examples of how to trigger them
[19:41] <Sebastia> Hi @ all! my name is Sebastian Tischer and I am student at the university of technology in Dresden and need to talk to some developers or employes within the company/foundation...
[19:41] <gordonjcp> wilee-nilee: simply saying "there's a bug" isn't actually that helpful
[19:41] <gordonjcp> wilee-nilee: what's *really* helpful is if people can find bugs in the bug tracker and see if they work
[19:41] <gordonjcp> "yeah, I get that too"
[19:42] <grandal_prime> im listening on port 123 thats correct right?
[19:43] <wilee-nilee> gordonjcp, I will agree to disagree here, I'm not a CSM I have other interests I'm not bound by any moral sense but to follow the studies I am doing right now, not a forced you should do this from anthers personal reality. ;)
[19:43] <Sebastia> I need to get some basic company questions answered for my bachelor thesis which discusses open source software companies...
[19:44] <wilee-nilee> gordonjcp, I have over 12000 posts on the UF helping under 3 different nicks, separately of course, who knows how many here I have helped the community.
[19:44] <grandal_prime> i dont see anything on that port
[19:44] <xangua> Sebastia: you know this is a Comunitty suport channel right¿
[19:44] <gordonjcp> wilee-nilee: see?  You *are* contributing ;-)
[19:45] <MonkeyDust> Sebastia  type /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:45] <Sebastia> yeah but I wasn't sure where to start! can you recommend one?
[19:45] <Sebastia> ah thank you! I will try there!
[19:45] <alusion> Is there a way to setup a preview column with ubuntus default file explorer?
[19:45] <MonkeyDust> Sebastia  a friend of mine has written an academic paper about open source, some years ago
[19:45] <wilee-nilee> gordonjcp, YES that is why I am offended slightly when others say you should do this when I have done a lot already under the guise that works for me.
[19:46] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[19:46] <Sebastia> @MonkeyDust: Thank you! I already wrote an email to the press team but got no answer yet
[19:46] <wilee-nilee> any on to W7 to write papers
[19:48] <Advocated> Hi there, i'm doing an rsync on a server, ive just looked at it remotely and its showing as 3 occurences of it running(via ps aux | grep rsync)  is that normal?
[19:49] <FlipShaw> Advocated: Do they all look exactly the same or is there any destinguealbe difference
[19:50] <maysara> Hi, anyone know how to activate hibernation?
[19:50] <Advocated> FlipShaw, all look exactly the same :s
[19:50] <MonkeyDust> maysara  http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/enable-hibernation-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[19:51] <chemaher76> Good because my problem is out the following: I have an HP ProBook 4510s and several times I installed Xubuntu 12.04 LTS. I usually play a game called Spiral Knights that can be played perfectly on Linux, but nose if it's CPU or GPU but soon overheats and the laptop is turned off, only happens in Linux in Windows does not happen to unless you take many hours of play. A friend told me that Linux uses more CPU for Windows games that
[19:51] <chemaher76> is based more on graphics and can pull that's the problem. Perhaps with an energy saving program or something could fix the problem, a greeting.
[19:51] <maysara> MonkeyDust, thx a lot
[19:52] <nsudo>  cant delete on hfs partition on ububtu
[19:52] <Sazpaimon_> is 2.6.32 EOL yet?
[19:53] <Advocated> FlipShaw, whats that mean then?
[19:53] <Ganharb> Hey guys... im about 3 days into the ubuntu experience lol doing all the wine stuff so i can play wow and ive decided i miss windows... atleast as far as playing wow goes.. now i no longer have windows on my pc and i was wondering if theres a very small version of windows i can put on a partition for wow only ... is there a term for this? because i dont even know what to google.
[19:53] <ThinkT510> Sazpaimon_: what are you running that on?
[19:53] <vvpalin> nsudo, smash said harddrive with hammer = deleted hfs partition
[19:53] <MonkeyDust> Ganharb  better ask in ##windows
[19:53] <FlipShaw> Advocated: Can you show me the output for the processes
[19:53] <Advocated> yeah, sec
[19:54] <nsudo> vvpalin u are not helping
[19:54] <Sazpaimon_> ThinkT510, nothing now, just wondering
[19:54] <gordonjcp> nsudo: hfs support is a bit spotty
[19:54] <ThinkT510> Sazpaimon_: lucid supports it
[19:54] <nsudo> gordonjcp i am able to read though
[19:54] <Advocated> FlipShaw, http://pastebin.com/vLexEPbg
[19:55] <Sazpaimon_> last release of 2.6.32 was .59 which was a few months ago, just curious if that was probably the last release
[19:55] <gordonjcp> nsudo: yup
[19:55] <roberto> grandal_prime, no ntpq <enter>
[19:55] <MonkeyDust> Sazpaimon_  of what program exactly?
[19:55] <roberto> then pe
[19:55] <gordonjcp> nsudo: the filesystem may be mounted read-only
[19:55] <Sazpaimon_> MonkeyDust, kernel
[19:55] <MonkeyDust> oh
[19:55] <gordonjcp> nsudo: my HFS+ partition is borked at the moment and will *only* mount read-only
[19:55] <nsudo> gordonjcp how to make it the other way
[19:56] <FlipShaw> Advocated: This doesn't look right, I believe those are all copies
[19:56] <MonkeyDust> 3.2.0-31 here
[19:56] <nsudo> gordonjcp cool
[19:57] <Advocated> FlipShaw, yeah i;m thinking so too, i might kill them all and start them from here. I have a query though. i started that rsync at work, im cancelling it from home and will start it again from home, will it be slower?
[19:57] <guntbert> roberto: for reference: ntpq -p   will do the same  :)
[19:57] <ThinkT510> Sazpaimon_: 10.04 uses 2.6.32 so its supported until 10.04 is eol
[19:59] <FlipShaw> Advocated: It should not be noticably slower.  But refer to this article quickly, I've used it to my benefit many times http://sun3.org/archives/280
[20:00] <roberto> grandal_prime,  guntbert, thanks. Have to go, hope someone can help out.
[20:00] <grandal_prime> roberto.  yes there is ntpq
[20:00] <grandal_prime>  e does nothing
[20:00] <maysara> Is there a way to move the bar on the left to bottom?
[20:00] <Advocated> FlipShaw, thanks ill look. you know for bwlimit=whatever  how do i know what I can use as a max?
[20:00] <ThinkT510> maysara: not supported
[20:00] <grandal_prime> by the way i just realized the hardware time was correct.
[20:00] <grandal_prime> the system time wasnt though
[20:00] <grandal_prime> werid
[20:01] <caydeesoft> ubuntu 12.04 has bugs lyk several....
[20:02] <sayers> Anyone from Cyprus ?
[20:02] <sw> !cy
[20:02] <sw> aparently not
[20:02] <xxSnIp3rxx> caydeesoft: yep.. namely the wireless drivers
[20:03] <guntbert> grandal_prime: did you see https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/NTP.html ?
[20:03] <FlipShaw> Advocated: You could check the man page, but let me see what I get on mine really quick
[20:04] <FlipShaw> Advocated:It looks like it is only limited by your network settings, its in Kilobytes per second
[20:05] <Advocated> FlipShaw, so if i don't specify anything, its not going to kill my server is it?
[20:05] <MonkeyDust> sayers  turkish or greek?
[20:05] <genii-around> sayers: Depending on language could use perhaps !tr or !gr
[20:06] <sayers> greek of course
[20:06] <MonkeyDust> !gr
[20:06] <sayers> I was looking for local people not greek/cypriot channels, m8
[20:06] <grandal_prime> guntbert, yes that is what im following to set this up
[20:07] <grandal_prime> i also get to those servers and get data back from them
[20:07] <grandal_prime> the time straigt up just does not set right
[20:07] <ThinkT510> sayers: you are more likely to find them there
[20:07] <grandal_prime> 13:05:20.624324 IP <IP_ADDRESS>.123 > <IP_ADDRESS>.123: NTPv4, Client, length 48
[20:07] <sayers> :)
[20:07] <guntbert> grn
[20:07] <grandal_prime> 13:05:20.713619 IP <IP_ADDRESS>.123 > <IP_ADDRESS>.123: NTPv4, Server, length 48
[20:07] <grandal_prime> thats the return traffic
[20:07] <genii-around> sayers: #ubuntu-cy does exist, it's for the LoCo team for Cyprus.
[20:08] <grandal_prime> the request goes out..comes back..box does nothing with it
[20:08] <grandal_prime> its werd
[20:08] <guntbert> grandal_prime: I suggest you stop your ntpd for a moment, then use ntpdate to jump to the correct time and then restart ntpd
[20:08] <FlipShaw> Advocated: No, but if you are worried about it, just pass the command with --bwlimit={how ever much bandwith you can afford to give to it}
[20:08] <sayers> loco team ? i'm not quiet sure that football team exist in our league
[20:09] <Advocated> FlipShaw, i need to rsync 200gb, it was at 500kb but it wasnt doing a lot very fast lol, but i dont wanna set it too much
[20:09] <grandal_prime> if i install ntpdate, ntp will not work
[20:09] <guntbert> !who | grandal_prime
[20:10] <guntbert> grandal_prime: no, it is the other way round: you cannot use ntpdate while ntpd is running
[20:10] <KM0201> grandal_prime: did you update the ntpd.conf?
[20:10] <grandal_prime> KM0201, yes
[20:10] <FlipShaw> Advocated: For me to make a good decision I need to know what both Internet connection speeds run at and what the speed of both networks is; but if you don't want to type all that, just try 256, that's not alot for todays netoworks
[20:10] <KM0201> hmm
[20:11] <KM0201> grandal_prime: pastebin the contents of ntp.conf
[20:11] <grandal_prime> ntp service is off
[20:11] <FlipShaw> Advocated: Sorry, I mean 128
[20:11] <grandal_prime>  ntpdate[13083]: no servers can be used, exiting
[20:12] <guntbert> grandal_prime: listen to KM0201
[20:12] <Advocated> FlipShaw, 128KB?
[20:13] <FlipShaw> Advocated: That's what I would do with my network specs, that's why it is hard to give you a good estimate, alot of variables; but yest.  Just pass rsync saying --bwlimit=128
[20:13] <Advocated> FlipShaw, but 128kbps surely for 200GB is going to take weeks?
[20:15] <FlipShaw> Advocated: My mistake, very sorry.  You're best bet is to just leave it default, default is no limit
[20:15] <bekks> Advocated: 151 days ;)
[20:17] <Advocated> bekks, lol, how can i work it out, ie 200gb / whatever kbps = how many hours? or what kinda speed would I need to run it at to do it in say 8 hours?
[20:18] <FlipShaw> Advocated: It would be 6.5 MBytes per second
[20:18] <Advocated> ahh, i should be able todo that no problem I think
[20:19] <FlipShaw> Advocated:Sorry, no, its 7.1mbyte per sec
[20:19] <sayers> I purchased earlier today (around 6:00 pm) wired router TP-Link R402M and I just plug the ether rj45 cable and everything is running normally. Is it normal that in linux to plug some device without the necessary(rity) to install/compile the drivers ?
[20:19] <Advocated> FlipShaw, how u calculating that?
[20:19] <bekks> Advocated: 200GB = 200*1024*1024 MB = 200*(1024^4) Byte = 8*200*(1024^4) Bit ...
[20:19] <grandal_prime> guntbert, i pointed it to a diff ntp server
[20:19] <bekks> Advocated: And 128 kBps = 128*1024 Bit per second.
[20:21] <BluesKaj> sayers, ethernet is mostly plug and play on ubuntu  now unless you have some exotic router
[20:21] <guntbert> grandal_prime: what happens now? please !pastebin your /etc/ntp.conf
[20:21] <sayers> Sounds that I could throw the CD drivers ... sweet ! Thanks dude :)
[20:22] <BluesKaj> sayers, keep in case you install wndows on a another partition or pc
[20:23] <guntbert> grandal_prime: and while you are at it please pastebin the output of ntpq -p as well
[20:23] <FlipShaw> Advocated: I just divided the total data needed to copy by the amount of hours you wanted to copy it, divided by minutes than by seconds
[20:23] <Advocated> ahh oh yeah, my brain isnt working, tired++ but thanks for the help FlipShaw, bekks
[20:24] <FlipShaw> Advocated: I did it all in bytes too, so I might have gotten messed up, but it should be fine! :) Math can be one of my fallys
[20:24] <JuanoPsy> please some help, My ubuntu 12.04 LTS is crashing randomly every 10 minutes or so, mostly whith firefox, or when runing 3 or more softwares at the same time, or when heavy loaded like, facebook, banshee, inkscape, something else at the same time, but also if I run only "some" movies it crashes... the crash is always the same, full freeze, mouse, keyboard, screen, and the last bit of sound repeating in a infinite loop... my system p
[20:24] <sayers> Okay , great tip .
[20:25] <boldfilter1> JuanoPsy: Sucks bro
[20:25] <JuanoPsy> System specs are: Intel® Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.40GHz (says x2 but is only one), 32-bit, 937,2 MiB Ram, Graphics Gallium 0.4 on ATI RV370
[20:26] <JuanoPsy> boldfilterl: what you mean ?
[20:28] <ejo> JuanoPsy: First suspects might be memory, video driver, power supply...
[20:29] <genii-around> Yes, 1G of ram is pretty slim. Might be hitting a bad area on the swap partition or some other similar issue.
[20:29] <BluesKaj> JuanoPsy,, not a lot of memory there
[20:30] <harovali> hi, I'm in gnome , using evolution, and it asks me for the keyring password to unlock it, and I forgot which password goes there, I have root access to the machine, how can I change the keyring password?
[20:30] <JuanoPsy> ejo, but if is memory, how do I fix it?
[20:30] <genii-around> JuanoPsy: Should probably run memtest from the boot-up screen to see if it is your memory
[20:31] <JuanoPsy> I know is not much memory..
[20:31] <JuanoPsy> ok, mem test
[20:31] <NiteRain> Having a issue with php curl not working over https
[20:32] <NiteRain> should I just compile it from source?
[20:33] <niksSsSssssssS> hello everyone
[20:33]  * niksSsSssssssS Does anyone knows how can i fix wicd (connect-disconnecting) on bt5?
[20:33] <genii-around> JuanoPsy: If your ram ends up with no errors after memtest runs,  I suggest to unmount your swap partition and run badblocks  on it to see if it's physically going.
[20:34] <bergelmir> i just removed 'gnome-games' which uninstalled 'gnome-desktop-environment' but now apt wants to uninstall hundrets of packages too...
[20:34] <MonkeyDust> niksSsSssssssS  type /join #backtrack-linux, it is not supported here
[20:34] <niksSsSssssssS> oh ok MonkeyDust  ty
[20:35] <JuanoPsy> genii-around: sorry, what you mean by unmount my swap partition?
[20:35] <bergelmir> i don't know if it is okay to uninstall all these packages. some of them sounds like i still need them.
[20:37] <BluesKaj> bergelmir, don't remove them . you'can't remove some apps with uninstalling the whole desktop
[20:37] <genii-around> JuanoPsy: When programs run out of physical ram that your computer has, it starts to use disk space as if it is more ram. The disk space is called swap. Most times people have a separate partition for this. If you type: grep swap /etc/fstab   it should tell you what partition it is using for that.
[20:38] <BluesKaj> bergelmir, are you using software center od apt ?
[20:38] <BluesKaj> or
[20:38] <BluesKaj> apt-get
[20:38] <bergelmir> BluesKaj: apt-get
[20:39] <devish> i run dual boot and i need to install windows again but this will leave the grub broken....how can i recover my ubuntu /grub after fresh window install?
[20:39] <JuanoPsy> genii-around: man thx... I'll try that...
[20:39] <BluesKaj> bergelmir, answer no , if it's asking if you want to remove those packages
[20:40] <bergelmir> yeah, everything is fine again, but isn't there a way to uninstall or hide the games!?
[20:41] <JuanoPsy> genii-around: It returns "/host/ubuntu/disks/swap.disk none            swap    loop,sw         0       0"
[20:41] <genii-around> JuanoPsy: First you do: sudo swapoff -a     Then you run the badblocks program on it to see if it's physically failing. If it is, you have to find another place to use for swap. You can put swap back on by: sudo swapon -a
[20:42] <genii-around> JuanoPsy: So in this case you are using a file for swap and not a partition
[20:42] <genii-around> JuanoPsy: You are using Wubi ?
[20:43] <JuanoPsy> yes, I was going to tell I'm on wubi
[20:43] <BluesKaj> bergelmir, now install the gnome-desktop-environment , because if you don't, on the next boot you won't have a desktop
[20:44] <adwaitnd> have to install the android SDK on ubuntu 12.04 64 bit for a system located behng an authenticated http proxy. SDK manager always fails to load packages to install.
[20:45] <JuanoPsy> genii-around: yes, I was going to tell I'm on wubi
[20:46] <bergelmir> BluesKaj: everthing is fine again :)
[20:46] <BluesKaj> bergelmir, did you reboot ?
[20:46] <bergelmir> BluesKaj: nope
[20:47] <bustacap> Does anyone know if I can save the fan speed for my nvidia gpu so it applies itself on boot?
[20:47] <BluesKaj> bergelmir, hope you installed the desktop like I suggested
[20:48] <bergelmir> BluesKaj: yep ;)
[20:48] <BluesKaj> bergelmir, good :)
[20:48] <genii-around> JuanoPsy: Unfortunately I am not very familiar with Wubi. But my first suspicion here is that you don't have enough ram.
[20:48] <bergelmir> BluesKaj: apt-get is not mentioning any packages
[20:49] <adwaitnd> bustacap: if you installed the nvidia drivers, there should be an option in the nvidia X-server settings to define fan speeds. Once set in there, its stored.
[20:49] <escapeplan> I need help with getting my fluidsynthplugin to work in Tuxguitar !
[20:49] <BluesKaj> bergelmir, the commands aren't entirely finished until the next reboot , sort of like windows update
[20:50] <bustacap> adwaitnd, It's not saved on boot, everything besides fan speed stays.
[20:50] <orated> Hello! I've two sound cards listed after issuing cat /proc/asound/cards -- one on-board, other USB audio. How can I make USB audio as default card from command line?
[20:50] <bustacap> adwaitnd, each boot I need to re-click I agree on their warning about adjusting fan speeds lol.
[20:50] <JuanoPsy> genii-around:  shure, thanks anyway... I'm tring to learn how to do the badblock test... and I'll see...
[20:51] <anomaly> I do not need text to speech, like festival.  I just want basic voice recognition so I could like "open terminal".   anything out there worthwhile?  I can not seem to get much info on julius or simon.
[20:51] <adwaitnd> bustacap: how about starting x server settings using sudo?
[20:51] <genii-around> JuanoPsy: I'm not sure if badblocks will work on a file.
[20:52] <BluesKaj> orated, have you set them up in phonon yet ?
[20:53] <orated> BluesKaj: Hey, no I'm not sure how to do that
[20:53] <JuanoPsy> genii-around: Ohhh....
[20:55] <JuanoPsy> genii-around:  May be if I install the ubuntu on the computer fixes the problem?
[20:55] <genii-around> JuanoPsy: You might want to run the chdsk C: /f      on your main drive from inside Window's command prompt to make sure your ntfs is OK.
[20:56] <bergelmir> damn, how to stop a script that is starting itself?
[20:56] <bergelmir> can't kill them fast enough :(
[20:56] <black_joe> What is the name of the script bergelmir?
[20:57] <MonkeyDust> bergelmir  open a new terminal window, pkill the script name
[20:57] <bergelmir> 20575  0.0  0.0  17984  1384 ?        S    22:57   0:00 /bin/bash /home/jan/Games/ftlgame/FTL
[20:57] <genii-around> JuanoPsy: It is possible. Might want to look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How_do_I_migrate_to_a_real_partition.2C_and.2BAC8-or_get_rid_of_Windows_entirely.3F   if you want to move the wubi install to a real partition.   I've kept the right permissions and everthing but I just breaks everytime.
[20:58]  * genii-around sips and ponders the bergelmir forkbomb
[20:58] <bergelmir> while killing some of them, others are already spawning new processes
[20:58] <JuanoPsy> genii-around: Yeahh.. shure... but I think I have dual boot...
[20:59] <usr13> _0x783czar: Why not just edit it with visudo ?
[21:00] <bergelmir> genii-around: hmm :D
[21:00] <_0x783czar> usr13: I'm doing server automation accross a large number of servers.  So that's out of the question
[21:00] <genii-around> bergelmir: What does the process belong to or do? If it has some entry in /etc/init  or /etc/init.d you could try stopping it that way with sudo stop <name> or sudo /etc/init.d/<name> stop
[21:00] <_0x783czar> usr13: however, if I do use visudo everything works fine
[21:00] <usr13> _0x783czar: I see.
[21:01] <bergelmir> genii-around: is there a way to break out of this infinite loop without restarting my computer?
[21:02] <usr13> _0x783czar: but I do not see how it could be that much harder.
[21:02] <genii-around> bergelmir: Without knowing exacty what's causing it to start, hard to know what to kill/stop
[21:02] <_0x783czar> usr13: how would I use visudo do do it in a script?
[21:02] <genii-around> bergelmir: What's the processes full name?
[21:02] <usr13> _0x783czar: You wouldn't.
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> bergelmir  or killall ftl*
[21:03] <_0x783czar> usr13: are you suggesting manually editing visudo on every machine?
[21:03] <bergelmir> $0 $0
[21:04] <genii-around> MonkeyDust: He's grepping for FTL but that might not be the full name
[21:04] <usr13> _0x783czar: You mean sudoers.  But clearly, your method requires reconsideration/repair.
[21:04] <auronandace> faster than light grep, now that i gotta see
[21:05] <bergelmir> yeah, got them all killed :)
[21:05] <_0x783czar> usr13: in what way?  This method works on other distros, so I'm wondering what would be causing my problem on ubuntu.
[21:08] <EvilAngel> does linux support ssd trim out of the box?
[21:08] <_0x783czar> usr13: do you have any suggestions?  because I can't manually edit sudoers through visudo on every machine.
[21:09] <dr_willis> EvilAngel: i think most distros do these dats
[21:09] <dr_willis> days
[21:09] <m0nster> hello ...im looking for some help
[21:10] <_0x783czar> m0nster: in what way?
[21:10] <m0nster> i installed ubuntu using wubi... and my keyboard and mouse wouldnt work when i booted into it
[21:10] <m0nster> im in the process of downloading ubuntu desktop iso...
[21:11] <m0nster> was gonna try to install the kubuntu... but it couldnt do it in wubi... saw some where on google saying to try to install kde insstead
[21:11] <MonkeyDust> wubi :(
[21:11] <m0nster> but i also want to install ubuntu alongside my windows 7
[21:11] <m0nster> and not lose ANYTHING
[21:11] <MonkeyDust> m0nster  that's the correct way
[21:12] <dr_willis> the wubi installer should have download the iso.
[21:12] <BluesKaj> !dualboot | m0nster
[21:12] <MonkeyDust> m0nster  if you have a partition large enough to install ubuntu
[21:13] <m0nster> i do... 500gb
[21:13] <bergelmir> thank you guys! need some sleep now ;)
[21:13] <woot-0854> what is a irc channel for music?
[21:13] <kydan> hey guys, Im trying to get a bit of help with a bash script I am modifying. I am getting the following errors for some BC stuff that is being run. (standard_in) 2: syntax error (standard_in) 1: syntax error. http://pastebin.com/xvgR8xEX for the code that I believe is in question.
[21:13] <MonkeyDust> m0nster  nice, tip: create a separate /home partition
[21:14] <MonkeyDust> woot-0854  type /msg alis list *music*
[21:14] <kydan> I am not super familiar with bash scripting so I really have no idea whats up, especially since another section of it that runs for another var seems to be working fine.
[21:14] <myersg> how do I block Mumble from a router?
[21:15] <kydan> myersg: you want to prevent mumble from being used on a network?
[21:15] <m0nster> thing is im a lameman when it comes to anything partitioning
[21:15] <myersg> yes
[21:15] <m0nster> thats why i liked wubi
[21:15] <kydan> myersg: clients from using it I assume.
[21:16] <myersg> so do you know how?
[21:16] <woot-0854> thanks MonkeyDust
[21:16] <m0nster> Traceback (most recent call last):
[21:16] <m0nster>   File "\lib\wubi\application.py", line 58, in run
[21:16] <m0nster>   File "\lib\wubi\application.py", line 132, in select_task
[21:16] <m0nster>   File "\lib\wubi\application.py", line 158, in run_installer
[21:16] <m0nster>   File "\lib\wubi\backends\common\tasklist.py", line 197, in __call__
[21:16] <m0nster>   File "\lib\wubi\backends\common\backend.py", line 595, in get_iso
[21:16] <m0nster>   File "\lib\wubi\backends\common\backend.py", line 406, in download_iso
[21:16] <FloodBot1> m0nster: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:17] <kydan> myersg: well, Im not quite sure that its possible with consumer hardware
[21:17] <myersg> hmm...
[21:17] <luist> where do i get libquazip.so.1 for ubuntu??
[21:17] <woot-0854> MonkeyDust, I seem to have failed at doing that any meta I miss?
[21:17] <myersg> I have a dlink router setup..
[21:19] <kydan> myersg: if you know the IP's of the mumble server you could do that
[21:19] <myersg> of the mumble server that they use?
[21:19] <MonkeyDust> woot-0854  about 40 music channel, type /msg alis list *music*
[21:19] <kydan> myersg: yes
[21:19] <genii-around> luist: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=libquazip.so.1&mode=exactfilename&suite=precise&arch=any Package search for that file does not show it existing in any package from official repositories.
[21:20] <myersg> how do I find that out?
[21:22] <rtcg> I've been trying various steps suggested on many a google search but I'm still unable to get 10.04 to see my Intell 1e20 sound card.    aplay -l  returns only "no soundcards found..."
[21:23] <rtcg> can someone suggest the proper approach to get this working on 10.04?
[21:23] <MonkeyDust> rtcg  consider upgrading to 12.04
[21:23] <rtcg> Not an option in this case.
[21:23] <rtcg> custom app requires this version of ubuntu.
[21:23] <rtcg> or rather.   Programmers/support staff require this version of ubuntu.
[21:25] <gordonjcp> rtcg: looks like you'd need a newer kernel
[21:25] <gordonjcp> rtcg: which isn't going to happen in an LTS
[21:25] <rtcg> Is it a kernel driver that is missing?   or is it that modprobe isn't finding the driver?
[21:26] <zykotick9> rtcg: lucid was based off debian squeeze.  you could also try searching online if anyone has your intel sound card model (and it isn't 1e20) working in current debian stable (aka squeeze)
[21:26] <gordonjcp> well modprobe would find it if it was there
[21:26] <myersg> how do I do it with the Ip?
[21:26] <jrib> rtcg: well, there are some backported kernels in the repositories... see if they make a difference
[21:26] <gordonjcp> rtcg: do they actually need the sound card?
[21:27] <rtcg> I asked twice.   They do in fact need the sound driver to make the computer send an audible alarm.
[21:27] <gordonjcp> rtcg: then go on eBay and buy a cheap USB sound adaptor
[21:27] <jrib> rtcg: use the pc speaker
[21:27] <gordonjcp> rtcg: seriously, how much is your time worth?
[21:27] <jrib> rtcg: more seriously, see if the linux-image-generic-lts-backport-oneiric kernel makes a difference
[21:27] <rtcg> Kernel driver, backported kernels,  squeeze....    Someone needs to get on the ball and update their software (which probably doesn't need updating)
[21:28] <rtcg> Just support the upgraded version...sheesh!
[21:28] <gordonjcp> rtcg: try it and see
[21:29] <kydan> myersg: well, I am assuming you dont know who is using mumble, so if you know their IP you could use wireshark to sniff the traffic on their IP and see where they are connecting and figure out what the IP is from that.
[21:29] <gordonjcp> what *is* this magic custom software, anyway?
[21:29] <kydan> myersg: but thats fairly involved
[21:29] <rtcg> I don't have the luxury of trying it at this moment, but thank you for the suggestions.
[21:29] <rtcg> phone PBX call center software.
[21:29] <myersg> I know the servers IP now.
[21:29] <myersg> here is a demo of the router I am using: http://support.dlink.com/emulators/dir601/100NA/login.html
[21:31] <kydan> myersg: http://support.dlink.com/emulators/dir601/100NA/adv_access_control.html
[21:31] <kydan> enable access control and then build a policy that blocks traffic to that IP
[21:31] <myersg> thank you I will try
[21:32] <kydan> myersg: yep np. I got to go, goo luck
[21:32] <kydan> good*
[21:32] <Hapz> so i have this thing that collapses windows of the same program
[21:32] <Hapz> i want 10 icons for 10 terminals, not 1 for all of them
[21:32] <Hapz> how the hell do i remove that stupid feature
[21:36] <dr_willis> its not stupid.
[21:37] <alusion> how do I preview files with nautilus?
[21:38] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/157849/is-it-possible-to-preview-arbitrary-formats-in-nautilus
[21:39] <alusion> I think I will just install dolphin lol
[21:39] <dr_willis> gloobus-preview   is a neat addon
[21:39] <dr_willis> !info gloobus-preview
[21:39] <dr_willis> https://launchpad.net/gloobus
[21:39] <gillo> ! shoppingOS
[21:40] <alusion> btw dr_willis, I was installing debian and accidently overwrote my windows partition with an encrypted partition -- is there a possibility of recovering my data?
[21:40] <dr_willis> alusion:  i would be suprised if it was possible.  #windows may know.
[21:41] <JasonF> If I'm automatically doing some things to a server, is there a way to force apt/aptitude to never give me the "keep/replace/examine" dialog box on a conflicted file?
[21:42] <zykotick9> JasonF: 1) i hope not.  2) don't use aptitude with 12.04 (see "/msg ubottu aptitude" for confirmation)
[21:42] <JasonF> zykotick9: so you'
[21:42] <Guddu> s
[21:43] <JasonF> zykotick9: you're telling there's no way to disable that dialog box? To pre-make the decision?
[21:43] <JasonF> zykotick9: fwiw, I was using apt in all those cases.
[21:43] <zykotick9> JasonF: there might be... i just hope not.
[21:43] <olga__> i am have some problems whith grafic in wine. Enter to my PM plias somebody.
[21:43] <JasonF> Well, I hope you're wrong?
[21:43] <dr_willis> JasonF:  i imagine there is.
[21:43] <sveinse> When precisely does the ubuntu kernel apply the vga= command line parameter? I've set it, but it still boots the first half of the kernel startup in 80x24 mode
[21:44] <dr_willis> olga__:  just state the issue. dont ask for pm's . theres also #winehq
[21:53] <dr_willis> Hmmm
[21:54] <olga__> i am have some problems whith grafic in wine. Enter to my PM plias somebody.
[21:54] <dr_willis> olga__:  just state the issue. dont ask for pm's . theres also #winehq
[21:54] <dr_willis> and 'enter my pm' dosent really make sence. ;)
[21:55] <olga__> sorry my enlish is poore
 i have scrin whith my problem))
[21:56] <HypothesisFrog> ecadre is that so?
[21:57] <MonkeyDust> olga__  are you russian?
 yes? but nobudy in ruus chat codn't help me
[22:00] <validus> Hi, I'd like some help with Advanced Format on the WD Drives?
[22:00] <leo-unglaub> hey, i just wanted to try 12.10 but i can't find any alternate images
[22:00] <leo-unglaub> where are they?
[22:01] <Hapz> dr_willis so you have an idea?
[22:01] <upset> I downloaded source code with bzr branch.... but I don't know where it went....
[22:01] <MonkeyDust> leo-unglaub  better ask in #ubuntu+1
[22:01] <leo-unglaub> MonkeyDust: okay, thx
[22:01] <upset> Where does bzr material go by default
[22:02] <Jordan_U> validus: We can't help you until you actually ask a question :)
[22:03] <dr_willis> leo-unglaub:  i was thinking with 12.10+ they were going desktop only. but im not sure if that was just a possbility, or allready been decided
[22:03] <dr_willis> leo-unglaub:  ask in #ubuntu+1
[22:03] <HypothesisFrog> dr_willis you mean no official server edition?
[22:03] <leo-unglaub> dr_willis: already did
[22:03] <leo-unglaub> thx
[22:04] <dr_willis> HypothesisFrog:  i dont pay attention to server news really.
[22:04] <JasonF> For anyone in the future reading IRC logs with my problem: Just export DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive
[22:04] <dr_willis> I was thinking the alternative installer got rolled into the desktop edition, or somthing like that.
[22:04] <JasonF> or apt-get install debconf-docs; man 7 debconf
[22:04] <dr_willis> JasonF:  the man pages pay off. ;)
[22:05] <JasonF> dr_willis: only when you know what to man
[22:05] <JasonF> dr_willis: almost always when I come to IRC, I'm just looking for the word to toss into google
[22:05] <JasonF> :P
[22:05] <validus> Okay, my problem is almost identical to this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/103855/partition-is-misaligned-by-3072-bytes-pavilion-dv7-6199us
[22:06] <upset> Can no one help me understand baazar and launchpad?
[22:07] <MonkeyDust> upset  why use it if you don't know what it is?
[22:07] <Kingsy> guys, is there a resource you can check when looking for ppa's? reputable ppas at that.. no doubt there are alot that are no longer maintained etc..
[22:07] <rtcg> It's amazing what one can do when one removes one's brain from between their butt-cheeks!
[22:08] <TheLordOfTime> heh
[22:08] <designbybeck> I dont see a 1GB nVIDIA Quadro 2000 on the Ubuntu Hardware list... might it still be supported?
[22:08] <rtcg> Thank you guys!  aplay now shows a sound card.  I'm back to regular sound setup issues now.
[22:08] <upset> MonkeyDust: Wow, courtesy is not your strong suit
[22:08] <upset> MonkeyDust: Is it not a program for downloading, modifying, and uploading software to and from Launchpad?
[22:10] <Jordan_U> validus: So Windows' installer created misaligned partitions?
[22:10] <validus> No...
[22:11] <validus> jordan: i installed ubuntu from the start, there is a misaligned sector error
[22:11] <validus> it says in disk utility:
[22:11] <validus> WARNING: The partition is misaligned by 1024 bytes. This may result in very poor performance. Repartitioning is suggested.
[22:12] <validus> its something to do with Western Digital HDs and their 4KiB sectors
[22:12] <upset> I can't execute "bzr builddeb lp:agenda-tasks"  because it says there's no changelog
[22:12] <Jordan_U> validus: Are you dual booting Ubuntu and Windows? Which partition does disk utility say is misaligned?
[22:12] <rtcg> A decent tap with a hammer should align it.
[22:12] <validus> jordan: no i am not
[22:12] <upset> rtcg Everyone's a comedian
[22:13] <validus> jordan: the extended partition
[22:13] <Jordan_U> validus: Ubuntu's installer is specifically designed to achieve optimal allignment when it does automatic partitioning. Did you use automatic partitioning when installing Ubuntu?
[22:13] <validus> jordan: yep
[22:14] <validus> fresh install on my new system
[22:14] <Jordan_U> validus: Please use my full nick (Jordan_U) or I may miss your messages. You can use the tab key to auto-complete nicks.
[22:14] <jesseFromYVR> I'd like to access my routers web server admin page from a remote computer.   Can anyone describe/point to a tutorial that will tell me how to do this? I'm guessing the approach would be some kind of ssh tunnel.
[22:14] <dr_willis> you may want to pastebin the output of 'sudo fdisk -l' validus
[22:15] <validus> Jordan_U: Okay cool
[22:15] <dr_willis> jesseFromYVR:  easier way would be to use SSH's X forwarding feature and run a browser on the server. but have it appear locally.
[22:15] <rtcg> jesseFromYVR: Some routers have external management that you can enable.  You can also create a NAT entry in your router to go to the correct internal router's management URL.
[22:15] <dr_willis> My router has a access anywhere feature/account thing. :)
[22:16] <validus> Jordan_U: one second
[22:16] <rp2> ssh -L8080:ocalhost:80 user@webserver
[22:16] <rp2> but with an extra l in there
[22:17] <rp2> should do the trick (or similar)
[22:17] <rp2> if the sshd config doesn't disable -L
[22:17] <p5000> hi
[22:17] <rp2> p5000: ho
[22:18] <jesseFromYVR> thanks for the suggestions… I guess more generally, is it possible to connect to remote LAN in a way that you can connect to the remote LAN's computers using their 192.168. addresses
[22:18] <rp2> Jordan_U: nifty. I had no idea I could use TAB to autocomplete nicks. thanks
[22:19] <rp2> jesseFromYVR: that isn't entirely clear to me
[22:19] <validus> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/iW44bMsK
[22:19] <dr_willis> jesseFromYVR:  i think that is basically what a 'vpn' is.
[22:19] <Jordan_U> rp2: You're welcome :)
[22:19] <rp2> but it could also be what 'NAT' is
[22:19] <rp2> please be more specific
[22:20] <dr_willis> out of the lan to the outside world would be a NAT.   from what im 'thinking' :)
[22:20] <gurkee> Hello! I installed munin-node on my 12.04 server -- however `start munin-node` as well as `stop munin-node` hang. I have to kill them. Running `munin-node` works just fine.
[22:20] <dr_willis> to the whole lan as if you were connected physically to it..  sounds like how vpn's work to me. but i rarely do this advanced stuff
[22:22] <dr_willis> gurkee:  you mean you run it as a user and it works?
[22:22] <gurkee> dr_willis: as root, yes
[22:23] <TheLordOfTime> gurkee, "root" is different than what we mean by "user"
[22:23] <gurkee> dr_willis: somehow the upstart scripts are irritated. what are they waiting for? as I say, start as well as stop just hangs and does not return
[22:23] <Asad> anyone know a GUI text diff? not file diff, but text diff .. as in paste two text blocks and get diff .. ?
[22:23] <TheLordOfTime> Asad, diff file1 file2 > file, and then you open that new file up in gedit or something?
[22:24] <TheLordOfTime> or are you looking for a side-by-side diff compare?
[22:24] <jesseFromYVR> rp2: I'm in LAN A. The router's webpage I want to access is in LAN B, with address 192.168.A.B … I'd like to be able to 'join' LAN A, from a computer in LAN B, so that I can type address 192.168.A.B in my web browser and access  the routers admin page
[22:24] <gurkee> TheLordOfTime: aye :) however, in this case we are clear. I think I have to somehow reset the service state of munin-node so that upstart thinks it is not running.
[22:25] <gurkee> dr_willis: also, munin-node is by default configured in a way that it runs as root
[22:25] <jesseFromYVR> er.. scratch the first sentence "I'm in LAN A" … makes the statement more confusing
[22:26] <OerHeks> jesseFromYVR, make an DMZ connection, sometime works to acces the router setup
[22:26] <rp2> jesseFromYVR: ugh - looks like a chicken & egg problem. the router will have to let you through somehow
[22:26] <like_> omg scrip`ppp
[22:26] <gurkee> dr_willis, TheLordOfTime: what my question mainly is: what could the upstart script be waiting for? I have no idea at which point it waits for something if it does not even find a running process during `stop` action.
[22:26] <validus> Jordan_U: Any idea??
[22:27] <rp2> doyou knowanythign about the router's configuration or on what services are available on LAN B  machines. like, can you get through with ssh?
[22:28] <jesseFromYVR> rp2: I have set up port forwarding to allow ssh access to LAN B
[22:28] <Jordan_U> validus: It's only your swap partition which is misaligned, so you should be able to delete it and re-create it with GParted (from a LiveCD/USB, the standard Ubuntu Live image contains Gparted) and GParted should align it properly.
[22:28] <jesseFromYVR> so I could do the VNC.. but I find it laggy
[22:29] <validus> Jordan_U: I don't mind doing a fresh install as my setup is only a few days old
[22:29] <rp2> jesseFromYVR: you don't need VnC to access a web server ... forward the webserver's port (router:80)
[22:29] <validus> Jordan_U: So how do you recommend I go about doing that from scratch?
[22:30] <rp2> ssh -L 8888:router:80 user@lanBmachine
[22:30] <gurkee> TheLordOfTime: the problem is that I cannot reinstall munin-conf, because during apt-get operation, the service is tried to be stopped -- which also hangs. if I kill the stop process, then the whole apt-get operation fails.
[22:30] <rp2> if that makes sense to you
[22:30] <jesseFromYVR> rp2: vaguely.. let me experiment :)
[22:31] <phii-tard> I keep getting this crash report from wicd
[22:33] <Jordan_U> validus: Boot from the Ubuntu LiveCD, open GParted, make sure that the correct drive is selected, then go to Device -> Create Partition Table. Create an msdos partition table, then apply the change, then exit GParted and install Ubuntu normally.
[22:33] <Jordan_U> validus: If after that you still have a misaligned partition, please file a bug report by running "ubuntu-bug ubiquity".
[22:34] <phii-tard> claims to be a duplicate of a bug that doesn't exist ( #628432 ) and all the other bug reports google can give me just say "this is a duplicate of bug #628432, any discussion should take place over there." ...but there isn't a bug #628432
[22:34] <phii-tard> see?
[22:35] <Jordan_U> phii-tard: It probably does exist, but is private for some reason.
[22:36] <validus> Jordan_U: ok thanks
[22:36] <phii-tard> oh. so...*if* there's a cure or a workaround, i need somebody on the wicd-daemon dev team to tell me what it is? :-(
[22:37] <Jordan_U> phii-tard: Whoever marked it a duplicate probably didn't realize that it was private, since they could see it. Try asking in #ubuntu-bugs how best to go about resolving the problem.
[22:38] <gimpy38> Running Ubuntu Server 12.04 with LXDE+Openbox I get no thumbnails of any videos with nautilus or pcmanfm.  Any clue as to why?
[22:41] <fippo> Hi, I exchanged my lucid installation disks into the new ivy bridge computer and updated initramfs with ata_piix, but the controller isn't recognized, the module not loaded and I'm dropping into busybox, why? Doesn't the lucid kernel support ivy bridge panther point?
[22:43] <fippo> precise works, but I didn't updated the old lucid box to precise before the disk replacement.
[22:44] <fippo> i mean precise live-cd works
[22:48] <rtcg> So what IS the sound system in 10.04?   alsa, pulseaudio, esound?  I don't even know the question to ask -- I just have to correct the studdering/echoing audio.
[22:48] <Dr_willis> pulse audio uses alsa rtcg .
[22:48] <zykotick9> rtcg: pulse which uses alsa!  pulse replaces esd (esound)
[22:49] <rtcg> even in 10.04?  Okay  I'll google around for audo problems with pulse
[22:49] <zykotick9> rtcg: that's a long list ;)  best of luck.
[22:49] <Dr_willis> pulse has been used for.. well.. ever?
[22:49] <Dr_willis> at least in ubuntu/gnome i think
[22:49] <rtcg> Long list indeed.  I need to figure out where to look.
[22:49] <zykotick9> Dr_willis: ;) i'd still consider pulse newish myself
[22:50] <Dr_willis> cant say ive really had many issues with pulse..
[22:53] <intel1> hey
[22:53] <intel1> i wanna make an a disk image
[22:53] <intel1> 2 save the ubuntu customization
[22:53] <intel1> and save time
[22:54] <intel1> i searched for clonezilla
[22:54] <intel1> but i didn't find it in the ubuntu software center
[22:54] <Dr_willis> we can read more then 4 words per line intel1 ...
[22:54] <Dr_willis> intel1,  theres a clonezilla live cd that you may want to use.
[22:54] <intel1> ya Dr_willis
[22:54] <intel1> you
[22:54] <intel1> can
[22:54] <intel1> not replacements ?
[22:54] <Dr_willis> Normally you dont 'clone/image' a in use system.
[22:55] <Dr_willis> You would use a live cd., and image  the system to some location.
[22:55] <Dr_willis> !find clonezilla
[22:56] <zykotick9> isn't clonezilla a livecd?
[22:57] <intel1> Dr_willis so should i burn clonezilla on cd
[22:57] <intel1> or can i do it with usb stick or ... ?
[22:58] <intel1> ??
[22:58] <Dr_willis> http://clonezilla.org/  has both ways..
[22:58] <flyinprogramer> alright, trying to build a linux router from an old computer i have, i've enabled ipv4_forwarding, setup dhcp, all of my clients get ip addresses, and can ping, dig, and run traceroutes, and yet none of them have "internet" meaning i go to load a website and i get http timeout errors -- i followed this guide: http://codeghar.wordpress.com/2012/05/02/ubuntu-12-04-ipv4-nat-gateway-and-dhcp-server/,   what am i doing wrong ?
[22:59] <flyinprogramer> or maybe there's a bug in the kernel ?
[22:59] <intel1> dr_willis : there is a program called norton ghost is it suitable ?
[22:59] <Dr_willis> intel1,  thats a comercial program for windows.. I havent used it in years.. and found it lacking.. and costly.
[22:59] <blackshirt> flynprogramer,what about dns?
[23:00] <intel1> haha  Dr_willis k so can i use it ?
[23:00] <Brent> I <3 Ubuntu.. Thought I would share. Carry on.
[23:00] <Dr_willis> 'i havent used it in years'  -> NO idea.
[23:00] <flyinprogramer> blackshirt: well i can dig from the client, so doesn't that prove dns is working? i have all the machines set to you google's  <IP_ADDRESS>, and <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:00] <intel1> k
[23:00] <Dr_willis> Why use it when theres the Free Clonezilla.
[23:00] <intel1> its make an image called XXX.ght
[23:01] <intel1> this is an a excutable image , this program can excute it on the driver u select
[23:01] <HoNgOuRu> I need help compiling and installing rt2870sta driver
[23:01] <HoNgOuRu> so please help
[23:01] <blackshirt> flynprogramer, what about (default) route on client?
[23:01] <flyinprogramer> blackshirt: that could be a possibility - tell me more ?
[23:01] <blackshirt> Hong0uru,what the error?
[23:02] <blackshirt> flynprogrammer, is your client use your router as a default gateway?
[23:03] <HoNgOuRu> blackshirt,  well, it al begun when I wanted to use the usb device in master mode... I had to blacklist rt2800usb driver but after that when I tried to modprobe rt2870sta I realised I didn't have it installed I downloaded it and run the make command, but it ends up with errors---
[23:04] <flyinprogramer> blackshirt: in the dhcp config i have "option routers" set to the box that's internet facing, and i was trying to make the box a router, so i have my clients hooked up to a "smart" switch..
[23:04] <blackshirt> hong0uru, i think you should specific with the error
[23:04] <flyinprogramer> blackshirt: it should be noted that when i put a router between the box and the cable modem, everything works fine -- which seems really weird to me...
[23:05] <HoNgOuRu> blackshirt, "error: struct task_struct dont have a member called fsuid...  fsgid suid fsgid
[23:05] <HoNgOuRu> one line per each
[23:05] <blackshirt> flynprogrammer, oh ... So the problem ?
[23:06] <blackshirt> hong0uru, i think you download a diiferent version for your kernel
[23:06] <HoNgOuRu> ok
[23:06] <HoNgOuRu> so?
[23:06] <HoNgOuRu> how do I fix this?
[23:06] <flyinprogramer> blackshirt: well i was trying to understand why i need a router between the cable modem and server…
[23:07] <flyinprogramer> blackshirt: because theoretically a unix box with two nics can do the same thing… except not because right now it's not working… so why
[23:07] <blackshirt> hong0uru, i think you should download the suite one, or use kernel that match
[23:07] <HoNgOuRu> my kernel... 3.2.0-24-generic
[23:07] <OerHeks> flyinprogramer, maybe the modem is linked to the mac of your router
[23:07] <HoNgOuRu> is that ok ?
[23:08] <flyinprogramer> OerHeks: i've restarted the modem, and the box has internet, and the clients can ping, traceroute, and dig...
[23:08] <Dr_willis> OerHeks,  i recall wheni switched router/pc from my cable modem i HAD to power down/restart the cable modem for things to start working..
[23:08] <Dr_willis> OerHeks,  :) but that dosent seem to be his case i guess. from his last comment.
[23:08] <kion> I installed Nvidia 304.51 and after that my unity lauch bar is hidden but does not respoond to mouse , I can only show it with super key ????
[23:08] <OerHeks> flyinprogramer, just checking, oke
[23:08] <Dr_willis> kion,  as a test, try making a new user, see if it works for them.
[23:08] <blackshirt> hong0uru, i don't know exactly, but the link you have download the driver should have information on this
[23:09] <flyinprogramer> OerHeks: np, i'm all ears because this one really has me spoofed… i'm tempted to install a window manager so i can use wireshark to maybe figure out what's going on.. i have iptraf running and can see the links getting established, but i'm too ignorant to understand what any of it really means in the UI provided
[23:10] <OerHeks> flyinprogramer, play with your dns > gateway ip / provider IP / opendns or <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:10] <rhizmoe> is it HP or Mozilla's fault that I can't just "print selection"?
[23:10] <HoNgOuRu> blackshirt, thank you
[23:11] <HoNgOuRu> I'll do my homework next time
[23:11] <blackshirt> hong0uru, good luck
[23:13] <HoNgOuRu> blackshirt, how do I install the latest stable kernel for ubuntu ?
[23:13] <Dr_willis> cant say ive noticed a 'print selection' feature in firefox.
[23:13] <Dr_willis> !kernel
[23:14] <TheLordOfTime> Dr_willis:  i think that's a feature of the print screen, pretty sure FFox supports "print selectoin"
[23:14] <blackshirt> !kernel | hong0uru
[23:14] <Anope> hi all
[23:14] <blackshirt> hi anope
[23:15] <Anope> i have a problem running my USB 3G modem
[23:15] <Anope> i have the 12.04 LTS
[23:15] <Anope> my modem is a Huawei E367
[23:16] <WeThePeople> ok i would like to delete windows from hdd and then reinstall it to hdd, what do i eed to look out for when doing this?
[23:16] <WeThePeople> i dual boot
[23:16] <WeThePeople> ubuntu
[23:17] <blackshirt> wethepeople, reinstall your windows?
[23:17] <kion> Dr_willis:I will
[23:17] <blackshirt> anope,okey,so what the problems?
[23:17] <WeThePeople> blackshirt, if halo worked on ubuntu.. forget windows
[23:17] <japro> hi, uh so what is the state of new nvidia laptops? i know there is some issue but google only comes up with articles about how angry linus is but nothing that clarifies the issue
[23:18] <Anope> the modem is switched correctly with usb_modeswitch , the problem with Network manager blackshirt
[23:18] <Anope> i trayed with Sakis 3G
[23:18] <Anope> same problem
[23:18] <blackshirt> wethepeople, halo?
[23:18] <WeThePeople> lol
[23:18] <blackshirt> anope, what about with wvdial?
[23:18] <WeThePeople> computer game
[23:19] <Anope> i wana try that blackshirt
[23:19] <Anope> thank you :)
[23:20] <Dr_willis> japro,  depends on the video chipset in them. The Optimus stuff is working for some systems via the 'bumblebee' tools.
[23:21] <Daghdha> is there any 'dock' for the workspaces? Or shortcut keys to quickly go ton one?
[23:21] <the56ker-MouSe> i need some help with wireless network adapter please
[23:21] <japro> what does "work" mean here? full features and performance or some funky open driver in pre alpha with opengl 1.1 support stuff? :d
[23:22] <japro> i kinda do graphics programming so that is relevant :D
[23:22] <rhizmoe> Daghdha: i'm sure you can bind f keys or whatever.
[23:22] <rhizmoe> there's probably a default, ctrl-alt-# or something
[23:23] <Daghdha> cursor keys it says here
[23:23] <WeThePeople> daghdha, iirc, CARIO.. GLX look for it in soft center
[23:23] <rhizmoe> unity?
[23:23] <Daghdha> yes
[23:24] <hanzu> hi -;
[23:24] <Daghdha> But i am in it trough VNC and my windows has that alt-ctrl-arrows already
[23:25] <Daghdha> looks like a mac
[23:25] <Guest40755> hi
[23:30] <p0rk> Running 12.04 server, just turned on server after coming home from work and it being off. After Grub, I get errors about mounting samba shares. Specifically 'mount: unknock filesystem type 'PATH'' where PATH is the actual path to the share, not a type at all. it should be a local loopback type.
[23:30] <p0rk> These shares worked fine for a few weeks since I initially set them up.
[23:31] <Abdulrahman> when i'm going to make a software update this message appears to me on screen
[23:31] <Abdulrahman> 'E:Type 'namon' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/gwendal-lebihan-dev-cinnamon-stable-precise.list'
[23:31] <Abdulrahman> how can  i solve this problem
[23:31] <p0rk> wiw
[23:31] <p0rk> wow
[23:31] <p0rk> i am a complete idiot
[23:31] <Abdulrahman> plz help needed here
[23:31] <p0rk> i just needed to hit S for skip, it was on the screen
[23:32] <Abdulrahman> no i mean i doesn't make any updates
[23:32] <blackshirt> abdulrahman, check your software sources
[23:32] <rhizmoe> manual boot bomb
[23:32] <the56ker-MouSe> help please when someone gets a chance thank you
[23:34] <blackshirt> abdulrahman, where do you come from?
[23:34] <Abdulrahman> EGYPT
[23:36] <rtcg> are there ANY other sound systems besides Pulse in Lucid that I can use?   The soundsystem is just so CHOPPY and static-y
[23:37] <the56ker-MouSe> i need wireless adapter help please
[23:38] <fh> Hey, I just updated my stable channel Google Chrome and the close, minimize and maximize buttons went to the right side. It is only on Chrome, other windows' buttons are still on the left side. Is this normal?
[23:38] <k4r1m> I tried evolution and I didn't like it so I removed it but I still keep getting a prompt for MAPI calendar.. how to do I get rid of it?
[23:39] <shihan> fh: yeah, when un-max'd they implement their own window frame
[23:40] <shihan> k4r1m, probabaly need to sudo apt-get purge evolution-mapi
[23:40] <fh> shihan, so it's going to stay on the right side forever?
[23:40] <k4r1m> shihan, not installed.
[23:41] <shihan> fh, if you go into chromes appearence settings you xan xhange it iirc
[23:41] <shihan> k4r1m, posibly evolution-exchange as well then
[23:42] <shihan> the56ker-MouSe, describe your problem and someone might answer
[23:42] <k4r1m> shihan, nope
[23:42] <k4r1m> nvm found it, libecal
[23:42] <shihan> k4r1m, lol, how about libedata-cal?
[23:42] <shihan> ahhh
[23:45] <k4r1m> shihan, and evolution-common is still here :S
[23:45] <fh> Hmm, thanks for the answers shihan, but I'm unable to find that appearance setting that you're talking about, besides "Use system title bar and borders", which is not the one I'm looking for.
[23:46] <shihan> fh, afaik, thats the only options, if its not maximised it either uses its own frame with the buttons on the right, or if you choose system title bar... its on which ever side the default is for the appearence settings your using
[23:47] <fh> Yeah, I got what you're saying. Thanks again.
[23:47] <shihan> k4r1m, afaik, evolution-common is just a meta package anyways
[23:48] <k4r1m> shihan, hmm I'm still getting a prompt haha
[23:49] <shihan> k4r1m, dpkg -l |grep evolution might be worth looking at, it should be one of those packages i would guess
[23:50] <intel1> hey
[23:50] <intel1> Dr_willis : r u here ?
[23:50] <intel1> ?
[23:50] <gimpy38> Running Ubuntu Server 12.04 with LXDE+Openbox I get no thumbnails of any videos with nautilus or pcmanfm.  Any clue as to why?
[23:51] <xxSn1p3rxx> hello... im looking into a fun DIY project to build a satellite dish wifi antenna to boost my usb wifi's range. I realise perhaps this is the wrong channel to ask.. but im having trouble finding good info on the net... if anyone has any ideas...I'd apreciate your help :-)
[23:51] <intel1> k anyway
[23:51] <japro> so what is the current status of amd graphics drivers?
[23:51] <shihan> xxSn1p3rxx, look around at cantenna, you might find some stuff linking from pages relating to that
[23:51] <the56ker-MouSe> i cant get wireless adapter to work says firmware missing so i was going through faq section trying everything i could find that dident seem like a waste of time and now my wireless adapter doesnt show up under network its a b43xx series on a hp laptop
[23:52] <xxSn1p3rxx> shihan: ahhh...cantenna! thats it! thanks!
[23:53] <shihan> the56ker-MouSe, sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[23:53] <xxSn1p3rxx> 56ker: i had the same problem with 12.04 before... you should disable the wired net adapter prior to installing ubuntu...
[23:54] <the56ker-MouSe> yeah theres no internet access on the latop shihan thats the problem im having i borrow my neighbors wireless ^_~
[23:56] <shihan> the56ker-MouSe, what ubuntu version?
[23:56] <the56ker-MouSe> the latest 12.04lts
[23:58] <Zabel> yo
[23:59] <shihan> the56ker-MouSe, i think this is the one you want.. http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/all/firmware-b43-installer/download grab it and dpkg -i (then cross fingers)
[23:59] <xxSn1p3rxx> hmmm.. where am i gona find a metal can with 12.5 cm diameter...


[17:07] <LaserJock> anybody here for Edubuntu?
[17:31] <sbalneav> Boo
[17:33] <LaserJock> #startmeeting
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[17:33] <LaserJock> just in case we need to remember something
[17:33] <LaserJock> ok, so let's do status report real quick
[17:33] <LaserJock> I'm gonna try to send out a "State of the Release" email today with more detail
[17:34] <LaserJock> * yesterday mvo got the changes for Add/Remove that we wanted for the app bundle spec
[17:34] <LaserJock> this means that our "app bundles" will always sort at the top of the list in Add/Remove
[17:35] <LaserJock> we also have inital metapackages for the bundles done
[17:35] <LaserJock> you can bzr branch lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/edubuntu.jaunty/ to get the seeds
[17:36] <LaserJock> the files should be fairly self-explanitory
[17:36] <LaserJock> I've also done some tweaking of the desktop seeds
[17:37] <LaserJock> so we have desktop-gome (for edubuntu-desktop) and desktop-kde (for edubuntu-desktop-kde)
[17:37] <LaserJock> sortly I'll transiton those to dep on the app bundles
[17:37] <LaserJock> *shortly
[17:38] <LaserJock> so edubuntu-desktop, for instance, will be app bundles + misc gnome'ish tools
[17:38] <LaserJock> and edubuntu-desktop-kde will be app bundles + mis kde'ish tools
[17:38] <LaserJock> so the app bundles (preschool, primary, secondary, tertiary) become the core
[17:39] <LaserJock> make sense?
[17:39] <highvoltage> yep
[17:39] <sbalneav> Yes
[17:40] <highvoltage> getting it via bzr now to get more familiar with them fwiw
[17:40] <LaserJock> what we need to do is finalize the app bundles
[17:40] <LaserJock> I just took a quick stab on figuring out what package would be appropriate
[17:40] <LaserJock> but I'm not a "real" educator so I'd like feedback there
[17:41] <LaserJock> next thing is the Universe app bundles
[17:41] <highvoltage> LaserJock: are those lists up on a wiki page somewhere?
[17:41] <LaserJock> highvoltage: nope
[17:41] <LaserJock> highvoltage: RichEd had a spreadsheet with a bunch of apps cateogrized by level
[17:42] <LaserJock> it's attached to the app bundle spec
[17:42] <LaserJock> *but* it's outdated, I think it's based on Hardy
[17:42] <highvoltage> hmm, it would be nice to have it on the wiki for educators to see. I don't think we can expect them to bzr it out for feedback
[17:42] <LaserJock> for the Main ones that's not a problem, we know what's in there
[17:42] <highvoltage> LaserJock: I'm looking at it now, don't you think ktuberling can also go into preschool?
[17:43] <LaserJock> highvoltage: I sent the info to the mailing list
[17:43] <LaserJock> highvoltage: nobody responded
[17:43] <LaserJock> I can try a wiki page to see if that'll help
[17:43] <highvoltage> LaserJock: sorry, I must have missed it through everything. I can put it up on the wiki too?
[17:43] <LaserJock> the bigger issue is the Universe app bundles
[17:44] <LaserJock> highvoltage: go for it
[17:44] <LaserJock> I need 1) a good naming scheme and 2) a list of Universe apps we think are important for educators
[17:44] <LaserJock> for 1) I've been really thrashing around with this but haven't really fell in love with anything
[17:44] <highvoltage> os that ship-addon?
[17:45] <highvoltage> oh, it's not
[17:45] <LaserJock> highvoltage: hmm?
[17:45] <LaserJock> ship-addon is what goes on the Ubuntu Education Cd
[17:45] <LaserJock> so far the biggest support has been for ubuntu-edu-*-extras
[17:46] <LaserJock> to be consistent with the Main app bundles (which are ubuntu-edu-*) and to show that we consider these useful extras but not our core apps
[17:47] <LaserJock> one thing I wanted to be sure of is to make it future-proof regarding the Archive Reogranization
[17:47] <highvoltage> future-proof in terms of naming I assume?
[17:47] <LaserJock> yeah
[17:48] <highvoltage> that's a toughie
[17:48] <LaserJock> well, if the universe/main split goes away
[17:49] <LaserJock> I'm guessing we'll want to have a core and extras set of packages still
[17:49] <highvoltage> ok, so the difference between those 'universe' apps and the ones that are currently shipped is that the universe ones won't be shipped
[17:50] <LaserJock> and won't be "fully supported by Canonical and the Edubuntu community"
[17:50] <highvoltage> so how about something like edubuntu-nonshipped-primary or something that implies that it's not shipped on the disc?
[17:50] <highvoltage> that's a lot to try and imply in the length of a package name :)
[17:50] <highvoltage> (but I understand the need for it)
[17:50] <LaserJock> well, we do have package descriptions
[17:50] <highvoltage> right
[17:51] <LaserJock> I liked either ubuntu-edu-*-extras
[17:51] <LaserJock> or edubuntu-*
[17:52] <LaserJock> edubuntu-* get's us into trouble because there's confusion as to what is edubuntu and what is ubuntu-edu
[17:52] <LaserJock> btw, we've removed debian-edu from Jaunty
[17:52] <LaserJock> so we won't have the "education" namespace clutter
[17:54] <highvoltage> ok
[17:54] <LaserJock> so what are your opinions?
[17:54] <highvoltage> about edubuntu and ubuntu-edu confusion...
[17:55] <highvoltage> I'm confused
[17:55] <LaserJock> :-)
[17:55] <highvoltage> how does edubuntu-* cause trouble? is it supposed to be ubuntu-edu-*?
[17:55] <LaserJock> the app bundles in main are called ubuntu-edu-*
[17:55] <LaserJock> but they're the core of what we'd call Edubuntu
[17:56] <highvoltage> ah, that must be new in jaunty then
[17:56] <LaserJock> if we then add in packages that are called edubuntu-*, but are the community-supported "extras" it's confusing
[17:56] <LaserJock> yes, it is
[17:56] <highvoltage> quite honestly I think the way that it's all branded is really terribly confusing
[17:57] <LaserJock> I know, but we've tried to minimze that
[17:57] <LaserJock> Canonical wants "Ubuntu Education" so that's what we're doing
[17:58] <LaserJock> the only way to make it less confusing is to ditch "Edubuntu" altogether, which would have pretty consquences, IMO
[17:58] <LaserJock> *pretty big
[17:58] <highvoltage> yep
[17:59] <LaserJock> so does ubuntu-edu-*-extras sound OK?
[17:59] <LaserJock> do you think it's misleading at all?
[18:00] <LaserJock> should we just ditch the concept altogether and find a different way to get educators to Universe software?
[18:00] <highvoltage> it's probably as good as you'll get it
[18:01] <highvoltage> LaserJock: it's probably a good start. if someone doesn't like it or they want to make suggestions they should be encouraged to file bugs
[18:01] <highvoltage> that way it will at least improve from release to release
[18:02] <LaserJock> right
[18:02] <LaserJock> I just don't want to create a set of package that we then rename/remove in a release or two
[18:03] <highvoltage> hmm
[18:03] <LaserJock> a big problem for us already is how constantly we're changing
[18:03] <LaserJock> users have no idea what "Edubuntu" is
[18:04] <LaserJock> heck , we don't even know what it is :-)
[18:05] <highvoltage> I guess that's why we want RichEd here too
[18:06] <LaserJock> for the rest of Jaunty
[18:06] <LaserJock> we have bugs
[18:06] <LaserJock> we need to fix them :-)
[18:06] <sbalneav> Workin' on Sabayon now.
[18:07] <sbalneav> Could we classify the top 10 bugs we'd like to fix?  So I can have a target?
[18:08] <LaserJock> I was wanting to do an Edubuntu Hug Day
[18:08] <LaserJock> which would would do something like that
[18:08] <LaserJock> have target bugs rather than just "heah, fix these 200+ bugs"
[18:08] <LaserJock> thanks to moquist we have moodle 1.9.4 in Jaunty
[18:09] <highvoltage> \o/
[18:09] <LaserJock> it still needs some work but it fixes 24 CVEs, 20 Debian bugs, and 7 Ubuntu bugs
[18:09] <LaserJock> huge improvement
[18:09] <sbalneav> I took the day off to work on some bugs, but I'd be up for another bug day
[18:09] <LaserJock> we can work today
[18:10] <LaserJock> and then at the end of today get a list for the next bug day that I'll announce the heck out of
[18:10] <LaserJock> sbalneav: sound OK?
[18:14] <LaserJock> ok, before we go morgs sent me a Sugar Team status update:
[18:14] <LaserJock> * All the platform components have been updated to the Sugar
[18:14] <LaserJock> FeatureFreeze versions before the Jaunty Feature Freeze. However, they
[18:14] <LaserJock> are now out of date. The Sugar final 0.84.0 release is on Tuesday 3
[18:14] <LaserJock> March and I'll submit bug reports to upload that then. I've logged
[18:14] <LaserJock> bugs for an intermediate release, but I have a problem building the
[18:14] <LaserJock> main sugar component successfully - a problem installing the gconf
[18:14] <LaserJock> schemas.
[18:14] <LaserJock> * The abiword libabiword bug is still open - I haven't had time to
[18:14] <LaserJock> address the latest criticism on my patch.
[18:14] <LaserJock> * The remaining components which are really out of date are
[18:14] <LaserJock> activities, on which nothing else depends. I'll file bug reports
[18:14] <LaserJock> asking for FFEs to get them uploaded once the platform is up to date.
[18:14] <LaserJock> sorry for the paste spam there
[18:14] <sbalneav> OK
[18:15] <LaserJock> so they still need to get libabiword worked out
[18:16] <LaserJock> ok, well, any other issues?
[18:17] <LaserJock> like I said before, I'll be sending out an email with more detail on what things need to get done before release
[18:17] <LaserJock> as you guys now, I'm about out of *buntu-time for Jaunty so I'll be pointing out what items I'll take care of
[18:17] <LaserJock> and the rest will have to depend on people stepping up a little to make sure things get done
[18:19] <LaserJock> going once ..
[18:19] <LaserJock> going twice ..
[18:20] <LaserJock> ok, we're done
[18:20] <LaserJock> #endmeeting
[18:20] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 12:20.
[18:20] <LaserJock> back over the wall to #edubuntu