[00:00] <ikonia> Blackshear: there is no linux port
[00:00] <HDRDanny> Steam Crashed.
[00:00] <Daemoen> ikonia: yeah, i havent even attempted to do kickstart yet
[00:00] <Daemoen> im forcing myself to learn preseed
[00:00] <Daemoen> i just dont like its syntax; im sure id feel the same if i was a debber instead of a hatter, but meh
[00:00] <hitsujiTMO> Daemoen: you using the debconf-tools?
[00:01] <Daemoen> hitsujiTMO: hrm ?
[00:01] <Daemoen> forgive my stupidity about all things deb/ubuntu, i know more than enough to be dangerous, but not enough to be familiar enough to know which tools do what =D
[00:02] <Bashing-om> jacob_: Whats up ?
[00:02] <Blackshear> ikonia, so tis tutorial is false?, http://www.parityportal.com/2013/06/11/itunes-on-ubuntu-heres-how-you-get-it-running/
[00:02] <ikonia> Blackshear: yes
[00:03] <Blackshear> ol
[00:03] <hitsujiTMO> debconf-get-selections + debconf-set-selections. its used to figureout out preseed configs. dump the current preseed with debconf-get-selections. do you action. then dump the newer preseed again with dobconf-get-selections. diff the two files and thats your preseed vals
[00:03] <jacob_> hi i upgraded to ubuntu 13.1 and now my streaming video is really choppy. it might have been something i did trying to get netflix to work but im not sure. any ideas?
[00:03] <spearhead> Blackshear, even if you could get it running (ikonia, you can) it doesn't run very well and it crashes a lot it just isn't worth it...
[00:04] <Bashing-om> jacob_: sorry, no experience with either, others will have to jump in here and advise.
[00:05] <ikonia> spearhead lets be real - no you can't its wine junk that changes usable experiences every time itunes does a version bump
[00:05] <ikonia> spearhead: that is not "working" that's some people writing a tutorial to get the gui to come up sometimes
[00:05] <hitsujiTMO> Daemoen: oops forgot to ping you on the last message ^^^^
[00:05] <ikonia> so "no" itunes is not available on linux
[00:05] <jacob_> k. ok when you all or any of you have the chance
[00:06] <Daemoen> hitsujiTMO: ahh, yeah
[00:06] <qin> !info atunes
[00:06] <Daemoen> i tried that, i was told not to trust that method because it usually makes a mess of the preseed files :\
[00:06] <spearhead> ikonia, i agree but some people are so stuck on itunes that they will try anything to get it to work... and sometimes (once in a hundred blue moons) it does
[00:06] <ikonia> spearhead: so "no you can't install itunes on ubuntu" - it's just not a usable solution
[00:06] <ikonia> and really shouldn't be pushed to people
[00:07] <ikonia> itunes works on windows or mac osx, if you need itunes for syncing your phone/ipod/ipad, then that is the OS you need to use
[00:07] <pero> is there any reason why i wouldnt want to remove the src repos?
[00:08] <spearhead> ikonia, that is partially true... itunes *can* be installed it just *cannot* be used very well and *should not* be pushed on people as an option
[00:08] <ikonia> spearhead: please be realistic
[00:08] <Bashing-om> pero: none at all if you have no need/desire to look at the source codes.
[00:08] <pero> Bashing-om: thx
[00:09] <hitsujiTMO> pero: if you're intending to modify some of the code in the packages ( such as with dwm where configuration happens in the source )
[00:09] <spearhead> ikonia, I am being realistic... that is what can, cannot, and should not be done
[00:09] <ikonia> spearhead: no-one in their right mind would want to install something to not use it, and as it can't be used in linux - it therefore cannot be installed in linux
[00:09] <Bashing-om> pero: I personally do not enable the src repos on any of my installs less my "working: install. Updates are Much faster.
[00:09] <qin> Bashing-om: "desire to look at the source codes." catchy stuff, mate.
[00:10] <ikonia> spearhead: running through the install routine is not really "installed" in terms of a working application, it just copies fines in place for wine to try to make a mess of it
[00:10] <spearhead> ikonia, i never said that people who tried to install itunes on ubuntu are in their right mind...
[00:11] <DaemeonZane> hola compadres
[00:11] <spearhead> ikonia, if you want to continue this discussion lets move it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:11] <Bashing-om> qin: I have been known to get "caught" once in a while. Sometimes one wants to know, and the only answers are in reading the source code !
[00:11] <DaemeonZane> I have a quick question in regards to doing a system upgrade
[00:11] <ikonia> spearhead: lets not continue it
[00:12] <DaemeonZane> I'm upgrading via terminal from 12.10 to the 13.04 release, and for some reason, it's halted during setup, and I'm not sure what's safe to do and what's not
[00:12] <ikonia> DaemeonZane: if it's not completed - its not safe to do anything
[00:13] <DaemeonZane> Last messages were that it was setting up the downloaded packages, but its been stuck for the last 12 hours grabbing the latest flash
[00:13] <ikonia> flash is not in the repos
[00:13] <ikonia> it's from an external provider
[00:13] <DaemeonZane> I know it isn't
[00:13] <ikonia> right, so why is the package installed
[00:13] <Bashing-om> DaemeonZane: Check and make sure there is not a hidden pop-up window !
[00:14] <DaemeonZane> Because I use flash...?
[00:14] <DaemeonZane> lol
[00:14] <ikonia> DaemeonZane: right, but it goes to an external website....
[00:14] <ikonia> DaemeonZane: it's probably looking for a dead link and just sat there
[00:14] <DaemeonZane> ikonia: I know
[00:14] <ikonia> DaemeonZane: if you know this, "why is it installed"
[00:14] <DaemeonZane> That's exactly what I thin is happening
[00:15] <DaemeonZane> Ikonia: again, because I use Flash for certain development
[00:15] <ikonia> DaemeonZane: yes, so removing the external dependency before upgrading is the correct thing to do
[00:15] <ikonia> DaemeonZane: ubuntu cannot be responsible for adobe maintaining links - which they don't as flash is dead on linux
[00:15] <ikonia> and if you know this - you should have removed it
[00:15] <ikonia> (before upgrading)
[00:15] <DaemeonZane> I see that now, but with it hung obtaining the package, what is it safe to do, besides try again?
[00:16] <ikonia> DaemeonZane: it's not safe at all
[00:16] <ikonia> kill the install
[00:16] <ikonia> remove flash
[00:16] <ikonia> try again
[00:16] <DaemeonZane> Last output is as follows: http://pastebin.com/7xy3twDb
[00:17] <DaemeonZane> It has apparently downloaded everything and began setting it up, but has frozen at flash for the reasons you've already been kind enough to explain
[00:18] <DaemeonZane> I would assume that I should be able to kill the terminal, uninstall flash, and restart without it killing the whole install, but assumptions being the mother of all screwups, I wanted to check with those who have more experience than I before doing so
[00:18] <Blackshear> so theres absoulutley no way at all to transfer music to an ipod from linux, because we are assuming that itunes will not work well, ikonia
[00:18] <ikonia> DaemeonZane: there is no promise it will not cause a prolem
[00:18] <ikonia> Blackshear: no
[00:19] <hitsujiTMO> Blackshear: best thing to do is install a vm with windows or osx and use that for itunes. or dualboot windows
[00:19] <DaemeonZane> @Blackshear: Rythmbox claims to be able to sync, but a VM is your best option, sir
[00:20] <DaemeonZane> I've been thru that one myself back in the 10.x releases
[00:20] <boboysdadda> how do i gain write permissions to /etc ?
[00:20] <hitsujiTMO> boboysdadda: why do you want to write to /etc ?
[00:21] <DaemeonZane> gksu or sudo boboysdadda
[00:22] <hitsujiTMO> DaemeonZane: hes gone.
[00:22] <DaemeonZane> Though poking around in /etc can cause major issues
[00:22] <DaemeonZane> apparently
[00:22] <DaemeonZane> ...
[00:22] <DaemeonZane> lol
[00:22] <FloodBot1> DaemeonZane: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:22] <DaemeonZane> Yeah, well... pardon me for being gramtically correct and typing fast. I'll try harder next time lol
[00:23] <DaemeonZane> Anyway, thanks for the heads up, ikonia
[00:23] <ikonia> DaemeonZane: let me know how you get on if you try kickstart, I try to keep notes on what's working/not working on that
[00:24] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO:
[00:24] <Psil0Cybin> okay i am back burning the usb
[00:25] <DaemeonZane> ikonia: for sure. I'm still fairly new to Debian based distros, but I'm trying to learn fast. Linux has one hell of a steep learning curve lol
[00:25] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: are u still here
[00:25] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: just about :P
[00:25] <DaemeonZane> Thank the gods for IRC and folks like yourself who are willing to throw out tips to even the n00biest of n00bs
[00:25] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: okaay good
[00:25] <Psil0Cybin> burning it now
[00:27] <DaemeonZane> ikonia: I killed the terminal process for the dist-upgrade and I'm running dpkg to try and repair what's already installed
[00:27] <DaemeonZane> wish me luck
[00:27] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: burning it
[00:27] <Psil0Cybin> 6% complete.
[00:27] <Psil0Cybin> HisaoNakai:
[00:28] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: using my ubuntu 12.04 it downloaded server for 64bit amd
[00:28] <Psil0Cybin> but for the desktop its downloading i3 or something
[00:28] <DaemeonZane> I have a feeling I'll wind up downloading the 13.04 iso and just running a clean install
[00:28] <Psil0Cybin> that should be fine right
[00:29] <Psil0Cybin> HisaoNakai:
[00:29] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: might have downloaded the wrong desktop iso...sigh
[00:30] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: assuming i cannot fix this with the server iso?
[00:30] <hitsujiTMO> doh. needs to be 64bit to access the efi boot manager
[00:30] <Psil0Cybin> kk so hitsujiTMO downloading 64 bit now...
[00:30] <Psil0Cybin> sigh
[00:30] <Psil0Cybin> :)
[00:30] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: no server iso won't have the necessary tools
[00:30] <Psil0Cybin> kk hitsujiTMO i am getting the 64 bit version right now.
[00:31] <glitsj16> DaemeonZane: 13.04 has only about 2 weeks to gobefore it's EOL ..
[00:33] <Synx|hm> Has anyone noiced odd behavior with iproute2 rules in the latest updates to ubuntu server?
[00:33] <Synx|hm> I think my iproute2 rules are nolonger correctly using me secondary gateway on a secondary NIC
[00:34] <Blackshear> if i wanted to make a short cut to the terminal on my desktop how would i do that?
[00:34] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: downloading it as a torrent
[00:34] <Psil0Cybin> will be way faster. 9 minutes
[00:34] <Psil0Cybin> and i will be ready for you, sorry to keep you waiting.
[00:35] <hitsujiTMO> Blackshear: copy the .desktop to the Desktop from /usr/share/applications
[00:36] <daniel_> can someone send me the mint 16 OS?
[00:36] <ikonia> daniel_: no
[00:36] <ikonia> daniel_: it's on the mint website
[00:36] <ikonia> daniel_: it's nothing to do with ubuntu so not for discussion here
[00:37] <daniel_> ikonia sorry
[00:37] <ikonia> no proble
[00:37] <ikonia> problem
[00:37] <daniel_> whats the newest ubuntu?
[00:37] <ikonia> 13.10
[00:37] <ikonia> daniel_: ubuntu.com for more info
[00:37] <daniel_> i used to run ubuntu then switched to MInt
[00:38] <qin> daniel_: common mistake
[00:38] <daniel_> i forgot how to mention someone
[00:38] <hitsujiTMO> Blackshear: cp /usr/share/applications/gnome-terminal.desktop ~/Desktop
[00:38] <ikonia> daniel_: you type their name
[00:39] <Beldar> daniel_, You can tab complete nicks as well. Kinda wonder why you would go from ubuntu to mint, but that is your choice.
[00:40] <x62656E> i went from probably a small to somehow quite a bigger problem. i can only access the tty
[00:40] <daniel_> beldar me and my dad switched versions just to experiment around a little
[00:40] <x62656E> how can i reset my complete x11, lightdm environment?
[00:41] <bekks> x62656E: reset to what?
[00:41] <x62656E> standard settings?
[00:41] <x62656E> or probably reinstalling them
[00:42] <daniel_> Beldar:me and my dad are just experimenting with diff linux distros and stuff
[00:43] <Beldar> daniel_, Ah, cool.
[00:43] <daniel_> Beldar i have also modded windows
[00:43] <daniel_> #Beldar i have also modded windows
[00:44] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: okay finally
[00:44] <Psil0Cybin> 64bit startup disk
[00:44] <Psil0Cybin> sigh
[00:44] <Psil0Cybin> almost done...
[00:44] <Beldar> daniel_, Just the name alone notifies, I just tab complete, here it just adds a comma with the nick is all.
[00:49] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: sorry man bare with me. 52% done burning
[00:49] <Psil0Cybin> and then we will be good to go / ill really need ur help loll
[00:52] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: it should be easily fixable you think tho right?
[00:52] <Psil0Cybin> since all the files are already installed o nthe hd, and its raided and all
[00:52] <Psil0Cybin> it just should be a simple fix of a string or something?
[00:52] <Psil0Cybin> slash link?
[00:53] <bigbadben> is there a way to install security updates from the terminal? instead of using the gui
[00:54] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: hopefully. it really depends on what where it went wrong
[00:54] <ikonia> bigbadben: sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:54] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: errr,well with you by my side the best we can try is try :P
[00:54] <Psil0Cybin> worst case ill just have to reinstall / reraid eh :P
[00:55] <Psil0Cybin> with this hopefully as a learning experience :P
[00:55] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[00:55] <Psil0Cybin> drive done booting in live cd.
[00:56] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: start by pastebinning: lsblk
[00:56] <Psil0Cybin> okay jut loading the live cd :P
[00:57] <sd> nick devinesteve
[00:57] <Guest65826> heh
[00:57] <Blackshear> so i want to make a short cut to vlc player
[00:58] <Blackshear> i found the application in /usr/bin/vlc
[00:58] <Blackshear> but the icon is not the trafic cone
[00:58] <Blackshear> how would i change this?
[00:58] <Blackshear> (i copied the file to the desktop)
[00:58] <bigbadben> ikonia, I thought sudo apt-get upgrade, literally upgraded you to the next version of ubuntu no?
[00:59] <ikonia> bigbadben: no
[00:59] <hitsujiTMO> Blackshear: edit the .desktop file and point Icon to the past to an image of the traffic cone
[01:00] <Blackshear> hitsujiTMO, where is the .desktop file
[01:01] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: it takes for ever, just to get to the Try Ubuntu button
[01:01] <Psil0Cybin> sigh
[01:02] <hitsujiTMO> Blackshear: /usr/share/applications
[01:02] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO:
[01:02] <Psil0Cybin> the desktop loaded, but i cannot use the mouse now
[01:02] <Psil0Cybin> sigh
[01:02] <hitsujiTMO> pfft
[01:03] <Psil0Cybin> oh my god >.<
[01:03] <Psil0Cybin> this is never going to just be easy lol
[01:03] <hitsujiTMO> ctrl + alt + t
[01:03] <Psil0Cybin> i did but i wont be able to pastebin
[01:03] <Psil0Cybin> anything
[01:03] <hitsujiTMO> install pastebinit
[01:03] <spearhead> bigbadben, sudo apt-get upgrade checks the sources and then upgrades any packages that are out of date. there isn't an apt-get command that upgrades the version of ubuntu
[01:04] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: ethernet is not working
[01:04] <Psil0Cybin> i do not have internet...sigh
[01:05] <Psil0Cybin> and mouse is not working
[01:05] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: hrm.. this is annoying :P
[01:06] <Bashing-om> spearhead: Keep in mind "do-relase-upgrade" .. just a reminder.
[01:06] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: lsblk says
[01:06] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: what ethernet controller is on the machine?
[01:06] <Psil0Cybin> sda => sda1 sda2 sda3 all in one list
[01:07] <Psil0Cybin> than sdb - sdb1 sdb2 sdb3
[01:07] <Psil0Cybin> in another
[01:07] <Psil0Cybin> sdc sdc1 sdc2 sdc3 in another
[01:07] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: no mds?
[01:07] <Psil0Cybin> sdd -> sdd1 and loop0
[01:07] <Psil0Cybin> loop1
[01:07] <Psil0Cybin> i do not see mds hitsujiTMO anywhere
[01:07] <Psil0Cybin> how can i find out what ethernet controller
[01:07] <Psil0Cybin> is in the machine?
[01:07] <glitsj16> Blackshear: are you using unity by any chance? if so there's other options than creating desktop launchers for your favo apps -- if you don't i'm making no sense sojust ignore
[01:08] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: sudo mdadm --assemble --scan
[01:08] <Psil0Cybin> although the install said it created MDs hitsujiTMO
[01:08] <spearhead> Bashing-om, yes, but that is a separate program not an apt-get command
[01:08] <Psil0Cybin> no command found mdadm
[01:08] <hitsujiTMO> crap
[01:08] <Psil0Cybin> oh man :(
[01:09] <hitsujiTMO> need mdadm to setup the mds so we can mount em
[01:09] <Psil0Cybin> oh man
[01:09] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO:
[01:09] <Psil0Cybin> *hits head against table*
[01:09] <Psil0Cybin> what do i do than now?
[01:09] <Blackshear> how do i make a desktop link to usr/share/applications
[01:10] <Psil0Cybin> why did i have this issue, i am so confused it said it created the md tables fine and evyerhting
[01:10] <Psil0Cybin> and it installed the whole system
[01:10] <Psil0Cybin> and with the internet and mouse not working
[01:10] <Psil0Cybin> this is going to be a whole week thing just to get the O.S on eh?
[01:10] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin:  yes. but its not aware of them right now. you have to tell it about them
[01:10] <Bashing-om>  spearhead : That is a true thing, My point was that there is a terminal command to "upgrade" to the next release.
[01:11] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: it will have that info loaded in grub on the install
[01:11] <Psil0Cybin> oh okay hitsujiTMO so what should we do right now?
[01:11] <Psil0Cybin> with this given silly situation i am in.
[01:11] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: ok: lspci | grep Ethernet
[01:12] <Psil0Cybin> Ethernet controller: realtek semiconductor Co LTD. RTL8111 8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 060
[01:12] <Psil0Cybin> 06)
[01:12] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: ok: lspci -nn | grep Ethernet
[01:12] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: whats then ven_id + dev_id
[01:12] <Psil0Cybin> Ethernet Controller [0200] Realtek semiconductor Co LTD RTL8111 8168B PCI Express Gigabit
[01:12] <Psil0Cybin> Ethernet Controller
[01:13] <Psil0Cybin> [10ec:8168] rev (o6)
[01:13] <Psil0Cybin> how do i find out ven_id or dev_id?
[01:14] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: 10ec:8168 is vendor_id:device_id
[01:15] <Psil0Cybin> kay
[01:15] <Psil0Cybin> got the mouse working
[01:15] <Psil0Cybin> using another usb port
[01:15] <Psil0Cybin> okay hitsujiTMO so i provided it properly :)
[01:16] <nearst> hi good ppl
[01:16] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: ok: lspci -knn | grep Ethernet -A 3                                does it specify a driver?
[01:17] <Bashing-om> nearst: Hello to you too .
[01:17] <Psil0Cybin> syas Kernel Driver in use: r88169
[01:17] <Psil0Cybin> r8169*
[01:17] <Synx|hm> what is the correct way to manage default runlevel startups? update-rc.d?
[01:17] <Synx|hm> from the console
[01:17] <nearst> Bashing-om: i got problem wit my unity on raring. its blank. only X cursor
[01:18] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: seems like the driver, is installed on the system I am confused.
[01:19] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: reading up on it now. seems to be an old driver that has issues on kernels > 2.6
[01:19] <nearst> Synx|hm: try update-rc.d --help
[01:19] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: oh lol
[01:19] <Psil0Cybin> what would i do with out you...
[01:20] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: anything in: ifconfig
[01:20] <Synx|hm> nearst: just making sure update-rc.d is the "correct" way i thought at one point there was an update-service, and i didn't see a switch to list all services in update-rc.d but ill be honest i did not dig too deep
[01:21] <Psil0Cybin> ifconfig says Ethernet RX Packets 458 errors: 0 dropped 1
[01:21] <Psil0Cybin> than TX packets 0 errors 0 dropped 611
[01:21] <nearst> Synx|hm: try look for BUM in package manager. it would manage runlevel :)
[01:21] <Synx|hm> nearst: thanks
[01:21] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: does not give IP information or anything
[01:21] <Pici> !runlevels
[01:21] <Bashing-om> nearst: Have you tried terminal command: setsid unity <- ?
[01:22] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: looks like it things the ethernet is not connected, or as if its not getting internet
[01:22] <Synx|hm> !Upstart
[01:22] <Psil0Cybin> from the ethernet.
[01:23] <nearst> Bashing-om: im in console atm :D , try different method including dconf reset but not work
[01:23] <nearst> it happen last night ima install python-pyopencl :(
[01:23] <Psil0Cybin> lo is set to link encap: local loopback
[01:23] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: what would I look for specifically in ifconfig?
[01:24] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: just to see if the eth0 is there or not
[01:24] <Psil0Cybin> oh its there
[01:24] <Psil0Cybin> just no actually connectivitiy seems like
[01:24] <Psil0Cybin> even the light is going off tho at the back of the computer beside the ethernet wire.
[01:24] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: seems to be lots of mentions that it doen't actually work tho: http://askubuntu.com/questions/396804/rtl8111-8168b-rev-06-ethernet-controller-not-working-with-amd64-kernels-2-6
[01:25] <nearst> yawn. i hate dpkg-reconfigure -a
[01:25] <Psil0Cybin> ouch
[01:25] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: what would i do than.....
[01:25] <Psil0Cybin> download another versio nof the seaver, and redo everything?
[01:26] <Bashing-om> nearst: dconf reset -f /org/compiz/ (?) how about :sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg (?)
[01:26] <kay______> ?
[01:26] <kay______> oh
[01:27] <nearst> Bashing-om: try both. still
[01:27] <dougl> where do you talk about 14.04
[01:28] <Pici> dougl: #ubuntu+1
[01:28] <Bashing-om> nearst: umphhh,, is python functioning ? from that install ya did ?
[01:28] <dougl> thanks
[01:28] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: will it be possible to get a server working on this computer? or do i need to return it / the parts
[01:28] <Psil0Cybin> I am confused, if this is physically possible at this point
[01:28] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: looks like you'll need to build the driver: http://www.rvdavid.net/how-to-get-gigabit-speeds-from-rtl81118168b-pci-express-gigabit-ethernet-controller-on-ubuntu-linux/
[01:28] <Psil0Cybin> to get the mouse/ethernet/OS working lmao
[01:28] <nearst> Bashing-om: yea. its working
[01:28] <Psil0Cybin> wow
[01:28] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: is that alot of work? to do
[01:29] <Psil0Cybin> so we need to get the ethernet working
[01:29] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: i wouldn't be too worried about the mouse, its the ethernet thats the problem
[01:29] <Psil0Cybin> once that works we can diagnose the raid errors.
[01:29] <Psil0Cybin> ?
[01:29] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: yup. unfortunately i need to head to bed soon
[01:30] <Psil0Cybin> darn okay, do u think we can get the etho working today and than tmoro u can help me with the raid issues?
[01:30] <Psil0Cybin> just because I am at work
[01:30] <Psil0Cybin> i have been here for 5 hours but got nothing actually done :(
[01:30] <Psil0Cybin> since all i have is errors.
[01:30] <Bashing-om> nearst: as reconfigure and dconf both fail, all I can come up with is to (re-)install unity and see what haps.
[01:30] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: so following the guide
[01:30] <Psil0Cybin> i need to download the driver put it on a usb?
[01:30] <Psil0Cybin> and ull continue to help me
[01:30] <nearst> actually, what is init:at-spi2-registryd respawning too fast, stopped . from .xsession-errors
[01:31] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: i need this file right
[01:31] <Psil0Cybin> LINUX driver for kernel 3.x and 2.6.x and 2.4.x
[01:31] <Psil0Cybin> 8.037.00	2013/9/24
[01:31] <Psil0Cybin> ?
[01:31] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:31] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: have a usb handy. you need the driver, but you also need the build-essential packages
[01:31] <nearst> Bashing-om: im did apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop unity on earlier. idk why still blank
[01:32] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: i have a uSB handy
[01:32] <Psil0Cybin> i got the r8168.tar.bz2 package
[01:32] <Psil0Cybin> whhat else do i need?
[01:32] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: what country are you in?
[01:32] <Psil0Cybin> Canada
[01:33] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO:
[01:33] <Psil0Cybin> i am putting the driver on the usb stick
[01:33] <Bashing-om> nearst: Presently I am out of ideas, will ponder and look about, if I come up with other options I will holler at ya.
[01:34] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: i got it
[01:34] <Psil0Cybin> what else do i need.
[01:34] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: r8168-8.037.00.tar.bz2
[01:34] <irimi> Hey guys. I am trying to install ubuntu (13.10) on my new laptop with a Geforce 750, sadly the screen remains black due to some nouveau bug; - how can I disable nouveau driver loading during LiveCD booting ?
[01:35] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: do i need this as well
[01:35] <Psil0Cybin> [build-essential_11.5ubuntu2.tar.gz]
[01:35] <glitsj16> irimi: why do you think it's a nouveau bug? any errors that suggest that?
[01:36] <Beldar> irimi, Couple questions, have you tried a nomodeset boot, and is this a dual boot, if so with what?
[01:36] <glitsj16> Beldar: sorry :)
[01:36] <irimi> because this is what I found out so far, via adding "nomodeset" line I was able to boot up into the console, but then I have no X / installer
[01:36] <p0wder> irimi:  did you install from usb or cd?
[01:36] <irimi> livecd
[01:36] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: i put both tar.bz2 on the USB.
[01:36] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: hmm. do you have another machine that you can load the live cd that you can get the net going on?
[01:37] <Psil0Cybin> i just have the laptop i am using now
[01:37] <Psil0Cybin> and the machine with the livecd :(
[01:37] <Bashing-om> nearst: This maybe ? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/how-to-reset-unity-compiz-in-ubuntu-12-10-and-13-04 (??)
[01:37] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: can you boot the live cd on the laptop?
[01:37] <nearst> Bashing-om: not work too.
[01:37] <p0wder> irimi:  have u successfully booted from live cd?
[01:37] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: no its an acer aspire one and requires a special kernel to even boot LOL
[01:37] <Psil0Cybin> i wont be able to find right now its at home on a usb disk
[01:37] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: bah
[01:38] <Psil0Cybin> so im out of luck tonight eh hitsujiTMO
[01:38] <Psil0Cybin> or could I just attempt to resintall the server...I suppose
[01:38] <hitsujiTMO> need a good few packages for build-essential
[01:38] <Psil0Cybin> and repartition all that jazz again..
[01:38] <irimi> p0wder: yes, when I specify nomodeset, yes, but then I do not get an X11 running but see the nouvau bugs in the dmesg output
[01:38] <Bashing-om> nearst: I keep looking.
[01:38] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: darn
[01:38] <irimi> that is why I want to not load nouveau et all during boot
[01:38] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: that could be an option. try the reinstall and tomorrow worry about the ethernet
[01:39] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: so
[01:39] <Psil0Cybin> lets say today i ran into that problem again that you helped me on
[01:39] <Psil0Cybin> so you are saying it was becasue it was not configured properly to boot off everything else?
[01:39] <Psil0Cybin> just the ET something or EF?
[01:39] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: you have this text log right?
[01:39] <Psil0Cybin> yea, I am going to print it off.
[01:39] <nearst> Bashing-om: oh. i found it. its from that opencl apps. just purge and reconfigure xserver-xorg. now it working. gonna log out to gui :D. brb
[01:40] <Psil0Cybin> ughhit
[01:40] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO:
[01:40] <Psil0Cybin> I do not have the text log!!
[01:40] <Psil0Cybin> cleared the screen much above, could you peraps pastebin me a link
[01:40] <Psil0Cybin> of the whole logs
[01:40] <Psil0Cybin> so let me just double check
[01:40] <Psil0Cybin> attempt to reinstall server/ repartition/ reraid.
[01:41] <Psil0Cybin> perhaps I will do the ex4, swap and then EF?
[01:41] <Psil0Cybin> when I label the partitions?
[01:41] <Bender> Hey all. Is there a way to get your mysql password if you have forgotten it?
[01:41] <Bender> Or will I need to remove/reinstall
[01:42] <jzk1> So I upgraded to 13.10... I was dropped into this gnome-shell thing which is like incomplete as far as usability goes
[01:42] <jzk1> I can't believe something like this was shipped
[01:42] <Psil0Cybin> sorry hitsujiTMO just that last question
[01:42] <Psil0Cybin> before i attempt this all over again :'(
[01:43] <p0wder> irimi:  have you tried to replace the drivers with geforce?
[01:43] <glitsj16> Psil0Cybin: fyi, this channel (and many ubuntu-related ones) are logged, you can always get to them at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[01:43] <Psil0Cybin> oh was not sure! thanks
[01:43] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: hmm. my #ubuntu.log is 19mb ... goota prune it a bit
[01:43] <irimi> p0wder: there is no ubuntu on the system yet; I am just running a plain livecd :)
[01:43] <psusi> Bender, iirc the mysql root password is defined in the config file
[01:43] <irimi> p0wder: and would be able to install ubuntu, however
[01:45] <glitsj16> irimi: can you disable your GPU in BIOS? just to try and get around the nouveau bug(s)?
[01:45] <Psil0Cybin> i cant find
[01:45] <Psil0Cybin> a
[01:45] <irimi> searched for it, not found in the bios nor as a hardware switch :(
[01:45] <Psil0Cybin> alink to this log specifically.
[01:45] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: ok. actually http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/01/07/%23ubuntu.txt and http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/01/08/%23ubuntu.txt contains the lot
[01:46] <Psil0Cybin> okay thanks hitsujiTMO
[01:46] <Psil0Cybin> i am off to stress out some more, i really hope i figure this out
[01:46] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: the main thing is to try and make sure the efi system partition mounts to /boot/efi
[01:46] <glitsj16> irimi: perhaps the minimal cd, that has a text (ncurses) based installer .. just thinking out loud
[01:47] <Psil0Cybin> /boot/efi
[01:47] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: that could be where the issue is. hopefully someone else may be able to chime in if you get stuck
[01:47] <Psil0Cybin> would it specify that because before remember it just said EFIBOOT
[01:47] <irimi> glitsj16: so can I just use the ubuntu server installer and then install it (text mode) and in the end install X by hand ?
[01:47] <Psil0Cybin> so i was confused
[01:47] <Psil0Cybin> why it just said EFIboot and didnt give a directory or anything
[01:47] <glitsj16> !minimal | irimi
[01:48] <irimi> glitsj16: ok, burning yet another one then... thx :)
[01:48] <Psil0Cybin> the 2.0 tb was the ex4, then 16 gb was the EFI and the other was the swap
[01:48] <Psil0Cybin> right hitsujiTMO
[01:48] <Psil0Cybin> sorry lastssst question
[01:48] <glitsj16> irimi: not a way around nouveau heh, goodluck
[01:48] <Beldar> irimi, This a uefi W8 computer?
[01:48] <irimi> glitsj16: ugh, wait, that's just 36MB big, can I use an usb stick for that, too?
[01:49] <irimi> Beldar: yes, uefi-enabled
[01:49] <glitsj16> irimi: sure, same procedure as for a DVD
[01:50] <Beldar> irimi, Ah, have you resized windows with it's partitioner leaving a unallocated and imaged it and made a recovery disc?
[01:50] <hitsujiTMO> glitsj16: minimal doesnt work from usb and isnt uefi capable
[01:50] <Emery> Can anyone help me use root?
[01:50] <Beldar> I figured the mini was not efi as well
[01:50] <glitsj16> hitsujiTMO: ouch ... thanks .. nothing but rabbitholes it seems
[01:50] <irimi> Beldar: I did not get into anything as nouvau does not let me display anything but black pixels. so no, I did not change a bit on the disk yet (though, I don't care about loosing W8 on it)
[01:50] <Emery> How do I use root please?
[01:50] <Emery> I want to enable the root account
[01:51] <rww> !sudo
[01:51] <rww> !noroot
[01:51] <Emery> not sudo
[01:51] <Emery> i want root
[01:51] <Beldar> irimi, Sure, however you have a gpt partition table, so good luck.
[01:51] <rww> see second factoid, then
[01:51] <Emery> that doesn't apply
[01:51] <Emery> i need a root acc
[01:51] <Emery> to install chrome
[01:51] <irimi> Beldar: did that for my desktop pc already. it's working :)
[01:51] <rww> no you don't, and see second factoid, wherein you will learn we do not support this.
[01:51] <nearst> Emery, use sudo apt-get install google-chrome
[01:51] <Emery> i tried that
[01:52] <Emery> it said i need root
[01:52] <Beldar> irimi, Same manufacturer?
[01:52] <rww> because you didn't put sudo in front of it
[01:52] <Emery> someone said to do, rm -rf /*
[01:52] <Emery> but that didnt work
[01:52] <Emery> :(
[01:52] <irimi> Beldar: no. one is desktop pc, the other one is my (new) laptop; as said, uefi is not the problem here :)
[01:52] <Emery> man i dont understand ubuntu
[01:52] <hitsujiTMO> Emery: install the deb from chome site. then sudo apt-get -f install
[01:52] <elky> Emery: that's a bad thing to do. don't listen to that person anymore.
[01:53] <Emery> so how do i install windows on ubuntu?
[01:53] <Emery> if i dont want to use it
[01:53] <Beldar> irimi, Just noting that the manufacturers have done their own voodoo on uefi...etc si be aware is all.
[01:53] <elky> in a virtual machine
[01:53] <Beldar> so*
[01:53] <Emery> virtual machine?
[01:53] <Emery> so my CD wont work?
[01:53] <daniel_> Emery:windows is an entirely different opperating system Emery
[01:53] <Emery> this guy told me if i put the CD in, I could install it
[01:54] <elky> Emery: i have a distinct feeling you're only here to waste our time
[01:54] <Emery> huh?
[01:54] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: the 200mb was efi, 2tb wat root and 16gb was swap
[01:54] <Emery> elky i'm trying to understand how it works
[01:54] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: your the best. good night ill talk to you tomorrow. ill stop messaging you tonight :D
[01:54] <Emery> so can I install windows games on ubuntu?
[01:54] <Psil0Cybin> if it does not work ill try not to stress and work it tomorrow.
[01:54] <nearst> lol. what happen here :)) arguing old topic
[01:54] <fer755> Emery: ubuntu dont have root for security reason.
[01:54] <elky> Emery: depends on the game.
[01:54] <Psil0Cybin> at least hitsujiTMO you helped me alot with raid systems.
[01:54] <nearst> Emery, yes. u can use wine
[01:55] <az4z3l> elky: I got that same impression.
[01:55] <Emery> wine? what is that
[01:55] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: cool. gnight
[01:55] <elky> if you don't know this, you should never have root
[01:55] <rww> !wine
[01:55] <Emery> oh!
[01:55] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: you will be on tomorrowish right?
[01:55] <Psil0Cybin> at some point
[01:55] <Emery> so can I enable root to use wine?
[01:55] <Psil0Cybin> what is the best time to reach you on IRC?
[01:55] <Psil0Cybin> ill go to the office then lol
[01:55] <rww> Emery: sure, but we're not going to tell you how
[01:55] <nearst> no need root, why root ? :D
[01:55] <az4z3l> Emery: sudo su
[01:55] <p0wder> Emery:  restart your computer press f9 and select to boot from cd and have your windows cd in there
[01:55] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: yup will do. I should be on most of the day
[01:55] <Emery> why would I reboot?
[01:55] <glitsj16> Emery: http://ubuntu-manual.org/downloads might be usefull
[01:55] <az4z3l> Emery: then enter your password.
[01:56] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: amazing ty! your the best...actually...you help me all the time i relaly wish i could repay you eventually.
[01:56] <Emery> so let me get this right
[01:56] <Emery> you CANT install windows on ubuntu
[01:56] <Emery> at all?
[01:56] <wtflux> why cant you?
[01:56] <Emery> idk
[01:56] <Emery> im confused
[01:56] <elky> windows is not a program. windows is an alternative to ubuntu. you can install operating systems like windows and ubuntu in virtual machines.
[01:56] <Mongo44> Anyone read some good books?
[01:56] <az4z3l> Emery: There is no real reason to. Just dual boot. Google 'dual boot with ubuntu and windows'
[01:56] <nearst> u can install. but on VM
[01:56] <Emery> OH so windows is an operating system, i see!
[01:57] <lavadarkshadow> hi
[01:57] <lavadarkshadow> hi
[01:57] <lavadarkshadow> hi
[01:57] <FloodBot1> lavadarkshadow: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:57] <elky> az4z3l: don't bother, he's here to get everyone's attenton and waste their time.
[01:57] <wtflux> why cant i run ubuntu on fat16 filesystem
[01:57] <wtflux> ?
[01:57] <daniel_> Emery:ITS TWO DIFFERENT OPERATING SYSTEMS you have to partition the drive to a dual boot setup and then load a bootloader like GRUB
[01:57] <Emery> right so what about OSX?
[01:57] <Emery> someone said that's pretty much linux
[01:57] <nearst> why is subjective
[01:57] <fer755> Emery u can install ubuntu in windows too whit a virtual machine sofware
[01:57] <wtflux> im trying to setup ubuntu with fat16 can someone plz help
[01:57] <nearst> !man
[01:57] <Emery> surely if that's linux also, i can run that?
[01:57] <daniel_> Emery:dude how old are you?
[01:58] <Emery> 14
[01:58] <Emery> why?
[01:58] <psusi> wtflux, because fat doesn't support unix features like ownership, permissions, and symbolic and hard links
[01:58] <elky> Emery: ask them. they forbid it in their EULA iirc
[01:58] <az4z3l> elky: ya, as soon as I saw 'windows is an operating system' I went back to my work
[01:58] <Emery> elky so it is possible?
[01:58] <wtflux> what about fat32
[01:58] <Emery> but not allowed?
[01:58] <punto> hi.. when I run "update-manager -d" it tells me I can upgrade to 14.04, but that's too unstable for me, how do I get it to show 13.10 as an option?
[01:58] <elky> Emery: i've never done it. i don't use osx.
[01:58] <wtflux> or are you thinking NTSF?
[01:58] <psusi> wtflux, same thing...
[01:58] <elky> Emery: meanwhile you're going to start asking reasonable questions and stop trolling this channel
[01:58] <Emery> right so can i install ubuntu on osx?
[01:58] <Beldar> punto, From 12.04 you have to go through 13.04 to get there.
[01:58] <Emery> if that's linux?
[01:58] <rww> punto: -c instead of -d
[01:58] <elky> wtflux: you know the answers to these questions.
[01:59] <daniel_> punto:you download it from a server and re install it
[01:59] <wtflux> ?
[01:59] <p0wder> Emery:  u dont need that much power at your level
[01:59] <Beldar> punto, and 12.10
[01:59] <psusi> Emery, you can install it *beside* osx and dual boot
[01:59] <Emery> p0wder, OSX is too much power?
[01:59] <nearst> punto, safe upgrade would be sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade / sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:59] <fer755> az4z3l hahahahha
[01:59] <Emery> why is osx too much power
[01:59] <p0wder> nonono
[01:59] <psusi> Emery, and osx is not linux
[01:59] <elky> p0wder: don't feed the troll
[01:59] <Emery> psusi, it is?
[01:59] <Emery> this dude was like those fags in #ubuntu are such retards
[01:59] <daniel_> Emery: i would leave before you embarrs yourself any further
[01:59] <Emery> I was like LOL
[02:00] <nearst> lol
[02:00] <daniel_> Emery:I would leave before you embarrased yourself any more
[02:00] <az4z3l> daniel_: He isn't embarrassing himself, he is just trying to get attention. Just ignore him
[02:00] <punto> nearst: doesn't update-manager do something else to the installation, like upgrade the apt sources and stuff?
[02:00] <rww> daniel_: they already got helped out, and don't feed the troll
[02:00] <rww> punto: sigh, just use -c instead of -d
[02:01] <daniel_> rww:i was trying to help sorry if i didnt
[02:01] <nearst> punto, doesnt matter. that the older told me :D
[02:01] <rww> manual updates using sources.lists changes and dist-upgrade aren't supported here, in this house we use update-manager or do-release-upgrade :P
[02:02] <punto> how broken is 14.04 anyway?
[02:02] <spearhead> it is still in alpha, expect it to break at least once a day
[02:03] <nearst> rww, wise "in this house" :P
[02:03] <Beldar> sigh, lol dist-upgrade is supported
[02:04] <Beldar> once and only time I would sigh, it's a mimic
[02:05] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys
[02:05] <Psil0Cybin> anyone know anything about raiding a system
[02:06] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, don't ask to ask, just ask your real question
[02:07] <punto> don't ask to ask, that's rude, first ask if it's ok to ask about asking quesions, some channels don't like that
[02:07] <rww> Beldar: it's not supported in here. as in, we do not support it. it's technically possible. it is not something we help with.
[02:07] <Bashing-om>   nearst: Did I miss your update.. unity all good now ?
[02:08] <Beldar> rww, Hmm, I would disagree all it is, is a in distro upgrade needed from the cli for kernels....etc
[02:08] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: i have a raid5 device hitsjiTMO was helping me but hes gone
[02:08] <Psil0Cybin> i have 3 raid decides as one
[02:08] <Psil0Cybin> trying to install ubuntu server
[02:08] <Psil0Cybin> i made a /boot/efi but it labeled it as fat32
[02:08] <Psil0Cybin> and says i cannot do that
[02:08] <nearst> Bashing-om, yea. it working again. bugs in python3-pyopencl. just purge and reconfigure back xserver-org. and it working back. its kinda like Hybrid GPU problem
[02:09] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, I recently got myself 3 WD 1tb blue drives and set up a raid10... it's as fast at sequential reads as raid0, and does't suffer the random write problems raid5 has
[02:09] <elky> punto: it's not rude to ask if it's ok. it's just a waste of time in a channel like this which is for people to ask question in.
[02:09] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: so what should i do i have 1TB blue drives
[02:09] <Psil0Cybin> 3 of them
[02:09] <Psil0Cybin> i think perhaps even the same ones you do
[02:09] <Psil0Cybin> i tried to do it as raid 5
[02:09] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, what *exactly* does it say?
[02:10] <psusi> I didn't set mine up to boot in EFI mode, but it should work
[02:10] <Psil0Cybin> psusi i have Raid5 device #125 196.1 MB K fat32 /boot/efi
[02:10] <Psil0Cybin> raid5 decicde 17.1 gbg linux swap
[02:10] <Psil0Cybin> 2.0 tb ext4
[02:10] <Psil0Cybin> says it cannot find the O.S
[02:10] <Psil0Cybin> and when i boot taking out the USB
[02:10] <Psil0Cybin> it says it cannot boot
[02:10] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:10] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, ohh, the efi partition can't be on the raid
[02:11] <Psil0Cybin> Ohhhhh!
[02:11] <psusi> though I'm actually surprised that the installer catches that
[02:11] <Psil0Cybin> so psusi what do i do?
[02:11] <Psil0Cybin> someone said
[02:11] <Psil0Cybin> to make one the EFIBoot
[02:11] <Psil0Cybin> one the Swap
[02:11] <Psil0Cybin> one the Root
[02:11] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:11] <psusi> either create a single stand alone partition for it on one disk, or I think you can create a separate partition on each disk and put them in a raid1
[02:12] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: so should i resinstall and start over?
[02:12] <Psil0Cybin> or can i  change all this in the raid menu
[02:12] <Psil0Cybin> that i am in now
[02:12] <Psil0Cybin> I am in guided partition
[02:12] <Psil0Cybin> configure software raid
[02:12] <psusi> you should be able to change it
[02:12] <Psil0Cybin> etc but i already raided most of it
[02:12] <Psil0Cybin> so what do i do now becasue from what I see, i have the 3 raided dedvices.
[02:12] <psusi> well, then you'll have to delete the raid and start the partitioning over
[02:12] <Psil0Cybin> and the 3 hard drives seperate under.
[02:12] <Psil0Cybin> so go to guided partition
[02:12] <Psil0Cybin> and start over?
[02:13] <Psil0Cybin> can u help me with this psusi?
[02:13] <psusi> you need a total of 6 partitions... 2 on each drive, one small and in a raid1 for /boot/efi, and the other for the raid5
[02:13] <nearst> !raid
[02:13] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: so start over? or can i reraid the things I have now?
[02:13] <Psil0Cybin> so if i go to guided parttioning
[02:13] <psusi> back up and start the partitioning over
[02:13] <Psil0Cybin> can i remove everything i did?
[02:13] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[02:13] <psusi> you want manual partitioning
[02:13] <vocx> !enter| Psil0Cybin
[02:14] <punto> elky: that's what I'm saying, since some channels don't like it when you ask if you can ask a question, first you have to ask if it's ok to ask about asking questions
[02:14] <Psil0Cybin> i went to manual psusi and it gives me the same menu with all my partitons but i cannot remove them or do anything to them
[02:14] <Psil0Cybin> nvm delete partition see it
[02:14] <Psil0Cybin> one second
[02:14] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, less use of the enter key please ;)
[02:15] <elky> punto: yeah, don't call people rude for it though, it makes them sad and they go away instead of asking
[02:15] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: i remove all data from all raid devices, all partitions and start over? Sorry just double checking right now its Erasing data on RAID5 decide #125
[02:15] <Psil0Cybin> it should remove the raid on top of the partitions?
[02:18] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: it still shows all the raids and all the partitons
[02:18] <Psil0Cybin> i cannot figure out how to remove everything that I have done.
[02:20] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: i earsing the data on raid5 device #126
[02:20] <Psil0Cybin> but i dunno if this will do anything
[02:20] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, yes, you need to remove the raid arrays, and then the partitions they are built on
[02:20] <Psil0Cybin> or all i am doing is messing up everything
[02:20] <Psil0Cybin> welll i tried to earase a raid, but it still shows up...
[02:20] <Psil0Cybin> on that manual partition menu.
[02:20] <Psil0Cybin> i am trying the second one
[02:20] <Psil0Cybin> but it just says to erase the raid, it does not eliminate anything off the list
[02:20] <psusi> I believe "erase" writes zeros to the partition... no need to do that... you want to delete the raid
[02:20] <Psil0Cybin> or do i need to delete the MD Tables now?
[02:20] <Psil0Cybin> ah psusi so what do i do?
[02:21] <psusi> you have to remove the raid before you can remove the partitions.... then again, maybe it would just be easier to reboot and start at square one ;)
[02:21] <Psil0Cybin> i removed two of the raids
[02:21] <Psil0Cybin> it says one is currently in us though
[02:21] <Psil0Cybin> what i do..
[02:22] <vocx> !enter | Psil0Cybin
[02:22] <Psil0Cybin> it wont let me delete
[02:22] <Psil0Cybin> md126_raid5
[02:22] <Psil0Cybin> says it is in use. psusi.
[02:22] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, reign in your add there a bit and resist hitting enter before you have finished your thought please.  Just reboot and start over...
[02:23] <Ash076> o7
[02:23] <Psil0Cybin> okay psusi.
[02:23] <Ash076> Long time wannabe, First time user!
[02:23] <Ash076> so...I have a few questions...
[02:23] <Psil0Cybin> that is what i did psusi i hope this time it will not say that the raid is currently being used because i did start over to get back into that menu..i am hoping that perhaps it was jut being used for what i was doing by accident and now it might be able to be removed.
[02:24] <somsip> Ash076: ask one at a time, provide full details...
[02:25] <drobuddy> Hey guys. Anyone have experience troubleshooting usb0? When I was tethering before it worked out of the box, but I went to use it tonight (after ~2 mos) and it isnt comping up clean. `ip link show` shows the state as unknown...
[02:25] <Ash076> I am creating a pc in an ammo can, for the mental stimulation. I have a pretty low-end mobo and found out that it won't support 13.10 or 12.04. What is a good version of Ubuntu to try on older or low-end hardware? (maybe 10.10?)
[02:26] <kostkon> Ash076, lubuntu 12.04 or lubuntu 13.10. 10.10 is eol
[02:27] <drobuddy> I had to enable Wireless HotSpot to get on IRC just to ask as my S4 irc client wouldn't properly auth my nick :(
[02:27] <drobuddy> I really should get around to root my phone, lol.
[02:27] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: once i remove all raids, and partitions get it back to normal
[02:27] <Psil0Cybin> will you help me with raiding it, since i think we have the same hd.
[02:27] <Ash076> What does "eol" stand for?
[02:27] <drobuddy> eol = end of life
[02:27] <Psil0Cybin> i have 3 of the 1.0 tb wb blue
[02:27] <spearhead> end of line
[02:27] <Psil0Cybin> WB 1 TB Sata 3.5 Desktop Hard Drive
[02:28] <Ash076> ah. So there are versions named Lubuntu 12.4 & 13.10?
[02:29] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, create a 100 MB partition on all 3 drives and another partition with the rest... add the small partitions to a raid1, and the big ones to a raid5
[02:29] <Beldar> Ash076, the numbers are the releases, lubuntu is the desktop
[02:30] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: sorry that is a big confusing I am new to this whole raiding thing :P could you perhaps help me step by step even though I am aware...it is very difficult for you to do this
[02:30] <Psil0Cybin> I have the 3 partitoins now
[02:30] <Psil0Cybin> removed all raid
[02:30] <Psil0Cybin> so i am back to step 1.
[02:30] <Psil0Cybin> not 3 partitions sorry 3 hard drives showing up!
[02:30] <Psil0Cybin> 1.0 TB each on, each hard drive.
[02:31] <Psil0Cybin> so i click on the first one and it says create a new partiton or autoatically partition the free space.
[02:31] <Psil0Cybin> so i go to create a new partition
[02:31] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, this is pretty simple... on each of the 3 drives, do the same thing: create one 100 MB partition, and one partition using the rest of the space... then build a raid1 array using the small partitions, and a raid5 using the big partitions
[02:31] <Ash076> I just googled it. It was as I suspected. L stands for Lightweight.
[02:31] <Ash076> will it have the same "feel" as the 'heavier' versions?
[02:31] <Beldar> Ash076, Is the mother board pre pae kernel use? What is the exact reason for the no 12.04 or 13.10 support?
[02:32] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: it asks Location for the new partition
[02:32] <Psil0Cybin> Beginning or End
[02:32] <Psil0Cybin> for the 200 MB on the first Drive.
[02:32] <psusi> beginning
[02:32] <Psil0Cybin> 100mb**
[02:32] <drobuddy> Yup. I usually build my raid arrays with the /root at the beginning and build out from there.
[02:32] <Psil0Cybin> so
[02:32] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: first one it says for the partition 100mb, Use as:
[02:33] <Psil0Cybin> what do I select, for Us as.
[02:33] <Psil0Cybin> and Mount points
[02:33] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, use as raid of course... no mount point
[02:33] <Ash076> Beldar...I wish i knew. I'm thinking it may be the mobo, but I know that the mobo WILL run Opensuse 12.XX
[02:33] <drobuddy> Psil0Cybin: I'll sit quietly as psusi seems to have you covered. I'll only interject if needed :)
[02:33] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: no raid option when it says us as: ext4 ext3 ext2 resiserFS btrfs jfs xfs fat16 fat 32
[02:33] <Psil0Cybin> swap area
[02:33] <Psil0Cybin> reserved bios boot area
[02:34] <Psil0Cybin> oh woops physical voume for raid
[02:34] <Psil0Cybin> !
[02:34] <Ash076> I just decided t ogo wih ubuntu bcz it's...Prettier and has a GUI that I interface better with.
[02:34] <Beldar> Ash076, What brought you to that conclusion, I guess is a better question.
[02:34] <buklau> im using ubuntu 12.04lts, and it keeps disconnecting me from my internet, im on a wireless connection, what could be the problem
[02:34] <drobuddy> buklau: What's your wifi card? Could be a variety of things...
 oh woops physical voume for raid ~ that's more like it !!
[02:34] <Psil0Cybin> bootable flag?
[02:34] <Psil0Cybin> leave it off for now?
[02:35] <Psil0Cybin> sorry guys just scared i might mess up again on something very small :(
[02:35] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, hrm... on...
[02:35] <kop> Psil0Cybin, what are you trying to do ?
[02:35] <buklau> drobuddy, im not sure what my wifi card is, i will look it up right now
[02:35] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: wont let me turn bootable flag on
[02:35] <Psil0Cybin> just says off
[02:35] <drobuddy> k
[02:35] <psusi> poo... might be a bug in the installer... is there a reason you are trying to use UEFI?
[02:35] <Psil0Cybin> what do i do psusi if it doesnt let me put the bootable flag on
[02:35] <hermis2014> hey
[02:36] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: no
[02:36] <Psil0Cybin> i just want all my 3 TB hard drives to be one
[02:36] <Psil0Cybin> it seems like so much work :(
[02:36] <Ash076> Beldar; I installed opensuse 12.xx on it and it runs fine. I downloaded both Ubuntu 13.10 and it just won't get past the loading screen. It appears to be a graphics issue.
[02:36] <Ash076> On my high-end rig, 13.10 installs and runs effortlessly. (mind you, that has 6gb ram and a 650Ti card.)
[02:36] <hermis2014> There is a new coin out Mooncoin rate is 0.00000001
[02:36] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, lol.. then screw UEFI, just go back to using a single partition as a raid5 ;)
[02:36] <hermis2014> great profit opportunity
[02:36] <Psil0Cybin> okay psusi so how do i dooo that >.<
[02:36] <Psil0Cybin> bah
[02:36] <Psil0Cybin> i am stuck at the parttitions section
[02:36] <drobuddy> So, anyone have experience troubleshooting usb tethering? usb0 is shown as connected in systray, but when I do `ip link show` it shows the state as UNKNOWN... I've tried up/down and it says device unknown, even tho it's clearly  being recognized by Ubuntu 13.04
[02:36] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, like you did the first time but forget about setting up a /boot/efi
[02:36] <Psil0Cybin> so i follow your inscrutions create the 2 partitons 100 mb, than continue folowing it?
[02:37] <Psil0Cybin> bah! so just leave /boot/efi out?
[02:37] <Psil0Cybin> and just have a root and swap?
[02:37] <Psil0Cybin> what do i do with the third parttiion?
[02:37] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, yep... don't need a third partition
[02:37] <Beldar> Ash076, Are you familiar with a low graphic boot IE nomodeset or failsafe X  ?
[02:37] <Psil0Cybin> kk so i deleted all partitions again psusi sorry lets do this slowly.
[02:37] <Psil0Cybin> so one 100mb, on each partition
[02:37] <Psil0Cybin> and what else?
[02:38] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, no 100mb... that's for ueif
[02:38] <Psil0Cybin> oh woops
[02:38] <psusi> uefi rather
[02:38] <drobuddy> Psil0Cybin, you should have /boot, /root/, /swap, and have the rest allocated to everything else at the very least... Depending on your needs.
[02:38] <somsip> Psil0Cybin: Less 'stream of consciousness' and more 'one long line without pressing ENTER!'
[02:38] <psusi> drobuddy, don't need /boot
[02:38] <drobuddy> psusi: Oh, my bad.
[02:38] <Psil0Cybin> so what would i do...than sorry guys I am sooo new to this raiding thing and very confused.....I am still at the second that I see ALL 3 hard drives, I need help partitioning.
[02:38] <hermis2014> coinedup.com MoonCoin rate at 0.00000001
[02:38] <drobuddy> I'll shut up in order to not confuse him
[02:38] <buklau> drobuddy, a ethernet controller is a wifi card right?
[02:38] <somsip> hermis2014: not here.
[02:38] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: could you outline, exactly which partitions I need to create?
[02:39] <Beldar> !spam | hermis2014
[02:39] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: since now i do not need to create the efi?
[02:39]  * wobblywu2 bangs there head on a desk
[02:39] <drobuddy> buklau: wlan0 should be your wireless card
[02:39] <Psil0Cybin> 500mbs? each?
[02:39] <hermis2014> anyone interested?
[02:39] <buklau> drobuddy, k just a moment
[02:39] <drobuddy> eth0 would be the first NIC that is used for ethernet
[02:39] <somsip> !ot | hermis2014
[02:39] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, one partition at the end for swap... rest in the big partition, set both to be raid phsical volume
[02:40] <Psil0Cybin> drobuddy: psusi so what would my partitions be? please guys help me out by saying hard drive one has 3 partitions being .......
[02:40] <Psil0Cybin> hard drive two has....
[02:40] <Ash076> Beldar, Nope. anything you tell me will be new to me, and I can try it immediately.
[02:40] <Psil0Cybin> I am jusg getting confused when it comes to raiding them and setting up how big each partition is
[02:40] <sixtustha5> hello all
[02:40] <Psil0Cybin> and which partition does what
[02:40] <Psil0Cybin> I am assuming the biggest partition on each drive is my root
[02:40] <Psil0Cybin> next goes swap?
[02:40] <Beldar> !nomodeset | Ash076
[02:40] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, yep, one big one for the *raid* that will be root, one small for the *raid* that will be swap
[02:41] <buklau> drobuddy, its not showing it in the lspci
[02:41] <Psil0Cybin> so how do i split up a 1 TB hard drive into partitions for this psuisi
[02:41] <Psil0Cybin> sorry I really need to just be spoon fed for this one aspect.
[02:41] <Beldar> Ash076, From the live boot hit f6 at first gui and tick nomodeset.
[02:41] <Psil0Cybin> I never delt with this raid issues :P blah
[02:41] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, hell, for that matter you can skip the swap if you want
[02:41] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: that just made me even more confused psusi sorry...
[02:41] <Psil0Cybin> I am so lost :(
[02:41] <Ash076> Beldar, will that work if i don't have any card installed?
[02:41] <drobuddy> Psil0Cybin: No worries. I remember setting up my first array. Have you checked out: https://raid.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/RAID_setup#General_setup
[02:41] <drobuddy> ?
[02:41] <Psil0Cybin> yea drobuddy i am sooo confused tho
[02:41] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, just make one big partition for the whole drive and set its usage to be raid ;)
[02:41] <Psil0Cybin> becasue i followed all steps
[02:42] <Psil0Cybin> and i coudnt even boot up the O.S!
[02:42] <drobuddy> It's a little verbose but gives a great explanation
[02:42] <Psil0Cybin> this is my second time trying thats why i am a little frustrated.
[02:42] <drobuddy> Yeah, the first time is always the hardest ;)
[02:42] <Beldar> Ash076, Hmm, so you are not wanting a X IE desktop?
[02:42] <Psil0Cybin> yea haa
[02:42] <Psil0Cybin> so now i have the 3 TB hard drives.
[02:42] <drobuddy> It's still your first time until you get it to work
[02:42] <Psil0Cybin> I would make one partition 500 Gb?
[02:42] <Psil0Cybin> one 200GB
[02:42] <Psil0Cybin> ?
[02:42] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, no, 1tb
[02:42] <Psil0Cybin> but6 then ill have 1 partition
[02:42] <Psil0Cybin> on each hard drive...
[02:42] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, that's exactly what I just said
[02:42] <Psil0Cybin> Okay! perfect then!
[02:42] <Ash076> Beldar, I don't know what that is. :(
[02:43] <Psil0Cybin> let me do this one second
[02:43] <Psil0Cybin> see this is why i was confused
[02:43] <buklau> drobuddy, is there another command in where i can find what kind of wifi card i have?
[02:43] <Psil0Cybin> okay psusi
[02:43] <Psil0Cybin> so I made the 1 TB partition
[02:43] <Psil0Cybin> I use it as , /
[02:43] <drobuddy> buklau: Honestly, I don't know if there is a cmd... I always refer to my manufacturer's specs. Easy to find on Google...
[02:43] <Psil0Cybin> correct?
[02:43] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:43] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, no, you use it as raid
[02:43] <drobuddy> For example, google "HP Pavilion {version} specs"
[02:43] <Beldar> Ash076, X is the gui desktop basically, not sure about no cards and having a desktop to be honest.
[02:43] <Psil0Cybin> okay psusi use as raid
[02:44] <Psil0Cybin> but it will not let me turn off bootable flag
[02:44] <Psil0Cybin> to on
[02:44] <Psil0Cybin> it stays on OFF
[02:44] <Beldar> card*
[02:44] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, / will go on the *raid* device... which is built out of the partitions
[02:44] <buklau> drobuddy, alright ill look again, give me a min
[02:44] <drobuddy> With your manufacturer and version, respectively.
[02:44] <Ash076> Ah...WELL!  I'm not getting anywhere myself.
[02:44] <Psil0Cybin> okay psusi
[02:44] <Psil0Cybin> i have 1 TB in RAID
[02:44] <Psil0Cybin> what do i do on the next hard drive. another 1 TB?
[02:44] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, yes, all 3 exactly the same
[02:45] <Psil0Cybin> ugh
[02:45] <Psil0Cybin> the second partition is asking
[02:45] <Psil0Cybin> Type for the new prtition
[02:45] <culpn8r> \o/
[02:45] <Psil0Cybin> Primary or Logical?
[02:45] <wobblywu2> LOgical i guess
[02:46] <Psil0Cybin> Use as ?
[02:46] <drobuddy> I'm going to idle until some of these convos quiet down. Hopefully then somone with a networking background can help me get my damn tethering working again... I doubt an update borked it, but I can't think of why else it's not recognized anymore :(
[02:46] <Psil0Cybin> raid as well psusi it asks Use as?
[02:46] <Psil0Cybin> after I hit logical for the next partition
[02:46] <Psil0Cybin> raid?
[02:46] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, ok ok ok... reboot and start over... the first thing you need to do is create the partition table... pick msdos, not gpt... and make the partitions primary when you get asked that
[02:46] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: ....what.....turn off the computer and start over? completely?
[02:47] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, it sounds like you picked gpt on the first disk and msdos on the second.. you want them to be the same
[02:47] <Guest21932> is windows 8 any good ?
[02:47] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, yes.... start over from scratch... think of it as good practice ;)
[02:47] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: I never picked anything that said MSDOS?
[02:47] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: okay can you guide me through this though please......
[02:47] <drobuddy> Guest21932: Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for those questions. This isn't the right place...
[02:47] <Psil0Cybin> I have started over 10 times, and cannot get passed the raid.
[02:47] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, maybe the disk was already partitioned then... either way, you need to create a whole new msdos partition table
[02:48] <Psil0Cybin> what psusi So what do i doooo...
[02:48] <Psil0Cybin> I am now starting over...
[02:48] <Psil0Cybin> I will remove all partitions
[02:48] <Psil0Cybin> can you help me from that point on?!
[02:48] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, I forget exactly what the option was... might be create disk label... will wipe out any existing partitions
[02:48] <Psil0Cybin> do not see create disk label
[02:48] <Psil0Cybin> started over
[02:49] <drobuddy> RAID used to be so much easier before they changed the install wizard...
[02:49] <Psil0Cybin> already in attempting IPv6 auto config
[02:49] <Psil0Cybin> re entering host name
[02:49] <Psil0Cybin> one second
[02:49] <psusi> drobuddy, don't think it's been changed
[02:49] <Psil0Cybin> and ill be back to the parttiion menu.
[02:49] <drobuddy> Albeit, I usually only raid CentOS machines...
[02:49] <drobuddy> I'm pretty sure it used to have an 'Advanced' section which simplified the process, but I may be thinking of a different distro..
[02:50] <Psil0Cybin> Okay!
[02:50] <Psil0Cybin> I am in the Partition Disks!
[02:50] <psusi> hell, wasn't there even a guided - use entire disks in raid option? ;)
[02:50] <Psil0Cybin> it asks, Guided - Resize - Guided Use entire Disk- Guided Use the largest continous free space
[02:50] <Psil0Cybin> guided - use entire disk and set up LVM
[02:50] <Psil0Cybin> guided - use entire disk and set up encrutped LVM and manual
[02:50] <psusi> maybe not... manual then
[02:50] <Psil0Cybin> okay manual.
[02:50] <demophobia> !wireless
[02:50] <drobuddy> I better bet quiet while you walk him through this.
[02:50] <Psil0Cybin> i see all my parttions / Hard drives
[02:51] <Psil0Cybin> I see it created again 3 parttiions in each with a raid.
[02:51] <Psil0Cybin> sigh
[02:51] <Psil0Cybin> i have to now remove it all again
[02:51] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, there should be an option to create a new partition table or disk label on the disk
[02:51] <drobuddy> !tethering
[02:51] <drobuddy> Damn. I tried ;)
[02:51] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: just guided partitoning configure software raid
[02:51] <Psil0Cybin> configure the logical voume manager
[02:51] <Psil0Cybin> configure encrypted volumes
[02:51] <Psil0Cybin> configure ISCSI volumes
[02:51] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, no, after you choose manual
[02:51] <demophobia> oh no D: need help after all
[02:51] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: i am in manual
[02:51] <buklau> drobuddy, i cant find anythign specific with a wifi card
[02:52] <drobuddy> From personal experience, I highly recommend avoiding encrypted volumes unless you really know what you're doing. They are a pain to recover if you're not careful
[02:52] <Psil0Cybin> psusi:  I now see
[02:52] <demophobia> At https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsNetgear I click the link for WNA1100, but it -- http://sourceforge.net/projects/ath9...htc-installer/ -- leads to 'page not found' error
[02:52] <Psil0Cybin> all 3 hard drives, no parttitons
[02:52] <Psil0Cybin> within them all
[02:52] <Psil0Cybin> 1 TB each hard drive.
[02:52] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, instead of add or remove a partition, you want new partition table / disk label
[02:52] <Psil0Cybin> oh
[02:52] <VLanX> is there any chance with dd or anything else to read a file from and device and discard the data? In other words, I need to perform a true read benchmark on a remote NFS partition...
[02:52] <Psil0Cybin> i cannot find that option
[02:52] <demophobia> oh, but that was last updated 2 years ago
[02:52] <Psil0Cybin> i will keep looking
[02:52] <k_sze[work]> Which minor version of Python 3 brought back the u'' syntax? I forget. Was it 3.2?
[02:52] <demophobia> maybe i don't need to install anything after all ...
[02:52] <Psil0Cybin> OH I SEE
[02:52] <Psil0Cybin> new partition table
[02:52] <Psil0Cybin> so i select YES
[02:52] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:52] <buklau> drobuddy, i only see network card if that would work
[02:53] <drobuddy> buklau: PM me the manufacturer and version
[02:53] <drobuddy> buklau: Desktop or laptop?
[02:53] <Psil0Cybin> so now it says psusi: it will remove all existing raid parttions
[02:53] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, *breathe*... take a few seconds to finish your thought before you whack that enter key.
[02:53] <Psil0Cybin> on that hard drive I select YES
[02:53] <Psil0Cybin> sorry psusi: been on this nonsense all day long dealing with this since 10 AM, I am exausted and just want the O.S to boot up so i can call it a night, but thanks lte me take a deep breath ahd continue
[02:53] <psusi> yep, and pick msdos
[02:54] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: when I ceated the second parttion table, it never asks MSDOS or anything it just said it would remove and i selected yes
[02:54] <Psil0Cybin> and it wrote down right away pri/log
[02:54] <Psil0Cybin> beside the second 1 TB Free space.
[02:54] <Psil0Cybin> on the second hard drive, is this normal?
[02:54]  * demophobia returned the previous wireless adapter and now has > Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0846:9030 NetGear, Inc. WNA1100 Wireless-N 150 [Atheros AR9271]
[02:54] <psusi> ok, I think it may have picked the type by default and that's fine
[02:54] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[02:55] <psusi> now create your partition, primary, on all 3 disks, type set to raid physical volume
[02:55] <Psil0Cybin> okay psusi: so i follow you correctly
[02:55] <Psil0Cybin> i will have 1 partiton, in each drive, correct?
[02:55] <Akiva-Mobile> what is the chat for unity developers? I have an idea I want to propose
[02:56] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: when creating the second raid
[02:56] <Psil0Cybin> it asks primary or logical?
[02:57] <drobuddy> Any wireless tethering gurus in here? Mine is acting up. `ip link show` shows usb0's state as UNKNOWN, albeit recognized by Saucy and it used to work ~2 months ago.
[02:58] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, same thing on all 3 drives: one big primary partition, usage: raid
[02:58] <drobuddy> When I say recognized, it shows connected in the systray, but not when I run ifconfig usb0 down, et al.
[02:58] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: okay
[02:58] <Psil0Cybin> so now i have 3 hard drives, 1 partition each
[02:58] <Psil0Cybin> all raid.
[02:58] <drobuddy> It shows the device as being unrecognized when I check via CLI
[02:59] <Psil0Cybin> 1.0 TB each partition.
[02:59] <Psil0Cybin> do i hit finish parttioning and write changes to disk?
[02:59] <Psil0Cybin> or what do i do now.
[02:59] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, there should be an option to set up raid... it *might* be after you finish partitioning and write changes to disk
[02:59] <Beldar> Akiva-Mobile, I doubt there is one open to anyone, and I doubt it would be considered.
[03:00] <Psil0Cybin> there is psusi
[03:00] <Psil0Cybin> it says
[03:00] <Psil0Cybin> on top Configure Software Riad
[03:00] <psusi> hit that one
[03:00] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[03:00] <psusi> create a new raid5 array, and it will ask you what partitions to use.. check all 3
[03:00] <Psil0Cybin> ERror informing the kernel about modifcations to partition /dev/sda1 device or resource busy
[03:00] <Psil0Cybin> this mean lonux wont know about any chances to made to /dev/sda1 until yo9u reboot
[03:00] <Psil0Cybin> is that fine?\
[03:00] <psusi> ugh.... no
[03:00] <Psil0Cybin> ignore or cancel.
[03:01] <Beldar> Akiva-Mobile, This would have to be a go up the hierarchy sort of thing, there is a general new ubuntu idea post page, or there used to be anyway.
[03:01] <Psil0Cybin> ugh psusi: so it is not working?
[03:01] <drobuddy> I'm really surprised I can't find anything on Google or insight in here on tethering... Apparently it's used less than I thought (which, I'm only trying to use it due to dire straits at the moment).
[03:01] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, can you pick the erase option on each partition now?
[03:01] <Psil0Cybin> yes
[03:01] <Psil0Cybin> if i sleect a parttion
[03:02] <Psil0Cybin> i can see Erase data on this partition
[03:02] <Psil0Cybin> or
[03:02] <Psil0Cybin> Delete the partition
[03:02] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, do that, and reboot, and you should run straight back to the create raid array step.. the 3 partitions should still be there
[03:02] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, pick erase, not delete
[03:02] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, on all 3 partitions
[03:02] <Psil0Cybin> so erase each partition?
[03:02] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[03:02] <Akiva-Mobile> Beldar: I'd be passing it over, see what they think, and then looking to write a patch myself. Its a good practical idea.
[03:02] <Psil0Cybin> perfect
[03:02] <Psil0Cybin> says
[03:02] <Psil0Cybin> Data has not beeen erased
[03:02] <Psil0Cybin> Error Erasing data
[03:03] <Psil0Cybin> it wont let me erase.
[03:03] <psusi> blarg
[03:03] <Psil0Cybin> is there no easier way
[03:03] <Psil0Cybin> to remove all partitions and do this?
[03:04] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, ok... hit alt and right arrow and see if you get to a command prompt
[03:04] <Psil0Cybin> i do
[03:04] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, these 3 drives are the only ones in the system?  they were sda, sdb, and sdc?
[03:05] <Psil0Cybin> yes
[03:05] <Psil0Cybin> that is correct
[03:05] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, and they have nothing you want to keep on them?
[03:05] <Psil0Cybin> yes
[03:05] <Psil0Cybin> that is correct
[03:05] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:05] <Psil0Cybin> it is a brand new system.
[03:05] <Psil0Cybin> I just want to get Ubuntu Server O.S on it :'(
[03:05] <Beldar> Akiva-Mobile, Well good luck with that, this is support and not directly associated with canonical. ;)
[03:05] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, type dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1M count=1, then hit enter, then hit up, and change it to sdb and repeat, and again for sdc
[03:05] <Psil0Cybin> okay one second
[03:06] <Akiva-Mobile> Beldar: I presume they still want contributors to linux
[03:06] <Akiva-Mobile> ubuntu*
[03:06] <Psil0Cybin> if/dev/zero
[03:06] <Psil0Cybin> not found
[03:06] <Psil0Cybin> bin/s
[03:06] <pero> if=
[03:06] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, if=/dev/zero
[03:07] <Beldar> Akiva-Mobile, None of this is within the channel topic is all, so not sure other than the web to look where to point you myself.
[03:07] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[03:07] <Psil0Cybin> ran command for each one sba sdb sdc
[03:07] <Psil0Cybin> sda, sdb ,sdc
[03:07] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, and it said it wrote 1 MB?
[03:07] <Psil0Cybin> 1+0 records in 1+0 records out
[03:07] <Psil0Cybin> for each
[03:07] <Psil0Cybin> it said
[03:07] <Akiva-Mobile> Beldar: #ubuntu-unity
[03:07] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, actually, you know what.. do it again, only change the 1M to 2M just to be sure
[03:08] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[03:08] <Psil0Cybin> one second
[03:08] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, then reboot and you should be starting fresh with a clean slate
[03:08] <elky> Psil0Cybin: stop using enter every few words
[03:08] <Beldar> Akiva-Mobile, Cool, suggest away.
[03:08] <Psil0Cybin> sorry, thank you psusi i am rebooting now, and will ask you once I get to the parttion menu again is that okay?
[03:08] <drobuddy> Damn, I have to disconnect before I get charged for overages.
[03:08] <Psil0Cybin> I am just sooo lost when it comes to raid, systems....but I am slowly learning
[03:08] <drobuddy> I wish you all the best of luck with your respective endeavors.
[03:09] <drobuddy> Peace.
[03:09] <Psil0Cybin> ty drobuddy good night
[03:09] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, unfortunately, there are a few bugs you are running into when you don't do it right the first time and try to redo it
[03:09] <drobuddy> np, you too
[03:10] <Psil0Cybin> hopefully i get this solved, with the help of psusi.
[03:10] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: do u think i can solve this issue though now that we have done the following?
[03:10] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, yes, should be smooth sailing now... create the 3 partitions again, type raid, primary, then move on to the raid step
[03:10] <VLanX> Actually copying from FN to a ramdisk I can max-out the 1gbps link, with 95% idle on the CPU  :3
[03:10] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, you did repeat the dd with 2M on all 3 drives right?
[03:10] <Psil0Cybin> yes yes
[03:10] <psusi> smooth sailing now...
[03:10] <Psil0Cybin> i will msg you after i made the 3 primary raid partitions
[03:13] <Psil0Cybin> okay psusi: up to speed. all 3 primary 1.0 TB partitions
[03:13] <Psil0Cybin> seems like the thing u showed me fixed the bugs
[03:13] <Psil0Cybin> now i am going to configure software raid.
[03:13] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[03:13] <Psil0Cybin> now i am at create md device/delete md device/ finish
[03:14] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, now create the raid array, check all 3 partitions, and then you set the raid array ( md0 ) to be the root, ext4
[03:14] <psusi> and that should do it
[03:14] <Psil0Cybin> so it is asking what kind of raid do i want to create
[03:14] <Psil0Cybin> RAID0, raid1, raid5, raid6, raid10
[03:15] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: sorry i amgoing to ask you slowly, i really need to be spoon fed at this point so i do not have to do this all over again :P
[03:15] <Psil0Cybin> this is the one part i am worried about
[03:15] <Psil0Cybin> the next few steps if that is okay with you, sorry I am super lost...so I would select Raid 5 correct?
[03:15] <Psil0Cybin> at this step?
[03:16] <Eromej> Hello, is it normal my screen brightness lowers when I grab a window and snap it on the side? Ubuntu 12.04
[03:16] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, you wanted raid5, so yea
[03:17] <Psil0Cybin> okay cool, so i type 3 active devices for the raid5 array obviously.
[03:17] <Psil0Cybin> nbecause its 3 hard drives, correct?
[03:17] <psusi> yep, then pick the 3 partitions
[03:17] <benague> hey guys im new here just testing irc over ssh tunneling :))
[03:17] <Psil0Cybin> is says
[03:17] <Psil0Cybin> number of spare devices
[03:17] <Psil0Cybin> 0
[03:17] <Psil0Cybin> correct?
[03:17] <psusi> yep
[03:17] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:17] <Psil0Cybin> okay now i select all the raid partitions so
[03:17] <Psil0Cybin> sba1 sdb1 sdc1
[03:18] <Psil0Cybin> continue?
[03:18] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, I swear, I'm going to have to come hook up a wire to your pinky finger and shock you each time you hit enter too soon, yes, continue ;)
[03:18] <phunyguy> Psil0Cybin: if FloodBot1 is warning you, then maybe you should listen.
[03:18] <benague> +i
[03:18] <benague> wait lol nvm
[03:18] <demophobia> Please see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2198003&p=12894509#post12894509 .
[03:18] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: hahahahha, sorryy guys!! I promiss, i will amputate my finger after this ! I really am sorry!!
[03:19] <demophobia> Psil0Cybin, let your yes mean yes and your no mean no -- please don't promise such a thing. ._.
[03:19] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: okay so i selected them all and now it took me back to the menu that says create md device, delete md dcevice or finish, i am assuming i hit finish since i just sleected all the partitons
[03:19] <Psil0Cybin> corect?
[03:20] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, yes, and then you should be back at the partitioning screen where you should have a new device: md0.. that's the raid.. set it to / and ext4 and continue
[03:20] <demophobia> goodnight
[03:21] <Psil0Cybin> okay psusi: sorry i am back to that menu you just described ,it I see RAID5 Device #0 - 2.0 TB #1 2.0 TB and 5.12.0 B unusable
[03:21] <Psil0Cybin> is that what i set to /
[03:21] <Guest19333> hai...anyone know about remote desktop connection setting
[03:21] <Psil0Cybin> its only one partition in the raid device, and the 3 parttions bellow
[03:21] <Psil0Cybin> how do i set it to
[03:22] <Psil0Cybin> "/" and ext4?
[03:22] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, yes, set that to use / as the mount point, and ext4 as the filesystem
[03:22] <Psil0Cybin> Okay
[03:23] <Psil0Cybin> so it says ext4 and /
[03:23] <Psil0Cybin> under the raid5 device.
[03:23] <Psil0Cybin> So now do i hit finish partitoning and write changes to disk?
[03:23] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, yes
[03:23] <Psil0Cybin> okay *fingers crossed*
[03:23] <Psil0Cybin> You have not selected any partitions for us as swap space
[03:23] <Psil0Cybin> enabling swap space is recommended so that the system can make better use of physical memory
[03:23] <psusi> ignore
[03:24] <Psil0Cybin> it just says Yes or No
[03:24] <Psil0Cybin> to return to partioning menu
[03:24] <Psil0Cybin> so no
[03:24] <psusi> do you want to go back?  hell no.. ramming speed!
[03:24] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[03:24] <Psil0Cybin> writting changes to disk
[03:24] <Psil0Cybin> *fingers crossed*
[03:24]  * Psil0Cybin heart is pumping hard
[03:24]  * Psil0Cybin is getting light headed
[03:25] <Psil0Cybin> linux might just be my drug in life:S the ups and downs Woah
[03:25] <psusi> note that I'm pretty sure if you had just picked guided raid instead of manual it would have taken care of all of that for you ;)
[03:26] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: there was no guided raid option...
[03:26] <Psil0Cybin> other people tried to help me all day it was wierd
[03:26] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, there was, you mentioned it earlier...
[03:26] <Psil0Cybin> oh so maybe i am forgetting now
[03:26] <Psil0Cybin> sigh
[03:27] <Psil0Cybin> alright well its installing i really hope i do not run into the same issue with no os to boot
[03:27] <Psil0Cybin> :P
[03:27] <Psil0Cybin> if this woks i will run over to you and kiss you psusi.
[03:34] <Psil0Cybin> psusi:
[03:34]  * psusi beats partx into submission and fixes it to correctly resize partitions on the fly, other than partition number 1...
[03:34] <Psil0Cybin> error: no such disk grub rescue>
[03:34] <Psil0Cybin> what is going on ......
[03:35] <smacktalk1> rdesktop isn't working quite right...telling me my userid and password are wrong
[03:35] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, there should have been a step in the installer that asked you to pick where to install grub to and given a menu of choices.. you should have picked sda, sdb, and sdc
[03:35] <Psil0Cybin> it just said
[03:35] <Psil0Cybin> to add master grub record
[03:35] <Psil0Cybin> and i said yes
[03:35] <Psil0Cybin> if this was the only system on the hard drive
[03:35] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:36] <Psil0Cybin> and it was , so i thought it would work perfectly....
[03:36] <Psil0Cybin> did i just mess it up again?
[03:36] <SiliconG> anyone out there do a ultra new stack and document it apache 2.4.7 and php 5.4x ?
[03:36] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, it didn't give you a choice of which drive(s) to install to?
[03:36] <Psil0Cybin> nope
[03:36] <Psil0Cybin> it just said it was Done
[03:36] <smacktalk1> does anyone know how to get rdesktop to work right?  what's the command line structure?
[03:36] <Psil0Cybin> and it wanted to add the Master Grub Option since this was theo nly OS on the drive
[03:36] <Psil0Cybin> and i selected Okay, it said to take out the USB
[03:36] <Psil0Cybin> and restart the computer,. so i did and now i got the grub rescue screen
[03:36] <psusi> bloody hell these bugs are annoying... which drive is your bios set to boot from?
[03:37] <Psil0Cybin> i think from the hard drive
[03:37] <Psil0Cybin> I am unsure it just says VOlume
[03:37] <Psil0Cybin> when i cpick a medum
[03:37] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, which one?  you have 3
[03:37] <Psil0Cybin> when i hit f12, it just says
[03:37] <Psil0Cybin> Volume, Bios
[03:37] <Psil0Cybin> when i have a USB it says
[03:37] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:37] <Psil0Cybin> Volume, USB, Bios
[03:37] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, you want bios
[03:37] <Psil0Cybin> it just gives me sorry Vlume, and Enter Setup
[03:38] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, and if you have an option in your bios to disable uefi, do that..
[03:38] <Psil0Cybin> it just says Volume, and Enter Setup
[03:38] <Psil0Cybin> when I hit F12
[03:38] <psusi> enter setup
[03:38] <psusi> find an option to disable the frigging UEFI
[03:38] <Psil0Cybin> i hit Enter Setup, and it just shows a blackscreen.
[03:38] <Psil0Cybin> Nothing
[03:39] <Psil0Cybin> i litterrly was at the office from 10 am, to almost 12 am
[03:39] <Psil0Cybin> and i got nothing done, no os. nothing...
[03:39] <Psil0Cybin> wow
[03:39] <psusi> you can't get into the bios?  try hitting delete as it boots up
[03:39] <Psil0Cybin> one second let me try
[03:39] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[03:39] <Psil0Cybin> i am in Bios
[03:39] <Psil0Cybin> where would the EUFI be?
[03:40] <psusi> look around and see if there's an option to disable uefi, and/or set the boot device
[03:40] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[03:40] <Psil0Cybin> I see
[03:40] <Psil0Cybin> EUFI and Legacy
[03:40] <Psil0Cybin> is what is selected as.
[03:40] <psusi> PICK LEGACY
[03:40] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:40] <psusi> omg... damn uefi crap...
[03:40] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[03:40] <Psil0Cybin> saved and exited
[03:40] <Psil0Cybin> let me try again.....
[03:40] <Jordan_U> Psil0Cybin: What is your end goal?
[03:40] <Psil0Cybin> error
[03:40] <Psil0Cybin> no such disk: grub rescue
[03:41] <Psil0Cybin> Install Ubuntu OS Server on a Raided 3 hard drive sytem
[03:41] <Psil0Cybin> been at it for 12 hours straight no luck
[03:41] <Psil0Cybin> didnt help psusi ....sigh
[03:41] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, do you have the ubuntu desktop cd?
[03:41] <Jordan_U> Psil0Cybin: FakeRaid, mdraid, or hardware RAID?
[03:41] <Psil0Cybin> i do ! but i cannot get the ethernet cable working etither!
[03:41] <Psil0Cybin> so the dekstop is useless.
[03:41] <psusi> Jordan_U, regular mdraid...
[03:42] <Psil0Cybin> someone helped me do that, but i am having all too many issues
[03:42] <Psil0Cybin> nothing wrosk
[03:42] <Jordan_U> Psil0Cybin: Try selecting a different drive at boot.
[03:42] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, oh... well if the ethernet doesn't work on the desktop cd, then it isn't going to work when you install either
[03:43] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: first i want to get the server running so i can figure out driver issues
[03:43] <Psil0Cybin> differnt drive at boot it just gives me two options
[03:43] <Psil0Cybin> setup
[03:43] <Psil0Cybin> and vlume
[03:43] <Psil0Cybin> its not working
[03:43] <Psil0Cybin> can i not fix this grub menu?
[03:43] <Psil0Cybin> i just installed it, how do i boot in?
[03:44] <Jordan_U> Psil0Cybin: It depends on why you're getting a grub rescue shell. You can try: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#GRUB-only-offers-a-rescue-shell
[03:45] <Psil0Cybin> is there any other linux os
[03:45] <Jordan_U> Psil0Cybin: You can also try using a Super GRUB2 Disk CD to boot your installed system.
[03:45] <Psil0Cybin> no CD drive.
[03:45] <Psil0Cybin> i cant figure this out
[03:46] <Psil0Cybin> i usally have no problems
[03:46] <Psil0Cybin> only with this raid, can i never get the OS to boot.
[03:46] <Psil0Cybin> everything i do causes other problems
[03:46] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, ok, at the grub rescue shell, type ls and tell me what it says
[03:46] <Psil0Cybin> (hd0) (hd0, msdos1)
[03:46] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, damn... how about set?
[03:47] <Psil0Cybin> prefix=(mduuid/a62d76fbf6a....
[03:47] <ariane5> i install on ubuntu java and flash and ubuntu is unstabile why ?
[03:47] <Jordan_U> Psil0Cybin: Then for some reasob your BIOS is only presenting one of your 3 drives to grub.
[03:47] <Psil0Cybin> root=mduuid/a62d76fbf64e75...
[03:47] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, ahh... yes, it looks like your bios is broken and only sees one drive
[03:47] <Psil0Cybin> WeLL the guys who built the machine said they did a hard drive Raid!
[03:47] <Psil0Cybin> and i should be able to install the OS as ONE partition
[03:47] <Psil0Cybin> but that was NEVER the case.
[03:48] <Psil0Cybin> I am sooooo confused....
[03:48] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, wait... I think you may be mixing up hardware raid and craptastic fakeraid
[03:48] <Psil0Cybin> do i take this machine back to the store?
[03:48] <Psil0Cybin> is this machine useless, i am confused
[03:48] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, boot the livecd, and run dmraid -s
[03:48] <Psil0Cybin> so
[03:48] <Psil0Cybin> boot a live cd ?
[03:48] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, or better yet, is there a raid option in the bios?
[03:48] <Psil0Cybin> yes
[03:48] <Psil0Cybin> i think so psusi
[03:48] <Psil0Cybin> that was
[03:48] <Psil0Cybin> in the option
[03:48] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:48] <Guest19333> does anyone know about XRDP
[03:48] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, ok, that's the craptastic fakeraid... go into the bios and blow that junk all away
[03:49] <Jordan_U> Psil0Cybin: Does "ls (hd0,msdos1)/" list any files?
[03:49] <psusi> Jordan_U, it won't.. the bios still thinks it's set up as a fakeraid, but he's reformatted it using mdadm
[03:49] <Psil0Cybin> psusi:
[03:49] <Psil0Cybin> it says
[03:49] <Psil0Cybin> under Peripherals
[03:50] <Psil0Cybin> OnChip SATA TYPE
[03:50] <Psil0Cybin> RAID
[03:50] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:50] <Psil0Cybin> OnChip STA CONTROLLER enabled.
[03:50] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, there should be something during boot that says press some key combo for raid setup... hit that, and delete the bloody fake raid array
[03:50] <Psil0Cybin> it says onChop SATA Type: Raid
[03:50] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[03:50] <Psil0Cybin> one second!
[03:50] <MartynKeigher> hey all
[03:50] <Jordan_U> psusi: Clearly there is a device visible with at least a partition table.
[03:51] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[03:51] <Psil0Cybin> gives me
[03:51] <Psil0Cybin> Delete LD Menu
[03:51] <Psil0Cybin> Controller configuration LD VIew / LD Define
[03:51] <Psil0Cybin> View Drive ASsignments
[03:51] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, then go back to that first setting, and change it from RAID to AHCI...
[03:51] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:51] <Psil0Cybin> okay so how do i remove all the software raid?
[03:51] <MartynKeigher>  got an upstart issue.... going through this.... http://wiki.manageditby.us/2013/08/10/dashing-upstart-script/
[03:51] <Psil0Cybin> Delete LD Menu?
[03:51] <psusi> Jordan_U, yea.. because it sees the partition table on the first disk and thinks it is the partition table on the fakeraid array
[03:51] <Psil0Cybin> or view
[03:51] <Psil0Cybin> drive assignemnts?
[03:52] <MartynKeigher> looks good. its worked before... just thinking if i need any dependencies to make this run
[03:52] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, whatever you have to do in there to delete the raid array so they are all just plain, normal drives
[03:52] <Psil0Cybin> so i just
[03:52] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[03:52] <MartynKeigher> right now it says: root@DASHING01:/etc/init# sudo start thin   start: Unknown job: thin
[03:52] <Psil0Cybin> i am just scared ill mess something up
[03:52] <Psil0Cybin> i do not know what naything of this in the Raid Menu
[03:52] <Jordan_U> psusi: Which for RAID1 might not be a problem.
[03:52] <Psil0Cybin> psusi:
[03:52] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, can't be any more messed up than it is now ;)
[03:53] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[03:53] <Psil0Cybin> so CTRL + H
[03:53] <psusi> Jordan_U, yea.. but he's using raid5
[03:53] <Psil0Cybin> says securly erase.
[03:53] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:53] <Psil0Cybin> so i erase all raid
[03:53] <Psil0Cybin> ?
[03:53] <Jordan_U> psusi: Ahh, carry on then :)
[03:53] <Psil0Cybin> like CTRL H on all drives?
[03:53] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, no... you don't want to erase the whole drive... just delete the array
[03:53] <Psil0Cybin> gives m no option for array
[03:53] <Psil0Cybin> Ctrl H, CTRL V to view backup disk
[03:53] <Psil0Cybin> exit and up and down
[03:54] <Psil0Cybin> or Delete LD Menu
[03:54] <Psil0Cybin> Controller Config
[03:54] <Psil0Cybin> LD View.
[03:54] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, delete LD
[03:54] <psusi> delete delete delete... delete it all
[03:54] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[03:54] <Psil0Cybin> it says
[03:54] <Psil0Cybin> CTRL -Y to delete tthe data in the disk
[03:54] <Psil0Cybin> though
[03:54] <Psil0Cybin> i see it has the raid
[03:54] <truba> hi guys
[03:54] <Psil0Cybin> LD No 1 RAID 5 DR 3
[03:54] <MartynKeigher> do i need to install anything special that is not in ubuntu (out of the box) to get upstart to run conf files?
[03:54] <Psil0Cybin> Capacity 1999.99
[03:54] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, it sees the *wrong* raid.. that's why you need to delete it
[03:55] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[03:55] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[03:55] <Psil0Cybin> deleted
[03:55] <Psil0Cybin> NO LD
[03:55] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:55] <Psil0Cybin> There is no any LD it says lol
[03:55] <Psil0Cybin> now i reboot?
[03:55] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, good... now go back to that first option you found and change it from RAID to AHCI to turn that fake raid crap off
[03:55] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[03:55] <Psil0Cybin> Its go time, One second ill keep u posted
[03:56] <Psil0Cybin> on those  changes.
[03:56] <psusi> then you just might boot up ok... unless the bios erased the start of the disk, which I think it does... in which case, you have to reinstall ( again )
[03:56] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[03:56] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: if that is the case
[03:56] <Psil0Cybin> i should be on the right track tho
[03:56] <Psil0Cybin> now that i did this stuff
[03:56] <truba> I have a problem in fresh installation of ubuntu 12.04 in laptop I am using lxde as a desktop environment to gain on RAM. however I am experiencing that my CPU fans are running at a high speed even when the cpu utilization is very low, I 've checked it using htop, sensors.
[03:56] <Psil0Cybin> one second let merestart and change bios crap
[03:56] <psusi> yes, should be smooth sailing this time...
[03:56] <Psil0Cybin> ty
[03:57] <Psil0Cybin> it might have worked
[03:57] <Psil0Cybin> i see Ubuntu gae :P
[03:57] <truba> I have even installed Nvidia propreity graphics card. everything is ohk but the cpu fans are runnning quite fast even the htop is showing that there is no cpu utilization.
[03:57] <Psil0Cybin> clicked it to boot, lets see.
[03:57] <psusi> they set you up with a bios fake raid... so the bios was trying to use the drives in a raid, and there's a driver for Windows to take over and use that setup... but when you created the raid array in the Ubuntu installer like you did, that's pure software raid.. have to use one or the other, not both
[03:57] <Psil0Cybin> so far just a black screen
[03:58] <truba> Has anyone experienced such problem ??
[03:58] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: so now i rebooted
[03:58] <Psil0Cybin> it shows the Grub
[03:58] <Psil0Cybin> but when i boot the O.S i just get a black screen
[03:58] <Psil0Cybin> so is this what i would fix by reinstalling now?
[03:58] <psusi> hrm.. no...
[03:58] <psusi> you get the grub menu, and when you hit enter, it just stays black?
[03:58] <Psil0Cybin> yes
[03:58] <Psil0Cybin> let me try again
[03:59] <Psil0Cybin> yea  see grub
[03:59] <psusi> try the rescue mode option and give it some time
[03:59] <Psil0Cybin> it shows me, the OS and the recovery, but it just stays black
[03:59] <Psil0Cybin> OH WOOPS
[03:59] <Psil0Cybin> IT WORKED
[03:59] <Psil0Cybin> IT WORKED
[03:59] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:59] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: I booted in!! omfg.. sorry I am soooo happppy...now all i need to do is get my ethernet driver working LMAFO!
[03:59] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: i think you diserve a kiss.
[04:00] <Psil0Cybin> let me jut do a sudo shutdown -r now
[04:00] <Psil0Cybin> to double check its not a fluke
[04:00] <MartynKeigher> can someone help me with an upstart isse? trying to start a server ( a /etc/init/thin.conf file) and it says Unknown Service??
[04:01] <tsimpson> Psil0Cybin: please try and lay off the enter key
[04:01] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, do keep in mind that raid is no substitute for backups... it's for not having to restore from backup just because a drive fails...
[04:02] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: yea ofcourse i am going to back up, this is a server for work i am setting up...for my boss. So we are going to get a few external hard drive hubs
[04:02] <Psil0Cybin> okay i got the O.S t owork
[04:02] <Psil0Cybin> i think i might relax tonight and get back to that ethernet driver later,unless psusi you are up for helping me with that too lmaooo
[04:03] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, my only advice on that is that if it doesn't work out of the box, it's probably not going to work ;)
[04:03] <Psil0Cybin> oh actually....
[04:03] <Psil0Cybin> someone said that i could try to reinstall the driver my self
[04:04] <Psil0Cybin> that that would fix that issue, because they said it was configuring inproperly for that driver or something...does that make sense or actually i am screwed?
[04:04] <psusi> by and large, drivers are built into the kernel so it just works
[04:04] <Psil0Cybin> because i need this computer for a server, if the driver is not working for the ethernet this is baaaaad news
[04:04] <Psil0Cybin> for me actually
[04:04] <Psil0Cybin> well
[04:04] <Psil0Cybin> Ifconfig
[04:04] <Psil0Cybin> does not even show the ethernet drive.
[04:04] <Psil0Cybin> so i think the driver is just fully missing.
[04:04] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:04] <psusi> yep, which is unusual, but if that's the case, you're SOL
[04:05] <Psil0Cybin> SOL?
[04:05] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, might not hurt to check the output of lspci -vvvv and see if you can find the card there
[04:05] <psusi> SOL = Shit out of Luck ;)
[04:05] <Psil0Cybin> actually.....
[04:06] <Psil0Cybin> someone else said it would be easy to just copy it on a USB
[04:06] <Psil0Cybin> and install it from the USB
[04:06] <phunyguy> !language
[04:06] <Psil0Cybin> thats really bad....really....psusi i am kind of shocked
[04:06] <Psil0Cybin> that is the only thing i can do.....nothing
[04:06] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, except that there's nothing to copy or install... as a general rule, Linux does not have third party drivers to install, they are just built into the kernel
[04:06] <Psil0Cybin> oh no
[04:06] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: im actually going to kill my self lollll jks, but my boss just bought this 800$ server
[04:06] <Psil0Cybin> for us to use
[04:07] <Psil0Cybin> so ur saying it will have no etho? lmao
[04:07] <Psil0Cybin> and theres nadda i can do
[04:07] <Psil0Cybin> ?
[04:07] <psusi> well, there *may* be hope... it is pretty darn unusual for there to be an ethernet controller that linux doesn't support
[04:07] <Psil0Cybin> yea
[04:07] <Psil0Cybin> thats what i am thinking
[04:07] <Psil0Cybin> maybe i just need to do alot of research
[04:07] <psusi> wifi on the other hand, sometimes aren't and there are ways to install the windows driver and use that
[04:07] <Psil0Cybin> tonight
[04:07] <Psil0Cybin> yea psuis well
[04:07] <Psil0Cybin> the thing is i think i might have windows drivers for the etho
[04:07] <Psil0Cybin> just this server doesnt even pick up the eto
[04:08] <Psil0Cybin> so im wondering if that might solve the problems
[04:08] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:08] <Psil0Cybin> or if i can find a etho driver for my hardware, becasue it doesnt even turn on
[04:08] <psusi> what kind of card is it?
[04:08] <Psil0Cybin> how can i find out i forgot the command
[04:08] <psusi> read the specs for the hardware you bought, or try sudo lspci -v
[04:09] <Psil0Cybin> okay Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co Ltd RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller rev 06
[04:09] <phunyguy> which version of Ubuntu? (I could scroll up, but meh)
[04:09] <Psil0Cybin> 12.04 Server
[04:09] <phunyguy> which kernel?
[04:09] <Psil0Cybin> 3.8.0-29 generic
[04:09] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, hrm... realtek is generally supported pretty well... you might try the desktop cd for 13.04 rather than 12.04
[04:09] <phunyguy> yeah... even with that, I can't get it working on my newest laptop.  Same deal, no ethernet.
[04:09] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: well i used the 12.04
[04:10] <Psil0Cybin> desktop iso and it worked fine
[04:10] <Psil0Cybin> well it did not work at all actually
[04:10] <Psil0Cybin> didnt work with the desktop either
[04:10] <Psil0Cybin> not that i think about it, sorry for spamming again with the neter key it is just hard sometimes and i forget.
[04:10] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, so what does sudo ifconfig eth0 say?
[04:10] <phunyguy> You can try the mainline kernel to see if that is the issue.
[04:10] <Psil0Cybin> error fetching interface information
[04:10] <Psil0Cybin> device not found
[04:10] <Psil0Cybin> woops
[04:10] <Psil0Cybin> one sec
[04:10] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:10] <phunyguy> /headdesk
[04:10] <dogmover> Psil0Cybin: is the network plugged into the card? And are the lights on at the port on the pc?
[04:10] <Bashing-om> Psil0Cybin: I Have been watching,, for driver situation see:https://code.google.com/p/r8168/, then also ubuntuforums, lots there about this driver - chili55 -.
[04:11] <Robr3rd> So I've got Ubuntu 13.04 (in GNOME Shell 3.8). I just installed wireless mini-PCIe card and I am trying to set it up to be a hotspot to channel my Internet from the Ethernet port to all my other devices. The wireless card works and the hotspot capabilities also work fine, however the Ethernet on the motherboard says "Connecting" but never actually completes the connection.
[04:11] <Psil0Cybin> it says: Link ecap ethernet HWaddr 94:de:880:b1:46:94
[04:11] <Psil0Cybin> Broadcast Multicast MTU:150 metric 1
[04:11] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, looks like it's working then...
[04:11] <Robr3rd> I have also disabled the wireless card and the Ethernet port behaves the same.
[04:11] <Psil0Cybin> hmm psusi but no internet, but when i plug that etho into my laptop
[04:11] <Psil0Cybin> i get internet.
[04:12] <Psil0Cybin> no lights on the back
[04:12] <Psil0Cybin> for the eth0
[04:12] <Psil0Cybin> looks like its dead, in the machine type thing
[04:12] <Psil0Cybin> before it wsa lighting up red in the back when i plugged it in, now it does not.
[04:12] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, what do you have it plugged into?
[04:12] <Psil0Cybin> the eth0 wire into the computer and into my router.
[04:12] <Psil0Cybin> *slot*&
[04:13] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, and no light on either end?
[04:13] <Psil0Cybin> light on the router end, not the pc end.
[04:13] <Psil0Cybin> one sec lemme try something
[04:13] <Psil0Cybin> gunna try a diff wire.
[04:13] <Hydr0p0nX> is it possible to override the codecs under /proc/asound/card...  ?
[04:14] <Psil0Cybin> no luck, light stays on the router end, but does not stay on the machine end.
[04:14] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, does ifconfig say it is up?  or has any rx packets?
[04:15] <glitsj16> psusi: someone gave Psil0Cybin a link way earlier on .. it seems his network card is being wrongly recognised as needing the r8619 driver rather than the r8168 one .. http://www.rvdavid.net/how-to-get-gigabit-speeds-from-rtl81118168b-pci-express-gigabit-ethernet-controller-on-ubuntu-linux/
[04:15] <Psil0Cybin> yes that is the one, I was ust confused I downloaded the driver
[04:15] <Psil0Cybin> onto a USB
[04:16] <psusi> the windows driver is useless
[04:16] <Psil0Cybin> but the guy also said I needed the essentials pack to install the driver, hmmm.
[04:18] <psusi> that link sounds a bit suspect and outdated to me
[04:18] <ubuntuaddicted> anyone in here ever install LXDE within Xubuntu?
[04:18] <glitsj16> psusi: hitsuijiTMO gave it to him, that's "the guy" ;)
[04:18] <ubuntuaddicted> i want to try another DE, maybe give LXDE a try..
[04:19] <somsip> ubuntuaddicted: just ask the real question and someone will answer if they can
[04:19] <Psil0Cybin> yes :) that is who i was talking too but when i do the ifconfig, eth0 does not pop up when i ddid sudo ifconfig eth0 i got the RX packets and TX packets, everything is 0
[04:19] <ubuntuaddicted> somsip, i did
[04:19] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, try sudo dhclient eth0
[04:20] <Psil0Cybin> wow did that, looks like its processing its running the command and its at _
[04:20] <Psil0Cybin> but the light is on in the back eth0 card.
[04:22] <FireMedic> somsip: You can add lubuntu to your installation by doing sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[04:22] <Psil0Cybin> looks like it is just stuck on _ psusi like the only way to stop is to do CTRL+C and retype the command again, but the eth0 light in the back of the computer is glowing red, so it woke somthing up.
[04:22] <ubuntuaddicted> what's the main difference if I install lubuntu-desktop vs just lxde?
[04:22] <Psil0Cybin> but after i hit CTRL+C and tpye in ping, its unknown host again, so I see nothing actually got working :P
[04:22] <somsip> FireMedic: I'm not asking. ubuntuaddicted is.
[04:22] <Temper> is there an easy way to enable and configure a network?
[04:22] <FireMedic> sorry somsip
[04:22] <Temper> lshw says the network card is DISABLED
[04:22] <somsip> ubuntuaddicted: you use the meta package lubuntu-desktop
[04:23] <somsip> FireMedic: np :)
[04:23] <glitsj16> ubuntuaddicted: lubuntu-desktop installs more apps to get the full DE, lxdr is a subset of that
[04:23] <ubuntuaddicted> i just want to try a different DE, i don't want all the apps that come along with lbuntu.
[04:23] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, looks like the card works fine, you just somehow didn't configure it when installing
[04:23] <sasha|> Hai
[04:23] <somsip> !info lxde
[04:23] <sasha|> Does anyone have a good tutorial about how to read smartctl data?
[04:23] <sasha|> Like, I'm totally stumped
[04:24] <psusi> sasha|, stumped how?
[04:24] <sasha|> well, I don't know what all the things mean
[04:24] <somsip> glitsj16: thanks for that - I assumed wrong
[04:24] <sasha|> so I was thinking there was a man page or something (but not a man page)
[04:24] <Temper> if i type ifup it does not work on eth2 since it is disabled in lshw.. how do i setup the network card?
[04:25] <psusi> sasha|, generally the only things you need be concerned with are the count of reallocated, pending, or offline_uncorrectable sectors
[04:25] <glitsj16> somsip: no problem, i do many times 'assume wrong that is)
[04:25] <sasha|>   5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   041   041   140    Pre-fail  Always   FAILING_NOW 1265
[04:25] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, did you have the cable plugged in when installing?
[04:26] <psusi> sasha|, yep, dead driver
[04:26] <sasha|> well fuck me
[04:26] <sasha|> just installed the hard drive
[04:26] <psusi> sasha|, what kind of drive is it?
[04:26] <somsip> !language | sasha|
[04:26] <sasha|> sorry :/
[04:26] <sasha|> psusi Model Family:     Western Digital Caviar Blue Serial ATA, Device Model:     WDC WD5000AAKS-00YGA0
[04:27] <psusi> sasha|, time to RMA it I guess... I wouldn't have been surprised if it were a green drive
[04:27] <adars> hola
[04:27] <ubuntuaddicted> i just want to try another very very light weight DE to rule out a possible bug with XFCE. any suggestions?
[04:27] <sasha|> psusi thing is, I found it at the junk yard
[04:27] <sasha|> that's 'new' for me :P
[04:27] <psusi> sasha|, ahh, there's the reason it was in the junk yard ;)
[04:28] <sasha|> yeah I was thinking what on earth a 500gb hdd is doing here :P
[04:28] <sasha|> so, take it out?
[04:28] <psusi> sasha|, yep... I just picked up 3 1 TB WD blue drives for only $70 a pop on newegg...
[04:28] <truba> has anyone worked with cpufrequtils in ubuntu 12.04
[04:29] <Psil0Cybin> okay i am back from having my ciggie, hopefully now i will click enter less i did the sudo dhclient eth0 it get stuck on that command though and the only way to stop it is with CTRL+ C but while its in that process i can see the red light is on in theb ack of the computer
[04:29] <sasha|> psusi that's rather expensive imo, picked up a 1.5tb wd in ~12 ish for ~$70
[04:29] <sasha|> and now 3tb's are going for ~$130 where I live
[04:29] <psusi> sasha|, was it a green?
[04:29] <sasha|> yiss
[04:30] <sasha|> green and segate storage max or something
[04:30] <psusi> yea, they are cheaper and have less warranty, less performance, and tend to fail a lot.. I think I got the same drive about the same time
[04:30] <psusi> and now it's crapping out
[04:30] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: if i do ifconfig now although eth0 shows up instead of just lo before.
[04:30] <sasha|> tbh, my server is filled from drives from the junk yard
[04:30] <psusi> hence, the new blues
[04:31] <sasha|> the only drives I bought were a handful of 2tb and a 3tb over the years for storing movies and tv shows
[04:31] <sasha|> but I was wondering why my ubuntu seedbox was flaking out all the time :P
[04:31] <psusi> sasha|, I had a nice ssd I picked up along with the 1.5 tb green drive back in.. think I actually got it in '11... both of died now, so I got 3 new blues and put them in a raid10 so I don't have to deal with failure again
[04:32] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: is there anything I can do now? that i can see the eth0 within ifconfig? is that a step closer?
[04:32] <sasha|> tldr; I should stop being a cheap ass
[04:32] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: i had the cable connected when installing, but it could not configure anything network wise.
[04:32] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, looks like the card is working, you just don't have networking set up properly so it doesn't know where your default route and dns servers are... this is set up automatically on desktop, but server you may need some manual configuration, though I thought the installer generally set it up for you automatically these days
[04:32] <Psil0Cybin> I had to manually, do it.
[04:32] <MartynKeigher> can someone help me with an upstart isse? trying to start a server ( a /etc/init/thin.conf file) and it says Unknown Service??
[04:33] <MartynKeigher> looked through the debug but not seeing anything obviuos what could be wrong.
[04:33] <sasha|> literally, entire computer is form the junkyard, it must be ~8 or so years old. ran rtorrent and a bunch of torrenty things fine but then it started crashing with 400+ torrents, so I was wondering why
[04:33] <MartynKeigher> tried sudo service thin start'
[04:33] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: the installer did ask to configure it , but it said it could not be configured nad needed to be done manually, even though the eth cable works for otre machines and gthye get on the internet no problem the second they are connected
[04:33] <Psil0Cybin> so i was having specific problems with the server setup
[04:33] <MartynKeigher> tried 'sudo service thin start' and 'sudo start thin' still no luck....Unkown service?'
[04:34] <Beldar> ubuntuaddicted, What release are you using and do you want to be able to remove this new de if installed?
[04:34] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, sounds like you should be able to plug it in at work, and you just need to manually configre it by editing /etc/network/interfaces
[04:34] <MartynKeigher> i then did 'service --status all' and thin is NOT listed??
[04:34] <ubuntuaddicted> Beldar, i am using Xubuntu 12.04.3 and yes, i'd like to be able to remove it if it's not too much hassle.
[04:35] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: I did plug it into my work router, and it did not work during the intall but your saying I should be able to edit those files now, that ifconfig states that eth0 is up?
[04:35] <Psil0Cybin> just cannot connect to the internet
[04:35] <psusi> MartynKeigher, what the heck is "thin"?
[04:35] <rosentrotter> What version should I install if my PC specs are 3GB Ram and 2Ghz CPU
[04:35] <MartynKeigher> web service
[04:35] <ubuntuaddicted> Beldar, wouldn't be the end of the world if I could though as I have back ups of my / paritition I can restore to in case of emergency
[04:35] <rosentrotter> of Ubuntu
[04:35] <Psil0Cybin> restarted the computer psusi and ifconfig still states eth0 is gone now
[04:35] <Psil0Cybin> that i restarted.
[04:35] <Psil0Cybin> dhclient only worked temporarly.
[04:36] <MartynKeigher> psusi, ....going through this.... http://wiki.manageditby.us/2013/08/10/dashing-upstart-script/
[04:36] <ubuntuaddicted> Beldar, i just want something really simple to be able to start steam and start a game, that's all I want another DE for.
[04:36] <MartynKeigher> done it several times in the past but just not working for me now
[04:36] <Beldar> ubuntuaddicted, Cool, you could try lubuntu, install via the terminal and copy and paste the apps installed to a text before hitting the yes to install. THen when you want in gone just use that list to remove.
[04:36] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, yea... it doesn't show by default unless you name it or use -a, since it isn't configured... at work you should pick a static IP address and will need to set the IP address, netmask, gateway in /etc/network/interfaces, and the dns servers in /etc/resolve.conf
[04:36] <Psil0Cybin> okay I am inside /etc/network/interfaces and it only says auto lo iface lo inet loopback and that is it
[04:36] <Psil0Cybin> nothing about eth0.
[04:37] <ubuntuaddicted> Beldar, so sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop OR just sudo apt-get install lxde?
[04:37] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, yea, you will need to add a stanza for eth0
[04:37] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: i am at work now, i never left...would you be able to help me configure it now?
[04:37] <Beldar> ubuntuaddicted, Either will work I believe, depending on which you want.
[04:37] <MartynKeigher> you dont ask for much do ya Psil0Cybin ???
[04:37] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, wow... long day.. have you an IP addy assigned for it?
[04:38] <iworkfromhomeinm> Would you like to stay home and spend more time with your family in 2014?
[04:38] <iworkfromhomeinm> Need to pay off some of your Bills ? Or just need extra money?
[04:38] <iworkfromhomeinm> I have been with this great company for 2 years now and the pay is great!
[04:38] <iworkfromhomeinm> This is so easy and simple all you need is a computer and internet
[04:38] <iworkfromhomeinm> http://www.znzadteam.com/user/imakemoneyinmypjs/
[04:38] <FloodBot1> iworkfromhomeinm: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:38] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: you do not even know aha :P the half of my day lol! but i do not have an IP Addy assigned for it, usually when you connect any eth0 at work you just get a dynamic ip or static i am unsure, atm...usually it never changes
[04:38] <ubuntuaddicted> Beldar, as I said I want the least amount of extra installed, i only want a simple DE to start steam and then a game.
[04:38] <Psil0Cybin> like the raspberry pi i have hooked up is <IP_ADDRESS> for days
[04:38] <Fou> has any one installed owncloud before on ubuntu?
[04:38] <ubuntuaddicted> Beldar, so probably lxde then
[04:39] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: but do i need to do dhclient eth0
[04:39] <Psil0Cybin> everytime i restart?
[04:39] <glitsj16> MartynKeigher: you can run an upstart check on the thin.conf by using "init-checkconf -f /path/to/thin.conf", but you need to do that prior to installing it in /etc/init/ and without sudo .. kind of an upstart parse check
[04:39] <Beldar> ubuntuaddicted, Sure both are light than xfce basically.
[04:39] <Beldar> lighter*
[04:39] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, generally you manually assign a static IP address for servers so they don't move around
[04:40] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: okay so should I wait till tomorrow get admin info from my boss for the router? set up a static IP and come back here and get you guys to help me?
[04:40] <MartynKeigher> thanks you glitsj16!!
[04:40] <Psil0Cybin> or could I get away with any ip for just today so I can update the system and go home?
[04:40] <MartynKeigher> will do it now
[04:41] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, man interfaces describes how to set up that file... there is no technical reason you *can't* just use dhcp, it's just usually easier to pick a static address so you can set up your firewall to forward ports and such
[04:41] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: i am not configuring nginx today, I just want to update the system and have internet working for tmwro.
[04:41] <MartynKeigher> glitsj16, .... came back with: Failed to ask upstart to check conf file
[04:41] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, if you follow the example in man interfaces, it should be fairly simple to set it up for dhcp and then you just need to reboot or run ifup eth0, and it should come up just fine
[04:42] <Beldar> ubuntuaddicted, Keep this sight available in the playing around section, left panel, are lists of the whole desktop packages for various de's and releases for adding and removing. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/
[04:42] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: okay, so technically I need to go to that interfaces document and add mapping eth0,etc and it should work?
[04:42] <glitsj16> MartynKeigher: how did you run it exactly? and did you take it out of /etc/init?
[04:42] <Psil0Cybin> or it gets more complucated and i need to read the whole manpage.
[04:42] <MartynKeigher> i typed the command just as u had it worte out and i did remove thin.conf from /etc/init before i ran it
[04:43] <MartynKeigher> and not as Root
[04:43] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, yep, you just need an eth0 stanza in the interfaces file and if you set it to dhcp, a reboot or ifup eth0 should grab an address and work
[04:43] <Psil0Cybin> alright haha ill try and do it now alone, and see what happens.
[04:44] <Psil0Cybin> could I just add into the interfaces file
[04:44] <glitsj16> MartynKeigher: try without the -f switch maybe, the upstart cookbook doesn't mention that, the man for init-checkconf does ...
[04:44] <Psil0Cybin> auto eth0 iface eth0 inet loopback?
[04:44] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: ?
[04:44] <glitsj16> MartynKeigher: i was looking at http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#init-checkconf
[04:44] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, but for a server so that you can set up the firewall to forward ports, you want a static IP... either manually configured in /etc/network/interfaces, or you can configure your DHCP server to map a static address to the servers' MAC address
[04:45] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: so whaqt would be the command i would type in /etc/network/interfaces?
[04:45] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, no loopback
[04:45] <Psil0Cybin> just looking at the manpage I cannotfigure out what command, to corrolate to what you are saying ha
[04:45] <Psil0Cybin> okay no loopback
[04:45] <rww> Psil0Cybin: auto eth0, then iface eth0 inet dhcp
[04:46] <kevin_> necesito instalar, personalizar y configurar el kernel de linux en xubuntu!! ayuda???
[04:46] <Psil0Cybin> sudo ifup eth0
[04:46] <Psil0Cybin> just sticks at _
[04:46] <Psil0Cybin> though so should I restart?
[04:46] <rww> ubottu: es | kevin_
[04:46] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, pastebin your interfaces file
[04:47] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, ctrl-c if ifup hung
[04:47] <Psil0Cybin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6713016/
[04:47] <Psil0Cybin> without top #
[04:47] <Psil0Cybin> becasue I am typing it out
[04:48] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, that should do it...
[04:48] <Psil0Cybin> alright restarting, trying it out
[04:48] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, hrm... the ifup should have done it
[04:48] <Psil0Cybin> oh...
[04:48] <ubuntuaddicted> Beldar, thanks, i am familar with psychocats website, it's awesome
[04:49] <Psil0Cybin> my startup is hanging on waiting for network configuration
[04:49] <Psil0Cybin> now psusi when I restarted.
[04:49] <Psil0Cybin> waiting 60 more seconds for network configuration
[04:49] <Psil0Cybin> it says
[04:50] <Psil0Cybin> the eth0 light in the back is red though..
[04:50] <Psil0Cybin> okay it booted in, but no internet.
[04:51] <Psil0Cybin> ifconfig states eth0 is up but RX packets: 2
[04:51] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, and it has an IP address?
[04:51] <Psil0Cybin> no ipl
[04:52] <Psil0Cybin> maybe it could be because i am using IPv4?
[04:52] <Psil0Cybin> becasue i only see inet6 addr: fe80::96de
[04:52] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, are you sure you have it plugged into a router that supports DHCP?
[04:52] <rww> having an fe80:: IPv6 address is normal
[04:53] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: i am unsure, but i know that when ever anyone works anyone that plugs the etho wire into the computer, gets internet right away, no delay...nothing.
[04:53] <systemfish> hi, looking for a substitute to android. Even though I disabled synchronization, every "upload this and that" and anything remotely related.. my photos were uploaded to google's server exactly when I activated its "app store". I heard that there's something called ubuntu phone, no?
[04:53] <Psil0Cybin> I tried it on my laptop thosands of times just now and the wire works fine
[04:53] <Psil0Cybin> with fast internet speeds, it is just odd for this server.
[04:54] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, so sudo ifconfig eth0 shows no inet address?  try sudo ifup eth0?  and if that doesn't work, sudo ethclient eth0
[04:55] <Psil0Cybin> sudo ifup eth0 says ifup interface eth0 already configured
[04:55] <Psil0Cybin> sudo ethclient command not found
[04:56] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, pastebin sudo ifconfig eth0 again
[04:58] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6713041/
[05:00] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, that's... strange... try sudo ifdown eth0, then ifup
[05:01] <nevyn> systemfish: openmoko
[05:01] <nevyn> if you can find hardware to run it?
[05:02] <Psil0Cybin> okay i did both those commands psusi but sudo ifup eth0, causes a hang.
[05:02] <Psil0Cybin> _
[05:02] <Psil0Cybin> ctrl+ C and ping www.google.ca causes unknown host.
[05:03] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: does thiat mean it is just not going to work ?
[05:03] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, does ifconfig show an inet address?
[05:04] <psusi> psusi, no, this is just a silly configuration problem
[05:04] <Psil0Cybin> no :(
[05:04] <Psil0Cybin> no inet address.
[05:04] <Psil0Cybin> only inet under lo
[05:04] <psusi> do the ifup again and give it a bit
[05:04] <Psil0Cybin> kk
[05:04] <|jemc|> hey folks, I have an external usb apple keyboard that maps the F1-12 keys to "media" keys (XF86Whatever) unless I am holding the Fn button, at which point they become F1-12 as God intended.  In OSX, I can swap this behavior with a user setting.  Anybody know if I can get Ubuntu to do the same for me?
[05:04] <Psil0Cybin> sudo ifup eth0 already configured
[05:04] <DF3D2> having a video pixelation problem with VLC.......
[05:04] <Psil0Cybin> so do ifdown than ifup again?
[05:04] <nevyn> systemfish: arduphone?
[05:04] <psusi> yep
[05:05] <DF3D2> every once in awhile it randomly pixelates for a second
[05:05] <Psil0Cybin> alright running that command, I am going to let it hang for a bit.
[05:05] <DF3D2> ive tried al combos of no h/w acceleration / overlay
[05:05] <DF3D2> or hw acceleration, or hw acceleration + overlay
[05:06] <|jemc|> ah nevermind, I think I found it on ArchWiki
[05:06] <|jemc|> /sys/module/hid_apple/parameters/fnmode
[05:07] <|jemc|> yeah, it works
[05:07] <|jemc|> thanks anyway, folks :)
 It just hangs up on that command, nothing no luck... i am scared to even do the ctrl + c and ifconfig command again to just not see a inet addr >.< lol
[05:07] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, ctrl-c and run dhclient again and see if that gets an address
[05:08] <DF3D2> having a video pixelation problem with VLC.......cant seem to fix it
[05:08] <nevyn> systemfish: http://www.freetronics.com/products/arduphone-arduino-compatible-cellphone#.UszdKVPT6dg
[05:08] <Psil0Cybin> did the dhclient, again worked successfully....did ifconfig, No ip.
[05:08] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, what's ifconfig eth0 show now?
[05:09] <Psil0Cybin> I think almost the same thing just RX packets 10, and TX packets dropped : 106 now.
[05:09] <Psil0Cybin> could it be the inet6 addr?
[05:09] <Psil0Cybin> it would show the working inet addr as well?
[05:10] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, ip6 always assigns a link local address... you want an inet ( ip4 ) address
[05:10] <Beldar> systemfish, #ubuntu-touch
[05:10] <psusi> psusi, I thought earlier dhclient got an IP address?
[05:10] <Psil0Cybin> yea i am aware psusi i am just confused why it wont assign me an ip...when this works on everything else.
[05:10] <Psil0Cybin> no i never got an ip from dhclient
[05:10] <Psil0Cybin> my problem has been this eth0 card the whole time, or some driver is iffy
[05:11] <dogmover> a $15 ethernet card from walmart would go a long way toward troubleshooting this right now...
[05:11] <Psil0Cybin> well
[05:11] <Psil0Cybin> i already got a 15$ ethernet card
[05:11] <psusi> I don't think it's a driver problem... I think it's a your router is being stupid problem...
[05:11] <dogmover> or one from another machine
[05:11] <Psil0Cybin> when they built this machine 2 days ago, so.... i do not think this will solve the issue.
[05:12] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: really my router?
[05:12] <Psil0Cybin> but how come every other machine works? even my other linux box's, windows, mac
[05:12] <DF3D2> having a video pixelation problem with VLC.......cant seem to fix it
[05:12] <Psil0Cybin> eith the same eth0 wire :S
[05:12] <dogmover> if you take that cable  and put it in another macine and reboot it, does it get an ip?
[05:12] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, I'd pick and assign a static IP address
[05:12] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: alright, how can I attempt to go about this?
[05:12] <Psil0Cybin> do I need my router details?
[05:13] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, yea
[05:13] <Psil0Cybin> okay, so i might need to wait for that tmwro my boss is out of the office..anything else i can attempt to troubleshoot this right now before I leave?
[05:13] <Psil0Cybin> dogmover: yes if i put it in another machine it does.
[05:13] <Psil0Cybin> it seems like it is this specific machine, that is not connecting to the internet or .... is misconfigured
[05:13] <Psil0Cybin> or the driver.
[05:13] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, I'd say call it a night... I'm about to since it's after midnight
[05:13] <dogmover> get the gateway address and ip from another machine - turn that machine off - use it on this one
[05:13] <Psil0Cybin> yea, i guess that is what i might do.
[05:14] <Psil0Cybin> i could do that now tho dogmover .
[05:14] <Psil0Cybin> should i try that before I leave?
[05:14] <dogmover> it's your day, brother ;)
[05:14] <Psil0Cybin> okay you know what
[05:14] <Psil0Cybin> i might call it a night
[05:14] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, you might get on another linux machine on the network and use ping6 to ping the ip6 address that it is auto configuring and make sure that works... if it does, the hardware is fine
[05:14] <Psil0Cybin> hmmm
[05:15] <Psil0Cybin> i am on another machine right now linux machine
[05:15] <Psil0Cybin> how would I use ping6, in order to check...I think i always had problems with IPv6 though everywhere i went
[05:15] <Psil0Cybin> so I assumed, maybe this place has IPv4...thus that might be causing the issue
[05:16] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, sudo ping6 -I eth0 ip:addr:of:the:server
[05:16] <dogmover> I would almost bet you my car you are using IPv4 only
[05:16] <Psil0Cybin> because restarting the machine hangs on waiting for network config and than waiting up to 60 more seocnds for network conf
[05:16] <Psil0Cybin> probably. dogmover
[05:16] <Psil0Cybin> that would make sense.
[05:16] <psusi> dogmover, ip6 always auto configures a link local address... something seems to be screwing up the ip4 configuration, so an IP 6 ping would at least make sure the hardware works fine without the need for a proper ip4 config
[05:17] <dogmover> try the ping like psusi said - that would be instructive
[05:18] <dogmover> psusi: i agree completely
[05:22] <truba> I have installed lxde using sudo apt-get install lxde
[05:22] <truba> its working quite ohk for now
[05:23] <Psil0Cybin> alright
[05:23] <Psil0Cybin> no luck, cannot figure it out the ip to default gateway pinging <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:23] <Psil0Cybin> does not work with that command you said
[05:23] <Psil0Cybin> keep getting unknown host but the internet works through the ethernet
 should I just call it a night? since it seems like it cannot be fixed atm?
[05:24] <Psil0Cybin> and you are hitting the hay shortly, without you i would be lost.
[05:24] <Psil0Cybin> aha
[05:25] <steven__> Arch > Ubuntu
[05:25] <steven__> trololololol!
[05:25] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, that is an IP4 address, you need to use the ip6 address
[05:25] <Psil0Cybin> can I not get an ip to work through IP4, I do not think IPv6 ever works for me...
[05:25] <Psil0Cybin> I have it disabled on my XSubuntu machine
[05:26] <Psil0Cybin> Xubuntu*
[05:26] <Psil0Cybin> how do i find out my ipv6 ip once I connect the wire ? through the Connection Information on XUbuntu?
[05:27] <dogmover> ifconfig
[05:28] <Fou> has anyone install and configured owncloud corectly ?
[05:28] <SchrodingersScat> !polls | Fou
[05:28] <hipitihop> I get constant trace in my dmesg like "[16875.663868] input input12: event field not found" how can I found out what is causing this and supress it as it fills up my dmesg making | tail useless
[05:28] <Psil0Cybin> when i connect the wire
[05:28] <Psil0Cybin> i only get IPv6
[05:28] <Psil0Cybin> i mean IPv4.
[05:28] <SchrodingersScat> !anyone
[05:29] <Psil0Cybin> k one second
[05:29] <Psil0Cybin> look at this pastebin
[05:29] <Psil0Cybin> this is ifconfig with the wire in, my other machine. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6713123/
[05:30] <Psil0Cybin> sory guys got disconnected
[05:30] <Psil0Cybin> this is ifconfig with the wire in, my other machine. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6713123/
[05:30] <Fou> im not asking for there opion im asking has anyone set that up because i need help
[05:31] <Psil0Cybin> dogmover: does that explain anything?
[05:31] <Psil0Cybin> could I made that one my static IP?
[05:31] <Psil0Cybin> <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[05:32] <dogmover> yes - if you turn it off - but it would be better to think of an address not being used.
[05:32] <dogmover> how many machines are there?
[05:33] <Psil0Cybin> 3
[05:33] <smacktalk1> is there a vmware powercli equivalent for ubuntu?
[05:33] <dogmover> try <IP_ADDRESS> - I'm just guessing it is not being used
[05:33] <dogmover> do you know the gateway?
[05:33] <Psil0Cybin> okay, so how can I set that as a staatic ip?
[05:33] <Psil0Cybin> it said default route
[05:33] <Psil0Cybin> <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:34] <Psil0Cybin> and primary dns are the same
[05:34] <dogmover> Psil0Cybin: look at this  - http://www.howtoforge.com/linux-basics-set-a-static-ip-on-ubuntu
[05:34] <Psil0Cybin> but when I enter that address in my internet bar
[05:34] <Psil0Cybin> i get nothing only from <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:34] <dogmover> dns won't matter since you are only using ip
[05:35] <dogmover> you get nothing because there is no web service at that iip
[05:35] <dogmover> ip, rather
[05:35] <dogmover> so you have your gateway, <IP_ADDRESS>, and an IP address - try putting them in.
[05:36] <Daemoen> is it possible to tell preseed that you want to manually partition ?
[05:36] <Psil0Cybin> i tried setting inet dynamic
[05:36] <Psil0Cybin> for eth0 and i am getting fails by virtual network devices
[05:36] <Psil0Cybin> and configure network devices
[05:37] <Psil0Cybin> i am going to have to undo that...
[05:37] <Psil0Cybin> i do not think anything will work the way this is going...wth