[08:48] <trollboy> now just go through the disk app in administration?
[08:48] <billybob> mojo: i wouldnt know, but if i were to guess, id say no ;)
[08:48] <Paddy_EIRE_> Nanoer, here is the link, 1 sec
[08:48] <shatrat> Paddy_EIRE, thats very not recommended
[08:48] <Nanoer> ok
[08:48] <Paddy_EIRE_> shatrat, works perfect
[08:48] <billybob> mojo: this specific removal as in evms, ive researched ;)
[08:48] <shatrat> Paddy_EIRE, for you maybe
[08:49] <shatrat> !worksforme
[08:49] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[08:49] <Paddy_EIRE_> shatrat, same risk as installing of the cd mate
[08:49] <mojo> i love sitting in here... i always learn something new
[08:49] <ahave> what if my keyboard type is not listed in the ubuntu drop down list for keyboards?
[08:49] <billybob> well ive researched, and implemented.
[08:49] <Paddy_EIRE_> Nanoer, http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/
[08:49] <trollboy> and plus it gets me to reboot
[08:49] <trollboy> ;-)
[08:49] <trollboy> trying the format now
[08:50] <trollboy> then gunna reboot and try again on failure
[08:50] <billybob> mojo: i had isssues mounting a newly installed drive, did soem researching using google, and turned up with that, removed the packages, and saw no adverse effects, so i would say, removing evms, and related packages is OK if you're not using LVM ;)
[08:50] <Nanoer> when i go to the link it says server is taking too long to respond
[08:50] <mojo> trollboy: there is no try on failure, there is only do on failure
[08:50] <mojo> lol
[08:50] <billybob> alhough i have noticed the LVM packages still seem to function correctly even without evms installed
[08:51] <mojo> billybob: so un-installing a meta-package won't un-install all the things it depends on... only works the other way around (that the dep's get installed if you install it), right??
[08:51] <gharz> can somebody help me please... i've manually installed the latest kernel to 2.6.19-2 and network-admin doesn't show my intel pro 2100 wireless. any idea?
[08:51] <lolman> Can you still use software RAID in Ubuntu or not?
[08:51] <billybob> mojo: again, no idea.
[08:51] <gharz> i've searched google and nothing gives me the answers.
[08:51] <trollboy> and now I reboot
[08:51] <mojo> trollboy: /me prefers tilt-mode ;)
[08:51] <trollboy> wish me luck
[08:52] <billybob> mojo: if you're trying to say something, come out and say it already ;)
[08:52] <Paddy_EIRE_> Nanoer, keep tryin the link
[08:52] <kristjans> can i get a trashcan on the desktop?
[08:52] <Nanoer> any clue i can just get like a command prompt?
[08:52] <Nanoer> *any clue how
[08:52] <Nanoer> so i just type in install
[08:52] <Nanoer> and it does?
[08:52] <sparr> does ubuntu provide a gui to access update-alternatives?
[08:52] <julian_> anybody know why I would have slow transfer speeds of a USB 2.0 disk.  its using ehci_hcd and it knows that its a full speed usb 2.0 device
[08:52] <billybob> luck shouldnt be needed for removing evms . . .
[08:53] <billybob> evms -> enterprise volume management . . .
[08:53] <Nanoer> because the whole reason i'm trying get ubuntu on is to get kubuntu because the computer only has 128MB ram
[08:53] <Nanoer> keeps freezing at the loading screen
[08:53] <AMREENA> does ubuntu provide a windows Cds like XP Win98 etc?
[08:53] <Paddy_EIRE_> AMAG, yep
[08:53] <Paddy_EIRE_> oops
[08:53] <mojo> billybob: i mean that uninstalling a meta package like ubuntu-base won't make apt un-install all the things that ubuntu-base "depends" on, just uninstalls the meta package... whereas installing a meta package causes a bunch of stuff it depends on to be loaded... i.e. the purpose of a meta-package, to group a bunch of stuff for easy install.  right?
[08:53] <Paddy_EIRE_> AMREENA, yes it does
[08:53] <AMREENA> ok
[08:53] <lolman> AMREENA: yes, you can download them
[08:54] <posingaspopular> Nanoer: you might want to consider xubuntu if you only have 123 RAM
[08:54] <cafuego_> Nanoer: Kubuntu won't be great on 128Mb ram.
[08:54] <AMREENA> and by shiping ?
[08:54] <posingaspopular> 138mbRAM
[08:54] <billybob> mojo: well the removal of said package, has ben documented all over the web, and has no ill effects, that im aware of, even after doing so myslef
[08:54] <lolman> Or order some from Ship-It (If they still do the dapper cds)
[08:54] <cafuego_> posingaspopular: tsss
[08:54] <lolman> !shipit
[08:54] <ubotu> shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will not send Edgy (6.10) CDs, but only Dapper (6.06) CDs, as Dapper is a !LTS release.
[08:54] <billybob> mojo: now if you're saying there is a better way, im all ears :)
[08:54] <posingaspopular> cafuego_: tsss?
[08:54] <mojo> billybob: good.  i am not arguing, btw.. i am just making sure i understand because i did not realize that before
[08:54] <Nanoer> well what should i get theN/
[08:54] <cafuego_> posingaspopular: Repeat after me. "128" ;-)
[08:54] <Nanoer> i need to be able to run open office on it
[08:55] <cafuego_> Nanoer: Xubuntu will be fine.
[08:55] <billybob> mojo: oh no, youve got me wrong, im all for learning to do things the proper way, if ive been doing it wrong
[08:55] <Nanoer> ok
[08:55] <lolman> On 128MB RAM I'd run fluxbox :P
[08:55] <cafuego_> Nanoer: But openoffice will groan. it'll run, but it won't start quickly.
[08:55] <julian_> does ntfs-3g write to an NTFS partitions slow?
[08:55] <AMREENA> i wand to ubuntu send me these Cds . so any link for this
[08:55] <lolman> !shipit | AMREENA
[08:55] <ubotu> AMREENA: shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will not send Edgy (6.10) CDs, but only Dapper (6.06) CDs, as Dapper is a !LTS release.
[08:55] <cafuego_> AMREENA: http://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[08:55] <Nanoer> well i'm trying to get my parents to not waste 100 bucks on xp just for excel
[08:55] <billybob> mojo: honestly, i dont know *if* that has any side effects, but ive done it myself, and seen none
[08:55] <Nanoer> so it'll have to do
[08:56] <AMREENA> ok thanx cafuego
[08:56] <mackinac> I am trying to install a gnome desktop on top of a server install. Having trouble with xserver i think... I get a gdm login, but then it logs me into a tiny terminal window
[08:56] <cafuego_> Nanoer: Get them to waste $25 on a stick of ram ;-)
[08:56] <Nanoer> lol
[08:56] <cafuego_> Nanoer: Coz 128Mb isn't going to run XP
[08:56] <Nanoer> =0 nice idea
[08:56] <Nanoer> it is tho
[08:56] <Nanoer> right now
[08:56] <Nanoer> we have a 14 day trial thing
[08:56] <billybob> lol
[08:56] <Nanoer> it runs faster than knoppix
[08:56] <lolman> Nanoer: ewww
[08:56] <Nanoer> which is freaky
[08:56] <AMREENA> cafuego i already search it but there is no option of windows Cds like Xp and win98
[08:57] <cafuego_> Nanoer: Of course, it's not running off a cd and using a bunch of ram as ramdisk.
[08:57] <elkbuntu> Nanoer, because knoppix runs from a cd. running an operating system from a cd is very slow
[08:57] <Nanoer> oh
[08:57] <cafuego_> AMREENA: Why would Ubuntu sell you windows?
[08:57] <mojo> anyone here really good with x11 stuff?
[08:57] <billybob> dpk-reconfigure x11 ?!
[08:57] <AMREENA> cafuego wat do u mean ?
[08:57] <Muzik83> mackinac: could it be TWM which you are logging into?  have you tried changing your session
[08:57] <mojo> lol @ billybob
[08:57] <billybob> dpkg . . .
[08:58] <cafuego_> Nanoer: Seriously though, OOo is really nice and they'll be happy enough with it. If they can invest in an extra 28Mb though, they'll be even happier.
[08:58] <Flannel> AMREENA: ubuntu provides ubuntu, ubuntu doesn't ship windows.  It's an alternative to windows
[08:58] <Nanoer> no place sells that low ram for laptops anymore though
[08:58] <cafuego_> Nanoer: If not, gnumeric is far more lightweight than OOcalc and kinda nifty :-)
[08:58] <Nanoer> is it spreadsheet?
[08:58] <cafuego_> extra 128, sorry
[08:58] <elkbuntu> Nanoer, he meant 128mb
[08:58] <billybob> mojo: toss the wuestion out, perhaps i know. not that i know everything
[08:58] <AMREENA> ok
[08:58] <mackinac> Muzik83, no, how?
[08:58] <billybob> question*
[08:58] <cafuego_> Nanoer: Yup
[08:58] <Nanoer> i know but no place sells that low
[08:59] <Nanoer> best buy has like 512
[08:59] <Nanoer> but it's like 60 bucks
[08:59] <elkbuntu> Nanoer, try ebay
[08:59] <cafuego_> Nanoer: Any local places that sell second hand machines?
[08:59] <Nanoer> googling right now
[08:59] <Nanoer> lol
[08:59] <mojo> billybob: no, i just installed beryl, and am having problems with video now.... like i was saying earlier, my vlc player was grrrreat until very recently.  it does not like beryl (or vice versa)...  wondering about aiglx and xvideo and opengl video and such
[08:59] <yell0w> Nanoer, go to second hand warehouses :) i saw 128 for 12 and 256 for 20
[08:59] <fiberchunks> what kind of ram?
[08:59] <Nanoer> laptop
[08:59] <billybob> !beryl
[08:59] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:59] <cafuego_> Nanoer: pc100? pc133? ddr?
[08:59] <billybob> you tried that channel ?
[09:00] <Nanoer> uh..
[09:00] <cafuego_> Nanoer: what cpu?
[09:00] <mojo> yeah, i have before.. just thought i'd try in here
[09:00] <Nanoer> pentium 3
[09:00] <illriginal> Can someone PLEASE help me with Azureus... or recommend me a BETTER Torrent Program?!
[09:00] <cafuego_> pc133 then
[09:00] <Nanoer> ok
[09:00] <elkbuntu> Nanoer, do you know what model the computer is?
[09:00] <Muzik83> mackinac: this is a guess as to what your problem is, so this may not solve it, but in the login window probably in the bottom left corner, there is a "change session"
[09:00] <mojo> illriginal: your az shuts down immediately>
[09:00] <fiberchunks> pc133 sdram?
[09:00] <elkbuntu> (and brand)
[09:00] <billybob> mojo: does vlc even support berly accelerated desktops ?
[09:00] <illriginal> yeah mojo ><
[09:00] <Nanoer> yes hp omnibook xe3
[09:00] <cafuego_> Oh, unless it's rdram.  did that ever go into laptops?
[09:00] <mackinac> right
[09:00] <billybob> beryl*
[09:00] <posingaspopular> room: I need to reinstall my GRUB. where can i find info on that?
[09:01] <illriginal> as soon as i open it, it loads up the torrents it's currently about to start downloadin
[09:01] <cafuego_> fiberchunks: Yeh, most likely.
[09:01] <illriginal> and then shuts down quickly.
[09:01] <mackinac> Muzik83, ill try
[09:01] <mojo> illriginal: well lemme see if it keeps a log file somewheres... or maybe java does... how do other java apps work for you?
[09:01] <JDski> posingaspopular: try google
[09:01] <Flannel> !grub | posingaspopular, first link
[09:01] <ubotu> posingaspopular, first link: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:01] <Flannel> JDski: that attitude is not welcome here
[09:01] <fiberchunks> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820172002  << nanoer -- I thinks it's the right one
[09:01] <illriginal> i honestly believe i dont have any other java apps.
[09:01] <posingaspopular> Flannel: thanks
[09:01] <Nanoer> thanks
[09:01] <fiberchunks> cafuego, is that 144 pin? I can't remember
[09:01] <illriginal> i just finished installing sun 6
[09:01] <JDski> what attitude? that's what i always do when i need info when hacking my system
[09:01] <cafuego_> fiberchunks: no idea :-)
[09:02] <mojo> billybob: i dunno... it will work, but beryly (thats a punny one)... well mplayer has problems with beryl too, actually
[09:02] <JDski> usually the first 3 links are the best
[09:02] <billybob> mojo: i take it youve reconfigured vlc ?
[09:02] <mojo> billybob: i tried every video out setting
[09:02] <JDski> excuse me for passing on my work tips
[09:02] <Paddy_EIRE_> Nanoer, how are you gettin on
[09:02] <Nanoer> i'm trying to see if i can figure out how to get a command prompt or something going
[09:02] <elkbuntu> Flannel, there's a difference between jfgi and a genuine response to a 'where' question
[09:02] <mojo> illriginal: you have any other java apps to try?  oh, i am not sure i have tried java 6
[09:03] <fiberchunks> Nanoer, yah, that should be the right RAM I posted up there
[09:03] <Nanoer> right now it's at a screen that let's me pick things like start ubuntu memory test boot from first hard disk
[09:03] <billybob> mojo: i dont know hwo the architecture works, but i would think, there probably is an alternative video method being used now, so perhaps somethign along the lines of a dpkg-rteconfigure vlc is needed ?
[09:03] <Nanoer>  k thanks it looks right
[09:03] <illriginal> mojo i dont think i have any to begin with.. only azureus
[09:03] <Nanoer> i opened it up once and it looks almost the same at the ram inside
[09:04] <mojo> illriginal: I am using Java 1.5.0_08  Sun Microsystems Inc. SWT v3318, gtk Linux v2.6.17-10-386, i386
[09:04] <JDski> posingaspopular: what's wrong with your grub?
[09:04] <posingaspopular> room: when i get to grub, at grub> root hd0, it spits back 'unrecofnized string device'
[09:04] <chalcedony> i opened www.anywho.org and got a popup ad that enlarged my firefox. (ubuntu edgy) HOW can i reset firefox to the size i had it?
[09:04] <mojo> billybob: you like that dpkg-reconfigure command lots, lol
[09:04] <posingaspopular> JDski: it wont boot ubuntu right
[09:04] <Nanoer> i'm gonna try a last ditch effort before buying the ram
[09:04] <JDski> hmm
[09:04] <JDski> running dual boot?
[09:04] <Nanoer> try to burn xubuntu alternate cd
[09:05] <JDski> or single?
[09:05] <chalcedony> Nanoer: you can hardly go bad with more ram
[09:05] <posingaspopular> yea ubuntu and XP
[09:05] <Nanoer> it's my parent's laptop though
[09:05] <Nanoer> the less money they spend the more i can get
[09:05] <mojo> billybob: but it is worth a try for sure.  i had thought maybe since i switched from fglrx to ati driver (so i could get aiglx) that i needed something more in my xorg.conf but it seems to work fine with metacity (both vlc and mplayer).
[09:05] <chalcedony> ask them to pay for it they will love it
[09:05] <billybob> mojo: i dont even know if vlc is a 'deb' install or not, im jsut saying, you're using a different video 'driver' for your desktop now, so somethign nEEDS to tell vlc
[09:05] <JDski> i've this box on ubuntu and 2k pro
[09:05] <Nanoer> they don't care if it's slow
[09:05] <Nanoer> but see
[09:05] <Nanoer> they use it
[09:05] <JDski> lemme dig up my grub
[09:05] <cafuego_> Nanoer: have a play with xubuntu first, see if the ram is REALLY needed.
[09:05] <posingaspopular> thanks
[09:05] <JDski> np
[09:05] <Nanoer> if i save them 100 bucks on it so they don't have ot buy xp
[09:05] <Nanoer> i get the 100 bucks
[09:05] <mojo> illriginal: how about frostwire (or limewire)... they run on java
[09:06] <Nanoer> since they would be spending it anyway
[09:06] <chalcedony> cafuego: is probably right Nanoer .. enjoy
[09:06] <Nanoer> thanks
[09:06] <cafuego_> chalcedony: Of course I am :-)
[09:06] <chalcedony> :)
[09:06] <Nanoer> when i burn it
[09:06] <Nanoer> does it matter if it's a dvd +r or -r?
[09:06] <mojo> illriginal: well let me see i'll peek in the /opt/azureus and /var/log to see if az logs anything
[09:06] <chalcedony> i can't seem to make firefox do anything :(
[09:06] <cafuego_> Nanoer: nope
[09:06] <billybob> mojo: although, i suppose it is also possible, that vlc, and beryl are incompatable at current . . .
[09:06] <Nanoer> ok
[09:06] <illriginal> mojo im using: Blackdown Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition, Java runtime environment using GIJ, ok
[09:07] <Nanoer> i'm gonna finish this tomorrow it's late and i need to take a break
[09:07] <Nanoer> been at this for like 10 hours now
[09:07] <JDski> move to /query posingaspopular
[09:07] <chalcedony> firefox is taking up one full monitor .. thank goodness i have two
[09:07] <posingaspopular> uh is that PM?
[09:07] <cafuego_> Nanoer: Oh!
[09:07] <Nanoer> bye and thanks for all the help everyone
[09:07] <JDski> aye
[09:07] <illriginal> Java plugin for mozilla/firefox <- as well
[09:07] <cafuego_> Nanoer: Before you buy ram, check to see if it has 2x64M or 1x128M now.
[09:07] <JDski> opens up a seperate window
[09:07] <mojo> illriginal: hmm.. don't know how azureus works with blackdown... but it could be your problem.  just wild guessing though.  there is a command, i forget, to choose which java... hmm..
[09:07] <Jimmey> How cna I change the permission on my second hard drive so that everyone can write to it?
[09:07] <posingaspopular> done
[09:07] <chalcedony> bye Nanoer good luck with it
[09:07] <Nanoer> it has 2 slots
[09:07] <chalcedony> sleep well
[09:07] <illriginal> hm..
[09:08] <Nanoer> thanks and night
[09:08] <chris_> posingaspopular: whats the output of # cat /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:08] <lolmam_> Hah this live cd doesn't want to work...just had to boot it in safe graphics mode
[09:08] <mojo> billybob: it could be.. i have not had much time to research it yet... as always doing 5 things at once, ya know...  :)
[09:08] <posingaspopular> i got nothing back
[09:09] <chalcedony> illriginal: i opened anywho .. a popup ad made my firefox huge.. i closed it and it is still HUGE even though i didnt reload the pages.
[09:09] <chris_> posingaspopular: sudo mount -t /boot
[09:09] <chris_> posingaspopular: then try # cat /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:10] <posingaspopular> chris_: sudo mount -t boot, gets me back to ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[09:10] <chalcedony> where's the home network for firefox?
[09:10] <illriginal> maybe ill just stick to bit torrent... this is drivin me nuts
[09:10] <mojo> illriginal: look in /opt/azureus and see if you have any hs_err_pidXXXX.log files - if you do that might give clues
[09:10] <cafuego_> posingaspopular: What is 'sudo mount -t boot' supposed to do?
[09:10] <posingaspopular> i have no idea!
[09:10] <chris_> posingaspopular: # mount -t /boot  not mount -t boot
[09:10] <posingaspopular> i dont know how to do this
[09:11] <posingaspopular> chris_: yea thats what i typed, i did a typo on irc
[09:11] <chris_> posingaspopular: # cd /boot/
[09:11] <cafuego_> chris_: that is the 'boot/' filesystemtype?
[09:11] <johnzo_> hi all, any alsa people here?  I'm having trouble capturing audio via line-in.
[09:11] <posingaspopular> that didnt do anything either
[09:11] <chris_> cafuego_: that is where /boot/grub is located
[09:11] <billybob> mojo: google isnt turning up much either
[09:12] <chris_> posingaspopular: now do # ls -l
[09:12] <Poseiden> I'd like to move a server, currently running Debian etch, to dapper.  Is there a howto or something that I've not yet found that will help avoid the nasty package version collisions and deps problems?
[09:12] <lolman> Is software RAID possible in Ubuntu now? I know it was in Breezy
[09:12] <mojo> billybob: yeah, i didn't have much luck with google either
[09:12] <cafuego_> chris_:  -t specifies a filesystem type, not a mount point.
[09:12] <chris_> posingaspopular: you should see a grub folder?
[09:12] <posingaspopular> im not seeing anything
[09:12] <illriginal> mojo lol i can't find it.
[09:12] <posingaspopular> this is in the terminal right
[09:12] <illriginal> cna't find my folder.
[09:12] <Jimmey> How can I change the permissions on my second hard drive so that everyone can read/write to it?
[09:12] <mojo> illriginal: you may google azureus and blackdown to see if others have mentioned problems with the two...
[09:12] <snail> is there anything i can do about the slowly rising size of x on dapper? or is a two month old xsession meant to explode the Xorg process to 367 megs of memory?
[09:12] <billybob> mojo: ATI or nvidia ?
[09:13] <billybob> mojo seems ATI users are having more difficulties
[09:13] <chris_> cafuego_: lol, oh your right.. I was just helping someone else with a samba mount an had that in my head still
[09:13] <chris_> posingaspopular: # mount /boot
[09:13] <snail> chalcedony: there isn't a home network on firefox
[09:13] <mojo> illriginal: well then that just means none were created... it appears to be a crash log from "hot spot java" whatever that is.
[09:13] <ardchoille> billybob: I've never had a prob with nvidia cards, can't say the same for ATI cards.
[09:13] <illriginal> no no im tryin to find the .azureus album
[09:13] <billybob> ATI users have loads more problems in X
[09:14] <posingaspopular> everything i type gets me back to ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[09:14] <JDski> check msgs posingaspopular
[09:14] <JDski> you can change parts as they'd apply to your system
[09:14] <ardchoille> billybob: Ah, so I wasn't alone.
[09:14] <chris_> posingaspopular: thats fine
[09:14] <JDski> #            grub-install(8), grub-floppy(8),
[09:14] <JDski> #            grub-md5-crypt, /usr/share/doc/grub
[09:14] <snail> posingaspopular: yep, that's the prompt
[09:14] <JDski> #            and /usr/share/doc/grub-doc/.
[09:14] <JDski> ## default num
[09:14] <JDski> # Set the default entry to the entry number NUM. Numbering starts from 0, and
[09:14] <illriginal> there's nothin in /opt folder.
[09:14] <JDski> # the entry number 0 is the default if the command is not used.
[09:14] <JDski> #
[09:14] <JDski> # You can specify 'saved' instead of a number. In this case, the default entry
[09:14] <JDski> # is the entry saved with the command 'savedefault'.
[09:14] <JDski> # WARNING: If you are using dmraid do not change this entry to 'saved' or your
[09:14] <JDski> # array will desync and will not let you boot your system.
[09:14] <fiberchunks> aieeee
[09:14] <JDski> default		0
[09:14] <JDski> ## timeout sec
[09:14] <JDski> # Set a timeout, in SEC seconds, before automatically booting the default entry
[09:14] <JDski> # (normally the first entry defined).
[09:14] <posingaspopular> ahhhh this sounds like gibberish to me
[09:14] <JDski> timeout		10
[09:14] <posingaspopular> !
[09:14] <JDski> ## hiddenmenu
[09:14] <JDski> # Hides the menu by default (press ESC to see the menu)
[09:14] <mojo> illriginal: i can't find any log files for java either
[09:14] <JDski> #hiddenmenu
[09:14] <JDski> # Pretty colours
[09:14] <billybob> someone needs to learn what a pastie site is for . . .
[09:14] <JDski> color green/black light-green/red
[09:15] <JDski> ## password ['--md5']  passwd
[09:15] <JDski> # If used in the first section of a menu file, disable all interactive editing
[09:15] <JDski> # control (menu entry editor and command-line)  and entries protected by the
[09:15] <JDski> # command 'lock'
[09:15] <JDski> # e.g. password topsecret
[09:15] <JDski> #      password --md5 $1$gLhU0/$aW78kHK1QfV3P2b2znUoe/
[09:15] <JDski> # password topsecret
[09:15] <JDski> #
[09:15] <JDski> # examples
[09:15] <JDski> #
[09:15] <JDski> # title		Windows 95/98/NT/2000
[09:15] <JDski> # root		(hd0,0)
[09:15] <JDski> # makeactive
[09:15] <JDski> # chainloader	+1
[09:15] <JDski> #
[09:15] <JDski> # title		Linux
[09:15] <JDski> # root		(hd0,1)
[09:15] <JDski> # kernel	/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 ro
[09:15] <JDski> #
[09:15] <JDski> #
[09:15] <Poseiden> JDski: leave the channel when you make a booboo like that.
[09:15] <JDski> # Put static boot stanzas before and/or after AUTOMAGIC KERNEL LIST
[09:15] <lars__>  wtf
[09:15] <JDski> ### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
[09:15] <JDski> ## lines between the AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST markers will be modified
[09:15] <JDski> ## by the debian update-grub script except for the default options below
[09:15] <JDski> ## DO NOT UNCOMMENT THEM, Just edit them to your needs
[09:15] <JDski> ## ## Start Default Options ##
[09:15] <JDski> ## default kernel options
[09:15] <JDski> ## default kernel options for automagic boot options
[09:16] <JDski> ## If you want special options for specific kernels use kopt_x_y_z
[09:16] <JDski> ## where x.y.z is kernel version. Minor versions can be omitted.
[09:16] <JDski> ## e.g. kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro
[09:16] <JDski> ##      kopt_2_6_8=root=/dev/hdc1 ro
[09:16] <JDski> ##      kopt_2_6_8_2_686=root=/dev/hdc2 ro
[09:16] <JDski> # kopt=root=UUID=76c9cec3-ba3e-4300-802e-4325200aa08e ro
[09:16] <JDski> ## default grub root device
[09:16] <JDski> ## e.g. groot=(hd0,0)
[09:16] <JDski> # groot=(hd1,1)
[09:16] <radar1976> ok someone stop this
[09:16] <JDski> ## should update-grub create alternative automagic boot options
[09:16] <JDski> ## e.g. alternative=true
[09:16] <JDski> ##      alternative=false
[09:16] <JDski> # alternative=true
[09:16] <JDski> ## should update-grub lock alternative automagic boot options
[09:16] <mojo> JDski: you should look into using pastebin my friend...
[09:16] <JDski> ## e.g. lockalternative=true
[09:16] <JDski> ##      lockalternative=false
[09:16] <Ian-C> I'm an old hand with computers, but new to Linux & Ubuntu.  I'm trying to do something simple in a script, but could use a helping hand.
[09:16] <JDski> # lockalternative=false
[09:16] <radar1976> !op JDski
[09:16] <JDski> ## additional options to use with the default boot option, but not with the
[09:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about op jdski - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:16] <JDski> ## alternatives
[09:16] <fiberchunks> wow, the bot doesn't filter floods?
[09:16] <JDski> ## e.g. defoptions=vga=791 resume=/dev/hda5
[09:16] <JDski> # defoptions=quiet splash
[09:16] <JDski> ## should update-grub lock old automagic boot options
[09:16] <JDski> ## e.g. lockold=false
[09:16] <snail> JDski: gee thanks for that, I never would have guessed...
[09:16] <JDski> ##      lockold=true
[09:16] <JDski> # lockold=false
[09:16] <snail> Ian-C: ask your question
[09:16] <JDski> ## Xen hypervisor options to use with the default Xen boot option
[09:16] <JDski> # xenhopt=
[09:16] <JDski> ## Xen Linux kernel options to use with the default Xen boot option
[09:17] <JDski> # xenkopt=console=tty0
[09:17] <JDski> ## altoption boot targets option
[09:17] <JDski> ## multiple altoptions lines are allowed
[09:17] <JDski> ## e.g. altoptions=(extra menu suffix) extra boot options
[09:17] <JDski> ##      altoptions=(recovery) single
[09:17] <JDski> # altoptions=(recovery mode) single
[09:17] <cafuego_> !paste > jdski
[09:17] <JDski> ## controls how many kernels should be put into the menu.lst
[09:17] <JDski> ## only counts the first occurence of a kernel, not the
[09:17] <JDski> ## alternative kernel options
[09:17] <JDski> ## e.g. howmany=all
[09:17] <JDski> ##      howmany=7
[09:17] <JDski> # howmany=all
[09:17] <cafuego_> JDski: Do *not* paste into the channel. EVER
[09:17] <radar1976> !op
[09:17] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[09:17] <JDski> ## should update-grub create memtest86 boot option
[09:17] <JDski> ## e.g. memtest86=true
[09:17] <JDski> ##      memtest86=false
[09:17] <JDski> # memtest86=true
[09:17] <cafuego_> thx
[09:17] <radar1976> thank you!!
[09:17] <youkilldkennedy> Hey
[09:17] <fiberchunks> thank god
[09:17] <radar1976> geesh
[09:17] <Hobbsee> holy cow - why didnt someone call ops earlier?
[09:18] <Madpilot> giant paste, anyone?
[09:18] <radar1976> I dunno...
[09:18] <billybob> hehe his menu.lst was almost done . . .
[09:18] <posingaspopular> man...
[09:18] <illriginal> Can someone please help me with AZUREUS.
[09:18] <posingaspopular> i didnt understand any of that
[09:18] <illriginal> jees this week linux has been a mess.
[09:18] <youkilldkennedy> illriginal: what do you need help with?
[09:18] <mojo> billybob: ati, yep.  i *was* doing great... multi head, accelerated 3d, on fglrx driver.. but i just *had* to have beryl, lol... now i have to work on getting vlc and mplayer to behave with beryl, and also have to revisit multihead setup
[09:18] <radar1976> was I the only person smart enough to call ops?
[09:18] <chris_> posingaspopular: /join #flood
[09:18] <Ian-C> I'm trying to start Gnomeradio,  then record something, then shut it down.  I've got the recording part down pat, just can't get Gnomeradio to start from a script.  Probably some syntax thing
[09:18] <JDski> root		(hd0,0)
[09:18] <JDski> savedefault
[09:18] <radar1976> NOW!!
[09:18] <JDski> makeactive
[09:18] <Kaso> hahah
[09:19] <JDski> chainloader	+1
[09:19] <JDski> ## ## End Default Options ##
[09:19] <cafuego_> !ops
[09:19] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[09:19] <JDski> title
[09:19] <JDski> title		Linux Box:
[09:19] <JDski> root
[09:19] <JDski> title		Ubuntu, 2.6.17-10-generic
[09:19] <radar1976> !ops
[09:19] <JDski> root		(hd1,1)
[09:19] <JDski> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/hdb2 ro quiet splash
[09:19] <billybob> ban time . . .
[09:19] <illriginal> gettin my azureus to stay open and not close as soon as i open it.
[09:19] <cafuego_> Madpilot: erm
[09:19] <JDski> initrd		/boot/initrd.img-2.6.17-10-generic
[09:19] <Madpilot> there
[09:19] <Hobbsee> oops!
[09:19] <radar1976> lol
[09:19] <cafuego_> You're all j* fascists!
[09:19] <youkilldkennedy> haha
[09:19] <snail> Ian-C: what command are you using? have you checked the manual page for the syntax?
[09:19] <cafuego_> Anyone else? ;-)
[09:19] <illriginal> Can someone please help me with AZUREUS.
[09:19] <Gog123> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6231308980849895261&q=genre%3Abusiness
[09:20] <Gog123> warren buffet :-)
[09:20] <mojo> illriginal: well did googling up blackdown and azureus come up with anything?
[09:20] <illriginal> nothin.
[09:20] <Madpilot> cafuego, just PM'd my mistaken kick, told him it was safe to return!
[09:20] <radar1976> NO!
[09:20] <mojo> illriginal: that is a good place to start...  i couldn't find where java logs errors, though even if i did i have sun java so it might not be the same place for you
[09:20] <JDski> sorry y'all
[09:20] <cafuego_> illriginal: Set your java to the gnu one, start azureus. Wait for it to load. Stop azureus, change java to the sun one. Done. Azureus bug, annoying but there ya go.
[09:20] <radar1976> whew...
[09:21] <illriginal> lol
[09:21] <illriginal> cafeugo
[09:21] <radar1976> !paste -> JDski
[09:21] <illriginal> as soon as i open it...
[09:21] <illriginal> it shuts down.
[09:21] <illriginal> it doesn't give me time to open anything.
[09:21] <JDski> i'm not pasting
[09:21] <cafuego_> illriginal: First, run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure java'
[09:21] <illriginal> ok
[09:21] <Kaso> I think that i've killed my ubuntu, i was having problem running simple programs like sudo and vim, it was saying binary could not execute or something along those lines, so i restarted my PC, and now it appears my GRUB has been re-written to have kernals 2.6.17-11 and 2.6.17-10 (and not my windows) and when trying to boot either kernals, the boot hangs, with the following errors: http://www.pastey.net/6470
[09:21] <radar1976> uhh then what areyou doing?
[09:21] <JDski> just want to hang out =)
[09:21] <cafuego_> radar1976: Typing very fast and accurate.
[09:21] <illriginal> Package `java' is not installed and no info is available.
[09:21] <illriginal> Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
[09:21] <illriginal> and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
[09:21] <illriginal> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: java is not installed
[09:21] <illriginal> illriginal@illriginal:~$
[09:22] <radar1976> very interesting way to 'hang out'
[09:22] <cafuego_> jdr: yay!
[09:22] <radar1976> lol cafuego
[09:22] <radar1976> two lines max people,  anything else, use pastebin
[09:22] <illriginal> Madpilot... you have a problem?
[09:22] <jdr> yay? goog morning :)
[09:22] <Ian-C> Nothing in the man pages on Gnomeradio.
[09:22] <Ian-C> Shouldn't a script to start it be as simple as:
[09:22] <Ian-C> #!/bin/sh
[09:22] <Ian-C> /usr/bin/gnomeradio
[09:23] <illriginal>  -.- i just installed SUn 6
[09:23] <radar1976> whats sun 6
[09:23] <frogzoo> Ian-C: /usr/bin/gnomeradio & 2>/dev/null
[09:23] <radar1976> oh crap... HD failure
[09:23] <Madpilot> illriginal, do not ever paste more than two lines to this channel. Didn't you notice Mr. flooder a moment ago?
[09:23] <mojo> illriginal: so you don't have any java runtime environment installed?  you need one, as azureus is a java application.  How you starting azureus?  from the command line?
[09:23] <JDski> i've a box with two NIC's installed and after a reboot the system always goes to the NIC that isn't used
[09:23] <Madpilot> ubotu, paste | Ian-C
[09:23] <ubotu> Ian-C: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:23] <billybob> mojo: have yo uchecked the vlc log ifle for errors ?
[09:23] <ardchoille> frogzoo: What is the "& 2>/dev/null" for?
[09:23] <illriginal> madpilot he flooded with over 20 lines..
[09:24] <mojo> billybob: no, but good point
[09:24] <illriginal> mojo i just installed the lastest one.
[09:24] <JDski> how do i change the default nic?
[09:24] <frogzoo> ardchoille: & - run in background, 2> /dev/null - pipe stderr to devnull
[09:24] <mojo> illriginal: are you running azureus from an icon or menu entry, or from a command line?
[09:24] <illriginal> icon
[09:24] <cafuego_> illriginal: Sorry, the actual command is 'sudo update-alternatives --config java'
[09:24] <Poseiden> I'd like to move a server, currently running Debian etch, to dapper.  Is there a howto or something that I've not yet found that will help avoid the nasty package version collisions and deps problems?
[09:24] <mojo> illriginal: try it from a command line, you may get usefull feedback
[09:24] <ardchoille> frogzoo: Ah, ok. Thanks
[09:24] <radar1976> JDski, edit the /etc/network scripts
[09:24] <JDski> ty radar1976
[09:24] <branden> is there a .deb or .rpm for cinerella?
[09:24] <radar1976> change the eth0 for eth1 and eth1 for eth0
[09:25] <fiberchunks> or just disable the unused adapter in the bios
[09:25] <snail> Ian-C: it _might_ be
[09:25] <mojo> try /opt/azureus/azureus at a command line and see what output you get
[09:25] <radar1976> JDski, does that help
[09:25] <JDski> changing over to the box
[09:25] <illriginal>  1    /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.1 *+        2    /usr/lib/j2se/1.4/bin/java          3    /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java
[09:25] <mojo> cafuego_: update-alternatives... that is the one i could not remember to tell him about
[09:26] <youkilldkennedy> Anyone have some useful tips on how to get my nVidia Mobile card working?
[09:26] <snail> Ian-C: you don't want to pipe the output to /dev/null until you have it working
[09:26] <cafuego_> illriginal: Ok, pick the gij wrapper
[09:26] <illriginal> that's the correct one?...
[09:26] <illriginal> not the latest java6sun?
[09:26] <illriginal> Using `/usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.1' to provide `java'.
[09:27] <JDski> auto eth0 to eth1, eh?
[09:27] <cafuego_> illriginal: Now start azureus
[09:27] <fiberchunks> youkilldkennedy, using nv or nvidia driver?
[09:27] <miniman> Hello
[09:27] <illriginal> ok im gonna start it from the icon.
[09:27] <JDski> hiya miniman
[09:27] <JDski> rebooting the box to check
[09:27] <miniman> I mounted a filesystem, and only root can access it, and chmodding or chown isnt permitted, it says "changing permissions of read only file system". How can I make it so all users can access it?
[09:27] <youkilldkennedy> fiberchunks: sorry, I'm not sure? I installed Ubuntu just a minute ago.
[09:27] <illriginal> wow
[09:27] <illriginal> that worked
[09:28] <snail> miniman: is it a fat partition?
[09:28] <fiberchunks> do you have a desktop, or just a terminal?
[09:28] <youkilldkennedy> And it's not working.
[09:28] <mojo> illriginal: latest & "greatest" or not, it is possible that Azureus doesn't like it.   Now quit azureus and rerun the update-alternatives command. Pick the sun-6 one
[09:28] <snail> miniman: you need to umount and then mount with the right options
[09:28] <fiberchunks> youkilldkennedy, sorry, I meant, do you have gnome / kde, or just a terminal
[09:28] <illriginal> ok cafe
[09:28] <youkilldkennedy> GNOME
[09:28] <snail> miniman: i forget them, but the man page for mount will have them
[09:28] <fiberchunks> then why isn't it working?
[09:29] <fiberchunks> as in, if you have a desktop environment, how is it _not_ working?
[09:29] <illriginal> ok i picked the sun 6
[09:29] <illriginal> open azureus?
[09:29] <snail> youkilldkennedy: the real solution is to get some hardware from a vendor that supports ubuntu
[09:29] <oggy> helllo
[09:29] <youkilldkennedy> Hmm
[09:29] <fiberchunks> snail, which leaves, what, matrox? ;)
[09:30] <snail> oggy: hi
[09:30] <cafuego_> illriginal: yup
[09:30] <illriginal> cafeugo, open azureus after i pick sun 6?
[09:30] <oggy> heya
[09:30] <illriginal> ok
[09:30] <youkilldkennedy> The game I tried to play a freeware game and the fps was too low.
[09:30] <fiberchunks> ahhhh
[09:30] <oggy> i used the beryl script to install beryl in ubuntu
[09:30] <cafuego_> illriginal: and it'll magically work.
[09:30] <illriginal> yes it's workin now :P
[09:30] <youkilldkennedy> Needed some commas there, but yeah.
[09:30] <illriginal> wooohooo
[09:30] <cafuego_> illriginal: Each time azureus crashes, you need to repeat these steps./
[09:30] <fiberchunks> youkilldkennedy, you need the binary driver for nvidia, it's probably using nv right now (the open version)
[09:30] <illriginal> thanks a lot mojo and especially cafeugo :D
[09:30] <billybob> mojo: there is somethign i just noticed abotu Samba i dont like, copying files from one directory, to another, even if on the same disk, STILL uses the network, thats pretty lame IMO
[09:30] <oggy> can anyone direct me to the correct script for a beryl install
[09:31] <illriginal> understood cafuego
[09:31] <crazy_penguin> Good morning!
[09:31] <illriginal> thanks very much.
[09:31] <billybob> nice netsplit.
[09:31] <JDski> indeed
[09:31] <Poseiden> I'd like to move a server, currently running Debian etch, to dapper.  Is there a howto or something that I've not yet found that will help avoid the nasty package version collisions and deps problems?
[09:31] <chalcedony> loverly
[09:31] <youkilldkennedy> fiberchunks: Can the binary version be installed VIA Snyaptic Package Manager?
[09:31] <mojo> fun stuff
[09:31] <oggy> does anyone have a url to the bery script installer
[09:31] <cafuego_> Poseiden: Yes. Back up, install fresh.
[09:31] <oggy> ?
[09:31] <mojo> time to mute join/parts
[09:32] <snail> Poseiden: do you have much customistion on the server?
[09:32] <fiberchunks> I believe that it can, but I always compile mine, so I'll defer to someone more knowledgable about that
[09:32] <billybob> mojo: dial up ?
[09:32] <JDski> maybe change etch to dapper in the sources.list file?
[09:32] <Poseiden> cafuego: mrm.  That about it?  No fancy schmancy way to delete the package db or deps information?
[09:32] <mojo> billybob: no, cable internet
[09:32] <JDski> then apt-get clean
[09:32] <JDski> wb all
[09:32] <frogzoo> !beryl | oggy
[09:32] <ubotu> oggy: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:32] <snail> Poseiden: if you want long term stability then I suggest a proper install
[09:32] <billybob> god, that was annoying
[09:32] <Poseiden> snail: a fair bit.  Not so much customization as configuration (except of exim).
[09:33] <JDski> i know doing that works for upgrading, dont know about downgrading though
[09:33] <frogzoo> oggy: you don't need a script, just follow that url from ubotu ^^
[09:33] <cafuego_> Poseiden: None that won't lead to a world of pain. AT leasts ave installed pkg info with 'dpkg --get-selections' and back up /etc.... but a downgrade? No, pain...
[09:33] <Kaso> I think that i've killed my ubuntu, i was having problem running simple programs like sudo and vim, it was saying binary could not execute or something along those lines, so i restarted my PC, and now it appears my GRUB has been re-written to have kernals 2.6.17-11 and 2.6.17-10 (and not my windows) and when trying to boot either kernals, the boot hangs, with the following errors: http://www.pastey.net/6470 I wonder if anyone has an idea where i s
[09:33] <oggy> k thanks
[09:33] <JDski> Poseiden: i had someone walk thru beryl install... didnt know there was a script for it
[09:33] <Poseiden> JDski: this is more of a "cross-grading".  Most of the packages in etch are the same versions as dapper.
[09:34] <billybob> Kaso: reboot, hit esc, and select the old kernel ?
[09:34] <youkilldkennedy> fiberchunks: Thanks for your help.
[09:34] <frogzoo> !grubb | Kaso
[09:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grubb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:34] <frogzoo> !grub | Kaso
[09:34] <ubotu> Kaso: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:34] <fiberchunks> youkilldkennedy, np, sorry I don't know more about installing with a pkg mgr :\
[09:34] <frogzoo> Kaso: follow the recovering after windows link
[09:34] <youkilldkennedy> fiberchunks: Alls good. I found it.
[09:34] <fiberchunks> cool
[09:34] <youkilldkennedy> fiberchunks: Hopefully it works.
[09:35] <fiberchunks> indeed :)
[09:35] <jmspeex> Can anyone give me a hand getting the synaptics driver to work?
[09:35] <JosefK> has anyone had Ubuntu Server 6.10 running on a PowerEdge 1900?
[09:35] <Poseiden> cafuego: well, thought it was worth a shot.  I'll just stich with etch for now, until there is a new LTS version.
[09:35] <Kaso> grub isnt the problem, the -10 kernel in it is exactly the same as i had pre-problems and it still dies on bootup
[09:35] <JDski> Poseiden: not sure if you've tried it yet but, feisty isnt too bad
[09:35] <yasi8h> hello there, i just switched to ubuntu from xp and i want to get all the bookmarks that i had on mozilla in xp to mozilla in ubuntu... is this possible?
[09:35] <Poseiden> JDski: I like it on my desktop systems.  I'm nervous about it on a server.
[09:35] <JDski> ah
[09:36] <fiberchunks> yasi8h, did you blow away windows when you changed over?
[09:36] <snail> yasi8h: sure, just copy them across
[09:36] <jmspeex> Depending on the config I use, I either get a (sort of) usable mouse, but not any of the synaptics stuff, or else the synaptics stuff (e.g. config tools) work, but I get no mouse movement.
[09:36] <JDski> yasi8h: you could try exporting your bookmark file and mailing it to yourself
[09:36] <JDski> i've done that quite a bit
[09:36] <miniman> k, I tried mounting it with -w, but it still doesn't work..only root can access it.
[09:36] <JDski> if you didnt wipe your xp yet
[09:36] <yasi8h> copy what file? to what file
[09:36] <yasi8h> no i have xp with me
[09:36] <yasi8h> its a dule boot system now
[09:37] <mojo> yasi8h: aren't they in a file called bookmarks.html in your profile?  you should be able to copy that file over
[09:37] <JDski> Poseiden: i've been using it on server
[09:37] <yasi8h> ok
[09:37] <yasi8h> i'll check that out
[09:37] <JDski> seems to be fine
[09:37] <billybob> they are
[09:37] <billybob> mojo: using FF, im used to backing up my bookmarks ;)
[09:37] <JDski> i mainly use my system as a LDS though,
[09:37] <billybob> FF likes to lose its brain once in a while
[09:38] <Poseiden> JDski: My concern is that the new major versions of some of my key software have totally different conf files.  So I won't want to upgrade a live box until I have time to fix the errors that will inevitably crop up.
[09:38] <JDski> ahh
[09:38] <JDski> good point m8
[09:39] <Poseiden> JDski: LDS?  That's Local Dive Shop to me.
[09:39] <JDski> lol
[09:39] <JDski> =) Local Development System
[09:39] <JDski> system/server
[09:39] <yasi8h> where do firefox store the profiles/bookmarks in xp?
[09:39] <Poseiden> JDski: Ah, right. :)  This one is internet connected, so I'll want to keep a bit more of an eye on it.
[09:39] <billybob> Yancho: user directory
[09:39] <yasi8h> i can find the bookmarks folder in ubuntu but not in xp
[09:39] <billybob> yasi8h: user directoy
[09:40] <Muzik83> yasi8h: Docs and Settings/Username/Mozilla/Firefox/<some crazy letters>/bookmarks.html
[09:40] <Poseiden> yasi8h: If I had to guess (and I do, since I don't know), c:\documents and settings\<username>\Application Data\....\bookmarks.html
[09:40] <yasi8h> ok
[09:40] <Muzik83> bah poseiden has it right
[09:40] <yasi8h> i'll check the path
[09:40] <Muzik83> forgot the Application Data
[09:40] <tehsu> anyone here actually get windows mobile connected to there phone to sync
[09:40] <oggy> eh
[09:40] <billybob> yasi8h: just export the bookmarks for bookmark management
[09:40] <billybob> from*
[09:41] <yasi8h> ok
[09:41] <oggy> I dont see an install for beryl how to
[09:41] <oggy> ?
[09:41] <oggy> on that link
[09:41] <acojlo> " /username / application data / mozila / ... / bookmarks.html "
[09:41] <yasi8h> ok i think its there
[09:41] <billybob> yasi8h: bookmarks -> organize bookmarks -> file ->export
[09:41] <qch> Hey, I have a Realtek ALC883 sound card, and every time in the GNOME mixer, I see OSS Mixer is being used ! How can I get Alsa mixer to appear ?
[09:42] <yasi8h> ok
[09:42] <miniman> I need to mount /dev/hda1 so that ALL users can  access it, but only root can..Anyone know how to resolve this?
[09:42] <acojlo> well, chmod or change group in /etc/fstab
[09:42] <oggy> does anyone have a script for installing beryl on ubuntu
[09:42] <oggy> 64bit
[09:42] <JDski> chmod would be easier
[09:42] <oggy> that works
[09:42] <mojo> miniman: all can access the entry under /dev or just the mountpoint?
[09:42] <oggy> =)
[09:43] <miniman> mojo: so they can all access the filesystem once its mounted
[09:43] <billybob> oggy: nvidia has one
[09:43] <Poseiden> miniman: is hda1 a windows partition?
[09:43] <miniman> yes
[09:43] <miniman> windows
[09:43] <JDski> chown
[09:43] <miniman> doesnt work
[09:43] <mojo> oggy: there is a deb package, that is how i installed it
[09:43] <Poseiden> miniman: you need to set the mount option users, if memory serves.
[09:43] <miniman> I tried that.
[09:43] <mojo> oggy... i added a repository... 1sec...
[09:43] <miniman> i did this:
[09:43] <oggy> ah
[09:44] <JDski> been nice chatting with y'all... again, sorry about the flood earlier and thanks for the pastebin tip
[09:44] <miniman> mount -o users,rw /dev/hda1 /home/sam/windows
[09:44] <JDski> y'all have a good one
[09:44] <Poseiden> miniman: and no luck?
[09:44] <miniman> nope
[09:44] <acojlo> miniman "chmod XYZ folder_name" X can be 4, 2, 1 or 6 or 7
[09:44] <Poseiden> JDski: cheers
[09:44] <miniman> acojlo: it wont let me chmod it
[09:44] <acojlo> well, try it as root
[09:44] <JDski> ty Poseiden
[09:44] <miniman> i did
[09:44] <miniman> wont let me
[09:44] <JDski> and ty radar1976
[09:45] <miniman> "changing permission of read only file system"
[09:45] <youkilldkennedy> I'm trying to use the Network Connection program that installed with Ubuntu, but when I click 'Configure' for a Network, it tells me I do not have permission.
[09:45] <Poseiden> miniman: did it give you any error messages or feedback?
[09:45] <JDski> =)
[09:45] <miniman> "changing permission of read only file system"
[09:45] <Poseiden> miniman: I meant when you did the mount.
[09:45] <miniman> no
[09:45] <miniman> no errros
[09:45] <acojlo> miniman - well, you can not put "write" bit to that folder
[09:45] <miniman> that doesnt matter
[09:45] <yasi8h> hey thanks everybody i exported everything from xp to ubuntu...
[09:45] <Ian-C> Frogzoo:  If I run the script from the terminal, it starts up Gnomeradio and does the record.  If I run it as a cron job it doesn't start the radio, but still does the record.  Any suggestions?
[09:45] <miniman> i just want all users to be able to access it
[09:45] <Poseiden> miniman: Okay.  Just for giggles: mount -o rw,remount,users /dev/hda1 /home/sam/windows
[09:46] <miniman> k
[09:46] <whazilla> i got a problem with my network shares on linux ... i must chown them to the network user in order to download em on another pc ?
[09:46] <JDski> argh
[09:46] <billybob> whazilla: what do you mean ?
[09:47] <whazilla> i mean acces denied
[09:47] <billybob> ok what protocol ?
[09:47] <billybob> samba ?
[09:47] <whazilla> samba
[09:47] <billybob> did you add a user to samba ?
[09:47] <whazilla> nouser
[09:47] <whazilla> nogroup
[09:47] <tomek_> I've got the problem installing ubuntu on G3 iMac - I get kernel panic when starting
[09:48] <billybob> whazilla: are you saying you did, or didnt ?
[09:48] <Poseiden> miniman: any love?
[09:48] <whazilla> im saying i did itso no login is recquired
[09:48] <yommb> Hi , I have a question about aptitude !
[09:48] <miniman> nope
[09:48] <whazilla> so no ?
[09:48] <Poseiden> miniman: if not, try this: mount -o rw,remount,users,umask=0000 /dev/hda1 /home/sam/windows
[09:49] <yommb> I would like to set up a local folder as an apt-source ! Could anyone point me in the right direction, please !
[09:49] <frogzoo> Ian-C: never tried running an X app from cron, maybe setting 'export DISPLAY=:0.0" ?
[09:49] <billybob> whazilla: ok, so you also enabled guest account for Samba ?
[09:49] <whazilla> billybob must u see my public smb.conf ?
[09:49] <whazilla> cuz it aint guest
[09:49] <billybob> pastie yes :)
[09:49] <whazilla> its nouser, nogroup
[09:50] <whazilla> wher do i find that file again ?
[09:50] <billybob> !paste
[09:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:50] <Poseiden> yommb: deb file:/<path>/<to>/<repository>/
[09:50] <dougb> is anyone in here using feisty?
[09:50] <Poseiden> dougb: sometimes
[09:50] <dougb> how is it?
[09:50] <dougb> i'm installing it right now
[09:50] <whazilla> i mean the smb.conf ... wher is it located again ?
[09:50] <yommb> Poseidon : that's it ?
[09:50] <oggy> the nvidia script on wiki does that work for a beryl install It worked before but now its not working
[09:50] <Poseiden> dougb: I've enjoyed it on my laptop.
[09:50] <yommb> wow
[09:51] <tomek_> is there anyone with some Mac knowledge?
[09:51] <billybob> '/etc/samba/smb.conf'
[09:51] <whazilla> thkx
[09:51] <oggy> i mean does it have the correct repositories
[09:51] <dougb> Poseiden: i was reading on ubuntuforums that for the most part, it's very stable
[09:51] <Poseiden> yommb: more or less.  Put that in your sources.list, along with a list of the stuff living in there.
[09:51] <yommb> ok ; thx !
[09:51] <Poseiden> dougb: I didn't have any _stability_ trouble.  The problems I had are related to lack of hardware support, for which Ubuntu can't be blamed (stupid D-Link).
[09:52] <Poseiden> yommb: np.
[09:52] <dougb> ahh i see
[09:52] <whazilla> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5379/
[09:52] <dougb> does ndiswrapper come by default?
[09:52] <oggy> well im gonna try the script again
[09:52] <oggy> for the twentieth time
[09:52] <dougb> i know it's using the 2.6.20 kernel, so i wasn't sure if they compiled it
[09:52] <Ian--C> I'm back again - in an IRC client with which I'm more comfortable
[09:52] <Poseiden> dougb: You know, I don't know the answer to that.  I think so, but I'm not sure.
[09:53] <dougb> as long as it has linux headers, i can compile it myself
[09:53] <billybob> whazilla: what are you trying to achieve here?
[09:53] <billybob> whazilla: specifics
[09:53] <Poseiden> dougb: I'm going to guess that it has it, because the install really aims to be as universally useful as it can.
[09:53] <whazilla> public dump and public public dirs
[09:53] <billybob> be specific
[09:53] <billybob> you want anonymous access ?
[09:53] <dougb> Poseiden: distrowatch says the snapshot(herd 3) comes with 1.3
[09:53] <dougb> works for me :)
[09:53] <whazilla> dump == working write acces thats okey
[09:53] <whazilla> public == only newer files are accesible
[09:54] <whazilla> the ones i put ther via usb arent accesiable over network
[09:54] <whazilla> acces denied
[09:54] <Poseiden> dougb: So there's that.  Does your card work under ndisdriver?
[09:54] <fiberchunks> anyone in here have the problem with the installer not recognizing the cdrom drive after the kernel loads?  If so, any solutions (besides usb boot, netboot, changing cables, etc)
[09:54] <pihus> Is there a way to disable the animation that is shown when one runs an application from the dock?
[09:54] <dougb> it does
[09:54] <fiberchunks> i.e. is there a way to load modules in ubuntu at boot time?
[09:54] <dougb> i'm stuck with a broadcom :( but thankfully it works with ndiswrapper
[09:55] <Poseiden> dougb: I heart my broadcom.  But it isn't wireless, so there's that.
[09:55] <billybob> whazilla: why specificaly did you choose the user and group 'nobody/nogroup' ?
[09:55] <whazilla> yes it works with nogroup nouser ... so anonymous
[09:55] <whazilla> cuz that was from a tut
[09:55] <whazilla> for anonymous
[09:55] <Poseiden> dougb: Funky stuff, though.  I have an Intel ipw2200.  It'll work just fine... but wpa_supplicant in feisty will *not* run on the card.
[09:56] <Poseiden> dougb: And, unfortunately, my cardbus alternative is this D-Link pre-N thingy that has no support whatsoever.
[09:56] <Ian--C> So as I said, if I run the script from a terminal Gnomeradio starts, and the next line does the record.  If I run it as a cronjob, the radio doesn't start, but the record still works.  Any suggestions?
[09:56] <billybob> whazilla: wll you need to do somethign different, i beleive that locks down access to that share to nobody, and no group
[09:56] <Poseiden> Ian--C: Cronjob is running as the same user?
[09:56] <dougb> Poseiden: have you tried the ndiswrapper? i know not many people are fond of using it, since you need windows drivers, but it works
[09:56] <billybob> whazilla: i take it your box already has an admin user ?
[09:56] <Poseiden> dougb: Frankly, I was far too lazy.  I may yet give it a shot.
[09:56] <whazilla> so chown -R nouser:nogroup /home/public ?
[09:57] <whazilla> im admin ?
[09:57] <billybob> whazilla: you dont want to do that
[09:57] <LinTux> is it worth running any anti virus at all as I need to scan email only
[09:57] <whazilla> no ? k
[09:57] <lolman> I always hated ndiswrapper, luckily I have an ethernet connection on my Linux box now
[09:57] <dougb> Poseiden: it's worth it.  It's actually faster to install the drivers in ubuntu with it than it is under windows lol
[09:57] <billybob> whazilla: the user you made when you installed
[09:57] <billybob> whazilla: dont say it, thats the admin
[09:57] <dougb> i hate networkmanager with a passion though, i can't believe that gnome is sticking with that
[09:57] <Poseiden> LinTux: Are you sending the email to windows users?
[09:58] <billybob> whazilla: here is what you can do, you can make a new user group, and add your admin user to that group
[09:58] <Poseiden> dougb: networkmanager doth stinketh.  ifupdown works a treat.
[09:58] <youkilldkennedy> Network manager won't let me configure my connections... anyone suggest a better alternative?
[09:58] <LinTux> Poseidon: unfortunately YES at times
[09:58] <dougb> youkilldkennedy: wifi-radar is great
[09:58] <yommb> Lintux : considering the heaps of spam & virusses these days , I'd take a safe bet if you mail a lot
[09:58] <Poseiden> LinTux: you won't pay much, in the way of decreased performance, and it's a nice gesture.
[09:59] <LinTux> any recommendations then
[09:59] <billybob> whazilla: then you add the user to samba via smbpasswd
[09:59] <Schnickfitzel> i like bananas
[09:59] <Poseiden> LinTux: clamav is free, which is nice.
[09:59] <Schnickfitzel> :)))))))))))))
[09:59] <yommb> yes , we choose NOT to infect our windoze brethren :)
[09:59] <LinTux> Poseiden: Cheers m8
[09:59] <billybob> whazilla: then you chown -R root:usergroup /home/directory
[09:59] <Ian--C> I believe so  "crontab -l" in a terminal as that user lists that job, so that means it is for that user, right?
[09:59] <Poseiden> LinTux: cheers then.
[09:59] <yommb> clamav mb , thought it didnt do RAR3 when i last used it
[10:00] <billybob> whazilla: then chmod directory accordingly
[10:00] <Schnickfitzel> will i get muscles if i eat many bananas?
[10:00] <Poseiden> Ian--C: Yup.
[10:00] <billybob> whazill: still with me ?
[10:00] <Poseiden> Ian--C: Do you get any email sent to that user?  It's possible that there is an error, and the output of stderr is getting mailed.
[10:01] <whazilla> billybob thats a no can do as my anonymous accces will be lost
[10:01] <yommb> lol fitzel
[10:01] <billybob> whazilla: anyhoo, want me to pastie a quick fix ?
[10:01] <whazilla> but thkx anywayz
[10:01] <whazilla> if u wish ;)
[10:01] <dougb> NetworkManager seriously needs to have DNS and Static IP support
[10:01] <billybob> whazilla: then you use guest ok = yes
[10:02] <billybob> and setup anonymous acess under global
[10:02] <billybob> i stil lthink anonymous access isnt a good idea, but hey, whatever you want :)
[10:02] <Poseiden> dougb: and a new stylist.  That outfit is a disaster!
[10:03] <yommb> almost as bad as share acces :)
[10:03] <dougb> yeah it is pretty bad
[10:04] <dougb> i just don't get how gnome could overlook the little fact that it doesn't support customization that probably more than half of it's users need
[10:04] <Poseiden> I wonder if wap/wifi is the only thing b0rkn on my lappie install.  I should get that working and look around a bit.  Oh!  I know - ACPI is not working perfectly.
[10:04] <ardchoille> dougb: Such as?
[10:04] <dougb> DNS and static IP support
[10:05] <Ian--C> I had it set with the No Output option set, so no email would be sent, right?  And to be honest, I don't know where I'd even check for that email on the same system.  Nothing in the system logs though
[10:05] <dougb> i have to connect to windows domains at work, but at home its all dynamic
[10:05] <youkilldkennedy> wap/wifi refuses to work for me...
[10:05] <Poseiden> dougb: There are a number of excellent reasons that I pitch gnome out the window.  That didn't make the list, but it does now.
[10:05] <dougb> I honestly like the default gnome network manager.  you can set up profiles, do static IP's, DNS and tons of other stuff
[10:05] <Poseiden> Ian--C: Okay.  It probably wouldn't hit the logs, but no worries.  Find a pastebin and show me exactly what the cronjob is doing.
[10:05] <ardchoille> dougb: I've installed gnome on 11 machines in this house and I have never need to do more than open firefox and start surfing.
[10:05] <ardchoille> The network is always auto configured
[10:06] <dougb> ardchoille: you are lucky lol
[10:06] <Poseiden> ardchoille: wired network connections?
[10:06] <Ian--C> Script is:
[10:06] <rammsteined> whats xfce like?
[10:06] <Poseiden> rammsteined: very simple.
[10:06] <dougb> xfce is awesome
[10:06] <ardchoille> dougb: Well, I build my own computers, never buy one off the shelf, so I put in the components I want. that may be the difference.
[10:06] <Poseiden> rammsteined: elegant, event.
[10:06] <ardchoille> Poseiden: Yes
[10:06] <Poseiden> s/event/even/
[10:07] <rammsteined> can it be customized much?
[10:07] <whazilla> billybob:  i thank u for ur scares that they might hack me or leech from me ... but i don really care atm cuz the share is acces denied when clickin on a file atm
[10:07] <whazilla> its a really strange setup
[10:07] <Poseiden> ardchoille: Mmm... it has a lot of success with wired networks/DHCP.  Other arrangements can be more difficult to configure.
[10:07] <dougb> ardchoille: the components of the computer has nothing to do with how the networking is set up.  it's that the network is configured to need a static IP and all of the extra stuff
[10:07] <Poseiden> rammsteined: yup.
[10:07] <rammsteined> cool
[10:07] <ardchoille> Poseiden: dougb: ah, ok, that explains it.
[10:08] <Ian--C> Script is:
[10:08] <dougb> yeah
[10:08] <billybob> whazilla: try this -> http://www.phptr.com/articles/article.asp?p=328802&rl=1
[10:08] <Poseiden> Ian--C: that is the shortest script in history.  How can you tell it isn't working?
[10:08] <dougb> if i knew I was going to disown Windows a few months after purchasing a new laptop, I would have bought one that was....a little more linux friendly
[10:08] <BigToe> How do I partition a disk so I can install windows? I already have an ubuntu CD to fix GRUB when windows installs...
[10:08] <mojo> wow my freenode server just went to lonch 4 a minute there
[10:09] <youkilldkennedy> dougb/poseiden: Perhaps either of you could help me. I set up my wireless network, and to do so I had to strip any WEP or WPA, however, the network never remains for long, it goes on and off. Any ideas?
[10:09] <Poseiden> youkilldkennedy: Are you converting to Ubuntu from another OS?
[10:09] <youkilldkennedy> Poseiden: Yes, Windows XP ::shudder::
[10:10] <Poseiden> youkilldkennedy: Did your wireless performance vary quite a bit under XP, or was it always very stable?
[10:10] <youkilldkennedy> Poseiden: Stable as a rock.
[10:10] <Poseiden> youkilldkennedy: What is the wireless card?
[10:10] <clearzen> How do you change the top and bottom images for the cube in beryl??
[10:10] <Ian--C> Sorry - thought I had a multi-line edit box enabled - but I didn't - working on a cut and paste
[10:11] <youkilldkennedy> Poseiden: My Router is right next to me, acctually. Intel 9435ABG
[10:11] <Poseiden> Ian--C: cheers
[10:11] <ben16s> Hi
[10:11] <ben16s> Anyone can help me with an ubuntu server problem
[10:11] <ben16s> with ssh and x11 forwarding
[10:11] <youkilldkennedy> Poseiden: The connecting and disconnecting is almost rhythmatic.
[10:11] <Poseiden> youkilldkennedy: I seem to remember that the 9435ABG is a "win-wifi" card.  It needs firmware to be supplied.  I believe there is an ubuntu package that does this.  Do you know if you have that package installed?
[10:11] <whazilla> thkx billybob
[10:12] <clearzen> ben16s:If it is a server install it won't have X11
[10:12] <mojo> i quit??
[10:12] <mojo> lol
[10:12] <youkilldkennedy> Poseiden: I doubt that I do. I tried once, but never got very far...
[10:12] <Poseiden> mojo: looked like it from here.
[10:12] <Poseiden> youkilldkennedy: that might be part of the problem.
[10:13] <ben16s> clearzen : ssh and putty x11 forwarding can't work on an ubuntu server??
[10:13] <youkilldkennedy> Poseiden: Do you know where a repository that installs it for me can be found? Or is there 'no cigar' in that department?
[10:13] <clearzen> ben16s: Well a true server install won't have the xorg packages for a desktop
[10:14] <clearzen> ben16s: Servers don't use x11 because there is not a gui
[10:14] <billybob> mojo: hey, how could i get all files with a certain extension on a single HDD, and put them into one folder ?
[10:14] <Poseiden> youkilldkennedy: I believe it is in any default repository.  I believe the package is called something clever, like firmware-ipw3945ABG or somesuch.
[10:14] <entotre> I have a AMD Turion 64 cpu, should I download the amd64 dvd ?
[10:14] <clearzen> ben16s: But you can always add it with something like
[10:14] <clearzen> aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[10:14] <billybob> mojo: me thinks perhaps a script is needed but .  ..
[10:15] <Poseiden> billybob: find / -name \*.<extension> -exec mv \{\} /my/new/folder/ \;
[10:15] <Poseiden> billybob: it'll be a bit slow.
[10:15] <youkilldkennedy> Poseiden: Very clever indeed.
[10:15] <ben16s> clearzen : yes but on my windows machine i've got Xming
[10:15] <billybob> Poseiden: what about overwrites ?
[10:15] <Ian--C> Script is:
[10:15] <Ian--C> #!/sh/bin
[10:15] <Ian--C> # Record Radio Word of the Day
[10:15] <Ian--C> gnomeradio
[10:15] <Ian--C> arecord -f cd 100 -t raw | lame -x - WorkWord-'date +%Y_%m_%d-%H:%M'.mp3
[10:15] <clearzen> ben16s: It wasts resources to run a gui on a server though
[10:15] <Poseiden> billybob: it's just going to execute 'mv', so it won't generally clobber.  You can force it to, if you like.
[10:16] <ben16s> clearzen : that's why i want to esxport it
[10:16] <clearzen> ben16s: Use nomachine instead of putty for X11 forwarding
[10:16] <billybob> Poseiden: ok more specifically, how about retaining directory structure ?
[10:16] <BigToe> How do I partition a disk so I can install windows? I already have an ubuntu CD to fix GRUB when windows installs...
[10:16] <clearzen> ben16s: It has always worked better for me anyway
[10:16] <Poseiden> billybob: mmm... bit tougher.
[10:16] <ben16s> clearzen : ok i will try
[10:16] <mojo> yeah.. the find command is a good place to start
[10:16] <billybob> Poseiden: yeah a few lines of code me thinks
[10:17] <billybob> Poseiden: however, since im backing up anotehr drive,  and both still have the importatn files, il give you method a try, and see how i like it :)
[10:17] <ben16s> clearzen : because with ssh i've got the error message : can't open display
[10:17] <ben16s> clearzen : when i launch an xclock app for example
[10:17] <clearzen> ben16s:http://www.nomachine.com/
[10:18] <Poseiden> billybob: I use something like that to, for instance, grab all of the iTunes downloads from user directories and move them into my central iTunes repository.
[10:18] <oggy> haha cool
[10:18] <oggy> beryl
[10:18] <DV8TioN> HOw easily are USB digital cameras and memory sticks used in Ubuntu?
[10:18] <oggy> I just peeled back a window
[10:18] <clearzen> ben16s: http://www.nomachine.com/download.php    for the download page
[10:18] <dougb> DV8TioN: they are detected instantly
[10:18] <oggy> thought i would never see that in windows
[10:18] <oggy> haha
[10:19] <Poseiden> billybob: I actually have a slightly slicker perlscript somewhere that does what you want - finds files with the particular extension and then recreates the directory structure under the target directory.
[10:19] <dougb> oggy: welcome to the good life :)
[10:19] <oggy> i just peeled back a window
[10:19] <Schnickfitzel> good joke
[10:19] <oggy> incredible
[10:19] <DV8TioN> dougb.... Thank you... I ordered my online CDs last week, and the waiting is killing me!
[10:19] <ben16s> clearzen : it's for nx server??
[10:19] <Poseiden> Ian--C: I'm afraid I know slightly less than nothing about those commands.  What does gnomeradio do?
[10:19] <Schnickfitzel> theres ot even ie for ubuntu
[10:20] <mojo> oggy: slick, no?
[10:20] <Poseiden> billybob: well, "slick" isn't quite right.  It's slow and cumbersome.  But it works.
[10:20] <oggy> it is awsome
[10:20] <clearzen> ben16s: no it is a client/server program for remote administration including x11, sound, and video forwarding
[10:20] <dougb> Poseiden: i've actually seen no decrease in performance while running beryl and aiglx
[10:20] <oggy> ive seen the cube desktop in action
[10:20] <billybob> Poseiden: well, lol it wouldnt matter if i went to sleep while it ran ;)
[10:21] <billybob> Poseiden: thanks for the one liner btw
[10:21] <oggy> but peeling back of the window
[10:21] <ben16s> clearzen : so it can work with an ubuntu srver even if X server is not installed on it
[10:21] <Ian--C> With a BT878 based TV tuner card in the system, it lets you use that as a radio tuner
[10:21] <BigToe> How do I use qtparted to resize my main partition?
[10:21] <Poseiden> dougb: I think you wanted to aim that elsewhere.
[10:21] <billybob> regex*
[10:21] <frogzoo> BigToe: use gparted, point & click
[10:21] <BigToe> it won't let me
[10:21] <billybob> only, because, i dont understand it fully
[10:21] <mojo> oggy... what you hold down to make the peel work?
[10:21] <frogzoo> BigToe: oh, for /, you'll need to boot of a live cd
[10:21] <BigToe> and the window it like 3x wider than my screen
[10:21] <Poseiden> billybob: lemme see if I can find my lil Perl gem.  If not, I'll write it again. :P
[10:21] <BigToe> oh
[10:21] <BigToe> ok
[10:21] <clearzen> ben16s: Yes. It is not limited to X11 forwarding.
[10:21] <BigToe> thanks
[10:21] <DV8TioN> billybob... is that reex before marriage?  hehehe
[10:21] <Poseiden> billybob: Oh, I know.  I've got it......
[10:21] <dougb> woops, i thought you were talking about beryl Poseiden haha
[10:22] <billybob> lol
[10:22] <billybob> regex :P
[10:22] <oggy> right click button hold it down then grab the corner of the window and drag it backwards
[10:22] <billybob> as in regular expression ;)
[10:22] <clearzen>  ben16s: Check out the documentation it should tell you how to do what you want with it
[10:22] <Poseiden> dougb: :)
[10:22] <ben16s> clearzen : ok i'll try, thanks
[10:22] <Poseiden> billybob: Where's the pastebin?
[10:22] <dougb> i can't wait to get back to ubuntu
[10:22] <Pie-rate> is there any way to change my cpu fan speed from ubuntu?
[10:23] <billybob> !paste
[10:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:23] <billybob> :)
[10:23] <dougb> foresightlinux is nice, but ubuntu is definatly unbeatable in my eyes
[10:23] <triceratops> My Edgy plays an endless loop of the gdm login sound and the gdmgreater login sound when a user logs in. Till now I always have to kill aplay and esd to stop this. Any idea how to solve this?
[10:23] <Schnickfitzel> debian is unbeatably
[10:23] <darweth> dougb: unbeatable for what?
[10:23] <dougb> ease of use for linux
[10:23] <oggy> sheeeh incredible , its a good day hehe
[10:23] <darweth> ah.  i would almost agree there.
[10:24] <dougb> and help through the community
[10:24] <oggy> now if I can only get macromedia flash working in firefox
[10:24] <oggy> hehe
[10:24] <oggy> =)
[10:24] <dougb> suse has a nice ease of use to it, but i believe that it's the community that stands out
[10:24] <darweth> but the other options i would use are based on ubuntu, so i guess they do not count.
[10:24] <Poseiden> billybob: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5381/
[10:24] <darweth> i plan on graduating to something else someday though.
[10:25] <dougb> darweth: if you like getting your hands dirty with an up and coming package system, foresightlinux is nice
[10:25] <Poseiden> billybob: You'll have to muck about a bit with it.  Obviously this is storing a bunch of information you don't need, etc.  You can just stuff the hierarchy into a hash.
[10:25] <Ian--C> Oggy - I got that working yesterday - just follow the instructions on the Adobe Flash download page (Adobe bought Macromedia)
[10:25] <darweth> ah.  i was looking at mainly zenwalk, arch, gentoo, or sourcemage.
[10:25] <billybob> Poseiden: thanks, i take it i need to chnge the drive params ?
[10:25] <chris____> darweth: if you really want to get dirty, go with Gentoo
[10:25] <Poseiden> Ian--C: so gnomeradio is the only part that doesn't work?  The second line fires?
[10:25] <dougb> well i'm done
[10:25] <DV8TioN> Toodeloos all
[10:25] <dougb> time to go put on feisty herd 3
[10:25] <oggy> eh the problem is Ian-c , is that im running 64bit Ubuntu
[10:25] <oggy> :(
[10:26] <Poseiden> billybob: erm... well, you'll see. ;)  This is for a pretty specific task.
[10:26] <oggy> and adobe hasnt made a 64bit plugin for firefox
[10:26] <dougb> oggy: automatix2...but you didn't hear it from me ;-)
[10:26] <Ian--C> Poseiden - Correct - the record to MP3 line works perfectly - Gnomeradio starts when I run the script in the terminal, but not as a cronjob
[10:27] <Poseiden> billybob: Easiest thing to do is make it recursive.
[10:27] <oggy> hmm lets see
[10:27] <oggy> automatix2
[10:27] <Poseiden> Ian--C: I'm guessing that gnomeradio is something that requires X.  The reason it is dying is because the cron process doesn't know what X display to use.
[10:27] <billybob> Poseiden: i saw that :P anyhow, perhaps i could rewrite, and offer you a 'universal method' i have no perl experience, but using this im sure i could use my programing experience to make somethign :)
[10:27] <Ian--C> Oggy - Sorry then - I'm no help
[10:28] <Poseiden> billybob: Oh, it's not too tough.  Lemme see if I can hack something together really quick.
[10:28] <billybob> Poseiden: for example, id ditch those while loops with a for each loop
[10:28] <oggy> Ian-C yes you are helpful
[10:28] <billybob> for each loops*
[10:28] <oggy> =)
[10:28] <oggy> thanks
[10:30] <Ian--C> Poseiden - that makes sence - it does display a GUI when it is run.  Is there a way to specify in the script (or to cron) what X window to run in?
[10:30] <xopher> oggy, if it's flashplayer you want for firefox, search the forums for nspluginwrapper, it works great for me
[10:30] <oggy>  hmm
[10:31] <Poseiden> Ian--C: yes, but it can't possibly be a general solution.  The X display will change from time to time, but the cron script will run whenever it feels the triggering event.
[10:31] <lolman> Right, bit of help needed...I've just installed Ubuntu onto a software RAID array (/dev/md0) and neither GRUB nor LILO will install
[10:31] <Cin> hey, after ugprading to edgy, I've got loads of python- packages that are held back. do I need some new edgy sources for them?
[10:31] <oggy> thanks xopher
[10:31] <fiberchunks> are people still having to use 32 bit swiftfox to get plugins working right on 64 bit platform?
[10:32] <xopher> fiberchunks, well that, and nspluginwrapper. There's no real fix yet. Only workarounds
[10:32] <youkilldkennedy> Poseiden: Sadly, installing the firmware (I could not even find one specifically for the 9435 only earlier models) did not help.
[10:32] <Tieden> actually no, but I know why. It's just a typo I made I think. I'll try to fix it and try again
[10:32] <billybob> Poseiden: eventually, i was wanting to write a script, to take pictures, and sort them into directories, by date taken, thats going to be a minor project . . .
[10:33] <billybob> Poseiden: id have to get a certain meta data lib, and learn how to use it
[10:34] <fiberchunks> xopher, thanks
[10:34] <youkilldkennedy> ::sigh::
[10:35] <TuxCrafte1> pci=routeirq what is the function of this boot option
[10:35] <oggy> brb
[10:36] <arnducky> Can anyone tell me where to find the MD5 checksums for the new Edgy *DVD* ISOs  (they don't appear to be on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes )
[10:36] <Poseiden> youkilldkennedy: Then I've got nothing.  Sorry.
[10:37] <youkilldkennedy> Poseiden: Thanks for your help.
[10:37] <arnducky> huh, everyone knows 'They' killed Kenn(ed)y
[10:38] <youkilldkennedy> Nuh-uh.
[10:38] <billybob> well, atleast everyone knows they killed kenny . . .
[10:38] <Schnickfitzel> the power of loooooove
[10:38] <youkilldkennedy> Aye, it was a AIM screenname...
[10:38] <youkilldkennedy> But many years ago it was too many letters.. so I dropped the 'e' :P
[10:39] <enyc> I have a  Urrm
[10:39] <enyc> I have question...
[10:40] <enyc> Haw do I disable automounting in ubuntu-dapper of ieee1394 device ?
[10:40] <TuxCrafte1> pci=routeirq what is the function of this boot option
[10:40] <enyc> I cant see any mention of pmount.disallow or anything
[10:40] <billybob> Poseiden: with this perl script, i only need to change the extension ?
[10:40] <enyc> im not sure how to switch this off neatly... or is it best to change gnome settings somewhere? etc.
[10:40] <Poseiden> billybob: umm... hold on just a sec.
[10:41] <eternalswd> I'm having a really strange problem.  I can't ls my /media directory, it hangs.  I can cd to any directory and there and ls those, but not /media Any ideas?
[10:41] <enyc> TuxCrafte1: I think that tells linux to setup the PCI-PIC irq routing itself... incase the BIOS has broken it or something...
[10:41] <ardchoille> !apache
[10:41] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[10:41] <TuxCrafte1> enyc and what does that mean
[10:41] <jhaig> eternalswd: Do you have any NFS mounts in /media?
[10:42] <Schnickfitzel> Whatcha gonna do with all that junk  All that junk inside that trunk.....   It seemed to stop after that
[10:42] <Poseiden> billybob: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5383/
[10:42] <enyc> TuxCrafte1: its not normally specified but it can be used to fix problem on some machines
[10:42] <Poseiden> billybob: completely untested, no idea if it will work, etc. etc. etc. #use <std_disclaimer.php>
[10:43] <TuxCrafte1> enyc: where can i find more info (trying to debug my system)
[10:43] <jhaig> eternalswd: Is sshfs a remote file syste?
[10:43] <Poseiden> billybob: FYI - I'm a lawyer, not a hacker, and I haven't Perl'd in years.  So use at your own risk.
[10:43] <oggy> k I have automatix2 installed but how is this going to get flash working in firefox
[10:43] <Captain_Redbeard> I'm having a fairly common issue it seems, whenever I use TV-out to display the desktop on my TV all I get is a Black & white picture, that is with SVIDEO, with Composite however, it shows nothing, just all black. does anyone know any solution to this?
[10:43] <oggy> i mean im in a 64bit
[10:43] <billybob> Poseiden: would just mean  me having to recopy the files
[10:43] <billybob> Poseiden: ok, usage ?
[10:43] <eternalswd> jhaig, yes, it mounts a connection to a directory on an ssh server
[10:44] <Poseiden> billybob: oh no.  It could mean much more than that. :P
[10:44] <billybob> Poseiden: ./perlscript <params> ?
[10:44] <mhiku> how do i extract iso without mounting it?
[10:44] <jhaig> eternalswd: Has that server been shut down?  I have had a similar problem with nfs and it was due to a server being down.
[10:44] <Poseiden> billybob: umm... cut and paste that into a file.  Make the file executable.  Edit the file and change a couple of things to make them more... hold on, I'll make it a bit more configurable.
[10:44] <youkilldkennedy> Captain_Redbeard: My S-Video to Composite won't even work :-(
[10:45] <Captain_Redbeard> youkilldkennedy: :/ So do you have any solution to this?
[10:45] <eternalswd> jhaig, no, I had unmounted it while the machine was still on.
[10:45] <jhaig> eternalswd: What does 'mount' say?  Does it say it is still mounted?
[10:45] <tuxcrafter> !debug
[10:45] <ubotu> For help debugging your program, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProcedures
[10:45] <oggy> am i looking to install swiftbox
[10:46] <oggy> ?
[10:46] <oggy> for flash
[10:46] <youkilldkennedy> Captain_Redbeard: I wish.
[10:46] <eternalswd> jhaig, no
[10:47] <jhaig> eternalswd: Well, I don't know.  The only reason I can think that it is hanging is that it still thinks that it is mounted.
[10:47] <Zaggynl> How do I stop the beeping when tabcompleting in a console, it's driving me nuts D:
[10:47] <billybob> Poseiden: yeah, well, im adventurous, if i have to reinstall, i have to reinstall . . . but fro what i can tell here, i shouldnt have much to worry about
[10:47] <fiberchunks> turn off the bell in one of the menus Zaggynl
[10:48] <billybob> ;)
[10:48] <fiberchunks> and then save that progile
[10:48] <fiberchunks> *profile
[10:48] <Zaggynl> fiberchunks, ehh, do you happen to know it the CLI way?
[10:48] <Poseiden> billybob: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5384/
[10:48] <fiberchunks> ah, read that wrong, thought you meant _k_onsole :)
[10:49] <Poseiden> billybob: Okay.  *now* copy that into a file, make the file executable, and:
[10:49] <simmerz> why does the vnc module for xorg not render the entire screen? it shows most of it, but some text and icons are missing...
[10:49] <Poseiden> billybob: ./script.pl <extension> <starting_directory> <backup_directory>
[10:49] <jhaig> eternalswd: I have something you could try, but it is to force unmounting a network partition.
[10:50] <Poseiden> Zaggynl: It's actually readline that is beeping.  Turn it off either globally or locally.
[10:50] <billybob> Poseiden: okie, much thanks
[10:50] <billybob> Poseiden: ill be the guinepig ;)
[10:50] <eternalswd> jhaig, thanks, I think I'll just reboot first and see what happens.
[10:50] <billybob> lol
[10:50] <oggy> well im guessing I have to isntall the swiftbox browser
[10:50] <Zaggynl> Poseiden, ah thanks
[10:51] <Poseiden> Zaggynl: the variable is bell-style.  I find setting it to "visible" is best.
[10:51] <oggy> anything I should Install from automatix
[10:51] <oggy> ?
[10:51] <Poseiden> Zaggynl: Ah, I'm tired.  Sorry.  The file you want is your inputrc.
[10:51] <Poseiden> Zaggynl: global is in /etc/, local is in userdir (if memory serves).
[10:52] <BigToe> How do I get qtparted on live CD?
[10:52] <noel_> greetings folks.
[10:52] <Poseiden> Zaggynl: note that this will _not_ help the bell in, for instance, vi.  Only at the command line.
[10:52] <billybob> Poseiden: extention requires no wildcard ie *.jpg ?
[10:52] <Zaggynl> Poseiden, okay, thanks
[10:53] <Poseiden> billybob: right.  Just the extension.  ./blerp "jpg" "/" "/backup/"
[10:53] <Poseiden> Zaggynl: np.
[10:53] <noel_> whan i download ubuntu 6.10 the server says 690 megs, but it arrives as 715 megs. Why is this??
[10:53] <Zaggynl> Poseiden, I removed the comment before 'set bell-style visible', but it still beeps :o
[10:53] <BigToe> how do I get qtparted on this live CD?
[10:53] <Poseiden> Zaggynl: you'll have to log out and back in.
[10:54] <Zaggynl> ah okay
[10:54] <posingaspopular> BigToe: its not sudo apt-get install qtparted?
[10:54] <Poseiden> Zaggynl: readline only processes the inputrc when it is started, which only happens when the shell is renewed.
[10:54] <BigToe> posingaspopular: I thought it could be that, but thought it may be different for live CD
[10:54] <BigToe> :S
[10:54] <BigToe> thanks
[10:54] <noel_> whan i download ubuntu 6.10 the server says 690 megs, but it arrives as 715 megs. Why is this??
[10:54] <posingaspopular> np
[10:54] <posingaspopular> i duno im just guessing
[10:55] <BigToe> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdelibs/kdelibs-data_3.5.2-0ubuntu18.1_all.deb  404 Not Found
[10:55] <Poseiden> noel_: grazing.  The bytes sometimes graze on their way from the server to your machine.  When they do, they get fat.
[10:55] <posingaspopular> hmm
[10:55] <posingaspopular> try using adept
[10:55] <Poseiden> noel_: you're lucky the size difference was so small.  Often they gain 50 megs or more!
[10:55] <BigToe> lol Poseiden
[10:56] <zyth> noel_, depends how efficient your filesystem is.
[10:56] <zyth> noel_, just check the md5sum if you're concerned
[10:56] <Poseiden> noel_: If I had to guess, I would guess that there were some interruptions, and that the iso didn't download properly.  That's just a guess - if you pay for bandwidth, I would go ahead and try burning it just in case.
[10:57] <posingaspopular> by that i mean add/remove
[10:57] <noel_> I expect the file sizes to be the same. Is my reasoning correct?
[10:57] <Poseiden> noel_: typically they should be the same, yes.
[10:57] <mfmf> urgh, I just installed some updates w/o checking, now my vmware wont start...
[10:58] <noel_> I have burnt it twice, and both downloads are corrupt.
[10:58] <fredl> I'm trying to run acpitool but it says Seems like this system lacks ACPI support or else /proc/acpi....
[10:58] <Ian--C> Poseiden - So I guess my best bet - at least for now is to just leave the radio application running all the time, and just let the cron job do the recording the four times of the day it's needed
[10:58] <Poseiden> noel_: what a pain.  That's no good.  Where are you getting it from?
[10:58] <billybob> Poseiden: hmm no workie
[10:58] <noel_> both iinet and university of wa
[10:58] <Poseiden> Ian--C: that sounds like a good option.  Why do you need the radio application?  What does it add?  Or are you recording from it?
[10:58] <Ian--C> It would have been nice to be able to just start it as needed, and kill it when done
[10:58] <Poseiden> noel_: broadband?
[10:59] <Poseiden> billybob: err?
[10:59] <youkilldkennedy> Poseiden: Can you point me in the right direction for getting WPA to work?
[10:59] <noel_> yes broadband
[10:59] <billybob> Poseiden
[10:59] <billybob> ./fcp.pl "jpg" "/home/movies/" "/home/movies/test/
[10:59] <billybob> > q
[10:59] <Poseiden> youkilldkennedy: not really.  It barfs for me all the time.  The program is wpa_supplicant, but best of luck.
[10:59] <fredl> When I try to modprobe acpi, it says: FATAL: Error inserting acpi_cpufreq (/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-386/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/acpi-cpufreq.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[10:59] <BigToe> qtparted and adept won't install on this live cd. :(
[11:00] <Poseiden> noel_: I don't know what to tell you.  Something screwy is going on.  Oh!  I have a thought - what are you using to d/l it?
[11:00] <billybob> crtl + C to break out of the interpreter
[11:00] <posingaspopular> BigToe: no just go to add/remove on the menu
[11:00] <posingaspopular> or whatever its called
[11:00] <Poseiden> billybob: close your quotes.
[11:00] <billybob> yikes
[11:00] <billybob> duh . . .
[11:00] <fredl> dmesg says: acpi_cpufreq: Unknown symbol cpu_online_map
[11:00] <youkilldkennedy> Poseiden: Thanks, I'll tinker with it.
[11:00] <fredl> so does this mean I can't use ACPI on my PC?
[11:01] <noel_> tried two windows applications, both from tucows.
[11:01] <ben16s> Is anyone can help me with an ubuntu server version???
[11:01] <billybob> hmmm
[11:01] <ben16s> Does i have to install an X server to use the X11 forwarding in ssh
[11:01] <billybob> bash: ./fcp.pl: perl: bad interpreter: No such file or directory <-- me thinks perhaps !#/bin/perl
[11:01] <ben16s> ??
[11:01] <Ian--C> Local radio station has one of those loialty points schemes, with extra points for special "Words of the day" at four times daily.  Roommate is really into it - but not always at the radio when the words happen.  So set up cron to record - and I thought the radio app was better than streaming flash player - so I could use the net bandwidth for other stuff
[11:02] <Poseiden> billybob: often /usr/bin/
[11:03] <Poseiden> Ian--C: I see.  I wonder if there is a CLI radio program.  That would be the way to do it.
[11:03] <Ian--C> Poseiden - CLI?  I assume Command Line Interface?
[11:03] <Poseiden> Ian--C: Sorry.  Yes.
[11:04] <ArtVandalae> Hi, where does Ubuntu download its deb files to?
[11:04] <posingaspopular> !deb
[11:04] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[11:04] <frogzoo> ArtVandalae: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[11:05] <ArtVandalae> frogzoo, thanks
[11:05] <oggy> ah swiftfox lubs me long time
[11:05] <oggy> yes
[11:05] <billybob> Poseiden: can i PM ?
[11:06] <noel_> poseiden, I shall try a third download tonight.
[11:06] <zyth> noel_, download a torrent, they errorcheck as they dl
[11:06] <Poseiden> billybob: sure
[11:07] <Poseiden> noel_: Did you d/l via ftp?
[11:07] <kraut> moin
[11:07] <Poseiden> billybob: the problem is the bad prototype for the subs?  I prototyped them like C.  That's wrong.  Should be sub findExtension { (ie - no parens)
[11:08] <Poseiden> noel_: my crazy thought is that they didn't download as binary files.
[11:08] <billybob> Poseiden: im not following you
[11:09] <billybob> Poseiden: im only a hobbyist programmer, and perl isnt a language that i know
[11:09] <Poseiden> billybob: twice in the file there are lines that begin with the word sub.  One of them looks like: sub findExtension() {.  It should be, instead, sub findExtension {.  That is, you should take the parens out.
[11:10] <cafuego_> billybob: only one person on the plant knows perl.
[11:11] <cafuego_> planet, too
[11:13] <frogzoo> cafuego_: actually that's the perl cabal, I mean, design team
[11:13] <cafuego_> frogzoo: You're implying more than one of them "know" perl.
[11:13] <frogzoo> cafuego_: I'm even prepared to go on the record to that effect
[11:14] <Poseiden> billybob: doh!  I thinko'd.
[11:14] <billybob> ?
[11:15] <billybob> man, perls error line reporting needs work lol
[11:15] <Poseiden> billybob: umm... problem number next, there should be a '$' in one of the regexs.
[11:15] <billybob> this was confusing me because of the line its reporting the error on is in fact no where near the actual error
[11:16] <billybob> Poseiden: where at specifically ?
[11:17] <Poseiden> billybob: Umm... hold on, I think I found all the myriad bugs. :)
[11:17] <pdaX> what's the best way to uninstall X, gnome, etc on a machine which used to be a desktop but which is now a headless server.. obviously I'd want to remove all the X-only software too
[11:18] <tuxvix>  Hello I need help with my resolution?
 I have ViewSonic VX2025wm
 I can't get my 1680x1050 resolution working by default.
 the xorg.conf file looks ok but its not working ....
[11:18] <Poseiden> billybob: HRM!  For some reason it isn't recursing more than one level.
[11:18] <tuxvix> I have Intel 82810E DC-133 CGC video card on iPAQ mini box
[11:18] <zyth> anyone know how I can convert an mp4 /w subs to divx and keep the subs?
[11:18] <billybob> Poseiden: so sub fonctors in perl only need be enclosed in curly braces, no parens ?
[11:18] <billybob> functors*
[11:18] <frogzoo> Poseiden: sub findExtension() {      is legit perl these day
[11:19] <tuxvix> any one?
[11:19] <posingaspopular> tuxvix: hmm
[11:20] <Poseiden> frogzoo: it's legal, but it's an incorrect prototype.  Not enough variables (I'm passing everything in @_ and shifting it off).
[11:20] <posingaspopular> there's a resolution thing around here somewhere
[11:20] <posingaspopular> !resolution
[11:20] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:20] <frogzoo> Poseiden: sub findExtension(@) {      then
[11:20] <dougb> Poseiden: i'm on feisty herd 3 right now :)
[11:20] <Poseiden> frogzoo: Or sub findExtension(@,$,$), which would be more accurate.  Or just delete it. :)
[11:21] <Poseiden> dougb: Nice!  Everything's working?  wifi?
[11:21] <frogzoo> Poseiden: sure
[11:22] <Poseiden> frogzoo: I'm too tired.  Maybe you can look at this and see why it isn't recursing deeply enough.  Or, better yet, think of a more efficient way to do what it does.
[11:22] <tuxvix> posingaspopular, what?
[11:22] <billybob> Poseiden: 'we're' only one loop deep.
[11:22] <billybob> ie ther is onl yone loop
[11:22] <pdaX> how can I uninstall everything in the ubuntu-desktop metapackage?
[11:22] <Poseiden> frogzoo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5386/
[11:22] <posingaspopular> tuxvix: did you try searching http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:22] <dougb> yup everything is working.  The ndiswrapper that came with Ubuntu didn't work, so I had to compile it from source, but wasn't that big of a deal
[11:23] <Poseiden> dougb: that's interesting.  What didn't work about it?
[11:23] <Poseiden> billybob: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5386/  <-- more betterer version.
[11:23] <dougb> i'm not sure.  it wouldn't recognize it
[11:23] <Poseiden> dougb: weird.
[11:23] <dougb> i had that problem in edgy too
[11:23] <dougb> it's a small annoyance
[11:24] <Poseiden> dougb: for you.  For someone that expects the distribution to "just work" the way "humans do," it would be very bad.
[11:24] <dougb> very true
[11:25] <tuxvix> posingaspopular, i think so
[11:25] <dougb> but compared to my experiences with other distros, it works a quicker :-P
[11:25] <Poseiden> dougb: heh.
[11:25] <tuxvix> posingaspopular, yes
[11:25] <billybob> Okay, found nothing in /home/movies/
[11:25] <billybob> lol
[11:25] <billybob> i guess that means there is nothing in the root directory
[11:25] <billybob> ;)
[11:25] <tuxvix> I have Intel 82810E DC-133 CGC i think its i810
[11:26] <tuxvix> but the default resolution is 1280x1024.
[11:26] <tuxvix> and I can't make it 1680x1050@60
[11:26] <posingaspopular> hmmm
[11:26] <dougb> the system seems much zippier than edgy
[11:26] <posingaspopular> honestly, i have no idea
[11:26] <posingaspopular> maybe ubuntu forums has something
[11:26] <tuxvix> any one have the same problem?
[11:27] <Poseiden> billybob: I need to hack on this a bit.
[11:27] <tuxvix> I've tried everything allready.
[11:27] <tuxvix> looks like my video card does not support more then 1280x1024 =(
[11:27] <tuxvix> Oh, well
[11:28] <billybob> Poseiden: yeah, its not finding files even in the root directory
[11:30] <stonekeeper> hi all. Does anyone know if it's possible to have something like active desktop on ubuntu? Maybe a fullscreen html widget? thanks!
[11:30] <Bonhomme> anyone here know much about ipsec using racoon?
[11:30] <Poseiden> billybob: Ah.  Okay, fixed the recursion.
[11:31] <unop> tuxvix, is it a fairly recent video card? is the monitor capable of higher resolutions?
[11:31] <Bonhomme> I am seeing an obscure error that gets only 3 hits in google, all of which are just the ipsec-tools source code
[11:31] <billybob> Poseiden: you really dont have to go through all this trouble, seriously, unless you're having fun of course :)
[11:31] <posingaspopular> stonekeeper: what are trying to do exactly
[11:32] <billybob> Poseiden: i do program, just dont know perl, probably wouldnt take me but a day or two to figure it out.
[11:33] <billybob> Poseiden: eventually, im probably going to write a perl script, that sorts pictures by meta data date taken, and puts them in a directory, named by dates etc
[11:34] <billybob> Poseiden: we sell puppies here, needless to say, i take lots of pictures etc, i just thought it would be cool to do that :)
[11:34] <Bonhomme> billybob: you know of course that there are a lot of programs out there already that do exactly what you just described?
[11:34] <unop> billybob,  to sort pictures by a particular date?
[11:35] <LazyAngel> my bios has an option about booting up the machine from the network. does anyone know how you do that from another linux machine?
[11:35] <billybob> unop: to take a picture, gets its date takenn meta data, creak a directory named after that date, and put pictures in it wit hthat meta data date
[11:35] <billybob> create*
[11:36] <billybob> what i mean by date taken meta data, is the actual date the picture was taken, not just the file last modified date
[11:36] <Zaggynl> Anyone knows howto get the gnome-power-manager in the slit of fluxbox?
[11:36] <billybob> Bonhomme: yeah, well, if you know of such a script, a link would be much appriciated ;)
[11:37] <stonekeeper> posingaspopular: I'm trying to load an interactive webpage onto my desktop background
[11:37] <unop> billybob,  well, what kind of pictures?
[11:37] <billybob> Bonhomme: otheriwse, im a hobbyist programer, probably wold keep me busy for a few days.
[11:37] <Bonhomme> billybob: google picasa?
[11:37] <mneptok> billybob: ImageMagick
[11:37] <unop> billybob,  jpeg? png? etc?
[11:38] <billybob> mneptok: afaik imagemagik is a library, no ?
[11:38] <posingaspopular> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[11:38] <billybob> unop: based on param <extension>
[11:38] <posingaspopular> that sounds really cool
[11:38] <posingaspopular> but ive never heard of that being donw
[11:38] <posingaspopular> done
[11:38] <posingaspopular> duno if its possible
[11:38] <posingaspopular> or where to get info on that
[11:38] <billybob> it IS possible
[11:39] <mneptok> billybob: you said you were a hobbyist programmer ....
[11:39] <Bonhomme> billybob: ah ok, picasa is released by google
[11:39] <unop> billybob,  sure .. but each format has it's own way of storing metadata .. so you'll need different routines for each extension
[11:39] <billybob> mneptok: yes, but why reinvent the whel ?
[11:39] <Bonhomme> I think they bought the IP from some company
[11:39] <mneptok> billybob: huh?
[11:39] <Ian--C> Poseiden: Thank for your help - you gave me some ideas of an approach to try.
[11:40] <billybob> mneptok:yes, but WHY reinvent the wheel
[11:40] <mneptok> billybob: i don't know what that means in this context
[11:40] <billybob> mneptok: in other words, if ther is already an application out there, why go through all the trouble ?
[11:41] <billybob> especially if it is free :)
[11:41] <Poseiden> Ian--C: np.
[11:41] <Ian--C> Bye all
[11:41] <Poseiden> billybob: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5387/  <--- pretty much works.
[11:41] <mneptok> billybob: you want to manipulate images. IM is a stack designed to allow developers to easily manipulate images.
[11:41] <Poseiden> billybob: Anyhow, I assume it does.
[11:41] <mneptok> billybob: and IM is free.
[11:42] <billybob> :P
[11:42] <Poseiden> billybob: there is a package called 'exif' that contains a command-line utility to read the exif info from images.
[11:42] <billybob> Poseiden: yeah
[11:42] <billybob> i bookmarked all that before, i just havent gotten around to it
[11:42] <billybob> im pretty busy :/
[11:42] <Poseiden> billybob: it should be easy to turn that into what you want with a little bit of perl.
[11:43] <billybob> yeah
[11:43] <Poseiden> billybob: Anyhow, the backup script should mostly work now.  And I must sleep.  Enjoy.
[11:43] <billybob> Poseiden: someone i know who knows perl very well, said it could be done in like 30 lines of code
[11:43] <billybob> Poseiden: thanks !
[11:43] <Poseiden> billybob: cheers.
[11:46] <stonekeeper> any ideas on my website desktop question?
[11:46] <chrismhampson> hi
[11:46] <chrismhampson> Ive installed compiz-nvidia as in the ubuntuguide but I have no cube or wobbly effects on reboot. Any ideas_
[11:47] <chrismhampson> hmm my keyboard layout looks wrong too
[11:47] <stonekeeper> lol
[11:47] <billybob> heheh it worked sort of, backedup al the directories, but no files
[11:47] <soundray> chrismhampson: you must have missed the bit about $HOME/.gnomerc -- please ask about compiz in #ubuntu-effects
[11:48] <chrismhampson> soundray, thanks
[11:49] <unop> billybob,  there's a perl script (2nd reply) here that could do with little modification for your job - http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20051114073155729
[11:49] <billybob> unop: thanks
[11:49] <zyth> anyone know how I can convert an mp4 /w subs to divx and keep the subs?
[11:50] <billybob> unop: you know, this is one area Linux definately excells in
[11:50] <unop> billybob,  but perl transcends an OS's capability in this area -- and perl can be used pretty much universally
[11:50] <unop> :)
[11:50] <SoulChild> HEY ALL, there is a symbol missing in my XFCE Menu, where to config please ?
[11:51] <billybob> yeah, i know what its capable of, even though i dont know how to code using it yet
[11:51] <billybob> unop: its not like the dark side couldnt be made to do this either, but with a little more difficulty.
[11:52] <SoulChild> guys nobody can solve my problem ? :(
[11:52] <adrigen> anyone: whenever I use an audio application (beyond an mp3/cd player) i get a message saying that no audio device could be found, where should I go to start looking for support?
[11:53] <billybob> SoulChild: *what* problem ?
[11:53] <unop> billybob,  well, perl's using exif there, so the real magic is done by exif and i'm sure there are other bindings for exif, bash, python, applescript, php, etc .. i think you could pick a language a you're comfortable with and try it out
[11:53] <adrigen> (cant find anything... which is strange... though I havent had probs with drivers before)
[11:53] <posingaspopular> adrigen: more specifically?
[11:53] <posingaspopular> an audio player?
[11:53] <posingaspopular> like... amarok? kaffeine
[11:54] <billybob> unop: well perl just makes it easier, and the fact that Linux makes using perl easy isnt bad either
[11:54] <SoulChild> billybob: there is a symbol missing in my XFCE Menu, whre to change?
[11:54] <posingaspopular> adrigen: you're looking for a program to play your files?
[11:55] <joe_schmo> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/f/faac/libfaac0_1.24clean-0ubuntu4_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[11:55] <unop> billybob,  perl wasnt written for/on linux :)
[11:55] <billybob> unop: however, using the dark side + .NET (.net would be the easiest method i think), ther would still have to be a lib import, and no doubt LOTS of hackering . . .
[11:55] <joe_schmo> I get this error when I try to get mplayer ...
[11:55] <joe_schmo> ^^
[11:55] <billybob> unop: unix ? . . .
[11:56] <billybob> SoulChild: not familiar, but it sounds like a rather broad question
[11:56] <posingaspopular> yea i think thats an issue with the repos, but im not sure
[11:56] <unop> billybob,  yep, but the niche larry wall wrote perl for is platform independant .. perl works universally, unix, linux, win32, novell, mac os, dos ,etc
[11:56] <billybob> SoulChild: i take it you're trying to compile something ?
[11:57] <adrigen> posingaspopular: midisequencers, mp3 mixers, drum machines have problems with finding audio hardware...
[11:57] <billybob> unop: the difference is, Linux NEEDS perl, atleast in the case of "debian" and is already integrated :)
[11:57] <SoulChild> billybob... ??? HMMM no ... i installed Lyx and i can't see the symbol in my Menu
[11:57] <posingaspopular> oh okay i get it
[11:57] <billybob> SoulChild: ooooh, sorry . . .
[11:57] <posingaspopular> hmm
[11:57] <posingaspopular> have you update anythign recently?
[11:57] <SoulChild> billybob, problem solved
[11:57] <SoulChild> billybob, thank you
[11:57] <billybob> SoulChild: have you your locales setup properly ?
[11:58] <billybob> err, okay . . .
[11:58] <unop> billybob,  errm, linux doesnt need perl .. the userland might do too, but thats only if the tools are perl dependant
[11:58] <unop> s/too/tho/
[11:58] <billybob> unop: ever tried to install debian, or ubuntu without perl ?
[11:59] <unop> billybob,  but debian encompasses linux .. it is not just linux, it's linux and the userland
[11:59] <billybob> unop: im nto saying it isnt possible, just so happen i think the install scripts currently require it
[12:00] <stonekeeper> lol! use the deksotp wall in beryl then Super+wheel mouse!
[12:00] <stonekeeper> trippy!
[12:00] <billybob> unop: now , granted, im not linux expert, nor do i claim to be, just that ive experienced an install that the perl packages were currupted, and the install faield because of it
[12:00] <johns^> stonekeeper: zoom?
[12:00] <stonekeeper> yeah
[12:01] <johns^> I use it for a client who previously used a 3th party zoom
[12:01] <johns^> about 1000 $ :)
[12:01] <johns^> madness
[12:02] <fluidite> #cvf
[12:02] <unop> billybob, bahh, naturally .. but thats a problem with package dependencies in the user space part of debian .. nothing to do with linux really
[12:03] <stonekeeper> johns^: but it zooms each wall segment
[12:03] <billybob> unop: yeah, im sure someone could come up with a python install script, nd use it instread, or perhaps even ASM if they so chose
[12:03] <johns^> stonekeeper: so?
[12:04] <unop> billybob,  exactly, now you get my drift :)
[12:05] <billybob> unop: hmm cool link, i thik ill bookmark that for future refference
[12:05] <billybob> unop: you notice the last, 'smarta$$' remark ?
[12:06] <unop> billybob,  the one about ASM? :>
[12:06] <billybob> 'It's easier than this - no applescript required. . . .'
[12:06] <billybob> no on that EXIF page you linked me to
[12:07] <Yodude> hey i just installed banshee music player
[12:07] <unop> billybob,  ohh, on the page -- heh, yea, well for that particular person and the job he wanted, it seems that is the easiest way :)
[12:07] <billybob> someone is obviously dependant on X ;)
[12:07] <Yodude> but i need an AAC pugin
[12:07] <Yodude> and a MP# one
[12:07] <mydivbot> hi guys i have problem with playing streaming videos
[12:07] <Yodude> MP3*
[12:07] <billybob> Yodude: i take it you've googled ?
[12:07] <Yodude> i searched synaptic for AAC and MP3 and i downloaded some gstreamer plugins
[12:08] <Yodude> no i haven't gooled
[12:08] <Yodude> googled*
[12:08] <elementz> hi everybody
[12:08] <Yodude> but i still can't play my AAC's
[12:08] <elementz> i am trying to move all jpg files from a dir and its subdirs to a newdir - can somebody help with that?
[12:08] <billybob> Yodude: would probably be a good place to start, if i knew personally, id let you know hwoever, but obvioulsy i dont
[12:08] <Yodude> thnkx anyway
[12:08] <billybob> google that is
[12:08] <unop> Yodude,  install the !w32codecs and mplayer-codecs
[12:08] <elementz> already tried:  can somebody tell me what is wrong with this line?: 'find wget -name '*.jpg' -exec mv {} /home/wget/000/{} \;'
[12:08] <elementz> anybody?
[12:08] <Yodude> does anyone here know where i can AAC and MP3 support
[12:09] <Yodude> i'm using banshee though
[12:09] <Onore_e_Gloria> hi
[12:09] <soundray> elementz: you need to protect the braces: '{}'
[12:09] <unop> elementz,  you dont need the second {} too
[12:09] <elementz> kk let me try
[12:09] <posingaspopular> !banshee
[12:09] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[12:09] <erUSUL> !mp3
[12:09] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:10] <soundray> elementz: it's generally better to feed find output to mv via xargs
[12:10] <elementz> soundray, how would i do that?
[12:10] <burito> how do I remove the mounted partitions from my desktop?
[12:10] <mydivbot> !codecs
[12:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:10] <Onore_e_Gloria> sorry....it's possible to remove the splash screen in the boot ?
[12:11] <unop> soundray,  except that xargs is likely to die if the number of args exceeds what it can handle
[12:11] <Yodude> unop: hey can you give me the name of the packages please?
[12:11] <KenSentMe> Does anyone know of a fix for not being able to start X after the recent kernel upgrade with nvidia driver?
[12:11] <unop> !w32codecs | Yodude
[12:11] <ubotu> Yodude: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[12:11] <soundray> elementz: 'find wget -name \*.jpg -print0 | xargs -i -0 mv '{}' /home/wget/000/'
[12:11] <Onore_e_Gloria> i want only the "text" line  in the boot
[12:11] <Ian-C> I guess posiden left?   Just wanted to thank him - followed his suggestion and found a way that worked
[12:11] <ante_> can somedoby tell me how to put some files into win rar ?
[12:12] <soundray> unop: no, it is designed to only use the maximum number of args possible per invocation.
[12:12] <elementz> thx soundray, let me try
[12:12] <unop> soundray,  nooo, if he has 10,000 pictures there xargs will choke
[12:12] <zoli2k> is there a channel separate for Ubuntu server?
[12:12] <Onore_e_Gloria> sorry....it's possible to remove the splash screen in the boot ?
[12:12] <coNP> zoli2k: yep, #ubuntu-server
[12:12] <F-nkyMNK> Hello to my fellow Ubuntians!
[12:13] <zoli2k> thanx
[12:13] <Yodude> hey i seached synaptic for w32codecs
[12:13] <Yodude> but i didn't find anything
[12:13] <jrib> !w32codecs | Yodude
[12:13] <ubotu> Yodude: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[12:13] <ante_> can somedoby tell me how to put some files into win rar ?
[12:14] <coNP> ante_: you mean creating a rar archive that can be later opened by winrar?
[12:14] <unop> soundray,  find's exec is better there it just performs that action on each file it enounters, xargs on the other hand tries to compile a command containing the list of files and there's a definite limit to how many args xargs can take (some 2048, i think)
[12:14] <Yodude> jrib: didn't find it
[12:14] <Onore_e_Gloria> it's possible to remove the splash screen in the boot ?
[12:14] <unop> Yodude,  did you add !seveas's repostory? did you read the instructions there?
[12:15] <ante_> cpNP: yeah, i need make winn rar and put in it some mp3 so i can put it on rapid share
[12:15] <Yodude> oh no wait
[12:15] <cake> hey guys, im having a weird problem. i installed latest nvidia ( on latest kernel -11) and now the gfxcard outputs signals on the wrong interface
[12:15] <Yodude> sorry my bad
[12:15] <cake> anyone had that before?
[12:15] <soundray> unop: find's exec will invoke mv once for each argument. xargs will automatically invoke several mv's if and only if the maximum args number is exceeded.
[12:15] <superkirbyartist> I am looking for Ubuntu music store.
[12:15] <carlhume> Can anyone give me a hand setting up nVidia dual-head in 6.10?
[12:15] <posingaspopular> !ubuntu music
[12:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu music - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:15] <Onore_e_Gloria> it's possible to remove the splash screen in the boot ?
[12:15] <cake> it outputs signals on the hdmi interface while the monitor is connected on the dvi..
[12:16] <posingaspopular> Onore_e_Gloria: yes, but i dont know how
[12:16] <coNP> Onore_e_Gloria: yep
[12:16] <Onore_e_Gloria> how can i do?
[12:16] <coNP> Onore_e_Gloria: you should edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[12:16] <carlhume> Onore_e_Gloria, if you edit your grub - /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:16] <carlhume> Onore_e_Gloria, Remove the quiet splash options next to the kernel you're booting
[12:16] <elementz> soundray, unop, ok -> done it via xargs now -> is there a way to rename files that are already there? eg foo.jpg already in newdir, so i rename it to foo1.jpg ?
[12:16] <superkirbyartist> Anyone knows about Linux music stores?
[12:17] <Onore_e_Gloria> thanks
[12:17] <Onore_e_Gloria> thank you very much
[12:17] <posingaspopular> superkirbyartist: is there one?
[12:17] <posingaspopular> i havent heard of such a thing
[12:17] <elementz> soundray, unop, i mean before moving it to newdir
[12:17] <ante_> coNP: ....
[12:17] <Ian-C> Ante_ - There is a RAR for linux - see http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-newbie/70521-linux-rar-command-list.html
[12:17] <coNP> ante_: sorry?
[12:18] <ante_> Ian-C: what after that
[12:18] <superkirbyartist> posingaspopular: Mindawn has barely any songs.  I'm looking for something like Lapster or Rhapsody.
[12:18] <zoli2k> Hi, can anybody highlight the main differences between ubuntu server and debian?
[12:18] <cntb> \o PriceChild
[12:19] <unop> elementz,  i think you need to start a script there
[12:19] <cntb> PriceChild: PM?
[12:19] <Ian-C> It points you to two different Linux programs for handling RAR - one by the WinRar people - one not
[12:19] <elementz> unop, ok thx
[12:19] <carlhume> cake, Just noticed your nVidia question - are you running dual-head?
[12:19] <Raging_Hog> Can I install Ubuntu on a 96mb RAM machine? I intend to switch to fluxbox immediately
[12:19] <billybob> zoli2k: functionality, they are basically the same
[12:20] <cake> carlhume: no, not at the moment
[12:20] <ante_> coNP i was talking to u about rar
[12:20] <cake> i was gonna take the box down to the "tv room" after finishing the config
[12:20] <posingaspopular> Raging_Hog: yea, but do xubuntu
[12:20] <soundray> Raging_Hog: yes, you can install the server edition from the alternate CD.
[12:20] <carlhume> cake, ah, thx - I'm trying to debug my own nVidia problems - I've got it working with ATI, but not nvidia
[12:20] <cake> but since screen went dead i thought hey maybe its just outputting on the wrong interface and that was the problem indeed
[12:20] <posingaspopular> its below the suggest limit, but it should work
[12:20] <carlhume> cake, Nice - Myth?
[12:20] <soundray> Raging_Hog: yeah, xubuntu is another option
[12:20] <Ian-C> Raging_Hog - You could try Puppy Linux - it is very small and would run on that size of machine
[12:20] <cake> carlhume: that was the plan
[12:20] <cake> :)
[12:21] <coNP> sorry, ante_, did you get the proper answer
[12:21] <carlhume> :)
[12:21] <cake> i dont have any network down there yet so cant finish the config if i have to use the projector as a monitor
[12:21] <cake> hehe
[12:21] <Ian-C> Not quite as much available in the way of programs - but an OK distro to start with
[12:21] <cake> kinda weird
[12:21] <Raging_Hog> Ian-C, it's going to a person who does't know practically anything about computers. I trust ubuntu to be the safest choice
[12:21] <cake> maybe u should just go out and buy a hdmi<->dvi connector thingy
[12:22] <Raging_Hog> posingaspopular: I lost all the menus with Xubuntu once, don't really trust it. I got them back but she might not who is going to get the system
[12:22] <ante_> coNP no
[12:22] <KenSentMe> Does anyone know of a fix for not being able to start X after the recent kernel upgrade with nvidia driver?
[12:22] <coNP> ante_: could you install rar (enable multiverse repos and install package rar)?
[12:23] <posingaspopular> Raging_Hog: but you're going to install another distro right after aren't you. its up to you.
[12:23] <cntb> KenSentMe: this is normal
[12:23] <Ian-C> Take a look at Puppy - Fred Langa (of the LangaList) swears by it.  And with it's Live CD you can actuall install suff and have a home directory on a Windows machine without makeing a Linux partition
[12:23] <KenSentMe> cntb: explain
[12:23] <pbureau> Morning to all
[12:24] <billybob> Ian-C: you can do that also with edgy
[12:24] <billybob> dapper too maybe
[12:24] <Raging_Hog> Ian-C: I've played around a bit with puppy. I'd rather give her something that atleast I know well
[12:24] <cntb> I am recently studying this and all situations when you are stuck with no X
[12:24] <cntb> KenSentMe: especially when I deliver a Pc to a client
[12:25] <pbureau> KennethP,  your previously installesd drivers are nvidia the update is looking at nv as drivers reconfigure the xserver.conf
[12:25] <KenSentMe> cntb: i know more people have the problem, but i was wondering if a fix is underway?
[12:25] <soundray> unop: just done a test case - are you interested?
[12:25] <billybob> http://goodbye-microsoft.com/ <---- there is a link to an executable that installs debian, and i think for edgy also, in a loop file
[12:25] <Ian-C> billybob - Ok - good to know - but definatly not obvious - not in the easy to find docs for a first time user - I never saw any mention that I could do that
[12:26] <billybob> ie: it can be run on a windows system
[12:26] <unop> soundray,  sure
[12:26] <soundray> unop: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5390/
[12:26] <cntb> if nvidia is not legacy then : KenSentMe https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[12:26] <Ian-C> So I took the plundge and installed on an old small hard drive
[12:26] <KenSentMe> cntb: i just used the nvidia-glx package, like said in the wiki
[12:27] <cntb>  KenSentMe i keeep saying that looks like a normal behaviour and is annoying but seems to be by design  KenSentMe
[12:27] <soundray> billybob: that's not exactly the same as setting up a permanent home inside a file on a Windows partition to support a live system
[12:27] <cntb> so after upgrade you reinstall nvidia oK? KenSentMe ?
[12:28] <KenSentMe> cntb: doesn't work
[12:28] <Ian-C> The Ubunto sister to "Goodbye-microsoft" is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/install.exe
[12:28] <soundray> cntb: are you aware of the recent packaging bugs affecting nvidia?
[12:28] <cntb> lan-c what goodbye ?
[12:29] <billybob> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[12:30] <yommb> join #vmware
[12:30] <cntb> soundray: no not aware the oher day installed some NVIDIA though on edgy
[12:30] <soundray> cntb: I guess this recent trouble is what bit KenSentMe, so it's probably no use pointing him to the wiki
[12:30] <zoli2k> Which version of ubuntu server you recommend? 6.10 or 6.06 LTS?
[12:31] <billybob> zoli2k: what are you requirements ?
[12:31] <coNP> zoli2k: for what purposes?
[12:31] <billybob> 6.10 has better I/O, if say you run a local Samba server or something, 6.06 is supposed to be rock solid
[12:32] <zoli2k> billybob, coNP: mediawiki, apache, mysql and shell account for students.
[12:32] <billybob> 6.06
[12:32] <soundray> zoli2k: 6.06
[12:32] <cntb> soundray: I say every kernel upgrade brings you back to graphics drivers install. true ?
[12:32] <coNP> 6.10 for mediawiki and apache and mysql / 6.06 for students
[12:32] <Ian-C> CNTB - Billybob saw my discussion of PuppyLinux's ability to have a home directory on a Windows machine and said that Ubuntu had a similar ability, sending me to www.goodbyemicrosoft.com (which is Debian Linux) - I looked there and found the link back to the Ubuntu equivalent
[12:33] <cntb> tyvm lan-c
[12:33] <billybob> Ian-C: yeah, i havent messed with ti, but ive read about it
[12:33] <arsentop> anyone any idea whats up with my network-manager?
[12:33] <arsentop> using edgy 6.10, cant seem to get it to actually load as it appears on the website#
[12:34] <billybob> Ian-C: its supposed to have some sort of loopback file functrionality, and using grub, fairly neat concept
[12:34] <zoli2k> coNP: mediwiki is my highest priority. 6.10 because there is a newest version of mediawiki?
[12:34] <soundray> cntb: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=357767
[12:34] <KenSentMe> cntb: a sudo apt-get --reinstall install nvidia-glx didn't solve the problem
[12:35] <soundray> KenSentMe: there is a forum discussion about what I think is your problem: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=357767
[12:35] <cntb> lan-c http://goodbye-microsoft.com/ brings debian invitation to  install
[12:36] <billybob> cntb: click on the more info link
[12:36] <Ian-C> Well I guess since I took the plunge and used an old small hard drive I guess I don't need it any more.  But I have to admit if Ubuntu implemented a similar feature to Puppy (alowing a home directory and installed apps without making a linux partition) I bet there would be a lot more converts
[12:36] <zoli2k> I will use 6.06 LTS. Thank you for your help.
[12:36] <billybob> cntb: there is a ubuntu 'sister' link
[12:36] <KenSentMe> soundray: ok, thanks
[12:36] <cntb> billybob: give sister link again pls
[12:36] <billybob> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/install.exe
[12:37] <Ian-C> The Ubunto sister to "Goodbye-microsoft" is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/install.exe
[12:37] <cntb> ok
[12:37] <billybob> cntb: read the text on that site, last time i looked, not everythign was complete
[12:37] <Ian-C> Ok - G'night all
[12:38] <Yodude> hey is there a sound equalizer for ubuntu?
[12:38] <Yodude> like the one in iTunes?
[12:41] <Yodude> please is there a sound equalizer for ubuntu???
[12:41] <Yodude> i need one please someone help me
[12:41] <puggy> Anyone know where I can find information on TSM (IBM Tivoli Storage Manager) Client for Ubuntu?
[12:42] <frogzoo> Yodude: apt-cache search equaliser
[12:42] <puggy> Yodude: install one of your choice
[12:42] <frogzoo> Yodude: or just install audacious
[12:42] <Yodude> do i search synaptic for "equalizer"?
[12:42] <frogzoo> !audacious | Yodude
[12:42] <ubotu> Yodude: A !repository for the Audacious audio player now exists: see http://audacious-media-player.org/Downloads
[12:43] <frogzoo> Yodude: that's just a player mind, you'll need to search if you want to do mixing
[12:43] <cntb> So billybob is install.exe from windows already here ?
[12:43] <frogzoo> !audacity
[12:43] <Yodude> now i already have banshee
[12:43] <ubotu> audacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4b-2.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1850 kB, installed size 5444 kB
[12:43] <Yodude> i want something i can use with banshee
[12:44] <Yodude> is there one that i can use with banshee?
[12:44] <frogzoo> Yodude: search for one that works with banshee or write your own
[12:45] <erUSUL> Yodude: there is no equalizer for gstreamer (that's waht banshee uses) that i know of
[12:45] <elementz> can somebody help me with enabling/installing svn?
[12:45] <hayden> !java
[12:45] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[12:45] <newest007> hey there, can someone walk me through installing doom for linux?
[12:45] <soundray> elementz:
[12:45] <erUSUL> elementz: sudo pat-get install svn
[12:45] <Yodude> no there is for gstreamer
[12:46] <soundray> !subversion | elementz
[12:46] <ubotu> elementz: subversion is an open source application used for revision control. It is sometimes abbreviated to svn in reference to the name of its command line interface. Look here for a Subversion How To on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion
[12:46] <Yodude> gstreamer is LADSAP
[12:46] <Yodude> i found one for that protocol'
[12:46] <sir_dejavu>  matrix.dal.net
[12:46] <elementz> thx
[12:46] <elementz> soundray, ubotu thx
[12:48] <Lunar_Lamp> !doom ! newest007
[12:48] <Lunar_Lamp> !doom | newest007
[12:48] <ubotu> newest007: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[12:48] <cntb> elementz ubotu is a bot
[12:48] <elementz> cntb, lol thx for telling me
[12:49] <cntb> ubotu not human
[12:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about not human - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:49] <cntb> !human
[12:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about human - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:49] <unop> !ubotu
[12:49] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:49] <soundray> cntb: don't tell, elementz would have found out soon enough ;)
[12:50] <cntb> so what is the schedule for ubuntu install.exe ? launchpad has it ?
[12:52] <humbolto> alsa in edgy does not seem to do dmixing by default anymore
[12:53] <IdleOne> can I get some help with installing virtualbox http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5391/
[12:53] <erUSUL> ubotu tell IdleOne about virtualbox | IdleOne see priv msg from ubotu
[12:54] <inception> My sound has just.. disappeared. Anyone has any ideas?
[12:54] <unop> cntb,  :) http://goodbye-microsoft.com/screenshots/
[12:54] <erUSUL> !virtualbox
[12:54] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[12:54] <IdleOne> erUSUL: I know about the site Im getting a module error
[12:54] <inception> I had to save the system from those Nvidia drivers, and no sound since that..
[12:55] <cntb> unop tyvm
[12:55] <erUSUL> IdleOne: the contents of /var/log/vbox-install.log ore?
[12:55] <erUSUL> are?
[12:55] <hayden> i installed edubuntu-artwork to get the gnome theme it uses, but i also installed the edubuntu gdm theme and usplash, how do i go back to the original ubuntu usplash?
[12:55] <Lunar_Lamp> !usplash | hayden
[12:55] <ubotu> hayden: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[12:56] <IdleOne> erUSUL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5231/ at bottom
[12:56] <hayden> ty
[12:57] <erUSUL> IdleOne: try installing the kernel 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)' 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)'
[12:58] <inception> Noone that can help me getting my sound back? =/ everything works appearantly, except there's no actual sound coming out..
[12:58] <IdleOne> erUSUL: E: The package virtualbox needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. ( got this error after running the command for installing the kernel )
[12:59] <erUSUL> IdleOne: try removing it first 'sudo apt-get remove --purge virtualbox'
[01:00] <IdleOne> erUSUL: E: The package virtualbox needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[01:00] <IdleOne> erUSUL: the .deb is on my Desktop
[01:01] <inception> okies, no help to get =/
[01:01] <dfd> hello
[01:01] <frogzoo> inception: somewhere you have a mute - sound -> prefs -> volume control - check file -> audio devices & edit -> preferences
[01:03] <erUSUL> IdleOne: try 'sudo cp *.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/' and run again the thing...
[01:04] <IdleOne> erUSUL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5392/
[01:05] <llama32> i'm currently on dialup, and i'm looking to switch to ADSL. i don't really know what the situation with ADSL modems are on linux - is it likely that if i go for a plan with the modem supplied by the ISP that it'll work fine on linux/ubuntu?
[01:05] <dfd> I'm having problems with my sound card. I'm using ubuntu unstable.. my sound card has always worked correctly but from last upgrade it doesn't. I can't see any error messages anywhere.. gnome control center audio finds the sound card (it appears in the drop down list as "Ensoniq AudioPCI (Alsa mixer)"). What should I look for?
[01:05] <IdleOne> !adsl | llama32
[01:05] <ubotu> llama32: Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[01:06] <erUSUL> IdleOne: try a reinstall then... 'sudo apt-get install virtualbox'
[01:06] <coNP> erUSUL, IdleOne I guess that does not work, try to install via dpkg --install <.deb files>
[01:07] <Svish> !boring
[01:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about boring - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:07] <dfd> !audio
[01:07] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:07] <dfd> :)
[01:07] <chris_> !svish
[01:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about svish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:09] <arphetic> Hiya, I'm running Ubuntu (with gnome) and I got this error on the right of my scream. It says Details and Hide. Though when I press Hide, it doesnt respons/go away, I just cant get the msg away... What can I do?
[01:09] <coNP> !swish
[01:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:09] <erUSUL> coNP: well all that mess began with that same comand (the perils of third party debs)
[01:09] <coNP> erUSUL: okay, I see
[01:09] <IdleOne> erUSUL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5393 erUSUL coNP
[01:09] <arphetic> A new msg just showed up, it now says Hide all, details, hide
[01:09] <chris_> !svish = a boring fella
[01:09] <arphetic> but none respond
[01:09] <chris_> !svish