[20:50] <b0w> hello! anyone knows how can i change the gtk tooltip-delay-settings? its taking like 10 seconds for everything
[20:50] <dma> why can't i join a chat room with pidgin
[20:50] <Preston> RTFM, noobs
[20:50] <tstebut_> My probleme is hostbased ssh between a ubuntu ssh client and a CentOS ssh server
[20:50] <DasEi> dAnon: or navigate there via > places
[20:51] <ZykoticK9> penthief, could you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file for the channel
[20:51] <tstebut_> hotbased or not , in fact
[20:51] <lordganesh> dskjr: i want to make simple download schedular using script ..so i require any command that does job at given time ..i found at does same thing on net
[20:51] <DasEi> dma: not registered ?
[20:51] <ru83n> dma.... neither can i
[20:51] <dAnon> ok got it
[20:51] <tstebut_> http://pastebin.com/m3a601aca
[20:51] <dAnon> strange
[20:51] <DasEi> np
[20:51] <dma> i can see all my buddylist but can't join chat room
[20:52] <dskjr> lordganesh, is this something that will run at set intervals on certain days, or every so often during a day?
[20:52] <dma> i am trying to use yahoo chat room
[20:52] <c3l> yahoo sucks?
[20:52] <penthief> http://paste.ubuntu.com/310910/
[20:52] <Renan> =D
[20:52] <Dys7opia> how do i remove rp-pppoe, i hate this shit
[20:52] <xfire8> red and help please http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/page-250411_12_0.html thanks
[20:53] <ranix> Dys7opia: apt-get remove?
[20:53] <ranix> drr
[20:53] <Dys7opia> didnt work
[20:53] <ranix> !doesn't work
[20:53] <dAnon> DasEi this file is damn full of text :P
[20:53] <dma> is there any good accounting software for ubuntu?
[20:53] <ranix> Dys7opia: help me help you so I don't have to ask brain-dead questions like "what was the error message"
[20:53] <lordganesh> dskjr: i want run my torrents files between 2am to 8am automatically
[20:53] <k1ko> ♪
[20:53] <Dys7opia> cant find package rp-pppoe
[20:53] <DasEi> dAnon: use search function
[20:54] <ZykoticK9> penthief, i don't see a problem with your sources.list file - hopefully someone else does???
[20:54] <ranix> Dys7opia: dpkg -l will give you a list of packages, you can search for pppoe with grep
[20:54] <xfire8> red and help please http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/page-250411_12_0.html thanks
[20:54] <ranix> Dys7opia: dpkg -l | grep pppoe
[20:54] <penthief> Does the software center modify you sources.list? I'm sure mine has changed _completely_ since opening that thing
[20:54] <Dys7opia> ok thank u ranix
[20:54] <ranix> Dys7opia: and remove the offending package
[20:54] <dskjr> lordganesh: do you have a script to enable and disable them?
[20:54] <dskjr> or how are you thinking about doing it with at?
[20:55] <qvqvqv> hi guys, i can't get ubuntu to work in windows 7 virtual pc. "segmentation fault" errors. can anyone please help ?
[20:55] <dskjr> i don't see why you wouldnt schedule something like that using crontab
[20:55] <h4f> I have installed third part application from web. how do I uninstal it. could not find it in synaptic nor software center
[20:55] <Dys7opia> shiit
[20:55] <camo> I need help. I deleted the main top menu bar from my main user and I don't know how to fix it. Yesterday I tried what some one suggested in the chat but I was not able fix it. to
[20:55] <dAnon> DasEi I do use search but dunno what to search for, trying like memory or something
[20:55] <Flannel> h4f: How did you install it?
[20:55] <ZykoticK9> penthief, have you tried changing your mirror?  FYI my sources.list does NOT include any security.ubuntu.com entries?!?!
[20:55] <h4f> Flannel: apt-get --force-architecture install rumus.deb
[20:56] <insm0d> hey qvqvqv, segmentation faults are the bane of programming.  To try to see what's going on would require extensive use of a debugging program to recreate the conditions.  I don't think there is much you can do to fix it besides trying something else
[20:56] <dskjr> k1ko how did you type that musical note?
[20:56] <Flannel> h4f: Then you should be able to remove it through your favorite package manager.  Or you could just apt-get purge remus
[20:56] <Flannel> penthief: Please pastebin the output of `sudo apt-get update`
[20:57] <lordganesh> dskjr: i just have to enter ktorrent in script ktorrent will automatically start downloading ... what i want to do is automatically start my pc at 2.00 pm and shutdown at 8.00am
[20:57] <qvqvqv> thanks insm0d
[20:57] <qvqvqv> i guess i'll try a different distro
[20:57] <pulec_> finally, mirc like chatt
[20:57] <qvqvqv> what does segmentation fault actually mean?
[20:57] <h4f> Flannel: thanks. Worked. I tried it before but seems misspelled something .
[20:57] <ruben23> hi tried to install wubi for my ubuntu desktop, but during installtion i get error occurred---> permission denied
[20:57] <stephanee> I'm on ubuntu server 9.10 and trying to install php5.3 packages from dotdeb. I have already made this on another installation but now I just can't make aptitude install php5 because of a BROKEN package : libapache2-mod-php5. How can I know if the problem comes from APTITUDE or from dotdeb's package ? Thanks a lot !!!
[20:57] <ruben23> any idea on this
[20:57] <pulec_> anybody have good guide how to install proper drivers on ati x800 gto in ubuntu 9.10?
[20:57] <ranix> qvqvqv: your program tried to access memory in the stack space of another program
[20:57] <camo> Can anyone help me with the top menu bar
[20:58] <ranix> qvqvqv: that's a simplistic explanation but it should do for you
[20:58] <qvqvqv> how odd
[20:58] <signornessuno> lordganesh: to poweroff you can use shutdown -n 8:00
[20:58] <Renan> =D
[20:58] <marxx> i'm having problems with suspend mode. the system hang up (wont wake up anymore) and I have to turn off the computer and unplug-plug the machine from the electric corrent
[20:58] <dskjr> you want to start your pc at 2 pm an shut it off at 8 am or start the program to begin and end at those times?
[20:58] <ranix> qvqvqv: you would have been able to learn this googling for "segmentation fault", which you should do in the future before asking #ubuntu
[20:58] <insm0d> it's hard to explain.  Basically it's a problem that the compiler should have caught but doesn't.  I could be something like the program expects a variable to be a certain number but somewhere in the code that variable is changed
[20:58] <ranix> FYI
[20:58] <ruben23> hi tried to install wubi for my ubuntu desktop, but during installtion i get error occurred---> permission denied on the installation process in windows
[20:58] <al> hi, can anyone recommend a more elegant alternative to apt-build?
[20:58] <Renan> Tem algum brasileiro ai?
[20:58] <VCoolio> camo: right click the bottom bar, click add panel (I assume you mean the panel?), place it on top and add applets
[20:59] <Pici> !br | Renan
[20:59] <qvqvqv> i understand, thanks for your explanations
[20:59] <Renan> vlw
[20:59] <need_help> need help vnc over ssh it work fine! but i'm doing port forward so when i'm out of home i can vnc to my Desktop server ! i try ssh -R 5900:localhost:5900<EMAIL_ADDRESS>but didn;t work! why? locally it work i enter VNC using : localhost:0 but remotely when i try it ex: moe.lan:0 it open not encrypted!
[20:59] <Renan> #ubuntu-br
[20:59] <ZykoticK9> stephanee, i have NO idea in regards to your issue - but why are you trying to install Debian packages on Ubuntu?  they will probably work, but, can't you find an ubuntu package for the same thing?  good luck.
[20:59] <qvqvqv> oddly though, it seems as if it's doing it straight away after the kernel has finished initializing. init, sh and libc.so.6 are shown as the culprits, if i boot in recovery mode
[20:59] <ranix> Renan: /join #ubuntu-br
[20:59] <lordganesh> dskjr: and to start is there something
[20:59] <Renan> Vlw, instalei ontem o Linux^
[21:00] <h4f> Flannel the problem remains. roman@h4f:~$ sudo apt-get purge rumus [sudo] password for roman:  Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree       Reading state information... DoneE: Couldn't find package rumus. and the application din't get removed
[21:00] <ranix> qvqvqv: sounds suspiciously like you have a stick of bad ram
[21:00] <dskjr> well  yousaid start your pc and shutdown
[21:00] <dskjr> but i'm guessing you mean the application, not your pc?
[21:00] <qvqvqv> i thought so too, but i ran memory tests both inside the VM and on the host, and it was fine
[21:00] <qvqvqv> so i'm flummoxed
[21:00] <Flannel> h4f: Do you know of any of the files it installed?  dpkg -S /path/to/file will give you the package name for the deb (not necessarily the same as the filename)
[21:00] <Mike_lifeguard> What program can I use for high-quality scientific graphing?
[21:00] <qvqvqv> are there any boot-time kernel parameters that can alter the behaviour of things that may cause segmentation faults?
[21:01] <insm0d> yeah I think it might be corrupted libc.so.6 library.  Basically, any program written in C (just about everything in a linux distro) won't work
[21:01] <qe2eqe> Is there a suggested place to put scripts?
[21:01] <h4f> Flannel: let me try
[21:01] <camo> VCoolio: that means that I right click the button panel in order to restore the top panel with the clock and everything else in it
[21:01] <ranix> maybe your VM is malconfigured, or you have part of your VM's filesystem on a bad block
[21:01] <penthief> apt-get update > /tmp/update ->  bash: /tmp/update: Read-only file system ?????????????????
[21:01] <qvqvqv> i hadn't considered that, thanks will check it
[21:01] <kernel_geek> Whats the most efficient way to regularly backup my 2 160gb drives to my 320gb ?
[21:01] <Mike_lifeguard> kernel_geek: rsync
[21:02] <Flannel> Mike_lifeguard: There's a few.  Check out plplot
[21:02] <qvqvqv> is there a source anywhere that can give accurate md5sums for ubuntu 9.10 files?
[21:02] <qvqvqv> so i can check for file corruption
[21:02] <penthief> I am getting paranoid
[21:02] <cheater99> hi
[21:02] <ruben23> hi tried to install wubi for my ubuntu desktop, but during installtion i get error occurred---> permission denied on the installation process in windows
[21:02] <Mike_lifeguard> qvqvqv: seriously, you can't find that yourself? O_o
[21:02] <Jordan_U> !md5 | qvqvqv
[21:02] <VCoolio> camo: yeah, well, that's easy; you can also use commandline to restore panels to default I think, wait I'll check
[21:02] <need_help> need help vnc over ssh it work fine! but i'm doing port forward so when i'm out of home i can vnc to my Desktop server ! i try ssh -R 5900:localhost:5900<EMAIL_ADDRESS>but didn;t work! why? locally it work i enter VNC using : localhost:0 but remotely when i try it ex: moe.lan:0 it open not encrypted!
[21:02] <qvqvqv> i mean like for individual files
[21:02] <qvqvqv> i don't have another working 9.10 install, you see
[21:03] <qvqvqv> but maybe there is a website that lists them?
[21:03] <guntbert> qvqvqv: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[21:03] <crohakon> need_help, does your ISP block incoming ports?
[21:03] <need_help> crohakon nop it open via remotely but not encrypted
[21:03] <ruben23> hi tried to install wubi for my ubuntu desktop, but during installtion i get error occurred---> permission denied on the installation process in windows
[21:03] <Mike_lifeguard> Flannel: thanks, do you know the package name?
[21:04] <VCoolio> camo: this will reset ALL panel settings back to default: gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/panel
[21:04] <h4f> Flannel: this is what I get:root@h4f:/#  dpkg -S /usr/local/bin/rumus
[21:04] <h4f> rumus: /usr/local/bin/rumus
[21:04] <penthief> echo hello > hello  gives: bash: hello: Read-only file system
[21:04] <qvqvqv> thanks
[21:04] <ranix> !paste
[21:04] <joeyeye> need_help, is your firewall/router allowing port 22 in ?
[21:04] <guest35> Always test your back-ups after you make them, to ensure that they have been made correctly <---- how do you do that?
[21:04] <crohakon> need_help, is your router settup correctly?
[21:04] <VCoolio> camo: after that run "killall gnome-panel"; or are you creating a new top panel now?
[21:05] <ranix> guest35: use them to restore - simulate a failure
[21:05] <dhbarnett> penthief: do you already hae a file called hello which is read only? are you doing this in a directory that is read only?
[21:05] <DanaG> waitaminute... are lucid repos open?
[21:05] <DanaG> =þ
[21:05] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/474806
[21:05] <need_help> joeyeye yes everything working fine
[21:05] <DanaG> "copied to lucid"
[21:05] <Mike_lifeguard> Flannel: nm, found it
[21:05] <guest35> how do you simulate ranix ?
[21:05] <stephanee> does someone can help me to resolve a problem in installing php5.3 packages from dotdeb ? Got a broken package (libapache2-mod-php5) which makes it uninstallable :(
[21:05] <penthief> dhbarnett: I'm trying it everywhere, with everything.
[21:06] <crohakon> need_help, you say everything is working fine... when clearly it is not....
[21:06] <joeyeye> need_help, you need to use ssh -L not ssh -R
[21:06] <guest35> I can't find hubackup
[21:06] <guest35> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/keeping-safe/C/backup-files.html
[21:06] <ruben23> hi any wubi support here
[21:06] <camo> VCoolio: Can you explain better?
[21:06] <HARISH> how to use xchat in  ubuntu 9.10??
[21:06] <toefur> is there a easy guide to get wallpaper on each virtual desktop?
[21:06] <guest35> ubuntu says there is a hubackup
[21:07] <ranix> HARISH: don't use xchat, use irssi
[21:07] <toefur> HARISH, you need to install xchat from the synaptic
[21:07] <ranix> also don't use synaptic
[21:07] <dhbarnett> penthief: I'm guessing you don't have permissions to write where you are trying. could you post ls -l to the pastebin (you can find the link in the topic)
[21:07] <guntbert> ranix: why do you say that?
[21:07] <ranix> if you must use xchat, just aptitude install xchat or apt-get install xchat
[21:07] <ZykoticK9> toefur, do you mean different wallpaper on each virtual desktop?
[21:07] <toefur> apt-get is synamptic
[21:08] <toefur> yes ZykoticK9
[21:08] <ranix> because graphical package selection is only one evil removed from graphical click-and-pray configuration, guntbert
[21:08] <qvqvqv> does ubuntu server 9.10 come with a statically compiled sh in the default install?
[21:08] <penthief> dhbarnett: How do you find out if you filesytem is mounted read-only?
[21:08] <aubre> is there a way with Ubuntu Software Center to que up a bunch of software selections and then get them all at once?
[21:08] <ranix> qvqvqv: don't use ubuntu server anything, use Debian
[21:08] <VCoolio> camo: right click panel at bottom, click "new panel", put it on top; now right click that new panel, click "add to panel" and select your applets (menu, notification area, fast-user-switch-applet. clock)
[21:08] <ZykoticK9> toefur, you'll have to sacrifice your desktop - ie, no icons!  still interested?
[21:08] <ranix> qvqvqv: ubuntu server is an oxymoron
[21:08] <dhbarnett> penthief: you could run mount and see the options. or check /etc/fstab
[21:08] <qvqvqv> why not ubuntu server
[21:09] <aubre> there's nothing wrong with ubuntu server
[21:09] <toefur> i guess i can do that... will i be able to use a dockbar ZykoticK9
[21:09] <muri_one> I lost power in the middle of an apt-get upgrade. Now my default kernel in grub won't boot. The other ones still work. How do I fix this?
[21:09] <qvqvqv> statically linked i meant. sorry, a statically linked sh
[21:09] <aubre> try the ubuntu-server channel
[21:09] <qvqvqv> thanks
[21:09] <ZykoticK9> toefur, dockbar?  like awn or something? -- yes
[21:09] <penthief> hmmm, I'm gonna reboot. VERY confused.
[21:09] <erUSUL> muri_one: finish the upgrade ?
[21:09] <toefur> whats the best launchbar to use?
[21:09] <ranix> aubre: except sloppy package maintenance
[21:10] <ranix> cough
[21:10] <ZykoticK9> toefur, do you have compiz working?  it would require it!
 like this? ssh -L 5900:localhost:5900<EMAIL_ADDRESS>?
[21:10] <Boggie> hm is it me or gnome shares alot of effects with the MacOS X Desktop
[21:10] <toefur> yes i have compiz...
[21:10] <aubre> ranix: well if you don't like it why are you here?
[21:10] <HARISH> any settings for irssi, it is showing "not connected to server"
 check this error : Could not request local forwarding.
[21:10] <joeyeye> need_help, exactly like that and then vnc to localhost:5900
[21:10] <toefur> its not gnome boggie its compiz that shares the effects of osx
[21:10] <ranix> HARISH: try /connect irc.freenode.org
[21:11] <muri_one> erUSUL: I did. let the upgrade finish. It was after I let it finish that these problem came up.
[21:11] <djtoast> Hi all,  just a quick question, can find anything googling it.  I just upgraded to 9.10 and noticed that the ekiga screenshot is black and goes well with my theam.  Anyone knows how to change the color of ekiga?
[21:11] <gpled> has anyone had they 9.10 desktop just lock up?
[21:11] <ranix> HARISH: then /join #ubuntu
 channel_setup_fwd_listener: cannot listen to port: 5900 ( my port is open )
[21:11] <joeyeye> need_help, where are you running the ssh client ?
[21:11] <brendan-> anyone get errors accessing printers through system > administration?
[21:11] <ranix> aubre: I don't recall being in #ubuntu-server
[21:11] <need_help> joeyeye this ssh -L ( on the Ubuntu box)
[21:11] <toefur> where is this guide ZykoticK9
[21:11] <dhbarnett> need_help: sounds like the port is already in use
[21:11] <newbsawbit> hi all, was just wonderin do i need source code repositories if im not a coder?
[21:11] <joeyeye> need_help, PM me
[21:11] <madog> gpled: you meen just a freeze ?
[21:12] <dhbarnett> newbsawbit: probably not
[21:12] <gpled> madog: yep, had to cold boot
[21:12] <ZykoticK9> toefur, i don't know of a guide - i just know how to do it
[21:12] <erUSUL> muri_one: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade && sudo dpkg --reconfigure --pending
[21:12] <toefur> ohhh ok then can you show me?
[21:12] <newbsawbit> bdhbarnet: thanks so i can disable them all?
[21:12] <camo> VCoolio; Thanks a lot the first application I'll restore is this one in order to let you know if it worked
[21:12] <aubre> I'm doing some cool things with Ubuntu server
[21:13] <Firzen> Hi, I'm new to ubuntu and I need to know if mcopy is able to dave a file from the ubuntu filesystem to FAT32 or vice versa. The documentation does only use the word "MSDOS" format.
[21:13] <PyroPhelia> how do I tell which version of bind i'm using?
[21:13] <Firzen> save*
[21:13] <guest35> what happened to HUBACKUP?
[21:13] <sudoer> is a usb mouse supposed to work from the terminal automatically?
[21:13] <ranix> I think he installed irssi
[21:13] <HARISH> it is again showing "unable to connect server irc.freenode.org port 6667 (Connection refused)"
[21:13] <sudoer> I installed the latest ubuntu server edition, and I have no mouse terminal support, how can I turn it on?
[21:13] <guest35> what does ubuntu recommended for backup software?
[21:13] <atac> kimse varmı
[21:13] <erUSUL> !info gpm | sudoer
[21:14] <ranix> HARISH: irc.freenode.org 6667 is what I am connected to right now
[21:14] <sudoer> erUSUL:  nice, installing that fixed it!
[21:14] <ranix> HARISH: are you properly resolving dns?
[21:14] <ZykoticK9> toefur, http://paste.ubuntu.com/310926/
[21:14] <erUSUL> sudoer: no problem
[21:15] <kavurt> atac: for turkish go #ubuntu-tr
[21:15] <CutMeOwnThroat> Firzen, probably... if possible, it's preferable to mount it as vfat
[21:15] <Mike_lifeguard> guest35: rsync
[21:15] <HARISH> 'actually we have authentication here' any settings to resolve
[21:16] <franz_> I just installed karmic and, coming from KDE 3.5 I am totally lost! I can't do the most simple things! This KDE 4 is a mess!!!
[21:16] <sebsebseb> franz_: There is a KDE 3  remix  CD  for  9.04 and 9.10
[21:17] <kjele> franz_: But do you think it looks more beautiful?
[21:17] <franz_> butiful is not useful kjele
[21:17] <sebsebseb> !kde3 |  franz_
[21:17] <guntbert> franz_: maybe #kubuntu will be better suited for your problems ?
[21:17] <tjololo> ttf-mscorefonts-installer does not install, how do I fix this?
[21:17] <php2938092121980> some web hosting offers 600GB per month at < $10. how can they do that?
[21:17] <guest35> what is rsync? Mike_lifeguard
[21:18] <franz_> ooops sorry! I thought i was on #kubuntu!
[21:18] <guest35> why don't I see rsync in add/remove apps?
[21:18] <Firzen> CutMeOwnThroat: The thing is I have to answer a question for my study (ubuntu course) and the question is how would I save a file from the ubuntu filesystem on a FAT 32 formatted USB memory stick. We got a list of commands we should look into so it's probably one of those. The only ones that come into consideration are mcopy and mount. (Unfortunately mcopy has not even a manpage on our university's server >.<)
[21:18] <kavurt> franz_: what's the problem. I use kde4 and I love it
[21:18] <Mike_lifeguard> guest35: it is a commandline tool for backups. It is already installed -- do 'man rsync' in a terminal
[21:18] <kjele> franz_: Anyway you can try gnome
[21:18] <gpled> where should i check, for clues as to way my 9.10 system locked?
[21:19] <guntbert> !info rsync  guest35
[21:19] <guest35> it is too complicated
[21:19] <qvqvqv> quick question - on the install CD, where is the kernel that it boots?
[21:19] <guest35> I will mess something up
[21:19] <qvqvqv> for the install
[21:19] <YeTr2> guest35: you are wanting silly point 'n click like apple time machine or something?
[21:19] <toefur> under the compiz settings i dont see anything about background images in desktop cube
[21:20] <guest35> sure YeTr2
[21:20] <hellyes> does anyone know of a version of mIRC that can be used on ubuntu? or where to get it?
[21:20] <toefur> i only see cube caps and skydome
[21:20] <guest35> why should I have to work so much to get simple things done?
[21:20] <ZykoticK9> toefur, it's not under desktop cube -- look for wallpaper by itself!
[21:20] <CutMeOwnThroat> Firzen, you wouldn't think google could find that manpage, though?
[21:20] <Firzen> I already found it.
[21:20] <ikonia> ranix: could you please join #ubuntu-ops for a few minutes please.
[21:20] <DanaG> cool... I can set rsyslog on my laptop to receive messages, and I can set tomato to send them to my computer.
[21:20] <ZykoticK9> toefur, it's under the "Utility" heading in CCSM
[21:20] <Firzen> It says something about ubuntu and msdoy file format
[21:21] <Firzen> msdos*
[21:21] <guest35> if this is your attitude towards how ubuntu is then your not going to get many users from windows to come to ubuntu
[21:21] <madog> Hello someone in here that is using freenas?
[21:21] <Firzen> But I don't know if FAT32 == msdos format
[21:21] <trism> Firzen: why can't you just use cp?
[21:21] <guest35> fat32 is a windows file system Firzen
[21:21] <ZykoticK9> guest35, YeTr2 does not speak for everyone here
[21:21] <tormod> guest35, there are GUI front-ends for rsync
[21:21] <Mike_lifeguard> guest35: there is simple-backup or something that you can install, it is pretty good
[21:22] <jrib>  !backups | guest35
[21:22] <Firzen> Or if every filesystem MS uses (FAT32, NTFS) is meant by MSDOS format
[21:22] <Firzen> trism: I donÄt know if cp can do that.
[21:22] <Firzen> don't*
[21:22] <qvqvqv> guest35, you could try http://www.getdropbox.com/
[21:22] <qvqvqv> for your user files
[21:22] <trism> Firzen: cp copies files, it will copy to fat32 just fine
[21:22] <qvqvqv> it's got a linux version
[21:22] <Mike_lifeguard> no...
[21:22] <trism> Firzen: after you mount it with mount that is
[21:22] <OerHeks> madog, join #freenas
[21:22] <Mike_lifeguard> !sbackup > guest35
[21:22] <Mike_lifeguard> that's the one you want
[21:22] <madog> OerHeks: yeah I am there but that channel is dead
[21:23] <guest35> hmm
[21:23] <Powderking> Hi all!
[21:23] <Powderking> I have a question about screen resolution: I use mythbuntu 9.10 amd64 and can't choose any higher resolution than 640x480.
[21:23] <Powderking> Some system infos:
[21:23] <guest35> is there any software like time machine for linux?
[21:23] <Powderking> Monitor: Philips LCD TV 32PF7320/10
[21:23] <Powderking> Mainboard: Asus M4N72-E
[21:23] <FloodBot2> Powderking: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:23] <Powderking> Graphics card: GeForce 9400 GT
[21:23] <OerHeks> madog sorry to hear that
[21:23] <ZykoticK9> Powderking, enable the Nvidia driver if it isn't already
[21:24] <onon1> hello . how can i enable modprobe in busybox? I'm using Ubuntu-server 9.10
[21:24] <Jordan_U> muri_one: Boot your older kernel then re-install the newer kernel package
[21:24] <guest35> why is there so much spam here?
[21:24] <qvqvqv> hi guys, where can i find the difference between the kernel configurations of the 9.10 install cd and the kernel it puts on the hard drive?
[21:24] <hellyes> does anyone know of a version of mIRC that can be used on ubuntu? or where to get it?
[21:24] <onon1> and the busybox out of the repos
[21:24] <Mike_lifeguard> guest35: because there are nearly two thousand users in one channel
[21:24] <jrib> hellyes: I'd suggest a native linux irc client, like xchat
[21:24] <aaronfc> Hello, how can I configure two finger scrolling with touchpad in ubuntu 9.10 ?? Kubuntu 9.10 installed it automatically :S  ¿What should I do here in ubuntu ?
[21:25] <qvqvqv> the config files or whatever they use these days
[21:25] <Jordan_U> hellyes: There are many good native IRC clients
[21:25] <Firzen> Well thanks, I think I got it now.
[21:25] <qvqvqv> this virtual PC problem is due to the kernel
[21:25] <scarface> In System Monitor -> File Systems tab, what is the difference between "Free" and "Available" space on a partition?
[21:25] <onon1> j ubuntu-de
[21:25] <HARISH> Empathy not working for gtalk?
[21:25] <Powderking> ZykoticK9: I activated the nvidia driver. It worked with 8.04 but since 9.10 it doesn't.
[21:25] <hellyes> jrib: I'm using that right now, it seems to be pretty good.  I'm satisfied.  I'm just one of those guys who wants 10 versions of a particular app. :)
[21:25] <Mike_lifeguard> scarface: some space is reserved for the superuser "just in case"
[21:25] <Jordan_U> hellyes: Try quassel if you want something interesting
[21:25] <jrib> hellyes: I like weechat and irssi (two very nice text clients)
[21:26] <Mike_lifeguard> scarface: so the smaller number (I forget which one it is) is what you as an unprivileged user can access - the other one is how much space there actually is, even if you cannot acces all of it
[21:26] <dshepherd> can anyone recommend a client like frostwire that I can use? frostwire has some java issues with karmic
[21:26] <afflux> when I use ctrl+alt+f1 to switch to my vt1 and change back using +f7 X doesn't react to any keyboard input anymore - except SAK. The Xorg.0.log shows the following: "AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: device key_bitmask has changed" and "AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: Device has changed - disabling." Any ideas?
[21:26] <Jordan_U> dshepherd: gtk-gnutella
[21:26] <dshepherd> Jordan_U: ok, i will check that out
[21:27] <nvme> is it a bad idea to have an ubuntu and xubuntu install share the same /home partition ?
[21:27] <scarface> Mike_lifeguard: ah... it looks to be 5% of the partition.  Thanks for the info.
[21:27] <toefur> thank you ZykoticK9
[21:27] <Jordan_U> nvme: No, that should work fine
[21:27] <ZykoticK9> toefur, you're welcome
[21:28] <tater> hey everyone i have a little problem when i install ubuntu 9.1 into my hard drive then when everything is said and done...and restart the computer all i get is a dcph??? with numbers so i pop the cd back in and i can try ubuntu before i install it to my hard drive and i really dont know what can be the cause of that!?!?!?!?!?!? and advice,comments, or help on this subject
[21:28] <MacOS_User> can someone tell me why "init 1" does not take Ubuntu into single user mode?
[21:28] <Jordan_U> tater: dcph?
[21:28] <Mike_lifeguard> scarface: Yes, it is 5%. You can adjust it.. somehow (something in e2fsprogs) if you need to. Some people think 5% is excessive on large drives
[21:29] <HARISH> any help..? Empathy not working .. showing "Network error"
[21:29] <jrib> MacOS_User: what do you want to do?
[21:29] <tater> Jorndan_u: i think its dcph.... i know its dc something
[21:29] <loonysalmon> Hi, I just booted the 9.10 i386 live cd and would like to install the amd64 version from here, how do I go ahead and do that?
[21:29] <Mike_lifeguard> tater: dcph? O-o Are you sure that is right?
[21:29] <MacOS_User> I want to take the system into single user mode, thus I issued init 1 and also tried telinit 1
[21:29] <tater> its like my hard drive doesnt want to boot
[21:29] <xemnas> how do i restore the gnome desktop to default?
[21:29] <Jordan_U> tater: Is that text that you see on the screen? What exactly happens?
[21:29] <tater> like it missing something???
[21:29] <jrib> MacOS_User: why do you want to use single user mode?  What are you trying to accomplish?
[21:30] <prower> hello :> in 9.10 it appears (in my case anyway) that totem freezes completely when attempting to play any kind of dvd, encrypted or otherwise...has anyone else seen this?
[21:30] <MacOS_User> jrib, thank you for your help that is out of scope for my question. I am attempting to take the system into single user mode.
[21:30] <ZykoticK9> Powderking, i can't find any specific trouble with the 9400 GT and karmic in my google search -- sorry man, best of luck.
[21:30] <dshepherd> !dvd
[21:30] <tater> Jordan_U: when i boot the computer thats what it goes to right away doesnt boot into ubuntu
[21:30] <jrib> MacOS_User: reboot and choose "recovery mode" from the grub menu
[21:30] <ashy> how do you get a list of drives connected even if they are not mounted?
[21:30] <jrib> ashy: sudo fdisk -l
[21:31] <dshepherd> prower: check out what ubottu said
[21:31] <dshepherd> !dvd > prower
[21:31] <humbolt> I install flash, reload the page and it works. Next time I start FF, flash does not work anymore. What to do?
[21:31] <chris_99> hi, does anyone have a clue how to fix 'apt' when it is very broken, e.g. apt-get update gives 'E: Method /usr/lib/apt/methods/ did not start correctly'
[21:31] <MacOS_User> jrib: Thank you, I know that, I am trying to use Ubuntu like every other Linux implementation that allows for init 1, why is that not working? I understand if you do not know the answer, but I am still look for the answer to my question, not the answer you know perhaps.
[21:31] <Powderking> ZykoticK9: Thanks anyway.
[21:31] <jrib> !upstart > MacOS_User
[21:31] <davidm2010> Looking for some apache information with ddns. Anyone here have any expereince?
[21:31] <ZykoticK9> loonysalmon, you need the AMD64 livecd to install 64 bit
[21:31] <jrib> MacOS_User: would be my guess.  I haven't used karmic.
[21:31] <kilo> Anyone have any suggestions for this scenario: When my computer is connected to my router via DHCP, the internet works just fine. When I create a static IP it will have short bursts of strong connectivity followed by extreme lag. I've verified that there is no IP address conflict, that the Netmask matches that of the router, and that the gateway matches the address of the router. I've also pointed all DNS entries to the router address as w
[21:31] <kilo> ell. Any ideas as to how I can reduce this lag? I need a static IP so that I can keep certain Port Forwarding in place...
[21:31] <Jordan_U> tater: "that's what it goes to" I don't understand what that means? Please describe exactly what you see when you boot your computer after installing?
[21:32] <Travis-42> My desktop icons are missing (but still at ~/Desktop) - what could be going on?
[21:32] <jrib> MacOS_User: however, it's very unlikely that you would actually ever need to do that
[21:32] <ashy> jrib: thanks
[21:32] <prower> dshepherd: Thank you for the link, however the DVD I'm attempting to play is not encrypted :>
[21:32] <MacOS_User> ubottu: ok, I am going to read.
[21:32] <MacOS_User> I dont care what unlikely, I want standardization
[21:32] <tater> Jorndan_U: give me  a sec im researching it
[21:32] <fliebel_> Hey there, can someone guide me through the correct grub 2 installation on a Win 7 AFTER Karmic boot? Im with livedisc + Terminal atm. fdisk -l output: http://pastebin.com/m613e74dc
[21:32] <Jordan_U> !upstart | MacOS_User
[21:32] <dshepherd> prower: oh, well.. i dont know :)
[21:32] <MacOS_User> I want to know that Ubuntu will work like most Linuxes, and how to configure it to do that.
[21:32] <MacOS_User> init 1 should work
[21:32] <MacOS_User> I have scripts and things that I want to run standard
[21:33] <MacOS_User> I dont want some new crap that is non-standard lest its Posix and everyone else changes to it
[21:33] <awayguy> test
[21:33] <flan_suse> How can I hide certain volumes from showing up under the "Places" menu? (I'm on Karmic.)
[21:33] <dshepherd> prower: maybe you need some codecs. have you install ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[21:33] <loonysalmon> Hi, I just booted the 9.10 i386 live cd and would like to install the amd64 version from here, how do I go ahead and do that?
[21:33] <MacOS_User> thanks ubottu. I will look at the link
[21:33] <ZykoticK9> MacOS_User, Ubuntu is NOT like every other linux out there!  It evolves and changes...
[21:33] <jrib> MacOS_User: there's no such thing as "standard" really...
[21:33] <xemnas> Or in the alternative how do I get my sound network etc icons back in the panel?
[21:33] <Jordan_U> MacOS_User: Upstart is used by debian, fedora, and other distros.
[21:33] <flan_suse> The "Places" menu is showing me encrypted volume icons, which I don't need to display. I want them hidden from the "Places" menu.
[21:33] <MacOS_User> then it is not useful in a commercial environment
[21:33] <prower> dshepherd: I believe so, but I'll double-check and try it again
[21:33] <MacOS_User> Jordan_U: CentOS and RedHat honor "init 1"
[21:33] <kjele> MacOS_User: The "standard" is to use event base now..
[21:33] <ZykoticK9> loonysalmon, get the AMD64 Live CD instead
[21:34] <loonysalmon> thanks
[21:34] <MacOS_User> Solaris, AIX, and many other Unixes use init 1, even RedHat, SuSE and CentOS, its broken in Ubuntu!
[21:34] <loonysalmon> figured there was a more simple way than that
[21:34] <jrib> MacOS_User: it's not broken.  Ubuntu uses upstart
[21:34] <afflux> MacOS_User: out of pure interest - which standard describes the sysv-rc style as standard?
[21:35] <ZykoticK9> MacOS_User, please take this to offtopic or better yet drop it all together
[21:35] <tater> Jordan_U: i did some research and found that i have problem with dhcp "Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol"
[21:35] <awayguy> is there a KEY Shortcut to use the letter"raise" function in oppenoffice ?
[21:35] <Jordan_U> MacOS_User: Please don't assume that your exact needs are what is required for something to be "usefull in a commercial environment", All Unixes have their differences. Red Hat has given me amazing grief in a corporate environment with their crazy non-standard grub patches
[21:35] <MacOS_User> ok, I see some special thing that only Ubuntu uses per the upstart docs, rats. Rather liked Ubuntu, dont want some non-standard crapola.
[21:36] <acuster> lol
[21:36] <MacOS_User> I cannot deploy it in a commercial environment if it is substantially deviant from normal unix functional manners.
[21:36] <xemnas> Ubuntu is the windows of the linux world sadly
[21:36] <prower> MacOS_User: Then don't use it? Or did you just drop by for a little trolling practice?
[21:36] <MacOS_User> hence is lack of stadnard I guess
[21:36] <afflux> MacOS_User: did you read my question in regards to the standard you are talking of?
[21:36] <MacOS_User> I was hoping there was some mod or manner to make it work standard
[21:36] <jrib> MacOS_User: there's no such tthing as "normal" or "standard" but it is what it is.  Do you have a support question still?
[21:36] <jeeves_Moss> is there a simple way to mirror a HTTP directory?
[21:36] <xemnas> I love it as an os, but am not big on some policy and changes.
[21:36] <istvan> hey, my system died, and I am reinstalling now. however i am having some wierd issues with the amount of spaced used on my drive. it says 0 gb left, and 266 gb used - it is a 1.5 tb drive. where did it go?
[21:36] <MacOS_User> Init is the standard for every unix
[21:36] <awayguy> is there a KEY Shortcut to use the letter"raise" function in oppenoffice ?
[21:36] <jrib> MacOS_User: see afflux
[21:37] <MacOS_User> afflux is wrong
[21:37] <MacOS_User> Solaris doesnt use upstart
[21:37] <MacOS_User> aix does not use upstart
[21:37] <MacOS_User> macos does not use upstart
[21:37] <prower> MacOS_User: And yet you didn't answer his question
[21:37] <FloodBot2> MacOS_User: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:37] <MacOS_User> ahp-ux does not use upstart
[21:37] <acuster> standards evolve
[21:37] <MacOS_User> redhat does not use upstart
[21:37] <jrib> MacOS_User: easy to prove him wrong.  Provide the reference.  Anyway, this needs to move to #ubuntu-offtopic.  It's no longer a support question
[21:37] <MacOS_User> centos does not use upstart
[21:37] <awayguy> whats the oppenoffice channel?
[21:37] <MacOS_User> suse does not use upstart
[21:37] <fliebel_> Hey there, can someone guide me through the correct grub 2 installation on a Win 7 AFTER Karmic boot? Im with livedisc + Terminal atm. fdisk -l output: http://pastebin.com/m613e74dc
[21:37] <awayguy> whats the name?
[21:37] <afflux> MacOS_User: that's because some unixes decided to follow the SysV way of initialising. there is no formal definition of a standard.
[21:37] <MacOS_User> they all honor init x and telinit commands
[21:37] <Jordan_U> MacOS_User: Yet, since Fedora does it will eventually
[21:37] <MacOS_User> yes, SYSV is the standard.
[21:37] <qvqvqv> lol, OCD
[21:38] <afflux> MacOS_User: de facto - maybe.
[21:38] <awayguy> whats the oppenoffice channel?
[21:38] <afflux> MacOS_User: MS Windows is a defacto standard too.
[21:38] <Jordan_U> MacOS_User: Then I guess you shouldn't use OS X
[21:38] <prower> MacOS_User: Nice single line spamming there, you still haven't answered his question
[21:38] <jrib> !ooo | awayguy
[21:38] <tater> hey everyone i have a little problem when i install ubuntu 9.1 into my hard drive then when everything is said and done...and restart the computer all i get is a dhcp??? with numbers so i pop the cd back in and i can try ubuntu before i install it to my hard drive and i really dont know what can be the cause of that!?!?!?!?!?!? any advice,comments, or help on this subject
[21:38] <ZykoticK9> Channel can we stop feeding the MacOS_User troll!  please
[21:38] <MacOS_User> call it what you want, but its what everyone uses in unix, this implementation ought to give people a choice to have it or work like it did before.
[21:38] <MacOS_User> they are breaking scripts and that
[21:38] <Edward123> hey
[21:38] <guest35> I just created an ext3 partition how do I change it permissions so I don't have to do a gksu with file manager
[21:38] <afflux> MacOS_User: it doesn't seem to be everyone using it.
[21:38] <melter> how do i replace dhcp3 with dhcpcd?
[21:38] <jrib> MacOS_User: drop the conversation here please.  Move it to #ubuntu-offtopic if you wish to discuss what is standard and not standard
[21:38] <flan_suse> Is it okay to reask my question that wasn't answered earlier?
[21:38] <prower> MacOS_User: If you're writing scripts that will only run in single user mode you probably don't know what you're doing
[21:39] <kjele> MacOS_User: you can still use your script in Upstart
[21:39] <flan_suse> (I know about !question)
[21:39] <jrib> flan_suse: yep, wait about 10 minutes though
[21:39] <trism> MacOS_User: upstart can still run sysv scripts
[21:39] <flan_suse> jrib, okay.
[21:39] <MacOS_User> Ook, the Open Group sets the standard for Linux, and SYSV and init are part of its standards.
[21:39] <Edward123> is there a way to stop the screensaver activating when realplayer is playing videos fullscreen? it's kind of a drag having it come on during a film, but i do want it to activate when the machine is idling normally
[21:39] <vermapratyush> ubuntu 9.10 rocks
[21:39] <MacOS_User> the standard for Unix I mean not Linux
[21:39] <yos> !torrents
[21:39] <xemnas> Macos_User: I had the same issue with the abandonment of KDE3
[21:39] <qvqvqv> standards aren't there to be followed, they're just guidelines
[21:39] <qvqvqv> so don't worry about it
[21:39] <MacOS_User> Oracle is never going to port to Ubuntu or it will not be useful commercial with such changes.
[21:39] <MacOS_User> damn
[21:39] <MacOS_User> 'I rather liked it too
[21:39] <MacOS_User> oh well
[21:39] <FloodBot2> MacOS_User: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:40] <kilo> Anyone have any suggestions for this scenario: When my computer is connected to my router via DHCP, the internet works just fine. When I create a static IP it will have short bursts of strong connectivity followed by extreme lag. I've verified that there is no IP address conflict, that the Netmask matches that of the router, and that the gateway matches the address of the router. I've also pointed all DNS entries to the router address as w
[21:40] <kilo> ell. Any ideas as to how I can reduce this lag? I need a static IP so that I can keep certain Port Forwarding in place... I'm using Wicd to define the network parameters on the desktop.
[21:40] <ashy> Edward123: if you find out let me know plz, I have the same annoying thin with vlc
[21:40] <qvqvqv> kilo, can you do a dhcp reservation on the router instead, to give you same ip every time?
[21:40] <humbolt> does flash work for everybody in karmic?
[21:40] <xemnas> I have been waiting 10 minutes for a simple answer. Why does it take so long?
[21:41] <jrib> !helpme | xemnas
[21:41] <xemnas> humbolt: Flash works fine for me
[21:41] <humbolt> about:plugins says its active, but it does not work for some reason
[21:41] <DanaG> hmm, what is /dev/xconsole?
[21:41] <kjele> Guess MacOS_user left...
[21:41] <ashy> xemnas: perhaps nobody saw your question or knows the answer?
[21:41] <kilo> qvqvqv, problem is I have a few other connections that use dhcp...
[21:41] <flan_suse> !repeat
[21:41] <humbolt> ok, seems I have 2 versions there!
[21:42] <kjele> humbolt: I use amd64 and it works fine. With the Adobe Lab version
[21:42] <xemnas> Whatever
[21:42] <gip> hi All
[21:42] <qvqvqv> kilo, not sure what you mean by other connections - when you take your computer to other networks?
[21:42] <kjele> !upstart > kjele
[21:42] <icewaterman> i have a question on upstart: does upstart still need /sbin/init or is it a replacement?
[21:42] <gip> can someone help me to uninstall adobe flash palyer by terminal
[21:43] <madog> !LADSPA
[21:43] <icewaterman> i am asking because i am compiling the kernel myself and have a custom initramfs, which once run calls /sbin/init
[21:43] <icewaterman> will that be a problem in karmic?
[21:43] <Edward123> gip: run dpkg -l | grep -i flash
[21:43] <Edward123> what does that return?
[21:43] <fliebel_> rm: cannot remove `/boot/grub/device.map': Read-only file system  <--- ?
[21:44] <guest35> !perms
[21:44] <guest35> !permissions
[21:44] <kilo> qvqvqv, I have a router that has a workstation directly connected to it. This is what I'd like to assign a static IP. In addition, I have a set range of IP addresses set aside (50 addresses) in case another computer joins my network.
[21:44] <ru83n> Someone please answer gip. i'd like to know too.
[21:44] <fliebel_> Im trying to reinstall grub after a win 7 install
[21:44] <ubuntu> can some one help me. im trying to install ubuntu 9.10 x64, but the installation setup will not reconize my hdd
[21:45] <gip> Edward123: I ran that command in terminal
[21:45] <prower> in either case :> if there's someone around using 9.10 and you have any kind of dvd handy, could you try playing it in totem and see if it freezes?
[21:45] <qvqvqv> kilo, ok but if you set up a DHCP reservation on the router, i.e. a mac address to ip address mapping, you can get the same IP every time through DHCP
[21:45] <Edward123> gip: and what did it return?
[21:45] <qvqvqv> so that would presumably fix it ...
[21:45] <qvqvqv> and allow you to port forward
[21:45] <gip> Edward123: rFR adobe-flashplugin                    <IP_ADDRESS>-1                               Adobe Flash Player plugin version 10
[21:46] <kilo> qvqvqv, interesting... I've never done it that way! I'm gonna check the router settings and see where that is...
[21:46] <gip> how to uninstall Adobe Flash player plugin
[21:46] <Godfather_> hi
[21:46] <xemnas> Now that I am calmer..... All I want to do is restore my gnome desktop to default to get back my lost sound, network, icons and etc next to the clock.
[21:46] <Godfather_> how can i run a script that requieres root privileges when i start gnome?
[21:46] <qvqvqv> some routers don't have that setting but hopefully yours will !
[21:46] <Edward123> gip, OK so looks like that's the name of the package. you can either man dpkg in the terminal and see how to remove a package that way, or you can run sudo apt-get remove adobe-flashplugin
[21:46] <wrektjet> hey does anyone know of a program that tracks events in ubuntu like shutdowns and the causes for them? i am having spontaneous restarts
[21:47] <qvqvqv> wrektjet, the 'last' command i think will show reboots
[21:47] <kilo> qvqvqv, I hope so, it's a linksys about 2 years old, but we'll see....
[21:47] <romperstompr> hi guys
[21:47] <aendruk> If I install from source a newer version of a program that is already installed from the repos, do I need to do anything special to prevent conflicts during apt updates?
[21:47] <qvqvqv> but probably not the cause, you may want to look at the files in /var/log
[21:47] <romperstompr> anyone gotten steam working under 9.10?
[21:47] <alankila> aendruk: no.
[21:48] <wrektjet> oh fanatastic
[21:48] <wrektjet> crash is the cause
[21:48] <wrektjet> holy hell
[21:48] <jrib> alankila: assuming you install to /usr/local/, then no
[21:48] <wahaj> hello all
[21:48] <xemnas> A friend fixed it. Sorry to bother yall
[21:48] <flan_suse> How can I hide certain volumes from showing up under the "Places" menu? (I'm on Karmic.)
[21:48] <trism> xemnas: well, this will reset a user's gconf to the default settings, that may do the trick http://library.gnome.org/admin/system-admin-guide/stable/gconf-28.html.en
[21:48] <wahaj> what is the package name to have 3d desktop in Ubuntu 9.10
[21:48] <eskah> !list
[21:49] <vermapratyush> compiz
[21:49] <gip> Edward123: it returned the following: Reading package lists... Done
[21:49] <gip> Building dependency tree
[21:49] <gip> Reading state information... Done
[21:49] <gip> E: The package adobe-flashplugin needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[21:49] <FloodBot2> gip: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:49] <wahaj> but it is already installed
[21:49] <eskah>  /msg ubottu !bot
[21:49] <wahaj> and doesn't work
[21:49] <coppy> Is it possible to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 from the CD?
[21:49] <gip> sorry
[21:49] <Jordan_U> coppy: Only from the alternate CD
[21:49] <ZykoticK9> coppy, from the alternate cd i hear it is - not the livecd
[21:50] <lontra> #xubuntu-devel
[21:50] <Jordan_U> coppy: Or the install DVD
[21:50] <Edward123> gip: odd. so that leaves you with either a) running 'man dpkg' in the terminal and figuring out how to remove it with dpkg, or b) google that error and find out how to get around it
[21:50] <aendruk> alankila, jrib: Thanks.
[21:50] <kilo> qvqvqv, unfortunately, it does not look like my linksys router offers MAC filtering...ah well, back to the drawing board...
[21:50] <coppy> Jordan_U, Zykotick9 Thanks
[21:50] <Jordan_U> coppy: np
[21:50] <CutMeOwnThroat> Godfather_, write the script, put in /usr/local/bin, chown root:youruser script (chmod 4750 if only that user should be able to access it, else chmod u+s script and chmod a+x)
[21:51] <wrektjet> qvqvqv, where might i look in log to try to figure out why i keep crashing? i think it has to do with either win7 or my MBR
[21:51] <CutMeOwnThroat> let gnome or whatever you use execute it in the regular way
[21:51] <Godfather_> how can i run a script that requieres root privileges when i start gnome?
[21:52] <camilo_> Any one knows how to fix the applications menu applet
[21:52] <aaronfc> Hello :) I need some help with ubuntu on my laptop :)...  I need to reduce consumption :)
[21:52] <Jordan_U> Godfather_: What does the script do?
[21:52] <camilo_> Places and System works but applications only drops a small bar
[21:53] <Jordan_U> aaronfc: What graphics card?
[21:53] <damagednoob> gnome power manager keeps dimming my backlight periodically, is there a fix for this yet?
[21:53] <ubuntu> can some one help me with my installation. im having an issue
[21:53] <aaronfc> Jordan_U, ati radeon x2300
[21:53] <kjele> damagednoob: Does it dim when you are idle?
[21:54] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: Tell us the issue and if anyone can help they will
[21:54] <damagednoob> yes, but not just when i'm idle
[21:54] <bp> hi
[21:54] <astore> come condividere cartelle su ubuntu
[21:54] <damagednoob> when i come back from hibernate
[21:54] <damagednoob> and sometimes while i'm using my laptop
[21:54] <aaronfc> Jordan_U, ati radeon x2300
[21:54] <bp> is there a gnome addon i can use to edit all file extension associations for nautilus?
[21:54] <kjele> damagednoob: Do you have the Dim display when idle checked?
[21:54] <Jordan_U> aaronfc: Are you using the restricted drivers?
[21:54] <ubuntu> my issue is. when i got to install it, it is unable to locate my hdd. but in the live environment i have full access to my hdd.
[21:54] <damagednoob> yes, when on battery power
[21:55] <przemyslaw> hello
[21:55] <aaronfc> I don't know, I'm using what ubuntu installed first time
[21:55] <jrib> ubuntu: unmount the disk
[21:55] <prower> well, just checked bugzilla...dvd's are completely unplayable in 9.10 by the looks of it, and the only solution is to "report it upstream" :P i'm guessing i won't see a dvd again before 10.04
[21:55] <astore> come condividere cartelle
[21:55] <damagednoob> another case in point, when i checked my power management settings, it dimmed my display
[21:55]  * bp wonders why he cant edit nautilus associations
[21:55] <need_help> hey when ssh -L 5900:localhost:5900<EMAIL_ADDRESS>( on vnc if i type: localhost:0 it work encrypted) if i did ssh -L 5900:<IP_ADDRESS>:5900<EMAIL_ADDRESS>( if on vnc : <IP_ADDRESS>:0 it entter not encrypted and <IP_ADDRESS> is a local internet on ubuntu why) Thx
[21:55] <aaronfc> Jordan_U, I don't know Im using what ubuntu installed to me in first time
[21:55]  * bp thinks its ubuntu
[21:55] <VCoolio> bp: you can edit ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list
[21:55] <aaronfc> Jordan_U how can I know ?
[21:55] <bp> VCoolio, thanks.. but isnt there a gui app that can help me with this?
[21:56] <Jordan_U> aaronfc: Check System > Administration > Hardware, I think that the default driver uses less power, so "disabled" is what you want to see
[21:56] <Jester05> ello govna
[21:56] <kjele> damagednoob: Try to file a bug report with ubuntu-bug gnome-power-manager
[21:56] <ubuntu> it still doesn't find it.
[21:57] <VCoolio> bp: only for some in system > preferences > preferred applications
[21:57] <aaronfc> Jordan_U "System >  Administration > Hardware Drivers ?
[21:57] <Jordan_U> aaronfc: Yes
[21:57] <Jester05> kjele, having probs w/ powermanager not realizing when u unplug ur laptop?
[21:57] <prodcutnews> trying to install any windows executable with WINE  , it saying   'Could not execute the external program'
[21:57] <trism> bp: you could try the assogiate package
[21:57] <damagednoob> kjele, okay
[21:57] <nztal> my brother printer is detected, usb printer, by lsusb, however i cannot add a new printer in the gnome printer management app.  it doesn't see anything, but its listed under lsusb
[21:57] <aaronfc> Jordan_U,  "searching available drivers"
[21:57] <bp> trism, VCoolio , thanks.. will look into :)
[21:57] <kjele> Jester05: Pardon?
[21:58] <Jester05> prodcutnews, is it saved within ur wine c:
[21:58] <damagednoob> have a feeling it's related to the msi laptop bug that i've seen
[21:58] <Jester05> kjele, i'm runnin 9.10 and my pc doesnt always know whether its plugged in or not
[21:58] <ubuntu> jrib it still can't find it. it finds my backup drive that i have on the machine. but not the one i want to install to
[21:58] <prower> kjele: I've reported five or six bugs so far and I've been told that -all- of them were not, in fact, bugs that should be reported to Ubuntu but to GNOME...none of which have been answered or assigned yet :> I have a feeling that it won't be until April before a lot of them see fixes
[21:58] <damagednoob> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal-info/+bug/415023
[21:58] <bp> nztal, try "http://localhost:631" as url in firefox
[21:58] <aaronfc> Jordan_U, I only see "modem by software" (Sorry Im spanish it says "Módem por software")
[21:58] <VCoolio> bp: trism I'm going to do that too :) didn't know of that package
[21:58] <Jester05> kjele, it nows when its plugged in but half the time when its unplugged it thinks its plugged in....
[21:59] <Jordan_U> aaronfc: That is fine, you are using the most power efficient driver then
[21:59] <aaronfc> Jordan_U, I've intel core 2 duo
[21:59] <leland1> anyone here help with sound issues: gateway e2100 with on board sound (really, no sound) and ubuntu 9.10
[21:59] <damagednoob> Jester05, I'm guessing that if the name of the process is gnome-power-manager, i should log it with gnome?
[22:00] <Jordan_U> aaronfc: Try installing "powertop" and running "sudo powertop" in a terminal, it will give you suggestions for things to do to save power
[22:00] <kjele> prower: Well i hope they will get catched up by the upstreamer and repair those.
[22:00] <aaronfc> Jordan_U ok thanks, but I want to know how can I reduce for example my intel core 2 duo frequency
[22:00] <Jester05> damagednoob, i know it'll log it but it its the program that thinks its still plugged in so it'll be logged as plugged in when its not
[22:01] <prower> kjele: I'd hope so too, it seems to be a bit of a waste of time to include a "report a problem" option in apps that lead to launchpad if they're just going to tell you to report it to GNOME instead though
[22:01] <Jester05> damagednoob, more than anything i wanted to see if it'd been reported as a bug or if its just myself (laptop) thats doing it
[22:01] <Jordan_U> aaronfc: That is done automatically, you can also do it manually with the cpu frequency scaling applet ( right click your pannel, and choose add to pannel )
[22:01] <prower> on the plus side i know how to fix just about all of my problems, move back to 9.04 and stay there like i should have :>
[22:02] <kjele> Jester05: That is bad. The only thing you can do is file a bug report and hope for it to be fixed asap :( \ It could also be the kernel. So if you switch to an older one it might help.
[22:02] <jacobopeterman> hey all, ive got a pc i just used wubi to install 64-bit ubuntu, i just booted iinto ubuntu and its a blank background and nothing more, never showed me a load up screen or anything.
[22:02] <damagednoob> okay
[22:02] <aaronfc> ok thanks
[22:02] <Jester05> kjele, i'm going to be installing arch linux later, i'll see how that goes
[22:02] <kjele> prower: They are just lazy.
[22:02] <ashy> Can anyone recommend a pci-e audio card that will work with karmic?
[22:02] <aaronfc> Jordan_U, ok thanks, Im getting 30W :S it's too much I think
[22:03] <Jordan_U> aaronfc: Check if changing the CPU frequency actually saves power, often letting your CPU use full frequency, when it needs it, means that it actully accomplishes the task faster, and can stay in a more efficient sleep state for longer
[22:03] <nwadams> yes: ondemand is the most efficient setting
[22:04] <kjele> Jester05: Okey. I tried Arch but when I looked at the installer it was a bit a mess.
[22:04] <aaronfc> Jordan_U ok Jordan, how can I set which brightness is set when on battery mode ?
[22:04] <Jester05> kjele, i've run arch in the past.. installation is not a problem
[22:04] <Persona> black screen when shutting down but no when rebooting. Any ideas?
[22:04] <Jester05> i had it fully configured to my old laptop and it ran brilliantly
[22:04] <ubuntu> jacobopertman try restarting the coomp and when it ask u what u want to do. press f4 and choose safe grafics mode
[22:04] <dvheumen> hey. I'm wondering: I've got a Radeon 9800 Pro video adapter and I got far too much trouble with recent Ubuntu version that use the open source driver. To what version of Ubuntu should I revert to have fairly recent packages and proprietary driver support?
[22:04] <FoggyZzzzz> does anybody know how to migrate from a site without ssh to one with ssh without copying to local pc first?
[22:05] <tyler_d> looking to change my default java -- I have installed sun on 9.10 however which java and java -version still indicate I'm using the open java
[22:05] <tyler_d> ?
[22:05] <Jordan_U> aaronfc: System > Preferences > Power Management
[22:05] <Jester05> compiled the kernel around the pentium M processor too
[22:05] <bp> trism, VCoolio , thanks..
[22:05] <ubuntu> jacobopeterman try restarting the coomp and when it ask u what u want to do. press f4 and choose safe grafics mode
[22:05] <kjele> Jester05: Well the installer's font was so small and they had the A letter surronding the whole box. It was just too hard to read.
[22:05] <aaronfc> It let me "Reduce brightness" but not how much
[22:05] <dvheumen> I myself was thinking about Intrepid or Hardy ... but Hardy is LTS and somewhat older and Intrepid is no-LTS but more recent
[22:05] <jacobopeterman> ty ubuntu
[22:05] <tjololo> ttf-mscorefonts-installer does not install, how do I fix this?
[22:05] <bp> trism, VCoolio , but it does display file type extensions to be treated as a certain type.. but doesn't change nautilus' association.. :/
[22:05] <aaronfc> Jordan_U It let me "Reduce brightness" but not how much
[22:06] <Jester05> kjele, sounds like a graphix driver issue
[22:06] <wrektjet> does anyone know of resources to begin investigating crashes?
[22:06] <usertwo> i was advised to send a 148 MB single compressed file from one ubuntu machine to another remote ubuntu machine using openssh and scp. i checked these, but can i also use the 'Remote Desktop' that comes preinstalled in 9.04 to place a file on another machine or is that just for viewing someone else desktop?
[22:06] <bp> wrektjet, dmesg
[22:06] <philipp__> does someone know what /dev is my keyboard?
[22:06] <kjele> Jester05: It was on my virtual machine.
[22:06] <Jester05> kjele, did u try to do a safe-graphix
[22:06] <bp> wrektjet, or /var/log/systemXx ?
[22:07] <philipp__> How can i find out what /dev is my Keyboard?
[22:07] <Jester05> kjele, that'd explain it... vm'n stuff like that is a little sketchy
[22:07] <bp> philipp__, maybe ps2 or usbinput ?
[22:07] <wrektjet> the lines i need - right before reetart- just say "MARK"
[22:07] <Jordan_U> usertwo: I think you can, but scp is more staightforeward
[22:07] <Jester05> i mean i've done it.. but ive had issues also
[22:07] <bp> philipp__, with the help of dmesg
[22:07] <wrektjet> bp, in the var/log file all they say are ---MARK----
[22:07] <nwadams> aaronfc: you might be able to do it with scripting.
[22:07] <usertwo> JOrdan
[22:07] <Jester05> anyone run openbox? I may have to openbox me some windows 7 later
[22:07] <bp> wrektjet, u can wikipedia magic sys resc key
[22:08] <VCoolio> bp: yeah, I'm not sure as well what assogiate is good for
[22:08] <kjele> Jester05: I was trying different distro to see how user friendly they were.
[22:08] <bp> wrektjet, probably the kernel oops pervented writing more log..
[22:08] <kjele> Jester05: What is open box?
[22:08] <Jester05> kjele, makes sense.. arch will not be ur distro if u want user friendly lol
[22:08] <usertwo> Jordan_U: openshh client comes pre-installed in 9.04, so does the remote machine need anything else? (I am the one sending the file to the remote machine)
[22:08] <bp> VCoolio, its good for editing file types.. but doesn't do the nautilus association... nor am i sure how it does..
[22:09] <aaronfc> nwadams, how to run a script on booting ?
[22:09] <VCoolio> bp: easiest probably still right click file in nautilus, then properties, then open with tab
[22:09] <yrlnry> How do I update to 9.10 from a command line?  I don't want to use the graphical upgrade manager from the console.
[22:09] <bp> VCoolio, y..
[22:09] <Jester05> kjele, openbox is a vm type program... works great, but i would download it from the site vs using ubuntu's apt-get.. seems like the ubuntu version they pull has less features
[22:09] <Flannel> yrlnry: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KarmicUpgrades#Network%20Upgrade%20for%20Ubuntu%20Servers%20(Recommended)
[22:09] <yrlnry> Flannel: thanks.
[22:10] <voss> geeks.com was selling a 32inch lcd tv for $249 so I thought why not
[22:10] <nwadams> aaronfc: that I don't know how to do. I just use the auto dimming setting, as well my bios allows me to set the default brightness on battery. I may be able to help you through it but I am far from experienced in scripting
[22:10] <philipp__> bp i dont find it
[22:10] <Jester05> kjele, it allows USB pass-thru/intelligent USB pass-thru
[22:10] <brendan-> yrlnry: why dont you wanna use the package manager?
[22:10] <jacobopeterman> ubuntu, that worked, its installing the system. do you know if i will have to run safe graphics mode everytime i boot up? or just for installation
[22:10] <brendan-> i used it and was nice and easy to use
[22:10] <Jordan_U> aaronfc: There may be an easier way, but you can modify it in gconf-editor
[22:10] <alazyworkaholic1> I recently installed 9.10 & after installing a bunch of packages with apt-get somehow (nearly?) all my packages are now marked in synaptic as Installed (manual). Can I reverse this, or should I just reinstall everything?
[22:10] <qq99> ok.. Empathy: I got a notification "subscription request from sarah".  what does this mean, and how do I access it?
[22:10] <gip> Edward123: if I uninstall Firefox will that uninstall Adobe flash plugin
[22:10] <aaronfc> nwadams, and I can do it from my bios ?
[22:10] <qq99> I assume it's someone who wants to become friends
[22:10] <kjele> Jester05: I see.
[22:10] <aaronfc> Jordan_U ok, I'll take a look :)
[22:10] <bp> phillies_fan, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
[22:11] <yrlnry> brendan-:  because X applications run really really slow on that machine.
[22:11] <brendan-> ahhhh
[22:11] <bp> wrektjet, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
[22:11] <brendan-> fair enough
[22:11] <houeland> How do I figure out where a recent and apparently broken change in url handling for firefox came from?
[22:11] <Ioneye> how i can find where x-chat's folder is located?
[22:11] <Jordan_U> aaronfc: Apps > Gnome Power Manager > Backlight
[22:11] <ubuntu> jacobopeterman no u shouldn't have to. just make sure u install the restricted drivers and set ur resolution to one that is excepted by ur monitor
[22:11] <froglet2> karmic is just bad news.  The installer has to be broken and even my netbook is having problems waking
[22:11] <philipp__> how can i find out what /dev is my keyboard?
[22:11] <Flannel> alazyworkaholic1: Please pastebin the output of `sudo apt-get update` (close synaptic first)
[22:11] <froglet2> Jaunty was much better
[22:11] <bp> Ioneye, ".application" under home folder (which means it's in .xchat something like that)
[22:11] <Chetic_> I'm given the source code with makefiles to some drivers but with no info about dependencies. How do I know what dependencies it wants?
[22:11] <Jordan_U> philipp__: For what purpose?
[22:12] <qq99> nevermind, I found it
[22:12] <prower> froglet2: I'd suggest moving back to 9.04 I've run across at least 3 showstopper bugs that probably aren't going to be fixed any time soon
[22:12] <Jordan_U> Chetic_: What drivers?
[22:12] <insm0d> Ioneye it's probably in your home directory under .xchat2
[22:12] <gip> can someone help me to uninstall Adobe flash player plugin
[22:12] <philipp__> i wanna make a hotkey tool in perl
[22:12] <Chetic_> Jordan_U: gspca
[22:12] <lifer999> I'd lick to reprogram a couple keys on my notebook's keyboard. Anyone know what file(s) I need to edit?
[22:12] <kjele> Jester05: Do you have a link?
[22:12] <bp> philipp__, what type of keyboard is it?
[22:12] <brendan-> yrlnry: try:
[22:12] <brendan-> sudo apt-get update
[22:12] <brendan-> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:12] <brendan-> ?
[22:12] <bp> philipp__, bluetooth?
[22:12] <FloodBot2> brendan-: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:12] <zleap> any file preceeded with . is normally hidden
[22:12] <philipp__> bp the default keyboard of my notebook
[22:12] <gejr> is there a Ubuntu .img that i can easily write to a usb flash drive?
[22:12] <philipp__> bp its build in
[22:12] <Jordan_U> Chetic_: That's included in Ubuntu by default
[22:12] <froglet2> prower: yes I am about to put the desktop machine back on Jaunty and the netbook later if the problems get worse
[22:13] <camilo_> Can any one help me to fix the applications menu?
[22:13] <gejr> I can't seem to find it on the ubuntu site..am I blind?
[22:13] <Jordan_U> Chetic_: Why are you compiling it?
[22:13] <Chetic_> Jordan_U: modprobe gspca says module not found
[22:13] <bp> philipp__, you're trying to make a shortcut with bash?
[22:13] <falafel> i'm having a problem with my resolution in Karmic with fglrx and a radeon HD3200 over HDMI -- trying to do 720p and the screen is skewed to the right.  It worked in Jaunty (although I had the same problem when I first dist-upgraded to Jaunty) and it just showed up again after dist-upgrading to Karmic.
[22:13] <philipp__> bp no with perl
[22:13] <prower> froglet2: Well if your experience is anything like mine they aren't going to get better :> I have a total of six bug reports open now, at least four of them I've been told to "report it upstream" and "upstream" isn't paying any attention to them
[22:13] <Jordan_U> Chetic_: It is many modules, all starting with "gspca_"
[22:13] <bp> philipp__, so try a perl script that reads scan codes..
[22:13] <gip> Can someone help me to uninstall Adobe flash  player plugin?
[22:13] <bp> gotta go
[22:14] <Chetic_> Jordan_U: Ah.. can I get a list of modules starting with gspca_?
[22:14] <alazyworkaholic1> Flannel: http://pastebin.com/d36ffa41a        I think that looks normal, but I'd like to have things 'just so' especially since it's a fresh install.
[22:14] <Jester05> kjele, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=openbox
[22:14] <philipp__> bp i know what you think... no i dont wanna make a keylogger
[22:14] <Jordan_U> Chetic_: type "modprobe gspca" in a terminal then hit tab twice
[22:14] <froglet2> prower: I am afraid to reboot the netbook for fear it will not boot, so I will let it sleep without rebooting it, until the desktop machine is working
[22:14] <yrlnry> brendan-:  that's what I tried before I came here.  It's not the thing.
[22:15] <Chetic_> Jordan_U: Sweet! Thanks :D
[22:15] <yrlnry> brendan-:  Flannel had the right answer
[22:15] <brendan-> ahh
[22:15] <Jordan_U> Chetic_: np :)
[22:15] <brendan-> k
[22:15] <philipp__> bp i wanna make automatical clicks in dota so that i dont have to click at the spell
[22:15] <wrektjet> thanks bp, but im more like suddenly and instantaneously restarting rather than freezing
[22:15] <ikonia> philipp__: this isn't a programming support channel
[22:15] <einstein1969> hi, there is a mode for save desktop icon position?
[22:15] <kryl> hi
[22:15] <tenoch1> Does silverligth works on ubuntu?
[22:15] <Flannel> alazyworkaholic1: Yeah, it does look normal.  I'm not sure why it'd claim most of your packages are manually installed.  Can you give an example or two?
[22:16] <Jordan_U> tenoch1: Sort of, via "moonlight"
[22:16] <froglet2> some ubuntu developer has a sense of humor
[22:16] <wrektjet> would anyone suspect that an error in the MBR could be causing my system to suddenly restart out of nowhere in middle of running either win7 OS or ubuntu 9.04 OS?
[22:16] <gip> Can someone help me to uninstall Adobe flash player?
[22:16] <philipp__> ikonia i just wanna know what /dev is my default keyboard.... the rest already works
[22:16] <ikonia> wrektjet: no
[22:16] <kjele> Jester05: Nice link. Tried Xmonad?`
[22:16] <philipp__> Jordan_U to make a hotkey tool in perl
[22:16] <kjele> Jester05: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=xmonad
[22:16] <kryl> I just installed karmic and I have no sound at all does anybody can help me to understand difference between alsa & pulse (I'm alsa friendly)  and what can I do to test my driver ? I use intel HD, thank you
[22:16] <Trizicus> Is canonical going to add support for the 190.42 nvidia driver?
[22:16] <wrektjet> ikonia, hmmm ok then i have no leads
[22:16] <philipp__> Jordan_U and no its NOT a keylogger - . -
[22:17] <alazyworkaholic1> Flannel: Um, absolutely everything.
[22:17] <Jordan_U> philipp__: Reading from the device won't work
[22:17] <tenoch1> Jordan_U: yeah i was trying to watch nbcsports football game and it prompted me to install moonlight but it did not solve my problem
[22:17] <philipp__> Jordan_U why?
[22:17] <Jordan_U> philipp__: X will be taking all of the events first
[22:17] <einstein1969> howto save desktop icon position? where is the configuration file? Wich package manage the desktop icon position? thanks
[22:17] <Flannel> alazyworkaholic1: Alright, well, pick... three of them.  And then pastebin the otuput of: apt-cache policy package1 package2 package3
[22:17] <insm0d> Unlikely Trizicus.  The nvidia drivers are developed by nvidia
[22:17] <prower> philipp__, You seem pretty insistant about telling people it's not a keylogger when nobody asked :>
[22:17] <alazyworkaholic1> Flannel: Everything in "Installed" & the half-dozen packages in Installed (local or obsolete)
[22:18] <Flannel> alazyworkaholic1: Oh, I thought they were listed under local/obsolete.  I'm not sure what you're referring to about manual installation.
[22:18] <Trizicus> insm0d: I mean when you click on "Hardware Drivers" you see the 2 older nvidia drivers but not the newest
[22:18] <philipp__> prower cause if they think i make one the simply dont answer and dont ask
[22:18] <usertwo> how is gftp for transferring files?
[22:18] <kilo> qvqvqv, Well, thank you for your help... it turned out to be a DNS entry issue... For some reason none of the computers function properly when I put the address of the linksys router as the DNS entry, so I bypassed it by letting the comp get an addy vis DHCP, writing down the DNS info, and just implanted that in the static listing. problem solved... sorta... I worry that the DNS value could change.
[22:19] <Jester05> kjele, i like that xmonad.. i gotta lok more into thi
[22:19] <Jester05> this*
[22:19] <h4f> is gentoo based on debian as ubuntu ? will I be able to install .deb on gentoo ?
[22:19] <Jester05> but my class is over so i gotta go guys, have a good one
[22:19] <philipp__> prower i can send you the script if you dont belive me
[22:19] <Trizicus> h4f: Gentoo is source distro
[22:19] <qvqvqv> kilo, how odd! glad you got it fixed though :)
[22:19] <ikonia> h4f: no it's not and no you can't, join #gentoo for support
[22:19] <h4f> Trizicus: I know
[22:19] <Kuriouz> h4f: gentoo has their own package system
[22:19] <Trizicus> h4f: so it's whatever you make it
[22:19] <insm0d> h4f. no gentoo uses it's on thing called portage.  It installs everything from source
[22:19] <froglet2> for some reason though, upgrading jaunty to karmic seems to work so long as one uses apt-get or aptitude to do the deed
[22:19] <einstein1969> it is possible save desktop icon position in ubuntu?
[22:19] <philipp__> so can you just tell me what device could be my laptop keyboard?
[22:20] <tenoch1> I installed wine but i dont see it in the applications menu
[22:20] <brendan-> anyone have issues accessing the printers setup in ubuntu?
[22:20] <kilo> qvqvqv, I know right?? I'm sure it's the router, since that setup *SHOULD* have worked... ah well.
[22:20] <philipp__> its all i wanna know
[22:20] <brendan-> mine keeps erroring out before loading it
[22:20] <kjele> Jester05: It might get complicated but need some feelings to work the new way.
[22:20] <h4f>  Trizicus: even if its source distro does it require you to install everythig from source or you can instal precompiled
[22:20] <alazyworkaholic1> Flannel: Left hand pane of Synaptic has All ; Installed ; Installed (local or obsolete) ; Installed (manual) ; Installed (upgradable) ; Not Installed ; Not Installed (residual) . I'd like to know why everything that's installed normally or locally is also under the Installed (manual) section.
[22:20] <MajorGeek> boom
[22:20] <MajorGeek> Hi everyone
[22:20] <Trizicus> h4f: I've never played w/ gentoo as it's source based and I don't have enough time play around with that sooooooo
[22:21] <chrispitzer> So i have two partitions.  A 9.4 partition, with the encrypted home folder, and a 9.10 partition.  I want to recover my data from my 9.4 home folder from 9.10.  Any idea how I get through the encryption?
[22:21] <tenoch1> MajorGeek: HI
[22:21] <jacobopeterman> hi, so i installed ubuntu 64-bit on wubi, and my wireless keyboard/mouse that plug into a usb receiver are not working...they with bios. any ideas?
[22:21] <insm0d> h4f.  You can install dpkg in gentoo, but some debian packages may be broken and it will complain about not having proper dependancies
[22:21] <philipp__> so can you just tell me what device could be my laptop keyboard?
[22:21] <th0r> philipp__: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=301244
[22:21] <anthi_> hello .. how can i change permission to a folder that i have mounted ?? it is an ntfs drive ... i can see it as aroot now.. but i want it to have full permissions.. what should i do ?
[22:21] <h4f> insm0d: ok thanks.
[22:22] <Jordan_U> tenoch1: You may be out of luck
[22:22] <MajorGeek> hi tenoch1
[22:22] <wrektjet> whats the command to check on the systems uptime? im going to work and want to see if the comp restarts while im gone
[22:22] <Flannel> alazyworkaholic1: It looks like a bug. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/424643
[22:22] <dunks> uptime
[22:22] <Godfather_> Jordan_U its a script that have some root commands
[22:22] <dunks> oddly enough wrektjet
[22:22] <dunks> :p
[22:22] <Trizicus> h4f: I would actually recommend rpm based distros before over debian based
[22:22] <Jordan_U> wrektjet: "uptime"
[22:22] <knucklehead> hey all need a bit of atheros wireless help. my wireless does show up in lspci, but it wont work. i have already done the backports jaunty. how do update the driver pack? or install the new driver from the updates?
[22:22] <usertwo> how do i get the IP address of the remote machine I want to scp to?
[22:22] <ZykoticK9> wrektjet, "uptime" in terminal ;)
[22:22] <brendan-> ping it
[22:22] <wrektjet> dunks thanks
[22:22] <dunks> np
[22:22] <brendan-> or use the hostname usertwo
[22:22] <froglet2> does ubuntu update iso images when bugs get fixed?
[22:22] <wrektjet> thanks all :) simple enuff
[22:22] <tenoch1> Jordan_U: you think using wine to run windows firefox could work?
[22:22] <einstein1969> hello, how can i save desktop icon position ?
[22:23] <Jordan_U> Godfather_: What commands? ( it matters )
[22:23] <joam> is it ok to use both gnome keyring and kde wallet (separately) on the same system?
[22:23] <Kuriouz> Trizicus: huh? you're using ubuntu .. deb based
[22:23] <Trizicus> Kuriouz: I'm testing :)
[22:23] <h4f> Trizicus: what are the pros of rpm based ?
[22:23] <kilo> does anyone have much experience getting a laptop wireless card to work on 9.04 or 9.10? I have 9.10 installed, but the OS doesn't seem to give any indication that it has detected a wireless card...
[22:23] <jacobopeterman> hi, so i installed ubuntu 64-bit on wubi, and my wireless keyboard/mouse that plug into a usb receiver are not working...they with bios. any ideas?
[22:23] <insm0d> anthi_, simply changing ownership of the root folder of a mounted filesystem will not work, as technically root mounts the filesystem
[22:23] <Trizicus> h4f: Main pro is diff arch install until apt-get
[22:23] <prower> does anyone happen to have a link to download the 9.04 iso's? i'd like to have things working properly on my system again
[22:23] <froglet2> kilo did you google for your card?
[22:23] <Godfather_> Jordan_U ifconfig.... route add default gw... echo 192.168... > /etc/resolv.conf
[22:23] <Jordan_U> tenoch1: Probably not, I did a quick search and didn't see anyone saying it worked ( and it would be a well known work around if it did )
[22:24] <damagednoob> tenoch1, http://www.tuxradar.com/content/browser-benchmarks-2-even-wine-beats-linux-firefox <-- yes
[22:24] <anthi_> ok
[22:24] <igama> kilo, what is your wireless card? did you check System - Administration - Hardware Drivers ?
[22:24] <Kuriouz> Trizicus: gotta disagree with you on that part .. you should be using aptitude anyways at the very least
[22:24] <froglet2> does ubuntu update iso images when bugs get fixed?
[22:24] <Jordan_U> Godfather_: Why not set that up in network-manager?
[22:24] <ikonia> froglet2: normally only with LTS releases
[22:24] <froglet2> oic ty
[22:24] <einstein1969> :(
[22:24] <Trizicus> Kuriouz: You still cannot install different arch natively
[22:24] <philipp__> th0r it isnt /dev/stdin
[22:24] <Godfather_> Jordan_U its inside VirtualBox, i changed it with network-manager but not applies, very strange
[22:24] <anthi_> how can i have my ntfs drive automatically mounted everytime i log into ubuntu so that i can access the files that i have in NTFS and edit them ??
[22:25] <alazyworkaholic1> Flannel: Ugh, ok thanks, I'll live with it for now. I hope they'll put out an update for this. Karmic has been terrible so far. None of the closed source linux games I bought work on it properly now.
[22:25] <CutMeOwnThroat> philipp__, you were already told that that's not the way... you might look at the autokey package, though
[22:25] <Godfather_> Jordan_U can you enter via vnc and see it?
[22:25] <DasEi> froglet2: yes, but latest is always repos ( or even launchpad)
[22:25] <ikonia> philipp__: why  not ?
[22:25] <Jordan_U> Godfather_: What do you mean it doesn't apply?
[22:25] <froglet2> ikonia, I guess that means stay with Jaunty until the next LTS release
[22:25] <kilo> igama, I should've checked that first, but there is nothing listed there.
[22:25] <prower> alazyworkaholic, I've had the same problem, Quake 4 is completely broken
[22:25] <ikonia> froglet2: that's your call
[22:25] <Flannel> alazyworkaholic1: Interesting.  I encourage you to file bugs about them on launchpad
[22:25] <prower> (among other things, like half of the desktop software i've tried :P)
[22:25] <Trizicus> Kurioz: Unless I am missing something about install diff arch sw w/ aptitude?
[22:25] <Godfather_> Jordan_U, i put static ip, enter the ips, i apply, then i see ifconfig and not changed
[22:25] <Jordan_U> Godfather_: I don't use VNC much, is there are read only connection? ( you really shouldn't give a stranger access to your computer :)
[22:25] <igama> kilo, what is your wireless card?
[22:25] <kilo> froglet2, unfortunately, I can't seem to find the model of this toshiba, it's an older unit (like 2 years old)
[22:26] <kilo> igama, I'm not sure... I'm trying to find a model number for this toshiba
[22:26] <Kuriouz> Trizicus: you can force stuff .. but i'll get messy when it's clean up time ... so i wouldn't recommend package managment is about keeping everything consistent
[22:26] <igama> kilo, do this : Open a terminal - Applications - Accesories :
[22:26] <insm0d> anthi_, try using the ntfs-3g filesystem option in /etc/fstab.  Standard ntfs doesn't really allow real write support and only root can acess the files
[22:26] <Godfather_> Jordan_U i give you l/p in priv ok?
 whats that?
[22:26] <froglet2> kilo perhaps dmesg can give you info on the card
[22:26] <Jordan_U> Godfather_: Did you choose that connection from the applet or make that connection "connect automatically" ?
[22:26] <tyler_d> how do I add a bash script to my menu?
[22:26] <einstein1969> hi, there is a mode for save desktop icon position? it is gnome problem or nautilus problem?
[22:26] <DasEi> kilo: lspci tells a lot, hwinfo even more detailed info about it
[22:26] <Jordan_U> Godfather_: That's plain text
[22:26] <igama> kilo and write : lspci | grep Network
[22:26] <Terabyte> hi, i want to combine the following two path strings, how should it read? : declare -x PATH="/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/bin/:/usr/local/sbin/"
[22:26] <Trizicus> Kuriouz: One reason why I like rpm lol
[22:26] <froglet2> or the boot logger
[22:26] <Terabyte> declare -x PATH="/Database/gcc4.3.2/bin:$PATH"
[22:26] <prower> Flannel: That -would- be ideal, -if- the result of reporting bugs on launchpad wasn't 90% of the time "report it upstream" :> I haven't reported one bug against 9.10 yet that was even assigned to anybody, even after having them confirmed
[22:26] <Jordan_U> Godfather_: So don't do that
[22:26] <Slart> tyler_d: create a launcher that runs the script
[22:26] <nwadams> my brightness changes by 2 steps instead of 1 by default on 9.10. Does anyone know a way to fix this? (xps m1330 laptop)
[22:26] <philipp__> ikonia cause there is no output from
[22:26] <Godfather_> Jordan_U l/p in private msg to connect to my vnc server
[22:26] <philipp__> philipp@philipp:~$ sudo od -tx1 /dev/stdin
[22:27] <ikonia> philipp__: you can't interact with device files like that
[22:27] <Godfather_> and ip of course
[22:27] <Slart> tyler_d: either you run it using "gnome-terminal -c" if you want to see it.. or "bash -c" if you don't want to see it
[22:27] <DasEi> kilo: gnome-device-manager for a gui
[22:27] <anthi_> ok i am the root i have already mounted the ntfs drive but i cant edit them ...
[22:27] <knucklehead> atheros wireless help please
[22:27] <Jordan_U> Godfather_: I can give you my public ssh key, then you can allow me in but nobody else would be able to use it
[22:27] <knucklehead> i see the device in lspci, but cant install the driver
[22:27] <Slart> tyler_d: or you can just run it like an executable.. that works too
[22:27] <knucklehead> need cmd to install driver from repository
[22:27] <einstein1969> there is a possibility to manage desktop icon on my ubuntu?
[22:27] <insm0d> you are probably using the standard ntfs driver anthi_.  Google ntfs-3g for more help
[22:28] <philipp__> ikonika okey... how can i read the keyboard input without having the window active?
[22:28] <alazyworkaholic1> Problem #2. I'm trying to get America's Army to work. It installed without a problem. Running it gives this:  error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory            So, apt-get install libstdc++5 doesn't work, I'm told it's referred to by another package but there's no installation candidate. I think it's been superseeded by libstdc++6. Is there any wa
[22:28] <froglet2> another problem in karmic was that I told the installer to encrypt my home directory and it did not do it
[22:28] <froglet2> all it did was make ~/Private
[22:28] <wrgb> einstein1969: what do you mean by manage
[22:29] <Kuriouz> Trizicus: i can always use alien to install an rpm package but ... files will likely be in places i don't want ... that is the problem with install "alien" packages ...
[22:29] <DasEi> froglet2: did you check by live-cd ?
[22:29] <lordganesh> anthi_: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[22:29] <ikonia> philipp__: this isn't a programming channel, you'd need to interface with the OS for that
[22:29] <toefur> so is karmic regressing?
[22:29] <usertwo> so would this work? sudo scp file.tar.gz username@username:directory
[22:29] <test34> After adding an IPP printer using the wizard, whatever I print prints a blank page..
[22:29] <froglet2> DasEi, I checked by logging in at a console
[22:29] <Slart> lordganesh, anthi_ never use sudo with gui apps
[22:29] <einstein1969> wrgb, save/restore position for example
[22:29] <Slart> !gksudo | lordganesh, anthi_
[22:29] <lovre> my ALT+F2 is not working on Karmic Koala. Was working before, i think it stopped when i started Compiz as default wm
[22:30] <camilo_> Tow of my USB port don't work any sugestions
[22:30] <DasEi> froglet2: well, if you boot the os, it get's decrypted
[22:30] <philipp__> ikonia and why do it work with my mouse?
[22:30] <froglet2> DasEi, no, that is LVM
[22:30] <froglet2> I was using ecryptfs
[22:30] <ikonia> philipp__: differnet devices work in different ways
[22:30] <Slart> lordganesh, anthi_: even better.. use sudoedit
[22:30] <nwadams> my brightness changes by 2 steps instead of 1 by default on 9.10. Does anyone know a way to fix this? (xps m1330 laptop)
[22:31] <lovre> my ALT+F2 is not working on Karmic Koala. Was working before, i think it stopped when i started Compiz as default wm
[22:31] <lordganesh> Slart: oh sorry
[22:31] <wrgb> einstein1969: are we talking about the desktop folder icon?
[22:31] <topoIbiza> hi, how can i go to hispano irc?
[22:31] <kilo> igama, DasEi, froglet,  "lspci | grep Network"  returned no results but "lspci" returned information on an intel card.
[22:32] <froglet2> !es
[22:32] <insm0d> !spanish
[22:32] <predrag> people can you get me the link of the XFCE menu program?? How KDE menu...http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Desktop-Environment/Tools/K-Menu-Gnome-27364.shtml
[22:32] <predrag> ??
[22:32] <topoIbiza> join ubuntu es
[22:32] <blndr08> hey all i recently upgraded to the latest ubuntu (server) and i have a problem - when i open firefox ubuntu logs me out for no reason at all.
[22:32] <blndr08> does anyone have any idea what's happening?
[22:32] <Guest48051> hi how can i go turkey server
[22:32] <ikonia> blndr08: why are you using a server edition ?
[22:32] <einstein1969> Wrgb, folder icon and documents icon also, all icon
[22:32] <aaronfc> Jordan_U, I don't have "power management" menu option in "App" menu :S
[22:32] <froglet2> turkey server?
[22:33] <DasEi> kilo : lspci | grep eth*
[22:33] <predrag> Does anybody know the link of the XFCE MENU
[22:33] <Slart> blndr08: I would guess it's X that is crashing.. then it restarts and you get the login prompt
[22:33] <predrag> ??
[22:33] <blndr08> ikonia i have it set up for mysql database stuff
[22:33] <ikonia> blndr08: you don't need a server OS for that
[22:33] <alazyworkaholic1> I'm trying to get America's Army to work. It installed without a problem. Running it gives this:  error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory            So, apt-get install libstdc++5 doesn't work, I'm told it's referred to by another package but there's no installation candidate. I think it's been superseeded by libstdc++6. Is there any way to resolve
[22:33] <nwadams> aaronfc: look under gnome-power-management
[22:33] <kilo> DasEi, no results  :(
[22:33] <wrgb> einstein1969: they should stay where you put them
[22:33] <Slart> blndr08: check the syslog and kern.log for anything that looks like a crash.. segfault.. restart etc
[22:33] <blndr08> i realize.  i'm remote connecting to set up other stuff and this just started happening.
[22:33] <DasEi> froglet2: to make a home folder private doesn't mean encrypted, did you put a password on installation for that
[22:34] <camilo_> Does any one knows how to fix the menu applet
[22:34] <blndr08> ok.  it's not restarting it's just logging me out
[22:34] <predrag> camilo* my problem is how your
[22:34] <aaronfc> nwadams, I've it already installed that package
[22:34] <CutMeOwnThroat> !apt-file | alazyworkaholic1
[22:34] <preecher> what is a program i can use in ubuntu to convert vids from youtube to a vcd?
[22:34] <Jordan_U> aaronfc: Gnome Power Manager
[22:34] <ocatacoo> how do I register my nick on here
[22:34] <insm0d> alazyworkaholic1: search for libstdc++ in the synapic package manager, there should be several versions
[22:34] <Slart> !register | ocatacoo
[22:34] <DasEi> !ffmpeg | preecher
[22:35] <DasEi> !info ffmpeg | preecher
[22:35] <einstein1969> wrgb, yes but can i save the layout? the position.  then restore? I would to move to another folder than restore with their position
[22:35] <aaronfc> Jordan_U can't found what you say
[22:35] <UBlondie> preecher:  when you say vcd, do you mean file extension 'vcd' or just a file that you can play on a dvd player?
[22:35] <predrag> kde menu I have, gnome menu i have, can you give me the lnik for XFCE menu??
[22:35] <preecher> DasEi and ubottu  thx
[22:35] <lovre> anyone know why ALT+F2 doesnt work anymore?
[22:35] <DasEi> kilo : so what network card is it then ?
[22:35] <CutMeOwnThroat> alazyworkaholic1, libstdc 5 is old, though - and probably the same is true for libstd++ 5 - so it's not unlikely to be gone (or be gone in future) - you have to recompile to start using 6
[22:36] <alazyworkaholic1> insm0d: I searched for libstdc++ & I only get libstdc++6 variants
[22:36] <camilo_> down load helper should have a option to convert the video as it down loads it
[22:36] <joeyeye> can someone help me to get madwifi working ?
[22:36] <DasEi> !brain > preecher
[22:36] <flazz> i have "enabled" the nvidia drivers on karmic and when x starts it just dies, how can i fix this? or at least boot into a prompt where i can fix it
[22:36] <wrgb> einstein1969: there's not a way that i'm aware of -- try asking again maybe someone else knows
[22:36] <prower> CutMeOwnThroat, That's rather hard to do for games that you don't have the source for :> None of which work in 9.10 because of the missing libraries
[22:36] <froglet2> lovre I have the same problem, have to go to alt+f3
[22:36] <Slart> lovre: works for me.. not sure why it doesn't work for you
[22:36] <prower> (libstdc++-5 is no longer included in Karmic)
[22:36] <UBlondie> preecher:  ....if it's just video format ...you can try Download Helper extension for the FireFox browser
[22:37] <einstein1969> wrgb, thanks! i will
[22:37] <VCoolio> lovre: you have gnome-panel running? what does terminal say on "gnome-panel-control --run-dialog" ?
[22:37] <camilo_> use windows wireless drivers its easier
[22:37] <froglet2> prower: is it still available ?
[22:37] <skrite> i am having trouble with acidrip, complains about dvd faulty
[22:37] <Slart> flazz: check the Xorg.0.log, syslog and kern.log for more specific error messages
[22:37] <qvqvqv> what's the grub boot command to boot from a CD?
[22:37] <prower> froglet2: Not in Karmic, no
[22:37] <kilo> DasEi, I wish I knew... I didn't get any results with that last command and I can't seem to find a toshiba model number to look it up...
[22:37] <froglet2> oh my
[22:37] <prower> For some reason they decided to stop packaging it
[22:37] <qvqvqv> chainloader somethiing?
[22:37] <DasEi> kilo :
[22:37] <DasEi> open a terminal ..
[22:37] <usertwo> i tried to ping the name of the remote machine and it didnt recognise the machine. can i only ping IP adresses?
[22:38] <ocatacoo> ubottu  do I have to be on a certain room
[22:38] <DasEi> kilo :sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[22:38] <Slart> ocatacoo: nope
[22:38] <lovre> VCoolio: i am using KDE, so no Gnome.... any other idea?
[22:38] <froglet2> it does seem the developers have a sense of humor
[22:38] <preecher> UBlondie, i use the dload helper on firefox but im wantin to burn to a vcd
[22:38] <Slart> ocatacoo: but you can ask about registration in #freenode, I think
[22:38] <alazyworkaholic1> CutMeOwnThroat: Do you mean I'll have to compile my own lib...5? Can I try to force install a version with synaptic or download the library from some site? (never tried that though)
[22:38] <VCoolio> lovre: sorry, no, know nothing about kde
[22:38] <kilo> DasEi, gonna take a few... I'll need to hook it up to a wired connection...
[22:39] <buttons840> I'm attempting to configure samba using the smbpasswd command, which does ask for a new password.  But does nothing it seems.  After entering the password twice (one, and then retype for confirmation) there is no further output, the program just ends, but examples I see show it should give some further output.  I look in the smbpasswd file and see no changes suggesting that smbpasswd command is indeed doing nothing.  I believe all the XXX's in the sm
[22:39] <buttons840> bpasswd file should be changed to an encrypted password, correct?
[22:39] <AiCha> i like u ubuntu
[22:39] <prower> alazyworkaholic, Unfortunately compiling it yourself is probably your only option, someone at Canonical decided that we didn't need libstdc++-5 any more :P
[22:39] <froglet2> lovre: maybe try kubuntu ?
[22:39] <ocatacoo> so just enter that in the chat area
[22:39] <froglet2>  I mean #kubuntu
[22:39] <blndr08> Slart nothing seems out of order
[22:39] <vermapratyush> what is the default root password ???
[22:39] <vermapratyush> in ubuntu 9.10
[22:39] <lovre> froglet2: i tried.... no answers. I thought problem maybe isnt wm related
[22:39] <Slart> !root | vermapratyush
[22:40] <joeyeye> can someone help me to get madwifi working ?
[22:40] <Guest10973> Hi.  Does anyone know of a low-profile, scissors-mechanism keyboard that's  got Linux -- not Winblows -- keys?
[22:40] <einstein1969> hello, how can i save desktop icon position ? it is possible? there is a configuration file? how i can move to find information?
[22:40] <Guest10973> I found "Das Keyboard", but that's big, and mechanical keys.
[22:40] <Slart> blndr08: then I don't know what might be wrong
[22:40] <philipp__> you are all unhelpful as usual
[22:40] <ikonia> philipp__: no, you just don't listen
[22:40] <froglet2> vermapratyush, you have to set the root password if you want to login as root
[22:40] <blndr08> does anyone else know what i could do?
[22:40] <froglet2> vermapratyush, 'sudo passswd'
[22:40] <R0b0t1> How can I keep ubuntu from trying to connect with a USB wireless adapter when I plug it in?
[22:40] <froglet2> sudo passwd
[22:41] <LjL> !noroot | froglet2, vermapratyush
[22:41] <R0b0t1> It keeps fucking up my network when I do it, but I need two adapters connected. :\
[22:41] <froglet2> yeah yeah I know
[22:41] <froglet2> :)
[22:41] <mMezquitale> einstein1969, im having the same problem, i guess I'm not the only one, I'm about to file a bug report, it's getting annoying, did you install karmic from the official ISO?
[22:41] <froglet2> !ohmy
[22:41] <bthomson> hello after karmic suspend does crashes my computer
[22:41] <ikonia> froglet2: ?
[22:41] <philipp__> ikonia and why du it work on the mouse and my mobile internet?
[22:42] <LjL> ikonia: r0b0t1, i guess
[22:42] <froglet2> yes
[22:42] <ikonia> philipp__: different devices work in different ways as I said earlier
[22:42] <ikonia> LjL: froglet2 ooh yes, thank you
[22:42] <philipp__> so how can i print out my keyboard input?
[22:42] <ikonia> philipp__: as I said - this is not a programming channel
[22:43] <bthomson> is there any crashfix?
[22:43] <kjele> philipp__: Print in what?
[22:43] <alazyworkaholic1> prower: ok, well, they decided to keep me from playing ArmyOps. How can I do what I need to do?
[22:43] <UBlondie> R0b0t1:  not sure if this is what you mean, but can you go in to System > Preferences > Network connections, (it could then be under Mobile Broadband tab) ...edit the settings and de-select 'Automatically connect' ?
[22:43] <philipp__> kjele all input into the keyboard
[22:43] <gabi83tm> Hi there! Does anyone know a way to change the default action that I have accidentally set for my camera? I'm still using Jaunty.
[22:43] <ikonia> philipp__: you use the keyboard to put input into the system
[22:44] <H2O> install xbmc to 9.10 ubuntu any one now how ?
[22:44] <UBlondie> preecher:  sorry, I haven't used any software yet for converting say 'avi' files to dvd, or video files.
[22:44] <kjele> philipp__: Sorry a late comer. But you want to make a program that print out your input?
[22:44] <UBlondie> I would do a search on google ...I'm guessing there should be plenty?
[22:44] <R0b0t1> UBlondie: Well, no, it's just a normal wireless adapter, but I've got one built into the computer and I'm trying to plug another in. When I plug it in, it tries to autoconnect, but I don't want it too. Even if I say no odd things happen.
[22:44] <einstein1969> mMezquitale, i want save icon position and then later restore , i use last LTS version non karmic .... i found nothing ... :(
[22:44] <kilo> DasEi, found out it is a toshiba satellite 2430-s255 with an Intel 845PE ICH4 Chipset, which I believe the card is integrated
[22:45] <prower> alazyworkaholic, I'd suggest either installing 9.04 again or going with something else completely, I don't expect they'll include libstdc++-5 again any time soon
[22:45] <philipp__> kjele no... that do specific mouseclicks when i hit specific keys
[22:45] <alazyworkaholic1> prower: Can't I just download libstdc++5 from here?   http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/libstdc++5
[22:46] <kjele> philipp__: which language you going to use?
[22:46] <h4f> any one know of good tutorial on how to install multiple linux distro ?
[22:46] <philipp__> kjele perle
[22:46] <DasEi> kilo: sudo apt-get install hwinfo pastebinit && sudo hwinfo | pastebinit
[22:46] <prower> alazyworkaholic, If you want to try installing a hardy package under karmic, then I suppose so :> Doubt it'll work though, half of the packages that -were- built for karmic I'm having problems with
[22:46] <Slart> philipp__: you could try xmacro combined with the compiz shortcuts.. if it's something short
[22:46] <philipp__> kjele wanna see the script? http://paste.debian.net/50844/
[22:46] <ikonia> philipp__: join #perl for #perl programming support
[22:46] <fynn> Hey. Is it possible to use a source-based package management system on Ubuntu?
[22:47] <UBlondie> R0b0t1:  ..is there not a particular 'profile' or saved setting for that device in Network Settings?
[22:47] <zvacet> h4f : that should not be a problem what are you trying to install
[22:47] <fadi> ji
[22:47] <Slart> fynn: I think apt can build stuff from source for you.. if that's what you mean
[22:47] <icewaterman> hi, i am trying to upgrade to karmic, but the upgrade app doesnt start
[22:47] <UBlondie> R0b0t1:   ...just trying to come up with ideas for you?
[22:47] <icewaterman> i klick the upgrade button and nothing happens
[22:47] <DasEi> h4f: mainly just partitoning , maybe mind grub legacy and grub 2 though
[22:48] <gabi83tm> Hi there! Does anyone know a way to change the default action that I have accidentally set for my camera? I'm still using Jaunty.
[22:48] <zvacet> icewaterman:  is your jaunty up-to-date
[22:48] <R0b0t1> UBlondie: Oh, it's not like you're not helping, but hmm. That'd remove it totally. I'll see if I can poke it enough to get it to work.
[22:48] <kjele> philipp__: check out http://gtk2-perl.sourceforge.net/
[22:48] <prower> icewaterman: If you're using 9.04 and everything is fine otherwise, then I wouldn't recommend even clicking that button :>
[22:48] <fynn> Slart: any link for doing that?
[22:48] <icewaterman> prower: why is that?
[22:48] <h4f> zvacet: I just thinking. I already have /boot /home and /root. and free space.
[22:48] <prower> icewaterman: Well, do you ever play DVD's in Ubuntu?
[22:48] <Slart> fynn: nope.. but google for apt-build
[22:48] <icewaterman> zvacet: sure
[22:48] <batang_g> I have aproblem with Ubuntu 9.10-Desktop i386.  When im installing packages like g++ and hardware drivers, it always says "Please insert  cd Ubuntu 9.10.." or something like that.  But when i insert the installation cd, it says the same thing.  Can someone make this work?
[22:48] <icewaterman> prower: nope, at least not video DVDs
[22:48] <DasEi> H2O: what an app is that you wan tinstall ?
[22:48] <Slart> fynn: I think there's a switch for apt-get that does the same thing.. check the man page
[22:49] <mMezquitale> einstein1969, it looks like the bug is related to symlinks, symlinks keep changing position after a reboot, you might want to ask to this thread, im going to post as well: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glib2.0/+bug/411322
[22:49] <prower> icewaterman: Ahh, well that's good because they don't work in karmic :> Play any games like Quake 4?
[22:49] <kilo> DasEi, it couldn't find hwinfo
[22:49] <einstein1969> hi, there is a program/plugins for save/restore desktop icon layout/position for ubuntu? where i can find information?
[22:49] <Slart> batang_g: check the software sources, you probably have a cd included there.. remove it
[22:49] <H2O> Xbmc ... ...
[22:49] <zvacet> h4f : on free space you can install other linux I don´t konw about share home if other will be rpm based
[22:49] <Shiba> what is the package name that is used for the linux kernel in Ubuntu?
[22:49] <icewaterman> prower: why doesnt dvd playback work?
[22:49] <ikonia> H2O: what about it ??? saying  ... ... means nothing
[22:49] <DasEi> H2=: don't know it
[22:49] <icewaterman> prower: just a bug or what
[22:49] <philipp__> kjele dont focus on the perl script.... i am happy with a normal command for the terminal
[22:49] <Slart> Shiba: linux-image-generic
[22:49] <Bryce1> when i try and access my windows network on karmic i cant access it but when i use a live cd of karmic i can.  how can i fix this?
[22:49] <H2O> oo sorry
[22:49] <h4f> zvacet: gentoo
[22:49] <CutMeOwnThroat> alazyworkaholic1, no, I think you have to recompile whatever program that is that uses libstc++ 5
[22:49] <prower> icewaterman: Good question...I've reported it on launchpad, they've told me to report it upstream -- upstream says it's a distribution issue
[22:49] <Shiba> Slart: thanks
[22:50] <Bryce1> when i try and access my windows network on karmic i cant access it but when i use a live cd of karmic i can.  how can i fix this?
[22:50] <prower> icewaterman: So apparently the problem either doesn't exist or nobody wants to work on it :P
[22:50] <H2O> http://xbmc.org/
[22:50] <icewaterman> prower: hmm, anyways, dont really care about everything but  maybe data dvds.
[22:50] <ikonia> H2O: thats not a question either, that's a URL
[22:50] <Bryce1> when i try and access my windows network on karmic i cant access it but when i use a live cd of karmic i can.  how can i fix this?
[22:50] <icewaterman> prower: well i cant even upgrade because the app will download but noch launch
[22:50] <DasEi> kilo: should be in universe, what gives : sudo hwinfo                back ?
[22:50] <alazyworkaholic1> CutMeOwnThroat: Not gonna happen. It's America's Army 2.5 (the last one made for linux years back)
[22:50] <icewaterman> dunno why
[22:50] <Bryce1> when i try and access my windows network on karmic i cant access it but when i use a live cd of karmic i can.  how can i fix this?
[22:51] <alazyworkaholic1> CutMeOwnThroat: I'm trying to install libs I found on the net now.
[22:51] <einstein1969> mMezquitale, thanks i look that is a gnome problem... i guess it ?
[22:51] <batang_g> I have aproblem with Ubuntu 9.10-Desktop i386.  When im installing packages like g++ and hardware drivers, it always says "Please insert  cd Ubuntu 9.10.." or something like that.  But when i insert the installation cd, it says the same thing.  Can someone make this work?
[22:51] <philipp__> kjele can i prit it with sudo od?
[22:51] <mar3k> http://www.cashgrass.com/aff/idevaffiliate.php?id=1261
[22:51] <mar3k> http://www.cashgrass.com/aff/idevaffiliate.php?id=1261
[22:51] <H2O> never mend
[22:51] <FloodBot2> mar3k: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:51] <H2O> well googlet
[22:51] <Bryce1> when i try and access my windows network on karmic i cant access it but when i use a live cd of karmic i can.  how can i fix this?
[22:51] <ikonia> H2O: I don't need to - I know what it is
[22:51] <Flannel> batang_g: Are you connected to the internet?
[22:51] <buttons840> how can i check if a port is open, or list all open ports on my linux?
[22:51] <Slart> !repeat | Bryce1
[22:52] <fynn> Slart: thanks, I was actually thinking of something like running Portage on Ubuntu
[22:52] <H2O> no  i well googlet :)
[22:52] <CutMeOwnThroat> buttons840, netstat -an; fuser portnumber/tcp  or lsof
[22:52] <Slart> Bryce1: try to include some more info... what happens when it "doesn't work".. do you get some kind of error? your computer shuts down?
[22:52] <H2O> ikonia do u now how to installet in 9.10
[22:52] <ikonia> H2O: do you have a question ?
[22:52] <DasEi> H"O: I don't know that as said, well googled : http://xbmc.org/wiki/?title=HOW-TO_install_XBMC_for_Linux_on_Ubuntu_with_a_minimal_installation_step-by-step
[22:52] <zvacet> h4f : you can install it but I don´t know if ubuntu and gentoo casn share same home ask somebody better informed
[22:52] <kjele> philipp__: You need to capture what you write so my $type = gtk2::Gdk->keyval_name() then transfer that to a mouse input
[22:52] <Bryce1> it doesnt let me access the windows network. nothing happens it just wont connect
[22:52] <ikonia> !xbmc
[22:52] <Slart> fynn: haven't heard of anything like that... sorry
[22:53] <ikonia> H2O: there are instructions on the website
[22:53] <batang_g> sorry about that, im new here. i'll try that
[22:53] <alazyworkaholic1> It worked! After I installed gcc-3.3-base_3.3.6-15ubuntu4_i386.deb & then libstdc++5_3.3.6-15ubuntu4_i386.deb America's Army started up like a charm. :)
[22:53] <H2O> Not 4 the ubuntu 9.10 ...
[22:53] <icewaterman> ok guys, wish me luck, i am upgrading right now
[22:53] <kilo> DasEi, Command not found  :-\
[22:53] <ashy> Bryce1: using DHCP?
[22:53] <frogzoo> alright - flash ads in firefox that can't be stopped - any solution?
[22:53] <kilo> DasEi, just tried installing it again individually... no luck
[22:53] <naxxfish> ok, i did a stupid - I upgraded the ram in my system whilst it was in hibernate ... what can I do?
[22:53] <icewaterman> seems the update-manager didnt like my /tmp being mounted -o noexec
[22:54] <ikonia> H2O: yes there is http://xbmc.org/wiki/?title=HOW-TO_install_XBMC_for_Linux_on_Ubuntu%2C_a_Step-by-Step_Guide
[22:54] <Bryce1> ashy: im not sure. But when you suggested to use the live cd it worked wonderfully
[22:54] <Slart> naxxfish: shut down the computer.. think happy thoughts.. try starting it again
[22:54] <DasEi> H2O:saw the link above ? if Ubuntu has issues, right place here, no further exoitics, #linux better place
[22:54] <H2O> it wont work in 9.10 -
[22:54] <unperson> Hi.  Just upgraded to karmic, and I'm trying to work through some of the bugs.
[22:54] <blackenedaemos> you now this error GStreamer encountered a general stream error.
[22:54] <jacobopeterman> hi, so i installed ubuntu 64-bit on wubi, and my wireless keyboard/mouse that plug into a usb receiver are not working...they with bios. any ideas?
[22:55] <philipp__> kjele Can't locate object method "keyval_name" via package "gtk2::Gdk" (perhaps you forgot to load "gtk2::Gdk"?) at ./ulti.sh line 3.
[22:55] <naxxfish> Slart: yeah, as much as i'd like that to have worked, it didn't :p
[22:55] <ikonia> philipp__: take this to a programming channel please.
[22:55] <DasEi> kilo : which distro ?
[22:55] <prower> unperson: Good luck, that's about all I can tell you :> That's about all that I've been told too, essentially
[22:55] <kilo> DasEi, 9.10
[22:55] <ashy> Bryce1: have you set up a static ip and stuff on your install?
[22:55] <ikonia> H2O: then contact the software maintainers
[22:55] <buttons840> i believe samba is configured but port 139 and 445 don't seem to be working, i'm trying to determine if they are closed by something else
[22:55] <Slart> naxxfish: =) so what happened? anything at all? beeping?
[22:55] <kjele> philipp__: you need to use Gtk2 -init; first
[22:55] <will_> Anyone else experience slow window switching in Ubuntu/Gnome?
[22:55] <zvacet> icewaterman : under software repositories>updates at the bottom select normal relases
[22:55] <H2O> i need sume key ..
[22:55] <H2O> public one ..
[22:55] <DasEi> kilo : repos (universe) enabled (check synaptic or file : /etc/apt/sources.list)
[22:55] <unperson> prower, the best advice I can give is to check out launchpad.  it seems to be the best place to find solutions
[22:55] <ikonia> H2O: contact the maintainers
[22:56] <naxxfish> Slart: nope, it tried to go head and boot up but then got stuck at blinking cursor for about 10 minutes
[22:56] <Slart> will_: nope.. works the same here as it did in 9.04
[22:56] <Bryce1> ashy: i dont believe so i have trouble shot samba and smbfs alot so that might of changed it but i havent gone into network connections and changed that
[22:56] <H2O> ok
[22:56] <batang_g> yes, using the live cd makes installation of packages work, but how about if i wanted the dual OS to work, with using the live cd? how can i eliminate the "Please insert cd.." message?
[22:56] <naxxfish> it should be noted that hibernate worked OK beforehand, i.e. it's not hibernate that is broken
[22:56] <prower> unperson: Oh, I tried :> Reported on launchpad that DVD's of any kind are completely unplayable in karmic, I was told to go report it upstream instead
[22:56] <prower> (I did that too of course, but upstream isn't answering)
[22:56] <Slart> naxxfish: perhaps shut it down, pull the plug and let it rest for a minute or two will let it restore itself.. you might want to ask about this in ##hardware too
[22:56] <ikonia> batang_g: in the source manager, remove the CD devices as a source option
[22:56] <alazyworkaholic1> Does anyone know why openAl would cause severe sound garbling in 9.10? It worked fine before. I'm trying to play Penumbra, but it won't work.
[22:56] <unperson> Bug #1: flashplayer doesn't register my left mouse clicks.  It looks like this is a well known bug and my best option is to purge the flashplayer-nonfree package and install direct from Adobe's site.  Anyone disagree or have something to add on that point?
[22:56] <DasEi> prower: tried vlc ?
[22:57] <quickdr4w> :|
[22:57] <naxxfish> Slart: I'll give it a go - but when I upgraded the RAM it was unplugged for quite a while
[22:57] <prower> DasEi: Nope, let's give that a try
[22:57] <VCoolio> H2O: the key is the second step in the howto; just read on
[22:57] <batang_g> ikonia: i'll try that. thanks.
[22:57] <DasEi> prower: sudo apt-get install vlc and :
[22:57] <DasEi> !dvd
[22:57] <DasEi> karmic is fine
[22:57] <unperson> prower, Unplayable with the CSS lib and any available software?
[22:58] <yushazizi> hi
[22:58] <prower> unperson, DasEi: I have the CSS lib installed and the DVD's I've tried have both been encrypted and unencrypted, neither work :>
[22:58] <mMezquitale> einstein1969, it looks like the bug is solved but is not yet released, if you really want the fix it looks like it's here: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=593809
[22:58] <prower> Seriously, try putting a DVD in your system and playing it in Totem in karmic
[22:58] <wahaj> Hello all,
[22:58] <wahaj> I want to install kile for LDAP on ubuntu. I download kile 2.0 to my home directory.  tar jxf kile-2.0b1.tar.bz2  then cd kile-2.0b1  then I configured it   ./configure --prefix=$HOME/kile-bin
[22:58] <ashy> Bryce1:  try doing cat /etc/resolv.conf on both your install and the livecd, make sure they're the same
[22:58] <DasEi> prower: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricte-extras vlc << I  had no probs by that
[22:58] <H2O> are ready triad ........
[22:58] <Bryce1> ok
[22:59] <unperson> prower, I always had better luck with VLC than Totem for DVDs
[22:59] <kilo> DasEi, ya, it looks like restricted, universe and multiverse are all listed. I tried to find hwinfo in the synaptic package manager and no luck.
[22:59] <prower> Incidentally the DVD -will- play in VLC, so it -is- a Totem problem in karmic that didn't exist in Jaunty
[22:59] <ashy> Bryce1: I had similar problems and it turned out to be dns issue
[22:59] <DasEi> prower: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras vlc << I  had no probs by that (typo above)
[22:59] <unperson> prower, Actually, I generally avoid totem
[22:59] <ikonia> wahaj: then wat ?
[22:59] <ikonia> what
[22:59] <prower> unperson: It worked just fine in VLC actually, which is good :>
[22:59] <philipp__> kjele still dont work... maybe i need a additional libary
[22:59] <H2O> sume how tnx 4 u support well google it .... :)
[22:59] <wahaj> how I make it
[22:59] <wahaj> Install it
[22:59] <ikonia> philipp__: last request - PLEASE take this to a programming room
[22:59] <philipp__> kjle may the libary isnt installed
[22:59] <Shiba> Is there a way to set dependencies in /etc/network/interfaces, so that e.g. a bridge device depends on the underlying physical hardware being up?
[22:59] <ikonia> wahaj: there is normally a text document called README or INSTALL in the tar file, they have instructions
[23:00] <philipp__> ikonia i do
[23:00] <philipp__> i am in #perl too
[23:00] <DasEi> kilo : hm, k : did you see :
[23:00] <DasEi> !wireless
[23:00] <ikonia> philipp__: stop discussing it in here please.
[23:00] <wahaj> okay thnx
[23:00] <qvqvqv> i'm just writing this here in case someone who has the same problem searches the irc logs: ubuntu 9.10 will not work as a host on windows 7 virtual PC if you use the default install of the generic-pae kernel. it will install but then come up with "segmentation fault" errors on the first boot, and fail. you need to install the linux-generic or linux-virtual packages in manual package selection.
[23:00] <unperson> prower, Oh good.  Well that's a partial solution, anyway.  :-)
[23:01] <ikonia> qvqvqv: that would be a guest - not a host
[23:01] <rotorr> how can i enable/disable the startup services? there is a command but i cant rembember
[23:01] <kilo> DasEi, I'll take a look, thanks!
[23:01] <qvqvqv> oops, i meant guest
[23:01] <ikonia> just checking
[23:01] <aaronfc> Hello :)
[23:01] <Slart> !boot | rotorr
[23:01] <DasEi> kilo : just give the links from pastebinit here, so we can follow;
[23:02] <aaronfc> I need som help, with this: "/sys/devices/system/cpu/sched_mc_power_savings" I've intel core 2 duo, I cant find that option :S
[23:02] <aaronfc> how to enable it ?
[23:02] <prower> unperson: Partial solutions in karmic seems to be about as much as you can hope for so I'll take what I can get I suppose :>
[23:02] <DasEi> kilo : sudo iwconfig | pastebinit
[23:02] <unperson> prower, Like I said, I'm not sure I personally ever got DVDs working right in Totem
[23:03] <prower> unperson: True enough, I can say with certainty that in my case they worked in 9.04 however
[23:03] <kilo> DasEi, "no wireless extensions"
[23:03] <philipp__> ikonia you suck
[23:03] <DasEi> kilo : pastebinit returns url's in trml, give them here
[23:04] <jugglerbry>  having issues trying to install karmic netbook remix.  usb seems to be ready as i get the main menu, but it just doesnt want to install.  any ideas ?
[23:04] <DasEi> kilo : sudo iwconfig | pastebinit
[23:04] <Xcell> I am impressed with 9.10    http://imagebin.org/70649     nice job Ubuntu.
[23:04] <unperson> Okay, so bug #2:  My computer gets stuck during the boot process if my USB hub is plugged in at boot time.  If I unplug it until after boot, everything is fine.  Obviously this never happened in Jaunty
[23:04] <DasEi> kilo : sudo lspci | pastebinit
[23:04] <ikonia> Xcell: good to hear a positive response now and then
[23:05] <Xcell> ikonia-   thats 3 whole days work.. fully loaded setup.. im impressed.
[23:05] <unperson> I looked at launchpad but didn't find a similar bug immediately.
[23:05] <ocatacoo> okay I know this is an obvious one but how do I register my nick I am in pigin and I have read on it but still confused
[23:05] <unperson> Anyone heard of something like that?
[23:06] <gbrethen> need help figuring out why ubuntu 9.10 freezes (kernel panic) caps lock blinks?  where can I get help with this?
[23:07] <insm0d> what do you do right before that happens gbrethen
[23:07] <Slart> gbrethen: check kern.log and syslog for any information
[23:07] <VCoolio> !register | ocatacoo
[23:07] <DasEi> gbrethen: /etc/var/log   >>syslog, kernlog  and dmesg
[23:07] <Slart> ocatacoo: I would say it's probably easier to do it with a real irc client.. try xchat
[23:07] <gbrethen> fresh install, don't do anything, it just freezes and forces me to do a hard boot!
[23:07] <kilo> DasEi, ok, now I know something deeper is wrong... I can pull up websites, but I can't install hwinfo or pastebinit
[23:07] <Hammy> Having problems with screen resolution max 800x600, same as the guy in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1313280, got any ideas?
[23:07] <ocatacoo> that easy
[23:07] <Keiya> I had a DNS failure for a bit there. But it resolved itself.
[23:07] <VCoolio> ocatacoo: type the commands where you also type to chat; pidgin is fine btw
[23:08] <Keiya> It was coupled with a hicup causing connections to reset, so...
[23:08] <Keiya> >_>
[23:08] <DasEi> kilo : sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:08] <jugglerbry> any netbook remix help here guys ?  trying to install it but doesnt seem to want to play ball
[23:08] <froglet2> gbrethen, you might consider Jaunty, it did not suffer from the problems some are having with karmic
[23:08] <purple_processor> gbrethen: can you ping the machine log in via ssh?
[23:08] <prower> Xcell: You've had better luck than me then, I've had to file bugs against karmic's versions of totem, kdenlive, a request for libstdc++-5 to be reincluded...at least three or four others
[23:09] <phixxor> hello -- what does modprobe do?
[23:09] <gbrethen> I am running jaunty side by side with karmic.  No problems with Jaunty
[23:09] <ikonia> probes for kernel modules
[23:09] <infomomo> DasEi: i was told aptitude works better\
[23:09] <DasEi> phixxor: loads modules
[23:09] <froglet2> modprobe is used to load kernel modules
[23:09] <phixxor> My internet wasn't working, and then I tried sudo modprobe ath5k and it worked, does that make sense?
[23:09] <insm0d> or someone here can make a libstd++5 package and tell others where to download it from
[23:09] <gbrethen> should I wait til a lot of the bugs get worked out before upgrading?
[23:09] <purple_processor> phixxor: insters kernal modules
[23:09] <ikonia> phixxor: that will load a module for your wirless card
[23:09] <DasEi> phixxor:  yes
[23:10] <kilo> DasEi, THAT did it... gimme a minute for installation and I'll pastebin everything
[23:10] <Xcell> prower-  ive learned which packages to load from experience.. what ones work and what not.. painstaking i know.. i took the time to research.
[23:10] <fujimitsu> whats the new kernel version number
[23:10] <phixxor> ikonia: DasEi is there a way to load it every boot by default?
[23:10] <froglet2> gbrethen, I am downgrading to Jaunty now
[23:10] <Slart> !info linux-image-generic | fujimitsu
[23:10] <DasEi> phixxor: y, put in /etc/modules
[23:10] <froglet2> I liked Jaunty
[23:10] <noona> I need gcc 4.1.0 binary, could someome pls give me a direct link?
[23:10] <insm0d> yes phixxor.  The atheros driver wasn't loaded into the kernel.  That command accomplishes that
[23:10] <fujimitsu> 10-4 slart
[23:10] <froglet2> karmic is capricious
[23:10] <ocatacoo> << /nick <ocatacoo> >>
[23:10] <jado> i have nosound i get "device or resource busy" when doing a speaker-test. is there a way to get back my sound without rebooting?
[23:11]  * Keiya is burning a Karmic disk right now.
[23:11] <Bryce1> ashy: yes the cat /etc/resolv.conf is the same on the live disk as it is on my install
[23:11] <purple_processor> phixxor: somthing that me a while to understand was a kernal modules is the == of a windoze driver
[23:11] <phixxor> hmm kk
[23:11] <dob1> hi, why i am not able to use on console tab completition with the latex command ?  i mean i have a file foobar.tex, on console i type latex foo<TAB> and i don't get the file name....
[23:11] <ocatacoo> ok was that correct
[23:11] <noona> .................
[23:11] <noona> I need gcc 4.1.0 binary, could someome pls give me a direct link?
[23:11] <ashy> Bryce1: hmmm, then sorry I'm out of ideas
[23:11] <ZykoticK9> jado, assuming you're using pulse you could try "killall -9 pulseaudio && start-pulseaudio-x11"
[23:11] <phixxor> ikonia: DasEi : alright I put "ath5k" at the bottom of /etc/modules
[23:12] <Bryce1> ok thanks for the help
[23:12] <ikonia> noona: only use the gcc versions in the ubuntu repos
[23:12] <phixxor> will reboot now to test it
[23:12] <DasEi> phixxor: y
[23:12] <Bryce1> i think im going to re install karmic
[23:12] <Xcell> actually// ive got sabayon / suse / centos / fedora / but this new 9.10 out does them all on my hardware.
[23:12] <sadaiyappan> nope no one in movies
[23:12] <sadaiyappan> on this server no one is there
[23:12] <ashy> Bryce1: I guess that would be the easy way :D
[23:12] <noona> it doesnt give me binary, only src that i have to compile
[23:12] <sadaiyappan> on other servers if i type #movies it takes me to piracy rooms
[23:12] <`paul> im doing a do-release-upgrade on ubuntu server and i get a not enough free space on /boot how do i know which one to delete on the /boot folder?
[23:12] <Slart> !piracy | sadaiyappan
[23:13] <ikonia> noona: no it doesn't
[23:13] <ikonia> noona: if you use the package manager to install gcc it will give you the binary, not source
[23:13] <froglet2> doesn't installing build-essential automatically install the proper gcc?
[23:13] <ikonia> noona: open synaptic and search for gcc - those are the packages available to ubuntu
[23:13] <kilo> DasEi, ok, hwinfo is at  http://pastebin.com/f542d7ed9  and lspci is at  http://pastebin.com/f47436c44
[23:14] <Flannel> `paul: Don't delete the kernels manually, delete them via your package manager.  Remove old linux-image-[version] packages
[23:14] <noona> where do i open synaptic? i am sorry i am a linux newbie
[23:14] <DasEi> kilo: hwinfo is kinda advanced lspci
[23:14] <prower> ikonia: Supposing that there's a rather essential set of libraries like libstdc++-5 that are completely missing from karmic's repositories but are needed to run a lot of older, closed-source software that worked in Jaunty, what would your recommendation be there?
[23:14] <kilo> DasEi, iwconfig returned an error "You are trying to send an empty document"
[23:14] <`paul> Flannel: how do i do these on CLI?
[23:14] <ikonia> prower: speak to the maintainers to get them included ASAP
[23:14] <kilo> DasEi, ahh gotcha
[23:14] <Flannel> `paul: Be sure you don't delete the newest kernel, nor the one you're on (uname -a will tell you that).  Also, for an upgrade, they should be the same.
[23:14] <insm0d> noona at the top of the screen.  System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager
[23:14] <Flannel> `paul: apt-get purge package1 package2 package3 etc
[23:15] <prower> ikonia: Good idea :> And how would you speak to the maintainer of a package that isn't maintained in karmic any longer?
[23:15] <noona> IKONIA- how do i do it using the apt command?
[23:15] <Flannel> `paul: to find the packages, dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[23:15] <ikonia> prower: speak to the maintainer and ask them to maintain it in karmic
[23:15] <ikonia> noona: apt-cache search gcc
[23:16] <jacobopeterman> hi, im trying to set up my keyboard and mouse with bluetooth to ubuntu, and it is recognizing it and asking me to input a pin code, i do and it says pairing failed. any ideas?
[23:16] <DasEi> kilo : Model: "Realtek RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+"  wired ...
[23:16] <ZykoticK9> prower, are you running into problems with libstdc++.so.5 right now?  or is this theoretical?
[23:16] <thebloggu> how can i run a bash script from the run dialog?
[23:16] <`paul> Flannel: ok will try. thanks
[23:16] <prower> ikonia: I think you're missing the point just a little bit :P Thanks, but never mind
[23:16] <wrgb> ocatacoo: just type "/nick newnickname" (without the quotes)
[23:16] <insm0d> the bloggu: /bin/bash /path/to/script
[23:16] <prower> ZykoticK9, The problem I'm running into is that a lot of my games that I have require those libraries and they won't run, including lesser known titles like Quake 4 :P
[23:16] <ikonia> prower: I'm not - if the packge doesn't exist, either speak to the old package maintaiers to bring it forward, or log a request for a new package to be created as a new project
[23:16] <Slart> thebloggu: run it as "bash yourscript" or "sh yourscript" or "/home/slart/yourscript"
[23:16] <ikonia> prower: I'd be surprised if the legacy libraries are removed though
[23:16] <Slart> thebloggu: oh.. sorry.. full path to bash/sh might be nice too
[23:16] <noona> thanks
[23:16] <purple_processor> jacobopeterman: search for your devices default pin code with google.
[23:16] <DasEi> kilo : sudo apt-get install wireless-tools
[23:16] <ZykoticK9> prower, i got Quake 4 and UT 2004 working yesterday!  are you on 64bit?
[23:17] <prower> ZykoticK9, 32
[23:17] <virtuweb> hallo
[23:17] <purple_processor> thebloggu: yes you sure can..
[23:17] <jacobopeterman> ty purple_processor
[23:17] <prower> ikonia: Oh, I was surprised too of course, but that doesn't really change the fact that there's no libstdc++-5 package to be found in Synaptic
[23:17] <kilo> DasEi, Says it's already at the newest version
[23:17] <ikonia> prower: ahhh so there really isnt one, I thought  you where suggesting in theory
[23:18] <thebloggu> Slart, purple_processor that's strange, i tried all the ways but i simply cant run my script except from the terminal
[23:18] <ikonia> prower: in that case contact the jaunty maintainer and ask them to bring it forward if possible
[23:18] <ZykoticK9> prower, can't exactly help with 32 bit but this was what was needed for my 64 - just find the 32 bit dep to download instead http://paste.ubuntu.com/311009/
[23:18] <prower> ikonia: No, in "theory" they -should- be there :P In practice they're obliterated
[23:18] <ikonia> prower: didn't realise they had actually gone, sorry
[23:19] <DasEi> kilo :Model: 15.2.7 "Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz"  with alps glidepoint, second
[23:19] <purple_processor> thebloggu: chmod +x your script and it should your poss call you script.sh but shouldnt matter
[23:19] <prower> ZykoticK9, That may work temporarily but I doubt installing gcc versions from a previous distribution will last long before some other change borks them :>
[23:19] <Slart> prower: have you read this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=cc23a035cc28431889fa916313484eca&t=1265204
[23:19] <froglet2> prower, was it the Debian project that discontinued inclusion of that older libstdc or ubuntu?
[23:19] <JuJuBee> after a recent update, when I rebooted, nfs-kernel-server and nfs-common will not start.
[23:19] <rapha> I don't *WANT* this new "Ubuntu communications icon" which has Empathy and Evolution in it. I want my old Empathy notification area icon back. How to get it back?
[23:19] <`paul> off topic: who has google wave invite?
[23:19] <`paul> :)
[23:19] <ZykoticK9> prower, i'm NOT disagreeing with you in any way -- but this is how i got Quake 4 working yesterday on Karmic
[23:20] <Slart> prower: it seems previous versions of ubuntu didn't come with libstdc++5 but they did create a symlink to libstdc++6 ..
[23:20] <rapha> `paul: friend of mine just got one
[23:20] <ikonia> `paul: don't be offtopic please
[23:20] <Slart> prower: karmic is the first version that doesn't create this symlink
[23:20] <ikonia> invites are not to be discussed in here please.
[23:20] <`paul> ok sorry
[23:20] <`paul> :)
[23:20] <thebloggu> purple_processor, no luck i chmoded it placed it in /bin chowned it, ran bash script, sh script with and without full path
[23:20] <kilo> DasEi, not sure what to make of that...
[23:21] <DasEi> kilo : I'm trying to figure out exact model, tecra ...
[23:21] <insm0d> thebloggu, it probably won't open up a terminal.  What does the script do?