[00:00] <escott> LAcan, im not sure that is an independent widget, you would probably have to create one yourself. depending on what language your script is in there may be bindings for it
[00:00] <maheanuu> I removed Pulse audio and installed Alsa and now nothing wurks
[00:00] <edbian> dusf: You want way more than 15gb for /home and /
[00:00] <LAcan> escott, craigbass1976 i just need some kind of progress metre... CLI is fine too
[00:00] <LAcan> i tried -v but its not very verbose!
[00:00] <toneshifter> meheanuu is it for me ?
[00:01] <maheanuu> That is for anyone that might like to give this older than dirt Chief a hand
[00:01] <darkenvy> okay.... Unetbootin crashes X
[00:01] <edbian> dusf: 10 is recommended for / alone.  /home takes as much stuff as you store.  Generally this is the majority of your disc usage. All of your personal files are stored in /home.  Music, movies, papers, everything
[00:01] <darkenvy> I do not have a CD drive to make a CD
[00:01] <escott> LAcan, if you want a cli progress meter just echo -n "="
[00:01] <edbian> dusf: There is not much to be gained from a separate /opt.  Why do you want that separate?
[00:01] <tuffpoo_UBUNTU> how do i know i have the correct nvidia driver for my computer
[00:02] <dusf> edbian: my bad, that was the wrong link! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10803212#post10803212
[00:02] <LAcan> escott, i dont understand...?
[00:02] <toneshifter> nope seriously alsa was working yesterday
[00:02] <darkenvy> how can I make unetbootin not crash X?
[00:02] <toneshifter> and after update
[00:02] <dusf> edbian: /opt is separate so i can hang onto software i install without synaptic after a fresh install
[00:02] <toneshifter> it freaked out
[00:02] <edbian> dusf: Awesome :)  You know the filesystem better than me I think!
[00:02] <nsd_> I upgraded this machine to Ubuntu 11.04 and now when I shut it down, it appears to do so uncleanly; upon rebooting, the BIOS POST test thing says that the last boot failed. This only happens after shutting down; it doesn't happen if I restart the computer. When I boot up the machine (before I see the message), I see the boot screen twice (hence the "previous boot failed" message), but on the first attempt, it does not get past that.
[00:02] <kavurt> pooltable: i asked opensource alternatives for skype. those are not even for linux.
[00:02] <craigbass1976> LAcan, google for spinny in bash scripts.  I know I've seen it before.  There's such a thing as Greg's wiki too; google for that.  bashfaq as well, that might be the same as greg's wiki.
[00:02] <dusf> edbian: i very much doubt that :)
[00:02] <edbian> dusf: Can you show me the output of ls -l /path/to/media
[00:02] <nsd_> Anyone know of what might be causing the problem?
[00:03] <escott> LAcan, so if this is a bash script right... and you have some way of determining your progress, then whenever the progress goes above n*10% echo -n "=" and it will print a "=" without a newline
[00:03] <dusf> toneshifter: i lose sound every upgrade because i have pulseaudio removed, and an upgrade reinstalls it, try sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio and reboot - at your own risk
[00:03] <edbian> dusf: I can fix your problem
[00:03] <bkerensa> Anyone know how to kill the ubuntuone notification
[00:04] <edbian> dusf: I have to grab my laundry.  I'll be right back.
[00:04] <darkenvy> I need to prep a USB for installation of ubuntu... Unetbootin crashes my X. how else can this be done?
[00:04] <tuffpoo_UBUNTU> how do i know i have the correct nvidia driver for my computer????
[00:04] <dusf> edbian: http://pastebin.com/6P6BF7SB and nps
[00:04] <bkerensa> my ubuntuone notification has gone major haywire (keeps popping up every second)
[00:04] <edbian> dusf: got it.  brb
[00:04] <LAcan> escott, i think im unclear... I just need a porgress metret for the file move, not the entire script...?
[00:04] <dusf> :)
[00:04] <toneshifter> so remove pulseaudio should fix the problem ?
[00:04] <velcroshooz> darkenvy: just dd the iso to the stick from cli
[00:04] <iocor> can motd be a script instead of a static text file?
[00:04] <darkenvy> I dont know what that means
[00:04] <toneshifter> dusf i mean i have sound the problem is after plugin headphones
[00:05] <thomasrive> hello
[00:05] <toneshifter> it still play sound from the speakers
[00:05] <bkerensa> Does anyone know what process handles the Desktop Notifications in gnome for UbuntuOne? Mine has gone haywire and keeps popping up
[00:05] <escott> LAcan, run this in your terminal echo -n "|"; sleep 5; echo -n "="; sleep 5; echo -n "="; sleep 5; echo -n "="; echo -n "|" and see if it gives you what you want
[00:05] <dusf> toneshifter: are you sure the headphones are working? for me i need to run alsamixer and confirm that all channels are at 100%
[00:05] <dusf> this may help you...
[00:05] <toneshifter> yeap
[00:05] <rhizmoe> bkerensa: which ones, the black rounded box up on the right?
[00:05] <bkerensa> yeah
[00:06] <bkerensa> it keeps popping up saying its uploading "null"
[00:06] <bkerensa> rhizmoe: Yeah ^
[00:06] <toneshifter> checked a few different headphones
[00:06] <rhizmoe> turn off whatever is trying to upload. it's probably not ubuntu
[00:06] <bkerensa> Its UbuntuOne
[00:06] <bkerensa> :P
[00:06] <LAcan> escott, ya, but im not gonna be able to put an echo in betwen the mv command....?
[00:07] <darkenvy> velcroshooz, what is a cli? how do I use dd to move the iso onto it?
[00:07] <bkerensa> rhizmoe: I keep disconnect UbuntuOne but its trying to sync nothing
[00:07] <escott> LAcan, unless your problem is that you don't know the progress from the "mv" command in which case its going to be difficult, because mv doesn't provide any progress information. you might try rsync, or see if there is another tool that you can use
[00:07] <nsd_> LAcan: I think I know a solution for what you're trying to do
[00:07] <kronos321>
[00:07] <kronos321>
[00:07] <kronos321>
[00:07] <FloodBot1> kronos321: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:07] <bkerensa> rhizmoe: I even rebooted and it starts again after boot but this is something new since my last update to natty
[00:07] <dusf> toneshifter: try 'alsamixer' in terminal - may or may not help you to confirm all channels are at maximum volume...
[00:07] <rhizmoe> ubuntuone? is that the software center thing?
[00:07] <bkerensa> rhizmoe: If I can figure out what process it is then I can apport-bug
[00:07] <nsd_> LAcan: You basically need two processes executing simultaneously, so you need a way of doing the mv and when the mv is done, have it write a file or something that your progress script looks for
[00:08]  * rhizmoe a little n00by on the ubuntu-specific stuff
[00:08] <edbian> dusf: Can you explain this to me?  It looks like a windows 7 ntfs partition.  What is the document and settings shortcut there?  folder is this in Ubuntu?
[00:08] <bkerensa> rhizmoe: No UbuntuOne is the cloud syncing system
[00:08] <kronos321> daaa
[00:08] <nsd_> LAcan: So the progress script runs until the mv finishes. It won't tell you the progress of the move, just that it's working
[00:08] <bkerensa> rhizmoe: Automatically syncs documents
[00:08] <rhizmoe> bkerensa: notification-area-applet i see on mine
[00:08] <rhizmoe> bkerensa: right, i rmember now
[00:08] <bkerensa> k
[00:08]  * kronos321 testing
[00:08] <LAcan> nsd_, no i dont think so... i just want to know what percentage of the current single file has been moved, similar to how the GUI does it
[00:08] <nsd_> LAcan: Then you can't use mv for that
[00:08] <rhizmoe> dotmac type thing
[00:08] <darkenvy> hmmm
[00:08] <bkerensa> k
[00:08] <bkerensa> yeah
[00:08] <toneshifter> as i said the sound is on
[00:08] <bkerensa> exactly
[00:08] <anthony__> greetings.  I have an old HDD taken out of my old acer aspire.  it came with two ~30 partitions (vfat).  I have it in an external USB caddy.  when I plug it in the two partitions open in nautilus, but they appear to be empty.  they are not empty.  what's going on?
[00:09] <LAcan> nsd_, well like... how does nautilus move stuff? can I call that command from the CLI?
[00:09] <bkerensa> thanks for the info Im gonna drop off apport the bug and stuff
[00:09] <rhizmoe> bkerensa: also look at uone's settings to have it stop telling you stuff
[00:09] <darkenvy> Does anyone know how to dd an iso to a flash drive?
[00:09] <nsd_> LAcan: That's end of story for mv; like escott said, rsync (iirc) does show the progress of a move.
[00:09] <toneshifter> alsa just do not switch output after the headphones jack is plugged
[00:09] <bkerensa> k
[00:09] <toneshifter> and still plays on the speakers
[00:09] <rhizmoe> good luck
[00:09] <MonkeyDust> folx, a superblock error when i try to mount an usb external hdd - i tried tune2fs - it worked before - hints & tips?
[00:09] <nsd_> LAcan: Nautilus probably does it very low-level to show you progress
[00:09] <Phearret_> Hi all ... any solution yet for the natty update and getting wireless disabled ?
[00:09] <nsd_> LAcan: afaik there isn't a nautilus command, so to speak, that you could use; take a look at rsync though
[00:10] <dusf> edbian: this is on my DUMP partition which is ntfs, I have WIN 7 symlinking the users and program files dir to DUMP, the purpose was to have the windows partition at a fixed size, and when i install programs they go to DUMP
[00:10] <LAcan> thanks for that, im looking it up now escott  nsd_
[00:10] <nsd_> Anyone having issues with unclean shutdowns in 11.04 that might know what would cause it?
[00:10] <dusf> edbian: means i don't have to resize my Windows partitions
[00:10] <dusf> limited for space here
[00:10] <Omen_20> How do you move pinned apps in the unity bar? I want to change the order.
[00:11] <escott> LAcan, your alternative is backgrounding mv, and running ls in a loop to determine the file size and calculating the progress
[00:11] <escott> Omen_20, drag the icon out to the middle of the screen then drag it up and down
[00:11] <LAcan> escott, nsd_ does rsync require a daemon running on the target machine...? cuz its a windows box
[00:11] <boldfilter> i need to restore my acpi tables
[00:12] <edbian> dusf: So this is ls -l /media/DUMP ?
[00:12] <nsd_> LAcan: I have no experience with using rsync to a remote host, but I'm pretty sure that's one of its primary uses
[00:12] <escott> LAcan, shouldn't if it is locally mounted
[00:12] <qin> LAcan: for file you can use pv
[00:13] <nsd_> LAcan: I think rsync will work through ssh and other mechanisms
[00:13] <LAcan> qin, what is pv?
[00:13] <dusf> edbian: yes
[00:13] <qin> LAcan: And this is it (also for file): http://chris-lamb.co.uk/2008/01/24/can-you-get-cp-to-give-a-progress-bar-like-wget/
[00:13] <Hilikus> when I try to play something using alsa it says the device is being used. how can i see which process is using it?
[00:13] <qin> LAcan: From "man pv": pv - monitor the progress of data through a pipe
[00:14] <edbian> dusf: So your problem is with file placed in... ?
[00:14] <escott> what a terrible abuse of tracing
[00:14] <aj00200> Is there a way to reinstall ubuntu without touching my home directory?
[00:14] <LAcan> wow qin these are great links!
[00:14] <edbian> !home
[00:14] <nsd_> LAcan qin: That's quite a clever hack
[00:15] <dusf> danslo: /media/DUMP/downloads
[00:15] <aj00200> edbian: thanks, looking
[00:15] <edbian> aj00200: Follow those instruction to put it on a separate partition (assuming it isn't already)
[00:15] <dusf> edbian even
[00:15] <edbian> dusf: even??
[00:15] <dusf> edbian: but the problem is that even when the file is downloaded to ~/Downloads i have to chmod +x filename.exe it manually
[00:15] <escott> aj00200, i heard someone say there is an option to preserve the home directory during an install. i'm not sure if it is true though
[00:15] <dusf> edbian: i sais danslo's name instead of yours
[00:15] <dusf> pleae read above
[00:15] <qin> nsd_: the site is awesome too ;) neat!
[00:16] <troller> HI
[00:16] <Phearret_> I have a RTL8101E/RTL8102E Realtek wireless that was disabled by the update.
[00:16] <dusf> when i chmod +x filename.exe in /media/DUMP/Downloads it still won't open, in ~/Downloads if i do the same it will let me open it, but even at that i shouldn't have to do this everytime i want to open a .exe
[00:16] <boldfilter> can anyone tell me how to repair my acpi
[00:16] <LAcan> qin, i think im gonna go with pv.. little confused though...
[00:16] <dusf> edbian
[00:16] <aj00200> escott: thanks. I'll look for that first then
[00:17] <edbian> dusf:  Ahh, we have to change the umask of the file.
[00:17] <Skaperen> is there any document that explains how to "batch" or "script" the various configurations (e.g. direct file modification by a script) that need to be applied to a fresh new installation of Ubuntu ... so I can avoid having to do all those things manually?
[00:17] <escott> aj00200, just remember -- "always make backups"
[00:17] <walllable> how do i change my name without restarting the chat?
[00:18] <aj00200> escott: well, I don't have much important stuff. Everything I *need* is on github or launchpad. The rest is just reinstalling a bunch of programs and recustomising to some extent
[00:18] <dusf> edbian: go on
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> Skaperen: you can modify files using bash, i'd ask in #bash for help :)
[00:18] <edbian> dusf: I was reading :)
[00:19] <dusf> edbian: if relevant i did my fresh install with a different username and computer name than i had when i would have been using /media/DUMP/ previously...
[00:19] <Zoohouse> I am having trouble loading a ICC profile that I want my monitor to use.. Anyone knows how? I've already used xcalib and gnome-color-manger with no luck...
[00:19] <escott> Skaperen, i think there is a tool (primarily oriented at companies like dell) to create ubuntu install media from a configured system
[00:19] <edbian> dusf: I think you have to set the umask for the Downloads folder to 013
[00:19] <dusf> i don't see why this would cause me problems with the file when it's downloaded to my /home partition though - downloaded from mirc.co.uk
[00:19] <edbian> dusf: like this umask 013 /path/to/Downloads
[00:19] <Skaperen> ActionParsnip: I seriously doubt #bash people know which files to find all these things in ... oh, FYI, I am an experienced bash coder, and have even written a chapter in a sysadmin book on how to code in bash
[00:20] <edbian> dusf: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/understanding-linux-unix-umask-value-usage.html  umask is what decides what permissions things get when they're created
[00:20] <Crazed_Persona> Ok. This is gonna sound really noobish but how do you set a program to run at start up in 11.04?
[00:20] <edbian> dusf: Each folder has a umask which determines the permissions of things created inside that folder
[00:20] <LAcan> qin, im a little confused as to pv's use.. do I just pipe the mv to pv ie: pv | mv filename destination ?
[00:20] <edbian> Crazed_Persona: System -> Admin -> Startup
[00:20] <edbian> Crazed_Persona: sorry, system preferences -> startup app
[00:20] <dusf> edbian: done, testing
[00:20] <Skaperen> ActionParsnip: the issue is about finding which files need to be changed, and their syntax if a man page doesn't tell it, for each of the GUI config settings
[00:20] <qin> LAcan: cat src_file | pv [options?] > dest_file (not very fast or very precise), also cp (not in ubuntu) have --prog or -g option (maybe own build?)
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> Skaperen: no but they can tell you how to use sed and such to modify what you need
[00:21] <Crazed_Persona> I know that. Where are the programs located to add to there?
[00:21] <edbian> dusf: But warned.  Downloading things not from the repos and running them on linux is the best way to get a virus
[00:21] <edbian> Crazed_Persona: mostly /usr/bin
[00:21] <aj00200> Crazed_Persona: press the super key (windows key) and search for startup
[00:21] <Skaperen> ActionParsnip: I can assure you I know about bash, sed, awk, and many other tools of the trade ... what I'm looking for is Ubuntu specifics
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> Skaperen: you will need to MD5 test the files, make a change then MD5 test again to see which have changed
[00:21] <zelozelos> i have a desktop connected to a router/modem via ethernet, and a lappie that connects to the same router/modem wireless. i want to share hard drives between the two what 2 i need 2 do?
[00:21] <edbian> Crazed_Persona: But if you can type the name of the program at the terminal you can type that name in the startup apps gui box thingy
[00:22] <LAcan> qin, why cat tho? could I do a "mv source | pv > target?
[00:22] <dusf> edbian: it's only really windows programs
[00:22] <Skaperen> ActionParsnip: tried that ... usually a few hundred files change by just having been even looking at the GUI
[00:22] <Crazed_Persona> I know the name of the program how it is displayed.
[00:22] <edbian> dusf: Why are you running windows programs in Ubuntu?
[00:22] <edbian> What are you talking about?
[00:22] <Skaperen> ActionParsnip: hence this is why I am looking for a document
[00:22] <dusf> edbian: i had thought there were only ever 2/3 viruses in history on linux
[00:22] <dusf> edbian: i want to install WoW, mirc is just a small program with an installer for testing
[00:22] <edbian> dusf: There are hundreds of them but they are proof of concept.  Their are none in the wild.  They require you to do things like download them and explicitly run them
[00:22] <Skaperen> ActionParsnip: for example, which file to change, and how, to disable automounting
[00:23] <dusf> edbian: same error The file '/home/dusf/Downloads/mirc719.exe' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied from an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit.
[00:23] <edbian> dusf: Are you using wine or something?
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> Skaperen: i see, if you change a text value, grep for the before and after and you can see what's what. Most stuff hides in gconf
[00:23] <PSPman123> i made the startup thing make google chrome startup on boot-up, because i usually use the internet on this every day.
[00:23] <escott> LAcan, you can't move the file into a pipe, move expects two arguments. cat sends it to standard out which gets piped and then redirected to a file.
[00:23] <tepster> Is there a way to get rid of the email icon and empathy menu at the top right in Ubuntu?
[00:23] <dusf> edbian: i am trying to open .exe with WINE program loader
[00:23] <edbian> dusf: It only changes the permissions of files created in that folder
[00:23] <dusf> it works when i open it with the wine command from terminal
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> dusf: you needto mark the file executable
[00:23] <dusf> edbian: what about files downloaded to that folder
[00:23] <dusf> ActionParsnip: that is not working
[00:23] <kaushal> Hi
[00:23] <escott> Skaperen, what exactly do you want to accomplish. do you want to master your own install media, or do you want to vcs the system?
[00:23] <edbian> dusf: That's because you have permission to execute wine  (which is in /usr/bin)
[00:23] <LAcan> escott, thatll work for binaries as well? no crazy slowdown or anything...?
[00:23] <Skaperen> ActionParsnip: so these files are not documented?
[00:23] <dusf> ActionParsnip: through the GUI, i don't have the option
[00:24] <edbian> dusf: Files downloaded into that folder should get rwxrw---
[00:24] <codex84> crysis 2
[00:24] <codex84> dont play
[00:24] <edbian> dusf: You know that you can chmod +x that file right?
[00:24] <escott> LAcan, its slower, but pipes are pretty fast. the biggest concern would be sparse files would get blown up
[00:24] <dusf> edbian: i just redownloaded ti, didn't work
[00:24] <codex84> anybody??
[00:24] <edbian> dusf: What permissions does it have?
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> Skaperen: i'm not aware of them personally. They will be heavily documented due to the nature of the OS
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> dusf: you do
[00:24] <dusf> edbian: yes, but that will only work when i chmod +x the file when downloaded to ~/Downloads not when i chmod +x it when downloaded to /media/DUMP/Downloads
[00:24] <dusf> ActionParsnip: i use thunar file manager, and do not
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> dusf: then use CLI
[00:25] <Crazed_Persona> If anyone can help me I will give the teamviewer code and you can come do it yourself.
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> dusf: chmod +x filename.exe
[00:25] <Skaperen> escott: I want to construct a set of scripts (numbered to run in the right order) which I can load in after the install, which will make all the changes ... I know how to make changes to text files in bash or binary files in C ... I just need to know which, and semantics if the settings are coded, such as numbers
[00:25] <edbian> dusf: You mean you can't chmod +x things in /media/DUMP/Downloads ?
[00:25] <edbian> ActionParsnip: He just explained how that isn't working.
[00:25] <dusf> ActionParsnip: http://oi56.tinypic.com/2ni5t9f.jpg
[00:25] <escott> Skaperen, but why have you decided upon scripts. thats really what I am asking. what about scripts do you like?
[00:26] <dusf> edbian: i can, but it makes no difference
[00:26] <dusf> ActionParsnip: in 10.10 this was not required, there must be some reason i have to in 11.04
[00:26] <edbian> dusf: Is /media/DUMP/Downloads on NTFS ?
[00:26] <Skaperen> escott: if they have a way to make these changes at the install ISO mastering stage, that might also work ... but it still needs to be script based because the scripts will be making decisions (e.g. not each machine will be alike)
[00:26] <dusf> /media/DUMP is ntfs
[00:26] <dusf> ~/Downloads is ext4
[00:26] <dusf> i have to eat
[00:26] <dusf> back soon
[00:26] <edbian> dusf: Change the permissions for NTFS files / folders in windows
[00:26] <edbian> dusf: That is the issue
[00:26] <Skaperen> escott: that would mean each machine has to have its own individual ISO to install from if I configure that way
[00:27] <edbian> dusf: cya
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> dusf: what is the output of: sudo apt-get -y install pastebinit; lsb_release -a | pastebinit
[00:27] <escott> Skaperen, there is a company that makes a "git for the entire system" trying to find the name
[00:27] <LAcan> oh this pv is pretty sexy
[00:27] <escott> Skaperen, they are oriented at exactly this use case, where you vcs the entire os, and then patch your changes into it
[00:27] <porter1> Anyone know of a program that will generate a basic user-friendly terminal menu (like selecting a set of options)?
[00:27] <Skaperen> escott: I don't know what you mean by that.  I know what git is, but I don't understand how you're applying it for this case
[00:28] <escott> Skaperen, if i can find their website ill send it to you
[00:28] <Skaperen> escott: what does "vcs the entire os" mean?
[00:28] <kenneth_reitz> Does debian's packaging follow the same 'no major release software upgrades' rule as ubuntu?
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> kenneth_reitz: ask in #debian
[00:29] <kenneth_reitz> ActionParsnip: thanks
[00:29] <Skaperen> escott: if the changes are not done by my scripts, it will be hard to do because the changes will be different ... i.e. if they provide a GUI toolkit to make the changes, it won't gain me anything because I'd still have to manually configure each machine (it would only change the order of steps to do it all)
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> Skaperen: you could configure the GUI etc, then archive the setting folders, then just restore and chown
[00:31] <Skaperen> ActionParsnip: but then I have to do that "configure the GUI" all over again for the next machine ... the objective of the scripts is to make it so I don't have to do these GUI steps (which are different for each machine)
[00:31] <LAcan> Skaperen, tweak ubuntu
[00:31] <Skaperen> ActionParsnip: I can make the scripts smart ... I have done so for stuff like the apache configs, for example
[00:31] <porter1> I found MaxMenu, but it would be great if I could find something in the repos
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> Skaperen: makes sense, could ask in #gnome perhaps
[00:32] <escott> Skaperen, look at Conary and or Foresight Linux. I believe it is designed in such a way that you could layer it on top of apt
[00:32] <Skaperen> LAcan: requires a knowledge base I don't have ... e.g. which files hold which config states
[00:32] <Sir_Gabriel> Is there something like esword for Ubuntu?
[00:32] <Skaperen> ActionParsnip: most of this is for server edition, so gnome isn't even there
[00:32] <escott> Skaperen, otherwise if all the changes you need to make are in /etc you could use something like etc-keeper to construct patches and then apply them
[00:33] <Skaperen> escott: a lot might be, but maybe not all ... once I have the documentation I seek, that should tell me if so
[00:34] <Skaperen> escott: this all seems to beg for a new wiki dedicated for people to contribute their findings for how to script up (e.g. avoid GUI) various config changes
[00:34] <escott> Skaperen, this lwn article may explain conary a bit better than their website http://lwn.net/Articles/411962/
[00:34] <Skaperen> escott: OK, will look
[00:34] <grindel> I'm sort of a newbie running ubuntu 11 fresh install I can't access shared drives on my windows network, can anyone help me do that?>>>I have tried the help files with no effect.  I *think* samba is running and smb but I don't see it in "processes"
[00:34] <Sir_Gabriel> LOL!!! @ the name gnubie
[00:36] <escott> porter1, most of the time this is done with curses, I don't know how high-level it is though
[00:36] <Sir_Gabriel> !curses
[00:36] <Skaperen> escott: looks like an alternate package manager ... but does it know how to change files, based on being called from a script with the info?
[00:37] <Al_nz1> any grub gurus here?
[00:37] <monfis> #debian-pl
[00:37] <Al_nz1> I am trying to get grub to pickup the grub.conf - but its missing it for some reason
[00:37] <Skaperen> escott: here's an example that does involve Gnome or KDE depending on which desktop you have ... make a command line script that when given the path to an image file, will set the login screen background image to that
[00:37] <adubz> can someone help me usb tether with android
[00:37] <escott> Skaperen, the company positions itself as a "you run redhat, suse, ubuntu on your network... our product will allow you to isolate the changes needed for a particular purpose of your server (this is the smtp server, this is the web server, this is the...) and roll it out wherever you want"
[00:38] <escott> Skaperen, it may be overkill for what you want
[00:38] <maheanuu> Can someone help me set up Alsa, I removed Pulse Audio and installed Alsa but now I have nothing
[00:38] <Skaperen> escott: but it scares me that it may be yet-another-webadmin (but maybe not web based) thing, which has a narrow set of concepts that it can work with
[00:39] <bike> im in trouble with my usb stick... i tried installing ubuntu to it yesterday... from the same drive ,different partition, it paused for a very long time after complaining i didnt unmount it... and now it doesnt work at all, ive tried eeverything i can think of, including a low level format, and every command i can think of that should unscrew it, but it just doesnt work, dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sdd for instance , nooo luck, i cant format
[00:39] <bike>  it, mount it, write to it, write an mbr or anything anymore. all i get is this :[  663.961405] sd 10:0:0:0: [sdd] Sense Key : No Sense [current] [  663.961422] sd 10:0:0:0: [sdd] <<vendor>> ASC=0xff ASCQ=0xffASC=0xff <<vendor>> ASCQ=0xff [  694.160581] usb 1-1: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 12 [  709.272073] usb 1-1: device descriptor read/64, error -110 etc etc, [  939.872587] hub 3-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB
[00:39] <bike> device on port 1
[00:39] <FloodBot1> bike: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:39] <escott> Skaperen, and i think the conary approach would be "change the background through the gui" then use conary to identify what was changed on the system, and turn that into a "patch" which you can bundle with other patches to make your "distribution"
[00:39] <Skaperen> escott: if it isn't command line based, it will be too awkward to use (because the decisions will be made by my scripts)
[00:39] <Sir_Gabriel> maheanuu go to terminal and type alsa load or something like that...
[00:39] <Sir_Gabriel> I don't remember for sure
[00:40] <Vustom> What's that audio program that you can use in the terminal and it comes with Ubuntu and starts with a? I forgot what It's called and I need to use it. :C
[00:40] <Sir_Gabriel> maybe alsa reload or alsa force-reload?
[00:40] <escott> Skaperen, the gdm example is a great one because I have no earthly idea where the gdm config would be stored
[00:40] <Skaperen> Vustom: alsa?
[00:41] <Vustom> Skaperen; thanks!
[00:41] <Vustom> ..
[00:41] <Vustom> What's the full name of it?
[00:41] <escott> Skaperen, but it would probably involve dropping some files in /usr/share, and editing a file in /etc
[00:41] <Vustom> I typed it into terminal and it didn't work. :C
[00:41] <escott> Vustom, just type alsa[TAB] for completion
[00:41] <Vustom> o.o?
[00:41] <Skaperen> escott: that's one of the things I did manage to find and get it scripted ... but there are probably hundreds more ... it could take me 3-4 months to figure it all out doing it the way I did that
[00:42] <maheanuu> alsa
[00:42] <Skaperen> escott: which I why I wanted to cheat and find a document
[00:42] <Vustom> vustom@Vustom-Ubuntu:~$ alsa Usage: /sbin/alsa {unload|reload|force-unload|force-reload|suspend|resume}
[00:42] <grindel> grindel
[00:42] <grindel> oops
[00:42] <escott> Skaperen, there is a mastering application in synaptic for mastering your own install media, it might help
[00:43] <kaushal> I have upgraded java6 from u22 to u24, I get this issue http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/606323/ I am on Ubuntu 8.04 Linux. Any Clue ?
[00:43] <escott> Vustom, you probable want alsamixer, but just type alsa[TAB] to see your options
[00:43] <kermit> do all panics not sync?
[00:43] <Skaperen> escott: what can be complicated is in many cases, various options that are seen as a menu of choices in a GUI are stored in the files as one of a few different numeric values, which no clue as to what those numbers mean short of digging into source code ... and this isn't a scalable activity for so many things to do
[00:43] <codex84> how would u update your nvidia
[00:43] <codex84> craphics card
[00:43] <maheanuu> SG should I use a sudo in front of that?
[00:43] <codex84> ?
[00:44] <Skaperen> escott: and in other cases there may be words, but still not always clear what to use ... one has to try all the various choices at the GUI tool and see how they change in the file
[00:45] <Skaperen> escott: here's one for you ... if you run adduser to add a user, it might NOT even show up at all in the GUI user/groups tool
[00:45] <maheanuu> Sir Gabriel, so far no joy
[00:45] <walter> i cant install ubuntu.. it says upgrade bios or use forced=something..
[00:45] <tbruff13> does anyone use the Awn dock
[00:45] <josker1> a
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> tbruff13: many do, yes
[00:45] <rcmaehl> My pc is mad at me. When I try to transfer "certain important and very private personal files" to my new hdd I get invalid argument while all other files copy without error. What could be causing the error?
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> walter: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[00:46] <grindel> I'm sort of a newbie running ubuntu 11 fresh install I can't access shared drives on my windows network, can anyone help me do that?>>>I have tried the help files with no effect.  I *think* samba is running and smb but I don't see it in "processes" >>>ideas, anyone??  Is there a way to access a network share through terminal?
[00:46] <Sir_Gabriel> codex84 system > admin> hardware drivers
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> grindel: is the windows system, windows 7 per chance?
[00:46] <Skaperen> escott,ActionParsnip: I guess I'll just keep chugging along at it the old way ... was just hoping someone had documented it ... I'll try to document the things I do find
[00:46] <walter> ActionParsnip: nope..cause i already used the cd in other pc's and it goes without error
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> walter: does the RAM test OK?
[00:47] <tbruff13> ok I wanted to add an extender to make it split applets up system applets on one side and windows on the other but when i click on someting an icon pops up on both sides of the extender is their any way i can fix this or any other dock i can use that has this function
[00:47] <qin> rcmaehl: Give failing command and ls -l very/important/files (paste.ubuntu.com for multiline paste)
[00:47] <escott> Skaperen, yeah im not aware of any single consolidated source of documentation. its all buried in man pages and application websites
[00:47] <walter> ActionParsnip: i didnt actually do the ram test cause it doesnt appear :)
[00:47] <Skaperen> ActionParsnip: I'll call the document "auto-pimping your ubuntu" or something like that
[00:48] <rcmaehl> qin: Invalid argument is failing command and the pastebin wouldn't be very SFW
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> walter: it doesn't by default, when you see the keyboard + stickman screen, press SPACE. You can also test the CD for defects there as well
[00:48] <escott> qin, i don't think rcmaehl wants us to see the names of those "private and personal files"
[00:48] <Skaperen> ActionParsnip: a lot of it is adding on packages ... and that part is easy
[00:48] <grindel> no, actionparsnip, it is a mixed network, with an xp machin, vista, and win7 machine accessing it, but also a MYbook network drive, which is really my goal to access
[00:48] <Sir_Gabriel> didn't they try that with automatix?
[00:48] <jahman> hi linux people
[00:48] <rcmaehl> escott <- what he said
[00:48] <phoenixsampras> Why Ubuntu 11.04 is TRYING to IMITATE to MACOS?
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> grindel: if you run:  smbtree    do you see the shares?
[00:48] <qin> rcmaehl: Do you ues nautilus to copy?
[00:49] <LjL> !ot | phoenixsampras
[00:49] <walter> ActionParsnip: i see.. so what am i going to do? btw my pc is kinda old
[00:49] <qin> escott: Yeah, it helps
[00:49] <rcmaehl> qin: yes drag and drop
[00:49] <jahman> can some help with downloading flash videos
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> walter: old is moot, as long as the ram is healthy it will be fine
[00:49] <rcmaehl> although I could do cp
[00:49] <rcmaehl> wait
[00:49] <hoho`> any app for ext3 data recovery pls?
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> jahman: you can use extensions / addons to do that
[00:49] <rcmaehl> you can't cp in terminal from a windows share
[00:49] <LjL> !recover | hoho`
[00:50] <hoho`> thanks
[00:50] <escott> rcmaehl, check the permissions to see that you have the right to read those files
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> hoho`: your backups will do a better job
[00:50] <walter> ActionParsnip: i have sempron 3000+ 64bit enabled 512 ram and 256 vga
[00:50] <Skaperen> BTW ... I just tried 11.04 for the very first time today ... but I couldn't find where to do the system settings ... so I got frustrated and went to just shut it down ... then d'oh! there it was in the shutdown menu
[00:50] <hoho`> i erased the partition by mistake
[00:50] <qin> rcmaehl: ls -l /files/you/do/not/want/to/show to conform that you own them, cp /that/files /new/dest/of/that/files
[00:50] <Sir_Gabriel> do flash videos stay in your cache? maybe copy and paste from there?
[00:50] <rcmaehl> qin: okay
[00:50] <jahman> I downloaded the file but having a problem with gstreamer
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> walter: my media server uses one of those, it's not that old
[00:50] <escott> hoho`, if all you did was delete the partition table you could recreate the partition table if you know *EXACTLY* what size it was
[00:51] <dusf> edbian: that is not the issue, and i had no problems with exe before fresh install xubuntu
[00:51] <LjL> escott, and if you don't, testdisk or gpart to the rescue
[00:51] <Skaperen> escott: that's always fun (have done it many times) ... gotta be SECTOR exact, too
[00:51] <edbian> dusf: can you show me ls -l /path/to/file.exe  ?
[00:51] <qin> rcmaehl: Oh, windows shares... No clue than (using usb stick would solve problem)
[00:52] <dusf> also, i have the problem on the ext4 partition too
[00:52] <Vustom> I need to get my sound to go through the Line-in port in my pc..
[00:52] <escott> LjL, cool never heard of testdisk
[00:52] <tbruff13> ok I wanted to add an extender to make it split applets up system applets on one side and windows on the other but when i click on someting an icon pops up on both sides of the extender is their any way i can fix this or any other dock i can use that has this function can any one help me with this
[00:52] <dusf> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/VjYMww8Y
[00:52] <kermit> why would init exit?  "attempted to kill init!" panic
[00:52] <kaushal> I have upgraded java6 from u22 to u24, I get this issue http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/606323/ I am on Ubuntu 8.04 Linux. Any Clue ?
[00:52] <dusf> edbian: which file, when on /media/DUMP, or ~/Downloads?
[00:52] <Vustom> I was able to do it before but can't remember how I did it, I'm using my Xbox and the sound goes thru my Xbox and into my pc, then out into my headphones..
[00:52] <edbian> dusf: The actual .exe that is giving you trouble
[00:53] <walter> ActionParsnip: i see.. btw i recieved help from yesterday(philippine time) from Dr_Willis...he said something like nomod something
[00:53] <rcmaehl> qin: well it's a windows share on ubuntu
[00:53] <Skaperen> kermit: maybe it could not find something it needed?
[00:53] <rcmaehl> qin: the regular ubuntu share method was screwed up (I'm still figuring out why)
[00:53] <escott> rcmaehl, make sure there aren't any strange characters in the filenames
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> walter: let me see what that is
[00:54] <rcmaehl> kk
[00:54] <dusf> edbian: i have the problem slightly different in both places
[00:54] <escott> rcmaehl, are you copying from ntfs to ext4 or the other way around
[00:54] <rcmaehl> escott: ext4 to ext4
[00:54] <edbian> dusf: What is the difference?  Can you show me ls -l on one of the files please?
[00:54] <tbruff13> hello does any one know a way to fix this or a dock besides awn that can do this
[00:54] <Sir_Gabriel> hates nt fs
[00:54] <dusf> edbian: when i chmod +x /Downloads/filename.exe i can then open it but this is not a solution as i shouldn't have to chmod all the time, when i chmod +x on /media/DUMP/filename.exe i still can't open it
[00:55] <Igor_Elez> I need some help for borders on all my windows, problem is in metacity! i done "metacity  --replace" and it works only for that sasion, on the next log-in it gets back beeing without borders... HELP anyone?
[00:55] <Sir_Gabriel> tbfyrr13 fix what exactly?
[00:55] <edbian> dusf: Yes.  I know.  Please show me ls -l /media/DUMP/filename.exe
[00:55] <Sir_Gabriel> nevermind
[00:55] <qin> rcmaehl: You should be able to copy with sudo, chown after.
[00:55] <escott> rcmaehl, we really need to see ls -l on the files and source and destination folder. just edit the filenames and paste it to us
[00:56] <walter> ActionParsnip: its one of the opts in the f6 menu on the stickman screen
[00:56] <dusf> edbian: http://pastebin.com/Wj1RUiwh
[00:56] <edbian> dusf: Thanks
[00:56] <rcmaehl> qin escott nvm I zipped the files and moved them over.
[00:56] <escott> dusf, /media/DUMP may be mounted as noexec
[00:56] <Igor_Elez> I need some help regarding metacity, cant get it to work
[00:56] <Igor_Elez> any help?
[00:57] <Al_nz1> any grub gurus here?
[00:57] <edbian> dusf: And if you run chmod +x /media/DUMP/Downloads/mirc719.exe   you get an error?
[00:57] <Minnen> !grub
[00:57] <escott> Igor_Elez, do you have graphical effects enabled (like shadows and wobbly windows etc)
[00:57] <Igor_Elez> i will see that now
[00:58] <dusf> edbian: no response, it just doesn't make any difference, i still can't open it
[00:58] <edbian> dusf: did the output of ls -l  change?
[00:58] <dusf> but when i chmod +x ~/Downloads it does make a difference, and i can output it
[00:59] <escott> dusf, check "mount" and see if /media/DUMP is mounted noexec
[00:59] <Vustom> I can't seem to hear anything with Analog Line-in?
[00:59] <tbruff13> does anyone have any ideas on how to fix the awn dock
[00:59] <Vustom> When I'm in PulseAudio I can see the music bar moving so it's making sound, I just can't hear it?
[00:59] <kermit> Skaperen: yeah except this is while its already bene running a while
[00:59] <edbian> dusf: I'm thinking it's due to the underlying FS.  ~/Downloads is ext  and the other is ntfs.  I think maybe the owner name / number is different on linux and windows so the permissions are getting messed up
[00:59] <escott> Igor_Elez, if you do then you have compiz not metacity, and your problem is with compiz
[00:59] <dusf> edbian: http://pastebin.com/Yw4Urggv
[00:59] <kaushal> checking in again for the query ?
[01:00] <dusf> edbian: many of the folders i created on /DUMP i did prior to my last install, i had a different username
[01:00] <jaequery> anyone know any good alternative to something like chef?
[01:00] <Minnen> http://fun.drno.de/flash/unknown.swf
[01:00] <Sir_Gabriel> how do I add another panel on another monitor?
[01:01] <edbian> dusf: what is this most recent pastebin?  df?
[01:01] <Minnen> lol soz cuolndt hold my self
[01:01] <darkorical> can anyone help with installing a 56k modem
[01:01] <RudeTux> someone to help with mythbuntu plz?
[01:02] <dusf> edbian: mount
[01:02] <Igor_Elez> escott I am using Ubuntu Netbook Remix 10.04 on my netbook, yesterday I enabled "Normal" visual effects in "Appearance menu. but upon new boot it went back to "None"... is the problem in that? and can I get it working again?
[01:02] <schoppenhauer> hello. is it possible with the alternative installer to install ubuntu on an already existing encrypted lvm?
[01:02] <schoppenhauer> the last time i tried something like that made the installer break my encrypted partition
[01:03] <RavenHursT> ok.. wtf... When I do 'drush features' it says that one of my features is in an 'overriden' state.. but when I run 'drush feature [feature name]' I get 'Feature is in its default state. No diff needed.'  What gives??
[01:03] <CajunTechie> Hey everyone, I've got a quick question for anyone who's seen anything. I've been told that Unity will be the ONLY option in 11.11 and that we won't be able to install any other desktop. True? False? Rumor?
[01:03] <escott> Igor_Elez, compiz won't run on some hardware (that isn't powerful enough), and then you have to drop back to metacity which looks the same but has no effects. if compiz is not working properly on your hardware (and it probably isn't on a netbook) I would disable all effects, and then see if metacity comes back. if metacity doesn't come back then start metacity with metacity --replace and add it as a startup program in gnome-session-pr
[01:03] <escott> operties
[01:04] <edbian> dusf: ok.  Can you show me ls -nl /media/DUMP/whatever/file.exe  ?
[01:04] <RavenHursT> Same thing w/ 'drush fr'... wtf?!?
[01:04] <RavenHursT> Arg.. soooo ofrustrating..
[01:04] <darkorical> IM running 11.04 server 64bit edition I am trying to install a pci modem but wvdial cant detect it and it isnt working through minicom either
[01:04] <Igor_Elez> escott thanks, will try now
[01:06] <ChronicSyncope> when i plug my iphone in dbus-daemon shoots up to 50+%
[01:06] <ChronicSyncope> in system monitor
[01:06] <magusOTB> I just upgraded to 11.04 on my netbook, and its networking has become completely hosed. It gets an IP address, but when I try to ping anything outside of my subnet, I get "network unreachable"
[01:06] <Overlord> How would I get the ubuntu software center on a computer with out it?
[01:06] <Overlord> but in the ubuntu line
[01:07] <magusOTB> It can't do DNS resolution, resolv.conf is always empty
[01:07] <RavenHursT> oops.. .wrong chan... der....
[01:07] <|||||||||> :/
[01:07] <ChronicSyncope> Overlord, try 'sudo apt-get install software-center'
[01:07] <Overlord> apt-get install ubuntu software center?
[01:07] <Overlord> ok :P thx
[01:08] <ChronicSyncope> Overlord, package names cannot contain spaces
[01:08] <Vustom> Can someone help me get the sound to work with Line-in?
[01:08] <html_inprogress> Overlord,  thhats a question i have never heard of,, and a good one
[01:08] <dan-work> overlord, when in doubt, search for it in synaptic package manager
[01:08] <ChronicSyncope> does anyone know why dbus-daemon shoots up to 50+% when i plug in my iphone?
[01:08] <edbian> Overlord: sudo apt-get install software-center
[01:09] <ChronicSyncope> hah. you guys are all too late.
[01:09] <edbian> darn
[01:09] <Overlord> Also, I have an old IBM comp with an external wifi card.  How would I go in getting the WIFI card to run on it with a ubuntu type load installed?
[01:10] <ChronicSyncope> Overlord, by external do you mean USB?
[01:10] <Overlord> no, external as in card bus
[01:10] <FreezingCold> I was just wondering, how well does Ubuntu run on ARM?
[01:10] <Overlord> specifically a D-link card
[01:11] <Overlord> D-link DWL-G630
[01:11] <w30> CajunTechie, Unty is just a box you check n compizConfig Settings Manager that 11.11 keeps reconfiguring for you if you have Unity. You can remove Unity and just go with Compiz.
[01:11] <ChronicSyncope> D-Link DWL-G630 ?
[01:12] <CajunTechie> Thanks W30. Makes me feel much better
[01:12] <Overlord> That's the card bus wifi card i have
[01:12] <MattEdward> I was considering dual booting ubuntu onto my windows laptop since I want to hold onto my windows install, but came across wubi, does it have the full functionality of an ubuntu install?
[01:12] <Igor_Elez> escott thank you so much, it worked perfectly... I done "sudo metacity --replace" and because it was "none" already selected, i gone to "normal" and then back to "none" effects, on the next boot it worked perfectly :)
[01:12] <Igor_Elez> thanks again :)
[01:12] <grindel> anyone have an idea why smbtree errors out when trying to access network shares with the following? cli_start_connection: failed to connect to BLAH2<20> (<IP_ADDRESS>). Error NT_STATUS_UNSUCCESSFUL
[01:13] <edbian> MattEdward: Yes.  But wubi sometimes makes fixing things more complicated because it is a bit of a hack.
[01:13] <Overlord> WUBI is the name of the install, ME.  It loads aside from windows if you boot the install inside of windows itself.
[01:14] <edbian> Overlord: what?
[01:14] <ChronicSyncope> Overlord, i could be wrong, but i believe you need this driver http://www.ralinktech.com/support.php?s=2
[01:14] <w30> CajunTechie, check this web link:http://jbrouhard.com/?p=29
[01:14] <Overlord> thanks :D
[01:14] <ChronicSyncope> Overlord, the one marked RT2501PCI/mPCI/CB(RT61:RT2561/RT2561S/RT2661)
[01:14] <rcmaehl> Why are HD videos so laggy while their audio isn't?
[01:15] <ChronicSyncope> rcmaehl, that's incredibly vague
[01:15] <zerwas> rcmaehl> on Youtube?
[01:15] <rcmaehl> ChronicSyncope zerwas everywere but dragon player which is from kde
[01:15] <qin> rcmaehl: What palver, mplayer, vlc? Likely not enough video memory, try to scale down, or framedrop
[01:15] <Vustom> Why can't I get Line-in to work? :C
[01:16] <MattEdward> I was considering using photoshop through wine, but I have a feeling it'll be slow on my laptop, so instead of a dual boot--where I'd have to go back and forth between nix and win--Im thinking wubi would be the best way to go, dunno
[01:16] <rcmaehl> qin: everywhere but dragon player which is from kde
[01:16] <FreezingCold> Sorry to be annoying and ask again, but how well does Ubuntu run on ARM?
[01:16] <Vustom> I've turned up everything in alsamixer, and in PulseAudio the sound bar moves when I press a button, but I hear nothing..
[01:16] <rcmaehl> FreezingCold: arm7 or arm9
[01:16] <Igor_Elez> do you ppl believe that Ubuntu will have 200 million users in next 4 years? :) that would be gr8
[01:16] <coz_> FreezingCold,  personally I  dont known sorry guy
[01:16] <Overlord> That RALINK will run the D-link card for me?
[01:17] <FreezingCold> rcmaehl: ARM7, snapdragon
[01:17] <qin> Igor_Elez: It does not have already?
[01:17] <coz_> !arm
[01:17] <edbian> Igor_Elez: Where did you get that stat from?
[01:17] <escott> MattEdward, you may also consider gimp (heresy I know) or !VirtualBox
[01:17] <rcmaehl> FreezingCold: it runs okay depending on the device specs
[01:17] <bc81> what's the channel for ubuntu gamers?
[01:18] <edbian> MattEdward: wubi does not allow you to run Ubuntu while inside windows.  It only allows you to install Ubuntu inside windows.
[01:18] <rcmaehl> !games
[01:18] <qin> Igor_Elez: I may be vrong, but Amazon runs on Ubuntu (which would make 200mil easy).
[01:18] <coz_> #ubuntu-games    ??
[01:18] <edbian> MattEdward: The only way to run one OS inside another is virtual machines
[01:18] <FreezingCold> rcmaehl: I'm thinking of trying to make my own device...
[01:18] <rcmaehl> FreezingCold: O_O
[01:18] <FreezingCold> So I'd be picking the specs
[01:18] <bc81> coz_: no only  3 people in ther
[01:19] <igorel> Igor_Elez here, so Mark Shuttleworth delivers UDS keynote; sets goal for 200 million Ubuntu users in 4 years
[01:19] <igorel> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/?p=14374
[01:19] <FreezingCold> lol
[01:19] <igorel> so, do you ppl believe that Ubuntu will have 200 million users in next 4 years? :)
[01:19] <FreezingCold> Linux is great, but beating Windows is going to take awhile
[01:19] <FreezingCold> Nope
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> FreezingCold: why does it have to 'beat' it?
[01:20] <FreezingCold> I mean by market share
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> FreezingCold: but why?
[01:20] <edbian> Who cares if it ever does
[01:20] <jamiewan_> FreezingCold, ubuntu will never take over windows cause there aren't enuf smart people in the world to take it up
[01:20] <Azelphur> FreezingCold: your wrong, the majority of people want a browser, office, that's it. For the majority of people Ubuntu is better for 2 reasons, 1 it's faster at achieving those goals, 2 it's virus free.
[01:20] <Azelphur> people are slowly starting to realize this :)
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> jamiewan_: remember the old win 3.1 days?
[01:20] <uberjam545> it would have more users than windows if they started selling computers pre installed with it at like best buy
[01:20] <FreezingCold> Azelphur: You're totally right, but people are still not changing over
[01:20] <Azelphur> Linux in some form (probably powered by cell phones, android is a strong candidate) will take over the world before too long :P
[01:21] <jamiewan_> ActionParsnip, trying to forget
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> jamiewan_: messing with config.sys to free up more upper memory
[01:21] <FreezingCold> ubuntu license fees are too high
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> jamiewan_: that sort of thing..
[01:21] <igorel> Azelphur exactly
[01:21] <jamiewan_> yep
[01:21] <igorel> and Games are moving to consoles
[01:21] <Azelphur> FreezingCold: yea, they don't need to, just like the netbook replaced the laptop, the phone will replace the netbook.
[01:21] <coz_> Azelphur,  Dell sells preinstalled Ubuntu systems
[01:21] <coz_> Azelphur,  I have not seen them at best buy  yet!
[01:21] <Azelphur> coz_: I know, that's largely irrelevant for large scale though
[01:21] <igorel> except of WoW and similar xD
[01:21] <walter> ActionParsnip: have you seen it?
[01:21] <FreezingCold> Ubuntu's licensing fees are on par with Windows
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> jamiewan_: then things got better and abstracted, and now theres Win7 or whatever it is now..
[01:21] <FreezingCold> Which is pretty bad
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> walter: seen what?
[01:22] <Azelphur> FreezingCold: no they arn't, Ubuntu is free? o.O
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> jamiewan_: it will get abstracted and more user friendly and companies will start supporting it, which is all it really needs
[01:22] <FreezingCold> Azelphur: If you're going to sell a device with Ubuntu pre-installed, you gotta pay
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> FreezingCold: ubuntu is free
[01:22] <jamiewan_> eventually everyone will have tablets or just mobile devices i think and anything licensed to microtrash is f***ed
[01:22] <walter> ActionParsnip: the error? im using asus k8u-x motherboard
[01:22] <igorel> someone once told me "Windows is going to buy Canonical one day.."
[01:22] <uberjam545> i think buying a system with ubuntu on it would be cheaper
[01:22] <Azelphur> FreezingCold: incorrect. If your going to sell a device, modify Ubuntu, and then still use the Ubuntu brand name, you have to pay.
[01:22] <uberjam545> cuz windows costs like 100 bucks
[01:22] <w30> Linux is already a better desktop; Only thing lacking is a good consolidated configuration interface.
[01:23] <coz_> FreezingCold,  as I said Dell has been sellling linux also specificaslly ubuntu and red hat for some years now
[01:23] <FreezingCold> Azelphur: really?  I thought Dell had to pay for Ubuntu...
[01:23] <Azelphur> FreezingCold: if you sell a device with unmodified  Ubuntu installed, there are no licensing fees.
[01:23] <Azelphur> FreezingCold: yes, that's because they heavily modify it.
[01:23] <FreezingCold> Why would they modify it, and why would they get charged for it?
[01:23] <coz_> and Dell /ubuntu systems are far less expensive than the windows equivelent system
[01:23] <Azelphur> FreezingCold: if they just used a Ubuntu OEM install there would be no licensing fee required
[01:23] <igorel> what would happened if Windows does, one day, buy Canonical? xD
[01:23] <igorel> we go using mint? xD
[01:24] <FreezingCold> Pretty much
[01:24] <walter> i think if ubuntu gets software compatibility like those of a mac it will own pwn windows in no time
[01:24] <FreezingCold> Wouldn't change the game much
[01:24] <Azelphur> FreezingCold: they wanted to use their own repositories and ship with preinstalled uglyness like flash player
[01:24] <Scunizi> Does Libreoffice have a channel?
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> FreezingCold: the fact is, the OS is a TOOL, so if windows can do the systems job better than any other OS, it should be used. If linux does it better then Linux should be used. And so on.
[01:24] <Azelphur> Scunizi: yep, #libreoffice
[01:24] <Scunizi> Azelphur: thanks.
[01:24] <Vustom> Where can I get lib32asound2 for Ubuntu 11.4 32bit?
[01:24] <coz_> I thought I was in offtopic for a minute :)  sorry
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> FreezingCold: this whole "Linux beating Windows" is pathetic at best and I personally think bug #1 is a joke
[01:25] <jamiewan_> the problem is that 95 percent of the world has let microsoft pull the wool over their eyes
[01:25] <jaxxdrew> How do I get a show desktop icon on unity
[01:25] <Azelphur> coz_: the reason they get charged for it is because the GPL states that if you modify something you must give the product a new name I believe
[01:25] <FreezingCold> Azelphur: Why don't they name it CrapDellu?
[01:25] <a7i3n> Linux stands on its own... doesn't need to beat anybody...
[01:25] <Azelphur> coz_: so they are paying to license the Ubuntu brand name for a different product which isn't Ubuntu, basically.
[01:25] <Azelphur> FreezingCold: because they wanted it to be Ubuntu so people would buy it xD
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> jaxxdrew: just use SuperL + D
[01:26] <jamiewan_> a7i3n, i agree
[01:26] <FreezingCold> Say if you run a company, it gets annoying when you pretty much HAVE to pay for Windows or people will complain.
[01:26] <codex84> i install wine but the game doesn;t wanna
[01:26] <codex84> play how can i fix thissss
[01:26] <coz_> jaxxdrew,   you can set the keybinding in ccsm to anything just about
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> Vustom: its just libasound2 in 32bit
[01:26] <walter> guys need some help here.. ubuntu tells me to upgrade bios or use forced something( i cant recall) what should i do?
[01:26] <jaxxdrew> thank you.  Thats all I needed coz_ and ActionParsnip
[01:26] <FreezingCold> walter: Force.  Flashing BIOSes is more risky
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> walter: have you upgraded your BIOS?
[01:27] <coz_> jaxxdrew,  I generally use  F4  for  for show desktop ,, i dont use t hat key much :)
[01:27] <Vustom> Awh.. I still can't get hear anything from Line-in..
[01:27] <walter> FreezingCold: how do i do that?
[01:27] <InfectedSoul> i thought with the latest ubuntu 10.10 2.6.35-24-generic-pae kernel, the Asus USB-N13 300Mbps adapter is fully plug & play.
[01:27] <Vustom> I got it working in Ubuntu 10.10 a few months ago but can't do it in Ubuntu 11.4, forgot how. :/
[01:27] <coz_> walter,  what were you doing ,, was this during install ...yes?
[01:27] <InfectedSoul> i have 10.11 and its not working
[01:27] <walter> ActionParsnip: nope..
[01:27] <walter> coz_, yes
[01:28] <coz_> InfectedSoul,  well thats likely because there is not 10.11  there is 10.04   10.10  and 11.04
[01:28] <InfectedSoul> sorry 11.04
[01:28] <eiriksvin> what  is the wine channel name?
[01:28] <MattEdward> escott, edbian thx, will look into virtualbox
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> eiriksvin: #winehq
[01:28] <coz_> walter,  couple things,,, when you downloaded the iso image ,, did you check the md5sum and then if that was correct did you burn it at 1z ...yes?
[01:28] <eiriksvin> thanz
[01:28] <coz_> walter,  rather 1x
[01:29] <InfectedSoul> or does it need an ethernet cable to see the drivers first
[01:29] <Vustom> Is there meant to be a Line-in option with alsamixer?
[01:29] <walter> coz_, i think there is no problem with the cd since i used it on other pc's and it worked okay
[01:29] <phungvantu> good morning all
[01:29] <coz_> walter,  ok  fair enough,,,  is windows still installed on that system?
[01:29] <Zeranoe> Does anyone know or have a decent guide to top? I'm just trying to find out the overall CPU usage of my computer, or another program that can do it?
[01:30] <grindel> I think I got it!...maybe
[01:30] <walter> coz_, nope.. i removed it and will use ubuntu as my primary os
[01:30] <coz_> Zeranoe,  I preger htop  it has more options
[01:30] <mithridates> anyone knows where is .emacs file in ubuntu? I couldn't find it by locate, should I make it manually?
[01:30] <igorel> POLL: Unity or Gnome 3 Shell ?
[01:30] <coz_> walter,   mmmm but installing fails,,
[01:30] <ghostnik11> hi, did a fresh install of 11.04 and when i tried to import folder of music into banshee, the application of banshee suddenly went dark and has not come back to normal, and its unresponsive
[01:30] <coz_> walter,  maybe try the alternate cd,, or better still the mini cd
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> Zeranoe: look at the load average in top (top line I believe)
[01:31] <Vustom> 3':
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> ghostnik11: kill the app. Did you chown the data to your user?
[01:31] <new2net> my sound does not work (its not my speakers), I tried asoundconf with no luck. I'm out of ideas, anyone know what I should try next?
[01:31] <phungvantu> I don't know why sometime I was logged out without my active action?
[01:31] <coz_> walter,   here is the mini    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD     offers some confort agains packet collisions etc that could possibly corrupt the download
[01:31] <ghostnik11> actionparsnip: what do you mean by chown the data to your user?
[01:32] <coz_> walter,  also it is only 19  megs
[01:32] <walter> coz_, yes.. btw i tried many cds..i have 10.04lts64bit,10.10, 11.04 32bit 11.04 64bit
[01:32] <grindel> ActionP, I did everything suggested on this page...I'm not sure which one did it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1169149...at least smbtree sees things.
[01:32] <Vustom> How to install audigy in ubuntu 11.4?
[01:32] <Zeranoe> ActionParsnip: there are three which is cpu?
[01:32] <coz_> walter, oh!  did they all report the same issue?
[01:32] <phungvantu> I saw log file and i think there some ptoblem with gdm-simple-greeter
[01:32] <phungvantu> Pls help me
[01:33] <walter> coz_, yes.. except for the 64bit 10.04lts
[01:33] <InfectedSoul> so how do u get the asus usb n-13 to work on 11.04
[01:33] <uberjam545> in xubuntu can we make the start menu go to the bottom of the desktop?
[01:33] <coz_> walter,  wow this is n ew and interesting to me,,, so apparenlty the bios is far outdated even for linux !?!  I am surprised
[01:33] <boxbeatsy> hi, is there anyone around who can help me create an intermediate CA?  All I have is the .crt and .ca-bundle, and I"m not sure where to go from here.
[01:33] <walter> coz_, but when i updated it to 10.10 it goes back to the error
[01:34] <phungvantu> I don't know why sometime I was logged out without my active action in Natty?
[01:34] <igorel> walter quick question, why nick "walter"?
[01:34] <phungvantu> pls, help me
[01:34] <walter> coz_, that's what the screen says :) i dont really know what happened
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> Zeranoe: try: top -n 1 | grep "Cpu"
[01:34] <coz_> walter,  ooo,, the only thing I can suggest at this point,, reinstall windows,,, see if there is an update for the bios on that motherboard,, flash it  and try again
[01:34] <walter> igorel, nothing special.. just my nickname :)
[01:35] <Vustom> What option should be for Input Source 1 and Input Source  in alsamixer?
[01:35] <coz_> boxbeatsy,  not sure either off hand,, if no one here can help give the  # #linux channel a try
[01:35] <fisix> lawl
[01:35] <coz_> boxbeatsy,  that is the ##linux channel ,, sorry for typo
[01:35] <walter> coz_, but everyone said flashing bios is too risky :) i cant afford to loose a motherboard since im poor :(
[01:35] <DrSlony> Hey, I'm remotely administrating my family's laptops using X over SSH. How can I open some sort of window so we can chat? They use the latest ubuntu 11.04 with empathy etc. I use gentoo/kde4 and don't have any empathy accounts, i prefer irc :] But it would be great if I could use a non-terminal based program to write to them.
[01:35] <igorel> walter,  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kXOg23pGeA  ;)
[01:35] <magusOTB> Is it just me or does network-manager suck at LITERALLY everything?
[01:35] <Zeranoe> ActionParsnip: Thats the whole reason I came here looking for a guide, not sure how to actually get a standard cpu usage out of that line
[01:35] <coz_> walter,   what make is the mobo ?
[01:36] <fisix> magusOTB what's wrong with network manager?
[01:36] <walter> coz_, its an asus k8u-x
[01:36] <phungvantu>  I don't know why sometime I was logged out without my active action in Natty?
[01:36] <phungvantu> pls help me
[01:36] <magusOTB> It's not accepting the routes tht my DHCP server should be giving it (and is giving all the other computers on my network) and when I try to mnually add them, they do not persist
[01:36] <lucas-arg> ubuntu 11.04 is running warmer than windows on this laptop... how can i solve this??
[01:36] <magusOTB> also it's ignoring the DNS servers too
[01:37] <coz_> walmis,   asus has a gui application for doing this automatically .. I doubt you will have issues,, however,, if it feels too risky and you are unsure of it,, stick with ubuntu10.04
[01:37] <grindel> magus.... I agree...it is brutal
[01:37] <magusOTB> and it can't stay on a network for more than 10 minutes without disconnecting and coming back
[01:37] <walter> igorel, lol for that :)
[01:37] <coz_> walter,  asus has a gui application for doing this automatically .. I doubt you will have issues,, however,, if it feels too risky and you are unsure of it,, stick with ubuntu10.04
[01:37] <magusOTB> wpa_supplicant is so much better.
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> lucas-arg: what make and model?
[01:37] <coz_> walmis,  sorry wrong nick
[01:37] <DrSlony> magusOTB: in my experience NetworkManager is quirky as hell.
[01:37] <astory> I just put 11.04 on my laptop, and it fails to suspend; it seems like it tries to but comes straight out of it.  What can I do to debug?  /var/log/syslog didn't have anything insightful in it
[01:37] <DrSlony> magusOTB: do you have wpa_supplicant run at boot? If so, how?
[01:37] <coz_> walter,   at least on that system
[01:37] <Vustom> C:
[01:37] <magusOTB> and I can't use route or anything liket hat to add them because network-manager keeps resetting them to empty
[01:37] <grindel> smbtree sees it but when I try to brows to it, I get Error: Failed to retrieve share list from server
[01:37] <Vustom> I fixed it by myself. C:
[01:37] <Vustom> C':
[01:38] <boxbeatsy> coz_: mmk thanks
[01:38] <Tac_Home> Hey guys, my fake 'middle click' isn't working since I upgraded to 11.04, any ideas?
[01:38] <lucas-arg> ActionParsnip: hp pavilion dv6-2189la i7 4gb ram nvidia 330m ubuntu amd64
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> grindel: press ALT+F2 and in the box type:  smb:\\host\share
[01:38] <magusOTB> like, for an operating system that's known for having good networking subsystems, it's a total piece of crap
[01:38] <walter> where is that gui?
[01:38] <MattEdward> escott, I just realized I had used virtualbox on my laptop before to run nix and it seemed really slow
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> lucas-arg: then why didn't you say that in the initial question rather than "this laptop" ?
[01:38] <walter> coz_, where is that gui?
[01:39] <chu> hi
[01:39] <lucas-arg> ActionParsnip: sorry? im not a perfect user nor a perfect geek
[01:39] <Scunizi> magusOTB: if you're use to manually doing network stuff.. uninstall network-manager.. it just gets in the way
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> lucas-arg: do you have the latest bios?
[01:39] <magusOTB> Scunizi: That's wht I do on my desktop, because it's configuration doesn't change
[01:39] <qin> magusOTB: But you know that you do not have to use it?
[01:39] <lucas-arg> ActionParsnip: yes... all is up to date
[01:39] <Returning> Hello I have a question anD I would love to get some opinions on it
[01:40] <chu> sure!
[01:40] <magusOTB> on my netbook, I need it to just work when I move between networks, which manual wpa_supplicant doesn't do too well
[01:40] <fisix> chu, hi!
[01:40] <chu> hiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[01:40] <Returning> I am looking to dual boot again with windows 7 and I have a very hard choice
[01:40] <Scunizi> magusOTB: prior to 10.10 I had to as well to set a static IP.. not needed in 10.10 it works there now.. and I don't do much with networking outside of that.
[01:40] <Returning> now it has beena while since I used ubuntu
[01:40] <fisix> welcome to ubuntu chu
[01:40] <Scunizi> magusOTB: try wicd..
[01:40] <qin> magusOTB: http://wicd.sourceforge.net/
[01:41] <magusOTB> Scunizi: Yeah, I used to use wicd on my desktop. that's what I'm int eh process of doing
[01:41] <johnjohn101> GOOD BYE UNITY.. OMG thanks for keeping classic
[01:41] <ghostnik11> actionparsnip: i got it to import folder, after kill of banshee, but I just had to import 1 folder at a time instead of a massive one
[01:41] <Scunizi> magusOTB: qin .. wicd is in the repos.
[01:41] <Returning> so I am trying to pick... I have little experence with 10.04, but should I go with 11.04
[01:41] <chu> merci
[01:41] <magusOTB> Scunizi: Although I kind of expected to be able to ask in IRC and get help, rather than commiseration. Perhaps we should file a bug about how terrible the default software is
[01:41] <qin> Scunizi: Always chance that someone will donate.
[01:42] <Returning> most of my experence was on 8.04
[01:42] <Scunizi> magusOTB: it's been done ad-nausium..
[01:42] <Returning> so what would you pick 11.04 or 10.04
[01:42] <chu> 9.3!
[01:42] <grindel> ActionP, sorry nothin
[01:43] <ActionParsnip> lucas-arg: in the bios is the fan set to 'fan always on'
[01:43] <lucas-arg> ActionParsnip: yes...
[01:43] <usr13> Returning: 10.04
[01:44] <Returning> you think so.. why usr13?
[01:44] <lucas-arg> ActionParsnip: and i dont see much cpu usage in htop
[01:44] <uabn93> When I upgraded to 11.04, my wifi stopped working. do i have to recompile my drivers?
[01:44] <magusOTB> Scunizi: Hrrm... =dusts off his books on unix network dev=
[01:44] <fisix> Returning 10.10
[01:44] <usr13> Returning: That's just my opinion.
[01:44] <Returning> okay that is fair...
[01:45] <Returning> I would need to track down 10.10.. I am lazy.. I just want to download from the main website.
[01:45] <Returning> lol
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> lucas-arg: ive see a post saying the manufacturing isn't great and they often leave gaps between cooler and cpu and gpu
[01:45] <usr13> Returning: See:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases#Version_timeline
[01:45] <RSGM> Pls help I found open ports on this computer 22 and 16113 could I get onto it through the second one without a username and password?
[01:45] <Returning> I was looking that usr13
[01:46] <ios23> i'm using virsh to clone qemu virtual machines with windows guests and i need to automate the setting of a different default password for each new cloned virtual machine. i know how to clone, but not manipulate the windows guest. any ideas on how one might go about doing this from a script?
[01:46] <usr13> Returning: Do you see the relationship between 8.04 and 10.04?
[01:46] <DrSlony> How do I search for all installable programs that contain the word foo in ubuntu?
[01:46] <Returning> yeah they are extended life time
[01:46] <grindel> I'm going to reboot...later all thanks for the help, ActionP, I'll get there
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> DrSlony: apt-cache search foo
[01:46] <Returning> that is why I used 8.04 before
[01:46] <usr13> Right
[01:47] <walter> how do i enable force_addr=0xr?
[01:47] <Returning> but I stopped using it... mostly because all of my studies were on windows and I got lazy to turn on my machine.
[01:47] <DrSlony> excellent, thank you ActionParsnip
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | walter
[01:47] <uabn93> anyone please?
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> DrSlony: you can grep the output to make it more useful
[01:48] <DrSlony> yup
[01:48] <Returning> I think I will go with 10.04 and wait for 12.04 later on.. anyway thanks for the help.
[01:48] <astory> RSGM: it depends on what's running on that port.  It's not a standard port, so there's no way to know without being on your computer.
[01:48] <usr13> uabn93: What is your problem?
[01:48] <RSGM> Ok Ty
[01:48] <brianl> Whats the code to apt-get install java?
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> brianl: which release?
[01:48] <brianl> newest I guess
[01:48] <usr13> brianl: apt-cache search java
[01:49] <coz_> brianl,   are the partner repositories enabled also
[01:49] <PalinBachman2012> ain't it sun-java
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> brianl: http://www.multimediaboom.com/how-to-install-java-in-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal-ppa/
[01:49] <brianl> oh maybe that is why, the partnet repo's aren't enabled
[01:49] <usr13> brianl: What Ubuntu version are you?
[01:49] <brianl> natty
[01:49] <coz_> brianl,    sudo apt-get install sun -java6-plugin
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> brianl: that ppa has a later version :)
[01:49] <passthru> i'm having problems when playing videos
[01:49] <coz_> brianl,  sorry  I put a space in there     sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[01:50] <passthru> when I try to play any type of video, my Xorg session just crashes
[01:50] <uabn93> usr13: I upgraded to 11.04 on my laptop and the wifi drivers i compiled stopped working. were they deleted after upgrade?
[01:50] <brianl> Okay, thank you
[01:50] <coz_> passthru,  did you install the ubuntu-restricted-extras
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> uabn93: you need to compile them for the new kernel
[01:50] <passthru> coz_,  no.
[01:50] <usr13> brianl: ... and you want what?  Java plugin?
[01:50] <coz_> passthru,   sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[01:51] <passthru> coz_,  i'm using the same graphic adapter's driver than Ubuntu 10.10
[01:51] <passthru> openchrome
[01:51] <brianl> usr13, yeah, i need it for android sdk also
[01:51] <coz_> passthru,  mm well the restricted extras are going to install a few packages   and you might want to do this via synaptic package manager anyway
[01:51] <usr13> brianl: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[01:51] <brianl> usr13, thanks
[01:52] <usr13> brianl: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-jdk
[01:52] <passthru> coz_,  i see only some library which won't solve the problem
[01:52] <passthru> isn't a codec error
[01:52] <coz_> passthru,   I see  which type of videos  are crashing it ?
[01:52] <passthru> i can't watch videos
[01:52] <coz_> passthru,  w hich player are you using also?
[01:52] <passthru> i tried 3 different players
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> passthru: what app are you watching it with?
[01:53] <coz_> passthru,   ok which vide card again....    lspci | grep -i vga
[01:53] <passthru> i tried with Totem, VLC
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> !codecs | passthru
[01:53] <passthru> and others which i don't remember right now
[01:53] <iSkorup> Wasap
[01:53] <passthru> ActionParsnip, isn't a codec related problem
[01:53] <passthru> :)
[01:53] <passthru> at least I know, codecs problem won't abort my X session
[01:53] <coz_> passthru,   what do you believe it is?
[01:54] <coz_> passthru,  likely the video driver,,, which card is it
[01:54] <astory> how much of a performance hit would I see for encrypting my home folder?
[01:54] <usr13> brianl: Two packages, but they can be installed both at the same time.  But if it   fails, you may need another repository.
[01:54] <passthru> coz_, well, i checked in logs that DRI crashes when I try to watch then
[01:54] <passthru> *tem
[01:54] <passthru> *them
[01:54] <phpguy306> hey guys
[01:54] <passthru> there is any way to disable DRI ?
[01:54] <uabn93> ActionParsnip: thank you. Another thing....why didn't it automatically work in ubuntu if the company that makes the drivers (ralink) make linux drivers for the card?
[01:54] <brianl> usr13, it worked
[01:54] <futureproof> hey guys, I'm having aproblem with booting from grub. It worked the first time but after I reboot, it gets stuck on the splash screen loading. Is there any way to get some diagnostic info from a recovery console ?
[01:54] <coz_> passthru,  which make of card,, its version number and which driver are you using for it?
[01:55] <usr13> brianl: Ok, yer good to go.
[01:55] <phpguy306> should my folders be root/root or www-data/root, or other? in apache.
[01:55] <passthru> i'm using openchrome driver
[01:55] <brianl> usr13, yep, thanks
[01:55] <coz_> passthru,   oh!! SIS
[01:55] <passthru> which is detected by Ubuntu
[01:55] <passthru> no
[01:55] <passthru> VIA
[01:55] <coz_> passthru,   no?
[01:55] <passthru> openchrome = VIA
[01:55] <coz_> passthru,  ok  not sure then,, it sounds like a video driver issue is x is crashing
[01:56] <Vanillux> Hi, i wanted to announce the creation of a new Linux distribution which will be a standalone Rolling-release APT Gnome3 distribution, see more on vanillux.org We are in dire need of volonteers
[01:56] <passthru> yeah
[01:56] <PalinBachman2012> is this a legacy machine
[01:56] <passthru> DRI simply crashs
[01:56] <singlegirlarity> how do I access the NAS behind my CORE from a windows box outside my CORE (but still on my LAN)?
[01:56] <coz_> passthru,  well that's the issue,,,  the driver itself may not be capable of such a load
[01:56] <Minnen> Google is taking over the whole network
[01:56] <singlegirlarity> ah sorry...the word CORE means my server
[01:56] <Minnen> wtf
[01:56] <Coty91>  /join OMG!Ubuntu!
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> Vanillux: please don't spam the channel
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> Coty91: channels start with a hash
[01:56] <singlegirlarity> my server running ubuntu
[01:56] <Coty91> yea i forgot
[01:56] <walter> coz_, what will i do to do this force_addr=0xr
[01:57] <PalinBachman2012> you can have symbols in channel name?
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> Vanillux: plus a  vanilluxe is a pokemon
[01:57] <passthru> coz_, well, before I update it to 11.04 I was able to watch many full hd movies
[01:57] <paspro> Question: when I mount external drives with CIFS using Ethernet connection (11.04) I get a low transfer speed of about 4MB/sec while on Windows I get 13MB/sec. When I use NFS I get the same speed as with Windows. Any suggestions?
[01:57] <uabn93> ActionParsnip: is there something i can do to help get that driver supported in ubuntu without having to compile them?
[01:57] <coz_> walter,  this one is puzzling me guy,,, if you cannot install any of the versions other than 10.04   then I am not sure of any solution,, however,,you can try to ask in ##linux channel ...someone there may have a solution
[01:57] <MattEdward> are virtualizations for linux--vmware, virtualbox, etc--hard to differentiate from running linux itself, or are things significantly slower/crappier, what about visually, is the resolution the same
[01:57] <coz_> walter, otherwise stick with 10.04 on that machine
[01:58] <walter> coz_, i see... thanks anyways :)
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> uabn93: thats all I can advise, if you add a DKMS part to the drivers it should get rebuilt between kernel updates
[01:58] <passthru> anyone knows a way to completely disable DRI ?
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> MattEdward: the hardware is virtualized, thats all so it will run as fast as the resources you assign
[01:59] <coz_> I didnt mean for him to quit :(
[01:59] <PalinBachman2012> passthru: if you are experiencing total crashes like that after a new release, i imagine its a bug, and someone else has it too, you might want to check the bug list on ubuntu or launchpad or whatever it is
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> MattEdward: the res will be as big as the driver will permit, if you need bigger you can use xorg.conf and set a larger screen
[01:59] <aj00200> I am moving my home directory to a new partition following the instructions here: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome - but my home directory is encrypted. Is there anything I need to do differently?
[02:00] <passthru> PalinBachman2012, yeah and to have a partial solution I need to disable DRI (since i dont need it bcoz i don't use 3D effects)
[02:00] <MattEdward> ActionParsnip, so it's possible to run ubuntu virtually without it seeming virtual?
[02:00] <MattEdward> tp the eye or otherwise
[02:00] <MattEdward> to*
[02:01] <PalinBachman2012> passthru: man, i would tell you to comment it out in xorg.conf, but I don't even know where that is anymore!
[02:01] <PalinBachman2012> they be moving stuff around
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> MattEdward: sure, the hardware will all be virtualized but it will run well. I suggest you use LXDE or some other light DE to make the OS more responsive
[02:01] <PalinBachman2012> im pretty sure thats a modulue in xorg tho, iirc
[02:01] <passthru> PalinBachman2012, /usr/share/X11 ;)
[02:01] <MattEdward> dunno what that is, but will G it
[02:02] <passthru> PalinBachman2012, but there is only partial files, this is now kinda a config.d directory
[02:02] <uabn93> !xorg
[02:02] <alphur> !nvidia
[02:02] <paspro> !cifs
[02:03] <alphur> hey guys, whenever a window is too big, all i get is a white box except for the window manager. using nvidia latest and natty
[02:04] <paspro> !nfs
[02:04] <MattEdward> ActionParsnip, ty - would you recommend virtualbox, vmware - either over the other?
[02:04] <usr13> passthru: Looks like it's  Option "NoAccel" "True"  according to  http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?30679-How-do-I-disable-DRI
[02:04] <hypetech> MattEdward: virtualbox
[02:04] <phpguy306> should my folders be root/root or www-data/root, or other? in apache.
[02:04] <MattEdward> seems to be the consensus
[02:04] <uabn93> !compiz |uabn93
[02:04] <singlegirlarity> how do I access a NAS brick behind my linux server from a windows box on my external lan? is this something samba is appropriate for?
[02:04] <MattEdward> ty
[02:04] <passthru> usr13, I've tried this and a lot of other ways to disable it
[02:05] <usr13> passthru: The file is   /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:05] <passthru> usr13,  but w/o success
[02:05] <passthru> usr13,  can you look for it on Ubuntu 11.04 ? I cant :)
[02:05] <passthru> there is no more /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> MattEdward: both are fine, virtualbox is opensource (unless you need usb access in the vbox, then you want the closed one)
[02:05] <passthru> just only partial files on /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/
[02:06] <PalinBachman2012> its not down there
[02:06] <usr13> passthru: #       Load    "dri"    ???
[02:06] <PalinBachman2012> its either in /etc/ or in your configs files in you ~
[02:07] <eiriksvin> can someone tell me how to mount my dvd in my drive so it don't pick up a Mac OS option?
[02:07] <passthru> usr13, there is no mention of DRI anymore, so where I must comment it ?
[02:07] <usr13> passthru: No, I don't have /etc/X11/xorg.conf  file.
[02:07] <astory> I just put 11.04 on my laptop, and it fails to suspend; it seems like it tries to but comes straight out of it.  What can I do to debug?  /var/log/syslog didn't have anything insightful in it
[02:07] <usr13> passthru: grep dri /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:08] <aj00200> I am moving my home directory to a new partition following the instructions here: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome - but my home directory is encrypted. Is there anything I need to do differently?
[02:08] <diminished> hello
[02:08] <diminished> i need help adding a custom grub entry for win7
[02:08] <diminished> i installed ubuntu, then win7 and now grub is all borked
[02:08] <diminished> i finally manually booted into my ubuntu partition
[02:08] <diminished> and i dont want to boot from CD again
[02:08] <usr13> !grub2 | diminished
[02:08] <diminished> how can i add a custom entry for win7? How can i fix grub?
[02:09] <diminished> usr13, im there
[02:09] <ActionParsnip> diminished: http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-restore-grub-2-after-reinstalling-windows-xpvistawin7
[02:09] <ActionParsnip> diminished: use the live cd
[02:09] <usr13> diminished: Did you find it?
[02:09] <eiriksvin> can someone tell me how to mount my dvd in my drive so it don't pick up a Mac OS option?
[02:09] <usr13> diminished: If so, just comment it out.
[02:09] <diminished> ls: cannot access /media/System Reserved/boot
[02:09] <diminished> Boot: No such file or directory
[02:09] <diminished> done
[02:10] <PalinBachman2012> oh it is in /usr/share/whatever, if you create one
[02:10] <hemangpatel> hey there
[02:10] <diminished> i havent
[02:10] <diminished> im on fresh installs
[02:10] <hemangpatel> i need help
[02:10] <diminished> what do i need to do to /usr/share???
[02:10] <hemangpatel> & suggestion..
[02:10] <usr13> diminished: Sorry, that was for someone else.
[02:11] <hemangpatel> ???
[02:11] <Wiggley> !oh | hemangpatel
[02:11] <hemangpatel> yes
[02:11] <Wiggley> Sup
[02:11] <hemangpatel> i have some questions ?
[02:11] <hemangpatel> fine man
[02:11] <uabn93> !dkms | uabn93
[02:11] <brianl> This might be a stupid question, but i am on a dual core processor running at 2gz, but when i look at /proc/cpuinfo, it says i am only running at 800mhz?
[02:11] <upd> look like unity does not allow me to activate application if i'm on other desktop is that a bus ?
[02:12] <usr13> diminished: You can boot into ubuntu and fix it.
[02:12] <Wiggley> What is !dims
[02:12] <hemangpatel> new ubuntu is better or not ?
[02:12] <astory> brianl: ubuntu does dynamic underclocking, I think that you can see that in /proc/cpuinfo if you're not at full load
[02:12] <Wiggley> !dkms*
[02:12] <hemangpatel> means ?
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> hemangpatel: thats speculative
[02:12] <mahir256> hemangpatel: yes, newer ubuntu is better
[02:12] <diminished> usr13: im in ubuntu
[02:12] <diminished> i finally manually booted into my ubuntu partition from the grub prompt
[02:12] <hemangpatel> hey i have another question ...
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> hemangpatel: its an opinion so is not concrete
[02:12] <Tac_Home> any way to get my left/right mouse clicks to simulate a middle mouseclick again?  when I upgraded to 11.04, that stopped working...
[02:12] <diminished> i need to get my grub menu back and os-prober isnt working
[02:12] <hemangpatel> every time when i install ubuntu
[02:12] <AbTuX> hemangpatel, Yes its great but depends on your need also.
[02:13] <brianl> astory, so it stays at 800mhz and goes up if i need it?
[02:13] <hemangpatel> I have download third party software
[02:13] <Wiggley> !dkms | uabn93
[02:13] <eiriksvin> can someone tell me how to mount my dvd in my drive so it don't pick up a Mac OS option?
[02:13] <hemangpatel> when i remove ubuntu & install second time
[02:13] <hemangpatel> i have to download second time
[02:13] <eiriksvin> please:)
[02:14] <hemangpatel> how can i save that software for use in second time
[02:14] <hemangpatel> offline instal
[02:14] <uabn93> Wiggley: got it. thnx
[02:14] <Wiggley> Yup
[02:14] <mahir256> hemangpatel: don't remove ubuntu. just go to a shell and apt-get update all
[02:14] <hemangpatel> u understand ?
[02:14] <eiriksvin> I'm trying to mount my WOW DVD but i can't remount it
[02:15] <hemangpatel> but how i save that update ?
[02:15] <eiriksvin> cause everytime i do it shows the Mac OS
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> !aptoncd | hemangpatel
[02:15] <hemangpatel> how to use it ?
[02:16] <mahir256> hemangpatel: your os is saved the way i said. there is no need to reinstall
[02:16] <aj00200> I am moving my home directory to a new partition following the instructions here: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome - but my home directory is encrypted. Is there anything I need to do differently?
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> hemangpatel: install the app, you will see
[02:17] <l1nuxman> why does sendmail have trouble restarting when my hostname is ubuntu and /etc/hosts has ubuntu <IP_ADDRESS> ???
[02:17] <l1nuxman> it works but takes forever to resolv
[02:17] <nikotiini> ewwh i really hate the new unity :S
[02:17] <Wiggley> So how's everyone day
[02:17] <mahir256> nikotiini: yeah, i prefer the original gnome. gnome shell and unity is (--------), no offence to the gnome project or canonical
[02:18] <mahir256> Wiggley: i'm fine
[02:18] <Wiggley> Nice
[02:18] <InfectedSoul> if you guys say its plug and play learn ur freaking shit... the asus n-13 isnt plug and play
[02:18] <eiriksvin> can someone tell me how to mount my dvd in my drive so it don't pick up a Mac OS option?
[02:18] <InfectedSoul> Nothing works
[02:18] <html_inprogress> hi yall
[02:18] <eiriksvin> I'm trying to mount my WOW DVD but i can't remount it
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> Wiggley: i'll be better in 5 hours
[02:18] <Wiggley> Why
[02:18] <Wiggley> ActionParsnip:
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> InfectedSoul: keep it family friendly please
[02:18] <nikotiini> is there new gnome coming anytime soon?
[02:18] <html_inprogress> how can i copy a cd/ dvd to make an iso
[02:19] <johnjohn101> ok, how to i change the scrollbars back to what they should look like
[02:19] <InfectedSoul> anyone here that can help me find a site that will actually tell me how to get the asus n-13 working?
[02:19] <Wiggley> I run windows :/
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> InfectedSoul: its a wireless adapter. Asus don't make wireless chips. We need to know the chip
[02:20] <InfectedSoul> well the box is now offline nor can i access it right now
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> InfectedSoul: can you give the output of:  sudo lshw -C network; lsb_release -a; rfkill list
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> InfectedSoul: when you can
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> InfectedSoul: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1419504
[02:21] <walterPH> no one  wants to answer me at ##linux:(
[02:22] <mahir256> walterPH: awww...
[02:23] <walterPH> mahir256, too bad.. no one there pay attention to my problem
[02:23] <mahir256> what is your problem, walterPH
[02:24] <Wiggley> Nihorric
[02:25] <walterPH> mahir256, the installation.. its stuck and asks me to update my bios or use force_addr=0xr
[02:25] <InfectedSoul> but why say its plug and play when its not?
[02:25] <mahir256> what machine are you installing to?
[02:26] <Wiggley> Ubuntu made me cry when it fried my laptop
[02:26] <hoho`> ayyo
[02:26] <ultrixx> Wiggley: how can ubuntu fry your laptop?
[02:26] <aj00200> I am moving my home directory to a new partition following the instructions here: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome - but my home directory is encrypted.  In maverick C-T used to do the trick but this doesn't seem to work anymore...
[02:27] <hoho`> !datarecovery
[02:27] <hoho`> !recovery
[02:27] <mahir256> nikotiini: the 11 represents the year (2011), the 10 represents the month (October), therefore it will be released in october 2011
[02:28] <Lewoco> In fact, it looks as if my control button doesn't work at all wtf?
[02:28] <nikotiini> mahir256: awwwwwww i really want new gnome
[02:29] <ActionParsnip> nikotiini: you can get it, it's just not supported here
[02:29] <Wiggley> :/
[02:29] <mahir256> then get it from synaptic, or if you prefer terminals, use apt-get gnome
[02:29] <ActionParsnip> !gnome3 | nikotiini
[02:29] <johnjohn101> ok got rid of funky scrollbars in pidgin
[02:30] <moses> KDE or ubuntu?
[02:30] <nikotiini> nah i'll just wait for the official release
[02:30] <johnjohn101> got rid of unity
[02:30] <moses> i cant decide
[02:30] <moses> dammit
[02:30] <hoho`> ActionParsnip
[02:30] <hoho`> can u put the data recovery thing
[02:30] <Minnen> moses
[02:30] <hoho`> pls
[02:30] <erarva> Hi... I was running 10.10 without any issue. I got a new monitor and tried to extend my desktop onto it... it sort of did this automatically but the extended screen had wierd pixelation and it seemed like one area of the screen wasn't being updated by the framebuffer (dunno how else to describe it). I have a Latitude XT. I googled the problem, and added a 'gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/radeon-kms.conf' file
[02:30] <Minnen> is KDE or GTK
[02:30] <Minnen> not ubuntu
[02:30] <html_inprogress> how do i make iso?
[02:31] <moses> what?
[02:31] <moses> kubuntu or ubuntu
[02:31] <moses> KDE vs gnome
[02:31] <mahir256> 'moses' and Minnen: kde and gnome are x desktop environments. they cannot work as standalone oses
[02:31] <Minnen> lol i missunderstood
[02:31] <erarva> now I can't boot into X. I tried removing the file, but it still won't boot into X. Kicks me out with the same error: drivers/usb/input/hid-cor.c: usb_submit_urb(ctrl) failed
[02:31] <moses> i know debian for the win
[02:31] <moses> im talking about my WM
[02:31] <erarva> Does anyone have any advice?
[02:31] <mahir256> 'moses' and Minnen: i prefer the KDE, therefore i prefer kubuntu
[02:32] <moses> erarva, google
[02:32] <syrinx_> kde and gnome aren't WMs
[02:32] <moses> mahir256, why do you prefer it?
[02:32] <Minnen> i like gnome
[02:32] <erarva> moses: didn't help. Also, google advice broke sys in first place.
[02:32]  * Wiggley burps
[02:32] <moses> i meant my X
[02:32] <Minnen> simplicity first
[02:33] <Wiggley> !oh | Wiggley
[02:33] <vorlov> hello
[02:33] <vorlov> is there an upstart specialist here?
[02:33] <moses> wow the gnome iso is huge
[02:33] <zaery> anyone know of a good screen recorder that does 1080p and allows for shortcuts to pause/record the video?
[02:33] <Wiggley> Well
[02:33] <moses> i cant burn this to a disk can i?
[02:33] <ActionParsnip> zaery: recordmydesktop
[02:34] <ActionParsnip> moses: if its bigger than 700Mb then no
[02:34] <moses> ActionParsnip, gnome 3 is like 902mb
[02:34] <Minnen> Ubuntu Gnome ISO is 685Mb
[02:34] <moses> where?
[02:35] <Wiggley> !dkms | Minnen
[02:35] <moses> the DL says 902
[02:35] <Andre_Gondim> Hi, I have some video issue when I plug a hdmi cable
[02:35] <leigh> help, i lost my start menu
[02:35] <zabomber> so i have installed ubuntu 11 on virutal box in my mac. installed the latest virtual box additions and have it in nice full screen mode. however, the top menu bar of all application i open and full screen has a large black line through it?
[02:35] <zabomber> anyone else have this problem?
[02:35] <Wiggley> !dkms | leigh
[02:35] <ActionParsnip> moses: Then you will need a DVD or a USB stick / SD card (assuming your BIOS can boot USB etc)
[02:35] <zabomber> the black line fades when i move my mouse over it
[02:35] <moses> nvm
[02:36] <moses> this is the live CD
[02:36] <leigh> i cant access my web browsers
[02:36] <leigh> all of my menu items are missing..
[02:36] <Minnen> Wiggley: I dont understand
[02:36] <Wiggley> !dkms | Leigh
[02:37] <moses> can someone link me to the GNOME 3 iso official download site?
[02:37] <leigh> how do i restore to my default settings in terminal?
[02:37] <Wiggley> !dkms | moses
[02:38] <moses> nvm i meant ubuntu
[02:38] <spl0it> Weird problem (I think) I clicked the X on TrueCrypt (like I normally do) but for the first time in Ubuntu 11.04 and it's still running but I can't seem to get focus - suggestions? (When I click on TrueCrypt again it just says it already running!)
[02:38] <DaveD0101> anyone have any idea why drag-and-dropping an application to the unity bar doesn' work?
[02:38] <upd> can each desktop has it's own background wallpaper ?
[02:38] <IdleOne> moses: www.ubuntu.com to download ubuntu
[02:38] <upd> desktop== workspace..
[02:38] <ActionParsnip> moses: http://www.gnome.org/getting-gnome/
[02:38] <Wiggley> upd: Yea
[02:38] <upd> how
[02:38] <moses> i got it
[02:38] <maheanuu> OK, I have sound now, but it is very low in volume.  I have all the GUI Volume controls set to max and the sound is just barely audible
[02:38] <moses> im retarded ;)
[02:39] <upd> Wiggley, how
[02:39] <Wiggley> upd: I have no freaking idea
[02:39] <maheanuu> I am running Ubuntu10.10 on a Toshiba Laptop
[02:39] <airtonix> upd: apparently you use CompizFusion plugin to do this
[02:39] <upd> hm okey
[02:39] <airtonix> upd: otherwise it's in the 'too hard basket'
[02:40] <upd> too hard basket ?
[02:40] <Wiggley> TWSS
[02:41] <DaveD0101> nobody had this problem adding an item to the unity bar thing?
[02:41] <spl0it> Maybe if I simplify the question it will be easier: How do I bring focus to an application currently running in the background?
[02:42] <leigh> Help. I installed the OS X- like doc and have lost all of my default menus. How do I get them back?
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> spl0it: is it a terminal app or a graphical app like gedit?
[02:42] <qin> spl0it: fg (in shell you send it to bg)
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> !panels | leigh
[02:42] <vorlov> ;;bc,mtgox
[02:42] <spl0it> ActionParsnip: it's TrueCrypt (graphical) and I need to bring it back to the front
[02:43] <DaveD0101> spl0it, I use win-tab for window switching with graphical apps... not sure if that helps
[02:43] <maheanuu> I cannot seem to find any way to raise the volume for this notebook, It was decent under Pulse but Skype didn't like it as my transmissions were badly broken up when I called a pots line
[02:43] <DaveD0101> spl0it, alt-tab is the less fancy version of that win-tab
[02:43] <maheanuu> Now I am in the process of trying to dig myself out of this crater I have managed to create
[02:44] <spl0it> DaveD0101: yes, unfortunately it's not listed there...before the new version of ubuntu a small logo would show up near the block...but now - nothing
[02:44] <olvap_> what is a permition 665 on a file?
[02:44] <DaveD0101> spl0it, oh in the notificaion area?  Sure the process is running?
[02:45] <spl0it> Dave123: ps aux | grep truecrypt shows it running, and if I click on the icon it says 'TrueCrypt is already running'
[02:45] <spl0it> DaveD0101: ps aux | grep truecrypt shows it running, and if I click on the icon it says 'TrueCrypt is already running'
[02:45] <enovativ> LAcan, what up dude
[02:45] <maheanuu> exit
[02:45] <qin> olvap_: cd && touch testfilw && chmod 665 thstfile && ls -l testfile && sleep 5 && rm testfile
[02:45] <enovativ> sorry for the delay
[02:46] <qin> olvap_: cd && touch testfile && chmod 665 thstfile && ls -l testfile && sleep 5 && rm testfile (sorry for typo)
[02:46] <Sample> hello all.  so as a windows user i've decided to try out ubuntu 11.04 because i didnt like win7 compared to vista (new startbar is horrid, its like a head on collision between a dock and a startbar to being a mediocre version of both)
[02:46] <leigh__> i tried your command and it did not work, did i enter it wrong?
[02:46] <leigh__>  « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »
[02:46] <olvap_> qin, i dont undertand, i have to change the perimtion of a file to 665, but i like to know what that means
[02:47] <qin> omg, second typo
[02:47] <qin> olvap_: -rw-rw-r-x
[02:47] <Sample> aaand.. it's pretty nice so far but it's a little odd looking. im kind of getting a headache and i think it's the font.  additionally the windows make every app look like they were made in Delphi. is there a way i can get a nicer window "decorators" with some transparency and the windows font (or similar) as well?
[02:47] <olvap_> qin thanks
[02:48] <Sample> i dont understand the difference between if i need GTK2, Metacity, Compiz, etc when i look at gnomelook
[02:48]  * upd is away: I'm busy
[02:48]  * upd is back (gone 00:00:04)
[02:49] <erarva> Is there anyway to use a LiveCD to copy another ubuntu user files to another location (ie home dir). I can copy some content, but there are a lot of permission errors.
[02:50] <DaveD0101> spl0it, You got me... not sure how you'd get it back if it's not in the systray, won't allow you to relaunch the GUI and killing and restarting the process isn't an option...
[02:50] <DaveD0101> spl0it, Though I'd guess there's a way.  I just don't know it.
[02:51] <spl0it> DaveD0101: yeah I figure someone knows how to access a running application that's in the background (not a shell APP!)
[02:51] <leigh__> I want to get back to default gnome settings via terminal - how?
[02:52] <qin> olvap_: Oh, to change permission you need to use chmod, i.e. chmod 665 somefile
[02:53] <rhizmoe> 665 is a very odd permission
[02:54] <rhizmoe> rw-rw-r-x
[02:54] <thom__> hello. I've upgraded to Natty and have constant freezes and kernel panic which I found is due to broadcom wirless driver. I'm uncertain what to do next
[02:54] <Wiggley> ThomasUK:
[02:55] <qin> olvap_: this give read/write to owner (first 6) same to group (second 6) and read and execute for anyone (5), ls -l shows owner:group of file.
[02:55] <spl0it> DaveD0101: found a 'workaround' truecrypt -d = unmounted all current mounts
[02:55] <DaveD0101> spl0it, then just killing and relaunching?
[02:55] <Exen> Hello.
[02:55] <DaveD0101> spl0it, http://superuser.com/questions/183680/gnome-ubuntu-how-to-bring-a-program-window-to-the-front-using-a-command-line-f
[02:56] <olvap_> qin thanks again :)
 how do i use the command you gave me, it came back bad command
[02:56] <pepsi> is there a way to have the old system menus in unity? i kinda like unity, but having both interfaces available would be nice sometimes
[02:56] <darkenvy> how can I check my ubuntu version via terminal?
[02:57] <histo> pepsi: you can select ubuntu classic from the login screen but then you won't have unity.
[02:57] <histo> darkenvy: cat /etc/issue
[02:57] <cg> darkenvy: cat /etc/lsb-release
[02:57] <DaveD0101> spl0it, wmctrl -a <name>
[02:57] <DaveD0101> spl0it, I had to install wmctrl first though.
[02:57] <darkenvy> nono
[02:58] <darkenvy> I need to see if its x86 or x64
[02:58] <histo> darkenvy: uname -a
[02:58] <darkenvy> thats the one ^
[02:59] <cg> darkenvy: uname -m
[02:59] <darkenvy> I got it guys
[02:59] <darkenvy> thanks
[02:59] <cg> cool
[02:59] <dork> darkenvy: uname -a
[02:59] <escott> Sample, check your subpixel rendering in the appearance application (its in the advanced section)
[02:59] <ThomasB2K> Dicks
[02:59] <darkenvy> guys
[02:59] <darkenvy> why are you repeating the command? ><
[02:59] <darkenvy> I got it, thanks
[03:00] <Guest19772> is there a faster mirror then  http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ its slow as heck
[03:00] <spl0it> DaveD0101: thanks - I'm not sure why this is necessary in the first place... wonder why the system tray doesn't work properly
[03:00] <KM0201> feard: faster mirror for what?
[03:00] <feard> apt-get install anything
[03:00] <leigh__> guys, my start menu and panel items have disappeard. i installed the OS X Doc, how do I get back to my original settings?
[03:00] <escott> feard, try mirrorselect
[03:01] <darkenvy> sup escott
[03:01] <darkenvy> day 3 on my computer issues ><
[03:01] <KM0201> feard: you can use synaptic t "select fastest server"... and it will point you at the fastest server for you.
[03:01] <escott> feard, sorry actually thats a gentoo thing... i thought ubuntu had something similar though
[03:01] <KM0201> escott: it does
[03:02] <spl0it> DaveD0101: thanks again for the help - have a good one - must sleep now
[03:02] <escott> darkenvy, sorry i dont remember what your problem was
[03:02] <DaveD0101> spl0it, Np.
[03:03] <KM0201> escott: open synaptic... go to settings repositories, where it says "Download From" choose other, then click "Select best server"... it'll then ping all the servers, and see which one is best for you... after its done, select the server it recommends, click close, and click reload
[03:03] <KM0201> feard: see above also
[03:03] <darkenvy> lol
[03:04] <darkenvy> ive reinstalled ubuntu litterally 6 time sin the last 24 hours
[03:04] <darkenvy> issue after issue after issue
[03:04] <ward1234> darkenvey, man still the same issue?
[03:04] <KM0201> darkenvy: what?.. whats wrong?
[03:04] <darkenvy> well 10.10 failed to install a couple times
[03:04] <darkenvy> and keeping /home crashed the new install
[03:04] <mrj> my bash completion broke when I upgraded to Natty
[03:04] <darkenvy> and I accidently installed x86 thanks to unetbootin
[03:05] <leigh__> can anyone help me? im begging
[03:05] <escott> darkenvy, crashed the install or crashed the gui? a bunch of ~/.* directories could break the gui even if the install is good
[03:05] <darkenvy> and NOW, my gnome top bar and bottom bar fails to theme on a fresh install with a new formatted partition
[03:05] <darkenvy> with a new /home
[03:06] <ward1234> have u tried going back to hardy heron?
[03:06] <ward1234> darkenvy i mean
[03:06] <escott> darkenvy, i've had the not catching the theme issue before, and it seemed to be a race condition with the gnome loading prior to gconf settings being ready. usually fixed with a logout/login to get the dconf cache hot
[03:06] <darkenvy> well escott, it was originally freezing the keyboard too. no TTY. but im way past that nw
[03:06] <windparadise> hello, pls how do we find out values of an environment variable?
[03:06] <KM0201> leigh_: whats wrong?
[03:07] <guest> So
[03:07] <darkenvy> hmmm im rebooting to install the nvidia drivers anyways
[03:07] <escott> leigh_, not too familiar with OS X Dock... can you change your session at login to a normal session?
[03:07] <cg> windparadise: env
[03:07] <leigh__> installed the OS X doc and now all of my panles and menus are gone, want to restore to default
[03:08] <kieppie> hi guys. I'm having some difficulty with NM's PPTP VPN. I can connect over a wired connection, but not wireless, even though it's the same network
[03:08] <KM0201> leigh: good luck w/ that... that OSx dock has bricked more than one system.... I've never been able to successfully remove it.. the one time i tried it, i ended up reinstalling to get rid o fit
[03:08] <Pascalcmoi> Wazza!
[03:08] <windparadise> cg: so will env JAVA_HOME be correct?
[03:08] <cg> echo $JAVA_HOME
[03:08] <windparadise> ok
[03:08] <leigh__> damn
[03:10] <Steev43230> What is the proper program to install to get Java functionality in Firefox? apt-cache search java | grep plugin brings up a LOT of stuff
[03:10] <Pascalcmoi> Yo man Im baby
[03:10] <escott> leigh_, i have no idea what osx dock does, but usually for something like this you want to: (a) apt-get remove the offending application (b) try to start a normal session (c) failing that rm -rf various folders in $HOME that might contain config information
[03:10] <Pascalcmoi> and you who you are dude
[03:11] <guest> Omg why do I have room restriction on everyroom
[03:11] <darkenvy> nvidia drivers seemed to boot up with everything correctly
[03:11] <darkenvy> I think my journey of hell may be at an end
[03:11] <darkenvy> my journey all started because I thought 11.04 would work for me.... ><
[03:12] <ubuntu> Hey, is it possible to have both Gnome 3 and Unity installed on 11.04? I heard somewhere Gnome 3 broke Unity
[03:12] <vorlov> guys (girls) - when are the init.d scripts run in reference to upstart-events?
[03:12] <escott> ubuntu, the two are incompatible at least until 11.10
[03:12] <qin> !unity
[03:12] <PeterFA> I installed 11.04 64 and now grub always says there is an error: "no such partition." and goes to the rescue prompt.
[03:13] <vorlov> for instance, after what point (upstart-events) would apache2 (which is an init.d script) be run ?
[03:13] <qin> !gnome3
[03:13] <guest> W
[03:14] <MonkeyDust> folx, a superblock error when i try to mount an usb external hdd - i tried tune2fs - it worked before - hints & tips?
[03:14] <darkenvy> escott, nooooooo the theme issue again
[03:14] <darkenvy> escott, what did you do to fix this?
[03:14] <ubuntu> escott: Is it confirmed that compatibility will be fixed by 11.10?
[03:14] <escott> darkenvy, i think its a race with dconf not being hot. login/logout was my approach
[03:14] <darkenvy> also guys, is it normal for the pinwheel only to spin while the mouse is moving?
[03:14] <pythonirc101> how do i get sqlite3 for ubuntu? I can compile it from source, any other ideas?
[03:15] <escott> ubuntu, i read a blog saying they were already starting the process of porting unity to gtk3 which would be needed to support both on the same system
[03:15] <gdamit> Hey, keyserver.ubuntu.com has timed out for me for well over 2 months now everytime I try to add a key, this is getting REALLY frustrating, please someone tell me there is some solution, if not I really am forced back to windows
[03:15] <gdamit> gpg: requesting key 881574DE from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com gpg: keyserver timed out gpg: keyserver receive failed: keyserver error
[03:15] <Icornpad2> anyone have any problems since the last update?  my puter is freakin out - the screen is flashing on and off and unresponsive.
[03:15] <gdamit> for 2 months, ive been getting this
[03:15] <gdamit> on ubuntu 10.10 btw
[03:15] <ubuntu> escott, thanks, I can wait for a while
[03:16] <escott> pythonirc101, why not just install it libsqlite3-0
[03:16] <darkenvy> is it possible for an install to be just abd?
[03:16] <darkenvy> everything is slow
[03:16] <darkenvy> but it took me 3 times today to get 64 bit installed this time... all the way. so I dare not try again
[03:17] <Mini_> why I get this message "(EE) Mouse0: failed to initialize for relative axes." when I startx on ubuntu,but everything is OK
[03:17] <pythonirc101> escott: I need sqlite 3.xx so that i can open up databases that were created...
[03:17] <escott> Mini_, if the mouse works I wouldn't worry about it
[03:18] <darkenvy> escott, on shutdown "will now halt" and never shuts down on its own
[03:18] <RavenHursT> Anyone ever had it where SCP's progress bar doesn't progress?  The files copy over the wire just fine.. but the progress just says 0% until it finishes.. any thoughts?
[03:18] <MonkeyDust> folx, a superblock error when i try to mount an usb external hdd - i tried tune2fs - it worked before - hints & tips?
[03:19] <pythonirc101> got it
[03:19] <multipass|2> i just setup a dual monitor setup yesterday and now all of a sudden these black artifacts appear on my screen every now and then, im using ATI, anyone experience anything like this
[03:19] <escott> darkenvy, well thats an ACPI issue. you could try a different kernel/look for modules that might support your board
[03:19] <Mini_> escott: I saw this error everytime when I shutdown ,it's uncomfortable
[03:20] <darkenvy> escott, the wierd thing is I was on 10.10 a couple times already. I know the kernel should work fine
[03:20] <darkenvy> jsut something funky is going on now with these installs
[03:20] <feard> is there a reason why i cant write to a file i created over ssh?
[03:20] <feard> i get permission denied
[03:20] <ward1234> check file permession feard,
[03:20] <darkenvy> feard, chmod 777 file.txt?
[03:20] <RavenHursT> feard: sudo chmod?
[03:20] <feard> im trying to write to .irssi/scripts
[03:20] <feard> did that all
[03:20] <Mini_> escott: It's an error on xorg-xserver-driver-evdev? Why I used the mouse driver haven't got this error?
[03:21] <escott> darkenvy, feard 664 is all he needs, giving rwx to others is not a good idea
[03:21] <feard> -rw-r----- 1 fear fear 6884 2011-05-11 22:04 config
[03:21] <feard> drwxr-xr-x 2 755 fear 4096 2011-05-11 22:09 scripts
[03:21] <darkenvy> ah! found something out! my bios went to default! which has bad memory timings! set back to normal now its blazin
[03:21] <iSkorup> #ubuntu-openchat
[03:21] <iSkorup> Lawl
[03:21] <escott> Mini_, if the mouse works don't worry about it. your mouse doesn't support relative axes whatever that might be
[03:21] <darkenvy> escott, ah well thats a habit of me due to bad guides on the internet
[03:21] <cryptodira> i am trying to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04.....toshiba, amd/64....  the .iso checksum matches..... then the burned cd checksum matches.... choosing either try or install both get me to a rapidly blinking login screen with 'other' as the only choice... which always returns an authorization failure..... what am i doing incorrectly??
[03:22] <darkenvy> everyone says "chmod -R 777" lol
[03:22] <MonkeyDust> folx, a superblock error when i try to mount an usb external hdd - i tried tune2fs - it worked before - hints & tips?
[03:23] <escott> darkenvy, heaven help us all... in any case im not sure what the issue with your install might be. could you refresh me on what hardware this is
[03:23] <escott> MonkeyDust, fsck/restore from a backup superblock (most filesystems have at least one)
[03:24] <feard> in my ftp program i dont see .irssi why is that?
[03:24] <MonkeyDust> escott: what's the exact fsck line?
[03:24] <escott> MonkeyDust, umount the fs, fsck /dev/sdX#
[03:24] <windparadise> hello good mornig, pls i am trying to compile openGTS and I am having the following error. what do I do to solve it? here is the error ... http://pastebin.com/RJRXKxch
[03:25] <nomtv80> does anyone know what some popular hardware and software help desk like forums would be
[03:25] <Guest71731> hey all. anyone here using the mactel ppa's? (macbook)?
[03:26] <MonkeyDust> escott: not better
[03:26] <escott> MonkeyDust, what kind of filesystem is this
[03:26] <feard> why is the dir .irssi not showing?
[03:26] <DaveD0101> has anyone figured out how to add an item to the unity bar?
[03:26] <escott> DaveD0101, start an application then right click and pin to the bar
[03:26] <MonkeyDust> escott: ext4, i want to mount it on ext3
[03:27] <AbTuX> DaveD0101, Just pin to the bar after opening any application
[03:27] <escott> MonkeyDust, you cannot mount ext4 as ext3 if extents are enabled (and they usually are)
[03:27] <MonkeyDust> escott: how can i find out?
[03:28] <DaveD0101> escott, Ok, I was trying to drag an icon to the bar where it says "drop to add application".  turns out that's broken.
[03:28] <Guest71731> anyone using a macbook?
[03:28] <DaveD0101> escott, AbTuX Thanks
[03:28] <escott> MonkeyDust, i just wouldn't do it. I *know* extents are not supported, but there are probably other features which wouldn't be supported
[03:29] <escott> MonkeyDust, if mount is complaining it is probably for good reason
[03:29] <windparadise> any answer to my issue please?
[03:30] <DaveD0101> escott, AbTuX: As far as you know, you're just stuck with whatever icon it uses while running?
[03:30] <RavenHursT> Any answers to my scp question?
[03:30] <cryptodira> i am trying to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04.....toshiba, amd/64....  the .iso checksum matches..... then the burned cd checksum matches.... choosing either try or install both get me to a rapidly blinking login screen with 'other' as the only choice... which always returns an authorization failure..... what am i doing incorrectly??
[03:30] <Guest71731> wht happened to the kiba dock project?
[03:30] <escott> DaveD0101, probably... unity is not intended to be super configurable
[03:31] <DaveD0101> escott, K.  Pycharms icon was all stretched, and when i scaled the bar it just changed into a quesion mark. :/
[03:31] <escott> DaveD0101, its probably looking for a png from the icon theme that would be smaller/larger and not finding it.
[03:31] <feard> fear@root:~/.irssi$ mv sysinfo.pl scripts/
[03:31] <feard> mv: cannot move `sysinfo.pl' to `scripts/sysinfo.pl': Permission denied
[03:31] <feard> fear@root:~/.irssi$
[03:31] <feard> any help?
[03:31] <FloodBot1> feard: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:32] <DaveD0101> escott, Any idea where those are located?  pycharm shipped with 3 or 4 scaled pngs
[03:32] <escott> cryptodira, thats a really strange thing, do any other live cds boot
[03:32] <escott> DaveD0101, /usr/share/icon? maybe
[03:32] <DaveD0101> escott, /usr/share/icons/gnome/?
[03:33] <DaveD0101> escott, Cool, I'll give it a whirl, thanks again
[03:33] <cryptodira> escott: yes, both 10.04 and 10.10 (both burned locally from the .iso) boot just fine..
[03:34]  * feard taps the mic.... this thing on
[03:35] <escott> feard, is your hostname "root"?!
[03:35] <escott> feard, ls -l scripts
[03:35] <feard> ya lol
[03:36] <feard> fear@root:~/.irssi$ ls -l scripts/
[03:36] <feard> total 0
[03:36] <feard> wont let me write to it at all
[03:36] <KM0201> ..
[03:36] <escott> feard, no "/" at the end. I want to see the directory permissions (also ls -l sysinfo.pl)
[03:37] <feard> same thing escott
[03:37] <UbuntuUser1138> Hello
[03:37] <feard> fear@root:~/.irssi$ ls -l scripts
[03:37] <feard> total 0
[03:37] <escott> feard, sorry ls -d scripts
[03:37] <escott> rather ls -ls
[03:37] <escott> ls -ld
[03:38] <feard> drwxr-xr-x 2 755 fear 4096 2011-05-11 22:09 scripts
[03:38] <feard> -rw-r--r-- 1 fear fear 11395 2011-05-11 22:14 sysinfo.pl
[03:38] <escott> cryptodira, thats really really strange. i have no idea what is going on
[03:38] <UbuntuUser1138> Mind if I bug someone.. me and my brother are both new users... and I have come across a question that me and him are having a debate on... and I was wondering if I could get some help/
[03:38] <cryptodira> escott: me either...that is why i am asking here....  :)
[03:38] <escott> feard, scripts is owned by 755 no fear, and fear group lacks w permissions, chown it to fear:fear
[03:39] <taglass> hmm sudo chown fear:fear scripts?
[03:39] <chu> sure!
[03:39]  * sabgenton poll: hey all does grep nobody /etc/passwd   show the UID of 65534
[03:39] <Lewoco> In natty, how do I restart gdm?
[03:39] <sabgenton> for ya'll
[03:39] <ActionParsnip> UbuntuUser1138: ask away
[03:39] <Lewoco> In maverick I used to do this using /etc/init.d/gdm, but I don't seem to have this script anymore =/
[03:39] <feard> but why cant i write on the ftp?
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> Lewoco: I always re-enable CTRL+ALT+BackSpace in keyboard settings -> options
[03:40] <Flynsarmy> Is anyone else experiencing 1 freeze per day on 11.04??? its frustrating as hell
[03:40] <escott> sabgenton, thats standard. 65534 is the highest uid allowed, and is the least privileged user
[03:40] <cryptodira> i am trying to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04.....toshiba, amd/64....  the .iso checksum matches..... then the burned cd checksum matches.... choosing either try or install both get me to a rapidly blinking login screen with 'other' as the only choice... which always returns an authorization failure..... what am i doing incorrectly??
[03:40] <sabgenton> escott: ah
[03:40] <sabgenton> not in centos it seems
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> Lewoco: you can use: sudo service gdm restart    maybe.
[03:40] <sabgenton> ok it's a openvz implementation
[03:40] <edbian> cryptodira: You don't need to burn a CD or download an .iso
[03:40] <escott> sabgenton, others may pick a different number, but you get the basic idea
[03:41] <taglass> Lewoco: sudo restart gdm3 or sudo restart gdm
[03:41] <ActionParsnip> cryptodira: did you download the alternate ISO?
[03:41] <edbian> cryptodira: Unless you want to
[03:41] <mozura> Does anyone here use MUGEN?
[03:41] <sabgenton> escott: ah ok
[03:41] <ActionParsnip> cryptodira: do you intend to clean install or upgrade the OS using the CD?
[03:41] <UbuntuUser1138> okay... we both use ubuntu.. but my brother is a dirty Pirate.. I would never do anything like that * cough cough * he wants to torrent things on ubuntu to switch them over to  his windows 7 partition. but he is really worried about windows virus getting transferred. now I have more experience then him but not that much, and this is one thing I could not answer. So if you torrent say games...
[03:41] <UbuntuUser1138> ...and music, or download any software for windows on ubuntu, can you catch something when you transfer over the files
[03:42] <cryptodira> edbian: i chose an iso in order to have the option of putting it on another machine without having to d/l more than once.
[03:42] <edbian> UbuntuUser1138: Yes
[03:42] <jamiewan> UbuntuUser1138, No
[03:42] <edbian> UbuntuUser1138: The ubuntu install will not be affected but windows will.
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> UbuntuUser1138: windows viruses won't affect ubuntu. You can scan files using clamtk
[03:42] <OlehK> Hello
[03:42] <edbian> UbuntuUser1138: You can use clamtk or clamav
[03:42] <cryptodira> ActionParsnip, No, i did not use the alternate... perhaps i should do so?
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> UbuntuUser1138: use the clamav for the latest defs
[03:42] <OlehK> I need help installing Ubuntu
[03:42] <UbuntuUser1138> okay but if they get on the ubuntu partition it won't spread out side of it if I catch it there
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> cryptodira: actually, the new CDs can upgrade installs. It's a new option. Just remembered
[03:43] <UbuntuUser1138> as in I find the infected fire before I transfer it over.
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> cryptodira: what video chip do you use?
[03:43] <cryptodira> ActionParsnip, UpGrade.... from 10.10    which in turn was an upgrade from 10.04 which was a fresh install.
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> UbuntuUser1138: makes sense doesn't it
[03:43] <edbian> UbuntuUser1138: Ubuntu will be unaffected.  The virus won't infect any machine that you don't place the files on.
[03:43] <jamiewan> Viruses for windows wont affect ubuntu
[03:43] <UbuntuUser1138> I know they wont effect it
[03:43] <OlehK> Hello? can anyone help me?
[03:43] <UbuntuUser1138> but I am talking about a dual boot with windows
[03:44] <jamiewan> same
[03:44] <UbuntuUser1138> but different hard drive.
[03:44] <edbian> UbuntuUser1138: What specifically is your question?
[03:44] <FerretWithASpork> Hi everyone, I'm having some problems reinstalling grub. I can't seem to get my bootable drive (dev/sda1 formatted to NTFS with a windows install on it) to mount. When I sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt it doesn't give me any errors as if it mounted fine but it doesn't mount.
[03:44] <Lewoco> What is the name of the process that creates the gnome taskbar?
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> cryptodira: for nvidia chips use the boot option:   nouvea.blacklist=1    for anything else try:  nomodeset
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> UbuntuUser1138: the location is moot, the copying is the important detail
[03:44] <UbuntuUser1138> downloaded windows viruses while using Ubuntu on a duel boot machine.
[03:44] <UbuntuUser1138> okay.. so it won;t matter
[03:44] <edbian> Lewoco: gnome-panel
[03:44] <escott> FerretWithASpork, (a) usually you mount to /mnt/windows not /mnt (b) have you checked "mount" afterwards and ls -l /mnt
[03:45] <UbuntuUser1138> as long as I don't copy it over.
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> UbuntuUser1138: it could be on a different machine, the detail is identical
[03:45] <edbian> UbuntuUser1138: that's right
[03:45] <UbuntuUser1138> okay.. that is good.
[03:45] <edbian> UbuntuUser1138: The viruses are never run on Linux.  Therefore they won't do anything you don't expect
[03:45] <escott> FerretWithASpork, and what does any of this have to do with reinstalling grub?
[03:45] <OlehK> I booted into Ubuntu for the first time, and when I try to install it, I always get an error on the third step.
[03:45] <UbuntuUser1138> I know but I mean when I boot back to windows.. like if I miss something but don't copy it over.
[03:46] <edbian> OlehK: What is the third step and what is the error?
[03:46] <edbian> UbuntuUser1138: I don't know what you're asking.  Please try asking it all on one line.
[03:46] <FerretWithASpork> escott: I have 2 HDs, my windows drive is the bootable drive, my second drive has linux on it. I installed windows after linux and now have no way to boot into linux so I'm on a live CD
[03:46] <ActionParsnip> UbuntuUser1138: then you will need to boot back and copy the data over
[03:46] <escott> FerretWithASpork, and have you followed the reinstall instructions?
[03:47] <escott> !grub | FerretWithASpork
[03:47] <Guest71731> anyone using the kiba dock on recent version of ubuntu?
[03:47] <UbuntuUser1138> if I get a windows virus on ubuntu, and I don't catch, but I don't copy it over to my windows on the same machine. can it still infect my windows OS?
[03:47] <OlehK> The step called "Allocate drive space"
[03:47] <lifesf> hi; i am guessing that this question is just as simple for ubuntu users than the server users,... i am using the server and would need to configure it wireless ... and at the same time,.. i do remember there is a way to filter on here so we can actually read replies but i cannot remember that :P
[03:47] <edbian> UbuntuUser1138: no
[03:47] <jamiewan> UbuntuUser1138, no no no
[03:47] <UbuntuUser1138> okay
[03:47] <UbuntuUser1138> awesome
[03:47] <edbian> UbuntuUser1138: :)
[03:47] <FerretWithASpork> escott: I've been using a "grub2 guide" on the ubuntu forums, I'll give that link a try; thanks.
[03:47] <UbuntuUser1138> thank you all...
[03:48] <UbuntuUser1138> sorry if I was not clear..
[03:48] <ejv> why would you copy a virus to windows
[03:48] <ejv> -_-
[03:48] <carlp> Greetings - is there a way to expose GPT partition labels in /dev ?
[03:48] <edbian> ejv: hahahah
[03:48] <edbian> UbuntuUser1138: no worries :D
[03:48] <UbuntuUser1138> ejv torrents... some of the users in my family are bloody pirates
[03:48] <escott> carlp, they arent under /dev/disk/by-label?
[03:48] <ejv> interesting, good luck
[03:49] <jamiewan> we are all pirates in some way lol
[03:49] <carlp> escott: no, those only appear to be for filesystem labels :(
[03:49] <UbuntuUser1138> http://www.cristgaming.com/pirate.swf
[03:49] <UbuntuUser1138> :D
[03:49] <escott> carlp, at lot of this stuff ends up under sys you could check there
[03:49] <UbuntuUser1138> yes we all jamiewan
[03:49] <cryptodira> ActionParsnip,  ati radeon 4200 series
[03:49] <OlehK> On the step called "Allocate drive space" nothing shows up....
[03:49] <carlp> escott: Ah! Good idea.
[03:49] <escott> carlp, or install gdisk
[03:49] <UbuntuUser1138> thanks... I will be back if I run into any other problems
[03:50] <lifesf> does anyone know how to set up wireless through gui? i would like to do this on a server install
[03:50] <lifesf> through terminal i mean
[03:51] <escott> lifesf, iwconfig to associated the essid, but you still have to do all the ifconfig stuff. there is also apparently a networkmanager command line utility (or you could ssh -X and use the gui)
[03:51] <Guest35051> guys can i add applications to the dash you know to the screen you get when you click on the ubuntu icon
[03:51] <OlehK> Can someone help? this is my first time running Ubuntu and I have no idea what to do
[03:51] <escott> Guest35051, start the application, right click, select pin
[03:51] <cryptodira> ActionParsnip, going to try your 'nomodeset' suggestion.... back in a bit.   Thanks.
[03:52] <ssfdre38> well gnome3 can be installed on 11.04
[03:52] <edbian> OlehK: Can you start gparted using the live CD?  It's in System -> Admin
[03:52] <Guest35051> hmm thanks escott also is there a way to move the unity launcher
[03:52] <lifesf> escott, ifconfig seems to work completely fine while connected on eth1, i tho need it on wlan... thing is i don't even see it appear at all in ifconfig when i check... this is a server install so no gui
[03:52] <canthus13> !dkms
[03:52] <FerretWithASpork> Do I install grub2 onto the HDD with ubuntu installed, or the bootable drive with windows?
[03:52] <magn3ts> Is it a known bug that the universal menu breaks for some QT apps?
[03:53] <magn3ts> It keeps breaking continually for VLC and VirtualBox.
[03:53] <OlehK> How do I get to system _> admin? I'm used to windows so :P
[03:53] <escott> FerretWithASpork, i do both usually
[03:53] <FerretWithASpork> escott okay thanks
[03:53] <escott> FerretWithASpork, if you do only one it has to be the one the bios will boot from usually sda
[03:53] <edbian> OlehK: Oh sorry.  I was thinking of the old version.  Click the Ubuntu logo in the upper right. type gparted in the search box, it should come up.
[03:54] <edbian> OlehK: The problem is that the installer is having trouble finding your HDDS.  We'll use gparted to find out why.  gparted is partition software
[03:54] <OlehK> Ok, got it
[03:54] <OlehK> alright I can see my drives
[03:54] <FerretWithASpork> escott: I'm getting this "/usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: Sector 32 is already in use by FlexNet; avoiding it." is that a problem?
[03:54] <arielsanflo> #elweb
[03:55] <edbian> OlehK: So here it works.  The partitions are correct and all that?
[03:56] <escott> FerretWithASpork, i dont know what FlexNet is, but grub installs something to the mbr, and then puts a second stage in free space apparently where flexnet wants to go. since it is only a warning i think it is ok, you could check in #grub to be sure
[03:56] <OlehK> I don't have any partitions :P also, should my RAID array be showing up?
[03:56] <escott> OlehK, do you have soft-raid in the bios
[03:56] <edbian> OlehK: Is this a software or hardware raid?  (You have at least 1 partition)
[03:56] <OlehK> I have no idea, was trying to figure that out 15 min ago
[03:56] <edbian> OlehK: I've never set up on a raid before
[03:57] <escott> OlehK, if you bios mentions raid (and you dont have a pci raid controller) you have soft-raid which sometimes works, but isn't encouraged
[03:57] <OlehK> I already have it set up, and works fine in windows, but it;s not showing up
[03:57] <edbian> OlehK: That fact that it works in windows means very little if it is a software raid
[03:58] <OlehK> yeah
[03:58] <escott> OlehK, the problem is linux doesn't use that bios controlled raid method, it has its own preferred solution called mdadm. its sometimes possible to use a bios raid with something called dmraid
[03:58] <edbian> I am in over my head.  I have no idea how to help anymore
[03:58] <edbian> I don't have a raid
[03:58] <escott> OlehK, a pci riser card with raid support would just require modprobing the drivers for the pci card (if it is a supported card)
[03:59] <OlehK> alright, I have to go anway
[03:59] <OlehK> Thanks for the help anyways :)
[04:00] <bisby> When i try to use apt-get my speeds are like 20kbps. when i run speedtest.net it says 8mbps. im rockin a pci dlink dwa-552 (xtreme n). just cant figure out when apt-get is so slow but everything else is mostly fine
[04:00] <ActionParsnip> bisby: install apt-fast and watch it fly :)
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> bisby: try a different source too.
[04:01] <bisby> ive tried multiple different sources. sometimes they'll spike up to 400kbps, but then they quickly level out around 20kbps. for a while it was averaging below 1kbps and actually reporting the speed in bps (ew)
[04:02] <jamiewan> ActionParsnip, apt-fast i can't find that????
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> jamiewan: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/01/new-apt-fast-version-now-with-full-full.html
[04:02] <jamiewan> ty
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> jamiewan: sorry http://www.webupd8.org/2010/08/you-can-now-install-apt-fast-from-ppa.html
[04:04] <triky> hi, I just installed natty on my laptop, but there's no wireless ... was working fine with 10.04
[04:04] <triky> could anyone help?