[00:34] <nibalizer> slangasek: ping
[00:35] <bkerensa> ugh
[00:35] <bkerensa> I cannot win for losing with this router
[00:38] <slangasek> nibalizer: ribbit
[00:40] <nibalizer> slangasek: mountall is returning status 2. what could that indicate? we're confused. one of the lvs is not being activated on boot
[00:46] <slangasek> nibalizer: hmm, looking
[00:46] <slangasek> nibalizer: returning status 2 just means mountall thinks something has failed that requires a maintenance shell to fix
[00:47] <nibalizer> okay. thanks.
[00:47] <slangasek> should only occur if you've pressed 'M' during boot to ask for a maintenance shell
[00:47] <nibalizer> yea, we're trying to figure out what the underlying problem is and how to fix it
[00:48] <slangasek> oh
[00:48] <slangasek> well, the exit code is probably not related then
[00:50] <slangasek> so is it a VG that's failing to be activated?
[00:51] <nibalizer> no, just a single logical volume
[00:52] <nibalizer> a custom one, not / or anything
[00:54] <bkerensa> slangasek: Do you know which package nm-applet is apart of? I found a pretty interesting bug
[00:54] <slangasek> bkerensa: network-manager-gnome
[00:54] <bkerensa> okie dokie
[00:55] <slangasek> nibalizer: a single logical volume that's part of a VG that *has* been activated?
[00:56] <nibalizer> give me a sec to look at it again
[00:56] <nibalizer> yes thats correct. there is one vg
[00:57] <nibalizer> and from that there are 5lvs, /, swap, /tmp, /var all come up, but /disk/tank doesn't
[00:57] <nibalizer> /disk/tank is listead as inactive in lvscan
[01:06] <nibalizer> arst
[01:19] <bkerensa> slangasek: This was the bug I ran into https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/924609
[01:19] <bkerensa> It just started occuring since my last update on 12.04 and now my Wifi is also acting very turbulent
[01:22] <slangasek> nibalizer: hum, I don't know why a single lv would be inactive on boot, unless someone had done something to it prior to the reboot.  Does 'vgchange -a y' have any effect?
[01:22] <slangasek> (because that's all we ever do on boot)
[01:23] <slangasek> bkerensa: definitely not my department ;)  But the desktop guys are good about picking up those bugs
[01:25] <bkerensa> :)
[01:25] <nibalizer> slangasek: that't what we've been trying but it hasn't been working, very strange
[01:26] <slangasek> nibalizer: ok good, then it's not my bug ;P  how about 'lvchange -a y /dev/myvg/mylv'?
[01:26] <slangasek> (and is there any clustering involved here?)
[01:27] <nibalizer> slangasek: nope
[01:28] <slangasek> hmm!
[01:28] <slangasek> can you pastebin the output from 'lvdisplay'?
[01:29] <nibalizer> sure i'm waiting on it reboot
[01:38] <nibalizer> slangasek: it didn't come back after lvchange
[01:38] <nibalizer> output of lvdisplay: http://pastie.org/3292805
[01:38] <bkerensa> Yelp is having a Back to the Future Ball on Thursday is anyone going? I'm RSVP'ed with +1
[02:01] <slangasek> nibalizer: anything in dmesg?
[02:02] <nibalizer> nothing useful
[02:02] <slangasek> nibalizer: you're definitely running into something I've never seen before
[02:02] <nibalizer> well thats comforting :)
[02:02] <nibalizer> our solution is 'its up for today' tomorrow we'll reload it natty and hope the problem just goes away
[02:18] <goddard> yo
[02:23] <c_smith> hello
[05:44] <c_smith> bkerensa, were you able to get a hold of dholbach? I feel like I'm hounding you by asking so much, so if you haven't heard from him last night, shoot me an email when you do, would you?
[05:45] <c_smith> that way we can get this planned out.
[06:53] <bkerensa> c_smith: When he comes on around midnight I will ask
[06:54] <bkerensa> and I will e-mail you when I know more
[20:38] <c_smith> Yo
[20:38] <c_smith> Hello, izdubar
[20:39] <c_smith> Ah, so it's MarkDude
[20:40]  * c_smith is enjoying his new Acer tablet
[20:41] <markdude> Sumthin like that
[20:41] <markdude> Hows it working c_smith
[20:43] <c_smith> Really nicely, Android Honeycomb, two cameras, a MicroSD port, wifi, over all, reallt nice.
[20:43] <c_smith> Brb
[20:50] <markdude> sounds cool
[20:58] <c_smith> Back
[21:13] <cweber10> Bkerensa: How it going.
[21:33] <ibkerensa> Hey cweber10 I'm good just running errands
[21:33] <ibkerensa> On my phone
[21:35] <cweber10> Ahhh was in my cs399 lab and thought it would be a good time to say hi.
[22:21] <bkerensa> cweber10: When did you want to get some mentoring? :)
[22:22] <bkerensa> I think I'm supposed to check in with you weekly I have a form I have to sign and send somewhere :P
[22:23] <bkerensa> cweber10: I'm available via Hangout during the day almost M-F or we can do it over IRC but if we do Hangout I can have access to meeting tools
[22:25] <cweber10> what ever works best for you, and I can pass any information on to the two other people as well
[22:26] <cweber10> Becca Says hi!
[22:27] <cweber10> She would like to know if there is anything that you know of that will happen before the 3rd week of March (end of our term)
[22:28] <bkerensa> cweber10: Friday we are having a Ubuntu Hour in Portland it is announced on our mailing list
[22:29] <bkerensa> cweber10: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars/ also lists most if not all of the international events occuring online etc
[22:29] <cweber10> Fridays are a bit hard for her at the moment.
[22:30] <cweber10> bkerensa: yea we have that link for the class. Just thinking that local stuff could be a bit more engageing as we could see people face to face
[22:33] <bkerensa> Yeah well the Portland Ubuntu Hour this Friday and we will likely have another one next month too before you adjourn
[22:33] <bkerensa> Summer/Spring is generally a bit more FOSSy... Geeks seem to hibernate in the Winter
[22:33] <bkerensa> :)
[22:34] <cweber10> Will have to keep an eye out for that so we can get out.
[22:36] <bkerensa> cweber10: Seems like some OSU LUG and PSU ACM folks might be coming to the Ubuntu Hour this friday
[22:36] <bkerensa> :D
[22:36] <bkerensa> might be a good op for engaging
[22:41] <cweber10> yea will be intresting, my problem is getting a ride from salem.
[22:46] <bkerensa> cweber10: Yeah... I offered Becka to come and do a presentation at WOU for your class but told her it would be contingent on me being able to get a ride out there.
[22:46] <bkerensa> cweber10: One of the other mentees just e-mailed me.
[22:49] <bkerensa> cweber10: If you are interested some OSU students are coming up for the Ubuntu Hour and they might possibly be able to give you a ride up etc but they are also doing a birthday party so you would likely have to go to that with them or hangout in Portland after until they head back
[22:49] <bkerensa> :D
[22:49] <bkerensa> <relud> bkerensa: monmouth isn't terribly out of the way, i'd be willing to pick them up if need be, but they'd have to be up for the dual birthday party
[22:50] <cweber10> bkerensa: yea if you can help set up communication<EMAIL_ADDRESS>is my e-mail. and I am actuly in salem friday, only have one class in the morning
[22:50] <bkerensa> cweber10:  Can you just /join #OSU-LUG
[22:50] <bkerensa> :)
[22:50] <bkerensa> the person is relud
[22:51] <cweber10> BBL Lab is over and I have to ride the bus home. might get on my phone while traveling will depend on how my phone acts
[22:55] <bkerensa> kk
[23:02] <bkerensa> albrigha: Hope you can make it Friday looks like we might have a very good turnout... Got students coming from WOU/OSU/PSU
[23:02] <bkerensa> :D
[23:03] <albrigha> bkerensa: cool!
[23:03] <albrigha> I think it will work out
[23:04]  * bkerensa is off to The Home Depot


[18:52] <SwedeMike> jmworx: 2.6.27-5 fixes it according to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=938139
[18:54] <Ayabara> Stormx2: the dependencies on my system are broken, so I thought I'd check the web. it was packages.ubuntu.com I was looking for :)
[18:56] <jmworx> SwedeMike: Thanks. I just "dpkg -i" all these and I'm all set?
[18:57] <mte_> hi.. when I was using Hardy LAN transfers were slow (I have realtek RTL-8169). Just after upgrading to Intrepid beta they became good enough (20MB/s on a gigabit lan) just as I read on some forums but after a few updates and reboots they slowed down to 3-4MB/s again. Is this a known issue? Is there any workaround?
[19:02] <Ayabara> ikonia: I think my problem is here: libstreams-dev: Depends: libstreams0 (= 0.5.11-1) but 0.5.11-1ubuntu0~hardy0~ppa1 is to be installed
[19:03] <SwedeMike> jmworx: I received those kernels via dist-upgrade, so if you have network connectivity, just dist-upgrade and you should get it
[19:04] <Ayabara> ikonia: and manually installing libstreams0 seems to have solved my problems.
[19:05] <|neon|> ? i have an external hd which uses e-sata t connect to my laptop, it worked flawlessly under 8.04 but i can seem to find where to go to mounted on ibex any suggestions?
[19:06] <Babylykke> I think I know why I don`t have the nm-applet icon in the panel anymore. Think I removed it because it was a weired icon there.
[19:06] <Babylykke> Is it possible to get it back?
[19:06] <Babylykke> I did update it now
[19:06] <Babylykke> and there was some updates for network-management.
[19:06] <Babylykke> I still cannot find it in "add to panel" menu.
[19:07] <Babylykke> and the nm-applet is running.
[19:08] <ShackJack> !enter > Babylykke
[19:08] <ShackJack> It's not a panel app, but you add it to your session startup programs...
[19:08] <Babylykke> that`s ok, ShackJack and obottu.
[19:09] <ShackJack> Babylykke: nm-applet --sm-disable
[19:09] <Babylykke> Thank you.. I`ll try to find it :D
[19:09] <ShackJack> Babylykke: You do need a "notification area" notified in one of your panels, of course.... Under Prefs->Sessions is where you add the startup stuff..
[19:10] <Babylykke> The command should be "nm-applet --sm-enable"?
[19:10] <ShackJack> Babylykke: Yep..
[19:10] <Babylykke> it was "nm-applet --sm-disable"
[19:10] <Babylykke> :D
[19:10] <Babylykke> brb.. gotta try this now :D
[19:10] <Babylykke> I`ll kiss you if it works!
[19:10] <ShackJack> Please don't :)
[19:16] <danbh_intrepid> !schedule
[19:19] <Guma> ikonia: Little update. After switching memory stick that failed on my new system seems like I do not get any errors yet when running memtest on my older system. Perhaps is the board?
[19:20] <Babylykke> The nm-applet icon does not show up :s
[19:21] <Babylykke> nm-applet --sm-enable
[19:21] <Babylykke> that what I putted in the sessons --> Network Manager --> edit
[19:21] <Babylykke> in the command field.
[19:24] <Stormx2> Right
[19:24] <Stormx2> I thought I got rid of pulse in 8.04
[19:24] <Stormx2> 8.10 seems to have brought it back and it's making things crash
[19:24] <Stormx2> So how can I remove it again?
[19:30] <|neon|> ? i have an external hd which uses e-sata t connect to my laptop, it worked flawlessly under 8.04 but i can seem to find where to go to mounted on ibex any suggestions?
[19:33] <ratpoison> hello! question about upgrading to 8.10. I currently use 8.04.1 amd64 fglrx. If I upgrade to 8.10, will I lose compiz support?
[19:35] <Babylykke> If I was you I would have waited till 8.10 stable release.
[19:35] <Babylykke> Lot`s of buggs in 8.10 beta.
[19:35] <berniv6> JontheEchidna: kwin 4:4.1.2-0ubuntu2 did not fix the kwin redrawing issue for me (we talked about that two or three days ago)
[19:36] <JontheEchidna> hmm, should probably tell Riddell about that
[19:36] <ratpoison> sure, but given that current fglrx isn't compatible with xorg 7.4, will that ever be resolved in 8.10?
[19:36] <ShackJack> Babylykke: Do you have a notification area in your panel?
[19:37] <ratpoison> If ati releases fglrx 8.10 which will probably have xorg 7.4 support, will that make it into intrepid?
[19:37] <berniv6> JontheEchidna: me or you? I don't have any more information than I got from you, I didn't even find a launchpad bug or forum post describing it
[19:37] <Babylykke> which is what?
[19:37] <JontheEchidna> berniv6: I saw the bug earlier today too
[19:38] <ShackJack> Babylykke: It's a panel applet - the system "tray" that shows certain icons/notifications...  Should be one in your panel - a pidgin icon should be there, etc...
[19:38] <Babylykke> Everything is in norwegian here :S Not sure if I have it or not, ShackJack.
[19:38] <berniv6> JontheEchidna: "good", I'm not seeing ghosts then
[19:38] <Babylykke> ShackJack: I have the "username + loggoff button", sound and the time.
[19:39] <Babylykke> at the upper right corner.
[19:39] <ShackJack> Babylykke: You are using pidgin and not seeing an icon for it?
[19:39] <ShackJack> (in the panel)
[19:39] <Babylykke> When I have pidgin up and running the icon changes to a green circle.
[19:40] <ShackJack> Hmmm...  Try evoking nm-applet from a terminal...
[19:40] <Babylykke> christer@laptop1:~$ evoking nm-applet
[19:40] <Babylykke> bash: evoking: command not found
[19:40] <Babylykke> christer@laptop1:~$
[19:40] <Babylykke> Maybe I have done something stupid :S
[19:41] <Babylykke> I tryed to install kde`s network manager.
[19:41] <ShackJack> Babylykke: There's your problem - you have to install the program - it's not called nm-applet though.. can't remember the bame..
[19:41] <ShackJack> !enter | Babylykke
[19:41] <Babylykke> a few hours ago
[19:41] <ShackJack> Babylykke: do you have network-manager installed?
[19:42] <Babylykke> I do have "network management framework (GNOME frontend)" installed.
[19:42] <Babylykke> in the add/remove programs.
[19:42] <ShackJack> network-manager-gnome - try doing an install of that... if that's installed nm-applet should run... sudo aptitude install network-manager-gnome ;)
[19:44] <Babylykke> It says it`s allready installed.
[19:45] <ShackJack> Then nm-applet should be abled to be called from the command line...
[19:45] <ShackJack> Unless it's an Ibex bug..
[19:46] <Babylykke> Did the sudo aptitude install network-manager-gnome. I`ll try to relogg now and see what`s happening.
[19:47] <stankils> Hi, I have a problem with ethernet card not detected on a fairly old hp laptop, the card is ich7 based and iirc was using e1000 driver. in hardy it worked fine. ibex doesn't show it on `ifconfig -a'.not sure whether the module is blacklisted or not, if it is where do I cancel it(the bug seems to be ich8+ only according to launchpad)?
[19:48] <ShackJack> stankils: Check /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[19:49] <stankils> Actually, e1000e module isn't even loading, and modprobing e1000 manually doesn't seem to help, I still don't have the interface in ifconfig
[19:50] <Ayabara> I'm trying to compile digikam 0.10 beta4. I have libkdcraw5 installed, but cmake still says I don't. Any good ideas?
[19:51] <stankils> lsmod returns `used by' 0 for e1000... Any ideas for getting the interface?
[19:52] <Babylykke> Still not showing up... think I give up now.
[19:52] <ShackJack> Babylykke: the command is not found?
[19:53] <Babylykke> not the one you said no.
[19:53] <Babylykke> but nm-applet does work.
[19:53] <Babylykke> but it doesn`t show up.
[19:55] <ShackJack> O.K. only thing I can think of is your don't have a notification area in your panel...
[19:58] <Babylykke> http://img227.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ssga6.png
[19:59] <Babylykke> I do got it, right, ShackJack?
[19:59] <ShackJack> I don't see a notification area in that pic... add one...
[19:59] <Babylykke> :O
[19:59] <Babylykke> How do I add it then?
[19:59] <ShackJack> It's a panel app...
[20:00] <Babylykke> I found it :D
[20:00] <Babylykke> thank god..
[20:00] <Babylykke> it`s working!!!!
[20:00]  * Babylykke kiss ShackJack :D
[20:01] <ShackJack> That is where program notification icons, battery, and things like that show up... If you have nm-applet in your session it should appear automatically...
[20:01] <ShackJack> Babylykke: I hope you're a girl cuase I don't swing the other way :)
[20:03]  * ShackJack is a little perplexed if you don't know about the notification area, why you are testing beta OS's
[20:03] <ShackJack> ;)
[20:03] <ninjafury> hi, how do I upgrade from kubuntu 8.1 alpha to beta
[20:04] <jaxdahl2> !final
[20:04] <ShackJack> ninjafury: Just sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade
[20:06] <ninjafury> thanks guys. Also, how does this chat room differ from #ubuntu?
[20:06] <Babylykke> "ubuntu+1 is for 8.10 Beta
[20:06] <Babylykke> #ubuntu is for all other releases
[20:06] <Babylykke> I guess.
[20:07] <ninjafury> So this is bleeding edge then.. Well, this saves me a lot of time for future problems.
[20:15] <PolitikerNEU> Does anyone know if there is a (if possible, non-server) kdepim synchronisation tool to sync between desktop/desktop/laptop (KDE 3.5/KDE 4.1/KDE 4.1)?
[20:22] <wastrel> i'm installing intrepid tonight on my thinkpad
[20:22] <Assid> there goes another laptop in dust
[20:22] <gil> has anyone noticed huge slowdowns in firefox.
[20:23] <gil> rather i should say, with firefox
[20:23] <Assid> FF has been slow since 3
[20:23] <gil> mine is really sluggish
[20:23] <Assid> and thats in windows as well
[20:30] <Ayabara> hm. segfaults when compiling digikam 0.10 from source. that can't be good
[20:31] <ninjafury> Where does fstab keep its log file?
[20:34] <Zaiden> When 8.10 is officially released, will you have to install it over the beta?
[20:35] <SwedeMike> Zaiden: no, you just upgrade to it
[20:36] <SwedeMike> Zaiden: via the regular upgrade tool
[20:36] <wastrel> Assid: are there reports of trouble on thinkpads?
[20:36] <Assid> wastrel: nah.. just messing with you.. i m not sure if theres any known issues anywhere
[20:36] <Assid> just avoid it if you have the e1000
[20:37] <wastrel> my poor thinkpad is not loving hardy atm
[20:37] <wastrel> upgraded since feisty so i think it's time for a fresh install
[20:37] <Assid> im not too fond of hardy to be honest.. its just sluggish
[20:38] <Assid> specially if you compare feisty
[20:38] <PolitikerNEU> Is the e1000e bug "fixed" (I know it isn't fixed yet, but I think some kernel developers have found a work-around) in the current intrepid kernel?
[20:38] <SwedeMike> PolitikerNEU: 2.6.27-5 supposedly fixes it
[20:38] <PolitikerNEU> ok
[20:39] <Assid> i wonder how many e1000e's they broke permanently to get that fix
[20:39] <mnemoc> hi, is intrepid supposed to support 3g modems without hacking?
[20:40] <maxb_> linphone is broken in intrepid, for want of a no-change rebuild. There's a lp bug, but is there some central place where need to no-change rebuilds for library transitions should be notified?
[20:46] <bofh80> mnemoc, the network manager applet now appears to support 3g modem connections, but i haven't tried it
[20:46] <bofh80> pity it doesn't support bluetooth with pand yet . . .
[20:49] <sharms> Using intrepid beta, when I look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log, using 'cat Xorg.0.log' prints different results than 'more Xorg.0.log'
[20:49] <sharms> anyone have any insight into that?
[20:49] <sharms> less also sees the same things more does
[20:49] <sharms> err cat does
[20:50] <mnemoc> bofh80: what "update to ppa" means?
[20:53] <m[a]tt> hi
[20:53] <m[a]tt> is there a easy way to change the resolution of an ubuntu 8.10 box if there isnt a monitor connected to? i just want to use it over remote desktop
[21:05] <rmn> m[a]tt, still present?  if all you want to use it for is remote desktop have a look at FreeNX
[21:05] <MenZa> Hey all - I'm having some GRUB issues in the beta. I get an error 2, so I'm attmepting to setup GRUB manually right now. However, when I setup (hd0) in grub on the livecd, I get "Error 2: Bad file or directory type" - that said, I just mounted the drive---an ext3 drive---where /boot/grub/stage1 does exist, which this claims it doesn't. Help?
[21:05] <maxb_> heh. 20 mins after I ask my question, a fixed linphone hits the archive :-)
[21:08] <m[a]tt> rmn: iam pretty pleased with the inbuild vnc server, isnt there a way to tell ubuntu to use some higher resolution even if no monitor is present?
[21:09] <rmn> m[a]tt, i think X in ibex uses auto-conf to determine available resolutions each time.  anything you write in xorg.conf should in principle take precedence over autoconf
[21:10] <m[a]tt> oh i thought you cant use xorgconf anymore because of that autoconf thingy - i suppose that would work then, thank you!
[21:10] <rmn> m[a]tt, however I like the elegance of FreeNX, and I dare to use it over the internet.  Second, it makes the machine available for multiple users and doesn't allow anyone to see what you're doing
[21:14] <rmn> m[a]tt, NX allows you to set the resolution client-side for each session/session resume.
[21:14] <m[a]tt> mh i dont need multi user but i read its faster than vnc so iwill give it a try, thank you :) i hope there is a windows client for it
[21:14] <m[a]tt> ah thats a nice feature )
[21:14] <rmn> m[a]tt, there is a client
[21:14] <m[a]tt> :)
[21:15] <m[a]tt> well freenx is my way then :) i wonder why it isnt included as default
[21:15] <rmn> m[a]tt, most guides are out of date.  it comes configured out of the box, but you must add another repository to install it
[21:15] <m[a]tt> k google will tell me the rest then, thank you for fast help :)
[21:15] <rmn> m[a]tt, VNC is excellent for tech support because it is remote control.  "the real wtf" is why it isn't in the central repository.
[21:16] <rmn> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX should be all you need.  the guide is outdated.  simply add the repository and install via synaptic
[21:16] <m[a]tt> oh a dailywtf reader ;)
[21:16] <m[a]tt> kk
[21:18] <bofh80> rmn, with ubuntu VNC is used with vino. and you enable the 'server' by going to System > Preferences > Remote Desktop ? i can't quite remember but isn't it installed by default too?
[21:19] <rmn> bofh80, sounds correct to me.
[21:19] <bofh80> and freenx is very nice extension to XDMCP , i have the client install, although i've yet to try it
[21:19] <bofh80> apart from a couple of quick tests ofc
[21:20] <rmn> i started with NomachineNX, but "forgotten" sessions clogged it up (max 2 users and max 1-2 session)
[21:20] <bofh80> nasty, using freenx now ?
[21:21] <rmn> the neat thing with NX is that if you have an NX server on a net you can use it as a via to VNC other machines on the intranet, yet still secured (ssh) from the nx server to client (ie. internet)
[21:21] <rmn> i've yet to set up freenx on my server (currently debian etch, replacing it with ibex when i get a set of new disks).  i did set up freenx on my ibex laptop, thouhg
[21:21] <bofh80> lol. ssh, secure. heheh. ohh that was a ring dinger recently. everyone with a brain been regenerating those keys lol
[21:22] <rmn> hehehe!
[21:22] <bofh80> random ey lol
[21:22] <bofh80> m
[21:22] <rmn> only tested it with client on localhost, which i must say is a LOT better than VNC on localhost (window in window in window ....)
[21:23] <bofh80> i'm currently stuck using 8.04 on my old 30gig that's dying (you can hear it :S ) and i can't use 8.10 on my newer 80gig cos i can't get pand connected :) well it connects, but it suddenly drops it afterwards
[21:23] <rmn> pand?
[21:24] <bofh80> bluetooth network connection, using 3g connection on phone via bluetooth
[21:25] <rmn> oh, sweet.  i haven't tried it yet with my SE K750 (note, only gprs).  which phones are supported?
[21:25] <bofh80> any that can do internet via bluetooth it would appear
[21:25] <bofh80> on hardy anyway
[21:26] <rmn> they actually managed to agree on a standard?!
[21:26] <bofh80> via usb as well, but my usb connection on the phone don't work no more
[21:27] <rmn> which phone?
[21:27] <bofh80> erm erm, erm, erm, k770i, sonyericsson
[21:28] <bofh80> i got a sweeeet deal. :) i don't pay for data, and i got no cap ;p
[21:28] <rmn> did SE ever fix the calendar so you can have recurring events?
[21:29] <rmn> nice
[21:29] <bofh80> but only runs at 384kbps so like 46k/s max lol
[21:29] <acemo> is it a known bug for the kubuntu live cd installer to crash after choosing a keyboard layout and when at 56% of scanning disks?
[21:29] <bofh80> and aint great for games either. well would be better, but i got like 10 hops till i reach the actual internet
[21:30] <bofh80> i have no idea about the calander i don't use em
[21:30] <rmn> bofh80, is that an issue with ubuntu, or bad coverage?
[21:31] <bofh80> my phone network
[21:31] <reaby> update manager replys that i have to correct broken packages, apt and synaptic doesn't find any broken packages, what to do, file a bug report on unknown issue ?
[21:31] <bofh80> there internal network
[21:31] <bofh80> pass me through proxies filters and all sorts from machine to machine, ti's sick. gotta be loggin everything
[21:32] <rmn> set up some secure link home first, then.  the speed, is that also a network-limit?
[21:32] <ianliu_88> anyone getting "Invalid argument" when trying to play some mp3 with Totem?
[21:33] <bofh80> phone limit at the moment, i'm not sure they'd be happy if i stuck my sim in one capable of full 3g tho ;p
[21:33] <bofh80> secure link, sure i could, but that would just make it slower, more hops lol
[21:33] <rmn> bofh80, currently on edge, and not 3g then?
[21:33] <rmn> bofh80, sure, but faster than tor ;)
[21:34] <bofh80> rmn, nah not edge only 1 operater in UK does edge i think, it's just a basic 3g, there are better 3g's now that do 8meg, but my chip is just a basic kind and this is as fast it goes heh
[21:35] <reaby> anyone had same problem with update manager ?
[21:36] <ianliu_88> Hmm changing sounds to OSS works. The Autodetect gives an error
[21:37] <balachmar> Does anyone know how I can pump up the volume? My sound volume is low since my upgrade...
[21:39] <rmn> balachmar, try the mixer.  on my machine the master does nothing, whereas there are two PCM-controls that both are set to medium, and can be turned up.
[21:41] <balachmar> rmn: that one is totally up...
[21:42] <balachmar> ooh found it... it is surround\
[21:42] <balachmar> thanks man! I really found that annoying!
[21:44] <acemo> the scanning disks bar went to 100% and then disappeared.. and am still on the keyboard layout option in the setup.. great >.<
[21:50] <jester7> i'm about to upgrade to intrepid beta and am getting the message that there are no fglrx drivers available on 8.10
[21:50] <jester7> my question is....does that mean i will get no 3d at all out of my x1250?  or will there be another driver installed
[21:55] <DJones> After todays updates, my wireless won't connect to the router, its an Atheros Ar2413 802.11bg built in device, can anybody suggest a solution?
[21:56] <jester7> DJones: does your network manager show the wireless networks?
[21:56] <jester7> DJones: meaning...does it actually show your router in the "available networks" list?
[21:57] <DJones> jester7: no, its not showing anything
[21:58] <jester7> DJones: ahh, ok.  i dont' really have any info, as i haven't even installed intrepid yet.  just figured if it was simple, i'd be able to help
[21:59] <jester7> i was actually trying to find out of, since there is no fglrx drivers for intrepid, would my ati x150 work for compiz
[22:02] <taggie> jester7, i can't speak directly to your card, but my mobility 5250 (equiv to x1600 desktop) works _great_ with compiz. did need to force "Option		"AccelMethod"	"EXA" in xorg.conf tho.
[22:03] <taggie> prior to intrepid, i needed xgl and all sorts of funny workarounds to get compiz happy, and when it was happy, it didn't perform very well.
[22:06] <DJones> solved it, i hate it when people press the little button on the front that disables the internal wireless - Doh
[22:10] <jester7> DJones: lol, i was seriously going to suggest that, but figured a beta tester would have taken a look :p
[22:10] <jester7> taggie: thanks for the info.  i'm going to try the livecd first to see how it goes
[22:11] <taggie> yeah, the livecd worked right off the bat, but also try modifying xorg.conf and using ctrl-alt-backspace to restart X to try that EXA mod.
[22:14] <reaby> so. Update manager says i have broken packages, but apt-get and synaptic doesn't find any errors in database, tried even apt-get install -reinstall update-manager, but problem persist.
[22:17] <bardyr> reaby, tried a dist-upgrade ?
[22:17] <reaby> yep, it works.
[22:18] <Daisuke_Ido> time to grab a beta disc and give this a shot
[22:19] <reaby> looks like i'm having some sort of unknown bug in update-manager
[22:20] <Daisuke_Ido> should be fine keeping my home partition intact, i would hope
[22:20] <Tallken> reaby: no errors?
[22:21] <reaby> Tallken: running from terminal, it only says "current dist not found in meta-release file"
[22:21] <Tallken> reaby: today, thanks to having tried PPA's kde4's repo, I had to use aptitude to figure out what the hell was happening... automatic conflict solving, yum yum! and I usually don't like aptitude :P
[22:22] <Tallken> reaby: weird... unaware of what that might be
[22:22] <reaby> well, time to file a bug report.
[22:23] <tta> reaby: unable to reproduce... just run, update-manager installed 7 updates
[22:24] <tta> reaby: only error was the one you mentioned, current dist not found in meta release file
[22:28] <Omoikane_> I upgraded to Ibex beta and my track pad scroll and mute button don't work anymore. I can't find the settings to make the adjustments. any ideas?
[22:37] <BenHoltz> Can someone help me get compiz working on my newly upgraded machine?
[22:37] <taggie> BenHoltz, what's your video card?
[22:38] <BenHoltz> intel
[22:38] <BenHoltz> the problem is it cannot find the bin file
[22:38] <taggie> Sorry, don't know intel well enough to help.
[22:38] <BenHoltz> /usr/bin/compiz: 415: /usr/local/bin/compiz: not found
[22:38] <taggie> that's odd.
[22:38] <BenHoltz> yah...
[22:38] <BenHoltz> :)
[22:39] <BenHoltz> anyone want to help me figure out if my settings are messed up of the package manager?
[22:39] <taggie> did you do anything special to get compiz working on the version you upgraded from? I don't have /usr/local/bin/compiz either.
[22:40] <BenHoltz> it was soo long ago, I cannot remember
[22:40] <taggie> I'd try from a liveCD. I'd be willing to bet you had to jump through hoops to get running on your old version and it broke the upgrade path
[22:41] <BenHoltz> I'm sure it might be the xorg.conf, but I haven't a clue where to start...  the compiz guys say that its  the package manager
[22:41] <BenHoltz> the live cds work
[22:41] <BenHoltz> out of the box
[22:41] <taggie> yeah, i'd say it's the packages too
[22:41] <taggie> may want to try a dpkg-reconfigure of the compiz packages.
[22:43] <RAOF> BenHoltz: That's a bug in the compiz package which should be fixed in the next upload.
[22:43] <RAOF> BenHoltz: I presume you're using either Edubuntu or Ubuntu Studio?
[22:44] <BenHoltz> ubuntu studio
[22:44] <BenHoltz> RAOF: is there a fix I can apply by had for now, or just wait?
[22:44] <BenHoltz> hand*
[22:45] <amrik> Hi I'm testing 8.10 and my network just died
[22:45] <amrik> I click the icon in the top right and it says "device is unmanaged", im not sure what that means though
[22:46] <amrik> if i look at the network connections dialogue it just has lfupdown (eth0)
[22:46] <amrik> connection information is also greyed out
[22:47] <RAOF> BenHoltz: You can stick something in ~/.config/compiz/compiz-manager... let me check.
[22:48] <RAOF> BenHoltz: COMPIZ_BIN_PATH="/usr/bin" COMPIZ_NAME="compiz.real"
[22:48] <RAOF> Stick those on separate lines in ~/.config/compiz/compiz-manager
[22:48] <BenHoltz> ok I'll give that a go
[22:50] <BenHoltz> RAOF: I cannot find that file
[22:51] <amrik> i think hal being upgraded has something to do with it
[22:51] <TriMN> Hi, I just upgraded to Ubuntu 8.10 and wondering where the Network Manager choice from System => Preferences is
[22:51] <TriMN> I can right click on the Network icon in the top bar and select "edit connections" ... but I would like to have that choice in the menu (System => Preferences) too
[22:51] <bobbyd> hi
[22:52] <amrik> TriMN, can you do me a huge favour and tell me what you have listed under your eth0?
[22:52] <bobbyd> I updated to Intrepid and my gnome "places" menu is a bit broken, when I click on "home folder" I get "Failed to execute child process "audacious" (No such file or directory)"
[22:52] <RAOF> BenHoltz: Sorry.  You'll need to create that file.
[22:53] <bobbyd> I uninstalled audacious as it was launching every time I clicked "home folder"
[22:53] <bobbyd> any ideas? I've checked the default actions settings in Nautilus and there's nothing obvious there
[22:53] <amrik> is there any way to reset the networking completely?
[22:54] <amrik> i cant even edit the settings under network connections its telling me that Ifupdown is readonly
[22:54] <TriMN> amarik: http://pastebin.no/49245 <- that?
[22:55]  * PatrickAupperle waves hello
[22:55] <PatrickAupperle> Hello everyone, I broke compiz
[22:55] <PatrickAupperle> I then removed it
[22:55] <PatrickAupperle> Now it refuses to uninstall
[22:55] <PatrickAupperle> I mean reinstall
[22:56] <PatrickAupperle> I have a topic on the forums
[22:56] <PatrickAupperle> Hello?
[22:56] <PatrickAupperle> Is there anyone here?
[22:58] <TriMN> How do I add the Network Manager back to the panel menus (System=>Preferences) ... It ran away after upgrading to 8.10
[23:00] <TriMN> oh well... downgrading that is :)
[23:00] <bobbyd> TriMN: right-click panel "add to panel..." ?
[23:01] <BenHoltz> RAOF: that didn't help any
[23:06] <BenHoltz> RAOF: its saying /usr/bin/compiz: 415: /usr/bincompiz.real: not found
[23:14] <zurn> has anyone noticed a "hum" in lcd screens / laptops in ibex?
[23:14] <RAOF> BenHoltz: Eep, sorry.  The COMPIZ_BIN_PATH should be /usr/bin/ rather than /usr/bin
[23:17] <zurn> where if you look at a screen really close, you can see the pixels flutter or updated?
[23:21] <amrik> ok i've nailed the problem now down to dns
[23:21] <amrik> how can i manually set dns servers in /etc/network/interfaces?
[23:22] <rmn> zurn, sure that wasn't the case before?  flickering like that is well known, and actually one of the ways to tell quality panels from lower ones
[23:22] <zurn> rmn, did not have it in 8.04.1
[23:23] <rmn> zurn, http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/inversion.php
[23:23] <zurn> and before i switched from 8.04.1 to 8.10 beta, i formatted and installed 8.04.1 then did a update manager to 8.10
[23:25] <rmn> that page indicates that it might be the voltage that's off
[23:26] <davismj> hows ibex beta?
[23:26] <zurn> rmn - i get the most on #5 especially on edge of panel and a TON on lower left corner
[23:26] <zurn> rmn: cant really do much about the VGA vs DVI - its a laptop
[23:26] <BenHoltz> hey guys... so I figured out that compiz runs as root, but not as a regular user for some reason... anyone have any ideas?
[23:27] <Tribaal> Hi all
[23:27] <rmn> isn't voltage settings available in xorg.conf?  try to look up on the documentation, and file a bugreport.
[23:28] <Tribaal> Got a specific question about NetworkManager in Intrepid - should I just fire ahead or is there amore relevant place to ask?
[23:28] <amrik> ok so summary: to fix networkmanager issue, disable it using update-rc.d NetworkManager remove, then set the interface up manually in /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/resolv.conf and that will fix network
[23:28] <amrik> bye
[23:29] <bofh80> fireaway
[23:30] <Tribaal> In Hardy, joining a network with TLS/TKIP encryption worked out of the box, but in Intrepid (using NM 0.7) , I can't join the network anymore
[23:30] <Tribaal> actually it's almost like a GUI bug - I fill in the wizard, but NM won't let me click "Next"
[23:30] <Tribaal> Like the fields don't validate
[23:31] <outbri> Tribaal: I had the same problem.
[23:31] <Tribaal> did you solve it?
[23:31] <outbri> Yes, my internet is working now but I'm trying to remember all the steps I took.
[23:32] <Tribaal> Bloody school network - admins feel like they work for the CIA or something
[23:32] <Tribaal> outbri: I didn't try entering the network setup by hand in gconf - but I'm not sure it would work at all
[23:34] <outbri> Tribaal: With intrepid I have had to run sudo /rc/networking restart just about every time I login, but that's after I entered some stuff elsewhere. I'm looking for which file I edited
[23:34] <Tribaal> ok
[23:34] <Tribaal> outbri: Thanks a lot for your help - I'll make a howto out of it and post it to the forums
[23:35] <zurn> whats the copy url ?
[23:36] <bobbyd> hi
[23:36] <Tribaal> outbri: did you setup a static /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf file by any chance? I'd like to avoid that and keep my settings dynamic if I can
[23:37] <bobbyd> what determines what's on the "places" menu on the panel? I can't seem to edit that when I right-click and select "Edit Menus"
[23:38] <zurn> rmn http://paste.ubuntu.com/54801/plain/
[23:39] <Tribaal> bobbyd: try adding "bookmarks" from Nautilus
[23:39] <Tribaal> bobbyd: They apprear in "places".
[23:39] <Tribaal> Is that what you meant?
[23:39] <bobbyd> Tribaal: I want to wok out how it works though, as I'm getting an error whenever I click on "home folder" that's got something to do with the default action defined fro the file:// protocol
[23:40] <bobbyd> it's screwed somehow, even though nautilus is working fine
[23:40] <bobbyd> when I click "home folder" I get this: Could not open location 'file:///home/rob' Failed to execute child process "audacious" (No such file or directory)
[23:41] <Tribaal> bobbyd: I'm afraid my knowledge ends here. Let me search through gconf a little bit, I'll get back to you if I find anyything
[23:41] <outbri> Tribaal: nope. I edited some file in there similar to /etc/network/interfaces and added my domain, I just can't remember which one I did.
[23:43] <Tribaal> outbri: And that let you log on to a WPA2 - TLS / TKIP network?
[23:44] <outbri> Tribaal: Yes, I also had to use ip route to set the correct ip that NetworkManager wasn't letting me set.
[23:45] <Ybeddyj> i'm using kubuntu intrepid, when i click on any of my other disk partitions nothing happens ... its as if i didnt click them....is there a package i'm missing that allows it to mount the partitions when i click on them...
[23:45] <outbri> Tribaal: But I'm afraid I am not going to be of too much help right now, as I can't remember.
[23:46] <Tribaal> outbri: nevermind, thanks anyway... I guess I'll have to switch back to Hardy for a while
[23:46] <Tribaal> :(
[23:46] <outbri> Sorry I couldn't help any more.
[23:48] <outbri> Tribaal: I added my namservers and domain to my /etc/resolv.conf file, and then I ran a command with ip route setting my ip and gateway. I don't remember the specifics with ip route.
[23:48] <Ybeddyj> pardon  me if i spammed i had closed the session earlier
[23:48] <Ybeddyj> i'm using kubuntu intrepid, when i click on any of my other disk partitions nothing happens ... its as if i didnt click them....is there a package i'm missing that allows it to mount the partitions when i click on them...
[23:48] <Tribaal> outbri: I just found #nm is the "official" IRC chan for NetworkManager related questions - I might have better luck there
[23:49] <Tribaal> thanks again
[23:49] <outbri> yep
[23:50] <bobbyd> Tribaal: ok, logged in as another user and it's fine
[23:50] <bobbyd> so it's something in my home directory
[23:52] <Tribaal> bobbyd: hum that means it might also be in gconf
[23:53] <Tribaal> bobbyd: if you don't know what I mean by gconf, try "gconf-editor" in a terminal - it's the GNOME equivalent of the registry in windows
[23:53] <Tribaal> (except it's built with XML files in you home directory instead)
[23:54] <Tribaal> there's a bunch of settings in there
[23:54] <bruce89> not quite a registry
[23:54] <bruce89> it doesn't randomly corrupt
[23:55] <Tribaal> bruce89: not quite, indeed.
[23:58] <Ktron> I'm trying to figure out what happened to the linux-kernel-devel package