[16:23] <Sidewinder1> Guess everyone is out enjoying this wonderful weather.


[00:22] <bazhang> the offtopic because others made me defense
[00:22] <bazhang> such fun
[13:11] <Pici> I wonder if anyone has complained about this yet: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/base-files/+bug/1701068
[13:12] <Fuchs> yes, seen it in non-ubuntu channels
[13:13] <Pici> Just saw it through HN
[13:13] <Pici> Thankfully it seems easy to disable
[13:16] <ikonia> it's pretty poor show
[13:16] <ikonia> I'm surprised it's not had more noise made about it, but quite thankful too
[13:17] <ikonia> I saw some "outrage" about it from Debian folk, a day or two ago
[13:19] <Pici> Yeah, I'm not too pleased about it either.
[13:31] <ikonia> "ubuntu for enterprise servers.....advertising netflix across your estate"
[13:32] <ikonia> doesn't really treat the customers with respect.
[13:32] <ikonia> you don't see Red Hat doing this sort of thing
[22:43] <bazhang> most of those silicon valley probably run kali


[10:58] <jtaylor> so what is ppc64el? whats the difference to the other arches?
[10:58] <jtaylor> have I missed a mail on -devel about it?
[11:02] <jtaylor> so its little endian, why is it named el not le? oO
[11:08] <rbasak> Debian uses el for whatever reason. armel, mips64el.
[11:08] <rbasak> I don't know what it means or the history around it.
[11:10] <Laney> I thought it was an endianness joke, but eb exists so maybe not
[12:27] <xnox> jtaylor: rbasak: Laney: i always thought it was a clever pun: little endian - le - 6C 65, would be stored in memory as 65 6C (little endian) and thus it's "el" most significant letter last ;-)
[12:27] <Laney> yeah
[12:28] <rbasak> Well, that's debatable :)
[12:29] <xnox> rbasak: if one doesn't know endianess a self-declared "le" appears as "el" value ;-)))) or rather your BigEndian machine will see it as such ;-)
[12:29] <rbasak> It's only gets reversed in memory because you did the initial conversion in big endian :)
[12:29] <xnox> rbasak: memory addresses are sequential ;-) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endianness
[12:30] <rbasak> Yeah sure, but you read 6C 65 out of memory, and convert it to an integer, and then to hex, and then print it here.
[12:30] <rbasak> The endianness comes into play when you convert to an integer.
[12:30] <rbasak> Nothing gets swapped.
[12:31] <rbasak> It's ASCII->integer when you have the endianness question. So saying that le is el in little endian doesn't really work.
[12:31] <rbasak> (or 2-byte -> 16 bit integer, if you like)
[12:36] <jtaylor> wgrant: so ppc64el is long double = 16 byte but 80 bit precision?
[12:37] <jtaylor> I'm trying to understand your numpy patch
[12:39] <wgrant> jtaylor: It's the same as ppc64, except the bytes within each double are flipped.
[12:42] <jtaylor> are you planing on forwarding it upstream?
[12:43] <jtaylor> also are there porterboxes available numpys test segfaults with python-dbg
[12:45] <wgrant> jtaylor: Modern qemu-system-ppc64 can do LE
[12:46] <wgrant> jtaylor: We don't have a pregenerated image for it, though.
[12:46] <jtaylor> qemu sucks for floating point
[12:46] <jtaylor> it doesn'T seem to respect ieee754
[12:47] <wgrant> Hm
[12:48] <wgrant> Anyway, we barely have buildds atm, no porter boxes yet. qemu *should* work fine.
[12:48] <wgrant> The primary archive isn't quite debootstrappable yet, but http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/bootstrap/ppc64el is.
[12:50] <jtaylor> I'll give it a try
[12:50] <jtaylor> if you have access to a machine, it would be grat if you could just give me a backtrace
[12:51] <wgrant> Let me see what I can do.
[12:51] <wgrant> Thanks for looking
[18:47] <glenford> sd


[09:35] <metiu> I just installed edubuntu on my daughter's laptop. Is there a nicer way of listing installed software other than searching through unity? It's her first PC and she doesn't know what to look for, probably she'd rather explore a menu
[09:36] <highvoltage> metiu: not sure if you can get a menu in unity, personally I would probably install the gnome flashback session, it's the alternative desktop environment in Edubuntu and it uses a more classical style menu that's easier to explore
[09:39] <highvoltage> metiu: if you search for 'flashback' in ubuntu software center you can select and install the package called gnome-session-flashback, and then log out and choose it from the login screen
[09:43] <ogra_> i think there is an indicator that brings a menu ...
[09:44] <ogra_> classicmenu-indicator ?
[09:45] <metiu> highvoltage: thank you, I chose unity since the laptop is a rather new one, but yeah I think I'll switch to flashback session, it's more than enough anyway
[09:45] <metiu> ogra_: I'll try the indicator to see if it can be the best of both worlds
[09:47]  * highvoltage tries it out too
[13:57] <stgraber> highvoltage: note that flashback is installed by default, you just have to choose it at login time
[14:44] <highvoltage> ah right, I forgot about that


[00:22] <sync0pate> is administering your own mail server as much hassle as it seems?
[00:22] <sync0pate> I only really need it for my own personal e-mail
[00:22] <sync0pate> and it's proving to be a pain trying to get anything working.
[00:23] <LinStatSDR> Sometimes, setting up very small services such as that is more of a hassle than just using gmail
[00:24] <sync0pate> I don't like gmail.
[00:24] <sync0pate> I want to use my own domain.
[00:24] <sync0pate> but it is seeming like such a hassle.
[00:25] <sync0pate> I don't understand why setting up a web server (or a million other types of server) is so easy
[00:25] <LinStatSDR> Do you have a static ip or you using dydns
[00:25] <sync0pate> static
[00:25] <LinStatSDR> That's good then.
[00:25] <sync0pate> and yet mail.. which is so ubiquitous
[00:25] <sync0pate> seems impossible
[00:25] <LinStatSDR> I can assure you it is possible. :D
[00:25] <sync0pate> I've just been trying it out on a temporary digitalocean vps at the moment
[00:28] <qman__> running a mail server is kind of a big deal compared to most basic services
[00:28] <qman__> but it's not impossible
[00:28] <LinStatSDR> Have you consulted the "youtube".
[00:29] <qman__> I followed the vmail tutorial linked in the server guide to set mine up, and I put up scrollout F1 in front of it for spam filtering
[00:29] <LinStatSDR> err, "the youtube" rather lol
[00:29] <qman__> make sure you set up your SPF records, and make sure you use a good spam filtering system
[00:30] <qman__> and you won't have too much trouble
[00:31] <qman__> unfortunately I haven't had much luck upgrading my mail server
[00:31] <qman__> it's still running lucid and a release upgrade breaks my mail config
[00:31] <qman__> so I'll probably have to set up a new one
[00:33] <LinStatSDR> :(
[00:34] <qman__> but that's why I have KVM and snapshots
[00:35] <sync0pate> consulted youtube?
[00:35] <sync0pate> for server things?
[00:36] <sync0pate> no, I've not.
[00:36] <sync0pate> I hate video tutorials of this kind of thing.
[00:36] <qman__> I would not consult youtube either
[00:36] <qman__> I would follow the server guide
[00:36] <sync0pate> the server guide?
[00:36] <qman__> yes
[00:37] <qman__> it's in the topic
[00:37] <sync0pate> Yeah.. I'll maybe start again with that tomorrow
[00:37] <sync0pate> give it one last shot
[00:38] <LinStatSDR> Give it more than that, otherwise you would have just wasted the time you've spent thus far.
[00:38] <sync0pate> so better to waste more?
[00:38] <sync0pate> got it.
[00:38] <sync0pate> lol
[00:38] <LinStatSDR> Better than giving up dude.
[00:39] <sync0pate> there are plenty of times when it's better to just give up.
[00:39] <sync0pate> I can't spend too long on it tomorrow
[00:40] <sync0pate> I have actual work to do too
[00:40] <LinStatSDR> Just poke at it every now and then when you have time :D
[00:41] <qman__> the configuration to make it function is not too difficult
[00:41] <qman__> the anti-spam is the hard part
[00:41] <sync0pate> spamassassin?
[00:41] <qman__> which is why I chose to stand up scrollout F1 in front of it
[00:42] <LinStatSDR> I vote exchange server in this case
[00:42]  * LinStatSDR giggles
[08:32] <lordievader> Good morning.
[12:37] <saladim> im getting always Permission denied for my sbuild. i dont seem to be able to get sbuild set up propper
[13:09] <MarkDenz> I got an abuse notification from my hoster (and some org) that a small server of mine answers SSDP requests and I should look that nobody abuses this. I don't have any in depth knowledge about SSDP. Any idea what I could do? Here some info: http://blog.sucuri.net/2014/09/quick-analysis-of-a-ddos-attack-using-ssdp.html
[13:23] <patdk-wk_> MarkDenz, why are you running upnp on a server?
[13:23] <MarkDenz> patdk-wk_: testing services with other VMs
[13:24] <MarkDenz> patdk-wk_: should make it only available internally I guess
[13:24] <patdk-wk_> what does upnp have to do with that?
[13:24] <MarkDenz> testing upnp discovery within the network
[16:20] <ac_slater_> hey guys. I have a lab of machines currently running 12.04 LTS server. Upon boot, /tmp fails to mount and I get a scary option to boot a single-user root shell without a password. This is awful. Any clue what provides this? BUSYBOX=Y in initramfs.conf ?
[16:24] <lordievader> ac_slater_: It's single user mode, you can also boot it by appending the 'single' kernel parameter.
[16:28] <ac_slater_> lordievader: right, I disable this via grub2
[16:29] <ac_slater_> but yes, it can still be done
[16:29] <ac_slater_> I'd just rather not have a prompt for it
[16:29] <lordievader> ac_slater_: A prompt for what?
[16:30] <ac_slater_> lordievader: when /tmp can be mounted... I get 'Press R for root shell' ... or something like that
[16:30] <ac_slater_> maybe, 'Press R for manual recovery'
[16:30] <lordievader> ac_slater_: Is it defined in /etc/fstab?
[16:31] <ac_slater_> yes
[16:31] <ac_slater_> I've fixed the actual issue (which is well documented) ... but I'd just like to disable any prompting for root anything
[16:33] <ac_slater_> whether that is fixing upstart, disabling busybox on boot ,etc
[16:35] <lordievader> ac_slater_: It is not busybox, but I don't know how to disable it. (Apart from setting a root pw, but that ain't Ubuntu policy)
[16:35] <ac_slater_> lordievader: I guess ill mess with /etc/init/rc-sysinit.conf and other files to see.
[16:37] <sudormrf> sorry about that
[16:39] <kevindf> Hello, I've set up a OpenVPN server on my Ubuntu 14.04 home server, I can succesfully connect to the server but if my firewall is enabled I cannot get internet access, If I disable my firewall everything works completely fine. I tried adding serveral iptables but none of them worked. Obviously it has something to do with the iptables. Anyone know what i'm doing wrong?
[16:39] <kevindf> I do have iptables-persistent installed
[16:40] <lordievader> kevindf: What what it is dropping.
[16:41] <kevindf> So basically if I connect to the VPN with firewall disabled, my ip changes and everything works fine, but with firewall enabled I don't get a network connection on the machine connected to the vpn
[16:41] <kevindf> basically*
[16:42] <lordievader> kevindf: Checkout what the firewall is dropping...
[16:43] <ac_slater_> I know this might not be appropriate, but I think I'm going to file a bug report for this. The user shouldnt be prompted for single-user mode shell in all cases. This should be configurable... and not by changing the mess that is /etc/init/*
[16:44] <sudormrf> there we go
[16:44] <kevindf> lordievader How can I check that? As i'm fairly new and experimenting with servers
[16:46] <lordievader> ac_slater_: I think it is by design, in this case it ain't a critical mount but suppose /lib would fail I'd like the option to fix the mess.
[16:47] <lordievader> kevindf: Let iptables log the dropped packets and see if it drops openvpn traffic.
[16:51] <ac_slater_> lordievader: it should log and tell you to chroot in and fix
[16:52] <ac_slater_> lordievader: but this isnt a perfect world. Kernel option `splash quiet` hides the prompts
[16:52] <lordievader> ac_slater_: Matter of opinion.
[16:52] <ac_slater_> and when would /lib ever fail? People put that on a seperate FS ?
[16:53] <lordievader> You can...
[16:53] <ac_slater_> I've never seen it
[16:53] <ac_slater_> but yea you're right
[18:03] <sync0pate> OK, so, I have postfix set up and a mailbox working, using Sentora (zpanel) on 14.04
[18:03] <sync0pate> and I want to get a catch-all e-mail working, but nothing seems to work
[18:03] <sync0pate> I'm getting "Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual mailbox table"
[18:04] <sync0pate> and I've googled that and followed about 5 different sets of instructions to fix it, with no joy.
[18:05] <sync0pate> anyone have any idea what I can try?
[18:18] <avid_fan> sync0pate: I'm not familiar with zpanel, but a quick Google search returned the following: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-setup-postfix-catch-all-email-accounts/
[18:18] <avid_fan> sync0pate: Seems pretty straightforward.
[18:19] <sync0pate> it does, doesn't it avid_fan ..
[18:29] <sync0pate> avid_fan, sorted it
[18:29] <teward> sarnold: if you're around, mind a PM?
[18:30] <sync0pate> following those instructions, but I had to use the entire e-mail instead of just the username
[18:30] <sync0pate> just in case anyone else has the same thing
[18:30] <sarnold> teward: sure
[18:30] <avid_fan> sync0pate: But that seems to work?
[18:31] <sync0pate> seems to
[18:31] <avid_fan> sync0pate: Cool.
[18:31] <sync0pate> with just the username it creates a mail loop (?!)
[18:31] <avid_fan> sync0pate: Good to know.
[18:32] <Pici> 70
[20:53] <Plizzo> Hi there! I recently had a RAID5 crash where two of my disks broke down on the same night, leaving me with a bit of corrupted data. I’ve ran badblocks on all of the disks, which returned nil, but I also have some smart tests, and I am wondering if you could help me interpret them to find the bad disks.
[20:53] <nezZario> Ok folks.. I'm really not all that skilled with ubuntu servers in specific.. I actually thought this was a debian server for a few minutes .. But anywho, something has a serious issue here with dependencies, ... I really have nothing to go on here
[20:53] <bekks> Plizzo: USe smartctl to run the long selftests.
[20:54] <nezZario> http://pastie.org/private/egdrtvg7i8ansa2ek9za <-- Apt will not get past this -- upgrade, update, anything merrily tells me this must be fixed first
[20:54] <Plizzo> bekks: I have, and I have the log files ready.
[20:54] <Plizzo> bekks: Two of them are showing errors, but I just want a second opinion
[20:54] <bekks> If they show errors, they are broken.
[20:54] <bekks> :)
[20:55] <Plizzo> bekks: Alright, but would you mind looking at them, just for the fun of it? :P
[20:55] <bekks> Just pastebin them then.
[20:55] <Plizzo> bekks: /dev/sda: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8808108/
[20:55] <nezZario> I see some mention about forcing installation of older packages but I really don't want to blindly start purging and (trying?) to install packages
[20:55] <Plizzo> bekks: /dev/sdc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8808123/
[20:55] <bekks> nezZario: Why do you want to do that?
[20:56] <Plizzo> bekks: /dev/sdd: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8808126/
[20:56] <Plizzo> bekks: /dev/sde: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8808128/
[20:56] <nezZario> bekks: that's the closest thing I can find to a "solution" via googling.. some are saying purge X packages, some say install some older packages via dpkg -i
[20:56] <bekks> Plizzo: sdc is dead, sdd is dead, sde is dead, too.
[20:57] <bekks> nezZario: Why are you trying that?
[20:57] <Plizzo> bekks: How would you see that, to me, it only seems that sda and sdd are broken
[20:58] <nezZario> I'm not, I just said that.  Although it does make a small amount of sense, from what I'm interpreting here, it's trying to install a new kernel image and a dependency is newer than what that package is expecting
[20:58] <bekks> Plizzo: Take a look at the "Seek_Error_Rate".
[20:58] <nezZario> As I said previously, I'm really lost otherwise, other than the fact that I can't use apt
[20:59] <Plizzo> bekks: Are those values bad, I’m not really good at judging this.
[20:59] <bekks> nezZario: WHY are yiu thinkting about that? Whats the _actual_ issue behind your questions?
[20:59] <bekks> Plizzo: They indicate a dead drive.
[20:59] <nezZario> bekks: see http://pastie.org/private/egdrtvg7i8ansa2ek9za
[20:59] <sarnold> nezZario: I suggest another apt-get update; it feels like your mirror might have been out of sync when you started
[21:00] <Plizzo> bekks: Alright. This is really hard, because I managed to start my corrupted raid, and the disks are still functioning.
[21:00] <bekks> Plizzo: And "Hardware_ECC_Recovered" with values of<PHONE_NUMBER> indicate thats its even more dead.
[21:01] <nezZario> apt-get update, apt-get -f install yields same error about linux-server dpeending on an older version of linux-image-server
[21:01] <Plizzo> bekks: And all those disks indicate so?
[21:02] <bekks> Plizzo: Even though the drives  are working now, they will gonna die soon. sdc is a bit more alive, the others are dead.
[21:05] <Plizzo> bekks: Alright, thanks for your feedback!
[21:05] <sarnold> nezZario: I -think- the linux-server package in that release is just a pointless metapackage; perhaps it can just be deleted?
[21:05] <bekks> Plizzo: You're welcome :)
[21:05] <sarnold> nezZario: .. dunno if it'll sort your actual issue, but check apt-cache show linux-server and see if it looks useless :)
[21:07] <nezZario> sarnold: that may of worked
[21:09] <sarnold> nezZario: cool; make sure you still have e.g. linux-image-generic  installed, so you will get kernel security updates when they are published
[21:16] <nezZario> yep, that looks like it cleaned it up
[21:16] <nezZario> thanks sarnold :)
[21:17] <sarnold> nezZario: nice


[00:14] <Ahmuck-Sr> kk, so it appears the window focus bug thingy is present in 10.04.x as well
[00:15] <Ahmuck-Sr> btw, in purging programs i've lost my lower panel with logout/etc
[00:16] <Ahmuck-Sr> don't know where to find it
[00:17] <Unit193> The panel with running programs/tray icons?
[00:17] <Unit193> Type: ls /usr/share/lxpanel/profile/
[00:17] <Ahmuck-Sr> on custom panels, is there a way to add icons to the application bar in such a way they are padded equally top/bottm left/right
[00:17] <Ahmuck-Sr> ls /usr/share/lxpanel/profile
[00:17] <Ahmuck-Sr> er, sorry
[00:18] <Ahmuck-Sr> lists default & Lubuntu
[00:19] <Unit193> lxpanel --profile Lubuntu <--- That what your looking for?
[00:20] <Ahmuck-Sr> There is already an instance of LXPanel.  Now to exit
[00:21] <Unit193> What exactly is wrong with it?
[00:21] <Ahmuck-Sr> it's not there
[00:21] <Ahmuck-Sr> need a screenshot?
[00:23] <Ahmuck-Sr> http://imagebin.org/154122
[00:25] <Unit193> ps -a |grep lxpanel
[00:26] <Unit193> ... upper case A
[00:28] <Ahmuck-Sr> i'm going to reboot
[00:29] <Unit193> That may help too...
[00:31] <Ahmuck-Sr> same thing
[00:32] <Unit193> To findout what profile it's using: ps -A a |grep lxpanel (What programs did you just install?)
[00:34] <Ahmuck-Sr>   976 ?        S      0:00 lxpanel --profile Lubuntu
[00:34] <Ahmuck-Sr>  1257 pts/1    S+     0:00 grep --color=auto lxpanel
[00:34] <Ahmuck-Sr> i installed libreoffice
[00:34] <Ahmuck-Sr> and scribus-ng
[00:34] <Ahmuck-Sr> but had scribus on here previously
[00:34] <Ahmuck-Sr> did some "purging" via aptitude
[00:34] <Ahmuck-Sr> sudo aptitude purge programx
[00:36] <Ahmuck-Sr> it's currently a unique experience
[00:36] <Unit193> Do you want stock panels? (What version are you using?)
[00:42] <Ahmuck-Sr> yes, a stock panel that is normally on the bottom
[00:42] <Ahmuck-Sr> 10.04.2
[00:46] <Unit193> mv ~/.config/lxpanel/Lubuntu ~/.config/lxpanel/Lubuntuuu Then logout and back in....
[00:49] <Unit193> There is a default that I think will auto copy (Or you could copy it to the correct location just to make sure)
[00:53] <Ahmuck-Sr> Unit193: how do i force logout?
[00:54] <Unit193> lubuntu-logout (I *think*)
[00:57] <Ahmuck-Sr> thx
[00:57] <Ahmuck-Sr> that did it
[00:58] <Unit193> Sweet! Everything good?
[00:58] <silverarrow> hi
[00:59] <silverarrow> is there any help for VLC here?
[00:59] <silverarrow> I have sound but no picture
[00:59] <silverarrow> gnome works
[00:59] <Unit193> silverarrow: What type of file? Do you have any extras?
[01:00] <silverarrow> I have installed all extras I know of, and the libdvd packages
[01:00] <silverarrow> avi
[01:01] <silverarrow> avi is file type?
[01:01] <silverarrow> I have downloaded tree films from isohunt with positive feedback, and vlc will not play
[01:04] <silverarrow> xvid, dvd rip
[01:04] <Unit193> Just to make sure. You have lubuntu-restricted-extras and lubuntu-restricted-addons?
[01:04] <silverarrow> yes
[01:04] <silverarrow> both
[01:05] <silverarrow> I could try and reload them
[01:07] <Unit193> I can play them, but I have medibuntu repos and some things from there...
[01:08] <silverarrow> I have too, some of them
[01:08] <silverarrow> hmm
[01:08] <silverarrow> are you in lubuntu now?
[01:08] <silverarrow> it will not mess up to download the  old medibuntu package?
[01:10] <Unit193> They have repos for 10.04, 10.10 and 11.04
[01:17] <silverarrow> I installed, but nothing happened
[01:26] <silverarrow> why is vlc acting up
[01:26] <silverarrow> !"#$½¥£@
[01:29] <silverarrow> hard to trouble shoot when you have no idea what is wrong
[01:29] <silverarrow> I seemingly have all restricted, plugins and extras
[01:48] <KM0201> guess he didn't wait for me to tell him there's a ton of probs w/ VLC right now.
[01:49] <Unit193> Works for me...
[01:51] <Ahmuck-Sr> same here.  i use vlc exclusively
[01:52] <Ahmuck-Sr> lightweight dia program?
[02:04] <KM0201> !bug 743323
[02:17] <poltak> KM0201: Just change the code from "public" to "private"
[02:23] <KM0201> huh?
[02:24] <KM0201> poltak: i can read it just fine
[02:24] <poltak> KM0201: don't you give that attitude to me, matey. I'm only helping you
[02:25] <KM0201> huh.
[02:25] <poltak>  I DON'T appreciate rudeness at all
[02:25] <KM0201> dude i don't think you understand english.. 1. i didn't give you attitude (although now, I am)... 2... I didn't need help, soemone was having probs w/ VLC before and described the bug, so i linked them to the bug.
[02:25] <KM0201> poltak: i thnk you better get a grasp on english before accusing someone of being "rude"
[02:26] <KM0201> you said it was changed from "public" to "private" and i mentined i can read it just fine, so it must not be to "private"
[02:26] <Unit193> bioterror: Not there? ^\
[02:26] <poltak> KM0201: how dare you! English is my first language!  I'm reporting this event and the log is here for all to see
[02:26] <KM0201> Unit193: lol, i'm honestly not sure what this screwballs problem is.
[02:27] <poltak> KM0201: I was only trying to HELP you... you kids are crazy
[02:27] <KM0201> bioterror: may be a douche, but at least he's a douche that makes sense, poltak isn't even making sense
[02:27]  * Unit193 ducks out!
[02:27] <KM0201> poltak: you're not getting it.. I DON"T NEED HELP
[02:27] <poltak> KM0201: It's done son. All done and dusted. Leave now and don't come back here
[02:27] <KM0201> whatever..
[02:29] <KM0201> Unit193: did you say vlc works fine for you?
[03:40] <KM0201> Unit193: what was that keyboar dshort cut to kill X?  it was something like ctrl alt pausebreak L.. it hink
[03:42] <Unit193> backspace
[03:51] <xet7> KM0201: ctrl alt backspace - if it is not disabled
[07:41] <poltak> anyone use 64bit lubuntu?
[07:51] <bioterror> poltak, seems like lots of people ;)
[07:51] <bioterror> my ratio for torrent was something like 200 when I stopped seeding
[07:51] <poltak> hot dayum, bioterror
[07:52] <poltak> you installed it and been using it already?
[07:52] <bioterror> nope, I'm not using it ;)
[07:52] <poltak> what's your excuse?
[07:52] <bioterror> I just did a good act
[07:52] <poltak> Ah, I see. How come you didn't use it though?
[07:52] <poltak> try it*
[07:52] <bioterror> it's a dark secret, I cant say it in a sunlight
[07:53] <poltak> Are you a vampire?
[07:54] <bioterror> http://imagemacros.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/vampires_used_to_suck_blood.jpg ;)
[07:54] <poltak> I feel sick.
[07:55] <bioterror> poltak, my 64bit computer runs Arch
[07:55] <poltak> The other night I dreamt that me and my mum where vampire hunters and we had to drive across the country to get away from this vampire, before we killed it with a giant hammer
[07:55] <poltak> Hey, same as me
[07:55] <bioterror> 64bit LXDE packages wasnt up to date when I was going to install it
[07:55] <bioterror> I had lots of problems
[07:56] <poltak> Fair enough. That's why I was asking. I've heard some similar things
[08:04] <bioterror> but that was around alpha 1 or alpha2
[08:04] <bioterror> cant remember
[08:23] <mr2web> I got a question regarding the chipset architecture when installing lubuntu, is it possible to get it to install a i486 architecture instead of a i586 architecture on a system that has a chipset that is a i586?
[08:23] <bioterror> ?
[08:25] <poltak> nup
[08:26] <bioterror> 10.04 supports i586
[08:26] <bioterror> for the 10.10 ubuntu dropped moved completely to i686
[08:26] <mr2web> sry m8, maybe I completely of base here, but as I have read online one will get better performance out of the chipset I have if the opsys is installed with a i486 architecture thatn i586. this is a quote of the online source: "While i586-pc-linux-gnu CHOST works fine on a Geode LX, i486-pc-linux-gnu should be a more performant choice right now due to the way Geode LX CPU pipeline and scheduling works. glibc i586 assembler optimized
[08:27] <bioterror> mr2web, if you want i486 packages, try Salix OS
[08:27] <bioterror> it's a fork of Zenwalk and that community is great
[08:27] <bioterror> it's based on slackware and apt-get is slapt-get
[08:27] <bioterror> they have Fluxbox, LXDE, XFCE versions
[08:28] <mr2web> thx, I'll have a look. Although I do like the lubuntu and would like to stay with that dist...
[08:28] <poltak> Yep, see ya later mr2web
[08:28] <mr2web> cheers
[08:28] <bioterror> mr2web, could you give me that url
[08:28] <bioterror> for that that
[08:28] <mr2web> sure...
[08:28] <mr2web> w8
[08:28] <mr2web> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Safe_Cflags/AMD#Geode_LX
[08:28] <bioterror> haha
[08:29] <bioterror> mr2web, I give you another: http://funroll-loops.info/
[08:29] <mr2web> I have upgraded my current lubuntu to 11.04 before I read that the i586 support had been dropped..
[08:30] <mr2web> it starts fine but xorg is behaving realy bad and takes loads of cpu time
[08:31] <mr2web> I was running 10.10 before... and that one didnt either support the i586 architecture though the performance wasn't to bad...
[08:31] <mr2web> I have now downloaded the 10.04 and will try that one i guess
[08:32] <bioterror> why not
[08:32] <bioterror> it is supported for the next... 4 years? :)
[08:32] <bioterror> or was it 3 years
[08:37] <mr2web> bioterror, u know I'm not after super speed at all just a smooth server with a GUI and my new secondhand "green" HW is really slow in operating though it should be quicker, not super sonic just not so laggy... ;-)
[08:39] <mr2web> I'm replacing my old Fedora 10 core machine using in average 80-120W, the new fit-pc slim uses only 6W witch is a difference for a 24/7 server
[09:21] <KM0201> where is .xinitrc stored?  ls doesn't turn it up... so i'm assumign its not there, if i was going to create it, where would it go?
[09:21] <bioterror> ~/
[09:23] <KM0201> ty
[09:28] <bioterror> did you get ir working?
[09:28] <bioterror> it
[09:28] <KM0201> i got .xinitrc created, and i added the line this says to put in it, but no, it didn't work.
[09:29] <KM0201> that doesn't have to be made executable does it?.. i wouldn't think so.
[09:30] <bioterror> startx or xinit uses .xinitrc
[09:30] <bioterror> no, rc files are never executables
[09:30] <bioterror> those are just configuration files
[09:31] <KM0201> ok
[09:31] <KM0201> maybe i'm missing something, the instructions i'm reading (command line)... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/DontZap
[09:32] <KM0201> the "enable immediately" command, works fine... but when i create .xinitrc and put that line in it, it does nothing, and the shortcut isn't saved after i restart
[09:32] <bioterror> what are you after now?
[09:32] <bioterror> you want to kill X with ctrl+alt+backspace?
[09:32] <KM0201> i can't stand alt prtsc k to kill x.. i've been using ctrl alt backspace forever, and i'm trying to get that working
[09:32] <KM0201> yes.
[09:32] <bioterror> hmmm
[09:33] <bioterror> sudo nano /etc/default/keyboard
[09:33] <bioterror> XKBOPTIONS="terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp"
[09:33] <bioterror> that could do the trick
[09:34] <KM0201> ok, lemme try that.
[09:35] <bioterror> KM0201, you might need to reboot to make it work
[09:37] <KM0201> that worked, thanks
[09:37] <bioterror> ;))
[09:38] <bioterror> horrible bs is that your wiki page
[09:39] <bioterror> "using HAL"
[09:39] <bioterror> gsus, hal havent been used for months
[09:40] <Unit193> !dontzap | bioterror
[09:41] <Unit193> factoid/wiki update time?
[09:41] <bioterror> it's in my faq actually
[09:41] <bioterror> been there for months ;)
[09:42] <bioterror> or should I rather say "our faq" ;)
[09:42] <Unit193> More you than anyone else! (Good job!)
[09:42] <bioterror> I had problems with keyboard layout and oh well
[09:44] <bioterror> wish I had time and will to edit it more
[14:53] <leszek> hi
[14:57] <stlsaint> leszek: hello
[17:37] <strictlysensi> Hi.should I get lubuntu studio or lubuntu if I want to make music?
[17:38] <strictlysensi> *ubuntu studio
[17:41] <KM0201> strictlysensi: ubuntu studio is just ubuntu (and in essence, Lubuntu) w/ a bunch of multimedia packages... so it really doesn't matter.
[17:46] <strictlysensi> K thx. Thought maybe studio performed better for certain things
[18:03] <modris> Hi, i'm new in linux and want try lubuntu on old laptop, for now i made install, but in first day  i got freeze. How to check problem? which logs? i already chech hdd and memory with livecd whithout problem.
[18:03] <Ahmuck-Sr> how old is the laptop?
[18:03] <modris> p3 933 mhz 383ram
[18:03] <modris> compaq evo n160
[18:04] <Ahmuck-Sr> where does it seee to "freeze" at?
[18:04] <modris> all what i want work, but after some time freeze
[18:04] <Ahmuck-Sr> s/seee/seem
[18:05] <modris> i don't chek it, alway i have with open chrome tabs, xterm ... excuse my bad english
[18:05] <modris> sometimes help alt+sys reisub, somethimes only power cord
[18:05] <Unit193> modris: Are you ok with using the terminal?
[18:06] <modris> i dont know very much commands and they sintax, but in general - yes
[18:06] <modris> from google get commands and then digg deeper
[18:08] <modris> if i don;t cache reason why freeze happen, with what you recomend me star search? in lubuntu i dont find /var/log/messages
[18:11] <Unit193> You can display /var/log/syslog
[18:14] <modris> ok, now im going throu that... i dont remeber clocks when freeze was there. just try search for some error records. and of course advance look in syslog when this happen again.
[18:15] <modris> thank for now... hope i can give some hints afters some minutes/hours
[18:17] <Unit193>  cat /var/log/syslog |grep error <--- will show you error msgs
[18:23] <modris> ok it happen again :-)
[18:24] <Unit193> Did you try? --> cat /var/log/syslog |grep error
[18:30] <Modris> ok, now i'm back. from windows machine - it has bigger screen and for now it is stable.
[18:31] <Modris> Yes i'm try cat grep error from syslog, and after 2min give respond to y
[18:34] <Modris> i got 3 types of errors, two from kernel and one form network manager
[18:34] <Modris> 1) kernel: est4-fs re-mounted, 0pts: errors=remount-ro,commit=0
[18:34] <Modris> 2) kernel: est4-fs re-mounted, 0pts: errors=remount-ro
[18:34] <Modris> 3) networkmanager: warn bluez error getting default adapter: the name org.bluez wa not provided by any .service files
[18:35] <Modris> and this three repeat every reboot, i dont know before or after it :-S
[18:37] <Ahmuck-Sr> is there an alternative to microsoft silverlight?
[18:41] <Wulong> HTML5
[18:43] <Ahmuck-Sr> beyond that.  it appears our local tv station streams in silverlight
[18:46] <Unit193> Ahmuck-Sr: moonlight doesn't have DRM
[18:46] <Ahmuck-Sr> there is moonlight for linux?
[18:46] <Unit193> !info moonlight
[18:47] <Ahmuck-Sr> nm
[18:47] <Ahmuck-Sr> i see
[18:47] <Unit193> It's there, I just hit the wrong name...
[18:48] <Ahmuck-Sr> http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight/download.aspx
[18:48] <Unit193> Do you know if they use DRM?
[18:48] <Ahmuck-Sr> nope
[18:48] <Ahmuck-Sr> don't know
[18:48] <Ahmuck-Sr> but about ready to find out
[18:49] <Unit193> netflix doesn't work with it
[18:49] <Ahmuck-Sr> \o/
[18:50] <Unit193> Sweet! It workith? Do you use chromium or FF?
[18:51] <Ahmuck-Sr> :( no workie, just buffering
[18:51] <Ahmuck-Sr> i use FF
[18:51] <Ahmuck-Sr> always
[18:51] <Ahmuck-Sr> if you like your privacy out there, then chromium is a good choice
[18:52] <Modris> ok, i'm back with my freeze problem,
[18:52] <Unit193> Modris: I would wait for someone like bioterror to show up...
[18:52] <Modris> from visual - this freeze may be connect with som vga problems... it look like it. because somethime on freeze i got scarry fonts and after some sec screen full with horizontal lines
[18:53] <Modris> bioterror is expert or somthing like that?
[18:55] <Unit193> bioterror is better than I am (So are some others) I just can't think of what to check....
[18:55] <Modris> ok, thank for support...
[18:56] <Unit193> dmesg |grep error <--- may tell you more
[18:57] <Modris> how to debug chrome, i think this can be source, because everytime i use chrome with more than 4 tabs and with flash players inside. flash i install by myself, maybe not very great
[18:58] <Modris> errors from dmesg give me again
[18:58] <Modris> kernel: est4-fs re-mounted, 0pts: errors=remount-ro,commit=0
[18:58] <Modris> kernel: est4-fs re-mounted, 0pts: errors=remount-ro,
[18:58] <Modris> it is only with error syntax inside dmesg
[19:04] <Ahmuck-Sr> required ms media packs
[19:14] <bioterror> evening
[19:14] <bioterror> quick pop-in
[19:15] <Unit193> bioterror: Take a look at the issue Modris is having?
[19:16] <Modris> what information from me You need? Do you see older (from today) messages?
[19:16] <bioterror> I checked
[19:16] <bioterror> oldp 3
[19:17] <Modris> oldp 2
[19:17] <Modris> oldp 3
[19:17] <Modris> what mean "oldp 3"?
[19:17] <bioterror> old p3
[19:18] <bioterror> you could start with acpi=off kernel parameters
[19:19] <Modris> i'm not sure how to do this. init 6, then after bios before ... i need do what?
[19:19] <bioterror> yeah in grub
[19:19] <Modris> grub config?
[19:20] <Modris> ok, i miss something... grub config i need do before restart or after bios?
[19:22] <Modris> hmm i make restart, after bios screen next i see lubuntu logo and after that user authentification window...
[19:22] <bioterror> http://chakra-project.org/bbs/viewtopic.php?id=3924
[19:22] <bioterror> check that
[19:23] <Modris> ok
[19:24] <bioterror> doesnt sound good
[19:24] <bioterror> I gotta go, bbl
[19:24] <Ahmuck-Sr> got a question, if the live cd works, why doesn't *buntus install with a configuration that works?
[19:27] <Ahmuck-Sr> i'de wondered myself if age wasn't the problem.  might try antix
[19:27] <Ahmuck-Sr> it's very light, will run on 64mb ram, etc.
[19:30] <Modris> ok, i will try antix (if i fail on lubuntu) ;-) but for now i try to find menu.lst
[19:31] <bioterror> grub.cfg
[19:31] <Modris> i may be boot/grub, but not for lubuntu ;-)
[19:31] <bioterror> legacy grub uses menu.lst
[19:31] <Unit193> If you don't see the menu on startup, hit shift
[19:31] <bioterror> grub2 uses grub.cfg
[19:31] <Modris> ok, it is hard level for me (legacy), ok, i try restart with shift
[19:31] <bioterror> bvut as that thread said, no luck with those two magic commands
[19:32] <bioterror> they did not try nomodeset
[19:32] <bioterror> disable kms
[19:32] <bioterror> that could be it
[19:33] <Modris> i made reboot, hit shift 2 time in sec but get bios scren, then lubuntu logo, then user authorization screen...
[19:33] <Modris> i try find grub.cfg and made thing througt this
[19:38] <bioterror> after bios left shift
[19:38] <bioterror> but ad after ro nomodeset
[19:38] <bioterror> add
[19:39] <Modris> i try left shift without success... now i'm inside grub.cfg,
[19:40] <Modris> looking at something like linux 2.6.38.-8.generic ---class ubuntu -- class gnu-linux ---class gnu --class ...
[19:40] <bioterror> vmlinuz blaablaaa
[19:41] <Modris> o dont understand syntax in this file :-(
[19:41] <Modris> yes vmlinuz
[19:41] <Modris> root  ..... ro quiet
[19:41] <Modris> splash vt.handoff=7
[19:42] <bioterror> add after quiet: nomodeset
[19:42] <Modris> initrd  /boot initrd.img-2.6.38.-8...
[19:42] <Modris> ok, understand
[19:43] <bioterror> im ircing on phone, rather annoying to paste example lines
[19:43] <bioterror> since this terminal doesnt support those :DDDD
[19:43] <Modris> hmm... freeze again and open was only terminal and leaf.... editor
[19:43] <bioterror> hmmm
[19:44] <bioterror> try to be faster next time :D
[19:44] <Modris> ok, give me minute i try boot and finish grub.cfg
[19:44] <Modris> nice suggestion
[19:44] <bioterror> compete with yourself!
[19:44] <Modris> opaa... i hold shift and get star menu
[19:44] <bioterror> if only you would get to grub
[19:45] <bioterror> good
[19:45] <bioterror> now edit grubs bootline
[19:45] <Modris> 1) ubuntu 2) ubuntu recover 3) memtest .. 4) bla
[19:45] <bioterror> edit first one
[19:45] <bioterror> i remember e is the key
[19:45] <Unit193> E is the key!
[19:46] <Modris> ok, i got it, now "quiet: nomodeset"
[19:46] <bioterror> hey
[19:46] <bioterror> bi :
[19:46] <bioterror> no :
[19:46] <bioterror> ro quiet nmodeset splash
[19:46] <bioterror> or how was it
[19:46] <Modris> ok, nmodeset or nomodeset?
[19:47] <bioterror> n o m o d e s e t
[19:47] <bioterror> small keyboard i have
[19:47] <Modris> i't ok, i have problems with english
[19:48] <Modris> ok,houston see after 3 minutes :-D
[19:48] <bioterror> so Modris
[19:48] <bioterror> do you watch eurovision song contests
[19:49] <Modris> in this yead only between other chanels, in advertisment
[19:49] <Modris> in this year only between other chanels, in advertisment
[19:50] <bioterror> haha
[19:50] <bioterror> thats not wrong
[19:50] <bioterror> is that evo now booting?
[19:50] <bioterror> i took my new coming desktop pc to my parents so that I can tweak it
[19:51] <Modris> 1) we dont get to final 2) and tv change show translator/comentator who can coment this contest for last ... n years
[19:51] <Modris> yes i log in...
[19:51] <Modris> and now is log waiting time :-)
[19:51] <bioterror> my face when I notice that my parents lcd display has only vga socket and i have no vga to dvi adapters
[19:51] <Modris> Q is this changes in boot procees permanent or this is only for this time?
[19:52] <bioterror> we can make it permanent
[19:52] <Modris> with grub.cfg rigth?
[19:52] <bioterror> nope
[19:53] <bioterror> with /etc/default/grub.conf or something
[19:53] <Modris> ok, i'm listenig or maybe go search in web...
[19:53] <bioterror> update-grub reads that file
[19:53] <Modris> ok, i try find
[19:53] <bioterror> and adds parameters from there to /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[19:54] <Modris> Q do Y recomend use this nomodeset for this pc for all time? or wait and see if freez don;t come again
[19:54] <bioterror> no freezing yet?
[19:54] <Modris> nop
[19:54] <bioterror> arnold schwarzenegger was mr. freeze in thay previous batman saga
[19:55] <Modris> you dont believe but my passw for this pc is astalavista with some modifications :-D
[19:56] <bioterror> looks like we got a working laptop?
[19:57] <Modris> i still waiting, because today in somethimes it work longet then 30min before freeze, sometimes freeze come after couple minutes
[19:57] <bioterror> hmmm
[19:57] <bioterror> surf something
[19:59] <Modris> Q: in /etc/default/grub i dont see any similar with boot option nomodeset. now im litle confuse
[20:00] <bioterror> Unit193, would you check splash quiet line for him
[20:00] <Modris> or this is only file where i can change boot time timout?
[20:01] <Unit193> Modris: You need to add nomodeset in this file
[20:01] <Modris> if this nomodeset is critical for this evo, then i want write it permanent in system, for now im not shore whitch file it wil be
[20:05] <Modris> Q ok, i found GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" is this correct line when i need write ..."quite nomodeset splash"?
[20:05] <Unit193> In what file?
[20:05] <bioterror> you can add it there as last
[20:06] <Modris> /etc/default/grub
[20:06] <Modris> and then update-grub
[20:10] <Modris> ok, it work - i can made change my default boot config. hope it can handle my freeze. Anyway from that moment no-freeze was disturb me, for no it is already some 20min and it looks great
[20:11] <bioterror> :)
[20:12] <Modris> one beer i already finish, one i want send to bioterror and unit193 and hope this troube was a history.
[20:12] <Unit193> bioterror did all the work :)
[20:13] <bioterror> hmm
[20:13] <bioterror> ive earned many beers in here :D
[20:13] <bioterror> maybe i should inter rail one day
[20:13] <Modris> from now i can use grep, i know it is starter lever and simlple command but it come from Unit193
[20:14] <bioterror> Modris, try to use less instead of more
[20:14] <Unit193> Modris: sudo updatedb && locate {filetofind} is great too
[20:15] <MrChrisDruif> Look where?
[20:15] <Modris> can Y say in other word "maybe i should inter rail one day" my english is weak
[20:15] <MrChrisDruif> bioterror; ?
[20:21] <b0ot_> Does lubuntu have something like the software manger gui in ubuntu where you can just click and add programs
[20:22] <bioterror> synaptic
[20:22] <b0ot_> where is synamptic
[20:22] <Modris> start - system tools - synaptic package manager
[20:23] <b0ot_> hmm not there on mine
[20:23] <Modris> sudo synaptic from terminal
[20:23] <Modris> "sudo synaptic" from terminal
[20:24] <MrChrisDruif> Modris; No!
[20:24] <MrChrisDruif> gksudo synaptic
[20:24] <MrChrisDruif> You want to start a graphical application, so you'd have to use gksudo
[20:24] <Modris> ok, what is difference, ok understand
[20:25] <b0ot_> nothing
[20:25] <bioterror> & after and it will be launched to background
[20:25] <MrChrisDruif> Modris; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#Graphical%20sudo
[20:25] <MrChrisDruif> A good read btw ;)
[20:26] <Unit193> MrChrisDruif: +1
[20:26] <Modris> ok, i go to read, but in first look, for me work sudo synaptic too... ok, close my spam i go and read link
[20:28] <MrChrisDruif> Modris; gksudo sets HOME=~root, and copies .Xauthority to a tmp directory. This prevents files in your home directory becoming owned by Root.
[20:29] <Modris> yes for now i read this, but ... i'm not sure that i understand this.
[20:29] <Modris> what is .xauthority
[20:31] <bioterror> Modris, been over 30mins now?
[20:31] <MrChrisDruif> I don't know, but what is said behind is the important part. It prevents files in your home dir becoming owned by root
[20:31] <Modris> ok, then - if i already start synaptic or other gui with sudo then i need go to my home and delete some files with root owner, is this correct?
[20:32] <MrChrisDruif> It's just safer to start graphical apps with gksudo, keep it to that :)
[20:33] <Modris> YES, it can work, nice. only i need read for what this nomodeset is
[20:33] <Modris> and about gksudo - understand, thank
[20:34] <Modris> but why boot dont find synaptic with mouse and graphic environmen?
[20:34] <Modris> but why b0ot_ dont find synaptic with mouse and graphic environmen?
[20:34] <Unit193> "ls -l |grep root" will show you what files are root owned
[20:35] <bioterror> Modris, kernel mode setting
[20:35] <bioterror> google that
[20:35] <Modris> ok, i do it tomorow, for today already big information ;)
[20:37] <Modris> to Unit193 i start synaptic with sudo, then with gksudo, then i run ls -l in my /home/modris and no-one file is for root...
[20:37] <Unit193> "ls -lR |grep root" does it for me...
[20:38] <Modris> ls -lR  was found nothing ls -latR found on
[20:38] <Modris> ls -lR  was found nothing ls -latR found one
[20:39] <Modris> ls -lR |grep root  was found nothing ls -latR |grep root  found one and that was directory
[20:39] <Unit193> Modris: The more you use it, the more likely you will have issues
[20:40] <Modris> ok, let it go.. just from no i try use gksudo
[20:40] <Modris> for gui
[20:41] <Unit193> Yeah... I just did it in my /home, and I guess I ran a few things wrong... :(
[20:43] <Modris> We all falling down ;-)
[20:44] <Modris> some year i watch film and there was this or similar sentece "we all fall down", i cant find it in imdb.com for now and dont remeber about what this movie was.
[20:44] <Modris> but this was great film for that day... bad that my memory is so short.
[20:45] <Modris> need search and watch it again.
[20:49] <Modris> i found it. true story about  Domino Harvey
[20:49] <Modris> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0421054/
[20:51] <Modris> ok, i finish my offtopic. thank for helping
[20:54] <Unit193> Modris: Sure!
[21:04] <Psilocybin_Elf> Is there any way to install LXDE on Xubuntu 8.10 even thou the repos are obsolete? Don't want to upgrade by box yet, but still want LXDE instead of XFCE.
[21:15] <Modris> ok, dont get freeze like before, for now ir try play with chrome http://www.radioswh.lv/pluslive_m.asx and after 10 sec (start advertisment) i got hang-up. ctrl+alt+backspace dont work, i can change alt+ctrl + 1 to other tty and made reisub with success.
[21:19] <Modris> AND... (but possible it is from beer) i can;t log in. it is started when in hang-up (write some minutes before) when i try log on in other tty
[21:20] <Modris> maybe this is enaught for tonight ;-)
[21:22] <bioterror> Psilocybin_Elf, nope
[21:24] <Modris> i dont cache
[21:24] <Modris> and my password was changed, why...
[21:25] <Modris> for now i dont believe it, and hope tomorow all this was just a one beer :-O drinking people problem
[21:26] <bioterror> Psilocybin_Elf, maybe you should slowly come to this decade
[21:28] <Modris> my language dont allow me what is psilocybin_elf, possible i dont newer cache that
[21:28] <Modris> my language dont allow me understand what is psilocybin_elf, possible i dont newer cache that
[21:29] <Unit193> It would depend on his specs
[21:33] <Modris> i could'n get in my lubuntu, but ask Q about other problem. in what direction looking for solution that when i try open  http://www.radioswh.lv/pluslive_m.asx (this ir link for online radio)  hang-up my graphical lubuntu? this is chrome or some plugin dependecies? or maybe somethin else
[21:51] <Modris> i change my password with recovery mode - i supprise this mechanism, it so simple in lubuntu, It is easer than with windows (where need some other boot media) ... scarry. From now i start thinking about boot password in bios, for laptop it can help if dont just lose it forewer.
[21:57] <Modris> Q how to solve  chrome: "the following plug-in has crashed: windows media player plug-in"? link with solution would be ok.
[22:00] <Unit193> Modris: Re: Password. net user administrator {PASSWORD} in windows... And IIRC, you can only change the pwd via recovery if you login
[22:02] <Modris> to Unit193 - i think you miss me. I change OS user password throug recovery mode http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword not irc
[22:04] <Unit193> Modris: I understand, I'm just saying, didn't you have to login to the recovery console?
[22:07] <Modris> hmm.. 1) i hang-up computer with chrome chrash, 2) after ALT+CTRL+1 i change ... dont know how it name 3) cant get authorize myself 4) alt+sys+reisub 5) after reboot can;t login  shock, big shock. 6) search net for password recover, find http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword and did it
[22:09] <Modris> now i'm back in normal  and try find solution 1) why my chrome chrash on http://www.radioswh.lv/pluslive_m.asx 2) how it happen that my password changed from chrash (for now it not very importat, only strange)
[22:12] <Modris> morning smarter than evening... good night
[22:14] <Unit193> Good night?
[22:22] <adam61> hi, i'm using these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TASCAM_US-122  to help me set up my tascam us122; it worked for ubuntu 11.04, but now i'm trying to set it up for Lubuntu, and it is stuck at step 6 because there is no usb folder in /proc/bus/. does anyone know how i could fix this?
[22:24] <adam61> hi, i'm using these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TASCAM_US-122  to help me set up my tascam us122; it worked for ubuntu 11.04, but now i'm trying to set it up for Lubuntu, and it is stuck at step 6 because there is no usb folder in /proc/bus/. does anyone know how i could fix this?
[22:25] <Unit193> adam61: I don't happen to know. I'll look into it and you might also want to wait for someone too
[22:26] <adam61> Unit193: ok that'd be great, thanks. i've been trying to get an answer for a long time on #ubuntu
[22:26] <Unit193> adam61: Did you check /dev/bus/usb?
[22:29] <adam61> Unit193: not yet, but that sounds like a good idea, i'll try it out, thanks. do you know how to access this channel from Lubuntu? it wasn't there when i checked
[22:30] <Unit193> adam61: Xchat
[22:31] <adam61> Unit193: ya, that's what i tried, but there was no one in the room and instead of around 1700 ppl in #ubuntu there was only 8 people
[22:31] <adam61> i think i have to download a package first or something. i'll just ask the ppl on the debian channel when i get there. k i'll do that then be back shortly
[22:31] <Unit193> adam61: You have to be in Freenode!
[22:32] <adam61> Unit193: ah ok, how do i do that if it's logging me into debian? i presume there'll be an option to switch?
[22:33] <Unit193> Let me check (I don't use X-Chat)
[22:33] <adam61> k cool thanks
[22:33] <Unit193> When you first open it, it should give you a server/network list
[22:34] <adam61> ok that sounds about right, i've only tried it once so far, i'll give it another try. thanks!
[22:50] <adam61> anyone know how to get tascam us122 recognized? i'm following these instructions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TASCAM_US-122  but it can't find a folder usb in /proc/bus/. i tried /dev/bus/ and /sys/bus/ but those didn't work
[22:54] <Unit193> Did you try /dev/bus/usb/002/003 ?
[22:54] <adam61> LAcan, are you around? you've helped me out before
[22:54] <adam61> Unit193, ya thanks i just tried that, no luck
[22:56] <Unit193> Can you ls /dev/bus ? (or ls /dev/bus -R )
[22:56] <adam61> k just a sec
[22:58] <adam61> Unit193, here's the output: http://pastebin.com/ZNPBbs2b
[22:59] <Unit193> adam61: Thanks! now can you pastebin lsusb?
[23:00] <adam61> k: http://pastebin.com/8wVtqrjX
[23:01] <adam61> it's giving me a new error now: "EOF without EOF record!" do you know what that means?
[23:01] <Unit193> /dev/bus/usb/002/006 is the device
[23:02] <adam61> ya i know about that
[23:03] <adam61> do you know what i should be putting for step 6 here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TASCAM_US-122
[23:03] <adam61> i have this: sudo fxload -s /usr/share/alsa/firmware -I /usr/share/alsa/firmware/usx2yloader/us122fw.ihx -D /dev/bus/usb/002/006
[23:04] <Unit193> Where is ld2-ezusb.hex?
[23:06] <adam61> it's here i think: /home/adam/alsa-firmware-1.0.23/usx2yloader (it's actually tascam_loader.ihx, the equivalent of ld2-ezusb.hex)
[23:07] <Unit193> AH!
[23:08] <Unit193> http://paste.ubuntu.com/610845/
[23:11] <MrChrisDruif> Failer help to the rescue, what is going on? :)
[23:12] <Unit193> He is trying to install https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TASCAM_US-122 (on /dev/bus/usb/002/006 . http://paste.ubuntu.com/610845/ <--- look right??)
[23:14] <adam61> Unit193, i replaced it with sudo fxload -s /home/adam/alsa-firmware-1.0.23/usx2yloader -I /usr/share/alsa/firmware/usx2yloader/us122fw.ihx -D /dev/bus/usb/002/006... and it said no such file or directory
[23:15] <adam61> it seems file manager and lsusb are giving conflicting information if i'm understanding it right. lsusb says it's on 002/006, but file manager shows the 006 file only in dev/bus/usb/001 not 002
[23:19] <Unit193> The output of ls says it's there... Do you know where the .hex file is? You need to point to it...
[23:19] <MrChrisDruif> adam61; Did follow all the steps from the help.ubuntu.com page?
[23:20] <Unit193> Is it here?: /home/adam/alsa-firmware-1.0.23/usx2yloader/ld2-ezusb.hex
[23:25] <adam61> Unit193: MrChrisDruif: got it!!!!!!!! thanks so much for your help!!!
[23:26] <Unit193> adam61: Sure, what fixed it?
[23:26] <MrChrisDruif> adam61; what was the problem?
[23:26] <adam61> i think when i first got the EOF error message, i assumed it hadn't worked, but it had. i tested out sudo usx2yloader, and it worked!
[23:27] <adam61> MrChrisDruif: not sure exactly what the problem was, i think it was just trying to load the wrong file or something
[23:27] <MrChrisDruif> Alright :)
[23:28] <adam61> Unit193, thanks again very much for all your help!
[23:28] <adam61> thanks MrChris
[23:28] <adam61> ttyl
[23:28] <MrChrisDruif> Your welcome :)
[23:28] <Unit193> Have a great day!
[23:28] <Unit193> ...
[23:29] <MrChrisDruif> I'll have a good night if you don't mind ;)
[23:29] <Unit193> See ya!
[23:30] <MrChrisDruif> Sleep well...in about 6 hours ;)


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[09:26] <flexiondotorg> wxl, I will try for alpha 1. But I'm travelling over the holiday so will be tricky.
[09:27] <wxl> flexiondotorg: then it looks like it's up to me and i'm up to my neck with things to do. i might say we just skip a1 altogether.
[09:28] <flexiondotorg> wxl, OK
[09:28] <flexiondotorg> The timing is terrible.
[09:28] <wxl> i know
[09:28] <wxl> it is what it is
[09:28] <flexiondotorg> wxl, You've seen the Techboard Announcement about PowerPC?
[09:28] <wxl> yes
[09:28] <wxl> i'm mostly relieved, tbh
[09:28] <flexiondotorg> I never did get time to write up our intentions.
[09:29] <flexiondotorg> But I did tell _slangasek that we were both agreed on dropping PowerPC.
[09:30] <flexiondotorg> I'm getting a bit of blow back from the community. Some from people who don't know what PowerPC is, read "32-bit" and assumed that i386 is going away.
[09:30] <flexiondotorg> But I'm kind of relieved too.
[09:30] <wxl> hah yep
[09:30] <wxl> that kind of happened with us too
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[20:11] <stgraber> FYI, going to rush a no change rebuild SRU of LXD to yakkety to pick up the new golang-go-lxc... Forgot that the shlibs magic means that it's now uninstallable.
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[02:46] <ish_> Hi all, Quick question I installed ubuntu-desktop on my ubuntu 12.04 LTS server. How do I access the GUI mode?
[09:10] <cwayne> 'ello
[09:10] <cwayne> anyone here awesome at making icons for unity lenses?
[11:42] <laurent_> Hello just connecting to have a simple method to just get rid of unity and get back a good interface after an upgrade to ubuntu 12.04. Is there an easy way somewhere ?
[19:16] <Sam-L> Hello, I'm having a problem with my keyboard. Ubuntu only appears to be detecting two of the keys as being pressed. Does anybody have a moment to help me with this?
[19:17] <AlanBell> Sam-L: caps lock?
[19:17] <AlanBell> hardware issue?
[19:17] <AlanBell> you might find #ubuntu is a more general purpose support area
[19:17] <Sam-L> The keys are backspace and "menu"
[19:17] <Sam-L> well I asked in there and nobody has even acknowleged the question
[19:18] <Sam-L> The keyboard also works fine under XP
[19:18] <AlanBell> yeah, people tend to leave questions thye have no clue about :)
[19:18] <Sam-L> Excellent
[19:18] <Sam-L> Looks like I'm about proper fucked then
[19:19] <Sam-L> Thanks for the heads up
[19:19] <AlanBell> what is a menu key?
[19:19] <Sam-L> A custom key, I've seen it on a few keyboards, right hand side, next to CTL and ALT or windows key
[19:20] <AlanBell> oh right, the context menu thing
[19:20] <Sam-L> yah
[19:20] <AlanBell> is this a fairly standard keyboard?
[19:20] <Sam-L> I think so. It was marketed as a "gaming" keyboard, but really it's just a cheap USB keyboard with the frills you know
[19:21] <Sam-L> a Rosewill
[19:23] <Sam-L> I've been looking and poking around at this thing most of the day
[19:26] <AlanBell> usb keyboard presumably
[19:26] <Sam-L> yes
[19:28] <Sam-L> i ran /lib/udev/keymap -i input/event2 (from findkeyboards)
[19:28] <Sam-L> and it only gives a scan code for the two keys
[19:28] <Sam-L> it's not even detecting the input from other keys
[19:30] <Sam-L> Which is a bit ridiculous seeing as the BIOS and GRUB have no problem at all
[19:32] <AlanBell> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=144132 seems you are not the only one
[19:32] <Sam-L> yup
[19:32] <Sam-L> to a fucking t
[19:33] <AlanBell> !language
[19:33] <Sam-L> that is what i get for thinking ill get a nice keyboard for a reasonible price
[19:33] <AlanBell> yeah, fraid so
[19:33] <Sam-L> welp, i suppose ill be buying a new one then
[19:33] <AlanBell> support is probably going to happen at some point
[19:33] <Sam-L> im not gonna count on that
[19:33] <Sam-L> :/
[19:34] <Sam-L> i cant type with the onscreen keyboard
[19:34] <AlanBell> I am not sure what the right place to ask about it is
[19:34] <Sam-L> for the rst of my life
[19:34] <Sam-L> lol
[19:34] <Sam-L> i dunno either
[19:34] <AlanBell> maybe #ubuntu-kernel
[19:34] <Sam-L> i guess i could try
[19:34] <Sam-L> see what they say
[19:34]  * AlanBell wrote some of the themes for onboard
[19:35] <Sam-L> er?
[19:35] <AlanBell> the on screen keyboard
[19:35] <Sam-L> oh
[19:35] <Sam-L> ya
[19:35] <Sam-L> cool
[19:35] <AlanBell> I did the ubuntu theme, and typist and model-m (well some of model-m)
[19:36] <AlanBell> then the main developer got all creative with the pressing keys and shading :)
[19:36] <Sam-L> function then form or something
[19:37] <AlanBell> yeah, it is more of a "real keyboard on the screen" than an on-screen keyboard that you get on a tablet or phone
[19:38] <Sam-L> heh
[19:38] <Sam-L> i wouldnt use it if i were disabled but
[19:38] <Sam-L> it fills in for not having a working kb
[19:38] <Sam-L> in the most painful of ways
[19:40] <Sam-L> I'm not getting so much as a blank face in #kernel
[19:40] <AlanBell> well you probably won't this week, it is the Ubuntu developer summit
[19:40] <AlanBell> and then you need to hang around, people are in various timezones
[19:40] <Sam-L> yah
[19:41] <Sam-L> huge pita lol
[19:41] <AlanBell> they are all in Denmark at the moment
[19:41] <Sam-L> i feel like this is gonna be unresolvable at this point
[19:41] <Sam-L> otherwise and answer would be out there and I wouldn't be here
[19:41] <AlanBell> and probably at a bar in Denmark to be more specific
[19:41] <Sam-L> welp
[19:41] <Sam-L> thanks for your time


[12:43] <Satoris> The end to end tester now does gesture magnitude inspection. That makes it actually usable.