[13:10] <almoxarife> atvr: put it on the end of the line
[13:10] <maxagaz> lalagirl: but still no power, the cd doesn't go inside the driver
[13:10] <lalagirl> maxagaz can you repeat that, i didn't get the message if you sent any
[13:10] <atvr> Seveas: i cant get into ubuntu, im stuck in the grub2
[13:10] <lalagirl> maxagaz what version of ubuntu are you using currently?
[13:10] <Seveas> atvr, do you see grub's menu?
[13:10] <maxagaz> lalagirl: 11.10
[13:11] <atvr> almoxarife: do i have to put a space between the 7 and the nomodeset
[13:11] <bullgard4> Seveas: I have pressed the button »Browse all local and remote disks and folders accessible from this computer." Nautilus changed the »Location:« display content to »smb://nas.server« but again lists the 5 directories of this device without Size, Data Modified and Owner data.
[13:11] <atvr> Seveas: yes i am, and im a the command line i have to edit
[13:11] <almoxarife> atvr: I would
[13:11] <atvr> Seveas: but i just dont know what to do
[13:11] <Seveas> atvr, ah ok. Then yes, at the end with a space after 7
[13:11] <atvr> ok im trying that
[13:12] <Seveas> bullgard4, try opening one of those folders. Do the details of files within them appear?
[13:13] <bullgard4> Seveas: Yes, they do.
[13:13]  * lalagirl maxagaz okay let me look this up
[13:13] <lalagirl> maxagaz let me look this up
[13:13] <bullgard4> Seveas: But the owner is not displayed.
[13:13] <lalagirl> what just happened? it was a message?
[13:14] <atvr> Seveas: its not working, now i am stuck at a black screen with white text and the last line says * cheking battery state...
[13:14] <maxagaz> lalagirl: okay
[13:14] <bullgard4> Seveas: The owner is displayed as »unknown«.
[13:14] <Seveas> bullgard4, that's because samba shares have no concept of 'owner'
[13:15] <Seveas> atvr, then 'nomodeset' wasn't enough
[13:15] <bullgard4> Seveas: Thank you for explaining.
[13:15] <atvr> Seveas: so what should i put
[13:15] <atvr> Seveas: my video card is a amd radeon
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> Seveas  is that because windows has no owner concept?
[13:16] <Seveas> MonkeyDust, it does. but afaik the smb/cifs protocol does not.
[13:16] <Seveas> and fat32 also doesn't
[13:17] <atvr> Seveas: do you think you can help me :) this is really anoying since ive pass all the night tryind to make it work
[13:17] <bullgard4> MonkeyDust: I can ping the electronic device. But '~$ ssh <IP_ADDRESS>; ssh: connect to host <IP_ADDRESS> port 22: Connection refused'. What should I do?
[13:17] <andyn> windows has acl lists. dunno how those are mapped to smb perms
[13:18] <lalagirl> maxagaz i'm sorry, i don't know what's wrong… are you sure your superdrive isn't broken?
[13:18] <akira_> Hello.
[13:18] <rtr-> hi, i want to see all messages while booting, so i changed grub boot parameters to nosplash noquiet, but after that it shows another ubuntu screen (the one with the loading dots under ubuntu) which i have exit using escape. what is this? how is this screen called?
[13:18] <lalagirl> akira_ hi
[13:18] <Seveas> atvr, I don't think I can. Haven't worked with radeon cards for years.
[13:18] <atvr> okay
[13:18] <akira_> Hi. lalagirl.
[13:18] <maxagaz> lalagirl: it works fine on a macbook
[13:19] <Seveas> rtr-, that's probably plymouth.
[13:19] <almoxarife> wince-pim?
[13:19] <rtr-> thanks Seveas
[13:19] <atvr> almoxarife: do you think you could help me please, the nomodeset dosnt work my video card is a amd radeon ive pass all the night triyng to make it work
[13:19] <MonkeyDust> bullgard4  it seems to be a port 22 issue, it's for ssh
[13:20] <atvr> does anyone know how to edit grub2 to make a amd radeon video card work
[13:21] <n3rV3> atvr have you tried booting into the failsafe mode?
[13:21] <bullgard4> MonkeyDust: How can I put your message to good use?
[13:21] <lalagirl> maxagaz i'm not sure, sorry… i tried searching on the internet …. couldn't really find a problem with superdrive
[13:22] <atvr> n3rV3: no and i dont know how to do it, i am new to ubuntu
[13:22] <bullgard4> MonkeyDust: Can I use lsof -i to further analyze the problem?
[13:22] <MonkeyDust> bullgard4  i guess you need to install openssh-server and/or openssh-client
[13:22] <atvr> n3rV3: can you explan me how to
[13:23] <atvr> n3rV3: is this the same as recovery mode
[13:23] <n3rV3> atvr, yes it is
[13:24] <atvr> n3rV3: i am now at the recovery menu as those option, resume, fsck, remount and root
[13:25] <atvr> n3rV3: what is the option i have to choose
[13:25] <bullgard4> MonkeyDust: On my Ubuntu computer the packages openssh-client and openssh-server are installed and have been functional in the past.
[13:26] <n3rV3> atvr, don't remember exactly but there should be an option to boot into failsafe mode
[13:27] <atvr> n3rV3: i dont see that, ive pressed the resume option i am now at a terminal
[13:28] <lalagirl> maxagaz are you still there?
[13:28] <maxagaz> lalagirl: yes
[13:28] <lalagirl> maxagaz try updating your system
[13:28] <paul_> multitouch hp 2470p - pen ok - fingers doesn"t work any suggestions
[13:28] <maxagaz> lalagirl: it's upgraded already
[13:28] <oCean> bullgard4: from the error message it seems the ssh-server is not running on the remote system
[13:28] <lalagirl> maxagaz update it, not upgrade it
[13:28] <n3rV3> atvr, try running: startx
[13:29] <almoxarife> atvr: when you are ready to burn a cd with the iso we discussed then I can help
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> bullgard4  next thing on my mind: delete existing ssh-keys in ~/.ssh/known_hosts
[13:30] <bullgard4> MonkeyDust: I don't think that your advice will help with the present problem.
[13:30] <atvr> almoxarife: i have installed the way you said, i have burn the cd wich was not the same setup as the usb one, and now the installation has finish and it reboot, but the screen just not work
[13:30] <atvr> n3rV3: it dosent work
[13:31] <atvr> n3rV3: the last line says xinit: server error
[13:31] <lalagirl> maxagaz try opening terminal and do the foollowing "sudo apt-get update"
[13:31] <maxagaz> lalagirl: what do you mean ?
[13:31] <lalagirl> maxagaz look at message above
[13:32] <maxagaz> lalagirl: it's done already
[13:32] <n3rV3> atvr, give me some time i will try out the steps on my machine
[13:32] <atvr> n3rV3: okay thanks you very much :)
[13:32] <lalagirl> maxagaz okay now restart your comp with the drive plugged in and see if it works
[13:32] <maxagaz> lalagirl: I just did it too
[13:32] <sl1ck> How do I enable sound mixer (controls) in LXDE?
[13:33] <maxagaz> lalagirl: I thinking that it could come from the eeePC's usb port not delivering enough power, don't you think so ?
[13:33] <lalagirl> maxagaz oh i thought you were using a mac computer… lol maybe that's the problem
[13:34] <atvr> almoxarife: the installation whent perfecly but after i reboot, the screen dosnt work
[13:34] <lalagirl> maxagaz does it show a usb port with the lightening symbol (representing power)
[13:36] <sam_bristol> can I buy a hardware box that runs firewall/ antivirus from a reputable UK seller with support 'off the shelf' (not custom built)
[13:36] <maxagaz> lalagirl: it seems there's no LED on the superdrive
[13:36] <n3rV3> atvr, when you select ubuntu recovery mode on the next screen there is an option failsafex you need to select that
[13:36] <sam_bristol> running ubuntu obvs
[13:36] <n3rV3> atvr, this will take you to gui but then you will have to install drivers for you card
[13:36] <bullgard4> oCean: I am afraid that you are right. I found a list of installed programs. Among them is a FTP server but no SSH server listed.
[13:36] <BioNetbook_> hello
[13:37] <atvr> n3rV3: i dont see that option, maybe its fsck
[13:37] <BioNetbook_> i have an ircbot running on my homeserver (10.04)
[13:37] <lalagirl> maxagaz there is no led on the superdrive
[13:37] <BioNetbook_> i cannot ctcp with it because i keep getting connection refused
[13:37] <atvr> the description is check all file systems
[13:37] <oCean> bullgard4: aha. If you install "nmap" on your ubuntu machine, you can also use that to check which ports are open/listening on a remote machine/device (just a tip)
[13:37] <BioNetbook_> is there something other than iptables that could be blocking it?
[13:37] <n3rV3> atvr, its there on my system, which version of ubuntu are you using
[13:37] <BioNetbook_> (my router is port forwarded)
[13:37] <atvr> n3rV3: 11.10
[13:38] <Darael> So I've got a machine here which has two DVD drives, but neither of them appear to work and I don't have a blank CD anyway.  Problem is, my bootable USB stick doesn't work:  I can select it first in BIOS, or from the one-time boot menu, but I just get a screen with the text "Boot error", and if I hit enter it loads from the first hard disk.  Any ideas?
[13:41] <bullgard4> oCean: '~$ : nmap -sP <IP_ADDRESS>/24' does list my electronic device "nas-server", its IP address and that it is up. How should I modify this command in order to check which ports are open/listening on the remote device?
[13:41] <mazda01> morning
[13:42] <oCean> bullgard4: without any options, my nmap command shows this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/788830/
[13:42] <Navin> hi, Need a bit of help....with my ubuntu installation
[13:42] <n3rV3> atvr, its there on my system 11.04 dunno why its missing on your system
[13:43] <atvr> n3rV3: i just googleiit to see and i think there is no failsafex on 11.10
[13:43] <Navin> I have a gfx card with dvi and vga output,
[13:43] <Navin> the ubuntu boots and then turns my monitor on VGA off
[13:43] <Navin> and I dont habve a dvi monitor to fix it
[13:43] <anddam> hello
[13:44] <Navin> any tips on how to get around this ?
[13:44] <n3rV3> atvr, yes found the links it seems they removed it from 11.10
[13:45] <paul_> multitouch hp 2470p - pen ok - fingers doesn"t work any suggestions
[13:45] <atvr> n3rV3: yup
[13:45] <bullgard4> oCean: '~$ : nmap nas-server' does not list port 22 but the ftp port 21 for tcp open. --  If I remember well the command nmap can determine the operating system of the remote electronic device. Is that right?
[13:46] <Navin> any one can help with how can I boot in text mode from the grub menu so that I can reconfigure the Xorg file ?
[13:46] <nick30> bullgard4: it can guess
[13:46] <anddam> how can I give an user permissions to only install software from Ubuntu Software Center?
[13:47] <bullgard4> nick30: What options should I append to nmap in order to do the estimation?
[13:47] <Navin> anddam: Do you want to limit the sources of installation ?
[13:47] <anddam> nope
[13:47] <oCean> bullgard4: sudo nmap -O host
[13:47] <Navin> anddam: then ?
[13:48] <atvr> n3rV3: does that look safe to do http://askubuntu.com/questions/68245/ubuntu-hits-a-black-screen-after-boot
[13:48] <anddam> Navin: I'd like to just let the user install software without providing him superuser permissions to do other things
[13:48] <oCean> bullgard4: anyway, usually those NAS devices have admin interfaces to dis/enable services such as ssh server
[13:49] <anddam> Navin: this is actually a nine years old boy for whom I created a regular user on edubuntu
[13:49] <n3rV3> atvr, well these steps are just to delete the files and create links for them
[13:50] <Navin> anddam: hmm.. I would not know a way directly to do that.
[13:50] <n3rV3> atvr, but wait don't run them yet
[13:50] <anddam> Navin: I thought something like a sudoers rule
[13:50] <atvr> n3rV3: okay
[13:51] <bullgard4> oCean: I have looked through the directories and through the manual but have not yet found menting SSH (but found a list of services offered).
[13:51] <bullgard4> s/menting/mentioning/
[13:51] <realhaxor> hello i have a problem with my ubuntu
[13:52] <realhaxor> can you help me please?
[13:52] <nick30> what is your problem?
[13:52] <realhaxor> i've uninstalled GNOME 3 in my ubuntu 11.04
[13:52] <realhaxor> bring back my unity
[13:52] <realhaxor> but i can't install simple-ccsm
[13:53] <realhaxor> need pastebin?
[13:53] <realhaxor> it seems they have broken package..
[13:53] <atvr> i am just fucking tired of that shit
[13:53] <oCean> atvr: control your language here, please
[13:53] <atvr> sorry
[13:54] <realhaxor> anyone can help?
[13:54] <n3rV3> atvr, i've made the changes try this link: http://paste.ubuntu.com/788835/
[13:54] <atvr> no one seem to have the solution ......
[13:54] <anddam> Navin: ah maybe http://askubuntu.com/questions/3/how-can-i-set-the-software-center-to-install-software-for-non-root-users
[13:54] <anddam> there's a sudoers hint too
[13:54] <realhaxor> yep
[13:54] <realhaxor> maybe
[13:55] <bazhang> realhaxor, from the PPA?
[13:55] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[13:56] <realhaxor> dunno.. but i tried from terminal using the command: sudo apt-get install simple-ccsm it returns with E: Broken packages. (After uninstalled GNOME 3)
 '~$ sudo nmap -O nas-server; No exact OS matches for host (If you know what OS is running on it, see http://nmap.org/submit/ ). OS detection performed. Please report any incorrect results at http://nmap.org/submit/ ." Is my result worth reporting?
[13:56] <iceroot> atvr: edit the grubline and put "nomodeset" on that, thats all
[13:56] <bazhang> realhaxor, well you would know if it was from the PPA
[13:56] <iceroot> !nox | atvr (this is an example how to edit that line)
[13:56] <realhaxor> bazhang: well, how to recover it?
[13:56] <bazhang> realhaxor, reinstall
[13:57] <realhaxor> reinstall my ubuntu?
[13:57] <bazhang> yes
[13:57] <n3rV3> atvr, did you give it a try?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/788835/
[13:57] <atvr> iceroot: i have already tried that
[13:57] <realhaxor> if we upgrade, the're will be no solutions?
[13:57] <iceroot> !details | atvr
[13:57] <oCean> bullgard4: not sure, the OS on NAS devices are often derivatives of Linux, I don't know if the people at nmap.org think it's useful
[13:57] <bazhang> since that was explicitly NOT supported, nope.  a reinstall is the fix
[13:57] <atvr> n3rV3: i cant get to the non x based terminal
[13:58] <realhaxor> well
[13:58] <realhaxor> ok..
[13:58] <realhaxor> thanks for the help!
[13:58] <nick30> realhaxor: if you don't have sensitive data, reinstall
 Thank you for your judgment.
[13:58] <nick30> ok, he left
[13:58] <n3rV3> atvr, but you were using the recovery mode, you can select drop to root prompt in it to get access and then try
[13:59] <atvr> iceroot:  i have installed ubuntu 11.10 with the alternative installation, the installation whent perfecly then it asked me to reboot, and then after the grub, the screen is going purple then black, my system is a toshiba satallite l745d with a amd radeon video card
[14:00] <iceroot> atvr: and you set "nomodeset"?
[14:00] <atvr> iceroot: yes and it didnt work, but maybe ive made a mistake, i am new to linux
[14:00] <dr_willis> ive often needed to use the nomodeset option untill i get the actual drivers installed.
[14:00] <yeehaw> atvr: Can't you press escape when it turns purple? You might get a prompt
[14:01] <dr_willis> Or try the 'text' kernel option in the grub menus
[14:01] <dr_willis> if you can get to the console. you may be able to get the ati drivers installed.
[14:02] <dr_willis> that would basically be the same as the recovery mode shell method.
[14:02] <atvr> n3rV3: it dosnt work
[14:03] <atvr> dr_willis: i cant press esc
[14:03] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:03] <atvr> dr_willis: it do nothing
[14:03] <n3rV3> atvr, use shift i think that will work
[14:04] <dr_willis> its shift for grub2 these days. if its hidden.
[14:04] <atvr> n3rV3: shift at the purple screen or when booting
[14:04] <n3rV3> atvr, when booting
[14:04] <dr_willis> tap the shift key like a  spastic woodpecker as it boots. :)
[14:04] <n3rV3> just after the bios screen
[14:05] <n3rV3> hehe
[14:05] <dr_willis> first thing i always do is make grub NOT auto hide..
[14:05] <dr_willis> such an annoying default.
[14:05] <atvr> n3rV3: it bring me too the grub2 menu
[14:05] <BluesKaj> dr_willis, why ?
[14:05] <atvr> wich i can edit command beford booting
[14:06] <dr_willis> BluesKaj: I dont see the point in having it hidden - other then to pacify neurotic users.
[14:06] <n3rV3> atvr, highlight first option for Ubuntu and press a
[14:06] <mytardis> i am having trouble getting the indie bundle #3 to work. when I try and run the launcher in crayon physics it keeps giving file not found response
[14:06] <atvr> n3rV3: i have tried puttin nomodeset but maybe i didnt do it correcly
[14:06] <n3rV3> atvr, we will try the single mode as dr_willis mention
[14:06] <atvr> n3rV3: pressing a does nothing
[14:06] <dr_willis> mytardis:  try running it from the terminal, it may give some erorr messages. also ive had issues with that game in linux and in windows.. it just seems.. well  badly done.
[14:06] <mytardis> I have chmod +x but that didnt help either, any idea's
[14:07] <n3rV3> atvr, for that add a space and type init=/bin/bash
[14:07] <mytardis> yes error is the same in terminal
[14:07] <n3rV3> atvr, then hit enter, this will take you to single mode
[14:07] <dr_willis> mytardis:  and the exact error is?
[14:07] <atvr> n3rV3: do you want me to press ``C`` for command line
[14:07] <BluesKaj> dr_willis, neurotic? , maybe they just want just a fast boot :)
[14:08] <n3rV3> no 'a' to append extra options to kernel entry
[14:08] <dr_willis> BluesKaj:  i doubt if they are gaining much.. a whole 2 sec? woopiee.. and we spend hours in here monthly explaining to people they need to tap the shift key.. at LEAST they could do is make it show a message 'hit some key for grub options' or have it be ANY key. :)
[14:09]  * dr_willis sees things from a 'person doing tech support' direction.
[14:09] <atvr> n3rV3: pressing the ``a`` key does nothing
[14:10] <n3rV3> atvr, hmm then press 'e' and the highlight line starting with linux and press 'e' again
[14:10] <Adrian_> Hi guys according to forums I have just been reading can someone confirm if I can't turn my ssd sata to ahci can I not install ubuntu to my ssd?
[14:10] <n3rV3> atvr, once you get the blinking cursor type in: init=/bin/bash
[14:10] <dr_willis> the recovery mode option in teh grub menu should be enough for atvr - no need for extra options if i recall correctly
[14:11] <mytardis> chris@chris-mint12 ~/CrayonPhysicsDeluxe $ ./crayon
[14:11] <mytardis> bash: ./crayon: No such file or directory
[14:11] <n3rV3> dr_willis, tried it they have removed failsafex from 11.10
[14:11] <dr_willis> mytardis:  you sure thats the proper name? use TAB key to get it spelt/completed properly
[14:12] <mytardis> dr_willis; tab get yielded same result
[14:12] <atvr> n3rV3: i cant highlight the line starting with linux
[14:12] <Adrian_> Anybody had any trouble installing ubuntu to an ssd
[14:13] <atvr> dr_willis: after getting in recovery mode, what you want me to do
[14:13] <BluesKaj> dr_willis, well, I don't need to see grub unless absolutely necessary , If I do , I just hold the shift key down after the bios scrn
[14:13] <lalagirl> bye everyone!!!!!!!!!!!! have a happy new years eve
[14:13] <mytardis> chris@chris-mint12 ~/CrayonPhysicsDeluxe $ ls -l crayon
[14:13] <mytardis> -rwxr-xr-x 1 chris chris 4405800 2011-08-03 18:31 crayon
[14:13] <sirajperson> is anyone else here having stability problems with ubuntu? I mean this darn thing is so slow.
[14:13] <dr_willis> BluesKaj:  the issue is from a tech support point of view.. its just another layer we have to explain/peel back to fix things
[14:13] <RedCoffe> hallo
[14:14] <sirajperson> Ever since they switched to unity it just seems to be going down hill
[14:14] <RedCoffe> german irc?
[14:14] <Adrian_> anybody good with ssd installaion
[14:14] <mytardis> strange ./crayon found with TAB, however crayon is not?
[14:14] <RedCoffe> ist das der german hier xd
[14:14] <BluesKaj> #ubuntu-de , RedCoffe
[14:14] <yeehaw> Adrian_: It's the same as normal, why?
[14:14] <sirajperson> imo unity just plain stinks.
[14:15] <atvr> dr_willis: do you know how to help me
[14:15] <sirajperson> and when you install gnome3 the whole os seems to get less stable.
[14:15] <yeehaw> Adrian_: Only to save space you might want to put the /home partition on a harddrive
[14:15] <Adrian_> yeehaw: cant recognize the disk size or format!! Only thing I can think of is to try and preformat the ssd to ext4 in win 7
[14:15] <sirajperson> It has been a pain trying find a whole new distro.
[14:15] <sirajperson> I tried kebuntu... fail
[14:16] <sirajperson> kubuntu***
[14:16] <dr_willis> atvr:  i dont have the boot menus memorized any more. there should be some revovery/failsafe mode in the grub menu to get you to a shell.
[14:16] <yeehaw> Adrian_: You could try that with the ubuntu livecd with the program gparted. Is ahci on in the bios?
[14:16] <dr_willis> atvr:  onve you get to a shell. you can try fixing things
[14:16] <sirajperson> so, after that I tried linux mint
[14:16] <oCean> sirajperson: did you join here to just rant, or do you have an actual question?
[14:17] <atvr> dr_willis: in the recovery menu i have the option root wich drop to root shell prompt
[14:17] <Adrian_> yeehaw: have been trying to do that but have not had any luck yet, gparted cant help tried live boot and in windows. don't think I have ahci capability. this is a new build and I neglected to check that detail, don't want to put an old disk in either if I can avoid it.
[14:17] <dr_willis> atvr:  so now you can try to fix things.. but i forget the original issue.
[14:17] <bazhang> !mintsupport | sirajperson
[14:18] <atvr> dr_willis: i dont know how to fix it lol, my issu is im having a black screen after grub, the screen isnt working
[14:18] <dr_willis> atvr:  so - you havent even tried the 'nomodeset' option?
[14:18] <yeehaw> Adrian_: hmm.. I don't really know then. My ssd was just supported like a normal harddrive
[14:19] <Adrian_> yeehaw: all data is on a nas so have 90gb force for dual boot os win7 and thought I might play with new ubuntu distro as haven't dual booted for a while and looks good.
[14:19] <atvr> dr_willis: yes ive tryed that in the editing grub, but it didnt work or maybe ive not do it corectly
[14:19] <yeehaw> Adrian_: What happens if you shrink the windows partition in Windows? Then you'll have unused space where you might be able to install Ubuntu
[14:20] <Adrian_> yeehaw: have 35gb raw waiting but ubuntu wont play ball. I assume ahci would be mentioned in mb spec or manual and it isn't?
[14:20] <freenodiz> Hi,when changing the hostname ,i insert echo "plato" > /etc/hostname  AND hostname -F /etc/hostname .  I don't understand what hostname -F is actually doing.what means tht second command i have to enter hostname -F ?
[14:20] <yeehaw> Adrian_: You can't find it in bios either?
[14:20] <yeehaw> Adrian_: It's mostly called sata mode: ide or ahci
[14:21] <dr_willis> atvr:  last i checked the !nomodeset url gave screenshots.  or you could edit the /etc/default/grub file and  change where it says 'quiet splash' to read 'nomodeset noquiet nosplash'   (to turn off other things that may be hiding error messages)   Then rerun 'update-grub' and reboot.. might get it going.
[14:21] <freenodiz> what this code is doing?  hostname -F /etc/hostname
[14:21] <_ikke_> I'm trying the ubuntu liveusb on a laptop, but it doesn't see the wireless adapter (not in ifconfig, not in lspci, not in dmesg). But I can't seem to find the model of the wireless adapter (it's a realtek). Anyone a clue how I can enable it?
[14:21] <Adrian_> as soon as I'm off irc I will reboot and check but just checked the gigabyte site and documentation and no mention only raid!
[14:21] <gurrot72> hmm.. i played with irssi and autlog on and off and loglevels.. now it wont log again.. any idea whats wrong?
[14:22] <dr_willis> _ikke_:  could be the wireless switch has it off, so its not seen
[14:22] <yeehaw> freenodiz: hostname -F /etc/hostname reads the hostname from /etc/hostname
[14:22] <_ikke_> dr_willis: It does not seem to respond (the orange light is not going on when I switch it)
[14:22] <_ikke_> dr_willis: And no message in dmesg
[14:22] <freenodiz> yeehaw,wht do you mean with "reads"?
[14:23] <_ikke_> dr_willis: Note that the light was on when I booted
[14:23] <yeehaw> Adrian_: Ok, what type of mb do you have?
[14:23] <sirajperson> Adrian_: so you are trying to install on your 35gb hd but you can't?
[14:23] <dr_willis> _ikke_:  on some systems - ive had to turn on wireless in windows.. then reboot to linux. and make sure to NEVER turn it off via the switch.
[14:23] <freenodiz> yeehaw,is it executing somenthing?or is just confirming the hostname?
[14:23] <yeehaw> freenodiz: it reads the hostname from that file and then sets it
[14:23] <atvr> dr_willis: i dont know to make those change in a terminal but if i edit in the grub2 will it be good
[14:23] <_ikke_> dr_willis: It was turned on in windows
[14:24] <Adrian_> yeehaw: no set windows with 60gb and planned to use remaining 30gb for ubuntu.
[14:24] <dr_willis> atvr:  sudo nano /etc/default/grub  use ctrl-SOMTHING (says at the bottom) to save
[14:24] <xgt001> where can i get some unity themes?
[14:24] <freenodiz> ahh,so it sets it :)...tha'ts what i wanted to know.to "echo" writes that file,then -F comes to read the file and set it in the system,ok
[14:24] <yeehaw> Adrian_: you're adressing the wrong guy, but what kind of motherboard do you have?
[14:25] <sirajperson> xgt001: there just aren't a lot of them out there
[14:25] <yeehaw> freenodiz: Btw, you could have done man hostname on the command line and found it in about 10 secs ;-)
[14:25] <Adrian_> yeehaw: mb is gigabyte m68mt-s2p, sorry sirajperson.
[14:25] <Adrian_> sirajperson: 90gb corsair force 60gb win 7 and remaining 30gb meant for ubuntu.
[14:26] <yeehaw> Adrian_: Looks like your motherboard uses a special NVIDIA driver for ahci
[14:26] <xgt001> sirajperson, exactly, i am stuck with ambiance :(
[14:27] <Adrian_> yeehaw:so maybe not a total loss, I might just reboot quickly, nice thing about this ssd is it is so quick, will be back shortly, thanks yeehaw.
[14:27] <yeehaw> Adrian_: Don't know if that's the problem btw
[14:27] <dr_willis> _ikke_:  im out of ideas then
[14:27] <_ikke_> dr_willis: Weird, the switch doesn't even seem to do anything in windows
[14:27] <freenodiz> yeehaw,thanks a lot ;) .it seems well documented :)
[14:27] <BluesKaj> atvr, after editing in nano , ctl+o to save , then enter, then ctrl+x to save and exit
[14:27] <freenodiz> yeehaw ++
[14:28] <sirajperson> xgt001: after realizing how little customization I could do with unity i switched to gnome3
[14:28] <yeehaw> freenodiz: Almost every command in Linux, but some manpages are not really readable for human pages
[14:28] <yeehaw> freenodiz: -pages
[14:28] <Adrian_> yeehaw:as far as I have googled it seems to be my most likely issue. if it is or isn't issue can I partition the drive to ext4 in win, do you think it might help?
[14:28] <yeehaw> Well, I don't think Windows is able to do this. But some third party tool might]
[14:28] <xgt001> sirajperson, no there is more customisation in unity actually, gnome needs lots of extensions though
[14:28] <_ikke_> dr_willis: It's the realtek8187B
[14:29] <Adrian_> That was my last hope, be back shortly hopefully with ahci enabled.
[14:29] <yeehaw> Adrian_: good luck
[14:29] <dr_willis> _ikke_:  means little to me. You could check the forums and askubuntu.com  about that specific chipset.
[14:29] <Adrian_> yeehaw:thanks again
[14:29] <_ikke_> dr_willis: Right, I found a ubunti wiki about it
[14:31] <slymico> I need a pdf guide for or other reference for ubuntu server administration
[14:31] <dr_willis> slymico:  thats a very very broad topic.
[14:31] <dr_willis> !server
[14:32] <slymico> ok but I need config a server for multihosting
[14:32] <atvr> dr_willis: i am lost XD i dont find what youve said
[14:32] <slymico> it is my specific requirement
[14:33] <yeehaw> slymico: You mean like a shared hosting platform with multiple websites running next to each other?
[14:34] <slymico> I need create three hosting in my ubuntu server each one have a different domain
[14:34] <yeehaw> slymico: You can just do that with a normal apache install
[14:34] <yeehaw> !apache
[14:34] <timposey> can anyone explain to me why a system would not show the grub screen?
[14:34] <freenodiz> yeehaw,how can i exit from man hostname information page?
[14:34] <yeehaw> freenodiz: q
[14:34] <theadmin> freenodiz: q
[14:34] <slymico> yes, I Know it
[14:34] <freenodiz> ok
[14:34] <yeehaw> slymico: Then what's you question?
[14:34] <slymico> I have 3 vistual host but is not working
[14:35] <yeehaw> Ok, could you paste one in pastebin?
[14:35] <slymico> how I configure the visrtual host and link the domain
[14:36] <atvr> dr_willis: when i am trying to save, it says error writing read-only file system
[14:36] <slymico> yeehaw: It's clear?
[14:36] <dr_willis> atvr:  in /etc/default/grub   the line (similer to this one) GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="noquiet nosplash nomodeset nofb "
[14:36] <yeehaw> slymico: You point the A-record of the domain to the ipadress of your server. Then in the vhost-conf you set the domain to a specific folder
[14:36] <timposey> I need to get into recovery mode but my grub splash screen is not showing no matter what I do, I have searched the web but see nothing any answers?
[14:36] <yeehaw> slymico: COuld you give me a vhostconfig in pastebin?
[14:36] <dr_willis> there might have been some 'remount in rw mode' item at the start of the recovery menus.
[14:36] <slymico> yeehaw: I'm using webmin
[14:36] <_ikke_> dr_willis: Would there be a difference between a Live USB boot and a real installation?
[14:37] <BluesKaj> atvr, use sudo nano to edit with permissions
[14:37] <dr_willis> _ikke_:   the live cd might do hw detection a little differntly.
[14:37] <_ikke_> ok
[14:37] <yeehaw> slymico: err.. I have no experience in that. I work at an isp, where we do everthing manually :P
[14:37] <_ikke_> dr_willis: lsusb does show the adapter
[14:37] <Dina> hello, when was the last time ubuntu had released updates? i haven't seen any for 16days in update-manager
[14:38] <_ikke_> dr_willis: dmesg says: rtl8187 switch is on
[14:38] <_ikke_> dr_willis: Ah, it does seem to be on now
[14:38] <yeehaw> Dina: What happens if you type the following in the command line: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:38] <yeehaw> Dina: Any errors in that output?
[14:39] <Dina> nope
[14:39] <Dina> it downloads normally some translations, packages etc
[14:39] <yeehaw> Dina: What version of ubuntu are you running?
[14:39] <Dina> 11.10
[14:40] <yeehaw> Dina: hmm.. I don't know the release schedule, but I would'nt worry to much
[14:40] <Adrian_> Adrian_NH
[14:40] <Dina> well yeehaw it's weird i haven't seen any security update for 16days :/
[14:41] <yeehaw> Dina: apt-get update checks the repositorys for updated packages. If it gives no errors, the repositorys are online for you. Does it give any output at all?
[14:41] <Adrian_> yeehaw: no joy it seems nothing in bios menu mentions ahci? anybody have any solutions?
[14:42] <yeehaw>  Adrian_: You could try putting the bios back to optimized defaults. There's a very tiny change that might work.
[14:42] <MonkeyDust> Dina  it seems to me, you're worrying because all is ok
[14:43] <yeehaw> Adrian_: Dina: gtg, sorry
[14:43] <Dina> okay :) ty for help
[14:43] <Adrian_> yeehaw: thanks
[14:44] <Dina> MonkeyDust: im not worrying that much, it's just weird
[14:44] <atvr> dr_willis: okay, so here it is lol i have made all the change you want me too, then i have updated the grub then i have rebooted and i have still the same issu
[14:44] <Dina> i was expecting a firefox9 in updates too :p
[14:44] <slymico> I need a book for ubuntu server configuration
[14:44] <atvr> dr_willis: but now i dont have the purple screen, it just go streat to the black one
[14:45] <dr_willis> atvr:  no text messages or errors mentioned? no shell login: prompt?
[14:46] <atvr> dr_willis: no
[14:46] <timposey> changed my root/admin password, is there anyway to get back into the system?  I can't sudo anything, so I can't change the way the system is working. /etc/default/grub.txt has GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" which I could use, but can't change because I don't have sudo access.  anyone with answers would be greatly appreciated.
[14:46] <atvr> atvr: it seems like it get into ubuntu but with no screen
[14:46] <MonkeyDust> timposey  try booting a live cd and change the password from there
[14:46] <dr_willis> !password
[14:46] <atvr> dr_willis: maybe the screen resolution is not right
[14:46] <theadmin> timposey: Append "init=/bin/bash" to your kernel line via the grub menu while booting.
[14:46] <dr_willis> atvr:  could be. hard to tell.  nomodeset works for my problem machines
[14:47] <theadmin> timposey: Then "mount -o remount,rw / && passwd somebody && sync && mount -o remount,ro / && reboot -f"
[14:47] <atvr> dr_willis: do you know how to put the nomodeset in the edit grub2 menu
[14:47] <dr_willis> atvr:  thats what we were doing.... making nomdoeset the default
[14:48] <timposey> theadmin are you saying by using the live cd? because otherwise I don't have grub menu
[14:48] <dr_willis> atvr:  in /etc/default/grub   the line (similer to this one) GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="noquiet nosplash nomodeset nofb "
[14:48] <theadmin> timposey: You need to hold Shift while grub is loading to get into it
[14:48] <dr_willis> sets nomodeset and turns of other potential problem settings
[14:49] <atvr> dr_willis: i know but when im in grub menu i can press ``e`` to edit comand before booting then i have this line ``linux.....noquiet nosplash nomodeset nofb``
[14:49] <timposey> theadmin, MondeyDust:  ok, let me try that thanks for the help!
[14:50] <raven> any cmd tool to delete rw-disks?
[14:50] <dr_willis> atvr: if you just wanted to get to the text console very time  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="noquiet nosplash nomodeset nofb text"   editing the grub menu via 'e' sets it for one time booting.. the /etc/default/grub file sets it permenetly
[14:51] <atvr> dr_willis:  oke but i have made it like you said with the /etc/default/grub file
[14:51] <dr_willis> atvr:  if nomodeset dosetn help. im out of ideas. you could try installing the drivers for whatever card you have via 'jockey-text' or apt-get if you know the package name
[14:52] <atvr> dr_willis: never mind i think i will be installing windows again
[14:52] <dr_willis> atvr:  you said you had a guide on it.. im just going from basic trouble shooting stuff.
[14:53] <Metroshica> dr_willis whats the issue youre having exactly?
[14:53] <dr_willis> Metroshica:  not me.. atvr .
[14:53] <atvr> dr_willis: i know but i dont know what to do now, i would like to have ubuntu but it just dont work
[14:53] <timposey> theadmin:  Holding down the shift key does not give me the grub screen
[14:54] <MonkeyDust> atvr  what part of ubuntu doesnt work?
[14:54] <atvr> Metroshica: my issu is when ubuntu boot, my screen is going black
[14:54] <theadmin> timposey: Which Ubuntu version are you running? Are you holding down left or right shift? (has to be left one iirc)
[14:54] <MonkeyDust> atvr  before or after the grub screen?
[14:54] <atvr> MonkeyDust: i cant get into ubuntu after the grub, my screen is going black
[14:54] <atvr> MonkeyDust: after
[14:55] <MonkeyDust> so it's a gui issue
[14:55] <atvr> MonkeyDust: what that, and can you help me solving this
[14:55] <rkokkelk> atvr: do you see a little underscore blinking?
[14:55] <atvr> MonkeyDust: i am new to linux
[14:55] <MonkeyDust> atvr  can you boot a live cd?
[14:55] <timposey> theadmin I was using the left shift, 10.04
[14:56] <atvr> rkokkelk: yes and after that the screen is completly black like its shut off
[14:56] <theadmin> timposey: Hmmm 10.04, I don't remember if that had grub2 yet... Try with Escape
[14:56] <atvr> MonkeyDust: yes i have one
[14:56] <dr_willis> grub2 = tap the shift key
[14:57] <rkokkelk> atvr: if the underscore is blinking it means it cannot boot the partition it wants to boot, this is usually because the root or boot partitioning is not enabled with the boot flag
[14:57] <MonkeyDust> atvr  have you tried choosing Recovery in the grub menu?
[14:57] <timposey> theadmin, ok, I'll be back in a minute
[14:58] <rkokkelk> atvr: if ubuntu is properly listed in grub, it probably not an grub error but an partitioning error
[14:58] <atvr> MonkeyDust: yes and i have 4 option to choose
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> atvr  choose Repair, see what happens
[14:59] <atvr> rkokkelk: even with a live cd i can only install the alternative iso, the only i can instal it with the normal one is to have nomodeset
[14:59] <atvr> MonkeyDust: okay
[15:00] <atvr> MonkeyDust: i dont have repair option, i only have resume, fsck, remount and root
[15:00] <timposey> theadmin: escape did not work either
[15:01] <rkokkelk> atvr: but what kind of partitioning you use, do you use automatic or do you configure it yourself?
[15:02] <atvr> rkokkelk: ubuntu is the only os installed it used the whole hdd wich is 640gb
[15:02] <rkokkelk> atvr: but have you set the root or boot partitioning with the bootable flag?
[15:03] <auronandace> rkokkelk: sounds like a graphics issue, not a partition issue to me
[15:03] <auronandace> atvr: did you try dr_willis suggestions?
[15:03] <atvr> rkokkelk: no, when i have installed ubuntu i have just selected the hdd
[15:03] <wiredvamp> everytime i restart my comp i aways have to restart my xscreensaver because i get this waring " The GNOME screensaver daemon appears to be running it must be stoppedfor XScreenSaver to work properly.  Stop the GNOME screen saver daemon now? " how can i unistall the GNOME screensaver?
[15:03] <MonkeyDust> atvr  the first time installing ubuntu?
[15:04] <rkokkelk> auronandace: usually if it's an graphical issue you get some feedback, like error message or flashing screen, if he sees only an underscore blinking it means i cannot access the partitioning
[15:04] <atvr> dr_willis: now i am at a screen that tells me there is 4new packages ans 291packages that are going to be updated and i have to select yes or no
[15:04] <atvr> MonkeyDust: yes
[15:04] <slakcphil> wiredvamp, try gnome-screensaver-command --exit
[15:04] <MonkeyDust> atvr  choose yes,
[15:04] <auronandace> rkokkelk: he also said that to get the livecd working he needs to use nomodeset, which it sounds like he hasn't tried on his install
[15:04] <atvr> MonkeyDust: okep
[15:05] <almoxarife> atvr: is ubuntu running on the hardrive or the usb?
[15:06] <atvr> almoxarife: on the hdd
[15:06] <wiredvamp> slakcphil: ok? what will that do?
[15:06] <atvr> MonkeyDust: all update have been made now, and i have rebooted now im at a screen wich ask me my user name and password
[15:07] <MonkeyDust> atvr  problem solved?
[15:07] <dr_willis> atvr:  so you are now getting to a login CONSOLE? or a nice gui login?
[15:07] <atvr> longin console
[15:08] <MonkeyDust> atvr  ctrl-alt-delete
[15:08] <atvr> it says that 295package can be updated and 56 are security updates
[15:08] <slakcphil> wiredvamp, it should stop the screensaver process if it is already running, you could do that remotely(that is how i used it)
[15:09] <slakcphil> wiredvamp, man gnome-screensaver-command
[15:09] <atvr> what is the command to get the update
[15:09] <atvr> MonkeyDust:
[15:09] <dr_willis> atvr:  from a console you can do a 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade' to install all updated.
[15:09] <dr_willis> atvr:  some times  things may get held back andyou do a 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' to pull in eveyrthing
[15:09] <wiredvamp> slakcphil: i would like to uninstall the GNOME screensaver though not just stop it.
[15:09] <insectatorious> guys, I did an upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 and then 9.10 to 10.04 via the alternate-CDs in each case. Now I get a black screen after the initial bios blurb. I have looked at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 and the nomodeset does not have any effect.
[15:10] <slakcphil> wiredvamp, my guess is that you cannot, maybe you could disable it however,
[15:11] <slakcphil> wiredvamp, on a side note, i want to write(in py) a screensaver that is like the one in jurassic park movie witht the fat guy(newman) waving his fingre saying ah ah ah, you didn't say the magic password
[15:11] <atvr> MonkeyDust: even if i have restarted i still have the console logging thing
[15:12] <wiredvamp> slakcphil: i was able to uninstall it b4 but i cant seem to find GNOME screensaver in the software center for some reason.
[15:12] <dr_willis> atvr:  'startx' should start a X session from the console - if its set up right.
[15:13] <atvr> dr_willis: it says server error
[15:13] <bd7349> Anyone mind helping me out with getting Ubuntu 11.10 installed on a separate partition on my MacBook Air
[15:13] <bd7349> ?
[15:13] <almoxarife> atvr: are you connect to the internet via hardwire?
[15:13] <atvr> almoxarife: yes
[15:14] <auronandace> bd7349: where are you stuck?
[15:14] <almoxarife> atvr: did you start the update? don't if you have not
[15:14] <atvr> i have use 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' and the updated have started
[15:14] <atvr> almoxarife: :S
[15:15] <bd7349> auronandace: I don't know what to format my partition as. I'vel looked everywhere online and can't figure it out. I've got a USB stick plugged in, but cannot go any further without knowing what to format my partition as.
[15:15] <auronandace> bd7349: you are installing to usb stick?
[15:16] <jrwr> Ive been having some trackpad issues with this new install of Xubuntu (11.10) The mouse seems to drift up or down if I try and be precise with it, || lspci : http://paste.ubuntu.com/788883/ .. Xorg.0.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/788884/
[15:16] <atvr> almoxarife: do you think update could solve my issue
[15:16] <jrwr> whats the best way to go about fixing this issue
[15:16] <timposey> MonkeyDust:  I burned a live cd and I am at the first screen of the live cd, where do I go from here to change the password
[15:16] <bd7349> auronandace: no, but I want to install it from a USB stick. Unless there are easier ways that will work with my MacBook Air?
[15:16] <auronandace> bd7349: oh, just chose the default partition type ext4
[15:17] <almoxarife> atvr: no
[15:17] <bd7349> auronandace: I don't see that as one of the options in Disk Utility. Do you mean ExFAT?
[15:17] <almoxarife> atvr: I rather be told I was wrong
[15:17] <auronandace> bd7349: no, are you on the live usb now?
[15:17] <atvr> almoxarife: what do you mean
[15:18] <bd7349> auronandace: Sorry, I'm confused. What do you mean by live usb?
[15:18] <auronandace> bd7349: you are installing ubuntu via usb? have you booted that usb?
[15:18] <almoxarife> atvr: it means I don't think I am wrong, but it would be nice to be wrong
[15:19] <n1c0-nuX> join #linux
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> timposey  http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/reset-your-ubuntu-password-easily-from-the-live-cd/
[15:19] <bd7349> auronandace: not yet. I still need to put ubuntu 11.10 on the USB stick. Should I convert the .iso to a .img or is that not necessary?
[15:19] <auronandace> !usb | bd7349
[15:19] <atvr> almoxarife: i just think i would be nice to see ubuntu booting damit lol<
[15:20] <almoxarife> atvr: there is a % at the beginning of the line, what's the number
[15:20] <timposey> MonkeyDust:  I burned the Ubuntu Server cd instead of the live desktop, I'm burning again now.  Thanks for the link...
[15:20] <atvr> almoxarife: 56
[15:20] <haylo> id reccomend running a live cd and then making the usb stick with startup disk creator inside of that
[15:20] <n1c0-nuX> hello everyone
[15:20] <bd7349> auronandace: also, what should my usb stick be formatted as?
[15:20] <n1c0-nuX> I'm a frech user and i wanna some help about the creation of "scripts"
[15:21] <atvr> almoxarife: its now 65%
[15:21] <haylo> fat 32
[15:21] <rkokkelk> n1co-nuX: what kind of script do you wanna create?
[15:21] <auronandace> bd7349: i've not installed via usb so i wouldn't know, but that link that ubottu gave you should tell you what you need to know
[15:21] <insectatorious> i realise the 'nomodeset' isn't terribly exciting but could someone help out?
[15:22] <n1c0-nuX> rkokkelk, Uuh, execute many commands by launching a simgle file
[15:22] <haylo> fat 32 and make it with unetbootin or Pendrive linux if you are in windows
[15:22] <pythonirc101> I just did a do-release-upgrade. And now it asks me which hard drive it should install grub on : /dev/sda - /dev/sda1 or /dev/dm-0 -- any hints on what the right answer is? is it ok to install it on all 3?
[15:22] <pythonirc101> I hope I've not killed my system already
[15:22] <haylo> sry not pendrive linus "universal usb creator"
[15:23] <rkokkelk> n1c0-nuX: okay on internet are a lot of tutorials about this, but very short, an script is an file that start with #!/bin/bash everything undernead this line are just normal command executed in the order they are listed in the file
[15:23] <jrwr> Python1320,  your drive is sda just install grub there
[15:23] <haylo> universal usb creator is your best bet for going from windows to ubuntu with only a usb
[15:23] <auronandace> haylo: he is on a mac
[15:24] <n1c0-nuX> rkokkelk, ok and wich extention do I add to the file ?
[15:24] <haylo> ah you know macs are notorious for not working with usb: but unetbootin should be fully compatible for macs unix system
[15:24] <n1c0-nuX> (sry for my approximative english)
[15:24] <haylo> macs have trouble booting form usb i dont know why but i hear it all the time
[15:25] <rkokkelk> n1c0-nuX: the file doesn't need to have an extension, so it just need to be able to execute
[15:25] <rkokkelk> n1c0-nuX: you can do this with chmod +x FILE
[15:25] <haylo> i would make a normal dvd or cd and use that on the mac
[15:25] <auronandace> haylo: he left
[15:25] <haylo> oh lol sorry il shut up
[15:25] <n1c0-nuX> rkokkelk, thank you very much n_n
[15:26] <wiredvamp> does anyone happen to know how to uninstall the GNOME screensaver beings i have XScreenSaver installed?
[15:26] <rkokkelk> n1c0-nuX: no problem, but you can do a lot of cool stuff with scripts so just check the internet for all the posibilities ;)
[15:27] <n1c0-nuX> rkokkelk, Yea I'll check it out
[15:29] <raven> how to format dvd/cd rw disk with cmd?+
[15:30] <dr_willis> wiredvamp:  i recall the webupd8 blog site having a few tweaks on using xcreensavers as a replacement to gnome-screensaver.
[15:30] <dr_willis> wiredvamp:  i think theres some 'gnome-screensavers' package you just remove
[15:31] <pythonirc101> jrwr: what about the other drives?
[15:31] <wiredvamp> dr_willis could u point me to the link?
[15:31] <haylo> what protocol does the remote desktop app use in unity 11.04? is it ssh?
[15:32] <Seveas> haylo, the default ubuntu-to-ubuntu remote desktop is vnc
[15:32] <BluesKaj> raven, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2005-January/017646.html
[15:32] <Seveas> but ubuntu has applications to support rdp or vnc+ssh as well
[15:35] <haylo> yeah i have gftp and openssh installed. i have a hard time moving directories with ssh though
[15:35] <pythonirc101> anyone can help me with grub installs after do-release-upgrade. I do not want to brick my system.
[15:36] <haylo> i would like something my family could use safely to move files and directories around. or should i just use the ssh scp command if i want security?
[15:36] <syockit> pythonirc101: just in case, a liveCD or liveUSB would be handy. you'll never know when you'll brick it, so better safe than sorry. And it's possible to recover your system from liveCD/USB
[15:36] <pythonirc101> If I install grub on /dev/sda, do I also have to install it in /dev/sda1?
[15:37] <Seveas> pythonirc101, no
[15:37] <pythonirc101> syockit: I've 3 options: /dev/dm-0 /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda
[15:37] <pythonirc101> so I just install it on /dev/sda?
[15:37] <pythonirc101> /dev/sda1 (254MB /boot)
[15:37] <Seveas> /dev/sda is where you will want it, yes
[15:37] <syockit> pythonirc101: what's dm-0?
[15:37] <Seveas> syockit, software raid
[15:37] <timposey> MonkeyDust:  I follow the commands until I get to the command to chroot and it comes back chroot:  failed to run command '/bin/bash': Exec format error - any pointers from here
[15:38] <pythonirc101> says (33025MB tbuntu-root) /dev/dm-0
[15:38] <BluesKaj> raven, or install wodim and do , wodim dev=/dev/cdrom blank=fast
[15:38] <Seveas> timposey, you're chrooting into a partition with the wrong cpu architecture
[15:38] <Seveas> such as trying to chroot into a 64-bit ubuntu on a 32-bit kernel
[15:38] <pythonirc101> k chose /dev/sda
[15:39] <timposey> seveas; ok that may be the problem I will burn the 3rd cd now... I can't remember what I have on this computer...
[15:39] <atvr> almoxarife: all updated are done now, so when it boot it bring me to a login terminal console, when i loged i have tryed startx then there is alot of imformation that i am able to see but there is a place that is written fatal server error: no screens found
[15:40] <Seveas> timposey, try this: filw /path/to/chroot/bin/bash
[15:40] <Seveas> that'll tell you whether it's 32 or 64 bit
[15:40] <Seveas> file, not filw btw :)
[15:41] <BluesKaj> atvr, which graphics card , in the terminal , lspci | grep VGA
[15:41] <almoxarife> atvr: run this         sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[15:41] <DarkXPhenomenon> happy new yr ubottu!! :P
[15:41] <timposey> seveas filw command not found
[15:42] <Seveas> timposey, it's spelled 'file' :)
[15:42] <beyondcr> #ubuntu+1
[15:42] <BluesKaj> atvr, sorry, at the prompt , lspci | grep VGA
[15:43] <timposey> seveas  sorry... cannot open no such file or directory
[15:43] <Seveas> timposey, then type in the correct path..
[15:43] <atvr> BluesKaj: i dont see it in the terminal but its a amd radeon card
[15:43] <vicsar> .
[15:44] <atvr> almoxarife: update are done
[15:44] <almoxarife> atvr: you ran the line I gave you?
[15:44] <atvr> almoxarife: yes
[15:44] <BluesKaj> atvr, you have a prompt , right ? , then just type it there , your card will be listed
[15:45] <atvr> BluesKaj: type what lol i am new to linux
[15:45] <almoxarife> atvr: this on the next line cat /var/log/xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[15:45] <melissa27> is there a way to make an already booted ubuntulive cd persistant by manually copying and mounting the fs ?
[15:45] <sirajperson> does anyone know of a good nintendo emulator for ubutnu 64bit?
[15:45] <BluesKaj> atvr, lspci | grep VGA
[15:45] <almoxarife> that is a zero
[15:46] <almoxarife> and the long L is pipe
[15:46] <timposey> seveas: I guess I need to wake up... ELF 32BIT LSB executable, Intel 80386
[15:46] <atvr> almoxarife: how can i do that ( | )
[15:46] <almoxarife> atvr: shift \
[15:47] <almoxarife> atvr: what you will get in response is a link, share that
[15:47] <timposey> Seveas:  I was trying to boot into it with a 32bit ubuntu live cd
[15:47] <Seveas> timposey, hmm, that should just work
[15:47] <timposey> seveas:  does it have to be the same 10.04 release of ubuntu
[15:48] <Seveas> timposey, no
[15:48] <Seveas> try chroot /path/to/chroot /bin/sh
[15:49] <atvr> almoxarife: it says you are trying to send an empty document
[15:49] <spaceneedle> PowerTop reports that an audio device is active 100% of the time. How do I remove it(hwC0D1 LSI ID 1040)?
[15:50] <almoxarife> atvr: could be, never started
[15:50] <melissa27> anybody has experience with pxe booting, live CD and persistance over NFS ?
[15:51] <almoxarife> atvr: this on the next line cat /var/log/syslog | pastebinit
[15:51] <atvr> BluesKaj: it says 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI technologies inc device 9647
[15:52] <timposey> seveas:  any suggestions on where to go from here?
[15:53] <atvr> almoxarife: same thing it says you are trying to send ans empty document
[15:54] <almoxarife> atvr: that one is not empty
[15:54] <jea> Can anyone recommend a way of backing up data over the internet to a home server?
[15:55] <atvr> almoxarife: that what`s that fucking laptop says XD i am out of luck
[15:55] <Yonotu> nickserv
[15:55] <oCean> atvr: again, control your language here, please
[15:55] <almoxarife> atvr: this on the next line cat(space)/var/log/syslog(space)|(space)pastebinit
[15:56] <almoxarife> atvr: the (space) is just that dead air spot
[15:56] <atvr> almoxarife: that is exacly what i have inserted
[15:57] <atvr> almoxarife: same thing it says you are trying to send ans empty document
[15:57] <almoxarife> http://paste.ubuntu.com/788919/ <-- I get that from the exact same
[15:58] <almoxarife> atvr: so, the mysteries go on
[15:58] <atvr> almoxarife: i know but maybe its because ubuntu never started
[15:58] <almoxarife> atvr: yeah, that's it
[16:00] <atvr> almoxarife: i think ive got the solution, i will hook the laptop on my jeep and have a little ride on the highway maybe it will work....
[16:01] <almoxarife> atvr: You are trying to send an empty document, exiting. <-- I get that too, when I don't have the spaces between 'cat' 'var/log/syslog'
[16:01] <atvr> almoxarife: ive put the space
[16:01] <antianno> hi folks! i was wondering, why isn't it possible to install both amd64 and i386 versions of SDL on a amd64 host (oneiric)? if i try to install, say, libsdl1.2debian-alsa:i386 explicitly, apt wants to remove the amd64-version :(
[16:02] <almoxarife> atvr: count them from the C of cat to the I of pastebinit
[16:02] <antianno> which is a problem for me since i have other (amd64) applications which also rely on SDL ...
[16:02] <atvr> almoxarife: count what
[16:02] <iGoogle> happy
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[16:02] <FloodBot1> iGoogle: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:03] <almoxarife> atvr: the spaces
[16:03] <atvr> almoxarife: there is 3 space
[16:03] <almoxarife> kinda cool
[16:03] <mneptok> antianno: it's probably libraries. install virtualbox-ose and then install a pure 32-bit Ubuntu into a VM.
[16:04] <mneptok> antianno: or, with some extra effort, you could sandbox the 32-bit stuff you need.
[16:05] <antianno> mneptok: well, the host is not exactly a powerful one, so i guess sandboxing would be nicer ... any hints?
[16:06] <mneptok> antianno: it's something i have done only a couple of times, and years ago. so my hint is, "go look at search results for a few hours." :/
[16:06] <mneptok> antianno: sorry i cannot be more helpful
[16:06] <mika__> hi all
[16:06] <mneptok> antianno: certainly chroot is going to be a tool you use.
[16:06] <mika__> happy new year
[16:07] <CriticalCore> hey hello ^
[16:07] <antianno> mneptok: no worries, i mean, the new year is coming, other things should be on our mind, right ;)
[16:07] <mneptok> antianno: right you are if you say so. :)
[16:08] <antianno> then no SNES gaming at the party tonight, i guess ...
[16:09] <mika__> I'm having problems with sound output - it just doesn't work and I wonder how to find out the problem. Any suggestions?
[16:09] <MonkeyDust> mika__  start by typing alsamixer in a terminal, make sure there's no MM
[16:09] <mneptok> antianno: not unless you get a 32 bit machine. i have yet to find any reliable, working SNES emu on AMD64. and i have tried.
[16:09]  * mneptok uses ZSNES on the 32-bit box downstairs
[16:10] <mika__> MonkeyDust: there's MM by "Speaker", what to do?
[16:10] <antianno> wait a minute, i could try with my laptop ... isn't the optimal solution, but if it works ... hmm!
[16:10] <MonkeyDust> mika__  MM means Mute
[16:10] <mneptok> antianno: laptop VGA > TV's DSUB
[16:11] <gijotom> hi
[16:11] <mneptok> antianno: you in the US? and if so, may i PM?
[16:11] <MonkeyDust> mika__  use the arrows to go to speaker and press M
[16:12] <mika__> MonkeyDust: done, still no sound... should I do anything additional?
[16:13] <kernelpanicker> I just discovered the windows key (to produce the ribbon) and then windows-tab produces numbers on the items in the ribbon... how do I get the same effect after I start searching for items in the ribbon?
[16:14] <antianno> mneptok: sry was afk shortly
[16:14] <antianno> mneptok: although i'm not in the US, you may PM me ..
[16:14] <Barnabas> kernelpanicker, I think you can just keep the windows button pressed
[16:15] <kernelpanicker> ok
[16:15] <Barnabas> now known as the unity button
[16:15] <MonkeyDust> mika__  no sound at all, or just in one application?
[16:16] <kernelpanicker> thanks... I wanted another name for that
[16:16] <kernelpanicker> I need some of those little stickers
[16:16] <mika__> MonkeyDust: no sound at all, should I restart the system to apply the mixer changes or anythig?
[16:17] <MonkeyDust> mika__  you could try it
[16:17] <kernelpanicker> what is the name of the panel that, in my case, pops out from the left when the unity button is pressed, and what is the differentiating name of the fly-out when the top icon is pressed, that lets you search by typing, and for that matter, what is the name of that icon?
[16:17] <kernelpanicker> sorry, lots of questions, but need to be able to ask questions about these things so need names ;)
[16:18]  * samsul is away: cari makan
[16:18] <MonkeyDust> kernelpanicker  the fly-out is called Dash
[16:18] <bazhang> samsul, disable that
[16:19] <kernelpanicker> MonkeyDust: ok
[16:19] <kernelpanicker> my only issue right now is that I have to mouse to items that appear in the dash
[16:19] <kernelpanicker> when I want some binding or picklist functionality to get them
[16:20] <kernelpanicker> for instance, I'll type firefox, and the browser icon appears below, and I have to use the arrow keys or mouse to launch it
[16:20] <finish06> i just added an unformated 1.5TB hdd to my computer, running 11.11 ubuntu, and  it does not show up in disk utility... any reasons??
[16:20] <kernelpanicker> hence my excitement when I accidentally discovered the superimposed numbers on the ribbon this morning when I used unity-tab
[16:20] <theadmin> kernelpanicker: Try launchy
[16:22]  * happynewyr 2012
[16:22] <kernelpanicker> theadmin: ok... but when I'm looking for a single feature, I always try to see if it's in what I've got, as I try to use what's baked into systems as much as possible
[16:22] <finish06> i just added an unformated 1.5TB hdd to my computer, running 11.11 ubuntu, and  it does not show up in disk utility... any reasons??
[16:23] <happynewyr> finish06: doesit show up in df -k
[16:24] <finish06> happynewyr, it does not. :(
[16:24] <happynewyr> does it show up in the bios?
[16:24] <finish06> think I maybe installed it wrong in the SATA ports then???  yeah, let me check the BIOS lol..
[16:25] <ithetux> ciao
[16:25] <happynewyr> ciao ithetux
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> list?
[16:25] <finish06> what happens if you changes sata ports while the computer is running?
[16:26] <happynewyr> finish06: you don't want to do that, ever. unless it is a hot swappable in which case it will not be SATA
[16:26] <slakcphil> finish06, could be bad
[16:26] <ithetux> è la prima volta che uso xchat, nei canali ci sono persone da tutto il mondo o solo del proprio stato?
[16:26] <slakcphil> corruption at least
[16:26] <finish06> oo... good to know.  let me turn off the computer and then switch them!!  :) lol.
[16:26] <MonkeyDust> !it| ithetux
[16:26] <happynewyr> ithetux: i don't speak italian
[16:26] <finish06> i dont'
[16:26] <finish06> i don't want corruption!!!'
[16:26] <slakcphil> finidh06, then don't work for wall street!
[16:26] <happynewyr> finish06: it will be more than corruption. switch off and ground yourself
[16:27] <cypher-neo> slakcphil, LOL!
[16:27] <finish06> be back in a moment. peace mates!
[16:27] <happynewyr> slakcphil: LOL
[16:27] <cypher-neo> slakcphil, Or any government at all!
[16:28] <slakcphil> :P
[16:28] <MonkeyDust> corruption is the glue for power :p
[16:28] <happynewyr> MonkeyDust: like xanthan gum :)
[16:29] <linuxearth> hi
[16:29] <linuxearth> how can i learn linux?
[16:29] <cypher-neo> linuxearth, Jump in. The waters great!
[16:30] <linuxearth> ok but how do i learn?
[16:30] <linuxearth> i have a single pc only, nothing for experiments
[16:30] <slakcphil> linuxearth, read the man pages for every command possible
[16:30] <linuxearth> should i learn commands?
[16:30] <linuxearth> or what?
[16:30] <eiriksvin> hi guys, I'm having alot of issues with my Netgear WNDA3100 USB Wifi on my amd64, I have tried a bunch of tuts on how to do it and searched blogs, can someone help me get this darn thing working... Ubuntu is NOT being nice
[16:30] <pangolin> !manual | linuxearth this should get you started with Ubuntu.
[16:30] <MonkeyDust> linuxearth  start here http://mybroadband.co.za/news/software/32474-a-windows-users-guide-to-linux.html
[16:30] <wildc4rd> chuck ubuntu on a box and play with it
[16:30] <linuxearth> ok
[16:30] <cypher-neo> linuxearth, Learn Terminal commands, and shell scripting.
[16:31] <slakcphil> open a terminal, type man ls then press enter
[16:31] <linuxearth> thanks guys many links
[16:31] <kernelpanicker> I went to a bookstore with comptuer magazines, and grabbed a magazine that has a live Ubuntu CD on it,
[16:31] <BluesKaj> c'mon guys , the terminalogy isn't familiar to him
[16:31] <_ikke_> How can I add / change an icon in the unity starter? I had a desktop icon to a wine program, but after I deleted it from the desktop, it got removed from the starter too. Now I only get the wine starter icon if I launch it from dash.
[16:31] <owenll> linuxearth: ask questions here and on the ubuntuforums, and read the ubuntu guides
[16:31] <slakcphil> man ls
[16:31] <kernelpanicker> then booted my computer from the live CD, choosing the 'Try Ubuntu' option
[16:31] <slakcphil> that's easy, then just read on how to ls a directory
[16:31] <BluesKaj> !linux | linuxearth
[16:31] <kernelpanicker> (this is if you don't have ubuntu installed on your computer)
[16:31] <linuxearth> pangolin: ty MonkeyDust: ty, owenll, cypher-neo: i just see many resources here
[16:31] <kernelpanicker> then go online and look up a little bash tutorial
[16:31] <cypher-neo> linuxearth, Also, every scripting language
[16:32] <kernelpanicker> linuxearth: do you have linux installed?
[16:32] <cypher-neo> linuxearth, lol. Ignore that
[16:32] <linuxearth> scripting language?
[16:32] <cypher-neo> linuxearth, I mistyped.
[16:32] <linuxearth> ok
[16:32] <kernelpanicker> linuxearth: do you have linux running on a computer?
[16:32] <slakcphil> !gdm | linuxearth
[16:33] <linuxearth> i am right now chatting from an office pc having linux
[16:33] <linuxearth> at home i have windows vista
[16:33] <cypher-neo> An office PC?
 Sorry, I don't know anything about gdm
[16:33] <linuxearth> yes
[16:33] <slakcphil> :P
[16:33] <cypher-neo> So you really can't make any changes to the programming, or the office will be pissed?
[16:33] <linuxearth> yes
[16:33] <slakcphil> !gnome | linuxearth
[16:33] <kernelpanicker> ok
[16:33] <linuxearth> just chating for 5-10 mins here
[16:34] <kernelpanicker> so, google 'learn bash' in a major search engine...
[16:34] <slakcphil> !kde | linuxearth
[16:34] <kernelpanicker> and look for a little tutorial
[16:34] <linuxearth> should i install at home ubuntu wiping out windows vista?
[16:34] <cypher-neo> In other words... you really can't do anything at the office. Go try to install Linux on your home computer and then experiment; for you, that will be the easiest way to learn.
[16:34] <slakcphil> !wubi | linuxearth
[16:34] <kernelpanicker> open a tutorial, move around the directories from the commandline
[16:34] <happynewyr> linuxearth: removing Vista and installing Ubuntu -> Great Idea
[16:34] <kernelpanicker> ubottu: I think he has linux installed
[16:34] <kernelpanicker> lol
[16:35] <kernelpanicker> got me
[16:35] <happynewyr> linuxearth: will save you so much trouble and heartache
[16:35] <linuxearth> happynewyr: if i would get stuck in the middle i would lose both - ubuntu as well as vista?
[16:35] <happynewyr> Well, you can use the LiveCD and if you likeit, install Ubuntu
[16:35] <happynewyr> linuxearth: or you can install it as a dual boot and then do away with Vista
[16:36] <linuxearth> live cd? that is to be downloaded then? from ubuntu website (I guess)
[16:36] <linuxearth> ok i should google
[16:36] <edbian> linuxearth, stuck in the middle?  If you get stuck in the middle start installing ubuntu again
[16:36] <linuxearth> what's one was telling of wubi?
[16:36] <kernelpanicker> linuxearth: you can download it.  Do you know how to burn CD's from iso's on your system?
[16:36] <linuxearth> what's wubi?
[16:36] <linuxearth> ok
[16:36] <slakcphil> !wubi | linuxearth
[16:36] <linuxearth> ok
[16:36] <kernelpanicker> linuxearth: but the wubi approach is better
[16:36] <MonkeyDust> linuxearth  forget wubi
[16:37] <edbian> linuxearth, You don't want wubi.  It simplifies the install by making it a thing you install INSIDE windows.  This has major technical limitiations
[16:37] <slakcphil> yeah wubi sux
[16:37] <linuxearth> ok
[16:37] <kernelpanicker> linuxearth: however... on occasion a windows system will be hosed by wubi
[16:37] <linuxearth> so i should download the cd?
[16:37] <edbian> linuxearth, wubi makes debugging problems later much harder
[16:37] <edbian> linuxearth, or the DVD
[16:37] <edbian> linuxearth, whatev
[16:37] <slakcphil> you are still depending on the windoze filesystem and bootloader
[16:37] <linuxearth> should i burn that with nero after downloading?
[16:37] <happynewyr> linuxearth: download Ubuntu ISO from Ubuntu website, burn it on CD or thumb drive and restart.
[16:37] <edbian> linuxearth, you have to download an ISO burner too, there are instructions on the site
[16:37] <kernelpanicker> linuxearth: I would probably go the CD route if you'd be ruined if you lost your window system
[16:37] <edbian> linuxearth, if nero can burn ISOs
[16:37] <happynewyr> linuxearth: Nero would do the trick nicely
[16:38] <linuxearth> ok
[16:38] <kernelpanicker> linuxearth: but if it doesn't matter, use the wubi route
[16:38] <linuxearth> in vista nero is there
[16:38] <kernelpanicker> linuxearth: I think learning about the CD's is a good way to go, anyway
[16:38] <happynewyr> linuxearth: then you're covered.. download ISO, burn using Nero and restart
[16:38] <edbian> kernelpanicker, linuxearth I strongly suggest not doing wubi
[16:38] <happynewyr> linuxearth: when u restart make sure the CD is in and you boot from CD
[16:38] <linuxearth> ok i start the download today, i guess (i don't know) that linux should be (?) better than vista?
[16:38] <eiriksvin> Can someone help me get my Netgear WNDA3100 working on my Ubuntu amd64 11.10? I have tried a bunch of tuts and searched blogs, but no go so far...
[16:38] <kernelpanicker> edbian, linuxearth, I'm in agreement
[16:38] <kernelpanicker> linuxearth: I'd go the CD route
[16:39] <happynewyr> linuxearth: start now. :)
[16:39] <linuxearth> ok
[16:39] <happynewyr> just 700 MB should be quick
[16:39] <linuxearth> and from ubuntu.com
[16:39] <happynewyr> linuxearth: yep
[16:39] <kernelpanicker> linuxearth: try to connect to your router with an ethernet line when booting from the CD's
[16:39] <cypher-neo> linuxearth, One thing you could do from the office computer is make yourself a bootable USB drive.
[16:39] <linuxearth> usb?
[16:39] <kernelpanicker> linuxearth: because sometimes linux has a hard time connecting to wireless routers initially
[16:40] <linuxearth> 2 gb usb?
[16:40] <slakcphil> dude, check out linux.org it looks like a ddos
[16:40] <edbian> linuxearth, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[16:40] <kernelpanicker> linuxearth: you can make a bootable thumb drive (usb drive) instead of the CD
[16:40] <kernelpanicker> linuxearth: but the CD is simpler, IMHO
[16:40] <spoq> dont panick...
[16:40] <linuxearth> i guess i should go for a simple cd
[16:40] <spoq> kernelpanicker is nearby!
[16:40] <kernelpanicker> linuxearth: how nearby?
[16:40] <spoq> very!
[16:40] <linuxearth> ??
[16:40] <kernelpanicker> oh lol
[16:40] <happynewyr> linuxearth: yep, get the CD
[16:41] <slakcphil> well it says bandwidth limit, did their isp run out of minutes?
[16:41] <cypher-neo> linuxearth, Once you've downloaded the ISO from the website, if you have a spare 2Gb usb stick, pop it into the computer and open the Terminal. Type "usb-creator-gtk" and follow the onscreen instructions. It will transfer the disc image to a USB flash drive so it works like a startup disc.
[16:41] <happynewyr> cypher-neo: he's on WIndows...
[16:41] <slakcphil> The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to the site owner reaching his/her bandwidth limit. Please try again later.
[16:41] <cypher-neo> happynewyr, He's on Ubuntu at the office
[16:41] <linuxearth> cypher-neo: i can try
[16:41] <slakcphil> linux.org ^^
[16:41] <Dynamit> then linux.org apache server does what it should when to big traffic
[16:42] <happynewyr> linuxearth: if you've doubts use the CD and Nero...
[16:42] <slakcphil> Dynamit, yeah? cool
[16:42] <linuxearth> which ubuntu i choose: 11.10 or 10.04 lts? at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[16:42] <cypher-neo> linuxearth, I find the USB drive nicer because it doesn't lock up your CD drive while you are previewing Ubuntu.
[16:42] <kernelpanicker> linuxearth: if you have a spare computer, then you can talk to us on one while messing around with the CD on another
[16:42] <linuxearth> ok
[16:42] <rohitjha> command to list all connected hardware
[16:42] <slakcphil> Dynamit, yeah looks like 2.1 mod_bwlimited
[16:42] <_ikke_> How do I create a new unity launcher?
[16:42] <linuxearth> but i choose : 11.10 or 10.04 at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download to start the download?
[16:42] <Kiten> linuxearth, personally i prefer 10.04 lts
[16:43] <cypher-neo> linuxearth, 11.10 is the current version. 10.04 is a long term supported version. Both are stable and usable.
[16:43] <Dynamit> still it do what it should do
[16:43] <linuxearth> anyone?
[16:43] <owenll> rohitjha:  lshw
[16:43] <Kiten> but you can use 11.10 if you want you can see the difference on ubuntu's site
[16:43] <happynewyr> linuxearth: go with 10.04
[16:43] <Dynamit> to protect it self
[16:43] <linuxearth> ok then 10.04 since longer support?
[16:43] <edbian> linuxearth, cypher-neo just answered you
[16:43] <linuxearth> ok
[16:43] <happynewyr> linuxearth: 10.04 is long term support...
[16:43] <linuxearth> i come back tomarrow after install from home pc?
[16:44] <happynewyr> linuxearth: once you install and you like you can always try 11.10
[16:44] <eiriksvin> Can someone help me get my Netgear WNDA3100 working on my Ubuntu amd64 11.10? I have tried a bunch of tuts and searched blogs, but no go so far...
[16:44] <edbian> linuxearth, what's going to take so long?  come back in 40 min when it's done
[16:44] <linuxearth> nope but i have to install it in home pc
[16:44] <kernelpanicker> linuxearth: also, it's amazing how a live ubuntu CD will suddenly resurrect an old assumed dead windows machine
[16:44] <happynewyr> linuxearth: come back when or during your install if you need help
[16:44] <kernelpanicker> linuxearth: people think the computer is dead, when of course it's just windows that's dead
[16:44] <linuxearth> ok
[16:44] <Kiten> linuxearth, you can see what they look like on google images
[16:44] <slakcphil> linuxearth, i must say, if you want to learn "linux" you should get an old stable pentium 4 with know hardware and just play with distros that have fundamental differences. like centos/fedora suse debian/ubuntu slackware etc.
[16:44] <kernelpanicker> so you can get another computer for free
[16:44] <linuxearth> but i guess first, i should read the installation instructions also
[16:44] <slakcphil> known good hardware^^
[16:44] <cypher-neo> eiriksvin, What's not working?
[16:44] <kernelpanicker> where I live, there are actually dozens of computers sitting at the city dump
[16:45] <MonkeyDust> kernelpanicker  to most people, computer == windows
[16:45] <edbian> eiriksvin, googling
[16:45] <eiriksvin> I run Windows Wireless Drivers after installing correctly. A window comes up and I click Add new driver/device. I then choose the appropriate .inf file. Immidiately, a window appears showing "MODULE COULD NOT BE LOADED, ERROR: [BLANK]"
[16:45] <kernelpanicker> linuxearth: which can be turned on, booted from a cd, have ubuntu installed, and voila
[16:45] <cypher-neo> kernelpanicker, Wish i had a dump like that!!
[16:45] <kernelpanicker> cypher-neo: yeah... they get mad when you grab one, though...
[16:45] <linuxearth> slakcphi: i have started the download of ubuntu only? you are saying for more other distros too?
[16:45] <slakcphil> linuxearth check out the differences in rc.d and init.d and all that good stuff
[16:45] <edbian> eiriksvin, what is the chipset of this card?
[16:45] <happynewyr> linuxearth: start with Ubuntu
[16:45] <edbian> eiriksvin, I'll keep in mind that you tried to use ndiswrapper
[16:45] <linuxearth> what's rc.d?
[16:45] <kernelpanicker> cypher-neo: because they have some deal with a recycling company or something
[16:45] <eiriksvin> wnda3100v2
[16:46] <happynewyr> once you settle down in it, you can explore the other distros
[16:46] <linuxearth> slakcphil: what's rc.d and what init.d?
[16:46] <kernelpanicker> cypher-neo: so you park next to it, dump some stuff, and pop an old dell or whatever into your car
[16:46] <slakcphil> linuxearth wikipedia and man pages are your friend
[16:46] <edbian> linuxearth, a folder containing scripts that run on the local machine at boot tie
[16:46] <linuxearth> ok
[16:46] <cypher-neo> kernelpanicker, I would totally do that!
[16:46] <linuxearth> i have started the ubuntu download
[16:46] <edbian> linuxearth, init.d is a folder of other scripts that run at boot time
[16:46] <kernelpanicker> cypher-neo: the recycling companies get rare metals etc from the hard drive platters
[16:46] <eiriksvin> Bus 001 Device 005: ID 0846:9011 NetGear, Inc. WNDA3100(v2) 802.11n [Broadcom BCM4323]
[16:46] <kernelpanicker> linuxearth: yahoo
[16:46] <happynewyr> linuxearth: just out of curioisity what is themachine you're installing this
[16:46] <linuxearth> ok
[16:46] <edbian> linuxearth, why are you asking about this folders?
[16:46] <edbian> eiriksvin, ok hang on
[16:47] <slakcphil> edbian because i mentioned them
[16:47] <spoq> hi edbian, #debian is where you need to go.
[16:47] <edbian> slakcphil, oh :P
[16:47] <cypher-neo> eiriksvin, What's wrong with using the default Ubuntu network setup?
[16:47] <happynewyr> linuxearth: some hardware can give you trouble :) Broadcom for instance
[16:47] <edbian> spoq, stop that! :P
[16:47] <spoq> :D
[16:47] <edbian> eiriksvin, sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[16:47] <linuxearth> would it detect the printer, i guess yes
[16:47] <happynewyr> may printers are auto detected and installed
[16:47] <happynewyr> *many
[16:48] <linuxearth> ok
[16:48] <kernelpanicker> linuxearth: well, today you're starting linux, and today I'm starting java
[16:48] <linuxearth> ok
[16:48] <linuxearth> and today the year is ending!!
[16:48] <happynewyr> kernelpanicker: cool... Python would be an easier language to learn
[16:48] <eiriksvin> edbian trying it now
[16:48] <happynewyr> linuxearth: in some places it already has ended
[16:48] <edbian> eiriksvin, are you sure about your device chipset?  4323 ?
[16:48] <slakcphil> linuxearth, i was just saying that most linux distros are diff from each other, but if you learn the redhat/centos/fedora and debian/ubuntu you will do well since the two have very diff ways of doing everything.
[16:49] <linuxearth> yes
[16:49] <eiriksvin> i just lsusb it
[16:49] <eiriksvin> eiriksvin@Eiriks-Linux:~$ lsusb
[16:49] <eiriksvin> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[16:49] <eiriksvin> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[16:49] <eiriksvin> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 050d:945a Belkin Components
[16:49] <eiriksvin> Bus 001 Device 005: ID 0846:9011 NetGear, Inc. WNDA3100(v2) 802.11n [Broadcom BCM4323]
[16:49] <FloodBot1> eiriksvin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:49] <eiriksvin> oops sorry
[16:49] <linuxearth> slakcphil: but i should start with ubuntu
[16:49] <linuxearth> ??
[16:49] <slakcphil> linuxearth like where they put config files and such, but for the most part the same
[16:49] <kernelpanicker> happynewyr: you're right, but have to do java for work
[16:49] <edbian> eiriksvin, oh wait, this is a USB device?
[16:49] <happynewyr> linuxearth: Ubuntu is your best transition linux
[16:50] <eiriksvin> yeah
[16:50] <slakcphil> linuxearth definately, it has the best community
[16:50] <edbian> eiriksvin, this site says that device isn't supported yet: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[16:50] <happynewyr> kernelpanicker: Java is a pain... and I was among the first 200 java developers globally
[16:50] <eiriksvin> is that Linksys dual band supported?
[16:50] <edbian> eiriksvin, I have no idea?
[16:50] <kernelpanicker> happynewyr: holy smokes
[16:50] <kernelpanicker> happynewyr: first 200!
[16:51] <kernelpanicker> happynewyr: wow
[16:51] <happynewyr> yep, way back in 1996
[16:51] <happynewyr> when java was not yet 1.0
[16:51] <MonkeyDust> when we was young and beautiful
[16:51] <kernelpanicker> happynewyr: well, I was learning lisp, but it's got to be java for now for work
[16:52] <kernelpanicker> I am middle aged and partially beautiful
[16:52] <happynewyr> kernelpanicker: Java is good from an Object Oriented Language perspective
[16:52] <happynewyr> kernelpanicker: partially?
[16:52] <kernelpanicker> happynewyr: yes, I have no qualms learning it
[16:52] <spoq> do you still use the original linux?
[16:52] <mebigfatguy_> (from the feet down)
[16:52] <kernelpanicker> happynewyr: yes, my left elbow is still beautiful
[16:52] <happynewyr> kernelpanicker: it's just too complicated now
[16:53] <reloaded> hai Guys !! I have a Bandluxe usb sim modem , when I connect the modem in 11.10 It is automaticaly dectecting the SIM service and I can setup my plan in that ! But when I connected the modem in 10.04 it will not act as the 11.10 configuration How to get connect the modem in 10.04
[16:53] <kernelpanicker> happynewyr: yeah... I think that has something to do with why people make money with it... lol... fixing problems from the complexity
[16:53] <eiriksvin> grr ubuntu can be so frustrating sometimes, the top of the market is Netgear, why wouldn't they focus on getting support for what people are going to buy
[16:53] <kernelpanicker> happynewyr: at any rate, there is no avoiding it for me now
[16:53] <happynewyr> kernelpanicker: Java is good for some stuff, but ppl use it for everything and that sucks
[16:54] <kernelpanicker> happynewyr: yeah... my strategy is to try to learn as many languages as I can
[16:54] <happynewyr> kernelpanicker: and then Oracle comes along to screw with the Sun implementation
[16:54] <slakcphil> happynewyr, :P
[16:54] <kernelpanicker> happynewyr: yeah
[16:54] <happynewyr> kernelpanicker: tried haxe?
[16:54] <kernelpanicker> happynewyr: nope
[16:54] <happynewyr> promising as a language
[16:54] <kernelpanicker> happynewyr: if I go a new language route, it will be one of the lisp variants
[16:55] <reloaded> hai Guys !! I have a Bandluxe usb sim modem , when I connect the modem in 11.10 It is automaticaly dectecting the SIM service and I can setup my plan in that ! But when I connected the modem in 10.04 it will not act as the 11.10 configuration How to get connect the modem in 10.04
[16:55] <happynewyr> kernelpanicker: love Lips so much?
[16:55] <happynewyr> *lisp
[16:55] <anmar`> 11:38 *** behanw JOIN
[16:55] <LosFrijoles> is it considered bad practice for me to use the same ssh keys for both my laptop and desktop or should they have different keys?
[16:55] <anmar`> LosFrijoles: not really... just keep your private key private.
[16:56] <happynewyr> reloaded: maybe the driver is not in the 10.04 repos
[16:56] <kernelpanicker> happynewyr: looking at teh HaXe site
[16:56] <kernelpanicker> happynewyr: I love the Lips
[16:56] <happynewyr> kernelpanicker: :)
[16:56] <LosFrijoles> anmar`: i did it to make my computers look the same when logging in to my website so I just wanted to make sure that wasn't going to cause problems. thx
[16:56] <slakcphil> LosFrijoles, i think it is bad practice to use keys unless scripting, especially on portables like laptops and desktops
[16:57] <kernelpanicker> well... going to my java learning now... I'll check in periodically
[16:57] <happynewyr> alright folks, gotta run now...
[16:57] <slakcphil> not to start a flamefest but...
[16:57] <kernelpanicker> slakcphil: oh no
[16:57]  * happynewyr 2012to all
[16:57] <slakcphil> :P
[16:57] <happynewyr> ok, now am waiting to see slakcphil's flame war
[16:57] <slakcphil> kernelpanicker, where do you do your learning?
[16:57] <reloaded> happynewyr, I have windows drivers  for the modem ,is that any way I can use it for using the modem in  10.04
[16:58] <happynewyr> reloaded: ndiswrapper? not sure really...
[16:58] <slakcphil> happynewyr, i also think that gnome and unity are non-linuxish compared to kde!
[16:58]  * happynewyr reminds slakcphil about the flamewar
[16:58] <slakcphil> :P
[16:58] <happynewyr> I hate Unity!
[16:58] <happynewyr> miss the Gnome 2.0
[16:59] <reloaded_> happynewyr, I have windows drivers  for the modem ,is there any way I can use it for using the modem in  10.04
[16:59] <sburwood1> Happy New Year ... a little early, I admit
[16:59] <happynewyr> moved safely to xfce becase KDE is bad as well
[16:59] <slakcphil> yeah, iwill miss the old ubuntu splash boot screens
[16:59] <slakcphil> the one with the big orange bar
[16:59] <happynewyr> reloaded_: not sure without the chipset etc
[16:59] <theadmin> happynewyr: Don't you find XFCE even more powerful and functional than Gnome2?
[16:59] <happynewyr> what does lspci tell you?
[17:00] <happynewyr> I love xfce... works beautifully on my netbook
[17:00] <happynewyr> and a couple of my friends are contributors. so loyalty FTW
[17:00] <anmar`> 11:59 <reloaded_> happynewyr, I have windows drivers  for the modem ,is there any way I can use it for using the modem in  10.04
[17:00] <atari314> Hello, anyone knows if is it possible to run some program parallel to tty login (CLI login)? (like leave X loading while logging the user)
[17:00] <theadmin> happynewyr: May I pm you?
[17:01] <happynewyr> theadmin: sure
[17:01] <slakcphil> i like salix, the slackware based lightweight system with the ratpoison wm, it works great in a vm with win7 host and limited ram
[17:01] <eiriksvin> Where's the Ubuntu 11.10 USB Wifi adapters supported list?
[17:01] <sburwood1> I want to convert some flv files into mp3 format.  I have Ubuntu 11.10. What applications are available to do that?
[17:01] <eiriksvin> so I can go down to Walmart and trade this crap in
[17:01] <happynewyr> sburwood1: ffmpeg
[17:01] <Stanley00> Happy new year!!!
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[17:02] <slakcphil>              *  (   ((  /     ))\))  (  )    )
[17:02] <FloodBot1> slakcphil: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:02] <sburwood1> happynewyr: That can convert from video into audio?
[17:03] <spoq> loool
[17:04] <eiriksvin> Can someone tell me where the Ubuntu 11.10 USB Wifi adapters supported list?
[17:05] <pksadiq> !wifi | eiriksvin
[17:06] <reloaded_> happynewyr, what is the name of software that used to connect the mobile broadband in 11.10
[17:06] <Oer> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[17:06] <who_me> eiriksvin: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/category/WIRELESS
[17:07] <linuxearth> thanks guys, i come tomarrow after install
[17:08] <reloaded_> happynewyr, what is the name of software that used to connect the mobile broadband in 11.10
[17:08] <reloaded_>  what is the name of software that used to connect the mobile broadband in 11.10
[17:09] <kernelpanicker> how do I show the desktop in unity (keybinding)?
[17:09] <Seveas> reloaded_, network-manager
[17:10] <eiriksvin> Broadcom BCM4323 not supported... grrr
[17:10] <Seveas> kernelpanicker, [windows key] + d I believe
[17:10] <MonkeyDust> !bcm| eiriksvin
[17:10] <eiriksvin> I'm goiing back and trying the linksys
[17:11] <happynewyr> eiriksvin: broadcom's fault
[17:11] <toad_bottle> while applying security upgrades via synpatic to my ubuntu 10.04, my computer froze and I had to do a forced shutdown. Now I cant boot at all. It always stops at the login screen with the message, "The configuration defaults for GNOME Power Manager have not been installed correctly". And I wouldn't even be able to move my mouse on the login prompt. keys wont work either. When I tried to get into recovery mode, it stops at Applyin
[17:12] <shadhin> hi frnz
[17:12] <happynewyr> toad_bottle: that's a bad scene
[17:12] <toad_bottle> happynewyr: what do u recommend i do?
[17:12] <happynewyr> can you see if you can open a terminal?
[17:13] <shadhin> Happy new year frndz
[17:13] <happynewyr> ctrl alt f1
[17:13] <toad_bottle> nope
[17:13] <toad_bottle> i tried that
[17:13] <zCoder> hi
[17:13] <MonkeyDust> toad_bottle  i've had, too, i had to connect via ssh, backup and reinstall
[17:13] <zCoder>   what does    ../   ./   /   mean?
[17:13] <zCoder> what represents what dir?
[17:13] <fubbi> ../ = one folder up
[17:13] <MonkeyDust> zCoder  / is root,
[17:14] <happynewyr> ./ is current dir
[17:14] <joed_> hello
[17:14] <toad_bottle> MonkeyDust: how can i connect via ssh if I cant' even boot ubuntu normally?
[17:14] <joed_> can anyone help me with synergy?
[17:14] <zCoder> ? / root of the current dir  or overall root?
[17:14] <happynewyr> toad_bottle: can you ping it? maybe it does boot but Gnome is dead
[17:14] <toad_bottle> would openssh be running
[17:14] <happynewyr> overall root is /
[17:14] <MonkeyDust> toad_bottle  forgot to mention, i have more than 1 pc, did over the local network
[17:15] <zCoder> is there a referance to this on the net .. what would i look for
[17:15] <happynewyr> toad_bottle: if X is dying, then ssh would run
[17:15] <zCoder> dir structure isnt it
[17:15] <happynewyr> zCoder... that is the linux directory structure
[17:15] <joed_> can anyone help with configuring synergy?
[17:15] <happynewyr> zCoder: it is different slightly from the way Windows does it
[17:15] <Sidewinder1> zCoder, Usually root is in /..
[17:15] <toad_bottle> ic
[17:16] <toad_bottle> so I should just boot my computer, then use another computer to ssh into it
[17:16] <zCoder> im actually asking more toward programming
[17:16] <happynewyr> toad_bottle: worth trying
[17:16] <zCoder> im in public_html     in there it might be / considered root
[17:16] <MonkeyDust> toad_bottle  try booting from a live cd or thumdrive, backup from there and reinstamm
[17:16] <MonkeyDust> ll
[17:17] <happynewyr> zCoder: / is the root of the system, Apache will have a different root
[17:17] <usuario> jnç
[17:17] <happynewyr> and Apache's root will be defined in the config file
[17:17] <owenll> toad_bottle: this is out there http://paste.ubuntu.com/788988/
[17:17] <zCoder> right.. but apaches root will also be accessed by /
[17:17] <zCoder> because i dont have permissions to go further
[17:17] <Sidewinder1> zCoder, When you say public, or /pub, that's usually associated with an FTP Server..
[17:17] <usuario> becouse
[17:17] <toad_bottle> owenll: unfortunately, i tried booting into recovery mode, but it gets stuck halfway through
[17:18] <zCoder> alright so whats ./  and ../   ?
[17:18] <zCoder> again
[17:19] <owenll> toad_bottle: ok sorry :-/
[17:19] <yumbo> zCoder, ./ is the current directory you're in
[17:19] <rumpe1> zCoder, . = current folder, .. = previous folder
[17:19] <zCoder> hmm previous?
[17:20] <zCoder> you mean the one the current one resides in?
[17:20] <happynewyr> zCoder: parent
[17:20] <toad_bottle> no worries
[17:20] <zCoder> ahh
[17:20] <rumpe1> zCoder, yes
[17:20] <zCoder> alright, thanks guys.
[17:20] <happynewyr> zCoder: take care
[17:21] <zCoder> bye
[17:22] <toad_bottle> i dont really have much files saved yet. mostly programs that are installed. Might just mount my filesystem and look at my bash_history to see what programs/dependencies/libraries i have to install and how i configured them. then do a clean install again
[17:23] <toad_bottle> if ssh from another machine doesnt work
[17:23] <happynewyr> toad_bottle: if you don't have much data to lose, then reinstall Ubuntu on a diff partition
[17:24] <toad_bottle> happynewyr: what not just reinstall it on the same partition?
[17:24] <toad_bottle> why*
[17:24] <happynewyr> toad_bottle: you can if you don't have any data/programs to lose
[17:25] <happynewyr> toad_bottle: if your mbr or grub is broken, then you could probably fix it
[17:25] <toad_bottle> how do i fix it?
[17:25] <toad_bottle> or how do i know whether its broken
[17:26] <happynewyr> toad_bottle: do you see the grub menu?
[17:26] <cypher-neo> Is there any reason why aptitude was removed from 11.10?
[17:26] <toad_bottle> 4 things
[17:26] <toad_bottle> normal, recovery, memory test, and another memory test
[17:26] <toad_bottle> and i can do ctrl-c to go to command line
[17:26] <happynewyr> cypher-neo: Canonical likes to mess with it's users' mind
[17:26] <toad_bottle> but the command line is not bash complete
[17:26] <happynewyr> toad_bottle: ok, so it was the first install
[17:27] <toad_bottle> its very limited
[17:27] <toad_bottle> yep
[17:27] <toad_bottle> its the first install
[17:27] <FloodBot1> toad_bottle: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:27] <happynewyr> toad_bottle: and if you don't have too much data, just go ahead and reinstall
[17:27] <cypher-neo> happynewyr, lol. I just reinstalled it, cause I modded my .bashrc file with an aptitude command, and I realized when I tried to run it that omfg, it's not installed!
[17:27] <happynewyr> on the same partition if you want to
[17:27] <toad_bottle> ok, i'll just reinstall it then :(
[17:28] <toad_bottle> thanks
[17:28] <cypher-neo> happynewyr, I just wanted to make sure I wouldn't break something else by installing it.
[17:28] <toad_bottle> for the tips
[17:28] <happynewyr> toad_bottle: you're welcome
[17:28] <happynewyr> cypher-neo: you can't break too much
[17:28] <happynewyr> cypher-neo: besides you learn when you break
[17:28] <happynewyr> :)
[17:28] <cypher-neo> happynewyr, You'd be surprised!!
[17:29] <cypher-neo> happynewyr, But, you're right, I do learn things when I break them.
[17:30] <happynewyr> cypher-neo: if I am even here and able to help people, it's because I've broken everything possible in my Ubuntu systems
[17:30] <cypher-neo> lolol!
[17:30] <happynewyr> cypher-neo: I've mucked about quite a bit... short of compiling my own kernel, i''ve done pretty much everything else
[17:31] <cypher-neo> happynewyr, Me too. I actually enjoy breaking things. It's only a pain in the butt when you break something and then have to back up 50+Gigs to make sure you don't lose anything.
[17:31] <Kiten> happynewyr, yeah same hear thats really the only thing i haven't done yet
[17:31] <happynewyr> yeah, I much about in my VMs quite a bit
[17:32] <Kiten> yeah i just muck around in arch in virtual box if i want to break something
[17:32] <happynewyr> virtual box? i prefer openvz
[17:32] <Kiten> i've never used openvz much less heard of it
[17:33] <Kiten> i just use virtual box because thats what i've always used
[17:33] <happynewyr> i've got a b*tch system running proxmox...
[17:33] <Kiten> oh and qemu
[17:33] <lordjj> Happy New Year's Ubuntu people
[17:33] <Kiten> happy new years
[17:34] <happynewyr> let me put it this way Kiten... openvz is not GUI based
[17:34] <happynewyr> :)
[17:34] <compdoc> virtualbox is best for running windows if you need to run it on your desktop, but I like qemu-kvm for servers
[17:35] <happynewyr> compdoc: proxmox is a very good barebones installer if you want to run a virtualized environment
[17:35] <Kiten> happynewyr, neither is qemu although gui's do exist for it
[17:35] <compdoc> happynewyr, I'll take your word for it
[17:36] <Akkan`> can someone tell me how to remove logs on root
[17:36] <happynewyr> alright peeps, gotta run.
[17:36] <Akkan`> ?
[17:36] <happynewyr> ta!
[17:36] <Kiten> happynewyr, happy new years ;p
[17:36] <Akkan`> can someone tell me how to remove logs on root ?
[17:37] <Kiten> !repeat | Akkan`
[17:37] <KoltMaesta> Hi! Approximately a week after I upgraded to 11.10 my wifi sometimes keeps connecting and nothing happens. The network is still ok, I just wont connect, and it takes forever. Most of the time it works great. What can cause this annoying issue?
[17:37] <Kiten> why do you need to remove logs
[17:37] <Akkan`> i just wanna remove
[17:37] <Akkan`> do you know the command or no ?
[17:38] <Kiten> well there isn't any real command but if you want to they are in /etc/ somewhere knock your self out
[17:38] <Kiten> just becareful deleting things in /etc/
[17:38] <DrPenguin> arent logs in /var/log and not in /etc?
[17:38] <Seveas> DrPenguin, they are
[17:38] <Kiten> yeah the normal system logs
[17:39] <Kiten> wifi the ones in /etc/ mostly deal with wifi related junk
[17:39] <Seveas> Akkan`, logs live in /var/log, they can be removed with 'sudo rm filename.here'. Don't remove any directories, just files.
[17:39] <DrPenguin> I never would of figured there would be logs in /etc.. good to know
[17:39] <Akkan`> Seveas ty
[17:39] <Seveas> DrPenguin, there are no logs in /etc
[17:39] <DrPenguin> Seveas: Kiten just said some wifi ones live in etc
[17:40] <Seveas> DrPenguin, well, that's not true :)
[17:40] <dury> hi there channel :)
[17:40] <Seveas> hi there dury
[17:40] <dury> Happy New Year :)
[17:40] <Kiten> DrPenguin, yeah my bad you guys are on a different distro :P
[17:40] <Kiten> arch has logs in /etc/
[17:40] <dury> Seveas: how do u doing there?
[17:41] <DrPenguin> Kiten: @_@ WHA? arch puts logs in /etc? I will DEFINITELY need to look at that when I get my laptop back..
[17:41] <Seveas> dury, I'm stil in 2011, no new year yet for me :)
[17:41] <KoltMaesta> Hi! Approximately a week after I upgraded to 11.10 my wifi sometimes keeps connecting and nothing happens. The network is still ok, I just wont connect, and it takes forever. Most of the time it works great. What can cause this annoying issue?
[17:41] <dury> Seveas: where are you located, then?
[17:41] <_ikke_> Is it me, or is the Ubuntu softwarecentrum in 11.10 very slow?
[17:41] <Kiten> DrPenguin, well my arch might be kinda screwy ;p
[17:42] <Seveas> KoltMaesta, look at /var/log/syslog, all changes to wifi state are logged there
[17:42] <DrPenguin> Kiten: I think so..
[17:42] <Seveas> dury, europe
[17:42] <dury> Seveas: me too
[17:42] <Seveas> then it's still 2011 for you :)
[17:42] <dury> Seveas: but where abouts?
[17:42] <chrislsp> Hello, anyone used before Remastersys or Reconstructor for creating your own LiveCD with preinstalled programs,settings etc ?
[17:43] <Seveas> !anyone | chrislsp
[17:44] <dury> what's /var/log/syslog for, then?
[17:44] <Seveas> dury, system logs
[17:44] <dury> Seveas: yeah
[17:44] <windwhinny> log system logs
[17:44] <chrislsp> Does ANYBODY have so much little brain to understand that i need an opinion?
[17:44] <KoltMaesta> Seveas: There are a lot of "... [    1.748118] [Firmware Bug]: ACPI: BIOS _OSI(Linux) query ignored" lines
[17:44] <dury> what they do Seveas
[17:45] <DrPenguin> chrislsp: and do you not have a big enough brain to understand that we dont give opinions based on what we echoed you from the bot?
[17:45] <usuario> o
[17:45] <Seveas> KoltMaesta, that has nothing to do with wifi fortunately. You're looking for lines that contain NetworkManager
[17:45] <usuario> n
[17:45] <usuario>
[17:46] <taylor> hey
[17:46] <Seveas> hello taylor
[17:46] <chrislsp> I just want an opinion based on your experience
[17:46] <dury> what's system log do, then?
[17:46] <taylor> ok so i got a question im sure somebody can answer pretty quick
[17:46] <Seveas> dury, look at the file and you'll see
[17:47] <greedo> what is the default HTTP authentication for icecast?
[17:47] <chrislsp> why are there so many "rules" and "must behave that way" to get a simple answer to a simple question?
[17:48] <spoq> yea
[17:48] <spoq> dont obey the rules
[17:48] <spoq> break `em !
[17:48] <hiexpo> hi guys i am having a problem with postgres when i am setting it up and enter this command /usr/local/pgsql/bin/postmaster -D /usr/local/pgsql/data >logfile 2>&1 & i get  -su: cannot create logfile: Permission denied what am i doing wrong
[17:48] <taylor> when i put my exe file into terminal and write wine behind it and everything and hit enter, 90 percent of the time it says it cannot find the exe file either know the pathway is correct. what can i do to fix this??
[17:48] <spoq> tried running in root?
[17:49] <taylor> no, whats that?
[17:49] <DrPenguin> taylor: is the path wrong taylor? where is the exe in respect to your current directory
[17:49] <Seveas> taylor, you need to put 'wine ' *before* the path to the exe file. Wine is the thing you run, the exe file is an argument
[17:49] <taylor> yeah i know you get rid of the 's and put wine and a space
[17:49] <taylor> before
[17:49] <dury> it shows those lines when you open the Terminal or no, Seveas?
[17:50] <taylor> the file is exactly where it should be in the directory
[17:50] <DrPenguin> taylor: thats not what I asked
[17:50] <Seveas> taylor, and you also used correct capitalization? e.g. NOTEPAD.exe isn't the same as notepad.exe
[17:51] <taylor> didnt have to, i learned you can drag the .exe file into the terminal and it puts it there for you, i have installed quite a few programms this way, but half the time it cannot find the exe, which is why i am confused
[17:51] <taylor> im very new to ubuntu
[17:52] <DrPenguin> taylor: that really doesnt make sense.. dragging a file into terminal should complete its absolute path.. have you just tried to manually type in its absolute path?
[17:52] <Seveas> are you dragging it from the Desktop?
[17:52] <windwhinny> if the exe file is in the current directory, try to put "./" before the filename, like "./notepad.exe"
[17:53] <taylor> let me try, and i have tried to drag it from the desk top and from the file were it is
[17:53] <Seveas> when it fails, make a screenshot that also shows the file that you dragged. That'll help is see what's going wrong.
[17:54] <taylor> k
[17:59] <gmachine_24> I feel like a fool but I have an Ubuntu install and either the password file has been corrupted or I actually forgot the password. Is there anything I can do?
[17:59] <cypher-neo> gmachine_24, Yeah, one sec
[17:59] <Seveas> yes, you can boot into recovery mode
[17:59] <Seveas> and reset the passwords
[17:59] <crux00> Soooo... I had a botched upgrade to 11.10, and I've mostly made it work. But now every package is listed twice in aptitude. Is there a fix for that?
[18:00] <gmachine_24> Seveas, I'm assuming I need no password to do that?
[18:00] <cypher-neo> gmachine_24, Here's one method to reset your Ubuntu password.
[18:00] <Seveas> gmachine_24, correct, recover mode should let you do this without password
[18:00] <Seveas> crux00, how the hell did that happen? :)
[18:00] <jiohdi> what is the point of having a password if it is that easy to defeat?
[18:00] <zer0rez> my google-foo is failing, any links or info on how to install 11.10 onto a machine w/ a 4GB SSD(old eeePC 900a)
[18:01] <gmachine_24> cypher-neo, I am listening
[18:01] <Seveas> jiohdi, this requires physical access to the machine. Physical access means you're screwed anyway
[18:01] <crux00> Seavas: some video driver bug / something to do with hibernate, plus me starting the upgrade from a session that had resumed from hibernation [18:01] <Seveas> jiohdi, also, this doesn't decrypt encrypted homedirs. Those are gone for good
[18:02] <Seveas> crux00, can you run this for me and pastebin the output: dpkg -l | cat; dpkg --get-selections
[18:02] <jiohdi> Seveas, if you set them as encrypted right?
[18:02] <Seveas> jiohdi, correct
[18:02] <gmachine_24> thanks for your help. I'll research resetting passwords..... HNY everyone
[18:03] <spao> hgkj
[18:03] <Seveas> spao, try english :)
[18:03] <MN--> hey anyone know a channel to discuss computer components?
[18:03] <cypher-neo> gmachine_24, #1 - Boot from a Live CD. #2 - Mount the computer hard drive. When the Nautilus window pops up, close it. #3 - Open Terminal. Type "gksudo nautilus" #4 - Go to the mounted drive and find the /etc/ directory. #5 - Scroll past all the directories until you get to the shadow text file. Create a .bak of this file, just in case. #6 - Edit the shadow file in gedit. #7 - Scroll down to the username in question and replace
[18:03] <cypher-neo> the encrypted password with "U6aMy0wojraho"
[18:03] <crux00> Seveas: here ya go! http://paste.ubuntu.com/789020/
[18:04] <Seveas> cypher-neo, I've scripted that up in the past: https://raw.github.com/seveas/hacks/master/reset_passwords
[18:04] <DrPenguin> MN--: we arent a hub for you to find where to go.. but there should be a command your irc client can do to help you find it
[18:04] <cypher-neo> That will completely reset the password... and he left
[18:04] <cypher-neo> Seveas, Grr! he says he's listening... so i start typing. And he leaves before I press Enter!
[18:04] <Seveas> crux00, ok, at least apt doesn't see them twice, must be an aptitude cache
[18:05] <edbian> MN--, #hardware
[18:05] <edbian> MN--, or you can just PM me
[18:05] <Seveas> crux00, try rm ~/.aptitude/cache
[18:05] <crux00> Seveas: Aha, and that's an easy rm away. Much easier to fix than the whole stupid /var/run business.
[18:06] <Seveas> crux00, ah, /run vs /var/run, that's a nice snafu :)
[18:06] <edbian> Seveas, aptitude  and apt-get cache are in /etc/apt/  ?
[18:06] <taylor> ok how do i show you the pics
[18:06] <Aliv3> how update to 12.04
[18:06] <MN--> edbian thanks
[18:06] <Seveas> taylor, upload them to imagebin.com
[18:06] <taylor> ok
[18:06] <cypher-neo> Aliv3, Check out the topic in #ubuntu+1
[18:06] <Aliv3> ty
[18:06] <Seveas> edbian, aptitude has its own cache in ~/.aptitude. The general apt cache is in /var/cache/apt and /var/lib/apt
[18:06] <urlin2u> Aliv3, 12.04 is not released yet.
[18:07] <Seveas> oi LjL, your monkey quit
[18:07] <edbian> Seveas, ahh, yes
[18:07] <crux00> Seveas: since you're being A+++ helpful would ask questions again -- aptitude is having another issue as well, namely that it wants to remove pretty much everything (libc6 and all deps) to deal with some conflict or another. Is there an easy way to get to the bottom of that one?
[18:08] <cypher-neo> crux00, I prefer using Ubuntu Tweak for things like that, imho.
[18:08] <Seveas> crux00, try apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade. If they complain, pastebin output
[18:08] <Seveas> cypher-neo, neh, his system is in a bit of a bodged state. Best to stick to low level tools :)
[18:08] <yumbo> crux00, when something wants libc6 removed you should be very careful (I actually got it removed once, couldnt execute any command anymore)
[18:09] <cypher-neo> Seveas, Ahh, in that case, never mind what I said crux00
[18:09] <crux00> "a bit" -- hah. ;} Well, it's much better now, so maybe it qualifies as "a bit".
[18:09] <Seveas> yeah, you don't really want to remove libc6
[18:09] <yumbo> crux00, what does "sudo apt-get install -f" give?
[18:09] <Seveas> crux00, can you also try these, just so I know your system is at least sorta healthy: dpkg --configure -a ; apt-get -f install
[18:10] <crux00> Interestingly, aptitude still shows things twice; and one of the libc6 is marked "installed" and peachy; the *other* one it wants to nuke because of deps. Maybe it has another cache in /var somewhere?
[18:11] <Seveas> crux00, hmm, that does sound screwy
[18:11] <cypher-neo> crux00, Out of morbid curiousity, what are the deps on the nuke libc6? Are they the same as the clone libc6?
[18:12] <crux00> Seveas: dpkg --configure -a looks to be a noop (I'd done a lot of --reconfigure upon the first few boots)
[18:12] <taylor> cool site, alright the pictures are up
[18:12] <crux00> cypher-neo: Eyeballing it, they seem the same.
[18:13] <cypher-neo> Weird...
[18:13] <Seveas> crux00, /var/lib/aptitude/pkgstates
[18:13] <crux00> (also; apt-get -f install = 0 )
[18:13] <riktking> hi i have issues with my SD card reader, it is not seeing an SD card
[18:13] <Seveas> and there's also /var/lib/dpkg/status, but that one seems ok
[18:14] <crux00> Seveas: Maybe I should 'apt-get purge aptitude; apt-get install aptitude'...
[18:14] <cypher-neo> crux00, Be careful if it tries to purge other programs along with aptitude as deps!
[18:15] <Seveas> crux00, sed -n -e 's/^Package: //p' /var/lib/aptitude/pkgstates  | sort | uniq -c | grep -v '^ \+1 '
[18:15] <crux00> <--- mv /var/lib/aptitude/pkgstates = things seem much happier.
[18:15] <taylor> just let me know when you have a chance
[18:15] <Seveas> if that monster gives no output the file is ok
[18:15] <Seveas> ah, you got rid of it already, fair enough :-0
[18:15] <riktking> my laptop can see the reader, but no card in thereader
[18:15] <yumbo> 'apt-get purge aptitude; apt-get install aptitude'...
[18:15] <yumbo> that sound like a not-so-good idea
[18:15] <Seveas> I wouldn't purge aptitude, no
[18:16] <Seveas> taylor, can you give us a link to the picture?
[18:16] <crux00> ;} So that's two votes against "nuke it from orbit"
[18:16] <taylor> yes sir
[18:16] <taylor> i put two, one before i pressed enter and one after
[18:16] <crux00> Okie dokie
[18:16] <Seveas> then we need links to both :)
[18:16] <cypher-neo> crux00, I would cancel the nuke unless the enemy gets entrenched. ;}
[18:17] <yumbo> crux00, I have synaptic installed, it has a feature to display broken packages
[18:17] <yumbo> maybe worth a try
[18:17] <Seveas> yumbo, that'll be useless if the problem is aptitude ;)
[18:17] <taylor> wont let me paste
[18:17] <crux00> <--- aptitude *might* be the sole issue.
[18:18] <yumbo> Seveas, ah
[18:18] <Guest55079> on chrome where the clear history and cookies
[18:18] <crux00> Removed /var/lib/aptitude/pkgstatus .... First run: aptitude is happy. After an update and/or a restart of aptitude: Everything shows up twice, and it wants to delete the world again.
[18:18] <Seveas> taylor, alternatively just e-mail me the pictures<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[18:18] <crux00> s/status/states
[18:18] <yumbo> Guest55079, http://www.thepicky.com/images/2009/03/chrome-clearing-browsing-data.jpg
[18:19] <Guest55079> ty yumbo
[18:19] <crux00> Confirmed: it's updating that introduces every package a 2nd time and makes aptitude think there's conflicts everywhere.
[18:19] <Seveas> crux00, can you run this one: sed -n -e 's/^Package: //p' /var/lib/dpkg/status  | sort | uniq -c | grep -v '^ \+1 '
[18:20] <cypher-neo> Seveas, This is a dirty hack, but if removing /var/lib/aptitude/pkgstatus is a solution, we could mod his .bashrc file so it's done automatically every time he loads CLI.
[18:20] <Seveas> that'll check for duplicates in /var/lib/pkg/status
[18:20] <Seveas> cypher-neo, eww no, let's fix the actual problem instead
[18:20] <crux00> http://paste.ubuntu.com/789032/ <--- looks like lots of 'em
[18:20] <taylor> im havein issues with my email at the moment, it thinks im not me:(
[18:20] <cypher-neo> Seveas, Fixing the actual problem is definitely preferred! I'm just saying...
[18:20] <Seveas> crux00, ok, that's a problem
[18:21] <cypher-neo> Seveas, Also, I'm a bit giddy for running my first .bashrc hack.
[18:21] <Seveas> hehe
[18:21] <yumbo> crux00, which ubuntu version?
[18:21] <Seveas> crux00, give me a few minutes, I know the solution to this, just need to dig a bit
[18:21] <linux_noob> happynew year guys
[18:21] <crux00> yumbo: Nominally, 11.10. ;) But there was a nice hard crash halfway through installing.
[18:22] <yumbo> crux00, x86 or x64 ?
[18:22] <linux_noob> guys can anybody tell me is it possible to make a 3d model in ubuntu?
[18:22] <yumbo> linux_noob, check out the Blender project
[18:22] <yumbo> linux_noob, http://www.blender.org/
[18:22] <crux00> Yumbo: amd64
[18:22] <taylor> blender is beast
[18:23] <yumbo> crux00, http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/aptitude/aptitude_0.6.4-1ubuntu2_amd64.deb
[18:23] <yumbo> you can download that and install it using dpkg
[18:23] <yumbo> maybe it helps
[18:23] <linux_noob> tnx yumbo ur the best...
[18:24] <crux00> yumbo: It might, but it looks like the problem is deeper than aptitude
[18:25] <Seveas> crux00, ok, there are a few options. But first of all make a backup of /var/lib/dpkg/status
[18:25] <yumbo> crux00, it can't do much harm
[18:25] <Seveas> once you've done that, run this: apt-get install moreutils
[18:25] <taylor> cant paste the link and cant send through email cuz my email is jacked up, they are right there on the site though
[18:25] <Seveas> (oh, and I'm going to assume you run all this as root :))
[18:26] <Seveas> crux00, when moreutils is installed (and only then), run this: dpkg --get-selections | sponge | dpkg --set-selections
[18:26] <Seveas> then run that last sed command again
[18:26] <phoenix_firebrd> happy newyear to all
[18:26] <taylor> yeah happy newyear
[18:27] <crux00> Seveas: sponge = neat tool to have. Wish I knew about it before!
[18:28] <Seveas> moreutils is full of tools like that :)
[18:29] <linux_noob> guys is it possible to convert text in audio with high quality?
[18:29] <crux00> Seveas: command, executed. Unfortunately /var/lib/dpkg/status is still turning up dupes by your sed | sort | uniq | grep pipeline.
[18:29] <Seveas> rats
[18:29] <Seveas> ok, now it gets hairy.
[18:29] <linux_noob> im trying to plug in audio to my game
[18:30] <Seveas> there are backups of that file in /var/backups
[18:30] <linux_noob> guys is it possible to convert text in audio with high quality?
[18:30] <linux_noob> * pawan_pawar (~pawan_pa
[18:30] <Seveas> find one that doesn't contain dupes, but *don't* move it into place yet
[18:30] <Seveas> first do: dpkg --get-selections > my_selections
[18:30] <linux_noob> guys is it possible to convert text in audio with high quality?
[18:30] <Seveas> then move the backup into place
[18:30] <DrPenguin> !patience | linux_noob
[18:30] <Seveas> then run dpkg --set-selections < my_selections
[18:30] <Seveas> and pray for the best
[18:31] <linux_noob> im sorry..
[18:31] <linux_noob> tnx
[18:31] <Oer> linux_noob, try ubuntu-studio
[18:31] <taylor> lol there tried to help us all at the same time, gatta give em space
[18:31] <Seveas> should that work, it's time for another run of apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:31] <crux00> Seveas: I'm spending a second or two reading the weird status file, first, & diffing the duped entries...
[18:32] <linux_noob> thanks
[18:32] <Seveas> crux00, sure, makes sense
[18:32] <Seveas> linux_noob, you may want to look at festival
[18:32] <crux00> Seveas: aha!
[18:32] <DashleShy> Hello!
[18:33] <crux00> There's one entry for amd64, and another for i386.
[18:33] <cosmic> HELP !
[18:33] <cosmic> E: The package super-boot-manager needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[18:33] <DashleShy> Can I ask an question?
[18:33] <Seveas> oh, you're doing the dual-arch trick. I did *not* expect that !
[18:33] <SunTsu> !ask | DashleShy
[18:33] <BluesKaj> DashleShy, ask away
[18:33] <Seveas> DashleShy, of course
[18:33] <xangua> !details | cosmic
[18:33] <crux00> ... If I am, it was unintentional. :}
[18:33] <SunTsu> DashleShy: btw. you just asked a question, so it looks like yu can
[18:33] <crux00> Though I do recall reading something about that in the 11.10 changelog.
[18:34] <SunTsu> you
[18:34] <Seveas> cosmic, that's not something provided by Ubuntu, so find the .deb file and dpkg -i that
[18:34] <DashleShy> I want to install, but not live CD, Ubuntu 11.04 onto a flash drive. I did remember doing so, but when I do it tells me I don't have 4.4GB of space...which I don't
[18:35] <Dolev> the flash is ntfs?
[18:35] <DashleShy> I can do it on a hard drive temporarily with more then enough space, but I get a message asking me to define the root filesystem.
[18:35] <cosmic> Seveas: how?
[18:35] <Seveas> cosmic, however you installed it in the first place.
[18:35] <DashleShy> It was originally NTFS, I do think, but it's fat32 at the moment.
[18:36] <DashleShy> a 4GB and a 2GB, I want to live session the 2GB so I can install it onto the 4GB.
[18:36] <crux00> Seveas: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptitude/+bug/831768 <-- this or something like it (there's a handful)
[18:36] <pythonirc101> I tried apt-get linux-headers-`uname -r` and it gives me "Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.0.0-14-server (x86_64). Any ideas on how to fix this?
[18:36] <cosmic> Seveas: Yes
[18:37] <DashleShy> Being I want to install it, since I lose my changes after power-off/removal. I did it before but I can't quite remember how.
[18:37] <Seveas> crux00, ok, looks like I need to prod at multiarch a bit too, that's lacking in my knowledge :)
[18:38] <Oer> crux00, maybe that is the reason aptitude was removed from 11.10 ?
[18:38] <crux00> Seveas: Indeed... Looking at that bug, I might actually be just fine, albiet with a severely confused/unusable aptitude.
[18:38] <crux00> (And I'm not noticing any other instability, so ... fingers crossed)
[18:39] <DashleShy> Basically long story short, I want to perform a full Ubuntu 11.04 install to a 4GB flash drive.
[18:40] <cypher-neo> crux00, That's a little dramatic... especially considering I just installed aptitude 20 minutes ago.
[18:40] <Seveas> cypher-neo, but you're probably not using a multi-arch system
[18:40] <crux00> cypher-neo: I dunno, it wants to remove libc. ;}
[18:40] <cypher-neo> DashleShy, Insert your flash drive and run "usb-creator-gtk" from the Terminal
[18:40] <Oer> !minimal | DashleShy
[18:40] <DashleShy> Not really on ubuntu right now, but I'll keep that in mind.
[18:41] <DashleShy> That's it, it might have been the alternate CD I used.
[18:41] <DashleShy> Keep in mind I do not want to live session it, as if to perform like a normal hard drive installation.
[18:42] <DashleShy> Anyway I can do it with windows while I'm on here? Wubi doesn't really help.
[18:42] <taylor> can somebody give me a quick hand, i dont mean to be a bother i just dont have very long is all
[18:42] <taylor> can somebody give me a quick hand, i dont mean to be a bother i just dont have very long is all
[18:42] <SudoFox> @DashleShy PM.
[18:42] <crux00> I ought to stop procrastinating-my-real-work...
[18:43] <cypher-neo> DashleShy, It will perform much like a Live Cd if you do it using "usb-creator-gtk" but you can set it up so it also functions like a seperate desktop with filespace up to the limit of the USB drive (probably about 3.1Gb's after install.
[18:43] <BluesKaj> taylor, describe your problem pls
[18:43] <crux00> Seveas: thanks a huge heap of stuff for helping to troubleshoot. :)
[18:43] <crux00> & others, too.
[18:43] <aritra> wishing you happy new year :)
[18:43] <DashleShy> So it won't ask me to have at least 4.4GB of space?
[18:43] <cypher-neo> Seveas, Props to the master!
[18:43] <Aliv3> you know how say you install mythbuntu layer ontop of ubuntu you see mythbuntu splash and all that, how do i make ubuntu the main one again
[18:43] <dr_willis> !plymouth | Aliv3
[18:46] <taylor_> hey can somebody give me a quick hand please
[18:46] <DrPenguin> !ask | taylor_
[18:46] <BluesKaj> taylor, describe your problem pls
[18:47] <SudoFox> What the heck?
[18:47] <SudoFox> What's with al of the joins and quits?
[18:47] <DrPenguin> its irc, you will get used to it
[18:47] <dr_willis> I dont see any SudoFox  :)
[18:47] <dr_willis> my irc client hides them
[18:47] <SudoFox> Lucky.
[18:47] <taylor_> i drag my exe file into the terminal and do the necessary steps to run the exe useing wine, and half the time it says it cannot find the exe file im trying to run, when i know the method works and the pathway is correct, i have screenshots if it would help
[18:48] <dr_willis> 'any decent irc client should have that setting
[18:48] <DrPenguin> taylor_: we told you to post those screen shots.. quit wasting time and post them already
[18:48] <SudoFox> @taylor_ First, nix is case sensitive...
[18:48] <taylor_> i posted them already
[18:48] <dr_willis> taylor_:  Case Is imporntant in linux. and you could just use the Tab completion feature and not do that drag/drop.
[18:48] <Seveas> ello?
[18:48] <SudoFox> Second, you have to mark it executable,
[18:48] <Seveas> What the hell just happened?
[18:49] <bastidrazor> Seveas: you've made it back from -unregged
[18:49] <DrPenguin> taylor_: post them again
[18:49] <taylor_> dont know what the tab complition is
[18:49] <dr_willis> !tab | taylor_
[18:49] <Seveas> ah, my bouncer got confused. Carry on :)
[18:49] <DJones> -/lastlog Seveas
[18:49] <dr_willis> taylor_:  do  wine /path/to/<tab> and it will auto fill in stuff
[18:49] <fuho> Hi I can't find any program when I hit Meta or click on Dash home, also when dash opens there are only 3 icons at the bottom (home, files, media) how can I get access to programs back?
[18:49] <DJones> Seveas: Ping timeout
[18:49] <taylor_> ok
[18:49] <bastidrazor> Seveas: i was there too. i just made it back as well
[18:50] <taylor_> either way the path is going to be the same, and the issue is it sayin it cant find the exe when i know the path is correct
[18:51] <fuho> I only recently reinstalled to 11.10 adn am still strugling with the new UI
[18:51] <taylor_> reposted screenshots
[18:51] <DrPenguin> taylor_: …. where? we kinda need a way to access them
[18:51] <bastidrazor> taylor_: you have to give the URL or we can't see them..
[18:52] <dr_willis> taylor_:  i would have to say the path is incorrect in some way or another. cd to the directory where the exe is at and do wine ./foo.exe to verify the path is not an issue
[18:52] <fuho> Also Ubuntu Softweare center wont load.
[18:52] <taylor_> http://imagebin.org/index.php
[18:53] <taylor_> its taylor in the top right corner
[18:53] <taylor_> have a before and after
[18:53] <DrPenguin> taylor_: dude, you covered up half the terminal line with your stupid window
[18:53] <taylor_> no i didnt "dude" it continues where you see it
[18:54] <Seveas> hmm, imagebin doesn't load for me
[18:54] <SudoFox> Hey, does anyone know if the persistence layer gets installed when you install Ubuntu?
[18:54] <overclucker> taylor_: I thought that dragndrop would do it for you, but try wrapping that in ' '
[18:54] <Seveas> SudoFox, persistence layer?
[18:54] <DrPenguin> taylor_: yeah, did you ever try manually typing in the path?
[18:54] <taylor_> ok i was told to delete those but ill give it a try
[18:54] <dr_willis> SudoFox:  if you do a normal install.. no.
[18:54] <taylor_> no
[18:54] <akpk> issue with installing php-pear
[18:55] <DrPenguin> do it then?
[18:55] <taylor_> i figured it would be the same so i didnt think to
[18:55] <Solved> What would the command be to open a text box (like an error message) that had a personalized message in it?
[18:55] <overclucker> taylor_: another optio nis to excape all those darned spaces like: '\ '
[18:56] <DrPenguin> Solved: there should be something cute thats included with X.. I think dialog is one?
[18:56] <Seveas> Solved, zenity
[18:56] <Solved> Seveas: like, zenity hello
[18:56] <Solved> ?
[18:57] <fuho> Ok I got another question: when creating partition for /boot a / (except for /home) how big do you make them? I made 5GB for boot but it seems like waste
[18:57] <bastidrazor> taylor_: you have to escape those spaces.
[18:57] <Seveas> zenity --error --text "Oops, I did it again"
[18:57] <fuho> adn 50GB for / without /home
[18:57] <Seveas> Solved, for more info, try: zenity --help
[18:57] <dr_willis> fuho:  depends on what you do with /boot/  use of /boot is optional these days.
[18:57] <taylor_> which spaces
[18:57] <DrPenguin> taylor_: in the file name
[18:57] <dr_willis> fuho:  i got /boot several gb in size beause i keep a few ISO files in it that grub2 can boot. 1gb should be plenty for most people
[18:58] <dr_willis> Spaces in file names can be really... annoying. :)
[18:58] <taylor_> and tried typing in manually same thing happened, then wrapped in 's and it said invalid handle
[18:58] <fuho> dr_willis: I just wanted to make sure I will always be able to boot
[18:58] <bastidrazor> taylor_: 18\ wos\.. etc
[18:58] <dr_willis> fuho:  thats not a guarentee :) most people seem to manage to mess up the grub mbr. not files in /boot/
[18:58] <taylor_> oh ok, let me see
[18:58] <fuho> dr_willis: In case I went over the top with logs or something :)
[19:00] <taylor_> nope, still did not work, it just doenst make sense to me, im not sure what im doing
[19:00] <Solved> Seveas: What option would you use if you wanted one that was very similar to the error message, except without the error symbol
[19:00] <fuho> And 50GBs for / should be enough right? I will have an extra partition just for home
[19:00] <SudoFox> (repeats). Hey, does anyone know if the persistence layer gets installed when you install Ubuntu?
[19:00] <overclucker> taylor_: type out the path to use here
[19:01] <fuho> Is there a way to reinitialize Dash home? Mine doesnt show programs...
[19:01] <taylor> home/brandon/.miro/movies/18woset2
[19:01] <bastidrazor> taylor that isn't what i told you to do.
[19:01] <DrPenguin> taylor: thats not a correct path
[19:02] <overclucker> taylor_: the full original path that dragndrop gave you
[19:02] <Seveas> Solved, --info
[19:02] <DrPenguin> it should be wine /home/brandom/.miro/movies/18\ wos\ et2/18\ Wheels\ of\ Steel\ Extreme\ Trucker\ 2_setup_.exe
[19:03] <overclucker> What surprises me is that drag'n drop isn't wrapping it in single quotes
[19:03] <DrPenguin> overclucker: that surprises me too.. there must be something wrong with his shell
[19:05] <taylor> other file got deleted so i am giveing you the path it gave me when i drag and drop the backup i made
[19:05] <taylor_>  '/home/brandon/.miro/Movies/18 Wheels of Steel Extreme Trucker 2_setup_/bin/win_x86/extremetrucker.exe'
[19:06] <DrPenguin> taylor: well you would ned to tell us that wouldnt you?
[19:06] <Solved> Seveas: THanks a ton, workks perfect
[19:06] <taylor> i just did, that just now happened
[19:06] <taylor> thats why it took me so long to get the path on here
[19:06] <anvo> Empathy does not connect to Google Talk entering both my plain password or the new Application Specific Password!  What should I do...?
[19:06] <akpk> can i register my username in Xchat ??
[19:07] <SudoFox> I don't know, I just want to know if my persistence layer gets installed with Ubuntu if I do so,
[19:07] <bastidrazor> !register | akpk
[19:07] <doritoDan> Is there a Safari port or counterpart for Ubuntu?
[19:07] <SudoFox> /msg Nickserv help
[19:07] <overclucker> taylor_: does wine '/home/brandon/.miro/Movies/18 Wheels of Steel Extreme Trucker 2_setup_/bin/win_x86/extremetrucker.exe' not work?
[19:07] <Swamoy> Happy New Year....
[19:08] <doritoDan> Anyone?
[19:08] <DrPenguin> doritoDan: I highly doubt it.. Safari is junk anyway
[19:08] <doritoDan> Why is Safari junk
[19:09] <DrPenguin> its just slow, id put it slightly better than Firefox. go with chromium
[19:09] <doritoDan> In my opinion, Safari renders webkit effects and behaviors better than most browsers.
[19:10] <doritoDan> Is there no Safari counterpart for Ubuntu at all?
[19:10] <doritoDan> Also, why should I go with Chromium instead of Chrome?
[19:10] <BluesKaj> DrPenguin, chromium is fine on small monitors , just don't try it on a large monitor from 10ft/3M away...the fonts on the tabs are too small to read for starters
[19:11] <akpk> ubottu: where to type all this ??
[19:11] <DrPenguin> BluesKaj: you can adjust that
[19:11] <BluesKaj> chromium is chrome for linux
[19:11] <DrPenguin> BluesKaj: not that that even matters, that isnt related to this conversation
[19:11] <Oer> doritoDan, there is no native Safari for linux, so safari in wine is just sad
[19:11] <rypervenche> doritoDan: Because Google tracks your data in Chrome, plus chromium is easier to install.
[19:11] <bastidrazor> akpk: in this window.. the /msg or /join tells freenode to interpret that as a command
[19:12] <urlin2u> !ot
[19:12] <taylor_> no this is what come up     {    err:mscoree:expect_no_runtimes Process exited with a Mono runtime loaded.
[19:12] <doritoDan> How does Google track my data in Chrome?
[19:12] <doritoDan> Also, is there no Safari counterpart for Chrome?
[19:12] <overclucker> doritoDan: try Konqueror, it uses Webkit
[19:12] <BluesKaj> DrPenguin, how? ..it may be related , depending on his monitor ...an observation to keep in mind
[19:12] <doritoDan> Ok.
[19:12] <doritoDan> Thanks pal.
[19:12] <bastidrazor> taylor: that is a wine issue. #winehq can help with that.
[19:12] <bastidrazor> taylor: or have you looked at the appdb?
[19:12] <bastidrazor> !appdb | taylor_
[19:12] <DrPenguin> BluesKaj: because hes asking if theres a safari counterpart for ubuntu. Hes not asking whats a good browser to use on a huge monitor from a distance
[19:13] <taylor> yeah i looked it up and its good
[19:13] <BluesKaj> there is no safari equivalent or linux clone doritoDan
[19:13] <DrPenguin> taylor: that looks like your missing some dependency (or it atleast cant find it)
[19:13] <doritoDan> ok
[19:13] <doritoDan> thanks
[19:13] <ssta> anyone have a procmail recipe to pipe each message to a separate (uniquely named) file?
[19:14] <taylor> what do you mean
[19:14] <DrPenguin> taylor: but like they said, this isnt an ubuntu issue.. so now its ot
[19:14] <SudoFox> Chrome and Chromium work on ubuntu.
[19:14] <SudoFox> Or linux.
[19:15] <doritoDan> I'll get both
[19:15] <taylor> ok thank you so much for the help, i know i didnt make it easy for you, sorry
[19:15] <doritoDan> What are the most popular browsers on Ubuntu?
[19:15] <SudoFox> There are debian packages, I'm not sure about other pkg managers, though.
[19:15] <doritoDan> I'm guessing Firefox?
[19:15] <SudoFox> @doritoDan Internet Exploder.
[19:15] <BluesKaj> chromium is linux chrome , altho chrome does run on linux
[19:15] <BluesKaj> SudoFox, @ isn't required on irc
[19:16] <fuho> Chromium is the original opensource projects
[19:16] <geoffmcc> Chrome does run on Linux, but i wasn't happy with performance. chromium works way better, imo
[19:16] <SudoFox> @ catches attention better, though.
[19:16] <fuho> Chrome is Google branded version which is dowstream a bit
[19:16] <doritoDan> Doesn't Chrome and Chromium differ in functionality?
[19:16] <fuho> chromium has the newest features
[19:16] <SudoFox> If you have a mainly text-based client.
[19:16] <doritoDan> don't*
[19:17] <fuho> doritoDan: You can install chromium daily which has the latest features
[19:17] <BluesKaj> SudoFox, but others don'tso if they have their nickname set to highlight in their client , that's all that's required
[19:17] <fuho> doritoDan: like for example multiple gmail profiles
[19:17] <doritoDan> But isn't Chrome closed-source and developed by Google
[19:17] <doritoDan> while Chromium isn't?
[19:18] <geoffmcc> doritoDan: correct
[19:18] <SudoFox> Yeah, but I find it's convienent for the other. Besides, why check what client their using everytime you talk to someone
[19:18] <doritoDan> So who's developing Chromium?
[19:18] <machrider> anyone know what 'groot' should point to in menu.lst?  boot partition or the linux root partition?
[19:18] <SudoFox> People.
[19:18] <BluesKaj> doritoDan,  there isn't alot of diff , if you like chrome better then use it
[19:18] <derp|party> doritoDan, and a group of people at google work on Chrome
[19:18] <machrider> there's absolutely no documentaiton on the menu.lst magic used by update-grub...
[19:18] <doritoDan> What group is developing Chromium?
[19:18] <doritoDan> What's their name?