[09:29] <chesedo> o/
[13:36] <Kilos> QA: coffee on
[13:36]  * QA puts the kettle on
[13:40] <QA> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[15:12] <howziiiiit> hey all
[15:13] <howziiiiit> hey Kilos
[17:06] <chesedo> hi oom Kilos and howziiiiit
[17:06] <chesedo> oh hi Golynx too, is it your first time here?
[17:07] <howziiiiit> hey chesedo
[17:07] <chesedo> howzit howziiiiit?
[17:09] <Golynx> hi chesedo , no its my first time here in years. I was here alot in 2013 /14
[17:09] <howziiiiit> haha chesedo
[17:09] <howziiiiit> mine too Golynx
[17:09] <Golynx> Alot's been happening here since then, that's great :)
[17:09] <chesedo> welcome back then Golynx
[17:10] <chesedo> ok, welcome back to you too howziiiiit
[17:10] <chesedo> :D
[17:10] <Golynx> ah great howziiiiit
[17:10] <howziiiiit> thanks chesedo how goes the exam markings?
[17:10] <chesedo> you should have seen it 2 years ago....
[17:10] <Golynx> thanks chesedo
[17:10] <chesedo> we were buzing then
[17:11] <chesedo> howziiiiit: still waiting for a reply...
[17:11] <howziiiiit> that sucks chesedo
[17:11] <chesedo> the lecturer took 1 to 2 weeks to reply, am just hoping the director will be more responsive.
[17:12] <chesedo> Kilos inetpro superfly tumbleweed it seems that old friends are here that you guys might recognize
[17:13] <superfly> hi
[17:13] <howziiiiit> sup superfly
[17:13] <howziiiiit> holding thumbs chesedo
[17:13] <chesedo> ty howziiiiit
[18:31] <howziiiiit> anyone still here
[19:30] <Kilos> hi all
[19:31] <Kilos> sorry, not at home so no sound alerts


[00:35] <suez_> Hi! Ive just installed xubuntu and opted for encryption on my OS. when I first tried the password it didnt work, and I have no access to xubuntu
[00:36] <suez_> now I am on a terminal screen that says (initramfs)
[00:39] <suez_> It also says: BusyBox v1.21.1 (Ubuntu 1:1.21.0-1ubuntu1) built in shell (ash) Enter help for a list of built-in commands.
[00:41] <suez_> Could anyone help me to reinstall xubuntu from scratch, I have a bootable USB for that (which I have previously use) but now system is not booting from it at all.
[00:45] <gnumbknuts> Sorry to bang on about this issue. But.. reading this post from the creator of GMB, he states GMB does NOT support .wav(PCM) format, nor is there any intention to. http://forum.gmusicbrowser.org/index.php?topic=519.msg2474#msg2474  Rather disappointing. Shall be removing GMB and, then, install something else.
[00:45] <xangua> yes, you can install wathever you like
[00:48] <RudeViper> The developers really need to work on the installer - 2 MAJOR problems for newbies like me - 1st - it doesn't allow or even ask about dual booting if there are two seperate hard drives... I wanted it on two seperate drives but I want to have a choice at boot up as to which os I can use... For the new user having to set grub manually is a bit daunting - and 5 minutes on the screen save is too short -  some of us have different types
[00:49] <ObrienDave> that's what the "something else" option is for
[00:50] <RudeViper> to screensaver shuts off the monitor (tv/monitor using hdmi) and will not  reconnect right on boot - I realize that is probably a unique setup - but man is it aggrevating. The grub issue is really a problem though.
[00:51] <RudeViper> I used the something else option - it never asked about setting up grub - it just went straight through - so in order to boot to Xubuntu I have to physically stay at computer durring boot or reboot to catch bios and force to boot from 2nd drive
[00:52] <ObrienDave> or use grub-customizer to get it to boot the way you want
[00:52] <RudeViper> wow - point missed entirely
[00:52] <RudeViper> New users won't catch that.
[00:52] <ObrienDave> well, i guess, since i came in at the end of your rant
[00:54] <RudeViper> that was the whole rant - just really took me by surprise and then the screensaver bit - this is 3rd time today having to install cause I didn't catch something that I wasn't expecting - but I seriously doubt the installer had my type of monitor setup in mind.
[00:55] <gnumbknuts> RudeViper:  If you are setting up dual-boot system on separate HDD, you might be better off making the choice from the BIOS/UEFI setup boot-screen rather than allow GRUB to do it.
[00:56] <ObrienDave> actually, the installer is not designed for UEFI installations
[00:56] <RudeViper> why is that better? I've used dual boot before - 12.04 I think - main Ubuntu though
[00:56] <RudeViper> same computer - same monitor setup too -
[01:02] <gnumbknuts> If you are installing Windows on one HDD and Linux on the other, there is no need for GRUB + Linux to interfere with Windows. Keep the two operating systems well away from each other, you will save yourself a lot of headaches.
[01:04] <RudeViper> lol - reboot kicked me off - happened so fast I almost didn't even see the screen - was typing when it popped up
[03:51] <bynarie> running xubuntu 14.04, how can i easily have pc boot up to terminal instead of GUI, and have to use startx to go into the gui???
[04:14] <Unit193> !text | bynarie, then you can start the lightdm service.
[04:41] <bynarie> Unit193, thank you
[04:42] <Unit193> Sure.
[11:13] <cq-aux> I've just read about and run top and have found that I have zero zombies - I'm very pleased with this result
[11:13] <cq-aux> thank you xubuntu!
[11:14] <cq-aux> also flashplayer is updated really cool now - so I'm happy with that result
[11:14] <cq-aux> i WILL be back with a question though I'm very sorry
[13:15] <xubuntu789> how o i find out if ubuntu is my only os? Someone else put it on and I want winows back. Any help?
[13:16] <xubuntu789> obviously my "letter d" is stuck
[13:18] <ochosi> usually your boot manager (grub) should detect other OSes (like windows) and offer them at startup
[13:19] <ochosi> can't you just ask the person that installed x/ubuntu?
[13:59] <xubuntu94w> hello all
[14:00] <xubuntu94w> I am trying to install xubuntu, when I want to run live from USB, It loads up to a distroted screen...
[14:01] <xubuntu94w> However when I go to cmmand interfrace, it shows up as loaded.
[14:01] <xubuntu94w> any one can help ?
[14:02] <FFF> command interface?
[14:07] <FFF> checksum, if it is good, then press f2 when it show the boot log
[14:10] <xubuntu94w> when I press F2, it shows it loaded to live desktop.... however when it comes to GUI, Its fully distortion
[15:07] <keeper_1986> hi there, is anybody here using the microblog-plugin (twitter) for pidgin?
[15:08] <keeper_1986> i cannot log in with it. i got asked for the pin and i authorized the app. Pidgin however always replies with a "authentication error".
[15:34] <RudeViper> I am using an nvidia 550ti video card running on Xubuntu 14.04 with dual monitors... anytime I have to reboot or boot the machine I have to manually reconfigure the monitors... In the nvidia xorg configuration utility/software I seen an option to save the configuration - using the default location doesn't work - where should I but the config file and what should it be named for the system to pick it up on boot?
[15:56] <_1_xyz> hi
[18:21] <nofuxtogive> installed xubuntu on a pentium 3, everything worked well, was using a tp-link usb wireless adapter, no troubles. i did a reinstall of xubuntu later on with an asus n10 usb wireless adapter. it found the wireless adapter and it worked fine during install. but after installation was done and i rebooted, i can't access anything on the internet.
[18:30] <holstein> nofuxtogive: sounds like looking into the wifi adapter linux support is a "good" place to start
[18:30] <holstein> !wifi
[18:30] <holstein> i wouild look and see what chipset i have, and try  getting the machine online with another adapter or via wired connection to help make it easier
[18:31] <holstein> very occasionally, i have seen it be the case where, while running the live environment, something like the wifi would work fine, and, then, during the install, newer kernel versions or firmware versions are installed than what are running on the live iso, and the hardware would *not* work, as it just had on the live iso
[18:32] <holstein> for me, i just un-tick the box for "install updates while installing the OS" in hopes of getting the *identical* software versions that were running live.. *then*, i can test, and see that all is working, then upgrade and have a better idea of what could be causing the issue
[18:39] <nofuxtogive> ok
[18:39] <nofuxtogive> ive often had better luck with offbrand wireless adapters in linux than name brand for some reason
[18:40] <holstein> nofuxtogive: the "brand" is irrelevant.. if *any* "brand" wanted, they can promise and provide linux support.. if they dont, you do it by chipset, and see how the support is in linux
[18:41] <holstein> all the "brands" can change chipsets, during the manufacturing process, and, as long as they provide a driver for the OS or OS's that they promise, they are within the term of the agreement they promise.. this can make it challenging to have a list of "supported linux wifi devices"
[20:57] <nofuxtogive> so there was an icon in the upper right and i clicked Disable Networking. now the icon is gone and i cant find a way to reneable. I checked the settings panel under "Networks" and "Network connections" but nothing
[20:57] <nofuxtogive> once i disable networking, do i just have to reinstall xubuntu from scratch to get it working again?
[21:07] <nofuxtogive> n/m...i should just reinstall anyways
[21:31] <Pwnna> is there a way to "mirror" xfce4-panel across multiple monitors?
[21:31] <Pwnna> rather than just span?
[21:39] <enobus5000> Hello?
[21:43] <Pwnna> i'm also having some trouble with setting up two screens ontop of each other with 2 panels that occupies the top and the bottom of the screen
[22:51] <craigbass76> When my screen locks, I wake it back up and my mouse pointer is gone.  I can see stuff light up when I hover over it, but there's no pointer.  Is this something other folks have run across?


[21:03] <jdhore> do you guys know that all the firefox/xulrunner builds on ubuntu-mozilla-daily PPA are failing and all the chromium-daily PPA builds are failing?
[21:03] <jdhore> (and have been failing every day since the 21st)


[00:00] <marrusl> bjf, np.  thank you!
[03:24] <elpis> I want to ask question how to grep in order to get only the essid and signal level when i issue the iwlist command.
[03:27] <elpis> I want to ask question how to grep in order to get only the essid and signal level when i issue the iwlist command.
[05:18] <elpis> hello there can someone help me how to use grep in this problem given . http://pastebin.com/c01UX1B8
[05:37] <Eimann> iwlist wlan0 scan|egrep 'ESSID|Signal'|sed -e 's/.*"\(.*\)"[^"]*$/\1/' -e 's/.*=\(.*\)*$/\1/' -e 's/ dBm//'
[05:39] <FreezingCold> How does Debian and Ubuntu's kernel differ?
[06:16] <elpis> Eimann: thank you so much you are really great you save my day. BTW do you have any good tutorials on how you do it ?
[06:17] <Eimann> I used http://regex101.com/
[06:19] <elpis> Eimann: thank you so much
[08:11] <ppisati> moin
[08:55] <cking> yawn
[09:11]  * apw yawns hard
[09:11] <apw> smb is in network hell ...
[16:37]  * ppisati disappears for a bit
[17:12] <qengho> Hi all.  I have a thinkpad with a hard crash that leaves no log file and blinking caps-lock and I want to file a bug report in LP. I can reproduce easily. Is there a good way to capture the crash log? I think my photo of the console is terrible.
[17:12] <antarus> does sysrq work?
[17:14] <qengho> Hrm. Thinkpad funniness. I think I tried right-alt, SysRq, S-U-B and Fn + right-alt, SysRq, S-U-B and had to push the power button.  I can try it again.
[17:14] <qengho> antarus: If it does, what should I do?
[17:15] <qengho> (I have only this target machine here, so IRC debugging is iffy.)
[17:17] <qengho> IRC client on my phone. Rock. Okay, I can do that.
[17:17] <qengho> antarus: Okay, now what?
[17:19] <qengho> dang. hang and reboot that time.
[17:19] <psusi> isn't it time for the kernel meeting?
[17:28] <cking> psusi, it was cancelled
[17:29] <apw> psusi, we don't typically do them between release and UDS
[17:29] <apw> psusi, if you have something you want to bring up you are more likley to get a response here though as you would there
[17:30] <apw> qengho, if sysrq doesn't get you anything better, then filing a bug with the photo however bad it is is the right thing
[17:30] <apw> with little to go on we would then recommend you start looking for an older kernel which was ok
[17:31] <apw> as i assume this is a new issue to you
[17:38] <psusi> hrm... ok, I've just been wanting to float the idea of CONFIG_EXT[23]=n
[17:38] <apw> =n ok
[17:38] <psusi> with them disabled, the ext4 driver will take over and do a better job than the old code, and give a smaller kernel ;)
[17:39] <apw> so ... the right thing to do is probabally to add that to the vuds kernel session
[17:39] <psusi> ok
[17:39] <apw> as that is quite a big scarey sounding challenge, and we will want to get someone to do some real testing to confirm it works ok
[17:40] <apw> psusi, you would be free to come to the session and discuss or just put it on the adgenda, as i am happy to bring it up
[17:40] <psusi> will do
[17:40] <apw> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/core-1311-kernel
[17:40] <psusi> as an added benefit, the ext4 driver allows online resize on ext2 filesystems, which the ext2 driver can't handle
[17:40] <apw> that is the one it needs to be associated with
[17:40] <apw> psusi, heh ... don't frighten me
[17:41] <psusi> hehe
[17:41] <psusi> I've been trying to get gparted to handle online resize and in testing noticed that I had built my kernel with the ext2/3 drivers disabled so it worked, but on a stock kernel ext2 can't do the resize online
[17:42] <apw> psusi, include that nugget
[17:43] <psusi> so I shuold report a bug and link it to that bp?
[17:44] <apw> hmmmm, i guess that might make sense if you can be bothered
[18:00] <bjf> arges, are you able to verify bug 1208740?
[18:00] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1208740 in linux (Ubuntu Raring) "Large pastes into readline enabled programs causes breakage from kernels v2.6.31 onwards" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1208740
[18:04] <antarus> bjf: that is my teams bug
[18:04] <bjf> antarus, cool, can you verify ?
[18:04] <antarus> bjf: I can have marga verify
[18:04] <antarus> won't be until tomorrow pobably
[18:05] <bjf> antarus, ok, it has been waiting for verification for over a week
[18:08] <antarus> I sent her a note
[18:08] <bjf> antarus, thanks much
[18:14] <antarus> no worries, we are trying to be better about this sort of thing ;)
[18:14] <antarus> mostly we just need a launchpad bot that syncs launchpad with our internal bugtracker
[18:14] <antarus> because we mostly ignore launchpad ;p
[18:14] <bjf> antarus, i can relate to that
[18:20] <arges> bjf: looking
[18:20] <arges> bjf: i'll do this today
[18:21] <bjf> arges, thanks
[18:22] <xnox> apw: i think debian starting building with  CONFIG_EXT[23]=n, i'll check.
[18:22] <apw> xnox, thanks
[18:44] <nhm> I've got 13.04 and am trying to use the dwarf support in perf (ie "-g dwarf").  It appears that this isn't enabled in the 3.11.0-12-generic version of perf I have.  Was NO_LIBUNWIND set when that version of perf was built?
[18:45] <nhm> or maybe the build machine didn't have libunwind?
[18:48] <apw> likely the latter
[18:48] <apw> nhm, could you file a bug and put some details in it, and ping me the number, file it against linux
[18:52] <nhm> apw: sure, will do
[19:13] <nhm> apw: I'm afraid I' don't file launchpad bugs very often, so hopefully I did this right: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1248289
[19:13] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1248289 in linux (Ubuntu) "Missing libunwind support in perf" [Undecided,New]
[19:14] <bjf> nhm, looks good
[19:22] <qengho> apw: not necessarily new bug. It's new hardware.
[19:23] <qengho> referring to mine of 2 hours ago.  Just submitting now.


[09:31] <marcustomlinson> In case it is not noticed or noticed late: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1838748
[13:14] <rbasak> marcustomlinson: spam reports are usually supposed to be filed via https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion
[13:14] <rbasak> But the bug can be converted to a question, so hopefully a Launchpad admin will be able to do it now that you've mentioned it.
[13:15] <marcustomlinson> rbasak: doh, my mistake


[12:11] <ubotu> New bug: #128096 in update-manager (main) "package update-manager 1:0.66 failed to install/upgrade: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128096
[12:11] <ubotu> New bug: #128097 in bughelper (universe) "bughelper is missing the ability to query on assignee" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128097
[12:16] <ubotu> New bug: #128098 in xarchiver (main) "xarchiver crashes on opening .tar.gz file" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128098
[12:16] <ubotu> New bug: #128100 in mythtv (multiverse) "mythtv commercial removal" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128100
[12:16] <ubotu> New bug: #128101 in Ubuntu "minor error in upgrade instructions on http://www.xubuntu.org/get" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128101
[12:20] <ubotu> New bug: #128102 in elisa (universe) "[Sync request]  Sync elisa (0.1.7-2) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128102
[12:20] <ubotu> New bug: #128103 in gnome-nettool (main) "I am unable to get to my Microsaoft windows networjk it shows up but I do not have permission to view or open anything on the network" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128103
[12:30] <ubotu> New bug: #128105 in kwave (universe) "package kwave 0.7.7-3ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: Unterprozess post-installation script gab den Fehlerwert 1 zurck" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128105
[12:30] <ubotu> New bug: #128106 in nbio (universe) "[Remove]  Please remove nbio from gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128106
[12:30] <ubotu> New bug: #128107 in mwavem (multiverse) "package mwavem 2.0-2 failed to install/upgrade: Unterprozess post-installation script gab den Fehlerwert 1 zurck" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128107
[12:35] <ubotu> New bug: #128108 in nautilus-cd-burner (main) "'OK' button in dialoge box over laps cancel button in background window" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128108
[12:35] <ubotu> New bug: #128109 in autoprofile (universe) "[Remove]  Please remove autoprofile from gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128109
[12:46] <ubotu> New bug: #128110 in fmit (universe) "fmit segmentation fault on startup" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128110
[12:46] <ubotu> New bug: #128111 in sarge-support (universe) "[Remove]  Please remove sarge-support from gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128111
[01:01] <ubotu> New bug: #128112 in gnocatan-ltp-maps (universe) "[Remove]  Please remove gnocatan and gnocatan-ltp-maps from gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128112
[01:05] <ubotu> New bug: #128114 in dbus (main) "dbus fails to install session.conf and system.conf" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128114
[01:25] <ubotu> New bug: #128116 in network-manager (main) "NM loops indefinitely with `old_dev has_link? 1' when connecting to one particular network" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128116
[01:25] <ubotu> New bug: #128117 in gnome-panel (main) "Icons get mixed up in in non-Expanded panel" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128117
[01:41] <ubotu> New bug: #128119 in update-manager (main) "blad pakietu "update-manager"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128119
[01:58] <XtremeBain> RAOF: I'm going to link 128078 up to 125754 (azureus <IP_ADDRESS>)
[01:58] <RAOF> bug #128078
[01:58] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 128078 in azureus "Please merge azureus (<IP_ADDRESS>-1) from Debian (unstable)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128078
[01:58] <RAOF> bug #125754
[01:58] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 125754 in azureus "please-sync Azureus <IP_ADDRESS>-1 from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125754
[01:59] <RAOF> XtremeBain: Cool.
[02:00] <ubotu> New bug: #128122 in Ubuntu "audio is detected but does not work." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128122
[02:10] <ubotu> New bug: #128124 in deskbar-applet (main) "should depend on python-gnomecanvas" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128124
[02:35] <ubotu> New bug: #128128 in Ubuntu "no taskbars, panels when nVidia driver enabled though Desktop Effects." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128128
[02:40] <ubotu> New bug: #128131 in debconf (main) "frontend crashed with signal 7" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128131
[02:46] <ubotu> New bug: #128132 in debconf (main) "dpkg-preconfigure crashed with signal 7" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128132
[03:05] <ubotu> New bug: #128133 in gnome-rdp (universe) "Another user already logged on" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128133
[03:36] <ubotu> New bug: #128135 in openoffice.org (main) "OpenOffice crashes on SlideShow.Unable to use Slide Show" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128135
[03:36] <ubotu> New bug: #128137 in espeak (main) "Please upload new upstream release of espeak." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128137
[04:08] <kbrooks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/app-install-data-commercial/+bug/128138
[04:08] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 128138 in app-install-data-commercial "add/remove applications license agreement for opera is incorrect" [Undecided,New]
[04:08] <kbrooks> Please read and fix.
[04:08] <kbrooks> Thank you.
[04:15] <ubotu> New bug: #128138 in app-install-data-commercial (main) "add/remove applications license agreement for opera is incorrect" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128138
[04:24] <bdmurray> kbrooks: The license agreement comes up when you first run the software doesn't it?
[04:26] <XtremeBain> I can't get opera to install here through add/remove to find out
[04:27] <bdmurray> XtremeBain: What are you running? and do you have app-install-data-commercial installed?
[04:29] <Admiral_laptop> XtremeBain: iirc, opera is in canonical's repository
[04:29] <XtremeBain> yeah I installed it, and opera shows up in gray there
[04:30] <XtremeBain> feisty, pretty basic repositories
[04:32] <bdmurray> XtremeBain: which version do you have installed?
[04:32] <XtremeBain> Admiral_laptop: but yeah, just read that it's in canonical's repo
[04:32] <bdmurray> of app-install-data-commercial that is
[04:32] <XtremeBain> app-install-data-commercial_7.2_all
[04:33] <bdmurray> and are you using gnome or kde?
[04:33] <XtremeBain> kde
[04:33] <bdmurray> that might have something to do with it then
[04:35] <XtremeBain> I think if I were to add in 'http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu feisty-commercial main' it would install
[04:35] <XtremeBain> I actually encountered a bug when installing app-install-data-commercial_7.2_all, I should've mentioned
[04:35] <XtremeBain> /var/lib/dpkg/info/app-install-data-commercial.postinst: 3: update-app-install: not found
[04:36] <ubotu> New bug: #128139 in wine (universe) "a package failed to install" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128139
[04:37] <XtremeBain> which makes sense because update-app-install is part of gnome-app-install
[04:38] <bdmurray> It would be good to submit a bug about that then.
[04:40] <XtremeBain> yeah, going to in a bit
[04:41] <bdmurray> great, thanks!
[04:42] <XtremeBain> I guess you'd be the guy to ask about this, is the 'Triaged' status only available after you become a member of BugSquad or similar team?
[04:42] <Hobbsee> yes
[04:42] <Hobbsee> -qa, actually
[04:43] <Hobbsee> XtremeBain: when you do file that bug, please subscribe me to it
[04:43] <XtremeBain> so I can just set 'confirmed' on reports if they're complete?
[04:44] <Hobbsee> no
[04:44] <Hobbsee> confirmed means that you've been able to reproduce the problem somewhere else
[04:44] <XtremeBain> what about trivial bugs like package syncs?
[04:45] <Hobbsee> you still need a member of MOTU or core dev to confirm them.  there's a requestsync script that subscribes the correct teams
[04:45] <XtremeBain> ah okay
[04:45] <Hobbsee> also note - the developer in question may not only look for triaged bugs - they'll tend to go with ones that htey can see that they can fix, too
[04:46] <ubotu> New bug: #128140 in valgrind (main) "valgrind broken with glibc 2.6" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128140
[04:46] <ubotu> New bug: #128141 in gnome-panel (main) "Documents entry twice in shortcut menu" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128141
[04:46] <Hobbsee> er, confirmed when someone else has been able to reproduce the problem, sorry
[04:47] <XtremeBain> still getting the hang of this
[04:48] <XtremeBain> anyway, brb
[04:51] <Hobbsee> XtremeBain: okay, i'm wrong.  Confirmed: a member of the community believes that this report describes a genuine bug in enough detail that a developer could start work on a fix.
[05:00] <ubotu> New bug: #128143 in gnomeradio (universe) "Please sync gnomeradio (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128143
[05:05] <ubotu> New bug: #128145 in videotrans (universe) "Please move to multiverse" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128145
[05:09] <XtremeBain> so that postinst bug has already been reported
[05:09] <XtremeBain> I checked in gutsy, and it's fixed
[05:31] <ubotu> New bug: #128147 in ubiquity (main) "Installer crashed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128147
[05:31] <ubotu> New bug: #128148 in ubiquity (main) "Installer crashed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128148
[05:35] <ubotu> New bug: #128149 in Ubuntu "No sound after install - C-Media 8738" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128149
[05:40] <ubotu> New bug: #128150 in fretsonfire (universe) "If installed from repository, Frets on Fire gives error on song selection" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128150
[05:50] <ubotu> New bug: #128151 in Ubuntu "[Fiesty]  Sound device is locked when playing a movie in VLC" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128151
[05:50] <ubotu> New bug: #128152 in Ubuntu "install gz-<IP_ADDRESS> : "depends of : ocaml-base-nox-3.08.3  but it is not installable"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128152
[06:00] <ubotu> New bug: #123429 in update-manager "could not initiate dbus (dup-of: 103911)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/123429
[06:40] <ubotu> New bug: #128156 in gnome-games (main) "rules for blackjack incorrect?" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128156
[06:40] <ubotu> New bug: #128157 in swt-gtk (universe) "libswt3.2-gtk-java violates debian java policy" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128157
[07:06] <ubotu> New bug: #128115 in d4x (universe) "nt crashed with SIGSEGV in __libc_start_main()" [Medium,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128115
[07:11] <ubotu> New bug: #128160 in libgems-ruby (universe) "Request: Please upgrade to newest version" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128160
[07:16] <ubotu> New bug: #127881 in strigi (main) "strigidaemon crashed with SIGSEGV in EventListenerQueue::run()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/127881
[07:16] <ubotu> New bug: #128161 in penguintv (universe) "PenguinTV crashed with ImportError: cannot import name DockItem from bonobo.ui" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128161
[07:31] <ubotu> New bug: #128164 in pinentry (main) "Please merge pinentry-0.7.3-1 from Debian Unstable (Main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128164
[07:35] <ubotu> New bug: #128163 in Ubuntu "Wireless in HP dv2000 not working properly" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128163
[07:40] <ubotu> New bug: #128165 in Ubuntu "Installation of Alternate CD crashes after tomboy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128165
[08:25] <ubotu> New bug: #128170 in Ubuntu "No 1:1 dimensions on screen (WYSIWYG)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128170
[08:56] <ubotu> New bug: #128173 in Ubuntu "Nautilus is unable to browse filesystem" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128173
[09:01] <ubotu> New bug: #128174 in evolution (main) "Can't close a particular item in the alarm-notify list" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128174
[09:41] <ubotu> New bug: #128177 in tracker (universe) "tracker 0.6" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128177
[09:42] <Daviey> Hmm.. If two bugs exist which one gets marked as a dup' of the other?
[09:42] <Daviey> Is there a general rule?
[09:44] <Hobbsee> Daviey: the newer a dupe of the older.  however, whichever one is better - ie, better description, a patch attached, etc.
[09:45] <Daviey> Hobbsee: ta..  I just wondered why seb128 marked mine a dupe - when i reported it first ;)
[09:46] <seb128> Daviey: what?
[09:46] <Hobbsee> Daviey: usually the core devs get that right, so there's probably a reason
[09:46] <Daviey> Bug #127803
[09:46] <Hobbsee> Daviey: often, the core devs use scripts, etc, with all the needed information
[09:46] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 127803 in nautilus "[Gutsy]  nautilus crash - caused when changing folder (dup-of: 127826)" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/127803
[09:46] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 127826 in nautilus "nautilus crash opening directory" [High,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/127826
[09:46] <Daviey> fair nuff..
[09:47] <Hobbsee> Daviey: that's likely that the latter bug had the changelog entry, so it automatically got marked as fix released?
[09:47] <seb128> well, when there is a zillion of dups I usually don't spend to much time to figure in what order to mark the dups
[09:47] <seb128> and I already had marked 10 other bugs duplicate of #127826
[09:47] <seb128> I didn't want to update all of those
[09:48] <Hobbsee> seb128: yes, where at the end of the day, the idea is to get the bug fixed, not say "ooh, look!  i was the predominant bug filer"
[09:48] <Hobbsee> yes, that too
[09:48] <Daviey> seb128: I don't mind tbh - It's just when i report a bug that gets marked as a dupe, i can see it as a reflection of my searching-foo skills failing :)
[09:49] <Daviey> But it's really _not_ an issue.. Unless there are prizes involved.
[09:49] <seb128> Daviey: if that's a consolation I've marked your bug "Fix Released" when I usually mark duplicates as "Invalid" ;)
[09:50] <Daviey> yah!  Do i get a prize :)
[09:50] <Hobbsee> seb128: you dont even need to mark the dupes with anything, btw
[09:50] <Hobbsee> as in, that htey dont show up in searches
[09:51] <seb128> Hobbsee: I do mark them invalid to point to people that they should look for duplicates before opening one
[09:51] <ubotu> New bug: #127981 in Ubuntu "Drivers for NF615" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/127981
[09:51] <ubotu> New bug: #128180 in rpy (universe) "rpy import error at Gusty" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128180
[09:51] <Hobbsee> seb128: ahhh
[09:51] <seb128> I'll not try to convince anybody else to do the same
[09:51] <Hobbsee> no, tha'ts fair enough
[09:51] <seb128> but I've a stock reply which add the duplicate comment and change the status
[09:51] <seb128> so I just have to click ;)
[09:52] <Hobbsee> oh, point, yes.
[09:53] <Daviey> Launchpad UI or Email reply? </nose>
[09:53] <seb128> UI
[09:53] <Daviey> cool
[09:53] <seb128> using a greasmonkey script which adds stock actions
[09:54] <seb128> http://outflux.net/greasemonkey/  lp_stockreplies.user.js  can be used to do that
[09:54] <Daviey> Ah, didn't think of using GM like that
[09:54] <Hobbsee> although, i'ts probably to dupe a whole bunch via email
[10:06] <ubotu> New bug: #128184 in avahi (main) "unnecessarily stopped in runlevels 0/6?" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128184
[10:10] <ubotu> New bug: #128185 in Ubuntu "Firefox, Thunderbird etc. are crashing when I'm opening an new window in firefox" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128185
[10:15] <ubotu> New bug: #128189 in qt4-x11 (main) "Please split qmake from libqt4-dev" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128189
[10:20] <ubotu> New bug: #128190 in gnome-terminal (main) "gnome-terminal crash with a 'Inconsistency detected by ld.so'" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128190
[10:30] <ubotu> New bug: #128192 in openoffice.org (main) "won't start, hogs the CPU instead" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128192
[10:36] <ubotu> New bug: #128194 in Ubuntu "Gutsy tribe 3 cannot restore from ACPI S3 state on Intel santa rosa platform" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128194
[10:51] <ubotu> New bug: #128197 in teapop (universe) "teapop does not depend on inetd" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128197
[11:00] <ubotu> New bug: #128200 in kdepim (main) "Importing SMIME Cert in Kontact using Kleopatra failed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128200
[11:05] <ubotu> New bug: #128201 in python-cups (main) "Please update/sync to 1.9.24" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128201
[11:42] <Ng> I forget, what is the correct way to request a resync from debian for a given package in gutsy?
[11:49] <Admiral_laptop> i'm pretty sure the people in #ubuntu-motu know, i would ask them, or wait on someone to come around
[11:49] <Admiral_laptop> i suggest MOTU, that channel is always active
[11:49] <asisak> Ng: I guess file a sync request in LP.
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #128205 in elisa (universe) "import python-coherence depends from Debian" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128205
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #128206 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  mongrel" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128206
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #128207 in Ubuntu "After security update ubuntu restarts" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128207
[12:05] <ubotu> New bug: #128208 in Ubuntu "[Gutsy]  tribe 3 sound driver modules fail to install on Dell Latitude D810" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128208
[12:16] <ubotu> New bug: #128210 in rdiff-backup (main) "rdiff-backup: merge new debian version" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128210
[12:21] <ubotu> New bug: #128211 in openoffice.org (main) "openoffice does not start" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128211
[12:21] <ubotu> New bug: #128212 in Ubuntu "Adobe Reader doesn't work anymore" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128212
[12:25] <ubotu> New bug: #128214 in coreutils (main) "coreutils: base64 utility missing" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128214
[12:30] <ubotu> New bug: #128216 in system-config-printer (main) "gutsy/amd64: ftbfs / autopkgtest failure" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128216
[12:31] <ubotu> New bug: #128217 in tar (main) "gutsy/amd64: ftbfs / autopkgtest failure" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128217
[12:31] <ubotu> New bug: #128219 in sdl-mixer1.2 (main) "gutsy/amd64: ftbfs / autopkgtest failure" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128219
[12:31] <ubotu> New bug: #128220 in scim-pinyin (main) "gutsy/amd64: ftbfs / autopkgtest failure" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128220
[12:31] <ubotu> New bug: #128221 in python-xmpp (main) "gutsy/amd64: ftbfs / autopkgtest failure" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128221
[12:31] <ubotu> New bug: #128222 in scim-tables (main) "gutsy/amd64: ftbfs / autopkgtest failure" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128222
[12:31] <ubotu> New bug: #128223 in ssed (main) "gutsy/amd64: ftbfs / autopkgtest failure" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128223
[12:31] <ubotu> New bug: #128224 in screem (main) "gutsy/amd64: ftbfs / autopkgtest failure" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128224
[12:31] <ubotu> New bug: #128225 in tofrodos (main) "gutsy/amd64: ftbfs / autopkgtest failure" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128225
[12:31] <ubotu> New bug: #128226 in subversion (main) "gutsy/amd64: ftbfs / autopkgtest failure" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128226
[12:31] <ubotu> New bug: #128227 in pyspi (main) "gutsy/amd64: ftbfs / autopkgtest failure" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128227
[12:32] <ubotu> New bug: #128215 in scim-hangul (main) "gutsy/amd64: ftbfs / autopkgtest failure" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128215
[12:32] <ubotu> New bug: #128218 in scim (main) "gutsy/amd64: ftbfs / autopkgtest failure" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128218
[12:36] <ubotu> New bug: #128228 in Ubuntu "secure card reader don't work with 2.6.22-x" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128228
[04:35] (ubotu/#ubuntu-bugs) New bug: #128282 in phpmyadmin (universe) "Copy database fails with PhpMyAdmin" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128282
[04:36] <ubotu> New bug: #128281 in firefox (main) "Dimensions" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128281
[04:45] <ubotu> New bug: #128283 in hplip (main) "package hplip 1.7.3-0ubuntu4 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128283
[05:00] <ubotu> New bug: #128286 in evolution (main) "Hang notification-daemon which try to respawn" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128286
[05:06] <ubotu> New bug: #128289 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "VIA southbridge Intel id missing" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128289
[05:06] <bdmurray> cd /n
[05:11] <ubotu> New bug: #128159 in gaim (main) "Jabber: Client and OS version visible to authorized buddies" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128159
[05:16] <ubotu> New bug: #128290 in bash (main) "bash completion doesn't work for 'perl -c'" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128290
[05:20] <ubotu> New bug: #128291 in system-config-printer (main) "system-config-printer.py crashed with RuntimeError in <module>()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128291
[05:20] <ubotu> New bug: #128292 in fuse (main) "fuse 2.7.0 needed to fix issues with ntfs-3g and uuids in fstab" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128292
[05:40] <ubotu> New bug: #128288 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "thunderbird-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in raise() when replying to an IMAP message" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128288
[05:55] <ubotu> New bug: #128295 in ubiquity (main) "Trying to install" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128295
[06:01] <ubotu> New bug: #128296 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "avm drivers need pci_register_driver instead of pci_module_init" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128296
[06:06] <ubotu> New bug: #128297 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "avm fritz wlan driver missing" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128297


[16:40] <bjownsjoo984> Hi
[16:40] <bjownsjoo984> #java
[16:41] <bjownsjoo984> :/ I don't use IRC much lol
[16:57] <bjownsjoo984> is anyone here?