[11:37] <reisio> flipper88_fl: :p
[11:37] <wilee-nilee> dWen, the chip and ram amount?
[11:37] <reisio> tamiya: it saw the invalid signatures
[11:37] <k1l> flipper88_fl: "apt-get dist-upgrade" is not a 12.04 to 12.10 upgrade.  but yes, you can use that 12.04 untill april 2017.
[11:37] <dWen> wilee-nilee: intel i7 990x and Nvidia 590 something..
[11:37] <tamiya> flipper88_fl: I'm using 12.04LTS and there are lots of issues I encountered
[11:37] <reisio> tamiya: the system worked exactly as it was meant to, so no reason to worry
[11:37] <tamiya> reisio: cool
[11:37] <gregor_> dose anyone have any links for the iso xp image file downlaod for vitual box ?
[11:37] <wilee-nilee> dWen, nvidia is graphic
[11:38] <reisio> gregor_: iso xp?
[11:38] <gregor_> yeah
[11:38] <gregor_> win xp
[11:38] <dWen> wilee-nilee: yea but didnt you asked about cpu and gpu?
[11:38] <k1l> gregor_: ask the windows support for that.
[11:38] <reisio> gregor_: look into, um...
[11:38] <reisio> gregor_: vagrant
[11:38] <tamiya> gregor_: win xp is ancient
[11:39] <reisio> gregor_: it's in universe
[11:39] <wilee-nilee> dWen, what I meant my mistake was the chip speed and ram amount, hardware trying to see if you might have an older computer.
[11:39] <tamiya> when is the next LTS?
[11:40] <vlt> tamiya: 14.04
[11:40] <k1l> tamiya: 14.04
[11:40] <tamiya> cool, why isnt 13.04 an LTS product?
[11:40] <dWen> wilee-nilee: on the gpu or cpu?
[11:41] <vlt> !lts | tamiya
[11:41] <k1l> tamiya: because its the schedule to ship a lts every 2 years
[11:41] <ss_haze> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5947223/    #!/bin/sh
[11:41] <ss_haze> xrandr --output DVI-0 --primary --mode 1680x1050
[11:41] <ss_haze> I need this script to set up resolution for lightdm
[11:41] <ss_haze> but I don't know what I should write
[11:41] <jrib> ss_haze: wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config
[11:42] <reisio> gregor_: or https://github.com/xdissent/ievms I don't keep track of which is the most favorite
[11:42] <ss_haze> jrib how link can help me write it for my needed resolutions?
[11:43] <jrib> ss_haze: you have to read it for it to help you.  For example, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#statically_setup_in_xorg.conf
[11:43] <jrib> ss_haze: if you want to use xrandr: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Setting_xrandr_changes_persistently
[11:43] <ss_haze> doesn't helps at all
[11:43] <dWen> wilee-nilee: on the gpu or cpu? :P
[11:43] <jrib> ss_haze: it doesn't if you don't read it.
[11:43] <dWen> wilee-nilee: i can tell you that this isnt an old computer
[11:44] <ss_haze> RandR1.2 configuration in xorg.conf is based on per monitor. So you need write a 'Monitor' section for each output and specify these monitors in 'Device' section.
[11:44] <ss_haze> Below is a example snippet in xorg.conf.
[11:44] <flipper88_fl> jrib: You need to learn how to read the manual and how tos people post to the channel.
[11:44] <jrib> ss_haze: that's part of the document, yes.  Why are you pasting it here?
[11:45] <ss_haze> I don't see how it helps
[11:45] <ss_haze> I should open xorg.conf?
[11:45] <flipper88_fl> same goes for you ss_haze
[11:45] <wilee-nilee> dWen, This in general is out my arae of knowledge, all I can say is detailed descriptions of the problem and identification of the hardware will be your best use here for help.
[11:46] <jrib> ss_haze: the document gives you several options.  You can use xorg.conf or you can put your xrandr command in one of several locations (several are listed and their pros and cons explained)
[11:46] <ss_haze> where is that xorg.conf, I haven't opened it for years jrib
[11:46] <flipper88_fl> ss_haze: TRY /ETC/x11/?
[11:47] <ss_haze> I was half way to get done with that script, I even gave xrandr output
[11:47] <theadmin> flipper88_fl: Caps lock unnecessary. What's more important, Linux is case-sensetive.
[11:47] <theadmin> ss_haze: /etc/X11/
[11:47] <jrib> ss_haze: you can use xrandr if you want.  That's one of the alternatives listed in the wiki.
[11:47] <dWen> wilee-nilee:  well im told you what i have experienced with the computer with. but this doesnt happen to windows, so i dont think it would be an hardware problem
[11:48] <flipper88_fl> thanks for the sage advice theadmin
[11:48] <ss_haze> well I don't even have it in that dir, but somebody could surely help to write that bash script
[11:48] <ss_haze> from this output http://paste.ubuntu.com/5947223/
[11:49] <wilee-nilee> dWen, the more you converse with me someone who cannot help you loose chances of help from the channel, and you can think what you want, however there is a norm for getting help here and I told you what it is.
[11:49] <flipper88_fl> ss_haze: I do beleive that most modern distributions including the *buntus do what is known as on the fly xorg configuration?
[11:50] <flipper88_fl> that is minus slackware
[11:50] <ss_haze> flipper88_fl: should I give screenshot
[11:50] <ss_haze> ?
[11:51] <flipper88_fl> Yes please ss_haze  just please use photobucket>
[11:52] <ss_haze> flipper88_fl: they pay you?
[11:52] <tamiya> Does anyone use Steam to play games regularly?
[11:52] <theadmin> ss_haze: So... what kinda script do you want to make of this?
[11:52] <theadmin> tamiya: I do, why?
[11:52] <jrib> ss_haze: you can create xorg.conf (or organize things nicely in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d I believe).  Again, read the wiki closely, and follow what it advises
[11:53] <tamiya> do you get good performance? have any problems?
[11:53] <theadmin> tamiya: Nope. With the only exception being lack of games, currently -- not very many ported yet.
[11:53] <ss_haze> why ubuntu users should ever do file per configuration for monitors :>
[11:54] <tamiya> I have ATI 5850, performance on L4D2 is terrible
[11:54] <theadmin> tamiya: > ATI -- there's your problem :P
[11:54] <theadmin> tamiya: Are you using radeon or fglrx?
[11:54] <dWen> wilee-nilee:  well how much do you know?
[11:54] <tamiya> I used the drivers from AMD website
[11:54] <theadmin> Yikes.
[11:54] <Darksonn> whenever i try getting into the terminal i end up in this acpid thing, how do i get to the terminal from acpid?
[11:54] <cowbacon> hello, are there any good kernels that a desktop user could use for ubuntu 13.04? (im new to linux so maybe it's a stupid question from me. but with android roms you can flash different kernels and get different performance on the phone so i thought that it maybe existed for ubuntu too)
[11:54] <theadmin> Bad idea.
[11:54] <k1l> tamiya: that brings alot of problems
[11:54] <wilee-nilee> !ot | dWen
[11:55] <flipper88_fl> tamiya: Try goigng with an nvidia  based chisp set?
[11:55] <theadmin> cowbacon: Um... The default kernel is pretty much fine. You may have driver problems with other kernels, and it won't really affect the performance much.
[11:55] <k1l> tamiya: first way is to go with the drivers that ubuntu ships. stop that windows-thinking to load everything from websites
[11:55] <wilee-nilee> dWen, I'm going to put you in ignore so address the channel.
[11:55] <tamiya> k1l: I can't
[11:55] <tamiya> games won't work
[11:55] <cowbacon> theadmin: ah ok. :) just thought i'd ask since flashing kernels can have such a big difference on your android phone. but then i know, thanks for the help :)
[11:56] <reisio> cowbacon: there are lots of kernel patch sets, but usually a person would have some end goal in mind to choose one other than the default
[11:56] <theadmin> tamiya: Then you should've installed the AMD drivers from Ubuntu reposiories, using the additional drivers tool
[11:56] <theadmin> tamiya: sudo apt-get install fglrx
[11:56] <theadmin> tamiya: That'll do it, but first remove those you have from the wobsite
[11:56] <cowbacon> reisio: ah ok, ye, then i guess default is fine ^^
[11:56] <vidarne> to connect to a vlan to get a ip from a dhcp server u need a virtual network card eth0:001 or can a standar lan card do it eth0 ?  if the switch port so computer is connected to is in trunk mode for vlan 100 ?
[11:57] <theadmin> cowbacon: Yesh, I dunno... Cyanogenmod gave me a bigger performance increase than custom kernels :D
[11:57] <motaka2> hello how can I check for my RAM capacity, I mean both used and unused, I think my RAMS do not work well
[11:58] <ss_haze> jrib: thanks for not helping with script, but giving me actually chance to make xorg conf on stuff I havent configured ever, with wiki manual, are you f**** kidding me
[11:58] <k1l> motaka2: free -m
[11:58] <theadmin> motaka2: You can cat /proc/meminfo , I think that'll do it
[11:58] <tamiya> ok, i will try that tomorrow :)
[11:58] <k1l> ss_haze: stop that attitude
[11:58] <wilee-nilee> motaka2, Use the live cd to run a memory test
[11:59] <motaka2> theadmin, is there something like right clicking on mycomputer in windows and select properties to see what system I am running ?
[11:59] <ss_haze> k1l no user should ever try to write it's own xorg.conf for bs like that
[11:59] <reisio> cowbacon: hard to find many pages that cover more than one at a time; http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-kernel.xml
[11:59] <theadmin> motaka2: Uh, sure, you can go to System Settings -> Details
[11:59] <k1l> ss_haze: that is no excuse for your language!
[11:59] <jrib> ss_haze: the wiki walks you through it and gives you several options.  You can use xorg.conf or you can place the xrandr command in the appropriate file.  You have to first try what the wiki advises and then if you have problems with it, I can help you further.  But I'm not going to sit here and type what's already up on the wiki.
[12:00] <k1l> ss_haze: and if you have special tasks you cant demand autmatic solutions for that.
[12:01] <flipper88_fl> How wpuld i set midori as my default webbrowser?
[12:02] <theadmin> flipper88_fl: Depending on your desktop environment. In Unity, System Settings -> Details -> Default Applications.
[12:02] <flipper88_fl> theadmin: Ia m running xubuntu
[12:03] <theadmin> flipper88_fl: Oh, okay, then Menu -> Settings -> Settings Manager -> Preffered Applications (I think)
[12:03] <motaka2> theadmin, It says I am using a @Gb of ram and AMD Atheolon 64  Proccessor 3200+  and os type is 32 bit ? Is that not enough for ubuntu ?
[12:03] <theadmin> flipper88_fl: Haven't used Xfce in a while, might be "Default applications" as well
[12:03] <theadmin> motaka2: Why do you think that's not enough?
[12:03] <flipper88_fl> thanks theadmin
[12:03] <reisio> s/Default/Preferred/
[12:04] <motaka2> theadmin, cause it runs so slow, application got closed suddenly so often
[12:04] <k1l> flipper88_fl: if you use xubuntu be aware that they dont have the same support schedule for the LTS. its only 3 years on yubuntu
[12:04] <k1l> *xubuntu
[12:04] <mynameisdeleted> hi.. I'm running ubuntu 13 on a host..... I want to use rpm to bootstrap a fedora install..(for lxc or other virtualization technology)
[12:04] <mynameisdeleted> it gives me an error to never use rpm directly every time I try to do that... even if not on root filesystem
[12:04] <theadmin> mynameisdeleted: That is most definetly not supported here.
[12:05] <mynameisdeleted> any fix?
[12:05] <mynameisdeleted> this breaks lxc
[12:05] <mynameisdeleted> except for ubuntu guests
[12:05] <reisio> k1l: how does that work...
[12:05] <flipper88_fl> gotcha k1l
[12:05] <mynameisdeleted> lxc is an "ubuntu-stable" package
[12:05] <mynameisdeleted> in main
[12:05] <k1l> reisio: ?
[12:05] <mynameisdeleted> I suggest you support it or move it to multiverse
[12:06] <theadmin> mynameisdeleted: Okay, and? It doesn't mean that Fedora becomes supported.
[12:06] <reisio> k1l: how does it have a different support cycle
[12:06] <motaka2> I am using a 2Gb of ram and AMD Atheolon 64  Proccessor 3200+  and os type is 32 bit ? Is that not enough for ubuntu ? if not why my applications got closed suddenly so often
[12:06] <reisio> k1l: isn't it just a set of desktop files?
[12:06] <wilee-nilee> mynameisdeleted, This is not canonical it is support.
[12:06] <mynameisdeleted> then move the fedora creation template ot templates-extrtta in multiverse and not ubuntu main
[12:06] <k1l> reisio: its their own decision how long they support their community supported packages
[12:06] <reisio> motaka2: if so?
[12:07] <flipper88_fl> !tell motaka2  system requirements
[12:07] <reisio> k1l: know which packages?
[12:07] <mynameisdeleted> ubuntu-main should contain all and only supported packages
[12:07] <theadmin> reisio: Basically, Xfce packages in the repos depend on the Xubuntu team for updates and stuff. Those will stop receiving updates after Xubuntu is EOL, but the main Ubuntu packages will continue to be supported.
[12:07] <theadmin> reisio: You can run "ubuntu-support-status" to see what packages are officially supported by Ubuntu and which aren't.
[12:07] <motaka2> flipper88_fl, What are the system requiements ?
[12:08] <reisio> theadmin: thanks
[12:08] <auronandace> !info lxc | mynameisdeleted
[12:08] <jrib> mynameisdeleted: I don't think it's clear what you want support for. Maybe pastebin exactly what you are doing (your terminal input and output), what you expected to happen when, and what happened instead
[12:08] <motaka2> theadmin, Please tell what I should do
[12:08] <ikonia> theadmin: when did that come in ?
[12:08] <flipper88_fl> So you guys are saying that i have to migrate  to ubuntu which is no issue in order to get an lts release that has five year support on all platforms?
[12:09] <theadmin> ikonia: That?
[12:09] <k1l> mynameisdeleted: its not in main, its in universe. you are aware of it?
[12:09] <ikonia> theadmin: ubuntu-support-status
[12:09] <theadmin> ikonia: Not sure, it's a binary found on default Ubuntu installs at least since 12.04.
[12:09] <reisio> flipper88_fl: you really shouldn't wait that long to update anyways :p
[12:09] <motaka2> theadmin, ?
[12:09] <flipper88_fl> 2016/april
[12:10] <mynameisdeleted> oops
[12:10] <theadmin> motaka2: No idea. What is your GPU?
[12:10] <Darksonn> reisio, im trying to enter the egrep '\(EE..[^error]' /var/log/Xorg*log command as you said, but whenever i do what previously gave me the terminal, i end up at something that looks like the terminal but no matter what i type it just goes to next line, i think its called acpid
[12:11] <motaka2> theadmin, in the setting says unknown but physically I have XFX 9 series
[12:11] <reisio> Darksonn: try grep EE /var/log/Xorg*log instead then
[12:11] <theadmin> motaka2: XFX? What company is that?
[12:11] <ss_haze> I made a script with arandr and now I want to set it up on startup
[12:11] <ss_haze> what should be my command
[12:11] <mynameisdeleted> nova and openstack are all supported so if those dont work I can ask here....haha
[12:11] <motaka2> theadmin, I think GEFoRCE
[12:11] <jrib> ss_haze: the wiki tells you what to do :/
[12:11] <mynameisdeleted> all nova-* packages and keystone
[12:12] <reisio> ss_haze: arandr?
[12:12] <Darksonn> reisio i cant get to the terminal at all
[12:12] <ss_haze> location of this file /home/user/Darbvirsma/monitors.sh
[12:12] <reisio> Darksonn: ah
[12:12] <reisio> huh, frontend to xrandr
[12:12] <theadmin> motaka2: Hm. Tried installing the nVidia drivers?
[12:12] <ss_haze> jrib go to park with your wiki
[12:12] <jrib> ss_haze: good luck with your issue
[12:12] <reisio> ss_haze: probably /etc/xorg.conf.something
[12:13] <motaka2> theadmin, What do u mean?
[12:13] <ss_haze> I need to launch sh script on start up
[12:13] <k1l> flipper88_fl: the xubuntu team doesnt serve a 5year support for their packages for xubuntu. the main packages will get the ubuntu5year support but not the ones from that xubuntu team. so you have to upgrade to the new xubuntu LTS on that date or you need to look out to stay on the ubuntu packages
[12:13] <reisio> ss_haze: for ordinary Ubuntu?
[12:13] <theadmin> motaka2: Well, sudo apt-get install nvidia-current # Or somesuch.
[12:13] <mynameisdeleted> ... rpm is supported.. but only with alien I guess
[12:14] <motaka2> theadmin, I think it is instaleed
[12:14] <jrib> mynameisdeleted: rpms are not supported, even with alien
[12:14] <auronandace> mynameisdeleted: i'd hardly call that supported
[12:14] <ss_haze> reisio: thats why I am on this channel
[12:14] <auronandace> !rpm | mynameisdeleted
[12:14] <theadmin> motaka2: Well, try to run that command
[12:14] <Darksonn> any idea how i get from a terminal looking thing where i can type stuff but anything i type has no effect, if i pressed the power button it says something about acpid and then it shuts down
[12:14] <flipper88_fl> mynameisdeleted: Well douh it a debian based distribution so by default you're looking for a .deb package
[12:15] <motaka2> theadmin, In addtional drivers it seems it activated
[12:15] <theadmin> motaka2: Ah, okay then. Hm.
[12:15] <theadmin> motaka2: I'm not sure. Tried running the memtest?
[12:15] <motaka2> theadmin, What should I do leave linux world forever?
[12:16] <ss_haze> /home/monitors.sh
[12:16] <ss_haze> how to launch it as command
[12:16] <ss_haze> easy question
[12:16] <theadmin> ss_haze: Just type the path
[12:16] <motaka2> theadmin, Whats that ?  Whenever my computer wants to do a task I hear some strange voices from the case, maybe something is wrong with hard drive?
[12:16] <flipper88_fl> Is there a way in which to trim get the clasic gnopme interface on a fresh install of ubuntu  12.04.2?
[12:16] <theadmin> ss_haze: Make sure the script starts with #!/bin/bash or whatever shell it uses, and that it's marked as executable (chmod +x)
[12:16] <ss_haze> then why this script didn't worked out as it should on startup
[12:16] <phoenixyz> Hi everyone. For some reason my notebook (ubuntu 13.04) freezes on "loading initial ramdisk" without any error message when using the mainline kernel. Is there anyway to find out what is going wrong, any logs or something?
[12:17] <ss_haze> theadmin: tnx
[12:17] <osrec> Hi, I am trying to remove a scanner from Ubuntu (it no longer works), but I am not sure how to do this... Can anyone point me in the right direction? I think I'll need to edit some config file somewhere!! Thanks
[12:17] <theadmin> flipper88_fl: Classic Gnome, no, that no longer quite exists. Check out Xubuntu, though: http://xubuntu.org -- the interface is very similar, I'd even say superior.
[12:18] <flipper88_fl> thanks, theadmin I'll just stick wirth the xubuntu teams 3year lts schedule
[12:18] <Darksonn> any idea how i get from a terminal looking thing where i can type stuff but anything i type has no effect, if i pressed the power button it says something about acpid and then it shuts down
[12:20] <ss_haze> I have script that gives needed resolution when I launch it, but when I add location of it on startup apps, it doesn't change anything, and settings come back to what ubuntu likes them to be
[12:20] <theadmin> ss_haze: Again, make sure it's executable.
[12:20] <theadmin> ss_haze: chmod +x /path/to/script
[12:20] <reisio> ss_haze: you might also want the command './script' or 'sh script'
[12:20] <theadmin> ss_haze: (or right-click, properties, permissions, allow executing as program)
[12:21] <reisio> or make a .desktop file :)
[12:21] <ikillcypher> guys how do make yourself root ?
[12:21] <jrib> !sudo | ikillcypher
[12:21] <tamiya> sudo passwd root
[12:21] <theadmin> !danger | tamiya
[12:21] <k1l> tamiya: that is not supported in here.
[12:21] <theadmin> tamiya: Do not do that.
[12:21] <jrib> ikillcypher: do not do what tamiya has said, see ubottu
[12:21] <tamiya> oh
[12:21] <tamiya> why not?
[12:21] <jrib> tamiya: please just point people to the documentation on the wiki so they learn about sudo
[12:21] <k1l> tamiya: please stay with the ubuntu-way in this ubuntu support channel
[12:21] <ikillcypher> how do I make myself root
[12:22] <theadmin> ikillcypher: Use "sudo command" to run a single command as root, or "sudo -i" to run a shell.
[12:22] <k1l> ikillcypher: see the bots message
[12:22] <Stdedos> jrib: Are you there
[12:22] <jrib> Stdedos: i'm here
[12:22] <tamiya> i run as root whenever possible :/
[12:22] <theadmin> tamiya: That's a bad, bad idea.
[12:23] <jrib> tamiya: exactly the opposite of what you should be doing :)
[12:23] <Stdedos> jrib: Well I am kinda into xmlstarlet, but instead of removing lines, starlet's complaining about encoding
[12:23] <tamiya> why is it bad though?
[12:23] <theadmin> tamiya: Running apps as root is bad... well, because it gives them rights they don't need.
[12:23] <jrib> tamiya: what are you referencing when you say "it"?
[12:23] <tamiya> i havent accidently done: rm / yet
[12:23] <ss_haze> it just doesn't work as ubuntu is really not executing it on startup anyway
[12:23] <reisio> tamiya: yet :)
[12:24] <jrib> ss_haze: is the path to your script really /home/monitors.sh and not something like /home/haze/monitors.sh?
[12:24] <tamiya> i hate typing in my password when running 'sudo' all the time
[12:24] <jrib> tamiya: check out "sudo -i"
[12:24] <jrib> tamiya: plus, sudo should cache your password for something like 15 minutes
[12:25] <Darksonn> any idea how i get from a terminal looking thing where i can type stuff but anything i type has no effect, if i pressed the power button it says something about acpid and then it shuts down
[12:25] <tamiya> jrib: it doesn't. more like 2 minutes
[12:25] <jrib> Stdedos: don't know about that, but if you pastebin input and output, someone may be able to help
[12:25] <reisio> Darksonn: is it graphical?
[12:25] <Darksonn> no
[12:25] <tamiya> how do reverse my 'sudo passwd root'?
[12:25] <tamiya> back to system defaults?
[12:25] <jrib> tamiya: the wiki has the command
[12:25] <jrib> !sudo | tamiya
[12:25] <reisio> interesting question
[12:26] <theadmin> tamiya: sudo usermod -p '!' root
[12:26] <jrib> tamiya: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#Re-disabling_your_root_account (what theadmin says will work too)
[12:26] <Stdedos> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5947358/ there you go
[12:26] <ikillcypher> sudo passwd root
[12:26] <ikillcypher> what so dangerous about that
[12:27] <auronandace> !noroot | ikillcypher
[12:27] <jrib> ikillcypher: it's not that it's dangerous necessarily, it's just not something you need.  You can use sudo to do administrative tasks
[12:28] <tamiya> thanks guys, i just disabled root again
[12:28] <jrib> Stdedos: weird, don't know.  Check for encoding options
[12:28] <theadmin> sudo is much more configurable. You can set up access rights for individual users and groups, instead of handing out the root password to whoever needs to run a single command as root, for example.
[12:29] <tamiya> !root
[12:29] <reisio> theadmin: ah, but it's more than a single command you can run by default :)
[12:29] <theadmin> reisio: On the default account, which is an admin one, of course.
[12:29] <reisio> yup
[12:29] <theadmin> reisio: Because %sudo ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
[12:29] <SuperLag> Does playing .wav files require a non-stock package to be installed? or should a stock install play WAV files out of the box?
[12:29] <theadmin> reisio: But I mean for other users.
[12:29] <Stdedos> jrib: xmlstarlet ed -d has no options about encoding ... xmlstarlet fo has, but I do not want to touch the formating ... program using it does and I am happy for it!
[12:29] <SuperLag> reisio: welcome back. :/
[12:29] <auronandace> SuperLag: yes, you'll need the codecs
[12:29] <tamiya> but if someone cracks my own password, then they can just do: sudo rm /
[12:30] <reisio> SuperLag: good question
[12:30] <theadmin> auronandace: I think WAV is a format supported by about anything.
[12:30] <reisio> SuperLag: :)
[12:30] <reisio> I don't think anyone collects royalties on PCM
[12:30] <wilee-nilee> tamiya, Someone can boot a live disc and remove all of it.
[12:31] <jrib> Stdedos: does the xml document itself define an encoding (usually near <xml ...)
[12:31] <wilee-nilee> on any computer
[12:31] <reisio> in fact arecord uses wav by default, IIRC :)
[12:31] <Stdedos> jrib: yes it does, UTF-8
[12:31] <Stdedos> jrib: some greek characters though are not encoded well, dunno
[12:31] <auronandace> SuperLag: sorry, i'm likely wrong
[12:31] <reisio> and aplay plays them, I believe
[12:31] <SuperLag> looks like ubuntu-restricted-extras is what I need
[12:32] <tamiya> then its no better than not having root access
[12:32] <k1l> tamiya: having a different user and root pw is no security. if he could crack one pw he could crack the other too.
[12:32] <theadmin> reisio: Does. Infact, /usr/share/sounds/alsa/ is full of .wavs :D
[12:32] <reisio> a veritable ocean
[12:32] <tamiya> i shall learn the ubuntu way
[12:32] <k1l> tamiya: besides booting up a live-system and erasing all. but that is more of an offtopic discussion for the offtopic channel
[12:32] <ikillcypher> what
[12:32] <ikillcypher> root@ikillcypher:~# chmod a+x ~/bin/repo
[12:32] <ikillcypher> chmod: cannot access ‘/root/bin/repo’: No such file or directory
[12:32] <wilee-nilee> tamiya, get a safe and never go on the internet you should be safe. ;)
[12:33] <SuperLag> Hopefully, I'm not losing out by these packages being removed:   libavcodec53 libavutil51
[12:33] <reisio> SuperLag: they're probably being replaced
[12:33] <theadmin> SuperLag: It installs superior versions of those, you should be fine
[12:33] <SuperLag> (when I install ubuntu-restricted-extras)
[12:33] <auronandace> ikillcypher: why are you chmod-ing a file in /bin ?
[12:33] <k1l> ikillcypher: that are problems with beeing root at all. so dont be root, use sudo
[12:33] <ikillcypher> cyanogenmod
[12:34] <theadmin> ikillcypher: When running as root, ~/ refers to the home directory of root, not your home directory.
[12:34] <theadmin> ikillcypher: And you don't need to be rood to chmod a file in your home dir.
[12:34] <auronandace> ikillcypher: what does that have to do with #ubuntu
[12:35] <jrib> Stdedos: I don't know.  If you can't sort it out with xmlstarlet (maybe try their forums or mailing list if they have one), you might try some alternatives like xmllint mentioned yesterday or your favorite programming language's xml library
[12:36] <tamiya> i'll be back tomorrow with removing AMD drivers and installing fglrx. Hopefully I'll be able to play L4D2 according to the "wonderful" claims by Valve
[12:36] <SuperLag> excellent
[12:36] <jrib> Stdedos: http://www.unix.com/shell-programming-scripting/149524-xmlstarlet-parse-non-en_us-characters.html might be related or useless, but probably worth a read
[12:37] <oliver3> Whenever I tap on my touchpad the cursor moves before the click is registered and it keeps doing the wrong thing, like minimising windows instead of closing them or clicking the wrong links in Firefox. Does anyone know how to fix this? I'm about to tear my hair out :'(
[12:38] <saschagehlich> hey, is there any (official or inofficial) way to move the unity launcher bar to the bottom in the latest ubuntu? :/
[12:39] <oliver3> Also the sensitivity settings in System Settings appear to have zero effect whatsoever...
[12:39] <saschagehlich> or any alternate launcher that looks similar but is attached to the bottom of the screen?
[12:39] <wilee-nilee> saschagehlich, No official and the unofficial does not work anymore
[12:39] <oliver3> saschagehlich: you might want to look at Linux Mint for a more traditional desktop.
[12:39] <theadmin> oliver3: Please do not suggest unsupported derivatives.
[12:40] <theadmin> saschagehlich: Try Xubuntu if you want support (and a traditional desktop)
[12:40] <oliver3> theadmin: unsupported? Seems about as well supported as Ubuntu unless you buy a support contract, no?
[12:40] <DreamPCs> Hey guys, quick question. Is there a terminal command to open another terminal window/tab and run a command in said window?
[12:40] <theadmin> oliver3: I mean, not supported by Ubuntu.
[12:40] <auronandace> oliver3: mint is not supported here
[12:40] <oliver3> theadmin: that's what I said.
[12:40] <theadmin> DreamPCs: gnome-terminal -e '....'
[12:40] <DreamPCs> For instance, I want to write a script that will perform a dd and open another tab to see the progress of that dd
[12:40] <DreamPCs> Thank you theadmin
[12:41] <reisio> DreamPCs: most terms have a param for running a specific command upon starting
[12:41] <theadmin> DreamPCs: That is, if you use gnome-terminal. Other terminals will have different commands, but "-e" is pretty much almost universal.
[12:42] <saschagehlich> is there a reason that unity does not support being moved to the bottom?
[12:42] <DreamPCs> Ok cool, I am using gnome-terminal but I have different linux distros installed on this same machine so that information is useful.
[12:42] <saschagehlich> unity is open source, right? so it would be possible to kind of monkeypatch it so that it works?
[12:42] <k1l> saschagehlich: yes, its not ment to be used that way.
[12:42] <reisio> or they just take the first argument without a param, it varies
[12:42] <wilee-nilee> saschagehlich, You do that and many will love you.
[12:43] <reisio> saschagehlich: heheh
[12:43] <SuperLag> wilee-nilee: no Unity for you? :)
[12:43] <reisio> I bet you could just xrandr rotate the screen, and then move the panels
[12:43] <SuperLag> reisio: LOL
[12:43] <reisio> or at least you could have with GNOME 2 :p
[12:44] <Darksonn> i might be able to properly fix my linux installation problems, if i can get to the terminal, but i cant, im in the installation phase form a livecd and nothing i try gets me to the terminal. I can get to a non graphic interface where i can type stuff, but its not a terminal but i can type stuff but nothing happens when i press enter after running a command
[12:44] <oliver3> saschagehlich: you'll probably end up wasting a huge amount of time and have to repatch it every time. I don't think Unity is designed to support a horizontal alignment at all, who knows how much effort it would take to change that.
[12:44] <theadmin> reisio: Unity doesn't let you easily move the panels.
[12:44] <wilee-nilee> SuperLag, No cube no unity, I use the shell, all said in voice of superiority, hehehe
[12:44] <SuperLag> Darksonn: CTRL-Alt-F2... that doesn't get you to a console?
[12:44] <SuperLag> wilee-nilee: no cube?
[12:44] <saschagehlich> oliver3, maybe i'll spend a weekend looking into it :)
[12:45] <oliver3> saschagehlich: and I doubt your goals are aligned with Canonical's, so I doubt it'd get accepted as an official patch.
[12:45] <oliver3> saschagehlich: good luck regardless of what I said, could be fun. :-)
[12:45] <saschagehlich> i don't want an official patch, but a fork would make sense maybe
[12:45] <reisio> theadmin: I know
[12:45] <SuperLag> wilee-nilee: you use *only* shell? lynx to browse? irssi to IRC? mutt for mail? mplayer for music? vim for everything else? :)
[12:45] <wilee-nilee> SuperLag, The cube is a bit harder than it used to probably possible, I used unity for a couple of years it is okay.
[12:46] <reisio> https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/668415
[12:46] <Darksonn> superlag, i pressed ctrl+alt+f2 and now i am in a terminal looking thing, but i cant type anything
[12:46] <wilee-nilee> SuperLag, Yes, all installed in a golden delicious potato. ;)
[12:47] <streulma> hello Ubuntu people, I like to use Ubuntu 13.04 as my main OS on my Mac, just use Mac for music apps. What should I do for partitioning? 100GB Mac, 8GB swap, 30GB / and rest /home?
[12:47] <wilee-nilee> sorry I been up for 24hrs I'm a bit loopy
[12:47] <daftykins> wilee-nilee: whoa - that's dedication
[12:48] <wilee-nilee> If I just knew to what
[12:48] <reisio> streulma: sounds fine
[12:48] <daftykins> wilee-nilee: support in here of course
[12:49] <paranoidi> how can I downgrade grub .. it may have broken in latest 12.04 upgrade I did .. tried apt-get install grub-pc=1.99-21ubuntu3 grub2-common=1.99-21ubuntu3 grub-pc-bin=1.99-21ubuntu3
[12:49] <paranoidi> no luck
[12:49] <reisio> saschagehlich: looks like there are a few hacks mentioned in the comments on that bug
[12:51] <fgdfgdfgdfgdfdsf> what command do i need to enter in terminal to install pip???
[12:51] <wilee-nilee> paranoidi, Have you tried the bootrepair tool perchance and have the url generated?
[12:51] <Sk1Special> \\?\Volume[547406c4-9f9a-48ff-8b05-18e5238ee24f}\ does that look ubuntu related?
[12:51] <reisio> fgdfgdfgdfgdfdsf: ask apt-file
[12:51] <mirak> hello
[12:51] <reisio> mirak: hi
[12:51] <mirak> I have no sound in ardour
[12:51] <mirak> when i play a track
[12:51] <reisio> Sk1Special: it looks kvm related
[12:51] <paranoidi> wilee-nilee: the what? I've used linux for 13 years and no word you said rings bells
[12:52] <reisio> Sk1Special: or dd
[12:52] <paranoidi> my server is still quite up and running, but it will likely not boot correctly next time if grub is not in working order
[12:52] <paranoidi> just want to downgrade grub and see if it passes without errors, because if it does I'm filing a bug report ;P
[12:52] <Sk1Special> reisio, hmm. im on my windows 8 boot and the ubuntu one is disabled, but thats a new partition ive noticed..just seeing if it came from ubuntu somehow
[12:53] <reisio> Sk1Special: oh, from what output?
[12:53] <wilee-nilee> paranoidi, this app has a bootinfo summary it is actually the bootscript it is helpful for aiagnosing boot problems. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair  http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[12:53] <wilee-nilee> diagnosing*
[12:53] <Kev1> hi I can't play some radios on rhythmbox or totem but yes with vlc
[12:54] <Kev1> could not determine type of stream
[12:54] <streulma> paranoidi: why downgrade grub ?
[12:54] <Sk1Special> reisio, ah im just looking in disk management..and i noticed that new partition.
[12:55] <reisio> ah, not familiar with that GUI
[12:55] <reisio> Sk1Special: if you pastebin the output of fdisk -l or gdisk -l, that'd probably make more sense to me
[12:55] <streulma> I use GParted
[12:55] <paranoidi> streulma: because it's not throwing bunch of "error: found two disks with the index 5 for RAID md/3."
[12:55] <paranoidi> wilee-nilee: running ubuntu server, your gui tools are no use
[12:56] <paranoidi> streulma: it's *now throwing
[12:56] <Sk1Special> reisio, are those windows commands? im on my win8.1 boot, and ubuntu isnt working atm. i was just seeing if that partition somehow came from ubuntu
[12:56] <wilee-nilee> paranoidi, And you failed to mention that and raid up front now didn't you.
[12:56] <saschagehlich> reisio, can you link me to the comment? there are a lot :P
[12:57] <reisio> Sk1Special: ooooooh, okay
[12:57] <reisio> Sk1Special: no they aren't :)
[12:57] <paranoidi> wilee-nilee: irrelevant details, the question was how can I downgrade a package (grub) in this case in order to verify that the new faulty behaviour is because of upgraded package
[12:57] <reisio> saschagehlich: just search for 'http'
[12:58] <Sk1Special> reisio, lol yeah...sall good. random partitions being created i know nothing about worries me is all..back to google i guess
[12:58] <streulma> Sk1Special: look in Disk Manager
[12:58] <streulma> Sk1Special: or use diskpart
[12:58] <streulma> list disk
[12:59] <streulma> select disk 1
[12:59] <streulma> list partition
[13:00] <wilee-nilee> paranoidi, And by the way the bootscript is a text, I only suggest the bootrepair as ubuntu likes It as a standard for support, you are not the only person with years of use.
[13:01] <reisio> Sk1Special: use your ubuntu live OS
[13:01] <saschagehlich> reisio, thanks
[13:01] <paranoidi> wilee-nilee: I rather fix the problem than go to some tool that, frankly, I have zero faith in
[13:01] <Darksonn> I got an error which pointed to a website with an explanation how to fix it, doing their explanation gave an error, i put the error and the terminal output here http://pastebin.com/aQLQxW78
[13:02] <Darksonn> can anyone explain what it means and what i should do?
[13:02] <paranoidi> wilee-nilee: in any case this is more likely a grub bug so that is not going to help anyway
[13:03] <reisio> Darksonn: what's the output of sudo lspci | grep -i net ?
[13:03] <Darksonn> sec
[13:04] <Darksonn> reisio, grep: ?: No such file or directory
[13:05] <reisio> Darksonn: mmm, try without sudo
[13:05] <Darksonn> reisio same output
[13:05] <reisio> Darksonn: lspci on its own?
[13:06] <Darksonn> reisio just lspci fills the screen with stuff about usb and different intel stuff
[13:06] <jrib> Darksonn: without the '?'...
[13:06] <Darksonn> withotu the ? it gives 2 things
[13:06] <reisio> jrib: oh, ha
[13:06] <reisio> hahaha
[13:06] <reisio> Darksonn: what are they? :p model #
[13:07] <Darksonn> a network controller and an ethernet controller
[13:07] <reisio> Darksonn: network, model #
[13:07] <imad> hi
[13:07] <reisio> imad: hi
[13:08] <Darksonn> network controller: broadcom corporation bcm4312 802.11b/g lp-phy (rev 0 1)
[13:08] <imad> #soya
[13:09] <Darksonn> reisio, network controller: broadcom corporation bcm4312 802.11b/g lp-phy (rev 0 1)
[13:10] <anup> I got a hp pavilion g6 2320tx laptop
[13:10] <anup> now I have installed ubuntu on it
[13:10] <reisio> Darksonn: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[13:10] <Darksonn> reisio, ill take a look
[13:11] <anup> the wireless driver is not recognised even after doing sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:11] <anup>  I got a hp pavilion g6 2320tx laptop now I have installed ubuntu 12.04 on it, the wireless driver is not recognised even after doing sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:12] <anup> anyone there??
[13:13] <reisio> anup: can you tell me the output of this?: lspci | grep -i net
[13:13] <jelles> does anybody know a good audio-player to manage my mp3collection
[13:13] <fgdfgdfgdfgdfdsf> foobar
[13:13] <wilee-nilee> anup, I believe you have a  Radeon HD 7670M graphic askubuntu.com has some threads to check if this is the case.
[13:13] <vlt> jelles: ncmpcpp
[13:14] <anup> reisio: 07:00.0 Network controller: Ralink corp. Device 3290 08:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 05)
[13:14] <ggabriel96> hey there :D
[13:14] <Darksonn> reisio, it says i need to Install the STA hybrid drivers/firmware from the restricted repository using the Software Centre or the Synaptic Package Manager, but i only have access to terminal since anything else has a graphics error or black screen
[13:14] <jelles> thank you, i tried amarok/gayadeque/rhytmbox/banshee/... they all were to slow and unable
[13:14] <anup> wilee-nilee: can u please forward me the link.
[13:15] <anup> wilee-nilee: other wise can you tell me the best suitable linux distro for my laptop?
[13:16] <wilee-nilee> anup, run lspci in the terminal to confirm the graphics. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=+Radeon+HD+7670M  Not sure on a suitable distro
[13:16] <anup> it is radeon 7670m hd
[13:16] <anup> wilee-nilee: it is radeon 7670m hd
[13:17] <wilee-nilee> anup, Cool might be something in the links, I have not messed with all graphics so this is just info.
[13:17] <fujipompon> somebody to help me configure a sound card under ubuntu 13.04-64b ?
[13:17] <ggabriel96> I am currently using win7+ubuntu 13.04. if I replace win7 for win8 now, and I don't get the option to boot into ubuntu anymore, what can I do to restore grub?
[13:17] <anup> wilee-nilee: on
[13:18] <wilee-nilee> ggabriel96, This a mbr setup W7?
[13:18] <Darksonn> reisio, it says i need to Install the STA hybrid drivers/firmware from the restricted repository using the Software Centre or the Synaptic Package Manager, but i only have access to terminal since anything else has a graphics error or black screen
[13:18] <ggabriel96> wilee-nilee: what?
[13:18] <reisio> anup: various problems dealt with over here: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22RTL8101E%2FRTL8102E%22%20site%3Aubuntuforums.org
[13:18] <reisio> Darksonn: okay
[13:18] <wilee-nilee> ggabriel96, Huh?
[13:19] <reisio> Darksonn: might be simplest to boot into your install media ('try') and fix it from a chroot
[13:19] <ggabriel96> wilee-nilee: what did you mean?
[13:19] <fujipompon>  somebody to help me configure a sound card under ubuntu 13.04-64b ?
[13:19] <Darksonn> reisio, how do i do that?
[13:20] <reisio> Darksonn: you boot up your install media, hit 'try', and then come back here and ask how to chroot
[13:20] <Darksonn> reisio, with install media, you mean my livecd that im attempting to install from? and what is try
[13:20] <ggabriel96> reisio: sorry but what's chroot?
[13:20] <reisio> Darksonn: yes, are you not already installed?
[13:20] <Darksonn> no
[13:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> ggabriel96: chroot = change root
[13:21] <fujipompon> new on irc chat : somebody is talking to me ?
[13:21] <ggabriel96> ntzrmtthihu777: and what does that do?
[13:21] <wilee-nilee> ggabriel96, I'm fairly sure you have a standard W7 setup booting from the mbr the first 512MB of the HD and not a uefi which uses a partition and different partitioning. YOU can reload grub to that mbr in several ways, commonly people use the bootrepair app, can be done form a live cd as well.
[13:21] <reisio> ggabriel96: it tells the system to pretend that its boundaries are different than what they are by default
[13:21] <Darksonn> reisio, attempting to install gives blackscreen
[13:21] <reisio> Darksonn: blackscreen when you try to boot the install, right?
[13:21] <reisio> Darksonn: or during installation?
[13:21] <ggabriel96> hmmm
[13:21] <Darksonn> reisio, booting the installation
[13:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> ggabriel96: normally root is /; suppose i wish to enter a mounted iso on my filesystem; I'll use chroot /path/to/iso/mountpoint and I'll enter a shell within the iso.
[13:22] <reisio> Darksonn: okay, then as I said, boot your install media, 'try', then come back for more instructions on how to chroot to fix
[13:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> its kinda like dualbooting without dual booting :P
[13:22] <ggabriel96> oh thanks ntzrmtthihu777 and reisio :D
[13:22] <ggabriel96> wilee-nilee: yes, it's a standard mbr
[13:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> ggabriel96: why you worried about chrooting anyways?
[13:22] <Darksonn> reisio, that means just get to the black screen?
[13:22] <ggabriel96> ntzrmtthihu777: curiosity ^^
[13:22] <saschagehlich> hooray, building unity from source... let's dive into the code
[13:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> ggabriel96: gotcha. be very careful, however :P
[13:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> blech, unity.
[13:23] <saschagehlich> just precautionally taking paracetamol...
[13:23] <ggabriel96> wilee-nilee: but if my win8 install doesnt let me boot into ubuntu, what can I do exactly? I mean, can you give me a whole exemple? ;x :P
[13:23] <wilee-nilee> ggabriel96, Cool, you can use the live cd and the bootrepiar app or here is another link, its fairly easy once you are up on it. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing
[13:23] <reisio> Darksonn: no I wnat you to boot up the disc you installed from, and select the 'try' option instead of 'install'
[13:23] <reisio> Darksonn: and then come back to IRC for further instruction
[13:24] <Darksonn> reisio, got it
[13:24] <wilee-nilee> ggabriel96, It seems confusing IO know all you are going to do is install W8 the reload the mbr with the grub bootloader, and hit the road.
[13:24] <Darksonn> reisio, chose nomodeset so try dosent give black screen and chose try
[13:25] <Darksonn> reisio, now on ubuntu 12.04 loading screen
[13:25] <reisio> Darksonn: gj
[13:25] <ggabriel96> wilee-nilee: if Im not wrong, the last time I used this boot repair, it made 2 entries for windows and the hidden mbr partition was available on my computer in windows. didn't like that program. it messed that and didn't solve my last problem (nothing related to what I'm asking now though xD)
 ; i've just installed 'ncmpcpp' and i noticed it works in terminal , fun, but I can't work enough with terminal yet.now i am looking for something like clementine/banshee, that remains working...
[13:26] <jelles> mediamonkey is awesome, but it won't work in ubuntu, not even when running it in wine
[13:26] <reisio> jelles: lies :p http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=5519
[13:27] <wilee-nilee> ggabriel96, Not sure there I never use it myself just suggest it as ubuntu likes it to be used, I just know how to load the mbr, and if I need to reload the mbr because I have messed up I boot to the linux install with supergrub and do it from the dektop.
[13:27] <Darksonn> reisio, 3 lines of error flashed on the install screen and now it stopped loading and it is now showing a "the system is running in low-graphics mode"
[13:27] <ggabriel96> wilee-nilee: for exemple. I have the mbr partition, the C: drive partition, 3 partitions for ubuntu (/, /home/ swap) and then a ntfs data-only partition (yes, in that order). where is my grub located?
[13:27] <reisio> Darksonn: can you use it?
[13:27] <ggabriel96> wilee-nilee: yes, that thing! how is that "install with supergrub and do it from the desktop"?
[13:28] <jablo> Ubuntu firefox vs. Microsoft Silverlight... There's a Danish web site (arealinfo.dk) which uses Microsoft Silverlight to browse Danish map and geographical information. I have tried to make it work in firefox/ubuntu 12.04, installed the Moonlight plugin for firefox. But when I run it, nothing happend and the following error message is on the console: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5947519/
[13:28] <wilee-nilee> ggabriel96, Mbr is not a partition, it is the first 512 MB of the HD.
[13:28] <BluesKaj> ggabriel96, it should be on the mbr
[13:28] <Darksonn> reisio, im on the error box, i can move a cursor with an x as icon, there is an ok button
[13:28] <Darksonn> reisio, assuming i should click the ok button
[13:28] <ggabriel96> BluesKaj: oh yeah that's what I thought. thanks
[13:28] <ggabriel96> wilee-nilee: here it is o.o and only 125mb though
[13:28] <reisio> Darksonn: probably
[13:29] <ggabriel96> wilee-nilee: oh, when I say mbr, Im talking about that system reserved thing, that stores the mbr (it stores it, doesnt it?)
[13:29] <BluesKaj> ggabriel96, and that's where you should keave it
[13:29] <reisio> jablo: could install a win32 browser with silverlight via Wine
[13:29] <wilee-nilee> ggabriel96, I think you are confusing a boot partition with the mbr, but here is a link to the supergrub iso. ggabriel96
[13:29] <ggabriel96> BluesKaj: yes! I just wanna replace win7 with win8 and I think it will mess grub. just wanna know how I could fix that if that actually happens
[13:29] <wilee-nilee> hey pated your nick twice
[13:29] <jelles> Reisio:  when i tried it 4 times, everytime it was incredibly slow, and stopped working, without the ability to even play one song
[13:29] <wilee-nilee> pasted*
[13:29] <Darksonn> reisio, another dialog with title what would you like to do? the options are: 1 run in low-graphics mode for just one session, 2: reconfigure graphics, 3: troubleshoot the error, 4: exit to console login
[13:30] <wilee-nilee> ggabriel96, Thee is no if it will.
[13:30] <wilee-nilee> there*
[13:30] <BluesKaj> ggabriel96, ok
[13:32] <ggabriel96> wilee-nilee: hmm I'm reading that link about grub install
[13:32] <zatan> hey where is the best place to keep nginx source code ?
[13:32] <ggabriel96> wilee-nilee: I wanted a method like that with live cd
[13:32] <inerkick> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5947527/ what should I do
[13:33] <wilee-nilee> ggabriel96, Cool, if you have problems just return here most here know how to reload grub to the mbr.
[13:33] <ggabriel96> wilee-nilee: okay, thanks :D
[13:33] <jablo> reisio: You know, that might just be the thing to do. I'm trying to show  a friend - who's really on  a tight budget for various reasons - how to prolong the life of his aged windows xp computer which is failing badly after an attempt to install XP SP3. And everything he uses the computer for, Ubuntu does very very well... except for just this one web site.
[13:33] <Darksonn> reisio, another dialog with title what would you like to do? the options are: 1 run in low-graphics mode for just one session, 2: reconfigure graphics, 3: troubleshoot the error, 4: exit to console login
[13:35] <ilina> #ubuntu-tn
[13:38] <reisio> Darksonn: you might try 2, then 3, then 1
[13:38] <Darksonn> reisio, ok starting with 2
[13:39] <Darksonn> reisio, dialog title: "how would you like to reconfigure your display?" 1 Use default (generic) config 2 use your backed-up config
[13:39] <reisio> Darksonn: just try things, I don't know those dialogs personally
[13:40] <Darksonn> reisio, the first option makes the dialog go away for a second and then reapper, no matter how many times i do it, the second option does the same
[13:41] <Darksonn> reisio, there is a cancel button on the dialog too
[13:41] <Darksonn> reisio, that one puts me in the weird inescapable terminal where you can write anything you want but it just goes to the next line and you can keep writing
[13:42] <reisio> then we're back to chrooting from your live OS
[13:43] <mirak> is there a more straight forward tool than deboostrap ?
[13:43] <mirak> to install a full ubuntu ?
[13:43] <mirak> from a running ubuntu ?
[13:43] <reisio> mmmmmmm
[13:43] <Darksonn> reisio, i could click ctrlaltf2 to get to the terminal if it helps anything
[13:44] <reisio> mirak: you could extract a system you made in a VM on another system
[13:44] <Darksonn> reisio, now at terminal instead
[13:44] <reisio> Darksonn: no... if you remember we were already at that point a long time ago
[13:44] <mirak> reisio: mmm
[13:44] <reisio> you've gone in a complete circle :)
[13:44] <Darksonn> reisio, heh
[13:44] <Darksonn> reisio, ill reboot and try another option
[13:45] <mirak> reisio: i think deboostrap would be less of a hassle :)
[13:45] <jablo> reisio: :( wine firefox + silverlight at least on aralinfo.dk just uses 99% cpu and is stuck.
[13:45] <reisio> mirak: so do I
[13:45] <reisio> jablo: when did it get stuck?
[13:45] <chverma79> hi
[13:46] <chverma79> here
[13:46] <reisio> jablo: oh
[13:46] <reisio> jablo: actually you might want a patched wine version
[13:46] <amireldor> how can I use apt-get to only download packages and not install them? the internet connection might disconnect in the middle of the download
[13:46] <reisio> jablo: wine-compholio; https://launchpad.net/~ehoover/+archive/compholio/
[13:47] <reisio> amireldor: man apt-get, /--download-only
[13:47] <amireldor> resure, thanks
[13:47] <jablo> reisio: Thanks, trying.
[13:47] <Darksonn> reisio, ok back to original graphics error, will try another option now
[13:48] <Darksonn> reisio, i clicked the troubleshooting option
[13:48] <Darksonn> reisio, theres 4 things i can troubleshoot
[13:49] <Darksonn> reisio, 1 xserver log file 2 startup errors 3 edit config file 4 archive config and logs
[13:51] <Darksonn_> reisio, 1 xserver log file 2 startup errors 3 edit config file 4 archive config and logs
[13:51] <chverma79> kproxy not working
[13:52] <chverma79> kproxy not working in ubuntu
[13:52] <Darksonn_> reisio, the xserver logfile is really long with alot of stuf
[13:52] <Darksonn_> reisio, the startup erros is completely empty
[13:52] <reisio> Darksonn_: only lines with EE matter
[13:53] <probmelloblm9999> why cant i install any apps on software center?
[13:53] <Darksonn_> reisio, first ee: open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory
[13:53] <mirak> when doing a chroot is it safe to mount /dev ?
[13:53] <Darksonn_> reisio, second ee: intel(0): failed to get resources: invalid argument
[13:54] <Darksonn_> reisio, thrid ee: screen(s) found, but none have a useable config
[13:54] <Darksonn_> reisio, not an ee but contained fatal server error assuming thats also important: fatal server error: no screens found
[13:54] <vlt> mirak: `mount -o bind` works fine. "Safe" depends on what you’re going to to in that chroot env ;-)
[13:55] <mirak> vlt: yes i mean a --bind
[13:55] <mirak> vlt: i am installing a new ubuntu with debootstrap
[13:55] <Darksonn_> reisio, another ee: consult someone at x.org fundation support
[13:55] <reisio> I've not actually used debootstrap, but usually use mount --rbind /dev for chroots
[13:56] <reisio> Darksonn_: only the lines with EE and useful text matter :)
[13:56] <vlt> mirak: Works for me.
[13:56] <Darksonn_> reisio, another ee: Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information
[13:57] <reisio> Darksonn_: sorry, what are you reading this from?
[13:57] <Darksonn_> xserver thingy
[13:57] <Darksonn_> xserver log file
[13:58] <reisio> uhuh
[13:58] <chverma79> !offtopic
[13:58] <reisio> useful messages don't say "see blah blah for help"
[13:58] <reisio> they're more like "FOO did BAR error"
[13:58] <Darksonn_> reisio, what about screens found but none have a useable config
[13:59] <reisio> Darksonn_: yeah
[13:59] <reisio> Darksonn_: anything else?
[13:59] <Darksonn_> reisio, except if i can somehow read the reference log file, no
[14:00] <live9> ubuntu 12.04 is not detecting my wireless
[14:00] <live9> anyone know how to resolve this issue?
[14:00] <cfhowlett> live9, new installation?
[14:01] <cfhowlett> live9, and is it not detecting the wifi channels or is your wifi totally fragged and non-functional?
[14:01] <live9> yes
[14:01] <live9> its not detecting it
[14:01] <live9> it totally cant see it
[14:01] <cfhowlett> live9, has it ever worked?
[14:01] <live9> yes
[14:02] <live9> before this installation I had 9.04 on there
[14:02] <live9> and that version detected it
[14:02] <cfhowlett> live9, are you hardwired to the net at present?
[14:03] <live9> no
[14:03] <live9> on another computer over the wireless connection
[14:03] <cfhowlett> live9, get a hard connection, go to settings > additional drivers and it should automagically set up.
[14:04] <Darksonn_> reisio, except if i can somehow read the reference log file, no
[14:04] <busch> Ich have a script on my ext4 filesystem (mounted through iscsi on a RAID10), that creates about 25000 textfiles files (around 60kbs each). The files are beeing serverd by apache2 to to other users. Each user is one file and there devices download the files probably every 10 minutes. It it better to sepperate the files in multiple directorys? (Yes, i should use a database for that, but my skills with databases arent good enough yet)
[14:04] <live9> its empty and reads no proprietary driver in this system
[14:04] <live9> drivers^
[14:05] <live9> whats the official ubuntu channel
[14:05] <daftykins> this one
[14:05] <cfhowlett> live9, what?  this is #ubuntu
[14:05] <live9> ok
[14:05] <daftykins> you're in it!
[14:05] <dwarder> which ubuntu version installs php 5.4 by default?
[14:06] <cfhowlett> live9, ok well, this does happen.  I might be able to help.  make and model of your computer?
[14:06]  * cfhowlett hopes it's broadcom ...
[14:06] <live9> dell inspirion 1750
[14:06] <reisio> dwarder: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=names&suite=all&section=all&keywords=php5
[14:07] <bakingbread> Hi guys! This bug drives me crazy... I'm getting random freezes after 24+ hours of uptime - mouse doesn't move, no reaction from keyboard as well except for Alt+SysRq+REISUB. Syslog: https://gist.github.com/liverlin/6150424
[14:07] <live9> I tried the fn + f2
[14:07] <cfhowlett> live9, yep, broadcom onboard.  here's the tutorial.   for what it's worth, I used the "no internet access STA method" and had wifi in 2 minutes , no reboot required ..
[14:07] <cfhowlett> live9, um, wait.  are you dual booting?
[14:07] <live9> ok great cfhow
[14:07] <dwarder> reisio: so, 12.10 right?
[14:07] <live9> nope no dual boot
[14:07] <live9> ubuntu is only os on this computer
[14:08] <Darksonn_> reisio, except if i can somehow read the reference log file, no
[14:08] <reisio> dwarder: and higher, right
[14:08] <reisio> Darksonn_: think you want to chroot man
[14:08] <dwarder> reisio: thanx
[14:09] <reisio> I gotta go do some things and then get some sleep
[14:09] <cfhowlett> live9, if you mucked around with the hardswitch, you could easily have turned off your wifi ...
[14:09] <Darksonn_> how do i chroot then?
[14:10] <live9> wifi was turned off ever since the first time it booted into ubuntu after installation
[14:10] <live9> you said u had a tutorial?
[14:11] <cfhowlett> live9, tutorial won't help if you killed the hardswitch ... wait one
[14:12] <live9> the dell doesnt have a physical switch
[14:13] <cfhowlett> live9, f2 IS the switch on the 1545 ...
[14:14] <cfhowlett> live9,   http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/2012/08/17/how-to-fix-wireless-is-disabled-by-hardware-switch-message-in-ubuntu-12-04/
[14:14] <live9> yes it is f2 on the 1750
[14:14] <live9> ok great
[14:14] <cfhowlett> live9, and if you turned it off, it might or might not reactivate via hardware.  run the tutorial.
[14:16] <hgfhfghf> why do i have problems with internet connection in software center if i try to install or update settings???
[14:18] <hgfhfghf> why do i have problems with internet connection in software center if i try to install or update settings???
[14:19] <drip> hgfhfghf: dont need to repeart
[14:19] <drip> more than likely a coincidence
[14:21] <live9> no luck with that
[14:22] <hgfhfghf> why do i have problems with internet connection in software center if i try to install or update settings???
[14:22] <cfhowlett> !details|hgfhfghf,
[14:23] <hgfhfghf> i got ubuntu 10.10, when i try to install any app i get this: Failed to download repository information. Check your Internet connection.
[14:23] <hgfhfghf> and then this in details: W:GPG error: http://archive.canonical.com maverick Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B5, W:Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80] , W:Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/multiverse/binary-i386/Pack
[14:24] <DJones> hgfhfghf: That would explain it, 10.10 is no longer supported, the repo's have probably been removed
[14:24] <DJones> !10.10 | hgfhfghf
[14:24] <hgfhfghf> but i cant even upgrade it
[14:24] <DJones> !eolupgrade
[14:24] <daftykins> correct, no repos, no upgrade
[14:25] <hgfhfghf> what should i do now?
[14:25] <hgfhfghf> how to install new version of ubuntu?
[14:25] <Sk1Special> the last link up there..
[14:26] <DJones> hgfhfghf: If you look at Ubottu's last link, that gives info on how you can upgrade, although it may be better to download and install a more recent version, if you want long term support 12.04 is supported for 5 years
[14:27] <Inge_Toma> Hello everyone, Inge_Tomahere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[14:27] <drip> he comes in here daily
[14:28] <trijntje> Can somebody help me migrate from evolution to thunderbird? The ubuntu wiki is outdated and askubuntu wants me to manually export 30+ folders to mbox format
[14:29] <bl4ckdu5t> Inge_Toma: DDoS sounds like a stale thing to me
[14:29] <g105b> What could be causing my laptop to turn on when hibernated? A few times recently I've come to take my laptop out of my bag and it has been warm and out of batteries even though it has been in hibernate mode. More recently I've tested it by hibernating it and leaving it on a desk - yup, it is turned on a few hours later.
[14:31] <A1Recon> I was tinkering around with SSH a couple of days ago. Now I want to start afresh. Do I have to delete the keys  or files in /etc/ssh ?
[14:31] <hgfhfghf> i have older computer, should i install xfce on ubuntu to run it little faster? would it help?
[14:32] <SuRfDaEmOn> A1Recon: might be things in ~/.ssh/
[14:32] <daftykins> hgfhfghf: yes
[14:32] <SuRfDaEmOn> hgfhfghf: it is possible, i like xubuntu
[14:32] <hgfhfghf> not xubuntu, xfce on ubuntu
[14:32] <SuRfDaEmOn> k, sure
[14:32] <cfhowlett> hgfhfghf, xubuntu and lubuntu are optimized for older and lower tech devices
[14:32] <A1Recon> SuRfDaEmOn: So I don't touch things in  /etc/ssh ??
[14:33] <drip> A1Recon: no, not unless you were specifically changing things in /etc/ssh
[14:34] <jablo> reisio: To use wine-compholio, do I uninstall the default wine first (and then---which of the many wine-packages?) or do I just install wine-compholio on top of the existing installation ?
[14:34] <SuRfDaEmOn> A1Recon: not sure what you're looking to do, but I wouldn't think you would need to, normally.
[14:34] <drip> A1Recon: ~/.ssh/ is your local dir where personal settings are stored
[14:36] <A1Recon> SuRfDaEmOn: drip: Thanks!!
[14:43] <live9> ok finally. I got it now. all I had to do was walk up to my router and get a wired connection. and then, go to additional drivers and download the proprietary driver I needed for my wireless.
[14:43] <gfdfgdfhd> what should i get xubuntu or lubuntu?
[14:43] <live9> apparently this version of ubuntu didnt include that proprietary driver i need for my computer
[14:44] <live9> anyway, im happy now
[14:45] <flipper88_fl> Does it matter that i did a sudp apt-get -y purge  xubuntu after rebooting post sudo apt-get -y install ubuntu-Desktop?
[14:46] <cfhowlett> live9, good for you.
[14:48] <gfdfgdfhd> what should i get xubuntu or lubuntu?
[14:49] <cfhowlett> gfdfgdfhd, up to you.  try this; install xfce4 to sample xubuntu and get lxde to sample lubuntu
[14:49] <live9> yes. thanks a lot  cfhowlett for your help
[14:49] <live9> have a great day
[14:49] <cfhowlett> live9, have fun, be safe
[14:51] <ubuntivity> Hello
[14:51] <cfhowlett> ubuntivity, greetings
[14:52] <ubuntivity> My old laptop running ubuntu server 12.04 takes very long time wheb I order it to dhclient eth1
[14:52] <ubuntivity> *when
[14:52] <phoenixyz> Hi everyone. For some reason my notebook (ubuntu 13.04) freezes on "loading initial ramdisk" without any error message when using the mainline kernel (same config as the one of the working kernel - chose defaults in oldconfig). Is there anyway to find out what is going wrong, any logs or something?
[14:53] <ubuntivity> I use that command to connect it to a dhcp over wifi
[14:58] <ggabriel96> hey guys
[14:59] <daftykins> o/
[15:00] <ggabriel96> tomorrow I was trying to create my virtual machine and I was having problems with virtual box crashing x. with some research I couldn't find so much useful info, but that made my guess it was some conflict with nvidia driver
[15:00] <ggabriel96> then I restored nouveau and everything was fine
[15:00] <ggabriel96> but, the performance is of course lower. I wanted to go back to nvidia, but I still have the old x files here that nvidia used
[15:01] <ggabriel96> I wanted to do a completely clean install, with everything in default settings, to see if I can use the nvidia driver and virtual box normally
[15:01] <ggabriel96> how can I do that?
[15:01] <daftykins> ggabriel96: so you came back from the future? you wouldn't have nvidia drivers in a VM
[15:01] <ggabriel96> daftykins: not in the vm, in my system
[15:02] <daftykins> ggabriel96: as in without formatting the whole thing?
[15:02] <ggabriel96> daftykins: of course!
[15:03] <daftykins> why not just do it?
[15:03] <ggabriel96> daftykins: format?
[15:04] <daftykins> yeah
[15:04] <daftykins> did you create a separate /home ?
[15:04] <ggabriel96> daftykins: yes, i have a separate /home. I don't know what are the files nouveau uses. so I didn't remove any X file. I just want to install nvidia driver again but as if it was the first time.
[15:04] <daftykins> oh right
[15:05] <LA2> why is the prime symbol (U+2032) so tiny in the Ubuntu default font?
[15:05] <daftykins> i'm not sure what the package names are for nvidia in the latest ubuntu
[15:05] <ggabriel96> daftykins: reinstalling ubuntu telling it to format /, use the "old" /home but without formatting it would make the trick?
[15:06] <daftykins> ggabriel96: well you should have a pretty plain nvidia setup by reinstalling and just renaming any /etc/X11/xorg.conf you have to say xorg.conf.old so it's backed up
[15:06] <daftykins> as in just use additional drivers / install the package in a terminal
[15:07] <ggabriel96> daftykins: I don't have any xorg.conf there, just my backup and this xorg.conf.nvidia-xconfig-original what I don't know what it is
[15:07] <daftykins> it'll likely be the xorg.conf as it was before 'nvidia-xconfig' was run, which generates a xorg.conf for nvidia driver use
[15:07] <daftykins> so just put it back on and gogogo \o/
[15:08] <ggabriel96> so I shouldn't worry about this xorg.conf.nvidia-xconfig-original and just install nvidia?
[15:09] <daftykins> ggabriel96: yep
[15:09] <daftykins> ggabriel96: what's the worst that could happen? :)
[15:10] <ggabriel96> daftykins: my vm crash x again T_T
[15:10] <jablo> sigh. No luck with Firefox/wine + silverlight on arealinfo.dk. I think I'll give up.
[15:10] <reisio> jablo: with compholio?
[15:12] <ggabriel96> daftykins: how can I know what option on additional drivers is the nvidia-current? there is not much info about drivers in additional drivers... plus I don't know which one is the most recommended, as the 304.88 (nvidia-current) had a better performance than the latest one available there (313-updates)
[15:12] <jablo> I do think I installed compholio, yes. (wine-compholio). Then I got "virtual memory exhausted" whenever I started wine. Then I tried adding another ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa which also upgraded wine, and wine could starte - but silverlight still just locks ups.
[15:12] <jablo> reisio: I do think I installed compholio, yes. (wine-compholio). Then I got "virtual memory exhausted" whenever I started wine. Then I tried adding another ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa which also upgraded wine, and wine could starte - but silverlight still just locks ups.
[15:12] <daftykins> ggabriel96: just experiment
[15:12] <ggabriel96> daftykins: isnt there any problem in constantly changing those drivers?
[15:12] <seg> ggabriel96: no.
[15:12] <reisio> jablo: what's the site?
[15:12] <ggabriel96> OMG HOW I LOVE LINUX
[15:13] <ggabriel96> sorry for caps, but I get excited
[15:13] <ggabriel96> xD
[15:13] <ggabriel96> thanks daftykins and seg :D
[15:13] <daftykins> ggabriel96: nope, you can keep changing drivers in Windows too - doesn't make an issue
[15:14] <ggabriel96> daftykins: yeah but windows is a whole mess with that ntfs crap and "you need to restart your system in order to apply changes"
[15:14] <jablo> reisio: arealinfo.dk. I do not know if it is available outside Denmark
[15:14] <ggabriel96> daftykins: and it's pretty much slower than linux (even more when changing drivers!)
[15:14] <A1Recon> Hey I am trying to make Ubuntu a DLNA Client and I following the stuff from this webpage https://www.ebower.com/docs/ubuntu-dlna-player/  I downloaded the plugin code and plugin definition by using the code on that page but the plugin does not show up on Totem/Media Player. BTW the files downloaded are named "upnp-coherence.py" and "upnp-coherence.totem-plugin" << Maybe the problem is because of the ".totem-plugin" extension. Please help!!
[15:15] <A1Recon> BTW I am on Ubuntu 13.04
[15:15] <ggabriel96> daftykins: I'm making all this questions and vmbox thing because imma test what's gonna happen if I replace my win7 with win8 (i have dualboot win7+ubuntu13.04). I think it will mess my grub and ubuntu's boot option, so Ill test in virtualbox before doing anything else
[15:15] <ggabriel96> daftykins: but virtualbox was having problems with nvidia, as I said. I hope it doesnt anymore
[15:15] <daftykins> ggabriel96: virtualbox probably won't be able to let you test an EFI install
[15:16] <ggabriel96> daftykins: EFI install?
[15:17] <flipper88_fl> A1Recon: sudo python upnp-coherence.py
[15:17] <daftykins> ggabriel96: yeah UEFI vs. legacy installs and all that fun. i figured you meant that's what's going wrong
[15:18] <reisio> jablo: you might actually try installing netflix-desktop and using its web browser
[15:18] <magdur> guys i install ubuntu 12.04 but before i have ubuntu 12.10 and now i have 2 os how can i uninstall ubuntu 12.10 ( same time installed windows 7 i want to save it )
[15:18] <reisio> magdur: leaving only Windows 7?
[15:18] <ggabriel96> daftykins: sorry I don't get it. could you simplify? ;x
[15:20] <magdur> no reisio i want leave ubuntu 12.10 now i installed 2  os
[15:20] <reisio> magdur: Windows 7, Ubuntu 12.04, _and_ Ubuntu 12.10?
[15:20] <daftykins> ggabriel96: eh nevermind
[15:20] <magdur> reisio ubuntu 12.10
[15:20] <magdur> i want to delete it
[15:20] <seg> daftykins: vbox can emulate efi stuff, but its a bunch of hacks and is probably an unreliable simulation for what he's doing.
[15:20] <daftykins> ggabriel96: i'm pretty sure virtualbox won't be a good comparison to your actual PC though
[15:20] <reisio> magdur: you want to get rid of 12.10 and keep 12.04?
[15:21] <magdur> yes
[15:21] <daftykins> seg: yeah i don't see it comparing
[15:21] <reisio> seg: yeah? I've been meaning to try that, you gotta link?
[15:21] <jablo> reisio: I'll try that. Running wine firefox from the command line, and loading that site, I see endlessly repeated messages: fixme:winsock:WSAIoclt -> SIO_ADDRESS_LIST_CHANGE request: stub
[15:21] <seg> no link, just first hand, fiddle with the image settings after its made, its with the ioapic stuff I believe
[15:21] <ggabriel96> daftykins: ok xD. just let me ask you one more thing. if I wanted to format and reinstall ubuntu without touching the /home partition, would I preserve all my programs too? and would it have any problems related to that?
[15:21] <reisio> magdur: okay, the typical way would be to boot your live OS, delete the partition/s of the one you don't want, and resize the rest to reclaim the space
[15:22] <reisio> seg: :/
[15:22] <reisio> seg: what about vmware?
[15:22] <magdur> reisio how can i do that ?
[15:22] <seg> reisio:  not sure, I havent played with that in a few years
[15:22] <daftykins> ggabriel96: no, it wouldn't save installed software. just software settings and maybe their data, e.g. firefox bookmarks would be in /home
[15:22] <reisio> magdur: with the disc you installed Ubuntu from
[15:22] <reisio> seg: righto
[15:22] <magdur> lets all with a disk
[15:22] <ggabriel96> daftykins: ooh. and is there any way to save at least a list of the programs I have/had installed?
[15:23] <seg> reisio: in my experience, vmware does all the fancy stuff first. I'd bet they can emulate those environmentsm too
[15:23] <seg> reisio: or atleast get them to work
[15:23] <daftykins> ggabriel96: yeah i don't know how though
[15:23] <A1Recon> flipper88_fl: current pwd is "/usr/lib/totem/plugins/upnp-coherence" and i run the "sudo python upnp-coherence.py" and i get this :
[15:23] <A1Recon> Traceback (most recent call last):
[15:23] <A1Recon>   File "upnp-coherence.py", line 14, in <module>
[15:23] <A1Recon>     import totem
[15:23] <A1Recon> ImportError: No module named totem
[15:23] <FloodBot1> A1Recon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:23] <ggabriel96> daftykins: hmm ok
[15:23] <xkernel> Kubuntu 13.04 amd64 can't boot on Macbook but Ubuntu works fine
[15:23] <ggabriel96> daftykins: ty again ^^
[15:23] <A1Recon> oops
[15:23] <ggabriel96> be right back
[15:23] <reisio> seg: but in the free version is the question :p
[15:24] <seg> reisio: ughh. that's why I haven't played with it in a few yearsr ;D
[15:25] <magdur> #ubuntu_tr
[15:25] <magdur> türkçe kanalı neydi?
[15:26] <jablo> resio: cya later, thanks for help. I'll try the netflix solution to my silverlight problem later.
[15:26] <fujipompon> hello : I search for help configure properly a intel hd sound card under ubuntu 13.04-64b
[15:26] <reisio> fujipompon: what makes you think it's not configured properly?
[15:26] <magdur> hacılar türkçe kanalın ismi neydi
[15:27] <reisio> magdur: /msg alis list *ubunt*tr
[15:28] <fujipompon> reisio : sound comes out the hdmi digital outpout and I badely needs SPDIF !
[15:28] <magdur> #ubuntu-ceviri
[15:29] <xkernel> where can I find the Kubuntu 13.04 amd64 for mac ?
[15:29] <daftykins> xkernel: i'm not sure that macs are even officially supported
[15:29] <fujipompon> reisio : can't find any graphical way to setup all that
[15:30] <reisio> fujipompon: sometimes that's hidden in alsamixer
[15:30] <reisio> fujipompon: some of the channels instead of volume mixers are toggles between outputs
[15:31] <fujipompon> reisio : if you can help I know how to type commands in console
[15:32] <reisio> fujipompon: just run 'alsamixer', look around, hit TAB, use the arrow keys (up/dn for toggles)
[15:32] <p0wp0w|AWAY> any suggested mailserver solution for Ubuntu 12.10 server. Just for a personal domain. Thinking postfix, dovecot & squirrelmail
[15:32] <reisio> it might be referred to as IEC something
[15:35] <fujipompon> reisio : ok for alsamixer : some kind of "picture" appears
[15:35] <reisio> mmhmm
[15:36] <fujipompon> reisio : with tab I can go to "control spdif"  witch displays a 00
[15:36] <reisio> fujipompon: okay, that's something
[15:36] <fujipompon> reisio : but there'sis no way to raise thet value
[15:37] <reisio> fujipompon: you have some speakers hooked up to your spdif out?
[15:37] <fujipompon> reisio :  thAt !
[15:37] <reisio> got it?
[15:38] <fujipompon> in fact I have an HC amplifier conneted through an Optic wire
[15:38] <reisio> fujipompon: k, turn it on
[15:38] <daftykins> reisio: has he unmuted all outputs like IEC958 in alsamixer?
[15:38] <reisio> fujipompon: play some audio while you play in alsamixer
[15:39] <reisio> daftykins: that's what he was just trying
[15:39] <daftykins> cool
[15:39] <daftykins> that used to be the old trick for my optical gear
[15:39] <fujipompon> reisio : All that is operational under W7... Amplifier is on...
[15:39] <reisio> fujipompon: oh on the same box?
[15:39] <magdur> #ubuntu_tr
[15:40] <fujipompon> reisio : yes ! that means at least that the connections are ok !
[15:40] <reisio> fujipompon: okay, so put an audio file on a loop while you play in alsamixer
[15:40] <woo> vishnu: on my color scheme your name comes up blue :)
[15:41] <vishnu> y woo
[15:41] <vishnu> ?
[15:41] <reisio> I think he was commenting on the coincidence that 'vishnu' would be blue
[15:42] <A1Recon> How do i change the file permissions so that i can delete it? it needs root.
[15:42] <reisio> A1Recon: it?
[15:42] <vishnu> yaa may be
[15:42] <reisio> ...cause vishnu is said to be blue...
[15:43] <woo> vishnu: please use entire spelling of words for those people for whom english is not their first language
[15:43] <gyklon> vishu sucks.
[15:43] <fujipompon> reisio : OK something reads in "Rhyhmbox" : can't hear anything
[15:43] <gyklon> What horse shit is it?
[15:43] <ikonia> gyklon: stop that please.
[15:43] <vishnu> what
[15:43] <ikonia> gyklon: tone down your language.
[15:43] <ikonia> !guidelines | gyklon
[15:43] <hylian> can I use the xfce settings manager for things like power control on lxde? lxde has little to no tools for settings.
[15:43] <reisio> fujipompon: make sure you can hear it out of _something_ before you proceed
[15:43] <woo> gyklon: he absorbs
[15:43] <reisio> fujipompon: headphones, other speakers
[15:44] <reisio> not point trying to figure out s/pdif if your audio isn't already working in some fashion
[15:44] <woo> sry ot
[15:44] <gyklon> c'mon.
[15:44] <reisio> no* point
[15:44] <ikonia> gyklon: please read the guidelines before saying anything else
[15:44] <ikonia> !guideliens > gyklon
[15:44] <gyklon> Yeah. Ok.
[15:44] <ikonia> !guidelines > gyklon
[15:44] <ikonia> gyklon: great, thank you
[15:45] <gyklon> Yes. Master.
[15:45] <hylian> never mind, found the answer to my question via google, the answer is yes.
[15:46] <Voi> suppose i had a few thousand .mp3 files in a folder, and some of them would contain a certain word, and id want to remove that word out of their title. what would be the easiest way of doing that?
[15:46] <reisio> Voi: the filename, not the metadata?
[15:46] <fujipompon> reisio :  i don't have any  speakers here, but there's nothing either coming out of HDmi (TV)
[15:46] <Voi> reisio, both
[15:46] <Darksonn> I finally managed to install ubuntu on my laptop, but whenever i boot it i get the following error: the system is running in low graphics mode, i searched up some solutions, but when i tried to perform them i couldnt because the terminal dosent work, its black screen, blue cursor and is filled with blue lines going down over the entire screen vertically
[15:46] <Voi> reisio, lets say the file name for starters
[15:46] <gyklon> rm -rf *.mp3
[15:46] <gyklon> Best solution.
[15:46] <woo> !awk > Voi
[15:46] <gyklon> You need to be is that directory.
[15:47] <fujipompon> reisio : witch I use as a monitor
[15:47] <DJones> gyklon: That is not helpful
[15:47] <Voi> gyklon whats that command?
[15:47] <reisio> Voi: you might see what 'beets' has for it
[15:47] <k1l> !danger
[15:47] <reisio> Voi: I'd probably use find + id3v2 + rename
[15:47] <k1l> Voi: dont use that command. that will erase all files
[15:48] <Voi> thanks
[15:48] <reisio> fujipompon: as long as you can hear something
[15:48] <Voi> im not using anything i dont know no worries :P
[15:48] <woo> but !awk is still right use with grep and mv
[15:49] <Voi> i guess what i want is a script that loops through the files looking for the key word and replacing it
[15:49] <Voi> reisio, whats id3v2
[15:49] <woo> Voi: just line them up in nautilus
[15:49] <gerardov> Hi. When I try  to watch a DVD I get the message that the decoding library is not installed.
[15:50] <kostkon> !dvd | gerardov
[15:50] <reisio> Voi: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaqJmjM23D0#t=2m29s
[15:50] <Voi> and what about metadata; i dont know much about that, but can i do such things on title, artist name etc..
[15:50] <Darksonn> I finally managed to install ubuntu on my laptop, but whenever i boot it i get the following error: the system is running in low graphics mode, i searched up some solutions, but when i tried to perform them i couldnt because the terminal dosent work, its black screen, blue cursor and is filled with blue lines going down over the entire screen vertically
[15:50] <gerardov> kostkon, thanks.
[15:50] <Voi> ty reisio
[15:53] <pk__> Hi
[15:54] <fujipompon> reisio : Old ditros of ubuntu use to havec the option of using external drivers, for peripherical such as soundcard , too bad that 13.04 doesn't anymore...
[15:54] <hplc> what url to mirror in order to setup a personal ubuntu ftp install site?, i just need plain CD size mirroring and dont want to have a mounted ISO
[15:54] <reisio> fujipompon: I'm sure it has, but I don't think you're at that point yet
[15:55] <fujipompon> reisio : I'm convinced that my trouble is a matter of unappropiriate drivers
[15:55] <Darksonn> what does it mean if when i open the terminal, i get to a page where the entire screen is black except for alot of blue vertical lines going over the black area
[15:56] <fujipompon> reisio : but anyways I can't find any linux drivers 4 this soundcard
[15:57] <fujipompon> reisio :  So then what else can I do ? Any clues , dear reisio ?
[15:58] <fujipompon> reisio : ( Rhythmbox still runs a loop)
[15:58] <pk___> Can someone help me?
[15:59] <daftykins> pk___: you need to ask a question first
[15:59] <Guest98035> Hi, what would be the best partition structure on a 500 GB Sata driver on laptop? :) I am thinking about have one /home, one /boot and one /.
[15:59] <zykotick9> pk___: ask your question, and see (assuming it's ubuntu related).
[16:00] <reisio> Guest98035: and swap? That should work out fine
[16:00] <reisio> Guest98035: I'd skip the /boot though
[16:00] <reisio> I'd skip /home, even, but that's just me
[16:02] <fujipompon> reisio : ok ! I went to "sound tuning"  clicked on HDMI / DisplayPort /internal audio AND I CAN HEAR my loop playing in RhytnmBox !!!!
[16:02] <Guest98035> reisio, Yes of course the swap :D Why skip /boot? :) I wa thinking if some kernel or grub is on a bad sector on hdd its easy to move a whole partition instead of a part.
[16:02] <fujipompon> reisio : on the TV I precise !
[16:03] <Guest98035> reisio, I prefer to have /home separatly now, when I really understand that its nice to have those time Ubuntu crashes or goes fawlty, which is quite often unfortunatly. I would like A OS which never fails in some years at least.
[16:03] <reisio> fujipompon: sound tuning? Some pulse gui thing?
[16:03] <reisio> Guest98035: separate partitions don't really protect against that, backups do
[16:04] <Voi> so i installed beets using ubuntu software center but i fail to find it; the beets doc says ~/.config/beets/config.yaml but its not there; i get that a lot these days, things not being where they should be, how do i find that beets config file now?
[16:04] <reisio> Voi: dpkg -L beets | grep bin
[16:04] <fujipompon> reisio :  no Ii mean the GUI  sound "stuff that comes when you hit paramaters
[16:04] <reisio> fujipompon: k, well gj
[16:04] <Guest98035> reisio, Well yes of coruse it does. If / partition fails, I can just blow it out and reinstall. But if /home is on same partition as /, well I need to take a backup each time.
[16:05] <fujipompon> reisio : sorry my ubuntu is in french so !
[16:05] <reisio> Guest98035: nope
[16:05] <reisio> Guest98035: you can 'just reinstall' regardless
[16:05] <Guest98035> reisio, Yes I can? I have done it before?
[16:05] <reisio> Guest98035: I don't know :)
[16:06] <Guest98035> reisio, If you resintall where /home is on /, then you need to take a new backup before doing the reinstall. If /home is separate from /, then you do not need any backup. You just use old /home as the new /home on the new installation.
[16:07] <reisio> you need to take a new backup anyways, or your backup won't be much use
[16:07] <reisio> but regardless, you can still do it
[16:07] <hplc> anyone can give me an example on what url to mirror to have own personal ftp install server?
[16:08] <beneter_> Hello, I'm trying to activate PFS on my apache on ubuntu 12.04 LTS. But the server won't start and complains about: "Unable to configure permitted SSL ciphers"
[16:08] <Guest98035> reisio, Well yes, but its about comfortability wheryre talking about, not what works and what does not. Then separate /home is more secure, IF yorue Linux actually get any virus, which it can.
[16:08] <reisio> hplc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Rsyncmirror
[16:08] <pk__> i renamed my /etc/init.d directory to something else.. now it wont boot..says it couldnot find /etc/init.d/rcS
[16:08] <beneter_> Also I'm not possible to activate TLSv1.2
[16:08] <fujipompon> reisio : that sounds parameters also display a "Digital Output (S/PDIF) / Internal audio, but I soon as I click on it  HDMI sound cuts and nothing plays through spdif...
[16:08] <beneter_> do I really have to compile apache by myself, or am i missing something?
[16:09] <reisio> Guest98035: because viruses can't copy themselves to other partitions?
[16:09] <Guest98035> beneter_, No? sudo apt-get install apache2.
[16:09] <reisio> pk__: rename it back
[16:09] <reisio> fujipompon: so don't click on that?
[16:09] <beneter_> Guest98035
[16:09] <Guest98035> reisio, Usually virus do not goes between partitions, but yes they can.
[16:09] <fujipompon> reisio :  ok...
[16:09] <reisio> Guest98035: ...
[16:10] <beneter_> Guest98035: I have done that... it is already up and running
[16:10] <beneter_> Guest98035: Server version: Apache/2.2.22 (Ubuntu)
[16:10] <pk__> reisio: bt there is no trminal now how o rename back
[16:11] <adamk> pk__: Boot from a live cd, mount the root partition and fix it...  And what would possess you to rename anything under /etc/  in the first place?
[16:12] <raven_> looking for DAB+ player - any ideas?
[16:12] <Guest98035> beneter_, Then wahts the prob?
[16:12] <SuperLag> When I look at the image files for these graphics, I'm not seeing any background on them.... but this Pomodoro icon on the panel (the tomato) shows up with a background. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/913175/pomodoro_icon.png
[16:12] <pk__> adamk: i agree that it was a mistake
[16:12] <SuperLag> Is that a configuration issue, or do I need to correct the imag?
[16:12] <SuperLag> image, that is
[16:13] <Guest98035> reisio, Usually hackers are using Linux themselfes and are paranoid, which make Linux quite safe :D
[16:13] <fujipompon> any idea of how can I use this spdif digital output? You look very buzy with a lot of people !
[16:13] <adamk> pk__: Well there's no doubt it's a mistake, whether you agree or not...  I'm just curious why you would have done such a thing?
[16:13] <pk__> adamk: but i used a damn small linux live cd..it says cannot mount /dev/hda5  cannot read superblock
[16:13] <beneter_> Guest98035: The Ciphers needed for PFS aren't supported
[16:14] <Guest98035> beneter_, use another web server?
[16:14] <beneter_> Guest98035: SSLCipherSuite TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_RC4_128_SHA:...
[16:14] <pk__> adamk: actually my computer was running good in single user mode and when i used to move to runlevel 2 then it hang..so i wanted to know what servie is causing hang so i renamed /etc/init.d :P
[16:14] <pk__> stupid i know
[16:15] <beneter_> Guest98035: why should I do this? ^^
[16:15] <fujipompon> reisio :  sorry to bother U with all that !
[16:15] <pk__> but now i got myself into a bigger problem :(
[16:15] <reisio> didn't even see it, 'bout time for sleep
[16:15] <Guest98035> beneter_, I dont know
[16:15] <dicaxa> It would be cute if a Canadian humped your asshole.
[16:16] <daftykins> 0o
[16:16] <dicaxa> I'm not saying you're a slut, but if your twat had a password, it would be 'password'.
[16:17] <daftykins> no password at all would be more apt :(
[16:18] <pk__> in order to rename my directory back..i have tried all this 1. run a live cd of damn small linux it wont mount my pext3 partition says cant read the superblock   2. in the grub prompt i can see and list my file system and can even see the /etc/initdbck which i want to rename but grub prompt wont provide any rename or mv command
[16:18] <fujipompon> reisio : any idea of other support forum where I could find some help ?
[16:19] <reisio> fujipompon: help with what?
[16:19] <reisio> pk__: try an Ubuntu live cd
[16:20] <rundaz>  installed libreoffice in lubuntu, then removed abiword and gnumeric. icon for abiword is gone. but icon for gnumeric is still in menu (even though nothing happens when click on it). how do i get rid of it (on all user accounts)?
[16:20] <pk__> my internet connection is to slow and cant afford to download ubuntu live cd :(
[16:20] <pfifo> shoot, I had a question but I had to fuss with SASL so so long I forgot what it was.
[16:21] <saiarcot895> rundaz: can you check ~/.local/share/applications if there is a file for Gnumeric there?
[16:21] <pk__> by the way is the command corrbect mount -t ext3 /dev/sda5 /mnt
[16:21]  * alfacard is backkk
[16:21] <alfacard> lewq lewq lewq lewq lewq lewq lewq lewq !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[16:22] <pfifo> ahh yes, What package is memcheck in?
[16:22] <ikonia> alfacard: please disable that away/back script
[16:22] <rundaz> saiarcot895: if there is, i must delete it?
[16:23] <fujipompon> reisio : to find a wau to fix that bloody digital output matter !!!
[16:23] <saiarcot895> rundaz: yes
[16:23] <fujipompon> reisio : what else do you think I'm here for ???
[16:23] <reisio> fujipompon: didn't you say you got it working?
[16:23] <reisio> pk__: mount /dev/sda5 /mnt should suffice
[16:24] <rundaz> saiarcot895: and will it delete it for all user accounts? or do i have to do it for every user?
[16:24] <pk__> reisio: hmm that too same error
[16:24] <saiarcot895> rundaz: you'll have to do it for every user, but do you know if every user has that icon as well?
[16:24] <fujipompon> reisio : no way I need SPDIF output !!! 'cause my HC amp has no HDMI input
[16:24] <saiarcot895> rundaz: also, is there a file there?
[16:25] <fujipompon> reisio : and my Tv sound is hugly !!!
[16:25] <pk__> how is it possible that my os is being loaded from the same partition but mount is unable to mount it
[16:26] <daftykins> pk__: seems pretty quirky that's for sure
[16:26] <rundaz> saiarcot895: i am in the guest session now and icant find the folder. but then in the guest session changes are not permanent...
[16:26] <rascul> rundaz check /usr/share/applications
[16:27] <pk__> even grub prompt can list all the files inside the partition..wish grub prompt had rename command inbuilt..:)
[16:28] <saiarcot895> rundaz: can you get into your user account, or an existing user account?
[16:29] <rundaz> yes it's /usr/share/applications and icon for gnumeric is there
[16:29] <pk__> is it possible to make ubuntu not look for /etc/init.d/rcS and give a shell instead?
[16:30] <saiarcot895> rundaz: in that case, you'll need to delete that file with sudo permissions
[16:30] <fujipompon> reisio : under W7 this little PC sends multichannel  sounds to this same HC Amp and it sounds great !!!
[16:31] <pk__> may be there is some parameters in bootloader which will directly take me to a shell
[16:31] <rundaz> but how do i delete it for the guest session? i mean changes are not saved there...
[16:31] <adamk> pk__: init=/bin/sh
[16:31] <adamk> pk__: That used to work...  Not sure if it still does.
[16:31] <pk__> where?
[16:32] <pk__> where do i write this?
[16:32] <adamk> You pass that to the kernel.
[16:32] <fujipompon> reisio : I'm so disappointed that free sofware is unable to do as well with teh same hardware !!!
[16:32] <rascul> rundaz delete /usr/share/applications/gnumeric.desktop
[16:32] <rascul> then it will be gone forever
[16:33] <pk__> linux ....... quiet splash init=/bin/sh     like that?
[16:33] <rundaz> for all users? even guest?
[16:33] <saiarcot895> rascul: you need sudo permissions to delete anything outside your home folder
[16:33] <saiarcot895> rascul: that being said, I'm not sure you can get sudo permissions on a guest account
[16:33] <adamk> pk__: Correct.
[16:33] <pk__> ok let me try
[16:34] <rundaz> could you please give me the exact command for terminal?
[16:34] <rascul> sudo rm /usr/share/applications/gnumeric.desktop
[16:34] <rascul> if you only have guest account then you likely won't be ablt to remove it
[16:35] <reisio> fujipompon: is it intel hd audio?
[16:35] <fujipompon> reisio : Not here anymore ? Or do I bored you with my question ?
[16:35] <rundaz> and later i will do it from the admin account. thank you. you people are great :)
[16:35] <rascul> yes, i am
[16:35] <pk__> h4rray
[16:36] <fujipompon> reisio :yes it is, with ACL 662 audio chipset it seems !
[16:36] <rundaz> but just out of curiosity.. why didnt the icon disappear when i disinstalled the program like for abiword)?
[16:37] <rascul> for some reason /usr/share/applications/gnumeric.desktop wasn't removed when the package was uninstalled
[16:37] <phogg> obvious broken package
[16:37] <rascul> if you can replicate it, it may be worth filing a bug
[16:38] <anonymuouss> broken!
[16:38] <rascul> or not, depending on how much beer you've drank today
[16:38] <phogg> if anything doesn't work perfectly at any time it's a bug, just not necessarily one that can be fixed easily
[16:38] <bazhang> !behelpful | rascul
[16:38] <pk__> adamk: got a #shell but while renamig it says read ony file system
[16:39] <adamk> pk__: Try 'mount -o rw /
[16:39] <rundaz> ok, bye bye :)
[16:40] <AchN30> hey.. any one can tell me how can i mount this mtdblock "Squashfs filesystem, big endian, lzma signature, version 3.1"
[16:41] <pk__> says /dev/sda5 alrady mountd
[16:41] <AchN30> mount image.squashfs block/ -o loop
[16:41] <AchN30> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0,        missing codepage or helper program, or other error        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try        dmesg | tail  or so
[16:42] <fujipompon> Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 06)
[16:42] <AchN30> SQUASHFS error: Can't find a SQUASHFS superblock on loop0
[16:43] <fujipompon> reisio : Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 06)
[16:43] <AchN30> mount image.squashfs block/ -o loop
[16:43] <AchN30> SQUASHFS error: Can't find a SQUASHFS superblock on loop0
[16:43] <AchN30> any help ??
[16:52] <adamk> pk__: Try 'mount -o remount,rw /'
[16:53] <pk__> mmm dne
[16:53] <pk__> hank u adamk
[16:54] <FrozenFire> https://gist.github.com/TheFrozenFire/c576f0afe120774eb9ff I'm having an issue where my system is apparently wanting to uninstall... just about everything. I previously had some issues with a broken ppa that forced me to remove a package forcibly using dpkg, and I recently made the mistake of installing Intel's package update tool.
[16:55] <FrozenFire> Any ideas as to how I can, at the very least, eliminate the marked removal of all of these packages?
[16:55] <abaddon> Hellooo guys, got a problem where Slim login manager says "failed to execute login command". This has happened after I changed my user account name. I made sure all it's permissions are set correct and that ownership of the files was switched over. But my system still refuses me access to my account. Ironically, I can still access the root account.
[16:56] <pk__> adamk: i have another problem because of which i did all this in first place..if you could help
[16:56] <Vinnie_win> What are the chances of easily installing boost 1.54 on my stock 12.04LTS?
[16:56] <pk__> adamk: problem is when i run my computer in single user mode it runs fine  but when i do init 2
[16:56] <pk__> then after a minute computer either hangs or reboot
[16:56] <pk__> how can i find what is causing that
[16:57] <eixV> you can't mount a 3.x squashfs image with squashfs 4.y in the kernel, your only chance is to unroll the beast with unsquashfs ...
[16:57] <eixV> you can't mount a 3.x squashfs image with squashfs 4.y in the kernel, your only chance is to unroll the beast with unsquashfs ...
[16:57] <A1Recon> How do i change the permissions of a file so that i can delete it? it needs root.
[16:59] <abaddon> A1Recon, cd to the directory that holds the file. type sudo chown yourAccountName File
[16:59] <rauch_> Hm... Anyone happen to come across an error when booting about cdc_acm?
[17:00] <abaddon> A1Recon, then type  rm FileToBeDeleted
[17:01] <eixV> Achn30: or an older kernel that is still on squashfs 3.x, recent ones have 4.y
[17:01] <abaddon> A1Recon, I just realized you could just type sudo rm FileToBeeleted
[17:02] <A1Recon> abaddon: Thanks!! You play Dota??
[17:02] <abaddon> A1Recon, Unless it's a folder and not a file. That would be sudo rmdir fileToBeDeleted
[17:02] <POVaddct> abaddon: creating or removing a file is a write operation on the directory which contains the file, not on the file itself. so the directory permissions must be set accordingly.
[17:03] <abaddon> A1Recon, Dota?
[17:03] <A1Recon> abaddon: Never mind....
[17:03] <POVaddct> abaddon: of course sudo rm will work anyway
[17:03] <abaddon> A1Recon, >.>
[17:05] <larrymo> gedit just got stuck, how do I kill it
[17:05] <A1Recon> abaddon: One more thing... I need to put another file in that folder... Dunno how? Paste is disabled in that folder
[17:06] <abaddon> POVaddct, IUf you own the file you have the permissions to remove it? So chowning it fixes the permission schemes. You could even add the user to the needed group and delete it that way
[17:07] <abaddon> A1Recon, cd to directory with file you want copyed to the directory
[17:07] <POVaddct> abaddon: no. if you own a file you can change its content. you can only remove it (without sudo) if the directory has the right permissions.
[17:07] <abaddon> A1Recon, type sudo cp FileToBeCopied /Directory/to/be copied to
[17:08] <A1Recon> abaddon: Thanks!! :)
[17:08] <bretfam> Hey guys. I'm the root user of my server running ubuntu 12.04 . Can I login on someone elses user account ?
[17:08] <abaddon> A1Recon, Glad to be of service
[17:09] <rypervenche> bretfam: su - username
[17:09] <Steve^> I had a working Grub, that happened to root Windows 7 via it's own bootloader, which I believe was actually on the old XP partition. I've now deleted the Windows XP partition, so the grub entry for Windows fails to find the partition it is looking for. - How can I force a grub reinstall to fix the Windows option?
[17:09] <reisio> 'foo"bar'"'"'baz'
[17:09] <reisio> oops
[17:09] <Steve^> reisio, nice password
[17:09] <newuser> Hi ! in mu ubuntu live usb not installed wifi support. what i must do? i have this system only and I don't have wired internet
[17:09] <abaddon> POVaddct, Mmmmm...okkaaayyy....
[17:09] <reisio> heh
[17:10] <holstein> Steve^: grub happened to root windows?
[17:10] <Steve^> holstein, sorry, *route :)
[17:10] <holstein> Steve^: i would just recover grub.. try running sudo update-grub
[17:11] <Steve^> holstein, ok, that did stuff, though didn't mention Windows.. I'll see if it worked
[17:11] <holstein> Steve^: 'stuff'? what did you do, friend?
[17:11] <bretfam> stuartrexking:  Thanks mate . su -l username :D
[17:11] <__crash_> "Error creating directory: Permission denied" when trying to create .themes folder in home directory
[17:11] <Abolfazl_Olaf> Hello everyone, Abolfazl_Olafhere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[17:12] <__crash_> what should i do? thanks
[17:12] <holstein> Steve^: and, how did you do it.. and what do you have? and what do you want?.. you have a lot of "variables" in your statement
[17:12] <abaddon> A1Recon, if the file is to be read or exacuted POVaddct may have a point. You might need to change the cp'd file permissions depending on what needs access to it. I'm not too sure on how that'\d work out. You can ask POVaddct if something doesn't work out
[17:13] <darpan> helo
[17:13] <xormor> did he DDoS himself?
[17:13] <newuser> how to install wifi support in my ubuntu without wired internet?
[17:13] <POVaddct> abaddon: hmm, i think he/she left
[17:13] <Casey> can someone help me out with trying to make a truecrypt device auto mount during bootup and tell the truecrypt program to auto start with ubuntu?
[17:13] <Steve^> holstein, I ran update-grub, I now don't have Windows in Grub at all :(
[17:14] <A1Recon> abaddon: OK
[17:14] <abaddon> POVaddct, XD Nope, not yet.
[17:15] <holstein> Steve^: where is windows? is the drive mounted? did you remove it?
[17:15] <POVaddct> abaddon: oh, i misread the nickname ( A1Recon vs. AlRecon ). damn font.
[17:15] <Steve^> holstein, /dev/sda1, I can mount it and it all looks fine
[17:16] <holstein> Steve^: "looks"? its either fine or its not. and if it were, we wouldnt be talking about it
[17:16] <abaddon> POVaddct, Alls good mate. I don't suppose you can help me with my problem? I can repost if needed.
[17:16] <holstein> Steve^: where is what version of windows? and is the drive mounted? and how did you try getting grub to see windows?
[17:16] <Steve^> holstein, in terms of files in a partition, it looks fine, I can navigate its files
[17:17] <POVaddct> abaddon: maybe. just repost.
[17:17] <holstein> Steve^: what looks fine? the windows partition? or drive? where is windows?
[17:17] <holstein> Steve^: on its own drive? is it mounted when you run "update-grub"?
[17:17] <abaddon> POVaddct,  I've got a problem where Slim login manager says "failed to execute login command". This has happened after I changed my user account name. I made sure all it's permissions are set correct and that ownership of the files was switched over. But my system still refuses me access to my account. Ironically, I can still access the root account.
[17:18] <Steve^> holstein, Windows 7 is on /dev/sda1, the files are all on that partition. I rebooted to see what Grub gave me, and it contained many linux installations, but not Windows. (When I ran update-grub it didn't mention Windows, so that wasn't surprising)
[17:18] <daftykins> Steve^: have you tried boot repair?
[17:18] <Steve^> holstein, /dev/sda has many things on it, not just Windows
[17:18] <holstein> Steve^: is the the only drive you have, friend? and is it mounted? when you run "sudo update-grub" ?
[17:18] <POVaddct> abaddon: how exactly did you change your accout name?
[17:18] <holstein> Steve^: many? whats on it?
[17:18] <Steve^> daftykins, no, because I can get into Linux, which is usually a better way to fix stuff?
[17:19] <daftykins> Steve^: sure but it'll scan the disk, spot windows and probably sort it right out
[17:19] <holstein> Steve^: i would try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair from a live CD
[17:19] <Matrix3000__> Anyone here know a way to have multiple LDAP groups be able to login using LDAP authentication. I can get it to work with all of the users in LDAP, but only want 3 groups to be able to login.
[17:19] <daftykins> Steve^: up to you naturally
[17:20] <Steve^> daftykins, ok, I used boot repair not too long ago, and it seemed to be a little out-of-date, I can get a new one
[17:20] <Steve^> holstein, update-grub does not mount the windows partition
[17:20] <abaddon> POVaddct, sudo usermod -l Rave abaddon   THEN sudo mv /home/abaddon /home/Rave
[17:21] <__crash_> help. how do i get permissions to make a .themes folder in /home/?
[17:21] <Steve^> holstein, this hard disk contains 2 linuxes in an extended partition, and Windows on sda1
[17:21] <larrymo> gedit is sitting and wont close, just a blank window
[17:21] <jrib> __crash_: usually that's done in $HOME (/home/username usually), not /home
[17:21] <abaddon> POVaddct,  THEN  sudo usermod -u 43 Rave
[17:21] <__crash_> ok. ill try that. thanks
[17:22] <holstein> Steve^: i would try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair from a live CD
[17:22] <abaddon> POVaddct,  After that sudo chown -R Rave Rave/
[17:22] <raven_> looking for DAB+ player - any ideas?
[17:22] <larrymo> kill -9 worked
[17:23] <jrib> abaddon: you're somehow using a username with capitalization?
[17:23] <abaddon> POVaddct,  jrib mmmmmm not atm as I can't access it
[17:24] <POVaddct> abaddon: like jrib said, i don't know if all tools like account names with capital letters in it.
[17:24] <jrib> abaddon: well you're saying you issued all those commands to "Rave" and not "rave".  Is that the case?
[17:24] <abaddon> jrib, yes sir and no errors came up ether??
[17:25] <abaddon> POVaddct, ahhh, ok?
[17:25] <jrib> abaddon: if I had to guess, that would be my guess as to why you are having isssues.  I'd change it to lowercase
[17:25] <POVaddct> abaddon: just a guess
[17:25] <suraj> hello friennds
[17:25] <rascul> file a bug if the application doesn't handle usernames with capitalization
[17:25] <suraj> hello
[17:26] <abaddon> jrib, POVaddct Ahhh... I was worried that'd be the case. T.T Darn
[17:26] <dfa14313> Do skype,yahoo other chat and social communication prog work 2 spoil muslim's youth and spy4isreal&usa???????
[17:26] <dfa14313> do they record and analyse every word we type????????????
[17:26] <dfa14313> Do chat prog spy 4 isreal&usa??????? Do chat prog spy 4 isreal&usa???????
[17:26] <dfa14313> هل يتجسس الشات لامريكا واسرائيل؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟
[17:26] <Steve^> holstein, gosh Sourceforce download of it is very slow :(
[17:26] <FloodBot1> dfa14313: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:26] <raven_> xubuntu on eeepc 1005ha: fn+f2 does not switch the wifi module physically any more - how to do that?
[17:26] <holstein> Steve^: of what? you run it from a live CD>. install it from the repos
[17:26] <jrib> abaddon: as a side note you probably need to sort issues with group membership but I don't think it would cause what you are describing
[17:27] <Steve^> holstein, downloading an .iso
[17:27] <holstein> Steve^: use the installer CD you have from installing ubuntu
[17:27] <mickhi> i have a hybrid gpu laptop(intel/nvidia) i followed these commands sudo add-apt-repository ppa:bumblebee/stable
[17:27] <mickhi> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[17:27] <mickhi> sudo apt-get update
[17:27] <mickhi> sudo apt-get install bumblebee bumblebee-nvidia
[17:27] <mickhi> sudo reboot
[17:27] <FloodBot1> mickhi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:27] <mickhi>  to install the nvidia driver now optirun is working
[17:28] <holstein> !ppa | mickhi
[17:28] <suraj> hello my dear friends
[17:28] <reisio> 'lo
[17:29] <mickhi> i can use optirun for my nvidia card to work but this is for a specific application only right?
[17:30] <holstein> mickhi: the ppa you are using is not officially supported here.. the graphics should work out of the box.. you might want to choose to add features that bumblebee provides
[17:30] <mickhi> holstein, before that nvidia gpu didn't work
[17:30] <A1Recon> Hey is it OK if I open up port 1900 UDP?? >> http://jjjjango.blogspot.in/2012/11/vlc-as-dlna-client-on-linux.html
[17:30] <abaddon> jrib, I did change group to root?
[17:30] <mickhi> holstein, i had to install the driver using these commands
[17:30] <holstein> mickhi: there are nvidia drivers in the repo
[17:30] <jrib> abaddon: I don't know what you mean by that
[17:30] <holstein> !nvidia
[17:31] <Matrix3000__> Anyone aware of how I can use pam_groupdn to enforce group membership requirements from ldap
[17:31] <holstein> mickhi: you *chose* to use the ppa.. and that is fine, but ppa's are not supported here
[17:31] <abaddon> jrib, i typed sudo chgrp root Rave/
[17:32] <jrib> abaddon: ok.  Usually on ubuntu the user has a primary group with the same name as his username (and that's the group that owns his home).  But this shouldn't cause the issues you are seeing
[17:32] <abaddon> the permission scheme is as follows jrib and POVaddct  drwxr-xr-x
[17:33] <POVaddct> abaddon: should be okay
[17:33] <jrib> abaddon: I would advise: 1) create a brand new user and verify slim works with him and then 2) if (1) is ok, change "Rave" to "rave"
[17:33] <abaddon> jrib, ahhh, when I tried doing that with Rave it said no such grp exists
[17:33] <chverma79> exec -o inxi -Fx
[17:33] <jrib> abaddon: you would have to create it
[17:34] <POVaddct> abaddon: or rename group abaddon to Rave
[17:34] <jrib> abaddon: if keeping the capital R is really important to you.  Then I would advise 1) checking slim logs and 2) creating a brand new user with a capital letter (you have to use some --force flag) and seeing if he works with slim
[17:34] <abaddon> jrib, POVaddct  How would I change grp abaddon to rave?
[17:35] <abaddon> jrib, It isn't I just figured itd be nicer for some reason
[17:35] <jrib> abaddon: there's groupmod just like there is usermod.  But I don't know if you have to do any bookkeeping afterwards
[17:35] <jrib> abaddon: the capital letter will be more of a pain to type :P
[17:37] <c31r2g_> !lxer
[17:38] <abaddon> jrib, mmmm, sudo groupmod abaddon rave gives me the help options for groupmod
[17:39] <abaddon> jrib,  wait, oops, bad syntax
[17:39] <hplc> trying to do the best of old hardware, but cant figure if raid0 or raid1 brings the most possible benefits, both same speed increase? (if any)
[17:40] <abaddon> jrib, POVaddct  Be back in a bit
[17:42] <hplc> or if putting swap onto own hdd and and own ide channel helps?, at all?
[17:42] <suraj> hello friends
[17:43] <c31r2g_> hello
[17:43] <daftykins> hi
[17:43] <c31r2g_> suraj
[17:45] <larrymo> where do I put files that have no significance, where do I save the to?
[17:45] <jrib> larrymo: anywhere you want in your HOME?
[17:45] <larrymo> ahh k
[17:46] <jrib> larrymo: I use ~/tmp for things that I don't care much about being deleted at any time
[17:47] <flipper88_fl> larrymo: /tmp userally
[17:48] <abaddon> jrib, POVaddct  Back guys, i'm just going to leave the groups as is. Wish me luck
[17:52] <Steve^> holstein, that was quite unsuccessful. It has installed a less visually attractive version of Grub, one that shows a massive confusing list of kernel options to choose from (the old one had an obvious choice and hid the rest)  and it still doesn't have Windows listed :(
[17:53] <skhyatt> hello....new here. can I ask a question?
[17:53] <Steve^> holstein, perhaps the "recommend" options were not quite suited for me, and I'll have to try again
[17:53] <Steve^> *recommended
[17:53] <abaddon> jrib, POVaddct  Yeeaahhh...it didn't work.
[17:53] <abaddon> crud
[17:53] <jrib> abaddon: "it"?
[17:53] <sa__> guys i have 2 os
[17:54] <sa__> how can i delete someone
[17:54] <abaddon> jrib, POVaddct sorry, login with lowercase account after I changed it
[17:54] <jrib> sa__: you want to DELETE A HUMAN BEING!??
[17:54] <reisio> skhyatt: do it
[17:54] <skhyatt> just installed an old version of Ubuntu, 8.1. Can I upgrade to the most recent version without any issues?
[17:54] <Casey> can someone help me out with trying to make a truecrypt device auto mount during bootup and tell the truecrypt program to auto start with ubuntu?
[17:55] <jrib> abaddon: create a new account (all lowercase) and try that
[17:55] <jrib> skhyatt: 8.10 you mean?
[17:55] <abaddon> jrib, POVaddct doing that right as we speak/
[17:55] <eixV> jrib: go brave with us non-native
[17:56] <skhyatt> yes
[17:56] <jrib> sa__: sorry, it's not clear what you are asking.  Please rephrase
[17:57] <skhyatt> Wondering if I can upgrade to the most recent version without any issues?
[17:57] <abaddon> jrib, POVaddct after creating the new account I'm assuming I don't need to reboot for it to take place?
[17:57] <theadmin> skhyatt: Unlikely. Will probably break somewhere along the way.
[17:58] <jrib> skhyatt: why don't you just start with a more recent version instead of installing a version that has been unsupported for several years (8.10)
[17:58] <pk__> found  the culprit...a service named "ondemand" as soon s it stars my computer freezes
[17:58] <abaddon> skhyatt,  Yeeaahh, don't try upgrading from 8.04 or 8.10
[17:58] <Mot_Johnie> Hello everyone, Mot_Johniehere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[17:58] <acidChrist> Hi everyone! I have set up virtual host for my localmachine and have forbidden 403. apache error losg telling me that apache is tryint to call .htaccess in my home directory what is a bit strange.
[17:58] <skhyatt> so just download and install over my current version?
[17:59] <abaddon> skhyatt,  just get a new iso of 12.04 or 13.04
[17:59] <eixV> sa__: so you want to purge one of your two os'es, procedure depends a bit on what those are. Mind you telling us?
[18:00] <skhyatt> okay, will try that. thanks for the help
[18:01] <abaddon> jrib, POVaddct If so, creating a new account didn't work....
[18:01] <flipper88_fl> is 13.04 the actural lts of the original ubunt?
[18:01] <jrib> abaddon: check slim logs
[18:02] <jrib> flipper88_fl: 13.04 is not LTS
[18:02] <abaddon> jrib,  right, will do. I just gotta fond 'em
[18:02] <eixV> 13.04 is not LTS, 12.04.2 is the latest
[18:02] <abaddon> jrib,  right, will do. I just gotta find 'em
[18:03] <flipper88_fl> thank you eixV
[18:04] <abaddon> jrib, just a quick thought, could slim still be owned by my old account?
[18:04] <Casey> Need help making truecrypt a startup application and would like to make a volume auto-mount during bootup.
[18:04] <jrib> abaddon: doesn't slim run as root?
[18:05] <ken-the-whiz> my dhcp isnt giving out ip address therefore no connection to net is being made
[18:05] <jrib> abaddon: can you log in at a virtual console to "rave"?  How about to the new user?
[18:05] <Steve^> I assume my XP partition contained valuable information for booting that my Windows 7 partition needed - and now Windows won't appear in Grub. I will try repairing from Windows I suppose...
[18:05] <ken-the-whiz> but auto eth0 is recognized
[18:06] <SuperLag> jrib++
[18:06] <abaddon> jrib,  I'm sure it did. but sense root is still accessable and not rave it could be owned by old account and still in the root grouip?? Anyway, new account didn't work ether. I can access root normally like a reguler account/desktop
[18:07] <abaddon> jrib, still looking for the Slim logs
[18:08] <dazru> installed webhttrack (in lubuntu) and icon is way out of size in menu (way too big). how can this be fixed?
[18:09] <Steve^> Any tips on repairing a Windows 7 boot loader, without a Windows 7 disk? :|
[18:09] <Dr_Willis> Steve^:  get a windows 7 disk, or try the system-rescue live cd
[18:10] <Dr_Willis> I belive MS has a legally 'free' windows 7 recovery/rescue iso you can download. Saw it mentioned on lifehacker web site once a few months back
[18:11] <Steve^> Dr_Willis, yea I think that's true, but it's hard to know which one it is :(
[18:11] <Dr_Willis> I belive the lifehacker site gave urls to the legal one.  Might have been a 32bit and a 64bit one.
[18:12] <Hichem> hello everyone
[18:12] <Dr_Willis> I got both iso files somewhere on a usb hd.. in my pile of stuff.
[18:12] <Steve^> dead links on Lifehacker :(
[18:12] <Dr_Willis> ask in #windows  they may know.
[18:13] <Dr_Willis> grab that system-rescue live cd while you are lookibng
[18:13] <Dr_Willis> http://www.sysresccd.org/SystemRescueCd_Homepage
[18:13] <abaddon> jrib, ok, not finding the logs.
[18:13] <jrib> abaddon: can you log in at a virtual console to "rave"?  How about to the new user?
[18:14] <magdur> #ubuntu-tr
[18:15] <SuperLag> hmm... if you were going to distribute audio with software, what format could you use, that didn't require installing extra software, on *both* Linux and Windows, *and* include license headaches? (don't you have to have a license to distribute audio in MP3 format?)
[18:15] <abaddon> jrib, Slim lets me login fine as root. Slim gives the same error for my new account called test
[18:15] <SuperLag> and not include license headaches, that is
[18:15] <jrib> abaddon: yes, now see if you can log in at a virtual console (ctrl-alt-f1)
[18:15] <Casey> Need help making truecrypt a startup application and would like to make a volume auto-mount during bootup.
[18:16] <Dr_Willis> SuperLag:  the #gpl channel may have some suggestions. Im thinking .ogg
[18:16] <Dr_Willis> http://www.vorbis.com/faq/#flic
[18:16] <Dr_Willis> The Ogg Vorbis specification is in the public domain. It is completely free for commercial or noncommercial use
[18:17] <sevenforall> Hey
[18:18] <ggabriel96> hey guys
[18:18] <abaddon> jrib,  huh...when i press ctrl+alt+f1 it says Abaddon login. Trying to ogin to rave says HOME=/
[18:18] <sevenforall> I'm on vacation, and I'm using a hotspot. Ubuntu often fails to connect to it, yet sometimes, it succeeds.
[18:18] <ggabriel96> daftykins: you there?
[18:18] <jrib> abaddon: and with new user?
[18:18] <sevenforall> Any idea why it's so randomly unstable?
[18:18] <abaddon> jrib,  not tried it yet, rebooting comp
[18:19] <Dr_Willis> sevenforall:  could be interfearance from other wireless devices.
[18:19] <jrib> abaddon: just log out :P
[18:19] <ggabriel96> reisio: you there?
[18:19] <daftykins> ggabriel96: sorta
[18:19] <sevenforall> Dr_Willis: Well, that usually explains it, but that doesn't explain why it's much more stable on Windows...
[18:19] <abaddon> jrib,  errr...well...I don't know how to do that through cmd....
[18:19] <SuperLag> Dr_Willis: but I don't think Windows Media Player will play Ogg, out of the box.
[18:19] <Dr_Willis> sevenforall:  it may be luck. or selecting other channels automatically
[18:19] <ggabriel96> Dr_Willis: or maybe u?
[18:19] <reisio> ggabriel96: hi
[18:19] <Dr_Willis> SuperLag:  no idea. I dont use windows media player.
[18:19] <ggabriel96> oh 2 of you are here :D
[18:19] <ggabriel96> 3 o.o wow
[18:19] <abaddon> jrib,  And I was too proud to ask... XD
[18:19] <SuperLag> Dr_Willis: me neither :)
[18:20] <sevenforall> Dr_Willis: I tried it quite often... often enough to say this isn't really luck anymore
[18:20] <Dr_Willis> SuperLag:  given how the codec is totally unrestricted you could include any codec pack for it - if needed
[18:20] <jrib> abaddon: heh, you can use ctrl-d (EOF) or type "exit"
[18:20] <ggabriel96> daftykins and reisio: well I don't know if you guys remember my story about the virtual machine and replace win7 with win8
[18:20] <Dr_Willis> Windows media player - is like a fancy car given to you for free.. that you cant stand to drive.
[18:20] <jrib> abaddon: you could also just use a different virtual console (you should have one with ctrl-alt-f1-6)
[18:20] <daftykins> ggabriel96: yeah what's new?
[18:20] <reisio> ggabriel96: nope
[18:20] <abaddon> jrib,  when i type exit it just closes terminal
[18:21] <jrib> abaddon: yep, and should give you another login prompt in a virtual console
[18:21] <SuperLag> Dr_Willis: but if I'm going to suggest to $DEV that he package something other than WAV, then I need to suggest something that will work out-of-the-box, with both Windows and Linux, since his package works on both platforms
[18:21] <SuperLag> Dr_Willis: amen to that :)
[18:21] <ggabriel96> daftykins and reisio: I just did that and as I expected, after win8 install, I couldn't boot into ubuntu anymore. so I reinstalled grub with live usb as the guide says and now everything's fine. so if that happened to the virtual machine, it will happen if I do it in my real machine too, right?
[18:21] <Dr_Willis> SuperLag:  ive learnd to not expect anything to work out of the box with windows.
[18:21] <Dr_Willis> SuperLag:  i recall having to install extra stuff for mp3's at one time on windows.
[18:21] <daftykins> ggabriel96: i don't really think they'll act identically
[18:21] <reisio> ggabriel96: probably
[18:22] <SuperLag> Dr_Willis: yeah, and you have to install extra stuff for WAV to work on Ubuntu
[18:22] <daftykins> ggabriel96: but that would likely be your process no matter what
[18:22] <ken-the-whiz> dhcp isnt giving ip address but auto eth0 is recognized also tried to down and up eth0 any help?
[18:22] <abaddon> jrib,  when loging in a test it says the same thing as rave. no directory logging in with HOME=/
[18:22] <Dr_Willis> SuperLag:  wav? cant say ive noticed.. but no matter what you use. there WILL be some people that yhave to install extra cruft. or they may allready have some mega-codec pack installed that may casue other issues (seen that befor on windows)
[18:22] <robin0800> rw4452
[18:23] <jrib> abaddon: ok, good.  So what's the output of « getent passwd test » and « ls -ld / /home /home/test »?
[18:23] <gordonjcp> SuperLag: uhm
[18:23] <ggabriel96> daftykins and reisio: well. thanks a lot for your support guys! Ill do that and I hope it will work too and  I don't screw up everything as this is the last day of my vacations hehe
[18:23] <gordonjcp> SuperLag: since when have you needed to install anything for .wav to work in Ubuntu?
[18:23] <daftykins> ggabriel96: good luck :)
[18:23] <ken-the-whiz> ken-the-whiz: dhcp isnt giving ip address but auto eth0 is recognized also tried to down and up eth0 any help?
[18:23] <Dr_Willis> SuperLag:  as for windows media player - its mentioned here --> http://www.vorbis.com/setup_windows/
[18:23] <jrib> gordonjcp: I was surprised too
[18:23] <ggabriel96> see you later! thanks :D
[18:23] <SuperLag> gordonjcp: I don't know how long it has been that way.... but I just had to install codecs for it to work on 13.04 and 13.10
[18:23] <abaddon> jrib,  T.T Hardly "good". Am i to login as root and run this command?
[18:23] <gordonjcp> SuperLag: bollocks
[18:24] <jrib> abaddon: sure.
[18:24] <SuperLag> gordonjcp: okay, so call me a liar, then. might polite of you.
[18:24] <gordonjcp> SuperLag: unless you're doing something really, really weird, .wav playback works out-of-the-box
[18:24] <jrib> abaddon: it's only not
[18:24] <Dr_Willis> I think SuperLag  ment .mp3 not .wav :)
[18:24] <gordonjcp> SuperLag: I am on a freshly-installed 13.10 machine *right now*
[18:24] <SuperLag> no, I meant .wav
[18:24] <gordonjcp> .wav files play just fine
[18:24] <gordonjcp> SuperLag: what *exactly* are you trying to do?
[18:24] <jrib> abaddon: it's only not when you do something to determine whether it's X or Y and you end up more confused
[18:25] <SuperLag> gordonjcp: run a Java app with some WAV files included
[18:25] <Dr_Willis> .wav  format  has always played for me on linux with no hassles - for years.. the file format just stinks. :)
[18:25] <sevenforall> Dr_Willis: I checked. The hotspot I'm on is the only wireless network available here.
[18:25] <gordonjcp> SuperLag: okay, and what did you have to install to get it to work?
[18:25] <Dr_Willis> would a java app even use the system audio.video codecs?
[18:25] <SuperLag> I had to install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:25] <gordonjcp> Dr_Willis: no
[18:26] <gordonjcp> SuperLag: okay, but can you play back the .wav files outside of the Java applet?
[18:26] <SuperLag> Dr_Willis: said app packages .wav files with it
[18:26] <gordonjcp> SuperLag: this sounds like Java broken-ness
[18:26] <SuperLag> gordonjcp: double-clicked on them... and NOTHING
[18:27] <gordonjcp> SuperLag: I don't know what you're doing wrong then, because .wav playback is supported just fine on Ubuntu
[18:27] <Dr_Willis> bbl.
[18:27] <gordonjcp> SuperLag: about the only thing I can think of is that installing sox doesn't install .wav codecs, but then it doesn't install *any* codecs of any sort by default
[18:27] <abaddon> jrib,  TTrue true. OK getent passwd test says test :x:1000:1001:/home/test:/bin/sh
[18:27] <SuperLag> gordonjcp: sox?
[18:28] <jrib> abaddon: good ;)
[18:28] <gordonjcp> SuperLag: audio conversion tool
[18:28] <gordonjcp> SuperLag: you likely don't need it, but it does provide command-line audio playback and editing tools
[18:30] <abaddon> jrib,  And ls -ld / /home /hometest gives drwxr-xr-x root root /       drwxr-xr-x root root /home   and it says cannot access /home/test no such file or dir
[18:31] <SuperLag> gordonjcp: I was just going to suggest to the author of this Java app that he package something other than WAV... but I guess it's the least-encumbered option
[18:31] <abaddon> jrib,  And ls -ld / /home /home/test gives drwxr-xr-x root root /       drwxr-xr-x root root /home   and it says cannot access /home/test no such file or dir
[18:31] <jrib> abaddon: what about ls -ld /home/rave?
[18:31] <abaddon> sorry typo in what i put
[18:31] <gordonjcp> SuperLag: it's probably because Java is fundamentally retarded and has no audio support
[18:31] <gordonjcp> SuperLag: what's the app, anyway?
[18:31] <TheUsD> Need help making truecrypt a startup application and would like to make a volume auto-mount during bootup. I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS server 64bit. The device I would like to auto mount is a raid1 off of a raid controller.
[18:32] <abaddon> jrib,  drwxr-xr-x rave abaddon /home/rave
[18:32] <jrib> abaddon: getent passwd rave
[18:32] <abaddon> jrib,  mind it says abaddon 'cause i changed it back from root
[18:32] <SuperLag> gordonjcp: it's a Pomodoro timer app
[18:33] <SuperLag> gordonjcp: tomighty
[18:34] <gordonjcp> SuperLag: I'm none the wiser here
[18:34] <abaddon> jrib,  rave:x:32:1000:abaddon,,,:/home/abaddon:/bin/bash
[18:34] <jrib> abaddon: ok, test is failing because you never created a home for him.  rave is failing because you need to update the location of his home to /home/rave
[18:35] <abaddon> jrib,  but i mv'd /home/abaddon to /home/rave ???
[18:35] <jrib> abaddon: yes, but the passwd file still tells the system that rave's home is /home/abaddon
[18:36] <abaddon> jrib,  ahhhh, i'm gitting that. ok sir, how shall i proceed?
[18:36] <jrib> abaddon: you can update rave's home location either by using usermod -d (check man page) or by (carefully) editing /etc/passwd
[18:36] <magdur> #docker
[18:37] <abaddon> jrib,  lets go for the eassyer one
[18:37] <jrib> abaddon: which one is that? :P
[18:37] <abaddon> jrib,  please guide me in proceeding
[18:37] <abaddon> jrib,  one will the leastn ammount of typing
[18:37] <abaddon> jrib,  one with the least ammount of typing?
[18:38] <jrib> abaddon: usermod -d /home/rave rave
[18:40] <abaddon> jrib, logedin fine via alt ctrl f1
[18:40] <jrib> abaddon: k, now try slim
[18:41] <abaddon> jrib, waiting for reboot of sys so slim will start
[18:41] <TheUsD> Need help making truecrypt a startup application and would like to make a volume auto-mount during bootup. I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS server 64bit. The device I would like to auto mount is a raid1 off of a raid controller.
[18:42] <abaddon> jrib,  awww yeahh, back in business
[18:45] <abaddon> jrib,  thank you sooo much!!!
[18:45] <jrib> abaddon: no problem
[18:48] <jasunto> ubuntu 13.04, is iSCSI better or nfs?
[18:48] <pfifo> Im running 12.04 when I try to install flashplugin-installer It says I cannont resolve deps, the dep in question is libnspr4-0d... I have a pastebin http://fpaste.org/30041/75642059/
[18:49] <jasunto> ubuntu 13.04, is iSCSI better or nfs? <--- Which performs better on linux?
[18:50] <abaddon> jrib,  I don't suppose you've used Synergy? The program that'll share a mouse and keybord between two computers?
[18:50] <jrib> abaddon: I haven't used it personally, no.  But I'm sure lots of users here have, so just ask your question and see if they can help
[18:50] <pvl1> jasunto: iscsi
[18:51] <pvl1> jasunto: wait i missread that
[18:51] <pvl1> i would say nfs is easier to set up. the speeds depend on your network
[18:51] <trism> pfifo: apt-cache policy libnspr4-0d;
[18:51] <abaddon> jrib,  Aight, one more question. Do you use Dropbox?
[18:51] <jrib> abaddon: no
[18:52] <hplc> eh just found an ancient old SDHC card size 16Mb, anyone up for the challenge to what i can use it for? :D i cant think of any emergency linux that size at all
[18:52] <abaddon> jrib,  ahhh bummer. Thanks again =]
[18:52] <jrib> abaddon: no problem
[18:52] <mudkip908> hplc: tinycore? also 16mb is not sdhc
[18:52] <jasunto> im using 13.04, my NAS supports NFS and iSCSI, just wondering which would be best
[18:53] <pfifo> trism, http://fpaste.org/30042/75642369/
[18:53] <Refo> where pgp channel?
[18:53] <trism> pfifo: looks like it is there, what about if you try to install it
[18:53] <jasunto> gig throughout
[18:53] <hplc> hmm "Toshiba SD 16mb sd memory card"
[18:53] <Refo> hey?
[18:54] <pfifo> trism, install what?
[18:54] <Refo> give please
[18:54] <trism> pfifo: libnspr4-0d
[18:54] <DJones> !alis | Refo
[18:54] <Refo> wherre?
[18:54] <Refo> what?
[18:54] <hplc> mudkip908, tinycore? what is that?
[18:55] <mudkip908> hplc: http://www.tinycorelinux.net/
[18:55] <Refo> i not undestand how serach chanel?
[18:55] <Refo> pgp lease
[18:55] <mudkip908> hplc: a basic graphical system is 12mb
[18:55] <Refo> p
[18:55] <reisio> hplc: it's a GNU/Linux distro designed for hard drive capacities of the 80s
[18:56] <Marlene> apt-get install error == http://bpaste.net/show/XFy9HIkYNYSh2ODl6eVt/
[18:56] <Refo> cry
[18:56] <MonkeyDust> Refo  ask your question in full sentences instead of random words, please
[18:56] <pfifo> trism, at first this http://fpaste.org/30043/75642507/ but then after that I used dpkg -i to install an older version of flashplugin-installer, and now it wants me to run apt-get install -f to remove the 'broken' package (which actually works just fine)
[18:56] <Refo> i want pgp
[18:57] <Refo> irc
[18:57] <Sc0tty-> MonkeyDust, I dont think he is very good at english
[18:57] <levubis> @ Marlene : try apt-get update and upgrade after install
[18:57] <DJones> Refo: Either use the info Ubottu gave you to search for IRC channels, or join #freenode, they may know the channel
[18:57] <MonkeyDust> Refo  what is your own language?
[18:57] <killmaker> hi
[18:58] <James_Epp> Is there an updated guide for this? Preferably for 12.04.2   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[18:58] <reisio> killmaker: 'lo
[18:58] <trism> pfifo: yeah the problem is you have libnspr4 from -updates but you are trying to install libnspr4-0d from -release
[18:58] <reisio> James_Epp: sure it doesn't work?
[18:58] <gordonjcp> James_Epp: it's pretty much the same
[18:58] <trism> pfifo: might be easiest just to reenable -updates in software-properties-gtk or whatever
[18:59] <James_Epp> gordonjcp: reisio: When I select "Finish partitioning and write changes to disk" it comes back: No root partition selected. I could probably figure it out, but hey -- better get a more step-by-step guide if I can, seeing as how this is the first time I have done this.
[18:59] <Te3-BloodyIron> i just unmounted a partiiton on a flash drive, and now the flash drive isn't recognized in the BIOS or the devices
[18:59] <Te3-BloodyIron> wtf
[18:59] <Te3-BloodyIron> :(
[18:59] <reisio> mmm