[00:06] <eafigg> hello everyone=)
[00:06] <eafigg> hoping someone can help me to get my wifi dongle working in ubuntu 12.04
[00:06] <eafigg> its a wg111t
[00:07] <fluzios> eafigg: would be fun if everyone in here decided to say hello back ^^
[00:08] <eafigg> fluzios, yea really
[00:09] <eafigg> fluzios, can ya offer any help in my situation?
[00:09] <hydester_> anybody know how to use /etc/hosts.allow for tomcat?  i prefer to do it at the os level
[00:10] <fluzios> eafigg: googling and reading about it, not so much info specificly for 12.04; and i got no driver install experience
[00:11] <fluzios> eafigg: maybe https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/WG111T
[00:11] <bhast2> well did a reinstall of Ubuntu to fix my video stuff
[00:12] <bhast2> Can't believe I had to do that to fix Nivida stuff
[00:12] <bekor> ng ready to reinstall  ubuntu 12.04 unless someone can tell me how to get media players to start working again banshee ,rythmbox movieplayer.nothing works
[00:12] <Box-AngrySpam98> Anybody know a place that i can advertise my channel? (##powdabomb2)
[00:12] <Box-AngrySpam98> :P
[00:13] <keruna>  i am trying to run pianobar. at login i get error: newtwork
[00:13] <keruna>                 error: TLS read faild. I have googled but not come up with
[00:13] <keruna>                 much. just wondered if any of that means anything to someone.
[00:13] <keruna>                 thx
[00:13] <FloodBot1> keruna: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:13] <subcool> can someone kinda assist me with mounting a NFS? im not familiar enough with the basic commands..
[00:13] <keruna>  i am trying to run pianobar. at login i get error: newtwork
[00:13] <keruna>                 error: TLS read faild. I have googled but not come up with
[00:13] <keruna>                 much. just wondered if any of that means anything to someone.
[00:13] <keruna>                 thx
[00:13] <FloodBot1> keruna: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:13] <ClientAlive> trying to set up aliases in .bash_aliases but it not working. Can someone please help?
[00:14] <ClientAlive> I've seen the tutorials online and everything looks to be right but still not working.
[00:14] <fluzios> ClientAlive: have you restarted the shell?
[00:14] <ClientAlive> I restarted the whole computer, is that sufficient?
[00:14] <ClientAlive> it tells me command not found
[00:14] <fluzios> 3 times i hope?
[00:14] <Box-AngrySpam98> Anybody know a place that i can advertise my channel? (##powdabomb2)
[00:15] <UbuntuBookPro> I started with a ~900 gig partition for Ubuntu. I've downloaded around 5 gigs, which Nautilus reports, but Nautilus also says I have only 700 gigs remaining. What's going on? [Ubuntu 12.04 on MacBookPro.]
[00:15] <papashou> hello what are you trying to dO?
[00:15] <ClientAlive> 3 times?
[00:15] <demonspork> ClientAlive: 3 time was a joke
[00:15] <fluzios> ClientAlive: can you pastebin .bash_aliases, .bashrc and maybe .bash_profile
[00:16] <ClientAlive> It says this: http://pastebin.com/h71kphvu
[00:16] <ClientAlive> sure I can - one moment
[00:17] <ClientAlive> please remind me how to run the pastebinit command - is it...   <command> | pastebinit  ?
[00:18] <fluzios> ClientAlive: or just check that you have this in your .bashrc http://pastebin.com/6qWx4VFk
[00:18] <fluzios> and yes
[00:18] <fluzios> cat .bashrc | pastebinit
[00:18] <subcool> how do i test to see if my NFS Host is properly setup?
[00:19] <ClientAlive> .bashrc here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1195736/   and .bash_aliases here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1195737/
[00:20] <fluzios> " instead of '
[00:20] <fluzios> first line last char
[00:20] <ClientAlive> I know one of my aliases has double quotes and that's wrong - I was testing
[00:21] <ClientAlive> but it is update='sudo apt-get update' that I try to run on the command line and get command not found
[00:21] <jrib> ClientAlive: you need to actually use the "alias" command
[00:21] <jrib> ClientAlive: (like all the examples in your ~/.bashrc)
[00:21] <ClientAlive> ohhh!!! I remember now! thank you thank you
[00:21] <fluzios> =)
[00:22] <tprice> can i use lvm on an install that was not instlled with lvm?
[00:22] <ClientAlive> how stupid of me - i've done this successfully before just forgot
[00:22] <Iron> hello, I have a new problem: Whenever i try to turn ubuntu off, it hangs on the shutting down screen. I have to force it to turn off.
[00:23] <zephyr> whats the default network tool when you finish the server installer?
[00:23] <ClientAlive> now how do you restart the shell without restarting the whole computer??  /etc/init.d/<something>  ??
[00:24] <tprice> anyone?
[00:24] <fluzios> ClientAlive: start a new window?
[00:24] <demonspork> ClientAlive: close the terminal window that you have open
[00:24] <demonspork> and open a new one
[00:24] <ClientAlive> oh. right one
[00:24] <fluzios> ClientAlive: also, when changing aliases you can just run: source .bash_aliases
[00:24] <ClientAlive> right on
[00:25] <papashou> Hello is there activity ?
[00:25] <ClientAlive> one last question. I saw someone wrote that if you put the aliases file in /etc/ and you name it something like bash.aliases.local it will then work for root and user. Does that sound right? How do you make it work for both root and user?
[00:28] <ClientAlive> yeah, because my aliases work ok as user but not if I log in as root (I sometimes work as root if I have a lot to do that requires admin privs).
[00:30] <subcool> how do i test to see if my NFS Host is properly setup?
[00:31] <ClientAlive> Anyone on how to make aliases work for both root and user with just one aliases file??
[00:32] <papashou> I am always logged into root, whenever I log into my boxens
[00:32] <papashou> I do have about 80 boxens for work.  It is glorious.
[00:32] <fluzios> ClientAlive: http://7enn.com/2011/02/20/how-to-make-your-bash-aliases-available-as-a-root-in-ubuntu/
[00:33] <ash_> Elow, what up anybody Online?
[00:33] <papashou> We're all online.  Whether we're here or not is debatable.
[00:33] <ClientAlive> oh. cool, thx
[00:33] <papashou> ClientAlive: what exactly are you trying to achieve?  You can always edit the /etc/profile script- that gets loaded by all userlogins
[00:33] <papashou> Or at least, usually does- on RHEL
[00:35] <jamster> help
[00:35] <blackshirt> what you need jamster
[00:35] <ClientAlive> omg that's so simple!  I occasionally log in as root to do the stuff I need to (when I have lots to do that needs admin priveledges) I want to use the same alias names to execute the same command but so it makes no difference if I log in as root or as user. So they work either way.
[00:36] <jamster> I have an external usd hard drive 500 gb how do I resize it for booting up from it? preceeding space or the other one in gparted
[00:37] <spartan> hi guys
[00:37] <jamster> I have the other space for the iso file of my hard drive ddrescue
[00:37] <blackshirt> you mean install on it jamster?
[00:37] <spartan> I was hoping someone could help me install cinnamon
[00:37] <jamster> no not an install
[00:37] <blackshirt> Hi spartan
[00:37] <blackshirt> Spartan, are you using mint?
[00:38] <jamster> a cloned back up of ubuntu from ddrescue blackshirt
[00:38] <Guest3924> I've install cinnamon before, however, I'm running the powerpc version of kubuntu
[00:38] <ClientAlive> fluzios: wouldn't it make more sense to switch the order of what's in those file (at the link you gave me)? To put what it say for /root/.bashrc into ~/.bashrc and put your .bash_aliases in /root  ??
[00:38] <ClientAlive> then you caould have any user be able to access them?
[00:39] <standarshy> Sorry for those name changes
[00:39] <blackshirt> jamster, sorry for my stupidity... I think You can do it
[00:40] <fluzios> ClientAlive: other users probably shouldn't have access to root's files
[00:41] <ClientAlive> oh, yeah. That makes sense. Just seemd like an odd way to set it up (what's at the link). I also thought about putting it /etc/.bash_aliases  then mod /root/.bashrc and ~/.bashrc accordingly. I suppose I may need to consider perms or other security measures if I did that though?
[00:44] <Aristide> GOod night o/
[00:45] <standarshy> Hi yall, can anyone here help me install cinnamon on powerpc?
[00:45] <fluzios> ClientAlive: putting it in /etc/bash.bash_aliases would probably be fine (i would recommend the bash prefix instead of just .bash_aliases)
[00:47] <ClientAlive> fluzios: ok. I think I should remove all perms from work too though. What do you think?
[00:47] <ClientAlive> I meant "world"
[00:48] <ClientAlive> make it to be -rw-r-----
[00:50] <subcool> Help with NFS Please...
[00:51] <subcool> i've edited the /etc/exports file
[00:51] <subcool> but when i try to start the server, i get erros
[00:51] <subcool> errors
[00:51] <randomDude> !enter
[00:52] <fluzios> ClientAlive: that's fine, and having read for all users shouldn't be a problem unless you put passwords or such in there
[00:52] <subcool> job-working-directory: error retrieving current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent directories: No such file or directory
[00:52] <intoubuntu> Anyone have an app idea they would like to see created for Ubuntu?
[00:52] <papashou> subcool:  what errors? -- make sure the directories exist.
[00:53] <papashou> do an ls -lad on the directory you've specified in /etc/exports
[00:53] <subcool> papashou, the directory exists
[00:53] <ClientAlive> cool
[00:53] <papashou> then ensure that the service has perm to read every directory above it.
[00:53] <papashou> in fact, it needs +x to it.
[00:54] <subcool> papashou, uh ...
[00:54] <subcool> drwxr-xr-x 10 root root 4096 Sep  8 00:13 .
[00:54] <papashou> that dir is?
[00:54] <Kinks> Hi. Does anyone know if there is a way to invert screen colors in Ubuntu 12.04?
[00:54] <subcool> Im just sharing mounted External HDD"s - they are apart of the Media directory
[00:54] <Kinks> I tried to activate the compiz effect but it seems not to work with Unity
[00:55] <intoubuntu> Any interest in staring an open source Python application in Python?
[00:55] <papashou> lets say you have /some/path/media
[00:56] <papashou> hem some mesgs didn't' go thru
[00:56] <papashou> lets say you have /some/path/media - you need to make sure /some and /some/path also have +x permission to the NFS service user (probably root)
[00:57] <Kinks> just found a way. Let me share: "xcalib -invert -alter"
[00:58] <jerry_l> hello
[00:58] <subcool> papashou, well, i had /media/HDD set for NFS- but then realized all my HDD's are in the Media directory, so i just removed the HDD part and left it so my entire "/media" directory is shared.. now my server is running.
[00:58] <Meris> High time for bed, thanks for the nice atmosphere...
[00:58] <subcool> how do i change the folders beneath /media to +x
[01:00] <ClientAlive> fluzio: I must not be doing this right. I'm having a bit of trouble recognizing the pattern at the link you shared and applying it to what I was experimenting with.
[01:00] <papashou> are your external drives loading up as the currently logged in user?  e.g.  "subcool:subcool" ?
[01:01] <subcool> papashou, got me
[01:01] <papashou> open a term and type "ls -la /media"
[01:01] <subcool> yea, they r.
[01:01] <papashou> quite honestly i can't envision it right now because i'm on Mac OSX- i'm currently rebuilding my Ubuntu machine.
[01:02] <papashou> does it have +x on the third set of bits ?
[01:02] <subcool> im trying to build a OSx86 device..
[01:02] <subcool> papashou, no
[01:03] <papashou> then that is why.
[01:03] <pepperjack> you want to recursively change everything under /media to be executable?  that seems a little drastic
[01:03] <subcool> but at the same time- now that there arent any errors on the server side, i still cant add them to the client.
[01:03] <papashou> no, the NFS server won't complain at all.  it just won't see it.
[01:04] <subcool> it was complaining at first
[01:04] <subcool> thats now i got the error
[01:04] <ash_> UBUNTU is Updating
[01:04] <papashou> you can edit the /etc/fstab file to mount it with a certain umask
[01:05] <papashou> so we can read/write it on NFS.
[01:05] <papashou> or if you just want read permission
[01:05] <subcool> i was reading about the fstab
[01:06] <subcool> right now im using the mount option-
[01:06] <papashou> so if you plug it in- it will automatically mount it, usually, thanks to udev
[01:06] <subcool> but- it when i run the command, nothing happens.
[01:06] <papashou> unless you're using an old ubuntu or not a ubuntu flavor
[01:06] <fluzios> ClientAlive: maybe easier to just copy the files, and update both manualy
[01:07] <subcool> papashou, well, with the hell ive been getting from ubuntu- i might move on pretty soon.
[01:07] <subcool> but, not JUSt yet..
[01:07] <papashou> you need to do umount; then mount -o umask=022 /device /path (for example)
[01:08] <subcool> ive been doing... as per the 5 guides ive been boucning off of
[01:08] <papashou> yes you may call ubuntu hell, but as far as Linux goes, it's very automatic, and does more for its user than most other flavors.
[01:08] <papashou> as root? or sudo?
[01:08] <subcool> sudo mount <IP_ADDRESS>:/media /home/subcool/NetworkDrives/Storage
[01:08] <Nogal> Hey there, I've got a quick question... How do I set up a network bridge-like setup for a setup like this: <client> LAN <laptop> WLAN <router>   ... which retains internet access on the laptop as well as the client computer?
[01:08] <subcool> papashou, yea, thats why i came to them to begin with. but now they are acting like mandriva..
[01:08] <ClientAlive> fluzios: yes and no. My intention is to sync these file between two computer once I have it set up on the one. I was hoping to centrally locat the aliases file then sync it and both of the .bashrc files.
[01:09] <papashou> subcool: you need to mount it properly on the server side
[01:09] <ClientAlive> I just don't get how to modify the function do they call it a function in bash?) that's in the .bashrc files.
[01:09] <papashou> sudo mount <IP_ADDRESS>….etc is the client side and you'er fine there
[01:09] <subcool>  it just stalls
[01:10] <papashou> on HOST <IP_ADDRESS>- what is the content of /etc/exports
[01:10] <Grivvel> Heya! I'm having a problem with 12.04 on my Acer Aspire Revo. The audio-in (microphone) device doesn't show up in any of the GUI device managers and doesn't seem to work. I've tried searching google, but haven't been able to find any solutions. Does anyone know where to go from here?
[01:10] <jeep> i love nfs its one of the greatout *nixest things ab
[01:10] <subcool> papashou, /media *(rw,sync,no_root_squash,no_subtree_check)
[01:10] <papashou> OK,  on a device below /media
[01:11] <papashou> on that same host- what is the permission?
[01:12] <subcool> ls -la /media
[01:12] <subcool>  drwx------ 11 subcool subcool  4096 Aug 23 01:18 Storage
[01:12] <Dark-Magician-Gi> Could someone help me with something? My desktop as 2 drives. On one drive, I have a fresh copy of windows xp. I would like to install ubuntu on the other drive but can't seem to get it to work. I created a partition on the blank drive for ubuntu and selected the 'ext 4' filesystem (it was default). It keeps asking me to set a root when I click install though. I selected '/boot' from the list
[01:12] <Dark-Magician-Gi> and it still says I need to select one.
[01:12] <papashou> so do "sudo chmod +x /media/Storage
[01:12] <papashou> "
[01:12] <fluzios> ClientAlive: The bashrc just checks if a alias file exists, then "load" it
[01:12] <papashou> sorry.. chmod ugo+x Storage
[01:13] <papashou> then a service nfsd restart (or /etc/init.d/nfsd restart)
[01:13] <ash_> is there any way to remove that bar on the left? and put it into default mode? i am on ubuntu 12.04
[01:13] <subcool> papashou, i already ran the previous command, how do i fix it
[01:13] <papashou> been in RHEL mode lately so .. one of those should ork
[01:13] <jeep> Dark-Magician-Gi: so your question is what is root ?
[01:13] <Dark-Magician-Gi> By the way, I checked the installation guide but it doesn't mention the step(s) I'm having trouble with.
[01:13] <papashou> ugo+x ?
[01:13] <ClientAlive> fluzios: ok, then I had the .bashrc right the first time but got a permission denied for some reason
[01:14] <Dark-Magician-Gi> Well, I guess I'm not sure what I should choose for filesystem and root during the installation process at the partition manager screen.
[01:14] <Dark-Magician-Gi> On my Windows xp installation it says the filesystem is ntfs.
[01:14] <subcool> papashou, no- i ran chmod +x before u corrected urself.
[01:14] <Nogal> Hey there, I've got a quick question... How do I set up a network bridge-like setup for a setup like this: <client> LAN <laptop> WLAN <router>   ... which retains internet access on the laptop as well as the client computer?
[01:14] <jeep> Dark-Magician-Gi: you need at minimum two partititons on /dev/sdb one large one for / and another greater than amount of ram you have for swap
[01:15] <papashou> you need ugo+x (or at least a chmod 0755)
[01:15] <fluzios> ClientAlive: probably owner/group mismatch, +r for all users should help
[01:15] <jeep> Dark-Magician-Gi: /dev/sda will be your windows
[01:15] <subcool> papashou, i did ugo+x - nothing changed..
[01:15] <ash_> To enable root on Ubuntu sudo passwd root  :) put password and to login as root type = su (Put password)
[01:15] <papashou> then restart nfsd ?
[01:16] <ClientAlive> fluzios: right now the perms on /etc/.bash_aliases is "-rw-r-----"
[01:16] <subcool> papashou,
[01:16] <subcool> papashou, yea
[01:16] <lesce> hey guys , I have a very strange problem , I can't get gnome terminal to start with zsh ... anyone else encounter this ?
[01:16] <papashou> service iptables status ?
[01:16] <Dark-Magician-Gi> Yeah, that is my Windows. So, for /dev/sdb, I should create two partitions: The first for '/' and the second for 'swap'? I have 1gb ram so anything more than that will be okay for swap?
[01:16] <ClientAlive> oh! but the owner and group are root for some reason. Do they have to be owned by my user name?
[01:17] <jrib> lesce: nope
[01:17] <jrib> lesce: (how are you trying)
[01:17] <fluzios> ClientAlive: group should be some group that you are in
[01:17] <subcool> papashou, was that to me? - iptables unrecognized command
[01:17] <ash_> did somebody try Macbuntu ?
[01:17] <lesce> my defaul shell is zsh and I've added in gnome-terminal's preferences /bin/zsh as custom commands
[01:17] <fluzios> ClientAlive: or just -rw-r--r--
[01:17] <jrib> !ot | ash_
[01:17] <jeep> Dark-Magician-Gi: make your swap 1.5 gig or so  and how big is the rest of the space ?
[01:18] <Dark-Magician-Gi> 230-240 gig iirc.
[01:18] <jrib> lesce: what happens when you revert the gnome-terminal settings to default?
[01:18] <papashou> yes, sub cool;  `service iptables status`
[01:18] <lesce> jrib, same thing
[01:18] <ash_> i wanted to know did somebody try MACUBUNTU or blackubuntu?
[01:18] <subcool> papashou, unrecognized command
[01:18] <jeep> Dark-Magician-Gi: make a /home partition of 180 gig and / partition the rest
[01:19] <ClientAlive> fluzio: got it man. Thank you. (I did do a chown user:user /etc/.bash_aliases   though)
[01:19] <jeep> Dark-Magician-Gi: keeping /home seperate partition will allow you to keep files and such easily
[01:19] <lesce> jrib, the weired part is the process appears to be zsh if I ps aux it .. but the prompt is exactly as the bash prompt
[01:19] <lesce> it works if I run zsh manualy
[01:20] <Dark-Magician-Gi> Those are the only 3 roots I need to worry about then?
[01:20] <lesce> the prompt changes to my zsh prompt
[01:20] <jrib> lesce: what exactly happens when you start gnome-terminal?
[01:20] <jeep> Dark-Magician-Gi:  only root /
[01:21] <DeSantis> -
[01:21] <papashou_> subcool: you've got nfs-server installed right?
[01:21] <jeep> Dark-Magician-Gi: there are many ways to do partitions for different goals however the one i just gave you will be fine for a desktop user
[01:21] <Grivvel> Does anyone know why I might be missing an audio-in device that's actually there? Is there any way to see where it's being lost?
[01:21] <Dark-Magician-Gi> What should I choose for filesystem? For my xp installation it says the filesystem is ntfs but that isn't an option in the filesystem meny.
[01:21] <lesce> jrib, it shows the bash prompt
[01:21] <ClientAlive> yup! Works like a champ for both root and user   :)
[01:21] <subcool> papashou, yea
[01:21] <Dark-Magician-Gi> menu*
[01:22] <jeep> Dark-Magician-Gi: use ext4
[01:22] <Dark-Magician-Gi> Okay.
[01:22] <papashou_> how about; /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server status
[01:22] <Dark-Magician-Gi> Thanks. I'm going to go give it a try.
[01:22] <lesce> jrib, I'll make a pastebin
[01:22] <jeep> Dark-Magician-Gi: make sure you dont partition/format /dev/sda you wil lose windows
[01:22] <Dark-Magician-Gi> Yeah, I know. :p
[01:22] <jrib> lesce: how did you change your default shell?
[01:22] <papashou_> or `service nfs-kernel-server status`
[01:22] <subcool> papashou, nfsd running
[01:22] <jeep> Dark-Magician-Gi: when you get to the grub install make sure to put it on /dev/sda
[01:23] <Dark-Magician-Gi> What's grub install?
[01:23] <lesce> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1195801/
[01:23] <lesce> jrib, chsh
[01:23] <jeep> Dark-Magician-Gi: grub is the boot loader putting it on /dev/sda will allow you to pick windows or linux when you boot
[01:23] <lesce> jrex, echo $SHELL -> /bin/zsh
[01:23] <Dark-Magician-Gi> Okay.
[01:23] <lesce> jrib, echo $SHELL -> /bin/zsh
[01:23] <papashou> OK and   you're able to ping the NFS server from the client trying to mount it?
[01:24] <jrib> lesce: what you just pastebinned doesn't show an instance of bash running...
[01:24] <jeep> Dark-Magician-Gi: its one of the next future steps of the installer
[01:24] <subcool> papashou, pings are rejected, but- im ssh'ed in
[01:24] <lesce> jrib, that's weired about it
[01:24] <Dark-Magician-Gi> Okay, I'm going to go give it a try now.
[01:24] <subcool> papashou, good point- whats the port?
[01:24] <lesce> jrib, the prompt is exactly like the bash prompt
[01:24] <jrib> lesce: well... check if it's zsh with your bash prompt
[01:25] <lesce> jrib, you can see the promp changes when I run zsh
[01:25] <papashou> hfs ports i recall are 111 and 2049
[01:25] <placek> How safe is GTK orphan?
[01:25] <lesce> jrib, so there shouldn't be any problem with loading the oh_my_zsh theme
[01:25] <subcool> papashou, let me see if opening them up helps
[01:25] <jrib> lesce: I don't care about the theme at the moment.  I care about whether you are running zsh or not
[01:26] <subcool> papashou, that may have worked :)
[01:26] <papashou> ya?  ports issue?
[01:26] <subcool> i just ran the mount command, and it went right back to prompt
[01:26] <subcool> running df -h now on clent
[01:26] <papashou> ok so do a 'df -h'
[01:27] <papashou> should show remote client, etc
[01:27] <subcool> YEP!!!
[01:27] <subcool> u rock!!!
[01:27] <skroot> im running a pptp server on my ubuntu box. how do i login from windows, what username format?
[01:27] <subcool> totally forgot about my firewall
[01:27] <lesce> jrib, yes it's running
[01:27] <lesce> lesce@lesce-desktop:~% ps aux | grep zsh
[01:27] <papashou> always the last thing we check- it gets me everytime
[01:27] <lesce> lesce     3979  0.0  0.1  47492  5208 pts/1    Ss   04:20   0:00 zsh
[01:27] <subcool> running nfs should be a lot fast than ftp and anything else right? but- it will only be visable via linux?
[01:27] <lesce> jrib, then why isn't it loading my zshrc file
[01:28] <jrib> lesce: are you running it as a login shell?
[01:28] <GTRsdk> What's the name of the app that makes it easy to connect to network printers?
[01:28] <lesce> jrib, yes
[01:28] <bkc_> !"enter"
[01:28] <subcool> ugh- i have access to the drive, but nothign inside of it.. lol
[01:28] <papashou> it'll be visible to any client able to mount NFS
[01:29] <papashou> yeah that's probably permission at that point
[01:29] <subcool> but did that cog something fix that?
[01:29] <papashou> need +x on every directory leading up to it
[01:29] <jrib> lesce: why?  .zshrc won't get executed for login shells unless you call it from ~/.zprofile (or similar)
[01:29] <subcool> what do u mean leading up to it?
[01:30] <papashou> means if /directoryA/directoryB/directoryC is the one you want to share
[01:30] <papashou> and directoryC has ugo+x but directoryB and directoryA does not, it will not work
[01:30] <subcool> thats annoying- these folders are huge-
[01:30] <papashou> directoryA/B/C all need to have the "+x" (execute) permission set for O (or the user/group in question)
[01:30] <subcool> they are my archives
[01:30] <GTRsdk> iirc, you had to go to something like "Printing" to get to that program... anyone know the name of it?
[01:31] <jrib> !who | subcool, papashou (and please go easy on your enter key)
[01:32] <lesce> jrib, it's the same thing even if I uncheck running as a login shell
[01:32] <joejack> my wireless is not locking in, but it was and all of a sudden it can't
[01:32] <papashou> jrib: is it that much of an issue?
[01:32] <jrib> papashou: in a channel with so many users, it's very helpful, yes
[01:32] <subcool> papashou,  sudo chmod ugo+x /media/StorageX2/ doesnt do anything.
[01:32] <papashou> jrib: if so, I will just take it to private chat- then no one can benefit.
[01:34] <jrib> lesce: then I'd suggest you clear your zsh-related ~/.z* files and start with something simple to troubleshoot
[01:34] <Eddie11> Anyone know how to enable sound card? I have a audigy sound card with Ubuntu 10.04 OS arecord -l sees card as well as aplay -l?
[01:34] <ClientAlive> anyone here familiar wtih using unison? I'm trying to figure out how to make it sync just a file alone (not a whole directory). When I go to create a profile in it for that (using the gui) it doesn't look like I can do that.
[01:34] <jrib> ClientAlive: I just create the profiles by hand (have you read the documentation?)
[01:34] <ClientAlive> can if follow symlinks if I make a directory and just link to to those file in that directory?
[01:34] <joejack> anyone want to help me troubleshoot my wireless/
[01:34] <subcool> papashou, since i need EVERYTHIGN in /media accessable, should i just do chmod +x *.*
[01:35] <papashou> a  "chmod +x" only makes owner executable
[01:35] <ClientAlive> jrib: not entirely. (I really struggle to do so much reading - I'm a hands on guy)  :(
[01:35] <papashou> NFSD may need Other (world) executable
[01:35] <jrib> ClientAlive: http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/download/releases/stable/unison-manual.html#pathspec I guess is what you want to read
[01:35] <papashou> subcool: see your chat
[01:35] <Eddie11> Anyone know how to enable sound card? I have a audigy sound card with Ubuntu 10.04 OS arecord -l sees card as well as aplay -l?
[01:36] <lesce> jrib, thanks a lot :) , found the problem it seams it wouldn't load my custom theme , changed the theme and it works fine . thanks again for your time
[01:36] <jrib> lesce: no problem
[01:36] <bkc_> Eddie11: hw:device=1
[01:36] <ClientAlive> like, for instance, I'd like to create a profile that syncs my aliases but that involves 3 files total on the machine. I wish I could have one profile that syncs those 3 files all in one profile.
[01:36] <ash_> Had spmebpdy ever try to install security tool  on ubuntu? such as backtrack tool ?
[01:36] <Eddie11> bkc_, ?
[01:37] <jrib> ash_: I'm sure many have
[01:37] <jrib> ClientAlive: you can
[01:37] <bkc_> Eddie11: you need to add a few lines to .asoundrc... w8 a sec and I'll upload mine...
[01:38] <ClientAlive> jfib: oh yeah, I have that page open - just hard for me to understand anything by the time I read all of it (this is a problem for me and is why come asking people around for help to just do it).
[01:38] <jrib> ClientAlive: You can just have a bunch of "path = /some/path" lines
[01:38] <bkc_> Eddie11: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture#Set_the_default_sound_card <-- It's for arch, but the same applies for linux
[01:38] <ash_> i give a try :) soon
[01:38] <ash_> and give feedback
[01:38] <ash_> :P
[01:38] <bkc_> Eddie11: any linux-dist using alsa*
[01:39] <ClientAlive> jrib: sounds like I need to look at how to create these profiles by hand then.
[01:39] <Eddie11> bkc_, Yeah I though it might be alsa pulse problem but i'll check that
[01:40] <jrib> ClientAlive: start with one of the "sample profiles" in the documentation, understand each line, then add and subtract to it
[01:40] <bkc_> ooh... you have pulse installed? then you should use pulseaudios setup...
[01:40] <ClientAlive> that sounds like a good approach for me. thx
[01:41] <bkc_> Eddie11: nvm that last comment, pulse uses alsa as backend..
[01:41] <TeamRocket1233c> Back!
[01:41] <bhast2> blah anyone know a good site that does reviews on programs for linux
[01:41] <bkc_> o/
[01:42] <bkc_> bhast2: google?
[01:42] <bhast2> haha
[01:42] <bhast2> did that
[01:42] <bkc_> then you did it wrong :)
[01:42] <bkc_> there is no "one site to rule them all"... some sites review some programs, other review other programs...
[01:42] <bkc_> s/rule/review/
[01:43] <TeamRocket1233c> bhast2: Dediomedo?
[01:43] <bhast2> haha
[01:43] <bhast2> I will check that out
[01:44] <bhast2> for this http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/
[01:44] <TeamRocket1233c> bhast2: I mean Dedoimedo reviews everything computer-related.
[01:44] <TeamRocket1233c> bhast2: Linux, Windows, BSD, don't matter.
[01:44] <bhast2> yeah I will check that out looks nice
[01:44] <bhast2> thanks
[01:46] <TeamRocket1233c> http://www.dedoimedo.com/ if you're interested.
[01:47] <Iron> hello, did i get any replies to my problem, with the computer that freezes on shutdown?
[01:48] <NicolasCage> Hi, my screen flickers for a second and everything becomes slow.
[01:48] <Eddie11> Anyone know how to enable sound card? I have a audigy sound card with Ubuntu 10.04 OS arecord -l sees card as well as aplay -l?
[01:49] <Bizman> hi everyone
[01:50] <Bizman> hi funkyb
[01:50] <funkyb> is it possible to do a real iinstall ubuntu to a usb stick (v3, 32GB), i.e. not a LIVE USB + persistance?  Also, does doing so risk screwing up the bootloader of the machine you use to do this?
[01:50] <funkyb> hi Bizman
[01:50] <Bizman> this is my first time
[01:50] <Bizman> using this
[01:51] <xangua> funkyb: just select to install in the usb stick
[01:51] <Eddie11> Anyone know how to enable sound card? I have a audigy sound card with Ubuntu 10.04 OS arecord -l sees card as well as aplay -l?
[01:52] <wilee-nilee> funkyb, Yes it is possible and safe if you use the something else option and make sure the grub bootloader is pointed at the usb's mbr.
[01:52] <funkyb> Will doing so screw up the boot loader of the desktop (Win 7 machine) that i use for this process?  The whole purpose is to have a 'portable' usb ubuntu, with large persistance, that is not a ramdisc.
[01:52] <Iron> How do I stop ubuntu from freezing when i shut down?
[01:52] <funkyb> ok, wilee-nilee, I will (nervously) give it a shot
[01:52] <wilee-nilee> funkyb, persistance is a termed used with a ISO Load as well.
[01:52] <NicolasCage> is it a good idea to use an external hard drive for a linux long-term linux (kubuntu) installation?
[01:53] <jeep> funkyb: pay attetntion which drive is what
[01:53] <jeep> NicolasCage: for storage or the whole os ?
[01:53] <funkyb> jeep, agreed, although i'm not sure I'll be 100% clear on what I'm looking for, and where to find it.  I vaguely recall an "advanced" button in the partitioner that allows grub options.
[01:53] <funkyb> been a few...
[01:53] <NicolasCage> I have no internal hdd now, its an old IDE connection and cant buy any in the shops. jeep: for my main OS.
[01:54] <wilee-nilee> NicolasCage, It will run slower the transfer of the data unless it is a usb3 will be slower then an internal, even a usb3 I believe is slightly slower.
[01:55] <NicolasCage> Hmm, well I know what you mean wilee-nilee, I am running this installation off a USB disk now, but I want  a more permanent solution. It s quite slow as it is alright. usb 2.0
[01:55] <Iron> NicolasCage, in my opinion. It is NOT a bad idea. Just keep in mind that it will technically be a bit slower than sata 2 or 3 internal decent hdd.
[01:55] <jeep> NicolasCage: it will work .. just be slow
[01:55] <wilee-nilee> funkyb, The advanced option is called something else at the where to put ubuntu gui, this is a manul install, ask questions if needed once you get there.
[01:55] <Iron> try it out, if it's not too slow for you, then all is good.
[01:56] <Iron> why does my computer freeze on the shutting down screen
[01:56] <NicolasCage> also, these external drives in the shop. even if it says windows only, still could I not just use it for a linux install?
[01:57] <Iron> Yes, you will reformat and repartition the drives to what linux likes (ext 4, root, home etc whatever you need).
[01:57] <Iron> I mean, Repartition and reformat.
[01:58] <NicolasCage> okay Iron thanks. I just dont want to waste 150 euro on this, and find out it's not  along term solution. this 16gb usb is getting old. 67% used now, rofl.
[01:58] <Iron> It might be a good idea to do the following: Have a partition formatted to NTFS, that way, you can copy data to the driver using windows and still access it with linux. Keep in mind the NTFS partition will only be usd to store stuff between windows and linux, all other linux data and user stuff should be on ext4 or ext3 partitions.
[01:58] <Iron> You could consider getting a 64GB usb instead.
[01:59] <Iron> or an external ssd.
[01:59] <NicolasCage> But a magnetic disk drive is better isn't it, for long term?
[01:59] <NicolasCage> I've heard these USB drives start to go into RAW mode, reformatting themselves.
[01:59] <wilee-nilee> solid state and disc drives now have the same lifetimes
[02:00] <Iron> If you are talking about drives dying, SSDs that have an os that supports TRIM, will last long enough until your next upgrade.
[02:00] <NicolasCage> hmm.
[02:00] <Iron> i.e. 10 years is about average
[02:00] <linus> all drives fail eventaully it is guaranteed
[02:00] <NicolasCage> 10 years for a usb stick @ iron?
[02:00] <Iron> well, the 1000 rewrites is only complete rewrites of that section, they tend to cheat a little.
[02:00] <GraemeLion> Most USB sticks will likely last less
[02:00] <Iron> Just don't do a full format on an SSD, or you will literally cook it.
[02:01] <Iron> either way, you should get at least 2 years (if less, warranty) on a good quality USB.
[02:01] <NicolasCage> lol. what? I have formatted it many times.
[02:01] <Iron> quick format or full format?
[02:01] <NicolasCage> quick I think
[02:01] <Iron> yeah quick is fine
[02:01] <NicolasCage> I'm not sure.
[02:01] <Iron> it's the default
[02:01] <bazhang> Iron, NicolasCage take the hardware talk to ##hardware or #ubuntu-offtopic please
[02:02] <Iron> alright, I'll talk in offtopic
[02:03] <Iron> anyway, simply put: Provided you get a good enough quality, it will last long enough. That's the last I'll say
[02:03] <failingkid> anyone code in perl
[02:04] <blackshirt> not yet
[02:04] <bazhang> failingkid, try the perl channel
[02:04] <failingkid> yeah but everyone seems to be idle there atm
[02:04] <failingkid> ofc i can wait
[02:16] <LibertyTrader> Is it easy to install 3.4 kernel on ubuntu 12.04?
[02:16] <Treaver> Hello, quick question : On Ubuntu One Music can I stream music that I want to stream, like any song? Can I save those songs in cache to listen later?
[02:16] <LibertyTrader> I have ivy bridge graphics so the kernel is important
[02:16] <blackshirt> yes...
[02:17] <tucemiux> how do I tell how much memory I have using the command line?
[02:18] <blackshirt> tucemiux, free -m
[02:18] <bazhang> Treaver, asked in #ubuntuone yet?
[02:19] <rsvp> why on earth is awk symlinked to 1996 mawk ??? This is horrible.
[02:19] <tucemiux> blackshirt, Mem:          3961 , that's 4 gigs?!? UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[02:20] <jrib> rsvp: sudo update-alternatives --config awk
[02:20] <blackshirt> tucemiux, maybe better you can post full output
[02:20] <i7c> tucemiux: mem in the total column tells your phyiscal ram
[02:21] <tucemiux> i7c, i never checked but i always though my 8 gigs of ram would show up in ubuntu o.O
[02:22] <rsvp> jrib, one should install the "gawk" package first ! For the sake, of just a mere 200 KB of additional code .
[02:22] <i7c> tucemiux: are you on 64bit ubuntu?
[02:22] <tucemiux> i7c,  UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[02:23] <blackshirt> that was 64 bit linux
[02:23] <wujie> deepin linux .made in china ,http://imagebin.org/227845
[02:23] <i7c> tucemiux: mhm weird. i have 6GB and works perfectly
[02:24] <tucemiux> i7c, im going to have to shut down and see what the BIOS sees, good night!
[02:24] <blackshirt> good morning
[02:24] <i7c> tucemiux: night, good luck
[02:25] <rsvp> mawk is terrible -- if one discovers that extended regex is not supported -- it simply fails.
[02:27] <anubis_> what would you guys recommend for a light weight linux distro?  i've tried crunchband and puppy linux but those are too lightweight (if that makes any sense) lol
[02:27] <anubis_> crunchbang*
[02:27] <blackshirt> anubis, debian
[02:28] <IdleOne> anubis_: Please don't take polls in this channel. Try Lubuntu
[02:28] <somsip> anubis_: minimal ubuntu, then add what you need
[02:28] <utops> anubis,Slackware ;)
[02:28] <anubis_> oh sorry...didnt know that was a poll.  but ok, thanksf for the input
[02:28] <anubis_> ill give them a shot!
[02:30] <usuario> r
[02:30] <rking> Hi guys. I used to use Debian a good bit, but now I'm trying to help a buddy upgrade his Ubuntu install on a chroot in Android.  We found http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/precise/main/binary-armhf/ , and his /etc/apt/sources.list currently says: deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ karmic main universe — what should we change it to?
[02:31] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | rking
[02:32] <Nateman254> is someone on?
[02:32] <jeep> Nateman254: yes
[02:33] <Nateman254> ok, so i'm trying to get the ubuntu linux setup on my usb, but i need help
[02:33] <jeep> Nateman254: sorry you used your one question for the day already
[02:33] <bazhang> !behelpful | jeep
[02:33] <kbrosnan> Nateman254: set up a bootable usb drive to install ubuntu?
[02:33] <Anusien> When I fullscreen mplayer or vlc, the display gets jerky (although the audio plays fine), but it's fine windowed. This seems to be a problem on all -vo modes for a variety of different video types. I'm using the radeon open source drivers. CPU and RAM are both fine.
[02:34] <Nateman254> ok, not funny... I really need help!
[02:34] <jeep> Nateman254: to install to usb or use a usb stick to do install to computer ?
[02:34] <jeep> bazhang: im always helpful!
[02:35] <bazhang> jeep, this is NOT the jokes channel.
[02:35] <Nateman254> no, download to usb stick so i can transfer to another computer
[02:35] <Guest55458> How can I use an external monitor connected via display port on my laptop. The "Displays" application is not detecting it.
[02:36] <rking> bazhang: Hrm. This page seems to get up to the point of 9.10, but then stops there, not describing to get from there to 12.04
[02:36] <jeep> Nateman254: like you want the usb stick to run a install ? or your trying to mirror an install on multiple computers
[02:37] <Nateman254> ??? i'm trying to download the install to my usb so that i may install it to another computer... walking the usb over to it
[02:37] <jeep> Nateman254: i suggest using a program called unetbootin
[02:38] <Nateman254> ???
[02:38] <IdleOne> !usb | Nateman254
[02:38] <IdleOne> Nateman254: you want to follow that first link in the info ubottu just gave
[02:38] <forbidden404> Hey, there, I installed Ubuntu 12.10 today but I can't open it with normal graphics, I think it's a problem with Xorg (actually I know there is a problem with Xorg), but I can't solve it, can you guys help me? This is my logs > http://paste.ubuntu.com/1195838/
[02:39] <Nateman254> kk ty will do
[02:40] <forbidden404> I'm on Ubuntu 12.10 right now using nomodeset, but that's all, I can't enter in any other way
[02:44] <adie> would I have any issue moving my ubuntu install between different computers?
[02:44] <adie> I am wondering if I could boot up my disk in a virtual machine without messing up configuration stuff
[02:47] <weiyang> can i use dmsetup to setup the multipath device?
[02:47] <cardboard> Hello #ubuntu Any one know how I would consolidate lines in my IPtables script? right now it looks like this http://pastebin.com/uUsJdgFW    I figure that quite a few lines are not needed and that I could take out the entire center chunk if I just knew how... Any ideas?
[02:50] <weiyang> cardboard, what's the problem?
[02:50] <weiyang> cardboard, iptables -I wanout -s <IP_ADDRESS> -j ACCEPT this means what?
[02:50] <cardboard> ohh
[02:51] <cardboard> yeh it tells iptables not to count that ip in the filter
[02:51] <cardboard> it says dont enforce rules on this ip
[02:51] <cardboard> I was wondering if some how I could say something like <IP_ADDRESS>. - 192.168.1.x
[02:52] <cardboard> So I would be doing it in one line of commands rather then 1 line for each command
[02:52] <randomDude> like irc?
[02:54] <weiyang> cardboard, -I wanout, I didn't see this chain
[02:55] <forbidden404> Is there any ATI driver for Quantal 3.5?
[02:56] <bazhang> forbidden404, #ubuntu+1 for 12.10 support and discussion
[02:58] <nateman254> ok, so i need some more help...
[02:58] <nateman254> i have the iso, but what now?
[02:59] <nateman254> hello?
[02:59] <drupin> i installed have installed ubuntustudio on pendrive with help of pendrivelinux.com installer
[02:59] <drupin> but i cannot install apps in it
[02:59] <MonkeyDust> nateman254  put the iso on a cd or stick, boot from that cd or stick
[03:00] <forbidden404> bazhang, thank you, I didn't know it
[03:01] <nateman254> how??? it's too big. it's 700k kb
[03:02] <MonkeyDust> nateman254  http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[03:03] <MonkeyDust> read and learn
[03:07] <bawf> Is system monitor the only way to show the process list. Is there anyway to get a more readable list that shows only the stuff u would see in Alt +Tab?
[03:07] <MonkeyDust> bawf  try ps -e
[03:07] <bawf> no
[03:08] <bawf> I'm think about adding a tab to gnome-system-monitor. One that would show "active" processes in a readable manner (Title names)
[03:09] <bawf> I don't wanna waste my time if it's done somewhere
[03:09] <MonkeyDust> bawf  you can submit the idea in !brainstorm
[03:10] <bawf> I found that the idea was submitted a far back as 2008, but a mod closed the thread. There's no info there
[03:10] <bawf> Didn't there use to be a "Windows" tab?
[03:11] <Exodeus> in what?
[03:11] <bawf> I think system monitor
[03:12] <Exodeus> not that i can recall... there is a process tab tho
[03:13] <bawf> with messy cryptic processes that the user shouldnt be greeted with
[03:15] <Exodeus> very true.... i wouldnt go messing around with it if you dont somewhat know whats up
[03:17] <bawf> Does anyone remember a "windows" dialog? It may have been when trying to logout with apps running
[03:23] <bawf> I forgot, is there a GUI app hardware profiler that gives info like lspci does?
[03:27] <crimsonmane> bawf: "system profiler"
[03:28] <bawf> Why isn't that installed by default?
[03:31] <neeta> #haskell
[03:31] <jerlyn> nice days
[03:31] <crimsonmane> bawf: it is, on other distros like Linux Mint XFCE
[03:31] <bawf> So much for "Linux for Human beings"
[03:32] <ClientAlive> jrib: you still here?
[03:35] <jerlyn> c u guys
[03:35] <ClientAlive> Anyone here familiar with unison? I'm reading the manual, testing stuff and looking into it's files but sonething doesn't make sense.
[03:36] <student> haha
[03:36] <ClientAlive> I thought that it stored it's profiles in the file ~/.unison/default.prf  I created a test profile, verified that it works, then did a less ~/.unison/defult.prf and that file is still empty. What gives?
[03:38] <student> what
[03:39] <student> hello
[03:39] <ClientAlive> ahh. I see it now...   :)
[03:45] <leonardo_> dsgfg
[03:46] <leonardo_> hola!
[03:46] <wan26> khklh
[03:46] <leonardo_> ??
[03:47] <leonardo_> Hola
[03:47] <leonardo_> estoy pro. ubuntu
[03:47] <TJ-> !es | leonardo_
[03:48] <daemongpl> lol
[03:51] <daemongpl> What is a good source to learn the run levels? I want to know what happens when I press the power button.. Bios > Grub > runlevels to xwindows... Anyone know a good source that lays this out for me or is this something that takes years of user experience to learn?
[03:52] <phix>  The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:52] <theguy> what kind of chat room is this
[03:53] <phix> theguy: The one where users ask questions, then they wait, and they get an answer :)
[03:53] <theguy> so this is a chat room about linux
[03:53] <TJ-> daemongpl: The runlevels concept comes from Unix. You can find it's history by searching for the SYS V init (the /etc/rcX.d/ directories implement it)
[03:54] <phix> so any ideas ---^
[03:54] <bawf> daemongpl: There are some good articles that cover the kernel boot process, if thats what u r looking for, google "linux kernel boot"
[03:54] <smw> theguy, about ubuntu specifically
[03:54] <phix> theguy: about ubuntu linux in particular
[03:54] <xangua> !gpgerr | phix the full error message would be more useful
[03:54] <theguy> i see well there is a question ive been wondering for some time now
[03:55] <xangua> but if it's only the ubuntu repository just use the keys the bot mentions phix
[03:55] <theguy> do real woman actually log on to free online chats that you would find from letts say google and the likes?
[03:55] <xangua> !ot | theguy
[03:55] <phix> W: GPG error: http://au.archive.ubuntu.com precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:55] <phix> W: GPG error: http://archive.canonical.com precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:55] <TJ-> daemongpl: But it's pretty simple: BIOS > HDD1(sector 0) > bootloader > kernel+initial-ramdisk > kernel > /init (process). What 'init' does depends on the distribution. On Ubuntu that's the "upstart" package. On Fedora/Red Hat it's "systemd"
[03:56] <cowsquad> what desktop manager are you guys using with ubuntu 12.04?
[03:56] <theguy> ok hows come when i disable my wifi switch on my keyboard after running rfkill no sucess
[03:56] <phix> xangua: Is thatuuseful now?
[03:56] <xangua> phix: did you read what the bot said¿
[03:56] <xangua> cowsquad: Ubuntu uses gnome with unity shell as default
[03:57] <TJ-> daemongpl: Most modern distros now are moving away from the SYSV init because they are implementing parallel init systems to improve boot times and take advantage of modern multi-core systems
[03:57] <cowsquad> xangua, yeah. Are you using any other one?
[03:57] <theguy> anyone know why rfkill wont work?
[03:58] <xangua> cowsquad: do you have a support questions¿ polls are offtopic for #ubuntu
[03:58] <cowsquad> ah okay. thank you man
[03:59] <cowsquad> xangua How can I upgrade to quantun quetzal?
[03:59] <xangua> !12.10 | cowsquad
[03:59] <TJ-> Someone remind me how to type accented characters! Alt-Gr+something > accent > key ?
[04:00] <theguy> does anyone know about the rfkill command
[04:01] <aeon-ltd> theguy: man does
[04:01] <theguy> i hope its not the MAN
[04:01] <theguy> lol get it
[04:06] <danny> whats the default chat app for the latest ubuntu?
[04:07] <smw> danny, empathy
[04:07] <danny> cool -thanks
[04:11] <de> how can I find out my computers ip address
[04:11] <de> ?
[04:12] <ClientAlive> using scp is confusin. The material I'm finding online is not clear what's meant by "computer you're on" (or similar) and I don't get it.
[04:12] <ClientAlive> help?
[04:12] <rauf> http://www.whatismyip.com/
[04:13] <MonkeyDust> ClientAlive  scp is cp over ssh, so from your loal pc to a remote pc
[04:14] <MonkeyDust> local*
[04:14] <Dark-Magician-Gi> How do I save changes to /etc/default/grub?
[04:14] <neelpulse> Here's my problem. I once set proxy in my chromium browser and applied it system wide. Since then I could not get it removed. Whenever I wanted to install something I would always do: sudo -s, export "http_proxy=", export "https_proxy=", apt-get update and then install it. But then next time I would have to do it all over again. How can I achieve permanent effect
[04:15] <PoundXI> sudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[04:15] <MonkeyDust> or sudo -e
[04:15] <ClientAlive> well I'm "on" a particular pysical machine (that's the one with the file I want to copy to the "other" machine. In a sense I'm also "on" that machine too (via ssh). What do I have to type to copy the file from this machine to that one?
[04:16] <Dark-Magician-Gi> I don't understand. I'm in the '/etc/default/grub' file now. It doesn't list save as an option. It does list exit though.
[04:16] <MonkeyDust> ClientAlive  scp file user@remote ip-address
[04:16] <ClientAlive> I've tried several variations and get that the file doesn't exist "cannot stat..." but it does and it's spelled right too.
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> howto fix a corrupt square mouse pointer every cold boot on precise 12.04.1 clean installed (nomodeset fixes it but then compiz is unworkable)
[04:17] <MonkeyDust> ClientAlive  scp file user@remote ip-address:/home/user
[04:17] <ClientAlive> ohh. Well that must be an old tute or something. They have a colon in there.
[04:17] <bawf> Dark-Magician-Gi: U need to edit it with sudo to save
[04:17] <Dark-Magician-Gi> I've already edited it. I changed 'GRUB_DEFAULT=0' to 'GRUB_DEFAULT=4'
[04:18] <nerdbromancer> Dark-Magician-Gi: you also need to update-grub as root
[04:18] <Dark-Magician-Gi> Yeah, that I read. I'm not sure how to save the change first though.
[04:18] <nerdbromancer> like after you have done the changes and saved them
[04:18] <nerdbromancer> Dark-Magician-Gi: it should let you if you are root
[04:19] <Dark-Magician-Gi> Hm, I'll take another look at it.
[04:19] <bawf> He prob edited from nautilus
[04:19] <daemongpl> maybe sudo nano /etc/default/grub if you cant figure gedit out....
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> !info xserver-xorg-driver-ati > lotuspsychje
[04:19] <bawf> u can do gedit like that. Or sudo nautilu should work
[04:19] <blackshirt> for gui based, use gksudo /etc/default/grub
[04:20] <blackshirt> Don't using sudo
[04:20] <blackshirt> Bawf, don't suggest them
[04:20] <bawf> y?
[04:21] <ClientAlive> thanks MonkeyDust. That worked (was needing to go the other direction albeit, but was easy enough to reverse the order and get it).    :)
[04:21] <TJ-> That'd be "gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub"
[04:21] <MonkeyDust> bawf  don't suggest that to someone who doesnt know what he's doing
[04:21] <neelpulse> what is the default value of http_proxy and https_proxy in etc/environment file?
[04:21] <blackshirt> Use gksudo/gksu instead for gui based access
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> howto fix this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/556782
[04:22] <Dark-Magician-Gi> I used 'suno nano /etc/default/grub' to access it.
[04:22] <bawf> what's the downside of using sudo for GUI? Security risk?
[04:22] <TJ-> Dark-Magician-Gi: That's good from a terminal.
[04:22] <Dark-Magician-Gi> I clicked exit then save. Now it says Uncomment to disable graphical terminal/file name to write
[04:23] <Dark-Magician-Gi> I have no idea what to do here.
[04:23] <nerdbromancer> Dark-Magician-Gi: and suDO not suNo if thats what you were typing
[04:23] <bawf> ctrl s
[04:23] <crimsonmane> bawf: yes
[04:23] <Dark-Magician-Gi> Yeah, sudo. That was a typo. Sorry.
[04:23] <Dark-Magician-Gi> Options are: gethelp, cancel, dos format, mac format, append, prepend, backup file
[04:23] <blackshirt> bawf, sudo and gksudo setup different environment for gui access...
[04:24] <nerdbromancer> Dark-Magician-Gi: its all good, thats super strange though
[04:24] <Dark-Magician-Gi> That is after I clicked exit>save
[04:24] <nerdbromancer> Dark-Magician-Gi: nm, with nano you just exit and save
[04:24] <blackshirt> For some time, you maybe gets wrong permission on files, when setup it with sudo
[04:25] <nerdbromancer> Dark-Magician-Gi: you go to quit "and then its like  'you want to save' and you say 'yes, save it to grub'"
[04:25] <TJ-> Dark-Magician-Gi: In nano, after you've made a change you press Ctrl+X to exit, and confirm the file-name to save
[04:25] <Dark-Magician-Gi> nerdbromancer: I didn't get that.
[04:25] <Dark-Magician-Gi> How do I confirm the file name. I guess it's 'append'?
[04:25] <Dark-Magician-Gi> It's the only command I can think of it being.
[04:26] <TJ-> Dark-Magician-Gi: It asks you "Save modified buffer..."   you press Y for Yes
[04:26] <nerdbromancer> Dark-Magician-Gi: what tj said
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> howto update or fix xserver-xorg-driver-ati?
[04:26] <TJ-> Dark-Magician-Gi:  then it offers you the filename and you press Return to accept the current filename
[04:27] <blackshirt> lotuspsychje, just install the newer version
[04:28] <Dark-Magician-Gi> I got it.
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> blackshirt:from where
[04:28] <blackshirt> lotuspsychje, what release are you using now?
[04:28] <Dark-Magician-Gi> It saved so now i have to run that one command. Do I type 'sudo nano update-grub' in terminal?
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> blackshirt: precise 64bit 12.04.1
[04:29] <nerdbromancer> Dark-Magician: no nano
[04:29] <daemongpl> blackshirt: how often does that file permission problem happen? sudo elevates the command and UID\GID stay the same when editing right or does it edit\create the file with different permissions when using sudo???\
[04:29] <bawf> no
[04:29] <nerdbromancer> just "sudo update-grub"
[04:29] <Dark-Magician-Gi> Okay.
[04:29] <blackshirt> that the newest release i think.. But you can wait for the next release
[04:29] <bawf> nano is a terminal text editing program
[04:29] <rainchick> Hey everyone, I'm having an issue with Ubuntu 12.10 and Banshee. Is there a better channel for me to ask in?
[04:30] <j2bv16> rainchick: what problem?
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> blackshirt:yes i clean installed it but still the bug remains
[04:30] <rainchick> j2bv16, well, Banshee crashes so often it's unusable and doesn't provide any indication as to why, it just dies. Usually when I make changes to my library or do something that involves writing to the drive.
[04:31] <blackshirt> daemongpl, gksudo works on gui (contain display environment) and setup them properly...
[04:31] <rainchick> Rhytymbox works fine.
[04:31] <nerdbromancer> lotupsycheje: was it a problem on older releases?
[04:31] <j2bv16> rainchick: Ubuntu 12.10 is having a big problem with QT
[04:32] <TJ-> rainchick: Quantal support is in #ubuntu+1
[04:32] <blackshirt> Daemongpl, and sudo works for text command line mode and not sometime not correctly setup related for gui environment
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> nerdbromander:im trying to fix a square mouse pointer every cold boot like this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/556782
[04:32] <rainchick> j2bv16, I see... is there any way I can make my experience more useful for the developers so I can help fix?  And I'll head to #ubuntu+1 too. :)
[04:32] <Dark-Magician-Gi> Alright. It worked. Thanks.
[04:33] <j2bv16> rainchick: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=qt&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch=&field.has_no_package=&orderby=-heat&start=0
[04:33] <j2bv16> We have to wait for a update
[04:33] <j2bv16> (sorry for the long link)
[04:33] <blackshirt> for e.g was .ICEAuthority fikes on your home maybe become owned by root
[04:33] <rainchick> j2bv16, ok, thanks. :) I'll be patient then. :)
[04:34] <Dark-Magician-Gi> I do have another question. I have a dell resource cd which I use to install graphics, audio, etc. drivers  when I reinstall Windows. Do I use the dell resource cd for Ubuntu too?
[04:34] <blackshirt> i don't think so..that was made for windows
[04:34] <daemongpl> blackshirt: ahh, so gksudo will run the gui and elevate where needed and sudo will run entire application elevated?
[04:34] <Dark-Magician-Gi> Alrght, that's what I thought but I wanted to make sure.
[04:35] <blackshirt> you shouldd't need them
[04:37] <blackshirt> daemon, that was tool used for same purposes, get root access, but have different characteristic internally..you can use both of them, but accessing root for gui based using sudo, thats contains some probabilistic trouble
[04:37] <nerdbromancer> uggh im having this (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-volumed/+bug/990562) problem with xfce but i really don;t wanna go to gnome/unity
[04:39] <nerdbromancer> like i really just want gnome2/compiz but its not 2008 any more :(
[04:41] <phix> xangua: yeah, but now what?
[04:42] <xangua> phix: did you follow the instructions¿
[04:43] <phix> xangua: same error message
[04:43] <phix> xangua: sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 40976EAF437D05B5
[04:43] <crimsonmane> nerdbromancer: you would like Linux Mint MATE and install compiz.
[04:44] <phix> gpg: requesting key 437D05B5 from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com
[04:44] <phix> gpg: key 437D05B5: "Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>not changed
[04:44] <phix> sudo apt-get update still returns the key warning message
[04:44] <phix> xangua: now what?
[04:44] <ClientAlive> I have a permission issue trying to use scp. The file I'm trying to copy requires root privs. Is there a way to run the command for it to work?
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> !mint | crimsonmane
[04:44] <ClientAlive> file is on the physical computer I'm typing on and trying to copy to another computer
[04:45] <clipclick> quick opinion poll: What do you like best as my email<EMAIL_ADDRESS>||<EMAIL_ADDRESS>||<EMAIL_ADDRESS>||<EMAIL_ADDRESS> - Thanks!
[04:45] <crimsonmane> i'm aware it's not a supported derivative. but he said he'd like gnome2 with compiz, and if ubuntu doesn't offer a solution for that, then i've given the best response.
[04:45] <nerdbromancer> crimsonmane: mate has been super buggy for me, i have used it in ubuntu and mate
[04:45] <crimsonmane> clipclick: why not<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:46] <xangua> phix: (it's 437D05B5 for the standard ones) as the bot says
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> crimsonmane:the best response is to solve ubuntu problems, not suggesting another Os here
[04:46] <clipclick> dale.com is registered
[04:46] <crimsonmane> dale.net
[04:46] <phix> xangua: ok so the repo I am using is being stupid?
[04:46] <crimsonmane> dale.us
[04:47] <clipclick> i'd prefer the .com :)
[04:47] <crimsonmane> lotuspsychje: for the record, you're supposed to make the best decision for the customer/shareholders, not yourself. that's how i think, that's how i approach problems, and that's how i solve them with 100% satisfaction guaranteed.
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> clipclick:stop that, this is an ubuntu support channel
[04:47] <ClientAlive> still - and I've tried a couple variations
[04:48] <ClientAlive> is this going to also be a problem trying to use unison with those files?
[04:48] <nerdbromancer> lotuspsychje: I have used it with ubuntu through the ppa. In fact I don't really like mint because of its lack of a debian installer
[04:48] <phix> crimsonmane: lotuspsychje has a point, this is a ubuntu support channel, if you want something more general goto general computer support channel
[04:49] <phix> I actually don't know any ones off the top of my head, but if you do find a good one let me know, I would be interested in offering some support
[04:49] <crimsonmane> mint has a debian installer, nerdbromancer
[04:52] <jagginess> !mint
[04:53] <crimsonmane> nobody is looking for help with mint
[04:53] <jagginess> yada i came in late
[04:53] <crimsonmane> i think you're defending your turf against an imaginary enemy
[04:54] <ClientAlive> anyone on using ssh/ scp command?
[04:54] <nerdbromancer> crimsonmane: from what i've seen it has a debian edition with debian repos not the installer. also what i am really just upset that my sound fn keys dont work with xfce in 12.04
[04:54] <jagginess> ClientAlive, sftp is better
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> !ssh | ClientAlive
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> ClientAlive:read up the url mate, alot of usefull info before you start transfering or cp files
[04:55] <jagginess> that ubottu is outta date, it should say the sftp command
[04:55] <crimsonmane> nerdbromancer: you're not very informed about mint then. i'll join you in #ubuntu-offtopic if you'd like to chat about it. i think we're making the ops nervous here.
[04:56] <jagginess> crimsonmane, seems like you you love to repeat it over and over to him :)
[04:56] <ClientAlive> lotuspsychje: I need to copy a file from the machine I'm on that is owned by root (specifically, my /root/.bashrc) to the other machine.  I've tried scp sudo, I've tried logging onto that other machine then doing su and loggin in as root before the scp command (with and without sudo). I'm getting tired of screwing with it.
[04:59] <crimsonmane> ClientAlive: in a terminal "sudo <name of your file manager"
[04:59] <crimsonmane> ClientAlive: also try rebooting once. i had a similar problem a couple weeks ago.
[04:59] <subcool> question. Im tired of fixing everything on ubuntu. I keep hearing/seeing "/home" being used as a great backup- Im about to start to push that myself. QUESTION- can i setup a fstab or something to mount my external or mapped devices? IN /HOME
[04:59] <ClientAlive> err...
[04:59] <subcool> ClientAlive, i love scp - make sure u dont have a firewall up
[05:00] <daemongpl> ClientAlive: just do ftp put and get commands
[05:00] <subcool> ClientAlive, scp -r /home/USER/Downloads/Torrents/OSx86/  USER@<IP_ADDRESS>:/home/USER/Downloads/PUSH/
[05:01] <subcool> ClientAlive, you have to run it from the "host" -
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> howto fix a corrupt square mouse pointer every cold boot on precise 12.04.1 clean installed
[05:04] <crimsonmane> lotuspsychje: from synaptic, i would locate the mouse and mark for reinstallation.
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> crimsonmane:i dont think its a mouse problem,cause 'nomodeset' add to grub fixes this
[05:05] <subcool> ClientAlive, let me know if it worked- i dont get the man of SCP - so i found that formula and have saved it so i can use it when i need. It works for me great- but ONLY if i use that formula. every time i try to read the man and make it work- i f' it up.
[05:05] <crimsonmane> nomodeset has more to do graphically overall than anything specifically with the mouse
[05:06] <jaequery> what is the most important linux security technology, choose one: selinux, grsecurity, cis benchmark, or bastille?
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> crimsonmane: i think its related to this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/556782
[05:08] <jagginess> jaequery, i say none of them ;0
[05:08] <jagginess> jaequery, a very good firewall is what matters most to me
[05:08] <apg> is there anybody got any message in halting ubuntu "mount:/ is busy"
[05:08] <apg> ?
[05:08] <jagginess> , and reverse proxies etc..
[05:09] <jaequery> whats a very good firewall?
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> !firewall | jaequery
[05:10] <jaequery> you mean the one w/ IDS and IDPS?
[05:10] <williamherry> when will ubuntu 12.10 release?
[05:10] <jaequery> or did you just mean to say firewall rules ala iptables
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> !12.10 | williamherry
[05:11] <williamherry> lotuspsychje, thanks
[05:11] <williamherry> join #ubuntu+1
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> !info snort | jaequery
[05:14] <jaequery> ....
[05:14] <jaequery> i feel like im in #cs101 class ...
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> !security > lotuspsychje
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> jaequery:you asked for security right
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> !security | jaequery
[05:16] <jaequery> i thought we'd been discussing about grsecurity, security access controls, rbac, by now ...
[05:17] <jaequery> it seems #ubuntu isn't up to par, compared to other channels
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> jaequery:this is an ubuntu support channel, more then a security talk
[05:18] <jaequery> i c, my bad
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> jaequery:but you can aks ubuntu security packages problems right
[05:19] <jaequery> got it, i'll take not of this.
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> jaequery:or try #ubuntu-offtopic to discuss all sorts
[05:23] <ph1rmw4r3>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY good2go
[05:23] <Assid> heya
[05:23] <Assid> isnt here openvz for ubuntu ? on 12.04 ?
[05:23] <gordaa> hola
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> !es | gordaa
[05:29] <eth1pavan> hello may i know how to change the distribution name CentOS release 6.2 (Final) to xyz release (Final)
[05:29] <eth1pavan> in the login window.
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> eth1pavan:this is an ubuntu support channel mate
[05:30] <Assid> whats a suggested virtualization environment ?
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> !info virtualbox | Assid
[05:31] <Assid> hmm.. vbox
 ok if i had to change the ubuntu distribution and logo in the login screen, how do i go about it.
[05:36] <Assid> lotuspsychje: im trying out kvm
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> eth1pavan:if you mean to change the default Os you need to edit in grub, logo can be changed with ubuntu tweak
[05:38] <kyan> Hi.. I just upgraded to Ubuntu 12.04 (from 10.10) and itś really confusing -- I have a bunch of questions. 1. How do I set the icon theme? 2. How do I get the old Dvorak International layout back (it seems to have been removed)? 3. How do I install KDE programs in Synaptic -- it says theyŕe all broken? 4. How do I fix the ugly font rasterization?
[05:38] <kyan> Thanks.
[05:38] <kyan> Iḿ sure some more will come to mind .. :P
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> !unity | kyan
[05:38] <jagginess> kyan, i'd google :)
[05:38] <jagginess> kyan, here..
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> kyan:synaptic has been removed by default, you can still install
[05:39] <kyan> lotuspsychje: Iǘe read quite a bit about Unity. None of my qusetions are related to Unity (Iḿ quite happy with Unity, itś really what I upgraded for)
[05:39] <kyan> lotuspsychje: I installed Synaptic from Ubuntu Software Centre since I couldn figure out how to use the Software Centre easily.
[05:40] <kyan> lotuspsychje: Synaptic says that I have over 100 broken packages when I read my markings from my old system.
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> kyan:its recommended to clean install precise 12.04.1
[05:40] <bawf> Is there a way to batch install fonts?
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> bawf: you can try apt-cache search fonts then install?
[05:41] <kyan> lotuspsychje: I installed from the CD image downloaded via Bittorrent. I formatted the partition for it freshly, but I used the old swap space.
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> kyan:ah so it isnt an upgrade really
[05:41] <jagginess> kyan, swapon -s<enter> see if there's one being used.. if not add it to /etc/fstab
[05:42] <kyan> jagginess: I don really need swap (Iǘe got 3GiB ram)
[05:42] <kyan> jagginess; And yes it is using swap.
[05:42] <jagginess> kyan, maybe you don't, but in the past i would get a stall if i didnt use one.
[05:43] <jagginess> hmm
[05:43] <kyan> jagginess: Ok, thanks. It seems to be working though
[05:43] <kyan> jagginess: The four questions I listed first are currently the most pressing though.
[05:43] <kyan> jagginess: Also, why does X chat no longer have a scroll bar?
[05:44] <kyan> or any scroll bars for that matter?
[05:44] <jagginess> dunno, you'll have to toy around with it.. it all depends on what you like.. unfortunately i don't use  unity..
[05:44] <jagginess> or maybe fortunately :) heeheh
[05:44] <kyan> Well it looks like therś no option under settings for scroll bars.
[05:45] <jagginess> dunno, you'll have to toy around with it..
[05:45] <jagginess> i think very few people in here actually like unity..
[05:45] <kyan> jagginess: I like Unity. the menu bar search and global menu thing seem easy.
[05:45] <jagginess> i think unity is good for newcomers and touchscreens..
[05:45] <jagginess> but i'm having problems accepting to switching to it anytime soon
[05:46] <kyan> jagginess: Well Iǘe got 7 years experience with Linux, and Iḿ using a non-touchscreen normal laptop. I guess itś just a matter of taste
[05:46] <paulus68_> #acer-liquid
[05:46] <jagginess> there are better apps that do search and menu search, (there are a few very good ones)
[05:47] <kyan> jagginess: Well I don really understand the desktop lenses thing (I like Strigi/Nepomuk/Soprano for desktop search), but I like the menu search still.
[05:47] <jagginess> kyan, well if the gfx effects don't stall on you.. then that's good.. but you should know it's the ideal gfx driver isn't always ideal/optimized for the average user..
[05:47]  * jagginess hopes valve's gfx coding efforts will change X drivers for the good
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> guys lets stick to ubuntu support problems
[05:48] <kyan> jagginess: Well the graphics seem to be working fine. Iǘe been trying to figure out where the compiz files are but I don think that will be too hard.
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> like/unlike talk to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:48] <kyan> lotuspsychje: Ok, thanks
[05:48] <kyan> sorry for the noise
[05:48] <jagginess> it's not offtopic..
[05:48] <kyan> jagginess: in a support channel it is XD
[05:49] <jagginess> he's actually using unity, and i'm buzzing i don't use it.. so if anyone uses it, maybe they can shed some light on what he wants to od..
[05:49] <kyan> jagginess: Well, itś not Unity thatś giving me problems. Itś the package management
[05:49] <jagginess> synaptic?
[05:50] <kyan> jagginess: Both Synaptic and Aptitude aren resolving dependencies correctly..
[05:50] <jagginess> use the update-manager gui app in the menu.. update the indexes with it (it'll update sources.list)
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> kyan:you could try ubuntu-tweak to sort many things out
[05:51] <jagginess> (i mean it's able to update sources.list if you choose more repos, but it also updates the local indexes of avail packages)
[05:51] <piercedwater> hi
[05:52] <jagginess> kyan, also be careful from outdated and dangerous ppa's.. be very decisive with ppa's.
[05:52] <kyan> jagginess: Updated lists; still not working
[05:53] <kyan> jagginess: I imported my ppas from the old install. I then read the saved markings, installed the software, then disabled the ppas.
[05:53] <kyan> jagginess: All I have enabled now is the main section
[05:53] <jagginess> kyan, you said you updated? it doesn't hurt to add the previous ubuntu repos you had before, in case you use an application whose libraries are obsoleted
[05:53] <kyan> jagginess: ok 1 min
[05:54] <kyan> lotuspsychje: How do I do that? I have Ubuntu Tweak installed
[05:54] <xj98jeep> Im trying to set up a software RAID on 12.04, have gotten evreything set up and now I'm trying to make the .conf file, but whenever I try to do it in terminal I get a bash: permission denied message even with root privileges how can I make the .conf file?
[05:54] <jagginess> kyan, btw-- apt-cache policy <packagename> , shows extra info from which repository
[05:54] <jagginess> kyan, you using nothing wild, like-- you really are using ubuntu and not mixing it with debian repos i hope
[05:55] <L1> I have mounted /mnt/ec2 with fuse sshfs, however I get permission denied for nearly everything. How do I run sudo as the remote user? E.g. I want to do me@mylocalpc:$ sudo mkdir /mnt/ec2/var/www/mysite
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> kyan:there's a system cleaner on board, that might do magic
[05:55] <kyan> jagginess: Iĺl pastebin my sources.list.. 1 sec
[05:55] <vkas> i cannot dial ppp using my HSUPA modem on 2G network; http://paste.ubuntu.com/1196079/
[05:55] <kyan> lotuspsychje: ok, thanks. Magic sounds good :D
[05:57] <kyan> jagginess, http://pastebin.com/abYdG9nG
[05:59] <kyan> jagginess: Still no luck. I pastebinned my sources.list: http://pastebin.com/abYdG9nG
[05:59] <kyan> ha! I found the scroll bar in Xchat!
[05:59] <kyan> yay!
[06:00] <jagginess> kyan, looks a bit dangerous to use maverick ppa's on 12.04 (you should check each ppa and see)
[06:00] <kyan> jagginess: oh maybe. Well most of the PPAs are disabled anyway. I just used them to install stuff, then disabled them
[06:00] <jagginess> kyan, as i said, apt-cache policy shows the repo..
[06:01] <RocketScience> i tried to do sudo -i and i got the error -bash: export: '=": not a valid identifier and then the same error with '/root/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin'
[06:01] <RocketScience> my bashrc file is normal... I deleted my edits and its still giving me the error
[06:02] <jagginess> RocketScience, that's more bash related
[06:02] <jagginess> RocketScience, /root/bin ?
[06:03] <kyan> jagginess: apt-cache policy output: http://pastebin.com/K0XwUnrF
[06:03] <RocketScience> thats the error it gave me. No clue why its doing itt now
[06:03] <jagginess> kyan, ahem
[06:03] <jagginess> kyan, the package that is problematic, you can do-> apt-cache policy <packagename> to show which repository it's coming from
[06:05] <kyan> jagginess: ohhh, I get it. Thanks.
[06:05] <kyan> jagginess: Itś coming from the official precise-updates
[06:05] <jagginess> RocketScience, there's #bash(i'm there)
[06:06] <jagginess> kyan, what package/libs say are missing?
[06:06] <vega-> how do i disable the feature that pops up the "Type your command" launcher whilst pressing Alt key ? I have alt-fX assigned to switch desktops and now they somehow conflict
[06:06] <jagginess> kyan, is it a versioning# ?
[06:07] <jagginess> vega-, maybe that's an accessibility thing that's on.. sometimes the metakeys are used for this..
[06:07] <kyan> jagginess: http://pastebin.com/Q21gJukj
[06:08] <vega-> jagginess: is there a setting for those somewhere? can't find in system settings..
[06:08] <jagginess> kyan, apt-cache show dolphin would show the dependencies..
[06:08] <thrasher194> how much longer do i have to wait for 12.10?
[06:08] <jagginess> vega-, must be there.. system/settings accessibility should be there somewhere
[06:08] <thrasher194> need to get sum blank dvds..
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> !12.10 | thrasher194
[06:09] <vkas> my HSUPA modem 2g connection failing : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1196086
[06:09] <kyan> jagginess: It doesn look like it has any errors in apt-cache show dolphin
[06:09] <jagginess> vega-, accessibility means people with physical problems -- (not implying you are, but there may be something set to on), there's also system/setting keyboard (shortcuts is 2nd tab)
[06:09] <someprimetime> on my server i run some websites. i'd like to set up<EMAIL_ADDRESS>to forward to my single gmail email... what do i have to do to enable that?
[06:09] <jagginess> someprimetime, not easy :/
[06:10] <thrasher194> cool!!! got a blank 160GB waiting.. :)
[06:10] <someprimetime> dang
[06:10] <jagginess> someprimetime, providing you're not relying on setting up an "mta".. i'm sure there's quick tools that can do it..
[06:10] <vega-> jagginess: yes i know, i have browsed the keyboard shortcuts already, nothing with just "Alt" ..
[06:10] <jagginess> someprimetime, but i have no idea have reliable these are..
[06:11] <someprimetime> ah alright thanks anyway jagginess
[06:11] <hateball> someprimetime: what you want to google for (if thats any help) would be "postfix catch-all" (assuming you use postfix)
[06:11] <someprimetime> ok yes!
[06:11] <someprimetime> thanks
[06:11] <someprimetime> that'll help
[06:11] <someprimetime> +1
[06:11] <FloodBot1> someprimetime: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:11] <jagginess> someprimetime, often a gui mail app can do it ..
[06:11] <jagginess> someprimetime, maybe a plugin of somesort.. but i think you want this automated right?
[06:11] <someprimetime> jagginess: correct
[06:11] <someprimetime> just if anyone somehow ends up emailing<EMAIL_ADDRESS>i'll get it
[06:12] <vkas> my HSUPA modem 2g connection failing : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1196086
[06:12] <jagginess> someprimetime, it'll take a cronjob, and maybe a sendmail.. but sendmail can be notorious (there's different implementations of it, but the simplest i think is from postfix)
[06:12] <jagginess> (but then this may mean tinkering around how to use postfix)
[06:12] <jagginess> someprimetime, apt-cache search mail|grep -i forward
[06:13] <someprimetime> jagginess: yeah i've been running into issues with sendmail and actually am using sendgrid to relay all messages generated by my app now so this whole thing is kinda hairy
[06:13] <jagginess> someprimetime, relay?
[06:13] <jagginess> someprimetime, thought you meant you're using an msa..
[06:14] <someprimetime> jagginess: well it's actually a totally separate thing but it made me think about forwarding email to my account
[06:14] <someprimetime> so it prompted me to find a solution on how to do it
[06:14] <someprimetime> i just wanted to figure out all email type stuff tonight tbhg
[06:14] <someprimetime> s/tbhg/tbh
[06:14] <malinens> hi! where do I get source for find tool?
[06:15] <jagginess> someprimetime, well you cant be an mta, but you can mimic an msa i think with postfix's sendmail (and i use exim myself-- using it's sendmail like to behave like an msa when i need to)
[06:15] <vkas> my HSUPA modem 2g connection failing; syslog : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1196086
[06:15] <someprimetime> basically i started an email list and there are a bunch of emails that are listed as part of the domain (e.g<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and it asks people to reply to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>if they are having issues so i'm like damn now i need to receive all of those...
[06:15] <someprimetime> ok well at least i know what i search for
[06:15] <someprimetime> i'll keep mucking around with it
[06:16] <jagginess> someprimetime, you'll need your own mta.. this means you'll need your registered mx servers somewhere on the net
[06:16] <kyan> jagginess: I fixed it! The trick wasn disabling the ppas, it was enabling them all!
[06:16] <someprimetime> oh wow.
[06:17] <kyan> jagginess: talk about counterintuitive.. XD
[06:17] <kyan> good enough though.. Itś Alive!!
[06:17] <jagginess> kyan, i dont think dolphin was the problematic package, but a library from a ppa more recent ..
[06:17] <kyan> oh maybe. IDK then
[06:17] <kyan> itś working now anyway :P
[06:17] <jagginess> kyan, you should of found out which package was causing it :)
[06:18] <kyan> jagginess: oh well XD
[06:18] <kyan> So next, how do I get the old key board layout back??
[06:18] <jagginess> kyan, um.. be careful you can break stuff with ppas :)
[06:18] <kyan> jagginess: yeah Iḿ really good at breaking stuff
[06:18] <kyan> lol
[06:18] <Assid> hi.. i am trying to start a kvm instance.. and im getting the following error "error: internal error cannot load AppArmor profile 'libvirt-c2c3f180-8795-e662-5a16-40db34c4bcd2'"
[06:18] <Assid> can someone help me with this
[06:18] <vkas> please help, my HSUPA modem 2g connection failing; syslog : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1196086
[06:19] <kyan> jagginess: d*mn, itś not working after all
[06:23] <hatman> Hello, using Xubuntu and I have a laptop with built-in sound controller (I think), it's from Intel but it isn't seen as output device anymore, even though I can see it in the list of physically installed soundcards
[06:24] <hatman> It worked yesterday, when I installed Xubuntu!
[06:24] <hatman> How do I make it work again?
[06:24] <sirin> hi
[06:24] <vkas> please help, my HSUPA modem 2g connection failing; syslog : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1196086
[06:25] <Guest69344> im using ubuntu 12.0.4  and my issue is that my skype is disappearing when im loggin in to it.
[06:26] <Guest69344> anyone have an idea about this
[06:26] <Guest69344> ?
[06:26] <hateball> Guest69344: Disappearing how? An icon that's gone, or the whole app uninstalled, etc?
[06:27] <SwedeMike> Guest69344: is the skype icon still there in the toolbar, if it is, right-click it and select "activate"
[06:27] <Guest69344> not uninstalling.
[06:27] <Guest69344> there is still the icon
[06:27] <Guest69344> but it forcly logged me out
[06:27] <Guest69344> i can take it and loggin again
[06:28] <SwedeMike> !enter | Guest69344
[06:28] <Guest69344> but the problem is happening only when im logged im
[06:28] <Assid> err can someone help me with this.. im getting  error: internal error cannot load AppArmor profile 'libvirt-c2c3f180-8795-e662-5a16-40db34c4bcd2' when i try and start a kvm instance
[06:28] <hatman> ok, I'm out of time, gotta go. Bye
[06:30] <vkas> please help, my HSUPA modem 2g connection failing; from syslog : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1196086
[06:30] <LorSamPau_w> hey guys, i'm trying to turn off automatic disk check in ubuntu after turning off the power... changing 1 to 0 in fstab - didn't help
[06:31] <jamster> I have an external 500gb hard drive formatted in ext3 and I want to resize it for ubuntu install does it need to be proceeding or following free space so when I boot from it from my netbook it reconizes it or does it not matter?
[06:31] <kyan> is there a way to run a command without a terminal (à la the run command window in maverick?)
[06:32] <LorSamPau_w> kyan, alt+f2
[06:32] <SwedeMike> jamster: the installer will most likely offer to resize the existing partition, so you can let it do it while installing.
[06:33] <kyan> LorSamPau_w: cool, thanks!
[06:33] <jamster> well SwedeMike I am not exactly installing it the normal way
[06:33] <Robert123> hello
[06:33] <jamster> so which would be best?
[06:33] <jamster> it is from ddrescue SwedeMike
[06:35] <Robert123> I upgraded to ubuntu 12.04 and now my system tray is missing and ubuntu is restarting to fix that, but that does not help. How do i get my system tray back?
[06:35] <SwedeMike> jamster: ubuntu should be able to boot from anywhere on a 500 gig drive, so if you need to resize it it's going to be a lot easier to shrink the existing partition.
[06:37] <jamster> okay if it works both ways does choosing one over the other effect speed? SwedeMike
[06:38] <SwedeMike> jamster: It shouldn't really.
[06:38] <push> hello trying to update /etc/hosts in a shell script \/ia sudo . but it wont work.
[06:39] <jamster> how about ddrescue two partitions do I have to make two separate partitions or will it go in the target partition without it being separate?
[06:39] <jamster> the drive I am cloning has two partitions
[06:51] <Robert123> hello, can anyone help me to get my system tray back? Panels are completely missing.
[06:53] <Kartagis> I get multiple results when I do apt-cache show firefox. how do I specify which one to install?
[06:53] <fidel> Robert123: what desktop are you running in the first place?
[06:54] <fidel> Robert123: are they still gonna after reboot - so ir the issue reproduceable?
[06:54] <fidel> or in short
[06:54] <fidel> !details > Robert123
[06:56] <Robert123> fidel: i upgraded fom 10.04 with gnome to 12.04. Now everytime i reboot the system starts without panels, recognizes the problem and tells me to reboot
[06:57] <fidel> Robert123: again - and what desktop-environment are you selecting in the boot-manager?
[06:57] <fidel> or 'login session'
[06:59] <Robert123> fidel: i used standard settings, what should i try? (problem i used the support button and ubuntu started firefx for me, so that i am using the system now)
[07:00] <yellabs-r2> what programs can i use to make perfect professional dvd's ? the top 3 ?
[07:00] <jerlyn> on Linux?
[07:01] <zruty> Anybody clever with dovecot? I keep getting "Error in configuration file /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf line 37: Expecting '=' " when I try to start the service. And there is a '='
[07:01] <yellabs-r2> yeah
[07:01] <Robert123> fidel: thank you for trying to help! I'll reboot and check the desktop settings.
[07:02] <Kartagis> zruty: #dovecot,
[07:02] <Kartagis> zruty: #dovecot
[07:02] <jerlyn> got no ideal, there's one studio for windows, I run it by wine
[07:03] <yellabs-r2> zruty , something in your config file i guess
[07:03] <zruty> Kartagis: ok, ok...
[07:04] <zruty> yellabs-r2: Yes
[07:04] <zen_monkey> what happends to bug reports when generated while offline? are they saved for later sending?
[07:04] <jerlyn> yellabs, try Ulead VideoStudio plus wine
[07:06] <yellabs-r2> zruty , did you edit dovecot.conf ?
[07:06] <yellabs-r2> what programs can i use to make perfect professional dvd's ? the top 3 ?
[07:06] <zruty> yellabs-r2: Yes.
[07:07] <jerlyn> Ulead VideoStudio
[07:07] <zruty> yellabs-r2: I do not get the error because ther IS a =
[07:07] <yellabs-r2> made a backup of the origenal file ?
[07:07] <yellabs-r2> ah
[07:07] <zruty> yellabs-r2: Yes, but I need it to work with the ports as I spicify
[07:08] <pbase> hi i want to test pidgin's audio call feature. can anyone be the other side for me?
[07:12] <yellabs-r2> zruty , pastebin dovecot conf?
[07:12] <yellabs-r2> http://pastebin.com/
[07:13] <The_BROS> Since yesterday in my Pidgin group orphans was created and all ICQ contacts doubled there
[07:16] <Ascavasaion> I have an old laptop with Intel Core Duo 1.83GHz, 2GB RAM, 320GB HDD.  Will it comfortably run Ubuntu 12.04 with Gnome classic desktop?
[07:17] <yellabs-r2> Ascavasaion , yes
[07:19] <auronandace> Ascavasaion: if you mean gnome fallback then yes
[07:22] <djabbour> Hi all. I installed 3rd party graphics drivers, and X11 is working just fine. However, during system startup, I now cannot see any messages or boot screen. Is there any way to disable high-res graphics during boot and just get it to do the textusal boot messages thing?
[07:23] <Ascavasaion> yellabs-r2: Thank you,
[07:23] <Ascavasaion> auronandace: Thank you.
[07:24] <yellabs-r2> bye all
[07:27] <Ascavasaion> Should I download 12.04.1 or 12.04?  It is a new installation, getting a new hard disk for my laptop and swapping that hard disks out.
[07:28] <MacDhuibh> 12.04 will take longer for updates
[07:28] <auronandace> Ascavasaion: may aswell get 12.04.1, unless you already have a 12.04 cd
[07:28] <crizis> doesn't matter, you get all the .1 updates anyway from update manager after installation :p
[07:28] <Ascavasaion> auronandace: Thank you :)
[07:29] <Ascavasaion> auronandace: ftp://ftp.is.co.za/ubuntu-releases/12.04.1/ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso for my Intel Core Duo 1.83GHz then?
[07:30] <Eagleman> replacement for webmin
[07:30] <The_BROS> something strange is going on with my pidgin buddy list, new
[07:30] <The_BROS> folders keep getting made titled "orphans" and random people are in it
[07:30] <MacDhuibh> Ascavasaion, yeah.
[07:30] <Ascavasaion> MacDhuibh: Thank you
[07:31] <Kartagis> I get multiple results when I do apt-cache show firefox. how do I specify which one to install?
[07:31] <auronandace> Ascavasaion: if your core duo is 64bit
[07:32] <auronandace> !ebox | Eagleman
[07:33] <Ascavasaion> auronandace: It is, thank you again.
[07:37] <ottoshmidt> hi, where is the file that lists /etc/init.d/ daemons to be launched at startup?
[07:37] <Eagleman> I am lookinf for a backup packet which can backup on windows/linux/sql/mysql
[07:38] <auronandace> !upstart | ottoshmidt
[07:39] <Spectacle_K> I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 and desktops no longer show up in the login screen. Only default desktops do. How do I fix this?
[07:43] <Spectacle_K> Anyone?
[07:43] <Spectacle_K> At least acknowledge my question?
[07:46] <Eagleman> I am looking for a backup packet which can backup on windows/linux/sql/mysql
[07:48] <BlueWolf> Hi I tryed to add this add-on to firefox ( http://www.informationweek.com/software/reviews/image-gallery-top-12-firefox-add-ons/224800005 ) But it's telling me "Not available for your platform" How do I get it to work?
[07:49] <auronandace> BlueWolf: must be windows specific
[07:51] <raven>  some problems with virtual desktop environment via tightvncserver - heavy rights problems with encrypted home-folder - help please
[07:54] <BlueWolf>
[07:54] <BlueWolf> auronandace: How could I get it working then?
[07:54] <auronandace> BlueWolf: if it is designed for windows you don't
[07:54] <BlueWolf>
[07:55] <BlueWolf> auronandace: Is there no linux version?
[07:55] <auronandace> BlueWolf: contact the addon maker, ask why he doesn't support linux
[07:55] <BlueWolf>
[07:55] <BlueWolf> auronandace: Sorry for asking, Thanks for the help.
[07:57] <raven>  some problems with virtual desktop environment via tightvncserver - heavy rights problems with encrypted home-folder - help please
[08:01] <jerry_Yunnan> :)
[08:02] <grzeslaw> emm.. I mean language in gnome..
[08:02] <GeekAdmin> Hi. I have two monitors and extending the display. Is there an application or anything I can download to get more control over the options for having multiple monitors? There are all kinds of issues I'd like to correct and hoping there is something I can use to tweek it. 12.04
[08:03] <auronandace> GeekAdmin: its entirely dependant on your graphics card
[08:04] <GeekAdmin> auronandace:  oh ok
[08:04] <GeekAdmin> auronandace:  darn
[08:04] <GeekAdmin> auronandace:  I already installed the "additional drivers" for my graphics card
[08:05] <auronandace> GeekAdmin: and your card is...
[08:05] <MacDhuibh> GeekAdmin, if you're on Unity, there should be some program in "system settings" that can let you change where the launcher is and sticky edges.
[08:06] <GeekAdmin> MacDhuibh:  Darn I dont use Unity. I use gnome or xfce
[08:06] <CQ> hello, I have thunderbird going to 100% CPU on IMAP folder switch, but nothing shows when running top, any ideas?
[08:07] <MacDhuibh> Sorry =O
[08:07] <GeekAdmin> You guys actually use Unity? I thought Unity was only for newbs or people with netbooks. Am I wrong?
[08:07] <MacDhuibh> Eh, I use 2d =P
[08:08] <auronandace> GeekAdmin: yes, anyone can use unity if they wish
[08:08] <MacDhuibh> Can't remember why i switched from xfce
[08:08] <GeekAdmin> hehe
[08:09] <GeekAdmin> To each their own. I'm not trying to put anyone down for using Unity or anything. I just didnt think it was very popular
[08:09] <GeekAdmin> popular amount experienced Linux users that is
[08:09] <GeekAdmin> *among
[08:09] <MacDhuibh> There's actually a gentoo overlay for it.
[08:09] <GeekAdmin> really?
[08:09] <bazhang> lets get back on topic GeekAdmin
[08:09] <GeekAdmin> k sorry
[08:12] <raven>  some problems with virtual desktop environment via tightvncserver - heavy rights problems with encrypted home-folder - help please
[08:17] <susundbe1g> raven: you need to describe your question little more precise so if somebody knows about the issue can help. Like write what you want to do and what is the problem
[08:19] <raven> susundbe1g randomly skype and xchat crashes at the same time with kind of message "e/a-error" does not seem a hardware problem so i think its a rights problem with the encrypted home folder. i am running some other apps via sux on a user withou encrypted home and there it seems to run well. in addidion to that kdenlive shows the hardware tuner only via root and sudo nethogs shows the vnc-traffic as unknown pid and unknown device
[08:21] <susundbe1g> i am just guessing but i would say that xchat does not crash '
[08:21] <raven> susundbe1g and now i have no rights to write via nano into my home
[08:21] <susundbe1g> randomly' if there is major problem with file permissions, since i would guess it reads all stuff on startup
[08:21] <raven> anything is messed up with the rights
[08:22] <hoyang> too many console-kit-daemon thread, how to remove this program? or, what is this program doing?
[08:22] <hoyang> help
[08:22] <susundbe1g> raven: well yeah that sounds like real problem, what does ls -lah $HOME say? you can change ownership of a directory with chown -R my-user: target_directory
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> raven: are you the owner of the entire $HOME dir?
[08:23] <hoyang> program location is /usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon
[08:24] <raven> susundbe1g obviously its the right user
[08:24] <raven> ActionParsnip it seems that i am the owner yes
[08:25] <xnixan_> Hi, i forgot what was the name of the tool previous to software center, what was it?
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> raven: you can check with:   sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> xnixan_: synaptic maybe
[08:25] <xnixan_> ActionParsnip, yep :)
[08:25] <xnixan_> thanks!
[08:27] <Kentos> o/
[08:27] <raven> ok the command succeeded
[08:27] <raven> how to verify?
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> raven: try do what you were doing before....
[08:27] <susundbe1g> raven: try to nano the file that editing failed earlier?
[08:29] <raven> ActionParsnip susundbe1g no change
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> raven: nano seems to have an issue with running with sudo, it changes the ownership of ~/.nano_history to roor:$USER   which only means that when you run it you get a warning
[08:29] <raven> yes i deleted it but it does not work
[08:30] <Kentos> you deleted what?
[08:30] <raven> the .nano_hist
[08:31] <raven> because that appeared as root in ls -la
[08:32] <susundbe1g> mhh, after 'sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME' that should not be the case
[08:32] <raven> top
[08:32] <raven> and xtightvnc seems to run as the right user too
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> raven: are you VNCing, then running a terminal on the desktop?
[08:35] <raven> yes but i could do external too
[08:35] <raven> nevessary?
[08:35] <raven> c
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> raven: why not just install openssh-server then connect via SSH, you don't need the full desktop to do CLI stuff. It wil also be faster and use drastically fewer resources
[08:37] <raven> ActionParsnip i do already but i need to run some graphical apps on the machine too
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> raven: you can run GUI apps via SSH too, they will be running on the server bu appear on the client system, much like citrix :)
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> raven: or do the CLI stuff via ssh and then run the gui stuff via vnc
[08:39] <raven> ActionParsnip nooo the apps need to run when i am not connected too
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> raven: ahh i see
[08:42] <raven> anything i could try next?
[08:46] <Kartagis> I get multiple results when I do apt-cache show firefox. how do I specify which one to install?
[08:47] <hateball> Kartagis: the package "firefox" will suffice
[08:47] <hateball> that is, apt-get install firefox
[08:48] <Kartagis> hateball: I did that, and it says 16 was installed, but when I restart ff, it is still 14
[08:48] <middleton88> hey guys ive been trying to get my evo lte unbricked for awhile now is there anyone here thsat can help me out
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> raven: what apps are you running?
[08:49] <hateball> Kartagis: umm... are you using a PPA or something? 16 is not in the official repo. apt-get update && apt-get upgrade should put you on 15
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> middleton88: i'd try in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:50] <middleton88> ohh really something wasnt working i couldnt see anyones text and i couldnt send anything
[08:53] <middleton88> ActionParsnip i messaged u in the private message area
[08:56] <middleton88> hey guys so i installed ubuntu and ran the commands to get my evo unbricked and it said that evrything seemed to be fine after eating 11 out of 11 bamboos i also tried to get out of the q-dload mode but i cant get there from the suggested cd desktop i had to do it from cd downloads anyone have any suggestions
[08:56] <pungi_man> my "ctrl" button is not working on VirtualBox .. can anyone help me ?
[08:56] <middleton88> please help been trying to get my evo back for a week now
[08:57] <eman_> ubuntu 12.04 32bit, ID 148f:2870 Ralink Technology, Corp. RT2870 Wireless Adapte, randomley looses internett connection? help
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> pungi_man: does it work in the host?
[08:57] <pungi_man> yes
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> pungi_man: i'd ask in #vbox too :)
[08:57] <ozette> pungi_man, right ctrl button?
[08:57] <joobie> is Ubuntu planning to fix GPT support for the installer?
[08:57] <pungi_man> ozette, yes
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> eman_: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[08:58] <joobie> it was such a PITA to set it up ..
[08:58] <eman_> precise
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> eman_: can you pastebin the output of:  lsmod    please
[08:59] <ozette> pungi_man, you want to use the ctrl button to escape out of your machine?
[09:00] <eman_> ActionParsnip, how to do that whit out getting blocked for spam?
[09:00] <pungi_man> no i am installing ArchLinux and I want to kill the nano process, ozette
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> eman_: sudo apt-get install pastebinit; lsmod | pastebinit
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> pungi_man: ctrl+x will exit nano, use the other ctrl if necessary
[09:01] <ozette> pungi_man, oh I see the ctrl button is probably captured by virtual box
[09:01] <pungi_man> ozette, I typed nano /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist       then made some changes and now I want to close it!
[09:01] <pungi_man> ActionParsnip, I tried ... its not working!
[09:01] <joobie> guys
[09:01] <joobie> is the ubuntu installer meant to support GPT out of the box?
[09:01] <joobie> because i found it such a PITA to setup
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> pungi_man: maybe its a known issue with arch + virtualbox
[09:02] <ozette> pungi_man, left ctrl + x should ask for a save changes
[09:02] <ozette> pungi_man, oof ..
[09:02] <pungi_man> ozette, I tried left and right ctrl ... its not working
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> pungi_man: I'd ask in #vbox and #archlinux
[09:03] <pungi_man> ActionParsnip, wait i will try!
[09:04] <joobie> echo echooo echoooo
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> eman_: as long as you use a pastebin site (like http://pastie.org or similar) it's fine. The command I gave is just a way to get the paste made via CLI
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> eman_: you need to manually copy and paste the URL in here
[09:04] <ozette> pungi_man, that's silly but, good luck :-)
[09:04] <eman_> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1196299/
[09:05] <joobie> ee cc hh oo
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> eman_: try:   echo "blacklist rt2800usb" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf > /dev/null       and reboot. If you get no wireless at all, simply remove the last line from /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and reboot again
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> eman_: source https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/460323
[09:08] <eman_> ActionParsnip,  thanks will try that :)
[09:09] <tacirus> Hello folks, I`v got a strange issue with Compiz. Just as I press the shortcut keys to activate "toggle filter" effect, my windows get stuck. Does anybody know what the trouble is?
[09:09] <lewis> why the windows installer is limited as far as allocating hard drive space for ubuntu goes
[09:10] <lewis> im limited to 30gb even though i have 1tera
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> lewis: how much free space do you have though
[09:12] <lewis> its a new system, ActionParsnip, more than enough 1.29tb
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> lewis: If you resize the NTFS in Windows7, you can instal Ubuntu to its own partition. Easier to work with by far
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> lw
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> lewis: any particular reson to want to use wubi?
[09:13] <MonkeyDust> wubi :(
[09:13] <lewis> ActionParsnip: i dont have blank cds :)
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> lewis: got a 1Gb USB stick or SD card?
[09:14] <lewis> ActionParsnip: but the end result is the same, isnt it
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> lewis: no
[09:14] <lewis> ActionParsnip: nope. i just have an external hd
[09:14] <lewis> ActionParsnip, how come the end result is diff
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> lewis: wubi installs to a file on your NTFS, a rel install uses it's own partition and wil not be affected by fragmentation in WIndows
[09:14] <MagnusBS> Got a problem with my wireless, only getting 1mbit of 12mbit, dont know why (fresh on ubuntu).
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> lewis: wubi loop mounts the disk file, then boots it rather than using a true partition
[09:15] <lewis> ok i see
[09:15] <lewis> thanks
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> MagnusBS: can you pastebin the output of:  sudo lshw -C network; lsb_release -a; uname -a; sudo rfkill list
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> MagnusBS: also, do you dual boot?
[09:15] <lewis> ActionParsnip: is it possible to install it using an external hd
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> lewis: sure, you'll just need a small partition on it to put the ISO on using unetbootin and it will boot
[09:16] <lewis> hmm
[09:16] <lewis> sounds complicated
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> lewis: you can resize NTFS in Windows7 easily
[09:18] <MagnusBS>   *-network                       description: Ethernet interface        product: 82579V Gigabit Network Connection        vendor: Intel Corporation        physical id: 19        bus info: pci@0000:00:19.0        logical name: eth0        version: 04        serial: c8:60:00:e2:26:c1        capacity: 1Gbit/s        width: 32 bits        clock: 33MHz        capabilities: pm msi bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp 10bt 10bt-fd 100
[09:18] <MagnusBS> autonegotiation        configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=e1000e driverversion=1.5.1-k firmware=0.13-4 latency=0 link=no multicast=yes port=twisted pair        resources: irq:56 memory:f7400000-f741ffff memory:f7439000-f7439fff ioport:f040(size=32)   *-network        description: Wireless interface        product: AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter        vendor: Atheros Communications Inc.        physical id: 0
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> MagnusBS: use a pastebin, as I said. Thanks
[09:18] <MagnusBS> ah
[09:18] <MagnusBS> yeah
[09:18] <FloodBot1> MagnusBS: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> MagnusBS: indeed
[09:21] <lewis> ActionParsnip: I dont want to lose my file
[09:21] <MagnusBS> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1196326/
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> lewis: the backups you have made will prevent data loss
[09:22] <MagnusBS> I dont use dual boot, currently only running on Ubuntu
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> MagnusBS: echo "options ath9k nohwcrypt=1" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf > /dev/null
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> MagnusBS: source: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1746326
[09:23] <lewis> ActionParsnip: what backups?
[09:23] <MagnusBS> Put this line in terminal: echo "options ath9k nohwcrypt=1" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf > /dev/null
[09:23] <MagnusBS> ?
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> lewis: if your data is important, you will have made a backup in case of catastrophe
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> MagnusBS: yes, its a single command. Reboot to test
[09:23] <fidel> lewis: the backups everyone SHOULD do in case he feels his files are somehow worth something ;)
[09:24] <joobie> guys
[09:24] <joobie> does ubuntu handle GPT installs
[09:24] <joobie> YES or NO
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> joobie: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#BIOS.2BAC8-GPT_Notes
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> joobie: source: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ubuntu+handle+GPT+installs   too hard?
[09:25] <joobie> ok
[09:25] <joobie> so why doesnt the grub install handle this
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> joobie: ask in #grub
[09:25] <gordonjcp> joobie: why would it?
[09:25] <joobie> its not really a grub issue
[09:26] <joobie> the partitoin could be created by ubuntu
[09:26]  * ActionParsnip doesn't even know what gpt is, but managed to find some information....weird that
[09:26] <gordonjcp> joobie: if your OS disk is larger than 4TB, you're doing something wrong
[09:27] <joobie> gordonjcp, why?
[09:28] <joobie> .. given you can buy a 4TB 3.5" disk, i think you are living in the past
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> gordonjcp: we have a company using doubletake to a 5Tb SAN, works well :)
[09:28] <Iron|2> You know, I remember ubuntu causing me eyestrain, it isn't causing me eyestrain in this version (12.04). What was changed to ubuntu that resulted in this?
[09:28] <fidel> Iron|2: i doubt we can answer what might have caused eestrain for YOU in the past ;)
[09:29] <fidel> reverse logic
[09:29] <Iron|2> it was specifically ubuntu, I think 11.10?
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> Iron|2: later drivers, later xorg version maybe
[09:29] <crizis> just.. lulz
[09:29] <Iron|2> probably.
[09:29] <fidel> could be everything and nothing
[09:29] <Iron|2> specifically ubuntu though, as soon as I looked at it, instant headache, now it's fine... so weird.
[09:31] <brainiarc7> Who has ever compiled mesa on Ubuntu from scratch and succeeded?
[09:32] <billc> i would like to connect  a belkin home base control center
[09:32] <Iron|2> billc, is it a driver issue or a configuration issue?
[09:32] <joobie> wats a belkin control center do?
[09:33] <gordonjcp> joobie: I have a couple of 4TB disks; I'm not so stupid as to try to boot off them
[09:33] <billc> it makes lan printers appear wireless, think it is driver
[09:33] <krababbel> joobie: even windows doesn't really support it, backup is screwed
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> billc: can you ping the device's IP?
[09:34] <Iron|2> did you set it up properly on the network? has it worked before?
[09:34] <billc> it works in windows 7
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> billc: doesn't answer the question?
[09:35] <joobie> krababbel, windows is shit
[09:35] <billc> can't get to it in ubuntu
[09:35] <joobie> krababbel, centos / rhel supports it
[09:36] <joobie> gordonjcp, i can boot off mine..
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> billc: can you ping the device from Ubuntu?
[09:36] <joobie> just had to plug the holes with ubuntu installer
[09:36] <joobie> in order to do so
[09:36] <billc> give me the inst please
[09:36] <joobie> but given 2TB+ disks are common these days, it shouldnt be so hard for ubuntu to install on this config
[09:36] <fidel> billc: could you at least try to use full sentences?
[09:37] <fidel> it might help us understand YOU ;)
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> billc: I am asking you a question, if you don't reply to people's questions with the details requested we cannot help you
[09:37] <adekto> i cant get my wireles logitech k360 to work on ubuntu
[09:37] <billc> sorru the instruction to ping the belkin control center
[09:37] <crizis> http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> billc: yes, can you ping it's IP?
[09:38] <fidel> billc: open a terminal & enter: ping DE.VI.CE.IP
[09:38] <krababbel> ping it
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> fidel: you do know s/he'll probably just run that exact command ;)
[09:38] <fidel> ActionParsnip: hehe
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> billc: you need to find out the device's IP and try and ping it, does it respond?
[09:38] <fidel> billc: where you replace DE.VI.CE.Ip with the IP-number configured for that specific device
[09:39] <billc> how do i find the ip address
[09:39] <fidel> this command will tell us if you can reach it via your network using simple icmp-echo-requests
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> billc: you can check your routers IP list, or consult your windows install. The printer port will tell you in the printer properties
[10:00] <MagnusBS> Well, the command to fix my internet speed did not work out. So I posted an new topic on ubuntu forums under networking & wireless in hope that someone out there can help me. I also have another problem
[10:01] <T|ASK> Hi, does anyone know a source with game modding tools for Linux. Especially Steam's Source engine related decompiling tools?
[10:01] <gdane1> hi
[10:02] <MagnusBS> Im running ubuntu on 120gb SSD disk, I have 3 other HDD in my pc. I can only connect two of the HDD, when I connect my third HDD ubuntu wont load, stuck on the purple screen in the boot proccess.
[10:02] <gordonjcp> T|ASK: not yet, but they do use Linux internally
[10:02] <gordonjcp> T|ASK: wait until Steam and Source are released for Linux, Real Soon Now...
[10:02] <gdane1> does spp bluetooth keyboard work with ubuntu?
[10:03] <T|ASK> gordonjcp: ok, so there is no decomiling tool right now? Because I wanted to mod something before they come out with Steam for Linux
[10:03] <gdane1> i have hp foundable one and it connects vie bluetooth adapter, but i cant type by this keyboard
[10:03] <gdane1> this isnt hid keyboard
[10:04] <dr_willis> MagnusBS:  hit  esc. or use tect mode to look at any errormessages
[10:04] <T|ASK> gordonjcp: As I see it, I would also need the Steam SDK for Linux... ok, that's what breaks my quetion
[10:04] <MagnusBS> hit esc when its stuck on the purple screen?
[10:04] <dr_willis> yes
[10:04] <dr_willis> or
[10:04] <dr_willis> ! text
[10:05] <MagnusBS> ok, ill try
[10:10] <rigo> what command is used to backup (and restore) the whole / root filesystem?
[10:11] <MonkeyDust> rigo  you can use rsync --progress from to
[10:11] <dr_willis> ! backup
[10:11] <rigo> gosh thanks :)
[10:12] <dr_willis> its all about the details.. where storing the backup. how often. how to restore... and more
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> rigo: its a bit more than a single command
[10:14] <rigo> only "one-time" manual backup, i just dont want to begin from 0 if i ruin something. so if i do something what works fine, i do a backup and delete the previous bakcup. if something goes shitty i restore the last good version. :)
[10:14] <MagnusBS> Im now in the grub menu, what should i look for here?
[10:14] <troulouliou_dev> Hi i installed lxde  + lxdm on an old laptop runnin under ubuntu ; when the computer boots , i have a black screen . I have to pus the standby button then resume to have access to lxdm
[10:14] <MagnusBS> Connected to to mirc at my laptop
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> troulouliou_dev: why install lxdm when you already had lightdm
[10:16] <muh2000> does ubuntu have an installer that works from CLI?
[10:16] <troulouliou_dev> ActionParsnip, softer , prefer that one and remove lots of dependencies too to prevent massive permanent upgrade
[10:16] <muh2000> because the gui installer sucks hard and doesnt install squat.
[10:16] <troulouliou_dev> ActionParsnip, any idea to my problem ?
[10:16] <dr_willis> !text
[10:16] <gdane1> does ubuntu work with spp bluetooth devices?
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> muh2000: the default instaleer installs a lot of apps, the mini ISO hardly installs anything
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> gdane1: I believe so
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> troulouliou_dev: did you have lightdm installed before?
[10:17] <gdane1> hmm may be u know right manual?
[10:17] <muh2000> ActionParsnip: i asked for a way to install from cli since the gui installer does not work. i did not ask for different flavours...
[10:17] <troulouliou_dev> ActionParsnip, yes
[10:17] <MagnusBS> In the grub menu i dont have the option to start it with text-only mode
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> muh2000: its not a different flavour at all, its an installer that installs kernel, boot loader and some package tools
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> muh2000: no DE, WM, DM etc, just CLI, less than server
[10:18] <dr_willis> MagnusBS:  read what the bot is saying.. you ADD the 'text' option to the end of a line
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> muh2000: you can then install what you wish and build the OS up
[10:18] <muh2000> ActionParsnip: yeah but i have ONE ubuntu install image. i have no other ways of installing right now... and all i need is a way to install it.
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> troulouliou_dev: could try uninstaling lightdm if you aren't going to use it
[10:19] <dr_willis> quiet splash    becomes  -  'quiet splash text' or just 'text'
[10:19] <troulouliou_dev> ActionParsnip, done
[10:19] <muh2000> ActionParsnip: please start reading what i wrote... i didnt look for a minimum install. just an alternative for the failing gui installer
[10:19] <muh2000> is that SOOO hard to understand?
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> muh2000: use the alternate installer then, it installs in text mode but gives a desktop OS
[10:20] <muh2000> ActionParsnip: no access to the alternate installer.
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> muh2000: did you update ubiquity in the liveCD OS before running it?
[10:20] <muh2000> ActionParsnip: no?
[10:20] <muh2000> why would i do that?
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> muh2000:  so it's the latest version before you run it, obviously
[10:21] <muh2000> ActionParsnip: well duh but shouldnt any version be sufficient? i figure since they released the livecd of the LTS ....
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> muh2000: there may be updates which fix issues, its worth doing
[10:23] <muh2000> ActionParsnip: well it complains about having not enough space.... well no wonder when it is running in ram...
[10:24] <rocket_hamster> hello i did apt-get update and now I cant install libsdl1.2-dev http://pastebin.com/xHckdBgG any ideas please? (lastest ubuntu)
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> muh2000: when you downloaded the ISO, did you MD5 test it before you used it?
[10:25] <epzil0n> hey guys, just a quick question i'm about to install ubuntu and i got 4GB ram and in the past i have always installed a 2GB swap partition if i had 1GB but do i need it when i got 4?
[10:25] <bonzo> Hi, I upgraded from 10.04 to 12.04 and now I can't login with 1 user. Log files aren't helping.
[10:25] <muh2000> ActionParsnip: yes
[10:26] <epzil0n> and if i need/should have one is it enough with 2GB?
[10:26] <bonzo> can anyone tell me where to find why it isn't logging in?
[10:26] <jrib> bonzo: you should say what happens when you try
[10:26] <bonzo> I insert the password, the screen goes black and then i'm back at the login screen
[10:26] <jrib> epzil0n: you should have a swap at least qual to the size of your ram if you want to suspend to disk
[10:27] <Mo> Hi, on Live-CD isn't there a sshd server? Is the only way by installing openssh-server?
[10:27] <epzil0n> jrib: ah ok, so 4GB it is :P
[10:27] <jrib> bonzo: check ~/.xsession-errors (for the user in question) and /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:27] <MonkeyDust> Mo  you have to install it
[10:27] <jrib> Mo: not installed by default; yes
[10:27] <epzil0n> jrib: thx :)
[10:27] <Mo> MonkeyDust: Where does the live cd install stuff?  Because fetching all updates would fill my ram then?
[10:29] <MonkeyDust> Mo  updates will be gone, when you switch off to pc
[10:29] <Mo> Anyway my old 9.10 live cd cannot get apt-get update anymore, no sources found. I'll look for a newer live cd, if there are still maintained for ppc.
[10:29] <MonkeyDust> Mo  start from the beginning, what do you want to do
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: Katmic is EOL
[10:31] <Mo> I need to repartition my Gentoo-PPC, and the ubuntu live cd was always better stuffed than the gentoo-ppc universal disk. But now I need to ssh into the live cd and I've seen there is no sshd, apt-get install doesn't work. I'll look for a newer one than old 9.10
[10:32] <alpre> Does Ubuntu still use Grub1?
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> alpre: not anymore by default, it can be used but its not advised
[10:32] <alpre> ActionParsnip: thanks
[10:32] <dr_willis> an old  unsupported release has the repos moved to some 'archive' server. thats why apt-get is failing - the sources.list is out of date
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> mo: you will need a newer release and you can install openssh-server to get ssh access
[10:33] <Mo> Nice, I'll go for quantal-desktop-powerpc.iso      thanks..
[10:33] <muh2000> is there an updated version of the liveCD?
[10:33] <apg> I do not think so
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> mo: its prerelease and may have issues, if you want stable then go for precise.
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> muh2000: you could try the daily ISO, if one exists
[10:34] <muh2000> hmmm
[10:34] <apg> Ubuntu iso is getting bigger in capacity
[10:35] <bonzo> jrib: nothing get added to xsession when retrying
[10:35] <Iron|2> Hey, I need some help: I have libreoffice3 writer installed(nothing else of libreoffice3). I minimised 3 word windows... they refuse to reopen.
[10:36] <jrib> bonzo: not xsession, "~/.xsession-errors"
[10:36] <crizis> Iron_Chef, try hitting super-w to show all windows
[10:36] <bonzo> jrib: yes sorry that's what i meant
[10:36] <Iron|2> lol, chef.... is super the "windows key?"
[10:36] <crizis> yes
[10:36] <jrib> bonzo: can you login with a fresh new user?
[10:36] <apg> iron: Yes
[10:37] <Iron|2> it worked, but the problem itself is still there
[10:37] <Iron|2> so this is only a workaround, is there any way to fix it? Is it a known issue?
[10:37] <bonzo> jrib: There were 2 users, the second one is the one i'm using now and i can login correctly
[10:37] <Mo> ActionParsnip: You mean http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/precise/daily-live/current/ is the current stable?
[10:38] <apg> Is there anybody here from Indonesia?
[10:38] <Eagleman> How do you type more than 3 Hypervisor?
[10:38] <jrib> bonzo: pastebin ~/.xsession-errors and /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:38] <Eagleman> Hypervisors or Hypervisor's?
[10:38] <jrib> Eagleman: ##english
[10:39] <crizis> Iron|2, unity i assume? just tried opening 2 docs, minimizing them, works fine. clicking dock icon once brings latest one on top, clicking it again brings both 2 windows on screen
[10:40] <Iron|2> yes, I am using unity, clicking it does nothing
[10:40] <Iron|2> rightclicking presents a menu with 3 options: blank(I mean, there's a space that's blank and highlights), lock, quit.
[10:40] <Iron|2> quit does nothing
[10:40] <Iron|2> blank obviously des nothing
[10:41] <drecute> hello all
[10:41] <Iron|2> there is no "all" person here that you speak of
[10:41] <drecute> Please where can i find apxs2?
[10:41] <crizis> Iron|2, did you install writer on _this session_?
[10:41] <dr_willis> !find apxs22
[10:41] <drecute> aplologies
[10:41] <drecute> hello everyone
[10:42] <dr_willis> !find apxs
[10:42] <crizis> Iron|2, i've noticed dock sometimes handless apps buggily until you logout
[10:42] <Iron|2> crizis, I think I did install it on this session (you mean no logoffs or restarts right?)
[10:42] <dr_willis> whats 'apxs'
[10:42] <Iron|2> ok, I will log out and in brb
[10:42] <drecute> dr_willis: I'm using apache prefork and I have apache2-prefork-dev installed
[10:43] <drecute> dr_willis: by what I've read, apxs should be in any of the 2 places
[10:43] <bonzo> jrib: Xorg.0.log http://pastebin.com/Lz60ZLnW xsession-errors http://pastebin.com/Ch6fBtwu
[10:44] <drecute> dr_willis:  as mentioned here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1425646
[10:44] <drecute> dr_willis:  apxs is an apache extension tool
[10:44] <dr_willis> i dont use apachre. so no idea on that.  bot mentioned it in several packages
[10:45] <Iron|2> it appears to be working, thanks.
[10:45] <dr_willis> the apache  -dev packages ;)
[10:45] <drecute> okay
[10:47] <opieng> Anyone know which version of ubuntu does not require hardware with "pae"?
[10:47] <Iron|2> what is pae?
[10:48] <apg> physical address extention?
[10:48]  * Iron|2 doesn't know what that is, me cannot help.
[10:49] <apg> kernel version for 32 bit processor to access more RAM as in 64 bit processor?
[10:49] <m3pow> hey guys !
[10:49] <Iron|2> oh, I know what that is
[10:49] <m3pow> i have a problem after installing ubuntu
[10:49] <Iron|2> a 32 bit version of ubuntu I would guess
[10:49] <gordonjcp> opieng: 64-bit
[10:49] <m3pow> 12.04 64 bit on a laptop
[10:50] <m3pow> sistem starts good after that it becomes hidiously slow
[10:50] <m3pow> any thoughts ?
[10:50] <Iron|2> I don't think the 32 bit version of ubuntu would require pae, it is an optional extension as far as I know.
[10:50] <gordonjcp> m3pow: lots of disk access?
[10:50] <Iron|2> maybe you have a virus.
[10:50] <m3pow> virus on a fresh installed OS ?
[10:50] <gordonjcp> Iron|2: it would if you want more than 4GB
[10:50] <m3pow> everything formated
[10:50] <gordonjcp> it's not a virus
[10:50] <Iron|2> but it wouldn't "require it" though would it?
[10:50] <gordonjcp> viruses don't exist on Linux
[10:51] <m3pow> gordonjcp i did noticed a lot of CPU load
[10:51] <m3pow> 60 ~ 80 without doing anything
[10:51] <Iron|2> what cpu do you have m3pow?
[10:51] <m3pow> C2D P8400 @ 2.26
[10:51] <gordonjcp> m3pow: what does top say?
[10:51] <m3pow> laptop is a HDX 18 , HP
[10:52] <m3pow> i could not use it at all
[10:52] <Iron|2> hmm, my guess would be overheating forcing the cpu to underclock itself.
[10:52] <m3pow> on win , for a while now
[10:52] <Iron|2> that guess is based on experience.
[10:52] <Iron|2> are you currently on windows now?
[10:52] <m3pow> yes....grrr
[10:52] <apg> self throttling?
[10:52] <Iron|2> http://www.techpowerup.com/realtemp/
[10:52] <Iron|2> grab realtemp, for windows
[10:52] <m3pow> you wanna know the CPU temp ?
[10:53] <Iron|2> what are the temperatures, and apg, yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I've experienced it before.
[10:53] <Iron|2> I do
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> gordonjcp: there are viruses, just very few :)
[10:54] <gordonjcp> ActionParsnip: there are no practical ones
[10:54] <apg> you can install psensor for ubuntu in par with realtemp
[10:54] <m3pow> i got a 52degree centigrade tem
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> gordonjcp: oh absolutely but they are around. There is a Java one which affects linux nowadays
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> m3pow: do you use a hybrid video card (Intal and nvidia for example)
[10:55] <jrib> bonzo: probably the same as https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/583525 . There's some comment there about it possibly being related to xfs (do you have that installed?).  If not, then I would suggest renaming most of your config files and slowly naming them back to narrow down the culprit
[10:55] <Iron|2> apg, i just installed psensor... it only seems to show cpu usage.
[10:56] <m3pow> ActionParsnip i have a nvidia 9600m dedicated GPU
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> m3pow: no intel GPU as well?
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> m3pow: which nvidia driver are you using?
[10:56] <m3pow> latest
[10:56] <Iron|2> is it trying to update?
[10:56] <m3pow> remember i am on win now ...grrr
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> m3pow: what does nvidia-setings say the version is?
[10:57] <m3pow> because i could not make the damn thing run propertly
[10:57] <apg> iron|2: install lm_sensors first
[10:57] <m3pow> i got the latest from nvidia website mate ..when i tried to install the linux driver
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> m3pow: there are packages for the drivers, you don't need the nvidia site at all
[10:58] <apg> iron|2: then, when lm_sensors installed, try this command: sudo sensors-detect. Then, re-open psensor
[10:58] <m3pow> that i did not know as i am relatively new to this
[10:58] <bonzo> jrib: xfs is not installed. Which config files should i rename? I already tried Xorg.conf .
[10:59] <jrib> bonzo: the ones in your ~
[10:59] <m3pow> ActionParsnip where can i get these packages ?
[11:00] <apg> My Ubuntu nowadays takes more time to enter unity, hdd acces indicator-light is active for a longer time
[11:00] <m3pow> you have the latest one ?
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> m3pow: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-update; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[11:01] <m3pow> thank you !
[11:01] <Iron|2> didn't work
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> apg: have you tested your RAM?
[11:01] <Iron|2> oh well.
[11:02] <apg> but it seems that it is not a case when I'm entering Kde
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> apg: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[11:03] <apg> ActionParsnip: or other xfce and lxde
[11:04] <apg> actionparsnip: precise
[11:04] <nicklas> Hi All. I'm running amazon ec2 with Ubuntu 12.04 server. When ssh'ing to the machine I cannot use tab to autocomplete and up to see previous commands. Whats wrong?
[11:04] <Iron|2> apg, how many cores does your laptop have?
[11:05] <apg> 2 cores, 4 threads
[11:05] <Iron|2> nicklas, did you try the history command?
[11:05] <Iron|2> your ubuntu may simply be trying to patch itself
[11:05] <apg> core i5 2410m
[11:05] <nicklas> history: not found
[11:05] <dr_willis> nicklas:  you may not be using bash, or the bash scripts are not enabling completion
[11:05] <Iron|2> did you select automatic updates?
[11:05] <dr_willis> echo $SHELL
[11:05] <nicklas> Just used quick start so no idea.
[11:05] <apg> iron|2:  yes
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> apg: maybe its a compiz thing, if yuo log in to the Unity2D session, is it ok?
[11:06] <Iron|2> hmm, I would try turning nyour laptop on and leaving it for a bit
[11:06] <nicklas> echo $SHELL: /bin/sh
[11:06] <dr_willis> there ya go... use bash..
[11:06] <nicklas> Thanks alot
[11:06] <apg> actionparsnip: the same thing with ubuntu 2d
[11:06] <nicklas> :)
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> !away > md_5|away
[11:07] <md_5|away> Still annoys me how people do that
[11:07] <Iron|2> actually, isn't 2540m got that funky intel hd graphics? you know, the one that HATES unity?
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> apg: so its not a WM issue, if you make a new user and log in as that is it ok? Log in twice to the session so that the blank configs can be created
[11:07] <md_5|away> I go away twice a day..
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> md_5|away: then don't change nick
[11:07] <md_5|away> Some people join / part 5 times a day
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> md_5|away: I leave and go a lot, you don't have to change nick, just leave
[11:08] <md_5|away> ActionParsnip the difference being?
[11:08] <apg> iron|2: I have a dedicated nvidia card
[11:08] <Iron|2> woah
[11:08] <md_5|away> A nick change is the same as a join part
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> md_5|away: yes, joining and parting is fine, but no need to chjange nick, thats all
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> md_5|away: if you want to idle, just idle
[11:08] <md_5|away> .... how is joining / parting better than nick changing?
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> md_5|away: ive been dipping in and out
[11:08] <billc> i have tried to find an ip address for my belkin home base control center even in widows ipconfig /all to no avail
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> md_5|away: because the user can't control that
[11:09] <Iron|2> apg, the second and third gen core series of cpus are capable of running in either integrated or dedicated. Go into your nvidia control panel, find the setting that says graphics processor or something along those lines
[11:09] <Iron|2> force it to use your "high performance" nvidia processor
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> md_5|away: but reducing excessive and unecessary text helps the channel
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> md_5|away: its channel policy too, hence the factoid
[11:09] <Iron|2> also, 540m?
[11:10] <apg> iron|2: yes, that's right
[11:11] <apg> actionparnship: I have another user and it is also affected
[11:11] <Iron|2> apg, nothing significant about my asking, I just find it entertaining to correctly guess other people's hardware
[11:11] <Iron|2> you didn't choose that 540m over a 630m though did you?
[11:12] <apg> the 630m had not been released yet at the time
[11:13] <apg> as far as I am aware
[11:14] <orogor> hi
[11:14] <Iron|2> alright, no probs... btw, the 630m is a renamed 540m (I have one).
[11:14] <apg> orogor, hi
[11:14] <orogor> considering than system-config-lvm is broken , is there any gui left for managing lvm ?
[11:14] <orogor> apart evms
[11:15] <opieng> Iron|2 sorry for the late response, I tried the i386 desktop version and it says requires "pae" is this suprising?
[11:16] <Iron|2> INCREDIBLY, did you try a 1686? also, if your cpu is 64 bit capable, you should try a 64 bit version of ubuntu (the only cpu I know that isn't 64 bit capable is celerons).
[11:17] <Iron|2> pentiums, cores, xeons etc are all 64 bit capable
[11:17] <opieng> Iron|2 lol I have a celeron
[11:17] <Iron|2> well there's your problem
[11:17] <Iron|2> try the 1686 version
[11:17] <opieng> oh
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> apg: pentium 3 isnt 64bit :)
[11:18] <LorSamPau_w> and 2 and 1
[11:18] <Iron|2> let's just ignore everything before and including pentium 4
[11:18] <opieng> Iron|2 where can I find the 1686 version?
[11:19] <opieng> I can't seem to find it?
[11:19] <dr_willis> lubuntu and xubuntu vome with the non-pae kernel by default also
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> Iron|2: Core Duo 1.2GHz CPU   is 32bit dual core
[11:19] <Iron|2> hmm, I'm not sure. lemme have a look
[11:19] <apg> I'm using precise 64bit version
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> Iron|2: it is, I own one
[11:20] <Iron|2> well there's an acception to every rule I guess
[11:20] <Iron|2> I mean exception