[00:01] <rocko> beeks: i searched for but and found nothing
[00:01] <theone> people, i need some assistance fixing an HP laptop through ubuntu. I am currently running ubuntu from an external HDD and trying to install it in the internal HDD (which when i tried using lice CD completely failed). any help?
[00:01] <rocko> beeks: i searched and found nothing
[00:02] <hydrajump> trism: so it is possible. the first option you describe what would I need to do to unity-greeter before recompiling for prime to show up and is this difficult to compile and install?
[00:02] <rocko> bekks: damn i cant type today sorry   i cant find either
[00:02] <bekks> rocko: So both tools arent found when typting "which mii-tool" and "which ethtool"?
[00:03] <rocko> bekks: sorry i typed in treminal and /sbin/mii-tool
[00:04] <rocko> bekks: /sbin/ethtool
[00:05] <rocko> bekks: sorry iam a win > linux convert here lol still learning
[00:05] <bekks> rocko: So whats the output of "sudo mii-tool eth0"
[00:06] <Qwertie> I somehow managed to hide the clock in the top right of unity and I cant figure out how to get it back. The clock settings under time & date are all grayed out.
[00:07] <rocko> bekks: eth0: negotiated 1000baseT-FD flow-control, link ok
[00:08] <CpuID> hey ppls, ive got a kernel module (ixgbevf) which exists in both the standard kernel, and an updated module installed with dkms. the original exists as kernel/drivers/net/ethernet/intel/ixgbevf/ixgbevf.ko and the new exists as updates/dkms/ixgbevf.ko. whats the safest way to disable/remove the original module to ensure the new module will load as its replacement everytime on boot?
[00:10] <hydrajump> trism: I found this http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/trusty/unity-greeter/trusty/view/head:/src/menubar.vala#L240 but I'm not sure what I'd need to add to load the python indicator. Have you done this?
[00:10] <bekks> rocko: So did you try to configure an IP manually?
[00:11] <rocko> bekks: no i do not know how to do that
[00:11] <djhash> Anyone to assist in checking possibly corrupt partition(s)? fdisk -l /dev/sda identifies partitions as HPFS/NTFS/exFAT. How can I mount them?  mounting using tntfs results in failed to mount invalid argument, ntfs signature is missing.  Backstory: Two SSDs were in a RAID0, now attached to an LSI controller with the foreign configuration imported. No important information on the drives, I just would like to see if I can get to the
[00:11] <djhash> previous data in them. Maybe end up learning something. (used to contain some scratch files, and probably window's pagefile)
[00:12] <bekks> rocko: You could try following this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html#ip-addressing
[00:14] <cyclob|work> am i able to automate permission setting for new ftp files?
[00:33] <studmuf> Anyone on here using rsync for file backup?
[00:34] <ikonia> studmuf: sometimes
[00:34] <studmuf> Or know how to compare the files of two paritions
[00:34] <imbezol> studmuf: rsync with -n would do it
[00:35] <bekks> diff would do the job, too.
[00:35] <imbezol> a whole partition?
[00:35] <ikonia> studmuf: rsync compares it on trigger
[00:35] <ikonia> imbezol: yes
[00:35] <bekks> ikonia: Depends on what you are trying to do.
[00:35] <imbezol> i was thinking that too but too messing
[00:35] <imbezol> er, messy
[00:35] <ikonia> it I use -x to not traverse mounted on different partition file systems
[00:35] <ikonia> but it depends on what I require what options I use
[00:35] <imbezol> yeah nice thing about rsync is you can specify the direction
[00:36] <imbezol> exclude files, etc
[00:36] <imbezol> diff it's yes no if they are different.. even if the newer version is on the target
[00:37] <bekks> imbezol: So what are you actually trying to achieve?
[00:37] <bekks> merging to filesets?
[00:38] <imbezol> good question, but not for me
[00:38] <mynameisdeleted> so.. thoughts on torrent based apt system.. rather than gettign packages from the web on busy servers... get them over torrent from other users who have already downloaded that particular package
[00:39] <mynameisdeleted> in exchange for some upload you can download ubuntu packages faster with apt
[00:39] <mynameisdeleted> I guess I'd have to start with a torrent mirror of ubuntu 15.04, and 14.10 and 14.04   and a sort of apt mirror which has torrent files for every package...
[00:39] <cpslcktrjn> for what gain? I've never really had an issue with speed with the hundreds and hundreds of mirrors out there
[00:40] <imbezol> me either
[00:40] <mynameisdeleted> I can get 1.1GB ubuntu iso in 30 seconds via torrent
[00:40] <imbezol> and i don't have to suffer with a poor connection because i'm torrenting all the time
[00:40] <mynameisdeleted> and in 10 mins via http
[00:40] <imbezol> but you're not downloading an iso through apt
[00:40] <ki7mt> Me either, my local mirror is very fast :-)
[00:40] <mynameisdeleted> local mirrors are a better option if you are installing on computers that share internet
[00:41] <mynameisdeleted> I always get < 1MB/s
[00:41] <mynameisdeleted> when I torrent I get 20MB/s
[00:41] <mynameisdeleted> isntead of <1
[00:41] <imbezol> perhaps time to try out some other mirrors
[00:42] <mynameisdeleted> maybe
[00:42] <mynameisdeleted> us ubuntu mirror is slow
[00:42] <mynameisdeleted> I'd like it to pick fast sources for me
[00:43] <mynameisdeleted> not have me test them all and pick whats the fastest at that moment
[00:43] <bekks> mynameisdeleted: http://askubuntu.com/questions/39922/how-do-you-select-the-fastest-mirror-from-the-command-line
[00:44] <mynameisdeleted> also if I install 100 ubuntu machines on a lan on shared cable or dsl
[00:44] <mynameisdeleted> 99% of package fetching will happen locally between machines on the lan
[00:44] <mynameisdeleted> without me setting up a mirror or performing mirror selection
[00:45] <imbezol> mynameisdeleted: set up a cacheing proxy
[00:45] <bekks> So use netselect on the apt mirror, and use an apt mirror in your lan :)
[00:45] <bekks> apt-cacher-ng :)
[00:45] <ki7mt> yeah, simply caching can work just as well
[00:45] <mynameisdeleted> I like a configurationless autodiscovering option
[00:45] <mynameisdeleted> you dont have to use it
[00:45] <bekks> mynameisdeleted: You like 100x the download bandwidth :P
[00:46] <bekks> mynameisdeleted: Using apt-cacher-ng you will have the LAN speed for already downloaded packages.
[00:46] <mynameisdeleted> I can provide install dvd or usb stick.. and there is no needs for caching proxy
[00:46] <thinkpadd> Hi, Do you know how can I enable fingerprint in thinkpad T440s? I have used these commands, but it does not find my device. any idea?
[00:46] <thinkpadd> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:fingerprint/fingerprint-gui && sudo apt-get update
[00:46] <thinkpadd> sudo apt-get install libbsapi policykit-1-fingerprint-gui fingerprint-gui
[00:46] <mynameisdeleted> any computer can be the proxy
[00:46] <rebs> thinkpadd, i have the same model
[00:46] <mynameisdeleted> and if the first proxy goes down it doesnt matter
[00:46] <rebs> i dont think there is proper support for the 440 s yes
[00:46] <rebs> yet
[00:46] <mynameisdeleted> a caching proxy server is a single point of failure for all your other workstations getting dpkg's
[00:46] <rebs> last i checked was maybe 3 months asgo
[00:47] <bekks> mynameisdeleted: you can load balance them as well.
[00:47] <imbezol> sounds like you've got it all figured
[00:47] <thinkpadd> rebs: Have you tried recently?
[00:47] <rebs> 3 months ago
[00:47] <mynameisdeleted> anyways.. just make a new apt fetchign method over http and cdrom
[00:47] <mynameisdeleted> called torrent
[00:47] <thinkpadd> rebs: http://zecheru.com/thinkpad-fingerprint-ubuntu-14-04/
[00:47] <bekks> mynameisdeleted: and a transparent caching proxy is not even noticed, so if it goes down, no one will notice it.
[00:47] <mynameisdeleted> it uses a torrent mirror and fetches the torrent for the deb and rtorrents it
[00:48] <rebs> cool
[00:48] <bekks> mynameisdeleted: Personally, I dont see a reason for torrenting debs :)
[00:48] <thinkpadd> rebs: It did not find my device although.
[00:48] <imbezol> bekks: mine has never gone down and it's nice because it caches a lot more than just apt :D
[00:48] <mynameisdeleted> it will be experiment
[00:48] <bekks> imbezol: Mine too :)
[00:48] <mynameisdeleted> if others like it maybe it gets adopted more
[00:48] <mynameisdeleted> if not.. oh well
[00:48] <mynameisdeleted> I'll use it
[00:48] <bekks> mynameisdeleted: So implement it, as an experiment :)
[00:49] <mynameisdeleted> maybe I'll even submit to ubuntu.. but either way I can host my own ppa
[00:49] <mynameisdeleted> if others like it they are free to use it
[00:49] <mynameisdeleted> and may save the ubuntu official mirrors some load
[00:50] <thinkpadd> rebs: Have u installed sth for trackpad?
[01:05] <Noah> hello?
[01:06] <k1l_> yes, hello
[01:07] <agent_white> Evenin'
[01:22] <U94> hi all How to create a bootable USB stick on Ubuntu
[01:23] <k1l_> U94: what iso is it? ubuntu isos are hybrid and you can dd them just onto the bare usb stick
[01:24] <Solexious> Is there a way to set default printer by program? Its getting boring having to switch to my dymo label printer when I use glables...
[01:24] <U94> k1l_,  yes iso I want to boot windows in usb from linux
[01:25] <Homely_Girl> Hello Collective Brains! :)
[01:25] <k1l_> U94: i dont think that is possible, you need a windows to make a windows stick, afaik
[01:26] <Homely_Girl> I'm finally using Ubuntu 14.04, but having trouble getting my HP Deskjet to print! I installed it 'n even have the blue HP Icon in my task bar, but when I print nothing happens, help please!
[01:26] <U94> k1l_,  ok then :)
[01:26] <kryptonradon> how do I use ssh-add? my old system asked me for my private key password when I logged in, I want to enable that on 14.04
[01:26] <U94> k1l_,  unet bootin cant do that?
[01:26] <k1l_> U94: i dont think so.
[01:27] <bubbasaures> Homely_Girl, Did you use the hp tool to load the drivers?
[01:28] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures, I didn't I went to setttings into printer 'n added it, it auto detected it.
[01:28] <U94> k1l_,  ok but i found this http://askubuntu.com/questions/59551/how-to-burn-a-iso-to-a-usb-device
[01:29] <bubbasaures> Homely_Girl, Not sure if the icon you see is the hp tool or the printers, if you right click do you see options?
[01:29] <k1l_> U94: then give it a try if you want.
[01:29] <U94> k1l_,  yes thats why I'm going to do right now :) thanks :)
[01:29] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures, There are settings
[01:30] <dts|pokeball> hey,,, if anyone can answer this i would be very appreciative https://askubuntu.com/questions/573904/setting-up-subdomains-for-ubuntu-server-14-04
[01:30] <bubbasaures> Homely_Girl, Do you see hp device manager if so open it.
[01:30] <Emanon`1> Hi all, I've got an issue with my computer shutting off while starting up ubuntu. I can run the bios and mem tests (no issues found) without issue but as soon as I go to load up the desktop the computer shuts down mid way. I thought it was the PSU getting overloaded because when I removed the memory to check each one individually it would start, as soon as I
[01:30] <Emanon`1> tried to run with both it would die. I also had it die while running it with one stick after a few hours of being on. Any ideas? 14.04 lts
[01:30] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures, Lemme plug printer back in 2 mins
[01:30] <bubbasaures> no prob
[01:31] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures, Done that, now what?
[01:32] <bubbasaures> Homely_Girl, Is the printer showing on the right?
[01:32] <bubbasaures> sorry left
[01:32] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures, Yes
[01:32] <gsilvapt> Good evening. I can't use my camera properly. It gets upside down either using Skype or Hangouts. I've followed some instructions I found on AskUbuntu and on the forums. It's an Asus laptop. Any suggestion to fix this?
[01:33] <bubbasaures> Homely_Girl, In the top bar are tools if you linger the cursor they tell you what they do, I would remove the printer let the HP tool add it test and if not working use the diagnose hplip driver option.
[01:34] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures, Okey dokey, back soon....
[01:34] <Emanon`1> Note that I got a new psu and ruled the psu being an issue out
[01:34] <bubbasaures> Homely_Girl, My 14.04 setup was actually missing some packages and this fixed it.
[01:35] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures, ok
[01:37] <jrm> Hi.  I just intsalled Ubuntu for the first time.  It's in a VM (bhyve with FreeBSD as the host) and I would like to expand the image allocated to the VM following the instructions at the very bottom of this page: https://www.monkeybrains.net/support/bhyve.  I can get up the part (delete 2 and 5), but after that I'm a little lost.  Can anyone point me in the right direction.  Here is the partition table: http://slexy.org/view/s25uLEO49c.
[01:39] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures, It's installing missing packages, well done you, let's hope this works!
[01:39] <bubbasaures> Homely_Girl, Mine was working, but I came across this tool on the channel, from a great helper, and just ran it.
[01:40] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures, Knowledge is power! :D
[01:40] <bubbasaures> working but needed debugging for sure
[01:40] <yukino> I know that I have my wifi drivers installed, but its saying that it is hardware disabled. My "fn" fuction button that I use to disable/enable the wifi switch, doesn't seem to be working
[01:41] <yukino> What would be a good solution?
[01:41] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures,  How do I know when it's done?? :P It's alternating between / | and \
[01:41] <bubbasaures> Homely_Girl, THe terminal will tell you it's just running
[01:42] <bubbasaures> doing the voodoo that it be doing. ;)
[01:44] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures, I'm just so chuffed to have got myself a Lenovo Thinkpad 'cos Ubuntu flies on it!! :D
[01:44] <yukino> I know that I have my wifi drivers installed, but its saying that it is hardware disabled. My "fn" fuction button that I use to disable/enable the wifi switch, doesn't seem to be working
[01:44] <yukino> What would be a good solution?
[01:44] <bubbasaures> !details | yukino
[01:45] <bubbasaures> yukino, Channel needs the wifi hardware your dealing with at the least
[01:46] <yukino> yea, woops, sorry about that: Intel PRO/WIreless 3945ABG
[01:46] <bubbasaures> ;)
[01:46] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures, It's failing to communicate with my printer :( I just turned it off 'n on again 'n no....
[01:47] <yukino> This is for the m400 portege toshiba tablet
[01:47] <luzx> hello
[01:47] <hydrajump> why can't I change theme from command line like this `gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface gtk-theme 'Radiance'`
[01:47] <hydrajump> nothing happens
[01:47] <bubbasaures> Homely_Girl, The HP tools added the printer for you, as I suggested?
[01:47] <Homely_Girl> Yes
[01:48] <kryptonradon> how do I get ssh-add to ask for my password when I log in?
[01:48] <bubbasaures> Homely_Girl, Not seen a no communication in this app, what do you see?
[01:49] <bubbasaures> Homely_Girl, Are you using a usb hub perchance?
[01:50] <Homely_Girl> bubba, no hub, one cable from prn to laptop!
[01:50] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures, Only a direct usb cable from prn to laptop
[01:51] <bubbasaures> Homely_Girl, So how do you know the communication is faulty, time and a guess or in the terminal, or other way?
[01:52] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures, When I ran the diagnose drivers thingy it goes thru installing missing stuff 'n then red writing comes up saying prn either off or other problem 'n cannot find it.
[01:53] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures, I'm trying a different usb socket....standby!
[01:54] <bubbasaures> Homely_Girl, Hmm, the tool can be closed right click quit, I would do that and the printer again just for a test. Standing by otherwise.
[01:55] <ki7mt> well, you may want to check and see if the user is in both dialout and lp groups
[01:55] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures, now it said I have no printer configured??
[01:55] <bubbasaures> Homely_Girl, After?
[01:56] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures, No, I was in the middle of rediagnosing the driver when u told me to quit.....so you want me to quit the hp thingy 'n do what to my printer? :)
[01:57] <samthewildone> I'm having a problem here.
[01:57] <bubbasaures> Homely_Girl, I would restart both off than on.
[01:57] <samthewildone> Its taking me about 10 minutes to connect to freenode now ?
[01:57] <samthewildone> this started happening about 2-3 hrs ago...
[01:57] <bubbasaures> samthewildone, Rest of the net?
[01:57] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures,  I'll shut it all down 'n then printter on first 'n then laptop?
[01:57] <ki7mt> Feed the squirrels more more acorns, they go faster then :-)
[01:57] <samthewildone> also when trying to update, it takes forever.
[01:58] <samthewildone> bubbasaures, I checked my net speed and it is fine.
[01:58] <bubbasaures> Homely_Girl, No real first or second we are just trying to knock out variables.
[01:58] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures, I'll be back!
[01:58] <bubbasaures> samthewildone, My guess servers are slow no problem here, just a guess.
[01:59] <samthewildone> !offtopic
[01:59] <samthewildone> I need to write down that channel
[01:59] <samthewildone> always forget...
[01:59] <samthewildone> bubbasaures, strange... I know it happened around a couple of hours ago but, don't know why.
[02:00] <samthewildone> bubbasaures, I thought my IP was banned.
[02:00] <bubbasaures> samthewildone, I can omly guess on this......so. ;)
[02:00] <bubbasaures> only*
[02:01] <mynameisdeleted> haha.. my local umd mirror is much faster than us.archive.ubuntu.com
[02:01] <mynameisdeleted> still not 20MB/s
[02:01] <mynameisdeleted> but 3MB/s is better than 0.3MB/s
[02:02] <bubbasaures> mynameisdeleted, awesome however off topic.
[02:02] <mynameisdeleted> I'm still making my torrent apt-method
[02:02] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures, I'm baaaack!
[02:03] <bubbasaures> Homely_Girl, Sure, you reboot or something?
[02:03] <bubbasaures> none of my business really, ;)
[02:03] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures, It's a Thinkpad, it's FAST!!!
[02:04] <Noah> nice
[02:04] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures, Should I go thru diagnose again?
[02:04] <Kouen> hello
[02:04] <Kouen> is there a way to overwrite Android OS and put Ubuntu for phones
[02:05] <bubbasaures> Homely_Girl, Not sure what did you do since we last talked?
[02:05] <axel_> hi
[02:05] <bazhang> !touch | Kouen
[02:06] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures, I turned laptop off 'n printer off 'n switched on prn then laptop
[02:06] <Kouen> Thanks sorry for my mistake
[02:06] <axel_> hi homely girl
[02:06] <Kouen> salutations ;)
[02:06] <Homely_Girl> axel_, Hi there
[02:06] <axel_> how are you?
[02:07] <bubbasaures> Homely_Girl, sure, this is beyonde me I think however, could be as simple as a shorting cord.
[02:07] <axel_> homely_girl
[02:07] <Homely_Girl> axel: Frustrated as I can't get my printer working!!
[02:07] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures, A good point, will see if I can dig up another usb cable!
[02:08] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures, HPLIP device status says communication error!
[02:09] <bubbasaures> Homely_Girl, You need better help than me, I don;t know how to look at this in the terminal, mine have always just worked.
[02:09] <axel_> homely: can i help you?
[02:10] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures,  I know as Linux systems analyst who lives fairly locally, will invite him for coffee 'n tell him to bring a usb cable! lol
[02:10] <bubbasaures> Homely_Girl, sounds like a plan.
[02:10] <bubbasaures> ;)
[02:11] <nodeman> After a long session i finally got my system to boot manually through initramfs, my /boot is full and corrupted. I have raid5 full disk encryption and lvm, can i just reinstall grub like in this post? or do i need to configure something as well? :http://superuser.com/questions/614257/how-do-i-recreate-a-wiped-boot-filesystem-in-ubuntu
[02:11] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures, Was so hoping to sort it myself! lol
[02:12] <Homely_Girl> axel_, I've instaled my printer, but am getting communication error! :(
[02:12] <yax51> hello!!
[02:13] <yax51> I seem to be having issues with my ubuntu, and was wondering if anyone could help?
[02:13] <yax51> I am running 14.04 32bit. and just installed the updates
[02:14] <yax51> now, it has no network and no mouse
[02:14] <yax51> using an ethernet cord and usb mouse
[02:15] <bubbasaures> yax51, SWe have ahad kernel upgrades, how you tried an earlier kernel set?
[02:15] <Homely_Girl> axel: if you live in Wales, and have a spare usb cable, I'll make the coffee!!
[02:15] <yax51> bubbasaures: not sure how to do that without network, or a mouse
[02:16] <Psil0Cybin> Hey everyone long time :)
[02:16] <bubbasaures> yax51, At grub
[02:16] <yax51> bubbasaures: I'll check it out
[02:16] <Psil0Cybin>  Hey guys quick question i am trying to install wireshark on ubuntu, using apt-get install wireshark, now I have it installed and it wont find my devices unless I run it as root (obviously not recommended) I typed in dpkg-reconfigure wireshark-common and it says that allowing nonroot users to run wireshark/being allowed to capture packets, could be a security risk....why is this?
[02:16] <bubbasaures> yax51, If you are not seeing grub tap the shift key as you power on.
[02:17] <Psil0Cybin> If I am following the guide should I ignore that error message? It seems like I am damned if i do, damned if i dont.
[02:19] <yax51> bubbasaures:" Ok, I am showing grub, with ubuntu, and advanced options, and mem tests
[02:19] <yax51> bubbasaures: I found it, :P
[02:20] <yax51> bubbasaures: Ok now I have my mouse back, but still not detecting network via ethernet cable
[02:21] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures, Thanks for your help, hopefully it is just a dodgy cable!!
[02:21] <bubbasaures> no prob
[02:22] <Homely_Girl> axel_, Thanks for offering to help, but I'm gonna try what bubbasaures suggested.
[02:22] <pksadiq> Psil0Cybin: A quick search gives me http://wiki.wireshark.org/Security
[02:22] <Homely_Girl> Good by my favourite Brains!! :)
[02:23] <bubbasaures> yax51, Just a test on the kernel, others will be better overall for really good help.
[02:23] <yax51> WOOT!!! ok got it back up!
[02:24] <selsper> n1
[02:24] <Psil0Cybin> pksadiq: That wiki states that root access is not required, but my devices cannot be found without root access. It also states....Debian, Ubuntu and other Debian derivatives
[02:24] <Psil0Cybin> By installing Wireshark packages non-root users won't gain rights automatically to capture packets. To allow non-root users to capture packets follow the procedure described in /usr/share/doc/wireshark-common/README.Debian
[02:24] <yax51> bubbsaures: thanks for your help. Now is there a way to remove the update kernals from grub, so I don't need to do that each time I boot it up?
[02:24] <pksadiq> Psil0Cybin: dpkg-reconfigure wireshark-common ?
[02:24] <Psil0Cybin> yea pksadiq that is the command I ran...
[02:24] <Psil0Cybin> in order to add my self to the user-group
[02:25] <michael_j_p> hello fellow linux users
[02:25] <bubbasaures> hello bi-ped
[02:25] <Psil0Cybin> pksadiq: after that command I was going to run sudo usermod -a -G wireshark $USER
[02:25] <bubbasaures> I assume, ;)
[02:26] <Psil0Cybin> and it said it should work but that first command, gave me awarning saying its not secure to add my self to the wireshark group or give the group access rights to root , etc
[02:26] <Psil0Cybin> so I am jut confused...
[02:27] <Psil0Cybin> pksadiq: sorry for bothering you but maybe you can explain this to me, what would be the proper procedure..in order to see my devices....all guides I am reading on the wiki state I need to give the wireshark root access/add my self to the group, instead of just simply doing sudo wireshark
[02:28] <pksadiq> Psil0Cybin: Did you try this for setup: http://wiki.wireshark.org/CaptureSetup/CapturePrivileges ?
[02:29] <mijk> hey, I'm trying to set up high reso console in Ubuntu Server
[02:29] <mijk> I can't seem to get i tgoing
[02:29] <Psil0Cybin> Well I saw that page, pksadiq but i scrolled down to the Ubuntu section, where it states to view the readme, that says to add my self to the wireshark group....
[02:29] <Psil0Cybin> Debian, Ubuntu and other Debian derivatives
[02:29] <Psil0Cybin> By installing Wireshark packages non-root users won't gain rights automatically to capture packets. To allow non-root users to capture packets follow the procedure described in /usr/share/doc/wireshark-common/README.Debian
[02:30] <militantpotato> Hey, I have a dual monitor setup, with a TV connected via an HDMI cable, and my monitor through DVI.  I'm having an issue with GRUB where it only displays on the Television, which is annoying because it is either off, or being used for something else.  What do I add/change in the grub config to force it to show on my primary display (monitor).  I'm using Kubuntu 14.04
[02:30] <Psil0Cybin> but the README, just gives theory but not any commands to execute...I understand in practise what it is stating but i want to double check to make sure I do not do more damage, than good.
[02:31] <pksadiq> Psil0Cybin: it says dpkg-reconfigure wireshark-common, I think.
[02:31] <Psil0Cybin> yea that is what I did one second I will copy the exact error message.
[02:31] <Psil0Cybin> pksadiq: it says "│ Dumpcap can be installed in a way that allows members of the "wireshark" system group to capture packets. This is      │
[02:31] <Psil0Cybin>  │ recommended over the alternative of running Wireshark/Tshark directly as root, because less of the code will run with  │
[02:31] <Psil0Cybin>  │ elevated privileges.                                                                                │
[02:31] <Psil0Cybin>  │                                                                                │
[02:31] <Psil0Cybin>  │ For more detailed information please see /usr/share/doc/wireshark-common/README.Debian.                                │
[02:31] <Psil0Cybin>  │                                                                                │
[02:32] <Ben64> Psil0Cybin: don't do that. are you in the wireshark group? find out by typing "groups"
[02:32] <yax51> Thanks for all your help guys :)
[02:33] <Psil0Cybin> Ben64: groups does not even list wireshark yet :P
[02:33] <Ben64> Psil0Cybin: then do that
[02:33] <Psil0Cybin> would it be done with $ sudo usermod -a -G wireshark $USER ??
[02:33] <pksadiq> Ben64: He just needs to know whether there is any security issue adding him to wireshark group...
[02:34] <Ben64> Psil0Cybin: yep
[02:35] <Psil0Cybin> it says group wireshark does not exist, sorry what would be the proper command to create the group :)
[02:35] <Ben64> you need to do the reconfigure stuff to create it
[02:36] <k1l_> group needs a relogin? or even a reboot?
[02:36] <Psil0Cybin> Ben64 when I run the dpkg command, I get this
[02:36] <Psil0Cybin> http://pastebin.com/veK5tuq5
[02:36] <trism> Psil0Cybin: on that screen you saw with dpkg-reconfigure, it wasn't an error, you select yes or no with tab and hit enter, yes should create the wireshark group
[02:36] <Psil0Cybin> trism: but is that secure, I am aware it is not an error but more of awarning
[02:36] <Psil0Cybin> is it safe to hit yes, and add my self/create the group?
[02:37] <Ben64> if you want to capture packets without sudo, yes
[02:37] <Psil0Cybin> okay but why would it give me that warning saying it was not advised?
[02:37] <Psil0Cybin> Why does it say "Enabling this feature may be a security risk, so it is disabled by default. If in doubt, it is suggested to leave it disabled"
[02:37] <k1l_> Psil0Cybin: because wireshark is a security risk at all
[02:37] <Psil0Cybin> That line just got me worried...
[02:37] <Ben64> it doesn't say that, it says if you don't know what this does, don't do it
[02:38] <pksadiq> Psil0Cybin: re-read : ...recommended over the alternative of running Wireshark/Tshark directly as root,...
[02:38] <Psil0Cybin> okay pksadiq thanks guys just wanted to double check..what you guys thought
[02:38] <Psil0Cybin> before i hit yes...
[02:38] <Psil0Cybin> would the only security risk , but if someone has access to my machine they can capture my packets?
[02:38] <Psil0Cybin> or has ssh access to my machine?
[02:38] <Psil0Cybin> is that the only security risk ?
[02:39] <Psil0Cybin> be if ... *
[02:39] <happyfr0gg> Hello. Where does KDE store the splash theme files?
[02:39] <k1l_> Psil0Cybin: really. if you need wireshark not just to break into your neighbours wifi, then you want to read into the documents and get a clue what you do there at all.
[02:39] <Psil0Cybin> k1l_: I am getting it installed for school, we have a whole unit on it after I finish my Cisco course....
[02:40] <k1l_> Psil0Cybin: you actually allow all programs to wireshark your wifi now.
[02:40] <Psil0Cybin> I want it to be installed on my computer without installing windows...
[02:40] <Psil0Cybin> my class recommends using windows....I want to stick to ubuntu/debian and have wireshark
[02:40] <Psil0Cybin> i just want to make sure i have it installed in a secure manner.
[02:41] <k1l_> there is no secure manner. the program is to break secure manners.
[02:41] <Psil0Cybin> k1l_: so, all together, any method i do (adding my self to wireshark group) etc, its all a bad idea for the reason you stated??
[02:41] <k1l_> you just choose in which foot you will be shot. not if at all.
[02:41] <Psil0Cybin> LOL good statement...slash analogy
[02:42] <Psil0Cybin> so I guess ill just add my self to group and hope for the best...but now I will keep that in mind, all programs could potentially wireshark me....hmm
[02:42] <pksadiq> Psil0Cybin: Anyway, its much secure than using wireshark and windows. :-)
[02:42] <Psil0Cybin> is there a waay to perhaps add my self to group and remove my self from group after use?
[02:42] <Psil0Cybin> lool?
[02:43] <pksadiq> Psil0Cybin: If you stick on to the packages via official repo (only), you don't need to be much scared of the system to spy on you.
[02:43] <Psil0Cybin> yea I got it all from the offical repos...
[02:44] <Psil0Cybin> just I never thought once the program is installed, other programs could use it against me lets say if they where coded too....but i guess it makes sense because by adding my self to group, my user can run wireshark thus allowing any program too...that is correct right?
[02:44] <Psil0Cybin> Just want to resay all the information provided so i make sure i got it.
[02:47] <guzzlefry> Does Ubuntu's installer create raids?
[02:47] <compdoc> the server version might
[02:47] <nodeman> guzzlefry: Server version does
[02:47] <bubbasaures> !raid
[02:47] <guzzlefry> oh good
[02:50] <Psil0Cybin> pksadiq: so if i understand sorry in very basic form, any method of adding my self to group allows other programs access to capture packets? correct? k1l_
[02:53] <dupingping> Hi
[02:53] <jackie> hi
[02:54] <dupingping> Qt4.8.6 have an error.
[02:54] <dupingping> It's wrong in font rendering.
[02:54] <dupingping> Bandal font could not be shown as Bold in over 48 pt.
[02:55] <dupingping> How can i solve this problem?
[02:55] <pksadiq> Psil0Cybin: If you need to be that much secure, 1. Add a new user and add that user to wireshark group, and use that user only when you need to capture. 2. Use more secure Distro like Debian GNU/Linux. 3. Disable services like ssh. As you said, you are learning, its not wrong to make mistakes. :-)
[02:56] <Ben64> pksadiq: probably shouldn't suggest other distros in #ubuntu ... and debian isn't "more secure"
[02:57] <vince_> HI, My name is Vincent. I need help to configue my touchpad
[02:58] <pksadiq> Ben64: Sorry, Ubuntu frequently updates packages like firefox, where there could be unknown issues, but debian after freeze, it won't modify. That's why I recommended that.
[03:15] <vetulus> #opcharlie
[03:23] <Psil0Cybin> pksadiq: I am really using Debian, at the moment I came here because Debian/Ubuntu is very similar..and i love the people here, SSH is disabled...but thank you that is what i will do!
[03:24] <Psil0Cybin> i will create a new user! :D Thank you pksadiq and everyone, but last question so i create the new user, and then su into that user and then run the dpkg-reconfigure command correct?
[03:25] <bubbasaures> Psil0Cybin, debian has a channel use it
[03:26] <Psil0Cybin> :P
[03:26] <Psil0Cybin> bubbasaures:
[03:26] <damig> Hi all
[03:26] <bubbasaures> we really just love being lied to
[03:27] <Psil0Cybin> I am not lying to anyone, Ubuntu/Debian same thing really .. no?
[03:28] <Ben64> Psil0Cybin: no!
[03:28] <Psil0Cybin> fine..then i apologize...
[03:28] <Ben64> thats why there are different channels and different names and different websites
[03:28] <Ben64> i see you come in here a lot, don't do so for debain any more
[03:28] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[03:29] <Psil0Cybin> well i run both Xubuntu and Debian, so I do come here mostly for Ubuntu help
[03:29] <Psil0Cybin> hence why I was quick to ask the question here...i appologize.
[03:30] <damig> I would like to have your advice choosing a new laptop ... I plan to install ubuntu so the linux support is very important for this choice
[03:31] <damig> so I hesitate between an Asus BU401 and an Lenovo Thinkpad T440
[03:33] <damig> There are more laptops certified by Lenovo than by Asus on ubuntu.com
[03:34] <damig> Is that because of hardware compatibility or users prefer Lenovo than Asus ?
[03:36] <damig> With similar devices would you choose Asus or Lenovo ? I would like to have advices based on your linux experience
[03:42] <fermulator> I have backups (Deja-dup) configured in Ubuntu 12.04. Then upgraded to 14.04, and since then all the backups are failing. In the UI, the "Back Up Now..." button in the overivew is greyed out. Does anyone know what's going on here? (some reading hints that the upgrade causes the remote directory to not know the upgraded system?)
[03:51] <derek01> Hey guys,  I had a update to 12.04 from 10.04 fail half way through installing. Gui isn't coming up, although I can hear the sound of the login screen coming up.
[03:54] <derek01> Trying to get WiFi working via command line so I can update, having no luck
[03:58] <OerHeks> derek01, hold shift @boot and use an older kernel, and start the upgrade again?
[03:59] <bubbasaures> derek01, Any screens, things get hidden behind?
[04:00] <bubbasaures> doh login?, my mistake
[04:00] <happyfr0gg> If I create a Windows 7 virtual machine (appliance) using VirtualBox, will I need to purchase a Windows 7 license key?
[04:00] <bubbasaures> happyfr0gg, ##windows
[04:00] <OerHeks> desktop 10.04 support ended some months ago
[04:01] <xangua> like 48 months ago, yes
[04:01] <happyfr0gg> bubbasaures - thanks.
[04:02]  * OerHeks counts to 20
[04:02] <xangua> OerHeks: ooh sorry, 44 months :P
[04:02] <derek01> Oerheks: oldest kernel boots to a failsafe gfx mode, and has no keyboard support. Switching to a any other console brings up nothing
[04:03] <derek01> Under a regular boot I can access a console, but it's being picky about a WiFi connection
[04:03] <OerHeks> derek01, i suggest backup your data and do a fresh 14.04 install
[04:05] <derek01> OerHeks: can't really so that without being able to first download a new release. Which I can't, because I can't get a connection to my router
[04:05] <derek01> Sorry, 12.04 not 10.04
[04:06] <bubbasaures> derek01, 12.04 to 14.04?
[04:09] <derek01> Bubbasaures yes
[04:10] <bubbasaures> derek01, I would agree with the backup and install, however is it backed up now?
[04:10] <derek01> Data isn't an issue. Having an Internet connection to be able to get a new release is.
[04:11] <bubbasaures> derek01, This no nite etho or wifi?
[04:11] <bubbasaures> net*
[04:11] <derek01> Wifi
[04:11] <bubbasaures> derek01, can you try etho?
[04:12] <derek01> Bubba: Not available
[04:12] <bubbasaures> derek01, Cool, well that's all here from me you've painted your self into a corner. ;)
[04:13] <OerHeks> use the machine you are typing on now.
[04:13] <derek01> Cell phone
[04:15] <derek01> Been trying to understand nmcli,  with no luck. I can get it to see the connection, but not tell it to connect to it
[04:17] <derek01> Same with iwconfig, got it to connect and no errors with dhclient eth1, but still no internet
[04:24] <OerHeks> derek01, i think this way:  nmcli c up id <SSID> iface wlan0 # or wlan1 depends on your situation
[04:25] <derek01> Oerheks: unknown connection : ssidhere
[04:26] <hendrich> Before I seriously consider purging Ubuntu from my PC like the Illumenati uses Ebola as a eugenics experiment to remove Africa, I need a kind stranger's help.
[04:26] <hendrich> Where do I go for Driver issues?
[04:26] <OerHeks> hendrich, nice way to ask for help ... not
[04:27] <bubbasaures> one free ignore
[04:27] <OerHeks> derek01, then i am out of ideas, your upgrade wrecked too much i am afraid
[04:28] <derek01> Oerheks: gah. I was afraid I might hear that. Well thanks for the help guys
[04:28] <hendrich> I'm sure Africa will be fine, but I'd really appreciate it if there is somone can mention a suppourt forum or something.
[04:30] <somsip> !ask | hendrich
[04:32] <hendrich> ubottu: Sorry, what?
[04:32] <hendrich> ubottu: What.
[04:33] <hendrich> Holy crap, you really are a bot.
[04:33] <hendrich> What kind of hell did I stumble into
[04:33] <somsip> hendrich: you ask here for driver issues. You just need to give us more details than you have
[04:35] <hendrich> somsip: To be fair I'm just asking for a link to a support forum, but I don't suppose you have an AMD card, do you?
[04:36] <somsip> hendrich: lots of AMD info here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD
[04:39] <derek01> Oerhek: got it! Found an ethernet cable, auto cleaned old packages, release upgrade and boom! On my way
[04:39] <OerHeks> derek01, great, have fun!
[04:39] <derek01> Thanks again.
[04:40] <hell_> how to add repository?
[04:40] <visiot> how can i enable eMMC on my board , the Memory Card  Interafce is initialized already but i'm not able to see mmcblk in kernel log messages
[04:40] <xangua> hell_: what repository?
[04:40] <OerHeks> hell_, sudo apt-get install add-apt-repository && sudo add-apt-repository <repo>
[04:40] <hell_> to get update from that site...!!
[04:41] <hell_> for skype?
[04:41] <somsip> hell_: http://www.howopensource.com/2012/10/to-install-skype-4-0-0-8-in-ubuntu-12-10-12-04-using-ppa/
[04:41] <OerHeks> hell_, for skype, enable 3th party repo in softwarecenter, skype is in it.
[04:41] <xangua> hell_: what site¿ you just need to enable partner in software centre
[04:42] <hell_> where can i find the software center in backbox ?
[04:43] <xangua> !partner | hell_
[04:44] <somsip> !derivatives | hell_ (backbox is not supported AFAIK)
[04:44] <hendrich> Ubuntu is out of control and there are no brakes, had to restart
[04:45] <hendrich> So is there still anybody who can point me to a support forum?
[04:45] <somsip> hell_: gave you a link already
[04:45] <somsip> hendrich: gave you a link already
[04:45] <hell_> yea ..k
[04:45] <hendrich> somsip: Like I just mentioned, I crashed so I'd appreciate it if you can link me again
[04:45] <somsip> hendrich: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD
[04:46] <hendrich> kthx somsip, you're kool with a k
[04:47] <hell_> can i format my external harddrive which has been corrupted  ?
[04:47] <hendrich> hell_: Yeah, on Ubuntu atleast
[04:47] <hell_> in backbox and how?
[04:48] <hell_> hendrich: backbox is build on ubuntu as the base...
[04:48] <somsip> hell_: and it's not supported here
[04:49] <hendrich> hell_: Don't use backbox, on Ubuntu I installed Getparted and it worked wonders.
[04:49] <hendrich> *I didn't use backbox
[04:49] <OerHeks> hell_, that info should be here http://blackboxwm.sourceforge.net/BlackboxDocumentation
[04:49] <hell_> how to do it in ubuntu?
[04:49] <hendrich> Do you have the Ubuntu App Store aka Software Centre?
[04:50] <hell_> yup
[04:50] <hendrich> Search "getparted" in it
[04:50] <hendrich> Then use it to look for your curroupt drive
[04:50] <hendrich> And format with whatever architecture
[04:50] <crazyhorse> hey.. what's the fastest way to get hashes of everyfile on a hdd?
[04:50] <crazyhorse> also will splitting it between cores make a difference, or will it all be IO bound?
[04:50] <hell_> ok....will i able to recover my files?
[04:50] <somsip> !info md5deep | crazyhorse
[04:51] <hendrich> hell: gparted, thats the name
[04:51] <hendrich> hell_: I can't answer that because I'm a linux nub, I don't think gparted does that.
[04:51] <jzp113> hi someone use the pycurl?
[04:52] <somsip> jzp113: people in #python
[04:52] <crazyhorse> somsip: looks interesting
[04:52] <somsip> crazyhorse: if not, http://askubuntu.com/questions/318530/generate-md5-checksum-for-all-files-in-a-directory
[04:52] <hell_> is there anyother way to do it?
[04:52] <jzp113> ok fine
[04:52] <hendrich> So is there an actual way to copy/paste stuff from the desktop to the Ubuntu terminal?
[04:53] <somsip> hendrich: highlight, then middle click in terminal
[04:53] <EriC^^> hendrich: copy and paste what?
[04:53] <cyclob|work> right mouse click in the terminal
[04:53] <hendrich> Neither works
[04:53] <EriC^^> hendrich: are you using xterm?
[04:55] <wad> So I plugged my trusty old USB scanner into my laptop, and I can see it with lsusb. Simple Scan sees it just fine. But when I click "scan", it says "failed, unable to start scan"
[04:55] <wad> Any ideas on how to resolve this issue?
[04:55] <hendrich> Eric^^: I apologize but I think you might as well of asked me where the gnomes keeps their purple rainbow dinosaurs
[04:55] <hendrich> Can you explain it like I'm autistic?
[04:57] <wad> "scanimage -L" doesn't show it. Hmm.
[04:58] <hendrich> wad: It sounds stupid but did you try plugging it out and back in?  Is that the terminal?
[05:10] <hendrich> Is Flux in a box?
[05:10] <hendrich> You're saying things to me and it does not compute
[05:11] <EriC^^> hell_: try sudo blkid maybe
[05:11] <EriC^^> hell_: also try to unplug the hdd then plug it back in
[05:12] <hell_> still the same
[05:12] <EriC^^> hell_: type dmesg | tail after plugging it in, maybe it shows something
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[05:13] <Datz|away> Hi, samba server for some reason, is resetting users password after some length of time. I have to reset it every day. Anyone have any ideas about why, or how to fix this?
[05:14] <hell_> no chanegs
[05:14] <hell_> no changes
[05:16] <hell_> ?
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> Datz: maybe the #samba guys might know?
[05:18] <Datz> lotuspsychje: good idea, thanks
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> !samba | Datz doublecheck config here maybe
[05:19] <Datz> Thanks, taking a look
[05:20] <hendrich> Who uses an AMD card here?
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> hendrich: best is to ask your question mate
[05:22] <hendrich> lotuspsychje: I don't understand.
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> hendrich: ask your specific problem here in chat
[05:22] <OerHeks> hendrich, what ati card?
[05:22] <hendrich> Oerheks: HD6770
[05:23] <hendrich> Is it normal for Ubuntu to shit bricks when you switch from Proprietary drivers to Open Source ones?
[05:23] <hendrich> Because now I can't switch back thru Additional Drivers
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> hendrich: ubuntu version?
[05:24] <hendrich> 14.10
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> hendrich: did you try 14.04?
[05:24] <hendrich> lotuspsychje: Do I have to reinstall to do that?
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> hendrich: yes, but its recommended to install fresh
[05:25] <hendrich> sheeeeet
[05:25] <hendrich> Goddamn you AMD
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> hendrich: lets stay polite
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> hendrich: you can try recoverymode from failsafeX (grub)
[05:26] <hendrich> lotuspsychje: No. I refuse. AMD deserves to be smited upon mercilessly.
[05:26] <hendrich> Also I have no idea what you just asked of me.
[05:26] <hendrich> What is a grub
[05:26] <hendrich> What is failsafeX
[05:26] <hendrich> What is recoverymode
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> hendrich: you can hold shift at boot, to enter grub and try to recover system
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | hendrich
[05:27] <hendrich> So if I recover system, I can restore it before everything got fucked up?
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> hendrich: plz keep your language familly friendly
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> hendrich: that could help yes
[05:27] <hendrich> lotuspsychje: I can still insult AMD right?
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> no
[05:27] <arjun_k> Bus error (core dumped) when trying to open nautilus
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> hendrich: because you dont know of its amd's fault
[05:28] <arjun_k> how can i resolve that]
[05:28] <arjun_k> ???????
[05:28] <migo65> hello, new to irc
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> arjun_k: can you try gksudo nautilus from terminal plz?
[05:28] <arjun_k> k
[05:29] <migo65> i would like to download movies
[05:29] <hendrich> lotuspsychje: I'll try it
[05:29] <hendrich> migo65: hahahahaha
[05:29] <CtrlAltDelicious> sup everyone?
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> !warez | migo65
[05:29] <hendrich> Sup bro
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> CtrlAltDelicious: good morning mate
[05:29] <OerHeks> hi migo65, download movies? from where?
[05:29] <hendrich> ubottu: Shutup nerd.
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> hendrich: stop shouting
[05:29] <hendrich> migo65: I assume you wish to download LEGAL movies, RIGHT?
[05:30] <migo65> yes
[05:30] <hendrich> See, its all good.
[05:30] <hendrich> migo65: Which Ubuntu do you have?
[05:30] <tralff> I'm trying to make this alias work and curious if anyone can help
[05:30] <tralff> alias mkHosts='sudo sh -c "cat /etc/hosts.tmpl | sed \"s/THE_IP/$1/g\" > /etc/hosts"'
[05:30] <hendrich> migo65: The one from the website?
[05:30] <migo65> mint
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> !mint | migo65
[05:31] <OerHeks> migo65, mint is not supported here
[05:31] <arjun_k> (gksudo:5488): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0
[05:31] <hendrich> migo65: Does Mint have a search bar?
[05:31] <migo65> yes
[05:31] <arjun_k> when trying gksudo nautilus from terminal
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> arjun_k: hmm that doesnt sound good
[05:31] <arjun_k> yes
[05:31] <hendrich> migo65: See if Mint already has a torrent client in it
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> arjun_k: could you try makeing a new user and start nautilus?
[05:31] <arjun_k> so what we can do now?
[05:31] <OerHeks> arjun_k, hat is just a message, nautilus works right?
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> hendrich: plz no supporting for mint
[05:31] <migo65> tranmission
[05:31] <CtrlAltDelicious> ubottu: How do magnets work?
[05:31] <bubbasaures> arjun_k, What is your goal?
[05:31] <arjun_k> no
[05:32] <arjun_k> i cant open folders in that user
[05:32] <CtrlAltDelicious> lotuspsychje: How do magnets work?
[05:32] <arjun_k> error comes and closes
[05:32] <hendrich> lotuspsychje: Is there a reason why? I'm not questioning your authority I'm legitimately asking if there is a rule.
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> hendrich: ubuntu support only here are the rules
[05:33] <OerHeks> hendrich, mint has its own issues
 i cant open folders in that user error comes and closes
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> CtrlAltDelicious: torrent magnets?
 it is working in other users
[05:33] <CtrlAltDelicious> lotuspsychje: What about them?
[05:33] <CtrlAltDelicious> Sure..
 i cant open folders in that user error comes and closes
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> CtrlAltDelicious: thats not really a question for ubuntu support
[05:34] <bubbasaures> arjun_k, Bad technique is all, and not a clear at all explanation.
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> CtrlAltDelicious: you can checkout torrent software..
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> !torrent | CtrlAltDelicious
 sorry  i didnt get u
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> CtrlAltDelicious: you can add a magnet link to your torrent client in ubuntu
[05:35] <CtrlAltDelicious> lotuspsychje: Thx
[05:35] <bubbasaures> arjun_k, Honestly if you do not understand you should not be doing it.
[05:35] <CtrlAltDelicious> bubbasaures: Understand what?
 what we can do now?
  what we can do now?
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> arjun_k: wich ubuntu version is this?
 12.04
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> arjun_k: are you logged in as the root user?
[05:37] <arjun_k> no
 no
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> arjun_k: from wich to wich are you trying?
[05:37] <CtrlAltDelicious> arjun_k: Whats your issue?
 in normal user i was trying to open  a folder. but error comes
[05:38] <CtrlAltDelicious> what folder arjun_k ?
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> arjun_k: how did you add the user, with useraccounts icon?
[05:38] <hendrich> So is there a way to copy paste stuff into blackbox?
 i cant open folders in ubuntu 12.04. error comes (Bus error)
[05:38] <CtrlAltDelicious> arjun_k: any folder?
 yes. it was working fine till few days back
 yes
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> arjun_k: updated recently?
[05:39] <CtrlAltDelicious> arjun_k: Can you open terminal?
[05:39] <arjun_k> lotuspsychje> no. after opening a particular file
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> arjun_k: wich file?
 yes
 a css file
[05:39] <CtrlAltDelicious> arjun_k: open terminal, do  cd ~/
[05:40] <CtrlAltDelicious> then ls -la
[05:40] <CtrlAltDelicious> post the results
k. then?
 k
[05:40] <EriC^^> hendrich: hey man so are you in a tty right now? ( ctrl+alt+f1 ) ?
[05:40] <hendrich> EriC^^: Yep.
[05:41] <EriC^^> hendrich: ok, how'd you install the open source driver? from the additional drivers?
[05:41] <hendrich> EriC^^: Yep.
[05:42] <EriC^^> hendrich: ok, type dpkg -l | grep fglrx for me
[05:42] <hendrich> Then I rebooted and suddenly Additional Drivers told me I had "manual drivers" installed and everythign else was blanked out
[05:42] <EriC^^> i see
[05:42] <arjun_k> total 46412
[05:42] <arjun_k> drwxr-xr-x 33 implemer implemer     4096 Jan 15 09:52 .
[05:42] <arjun_k> drwxr-xr-x  4 root     root         4096 Aug 22 09:49 ..
[05:42] <arjun_k> drwx------  2 implemer implemer     4096 Aug 20 20:06 32bitNb74withJDK
[05:42] <arjun_k> -rw-------  1 implemer implemer     2478 Dec 16 13:53 .bash_history
[05:42] <arjun_k> -rw-r--r--  1 implemer implemer      220 Aug 20 19:19 .bash_logout
[05:42] <EriC^^> hendrich: which amd card do you have again?
[05:43] <hendrich> EriC^^: Please tell me your secrets of how I can paste that into terminal?
[05:43] <hendrich> EriC^^: HD6670
[05:43] <hendrich> Or 6770
[05:43] <EriC^^> hendrich: you can't you'll have to type it out
[05:43] <hendrich> nooooooooo
[05:43] <EriC^^> dpkg -l | grep fglrx
[05:43] <EriC^^> just that line
[05:43] <EriC^^> hendrich: type dpkg -l | grep fglrx | nc termbin.com 9999
[05:44] <arjun_k> drwx------  2 implemer implemer     4096 Aug 20 20:06 32bitNb74withJDK
[05:44] <arjun_k> -rw-------  1 implemer implemer     2478 Dec 16 13:53 .bash_history
[05:44] <arjun_k> -rw-r--r--  1 implemer implemer      220 Aug 20 19:19 .bash_logout
[05:44] <arjun_k> -rw-r--r--  1 implemer implemer     3486 Aug 20 19:19 .bashrc
[05:44] <arjun_k> drwx------ 20 implemer implemer     4096 Oct 22 19:38 .cache
[05:44] <hendrich> EriC^^: Alright bro, lemme try
[05:44] <OerHeks> arjun_k, stop
[05:44] <arjun_k> drwx------  3 implemer implemer     4096 Jan 15 09:52 .compiz
[05:44] <EriC^^> hendrich: it will return a link to the stuff
[05:44] <OerHeks> !paste | arjun_k
[05:45] <hendrich> |
[05:45] <hendrich> how do i do that
[05:45] <hendrich> |
[05:45] <hendrich> got it
[05:45] <EriC^^> ok
[05:46] <alez> ää
 pls check the result . http://paste.ubuntu.com/9754012/
[05:46] <hendrich> EriC^^: It told me to use netcat
[05:49] <u-bot> hi
[05:49] <u-bot> hi
[05:49] <CtrlAltDelicious> arjun_k: I assume your username is implemer?
[05:49] <cpslcktrjn> hey u-bot
 what we can do now?
 what we can do now?
[05:49] <hendrich> EriC^^: Sorry I'm taking so long, its not working.
[05:50] <hendrich> I don't know if I'm typing it in wrong
[05:50] <CtrlAltDelicious> arjun_k: Do  "sudo apt-get moo"
[05:50] <CtrlAltDelicious> paste the results.

[05:50] <explosive> hendrich: 1 sec
[05:50] <hendrich> explosive: One.
[05:51] <EriC^^> hendrich: ok
[05:51] <EriC^^> hendrich: type sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[05:52] <arjun_k> h<CtrlAltDelicious> ttp://paste.ubuntu.com/9754034/
[05:52] <hendrich> EriC^^: Done.
 user name is developer. currently i logged in to implemer using su
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/9754034/
[05:53] <EriC^^> hendrich: ok type dpkg -l | grep fglrx | pastebinit
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> arjun_k: install 14.04 fresh
 but it is working perfectly for other users in hte system
[05:56] <hendrich> EriC^^: It told me I was trying to send an empty document, exiting.
[05:56] <EriC^^> hendrich: ok, type sudo apt-get install fglrx
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> arjun_k: you can always try an alternative filemanager, to test out the folders you cant open
[05:57] <javi404> what the fuck is going on in here?
[05:57] <hendrich> EriC^^: Oh god by the end of tonight these commands will be burned into my retina
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> !language | javi404
[05:57] <CtrlAltDelicious> hey arjun_k you still here?
[05:57] <hendrich> EriC^^: Done.
 yes
 which file manager?
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> arjun_k: checkout software centre
[05:58] <EriC^^> hendrich: ok, try to restart and see if it works
 it is already ther
[05:58] <javi404> lotuspsychje: language?
[05:58] <hendrich> EriC^^: And if it doesn't and horribly mucks up leaving me with a empty desktop and a unchecked Unity plugin?
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> !info dolphin | arjun_k something like this
[05:59] <CtrlAltDelicious> arjun_k: do this:    sudo apt-get install cowsay fortune-mod
[05:59] <EriC^^> hendrich: come back here :)
[05:59] <hendrich> EriC^^: :'(
[05:59] <EriC^^> lol
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> CtrlAltDelicious: why is this helpfull to install cowsay?
[05:59] <hendrich> EriC^^: Alright, thanks for the help. You're also kool with a k
 this is for?
[06:00] <CtrlAltDelicious> We need to check one more thing
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> CtrlAltDelicious: check what with cowsay?
[06:00] <CtrlAltDelicious> but you have to install cowsay to do it
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> CtrlAltDelicious: tell us whats it for first
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> CtrlAltDelicious: you gonna say moo to nautilus to fix?
[06:02] <CtrlAltDelicious> lotuspsychje: No, thats just silly.
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> CtrlAltDelicious: well whats it for then?
[06:02] <javi404> i can't follow this fooking conversation.
[06:02] <CtrlAltDelicious> have you never used cowsay?
[06:02] <CtrlAltDelicious> Seriously??
[06:02] <EriC^^> CtrlAltDelicious: you want to fortunemod | cowsay ?
[06:02] <savoca> install sl
[06:02] <OerHeks> CtrlAltDelicious, how is cowsay fixing issues?
[06:03] <CtrlAltDelicious> OerHeks: Cowsay answers many questions.
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> ..
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> !ot > javi404
[06:04] <javi404> can we talk about systemd now?
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> javi404: this channel is for support questions
[06:04] <javi404> ubottu: wtf are you talking about? is systemd not relavent?
[06:04] <javi404> i have a systemd question
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> !systemd | javi404
[06:04] <EriC^^> javi404: come back in 2016
[06:05] <javi404> maybe i can be allowed to ask it before im banned ffs.
[06:05] <javi404> whats wrong with you guys?
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> javi404: there's no reason to get angry
[06:05] <arjun_k> lotuspsychje>what we can do now
[06:05] <hendrich> EriC^^: I came back just to thank you for helping me out man, Ubuntu is working again with OpenGL acceleration.
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> javi404: you said 'talk about'
[06:05] <EriC^^> hendrich: cool, no problem :)
[06:05]  * rww looks up
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: nice fix
[06:06] <javi404> lotuspsychje: how can one not get angry? I didn't even ask my question and im getting PM from bots and mods about being on topic.
[06:06] <hendrich> javi404: Bro, just do what I do.
[06:06] <hendrich> Count from 10.
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> javi404: talking about packages is something else then asking a question
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> javi404: you havent asked a question yet
[06:07] <javi404> lotuspsychje: you don't even know what my question is going to be, because you shut me down before i can ask it.
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> javi404: and your question is?
 what we can do now??
 do i need to stay here or not?
[06:08] <javi404> lotuspsychje: my question was about the path to systemd, but at this point, i should just move my farm to centos and deal with redhat bullshit.
[06:08] <CtrlAltDelicious> arjun_k: Did you do this yet?     sudo apt-get install cowsay fortune-mod
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> !language | javi404
[06:08] <rww> javi404: the path to systemd is "wait for the next version of Ubuntu to come out"
[06:08] <javi404> lotuspsychje: what language?
[06:08] <rww> "bullshit"
[06:09] <javi404> ubottu: i was calm untill i ran into you guys
[06:09] <javi404> holy cow
[06:09] <CtrlAltDelicious> apt get moo javi404 ?
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> javi404: you can install systemd on ubuntu now, on your own risk..
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> !info systemd | javi404
[06:09] <rww> CtrlAltDelicious: can we keep the cowsay and mooing nonsense out of here please
[06:09] <javi404> is this the official ubuntu support channel?
[06:09] <rww> yep
[06:10] <CtrlAltDelicious> rww: Its not non-sense...
[06:10] <hendrich> javi404: No. Its the hidden society of penguin people.
[06:10] <hendrich> Worship the penguin.
[06:10] <hendrich> Love thy penguin.
[06:10] <javi404> hendrich: seems like it.
[06:10] <rww> !behelpful
[06:10] <rww> now, back to actual support questions
[06:10] <javi404> ubottu: your not helpful at all.
[06:11] <javi404> scumbag bot
[06:11] <javi404> who programed that POS?
[06:11] <hendrich> javi404: Whats the problemo bro?
[06:11]  * lotuspsychje is rest my case
[06:11] <rww> Yes, you can install systemd in currently released versions. No, it isn't supported as PID 1 yet. No, I wouldn't recommend doing it.
[06:11] <rww> Anything else?
[06:11] <javi404> hendrich: apparently the problem is, i can't even ask a question in here.
[06:11] <javi404> so much for community support.
[06:12] <rww> might I point out that you haven't actually tried yet
[06:12] <hendrich> javi404: Uh, yeah you can. Granted everyone except Eric has a stick up their butt, but they are trying to help you man.
[06:12] <arjun_k> i thought that u will solve my issues. but no one is trying to give proper solution for the problem
[06:12] <javi404> rww: scroll up.
[06:12] <CtrlAltDelicious> arjun_k: Im sorry man, Ill actulaly help this time
[06:12] <hendrich> Remember, they are doing this FOR FREE. Just ask.
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> arjun_k: did you try an alternative filemanager yet?
[06:12] <CtrlAltDelicious> Do this command, and paste the results
[06:12] <CtrlAltDelicious> sudo apt-get install lolcat
[06:13] <javi404> hendrich: i understand that, but i also help for free in other channels, and dont treat people like this.
[06:13] <chu> javi404: You came in with obscenities, if you had bothered to read the guidelines mentined in the topic. You might understand why you have not been as welcomed here as you (apparently) imagined you would be. This is not the fault of this community, this is entirely your own fault. Smarten up, or leave.
[06:13] <rww> javi404: I did. I don't see a question from you. What is your question?
[06:13] <javi404> chu: obscenities? are you serious?
[06:13] <chu> Dead serious mate.
[06:14] <javi404> rww: scroll up again.
[06:14] <javi404> chu: sorry that bad words hurt you.
[06:14] <hendrich> javi404: Why not just have this chat start from Square One, my friend?
[06:14] <hendrich> here, I'll start
[06:14] <javi404> ill try to confess my sins next time.
[06:14] <hendrich> Hello javi404, what is your problem?
[06:14] <javi404> hendrich: good idea.
[06:15] <javi404> hendrich: im currently running my cloud on centos6
[06:15] <javi404> i don't like centos7
[06:15] <javi404> because of systemd
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> !ot | javi404
[06:15] <rww> lotuspsychje: that's unnecessary.
[06:15] <javi404> how is ubuntu as far as systemd goes?
[06:15] <rww> javi404: Currently-released versions of Ubuntu do not use systemd as PID1. The next version, 15.04, will.
[06:16] <javi404> can someone mute that damn bot?
[06:16] <rww> 15.04 will not support alternative init systems other than systemd, so if you're on the not-a-fan-of-systemd side of the fence, I'd go with something else.
[06:16] <redDawn> OpenRC....
[06:16] <rww> (Debian springs to mind)
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> discussing other distro is ontopic now?
[06:17] <javi404> rww: but what is the game plan for other future versions?
[06:17] <rww> lotuspsychje: Providing background for a support question is ontopic. Goading users is not.
[06:17] <rww> javi404: The game plan for all versions of Ubuntu released in the future is systemd.
[06:17] <hendrich> javi404: Its honestly not close, i don't recommend Ubuntu for systemd yet.
[06:17] <javi404> lotuspsychje: im talking about switching distross pay attention.
[06:17] <supercom32> Do most OS's like Ubuntu need to handle ware leveling on SSD's or is that something which should happen transparently?
[06:17] <rww> supercom32: It's done using TRIM in the Linux kernel.
[06:18] <hendrich> Why is a Linux Kernel called a kernel?
[06:18] <supercom32> rww: So outside of TRIM, does it do anything else? or is it up to the SSD to do the rest?
[06:18] <javi404> hendrich: well that is what i need to consider.
[06:18] <rww> supercom32: As far as I know, the only thing the OS worries about is supporting TRIM, and the SSD does the rest itself.
[06:19] <zerowaitstate> hendrich: it's actually called a kernel is most OS'es, it's just you hear it more in Linux because you can actually compile it yourself
[06:19] <undecim> hendrich, because it's the center of the system, like the kernel of a seed
[06:19] <supercom32> rww: I've been told by some people that to keep your drive running fast, you should only fill it to about 75% usually. If you simply partition/size only 75% of the space, would that work? or does the whole drive need to be partitioned for the SSD ware leveling to know about it and use that space?
[06:20] <javi404> so why would i move my current cluster to ubuntu?
[06:20] <hendrich> zerowaitstate: Why would you want to compile a kernel yourself?
[06:20] <rww> supercom32: I don't know, sorry. You might want to ask ##hardware.
[06:20] <undecim> supercom32, You need to keep 75% of the filesystem space empty
[06:20] <zerowaitstate> zerowaitstate: to support new, interesting, or experimental things
[06:20] <javi404> supercom32: morons told you that
[06:20] <rww> javi404: Presumably you'd do so if you test it and it works better for you than other distros.
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> so far for ubuntu support...
[06:20] <hendrich> javi404: You don't.
[06:21] <javi404> rww: hendrich: basically what your saying is i should keep centos?
[06:21] <supercom32> javi484: Doesn't filling up your drive to capacity mean longer write times due to having to flush blocks and  write them again, vs just writing to an empty block?
[06:21] <javi404> supercom32: lrn2tab
[06:21] <rww> javi404: I'm saying that if you're considering switching, you should spin up Ubuntu on your testing gear and see if it works better for you than CentOS.
[06:21] <hendrich> javi404: Apparently Ubuntu just had a giant Pitstorm around systemd because the guys behind Ubuntu are neckbeard.
[06:21] <rww> If it does, then great. If not, stick with CentOS or use something else.
[06:21] <hendrich> javi404: Quote: "Finally, after Debian, Ubuntu's parent Linux distribution, voted for systemd , Ubuntu's founder Mark Shuttleworth announced that Canonical would support systemd rather than continue to push for Upstart."
[06:21] <undecim> supercom32, If you just have your partitioned sized like that, it's the same as having a smaller drive. They OS needs room to work, so files can be spaced out in case the sizes are changed
[06:22] <ki7mt> hendrich, to enable features that may not be enabled by default, or remove unwated features, re: Kernel: "der Kern" which I would translate to "the core".
[06:22] <rww> "pitstorm"? Ubuntu's switching to systemd, it's not controversial with us because we've *always* only supported one init system *shrug*
[06:22] <hendrich> javi404: So basically its way too early and you really should either stick with CentOS or look around.
[06:22] <hendrich> rww: I was told not to sweat by the Penguin God
[06:22] <hendrich> *swear
[06:22] <javi404> rww: im looking for professional feedback, you don't seem to have any, so just stop answering my questions unless you have run a 1000 node ubuntu cluster and can provide real world useful advice.
[06:23] <redDawn> If you want the greatness of a SysV Init system, look into Gentoo
[06:23] <hendrich> Gentoo is love
[06:23] <rww> javi404: Nobody here has run a 1000 node Ubuntu cluster, and I run Ubuntu professionally.
[06:23] <zerowaitstate> supercom32: filling the drive lowering performance is usually a filesystem efficiency issue relating to fragmentation. Linux handles fragmentation differently than Windows
[06:23] <undecim> Does 1k VMs count?
[06:23] <ki7mt> I have, but not with Ubuntu
[06:23] <javi404> undecim: yeah, that counts
[06:23] <hendrich> I have a robot that shoots 300 Ubuntu cluster bombs for the US military
[06:23] <redDawn> Uh oh... i sense a p!ssing match
[06:24] <undecim> javi404, gimme a couple days...
[06:24] <rww> hendrich: cut it out with the nonsense
[06:24] <javi404> rww: then I am asking for advice in the wrong place.
[06:24] <rww> javi404: then leave.
[06:24] <supercom32> zerowaitstate: I was under the impression for SSD drives this was diffrent as you can only write in blocks. Thus, if a block is partially filled, you need to read it out, modify and check in again. Vs just writing to an empty block.
[06:24] <supercom32> perhaps the performance loss isn't a lot, but I guess there is something
[06:24] <redDawn> doesn't the OS just see it as a generic block device anyway?
[06:24] <hendrich> Why would people want to compile their own kernels?
[06:25] <zerowaitstate> supercom32: that's true, but a lot of SSD's include wear-leveling firmware to counteract that.
[06:25] <ki7mt> javi404, That was my next statement, very few in there would have high level HPC experience, but I'm sure they are lurking from time to time
[06:25] <redDawn> hendrich, to det rid of unneccesary feautres that take up space and slow the kernel
[06:25] <zerowaitstate> supercom32: in essence, that's what TRIM does as well
[06:25] <rww> hendrich: generally, it's if the stock kernel doesn't enable something they need for their hardware
[06:25] <redDawn> or to enable special non standard features
[06:25] <rww> some people do it for performance reasons, but I've never found that to be particularly effective
[06:25] <hendrich> redDawn: Can you give me a basic example?
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> nice ontopic conversation...
[06:25] <redDawn> hendrich: Well, say you want to use a specia lTV tuner card....
[06:25] <undecim> supercom32, It would depend on the drive firmware
[06:26] <rww> lotuspsychje: If you're just going to sit here and ma                         │06:21:56         < hendrich> | javi404: Quote: "Finally, after Debian, Ubuntu's parent Linux distribution, voted for systemd , Ubuntu's founder Mark Shuttleworth announced that Canonical would support
[06:26] <rww> ... damn cat
[06:26] <rww> let's try that again
[06:26] <supercom32> zerowaitstate: I see
[06:26] <hendrich> redDawn: And normally its not suppourted by Ubuntu, you'd build it yourself to do it?
[06:26] <rww> lotuspsychje: if you're just going to sit here and make comments about on-topicness, perhaps it's time to take a break for a while
[06:26] <redDawn> Well, imean in general linux.
[06:26] <redDawn> In ubuntu
[06:26] <hendrich> So the kernel is like
[06:27] <hendrich> The brain?
[06:27] <ki7mt> Yes
[06:27] <supercom32> undecim: I assume even if you don't partition the whole SSD, the SSD firmware won't care. It will wear level over the whole device under the hood for you?
[06:27] <javi404> ki7mt: i notice that now. im just surprised that before i can even get to my question, there is a pissing match and i get targetted for censorship.
[06:27] <undecim> supercom32, It should. yeah
[06:27] <hendrich> And people compile kernels to do what they want? I see, never knew that.
[06:27] <redDawn> The kernel manages the physical resources of the system so programs I write can use those resources
[06:27] <redDawn> Like keyboard input, memory, harddisks
[06:27] <hendrich> redDawn: Thanks, I want to learn everything now.
[06:28] <hendrich> Why is Linux called Linux?
[06:28] <redDawn> I can suggest a few seminal books
[06:28] <undecim> hendrich, Linus's Minix
[06:28] <hendrich> redDawn: Go ahead
[06:28] <redDawn> "A quarter Century Of Unuix"
[06:28] <hendrich> What exactly *is* Linux?
[06:29] <hendrich> If the kernel is the brain
[06:29] <javi404> ki7mt: are there any people in here i should talk to maybe tomorrow when the children are in school?
[06:29] <hendrich> Then whats Linux?
[06:29] <ki7mt> javi404, I can discuss Infiniband, Realtime regression for Lithography Mask targets, Maxwell's equations , HDP, ETCH, etc etc and the like, but that is really way OffTopic here., but
[06:29] <redDawn> Linux is  particular Kernel developed by Linus Torvalds and a few others
[06:29] <undecim> hendrich, technically, just the linux kernel
[06:29] <redDawn> its a free and open-source kernel anyone can use or change
[06:29] <Guest85512> a people whose name is Linus
[06:29] <redDawn> Now, the operating system that ubuntu is based on is called GNU
[06:30] <javi404> ki7mt: really what i want to know is, are their any advantages to looking at ubuntu.
[06:30] <undecim> hendrich, It's the piece of code that runs directly on the CPU in a Linux OS. It acts as the interface between hardware and software.
[06:30] <zerowaitstate> supercom32: under the hood, what a lot of wear leveling firmware does is remap disk block locations so that sequential writes are physically sequential on the ssd. You can achieve the same effect with a log-structured filesystem
[06:30] <redDawn> "GNU is not Unix" A free and open Unix
[06:30] <javi404> systemd sucks, so might as well reevaluate.
[06:30] <hendrich> Then if Linux is a open-source Kernal made by Linus, what is Unix?
[06:30] <hendrich> Is Linux Unix?
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> rww: ill take a break allright, but this time your wrong about it
[06:30] <rww> javi404: If you don't like systemd, switching to a distro that's moving to systemd is probably not your best option.
[06:30] <ki7mt> hendrich, What are you trying to do, get a better understanding of Linux in general or do you have a Ubuntu specific problem?
[06:30] <redDawn> IS linux Unix?  Or will this just somehow effect wear leveling or performance?
[06:31] <hendrich> ki7mt: Well, in order to ask questions about Ubuntu, I need to know what the heck Ubuntu is
[06:31] <javi404> rww: i talked about reevaluating all distros.
[06:31] <zerowaitstate> supercom32: i don't recommend putting swap on an SSD
[06:31] <redDawn> Basicaly, Unix was this amazing thing, but it was licensed, and some hackers hated that
[06:31] <rww> oh for god's sake
[06:31] <redDawn> so they made a free one, called it GNU
[06:31] <xtpeeps> ./test:error while loading shared libraries :libstdc++.so.6:Connor  open shared object file :No such or directory
[06:31] <undecim> Was wondering how long that would take...
[06:31] <zerowaitstate> supercom32: i mean, you can, but swap will wear out the ssd due to frequent changes
[06:32] <ki7mt> javi404, It's all Application Dependant, you can spen more $$ on R&D trying to answer that question rather than just investing in the app development itself.
[06:32] <hendrich> I see, so a Kernel is the brain. Unix was a closed kernel which made people mad. Linus made Linux to have an open Kernel and Ubuntu was born out of Linux.
[06:32] <hendrich> Did I get that right?
[06:32] <rww> ki7mt: you might want to move to PM, we tired of the abuse here
[06:32] <bubbasaures> zerowaitstate, SSD's now have the same mean life as spinning ones.
[06:32] <supercom32> zerowaitstate: Something that wear leveling at the firmware level won't handle well I assume?
[06:32] <undecim> hendrich, pretty much
[06:32] <chu> hendrich: There's a book called "Just for Fun" you should find a copy of and read.
[06:32] <zerowaitstate> supercom32: bubbasaures is correct, really. It's less of a problem now than it was a few years ago
[06:32] <Guest85512> Why couldn't i name "jackie" in this chanel?
[06:33] <redDawn> Another great book:
[06:33] <phroa`> yo rww
[06:33] <redDawn> The design of Unix operating system by Maurice j Bach
[06:33] <rww> Guest85512: because someone already owns that on the IRC network we use
[06:33] <hendrich> So if Ubuntu is just a kernel, whats GNOME or Cinnamon? Are they just GUIs for the kernel?
[06:33] <redDawn> No, ubuntu is not a kernel
[06:33] <redDawn> Ubuntu Uses the linux kernel
[06:33] <bubbasaures> Guest85512, it is not the channel someone is registered with freenode
[06:34] <undecim> hendrich, Ubuntu isn't a new form of Linux Ubuntu has a copy of Linux (the "linux" packages) that it uses. I'd hesitate to call the kernel a brain (though it does a lot of intelligent stuff). It's not making decisions on what to do; that's the applications' job
[06:34] <ki7mt> hendrich, If you know nothing of Ubuntu, I would start here : https://ubuntu-manual.org/
[06:34] <redDawn> https://www.gnu.org/
[06:34] <redDawn> That site explains it very well, becuase they have been exlpaining it since the 80s
[06:34] <redDawn> lol
[06:34] <hendrich> thanks bro
[06:34] <supercom32> zerowaitstate: Ah, that helps thanks for the advice! To prevent SSD performance bottlenecks, how much free space would you recommend to have open?
[06:35] <ki7mt> I help write some of it, over the years.
[06:35] <supercom32> zerowaitstate: That is, space so the SSD firmware can do it's magic to try and keep things speedy and wear leveled
[06:35] <redDawn> If you want to learn to progam, I advise doing it in a Linux (Ubuntu or whatever) with C.
[06:35] <redDawn> C is the language of unix.
[06:36] <undecim> hendrich, The kernel is like a government
[06:36] <ki7mt> C++ and Python, and C being a close third.
[06:36] <redDawn> Python didn't exist for most of the unix history
[06:36] <zerowaitstate> supercom32: I honestly would not worry too much about it. A bigger concern is making sure the disk doesn't get full and crash something
[06:36] <redDawn> Now the language of linux? prob C++
[06:36] <undecim> hendrich, For example, any time a program needs more RAM, it asks the kernel through an "alloc" function, and the kernel finds it some free RAM and tells the program where it's at.
[06:37] <Ghost96> er.. anyone can guide me to install rtorrent & rutorrent in ubuntu 14.04 vps?
[06:37] <hendrich> So the kernel acts as the Admin of the OS?
[06:37] <zerowaitstate> supercom32: what are you running on this box?
[06:37] <aeon-ltd> Ghost96: not in the repos?
[06:37] <ki7mt> I would not n't say C++ is the language of Linux, it's just a very good starting point.
[06:37] <Ghost96> yeah, i'm using repos
[06:37] <supercom32> zerowaitstate: Well, the reason I asked is because If I leave space on a drive, I tend to fill it up with junk (^_^); I plan to put Ubunu 14.04 on it.
[06:37] <aeon-ltd> Ghost96: is rtorrent there?
[06:38] <supercom32> zerowaitstate: Or at least the head of stream non-LTS version of Ubuntu.
[06:38] <OerHeks> Ghost96, sudo apt-get install rtorrent
[06:38] <undecim> hendrich, it also lets programs manage files. Whenever you need open a file, the program does a syscall to the kernel to open and read it
[06:38] <OerHeks> rutorrent does notexist.
[06:38] <hendrich> undecim: I see
[06:38] <hendrich> So what exactly are the terminals and why are there 4 of them? I tried using one and when i tried doing two terminals do things at once, one got unhappy and stopped whatever it was doing.
[06:38] <ki7mt> hendrich, The kernel is the interface between the physical hardware and what you eventually see as the user. It has lots of modules and apps that help it do it's thing.
[06:38] <hendrich> Is the GUI basically a fancy terminal?
[06:39] <Ghost96> .. for rutorrent i fetch it at rakshasa.no
[06:39] <undecim> hendrich, terminals are just apps
[06:39] <xtpeeps> Anyone can help me ,what's the meaning is this :  ./test:error while loading shared libraries :libstdc++.so.6:Connor  open shared object file :No such or directory
[06:39] <hendrich> undecim: Why can't they have graphics if they are apps?
[06:39] <hendrich> Why are they black and ugly?
[06:39] <undecim> hendrich, basically any program has an input stream and an output stream
[06:39] <zerowaitstate> supercom32: most bottlenecks on filesystems for direct attach disks is related to seek time. For SSD that is non-existent, which means you will hit either software or SATA bus limitations first.
[06:40] <redDawn> "Operating System Concepts 2012" I have an older version, has dinosaurs on cover. Highly recomend
[06:40] <undecim> hendrich, the terminal lets you see the output, and send text to the input
[06:40] <CtrlAltDelicious> xtpeeps: Means it cant find libstdc++.so
[06:40] <OerHeks> xtpeeps, seems like you haven no libstdc++.so installed
[06:40] <amh345> I'm trying to install vpn for cisco in ubuntu. as it turns out the cisco linux vpn app is really outdated and doesnt work with newer distress.
[06:40] <redDawn> you can get all these books without cost on the net in pdf format... if you choose
[06:40] <CtrlAltDelicious> sudo apt-get updatedb
[06:40] <CtrlAltDelicious> then do  locate libstdc++.so
[06:40] <amh345> anyone deal with this before?
[06:40] <CtrlAltDelicious> see if it shows up anywhere
[06:40] <undecim> hendrich, in Ubuntu, it launches a program called Bash to give you control of the system through text commands
[06:40] <hendrich> undecim: Why not it does that without looking like MSDOS? Can I replace them?
[06:40] <ki7mt> xtpeeps, More than likely, you have a linker error or lib missing for the test
[06:40] <aeon-ltd> hendrich: text based, it requires very little rendering so not much power is needed to display termnals
[06:40] <supercom32> zerowaitstate: That's a good point.
[06:41] <undecim> hendrich, Are you talking about the Ctrl+Alt+F* terminals?
[06:41] <amh345> i found a link that apparently has patches for it.. but it's on stand ford uni's website and you need a login.
[06:41] <zerowaitstate> supercom32: i've had SSD's on an LSI MegaRAID card, and the raid card ended up being the bottleneck
[06:41] <hendrich> undecim: Yea
[06:41] <mallory> french?
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> !fr | mallory
[06:41] <undecim> hendrich, just use the terminal app...
[06:41] <xtpeeps> Letme see THX,guys!
[06:41] <undecim> hendrich, You can change the fonts and colors and stuff
[06:41] <hendrich> undecim: Yeah, lemme rephrase my question
[06:42] <OerHeks> xtpeeps, sudo apt-get install libstdc++6
[06:42] <hendrich> See how fancy Pidgin IRC is? Its all purple, white, sexy, appealing, has tabs and everything.
[06:42] <hendrich> The terminal is ugly as sin and basic
[06:42] <redDawn> https://files.opensuse.org/opensuse/en/e/e2/Flow1.jpg
[06:42] <redDawn> A bsic fowgraph
[06:42] <hendrich> So if the terminal is an app, why isn't there a terminal app for noobs?
[06:42] <redDawn> The "terminal" is the SHell
[06:42] <zerowaitstate> supercom32: frankly, once you hit a certain number of IOPS, stuff like the linux kernel itself can actually become a bottleneck.
[06:42] <undecim> hendrich, You're saying you don't want a text-based interface?
[06:43] <hendrich> undecim: I guess so, is that possible on ubuntu?
[06:43] <CtrlAltDelicious> xtpeeps: Do this:   sudo ln -s /usr/lib32/libstdc++.so.6 /usr/lib32/libstdc++.so
[06:43] <CtrlAltDelicious> and try again
[06:43] <undecim> hendrich, Yeah. It's what Ubuntu devs have spent a lot of time on.
[06:43] <undecim> We call it Ubuntu
[06:43] <redDawn> The text based interface is an amazingly powerful tool to programmers and powerusers. But if you want all major linux distros (ubuntu included) support GUI
[06:43] <supercom32> zerowaitstate: I see. I guess with modern SSD's a lot of these older problems are no longer an issue.
[06:44] <undecim> The great thing about a terminal is that its unambiguous
[06:44] <hendrich> undecim: Then why do I still need to use the terminal for things like downloading fglrx?
[06:44] <undecim> hendrich, Because ubuntu and AMD haven't gotten that intimate yet
[06:44] <redDawn> Infact ubuntu is the leading Linux Distro for people new to Linux.
[06:44] <CtrlAltDelicious> xtpeeps: did that help?
[06:44] <OerHeks> hendrich, you don't have to
[06:44] <hendrich> If Ubuntu is the leading Linux Distro for new people then it has failed for anyone using it to game.
[06:44] <redDawn> ?
[06:44] <redDawn> Steam on Linux?
[06:44] <hendrich> Yeah.
[06:45] <redDawn> Half life series, portal series, Arma 3
[06:45] <undecim> There's nothing Ubuntu can do about that.  Don't recall it being pretty.
[06:46] <hateball> If you're looking to game, it helps doing research so you can avoid AMD and go for nVidia or Intel
[06:46] <hendrich> it hurts being poor
[06:46] <redDawn> Hate, nothing is wrong with AMD.
[06:46] <undecim> I still get better results with AMD
[06:46] <undecim> It just takes some fiddling with drivers
[06:47] <redDawn> AMD is a great company with good hardware
[06:47] <ki7mt> Some fiddling ? that's a joke right ;-)
[06:47] <undecim> ki7mt, Sounds like you had to try a few different things to get yours working. But don't think your experiences are universal
[06:47] <zerowaitstate> frankly, the video manufacturers have a hard time keeping up with kernel developments. Linux kernel changes WAY faster than Microsoft, Apple, etc.
[06:47] <hendrich> Why is that?
[06:48] <ki7mt> I got nothing against AMD, got a 32-core Workstation that is awesome.
[06:48] <undecim> nice
[06:48] <zerowaitstate> ki7mt: do you cook your breakfast on it?
[06:48] <hendrich> Why can M$ get away with not updating their kernel often but distros like ubuntu does?
[06:48] <redDawn> hendrich, Linux isn't windows. Though it is in every technical way superior as a result of the Unix Heritage and the FOSS philosophy; we cannot force developers to develop on it. And most end user use windows, so most games a written for Windows.
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> !offtopic
[06:49] <undecim> hendrich, because Windows has to support every piece of software and pluggable gizmo you can think of
[06:49] <rww> Indeed. Can we take the hardware debate and the "closed source software makes my gaming hard" to #ubuntu-offtopic, please?
[06:49] <redDawn> And M$ wont show us the code.
[06:49] <hendrich> rww: Okay dokey
[06:49] <undecim> hendrich, And changes to the kernel can cause problems with it. In the Linux world, package managers and the benefits of open source make this less of a problem
[06:49] <zerowaitstate> lotuspsychje: very well sir
[06:50] <jnhghy> I've installed smartmoontools to test my ssd (my system was freezing so started testing things) and when I run "smartctl -a /dev/sda" I get error and I think the ssd needs to be replaced, can anybody confirm: http://pastebin.com/2QWMZWbd
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> jnhghy: did you change bios from ide to ahci?
[06:51] <hendrich> Where can I go to change the performance/appearance settings of Ubuntu? I see apperance but it doesn't affect anythign like the transparency/window effects
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> hendrich: install ccsm
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> hendrich: some unity effects there to tune
[06:51] <jnhghy> lotuspsychje: I'll have to check that as this is set up for a while now and I can't remember .... can that cause that error to be displayed?
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> jnhghy: wich ubuntu version and ssd brand plz?
[06:52] <hendrich> Why does Ubuntu have Amazon and why did so many people get butthurt over it? Is it there to stay?
[06:52] <zerowaitstate> jnhghy: you need to switch your bus mode to AHCI regardless.
[06:52] <jnhghy> lotuspsychje: ubuntu 14.04 ssd Kingstone
[06:52] <rww> hendrich: Ubuntu hasn't included Amazon in Unity search results for a while now.
[06:52] <hendrich> Really? This is 14.10 and its still there.
[06:52] <redDawn> hendrich, Most people who use linux prided themselves on systems that had no Microsoft style bloatware.
[06:52] <hendrich> Fresh off the site.
[06:53] <rww> hendrich: That's odd, considering I tested it literally last week.
[06:53] <rww> The icon is on the bar by default. Search results are not.
[06:53] <hendrich> No, unless the website on my W7 machine gave me some wierd version, they are infact there.
[06:53] <hendrich> I know because I disabled them.
[06:54] <mariuscc> I got a problem installing mongo extension for php, I upgraded php to 5.4 from 5.4 it used to work on that version, but now when I reinstall mongo it seams that the api version is not compatible
[06:54] <rww> Good, sounds like you're all sorted as far as Amazon goes, then.
[06:54] <xtpeeps> CtrlAltDelicious:hn..known something but still have programs... THX  man
[06:54] <hendrich> Yeah, but will it always be there?
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> jnhghy: takes long loading on pastebin
[06:54] <CtrlAltDelicious> xtpeeps: Do what?
[06:54] <rww> hendrich: that sort of thing goes to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> jnhghy: can you paste to pasteubuntu plz?
[06:54] <mariuscc> now idk how to check if there's a compatible version or I'm doing something wrong
[06:55] <jnhghy> lotuspsychje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9754229/ thank you for your effort
[06:55] <hendrich> rww: I disagree, I'm asking if there is a reason to worry if Amazon is bloatware/spyware and if its better if I remove it.
[06:55] <hendrich> Amazon is apart of Ubuntu so I need suppourt for this question
[06:55] <redDawn> You can do anything you would like, its your system. It won't break anything if you remove it.
[06:56] <puppy> 0.0
[06:56] <rww> hendrich: No it's not bloatware or spyware, and you already know how to remove it and whether to do so is up to you.
[06:56] <hendrich> redDawn: Alright, thanks.
[06:56] <puppy> 说话说话
[06:56] <zerowaitstate> mariuscc: that question really needs to go to #php, although i feel your pain. php is a crime against humanity.
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> jnhghy: does sudo hdparm -Tt /dev/sda show anything?
[06:56] <redDawn> As is javascript.
[06:56] <rww> puppy: #ubuntu-cn for Chinese-language discussion, please
[06:56] <mariuscc> zerowaitstate: thanks alot
[06:57] <xtpeeps> CtrlAltDelicious:working on my codes,seems I didn't install opencvd
[06:57] <CtrlAltDelicious> xtpeeps: ah, cool.
[06:58] <redDawn> I think whether is bloat-ware or not is debatable, but not here. It isn't spyware for sure
[06:58] <ki7mt> xtpeeps, You should not have created a link either, eventually, that will break you builds.
[06:58] <aeon-ltd> redDawn: it's as much spyware as google services are spyware
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> jnhghy: i would doublecheck sata cables, bios layout, ide to ahci change and firmware upgrade of your kingston
[06:59] <redDawn> I did say that? didn't I?
[06:59] <redDawn> I said it is debatable that is bloatware
[07:00] <redDawn> spyware is only spyware when it claims to be something else
[07:00] <jnhghy> lotuspsychje: thanks for your suggestion, it just freeze so I'll have to reboot it if I'm on it I'll also check the cables and bios, thanks for the suggestions and your time, I really appreciate it :)
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> jnhghy: no sweat mate
[07:00] <xtpeeps> ki7Mt: I download the files from web , the author linked it
[07:00] <redDawn> I do like the unite search of papers though
[07:00] <redDawn> *unity
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> jnhghy: when did this all start to happen?
[07:01] <ki7mt> xtpeeps, It's up too you ... but soon or later, that will be an issues if your your linking compiler libs
[07:01] <ki7mt> s/soon/sooner/
[07:01] <shadaloo> hi anyone know how to get vlc to play videos while I'm alt+tabbing
[07:02] <jnhghy> lotuspsychje: a few days ago... it first showed an "Operating System Not Found" error, I've rebooted it and it started... then stated freezing ... I don't remember any major changes that could have this impact (no bios changes at least)
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> jnhghy: is this an uefi machine?
[07:03] <jnhghy> lotuspsychje: yes
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> jnhghy: did ubuntu work properly before on your ssd?
[07:03] <jnhghy> lotuspsychje: for about 2 months yes
[07:04] <freedom101> rww: You may not know this but in 1933 a group of people started to impose the same sort of censorship you do on this irc channel, except instead of just banning someone with the click of a mouse, they rounded them up and gassed them. This group of people were the Nazi. Now you might justify to yourself why you kick people from this channel because you don't like bad words or don't agree with their ideas, but lets be clear. You are
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> jnhghy: hmm thats weird indeed, did you change anything recently?
[07:04] <jnhghy> lotuspsychje: I'll start checking cables ... thanks for your help :)
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> jnhghy: okay good luck mate
[07:04] <jnhghy> lotuspsychje: thanks
[07:04] <xtpeeps> ki7Mt: my Qt version too old
[07:06] <ki7mt> xtpeeps, then use pbuilder
[07:07] <ki7mt> xtpeeps, Or use the opensource-installer and stcik it in /opt
[07:08] <redDawn> freedom ??
[07:08] <redDawn> are you smoking crack?
[07:09] <xtpeeps> libstdc++.so.6 need for arm
[07:09] <xtpeeps> Not for Intel
[07:09] <ki7mt> xtpeeps, Install the cross compilers then
[07:11] <ki7mt> xtpeeps, That's where I'll leave is, as I don;t deal / work well with the arm devices, they get under my skin real quick.
[07:12] <ki7mt> redDawn, he had an opinion, however misguided it may have been, it was definitely in the wrong channel :regardless.
[07:12] <xtpeeps> ki7mt:okey,okey ,  I finished it Thank you!!!
[07:13] <redDawn> A guy comes in and accuses channel operators of being nazi death camp operators and you say "eh just an opinion"
[07:13] <redDawn> the lulz
[07:14] <xtpeeps> ki7mt: it really means alot to me
[07:14] <ki7mt> xtpeeps, what does? this program ?
[07:16] <ki7mt> redDawn, It is an opinion, he's entitled to it, just as rww was entitled to boot his @ss out for saying something so silly.
[07:16] <rww> Probably best if we just get back to support instead of pondering it too much :)
[07:16] <redDawn> ;P
[07:20] <u-bot> hi
[07:21] <xtpeeps> ki7mt:yes ,I'm working on my graduate proj
[07:22] <ki7mt> xtpeeps, Ok, been there, done that, just glad it wasn't ARM :-)
[07:23] <ki7mt> Anyway, I have to file some ITP's for packages. so CUL
[07:29] <xtpeeps> ki7mt, I am using OpenCV  for arm , do you know something about it ?
[07:30] <ki7mt> xtpeeps, Other than it's a Gtk cross compiler setup, no, not allot really.
[07:32] <dsnyders> !xorg.conf
[07:32] <xtpeeps> ki7mt,ok Thank you all the same
[07:36] <u-bot> hello guys, can somebody advice me any software for web programming? ))
[07:37] <ki7mt> u-bot, depends on what kind of advise is needed, that's the question?
[07:37] <Stanley00> u-bot: html/html5/php/js/python... plenty of them :3
[07:37] <cfhowlett> u-bot, gedit for editor is already on your system
[07:37] <ki7mt> s/that's/what is/
[07:37] <joody> hello
[07:37] <Stanley00> u-bot: oops, sorry, misread the question :(
[07:38] <OerHeks> !IDE
[07:39] <u-bot> thanks)
[07:40] <kernix> hey all
[07:40] <OerHeks> hi kernix
[07:41] <kernix> hey OerHeks
[07:41] <shadaloo> hi anyone know how to get vlc to play videos while I'm alt+tabbing
[07:41] <bubbasaures> shadaloo, This 15.04?
[07:43] <bubbasaures> shadaloo, keyboard has shortcuts, you might look there, you asked in the development channel is all.
[07:44] <mody_> hello
[07:44] <u-bot> hi
[07:44] <OerHeks> shadaloo, you want to start a movie without mouse? use space to start
[07:44] <xtpeeps> Anyone know image2LCD
[07:45] <xtpeeps> How can I use it in Linux
[07:46] <cfhowlett> xtpeeps, meh.  pretty ghostscript already does that.
[07:46] <OerHeks> !find image2LCD
[07:46] <xtpeeps> ==
[07:46] <ki7mt> Dont know about image2LCD but, check into ImageMagic or GIMP for *nix, or if your really motivated, POV-Ray
[07:47] <OerHeks> xtpeeps, what does image2LCD?
[07:47] <cfhowlett> ki7mt, I believe POV ray functionality has been integrated in blender
[07:47] <shadaloo> OerHeks:
[07:47] <shadaloo> no I want the movie to continue playing while I am alt+tabbing between programs
[07:48] <ki7mt> cfhowlett, Been a while for me, it may have been, Im no t sure.
[07:48] <OerHeks> shadaloo, no problem here, vlc keeps om playing while tabbing to an other app
[07:48] <u-bot> shadaloo, use supper+s
[07:50] <xtpeeps> cfhowlett:I wanna use it to create files. c
[07:50] <shadaloo> OerHeks:
[07:50] <shadaloo> must be because I upgraded to 15.04
[07:50] <OerHeks> shadaloo, not supported here untill release, join #ubuntu+1 for vivid support
[07:51] <OerHeks> might be a bug
[07:51] <xtpeeps> OerHeks:  it change image to .c
[07:52] <xtpeeps> Put the pic to arm,then show it
[07:57] <KoboldMcGee> Hey I'm having a problem
[07:57] <KoboldMcGee> I'm running 12.04 and I can't find my update-manager
[08:00] <bubbasaures> KoboldMcGee, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ23oAgvHlc found this might help.
[08:02] <KoboldMcGee> Thanks bubbasures
[08:02] <bubbasaures> KoboldMcGee, No problem.
[08:03] <KoboldMcGee> Wait I typed update-manager in the dash but nothing shoped up
[08:04] <mariuscc> I'm trying to enable mongo extension for php, but it seams it want to load it from the wrong path althogh I tried all kind of combination, there is some sort of cache somewhere ?
[08:04] <lotuspsychje> KoboldMcGee: start sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade from terminal
[08:05] <OerHeks> KoboldMcGee, try 'update' and see what comes up?
[08:06] <OerHeks> also update-manager should work
[08:07] <KoboldMcGee> Well it looked like it installed some things but I don't see any changes let me restart my system and I'll be right back
[08:11] <KoboldMcGee> I'm back and it still looks like nothing changed
[08:12] <lotuspsychje> KoboldMcGee: what are you trying to do exactly?
[08:12] <bubbasaures> KoboldMcGee, We have not heard what any issue was but finding the update-manager, tell us what else is going on.
[08:13] <KoboldMcGee> Well I wated steam but it said I was missing libc.so.6 and I looked it up and it said to update but I couldn't figure it out so I want to update
[08:14] <KoboldMcGee> I am running a practily fresh install on my chromebook because chrome os is bad
[08:15] <KoboldMcGee> I'm not sure if a perfect install is possible but I can't really see why It wouldn't be
[08:16] <bubbasaures> KoboldMcGee, You want to be careful comparing a perfect world and the one we are in. ;)
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> KoboldMcGee: wich version did you install on chromebook?
[08:16] <KoboldMcGee> 12.04
[08:16] <KoboldMcGee> I think let me double check
[08:17] <KoboldMcGee> Yea definately
[08:17] <lotuspsychje> KoboldMcGee: and 12.04 installed right out the box on chromebook?
[08:17] <KoboldMcGee> ot's a year or two old
[08:18] <KoboldMcGee> it's*
[08:18] <KoboldMcGee> But I wiped it in order to install ubuntu
[08:19] <adrian_1908> If a program is updated to a new version while I'm running it (e.g. Firefox), does the old version stay in RAM while its files are replaced, or does the update create a separate directory for the new files and somehow manages the replacement/cleanup at a later time?
[08:19] <francesco_> hi
[08:19] <francesco_> list!
[08:20] <kernix> hey francesco_
[08:20] <bubbasaures> francesco_, no wares same as last night
[08:25] <bubbasaures> adrian_1908 ou might ask in #firefox
[08:25] <bubbasaures> you*
[08:26] <bubbasaures> I have mine running in ram anyway
[08:27] <adrian_1908> bubbasaures: I was referring to update via the package manager, so nothing Firefox specific. I've found some forum discussions about it, that i'm ready right now :)
[08:29] <bubbasaures> adrian_1908, Ah, good, if I understand, I don't know exactly.
[08:34] <adrian_1908> The answer to this question (http://bit.ly/1ASRt3J) offers a nice and short explanation, in case anyone is interested as well.
[08:41] <liyi> whoami
[08:46] <borw3> Hmm, my school blocked me from updating my ubuntu version by blocking some repository, so I was thinking is it possible to still update via tor using apt-get update?
[08:47] <bubbasaures> borw3, Talk to their IT we can't do that.
[08:48] <borw3> bubbasaures: my schools IT department?
[08:48] <bubbasaures> borw3, You're asking us to be part of you breaking rules.
[08:50] <borw3> bubbasaures: It's not a rule if the person who et it doesn't know how to it happend, it's an un-intentional bug
[08:50] <bubbasaures> straw man
[08:51] <borw3> bubbaaures:I mean that the IT department don't know themselves even how it happend
[08:51] <borw3> bubbaaures:And they are the ones in charge, so is it really breaking a rule?
[08:53] <onla> ok no. I added a line to be executed on the bootup to the file /etc/rc.local but it didnt execute on bootup, or maybe after executing it got reverted?
[08:54] <onla> the line is setting my custom keyboard settings with xmodmap
[08:54] <borw3> onla: try adding that line to the ~/.profile file
[08:56] <onla> add in the bottom below the fi line I guess
[08:56] <onla> guess that fi closes the previous multi line command, there is no exit 0 on the file
[08:57] <onla> I try boot right away
[08:59] <onla> no. not working
[09:01] <onla> have tried etc/init etc/init.d etc/rc.local ~/.profile and even one more I forgot
[09:01] <onla> actually 2 more. Tried adding it to the ubunt gui version starup app list
[09:01] <borw3> onla: what exactly is your code?
[09:02] <onla> xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap < this is the command which runs xmodmap layout thing and set keys to my keyboard
[09:03] <onla> so I can dave äö symbols on dvorak keyboard, because such keyboard doesnt exist
[09:03] <rekt> anyone know how to get hbo go to work?
[09:03] <onla> do you want to see whats inside that file
[09:05] <Industrial> Hi. Is there a GUI frontend to apt-get that isn't Software Center? I remember there was something before Software Center that allowed you to select 20 packages, then click apply and it would install them.
[09:05] <Industrial> I am really annoyed by Software Center
[09:06] <DJones> Industrial: synaptic
[09:06] <Industrial> whenever I install something some stupid spinner reloads the whole app all the time. Totally unneeded and user unfriendly imho.
[09:06] <Industrial> thanks
[09:07] <Industrial> I created a ticket for this issue at least 5 years ago
[09:07] <Industrial> noone has ever looked at it
[09:07] <onla> borw3: ye actually this seem to be a common problem so no wonder it doesnt work
[09:08] <Industrial> Why is the spinner even there at all in the Software Center? Why cant it just update entried from Installing to Installed (just a label update!) in the background? I dunno :)
[09:08] <bubbasaures> Industrial, 5 years and your using a gui?
[09:08] <Industrial> bubbasaures: Sometimes I use a GUI for things, yeah.
[09:09] <bubbasaures> Industrial, Me to, just seems like a pointless goal and rhetoric is all. ;)
[09:09] <Industrial> well I'm just saying my webapps are more responsive then this app
[09:10] <neionz> does anyone know if sudo-apt get install gcc-avr is maintained?
[09:11] <rekt> is there another name for the hal package i know its been scraped but is there an alternative ?
[09:12] <dai_wrk> Industrial: the app you are looking for is probably synaptic package manager, the package name is 'synaptic'
[09:15] <onla> I am using ubuntu but I dont have the gnome specific /etc/gdm directory, is this normal
[09:15] <mgedmin> onla, ubuntu uses LightDM instead of GDM by default
[09:15] <bubbasaures> neionz, http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/g/gcc-avr/gcc-avr_4.8-2.1/changelog
[09:15] <onla> oh ok
[09:17] <neionz> bubbasaures: thanks! Do you know whether "Non-maintainer upload." means anything?
[09:17] <bubbasaures> neionz, Not really, just was curious what it actually was and found this.
[09:18] <mgedmin> neionz, https://wiki.debian.org/NonMaintainerUpload
[09:18] <surs> is SQuirrel sql client available in official repositories?
[09:19] <anonymous__> start
[09:22] <neionz> so much software has to be maintained in the linux world. How does anyone have the energy to keep up for so long?
[09:23] <bubbasaures> neionz, I think a lot of it is the free work of developers, it is part of the net as servers and businesses..etc
[09:26] <bubbasaures> neionz, Last I heard the LHC runs fedora, amazon is linux, 99% of the fastest super computers are linux.
[09:27] <redDawn>  Linux does run in a number of high performance environments, like Crays
[09:28] <neionz> bubbasaures: so amazon, when they change something in linux, they submit it?
[09:28] <neionz> bubbasaures: they don't just keep the changes for themselves?
[09:29] <bubbasaures> neionz, Ah, they use it, I would not know of any support, I meant the wide spread use is all.
[09:30] <varun_saxena> ##hadoop-ats
[09:30] <bubbasaures> neionz, Here is an interesting list, http://www.comparebusinessproducts.com/fyi/50-places-linux-running-you-might-not-expect   Does not explain your question really but just an example of use.
[09:32] <neionz> bubbasaures: none of them were surprising
[09:33] <neionz> :#
[09:33] <neionz> :3
[09:33] <bubbasaures> I suppose not, wish there was an answer, no real answer probably just so many variables.
[09:33] <alez> ;)
[09:34] <bubbasaures> sigh
[09:39] <Qwertie> Does anyone know where the nvidia x server settings are saved?
[09:40] <Droo> Hello can I get some help with running a java jar in a cronjob, I actually need it to start the java at a certain time, occasionally check if it is running, if it is, leave it alone, if it isnt, the start it
[09:41] <Droo> java -Xmx1G -Xms32M -jar server.jar ---is what i use to start the server in terminal
[09:42] <mgedmin> Droo: supervisor is a tool that can start processes on boot and restart them if they crash, configurable via a bunch of simple .ini files in /etc
[09:43] <mgedmin> it can be easier than checking if the right process is running from a cron script
[09:43] <Droo> mgedmin: thanks for that I will look for it now, I connect via SSH btw I'm not at a physical terminal, does supervisor require gnome/kde or is it all terminal?
[09:43] <mgedmin> pure terminal
[09:43] <northernwind> hey
[09:43] <Droo> repositories? apt-get? or website and wget?
[09:43] <mgedmin> (it has an optional web server where you can see if processes are running, start/stop them or look at their log output)
[09:44] <mgedmin> sudo apt-get install supervisor
[09:44] <Droo> oh thats outstanding
[09:44] <Droo> on its on or is apache required?
[09:45] <Droo> Hey thanks alot for your time and help, really appreciate it.
[09:46] <mgedmin> it has its own (Python-based) web server, disabled by default
[09:46] <mgedmin> I wouldn't expose it to the internet
[09:46] <mgedmin> I sometimes put it behind apache, protected by an .htpasswd and SSL, using mod_proxy
[09:47] <mgedmin> it's somewhat buggy (redirects to the wrong location when you use some of the functions), but eh
[09:47] <Droo> well this is purely a game server I have it locked down other than ssh and the game
[09:47] <Droo> website is hosted elsewhere
[09:49] <northernwind> sadasdasdas
[09:49] <northernwind> hey
[09:54] <guest-Ydk4DM_> hi
[09:56] <guest-Ydk4DM_> hi
[09:57] <y4h0> hi all
[10:05] <u-bot> y4h0, hi)
[10:09] <elseJun> >h
[10:10] <AstaraOS> AstaraOS> http://AstaraOS.us.to For AstaraOS Kernel Development
[10:10] <AstaraOS> <AstaraOS> and /server irc.AstaraOS.us.to 6667 channel #AstaraOS
[10:10] <AstaraOS> <AstaraOS> anyone interested
[10:10] <AstaraOS> AstaraOS> http://AstaraOS.us.to For AstaraOS Kernel Development
[10:10] <AstaraOS> <AstaraOS> and /server irc.AstaraOS.us.to 6667 channel #AstaraOS
[10:10] <AstaraOS> <AstaraOS> anyone interested
[10:10] <cfhowlett> astra05, that pretty much - spam.  don't spam.
[10:11] <anti-unix> let us play firefoxhello!!!
[10:11] <cfhowlett> anti-unix, this channel is for ubuntu support so ... no.
[10:11] <anti-unix> :(
[10:11] <u-bot> :)
[10:13] <Ghost96> hey, anyone have tried installing rtorrent + rutorrent manually and successfully?
[10:13] <Ghost96> *anyone here
[10:13] <cfhowlett> !patience | Ghost96
[10:13] <Ghost96> my vps is using ubuntu 14
[10:16] <almostworking> i have a VPN/VPS, im picking out which level of service , ill be using, ubuntu 14, is an option, amoung other distros.
[10:17] <almostworking> leaning toward , this provider, anyway.....
[10:17] <Ghost96> :[
[10:20] <maubug> ciao atutti
[10:30] <nikitha> hi
[10:30] <u-bot> hi
[10:31] <nikitha> someone help, im unable to see folder created on external driver with windows 7 in ubuntu 14.04 ?  im able see files  but not other folders ? please guide
[10:33] <sheer> hi. i'm having a problem connecting to a wireless network that i used to have no issue with. where's a good place to ask for help?
[10:35] <almostworking> ##networking sheer , only place i can think of. on freenode .... once ubuntu picks up , thou might find answer here.
[10:35] <almostworking> peeps, in ##nwetworking really know their stuff, mostly enterprise talk in there
[10:35] <sheer> thanks almostworking
[10:36] <almostworking> np .  , im up early shoppin, for elec. cig batteries.....
[10:36] <avenger> Anyone uses mumble here?
[10:36]  * almostworking never heard of it...
[10:36] <boodllebat> avenger: me when i playe age of empire with friends
[10:37] <almostworking> if its for phones,  i use voxer alot....
[10:37] <sheer> "self-assigned IP address"  Something about that
[10:37] <avenger> I just installed it, And I want to test it. But when I tries to coonect to server there is just silence
[10:39] <boodllebat> avenger: have you configured you mic
[10:39] <boodllebat> avenger: there'll be silence if no one else is in the room
[10:40] <avenger> Am I supposed to join a channel to hear wht the peope are saying?
[10:40] <boodllebat> avenger: yes
[10:41] <boodllebat> avenger: you have to join a mumble server and then join a channel in which users are already there to hear them
[10:41] <boodllebat> avenger: i suggest you not to hear personal conversations
[10:43] <avenger> To set your own private server, the option is in the doftware?
[10:46] <boodllebat> avenger: you have to download murmur
[10:47] <blackyboy> what is checkpoint open server ? Will any one explain me this was only a Firewall or any thing more than that ?
[10:49] <OerHeks> blackyboy, where do you find that 'checkpoint open server'? it is not in our repo's, is it?
[10:50] <blackyboy> OerHeks: i got one of video tutorial while searching in google for firewall, seems checkpoint was very popular and heard about this before too.
[10:50] <OerHeks> blackyboy, then find the appropriate channel for that, it is not supported here.
[10:51] <blackyboy> OerHeks: i know that if you don't know sit quite, There are lot of thinks to learn if you not interested be side
[10:51] <blackyboy> :P
[10:52] <OerHeks> blackyboy, this is ubuntu support only, friend.
[10:52] <blackyboy> OerHeks: Ok buddy let it be, Thanks for your time.
[10:53] <ram_> how to create bootable win8 cd in ubuntu
[10:54] <cfhowlett> ram_, best to use windows tools for ##windows boot.  ask ##windows
[10:54] <supaplex> ram_: did you prep the cd for  20 seconds in the microwave?
[10:54] <cfhowlett> !behelpful | supaplex,
[10:54] <supaplex> sorry :/
[10:56] <nikitha1> someone help, im unable to see folder created on external driver with windows 7 in ubuntu 14.04 ?  im able see files  but not other folders ? please guide
[10:57] <sheer> $5 up for grabs if you help me connect to the network that until recently i had no issue connecting to. using a mac. :)
[10:58] <nikitha> im unable to see  folder created with windows 7 under ubuntu 14.04 on external driver. at the same time i could able see files but not folders, please guide
[11:01] <OerHeks> nikitha, you created folder and files with ubuntu on a windows 7 drive? and in windows you cannot see the folder?
[11:01] <OerHeks> the issue is not clear to me
[11:01] <supaplex> i think he means drive, not driver
[11:02] <nikitha> OerHeks: other way round, i accessed external driver and created folders and files in windows 7, under ubuntu im unable see folders, externam driver showing the consumed space
[11:03] <OerHeks> nikitha, oh oke, in nautilus, hit ctrl + h to see hidden files/folders
[11:04] <rubiksmomo> Is there any good alternative to Unison for 2-way syncing local directory with FTP directory? When it tries to add new files to server, it fails to rename the temp files cause they are missing from server.
[11:05] <nikitha> OerHeks: tried 'hidden files' option still im unable to see
[11:06] <nikitha> OerHeks: i got pen driver also , so i check both pen drive, external driver  formatted type but show as hpfs/ntfs then how cum im unable to see ext drive folder where as in pen drive i could see
[11:07] <OerHeks> nikita ahhhh hpfs ... that is not standard supported, see http://askubuntu.com/questions/246899/how-to-automount-hpfs-ntfs-exfat-64gb-microsd-card-on-10-04
[11:08] <OerHeks> ntfs is, fat32 too, but hpfs is a prop. format
[11:08] <OerHeks> carefull with writing to it, you might damage the filesystem
[11:13] <OerHeks> nikitha, don't use that ppa, from 12.04 and up :   sudo apt-get install exfat-fuse exfat-utils
[11:18] <borw3> Dayumn!!! I think I just f***ed up my Ubuntu. Now when I try to apt-get anything I get this error:
[11:18] <borw3> Dayumn!!! I think I just f***ed up my Ubuntu. Now when I try to apt-get anything I get this error:      E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[11:18] <borw3> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty_main_i18n_Translation-en
[11:19] <ikonia> borw3: tone down the language, there is no need for it, nor is it welcome
[11:19] <borw3> ikonia: help me out, whenever I apt-get anything I get this:  Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty_main_i18n_Translation-en
[11:20] <ikonia> borw3: someone else in the channel will help you
[11:23] <OerHeks> borw3, seems like your lists are corrupted, see http://askubuntu.com/a/30199
[11:23] <shaz> Hi, Can we use the default u-boot in eMMC to boot kernel from SD card by overriding bootcmd in uEnv.txt? I am using BB-black.
[11:28] <borw3> OerHeks: solved the problem thanks
[11:29] <OerHeks> borw3, great, have fun!
[11:36] <poolson> hey can anyone help me with kernel modules.  im kind of new to that kind of thing and wondering how to approach getting a kernel module int my system?
[11:37] <poolson> specifically a spi module for this little embedded thing.
[11:38] <mcphail> poolson: if it is an "out of tree" module there isn't a standard way and you need to refer to the module's documentation.
[11:38] <Fuchs> poolson: usually:  1) get the sources for your current kernel (or header files)  2) compile the module and install it  (usually with ./(configure, make, sudo make install, most do come with a readme)  3) load module  (with modprobe)    then you know whether it worked
[11:39] <Fuchs> to do things properly, you should create a .deb and add the module to dkms, so it is re-built every time you get a new kernel. Else you have to do that manually after each kernel update
[11:40] <poolson> hmmm
[11:40] <poolson> shiiit !@
[11:40] <boodllebat> i recently wrote a widget for ubuntu it has some glitches anybody wanna join https://github.com/argunner/StickFace
[11:40] <mcphail> poolson: also check to see if the module is included in the upstream kernel tree. It can save you a lot of problems if it has been included upstream
[11:45] <nikitha> OerHeks: hi, installed sudo apt-get install exfat-utils exfat-fuse           as advised still uanble to windows 7 folders under ubuntu ...
[11:47] <poolson> mcphail ill get right on that ! ;)
[11:48] <borw3> Can I ask is there any way I can update ubuntu via socks and not http?
[11:50] <wirher> Hello everybody. I have a problem with installing Qt5 designer on Ubuntu utopic. I have installed "qttools5-dev" package from repository and I still don't have qt5 designer on my PC (or I just can't find it). Do you happen to know what is wrong with that?
[11:51] <poolson> just googled for thsi
[11:51] <poolson> http://askubuntu.com/questions/35223/syntax-for-socks-proxy-in-apt-conf
[11:51] <poolson> that was for borw3
[11:52] <nikitha> OerHeks:  should i need to go back win 7 and access external drive hpfs/ntfs , copy  all content into hdd and format again ext drive with ntfs and put back content back onto external, is this only solution ?
[11:54] <boodllebat> i recently wrote a widget for ubuntu /Gnome /GTk /Unity . I have zero followers on Github and zero forks on repo but i'm trying , Project  has some glitches anybody wanna join https://github.com/argunner/StickFace Take a look though thanks
[11:54] <Fuchs> boodllebat: would you mind advertising a bit less here? actually "not at all" would be nice.
[11:55] <cfhowlett> boodllebat, ubuntu-offtopic for this perhaps
[11:55] <boodllebat> Fuchs: oh i'm sorry if that was annoying i would not do that again
[11:56] <boodllebat> Fuchs: i need review of widget can you take a look
[11:56] <Fuchs> boodllebat: no.
[11:56] <boodllebat> Fuchs: hmm that's fine
[11:56] <harish_> i changed hosts(/etc/hosts) settings for facebook.com and redirected it to <IP_ADDRESS>(localhost) and it worked, now i reverted the changes but still i redirects to localhost not actual facebook site
[11:56] <harish_> please helo
[11:56] <harish_> please help
[11:57] <pepperton> Hey folks, anyone here have experience theming Grub2? I've been working on one,  while it works, it prompts a terminal after an entry selection. Here's an example:  http://i.imgur.com/sJdDjbR.jpg Any idea what is happening here?
[11:57] <Ben64> harish_: you might need to restart the browser
[11:57] <harish_> ben64 i have already tried that
[11:58] <harish_> still its not working
[11:58] <Ben64> then you didn't fix /etc/hosts
[11:59] <harish_> at first i commented the setting in hosts file, it did not work and then i removed respective line then also it is not working
[12:00] <cfhowlett> harish_, I'm not sure restarting the browswer alone will reset the network DNS.  disconnect/reconnect to the network and test
[12:00] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:00] <Ben64> cfhowlett: its not dns, its the hosts file
[12:01] <harish_> ok
[12:01] <cfhowlett> Ben64, doh!  (but same theory ...)
[12:01] <cfhowlett> ?
[12:01] <harish_> still not working :(
[12:01] <Ben64> eh, works in a different way
[12:02] <harish_> cfhowlett still not working :(
[12:02] <Ben64> theres 3 options here. 1. hosts file isn't correct 2. browser needs to be restarted properly 3. there is something else going on, dns or something
[12:02] <BluesKaj> resolv.conf ?
[12:02] <Ben64> 3 is easy to test using "host facebook.com" and seeing if it returns <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:03] <harish_> hosts file looks like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/9755383/
[12:03] <Ben64> why do you have ::8080
[12:04] <harish_> just playing with apache tomcat
[12:04] <Ben64> the hosts file does not work like that
[12:04] <harish_> should i remove it
[12:04] <Ben64> yes
[12:04] <harish_> i removed those line but still i cant connect to facebook.com
[12:05] <cfhowlett> harish_, from what country?
[12:05] <harish_> india
[12:05] <Ben64> then you need to do #2 properly
[12:05] <harish_> #2 ??
 theres 3 options here. 1. hosts file isn't correct 2. browser needs to be restarted properly 3. there is something else going on, dns or something
[12:06] <harish_> ok
[12:06] <Ben64> guaranteed way is to restart the computer
[12:06] <harish_> let me check it all over again
[12:19] <xdhjixdhsd> ciao ^_^
[12:20] <xdhjixdhsd> i am experiencing a problem with the installation of ubuntu 14.04 on an old computer. the video freezes after i press "try ubuntu without installing"
[12:21] <xdhjixdhsd> what can I do?
[12:22] <BluesKaj> xdhjixdhsd, how old is the pc?
[12:22] <xdhjixdhsd> 2003
[12:22] <pksadiq> Is it possible to connect two dsl modems via dsl port?
[12:23] <xdhjixdhsd> now it is connected via wifi
[12:23] <OerHeks> pksadiq, no, besides it is not an ubuntu issue
[12:23] <Digit> i heard rumour, amazon might buy canonical.  any chance?  or wild click-bait speculation?
[12:24] <cfhowlett> Digit, clickbait
[12:24] <rodrigograca31_> why would amazon buy canonical? what would it do with it?
[12:24] <BluesKaj> !lubuntu |xdhjixdhsd
[12:25] <rodrigograca31_> Digit: why would amazon buy canonical? what would it do with it?
[12:25] <xdhjixdhsd> BluesKaj I already tried Xubuntu, without success. will i be more lucky with lubuntu?
[12:25] <cfhowlett> rodrigograca31_, off-topic discussion
[12:25] <BluesKaj> xdhjixdhsd, perhaps
[12:25] <Ben64> xdhjixdhsd: depending on the cpu, you may not be able to use 14.04
[12:25] <no_gravity> Hello! I connected a new mouse to my computer but the mouse cursor does not move. What can I do to diagnose the issue further?
[12:26] <cfhowlett> no_gravity, check batteries
[12:26] <OerHeks> no_gravity, what connector, ps/2 ?
[12:26] <xdhjixdhsd> Ben64 it comes with a pentium 4
[12:26] <no_gravity> cfhowlett: it has no batteries. its via usb cable.
[12:26] <no_gravity> OerHeks: usb
[12:27] <Digit> was just one of the "predictions" in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZUWVSSjWK4 erm, sometime close to 50 minutes in.  (btw, great free software advocacy video at start worth seeing too)
[12:27] <rodrigograca31_> no_gravity: use anothe USB port?
[12:27] <Ben64> xdhjixdhsd: pentium 4 covers a very wide range of stuff
[12:27] <OerHeks> no_gravity, oke, what mouse?
[12:27] <Ben64> Digit: still not appropriate for this channel
[12:27] <no_gravity> rodrigograca31_: tried them all
[12:27] <OerHeks> Digit, this is technical support only, join #ubuntu-offtopic please
[12:27] <no_gravity> OerHeks: i think its called "rapoo"
[12:28] <Ben64> no_gravity: plug it in, then pastebin the output of "dmesg | tail -n20"
[12:28] <Digit> o_O  oh.  ok.  didnt know where would have been apropriate for an ubuntu related question.  thnx.
[12:28] <OerHeks> no_gravity, is is plugged in an usb3 port?
[12:28] <BluesKaj> xdhjixdhsd, huw much RAM?
[12:28] <xdhjixdhsd> so, can't i install normal ubuntu or xubuntu on this pc? now it is running ubuntu 11.04 smoothly. i want to upgrade only for the support
[12:28] <Ben64> xdhjixdhsd: you can try 12.04
[12:28] <xdhjixdhsd> 512 mb
[12:29] <cfhowlett> xdhjixdhsd, try lubuntu 12.04
[12:29] <no_gravity> OerHeks: how do i find out what kind of usb port it is?
[12:29] <xdhjixdhsd> thank you all :)
[12:29] <Ben64> usb 3 ports have >4 wires in them
[12:29] <OerHeks> no_gravity, maybe the manual of your machine can tell
[12:30] <Ben64> a pastebin of dmesg would really help though...
[12:30] <no_gravity> Ben64: http://pastebin.com/4sQkPizu
[12:30] <BluesKaj> xdhjixdhsd, lubuntu 14.04 should run fine
[12:30] <Ben64> no_gravity: there you go, its not working
[12:31] <xdhjixdhsd> so, after 2017, i won't able to install most recent releases?
[12:31] <no_gravity> Ben64: you mean its a broken device?
[12:31] <Ben64> xdhjixdhsd: likely, you should upgrade hardware by then
[12:31] <Ben64> no_gravity: try it on a different computer, but possibly
[12:31] <no_gravity> Ben64: ok, one moment
[12:32] <xdhjixdhsd> I own a new pc, this one is my aunt's PC. i'm gonna try lubuntu. thanks. bye
[12:33] <BluesKaj> let me rephrase , xdhjixdhsd lubuntu 14.04 should run fine with 512RAM and pentium 4
[12:35] <xdhjixdhsd> my problem with ubuntu 14.04 is that the installation process doesn't start, even if the minimum requirement is respected. maybe some drivers are missing. I hope that the installation process with lubuntu 14.04 would start
[12:35] <SleepersTide> Can you, in a laptop with two SSDs, run a hypervisor and both Windows and Ubuntu, have a shared partition on the larger SSD which both swap to (in swapfiles); one OS is host and the other swaps over network?
[12:35] <no_gravity> Ben64: doesnt work on another computer as well. to hell with the device then.
[12:36] <OerHeks> xdhjixdhsd, pentium4 does not support PAE, i think that is your issue
[12:36] <OerHeks> only lubuntu 14,04 does
[12:37] <xdhjixdhsd> ok, got it
[12:37] <natou> I have this message when grub starts ubuntu "Network interface NamePolicy= disabled on kernel command line, ignoring" I found a thread about it from an arch linux forum but I'm not sure what this is all about
[12:38] <cfhowlett> xdhjixdhsd, It's 2015.  upgrade your computer and hand down your current to Aunty!
[12:38] <mcphail> cfhowlett: he may need the P4 to heat his house
[12:39] <cfhowlett> mcphail, lol!  good one!
[12:39] <saju_m> hi
[12:39] <mcphail> to be fair, ubuntu runs well on AMD processors of that era
[12:41] <saju_m> looking for a good laptop to install ubuntu 14.04, Please suggest one model, (8GB, i7)
[12:42] <saju_m> I want to run at least 3 virtual machines in my laptop for my work
[12:42] <OerHeks> !hcl
[12:42] <cfhowlett> saju_m, www.dell.com/developer
[12:42] <natou> anyone for my "Network interface NamePolicy= disabled on kernel command line, ignoring" problem?
[12:43] <saju_m> i found one model Asus X550LC-XX223D,  but that has touchpad issue,   is it fixable
[12:44] <mcphail> saju_m: it is fairly unlikely anyone will ahve that specific laptop and be activce on here at this point in time. That would be a better question for a forum
[12:44] <saju_m> see, I am working on openstack, so looking for a powerfull laptop which runs ubuntu smoothly
[12:45] <saju_m> ok
[12:45] <natou> and Why is unity remplacing my firefox icon with a grey rectangle when it crashes for example?
[12:45] <DJones> saju_m: I bought a Lenovo Y510P about 12 months ago, I've not had any issues with that, everything has worked out if the box with 14.04 onwards
 please send me the forum link
, thanks
[12:47] <cfhowlett> saju_m, http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/desktop/
[12:51] <Industrial> Hi.
[12:51] <Industrial> How do I get Flash player working in Chromium on Ubuntu?
[12:51] <Industrial> I tried "pepperflashplugin-nonfree"
[12:51] <Industrial> but Chrome (pandora.com) still tells me I don't have the plugin
[12:52] <Industrial> nvm that, needed a full restart
[12:53] <OerHeks> Industrial, after installing pepperflash, did you perform step #2 ? sudo update-pepperflashplugin-nonfree --install >>> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/06/install-pepper-flash-chromium-ubuntu-14-04
[12:53] <OerHeks> uh
[12:58] <maia> hello folks
[13:01] <OerHeks> hi maia
[13:07] <blehbleh> Hi
[13:07] <PowerPenguin> Hi.   I am trying to find a usb wifi device that will work with Ubuntu 14.10 server.    The two I have tried so far did not work.   Once I installed extra drivers one dongle almost worked.    The documentation I have been able to find is very out of date, and not any of the dongles listed are for sale in Europe at this time it seems.
[13:08] <blehbleh> I am currently testing MAAS (https://maas.ubuntu.com/) and experience a weird issue
[13:09] <blehbleh> One of the step involves downloading PXE bootable images and apparently a copy of some Ubuntu packages
[13:09] <blehbleh> however this steps fails with:
[13:09] <blehbleh> # sudo maas-import-pxe-files
[13:09] <blehbleh> ValueError: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz failed checksum.
[13:10] <blehbleh> Now, I would blame a network error, faulty disk or else, ..
[13:10] <instigator> Hello. I know how to change the modified date of a file using the touch command, but i am not sure how to change the date that the file was created
[13:10] <blehbleh> execept that I can confirm by downloading manualy the file
[13:11] <fmcarreiro> hello everyone. How to install printserver linksys WPSM54G in ubuntu 14.10? thanks
[13:11] <blehbleh> MD5 checksums are available from http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/Release
[13:12] <ram_> how cani use whats app in ubunti any idea please
[13:13] <OerHeks> ram_, not, as you need a phonenumber
[13:13] <blehbleh> curl --silent http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  => 6b10830e8fb4e68b5c034b8e9c73d44e (does not match the Release file)
[13:13] <blehbleh> howver, if I try with let say Packages.bz2:
[13:14] <blehbleh> curl --silent http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2  => 2d70f3b18f96dabe7449903bd067041f (matches the Release file)
[13:14] <ram_> ubuntu file system name
[13:14] <blehbleh> is it me missing something (or goind mad), or can someone confirm the issue ?
[13:15] <bobdobbs> hey guys. I'm running 12.04 with two monitors from a single nvidia video card. I'm running two x displays, but the background of the rightmost monitor is stark white and seemingly impossible to change
[13:16] <bobdobbs> On the rightmost display, if I try to change the background image or color using a gnome display setting, it sets the leftmost monitor instead
[13:16] <bobdobbs> I think I've borked some x thing up
[13:16] <theadmin> blehbleh: If you are getting hash mismatch issues with APT, do sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* and try again.
[13:16] <OerHeks> bobdobbs, use the monitor settings on the monitor itself? colour-temp most likely
[13:17] <bobdobbs> OerHeks: I'm pretty sure it's ubuntu/gnome. Cos everything is normal on the monitors when I start up ubuntu, right up until the desktop environment loads
[13:17] <bobdobbs> OerHeks: this applies to both gnome and kde
[13:17] <refj> What is the current status of Ubuntu bug reports in launchpad? Are the developers so overburdened that they have stopped acknowledging bug reports? I ask because no one has looked at bug report I filed 2 months ago. How to escalate a bug report?
[13:18] <mgedmin> refj, basically, yes
[13:18] <mgedmin> refj, link to the bug?
[13:19] <bobdobbs> OerHeks: like, if I log out so that the 'log in' screen shows, both monitors look fine. They both have background images and colours
[13:19] <refj> mgedmin: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/1389754
[13:19] <mgedmin> bobdobbs, that could maybe be caused by different multi-monitor configurations (lightdm defaults to clone mode, the user session to extended desktop)?
[13:19] <bobdobbs> OerHeks: so then I log in. And while whichever desktop env is setting up... during the loading process, the displays to behave normalls
[13:20] <bobdobbs> but as soon as they load, the rightmost monitor presents a blank background
[13:20] <OerHeks> bobdobbs, 'normal' until the prop. driver kicks in ?
[13:20] <ygf> anybody?
[13:20] <bobdobbs> possibly. I suspectso
[13:21] <bobdobbs> mgedmin: yeah, I suspect that a multi-monitor config has something to do with it
[13:21] <ygf> anybody out there?
[13:21] <mcphail> OerHeks: the "proper" driver should already be loaded at the lightdm screen, though
[13:21] <cfhowlett> !ask | ygf, ask
[13:21] <bobdobbs> mgedmin: so I tried setting up 'twinview' from nvidia-settings... but I cant see the option in the nvidia settings gui!
[13:22] <bobdobbs> nvidia-settings does tell me that there are two monitors, each with it's own X display
[13:22] <OerHeks> mcphail, that is what i thought so too, i wonder why this occurs
[13:22] <erUs> hi
[13:22] <daniele_> hi
[13:23] <OerHeks> bobdobbs, check systemsettings > colour, does the monitors both have a profile?
[13:23] <bobdobbs> lets see...
[13:23] <bobdobbs> I very much suspect they do. checking...
[13:23] <OerHeks> bobdobbs, i had to setup them manually after install
[13:24] <bobdobbs> uhm, where is systemsettings in the gnome panel menu?
[13:25] <OerHeks> bobdobbs, in Unity it is standard on the left panel, dunno about gnome-panel
[13:25] <password2> Hi
[13:25] <lotuspsychje> !info classicmenu-indicator | bobdobbs
[13:26] <erUs> where can i find wifi connections
[13:26] <erUs> ?
[13:29] <bobdobbs> OerHeks: I don't think that the panel menu offers access to that setting