[11:46] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[17:22] <santa_> hi everyone
[17:22] <santa_> RikMills: small news from my front:
[17:23] <santa_> - graphs of ongoing britney migrations:
[17:23] <santa_> - http://tritemio-groomlake.duckdns.org/ka-iron-hand_reports/frameworks_archive/5.81_impish_proposed_migration.pdf
[17:23] <santa_> - http://tritemio-groomlake.duckdns.org/ka-iron-hand_reports/applications_archive/21.04.0_impish_proposed_migration.pdf
[17:25] <santa_> - I have been working on the upstream tarball handling of KA so tarball linking in build-area would work with "odd" packages including plasma-wayland-protocols, kdsoap and sddm
[17:25] <santa_> (I have some code here locally, but it's not finished yet)
[17:26] <santa_> thanks for your work on packaging :)


[13:56] <kblin> hi folks
[17:14] <Shane_Fagan> Im still being effected by https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/301755 on jaunty 64bit all updates installed.
[17:14] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 301755 in pulseaudio "Crackling noise after update to pulseaudio" [Low,Fix released]
[17:23] <Shane_Fagan> It isnt fixed on my computer. I have to kill pulseaudio and restart it to get it back working normally.
[20:53] <patapouf> Hi, I'm testing ubuntu 9.04 Alpha 6 and get screen corrupted.
[20:53] <patapouf> Do any body repport this problem ?
[21:07] <davmor2> patapouf: I don't think any one has seen this problem
[21:08] <patapouf> ok, thanks. I will reproduce the problem, and fill a bug repport ..


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[06:52] <bobo37773> acemeister: Hello.
[06:55] <TechnodicT_> Ways the discusion?
[06:56] <TechnodicT_> Hello room
[06:56] <bobo37773> TechnodicT_: hey
[06:57] <TechnodicT_> Hello ubuntu user!
[06:57] <bobo37773> Nope. Used to. What Ubuntu version?
[06:58] <TechnodicT_> 12.04 ltd ura?
[06:58] <bobo37773> ah okay
[06:58] <bobo37773> Why doesn't Ubuntu use a text boot instead of a grapical one? Seems pointless and endlessly problematic
[06:58] <TechnodicT_> U quit ubuntu?
[06:59] <bobo37773> yeah. using arch now probably switch to funtoo / gentoo soon
[06:59] <TechnodicT_> Arch is always the best one..
[07:00] <bobo37773> I used to think so but the more I learn about gentoo the more I am liking about it
[07:00] <TechnodicT_> Have used it for a while...but  needed a stable system so switched
[07:00] <bobo37773> used what? arch or gentoo?
[07:01] <TechnodicT_> Arch..+ kde
[07:01] <TechnodicT_> Gentoo couldn't even install..! Lol
[07:04] <TechnodicT_> ?
[07:05] <bobo37773> oh okay
[07:05] <bobo37773> I have had the opposite experience as you
[07:06] <TechnodicT_> As in?
[07:06] <bobo37773> my arch install has been much more stable then I remember ubuntu
[07:07] <bobo37773> sometimes there is special stuff you have to do but it is usually in the news feed
[07:07] <TechnodicT_> Yes..
[07:07] <TechnodicT_> Arch is still better than ubuntu...I guess
[07:08] <bobo37773> well I don't know. better is a pretty subjective word. but I like it more for sure
[07:09] <TechnodicT_> Yea
[07:09] <bobo37773> all the old computers I refubish I am using crunchbang though. really easy and pleasant experience
[07:11] <acemeister> hrey
[07:11] <bobo37773> hrey!
[07:11] <bobo37773> haha
[07:11] <acemeister> How is Ubuntu better than windows aside from the security?
[07:12] <acemeister> hi there
[07:12] <bobo37773> I did not switch to gnu/linux for better security. It was just an added benefit
[07:12] <bobo37773> I switched because of code transparency
[07:12] <acemeister> what added benefit?
[07:13] <acemeister> explain the code transperency please
[07:13] <acemeister> how's it better?
[07:13] <bobo37773> do you understand what closed and open source code means?
[07:14] <bobo37773> meaning you do not have to blindly trust that the application developers have your best interests in mind.
[07:14] <bobo37773> you can see the code yourself
[07:15] <bobo37773> I do not trust microsoft or apple
[07:15] <bobo37773> they are both in bed with those who would spy on and take advantage of me
[07:16] <bobo37773> for no real reason other than to further control and their own selfish ends
[07:16] <bobo37773> there is more to that story though.
[07:16] <bobo37773> I guess it's important to understand the beginning if you are to understand the end / present
[07:17] <bobo37773> Learn the origins of gnu/linux. Listen to people like richard stallman speak, etc.. You can find his videos on youtube and all over
[07:19] <bobo37773> but yes I would definitely say that the operating system is inherantly more secure on many levels.
[07:20] <bobo37773> To answer your question though more directly originally for me aircrack was all it took to get me to switch. when I realized this type of thing could never be done in windows because of how closed everything was I didn't look back
[07:20] <bobo37773> they have probably made some more progress in that area but that is only one small example
[07:21] <bobo37773> Why are you thinking about switching anyways? For security reasons?
[07:22] <bobo37773> No one can make up your mind for you.


[22:49] <mup> Issue operator#867 closed: socket.timeout is not wrapped in a pebble error and shows up in traceback <Created by sed-i> <Closed by benhoyt> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/issues/867>