[01:02] <mineur> but it all depends on the context :)
[01:02] <N6REJ> mineur: ok, let me show you.
[01:03] <N6REJ> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2400/
[01:03] <ruslan>    Kubuntu     mp3
[01:03] <N6REJ> !ru ruslan
[01:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ru ruslan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:04] <N6REJ> ruslan:  english only please
[01:04] <ruslan> i have open file mp3
[01:04] <ruslan> what?
[01:04] <mineur> hmm N6REJ then my thing is probably not right, hang on :)
[01:04] <johann> amarok ;)
[01:04] <N6REJ> mineur: k
[01:04] <mineur> however... what is ofbiz?
[01:05] <ruslan> amaron no open
[01:05] <ruslan> amarok no open
[01:05] <N6REJ> mineur its a java app... let me get you url... www.opentaps.org or www.ofbiz.org
[01:05] <ernz> Does anyone here use Amarok??
[01:05] <johann> yeah
[01:05] <mineur> try #amarok :)
[01:05] <mineur> and yes I use amarok
[01:05] <ernz> How do I add more stations?
[01:06] <ernz> All I have atm are "Cool stations" ... which are not cool.
[01:06] <mineur> I don't use streaming audio, sorry :)
[01:06] <N6REJ> mineur: does this look right? lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 40 2007-01-20 04:25 /etc/alternatives/java -> /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java
[01:08] <ibert> hi! is there a way to keep one instance of kate persistent like it is with konqueror?
[01:08] <mineur> yeha but I'm not sure you should include the jre/bin/java...
[01:09] <N6REJ> mineur: you want to see the full instructions?
[01:09] <N6REJ> https://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=4078323
[01:10] <mineur> I'd say what you have then is ok
[01:10] <mineur> brb, food
[01:10] <N6REJ> k
[01:10] <N6REJ> ty
[01:10] <N6REJ> wah?? where'd chkconfig go?
[01:13] <matt0507> i have process table opened and the User% column is how much cpu on computer is being used?
[01:14] <N6REJ> whats the debian eqv for chkconfig?
[01:15] <DeadS0ul> invoke-rc.d
[01:15] <Lynoure> matt0507: depends on how you got the process table. ps -l does not even have that column... neither does top (which is not a process table anaway)
[01:15] <N6REJ> DeadS0ul: ty
[01:15] <DeadS0ul> np
[01:16] <matt0507> thanks, anyone aware of jagging scrolling on konqueror? happens when i load  a page with many images on it, does not happen in firefox though.
[01:16] <DeadS0ul> N6REJ: np man
[01:17] <N6REJ> DeadS0ul: now just gotta figure out how to use it and wether I need it or update-rc.d
[01:17] <DeadS0ul> oh you're changing stuff?
[01:17] <DeadS0ul> i never go update-rc.d working right, the syntax was just too much for me
[01:17] <N6REJ> nah, I added a file to /etc/init.d and now I need to make it a service.
[01:18] <xenol> plz which software is used to clone disk partitions on linux?
[01:18] <N6REJ> !clone
[01:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:18] <N6REJ> bah
[01:18] <xenol> !disk backup
[01:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about disk backup - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:19] <xenol> any ideas with which software can i make clone of  partitions or disk backup?
[01:19] <N6REJ> !backup
[01:19] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[01:19] <xenol> wee thx
[01:19] <xenol> !cloning
[01:19] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type "dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages", move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type "sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade"
[01:19] <N6REJ> xenol yw
[01:19] <xenol> afk
[01:20] <N6REJ> DeadS0ul: this is what I'm trying to do... Once your done editing run "chkconfig --add ofbiz", "chkconfig ofbiz on", and finally "service ofbiz start"
[01:20] <blekos> hi, why ubuntu uses /media folder for mounted partitions and not /mnt??
[01:22] <Jucato> blekos: seems like a shift in the Linux Filesystem Heirarchy Standard...
[01:22] <DeadS0ul> N6REJ: yeah I think you can just go through update-rc.d's man page and set it up, there's one command that'll set'em up as default I think
[01:22] <N6REJ> DeadS0ul: k
[01:23] <blekos> is it a shift or it's just ubuntu?
[01:23] <DeadS0ul> and i thik default is making the service start at runlevel 2-5
[01:23] <DeadS0ul> blekos: i think it's pretty common
[01:23] <marc> i have a problem with CUPS: printing with lp doesn't work, printing with lpr does. i'd like to either change the default to lpr or fix lp, how do i do that?
[01:23] <N6REJ> DeadS0ul: yeah, ok.
[01:23] <blekos> ok i c
[01:24] <Jucato> blekos: recently it seems more and more distros are shifting. Mandriva is one or will be one
[01:25] <jamesarthur> hey, i'm trying to get sound in mepis 6.0 and it doesn't have alsaconf, how else can I get sound?? Please, a straight answer!
[01:25] <blekos> i'm asking cause i try to learn a few things about linux/ubuntu and such [welcomed]  changes confuse me a bit :)
[01:25] <Hobbsee> jamesarthur: have you tried #mepis?
[01:26] <Hobbsee> jamesarthur: maybe alsamixer
[01:26] <Jucato> hi Hobbsee!!
[01:26] <Hobbsee> hey Jucato
[01:26] <mortifera> you just do "lsof /dev/dsp"
[01:26] <mortifera> and see if works..
[01:27] <Jucato> mepis 6.0....
[01:27] <mortifera> it's for you james..
[01:27] <mortifera> but mepis isn't ubuntu man.
[01:28] <mortifera> ..
[01:28] <blekos> is there any application like dvd shrink 4 dvd ripping [selectins subtitles etc]
[01:28] <Jucato> it's based on Ubuntu Dapper though... but there's #mepislovers for that
[01:29] <mortifera> i'm using firefox32 over a 64 bits ubuntu.edgy and just can't get sound when using flashplayer...anyone can help me?
[01:29] <N6REJ> darn, another problem.
[01:29] <mortifera> by the way, i do see the video normally but without sound.
[01:30] <jamesarthur> i tried, but nothibg happens that i see
[01:31] <N6REJ> fixed! wheew
[01:31] <jamesarthur> all say alsaconf but it's not there
[01:31] <ibert> hi! is there a app like visualroute for kde?
[01:33] <jamesarthur> i'm in #mepis , no luck!
[01:33] <mortifera> ibert: are you trying to trace IPs?
[01:34] <Jucato> !traceroute
[01:34] <ubotu> traceroute: traces the route taken by packets over a TCP/IP network. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4a12-20 (edgy), package size 21 kB, installed size 104 kB
[01:34] <ibert> mortifera: yes. in general I do it in the shell, but sometimes I want to see a nice globe tracing the route...
[01:35] <ibert> ubotu: I use traceroute already. but for "show" reasons I'm looking for an gui with animation :-)
[01:35] <Jucato> ibert: ubotu is a bot :)
[01:35] <pablo7> blekos: have you tried k3b?
[01:35] <mortifera> there is" X trace route"
[01:35] <ibert> Jucato: oh, yes he told me :-)
[01:36] <mortifera> it works with all distribuitions
[01:36] <Jucato> heh :)
[01:37] <xenol> !backup
[01:37] <blekos> not really, didnt know it does that, i thought it was only for burning/ copying
[01:37] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[01:37] <xenol> !sbackup
[01:37] <ubotu> sbackup is a tool to create complete and/or incremental backups (which can be scheduled to be automatic, and can be done over a network). It is available in !Universe
[01:37] <ibert> !xtraceroute
[01:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xtraceroute - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:38] <mortifera> i'm using firefox32 over a 64 bits ubuntu.edgy and just can't get sound when using flashplayer...anyone can help me?
[01:38] <Jucato> !xt | ibert
[01:38] <ubotu> xt: A graphical traceroute. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.1-8 (edgy), package size 917 kB, installed size 1144 kB
[01:39] <Jucato> ibert: "apt-cache trace | grep route" might interest you
[01:39] <xenol> plz why i cant play .wmv video? it says umthing about when loading decoder or libraby : wmvdmod.dll
[01:39] <xenol> ?
[01:39] <ibert> Jucato: thanx
[01:39] <Jucato> xenol: you have installed w32codecs?
[01:39] <xenol> yep
[01:39] <xenol> i can play avi
[01:39] <xenol> but wmv no
[01:39] <Jucato> xenol: no that is different
[01:40] <xenol> sound goes playing
[01:40] <abattoir> mortifera: you have lib32asound2 installed?
[01:40] <Jucato> avi is handled by libxine-extracodecs
[01:40] <mortifera> xenol: try ti install VLC..
[01:40] <xenol> well i have booted linux after 2 weeks now
[01:40] <xenol> and got problem
[01:40] <xenol> mortifera:  i want to use kaffeine
[01:40] <tehpwn> I'm back!
[01:40] <matt0507> can anyone tell me how to add password to an archive file using Ark?
[01:40] <xenol> and it went with np then and now problems
[01:40] <ForgeAus> theres a suite you can get with ping, traceroute, and a few other tools
[01:40] <ForgeAus> but I forgot the name of it
[01:41] <xenol> !ping
[01:41] <ubotu> pong
[01:41] <xenol> lol
[01:41] <xenol> !traceroute
[01:41] <ubotu> traceroute: traces the route taken by packets over a TCP/IP network. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4a12-20 (edgy), package size 21 kB, installed size 104 kB
[01:41] <tehpwn> So what's the topics atm?
[01:41] <mortifera> you have to get  a codec for cafeine or use libwin32..
[01:41] <mortifera> and istall it all
[01:41] <Jucato> xenol: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs
[01:41] <xenol> thx
[01:41] <ibert> xenol: pong is a cool answer
[01:41] <xenol> i installed with that but
[01:41] <ForgeAus> hey Jucato
[01:41] <Jucato> xenol: are you on a 64-bit system?
[01:41] <Jucato> hi ForgeAus
[01:42] <xenol> 32
[01:42] <xenol> i will reinstall w32
[01:42] <ForgeAus> the VMware server I ended up d/ling was a version behind!
[01:42] <xenol> if that doesnt help will google for it
[01:42] <ForgeAus> its not a problem tho
[01:42] <ForgeAus> works and installs fine
[01:43] <tehpwn> I can't get my damn amaroK to support mp3's... I have installed gstreamer0.8-mad but that didn't help at all... And google is just telling me the same thing over and over basically...
[01:43] <ForgeAus> I wish there was an updater rather than having to install the next vers from scratch tho
[01:43] <xenol> time for me to leave bb
[01:44] <mortifera> abatoir: just did the install (lib32asound2), tks!
[01:44] <johann> tehpwn: install libxine-extracodec (multiverse)
[01:45] <tehpwn> K, I'll attempt it
[01:45] <ruslan> what install skype_debian-<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb   ???????HELP
[01:46] <matt0507> !ark
[01:46] <ubotu> ark: graphical archiving tool for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 287 kB, installed size 1004 kB
[01:46] <abattoir> mortifera: oh, good
[01:47] <matt0507> !zip
[01:47] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[01:47] <mortifera> abatoir: i 've got the sound! finally!! tks a lot!
[01:47] <ForgeAus> ahh well I could add .rar, .ice, .lha/lzh, .zoo, .arj, .arc and a few others to that list...
[01:48] <icet> hi, I use device sda (SATA) as my main HD, and I want to access my hda1 (IDE1) with a 120GB FAT partition, but /dev only sees hda, not hda1
[01:48] <tehpwn> johann, what do I add to the sources.list to get multiverse?
[01:48] <icet> windows can see the partition just fine
[01:48] <tehpwn> tehpwn, wait never mind i got it
[01:48] <johann> tehpwn: just add the line "deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe multiverse"
[01:48] <tehpwn> Lol, oops, meant johann
[01:49] <ba> hello
[01:49] <ForgeAus> you have to be root to edit it (although you can add lines in adept (which asks for your root pass on entry)
[01:49] <tehpwn> johann, then run apt-get update correct?
[01:49] <johann> yes
[01:49] <icet> any ideas to solve my problem?
[01:49] <tehpwn> awesome thanks
[01:49] <ForgeAus> yup apt-get update or apt-get install <pkgname> ...
[01:50] <matt0507> another newbie question: something said to work with GNOME so will it work in KDE?
[01:50] <ForgeAus> lotsa apt-get commands
[01:50] <abattoir> icet: if there is only one partition, it may well be just hda
[01:50] <matt0507> im thinking for using file-roller in kubuntu
[01:50] <abattoir> matt0507: yes, it should work
[01:50] <matt0507> abattoir: ty :)
[01:50] <abattoir> np :)
[01:50] <icet> but I'm not able to mount it, cfdisk recognizes hda1
[01:52] <tehpwn> tehpwn@tuxbox:~$ sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodec
[01:52] <tehpwn> Reading package lists... Done
[01:52] <tehpwn> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:52] <tehpwn> E: Couldn't find package libxine-extracodec
[01:52] <tehpwn> tehpwn@tuxbox:~$
[01:52] <icet> [ 1016.089844]  FAT: invalid media value (0xb9)
[01:52] <icet> [ 1016.089849]  VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev hda.
[01:52] <johann> libxine-extracodecs ,sorry
[01:53] <tehpwn> oh, hehe
[01:53] <tehpwn> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[01:53] <tehpwn> is only available from another source
[01:53] <tehpwn> E: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate
[01:53] <tehpwn> tehpwn@tuxbox:~$
[01:54] <johann> apt-get update
[01:54] <tehpwn> alread did
[01:54] <johann> sure?
[01:54] <tehpwn> yeah, i just did again to make sure
[01:54] <tehpwn> Yeah.. gave me the same error
[01:55] <johann> deb-src http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe multiverse
[01:55] <johann> add this one too
[01:55] <tehpwn> k
[01:55] <johann> -> apt-get update
[01:55] <Jucato> !multiverse | tehpwn
[01:55] <ubotu> tehpwn: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:56] <icet> any other suggestions?
[01:56] <tehpwn> Ok, I'll take a look.
[01:57] <tehpwn> Wow... It's already 4am here :(
[02:00] <ruslan> what install  skype_debian-<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb????
[02:00] <johann> dpkg -i skype_debian-<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb
[02:01] <abattoir> ruslan: rt. click ->Kubuntu Package Manager->Install Packagte
[02:01] <abattoir> *Package
[02:01] <blekos> i mad a back with using tar, then i did tar tzf to see the contents of the tar file, and now i have a 1GB less space...#
[02:01] <Jucato> !skype
[02:01] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[02:05] <blekos> i mad a back with using tar, then i did tar tzf to see the contents of the tar file, and now i have a 1GB less space... any ideas?
[02:06] <ruslan> Kubuntu but Windows XP ?
[02:06] <matt0507> !ntfs-3g
[02:06] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[02:07] <darkjoker> qualcuno sa dirmi come sbloccare adept manager...
[02:08] <Jucato> !it | darkjoker
[02:08] <ubotu> darkjoker: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:08] <darkjoker> ah ok....thanks
[02:08] <karmikaze> whats the flash plugin to get for firefox?
[02:09] <Jucato> karmikaze: flashplugin-nonfree
[02:09] <karmikaze> cheers
[02:09] <Jucato> works for both Konqueror and Firefox
[02:09] <ubuntu> flash 9 is out...
[02:10] <Jucato> yes.. unfortunately, Flash 9 Beta 2 is still the latest in the repos
[02:10] <karmikaze> ok
[02:10] <ubuntu> i've installed it manually
[02:10] <ubuntu> just 1 file..
[02:10] <karmikaze> yeah i did the manual install but youtube still isnt working
[02:10] <Jucato> true. but I'd rather it be done through the official repos...
[02:10] <karmikaze> weird
[02:10] <karmikaze> automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes
[02:14] <tehpwn> I'm having no luck with this...
[02:14] <tehpwn> I even reinstalled amarok
[02:19] <tehpwn> Anybody active?
[02:19] <tehpwn> :(
[02:20] <adaptr> sorry.. 319 deaf mute idiots in channel :)
[02:20] <karmikaze> lib-mpeg3
[02:20] <karmikaze> !mp3
[02:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:20] <Jucato> tehpwn: you couldn't install libxine-extracodecs?
[02:20] <tehpwn> nope
[02:20] <tehpwn> it's being super gay (no offense to anybody if they are gay)
[02:20] <Jucato> tehpwn: what is apt-get saying?
[02:21] <tehpwn> tehpwn@tuxbox:~$ sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[02:21] <tehpwn> Reading package lists... Done
[02:21] <tehpwn> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:21] <Jucato> tehpwn: use pastebin to show us your sources.list. you may not have the correct repositories
[02:21] <tehpwn> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[02:21] <Jucato> !pastebin | tehpwn
[02:21] <ubotu> tehpwn: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:21] <tehpwn> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[02:21] <tehpwn> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[02:21] <tehpwn> or been moved out of Incoming.
[02:21] <tehpwn> Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
[02:21] <tehpwn> the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
[02:21] <tehpwn> that package should be filed.
[02:21] <tehpwn> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[02:22] <adaptr> !kickban the fckr
[02:22] <tehpwn> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[02:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kickban the fckr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:22] <Jucato> tehpwn: next time, use pastebin if you need to show multiple lines
[02:22] <tehpwn>   libxine-extracodecs: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.4-1) but 2.3.6-0ubuntu20 is to be installed
[02:22] <tehpwn> E: Broken packages
[02:22] <tehpwn> tehpwn@tuxbox:~$
[02:22] <tehpwn> (sorry for the spam hehe)
[02:22] <tehpwn> ok ok
[02:22] <tehpwn> yeah, iv been told :)
[02:22] <adaptr> then DON'T, buckethead
[02:23] <Jucato> adaptr: once he pasted it, there's no way to stop it
[02:23] <tehpwn> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2407/
[02:23] <adaptr> Jucato: hmm... okay, bad client then
[02:23] <tehpwn> adaptr, that's a good band
[02:23] <abattoir> adaptr: chill.
[02:24] <Jucato> adaptr: not really. on his end, it's just one big paste. to us, it looks like successive multiple lines
[02:24] <adaptr> I am *not* chill ! I tried starting kdm again today and it never got anywhere.. back on gdm/gnome, because at least that works
[02:24] <adaptr> Jucato: yes, but it's a client-server architecture - somebody somewhere can influence his traffic, be it the freenode server or his irc client
[02:24] <abattoir> adaptr: ok, that doesn't mean you need to go around calling people names :)
[02:25] <abattoir> adaptr: you tried executing 'kdm' manually?
[02:25] <tehpwn> So ummm?
[02:25] <tehpwn> lol
[02:25] <Jucato> tehpwn: removes lines 18 and 19
[02:25] <adaptr> and if his irc client offers no method of stopping something that's run out of hand....
[02:25] <Jucato> tehpwn: you're mixing edgy repositories into Dapper
[02:25] <adaptr> abattoir: I started with dpkg-reconfigure kdm and restarting X - that failed
[02:26] <tehpwn> Jucato, ok
[02:26] <abattoir> adaptr: any particular errors?
[02:26] <adaptr> abattoir: then I tried to manually set kdm to start instead o gdm, and restarted X - still nothing
[02:26] <Jucato> tehpwn: then, in lines 16 and 17, add teh word "multiverse" at the end
[02:26] <tehpwn> kk
[02:26] <Jucato> tehpwn: once you're done, sudo apt-get update then try installing
[02:26] <tehpwn> kk
[02:27] <adaptr> abattoir: lastly I rebooted and got kdm, then logged in and got...kdm, logged in, got kdm, logged in, got kdm. so now I'm logged into Gnome again, because - at least *that works* :)
[02:27] <adaptr> like I said
[02:28] <tehpwn> Jucato, and i replacing universe with multivers? or just adding multiverse?
[02:28] <Jucato> tehpwn: just add. don't replace
[02:28] <tehpwn> ok
[02:29] <tehpwn> Whooo! It's going! (knocks on wood)
[02:29] <abattoir> adaptr: after you ran 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm' , and run 'startx' it starts gdm instead of kdm?
[02:30] <abattoir> adaptr: both gdm and kdm can launch GNOME and KDE
[02:30] <tehpwn> Ok, it installed but amarok still wont play the mp3
[02:31] <Jucato> tehpwn: what do you get when you try to play an MP3?
[02:31] <Jucato> tehpwn: make sure that Amarok is using the xine engine
[02:31] <tehpwn> How?
[02:31] <tehpwn> Jucato, Yeah it's using the xine engine
[02:32] <Jucato> hm..
[02:32] <tehpwn> (that's the only option)
[02:32] <Jucato> tehpwn: try restarting amarok?
[02:32] <tehpwn> Yeah, did like 20 time :-p
[02:32] <Jucato> O.o
[02:33] <tehpwn> Jucato!!!! It's working!!!
[02:33] <tehpwn> Woooooot!
[02:33] <Jucato> O.O
[02:33] <Jucato> you're confusing me... @_@
[02:33] <tehpwn> IDK, it just started working after restarting it again
[02:33] <nuke13> hi all
[02:34] <nothlit> adaptr, you don't restart x, you sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop && sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[02:34] <tehpwn> Jucato, You officially own... Yeah.
[02:34] <Jucato> yay!!
[02:35] <tehpwn> lol
[02:35] <tehpwn> you can stick them on your monitor.. lol
[02:35] <Jucato> heh.. that would make me look like a monkey...
[02:35] <nuke13> lol
[02:36] <tehpwn> or if you have younger siblings... they might be interested
[02:36] <tehpwn> lol
[02:36] <Jucato> heh :)
[02:37] <tehpwn> Next step is putting my windows hdd in here and transfering all of my music over
[02:37] <tehpwn> i'll be bak!
[02:40] <esaym> is there any kind of analog clock for the task bar?
[02:40] <mineur[food] > yes
[02:40] <esaym> oh yea?
[02:40] <mineur[food] > right click on the clock...
[02:40] <mineur[food] > configure
[02:40] <mineur[food] > then clock type
[02:41] <stdin> or Right click clock -> type -> analogue
[02:41] <mineur[food] > ok, that's shorter :p
[02:41] <esaym> hmm
[02:41] <esaym> DIdn't know about that
[02:41] <esaym> selecting that removes the date though
[02:42] <mineur> you can add 2 times the clock applet if you like...
[02:42] <esaym> anyway to get the hands anti aliased so they are smoooooth lol
[02:43] <esaym> oh heck there is an option for that
[02:43] <esaym> pretty!
[02:48] <heinkel_111> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?board=55.0
[02:48] <heinkel_111> my authentication system is broken, how do i work around that?
[03:04] <parsek> When I play video using vlc and X11 output module in fullscreen I see edges on everywhere like there wasnt antialiasing or something like that, how could I fix this?
[03:05] <blekos> can i delete everything in the temp fdirectory
[03:05] <blekos> ?
[03:05] <Jucato> blekos: usually /tmp is cleaned at boot
[03:05] <blekos> i c
[03:05] <blekos> thnx
[03:08] <heinkel_111> if i reformat my / partition, will i loose any personal information (/home/ is on another partition) that will be hard to recover?
[03:09] <heinkel_111> or can i reformat root, reinstall programs not in default kubuntu and then just live happily ever after?
[03:12] <Racchio> Hi there! I have two sound cards on my desktop pc: an onboard one and a PCI one. They both works nice but ARTS uses just one of these (the onboard one). There's any way to tell ARTS to use both or to use the PCI one? Thanks :)
[03:15] <tehpwn> Ok, I'm pissed srsly
[03:15] <Jucato> ??
[03:15] <tehpwn> I restarted the computer, and the wireless isn't working again
[03:15] <Jucato> oh... something I can't help you with... sorry
[03:15] <tehpwn> Damn
[03:15] <tehpwn> But the mp3 works :)
[03:16] <tehpwn> so thats good
[03:16] <Xera> f*ck
[03:17] <Jucato> O.o
[03:17] <tehpwn> brb, going to restart pc
[03:17] <slow-motion> hallo
[03:19] <mineur> !et
[03:19] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[03:20] <Xera> is firefox2 in the repos yet?
[03:20] <LjL> Xera: it's most certainly in Edgy
[03:20] <Xera> hmm
[03:20] <Xera> need to upgrade to edgy ;p
[03:20] <voicu> when i try to drag some songs in the playlist, amarok freezes and i get the output (in konsole) "Xlib: unexpected async reply (sequence 0x25f8e)"
[03:21] <voicu> i tried reinstalling amarok
[03:21] <voicu> this is happening since i added some new files in the collection directory
[03:22] <stdin> Xera: it's in backports too
[03:22] <Xera> meh
[03:22] <Xera> i'll just install it myself
[03:22] <voicu> at that point i got errors that were saying amarok can't play that files
[03:22] <tehpwn> Anybody here good with wireless?
[03:22] <voicu> i rescaned the collection and this crap is now happening
[03:22] <voicu> any ideas?
[03:23] <Xera> Need to get 195MB of archives.
[03:23] <Xera> After unpacking 5276kB of additional disk space will be used
[03:23] <Xera> wth
[03:23] <Xera> how does that make sence?
[03:23] <Xera> 195mb download, only 5mb is gonna be used?
[03:23] <distro-tester> hello i nead back the wike where tells u how to add universal servers to adept Xera
[03:23] <Xera> sense*
[03:24] <distro-tester> wiki*
[03:24] <distro-tester> it*
[03:24] <voicu> Xera, you are upgrading, therefore some files will be replaced
[03:24] <Xera> voicu: ah, ty ;p
[03:24] <Xera> lucky my internet isn't going as slow as yesterday
[03:25] <distro-tester> any one has the ubuntu wiki where tells u how to ad universal server to repository?
[03:25] <distro-tester> in adept
[03:25] <Xera> i was getting 5kb/s dl speeds, i rang up my isp and they said "We don't provide support for the linux operating system, we recommend you install windows."
[03:25] <voicu> i would settle for a slower internet connection if only amarok would work :(
[03:25] <voicu> haha
[03:25] <Xera> at which point i promptly started to shout down the phone. XD
[03:25] <distro-tester> Xera u got them?
[03:25] <Xera> got what?
[03:26] <Xera> oh
[03:26] <distro-tester> the site where tells u how to add server to adept
[03:26] <Xera> sec
[03:26] <voicu> i got that thing too from the isp, apparently they are scared of linux routers...
[03:26] <distro-tester> thanx
[03:26] <Xera> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories?action=show&redirect=AddingRepositoriesHowto
[03:26] <stdin> somewhere is your ISP system is a linux box
[03:26] <Jucato> Xera: are you trying to upgrade from Dapper to Edgy?
[03:26] <Xera> Jucato: no
[03:27] <distro-tester> can u link me the drivers for nvidia 7900GS Xera i can intall here?
[03:27] <Jucato> k
[03:27] <distro-tester> if they ever exist ahah hi jucato
[03:27] <Xera> distro-tester: no, sorry
[03:27] <tehpwn> Ok, I suck at wireless so I'm moving on...
[03:27] <tehpwn> time to google windows partition mounting
[03:27] <parsek> when is the kub. 7.04 (final) released
[03:27] <Jucato> distro-tester: there are no individual drivers for NVIDIA cards. most are supported by the nvidia-glx driver pakcage
[03:27] <BluesKaj> !wireless
[03:27] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:27] <stdin> parsek: it isn't released yet
[03:28] <Theory> parsek: the clue is in the name
[03:28] <Jucato> parsek: as the name says. 7.04 (2007 April)
[03:28] <Theory> year.month
[03:28] <esaym> whats the deal with num lock and kde?  Is there a quick fix to get it to stay on at boot up?
[03:28] <stdin> parsek: 7.04 = 2007/04
[03:28] <parsek> :)
[03:28] <Xera> esaym: should be an option in your bios
[03:28] <parsek> hey thats where they get the names :)
[03:28] <esaym> yes it is enabled
[03:28] <Jucato> esaym: System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Keyboard ?
[03:29] <esaym> was always on in windows but now in kubuntu i have to turn it on
[03:29] <distro-tester> well jucato there must be a problem whit linux and my nviDIA 7900GS couse even whit nvida drivers from automatix my eyes hurt and im 1024x768 60hz now whit lcd 17 as i all ways been on xp maby my card is not supported
[03:29] <esaym> thanks i will look right quick
[03:29] <voicu> holy damn, that's is why they are called X.04 and X.10?
[03:29] <Jucato> voicu: the one that will come after feisty will be 7.10
[03:29] <esaym> ok there is an option for it.  I will see if it works on next boot up
[03:29] <esaym> thanks!
[03:29] <distro-tester> i feel like a sense of nausea and eyes hurting now strange
[03:30] <Jucato> esaym: it will only work *after* you login to KDE
[03:30] <jiger> hey does anyone know how to change just the password in pppoe if using bridge mode?
[03:30] <distro-tester> ahha would be funny if i have to get back to xp for my video card
[03:30] <Jucato> esaym: meaning it will still be off in the login screen
[03:30] <esaym> well thats fine I think
[03:31] <distro-tester> so what u advise here jucato?
[03:31] <distro-tester> go back to xp?
[03:31] <BluesKaj> hmm strange , I prefer 1024x768 for my 17" flat scrn crt , of course i'm using 75hz ...that gets rid of most flickering
[03:31] <distro-tester> it's real strange linux drivers are not out yet for my card as 8800 has them
[03:31] <voicu> what the hell, amarok says "the media couldn't be added to the playlist because it's not playable"... what is that supposed to mean (except the obvious)
[03:31] <Jucato> distro-tester: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" doesn't work? I'm not really familiar with LCD's
[03:32] <voicu> the file is right there and mp3 support is working
[03:32] <distro-tester> ahah if i knew what u speaking of maby u know im 1 times on linux
[03:32] <distro-tester> but im scared this card is not compatible whit linux yet
[03:33] <distro-tester> any one using nvidia 7900GS here ?
[03:33] <Jucato> distro-tester: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" will reconfigure (as thename suggests) your xorg settings, letting you choose different options like resolution refresh rate, etc.
[03:33] <distro-tester> ok ill try
[03:35] <tehpwn> How do I know if I'm running dapper or edgy? And what the heck are they anyways?
[03:35] <distro-tester> wich is the more secure irc client btw for your advise btw kvirc?
[03:36] <Xera> use konversation
[03:36] <Xera> lol
[03:36] <distro-tester> what does it have better then others xera just curius
[03:36] <Jucato> distro-tester: konversation and connect using port 8001 instead of the default 667
[03:37] <Xera> Jucato: why 8001?
[03:37] <parsek> why?
[03:37] <voicu> because it's less evil?
[03:37] <Jucato> Xera: disables DCC
[03:37] <Xera> lol
[03:37] <parsek> :)
[03:37] <Xera> so what's up with dcc?
[03:37] <distro-tester> that's cool
[03:37] <Jucato> er.. default is 6667
[03:37] <distro-tester> does it have ssl?
[03:37] <Xera> it's just like msn send files
[03:37] <Xera> and, who the heck is worried about virusses in linux? :D
[03:37] <Jucato> scripts?
[03:38] <Xera> they can't do much damage
[03:38] <Xera> 1: permissions 2: don't be stupid enough to run it
[03:38] <Jucato> he was asking for "safe"
[03:38] <Xera> nobody but the person who sets the root password knows it
[03:38] <distro-tester> what about ssl does conversation support them?
[03:38] <Jucato> IRC doesn't have SSL afaik
[03:39] <parsek> what does the ssl even do btw?
[03:39] <Xera> secure connection
[03:39] <distro-tester> 128 bit
[03:39] <Xera> encryption etc
[03:39] <distro-tester> 64 256b depends
[03:39] <distro-tester> ok my eyes seem to be better now
[03:39] <parsek> should i change to a server that supports it?
[03:39] <Xera> parsek: newb
[03:39] <Xera> lol
[03:40] <voicu> !demux
[03:40] <Xera> this channel is on irc.freenode.net, no other..
[03:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about demux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:40] <parsek> yes but i dont use this, i hardly ever vome to this channel
[03:40] <distro-tester> xera respect to xp do we loose any thing whit video cards on linux when u handle mosters as 7900GS i run and 8800?
[03:40] <Xera> so you can't just join some random server and then join this EXACT channel
[03:40] <BluesKaj> !demuxer
[03:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about demuxer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:40] <parsek> come
[03:40] <Xera> distro-tester: no, if you have the right drivers you don't
[03:40] <distro-tester> well i can just run general ones now till they out
[03:41] <tehpwn> !wireless
[03:41] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:41] <distro-tester> for the side of graphic creation it's better windows or linux?
[03:41] <Xera> um
[03:41] <distro-tester> all the 3d stuff
[03:41] <distro-tester> i mean
[03:41] <Xera> it's an opinion.
[03:42] <parsek> dual boot
[03:42] <distro-tester> i seen linux has real cool programs now but they told me u have to use key board mouse dosen't go whit 3d design
[03:42] <distro-tester> is that tre?
[03:42] <Xera> what?
[03:42] <distro-tester> true*
[03:42] <distro-tester> that u must use key respect to mouse on linux to creat art 3d stuff
[03:42] <distro-tester> like graphical design or whatever
[03:43] <bronze_0_1> no
[03:43] <BluesKaj> most serious graphics ppl that i know use A Mac
[03:43] <ForgeAus> distro depends on the software I guess
[03:43] <distro-tester> people do say many leggends on linux ahah
[03:43] <ForgeAus> what proggies on mac Blues?
[03:43] <distro-tester> they said only xp mac has mouse to draw
[03:43] <BluesKaj> IMAC or a Mac
[03:43] <Xera> [14:43]  <distro-tester> they said only xp mac has mouse to draw
[03:43] <Xera> lol?
[03:43] <Xera> bull.
[03:43] <BluesKaj> dunno , ForgeAus
[03:43] <ForgeAus> ok just curious
[03:43] <distro-tester> well macs are born for that blues over all
[03:44] <distro-tester> graphics
[03:44] <tehpwn> Ok, I'm not finding anything... I have two hard drives, the primary is my kubuntu.... and hdc1 is the windows hard drive... how do I access the Doze hdd?
[03:44] <ForgeAus> which is probably why they were so good for video when quicktime first come out with mov's
[03:44] <ForgeAus> not sure about these days
[03:44] <ForgeAus> flv seems to have taken off...
[03:44] <parsek> what programs do people use to do graphics stuff on macs?
[03:45] <BluesKaj> my daughter is an artist and all her graphic arts friends told her to buy a Mac ...that's what i know :)
[03:45] <Xera> tehpwn: sudo mount /dev/driveID /mnt/someFolder
[03:45] <bronze_0_1> photoshop
[03:45] <distro-tester> and another legged that i heard is that u can't send f6 something like that couse law said u can $ online for paying stuff only whit linux mac now for a governament law
[03:45] <Xera> wtf?
[03:45] <distro-tester> xp*
[03:45] <tehpwn> parsek, same as on windows... macromedia and adobe
[03:45] <ForgeAus> photoshop is SOOOOOOOOOOOO non-standard on Windows!
[03:45] <bronze_0_1> Xera: I think he/it's speaking a foreign language
[03:45] <tehpwn> ForgeAus, hehe, it was for me
[03:45] <parsek> then why do thay prefer macs, cooler? :)
[03:45] <Xera> bronze_0_1: lol
[03:45] <distro-tester> meas paying online is not supported any more by linux os xera they told me
[03:46] <Xera> XD?!!!
[03:46] <Xera> rofl
[03:46] <ForgeAus> how about Quark Express?
[03:46] <distro-tester> and only mac xp can for a recent world law ahah
[03:46] <ForgeAus> thats not under windows is it?
[03:46] <tehpwn> Xera, so: sudo mount /dev/hdc1 /mnt/c           ??
[03:46] <ForgeAus> (without VMware lol)
[03:46] <Xera> tehpwn: uh
[03:46] <Xera> what file system is it?
[03:46] <distro-tester> i bet u heard the moast incredible things on linux so u ready for everything here
[03:46] <tehpwn> ntfs
[03:46] <Xera> ok
[03:46] <Jucato> !ntfs | tehpwn
[03:46] <ubotu> tehpwn: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:47] <Xera> sudo mount /dev/hdc1 /mnt/c -t ntfs -o umask=00000
[03:47] <stdin> tehpwn: you have to make the directory first, so "sudo mkdir /mnt/c" first
[03:47] <Xera> stdin: well.. DUH
[03:47] <Xera> :P
[03:47] <tehpwn> ah, confused now :(
[03:47] <stdin> tehpwn: that guide ubotu posted will help you
[03:47] <Jucato> before you can mount a filesystem, you have to create the mount point (directory) where the filesystem/partition will be mountd
[03:47] <tehpwn> KK, Ill look at it
[03:49] <distro-tester> this is what i have to enable http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ right?
[03:49] <distro-tester> whit multireverse written near
[03:49] <distro-tester> ?
[03:49] <distro-tester> im i doing right?
[03:50] <Jucato> distro-tester: what for?
[03:50] <distro-tester> to eneble the repository
[03:50] <Jucato> !multiverse | distro-tester
[03:50] <ubotu> distro-tester: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:50] <distro-tester> as wiki says to get over 20.000 programs
[03:51] <distro-tester> im on that now jucato
[03:51] <Xera> http://www.clipmarks.com/clipmark/28280FB2-D4CE-4204-8F7D-45D3988622CD/
[03:51] <Xera> can anyone get on that?
[03:51] <distro-tester> i did enable what i pasted and wrote multirevers close to it now it's fine
[03:51] <mena> How Can I Control The Apps Wich They Work Auto With Kubuntu Start
[03:52] <Xera> mena: try not using capital letters on each word..
[03:52] <mena> okay
[03:52] <Xera> Only for the start of a sentence, or a name.
[03:52] <mena> i will
[03:52] <Xera> :p
[03:52] <mena> ok
[03:52] <mena> so How can i contorl the apps in the kubuntu start
[03:52] <Xera> !autostart
[03:52] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[03:52] <Jucato> !autostart
[03:52] <jason> hi guys
[03:53] <distro-tester> what do i get if i add the canonical repository to?
[03:53] <mena> Okat thanks
[03:53] <mena> Okay*
[03:53] <tehpwn> !pastebin
[03:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:53] <Jucato> distro-tester: in Edgy? nothing
[03:53] <distro-tester> in yes edgy
[03:53] <distro-tester> says commercial canonical reps
[03:53] <jason> when i try to run edgy my usrobotics usr5420 usb wifi doesnt work. i boot into kernel 2.6.15 and it does.  dmesg in 2.6.17 say no configuration chosen from 1 possible configuration
[03:53] <jason> any ideas?
[03:53] <Jucato> distro-tester: unfortunately, those are empty... useless...
[03:53] <distro-tester> a
[03:53] <mena> Xera, i installed calmAv i dont see ot in the menu how to run it
[03:53] <tehpwn> I really don't want to screw something up... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2416/
[03:54] <tehpwn> I already made the /dev/windows
[03:54] <Xera> mena: open a terminal and type clamav
[03:54] <Jucato> mena: clamav in Linux is a command line app. you really don't get an entry in the menu
[03:54] <distro-tester> do i have to enable backports jucato so i get flash player 9 im not able to install from console now?
[03:54] <mena> Xera, ok
[03:54] <Jucato> distro-tester: yes. backports for Flash 9 *BETA 2*
[03:54] <mena> jucato , okay
[03:54] <HymnToLife> !flash | Jucato
[03:54] <ubotu> Jucato: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:54] <Jucato> HymnToLife: huh?
[03:55] <distro-tester> perfect works fine as 9 final right?
[03:55] <jason> oh hi Jucato  kumusta?
[03:55] <tehpwn> Umm, Lil help!
[03:55] <ravermeister> does anybody know the path of the .desktop file of Storage Media in kde
[03:55] <Jucato> jason: hehe doing fine, doing fine :)
[03:55] <HymnToLife> sorry, that was for distro-tester :p
[03:55] <easy> hi
[03:55] <stdin> tehpwn: where did you make the windows directory ?
[03:55] <distro-tester> thanx hymm
[03:55] <tehpwn>  /dev/windows
[03:55] <Jucato> !flash9
[03:55] <ubotu> flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[03:55] <distro-tester> !backports
[03:55] <stdin> tehpwn: you don't make it in /dev
[03:55] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[03:55] <HymnToLife> tehpwn, you shouldn't do that, make in in /media rather
[03:55] <stdin> tehpwn: make it in /media
[03:56] <tehpwn> Oops, that what i meant to type
[03:56] <tehpwn> sorry i did make it in media
[03:56] <tehpwn>  /media/windows
[03:56] <tehpwn> Yeha, I just double checked, it in media
[03:56] <tehpwn> sry
[03:56] <mena> !clamav
[03:56] <ubotu> clamav: antivirus scanner for Unix. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.88.4-1ubuntu2.1 (edgy), package size 65 kB, installed size 208 kB
[03:56] <stdin> tehpwn: so to mount it, you'll do "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdc1 /media/windows -o umask=0000"
[03:57] <tehpwn> stdin, awesome thanks a bunch
[03:57] <stdin> np :)
[03:57] <tehpwn> Works!
[03:57] <distro-tester> what's the maintainer box in adept for do i nead to x it?
[03:57] <Jucato> distro-tester: no. those are just filters for searching
[03:58] <distro-tester> ok hey i must thank u helpers and unique comunity for the 24/7 help u give us
[03:58] <distro-tester> making this  medium user distro the more easy
[04:00] <distro-tester> why did u choose kubuntu jucato u like more kde as me?
[04:00] <Jucato> yes. I like KDE
[04:00] <tehpwn> Whooo! I have been up for 24 hours now!
[04:00] <distro-tester> same here all moast
[04:00] <tehpwn> I'm buying a bike today, I'm excited!
[04:00] <Deergus> Hi
[04:01] <tehpwn> Hello!
[04:01] <distro-tester> ok there is a very usefull antirootkit in adept but won't install it's called rkhunter
[04:01] <ruslan> sudo dpkg -i skype_debian-<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb
[04:01] <admin_> Hi, I just "installed" KDE "4", but I don't see it in the sessions menu, any ideas why not ?
[04:01] <distro-tester> hello
[04:01] <Jucato> admin_: how (or why?!) did you install KDE 4?
[04:01] <distro-tester> any one able to install rkhunter whit adept?
[04:01] <distro-tester> won't for me
[04:02] <admin_> Jucato: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-3.80.1.php
[04:02] <Skrot-> Jucato: kde4 is in the resperitories, so that explains how
[04:02] <Jucato> Skrot-: you can also install KDE 4 from SVN, that's why I asked
[04:02] <admin_> But any idea why it isn't in the sesions menu? It's in /usr/lib/KDE4
[04:02] <Skrot-> admin_: Are you a developer?
[04:02] <admin_> Skrot-: Nope
[04:03] <Skrot-> admin_: Then why?
[04:03] <admin_> Why not?
[04:03] <Jucato> admin_: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-3.80.2.php
[04:03] <Skrot-> Because its pre alpha?
[04:03] <Jucato> admin_: actually the question is "what for?"
[04:03] <admin_> It doesn't matter what for, just can yall help?
[04:03] <Deergus> I'm a new user to kubuntu, and have also installed beryl and emerald. My unforunate problem is that whenever I start beryl+emerald, my icons get mixed up. Some of them are big, and some are little. They are misplaced, and on top of all - in certain applications (like konqueror, the taskbar and panel) I'm using the normal iconset I chose on KDE, but on the rest(desktop, file manager etc...) I'm seeing different icons that I guess beryl
[04:03] <Deergus> chose. Could anyone please assist?
[04:03] <jason> hmmm found the soln (i think):  BUS=="usb", SYSFS{idProduct}=="001b", SYSFS{idVendor}=="0baf", \     PROGRAM="/bin/sh -c 'echo 1 > /sys/%p/device/bConfigurationValue'"
[04:03] <Skrot-> KDE 4 at the moment is of no use unless you're a developer :>
[04:03] <jason> With 2.6.16 and later kernels, RNDIS devices are not initialized (when device is plugged in, nothing happens). To get it going, you need to set the variable bConfigurationValue in sysfs.
[04:04] <distro-tester> im putting yum to jucato so i can handle rpms click and run
[04:04] <tehpwn> What's KDE 4?
[04:04] <fjellrev1> How do I check my python version? trying to install psyco, if anyonen is familiar with doing this help would be greatly appreciated
[04:04] <jason> brb (i hope)
[04:04] <tehpwn> !kde4
[04:04] <admin_> tehpwn: KDE 4 :P
[04:04] <ubotu> For information on KDE 4 (not to be released for quite some time yet), see: http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/kde4.html. Also worth checking are: appeal/phonon/plasma/solid.kde.org
[04:04] <ravermeister> nobody knows the path for the .desktop file of Storage media?
[04:04] <Jucato> admin_: just a word of caution. KDE 4 is still not in a state that will satisfy curious end users... you might end up getting frustrated or something
[04:04] <Jucato> admin_: for one, not everything will run properly
[04:04] <Skrot-> KDE 4 at the moment is nothing but a port from qt3 to qt4 and a lot of api clean up..
[04:05] <Jucato> distro-tester: huh?
[04:05] <Skrot-> It's like running a broken KDE 3 :)
[04:05] <admin_> heh
[04:05] <Deergus> Could someone assist please?
[04:06] <distro-tester> i said im installing yum to so i can install rpms
[04:06] <tehpwn> I can't, but what do you need, Deergus?
[04:06] <distro-tester> and have both that's the best for me
[04:06] <Jucato> Deergus: might want to try in #ubuntu-xgl
[04:06] <Jucato> distro-tester: it's not possible to directly install RPM's on DEB-based systems
[04:06] <DeadFishMan> distro-tester: You are trying to install Yum on Kubuntu so that you can use rpm packages?
[04:06] <Jucato> distro-tester: nor is it recommended to convert RPM'
[04:06] <Deergus> Thanks guys. I will attempt to ask for help there as well
[04:06] <Jucato> distro-tester: nor is it recommended to convert RPM's to DEB's. but that is more possible
[04:06] <distro-tester> yes
[04:07] <distro-tester> im i doing wrong?
[04:07] <Jucato> you also can't install Yum
[04:07] <Jucato> yes you are doing wrong
[04:07] <distro-tester> ok never mind then
[04:07] <DeadFishMan> distro-tester: Forget it... Even though technically is possible to install certain rpms (using alien) you most likely will break your system
[04:07] <distro-tester> it has installed it ill remove it then
[04:08] <distro-tester> better i ask next time when i do this delicate stuff
[04:08] <DeadFishMan> distro-tester: Besides, there is little if anything at all available as rpm packages that you can't find as debian packages
[04:09] <distro-tester> yes we got even more no one can compete whit debian repos
[04:09] <Jucato> and in case you really can only find an .rpm only, it's better and safer to compile from source code
[04:09] <DeadFishMan> Jucato: Exactly!
[04:09] <distro-tester> now im looking for the best antivirus for linux if i ever nead it u advise me clamav?
[04:09] <tehpwn> Anti-Virus in linux?
[04:09] <DeadFishMan> !klamav | distro-tester
[04:09] <ubotu> klamav: KDE frontend for ClamAV. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.37-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 702 kB, installed size 2256 kB
[04:09] <Jucato> distro-tester: antivirus for Linux? hardly need one
[04:09] <stdin> !antivirus | distro-tester
[04:09] <ubotu> distro-tester: antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[04:10] <distro-tester> just to keep it there u never know
[04:10] <Jucato> distro-tester: antivirus *for XP* on Linux... clamav is ok
[04:10] <tehpwn> Am I being totally cliche by asking why would would want an antivirus in linux?
[04:10] <distro-tester> perfect
[04:10] <Jucato> distro-tester: viruses for Linux only exists in labs.you'll know if there exists in the wild... it will become frontpage news
[04:11] <distro-tester> i advise all to put rkhunter for rootkits on adept plus chrootkit they are both on adept under rootkit voice
[04:11] <distro-tester> u know we ex windows are still paranoic on infections side jucato aahha
[04:11] <stdin> !linuxvirus
[04:11] <ubotu> The short life and hard times of a Linux Virus http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[04:11] <distro-tester> on of the main reasons why i turned to linux is security
[04:11] <distro-tester> instresting stdin
[04:12] <stdin> windows user: "Aww, I just got infected with a virus", Linux user: "Hahahahahahah" :P
[04:12] <DeadFishMan> stdin: ROTFL
[04:12] <tehpwn> I grew up on windows (18 yrs) and am not paranoid at all when it comes to viruses and spyware because over time I learned how to defend myself from all of that nonsense
[04:13] <Jucato> ditto :)
[04:13] <distro-tester> btw there are rootkits for linux and some short life worms so all ways scan whit antirootkit adept gives u
[04:13] <Xera> damn it
[04:13] <Xera> http://www.clipmarks.com/clipmark/28280FB2-D4CE-4204-8F7D-45D3988622CD/
[04:13] <BluesKaj> Windows propronents like ZDNet have article on Linux viruses all the time , saying how vulnerable Linux is supposed to be due to that attitude.
[04:14] <Xera> that worked before, but now it doesn't change anything..
[04:14] <tehpwn> But like, 5 days ago I wanted to see if i could be sucessful in linux, so i came here (#kubuntu)
[04:14] <tehpwn> hehe
[04:14] <distro-tester> btw u right jucato 99% of virus and pc junk is made by antivirus houses
[04:14] <distro-tester> it's like a dubble blade business
[04:14] <DeadFishMan> distro-tester: That's an classical urban legend, even though it kinda makes sense to me. :)
[04:15] <tehpwn> distro-tester, I believe he was stating that linux viruses aren't exactually real because they are made in labs and contained... not really talked about outside
[04:15] <Xera> can anyone help me install an ati radeon 9250??
[04:15] <Xera> >:
[04:16] <distro-tester> i said what i said who is smart got it heehe
[04:16] <tehpwn> DeadFishMan, yeah It would completely make sense to me also... i mean what better do they have to do? lol
[04:16] <DeadFishMan> lol
[04:17] <tehpwn> distro-tester, ok, either im way to tired to understand that, or your making no sense....
[04:17] <distro-tester> don't worry teh be happy
[04:18] <tehpwn> Currently 7:17am
[04:18] <distro-tester> i enabled the backports now just doing enable on both now i can look for flash player 9 today i nead to do step by step every thing as im 1 time on linux hope i get better
[04:18] <tehpwn> Why isn't there a FireFox 2.0 for linux?
[04:18] <Jucato> tehpwn: huh?
[04:19] <stdin> tehpwn: there is, I'm using it :)
[04:19] <bronze_0_1> tehpwn: www.mozilla.org, download it
[04:19] <Jucato> !firefox | tehpwn
[04:19] <ubotu> tehpwn: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[04:19] <tehpwn> i used apt-get and it gave me FF1.5 :(
[04:19] <Jucato> er..
[04:19] <Jucato> !info firefox | tehpwn
[04:19] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>+0dfsg-0ubuntu0.6.10 (edgy), package size 8992 kB, installed size 28580 kB
[04:19] <stdin> tehpwn: it's in backports too
[04:19] <Jucato> tehpwn: you are on Dapper, I presume?
[04:19] <tehpwn> Eh, yeah?
[04:19] <tehpwn> Kubuntu 6.06... came with 'konquorer' or w/e
[04:19] <Jucato> stdin: no FIrefox 2.0 for Dapper
[04:19] <tehpwn> :"(
[04:20] <Deergus> How can I make programs to run on startup(xserver startup)
[04:20] <tehpwn> so who wants to install xgl for me?
[04:20] <tehpwn> lol
[04:20] <DeadFishMan> !xinitrc
[04:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xinitrc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:21] <DeadFishMan> !.xinitrc
[04:21] <tehpwn> !xgl
[04:21] <washbear> Deergus: System / Preferences / Sessions
[04:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xinitrc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:21] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:21] <Jucato> tehpwn: give us admin access to your system :)
[04:21] <Jucato> washbear: that's for GNOME
[04:21] <tehpwn> tell me how.. i have nothing to hide
[04:21] <washbear> ahhh, wromg channel
[04:21] <DeadFishMan> Jucato: Now THAT is a classical move on IRC, if I ever saw one... :)
[04:21] <Jucato> tehpwn: just go to #ubuntu-xgl and read the topic there :)
[04:21] <Jucato> DeadFishMan: hehe :)
[04:21] <tehpwn> READ!!!?!?!?!
[04:22] <Jucato> tehpwn: it has links for howto's
[04:22] <DeadFishMan> tehpwn: He was just kidding... You NEVER want to do something like that!
[04:22] <krom> eugh?
[04:22] <tehpwn> and get's hacked :(
[04:22] <Jucato> better get used to reading... Linux is for people with brains :)
[04:22] <krom> LOL true Jucato
[04:22] <Jucato> or rather, Linux acknowledges the fact that people have brains
[04:22] <krom> some people have brains... not all
[04:23] <tehpwn> Lol, yeah I know, I just like people to do stuff for me :-p
[04:23] <Jucato> all people have brains... some just don't use them :P
[04:23] <krom> HAHAH
[04:23] <tehpwn> But srsly, I don't mind at all giving you like a backdoor into my network or what ever... I have nothing to hide and there is nobody else on my network...
[04:24] <krom> lol
[04:24] <Jucato> tehpwn: never do that...
[04:24] <krom> BRAINZ
[04:24] <Jucato> unless you absolutely trust the person, or know the person enough to kill him, just in case
[04:24] <distro-tester> what's the time in usa btw?
[04:24] <tehpwn> I have before, some guy attempted to help install gentoo
[04:24] <manu_> hi
[04:24] <tehpwn> he failed though
[04:24] <distro-tester> hello manu
[04:25] <DeadFishMan> tehpwn: Someone can enter a rootkit or something like that on your system and you will never know...
[04:25] <Jucato> distro-tester: USA is big :)
[04:25] <Skrot-> Im running a custom kernel, but I want to be able to use vmware. I've downloaded the vmware-player-kernel-source package, but how do I install it?
[04:25] <distro-tester> 4.25 pm in rome what about there jun?
[04:25] <ravermeister> hello, i still have one problem. when the login prompt from kdm appears, and i type my username and password, kde don't starts up, it stands still after
[04:25] <manu_> is there a tool allready installed to get this color code like #CCCCCC, in krita i can only find a option for hexadecimal code
[04:25] <ravermeister> the login prompter disappeared, and then i have to restart x
[04:25] <ravermeister> with strg+alt+return
[04:25] <ravermeister> and then when i type username and password again it runs
[04:26] <ravermeister> anybody knows the problem?
[04:26] <tehpwn> Yeah, well I have a small beliefe in the back of my head that most everybody in here answering questions, if they wanted to, could track down my system and do bad things to me over the net
[04:26] <distro-tester> yes teh it's best not to share your ports whit no one
[04:26] <distro-tester> rember to trust is good to non trust is better
[04:26] <tehpwn> lol
[04:26] <distro-tester> eheh u don't even nead to be paranoic do
[04:27] <distro-tester> just keep firestarter on and all updates
[04:27] <stdin> Skrot-: it's in /usr/src you need to untar it, then cd vmware-player-kernel, then make sure /usr/src/linux points to your linux source (compiled) or headers, then run "debian/rules binary-modules", then install the deb
[04:27] <tehpwn> I'm not paranoid.. Like I said, I'm not hiding anything, I don't have any illegal files or sensative files
[04:27] <distro-tester> i really love that firewall  it's a very simple and pro security tool
[04:28] <tehpwn> "What do I have to fear, other than fear itself?"
[04:28] <stdin> Skrot-: it's in /usr/src/modules/vmware-player-kernel not /usr/src/vmware-player-kernel
[04:28] <DeadFishMan> tehpwn: Once someone finds a way into your system your computer is no longer "yours"
[04:28] <distro-tester> i enabled the backdoors universe multireverse both juncato for flash player but don't see it in search yet is it under another name?
[04:28] <bronze_0_1> tehpwn: not only is that true, most of us have already done it.
[04:29] <DeadFishMan> tehpwn: Can you imagine someone snekaing in and deleting your family pictures or that hard to find mp3? :)
[04:29] <Jucato> distro-tester: flashplugin-nonfree
[04:29] <stdin> distro-tester: flask is called "flashplugin-nonfree"
[04:29] <distro-tester> o great
[04:29] <stdin> flask ? flash
[04:29] <Skrot-> stdin: thanks :)
[04:29] <tehpwn> DeadFishMan, Eh, my mp3 collection is backed up on 3 different hard drives... Lol, and I have no family pics, they are all stored on the internet
[04:30] <distro-tester> trust me teh i got hacked bad on xp and know what it means now my hobby is web security
[04:30] <stdin> Skrot-: yw :)
[04:30] <distro-tester> it's very hard unless u change pc and isp to get off a good cracker
[04:30] <DeadFishMan> tehpwn: That was just an example... But it is your system, man: your loss :)
[04:30] <tehpwn> distro-tester, I have always been interested in network security, but the only thing I have ever really been 'good' at when it comes to computers is building them
[04:31] <distro-tester> that's good i use to do that once but u can use skype there are many chans where they speak of pc and IE security willing to teach
[04:31] <DeadFishMan> tehpwn: I used to work as sysadmin for an ISP a few years ago and believe me when I say this: security is a huge concern! :)
[04:31] <tehpwn> DeadFishMan, I completely understand what you guys are saying ya know. But I don't feel I have a reason to be afraid of being hacked. *I have nothing that can't be replaced*
[04:32] <DeadFishMan> tehpwn: I see... So you don't have a computer... You have a honey pot! :-P
[04:32] <tehpwn> What do you mean by I dont have a computer? like they can fry my components via the net?
[04:33] <Skrot-> btw, is ipw3945 automagically detected during edgy install?
[04:33] <stdin> tehpwn: you should still take precautions against being cracked, some one, for instance, could crack your system and launch an attack against a website from your PC and your ISP would track the attack to you
[04:33] <distro-tester> we don't have to worry of netbios 139 worm port msn and rest right ?
[04:33] <DeadFishMan> tehpwn: Honey pot are computers that are left on the internet with low or no security measures taken at all on purpose. They are used by security experts to study the behaviour of crackers and the likes
[04:34] <tehpwn> DeadFishMan oic
[04:34] <distro-tester> distro-tester> we don't have to worry of netbios 139 worm port msn and rest right ?
[04:34] <distro-tester> on linux
[04:34] <distro-tester> ?
[04:35] <tehpwn> afk for a bit
[04:35] <stdin> distro-tester: no, no we don't :)
[04:35] <DeadFishMan> tehpwn: As stdin said, your system can be used as a zombie on a DDoS attack, as a open proxy or something along these lines
[04:35] <distro-tester> those are windows users dayly headaches ahah i still rember close that patch this argggggggg
[04:35] <distro-tester> ahah now i feel reborn
[04:36] <distro-tester> im still scared of terminal and that will be to hard in part but i think i can make it in time to learn unix bases
[04:36] <BluesKaj> so DeadFishMan, what's recommended as security for kubuntu users ?
[04:36] <tehpwn> bak
[04:36] <tehpwn> DeadFishMan, DDos?
[04:36] <tehpwn> !ddos
[04:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ddos - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:37] <distro-tester> ok i installed java plugin for  mozilla to
[04:37] <Kr4t05> Distributed Denail of Service
[04:37] <DeadFishMan> BluesKaj: Honestly, I don't know... I installed Kubuntu for the first time ever a few days ago. :)
[04:37] <Kr4t05> Denial*
[04:37] <Kr4t05> If you feel the need to do anything, install a good firewall frontend and panda antivirus. :P
[04:37] <DeadFishMan> BluesKaj: But any Linux distro is a reasonable compromise... I never felt the need to use SELinux nor AppArmor in my home computers
[04:37] <tehpwn> The only kind of attack I have ever really played around with is like MITM.... At like LAN parties and stuff
[04:37] <BluesKaj> well, I found clamav buggy ...not very reassuring :)
[04:38] <distro-tester> hehe one of the basic tricks to do afther getting the registry pass and owing the gate
[04:38] <distro-tester> onwing*
[04:38] <tehpwn> Lol
[04:38] <Jucato> distro-tester: you meant "owning"?
[04:38] <distro-tester> yes i really nead a spell checker
[04:38] <tehpwn> So now that this channel is becoming more active, anybody good with wireless?
[04:38] <tehpwn> hehe
[04:38] <distro-tester> and english lessons ahaha
[04:38] <BluesKaj> <---not a gamer...unless you count solitaire as a game :)
[04:39] <Jucato> distro-tester: right-click on the text input in Konversation, select Auto Spell Check
[04:39] <Jucato> presuming you have a dictionary (ispell/aspell) installed
[04:39] <distro-tester> ok super
[04:39] <distro-tester> i will install it now
[04:40] <tehpwn> !tunaktunaktun
[04:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tunaktunaktun - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:40] <Jucato> tehpwn: unfortunately, being a Sunday in most areas of the world... :(
[04:40] <DeadFishMan> Jucato: Thanks for the tip. With English not being my first language, something like that is greatly appreciated :)
[04:40] <Jucato> DeadFishMan: no problem :)
[04:40] <abattoir> tehpwn: what's the problem?
[04:40] <unix_infidel> tehpwn: lol.
[04:40] <Jucato> abattoir!!!
[04:40] <tehpwn> I use aspell for Gaim
[04:40] <jughead> tehpwn, what are you trying to do?
[04:40] <unix_infidel> i didnt know they had wireless in india :)
[04:40] <abattoir> Jucato!!!!!!
[04:40] <abattoir> :)
[04:41] <Jucato> low blow...
[04:41] <tehpwn> Well, my wireless was working, and I restared the PC and now its not
[04:41] <tehpwn> so I'm back on the cat5
[04:41] <abattoir> tehpwn: which card?
[04:41] <tehpwn> Linksys WMP54GS w/ Speed Booster
[04:41] <distro-tester> is there any graphical tool to monitor upd and tcp good as port guard on xp here?
[04:42] <distro-tester> like that tells u evertying ip host mac etc
[04:42] <distro-tester> location
[04:42] <DeadFishMan> distro-tester: Try iptraf
[04:42] <marmasso>  hello come si chiama la irc in italiano
[04:42] <DeadFishMan> distro-tester: It is not a GUI app but it has a ncurses interface
[04:42] <tehpwn> abattoir, when i type ndiswrapper -l, it prints: bcmwl5a         driver present, hardware present
[04:42] <DeadFishMan> !ncurses
[04:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ncurses - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:42] <tehpwn> abattoir, so im not sure why its not working
[04:42] <abattoir> tehpwn: is that a broadcom card?
[04:43] <tehpwn> IDK, its linksys :-D
[04:43] <unix_infidel> tehpwn: where in india do you live that they have wireless?
[04:43] <distro-tester> in simple words im i able to view it and louch it as a program don't know what gui means yet
[04:43] <distro-tester> ?
[04:43] <tehpwn> unix_infidel, umm, Corona California... Lol
[04:43] <abattoir> tehpwn: ok, try 'sudo rmmod ndiswrapper && sudo modprobe ndiswrapper'
[04:43] <Jucato> distro-tester: GUI = graphical user interface
[04:43] <distro-tester> im instrest only in security stuff now linux seems to have much
[04:43] <distro-tester> and gui then
[04:43] <unix_infidel> tehpwn: awww, immigrant!
[04:43] <tehpwn> Lol, NOOOOOO
[04:43] <DeadFishMan> distro-tester: GUI = apps to run on the graphic interface (GNOME, KDE, etc)
[04:44] <jughead> tehpwn:  try modinfo ndiswrapper
[04:44] <tehpwn> abattoir, do i keep the ampersand signs?
[04:44] <distro-tester> any security tools to monitor pc to advise me gui ones for kde?
[04:44] <abattoir> tehpwn: yup
[04:44] <DeadFishMan> distro-tester: ncurses = those old apps on the console that TRY to draw graphics using only ASCII characters
[04:44] <unix_infidel> tehpwn: you have a wrt54gl you can turn that into a wireless adapter.
[04:44] <abattoir> tehpwn: they club the two commands together, you can do one after the other if you want too
[04:44] <distro-tester> that's cool
[04:45] <abattoir> unix_infidel: off-topic, but Indian airports seem to have decent wireless infrastructure
[04:45] <tehpwn> bcmwl5a         driver present, hardware present
[04:45] <tehpwn> oops
[04:45] <tehpwn> tehpwn@tuxbox:~$ sudo rmmod ndiswrapper && sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[04:45] <tehpwn> Password:
[04:45] <tehpwn> ERROR: Module ndiswrapper does not exist in /proc/modules
[04:45] <tehpwn> tehpwn@tuxbox:~$
[04:45] <unix_infidel> abattoir: i generally dont need it there.
[04:46] <jughead> is it a usb card?
[04:46] <abattoir> tehpwn: please don't paste outputs more than 2/3 lines here...
[04:46] <tehpwn> Nope, PCI
[04:46] <jughead> ok
[04:46] <tehpwn> abattoir, yes sir (mam?)
[04:46] <distro-tester> ill reinstall java couse i seen there are some security things to do when u install it as plug in for firefox
[04:46] <abattoir> tehpwn: doesn't work? hmm...
[04:46] <Jucato> tehpwn: abattoir is a sir
[04:46] <Jucato> at least, last I checked
[04:46] <tehpwn> Jucato, k, now i know :)
[04:47] <tehpwn> lol
[04:47] <abattoir> tehpwn: can you give me the last few(relevant) lines of 'dmesg' ?
[04:47] <DeadFishMan> distro-tester: I wouldn't be too worried about that right now. Java is reasonable secure by default
[04:47] <abattoir> tehpwn: you might want to pastebin it if it's more than 2/3 lines
[04:47] <tehpwn> [17179608.700000]  [drm]  Initialized i915 1.4.0 20060119 on minor 0
[04:47] <abattoir> !paste
[04:47] <tehpwn> [17181863.300000]  NTFS driver 2.1.25 [Flags: R/O MODULE] .
[04:47] <tehpwn> [17181863.364000]  NTFS volume version 3.1.
[04:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:47] <abattoir> Jucato: bzr is my current fav. ;)
[04:48] <abattoir> tehpwn: ok, try 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper' again
[04:48] <Jucato> abattoir: I'm going to "learn" that too... and git as well
[04:48] <abattoir> tehpwn: i don't think it got executed the last time
[04:48] <tehpwn> abattoir nothgin printed back
[04:48] <abattoir> tehpwn: dmesg ?
[04:48] <tehpwn> k
[04:48] <jughead> tehpwn:  before you do "modprobe ndiswrapper" make sure you do "depmod -a"
[04:49] <tehpwn> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2421/
[04:49] <distro-tester> strange can't find wine in adept has just libwine libwinedev and winefish wich one i must install?
[04:50] <jughead> tehpwn, does it work?
[04:50] <tehpwn> does what work?
[04:50] <Jucato> distro-tester: what are you trying to install?
[04:50] <distro-tester> wine
[04:50] <Jucato> distro-tester: er... install "wine"
[04:50] <DeadFishMan> !wine | distro-tester
[04:50] <ubotu> distro-tester: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:50] <abattoir> tehpwn: ok, ndiswrapper's been loaded... now try connecting
[04:50] <Jucato> !info wine | distro-tester
[04:50] <distro-tester> thanx
[04:50] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB
[04:50] <tehpwn> jughead, the card dosent work if thats what your asking...
[04:50] <Jucato> distro-tester: make sure "universe" is enabled
[04:51] <distro-tester> it's on
[04:51] <tehpwn> abattoir, the light on the card hasnt lit up yet
[04:51] <tehpwn> usually it will
[04:51] <abattoir> tehpwn: is it on?
[04:51] <tehpwn> abattoir, the light? no
[04:51] <marmasso> Hey nobody speaks italian plese
[04:51] <abattoir> !it
[04:51] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[04:52] <abattoir> tehpwn: some cards have an external switch/button...
[04:52] <tehpwn> Hehe, no it dosent have that
[04:52] <levi__> what is the best cd extractor?
[04:52] <abattoir> tehpwn: could you paste the o/p of 'sudo iwconfig' ?
[04:52] <tehpwn> I have used this card before in windows and linux...
[04:52] <DeadFishMan> levi__: CD Extractor? What do you want to do?
[04:52] <tehpwn> abattoir, sure thing gimme a sec
[04:52] <levi__> rip a cd
[04:53] <abattoir> levi__: audio cd?
[04:53] <DeadFishMan> levi__: Use KAudioCreator
[04:53] <tehpwn> abattoir, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2422/
[04:53] <levi__> i did
[04:53] <DeadFishMan> levi__: And...?
[04:53] <levi__> but giving me an error
[04:54] <levi__> could not read /dev/cdrom
[04:54] <DeadFishMan> levi__: What is the error message?
[04:54] <Jucato> !cdripping
[04:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cdripping - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:54] <DeadFishMan> levi__: Does /mnt/cdrom point to your CD-ROM drive?
[04:54] <tehpwn> !porn
[04:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about porn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:54] <tehpwn> Aww :(
[04:54] <Jucato> !botabuse | tehpwn
[04:54] <ubotu> tehpwn: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[04:54] <abattoir> tehpwn: err... which version of kubuntu? did you remove/blacklist the native bcm43xx driver?
[04:55] <Jucato> !ripping | levi__
[04:55] <ubotu> levi__: For information about the Sound Juicer ripping application, read the Gnome help (Applications- Multimedia -Sound Juicer Manual). To rip an Audio CD in KDE, put it in and then put audiocd:// in the Konqueror URL bar; it's configurable in system settings.
[04:55] <tehpwn> abattoir, 6.06
[04:55] <levi__> /mnt/cdrom?
[04:55] <levi__> no
[04:55] <levi__> media/cdrom
[04:55] <tehpwn> abattoir, that is the driver that 'bxnp' gave me about 2 days ago in this channel
[04:55] <DeadFishMan> levi__: So that's the problem. You just need to change the mount point on the app settings
[04:56] <DeadFishMan> levi__: Or you can also follow this:
[04:56] <abattoir> tehpwn: bcm43xx?
[04:56] <DeadFishMan> !cdripping | levi__
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cdripping - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <DeadFishMan> !ripping | levi__
[04:56] <ubotu> levi__: For information about the Sound Juicer ripping application, read the Gnome help (Applications- Multimedia -Sound Juicer Manual). To rip an Audio CD in KDE, put it in and then put audiocd:// in the Konqueror URL bar; it's configurable in system settings.
[04:56] <tehpwn> tehpwn@tuxbox:~$ ndiswrapper -l
[04:56] <tehpwn> Installed ndis drivers:
[04:56] <tehpwn> bcmwl5a         driver present, hardware present
[04:56] <tehpwn> abattoir, that one
[04:56] <abattoir> tehpwn: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29 should explain it
[04:57] <abattoir> (assuming your linksys card does use a bcm chipset)
[04:57] <tehpwn> IDK?
[04:58] <levi__> deadfishman can i just change the drive i want to you/?
[04:59] <abattoir> tehpwn: you installed the windows driver that came w/ the card right?(through ndiswrapper) ?
[04:59] <abattoir> tehpwn: ok, your card used bcm chipset... now read that link... or if you prefer, i'll guide you step by step
[05:00] <DeadFishMan> levi__: Sorry... I didn't understand that. If you are asking if you need to change the mount point to /media/cdrom, then the answer is yes
[05:00] <abattoir> *uses
[05:00] <tehpwn> abattoir, yeah i'm reading it folowing along
[05:01] <tehpwn> abattoir, the driver that i downloaded from linksys.com for XP didnt work.. thats why this driver was given to me by 'bxnp'
[05:01] <tehpwn> approx 2 days ago
[05:01] <distro-tester> brb
[05:01] <abattoir> tehpwn: ok, i hope he knew what he was doing... you should be reading 1.1 in that page
[05:02] <tehpwn> abattoir, already past that
[05:02] <distro-tester> wine has on for 32 bit arch im 64 is that ok?
[05:02] <abattoir> tehpwn: you did that the last time?
[05:03] <abattoir> distro-tester: you will not be able to directly run wine on a 64-bit install
[05:03] <tehpwn> abattoir, no im doing it just now... i dont recall exactually what i did last time
[05:03] <stamen> hi
[05:03] <stamen> please help
[05:03] <abattoir> tehpwn: ok, that's all you need to do... does it work now?
[05:03] <distro-tester> o so how can i do im amd 3000 64 bit
[05:03] <stamen> I started to delete my partition with movies
[05:03] <DeadFishMan> !ask | stamen
[05:03] <ubotu> stamen: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:03] <tehpwn> abattoir, no still the same
[05:04] <abattoir> distro-tester: have you installed a 64-bit version of kubuntu?
[05:04] <stamen> and I have caneled the operation
[05:04] <distro-tester> yes
[05:04] <distro-tester> 6.10
[05:04] <stamen> at the benginig
[05:04] <abattoir> distro-tester: oh, then you should be fine
[05:04] <stamen> but now I don;t see anything int the partition
[05:04] <distro-tester> ty
[05:04] <stamen> after remounting all is the same
[05:04] <stamen> there is nothing
[05:04] <DeadFishMan> stamen: Does it mount without errors?
[05:04] <tehpwn> abattoir, is there a command or something that i can do so I can just start all over??
[05:04] <abattoir> tehpwn: which tool are you using to connect?
[05:05] <stamen> DeadFishMan: yes it mounted without errorsd
[05:05] <stamen> DeadFishMan: yes it mounted without errors
[05:05] <abattoir> tehpwn: start over from where exactly?
[05:05] <stamen> after this command df -h
[05:05] <tehpwn> abattoir, the one that comes with kubuntu... called : wireless lan manager
[05:05] <DeadFishMan> stamen: What filesystem did you use on that partition?
[05:05] <stamen> it says that the partition is not empty
[05:05] <abattoir> tehpwn: does it detect your network(s) ?
[05:05] <stamen> et3
[05:05] <stamen> ext3
[05:05] <tehpwn> abattoir, idk, from where what ever the heck i did is fixable :-p
[05:05] <tehpwn> abattoir, no the card isnt even turing on still
[05:06] <stamen> DeadFishMan: the strange is that it is still with the information
[05:06] <stamen> DeadFishMan: but I can;t see the files
[05:06] <tehpwn> abattoir, and im sitting litterally 2 feet away from the router just to make sure i can get a good connection... if it ever decides to go on..
[05:06] <abattoir> tehpwn: hmm... did you run those commands on that page?
[05:06] <tehpwn> abattoir, yes
[05:07] <abattoir> tehpwn: ok, do a 'sudo iwlist eth1 scan'
[05:07] <abattoir> tehpwn: do you see your networok?
[05:07] <abattoir> *network
[05:08] <tehpwn> tehpwn@tuxbox:~$ sudo iwlist eth1 scan
[05:08] <tehpwn> eth1      Interface doesn't support scanning.
[05:08] <link> stamen: it's ok.  switch to windows
[05:08] <abattoir> tehpwn: could you pastebin 'sudo iwconfig' again?
[05:08] <tehpwn> sure thing
[05:08] <stamen> and
[05:08] <stamen> link: after that what to do
[05:09] <link> stamen: lol  I was just kidding.
[05:09] <blackflag> !backup
[05:09] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[05:09] <stamen> link:  It's serious
[05:09] <stamen> link: please tell me
[05:09] <tehpwn> abattoir, wow it really messed up now.... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2423/
[05:09] <stamen> link: what to do
[05:09] <link> stamen: lol  I was just kidding.
[05:09] <stamen> link: It's not funny
[05:09] <stamen> link: :(
[05:09] <distro-tester> ok i made first mess i wanted o dowload wine and did has wike told me added this to repos eb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main
[05:09] <link> stamen: ok... i just came in on the convo... what's you're problem?
[05:09] <ForgeAus> I got 2 much data to back up! lol
[05:10] <distro-tester> now tells me i med a mistake and to try to fix it from console
[05:10] <distro-tester> adept can't open any more says
[05:10] <stamen> link: in my mistake I started to delete one of my partitions
[05:10] <DeadFishMan> stamen: I dunno if this works so I can't endorse it but you can try: http://www.diskinternals.com/linux-recovery/
[05:10] <ForgeAus> distro-tester wine is already in  one fo the universe or multiverse repositories I think
[05:10] <stamen> link: I canceled the operation
[05:10] <Skrot> Hi. When booting the Kubuntu Edgy install CD, I get an error: "Mount: function not implemented". The .iso has the correct md5sum. Any ideas?
[05:10] <abattoir> tehpwn: hmm.. ok, do a 'sudo rmmod ndiswrapper' and 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper' again
[05:10] <ForgeAus> you don't need bidget dedicated repository...
[05:10] <ForgeAus> but it might have a newer version (which isn't necessarily stable)
[05:10] <stamen> link: and now I can;t see the files
[05:10] <abattoir> tehpwn: then pastebin the last few lines of 'dmesg'
[05:11] <tehpwn> tehpwn@tuxbox:~$ sudo rmmod ndiswrapper
[05:11] <tehpwn> Segmentation fault
[05:11] <tehpwn> tehpwn@tuxbox:~$
[05:11] <link> stamen: huh...  I'm not god at partitioning, but I'll try to help
[05:11] <abattoir> tehpwn: kinda getting repetitive ain't it? ;)
[05:11] <DeadFishMan> stamen: It is a free (as in free beer) Windows utility intended to recover data from ext2/ext3 formatted partitions
[05:11] <Racchio> Hi there! I have two sound cards on my desktop pc: an onboard one and a PCI one. They both works nice but ARTS uses just one of these (the onboard one). There's any way to tell ARTS to use both or to use the PCI one? Thanks :)
[05:11] <distro-tester> how do  i fix the mistake i made in adept that won't open any more?
[05:11] <Phlosten> i think wine was backported to the newest version
[05:11] <abattoir> tehpwn: err.. what did you do?
[05:11] <stamen> link: after df -h, it says that there is still not empty
[05:11] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago_: hello!!
[05:11] <abattoir> tehpwn: i'd suggest a reboot at this stage :)
[05:11] <tehpwn> abattoir, lol, its stuck on that 2nd command
[05:11] <stamen> DeadFishMan: I will try
[05:11] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago_: you have a tail :)
[05:12] <tehpwn> abattoir, hehe, ok ill be back :-p
[05:12] <abattoir> tehpwn: ok
[05:12] <Admiral_Chicago_> I have two clients, irssi and konversation
[05:12] <Admiral_Chicago_> working on setting it up how I like it
[05:12] <link> stamen: lol... i'm newb.  first time I heard of "dh"
[05:12] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago_: hehe :)
[05:12] <BluesKaj> distro-tester, sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:12] <stamen> link: it is df -h
[05:12] <abattoir> hi BluesKaj :)
[05:12] <stamen> DeadFishMan: I will try it now
[05:13] <link> stamen: right I tried the command on my computer
[05:13] <stamen> DeadFishMan: hope it works
[05:13] <BluesKaj> hi abattoir , how's things?
[05:13] <guyz> list #*ubuntu*
[05:13] <abattoir> BluesKaj: fine here... you?
[05:13] <guyz> oops..
[05:13] <link> stamen: hey good luck.  if it was me, I'd back up information and reinstall
[05:13] <MidMark> hi
[05:13] <BluesKaj> fine too :) thx
[05:13] <distro-tester> ok thanx blues everytime happens must be carefool
[05:13] <stamen> link: 10x
[05:14] <MidMark> I've a problem: a pc that connects with a modem, it connects, but cannot reach internet, ping doesn't work, previously used ethernet modem, what you suggests?
[05:14] <link> stamen:  no 10q
[05:14] <BluesKaj> distro-tester, make a textfile and save the commands ppl give to fix stuff , that's what i do :)
[05:14] <Deergus> How can I make certain applications start on startup?
[05:14] <link> stamen:  (dont know why,  but thanks :) )
[05:14] <DeadFishMan> MidMark: You probably have DNS issues
[05:14] <distro-tester> ok
[05:15] <distro-tester> i did the command nothing happend do
[05:15] <BluesKaj> Deergus, leave them open when you quit , they'll start up again when you login :)
[05:15] <DeadFishMan> MidMark: If you use KPPP to dial to the internet, ask your ISP for the DNS and then either update KPPP accordingly or edit /etc/resolv.conf and add them there
[05:15] <tehpwn> Ok I'm back!
[05:15] <MidMark> DeadFishMan: no, ping doesn't work with ip number not name
[05:15] <Deergus> There should be a better way. I want beryl and emerald to start on startup..
[05:15] <MidMark> dns are just updated in kppp
[05:15] <Deergus> anyone?
[05:15] <MidMark> other ideas?
[05:16] <abattoir> tehpwn: ok, works now?
[05:16] <DeadFishMan> MidMark: So it is the other way around, then? It does ping using the hostname but not with the IP address?
[05:16] <tehpwn> abattoir, hehe, no
[05:16] <Admiral_Chicago_> Deergus: perhaps #beryl knows, or link to it in ~/.kde/autostart
[05:16] <abattoir> tehpwn: if it doesn't, try 'sudo rmmod bcm43xx' , 'sudo rmmod ndiswrapper' and finally 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper'
[05:16] <abattoir> tehpwn: (hoping it doesn't segfault now)
[05:16] <distro-tester> maby if i reboot it will solve the problem that adept crashed for the mistake i made adding a site in it
[05:16] <abattoir> tehpwn: then post the output of 'sudo iwconfig'
[05:16] <tehpwn> abattoir,
[05:16] <tehpwn> tehpwn@tuxbox:~$ sudo rmmod bcm43xx
[05:16] <tehpwn> ERROR: Module bcm43xx does not exist in /proc/modules
[05:17] <abattoir> tehpwn: ok, that's fine
[05:17] <tehpwn> abattoir
[05:17] <tehpwn> tehpwn@tuxbox:~$ sudo rmmod ndiswrapper
[05:17] <tehpwn> ERROR: Module ndiswrapper does not exist in /proc/modules
[05:17] <bart132> i have a problem with kdevelop i think ...  *n00b*
[05:17] <abattoir> tehpwn: that's ok... for now
[05:17] <distro-tester> brb
[05:18] <tehpwn> abattoir, Whoooooo!
[05:18] <tehpwn> the light is on
[05:18] <BluesKaj> distro-tester, just "end current session"
[05:18] <abattoir> tehpwn: good :)
[05:18] <BluesKaj> oops
[05:18] <tehpwn> i'll try to connect, see what happens
[05:18] <abattoir> tehpwn: ok
[05:19] <MidMark> DeadFishMan: it doesn't work neither with www.google.it neither with the ip number
[05:20] <DeadFishMan> MidMark: What IP address are you trying to ping? Also note that certain servers on the Net refuses ping (ICMP packets) as they can be used on a ICMP flood attack
[05:20] <tehpwn> abattoir, ok, i'm on
[05:20] <abattoir> tehpwn: works?
[05:20] <tehpwn> abattoir, appears so
[05:20] <bart132> i can't execute my code ... it says something like make doesn#t find the command "aclocal"
[05:20] <abattoir> tehpwn: ok, could you pastebin the output of 'ndiswrapper' ?
[05:20] <DeadFishMan> MidMark: They set their firewalls so that the connection attempt is either rejected (giving the network is unreachable-style of message) or just nenying it
[05:21] <DeadFishMan> *denying
[05:21] <tehpwn> abattoir, sure thing (but it's just a bunch of options)
[05:21] <abattoir> tehpwn: yeah, i want to know which one, so that it'd startup automatically(you don't need to run the command everytime)
[05:21] <MidMark> ping <IP_ADDRESS> -> google
[05:21] <MidMark> it accepts ping so it is not this the problem
[05:22] <tehpwn> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2426/  abattoir
[05:22] <sagemcr> windows
[05:22] <CaseyOmah> !xvid
[05:22] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:22] <abattoir> tehpwn: ok, run 'sudo ndiswrapper -m'
[05:22] <bart132> hmm can't anyone help me ?
[05:23] <abattoir> tehpwn: and then 'sudo depmod -a'
[05:23] <Jucato> bart132: in case no one replies soon, you can try #kdevelop
[05:23] <abattoir> bart132: what's the problem?
[05:23] <DeadFishMan> MidMark: But your problem is just that you can't ping external hosts?
[05:24] <DeadFishMan> MidMark: In other words, can you browse to that site without problems?
[05:24] <MidMark> no
[05:24] <bart132> i think it's because i'm just unknowing ... i can't execute my code it says that make doesn't know the command "aclocal"
[05:24] <Jucato> abattoir: <bart132> i can't execute my code ... it says something like make doesn#t find the command "aclocal"
[05:24] <tehpwn> abattoir, done & done
[05:25] <abattoir> bart132: i think it's a part of automake .. do you have it installed?
[05:26] <abattoir> bart132: automake-1.x
[05:26] <DeadFishMan> MidMark: Please provide further details about your problem. If just ping fails, then most likely a firewall on your end (some routers-like net appliances do have certain ports/protocols blocked on them) or a firewall in the other end is causing problems
[05:26] <bart132> uhm ... no :D
[05:26] <abattoir> tehpwn: ok, good, it should(hopefully) start automatically... w/o you having to run 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper' everytime
[05:26] <abattoir> bart132: install it :)
[05:26] <tehpwn> abattoir, awesome
[05:26] <tehpwn> thanks you so much
[05:27] <abattoir> tehpwn: no problem :)
[05:27] <tehpwn> lol
[05:27] <abattoir> hehe
[05:27] <bart132> thnx :)
[05:27] <MidMark> no ping no web
[05:27] <distro-tester> ok the mess is done will me more carefool next time fish how do i solve this adpet proble i istalled the site wike told me for wine and since then won't open any more saying try apt - get install update to solve problem
[05:27] <distro-tester> m*
[05:27] <DeadFishMan> distro-tester: Try apt-get -f install
[05:27] <distro-tester> ok
[05:28] <distro-tester> as root or normal user?
[05:28] <DeadFishMan> distro-tester: But be careful when doing that. Read carefully what apt says as it tends to remove lots of packages in order to remove what it thinks is broken dependencies
[05:28] <DeadFishMan> distro-tester: root. Either use sudo -s or su
[05:28] <distro-tester> says nothing couse dosen't recon it
[05:29] <distro-tester> im logged as root now sudo su
[05:29] <gan|y|med> hi @ all
[05:29] <gan|y|med> cpu temp question
[05:29] <distro-tester> i think i broke system again damn before was automatix to do that to adept
[05:29] <distro-tester> is there a way to recover the mess?
[05:30] <BluesKaj> geezus  automatix again
[05:30] <DeadFishMan> Gotta go now... See you later, fellas
[05:30] <distro-tester> later
[05:30] <gan|y|med> i have a nb with a pentium m (1.86 ghz). nhc shows me 55C in windows, ksenors shows me 58C. i am not that much worried about the difference, but rather if the value can be considered normal.
[05:31] <gan|y|med> can anybody please comment on this?
[05:31] <tehpwn> Is there a way I can 'bind' the 'Start Button' on my keyboard to open the kicker bar?
[05:31] <distro-tester> ok blues i tryied to put the url wiki told me for wine in adept but some thing went wrong so must find a way to open it back
[05:31] <BluesKaj> apt-get -f install, can revert to default drivers on some hardware , in my experience . or apt-get update can as well
[05:32] <gan|y|med> what temp is considered normal on a notebook with pentium m?
[05:32] <distro-tester> diden't work here hope i don't have to reinstall system again
[05:32] <BluesKaj> sorry apt-get upgrade
[05:33] <frenris> How do I unpack a passworded .rar with unrar?
[05:33] <gan|y|med> use ark
[05:33] <gan|y|med> maybe?
[05:33] <frenris> ark doesn't work with passwords
[05:33] <gan|y|med> oh, sorry. thought it would
[05:33] <abattoir> frenris: 'unrar x <file>' should work in a cli
[05:34] <frenris> x being the pw? kk
[05:34] <BluesKaj> abattoir, what do you know about this : http://ubuntustudio.org/  ?
[05:34] <abattoir> frenris: no, x is the command for 'extracting' it
[05:34] <abattoir> frenris: it'll prompt you for the password
[05:34] <gan|y|med> is there no gui programme that can handle passwds?
[05:34] <abattoir> BluesKaj: little really...
[05:35] <abattoir> BluesKaj: i haven't really been active the last few weeks, so haven't been following the stuff around much, learnt about it from Slashdot ;)
[05:36] <abattoir> gan|y|med: maybe file-roller can... not sure
[05:36] <levi__> is there any program to shrink dvdz like dvdshrink for windows
[05:36] <BluesKaj> ok abattoir , i'm looking ...should have looked before asking :)
[05:36] <levi__> so i have turn dvd from 6.8gb to 4.5gb
[05:37] <gan|y|med> not really an alternative in kde
[05:37] <distro-tester> can i use the backup manager to restore the problem whit adept or it works only if i did that before?
[05:37] <frenris> abattoir: ty
[05:38] <lenscape> !wireshark
[05:38] <ubotu> wireshark: network traffic analyzer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.3a-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 545 kB, installed size 1528 kB
[05:38] <distro-tester> !adeptfix
[05:38] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[05:38] <lenscape> 99.3a is a very old version
[05:39] <distro-tester> !adept
[05:39] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[05:39] <lenscape> !latest wireshark
[05:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about latest wireshark - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:40] <lenscape> I would like to take the good bits from kubuntu and the good bits for suse and combine them into a distro that actually works properly
[05:40] <blanck> why
[05:40] <blanck> tiago sucks
[05:41] <tiago> ?
[05:41] <tiago> ?
[05:41] <tiago> ?
[05:41] <tiago> ?
[05:41] <tiago> ?
[05:41] <lenscape> tiago: don't be a tit
[05:41] <Jiraiya> ss
[05:41] <blanck> heinrich himmler
[05:41] <Jiraiya> salut
[05:42] <chuen> Hi. Can someone remind me of the command to kill 'apt-get' pls?
[05:42] <lenscape> ctrl-c?
[05:42] <blanck> joseph goebbels
[05:42] <chuen> lenscape: ?
[05:43] <gan|y|med> any clue, why superkaramba (i know, it's not gnome) does not display temps, though lm-sensors is installed???
[05:43] <blanck> gring
[05:43] <chuen> lenscape: I did it ince before, but forgot the command.
[05:43] <blanck> rhm
[05:46] <distro-tester> so i have to reinstall kubuntu or there's a way to get adept back running?
[05:46] <blanck> hindenburg
[05:46] <distro-tester> i leared it's best to use the kubuntu back up tool for everything now
[05:47] <distro-tester> as it's 2 time i must reinstall couse i mess up adept
[05:47] <blanck> albert speer
[05:48] <Dr_willis> how are you messing up adept?
[05:48] <distro-tester> yes sorry dr
[05:48] <distro-tester> this time i putted the site wiki told me to use to get wine and now won't load
[05:48] <blanck> hess
[05:48] <distro-tester> says try apt stuff to fix it but i did and nothis
[05:48] <distro-tester> nothing*
[05:48] <Dr_willis> You mean you edited the apt.source file?
[05:48] <blanck> himmler
[05:48] <BluesKaj> !de | blanck
[05:48] <ubotu> blanck: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:48] <blanck> gring
[05:48] <blanck> goebbels
[05:48] <distro-tester> yes
[05:49] <MidMark> I've a problem: with a modem I can connects but I cannot ping anything, dns are entered, what can be the problem?
[05:49] <blanck> himmler
[05:49] <gan|y|med> how do i get superkaramba scripts to display cpu temp?
[05:49] <blanck> hitler
[05:49] <blanck> hindenburg
[05:49] <distro-tester> blanck can u shut up
[05:49] <distro-tester> im trying to solve
[05:49] <blanck> distro-tester sucks
[05:49] <distro-tester> i putted the wiki kubuntu url in adept repos dr and then made some mistake that crash it
[05:50] <blanck> distro-tester sucks
[05:50] <distro-tester> !wine
[05:50] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:50] <BluesKaj> !ops
[05:50] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, or DBO
[05:50] <puchat3k> what type of colors do i have to change to have a white on black color scheme in konverstaion? backbround is rather obvious when i change that i dont see any text
[05:50] <blanck> distro-tester sucks
[05:50] <gan|y|med> how do i get superkaramba scripts to display cpu temp??
[05:51] <Dr_willis> distro-tester,   it pays to backup your origial files befor editing things.
[05:51] <BluesKaj> !ops | blanck
[05:51] <ubotu> blanck: Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, or DBO
[05:51] <Dr_willis> distro-tester, you should be able to change it back and apt-get update, and get things going.
[05:51] <distro-tester> i discovered that now i must back up
[05:51] <gnomefreak> BluesKaj: ?
[05:51] <distro-tester> ok how i do that as nothing can fix it in terminal since now
[05:51] <Dr_willis> gan|y|med,  i imagine it depends on the superkaramba widget.
[05:51] <BluesKaj> get rid of that annoying blanck ..he disrupting
[05:52] <chuen> I have a problem with adept because it claims apt-get is still running.
[05:52] <MidMark> I've a problem: with a modem I can connects but I cannot ping anything, dns are entered, what can be the problem?
[05:52] <distro-tester> does snypetic give less problems?
[05:52] <Dr_willis> !fixadept
[05:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixadept - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:52] <chuen> It''s happened once before and someone gave me the comand to kill it.
[05:52] <MidMark> distro-tester: synaptic is far far better than adept
[05:52] <BluesKaj> thx gnomefreak
[05:52] <Dr_willis> chuen,  i cant rember the factoid either...
[05:52] <Dr_willis> !search adept
[05:52] <ubotu> Found: packages,adeptfix,adeptcrashfix,adept fix,deborphan,dpkg fix crash,adept,apt,adept fix crash,dpkg crash fix
[05:52] <Dr_willis> !adeptfix
[05:52] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[05:53] <gan|y|med> Dr_willis: most of them don't work (all except one. i have tried 10 so far).
[05:53] <distro-tester> ill use that then u can add identic stuff in it mark for repository?=
[05:53] <distro-tester> i nead the same programs as adept
[05:53] <chuen> Dr_willis: Thx
[05:54] <Sirmis> hi
[05:54] <chuen> Dr_willis: That worked OK - thanks.
[05:55] <BluesKaj> hi Sirmis , suomalainen eh ? :)
[05:55] <distro-tester> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[05:55] <MidMark> I've a problem: with a modem I can connects but I cannot ping anything, dns are entered, what can be the problem? Please help!
[05:55] <distro-tester> this is the error i get
[05:56] <Sirmis> i can't remember "vga=??" line to grub to get 1280x1024 resolution
[05:57] <BluesKaj> i know this is an obvious question distro-tester, but do you have synaptic open ?
[05:57] <distro-tester> adept i use
[05:57] <distro-tester> no btw
[05:57] <BluesKaj> ok
[05:57] <distro-tester> won't open
[05:57] <chuen> Can anyone recommend an app (with GUI) to backup Kubuntu pls?
[05:58] <BluesKaj> did you enter your password , distro-tester ?
[05:58] <distro-tester> yes
[05:58] <distro-tester> then says that
[05:58] <Sirmis> 1280x1024 32 bit shell resolution ... anyone ?
[05:58] <MidMark> I can connects, but damn no internet at all, no ping to ip, no ping to www.google.it
[05:58] <distro-tester> so u tell me all to use snypetic ?
[05:59] <distro-tester> im tired of adept crashing
[05:59] <BluesKaj> well then it's hidden and it's prolly stuck open , distro-tester , reboot pls
[05:59] <distro-tester> i did
[05:59] <Sirmis> MidMark: do you use dhcp ? or what ?
[05:59] <BluesKaj> you have to do it again to close it
[05:59] <MidMark> no it's a analogic modem
[05:59] <tehpwn> Ok, so I'm mounting my iPod in amarok... Before it connect I have to set a mount point. I chose /media/ipod... so when the ipod get plugged in what is the "Pre-Connect Command" (ex: mount %d)
[05:59] <BluesKaj> reboot
[05:59] <distro-tester> many times?
[05:59] <distro-tester> couse i did it once
[06:00] <Dr_willis> chuen,  depends on what sort of backup you want to di.
[06:00] <MidMark> Sirmis: I have entered dns but dosn't work, should I add the option "assign default route to this gateway"?
[06:00] <Dr_willis> chuen,  for a full system 'backup/restore' cd/dvd set - i tend to use Mondo/Mindi
[06:00] <BluesKaj> once should be enuff , then run sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:00] <tehpwn> repost: Ok, so I'm mounting my iPod in amarok... Before it connect I have to set a mount point. I chose /media/ipod... so when the ipod get plugged in what is the "Pre-Connect Command" (ex: mount %d)
[06:01] <chuen> Dr_willis: Well, in case my system crashes in a serious way or gets locked - to back up essentials  to external HD
[06:01] <frenris> How would I install cinelerra? I dled the .deb packages that are linked to from here http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php under "ubuntu," but when I try to install any of them I get a message saying that it depends on on the other packages.
[06:01] <chuen> Dr_willis: Yes, I could do it to CD.
[06:02] <tehpwn> !ipod
[06:02] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[06:02] <Dr_willis> chuen,  all the really imporntant stuff would be your users /home dirs.. unless you got a lot of customized configs.. so i guess ya need to decide what you want to backup and how to restore. I tend to just backup /home every so often to a spare hd.
[06:03] <gan|y|med> i have 100% cou usage, but top shows only 20-30. but the nb is running with full power. any ideas why?
[06:03] <Dr_willis> chuen,  your system shouldent 'crash' or 'get locked up' to such a extent that ya cant fix it. :)
[06:03] <chuen> Dr_willis: I'll install 'mondo' and take a look.
[06:04] <Dr_willis> chuen,  mondo/mindi work together. :)
[06:04] <chuen> Dr_willis: Just some paranoia left over from windoze daze :)
[06:04] <Dr_willis> !info mondo
[06:04] <ubotu> mondo: powerful disaster recovery suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.08-2-2 (edgy), package size 391 kB, installed size 1128 kB
[06:04] <Dr_willis> !info mindi
[06:04] <ubotu> mindi: creates boot/root disks based on your system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.09-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 152 kB, installed size 732 kB (Only available for amd64 i386 ia64)
[06:04] <chuen> Dr_willis: I'll install mindi too then :)
[06:05] <MidMark> Sirmis: the problem is the default gateway shown with command route is still <IP_ADDRESS> that was with the ethernet, now how can I set the one gives by kppp connection?
[06:05] <tehpwn> !ipod tehpwn
[06:05] <ubotu> ipod: tool for retrieving informations from iPods. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 14 kB, installed size 64 kB
[06:05] <tehpwn> !ipod | tehpwn
[06:05] <ubotu> tehpwn: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[06:06] <gan|y|med> ok, are there any issues with cpu scaling in edgy? i have nothing running except standard kde desktop and my cpu is running on full power
[06:06] <frenris> How would I install cinelerra? I dled the .deb packages that are linked to from here http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php under "ubuntu," but when I try to install any of them I get a message saying that it depends on on the other packages.
[06:06] <Sirmis> MidMark: dhcp or not ?
[06:06] <frenris> !cinelerra
[06:06] <ubotu> cinelerra is a video editor and compositor. Install instructions can be found on http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php#ubuntu
[06:07] <MidMark> Sirmis: I'm NOT with ethernet so there is no dhcp
[06:07] <MidMark> I'm with an analogic modem
[06:07] <Dr_willis> frenris,  thats part of the job of the package manager - to install addational depends as needed. doing it manually - i guess ya need to see what depends it says it needs and install them first.
[06:07] <tehpwn> !xgl | tehpwn
[06:07] <ubotu> tehpwn: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:07] <Sirmis> MidMark: have you seen "man ifconfig" ?
[06:07] <chuen> Dr_willis: Can't finf mindi or mondo in menus - are the cmd line only?
[06:08] <MidMark> Sirmis: no but if you can say to me would be great
[06:08] <Dr_willis> chuen,  yes. Time to read the homepage/docs - its a rather... powerfull tool.
[06:09] <Dr_willis> chuen,  i normally ise it after i do a clean install and sort of 'mirror' the system - so i can go back to the initial setup easially.
[06:10] <Sirmis> MidMark: if you need to set ip etc to your nic you can use ifconfig to do that
[06:10] <xera> what's the cmd to generate the md5hash of a file?
[06:10] <MidMark> Sirmis: ok so I want to configure gateway to the one that return kppp connection
[06:11] <Dr_willis> md5sum filename
[06:11] <chuen> Dr_willis: OK, ta.
[06:11] <MidMark> but ifconfig works with kppp connections?
[06:12] <unix_infidel> ifconfig works with most all interfaces :)
[06:12] <unix_infidel> even those that dont really "exist", case in point: virtual bridges :)
[06:12] <Sirmis> MidMark: sorry .. but i have no idea what you mean :/
[06:12] <MidMark> unix_infidel: ok so how can I tell to always uses the gateway returned from a kppp connection instead of <IP_ADDRESS> that is the default now?
[06:13] <frenris> Dr_willis, but how then do I get the package manager to do its job? I tell it to install one of the packages in my /home directory and it shouts but a whole list of other packages without getting them or installing the ones already in my home directory that I dled.
[06:13] <unix_infidel> MidMark: I havent done ppp since like 1995
[06:13] <MidMark> Sirmis: the problem is I have the default gateway set to "<IP_ADDRESS>" and I want to set the default to the one that dynamically return kppp every time I caonnects... is it clear?
[06:14] <unix_infidel> I'd assume kppp can do that for you.
[06:14] <Minataku> unix_infidel: You must have one massively swollen bladder
[06:14] <Minataku> *rimshot*
[06:14] <MidMark> unix_infidel: it doesn't
[06:14] <xtoxico> I have some problems with Bery/XGL and my ATI x600se... All works ok but the font on the screen is very very small, somebody with the same problem??
[06:14] <Minataku> Sorry, had to take the immature angle... it's all for the humor
[06:14] <Minataku> XD
[06:14] <MidMark> unix_infidel: it returns the gateway but the default remains <IP_ADDRESS> so I cannot connect
[06:14] <Dr_willis> frenris,  you are bypassing the  features that you are wanting, by downloading the individual packages that way. You want to let it download the  packages from a repo.
[06:14] <Minataku> xtoxico: The problem is simple... your eyes are too small
[06:14] <Minataku> XD
[06:14] <xtoxico> Xdddd
[06:15] <Dr_willis> frenris,  or you start using dpkg -i whatever.deb and hope ya get the right order/packages all installed.
[06:15] <Dr_willis> frenris,  you are trying to outsmart it. :)
[06:15] <unix_infidel> Minataku: I havent done human nutrient extraction since 1949.
[06:15] <unix_infidel> I do cold fusion exclusively :)
[06:15] <Minataku> unix_infidel: lol
[06:15] <Minataku> Touche XD
[06:15] <Dr_willis> frenris,  you could do a 'dpkg -i *.deb' if you think you got them all.
[06:15] <Minataku> xtoxico: Perhaps there's a config line you overlooked somewhere?
[06:16] <MidMark> help?
[06:16] <xtoxico> I try to change DPI resolution to 96 but It doesn't work
[06:16] <Minataku> I can't really help beyond basic troubleshooting, I've never used Beryl
[06:17] <Minataku> I just wanted to try to help to make up for the bad joke XD (Sorry, BTW X3 )
[06:18] <xera> hmm
[06:18] <xtoxico> don't worry minataku, I can work with gnome
[06:18] <xera> i can't install unrar ;s
[06:18] <xtoxico> but I like Beryl
[06:18] <Minataku> xtoxico: I'm sure if you wait around someone who can help will
[06:18] <xtoxico> I hope it
[06:19] <poningru> ca!rar
[06:19] <poningru> err
[06:19] <poningru> !unrar
[06:19] <ubotu> unrar is rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression  There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[06:19] <BluesKaj> !eyecandy
[06:19] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[06:19] <Minataku> I'm not one for resource-hogging, ugly, massively-useless UIs
[06:19] <Minataku> If I wanted one I'd switch back to Vista
[06:20] <Minataku> s/back//
[06:20] <xtoxico> vista Sucks!!
[06:20] <Minataku> But that's all just my opinion
[06:20] <poningru> Minataku: beauty of beryl: all the benefits of os x/vista (and more) without the bloat
[06:20] <Minataku> Yeah, but as far as completely useless UIs go, Vista is top of the heap
[06:21] <Minataku> poningru: That's where my thinking differs, I don't see a UI that requires a high-end graphics card to be non-bloated or beneficial
[06:21] <poningru> ... it doesnt need a high end card
[06:21] <MidMark> guys none that uses kppp? How can I add the default gateway returned by the connection?
[06:21] <Minataku> It's already using more resources than is required for something that shouldn't really be seen more than it absolutely needs to
[06:22] <Minataku> I use Fluxbox, BTW, to put what I mean into perspective
[06:22] <poningru> ah gotcha
[06:22] <BluesKaj> I just make sure i have a nice pic for desktop background ...that's all the graphics trickery i need :)
[06:22] <Minataku> BluesKaj: Indeed
[06:22] <Minataku> I load one up via xv then leave it on the root window
[06:22] <xtoxico> touche!!
[06:23] <Minataku> Speaking of, it's been... uh
[06:23] <Minataku>  12:21:30 up 25 days, 23:13,  6 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.05, 0.36
[06:23] <Minataku> 25d since last change
[06:23] <Minataku> lol
[06:23] <surgy> !nvidia
[06:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:23] <Minataku> Almost 26d
[06:23] <Minataku> Hm
[06:23] <Minataku> !xv
[06:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:24] <Minataku> No xv?! Blasphemy!
[06:24] <MidMark> How can I add the default gateway returned by a kppp connection?
[06:24] <xtoxico> another question..... Fglrx or dri for ATI's cards??
[06:25] <xera> hmm
[06:25] <Xera> can i resize my linux partition while it's running?
[06:25] <xtoxico> Xera: NO, you cannot
[06:26] <dust> Xera: if it's lvm, you can
[06:26] <Xera> then how do i change the size? -.-
[06:26] <Xera> dust: lvm?
[06:26] <dust> logical volume manager (?)
[06:26] <dust> something along those lines
[06:26] <Xera> and how do i check that?
[06:27] <Dr_willis> this line of questions is getting scary. :)
[06:27] <xtoxico> the most simple than you can do is download de LiveCd Gpart!
[06:27] <frenris_> Xera: ya just get a gparted livecd
[06:27] <Minataku> Changed!
[06:27] <frenris_> !gparted
[06:27] <Xera> damn it
[06:27] <ubotu> gparted is gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "sudo apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[06:27] <Xera> lol
[06:28] <Xera> ok back in a bit
[06:28] <dust> Xera: uhm... sudo lvm -> lvdisplay I think
[06:28] <dust> I guess if "lvm" gives you error messages, you don't use it
[06:28] <dust> :P
[06:29] <Admiral_Chicago_> i'm trying to sync my google contacts with Kmail, any way to do it
[06:29] <Balsamic_Chicken> hey guys, anyone know a solution to the problem here<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:29] <dust> hmmm are there any way of using gparted with lvm?
[06:30] <xtoxico> dust: I think so
[06:30] <dust> xtoxico: if I just launch gparted, it shows as a unrecongnized lvm volume
[06:32] <xtoxico> dust: Ouch!
[06:32] <tehpwn> !ipod | tehpwn
[06:32] <ubotu> tehpwn: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[06:32] <frenris_> !pastebin
[06:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:32] <prower> Hello :> I recently upgraded to 6.10, and lately I've had a lot of problems with Kaffeine...specifically it seems as if the system's locking up randomly a lot of the times that I use it :/ Anyone else had this problem?
[06:33] <dust> oh, forgot to mention: I'm using luks (?) to encrypt all my partitions 'cept for /boot
[06:35] <xtoxico> dust: I'm wrong, Gparted cannot use with LVM
[06:35] <xtoxico> look this http://gparted.sourceforge.net/larry/generalities/gparted.htm
[06:36] <renato> so, I'm having trouble installing webmin, anyone, any pointers_
[06:36] <renato> ?
[06:36] <dust> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=293299
[06:36] <dust> renato: what sort of problems?
[06:37] <renato> well I downloaded the deb package from their site and when I run the install it stumbles upon dependency issues
[06:37] <xtoxico> ciao dust
[06:37] <renato> and if I try to sudo apt-get install the "dependencies" they are broken or don't exist
[06:37] <Balsamic_Chicken> hey guys, anyone know a solution to the problem here<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:37] <dust> xtoxico: later
[06:38] <dust> renato: got similar problems myself - getting the feeling that *buntu respositories are way outdated and old
[06:39] <renato> yes
[06:42] <Dr_willis> renato,  you may want to use the sources for webmin from the webmin site.
[06:42] <Dr_willis> renato,  not the packages.
[06:42] <Dr_willis> webmin is sort of not gettting much support from ubuntu/debian any more.
[06:43] <Bipolar> renato: iirc, the deb on webmins site is made for debian, not ubuntu. hence, it's looking for old packages that ubuntu does not carry.
[06:43] <Bipolar> I always end up using the install script.
[06:43] <Bipolar> even on debian
[06:43] <Dr_willis> even debian i think is  getting where they dont support webmin any more i recall
[06:44] <Bipolar> webmin updates things a lot faster then debian does, and packages just don't get built. the script is the way to go.
[06:44] <renato> thanks Dr_willis, I also noticed I had my universe and multiverse repositories commented, I just uncommented them, It might come up now with sudo apt-get install
[06:44] <Dr_willis> renato,  with webmin - you are best to either - not use it... :) or use the lastest sources...
[06:48] <Goliath23> hi
[06:49] <Dr_willis> Howdies
[06:49] <Goliath23> I try to install kubuntu or ubuntu server 6.06 on a brand new HP system. The installer has problems mounting the cdrom so I tried another cdrom, same problem. Now I guess the problem is the ide driver on the mainboard. what possibilities do I have?
[06:51] <Dr_willis> could try the alternative /text based cd. and you may want to try the latest edgy eft version of the cd's
[06:51] <Dr_willis> i think they are version 6.10 (i always get the #'s messed up)
[06:51] <Goliath23> where do I find the latest text base install of ubuntu/kubuntu? I need text base installation since I want to configure a software raid 1
[06:52] <Dr_willis> ubuntu/kubuntu download sites have them
[06:52] <Goliath23> I tried 6.10 already I think. but hey, I'll give it another try
[06:52] <tehpwn> Has anybody seen the new ATHF episodes? F'n hillarious!!!
[06:52] <Dr_willis> its the 'alternative isntall cd'
[06:53] <_BlackHawk_> hi
[06:53] <_BlackHawk_> all
[06:53] <Goliath23> tehpwn: ATF?
[06:53] <Goliath23> ATHF?
[06:53] <renato> thanks, Dr_willis, any other console for server admin you recommend that might be more "ubuntu friendly"?
[06:53] <Dr_willis> a cartoon.
[06:54] <Dr_willis> renato,  i ve gotten away from relying on those things. :) ive used webmin in the past with good success.. just be sure to secure it tightly.
[06:54] <tehpwn> Goliath23, ATHF!!! Aqua Teen Hunger Force
[06:55] <Dr_willis> renato,  with vnc - you can remote in and do stuff that way :) is now i normally do it these days
[06:55] <renato> thanks Dr_willis, i'll look into it
[06:55] <Dr_willis> renato,  or just ssh in and run whatever gui tools ya want. :)
[06:56] <renato> yeah, but I don't seem to find much gui tools
[06:56] <MidMark> ok the problem was that I have to disable network interface, but I don't like so much this solution, there is a better way to chnage default gateway?
[06:56] <Dr_willis> ive found kde gui tools for about everything i need to do.
[06:56] <Dr_willis> but its often faster to do it with the shell. :)
[06:56] <renato> that's why I stuck kubuntu-desktop on my server (Sacrillege, I know)
[06:59] <qwe> hello
[06:59] <BluesKaj> not sacrilege, it's still linux ...a windows server would be sacrilege :)
[06:59] <renato> heheh
[06:59] <renato> I can't afford that
[06:59] <qwe> somebody know how i can have sound preview in konqueror?
[07:00] <BluesKaj> we have too many so called purists around anyway :)
[07:00] <Dr_willis> Blasphmy!
[07:00] <Dr_willis> next you will be saying we need fancy 3d wiggly windows on the desktop!
[07:00] <qwe> ???
[07:00] <Dr_willis> and animated 'fire explosions' when you close a window!
[07:00] <BluesKaj> beryl luvvers !
[07:00] <Dr_willis> and a 3d-Cube to change desktops
[07:00] <qwe> nodody?
[07:01] <renato> wouldn't  it be fun :P
[07:01] <BluesKaj> qwe, what do you mean sound preview ?
[07:01] <Dr_willis> qwe,  never looked into it.. never wanted it. :)  check the forums perhaps? or #kde - or the Kubuntu Faq - there may be some package you need to install.
[07:01] <qwe> in preview
[07:01] <qwe> I acivated sound preview
[07:02] <Dr_willis> i recall seeing a similer feature with gnome - but to get it working with mp3's some other packatges needed to be isntalled.
[07:02] <qwe> bat when i go wih the mouse on mp3 file ---> no sound
[07:02] <Dr_willis> does it work with wavs ?
[07:02] <qwe> no
[07:02] <Dr_willis> the Kubuntu Faq - mention packaged needing to be isntalled for mp3 support.
[07:02] <qwe> no wav ogg mp3
[07:03] <renato> lame
[07:03] <qwe> i can read the mpe (libxine-extracodecs
[07:03] <qwe> mp3
[07:03] <qwe> and libmad
[07:03] <renato> not as in "you are lame" though
[07:03] <qwe> is installed
[07:04] <qwe> maybe I forgot some package
[07:05] <ctothej> I need some with mounting. I had fstab mounting 2 ntfs drives with ntfs-3g, but after i plugged in a usb flash drive and restarted, the drives changed from being on /dev/sdd to /dev/sde ! how can i make it so that they dont change? or that it mounts the particular volumes all the time no matter what else is plugged in?
[07:05] <ctothej> *help
[07:05] <Dr_willis> ctothej,  you using edgy eft?
[07:05] <ctothej> yes
[07:05] <renato> !help
[07:05] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:05] <qwe> ctothej: use a UUID
[07:05] <Dr_willis> You can set the fstab files to mount things based on the UUID and other 'drive' identifiers. not just the /dev/whatever name
[07:06] <Dr_willis> ive even set up fstab to use the drives Label. not uuid
[07:06] <ctothej> how do I go about getting the UUID of those drives?
[07:06] <ctothej> Dr_willis: that would be great
[07:06] <qwe> ctothej: read teh man
[07:06] <Dr_willis> I belive theres a wiki page on it also.
[07:06] <ctothej> qwe: man for fstab? or what?
[07:06] <Dr_willis> i learned a lot about it from a chapter in 'Ubuntu Hacks'
[07:06] <ForgeAus> hey Dr Willis :)
[07:07] <Dr_willis> theres some rather odd command (that i can never rember) that tells ya all the 'info' on the disk.
[07:07] <user3> Dr_willis: Ubuntu hacks? what is it?
[07:07] <qwe> 1 second
[07:07] <Dr_willis> user3,  a book. :)
[07:07] <Dr_willis> its allready a little out of date.
[07:07] <user3> :) thanks how you got any url for download ?
[07:07] <Dr_willis> go to the bookstore... buy it... :)
[07:08] <user3> ;) yes sure :D
[07:08] <Dr_willis> its an Orieally book. it may be on their digital libaray
[07:10] <cesar_> hello room
[07:12] <qwe> Dr_willis: how is the pgk for have more utils in konqueror (term here,create a .war archive  )
[07:12] <Dr_willis> Huh?
[07:12] <qwe> in kubuntu
[07:13] <qwe> i tried with konq-addons
[07:13] <qwe> but isn't this
[07:13] <Dr_willis> I belive the Kubuntu Faq - mentions some packages that add on the  default-kde type extras/profiles and other tools.
[07:13] <qwe> ok
[07:14] <qwe> konqueror to me
[07:14] <Skrot> What's the name of the flash 9 package in edgy backport?
[07:14] <qwe> ^_^
[07:14] <Dr_willis> !flash9
[07:14] <ubotu> flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[07:14] <qwe> flashplayer-nonfree
[07:15] <ctothej> UUID works like a charm... found them in device manager.
[07:15] <alex_767> ciao
[07:15] <qwe> ciap alex_767
[07:15] <qwe> ciao alex_767
[07:15] <Skrot> qwe: There's only flashplugin-nonfree and it's 7.0.68~ubuntu3
[07:15] <ctothej> Now what about full access for my user account for smb network mapped drives?
[07:15] <alex_767> .............qualcuno sa dirmi come impostare skypecast su kubuntu............????
[07:16] <CVirus> !backports
[07:16] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[07:16] <Dr_willis> ctothej,  smb shares on the linux box? be sure to give the user a smb password with 'sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME'
[07:16] <qwe> Skrot: u need a new repository
[07:16] <Skrot> I've got "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-backports main universe multiverse restricted"
[07:17] <Dr_willis> !easysource
[07:17] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:17] <alex_767> ho visto che ho bisogno di d-bus....
 qwe: There's only flashplugin-nonfree and it's 7.0.68~ubuntu3
[07:17] <CVirus> Skrot: make sure you apt-get update after you enable backports
[07:18] <ctothej> Dr_willis: that command will add a user to an allowed smb access list?
[07:18] <CVirus> !flash
[07:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:18] <Skrot> CVirus: Weird, I thought I'd already updated..
[07:19] <Skrot> but it worked
[07:19] <CVirus> fine
[07:19] <Skrot> But the download fails
[07:19] <CVirus> same here .. hehe
[07:19] <Skrot> dang, i'll just do it the old fashion way then :p
[07:20] <CVirus> Skrot: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash
[07:20] <alex_767> ....forse devo installare qualcosa....
[07:20] <Dr_willis> ctothej,  it will give them a samba password to the linux box.. what shares and stuf they can actually access on the linux box. depends on how you have the samba config file setup.
[07:21] <Dr_willis> ctothej,  the users home dir - may or may not be set up as default to be a share for them.
[07:21] <ctothej> Dr_willis: don't really have it set up. i just use smbfs in fstab to mount the network drive.
[07:22] <Dr_willis> ctothej,  you are accessing a LINUX share? or a share on a windows box?  what i am talking about is to let windows users access shares on a Linux box.
[07:22] <ctothej> Dr_willis: no, accessing a windows share from linux.
[07:22] <ctothej> Dr_willis: its an smb share, a buffalo linkstation NAS box.
[07:23] <Dr_willis> ctothej,  then you either mount the thing. :) or use that FUSE samba stuff.. or a share browser like smb4k. or the smb:\ feature of konwueror... or proberly other ways...
[07:23] <ctothej> Dr_willis: i have mounted it. but only root has rwx access.
[07:23] <ctothej> Dr_willis: i want to have my user account have full access.
[07:24] <jeroen__> hi all can someone help me? i cant change my screen resolution:( and cant fint how to at the wiki page
[07:28] <jeroen__> hi all can someone help me i cant change my screen resolution anymore.. how cn i do that? i know i have to restart x orso but nothing shows up at wiki
[07:30] <kkerwin> jeroen__: Try xrandr from the command line.
[07:31] <kkerwin> jeroen__: You may need to install xrandr, with a "sudo apt-get install xrandr" first.
[07:31] <jeroen__> ok
[07:32] <kkerwin> jeroen__: Then just look at the manpage. I can't remember the specifics of it.
[07:32] <jeroen__> does that work on Ubuntu>?
[07:32] <kkerwin> jeroen__: Yes.
[07:32] <jeroen__> well it didnt download anything
[07:32] <kkerwin> jeroen__: Are you using the command line or a graphical interface to apt?
[07:32] <jeroen__> do i need to restart x?
[07:33] <jeroen__> i'm using a terminal
[07:33] <jeroen__> i just upgate to 6.06
[07:33] <Minataku> xrandr can change the X resoltion on the fly
[07:33] <kkerwin> jeroen__: Alright. Must already be downloaded. Take a look at xrandr's manpage, and then try running.
[07:34] <kkerwin> Minataku: Thanks. Forgot to explain that part. :-)
[07:34] <Minataku> It's a lifesaver for things like misbehaving apps that change the resolution then doesn't change it back or crashes and leaves you with a tiny box
[07:34] <Minataku> lol
[07:34] <jeroen__> it shows difrent ....x....x....
[07:34] <Minataku> jeroen__: What's your normal resolution?
[07:35] <jeroen__> dont know its to big normally i have more picsels
[07:35] <Minataku> Well, type xrandr
[07:35] <Minataku> It should give you a list
[07:35] <jeroen__> ok
[07:35] <jeroen__> yes
[07:35] <jeroen__> it shows
[07:35] <Minataku> Pick one
[07:35] <Minataku> When you find the right one, remember it's number
[07:35] <Minataku> lol
[07:35] <kkerwin> jeroen__: Then type xrandr -s (NUMBER OF WHAT YOU PICKED)
[07:36] <Goliath23> is there a possibility to install kubuntu from within another bootdisk or distribution.
[07:36] <kkerwin> jeroen__: Without the ()'s
[07:37] <jeroen__> it sais comand not found
[07:37] <kkerwin> err?
[07:37] <Goliath23> let's say I boot from a gentoo minimal bootrom (which detects my motherboards ide chipset) and then install kubuntu?
[07:37] <Minataku> Then you need to install xrandr first
[07:38] <kkerwin> Minataku: But I thought he had it installed?
[07:38] <jeroen__> it wont download bcouse it is already there
[07:38] <Minataku> Goliath23: Or you can follow the handbook and use Gentoo instead :D
[07:38] <Minataku> jeroen__: ...
[07:38] <kkerwin> jeroen__: Check spelling?
[07:38] <jeroen__> but do i have to type xrandr 1 or 2 or 3?
[07:39] <kkerwin> jeroen__: Try "xrandr -s 1"
[07:39] <dromer> Q: I have this 'public' htpc in the kitchen, and the public-user's konsole can't do lots of stuff, like scrolling back woth arrow left or up
[07:39] <dromer> how can I edit this users konsole account so I can use the konsole most efficiently, because this kind of sucks
[07:39] <Minataku> dromer: You have an X terminal in your kitchen? :o
[07:40] <weedar> I want to make a poster for an office, is there a fast & easy tool to curve text? Like curve it around a circle
[07:40] <dromer> Minataku: no a htpc running kubuntu edgy, for watching movies, listening music etc
[07:40] <Minataku> Oh
[07:40] <jeroen__> well it syays big...
[07:40] <dromer> I use the konsole occasionally, but even sshing to this chat or using my sudoer account (ssh into the machine itself :P) kind of sucks
[07:41] <jeroen__> it works but i need a hier resolution
[07:41] <jeroen__> Higher
[07:41] <kkerwin> jeroen__: Try "xrandr -s 0"
[07:41] <jeroen__> ok
[07:41] <Minataku> jeroen__: Pick a number that corresponds to a higher resolution
[07:41] <Minataku> Like 0, yeah
[07:41] <jeroen__> i want even smaller:d
[07:41] <kkerwin> jeroen__: 0 is the highest that your current xorg.conf file will allow. If that is too small, then we will need to edit your xorg.conf file.
[07:42] <kkerwin> jeroen__: OK.
[07:42] <jeroen__> i could do it erlier
[07:42] <kkerwin> jeroen__: One second ...
[07:42] <Minataku> dromer: I think the conf on your htpc is screwed up, but I really can't imagine why Konsole wouldn't do such
[07:42] <Minataku> I'm banking on misconfiguration, though
[07:43] <kkerwin> jeroen__: "sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:43] <jeroen__> ok i try
[07:43] <dromer> Minataku: it's just on the public users acccount, when I ssh into the machine using my sudoer I can do anything I want
[07:43] <kkerwin> jeroen__: Then find the "screen section"
[07:43] <dromer> ok, dinertime, bbl
[07:44] <kkerwin> Add a new "SubSection Display"
[07:44] <kkerwin> jeroen__: Under that, add "Depth 24"
[07:45] <kkerwin> jeroen__: Under that add "Modes 1280x1024"
[07:45] <kkerwin> jeroen__: Then "EndSubsection"
[07:45] <jeroen__> i cant add something
[07:45] <jeroen__> do i have to enter
[07:46] <kkerwin> jeroen__: Hit the "i" button
[07:46] <kkerwin> jeroen__: It should then say "-- INPUT --"
[07:46] <jeroen__> yes
[07:46] <kkerwin> jeroen__: Now make your edits.
[07:47] <jeroen__> donno what to pick ist there something on wiki?
[07:47] <kkerwin> jeroen__: I'm not sure. You should be fine with the edits I gave you, though.
[07:48] <jeroen__> i cant edit i'm in some kind of menu
[07:48] <kkerwin> jeroen__: Alright. We're going to use an easier editor.
[07:48] <jeroen__> how do u restart x?
[07:49] <kkerwin> jeroen__: We need to chang ethe config before we can restart X
[07:49] <jeroen__> ok
[07:49] <kkerwin> jeroen__: Start a new terminal.
[07:49] <kkerwin> jeroen__: Do "sudo killall vim"
[07:49] <kkerwin> jeroen__: Then "sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[07:49] <Minataku> Never, ever suggest vi or emacs to a new Linux user
[07:49] <kkerwin> Minataku: Ya. Lesson learned ... :-)
[07:50] <Minataku> nano is the editor of choice for new and expert alike
[07:50] <ForgeAus> pico nano
[07:50] <Minataku> Considering it actually EDITS without fancy s!!! to memorize
[07:50] <Minataku> But then I'm just of the mind that an editor should facilitate easy editing of things ;3
[07:50] <kkerwin> jeroen__: Got kate started?
[07:51] <ForgeAus> ahh yes kate
[07:51] <kkerwin> Minataku: I'm also of the opinion that when in doubt, go graphical. :-)
[07:51] <Minataku> kkerwin: Bah
[07:51] <Minataku> lol
[07:51] <kkerwin> lol
[07:52] <jeroen__> no
[07:52] <Minataku> You don't need X if you have nano
[07:52] <Minataku> Really, you don't need X period
[07:52] <Minataku> It's more of a nice thing to have
[07:52] <jeroen__> prolly have to intall kate
[07:52] <kkerwin> jeroen__: Try "sudo kwrite /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[07:53] <jeroen__> installing kate