[00:00] <Tech_Support> GOMI do they both connect to one graphics card or two seperate ones?
[00:00] <dr_willis> GOMI,  dosent boot.. or boots but you just dont see a display?   what video card., laptop? desktop?  tried sshing in to see what messages are there?
[00:00] <Xenophon> Trying to increase the resolution of tty sessions. I'm not finding anything useful... Any ideas?
[00:00] <GOMI> Tech_Support, one card but difffernt connectors one on vga other on dvi
[00:01] <culler> messed up my sound, now alsa doesn't even run even after i reinstall it, aplay -l says no soundcards found as well, anyone have any suggestions?
[00:01] <triplc> hi all
[00:01] <GOMI> dr_willis, yes boot but no display , its a desktop with nvidia 8500gt card , one connected on vga other with dvi
[00:01] <Gunz4MiPPle> mayko: is that usb headset?
[00:02] <Tech_Support> I have a similar problem except mine is where I have four screens on two graphics cards, and no I don't do that crossfire b***s***
[00:02] <dr_willis> GOMI,  You do have the nvidia drivers installed?
[00:02] <mayko> Gunz4MiPPle: no; it is an audio jack
[00:02] <GOMI> dr_willis, yes ubuntu is working fine now for a couple of months , i just wanted to put an extra screen
[00:03] <Colby_> booting from CD: I see ubuntu name with 5 dots cycling red to white...it's been doing this for a few minutes. How long is it supposed to take?
[00:03] <triplc> how to fix "Sorry, could not display all the contents of "trash": Operation not supported"" of nautilus ? i am using ubuntu 10.04. I can see that ~/.local/share/Trash/files exists
[00:03] <coz_> Colby_,  not that long
[00:03] <coz_> Colby_,  reboot and test again
[00:03] <Colby_> coz_: k. thanks
[00:03] <dr_willis> GOMI,  id ssh in, check the x logs. odd that its not even showing grub, or the bios/post display?    try toying with the nvidia-xconfig tool and restart the x server to see if you can get it going.
[00:03] <Tech_Support> try disconnecting the screen and then boot ubuntu and then reconnect it while it's running and configure it from there
[00:03] <dr_willis> GOMI,  is this a laptop?
[00:03] <Tech_Support> IDK
[00:04] <Tech_Support> dr willis is getting somewhere
[00:04] <dr_willis> if laptop - toy with the fn keys to toggle the monitors..
[00:04] <dr_willis> seen some default to  the wrong one/not configured monitors in the past.
[00:04] <GOMI> dr_willis,  no a dekstop. but ill check that what you said but do i need to use twinview program or something ?
[00:05] <coz_> GOMI, if you want dual monitors  yes twinview is the way to go
[00:05] <dr_willis> twinview is a nvidia setting.. not a program.  nvidia-settings is the X gui tool , nvidia-xconfig is the non-x gui tool.. (go figure that one out)
[00:06] <coz_> dr_willis,  sorry for butting in
[00:06] <Colby_> coz_: I rebooted and got list of options: I chose "try without installing". Now I have blinking underscore cursor in upper left.
[00:06] <Tech_Support> I use ati graphics cards and that problem seems to sort itself out fine
[00:06] <xcoder> how to open another SSH session from an opened one
[00:06] <coz_> Colby_,  oh , you are booting with live cd ...yes?
[00:06] <GOMI> coz_, ok
[00:06] <Colby_> yes
[00:06] <xcoder> without having to go through the connection.... entirely
[00:06] <dr_willis> GOMI,  somthing like --> sudo nvidia-xconfig --enable-all-gpus
[00:06] <Tech_Support> except for the fact that the other graphics card isn't enabled
[00:07] <dr_willis> then restart the X servers/gdm
[00:07] <coz_> Colby_,  ah ok,, mmm... did you check the md5sum for the iso before burning it?
[00:07] <mrgenixus> I want to do something crazy -- don't bother telling me it's crazy, I'd like to get the absolute minimum ubuntu in a zip file; can anyone assist?
[00:07] <dr_willis>  absolute minimum ubuntu - is vague....
[00:07] <Gunz4MiPPle> anyone else have suspend problems
[00:07] <Colby_> coz_ I'll DL again and reburn it
[00:07] <GOMI> dr_willis, thnx ill check that
[00:07] <coz_> GOMI,   if you want to enable twinview dynaimically,, simply open nvidia-settings, X Server Display Configuration
[00:08] <coz_> Colby_,  let me get the hashes for you hold on
[00:08] <Gunz4MiPPle> half the time suspend works and i get a blinking power light, which is good, and half the time it just turns off the screen, and wont ever return till i hard reboot
[00:08] <dr_willis> GOMI,  in theory - you can attatch a monitor after the system boots. then run the nvidia-settings tool  but ive had that not work with some pcs
[00:08] <coz_> Colby_,     https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[00:08] <coz_> Colby_,  there is also the mini iso 19 megs  and is net install
[00:08] <lion42> Gunz4MiPPle, what kind of computer do you have, and what version of ubuntu? that's a known issue with several laptops, AFAIK.
[00:09] <coz_> !mini | Colby_
[00:09] <rww> dr_willis: !fx6 now exists
[00:09] <Gunz4MiPPle> lion42: its natty, and the its an HP dv9429US
[00:09] <Gunz4MiPPle> and i will warn the world not to purchase one
[00:10] <dr_willis> !ff6
[00:10] <lion42> Gunz4MiPPle, http://www.jordanpeterson.me/node/235
[00:10] <dr_willis> rww,  and theres much rejoiceing by those who have not switched to chrome. :)
[00:12] <axisys> is there a tool to find out some details about my encrypted home dir? like what algorithm and stuff.. newbie
[00:12] <Gunz4MiPPle> lion42: thats for ATI, but thanks for looking :)
[00:12] <Gunz4MiPPle> will evernote work on this new FF maybe
[00:12] <lion42> Gunz4MiPPle, sorry. If you try searching further you may find a similar solution.
[00:13] <Gunz4MiPPle> lion42: yeah, it could be the graphics driver, or maybe another driver that burps on unloading
[00:13] <Xenophon> Is it possible to make xorg detet tty resolutions?
[00:13] <Gunz4MiPPle> i do recall  fooling around with the suspend before and after files
[00:13] <Gunz4MiPPle> maybe i broke something
[00:14] <urlin2u> Gunz4MiPPle, if not you can try the add on nightly tester tools
[00:15] <kingofswords> hi i have pulseaudio and its stopping audio in wine
[00:16] <Gunz4MiPPle> urlin2u: it will run, it just wont do anything anymore
[00:16] <Gunz4MiPPle> so i been using springpad, which is much purtier
[00:16] <urlin2u> Gunz4MiPPle, talking about evernote
[00:16] <Gunz4MiPPle> yeah
[00:17] <Gunz4MiPPle> afk im going mobile
[00:19] <coz_> dr_willis,  hey guys,, again apologies for butting, i just logged on and starting typing :(
[00:19] <coz_> butting in rather
[00:19] <Colby_> coz_ mini seems to be loading okay. asked a bunch of questions, not downloading files. Can I run this without installing it on a hard drive?
[00:19] <Colby_> *NOW downloading files
[00:19] <coz_> Colby_,  no this is not a live cd
[00:19] <Colby_> oh
[00:19] <coz_> Colby_,  this is an install cd,,  are you concerned about the install
[00:20] <Colby_> i was trying to run without installing actuall
[00:20] <coz_> Colby_,  ooooo,, sorry then,,  I was thinking you couldnt install because the live cd wouldnt allow it
[00:21] <Tech_Support> can someone help me try and figure out how to enable both ati graphics cards without the screen going black when I reeboot?
[00:21] <Colby_> coz_ can it dual boot or do i need to find a hard drive?
[00:21] <mayko> anyone have advice re: microphones?
[00:21] <coz_> Colby_,  it can dual boot yes,,
[00:21] <FriGiN> been having grub problems, ubuntu 11.04 and windows 7. Grub was saying error: cannot get C/H/S values and error device not found *string of numbers/letters identifying my hdd im sure*
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> mayko: let me review the link
[00:21] <coz_> Colby_,  it should have  given you options for that
[00:21] <Colby_> coz_ k. that'll work
[00:21] <urlin2u> colby is this what you want.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1549847
[00:22] <ubuntu> hi im now on my ubuntu usb live how can i install it in to my usb and not make it live any mre
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> mayko: use the maverick command here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[00:22] <coz_> Colby_, phew :)  I was thinking you were going to be the one to condemn my support techiques :)
[00:22] <urlin2u> Colby_, is this what you want.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1549847
[00:22] <Colby_> coz_ it hasn't asked for that yet. "detecting hardware" atm
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> mayko: it should update your Alsa and may help
[00:22] <coz_> Colby_,  ok  eventually you will get a list of things you can install,,, arrow keys scroll and the "Space" bar will tick the box,, I suggest only ubuntu-desktop for now
[00:23] <mayko> I'll try it, thanks :)
[00:23] <DasEi> ubuntu:check sudo fdisk -l for /dev of usb , install to there and be carefull when it comes to grub-install so you don't put grub on your internal, first hd
[00:23] <Colby_> coz_ it wants to repartition the drive. I don't mind booting from CD. It's just for testing
[00:24] <ubuntu> is there an insructions to follow ?
[00:24] <ubuntu> step by step
[00:24] <ubuntu> so i dont stuff up
[00:24] <coz_> Colby_,  yeah that is the part where you can dual boot. however if you dont want that quit now and re download the live cd and makde sure you check the md5sum for the iso first
[00:24] <coz_> Colby_,  i you dont know how to check that , let me know
[00:25] <coz_> Colby_,  there should be a free  md5sum check for windows if that is the OS you are working on
[00:25] <Colby_> coz_ yeah. I think I'll do that. repartitioning the drive sounds more involved than I wanted for a test
[00:25] <coz_> Colby_,  actually it does it pretty simply  but yeah , if you arent sure stop now
[00:25] <ubuntu> i think i found it
[00:25] <Colby_> coz_ I'll reDL and reburn the disc
[00:25] <ubuntu> 1 sec
[00:25] <ubuntu> let me read it
[00:25] <coz_> Colby_,  cool
[00:26] <Colby_> coz_ thanks for the info
[00:26] <coz_> Colby_,  check the md5sum before burning the iso however,, and no problem that's why we are all here ...
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> Colby_: using torrents adds extra checks so will help get a good image
[00:27] <coz_> ^^^
[00:28] <FriGiN> having trouble with grub, how do i go back to window7 loader with ubuntu listed?
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> FriGiN: in ubuntu run: sudo apt-get install os-prober; sudo os-prober; sudo update-grub
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> FriGiN: do you see the windows OS listed?
[00:29] <FriGiN> gub gives me an error and doesnt load anything
[00:29] <ubuntu> i want it on drive  /dev/sdb
[00:29] <ubuntu> how can i do that ?
[00:29] <FriGiN> grub my fault.. gives me the error: cannot get C/H/S values error
[00:30] <urlin2u> FriGiN, do you have multiple HD's
[00:30] <dr_willis> FriGiN,  is this a very old system?
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu: http://www.robertbeal.com/562/rebuilding-grub2-grub-cfg-from-ubuntu-live-cd
[00:30] <ubuntu> ty
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu: just use /dev/sdb in the guide
[00:31] <ubuntu> ActionParsnip:  :)
[00:31] <escott> FriGiN, how large is this drive?
[00:32] <znh> Ubuntu LTS 10.04 user here experiencing locks ups during Firefox (with flash) usage
[00:33] <znh> the system becomes unresponsive and requires a hard reboot in order to continue functionality
[00:34] <Vanillalite> Hey can you easily edit PDFs using Libre Office now?
[00:34] <urlin2u> znh, what sre your cpu and memory specs?
[00:34] <Sebo> Hi, I am writing /etc/init/*.conf file for the job that is supposed to run VBox VM. I'm almost done but I have a problem causing that the job can not be stoped.
[00:35] <znh> urlin2u: E6600/2GB
[00:35] <Sebo> it always respawns after calling # stop JOB
[00:35]  * Bsims rants I want to listen to the bbc world service and their browser won't let me I want to pay for it as I am in america... any ideas?
[00:35] <urlin2u> znh, try adding the FF adon flash aid.
[00:35] <urlin2u> addon
[00:35] <ubuntu> /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot stat `aufs'.
[00:36] <ubuntu> i get this
[00:36] <ubuntu> y ?
[00:37] <escott> ubuntu, sounds like grub is missing some modules but you shouldn't need the aufs component anyways
[00:37] <ubuntu> how do i fix it
[00:37] <dr_willis> Bsims,  i get the bbc news from many usa stations web sites..  or the google chrome webapplet
[00:38] <ubuntu> all im trying to do is turn my live usb in to a normal distro
[00:38] <escott> ubuntu, are you running a stock kernel?
[00:38] <ubuntu> everything is stock
[00:38] <ubuntu> yes
[00:38] <ubuntu> i just downloaded ubuntu  and make a live usb
[00:38] <ubuntu> i want 2 turn the live usb in the a normal distro
[00:38] <escott> ubuntu, ok then yes you would need aufs. im not sure this would work. what exactly do you want to do
[00:38] <The_Rufus> Hey there, is there anyone here willing to help me install Ubuntu Server 11 on a flash drive, with a 10Tb RAID5 array as my "home" directory? I'll need to know how to get the drivers installed
[00:39] <escott> The_Rufus, is your raid controller supported by dmraid
[00:39] <ubuntu> i was sent here http://www.robertbeal.com/562/rebuilding-grub2-grub-cfg-from-ubuntu-live-cd
[00:39] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: Do you have another USB drive you can use? It's difficult (though not impossible) to install to the same drive you're booted from.
[00:39] <ga_pro1988> i set backtrack 4 but why it don't sounds????
[00:39] <ubuntu> and this didnt help me
[00:39] <Sebo> I defined 3 proceses for that job: pre-start, main & pre-stop . At pre-stop I send the 'close' signal to the main process that tels it to seve its state and quit. I expected that eyrlier finish of the main (while pre-stop is running) would not cause main to be respawned. Hovever it do.
[00:39] <Seq> Is there any way to use ufw (or iptables directly) to only allow outgoing traffic that passes through a specific gateway? I want to disable most internet activity if I'm not connected to my VPN
[00:39] <Jordan_U> !backtrack | ga_pro1988
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> ga_pro1988: backtrack isn't supported here in any way
[00:39] <The_Rufus> Highpoint RocketRaid 2320
[00:40] <bazhang> ga_pro1988, join the backtrack channel for that
[00:40] <ubuntu> yes i have another usb
[00:40] <The_Rufus> Installing from a CD onto a 4Gb USB flash drive
[00:40] <ubuntu> but does that mean ill need bth usb stick now to make linux run ?
[00:40] <Sebo> How can I make this process not to respawn after being stopped.
[00:40] <ubuntu> i dont have it on cd
[00:40] <The_Rufus> then add the RAID later and relocate the /home directory
[00:40] <Sebo> How can I make this process not to respawn after being called to stop?
[00:40] <storrgie> Anyone have an AMD Firepro M8900????
[00:40] <ubuntu> hm i think i understand wat going on
[00:41] <escott> The_Rufus, sounds about right.
[00:41] <urlin2u> The_Rufus, drive to small.
[00:41] <ubuntu> i cant install this partition on the usb necuase im using it as a live distro at the moment
[00:41] <kaushal> Hi
[00:41] <ubuntu> i think thats wats going on
[00:41] <ubuntu> lol
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> storrgie: its just a mobility radeon, what is your issue?
[00:41] <The_Rufus> 4Gb for server?
[00:41] <The_Rufus> really?
[00:41] <kaushal> Any free file upload service to share debug log files ?
[00:41] <dozen> hi
[00:41] <The_Rufus> I'd like to move /var to the RAID array too
[00:42] <urlin2u> The_Rufus, server I didn't catch that, sorrty
[00:42] <znh> kaushal: yes such services are known as pastebin and such
[00:42] <urlin2u> sorry
[00:42] <Seq> The_Rufus: 4GB will be fine for a root filesystem
[00:42] <storrgie> ActionParsnip, just installed 11.04 x64 on my new M6600, it is just awful, screen tearing, slow beyond my understanding
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> The_Rufus: sure, the OS will be tiny and leave more space for stuff. A home router will need less than 4Gb easily
[00:42] <kaushal> znh: i am looking out for uploading
[00:42] <storrgie> ActionParsnip, Its on a 256G SSD also
[00:42] <The_Rufus> the idea is the flash drive will be for the OS, all other files go to the RAID5
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> storrgie: did you install the Ati driver?
[00:42] <storrgie> ActionParsnip, flgrx? yes
[00:42] <znh> kaushal: in that cause any file upload would suite right?
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> storrgie: have you tried in the Ubuntu classic session?
[00:42] <kaushal> yes
[00:42] <ubuntu> ok so in oder for the usb for work porable ill have to install ubuntu from a Cd to usb
[00:43] <ubuntu> then i can use it like a normal distro
[00:43] <The_Rufus> to put it in context, I've been trying to get my server working for the past 8 months
[00:43] <kaushal> znh: do you have information offhand
[00:43] <The_Rufus> nobody can help me
[00:43] <storrgie> ActionParsnip, I have not
[00:43] <The_Rufus> i just bought the RR2320 to make it easier
[00:43] <storrgie> ActionParsnip, I want Unity or Gnome-Shell
[00:43] <Vanillalite> what's an easy way to edit pdfs with ubuntu?
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> storrgie: worth a try, could be a compiz issue
[00:43] <znh> kaushal: well you need to be more specific
[00:43] <Daghdha> Hi. I just logged onto my ubuntu machine. Remote. And found that all Terminal windows i had open where filled with grey. When i tried to open 2 new ones they also became grey. When i CLOSED one of them i was asked 'Force quit' and when i did.. they were all gone!
[00:43] <kaushal> znh: http://www.filefactory.com/
[00:43] <escott> ubuntu, can you back up a bit, and describe what you want to do. you probably want to be using usb-creator-gtk
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> !info pdfedit | Vanillalite
[00:43] <Daghdha> What makes terminals be dead like that?
[00:43] <znh> kaushal: what about it
[00:44] <ubuntu> i tryed that
[00:44] <ubuntu> didnt work
[00:44] <dr_willis> grey = compiz fadeing out the window - to show its 'hung/not responding'
[00:44] <ubuntu> i think i need 2 udb sticks
[00:44] <ubuntu> usb*
[00:44] <storrgie> ActionParsnip, I did run glxgears in radeon and flgrx, with radeon I got 30fps, with flgrx I got 60fps
[00:44] <dr_willis> Daghdha,  so basically they crashed...  and compiz made them look all faded.
[00:44] <ubuntu> 1 with the live distro and the other one to install it in
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> storrgie: glxgears is a poor test of performance
[00:44] <Sebo> Can you tell me how to make /etc/init/*.conf auto respawning job not to respawn if the main process ended while pre-stop is running?
[00:44] <Daghdha> dr_willis: But all of them, they seem to rely all on 1 underlying process
[00:45] <escott> ubuntu, you cannot use usb-creator-gtk on the same usb you just booted. so yes you need two
[00:45] <Daghdha> dr_willis: How can i make it so they have seperate processes e.g.?
[00:45] <storrgie> ActionParsnip, I get ~4000 fps on my M4400 with an nvidia card
[00:45] <dr_willis> Daghdha,  i always run several differnt terminal apps.... :)
[00:45] <dr_willis> terminator, gnome-shell,  xfterm....
[00:45] <dr_willis> depends on what im doing in them
[00:45] <ubuntu> escott yea i no my problem now thanks :)
[00:45] <ubuntu> i no wat i need to fix it
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> storrgie: are there any bugs reported?
[00:45] <The_Rufus> can anyone explain what LVM is in relation to hard drive partition options on install?
[00:45] <ubuntu> now just gata find my self another stick
[00:46] <Daghdha> never happened before.. fingers crossed it's not some update
[00:46] <dr_willis> bbl.
[00:46] <storrgie> ActionParsnip, I couldnt find any, I did a lot of searching prior to purchasing this machine (its expensive)
[00:46] <storrgie> ActionParsnip, I really wanted to be able to use 2-3 external monitors, thats why I bought AMD card
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> storrgie: is it any better with the open driver?
[00:46] <znh> The_Rufus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_volume_management
[00:46] <storrgie> ActionParsnip, radeon? it was better, but was still wonky
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> storrgie: ive very little experience with ATi, I always always buy nvidia
[00:47] <escott> The_Rufus, software managed partitions, usually placed on top of a software raid partition. allows you to resize and clone partitions without modifying underlying raid or partition tables
[00:47] <coz_> The_Rufus,    http://www.davelachapelle.ca/guides/ubuntu-lvm-guide/
[00:47] <html> thats why  im guess you go with a  openGL
[00:47] <storrgie> ActionParsnip, I was hoping to find someone around here who does ATI related stuff, I have also always bought Nvidia
[00:47] <The_Rufus> is there any advantage in using LVM for my os file system? realisticly
[00:47] <The_Rufus> ?
[00:47] <storrgie> ActionParsnip, do you know if there is an IRC channel some place?
[00:48] <coz_> The_Rufus,   also here    http://sinix.org/blog/?p=75
[00:48] <rick_bug> anyone play the game   Hacker Evolution Duality on ubuntu
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> storrgie: maybe others can help, not sure. possibly #xorg
[00:48] <escott> The_Rufus, if you don't know how big your partitions need to be it gives you flexibility. 1 lvm partition and the volumes inside to your current data usage and then expand as needed
[00:48] <znh> The_Rufus: It won't make things magically faster. It all depends on your usage
[00:48] <storrgie> ActionParsnip, the fedora installer looks pretty good, going to try it out real quick. There is a driver supplied by dell for RHEL
[00:49] <The_Rufus> well, the flash drive will just house the OS, no log files or home files or anything really
[00:49] <The_Rufus> i guess there is no advantage
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> storrgie: worth a shot
[00:49] <escott> The_Rufus, you wouldn't use it on the flash, only the 10TB raid
[00:49] <The_Rufus> escott: thanks
[00:49] <znh> The_Rufus: I'd suggest ext2
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> +1 for ext2
[00:50] <html> thats why  im guess you go with a  openGL  storrgie,
[00:50] <The_Rufus> ext2? but what about 3 and 4, aren't they better?
[00:50] <storrgie> html, whaat?
[00:50] <rick_bug> anyone play the game   Hacker Evolution Duality on ubuntu
[00:50] <coz_> rick_bug, i have not . sorry
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> The_Rufus: I'd also recommend you take the server down accasionally and make an image of the server drive, makes resetting up a new server easier (or for when the USB finally gives out)
[00:50] <Orwell> Didn't you just ask that =P
[00:51] <Hegel> what does it as game?
[00:51] <WallyJ2K> @dr_willis - I tried to create the xorg.conf like you said. When I opened the file after reboot, it was blank
[00:51] <znh> The_Rufus: well they have more features. you can however store more with ext2 because it doesn't have a journal
[00:51] <coz_> WallyJ2K,   nvidia?
[00:51] <ubuntu> brb gana install ubuntu on another usb drive so have it on my other usb
[00:51] <WallyJ2K> no, ATI Radeon Mobility U1
[00:51] <The_Rufus> znh: thanks for the explain :)
[00:51] <Jordan_U> rick_bug: Rather than asking if anyone plays the game why don't you ask your actual support question? (If you don't have a support question, then this is the wrong channel, maybe try #ubuntu-offtopic).
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> The_Rufus: ext3 and ext4 have journals which get written to a lot, this wears the USb out faster. I believe there are some tweaks for ext4 to be kinder to flash based storage but no Ext3 and Ext4 are not outright better
[00:51] <coz_> WallyJ2K,  ah ok,,
[00:52] <The_Rufus> ok, installing the base system now
[00:52] <The_Rufus> time for coffee
[00:52] <escott> The_Rufus, everyone is giving you recommendations for the flash, i think most would recommend ext4 for the data partitions
[00:52] <Jordan_U> ActionParsnip: The_Rufus: You can use ext4 without a journal (ext3 is simply ext2 + journaling ).
[00:52] <html> storrgie,  http://www.opengl.org/
[00:52] <WallyJ2K> Trying to set my external VGA settings, but 11.04 starts with no xorg.conf
[00:53] <rick_bug> thanks
[00:53] <Vanillalite> Thanks for the pdf help btw! Life saver for my GF doing her school work!
[00:53] <WCwarrior> anyone please: looking for ati radeon hd 3650 driver for ubuntu 11.04 ... please somebody...
[00:54] <coz_> WCwarrior,   sorry,, I have abasolutely no experience with ati cards,, I am sure someone here does or if not...try the #radeon channel
[00:54] <Haematoma>  !pdfedit | coz_
[00:55] <escott> WCwarrior, is it not in jockey-gtk?
[00:55] <Haematoma> !info
[00:55] <WCwarrior> coz: thanks...
[00:55] <Haematoma> !pdfedit
[00:55] <bazhang> Haematoma, /msg ubottu
[00:55] <WCwarrior> escott: i'm literate but just learning linux for first time. Jockey-gtk?
[00:56] <Zoidfarb> Does anyone know what the minimal packages I need to install to run a .jar package are? I don't have a lot of hard drive space.
[00:56] <owen1> what is the name of the wireless application in gnome. i want to run awesome instead of gnome, but still enjoy wireless connection...
[00:56] <coz_> WCwarrior,  yes you can open jockey-gtk via terminal by typing  jockey-gtk
[00:56] <WCwarrior> escott: is what you're speaking of a patricular pkg within ubuntu?
[00:56] <escott> WCwarrior, ie proprietary drivers. open a terminal and type jockey-gtk
[00:56] <Zoidfarb> owne1: you mean NetworkManager ?
[00:57] <html> storrgie,   so what are you trying to do?
[00:57] <owen1> Zoidfarb: not sure. can i run it?
[00:57] <WCwarrior> coz: okay...trying now. will you be on for a minute?
[00:57] <owen1> Zoidfarb: from the terminal?
[00:57] <owen1> Zoidfarb: i tried installing wicd but i can't connect to the internet from some reason.
[00:58] <rick_bug> oh.i'm sorry ,maybe i should ask the question in other way ?how to install source code ?for instance,the suffix tar.gz
[00:58] <urlin2u> owen1, try logging out wicd can be tempermental.
[00:58] <WallyJ2K> how can I shut down X to run a command to resonf?et my xorg.c
[00:58] <WallyJ2K> *reset my xorg.conf
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> rick_bug: what is the full filename and we can give the command
[00:58] <owen1> urlin2u: what is tempermental? not a native speaker. sorry
[00:58] <escott> WallyJ2K, service gdm stop; (and then later service gdm start)
[00:59] <urlin2u> owen1, a problem at first install you want the daemon running.
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> WallyJ2K: just rename the xorg.conf file and reboot, it will put the settings back in to udev and will be the same as when you first installed
[00:59] <owen1> urlin2u: i am not following you. what do you want me to try?
[01:00] <urlin2u> owen1, logout of the desktop then log back in.
[01:00] <owen1> urlin2u: i have internet with gnome. but not with awesome+wicd. logout of gnome and lunch awesome?
[01:00] <Zoidfarb> ownen1: I've always had good luck with wicd. If you launch if from the command line, do you get any error messages when you try to connect?
[01:00] <Zoidfarb> *owen1
[01:00] <urlin2u> owen1, ?
[01:01] <WCwarrior> coz: i don't have the card installed yet and have tried but when i boot up...i have zero picture
[01:01] <owen1> Zoidfarb: i'll try it and come back here. i use wicd-cursor btw
[01:01] <html> Zoidfarb,  i do , but i use the gui,  it kicks me alot
[01:02] <WCwarrior> coz: so i have my old card in. being new to this, i was assuming that i could install the driver then switch the cards.
[01:02] <escott> WCwarrior, that would make it harder for you. i would boot to terminal and then use jockey-text
[01:03] <coz_> WCwarrior,  well as I said I dont know much about  ati,, however,, because of that I dont know if one driver is good for a different card,, i believe some cards require fglrx and other the open source
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> WCwarrior: what video card?
[01:03] <WCwarrior> escott: please educate me on this process to do so cause when i have the card in and boot, i don't get a boot screen...just a black screen.
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> WCwarrior: tried the boot option: nomodeset
[01:04] <Zoidfarb> owen1, html: using the GUI is fine/the correct way to use WICD, I just meant starting it from a terminal for debugging purposes--you might see errors in the terminal
[01:04] <WCwarrior> ActionParsnip: it's ATI Radeon HD 3650
[01:04] <Marot77> Canal for spain please.
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> !es
[01:04] <rick_bug> ActionParsnip:so sorry,the file  is  a game , and in the folder no illustration,i don't how to do, and i research a lot on the net,but........
[01:04] <escott> WCwarrior, if you are going from an older ati to a newer ati its possible that there is an old config laying around. you might uninstall fglrx and go back to radeonhd and then switch to the newer card
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> rick_bug: what is the filename?
[01:05] <rick_bug> Hacker Evolution Duality
[01:05] <urlin2u> WCwarrior, the xswat ppa probably will work.
[01:05] <WCwarrior> escott: trying to comprehend...again, i'm new to linux/ ubuntu 11.04
[01:05] <rick_bug> there is a game
[01:06] <WCwarrior> escott: how do i go about of uninstalling fglrx?
[01:06] <escott> WCwarrior, we need a bit more info about the specifics. (a) what card do you currently have in there (b) did you install proprietary drivers for that card (c) what do you see on boot with the new card
[01:06] <WCwarrior> escott: i'm sure that was a very dumb question...but again, learning here.
[01:07] <WCwarrior> escott: give me a sec and i'll provide the details.
[01:07] <The_Rufus> hahaha 30% of people surveyed in the UK believe time travel is possible right now
[01:07] <The_Rufus> random fact...
[01:08] <bazhang> !ot | The_Rufus
[01:08] <The_Rufus> yea yea, i know :) just wanted a quick laugh to say thankyou for the help so far ;)
[01:09] <photon> The_Rufus: more than that believe in an invisible sky daddy. I think the time travel believe is more acceptable.
[01:09] <dv310p3r> I'm using ushare to serve movies to my xbox 360. I was wondering if anyone knows why I can't serve files to 2 xbox 360's at the same time
[01:09] <photon> belief*
[01:09] <jukebox-zero> Hello, this could be a silly question. I'm compiling the latest SVN build of tovid on an Ubuntu dist. as part of an effort to update all things dealing with media playback/encoding. Is there a way to use something like checkinstall or auto-apt to build a deb package of the SVN snapshot or is the ./setup.py the only method? The ./setup.py works great and this version of tovid works splendidly, the onl
[01:09] <jukebox-zero>  y adjustment is learning to type tovid id * rather than idvid *. But I would like the package management to recognize it as installed in case there are any dependency issues with something else I install down the road. Any suggestions?
[01:09] <dv310p3r> The ushare channel isn't being manned.
[01:10] <Zoidfarb> Anyone know how to compile/run a .jar file on Ubuntu?
[01:10] <qin> Zoidfarb: java -jar file.jar ?
[01:10] <DasEi> jukebox-zero: deselect or aptitude hold
[01:11] <coz_> Zoidfarb,  if you right click the file and open with sun java web start if sun java is installed or yes what qin   mentioned
[01:12] <The_Rufus> has anyone ever had any joy getting a Huawei E220 USB 3G internet stick working on linux?
[01:12] <Gasseus> umm... I accidently ran chmod 0777 * -R as root in the root directory... is there a script that allows me to revert to the proper permissions, or at least a list of what those are?
[01:12] <escott> Gasseus, just reinstall
[01:12] <Zoidfarb> qin, I get an error, "Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from Runner.jar"
[01:13] <Gasseus> escott Really? That your answer to everything?
[01:13] <qin> Gasseus: Back up own data and reinstall, going be faster
[01:13] <owen1> Zoidfarb: i don't see errors. it just refuse to connect
[01:13] <Gasseus> qin no it isn't, you don't know how much data I have
[01:13] <owen1> Zoidfarb: (i am now with a wire)
[01:13] <merlot> Gasseus: honestly man, I would reinstall too
[01:13] <qin> Gasseus: Do you have separate /home partition?
[01:14] <Zoidfarb> qin, does it require Sun java? I think I just installed java-default from synaptic
[01:14] <jukebox-zero> DasEi: Thanks. But the issue is (and sorry, I copy pasted and didn't make this clear) the install script included with source is python, so it doesn't register with apt-get or aptitude as being installed though it is. I would like to know if I could recompile and use make - sudo checkinstall to build a dep, rather than using their .py install script. I am not a programmer and I suspect their code is probably entirely diffe
[01:14] <jukebox-zero> rent than source that uses make - check install if they included a .py installer. But I don't know for sure and wondered if any one feels that indicated that make etc wouldn't work?
[01:14] <owen1> Zoidfarb: i am ok to use the gnome app.
[01:14] <DasEi> Gasseus: you can make a second install and write a script, as this hahppens here and then
[01:14] <Gasseus> qin no
[01:14] <WallyJ2K> @ActionParsnip - This is 11.04. It doesn't naturally want to use the xorg.conf
[01:14] <qin> Zoidfarb: Not sure, not really java person here.
[01:15] <Zoidfarb> qin, me either...
[01:15] <DasEi> jukebox-zero: that will be possible, but I'm not in packaging now, so need to ask again
[01:16] <mayko> still no go re: microphone :(
[01:16] <WCwarrior> escott: present card is a PNY GeForce 8200 and the driver's shown/ options are, NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (version 173" (This driver is not activated.) and NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (version current) [Recommended} This driver is activated but not currently in use.  And, I'm wanting to install ATI Radeon HD3650
[01:17] <DasEi> jukebox-zero: http://tinyurl.com/4kqepb
[01:17] <jukebox-zero> DasEi: Thanks.
[01:17] <message144> Hi, does anybody know which packages provides the "ed" command?
[01:18] <message144> Or even better, how I could find this information myself?
[01:18] <dr3mro> hi plz how to change dpi in x server ubuntu for whole screen not just font ???
[01:18] <Zoidfarb> message144, it sounds like apt-file might help: http://efreedom.com/Question/1-4471327/Ubuntu-Equivalent-Yums-WhatProvides
[01:18] <escott> WCwarrior, ok. then i would recommend that you disable the nvidia drivers, and rename/move your /etc/X11/Xorg.conf and reboot so that you are booting with xorgs drivers
[01:19] <message144> Zoidfarb, thanks
[01:19] <WCwarrior> escott: okay. my options are to "remove". would that be correct?
[01:19] <jjb123> Hey everyone! I was just wondering what the best command line merge utility is?
[01:19] <jjb123> (for version control)
[01:20] <Zoidfarb> message144, for possible future Linux knowledge, the RedHat package system has a really nice "whatprovides" option that will tell you where a file came from
[01:20] <qin> message144: dpkg -l ed
[01:20] <escott> message144, apt-file search ed
[01:20] <escott> !info ed | message144
[01:20] <tazthaspaz> hey i wish to write a shell script that will scroll through the FMLS that people post on www.fmylife.com and it will automatically show new posts and put them into the shell any one know how to do it?
[01:20] <DasEi> message144: apt-cache show ed | grep ed
[01:20] <message144> wow, thanks for all the suggestions
[01:20] <ozzzy> so what is eth0:avahi and why won't a machine connect
[01:21] <DasEi> message144: np, ed ;)
[01:21] <fr0sted> hi, im having trouble installing my wifi adaptor with ubuntu, can someone help ?
[01:21] <escott> !paste | WCwarrior people won't accept DCC
[01:21] <fr0sted> its a siemensgigaset 54
[01:21] <escott> !best | jjb123, but i use vimdiff
[01:21] <WCwarrior> escott: ok
[01:21] <tazthaspaz> hey i wish to write a shell script that will scroll through the FMLS that people post on www.fmylife.com and it will automatically show new posts and put them into the shell any one know how to do it?
[01:22] <escott> WCwarrior, and yes removing the nvidia drivers would disable them
[01:22] <html> duh!
[01:22] <Haematoma> Is there anyway I can get EXAILE to display track change info on the right ubuntu status bar instead of its custom OSD?
[01:22] <tazthaspaz> hey i wish to write a shell script that will scroll through the FMLS that people post on www.fmylife.com and it will automatically show new posts and put them into the shell any one know how to do it?
[01:23] <merlot> did anyone else buy a monitor thats too big? :/
[01:23] <lion42> ..too...big?
[01:23] <WCwarrior> escott: okay. then for the part about rename/move your /etc/x11/Xorg.conf ??
[01:23] <Haematoma> tazthaspaz, you might be able to write a script using RSS?
[01:23] <qin> tazthaspaz: In differend words, you want to wget/curl main page, strip it out of tags, and post only latest post, right?
[01:23] <WCwarrior> escott: i'm sorry for the paint by the numbers for me.
[01:24] <tazthaspaz> ummm thanks Haematoma but im new and idk wat RSS is
[01:24] <Haematoma> tazthaspaz, there is a specific command which generates sysmessages
[01:24] <merlot> lion42: its like I have to look left to right too much
[01:24] <lion42> Pull it back further away from you?
[01:24] <escott> WCwarrior, nvidia uses Xorg.conf what would not be compatible with ati. you should see it if you ls /etc/X11, and then mv /etc/X11/Xorg.conf /root
[01:24] <rcmaehl> How do I install java for chromium?
[01:24] <escott> WCwarrior, rather sudo mv ...
[01:24] <Haematoma> tazthaspaz, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSS
[01:24] <merlot> lion42: lol, then I can't read the text
[01:24] <rcmaehl> All they have is an .rpm
[01:24] <DasEi> !java | rcmaehl
[01:24] <escott> !rpm | rcmaehl
[01:25] <lion42> merlot, increase the font size...
[01:25] <tazthaspaz> thanks ill look into this HAVE A NICE DAY :)
[01:25] <merlot> lion42: excellent suggestion
[01:25] <DasEi> rcmaehl: don't go alien, see above link
[01:26] <Jim455R> what is LOOOVE
[01:26] <merlot> still, I went overkill buying this monitor, I should have gone with the 19" model
[01:26] <Jim455R> merlot which monitior
[01:26] <DasEi> rcmaehl: you get it with sun java from the partner repo, clear on that ?
[01:26] <WCwarrior> escott: again, my apologies...is this information listed easily somewhere within the sytem folder or is there like a cmd in terminal to find this out, etc.?
[01:26] <rcmaehl> DasEi: yep
[01:26] <DasEi> nice
[01:26] <merlot> Jim455R: God is Love :)
[01:27] <owen1> how to run the gnome's network managar without using gnome? i try running NetworkManager from the terminal but it tells me it's already running.
[01:27] <html> merlot,  yes its called  a biigggg tv
[01:27] <WallyJ2K> need help changing refresh rate for output to TV
[01:27] <intrader> Anyone, elinks text terminal connects properly to network printer hosted by cups on a mac. The elinks program is able to do administrative tasks as well as print a test page. However, the 'Applications->System->Printing applet is not able to locate the printer and connect.
[01:27] <urlin2u> merlot, sp is a good pet. ;-)
[01:27] <urlin2u> so
[01:28] <escott> WCwarrior, find what out? i'm saying in your terminal type ls /etc/X11 there should be something called conf, and you can "sudo mv /etc/X11/Xorg.conf /etc/X11/Xorg.conf.nvidia" to back it up and disable it at the same time
[01:28] <Mike9863> I think that Ubuntu has stopped recognizing the presence of my laptop charger. For some reason my charge icon is always showing now in the Indicator Applet even though before it would only show when my charger was not plugged in. Ubuntu is also setting my display dim even while it's plugged in, even though in Power Management PReferences it is set to only do this while on battery power.
[01:28] <qin> owen1: nm-cli
[01:28] <owen1> qin: thanks
[01:28] <merlot> Jim455R: Samsung something, bought it a few years ago. 22" I think
[01:29] <Jim455R> very good brand
[01:29] <DasEi> WallyJ2K: you can lookup modelines in /etc/X11/Xorg.0.log, and there is a tool cvt out, sadly not in repos
[01:29] <urlin2u> Mike9863, what does the battery icon say when you hover over t with your cursor?
[01:30] <urlin2u> it
[01:30] <merlot> yeah I still like, except for being too big, need a fast graphics card to see games in its native resolution. Anyhow I keep going offtopic, should be talking about ubuntu. mmm ubuntu...
[01:30] <urlin2u> Mike9863, actuall a right click on it.
[01:30] <DasEi> WallyJ2K: can you give exact model of screen ?
[01:30] <Mike9863> urlin2u: When I click it it says "Laptop battery: estimating..." I am pretty sure that it used to give a correct read out before. I haven't made any changes so I'm not sure why this would happen.
[01:32] <urlin2u> Mike9863, is it running like it is using the plugin rather then the battery=time?
[01:33] <Mike9863> urlin2u: It's running as though it's on battery power even though the charger is plugged in.
[01:34] <dr3mro> how to make gui elements like icons and windows in ubuntu looks smaller ?
[01:34] <urlin2u> Mike9863, time wise I mean, have you used it a lot could it now not being fully charged?
[01:34] <urlin2u> be being
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> dr3mro: could use a higer dpi
[01:36] <escott> Mike9863, its possible that the battery is not getting back to 100% of what should be possible. you can see if the power supply is sending power by looking at /sys/bus/acpi/drivers/ac/ACPI???/power_supply/AC0/online and for the battery you can look at power levels in /sys/bus/acpi/drivers/battery/..../power_supply/BAT0/energy_now vs energy_full
[01:38] <dreamy_> all the games im tryng to run are giving the same sort of error
[01:38] <blopm> I have a new Asus laptop and I wanted to know when the live cd loads why does the screen look so stretched and fuzzy? Any Solutions?
[01:39] <escott> blopm, it is running in vesa mode, run in a terminal jockey-gtk and install the graphics drivers for your graphics card
[01:39] <dreamy_> does anyone knows what this means?    DRM version 1.5 too old to support HyperZ, disabling.
[01:39] <blopm> escott:  I can do this on the cd?
[01:39] <blopm> escott: its not installed.
[01:39] <escott> blopm, not on the cd. you could on a usb
[01:40] <Haematoma> osd-notify has stopped working... ARGHH
[01:40] <escott> blopm, but even then only if your usb was configured to save data on reboots
[01:40] <Haematoma> how do fix
[01:40] <Haematoma> what do
[01:40] <escott> dreamy_, DRM is the kernel interface for the graphics card. your kernel is evidently too old
[01:40] <wildgoose> Haematom: What is your native language?
[01:41] <blopm> escott: if i install it will this gurateed a screen resolution fix to make it clear?
[01:41] <Haematoma> Spanglish
[01:41] <Vidalia> Spanglish? are you kidding me?
[01:41] <urlin2u> Haematoma, lol
[01:41] <dreamy_> escott, it sarted to happend with the new ubuntu versions .. from 10.04 and up, does it means the card is not getting suported?
[01:41] <escott> blopm, its not something you want to do with the livecd. if you are concerned that the card may not be supported give us the hardware specs
[01:42] <Haematoma> ok someone send me pm quickly
[01:42] <Haematoma> I want to see if OSD-notify is working
[01:42] <WallyJ2K> @dasei - my TV is a 42inch LG Flatscreen
[01:42] <escott> dreamy_, don't know ati
[01:42] <jmcantrell> i thought firefox 6 was supposed to be coming as an update. mine still shows 5
[01:42] <WallyJ2K> it needs a refresh rate of 59.934. I think my external VGA is only sending at 60
[01:42] <dreamy_> my kernel is equivelent to ubuntu 10.10 ..:S
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> Haematoma: yo
[01:42] <DasEi> WallyJ2K: model ?
[01:43] <Mike9863> urlin2u: It's usually always plugged in. I had it unplugged and in sleep for about one minute, and when I resumed and plugged it in the icon did not go away, and my settings are as though they are on battery power rather than on AC power which is what it should be when it is plugged in, correct?
[01:43] <Vidalia> WallyJ2K, why.. would we want to know?
[01:43] <escott> jmcantrell, not the firefox in apt. you get the version that came with your release
[01:43] <dreamy_> escott, its a m6 ly radeon 7000 rv100
[01:43] <blopm> escott:  the graphics card is UMA
[01:43] <ActionParsnip> jmcantrell: you can get firefox 6 via ppa
[01:43] <urlin2u> Mike9863, did you see the other post by escott
[01:43] <jmcantrell> ActionParsnip: do you know the ppa?
[01:44] <Vidalia> WallyJ2K, i dont go around blarting that i have a 50" tv..
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> jmcantrell: i know it exists, I don't use firefox
[01:44] <Vidalia> It has nothing to do with your video card, or drivers.
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> jmcantrell: use the web, you'll find it
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> !ff6
[01:44] <WallyJ2K> @Vidalia - Someone asked
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> there we go
[01:44] <jmcantrell> thanks
[01:44] <escott> blopm, not sure what UMA is
[01:45] <WallyJ2K> @Dasei LG Model: 42LD520
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> jmcantrell: when somebody states there is a PPA, at least TRY and find it yourself before asking
[01:46] <jmcantrell> ActionParsnip: :P
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> jmcantrell: the more autonymous you can be, the better
[01:47] <jmcantrell> ActionParsnip: i added the ppa, updated, but it doesn't show an upgrade for ff
[01:47] <kingofswords> if i remve wine will it delete my programs too....i want to reinstall it
[01:47] <WallyJ2K> @Dasei - might also be a limitation of the fact that I have to run ubuntu in classic mode. Limited choices for video setup
[01:47] <escott> kingofswords, it won't remove the files in ~/.wine which is probably where your programs are
[01:47] <skpl> is 500 mb enough for swap?
[01:48] <kingofswords> ok thx
[01:48] <escott> skpl, depends. standard recommendation is =RAM, but many people don't use swap
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> jmcantrell: you need to run: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:48] <Jordan_U> skpl: Do you want to be able to hybernate?
[01:48] <DasEi> WallyJ2K: sorry, can't find it in database
[01:48] <skpl> escott: do they use something else instead?
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> skpl: if you have 256Mb RAM, yes
[01:49] <jmcantrell> ActionParsnip: did that
[01:49] <Mike9863> escott and urlin2u: It turns out that the battery just wasn't at 100%. Since my laptop is usually always plugged in, I assumed that "On AC Power" just meant that it was plugged in. Thanks for your help.
[01:49] <skpl> ActionParsnip: i have 512mb
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> jmcantrell: ok if you run:  apt-cache policy firefox     do you see the PPA in the output
[01:49] <urlin2u> jmcantrell, I had to run sudo apt-get install firefox
[01:49] <escott> skpl, depends on whether or not you need to swap. if you have 16gb of ram and only ever browse the web, you probably don't need swap. anything from 0-2xRAM is reasonable for somebody
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> skpl: then you want 1Gb of swap
[01:49] <blopm> escott: will the resoution be fixed is all Im asking
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> skpl: double RAM amount for swap unless you have more than 2Gb RAM, then it's the SAME amount as RAM
[01:50] <jmcantrell> ActionParsnip: i do not
[01:50] <skpl> ActionParsnip: ok thank you
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> jmcantrell: then you dodn't add the ppa right
[01:50] <escott> blopm, if you can get the drivers for your graphics card installed, then you won't be in vesa mode and it wont be stretched, and will be a higher resolution
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> jmcantrell: run:  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:50] <WallyJ2K> @dasei - What were you hoping to find in the database, and what db are you talking about?
[01:51] <jmcantrell> ActionParsnip: yes i did. that's the exact command i used
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> jmcantrell: what is the output of:  lsb_release -c    please
[01:51] <jewles> hi
[01:51] <jewles> w00t my first time here
[01:51] <urlin2u> jmcantrell, firefox 6?
[01:51] <jmcantrell> ActionParsnip: natty
[01:51] <jmcantrell> urlin2u: yes
[01:51] <urlin2u> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-next
[01:51] <ablyss> banshee music player sure looks a lot like rhythmbox
[01:52] <Haematoma> The square root of 69 is 8-something
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> jmcantrell: try the next PPA listed above, same update / upgrade stuff though :)
[01:52] <Haematoma> you and me baby, we could have made something
[01:52] <urlin2u> jmcantrell, might be the stable though when added later today.
[01:52] <Haematoma> someone send me a msg so I can test my notifaction screen
[01:52] <ablyss> Haematoma: off topic
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> Haematoma:
[01:52] <escott> !ot > Haematoma
[01:53] <Haematoma> thank you
[01:53] <jmcantrell> urlin2u: if it's going to be added today, i can wait
[01:53] <Jordan_U> Haematoma: Stop that, and don't do it again unless you wish to be banned.
[01:53] <DasEi> WallyJ2K: http://pastebin.com/RCvPuFwG, own risk, generic
[01:53] <urlin2u> jmcantrell, I don't know it should be in the regular repos then I suspect.
[01:53] <Haematoma> Ok, I'll behave now
[01:53] <Jordan_U> Haematoma: #test and other channels can be used for testing, this is an active support channel.
[01:53] <Haematoma> Sorry
[01:53] <Haematoma> Apologies
[01:54] <ElTimo> I'm having trouble getting bumblebee to run. Does anyone have any experience with it?
[01:54] <DasEi> WallyJ2K: there are tools not available in default ubu, some screens can be found there
[01:55] <ablyss> ElTimo: sorry still on AGP here
[01:55] <WallyJ2K> my problem is that I can't get an xorg.conf to even edit
[01:55] <escott> WallyJ2K, have you tried Xorg -configure
[01:55] <WallyJ2K> @Dasei - whenever I try to recreate one, the command does nothing
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> WallyJ2K: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf     will make the file and make it ready for editting
[01:56] <blopm> escott: does it cost money to get the drivers installed?
[01:56] <WallyJ2K> escott - I have tried sudo xorg -configure, even with X shut down. It does nothing
[01:56] <WallyJ2K> when I reboot there is still no xorg.conf
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> WallyJ2K: do you add text and save the new file
[01:57] <escott> blopm, no, but they are not open-source so there are more support issues
[01:57] <escott> WallyJ2K, that will just create the file in /root i believe
[01:57] <The_Rufus> wow, this would have to be the slowest linux install ever....
[01:57] <Jordan_U> blopm: No. But there is a (small) chance your graphics card is not supported, even with proprietary drivers.
[01:57] <blopm> Jordan_U: i dont want to install this on my new laptop and it look a mess.
[01:58] <SIFTU> blopm: what laptop did you get?
[01:58] <blopm> SIFTU: Asus
[01:58] <SIFTU> model?
[01:59] <blopm> SIFTU: k53e
[01:59] <Jordan_U> blopm: You can install Ubuntu using Wubi to test things out. (By using Wubi it is as easy to remove Ubuntu again if you don't want it as it is to uninstall any Windows program).
[01:59] <WallyJ2K> OK... created the xorg.conf and added settings to it, but I have to restart for it to work, right?
[02:00] <DasEi> WallyJ2K: restart gdm yes, and need general vid-section with radeon by chance
[02:00] <Haematoma> notify-OSD is not functioning correctly
[02:00] <Haematoma> where should I begin to troubleshoot it?
[02:00] <escott> blopm, fyi... i'm kinda lazy so I'm not going to plug k53e into google and find what kind of system that is. you might want to run lspci and give us the key details list there (cpu and video card)
[02:00] <Jordan_U> blopm: If the graphics drivers work in a Wubi install they will also work in a normal dual boot configuration, so you would either be able to keep the Wubi install or do a normal dual boot install (I prefer the latter).
[02:00] <WallyJ2K> dasei - That is why I did not want to start from scratch
[02:01] <blopm> Jordan_U: I have Ubuntu on this laptop im on now. i know how it works I just dont want it looking a mess. and yea ill check out wubi.
[02:01] <SIFTU> blopm: can you "lspci |grep -i vga"
[02:01] <DasEi> WallyJ2K: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg didn't create a file ??
[02:01] <blopm> SIFTU: Im only on a live cd can i still do that?
[02:01] <WallyJ2K> dasei - no
[02:01] <SIFTU> blopm: yep
[02:01] <DasEi> strange then
[02:01] <WallyJ2K> dasei - what is the command to restart gdm?
[02:01] <escott> WallyJ2K, sudo service gdm restart
[02:02] <DasEi> WallyJ2K: sudo gdm stop , then sudo gdm start
[02:02] <WallyJ2K> thanks
[02:02] <DasEi> WallyJ2K: err, ja service not to forget
[02:02] <WallyJ2K> gotcha
[02:03] <WallyJ2K> what if I don't have the generic radeon part in the xorg.conf
[02:03] <ActionParsnip> WallyJ2K: here is a vanilla xorg.conf file: http://pastebin.com/BaWjyYgP
[02:04] <escott> WallyJ2K, if you want to use radeonhd (ships with Xorg) just rename the Xorg.conf
[02:05] <WallyJ2K> dasei - If I want to try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg again, should i rename the current xorg.conf?
[02:05] <Jim455R> in ubuntu firefox browser
[02:06] <Jim455R> the bookmark folder icons is not there
[02:06] <Jim455R> why?
[02:06] <zroysch> http://pastebin.com/rUXyhyQM
[02:06] <zroysch> why is this happening to me
[02:06] <escott> zroysch, use parted or install and use gdisk
[02:07] <DasEi> WallyJ2K: nope, but then again re-write the mitor sections
[02:07] <zroysch> escott: what
[02:07] <DasEi> monitor*
[02:07] <smc> openoffice had a special package that was needed to run in spanish, but the name of the package was openoffice something or other. My question is since libre office forked what is the naming convintion for thier packages?
[02:07] <WallyJ2K> I ran the command. It did nothing to the xorg.conf file
[02:07] <blomp> SIFTU: sorry for the disconnect.
[02:07] <WallyJ2K> my xorg.conf file only contains the commands you gave me in pastebin
[02:08] <blomp> SIFTU: It says VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp device 0116 (rev 09)
[02:08] <SIFTU> blomp: ok and "uname -a"
[02:08] <escott> zroysch, it tells you not to use fdisk, so don't. and besides the partitions are different block sizes compare<PHONE_NUMBER> vs<PHONE_NUMBER>
[02:09] <escott> zroysch, but since you are using fdisk on a gpt disk those numbers are meaningless, as fdisk doesn't even know what the real partition table is
[02:09] <zroysch> oh
[02:09] <blomp> SIFTU: ubuntu 2.6.32-33-generic #70 ubuntu SMP todays date i686 GNU/Linux
[02:10] <escott> zroysch, cat /proc/partitions
[02:10] <SIFTU> blomp: your kernel is too old.. geta live cd with at least kernel 2.6.38 and for best performance kernel 3.0
[02:10] <zroysch> escott: should i even be using this GPT? I did it mostly as an experiment
[02:10] <blomp> SIFTU: This is Ubuntu 10.04 thats why. But I should get 11.04?
[02:11] <escott> zroysch, you need to use gpt for disks larger than 2gb (or something around that). gpt has a number of advantages, but you do have to use the correct tools
[02:11] <Jordan_U> zykotick9: GPT is great, just don't use fdisk.
[02:11] <mASOUD_42> hi, http://paste.ubuntu.com/667839/   this is a scrip using "zenity" to show a GUI message. it works when invoked form a terminal but when crontab calls it, it doesn't work.what's wrong?here's the crontab line i use http://paste.ubuntu.com/667844/
[02:11] <escott> zroysch, 2tb not 2gb
[02:11] <zroysch> escott: http://pastebin.com/caBDgqNx
[02:11] <SIFTU> blomp: yes your chip came out after that kernel and wasnt supported until 2.6.38
[02:11]  * roma yo
[02:11] <SIFTU> and even then it wasnt that great.. but kernel 3.0 it's pretty good
[02:12] <r3m> .
[02:12] <roma> hi
[02:12] <escott> zroysch, so there you can see sda1 is not the same size as sdb1 or your md array
[02:13] <Guest7785> hello
[02:13] <blomp> SIFTU: ok the only thing that annoys me about Ubuntu 11.04 is this side bar thing how do i move it or get rid of it.
[02:13] <zroysch> escott: why is sda being made smaller? i even repartitioned it in gparted to maximum size. they are both the same make and model hard drive
[02:13] <escott> zroysch, since sda is the same size as sdb your problem must be that you have a few spare blocks in sda that you aren't using. this could be because you aligned the blocks at a MB boundary, and using that additional space could break 4k alignment leading to lower performance. you should try and partition with the additional blocks and then check the alignment with parted before proceeding
[02:13] <ActionParsnip> blomp: log into ubuntu classic and it doesn't run
[02:14] <urlin2u> blomp, you can only shrink it, you can use the classic desktop if you like
[02:14] <mASOUD_42> !classic| blomp
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> blomp: oneiric uses unity2D so it will be present in both desktops in future releases
[02:14] <Guest7785> just installed ubuntu on my dell m501r with win 7 2 probs, its very slow and wireless wont work
[02:14] <zroysch> escott: don't know what much of that meant
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> Guest7785: what wireless chip do you use?
[02:14] <zroysch> maybe I should try doing this some other time
[02:14] <fr0sted> hi, i cant get my Gigaset usb adapter to work with ubuntu, can someone help please? i cant find anything on the internet about fixing the issue
[02:15] <Guest7785> let me remember its the nw501 i think it was
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> fr0sted: run:  lsusb   one line will identify the device, use the 8 character hex ID to find guides
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> Guest7785: run:  sudo lshw -C network
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> Guest7785: what is the product line?
[02:16] <WallyJ2K> Alright all... goodnight. I'll work on this more in the morning. Thanks again for all of your help!!!
[02:16] <Guest7785> aight one sec let me try when ubuntu loads, its going super slow
[02:16] <SIFTU> blomp: off topix but since there isnt an easy solution you could go linux mint
[02:16]  * r3mm test
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> SIFTU: please don't suggest linux mint here
[02:16] <blomp> SIFTU: Would you recommend 32 bit for my laptop
[02:17] <escott> zroysch, long and short you didn't do "exactly" the same thing with sda and sdb. (as an aside I would recommend buying different disks from different manufacturers, you don't want to find out that there is a design flaw in your array when they both die suddenly)
[02:17] <infobit> SIFTU, this is ubuntu channel so please talk only about ubuntu
[02:17] <SIFTU> ActionParsnip: sorry but he doesnt have much choice..
[02:17] <Guest7785> still waiting for it to load
[02:17] <Jordan_U> !classic | SIFTU
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> SIFTU: we can resolve the issues, thats a simple choice to make
[02:18] <SIFTU> ActionParsnip: ok I hand it over to you
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> Guest7785: what is the product line of the wireless device please?
[02:19] <blomp> Should i use 32 bit or 64 for my laptop?
[02:19] <ActionParsnip> blomp: how much RAM do you have and what is the use of the system?
[02:19] <SIFTU> blomp: I suggest you listen to the other members of this room in order to get ubuntu working and your sandy bridge proc with on chip intel gpu
[02:20] <Lasers> blomp: Run "grep --color=always -iw lm /proc/cpuinfo" and paste one-liner result here.
[02:20] <ewok4357> i have a dell mini 1012...if i install ubuntu will i run into problems networking with my windows computers?
[02:20] <blomp> ActionParsnip: 4gb
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> blomp: what CPU is it?
[02:21] <Guest7785> iys a broadcom
[02:21] <Lasers> blomp: Run that command -- and it'll tell you (us too) if your machine is capable of running 64bit.
[02:21] <ActionParsnip> ewok4357: depends how you mean "networking", it will comunicate using the defacto standards for network communications...
[02:21] <|usr|bin|nice> are the packages for Ubuntu only optimize for i386 and x86_64?
[02:21] <ActionParsnip> Guest7785: a broadcom 43xx ?
[02:22] <ewok4357> newbie here.....i would just want to be able to print and access shared files/folders
[02:22] <Guest7785> trying to figure out how to find out
[02:22] <ActionParsnip> ewok4357: yes that will be fine. Instead of saying "network" which means very littel, say what you mean
[02:22] <ActionParsnip> Guest7785: I gave the command to find out, just run it then wait for the system to be scanned. You wil be shown
[02:22] <Lasers> |usr|bin|nice: Looks like "powerpc" arch too.
[02:22] <supercom32> So, I've installed apache and the SCGI module on Buntu and I've used the clause "SCGIMount /RPC2 <IP_ADDRESS>:5000" in my apache2.conf file and even when I restart apache, I can't see to find it listening on that port. Any ideas?
[02:23] <ActionParsnip> Guest7785: what is there to figure out?
[02:23] <ewok4357> will i have to do any extra installs inside ubuntu?  Or will it be easy to setup like windows is?
[02:23] <Guest7785> i ran the command  it saya
[02:23] <|usr|bin|nice> Lasers, I see
[02:24] <escott> |usr|bin|nice, i think there are i686 optimizations in i386 arch
[02:24] <Guest7785> broadcom clock 33mhz doesnt say what kind
[02:24] <ewok4357> also....do i need to do the ubuntu netbook version or will the regular ubuntu install work?
[02:24] <ActionParsnip> ewok4357: you can browse windows shares with no extra packages to install#
[02:24] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | Guest7785
[02:24] <Lasers> ewok4357: If you're new to linux, I hope you don't use that netbook as your primary/sole machine.
[02:25] <ewok4357> no i dont...it is an extra
[02:25] <ActionParsnip> ewok4357: there is no more netbook edition of ubuntu
[02:25] <|usr|bin|nice> escott, you mean some i386 softwares are optimize for i686 ?
[02:25] <Lasers> ewok4357: That's great. Never dive in without any plans. :)
[02:26] <paul67431> what happened to the netbook edition of Ubuntu?
[02:26] <ewok4357> i just know the netbooks are sometimes slow with win7, and want it to run faster
[02:26] <Lasers> !unr | paul67431
[02:26] <ActionParsnip> paul67431: its no longer developed, there is a PPA for it if you REALLY want
[02:26] <paul67431> oh ok, thanks
[02:27] <mASOUD_42> ewok4357, if you want really fast gui i suggest you try lubuntu
[02:27] <escott> |usr|bin|nice, a lot of the more performance critical applications will dynamically switch to using sse type features
[02:27] <Guest7785> any reason why ubuntu is running
[02:27] <Guest7785> really slow
[02:28] <ActionParsnip> Guest7785: do you now have wifi setup?
[02:28] <|usr|bin|nice> escott, ah, i see. good to know
[02:28] <Guest7785> no i unimstalled bcml-modialiases earlier like someone suggested and cant get it reinstalled
[02:29] <ActionParsnip> Guest7785: do you have WWW access?
[02:29] <Guest7785> yea, im dual booted with win 7
[02:29] <Guest7785> im on my phone on the irc
[02:29] <ActionParsnip> Guest7785: Wni7 is moot, do you have www acces IN UBUNTU
[02:30] <escott> |usr|bin|nice, they can play around a bit with optimization. its possible to target a later machine but still be 386 compatible
[02:30] <Guest7785> no
[02:30] <ActionParsnip> Guest7785: is the system a laptop?
[02:30] <Guest7785> yes
[02:30] <ActionParsnip> Guest7785: get a wired connection and get fully updated
[02:30] <Guest7785> brand new dell m501r
[02:30] <|usr|bin|nice> escott, you mean the Ubuntu devs?
[02:30] <escott> |usr|bin|nice, its the difference between -march and -mtune options for gcc
[02:31] <Guest7785> ok let me go find some cat 5 cables
[02:31] <goer> how to select (gui) and convert pdf to text or OO or .doc pls?
[02:32] <evilive> why wireshark can't display mine tp-link wireless card?
[02:33] <ActionParsnip> goer: libre/openoffice can export to PDF
[02:34] <ActionParsnip> goer: if you run: sudo apt-get install poppler-utils    you can run:  pdftotext abc.pdf xyz.txt  to convert PDF to text
[02:34] <goer> ActionParsnip: you did not read my ? correctly. I want to export form pdf to text
[02:34] <goer> ActionParsnip: I have poppler but dont know how to work it
[02:35] <ActionParsnip> goer: you didn't read my reply, the command converts pdf to txt
[02:35] <ActionParsnip> goer: I gave the command you need
[02:35] <goer> ok thnx
[02:37] <Guest7785> ok im comnected wired
[02:37] <Jordan_U> goer: Note that if you can't even select the text in evince then it's likely that the PDF is actually just a document filled with images of text rather than actual text (more common that you might think unfortunately).
[02:38] <Guest7785> downloading 46 files
[02:39] <goer> Jordan_U:  u r right i think. cannot select it
[02:39] <Guest7785> this slowness is killing me
[02:40] <abc_dallas> Can somebody in here that knows how to use Xchat help me out on how to connect to a channel
[02:40] <abc_dallas> do i have to somehow log onto the server before i can join channel?
[02:40] <urlin2u> abc_dallas, /join "channel"
[02:40] <GTAXL> abc_dallas /join #channel
[02:41] <abc_dallas> i tried that...ok, i'm trying again
[02:41] <Blacksyke> par example, /join #ubuntu
[02:41] <GTAXL> You might have to register your nick to join some channels.
[02:41] <escott> !register | abc_dallas
[02:43] <Guest7785> do i need to diwnload the amd/ati proprietary fglrx graphic driver?
[02:43] <muelli> no.
[02:45] <Guest7785> updating now on file 20 of 29
[02:46] <ActionParsnip> Guest7785: let updates finish and reboot, then use the driver app and install the drivers you need
[02:47] <muelli> So. Nobody has any questions or problems? :-) That's brilliant!
[02:48] <Guest7785> wifi is my least prob
[02:48] <Guest7785> i wanna know why its running
[02:48] <Guest7785> real slow
[02:49] <fschuindt> Hello guys. I'm using Ubuntu 11.04, I'm tryin to install "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" but I always get the error "403 Forbiden Cannot find some files"
[02:49] <fschuindt> Somebody knows what could be?
[02:49] <_BS_> Can Samba make use of / store passwords encrypted. (NOT talking about exchanging encrypted passwords.)
[02:49] <ActionParsnip> Guest7785: you need video drivers probably installing depends on the video chip used.
[02:49] <muelli> fschuindt: try a apt-get update first
[02:49] <Guest7785> its ati radeon hd 4250 card
[02:49] <ActionParsnip> _BS_: yes the keyring can have a password on it
[02:49] <chaospsychex> i have a dual-boot setup and have a question. I have three partition on my HDD right now. dev/sda1 = ubuntu dev/sda2 =  100mb system reserved that windows 7 created and finally /dev/sda3 = windows 7 partition. My question is if I create a FINAL NTFS partition that acts as a storage bin that i can access from either OS, will i run into problems?
[02:49] <fschuindt> muelli: Yes, I've done ir
[02:49] <fschuindt> it*
[02:50] <ActionParsnip> Guest7785: then yes you'll need the ati driver, you will be using the open source driver currently
[02:50] <fschuindt> I think that's some problem in my repository.
[02:50] <DanaG> Now it's AMD.
[02:50] <muelli> fschuindt: then pastebin us your exact output including prompt from where you've called the command.
[02:50] <DanaG> If you want to be literal, "ati" is/was a wrapper around Radeon.
[02:50] <fschuindt> muelli: Its in portuguese.
[02:51] <DanaG> Say, if I can confirm an Expired bug, should I move it back to New, or Confirmed?
[02:51] <muelli> fschuindt: that's a problem. Do smth like LC_ALL=C beforehand
[02:51] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/677042
[02:51] <miki> is there a channel for help with tv cards?
[02:53] <fschuindt> muelli: http://pastebin.com/TA6nZNRi
[02:53] <muelli> fschuindt: execute "export LC_ALL=C" and do it again. That should reset your output to plain english
[02:54] <muelli> fschuindt: and also show us the output of an "apt-get update".
[02:55] <_BS_> ActionParsnip: I anticipate (system) mounting in fstab. Don't know that a keyring is available then. Preferably, I'm thinking it should use /etc/passwd. Alternately, is there not a process whereby the password string is encrypted? e.g. password=8eg47af.
[02:56] <ActionParsnip> _BS_: if its a samba mount you can put the account in a credentials file and mark it only readable by root
[02:57] <fschuindt> muelli: apt-get update: http://pastebin.com/F0YMSRhH //apt-get install: http://pastebin.com/aGLcP60a
[02:58] <fschuindt> muelli: how I back to my original language in terminal?
[02:58] <muelli> fschuindt: unset LC_ALL
[02:58] <fschuindt> muelli: thanks
[02:59] <Guest7785> whats it mean whwn i type sudo apt-get install and it tells me cant find canditate
[02:59] <fschuindt> muelli: So, what you think?
[03:00] <muelli> hm fschuindt. That's weird. I can download the packages from, say, http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/t/tango-icon-theme-common/tango-icon-theme-common_0.7-0ubuntu1_all.deb. So I think your Brazilian mirror is broken at the moment.
[03:00] <fschuindt> muelli: Hm... Thank you very much! :)
[03:01] <muelli> fschuindt: you could try to replace your Brazilian mirrors in your /etc/apt/sources.list* by something non brazilian. But that's an ugly work around. The real fix would be to find out why the mirror doesn't have these packages.
[03:01] <brandon> Hello all, I am having trouble configuring Ubuntu 11.04 to enable Remote Desktop so I can remote into it on the same network from a different room.
[03:01] <JoeR1> so, I tried (and failed) to compile the 3.0.1 kernel and now Ubuntu doesn't boot unless I kill the power during disk access thereby forcing a recovery menu - So I'm thinking now would be a good time to wipe all the 3.0 files and maybe try again
[03:02] <muelli> brandon: why is that? Just execute "vino-preferences" and you should see every setting you need
[03:02] <DanaG> Anyone here familiar with the Unison sync tool?
[03:02] <DanaG> (Particularly the CVS version's "repeat watch" option.)
[03:02] <muelli> JoeR1: just do it then :-)
[03:03] <Guest13688> I am having a problem with a mp3 device mounting.
[03:03] <younes> bonsoir
[03:03] <Guest13688> When I click on the mp3 device in the "Computer" folder it doesn't seem to do anything.
[03:03] <JoeR1> muelli - well to be honest this is the first kernel-upgrade compile I have ever done so i am not 100% on how to get rid of the files other than just deleting them but I am sure there must be some kind of registry issue
[03:03] <Guest13688> It's a GPX Optimuo Mp4
[03:04] <muelli> Guest13688: hm. Very possible that the device behaves weirdly. Open up a terminal (Ctrl+Alt+T). Unplug the device. Execute "sudo dmesg -c". Plug the device in. Execute "sudo dmesg -c" and pastebin us the result.
[03:04] <Guest7785> what does .run filea open with?
[03:05] <muelli> JoeR1: well. delete the kernel files in /boot/ and do smth like "sudo update-grub" and "sudo update-initramfs -u".
[03:05] <muelli> JoeR1: depending on your GRUB version, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst or the like and remove the lines that refer to 3.0.
[03:06] <muelli> JoeR1: And more importantly: Don't do such things if you don't understand what you're doing.
[03:07] <ActionParsnip> Guest7785: its a binary, you mark it as executable and run it
[03:07] <younes> allo
[03:07] <muelli> !fr | younes
[03:08] <JoeR1> muelli oi come off it, everything is a learning curve and this is good experience and beside what do care if I screw this thing?
[03:08] <ga_sk8er> i loadedubuntu today. been a while since ive ran it ive orgot alot of the stuff
[03:08] <ga_sk8er> im running version 9.10
[03:09] <jjb123> Hey guys, I need some help getting apache to work. So I'm trying to get Apache2 set up on my Linode server. I used this tutorial: http://library.linode.com/getting-started#sph_set-the-hostname to set up my hostname. I used this tutorial to set up Apache: http://library.linode.com/lamp-guides/ubuntu-10.04-lucid Whenever I try to connect to my server's IP, it says the connection was reset. My apache log files in /var/log/apache2 don't show
[03:09] <jjb123> Any ideas?
[03:09] <ga_sk8er> whats the terminal command to update every program installed?
[03:09] <muelli> JoeR1: well. You are basically asking us to fix the system you broke yourself. That's not considered to be nice. But fortunately we gave you hints anyway. So let's hope they worked for you.
[03:09] <urlin2u> ga_sk8er, that version is past end of life.
[03:09] <muelli> ga_sk8er: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get update
[03:09] <_BS_> ActionParsnip: Yes, I know, I'm tried to avoid that. By preference, let me reask the question this way: Can samba make use of /etc/passwd, directly and solely?
[03:09] <muelli> ga_sk8er: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:10] <ga_sk8er> urlin2u im using it until i can get windows on my pc
[03:10] <Guest13688> muelli: http://pastebin.com/z8EJhpp8
[03:10] <JoeR1> muelli - actually I think I just figured it out, It looks like I configured lilo wrong and the 3.0 kernel may be just fine
[03:10] <ga_sk8er> muelli thanks
[03:10] <muelli> _BS_: you might want to ask the samba guys directly.
[03:10] <ActionParsnip> _BS_: not sure there dude, could try asking in #samba
[03:10] <_BS_> muelli, ActionParsnip: Thanks.
[03:11] <ga_sk8er> been a few yrs so i forgot the commnads
[03:11] <urlin2u> ga_sk8er, no problem just letting you know, here is a wiki. http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2011/03/29/ubuntu-9-10-reaches-end-of-life-on-april-30-2011/
[03:12] <muelli> Guest13688: hm. looks weird indeed. Could you do it one more time please? I.e. unplug, dmesg -c (not interesting), plug in, dmesg -c (whichs result is interesting).
[03:12] <JoeR1> muelli - besdies I didn't break it that bad, for example I am using Xubuntu right now
[03:12] <ga_sk8er> i saw something i hadnt seen happen before in ubuntu...in the software center i could select a program but i cant see the install button anywhere
[03:12] <Tech_Support> xubuntu has multimonitoring issues
[03:13] <ga_sk8er> i cant even get an irc client to install on here
[03:13] <Tech_Support> then how are you talking to us?
[03:13] <ga_sk8er> internet based...not downloaded or installed one
[03:13] <urlin2u> ga_sk8er, the 9.10 apps are not in the regular repos.
[03:13] <ga_sk8er> webchat.freenode.net
[03:13] <Tech_Support> ah
[03:14] <muelli> hihi.. "internet based"...
[03:14] <Flannel> ga_sk8er: Almost sounds like you don't have admin rights
[03:14] <ga_sk8er> shouldnt this apt-update & apt-upgrade make it into 11.4?
[03:14] <muelli> ga_sk8er: no.
[03:14] <Bridge|> anyone good with tomcat here?
[03:15] <muelli> ga_sk8er: there is "update-manager" for that.
[03:15] <Tech_Support> tomcat?
[03:15] <ga_sk8er> Flannel i should have admin rights. i loaded ubuntu today & im only user on the pc
[03:15] <ga_sk8er> oh
[03:15] <Bridge|> Tech_Support: java web app server
[03:15] <Tech_Support> ah
[03:15] <Tech_Support> nope
[03:15] <Tech_Support> lol
[03:16] <The_Rufus> ok, i need a hand now if possible. I need to get my HighPoint RocketRaid 2320 working. Just clean installed Ubuntu Server 11
[03:16] <FriGiN> am i finally here?
[03:16] <Bridge|> i've popped in and out of there support chan on freenode idleing for about 24hrs at a time for about 2-3weeks, and still no ones tried to help me anyone in there
[03:16] <muelli> The_Rufus: what's the actual problem?
[03:17] <ga_sk8er> maybe the newer version will let my floppy drive work. i need it so i  can do something
[03:17] <The_Rufus> my problem is I know nothing
[03:17] <xangua> ga_sk8er: 9.10 and it's epository is no longer supported, i suggest you to download and install a stable supported version from ubuntu.com
[03:17] <muelli> Bridge|: well. IRC is not necessarily the best support medium. Try writing their mailinglist.
[03:17] <FriGiN> omg i am.. good .. ActionParsnip sorry bout earlier im on my cell for net and it died.. i dont have network connection on the desktop still having grub issues, and i want windows loader back
[03:17] <urlin2u> FriGiN, do you have a windows disc?
[03:18] <FriGiN> urlin2u: yes.
[03:18] <FriGiN> urlin2u: its win 7 fdisk /mbr doesnt work
[03:18] <Guest13688> muelli: http://pastebin.com/FTQ8b1SY (Part 2)
[03:18] <muelli> The_Rufus: well. You have to understand that our crystal ball is broken right now and we can't magically see your problem. So I'm afraid that you have to explain it to us.
[03:18] <ga_sk8er> xangua if i run the "update manager that muelli was talking about would that update the whole system to 11.4
[03:18] <xangua> ga_sk8er: no
[03:18] <urlin2u> FriGiN, repair terminal bootrec.exe /fixmbr
[03:19] <ga_sk8er> dang i guess i  got to do the disc then
[03:19] <xangua> 9.10 upgrades to 10.04
[03:19] <ga_sk8er> somewhee i  got fedora...maybe ill try it
[03:19] <FriGiN> copy that trying now
[03:19] <Guest72161> Hey guys need some help getting my video card working properly, anyone got some time?
[03:19] <urlin2u> FriGiN, booted disc repair.
[03:19] <muelli> Guest13688: :-/ look as if your MP3 player behaves weirdly on the USB :-( I wouldn't know how to fix that. It's probably a  weird device not according to the standards.
[03:21] <ga_sk8er> guest. what is ur mp3 player doing?
[03:22] <Guest13688> muelli: I don't know if this would be the cause of the issue or not but the device was formly plugged up to an apple/ibook and utilized in that way.. Would there be a lock or something on it by that OS/system that wont allow access on other systems
[03:22] <urlin2u> Guest72138, have you named the card on the channel/
[03:22] <urlin2u> ?
[03:22] <FriGiN> side question while im waiting on win7 recovery to boot.. i saw an error message earlier today when messing about with all this.. it basically said that im limited to udma33 for my hdd's cuz im on a 40wire cable but these drives are udma 133.. any insight? isnt sata cable a sata cable?
[03:25] <ga_sk8er> im  jsut waiting on this stupid thing to finish its updates
[03:26] <FriGiN> urlin2u: rebooted after bootrec /fixmbr - still get error no such device: "hex for my hdd" ... grub rescue>
[03:26] <ga_sk8er> even with 1GB memory it takes a while
[03:27] <SIFTU> JoeR1: lol i agree.. learn by breaking it.. thats how I learn too
[03:27] <urlin2u> FriGiN, try these 4 commands  in the order they appear. http://paste.ubuntu.com/667878/
[03:28] <JoeR1> siftu - well yeah, it's not like a car if I break linux I can just re-install no harm no foul
[03:28] <ga_sk8er> thats kinda why im in ubuntu right now...hdd error....bios reads my hdd but windows wont read my hdd....ubuntu reads it so i put ubuntu to thehdd for now
[03:28] <urlin2u> FriGiN, is the boot on the C partition or a boot partiton?
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> ga_sk8er: ram doesn't hugely affect updates, its more the drive speed
[03:28] <ga_sk8er> action...but ram does make the pc go faster
[03:29] <ccmonster> hey guys, my wireless wont seem to connect
[03:29] <ccmonster> it just started happening. 11.04
[03:29] <FriGiN> urlin2u: at this point only my raid 0 is left in the box. which is the drive that had my mbr b4
[03:29] <ga_sk8er> cc monster ....have u connected before?
[03:29] <SIFTU> JoeR1: I enjoy breaking and and fixing it
[03:29] <ccmonster> yes. it just started happening
[03:29] <urlin2u> FriGiN, in other word do you see W7 identified?
[03:30] <ActionParsnip> ga_sk8er: true but updates are replacing files on the drive with new ones
[03:30] <JoeR1> SIFTU - engineer by chance?
[03:30] <FriGiN> i didnt really look after i put my raid driver in the recovery console the first time i just assumed it was there like it had been.. im going back in to do what you said
[03:30] <SIFTU> JoeR1: yep :) you?
[03:31] <ga_sk8er> action. i know what its doing. replacing with newer versions of programs. im just being impatient & its taking a while lol
[03:31] <JoeR1> SIFTU - I studied at Vanderbilt but I didn't graduate (I ran out money)
[03:31] <ccmonster> any idea?
[03:31] <urlin2u> FriGiN, run them like this with a C    C:http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927392
[03:31] <JoeR1> SIFTU - Mechanical for me you?
[03:32] <The_Rufus> my terminal screen goes off the edge of my monitor and I can't read anything to the left. How can you change the resolution of your command line
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> ga_sk8er: you can speed up the download speed by using apt-fast instead of apt-get etc
[03:32] <urlin2u> oopps hold on FriGiN
[03:32] <urlin2u> FriGiN, C:BootRec.exe /fixmbr
[03:32] <ga_sk8er> its done now...brb...gotta restart pc
[03:33] <urlin2u> FriGiN, the mistaken post is a good link though on bcd
[03:33] <FriGiN> my problem with that is that it wont be c my hdd doesnt load till i load drivers for it.. so it will be f or g or what have you.
[03:33] <ccmonster> my wireless seems to just not connect
[03:33] <ccmonster> it keeps asking for the password, which i know is correct
[03:34] <ccmonster> and i know its on, because my tablet is connected to it
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> ccmonster: what wireless chip are you using?
[03:34] <FriGiN> ccmonster: stupid question.. have you restarted your router?
[03:34] <ccmonster> its a usb wireless
[03:34] <ccmonster> and yea, i did it twice
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> ccmonster: it still has a wireless chip inside
[03:35] <ga_sk8er> miss me? lol
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> ccmonster: and how did you set it up (if you had to manually do so)
[03:35] <ccmonster> its has randomly stopped working tonight
[03:35] <Guest7785> back got disconnected
[03:36] <Guest7785> ubumtu is
[03:36] <ccmonster> the usb wireless adapter is functioning, as it can connect to my wireless hotspot on my phone (which is what im on now)
[03:36] <ccmonster> it is a belkin wireless
[03:36] <Guest7785> running faster now
[03:36] <ActionParsnip> ccmonster: ok, try running:   lsusb    what is the line identifying the device? The make ISN'T the chip
[03:36] <ActionParsnip> Guest7785: magic huh
[03:37] <ccmonster> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 050d:905b Belkin Components F5D9050 Wireless G+ MIMO Network Adapter v3000 [Ralink RT2573]
[03:37] <Guest7785> yea, still cant get wireless working
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> ccmonster: ok so its a ralink RT2573
[03:37] <vitor-br> the firefox stable ppa has released the version 6?
[03:37] <ccmonster> yeap
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> !ff6
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> ccmonster: if you run:  sudo iwlist scan | head -n 20    what is the device name (wlan0 and ra0 are common)
[03:38] <urlin2u> I think that ppa is incorrect.
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> urlin2u: you can suggest new factoids if you wish
[03:38] <atdprhs> Hello, is it possible to decrease the swap to 1 GB instead of 2 GB to give the file system more space?
[03:38] <theadmin> Gosh, Firefox 6 >.<
[03:38] <WallyJ2K> Ok all... I updated my video drivers in Ubuntu Classic. Now I can get into Standard "Ubuntu" when I log in. But now "Update Manager" crashes when I try to run it. Ideas?
[03:38] <theadmin> atdprhs: You can resize partitions from any livecd with gparted
[03:38] <ccmonster> there isnt anything listed as device name
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> atdprhs: boot to liveCD and you should be able to resize partition
[03:38] <atdprhs> will it effect the installed ubuntu?
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> ccmonster: it doesn't say 'device name'
[03:39] <ccmonster> i can see the essid of my phone that it's connected to
[03:39] <ccmonster> cell01
[03:39] <ActionParsnip> ccmonster: like the wired connection is eth0
[03:39] <theadmin> atdprhs: Not really, except it could end up running slower
[03:39] <ccmonster> it says wlan0
[03:39] <FriGiN> urlin2u: it finds the directory that has my OS in it.. however both /fixboot and /rebuildbcd return "element not found"
[03:39] <ccmonster> but there isn't anything titled device name
[03:39] <ActionParsnip> ccmonster: ok that's cool
[03:39] <theadmin> atdprhs: Basic idea - delete swap, resize /, recreate swap with a smaller size
[03:39] <atdprhs> how much swap is required to be at least?
[03:39] <urlin2u> ActionParsnip, I don't know how, but the FF6 is rumored on the doorstep, knocking so seems better to wait till then. ;-)
[03:39] <theadmin> atdprhs: 1 gig is fine
[03:40] <theadmin> atdprhs: Normally, $swap = $RAM*2, but I'd never create a 8-gig swap xD 1 gig is enough
[03:40] <seclm193> How do i update flash?
[03:40] <atdprhs> okayz, so with Gparted from the live CD, I delete part of the swap and then give that part that I deleted to the File System "/"
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> urlin2u: i guess, not something I use or care about
[03:40] <urlin2u> FriGiN, not sure about raid and Windows, anybody suggest the bootscript?
[03:40] <ccmonster> so what next?
[03:40] <atdprhs> it will not damage anything, right theadmin?
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> ccmonster: tried disabling wireless security, to test
[03:41] <xangua> seclm193: did you install it from repository¿
[03:41] <theadmin> atdprhs: It won't.
[03:41] <atdprhs> I actually need to do that because I only have like 20 MB free on the file system...
[03:41] <ccmonster> disabling wireless security ?
[03:41] <ActionParsnip> ccmonster: just to test
[03:41] <urlin2u> ActionParsnip, sounds pragmatic me ethier I use it though. ;)
[03:41] <atdprhs> well, thank you theadmin!
[03:41] <ccmonster> in ubuntu?
[03:41] <atdprhs> and ActionParsnip
[03:42] <theadmin> atdprhs: No problem at all.
[03:42] <ccmonster> not sure how to do that ActionParsnip
[03:42] <theadmin> Oh, he left. Wanted to suggest him Bleachbit >.<
[03:42] <vitor-br> I updated firefox now, thanks
[03:42] <WallyJ2K> currently running the command line update to see if updated packages fix the problem
[03:44] <ga_sk8er> how do i install adobe flash on ubuntu
[03:45] <urlin2u> FriGiN, can you boot a ubuntu live cd and come on the channel to post the bootscript
[03:45] <ga_sk8er> i want to watch youtube videos
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> urlin2u: arora or chromium daily build here. Firefox can die for all I care :)
[03:45] <theadmin> ga_sk8er: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[03:45] <urlin2u> ActionParsnip, lol.
[03:45] <theadmin> ga_sk8er: Also, youtube doesn't need flash :/
[03:45] <ga_sk8er> theadmin thanks
[03:45] <urlin2u> minitube
[03:45] <FriGiN> no the wifi card i have on the desktop isnt working.. its an ae1000 and ive been having troubles with it
[03:46] <ga_sk8er> theadmin ...i went to youtube & it said it does
[03:46] <Pezhedz> i'm trying to solve a wifi issue too
[03:46] <thedangler> hello. AllowTcpForwarding is not in my sshd_config file is that normal. running 11.04
[03:46] <bennis> hey, if i wanted to acces the keyboard config where mousekeys are stored via keyboard and alt+f2, whatcommand would i run?
[03:46] <ferz> hi all
[03:46] <urlin2u> FriGiN, did you try installing wicd?
[03:46] <ccmonster> ActionParsnip, how do i disable wireless security?
[03:47] <ActionParsnip> ccmonster: its a setting in your router
[03:47] <Pezhedz> can anyone step through a wireless setup with me? I searched the forums and tried everything with no luck
[03:47] <ccmonster> i think i need to be physically connected and I dont have any laptops in the house at the moment
[03:47] <FriGiN> urlin2u: dont know about wicd, and dont know how to install if im not connected..
[03:47] <The_Rufus> Can anyone tell me how to change the resolution in bash?
[03:47] <escott> ccmonster, you could move the router
[03:47] <urlin2u> FriGiN, I see the wireless card, well if you could hard plug that thing and post the bootscript there may be hope
[03:48] <theadmin> The_Rufus: xrandr -s 640x480
[03:48] <ccmonster> I wish I could.
[03:48] <ccmonster> the wireless is next to a box where the actual fiber is wired into the apt
[03:48] <FriGiN> urlin2u: i'll do my damnedest. see what happens.
[03:48] <Guest81553> hey guys im having a problem running an os on virtual box when i try to startx
[03:48] <The_Rufus> I'm not in Xwindows, i'm in a command shell
[03:48] <The_Rufus> I'm running server
[03:48] <escott> ccmonster, disconnect it. you dont need to be online to disable the wa
[03:48] <urlin2u> FriGiN, this sort of fix is easy with the right tools to see if can be done or not.
[03:49] <ccmonster> i am on my phones wireless connectino
[03:49] <ccmonster> i can turn the router off, then back on. is that what you mean?
[03:49] <ccmonster> why would the router randomly NOT allow one single device
[03:49] <FriGiN> urlin2u: im ready to put a bullet in my head, now it wont boot at all.. post completes but wont even boot off of the usb now.
[03:50] <The_Rufus> anyone?
[03:50] <ActionParsnip> ccmonster: no, you need to access the configuration in the router and turn off the encryption so that it is unprotected, to see if it connects then
[03:50] <theadmin> The_Rufus: Ah... You need to change your kernel line
[03:50] <ActionParsnip> ccmonster: if I'd meant turn it off and on I would have said that
[03:51] <The_Rufus> theadmin: how do you do that?
[03:51] <theadmin> The_Rufus: http://shrimpworks.za.net/2005/01/31/change-your-console-resolution-and-colour-depth/
[03:51] <bennis> hey, if i wanted to acces the keyboard config where mousekeys are stored via keyboard and alt+f2, whatcommand would i run?
[03:51] <ccmonster> again, why is the router randomly NOT allowing one machine?
[03:51] <theadmin> The_Rufus: The grub menu file in Ubuntu though is /etc/default/grub or something
[03:52] <escott> ccmonster, it may be restricted by mac address
[03:52] <PerfieM> Yes!
[03:52] <PerfieM> I'm UNBANNED
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> ccmonster: if the wirelees cannot connect to the encryption you are using then you won't be able to connect. You could try reinstating the driver in the same way you installed it the first time
[03:54] <ActionParsnip> PerfieM: just don't get banned again ;)
[03:54] <theadmin> PerfieM: Just try not to get yourself banned again
[03:54] <PerfieM> ActionParsnip: I can't make any promises :/
[03:54] <ccmonster> it has connected to this router fine, for weeks.
[03:54] <theadmin> PerfieM: Follow the !Guidelines and you'll be fine.
[03:54] <FriGiN> ban him hes a heretic... oh wait..that was someone else.
[03:54] <ccmonster> escott, i guess that is possible.
[03:55] <PerfieM> theadmin: okay, thanks for the advice sir,
[03:59] <atdprhs> hello
[03:59] <atdprhs> I'm back again
[03:59] <atdprhs> I'm sorry
[03:59] <atdprhs> I deleted the swap
[03:59] <FloodBot1> atdprhs: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:59] <bennis> is there a way to access the 'system' menu with the keyboard in gnome?
[03:59] <atdprhs> but I can't add the unallocated resources to /
[03:59] <atdprhs> what do I do?
[03:59] <escott> bennis, windows key then type system
[03:59] <bennis> thank you!
[03:59] <bennis> um
[03:59] <bennis> windows key doesn't doanything?
[04:00] <escott> atdprhs, you have to boot the system in a livecd and then grow the partition
[04:00] <atdprhs> I am on livecd
[04:00] <escott> bennis,  is this classic gnome? maybe the "menu" key (the one on the other side)
[04:01] <jmcantrell> should i use ext2 or ext3 for a large external drive?
[04:01] <bennis> escott: the munu key just does a right click basically
[04:01] <escott> jmcantrell, ext4 is probably best
[04:01] <theadmin> jmcantrell: ext2 has no journal thus will wear the drive out less
[04:01] <jmcantrell> ok. so ext2 or ext4?
[04:02] <atdprhs> escott, I'm trying to grow / partition with more space by taking 1 GB from 2 GB swap
[04:02] <atdprhs> it seems that swap is in an extended partition
[04:02] <ccmonster> alright i re-restarted the router
[04:02] <nperea> hello
[04:02] <nperea> there
[04:02] <ccmonster> how do i see what is happening AS the card tried to connect to the wireess?
[04:02] <escott> jmcantrell, its a bit more like pick your features, ext2=basic ext3=ext2+journal which would wear out an ssd, ext4=ext3+extents, but you can have ext4-journal if you need
[04:02] <ccmonster> wireless*
[04:03] <escott> atdprhs, what are the partition numbers of the relevent partitions
[04:03] <nperea> i have a problem with my httrack offline software
[04:03] <jmcantrell> would i need journalling on an external drive?
[04:03] <nperea> it doesnt work
[04:03] <theadmin> nperea: ?
[04:03] <atdprhs> sdb1
[04:04] <atdprhs> then sdb2
[04:04] <nperea> somebody help me
[04:04] <theadmin> jmcantrell: Unless you plan power failures, no
[04:04] <atdprhs> then sdb3
[04:04] <theadmin> nperea: Define "doesn't work".
[04:04] <atdprhs> the unallocated is sdb2
[04:04] <escott> jmcantrell, ever knocked a usb cord out? then yes
[04:04] <atdprhs> there is 3 and 4 and 5
[04:04] <escott> !enter | atdprhs
[04:04] <atdprhs> I mean 5 and 6 only, no 3 or 4
[04:04] <escott> atdprhs, and what is what?
[04:04] <stanley_> Hi Guys, need some serious help with my graphics card...anybody got some time?
[04:05] <theadmin> atdprhs: Send a screenshot please, so it's less confusing
[04:05] <ambar> ,'
[04:05] <theadmin> stanley_: Just ask the question, whoever knows will help
[04:05] <atdprhs> there is sdb1, sdb2 (Extended)(, unallocated, sdb5, sdb6
[04:05] <nperea> theadmin it that software in win version track an entire website and download it for offline browsing
[04:05] <theadmin> nperea: I know what it does.
[04:05] <urlin2u> stanley_, name the card and the question?
[04:05] <theadmin> nperea: How it "doesn't work"?
[04:05] <bennis> is there a way to access the 'system' menu with the keyboard in gnome?
[04:05] <nperea> but here in ubunto when i try i get an error
[04:06] <nperea> it didnt nothing
[04:06] <escott> bennis, do you have a terminal?
[04:06] <atdprhs> okayz
[04:06] <theadmin> nperea: For god's sake, WHAT error?
[04:06] <bennis> escott: yes, i'm in irc in it right now
[04:06] <atdprhs> theadmin, how do I send the screenshot?
[04:06] <stanley_> ok running natty with an ATI technologies inc Rage 128 RK/VR graphics card, need to install the driver so I can get desktop effects and a clearer resolution
[04:06] <bennis> escott: i'm trying to turn on mouse keys
[04:07] <escott> bennis, have you tried gnome-control-center or gnome-sys[TAB] i think its the first
[04:07] <theadmin> atdprhs: Printscreen. Save. Upload to your favorite image hosting site.
[04:07] <stanley_> propriety drivers arent available
[04:08] <linuxuz3r_> sup
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> stanley_: single monitor system?
[04:09] <stanley_> yepp single monitor
[04:09] <The_Rufus> stupid Highpoint, release drivers but the tar file is missing the .h files
[04:09] <atdprhs> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/171/screenshotib.png/
[04:10] <theadmin> atdprhs: ookay, that's a pretty confusing setup
[04:10] <nperea> ok theadmin
[04:11] <urlin2u> linuxuz3r_, need anything?
[04:11] <atdprhs> what do I do?
[04:11] <linuxuz3r_> just saying sup
[04:11] <nperea> the admin it start to work properly
[04:11] <bennis> escott: thanks, it was the first one
[04:12] <nperea> thank a lot
[04:12] <bennis> escott: coulda just alt-f2'd that too xD
[04:12] <escott> atdprhs, you can add the 1.91 to part 5 by moving 5 to the left and then growing it. but it takes two steps
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> stanley_: what res do you use?
[04:13] <smw> Does anyone know what the feature difference is between ubottu's encyclopedia plugin and the supybot factoids plugin?
[04:13] <theadmin> nperea: Uhh... %)
[04:13] <stanley_> right now I am restriced to 1024 x 768 because my graphics card driver isn't installed properly, but you can see that the screen is out of focused and it fits awkwardly on the monitor
[04:14] <rww> smw: Metadiscussion about ubottu is more likely to get a response in #ubuntu-bots-team. It's a bit offtopic here :)
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> stanley_: is 1024x768 ok for you if it was sharper?
[04:14] <theadmin> atdprhs: I also wanted to suggest Bleachbit, which is a program to help you remove a ton of junk (e.g. temporary files, cache, etc) from your disk
[04:14] <stanley_> Essentially I would like to use a larger resolution
[04:14] <smw> rww, awesome, thanks for the tip
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> stanley_: that's what I'm asking. What res do you want?
[04:14] <stanley_> it would be if it was sharper
[04:14] <nperea> the admin a have a question
[04:15] <nperea> its about virtualbox
[04:15] <atdprhs> I will use that program, but I really want to decrease the swap to 1 GB and give the file system another extra 1 GB
[04:15] <atdprhs> Escott, I don't understand how that is possible
[04:15] <stanley_> I am not 100% certain what resolution I would like really it depends on how it fits on my screen once I see it
[04:15] <stanley_> but 1024 x 768 would be ok if it were sharper
[04:15] <escott> atdprhs, what filesystem? you have three of them. please be more specific
[04:15] <nperea> theadmin i have a question about virtualbox
[04:15] <theadmin> nperea: Ask it
[04:15] <atdprhs> sdb7 is home
[04:16] <escott> atdprhs, there is no 7
[04:16] <ActionParsnip> stanley_: ok run:  gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:16] <atdprhs> and sdb6 -> I don't know about that, because I did not really requested the manual partition to create it, I want to give 1 extra GB to sdb1
[04:16] <ActionParsnip> stanley_: paste in this text: http://pastebin.com/Av4NA1jY
[04:16] <nperea> theadmin it is posible to conect harware to a virtualized os
[04:17] <atdprhs> there is sdb7 which is 977.14, please look at the uploaded picture again
[04:17] <theadmin> nperea: Depends on what hardware you mean.
[04:17] <escott> atdprhs, im looking at it. there is no 7
[04:17] <stanley_> ok and save?
[04:17] <The_Rufus> AAAAAARRRRGGHHH!!!!! Why can't I do something as simple as get RAID to work!!! I hate highpoint now
[04:17] <The_Rufus> copmletely
[04:17] <atdprhs> oh
[04:17] <atdprhs> it is sdb6
[04:17] <The_Rufus> what use is having incomplete drivers on your website
[04:17] <nperea> theadmin so i want to get two fisical pcs working one with the host os
[04:18] <escott> atdprhs, and there is nothing that is 977.14. there is sdb6 which has 977.14 used, but is actually 1.07GB in size
[04:18] <nperea> theadmin and the another working with the guest os
[04:18] <jukebox-zero> Ok. So after make gets done compiling and starts linking the code for ffmpeg I get an output like "/home/jukebox-zero/ffmpeg/libavcodec/libx264.c:404: undefined reference to `x264_encoder_open_116'" among others. So I get that this is an unresolved symbol, but ok, now what. Am I missing the .c file or ? I checked the directory CC complained about but ~/ffmpeg/libavcodec doesn't seem to exist.
[04:18] <escott> atdprhs, now where do you want to add this free space
[04:18] <theadmin> nperea: Well, Virtualbox can boot from real hard drives
[04:18] <nperea> it is that posibole
[04:18] <atdprhs> sdb6 is home, sdb5, I don't know what is about it, because I didn't manually create it, I want to add 1 GB to sdb1
[04:18] <theadmin> nperea: Other than that, idk
[04:19] <stanley_> ActionParsnip: ok I pasted and saved that
[04:20] <atdprhs> escott, I want to add the free space to sdb1
[04:20] <nperea> how i can config two keyboard one of them to work with the real machine and the another working with the guest machine
[04:20] <nperea> ???
[04:20] <jukebox-zero> Er, LD, not CC sorry. Missed a line: collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[04:20] <escott> atdprhs, to do that, you would first have to delete 2, but doing so will automatically also delete 5 and 6. it is possible (but very dangerous) to write down the exact block locations of 5 and 6, then delete part 2 and recreate a new part 2 that is perfectly partitioned to allow you to exactly recreate part 5 and part 6 thus freeing space for part 1. i would NOT recommend you do this
[04:20] <nperea> the same with the mouse
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> stanley_: ok, reboot to test. If it is bad then hold shift at boot, select roecovery mode then select root and run:  mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_old       note the X ni X11 is capitalized. You can then run: reboot and you will be back where you are now
[04:21] <The_Rufus> can anyone tell me how to install drivers for Highpoint RocketRaid 2320 on Ubuntu 11 server edition? Please?
[04:21] <escott> atdprhs, you could see if gparted will do this for you by seeing if you can select part 2 and resize it
[04:22] <bazhang> The_Rufus, drivers for what
[04:22] <atdprhs> I did it
[04:23] <The_Rufus> HighPoint Rocket Raid 2320
[04:23] <atdprhs> how can I create the swap?
[04:23] <atdprhs> ("I did not delete 5 and 6)
[04:23] <bazhang> The_Rufus, wireless card, or something else
[04:23] <The_Rufus> I downloaded the driver from mhea: http://www.highpoint-tech.cn/BIOS_Driver/page/rr232x.htm
[04:23] <stanley_> ActionParsnip: ok if it is good what should I expect?
[04:23] <The_Rufus> RAID controller
[04:23] <theadmin> atdprhs: Choose any unallocated space you may have, create some partition there, format it to linux-swap
[04:24] <The_Rufus> Downloaded the Open Source driver and tried a make, but it tells me it needs a .h file which it can't find
[04:24] <mASOUD_42> hi, http://paste.ubuntu.com/667839/   this is a scrip using "zenity" to show a GUI message. it works when invoked form a terminal but when crontab calls it, it doesn't work.what's wrong?here's the crontab line i use http://paste.ubuntu.com/667844/
[04:25] <atdprhs> okayz
[04:26] <SIFTU> mASOUD_42: you dont have the full path to the script.. and are you running it as your user (the cron). and does it have $DISPLAY set?
[04:26] <FriGiN> urlin2u: im finally into ubuntu off a flash drive, for whatever reason it was having troubles had to move the usb to another port.. what now
[04:26] <atdprhs> I will reboot and test it, if it worked, I did not touch sdb5 and 6, it should work specially with the 1 GB linux-swap, right?
[04:27] <mASOUD_42> SIFTU, i placed the script in ~/bin . yea i run as user like i type crontab -e for editing it. dont know about $display
[04:28] <SIFTU> mASOUD_42: but ~/bin isnt in the $PATH
[04:28] <urlin2u> FriGiN, in the terminal run all the commands together, a text file will be in home copy and paste all of it to a pastebin and post the http.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/667640/
[04:28] <escott> atdprhs, you may need to adjust your /etc/fstab to reflect the new swap
[04:28] <urlin2u> FriGiN, link is the commands
[04:28] <SIFTU> mASOUD_42: you could add to the $PATH in your script.. or just use the full path in the crontab
[04:28] <FriGiN> urlin2u: net.. cant wget
[04:29] <FriGiN> urlin2u: oops.. no net. cant wget
[04:29] <mASOUD_42> SIFTU, i can run it only by typing its name. does it mean its in $PATH?
[04:29] <escott> SIFTU, by default ~/bin is in the path (if it exists)
[04:29] <urlin2u> FriGiN, didn't we talk about actually getting plugged in to get to the net?
[04:29] <The_Rufus> gah i give up
[04:30] <FriGiN> i told you i cant..
[04:30] <intrader> Anyone, elinks text terminal connects properly to network printer hosted by cups on a mac. The elinks program is able to do administrative tasks as well as print a test page. However, the 'Applications->System->Printing applet is not able to locate the printer and connect.
[04:30] <FriGiN> urlin2u: no cable/dls im on my cell phone via tether.. has to have wifi
[04:30] <SIFTU> mASOUD_42: ah ok.. well I would look at $DISPLAY while running in cron
[04:31] <mASOUD_42> SIFTU, ok ty. I'm gonna google the $DISPLAY
[04:31] <urlin2u> FriGiN, we just need more info to help you that means net access for doing this on that computer.
[04:31] <escott> mASOUD_42, if you want a cron job to show something visually you need to export DISPLAY=:0 and XAUTHORITY=$HOME/.XAuthority first
[04:31] <SIFTU> mASOUD_42: you can "echo $DISPLAY" in a terminal.. then get your script to write it out to a file to compare
[04:32] <urlin2u> FriGiN, I thought I was clear about that, we don't fix what we don't know.
[04:32] <FriGiN> urlin2u: i am going to try to use easytether see if that works.. it hasnt b4.. but lets hope
[04:32] <SIFTU> escott:  sounds right
[04:33] <FriGiN> urlin2u: i can dl on this pc, move it via usb to that pc and run it..
[04:33] <Nach0z> Hey i got a bit of an issue here... i'm trying to install Ubuntu 11.04 x64 from a CD and the installer is straightup not working. the only info i can get from it is "Installer has reached an unrecoverable error"
[04:33] <feng_> Does anybody use the vim + ctags to browse the kernel source code?
[04:33] <mASOUD_42> escott, export it where?  SIFTU , echo $DISPLAY returned :0.0
[04:33] <urlin2u> FriGiN, there you go if you can transfer between the two we can look at the boot script. ;-)
[04:33] <Nach0z> and then it boots into desktop mode. When i select the "help me boot from a CD" in the WUBI installer it gives me a permission denied error
[04:34] <SIFTU> mASOUD_42: in your script so as escott said
[04:34] <escott> mASOUD_42, in your script before you call the program which will connect to the Xserver
[04:34] <r3b00t> anybody maybe able to help me figure out why my netbook wont connect to my network?
[04:35] <mASOUD_42> SIFTU, escott , ok,let me try it
[04:35] <FriGiN> urlin2u: is there a tar for that.. do i just need the .sh file?
[04:35] <urlin2u> FriGiN, the wget will do it all and ask for a pasword.
[04:35] <r3b00t> when I try to connect to my router it says "network failed: bad password" but I didnt put it in wrong
[04:36] <urlin2u> the .sh  file is the one run though FriGiN
[04:36] <FriGiN> url i need to download whatever it is, and move it via usb, then install it.. then paste to pastebin for you..
[04:36] <jukebox-zero> Am I correct in assuming the message "~/ffmpeg/libavcodec/libx264.c:404: undefined reference to `x264_encoder_open_116'" is referring to line 404 in libx264.c?
[04:36] <FriGiN> so i can just put the .sh file on my usb
[04:36] <intrader> Anyone, elinks text terminal connects properly to network printer hosted by cups `sudo elinks http://<IP_ADDRESS>:631` on a mac. The elinks program is able to print a test page; administration gives 403 error. However, the 'Applications->System->Printing applet is not able to locate the printer and connect.
[04:36] <theadmin> jukebox-zero: Yes.
[04:37] <r3b00t> anyone?
[04:39] <urlin2u> FriGiN, yeah I forgot the deal put it on the computers desktop and run this   sudo bash ~/Desktop/boot_info_script.sh
[04:40] <urlin2u> FriGiN, here is the actual site if needed.  http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[04:40] <jukebox-zero> theadmin: thanks. based on google, man pages, etc I know I'm looking for most likely an unresolved symbol, but this is all kind of new territory to me. This is line 404: " x4->enc = x264_encoder_open(&x4->params); " but I don't really know what I would need to check to see if it's actually bad. C is still a foreign language for me.
[04:41] <theadmin> jukebox-zero: Sorry, but same for me, I know Ruby, Perl, Python and C#, no C
[04:41] <FriGiN> urlin2u: about to past to pastebin
[04:42] <urlin2u> !yay | FriGiN
[04:42] <jukebox-zero> !paste | jukebox-zero
[04:45] <jukebox-zero> theadmin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/667912/ This is the specific 10 or so lines make doesn't like. I see 8 and 9 where it's throwing the error. Any guess what I can check for "if (!x4->enc)"?
[04:46] <jukebox-zero> theadmin: I've never learned any languages and just curious if it bears any familiarity to you at all.
[04:47] <theadmin> jukebox-zero: Well... I can't tell anything from this
[04:47] <jukebox-zero> theadmin: well, no worries. I'll keep googling a while.
[04:49] <intrader> Anyone, elinks text terminal connects properly to network printer hosted by cups `sudo elinks http://<IP_ADDRESS>:631` on a mac. The elinks program is able to print a test page; administration gives 403 error. However, the 'Applications->System->Printing applet is not able to locate the printer and connect. I have found nothing helpful in Google.
[04:49] <blomp> how do i get the two finger scroll working on ubuntu 11.04?
[04:49] <mASOUD_42> escott, there's no .Xauthority in my home directory :(
[04:50] <rickjaruiz> anyone wanna help a noob from windows?
[04:50] <escott> mASOUD_42, what is echo $XAUTHORITY say
[04:50] <SIFTU> mASOUD_42: I dont think that one is so important as it's running as your user
[04:51] <FloatingGoat> Is there a channel for ubuntu sound production?
[04:51] <blomp> how do i get the two finger scroll working on ubuntu 11.04?
[04:51] <mASOUD_42> escott, SIFTU it say "/var/run/gdm/auth-for-masoud-pipvLh/database"
[04:52] <jukebox-zero> my best guess is it's not finding libx264-dev but it's installed so this is just ... odd.
[04:52] <escott> mASOUD_42, thats annoying. that location will change with each gdm login. you could create a script that on login copies that file to .Xauthority or symlinks as needed
[04:53] <mASOUD_42> escott, you mean create a cron job that runs on every boot?
[04:55] <SIFTU> mASOUD_42: I would start with "export DISPLAY=:0" in yur script and using full paths when calling your script
[04:55] <escott> mASOUD_42, no a script that you would add to your gnome-session to make it so your cron session can find the xauth files it needs
[04:55] <SIFTU> I didnt think cron processed .bashrc and I'm not sure where ~/bin is added to the $PATH
[04:56] <escott> SIFTU, he needs the authority file too. the display is not enough
[04:56] <SIFTU> escott: even as his own user?
[04:56] <escott> SIFTU, absolutely
[04:57] <greg3000> hiya friends, I just upgraded my ubuntu box to the latest distro and now the thing just reboots after passing the grub menu.  Anyone else experiencing this?
[04:58] <escott> SIFTU, or maybe not, but i would think so
[04:58] <urlin2u> greg3000, maverick to natty upgrade?
[04:58] <SIFTU> escott: ok, but man xauth doesn suggest that
[04:58] <theadmin> greg3000: Upgrading Ubuntu breaks a lot and is somewhat dangerous. I suggest backing your /home up and reinstalling altogether.
[04:58] <greg3000> urlin2u: yes, natty, it gave me the new 2.6.38-10 kernel
[05:00] <greg3000> theadmin: gosh, never knew that.  at one point I was able to get into repair, but having trouble getting to that point tonight.  can I not run some commands to rebuild the initrd or something?  I guess I am not the only one who experienced this
[05:00] <urlin2u> greg3000, boot a ubuntu cd, and run the all the commands together in a terminal and paste bin the RESULTS.txt that will be in home. http://paste.ubuntu.com/667640/
[05:00] <theadmin> greg3000: Hm, I'm not sure how to rebuild initrd on Ubuntu. Try "mkinitcpio", though can't guarantee anything there
[05:00] <greg3000> urlin2u: ok I will check it out
[05:00] <greg3000> theadmin: ok thanks for the suggestion
[05:01] <urlin2u> greg3000, theadmin may be correct did you get a clean upgrade?
[05:03] <greg3000> urlin2u: this was a minimal 10.10 install running only command line, and so I upgraded from the command line.  Everything seemed to work fine, just after rebooting the screen goes off shortly after it passes the grub menu
[05:03] <greg3000> then it reboots
[05:03] <blomp> how do i get my touchpad tab to show back up in mouse preferences?
[05:04] <escott> SIFTU, i think if the Xauthority is in a non-standard place then you need to specify where it is. since mine is in ~/.Xauthority i don't seem to need to do the export provided $HOME is set correctly
[05:04] <urlin2u> greg3000, okay you might just follow this guide, 3 methods here a load from a Natty only cd or use the third chroot if another ubuntu cd. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Copy%20LiveCD%20Files
[05:05] <greg3000> urlin2u: ok thanks again
[05:05] <urlin2u> greg3000, if your running headless you could follow this I assume. ;-)
[05:06] <greg3000> urlin2u: aye it's a headless box
[05:06] <urlin2u> greg3000, grub2 is the link I assume here as well.
[05:06] <SIFTU> mASOUD_42: my try worked
[05:07] <greg3000> urlin2u: I think it is grub2, gonna go start hacking away.  thanks - will report back
[05:07] <SIFTU> escott: trying it with .Xauth moved
[05:07] <SIFTU> date
[05:07] <urlin2u> greg3000, cool if you had a upgrade that needs restarting there are a couple of commands  as well.
[05:08] <urlin2u> finishing actually*
[05:10] <SIFTU> escott: yep.. you are right.. ~/.Xauthority has to exist then you dont need to export
[05:11] <Guest44352> hello all
[05:11] <escott> SIFTU, thats funny... im on 11.10 and having the exact opposite. mine is promiscous as the enable xhost, but put the xauth back in the right place
[05:12] <escott> SIFTU, it took me so long to figure out how to deal with gdm putting the xauth file in /var and now im using lightdm and the server just doesnt care
[05:12] <mASOUD_42> SIFTU, escott , i changed the script to this http://paste.ubuntu.com/667922/        also i changed the cron tab to absolute path but it didn't work
[05:12] <harry_> whats the diffrence between 'su' command and 'sudo su -' command ???
[05:12] <SIFTU> escott: I'm using openbox.. and I cant open anything if I move ~/Xauthority
[05:13] <theadmin> harry_: You shouldn't use either of those.
[05:13] <theadmin> harry_: You should use "sudo -i"
[05:13] <TheUros> hi, i have a question ... i hava an old asus eee 900 netbook wich has 4gb + 8gb ssd ... how i can partition this two drives for ubuntu ? .. can i put entire installation on 4gb and leave 8gb for home ?? ...
[05:13] <escott> mASOUD_42, the problem you will have is that pipvLH will change every time you login. so you either have to find it each time (you know it will start the same) or force gdm to put the Xauthority in ~/.Xauthority or use xhost to enable host based authentication (less secure)
[05:14] <ActionParsnip> harry_: su is for switch user, default is to root which is disabled, sudo su   wil get you a root shell but use: sudo -i   instead
[05:14] <harry_> theadmin: but when my application runs it ask for the root password and when i supply the root password my application runs under the root privilages and at that time i am not able to assess the "env | grep GDM_LANG" variable.
[05:15] <SIFTU> mASOUD_42: this worked for me but I have a ~/.Xauthority
[05:15] <SIFTU> mASOUD_42: http://pastebin.com/pRHhxrRB
[05:15] <statim> anyone familiar with pbuilder know how to clean up the environment.  i built something in it, but now there are a bunch of .deb files in the pbuilder area
[05:15] <ActionParsnip> harry_: run the app with sudo and use your own password
[05:15] <harry_> but when i do 'su' command i can asssess the "env | grep GDM_LANG" but when i do 'sudo su -' i am not able to assess it.
[05:16] <harry_> ActionParsnip:its a GUI application launch on Double click.
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> harry_: you can launch gui apps with gksudo
[05:16] <theadmin> !gksu | harry_
[05:16] <harry_> i am usng installerjammer which has no such fasility for it.
[05:17] <escott> harry_, launching gui apps from su can break your gui config for non-root users
[05:17] <ActionParsnip> harry_: fnie, but your OS does
[05:17] <ActionParsnip> *fine
[05:18] <harry_> ActionParsnip:but in iNstallljammer there is a build in command for it and i am not able to chnage is sadly.
[05:18] <mASOUD_42> escott, SIFTU , well how can i force the gdm to make the .Xauthority?
[05:18] <ActionParsnip> harry_: you are missing the point
[05:19] <SIFTU> mASOUD_42: not sure on that.. I dont use gdm
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> harry_: the command apt-get doesn't "have the facility" just the same, but if you prefix it with sudo it run, it gives the access
[05:19] <yetone> 测试
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> harry_: so you need to make a launcher to run:  gksudo command
[05:20] <SIFTU> mASOUD_42: probably in you r gdm.conf
[05:20] <rww> !cn | yetone
[05:20] <escott> mASOUD_42, no idea
[05:20] <afschuld> Hi bitches
[05:21] <harry_> No i am not missing the point but the problem is i just want to understand the basic thing that what happen if i launch my application when it ask for the root password does it use the command 'su' or 'sudo su -'???just the technical clarification i need
[05:21] <SIFTU> mASOUD_42: UserAuthDir=
[05:21] <rww> !guidelines | afschuld
[05:21] <ActionParsnip> harry_: this will make it run with elevated priveledges, it is moot what the command is so saying install jammer doesn't have the facility is nonesense. There are tools in Ubuntu to give it the access it needs. Hell you can even run web browsers with te extra access and they don't have the facility either
[05:21] <SIFTU> mASOUD_42: The directory where user's .Xauthority file should be saved. When nothing is specfied the user's home directory is used.
[05:21] <ActionParsnip> harry_: there is no root password in Ubuntu
[05:21] <niche> Hey guys, still trying to resolve a problem I've been having. I have two HDDs, one with Windows 7 and after installing 11.04 Ubuntu on my other HDD I am no longer able to boot the Windows 7 HDD if my Ubuntu HDD is disconnected or if the priority of my W7 HDD is first. I get stuck at "grub>" every time. Can anyone help?
[05:22] <SIFTU> niche: sounds like you blew away the bootloader for windows
[05:22] <urlin2u> niche, were you able to get the sdb drive changed in the bios to be read first?
[05:22] <niche> SIFTU, any way to fix that without formatting Windows?
[05:23] <ActionParsnip> harry_: as a user which is what you are, when you launch any app without sudo etc, it runs as your user. That's all
[05:23] <harry_> ActionParsnip:so when i launch my applicationa and it ask for the root password what happnes at time??
[05:23] <SIFTU> niche: PM
[05:23] <niche> urlin2u, yes I was and can boot Ubuntu without a problem as long as it is first priority. However, I do not always have this hard drive connected and it poses a big issue if I can't boot W7 without using the grub loader on the Ubuntu HDD
[05:23] <escott> niche, you installed grub to the w7 mbr, put it on the other drives mbr, then you can restore the w7 bootloader if you want
[05:24] <urlin2u> SIFTU, easy fix just needs sdb first read and grub loaded to the mbr of sdb
[05:24] <ActionParsnip> harry_: there is no root password so it will fail. The app is running as user. If you prefix the command with gksudo then it will already be running as root and you wil not be challenged
[05:24] <SIFTU> urlin2u: even when he pulls the linux disk?
[05:25] <urlin2u> niche, so when yo boot ubuntu did you run sudo update-grub
[05:25] <urlin2u> SIFTU, not sure
[05:25] <gurifisu> i plugged in my nikon with a cf card instead, and it appeared on the desktop, but i am unable to write anything onto it (eg. paste)
[05:25] <niche> urlin2u, yes... I have tried all the tricks to restore the W7 boot
[05:25] <SIFTU> urlin2u: I dont think he wants grub on his win 7 disk.. its a seperate disk
[05:25] <sgo11> ricky26, hi, are you there? yesterday, I asked the question regarding low screen resolution problem. now, I found the cause.
[05:25] <mASOUD_42> SIFTU, where is the gdm.conf ?
[05:25] <urlin2u> SIFTU, I'm not suggesting that.
[05:26] <urlin2u> SIFTU, sda is windows sdb is linux
[05:27] <Susie> 0.0
[05:27] <urlin2u> niche, run this whole wget from the ubuntu terminal and pastebin the RESULTS/text that will be in home.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/667640/
[05:27] <SIFTU> urlin2u: yeah but when he pulls his linux disk out.. he wants to boot off his windows disk
[05:27] <urlin2u> SIFTU, I will get the MS bootloader in the sda it is one command
[05:28] <ricky26> sgo11: What was it?
[05:28] <SIFTU> urlin2u: yes. restore the win mbr
[05:28] <urlin2u> SIFTU, or you can its cool. ;-)
[05:28] <SIFTU> urlin2u: go for it.. dd bs=512 count=1? I dont have a win mbr
[05:28] <urlin2u> SIFTU, I'm just concerned all the bootfiles are there the script will tell us.
[05:29] <SIFTU> mASOUD_42: try in /etc/gdm or something
[05:29] <anderson> hi
[05:29] <urlin2u> niche, can you run that wget and get the script posted?
[05:29] <anderson> can some one help me ?
[05:29] <niche> running now
[05:29] <sgo11> ricky26, it's just because of the VGA cable. I never knew VGA cables have different versions. one is 3+6 VGA cable. one is 3+4 VGA cable. 3+6 VGA cable supports 1080p. 3+4 VGA cable only supports 1024x768. After changing the VGA cable, the problem is solved.
[05:30] <ricky26> sgo11: I never knew that. XD
[05:30] <urlin2u> niche, cool you have a windows install disc, or a recovery disc?
[05:30] <sgo11> ricky26, :) I never knew this either. very weird.
[05:30] <niche> urlin2u, yes but God only know where it is at. I've moved twice since installing :(
[05:31] <urlin2u> niche, you will need it or we can put lilo there from a ubuntu disc.
[05:31] <anderson> hi
[05:31] <anderson> i need help please
[05:31] <SIFTU> anderson: just ask
[05:31] <anderson> can some one help me ?
[05:31] <anderson> ok
[05:31] <urlin2u> anderson, ask away man.;-)
[05:32] <niche> urlin2u, http://www.mediafire.com/?q3a6a6re94bxm9v
[05:32] <anderson> i have ubuntu 11 vps
[05:32] <anderson> i need uinstal gui on it
[05:32] <niche> lilo?
[05:32] <anderson> i need very light gui
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> anderson: sudo apt-get install lxde     will give a light ui
[05:32] <anderson> i need lighter than lxde
[05:33] <SIFTU> anderson: twm :)
[05:33] <niche> Ah, just wikipedia'ed lilo... this will work for a Windows disk?
[05:33] <popey> anderson: fvwm
[05:33] <anderson> open box or something lik that
[05:33] <anderson> can u give me all the command
[05:33] <anderson> ?
[05:33] <SIFTU> anderson: then do openbox
[05:33] <BILLYKANE> icewm and fluxbox
[05:33] <anderson> can u give me the command  ?
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> anderson: then change lxde for openbox or whatever you want, same command
[05:34] <popey> anderson: sudo apt-get install fvwm
[05:34] <EightySix> hi all. i'm trying to setup a home server using apache2 + dyndns. I'm not sure if my website is up. http://jumpingcrabs.dyndns.info/
[05:34] <blomp> what does it mean my touchpad tab doesnt come up in mouse options?
[05:34] <EightySix> What text do you see?
[05:34] <popey> EightySix: sparta
[05:34] <EightySix> thanks :D
[05:34] <anderson> but u going to help me on setup vncserver + config the xtratup ?
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> anderson: why not just skip the gui and use cli
[05:34] <urlin2u> niche, here it is for everybody to see, hold on http://paste.ubuntu.com/667936/
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> !vnc | anderson
[05:34] <TheUros> anyone....
[05:35] <anderson> yes i need vnc to connect to my vps graphical interface
[05:35] <SIFTU> anderson: have you ever run openbox before?
[05:35] <anderson> no
[05:36] <blomp> what does it mean my touchpad tab doesnt come up in mouse options?
[05:36] <SIFTU> anderson: it's a little more than 1 command
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> anderson: that guide wil show how to do it more securely. VNC has zero encryption
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> anderson: why not configure just with an SSH terminal?
[05:36] <anderson> ok what is the commands ?
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> anderson: read the link!
[05:36] <anderson> wich link ?
[05:36] <urlin2u> niche, so you have a grub file in the windows partition we can manualy remove it from sdb2
[05:37] <anderson> i already connected to the vps via shh , and waiting to just get the commands
[05:37] <ActionParsnip> anderson: read what ubottu said.
[05:37] <urlin2u> niche, open that partition click on boot and remove anything named grub
[05:37] <mASOUD_42> EightySix, THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[05:37] <anderson> i already installed vnc + lxde + gnome on many servers
[05:37] <EightySix> mASOUD_42, Thanks.
[05:38] <urlin2u> niche sdb2 okay.
[05:38] <anderson> but now the things is change because i need something light
[05:38] <mASOUD_42> EightySix, np ;)
[05:38] <gskelling> does anybody have experience with the bumblebee hybrid graphics drivers for linux?
[05:38] <SIFTU> gskelling: yes
[05:38] <ActionParsnip> anderson: it makes them use more resources, take longer to boot and makes them less secure
[05:38] <niche> urlin2u, ok wait so how do I open that partition and delete anything named grub?
[05:38] <gskelling> ah, SIFTU
[05:38] <gskelling> I'm back =D
[05:38] <niche> urlin2u, I'm a noober
[05:38] <SIFTU> gskelling: bad experiences :) well it was working but performance wasnt any good
[05:39] <anderson> i really didnt understand
[05:39] <gskelling> bad experiences eh. hm
[05:39] <anderson> because u didnt understand what i want
[05:39] <SIFTU> anderson: openbox isnt much lighter than lxde.. as lxde uses openbox as it;s WM
[05:39] <gskelling> for my laptop, people have found ways to disable both the intel one and the nvidia one, I can't decide which route I should go
[05:39] <urlin2u> niche, no problem if your in Ubunrtu go to home and look in the side left panel for partitions I can give you a screen shot of what it looks like if wanted.
[05:39] <anderson> ok
[05:39] <anderson> so i install lxde its better than open box ?
[05:39] <blomp> what does it mean my touchpad tab doesnt come up in mouse options?
[05:39] <SIFTU> gskelling: ok you can disable the intel one? do that
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> anderson: its a nicer experience but you can run just openbox
[05:40] <don-i> so this is a non ubuntu q, but i think you guys might know. Can any router be used as an AP ?
[05:40] <niche> urlin2u, Gotcha. Now how do I find anything named Grub on this large 1TB HDD? lol
[05:40] <don-i> or "repeater"
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> anderson: like I said, it doesn't do the server any favours using a gui
[05:40] <SIFTU> anderson: well not exactly.. but the DE in LXDE isnt that much heavier than plain openbox
[05:40] <gskelling> SIFTU, I get much better battery life with just the intel one though
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> don-i: I'd ask in ##networking
[05:40] <SIFTU> gskelling: yeah.. do you game?
[05:40] <don-i> ActionParsnip, thanks :)
[05:41] <urlin2u> niche, the boot file look here. http://imagebin.org/168271
[05:41] <gskelling> SIFTU, a little, not much
[05:41] <anderson> i need to get connected to my vps via vnc and for do that i need graphical inteface to open browser , open programs etc ..
[05:41] <harry_> Ok guys thanks for the information...
[05:41] <harry_> :)
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> anderson: but it's a server, what programs do you need?
[05:41] <SIFTU> gskelling: well the intel one is fine if you dont.. and with kernel 3.0 is actually pretty good (2000fps in glxgears)
[05:41] <anderson> browser like chromium etc ..
[05:42] <niche> urlin2u, OK, deleted the Grub folder out of boot, woot. Now is this like a Mac where I have to empty the trash bin? lol
[05:42] <ActionParsnip> anderson: then its not a server, its a desktop system
[05:42] <urlin2u> niche, look on that main page and the boot file for anything grub.
[05:42] <gskelling> SIFTU, also disabling the intel graphics card requires me to turn my ASUS laptops SATA mode to "compatible" instead of "Enhanced" which I'm afraid would mess up the performance of my SSD
[05:42] <sorcerer> ?
[05:42] <anderson> yes i need install desktop on vps
[05:42] <ActionParsnip> anderson: why would you want to vnc to a system to run a browser exactly?
[05:42] <SIFTU> gskelling: you are lucky you have the option.. I'm stuck
[05:42] <gskelling> SIFTU, what laptop?
[05:43] <anderson> just to browse and use the vps as desktop as i use my computer desktop
[05:43] <niche> urlin2u, there was only 1 item inside of the boot folder. It was a folder called Grub and I deleted it. Is there anything else I need to hunt down and delete? I don't know what you mean by main page
[05:43] <SIFTU> gskelling: dell XPS 15 l502x
[05:43] <gskelling> I worked on one of those today! =P
[05:43] <SIFTU> lol
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> anderson: the guide ubottu gave shows how you can use an SSH tunnel to secure vnc
[05:43] <gskelling> big huge honkin' things, but they are powerful
[05:43] <anderson> what is the lighter browser on ubuntu
[05:43] <anderson> i think dinno ?
[05:44] <SIFTU> gskelling: yeah has the i7 quad
[05:44] <gskelling> is it hard to get the 3.0 kernel working well on ubuntu 11.04?
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> anderson: arora is light, or lynx
[05:45] <gskelling> maybe I'll try the intel one with that first, I really don't want to reduce the performance of my ssd
[05:45] <anderson> arora ?
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> gskelling: shouldn't be too hard but you won't be supported here as it;s a 3rd party kernel
[05:45] <SIFTU> gskelling: you could get it from a PPA or manually compile it
[05:45] <urlin2u> niche, no run the script again so we can see that the grub.image is gone, be sure to tab my nic to. ;-)
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> anderson: yes?
[05:45] <anderson> i realy didnt understand your last reply
[05:46] <niche> tab your nic to? Elaboration?
[05:46] <SIFTU> niche: means autocomplete.. start typing a nic and press tab
[05:46] <urlin2u> niche, and paste here. http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[05:46] <niche> lol
[05:46] <niche> I'm such an idiot
[05:48] <niche> urlin2u, http://paste.ubuntu.com/667946/
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> anderson: arora is  alight browser, you asked for the name of a browser, so I gave arora as a suggestion.
[05:49] <anderson> arora is lighter than dinno ?
[05:50] <ActionParsnip> anderson: its a light browser, much lighter than firefox and such
[05:50] <SIFTU> anderson: define lighter
[05:50] <ActionParsnip> anderson: there is also swiftfox and iceweasel
[05:50] <urlin2u> niche, good job it is gone, now I would prefer putting the MS boot in the mbr, but lilo (another bootloader) works for booting windows
[05:51] <urlin2u> niche, can you find that MS disc, or you want lilo?