[07:45] <nbest>  well i will try to follow their instructions exactly.  Could anyone tell me where to find the source list file so i can start?
[07:45] <quiescens> carl-eric: so apt-get reinstall (linux-image-(version)) ; update-grub ; and grub-install /dev/sda (or /dev/hda or whichever)
[07:45] <ThinkT510> nbest: you just posted where it is
[07:46] <Hittwice> hello?
[07:46] <ThinkT510> nbest: "Then add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list file:"
[07:47] <nbest>  right, i thought that's what you meant, i was just getting that to ask.. but i dont' understand what that line means
[07:47] <carl-eric> quiescens, we're half-way there :-) It booted grub, asked for the luks password, and managed to mount sda10_crypt
[07:47] <kamidi> Hittwice: I'm sorry I can't help you :( I hope here are someone who can.
[07:47] <nbest>   oh wait i think i see
[07:47] <carl-eric> quiescens, now I'm at a busybox initramfs prompt though
[07:47] <nbest>  it's a directory structure
[07:47] <Hittwice> ....................
[07:47] <nbest>   duh lol
[07:47] <sunit>  how can I display command line (shell) output as a popup or a webpage
[07:47] <ThinkT510> nbest: you aren't familiar with the directory structure of linux?
[07:47] <Hittwice> What the.......
[07:47] <nbest>   nope, like 2nd day using linux here :P
[07:48] <Hittwice> any other channels that i can get help?
[07:48] <nbest>   i'll do my best to muddle through though :)
[07:48] <kamidi> Hittwice: And be patient ;-)
[07:48] <ThinkT510> nbest: wow, and you chose to install tor? bit ambiteous
[07:48] <nbest>   lol ikr
[07:49] <kamidi> Hittwice: I don't know. I suppose this is the channel. You can also try ##club-ubuntu, there seems to be very competent people :)
[07:49] <nbest>  but my windoz broke and i'm part of some tor communities that i just have to get back to :P
[07:49] <quiescens> carl-eric: okay, get back to your livecd for now
[07:49] <kyi> damn it jim
[07:50] <nirvikar> hello
[07:50] <kyi> n e one use ubuntu on a ppc?
[07:51] <theadmin> sunit: Weird question really, you can get it to a text file like this: command > file.txt
[07:51] <nirvikar> need help with myth tv and usb capture device
[07:51] <theadmin> sunit: There is no way for a command output to produce sensible HTML.
[07:51] <carl-eric> quiescens, ok, i'm there. mounting my / again
[07:51] <theadmin> sunit: Well, unless it's some very specific command.
[07:51] <quiescens> carl-eric: i would have gotten you to check the contents of your /boot and / for me before you rebooted really
[07:51] <carl-eric> quiescens, duh. my bad, sorry.
[07:51] <aldo3> @
[07:52] <aldo3> w4
[07:52] <carl-eric> quiescens, ok, I'm there
[07:52] <quiescens> carl-eric: so for your /boot, you should probably have a grub directory, plus files starting with: abi, initrd, vmlinuz
[07:52] <nirvikar> hey help with mythbuntu and usb capture device
[07:53] <theadmin> !repeat | nirvikar
[07:53] <sunit> theadmin: ok. But is there any option to dispaly the shell output as a popup ?
[07:53] <theadmin> sunit: Hm... Let me see
[07:53] <theadmin> sunit: command | xmessage -file -
[07:54] <nirvikar> thx guys
[07:54] <carl-eric> quiescens, I have abi, config-, initrd.img-, System.map-, vmcoreinfo-, vmlinuz-, all ending with <IP_ADDRESS>-generic
[07:54] <nirvikar> searching at the same time
[07:54] <quiescens> carl-eric: grub directory?
[07:54] <carl-eric> quiescens, and grub/ containing quite a lot
[07:54] <quiescens> carl-eric: okay
[07:54] <nirvikar> so no way to im me here i will have to wait and watch the screen?
[07:55] <ThinkT510> nirvikar: it should highlight you if your nick is spoken
[07:55] <quiescens> carl-eric: grub.cfg in the grub directory?
[07:55] <kyi> look at the mythtv docs. it's beens a while since I used mythtv but chances are some else has encountered your problem b4
[07:55] <sergei_> hello guys, is there a bundle for popular firefox plugins ?
[07:55] <Noor_egy> hello i'm using usb mudem Huawei k3770 and my ubuntu11.04 dont see it and cant conect to internet , could anyone help me
[07:56] <sunit> theadmin: thanks
[07:56] <carl-eric> quiescens, yes
[07:56] <theadmin> sergei_: Nope
[07:56] <kyi> can you capture n e thing with that usb device?
[07:56] <quiescens> carl-eric: do a (sudo) blkid
[07:56] <quiescens> carl-eric: keep track of which is your /
[07:56] <nirvikar> thx
[07:57] <Noor_egy> hello i'm using usb mudem Huawei k3770 and my ubuntu11.04 dont see it and cant conect to internet , could anyone help me
[07:57] <kyi> suce as 'cat  video? > test.mpg'
[07:57] <carl-eric> quiescens, got it - it's /dev/mapper/udisks-luks-<some-uuid>: UUID=<other!-uuid>
[07:58] <Viking667> really weird question...
[07:58] <Viking667> How would I go about reinstalling all (yes, that means ALL) my installed packages?
[07:58] <irreverant> So as an old man I have a question, is it true that apple computers running a ssd boot up after 20 and 30 seconds? much faster supposedly than a ubuntu is this true?
[07:58] <quiescens> carl-eric: now have a look at your grub.cfg and make sure that the UUID for your / is listed for the search (stuff) --set=root lines
[07:58] <Viking667> I seem to have some damage here.
[07:59] <Viking667> nothing's coming up as broken, but quite a few packages were showing a LOT of files not there...
[07:59] <Viking667> i.e. mplayer ended up with just the /etc files...
[07:59] <theadmin> Viking667: apt-get --reinstall install $(dpkg -l)
[07:59] <Viking667> yet when I reinstalled mplayer, they all come back.
[07:59] <Noor_egy> hello i'm using usb mudem Huawei k3770 and my ubuntu11.04 dont see it and cant conect to internet , could anyone help me
[07:59] <Viking667> theadmin: hm. Is that going to take out my existing running programs?
[08:00] <irreverant> than a ubuntu or windows computer, basically the argument is that it's a better setup than any nix setup or windows setup anyone could have? can anyone comment on this?
[08:00] <Viking667> theadmin: and incidentally, dpkg -l  dumps status on ALL packages
[08:00] <carl-eric> quiescens, it appears that the UUID in the search line is the one for my /boot!
[08:00] <ThinkT510> irreverant: that isn't reallt a support question; perhaps you can ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:00] <kyi> dude ssd just read faster, plust that sounds like a troll ??
[08:01] <quiescens> carl-eric: the search lines that have --set=root should have the uuid for your /
[08:01] <theadmin> Viking667: Oh yes
[08:01] <Hittwice> UNITY SUCKS!
[08:01] <quiescens> carl-eric: annd, i have to get going, sorry, best of luck ):
[08:01] <carl-eric> quiescens, can I just edit that file?
[08:01] <theadmin> Viking667: This should work better: apt-get --reinstall install $(dpkg --get-selections)
[08:01] <carl-eric> quiescens, thanks a lot!
[08:01] <Viking667> yuh. Thought something looked fishy
[08:01] <theadmin> Viking667: I suggest you do this from single-user (recovery) mode
[08:01] <ThinkT510> Hittwice: feel free to use an alternative desktop environment
[08:01] <quiescens> carl-eric: you can probably just edit it for now
[08:01] <irreverant> well sort of it is; only because i'm trying to identify it it is true; how could i optimize my nix to load faster.
[08:02] <quiescens> carl-eric: when you get your system running properly, you'll want to make sure that update-grub keeps the correct uuid
[08:02] <ThinkT510> irreverant: are you running ubuntu?
[08:02] <quiescens> carl-eric: in all likelihood, update-grub is getting it wrong because you're booting from a livecd
[08:02] <Viking667> theadmin: yeah. and the output from dpkg looks like:  packagename    install     or  packagename  deinstall
[08:02] <Hittwice> and it doesnt work cause unity kicked em!
[08:02] <Hittwice> like Gnome
[08:02] <Viking667> does apt have the capability to tell the difference?
[08:02] <irreverant> Yes i'm running ubuntu.
[08:02] <theadmin> Viking667: Did you try it with --get-selections?
[08:03] <Viking667> that's what gave me that output
[08:03] <irreverant> ThinkT510
[08:03] <Viking667> i.e. sample line:    ant-optional-gcj                                deinstall
[08:03] <theadmin> Viking667: Oh... Damn, I really am not familiar with dpkg. Here's how I'd do it on my system: pacman -S $(pacman -Q)
[08:03] <sunit> theadmin:only pop up window is generated. How can I display the shell output in that pop up ?
[08:03] <Viking667> theadmin: ugh.
[08:03] <theadmin> Viking667: But that ain't gonna be helpful
[08:04] <Viking667> no. I don't think I've ever seen pacman outside of whatever distro that appears on.
[08:04] <Viking667> Slackware?
[08:04] <ThinkT510> irreverant: you could run your own benchmarks to see if one runs faster than the other
[08:04] <carl-eric> quiescens, ok, I think I'll find my way from here. Thanks a lot!!
[08:04] <mrmist> .
[08:05] <ThinkT510> Viking667: pacman is on archlinux
[08:05] <theadmin> Viking667: Arch
[08:05] <Viking667> ahhh. Knew I'd seen it, knew I'd never used it.
[08:07] <theadmin> Anyone, how to list ALL installed packages?
[08:07] <theadmin> Come on, it can't be hard
[08:07] <ThinkT510> !clone | theadmin
[08:07] <Viking667> theadmin: the line you gave was pretty close, but I'd need to filter some stuff out.
[08:07] <Viking667> !automate
[08:08] <theadmin> Viking667: There, use that, just without the "!?automatic" bit
[08:08] <Viking667> why not the automatic?
[08:08] <theadmin> Viking667: I think ! means "not"
[08:08] <theadmin> Viking667: Not sure tho
[08:08] <Viking667> theadmin: and, what the heck are you doing in #Ubuntu if you don't use it?

[08:08] <theadmin> Viking667: I'm bored
[08:09] <Viking667> sigh.
[08:10] <ThinkT510> Viking667: you can still answer support questions if you are using different distros (knowledge can pass over, just need to be aware of the differences)
[08:10] <Viking667> mrm.
[08:11] <NoReflex> hello! I borked the permissions on my system. I was able to get most of them fixed but there are a few things that don't work. For example in xsession-errors I have (gnome-settings-daemon:2434): WARNING **: Connection failed, reconnecting; the shutdown / restart buttons won't work. If I click on them it just logs out. I'm using Lucid
[08:12] <NoReflex> apart from that it seems to work fine
[08:13] <theadmin> NoReflex: Related to dbus no doubt
[08:13] <theadmin> NoReflex: Can't help more than that
[08:13] <NoReflex> I could try an upgrade to the new version - but I don't know if that will fix permissions or just hang on installing
[08:14] <theadmin> NoReflex: You should try reinstalling packages related to your problem.
[08:14] <Viking667> gawd. mention three letters, and I've inadvertedly started world war four...
[08:14] <Viking667> s/world/distro
[08:14] <wmcinnis> anyone have problems after they install the nvidia drivers then do the plymouth fix that the nivida drivers dont work anymore
[08:15] <vuth> is there a difference between using the terminal and update manager to update ur system?
[08:15] <vuth> like in terminal using the sudo --apt update etc. commands
[08:15] <ThinkT510> vuth: the end result would be the same
[08:16] <iceroot> vuth: yes but normally you dont see the difference
[08:16] <KrisDouglas> vuth, there are some subtle differences on how updates are handled, but for everyday use they are both the same
[08:16] <iceroot> vuth: both are using dpkg
[08:16] <iceroot> vuth: but they handle dependencies and the solution of conflicts different
[08:16] <vuth> okay but i just notice most of u guys use the commands in terminal
[08:17] <KrisDouglas> vuth, It can be faster or just a preferred choice some times. Easier to explain to a new user as well, I think.
[08:17] <ThinkT510> vuth: it is quicker than describing what to click
[08:17] <vuth> lol
[08:17] <vuth> thnx again
[08:20] <sundar_> hi all
[08:20] <stephenh> hi, is there a way to make logrotate and syslog-ng play nicely?  this is the output i'm getting daily: http://goo.gl/3wpVo
[08:21] <vuth> anyone have a windows phone?
[08:21] <sundar_> i am not sure if i am on the right channel to ask this question. I am on an embedded arm board running linux. I would like to open a virtual console on ctrl+alt+f1. any idea how i can achieve this?
[08:22] <ThinkT510> sundar_: what linux are you running?
[08:22] <GSF1200S_> stephenh, thats strange- im running Arch and using both syslog-ng and logrotate without issues
[08:22] <sundar_> its a custom compiled kernel with a filesystem from the vendor
[08:22] <stephenh> GSF1200S_: there's a few people posting about it but couldn't see a fix
[08:23] <stephenh> only happening on our lucid servers
[08:23] <sundar_> ThinkT510: ^above
[08:23] <ThinkT510> sundar_: then we can't help you, maybe there is an arm-linux channel
[08:23] <sundar_> ThinkT510: Thanks I'll check out the right channel then
[08:24] <ThinkT510> !arm | sundar_
[08:24] <stephenh> mm :\
[08:24] <Boots> so does anyone know how to get itunes working?
[08:25] <sundar_> ThinkT510: Ok I'll check out at ubuntu-arm then :)
[08:25] <sunit> theadmin: what shall i do ?
[08:25] <ThinkT510> Boots: maybe you could ask in #winehq
[08:25] <GSF1200S_> Boots: use virtualbox with a windows client and itunes- it doesnt work under wine and apple doesnt care if linux users can access there stuff
[08:25] <ThinkT510> !appdb | Boots
[08:26] <GSF1200S_> stephenh, odd.. I dont have a lucid setup so I cant help you their- I have Arch and Natty (11.04)
[08:26] <GSF1200S_> there*
[08:26] <vuth> does anyone here sync their smartphone (android or windows) calendar, contacts, etc. over linux ?
[08:26] <Boots> thanks sorry i was checking it out
[08:26] <stephenh> bother.
[08:27] <jussi> vuth: I just use the google sync via gmail.
[08:27] <jussi> !anyone | vuth
[08:27] <stephenh> hoped someone had encountered it and fixed it :)
[08:28] <Boots> another question, im in a different chat room using firefox and when i go to post something it takes forever to show up in the chat. Whats wrong?
[08:29] <unfuquitable> hey
[08:29] <unfuquitable> so this is ubuntu, not linux mint?
[08:29] <ThinkT510> thats right
[08:29] <iceroot> unfuquitable: korrekt
[08:30] <Viking667> sigh
[08:30] <stephenh> idd.
[08:30] <iceroot> !mint | unfuquitable
[08:30] <unfuquitable> well guess i have both installed...
[08:30] <unfuquitable> i know. just checking my installations, sorry
[08:31] <vuth> jussi do u have an android phone?
[08:32] <jussi> vuth: yes
[08:32] <vuth> off topic but just cruiois
[08:32] <vuth> kewl thnx
[08:32] <luite> I saw some instruction about ndiswrapper to get the wireless running on a sandy bridge macbook pro. is that still the best way, or is there a native driver now?
[08:32] <jussi> vuth: you may want to join #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[08:32] <vuth> i shall
[08:32] <Viking667> faugh...
[08:38]  * ThinkT510 thinks he heard a pin drop
[08:38] <Viking667> OUCH!!! That was my TOE you dropped that on!
[08:38] <Viking667> Next time you drop a marble rolling pin, try it on your head.
[08:39] <anli_> Did I just join this channel?
[08:39] <ThinkT510> yes, you are here now
[08:39] <anli_> I did not ask if I am here now
[08:40] <ThinkT510> ok, you joined about 5 mins ago
[08:40] <anli_> hm, interesting
[08:40] <anli_> I hibernated my ubuntu over the night
[08:40] <anli_> nickserv however does not require me to authenticate now in the morning
[08:44] <nbest>  /join #tor
[08:45] <Viking667> nbest: no thanks.
[08:49] <bullgard4_> Banshee 2.0.0 > Track Editor > Sorting: What is the effect if I make an entry in the  "Sort Track Title:" field?
[08:59] <deni> hi guys....does anyone have a thinkpad and uses tp_smapi?
[09:00] <deni> i'm having trouble with it for some weird reason
[09:00] <ThinkT510> deni: i have a thinkpad but can't say i've used that
[09:02] <deni> ThinkT510: i try to set the start_charge_thresh and stop_charge_thresh and i echo one value in the file but when i cat it i get another value
[09:02] <deni> something very weird is going on
[09:02] <cliffton> any one availible to help a complete noob?
[09:03] <ThinkT510> cliffton: i'll give it a try
[09:03] <cliffton> I am on a netbook (eee pc 1005ha(b)
[09:03] <ThinkT510> deni: is that to do with the battery?
[09:03] <cliffton> and some windows and programs seem to trail off screen, i am currently at the highest resouloution
[09:04] <ThinkT510> cliffton: what is the resolution?
[09:04] <cliffton> they fit right on the horizontal plane but verticly some windows go below the screen
[09:04] <cliffton> 1200x600
[09:04] <cliffton> is what i have set at
[09:04] <ThinkT510> cliffton: ahh, that is problematic
[09:05] <cliffton> sorry 1024x600
[09:05] <ThinkT510> cliffton: which apps show below?
[09:05] <deni> ThinkT510: yes
[09:05] <llutz_> cliffton: some apps are simply just broken, they cannot handle low resolutions (evolution etc.pp)
[09:05] <cliffton> if i click view terminal on a dialog window it goes below screen, also i have tried a couple games out that go off screen
[09:05] <ThinkT510> deni: guessed as much, sorry, i keep mine plugged in all the time
[09:06] <ThinkT510> cliffton: like llutz_ said, it is the app designers fault
[09:06] <dheeraj> has issues with compiz in Ubuntu 11.04
[09:06] <dheeraj> can somebody help
[09:07] <ThinkT510> cliffton: they just aren't suited to small screens
[09:07] <cliffton> oh gotcha, any tips for optimization using a netbook? I am running xbuntu 10.4 so far i have every thing stock
[09:07] <decepticon> help! i cant uninstall vidalia :(
[09:07] <decepticon> in ubuntu 11.04
[09:08] <ThinkT510> !info vidalia
[09:08] <decepticon> !info vidalia
[09:08] <ThinkT510> decepticon: what happens when you sudo apt-get remove vidalia?
[09:08] <deni> ThinkT510: tnx, anyway
[09:09] <ThinkT510> deni: no worries :) (glad you came along, it was getting too quiet)
[09:09] <deni> i also keep mine plugged in all the time...that's why i'm trying to preserve the battery
[09:09] <deni> cause i don't wan't to plug it out all the time
[09:10] <nbest>  hi, how could i change a file that's supposed to be read only?
[09:10] <llutz_> deni: but THAT really would preserve the batter
[09:10] <llutz_> y
[09:10] <nbest>  it's the source list file
[09:10] <llutz_> nbest: use sudo/gksu
[09:10] <nbest>   i need to change it as per instalation instructions... k, thanks
[09:11] <ThinkT510> nbest: gksudo gedit /path/to/file
[09:11] <cliffton> hey thanks guys!!!
[09:11] <nbest>   oh i see,  :)
[09:11] <nbest>  i'll do that ty
[09:12] <dheeraj> configuring wall in compiz has messed up the system.. even can't get to terminal ..any help is appreciatd
[09:12] <bullgard4_> Banshee 2.0.0 > Track Editor > Sorting: What is the effect if I make an entry in the  "Sort Track Title:" field?
[09:12] <ThinkT510> nbest: be careful when editing anything with sudo
[09:12] <nbest>  i will think510, i understand that's like the administrator access
[09:13] <ThinkT510> nbest: you're doing good on your 2nd day
[09:13] <ThinkT510> nbest: keep it up :)
[09:14] <nbest>   lol, idk i was trying to figure that last question out since i asked u the previous one
[09:14] <bullgard4_> deni: Iam using two Thinkpads. I do not use tp_smapi. Another driver is fulfilling its functionality very well. In Ubuntu one does not need tp_smapi for all what I know.
[09:14] <nbest>  seems like at each step i need to ask
[09:15] <llutz_> !manual | nbest maybe reading this will help
[09:15] <nbest>   bookmarked llutz  :)
[09:16] <nbest>    i'm not going to read a whole manual before i try this but, yea i deff want to start learning
[09:16] <nbest>   i was going to look for tutoria on youtube maybe
[09:18] <llutz_> nbest: learning to use linux-systems means reading, reading, reading :)
[09:19] <ThinkT510> nbest: if you need to practice you could install in a vm and have some fun getting to grips with what does what
[09:20] <flexibeast> Hi all. Just installed Natty, applied all system updates, but can't get the ssh server to start; getting something similar the respawn-and-terminate issue described at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/openssh/+bug/687535
[09:20] <loxs> folks, I decided to try btrfs for my new installation of ubuntu. Now apt-get is something like 5 to 10 times slower. Wtf? Is this normal?
[09:20] <nbest>  llutz , yes reading is good i try to do as much as i can with my limited ADD :P
[09:21] <flexibeast> loxs: It wouldn't surprise me, given that, to the best of my knowledge, btrfs is still under heavy development.
[09:21] <ThinkT510> loxs: btrfs isn't stable yet
[09:21] <nbest>   ThinkT510  that's an interesting idea, kind of catch 22 though heheh cuz  i don't have a windows machine working now,.. so i'd need to set up a ubuntu vm in ubuntu
[09:22] <ThinkT510> nbest: it is easy enough to install virtualbox via the package manager
[09:22] <ThinkT510> nbest: from there on it is pretty self explainitory
[09:23] <lethalduck> We've been having a small issue with shutdown on our EeePC 1215b's (2 of them) running natty. The S/W appears to shutdown cleanly, but the hardware doesn't power off. http://paste.ubuntu.com/657025/
[09:23] <nbest>  oh, i didn't think it would be as easy as that, but if it is that's something worth trying i guess
[09:24] <ThinkT510> !package | nbest
[09:24] <OmegaForte> Great.
[09:25] <OmegaForte> X is no longer saving window positions. Anyone got insight on this?
[09:25] <nbest>  oh, i'll give that website a try then i couldn't find anything on the software centre
[09:25] <ThinkT510> nbest: i find it easier to use synaptic (i don't like the ubuntu software centre ui)
[09:25] <ThinkT510> !synaptic | nbest
[09:26] <OmegaForte> Oh you have got to be kidding me... Disreguard my previous question. Emerald incompatibility is causing it.
[09:26] <OmegaForte> ThinkT510, Hey man, random. Do you know if anyone is maintaining emerald until Jockey comes out?
[09:27] <vuth> anyone have higher driver for nvideo graphics card other than 270.41.06
[09:27] <nbest>  yea  i think i was in that one  system/administration/synaptic package manager
[09:27] <ThinkT510> OmegaForte: no idea sorry, i thought emerald has been dead for a while
[09:27] <nbest>   i tried both the software centre and that one
[09:27] <nbest>  but let me try the website
[09:27] <OmegaForte> ThinkT510, Any idea when Jockey will succeed it? I'm tired of patching bugs.
[09:28] <vuth> my screen resolution just doesnt look as good as i think it should on the big screen
[09:28] <OmegaForte> vuth, GPU/Screen please.
[09:28] <lethalduck> Any ideas?
[09:28] <vuth> tried to update the driver but it keeps saying Downloading/Installing for lon glong
[09:28] <ThinkT510> OmegaForte: until now i've never heard of jockey; so you'd probably know more than me
[09:28] <vuth> hang on omega
[09:28] <bullgard4_> lethalduck: This is a common error. Look it up in Launchpad.
[09:29] <vuth> 9600GT 1680x1050
[09:29] <OmegaForte> vuth, you trying for Xinerama?
[09:29] <lethalduck> bullgard4: ah
[09:29] <vuth> xinerama = 2 same display?
[09:30] <OmegaForte> vuth, No, Xinerama is two displays that act physically like one.
[09:30] <vuth> well right now i just have vga to my 42 inch
[09:30] <vuth> so no 2 displays
[09:31] <Da^Ms7> Experience, lcdproc Vs. LCD4linux? What should I choose?
[09:31] <vuth> like when i had vista everything just look crsp and sharper
[09:31] <vuth> so is there a way for me to find out what latest driver for my video card is that is compatiable for linux
[09:31] <OmegaForte> vuth, Okay. that's because Microslaw's filtering isn't in place. I know of no way to emulate it; as I use monitors.
[09:32] <Diavolettoxte> ciao a tutti
[09:32] <ThinkT510> !it | Diavolettoxte
[09:32] <vuth> ohhh i see
[09:33] <vuth> np...not big problem just thought maybe i couldnt install the latest geforce video drivers
[09:33] <OmegaForte> vuth, But if you use emerald...Or are willing to compile emerald, I guess I'm the only one maintaining it.
[09:33] <OmegaForte> vuth, We're using the latest. 240.41
[09:35] <vuth> im kind of a noob let me find out what emerald is
[09:35] <bullgard4_> Banshee 2.0.0 > Track Editor > Sorting: What is the effect if I make an entry in the  "Sort Track Title:" field?
[09:36] <OmegaForte> vuth, It's lime compiz, but a load prettier and easier to customize with little to no dependency on Metacity.
[09:36] <nbest> ThinkT510,  hmmm, having searched http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/ , every possible sub category, i can't find it on there so..... back to messing with the source list file for me :P
[09:36] <vuth> its a theme?
[09:36] <OmegaForte> vuth, No, it's a bit more of that.
[09:37] <OmegaForte> vuth, It's a themer.
[09:38] <vuth> do u have a website with direction for to install emerald..i might install it down the road
[09:39] <OmegaForte> vuth, Well it's abandoned. I think I'm the only one offering support for it. Jockey is coming soon.
[09:39] <vuth> lol
[09:39] <vuth> why abandoned
[09:39] <vuth> ohh
[09:39] <vuth> nevermind u answered it
[09:40] <Lasers> vuth: That's because TVs shouldn't be treated as monitors. On your 42" TV, the resolution is probably stretched a bit so it's not crispy. Good for movies, sure.
[09:41] <zykes-> wols_: you back ?
[09:43] <ThinkT510> nbest: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/virtualbox-ose-dkms
[09:44] <nbest>  oh, no i meant i couldn't find any tor packages on there
[09:44] <ThinkT510> nbest: and this one: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/virtualbox-ose
[09:45] <ThinkT510> nbest: oh, tor isn't available for lucid
[09:45] <nbest>  thanks, i'll make notes of those.   I think i'm gonna try on my real system though for now because, it's a fresh install, if worst comes to worst, i could just get it reinstalled
[09:45] <OmegaForte> nbest, What are you looking for? I missed some stuff.
[09:45] <nbest>   tor browswer bundle
[09:46] <OmegaForte> nbest, You got a source list? I could build it for you, if you want.
[09:46] <nbest>  ThinkT510 , just said it's not available for lucid?? arghh O.o
[09:46] <ThinkT510> OmegaForte: he is running lucid
[09:46] <OmegaForte> ThinkT510, Wow, Talk about way back to the past.
[09:46] <ThinkT510> !lucid
[09:46] <nbest>  umm source list? , like the source list file?
[09:46] <OmegaForte> nbest, Yeah.
[09:47] <nbest>  i should upgrade my version maybe?
[09:47] <nbest>  should i do that first?
[09:47] <TrevGamingRIg> Get paid via paypal or gift cards to watch videos, offers, surveys, submit emails ect. http://t.co/ivZVyhf , have any questions just ask me :)
[09:47] <OmegaForte> nbest, Yeah, because 11.04 isn't bad.
[09:47] <OmegaForte> Can we get a ban on this trevgaming adbot?
[09:47] <ThinkT510> nbest: what desktop environment do you use? gnome?
[09:47] <vuth> kewl TrevGamingrig
[09:47] <theadmin> !ops | trevgamingrig is spamming
[09:47] <nbest>  k, then perhaps i should do that, especially if it's not available on lucid
[09:48] <OmegaForte> vuth, It's an adbot. Don't mess with it.
[09:48] <nbest>  ThinkT510 , let me check , that should be on system ..
[09:48] <vuth> oh
[09:48] <vuth> thought he was just bragging
[09:48] <nbest>  yea gnome 2.30.2
[09:49] <ThinkT510> nbest: ok, 11.04 uses unity, if you don't like it you can switch to gnome again on 11.04
[09:49] <DeezeNuts> anyone else having a hard time getting gnome 3 working
[09:49] <ThinkT510> nbest: just thought i'd warn you
[09:49] <OmegaForte> DeezeNuts, While your name is inappropirate, I will help you.
[09:49] <nbest>  oh, thanks, i dont' think it will matter since i'm new to this one too
[09:49] <DeezeNuts> that's not my problem, I was just asking
[09:49] <ThinkT510> !gnome3 | DeezeNuts
[09:49] <madbomber_> i use ubuntu classic
[09:50] <DeezeNuts> reason i came here is because i made a live USB for natty
[09:50] <DeezeNuts> and its not installing
[09:50] <DeezeNuts> running a memtest atm
[09:50] <asdrad> Hey guy's! What's up?
[09:50] <OmegaForte> ThinkT510, If that guy still needs help, let me know when he changes his name.
[09:51] <DeezeNuts> Thanks for that info ThinkT510
[09:51] <ThinkT510> DeezeNuts: no worries, gnome 3 should be supported in the next release (11.10)
[09:53] <vuth> how long did it take to learn all the commands in terminal..do u know them off by hear
[09:53] <vuth> *heart
[09:53] <ThinkT510> !terminal | vuth
[09:54] <OmegaForte> God I wished grep worked in IRC.
[09:55] <theadmin> vuth: People know most commands by heart, yes.
[09:55] <theadmin> vuth: People like me, for instance, can't leave without the terminal.
[09:55] <theadmin> vuth: live*
[09:56] <vuth> can i mess up the os by typing in wrong commands...im getting differnt directions from differnet websites
[09:56] <ThinkT510> vuth: you need to know what you are doing, sudo is potentially dangerous
[09:58] <vuth> sh someFileYouWant.run  i never heard anyone use that one b4
[09:58] <vuth> sh command
[09:58] <ThinkT510> vuth: in a terminal type man sh
[09:59] <OmegaForte> ThinkT510, Ugh, that just gave me a flashback.
[09:59] <vuth> bingo
[10:00] <ThinkT510> vuth: man is your friend (press q to quit a manpage)
[10:00] <Angablade> Hey, I was wondering how I would go by running a copy of my favorate webbrowser; Internet Explorer; in Unubtu 11.04. Any Ideas?
[10:01] <ThinkT510> Angablade: run it in a windows vm
[10:01] <Duckfd> playonlinux have ie 6  for u
[10:01] <OmegaForte> You guys realize he was trolling right..
[10:01] <OmegaForte> IE is no one's favorite browser.
[10:02] <Duckfd> hehe
[10:02] <Angablade> Thanks for the information tho.
[10:02] <Duckfd> Fixed his problem even when he did troll
[10:02] <OmegaForte> Haha
[10:02] <Duckfd> =)
[10:03] <Angablade> Thank you guys for all the help. I promise not to do that again.  I dont even have ubuntu installed right now. For the longest time I did. Just formatted for windows 7 when it came out. Time to install it again I say. Dual boot from flash man..
[10:08] <lethalduck> bullgard4: Doesn't appear to be a definitive fix. The same symptoms have been ongoing for quite a few years, by the look of it.
[10:08] <sunit> theadmin: ok
[10:08] <bullgard4_> lethalduck: Are you sure that you mean me?
[10:09] <lethalduck> Yeah bullgard4_
[10:10] <Angablade> Well actually it would be ' || ' to pipe. But I guess that might with I think..
[10:10] <lethalduck> Adding "rmmod snd_hda_intel" to the end of /etc/default/halt works for some.
[10:10] <sunit> theadmin: can you give me an example
[10:10] <lethalduck> I tried it twice and so far so good.
[10:10] <ne2k> on upgrading from maverick to natty, my four serial port card has gone from ttyS[0-3] to ttyS[4-7], which is strange, as ttyS[0-3] are now non-existent. or at least, they don't seem to correspond to anything!
[10:11] <theadmin> sunit: ls | grep 'lol'
[10:11] <lethalduck> bullgard4_ re: the launchpad shutdown bug
[10:11] <theadmin> sunit: Would send the output of ls to grep, which would then search for "lol" in it.
[10:11] <ne2k> theadmin: more specifically, it will print out lines containing "lol"
[10:12] <Angablade> I inspace. Night Guys
[10:12] <theadmin> ne2k: I know.
[10:12] <sunit> theadmin: I am trying
[10:12] <theadmin> ne2k: I'm explaining the basic concept
[10:16] <giany> hello
[10:16] <giany> if I use apt-add-repository it adds two lines in the sources.list file ..one with deb and one with deb-src..what can I do to skip the deb-src line?
[10:16] <ne2k> theadmin: I don't think "it prints out lines containing 'lol'" is any more basic than "it searches for 'lol'", but it is more accurate, and it is more helpful
[10:17] <steveccc> why dont the latest updates to software reach older versions of ubuntu - ie why doesnt firefox 5 appear as an update in 10.04 - why do you have to add a mozilla repo and install from there
[10:17] <rdistorted> giany: comment out in sources.list
[10:17] <ThinkT510> !backports | steveccc
[10:17] <giany> rdistorted: i have some automate tools that install some apps..i cannot manually edit that line :)
[10:17] <ne2k> giany: do you mean how can you stop it being added in the first place, or how can you get rid of it later? why does it matter to you?
[10:18] <theadmin> ne2k: I'm showing how to use a pipe, not how to use grep.
[10:18] <giany> ne2k: stop being added in the first place
[10:18] <ne2k> giany: what exact command did you run, and what did it add?
[10:19] <giany> ne2k: add-apt-repository 'deb http://downloads-distro.mongodb.org/repo/ubuntu-upstart dist 10gen'
[10:19] <giany> it adds two lines
[10:19] <giany> and because of the deb-src when running apt-get update it fails
[10:19] <ne2k> giany: that's very odd, seeing as it isn't even a source repo!
[10:21] <dr_willis> you could just make a script thad adds the line you want
[10:21] <giany> dr_willis: well..seems thats what   i have to do.
[10:21] <dr_willis> that site may not have the deb-src setup right
[10:22] <Fanfare> Q:i added module atl1c to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-ath-pci.conf but it still gets loaded after reboot? Kubuntu natty
[10:22] <dr_willis> or write a script to commet out all deb-src lines
[10:22] <thrillERboy> Hi, I'm trying to Install ubuntu under Wubi, it stops loading ubuntu when rebooting into ubuntu for install, Error: saned disabled; edit etc/default/saned
[10:23] <thrillERboy> Please Help :)
[10:23] <ne2k> giany: it appears that apt-add-repository just blindly calls softwareproperties.add_source_from_line, so you'd have to look upstream at that
[10:23] <ne2k> giany: either that or just do it yourself
[10:24] <ne2k> giany: you can make it even easier by just creating files in sources.list.d, rather than editing an existing file
[10:25] <dr_willis> i agree with ne2k   dont touch sources.list
[10:26] <Fanfare> thrillERboy: i don't know wubi, but saned is not systemcritical so just remove it... i don't think its the reason though...
[10:27] <keroro> how can i install nvidia driver from livecd?
[10:27] <dr_willis> keroro:  and use on the live cd system?
[10:27] <keroro> before first run
[10:27] <keroro> no
[10:28] <keroro> just before first run of ubuntu
[10:28] <dr_willis> you eed to remaster your own live cd then
[10:28] <keroro> how?
[10:28] <ThinkT510> keroro: can't you boot in and install the restricted driver then reboot?
[10:28] <Guest24253> Any news on power conservation on laptops.. kernel fixes.. heard some issues in kernel after 2.6.38
[10:28] <dr_willis> !remaster
[10:29] <keroro> ThinkT510, yes i can but i want to do in this way :S
[10:29] <sunit> theadmin: actually I am trying to store the  return value/output of a command in a variable. How can I do that ?
[10:30] <thrillERboy> Thanks Fanfare
[10:30] <Duckfd> sunit, write to and from dev/null  ?
[10:31] <dr_willis> the return value is set to some special bash var. just save it tome other varaible
[10:32] <dr_willis> i forget the var name. i dont bash much these days
[10:32] <ranjan> Hi all, how to enable internet in android emulator when in a proxied environement?
[10:32] <Guest24253> sunit: var=`ls -la`; echo $var
[10:33] <sunit> Duckfd: I am trying to generate a pop up window containing ouput of the shell
[10:33] <sunit> Guest24253: ok
[10:34] <theadmin> sunit: export var=$(COMMAND)
[10:34] <theadmin> sunit: Then, you can access the variable contents by using $var
[10:34] <dr_willis> foo=$(command)  is more readable.
[10:35] <Morgz> anyone got hint to perform a command via ssh on current user session for remote?
[10:35] <theadmin> dr_willis: I think it's best to use export just to be safe
[10:35] <dr_willis> Morgz:  clarify what you need.
[10:36] <Morgz> sorry - I can ssh -X and have vlc play video on local/audio on remote, but i want to run video/audio on remote only.
[10:36] <crshbndct> hey every one
[10:36] <head_victim> crshbndct: dd is a much lower level direct copy, rsync is an incremental backup solution
[10:37] <dr_willis> Morgz:  vlc has cli commands and telnet interface to allow remote contorll of it
[10:37] <dr_willis> Morgz:  and a web interface i think
[10:37] <Morgz> dr_willis - didn't have much luck guessing at the cli, I'll look up telnet/web int - cheers
[10:37] <ne2k> Morgz: to run video on remote, you need to have the X authority right. the vlc cli might be the best thing
[10:37] <dr_willis> vlc --help or its docs...
[10:37] <crshbndct> okay... my thing is that i am trying to use a dvd .iso image to boot from. (its actually a win7 iso but thats neither here nor there)
[10:37] <head_victim> crshbndct: so it really depends on what you want to do. If I wanted to clone a disk for an upgrade I'd probably use dd. If I wanted to backup my home directory using a cron job regularly I'd use rsync.
[10:38] <dr_willis> my android had a ice vlc remote app
[10:38] <dr_willis> nice remote for vlc
[10:38] <theadmin> Heh, does everyone here own an android or what? xD
[10:38] <crshbndct> i tried dd if=/path/to/win7.iso of=/dev/sdb1 and it sort of worked, but i cant boot from it
[10:38] <nemon82> hi... anyone knows how I can turn off keyboard backlights for permanent
[10:39] <theadmin> crshbndct: You need "... of=/dev/sdb"
[10:39] <crshbndct> theadmin: i own an android
[10:39] <theadmin> crshbndct: You dd to a drive, not to a partition... Also I'm not sure Windows can boot from USB
[10:39] <Incarus6> nemon82, using MacBook?
[10:40] <sunit> theadmin: Can you please tell me the steps I should follow ?
[10:40] <crshbndct> okay... but i have two partitions on sdb.. sdb1 is the one i want to boot from, and sdb2 is where i eventually want to install to
[10:40] <nemon82> nope asus laptop... Superkey + f3 or f4 adjust the lights.. but i dont know how to close it permanent for every startup
[10:40] <theadmin> sunit: To do what?
[10:40] <theadmin> crshbndct: Then you can't do this.
[10:40] <theadmin> crshbndct: GRUB2 can boot ISOs. Read up on that.
[10:41] <crshbndct> i mounted the iso image and just copied the files to the sdb1, and it booted from that but i got the 80070570 error so i thought maybe dd could do it for me
[10:41] <Morgz> dr_willis - if I ssh into remote machine and execute a process which uses X, it either ports through to the local (when using -X) or (in this case anyway) it has problems grabbing a display. Can I redirect output to a the currently logged in user?
[10:41] <sunit> to generate the pop up containing output of the shell /
[10:42] <theadmin> sunit: I told you before, it's as simple as "command | xmessage -file -"
[10:42] <theadmin> sunit: And don't forget the - at the end.
[10:43] <dr_willis> Morgz: the x credentials need to be set right. nit x forwarding
[10:43] <sunit> theadmin: yes I know that. but how to use the output of shell as argument ?
[10:43] <sunit> the steps
[10:44] <theadmin> sunit: You make no sense. This should be enough.
[10:44] <dr_willis> Morgz:  xhost + localhost. and export display
[10:44] <Morgz> dr_willis - cheers, I'll look up x credentials.
[10:44] <vuth> theadmin why did u ask about android ?
[10:44] <theadmin> vuth: lol nothing, it's just I own one, dr_willis seems to own one...
[10:44] <Nisstyre> yes
[10:45] <dr_willis> so does my wife..
[10:45] <vuth> oh ok...well it is very popular we had a discusion about this...symbian used to be number 1 but not anymore..android will be taking number 1
[10:45] <sunit> theadmin: Probably I am unable to clear my problem
[10:45] <theadmin> vuth: Yeah.
[10:47] <sunit> when i am giving  "command | xmessage -file -" it only generate a pop up. I am trying to use output of shell in this pop up as notice
[10:47] <jrib> sunit: did you check the syntax for xmessage?
[10:48] <sunit> jrib: yes
[10:48] <theadmin> jrib: That syntax appears to be correct
[10:48] <jrib> sunit: what did it do that you didn't expect?
[10:48] <theadmin> dr_willis: Nice... *sighs*
[10:49] <jrib> sunit: for example "echo foo | xmessage -file -" works fine here
[10:49] <s0mequestions> hello! i've been looking for many hours on how to install the ubuntu server cd on an old pc without keyboard and display, but with network access/dhcp. what i want to achieve is simple: i want to use the normal installer via ssh from another computer. yet i have found no way on how to do it. how is it done, please?
[10:49] <jrib> !install | s0mequestions
[10:49] <jrib> s0mequestions: check there though I don't know if it answers your question
[10:50] <sunit> jrib: no, its working fine
[10:50] <jrib> sunit: so what is your question?
[10:50] <sunit> jrib: but i am trying to use output of shell in this message box as a notice. How can i do that ?
[10:51] <jrib> sunit: what do you mean by "output of shell"?  Give an example.
[10:51] <theadmin> sunit: Are you looking for "notify-send"?
[10:54] <Dougie187> Ok, so apparently there is some bug that makes gnome sessions load up slow. And panel applets are "not found" and docky's docklets don't load up properly. I was curious if anyone knows how to fix it?
[10:54] <Kingsy> how can I install silverlight on ubuntu for FF 5 >
[10:54] <Kingsy> ?*
[10:54] <sunit> jrib: Am I clear to you ?
[10:54] <jrib> Kingsy: install moonlight
[10:55] <Dougie187> just to help, it's this bug
[10:55] <sunit> jrib: for example when I  give  identify -test.jpg , its gives information regarding an image . I am trying to use this output in a message box
[10:55] <Dougie187> https://bugs.launchpad.net/docky/+bug/779752
[10:55] <jrib> sunit: no, I'm not sure what you want.  Is the issue with HOW the message is displayed or WHAT the message being displayed is?=
[10:55] <Kingsy> jrib: I tried on this site. http://go-mono.com/moonlight/ <-- but it says its cant install cos its not compatible with FF 5
[10:56] <jrib> sunit: try this: xmessage $(identify test.jpg)
[10:57] <vaev> hello. how would I best approach installing a single package and its dependencies from oneiric (package that doesn't exist in natty, python3-gobject)?
[10:57] <sunit> jrib: ok , i am trying
[10:57] <Kingsy> jrib: any ideas?
[10:57] <theadmin> jrib: "identify"?
[10:57] <jrib> theadmin: he gave that as an example
[10:57] <ThinkT510> vaev: thats not supported here
[10:57] <theadmin> jrib: Ah, okay
[10:58] <theadmin> !oneric | vaev
[10:58] <sunit> theadmin: identify is the command use by imagemagick -
[10:58] <vaev> ThinkT510, thank you for the info (I'm new to these channels here)
[10:58] <theadmin> sunit: Ah, I see... To identify file formats tho you can very well use "file"
[10:58] <ThinkT510> vaev: no worries :)
[10:59] <Morgz> dr_willis - got xhost going. you also mention export display??
[10:59] <sunit> jrib: imagemagick is image conversion utility
[10:59] <jrib> sunit: ok
[11:00] <nbest>   ThinkT510 , i've been thinking about switching to 11.04 but since there was no tor for lucid , and 11.04 is still quite new are you sure there is a tor for that version?
[11:00] <jrib> Kingsy: click on Download and try the nightly
[11:00] <theadmin> nbest: Compile it from source.
[11:00] <ThinkT510> nbest: yes
[11:00] <theadmin> nbest: That should never cause any problems ;)
[11:00] <ThinkT510> !info tor | nbest
[11:01] <Kingsy> jrib: nightly gives me a Server not found
[11:01] <ThinkT510> theadmin: he has been using linux for 2 days
[11:01] <theadmin> ThinkT510: Ah... Good point lol
[11:01] <nbest>  hahah , right , but i see that it is there
[11:01] <jrib> Kingsy: contact the moonlight community
[11:01] <nbest>  so yea might as well upgrade now i guess
[11:02] <Fanfare> i placed "rmmod atl1c" in /etc/rc.local couse "blacklist atl1c" in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf didn't prevent loading...
[11:02] <Fanfare> atl1c did freeze system when not connected or got disconnected...
[11:02] <nbest>  and it should be easier to install if it's on official repository , so will do
[11:03] <nbest>  i guess i'll see u guys after i upgrade
[11:03] <abhishekb> i dont have net at home is there any way i can install software in office n then install the iso at home
[11:03] <nbest> *crosses fingers*
[11:03] <jrib> sunit: either syntax:  identify test.jpg | xmessage -file -    OR    xmessage $(identify test.jpg)      seems to work fine here.  Does that do what you want?
[11:03] <ThinkT510> nbest: it would probably be better to install afresh (especially if you got nothing to keep from your 2 day install)
[11:04] <nbest>  oh, where is a guide to do that?
[11:04] <ThinkT510> !install | nbest
[11:05] <nbest>  right yea, i'll see about that
[11:05] <nbest>  thanks again, sorry for nooby questions
[11:05] <ThinkT510> nbest: download 11.04 and install like normal (formatting the old install)
[11:05] <ThinkT510> nbest: no worries :)
[11:06] <Kingsy> jrib: cant you install nightly with the repos?
[11:06] <jrib> Kingsy: apt-cache search moonlight
[11:07] <rabbit1> i am unable to find "Add Printer" in 10.10 ? how do i install in a network
[11:09] <theadmin> Ah she/he left
[11:12] <rabbit1> any help to install printer in 10.10 ? unable to find "Add Printer" in the Administrator tab
[11:12] <theadmin> I think CUPS has a web interface, rabbit1
[11:12] <theadmin> !cups | rabbit1
[11:15] <rabbit1> theadmin: i am installing CUPS, thank you
[11:15] <szal> theadmin, rabbit1: http://localhost:631/
[11:18] <theadmin> szal: Thanks. Odd port, as usual.
[11:18] <rabbit1> szal: i got that in my laptop, but not in the server desktop, so printer will be connected to that desktop (server
[11:18] <rabbit1> )
[11:18] <rabbit1> szal: thank you, added on the desktop as well
[11:19] <Cedara> I have a question regarding Unity
[11:19] <iceroot> !ask | Cedara
[11:19] <Incarus6> For everyone interested in Nvidias proprietary driver 280.13 (http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=2462436&postcount=5 returns 404), direct link is working: http://www.nvidia.com/content/DriverDownload-March2009/confirmation.php?url=/XFree86/Linux-x86/280.13/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-280.13.run&lang=us&type=Other
[11:20] <theadmin> Incarus6: No need to spam the channel ; nobody asked for such a link.
[11:21] <Cedara> The date and user id in the upper bar in unity is very dark, so that you can't see it when you are not clicking onto it, same goes for a few programmes where I end up not seeing the main menue bar. Is there any way to adjust the upper panel in transparency?
[11:21] <giany> how can i see the version of a packet that is available on a repo?
[11:21] <iceroot> giany: apt-cache policy packagename
[11:21] <iceroot> giany: but run sudo apt-get update  first
[11:22] <creel> sorry, you know where can i see the drivers i have already installed on my machine ?
[11:24] <livingdaylight> hi
[11:25] <livingdaylight> Can someone help me recover my home partition?
[11:25] <semi_afk> !info testdisk
[11:25] <theadmin> livingdaylight: testdisk may be able to, if you mean the partition got in some way damaged, or formatted.
[11:25] <livingdaylight> I am able to log into Ubuntu but screen is only the wallpaper without being able to access any files folders or applications. panel is gone, unity bar is gone
[11:26] <vaev> creel: do you mean by drivers: 1) kernel modules in general 2) 3rd party things like nvidia or ati drivers ?
[11:26] <livingdaylight> theadmin: i suppose that is what is looking likely to have happened and what I mean to do
[11:26] <theadmin> creel, ls -R /usr/lib/modules
[11:26] <creel> yeah sorry i need to know my wi-fi card driver
[11:26] <Lasers> livingdaylight: The good question? What were you doing when that happened?
[11:26] <livingdaylight> theadmin: can you tell me more about testdisc?
[11:27] <creel> thx theadmin
[11:27] <Incarus6> creel, try lsmod
[11:27] <theadmin> livingdaylight: Well, you should look here: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[11:28] <Incarus6> livingdaylight, are you sure that issue is related with your partition?
[11:28] <livingdaylight> thank you theadmin . I am on laptop now running windows. If I burn windows version to disc it will work on Ubuntu Desktop?
[11:29] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: it sounds like you need to reset the unity desktop
[11:29] <theadmin> livingdaylight: Obviously not, you should download the Linux version
[11:29] <livingdaylight> Lasers: FireFox seems to have triggered it. Recently began using Gwibber as a twitter client, Hitting on links triggered launching FF which I don't otherwise usually use (chome user). System froze under FF
[11:29] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: have you tried using a livecd to check if you can mount the partition first
[11:29] <Incarus6> livingdaylight, try to start Ubuntu Classic before playing around with testdisk
[11:29] <Incarus6> !classic | livingdaylight
[11:30] <Incarus6> ThinkT510, obviously not a partition issue, GDM is working properly - just Unity isn't
[11:30] <livingdaylight> Incarus6: tried that already. Same issue, although less flickering of Desktop than Unity and icons on Desktop are stable, Otherwise all is the same in respect to being able to access files or applications
[11:31] <vaev> creel: did you find what you were looking for?
[11:31] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: then you don't need to use testdisk
[11:31] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510: did not try that. Using live disc I can mount the partition and access folders?
[11:31] <AdvoWork> any idea where name server information would be held on an ubuntu server?
[11:31] <Incarus6> livingdaylight, can you access files the non-graphical way (ctrl+alt+F1)?
[11:31] <theadmin> AdvoWork: /etc/resolv.conf
[11:31] <theadmin> AdvoWork: Just like usual.
[11:32] <Lasers> livingdaylight: Yeah. Use LiveDisc to access the partitions and make backups. That would be the best choice.
[11:32] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: sure, but it sounds as if unity is just messed up (use a proper destop environment)
[11:32] <creel> mmm, i found a list of drivers but i can't recognize the one i need :/
[11:32] <Incarus6> creel, please paste "lsmod"
[11:33] <creel> Incarus6, http://pastebin.com/XsTtRyFD
[11:33] <livingdaylight> Incarus ctl+alt+F1 has truned my screen black. Command line and endelsss scrolling of numbers with e.d_request : I/0 error, dev sda, sector ******numbers****
[11:33] <AdvoWork> theadmin, that shows nameserver IP  but i mean, what about ns1.domain.co.uk for example?
[11:34] <Lasers> livingdaylight: Your hard drive *could* be dying.
[11:34] <_ruben> livingdaylight: better go out and buy a new hdd then
[11:34] <penquite> Hi all, I am interested to know whether most people using 11.04 use unity or have changed to an alternativ, is there some existing poll on this subject?
[11:34] <theadmin> AdvoWork: Um, you probably need to look up the hostname for that ip...
[11:34] <livingdaylight> just need to recover what was on that hard disc
[11:34] <theadmin> penquite: I use Xfce, it feels like Gnome2. Try it.
[11:34] <ne2k> penquite: unity confused me massively, so I use "classic"
[11:34] <Incarus6> creel, its cfg80211, mac80211, ath9k, ath9k_hw snd ath9k_common . make sure you don't use the 80211 driver and the ath9k driver at the same time
[11:34] <vaev> creel: most common modules for wifi that I've seen are rtl8192*, ath5k, ath9k .. if you find some of those in your lsmod it might be your wifi
[11:35] <livingdaylight> how do I stop the screen, simply reboot?
[11:35] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: ah, now you do need to backup your stuff and get a new drive
[11:35] <creel> ok vaev Incarus6 , thx you very much
[11:35] <ne2k> livingdaylight: if you can boot from a live disk and plug in a second hard disk to copy stuff to, that would be a good idea
[11:36] <ThinkT510> penquite: xfce is my preferred desktop environment (i use xubuntu)
[11:36] <Incarus6> creel, use "lsmod | ath9k"
[11:36] <Incarus6> creel, sry, wrong syntax, use "lsmod | grep ath9k"
[11:37] <theadmin> Incarus6: "wl" is also one of common wi-fi drivers.
[11:37] <creel> Incarus6, yep, thx :)
[11:38] <ozdemir> hello
[11:38] <penquite> Thanks all, I might have a look at Xfce
[11:39] <livingdaylight> theadmin: if hd is dying that disc won't fix the partitions now, will it
[11:39] <livingdaylight> ?
[11:39] <walt> My xubuntu install seems to have broken over the night. I don't get it. The only thing I remember doing yesterday before shutting it off was to install macchanger. GDM is stuck in a loop of trying to log in, showing a black screen with some text for half a second, then back to GDM. Has anyone experienced this?
[11:39] <walt> Xubuntu 10.10
[11:40] <ThinkT510> penquite: just so you know, gnome2 will be replaced with gnome3 in 11.10 (incase that influences your desktop environment choice)
[11:40] <walt> I read about some others having similar problems, and removing .ICEauthority and .Xauthority fixed it. But that did nothing for me
[11:43] <dantu> hi
[11:43] <ozdemir> hi
[11:44] <theadmin> livingdaylight: Obviously not.
[11:44] <dantu> I am new to this , where can I find android help??
[11:44] <theadmin> walt: Probably it just can't start Xfce... There can be a lot of reasons for that.
[11:44] <theadmin> dantu: #android
[11:45] <dantu> #android
[11:45] <dr_willis>  irc basics. :) /join #channelname
[11:45] <dantu> n command is the same ?? join #channelname
[11:45] <dantu> join #android
[11:45] <theadmin> dantu: Type this : /join #android
[11:46] <dantu> : /join #android
[11:46] <walt> theadmin: I have several window managers. None work
[11:46] <walt> theadmin: I usually run xubuntu. I can
[11:46] <walt> theadmin: sorry, Xmonad
[11:46] <theadmin> dantu: Without a colon before it
[11:46] <Cedara> Just a heads-up: I solved my own question by accident - I had to change to ambiance theme to get what I wanted.
[11:46] <dantu> done
[11:46] <dantu> Am I on android now?
[11:46] <walt> theadmin: I can't even get into recovery console. Login in from another tty works though
[11:47] <GirlyGirl> dantu: no
[11:47] <livingdaylight> guys, I've booted up live cd (ubuntu 10.10) but can't access my home folder as i dont' have permission. Can someone tell me how i get the permission so I can transfer files to safety?
[11:47] <dr_willis> walt,  get to console, login, do 'sudo service gdm stop'  then try 'startx' and look for error messages
[11:47] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,  use the root account to access them.
[11:47] <dantu> then how? I typed /join #android
[11:47] <theadmin> walt: Okay, that's odd.
[11:47] <theadmin> GirlyGirl: Welcome back!
[11:48] <Slydder1> hey all
[11:48] <GirlyGirl> dantu: whic irc client are you using
[11:48] <ThinkT510> dantu: what irc client are you using?
[11:48] <dr_willis> dantu,  time to check the docs for your irc client.  /join #channelname  NO space befor the /
[11:48] <dantu> XChat 2.8.6
[11:48] <dantu> A multiplatform IRC Client
[11:48] <dantu> Linux 2.6.32-32-generic [i686/1.60GHz/SMP]
[11:48] <dantu> Charset: UTF-8 Renderer: Pango
[11:48] <dantu> Compiled: Apr 24 2010
[11:48] <FloodBot1> dantu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:48] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: root account? could you say more please?
[11:48] <dr_willis> dantu,  theres the menus server -> join channel
[11:48] <ThinkT510> dantu: there is a channel list to your left
[11:49] <dantu> okie
[11:49] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,  from a terminal.  use sudo, and/or 'sudo -i' as needed to have full access to you rinstalled system
[11:49] <dr_willis> !sudo
[11:49] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: using terminal how do I get to running Nautilus as root?
[11:50] <theadmin> dr_willis: You should use "| nickname" with factoids to avoid general confusion as to where they are directed.
[11:50] <dr_willis> !gksudo
[11:50] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: gksudo nautilus
[11:50] <dr_willis> theadmin,  im so used to using my phone where i dont even have a | character. :) at home now..
[11:50] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510 | dr_willis thx
[11:50] <theadmin> dr_willis: Can't be that you don't HAVE one... Android, right?
[11:50] <dr_willis> the >< keys dont work on my android either..
[11:51] <dr_willis> the key dosent work on my  bluetoth keyboard for some odd reason.  < > | { } and a few otehrs dont work. or dont exist.
[11:51] <theadmin> dr_willis: You should hit the "SYM" key on your Android phone to find |, < and >
[11:51] <theadmin> dr_willis: As well as some others
[11:52] <dr_willis> theadmin,   its a bluetooth keyboard i am using. Not the onscreen keyboard.
[11:52] <theadmin> dr_willis: That's if you use Swype... Oh.
[11:52] <theadmin> dr_willis: Sorry, didn't notice
[11:52] <dr_willis> the mousepad works on the BT keyboard also on the phone theadmin  which is sort of amuseing. :)
[11:52] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510: gksudo nautilus doesn't work from live cd
[11:52] <walt> dr_willis: thanks. That helped me fix it. It was because my HDD was 100% full it seems. I must have had a download running yesterday
[11:52] <walt> interesting
[11:53] <dr_willis> walt,  how big is the HD?
[11:53] <walt> dr_willis: 160gb
[11:53] <theadmin> dr_willis: Well, Swype lets me type almost as fast as a regular QWERTY keyboard so why bother to get a bluetooth keyboard? Expensive, I bet.
[11:53] <walt> dr_willis: but it was at 90% yesterday morning.
[11:53] <dr_willis> theadmin,  $20
[11:53] <walt> dr_willis: and I was moving files around and copying and stuff yesterday
[11:53] <walt> it all wortks now though
[11:53] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: sorry, never tried it from a livecd
[11:53] <walt> thanks for helping me debug
[11:54] <dr_willis> theadmin,  its the size of my phone. with a little touchpad. and a laser pointer built in.   Need to try it on ubuntu someday.
[11:54] <theadmin> dr_willis: The size of your phone? Hm, smallish then...
[11:54] <theadmin> dr_willis: Unless your phone is in some way similar to an iPad
[11:55] <BluesKaj> hey folks
[11:55] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: regarding root. I'm accessing (read - recovering - ) my home partition from a live cd. Do you know how I get root permission from a live cd to access my hd?
[11:56] <theadmin> livingdaylight: su
[11:56] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,  gksudo nautilus should work..  i just use the sudo command as needed on the command line. I NEVER run nautilus as root.
[11:56] <theadmin> livingdaylight: Err, "sudo -i", whatever
[11:56] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,  this isent an encrypted home is it?
[11:57] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: no, it isn't. just a dying hd of which I'm attemtpting to recover precious files using live cd
[11:57] <theadmin> dr_willis: Hint: "gksu" is shorter to type than "gksudo", yet on Ubuntu they do the same thing.
[11:57] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,  mount the filesystem, cd to the directory, sudo cp whatever /media/wherveryouarebackingupto
[11:57] <dr_willis> theadmin,  but then people get trained to think its 'su' they are using  not sudo. :) so i avoid gksu ussage.
[11:58] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: mounting the file system is what I'm trying to figure out how to do? how?
[11:58] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,  accessit from the file manager. and it should auto mount.
[11:58] <stevethepirate> 12:26  stevethepirate: 09:16  stevethepirate: Hi, my AAC's (M4A's) are not working, I've grabbed the gstreamer plugins (bad/good/ugly) to no avail.
[11:58] <stevethepirate> 12:26  stevethepirate: 09:18  stevethepirate: "Your GStreamer installation is missing a plugin".
[11:58] <stevethepirate> [in clementine ^^]
[11:58] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,  or use the mount command  'sudo mount /dev/sdXX  /mnt'  or whever you want to mount it to.
[11:58] <livingdaylight> theadmin: when I sudo -i, Yes, I become root, but in Nautilus instead of my username after home I see UBUNTU and none of my files
[11:59] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: it is mounting from the file manager but not as root
[11:59] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,  you still need to go to the Mounted drive you want to access not your "home" which is the live-users home
[11:59] <theadmin> livingdaylight: That's not the right partiton, look for something like "500GB filesystem" in the left menu
[11:59] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: ah
[12:00] <livingdaylight> theadmin: yes, that is what I did before running root, when it was inaccessible. Now as root I don't see my 500gb disc on the left
[12:01] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: df -h
[12:01] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: that will tell you what is mounted where
[12:01] <theadmin> ThinkT510: The better way is "mount"
[12:02] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: there is nothing in my mnt folder
[12:02] <ThinkT510> theadmin: df -h looks cleaner to me
[12:03] <theadmin> ThinkT510: df is for disk usage.
[12:03] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,  that was an example IF you used the mount command. the File manager will mount things to /media/ like it does on a normal install
[12:03] <rabbit1> installed CUPS, printed a document, but now http://localhost:631/admin says "Unable to Connect" all other localhost is working. help please
[12:03] <connelly> so I had some btrfs problems and had to upgrade the kernel to 3.0.0, then I had to reinstall the ATI drivers for my video card(s) and now I get a nasty kernel panic at boot: http://pastebin.com/UMg3jr8Z - anyone have any suggestions on how to fix this or who to talk to? thanks
[12:03] <TITANO> hi all. I am novice to ubuntu and dont understand why i need to install applications. when I build one, why i cannot simple run its main executable file? what does the installation process do exactly?
[12:03] <ThinkT510> theadmin: if the partition is already mounted it will appear there
[12:04] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: noting in media either. Are you saying I have to physically mount it to one of these folders before being able to read it?
[12:04] <dr_willis> TITANO,  if you compile them right.. you can just 'run' them.
[12:04] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,  when you click on the disk on the left side.. it mounts  to /media/SOMENAME
[12:04] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,  IF the disk is really dieing. it may showup/vanish/or just fail to mount.
[12:04] <OmegaForte> dr_willis, It mounts to it's volume name or UUID
[12:04] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510: I can see my folders no problem when I am not root in my file manager, no need for df-h its when I am root that I cannto access my hd
[12:04] <theadmin> !packages | TITANO
[12:05] <dr_willis> TITANO,  its worked for me. if you staticaly compile stuff. but theres always the extra libs that may be the issue.
[12:05] <theadmin> Oh by the way, someone update the !packages factoid to mention the Ubuntu Software Center.
[12:05] <TITANO> thanks for your explanations, but this doesnt answer my questions yet
[12:05] <dr_willis> bbl - gotta go to the garden.
[12:06] <TITANO> if i build a simple QT or GTK+ application, then I go into the folder that contains it, i cannot actually run it
[12:06] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: df -h was just to show you where the partition is mounted so you know where to go when in the root terminal
[12:06] <TITANO> while it works from the 'debug' menu of ajunta or qtcreator
[12:07] <rabbit1> installed CUPS, printed a document, but now http://localhost:631/admin says "Unable to Connect" all other localhost is working. any help ?
[12:07] <TITANO> let me try building and running a simple c file
[12:07] <theadmin> TITANO: Make sure it's marked as executable.
[12:07] <rabbit1> theadmin: CUPS installed, now localhost:163 is not working :(
[12:08] <rabbit1> theadmin: sorry its "localhost:631" is not working
[12:08] <theadmin> rabbit1: Try "sudo service cups start", I suppose.
[12:08] <rabbit1> theadmin: the job is already running
[12:08] <theadmin> rabbit1: Odd...
[12:08] <rabbit1> theadmin: yeap odd
[12:09] <theadmin> rabbit1: Maybe try rebooting the system (if it's not some critically important server, like google.com)... idk
[12:11] <rabbit1> theadmin: what next dude...? very confusing, restarted the system as well
[12:11] <livingdaylight> I don't understand why wen I launch Nautilus I can see my 500gb hd and two other hd's 160gb and 80gb respectively but when I go into Nautilus as root they disappear?
[12:11] <theadmin> rabbit1: Well I'm out of ideas.
[12:11] <theadmin> livingdaylight: GVFS doesn't run as root.
[12:11] <TITANO> doesnt work
[12:11] <livingdaylight> GVFS ?
[12:12] <TITANO> i have created a simple hello world program, built it with gcc
[12:12] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: they are there, look under /media
[12:12] <theadmin> livingdaylight: The thing responsible for Nautilus disk management.
[12:12] <TITANO> and the checked that the file "test.o" were in the folder and executable
[12:12] <dasith> hey
[12:12] <dasith> ppl
[12:13] <jrib> TITANO: please use one line to describe your issue (don't use the enter key to break it up)
[12:13] <rabbit1> theadmin: what if i remove and install cups again ?
[12:13] <Muelli> rabbit1: well. do smth like "ps aux | grep -i cups" to check whether CUPS is indeed running.
[12:13] <livingdaylight> They are not under media ThinkT510, please...
[12:13] <TITANO> and when tried to run it, i got "test.o: command not found" - sorry for the multiline, wont do it again
[12:13] <jrib> TITANO: ./test.o
[12:13] <dasith> hw do u update Nvidia drivers in ubuntu
[12:13] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: what is the output of mount?
[12:14] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510: mount what?
[12:14] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: just: mount
[12:14] <rabbit1> Muelli: what should be output of it?
[12:14] <vaev> how does the ubuntu package system work in this case: natty repository has package x version y but another source has package x version y+1.. how does ubuntu (apt) determine which one to use/install?
[12:15] <rabbit1> Muelli: its showing some numbers
[12:15] <theadmin> TITANO, . is usually not in $PATH, so yes, you have to do ./test.o
[12:15] <vaev> how about if it's a distribution default package that should not be overwritten by a newer version? (like gnome2 to gnome3 I assume)
[12:15] <Muelli> rabbit1: you should see at least one line, identifying the process. Paste it somewhere.
[12:15] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510: unfortunately, live cd doesn't have irc client, otherwise I could paste you the output. It looks like a lot of garbled information to me though,
[12:15] <rabbit1> Muelli: yes it is
[12:16] <Muelli> rabbit1: next, I'd do a "sudo netstat -tulpen" and search for the CUPS process. It should have openend a listening TCP socket.
[12:16] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: put it on pastebin and give the link here
[12:16] <jrib> vaev: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html read about how version numbers are compared.  Unless you have some sort of apt rule setup, the greater version will be chose
[12:16] <vaev> jrib: thanks. will have a read
[12:16] <rabbit1> Muelli:  netstat-tulpen command not found ...
[12:17] <bastidrazor> rabbit1: you missed the space
[12:17] <Muelli> rabbit1: just reread what I've written
[12:17] <rabbit1> Muelli: sorry, yeah right
[12:18] <jrib> TITANO: when you type a COMMAND in your shell, it searches the contents of your $PATH (echo $PATH to check it out).  Since, as theadmin pointed out, '.' is not in the default $PATH, your shell can't find test.o
[12:18] <rabbit1> Muelli: no, its not
[12:18] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510: http://pastebin.com/BSTOUp3B
[12:18] <rabbit1> Muelli: it's not listening....
[12:18] <dr_willis> TITANO,  http://www.linuxheadquarters.com/howto/basic/path.shtml
[12:19] <Muelli> rabbit1: that's weird then. Paste the output somewhere.
[12:19] <TITANO> can you see other's notice? i didnt know
[12:19] <connelly> so I had some btrfs problems and had to upgrade the kernel to 3.0.0, then I had to reinstall the ATI drivers for my video card(s) and now I get a nasty kernel panic at boot: http://pastebin.com/UMg3jr8Z - anyone have any suggestions on how to fix this or who to talk to? thanks
[12:19] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: i can't see it, unknown paste id
[12:19] <Pici> TITANO: No, notices are private. Best to just tell the channel that you understand, that way we all know to stop helping.
[12:19] <Muelli> connelly: I'd remove the module.
[12:19] <rabbit1> Muelli: ok, it usually should be in "<IP_ADDRESS>:631 " I don't find this at all in the list
[12:20] <theadmin> TITANO: Notices are bad ideas, either /query or just tell inside the channel
[12:21] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510 maybe it was a 'zero' instead of an 'O' ? http://pastebin.com/BST0Up3B
[12:21] <ThinkT510> connelly: that isn't really supported here
[12:21] <Muelli> rabbit1: that's weird then. Paste the output somewhere.
[12:21] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: thanks
[12:21] <dr_willis> connelly,  if you really must have the 3.0 kernel - you may want to try the next release its in alpha testing right now.  so watch out.
[12:21] <juliohm> Hi, can you here me?
[12:21] <TITANO> ok, thanks - i misunderstood the colors of this chat client then. it must highlight the lines with my nick in it
[12:22] <thrillERboy> Hi, I have installed ubuntu under wine, I get Error when booting into ubuntu, it fails saying "saned disabled: edit etc/default/saned" How do I clear that? I faced the same problem with install screen, but when I booted under ACPI workaround mode, it worked. How Do I fix this? Thanks.
[12:22] <juliohm> Hi, can you hear* me?
[12:22] <dr_willis> TITANO,  yep. thats common feature for irc clients
[12:22] <dr_willis> juliohm,  we see you. :)
[12:22] <juliohm> thank you dr_willis :)
[12:22] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: /dev/sdc1 and /dev/sdd1 are both mounted under media
[12:22] <rabbit1> Muelli: http://pastebin.com/f142tE7w
[12:22] <TITANO> eh, the irc client i was using before, from the 80's, didnt :D
[12:22] <rabbit1> Muelli: printer_cups is the name
[12:23] <juliohm> Someone could give me an advice about Gnome 3? I'm really divided in install Arch+Gnome3 or Ubuntu+Unity, what do you recommend and why?
[12:23] <Muelli> rabbit1: and can you paste the ps aux?
[12:23] <dr_willis> I seem to recall ircII that i used in the 80's did.. but i also rember IRCing from a greenbar printing terminal.
[12:23] <dr_willis> or was it just 'IRC I' back then. :) heh.  been so long.
[12:23] <Muelli> juliohm: you can use GNOME3 on Ubuntu :-)
[12:23] <dr_willis> juliohm,  next release of ubuntu will hve gnome3 as an option.
[12:24] <rabbit1> Muelli: "ligature 5003 0.0 0.0 8952 888 pts/0 S+ 17:44 0:00 grep --color=auto -i cups"
[12:24] <rabbit1> Muelli: "cups" is in red color
[12:24] <OmegaForte> dr_willis, God I hope not. I have enough issues with emerald now..
[12:24] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510: I can access both my 80 and 160 gb partitions which are more like external hd's for backing up. What I can't access is my actual ubuntu install with my home
[12:24] <Muelli> rabbit1: so it's not running.
[12:24] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: do you know what disk it is on?
[12:24] <Muelli> rabbit1: do smth like "sudo service cups restart" and pastebin us the output
[12:25] <juliohm> dr_willis, i know, but for now, do you recommend Gnome 3? It's a good experience?
[12:25] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510: I think it would be /dev/sda ?
[12:25] <tyler_d1> how do you get 3d support to work with a dual intel/nvidia card (laptop). I have installed hte new drivers and tried "switchable and descrete" however no matter what setting the xorg.conf does not load properly with an error relating to not being able to find the screen?
[12:25] <TITANO> I'm happy, things seem more rational now
[12:25] <rabbit1> Muelli: i did that before, but had to ctrl C it cos taking lot of time with no output
[12:25] <aetas> livingdaylight, whats the problem?
[12:25] <G0R> juliohm: I currently run Arch with Gnome 3 and I'm still undecided.  If Gnome improves I will stay with it, if not....
[12:25] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: launch gparted to find out exactly which partition it is
[12:26] <Muelli> rabbit1: yeah, that's not supposed to be. So do it but don't press Ctrl+C.
[12:26] <nyankipz> i need more space on my windows parition. How successful is taking space from an ubuntu parition and adding it to a windows one. IE what are the odds of dataloss?
[12:26] <tyler_d1> as well I note that nvidia-xconfig is not found :(
[12:26] <rabbit1> Muelli: I am still waiting ....... no result, since your last suggestion
[12:26] <OmegaForte> nyankipz, Extent is a fully journalized partition. It's fine. Just leave atleast 20% freespace.
[12:26] <Muelli> rabbit1: so what does it read? Pastebin us the actual output that you've gotten so far.
[12:26] <OmegaForte> s/partition/filetable
[12:26] <ThinkT510> aetas: he is trying to backup his install from a livecd because his disk is dying
[12:27] <juliohm> G0R, good to hear from a user already. :)
[12:27] <Benkinooby> !off-topic
[12:27] <nyankipz> awesome thanks Omega force
[12:27] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510: Nautilus would identify my hd's by teh gb size, but as root in nautilus one is 60241F167ADECD08 and that is empty? the other one is A3EB-B775 and that I can see read and access in Nautilus without root priviledges
[12:27] <aetas> ThinkT510, ah, ok
[12:27] <juliohm> G0R, could i talk in pvt with you?
[12:28] <G0R> juliohm: sure, not sure how much help i can be though
[12:28] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510: it would  be nice if live cd's came with both gparted and an irc client, but they don't
[12:28] <rabbit1> Muelli: no luck still.....................
[12:28] <Muelli> rabbit1: so what does it read? Pastebin us the actual output that you've gotten so far.
[12:28] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: what livecd are you using?
[12:29] <aetas> livingdaylight, so install one
[12:29] <dr_willis> Hmm. theres an IRC client on the live cd.. and i thought gparted was on it.. or you can just apt-get install it..
[12:29] <rabbit1> Muelli: its says noting......
[12:29] <theadmin> dr_willis: GParted is on the livecd
[12:29] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510: 10.10
[12:29] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: xchat and gparted are both on them
[12:29] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,  you may want to check out the actual 'gparted' live cd also. It boots faster then the ubuntu live cd. smaller download also. and some extra tools for disk   manipulation
[12:30] <rabbit1> Muelli: gtg . thanks a lot for the help, let me check out tomorrow. got some work now. Also will try removing and getting it back and check. What you suggest?
[12:30] <Muelli> sure rabbit1. It won't do any harm
[12:30] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: good, I will look at that. I am snookered for now. I can't figure out how to access my ubuntu install home files using ubuntu live cd
[12:31] <MaximumResults> Hi
[12:31] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510: where?
[12:31] <ThinkT510> dr_willis: i find partedmagic better
[12:31] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: have you looked?
[12:31] <MaximumResults> I'm trying to get my sound working. My microphone isn't working. When I run the "Sound Recorder"  Nothing records.
[12:32] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510: yes
[12:32] <thrillERboy> Hi, I have installed ubuntu under wine, I get Error when booting into ubuntu, it fails saying "saned disabled: edit etc/default/saned" How do I clear that? I faced the same problem with install screen, but when I booted under ACPI workaround mode, it worked. How Do I fix this? Thanks. I cannot login to ubuntu, but I have live cd with me. Please help.
[12:32] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: type xchat from a terminal
[12:32] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510: why do yoiu say xchat and gparted are on 10.10 live cd?
[12:32] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: because they are
[12:32] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: it might be the lighter xchat-gnome
[12:33] <GirlyGirl> thrillERboy: How can you install Ubuntu unser wine??
[12:33] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,  it may be time to learn some bash basics I guess..  its not really that complex.
[12:33] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510: they are not on my version of Ubuntu 10.10 live cd
[12:33] <aetas> GirlyGirl, he can't, he probably means wubi
[12:33] <thrillERboy> GirlyGirl: Sorry, my bad, under wubi.
[12:33] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: are you certain you are using the 10.10 cd?
[12:33] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: tell me.
[12:34] <thrillERboy> Hi, I have installed ubuntu under wubi, I get Error when booting into ubuntu, it fails saying "saned disabled: edit etc/default/saned" How do I clear that? I faced the same problem with install screen, but when I booted under ACPI workaround mode, it worked. How Do I fix this? Thanks. I cannot login to ubuntu, but I have live cd with me. Please help.
[12:34] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,  wheres the home dir mounted to?
[12:34] <thrillERboy> hey aetas older wubi crash was permanenet, I lost those disk files.
[12:35] <aetas> blah
[12:35] <ThinkT510> dr_willis: it isn't: here is his mount output: http://pastebin.com/BST0Up3B
[12:35] <thrillERboy> This time, I've setup backup ;) aetas
[12:35] <ThinkT510> dr_willis: he says his install is on sda
[12:35] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: I've not mounted the home directory anywhere. It doesn't appear to show up when I do df- h as ThinkT510 has shown you
[12:36] <rizzuh> Why do Synaptic and Software Center insist on me installing either Chormium or Firefox? I can't get rid of browsers I don't use.
[12:36] <aetas> thrillERboy, heh good :)
[12:36] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: actually that was the output for mount not df -h
[12:37] <ThinkT510> dr_willis: i'm trying to get him to launch gparted but he insists it doesn't exist on the 10.10 livecd (i know it does)
[12:37] <aetas> thrillERboy, what video card out of curiosity?
[12:38] <thrillERboy> aetas: ATI
[12:38] <thrillERboy> I have ATI on the one I'm chatting from as well, this works without any problem aetas
[12:38] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: when I do df- h I can see my 500 gb ubuntu insallation hd. It is mounted on /media/973d5869-cd6e-46c3-8cc6-84c05801b0a3
[12:39] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510: are you looking at ubuntu 10.10 live now as we speak?
[12:39] <thrillERboy> How do I boot into Ubuntu with ACPI workaround mode
[12:39] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,  so it is at /media/973dxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx then?
[12:40] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: that is what df- h is saying
[12:40] <aetas> thrillERboy, so how'd you install it if you can't get it to boot?
[12:40] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: no but i have used it myself and i know it has gparted
[12:40] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,  so if you 'cd /media/973<hit the tab key to fill in the name'  you should be in the directory
[12:41] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: http://pastebin.com/MnjkdGdp
[12:41] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: I'm doing this as root, right? and then?
[12:42] <aetas> thrillERboy, don't suppose its a laptop is it?
[12:42] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510: I'd love it if you would check 10.10 live cd now. You'll find it is not there
[12:42] <thrillERboy> aetas: When I ran wubi and restarted and booted into ubuntu to complete the installation, it didn't work as well, but when loading there was an option to select different boot modes, which I activated by pressing Esc. Then under that Normal and Safe graphics mode did not work, but When I chose ACPI work around mode, it worked.
[12:43] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,  bash basics..  the 'ls' command lists files.. run ls.. do you see some dirs?
[12:43] <thrillERboy> its HP lapto aetas
[12:43] <thrillERboy> HP laptop
[12:43] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: yup, I see home in blue
[12:44] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,  so cd into that dir.... 'cd home'
[12:44] <rizzuh> Why do Synaptic and Software Center insist on me installing either Chormium or Firefox? I can't get rid of browsers I don't use.
[12:44] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,  then cd into your users named dir. whatever that is..
[12:44] <thrillERboy> I think, If I figureout a way to boot using ACPI work around mode, then I can login to UBUNTU without issues.
[12:44] <duga> rizzuh: try from command line: apt-get or dpkg
[12:44] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: yup I got the idea and did that already and I am now in my home/username/folders
[12:45] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: if i could just copy them somewhere safe now? :s
[12:45] <aetas> thrillERboy, have you tried booting with acpi=off?
[12:45] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,  now you use  the cp command to whaver you want..
[12:45] <thrillERboy> Going to Recovery mode also makes it hang. same problem saned disabled.
[12:45] <thrillERboy> :(
[12:45] <thrillERboy> how to do it aetas ? I haven't tried it? I think it will work, but how should I do it?
[12:45]  * thrillERboy runs to google
[12:46] <aetas> thrillERboy, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Main%20Start%20Page%20Options
[12:47] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: if the other backup hd on my computer mounted as /media/A3EB-B775 would I then just for e.g. cp /Documents /media/A3EB-B775 ?
[12:47] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,  should i point out that UbuntuOne now gives you 5GB of storage :)
[12:47] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,  somthing like that.. but you will want to use the 'recursive' option for cp.
[12:47] <dr_willis>  -R, -r, --recursive          copy directories recursively
[12:48] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: that's nice to know, although I'm dealing iin mega gb storage here :s. So, you're saving my bacon here
[12:48] <rizzuh> duga: that works, but it doesn
[12:48] <rizzuh> duga: doen't answer why those tools insist on install another browser.
[12:48] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,   you can buy more space. :) 5gb is big enough for my imporntant stuff.
[12:49] <Guest30065> could someone explain how hibernation works?
[12:49] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: re recursive option is that in case there are other directories inside, for e.g. Documents folder that would otherwise not get copied over using the simple 'cp' command?
[12:49] <Guest30065> I noticd when I close my lit, it hibernates
[12:50] <ThinkT510> Guest30065: you can change that in the power settings
[12:50] <jnsl_> Could a broken battery with only 20% cause in overheating when the laptop is plugged in ?
[12:50] <Guest30065> but how does it work?
[12:50] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: so, cp -r Documents /media/A3EB-B775 ?
[12:51] <ThinkT510> Guest30065: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hibernation_(computing)
[12:51] <vaev> Guest30065: your computer state is stored in hard disk. to be read and resumed when you restart your computer
[12:52] <livingdaylight> not sure what the 'recursive' option does ?
[12:52] <Guest30065> and where does this particular flavor of hibernation store the data?
[12:52] <dr_willis>  -R, -r, --recursive          copy directories recursively   (and files of course)
[12:52] <dr_willis> ie: copys everything
[12:53] <livingdaylight> everything opposed to? only some of it?
[12:53] <dr_willis> try it and see...
[12:53] <ThinkT510> Guest30065: usually your swap partition (or a swap file)
[12:53] <dr_willis> if you got any sub dirs livingdaylight  normal cp wont get them
[12:53] <Guest30065> does that imply that swap needs to be at least ram size plus a little more?
[12:53] <ThinkT510> Guest30065: yes
[12:54] <livingdaylight> dr_willis try what? the example I showed you? : cp -r Documents /media/A3EB-B775
[12:54] <TA5K> wow they sold more linux games than Mac?! http://www.humblebundle.com/
[12:54] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: what is teh difference between the small 'r' and the big 'R' that confuses me
[12:54] <Pici> !ot | TA5K
[12:55] <Guest30065> ok, what part of the kernel tells the laptop to do the hibernation?
[12:55] <GOMI> i got this exclamation mark in my corner screen it says "update information is outdated"  but when i click on it and search he founds NOTHING ??
[12:55] <Guest30065> and, if userland is also involved, what userland programs
[12:55] <GOMI> its second time now i got that
[12:55] <theadmin> livingdaylight: No difference.
[12:56] <livingdaylight> theadmin: cool
[12:56] <theadmin> livingdaylight: Well not in this command anyway
[12:56] <theadmin> livingdaylight: Sometimes there is.
[12:56] <borisddd> hi all :) i experience problems with evolution , from few days it's almost unusable , does anyone know how to fix
[12:57] <dr_willis> http://ubuntugeek.tradepub.com/free/w_mach02/       bash 'book' in pdf format livingdaylight
[12:57] <livingdaylight> theadmin: doh ><
[12:58]  * theadmin uses zsh instead of bash, and finds it fine.
[12:59] <dr_willis> 'fish' an interesting shell to try out sometime also
[12:59] <banished> Hi, in Skype my webcam just shows a black image, but everywhere else (e.g. cheese) it works fine.
[12:59] <theadmin> banished: Blame Skype, this isn't an Ubuntu issue. We can't help you.
[12:59] <ThinkT510> banished: skype is closed source so we can't help
[13:00] <rileyp> how can I downgrade a repo
[13:00] <banished> I thought this would be some known issue that could be fixed somehow…
[13:00] <ThinkT510> rileyp: sounds dangerous
[13:00] <rileyp> I want to use the jya mythtv repo not the fixes repo
[13:00] <Guest30065> you'd need control over that repo
[13:01] <rileyp> I have removed teh mythbuntu repo and mythfrontend and added teh jya repo
[13:01] <Guest30065> probably you edit your sources.list
[13:01] <dr_willis> rileyp,  you can change repos to whatver one you want.. but the term 'downgrade a repo' seems.. incorrect.
[13:02] <dr_willis> remove apps from the problem repo. add a new repo. install the apps.
[13:02] <theadmin> banished: We don't support Microsoft products at all... You know
[13:02] <Guest30065> yeah, I understood "downgrade a repo" to mean something you weren['t asking about
[13:02] <greyfiend> hey I'm having periodic mouse freezing on 11.04 studio, mouse doesn't move but I can still use the keyboard, freeze lasts about 5 secs and happens every few minutes, any suggestions? is there a log file i should look at?
[13:03] <rileyp> well i just want to use the jya mythtv repo and not fixes
[13:03] <Pici> theadmin: skype is in the partner repositories
[13:03] <theadmin> Pici: Oh... Sorry then
[13:03] <dr_willis> for now. :)
[13:03] <rileyp> I have added the jya repo and key and
[13:03] <rileyp> removedth other
[13:03] <Pici> !enter
[13:09] <greyfiend> anyone know where to find a log file that might show mouse errors?
[13:10] <theadmin> greyfiend: I think that'd be the Xorg log, after all that's pretty much the only thing using a mouse.
[13:11] <theadmin> greyfiend: I'm just shooting the sky here tho
[13:12] <greyfiend> theadmin: thanks i'll check that out
[13:13] <greyfiend> dmesg shows: 'TouchPad at isa0060/serio4/input0 lost sync at byte 1' could this be realated to mouse freezes?
[13:14] <theadmin> greyfiend: Common sense tells me that it could.
[13:14] <JediMaster> hi all, I've just installed natty on to my new netbook, samsung nc210, everything is working great apart from the display backlight dimming, if I use the keyboard shortcut to change the brightness the ubuntu onscreen bar comes up and it goes up and down but the screen itself doesn't change brightness, any ideas on a fix?
[13:15] <greyfiend> theadmin: I came to the same conclusion
[13:18] <thrillERboy> Hi, I've added flag noacpi noapic nolapic break=init flags to boot menu and pressed ctrl+x to boot, still I can't boot into Login screen or desktop. cc: aetas
[13:19] <thrillERboy> Boot flags can be added without hyphens right? I mean without "-" s
[13:20] <theadmin> thrillERboy: They should be added without hyphens.
[13:20] <theadmin> thrillERboy: You can try booting into a very recovery mode by adding "init=/bin/bash"
[13:22] <vaev> greyfiend: do you by chance use a ps2 mouse in the computer in question and have do you by chance touch the touchpad while moving the mouse at the same time when the error occurs?
[13:23] <greyfiend> vaev: no, error occurs with and without an external mouse plugged in.
[13:24] <thrillERboy> I think, I'm doing something wrong, when boot selection menu appears, I press e and enter edit boot options mode, then I add those flags at the end, and then I press ctrl+x to boot, still it behaves same :(
[13:24] <vaev> greyfiend: sounds like a misbehaving touchpad or a bug in the driver then.. you might want to check out http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/376 too if it's of help
[13:24] <ionite> Hi guys.  Would 10.4 be more stable than 11.04?
[13:24] <thrillERboy> theadmin: with init=/bin/bash also behaves same :(
[13:24] <ThinkT510> ionite: it is supported longer
[13:24] <greyfiend> vaev: thanks i'll do that
[13:24] <dr_willis> thrillERboy,  you are not putting options after the last -- (if it exists) are you?
[13:25] <ionite> ThinkT510: what do u mean?
[13:25] <ThinkT510> !lts | ionite
[13:25] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: so far so good! a bit of Bash and bob's my uncle, lol
[13:25] <ionite> ThinkT510: what do u mean support 3 years?
[13:26] <ThinkT510> ionite: recieves updates
[13:26] <ionite> ThinkT510: i feel my current 11.04 is alittle laggy & slow andbuggy on my old system. is it my system or the OS itself?
[13:26] <theadmin> thrillERboy: init=/bin/bash should give you a recovery shell.
[13:26] <Vustom> Can someone help me out with a problem I'm having using a Proxy on my Ubuntu PC? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1816509
[13:26] <theadmin> thrillERboy: Operate from it.
[13:26] <b0ot> When you do a copy and it fails because you have a symbolic link... does the copy stop at that point or does it just not do the symbolic link and then continue copying files [used cp -r]
[13:26] <ionite> ThinkT510: overall i think 11.04 is gd but how why is it laggy & buggy?
[13:26] <theadmin> thrillERboy: If you need read-write filesystem access, do "mount -o remount,rw /"
[13:27] <ThinkT510> ionite: unity is fairly new, i don't use it and stick with xfce
[13:27] <ionite> ThinkT510: banshee player is quite buggy. so 10.4 will be less buggy & faster?
[13:28] <ThinkT510> ionite: faster? i'm not sure about, but the lts releases are designed to be more stable
[13:28] <dr_willis>         linux   /vmlinuz-3.0.0-7-generic root=UUID=f9be3626-21a2-4f40-ab50-f133ee41d13c ro init=/bin/bash      would be close to what he neds theadmin ?
[13:28] <ionite> ThinkT510: so ure using 10.4?
[13:29] <ThinkT510> ionite: xubuntu 11.04
[13:29] <ionite> ThinkT510: after all the updates till now, when i switch from window to window or tab to tab there are seconds delay.
[13:29] <ThinkT510> ionite: i don't like unity or gnome
[13:29] <dr_willis> ThinkT510,  if you want 'lighter/faster' but less features = try lubuntu./
[13:29] <ionite> what's xubuntu?
[13:29] <dr_willis> xubuntu = ubuntu + xfce
[13:29] <ThinkT510> !xubuntu | ionite
[13:30] <mnieper___> Does anyone know by chance where gdm selects the "unity" profile of compiz when I ask for a unity session?
[13:30] <ionite> ThinkT510: it's for low specs comp. so hope it'll work out for my low specs comp.
[13:30] <mnieper___> Due to some error here, the Standard profile (which does not include the unity plugin) is always loaded regardless of session.
[13:30] <ThinkT510> dr_willis: i've tried lxde, its not half bad but just doesn't seem as uniform as xfce
[13:30] <dr_willis> mnieper___,  gdm gets the desktop sessionf from various 'foo.desktop' files with the commands to run
[13:30] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: using -R option will the system skip over any pre-existing files or directories of the same name?
[13:31] <dr_willis>  livingdaylight  never noticed.. try it and see.
[13:31] <mnieper___> @dr_willis: Thanks... can you point me at the directory of the .desktop files?
[13:31] <dr_willis> make a dir with 3 files. try it.
[13:31] <dr_willis> mnieper___,  'locate gnome.desktop' finds them at -  /usr/share/xsessions/gnome.desktop
[13:32] <dr_willis> mnieper___,  there may be other dirs it looks in
[13:33] <ionite> ThinkT510: xubuntu and ubuntu what's the diff?
[13:34] <mina2> my usb 3g modem doesnt work
[13:34] <theadmin> mina2: You need usb_modeswitch for those to work.
[13:34] <mina2> it has macos drivers can i install them in ubuntu
[13:34] <mnieper___> Found "gnome.desktop" (and thanks for pointing out 'locate'!). There it simply says to start gnome-session with the session=ubuntu parameter. I guess this means /usr/share/gnome-session/sessions/ubuntu.session.
[13:34] <mnieper___> In that file, however, no compiz profile is loaded.
[13:35] <theadmin> mina2: No.
[13:35] <ionite> hey guys! what's the diff between Ubuntu & Xbuntu?
[13:35] <theadmin> ionite: Xubuntu uses XFCE.
[13:35] <ThinkT510> ionite: ubuntu uses unity xubuntu uses xfce
[13:35] <theadmin> ionite: Ubuntu uses Gnome/Unity.
[13:35] <Ludite> would this be the appropriate forum to post an rsync ssh question ??
[13:35] <theadmin> Ludite: Possibly, if it runs on Ubuntu.
[13:36] <Ludite> it does,
[13:36] <theadmin> Ludite: Then go ahead.
[13:36] <ionite> ThinkT510: so it's like just the appearance is different only?
[13:37] <ionite> theadmin: gnome and xfce what's the diff?
[13:37] <ThinkT510> ionite: just the desktop environment is different
[13:37] <theadmin> ionite: ...
[13:37] <DarKMode> guys
[13:37] <Ludite> I have an NSLU2 running lenny 5.0 i use rsync via ssh to backup my home directory to it.  I  have been using passwordless ssh successfully to backup to the server but i managed to break the process. now when the scripot executes its asking for a password and i'm not sure how to fixz this.
[13:37] <bazhang> Ludite, #debian for that
[13:37] <DarKMode> i have some problem setting /etc/network/interfaces
[13:38] <livingdaylight> how do I copy a particular file over instead of an entire directory?
[13:38] <ThinkT510> ionite: you can install whatever you like in both (they use the same repos)
[13:38] <DarKMode> to auto connect
[13:38] <ionite> ThinkT510: i'm using ubuntu now. maybe it's my comp it's quite laggy. would XFCE change that?
[13:38] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,  check 'man cp' theres dozaens of options
[13:38] <theadmin> livingdaylight: Huh? cp /path/to/source /path/to/target
[13:38] <mina2> theadmin: usb_modeswitch? ty searching for it
[13:38] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,  overwrite may be the default.
[13:38] <thrillERboy> thanks theadmin dr_willis I still have the prob, gotta run.. have to catch a train. Will come later, thanks a ton :)
[13:38] <livingdaylight> I'm getting error messages when I simply use 'cp' command
[13:38] <dr_willis> cp -i foo bar   may ask..
[13:39] <ThinkT510> ionite: i can't say for sure, what i can say is that unitu is new (and likely more buggy) xfce has been stable for years
[13:39] <livingdaylight> cp: omitting directory 'Feldenkreis/'
[13:39] <ThinkT510> unity
[13:39] <dr_willis> livingdaylight,  you are using the -R option?
[13:39] <theadmin> livingdaylight: To copy directories, use cp -R
[13:39] <ionite> ThinkT510: alright. change! btw, how i can run EXE files in xfce? install wine?
[13:39] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: tried with and without 'R
[13:39] <ThinkT510> ionite: yes in wine or a windows vm
[13:40] <ThinkT510> ionite: but it is better to find linux alternatives
[13:40] <ionite> ThinkT510: what do u mean linux alternatives?
[13:40] <ionite> ThinkT510: so i d/l the 11.04 LTS?
[13:41] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: sorry, losing my mind.
[13:41] <ThinkT510> ionite: 10.04 is lts, 11.04 is not lts
[13:41] <DarKMode> auto lo
[13:41] <DarKMode> iface lo inet loopback
[13:41] <DarKMode> auto wlan0
[13:41] <DarKMode> iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[13:41] <DarKMode> wireless-essid "Corcoll"
[13:41] <DarKMode> wireless-key s:CCARACAS2011
[13:41] <FloodBot1> DarKMode: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:41] <ionite> ThinkT510: so 11.04 xfce is it buggy? does it uses banshee?
[13:42]  * Guest30065 thinks floodbot1 has a loose clock hand
[13:42] <ThinkT510> ionite: you can install banshee if you want, but it isn't installed by default
[13:42] <ThinkT510> ionite: i've used xfce for years, its very stable for me
[13:42] <ionite> ThinkT510: what's the default player in xfce? would it have any probs with nomodeset in ubuntu?
[13:43] <ThinkT510> ionite: you can install things from the repo, i prefer vlc and audacious
[13:44] <ThinkT510> ionite: i think gmusicbrowser is the default (i've never used it though)
[13:44] <ionite> ThinkT510: alright i'm switching to XFCE. GNOME/UNITY is gd but too buggy or slow for my lousy comp.
[13:44] <Guest30065> oic, my client took away the nick on all but the first line
[13:44] <dr_willis>       ionite  nomdeset is at a lower level of the OS then Xfce, or lxde, or gnome.
[13:45] <dr_willis> ionite,  lxde/lubuntu is the lightest, then xfce/xubuntu , then gnome/unity/kde are the big daddies.
[13:45] <ionite> dr_willis: so as long as it's ubuntu based i'll face nomodeset prob?
[13:45] <dr_willis> ionite,   i found in 11.10 i did not have to mess with nomodeset for my nvidia cards. :)
[13:45] <ThinkT510> ionite: depends on your graphics card
[13:45] <dr_willis> ionite,  ive no idea what your nomodeset problem is.
[13:46] <ionite> dr_willis: it's solved finally. but i guess my p4 can't run unity properly. as it's quite laggy. i'm gonna switch. but i've got no idea which 1 should i swtich
[13:46] <ThinkT510> ionite: lxde is very light and snappy
[13:46] <dr_willis> ionite,  you can install them all to a single machine and just pick what to use at the gdm login
[13:46] <GirlyGirl> ionite: perhaps kde, it is developed to adapt as per system
[13:47] <ionite> dr_willis: really?
[13:47] <ThinkT510> GirlyGirl: kde4 wouldn't run smoothly on a system that struggles with unity
[13:47] <dr_willis> ionite,  of course...
[13:47] <schnuffle> KDE is way to heavy for an old PC
[13:47] <GirlyGirl> ionite: I would say LXDE is a bit too light for p4, more like for older celerons
[13:47] <ionite> GirlyGirl: kde what's it?
[13:47] <dr_willis> I use lxde + awn or some other fancy docs
[13:47] <dr_willis> !kde
[13:48] <coz_> ionite,   what ghz  is your P4?
[13:48] <ionite> dr_willis: so means i'll have several desktop environment but simply based on the same system files?
[13:48] <dr_willis> ionite,  you got it. they are just a layer above the system.
[13:48] <ionite> coz_: 3.0
[13:48] <coz_> ionite,   ok that should be fine,, I am running a 2.8  on this system...
[13:49] <ionite> dr_willis: coz_ GirlyGirl ThinkT510 there are so many desktop environments. how do i know which one is the most suitable for me?
[13:49] <schnuffle> ionite: The problem is not the CPU power it's more the graphics that pose a problem
[13:49] <coz_> ionite,   open a terminal and paste this command      lspci | grep -i vga
[13:49] <ThinkT510> ionite: i can only say try them and see
[13:49] <schnuffle> ionite: best is to try them :)
[13:50] <ThinkT510> ionite: i ended up liking xfce best
[13:50] <guesy> my Ubuntu Machine has a tomcat server running. I am not able to access this tomcat server from an other machine on the network. can someone please help
[13:50] <ionite> coz_: GirlyGirl : ThinkT510 : dr_willis : I just want something that's not buggy like my current GNOME/UNITY ubuntu, it's snappy and run a exe file.
[13:50] <GirlyGirl> ionite: see my pm
[13:51] <coz_> ionite,   I am sure its been suggested that you could just log into the classic session
[13:51] <schnuffle> ionite: I've a old P4 runing Unity without a problem. But I had to buy a 40 euro graphic card
[13:51] <dr_willis> ionite,  start installing and try them out.
[13:51] <ThinkT510> ionite: runninng exe's has nothing to do with the desktop environment
[13:51] <diwic> argh!
[13:51] <ThinkT510> ionite: you can install wine on any desktop environment
[13:51] <dr_willis> ionite,  we are not even mentioning the dozens+ of other window managers that exist out there.
[13:52] <coz_> ionite,  out of curiosity,, open a terminal     type or copy paste this command      lspci | grep -i vga
[13:52] <dr_willis> You could roll your own 'desltop' if you wanted to.
[13:52] <dr_willis> desktop :)
[13:52] <ionite> coz_: 00:06.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5500] (rev a1) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266]
[13:52] <schnuffle> ionite: If you want to check them out just get a 8GB usb stick and create a multi boot env with YUMI. So you can run all different Desktop Env without installing
[13:52] <GirlyGirl> ionite: see my pm
[13:52] <coz_> ionite,  ok the fx5500  is most likely what is giving you issues
[13:53] <ionite> coz_:  dr_willis GirlyGirl  ThinkT510 schnuffle: i've only got a 256MB graphics. so any recommendations?
[13:53] <b0ot> Can I change from lxde to gnome with ubuntu 10.04
[13:53] <ThinkT510> !pm GirlyGirl
[13:53] <dr_willis> ionite,  start installing.. try them...
[13:53] <coz_> ionite,    you could log into classic, or as already suggested ,  install xubuntu-desktop and log into that
[13:53] <ThinkT510> !pm | GirlyGirl
[13:53] <dr_willis> b0ot,  you can install lubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop both at the same time..
[13:53] <ionite> coz_: yes u still rem the fx5500!!! amazing.
[13:53] <schnuffle> b0ot: Yes just install ubuntu-desktop
[13:54] <coz_> ionite,   I have one  sitting around here somewhere :)
[13:54] <b0ot> schnuffle, after I install it how do I switch to it?
[13:54] <dr_willis> b0ot,  at the login screen. theres a menu
[13:54] <livingdaylight> my keyboard doesn't have the backslash key!
[13:54] <schnuffle> b0ot: At the login screen you can choose which to run
[13:54] <ionite> coz_:  i was so frustrated with my FX5500. anyways, now i'm frustrated with the buggy banshee in UNITY and the delay even browsing from tab to tab.
[13:55] <coz_> b0ot,    log off,,, clcik to enter your password,,,  just below on the panel is the sessions menu ,, c hoose from there then put in password and hit en ter
[13:55] <Daghdha> Hello. I run Vboxie on ubuntu. Are there any better virtual machines to run in ubuntu?
[13:55] <bazhang> Daghdha, vbox?
[13:55] <Daghdha> I'mmoderately happy with vboxie. (The ubuntu machine is the HOST btw :)
[13:55] <schnuffle> Daghdha: Better for what purpose
[13:55] <coz_> ionite,  well yes an fx card may not be able to handle Unity's  interface well
[13:55] <ThinkT510> Daghdha: you could try qemu
[13:56] <b0ot> coz_ schnuffle ... how do I install ubuntu-desktop in lxde?
[13:56] <coz_> ionite,  since compiz is running that,, you may have to disable some of the plugins in compiz  to get to a "decent" working environment
[13:56] <Daghdha> Running window
[13:56] <coz_> b0ot,    open a terminal     sudo apt-get install ubunt-desktop
[13:56] <Daghdha> qemu huh.. /me googles
[13:56] <schnuffle> b0ot: open terminal window and enter: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[13:56] <geegeegee> Anyone know of a guide to upgrade to the newest Ubuntu from 10.04?
[13:56] <ThinkT510> !info qemu | Daghdha
[13:57] <coz_> !upgrade
[13:57] <ionite> dr_willis:  schnuffle  schnuffle  GirlyGirl ThinkT510 coz_ : but i only have a 512MB Ram, 256MB FX5500 graphics.  and i need something that doesn't lag like now in UNITY even browsing from window to window and a easy to use environment for a programming idoit like me! i know nuts about SUO apt-get etc etc, it's giving me headaches.  Sorry =X
[13:57] <schnuffle> Daghdha: For me better means OpenVZ or KVM
[13:57] <b0ot> coz_, schnuffle it doesn't appear that this system has apt-get... is that possible?
[13:57] <Daghdha> Hmm
[13:57] <schnuffle> ionite: The lag doesn't come from missing memory it comes from missing 3D support
[13:57] <coz_> ionite,   you could also install unity2d and switch to that,, it will look nearly the same
[13:58] <coz_> b0ot,  are you on ubuntu?
[13:58] <Daghdha> from a quick read i'll stick with VBoxie
[13:58] <rly> Can someone recommend a good time zone display application which shows Europe and the USA?
[13:58] <ThinkT510> !xubuntu | ionite
[13:58] <schnuffle> b0ot: Hmm sure you 're running ubuntu?
[13:58] <coz_> b0ot,     sudo  apt-get ubuntu-desktop
[13:58] <b0ot> coz_, yes... it actually worked... it just didn't tab complete which made me think it wasn't installed
[13:58] <quem> any gnome-phone-manager users? :)
[13:58] <quem> love that convenient shit...
[13:58] <b0ot> apt-get wouldn't tab complete
[13:58] <coz_> b0ot,  ah understood
[13:58] <Daghdha> Was looking for something far superior to justtify the hassle of a switch over. Thanks guys!
[14:00] <bullgard4_> Banshee 2.0.0 > Track Editor > Sorting: What is the effect if I make an entry in the "Sort Track Title:" field?
[14:00] <guesy> ThinkT510: my Ubuntu Machine has a tomcat server running. I am not able to access this tomcat server from an other machine on the network. can you please help me out
[14:00] <ionite> alrighty.  Thanks for all ur helpful inputs!
[14:00] <ThinkT510> guesy: sorry, i have no experience with tomcat; there is a #ubuntu-server channel too
[14:01] <ionite> alrighty.  Thanks for all ur helpful inputs!
[14:01] <schnuffle> guesy: paste following command output: sudo iptables -L      and netstat -tulpen
[14:04] <guesy> schnuffle:    please check your IM
[14:05] <schnuffle> on which port is tomcat runing 8005?
[14:05] <guesy> 8080
[14:07] <guesy> schnuffle: No.. Its on port 8080
[14:07] <schnuffle> guesy: Hmm you have a lot of rules but the first one is Accepting everything. Is that just for debugging purposes?
[14:08] <guesy> schnuffle: this machine runnig tomcat is the development environment... so yeah.. Debugging also.
[14:09] <livingdaylight> I know how to cd forward in a directory; how to cd backwards without starting right at the beginning again?
[14:09] <coz_> livingdaylight,    cd ..
[14:09] <scirvir> Any one know how to open a ole file. I accidently deleted a odt file and I recovered some ole files using foremost.
[14:09] <livingdaylight> coz_: cd.. command not found
[14:10] <coz_> livingdaylight,  put 2  dots  after cd  ,,  so    cd  space  ..
[14:10] <schnuffle> guesy: Okay so apparenlty tomcat is listening on all ip's IPv6 is enabled and the firwall accepts everything, So it has to be something in the tomcat config that prevents you from connecting to tomcat from the network
[14:10] <livingdaylight> coz_: ok, space before making two dots, thanks
[14:10] <coz_> livingdaylight,  yep
[14:10] <m1d4s> i have no nm and bluetooth manager icon at default (the applet is working) how can i fix it (oneiric)?
[14:10] <coz_> livingdaylight,  that should take you back one directory
[14:11] <m1d4s> at ma panel *
[14:11] <guesy> Please excuse me if I am asking dumb questions. But, do you have any idea, to what it is in tomcat ?
[14:11] <ThinkT510> !11.10 | m1d4s
[14:11] <schnuffle> guesy: I'm just checking
[14:11] <greyfiend> vaev: thanks for your help, the random mouse freezes on 11.04 studio on a thinkpad l520 were solved using this line: echo "options psmouse proto=imps"|sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse.conf; sudo modprobe -r psmouse; sudo modprobe psmouse
[14:11] <guesy> schnuffle: Please excuse me if I am asking dumb questions. But, do you have any idea, to what it is in tomcat ?
[14:11] <coz_> livingdaylight,  also if you just type  cd  it should take you directoy to the home directory
[14:12] <livingdaylight> coz_: cd takes me right to the beginning which in this live cd situation is root:ubuntu
[14:12] <coz_> livingdaylight,  ah ok
[14:13] <vaev> greyfiend: awesome :)
[14:13] <dr_willis> command line basics  livingdaylight   http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/cli.html
[14:13] <livingdaylight> dr_willis: thx
[14:15] <ruby_on_tails> how do i turn on oobase ?
[14:15] <ruby_on_tails> i want to import a ms access db
[14:17] <loled> Hi all. Does anyone have the video card or ATI Radeon HD5xxx or HD6xxx?
[14:17] <schnuffle> guesy: tomcat has a server.xml. Open it and search for <Connector port="8080" and change it to <Connector address="<IP_ADDRESS>" port="8080" restart tomcat and try it
[14:19] <ruby_on_tails> anyone knows how can i open an mls file in ubuntu ?
[14:19] <kpettit> what is a mls file?
[14:22] <wongpk> Anyone with Acer Aspire 4930 model?
[14:22] <gamingdroid> Does every user have to have a homde dir?
[14:23] <schnuffle> gamingdroid: no, nut without home no login is possible
[14:23] <schnuffle> *but
[14:23] <bullgard4_> ruby_on_tails: To turn on means here that you first will have to install the associated DEB program package.
[14:23] <AdvoWork> i know my php files use sendmail. any ideas where my sendmail config is on ubuntu? on centos its /etc/mail/sendmail.mc but i cant find anything on my ubuntu server?
[14:23] <ruby_on_tails> bullgard4_: how can i do that ?
[14:23] <ruby_on_tails> i dont know whats the associated deb program package for jet db/mls dbs
[14:23] <bullgard4_> ruby_on_tails: You can use the Synaptic program for this purpose.
[14:24] <scirvir> gamingdroid, no they do not.
[14:24] <schnuffle> AdvoWork: Ubuntu uses Postfix which has a sendmail wrapper so config is under /etc/postfix
[14:24] <schnuffle> AdvoWork: Opps not sure about that maybe it's even still exim
[14:24] <gamingdroid> So without a home dir, the user cannot login which is fine. Do I just leave it blank? I'm setting up a user for apache.
[14:25] <bullgard4_> ruby_on_tails: Please install openoffice.org-base.
[14:25] <schnuffle> gamingdroid: here's the line for the normal apache user: apache:x:48:48:Apache:/var/www:/sbin/nologin
[14:26] <ruby_on_tails> bullgard4i have oobase
[14:26] <ruby_on_tails> i just installed mdb utility
[14:26] <bullgard4_> ruby_on_tails: So what problem is left?
[14:26] <gamingdroid> schnuffle: is it valid to leave the /var/www as blank in that line? like will anything get screwed up?
[14:26] <scirvir> gamingdroid, doesn't apache use the www-data user?
[14:27] <helly^> I'm using VNC to get a GUI on my ubuntu box. On the top bar at the right, I've got 3 red symbols. An arrow , 9 and an A
[14:27] <helly^> Never seen it before, what is it?
[14:27] <schnuffle> gamingdroid: No, you can do it but why not set it?
[14:27] <schnuffle> scirvir: the line was from a centos server, just an example
[14:27] <gamingdroid> schnuffle: for some other stuff I don't want a home dir, or I should set it to a invalid dir
[14:27] <ThinkT510> helly^: 9 is likely numlock and A is likely capslock
[14:28] <ruby_on_tails> bullgard4_: i have oobase and just installed mdb utility
[14:28] <ruby_on_tails> still the mls file wont open
[14:28] <ruby_on_tails> it says jet utility misisn
[14:28] <Hrushikesh> short cuts are not working on ubuntu 10.10
[14:28] <schnuffle> gamingdroid: that's okay
[14:28] <ThinkT510> helly^: the arrow might be scroll-lock
[14:28] <bullgard4_> ruby_on_tails: I do not know any mls file.
[14:28] <ruby_on_tails> standard jet db and then numerous pages with ###
[14:28] <ruby_on_tails> hmm
[14:28] <helly^> Ok, thanks for explaining! :-)
[14:28] <ThinkT510> np
[14:29] <schnuffle> gamingdroid: but you have to take care that you don't use a login shell when you run scripts with that user
[14:30] <schnuffle> gamingdroid: example for you : nobody:x:65534:65534:nobody:/nonexistent:/bin/sh
[14:30] <loled> >Does anyone have the video card or ATI Radeon HD5xxx or HD6xxx?
[14:30] <loled> Probably no.
[14:31] <gamingdroid> schnuffle: why is having a login shell bad?
[14:31] <szal> !anyone | loled
[14:32] <schnuffle> gamingdroid: because a login shell reads its configuration from ~/.profile, ~/.bashrc ..... and when it doesn't exist it fails
[14:32] <daniele> s
[14:32] <gamingdroid> schnuffle: good point! :D
[14:32] <schnuffle> gamingdroid: so it's not bad but will fail :)
[14:33] <szymon_> Hola
[14:33] <schnuffle> szymon_: !sp
[14:33] <szymon_> no PL
[14:33] <szal> !pl | szymon_
[14:34] <schnuffle> szal: thanx
[14:34] <szymon_> ok I am from Poland
[14:35] <guesy> schnuffle: Sorry for the late reply. I did try adding the addres attribute, but it still behaves the same way !
[14:35] <szymon_> Have anybody speak in this forum?
[14:35] <GirlyGirl> szymon_: This is not a forrum its an irc channel
[14:36] <GirlyGirl> szymon_: Ubuntuforums.org for the forum
[14:36] <szymon_> what is the difrance?
[14:36] <iridium> time of response maybe?
[14:37] <schnuffle> guesy: Okay so what I would do is first flush you iptables to make sure that is not in your way, then check the configuration files in /etc/tomcat6, maybe /etc/default/tomcat6. I've no tomcat6 running on ubuntu so I'm not sure how the config is done there
[14:37] <schnuffle> guesy: Do you have selinux or appamor running? Turn it off or to permissive mode
[14:38] <schnuffle> !ask | szymon_
[14:39] <abhishekb> hi i installed ubuntu 11.04 on vm i don t see unity bar
[14:39] <abhishekb> what am i missing ?
[14:39] <berkes> previously the (slow) ubuntu help -reader would allow me to read manpages. The 11.04 one does not seem to offer that. How can I read manpages in unity/11.04 other then "man foo in the terminal"?
[14:40] <mouse> classic
[14:40] <Pici> abhishekb: 11.04 falls back to gnome 2.3 for non-accelerated desktops, you'll need to install unity2d for the unity experience on a vm.
[14:40] <roberto> ciao a tutti
[14:40] <enrique> d
[14:41] <iamanente> What should the size of my /boot partition be on Xubuntu 11.04 x86_64?
[14:41] <abhishekb> so if have 1gb ram core2 duo i ll not be able to use unity :(
[14:41] <schnuffle> abhishekb: the graphics are the problem not the CPU powedr or RAM
[14:41] <Pici> abhishekb: Thats not what I said.  You said you were running it in a virtual machine, VMs don't ually provide accelerated (3d) graphics
[14:42] <abhishekb> ok a gpu is a must
[14:42] <ThinkT510> iamanente: do you need a seperate /boot?
[14:42] <szal> Pici, abhishekb: VirtualBox 4.1 does
[14:42] <iamanente> ThinkT510: Not really, no.
[14:42] <ThinkT510> iamanente: 100mb should be fine
[14:42] <enrique> I hpw wic oubu
[14:42] <abhishekb> actually i was trying on vm then i m gonna replace my windows
[14:42] <iamanente> Cool
[14:42] <Pici> abhishekb: Best thing to do would be to try the LiveCD.
[14:43] <abhishekb> how to get one
[14:43] <szal> !getubuntu
[14:43] <roberto_> ciao a tutti
[14:43] <Pici> abhishekb: The desktop install CD is a live CD, just boot off of it and use the 'Try ubuntu' selection.
[14:43] <ThinkT510> abhishekb: download it
[14:43] <Pici> !it | roberto_
[14:44] <xendras> installed a software gtick  http://www.antcom.de/gtick/  but whenever i execute it gives an error  http://paste.kde.org/105217/
[14:44] <abhishekb> can i replace my window with ubuntu 11.04
[14:44] <xendras> please help me
[14:44] <iamanente> Another thing. When I set the size of a partition in the installer to e.g. 100 or 1000 it says that it's 98 or 998. If I set it to e.g. 107 or 1007 it says 107 or 1007. Why is that?
[14:45] <Pici> xendras: Are you using the version of gtick that is in the repositories?
[14:45] <roberto_> come si fà a scaricare musica qualcuno può dirmelo
[14:45] <ThinkT510> !find gtick
[14:45] <LloydUK> Hello one and all. Is anyone familiar with Ubuntu One? I have windows and the android app but photo's won't sync.
[14:45] <xendras> Pici: i installed it through ubuntu software centre
[14:45] <ThinkT510> !info gtick
[14:46] <sDark> hi
[14:47] <Guest87735> How do you make it so I can see all my files on my C: drive?
[14:48] <ThinkT510> !mount | Guest87735
[14:51] <LloydUK> Hi - is anyone familiar with the Ubuntu One client for windows?
[14:52] <LloydUK> Or even the difference between "My Synced Folders" and "Folders" in the Ubuntu One web page?
[14:55] <chocolates> I left ubuntu upgrading overnight.
[14:56] <chocolates> When I wake up, my screen was locked.
[14:56] <ThinkT510> chocolates: you can change that in the power management settings
[14:56] <fasttab> hi, i'm running ubuntu 11.04 classic, and when i log in it doesn't show the top or bottom bars
[14:56] <chocolates> And the packages are going to take "1 day 13 hours to install"
[14:56] <ThinkT510> !resetpanels | fasttab
[14:57] <chocolates> Is there any way I can refresh?
[14:58] <fasttab> ThinkT510: what?
[14:58] <Incarus6> chocolates, you could cancel the upgrade and finish the upgrade manually with "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[14:58] <schnuffle> fasttab: read the hint from ubottu
[14:58] <fasttab> schnuffle: i did, says gnome-panel no process found
[14:59] <chocolates> fasttab: How do I cancel it?
[14:59] <chocolates> This is an upgrade to 11.04 from 10.10
[14:59] <fasttab> chocolates: haha sorry man i don't know
[14:59] <tbearden> need some assistance w/ upstart in single user mode if someone can help
[14:59] <Incarus6> chcolotes, you meant Incarus6. Upgrading from terminal?
[15:00] <schnuffle> chocolates: How did you start the upgrade console or updatemanager?
[15:00] <daftykins> with ubuntu 10.10, is there a way to enable auto login from an SSH session instead of graphically within gnome?
[15:00] <chocolates> Updatemanager
[15:00] <schnuffle> chocolates: open a terminal get the PID from the updatemanager process and kill it
[15:00] <fasttab> ThinkT510: "!resetpanels" gives "bash: !resetpanels: event not found"
[15:01] <th0r> daftykins: auto login would kind of defeat the purpose of ssh
[15:01] <schnuffle> !resetpanel
[15:01] <ThinkT510> fasttab: gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel
[15:01] <tbearden> help, plz! adding script to '/etc/rc1.d', then when going to 'init 1' the script won't run
[15:01] <daftykins> th0r: trust me there's a reason, just want to know whether it's possible :>
[15:01] <schnuffle> fasttab: so you should do: gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel
[15:01] <chocolates> schnuffle: I have no idea how to do that. Also, what if something gets corrupted? :s
[15:01] <edbian> tbearden: is the script executable?
[15:01] <fasttab> '][oppp []
[15:02] <fasttab> sorry
[15:02] <fasttab> ThinkT510: I did that already, as per the bot. It gives "gnome-panel" no process found
[15:02] <fasttab> schnuffle: I did that already, as per the bot. It gives "gnome-panel" no process found
[15:03] <tbearden> @edbian, file permissions of script, 'lrwxrwxrwx'
[15:03] <tbearden> so that should do it
[15:03] <schnuffle> chocolates: as long as you don't reboot you can clean up, to get the PID: ps aux | grep update should show you the processes, to kill a process: kill -9 <PID>
[15:03] <Incarus6> chocolates, "sudo dpkg --configure -a" will install the remaining packages
[15:03] <th0r> daftykins: it is possible using rsa keys
[15:03] <edbian> tbearden: What is the script called?
[15:03] <szal> tbearden: that's not the script, that's a link to the script
[15:04] <edbian> tbearden: is szal right? (same thought occured to me)
[15:04] <schnuffle> fasttab: what hapens when you logout and login again?
[15:04] <subz3r0> Hi there, im trying to get a beamer of a friend to work. Used the Nvidia drivers and turned on twinview. Problem is that e.g Firefox wont run in fullscreen on the beamer. Firefox wont fit on the screen when we maximize it. Maybe anyone could have a look on his xorg.conf?  http://pastebin.com/pyFYKY0E
[15:04] <fasttab> schnuffle: hang on
[15:04] <fasttab> schnuffle: how do i do that from terminal
[15:05] <chocolates> schnuffle: Is it ok to use system monitor?
[15:05] <tbearden> @szal: permissions of actual script in '/etc/init.d/'
[15:05] <tbearden> lrwxrwxrwx
[15:05] <tbearden> wait
[15:06] <tbearden> @szal: -rwxr-xr-x
[15:06] <tbearden> set wrong one
[15:06] <tbearden> last time
[15:06] <tbearden> but -rwxr-xr-x is correct
[15:06] <asher^> hello. i was wondering if there was a way to specify certain external ips to use based on user/software
[15:06] <edbian> tbearden: What is the file in /etc/rc1.d called?
[15:06] <Guest30065> how did ubuntu get hbernation right out-of-the-box? my debian doesn't do that, what information do I need to duplicate it?
[15:07] <tbearden> @edbian:  file name is 'disk_sync_init1.sh', it's an 'rsync' script
[15:07] <edbian> tbearden: the file needs to be of the same form as the other files in /etc/rc1.d/  SXYscriptname
[15:09] <schnuffle> fasttab: isn't there a logout command, otherwise do a sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[15:09] <schnuffle> chocolates: System monitor for what?
[15:09] <tbearden> edbian: the link name in '/etc/rc1.d' is 'S98disk_sync_init1.sh'
[15:09] <jrib> Guest30065: i don't have a solid answer but my suggestion would be to 1) check for differences in pm-utils and 2) read the ubuntu wiki on hibernation as that may point you in the right direction to look
[15:09] <Narc> Hello everyone. How do I unmount a partition mounted at boot via fstab as a user ? Thanks
[15:10] <edbian> tbearden: Does the script ask for passwords and stuff? (since it's rsync ?)
[15:10] <schnuffle> Narc: sudo umount /mountpoint
[15:10] <jrib> Narc: can the user use sudo?
[15:10] <fasttab> schnuffle: ok, it looks like gnome-panel doesn't start automatically when i log in
[15:10] <chocolates> schnuffle: To kill the processes?
[15:11] <tbearden> edbian:  whenever i go to 'init 1', i get a prompt for the root password just to log back in under single user mod
[15:11] <Narc> schnuffle, jrib: Yes I can use sudo, but I was thinking about a more convenient way. I tried the "user" option in fstab to no avail.
[15:11] <schnuffle> chocolates: Yes if it can do it of course. But you'll need root permissions to do it. Don't know if the System monitor will ask for it
[15:11] <tbearden> edbian: but no prompt to run the script itself
[15:11] <jrib> Narc: I'd try "users"
[15:11] <WallyJ> Hello all... I am trying to install Ubuntu from a USB stick. It freezes during installation on the colorful screen with the circular cursor. Ideas?
[15:12] <edbian> tbearden: Those scripts won't be able to ask for passwords and such.  So if your script needs to interact with the user in any way it isn't going to work as a startup script
[15:12] <Vustom> I'm having trouble setting up a connection to my Proxy server, it's not the server as it works fine when I'm on Windows, if someone could help me fix this I would really appreciate it. Thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1816509
[15:12] <Narc> jrib:  I'll try that, thanks
[15:12] <tbearden> edbian: it doesn't need to interact w/ any user
[15:13] <edbian> tbearden: You just admitted that it needs to ask for a password.
[15:13] <Narc> jrib:  It works, thanks again.
[15:13] <jrib> Narc: no problem
[15:13] <jrib> Narc: and your system boots very fast -_-
[15:13] <drhead> Will there be a dist upgrade tool that you don't have to babysit in the future, because I hate waking up to find the dist upgrade tool stopped halfway because of a dialog appearing.
[15:13] <fasttab> i'll start over. gnome-panel doesn't start automatically when i log in, does anyone know how to fix it? it should be easy, but i'm not experienced...
[15:14] <Narc> jrib:  Haha, no, I just modified fstab and ran mount -a
[15:14] <jrib> Narc: ah :D
[15:14] <tbearden> edbian:  the script doesn't need a password at all
[15:14] <schnuffle> fasttab: have a look http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1604044.html
[15:14] <tbearden> edbian: when i enter single user mode, i have to enter root password in order to get a command prompt again
[15:15] <tbearden> edbian: but the script should be able to run whether i'm logged in with a command prompt or not
[15:15] <edbian> tbearden: sure, that's normal part of single user mode and does not have anything do to with the script.  Can you put something in the file like echo 'some test' >> /path/to/someFile.txt    so we can see that it's running very easily.
[15:15] <edbian> tbearden: It will run before you log in.
[15:16] <tbearden> edbian: i have this at the very beginning of the script, 'touch /disksync-begin'
[15:16] <tbearden> edbian: and it doesn't work
[15:17] <tbearden> edbian: that's the first line of code and that file never gets 'touch'ed
[15:17] <deinspanjer> Hey guys, I'm running 10.04.  I tried to change the display settings to rotate the screen and the monitor went into power save.  I expected that it would prompt me if I wanted to keep the change and automatically revert after a few seconds, but I guess Ubuntu doesn't do that.
[15:18] <deinspanjer> I would really appreciate some help reverting just that one change without doing a full reconfigure of xorg because I don't want to risk messing up the drivers and such.
[15:18] <schnuffle> tbearden: take care that you env is set correctly and don't rely on having the same env as a normal user. F.e. set the PATH variable in your  script. As example look a the scripts in /etc/cron.d
[15:18] <edbian> tbearden: If the link is SXYscriptName and the script it points to is executable then the script should run.  I'm not sure what else might be causing the problem.  Can you run the script manually?  /etc/rc1.d/S99scriptName.sh    ?
[15:18] <deinspanjer> I can shift over to tty1 and log in via console mode without a probme.
[15:18] <G0R> tbearden: you're trying to touch a directory
[15:18] <fasttab> schnuffle: thanks, that worked
[15:18] <Halabund> After my last hard drive crash I tried installing different versions of Ubuntu on my machine several times (about 3 times in a year), but every version that uses grub2 fails to boot with an "out of disk" (not disk space) error.  I get a grub recovery console, after which I keep rebooting from the CD (10 minutes) to google for solutions and rebooting again to find out that they don't work. ...
[15:18] <schnuffle> fasttab: fine
[15:18] <Halabund> ...Does anyone know this issue?  Is it fixed in 11.04?  Is it possible to install 11.04 with grub 1 (not grub 2)?  I need Linux for certain things in my work, but I don't want to waste 2 days again just to find out I simply can't get it installed.
[15:19] <maalac> my network adapter is not working whenever i boot up on battery mode? any ideas how can fix this. Using Ubuntu 10.10
[15:19] <edbian> Halabund: Why do you need grub1 instead of grub2 ? (grub1 cannot boot ext4 partitions I think)
[15:20] <Halabund> edbian, as I said no version of ubuntu using grub2 has ever successfully booted on this computer.  I don't need grub1, just a system that boots.
[15:20] <WallyJ> Ok...So, if I choose to run Ubuntu from my USB stick, it shows the desktop for a brief second, then shows a black screen, then a login screen. If I use "ubuntu" for username and a blank pw, it shows the black screen again, then back to the login screen... looping login screen. Help please
[15:21] <tbearden> edbian:  yes, i can run the file manually, i can either call it directly by it's file name in 'init.d' or by the link name under 'rc1.d'
[15:21] <schnuffle> Vustom: HAve you tried FireFox and set the socks5 proxy?
[15:22] <edbian> Halabund: Well if you install ubuntu 11.04 it's going to put grub2 on there.  I'm sure of any way to get grub1 on an ubuntu 11.04 system.
[15:22] <edbian> tbearden: I'm not sure then :(  Try the env var path
[15:22] <edbian> Halabund: I'm not* sure...
[15:22] <schnuffle> Vustom: And did you run the proy script as normal user?
[15:22] <Halabund> OK, so people don't read through long questions here.
[15:23] <Vustom> schnuffle: Nope, but I'd rather not use Firefox though, but I did use it yesterday for something else while being connected to the proxy and the improvement in speed went up and there was no connection drops.. so many it's the system's proxy that has the problem?
[15:23] <Halabund> Short question: has anyone ever successfully fixed an "out of disk" error on boot?
[15:23] <Incarus6> edbian, this seems to be a known bug to me, see bug 621434 and bug 44730
[15:23] <maalac> my network adapter is not working whenever i boot up on battery mode? any ideas how can fix this. Using Ubuntu 10.10
[15:23] <Vustom> schnuffle: Normal use, just double-clicked.
[15:23] <Vustom> user*
[15:23] <edbian> Incarus6: tell Halabund
[15:23] <Incarus6> edbian, nevermind, I mean 477430
[15:23] <WallyJ> @Halabund. I put up a short one, and that didn't get an answer either. So I thought maybe it needed more explanation
[15:23] <tbearden> schnuffle:  what do u mean by 'env'?  i don't fully understand what u mean by the path variable
[15:23] <Incarus6> edbian, sry, I mean Halabund.
[15:23] <edbian> tbearden: echo $PATH       ;)
[15:24] <Halabund> sorry, didn't see that message!
[15:24] <edbian> Incarus6: no worries :)
[15:24] <schnuffle> tbearden: type env and you will see what I mean
[15:24] <Incarus6> Halabund, it seems to be a known bug to me, see bug 621434 and bug 477430
[15:25] <tbearden> G0R:  when i manually run the script, it does touch the file/directory, actually, i don't think it's a directory, under the permissions, shows this, '-rw-r--r--' .  there's no 'd' before the permissions.
[15:25] <schnuffle> Vustom: chrome doesn't uses the global configuration. Make sure that you select manual proxy config and that you empty any fields but the Socks-Host
[15:26] <stealz> does anyone know if there is a way to make exceptions in trans-inactive?
[15:26] <Vustom> schnuffle: That's how I already have it.
[15:26] <schnuffle> Vustom: Per default HTTP-Proxy is set with localhost for http
[15:26] <Vustom> schnuffle: Huh?
[15:26] <Vustom> schnuffle: You've lost me. :p