[07:39] <hitmanWilly> ok, im really tired cause this is really funny
[07:40] <flaccid> ubuntu-flyingflaccid
[07:40] <Taladan> Gory gutwound?
[07:40] <dazza_afk> shoulda been flaccid fawn maybe...
[07:40] <flaccid> heh
[07:40] <utnubuk> i just burned an iso with k3b, but now the program won't open
[07:40] <flaccid> defying dazza
[07:41] <flaccid> decrying dazza
[07:41] <utnubuk> i mean k3b
[07:41] <flaccid> unbelievabe utnubuk
[07:41] <Taladan> I, for one, would like to see a release named 'Gibbering Mouther'...just because I can't ever say that without chuckling.
[07:41] <hitmanWilly> utnubuk, iso's have to be burned with the RAW option
[07:41] <utnubuk> no no no the iso is fine but k3b wont open back up to burn more stuff
[07:42] <hitmanWilly> utnubuk, ohh, ok
[07:42] <Taladan> utnubuk: open a command line, type k3b and see what errors it spits.
[07:42] <utnubuk> sorry i should state my problems more carefuly
[07:42] <Ahmuck> is there a way to keep kdm from looping ?
[07:42] <hitmanWilly> utnubuk, the iso thing was kind of an auto-response
[07:42] <Taladan> Gasping Grandmas
[07:43] <hitmanWilly> that's the usual issue
[07:43] <utnubuk> hitmanWilly: i see
[07:44] <utnubuk> hitmanWilly: the shell seems to just freeze up on me when i type k3b. its just not doing anything
[07:44] <hitmanWilly> anyway, utnubuk try what Taladan suggested
[07:44] <utnubuk> bah
[07:44] <utnubuk> kk
[07:44] <hitmanWilly> hmm
[07:44] <utnubuk> yeah thats not working :/
[07:44] <Taladan> just freezes?  doesn't try to initialize the program at all?
[07:44] <utnubuk> nope
[07:45] <Taladan> CTRL C then
[07:45] <utnubuk> ok
[07:45] <hitmanWilly> utnubuk, try restarting x then
[07:45] <Taladan> you can try restarting X and if that doesn't work, completely remove k3b and reinstall it.  Maybe something somewhere got munged.
[07:47] <utnubuk> this stuff seems to happen a lot to me - my wireless card works periodically at best
[07:47] <Taladan> utnubuk: you running ndiswrappers for it?
[07:48] <hitmanWilly> wireless in ubu is spotty at best
[07:48] <utnubuk> nope out-of-the-box kubuntu
[07:48] <utnubuk> sometimes it works like a charm and other times it just doesnt do anything
[07:48] <hitmanWilly> actually, in any nix distro
[07:49] <ybot> I run quicken in windows to keep up with my checking account, is there anyway to use this in kubuntu?
[07:50] <Taladan> utnubuk: if you're running the broadcom wireless cards, their chipset isn't very supported yet across linux...you have to use ndiswrapers for it.
[07:50] <utnubuk> ybot: usualy people that want to run windows apps on linux use wine or cedega
[07:50] <Taladan> ybot - check out gnucash, or kmymoney
[07:50] <hitmanWilly> ybot: there's a couple of alternative apps for it too
[07:50] <Taladan> if you're looking for an app that will do checking account stuff.
[07:51] <Taladan> though...gnucash is not all that, um, intuitive.
[07:51] <hitmanWilly> KMyMoney comes to mind
[07:51] <ybot> Where do you find information about this wine stuff?
[07:51] <Taladan> I've played with it some
[07:51] <utnubuk> !wine
[07:51] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:51] <ybot> I have used quicken for 5 years...
[07:52] <Taladan> ybot - kmymoney can handle the quicken files.
[07:52] <utnubuk> but you might want to consider trying out the programs taladan has reccomended
[07:52] <Taladan> wine is...spotty at best.
[07:52] <utnubuk> word.
[07:52] <ybot> Taladan, Ah, so kmymoney will open the data file from quicken?
[07:52] <hitmanWilly> ybot: quicken should probably work in wine, its the heavy duty directx apps that have problems
[07:52] <wile_e8> I just switched from ubuntu to kubuntu.  Anyone want to help me with my "How do I do X in KDE?" questions?
[07:52] <Taladan> and what works on one release...may not run on the next release.
[07:53] <Taladan> ybot - it's supposed to, according to its own documentation.
[07:53] <hitmanWilly> wile_e8, most of its the same
[07:53] <ybot> Taladan, Okay, thats great. Thanks.
[07:53] <Taladan> hope that helps
[07:53] <hitmanWilly> wile_e8, what exactly
[07:53] <Taladan> wile_e8: what exa...
[07:53] <bdgraue> 7j #kubuntu-de
[07:53] <bdgraue> ups
[07:54] <Taladan> hitmanWilly: out of my head dude.
[07:54] <hitmanWilly> heh :)
[07:54] <wile_e8> Well, I can't find a few things.  Like startup programs.  Where do I set up what programs to run on logon?
[07:54] <hitmanWilly> wile_e8, link them in ~.kde/Autostart
[07:55] <hitmanWilly> anything in that directory will run at startup
[07:55] <wile_e8> ok, I'll set that up.  I'll have a few more questions in a couple minutes
[07:55] <hitmanWilly> or just make an executable shell script and put all the commands you want to run in it
[07:55] <Taladan> that's kinda cool, I didn't even know about the autostart stuff
[07:56] <hitmanWilly> Taladan, its not well documented
[07:56] <bill> what can I use to format my compact flash card?
[07:56] <bill> it is corrupt
[07:56] <Taladan> bill - fdisk
[07:56] <hitmanWilly> or mkfs
[07:56] <Taladan> chances are your flash card will mount as an /dev/sda device
[07:57] <Taladan> hitmanWilly: yeah, bill will need that after he partitions it out like he wants it.
[07:57] <utnubuk> i didnt know you could partition flash drives
[07:57] <Taladan> bill: just make sure you don't put something like ext2 on there when the device may be looking for vfat
[07:57] <hitmanWilly> you can partition just about anything
[07:57] <Taladan> utnubuk: sure you can, why not?
[07:57] <Taladan> The system just sees it as a /dev/sd* device
[07:58] <utnubuk> i just never thought of doing something like that, but i can certainly see the advantages
[07:58] <Taladan> Hell, you can even partition floppies...but that's a bit extreme
[07:58] <hitmanWilly> put DSL on a floppy :)
[07:58] <utnubuk> heh
[07:59] <bill> well, I have to apply a custom partition table to it after it is formatted
[07:59] <hitmanWilly> .2 MB swap partition
[07:59] <Taladan> that would have to be really dsl :P
[07:59] <bill> ok, so what do I do with fdisk?
[07:59] <hitmanWilly> actually, the kernel image is way too big for that
[07:59] <hitmanWilly> even trimmed wayyyyy down
[07:59] <Taladan> bill - basically you can list out what partition table you have on there, if you want to destroy the part and create another, just make sure and look at the different partition types
[08:00] <Taladan> hitmanWilly: not at all..Tom's RootBoot runs on 1 floppy
[08:00] <Taladan> There's a lot of single floppy distros out there...there's even one that you can pop into a machine and it makes it a router.
[08:00] <bill> well I mean, you say fdisk
[08:00] <hitmanWilly> wow, nix on a floppy...
[08:00] <bill> is it an app, is it a command?
[08:00] <bill> lol, sry, I am clueless
[08:00] <hitmanWilly> bill, an app
[08:01] <bill> k
[08:01] <hitmanWilly> bill you have to sudo it
[08:01] <Taladan> bill: it's a command at the commandline..an app...at that level..command and app distinction is very fuzzy.
[08:01] <hitmanWilly> and for the love of God, make sure you're doing the right disk
[08:01] <Taladan> heh
[08:01] <Taladan> yeah
[08:02] <Taladan> cause fdisk does not treat user errors very lightly at all
[08:02] <bill> lmao
[08:02] <hitmanWilly> oops, you re-partitioned your HDD, oh well
[08:02] <bill> I was just about to ask, how can I find out where it is located?
[08:02] <bill> cuz I can't just open it since its corrupt
[08:02] <Taladan> bill - are you running serial ata drives or ide hdd's on that box?
[08:04] <bill> lol sry
[08:04] <bill> tv was funny
[08:04] <Taladan> mmhmm
[08:04] <bill> anyways, my hdd is ide
[08:04] <bill> why?
[08:04] <bill> I'm trying to format my CF card that is plugged into a USB reader
[08:04] <Taladan> because, your flash card will come up as /dev/sda
[08:04] <hitmanWilly> bill, you're not running feisty are you?
[08:04] <Taladan> your hard drive will be /dev/hda
[08:05] <bill> whatever 6.10 is
[08:05] <hitmanWilly> Taladan, actually, feisty calls ALL HDD's sd whatever
[08:05] <hitmanWilly> bill, edgy
[08:05] <hitmanWilly> you're good
[08:05] <Taladan> hitmanWilly: you're kidding me
[08:05] <Taladan> wtf
[08:05] <bill> so sudo fdisk sda ?
[08:05] <Taladan> no
[08:06] <Taladan> sudo fdisk /dev/sda
[08:06] <hitmanWilly> Taladan, nope
[08:06] <hitmanWilly> it screwed up my fstab when i upgraded
[08:06] <Taladan> anytime you do an fdisk, make sure and use the full path, for safety's sake.
[08:06] <Taladan> hitmanWilly: no doubt...why would they do such a thing?
[08:06] <hitmanWilly> got me
[08:06] <bill> unable to read sda
[08:07] <Taladan> um..
[08:07] <Taladan> wow
[08:07] <Taladan> um..try, /dev/sda1   maybe?
[08:07] <hitmanWilly> bill, try qtparted
[08:07] <bill> unable to open
[08:07] <Taladan> that's weird.  fdisk should be able to read /everything/ whether it's corrupt or not.
[08:07] <bill> hmmm, ok
[08:07] <hitmanWilly> its a gui frontend for fdisk
[08:08] <bill> qtparted?
[08:08] <hitmanWilly> yeah
[08:09] <Taladan> it may not be installed on his system
[08:09] <flaccid> !qtparted
[08:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qtparted - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:09] <flaccid> !info qtparted
[08:09] <ubotu> qtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu11 (edgy), package size 202 kB, installed size 716 kB
[08:09] <T0uCH> Hi all... i am running Kubuntu by installing kubuntu desktop on Ubuntu.. and now i am trying to install a software in the add/remove ... after the installation it crash and says : The application Adept installer (adept_installer) crashed and caused the signal  11(SIGSEGV)... can someone help me?
[08:09] <flaccid> optional. install it
[08:10] <utnubuk> T0uCH: run dpkg on the command line and it should give you a remedy i think
[08:10] <hitmanWilly> seg fault in adept, nice
[08:10] <utnubuk> or not :P
[08:10] <Taladan> either that or open the command line and apt-get install -f
[08:10] <utnubuk> i forgot how to do it exactly but ive ran into that problem before
[08:11] <Taladan> er
[08:11] <Taladan> sudo that
[08:11] <Taladan> and it'll be right
[08:11] <Taladan> I really have to stop helping people after 2 am my time.
[08:11] <hitmanWilly> Taladan, ditto
[08:11] <utnubuk> 1am here
[08:11] <sonoftheclayr> the ubuntu 6.06 live cd has gparted on it?
[08:12] <hitmanWilly> i dunno, maybe
[08:12] <Taladan> gparted and qtparted are two different beasts though.
[08:12] <bill> well
[08:12] <T0uCH> thats doesn't helpt me much :P
[08:13] <utnubuk> T0uCH: what are you trying to install?
[08:13] <hitmanWilly> T0uCH, try running a memtest, just for curiosity's sake
[08:14] <abortd> anyone know how to kill a program in gnome that doesnt show in the system monitor?
[08:14] <utnubuk> sudo apt-get install [package name]  -> that won't work but it will tell you the command to run to fix it
[08:14] <T0uCH> utnubuk:  whatever what i am installing it does that whith all fyles type or software... but it seems to work for the installation it just bug
[08:14] <hitmanWilly> it started seg faulting on me when my RAM died
[08:14] <bill> qtparted is having trouble
[08:14] <Taladan> abortd: do you know the name of the program?
[08:15] <abortd> gdesklets?
[08:15] <hitmanWilly> abortd: run xkill and click it
[08:15] <Taladan> abortd: if so, open a terminal and ps -ef|grep <program> to get the pid and then type kill <pid>
[08:15] <bill> and by trouble, I mean everytme it goes to partition my CF card, it says it isn't possible
[08:15] <Taladan> or you can type killall <programname>
[08:15] <abortd> whats xkill?
[08:15] <abortd> nm
[08:15] <Taladan> bill - sounds like you have a dead soldier there
[08:16] <hitmanWilly> abortd: an x app to kill stuff
[08:16] <utnubuk> xkill is cool
[08:16] <abortd> thanks
[08:16] <utnubuk> imo
[08:16] <abortd> click time
[08:16] <bill> :(
[08:16] <Taladan> sometimes hardware does go bad
[08:16] <hitmanWilly> abortd: just be careful, it'll kill anything, including the desktop and taskbar
[08:17] <abortd> :) i know
[08:17] <Taladan> trust me, I know...it's a PITA.  But I had to replace my mobo and proc a week or so ago because it just finally gave out.
[08:17] <bill> see, it says its a gig, but its actually 4
[08:17] <hitmanWilly> bill: dead flash chips
[08:18] <bill> damn
[08:18] <bill> it costs 40 bucks to get another one
[08:19] <bill> lol, it's probably fied because its so cheap
[08:19] <hitmanWilly> not bad for 4 gigs
[08:19] <Taladan> you might be able to get gpartd to try and see it, but...I seriously doubt it, as I think gpartd relies on fdisk at the core
[08:19] <Taladan> er
[08:19] <Taladan> gparted
[08:19] <Taladan> however you spell it
[08:20] <to0om> hi, doesn anyone of you know wheter the current kde version in ubuntu edgy supports encrypted removable devices? so will i simply be promted for the password when i plug in my luks encrypted usb stick?
[08:20] <Taladan> and on that note, I think i'm going to bed.
[08:21] <utnubuk> rofl
[08:25] <hitmanWilly> to0om, don't know
[08:26] <hitmanWilly> to0om, give it a shot
[08:28] <hitmanWilly> well, i need some sleep, later
[08:32] <Arami> Anyone know offhand the Konsole command to mount a HD?
[08:32] <utnubuk> mount
[08:32] <utnubuk> ?
[08:33] <flaccid> !mount
[08:33] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[08:34] <flaccid> dang
[08:34] <flaccid> !ntfs
[08:34] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:34] <Arami> Hehe
[08:34] <flaccid> thats not a bad guide - because you might want fstab for perm. mount
[08:34] <Arami> Thankies Flaccid ;)
[08:34] <flaccid> thank utnubuk
[08:35] <Arami> Oh, I didn't see utnubuk, Thank you too :)
[08:39] <chemicalvamp> im having issues connecting my fiesty notebook to my dhcp internet (cunnrently on a windows box)
[08:40] <chemicalvamp> anybody on? (i never used irc on a windows box)
[08:41] <Tm_T> Kite_DH|away: oh please
[08:41] <ubuntu> witam all
[08:42] <Warder> Good evening all
[08:42] <Tm_T> Warder: or morning to us in Europe :)
[08:43] <jtt> Tm_T: where in europe
[08:43] <chemicalvamp> i changed my laptops MAC IP SUBNET to be the same as my towers, but i still cant connect to my dhcp.. any ideas
[08:44] <Tm_T> jtt: Morning? all over the Europe I assume ;)
[08:44] <Warder> one sec, lost my monitors again -.- heh
[08:44] <Warder> ok, thats better
[08:44] <Warder> Evening on the down under side of the wrold. hehe
[08:45] <Warder> alrighty, im having issues getting my monitors configured right
[08:45] <Tm_T> Warder: what is it?
[08:45] <jtt> Tm_T: you said you were in europe, i was wonderng where
[08:45] <Warder> Im currently 'using 1280x1024' but it looks like im using 1600
[08:45] <Tm_T> jtt: Eastern Finland
[08:45] <jtt> Tm_T: ah, ok
[08:45] <sotc|livecd> hello all, it's sonoftheclayr here. i booted up into the ubuntu livecd to mess around with partitions but before i do that i need to backup some stuff but i can't mount any of my partitions
[08:45] <Warder> When i try to load the configuration GUI it crashes on me, so i cant do it that way =/
[08:46] <chemicalvamp> sudo mkdir /mnt/hda1
[08:46] <jtt> sonoftheclayr: are u using sudo
[08:47] <chemicalvamp> sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1
[08:47] <sotc|livecd> let me try that
[08:47] <Warder> ive been in and out of xorg.conf for the last few days, and most of the time ive been locked out of X entirely because of bad config. Usually getitng No Screen errors
[08:47] <chemicalvamp> should work, ive done it a few times
[08:48] <Warder> tho KDE is handling it all a lot better than GNOME was. heh
[08:48] <Warder> Got a radeon 9250 runing 2xCRT if the info helps any
[08:49] <Warder> Any ideas ? lol
[08:49] <sotc|livecd> chemicalvamp: thanks, i was halfway through copying the data to my external hard disk in kubuntu when the power wnet off (my laptop bettery doesn't work)
[08:49] <chemicalvamp> warder, did you do the !ati thing.. i mean completly, your specific driver
[08:49] <chemicalvamp> its near the bottom
[08:49] <Warder> Yeah, specified the right driver.  This happens when I first start up kubuntu
[08:54] <aldin> anyone knows how to have 24bit colors in vncviewr?
[08:54] <sotc|livecd> is there some command line to copy files over so it will skip files already there? gnome justs asks about the folders
[08:55] <fdoving> !away > kite_dh
[08:56] <pollyo> Anyone know what apport is?
[08:56] <fdoving> pollyo: bug reporting system.
[08:56] <neptunepink> sotc|livecd: probably either mv or cp would do it, but I don't know any specifics about them
[08:56] <pollyo> fdoving: Any idea why it is asking for a root password?
[08:57] <sotc|livecd> i just checked out the cp man page but there isn't anything in there about not overwriting files already there
[08:57] <fdoving> pollyo: to access the correct log files i guess.
[08:57] <pollyo> fdoving: Does it detect crashes and attempt to send information?
[08:57] <fdoving> neptunepink, sotc|livecd, cp -u
[08:57] <sotc|livecd> fdoving: thank you!
[08:58] <Tm_T> Kite_DH: you should not use public aways
[08:58] <Warder> Okies, got the drivers, trying to install them, now its not recognising X720. heh =//
[08:58] <Warder> Forgot how i got past it last time
[08:58] <fdoving> sotc|livecd: if you want something more complex rsync rocks :)
[08:59] <sotc|livecd> fdoving: i just need to copy files from my hard disk to an external hard disk
[08:59] <sotc|livecd> don't want to get into complex just yet
[08:59] <Warder> X Server: Xorg 7.2.0
[08:59] <Warder> Detected version of X does not have a matching 'x720' directory
[08:59] <fdoving> sotc|livecd: ok. then stick with cp.
[08:59] <jkjk> If i install feisty now will the beta become the final version via updates nest week ?
[09:00] <fdoving> jkjk: yes.
[09:00] <jkjk> ok cool :)
[09:01] <pollyo> Anyone know what a low latency kernel would be?
[09:01] <pollyo> In addition why my system would go from generic to low latency?
[09:01] <fdoving> Warder: i belive that is this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20/+bug/89793
[09:02] <chemicalvamp> i need to know.. if i change my notebooks MAC IP SUBNET gateway to be the same as my towers (where my dhcp works) should my laptops dhcp work?
[09:03] <fdoving> chemicalvamp: not neccesarily. what is your problem?
[09:03] <chemicalvamp> im at my buddies house, and i cant get my laptop on his dhcp connection
[09:03] <fdoving> chemicalvamp: ok, but it works at your house?
[09:04] <chemicalvamp> btw, ive spoofed my mac address before to get on dhcp, but now its not working (feisty)
[09:04] <chemicalvamp> i plug the cat32 cable into the tower and everything works, but i do it on my laptop and nothing works
[09:04] <fdoving> chemicalvamp: oh.. but the laptop works with dhcp on other networks?
[09:05] <chemicalvamp> ive had nothing but problems with fiestys network device setup.. so im going to say no (so far.. it doesnt even know what to do with my wireless card)
[09:06] <Arami> Hmm, I think I'm having sound problems...I went to the sounds in System Settings to make sure volume was up and such, but there's no sound when I test them. Volume is indeed up, sound enabled...Any ideas?
[09:07] <pollyo> Does anyone have a window pop up that checks "trash" when you start up kde?
[09:07] <mikey> not me
[09:07] <Warder> Hmm, just tried all the ways listed on the page and no luck.
[09:07] <fdoving> chemicalvamp: ok, plug the cable in, open a konsole, (kmenu -> system -> konsole), then run 'ifconfig -a' - is there a eth0 device?
[09:08] <chemicalvamp> fdoving my wireless works on edgy, im sure my wired would too, but i dont know if i could spoof my way into this dhcp with it, i never tried
[09:08] <Warder> root@linserv:~# X_VERSION=710 ./ati-driver-installer-8.28.8.run
[09:08] <Warder> bash: ./ati-driver-installer-8.28.8.run: Permission denied
[09:08] <chemicalvamp> do i HAVE to plug the cable in now?
[09:09] <chemicalvamp> i will losdew internet here if i do
[09:09] <fdoving> Warder: chmod +x ati-driver-installer-8.28.8.run
[09:09] <fdoving> Warder: then try again.
[09:09] <Warder> cheers
[09:09] <fdoving> chemicalvamp: no, not yet. you can do it without the cable first.
[09:10] <fredrik_> Is there plugins for konqueror so i can watch webtv?
[09:10] <chemicalvamp> i get eth0, eth0:avah (never had this in edgy) and lo
[09:11] <fdoving> chemicalvamp: ok, good, then atleast the device is up. now try 'dmesg|grep eth0|head -n2'
[09:14] <chemicalvamp> it changed my mac address back to what it udsed to be
[09:14] <firecrotch> Let's say I want to log in to my home computer (from school) with a GUI.  I know I can forward X over SSH, but is there anything I have to do on my home computer to allow it?
[09:14] <fdoving> fredrik_: yes, there are a few, kmplayer-konq-plugins for example, you can also get konqueror-nsplugins and use regular mozilla/firefox plugins, like mozilla-mplayer, kaffeine-mozilla, mozilla-plugin-vlc, etc.
[09:15] <fdoving> firecrotch: first check that your broadband router is forwarding port 22 to your homecomputer if it's not directly connected to the internet. then install and start a ssh-server, nothing more iirc.
[09:16] <fdoving> chemicalvamp: ok, this is just the system log, it's not real time, does it say what kind of device it is?
[09:17] <chemicalvamp> awe man, no copy pastebin :(( it says sky2 eth0
[09:18] <fdoving> chemicalvamp: ouch, sky2s are no good. i have heard others had problems with the same cards.
[09:18] <firecrotch> fdoving: Also, I'll be accessing it from Windows using putty
[09:18] <fdoving> firecrotch: that's not a problem, that'll work.
[09:18] <firecrotch> Alright, thanks, fdoving
[09:19] <fdoving> firecrotch: not sure how putty handles X forwarding, but i belive it does that pretty well. putty rocks.
[09:20] <firecrotch> fdoving: Looks like there is a checkbox to turn it on
[09:20] <firecrotch> :D
[09:20] <Arami> What the hell >.< The "Align to Grid" option isn't actually aligning the icons to grid O_O
[09:21] <chemicalvamp> so what do i do... it worked fine on edgy.. what would i have to replace to get edgy to fix this
[09:24] <phyerboss> hello, anyone here?
[09:25] <Resister> yep i'm here
[09:26] <Warder> 351 users in this chan, bound to be somebody :) ask away. heh
[09:27] <Resister> bukkake
[09:27] <phyerboss> heh
[09:27] <phyerboss> sorry, stared away for a sec
[09:28] <phyerboss> i reinstalled compiz via synaptic...but it seems like it tries to load up but my window's borders dissapear
[09:28] <phyerboss> i was last told this has something to do with needing a window manager
[09:29] <phyerboss> how do i find one for compiz and use it?
[09:29] <Resister> isn't there already a window manager in kubuntu then
[09:29] <phyerboss> supposedly(not sure what its called*)..its the default one
[09:30] <phyerboss> but im guessing compiz needs a diffrent one
[09:30] <phyerboss> not sure
[09:30] <Resister> mkay hehe
[09:30] <phyerboss> as this is totally new territory for me
[09:31] <ybot> Can somebody please help me get connected to the internet using kubuntu (not currently on that o.s.)?
[09:33] <ybot> I try dhclient eth0...It does some messages...then gives me an error (No Dhcp requests)...then something about leases in database...sleeping.
[09:33] <ybot> Anybody?
[09:33] <Resister> ybot have you filled everything in correctly
[09:33] <phyerboss> ybot you're on a lan or directly connected to a modem?
[09:33] <ybot> I was directly connected to a cable modem.
[09:34] <ybot> I was going to try and use my wireless, but I can't use ndiswrapper.
[09:34] <phyerboss> who is you're isp?
[09:34] <ybot> Ritter communications...local isp.
[09:34] <phyerboss> cable or dsl?
[09:34] <ybot> cable..
[09:34] <phyerboss> hmm, most cable isp's you just hook up n' go
[09:35] <ybot> Thats what I thought.
[09:35] <ybot> sheesh.
[09:35] <phyerboss> all the connection info is supposedly in the modem
[09:35] <ybot> I can't get connected to the internet while using any linux o.s.
[09:35] <ybot> slax, ubuntu, kubuntu, mandriva.
[09:36] <ybot> I have documents after documents, no luck.
[09:36] <Resister> in my case it went faster than in windblows lol
[09:36] <ybot> Really?
[09:36] <Resister> yep
[09:36] <ybot> Heck, I can do anything in windows.
[09:36] <ybot> in like seconds.
[09:36] <Resister> especially ubuntu
[09:36] <phyerboss> lets see...what brand of madem is that?
[09:36] <phyerboss> modem
[09:36] <Resister> well windows is more user friendly
[09:36] <Resister> but so is gnom
[09:36] <Resister> e
[09:36] <Topsun> if the connection info is in the modem linux should work too or not?
[09:36] <Arami> I know how you feel, just in my case it's sound O_o My sound drivers are refusing to load :(
[09:36] <Resister> kde sux imho
[09:36] <ybot> Looks like smc
[09:37] <ybot> I don't understand the reply I am getting with dhclient eth0
[09:37] <Warder> lol, my video drivers are refusing to install =/  heh
[09:37] <ybot> linux has too many problems :/
[09:37] <Topsun> ybot: which reply do you get?
[09:37] <Warder> lol, im enjoying it more than windows
[09:37] <phyerboss> not really...its just diffrent
[09:38] <ybot> Topsun, No DHCP requests.....leases sleeping.
[09:38] <Arami> :P Kubuntu doesn't have a monopolized multi trillion dollar corperation behind it LOL
[09:38] <phyerboss> its the same to me as my 1st time learning win98^^
[09:38] <dawn> i rather have linux problems :))
[09:38] <Resister> ybot linux is just a free OS for professionals lol =) ok, you can learn it, but you have to be a freaking programmer to be able to work with it as good as with windows
[09:38] <Warder> At least when linux is locking me out of my GUI it gives me text instead of a black screen.
[09:38] <jsgotangco> amen
[09:38] <phyerboss> so its just a thing of learning something new
[09:38] <Warder> And gives me the code to be able to fix it
[09:38] <Topsun> ybot: perhaps you have a static ip?
[09:38] <dawn> lol...win98
[09:38] <ybot> Topsun, My ip changes everytime I disconnect/reconnect.
[09:39] <Warder> Dynamic
[09:39] <Arami> So that'd be no, dynamic IP XD
[09:39] <dawn> ybot: do you have a dhcp router enabled?
[09:39] <Resister> windows 2k Professional was the best windows I've everhad lol
[09:39] <dawn> yes w2k was great, and it still is
[09:39] <Topsun> ybot: ok and do you know where your login data is  stored? or do you have special programs for windows to connect?
[09:39] <ybot> dawn, yes.
[09:39] <Warder> I was running 2k3 for a while. was nice but i had a shitload of video issues
[09:40] <Warder> But im getting those even now. heh
[09:40] <ybot> Topsun, What login data are you referring to?
[09:40] <Warder> FC5 wasnt even picking up my video card at all
[09:40] <crazy_penguin> Good morning all!
[09:40] <dawn> lol, i run 2k3 in vmware on kubuntu
[09:40] <Warder> Hello crazy_penguin
[09:40] <dawn> my boss said ubuntu is junk
[09:41] <Resister> @Warder linux sux in drivers rofl,, it doesn't even support my cam out of the box
[09:41] <dawn> lol, what he know
[09:41] <Topsun> ybot: some isp's restrict login with a ppp-layer so you need user name and password to establish a connection to the internet
[09:41] <Warder> lol, most windows sucks, too
[09:41] <dawn> boss has issues using outlook
[09:41] <Arami> Morning crazy :)
[09:41] <ybot> Topsun, I have seen nowhere to enter that information in kubuntu.
[09:41] <Resister> @Warder agreed, it fucks up your system lol xD
[09:41] <Topsun> ybot: that does not matter, do you have such login data?
[09:41] <Warder> And i have a shitty card(s) anyways. lol
[09:41] <ybot> Topsun, YEs.
[09:42] <Warder> Radeon 9250 and an MX 440
[09:42] <dawn> windoze requires reinstall every 6 mon - 2 yrs
[09:42] <MuJ> lol lol lol.. awww how cute
[09:42] <Resister> I have a laptop, so it's all crap xD
[09:42] <Arami> 2 years? O_O
[09:42] <Arami> Oi
[09:42] <Warder> i was re-installing every few months. lol
[09:42] <Arami> I wouldn't wait 2 years...
[09:42] <Topsun> ybot: ok, then you have to setup supposedly a pppoe connection
[09:42] <dawn> haha..
[09:42] <Arami> Possibly 6 months, yeah.
[09:42] <Resister> brb
[09:42] <Warder> System becomes unstable and such
[09:42] <fdoving> !offtopic
[09:42] <dawn> I have a desktop out to 2 years
[09:42] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[09:42] <ybot> Topsun, That is done, how?
[09:42] <dawn> but its having issues
[09:42] <Warder> Although i did go 2 months on XP without shutty down at all. heh
[09:43] <Arami> 2 years would make me cry :(
[09:43] <Warder> y=ing
[09:43] <dawn> ok doving..
[09:43] <dawn> :)
[09:43] <fdoving> thanks. :)
[09:43] <dawn> np, I figured its 3am what the heck
[09:44] <Warder> Architecture: i686 (32-bit)
[09:44] <Warder> X Server (OVERRIDEN BY USER): Unknown X Window
[09:44] <Warder> Detected version of X does not have a matching '710' directory
[09:44] <Warder> You may override the detected version using the following syntax:
[09:44] <Warder>      X_VERSION=<xdir> ./ati-driver-installer-<ver>-<arch>.run [--install]
[09:44] <Warder> =/
[09:44] <Warder> ah, nevermind
[09:44] <unix_infidel> anyone know of an ubuntu tutorial that shows you how to use ntfsclone to backup windows system partitions?
[09:44] <Warder> i missed the x i think
[09:44] <Topsun> ybot: sudo pppoeconf
[09:44] <flaccid> !pastebin > Warder
[09:44] <Arami> Lewl
[09:45] <Warder> heh, sorry :$
[09:45] <Arami> flaccid be here! O_o
[09:45] <Arami> Quiet, but here!
[09:45] <ybot> Topsun, Okay, i will try that.
[09:45] <ybot> thanks
[09:45] <fdoving> unix_infidel: this does not look so bad: http://alma.ch/blogs/bahut/2005/04/cloning-xp-with-linux-and-ntfsclone.html
[09:46] <dawn> unix_infidel: you mean the entire disk?
[09:46] <dawn> oh wait you said partitions
[09:46] <Warder> bbs, restarting x
[09:46] <Arami> So someone poke my problem then :( I can't hear any sounds, and Kaffeine tells me "All audio drivers failed to initialize!" :(
[09:46] <dawn> there is a really great utility cd called digiwiz, something...
[09:47] <fdoving> !sound | arami
[09:47] <ubotu> arami: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[09:47] <unix_infidel> dawn: jus the system partition.
[09:47] <Resister> im back
[09:47] <unix_infidel> dawn: i just need a simple no nonsense way to backup windows to my OS X server.
[09:47] <unix_infidel> and linux is as simple and no nonsense as it gets.
[09:48] <flaccid> scp
[09:48] <flaccid> thats what i'd use
[09:48] <Arami> Erg :( The sound system is enabled, give Arami some credit...
[09:48] <dawn> I am not sure try a knoppix live c?
[09:48] <dawn> *cd
[09:48] <fdoving> Arami: seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting ?
[09:49] <Arami> I'm reading them now...
[09:49] <warder> Hmm. Loaded my drivers (finally) and now its still doing the same thing. Cant change res using the Monitor and Display tool, and its also the wrong res
[09:50] <fdoving> warder: tried envy?
[09:50] <fdoving> !envy | warder
[09:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about envy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:50] <fdoving> !info envy
[09:50] <ubotu> Package envy does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[09:50] <fdoving> gah.
[09:50] <unix_infidel> flaccid: scp?
[09:51] <warder> Looks like thats for nVidia drivers
[09:51] <fdoving> warder: http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html  - and maybe the graphics guys in #ubuntu-effects have more clues about this.
[09:51] <warder> Im using ATI
[09:51] <fdoving> warder: it's for both.
[09:51] <warder> Ah, cool
[09:52] <Arami> Well, I'll remain without sound O_O I'd have to google define: everything on that page.
[09:53] <flaccid> unix_infidel: secure copy
[09:53] <flaccid> you can get winscp to do it from the win client to the os x server
[09:53] <Topsun> Arami: do you have completely no sound or only no sound daemon sound?
[09:53] <flaccid> or other way round if you set up ssh on the winbox
[09:53] <unix_infidel> flaccid: oh, yea, i'll be using simple cifs or scp to transfer the files.
[09:53] <Arami> Topsun: No sound, period.
[09:53] <unix_infidel> its the actual imaging with ntfsclone process i'm curious about :P
[09:54] <unix_infidel> i cant seem to find a half decent program to d it.
[09:54] <Topsun> Arami: is the correct sound driver loaded?
[09:54] <Arami> Topsun Kaffeine gives me an error saying All Audio Drivers Failed
[09:54] <MarcoPau> do you guys know how to avoid ifdown eth0 + ifup eth0 every time I boot up kubuntu in order to make my router work?
[09:54] <flaccid> unix_infidel: so you basically want a free program to image the windows disk
[09:55] <unix_infidel> flaccid: ntfsclone seems promosing.
[09:55] <unix_infidel> promising*
[09:55] <flaccid> does that run on the windows box or the remote server ?
[09:55] <Topsun> Arami: may you test to play a wave file with 'aplay filename'?
[09:55] <unix_infidel> cant find a really good tutorial though.
[09:55] <unix_infidel> flaccid: it runs on the linux live cd i'm going to boot off of.
[09:55] <flaccid> ah sweet
[09:55] <unix_infidel> which is then going to export it to a server over scp or cifs.
[09:56] <flaccid> but the live cd is being run on the windows box to get the image from the disk local?
[09:56] <unix_infidel> flaccid: of course, where else?
[09:56] <Arami> Topsun: I don't think I have any wave files on here, I was testing it using the "Ubuntusax.ogg" that came with it.
[09:56] <flaccid> unix_infidel: i misunderstood sorry
[09:57] <flaccid> unix_infidel: i guess you don't actually have a problem anyway
[09:57] <unix_infidel> flaccid: nope, just looking for a recommendation.
[09:57] <flaccid> oh
[09:58] <flaccid> norton ghost
[09:58] <Topsun> Arami: aplay can only play voc, wav, raw or au
[09:58] <unix_infidel> flaccid: ghost doesnt run on a linux live cd :p
[09:59] <flaccid> that was a requirement?
[09:59] <unix_infidel> in a linux chan.
[09:59] <flaccid> i must of misread
[09:59] <flaccid> lol where is that stated?
[09:59] <Topsun> shortly afk
[09:59] <flaccid> you are asking for windows support in a linux chan anyway
[10:06] <unix_infidel> flaccid: no i'm asking for linux support in a linux chan.
[10:07] <flaccid> to backup a windows disk?
[10:07] <flaccid> sorry you mean only a linux program to do the job
[10:07] <unix_infidel> flaccid: its just data on a ntfs partition, last i checked, i was using linux to do the dirty work.
[10:07] <unix_infidel> yeesh.
[10:07] <flaccid> can you let me know if that program you mentioned is good then pls :)
[10:08] <flaccid> the ntfsclone
[10:08] <Arami> flaccid, you have any ideas on my sound problems? :(
[10:09] <flaccid> what are they Arami
[10:09] <Arami> flaccid: I have no sound, and apparently the sound drivers fail to initilize, I just tried putting my Aerosmith CD in to see if it will play and I got nothin' :(
[10:10] <flaccid> um i don't know much about sound on linux and its poorly documented
[10:10] <flaccid> !sound
[10:10] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[10:11] <lupul> !guarddog
[10:11] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[10:12] <Arami> Flaccid: Yeah :( it's enabled, and that webpage is like greek to me :P
[10:12] <flaccid> ah well
[10:12] <flaccid> this is one of the problems with linux
[10:14] <Arami> No music for me :( What sucks is, I used to be able to listen to music.
[10:15] <Cosmo_> I have such a hard time finding good wallpaper, too many nature shots
[10:17] <Arami> Flaccid: I've just tried restarting the sound system, but it's not letting me have access to the CD? It's saying I need root O_O Is there a way to make it so I don't need root to access the CD?
[10:19] <wilman> hey guys
[10:19] <Arami> Hello wilman :)
[10:19] <wilman> Arami: hey man
[10:19] <flaccid> Arami: what is the output of the command groups
[10:20] <wilman> so xine cannot find a plugin for MRL dvd
[10:20] <flaccid> !dvd
[10:20] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[10:20] <wilman> hey man thx
[10:20] <Arami> Flaccid: Output of the command groups?
[10:21] <flaccid> Arami: yes goto console under the user you are trying to open the cdrom with and type groups<enter>
[10:21] <pollyo> Does it matter if you switch between synaptic and adept ?
[10:21] <flaccid> pollyo: no
[10:22] <pollyo> Anyone know why my system states from the startup menu that it is loading lowlatency and is asking for the generic restricted modules?
[10:22] <Arami> Flaccid: admin heh
[10:22] <flaccid> Arami: add yourself to the group cdrom
[10:22] <pollyo> If it actually loaded the lowlatency wouldn't it want the lowlatency restricted modules?
[10:23] <Arami> Flaccid: and how do I do that? O_O
[10:24] <flaccid> i think its in system settings - advanced - users and groups
[10:24] <Black_Monkey> is it possible (and advisable) to update to a 2.6.20 kernel on edgy?
[10:24] <flaccid> otherwise use usermod
[10:24] <ybott> Topsun, I tried the pppoeconf.  No luck. It says access concentrator did not respond. *shrug*
[10:25] <Arami> Flaccid: move my secondary or primary group?
[10:25] <flaccid> i remember your group issue Arami
[10:25] <flaccid> you shoud have a group named the same as your user as a primary group
[10:25] <Arami> flaccid: Indeed :(
[10:25] <Arami> Flaccid: yep.
[10:26] <wilman> hmm the funny thing is that i have already installed all packages like dvdcss dvdread etc
[10:26] <flaccid> then these secondary groups i recommend if you are admin: adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[10:26] <se7en> doese someone use virtulBox ... i used vmware before doese anyone know the different
[10:27] <Arami> Flaccid: Ok, so I should be able to access the CD now?
[10:27] <waylandbill> se7en: similar. google could tell you the differences.
[10:28] <flaccid> in theory yes, Arami. i can't predict the future..
[10:28] <se7en> thanks waylandbill i did google they are quite simular
[10:28] <waylandbill> se7en: vmware player is in the multiverse
[10:28] <Arami> Flaccid: New error :( "Device doesn't have read permissions for this account, Check read permissions on device."
[10:29] <waylandbill> !info vmware-player
[10:29] <ubotu> vmware-player: Free virtual machine player from VMware. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.2-2 (edgy), package size 11602 kB, installed size 31336 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[10:29] <flaccid> Arami: google that one Arami.
[10:29] <Arami> Flaccid: Ok
[10:32] <abattoir> dhq: could you turn public away messages off, please?
[10:33] <Arami> Flaccid: Humm, the sites are all showing things about changing the file's ownership...Do you know the Konsole command for that?
[10:33] <flaccid> chown
[10:35] <Arami> Flaccid: syntax? chown <usergroup> <file>?
[10:36] <flaccid> always read the man entry
[10:36] <flaccid> man chown
[10:36] <flaccid> however, here is an example: sudo chown flaccid:admin /tmp/myfile.txt
[10:36] <Arami> QWonderful, got it.
[10:37] <Arami> Yeah, I did it, just...differently.
[10:37] <flaccid> k
[10:39] <Linux_Galore> mkdir cabdump && cd cabdump && wget http://download.microsoft.com/download/f/5/a/f5a3df76-d856-4a61-a6bd-722f52a5be26/PowerPointViewer.exe && cabextract PowerPointViewer.exe && cabextract ppview.cab && cp *TTF *TTC ~/.fonts && cd .. && rm -rf cabdump
[10:39] <Linux_Galore> oops wrong channel
[10:42] <Arami> Well, I have an answer to Topsun's question :P lol
[10:42] <Topsun> Arami: im back. which answer do you have?
[10:43] <Arami> Topsun: Lemme paste bin it :P one sec.
[10:44] <Topsun> ybott: how do you setup your connection in windows?
[10:44] <Topsun> Arami: ok
[10:44] <Arami> Topsun:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15501/
[10:45] <Topsun> Arami: so no card is installed yet
[10:46] <Arami> Topsun: O_O But I have a card...
[10:48] <Topsun> Arami: may you paste the output of 'lspci' regarding your soundcard and of 'lsmod | grep snd' ?
[10:49] <Arami> Topsun: Ok, those are two seperate outputs you want me to paste?
[10:50] <Topsun> Arami: yes command 1 'lscpi' and command 2 'lsmod | grep snd'
[10:51] <Arami> Topsun: Here, I seperated them with the commands titling them at the top - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15507/
[10:52] <Topsun> thanks
[10:52] <giordano> ecchinma
[10:53] <Topsun> Arami: line 8 shows the details about your soundcard
[10:53] <holycow> hey
[10:54] <holycow> what is the metapackage for installing kde on ubuntu?
[10:54] <Arami> Topsun: Yeah, so...It's there...
[10:54] <posingaspopular> kubuntu-desktop
[10:54] <holycow> dank!
[10:54] <posingaspopular> iirc
[10:54] <posingaspopular> kde-desktop
[10:54] <posingaspopular> something
[10:55] <holycow> *hmm*
[10:55] <posingaspopular> kubuntu-desktop
[10:55] <flaccid> kubuntu-desktop
[10:56] <Arami> Topsun: If the card is there then where is this error coming from? :(
[10:59] <tarelerulz> I have movies in rar and I want media player that will see inside the rar to the whole movie  is there one or way to do that
[10:59] <flaccid> tarelerulz: don't think so
[10:59] <Topsun> Arami: perhaps because previously you tried to play a cd, let me test something
[11:00] <tornetftp> hi everybody
[11:00] <posingaspopular> !hi
[11:00] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[11:00] <Arami> Topsun: Go for it.
[11:00] <tarelerulz> That is ok I guess I will just unrar them and copy them over to my computer
[11:01] <posingaspopular> tarelerulz: unrar them and you can play them in almost any player
[11:01] <posingaspopular> you cant do both
[11:02] <tarelerulz> Well, other then that one nit pick I am doing great playing movies. Now that I know to put the .sub and idx file in there too
[11:04] <flaccid> Arami: what does sudo lsmod | grep snd return?
[11:04] <reldruh> does anybody know if the feisty fawn release candidate was released?
[11:05] <Topsun> Arami: might you download somewhere a small wave file and try again to play it with aplay?
[11:05] <Arami> Flaccid: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15507/ scroll down. It's below the first one.
[11:05] <Arami> Topsun: My Aerosmith tracks are waves
[11:06] <Topsun> Arami: shure? but then you can't access them by /dev hdd. you have to navigate to /media/cdrom/...
[11:06] <flaccid> Arami: heh what to do now. there is no decent documentation on alsa/arts/kde sound system and what the heck they are all for
[11:07] <Arami> Topsun: So can't I just drag one of the tracks onto home? :P
[11:07] <Arami> Topsun: Or cp whatever
[11:08] <Topsun> Arami: you can extract cd tracks to wave files
[11:10] <Topsun> Arami: i basically want to test if alsa works. next step is arts
[11:10] <holycow> back
[11:10] <holycow> danke guys, kubuntu desktop it is
[11:10] <Arami> Topsun: OK, so you DON'T want me to access the CD to run the wave file?
[11:11] <Topsun> the point is, you need a small wave file to test alsa with aplay
[11:11] <flaccid> Topsun: how do you test alsa?
[11:11] <flaccid> oh
[11:11] <Topsun> aplay wavefilename
[11:12] <Arami> Topsun: Ok, it's almost done copying.
[11:12] <Topsun> Arami: doesn't matter if it's ripped from a cd or a small and free wave file from the internet
[11:13] <Arami> Topsun: Ok, what's the command you want me to use? aplay?
[11:13] <Topsun> exactly
[11:13] <flaccid> lol read what he said
[11:14] <pollyo> Has anyone here tried landell?
[11:15] <Arami> Topsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15513/
[11:18] <c0ldfr3ak> ok I have a quick question
[11:18] <Cosmo_> how do I activate the kicker applets?
[11:18] <Topsun> Arami: ok, again not working. Then check the alsa device list with 'less /etc/asound.names'
[11:19] <c0ldfr3ak> I am trying to mount 2 Hard drives... one is an NTFS filesystem and the other is FAT32... I need to mount them so I can read and Write on it
[11:19] <flaccid> !ntfs > c0ldfr3ak
[11:19] <dhq> !kubuntu
[11:19] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[11:19] <c0ldfr3ak> I read that website already Flaccid
[11:19] <flaccid> great
[11:19] <c0ldfr3ak> we have it reading we just need it to write
[11:20] <Arami> Error /etc/asound.names: No such file or directory
[11:20] <c0ldfr3ak> any advice?
[11:20] <flaccid> c0ldfr3ak: that page details write access
[11:20] <c0ldfr3ak> i did the steps it told me to do yet it still will not let me write or change permissions
[11:20] <flaccid> anyway
[11:21] <flaccid> is it in fstab?
[11:21] <c0ldfr3ak> aye
[11:21] <flaccid> aye?
[11:21] <c0ldfr3ak> Yes...
[11:21] <Topsun> Arami: the drivers are loaded but alsa has not initialised them :/
[11:21] <flaccid> what part of the word are you from?
[11:21] <flaccid> what is the fstab entry
[11:21] <c0ldfr3ak> Canada
[11:21] <flaccid> ok
[11:21] <c0ldfr3ak> hold on one second
[11:21] <Arami> Topsun: So how do I prod asla to initilize them?
[11:22] <c0ldfr3ak> do you want me to C&P the entry in the room or PM it to you?
[11:22] <flaccid> paste it here
[11:22] <c0ldfr3ak> k
[11:22] <flaccid> it should be 1 line
[11:23] <c0ldfr3ak> /dev/hdc1 /media/hdc1 ntfs ro,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0
[11:23] <flaccid> you have the ro option
[11:24] <flaccid> which is read only
[11:24] <flaccid> change it to rw
[11:24] <flaccid> however you need to be on a kernel that supports ntfs write
[11:24] <c0ldfr3ak> i was reading the site wrong lol... Where it said accessible I was reading Writable... lol Sorry its 5:30AM here
[11:24] <flaccid> you may need dif masks too and you should look up the recommended mask for ntfs write.
[11:24] <flaccid> ok
[11:25] <c0ldfr3ak> one second ill change it to RW and test it out
[11:25] <tarelerulz> Have any of you installed moblock?
[11:25] <pollyo> coldfr3ak: Have you looked at ntfs-3g?
[11:25] <flaccid> c0ldfr3ak: note that ntfs write is experimental and i don't know if your kernel supports it
[11:25] <tarelerulz> Ntfs-3g works great from what I can see. I use it all the time
[11:25] <flaccid> sweet
[11:26] <c0ldfr3ak> Flaccid: Aye...  :-P
[11:27] <flaccid> persistant what sorry
[11:27] <c0ldfr3ak> pollyo: are you still available.. I haven't tried NTFS-3g yet... care to assist please?
[11:27] <flaccid> !de
[11:27] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:28] <flaccid> zu starten vas?
[11:28] <c0ldfr3ak> errr... nevermind lol... Flaccid do you use ntfs-3g?
[11:28] <syssi> sorry, i talk english now. :-P
[11:28] <flaccid> c0ldfr3ak: no i don't
[11:28] <c0ldfr3ak> oh pollyo is back...
[11:28] <c0ldfr3ak> pollyo: could you assist me with ntfs-3g?
[11:28] <pollyo> coldfr3ak: ntfs-3g is in the repos.
[11:28] <syssi> i've tried to boot (edgy, dapper, feisty) in persistent-mode (with casper-rw etc).
[11:29] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: If I recall correctly.
[11:29] <flaccid> oh mode
[11:29] <flaccid> !info ntfs-3g
[11:29] <ubotu> ntfs-3g: Third generation Linux NTFS driver. In component universe, is optional. Version 20060920-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 30 kB, installed size 112 kB
[11:29] <phoenix> any one know how to build beryl-svn? ... i have the src but i am not sure how to get it to compile i have tried ./configure, sh, bash, make
[11:29] <syssi> but whether release i take..  with "persistent" it doesn't boot up.
[11:29] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: I can share my setup from fstab.  I do not know much other then what I got working.
[11:30] <c0ldfr3ak> am I able to get it through the synaptic?
[11:30] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: You should be able to get it from synaptic.
[11:30] <c0ldfr3ak> Ok thank you I will run a quick search
[11:30] <syssi> the system executes /scripts/init-bottom; done
[11:30] <flaccid> pollyo: you have ntfs write going on that fstab entry?
[11:31] <c0ldfr3ak> Its not showing up in synaptic
[11:31] <syssi> afters that it hangs... no reaction
[11:31] <flaccid> c0ldfr3ak: enable universe
[11:31] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: You may have to enable additional repos.
[11:33] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: Settings > Repositories
[11:33] <Topsun> Arami: please try 'modprobe -r snd_intel8x0 && modprobe snd_intel8x0' (unloading and loading of the kernel module so we can see if there are some problems
[11:33] <flaccid> i thought arami had a ac97 nvid
[11:34] <Arami> I need to do this in root?
[11:34] <c0ldfr3ak> everything is turned on in the repos
[11:34] <Topsun> flaccid: seemes that the chip is from intel
[11:34] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: It is listed in universe on my synaptic.
[11:34] <flaccid> weird
[11:34] <Topsun> Arami: yes
[11:35] <flaccid> considering dmesg said otherwise
[11:35] <Topsun> or you use sudo ...
[11:35] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: What did you enter for your search term?
[11:35] <c0ldfr3ak> ntfs
[11:35] <Arami> Topsun: Intel? I use amd...
[11:35] <Topsun> Arami: intel sound chip
[11:35] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: just put ntfs-3g it will bring it right up.
[11:35] <Arami> Topsun: Well, I'll trust you O_o
[11:35] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: (should)
[11:35] <nrg88> hi
[11:35] <nrg88> anyone speek spanish here?
[11:35] <Topsun> flaccid: do you have the dmes link?
[11:36] <c0ldfr3ak> I did type ntfs-3g and nothing was appearing
[11:36] <Arami> Topsun: Done.
[11:36] <flaccid> was this it?http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15507/
[11:36] <nrg88> please, does anyone speak spanish?
[11:36] <flaccid> !es > nrg88
[11:36] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: Maybe you have to reload the lists
[11:37] <nrg88> thanks
[11:37] <flaccid> np
[11:37] <Topsun> Arami: no errors?
[11:37] <Arami> Arami: No errors, just did it and gave me back the command line
[11:37] <Arami> Oops
[11:37] <Arami> Not to me O_O to you!
[11:37] <Arami> lol
[11:37] <c0ldfr3ak> reloaded the lists and still nothing
[11:37] <Topsun> flaccid: no that is the list of pci devices and the list of loaded modules
[11:37] <flaccid> !repos > c0ldfr3ak
[11:38] <flaccid> Topsun: oh well dmesg would list the same hardware
[11:38] <flaccid> Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a2)
[11:38] <flaccid> is that the soundcard.. coz its not intel
[11:38] <Arami> flaccid: Hence my surprise, I'm pretty sure I have an nVidia audio controller.
[11:39] <Arami> Flaccid: but I trusted O_O lewl, Topsun knows more about this stuff than I do.
[11:39] <flaccid> me too
[11:39] <Topsun> then the false driver may be loaded
[11:39] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: You reloaded and check to ensure the setting in: Settings > Repositories > Ubuntu Software has the Community-maintained Open Source software (universe) checked.
[11:39] <flaccid> required drivers look loaded
[11:39] <Topsun> but don't know the module name for nvidia sound chips
[11:39] <Topsun> can't be
[11:40] <flaccid> snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_pcm
[11:41] <Arami> Topsun: was this what you were asking Flaccid for? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15513/ <--
[11:41] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: Here is the line I used in my fstabs you might want to look at it and make note for when you get ntfs-3g.
[11:41] <Topsun> that are virtual devices. i have a via ac97 sound chip and there is also a driver for that loaded
[11:41] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0
[11:41] <Arami> Topsun: Ah
[11:42] <c0ldfr3ak> is there a link i can get ntfs-3g without synaptic
[11:42] <Arami> Topsun: So...I'm still confused, the drivers are there...but not working?
[11:42] <Topsun> Arami: no dmesg is the current kernel output, but i don't think that we can find a solution there or with it
[11:42] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: You'll have to make changes according to your setup.  You can also do a search on google for ntfs-3 and the website will have information on it.
[11:42] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: Try apt-get install ntfs-3g
[11:42] <Topsun> Arami: there are drivers but for intel sound chips not for nvidia
[11:42] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[11:42] <Arami> Topsun: O_o well, I've not got Intel anything I don't think.
[11:43] <c0ldfr3ak> Sudo: apt: command not found
[11:43] <pollyo> BRB.. I have to reboot
[11:44] <flaccid> c0ldfr3ak: read about enabling repos. you need universe for ntfs-3g
[11:44] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: Did you add a space?
[11:44] <c0ldfr3ak> I did... I have everything enabled on Universe...
[11:44] <Arami> Topsun: So what do I need to do then? O_o
[11:44] <c0ldfr3ak> E: Couldn't find package ntfs-3g
[11:45] <flaccid> then what is the output of sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g c0ldfr3ak
[11:45] <c0ldfr3ak> E: Couldn't find package ntfs-3g
[11:45] <flaccid> c0ldfr3ak: run sudo apt-get update first
[11:45] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: You are using synaptic right?
[11:45] <Topsun> Arami: good question, look there http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0505.2/1614.html
[11:45] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: What did you click to enable universe?
[11:45] <c0ldfr3ak> universe is enabled on everything lol
[11:45] <Topsun> seemes to be an intel sound chip bought by nvidia
[11:46] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: What do you mean enabled on everything ?
[11:46] <c0ldfr3ak>  sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[11:46] <c0ldfr3ak> Reading package lists... Done
[11:46] <c0ldfr3ak> Building dependency tree... Done
[11:46] <c0ldfr3ak> E: Couldn't find package ntfs-3g
[11:46] <c0ldfr3ak> danny500@Netkiller:~$
[11:46] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: It is enabled or not it isn't an --on-- everything type of setting.
[11:46] <flaccid> !pastebin > c0ldfr3ak
[11:46] <flaccid> you arlready said that c0ldfr3ak, don't paste and on't repeat!
[11:46] <c0ldfr3ak> I apologize
[11:47] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: What did you click to enable universe within synaptic?
[11:47] <Arami> Topsun: I see, so what does that mean for me being able to have sound?
[11:48] <c0ldfr3ak> What exactly needs to be on universe within synaptic
[11:48] <Topsun> perhaps a driver problem :/ but i'm googling for some more information
[11:48] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: How did you enable universe within synaptic?
[11:48] <c0ldfr3ak> i clicked it... then clicked edit... the made it universe :D
[11:48] <flaccid> and did you update the list?
[11:48] <Topsun> Arami: it's strange because your snd_intel8x0 isn't used by alsa
[11:49] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: Could you talk me through the clicks to enable universe?
[11:49] <flaccid> im assuming not at this point
[11:49] <Arami> Topsun: I see.
[11:50] <c0ldfr3ak> I clicked on "Settings" then I clicked on "Repositories" Then a new window opened I clicked on the items listed clicked on "Edit" then I put in Universe
[11:51] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: Then you clicked Close or did you click revert?
[11:51] <flaccid> i've answered your questions c0ldfr3ak care to answer mine
[11:51] <c0ldfr3ak> flaccid; sorry I didn't see your question... yes I reloaded the list
[11:52] <c0ldfr3ak> pollyo: there is no revert
[11:52] <Topsun> Arami: please check the output of 'aplay -l'
[11:52] <flaccid> c0ldfr3ak: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:52] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: When you select universe in the bottom of the box there should be Revert or Close.
[11:52] <Arami> aplay: device_list:221: no soundcards found...
[11:52] <Arami> Topsun:^^^ That was to you, sorry.
[11:52] <c0ldfr3ak> pollyo: Theres "Cancel" and "Ok"
[11:53] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: Make sure you click Close.
[11:53] <Topsun> k
[11:53] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: Perhaps in my version it is different. I have feisty.  Maybe it isn't in your repos.
[11:54] <pollyo> Does anyone with an earlier version know if ntfs-3g is in the repos?
[11:54] <flaccid> the pastebin will show the problem
[11:54] <c0ldfr3ak> im doing the paste bin now... One second
[11:54] <Topsun> Arami: last check with 'cat /proc/interrupts' to pastebin
[11:55] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: What version of ubuntu do you have installed?
[11:55] <Arami> Topsun:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15518/
[11:55] <c0ldfr3ak> 6.06
[11:56] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions/ThirdPartyNTFS3G
[11:56] <c0ldfr3ak> I posted on pastebin
[11:56] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: That website will explain what you have to add to the repose.
[11:57] <flaccid> actually i don't think it is
[11:57] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: It has three repos listed that will work with 6.10
[11:57] <flaccid> and that could be because of kernel support
[11:57] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: Choose ONE of them to add.
[11:57] <c0ldfr3ak> Pollyo: I am using 6.06 not 6.10
[11:57] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: Then follow the easy instructions.
[11:58] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: That page covers 6.06 , 6.10 , and 7.04
[11:58] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: It has you covered.
[11:58] <flaccid> follow pollyo's pasted guide c0ldfr3ak, you must be on dapper or something
[12:00] <c0ldfr3ak> Flaccid: Aye, Dapper
[12:00] <flaccid> it must of been added to edgy or feisty due to the new kernels
[12:01] <Topsun> Arami: is there a output with '/usr/bin/asoundconf list' ?
[12:02] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: ntfs-3g is about 5 cut and pastes away from being on your system if you follow that page.
[12:02] <c0ldfr3ak> yea I found it now lol
[12:02] <c0ldfr3ak> brb
[12:02] <Arami> Topsun: yes
[12:02] <Arami> Topsun:
[12:02] <Arami> Names of available sound cards:
[12:02] <Arami> CK804
[12:02] <Arami> UART
[12:02] <pollyo> brb..
[12:02] <Topsun> great
[12:03] <c0ldfr3ak> danny500 says hi
[12:03] <c0ldfr3ak> cold is my buddy, I'm having him fix my ubuntu to make it read nfs in exchange for me downloading movies for him :D
[12:03] <liam> hi guys does anyone know anything about edgy?
[12:03] <c0ldfr3ak> google it
[12:04] <liam> i just need to know if it supports r has libmtp
[12:04] <qsu> is anybody using opera
[12:04] <liam> qsu, i am
[12:04] <c0ldfr3ak> and t3h fr3ak is back
[12:04] <c0ldfr3ak> and another problem
[12:05] <qsu> how are realplayer movies playing in your browser liam
[12:05] <Arami> Topsun: This is good news?
[12:05] <liam> qsu: dont think ive ever tried them, where you viewing from
[12:05] <Topsun> Arami: let's try '/usr/bin/asoundconf set-default-card CK804'
[12:05] <c0ldfr3ak> Flaccid: you still here?
[12:06] <flaccid> yeah
[12:06] <c0ldfr3ak> I got an error
[12:06] <c0ldfr3ak> E: ntfs-3g: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[12:06] <flaccid> is that the only part of the error?
[12:06] <c0ldfr3ak> no
[12:06] <Arami> Topsun: Did it, now what?
[12:06] <flaccid> ok
[12:06] <c0ldfr3ak> E: fuse-utils: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[12:06] <qsu> well my problem is liam, that it wants to play them with kaffeine, i use the kaffeine plugin with opera to play streaming in the kaffeine player
[12:06] <Arami> Topsun: Try and play a song?
[12:07] <qsu> but kafffeine gives me an error, i dont think that it can play realplayer
[12:07] <flaccid> c0ldfr3ak: pastebin the whole error incuding the command you ran
[12:07] <liam> qsu: so it wont play them in the browser?
[12:07] <c0ldfr3ak> that is the whole error
[12:07] <Topsun> Arami: yes
[12:07] <qsu> yep
[12:07] <flaccid> c0ldfr3ak: i don't know why the script exited then
[12:08] <Arami> Topsun: well, there's no error, and it looks like it's playing, but still no music.
[12:08] <Arami> Topsun: We've made progress, there's no error, so maybe it's that other one it listed?
[12:09] <Topsun> Arami: maybe the alsamixer can help us. sound output can be muted
[12:10] <Topsun> but you can also try the other device ;)
[12:10] <liam> qsu: sorry i cant get them to play at all in mine
[12:10] <Arami> Topsun: So, what do I do then?
[12:10] <c0ldfr3ak> Flaccid: I will pastebin what I did in the Terminal now
[12:10] <qsu> oke but you have to install realplayer first liam
[12:10] <qsu> then you can play them
[12:10] <Topsun> Arami: start the 'alsamixer'
[12:11] <liam> i already have that
[12:11] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: Did you get ntfs-3g?
[12:11] <c0ldfr3ak> k Check paste bin now
[12:11] <Arami> Topsun: Uhm, I typed it in Konsole and it said no such command?
[12:12] <Arami> Topsun: Oh, typo, sorry.
[12:12] <Arami> Topsun:alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[12:12] <Topsun> Arami: check if there are any controllers with MM at the bottom
[12:12] <Topsun> hmmmm
[12:12] <Topsun> no aplay error but no device for alsamixer?
[12:13] <c0ldfr3ak> pollyo: Check pastebin
[12:13] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak:  Did you get ntfs-3g installed?
[12:13] <c0ldfr3ak> Pollyo: Check pastebin
[12:14] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: For what?
[12:14] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: What are you attempting to do?
[12:14] <c0ldfr3ak> i got an error when installing
[12:14] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: What is the link?
[12:14] <Topsun> Arami: unfortunately i have to go to lunch :/
[12:15] <c0ldfr3ak> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15521/
[12:15] <Arami> Topsun: Np, thanks for your help, I'll probably be here if you're coming back.
[12:15] <Topsun> Arami: ok, cu
[12:16] <Arami> Topsun: /wave Thanks for all your help so far! :) Hopefully I'm still here when you get back and we can find a solution.
[12:17] <livenicely_> hello
[12:17] <c0ldfr3ak> so?
[12:17] <Arami> Hello livenicely :)
[12:17] <livenicely_> i cant listen sound when i play .dat or vcd file in keffiene. i am using kubuntu 6.10
[12:18] <Dellilah> yay i successfully installed vlc without my boyfriend's help :D
[12:20] <Arami> Dellilah, congratulations :) It's always wonderful to be independant from them >.< This I know all to well.
[12:20] <Tm_T> Dellilah: nice :)
[12:20] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: I do not know how to add repositories in versions prior to 7.04.  I suggest you look at the following page:
[12:20] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
[12:20] <livenicely_> how i can listen vcd sound in keffiene
[12:20] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: Or better yet: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#head-155b53308911d4d3869b3650856a41550f57f891
[12:21] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: It looks like you might need help on this topic.
[12:23] <c0ldfr3ak> I wonder what I've been doing the last half hour lol :P
[12:23] <pollyo> Anyone here have beryl running on legacy nvidia?
[12:25] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: Once you get the repository in the list it isn't going to be difficult to install and setup.
[12:25] <c0ldfr3ak> i have it in the list
[12:25] <c0ldfr3ak> it's already installed but it said that it's not configured
[12:26] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: Ok
[12:26] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: Did you run the ntfs-config?
[12:27] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: You have to install it through the suggested: sudo apt-get install ntfs-config
[12:27] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: From the website I shared
[12:27] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: Then: gksu ntfs-config
[12:28] <c0ldfr3ak> sudo apt-get install ntfs-config
[12:28] <c0ldfr3ak> Password:
[12:28] <c0ldfr3ak> Reading package lists... Done
[12:28] <c0ldfr3ak> Building dependency tree... Done
[12:28] <c0ldfr3ak> E: Couldn't find package ntfs-config
[12:28] <c0ldfr3ak> now what?
[12:29] <edgy> Hi, How can I let my laptop beeps when the battery is about to discharge fully, please?
[12:29] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: You were able to get the ntfs-3g but not the ntfs-config that is in the same repository?
[12:29] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: Ok
[12:30] <c0ldfr3ak> no
[12:30] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: In a console type "locate ntfs-3g" (without the quotes)
[12:30] <c0ldfr3ak> nothing happened
[12:31] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: I must not be understanding what you mean by "its already installed but it said that it's not configured"
[12:32] <Max1982> morning, i'm wondering if someone could tell me if i should take the leap from edgy to feisty now i'm getting impatient - & is it as easy as renaming my repos list entries from edgy to feisty?
[12:32] <c0ldfr3ak> bagock
[12:32] <c0ldfr3ak> Ihad to get that out in the open
[12:33] <edgy> Max1982: I am using it now and it's pretty nice for me
[12:34] <MidMark> I was seeing this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades on kubuntu network upgrade at the end it says "Repeat the initial steps (1-4)." but first you have to change from "edgy" to "feisty" isn't?
[12:34] <Max1982> edgy: and i just need to rename the entries in my repositories list yeah?
[12:34] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: Your pastebin didn't show you install or change anything.
[12:34] <c0ldfr3ak> question. If I download and install 7.04 will it be able to read the NTFS system right off the bat?
[12:35] <edgy> Max1982: I haven't tried that since I did a fresh install but I guess it's better to use update-manager
[12:35] <c0ldfr3ak> ok I just checked to see if it's iinstalled and it is
[12:35] <c0ldfr3ak> according to synaptic
[12:36] <edgy> Max1982: update-manager -c -d
[12:36] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#head-a86dddc6826cec4a3847d8441b24051d07b8dc64
[12:36] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: System > Admin > Software Properties
[12:37] <c0ldfr3ak> it's done already
[12:37] <c0ldfr3ak> it's installed
[12:38] <c0ldfr3ak> but it said it couldn't be configurated
[12:38] <Max1982> ok here we go then....fingers crossed :D
[12:38] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: : Ok
[12:38] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: Do you know the partition that is NTFS?
[12:38] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: Do you know where you want to mount it?
[12:39] <tuco> Guys is there a real need to install an antivirus in Kubuntu if you don't have a server?
[12:40] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: http://ubuntuos.wordpress.com/2006/08/02/howto-write-to-windows-ntfs-drive-from-ubuntu-ntfs-3g/
[12:41] <pollyo> tuco: It looks like the av software checks for windows virus.
[12:42] <pollyo> tuco: I have klamav / clamav setup on my machine and f-prot they both appear to check for windows virus signatures.
[12:42] <tuco> I mean I run on dual boot xp/kubuntu and sometimes I would like to run a scan for security. Is there a simple antivirus I can use in Kubuntu?
[12:42] <tuco> Ah ok
[12:42] <pollyo> tuco: I use them to check my ntfs and my wine areas.
[12:42] <tuco> I tried to install klamav/clamav once but got confused
[12:42] <pollyo> tuco: Take a look at klamav
[12:42] <tuco> yes
[12:43] <pollyo> tuco: I didn't have much trouble.  getting klamav to work.
[12:43] <pollyo> tuco: I do not recall the setup at this time though.
[12:43] <tuco> I install klamav first and then clamav after, or only one is necessary?
[12:44] <Tm_T> tuco: klamav is frontend to clamav, so you need both
[12:44] <pollyo> tuco: Klamav is the GUI portion for clamav.
[12:44] <tuco> So install clamav first and then Klamav right?
[12:44] <c0ldfr3ak> whats the command to config ntfs-3g
[12:45] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: gksu ntfs-config
[12:45] <pollyo> c0ldfr3ak: That will run the config
[12:45] <danny500> ok
[12:46] <danny500> all it did was ask for my password then nothing else happened is that good?
[12:46] <posingaspopular> danny500: in refrence to?
[12:46] <danny500> the config
[12:47] <pollyo> danny500: Didn't give you any error?
[12:47] <posingaspopular> uh if you did the right command, then yea sometimes there is no outputin terminal
[12:47] <Max1982> QUIT [upgrading to feisty...Nervous]
[12:47] <danny500> I told it to config the ntfs thingy and then it asked for my password then nothing else happened
[12:49] <steven_> hello
[12:49] <deian> hi there
[12:49] <deian> anyone here know where i can find a guide on installing nvidia driver on fesity?
[12:49] <steven_> can anybody help with my kubuntu randomly freezing?
[12:49] <posingaspopular> !anyone
[12:49] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:49] <posingaspopular> !nvidia
[12:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:50] <steven_> anyone lease?
[12:50] <steven_> please i mean
[12:50] <posingaspopular> !anyone | steven_
[12:50] <ubotu> steven_: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:51] <posingaspopular> steven_: what's the issue?
[12:51] <Arami_Away> lewl
[12:51] <steven_> i did a fresh install last night and the whole system will freezeup and i have to press the reset button
[12:51] <steven_> can freeze anytime
[12:52] <posingaspopular> where/when? install of which release?
[12:52] <deian> maybe you got a duff copy on ur DVD/CD
[12:53] <deian> did u check the checksum, and burn at the slowest rate?
[12:53] <posingaspopular> i would just reinstall. if it's 6.10,then you are out of luck, because 6.10 is autrocious imho
[12:54] <deian> i really can't find flash for firefox guys
[12:55] <deian> does any one feel helpful?
[12:55] <posingaspopular> !flash
[12:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:55] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[12:55] <deian> for feisty?
[12:55] <deian> !flash !feisty
[12:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flash !feisty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:55] <posingaspopular> deian: ask in #ubuntu+1
[12:55] <posingaspopular> iknow the answer is super easy
[12:55] <posingaspopular> i cant remember it
[12:56] <Contrast> Greets, everyone...
[12:56] <deian> well i tried before, i installed all sorts of things but still not there
[12:56] <posingaspopular> or search for gnash
[12:57] <posingaspopular> !hi
[12:57] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[12:57] <solomon_> flash in in others, if you're using adept...the package name is ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:59] <shawn34> is it possible to install kde alongside gnome? i want to try it out? will it be able to easily remove it if i don't like it?
[01:00] <shawn34> i guess i could just run a live cd
[01:02] <posingaspopular> shawn34: you dont want gnome trust me
[01:02] <frojnd> can someone please tell me what's wrong with my smb.conf cause XP user can't look into my folders. It shows a message that he must enter username and password. I don't wanna to have my shares under password. Even though that thus XP user is also user in my system, I created it with the same user name and password as he has in his XP. I also created samba user also the same as XP user details. This is the smb.conf
[01:02] <frojnd> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15524/
[01:02] <posingaspopular> just run a live cd if you want to try it out
[01:02] <shawn34> posingaspopular, why?
[01:02] <shawn34> ive only ever really used gnome
[01:02] <shawn34> so its kinda just what im used to
[01:02] <shawn34> whats better about it?
[01:03] <posingaspopular> well i just like kde. im not too sure about the in depth technological differences, but i know i like kde much better. xfce is good to use too.
[01:05] <solomon_> as Snoop Dogg said at last years grammy's (and this is a quote), "KDE is the shizzle my nizzle"
[01:05] <solomon_> ok, i might have made that up, but he would say it if he only knew
[01:05] <shawn34> lol
[01:05] <shawn34> anyone have beryl running on kde?
[01:05] <shawn34> how is it?
[01:05] <shawn34> different from beryl on gnome?
[01:06] <solomon_> i believe it's just as buggy either way, but I could be wrong ;)
[01:07] <rjb> hi, i'm on amd64 and with 2.6.17-11 kernels, ndiswrapper no longer works for me
[01:08] <rjb> with 2.6.17-10 all is fine
[01:08] <rjb> can anyone comment?
[01:11] <rjb> has no one seen (or better yet, solved) the same problem?
[01:11] <richardh_> Hello everyone...anyone familiar with swap partition issues (post install!)?
[01:13] <mrigns> my fonts look horrible, i tried the mstcorefonts but it still looks not as it should
[01:14] <rjb> richardh_: what sort of issues?
[01:14] <warder> bbl, re-installing to reset this video issue -.-
[01:15] <rjb> richardh_: there shouldn't be any, unless your hd is broken
[01:15] <mrigns> is there a common wy to fix the appearance of my fonts?
[01:15] <richardh_> rjb: well, I had this problem that arose after the edgy upgrade...swap not recognized
[01:15] <richardh_> rjb: I remedied that by doing swapon etc...adding new UUID to fstab
[01:16] <frojnd> !samba
[01:16] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:16] <richardh_> rjb: now it's recognized, but somehow isn't used effectively...
[01:16] <mrigns> !fonts
[01:16] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[01:17] <rjb> richardh_: what makes you think so?
[01:17] <blekos> hi, do u have anything to suggest for battery monitoring? the power manager tool doesnt seem to work too well
[01:17] <blekos> i'd like smg that wil display time remaining (aprox.)
[01:18] <richardh_> rjb: well, the symptoms of an unrecognized swap partition surface again: CPU gets hot, system very slow...and swap usage halts at 1%
[01:19] <rjb> richardh_: what do `free' and `swapon -s' tell you?
[01:20] <richardh_>  /dev/sda5                               partition       1477940 17364   -1
[01:20] <richardh_> but strangely...the amount of used swap space is almost always exactly the same...
[01:21] <richardh_> that's what made me think it somehow stops being used, even though it should be for the system's stability
[01:21] <rjb> exactly, as in up to the single kB?
[01:22] <richardh_> rjb: yes
[01:23] <richardh_> well, I think once it went up a bit more...but after that the system became unstable again...
[01:23] <richardh_> it seems to me like it's a software thing rather than a hw thing...
[01:23] <Contrast> Greets, everyone...
[01:23] <Linux_Galore> richardh_: I had the same problem, did you update ?
[01:23] <Contrast> I'm having a rather hard to explain problem with KDM. Could anyone be so kind as to check the video here: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8648764226375102899 and tell me if they know of a solution?
[01:24] <richardh_> linux galore: I indeed did...
[01:24] <richardh_> linux galore: if you mean from dapper to edgy
[01:25] <rjb> richardh_: that's more weird than whatever i've seen
[01:26] <richardh_> rjb: good to know it at least has a freakiness factor ;)
[01:26] <rjb> i'd have a close look at the more recent files in /var/log
[01:26] <rjb> other than that, i don't think i can help you, sorry
[01:26] <richardh_> rjb: I first thought it was an ACPI Fan problem...but the missing swap partition sort of makes me think it's really a software thing
[01:26] <richardh_> rjb: well, thanks for your time though
[01:28] <richardh_> linux galore: how did you solve the problem?
[01:28] <knoppix> hi everyone!
[01:28] <knoppix> could I be so bold as to ask someone to send me their /etc/init.d/kdm file
[01:28] <knoppix> I accident overwrote mine :(
[01:29] <knoppix> hi mrigns, do you have a file called /etc/init.d/kdm at all?
[01:29] <mrigns> lol yes
[01:30] <knoppix> mrigns,  :)
[01:30] <knoppix> mrigns, can you send it to me at all?
[01:30] <knoppix> I accidently overwrote mine :(
[01:30] <mrigns> lol
[01:31] <knoppix> oh I don't know what happened there :(
[01:32] <knoppix> sorry mgrin can you try again :o)
[01:32] <knoppix> I think there is something wrong with my computer :(
[01:32] <rjb> richardh_: btw, is your box a laptop?
[01:33] <knoppix> mrigns, can you /join #paste and put /etc/init.d/kdm contents in there?
[01:33] <mrigns> ...
[01:33] <chijin> !paste
[01:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:33] <rjb> richardh_: and how much ram does it have?
[01:34] <knoppix> thank you ubotu, rjb I am now at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ can someone please paste their /etc/init.d/kdm file here ... many thanks :)
[01:34] <blekos> i have default language GB, and use the repos of Gb, my secondary language is greek, but when i installed kpowersave (via synaptic) i see the dialogs in greek. y is that?
[01:35] <rjb> ohwell, gotta run. some other time
[01:36] <knoppix> thank you solomon_  but that does not work for some reason, mrigns already tried this :(
[01:36] <knoppix> Hopefully the pastebin will work else I may be stuck :(
[01:37] <yodo> hi
[01:37] <solomon_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15538/
[01:38] <knoppix> solomon_, thank you so much !
[01:38] <solomon_> np
[01:39] <blekos> is there away to change the messages that appear from one langue to another?
[01:45] <mrigns> my fonts look really terrible, totally unclean and ugly
[01:49] <frojnd> umount: /media/USB Disk: device is busy   How can I umount usb stick??    or how can I kill proccesses that are related to usb!?
[01:49] <blekos> i have default language GB, and use the repos of Gb, my secondary language is greek, but when i installed kpowersave (via synaptic) i see the dialogs in greek. y is that?
[01:50] <crazy_bus> I'm trying to figure out usenet and how to read things and download binaries.  I got a .nzb to test with Klibido and added it.  But the files from the file are queued.  Do I need to add a server to start them?
[01:50] <solomon_> frojnd: are u in a directory on the usb stick?
[01:51] <frojnd>  I was but I move ahead and it's still the same message
[01:52] <solomon_> just cd back to your home directory and try again
[01:52] <solomon_> check all the consoles
[01:53] <dettoaltrimenti> is there a program that can mount bin and cue files in ubuntu?
[01:54] <chijin> dettoaltrimenti: you can convert it to iso
[01:55] <flaccid> then mount http://linux.about.com/od/kubuntu_doc/a/kubudg28t07.htm
[01:55] <flaccid> !iso
[01:55] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[01:56] <dettoaltrimenti> how do I convert bin/cue to iso
[01:56] <Tm_T> !cue
[01:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cue - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:56] <Tm_T> hmh
[01:57] <fdoving> !bchunk
[01:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bchunk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:57] <fdoving> !info bchunk
[01:57] <ubotu> bchunk: CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-1 (edgy), package size 12 kB, installed size 68 kB
[01:57] <fdoving> !info bchunk | dettoaltrimenti
[01:57] <ubotu> dettoaltrimenti: please see above
[01:57] <Nullbyte> Hay guys, when is feisty going to be released?
[01:57] <fdoving> !feisty | nullbyte
[01:57] <ubotu> nullbyte: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[01:59] <lucas__> Does anyone built/tried xserver 1.3 with free ati drivers?
[01:59] <dettoaltrimenti> ah thank you
[02:03] <frojnd> how can I delite samba user?
[02:06] <dettoaltrimenti> is there an option with the mount command to create the folder where you tell it to mount if it doesn't exist?
[02:08] <Cugel> detto: don't think so.
[02:08] <Cugel> Maybe force mount?
[02:09] <Contrast> I'm having a rather hard to explain problem with KDM. Could anyone be so kind as to check the video here: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8648764226375102899 and tell me if they know of a solution? (The movement starting at the 5 second mark is from moving the mouse to the edge of the screen, not from the camera moving.)
[02:09] <Contrast> Here's my xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15540/
[02:13] <lucas__> Contrast: Really don't understand your problem ?
[02:14] <lucas__> I watch several times your video
[02:14] <Contrast> lucas__: Someone else who I explained the problem to suggested my virtual screen size is bigger than the actual screen size.
[02:16] <solomon_> Contrast: did u edit that xorg.conf by hand?
[02:16] <Contrast> lucas__: At the login screen, the screen itself is at the proper resolution, but the actual login screen seems to be at a larger resolution. Moving the mouse cursor to the edges of the screen "moves the screen."
[02:16] <Contrast> solomon_: Nope.
[02:17] <lucas__> ok
[02:17] <solomon_> I'm pretty sure you have the modes backwards
[02:17] <solomon_> cuz it's gonna go thru em until it finds one that works
[02:17] <Contrast> What I don't get is why it only occurs at the login screen. It seems to be an X problem, but shouldn't that mean the problem would persist after I login?
[02:18] <fdoving> Contrast: can you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log  and /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[02:18] <Contrast> And if it were an X problem, wouldn't there be a bit of screen flickering between the login screen and the KSplash Screen?
[02:20] <Contrast> fdoving: My xorg.conf is in the pastebin link above. Here's my Xorg.0.log: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15546/
[02:21] <fdoving> Contrast: thanks, i'll have a look.
[02:21] <Contrast> fdoving: Thanks.
[02:21] <MaDiNfO_> hi
[02:21] <sonoftheclayr> hi
[02:21] <Aikurn> hi
[02:21] <MaDiNfO_> can anybody helpme with a epson R200 ?
[02:21] <solomon_> ok, but what i'm suggesting is that the modes have to go from highest to lowest, because if X finds one that works, it's gonna use it, in this case 640x480
[02:22] <fdoving> Contrast: i can't see the log in any of them. xorg.conf is in both.
[02:23] <Contrast> fdoving: Whoops, sorry. Got the two windows mixed up. Sorry, one sec...
[02:23] <MaDiNfO_> can anybody helpme with a epson R200 ? installing it ? i found no drivers on driver selection
[02:23] <Contrast> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15547/
[02:23] <Contrast> There ya' go
[02:25] <MarcoPau> do you guys know how to avoid ifdown eth0 + ifup eth0 every time I boot up kubuntu in order to make my router work? Till a while ago I didn't need to do that...
[02:25] <fdoving> Contrast: what resolution is your tv running at when kdm starts?
[02:25] <fdoving> Contrast: 1440x900?
[02:25] <lucas__> MaDiNfO_: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Epson-Stylus_Photo_R200
[02:26] <Contrast> fdoving: The TV itself is at 1280x720, the resolution that I use. KDM appears to be using something greater than that though.
[02:26] <lucas__> MarcoPau: Do you have knetworkmanager running ?
[02:26] <MaDiNfO_> lucas__: thats rpm driver only :(
[02:26] <MaDiNfO_> fedora 6 added my printer auto
[02:26] <MarcoPau> lucas__: no clue
[02:27] <fdoving> Contrast: ok. so could the "real" size of the KDM window be 1440x900, just a litte bigger in all directions?
[02:27] <MaDiNfO_> kubuntu only failing on that
[02:27] <lucas__> MaDiNfO_: Your can use alien to convert your rpm in deb
[02:27] <flaccid> boo hooo MaDiNfO_
[02:27] <flaccid> :p
[02:27] <Aikurn> My ide devices have disappeared from /dev under feisty, does anyone know how to get them back?
[02:27] <MarcoPau> lucas__: I don't even know what that is... I didn't run anything like that, unless it's a daemon?
[02:28] <lucas__> MarcoPau: in the K menu your have a tool named network manager
[02:28] <fdoving> Aikurn: you can't, they are all /dev/sd* now,
[02:28] <Contrast> fdoving: That sounds about right.
[02:28] <fdoving> Contrast: ok.
[02:28] <lucas__> networkmanager is the deamom
[02:28] <lucas__> knetworkmanager interface it
[02:28] <pakillo> hola
[02:28] <lucas__> MarcoPau: Are you on edgy ?
[02:29] <fdoving> Contrast: ok. the max resolution of your tv is 1280x720 right?
[02:29] <pakillo> algn espaol?
[02:29] <fdoving> !es | pakillo
[02:29] <ubotu> pakillo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:29] <Contrast> fdoving: That's not the max res., but that's what I use.
[02:29] <fdoving> Contrast: that's what you -want- to use?
[02:30] <Aikurn> fdoving: but there's only one /dev/sd* device and it's not the one I've lost :s
[02:30] <Contrast> Umm, well, it's what I do use. It's just not what KDM appears to be using.
[02:30] <Timmmm> Hi, does anyone have a copy of gflashplayer 7 (not 9) lying around? I can't find it anywhere on adobe's website.
[02:30] <Contrast> Sorry if I'm not communicating this very clearly. :-\
[02:30] <fdoving> Aikurn: they have been renamed to /dev/sd something.
[02:31] <fdoving> Contrast: no, you are, i just have weird questions. :)
[02:31] <Contrast> Heh, ok
[02:31] <jon_> #ubuntu
[02:31] <fdoving> Contrast: you want to use 1280x720 right? even if it supports higher resolutions.
[02:31] <Contrast> Ohh, ok. Correct.
[02:31] <lucas__> MarcoPau: Is that ok  for you ?
[02:32] <Timmmm> For some reason they just have version 6
[02:35] <Aikurn> fdoving: doing "ls -l /dev/sd*" just finds /dev/sda[1-6]
[02:35] <fdoving> Contrast: try this xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15548/ i modified the "Modes" line for your tv.
[02:35] <fdoving> Aikurn: check 'dmesg' output for your devices.
[02:35] <Aikurn> ok
[02:37] <fdoving> Contrast: i removed all modes higher than 1280x720, which is the one you want.
[02:38] <tarelerulz> I want to see how much room is left on my linux partiton and the rest of my hard drive too ?
[02:38] <chijin> tarelerulz: 'df -h' in the terminal
[02:39] <MarcoPau> lucas__: alright, I didn't click on it. what am I supposed to do with that?
[02:39] <Contrast> fdoving: Thanks, brb.
[02:39] <lucas__> MarcoPau: Normally it just configure automatically you're network interface
[02:40] <fdoving> tarelerulz: you can also rightclick on any file/folder and select properties, then at the bottom of the General tab, it says "Free disk space"
[02:40] <lucas__> "your network interface" damn keyboard
[02:42] <lucas__> So it may take effect on startup
[02:42] <lucas__> MarcoPau: Maybe if you try to restart your computer and see what happens then
[02:43] <lucas__> Since your network interfaceis configured now so it' not a great challenge now
[02:44] <sebbar> hi, if I open my camera in konqueror at the top it says camera://... how do I know where the camera is mounted exactly?
[02:44] <Contrast> fdoving: Thanks for trying, but Xorg wouldn't start at all with that xorg.conf.
[02:45] <MarcoPau> lucas__: what should I check?
[02:45] <lucas__> sebbar: Maybe in /media ?
[02:45] <fdoving> Contrast: can you provide the Xorg.0.log in a pastebin?
[02:45] <sebbar> lucas__: nope, it's not in media
[02:45] <lucas__> MarcoPau: Normally nothing you may have an icon in your systray
[02:45] <lucas__> sebbar: maybe if your try a dmesg you can see this ?
[02:46] <Contrast> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15551/
[02:46] <dettoaltrimenti> using k3bsetup, how can I change the permissions so I can burn a dvd with k3b without being root?
[02:46] <Contrast> dettoaltrimenti: Settings -> Configure K3B
[02:47] <dettoaltrimenti> should I put my user name as the permission? like this- permissions: 666.root.dettoaltrimenti
[02:47] <gemidjy> random thought: if only OO.org fixes the startup time it will be the best office package out there
[02:48] <Contrast> dettoaltrimenti: Sorry, nevermind. I remembered something incorrectly.
[02:48] <dettoaltrimenti> Contrast- I'm looking at K3b Setup, and in "use burning group" I put my username, but it's still not working
[02:49] <MarcoPau> lucas__: ok, so is it better for this knetworkmanager to be open or not?
[02:51] <lucas__> MarcoPau: What do you mean ? It stays in the system tray so it's rinning all th etime
[02:51] <Nickname> Hello everybody
[02:52] <lucas__> Hi mister Nickname
[02:52] <lucas__> :)
[02:52] <Arami> Hello Nickname XD
[02:52] <Arami> Er...smashly
[02:52] <MarcoPau> lucas__: yea ok, but what am I supposed to do with that in order to fix this problem with my eth configuration?
[02:53] <lucas__> Normally it automatically runs dhclient on your network interface in order to configure it automatically
[02:54] <lucas__> MarcoPau: You are not expected to enter any information
[02:54] <MarcoPau> ok
[02:55] <lucas__> MarcoPau:  have a try and come back to see us if doesn't work
[02:55] <MarcoPau> lucas__: instead to use dhcp I should hack on it and erase the info in /etc/network/interfaces?
[02:55] <lucas__> MarcoPau: Maybe you will nedd to clean it
[02:55] <MarcoPau> ok
[02:55] <lucas__> I jsut give you th emine
[02:56] <trojkolka> is it a bug that wireless networks are not found anymore with Knetworkmanager or did it just change planned? I mean that the Essid were shown of available wireless networks in the surrounding of the laptop and if you were connected to a wireless network your tray icon changed to a signal strength icon but this is not the case anymore
[02:56] <lucas__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15555/
[02:57] <Ahmuck> when i try to login to kubuntu, it loops, any suggestions on how to fix this ?
[02:57] <trojkolka> i can still connect to wireless networks though
[02:57] <lucas__> trojkolka: The networkmanager had some trouble these days if you are running feisty
[02:58] <trojkolka> oh yeah sorry... indeed i running an totally updated version of feisty
[02:58] <lucas__> trojkolka: no worries normally the last updates fix this
[02:59] <lucas__> I use the main archive site and didi not seeee anything
[02:59] <trojkolka> perfect =) because tonight i'm going to a friend to convince him of Kubuntu and install it on his server =)
[02:59] <lucas__> sinceI didn0t upgrade yesterday
[03:00] <trojkolka> he saw it running on my laptop once and became very curious... :D
[03:00] <Contrast> fdoving: Still there?
[03:01] <cntb-guest> \o
[03:01] <smashly> Has anyone got experience with the Intel 3945abg wlan? Should it just work, I'm running (attempting to) 6.10 or do I need to install other software first?
[03:01] <cntb-guest> guys in kde could I chnge non-unicode chars need greek in Firefox
[03:01] <archangel_> what would cause open office to quit during startup splash screen
[03:02] <cntb-guest> guys! wherein kde could I chnge non-unicode chars need greek in Firefox?
[03:02] <lucas__> smashly: I think it works on feisty (I remember a friend who use it )
[03:02] <Contrast> fdoving: I finally got it. I just removed every reference to all the resolutions besides 1280x720 in my xorg.conf. Thanks for setting me on the right track. Greatly appreciated. :-D
[03:02] <lucas__> But I m'sure it works on feisty
[03:02] <abattoir> archangel_: have you tried launching it through a terminal? might provide some info
[03:02] <smashly> thanks lucas__ downloading it now ;)
[03:02] <archangel_> hmmm, ok trying it
[03:03] <Bernardo> hi
[03:03] <abattoir> cntb-guest: tried View->Character Encoding in firefox?
[03:03] <archangel_> Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console
[03:03] <archangel_> Could not get a file descriptor referring to the console
[03:03] <archangel_> those are the errors
[03:04] <trojkolka> does feisty support multiple display screens? because everytime i want to clone my desktop/screen to my tv my screen turns in to a black and white patchwork and quilting pattern and i need to reboot to get my desktop back
[03:04] <lucas__> smashly: Remember to check if your wireless led's are on  I was going mad to weeks ago
[03:04] <cntb-guest> abattoir: no systemwide you say
[03:04] <abattoir> archangel_: what are you launching oowriter?
[03:04] <sioux> kubuntu 7.04 download doesn't exist
[03:04] <lucas__> The driver was loaded but the interface wasn't detected
[03:04] <abattoir> cntb-guest: for all kde-apps or just firefox?
[03:04] <sioux> ?
[03:04] <archangel_> open office   is what I typed
[03:04] <abattoir> sioux: it's not been released yet
[03:04] <lucas__> smashly: until I  press the button to run the wireless
[03:05] <cntb-guest> abattoir: FF2 this time
[03:05] <archangel_> actually I want presenter, but NOTHING in office workes
[03:05] <smashly> hey lucas__ I'm new to kubuntu, is fiesty 7.04
[03:05] <abattoir> archangel_: oh, that's not the way how you launch it
[03:05] <fdoving> Contrast: glad it works for you :)
[03:05] <abattoir> archangel_: try oopresenter instead
[03:05] <archangel_> it just happend I'm sure its cause I just updated
[03:06] <archangel_> ohh ok
[03:06] <lucas__> smashly: yeah take care it's a beta
[03:06] <lucas__> smashly: AND it knows sme troubles these days with updates
[03:06] <archangel_> bash: oopresenter: command not found
[03:06] <smashly> only playing
[03:06] <lucas__> So don't try to stay on the edge
[03:07] <abattoir> oh, i think it's ooimpress :P
[03:07] <abattoir> archangel_: ^^
[03:07] <archangel_> lol
[03:07] <cntb-guest> abattoir: tis a flshplugin game in ff2 so I guess systemwide non-unicode display is needed here
[03:08] <trojkolka> does feisty support multiple display screens? because everytime i want to clone my desktop/screen to my tv my screen turns in to a black and white patchwork and quilting pattern and i need to reboot to get my desktop back
[03:08] <archangel_> wow I will need to use paste bin for this
[03:08] <sioux> so what's best kubuntu or ubuntu?
[03:08] <trojkolka> it depends if you prefer gnome or kde
[03:09] <archangel_> your asking that in HERE?
[03:09] <lucas__> trojkolka: There is no tols to configure your dual screen setting
[03:09] <archangel_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15560/
[03:09] <trojkolka> ah thanks lucas__
[03:10] <sioux> well KDE has much more desktop personalization than gnome but ubuntu seems much stable and program runs better expecially 3D desktop
[03:10] <abattoir> archangel_: you can safely ignore the errors upto line 10... line 13 seems to be it
[03:12] <trojkolka> everytime when i do dist-upgrade i got some message about reading madm or initramfs is this fixable it just popped up a couple days ago before that i have never seen this message about it
[03:12] <archangel_> how can I fix it?
[03:12] <lucas__> trojkolka: But you can configure manually your xorg.conf
[03:12] <lucas__> to enable dual screen
[03:12] <abattoir> archangel_: ati card?
[03:12] <abattoir> archangel_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200567
[03:13] <archangel_> nvidia
[03:13] <trojkolka> okay i will google it up xorg.conf enable dual screen (i made a note of it)
[03:14] <dettoaltrimenti> what is the terminal command to see what hardware you have on your computer? I can't seem to burn cds or dvds and I think it's because I have a combo drive and it's not being recognized properly
[03:14] <lucas__> trojkolka: The serverlayout is the section in xorg.conf that configure how you arrange your screens
[03:14] <MarcoPau> lucas__: ok I read your interfaces... would you know how to sort of share the eth cards as if they were the same? I mean as if a switch was used instead of more eth ports
[03:15] <MarcoPau> each one with a different ip
[03:16] <abattoir> archangel_: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/63676 too, but almost all of them are problems w/ fglrx/ati
[03:17] <dromer> !fourcc
[03:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fourcc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:17] <archangel_> thanks
[03:18] <dromer> hmm, does anybody know how I could get the fourcc-codecs installod on my machine?
[03:18] <dromer> according to this list: http://www.freecodec.net/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=1&page=2  it contains the MVDV (Midvid) cedoc that I really need installed
[03:19] <ubuntu> hola
[03:20] <ubuntu> spanish
[03:20] <abattoir> !es | ubuntu
[03:20] <ubotu> ubuntu: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:22] <trojkolka> everytime when i do dist-upgrade i got some message about reading madm or initramfs is this fixable it just popped up a couple days ago before that i have never seen this message about it
[03:22] <woland_> hi, why does apt keep installing restricted-modules for a kernel i have since upgraded
[03:23] <abattoir> woland_: did you remove the old kernel?
[03:23] <woland_> it tries to install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23 whereas i am running .*-28
[03:23] <abattoir> trojkolka: no idea, but i got the same a while ago too
[03:24] <trojkolka> you still have the message abattoir?
[03:25] <N0Lif3> What kind of upload speed to you think is required to stream a 200MB video file across the net? I've tried it at 40KBytes/s through FTP and it didn't work.
[03:25] <woland_> abattoir, yes - but nvidia-glx reinstalls the old version
[03:26] <Daisuke_Ido> streaming over ftp?
[03:26] <Daisuke_Ido> and it all depends on what that 200mb is, bitrate and such
[03:26] <abattoir> trojkolka: sorry, no, i closed that tab
[03:27] <Daisuke_Ido> a 10 minute 200mb HD clip isn't going to stream well, but a 200mb 30 minute tv episode would probably work substantially better
[03:27] <woland_> abattoir, even when i uncomment universe
[03:27] <N0Lif3> Daisuke_Ido: Yeah, I got an ftp server running on my linux machine, and I was able to connect to it with my laptop (Konqueror browser) and when I tried just opening it in xine I got nothing but black
[03:28] <trojkolka> abattoir imean when you do it when you got updates to install do you still got that madm initramfs messga when you upgrade
[03:28] <trojkolka> or did the message disappear again
[03:29] <trojkolka> do i have to worry about the message anyways or is it just a not important message?
[03:29] <trojkolka> i read it had something to do with RAID but i dont think my laptop has RAID
[03:29] <abattoir> trojkolka: i got that when i was trying something else, which called update-initramfs, i'm upgrading to current feisty now, i'll tell you if/when i get that error
[03:30] <woland_> i don't know why when you're promoted to install kernels which doesn't support other packages you have installed
[03:30] <abattoir> trojkolka: me too, no RAID here either
[03:30] <trojkolka> ah ok thanks abattoir
[03:30] <woland_> i'm now having to downgrade the kernel just to use a prepackaged kernel-module package
[03:30] <Daisuke_Ido> if you're going to go through ftp, you'll have to download it first.  there are software packages that will allow you to do video streaming, but i don't know the names right off hand.  icenterx, i believe
[03:31] <abattoir> woland_: i don't think nvidia-glx is in universe, seems to be restricted
[03:32] <woland_> abattoir, i installed it without modifying sources using adept
[03:32] <abattoir> woland_: from what i can see, it depends on 'linux-restricted-modules-common' , which i assume is a metapackage, not on a particular version
[03:33] <trojkolka> this is the message i'm talking about actually: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-15-386 W: mdadm: unchecked configuration file: /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf W: mdadm: please read /usr/share/doc/mdadm/README.upgrading-2.5.3.gz .
[03:33] <trojkolka> W: mdadm: no arrays defined in configuration file.W: mdadm: falling back to emergency procedure in initramfs.
[03:33] <abattoir> trojkolka: yeah, i'm pretty sure i got the same thing too
[03:34] <abattoir> but it continued fine after that
[03:34] <woland_> abattoir, why was i prompted to install a kernel version which broke my X setup? i'm deliberatly using the graphical tools without editting any advanced options
[03:34] <Ahmuck> kubuntu login is looping on me.  any ideas ?
[03:34] <trojkolka> ah okay... yeah same here it isn't an obstruction i just think it is a weird message that poppud up from one to the other day
[03:35] <abattoir> woland_: using edgy?
[03:35] <woland_> abattoir, dapper
[03:35] <abattoir> woland_: ok...
[03:35] <angasule> the XF86MyComputer and XF86Mail keys in my keyboard seem to be hardwired to konqueror and kmail, why?? I can't find a way of changing them to something else
[03:36] <woland_> abattoir, sorry, i thought the LTS suggested stuff was testing thoroughly before release/updates
[03:37] <pharsalus> Can any program for Kubuntu use .srt subtitles?
[03:37] <abattoir> woland_: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/x11/nvidia-glx ...seems to be built from -28
[03:37] <abattoir> pharsalus: i think kaffeine does
[03:37] <trojkolka> pharsalus VLC can do the trick i assume
[03:37] <woland_> abattoir, they why - when running the -28 kernel - does it require the -23 one?
[03:38] <woland_> abattoir, despite -23 not being installed
[03:38] <abattoir> pharsalus: are you sure you have 'restricted' enabled? and that it's up-to-date?
[03:38] <abattoir> woland_:  are you sure you have 'restricted' enabled? and that it's up-to-date?
[03:39] <woland_> abattoir, i don't, which is why i'm unsure the -28 kernel was installed when i have packages depending on -23
[03:40] <abattoir> woland_: my guess is, -28 is installed from main, but you have nvidia-glx already installed, since you don't have restricted now, it doesn't pull down the new version
[03:40] <MetaMorfoziS> is there an app that can test how my hdd fast? hdparm -tT says "Timing buffered disk reads:  222 MB in  3.00 seconds =  73.97 MB/sec" i think it's false. I don't think my hdd fast as this says.
[03:41] <abattoir> woland_: because nvidia-glx is from restricted
[03:44] <woland_> i don't understand why i was allowed to install nvidia without enabling restricted
[03:46] <abattoir> woland_: were the other repositories already enabled for you post-installation? or did you have to do that manually?
[03:46] <woland_> i had to do it
[03:47] <Erunno> Good afternoon. Does anybody else have problems connecting to WPA2 networks after upgrading to Feisty ?
[03:47] <abattoir> woland_: iirc, for dapper, if you did an offline installation, repositories weren't enabled, so you have to do that manually, that doesn't mean software from those repos weren't install
[03:48] <abattoir> woland_: for example, the kernel was from 'main', and installed but you still had to enable that repo
[03:49] <Erunno> Or is there an alternative to NetworkManager ?
[03:51] <domifer> hey, anyone feel like helping a linux nub with a question about screen resolutions?
[03:52] <woland_> abattoir, would it be worth doing a dist-upgrade?
[03:52] <xtavaresx> domifer, dont ask to ask, just ask
[03:53] <domifer> ok, well I just installed kubuntu and the screen res is default.. if I try to up it to 1280x800, it shows up all scrambled
[03:53] <Ahmuck> is it safe to rm -rf .kde
[03:53] <abattoir> woland_: didn't you do that? i though nvidia-glx was the only old package, and hence brought down the older kernel
[03:53] <Ahmuck> domifer: sup
[03:53] <xtavaresx> domifer what graphics card you have?
[03:53] <domifer> on a laptop with ati radeon mobility 9700
[03:54] <Ahmuck> mifer: does your video card/monitor support 1280x800
[03:54] <domifer> yea, that's what it's made for
[03:54] <abattoir> Ahmuck: the channel title in #kde specifically used to say one should not do that, but many say it doesn't cause harm, so i guess it's better not to
[03:54] <Ahmuck> abattoir: my problem is, kdm loops at the login prompt
[03:55] <Ahmuck> so i wondered if removing .kde would fix this
[03:55] <abattoir> Ahmuck: which version?
[03:55] <abattoir> of k/ubuntu?
[03:55] <xtavaresx> domifer, do you have the most up to date proprietry ati drivers?
[03:55] <Ahmuck> 6.16
[03:55] <woland_> abattoir, i'be just been using update/upgrade - i was considering updating from dapper using dist-upgrade but i've heard it can be unreliable
[03:55] <domifer> absolutely not =p
[03:55] <abattoir> Ahmuck: i think you mean 6.06
[03:56] <xtavaresx> domifer then that is what you should do first. get the proprietry driver from ATI
[03:56] <domifer> just installed kubuntu, and I know very little about what I'm actually doing
[03:56] <Ahmuck> i had a problem with screen resolutions so i apt-get remove kde, xserver-xorg, etc and then install kde, xserver-xorg
[03:56] <Ahmuck> abattoir: yes, i meant edgy
[03:56] <domifer> used linux before in the past, but it was too long ago for me to remember anything useful
[03:56] <abattoir> woland_: yeah, the upgrade process is not very straightforward, but if you follow this guide, it should be smooth
[03:56] <xtavaresx> ahmuck, that sounds a little bit too drastic
[03:56] <abattoir> !upgrade | woland_
[03:56] <ubotu> woland_: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[03:57] <Ahmuck> xtavaresx: yes, well, i did not know i had a live cd to use
[03:57] <Ahmuck> xtavaresx: so i was doing drastic things
[03:57] <Ahmuck> anyhow, i got a login prompt back, but it just loops
[03:57] <Ahmuck> er, a gui login prompt back
[03:58] <woland_> thanks abattoir
[03:58] <xtavaresx> what do you mena by loops?
[03:58] <DexterF> hi
[03:58] <abattoir> woland_: no problem
[03:58] <DexterF> is there a preview live cd of 7.04?
[03:58] <Ahmuck> type in login/password, it works for a second, flickers, ubuntu timer goes around and then dumps back to kdm
[03:58] <xtavaresx> i see.
[03:59] <Ahmuck> so it never starts the session for the user
[03:59] <Ahmuck> i'v experienced this once before ... and iirc, there was some setting i had to reset ... something related to password security
[04:00] <abattoir> Ahmuck: is it up-to-date edgy?
[04:00] <xtavaresx> ahmuck, im sorry, i cant think of anything. i dont think youve broken x, or kdm wouldnt start.
[04:00] <xtavaresx> when did this begin? is it a frsh install?
[04:02] <Ahmuck> abattoir: yes
[04:02] <Ahmuck> xtavaresx: it's not a fresh install
[04:02] <xtavaresx> what did you change just before this happened?
[04:02] <Ahmuck> the monitor resolution
[04:03] <Ahmuck> it would not change back.  740x400 not supported
[04:03] <Ahmuck> it's confusing to me
[04:03] <xtavaresx> ahmuck
[04:03] <xtavaresx> i know wht you need to do.
[04:04] <Ahmuck> really ? that would be nice
[04:04] <Ahmuck> as i am stuck
[04:04] <xtavaresx> ahmuck, from kdm login to a terminal session then run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[04:05] <Ahmuck> what does the -phigh do ?
[04:05] <xtavaresx> priority high
[04:05] <xtavaresx> its in the man page.
[04:05] <Ahmuck> i did run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ealier, that is how i got xserver back
[04:06] <xtavaresx> i see.
[04:06] <Ahmuck> i thought it may have something to do with authentitication of login/passwd and PAM, but i don't recall
[04:07] <xtavaresx> i see. what i might do then (ahmuck) is manually go in and have a look at my xorg file and remove some options
[04:08] <Ricky> My ndiswrapper seems to be messing up... My wireless card will work for a minute or two after starting up my computer, and then it will just stop working and not connect to APs and not even see them in a scan. I am currently on ethernet. I read that someone had the same problem but fixed it by upgrading to ndiswrapper "2.9" but I don't see a 2.9 on the sourceforge page. What do I do?
[04:08] <xtavaresx> i belive its in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:08] <Ahmuck> xtavaresx: yes
[04:08] <xtavaresx> i would remove some resolutions
[04:09] <xtavaresx> i had a similar problem to you when i played with beryl/compiz
[04:09] <Ricky> Wow, that's weird because I installed beryl and thought it might be the problem
[04:09] <Ricky> but then... did you find a solution?
[04:09] <xtavaresx> sorry ricky, i was adressing ahmuck.
[04:09] <Ricky> oh lol
[04:10] <xtavaresx> ricky, i dont know anything about ndiswrapper, no way to run wireless natively?
[04:10] <Ricky> Nope, Kubuntu doesn't detect my wireless adapter.
[04:10] <Ricky> Perhaps I will try MadWiFi
[04:10] <xtavaresx> do you have restricted modules installed?
[04:11] <xtavaresx> Ricky, it took me a while to get my wirelss working, what chipset do you have?
[04:11] <Ricky> Broadcom
[04:11] <xtavaresx> ricky restricted modules?
[04:12] <Ricky> ? (sorry I'm kinda new to Kubuntu)
[04:12] <xtavaresx> ok. i think linux supports your chipset natively, but you need to install the linux restricted moduls.
[04:12] <xtavaresx> sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules
[04:13] <xtavaresx> i think the name has something else at the end, depending on your architecture.
[04:13] <xtavaresx> ricky, adept has it. choose the generic one
[04:13] <Ricky> ok
[04:13] <Ricky> except that my adept keeps crashing right now :S
[04:14] <MetaMorfoziS> isthere anybody running kubuntu from pendrive?
[04:14] <xtavaresx> ok, do it from a terminal sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic
[04:14] <Ricky> ah, I got it started
[04:14] <xtavaresx> ahmuck still there?
[04:15] <Ricky> it is already installed
[04:15] <xtavaresx> ok. what is your architecture?
[04:15] <Ricky> i386 or 32-bit
[04:15] <Ricky> I guess "i386" is the architecture?
[04:16] <xtavaresx> ok.
[04:16] <Ahmuck> xtavaresx: yes
[04:16] <xtavaresx> ahmuck: any luck yet?
[04:17] <Ahmuck> nope
[04:18] <Ahmuck> i have to reboot to see if it works
[04:18] <xtavaresx> ricky, also install linux-resticted-modules-common and linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic and linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-386 and linux-restricted-modules-386
[04:19] <xtavaresx> i am pretty sure (ricky) that your wireless support will then be enabled
[04:20] <Ahmuck> xtavaresx: what i think i will do is create a dummy user that has no .* files and see if i can log in as a new user, if i can, the problem would be located in the user directory
[04:20] <xtavaresx> that is a good strategy
[04:20] <Ricky> linux-restricted-modules-386 is not installed, so that could be it
[04:20] <xtavaresx> ricky, the others i mentioned were?
[04:20] <Ricky> yeah
[04:20] <xtavaresx> give it a try, then try to run kwifimanger
[04:20] <Ricky> oh, and also 2.6...-386 is not installed
[04:21] <xtavaresx> ricky, if it works let me know. by the way, madwifi is in one of those module
[04:21] <Ricky> but one thing... this guy has the same problem and says a kernel upgrade fixed it... how can i check my kernel version? : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/16963
[04:22] <xtavaresx> well i am on 2.6.11-17, you can check in kcontrol
[04:23] <Ricky> it says Release: 2.6.17-11-generic
[04:23] <Ricky> and it says Machine:i686 - does that mean I'm NOT on 386??
[04:23] <xtavaresx> install the i686 modules too
[04:24] <frojnd> any similar program to LC5 or saminside, but for linux??
[04:24] <angasule> I can't remap some of the multimedia keys, can anyone help?
[04:27] <soon> Hi Folks - I've installed the NFS server on both my laptop and desktop and in System Settings / Sharing added my home folder Shared Folders on both machines (NFS only, not SAMBA)
[04:28] <Ricky> how do I uninstall ndiswrapper and related features, so that it doesn't conflict with the restricted modules package?
[04:28] <soon> What should I do now to access my /home/soon on one machine from the other ?
[04:29] <angasule> I can't remap some of the multimedia keys, can anyone help?
[04:29] <Ricky> well I uninstalled ndiswrapper, restarting.
[04:31] <Ginja_Ninja> hi. How can i get kubuntu to enforce "file locking" ?
[04:32] <cheeseboy> whats command to configure xorg?
[04:32] <Ginja_Ninja> X -configure i think (please check before using)
[04:33] <cheeseboy> thats for auto config
[04:33] <cheeseboy> isnt it?
[04:33] <abattoir> cheeseboy: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:34] <Ginja_Ninja> yer, i have used it for my nvidia card. This is the first bit of help i have given, i am not a linux guru.
[04:34] <soon> cheeseboy ... depends on your graphics card, whether you use ATI, nvidia, proprietary driver og open source driver ...
[04:35] <cheeseboy> nvidia but there used to be thing to reconfigure xorg to select driver and stuff
[04:37] <soon> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Video
[04:38] <Ginja_Ninja> hi all. Is there a way to turn on file locking ?
[04:38] <soon> what do you mean file locking?
[04:38] <Sanne> hi
[04:38] <soon> He
[04:38] <soon> hej
[04:39] <Ginja_Ninja> soon: Only one user can write to a file at a time.
[04:39] <cheeseboy> Dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:39] <cheeseboy> that was it
[04:40] <soon> Ginja_Ninja ... never heard of that. Obviously you can change user and priviledges on a file, but thats not what youre after i suspect
[04:41] <Ginja_Ninja> soon: Thanks but no. I thought as linux is a multi-user system there would be prevention of 2 people editing the same file at the same time. I has disastrous conciquences
[04:41] <Ginja_Ninja> Thought it would be standard
[04:42] <soon> It could very well be - I've just never come across the need for it ....
[04:42] <soon> hence never read about it
[04:42] <Ginja_Ninja> thats a fair one
[04:42] <Ginja_Ninja> :)
[04:42] <Sanne> Ginja_Ninja: they won't be able to do that usually. A user has only access to his/her own files. Unless you are superuser, you cannot write to files from another user.
[04:42] <Ginja_Ninja> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_locking#File_locking_in_UNIX
[04:43] <Ginja_Ninja> Sanne: Good point well phased. However i am making a "shared" folder were antbody from the group "share" can read/write/delete anybody's files.
[04:44] <Sanne> Ginja_Ninja: ah, yes, then sonme sort of file locking would need to be implemented.
[04:44] <alex_> gg
[04:44] <Ginja_Ninja> Sanne: indeed
[04:45] <Ginja_Ninja> any experiences?
[04:45] <n4zgul> hello friends, someone can help me? i already installed w32codecs and the package ubuntu restricted extras, but  when i try to play avi files on kaffeine the video gets all dizzy
[04:46] <Sanne> Ginja_Ninja: not really. I remember seeing some applications do that, but I never heard about a system in a situation like yours... save, well, version control systems maybe? CVS and SVN?
[04:46] <Ginja_Ninja> Sanne: hmm i like your thinking
[04:51] <coreymon77> hi guys
[04:51] <coreymon77> i need help
[04:51] <dettoaltrimenti> how do I create an iso from a dvd?
[04:51] <coreymon77> i burned a cdrw with k3b a little while ago
[04:52] <coreymon77> and now i want to add a file to the cdrw but still keep all the others
[04:52] <coreymon77> how do i do that
[04:53] <russ_> licketh thine sweating ring of pleasure
[04:53] <abattoir> coreymon77: did you close the session when you burn it the first time?
[04:53] <coreymon77> dont think so
[04:53] <coreymon77> its a cdrw
[04:53] <russ_> oh god you retard
[04:54] <coreymon77> they support multisession anyways
[04:54] <russ_> it doesnt matter if its a cdrw
[04:54] <Sanne> dettoaltrimenti: I would use dd, like here: http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=534
[04:54] <russ_> you can still close the fucking session
[04:54] <russ_> wtf
[04:54] <PriceChild> !ohmy | russ_
[04:54] <coreymon77> i dont think i did in the first place
[04:54] <ubotu> russ_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:54] <abattoir> coreymon77: then all you have to do is import the previous session
[04:54] <russ_> lol
[04:54] <coreymon77> but arent cdrws multisession capable
[04:55] <octo> does anyone think that Gimp would be faster manipulating larger picture files running as 64 bit than 32 bit, if possible?
[04:55] <russ_> oh god. listen to what your being told
[04:55] <russ_> lol
[04:55] <abattoir> coreymon77: in k3b, Projects->Import Session
[04:55] <octo> if there is a 64 bit ver  of Gimp?
[04:55] <coreymon77> tried that
[04:55] <PriceChild> !coc | russ_
[04:55] <ubotu> russ_: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[04:55] <abattoir> coreymon77: they are capable, but i think you can close sessions as well... not entirely sure
[04:56] <Sanne> octo: I would think it would be faster. I'm using Gimp on Dapper amd64, works fine. I have no comparison to 32 bit, though.
[04:57] <coreymon77> abattoir: i tried doing that, added the file, tried to burn, but it gives me this error
[04:57] <coreymon77> abattoir: could not determine size of resulting image file
[04:57] <Sanne> dettoaltrimenti: btw, you can find out more about dd by typing: man dd
[04:57] <octo> Sanne: thanks
[04:58] <Sanne> octo: you're welcome
[04:58] <coreymon77> abattoir: what does that mean
[04:59] <dettoaltrimenti> thanks sanne
[04:59] <Sanne> dettoaltrimenti: you're welcome
[04:59] <abattoir> coreymon77: sorry, don't know what that specifically means, maybe someone at #k3b can help, but one guess is that you closed that session, and you can't continue it
[05:00] <coreymon77> abattoir: meaning that i cant add files?
[05:00] <abattoir> coreymon77: i think so, yes
[05:00] <abattoir> coreymon77: in the 'Burn Properties' dialog, you can choose whether you want to start a multisession disc, close the session etc.
[05:01] <ewgeni90> hello
[05:03] <icecruncher> !apt > icecruncher
[05:03] <jhutchins> coreymon77: No, you cannot add files to a session once you have closed it.
[05:04] <ewgeni90> why the  "Translucency" no active?
[05:04] <cashvalentine^^> where is the ubuntu-server-guide located?
[05:04] <jhutchins> cashvalentine^^: Google says it's at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/index.html
[05:04] <icecruncher> my repo's is locked, what to do?
[05:05] <jhutchins> !adeptfix
[05:05] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:05] <cashvalentine^^> jhutchins: i mean on my system after i installed it with adept!?
[05:06] <abattoir> cashvalentine^^: try F1
[05:06] <jhutchins> cashvalentine^^: 1) Are you using sudo? 2) Is another program like the updater running?  3) Did you TRY what's in the factoid?
[05:06] <abattoir> cashvalentine^^: should be on the left pane
[05:07] <icecruncher> thanks jhutchins
[05:07] <Sephnroth> ello, does edgy come with the pci wifi driver included for kubuntu? (rt2500 iirc)
[05:07] <cashvalentine^^> REAL freaking bizarre ==> I install the "ubuntu-server-guide", but it is NOWHERE to be found in the KDDE help gadget.
[05:07] <coreymon77> another question
[05:07] <abattoir> cashvalentine^^: or maybe it doesn't go there, wait a sec :P
[05:08] <ewgeni90> why the  "Translucency" no active?
[05:08] <ewgeni90> why the  "Translucency" no active?
[05:08] <Sephnroth> I introduced my friend to kubuntu and he uses wifi and his card is giving him serious troubles.  im sshed into his system atm and rt2500 is not under "lsmod" - according to ubuntu wiki these later versions should support things by default however
[05:08] <coreymon77> does k3b have the option to create an iso file out of what is already on the disc?
[05:08] <cashvalentine^^> looking at the "installed files" section in Adept, I see it's all dumped into /usr/share/ubuntu-serverguide
[05:08] <ewgeni90> why the  "Translucency" no active?
[05:08] <ewgeni90> why the  "Translucency" no active?
[05:08] <cashvalentine^^> So, does ubuntu expect us to go rooting around on the $#%$#%#$%#$% hard drive to find its own documentation?
[05:09] <cashvalentine^^> Why can't they just link it into the KDE help regime?  WTF ???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
[05:09] <ewgeni90> why the  "Translucency" no active?
[05:09] <abattoir> cashvalentine^^: actually it's under Kubuntu Documents -> Ubuntu server guide
[05:09] <abattoir> ewgeni90: please don't do that
[05:09] <abattoir> ewgeni90: what do you mean exactly?
[05:10] <cashvalentine^^> abattoir: not one mine!
[05:10] <cashvalentine^^> damn
[05:10] <cashvalentine^^> how do i do screenshot to show you all
[05:10] <cashvalentine^^> got it, where's that binary upload share site
[05:11] <abattoir> cashvalentine^^: Print Screen(which calls ksnapshot), but ok, i believe you
[05:11] <n4zgul> hello friends, someone can help me? i already installed w32codecs and the package ubuntu restricted extras, but  when i try to play avi files on kaffeine the video gets all dizzy
[05:11] <ewgeni90> i have error in my kubuntu ,i want to install translucency and it is dont want active
[05:11] <cashvalentine^^> can't remember
[05:11] <abattoir> cashvalentine^^: imageshack.us
[05:11] <abattoir> ewgeni90: which version of ubuntu are you using?
[05:12] <cashvalentine^^> abattoir: nope. i wuz here the other day and they had upload a gob of shit to some ubuntu site
[05:12] <ewgeni90> i using the Kubuntu 6.06 LTS
[05:12] <abattoir> cashvalentine^^: should have been http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org then
[05:12] <abattoir> cashvalentine^^: you can put it up anywhere
[05:12] <Sephnroth> need help compilg rt2500 :/
[05:12] <cashvalentine^^> that's it. thanks
[05:13] <abattoir> ewgeni90: you want to enable Compositing in X right?
[05:13] <ewgeni90> yes
[05:13] <fdoving> Sephnroth: you don't need to compile it, it's already compiled.
[05:13] <abattoir> ewgeni90: run 'kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[05:14] <abattoir> hi fdoving
[05:14] <Sephnroth> thats what i figured, but rt2500.ko is not visiable under lsmod
[05:14] <Sephnroth> and my friend cant make his wireless pci card work at all
[05:14] <fdoving> hi abattoir :)
[05:14] <PriceChild>  Sephnroth rt2500 works out of the box
[05:14] <fdoving> Sephnroth: that's because it's not loaded. try 'sudo modprobe rt2500' from a konsole then check lsmod again.
[05:14] <Sephnroth> under /etc/network/interfaces there is no stanxa beging with ra0
[05:14] <Sephnroth> k
[05:16] <ewgeni90> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[05:16] <ewgeni90>   Major opcode:  145
[05:16] <ewgeni90>   Minor opcode:  3
[05:16] <ewgeni90>   Resource id:  0x0
[05:16] <ewgeni90> Failed to open device
[05:16] <ewgeni90> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[05:16] <ewgeni90>   Major opcode:  145
[05:16] <ewgeni90>   Minor opcode:  3
[05:16] <ewgeni90>   Resource id:  0x0
[05:16] <ewgeni90> Failed to open device
[05:16] <ewgeni90> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[05:16] <abattoir> ewgeni90: please don't paste that here
[05:16] <ewgeni90>   Major opcode:  145
[05:16] <ewgeni90>   Minor opcode:  3
[05:16] <ewgeni90>   Resource id:  0x0
[05:16] <ewgeni90> Failed to open device
[05:16] <ewgeni90> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[05:16] <Sephnroth> ok good its there, but im expecting ra0 to be in the ethernet interfaces, but it isnt - there is eth1 which under the stanza has an wireless=essid field which i presume he set
[05:16] <ewgeni90>   Major opcode:  145
[05:16] <ewgeni90>   Minor opcode:  3
[05:16] <ewgeni90>   Resource id:  0x0
[05:16] <ewgeni90> Failed to open device
[05:16] <ewgeni90> Link points to "/tmp/ksocket-root"
[05:16] <ewgeni90> Link points to "/tmp/kde-root"
[05:16] <ewgeni90> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[05:16] <ewgeni90>   Major opcode:  145
[05:16] <ewgeni90>   Minor opcode:  3
[05:16] <ewgeni90>   Resource id:  0x0
[05:16] <ewgeni90> Failed to open device
[05:16] <ewgeni90> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[05:16] <ewgeni90>   Major opcode:  145
[05:16] <ewgeni90>   Minor opcode:  3
[05:16] <ewgeni90>   Resource id:  0x0
[05:16] <ewgeni90> Failed to open device
[05:16] <ewgeni90> kbuildsycoca running...
[05:16] <ewgeni90> ScimInputContextPlugin()
[05:17] <ewgeni90> kate: WARNING: Can't open /root/share/apps/konqueror/bookmarks.xml
[05:17] <ewgeni90> oops
[05:17] <Sephnroth> yeah, oops ;)
[05:17] <abattoir> ewgeni90: next time please use pastebin
[05:17] <fdoving> very oops :)
[05:17] <abattoir> !paste | ewgeni90
[05:17] <ubotu> ewgeni90: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:17] <Sephnroth> did you catch my message, fdoving?
[05:17] <jhutchins> ewgeni90: You are very lucky your freenode server is under a very light load this morning.
[05:17] <abattoir> ewgeni90: kate has opened up?
[05:17] <ewgeni90> yes
[05:18] <fdoving> Sephnroth: yes, you can change that in /etc/iftab
[05:18] <Sephnroth> incidently its not my pc im configuring, im using ssh to try and help my mate with his
[05:18] <abattoir> ewgeni90: scroll to the bottom of that file, append the text in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15594/ and then save it
[05:18] <Sephnroth> and i dont have wireless on my pc so im not used to this
[05:18] <Sephnroth> might need a bit of hand holding
[05:18] <abattoir> ewgeni90: restart X, and compositing should be on(that's what the error message when you start KDE asks you to do)
[05:18] <Sephnroth> iftab contains:
[05:18] <Sephnroth> eth0 mac 00:4f:49:04:40:e2 arp 1
[05:18] <Sephnroth> eth1 mac 00:0c:41:61:d6:48 arp 1
[05:19] <fdoving> Sephnroth: one of them is the wireless device no?
[05:19] <fdoving> Sephnroth: you can just replace eth1 with ra0 if you know that's the wireless device.
[05:19] <Sephnroth> i imagine so, but i best double check he only has the 2 cards, one ethernet and the other wireless
[05:20] <francesco_> hi
[05:20] <fdoving> Sephnroth: you can use 'lshw -short|grep eth1'
[05:21] <francesco_> i have problem using eclipse on kubuntu
[05:21] <francesco_> eclipse crashing!
[05:21] <Aikurn> I have a problem with feisty's latest kernel. dmesg shows "ata2.01: n_sectors mismatch 150994954 != 156301488"
[05:21] <francesco_> have 64bit intel centrino core 2
[05:22] <francesco_> hp nootbook
[05:22] <ewgeni90> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15595/
[05:22] <fdoving> Aikurn: report that to #ubuntu-kernel
[05:22] <ewgeni90> i pasted this there
[05:22] <Aikurn> ok
[05:23] <francesco_> JVM terminated. Exit code=127
[05:23] <francesco_> /usr/bin/java
[05:23] <francesco_> -Xms40m
[05:23] <francesco_> -Xmx256m
[05:23] <francesco_> -jar /home/francesco/.local/share/Trash/files/eclipse/./startup.jar
[05:23] <francesco_> -os linux
[05:23] <francesco_> -ws gtk
[05:23] <francesco_> -arch x86_64
[05:23] <francesco_> -launcher /home/francesco/.local/share/Trash/files/eclipse/./eclipse
[05:23] <francesco_> -name Eclipse
[05:24] <fdoving> hum.. mute didn't work.
 i have a problem with my screen?
[05:25] <angasule_> please, oh, please, can someone tell me why some multimedia keys seem to be hardcoded??
[05:25] <abattoir> ewgeni90: what happens?
[05:26] <ewgeni90> i copied this there :   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15595/
[05:27] <jhutchins> ewgeni90: Doesn't tell us what happens.  We all have xorg.conf files.
[05:27] <Sephnroth> fdoving, do i replace eth1 with ra0 in both iftab and network/interfaces ?
[05:28] <fdoving> Sephnroth: yes, in /etc/iftab you rename the device, so all eth1 entries needs to be replaced with ra0 elsewhere.
[05:28] <alex_> ,
[05:28] <Sephnroth> anywhere else except interfaces that its going to change that i need to be careful of?
[05:28] <ewgeni90> i use kubuntu 1-2 months
[05:28] <ewgeni90> i am  "new" in linux
[05:28] <fdoving> Sephnroth: you will probably need to 'sudo ifconfig eth1 down;sudo rmmod rt2500;sudo modprobe rt2500' for it to be renamed.
[05:29] <Sephnroth> tell you what, does this even make a difference or is it fine as eth1?