[05:00] <jamie> i actually get a connection (seems to work great) with a remote ip, local ip, and remote dns servers, but can't ping the remote ip or anything beyond it..
[05:00] <intelikey> hmmmm well  if dr_willis was around he could answer ya Jucato
[05:00] <Napa> with network
[05:00] <daveyj> i accidentally broke my X i think
[05:00] <jamie> probably just a pppd problem...
[05:00] <daveyj> something changed since my last reboot apparently because it was working fine last time
[05:00] <LeeJunFan> jamie: run 'ip route' and see if you have a default line
[05:00] <daveyj> wont load glx
[05:01] <morghanphoenix> Is there a way to update KDE with apt and not do the full edgy thing?
[05:02] <LeeJunFan> Napa: ugh, linuxprinting.org printer listing page doesn't load with konqueror or firefox, seems broken. Are you sure your printer isn't listed when you go into system settings/printers and add a printer?
[05:02] <jamie> nope..
[05:03] <yonkeltron> if i have an AMD64 turion, do i really need the 64bit kubuntu install cd?
[05:03] <jamie> LeeJunFan: nope, don't.. (i mean, it's through my eth1, not ppp0)
[05:03] <felixjet> how can i extract a CD from unit button instead of umount it first from linux?
[05:03] <morghanphoenix> the regular version works on 64s, or so I've heard, have an athlon myself.
[05:03] <LeeJunFan> jamie: either way - you need a default gw to get past your next hop.
[05:04] <jamie> LeeJunFan: should it point at my local ip or the remote?
[05:04] <LeeJunFan> jamie: remote.
[05:04] <Napa> I'll retry
[05:04] <LeeJunFan> jamie: sudo ip route add default via [ip of your router or next hop]
[05:04] <daveyj> :(
[05:05] <jamie> LeeJunFan: have to disconnect to try it, brb ;-)
[05:05] <Napa> it found 2570 .... I guess that will work
[05:05] <LeeJunFan> Napa: yeah, I was going to suggest that too, it probably will.
[05:05] <intelikey> yonkeltron you can use the 32 bit if you like
[05:05] <LeeJunFan> Napa: if linuxprinting.org was working that'd likely have our answer.
[05:08] <LeeJunFan> Napa: if that doesn't work perhaps there's a .ppd file somewhere on that CD, that's really all you need. If you had the .ppd file when kde asks you for a driver you just hit the button for the driver, and point to that ppd file.
[05:08] <lontra> !mirrors
[05:08] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[05:08] <felixjet> how can i extract a CD from unit button instead of umount it first from linux?
[05:09] <intelikey> felixjet syntax error in question.
[05:09] <LeeJunFan> felixjet: use a paper clip.
[05:10] <felixjet> intelikey: yea sorry english is not my main language
[05:10] <LeeJunFan> felixjet: you can't just pop open the CD tray, you have to unmount first.
[05:10] <felixjet> i mean, when i click on the phisical button of the CD to eject it
[05:10] <intelikey> felixjet use the "eject" command
[05:10] <felixjet> it dont works
[05:10] <moffa> "eject cdrom"
[05:10] <felixjet> i must use eject comman from linux
[05:10] <LeeJunFan> felixjet: something is probably still using it.
[05:10] <LeeJunFan> felixjet: but that works? from command line?
[05:11] <intelikey> eject
[05:11] <intelikey> eject -t
[05:11] <felixjet> yea
[05:11] <intelikey> eject
[05:11] <intelikey> eject -t
[05:11] <intelikey> :)
[05:11] <felixjet> from right click on the cdrom on deskton
[05:11] <felixjet> desktop*
[05:11] <felixjet> and then eject
[05:11] <felixjet> but i want to eject it just by pressing the unit button!
[05:11] <felixjet> it is possible'
[05:11] <LeeJunFan> felixjet: did you create the user who has mounted the cdrom after or during install?
[05:11] <intelikey> no
[05:12] <felixjet> :(
[05:12] <jamie_> LeeJunFan: ok, it looks like this: Cannot determine ethernet address for proxy ARP (i have defaultroute and replacedefaultroute set up)
[05:12] <LeeJunFan> felixjet: id [username]  and see if cdrom is a listed group.
[05:12] <lontra_> what's seveas-repository?
[05:13] <felixjet> yep LeeJunFan
[05:13] <Ash-Fox> !ipv6
[05:13] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[05:13] <LeeJunFan> felixjet: I dunno why it would be not ejecting from kde then.
[05:13] <felixjet> yea! it eject from KDE
[05:14] <LeeJunFan> jamie_: set up in where?
[05:14] <felixjet> i was talking about it doesnt eject by pressing the cdrom eject button
[05:14] <LeeJunFan> felixjet: oh, I thought it ejected only from command line.
[05:14] <felixjet> the one on pc
[05:14] <LeeJunFan> felixjet: oh, that's normal.
[05:14] <felixjet> thats shi... :( xD
[05:14] <jamie_> LeeJunFan: in /etc/ppp/peers/sprint
[05:14] <felixjet> i always click and wait for the cd
[05:14] <felixjet> haha
[05:15] <dennister> !OpenSSH
[05:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about OpenSSH - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:15] <dennister> !SSH
[05:15] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[05:15] <jamie_> but i can't even ping that remote ip (maybe it's dropping icmp?)
[05:15] <intelikey> !info openssh-server
[05:15] <ubotu> openssh-server: Secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.2p1-7ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 200 kB, installed size 540 kB
[05:15] <intelikey> !info openssh-client
[05:15] <ubotu> openssh-client: Secure shell client, an rlogin/rsh/rcp replacement. In component main, is standard. Version 1:4.2p1-7ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 524 kB, installed size 1272 kB
[05:16] <LeeJunFan> jamie_: could be. you are booting back/forth between windows and linux on this machine?
[05:16] <Jucato> intelikey: /set bell_beeps ON
[05:16] <dennister> !kill
[05:16] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[05:16] <jamie_> LeeJunFan:  i tried adding the route manually but still could not ping. then I tried adding a route to the remote IP thorugh my local IP. nope, no dual boot, kubuntu only
[05:16] <intelikey> Jucato yes.  did you also find the one for only the pm beeps ?
[05:16] <Jucato> intelikey: unfortunately, I don't know what level to set beep_msg_level... setting it to ALL beeps even on join/parts/leave
[05:17] <jamie_> LeeJunFan: maybe it's actually able to get to the remote IP, and just swallowing my ICMP pings; but a dig www.google.com @<IP_ADDRESS> fails as well..
[05:17] <Jucato> intelikey: in short..... now :(
[05:17] <Jucato> s/now/no
[05:17] <intelikey> level "highlight"   ?
[05:17] <LeeJunFan> jamie_: is your remote IP private or a real IP?
[05:18] <Jucato> i'll try
[05:18] <jamie_> LeeJunFan: I'll put whole output in paste in just a sec...
[05:18] <LeeJunFan> jamie_: okay, I'll bbiab.
[05:18] <Jucato> intelikey: hm... dunno if it works...
[05:18] <intelikey> Jucato i'm not actually recalling it but guessing.
[05:18] <Jucato> intelikey: ok didn't work. :)
[05:19] <TehUni> are the US servers getting destroyed right now? apt-get update won't finish and it's taking about 30min to download firefox...
[05:19] <Jucato> TehUni: try switching to another server or mirror
[05:20] <intelikey> TehUni if apt-get update won't finish  then you prolly shouldn't be trying to install anything....  unless you like broken/borked/hosed packages.
[05:20] <TehUni> mmm... makes sense
[05:21] <jerp> do they have help files at 'help.ubuntu.com/com' on how to get onto the net for a newb?
[05:21] <jamie_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28580/
[05:21] <TehUni> what's a mirror for us.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[05:21] <Furesho> the font smoothing that's default in kubuntu (and most any linux i've seen) is more like cleartype and is meant for lcd displays. is there any way to do font smoothing that's more like windows' "standard" font smoothing?
[05:21] <Furesho> (i have a crt)
[05:21] <intelikey> nl.archive.ubuntu.com
[05:21] <Jobberwacky> disable hinting maybe?
[05:22] <jamie_> LeeJunFan: sorry, didn't address it directly to you, did you see it? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28580/
[05:22] <Jobberwacky> and use bold fonts, that's basically what windows does
[05:22] <intelikey> or actually i think that backward... but as the kids say "same diff"
[05:22] <jerp> kick me if I get to obnoxious in all my newbiness
[05:22] <gop_> hey any here know why I am getting this error 4038: tree connect failed: ERRDOS - ERRnosuchshare (You specified an invalid share name)
[05:22] <gop_>     when I do mount -a
[05:23] <jamie_> Furesho: I think Windows "standard" smoothing isn't smoothing at all. look at it carefully. there's no smoothing. however, i've had luck in KDE's font setup (control panel) but setting smoothing to "light" on CRT's.
[05:23] <intelikey> gop_ samba ?
[05:23] <jamie_> gop_: do youknow what the relevant /etc/fstab says?
[05:24] <gop_> yea let show you
[05:24] <jamie_> gop_: yeah, sounds like you can't connect to a samba (windows) share
[05:24] <Furesho> no, there is some smoothing, definitely. if you turn off the smoothing in windows altogether, you'll see jaggies everywherer
[05:24] <Furesho> -r
[05:24] <jamie_> Furesho: hmm. it's probably pretty light.
[05:24] <gop_> /gopunix/Music /media/music   smbfs  auto,credentials=/root/.credentials,uid=1000,umask=000,user  0 0
[05:24] <gop_> .///gopunix/Music /media/music   smbfs  auto,credentials=/root/.credentials,uid=1000,umask=000,user  0 0
[05:24] <gop_> it correct
[05:24] <jamie_> Furesho: the thing that bugs me most about linux font handling is the lack of proper kerning on many fonts.
[05:24] <Jobberwacky> Furesho, disable hinting and just leave anti aliasing
[05:25] <gop_> jamie_,  why
[05:25] <jamie_> actually that's a limitation of qt3 (and thus kde) i guess and will be remedied soon.
[05:25] <gop_> jamie_,  I am able to browser it
[05:25] <gop_> and  i am able to do smbmount
[05:25] <gop_> but not thru fstab
[05:25] <jamie_> gop_: try deleting the ./ from the beginning of the line...
[05:26] <gop_> !smbmount
[05:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smbmount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:26] <gop_> jamie_,  that was my mistake it has no ./
[05:26] <gop_> " //gopunix/Music /media/music   smbfs  auto,credentials=/root/.credentials,uid=1000,umask=000,user  0 0"
[05:26] <jamie_> gop_: ahh hmm. dunno ;-) haven't used it in a while.
[05:26] <Furesho> hmmm... gotta restart kde to see if it worked
[05:26] <Furesho> brb
[05:26] <jamie_> Furesho: actually
[05:26] <jamie_> Furesho: you just have to open a new window (program
[05:26] <intelikey> gop_ why two / ?
[05:27] <jamie_> intelikey: it's samba weirdness
[05:27] <Furesho> well, if that's the case, it didn't work
[05:27] <gop_> I only need one /gopunix the share name
[05:27] <gop_> it two for samba
[05:27] <jamie_> Furesho: did you just change it in control panel
[05:27] <gop_> the unc
[05:27] <Furesho> yyyyup
[05:27] <LeeJunFan> jamie_: hrm, everything looks good in the ppp output.
[05:27] <jamie_> intelikey: it's to match the double backslash convention in windows \\servername\sharename
[05:27] <Furesho> it said it'll work in newly opened apps, so i opened kate, and same ol' cleartype-ish smoothing
[05:27] <gop_> can I have \\servername\sharename\sharedir
[05:28] <jamie_> Furesho: reduce the smoothing to "light"
[05:28] <jamie_> LeeJunFan: any idea why i can't ping the remote ip?
[05:28] <Furesho> tried it already
[05:28] <Furesho> same results
[05:28] <intelikey> gop_ no \ is escape char in linux
[05:28] <gop_> but in the fstab
[05:28] <gop_> /
[05:28] <gop_>  //
[05:28] <jamie_> Furesho: you could actually disable smoothing on small fonts... say, 1-8. might be crisper.
[05:28] <BonBonTheJon_> anyone with edgy have CUPS work right
[05:28] <jamie_> you can do that right in kde cp also
[05:29] <intelikey> \\ == \     so \\\\ would be the same as \\ in windows but linux wont read \\ as /      so no.
[05:29] <jamie_> gop_: you have it right... double FORWARD slashes // for samba mounts, not \\. \\ is windows.
[05:29] <LeeJunFan> jamie_: lame of them to filter icmp on everything, makes it tough to test what part is broken.
[05:29] <jamie_> LeeJunFan: yeah... you think that's what's going on?
[05:30] <gop_> hmm jamie_  so why won't it allow me to connect it mounts my drives in windows
[05:30] <LeeJunFan> jamie_: I think so, I can't ping their DNS servers or that gateway.
[05:30] <jamie_> LeeJunFan: probably means traceroute doesn't work too, i think that relies on icmp too
[05:30] <LeeJunFan> jamie_: yeah, it does.
[05:30] <jamie_> LeeJunFan: it all might be behind a firewall and only accessible from a sprint pcs card...
[05:30] <gop_> !samba
[05:30] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:31] <Furesho> okay. i think i have to at least restart kde, cuz i just turned off anti-aliasing all together, and opened an app and i see the same smoothing.
[05:31] <CVirus> Any reports of successful upgrades to Edgy Eft ?
[05:31] <jamie_> LeeJunFan: i have an idea... maybe i have to do it first in Windows, maybe it messes with the firmware somehow.
[05:32] <LeeJunFan> jamie_: I doubt it. But you never know.
[05:32] <BonBonTheJon_> CVirus: I'm almost done downloading for Edgy, my update will be done shortly after that
[05:32] <soundmaster80> i have an off topic question. I need a sql client to interface with oracle database for a class i'm taking
[05:32] <jamie_> LeeJunFan: yeah... i'm pretty out of ideas. ;-) i'll give it a shot. someone said that they suspected the card get a new PRI or tower list or something...
[05:33] <soundmaster80> i would like to know if anyone has suggestions
[05:33] <LeeJunFan> jamie_: it appears to be doing everything except setting the default route, why I don't know when you have the defaultroute option set.
[05:33] <intelikey> well i just tested fstab doesn't seem to care how many / you put in there anyway.   " //dev/hdb ////var///cache//apt/archives ext2 nosuid 0 0 "   works with mount -a    so i'll make a note of that to ignore it next time.
[05:33] <BonBonTheJon_> soundmaster80: the open office database program might be able to connect to Oracle
[05:33] <jamie_> LeeJunFan: here i'll paste something i tried a few minutes ago too..
[05:33] <soundmaster80> thank you bon bon, but i'm looking for something with a command prompt
[05:34] <soundmaster80> just something i can access the DB and end up with a SQL> prompt
[05:34] <BonBonTheJon_> soundmaster80: sorry, I've only played with mysql
[05:34] <jamie_> LeeJunFan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28585/
[05:34] <soundmaster80> yeah, that is my problem
[05:34] <jamie_> LeeJunFan: brb...
[05:34] <atticstorm> I would like to delete (remove rm) all ~*.tmp files in a folder tree and have tried to use rm -r ~*.tmp but it did not work.  How can I do this?  Thanks.
[05:35] <jamie_> btw if anyone is looking for a laptop recommendation, the ibm thinkpad X41 tablet works great in breezy or later...
[05:35] <soundmaster80> another one is for the e1505 from dell
[05:35] <jamie_> the stylus and fingerprint reader don't work out of the box but they're usable...
[05:35] <soundmaster80> just make sure you get the 3945 intel card
[05:36] <jamie_> another one for a TC1100 tablet from HP... everything worked (including stylus) with no configuration with breezy.
[05:36] <LeeJunFan> yay, speaking of ppp, looks like one of my mppp T1's just went down. :(
[05:36] <soundmaster80> stupid me maxed everything out but with just 1gb RAM
[05:36] <jamie_> ;-)
[05:36] <intelikey> looks like linux ignores extra slashes all around.  who would have thought it.  (but i knew this, just forgot.)
[05:36] <intelikey> tty3 [greg@~]  cd .///////////////////////////////////////////////docs///////
[05:36] <intelikey> tty3 [greg@~/docs]
[05:36] <jamie_> LeeJunFan: sounds like you're going to have some fun..
[05:37] <jamie_> LeeJunFan: be back later, going to try to see if I can get it working in windows. who knows?! ;-)
[05:37] <LeeJunFan> jamie_: I've got it setup to keep retrying, hopefully it'll cure itself in 10 mins or less, I'll give my provider a few mins before I call.
[05:37] <LeeJunFan> jamie_: okay.
[05:37] <jamie_> bbl
[05:39] <atticstorm> Anyone have experience in deleting a like set of files down a folder tree?  Like deleting temp files.
[05:39] <The_Vox> ok, let's see if there's any 64bit users here...anybody know if edgy got support for 32bit apps on 64bit kubuntu out-of-the-box? or did they stay 64pure?
[05:39] <soundmaster80> is there a way to use firefox's "open containing folder" in konqueror?
[05:40] <The_Vox> atticstorm: you use find and xargs with a pipe in between
[05:40] <atticstorm> The_Vox: A few months ago one of the articles in Linux Journal talked about this.  The piece was written by the new editor.  Don't know the date, sorry.
[05:41] <intelikey> atticstorm what do you want to rm ?
[05:41] <atticstorm> The_Vox: I will do some man work on xargs, thanks.  I am looking go get rid of Word temp files on a customer drive to save room on the CD's.
[05:41] <The_Vox> atticstorm: IIRC, it'd go something like "find ./ -name "*whatever*" | xargs rm -f" but I'd really recommend reading the manpages to make sure, I don't remember the exact switches
[05:42] <intelikey> atticstorm give me something to work with.   are they .tmp or what ?
[05:43] <intelikey> is there a common denominator visable ?
[05:43] <intelikey> all end with  ~  ?
[05:44] <ubuntu_> Anyone have a suggestion for repairing a NTFS MFT?
[05:44] <intelikey> but if you don't want me to bark out a string just stay silent......
[05:44] <ubuntu_> intelikey: How do you use pastebin?
[05:44] <atticstorm> intelikey:  Looking to delete all of the ~XXXXX.tmp files in a directory tree.  Thoughts?  The_Vox was helpful with pipes and the xargs command.
[05:45] <Johnsandman> apt-get give fault main archive is not working cannot downloading any thing for my amd64 :|
[05:45] <intelikey> ubuntu_ you go to the url and then copy / paste your text and select the submit link and bring the resulting url back with you.
[05:45] <dennister> ubuntu_: can u change ur nic pls?
[05:46] <The_Vox> why don't the ubuntu/kubuntu people put actually useful information about releases somewhere?
[05:46] <macconline> hi.... i have a  problem with sound system 5.1.... only 1 of 5 speakers fine
[05:46] <dennister> i realize ur probably in livecd mode...but it's confusing
[05:47] <intelikey> atticstorm   find /<base.dir> -name *.tmp -exec rm -i '{}' \;            intrupret the <base.dir> as where you want to start    and if you don't want to confirm all of them  don't use the   -i  switch.
[05:47] <dennister> ty kubuntu
[05:47] <atticstorm> intelikey: Thank you very much, will give it a try.
[05:48] <intelikey> be advised that is permanant.  so if you get file.tmp that should have stayed,   oh well...
[05:48] <kubuntu> intelikey: Oh I meant you.  In component universe, is optional. Version 1.19.6-21ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 201 kB, installed size 496 kB
[05:49] <Naomarik> anyone know about running kubuntu within windows via vmware? I'm wondering whether it's beneficial to install the proprietary ATI drivers..
[05:50] <intelikey> Naomarik there may be info on the wiki that would help there.
[05:50] <intelikey> !ati
[05:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:50] <intelikey> it's not all a howto  it has some other info
[05:50] <kubuntu> Good grief who tags teh stuff in the repos
[05:51] <kubuntu> Blind one eyed jack?
[05:51] <intelikey> kubuntu probably the developers them selves
[05:52] <kubuntu> tell them to stop smoking software crack
[05:52] <LeeJunFan> poopie! that T1 isn't coming back, and neither is the router I rebooted from remote. hehe Owell, later guys.
[05:52] <intelikey> you tell em'    they don't answer to me....
[05:52] <rredd4> i did a dist upgrade and got this error (i cannot boot into kubuntu, i am in windoze)   relocation error: /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6:  Symbol dl out of memory, version GLIBC_Private not defined in file ld-linux.so.2 with link time references
[05:53] <Johnsandman> are there other archive kubuntu working mine is not working for downloading files in new kubuntu :|
[05:53] <CVirus> oh oo
[05:53] <RobNyc_> how many are loving kubuntu edgy lol
[05:53] <kubuntu> Does anyone use the tags in adept?
[05:53] <CVirus> rredd4: did had to dist-upgrade 2 times before rebooting
[05:54] <rredd4> no
[05:54] <rredd4> once
[05:54] <rredd4> i was locked up
[05:54] <CVirus> rredd4: are you upgrading from dapper to edgy ?
[05:54] <rredd4> yes
[05:54] <Lam_> RobNyc_: i love kubuntu edgy
[05:54] <Lam_> slickness ftw
[05:54] <RobNyc_> :)
[05:54] <Jucato> edgy-ness...
[05:54] <CVirus> rredd4: you should have followed the upgrade notes http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.10-release.php
[05:54] <rredd4> CVirus i did read them
[05:54] <Johnsandman> I love kubuntu edgy if i can normal download from the main nl.archive :|
[05:55] <intelikey> Johnsandman someone said the us. server/s were acting up  you can try the nl.
[05:55] <CVirus> rredd4: have you dist-upgraded twice as it says ?
[05:55] <intelikey> ah you are using nl....  hmmmm
[05:55] <cellofellow> twice? you meen I have to do this again?
[05:55] <CVirus> rredd4: err ... it doesnt say so
[05:55] <CVirus> no no
[05:55] <felixjet> !!!!!!!!!!
[05:55] <CVirus> sorry .. my bad
[05:55] <felixjet> firefox just crashed omg
[05:55] <rredd4> CVirus the first time locked me up and i cannot boot into linux
[05:55] <felixjet> is there anyway to find the websites i was watching?!?!?!
[05:56] <CVirus> rredd4: have you sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop python-qt3 python-kde3 ubuntu-minimal ?
[05:56] <Johnsandman> intelkey>don't work either I think I have to wait a bit
[05:56] <CVirus> felixjet: firefox session saver extension
[05:56] <Jucato> felixjet: if you're using Firefox 2.0 on Edgy, there's a session restore
[05:56] <felixjet> 1.5 on dapper
[05:56] <rredd4> CVirus it will not let me do that, just gives me the same error as i typed
[05:56] <kubuntu> Hi Jucato
[05:56] <cellofellow> Jucato: ought that to be part of Firefox 2 on any OS?
[05:56] <intelikey> Johnsandman tod is key on release day
[05:56] <CVirus> rredd4: give me the exact erro please
[05:56] <CVirus> error*
[05:56] <Jucato> cellofellow: yes
[05:56] <motorhead> hai
[05:57] <RobNyc_> CVirus, what r u doing there
[05:57] <CVirus> RobNyc_: but ... what are you doing here ?
[05:57] <macconline> hi.... i have a  problem with sound system 5.1.... only 1 of 5 speakers fine
[05:57] <RobNyc_> CVirus, chillin with you bro
[05:57] <cellofellow> Motorhead: are you going to say that each time you come on now?
[05:57] <intelikey> Jucato wouldn't it also be in the "history"
[05:57] <CVirus> RobNyc_: :-)
[05:57] <Johnsandman> intelkey> what u mean with tod ??
[05:57] <intelikey> any version
[05:57] <rredd4> CVirus  i did  relocation error: /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6:  Symbol dl out of memory, version GLIBC_Private not defined in file ld-linux.so.2 with link time references
[05:57] <Jucato> intelikey: only if you remember what you were viewing :)
[05:57] <intelikey> Johnsandman tod = time of day
[05:58] <Tontonq> Thanx For Free Kubuntu CDs! :D
[05:58] <Jucato> free?
[05:58] <Jucato> ah must be Dapper
[05:58] <Jucato> :P
[05:59] <intelikey> free like beer, or free like speach ?
[05:59] <Jucato> intelikey: both probably hehehe
[05:59] <CVirus> rredd4: google says nothing about it ... weird
[05:59] <Jucato> j/k
[05:59] <rredd4> CVirus  i am screwed... do I have to reinstall?
[05:59] <Motorhead> is it possible to have gnome and kde installled??? because idk which one i like more and wanna use both then just use one :S
[06:00] <Jucato> Motorhead: yes
[06:00] <kubuntu> intelikey: Interesting it's installed by default?
[06:00] <CVirus> rredd4: can you try running ldconfig ?
[06:00] <kubuntu> or the libs are at least
[06:00] <Jucato> you're just going to have some messy menus, iirc
[06:00] <Motorhead> cello: what?
[06:00] <kubuntu> Man Ubuntu is going to suck in two years
[06:00] <CVirus> kubuntu: keep this for yourself
[06:00] <Naomarik> hey intelikely, I guess my question earlier was can I run linux with 3d acceleration via vmware.. did some searches and looks like the answer is no :(
[06:01] <kubuntu> CVirus: Keep what?
[06:01] <rredd4> CVirus  i cannot get a console.  when i reboot into kubuntu, i get the same error i just typed
[06:01] <rredd4> in recovery console
[06:01] <CVirus> rredd4: you get the error and it freezes ?
[06:01] <rredd4> CVirus yes
[06:01] <CVirus> rredd4: I beleive you got no choice
[06:01] <rredd4> CVirus  wonderful...
[06:01] <Tontonq> i have found a local Privilege Escalation bug @ kde  which kubuntu use it
[06:01] <CVirus> rredd4: well
[06:01] <avuton> Is there a install (from) usbdisk planned? I don't even have or need a cdrom anymore except for when it comes to installing or repairing my distribution.
[06:02] <CVirus> rredd4: have you been installing unofficial software packages ?
[06:02] <Mansal> Somone here?
[06:02] <intelikey> kubuntu talking about gpm ?     it has to be both configured and started  normally init does the start  /etc/init.d/gpm start   called from /etc/rc2.d/S##gpm  at boot time.
[06:02] <rredd4> CVirus  ? like?
[06:02] <CVirus> rredd4: any unofficial software packages
[06:02] <intelikey> it's very handy for copy/paste in the console.
[06:02] <Mansal> Need help with my system
[06:02] <CVirus> rredd4: have you been using any repositores other than the official ones ?
[06:03] <Mansal> I cant strt it
[06:03] <CVirus> repositories*
[06:03] <rredd4> CVirus  wine
[06:03] <kubuntu> intelikey: Alright. What are the libs used by?
[06:03] <Mansal> start*
[06:03] <CVirus> rredd4: anything else ?
 intelikey: Alright. What are the libs used by?
[06:03] <rredd4> CVirus  no
[06:03] <CVirus> rredd4: cant help you ... sorry
[06:03] <kubuntu> can I query apt to find out what packages depend on a package?
[06:03] <intelikey> the libs are used by gpm i guess not sure what libs you mean.....
[06:03] <intelikey> !info gpm
[06:03] <Jucato> kubuntu: yes
[06:03] <ubotu> gpm: General Purpose Mouse Interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.19.6-21ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 201 kB, installed size 496 kB
[06:04] <CVirus> rredd4: did the system freeze while you were upgrading and it gave you this error ?
[06:04] <rredd4> CVirus yes
[06:04] <Mansal> When I try to start my new kubuntu 6.10, It frezes. It not loading.
[06:04] <kubuntu> intelikey: I saw it. The libgpm is installed already
[06:04] <CVirus> rredd4: total freeze ?
[06:04] <kubuntu> Jucato: How?
[06:04] <intelikey> kubuntu i'm not sure what might be depending on libgmp besides gpm
[06:04] <rredd4> CVirus i could not open any program, do any command, push the power button.  my mouse did work tho
[06:05] <kubuntu> that's what I thought. It's installed by default though gpm isn't
[06:05] <CVirus> rredd4: i beleive that it's X only which has freezed
[06:05] <Mansal> And, I start in recovery mode. It comes mutch text. After a while it totaly stops
[06:05] <Mansal> No terminal
[06:05] <Jucato> kubuntu: apt-cache show <package>
[06:05] <rredd4> CVirus is libc6 x?
[06:06] <CVirus> rredd4: err .. no
[06:06] <rredd4> CVirus that is what it was trying to install
[06:06] <Mansal> I get an unknown error code from DMA
[06:06] <Mansal> What is that?
[06:06] <TehUni> i just installed kubuntu edgy on my laptop, and it always boots into 640x480. the xorg.conf is right (far as i can tell). it's a dell inspiron 640m - intel 945 chipset. the resolution should be 1440x900. any ideas?
[06:06] <neoncode> Are their any good guids for running XLG on Kubunu Edgy with an ATI card?
[06:06] <neoncode> Guides sorry
[06:07] <kubuntu> CVirus: What should I keep?
[06:07] <Mansal> !DMA
[06:07] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. It makes hard disks & optical drives transfer data faster, and is almost always enabled in Ubuntu 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[06:07] <CVirus> kubuntu: what do you need ?
[06:07] <kubuntu> You said I should keep that to myself
[06:07] <kubuntu> I was confused what that was about
[06:07] <CVirus> kubuntu: keep you troll-like opinion for yourself
[06:07] <kubuntu> CVirus: Oh about Ubuntu?
[06:08] <CVirus> kubuntu: yes
[06:08] <kubuntu> CVirus: Just find it hard to see how they are going to remain cutting edge and still only ship one CD
[06:08] <CVirus> kubuntu: now you have the right to talk ... I thought you were starting a flame wat
[06:08] <CVirus> war*
[06:09] <kubuntu> We are already cutting things cause of space
[06:09] <intelikey> kubuntu apt-cache r/depends libgpm1   both turn up blank  ......
[06:09] <kubuntu> and edubuntu is removing all KDE apps from thier release even though there is great reason to keep them
[06:09] <daveyj> help i broke my x :(
[06:10] <daveyj> cant load xorg
[06:10] <daveyj> errr
[06:10] <kubuntu> daveyj: calm down :)
[06:10] <intelikey> kubuntu ah ha.... found something.
[06:10] <intelikey> tty3 [greg@~]  apt-cache depends libgpmg1
[06:10] <intelikey> libgpmg1
[06:10] <intelikey>   Depends: libc6
[06:10] <intelikey>   Suggests: gpm
[06:10] <intelikey>   Conflicts: <libgpm1>
[06:10] <daveyj> glx
[06:10] <kubuntu>  it's not nearly as bad as it feels the first time :)
[06:10] <daveyj> not xorg ;)
[06:11] <rredd4> is there any other alternative then a complete reinstall of kubuntu with this error?  relocation error: /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6:  Symbol dl out of memory, version GLIBC_Private not defined in file ld-linux.so.2 with link time references.  I did a dist upgrade from dapper to edgy.
[06:11] <daveyj> i know i've broken it a million times.. however i didnt do it this time
[06:11] <daveyj> some upgrades did
[06:11] <intelikey> looks like libc6 is the reason it's installed by default
[06:11] <kubuntu> intelikey: See I don't get that. Why install something based on a recommendation then not install the recommendation?
[06:11] <kubuntu> intelikey: No it depends on libc6 not the other way around
[06:12] <kubuntu> daveyj: Well Fix it the same way :)
[06:12] <daveyj> :)
[06:12] <intelikey> you say i'm shooting backwards....
[06:12] <intelikey> thy this then
[06:12] <intelikey>  apt-cache rdepends libgpmg1
[06:12] <daveyj> the xorg you gave me last time worked fine.. but then i apt'd all the new updates
[06:13] <kubuntu> libgpmg1 depends on libc6
[06:13] <kubuntu> It recommends gpm
[06:13] <intelikey> try it.
[06:13] <intelikey> try it
[06:13] <intelikey> apt-cache rdepends libgpmg1
[06:13] <daveyj> i should do that?
[06:13] <kubuntu> daveyj: No me
[06:13] <daveyj> oh lol
[06:14] <kubuntu> Hmm is ncurses installed by default?
[06:14] <intelikey> prolly
[06:14] <intelikey> w3m and vim are
[06:14] <dennister> whole system froze/crashed...back now
[06:14] <kubuntu> wait vim needs libgpmg1?
[06:15] <intelikey> it's in the list
[06:15] <kubuntu> Hmm Muy interesting
[06:15] <kubuntu> Yeah I brushed over it :)
[06:15] <kubuntu> repo tags suck :)
[06:15] <kubuntu>  and has anyone tried to recover an NTFS partition?
[06:16] <intelikey> but "w3m"  is for sure a defalt on all *buntu systems
[06:16] <dennister> I'm trying to purge my system completely of sun-java, mozilla, and mozilla-firefox...has anyone ever done this b4?
[06:16] <intelikey> kubuntu yeah testdisk
[06:16] <Dasnipa`> ab 86% done with download yay
[06:17] <intelikey> i haven't used it on ntfs but others have. i have used it on vfat though kubuntu
[06:17] <intelikey> partition table is partition table
[06:17] <dennister> i've already done as much as I can through purging with adept, but there are still vestiges in my filesystem and i want to make sure that I do it safely
[06:17] <PixelCloud> sigh
[06:18] <PixelCloud> my sound stopped working after upgrading to edgy
[06:18] <Tontonq> anyone here regular expression master :|
[06:18] <PixelCloud> i need help :(
[06:18] <t3hwiz0rd-server> kubuntu update taking 4 hours lol
[06:18] <intelikey> dennister debfoster/deborphen
[06:18] <kubuntu> intelikey: Yeah I thought the same thing and i wrote to the authour this morning to tell him that his siftware is apparently missing a few menus
[06:18] <PixelCloud> i downloaded alternative cd and updated via apt
[06:18] <dennister> intelikey: that will remove the vestiges?
[06:19] <kubuntu> intelikey: I was hoping to have this fixed tonight. seems that might not happen. :(
[06:19] <lontra> how do i set up my vfat windows partition so that i can access it automatically from kubuntu?  i know i need to edit /etc/fstab
[06:19] <dennister> i'm in configure konqueror now, removing the plugins that mention these items...but stopped cause of the safety concern
[06:19] <intelikey> dennister it will remove "no longer needed libs" if you are trimming the fat, that's a good way.
[06:20] <intelikey> !info testdisk
[06:20] <ubotu> testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.1-1 (dapper), package size 386 kB, installed size 1124 kB
[06:20] <kubuntu> lontra: in konqueror type man:/fstab
[06:20] <intelikey> kubuntu ^
[06:20] <kubuntu> intelikey: I know I have it.
[06:20] <kubuntu> intelikey: Hmm I wonder
[06:20] <dennister> k...will do...what about the plugins in konq that mention mozilla...leave only the netscape ones?
[06:22] <intelikey> lontra add "umask="  to the line,   man fstab for the specifics.    i normally just use umask=0   but a fmask=111,dmask=000   sould be more likable
[06:23] <daveyj> i'm going to cry :(
[06:23] <intelikey> daveyj ok.
[06:23] <intelikey> i'll cry with you......
[06:24] <Naomarik> so intelikey, do you just mainly answer linux questions all day?
[06:24] <dennister> intelikey: should i remove all the plugins in konq that mention mozilla? leave only the netscape ones?
[06:24] <intelikey> no actually i just collect data from the web for about 7 hours.....
[06:24] <Naomarik> oh?
[06:24] <kubuntu> Then uses it for the penguin swastika squad
[06:25] <kubuntu> intelikey: Do you have testdisk installed?
[06:25] <intelikey> dennister idk.
[06:25] <intelikey> kubuntu i think so why >?
[06:25] <kubuntu> have a FAT or NTFS drive?
[06:25] <dennister> <----doesn't want to screw up her only browser
[06:25] <dennister> idk?
[06:25] <intelikey> yeah vfat
[06:26] <Napa> why don't this command work in kubuntu ?   "gksudo gedit /usr/share/applications/dcpp.desktop"
[06:26] <intelikey> dennister idk == i don't know.
[06:26] <daveyj> why cant i fix this damn X.. nothing changed!
[06:26] <Ash-Fox> !w32codecs
[06:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:26] <dennister> k thx
[06:26] <Napa> ik get this errormessage: bash: gksudo: command not found
[06:26] <intelikey> Napa cause it's kdesu in kubuntu
[06:26] <Napa> ahh
[06:26] <Napa> thanx
[06:26] <intelikey> np
[06:26] <kubuntu> intelikey: can you look under the advanced menu for the Fat partition and tell me the options
[06:27] <kubuntu> I think it should be type and boot
[06:27] <intelikey> [  Type  ]   [  Boot  ]   [  Quit  ]
[06:28] <kubuntu> intelikey: OK under Boot what options do you have?
[06:28] <intelikey> [  Quit  ]   [Rebuild BS] [  Dump  ]   [Repair FAT]
[06:28] <PixelCloud> my sound wont work! it worked in dapper
[06:28] <PixelCloud> all the modules are loaded
[06:28] <kubuntu> Why don't I get that Repair option :(
[06:28] <PixelCloud> nothing is muted
[06:29] <intelikey> cause it's not fat
[06:29] <kubuntu> There should be one there for NTFS as well
[06:29] <intelikey> can't repair what isn't there ???
[06:29] <Dasnipa`> is there a way to change screensaver settings via the console?
[06:30] <intelikey> hehhe killall xscreensaver
[06:30] <intelikey> that changes it
[06:30] <Dasnipa`> right
[06:30] <avuton> Hrm, my mouse stops working after suspend, completely. Even after X restart. Any pointers to things I should check?
[06:30] <kubuntu>  I mailed Christophe and he mailed me back and said it should be there
[06:31] <intelikey> kubuntu did you  [Analyse ]    the drive first ?
[06:31] <daveyj> can someone help me fix my x? :(
[06:32] <intelikey> daveyj the only fix for an ex is a divorce
[06:32] <intelikey> oh X server
[06:32] <intelikey> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg
[06:33] <daveyj> ;)
[06:33] <kubuntu> intelikey: doesn't matter if I do or not
[06:33] <intelikey> read and answer all the questions carefully.
[06:35] <kubuntu> Why didn't someone tell me about w3m before?
[06:35] <intelikey> i do seem to spend a lot of time in here though, dont i...........
[06:35] <intelikey> kubuntu you didn't ask ?
[06:36] <kubuntu>  i did
[06:36] <kubuntu> I got back links2 as the answer
[06:36] <daveyj> intelikey: i did that and it still doesnt work
[06:37] <lontra> is there any way to make knetworkmanager remember my WEP key?
[06:37] <kubuntu> intelikey: Do what I do keep changing your name so people keep guessing :)
[06:37] <kubuntu> hi Seveas
[06:37] <intelikey> kubuntu links2  and/or  elinks     can both do graphic web browsing in the console using frame buffering
[06:37] <daveyj> should i just reinstall kubuntu? :(
[06:38] <kubuntu> daveyj: For an X problem?
[06:38] <intelikey> daveyj if you can't fix it, and you can't display us an error message to try to guess at, and you think reinstalling will work;  then, gopher it.
[06:39] <daveyj> well the error is that it cant load glx
[06:39] <intelikey> that's " go fur it "    as sure why not.
[06:39] <nixternal> what is wrong with x daveyj?
[06:39] <daveyj> not even positive its x
[06:39] <daveyj> it was working fine, didnt change anything
[06:39] <intelikey> glx
[06:39] <kubuntu> It's the driver?
[06:39] <daveyj> but then i rebooted and it stopped working
[06:39] <intelikey> !glx
[06:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:39] <daveyj> i did a lot of updates
[06:40] <daveyj> when th eofficial edgy release came out.. i was using the pre-release
[06:40] <intelikey> is it ati nvidia intel ???
[06:40] <daveyj> nvidia geforce 5500
[06:40] <intelikey> !nv
[06:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:40] <daveyj> how can i go to that if i cant start x? :(
[06:41] <kubuntu> daveyj: w3m
[06:41] <kubuntu> w3m URL
[06:41] <intelikey> ok change the driver from nvidia to nv  in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf     and try running startx
[06:42] <yonkeltron> anyone have a compaq laptop?
[06:42] <daveyj> okay that actually worked
[06:42] <daveyj> nv
[06:42] <kubuntu> anywho I'll moan about the tags late
[06:42] <intelikey> nv is the free driver.
[06:42] <kubuntu> good night all
[06:42] <daveyj> but now beryl is broken :(
[06:43] <intelikey> nv is the free driver.
[06:43] <t3hwiz0rd-server> when the edgy update is done do youj need to reinstall nvidia drivers or something?
[06:43] <intelikey> so what you need to do is go to that wiki and totally reinstall your nvidia driver.
[06:43] <daveyj> hwo do i remove the regular nvidia driver and then reinstall it so beryl works again?
[06:43] <daveyj> oh
[06:43] <daveyj> okay
[06:43] <daveyj> lol
[06:44] <intelikey> did you get the url ?
[06:44] <intelikey> !nv
[06:44] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:44] <intelikey> and there are others also.
[06:44] <intelikey> search the ubuntu wiki's
[06:45] <intelikey> ok i'm off to lunch. back snortly
[06:45] <Ash-Fox> !changelog
[06:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about changelog - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:45] <Ash-Fox> Drat
[06:46] <daveyj> that link doesnt work
[06:46] <Ash-Fox> Anybody happen to know where I can find a changelog that shows the changes since Dapper?
[06:46] <Ash-Fox> daveyj, which link?
[06:47] <lontra> i just installed kubuntu edgy after a couple times rebooting i went to open emacs-snapshot and my fonts wnet from fine and pretty to completely ugly and nearly impossibly to read...anyone know why this happened or how i can fix it?
[06:47] <Ash-Fox> lontra, try export LANG=C, then try opening emacs
[06:47] <Ash-Fox> (assuming that's the console based emacs)
[06:47] <lontra> no this is an X based one
[06:47] <Ash-Fox> Ah, no idea then
[06:48] <orkid__> snapshot == svn or cvs?
[06:48] <lontra> cvs i think
[06:48] <lontra> but it happens in emacs21.4a too
[06:48] <daveyj> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/binarydriverhowto doesnt exist
[06:48] <orkid__> maybe try apt-get remove, and apt-get install .
[06:48] <lontra> orkid__: i've tried that...nothing
[06:48] <orkid__> odd, ... can't use emacs (not snapshot) ?
[06:48] <Ash-Fox> Where do I define the LANG parameter on (k)ubuntu distros anyway?
[06:49] <orkid__> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:49] <lontra> orkid__: both emacs and the snapshot are horribly ugly fonts
[06:51] <intelikey> daveyj  wget https://help.ubuntu.com/community/binarydriverhowto ; mv binarydriverhowto binarydriverhowto.html  ; w3m binarydriverhowto.html          but that wont get the internal links
[06:51] <daveyj> lol i got it.. i'm gunna try and reboot
[06:51] <daveyj> brb
[06:52] <orkid__> lontra: sorry , can't find info on why this might be happening
[06:54] <pibarnas> I'm trying to download edgy efty, but my ktorrent is stopped for long time (about 4 hours) at 99,49%. How could I resume the download? is it possible?
[06:54] <lontra> orkid__: no worries...i've just had tons of little wierd stuff happening in kubuntu edgy...it seems more unstable on my machine than debian unstable
[06:54] <orkid__> close ktoreent, open it again.
[06:55] <orkid__> lontra: could try a fresh install... i'm running edgy now (been for a while)... i'll try emacs-snapshot and see how it works (i'm running both kde and gnome).
[06:55] <ecokiller> any problems with kubuntu 6.1?
[06:55] <lontra> orkid__: i did try a fresh install :/
[06:55] <lontra> orkid__: also i can't get knetworkmanager to remember my WEP password
[06:55] <lontra> which is annoying
[06:55] <orkid__> pibarnas: maybe no one has the bit you're looking for, (possibly true if 0 seeders)
[06:56] <orkid__> i don't use wireless, so i can't help with that. sorry.
[06:56] <Ash-Fox> !wifi
[06:56] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:56] <Ash-Fox> I have always found those docs really helpful whenever setting up a WI-FI card
[06:56] <heevhu> hi all
[06:57] <Ash-Fox> Atheros cards though were the least trouble, I didn't even need documentation, that worked immidately.
[06:57] <ecokiller> is it still safe to run both a copy of windows and xp and kubuntu on the same machine?
[06:57] <InteliWasp> is there any thing during the upgrade that needs my attention or can i just go to sleep and let it finish D/Ling and install overnight?
[06:57] <pibarnas> I close ktorrent and opened it again. The download continued, thank you very much!
[06:58] <Ash-Fox> ecokiller, yes.
[06:58] <orkid__> pibarnas, no problem
[06:58] <dennister> I'm hitting the sack pps...good night
[06:59] <DaveyJ> okay
[06:59] <DaveyJ> now i'm in X
[06:59] <DaveyJ> but with nv =/
[07:00] <ecokiller> for those people who run dual boot (windows and kubuntu) what are the things you cannot do with kubuntu that you need windows for?
[07:00] <ecokiller> im thinking about getting rid of xp
[07:00] <pibarnas> May I check md5sum now the download finished? How do I do that?
[07:01] <orkid__> bitorrent does it automatically.
[07:01] <Shadow_mil> pibarnas: md5sum --help  || man md5sum
[07:02] <Shadow_mil> but if you downloaded it from a torrent, it will be fine
[07:02] <LeeJunFan> ecokiller: games, and transfer data between my phone and computer.
[07:02] <foutrelis> I tried to install Kubuntu edgy but it locks up after the 6/6 step of the installer. :( Has anyone experience this as well?
[07:02] <Shadow_mil> as orkid__ said, its already been done
[07:03] <orkid__> lontra: http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot2is4.png
[07:03] <ecokiller> leejunfan - i actually had problems with an earlier kubuntu release on connecting to my wireless network. Is it generally easy?
[07:03] <orkid__> lontra: that's emacs after an apt-get install emacs-snapshot under amd64 (i don't know if i have the 6.10 'release' but have the devel version updated)
[07:04] <LeeJunFan> ecokiller: normally as long as your hardware is supported out of the box.
[07:04] <LeeJunFan> ecokiller: unfortunately some vendors don't cooperate by sharing specs for their chipsets and drivers can be a pain.
[07:04] <ecokiller> okay, i have a new laptop from HP... i guess ill give the demo CD a try and see what happens
[07:06] <ecokiller> oh, how are the new boot times and overall performance in the new kubuntu release?
[07:06] <georges> hey guys
[07:07] <ecokiller> hey georges
[07:07] <daveyj> :(
[07:07] <daveyj> i cant get this working!
[07:07] <georges> what is up with konqueror in 6.10? I can only see my home and the media directory.
[07:08] <ecokiller> cant help ya, hevent got it going yet :(
[07:08] <daveyj> f this i'm going to just reinstall kubuntu
[07:08] <daveyj> since theres the new release and everything
[07:08] <daveyj> if i could only find my cdrs
[07:08] <georges> i installed ubuntu, then just installed kubuntu-desktop
[07:08] <ecokiller> im actually downloading the torrent DVD right now
[07:08] <georges> worked fine
[07:08] <arunkale> !flashplayer
[07:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:08] <arunkale> how do i install flashplayer plugin for firefox
[07:09] <arunkale> !flashplayer-plugin
[07:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flashplayer-plugin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:09] <georges> arunkale, look into automatix
[07:09] <arunkale> ok
[07:09] <daveyj> exit
[07:09] <daveyj> whoops
[07:10] <orkid__> apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree (x86 only)
[07:10] <orkid__> apt-cache search flash
[07:10] <foutrelis> Hmmm.. I have succesfully installed ubuntu 6.06 in the past but today when I tried to install kubuntu 6.10 my computer locks up just after step 6/6 :(((
[07:11] <gnac> tried to install 6.10 today, selected my partitions, with root on /dev/hda3
[07:11] <ecokiller> foutrelis: someone just said the same thing minutes ago
[07:11] <gnac> installer said i didn't select a root drive???
[07:11] <foutrelis> yes.. that would be me :)
[07:11] <ecokiller> oh im drunk :)
[07:12] <foutrelis> I am sorry for posting the same thing twice but I am disappointed
[07:12] <sheft> Hey, I upgraded to edgy now, and my wine wont start... gonna play WoW =((
[07:13] <Naomarik> sux0r!! ;o
[07:13] <sheft> common problem?
[07:13] <Naomarik> no clue, i'm just emulating linux within windows via vmware
[07:13] <Naomarik> can't install k/ubuntu with my j micron ide controller
[07:13] <sheft> does it support open gl apps like world of warcraft game?
[07:14] <Naomarik> unfortunately vmware doesn't support 3d acceleration when virtualizing linux... but that's why i'm running windows natively :)
[07:15] <Philip5> Naomarik: it works with jmicron as long as you don't try a bios/fake-raid setup
[07:15] <sheft> aha, i thought u ran windows  thru linux but it was other way around :)
[07:15] <Naomarik> Philip5: is this new as of release of 6.10? i tried the preview release a few days ago and it still didn't work for me
[07:16] <ecokiller> i wish my torrent download was better than 17KB/s
[07:16] <Naomarik> yeah right now it's saving me the nuance of trying to get linux to work natively, more time to grind rank 10 in wow
[07:16] <Philip5> Naomarik: i'm running it right now with jmicron but with linux software raid0
[07:17] <Naomarik> Philip5: so you're saying the ide controller in the bios can't be raid? i forgot what mine is set to but i remember checking it because i read a comment saying it wasn't supposed to be a certain thing and it wasn't...
[07:17] <georges> who here has kubuntu 6.10 installed and working?
[07:17] <georges> I need to compare notes.
[07:17] <TheWheat> i do. just upgraded from 6.06
[07:18] <Philip5> Naomarik: exactly... as if you want it to be raid in bios then you have to make a custom made installcd with the prerelease of dmraid
[07:18] <georges> Hey Wheat, how much of the filesystem can you see in Konqueror? I can only see my home folder and the media folder. What's up with that?
[07:18] <Philip5> but even with that it's tricky
[07:18] <georges> I can't get to my correctly mounted Data drive.... ?
[07:19] <Naomarik> okay Philip5. good thing for me I have no need for a raid setup as I am not currently running one!
[07:19] <TheWheat> georges: the rest are hidden folders
[07:19] <TheWheat> georges: go to View > Show Hidden folders
[07:20] <georges> Ahhhhh.... i shall try that.
[07:20] <georges> Wow, wtf... that's a bit of a stupid default, imo.
[07:20] <ecokiller> so whats the main difference from ubuntu and kubuntu releases
[07:20] <georges> It's hard to scan your music collection in Amarok when it's mounted in /mnt and its hidden! :D
[07:21] <Philip5> Naomarik: set your jmicron chipset in ahci mode in bios and it will fork just fine with edgy
[07:21] <georges> Nevermind, it's still not possible to scan it because it doesn't show up in the filesystem tree in the Amarok scan window. Nice.
[07:21] <homa> haw are u, guys! I just burned kubuntu6.10, and i am trying to install it on my dell d620 notepad, but shit happens: after loading kernel, it showed me such message and hung up."user not known to the underlying authentication module"
[07:21] <mr_daemon> Hey, how does one installs the lastest beta nvidia drivers in Edgy? Removing restricted-modules will take down the kernel with it...
[07:22] <mr_daemon> Well, all the kernels, actually...
[07:22] <Naomarik> okay philp, you convinced me. going to burn the iso now and try it
[07:22] <Philip5> Naomarik: what is the motherboard you are using?
[07:22] <Naomarik> asus p5b deluxe
[07:23] <Philip5> Naomarik: aha, figured that
[07:23] <homa> anyone can help?
[07:23] <Naomarik> do you know if the fglrx or however it's spelled will work with a x1900xt or would I download the drivers off amd/ati's website
[07:23] <georges> TheWheat, any other tips on KDE in general hiding these directories?
[07:23] <ecokiller> homa: havent gotten the kubuntu release yet... still dloading
[07:24] <Philip5> Naomarik: i bet it will but i have a nvidia card myself
[07:24] <homa> to ecokinger: ubuntu6.06 worked pretty fine, but 6.10....
[07:25] <georges> seriously...
[07:25] <Naomarik> Philip5: So that leads me to another question.. on AMD/ati's website the linux driver is named ati-driver-(version).run
[07:25] <Naomarik> how would that be installed?
[07:26] <Philip5> Naomarik: 'sudo sh ati-driver-(version).run'
[07:27] <TheWheat> georges: im not sure. i'm still kind of a newbie myself :)
[07:27] <georges> hehe ok :)
[07:27] <georges> thanks for the View tip though
[07:27] <Naomarik> thanks philip.. amazing how many linux commands can be forgotten after not using it for a long period of time
[07:28] <Mandalf> I realy need help!
[07:28] <ecokiller> anybody using GIMP?
[07:28] <TheWheat> georges: no prob ;)
[07:28] <Philip5> Naomarik: just follow the instructions after that... and i think you better do it when you haven't started xorg
[07:29] <Mandalf> My computer cant start DMA
[07:29] <Mandalf> !dma
[07:29] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. It makes hard disks & optical drives transfer data faster, and is almost always enabled in Ubuntu 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[07:29] <Mandalf> I got an unknown errorcode
[07:30] <ecokiller> dont get eliminated!
[07:30] <ecokiller> mxc sorry it was on
[07:30] <Naomarik> what do you mean by that? should i use the ctrl alt keys to get to another session that doesn't have x server running?
[07:31] <Philip5> Naomarik: you shouldn't have xorg running at all when running the ati-bin file... i guess... that's how i install nvidia about the same way
[07:32] <arunkale> what is the apt-get command for installing the flashplayer plugin for firefox
[07:32] <Naomarik> so what would the method be to get into that kind of environment? should I install kubuntu, download the drivers, then kill x server somehow to get into a terminal-like session?
[07:33] <Mandalf> I can not boot my system
[07:34] <Philip5> Naomarik: when you are going to login with kdm then choose console login instead of into kde... from there kill kdm to be sure and then run the ati-bin.. or boot into singeluser mode from start
[07:34] <codeine> did anyone encounter a problem with Firefox 2.0 and Flock 0.7.6 after installing flash?
[07:35] <Naomarik> sounds like a plan. thanks for the help Philip5!
[07:35] <Philip5> Naomarik: np
[07:35] <Mandalf> Philip5: I cant boot my sytem
[07:35] <Mandalf> It freexes
[07:35] <Mandalf> freezes*
[07:35] <Philip5> Mandalf: ok
[07:36] <Mandalf> When I start in recoverymode
[07:36] <Mandalf> i comes mutch text
[07:36] <Mandalf> then i totaly stops
[07:36] <codeine> firefox 2.0 browser crashes after installing the flash plugin
[07:36] <Mandalf> nothing happen
[07:37] <Mandalf> DMA gives the error: unknown
[07:37] <Admiral_Chicago> codeine: that's because it is in beta
[07:37] <Admiral_Chicago> look at the library dependencies
[07:38] <zorda> so umm how much betters kubuntu then ubuntu?
[07:38] <Admiral_Chicago> zorda: it's all about preference
[07:38] <codeine> Firefox 2.0?
[07:38] <zorda> And K is geared more too?
[07:38] <codeine> its not a beta anymore
[07:38] <orkid__> zorda: much :)
[07:38] <Admiral_Chicago> kubuntu is more like windows layout with different programs
[07:38] <Admiral_Chicago> codeine: flash
[07:38] <Mandalf> Philip5: Any idea?
[07:39] <Admiral_Chicago> i like the programs
[07:39] <Admiral_Chicago> GNOME is more minimalist
[07:39] <zorda> GNOME is slow
[07:39] <Admiral_Chicago> people debate KDE is slow
[07:39] <Admiral_Chicago> my idea? install kubuntu and log in as kubuntu and try it out
[07:39] <Philip5> Mandalf: not really.... have you tweaked your bios settings?
[07:40] <Admiral_Chicago> log in as KDE
[07:40] <Admiral_Chicago> sorry
[07:40] <codeine> tried default plugin and manual install
[07:40] <Admiral_Chicago> and then try logging in as GNOME
[07:40] <zorda> im really new to linux and i was just wonderinf if K was beter
[07:40] <Admiral_Chicago> hopefully someone else can help you with that.
[07:40] <Admiral_Chicago> i like KDE much more
[07:41] <Mandalf> Philip5: I have a dell. I dont need that settings so much. I have boot menus to chose how to boot
[07:42] <zorda> ll
[07:42] <zorda> kk
[07:42] <zorda> hmm
[07:43] <Mandalf> Philip5: My computer is 5 years. Can it was that?
[07:43] <zorda> do they make you work for MP3 in KDE as they do in Ubuntu?
[07:43] <Mandalf> I used kubuntu 6.06 from the release of it
[07:44] <Momal> hmm... well edgy wont update >_<
[07:44] <zorda> my methed is delete code untill it works
[07:44] <Momal> lots of un met packages then running the apt-get dist-update thingo again... just makes it say error(1) what ever that is :S
[07:45] <orkid__> why no jigdo DVDs?
[07:45] <zorda> so umm
[07:45] <linuxmigration> codeine: hi, this is jeremy
[07:45] <Philip5> Mandalf: not really but check your bios if you have something about how it setup dma
[07:45] <codeine> yo
[07:45] <zorda> will any one cositer mailing me a KND bootdisc?
[07:45] <linuxmigration> codeine: scrollback?
[07:45] <zorda> i cant get the iso
[07:46] <zorda> ill trade for a NT boot!
[07:46] <codeine> yep
[07:46] <codeine> there you are
[07:46] <zorda> Who wants to trade!??!?!
[07:46] <linuxmigration> codeine: didn't get it.  you must not be +e
[07:46] <zorda> KND boot for NT boot!
[07:47] <codeine> did anyone encounter any problem with Firefox 2.0 of Flock after installing the flash plugin with 6-10?
[07:47] <zorda> please...
[07:47] <Mandalf> Philip5: DMA is in bios?
[07:47] <zorda> WINDOWS XP PRO FOR KND!
[07:48] <zorda> come one people
[07:48] <Mandalf> Windows XP = Windows Xtra Problems
[07:48] <zorda> Yep Yep
[07:48] <zorda> But it playes the games!
[07:49] <zorda> And its super easy to lean and to hack!
[07:49] <zorda> pleae...
[07:49] <zorda> come one isnt any one here in usa?
[07:50] <zorda> please....
[07:51] <zorda> ill though in a "minds are like parchutes they only work open" bumper sticker!
[07:51] <zorda> And a 15 inch speaker!
[07:51] <zorda> no jk
[07:52] <Mandalf> time to go
[07:52] <Mandalf> have 3h math test
[07:52] <zorda> me?
[07:52] <zorda> pain
[07:52] <zorda> skip it
[07:52] <hammer> who has licq 1.3.4?
[07:52] <Mandalf> bye all
[07:52] <zorda> bye
[07:54] <zorda> DANM IT I NEED A KND BOOT!
[07:54] <zorda> ILL TRADE FOR WIN XP PRO!
[07:54] <zorda> come one it plays games...
[07:55] <zorda> the good ones...
[07:55] <canine_kouji> so, is 6.10 stable for kubuntu?
[07:56] <canine_kouji> I stupidly downloaded ubuntu on accident. I've forgotton GNOME stupidly included mono in the distribution
[07:56] <zorda> but gnome loves
[07:56] <linuxmigration> canine_kouji: apt-get remove mono?
[07:57] <canine_kouji> linuxmigration: mono isn't the only reason
[07:57] <canine_kouji> :P
[07:57] <gnac> 6.10 manual partitin install is complaining that I haven't selected root partition, when I have
[07:57] <canine_kouji> kwin is more advanced to where I use the window settings very seriously
[07:57] <canine_kouji> KDE ftw
[08:01] <zorda> man konversaion is bugged
[08:01] <zorda> why is that?
[08:01] <t3hwiz0rd-server> hahahahahaha omgggg... 3 horus of waiting for dist-upgrade and it fails on two packages
[08:01] <momal> Who has been able to update from dapper to edgy without problems and knows fair bit ????
[08:01] <t3hwiz0rd-server> the last two packages!
[08:02] <momal> For some reason i keep getting error about libuim3 trying to over write a file thats in another .deb file :S
[08:02] <t3hwiz0rd-server> momal: what type of "problems" are we discussinG?
[08:03] <t3hwiz0rd-server> momal: if you can broaden that for me
[08:03] <momal> apt-get -f install | says needs libuim3 or what ever | then running apt-get dist-upgrade | says it couln't be set up because of libuim3 trying to overwrite a file in another .deb file.
[08:04] <t3hwiz0rd-server> you really shouldn't force install stuff before you do some more research on it though man, that can be riiskky
[08:04] <momal> ubuntu guide said to do it
[08:04] <t3hwiz0rd-server> okay... that just sounds so risky
[08:04] <t3hwiz0rd-server> what is it you are installing?
[08:04] <momal> edgy from dapper
[08:04] <t3hwiz0rd-server> ah... hmmm
[08:04] <t3hwiz0rd-server> mine is installing right now, and i haven't noticed any errors, just warnings.
[08:04] <intelikey> !ubuntuguide
[08:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntuguide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:05] <omar> hey Philip5 you still there?
[08:05] <intelikey> !ubuntu-guide
[08:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-guide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:05] <t3hwiz0rd-server> !ubuntu guide
[08:05] <momal> well its installed some pakages so i have half dapper and hald edgy so now im all back to console at the moment since kde is broken because of it
[08:05] <t3hwiz0rd-server> momal: i am doing it right now i'll see if i have anything go funny
[08:05] <larson9999> hedgy?
[08:05] <t3hwiz0rd-server> lol
[08:06] <t3hwiz0rd-server> i'd be more like Dredgy
[08:06] <intelikey> there was a factoid on that, i think, it said it's outdated don't follow it....  but i could have my howto's mixed up.
[08:06] <momal> its be more like doesn't work so my system is useless at the moment because of it
[08:06] <intelikey> !work
[08:06] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[08:07] <larson9999> this is the best release yet!
[08:07] <momal> acualy it does its sits on my desk it can't go on irc becuase its al screwed up
[08:07] <momal> so it doesn't work
[08:07] <larson9999> that line cracks me up.  if it's not the best release yet, why release?
[08:08] <zorda> some one tell me
[08:08] <momal> how can i get errors from apt-get into a file | >> doesn't seem to be working for the errrors
[08:08] <zorda> i need linux that does something
[08:08] <larson9999> i used to not work.  but, i finally got a job.  good thing.  my wife was getting tired of me on the couch all day
[08:08] <dude> hi momal
[08:08] <dude> hi guys
[08:08] <zorda> and that i dont note have to fight to use all of my info
[08:08] <zorda> am i out of luck?
[08:09] <larson9999> what's your problem zorda?
[08:09] <intelikey> larson9999 hehhe yeah each one is xX better than the one before but it seems odd to me that if you actually compare dapper to warty you don't see much improvement.....
[08:09] <zorda> i cant use any of my fliles and im geting pissed
[08:09] <zorda> and helll i cant even get mp3 to work
[08:10] <larson9999> intelikey: just once i'd like to see, "this release is a bit worse than the last but we figured, 'what the hey?' and released anyway."
 To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[08:15] <intelikey> !kubuntu
[08:15] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment. For more info see http://kubuntu.org for support: #kubuntu ; to install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:16] <zorda> Oh KND is ubuntu with out gnome?
[08:16] <larson9999> zorda: i don't know about the rest here but i find the unofficial ubuntu guide to be the best guide for newbies who don't want to read a HUGE book to get started but yet need step by step instructions.  the thing is it's for ubuntu so there are a couple things that need to change like kdesu instead of gedit.  i recommend you use it.  if you like, even go with ubuntu instead of kubuntu so it's exactly what you want.  just my two cen
[08:16] <larson9999> ts.  there are others here who are 'smarter'.  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[08:17] <larson9999> it's exactly what you want = so the instructions match your distro exactly.
[08:17] <zorda> ah
[08:17] <zorda>  i mean i have no proble reading a book but...
[08:18] <zorda> that guid that ubuntu made was...
[08:18] <zorda> a monster
[08:18] <larson9999> zorda since you're new, my recommendation is you read and follow it from start to finish.  it's not that long really and will give you good insight for minimal reading.
[08:18] <zorda> ah ok
[08:18] <zorda> crap
[08:18] <zorda> im outdated
[08:18] <t3hwiz0rd-server> lol
[08:18] <zorda> i have draper
[08:19] <t3hwiz0rd-server> draper?
[08:19] <larson9999> zorda: well there is a dapper version of the same document
[08:19] <zorda> do i need edgy?
[08:19] <zorda> i see that but
[08:19] <t3hwiz0rd-server> you don't need edy
[08:19] <t3hwiz0rd-server> edgy
[08:19] <zorda> should i get edgy?
[08:19] <zorda> ok
[08:19] <zorda> is it buggy?
[08:19] <t3hwiz0rd-server> linux itself is buggy... how buggy depends on the individual really
[08:20] <larson9999> zorda: i don't think you need edgy.  it's not that but dapper was good and if you already have it and don't want to dl edgy.  anyway either way is fine if you ask me.
[08:20] <intelikey> zorda you might be better off using the dapper version, seeing that edgy just released today.
[08:20] <zorda> lol today?
[08:20] <zorda> then it is buggy
[08:20] <usamahashimi> hi all
[08:20] <larson9999> zorda: intelikey has a point there :)
[08:21] <intelikey> also daper is the LTS = long term support  release.
[08:21] <zorda> needs about a week for them to patch it up
[08:21] <nikon> dapper, for me, helped alot. i was a complete newb(still am in some areas) before i found ubuntu.
[08:21] <t3hwiz0rd-server> intelikey: theres really nothing wrong with upgrading though
[08:22] <t3hwiz0rd-server> intelikey: it can be risky but i'd hardly say that kubuntu team would release a broken OS
[08:22] <zorda> well i am a windows hacker but thats not going to help much here will it?
[08:22] <t3hwiz0rd-server> they're not suse for crying out loud
[08:22] <larson9999> install dapper and play with it for a while.  when you're more comforatable, upgrade
[08:22] <usamahashimi> when i try to connect to internet via kppp, it gives error; The remote system is required to authenticate itself but I couldn't find any suitable secret (password) for it to use to do so(None of the available passwords would let it use an IP address.)
[08:22] <t3hwiz0rd-server> breezy was my first long-term debian distro
[08:22] <intelikey> a new release gets heavier usage the first few days and thus more bugs/querks/oddities are found the first week or two after release.
[08:22] <zorda> i have daper i got in the mail
[08:22] <larson9999> zorda: a good hack is a good hack.
[08:23] <momal> how can i get aptitude to use proxy???
[08:23] <zorda> larson9999:  then a bad hack am i
[08:23] <t3hwiz0rd-server> okay
[08:23] <t3hwiz0rd-server> i already know i am gonna have a problem with edgy
[08:23] <t3hwiz0rd-server> lol
[08:23] <hammer> usamahashimi: remove # in /etc/ppp/peers/kppp-options
[08:24] <t3hwiz0rd-server> kdm failed on reboot een lol
[08:24] <nikon> why is that t3h??
[08:24] <nikon> nvm
[08:24] <t3hwiz0rd-server> though i probably just need to install the nvidia drivers.
[08:24] <t3hwiz0rd-server> i reckon.
[08:24] <t3hwiz0rd-server> or rather re-install
[08:24] <nikon> edgy dl just finnished
[08:24] <intelikey> t3hwiz0rd-server then i'd say you haven't followed the releases very closly.     example one the security updated that broke xorg about a month ago... example two the dapper final that couldn't boot from scsi drives... example three....
[08:25] <t3hwiz0rd-server> ohh wiat
[08:25] <t3hwiz0rd-server> X did work, just fine
[08:25] <t3hwiz0rd-server> intelikey: how bout them apples! no problems
[08:25] <zorda> whoa i can get realplayer?
[08:25] <nikon> yes
[08:25] <zorda> then any chance of winamp?
[08:25] <larson9999> zorda: you can get all that's in that doc :)
[08:26] <usamahashimi> hammer: can u explain, why i have to remove this file?
[08:26] <nikon> i dont know about winamp? can you
[08:26] <lotusleaf> zorda: re: winamp #winehq
[08:26] <hammer> usamahashimi: no =) i had the same problem and that helped =)
[08:26] <nikon> i rather uss amarok
[08:27] <larson9999> i think winamp is what drove me from windows!
[08:27] <en1gma> sup all
[08:27] <intelikey> t3hwiz0rd-server but i'm not against anyone using even the development version/s  i was just answering the question "do i need edgy, because i have dapper?"    short answer NO.   long answer already posted.
[08:27] <usamahashimi> hammer: oh thanks, if it does not help, is there anything else i can try?
[08:27] <t3hwiz0rd-server> intelikey: i agree
[08:27] <windwalker> Hi.
[08:27] <hammer> usamahashimi: yep
[08:28] <hammer> sudo pppconfig
[08:28] <zorda> ok i got anothe Q is there any way i can stop ubunto from having boot contol on my comp?
[08:28] <T3hWiz0rd> well
[08:28] <T3hWiz0rd> edgy does seem a bit more edy
[08:28] <T3hWiz0rd> edgy... eems to run smoother
[08:28] <hammer> usamahashimi: and then sudo pon provider || poff
[08:28] <en1gma> anyone know if 6.10 edgy can install to a "bios-raid" ( 4 sata drives in raid0 stripe) it has 2 partitions on it now (1 for windows and 1 for linux if it will install to is)
[08:28] <zorda> hmm
[08:29] <draik> I'mma downloading KUBUNTU EDGY EFT!!!!!!!! WOOHOO!!!!!!!
[08:29] <T3hWiz0rd> are there nvidia updates available too?
[08:29] <windwalker> Does anybody know in which file hotkeys per user are stored? I want to copy my shortcuts from one user to another
[08:29] <zorda> is luinus poor?
[08:29] <intelikey> zorda something has to manage what system boots.  if you only have one OS then choosing a boot loader is simple,  but to shorten the answer, there are options.
[08:29] <Admiral_Chicago> windwalker: what shortcuts?
[08:29] <T3hWiz0rd> because my nvidia drivers seem a bit... iunno... laggy?
[08:29] <momal> help someone????? need to know how to upgrade to edgy via dapper... seems dist-upgrade broke everything | it seems to be wanting something with libuim3 but trying to install that says it wants to overwrite a file in another .deb file
[08:29] <T3hWiz0rd> like on window refreshing perhaps? say I drag a window over terminal and the text has to repopulate
[08:30] <windwalker> Admiral_Chicagohotkeys like alt+F2 for example
[08:30] <T3hWiz0rd> its not really smooth.
[08:30] <usamahashimi> hammer: what it will do?
[08:30] <Admiral_Chicago> windwalker: those are system wide
[08:30] <T3hWiz0rd> intelikey: any idea why it'd do that?
[08:30] <Admiral_Chicago> by default alt + f2 will bring run command in kubuntu
[08:30] <T3hWiz0rd> intelikey: its been doing it for a week or so now... just seemigly slow refresh response
[08:30] <draik> Everyone on Edgy, do you notice a difference in loading time than from Dapper?
[08:30] <windwalker> i though I can change if for a different user :(
[08:30] <T3hWiz0rd> draik: loading time as in boot-up?
[08:30] <zorda> Its faster?
[08:30] <nikon> much faster
[08:31] <T3hWiz0rd> my refresh rates seem to be poop though
[08:31] <intelikey> t3hwiz0rd using nv or nvidia propriatary ?
[08:31] <hammer> usamahashimi: pppconfig will create an account and pon account_name will connect you. poff will disconnect.
[08:31] <nikon> not a problem here
[08:31] <T3hWiz0rd> intelikey: nvidia
[08:31] <draik> yes T3hWiz0rd
[08:31] <zorda> so umm
[08:31] <en1gma> what about my Q
[08:31] <intelikey> then idk.
[08:31] <en1gma> anyone know if 6.10 edgy can install to a "bios-raid" ( 4 sata drives in raid0 stripe) it has 2 partitions on it now (1 for windows and 1 for linux if it will install to is)
[08:31] <zorda> can i change my ip leagly on this OS?
[08:32] <Admiral_Chicago> windwalker i think you can
[08:32] <windwalker> I am not speaking about ALT+F2 I want to change for example ctrl+shift+k to ctrl+space only for one user. Does this mean everyone will change keyboard layouts with ctrl+space from now on???
[08:32] <draik> zorda, what IP?
[08:32] <draik> zorda, world IP or network?
[08:32] <zorda> no
[08:32] <Admiral_Chicago> hold on
[08:32] <T3hWiz0rd> intelikey: should i re-run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[08:32] <zorda> network
[08:32] <usamahashimi> hammer: thanks a lot
[08:32] <draik> You can as long as there isn't another computer using that IP, zorda
[08:32] <Admiral_Chicago> !shortcut > windwalker
[08:32] <hammer> usamahashimi: u r welcome =)
[08:33] <usamahashimi> hammer: can u tell me that how can i restart my sound server
[08:33] <windwalker> !shortcut
[08:33] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[08:33] <intelikey> zorda yes     and no.  you can't pirate the inet but you can use any ip that is not reserved        afaik
[08:33] <en1gma> what about my Q
[08:33] <zorda> so how can i find out if no ones using it?
[08:33] <hammer> usamahashimi: hmmm... killall artsd =)
[08:33] <draik> windwalker, I use keytouch and it works great
[08:34] <windwalker> I will read about this. 10x. I just thought this is a file in every user's directory :(
[08:34] <usamahashimi> hammer: will it stop or restart (i think stop only :)
[08:34] <zorda> man my bro was right this is a hack boxleagla changing ips YES!
[08:34] <draik> zorda, type         ping -c 4 123.456.789.xxx
[08:34] <draik> ping that IP address that you want
[08:34] <draik> if it's responding, its taken
[08:34] <zorda> ping -c 4 123.456.789.xxx
[08:34] <intelikey> there are netblocks reserved.  you need to research that issue.  before you waid off into it to deep.
[08:35] <hammer> usamahashimi: it should start then automatically =)
[08:35] <zorda>          ping -c 4 123.456.789.xxx
[08:35] <T3hWiz0rd> intelikey: ahh much better
[08:35] <draik> zorda, type that in a konsole window
[08:35] <usamahashimi> hammer: hmm, lemme check
[08:35] <T3hWiz0rd> intelikey: rerunning the xserver-xorg reconfigure made a good difference
[08:35] <intelikey> one example 196.*.*.* is reserved
[08:35] <zorda> kay
[08:35] <draik> but change the numbers to reflect the IP address that you want
[08:36] <hammer> usamahashimi: or just go to System Settings -> Sound & Multimedia change there anything twice and apply
[08:36] <usamahashimi> hammer: thanks
[08:36] <intelikey> T3hWiz0rd i bet it set it to use nv in place of nvidia  but i could be wrong     grep -ie nv /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:36] <draik> :(  no peers for the DVD torrent
[08:36] <zorda> Hmm i got ping: unknown host 123.456.789.xxx
[08:36] <T3hWiz0rd> intelikey: i reran the configure and its working nicely now.
[08:36] <en1gma> us ut possible to have a dual boot usb thumb drive
[08:36] <zorda> that means its taken right?
[08:36] <draik> zorda, change those numbers to the IP address that you want
[08:37] <charlie5> hi, is there a way to make view filers in kde permanent (for ignoring .o, etc files)

[08:37] <en1gma> us ut possible to have a dual boot usb thumb drive
[08:37] <nikon> time to install edgy be back. muahahaha
[08:37] <larson9999> en1gma: shouuld be.  i haven't tried but i'm going to sometime this week.
[08:37] <usamahashimi> hammer: now, after using gnome for many months, i switched to kde
[08:38] <hammer> usamahashimi: my congratulations =)
[08:38] <en1gma> i was thinking bout getting a thumbdrive but if i gonna dual boot i need to make sure i get a big one
[08:38] <intelikey> charlie5 what's wrong with     menu itom " save profile "
[08:38] <hammer> usamahashimi: and what d'u think about it?
[08:38] <T3hWiz0rd> is there a way to add the most common used programs field in the kmenu on kubuntu?
[08:39] <orkid__> i wouldn't use a usb stick as ahard disk. flash wears out
[08:39] <draik> Is it faster to download the ISO?
[08:39] <n3storm> goodmorning
[08:39] <intelikey> T3hWiz0rd right click on the task bar and set the menu to display the 5 most frequently used
[08:39] <usamahashimi> hammer: gnome is too simple, u can not configure it according to ur needs, although its speedy but it sucks
[08:39] <draik> rather than from the torrent?
[08:39] <intelikey> or 10
[08:39] <intelikey> pick a number
[08:39] <zorda> hmm im sure there is a prog somewhere to do about 1000 pings at a time..
[08:40] <charlie5> intelikey: hopefully nothing ... thanks ... i didn't realise that would save view filters ... sorry, i shoulda tried it
[08:40] <n3storm> I can't dist-upgrade because a package is not being removed
[08:40] <draik> zorda, change the command from 4 to 1000
[08:40] <n3storm> is not a kubuntu package
[08:40] <n3storm> how may I force the removal?
[08:40] <n3storm> apt-get says a file is missing from the package
[08:40] <intelikey> charlie5 don't appologize to me, i was just guessing.  i havent seen kde in quite some time.
[08:41] <hammer> usamahashimi: i'd never actually used gnome =)
[08:41] <T3hWiz0rd> k sweet thanks
[08:41] <n3storm> "/var/lib/dpkg/info/spring-basedata.postrm: line 23: spring-modupdate: order not found"
[08:41] <zorda> draik:  what?
[08:41] <draik> zorda what IP address do you want on your network?
[08:41] <T3hWiz0rd> alright...
[08:42] <T3hWiz0rd> intelikey: i am sure there are bugs, but edgy is certainly going to be a leaps and bounds for kubuntu.
[08:42] <sheft> hello, i downloaded a .deb-file, how do i install it?
[08:42] <charlie5> intelikey: ok, i'll try it anyhows
[08:42] <hammer> !dpkg
[08:42] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[08:42] <intelikey> T3hWiz0rd great. good to hear it.
[08:42] <cpk2> argh ubuntu.come/download redirects to that crappy download page now?!?!
[08:42] <T3hWiz0rd> intelikey: i think its safe to say it just whomped suse lol
[08:42] <intelikey> :)
[08:42] <zorda> Draik i need a bunch
[08:43] <draik> ???
[08:43] <draik> I thought you wanted to change your IP address on the network
[08:43] <hammer> sheft: or just right-click =)
[08:43] <intelikey> i would still be using mandrake 9 if it was still supported.....    @ T3hWiz0rd   :)
[08:43] <usamahashimi> hammer: a person used to use kde can never ever like gnome (as he like customization), the gnome developers want u to use gnome according to their wills
[08:43] <T3hWiz0rd> intelikey: lol you are your internal zealotism :-P
[08:43] <T3hWiz0rd> intelikey: i never did try mandrake.
[08:43] <T3hWiz0rd> intelikey: maybe one day...
[08:44] <larson9999> lol@intelikey.
[08:44] <intelikey> when it changed to mandriva it kinda lost me......
[08:44] <T3hWiz0rd> why? name too fruity?

[08:44] <T3hWiz0rd> lol...
[08:44] <larson9999> intelikey: well most of the versions after 9 were 'the best release ever'
[08:45] <draik> from anyone reading this, does anyone know what zorda was trying to do?
[08:45] <intelikey> yeah that and the french really showed their general contempt for "su"  about the same time.  that might have had some affect.
[08:45] <zorda> thanks for all the help though
[08:45] <zorda> no i dont know
[08:45] <zorda> jusr bing stupid
[08:46] <zorda> trying to find how to change my ip
[08:46] <intelikey> larson9999 absoposalutely    :)
[08:46] <zorda> but i was too stupid to keep it going
[08:46] <larson9999> intelikey: actually, i was thinking about giving 2007 a go.  the inclusion of the 'wine' stuff almost made me give it a go.
[08:46] <zorda> im sorry
[08:46] <zorda> hmm
[08:46] <T3hWiz0rd> hmmmf
[08:46] <greg> hi everybody
[08:46] <draik> sorry zorda, I think I may have misunderstood your needs
[08:46] <intelikey> larson9999 i would if i could dl it at more than 4k/sec
[08:47] <zorda> i think i have advansed to script kiddy couse i atcly came and admited i was stupid ans i was sorry
[08:47] <zorda> No its my fault im a compleat dumb ass
[08:47] <zorda> sorry
[08:47] <zorda> Dumb arse
[08:48] <T3hWiz0rd> gaim 2 beta? how risky...
[08:48] <momal> apt-get -f install | says needs libuim3 or what ever | then running apt-get dist-upgrade | says it couln't be set up because of libuim3 trying to overwrite a file in another .deb file.
[08:48] <zorda> lol
[08:48] <momal> help someone????? need to know how to upgrade to edgy via dapper... seems dist-upgrade broke everything | it seems to be wanting something with libuim3 but trying to install that says it wants to overwrite a file in another .deb file
[08:48] <larson9999> intelikey: i used mdk from about 1998 until about 6 months ago.  i think i'll stick with *buntu for a while.  actually, i really like xubuntu.
[08:48] <draik> It's ok zorda. If you tell me exactly what you want to do I can walk you through it
[08:49] <zorda> really?
[08:49] <zorda> i just wanted to change my ip
[08:49] <intelikey> yeah xub is nice
[08:49] <draik> zorda, are you running Dapper or Edgy?
[08:49] <zorda> Dapper
[08:49] <draik> Ok
[08:50] <draik> Go to K Menu > System Settings > Network Settings
[08:50] <intelikey> larson9999 i'm in a or several consoles about 98% of the time so linux is linux from this perspective.   minor differances in package/management is about it.
[08:51] <zorda> i shuld have a box with pics of ether net cards right?
[08:51] <draik> yup
[08:51] <draik> eth0 is the specific one you should be looking at
[08:51] <draik> enter Admin Mode
[08:51] <zorda> Well i am learning how to conver KND to ubunto!
[08:51] <usamahashimi> why there is no shipment of free cds of [k] ubuntu 6.10?
[08:52] <zorda> ok
[08:52] <zorda> there
[08:52] <larson9999> intelikey: i'm in the gui a lot and i tend to feel the same way :)  and ubuntu has the better philosphy imho
[08:52] <zorda> omfg
[08:52] <draik> double click on the eth0 line and then change it to manual and set the IP you want
[08:52] <zorda> draik am i seeing what i think i am seeing?
[08:53] <draik> depends, what are you seeing?
[08:53] <zorda> i can make my own stadic...
[08:53] <draik> yup
[08:53] <larson9999> zorda: are you pickturing me in a thong?
[08:53] <draik> that's what you're going to do
[08:53] <draik> larson9999, I'm picturing you next to a few empty beers right now :)
[08:53] <zorda> larson9999:  Why Yes, I am
[08:53] <larson9999> draik: not bad.
[08:54] <draik> LOL
[08:54] <larson9999> zorda: you're system is more messed up than i thought
[08:54] <ubuntu> if i just format my root partition and install will that screw with my /home in anyway??
[08:54] <zorda> No
[08:54] <T3hWiz0rd> lol
[08:55] <zorda> Im just stright
[08:55] <T3hWiz0rd> the poor edgy repos are being molested
[08:55] <zorda> You sre high
[08:55] <cpk2> usamahashimi: I think they are only doing shipit for LTS releases
[08:55] <zorda> Know put away the durgs for i crak a i beam on your head
[08:55] <intelikey> ok i think i'll configure a kernel right quick    have another off net box that does some hoop jumping... later fellas and gals
[08:56] <zorda> draik: Do you know a prog for pinging ips?
[08:56] <larson9999> ubuntu during the install there is a place to tell it which partitions to format.
[08:56] <draik> yes, it's called           ping
[08:57] <larson9999> how about ping?
[08:57] <zorda> I mean like 100 at a time
[08:57] <zorda> or 10000000 of em
[08:57] <draik> if you know the IP you want to ping, just type              ping -c (# of pings you want to do) Their.Own.IP.Address
[08:58] <zorda> And if i dont?
[08:58] <draik> then you can't
[08:58] <draik> If you don't know you're friend's house, how do you know what door to knock on?
[08:58] <zorda> So i fumble in the dark typing out ping -c 345,654.545 i milion times?
[08:59] <draik> no
[08:59] <larson9999> zorda what's the point of pinging a million times?
[08:59] <draik> ping -c 4 <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:59] <zorda> I mean a million diffrent pings
[08:59] <zorda> othough
[08:59] <usamahashimi> cpk2: hmm, it means dialup users like me now have some hard time!
[08:59] <larson9999> zorda what's the point of pinging a million different pings?
[08:59] <zorda> that might be a way to piss some one off
[08:59] <draik> larson9999, sounds like zorda here wants to DoS a system
[09:00] <zorda> To find out whitch are taken
[09:00] <draik> Ping of Death
[09:00] <zorda> No
[09:00] <larson9999> draik: that's what i was thinking.
[09:00] <draik> Hey zorda, what's your IP?
[09:00] <larson9999> but i'm a network dummy.
[09:00] <draik> your network IP
[09:00] <zorda> I want to find out whitch are taken and whitch are not
[09:00] <zorda> WHAT
[09:00] <zorda> THAT ALL PING OF DEAHT IS!>!>
[09:00] <draik> What is your network IP?
[09:00] <zorda> danm
[09:00] <zorda> umm
[09:01] <zorda> Where do i find this ins Ubunto?
[09:01] <zorda> i know in windows ut
[09:01] <draik> find what/
[09:01] <draik> ?
[09:01] <zorda> network ip
[09:02] <draik> ifconfig
[09:02] <draik> just type that in konsole
[09:02] <zorda> in komand?
[09:02] <zorda> ok
[09:03] <zorda> <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:03] <zorda> that me
[09:03] <draik> ok
[09:03] <draik> so then type this
[09:03] <draik> ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:03] <cpk2> usamahashimi: I dont know I am willing to bet you might find people who might want to ship you a dvd if you are in their region =)
[09:04] <zorda> lol
[09:04] <zorda> i ping of deathed my slef right?
[09:05] <draik> why not? You want to harm someone else?
[09:05] <zorda> no
[09:05] <zorda> i wanted to find a open ip
[09:05] <draik> so what's with the million pings?
[09:05] <zorda> to ping a millon difrent ips
[09:05] <draik> who is the netadmin at your place?
[09:06] <zorda> my self
[09:06] <zorda> lol
[09:06] <ubuntu> haalo@ all. i have bought me some weeks ago a core 2 duo e6700! my new board support 64bit? what for a version of kubuntu i have to use? the 32bit version or the 64? does the 64 version support core2 duo,(because there written amd64 & xeon. please help me
[09:06] <draik> and you don't know which ones are taken???
[09:06] <sF|Xemanth> has anybody done dapper -> edgy apt dist-upgrade ? will i get major probs ?
[09:06] <zorda> look
[09:06] <zorda> im loking at worldwide
[09:06] <zorda> so i can find a new ip
[09:06] <draik> world IP or for your network?
[09:06] <zorda> no
[09:07] <zorda> my own rouder / cable modam deal
[09:07] <momal> sF|Xemanth: yes i did it and now my whole box is screwed.. so don't do it
[09:07] <draik> 2 diff things
[09:07] <draik> your modem IP or your router IP?
[09:07] <sF|Xemanth> momal: :D
[09:07] <momal> help someone????? need to know how to upgrade to edgy via dapper... seems dist-upgrade broke everything | it seems to be wanting something with libuim3 but trying to install that says it wants to overwrite a file in another .deb file
[09:07] <zorda> hmm modem seems smarter
[09:07] <sF|Xemanth> momal: you had kde 355 in your dapper ?
[09:08] <draik> momal, have you tried aptitude?
[09:08] <draik> zorda, then call your ISP
[09:08] <zorda> Thats all i can do?
[09:08] <momal> yup aptitude just goes through some more but same prob at the end
[09:08] <zorda> do that im scared i want a stadic ip thing?
[09:08] <momal> and sF: yea i had kde 355
[09:08] <zorda> i heard that works
[09:09] <ubuntu> can sombody give me an advice 64-bit or 32bit version of kubuntu? (core 2 duo e6700 & gigabyte dq6
[09:09] <draik> then pay more $$$ to your ISP and they will give you a static IP
[09:09] <sF|Xemanth> momal: huh
[09:09] <zorda> but murdocks going to buy my ass
[09:09] <momal> sF: I had kde 3.5.5 installed in dapper... thats what you asked
[09:10] <zorda> arse sorry
[09:10] <zorda> Murder dock
[09:10] <zorda> ill call him that
[09:10] <momal> how can i set eth0 to goto dchp via console?
[09:11] <Basic_py> if I setup a ubuntu package archive mirror, is that the same packages for kubuntu or do I need to setup a kubuntu package archive mirror too?
[09:11] <draik> momal, I don't know about konsole, but I can help you through GUI if available
[09:12] <sF|Xemanth> momal: i'm wondering that will same happen to me if i do edgy upgrade :|
[09:12] <momal> can't dont' have any gui at all since it all broke trying to go to edgy
[09:12] <zorda> well thanks a bunch for the hacking lessons draik
[09:12] <draik> hacking???
[09:12] <draik> yeah.......ok
[09:12] <zorda> lol you tought me ping of death
[09:12] <T3hWiz0rd> well that was interesting... lol
[09:12] <T3hWiz0rd> draik: but know something thats more interesting? my cucumber melon lotion :-) lol
[09:12] <draik> you're telling me T3hWiz0rd
[09:12] <teflon> hi
[09:13] <T3hWiz0rd> draik: you 1337 h4x0r you
[09:13] <draik> LOL
[09:13] <zorda> hmm
[09:13] <draik> T3hWiz0rd: and don't you forget it!
[09:13] <draik> LMAO
[09:13] <elfstone> hello
[09:13] <T3hWiz0rd> draik: lol *puts it in his boot log so he doesn't forget*
[09:13] <teflon> Errhttp://kubuntu.org edgy/main Packages
[09:13] <teflon>   404 Not Found
[09:13] <teflon> I keep getting that error
[09:13] <zorda> ONLY OLD HACKERS CAN USE WISARD!
[09:13] <teflon> can someone give me the real url?
[09:13] <draik> T3hWiz0rd: Thank you, much appreciated
[09:13] <Hobbsee> teflon: why are you using that anyway?
[09:13] <T3hWiz0rd> shouldn't be a / after edgy i don't think lol
[09:13] <Hobbsee> !repos
[09:13] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:13] <teflon> I'm trying to update to edgy
[09:13] <elfstone> does anyone have ubuntu 6.10 and nvidia-glx-legacy drivers installed?
[09:13] <zorda> LIKE 80s DAYS!
[09:14] <teflon> !repos
[09:14] <T3hWiz0rd> teflon: are they giving you some problems?
[09:14] <T3hWiz0rd> !sources
[09:14] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:14] <teflon> well I don't know if I'm missing packages because I can't access that url
[09:15] <T3hWiz0rd> draik: well mr. 1337 h4x0r
[09:15] <T3hWiz0rd> draik: *snicker* i am gonna go get a coffee real fast.
[09:15] <teflon> yeah I know how to add them but the intructions on kubuntu's website say that I should just og to the /etc/apt/sources and change all dapper words to edgy
[09:15] <draik> T3hWiz0rd: and I'm going to get some sleep soon
[09:15] <T3hWiz0rd> sleep
[09:15] <T3hWiz0rd> YOU'RE NO HACKER! POSER!
[09:15] <zorda> hey does sudo s work in ubunto?
[09:16] <teflon> the sudo command?
[09:16] <zorda> yea
[09:16] <teflon> yes that does work
[09:16] <zorda> i cant use it
[09:16] <zorda> i cant type my pass owrd
[09:16] <zorda> it was password but
[09:16] <teflon> try installing it from the package manager
[09:16] <zorda> says
[09:16] <T3hWiz0rd> errrrr I really need to change the colours in irssi
[09:16] <T3hWiz0rd> lol
[09:17] <T3hWiz0rd> anyone know how to though?
[09:17] <teflon> what should I do then to update guys?
[09:17] <teflon> no?
[09:19] <teflon> what is this !sources thing? why the question mark?
[09:19] <zorda> becouse its late and things look wierd with your eyes sqinted
[09:20] <teflon> lol sorry it is a bad time
[09:20] <zorda> ok
[09:20] <zorda> sorry
[09:20] <teflon> well I need to go anyway I'll ask later on
[09:20] <teflon> np
[09:20] <tristan> hello all
[09:20] <teflon> I'm sure I will find the answer anyways
[09:20] <zorda> Hi TRSITAN!
[09:21] <teflon> but can anyone tell me if I can leave sudo apt-get dist-update will it install all the packages automatically or wait for a prompt?
[09:21] <tristan> I have a small question regarding upgrade (I have not done it yet). If I carefully look at the how to upgrade i see I have to reinstall kubuntu desktop. Will it erase my previous settings?
[09:21] <MasterEvilAce> !w32codecs
[09:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:22] <zorda> me so tired
[09:22] <tristan> andersgo, I also have a gnome desktop, do I have to do anything else to upgrade that part
[09:22] <momal> Can someone tell me how do I remove everything from my system expect the bear minimun then how to reinstall all edgy stuff for kubuntu-desktop ???
[09:23] <zorda> boot the cd
[09:24] <zorda> i will CRACK LESTAI!
[09:26] <zorda> draik:  so if i change my rouders ip ill still be sending with the modams ip right?
[09:27] <cpk2> momal: err why?
[09:27] <draik> right
[09:27] <zorda> And it is proably really ileagal to hack my cable modam
[09:28] <zorda> And im afrade of the big house....
[09:28] <morghanphoenix> Anybody know if either ext3 or fat32 has problems with saving large files, I'm having a massive slow down whenever I go above 200MB on a copy.
[09:28] <zorda> FAT does
[09:28] <lotusleaf> Where are the md5sums for: http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/edgy/release/dvd/
[09:28] <zorda> i think
[09:28] <cpk2> hrmm well i think ext3 has problems around 4tB or somesuch
[09:28] <morghanphoenix> Anything under 200MB is almost instant, above that I'm moving at 100KB/s
[09:28] <cpk2> so try not to go above that
[09:29] <momal> help someone????? need to know how to upgrade to edgy via dapper... seems dist-upgrade broke everything | it seems to be wanting something with libuim3 but trying to install that says it wants to overwrite a file in another .deb file
[09:29] <morghanphoenix> It's my portable drive, needs to keep windows compatability.
[09:29] <lotusleaf> nevermind, this link is better and has md5sums: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/6.10/release/
[09:30] <morghanphoenix> Only issue I've seen with ext3 is it's pretty slow on deleting files.
[09:30] <lotusleaf> the kubuntu.org download page should just link to the latter link I posted rather than the former
[09:30] <lotusleaf> or put the md5sums in the bittorrent directory at least =)
[09:31] <morghanphoenix> As soon as I get all this stuff off the hard drive I'm going to edgy, want to make double sure nothing goes wrong that costs me my files.
[09:32] <morghanphoenix> Fat32 definatly works better than ntfs did.
[09:32] <momal> can anyone tell me how to get the output from apt-get into a file so i can get a copy of the errors
[09:33] <morghanphoenix> Followed all instructions for ntfs compatability and still had massive amounts of data loss, thankfully it was mostly limited to jpgs and mp3s of which I had decents backups.
[09:34] <momal> help someone????? need to know how to upgrade to edgy via dapper... seems dist-upgrade broke everything | it seems to be wanting something with libuim3 but trying to install that says it wants to overwrite a file in another .deb file
[09:34] <morghanphoenix> there's an upgrade script
[09:34] <teledyn> !upgrade
[09:34] <ubotu> For upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this URL in the channel topic: type "/topic")
[09:34] <morghanphoenix> At least I think it's a script
[09:35] <momal> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades <-- yea thats what i used and it screwed it all up
[09:35] <momal> can anyone tell me how to get the output from apt-get into a file so i can get a copy of the errors
[09:36] <Admiral_Chicago> you should use kdesu "update-manager -c -d"
[09:36] <teledyn> momal: try to uninstall the conflicting package temporarily and reinstall later, or else temporarily move the conflicting file to a different location
[09:37] <momal> I have no gui at moment all back to console... umm can't ever time i run apt-get it says about packages and says to run apt-get -f install so i do then it doens't want to install it....
[09:37] <momal> do you know how to get the output from apt-get to a file? then i can upload it and show you what it is doing
[09:38] <teledyn> apt-get 2>&1 |tee apt-get .log
[09:41] <Tanooki> Hey, is anyone else getting a "no root filesystem" error when trying to install 6.10?
[09:42] <teledyn> Tanooki: did you select/create one during the install?
[09:42] <momal> http://teammid.net/aptget.txt <-- thats what happens when i run apt-get -f install | i'll get the log from apt-get dist-upgrade now
[09:43] <morghanphoenix> How do you move a full directory to a root only access area?
[09:43] <jeh> hey folks
[09:43] <teledyn> momal: as i said before...
[09:43] <TheFuzzball> hello, I have just downloaded Kubuntu Edgy Alternate install CD and when I boot from it my keyboard doesn't work in text mode
[09:43] <jeh> edgy is really, really nice!
[09:43] <TheFuzzball> how can I fix?
[09:43] <Lynoure> morghanphoenix: you do not need to move it
[09:43] <ubuntu> elo
[09:43] <Tanooki> Yes.  I already had partitions because I had Suse on there.  That didn't work so I wiped the disk (there wasn't anything important on it) and created new partitions.    I already had partitions because I had Suse on there.  I intended to simply overwrite it.  That didn't work so I wiped the disk (there wasn't anything important on it) and created new partitions.  Still got the error.
[09:49] <JAG> WINDOWS RULEZZ :P
[09:49] <JAG> d
[09:49] <JAG> d
[09:49] <JAG> d
[09:49] <JAG> d
[09:49] <JAG> d
[09:49] <JAG> d
[09:49] <teledyn> either temporarily move those 2 files or try to remove libuim0
[09:50] <TheFuzzball> JAG, windows are very necesary :)
[09:50] <morghanphoenix> Tell that to my girlfriend's still patching XP box, I started updating it around noon, it's 13 hours later.
[09:50] <momal> doesn't work anyway
[09:50] <TheFuzzball> lol
[09:50] <momal> http://teammid.net/aptitude.txt
[09:50] <teledyn> Tanooki: you created the partitions but did you assign the mount point /  to one of them?
[09:51] <TheFuzzball> can someone help me with the Kubuntu 6.10 installer please??
[09:51] <Tanooki> Yes.  At the "Prepare mount points" dialog I assigned one of them to /
[09:51] <teledyn> momal: are you going to just keep ignoring me?
[09:51] <TheFuzzball> the keyboard doesn't work when I try to install
[09:51] <teledyn> fine, I will just put you on ignore
[09:52] <momal> i tried dpkg-reconfigure
[09:52] <momal> i said xorg isn't even on
[09:52] <Tanooki> teledyn:  I press "Continue" and the error pops up.
[09:52] <momal> thats all you said and to move the files... i tried that
[09:52] <momal> i tried removing the package and doesn't work
[09:52] <Admiral_Chicago> momal: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/uim/+bug/62211
[09:52] <Admiral_Chicago> there is no resolution yet
[09:53] <teledyn> momal: you moved the files?
[09:53] <momal> i moved the files it was trying to over write i moved the .deb files
[09:53] <momal> still same errors
[09:53] <ziabice> hi!
[09:53] <teledyn> momal: what is this then?  "trying to overwrite `/usr/share/locale/ja/LC_MESSAGES/uim.mo', which is also in package libuim0"
[09:54] <momal> yea i removed that file and it still shows
[09:54] <teledyn> momal: if you do ls -la /usr/share/locale/ja/LC_MESSAGES/uim.mo', which is also in package libuim0  what does it show?
[09:54] <teledyn> oops
[09:55] <teledyn> momal: if you do ls -la /usr/share/locale/ja/LC_MESSAGES/uim.mo'  what does it show?
[09:55] <teledyn> momal: if you do ls -la /usr/share/locale/ja/LC_MESSAGES/uim.mo
[09:55] <momal> nothing
[09:55] <momal> doesn't exist
[09:56] <momal> file isn't there
[09:56] <teledyn> Tanooki: if you go into a shell and type 'mount' do you see the target for the installer mounted?
[09:56] <arnau> Hello. Somebody can help me about printers configuration?
[09:56] <teledyn> momal: what about   dpkg -P libuim0
[09:56] <momal> admiral_chicago: then how can i not use uim?? and use kubuntu ?
[09:56] <Tanooki> teledyn: nope
[09:57] <teledyn> Tanooki: i'm not sure what's going on.  you should see the the target partition mounted somewhere
[09:57] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm i'm researching now
[09:58] <the-erm> Is there a special way to upgrade kubuntu?
[09:58] <teledyn> momal: is this blocking your whole upgrade, or just the installation of these packages?
[09:58] <Admiral_Chicago> it seems like it is critical to X as it is an input library
[09:58] <Tanooki> teledyn:  there's no /dev/hda anything mounted.
[09:58] <teledyn> !upgrade |the-erm
[09:58] <ubotu> the-erm: For upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this URL in the channel topic: type "/topic")
[09:58] <momal> ok seemed that did it now i have to figure out what has been installed and what hasn't >_<
[10:00] <Admiral_Chicago> momal: i'd sign up to the launchpad site, report the bug and follow the change log
[10:00] <Admiral_Chicago> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/uim/+bug/62211 i've already edited slightly
[10:00] <Admiral_Chicago> you may want to show ways to duplicate the bug
[10:00] <teledyn> Tanooki: what is the output of mount?  can you paste it in #flood?
[10:01] <jeh> does kubuntu have a package search function? i need a package that has /usr/include/linux/string.h
[10:01] <teledyn> jeh: apt-file
[10:01] <jeh> teledyn: ah, of course. thanks
[10:02] <teledyn> jeh: that is a package content search function.  apt-cache will search for packages
[10:02] <jeh> teledyn: yes, i need just that
[10:02] <jeh> on my debian that file is in the kernel-headers package, but not on edgy
[10:03] <Admiral_Chicago> jeh apt-cache search
[10:03] <Rajah3000> does anyone know what in Kubuntu you would open a '.run' file in?
[10:03] <teledyn> Admiral_Chicago: that will not find a file in a package.
[10:03] <Admiral_Chicago> ah i need to read closer
[10:03] <Admiral_Chicago> it's 3 in the morning here
[10:03] <teledyn> Admiral_Chicago: i know you want to be helpful and all, but you're advice to people is crap.
[10:04] <Admiral_Chicago> teledyn: not usually i'm just really tired
[10:04] <teledyn> ok
[10:04] <jeh> Admiral_Chicago: "apt-cache search /my/missing/file"?
[10:04] <Jarcio> :)
[10:05] <Admiral_Chicago> jeh: no that searches your sources.list
[10:05] <Admiral_Chicago> no
[10:05] <Admiral_Chicago> your repos
[10:05] <Admiral_Chicago> see, tired
[10:05] <jeh> :)
[10:05] <the-erm> teledyn: thanks for the info.
[10:05] <jeh> debian has this site where you can do just this, packages.debian.org
[10:06] <teledyn> jeh: i explained what to use
[10:07] <Tanooki> teledyn: pasted it
[10:07] <teledyn> Tanooki: its definitely not mounted at all.  something went wrong with the installer.  maybe try a different CD
[10:08] <teledyn> Tanooki: are you trying to do anything unusual with the filesystem?
[10:08] <chakie_work> teledyn: sorry, i must be a bit thick
[10:09] <Tanooki> teledyn:  I don't think so.  I want an 80MB /boot with ext2, a 640MB swap, and a the rest of the disk, 11GB, to be / and also ext2
[10:09] <teledyn> Tanooki: also, i think you can see the output of the installer on one of the VTs  - try ctrl-alt-[F1|F2|F3]  and see if there log output from the installer which might help you debug it
[10:11] <teledyn> Tanooki: and is it a standard IDE controller?  is it perhaps a strange model or really new?
[10:11] <rohan> are there any known edgy problems ?! since everytime i use the kubuntu 6.10 live cd, i get a message on the desktop "Kdesktop: The protocol for thee file application died unexpectedly." and my desktop is completely blank, no install or examples icon either !
[10:12] <teledyn> rohan: see /topic for known problems
[10:12] <rohan> teledyn: yes, i did see there are no known problems
[10:12] <rohan> then is it a bug in konqi ?
[10:12] <rohan> *kubuntu
[10:13] <rohan> and, none of the vt's are working ! they are just displaying some wildly scrolling garble
[10:13] <Tanooki> No, It's an intel 440BX i think... the machine is a Toshiab Tecra 8100.  Fairly standard PIII type machine.
[10:13] <rohan> some green blocks
[10:14] <momal> http://teammid.net/aptgetkubuntu.txt <-- :S help
[10:14] <T3hWiz0rd> soo much smoother
[10:14] <rohan> T3hWiz0rd: :P
[10:14] <chakie_work> hm, no package contains /usr/include/linux/string.h. can this be true?
[10:14] <rohan> it is ? :P
[10:14] <T3hWiz0rd> zomg! its rohan!
[10:14] <rohan> it has so many goddman problems !
[10:14] <rohan> T3hWiz0rd: ;)
[10:14] <T3hWiz0rd> rohan: i haven't had a single issue yet.
[10:15] <rohan> T3hWiz0rd: there are icons on the desktop ?
[10:15] <T3hWiz0rd> rohan: what issues did you have?
[10:15] <rohan> 11:13 < rohan> and, none of the vt's are working ! they are just displaying some wildly scrolling garble
[10:15] <T3hWiz0rd> rohan: yeah, but i disabled icons after i reconfigured kde
[10:16] <chakie_work> but /usr/include/asm-i386/io.h includes /usr/include/linux/string.h. something is now a bit broken
[10:16] <rohan> i mean, there were examples and install icons ?
[10:16] <teledyn> Tanooki: hmm very odd
[10:16] <T3hWiz0rd> rohan: everything worked fine...
[10:16] <momal> kubuntu-desktop: Depends: xorg but it is not going to be installed
[10:17] <T3hWiz0rd> rohan: but i upgraded from a dapper install
[10:17] <momal> E: broken packages >_<
[10:17] <rohan> T3hWiz0rd: ah
[10:17] <teledyn> Tanooki: i'd try another CD.
[10:17] <T3hWiz0rd> momal: i am beginning to think kubuntu simply hates you.
[10:17] <T3hWiz0rd> rohan: remember to checksum your CD's before you burn them and install from them.
[10:17] <momal> worked before edgy came along >_<
[10:17] <rohan> T3hWiz0rd: the iso's you mean ? :P
[10:18] <T3hWiz0rd> rohan: yup
[10:18] <Electrolyte> Has anyone else got a problem with fglrx on Edgy?
[10:18] <Electrolyte> A friend of mine and me can't get it to work.
[10:18] <Electrolyte> We've lost all 3D acceleration :/
[10:21] <chakie_work> darn, i can't develop on this system, the kernel/libc headers are broken
[10:22] <chakie_work> /usr/include/asm/io.h refers to non-existing files
[10:23] <momal> seemed i isntalled 1 lib file and xorg wants to isntall now... lol! gotta love the message "If we screw something up, restore it" that was what it said when it backed up my xorg.conf file
[10:23] <yacoob> why is that, Electrolyte?
[10:24] <GNAM> auauua Freespire
[10:25] <morghanphoenix> fglrx works fine on dapper
[10:25] <momal> ls
[10:25] <Electrolyte> yacoob - Freespire works out of the box.
[10:26] <lotusleaf> Electrolyte: Freespire went in my garbage box
[10:26] <chakie_work> can someone check wether their edgy has a /usr/include/asm-i386/io.h and wether it #includes a linux/string.h file?
[10:26] <morghanphoenix> I really don't see much in the listed changes between 6.06 & 6.10 that seems interesting.
[10:26] <Electrolyte> I've lost all 3D acceleration and tons of configurations are broken thanks to the upgrade.
[10:26] <Electrolyte> I can't even burn the Edgy ISO to disc because I don't have a disc that's large enough :/
[10:26] <morghanphoenix> I though it was under 700
[10:27] <Electrolyte> And like I said last night, I lost 4 RAM sticks after the upgrade.
[10:27] <lotusleaf> Electrolyte: when I installed Freespire, my computer exploded
[10:27] <Electrolyte> When I upgraded to Edgy, I lost 2GB RAM.
[10:27] <morghanphoenix> Lost RAM sticks?
[10:27] <lotusleaf> Electrolyte: I'm still picking pieces out of the wall
[10:27] <intelikey> don't fiddle around in the ram
[10:27] <lotusleaf> Electrolyte: after I installed Freespire, my cat lost all of its hair
[10:27] <Electrolyte> lotusleaf: Stop trying to be funny.
[10:27] <chakie_work> fsck
[10:28] <lotusleaf> Electrolyte: likewise ;)
[10:28] <morghanphoenix> How do you lose RAM sticks?
[10:28] <intelikey>  " cat /proc/driver/rtc "
[10:28] <Electrolyte> I don't know, but when I was booting up into Kubuntu Edgy the system rebooted, then I kept getting a kernel PANIC.
[10:28] <intelikey> morghanphoenix use a 12v test light to test them ?
[10:29] <teledyn> chakie_work: apt-get install apt-file; apt-file update; apt-file search <string>
[10:29] <chakie_work> teledyn: yes, i did just that. it's that the file doesn't exist in any package at all
[10:29] <intelikey> fsck is the command for checking a file system for errors
[10:30] <intelikey> f s  files system   ck check
[10:30] <morghanphoenix> I burned one up before, but I was putting RAM into an old dell and it wasn't connecting fully, made the whole stick glow red and smell really tasty.
[10:30] <teledyn> chakie_work: what about:   cd /usr/include; find ./ -name string.h
[10:31] <chakie_work> teledyn: there is the norma /usr/include/string.h
[10:31] <intelikey> morghanphoenix if you let the smoke out of thows little electronic parts they don't ever seem to work right again.
[10:31] <chakie_work> teledyn: but nothing in linux/
[10:31] <intelikey> teledyn find /usr/include -name string.h         no need to cd
[10:31] <root> eii
[10:32] <root> darme el servidor espaol
[10:32] <teledyn> dpkg -S  /usr/include/asm-i386/io.h  will tell you what package owns it
[10:32] <morghanphoenix> It's sitting on the supervisors desk at work as an example of what RAM shouldn't do.
[10:32] <rohan> T3hWiz0rd: see-
[10:32] <rohan> ubuntu@ubuntu:/mnt/hda1/Downloads$ md5sum kubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso
[10:32] <rohan> 1f9baed847eff89b03c754fcaea8070e  kubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso
[10:32] <chakie_work> teledyn: /usr/include/asm/io.h includes /usr/include/asm-i386/io.h which looks for <linux/string.h>
[10:32] <rohan> that helps ? :P
[10:32] <cristiano> hello all! i'm an italian kubuntu user and i'd like to set up a little community to create the kubuntu-it website (i see it doesn't exist) who to talk to?!?
[10:32] <teledyn> dpkg -L linux-libc-dev | less
[10:33] <chakie_work> teledyn: nope, not there
[10:34] <morghanphoenix> Is there a linux games channel?
[10:34] <cristiano> so no info for me?
[10:34] <momal> WAAAAAHOOOOO F*** YEA!
[10:34] <teledyn> usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.18-1/include/linux/string.h
[10:34] <momal> sorry for swearing but finally got it al working
[10:34] <momal> wow konversation looks different from last one >_<
[10:35] <chakie_work> teledyn: ok, 2.6.17 comes with edgy, you have installed it manually?
[10:35] <rohan> momal: yes, konversation 0.12.x that is with kde 3.5.5 is better
[10:35] <teledyn> chakie_work: actually that was from an old system that had debian on it
[10:35] <intelikey> #tome  or  #linux-tome     i really don't know.
[10:35] <intelikey> !tome
[10:35] <chakie_work> teledyn: ok
[10:35] <ubotu> tome: A single-player, text-based, dungeon simulation game.. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.3.3-1 (dapper), package size 2307 kB, installed size 9460 kB
[10:35] <teledyn> chakie_work: i was just running locate to see what showed up.  that was in one of my backup archives
[10:35] <intelikey> ubotu not that.....
[10:35] <momal> konversation.. 0.12x? that woudl be kopete wouln't it ? im running 1.0.1 for konversation :p
[10:36] <intelikey> !botsnack
[10:36] <ubotu> Yum!
[10:36] <chakie_work> teledyn: interesting. my dapper doesn't have that file either
[10:36] <cristiano> the new 6.10 rocks! it just needs something like 5 secs to boot! O___O
[10:36] <chakie_work> teledyn: bu my debian sarge does
[10:36] <teledyn> chakie_work: its not part of the linux-headers package?
[10:36] <chakie_work> teledyn: in linux-kernel-headers on sarge
[10:37] <intelikey> chakie_work what you looking for anyway ?
[10:37] <oswaldo> someone know install counter-strike on kubuntu???
[10:37] <oswaldo> someone know install counter-strike on kubuntu???
[10:37] <chakie_work> intelikey: /usr/include/asm/io.h includes /usr/include/asm-i386/io.h which looks for <linux/string.h>
[10:37] <nebur> someone speak spanish?
[10:37] <morghanphoenix> Been trying that myself
[10:37] <chakie_work> intelikey: and <linux/string.h> is missing
[10:37] <oswaldo> yes yo hablo espaol
[10:37] <oswaldo> yo hablo espaol
[10:37] <oswaldo> soy espaol
[10:37] <morghanphoenix> Can't get counter strike or quake working.
[10:37] <nebur> hola, oswaldo
[10:37] <intelikey> sudo apt-get install linux-headers
[10:38] <morghanphoenix> Doom and cube run great though.
[10:38] <oswaldo> tu tienes counter-strike en linux
[10:38] <chakie_work> teledyn: i have both linux-headers-2.6.17-10 and linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic installed. nothing there
[10:38] <morghanphoenix> I need to find my UO disc to see if the iris client  does well.
[10:38] <nebur> no, me acabo de instalar kubuntu para probarlo y eso queria saber... de algun juego o programa que merezca la pena instalar...
[10:38] <teledyn> chakie_work: did you try  updatedb then use the locate command?
[10:39] <chakie_work> teledyn: let me see
[10:39] <chakie_work> intelikey: E: Package linux-headers has no installation candidate
[10:39] <oswaldo> where can I get doom 3 for linux? morghanphoenix
[10:39] <oswaldo> where can I get doom 3 for linux? morghanphoenix
[10:39] <oswaldo> where can I get doom 3 for linux? morghanphoenix
[10:39] <intelikey> chakie_work i noticed you specified i386   you have i386  ?
[10:39] <cpk2> !doom
[10:39] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[10:39] <Electrolyte> Well, I have Kubuntu Edgy mostly back to how I used to have it before.
[10:39] <chakie_work> intelikey: yes, a p4
[10:39] <Electrolyte> Just that I still can't get FGLRX to work.
[10:40] <cristiano> any of the Kubuntu guru online?!pls i need a little info
[10:40] <morghanphoenix> Haven't found 3 myself, running 2
[10:40] <momal> edgy runs a ton faster then dapper me thinkz
[10:40] <oswaldo> ahm okis nebur
[10:40] <intelikey> but is the installed system i386   or i586/i686  smp ?
[10:40] <oswaldo> tb hay un canal de #kubuntu-es en espaol
[10:40] <chakie_work> slow machine...
[10:41] <momal> lol this will be interesting if vmware runs without needing a reinstall
[10:41] <Lynoure> I misclicked and the trashcan disappeared from the panel, how can I get it back? (I tried googling, could not find the answer)
[10:41] <teledyn> momal: if its a different kernel it will need a reinstall
[10:41] <momal> yea :p
[10:41] <intelikey> chakie_work   uname -r      does it show   *386  ?
[10:41] <momal> although it did update something to do with vmware
[10:41] <chakie_work> teledyn: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.17-10/include/linux/string.h
[10:41] <teledyn> momal: because it requires the modules built against your kernel
[10:42] <chakie_work> intelikey: "2.6.17-10-generic"
[10:42] <intelikey> that might be part of the problem
[10:42] <chakie_work> intelikey: perhaps. uname -a gives i686
[10:43] <teledyn> mine gives 2.6.17-10-generic
[10:43] <oswaldo> look, get el download link for doom 3
[10:43] <oswaldo> look, get el download link for doom 3
[10:43] <oswaldo> look, get el download link for doom 3
[10:43] <oswaldo> look, get the download link for doom 3
[10:43] <oswaldo> look, get the download link for doom 3
[10:43] <intelikey> yes but that is actual machine arch.  not software oprimization
[10:43] <cpk2> !spam
[10:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:43] <cpk2> well you should!
[10:43] <morghanphoenix> Do you have a client malfunction, or are you just typing everything three times?
[10:43] <cpk2> actually it was 5
[10:44] <chakie_work> teledyn, intelikey: i think something should symlink into  /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.17-10/include/ ?
[10:44] <Lynoure> ok, found it now
[10:44] <morghanphoenix> Only three when I started typing, and it was three little red lines when he asked me about doom 3
[10:44] <oswaldo> someone, where get doom 3 free?
[10:44] <T3hWiz0rd> rohan: it'll get better.
[10:44] <intelikey> chakie_work ok   sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic       and see what happens.
[10:44] <Electrolyte> Anyone else had problems with fglrx?
[10:44] <rohan> T3hWiz0rd: eh ?
[10:44] <oswaldo> someone, where get doom 3 free?
[10:44] <oswaldo> someone, where get doom 3 free?
[10:45] <chakie_work> intelikey: already have that package
[10:45] <Electrolyte> You can't.
[10:45] <Electrolyte> oswaldo: You have to buy it.
[10:45] <T3hWiz0rd> rohan: iunno... just encouraging you my indian friend :-)
[10:45] <morghanphoenix> Damn, that was why I was asking about a games channel, figured it wasn't distro specific enough for this room.
[10:45] <cpk2> no... pretty sure doom is free now
[10:45] <chakie_work> intelikey: the header was found there too, btw
[10:45] <Electrolyte> Doom 3? cpk2, I don't think so.
[10:45] <intelikey> chakie_work ok that's the problem  it's looking for i386 but you have generic
[10:45] <teledyn> chakie_work: is this a compiler error you're getting?
[10:46] <chakie_work> intelikey: so the kernel package is actually to blame?
[10:46] <chakie_work> teledyn: yes
[10:46] <chakie_work> /usr/include/asm-i386/io.h:4:26: error: linux/string.h: No such file or directory
[10:46] <teledyn> chakie_work: what's the actual error?
[10:46] <teledyn> ah
[10:46] <chakie_work> before that some "in file included from"
[10:46] <Electrolyte> WIll have to go off and swap the RAM out from my server into this machine in a second.
[10:47] <intelikey> chakie_work  have to adjust that accordingly      no it should get the arch from the `uname -r`  or some preset veriable
[10:47] <teledyn> chakie_work: maybe you need to install bin86?   just a wild guess
[10:48] <teledyn> maybe something else is wrong and throwing off the compiler
[10:48] <intelikey> and seeing that   set | grep -ie i386     turns up blank i'd say the configure/makefile is to blame
[10:49] <chakie_work> teledyn: this worked ok a few hours back as a dapper,
[10:49] <chakie_work> teledyn: checking
[10:49] <intelikey> they have assumed i386   when it could be anything.
[10:51] <intelikey> chakie_work but dapper wasn't using the   2.6.17-10-generic  kernel  and thus the includes for   asm-generic  rather than asm-i386
[10:51] <chakie_work> intelikey: perhaps. i think dapper had some -ix86 kernel
[10:51] <yacoob> Speaking of which
[10:51] <yacoob> which edgy packages are optimized for various architectures?
[10:52] <chakie_work> intelikey: maybe i could simulate it by doing some creative symlinking?
[10:52] <intelikey> yacoob obviously not the "generic" ones.
[10:52] <intelikey> yes maybe
[10:52] <yacoob> intelikey, kernel and glibc I see. Anything more?
[10:53] <osh_> Could someone test something for me? With mozilla, go to http://aftonbladet.se/ Does your browser close instantly when you go there?
[10:53] <chakie_work> intelikey: oh, there is a linux-image-2.6.17-10-386 package
[10:54] <chakie_work> intelikey: i'll try with that one first
[10:54] <intelikey> ln -s yacoob lots of the dev stuff   headers and so forth  are arch oriented
[10:54] <intelikey> yacoob without the symlink   lol
[10:54] <giamma> hi to all
[10:54] <cheewie> whera do i fint the formate stuff?
[10:54] <intelikey> chakie_work also get the headers for i386
[10:55] <ubuntu> Hi
[10:55] <teledyn> actually the generic one seems to be 586 optimized based on the kernel .config
[10:55] <chakie_work> intelikey: yup, this time i was way ahead :)
[10:55] <intelikey> cheewie ?
[10:55] <intelikey> the do what ?
[10:55] <cheewie> ye that stuff when i will formate a hdd
[10:55] <intelikey> mkfs
[10:55] <teledyn> chakie_work: the 386 kernel is less optimized than the generic one
[10:56] <intelikey> what file system you want cheewie ?
[10:56] <cheewie> where d i find it on desktop mode?
[10:56] <chakie_work> teledyn: well, if the alternative is not getting work done, it doesn't matter
[10:56] <cheewie> ec3 ?
[10:56] <cheewie> ex3
[10:56] <rolando> hi
[10:56] <cheewie> or what is the best to use?
[10:56] <chakie_work> reboot time
[10:56] <intelikey> konsole  type  mkfs    and hit the tab key a couple of times
[10:57] <rolando> how can i upgrade to new kubuntu 6.10 without downloading the whole ISO?
[10:57] <rolando> from 6.06
[10:57] <momal> !codec
[10:57] <ziabice> rolando: update-manager -c -d
[10:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:57] <intelikey> and if you want ext3     mkfs.ext3 /dev/<device to make the file system on>
[10:57] <ziabice> rolando: it is written into the release notes...
[10:58] <momal> looking for the howto on installing the dvd/win32/mp3 playback
[10:58] <momal> !mp3
[10:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:58] <cheewie> is ther enot anu console mode?
[10:58] <rolando> ziabice: thanx
[10:58] <rolando> i dont have to change anything in the sources.list then?
[10:58] <ubuntu> Help
[10:58] <intelikey> cheewie example;  sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/hda1            that's first partition on first hdar drive  format to ext3
[10:58] <ziabice> rolando: gksu "update-manager -c -d"
[10:59] <giamma> cristiano, are you there? :D
[10:59] <ziabice> rolando: it's all automatic
[10:59] <cristiano> here and there giamma :D
[10:59] <rolando> ok ok
[10:59] <ziabice> italiani in cha ;)
[10:59] <ziabice> italiani in chan ;)
[10:59] <cristiano> si ziabice
[10:59] <giamma> chan?
[10:59] <cristiano> to speak italian go to ubuntu-it
[10:59] <giamma> :P
[11:00] <cristiano> i'm there
[11:00] <ziabice> giamma: chan = channel
[11:00] <giamma> ah, ok, thanks
[11:01] <wombatunder> could someone please help me one on one?
[11:01] <cristiano> people why nvidia-settings does not save my settings even if i'm root?each time i boot i need to change again my gamma :(
[11:01] <wombatunder> I'm trying to setup kubuntu
[11:01] <cristiano> wombatunder: which kind of help do u need?
[11:02] <chakie_work> hm
[11:02] <wombatunder> I have some complicated partition issues
[11:02] <kristjan> omg I can't find /etc in edgy I
[11:02] <momal> !info w32codecs
[11:02] <ubotu> w32codecs: win32 binary codecs. In component extras, is optional. Version 1:20060611-0.0 (dapper-seveas), package size 13911 kB, installed size 33488 kB (Only available for i386)
[11:02] <chakie_work> teledyn, intelikey: no difference when running a i386 kernel
[11:02] <intelikey> kristjan try konsole
[11:03] <kristjan> intelikey: what should I type?
[11:03] <chakie_work> /usr/include/asm-i386/io.h just refers to a file that doesn't exist in any normal search paths
[11:03] <intelikey> chakie_work you have now the files ?
[11:03] <wombatunder> cristiano??
[11:03] <intelikey> kristjan ls /etc
[11:03] <johan_> hej. yakuake wont start, and its driving me crazy. help anyone?
[11:03] <intelikey> kristjan what are you wanting to don in /etc
[11:04] <kristjan> intelikey: I see /etc
[11:04] <chakie_work> intelikey: sure, in /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.17-10-386/include/linux/string.h
[11:04] <kristjan> intelikey: I\m in panic cause konqueror doesn't browse into /
[11:04] <chakie_work> intelikey: as well as in generic and one without any extension
[11:04] <chakie_work> intelikey: but nothing links to those files, so nothing tries to find them there
[11:04] <yacoob> Hmm.
[11:05] <intelikey> kristjan why do you want konq in /   running it as root ?
[11:05] <yacoob> Is there any .swf player?
[11:05] <yacoob> I mean, outside the browser.
[11:05] <yacoob> (under windows Media Player Classic plays swf)
[11:05] <intelikey> chakie_work what or where is it looking ?
[11:05] <ziabice> kristjan: I fired a bug report on launchpad about that
[11:05] <ziabice> kristjan: with a solution to the problem
[11:05] <kristjan> ziabice: is that a new feature?
[11:05] <cristiano> wombatunder: tell me
[11:05] <chakie_work> intelikey: that i don't know, but why should the compiler look into /usr/src if nothing in /usr/include links there?
[11:05] <ziabice> kristjan: one moment and I'll tell you the URL
[11:06] <chakie_work> intelikey: back in the good old days /usr/include/linux was a symlink to the kernel sources
[11:06] <ziabice> kristjan: for me is a bug, they call it "feature"... ;)
[11:06] <intelikey> chakie_work idk.   that's edgy for ya       try a   ldconfig     and see if it helps
[11:06] <johan_> libflash-swfplayer
[11:06] <kristjan> ziabice: so basically they want to hide / from user?
[11:07] <ziabice> kristjan: look here https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/67314
[11:07] <ziabice> kristjan: yes...
[11:07] <chakie_work> intelikey: ldconfig has nothing to do with headers, afaik
[11:07] <ziabice> kristjan: they think a user is too stoopid
[11:07] <ziabice> ops.. stupid ;)
[11:07] <wombatunder> My original windows install died so I installed a second hdd and re-installed windows on a 20 gig partition and am now trying to install Kubuntu on the remaining space ion the new hard drive
[11:08] <ziabice> kristjan: BTW hust remove or rename the file .hidden in your / dir
[11:08] <yacoob> johan_, thanks.
[11:08] <ziabice> kristjan: BTW just remove or rename the file .hidden in your / dir
[11:08] <ziabice> sorry for my typos...
[11:08] <CVirus> damn .... while I was upgrading to edgy, this happened http://rafb.net/paste/results/TeHUe673.html
[11:09] <chakie_work> on a debian sarge /usr/include/linux/string.h comes from linux-kernel-headers, on edgy /usr/include/linux/ comes from linux-libc-dev, which seems stupid
[11:09] <kristjan> ziabice: should I add comment to this bug that I also have it_
[11:09] <the-erm> Now you're scaring me CVirus.
[11:09] <wombatunder> cristiano: I think the kubuntu install is going to try to change stuff on the original hard drive, which is NTFS and I don't want touched, but would like to be able to see.
[11:09] <rohan> CVirus: try dist upgrade again
[11:10] <grothesk> Hello!
[11:10] <intelikey> the nomanclature of the linux file system is about as open as the code....     for instants in dapper kdm writes in  /root/   something i thought should never be done by a user interactive app   but they saw nothing wrong with hard coding  /root/ into kdm  so that ever user actually alters data in /root/     ;/
[11:10] <CVirus> rohan: it tells me to run apt-get -f install
[11:10] <morghanphoenix> code 1 is not your friend
[11:10] <rohan> CVirus: ah yes, do that .. that'll help :)
[11:10] <grothesk> In Edgy, my soundcard is  not the first sounddevice that ist used. It is my tvcard instead. How do I set my soundcard al default audiodevice?
[11:11] <morghanphoenix> Wow, that freed up a LOT of space!
[11:11] <intelikey> edgy doesn't supprise me yet.....
[11:12] <morghanphoenix> All these lovely stories about edgy upgrades, how do I just upgrade KDE?
[11:12] <|lostbyte|> Any one here had a sucessfull edgy upgrade, raise your hands ?
[11:12] <cristiano> wombatunder: u need an unpartioned empty space for linux
[11:12] <rohan> morghanphoenix: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:12] <ziabice> kristjan: I think that every kubuntu user have it, it's a kubuntu-default-settings behavior...
[11:13] <cristiano> wombatunder: u should use a program like partition magic or qtparted to use some of the empty space of the NTFS partition to create an empty partition with no filesystem on it
[11:13] <chakie_work> fsck, i'm at loss here. seems that i have to reinstall dapper so that i can get on with work :(
[11:13] <wombatunder> cristiano: I am upto step 6 in the install and am worried about the line "GRUB will be installed to (hd0)" as I assume this means Primary Master Drive?
[11:13] <cristiano> wombatunder: don't u have any other hd?
[11:13] <wombatunder> cristiano:I have 20 gig of empty space for linux to use
[11:14] <kristjan> ziabice: hmm I guess I'll leave /.hidden there and browse with "shoe hidden files"
[11:14] <morghanphoenix> ARGH! How can I tell what's using SDA1 so I can kill it and remove my external drive?
[11:15] <cristiano> wombatunder: u can tell ubiquity to use that space, u should "manual edit" the partition table during installation
[11:15] <ziabice> kristjan: I simply renamed it
[11:15] <morghanphoenix> Ack! third times a charm, didn't even work cli, guess whatever was using it quit on it's own
[11:16] <rickympl> hello, everyone
[11:16] <ziabice> kristjan: but maybe the best practice is to edit the file that it point to
[11:16] <wombatunder> cristiano:I have two hhd's one NTFS as Primary Master and one 40 gig as Secondary master. I have my new windows install running from a 20 gig partition on the Secondary Master and want to install Kubuntu on the sapre 20 gig on the Secondary master. Does this "GRUB will be installed to (hd0)" mean the install is going to try to write to the Primary master?
[11:17] <anil> HI all, I have a problem while booting into my ubuntu machine. Actually I tried updating kubuntu to 3.5.5 a couple of days before and this happened. I would like to know where can I find some kind of a log file so that I can paste it in here for your feedback. Thanks.
[11:17] <morghanphoenix> Can I remove the autoruns from an external hard drive, I think all it does is load the logo for windows icons.
[11:17] <ziabice> kristjan: the file /etc/kubuntu-default-settings/hidden-root
[11:17] <cristiano> wombatunder: yes but it should be not a prob
[11:17] <rickympl> im having problems with my keyboard layouts,when i go to kcontrol-regional & accessiblity-keyboard layout, i get no options for available keyboard layouts