[01:09] <Josef_>
[01:38] <supastupid> where is vi??? i'm typing vi but it opens vim
[01:39] <supastupid> i know, yeah, vi is less better than vim but i'm following a tutorial that is using vi and introduces vim later
[01:43] <leftyfb> supastupid: https://github.com/n-t-roff/heirloom-ex-vi
[01:43] <supastupid> thanks :D
[01:44] <leftyfb> supastupid: it makes no sense to learn/install vi as opposed to vim these days. There's really no such thing as vi anymore. Other than that personal project from  years ago
[01:44] <supastupid> true
[01:44] <Bashing-om> supastupid: See that ' ls -al /usr/bin/vi ' symlinks to vim . try "vi" with explicit path ?
[01:44] <supastupid> i'm currently reading the 'Learning the vi and Vim Editors' book from O'Riely
[01:44] <supastupid> i have a lot of books now, recently got the Unix and Linux humble bundle
[01:45] <supastupid> Bashing-om: i'm just going to use that repo leftyfb sent me
[01:45] <leftyfb> supastupid: just focus on the vim part of the tutorial. Unless you're going to be running UNIX anytime soon, you won't be coming across the original vi editor
[01:45] <supastupid> but i want to be able to run it on other unix systems too
[01:46] <supastupid> but ok
[01:46] <leftyfb> supastupid: which other unix systems?
[01:46] <leftyfb> supastupid: linux != unix
[01:46] <supastupid> bsd, mac
[01:46] <leftyfb> use vim
[01:46] <supastupid> okay
[01:46] <supastupid> there is a large part of vim in the book
[01:47] <supastupid> what do you guys think about the o'riely unix&linux books, by the way?
[01:47] <leftyfb> supastupid: feel free to discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:47] <supastupid> alright
[03:40] <Swift110-mobile> hello all
[03:53] <matsaman> hi swift
[05:09] <lapion> Hello
[05:11] <lapion> So I have been having problems with usb3: "Not enough host controller resources for new device state." and "Not enough bandwidth for altsetting 0"|
[05:12] <lapion> that with only 26 devices connected to 2 7-port hubs
[05:24] <Croran> only 26? lol.
[07:34] <lapion> 26 devices in total several on internal channels ( diverse hubs built-in-webcams  and such) only 14 attached through the 3 system's usb ports.
[09:04] <cloudcell> Hi Croran are you here? I had to reinstall the OS to install the NVIdia cuda however that last link you sent me was to the point, after installation I had to use it again. Now, however, I ran into another problem
[09:05] <cloudcell> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/RPTMRJtw/
[09:15] <Shanzem> libcudnn8 is not in ubuntus main repo, however it could be a working third party... google fu`d?
[09:17] <Shanzem> https://docs.nvidia.com/deeplearning/cudnn/install-guide/index.html
[09:17] <Shanzem> you need the .deb files
[09:38] <cloudcell> thank you Shanzem , turns out I have to install runtime before I have to install development packages... so problem solved.
[09:39] <erle-> does fwupdmgr allow vendor-provided installer scripts?
[09:39] <erle-> or just blobs?
[11:00] <Tryane> I have resident file from my Last Windows OS, called ' System Volume Information ' My partitions are in NTFS format .. Is it safe to delete this folder? or it has some information about mounting the NTFS files?
[11:00] <Tryane> Folder*
[11:00] <lotuspsychje> Tryane: sounds like a question for #windows
[11:01] <Tryane> lotuspsychje: it isn't fully windows related though, i'm running kubuntu .. will ther ebe any problems if i deleted them?
[11:02] <Tryane> i will ask in windows regardless
[11:26] <AsenMx> Hello, does anyone know in Gitlab CI  how to make include of template to be a manual job?
[12:36] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:57] <stevessss> so.. lshw is good at finding computer and motherboard serial numbers
[12:57] <stevessss> I want to know if my gpu is covered for overclocking but that depends on serial number and purchase date and I can't find how to determine a graphics card serial number from lshw or nvidia-smi or nvidia-settings   any thoughts? https://www.evga.com/warranty/graphics-cards/
[12:58] <stevessss> basically I want to know if overheating voids warranty or any act of overclocking
[13:01] <stevessss> https://www.evga.com/support/faq/FAQdetails.aspx?faqid=55  I guess that post makes it clear overclocking is allowed.. but wont be covered after its warranty expires and that it must be returned with the factory heat-sync re-attached(no liquid blocks)
[13:04] <stevessss> I guess hving said that ... with rtx3090 in short supply it might be very hard for anyone to ship a replacement in a timely manner and its best to avoid taking risks with those
[13:39] <naptra> Is this possible to set a DNS record to forwarding to heroku?
[13:47] <kyonsalt> naptra: /etc/dnsmasq.updns?
[13:47] <okamis> how do I use the package graphite-web if I install it through apt? Where do I find that documentation?
[13:53] <ravage> https://luppeng.wordpress.com/2020/10/28/install-and-setup-graphite-on-ubuntu-server-20-04-via-apt-repository/
[14:10] <okamis> That was really good, they hitting the same bug Im having, hopefully their solution works for me too
[15:00] <Thaurwylth> apt-listdifferences: unhandled download exception, exiting      Preparing to unpack .../libmm-glib0_1.16.6-2~21.04_amd64.deb      [And then it continues on.]
[15:00] <Thaurwylth> What's that?  Vaya a otro lugar para chatear y enviar spam al azar
[18:25] <nani> no es spam
[18:25] <nani> no manches we
[18:25] <leftyfb> nani: do you have an ubuntu support issue you need help with?
[18:25] <nani> yo me instale esta app pa hacer amikos no pa que me vengan a decir eso
[18:25] <LjL> well this is not a channel to make friends. go elsewhere.
[18:26] <nani> asdfgyujni0
[18:26] <leftyfb> nani: go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:26] <nani> woa a llorar:,v
[18:26] <LjL> if you plan to speak english there, otherwise, don't
[18:26] <nani> BUT I DONT SPEAK ENGLISH>:V
[18:26] <leftyfb> nani: go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:27] <nani> AHHH i wanna die
[18:27] <nani> ahhHhH
[18:27] <LjL> !ops | nani
[18:27] <nani> e?
[18:28] <el> nani: this isn't appropriate behaviour, can you please find somewhere else
[18:28] <nani> chicos,xd,no manchen we,en la info de la app no dice en ningun momento sobre nada de esto
[18:28] <nani> and,i dont speak english ahhhh
[18:28] <nani> :,v
[18:28] <el> nani: you can talk to me in PM but please leave this channel alone
[18:29] <nani> no>:v yo me instale esto pa hablar con gente wena oonda,y no me cansare
[18:29] <pyzozord> Hey I'm trying to sudo apt install linux-image-5.11.0-27-generic-dbgsym but I'm getting linux-image-5.11.0-27-generic-dbgsym : Depends: linux-image-unsigned-5.11.0-27-generic-dbgsym but it is not installable
[18:29] <nani> hasta encontrar gente buena onda
[18:29] <nani> UnU
[18:29] <nani> efe
[18:29] <nani> saben que?andesen a lavarle las patas 7n7,saluditos desde montevideo uruguay!!
[18:30] <leftyfb> nani: stop
[18:30] <nani> a mi no me vengas a decir STOoOp NO NI MADRES>:V
[18:52] <akik> is it normal to have to change dhcp=dhclient in NetworkManager.conf ? (the problem was ethernet losing connectivity, ubuntu 20.04)
[19:21] <nshirelaptop> does ubuntu still support suspend-to-didk/hibernate?
[19:22] <nshirelaptop> I don't see the option in power settings, only sleep. But this is a laptop that sleeps for days on end so I need a full poweroff
[19:35] <sarnold> nshirelaptop: you could try systemctl hibernate and see if it works or not
[19:40] <nshirelaptop> ok previously I had only 2gb of swap, set it to 12gb swap for 8gb ram system. I read that low swap space could have been one issue.
[19:40] <nshirelaptop> will try hibernating now
[19:40] <nshirelaptop> sarnold, Failed to hibernate system via logind: Sleep verb "hibernate" not supported
[19:41] <leftyfb> nshirelaptop: if you have 12gb of information in memory/swap you're trying to keep while hibernating you're doing it wrong :)
[19:41] <sarnold> nshirelaptop: aw.
[19:41] <nshirelaptop> I was told the general idea was to set the swapfile to 1.5x system memory size
[19:42] <nshirelaptop> @leftyfb,
[19:42] <nshirelaptop> sarnold, do you think that would be a hardware/bios limitation of the laptop? or just something misconfigured
[19:44] <leftyfb> nshirelaptop: https://askubuntu.com/a/1241902/1151311
[19:44] <sarnold> nshirelaptop: I know once upon a time ubuntu went to the effort to either prevent it or make it difficult to do, etc, because it was notoriously unreliable
[19:45] <nshirelaptop> hibernate was unreliable?
[19:45] <leftyfb> was/i
[19:45] <leftyfb> was/is
[19:45] <nshirelaptop> eh so no hibernate on swapfile, only swap partition? annoying
[19:45] <leftyfb> hibernate IS unreliable. No matter the OS.
[19:45] <nshirelaptop> luckily I left 25gb of unallocated space at the end of this drive
[19:46] <nshirelaptop> never had an issue with it on windows, and I went crazy with hibernating. for years on end I would hibernate every night and only do a full system reboot once a month
[19:46] <nshirelaptop> no memory errors or anything
[19:49] <tomreyn> how much time do you actually save this way? i mean it's not like booting takes a lot of time on linux.
[19:49] <sarnold> ah then you've got very good taste in hardware and driver authors :)
[19:49] <sarnold> it usually worked if you had 'moderately nice' hardware
[19:49] <nshirelaptop> reopening programs to where I left off does, sometimes I have to close my laptop quickly to resume later
[19:49] <sarnold> if you went too nice, it was rubbish. if you went for rubbish it was rubbish :)
[21:14] <supercom32> Hey all
[23:04] <linsux> skype always sign me out when i restart it
[23:04] <linsux> is there a fix to it
[23:04] <linsux> i have gnome-keyring installed
[23:09] <sarnold> you'll probably have to ask the skype folks about it
[23:17] <linsux> not ubuntu's fault?
[23:18] <linsux> would you say ubuntu is 100% innocent though
[23:20] <oerheks> why restart skype at all?
[23:20] <oerheks> does it not stay in your taskbar?


[11:03] <ShaneM> Morin' all.
[21:54] <airurando> good evening all.
[21:55] <tdr112> hey airurando
[21:55] <tdr112> czajkowski: good time in london ?
[21:55] <airurando> hi tdr112
[21:56] <airurando> how was your weekend?
[21:56] <tdr112> working at the gaa games all weekend
[21:56] <tdr112> sat and sun
[21:57] <tdr112> a great game of Hurling today
[21:58] <airurando> who was playing?
[21:58] <airurando> my focus was on the rugby.
[22:00] <tdr112> it was the club finals , not sure
[22:01] <airurando> no bother.
[22:04] <tdr112> who won the rugby
[22:06] <airurando> France, but it was a cracking game they didn't win by much
[22:32] <czajkowski> tdr112: yup :)
[22:33] <tdr112> any photos yet ?
[22:37] <czajkowski> tdr112: of...
[22:37] <tdr112> your trip
[22:38] <czajkowski> tdr112: http://pix.ie/czajkowski/album/401610
[22:41] <airurando> evening czajkowski
[22:41] <czajkowski> airurando: howdy
[22:42] <airurando> good now
[22:43] <airurando> and you
[22:44] <czajkowski> good thanks
[22:44] <czajkowski> just relaxing
[22:49] <tdr112> czajkowski: looks very nice , LOADS of lights
[22:49] <airurando> czajkowski: do you know that alan (duvelhead??) is in london now?
[22:50] <czajkowski> airurando: aye
[22:50] <czajkowski> tdr112: up damn high on the eye
[22:50] <czajkowski> and I'm scared of heighs
[22:50] <czajkowski> so needed the drink when up there
[22:51] <tdr112> :)


[06:42] <lordievader> Good morning
[06:52] <ducasse> morning, all
[06:53] <lordievader> Hey ducasse
[06:53] <lordievader> How are you doing?
[06:54] <ducasse> morning lordievader! all good here, and you? at work?
[06:55] <lordievader> Doing good here. Indeed at work.
[06:58] <ducasse> i'm going to set up a few lxd containers on my server today, move the services that run on it into them.
[07:00] <lordievader> From a vm to there, or services running on the server itself?
[07:02] <ducasse> both.
[07:09] <lordievader> Cool
[07:09] <lordievader> I should move some stuff too, to vm's and/or containers.
[07:10] <lordievader> My server does way to much next to being a hypervisor.
[07:11] <ducasse> nice if you later need to move services to another machine etc.
[07:11] <ducasse> easy to manage.
[07:11] <ducasse> why do people think #ubuntu is a good place to whine about not enough people using linux?
[07:16] <lordievader> People think `#*ubuntu*` is good for whining about anything.
[07:17] <ducasse> *nod*
[07:17] <ducasse> looks like this will be a good day to start off with extra caffeine :)
[09:00] <ducasse> "its a package developed by a developer" - talking about being willfully obtuse.
[09:02] <Ben64> over in ##linux doing the same crap
[09:03] <ducasse> i know, i warned him about crossposting but he just ignored it.
[09:04] <Ben64> i don't know how they expect it to get resolved like that
[09:04] <Ben64> its like going to a mechanic "hey my car is making a noise"
[09:04] <Ben64> "oh, what car, can i see it? whats the noise"
[09:04] <Ben64> "it has 4 wheels"
[09:05] <ducasse> it shouldn't be that hard to get them to post the bloody details, why are they being so secretive about them?
[09:06] <Ben64> no idea
[09:07] <Ben64> jim is trying for some reason
[09:07] <ducasse> best of luck to him :)
[11:02] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:31] <ducasse> hi BluesKaj, wb. all well i hope?
[11:32] <BBMAsk> All function for Xorg it's can be reconfigure by xorg.conf - there is another better options, like app that can be lunch from contro center i Ubuntu in section display ?
[11:32] <BBMAsk> Or plan to write it ?
[11:33] <BluesKaj> Hi ducasse, yes fine here, and you?
[11:34] <BBMAsk> There is possible injection/parse Configure parameter to Xorg server ?
[11:36] <ducasse> BluesKaj: good, thanks :) setting up containers on my server today, moving a couple of very light services to the rpi.
[15:11] <BluesKaj> well, goodbye to debian, i refuse to run  anOS whose support is run by anti-social geeks who can't even tolerate a common ciourtesy greeting, who make up ridiculous rules to keep unnecessary chatter like saying hello out of their precious support chat.
[15:12] <daftykins> ouch, so it's even worse than #ubuntu ? :)
[15:12] <BluesKaj> yes, much worse. more like arch
[15:12] <BluesKaj> hi daftykins , btw :-)
[15:12] <daftykins> heya :)
[15:13] <ducasse> BluesKaj: here or on oftc?
[15:13] <BluesKaj> ducasse, here on freenode
[15:13] <Bashing-om> I happen to like to carry on a line of chatter, If I can not I wont, but I wont be there ( ask ubuntu ) .
[15:14] <BluesKaj> the devel and debian testing chats oare on oftc , but they have practically all the same ops there too
[15:15] <BluesKaj> Hi Bashing-om, chatter is one thing but just saying hello is not chatter in my book
[15:16] <ducasse> BluesKaj: was not aware of that, thought the official chans were all there - until i asked alis just now
[15:48] <BluesKaj> think I'll give neon a try on the old hdd
[15:48] <BluesKaj> bblk
[16:00] <Bashing-om> I give in - Nap time - Be back later .
[20:37] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic xenial
[20:37] <Bashing-om> New kernel is out for xenial ^^ .
[20:39] <oerheks> zesty too, 4.10.0-33-generic #37-Ubuntu
[20:54] <daftykins> sheesh 3.13.0-129 here on trusty
[21:17] <nacc> daftykins: well, that'd be because you've chosen not to use hwe :)
[21:18] <daftykins> yep, don't need hardware support on a server in a VM!
[21:18] <nacc> daftykins: :)


[12:59] <hubuntu> Onno are you here?
[13:21] <pep> hi hubuntu
[13:21] <pep> just out of an exam
[13:21] <hubuntu> hi pep
[13:21] <hubuntu> reading for one here
[13:21] <pep> all right?
[13:22] <hubuntu> yeah, you?
[13:22] <pep> yeah realy
[13:22] <pep> you know that google tech talk I talked about on the list?
[13:22] <hubuntu> I'm working with a Spanish guy in SpreadUbuntu
[13:22] <pep> good
[13:23] <hubuntu> meisok is the one
[13:24] <hubuntu> ;)
[13:24] <hubuntu> 'hi
[13:24] <meisok> hi :)
[13:25] <hubuntu> pep, we are talking about the planning of a Spanish SPreadUbuntu as a proof of concept
[13:26] <pep> why not make it the right one straight away?
[13:26] <pep> in spanish and then translated
[13:26] <pep> it that's the question
[13:27] <hubuntu> the idea is to make it changeable enough so we can built the english site on it
[13:27] <pep> well anyways.. in the end SU, I think it would be good to have it in many languages
[13:28] <hubuntu> indeed
[13:28] <pep> try to think of it as the end SU, and other ppl will be able to work on it
[13:29] <pep> I suggest
[13:29] <hubuntu> yes but we need to lay out a framework of how this can be achieved
[13:29] <hubuntu> in order to be usable for all Teams in many languages
[13:30] <pep> yeah, well drupal has a  multilangual support no? because cms made simple does with some tweaks....
[13:30] <hubuntu> I'm thinking of drupal, yes
[13:31] <hubuntu> I guess I'm thinking more of the processes to make marketing material available for all Teams in many languages based on their local needs
[13:32] <hubuntu> The site should be an exposure site for material as well as a meeting point for designers/translators/marketeers/entusiast
[13:32] <hubuntu> s
[13:32] <pep> oh I see.... well maybe rather "sort " them per donating country in the actual SU....  that would add a competitive factor now that I think about it
[13:32] <hubuntu> per donating language rather than country/state
[13:32] <hubuntu> making them easy adaptable to local needs
[13:32] <pep> in al cases, make everything available to everyone and translatable
[13:32] <pep> yeah
[13:32] <pep> per language
[13:32] <hubuntu> yes, but even help people with the translation process
[13:33] <hubuntu> like be a coordinative place for such agenda
[13:33] <pep> yes
[13:33] <hubuntu> be a real market center
[13:33] <pep> like launchpad for marketing subjects
[13:33] <hubuntu> yes
[13:33] <pep> good definition that i just realize :)
[13:33] <hubuntu> but using the existing infraestructure instead of building a new one
[13:33] <pep> yeah
[13:34] <pep> and would launchpad source code itsef be adabtable?
[13:34] <pep> o.O
[13:34] <hubuntu> using wiki/LP as the work arena and the site as the front-end
[13:34] <pep> yepp
[13:34] <pep> that was ok last time also
[13:34] <pep> wiki for making it, background work
[13:35] <hubuntu> LP for translations and "bugs"
[13:35] <hubuntu> QA site for QA
[13:35] <pep> yeah.. some thing like that
[13:35] <hubuntu> brainstorm for idea sharing
[13:35] <pep> jepp, good thinking
[13:35] <hubuntu> and exposure
[13:36] <hubuntu> all connected through OpenID from Launchpad
[13:36] <hubuntu> ;)
[13:36] <pep> good thing ;)
[13:36] <hubuntu> it's huge, but If we prove it is feasible
[13:36] <hubuntu> and it works for the spanish communty people will join the party I hope
[13:37] <hubuntu> Are you up to working with that after you are done with your exams?
[13:37] <pep> well would it be a lot more work to directly make it for the international community?
[13:37] <hubuntu> when are you done?
[13:37] <pep> yeah sure
[13:37] <pep> the 23rd june.. count 'bout ten days and  I'm active
[13:37] <pep> or a week
[13:37] <hubuntu> pep, not really, but once you have something working, extending it is not a real issue if you know the shortcomings other communities may have
[13:38] <hubuntu> and making you a part of the process spands it to the int. community in a way
[13:38] <pep> sure
[13:38] <pep> just didn't see the interest in a way
[13:38] <pep> but it comes out to the sam ein the end anyway ;)
[13:38] <hubuntu> Meisok believes it's better to focus on one community at a time
[13:38] <hubuntu> in the beggining at least
[13:39] <hubuntu> work with the Hispanic LoCos and create some traction from that
[13:39] <pep> mhh yes
[13:39] <hubuntu> That should be relatively easy to manage within a short time frame
[13:39] <pep> well if you both think it is best that way, it's no problem for me...
[13:40] <hubuntu> and then you and I see the process and put the idea on the table for the rest of the Global MArketingTeam
[13:40] <pep> I even have some spanish knowledge
[13:40] <pep> yes, ok
[13:40] <hubuntu> que bueno ;)
[13:40] <pep> jeje
[13:40] <meisok> :D
[13:41] <hubuntu> we can work paralell with a english framework so we can "release" it to the Team at the same time
[13:41] <pep> yes, that's what I was thinking of
[13:41] <pep> I'll be working on the internationalisation
[13:41] <hubuntu> we, as in you and I
[13:41] <pep> yepp
[13:41] <hubuntu> but first
[13:41] <pep> ok, that's fine, I suppose this will be talked about mainly on the ubuntu-es list, I'll suscribe
[13:42] <hubuntu> meisok where shall we discuss this?
[13:42] <hubuntu> in ubuntu-es-locos or where?
[13:43] <meisok> yes
[13:43] <meisok> the list of ubuntu-is being used to support...
[13:43] <meisok> *ubuntu-es
[13:43] <meisok> ubuntu-es-locos is good
[13:43] <pep> you want to make a specific one?
[13:43] <hubuntu> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-es-locos
[13:43] <pep> ah ok
[13:44] <hubuntu> is the cooperation project/team for the Spanish community
[13:44] <hubuntu> the project would hapen in the frame of: https://edge.launchpad.net/loco+
[13:44] <pep> yes
[13:44] <hubuntu> or we can create a SpreadUbuntu project in LP with the MarketingTeam as driver
[13:45] <pep> yes that can be a very good idea
[13:45] <hubuntu> but first as I said, let's work on this as a spec
[13:46] <hubuntu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/SpreadUbuntu
[13:46] <pep> yes
[13:46] <hubuntu> taking actors (stakeholders), workflow and processes in account
[13:46] <hubuntu> and trying to think of how it is best to implement it
[13:47] <hubuntu> I think maybe we should have a Spanish version paralell to the english version
[13:47] <pep> yes sure
[13:47] <pep> I understood that
[13:47] <hubuntu> but let's concentrate on the english one first
[13:47] <pep> ok do you have somewhere I can subscribe to the list?
[13:48] <hubuntu> or whatever suits you best. Meisok understands English
[13:48] <hubuntu> and we will be the "core" of this project
[13:48] <hubuntu> LP
[13:48] <pep> I understand, and it doesn't bother me too much if ppl talk spanish of course
[13:49] <hubuntu> good
[13:49] <hubuntu> add youself to the team and then subscribe to the list
[13:50] <pep> I'll do that
[13:50] <pep> this afternoon or evening probably
[13:50] <pep> got to go now
[13:50] <hubuntu> We'll start a new thread on the subject
[13:50] <pep> np
[13:50] <hubuntu> by the end of the week
[13:50] <hubuntu> good luck wioth your exams
[13:50] <hubuntu> ;)
[13:51] <pep> thanks
[13:51] <pep> bb


[04:46] <qwebirc12914> has anyone else upgraded to the 0.29.0~master.20170412 packages and can no longer connect to the backend?
[04:52] <qwebirc12914> the frontend does stay connected, until it is restarted, and then cannot reconnect
[04:52] <qwebirc12914> mythweb displays the problem immediately
[21:01] <qwebirc16522> Last night I updated to the mythbuntu repository 20170412 packages
[21:02] <qwebirc16522> in the process, the mythtv database attempted to upgrade to schema 1347, which failed, and then I could no longer connect to the backend
[21:03] <qwebirc16522> so I had to revert to the 20170323 packages and restore a database backup
[21:03] <qwebirc16522> just wondering if anyone else has seen the same problem
[21:16] <qwebirc16522> version 0.29, in particular


[13:11] <dholbach> salut davidcalle
[13:11] <dholbach> davidcalle, did you see if the update of django cms helped any?
[13:14] <davidcalle> dholbach: I've literally just sent the RT for webops to run fix-tree, haven't tried the upgrade yet. I need to make sure the site is cleaned of page bugs before a new board page is added.
[13:16] <dholbach> django-ckeditor and djangocms-admin-style updates looks interesting too
[13:16] <dholbach> yes, that makes sense
[13:16] <dholbach> davidcalle, and delete_orphaned_plugins too?
[13:19] <davidcalle> dholbach: I'm afraid to run this one, since it actually deletes data from the db. Let's see how the first one goes ;)
[13:21] <davidcalle>  dholbach: I'm afraid to run this one, since it actually deletes data from the db. Let's see how the first one goes ;)
[13:27] <davidcalle> dholbach: I've made a few local changes to /snappy/build-apps/get-started and pinged kirofa about old commands in the snapcraft doc. Watch out for it if you decide to update manually with trunk doc.
[13:29] <dholbach> davidcalle, ok


[02:33] <vibhav> Good Morning!
[02:37] <bregma> good evening!
[13:49] <jtaylor> does changing to compat 9 and adding hardening flags need a ffe?
[14:53] <vibhav> put live.ubuntu.iso
[14:53] <vibhav> oops :)
[15:23] <PaoloRotolo> Hi all!
[16:56] <kees> jtaylor: which package?
[16:56] <jtaylor> gimmix
[17:09] <astraljava> Hi gang, I got a request for updating abiword's translations, as there appears to be updates for them since the current snapshot from sources that we have in precise. I'm new to updating translations, so what would be the process to follow in such cases? And is it right that the translations freeze isn't on, yet? (according to the release schedule, or am I reading it wrong?)
[17:09] <astraljava> Well, _I_ didn't get the request, but rather Xubuntu Team did.
[17:40] <jbicha_> astraljava: we're in sync with Debian's abiword, so you probably should contact the Debian maintainer about that
[17:43] <jbicha_> oh I guess we're not going to be in complete sync with Debian since their latest packaging has made the libpng15 transition
[17:56] <astraljava> jbicha_: Ok, so does that mean I should in fact just update the translations without Debian maintainer's consent? I'm not exactly sure how maintainable that would be, but I'd also want more complete translations into precise, as it's an LTS release after all.
[18:02] <jbicha_> astraljava: my opinion is that Debian should pull the latest translations, we in Ubuntu can then sync from Debian but we need to replace the libpng-dev build-depend with libpng12-dev
[18:09] <astraljava> jbicha_: Ok. What are your thoughts about doing that this late in the cycle?
[18:18] <jbicha_> astraljava: ideally we wouldn't be using git snapshots for an LTS, translations & bugfixes are good, but major code changes won't be
[18:22] <astraljava> jbicha_: That's my understanding, too. So updating the translations would be creating a debdiff on po/ directory from the sources? Or what would be the right way to do it?
[18:24] <jbicha_> astraljava: yes that sounds fine, or you could ask the Debian maintainer if a newer git snapshot would be safe too
[18:25] <astraljava> jbicha_: Ok, I'll go email the maintainer first. Thanks for your help!
[22:06] <mfisch> hey masters, what's the typical ETA on a dput?  It's been over 7 hours and I have no email not a published package
[22:06] <mfisch> I expect at least a "fail" email
[22:07] <ajmitch> dput to where?
[22:08] <mfisch> sorry, dput to a personal PPA
[22:09] <ajmitch> you'll want to check with #launchpad then
[22:09] <mfisch> ajmitch: got it, thanks
[22:09] <ajmitch> it ought to be a matter of minutes
[22:10] <mfisch> ajmitch: it certainly is for my day job
[23:15] <mfisch> so apparently LP won't accept my unsigned packages
[23:15] <mfisch> is there a way to sign a package as myself even though I'm not in the changelog?
[23:16] <psusi> why aren't you in the changelog?
[23:16] <mfisch> psusi: just doing a favor for jono, helping him package something, and I want to try it from my ppa first
[23:16] <mfisch> psusi: if it's required, I'll add myself
[23:17] <psusi> I think it is required, so yea, just add an entry for yourself
[23:17] <mfisch> psusi: I hope that's not considered stealing credit, that's what I was trying to avoid
[23:18] <psusi> depends on what the entry says... you can just say you are uploading it to your ppa
[23:18] <mfisch> psusi: then I'll leave it as-is in bzr
[23:19] <mfisch> psusi: thanks
[23:29] <ajmitch> mfisch: you can pass the key id you want to sign with to debuild (or bzr-buildpackage)


[00:33] <ankraft> I am unfamiliar with the process, how is Canonical able to provide timely security patches to all the packages in the system (tens of thousands)?
[00:37] <sarnold> ankraft: canonical provides security updates for packages that are located in the 'main' pocket of the archive; we rely upon community members to prepare and test patches for packages in the 'universe' pocket: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/FAQ
[00:39] <sarnold> ankraft: every weekly security team meeting we highlight several packages in universe that need attention, e.g. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/Security/20140303
[00:40] <sarnold> ankraft: sometimes we can simply roll forward an update from debian, those show up as 'sync match' on this chart: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/d2u/
[00:42] <ankraft> thanks! I can't seem to find the list of packages in a release's main (my google skills appear to be broken atm). Where is the list located?
[00:43] <sarnold> hrm, good question.
[00:43] <sarnold> (in general if it is on a disc it should be in main. i'll go hunting around to see if I can find a full list.. we use a tool that's not packaged and not really convenient for users when determining if a package is in main or universe)
[00:52] <sarnold> ankraft: aha! found it. try: apt-cache madison apt
[00:52] <sarnold> ankraft: compare against apt-cache madison rxvt-unicode
[00:53] <sarnold> it's not exactly a list, but it is convenient enough, and can be scripted around dpkg -l or apt-cache pkgnames
[00:56] <ankraft> perfect!
[00:57] <ankraft> there appears to be quite a few packages in main. Still seems like a massive effort to keep them in check. How large is Canonical's team to maintain all the packages?
[01:00] <axisys> tftp Transfer timeout .. tcpdump does not show any reply on udp port 69 .. tftpd-hpa server not seeing any log.. no firewall on
[01:00] <axisys> nc -u -l 69 and from client tftp; get foo shows logs.. so networ is OK
[01:01] <axisys> tcpdump on the server only pkts coming in.. nothing going out
[01:03] <sarnold> ankraft: there are seven of us on the security team; one handles web browser things nearly full time, three handle apparmor things nearly full time, the rest handle updates, auditing, other platform security improvements, etc
[01:06] <ankraft> sarnold: interesting. Do you know if Debian has a full time security team or do they strictly rely on community support?
[01:07] <sarnold> ankraft: good question, I've never asked. those guys are productive enough I suspect that at least one or two of them must do some of their duties at an employer
[01:10] <ankraft> sarnold: so it is pretty silo'd then between debian and ubuntu teams for security patches (other than the sync match you pointed out earlier). Or is there a lot of overlap and working together on issues?
[01:12] <sarnold> ankraft: if debian has prepared a patch before we have, we can often use their work for our packages; likewise, if we prepare a patch before they do, they can often use our patches. And we double-check each other's triaging efforts, which is very convenient because the archives are -huge- and sometimes a package that contains duplicated code is overlooked in one or the other place
[01:35] <jjohansen> sarnold, ankraft: that is selling short the kernel side. We have three members of the kernel team dedicated to doing stable kernel updates, and since most stable kernel updates involve security fixes we get a lot of work from them
[01:36] <sarnold> jjohansen: oh! yes, indeed I had overloooked the kernel more or less completely.
[03:26] <densin> I would like to ask . I add secound interface eth1  which not same network and gateway with eth0.
[03:27] <densin> add in /etc/network/interfaces .
[03:27] <densin> interface up .  ping gateway2 is ok ... but route not show
[03:29] <densin> anyway to check ?
[03:29] <PryMar56> densin, port_forwarding enabled?
[03:30] <PryMar56> sysctl -p
[03:31] <densin> no ,I not mean to do fw or proxy ..   I have separate service bind diffrent  interface
[03:32] <densin> do I need to route add gw manualy with diffent metric  ?
[03:43] <densin> amm not work
[12:49] <moparisthebest> hi, I'm trying to implement pam_google_authenticator into my server, but i'm not sure the *correct* pam configuration file to place it in
[12:49] <moparisthebest> I think it'd be either common-auth or common-account, though both seem included everywhere one is included
[12:49] <moparisthebest> so maybe it doesn't matter?
[12:50] <moparisthebest> anyhow, I'd like it to be used everywhere a normal password would be otherwise, at the console, ssh, sudo, su, and with it in common-auth it is
[12:50] <moparisthebest> I just don't want it to block non-interactive things, cron, I see one for dovecot, etc etc, any ideas?
[12:56] <jamescarr> is the GNUTILS bug patched in ubuntu 12.10?
[13:03] <Patrickdk> yes
[13:03] <Patrickdk> or well, is 12.10 even supported?
[13:04] <Patrickdk> april 2014, so yes, you just bearly made it
[13:04] <jamescarr> lol
[13:04] <jamescarr> how ironic. I am doing distro upgrades this week
[13:04] <jamescarr> and GNUTLS bug comes along
[13:04] <Patrickdk> well, your still kindof out of luck
[13:04] <Patrickdk> it was 13.04 they made the change in
[13:05] <Patrickdk> and 13.04 is eol, so no fix there
[13:05] <jamescarr> 13.10 still uses the 2.12?
[13:06] <Patrickdk> hmm?
[13:06] <jamescarr> λ ~ → dpkg -s libgnutls-openssl27
[13:06] <jamescarr> Version: 2.12.23-1ubuntu4
[13:06] <jamescarr> http://gnutls.org/security.html
[13:07] <Patrickdk> you really don't understand distros do you
[13:07] <jamescarr> I do... 2.12 is considered stable ain't it
[13:07] <Patrickdk> what does the version have to do with anything?
[13:08] <jamescarr> 2.12.x has a nasty certificate exploit
[13:08] <Patrickdk> says who?
[13:09] <Patrickdk> lets see here
[13:09] <Patrickdk> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2127-1/
[13:09] <Patrickdk> according to that,      libgnutls26 2.12.23-1ubuntu4.2 doesn't
[13:09] <Patrickdk> please do note
[13:09] <Patrickdk> these are UBUNTU versions, not gnutls versions
[13:10] <Patrickdk> so using gnutls documentation about exploits is pointless
[13:10] <jamescarr> ha thank you ;)
[13:11] <jamescarr> and our nodes already have that version to
[14:57] <GeekDude> I'm thinking of getting a graphical environment for my home server. I want something lightweight, so I was thinking lxde, especially because I have experience with it on my raspberry pi. Would you recommend something else? Or something more server-oriented?
[14:57] <cfhowlett> GeekDude, lxde or xfce are the ones I have experience with.  both lightweights
[14:58] <GeekDude> would you recommend one over the other?
[14:59] <cfhowlett> GeekDude, pretty much the same look/feel as far as I'm concerned.  Note: xfce is the basis for xubuntu AND ubuntustudio FWIIW
[15:01] <GeekDude> cfhowlett: From what I've read, xfce is only slightly heavier, but with greatly increased configurability/useability
[15:01] <genii> GeekDude: Did you need a full suite of apps or are you just going to be using 2-3 things all the time?
[15:02] <genii> ( because even lighter is something more basic like twm then you run your app from an xterm)
[15:02] <GeekDude> genii: Probably just a web browser, maybe MC if I can get it to install (My box has an agp port, and I just found an agp gfx card, wanna test it)
[15:02] <GeekDude> I need to be able to test the webserver(s) locally, and lynx just won't cut it
[15:04] <genii> GeekDude: Alternately, install xvfb and then run X over ssh to your regular box.
[15:05] <GeekDude> Wouldn't just installing XAuth work?
[15:06] <genii> GeekDude: xvfb is good for testing because it installs minimal X, also you can tell it to use different resolutions and grab a screenshot, etc
[15:07] <GeekDude> I think I'm gonna try out xfce
[15:08] <jamescarr> can someone clear up for me the gnutls bug?
[15:27] <spidernik84> hi there! Question about the new dns configuration in 12.04: I know we're supposed to specify the dns servers in the interfaces file, but what if we have multiple bridges (on a kvm host in this case). Do we need to put the dns-nameservers line in each interface stanza?
[15:27] <spidernik84> stgraber, I'm sure you're the most suitable person to answer this :)
[15:27] <mardraum> your host doesn't need to lookup dns on the bridge
[15:28] <spidernik84> thanks. So the bond would be enough
[15:29] <mardraum> if that's your default gateway for the host, yes
[15:30] <spidernik84> it is. I thought the dns was setup systemwide
[15:30] <jrwren> it is.
[15:30] <jrwren> all that happens is ifup eventually calls resolfconf <interfacename> and passes the nameserver config to it.
[15:30] <jrwren> assuming you are using resolvconf
[15:32] <spidernik84> yes, resolvconf. Thanks
[15:34] <Delemas> I'm trying to get an enterprise to support running their products on Ubuntu. Do we have any good sourced data on enterprise server use of Ubuntu vs other distributions (RHEL for example)? I'm looking for percentages or a graph etc.
[15:37] <GeekDude> :D Just got ICS working between my server and my laptop, with the Win7 laptop as the host
[15:39] <GeekDude> hmm. Trying to set the DNS server, and resolv.conf says not to edit it by hand
[15:39] <spidernik84> GeekDude, https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html#name-resolution
[15:40] <JanC> Delemas: there used to be something like that
[15:40] <GeekDude> ah, thanks
[15:40] <Delemas> I just found this which might be good enough: http://w3techs.com/technologies/details/os-linux/all/all
[15:40] <Delemas> It is all web servers vs. enterprise use though...
[15:41] <GeekDude> spidernik84: Thanks. DNS is working now
[15:42] <spidernik84> np!
[15:42] <GeekDude> P=!NP
[16:04] <GeekDude> Uuh, am I missing something, or can I not just do apt-get install xfce
[16:05] <GeekDude> apt-get install xfce4?
[16:08] <GeekDude> Why is my terminal only 36 lines tall, when the current screen resolution is 1600x1200? It only takes up 1/4 of the space in the top left corner
[16:09] <genii> GeekDude: Yes, xfce4 for just the desktop
[16:10] <GeekDude> oh, nvm.    I seem my ubuntu can't ping  ipv6.google.com.
[16:23] <densin> or event lookup IP
[16:35] <paco11> hi folks
[16:44] <paco11> I'm running 12.04.4 x64. i'm testing the openldap server with JMeter. i added "session required        pam_limits.so" in /etc/pam.d/common-session. i added "* hard  nofile  65000 | root  hard  nofile  65000 | openldap  hard  nofile  65000" in /etc/security/limits.conf. i added "fs.file-max = 65536" in /etc/sysctl.conf. With all these configurations, i follow to have "Too Many Open files" with cat /proc/sys/fs/file-nr > 1696	0	65536
[16:49] <metasansana> so what's the future of upstart?
[17:04] <ogra> metasansana, whatever you make of it :)
[17:18] <_root_> hello guys
[17:18]  * _root_ asks for help on the subject http://askubuntu.com/questions/429743/setting-max-connections-in-mysql-server-globally
[17:19] <Pici> !ask
[17:22] <RoyK> _root_: isn't that just setting max_connections?
[17:23] <_root_> RoyK, I don't know nothing about this; If you know plz explain m8.
[17:23] <RoyK> just set max_connections in my.cnf to whatever max you want
[17:23] <RoyK> _root_: mysql> show variables like 'max_connections';
[17:24] <RoyK> that'll show the current
[17:26] <_root_> RoyK, How to force mysql to create only 3 process for example
[17:26] <avid_fan> Question: Anyone know how to choose a different typeface for the console?
[17:26] <RoyK> _root_: why?
[17:27] <_root_> RoyK, Look at the Q? my sql on the new Server install creates 20 processes and eats 50% of memory
[17:27] <RoyK> _root_: innodb and myisam have different tuning parameters for the number of threads to be started
[17:27] <RoyK> _root_: google a bit about mysql tuning. btw - how much memory is in this machine?
[17:27] <_root_> RoyK, innodb myisam?
[17:27] <_root_> RoyK, 1GB
[17:28] <RoyK> _root_: not a whole lot
[17:28] <RoyK> _root_: better tune down memory use for mysql
[17:28] <_root_> RoyK, It is a VPS not a DS
[17:29] <RoyK> understood
[17:29] <RoyK> (but what's DS?)
[17:29] <_root_> RoyK, that's what I am asking. HOW to tell mysql to create for example 5 processes instead of 20. (DS = dedicated Server)
[17:30] <RoyK> it doesn't matter how many processess it starts
[17:30] <_root_> RoyK, nd this is the first time II have this problem.
[17:30] <RoyK> it matters how much memory it uses
[17:30] <RoyK> _root_: how big is the database?
[17:30] <_root_> RoyK, yes; I agree with you.
[17:31] <_root_> RoyK, it is not big at all. it is a fresh install. I don't even have a database in my sql right now
[17:31] <GeekDude> Does ubuntu server come with sound drivers? Or do I need to install alsa or someting
[17:31] <RoyK> _root_: pastebin "ps axfv" output
[17:31] <RoyK> !pastebin | _root_
[17:32] <_root_> GeekDude, I install 12.04.4 LTS yesterday and I was installed by default
[17:32] <_root_> maybe install an alsamixer?
[17:33] <GeekDude> hmm
[17:34] <GeekDude> alsamixer fails unless run as root?
[17:36] <GeekDude> hmm... xfce added a neat background to grub it seems
[17:41] <GeekDude> ah. Sounds only work as root
[17:41] <GeekDude> do I need to add myself to some user group or something?
[17:43] <qman__> GeekDude: audio
[17:43] <GeekDude> sudo adduser me audio
[17:43] <GeekDude> Yes?
[17:44] <qman__> yes
[17:45] <qman__> then log out and back in
[17:47] <GeekDude> Great, it works. Thanks!
[17:47]  * GeekDude watches youtube
[17:50] <RoyK> _root_: did you pastebin that?
[17:55] <_root_> RoyK, it is something wrong. I can't even VNC to it now? I am trying wait
[17:55] <RoyK> k
[18:00] <_root_> RoyK, 76% memory; No wonder I can't Vnc
[18:01] <RoyK> _root_: ps axfv|pastebinit
[18:01] <_root_> RoyK, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7039765/
[18:02] <RoyK> _root_: and free?
[18:02] <RoyK> _root_: not a whole lot of real memory used there
[18:02] <_root_> RoyK,
[18:06] <_root_> RoyK, What o you mean; So why 75% memory?
[18:07] <_root_> RoyK, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7039792/   it is after a reboot
[18:12] <RoyK> _root_: did you pastebin output of 'free'?
[18:14] <_root_> RoyK, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7039840/
[18:19] <RoyK> _root_: that tells you you're using about 100MB of RAM
[18:19] <RoyK> the rest is buffers/cache
[18:19] <RoyK> the first row of "used" will climb
[18:19] <RoyK> because that includes what's used for buffers/cache
[18:20] <RoyK> that memory will be released if needed
[18:20] <_root_> RoyK, So did i go under attack of some kind? it was 75% about a minute ago
[18:21] <RoyK> doubt it
[18:21] <RoyK> did you check the -/+ buffers/cache: row?
[18:22] <RoyK> _root_: also, if you're afraid of being attacked, make sure to enable ufw. "ufw allow ssh && ufw enable"
[18:22] <RoyK> perhaps "ufw status" first to check if it's enabled already
[18:24] <_root_> RoyK, inactive
[18:24] <RoyK> then enable it
[18:24] <RoyK> it's easy and secure
[18:24] <RoyK> just make sure to open for stuff you need from the outside, like http
[18:25] <RoyK> and make sure you allow ssh before you enable it
[18:26] <_root_> RoyK, Thank m8; really Helped
[18:26]  * _root_ gives RoyK +1
[18:27] <RoyK> _root_: now, by default, your vm will only be accessible by ssh, ufw allow http etc will open up
[18:27] <RoyK> man ufw for more info
[18:30] <_root_> RoyK, T H A N K Y o U man
[18:30] <_root_> really
[18:30] <RoyK> np :)
[18:42] <RoyK> _root_: run som tests with mysql/apache and check "free" output again, and you'll see that the amount of "free" memory drastically decreases, which is fine, since it's used for caching ;)
[18:44] <_root_> RoyK, So what you are saying ; Is that the web server and mysql claim the memory but not use it. and if the load added to them they use what they graped before
[18:44] <RoyK> no, I'm saying they don't, but that linux probably uses the memory for caching
[18:45] <RoyK> _root_: let it run for some time, do some tests, don't reboot, and post ps axfv; free etc
[20:40] <jamespage> smb, ping me tomorrow and well sort iscsitarget once and for all :-)
[20:48] <iTrace> I own this server and I have two apps in two seperate directories on the server. Can i have the apps accessible via a single domain?
[21:02] <zenadm1n> Has anyone here done a Ubuntu install from HP ILO?
[21:03] <bekks> zenadm1n: Why?
[21:03] <bekks> !anyone | zenadm1n
[21:06] <zenadm1n> HP ILO gives me the option of RHEL or SUSE. Ubuntu isn't an option although HP says it's supported.
[21:06] <DeltaHeavy> Hey, I'm wondering what's the reasoning for not including MariaDB in the Ubuntu repos. Can anybody help me understand?
[21:08] <bekks> zenadm1n: HP ILO doesnt have such a menu at all. HP SmartStart does.
[21:08] <bekks> zenadm1n: ILO is the management web interface.
[21:10] <henkjan_> DeltaHeavy: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/database/
[21:11] <henkjan_> DeltaHeavy: mariadb is in the repo's for trusty
[21:11] <DeltaHeavy> henkjan_: They're not in 12.04 though >:
[21:12] <henkjan_> 12.04. almost 2 years ago no distro had mariadb in the repo's
[21:13] <DeltaHeavy> henkjan_: I thought they might add it in thogh.
[21:14] <henkjan_> DeltaHeavy: no. only existing software is updated. no new software is being added once a release is done
[21:15] <DeltaHeavy> Ok, got it.
[21:16] <DeltaHeavy> Thanks!
[21:42] <jamespage> zul, ceilometer -> python-croniter
[22:30] <thumper> hmm...
[22:31] <thumper> why would upstart say a job is unknown?
[22:31] <thumper> when I can see it in /etc/init
[22:31] <thumper> it did seem that udev wasn't started due to too many open files when I started the container
[22:31] <thumper> btw, this is inside an lxc container
[22:31] <thumper> I started about 50 at once
[22:31] <thumper> load testing to see if it died....
[22:31] <thumper> lxc tells me all the machines are running
[22:32] <thumper> I can ssh into it
[22:32] <thumper> but juju failed to start the machine agent
[22:32] <thumper> and when I try to start it manually, it fails
[22:32] <thumper> saying "unknown job"
[22:34] <zul> jamespage:  seriously?!
[22:56] <m1sf1t> hi, does anyone know of a program that can do a similar thing to system restore in windows? i need to make a lot of changes to my server, and would like to be able to restore it if it all goes to hell. any suggestions?
[22:57] <m1sf1t> i've considered using dd, but i'm not sure if it'd be safe or reliable to use dd if=/ of /path/to/backup.img
[22:57] <m1sf1t> ...while the system is running
[22:58] <sarnold> m1sf1t: nothing exactly like windows's system restore.. a few ideas, you can use e.g. btrfs or zfs snapshotting at the filesystem level, or use lvm snapshots at the block level, or you can use dd to generate a disk image that you could use to overwrite the server ..
[22:58] <sarnold> you shouldn't use dd if=/dev/blah if /dev/blah is mounted read-write. if it is mounted read-only it ought to function.
[22:58] <m1sf1t> sarnold: do you know if dd would be safe or reliable to use while running? or should i boot a live cd and do it that way?
[22:59] <sarnold> m1sf1t: live cd would be easiest
[23:00] <sarnold> m1sf1t: ooh, I'm proud of this one :) you could use qemu-img to convert the disk image into a qcow2 image, snapsoht, do the work in a vm, and either re-export it or rollback
[23:00] <m1sf1t> sarnold: hmm... downtime :/ i think i'll have to do that. also, if i were to dd the whole filesystem (80GB) do you know if it's possible to reduce that size? or is that restricted by the filesystem?
[23:01] <sarnold> m1sf1t: you'll have to read all 80 gigs, but you might not have to write all 80 gigs, if you use the conv=sparse option and your 'empty space' has been zeroed already...
[23:03] <m1sf1t> sarnold: just saw what you said about qemu-img, that sounds interesting :) a bit confused haha but i see what you're getting at
[23:04] <m1sf1t> sarnold: i think i'll keep it at 80GB. although i would have to do it now lol as it's the least busy time
[23:05] <m1sf1t> sarnold: i'll be replacing my file server hdd with a 2TB soon so i can make do with a little less storage for now ;)
[23:08] <sarnold> m1sf1t: woo :)
[23:10] <m1sf1t> sarnold: haha :) thanks for the advice, i'm gonna boot into a cd now then, so gotta go. bye :)
[23:10] <sarnold> m1sf1t: have fun!
[23:11] <m1sf1t> sarnold: will do! staring at a terminal with no idea how long dd has left lol :D
[23:11] <m1sf1t> sarnold: cya
[23:12] <genii> dd could really use some kind of prgress indicator
[23:12] <genii> ( when source or dest ore finite)
[23:12] <genii> *are
[23:13] <sarnold> definitely. I wish linux supported siginfo
[23:21] <zul> jamespage:  i have it packaged locally with tests running so ill upload it tomorrow
[23:38] <m1sf1t> sarnold: back, i forgot... ubuntu server is installed on a raid1 software array (the default one in the ubuntu server setup). the live cd hasn't recognised it :( do you know how to mount md0, when it doesn't even show under /dev/ ?
[23:38] <m1sf1t> sarnold: well, not mount. i just need to get an ubuntu live cd to recognise it
[23:39] <sarnold> m1sf1t: yikes, that's not good. sorry, I don't know anything about mdadm stuff :(
[23:40] <m1sf1t> sarnold: haha me neither :( this is the first time i've even used raid, had to google the numbers lol


[09:41] <xml013> hello there
[09:43] <xml013> when trying to join #ubuntu channel , you get redirected to #ubuntu-unregged , is this a temporary thing ?
[09:44] <xml013> any way, does some one here know how checkbox is called on the bash shell ?
[09:45] <rOss^64> try now, nickserv is back up
[09:45] <xml013> trying to make an automated usb thumbdrive that wil run the system check of labtops
[09:45] <xml013> on boot
[09:45] <xml013>  :)
[09:51] <xml013> okee, found something, have to reboot for test, thanx for your time ( extracted desktop entry to find what is did , and how )
[15:15] <hggdh> if there is a redirect from #ubuntu to #ubuntu-unregged, it is on non-registered (to freenode) users


[16:48] <Kilos> Na3iL you wanna join #iterum. thats the new channel for ibid rebuild
[16:48] <Kilos> hellooo africa as well
[16:54] <Na3iL> Hello Kilos
[16:54] <Na3iL> Sure
[17:01] <Na3iL> Kilos, btw who have the access to the account Ubuntu Africa in twitter
[17:01] <Na3iL> cheche doesn't..
[17:02] <Kilos> um
[17:02] <Kilos> oh my
[17:02] <Kilos> chesedo- do you remember
[17:04] <Na3iL> inetpro, ^
[17:06] <pavlushka> Please someone tell me how to make the text in ubuntu wiki justified!
[17:07] <Kilos> Na3iL a wiki master
[17:08] <Na3iL> ''''' before and after your sentence
[17:08] <Kilos> huh?
[17:08] <Kilos> oh
[17:10] <Na3iL> Kilos, hahaha
[17:11] <Na3iL> pavlushka, take a look here, all the tricks of  formatting https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WikiGuide/Formatting
[17:23] <pavlushka> Na3iL: 6 inverted commas before and 6 inverted commas after?
[17:24] <pavlushka> or 3-3?
[17:25] <Na3iL> let me check; 1 sec
[17:26] <Na3iL> yep 6 before and after