[13:03] <subdesign> any idea how to access localhost with android phone trough wifi?
[13:03] <nimesh_accenture> hi guys i'm getting this error , any clue?
[13:03] <nimesh_accenture> pycurl.error: (60, 'server certificate verification failed. CAfile: /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt CRLfile: none')
[13:03] <zykotick9> subdesign: "localhost" is the local computer/device...
[13:03] <delinquentme> Stanley00, doesnt look like its doing it .. made a ruby.rb file and its not showing up
[13:04] <subdesign> zykotick9, yes. typing into opera i get a ~not found error
[13:04] <Stanley00> delinquentme: hmm, it's strange.
[13:04] <zykotick9> subdesign: on android?  try an android channel perhaps, it's OT here.
[13:05] <subdesign> ok
[13:06] <Stanley00> delinquentme: I think you should check the permission of ~/Templates
[13:08] <Nodivide> accenture ... maybe you need to give the correct read permisions to the cert server... or program that is accessing it
[13:11] <subdesign> ok, how to get apache ip address?
[13:11] <solid_liq> !ping
[13:11] <nimesh_accenture> what does this error mean while trying to do an apt-get ?pycurl.error: (60, 'server certificate verification failed. CAfile: /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt CRLfile: none')
[13:11] <ManDay> Has the "Is it out?" phase begun yet?
[13:11] <dexel99> hey everybody...can someone please help me with some instruction?
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> ManDay,  no.
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[13:12] <ManDay> Dr_Willis: :P Then may I slip in a question: Is there an approximate date for when Ubuntu will come with wayland?
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> dexel99,  with what issue?
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> ManDay,  wayland is in the next release.but its still a testing type stage.
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> its in the repos at least.
[13:12] <dexel99> i can not install drivrer for CNet CQU-906
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> dexel99,  and what is that device exactly?
[13:13] <ManDay> Dr_Willis: Yeah, I'm just curious how much Canonical will get involved with pushing development forward
[13:13] <dexel99> it's my wireless network adapter via usb
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> dexel99,  you should try to determine what chipset its using. also the forums or askubuntu.com Might have some info for that exact model dongle.
[13:14] <Nodivide> download revoke.crl from cacert.org and copy to appropiate dir
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> 'its all about the chipset' :)
[13:14] <dexel99> i try the solution from ubuntuforum...but it still not working
[13:19] <dexel99> ok guys. thank your for support :)
[13:19] <neurotech> test
[13:19] <dexel99> it's working fine
[13:19] <neurotech> ta
[13:20] <APoulos> Would anyone want to help me with a small little command?
[13:20] <zykotick9> APoulos: "w" is the smallest command i know ;)
[13:20] <APoulos> trying to exclude a whole directory with Rsync but its not working the way I wish it would
[13:20] <APoulos> zykotick9, lolol
[13:21] <MrUnagi> my username in the user switcher says invalid utf-8….any way to fix that
[13:21] <APoulos> zykotick9, here's basically what I've got so far: rsync --progress -rEog --exclude-from="$/Videos" /home/alex /media/backup/12.04-Precise-backup_4.23.2012/
[13:22] <APoulos> zykotick9, actually - scratch that, thats an older copy
[13:22] <APoulos> zykotick9, here's what I made just a few minutes ago: rsync --progress -rEog --exclude="home/alex/Videos" /home/alex /media/backup/12.04-Precise-backup_4.23.2012/
[13:22] <APoulos> zykotick9, the problem is that the videos directory is still made
[13:22] <zykotick9> APoulos: the will probably help the channel.  I'm an rsync noob, so can't really help.  FYI if you are using 12.04 you should be asking in #ubuntu+1 (12.04 isn't supported here) but really you should check if there is an rsync channel.
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> theres proberly whole books written about rsync :)
[13:23] <MrUnagi> rsync is awesome
[13:23] <APoulos> I know, ive been reading the man pages, but some of it just isnt working the way Im reading it as
[13:23] <zykotick9> APoulos: if i where you i might test ".. --exclude=Videos ..." myself.
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> when in doubt check delicious.com for 'rsync tutorial' tags. :) i tend to get better hits there then google
[13:24] <MrUnagi> such as?
[13:24] <APoulos> Dr_Willis, zykotick9 I've been trying to get the bloody thing to quit creating that folder.
[13:24] <APoulos> MrUnagi, such as some exclusion params dont have examples
[13:24] <blaine00> Hey everyone!
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> isent that exclude path incorrect?  should be /home/username/Video
[13:25] <Keo-w> i moved my ubuntu vm to a 5.0 box from 4.1 now it has no networking adapter. I've tried several different ones and it comes up empty. Anyone seen this before?
[13:26] <zykotick9> Keo-w: 5.0 & 4.1 of what?
[13:27] <Keo-w> 4.1 of esx to 5.0 of esxi
[13:27] <Keo-w> copied the vm over basically
[13:28] <blaine00> Quick and easy question... will 12.04 beta 2 eventually just update to the 12.04 release or is there actually a need to installed 12.04 final when it is released?
[13:28] <iceroot> blaine00: it will update to the final
[13:28] <zykotick9> !final | blaine00
[13:28] <APoulos> and even reading some of the man pages, there aren't very direct examples..
[13:29] <blaine00> awesome, that is what I was thinking, just wanted to make sure. Thanks everyone!
[13:29] <MrUnagi> how much faster is the alternate ubuntu than the desktop
[13:30] <zykotick9> MrUnagi: if you mean the alternate cd - it's the same, after install?
[13:30] <MrUnagi> i thought alternate was cli only
[13:30] <MrUnagi> is that the server install?
[13:30] <zykotick9> MrUnagi: the install is yes
[13:30] <MrUnagi> crap lol
[13:31] <zykotick9> MrUnagi: check out mini if you want a cli desktop
[13:32] <APoulos> so
[13:32] <MrUnagi> i need to install an ssh terminal server so that it routes to the right computer based on what user I'm trying to log into or something like that
[13:32] <MrUnagi> is that possible?
[13:32] <MrUnagi> so that i don't have to forward a bunch of ports
[13:32] <APoulos> Dr_Willis, the only way out of this predicament is that I must specific /home/alex/Videos ? no shortcuts like "~/Videos/
[13:34] <mm_> I have a question, maybe you can help me?
[13:34] <APoulos> Dr_Willis, ah well it still made the folder.. rsync --progress -rEog --exclude="/home/alex/Videos" /home/alex /media/backup/12.04-Precise-backup_4.23.2012/
[13:35] <zykotick9> !ask | mm_
[13:35] <sloucher> !patience
[13:35] <mm_> i turned my machine on this morning and the panel that's supposed to be at the top was right through the middle.
[13:35] <zykotick9> !msgthebot > sloucher
[13:35] <mm_> (of my monitor/desktop_
[13:36] <mm_> any ideas?
[13:36] <jack_^> mm_: relog?
[13:36] <mm_> yeah, tried relogging, restarting etc.  didn't help.  eventually i moved it to the left side.
[13:37] <MrUnagi> installing ubuntu into a virtual machine on ubuntu seems to crash it every time
[13:37] <APoulos> mm_, do you have Unity instead of Gnome?
[13:38] <mm_> i believe so yes, but i can check to make sure.  i've only been using this for a few daze.
[13:38] <APoulos> mm_, maybe some recent install or uninstall mightve messed up your desktop environments
[13:38] <MrUnagi> daze?
[13:38] <mm_> maybe.  that's possible.   daze = days
[13:39] <mm_> does the install have a "fix" option?
[13:39] <mm_> i don't remember.
[13:39] <Nodivide> dazed for days
[13:39] <APoulos> mm_, er, well, which one where you using previously
[13:39] <APoulos> ?
[13:39] <APoulos> mm_, gnome or Unity?
[13:39] <mm_> additionally, i'm on a mission to extend my desktop, anyone have any luck with that?
[13:40] <zykotick9> mm_: do you know what video card you are using?
[13:40] <mm_> i didn't know there was gonna be a test lol
[13:40] <zykotick9> mm_: if you can open a terminal "lspci | grep -i vga"
[13:40] <mm_> i'm pretty sure it's integrated.  dell laptop
[13:41] <mm_> i'll get the specifics for you.
[13:41] <APoulos> mm_, ok did one of them have a huge dock on the side panel? or did you have little thin black bars?
[13:41] <MrUnagi> crap i lost connection to my ubuntu box again
[13:41] <Nodivide> mmm dell i use to work for hell...err dell
[13:42] <Krambiorix> hi guys, i would like to copy all files in a directory structure but not the directories, how can i do that?
[13:42] <mm_> i have very few problems with it.  i will admit i would buy another dell.
[13:42] <Walther> Is there a separate channel for Ubuntu Core?
[13:42] <Walther> ubottu: ubuntu core
[13:43] <APoulos> mm_, what exactly does your desktop look like at this moment? can you screen cap it?
[13:43] <mm_> sure.
[13:43] <mm_> one sec.  jpg ok?
[13:43] <MrUnagi> anyone have any ideas why installing ubuntu in a virtual machine on ubuntu crashes
[13:44] <zykotick9> MrUnagi: what ubuntu version and what VM program?
[13:44] <Walther> Does anyone know whether Ubuntu Core supports ARMv6 or only ARMv7?
[13:44] <MrUnagi> zykotick9: 11.10 virtualbox
[13:44] <zykotick9> MrUnagi: ? i'd think that should work
[13:45] <MrUnagi> its crashed with desktop and alternate
[13:45] <astrolite> Walther: I think so, but I think it may depend on what graphics card etc that you have
[13:45] <APoulos> mm_, yes, jpeg is fine, upload to imgur.com
[13:45] <ruman> hi every one
[13:46] <crypted> anyone know if there will be a easy conversion process to x64 should it become default for 12.04?
[13:46] <Walther> astrolite: from what I've heard, Ubuntu (as in, Ubuntu) is being built for ARMv7 upwards, was just wondering if the Ubuntu Core would be possible to port to ARMv6
[13:46] <mm_> looks like i spoke too soon, the sysinfo says it's ubuntu 11.10(oneiric) gnome 2.32.1 kernel 3.0.0-17 generic.  loading screen says xbuntu though.
[13:46] <Oer> crypted, conversion from 32 to 64 ?
[13:46] <zykotick9> crypted: if you are asking if you can upgrade 32bit to 64bit - no, you can't
[13:47] <astrolite> Walther: ok, don't know
[13:47] <crypted> roger that.  i know as of yet its impossible except by hacking the crap out of ubuntu.  i figured there may be an easier development since canoical is considering a swap to x64 default.
[13:47] <APoulos> mm_, is your login setup to automatic?
[13:47] <astrolite> I would like for wine on 64bit to be fixed for release, or at least in time for diablo 3 *holds thumbs*
[13:48] <compdoc> MrUnagi, you using a 32 bit guest type?
[13:48] <MrUnagi> yes
[13:48] <auronandace> crypted: 64bit has been around for years and is working very well
[13:48] <crypted> auronandace: i know that.  however, the default iso has been 32.
[13:48] <crypted> because not all apps/packages were ready in the prior release, we went with 32 for our church.
[13:48] <APoulos> alright guys, I'm having one hell of a time trying to get this directory backed up without the /videos/ directory
[13:49] <crypted> i'm trying to determine an easier conversion method without flat redoing it all.
[13:49] <crypted> figure i wont even attempt it now
[13:49] <crypted> stick w/ old school
[13:49] <APoulos> this is so far what I've found out: --exclude $HOME/Videos/ /home/alex /media/backup/12.04-Precise-backup_4.23.2012/
[13:49] <APoulos> doesnt work
[13:49] <APoulos> still makes the folder
[13:49] <auronandace> crypted: what apps do you require that are 32bit only?
[13:49] <Oer> crypted, since 11.10 64 bit is multi-arch.
[13:49] <APoulos> so does /home/alex/Videos/ - and ~/Videos/
[13:49] <crypted> good to know about multi-arch.  auronandace: none that i am aware of anymore
[13:50] <APoulos> can someone PULLLLEEEEZZZEEE help me with this?
[13:50] <crypted> the issue would be converting w/o losing settings and data at this point.
[13:50] <crypted> all else is good to go from my reading
[13:50] <blackbear008> - APoulos, , what's your problem?
[13:51] <zykotick9> crypted: a conversion of 32bit to 64bit seems insane to me... can i ask, how much RAM do you have?
[13:51] <APoulos> blackbear008, trying to run rsync to dupe my home directory w/ the exception of my videos folder
[13:51] <crypted> 4-8GB
[13:51] <mm_> i haven't been on IRC in about 20 years, so... how do you want me to send this screenshot?  it's a png btw.
[13:51] <zykotick9> !paste | mm_
[13:52] <sambagirl> 10.10 support has been terminated????
[13:52] <APoulos> blackbear008, this is what I've been able to do: rsync --progress -rEog --exclude $HOME/Videos/ /home/alex /media/backup/12.04-Precise-backup_4.23.2012/
[13:52] <auronandace> crypted: just install the 64bit version, backup what you need to keep (config files)
[13:52] <mm_> thanks.
[13:52] <compdoc> sambagirl, end of life?
[13:52] <crypted> if that'll work, okay.
[13:52] <auronandace> sambagirl: yes
[13:52] <crypted> what just /etc/ and /home/?
[13:52] <sambagirl> something like that but it is still alive on my laptop!
[13:52] <auronandace> !10.10 | sambagirl
[13:52] <crypted> can i do a dpkg dump or anything for easy restore?
[13:53] <APoulos> blackbear008, ive tried the other ones like /home/alex/Videos/ and ~/Videos/
[13:53] <compdoc> sambagirl, only the LTS versions are supported for 3 years
[13:53] <sambagirl> oh ok
[13:53] <auronandace> crypted: what settings do you need to keep? most configs are under the hidden directories under /home/
[13:53] <somethinginteres> does anyone know the package for language checking in LibreOffice for Australian English?
[13:53] <compdoc> the rest get upgraded away
[13:54] <auronandace> compdoc: starting with 12.04 support is 5 years
[13:54] <sambagirl> well compdoc my issue is that these later versions are so different and i don't nor do any of the users here find them friendly at all.  the interfaces are not friendly at all. everyone is used to true functionality and ease of use. no drop down menu options,  this is terrible.
[13:54] <crypted> i know where the config files are that we need.  my next issue is dpkg.  i assume that i can dump and restore the oldl ist upon reinstalling w/ x64?
[13:55] <fidel_> somethinginteres: guess the question isnt really ubuntu-specific - maybe ask in the #libre channel
[13:55] <mm_> ok.  it's up there.  http://imagebin.org/209356
[13:55] <ruman> any one can help to make partition  image  of xubunto, to install other machines...without installation....
[13:55] <sambagirl> it would be so pleasant if ubuntu devs created a classic view option...maybe they have, but i can't locate it.  the new interface is so unfriendly.
[13:55] <somethinginteres> fidel_: sorry mate, was directed here from #libreoffice b/c they couldn't work it out.
[13:55] <Oer> crypted > dpkg –get-selections
[13:55] <crypted> roger that
[13:56] <crypted> i guess a case of beer and toying around is in order now.
[13:56] <Oer> crypted but is it wise, to convert that to 64 bit?
[13:56] <compdoc> sambagirl, many ppl feel that way, but you can get used to it. They are still improving Unity, so it might get better
[13:56] <astrolite> sambagirl: if you want something similar to old gnome as in 10.x, try xfce window manager
[13:56] <crypted> Oer: uncertain.
[13:56] <crypted> thanks @ all.
[13:56] <Oer> have fun
[13:56] <crypted> oh i doubt i will but hey its worth trying
[13:56] <crypted> :D
[13:57] <crypted> can always learn from my upcoming mistakes.
[13:57] <mubeen> hello everyone..
[13:57] <auronandace> crypted: a fresh install is always easier
[13:57] <mm_> HI!!
[13:58] <sambagirl> that is why we stay at 10.10 because it's functional.  it's like going to the cpanel in windows xp and you can modify it to classic view.  just like windows 7 and 8 are so aweful so is vista, because users wants and needs and desires are ignored and the powers that be want to manipulate and force feed us stuff we dont like and yet expect us not to speak up about it?
[13:58] <auronandace> sambagirl: can't live without gnome2 eh?
[13:58] <compdoc> sambagirl, it will still run, but I guess they no longer update it
[13:58] <Baribal> Hi. I just installed 12.04 from scratch and wanted to configure its appearance, but the ccsm package seems to have vanished. Where did it go?
[13:58] <mubeen> Can anyone help me regarding a installation of Ncomputing Software?
[13:58] <ruman> any one can help me make partition image of ubuntu..
[13:58] <sambagirl> i understand. i mean i used hoary as my first ubuntu. i still have boxes of cd's they sent.
[13:59] <usb-help> hi, I suspect a USB flash drive I bought recently has been oversized to 64GB, is there a way to check that on ubuntu 10.04 LTS?
[13:59] <c0rnel> ruman, clonezilla?
[13:59] <MrUnagi> mini.iso i see no activity now, how do i know if its installing
[14:00] <sambagirl> it's just my feeling that ubuntu team should stick with what works and not go chasing.
[14:00] <ruman> c0rnel,please let me know is it free
[14:01] <c0rnel> ruman, yes it is free
[14:01] <sambagirl> clonezilla is awesome
[14:01] <auronandace> sambagirl: just so you know ubuntu doesn't support gnome2 anymore because the creators of gnome2 has stopped support
[14:01] <poo> how can i remove a java package that didnt finish installing
[14:02] <poo> says it cant find archive
[14:02] <ruman> ok thanks to both of u..
[14:02] <sambagirl> ohh i didnt know that.
[14:02] <auronandace> !gnome2
[14:02] <sambagirl> well there are others xfce and others
[14:02] <sambagirl> kde is another one
[14:02] <Nach0z> LXDE > xfce :P
[14:02] <sambagirl> i think
[14:02] <Baribal> Also, I've installed and started Eclipse, but it appears neither in the dock nor the task switcher, so once minimized, I seem to be unable to unminimize the window. What happened there?
[14:03] <auronandace> sambagirl: i've never liked gnome2 anyway and have used xfce since 4.2
[14:03] <mubeen> NComputing Linux Terminal Server
[14:03] <mubeen> vSpace Terminal Server
[14:03] <mubeen> This package provides all the necessary drivers and programs to use NComputing's X Series expansion card, L Series and U Series terminals.
[14:03] <MrUnagi> seems impossible to install ubuntu in a virtual machine for me… =/
[14:04] <sambagirl> ok here is a simple question. if i install the latest version of ubuntu will there be the menu options at the top panel?
[14:04] <jasonmsp> hey all.  easy question here but I can't seem to find it in the man pages or on google.  I have an alias cp -i setup and I want to overide the -i from the command line.  -f doesn't seem to be working and I don't see clobber for cp?
[14:04] <mm_> the top panel may not be at the top lol
[14:04] <auronandace> sambagirl: i don't use unity or gnome3 so i can't tell you
[14:04] <sambagirl> i see
[14:04] <sambagirl> i mean like applications places system
[14:04] <auronandace> sambagirl: i stick to xfce, simple and functional
[14:05] <sambagirl> ok
[14:05] <mubeen> "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libswscale0" can u solve this?
[14:06] <sambagirl> i;ll just download the latest and put it into a vm and see if it has acceptable accessibility thanks.
[14:07] <mehran> Hi I'm upgrading from ubuntu 10.04 to ubuntu 12.04 beta using update-manager
[14:07] <auronandace> sambagirl: i'm planning to give unity a try properly when 12.04 comes out, but i expect i'll come back to xfce
[14:07] <mm_> mubeen:  This is the video scaling library from the ffmpeg project. This package contains a Debian-specific version of the libswscale shared object that should only be used by Debian packages.
[14:08] <usb-help> any help on my usb problem would be appreciated, thanks
[14:09] <mubeen> How can I use the Ncomputing Software in Linux Mint 12?
[14:10] <aLBa^> how large do you believe it is usb-help ?
[14:10] <codelurker> how do you add workspaces and change to an all horizontal workspace layout in 12.04? [no one answering in ubuntu+1]
[14:10] <auronandace> !mint | mubee
[14:11] <niteria> what's the best way to help ubuntu release a new version of package?
[14:12] <niteria> there's a package that is slightly outdated
[14:13] <auronandace> !latest | niteria
[14:13] <mm_> codelurker, right click the panel, choose panel, choose panel preferences.  you can add workspaces there.
[14:14] <ZeRoKoL> e
 I think the disk is supposed to be about 8GB, but it was advertised at 64GB and thats how much is shown in properties.
[14:15] <mm_> any ideas how to fix the rogue panel across my desktop?
[14:16] <codelurker> right clicking panel doesn't bring up anything :(
[14:16] <sambagirl> auronandace let me look at ti first and see if it works for me brb
[14:16] <aLBa^> so you tried putting something on that was less than 8gb and then added a gb extra? thats the only test there is, I suppose
[14:16] <Sidewinder> usb-help, 64G to 8G, now, that's more than a significant jump.
[14:17] <mm_> code:  restart??
 I can't even copy a few megabytes to it, because its extremely slow, at 10 to 50kb/s.
[14:19] <usb-help> I've even tried formatting the disk, which always fails.
[14:19] <magma> hi
[14:20] <magma> how can I check the last 3 logins on my system?
[14:20] <magma> the date and time
[14:20] <jrharshath> @magma use "finger"
[14:20] <codelurker> mm_: system is fine - fresh install of 12.04/patched.  just cant find workspace options anywhere
[14:20] <escott> !precise | codelurker
[14:20] <magma> jrharshath, it just says the last
[14:21] <codelurker> escott: I know, but no answers in ubuntu+1
[14:23] <jrharshath> try "last"
[14:25] <blackbear008> ?
[14:26] <SirSpam> How do I use an absolute DNS search path so Linux doesn't automatically tack on a.domain.com to certain queries?
[14:28] <SirSpam> I've tried adding "search ." to my /etc/resolv.conf but that didn't work and "host localhost" kept trying to resolve "localhost.."
[14:28] <soreau> SirSpam: What do you have set for nameserver? try an ip like <IP_ADDRESS>?
[14:30] <SirSpam> I'm using "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" When I tried that <IP_ADDRESS>, everything broke down. Linux apparently ignored my /etc/hosts file so resolving localhost didn't work which meant my entire mail server broke down.
[14:34] <mm_> is it possible to reinstall xfce-4 panel to fix what's wrong with the panel through the middle of my desktop?
[14:35] <auronandace> mm_: through the middle?
[14:36] <mm_> yes.  booted up this morning and the panel that is set to be horizonal at the top, is right through the middle of my desktop.
[14:36] <auronandace> mm_: what does the panel settings show?
[14:36] <mm_> it has been suggested that i may have d/l'd something that is interferring with it.
[14:36] <mm_> the panel setting show where i left them when i logged off last night.
[14:37] <auronandace> mm_: can you unlock and move the panel?
[14:37] <mm_> which was horizontal, at the top.  i have since moved it over to vertical to get it out of the way.
[14:37] <mm_> i've tried :(
[14:37] <mm_> there's a screen cap though.  if'n you wanna see
[14:37] <auronandace> mm_: yay, screenshot
[14:38] <mm_> hang on, i might have to take another.   can i have the url again?
[14:39] <auronandace> mm_: imagebin.org
[14:39] <mm_> tnx
[14:40] <auronandace> mm_: what was it you downloaded that someone suggested affect it?
[14:42] <mm_> i just installed xubuntu 2 daze ago, i've been tweeking ever since...
[14:42] <sambagirl> ok i installed 12.04 and it looks very pretty however i don't see those options at the top meaning applications places system is there anyway i can add that to the desktop panel?
[14:42] <beto> nas
[14:42] <auronandace> mm_: tweaking how?
[14:42] <sambagirl> the system layout reminds me of osx :D
[14:43] <mm_> auronandance:  http://imagebin.org/209356
[14:44] <mm_> tried a couple different audio players, d/l'd vlc, a few games, messed with browers, settled on iron
[14:44] <auronandace> mm_: grab it at the left and drag it to the top
[14:44] <auronandace> mm_: that panel isn't locked
[14:45] <mm_> no, i unlocked it to try to move it.
[14:45] <mm_> everytime i tried the drag/drop it "dropped" a blue folder, but nothing ever changed.
[14:45] <delinquentme> hey all .. is there a way for me to "save state" in Gedit?
[14:45] <delinquentme> say I've got a number of files I want to edit open
[14:45] <mm_> that worked though.  probably just to make me look like a retard lol  i've locked it at the top again.
[14:46] <delinquentme> and I'd love to open them all back up at once
[14:46] <delinquentme> is this possible?
[14:46] <auronandace> mm_: you got two screens?
[14:46] <mm_> at the moment.  i've been reading up on extended desktop, but i haven't tried anything yet.
[14:47] <mm_> laptop and either a monitor or the 42" vizio, vga cable.
[14:47] <fishcooker> which one is better and stable for desktop of developing matter; ubuntu 11.04 or 11.10 ?
[14:47] <Thunder_bolt> exit
[14:47] <Thunder_bolt> #exit
[14:47] <area51pilot> sambagirl: hit the Win key
[14:47] <fishcooker> don't say 12.04.. it is in beta release now
[14:48] <mm_> my resolution is all screwy too.  the laptop screen is too long and i'm using a monitor at the moment, and the display is too short.  then the panel went rogue.
[14:48] <area51pilot> fishcooker ... for a few more hours  :P
[14:48] <area51pilot> nmnd
[14:48] <c_smith> !time UTC-8
[14:49] <area51pilot> ... 2 days and a few hrs :P
[14:49] <mm_> xbuntu recognizes the type of laptop and the monitor/tv.  not sure what's going on there.  probably a driver issue.  a driver that's long been out of circulation i'm guessing.
[14:49] <auronandace> fishcooker: 11.04 will reach eol before 11.10
[14:49] <neurotech> test
[14:49] <auronandace> fishcooker: also 12.04 will be released thursday
[14:49] <neurotech> test
[14:49] <neurotech> sorry one more
[14:49] <fishcooker> counting down area51pilot
[14:49] <auronandace> !test | neurotech
[14:49] <c_smith> neurotech, what's with the tests?
[14:49] <neurotech> sorry all done :D
[14:50] <fishcooker> that's cool auronandace.. i've tried it
[14:50] <c_smith> neurotech, Just  curious, but what are you testing?
[14:50] <fishcooker> PP  c_smith
[14:50] <fishcooker> :p
[14:50] <area51pilot> fishcooker ... kinda the release is 2 days after my bday. Benn running beta for a few months though  ;)
[14:51] <neurotech> my "own color" text
[14:51] <auronandace> neurotech: next time use #test
[14:51] <sliptonic> exit
[14:51] <neurotech>  cheerz
[14:52] <kulhas> hello, I have apache running on port 80 and tomcat 8080, outside I can only acess to port 80 I need to have apache serving php and tomcat serving a war.  I try this http://dominikdorn.com/2010/04/tomcat-glassfish-jetty-port-80-iptables-nat/ but its not working.
[14:52] <area51pilot> join ubuntu+1
[14:56] <minimec_> kulhas: 'sudo ufw allow 8080' could work --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW
[14:57] <trevjs> Ubuntu doesn't recognize the touchpad on my laptop, this is probably a kernel problem.  Is there a way I can disable the touchpad?
[14:59] <MarcN> anyone having problems with synergy? synergyc on Precise segfaults on keyboard input.  I'm running synergys on Oneiric. 100% of the time.
[14:59] <MarcN> mouse input works fine...
[15:02] <bkc_> MarcN: did you have any problems with synergyc on Oneiric?
[15:02] <MarcN> bkc_: last I used synergy it was between two Oneiric.  Since them I've upgraded the client to precise. turning on debug isn't helpful.
[15:03] <bkc_> MarcN: try swaping them, so you runt the server on the client and w.w.
[15:04] <khmerog> hii
[15:05] <usb-help> does 12.04 have support for exfat?
[15:05] <khmerog> when i first installed ubuntu i had the option to change how my window (exit, minimize, full screen) look like
[15:05] <khmerog> and to change from ubuntu unity or ubunutu classic
[15:05] <khmerog> now i dont have that option..how come?
[15:05] <LambdaDusk> anyone knowing the codecs necessary to get the audio from an mkv video... it is encoded with ac3, it seems
[15:06] <bkc_> khmerog: system settings?
[15:06] <bkc_> LambdaDusk: what player are you using?
[15:07] <LambdaDusk> bkc_: I am using ffmpeg for the task
[15:07] <LambdaDusk> bkc_: They play fine in vlc and totem
[15:07] <bkc_> so, you want to extract the ac3-stream from a mkv-file?
[15:08] <LambdaDusk> bkc_: And make it an mp3 for my player
[15:08] <LambdaDusk> or ogg, I am not choosy
[15:09] <LambdaDusk> "ffmpeg -i $f -f mp3 -y -ab 192000 -vn audio/`basename $f .mkv`.mp3" is the command I used
[15:09] <bkc_> you can use mkvextract to extract the ac3-stream :)
[15:09] <LambdaDusk> oh
[15:09] <khmerog> bkc_ i checked every settings and it is not there anymore
[15:09] <khmerog> bkc_ are u using ubuntu unity UI or the classic UI?
[15:10] <bkc_> khmerog: kde
[15:10] <bkc_> LambdaDusk: then use ffmpeg to convert from ac3 to ogg/mp3
[15:10] <khmerog> hmm can u make your own taskbar/panes?
[15:10] <tero> um, should a modern ubuntu work on a really old netbook?(atom 1.6 ghz 1gb ram) ?
[15:10] <beto> no really
[15:11] <beto> is to slow
[15:11] <bkc_> no it's not :/
[15:11] <auronandace> !lubuntu | tero
[15:12] <bkc_> beto: I run kubuntu on 900MHz, 2GB ram... works just fine :)
[15:13] <afuentes> is there a way to disable the countdown window on acpi shutdown signal?
[15:13] <belgianguy> is there a dutch ubuntu chan?
[15:13] <belgianguy> for dutch lang corrections
[15:13] <auronandace> !dutch
[15:13] <belgianguy> thx
[15:15] <LambdaDusk> bkc_: Sorry, that did not work. The codec is the problem, not the container: "Error while opening encoder for output stream #0.0 - maybe incorrect parameters such as bit_rate, rate, width or height"
[15:16] <bkc_> LambdaDusk: have you specified that you're reading from ac3?
[15:16] <LambdaDusk> bkc_: Uh, no... how?
[15:17] <bkc_> ffmpeg -i input_filename.mpg -f avi -vcodec copy -acodec libmp3lame -ar 44100 -ab 128k -ac 2 file_output.avi
[15:17] <bkc_> wait
[15:17] <bkc_> wrong line ^^
[15:17]  * LambdaDusk waits
[15:18] <bkc_> ffmpeg -i audio.ac3 -acodec libmp3lame audio.mp3
[15:18] <bkc_> ffmpeg -i audio.ac3 -acodec libvorbis audio.ogg
[15:18] <bkc_> thar
[15:18] <dik> |ciao
[15:18] <dik> |list
[15:19] <Sidewinder> At least the nick is appropriate.
[15:19] <LambdaDusk> bkc_: Nope still: "Error while opening encoder for output stream #0.0 - maybe incorrect parameters such as bit_rate, rate, width or height"
[15:20] <auronandace> what is with all these people doing !list ?
[15:20] <bkc_> auronandace: they think it's a dc-hub ^^
[15:20] <auronandace> bkc_: dc-hub?
[15:21] <bkc_> LambdaDusk: have you successfully extracted the ac3-stream from the mkv?
[15:21] <LambdaDusk> yes
[15:21] <LambdaDusk> it plays in totem and rhythmbox
[15:21] <LambdaDusk> and correctly
[15:21] <bkc_> auronandace: old way of sharing warez :/
[15:21] <auronandace> bkc_: oh, thanks for the info
[15:22] <bkc_> dik: this isn't a dc-hub :/
[15:24] <Sidewinder> !list
[15:26] <MrUnagi> ubuntu minimal takes forever to install =/
[15:29] <iceroot> MrUnagi: bad connection?
[15:31] <J11> somehow when a user logs in on a machine the internet won't work, until I su to myself in a terminal and use ifconfig eth0 up and dhclient eth0. But I rememebr setting the share this connection with other users in the network management app
[15:31] <MrUnagi> connection?
[15:31] <bkc_> MrUnagi: internet-connection
[15:32] <MrUnagi> oh……doubtful, but i don't know…..because theres nothing on screen
[15:32] <bkc_> MrUnagi: how old is the computer?
[15:32] <MrUnagi> its purple with a white line at the bottom
[15:32] <MrUnagi> couple of years i suppose
[15:32] <MrUnagi> I'm not near it so i don't really know
[15:33] <MrUnagi> or at least the host is……I'm currently installing into vm
[15:33] <bkc_> ooh... vm's are usually not that fast :/
[15:34] <MrUnagi> yea but……
[15:34] <MrUnagi> its a minimal install lol
[15:35] <afuentes> is there a way to disable the countdown window on acpi shutdown signal?
[15:35] <MrUnagi> afuentes sudo shutdown -h now?
[15:35] <iceroot> MrUnagi: minimal install = everything downloaeded from the net
[15:36] <MrUnagi> iceroot: with no progress bar?
[15:36] <J11> strange I only see the loopback in /etc/network/interfaces. Is the way the network manager works different?
[15:36] <afuentes> MrUnagi, its a virtual machine, i can send ubuntu an acpi shutdown signal, but it shows an anoying 60 secs message :/
[15:36] <MrUnagi> J11: sounds right
[15:36] <iceroot> MrUnagi: there is a progress bar if something is happening
[15:36] <MrUnagi> not for me
[15:36] <iceroot> MrUnagi: again, bad connection?
[15:37] <MrUnagi> for a progress bar?
[15:37] <iceroot> MrUnagi: what is the speed of your connection?
[15:37] <MrUnagi> speediest = 3mbps down
[15:37] <MrUnagi> speedtest
[15:37] <iceroot> MrUnagi: that is slow for a netinstall with a complete desktop
[15:37] <jwtiyar> i cant install apache2 , give this http://paste.ubuntu.com/942678/
[15:37] <MrUnagi> whaaaat?
[15:37] <iceroot> MrUnagi: guess it will take 1-2 hours until everything is downloaded
[15:37] <bkc_> iceroot: minimal install...
[15:37] <MrUnagi> thats MB download not line speed
[15:38] <iceroot> bkc_: minimal install is a medium and does not mean only shell
[15:38] <iceroot> bkc_: you can select there kde, gnome, unity and so on
[15:38] <jwtiyar> i cant install apache2 , give this http://paste.ubuntu.com/942678/
[15:38] <iceroot> MrUnagi: that is mbit/s
[15:39] <MrUnagi> i didn't select any of those
[15:39] <MrUnagi> no….its MBs
[15:39] <iceroot> jwtiyar: did you run "sudo apt-get update" first?
[15:39] <iceroot> MrUnagi: then say 3MByte/s
[15:39] <sambagirl> does compiz work in 12.04?
[15:39] <iceroot> sambagirl: yes, #ubuntu+1
[15:40] <sambagirl> how can i add like a different desktop to 12.04? is it possible to add potions to the panels?
[15:40] <iceroot> MrUnagi: maybe you can switch to tty2 (ctrl + alt + f2) and you can do some debug on top/ps
[15:40] <iceroot> sambagirl: 12.04 is not supported here, please join #ubuntu+1
[15:40] <sambagirl> well 10.10 isnt supported...so what is supported in here?
[15:40] <iceroot> sambagirl: stable releases which are not EOL
[15:41] <iceroot> sambagirl: 8.04 server, 10.04, 11.04, 11.10
[15:45] <nannes> http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2168086/canonical-linux-kernel
[15:45] <nannes> why? why??? why this kind of behavior???
[15:46] <sipior> nannes: this is not the place to vent.
[15:46] <iceroot> nannes: i dont see a problem with that and its off topic here
[15:46] <nannes> which is the right place
[15:46] <sipior> nannes: #ubuntu-offtopic, or /dev/null.
[15:46] <nannes> lol I'll try the first
[15:47] <pietro10> Hi. I have a .deb for libpng 1.5 that I need to install in order to use some software. How do I install it over the system libpng 1.2? Thanks.
[15:48] <iceroot> pietro10: i dont know if it is a good idea
[15:49] <iceroot> pietro10: but the method is "sudo dpkg -i file.deb"
[15:49] <pietro10> ok
[15:50] <iceroot> pietro10: but you can get dependency issues
[15:50] <pietro10> well if it's not a good idea to install the one (from debian.org), wha tis the best way to install libpng 1.5 on ubuntu?
[15:50] <iceroot> pietro10: 1. never mix packages from debian and ubuntu. ubuntu is not debian
[15:51] <iceroot> !info libpng3
[15:51] <pietro10> right, though I'm not getting any response for libpng 1.5 ubuntu on google
[15:51] <pietro10> why is ubuntu still on 1.2
[15:51] <iceroot> pietro10: what debian-release has 1.5?
[15:52] <pietro10> ...experimental
[15:52] <pietro10> that probalby explains it
[15:52] <J11> when do connections set in the network manager become loaded?
[15:53] <luffha> hi all
[15:53] <iceroot> pietro10: and which software needs 1.5?
[15:53] <luffha> any idea on this, guys? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10283411/php-broken-after-upgrading-to-php-5-4
[15:54] <iceroot> luffha: #ubuntu+1
[15:54] <iceroot> !info php5 precise
[15:54] <pietro10> iceroot: a specialized image converter being written by someone else I'mw aiting for them to get on IRC to ask them about it
[15:55] <iceroot> pietro10: i dont think that software will have much fun because all the big distros are not using 1.5 in stable releases in the next time
[15:55] <benaiah> a
[15:55] <iceroot> luffha: and why the hell are you ising lucid ppa packages on precise
[15:56] <iceroot> luffha: there is only one thing that can happen on such tasks, broken dependencies
[15:56] <benaiah> fuck isnt there anything so geeky
[15:56] <oCean> benaiah: control your language here, please
[15:56] <bazhang> benaiah, no cursing here
[15:56] <iceroot> !language | benaiah
[15:57] <benaiah> SUCK MY DICK AND THEN USE A SHARP METAL DILDO UP YOUR ASS
[16:04] <set_killer> hi guis, i just tryed to upgrade to 12.04 and then i got this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python2.7/+bug/986374
[16:04] <RexHaviK> i am seeing a one minute diff between two machines, this one gets its time from a time server, the other may not, what would i need to run as root that would keep it on internet time? ntpd?
[16:05] <set_killer> should I 'suDO' apt-get install -o APT::Force-LoopBreak=1 python
[16:05] <set_killer> ????
[16:05] <oCean> set_killer: Precise/12.04 is not yet released (now beta). Please /join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion
[16:06] <sanguisdex> where can I read up in Turing off password authentication for ssh connections?
[16:06] <set_killer> thanks oCean :]
[16:07] <yzhd> When I put the screen on my laptop, it wont suspend + the suspend option is missing in settings. Any fix for this? I couldn't find any fix for it on the web.. + suspend worked the first two weeks after installing ubuntu 11.10. Any help would be appreciate.
[16:07] <yeats> sanguisdex: this is probably a good place to start: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[16:08] <AdvoWork> anyone know how to use vim with regular expressions? trying to run foo(.*bar)@! somehow :S
[16:08] <Graeleight> i'm trying to install the package boot-repair but it seems to be missing. I added the repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair and updated apt-get but the package is still not found. Are there any other easy ways to fix my fubared GRUB2 ?
[16:09] <f11f12> nualtilus keeps opening my usb stick when I pug it in, although I've got a custom rule in /etc/udev/rules.d/ which starts with 90-...
[16:10] <pietro10> AdvoWork: #vim ?
[16:10] <yzhd> When I put the screen on my laptop, it wont suspend + the suspend option is missing in settings. Any fix for this? I couldn't find any fix for it on the web.. + suspend worked the first two weeks after installing ubuntu 11.10. Any help would be appreciate.
[16:10] <GaryDev> would this be the correct place to ask about apache2 on ubuntu 10 lts? :)
[16:12] <sanguisdex> yeats I have set PasswordAuthentication to no and both reloaded and restated ssh via service, but I am still able to loging with a password
[16:13] <sanguisdex> whater else do  I need to change?
[16:13] <J11> Should I just put eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces so I have internet on boot no matter which user logs in?
[16:14] <Baribal> Hi. I'm afraid that this is more of a rhetorical question, but anyways: Is there a cell phone on which Ubuntu can run natively?
[16:15] <bazhang> Baribal, try #ubuntu-phone  , as of now, thats a no
[16:15] <Haffe> Hi, I just installed Xubuntu 12.04, and I am having some problems. 1) I have a Radeon HD7750, I have installed fglrx from jockey-gtk, yet I get an AMD unsupported hardware watermark. 2) I have an audigy 2, but I have no sound. I try to run alsamixer to unmute everything, but alsa gives me an error that mixer can't be opened.
[16:15] <J11> or would that give problems with the network manager? Should I put the ifupdown into managed=true in network manger's config?
[16:15] <bazhang> Haffe, #ubuntu+1 for that
[16:20] <WeThePeople> does anybody know of a anonymous ftp software or website?
[16:21] <GaryDev> Using 10 LTS, created a new VirtualHost file in apache2 following directions from https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/httpd.html .. directories created, new site enabled, apache restarted... but the new site when accessed, goes to the current default site. Any suggestions? (both the default site and new site had ServerName directive added)
[16:22] <EsoRottica> Hello, I'm looking for a bit of help. I've got a user profile which I cannot log into. It seems that after I enter my password it just flashes both of the screens then take me back to the login manager. I'm on the guest profile currently and dont know where to start.
[16:22] <Baribal> WeThePeople, you mean a server/service/website that anonymizes your connection? There are a few for-pay services out there; of course they'll then have your billing information.
[16:23] <Baribal> EsoRottica, maybe a look into /var/log/*dm/*.log would be a good start?
[16:23] <Baribal> (That'd be /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log for me)
[16:23] <yzhd> When I put the screen on my laptop, it wont suspend + the suspend option is missing in settings. Any fix for this? I couldn't find any fix for it on the web.. + suspend worked the first two weeks after installing ubuntu 11.10. Any help would be appreciate.
[16:24] <Ping86> How I can sniff the traffic on a port on my local machine?
[16:24] <EsoRottica> Baribal, Permission Denied, will i need to Ctrl+alt+f1, login, view?
[16:27] <Baribal> EsoRottica, right, you need superuser rights... Yes, if you can handle the old consoles, go for it. :)
[16:27] <GaryDev> guess I will try asking later..
[16:27] <EsoRottica> Baribal, Not entirely... I'm creating a new admin account from which to work from :)
[16:27] <EsoRottica> back soon.
[16:27] <Baribal> Even better. :)
[16:31] <jsebean> Hey all, How do I use date command to display a time in a certain timezone. I run: date +%r but it shows it in universal time?
[16:33] <trism> jsebean: it is right on the manpage, TZ='America/Los_Angeles' date
[16:33] <jsebean> trism: ??
[16:33] <Mkaysi> OR you might want to see tzwatch.
[16:33] <Pl3nar1us> hello all
[16:35] <trism> jsebean: man date; then look at the Examples section at the end
[16:35] <EsoRottica> Baribal, is it okay to clear this file, attempt to login check new messages?
[16:36] <matrixnyc> hello
[16:36] <LiNuX`sup> is 12 out of beta?
[16:36] <Walther> What is the name of the screenshot utility? My kb doesn't have printscr key and unity dash isn't working
[16:36] <Walther> i.e. how do I lauch the screenshot utility from cli?
[16:36] <EsoRottica> screenshot
[16:36] <trism> LiNuX`sup: not until the 26th
[16:37] <trism> Walther: gnome-screenshot by default
[16:37] <Haffe> Walther: scrot is one such utility.
[16:37] <mbeierl> How to I tell the resolver to use port 55 instead of port 53 for DNS lookups?  I need to modify /etc/resolv.conf, but how to specify the port for the nameserver there?
[16:40] <bepebe> hello, my scrolling seems to be very fast in all aspects of windows that can scroll. I have a tweak for Firefox that slows it down, but browsing folders, or other applications results in very erratic scrolling if the slightest move on the scroll wheel
[16:43] <Fishman12a> bepebe: Do you dual boot to and from Windows?
[16:43] <bepebe> no Fishman12a, but it has worked fine in Windows before
[16:43] <mcc> is there a way, in Ubuntu, to query the system and find out what version of a particular package I have installed?
[16:44] <mcc> like, libogg0. i want to know if the version i have approximately corresponds to 1.2.0 from the website or 1.2.1 or what
[16:44] <trism> mcc: apt-cache policy packagename;
[16:44] <Fishman12a> bepebe: I have a MS wireless mouse. What I have to do is unplug it and plug back in after booting from Win to Lin. Then it is ok.
[16:45] <dniMretsaM> mcc: I think this might do it: apt-cache showpkg <pkgname>
[16:45] <bepebe> Fishman12a, I will give that a try, but I only have Linux on this HDD
[16:45] <Fishman12a> bepebe: Good luck. It is the only thing that works for me
[16:45] <wylde> mcc: apt-cache policy <packagename>
[16:45] <bepebe> Fishman12a, that seems to of worked, but do I have to that at every boot?
[16:46] <bepebe> mine too is ms wireless one ...
[16:46] <Fishman12a> bepebe: Sorry to say 'probably'. I know I do and know of no solution except this way.
[16:46] <bepebe> Fishman12a, OK, thanks for your help.
[16:46] <Fishman12a> :)
[16:46] <bucaneiro> what is the name of a programming language that starts with N ?
[16:46] <robin_debspace> Hey there! Does anyone in here know about Ubuntu accessibility with Orca?
[16:47] <dniMretsaM> oh yeah, policy. not showpkg. my bad
[16:47] <EsoRottica> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_programming_languages#N
[16:48] <noobtack> hey guys, im having some trouble here, logs -> http://bit.ly/HWgsXU
[16:48] <aaas> anyone got a intel onboard g31 graphics working (with more resolutions than 3)?  It seems to default to the 'vesa' driver
[16:49] <noobtack> dammit, wrong link. http://pastie.org/3840068
[16:51] <robin_debspace> Basically, I need to install Ubuntu on a new system, but can't see the screen as I'm blind. So, what I need are the steps to navigate to the accessibility menu of the installer so that I can enable Orca.
[16:52] <EsoRottica> bepebe, Fishman12a, check out http://www.x.org/archive/X11R6.8.0/doc/mouse.4.html
[16:52] <EsoRottica> robin_debspace, are you trying with a livecd, and at the login screen?
[16:53] <Fishman12a> OK
[16:53] <trism> robin_debspace: this may help, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Accessibility#Starting_Orca_on_the_Live_CD
[16:54] <EsoRottica> robin_debspace, also, it would appear you may be able to push control and S at the same time
[16:54] <Maksim> Кто играет в кс
[16:54] <wylde> !ru | Maksim
[16:55] <Fishman12a> EsoRottica: Thanks. I bookmarked that and will try it soon :)
[16:55] <Maksim> who plays a mix to whom is necessary 1
[16:57] <robin_debspace> trism: Ah, thanks so much for digging this up for me! Also thanks to the others who helped right now… Yes, this probably is what I need. What I want to do is to install a fresh Ubuntu in a virtual machine, and I knew Ubuntu includes Orca as the screen reader and was wondering how to get this to work… But this should help a whole lot, thanks :-)
[17:00] <mcc> trism: that worked great, thanks so much!
[17:01] <cipols> titanic
[17:01] <mcc> dniMretsaM / wylde: thanks also
[17:02] <EsoRottica> Hello, I'm having some problems logging into one of my user profiles, The screen blanked during trying to change which monitors were plugged in and would not come back on. I powered down the computer. Now, once I login, it attempts to go intop ubuntu, but returns bck to to password prompt, other users work fine.
[17:02] <Baribal> EsoRottica, what did lightdm.log say?
[17:03] <EsoRottica> Baribal, I did not see anything that looked promising, Is it okay to blank the log and attempt logging in again?
[17:03] <Baribal> AFAIK yes, but blanking it should be unneccessary.
[17:04] <EsoRottica> Pastie?
[17:04] <EsoRottica> or pastebin*
[17:04] <Baribal> One pf those, sure.
[17:05] <EsoRottica> http://pastebin.com/m393diCc
[17:08] <gebbione> anyone uses openshot here? when i export a video i dont get the audio working
[17:08] <EsoRottica> Baribal, http://pastebin.com/m393diCc
[17:11] <EsoRottica> Baribal, Important to note, the username is blackbeard.
[17:11] <Baribal> EsoRottica, it looks like you get logged in, but then X is killed. That looks weird to me right now, I'll crosscheck with my own logs.
[17:11] <Baribal> EsoRottica, yes, I saw. :)
[17:12] <spillo> Caio
[17:12] <EsoRottica> Baribal, yeah it looked like there was an X config error, but I'm unaware of where single user config is?
[17:12] <spillo> Ciao! qualche assistenza italiana?
[17:12] <Baribal> spillo, #ubuntu-it AFAIK
[17:12] <bazhang> spillo, #ubuntu-it
[17:14] <JHON> someone is brazil?
[17:14] <EsoRottica> Jhon, #ubuntu-br
[17:14] <spillo> sono su ubuntu.it?
[17:15] <theadmin> spillo: /join #ubuntu-it
[17:15] <NeXuiZ> hay all
[17:15] <spillo> got it...can i try in english anyway?
[17:16] <NeXuiZ> есть русские?
[17:16] <EsoRottica> of course.
[17:16] <spillo> if yes, how? ther is pvt way?
[17:16] <EsoRottica> yes, /msg username
[17:16] <mneptok> !ru | NeXuiZ
[17:16] <Baribal> EsoRottica, I'm afraid I'm completely out of my waters.
[17:16] <NeXuiZ> спс
[17:16] <bepebe> Hello, I am trying to delete folders from a NTFS permission, and I am getting a "Unable to find or create wastebasket directory" error - http://i40.tinypic.com/2637evp.png can anybody help ?
[17:17] <Lint> you should not redirect people to national channels, at it is nearly impossible to receive help there
[17:17] <EsoRottica> Baribal, thats unfortunate ><
[17:17] <erase_> Hi, I'm having some trouble installing Rails 3.X on Ubuntu 12.04. Is there a sources.list line, or something like that since it only install 2.3?
[17:18] <theadmin> !precise | erase_
[17:18] <Pici> Lint: Many of our international channels are active. And anyway, we can't help here either if we don't speak their language.
[17:20] <thebilgerat> I'm trying to find where Ubuntu stores the global config files for vim.  Edits to the colorscheme in ~/.vimrc do not affect vim
[17:20] <thebilgerat> found debian-vim in the /usr/share/, but I don't see a colorscheme line in that file
[17:21] <thebilgerat> this is vim in a terminal only - my .vimrc does alter the color of vim-gnome
[17:22] <tscanlon> mornin if anyone has a free minute I'm having issues configuring smokeping + apache, i'm getting 403's for the images
[17:23] <theadmin> thebilgerat: /etc/vimrc I'd suppose?
[17:24] <theadmin> thebilgerat: Nevertheless, ~/.vimrc is supposed to override that
[17:24] <MrUnagi> how long is ubuntu suppose to hang at stopping system V run level compatibility
[17:24] <thebilgerat> one would think!  Is it possible that the terminal colorscheme is overriding vims?
[17:25] <jrib> thebilgerat: umm, are you using vim-tiny?
[17:25] <thebilgerat> let me check
[17:25] <autofsckk> hello, i want to make a local mirror so we can handle a lot of installs locally in a lan
[17:25] <theadmin> thebilgerat: Yeah, that actually may be a problem since that's what Ubuntu comes with, so make sure you're using a right package xD
[17:26] <thebilgerat> why yes it is vim tiny
[17:26] <thebilgerat> I take it my vim should not be tiny
[17:26] <jrib> thebilgerat: real vim user would not want that, no :)
[17:26] <jrib> thebilgerat: sudo update-alternatives --config vim
[17:27] <jrib> thebilgerat: (presumably you've installed the vim-gnome package already)
[17:27] <thebilgerat> yes
[17:27] <theadmin> autofsckk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors/Scripts -- some of these may be useful.
[17:27] <theadmin> jrib: What is vim-gnome? Is that how they called gvim? :/
[17:27] <theadmin> !info vim-gnome
[17:28] <theadmin> ...peculiar.
[17:28] <blitz__> Hi everyone I am interested in hosting a Ubuntu 12.04 launch party in my city(Chandigarh,India). Can someone tell me where I can get details on this ?
[17:28] <jrib> theadmin: sort of.  vim-gnome interacts with gnome nicely (don't ask me how; my guess is with session stuff), but there's also just vim-gtk.  Both provide a gui vim
[17:28] <Artemis3> autofsckk, i recommend this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/apt-cacher-ng-http-download-proxy-for-software-packages.html
[17:28] <thebilgerat> update-alternatives gives me vim.gnome in auto or manual or vim.basic in manual
[17:28] <jrib> erm
[17:28] <jrib> thebilgerat: sort of.  vim-gnome interacts with gnome nicely (don't ask me how; my guess is with session stuff), but there's also just vim-gtk.  Both provide a gui vim
[17:28] <jrib> thebilgerat: which one has the star next to it on the lfet?
[17:29] <EsoRottica_> ghost EsoRottica
[17:29] <autofsckk> theadmin Artemis3 ok thanks, ill take a look a those links
[17:29] <mneptok> blitz__: i suspect the people in #ubuntu-in would know better.
[17:29] <thebilgerat> vim.gnome auto mode
[17:29] <jrib> thebilgerat: hmm.  What made you say earlier that the vim you were using was tiny?
[17:29] <blitz__> ok I'll check it out.
[17:29] <thebilgerat> it is installed through synaptic
[17:29] <any-key> I'm running ubuntu on a beagleboard, and it's not guaranteed to have a network connection every time it boots...unfortunately when no NIC is connected everything hangs for two minutes on "waiting for network configuration"
[17:30] <any-key> is there any way to make it give up immediately rather than hanging?
[17:30] <jrib> thebilgerat: run "vim.gnome" in a terminal.  Does your colorscheme get applied properly then?
[17:30] <yellabs-r2> is there some one here who uses an asrock ion in combination with ubuntu ?
[17:30] <Somelauw> Hi, I am using ubuntu 11.10 and I was wondering how to install netbeans 7.1. The software centre only has version 6.9
[17:30] <EsoRottica_> how do i ghost? ><
[17:31] <yellabs-r2> something like this : Asrock Atom D525
[17:31] <bazhang> EsoRottica_, release, twice
[17:31] <thebilgerat> jrib: no its the same
[17:31] <theadmin> EsoRottica_: /msg nickserv ghost nick password
[17:32] <minimec> Somelauw: Just take the version on netbeans.org, make the file executable and run it... http://netbeans.org/downloads/index.html
[17:33] <tscanlon> mornin if anyone has a free minute I'm having issues configuring smokeping + apache, i'm getting 403's for the images
[17:33] <Somelauw> minimec: Won't that give problems when doing a dist-upgrade?
[17:33] <dniMretsaM> Somelauw: there is a PPA that has version 7.0.1. If you wan't 7.1.x, you'll probably have to compile
[17:33] <jrib> thebilgerat: how are you setting the colorscheem?
[17:33] <any-key> I suppose if I got rid of the interface configuration for eth0 it would work skip that part of the boot process, but then I'd lose the ability to use eth0 when I needed it
[17:33] <Gotestra> Hello anyone
[17:33] <Gotestra> Um
[17:33] <Gotestra> Newb here.
[17:33] <minimec> Somelauw: No, because it doesn't come as *.deb file.
[17:33] <Gotestra> Just starting out with Ubuntu, Linux in fact.
[17:34] <Gotestra> So, somebody care to help me out
[17:34] <thebilgerat> jrib: I set "colorscheme <foo>" in my local .vimrc
[17:34] <theadmin> Gotestra: 1) Don't use Enter as punctuation, 2) Ask your question right away, 3) General chat goes in #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:34] <dniMretsaM> It might be an executable, not source (no compiling). Not sure.
[17:34] <Gotestra> Ah
[17:34] <theadmin> Gotestra: Support is here, though.
[17:34] <Flurick> Hello
[17:34] <Gotestra> Thank you. I wont use Enter as a punctuation, call it a bad habit.
[17:34] <Gotestra> Anyway, I have a lot of questions.
[17:34] <jrib> thebilgerat: once you've started vim, does :colorscheme <foo>  change the colorscheme?
[17:34] <Gotestra> Firstly, why isn't right click working?
[17:35] <theadmin> Gotestra: Where exactly?
[17:35] <Gotestra> My laptop.
[17:35] <thebilgerat> jrib: it does
[17:35] <Gotestra> HP laptop
[17:35] <Gotestra> Synaptics Trackpad
[17:35] <theadmin> Gotestra: I mean uh, does it not work in all apps or specific areas?
[17:35] <jrib> thebilgerat: are you sure your vimrc does not change the color again later?
[17:35] <Gotestra> yeah.
[17:35] <minimec> Somelauw: I did that on my 11.10 install and upgraded to 12.04 just two days ago. No problem. You can even choose to install it locally in your /home/yourname directory. Installation suth 'sudo' will put it in /opt I think and make it acessable for all user.
[17:35] <theadmin> Gotestra: That wasn't a yes-no question
[17:36] <theadmin> !who | Gotestra
[17:36] <MrUnagi> i can't figure out why i can't get ubuntu installed and running in virtualbox
[17:36] <Somelauw> minimec: What version of netbeans does ubuntu 12.4 have?
[17:36] <Gotestra> Oh
[17:36] <celthunder> MrUnagi: whats the problem
[17:36] <Gotestra> Okay :)
[17:36] <Gotestra> theadmin
[17:36] <minimec> Somelauw: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=netbeans&suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names
[17:36] <thebilgerat> jrib: Actually, now I'm not sure
[17:36] <Gotestra> Its not working in any app.
[17:36] <MrUnagi> celthunder: desktop would crash, alternate installed but hangs on boot
[17:36] <theadmin> MrUnagi: Ubuntu's new "Unity" interface requires 3D acceleration, which requires Virtualbox guest additions. Install those from the CLI, then the desktop will run properly.
[17:37] <Gotestra> Its as if there is no right click button.
[17:37] <MrUnagi> theadmin: i don't even need desktop
[17:37] <theadmin> Gotestra: I see, sounds like something to do with the trackpad
[17:37] <celthunder> MrUnagi: where did it hang on boot
[17:37] <theadmin> MrUnagi: Try the minimal/server CD then?
[17:37] <thebilgerat> I have the same file open in gvim and vim.  if i set "colorscheme elflord" in both, they are NOT the same colorscheme
[17:37] <Gotestra> No, it works fine with Windows 7.
[17:37] <wylde> !synaptics | Gotestra: this link will have some information that should help
[17:37] <MrUnagi> theadmin was the minimal cd
[17:37] <MrUnagi> celthunder: stopping system v runlevel
[17:37] <Gotestra> Okay, I'm checking it.
[17:37] <any-key> thebilgerat: what are the differences?
[17:38] <jrib> thebilgerat: colorschemes set different colors depending on whether you're in vim or gvim
[17:38] <celthunder> MrUnagi: so you cant even get to init 1?
[17:38] <any-key> thebilgerat: keep in mind your terminal color pallette is not what gvim is using
[17:38] <theadmin> Gotestra: There might be restricted drivers available for your hardware, check it
[17:38] <MrUnagi> celthunder: just hangs
[17:38] <MrUnagi> no prompt
[17:38] <jrib> thebilgerat: I think a lot of the default vim colorschemes assume only something like 8 or 16 colors in terminal
[17:38] <any-key> if he's using non-default terminal colors it'll look different
[17:38] <Gotestra> theadmin, I would really appreciate it if you ellaborate more.
[17:38] <theadmin> Gotestra: (to do so, visit the "Hardware Drivers" in the main menu)
[17:39] <thebilgerat> aah!  that could be the issue.  Its just a niggling one, I sure appreciate your help
[17:39] <Gotestra> thadmin, in System Settings?
[17:39] <jrib> thebilgerat: use ":color" to check what colorscheme is loaded.  Also there are plenty of colorschemes that cater to 256-color terminals, check them out :)
[17:39] <theadmin> Gotestra: Is that where it is now? Haven't seen Ubuntu in a while. But, well, there's... Gah. Hit Ctrl-alt-T, type "gksudo jockey-gtk" in, hit Enter.
[17:39] <celthunder> MrUnagi: what do you have starting on that runlevel and ...if you cant get to init 1 then you probably have some odd hw or perhaps need to load or unload a kernel module.
[17:40] <wylde> Gotestra: yes.
[17:40] <thebilgerat> excellent - thanks jrib!  It may seem silly, but I get persnickety when I expect my code tags to be a certain color :)
[17:40] <MrUnagi> celthunder: i personally didn't put anything on any runlevel
[17:40] <Gotestra> Um, I see nothing of the sort there,
[17:40] <MrUnagi> celthunder: ill just try server
[17:40] <theadmin> celthunder: Ubuntu has no runlevel 1, infact Ubuntu has only 3 runlevels pretty much - 0, 6 and 1-5 which are all *identical*
[17:40] <Gotestra> I see an "Additional Drivers"
[17:40] <wylde> Gotestra: "Additional Drivers"
[17:41] <Gotestra> Yes.
[17:41] <theadmin> Gotestra: Yeah that'd be it.
[17:41] <Gotestra> Ok.
[17:41] <yooozy> hello folks
[17:41] <jrib> thebilgerat: if you like white text on gray background, I can recommend inkpot and zenburn.  Another popular one nowadays is solarized
[17:41] <Gotestra> I'm actually updating tons right no
[17:41] <Gotestra> *now
[17:41] <Gotestra> So, I'll try that later.
[17:41] <theadmin> Gotestra: That'd do, yeah, jockey won't work during upgrades
[17:41] <thebilgerat> I'll check those out
[17:41] <MrUnagi> is there anything i can type during installation to give me verbose
[17:41] <celthunder> theadmin: 0 shutdown 6 restart...1 should be single user 3 terminal 5 x....
[17:42] <yooozy> Q? /usr/bin takes too much time to load!!!! is that normal?
[17:42] <Somelauw> minimec: Thanks, I will install it using sudo
[17:42] <theadmin> celthunder: No, in Ubuntu: 0 = shutdown, 6 = reboot, 1-5 = full GUI desktop with everything loaded...
[17:42] <theadmin> !upstart | celthunder
[17:42] <auronandace> yooozy: define too much
[17:42] <minimec> Somelauw: I use it in combination with openjdk-6-jre. That is ubuntu default. The dummy package would be default-jre. Like that, the java environment is found without problems during install.
[17:43] <phibxr> yooozy, Load? In what way are you attempting to load a folder?
[17:43] <Somelauw> minimec: Will NetbeansProjects still work?
[17:43] <yooozy> auronandace, one min
[17:43] <Somelauw> Do all settings still work?
[17:43] <yooozy> no I'm browsing from another app
[17:43] <minimec> Somelauw: Well... I loaded/sync one via svn and it works...
[17:44] <Gotestra> Oh also
[17:44] <Gotestra> I got another problem.
[17:44] <Gotestra> I can't lower brightness
[17:44] <Gotestra> I know how to.
[17:44] <Gotestra> But the brightness remains the same.
[17:44] <oCean> Gotestra: bad habit kicking in again
[17:44] <Gotestra> Wow I really am bad at this.
[17:44] <phibxr> yooozy, /usr/bin will be a very, very crowded folder and will likely take a while to load in a file browser unless you have an SSD-drive. Even on my SSD-drive, it takes about 6 seconds to load and display all items.
[17:45] <learning_couchdb> hi guys, a question, somebody knows about a good example of howto implement 'runit'?
[17:45] <cesarstafe> hi guys, a question, somebody knows about a good example of howto implement 'runit'?
[17:45] <yooozy> phibxr, so it's normal thing
[17:46] <phibxr> yooozy, Unless you're experiencing some quite extraordinary delays, I'd say so. /usr/bin isn't really made for browsing. :)
[17:46] <cesarstafe> I didn't set up before 'runit' to enable in any place/distro/wathever *nix machine, So I wanna start reading some good example
[17:48] <yooozy> phibxr, thanks
[17:50] <theadmin> cesarstafe: It's in the repos: sudo apt-get install runit
[17:50] <Pici> cesarstafe: Is there a reason that you can't use upstart?
[17:51] <minimec> Somelauw: Just for information. You would also have the openjdk-7-jre option... http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=names&keywords=openjdk-7-jre
[17:53] <EsoRottica> Im in need of a bit of help please. While trying to change which monitors were enabled yesterday, I managed to get them to all blank.  After 30 seconds, the system did not revert the settings, I rebooted the computer. I am now no longer able to login to that user profile, others on the system still work. Can someone please help me to correct the problem?
[17:54] <sharp15> is there an eta for 12.04LTS?  i just want to know if its days, weeks, or months.
[17:54] <Pici> sharp15: April 26th, no set time.
[17:54] <phibxr> sharp15, so, three days. :P
[17:55] <theadmin> sharp15: Just so you know, the naming convention is YY.MM, so it can't be months, since it's already month 4.
[17:55] <sharp15> ok.  thank you.
[17:56] <wylde> !release | sharp15: Two pages for info here.
[17:56] <sharp15> theadmin: oh.  i didn't expect they had any relation to the outside world.  thought they were just version numbers.  good to know.
[17:56] <sharp15> wylde: thanks.
[17:57] <theadmin> sharp15: The release is every 6 months, which is why it always ends in .04 or .10
[17:57] <EsoRottica> Hello, is anyone albe to help with some Xorg configuration?
[17:58] <theadmin> EsoRottica: Much too vague
[17:58] <theadmin> EsoRottica: Details needed
[17:59] <sorta-noob> OK. I'm trying to get the unity launcher to take and keep a different color (without changing backgrounds) http://imagebin.org/209381 . I installed myunity and it can change it, but it changes back shortly after...
[17:59] <Somelauw> minimec: For some reason it got installed in local/netbeans, but I don't think that is on my PATH
[18:00] <EsoRottica> theadmin, i did post some details moments ago, I have a user profile I'm not able to login to after borking which screens were turned on. I managed to get them to all blank.  After 30 seconds, the system did not revert the settings, I rebooted the computer. I am now no longer able to login to that user profile, others on the system still work. Currently when i try loggin in, lightdm passes the credentials, but i get sent back to the
[18:00] <minimec> Somelauw: /usr/local/netbeans should be ok.
[18:00] <Somelauw> minimec: It doesn't open when I type netbeans in a terminal.
[18:01] <minimec> Somelauw: /usr/local is in PATH
[18:02] <theadmin> minimec: /usr/local wouldn't be in $PATH, that's abnormal. /usr/local/bin on the other hand would.
[18:02] <minimec> theadmin: You're right ;)
[18:03] <Somelauw> What is the recommended way in ubuntu to get the netbeans executable on the PATH?
[18:04] <theadmin> Somelauw: I say - sudo ln -s /path/to/netbeans /usr/local/bin/netbeans
[18:04] <Somelauw> theadmin: Okay, thanks
[18:05] <Somelauw> minimec: Thanks, as well
[18:05] <ezoe> Is it safe to purge OpenJDK? I mean remove OpenJDK and all software depends on OpenJDK.
[18:05] <luna> hello everybody. I have installed ubuntu 12.04. I cannot find hibertane button. Can anyone help me, please?
[18:05] <bkc_> luna: 12.04 support is in #ubuntu+1 :)
[18:06] <ezoe> I want to make sure that ubuntu works without Java runtime.
[18:06] <bkc_> ezoe: which programs depends on java?
[18:06] <Artemis3> !beta | luna
[18:06] <theadmin> ezoe: It does. LibreOffice will break though.
[18:06] <luna> bkc_: tk u
[18:07] <ezoe> I can live without LibreOffice, But I don't want to disable some GUI system setting tools if there is any.
[18:07] <theadmin> ezoe: Nah, the only Java-based soft that comes with ubuntu is LO if I recall right.
[18:07] <bkc_> ezoe: If you're using gnome all settings-tools are build with gtk :)
[18:08] <bkc_> for kde it's Qt
[18:08] <auronandace> theadmin: there isn't much left in libreoffice that depends on java
[18:08] <ezoe> hmm. that's good to know. I'll consider removing OpenJDK when 12.04 released. and, Mono too.
[18:08] <Lint> libreoffice works mostly fine without java
[18:08] <theadmin> auronandace: Oh is that so? Haven't checked in a while, last I tried it threw like 30 warnings at me before starting, EVERY time
[18:08] <ezoe> Really?
[18:08] <Lint> only base and some most stupid expansions like zemberek need it
[18:09] <bkc_> does anyone know where too find a list of the things LO depends on java?
[18:09] <ezoe> I thought LibreOffice is a successor of OpenOffice and it was written in Java.
[18:09] <auronandace> ezoe: not fully no
[18:09] <bkc_> ezoe: it's a re-written fork/copy of OOo, not a successor
[18:09] <Gotestra> Problem here. My brightness is not going down.
[18:09] <Gotestra> Help.
[18:09] <ezoe> apt-cache rdepnds shows me many libreoffice related components depends on openjre.
[18:11] <Lint> ezoe, that is stupidity of maintainers.
[18:11] <Lint> if that troubles you, install the real libreoffice from its homepage
[18:12] <ezoe> well, I don't use libreoffice right now. so I can bare without it.
[18:12] <theadmin> Be right back.
[18:12] <minimec> Gotestra: what kind of GPU? For intel, this might help http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=names&keywords=openjdk-7-jre
[18:12] <minimec> Gotestra: sorry ;) http://www.circuidipity.com/daniel.2011-04-05.intel_backlight_grub.html
[18:13] <Gotestra> Um
[18:13] <Gotestra> Newbie question:
[18:13] <Gotestra> How do I use those?
[18:14] <minimec> Gotestra: Those what?
[18:14] <Gotestra> Packages.
[18:14] <Gotestra> I started used Ubuntu barely 6 hours ago.
[18:14] <ezoe> hmm
[18:15] <LmAt> What is the best text-based e-mail client?
[18:15] <Pici> LmAt: mutt or pine
[18:15] <LmAt> Pici: THanks!
[18:15] <Pici> Gotestra: A package is just a technical term for something you can install from the software center...
[18:15] <Gotestra> Oh.
[18:15] <ezoe> I tried, but not actually perform, apt-get purge to see what packages will be removed. LibreOffice is not listed.
[18:16] <Gotestra> How about those things you have to install using the command line
[18:16] <Gotestra> .tghz or whatever.
[18:16] <theadmin> Gotestra: Don't touch those until you know what you're doing.
[18:16] <Pici> Gotestra: Those are compressed archives... like zip files.
[18:16] <auronandace> !software | Gotestra
[18:16] <minimec> Gotestra: Well... Packages may contain applications or depending libraries; certainly other things to. In newer ubuntu version, the software center and the update-manager manager them for you...
[18:16] <Gotestra> Oh.
[18:17] <Gotestra> Wow I have a lot to learn.
[18:17] <theadmin> Gotestra: It's mostly source-code -- some tarballs are binary but that's rare. ALWAYS look in the software center before installing anything in a crazy way (tarballs are a crazy way)
[18:17] <Gotestra> :o
[18:17] <Lint> is software-center finally fixed in precise?
[18:17] <theadmin> Well, not "crazy", just not recommended.
[18:17] <theadmin> Lint: What do you mean by "fixed", it works just fine in Oneiric, even.
[18:17] <Gotestra> I remember using tarball on my iPod Touch, I used a Unix terminal command for installing crazy stuff.
[18:18] <Gotestra> Thanks btw
[18:18] <Lint> 11.10 version is unusable
[18:18] <simplew> ubuntu uses systemd?
[18:18] <oCean> Lint: precise is offtopic
[18:18] <theadmin> simplew: Hah I wish, no, Ubuntu uses Upstart.
[18:18] <simplew> theadmin: why doesnt use systemd?
[18:18] <Pici> oCean: 11.10 is oneiric.
[18:18] <auronandace> Lint: unusable how?
[18:18] <theadmin> simplew: That's about the same as asking why it doesn't use KDE, for instance -- developer choice, that's all
[18:18] <Pici> oCean: oops, misread.
[18:19] <oCean> np
[18:19] <simplew> well seams i will not use ubuntu
[18:19] <Lint> it hangs constantly and fails to query installation/deinstallation properly
[18:19] <Lint> and of course it is an order of magnitude slower than synaptic
[18:19] <auronandace> Lint: hangs constantly? my xubunu 11.10 is solid as a rock
[18:19] <k014> can i ask here software doubts?
[18:20] <theadmin> k014: Depends on what you mean...
[18:20] <auronandace> Lint: oh, just the software centre? sorry, i only use synaptic
[18:20] <theadmin> Lint: Software center is written in Python, making it quite a resource hog, I don't think they're going to "fix" that.
[18:21] <k014> for example, now i am in a mac OSX (snow leopard) at my the office…. using ADIUM, i wanted to know if there is any software in ubuntu to join irc servers that have the same look and feel that hadium have
[18:21] <theadmin> k014: Pidgin (Adium is a direct clone of Pidgin)
[18:21] <k014> GREAT, thank you
[18:21] <k014> but, i gonna give a try first to irsii
[18:21] <k014> is really difficult for me, but i cant console solutions
[18:21] <k014> :D
[18:22] <theadmin> k014: It's "irssi", and you won't like it if you're not a fan of CLI
[18:24] <cyrusgod> Hi there, can anyone tell me if 12.04 bring gnome 3 or unity?
[18:24] <ikonia> cyrusgod: unity is gnome 3
[18:24] <auronandace> cyrusgod: both, unity is a shell on top of gnome3
[18:24] <ikonia> cyrusgod: unity is the desktop shell for all ubuntu release.
[18:24] <LmAt> Pici: I can't figure it out.  Which is better, mutt or pine?
[18:25] <minimec> k014: But if you love a terminal, it could give you something like this... http://imagebin.org/209387
[18:25] <trism> cyrusgod: we do have gnome-shell as well though
[18:25] <Pici> LmAt: I personally prefer mutt. But ymmv.
[18:25] <auronandace> LmAt: better is subjective
[18:25] <Moon_Doggy> ello ello
[18:25] <k014> now i am fine with CLI, i use vim dialy, but i am looking for a irc cli client, that let me see user list in realtime…. seems like irssi can do that but not in a easy way
[18:25] <LmAt> Pici: One thing is that the mutt channel has people in it.
[18:25] <LmAt> auronandace: Not always.
[18:25] <LmAt> Moon_Doggy: Congratulations.
[18:25] <theadmin> k014: You can look on scripts.irssi.org for a script which'd do that
[18:25] <cyrusgod> ikonia: trism Thnks
[18:26] <Moon_Doggy> i need help editing the .bashrc
[18:26] <Pici> k014: #irssi is also active and helpful.
[18:26] <theadmin> Moon_Doggy: With what exactly?
[18:26] <Moon_Doggy> LmAt, ??? congratulations?
[18:26] <LmAt> Moon_Doggy: Congrats on making it to #ubuntu!!
[18:26] <auronandace> k014: another one like irssi is weechat
[18:27] <Moon_Doggy> theadmin, i'm trying to add the android-sdk to my path but terminal give me this bash: export: `/home/moondoggy/android-sdk-linux/platform-tools': not a valid identifier
[18:27] <theadmin> Moon_Doggy: export PATH="$PATH:/home/moondoggy/android-sdk-linux/platform-tools"
[18:27] <axisys> how do read excel from cli? looking for abiword or antiword like tool for word doc
[18:27] <bekks> axisys: there isnt.
[18:28] <theadmin> axisys: Convert the table to CSV is the best I can suggest
[18:29] <Moon_Doggy> theadmin, tyvm
[18:29] <axisys> theadmin, bekks : hmm.. convert csv will do.. any csv converter ?
[18:30] <fl1bbl3> can do that via perl directly too
[18:30] <peeps> while trying to install ubuntu 12.04 got the message "video mode not supported" any ideas on how to rectify this problem?
[18:30] <axisys> excel to csv?
[18:30] <yalu> hello. it seems there is no swiss german layout in ubuntu (anymore), or I am too  stupid to find it. "setxkbmap sg" slings an error "Error loading new keyboard description".
[18:30] <k014> ok, thank you admin and Pici :)
[18:30] <bekks> axisys: "no".
[18:30] <axisys> fl1bbl3: right.. i want ot make it simple like a wrapper.. feed the excel file and display the output
[18:32] <marsfligth> why on 10.10/64bit i can't switch desktop? the other 3 are greyed. The applet name is 'Workspace Switcher'
[18:34] <bekks> marsfligth: Add more desktops, then switch to them?
[18:35] <d3vil> hi
[18:35] <d3vil> anuone there?
[18:35] <wylde> !10.10
[18:35] <GetsEclectic> hey can anyone help me with gptsync or is there a better channel to ask about it?
[18:35] <d3vil> anyone help me to install openfoam
[18:36] <Varazir> Hello, I'm trying to give one client diffrent DNS adresses using dhcp, I tried to add option domain-name-servers to the host statement  in the dhcpd.conf but the host still was given the dns adress from the subnet statement
[18:36] <afterburner> help please .. what can I do to make firefox, xchat etc. to respect unity gtk theme??!
[18:36] <Moon_Doggy> !11.10
[18:36] <GetsEclectic> keep getting analysis inconclusive, i thought it was because of my bios boot partition but i installed a newer gptsync debian package and it's still failing
[18:37] <marsfligth> bekks: already done, all still greyed. before i used also 'ctrl+alt+desk number' but now has dead
[18:37] <Moon_Doggy> afterburner, have you tried changing theme then logging out then back in
[18:38] <Ghost_Berry> how to enable taskbar editing in ubuntu 11.10( I want to remove icons I recently added)
[18:38] <afterburner> MooMoo, no .. I`ll do it now
[18:38] <foobArrr> my esata hard drive doesn't work, it doesn't appear in disk utility or lsblk. I don't think it's a hardware problem, it works fine on os x on the same pc. dmesg says http://paste.ubuntu.com/942941/
[18:38] <theadmin> Ghost_Berry: Just right click them and untick "Keep in Launcher"
[18:38] <Moon_Doggy> tho on gnome-shell i just do a alt-f2 r  but i dont know if that works on unity
[18:39] <LmAt> Pici: Does the fact that I use exchange change anything (when deciding on a text-based e-mail client)?
[18:40] <Moon_Doggy> i use roundcube for me email
[18:40] <Moon_Doggy> but i also have me own email server
[18:40] <LmAt> Moon_Doggy: Is it text-based?
[18:41] <Moon_Doggy> LmAt, na web client
[18:41] <EsoRottica> Hello, I'm struggling here. Im a bit new to linux and cant quite figure this problem out. I have a user profile that I can no longer log into. This happened after I had a problem with the display manager and reboot the computer. Other profiles work fine, but when I try logging into this one, the screens blank then it takes me back to the login screen. Any clues on what I can do? Thank you.
[18:41] <Ammar_> hello
[18:41] <davros1966> Anyone?
[18:41] <FirePowi> Anyone :)
[18:41] <LmAt> Moon_Doggy: Sorry, there wasn't much context in my question.  I'm definitely looking for a text-based client (like irssi and elinks) and Pici had suggested mutt and pine.
[18:42] <afterburner> Moon_Doggy, it doesn`t work
[18:42] <Moon_Doggy> afterburner, any luck?
[18:42] <davros1966> Im a noob ... lol
[18:42] <Moon_Doggy> lol
[18:42] <Ghost_Berry> hello\
[18:42] <Ammar_> I have installed windows xp on a virtualbox. but everytime I powerup my machine, it takes me to the installation menu
[18:42] <Ammar_> how do I fix that
[18:42] <Ammar_> ?
[18:43] <Moon_Doggy> then i dont what to do then, i dumped unity after 10 mins for gnome3
[18:43] <xangua> Ammar_: sounds like a question for ##windows
[18:43] <davros1966> ~Unity is cool
[18:43] <EsoRottica> Ammar_, have you pushed f12 to select boot device?
[18:43] <simplew> is there any planing to change into Systemd?  or ubuntu will continue with upstart?
[18:43] <Ammar_> nope
[18:43] <EsoRottica> try that.
[18:43] <Ammar_> alright
[18:43] <bekks> simplew: Ubuntu will continue with upstart for at least 5 years.
[18:44] <simplew> bekks: but why, when systemd offers more stability, beneficts and options ?
[18:44] <theadmin> bekks: Where is that date coming from?
[18:44] <bekks> theadmin: Thats how long 12.04 will be supported, whoch uses upstart. :)
[18:44] <simplew> fedora did changed from upstrart into Systemd
[18:45] <theadmin> simplew: I don't think Fedora ever used Upstart, it's an Ubuntu project.
[18:45] <MarcN> Ammar_: sounds like you still have the windows xp install iso still mounted.
[18:45] <theadmin> simplew: Far as I recall they only used the good old SysV Init earlier
[18:45] <simplew> theadmin: yes they did
[18:45] <Ghost_Berry> theadmin: all i get when I right click is "launch" "properties" ubuntu 9 allows the simple right click but not ubuntu 11.10
[18:45] <theadmin> simplew: Huh. Guess I missed it.
[18:46] <theadmin> Ghost_Berry: Some icons are pinned by default and unremovable, no idea what to do about them. Most of them can be removed though
[18:46] <simplew> then Fedora switched to Systemd that offered much beneficts
[18:46] <theadmin> simplew: Why do *you* need systemd?
[18:46] <Ghost_Berry> theadmin: its the icons I have added but i am unable to remove as I did easily in the previous version
[18:46] <simplew> im used to systemd, and its very reliabe
[18:46] <Ghost_Berry> theadmin: thanks for trying
[18:47] <theadmin> simplew: Okay, so no reason, except "I'm used to it". There is no way Upstart is not "reliable".
[18:47] <simplew> and i been checking the pros and crons in distros, to see which distro i will use
[18:47] <Ammar__> @EsoRottica thanks :D it worked!
[18:47] <simplew> theadmin: i have been reading severall pages about upstart and systemd
[18:48] <MarcN> Anyone have experience with the DisplayLink USB Video adapter? Haven't been able to get it working under Oneric or Precise.  Requires xorg.conf hacking (which I have hated for years)
[18:48] <bazhang> simplew, ubuntu support question then? this is getting quite offtopic
[18:48] <simplew> also talked with some developers about the real beneficts, and they were clear on that point
[18:48] <bazhang> !ot | simplew
[18:48] <EsoRottica> Ammar__, you're welcome, now if only i could figure out my profile problem :)
[18:49] <theadmin> simplew: You can just install systemd from the repos and use it. I don't see a problem here.
[18:49] <theadmin> !info systemd
[18:49] <simplew> theadmin: not that im against upstart, im was just trying to understand the why using a certain app where there is a better option
[18:49] <theadmin> Oh, huh.
[18:49] <theadmin> Thought we had it...
[18:49] <simplew> theadmin: is simple as that?
[18:49] <trism> theadmin: we don't have systemd in ubuntu, it is in debian though
[18:49] <theadmin> simplew: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/systemd
[18:50] <theadmin> simplew: Some instructions there
[18:50] <bazhang> simplew, please. take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:50] <theadmin> trism: Ah, I see.
[18:50] <simplew> does upstart works as systemd? doesnt packages need to have a proper scriptlets for systemd?
[18:50] <dudeeg> Hi! May I have a question regarding ubuntu installation, in case of dual boot, spiced a little bit of SSD sector alignment?
[18:51] <simplew> bazhang: but this i think is not that off topic, im trying to undesrtand a matter about upstart
[18:51] <Star_Light> ##C++
[18:51] <simplew> theadmin: ok thanks for tips
[18:52] <simplew> theadmin: can you just tell me if debian uses systemd or upstart?
[18:52] <zanberdo> running ubuntu 8.04 LTS server and need libutempter-dev in order to build mosh from source. However, libutempter-dev does not appear to be apart of ubuntu 8.04. How might one aquire such a library for an older release of ubuntu?
[18:52] <kantlivelong> anyone know what common issues prevent suspending?
[18:53] <theadmin> simplew: I've honestly never used debian myself
[18:53] <theadmin> simplew: I'm an Arch user, and configuring systemd on Arch is rather simple (even though it's not the default)
[18:53] <theadmin> simplew: But that is way offtopic.
[18:53] <Binsh> Any recommended console musicplayers which support samba?
[18:54] <dudeeg> so, is my question offtopic about proper setup for SSD with ubuntu/win partition?
[18:54] <bekks> Binsh: Just mount the samba share, and every music player will support it.
[18:54] <Binsh> bekks: hmmkay, ive had some trouble with amarok and banshee :S
[18:55] <EvilResistance> zanberdo, i think you'd have to acquire the source and build it on your system, the earliest (currently supported) release it exists in is Lucid, you could try to build that package from source (although its likely you won't have the prereqs)
[18:55] <ikonia> dudeeg: what's your question ?
[18:55] <kantlivelong> rather... anyone know why pm_trace doesnt work?
[18:55] <EvilResistance> s/likely/possible/
[18:55] <minimec> dudeeg: It is not. But if you already have a ntfs alignment settings, maybe you should resize the partition you want to use for ubuntu with the windows tools.
[18:56] <asterisk-Tester> hello, in ubuntu 11 under unity2d, the files/home icon/button that lets u browse ur disk is nautilus, right ?
[18:56] <zanberdo> EvilResistance, thanks. that's the approach I am taking (building from scratch). I'm just not sure if most ./configure or make will find what it needs if I merely build and deploy utempter. Guess I'll se.. :)
[18:56] <dudeeg> ikonia: I've read on several forums that the SSD partitions should be aligned in a way that the start sector number should be divisible by 8 in order to reduce the unnecessary load
[18:56] <dudeeg> ikonia: so, I'd like to have one SSD with ubuntu and win7 on it
[18:56] <ikonia> dudeeg: I don't believe that, but the guys in ##hardware may know more for certain
[18:56] <ikonia> dudeeg: ok, so just partition it up in partitions /8
[18:57] <EvilResistance> zanberdo, couldnt tell you, but you could look at the dependencies of the package as it exists in Lucid, see what programs it needs.  Of course, the program won't build if the correct prereqs dont exist, so... :P
[18:57] <minimec> dudeeg: IMHO that is correct and I did it like that.
[18:57] <Fyodorovna> dudeeg, I doubt the ssd card will show overall a perfect sized cylinders anyway.
[18:57] <dudeeg> ikonia: so the proper approach is to boot in using the liveCD, and then create two partitions (ntfs/ext4) with a proper start sector count?
[18:58] <zanberdo> EvilResistance, yeah. thanks. that's pretty much what I figured. I was actually fishing to see if there is/was some other means through which I could install. Just being lazy. :)
[18:58] <ikonia> dudeeg: just use the installer,
[18:58] <ikonia> dudeeg: I'd do more research before bothering with that /8 stuff, but it's up to you
[18:58] <EvilResistance> zanberdo, someone could in theory try to backport the package from lucid, but i have no idea whether that'd work or not (its possible it wouldnt, and i'm not exactly able to help test, even though I do occasionally backport things within PPAs)
[18:58] <minimec> dudeeg: If you use a clean ssd, the installer should handle it the correct way...
[18:59] <dudeeg> ikonia: okay, lets put that away now. So if I am done with the partitions and I install Ubuntu, and then later on I install win7, then I need to reload the grub into the MBR. Is that right?
[19:00] <zanberdo> EvilResistance, thanks for the feedback. I think I'll take a stab at building it from source on target server and see what happens when I attempt to build mosh.
[19:00] <ikonia> dudeeg: correct, it's better to install windows first if possible
[19:00] <dudeeg> ikonia: okay, thank you for your help
[19:01] <dudeeg> by the way. Is there a summary somewhere that shows the major upgrades in the new release that is coming soon? I am having 11.10 now
[19:03] <minimec> dudeeg: That could be a good start https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/TechnicalOverview/Beta2
[19:04] <kx> anyone know if it's possible to remap keyboard Fn function key to use as a standalone button?
[19:04] <aknewhope> kx: that would be cool
[19:05] <kx> yep
[19:05] <dudeeg> minimec: thx!
[19:06] <theadmin> kx: It doesn't produce a keycode by itself, so unlikely.
[19:06] <sun_devil> Is it easy to connect to a mysql database on a server via ubuntu?
[19:06] <ikonia> sun_devil: yes
[19:07] <aknewhope> ssh right?
[19:08] <ikonia> aknewhope: what ?
[19:08] <LordXe-gnu> ssh it's nap time
[19:08] <ikonia> what ?
[19:08] <afterburner> Moon_Doggy: I figured out.. :)
[19:08] <sun_devil> ikonia: My vmware with the mysql is set to bridged, just not sure what to do on ubuntu to access database?
[19:09] <NurseDad> how do i check to see if my ati card is rendering 3d?
[19:09] <aknewhope> huh?
[19:09] <ikonia> sun_devil: exactly the same as if it was a physical box
[19:09] <axisys> ssconvert from pkg gnumeric converts xlsx to csv and other formats..
[19:09] <afterburner> medit gtkrc-2.0 = include "/usr/share/themes/Ambiance/gtk-2.0/gtkrc" gtk-icon-theme-name = "ubuntu-mono-dark"
[19:09] <axisys> and it is fast
[19:09] <sun_devil> So install mysql workbench on ubuntu machine and create settings?
[19:10] <ikonia> sun_devil: if that's how you like to connect, sure
[19:11] <aknewhope> does anyone know if there is a room for pidgn chat client on freenode?
[19:11] <ikonia> aknewhope: .....think about it #pidgin
[19:11] <sun_devil> ikonia: I can access the database in vmware via command line and mysql workbench, but have not done anything on ubuntu machine
[19:11] <aknewhope> i thought it was spelled pidgn
[19:11] <prailone> hey
[19:11] <aknewhope> woops
[19:11] <aknewhope> thanks
[19:11] <prailone> anyway someone could help me im having trouble
[19:12] <ikonia> sun_devil: so do it
[19:12] <zanberdo> NurseDad, with mesa-utils installed you can run: glxinfo | grep [Dd]irect
[19:12] <prailone> after installing ubuntu my computer will not connect to the internet
[19:12] <sun_devil> ikonia: do what set up workbench on ubuntu, if so you know the apt-get for workbench?
[19:13] <ikonia> sun_devil: come on....you need to learn a bit if you don't know how to even search for a package
[19:13] <zanberdo> NurseDad, you should see: ":direct rendering: Yes" if it's supported
[19:13] <ikonia> sun_devil: https://help.ubuntu.com - read the basics of how to use an ubuntu machine
[19:13] <gebbione> anyone here uses openshot?
[19:14] <Logan_> !anyone | gebbione
[19:14] <gebbione> anyone uses openshot here? when i export a video i dont get the audio working
[19:14] <gebbione> no matter what codec i select for audio
[19:15] <Logan_> gebbione: If you don't find someone here who knows the solution to your problem, the official channel for OpenShot is #openshot.
[19:16] <sun_devil> no mercy
[19:16] <gebbione> the two guys on that channel are dead
[19:16] <minimec> prailone: I have to guess that you have some wireless connection problms. Are your sure, that your device is not switched of? Hardware key or 'enable wireless' with network-manager.
[19:16] <NurseDad> zanberdo: so if I see direct rendering yes then I have 3d?
[19:16] <prailone> its wired internet
[19:16] <prailone> this is the first time i installed ubuntu :$
[19:17] <aknewhope> i love ubuntu
[19:17] <aknewhope> <3
[19:17] <MrUnagi> vm is restarting, 3rd times a charm i hope
[19:17] <prailone> when it was installing i pulled the ethernet cable by accident would that be the reason?
[19:18] <minimec> prailone: Probably not.
[19:18] <prailone> any idea why it wouldent be working?
[19:19] <minimec> ok. in a console type the command 'ifconfig'. That would give you some indications. You should have some eth0 device or similar.
[19:19] <MrUnagi> yay!
[19:19] <prailone> eth0
[19:19] <shanemini> ok, my wife's Dell mini that I'm 'not allowed'  to touch finally ran into a problem
[19:19] <minimec> prailone: So your device should be recognized by the system. Does eth0 have some ip adress?
[19:20] <sun_devil> What is the command to find out if you have a 32 or 64 bit machine?
[19:20] <prailone> ya inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>
[19:20] <ikonia> uname -a will show if your using 32/64 bit
[19:20] <prailone> bcast:<IP_ADDRESS>
[19:20] <ikonia> prailone: is there a reason we are getting a running commentary ?
[19:20] <NurseDad> so if I see "direct rendering: Yes
[19:20] <NurseDad> server glx vendor string: ATI
[19:20] <NurseDad> server glx version string: 1.4
[19:20] <ikonia> prailone: please stop it
[19:21] <NurseDad> does that mean I have 3d with the properity driver
[19:21] <shanemini> she was installing something, and now apt-get is totally locked up, here is the error:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/943022/
[19:21] <zanberdo> NurseDad, if glxinfo returns direct rendering: Yes then you have 3D support (IIRC).  You can try running glxgears to confirm
[19:21] <minimec> prailone: So your card is connected to your router too. Would 'ping <IP_ADDRESS>' give you some response?
[19:22] <bekks> shanemini: Check available disk space.
[19:22] <prailone> no host unreachable
[19:22] <zykotick9> sun_devil: "uname -m" will report the kernel's bitness
[19:23] <NurseDad> is 1358.199FPS good in glxgears?
[19:23] <minimec> prailone: Hmm... ping <IP_ADDRESS> (default address router?)?
[19:23] <zykotick9> sun_devil: "dpkg --print-architecture" as an alternative
[19:23] <bkc_> NurseDad: please for the love of god, *don't* use glxgears for benchmarking -.-
[19:23] <prailone> same thing host unreachable
[19:24] <sun_devil> Thanks took a bit to google it
[19:24] <kurtul> my mic works with skype, but doesn't work with google-talk. can someone guide me please?
[19:24] <shanemini> bekks, root has 1.4G left, I cleaned out all the dowloaded packages
[19:24] <NurseDad> bkc: I already love God...and what should I use
[19:24] <bkc_> NurseDad: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Glxgears_is_not_a_Benchmark
[19:24] <sun_devil> I feel like a idiot today
[19:24] <shanemini> bekks  I need to remove a few kernels as there are about 20 installed, however apt-get won't let me do anything
[19:24] <bkc_> NurseDad: under "5. Real Benchmarks"
[19:24] <NurseDad> bkc: ok
[19:25] <bkc_> kurtul: have you set up google-talk correcly?
[19:25] <kurtul> yes i have
[19:25] <shanemini> bekks, I'm a little rusty on cli, and used to be able to fix this kind of stuff.
[19:26] <bekks> shanemini: Then first run sudo apt-get clean
[19:26] <shanemini> bekks, did that, I'll do it again
[19:26] <bekks> Check disk space again :)
[19:26] <minimec> prailone: the default ip of your router might be different than <IP_ADDRESS>... As you got an ip adress from the router, you seem to be connected to it correctly. I would reboot that machine and see if you again get an ip and if that one is different.
[19:26] <zanberdo> NurseDad, note that I only suggested using glxgears to verify direct rendering. :)
[19:26] <shanemini> bekks, same old 1.4GB free
[19:26] <NurseDad> zanberdo: noted :)
[19:27] <bekks> shanemini: thats more than enough.
[19:27] <bekks> shanemini: Pastebin the output of df -h please
[19:27] <minimec> prailone: Do you have access to the router's admin panel form another computer? You could verify the connection then ...
[19:27] <bkc_> NurseDad: zanberdo: please use "glxinfo | grep direct" next time, takes shorter time and less confusion ^^
[19:27] <NurseDad> zanberdo: how do I confirm I am using the ATI property  driver?
[19:28] <bkc_> NurseDad: lsmod
[19:28] <NurseDad> bkc: that is what he had me do
[19:28] <bkc_> lsmod | grep radeon
[19:28] <shanemini> bekks,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/943038/
[19:29] <NurseDad> bkc: after that command what am I looking for
[19:29] <bekks> shanemini: You dont have a free space problem anymore :)
[19:30] <bkc_> NurseDad: if you get output for "radeon" then you're using radeon-driver (which I believe is the prop-blob)
[19:30] <shanemini> bekks, just a second, I just realized she is using some old servers in the repo, I always set them to the USA, they are set to elsewhere
[19:30] <bkc_> NurseDad: http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary
[19:30] <bekks> shanemini: Which Ubuntu version is that?
[19:31] <bkc_> NurseDad: sorry, it's "lsmod | grep fglrx" for the proprietary driver :)
[19:31] <shanemini> bekks, I'm not sure, it the last LTS release that came on the dell mini
[19:31] <shanemini> bekks, so it is older
[19:31] <bekks> shanemini: You can check that with lsb_release -a
[19:32] <shanemini> bekks, lucid, 10.04
[19:33] <shanemini> bekks, ok, I reset the software source to the USA, I'm updating and going to try again, that may have been the problem
[19:33] <shanemini> bekks we lived out of the USA before, and the servers were set to the old country.
[19:33] <shanemini> of which I never did really trust.
[19:33] <NurseDad> bkc: jeff@jeffsLaptop:~$ lsmod | grep fglrx
[19:33] <NurseDad> fglrx                3263886  54
[19:33] <SupYoshi> Hi guys need some help
[19:34] <SupYoshi> I want to give one user access through ftp to a specific location in the /home of another user
[19:34] <SupYoshi> is that possible?
[19:34] <SupYoshi> Using proftpd
[19:34] <bkc_> NurseDad: then you're using the proprietary driver :)
[19:35] <shanemini> SupYoshi, if they are both Linux boxes, check out NFS, that is easy to setup
[19:35] <floogy> Hi, If I want to use ecryptfs only for a particular folder in my home directory, let's say ~/ubuntu one, is there a howto on the net for the steps to go?
[19:35] <shanemini> bekks, seems to be downloading now, I think it was a repo error, not downloading correctly, there probably was a space issue too.
[19:36] <NurseDad> bkc: thank you for your help today
[19:36] <NurseDad> zanberdo: thank you for your help today
[19:36] <floogy> I'm curious if that will work on other folders than ~/.Private
[19:37] <aleprovencio> I use "keycode 97 = Shift_L" with xmodmap, can someone please tell me how to do something similar with setxkbmap?
[19:37] <NurseDad> I used to know this stuff or some of it but I have been away in windows land for a few years
[19:37] <zanberdo> NurseDad, np. glad to help
[19:37] <wylde> !search cryptkeeper
[19:37] <wylde> !info cryptkeeper
[19:37] <zanberdo> bkc_, yeah, or even glxinfo | grep irect. Been working with regex alot lately... :)
[19:38] <bkc_> zanberdo: that's not really regex ^^
[19:38] <shanemini> bekks, check out this error, and the string of kernels that are installed:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/943050/
[19:38] <zanberdo> bkc_, meh :)
[19:38] <bkc_> zanberdo: you missed the -e switch
[19:39] <zanberdo> bkc_, yeah :) I'm dividing my attentions between this and trying to build mosh from source on ubuntu 8.04... :)
[19:39] <jatt> when will be the next ubutu release?
[19:39] <zykotick9> !schedule | jatt
[19:39] <bkc_> zanberdo: so 'glxinfo | grep -e "[D,d]irect"' would be correct ;)
[19:40] <zykotick9> bkc_: fyi using "grep -i direct" is case insensitive
[19:40] <bekks> shanemini: Whats the output of "df -i"?
[19:40] <zanberdo> bkc_, don't think the double-quotes is required, and the comma is superfluous IIRC
[19:41] <bkc_> zykotick9: yes :)
[19:41] <zanberdo> bkc_, and then there is zykotick9 suggestion. :)
[19:41] <bkc_> zanberdo: I'm used to perl-regex ^^
[19:41] <floogy> ubotto, yes, but as far as I remember EncFs doesn't support symlinking, though I'm not sure about a EncFs vs. ecryptfs comparison.
[19:41] <zanberdo> bkc_, python here. :)
[19:41] <bkc_> "Screw you guys, I'm doing home" ^^
[19:41] <baizon> you mena going
[19:41] <bkc_> baizon: yeyeye
[19:42] <bkc_> zanberdo: python is awesome for scripting ^^
[19:42] <shanemini> bekks, /dev/sda6             610800  608827    1973  100% /  that is the problem
[19:42] <baizon> Kaco: your bored?
[19:42] <bekks> shanemini: ack.
[19:42] <zanberdo> bkc_, it definitely has it's strengths.
[19:42] <Kaco> baizon, why would you think that?
[19:42] <shanemini> bekks I'm not sure what to do though.
[19:42] <shanemini> bekks, reboot??
[19:43] <zanberdo> bkc_, but I fear a language war were we to debate pros and cons, and this aint the channel for that. :)
[19:43] <baizon>  You are being CTCP flooded from Kaco, ignoring<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[19:43] <Kaco> baizon, and you spelled "are you" wrong
[19:43] <bekks> shanemini: No. That wont magically generate more space :)
[19:43] <Kaco> baizon, lol flooded? i tested ctcp response ... i'm developing an irc client :)
[19:43] <shanemini> bekks, inodes are full, I'm not sure what an inode is, shall I get a toothbrush, and start cleaning them out???  lol
[19:43] <Kaco> baizon, isn't your irc client a little bit paranoid?
[19:44] <baizon> Kaco: so your a bad dev :D
[19:44] <floogy> err s/ubotto/wylde/
[19:44] <bekks> shanemini: You could temporarily move things, like old stuff from /usr/src/ until you solved the error message above.
[19:44] <bkc_> zanberdo: true ^^
[19:44] <bekks> Then move it back, and delete the old kernels.
[19:44] <Kaco> baizon, well IRC standard says that client should reply to CTCP, it doesn't say that client should be paranoid about ctcp request however
[19:44] <shanemini> bekks, hmm, isn't there a way I can force deletion of old kernels, routing around the problem?
[19:45] <baizon> Kaco: ctcp is a method to DoS people
[19:45] <baizon> so it has its reason
[19:45] <Pici> baizon, Kaco: can we get back to Ubuntu support please?
[19:45] <Kaco> baizon, well whole IRC protocl is shit :)
[19:45] <baizon> Pici: indeed, sorry
[19:45] <bekks> shanemini: you could try to remove the old kernels.
[19:45] <Pici> Kaco: and please mind your language here as well.
[19:45] <bekks> apt-get purge theoldkernel
[19:45] <Kaco> baizon, and doing DoS on IRC sounds pretty lame to me, it's not like Anonymous attacks :)
[19:45] <wolf_> join #ubuntu-ru
[19:46] <shanemini> bekks all my attempts at that have failed, I don't remember all the options to force stuff through
[19:47] <scientes> if i am going to set up world re-writable/shared media directories for all users, where do i have to put that to make it compatible with apparmor?
[19:47] <shanemini> bekks, everything in /usr/src all seem to be softlinks
[19:47] <bekks> shanemini: Softlinks to what?
[19:47] <scientes> shanemini, /usr/src is not used very much
[19:47] <shanemini> bekks, ohh, wait, not softlinks, they are folders
[19:47] <shanemini> all 4k size
[19:47] <bekks> scientes: Execpt for headers and kernel sources.
[19:48] <bekks> shanemini: du -sh /usr/src/
[19:48] <bekks> 4k is just the inode size of that directory entry.
[19:49] <IntuitiveNipple> shanemini: I had to do something similar earlier to a server I upgraded that hit 100% on /. I looked in /var/cache/apt/archives and removed the .deb package files from there to make a little space. Also, take a look at /var/log/*.gz
[19:49] <shanemini> bekks, I just dumped them all to a new temp location on a different partition, I'm going to try it again, should be good now
[19:49] <bekks> IntuitiveNipple: "sudo apt-get clean" ;)
[19:50] <bekks> shanemini: Check with df -i :)
[19:50] <IntuitiveNipple> bekks: Same thing - I had to do a live online resize of / too
[19:50] <shanemini> bekks, still moving it all
[19:50] <shanemini> that was a lot of junk in there
[19:51] <shanemini> bekks, ok, got it down to 92% now, still moving files
[19:52] <shanemini> bekks, what is the inode?  I would think if there are blocks left, then there is space left, that must not be true??
[19:53] <guntbert> shanemini: if you have a lot of small files you may run out of inode - every file needs/has one
[19:53] <guntbert> *inodes
[19:54] <IntuitiveNipple> shanemini: an inode is an index-node and represents about a file directory or other object
[19:54] <bekks> shanemini: The inode is the entity holding the information about the name and the location of a file, and a lot more information.
[19:54] <shanemini> bekks, ahh, it is the directory for the drive.
[19:55] <bekks> shanemini: It's like an index of a book, with a given maximum number of chapters.
[19:55] <shanemini> bekks, right, that is what I was understanding
[19:55] <aleprovencio> I use "keycode 97 = Shift_L" with xmodmap, can someone please tell me how to do something similar with setxkbmap?
[19:57] <n1x> hi, I'm unable to start Unity after using Kubuntu (KDE) for a while, here are the errors -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/943077/
[19:57] <shanemini> bekks ok, finally finished, now that is done, now before I move all those files back, I need to get rid of some, because there isn't enough inode space on root, any thoughts?
[19:57] <shanemini> bekks, I already ran apt-get -f install
[19:58] <StealthVipera47> Hi! Eny one know that can i run stronghold-kingdoms in wine?
[19:58] <shanemini> bekks, and that executed without error
[19:58] <bekks> shanemini: good :)
[19:58] <shanemini> bekks, I assume I can remove the old kernels that I didn't 'temp move' without a problem??
[19:59] <shanemini> bekks, or causing apt-get to cough up an error because of the moved files?
[19:59] <bekks> shanemini: Now remove an old kernel, and make sure you move back all directories to /usr/src/ with the version string of the kernel to be removed in its name.
[19:59] <bekks> shanemini: Right :)
[19:59] <shanemini> bekks, ok, thanks a billion, I'm pretty sure I have never seen a problem like that before.
[20:00] <momovirus> Bonsoir messieurs dames
[20:00] <auronandace> !fr | momovirus
[20:01] <Xut-G> Bonsoir !
[20:02] <bkc_> !fr | Xut-G
[20:02] <krababbel> Why shouldn't I edit resolv.conf? I had to remove network manager. How can I prevent resolv.conf from being reset, or how should I define a dns server?
[20:03] <_DDG_> my computer that is wired to my network will not connect to the internet
[20:03] <_DDG_> any ideas?
[20:04] <IntuitiveNipple> Does it have a default root configured? (ip route show)
[20:04] <_DDG_> how do i check that
[20:05] <el_seano> _DDG_: by running `ip route show` in a terminal
[20:05] <_DDG_> yes
[20:05] <sw0rdfish> how can I copy a bootable CD to a usb
[20:06] <sw0rdfish> and the usb would be bootable
[20:06] <IntuitiveNipple> _DDG_: Does it have the correct DNS servers set (either a local proxy DNS, or ISP server) ?
[20:06] <el_seano> sw0rdfish: your best bet in general is to use uNetBootin.  Some iso's can be directly copied to a USB drive though.
[20:06] <sw0rdfish> el_seano, can't I just copy the CD's content
[20:06] <sw0rdfish> into the usb
[20:07] <sw0rdfish> after formating the usb first
[20:07] <sw0rdfish> would that work?
[20:07] <el_seano> sw0rdfish: depends on the iso.
[20:07] <guntbert> !enter | sw0rdfish
[20:07] <plustax> Does anyone know of an ETA for Ubuntu For Android?
[20:07] <floogy> Am I right, that only ecryptfs-migrate-home migrates the whole home directory to ecryptfs, while ecrypt-setup-private only sets up an empty encrypted ~/.Private folder?
[20:07] <shanemini> sw0rdfish, probably not, because there is something in there telling it to refer to the cdrom drive, vrs the usb stick
[20:08] <sw0rdfish> well its a vista cd
[20:08]  * el_seano is consistently impressed with the number of entries in ubottu.
[20:08] <el_seano> sw0rdfish: hard to say with the windows.
[20:08] <_DDG_> it does that automatically it looks right
[20:09] <IntuitiveNipple> _DDG_: try "dig www.ubuntu.com" - you should get: ";; ANSWER SECTION: www.ubuntu.com.		44	IN	A	<IP_ADDRESS>"
[20:09] <MrUnagi> i have ubuntu in a virtual box with a raw access vdi mounted but ubuntu doesn't see it
[20:10] <MrUnagi> how do i mount a second hard drive in ubuntu
[20:10] <bekks> ! mount | MrUnagi
[20:10] <MrUnagi> right but what i am saying is i don't know what the dev is of this drive
[20:11] <rasusto> is it an external drive that you plugged in?
[20:11] <_DDG_> IntuitiveNipple: cibbectuib tuned iytl bi servers ciykd be reacged
[20:11] <bekks> MrUnagi: sudo fdisk -l
[20:11] <_DDG_> sorry connection timed out*
[20:11] <popey> plustax: no ☺
[20:11] <IntuitiveNipple> _DDG_: Try "ping <IP_ADDRESS>"
[20:12] <_DDG_> net work is unreachable
[20:12] <rasusto> popey: how you do smiley face?
[20:12] <_DDG_> destination is unreachable*
[20:12] <el_seano> have we verified that _DDG_ has been issued an IP?
[20:12] <el_seano> _DDG_: try running `ip addr` in a terminal
[20:14] <zykotick9> MrUnagi: i sorta doubt ubuntu can mount vbox vdi images directly.  i could CERTAINLY be wrong.
[20:14] <_DDG_> whats suppose to come up i dont see an ip address
[20:14] <floogy> Ok, http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2009/06/migrating-to-encrypted-home-directory.html and http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2011/02/long-overdue-introduction-ecryptfs.html answer my questions.
[20:14] <MrUnagi> zykotick9: you can, but thats not what i am trying to do
[20:15] <popey> rasusto: with my keyboard ☺
[20:15] <el_seano> _DDG_: be easiest if you pastied the output.
[20:15] <el_seano> !paste _DDG_
[20:15] <zykotick9> MrUnagi: ahh, sorry.  then "sudo blkid" or "sudo fdisk -l" to list partitions
[20:15] <el_seano> heh, shucks.
[20:16] <bekks> sudo blkid -g; sudo blkid
[20:16] <zykotick9> elspuddy: you need to use = !factoid | NICKNAME
[20:16] <bekks> Otherwise you might see cached entries.
[20:16] <zykotick9> el_seano: tab fail :(  see above
[20:16] <_DDG_> im on another computer cuz it does not have inet so i cant do anything on the ubuntu comp :$
[20:16] <_DDG_> ill try and type it
[20:17] <el_seano> heh
[20:17] <el_seano> ah, right
[20:17] <el_seano> _DDG_: so, rather than that, try looking for the device name
[20:17] <el_seano> it should be something like eth0 or eth1
[20:17] <_DDG_> eth0
[20:17] <minimec> _DDG_: ip addr | grep eth0
[20:18] <el_seano> once you've figured out what the network device's name is, try running 'sudo dhclient eth0'
[20:19] <sepoki> hello, does anybody here have a script that copy a file rename it, but the new name depends the old one ?
[20:19] <el_seano> sepoki: try looking at `man rename`
[20:19] <_DDG_> el_seano: rtnetlink answers: flie sxists
[20:19] <escott> sepoki, you probably want to install and use the "rename" utility
[20:20] <multipass> im in ubuntu server in vmware and i cant scroll up to see all entries in ifconfig... how can i see the top one which is cut off?
[20:20] <el_seano> _DDG_: intersting, okay.
[20:20] <rasusto> multipass: ifconfig | less
[20:20] <el_seano> _DDG_: let's try running `ip addr | grep inet`
[20:20] <_DDG_> i replaced windows when i installed it
[20:20] <zykotick9> sepoki: you could also use something like: for file in * ; do cp $file NEW-$file ; done (which would add "NEW-" to the beginning of all files, basename could be used to add something to the end, but more complicated)
[20:21] <_DDG_> inet 127.0.1/8 scope host lo
[20:21] <el_seano> _DDG_: is that the only line you see?
[20:21] <_DDG_> 3 more under it
[20:21] <ryanjankowski> i just reactivated my android after not using it for a few months and now the market wont successfully download anything
[20:22] <ryanjankowski> anyone got any ideas/
[20:22] <zykotick9> ryanjankowski: how is that ubuntu related?
[20:22] <el_seano> _DDG_: any of them look like '192.168.something.something'?
[20:22] <ryanjankowski> just looking for help
[20:22] <theadmin> ryanjankowski: That's got nothing to do with Ubuntu, but you have to wait till your Market updates to the Play Store, it will do that automatically and will take a while
[20:22] <zykotick9> ryanjankowski: wrong channel.
[20:22] <SunTsu> ryanjankowski: in the wrong place
[20:22] <theadmin> ryanjankowski: Go to #android
[20:22] <el_seano> haha
[20:22] <el_seano> geez
[20:22] <ryanjankowski> oh sorry bros
[20:22] <ryanjankowski> my bad
[20:22] <_DDG_> el_seano:inet <IP_ADDRESS>/24 brd <IP_ADDRESS> scope global eth0
[20:22] <devn> I'm on ubuntu server and I need to add a windowing system -- what's the best way to add this? which package should i use?
[20:23] <devn> install metacity? or is there a better way to go about this?
[20:23] <el_seano> cool, so you've been issued an address and you have a default route defined.
[20:23] <rasusto> devn:you'll need to install x first
[20:23] <_DDG_> el_seano: so where should i start looking for the problem now?
[20:24] <el_seano> _DDG_: probably on the router.
[20:24] <krababbel> what route?
[20:25] <el_seano> _DDG_: what does your /etc/resolv.conf look like?
[20:25] <devn> rasusto: isn't there a package that will grab the deps for me?
[20:26] <el_seano> _DDG_: also, what did `ip route show` give you again?  Not seeing it in scrollback.
[20:26] <Saimom_> ciao
[20:26] <Saimom_> !list
[20:26] <Saimom_> !alis
[20:26] <rasusto> devn: i believe its xorg
[20:26] <_DDG_> default via <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:27] <Saimom_> !list
[20:27] <krababbel> el_seano: Shouldn't resolv.conf be empty?
[20:27] <zykotick9> Saimom_: as the factoid is trying to tell you, !list doesn't work here.
[20:27] <decksmasher> Hi..im having trouble downloading tor im using ubuntu 10.10 its not in synaptic so i downloaded it from source , it configures but get an error when i try and make it ..it sais i need libssl-dev.  so i download these and still get the same errors, is this becouse im using an older version off ubuntu.regards Dex
[20:27] <el_seano> krababbel: not necessarily, I think.
[20:28] <rasusto> desksmasher: just download the tor browser bundle from tor.org
[20:28] <el_seano> krababbel: my vanilla Precise install has the loopback address for local resolving first.
[20:28] <forestmonster> decksmasher: You need https://www.torproject.org/download/download-easy.html.en
[20:28] <krababbel> el_seano: not sure either, I have a text saying I shouldn't edit it.
[20:28] <forestmonster> decksmasher: the Tor Browser Bundle :)
[20:28] <decksmasher> thanks guys.!
[20:29] <el_seano> oh right, networkmanager likes to handle it.
[20:29] <krababbel> _DDG_: so you can ping that router on <IP_ADDRESS>? Is it sayin "state UP" on 'ip link'?
[20:30] <_DDG_> it wont ping it
[20:30] <el_seano> krababbel: the router is more likely at <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:31] <_DDG_> when i ping <IP_ADDRESS> it comes back with destination unreachable
[20:31] <guntbert> !nickspam > haylo
[20:31] <el_seano> _DDG_: your ip address has you on the <IP_ADDRESS> network, so unless you have a route to the <IP_ADDRESS> network, you won't be able to reach it.
[20:31] <el_seano> _DDG_: try `ping -c3 <IP_ADDRESS>`
[20:32] <krababbel> _DDG_: whatch the numbers. :) The router should be the default route then, not 254?
[20:32] <_DDG_> 3 packets transmitted 0 receiver +3 errors, 100% packet loss
[20:33] <_DDG_> el_seano: 3 packets transmitted 0 receiver +3 errors, 100% packet loss
[20:33] <el_seano> heh, drat
[20:33] <krababbel> _DDG_: You could also configure you interface automatically via dhcp?
[20:33] <krababbel> _DDG_: do you use networkmanager?
[20:33] <_DDG_> krababbel: it is set to auto atm :$
[20:33] <_DDG_> krabbel:no
[20:34] <minimec> _DDG_: sudo ifconfig eth0 down , then sudo dhclient eth0
[20:37] <_DDG_> minimec: still nothing :(
[20:38] <minimec> _DDG_: Did your ip for eth0 change? Or do you have got one again?
[20:38] <krababbel> _DDG_: Is it saying "state UP" on 'ip link'?
[20:39] <_DDG_> minimec: no
[20:39] <krababbel> _DDG_: also you'll have to enter your dns server address in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head then do resolvconf -u
[20:39] <_DDG_> krababbe1: yes
[20:40] <krababbel> _DDG_: you router is <IP_ADDRESS>, but ip route says via <IP_ADDRESS>? That's wrong, it should use your router.
[20:41] <krababbel> _DDG_: If you want to use static configuration. Are you sure about the router's address?
[20:41] <Marezz> Anyone knows some good ebook reader?
[20:42] <rasusto> Marezz: software or hardware?
[20:42] <_DDG_> krababbe1: i just want my internet to work
[20:42] <Marezz> software
[20:42] <MirkoKa> Marezz: try Calibre
[20:42] <DJones> Marezz: Try calibre, its a converter, but includes a reader
[20:44] <rasusto> second for calibre
[20:44] <chucknorris> is there a ubuntu how-to channel?
[20:44] <chucknorris> or can i ask questions here?
[20:44] <ciakky> cd $HOME/.xchat2/buduscript && ./install.sh
[20:45] <oszt> Hi
[20:45] <scientes> !ask | chucknorris
[20:45] <esd> hi guys, I want to move back to alsa from oss, but I have the following problem aplay: device_list:252: no soundcards found
[20:45] <esd> can someone help?
[20:45] <chucknorris> !patience
[20:45] <Marezz> MirkoKa, DJones, thanks
[20:45] <auronandace> chucknorris: ask away, but don't roundhouse kick anyone
[20:45] <krababbel> _DDG_: Have you tried editing /etc/network/interfaces?
[20:45] <scientes> esd, you arn't using oss, there is no native support for oss in linux
[20:46] <chucknorris> ill try not to lol
[20:46] <_DDG_> no
[20:46] <_DDG_> thanks for the help but i dont think linux is for me :(
[20:46] <esd> scientes: im not, im moving from oss to alsa, and I have alsa set up, oss removed, and my soundcards do not load under alsa
[20:46] <esd> esd: so i'm asking, what can I do to get it working?
[20:46] <esd> err scientes* :D
[20:46] <scientes> esd, amixer, however ubuntu uses pulseaudio on top of alsa
[20:46] <oszt> I'm running ubuntu 11.10. I'm having trouble getting wine to find various USB devices. Do I need to change some setting for it to do that?
[20:47] <esd> scientes: i had pa with oss as well
[20:47] <escott> oszt, what kind of device
[20:47] <oszt> escott: one is a sansidsk sansa clip + mp3 player
[20:48] <chucknorris> ok so i've been reading Unix & Linix System Administration Handbook, and i came accross a question "Find a list of names (from a telephone directory, perhaps) and use it as the input to a script that forms login names according to the naming convention at your site."
[20:48] <MirkoKa> oszt: Wine's USB support is rudimetary anyway, see http://wiki.winehq.org/USB
[20:48] <chucknorris> How many users can you accomodate before you have a collision? How many collisions are there overall? Use the data to evaluate your site's naming convention, and suggest improvements.
[20:48] <escott> oszt, thats probably usb mass storage so just mount it in linux
[20:48] <oszt> escott the other one is a garmin ant+ stick (connecting garmin gps devices, i.e. my pulse watch, via a radio link)
[20:48] <DeviceZer0> hello all. On 11.10 when I goto the user accounts....i dont have any "advanced" settings in it...is there something I need to do to enable advanced settings there?
[20:49] <oszt> escott, I have mounted it, but cannot see it in the wine explorer.
[20:49] <oszt> MirkoKa, I knew that, but thanks anyway
[20:49] <chucknorris> from what ive read im guessing ill have to use NEWUSERS....but i jus need a few tips on how to get the script started
[20:50] <MirkoKa> oszt: use winecfg to map the mountpoint visible to Wine as a drive letter
[20:51] <zykotick9> oszt: you sansa clip certainly doesn't require wine, or mine doesn't anyways...
[20:52] <oszt> zykotick9, no, but I'm using audible to get audiobooks and need to use their program in order to get their DRM files onto my player
[20:52] <jrib> chucknorris: I don't think that question is really a programming question so much as: come up with a convention for a username from FIRSTNAME LASTNAME (and other info from phonebook I suppose) and then think about your convention.  The programming part is to just create a script that takes in phonebook information and outputs login names.  For example, input "John Doe", output "jdoe"
[20:53] <oszt> MirkoKa, tried that, but no luck so far
[20:53] <MirkoKa> chucknorris: not sure if I understand the assignment, but start by lower-casing the first name (or last name). if there's already a user by that name, add the first (or last) names first char or somthing.
[20:54] <MirkoKa> chucknorris: as jrib said
[20:54] <Blaze> hi everyone
[20:55] <chucknorris> ok
[20:55] <shane2peru> bekks: are you still around?  removing all those kernels broke the wireless on my wife's dell mini, that is why I'm not allowed to touch her computer
[20:55] <escapeplan> Can anyone please tell me what program to use and how to make remote keyboard mouse via Android on ubuntu work ?
[20:55] <chucknorris> ok guys thanks
[20:56] <Tiktalik> yo
[20:56] <Tiktalik> is there any way to batch convert FLAC files to MP3
[20:56] <shane2peru> bekks: I noticed while removing kernels it kept saying stuff like wl.ko was active in this kernel, something about dkms to install module or something like that.  I'm assuming this is a known issue with the broadcom drivers for the wireless of this thing??
[20:57] <abdullahfaqeir> hello
[20:57] <Tiktalik> also, what program should I use to see how much space is taken up by what on my harddrive
[20:58] <bkc_> Tiktalik: python, perl, bash-scripts, basic, etc
[20:58] <abdullahfaqeir> please can anybuddy  help please
[20:58] <EvilResistance> !help | abdullahfaqeir
[20:58] <MirkoKa> oszt: have you tried the Autodetect button?
[20:58] <minimec> Tiktalik: http://www.google.ch/#hl=de&gs_nf=1&pq=sudo%20ifconfig%20eth0%20down&cp=13&gs_id=5qg&xhr=t&q=flac+to+mp3+ubuntu&pf=p&sclient=psy-ab&oq=flac+to+mp3+u&aq=0&aqi=g2&aql=&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=4461e231bb4f858a
[20:58] <shane2peru> anyone know about the dell inspiron 10 that had ubuntu pre-installed 10.04?  removing old kernels seems to have broken the wireless connection
[20:58] <auronandace> abdullahfaqeir: difficult to help when we don't know what's wrong
[20:58] <oszt> MirkoKa, yes. no luck
[20:58] <bkc_> EvilResistance: there is actually a command for that xD
[20:59] <minimec> Tiktalik: For diskspace baobab
[20:59] <abdullahfaqeir> ok
[20:59] <abdullahfaqeir> my ubuntu font color and system setting background are missed up
[20:59] <abdullahfaqeir> the font's are white
[21:00] <abdullahfaqeir> and the background of sys set are black
[21:00] <EvilResistance> !enter | abdullahfaqeir
[21:00] <abdullahfaqeir> and the mouse pad has stoped suddnly
[21:00] <abdullahfaqeir> ok
[21:00] <bekks> shane2peru: Thats not a bug, because the module names are the same between kernels.
[21:01] <bkc_> abdullahfaqeir: are u in graphics-mode (gnome, kde, whatnot) or in terminal-mode ?
[21:01] <abdullahfaqeir> i don't know
[21:01] <shane2peru> bekks: ok, but for some reason the wireless is not loaded, or working
[21:01] <bkc_> abdullahfaqeir: is there anything but text on the screen?
[21:01] <MirkoKa> oszt: does the drive show up just as normal in nautilus, ie. you don't need some special access program. where is it mounted (under /media) if it differs, can you access the drive as the user with which you start wine?
[21:01] <shane2peru> bekks: I ran 'ifconfig -a' and it only showed eth0 and lo, nothing for wireless
[21:01] <oszt> MirkoKa, does it make a difference if the drive is mounted in linux or not? seem to recall unmounting it in linux some months ago and thus having it show up in wine?
[21:02] <bekks> Still, the names are the same, and the messages just told you, that there were modules built using dkms.
[21:02] <oszt> MirkoKa, no, it automounts and shows up in nautilus
[21:02] <bkc_> abdullahfaqeir: if it's an ontopic-question please keep it in the channel as others might gain from the answer
[21:02] <oszt> MirkoKa, and yes, I can access it with full permissions as the same user as the one running wine
[21:02] <bkc_> abdullahfaqeir: "how would I know" => does it look like dos?
[21:02] <abdullahfaqeir> ok
[21:03] <abdullahfaqeir> no
[21:03] <shane2peru> bekks: ok, what should be my next step, google pulls up a lot of stuff that is irrelevant
[21:03] <abdullahfaqeir> it's nice lovely ubuntu
[21:03] <abdullahfaqeir> but just in last day become like this
[21:03] <zsolt> hi there!i formatted accidently an mmc card.what to do to recover?
[21:03] <MirkoKa> oszt: if you tried to configure wine to use the device directly (ie. the USB config mentioned in the link I posted), then that might cause a conflict). remove any wine usb config for that disk and try to accesss it with the mountpoint->drive_letter method
[21:03] <bekks> shane2peru: Uninstall the old kernels you want to be uninstalled.
[21:03] <bkc_> abdullahfaqeir: then the xserver probably just hung, try pressing CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE :)
[21:03] <zsolt> thank you
[21:04] <shane2peru> beaks, ok, I did that, I left all but the last 3 or 4
[21:04] <abdullahfaqeir> it's doing anything
[21:04] <bekks> shane2peru: Now you should have much more space avail, dont you?
[21:04] <zsolt> tryed photorec,but got a really important stuff nad can't recover
[21:04] <zykotick9> bkc_: fyi c+a+backspace hasn't worked by default in a while
[21:04] <shane2peru> bekks: yes, space is great, I think it was something like 64% free for the inodes.
[21:04] <shane2peru> .
[21:05] <abdullahfaqeir> bk_ : ??? it didn't do anything
[21:05] <rasusto> zsolt: I would suggest photorec or testdisc
[21:05] <bekks> shane2peru: Then everything is ok :)
[21:05] <rasusto> zsolt: they come in the same package
[21:05] <shane2peru> bekks: however, it doesn't connect to the web now, I'm on my laptop
[21:05] <bkc_> zykotick9: ....... why the F*** would someone remove that functionality -.-
[21:05] <bekks> shane2peru: Then you removed more than you should.
[21:06] <bkc_> abdullahfaqeir: ctrl+alt+1 then
[21:06] <abdullahfaqeir> it just moved the window and make it smaller
[21:06] <bkc_> abdullahfaqeir: and then "sudo service gdm restart" (without the quotes)
[21:06] <abdullahfaqeir> ok
[21:06] <shane2peru> bekks; I don't think I did, I left the latest few kernels I think .37 .38 .39 and .40  however I'm not sure how to see what kernel it is booting off
[21:07] <zsolt> i tryed both,my problem is that got a lot of files
[21:07] <bekks> uname -a tells you which kernel is currently active
[21:07] <abdullahfaqeir> gdm: unrecognized service
[21:07] <zykotick9> bkc_: some accessibility reason actually ;)  how you feel now?  ;)  you can use alt+sysrc+k to restart Xorg
[21:07] <zsolt> i need to recover a password gorilla psafe3 file
[21:07] <oszt> MirkoKa, no, actually I haven't tried the usb patches nor built wine myself recently. at the moment I'm just running the 1.3 version packaged with ubuntu 11.10
[21:07] <zykotick9> s/sysrc/sysrq/
[21:07] <phibxr> abdullahfaqeir, which version are you running? 11.10 and 12.04 will have 'sudo restart lightdm' instead.
[21:07] <abdullahfaqeir> 11.10
[21:07] <zsolt> but got a lot of txt files and elf files
[21:07] <shane2peru> bekks: ok, but how do I select what kernel to boot?
[21:08] <bkc_> zykotick9: I hate ubuntu... seriously... -.-
[21:08] <zykotick9> bkc_: it's not an ubuntu thing - it's an xorg thing
[21:08] <bekks> shane2peru: in the grub menu
[21:09] <abdullahfaqeir> it's just restarted the desktop
[21:09] <abdullahfaqeir> please guys help
[21:09] <MirkoKa> oszt: sorry, I don't know further. I suggest you ask the Wine folks
[21:09] <abdullahfaqeir> I love ubuntu and i want to stay on it I don't want to go back to windows
[21:09] <shane2peru> beaks grub menu doesn't show on this, ubuntu was pre-installed, and I haven't messed with it hardly at all.
[21:10] <shane2peru> bekks: ˆˆˆ
[21:10] <oszt> MirkoKa, thank you for your time!
[21:10] <Tiktalik> what's a good music player
[21:10] <shane2peru> bekks: it booted off 2.6.32-41  so I'm thinking I'm going to boot off the old kernel to see if that works, once I figure out how.
[21:10] <oszt> Tiktalik, vlc
[21:10] <bkc_> abdullahfaqeir: restarting the desktop and still not working only proves that it wasn't hung :) there are still loads to try :P
[21:10] <abdullahfaqeir> ok
[21:11] <SunTsu> Tiktalik: depends on what you call good
[21:11] <abdullahfaqeir> give me every thing just make it work please buddy
[21:12] <minimec> Tiktalik: audacious is a simple and feature rich music player
[21:12] <shane2peru> I can't seem to see the boot menu on this dell inspiron mini with ubuntu pre-installed, anyone know how to do that??
[21:13] <cmon> a dumb question, but where can I see if my ubuntu is 64 bit or 32?
[21:14] <zykotick9> cmon: uname -m
[21:15] <MestreLion> Guys, I shot myself on the foot: removed myself from admin group, so no sudo. There are no other users in sudoers. What is the easiest, pain-free way to recover?
[21:15] <bkc_> abdullahfaqeir: seeing as my computer only hangs and the mouse actually works from scratch I can't really help you :( but I'd look into the xserver config-files to see if everything checksout okey, otherwise wait for someone else to help you :)
[21:15] <Tiktalik> MestreLion: Cry :P
[21:15] <MirkoKa> shane2peru: /etc/default/grub or /boot/grub/menu.lst depending on your Ubuntu version should have all the settings (probably timeout related)
[21:15] <bekks> MestreLion: Boot a live CD.
[21:16] <jackbrownhf> hi there
[21:16] <jackbrownhf> i need help about VINO on my machine
[21:16] <MestreLion> MirkoKa:  /boot/grub/menu.lst is not used anymore since 9.10
[21:16] <abdullahfaqeir> ok thanks
[21:16] <MestreLion> bekks: ok... and then?
[21:16] <minimec> MestreLion: boot your system in recovery mode and go to the root shell. You should have full root access.
[21:16] <bkc_> abdullahfaqeir: and please for the love of god, please stop with the pm's... unless otherwise stated or told, support-channels *hate* pm's as they are counterproductive to the "support"-idea -.-
[21:16] <jackbrownhf> Is there anybody available to help me about VINO in UBUNTU?
[21:17] <bekks> MestreLion: Follow mimimec and add yourself to the admin group again.
[21:17] <MirkoKa> MestreLion: that's why I said  "depending on your Ubuntu version".  i don't know (perhaps I missed yout post) what version the OP is running ;-)
[21:17] <MestreLion> minimec: and what groups should I add besides admin? do you know the defaults for 1st user in Ubuntu?
[21:17] <ihashacks>  7~
[21:17] <abdullahfaqeir> ok sorry
[21:17] <shane2peru> MirkoKa: yes, that is the old method, I liked that method, I'm not sure about this new grub2 stff
[21:17] <carpediembaby> hi.. just upgraded to 12.04 beta and seeing a problem.. is there another channel for that? or should i fire away ?
[21:17] <bkc_> jackbrownhf: nobudy likes a screamer, and what more specifically do you wanna know about vino?
[21:18] <shane2peru> anyone know how to configure grub2 so I can see my boot menu?  I'm running 10.04 ubuntu LTS
[21:18] <MestreLion> carpediembaby: #ubuntu+1
[21:18] <trism> carpediembaby: #ubuntu+1
[21:18] <MirkoKa> shane2peru: then just look into /etc/default/grub (pastebin it if you need assistance)
[21:18] <jackbrownhf> bkc_: i'm sorry, i just configuret it simply and it says that this machine it's available just from my private lan
[21:18] <bekks> MestreLion: You did more than just removing yourself from the adm group, dont you?
[21:18] <carpediembaby> thanks trism, MestreLion .. had forgotten it :)
[21:18] <bkc_> shane2peru: /etc/grub.d/00_default <-- look for waittime
[21:18] <jackbrownhf> bkc_: now i'm tryng to access it through a bridged virtual machine but i'm unable to do that
[21:18] <minimec> MestreLion: Well... Can't tell you right now... Let me verify that...
[21:19] <bkc_> jackbrownhf: do you have a firewall setup in your machine?
[21:19] <MestreLion> bekks: yes... I wanted to add a new group with usermod -G, and forgot the -a :P (yes, lame mistake, I know)
[21:19] <jackbrownhf> bkc_: yeah and i already put it down
[21:19] <bkc_> jackbrownhf: never shutdown the firewall as there might be lingering settings, open the port instead...
[21:19] <jackbrownhf> bkc_: the firewall is down
[21:19] <shane2peru> bkc_: nope, no 00_default only 00_header 05_debian_theme 10 linux  and a few others
[21:20] <bekks> MestreLion: adm, cdrom, sudo, dip, plugdev, lpadmin, yourusergroup