[12:14] <bojan> and i wish to fix'em
[12:14] <mutlu_inek> bojan: go to #Ubuntu+1
[12:15] <bojan> ok
[12:15] <khirr> guy
[12:15] <khirr> how can i install
[12:15] <khirr> JAVA VIRTUAL MACHINE}?
[12:15] <bojan> but i am not suing edgy
[12:15] <mutlu_inek> lol
[12:16] <khirr> ;S
[12:16] <khirr> why?
[12:16] <bojan> using*
[12:16] <khirr> ?
[12:16] <khirr> i've installed JRE
[12:16] <khirr> but, i need JVM
[12:16] <khirr> :S
[12:16] <goldphish> is there a way to make kubuntu stop asking for admin password without loggin in as root?
[12:17] <Hawkwind> goldphish: sudo -i is one way
[12:17] <Hawkwind> goldphish: You can also setup sudo to not ask for a password at all
[12:17] <T3hWiz0rd> !ati
[12:17] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:17] <khirr> pls
[12:17] <khirr> how can i install JVM?
[12:17] <Manyfold> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[12:17] <Manyfold> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[12:17] <Manyfold> no
[12:17] <Manyfold> checking for rpath... yes
[12:17] <Manyfold> *** Exited with status: 1 ***
[12:18] <Hawkwind> khirr: Patience.  When/If someone knows they will help you. No need to constantly repeat yourself
[12:18] <Hawkwind> !paste > Manyfold
[12:18] <Tm_T> !java > khirr
[12:18] <Hawkwind> Manyfold: Please use pastebin
[12:18] <khirr> ok
[12:18] <Hawkwind> Tm_T: He doesn't want java for a browser
[12:18] <Manyfold> yes
[12:18] <goldphish> Hawkwind, i think im a little off
[12:18] <Tm_T> Hawkwind: I see
[12:18] <goldphish> like if i go to system settings, i dont want it to ask for the password to do certain things
[12:19] <Tm_T> Anyway, I'm going to sleep, good night you all. ->
[12:20] <goldphish> so  its not really a sudo thing
[12:20] <Manyfold> http://rafb.net/paste/results/qxnfPh76.html <- autoconf gave me this what to do?
[12:20] <goldphish> possibly a kdesudo thing i dunno
[12:20] <Hawkwind> goldphish: If you setup sudo to never ask for a password, it won't do it in systemsettings either
[12:20] <goldphish> oh ok
[12:20] <Hawkwind> goldphish: I've got mine setup to never ask for a password
[12:20] <wildchild> ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the
[12:20] <wildchild>        Macromedia Flash Player installer.
[12:20] <Manyfold> i am trying to build a simple kde application
[12:20] <wildchild> :S
[12:20] <Hawkwind> goldphish: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=148.0  <~~Read the bottom. It has a part for Kubuntu sudo setup
[12:21] <Manyfold> or isn't kubuntu suiteble for development?
[12:21] <mutlu_inek> Manyfold: you have to install the kde development packages
[12:22] <Manyfold> mutlu_inek: what is the name of the .deb?
[12:22] <gybot> anyone knows how i can set up my router on kubuntu? i called the linksys people and they said they have no i dea on how to help me because i use linux
[12:22] <Hawkwind> Manyfold: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:22] <xavier> y does kubuntu run fsck everrry time it reboots for all my fat32 drives .. and doesnt fix any of them? whts the point? anyway .. how do i run fsck manually and correct the errors? it says they are mounted
[12:22] <Hawkwind> gybot: What do you mean by 'setup your router on Kubuntu'  ??
[12:22] <wildchild> ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the Macromedia Flash Player installer. Please help
[12:22] <mutlu_inek> Manyfold: kde-devel
[12:23] <Manyfold> Hawkwind: build-essentials are already installed
[12:23] <Hawkwind> wildchild: You have to use the 32bit version.  Flash isn't made for 64Bit
[12:23] <Hawkwind> Manyfold: So install the kde headers
[12:23] <mutlu_inek> Manyfold: but that would install all kde dev packages
[12:23] <wildchild> Hawkwind: so konqueror is ussless ?
[12:23] <Hawkwind> wildchild: Who said that ?
[12:23] <wildchild> for streaming..
[12:23] <Hawkwind> wildchild: As I stated, use the 32bit version of flash
[12:24] <gybot> i'm now directly connected to my MODEM, everytime i plug in the the router none of my computers can access the internet
[12:24] <wildchild> Hawkwind: but I am using 64bit linux..
[12:24] <Hawkwind> gybot: Then you need to reconfigure Kubuntu to use the router as the gateway instead of the modem
[12:24] <mutlu_inek> wildchild: the 64bit version won't work
[12:24] <Hawkwind> wildchild: You still have to use the 32bit version of flash.  You can 32bit apps on a 64bit OS
[12:25] <Hawkwind> There is no 64bit flash package
[12:25] <wildchild> I download it manually..
[12:25] <gybot> Hawkwind: anyway you can help me do that? :-)
[12:25] <wildchild> I don't even know there are flash packages...
[12:25] <Hawkwind> gybot: Easiest way is to hook up the router, boot Kubuntu, then go to systemsettings and then into the network setup.  It should detect it all for you
[12:26] <Hawkwind> !flash > wildchild
[12:26] <gybot> ok
[12:26] <gybot> loosing connection..... brb
[12:30] <Manyfold> it worked thank you
[12:31] <mutlu_inek> Manyfold: good to hear
[12:36] <craftycorner> hello?
[12:36] <wildchild> !gnash
[12:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:37] <craftycorner> was wondering if u could lend a hand.  I lost a program lol
[12:37] <wildchild> Hawkwind I followed the link u entered, but there aren't any instructions how to install gnash flash
[12:38] <T3hWiz0rd> !katapult
[12:38] <ubotu> katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[12:38] <craftycorner> I don't think it's risky, it's just a video capture program
[12:39] <wildchild> Hawkwind: never mind
[12:41] <mustech> is there a channel for xgl on kubuntu discussion
[12:42] <Hawkwind> mustech: #Ubuntu-XGL
[12:43] <gemidjy> hrm...where do I configure sound and other hardware comps. in Kubuntu Edgy ?, the Control Center (systemsettings) seems so minimalistic...
[12:44] <gemidjy> and I get  acpi-support depends on acpid (>= 1.0.4-1ubuntu4); however:
[12:44] <Chani> my friend just tried to stick an sd card in my laptop, and dmesg has some message about a new pcmcia thingy, but there was no magical mounting... I'm not really sure what might be wrong. does sd card stuff require extra software opr drivers usually?
[12:44] <gemidjy> Chani: no, just I can't find way to configure it
[12:49] <kolin> anyone here?
[12:49] <BluDog_Anchorite> nope
[12:50] <chrisX`> what is the differnce between 2.4 and 2.6 kernels
[12:50] <kolin> i was wondering something.  does kubuntu come with any type of icon editing program or anything
[12:50] <Chani> 2.4 is ooold
[12:50] <kolin> like i want to turn my blue trash into a grey trash
[12:50] <Chani> also, iirc 2.4 needs scsi emulation for cd burners
[12:50] <kolin> pretty trivial i know:)
[12:51] <BluDog_Anchorite> no idea
[12:51] <kolin> cause icons are just pictures aren't they/
[12:52] <T3hWiz0rd> t3hwiz0rd-server: rawr! stupid thing
[12:54] <bLaZeD> can anyone watch videos on here http://www.yikers.com/index.html ??..i cant get videos to work for the life of me...im starting to think its a linux thing
[12:55] <Skrot-> Hi. How can I tell alsa to use a specific sound card in kubuntu? I've got two.
[12:57] <osiris> bLaZeD, plays fine here
[12:57] <bLaZeD> huh
[12:58] <bLaZeD> what are u using to playy it?..fireofx and what plugin?
[12:58] <osiris> you have mozilla-mplayer
[12:58] <bLaZeD> hmm
[12:58] <bLaZeD> let me see
[12:58] <osiris> apt-cache search mplayer | grep mplayer
[12:59] <bLaZeD> osiris, yea i have it installed
[12:59] <BluDog_Anchorite> bLaZeD: (osiris here) thats what im using
[01:00] <BluDog_Anchorite> you mgiht need the win32codecs, but that should be it
[01:01] <steveire> bLaZeD: Can you play wmv on your harddrive?
[01:02] <bLaZeD> hmm i have win32codecs.....and i have the mozilla-mplayer installed
[01:02] <bLaZeD> steveire, yea i can
[01:02] <steveire> does about:plugins in firefox give anything?
[01:02] <bLaZeD> did u guys change any options in the mplayer plugin...
[01:03] <BluDog_Anchorite> nope
[01:03] <mutlu_inek> actually, I cannot play these either. and i have mplayer, mozilla-mplayer and w32-codecs installed, too
[01:03] <bLaZeD> mutlu_inek, ahh so im not alone ;)
[01:04] <mutlu_inek> sadly not ;)
[01:04] <bLaZeD> it starts to try and stream the video...then it just stops
[01:04] <bLaZeD> ....like i see it connect and try to buffer it...but then nodda
[01:04] <mutlu_inek> ^^ my player does not even load
[01:05] <steveire> bLaZeD: Try another video. And let it buffer 100%
[01:06] <bLaZeD> steveire, ive trid several vids..and i do let it go...i let it do its own thing till it says stopped and sits there
[01:09] <zen2_> anyone able to help
[01:09] <mutlu_inek> i just realized that firefox does not show mozilla-mplayer in about:plugins any more. reinstalling does not help. any idea?
[01:13] <mutlu_inek> the plugin just does not get registered in ~/.mozilla/firefox/pluginreg.dat
[01:13] <mutlu_inek> what do you entries look like? i could add them manually
[01:13] <stanleyds> ah. sent me here automatically
[01:13] <stanleyds> hello, everyone
[01:14] <stanleyds> let me get straight to the slaughter.... i wanna install the latest (stable) version of firefox. how?
[01:15] <cpk2> hmm i can see someone sent me a message but my buffer for the channel wasnt long enough =P
[01:16] <bLaZeD> mutlu_inek, here is my http://pastebin.ulteo.us/166
[01:16] <bLaZeD> *mine
[01:16] <stanleyds> umm.... did i come to the wrong channel?
[01:16] <bLaZeD> stanleyds, are u using kubuntu linux?
[01:16] <stanleyds> yeah
[01:17] <bLaZeD> then yes u are in the right place :)
[01:17] <stanleyds> oh.
[01:17] <bLaZeD> stanleyds, sudo apt-get install firefox
[01:17] <bLaZeD> wil install firefox
[01:18] <stanleyds> okay. lemme give that a go.... brb
[01:20] <sledge> Do the (k)ubuntu-kernel patches add drivers or interfaces that are necessary for the system to complete the boot phase?
[01:28] <jackrazz> Hey everyone, I'm trying kubuntu for the first time and have some version type questions.
[01:28] <stanleyds> cooool. works like a charm. thanks..... for part one.
[01:28] <jackrazz> First, I'm creating a usb stick that currently boots ubuntu server
[01:28] <jackrazz> I now need to uses aptitude to install kubuntu
[01:28] <jackrazz> there appears to be a minimal kubuntu and kubuntu-desktop available
[01:28] <jackrazz> does anyone know the differences?
[01:28] <jackrazz> I'm limited to 1 GB, so I don't want to go over.
[01:28] <steveire> what is the minimal version called?
[01:28] <jackrazz> don't remember, sorry I didn't write it down
[01:28] <steveire> Also, look into puppylinux or damnsmall linux
[01:28] <age1172> it says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26932/
[01:28] <steveire> well, jackrazz when you see it again, type aptitude show kubuntu-minimal or whatever
[01:28] <jackrazz> Not interested in puppy or other.  I want a full apt-get style install
[01:28] <jackrazz> ok, stevire, thanks
[01:28] <jackrazz> Wasn't there a seperate new kde desktop that was just released into the repositories for upgrading kubuntu
[01:28] <steveire> damn small linux is based on debian, which means apt-get style.
[01:28] <steveire> it has good community support too
[01:28] <jackrazz> 3.51 or whatever the latest is
[01:28] <steveire> 3.5.5? Dunno. I think I'm using it on edgy.
[01:28] <jackrazz> So I could install dsl and get synaptic to do whatever I want?
[01:28] <steveire> I don't know if it comes with synaptic. I assume it has at least aptitude.
[01:28] <jackrazz> I know what you mean, I'm in ubuntu edgy right now
[01:28] <steveire> Have a google. I'm afraid I haven't actually used it.
[01:28] <jackrazz> ok, steveire, thanks for the help
[01:32] <stanleyds> okaaay. part two: i wanna get some video up & runnin, so i wanna get me some codecs. should i use this libxine-extracodecs package thingy or do i have better options?
[01:35] <cpk2> stanleyds: you might have other options but I think libxine is probably the best
[01:35] <Skrot-> !codec
[01:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:36] <stanleyds> okay, i'll give libxine a shot first, then try that page. thx cpk & ubotu
[01:36] <bLaZeD> !restriced
[01:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restriced - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:36] <bLaZeD> !restricted
[01:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:37] <bLaZeD> Skrot-, ^^
[01:37] <cpk2> stanleyds: libxine will give you almost everything
[01:37] <cpk2> stanleyds: except i think windows media, which is also really easy to get
[01:37] <Skrot-> bLaZeD: Yes. Thanks. I asked ubotu in privmsg. Problem is; I can't seem to "force" amarok to use alsa.. it only wants to use OSS, which is sort of odd
[01:38] <bLaZeD> Skrot-, hmm sorry i cant realy help ya with amarok...as i dont use that as my media player...allthough amarok is preety slick
[01:39] <bLaZeD> Skrot-, is it JUST amaroknot givin sound....or is it everything
[01:40] <Skrot-> bLaZeD: mplayer -ao alsa works
[01:44] <age1172> that is xgl.desktop http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26939/
[01:44] <Skrot-> bLaZeD: Got it working
[01:44] <bLaZeD> Skrot-, ahh goo deal
[01:45] <bLaZeD> *good deal
[01:45] <Skrot-> aye
[01:45] <smarques> oi
[01:46] <smarques> alguem aqui???
[01:47] <unix_infidel> smarques: #ubuntu-es
[01:47] <unix_infidel> !ubuntu-es
[01:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-es - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:47] <unix_infidel> !#ubuntu-es
[01:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-es - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:48] <Hawkwind> !es
[01:48] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[01:49] <nzk> When is edgy coming out
[01:49] <unix_infidel> actually, that's brazillian.
[01:49] <unix_infidel> i shouldlve known better :)
[01:49] <unix_infidel> haha.
[01:50] <Hawkwind> !schedule > nzk
[01:51] <nzk> So how do I upgrade to edgy?
[01:52] <stanleyds> i'm havin trouble enabling the multiverse repository
[01:53] <stanleyds> i added multiverse to the universe repository line like the instrucs @kubuntu.org said, but that didn't work... even after i opened & closed adept again
[01:53] <cpk2> how did it not work?
[01:53] <cpk2> !work
[01:53] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[01:53] <cpk2> i love that line =P
[01:56] <main> Hi all
[01:56] <stanleyds> okaay... umm... in adept i went to view > manage repositories  and from there i added the word multiverse to the line that has the universe component, just as instructed. after doing that, clicking apply, then closing & re-opening adept, i found that libxine-extracodecs was still not in the list of packages
[01:57] <mutlu_inek> you have to fetch updates
[01:57] <Hawkwind> stanleyds: View your /etc/apt/sources.list and see if multiverse is there.  If it is, then do a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs from the terminal
[01:59] <BluesKaj> stanleyds:  you need to add a non free repos, check this out http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:00] <morbius> hello
[02:02] <soulrider> hi
[02:02] <soulrider> i just insert a DVD i had burned a long time ago on widnows
[02:02] <soulrider> but i cant read it =/
[02:03] <BluesKaj> !dvd
[02:03] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:05] <mutlu_inek> !edgy
[02:06] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[02:06] <soul_rider> damn, i gto dsiconnected
[02:06] <soul_rider> any ideas ofr my problem ?
[02:07] <soulrider> any ideas of why i cant read that DVD ?
[02:07] <manuel_> i need help with fire fox
[02:07] <soulrider> manuel_:  whats wrong
[02:08] <manuel_> i dont know how to install
[02:08] <soulrider> did you enable the universe amd multiverse repositories ?
[02:08] <BluesKaj> soulrider: you need the Libdvdcss at http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html
[02:09] <BluesKaj> and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:09] <soulrider> its not a movie
[02:09] <soulrider> its just data
[02:09] <BluesKaj> now he tells us
[02:09] <manuel_> iam new in linux i dont what is that
[02:10] <soulrider> i said a DVD, not a movie dVD
[02:10] <soulrider> manuel
[02:10] <soulrider> go to your kmenu
[02:10] <soulrider> and then add/remove programs
[02:11] <manuel_> and then what
[02:11] <soulrider> ok
[02:11] <soulrider> on the top right corner you will see two checkboxes
[02:11] <soulrider> enable them
[02:11] <BluesKaj> soulrider: when someone mentions DVD it's sorta understood that it's video
[02:12] <soulrider> well, i meant data :P sorry bout that
[02:12] <manuel_> ok thankyou soiurrider
[02:12] <soulrider> you found it ?
[02:13] <rawrness> anyone know how to play with vmplayer?
[02:13] <mutlu_inek> ? play ?
[02:14] <manuel_> did you cantell me where can istar to learn kubuntu
[02:14] <rawrness> perhaps not play
[02:14] <mutlu_inek> what do you need to know?
[02:14] <soulrider> manuel, espaol _
[02:14] <soulrider> ?
[02:14] <manuel_> everythink
[02:14] <rawrness> just plain use.
[02:14] <method|> is there a way to do multiperson chatting in kopete (aim protocol)?
[02:17] <manuel_> tu sabes espanol
[02:17] <BluesKaj> method|: have you tried aMSN?
[02:17] <BluesKaj> !es
[02:17] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[02:18] <method|> manuel_: nope
[02:21] <stanleyds> part three: video plays... audio&video seem to stay in sync but it plays a bit choppy when it plays anime (choppy enough to be annoying). playing in kaffeine. media player problem or video drivers problem?
[02:21] <soulrider> manuel, podemos hablar espanol pero por private message
[02:21] <soulrider> oops, he left :P
[02:23] <method|> gaim supports multiperson chatting
[02:23] <method|> if anyone cared
[02:23] <method|> lol
[02:23] <BluesKaj> so does irc
[02:24] <method|> this is true
[02:24] <method|> <--didn't want to explain to someone how to use irc
[02:24] <BluesKaj> as does aMSN
[02:43] <jbrouhard> Okay
[02:43] <jbrouhard> I'm trying to get Wireless to work on my Dell Inspiron 5150.
[02:44] <jbrouhard> it's an internal wireless, so.. why does it get picked up[
[02:44] <jbrouhard> but it won't enable ?
[02:44] <snook353> does anyone have streamtuner or kstreamripper?
[02:45] <snook353> i want to know how to get streamripper via streamtuner to use the kstreamripper gui
[02:46] <thompa> anyone using ktorrent, I have a basic question?
[02:46] <snook353> thompa, i do
[02:46] <BluesKaj> snook353: I have it but havent tried your idea
[02:46] <BluesKaj> yes thompa ...what's yer question
[02:46] <thompa> snook353: hi, i have some video i partially downloaded and when i play it it makes a loud noise every few secs
[02:47] <orient2000> maybe is is wireless simulator like winmodem :(
[02:47] <snook353> ok.  can you give to me preferences line - the original command?  i erased mine, blueskaj
[02:47] <thompa> im wondering if its because its incomplete or bad file or
[02:47] <BluesKaj> wait til it's totally DL'd
[02:47] <snook353> i wouldn't think that would have to much to do with ktorrent, thompa
[02:47] <thompa> snook353: i know
[02:48] <snook353> i have probs too, with audio/vid sync, sometimes, thompa
[02:48] <thompa> snook353:  thats what i had on one too
[02:48] <snook353> yeah...i'm waitin for mplayer pre8 to be deb'ed
[02:48] <BluesKaj> you should wait til you have the whole file before trying to play it
[02:49] <snook353> yeah, thompa
[02:49] <jbrouhard> Okay.. anyone help me with a kubuntu wireless issue ?? :(
[02:49] <thompa> BluesKaj: ok, its an mpg on computer history I need
[02:49] <thompa> i was wondering if its because its protected it makes that noise
[02:50] <BluesKaj> no, if just a partially DL'd file it won't play properly
[02:50] <thompa> thanks
[02:50] <snook353> blueskaj, i need to command that's somethin like x-terminal etc... in the preferences gui
[02:51] <thompa> edgy kubuntu working great as of todays update btw
[02:52] <BluesKaj> snook353: which mode in preferences?
[02:53] <snook353> edit-preferences-applications-record a stream
[02:53] <snook353> blueskaj
[02:53] <mutlu_inek> thompa: good to hear, i am just upgrading
[02:55] <BluesKaj> snook353:  x-terminal-emulator -e streamripper %q
[02:55] <snook353> thanks, blueskaj!  life-saver! :P
[02:55] <BluesKaj> NP :)
[02:57] <thompa> mutlu_inek: yep, it was a little unstable for a while
[02:58] <thompa> mutlu_inek: i mean my graphics were slow, now its really snappy
[02:59] <thompa> kmenu looks real nice now
[02:59] <stanleyds> okay, video plays (i'm playin xvid files)... audio&video seem to stay in sync but it plays a bit choppy when it plays anime (choppy enough to be annoying). played in both kaffeine and vlc. media player problem or video drivers problem?
[03:00] <bmo> anime _is_ choppy.
[03:00] <mutlu_inek> :)
[03:00] <thompa> lol
[03:00] <stanleyds> lol :P
[03:00] <bmo> :-P
[03:00] <thompa> stanleyds: did you do everything on restricted formats page
[03:00] <stanleyds> eh? restricted formats page?
[03:01] <thompa> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[03:01] <reinaldo> alguem pode me ajudar????????
[03:01] <thompa> stanleyds: i would do all the stuff here , takes about 10 minutes
[03:01] <mutlu_inek> !es
[03:01] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:02] <stanleyds> hmmm... gotcha
[03:02] <thompa> stanleyds: lots of folks miss something
[03:02] <thompa> then if it dont work its another problem
[03:04] <reinaldo> alguem fala portugus????????
[03:04] <BluesKaj> !pt
[03:04] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[03:05] <slop2> is there a way to set up a key combination to bring up the k menu?
[03:06] <reinaldo> #ubuntu-br
[03:09] <CaBlGuY> !konverter
[03:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konverter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:10] <archangel_> How can I get my ipod working with linux?
[03:11] <mutlu_inek> install amarok and plug it in
[03:11] <archangel_> hmmm
[03:11] <archangel_> k
[03:12] <ccherrett> I am trying to install linuxsampler from source but the make -f Makefile.cvs tells me: make: aclocal: Command not found
[03:13] <ccherrett> I can fine aclocal with adept
[03:13] <stanleyds> ooookay. went to restricted formats page. one of the things i gotta install is w32codecs. i downloaded the .deb file via wget and used the sudo dpkg command and got the message "dpkg: status database area is locked by another process"
[03:14] <mutlu_inek> close adept
[03:14] <stanleyds> ...me?
[03:14] <mutlu_inek> you can only have one apt program running
[03:14] <mutlu_inek> yes
[03:14] <stanleyds> ah. oh.
[03:14] <stanleyds> ohhhhh.
[03:14] <stanleyds> thx ^__^
[03:15] <CaBlGuY> we got Konverter on the devs?
[03:15] <slop2> is there a way to remove the main panel altogether?
[03:16] <ccherrett> I figured it out. It was in the automake package
[03:17] <CaBlGuY> slop2:  main panel, as in the....
[03:18] <slop2> the panel
[03:18] <slop2> CaBlGuY, with the k menu and all that
[03:18] <slop2> CaBlGuY, i want to remove it completely
[03:18] <slop2> CaBlGuY, but 'remove panel' is grayed out
[03:18] <CaBlGuY> Ohhh   U mean the taskbar..
[03:18] <slop2> yeah
[03:18] <slop2> i need it gone :D
[03:19] <slop2> i can hide it and all that, but i'd really like to just remove it
[03:19] <slop2> or make it permanently invisible
[03:19] <CaBlGuY> well, all you gotta do is right click on the bar itself and select options..  and do it there..
[03:19] <CaBlGuY> should be able to or..
[03:19] <TFrog> those interested in how to get Frostwire/Limewire working with Edgy Eft, i've posted a "How To" on both ubuntu and kubuntu forums
[03:19] <slop2> CaBlGuY, yeah...but 'Remove Panel' is grayed out
[03:19] <ccherrett> I am getting this error when trying to create my configure file: aclocal: configure.in: 231: macro `AM_PATH_ARTS' not found in library
[03:20] <archangel_> I plug my ipod in and kubuntu knows its name and everything......sweet
[03:20] <ccherrett> I assume it means that it cannot find arts. The reason I say that is I had a simmilar error for libtools abd installing libtools solved it.
[03:20] <CaBlGuY> you can use the hide automaticaly option.
[03:21] <ccherrett> now when I install arts it says it is the newest version
[03:21] <slop2> CaBlGuY, but then it comes up when you hit the edge of a screen...this computer is for my 4 year old...she doesn't need any panel for anything
[03:21] <slop2> if its not possible, i can live with it...i'd just really like to get rid of it
[03:22] <CaBlGuY> welthen, you should start to teach her about paNEL,S then.. she's old enough..
[03:22] <CaBlGuY> :)
[03:22] <slop2> haha
[03:22] <slop2> trust me, i can't wait :)
[03:22] <Zaire> anyone in here know a good easily understood by dumb@$$'s help for setting up mysql-server?
[03:22] <CaBlGuY> U know u can lock em..
[03:22] <CaBlGuY> OR..
[03:22] <CaBlGuY> you can make a new account just for her.. and she won't b able to do squat..
[03:23] <archangel_> Hey a dialog box popped up and it says mounting device. It is stuck at 0%.  why?
[03:23] <CaBlGuY> ;)
[03:23] <slop2> yeah...i just made it only 4 percent wide, and i have a window list applet...plus its hidden
[03:23] <archangel_> ipod says do not disconnect
[03:23] <slop2> CaBlGuY, already made her an account....i just wanted to get rid of the panel, but i guess it has one use, in case i need to find a lost window or something for her
[03:23] <ccherrett> Zaire: make sure that the permissions are set exactly like the mysql doc says in the install ation instructions
[03:24] <slop2> cool...this computer is 4yo friendly  :)
[03:24] <CaBlGuY> slop2: yep..   no biggy..  don't sress over the small stuff..
[03:24] <slop2> see ya!
[03:24] <ccherrett> then make sure you have your tmp dir set in my.cnf
[03:24] <CaBlGuY> :p
[03:24] <word> hmmm..where in the settings can i see information on what's plugged into my serial port?
[03:24] <ccherrett> that usually does it
[03:25] <Zaire> hmmm Im trying to setup a phpbb forum but I have yet to get the mysql DB to work with it
[03:25] <CaBlGuY> word:  open your home dir.   and on the left there's a little red flag..  click it and that'll show ya all the servcices ya got runnin..
[03:26] <slop> CaBlGuY, one more thing...
[03:26] <Zaire> cept Im running a plain cli server
[03:26] <slop> how do i make it so she can't right-click desktop icons?
[03:26] <ccherrett> how do I determine what package is the development packages for arts?
[03:27] <Zaire> Im also using putty to do all my setup
[03:27] <CaBlGuY> slop:  hmmmmm    configur desktop..   and click behavior, general, and right button @ the bottom
[03:28] <slop> CaBlGuY, already did that....thats for right clicking the desktop...you can still right click icons though
[03:29] <CaBlGuY> that's only thing I know to do with the right click slop saawwreee...
[03:29] <slop> CaBlGuY, np, thanks :)0
[03:30] <CaBlGuY> I'm sure there's a mouse configur dealy in the control center somewhere more then likely..
[03:30] <CaBlGuY> word:  you get that last message?
[03:35] <CaBlGuY> k im out..
[03:36] <archangel_> does my ipod have to mount first?
[03:37] <archangel_> casue its hang'n at 0%
[03:37] <archangel_> cause*
[03:38] <tacomantim> has anyone here used freemind?
[03:41] <archangel_> ipod help
[03:54] <BigIron> Hello I need a font viewer.
[03:58] <ccherrett> how can I upgrade my install of automake from 1.4 to 1.5 with apt?
[03:59] <ccherrett> is it possible?
[04:02] <stanleyds> hmmm... installed all that stuff... and tried it in mplayer along with the others.... no luck
[04:02] <stanleyds> video drivers maybe?
[04:02] <stanleyds> i have a nvidia geforce mx 4000
[04:03] <stanleyds> ahhhh, bump it. the wire is on
[04:03] <archangel_> anybody have a ipod working with linux?
[04:04] <mando> hello
[04:04] <mando> where can i update the source.list ?
[04:05] <archangel_> my ipod is recognized, but wont mount
[04:05] <pierreth_> Does someone knows Gnucash here?
[04:06] <mando> #eglug
[04:06] <mando> ops
[04:06] <mando> sorry
[04:06] <nzk> No burning to cd, installing, rebooting, NOTHING like that?
[04:07] <mando> how can i update adept please
[04:09] <mando> hmm no one here it seems
[04:10] <mando> time for intensive googling
[04:12] <Zaire> can someone please send me a link on how to setup mysqly-server
[04:15] <unix_infidel> Zaire: the mysql website has plenty of good docs.
[04:16] <mando> i need to update my adept repositories.. there was this website that generates the source.list file
[04:17] <suifur> mando: google source-o-matic
[04:17] <mando> yeah thats the one
[04:17] <mando> thank you :D
[04:20] <mando> and where was the source.list again ? *shy face*
[04:20] <jbrouhard> it's in /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:20] <mando> thanks
[04:24] <digivore> !version
[04:24] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[04:25] <digivore> !dapper
[04:25] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"
[04:25] <digivore> dapper is still the latest?
[04:25] <unix_infidel> latest stable yes.
[04:26] <digivore> if i change my PATH items, do i have to start a new session before the paths will be set?
[04:27] <Init5_> can someone help me around EasyUbuntu, they seem not to be active on #easyubuntu
[04:27] <unix_infidel> digivore: depends on how you setup path?
[04:28] <digivore> /etc/environment
[04:28] <unix_infidel> digivore: for the system?
[04:28] <pierreth_> I am not am to enter -1000 in gnucash
[04:28] <unix_infidel> or for the user, that really makes no sense.
[04:28] <unix_infidel> either way.
[04:29] <pierreth_> i can enter -900, it is OK
[04:29] <digivore> unix_infidel, what is the proper way?
[04:29] <unix_infidel> !path
[04:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about path - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:29] <mando> this can sound silly lol.. but are there any good games for linux?
[04:30] <Jucato> !games
[04:30] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[04:30] <mando> that bot just knows everything :D
[04:30] <Jucato> almost :)
[04:31] <jbrouhard> Okay
[04:31] <jbrouhard> anyone know why the ndiswrapper isn't available in edgy ?
[04:32] <Jucato> jbrouhard, if it isn't, you could probably try asking in #ubuntu+1
[04:33] <otaku-san> Hey!  When did KDE have it's tenth?  Today?
[04:33] <Jucato> otaku-san, Oct 14
[04:33] <otaku-san> Jucato: ahhhh Yesterday....to me
[04:34] <otaku-san> Jucato: hey what's up?
[04:34] <Jucato> otaku-san, 2 days ago for me :)
[04:34] <Jucato> what's up? hm... not much :)
[04:34] <otaku-san> hahaha...to much for me....you seen Hawkwind lately?
[04:35] <Jucato> not really. I haven't been online much for the past week
[04:37] <otaku-san> Jucato: Yeah...I was last on a few days ago....you heard about Debian creating new web browser over the Mozilla Suite one and Firefox?
[04:38] <Jucato> Iceweasel :)
[04:39] <otaku-san> Hahahahah!  Ya!
[04:39] <otaku-san> ....hope Ubuntu isn't affected
[04:39] <otaku-san> I'm a bit attached to my Firefox
[04:40] <Jucato> well, there will still be the option to use the source code directly from MozCo if ever that happens
[04:40] <otaku-san> might try em' tho....seems the only difference is just not using features that allow non-free stuff
[04:41] <otaku-san> MozCo....heard about that the other day...what is it?  I thought it was for cell phones...for some reasons
[04:41] <Jucato> I think they also did a bit more (added/removed features, security stuff...)
[04:41] <Jucato> MozCo = Mozilla Corporation
[04:41] <otaku-san> Hahahah duh!
[04:41] <otaku-san> *slaps forehead*
[04:42] <Jucato> :P
[04:42] <otaku-san> Have you used IceWeasel...or GnuZilla yet?
[04:42] <Jucato> nope. no reason to. I use Konqueror on Linux... but I haven't been on Linux for the past 7 days... *gasp*
[04:44] <Jucato> I'll probably give it a try though.
[04:44] <otaku-san> Jucato: Oh man!!!!  What were you doing?  Were you actually having a life?  ;)  Same here...why not try it...I use Opera...and some Mozilla...so why not IceWeasel?
[04:45] <otaku-san> Tho' IceWeasel sounds like it's meant for IceBox....
[04:46] <Jucato> heh
[04:46] <RadiantFire> it does doesn't it
[04:46] <RadiantFire> so entertaining
[04:46] <otaku-san> RadiantFire: when I heard about it...I was like....Debian?  Are they catering for IceBox?  hehehehe
[04:47] <bmo> "IceWeasel" sounds like a name coined by Pauly Shore
[04:47] <otaku-san> I still crack up at the name though....IceWeasel just does not hold the same umph like Firefox
[04:47] <otaku-san> Pauly Shore?
[04:48] <RadiantFire> otaku-san: more reason for the gnome folks to just go with epiphany
[04:48] <bmo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauly_Shore
[04:49] <RadiantFire> when i first heard they were looking for a rename Ii th ought they would name it something like "FlameWolf"
[04:49] <bmo> At his first Spring Break gig, he unleashed his catchphrase, "weasel," on the world.
[04:49] <RadiantFire> apparently they decided to go the full opposite way
[04:49] <otaku-san> RadiantFire: I installed Gnome...and for some reason all of the Gnome apps...are on my KDE side....I think it's because I'm using GDM...instead of KDM...
[04:50] <otaku-san> RadiantFire: http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/  (This explains the name orgins)
[04:50] <Jucato> otaku-san, what do you mean "on my KDE side"?
[04:50] <RadiantFire> maybe
[04:51] <RadiantFire> so I am very happy because bcm43xx works with my wireless card, I'm not so happy because its so insanely slow
[04:51] <bmo> jeez, he dated kylie minogue?!
[04:51] <otaku-san> Jucato: I mean when I use KDE....I have several different WM installed...so I say their all sides
[04:52] <RadiantFire> go him...
[04:52] <otaku-san> Jucato: if I use Gnome...I would say my Gnome side....
[04:53] <Jucato> otaku-san, yes I understand that. I was asking what you meant by the GNOME apps being on your KDE side? They are supposed to be seen both in GNOME and KDE
[04:53] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Good evening
[04:53] <Jucato> Hawkwind, hi! :)
[04:53] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: Nope, noone has seen Hawkwind lately :P
[04:53] <Jucato> lol
[04:54] <Jucato> Hawkwind, I'm confined to 2-3 more days of no Linux... :(
[04:54] <Hawkwind> Ohhh, no power supply yet ?
[04:54] <otaku-san> Jucato:  They are???  So all of the things meant for Gnome can be seen in KDE?  Like Epiphiny?
[04:54] <Jucato> and the worst part about using XP, is using XP on a system with only 258MB RAM...
[04:54] <Jucato> otaku-san, yes. and vice versa (KDE Apps should be visible in GNOME too).
[04:55] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: hehehe your so sly!  So do you have those icon sets up on your website?
[04:55] <Jucato> Hawkwind, the "technician" has a different "theory" as to what's wrong. And him not knowing much (or anything at all) about Linux (he calls it "lie-nux")...
[04:55] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: http://SeerOfSouls.net/gallery   They are there if you want to look at them.  They are uploaded individually though
[04:55] <Jucato> Hawkwind, he says that the "problem" is the "OS"
[04:56] <otaku-san> Jucato: makes sense now....when I installed Gnome...I saw all of the Gnome apps in my KMenu...and was like...why?
[04:56] <Homer> yeah one thing is many GNOME apps are better then their KDE counterparts and visa versa
[04:56] <Homer> so alot of people use both
[04:56] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Hah.  Just go buy yourself a PSU and swap it out real quick.  Takes about 10 minutes
[04:57] <otaku-san> Homer: Ya...like Gimp!
[04:57] <Jucato> Hawkwind, I don't have enough hardware know-how to do that
[04:57] <Homer> yeah GIMP/Inkscape
[04:57] <Jucato> the GIMP... I missed playing with that little suckah! :)
[04:57] <otaku-san> Jucato: oh all things to reinstall in a box...the PSU is the simplist!
[04:57] <Hawkwind> Jucato: You don't need know how.  It's removing a couple of screws, pulling it out, putting the new one, replacing the screws
[04:57] <Jucato> ... and making sure that the connections are correct...
[04:58] <otaku-san> of* and simplest
[04:58] <otaku-san> Jucato: and you use Linux?
[04:58] <Homer> an qt-gtk toolkit makes both gnome and kde applications look ... exactly the same
[04:58] <Jucato> it might be the "simplest", but it's the scariest for me, because it's dealing with electricity
[04:58] <Hawkwind> Jucato: They are all labeled and only have one way they can go actually :)
[04:58] <Hawkwind> Jucato: LOL.  Make sure you unplug it completely :P
[04:58] <Blacken> Question. I've got a directory of files. I need to rename all of them to "foo###.bar", where ### is incremented for every file.
[04:58] <otaku-san> Homer: K14 for me on vector stuff
[04:58] <Blacken> Does anyone know of a way to do this? Shell-based, preferably (sshing)
[04:58] <Homer> I think inkscape is more featureful
[04:59] <Jucato> otaku-san, is Karbon now as usable as Inkscape?
[04:59] <Hawkwind> Blacken: The guys in #Bash could tell you real quick
[04:59] <Blacken> Hawkwind: Probably true.
[04:59] <max_> can anyone help me update to Edgy Eft?
[04:59] <otaku-san> Homer: ya....but the really sad layer thing at the bottom...erks me in Inkscape
[04:59] <Homer> I think you can customize all the toolbar and stuff
[04:59] <Jucato> otaku-san, layer thing at the bottom?
[05:00] <otaku-san> Jucato: They're about even....the layer controls for pictures...is a bit lacking
[05:00] <Jucato> Hawkwind, is it really possible that "the OS" can make your PC not power on at all? even if the hard disk is already disconnected?
[05:00] <Hawkwind> Blacken: This isn't correct for you, but it will get you close:
[05:00] <Hawkwind> Blacken: N=1 ;for X in $(find /misc/Icons5/ -name *.png ) ;do Q=`basename $X` ;N=$(( $N + 1 )) ;mv $X /misc/Icons-New17/$N$Q ;done
[05:00] <Blacken> Hawkwind: Hm, makes sense. Thanks.
[05:00] <Jucato> hm... maybe K14 1.6... last time I tried to use Karbon14, I gave up and used Inkscape instead
[05:01] <Hawkwind> Blacken: Probably just substitute directories and then change mv to cp or something
[05:01] <Hawkwind> Jucato: It's possible, but highly unlikely.  I'd check all connections in the box
[05:01] <Hawkwind> Jucato: If it's not powering on at all, then it's most likely the power supply
[05:01] <Jucato> Hawkwind, the box won't even power up if I remove all IDE connections...
[05:02] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Then you can bet it's a power supply
[05:02] <Jucato> you know the weird part about it?
[05:02] <Jucato> it's working in his shop (internet/cyber cafe)
[05:02] <Hawkwind> At all times ?
[05:02] <Jucato> but not at home (mine and his)
[05:02] <Jucato> well, according to him
[05:03] <Hawkwind> Yeah, definitely a power supply then
[05:03] <Jucato> he says that he's going to monitor it for 2-3 days. if it works there, he's going to reformat my HD because it's probably "the OS" causing the problem
[05:03] <Jucato> but really, I find the reasoning a bit dubious... :(
[05:03] <Hawkwind> It's probably not completely dead. So moving it around makes it just right so it works.  Moving it again causes it to move around and not be *just right* so it won't work
[05:04] <Hawkwind> Jucato: I'd take it to someone else
[05:04] <Jucato> lol yeah
[05:04] <max_> hi, could anyone help me upgrade to edgy eft
[05:04] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Seriously....you could really change it yourself.  You can't go wrong
[05:04] <Jucato> max_, you really need to upgrade right now?
[05:04] <Hawkwind> max_: You do know it's not final nor stable yet ?
[05:04] <max_> yes
[05:04] <Hawkwind> max_: It still breaks on a daily basis
[05:04] <Jucato> Hawkwind, oh, you don't know how many times I've gone wrong :)
[05:05] <max_> yes i know
[05:05] <Hawkwind> max_: Talk to the guys in the Edgy channel, #Ubuntu+1
[05:05] <max_> and Hawkwind, thaks for the other day, what you said got p7zip workin
[05:05] <max_> thanks
[05:05] <otaku-san> max_: and good luck!
[05:05] <max_> thank you
[05:05] <Hawkwind> Jucato: I thought the same thing when it came to working on my PC the first time years back.  Now it's a piece of cake
[05:06] <otaku-san> I like to take apart my boxen once in alwhile for fun
[05:06] <Hawkwind> Jucato: That's how I got my Texans/Dolphins tickets this year.  Helped my neighbor build a new box.  He went from a 350MHz PC to a 2.8GHz Pentium D dual core
[05:06] <otaku-san> *awhile
[05:06] <Jucato> Hawkwind, well, this wouild be my first time, and my only box. so I'm a bit nervous to do it on my own
[05:06] <Jucato> wow
[05:06] <Hawkwind> Jucato: What's funny about it is, I only went with him to the store to pick out the right parts.  He assembled everything.  Then I setup XP Pro and dual monitors.  Did nothing more
[05:07] <Jucato> well, I'm a bit familiar with changing/replacing RAM, hard disks and CD-ROM's, video cards, etc. not yet with power supplies
[05:07] <Hawkwind> Jucato: So he bought me the tickets for helping him get the right stuff and setup with XP Pro with a corporate key :)
[05:07] <Jucato> heh
[05:07] <Hawkwind> Jucato: If you can change those, then you can surely change a power supply.    It's just a matter of plugging in the power adapters from your drives
[05:08] <pierreth> Where can I have help about Gnucash?
[05:08] <otaku-san> OH, and make sure you touch a side of the metal case...so you don't fry stuff
[05:08] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Demand you want a new PSU, simple as that
[05:09] <Hawkwind> And don't wear socks if it's cold while working on the box :P
[05:09] <Jucato> hm.. that might take a few more days, though. oh well :)
[05:09] <Jucato> hm... cold... what's that? :)
[05:09] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: .....your a crazy man....all those icons...so much uploading!
[05:10] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Not sure.  The northern parts of the USA talk about it all the time.      Hmmm familiar territory...grew up there
[05:12] <Jucato> specially hardware and networking stuff...
[05:12] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: These aren't icon sets like for KDE and such really.  They are just icons I've found on the net over 5 years
[05:12] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: I've lived here for 32 out of my 35 years of life unfortunately :(
[05:12] <Jucato> Hawkwind, have you made KDE 3.5.5 already available in SoS?
[05:12] <Hawkwind> Jucato: For Dapper ?
[05:12] <Jucato> or for Mandriva :P
[05:12] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: HAHAHAHA oh man...I feel for you...it's not that bad tho'....traffics a .....well a bad word
[05:13] <digivore> !xine
[05:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:13] <Hawkwind> I'm not that experienced at building debs quite yet and haven't had the 2 - 3 days to spare to build it for Mandriva
[05:13] <digivore> !xine-lib
[05:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine-lib - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:13] <Hawkwind> digivore: libxine-extracodecs maybe ?
[05:13] <notech> i'd do more than just touch the case when working in a box. use a grounding strap
[05:14] <Hawkwind> notech: You hold up a grounding rod too :P
[05:14] <notech> only in lightning :)
[05:15] <otaku-san> heard having the PSU on while it's in the box helps to ground it...or something
[05:15] <Jucato> a few days ago, my sister's unit (the one I'm using right now) was "grounded" so I had quite a shocking experience...
[05:16] <Jucato> that's why I'm not so keen on touching the PSU recently..
[05:16] <digivore> what do you do with a .deb file?
[05:16] <notech> sounds like it wasn't grounded
[05:16] <Jucato> but anyway, I just needed/wanted to confirm if Linux/Kubuntu/an OS can really do that to PC
[05:17] <otaku-san> Jucato: hehehe poor man...no wonder PSUs freak you out
[05:17] <linuxbomb> ground strap hahahahahha
[05:17] <digivore> what does it mean when a file is in red text in a directory listing ?
[05:17] <notech> if you want to chance frying parts, don't use one. your choice.
[05:17] <Jucato> I mean, if an OS could cause the system not to power up/on even if the hard disk isn't connected... @_@
[05:18] <notech> bad link is red
[05:18] <linuxbomb> Jucato: hell no
[05:18] <Jucato> digivore, a broken link afaik
[05:18] <linuxbomb> ok no freaking way unless it flashed the bios
[05:19] <Jucato> well, we did have several and abrupt power interruptions/fluctations before my box started fscking up. that's why I'm presuming it's a PSU issue
[05:19] <linuxbomb> if it has 12 and 5 and 3.3 volts and no sign of life then its the cpu / motherboard
[05:19] <notech> might need a better surge protector
[05:20] <Jucato> notech, might need a better voltage regulator or even a UPS... :(
[05:20] <Jucato> linuxbomb, um.. run that by me again, in plain English?
[05:20] <linuxbomb> if it has 12 and 5 and 3.3 volts and no sign of life then its the cpu / motherboard
[05:21] <linuxbomb> Jucato: ya got a voltmeter?
[05:21] <notech> i was getting power disruptions so bought a UPS and the power has only gone off once since
[05:21] <Jucato> notech, heheh
[05:21] <Jucato> linuxbomb, um nope?
[05:22] <linuxbomb> Jucato: then why are you trying to fix a computer?
[05:22] <Hawkwind> linuxbomb: He's not
[05:22] <notech> i'll bet it was a store bought pc, ready built. those usually have very small and cheap power supplies
[05:24] <Jucato> ??? :(
[05:24] <Jucato> notech, it wasn't bought ready built. this "technician" neighbor of mine bought it for me and assembled it
[05:25] <linuxbomb> What ya think of the pentium M dual core processors ?
[05:25] <notech> ah, i see. well i don't run any power supplies with less than 500 watts
[05:25] <Jucato> lol... this one is 300W only :)
[05:26] <notech> not enough in my opinion
[05:26] <linuxbomb> Jucato: what processor do you have?
[05:26] <Jucato> AMD Sempron 2200 (1.5 GHz)
[05:26] <linuxbomb> the processor might eat up 130 watts max
[05:27] <notech> might be able to just pull the power supply and take it to a local shop and have them test it
[05:27] <linuxbomb> notech: do you have a paper clip?
[05:28] <Jucato> AMD Sempron 2200 (1.5 Ghz), 2 pcs. 512MB DDR-RAM, NVIDIA GeForce 4 MX, 2 Hard disks, 1 CD Writer, 1 DVD-ROM <--- what I have connected
[05:28] <notech> for what?
[05:28] <linuxbomb> jumper the purple wire to the black wire on the power supply
[05:28] <linuxbomb> white to black sorry
[05:28] <Hawkwind> linuxbomb: It's not notech that has a faulty PSU
[05:28] <Hawkwind> LOL
[05:28] <Hawkwind> So you're telling the wrong person
[05:29] <linuxbomb> oops
[05:29] <Jucato> notech, yeah, probably. I just brought it to the guy who bought and assembled it for me first. but it seems that he's blaming "the OS"
[05:29] <notech> he's not wanting to do something he's not sure about. taking it in to be tested is easiest for him
[05:29] <Jucato> linuxbomb, I don't have the box with me right now... it's still with the "technician"
[05:29] <Jucato> this sucks... really... :(
[05:29] <linuxbomb> if you jumper those then the power supply should come on unless its dead , ie the fan will turn
[05:30] <King_Brad> how would i "start a new session in nested window" in kde? (or a diffrent nix disto)
[05:31] <Jucato> King_Brad, a new session in a nested window, you'd probably need something like Xnest or Xephyr (not sure which is better)
[05:31] <bmo> xnest
[05:31] <King_Brad> i c
[05:31] <Jucato> for a different *nix distro, you'd be better of with using VMWare
[05:31] <King_Brad> is that avail in kubuntu?
[05:31] <bmo> it's available for all computers that use x
[05:32] <Hawkwind> King_Brad: sudo apt-get install vmware-player
[05:32] <King_Brad> Jucato: i have opensuse on a server in my workshop that supports xdmcp and i would like to use a "nested window" login so i can admin it from my desk...
[05:32] <Jucato> I miss my PC... :(
[05:32] <King_Brad> thats why i ask :)
[05:32] <Jucato> King_Brad, ah that's a different case :)
[05:32] <King_Brad> :)
[05:32] <i\o> Adept says that another program is running so it can't.. but there isn't one.. how can I fix that?
[05:33] <King_Brad> no worries, i like kubuntu
[05:33] <King_Brad> just need opensuse for my thinserver :)
[05:33] <Jucato> i\o, type this in Konsole: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:33] <i\o> Jucato, thanks!
[05:34] <Jucato> lol aseigo's dancing around :)
[05:35] <Jucato> it's during times like these that I wish some KDE apps were cross platform... :(
[05:36] <King_Brad> welp i got xnest installed.... but cant launch it from run command....
[05:36] <King_Brad> wts?
[05:36] <Jucato> King_Brad, I think you need some arguments to go with Xnest
[05:36] <King_Brad> ahhh
[05:36] <King_Brad> there we go
[05:37] <Jucato> not really sure how to do it.
[05:37] <King_Brad> Xnest is the run cmd
[05:37] <King_Brad> now to find out the switches
[05:38] <soundmaster80> i was just wondering if edgy is still on track to be released this month
[05:39] <Jucato> I think so, yes
[05:39] <soundmaster80> is there a timeline anywhere on it?
[05:39] <Jucato> !schedule
[05:39] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[05:39] <soundmaster80> i can't seem to find it on the site
[05:39] <Jucato> soundmaster80, ^^^^^^
[05:39] <King_Brad> wow
[05:40] <Blacken> That was the strangest thing I have seen in quite some time. I added a user to my machine...and /home got chmodded 700.
[05:40] <King_Brad> xdmcp really works
[05:40] <King_Brad> without any config'ing
[05:40] <soundmaster80> another thing
[05:40] <soundmaster80> does anyone in here use jinzora for music
[05:41] <Blacken> Okay, so user permissions are confusing me here. I need ~/public_html to be visible to all users (or at least to the apache user) but I don't want ~ visible to people. Can this be done without a kludge?
[05:41] <Dr_willis> never heard of it
[05:41] <Jucato> Blacken, just change the permission for ~/public_htm only?l
[05:42] <soundmaster80> well, i don't think it's the problem that i think about it...i have been trying to use the flash xspf player and it doesn't appear, however it is supposed to work with flash player 7
[05:43] <soundmaster80> i realize this isn't the place for it. i just wondered if anyone else has had issues with it
[05:43] <Dr_willis> Mark Shuttleworth Becomes the First Patron of KDE      http://dot.kde.org/1160932072/
[05:43] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:43] <Jucato> Dr_willis, yeah :)
[05:43] <Jucato> kool ain't it? :)
[05:43] <Dr_willis> well if i was a Multi-ba-zallionare....
[05:43] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:44] <King_Brad> what did he donate alot of $$$ to the kde foundation or somethin?
[05:44] <soundmaster80> it seems odd that gnome is the main desktop when the founder is more inclinded to use KDE
[05:45] <Jucato> soundmaster80, he started Ubuntu years ago. and he uses GNOME on his laptop (which he uses more than his desktop, which is KDE)
[05:45] <tehpwnz0r> u like kde or gnome better?
[05:45] <Dr_willis> King_Brad,  yea. hes now the first 'kde' patron. i guess that means he will be investing $$$ for some time.
[05:45] <soundmaster80> kde, no questions and hands down
[05:45] <King_Brad> i think gnome is a little better
[05:45] <King_Brad> for stability
[05:45] <tehpwnz0r> i like gnome better
[05:45] <King_Brad> kde looks better tho
[05:45] <tehpwnz0r> its less apple like
[05:45] <tehpwnz0r> its akward gui
[05:45] <soundmaster80> from my experience kde is much more customizeable
[05:45] <tehpwnz0r> i like gnome terminal
[05:46] <Dr_willis> I find using gnome to be like  having one arm tied down...
[05:46] <soundmaster80> exactly
[05:46] <Jucato> ok let's not get into too much -offtopic here :)
[05:46] <tehpwnz0r> how do i connect to other roms or servers,a dn how do i get the server list
[05:47] <soundmaster80> lol, yeah i didnt mean to start a arguement
[05:47] <tehpwnz0r> *rooms
[05:47] <Hawkwind> tehpwnz0r: /join #Channel
[05:47] <Jucato> tehpwnz0r, to join other rooms, /join #channel
[05:47] <BluDog_Anchorite> tehpwnz0r: /list
[05:47] <Jucato> to get a list of available rooms /list
[05:47] <soundmaster80> does anyone in here use amarok for their ipod?
[05:47] <Jucato> and get ready to lag
[05:47] <Hawkwind> tehpwnz0r: You can do /list or /msg chanserv list *search-term* with the *'s to look for channels with certain words in them
[05:48] <soundmaster80> i am curious to see if anyone can personally compare it to itunes?
[05:49] <Dr_willis> not me.. i wont buy an ipod.. and i wont touch itunes. :)
[05:50] <soundmaster80> well, the ipod is the easiest for podcasts and mp3 by far IMHO...however when i move to Linux i will have to find something sutible
[05:50] <orient2000> ipoder?
[05:50] <soundmaster80> no, that just downloads them
[05:51] <soundmaster80> the thing about itunes is that i just plug it in and that's it
[05:51] <soundmaster80> i configure obviously but afterwards it's just plugging in
[05:51] <orient2000> is itunes on adept?
[05:51] <unix_infidel> lol.
[05:51] <unix_infidel> now that's a goodone :P
[05:52] <soundmaster80> lol
[05:52] <King_Brad> what window manager does kubuntu use?
[05:52] <King_Brad> kdm?
[05:52] <orient2000> thre is nothing from windows in here
[05:52] <Jucato> King_Brad, KWin
[05:52] <King_Brad> k
[05:52] <King_Brad> thx
[05:53] <CVirus> King_Brad: Kubuntu uses KDE as its Desktop Environment, while KDE uses Kwin as its window manager
[05:53] <King_Brad> KWin and Kwin arent isntalled on my system.... but kdm is...
[05:53] <orient2000> KDE is like windows like
[05:53] <King_Brad> so i guess kdm would be my window manager...
[05:53] <King_Brad> ah
[05:53] <King_Brad> all lowercase
[05:54] <King_Brad> thx guys
[05:54] <Jucato> King_Brad, no. KDE = K Desktop Environment, KWin = KDE Window Manager, KDM = KDE Display Manager
[05:54] <King_Brad> almost got this xnest figured out
[05:54] <Jucato> King_Brad, yeah, Linux is very case sensitive
[05:54] <morghanphoenix> what's the dpkg end tag to fix dependancies
[05:55] <King_Brad> yea i noticed hehe
[05:55] <unix_infidel> orient2000: soon the wine project will be able to run itunes.
[05:56] <unix_infidel> not necessarily wine, but maybe cxoffice
[05:56] <orient2000> what happen if I choose grub manager in kdm?
[05:56] <King_Brad> umm, in this tutorial i am reading on how to use xnest, he says to use twm (the window manager) but, says any windows manager will work.. ayways, he says to use twm -display :2 to launch the xnest session
[05:56] <King_Brad> but when i do this, it tells me it cannot connect to display :2
[05:56] <King_Brad> any idea where i am going wrong?
[05:57] <argonautico> hi to all
[05:58] <Homer> it's possible to use gdm instead of kdm right?
[05:59] <Jucato> Homer, yes, but I don't think you'd be able to have some features like Restart or Shutdown when you're in KDE and you used GDM. not 100% sure
[05:59] <Jucato> orient2000, you get options to restart your system to a specific entry in your GRUB/menu.lst. I haven't gotten it to work, though
[06:00] <Jucato> I guess it only works if GRUB is installed in MBR of hda
[06:00] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  i think you hafe to enable that feature
[06:00] <argonautico> I trying to use morpheus with wine but it the icon just keeps bouncing and does nothing
[06:01] <unix_infidel> argonautico: there are a lof ot FT p2p apps out there.
[06:01] <Jucato> Dr_willis, orient2000 was asking what "enabling that feature" does
[06:01] <unix_infidel> you dont need morpheus.
[06:01] <orient2000> I have only one HD and only kubuntu. You think I shoud restart (boot) with no problem?
[06:02] <orient2000> other HD with windows are enabled for the last 3 months.
[06:02] <orient2000> sorry, they are disabled.
[06:03] <orient2000> I do not want to screw my system.
[06:03] <Jucato> orient2000, I don't think that setting touches GRUB or menu.lst directly. but like I said, I'm not sure because I haven't gotten it to work, even if I enabled it in KDM (Login Manager in System Settings)
[06:04] <stanleyds> found the prob. was the drivers. installed the nvidia drivers and everything plays beautifully now..... and if i didn't know any better... it looks like it's playin better than it did in xp. this is kickass stuff.
[06:04] <Homer> I actually really like the enlightenment display manager
[06:04] <Homer> brb
[06:10] <argonautico> so, what program should you suggest to me?
[06:13] <Lam_> where's the trash folder located in kde?
[06:14] <thompa> kubuntu edgy is amazing
[06:15] <thompa> everything running real fast now
[06:15] <OOD> can anyone send me an edgy sources.list file?
[06:16] <intelikey> good howdy do.
[06:16] <thompa> OOD: go through your sources.lst and change 'dapper' to 'edgy' the whole way through
[06:17] <OOD> hah, i forgot to press the apply button *slaps self*
[06:17] <intelikey> any somebody might answer me, howto get applications in the twm menu ?
[06:17] <thompa> OOD: are you running nvidia by chance
[06:17] <T3hWiz0rd> there we go
[06:17] <T3hWiz0rd> screened irssi sessions... yummy
[06:17] <T3hWiz0rd> cc/clear
[06:17] <T3hWiz0rd> wow
[06:17] <T3hWiz0rd> hmmm
[06:18] <thompa> OOD: then run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:18] <OOD> yeah it's all fine now
[06:18] <intelikey> irssi is "screened" by default.   no?
[06:18] <T3hWiz0rd> intelikey: no
[06:18] <T3hWiz0rd> intelikey: i forgot to do it lol
[06:18] <thompa> OOD: i had big problems getting nvidia, xorg, and restricted modules setup
[06:19] <intelikey> you mean irssi running in screen ?
[06:19] <thompa> but i hope its fixed now
[06:19] <OOD> i had a problem with todays update
[06:19] <OOD> screwed my edgy install completely
[06:19] <thompa> OOD: are you running nvidia
[06:19] <OOD> i just got it back up after hours of waster time
[06:19] <intelikey> it has it's place, it's place is just not on my box.
[06:19] <OOD> yes, but it wasn't an nvidia specific problem
[06:19] <OOD> at least i dont think it is
[06:19] <thompa> id like to know if nvidia-glx is installable
[06:20] <OOD> it is
[06:20] <thompa> i had a total mismatch, it was installing the wrong packages and i had to manually purge stuff
[06:20] <orient2000> If you are the only user you can do ALT F2 kdm and aotorestrt so you can boot with no password. Do not click apply, click OK and then reboot. Apply will black out your screen and you have to reset. I guess it is some kind of error. I am happy to reboot with no password now.
[06:21] <intelikey> orient2000 i have passwordless consoles  :)
[06:22] <orient2000> same way?
[06:22] <intelikey> no
[06:22] <intelikey> has to be an init script
[06:22] <orient2000> how did you do it?
[06:23] <orient2000> more? what script?
[06:24] <intelikey> not a good way. but a line in /etc/rc.local like this will give you the idea. "su - <username> -- openvt -fc 24 "
[06:25] <intelikey> it's [right-alt] +[f12]   for quick access to it.
[06:25] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> intelikey: hope there isn't a policy about duplicate sessions in here.
[06:25] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> intelikey: im logged in 3 times lol
[06:25] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> intelikey: t3hwiz0rd-ibook, T3hWiz0rd, t3hwiz0rd-server
[06:25] <intelikey> not that i know of.  but clones are frowned upon in irc in general.
[06:25] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> intelikey: why?
[06:26] <intelikey> because of all the script/bot attacks
[06:26] <intelikey> when one ip logs in more than twice it's often a sign of up comming scripts
[06:27] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> intelikey: im not botting though i just rotate between 3 computers often lol
[06:27] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> intelikey: well if anyone ever warns me i'll always take one offline
[06:28] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> brb
[06:28] <intelikey> like i said i don't know of any policy in here.   but you can check the webpage   it's in the greeting message when you connect.
[06:28] <t3hwiz0rd-server> hmmm
[06:28] <intelikey> any somebody might answer me, howto get applications in the twm menu ?
[06:28] <intelikey> my twm menu is all but blank.
[06:29] <t3hwiz0rd-server> i may just keep this shell open and use it on my ibook
[06:29] <t3hwiz0rd-server> i am becomming too much of a shell junkie anyway
[06:30] <intelikey> nobody ?
[06:31] <Dr_willis> Heh
[06:31] <Dr_willis> i thogh twm read stuff in a directory
[06:31] <t3hwiz0rd-server> Dr_willis: are you laughing at me foo
[06:31] <Dr_willis> i aint used it in years
[06:32] <Dr_willis> No manual entry for twm
[06:32] <Dr_willis> Blasphmy!
[06:32] <intelikey> lol
[06:32] <intelikey> doc you don't have twm installed
[06:32] <Dr_willis> http://www.uwo.ca/its/doc/hdi/x11/x4-twm.html
[06:32] <Dr_willis> thats possible. :P
[06:33] <Dr_willis> i perfer wmx for a uber-light window manager
[06:33] <Dr_willis> but it aint been updated in years...
[06:34] <intelikey> how light ?
[06:34] <t3hwiz0rd-server> as light as a fat girl on atkins
[06:34] <Dr_willis> I thnk the whole source is less tehn a mb.. and it compiles in like 10 sec.
[06:34] <intelikey> twm  Size: 95448
[06:34] <intelikey> bites
[06:35] <intelikey> that's not source tho
[06:35] <Dr_willis> theres some option needed to compule wmx however with the new gcc's i forget what it is.
[06:35] <Dr_willis> wmx gets its menu from a directory.. put softlinks/scripts in there to get your menu.
[06:35] <Dr_willis> Its nifty in that it has 'sideways' title bars. :)
[06:35] <Dr_willis>  $HOME/.twmrc  and theres a system wide twmrc it seems
[06:36] <intelikey> hmmm well twm is functioning properly and i like twm ok (as much as i use a gui hehhe)  but it's menu is bare.
[06:37] <intelikey>  /usr/lib/X11/twm/system.twmrc  <<--- that one ?
[06:37] <Dr_willis> usr/share/doc/twm/examples
[06:37] <Dr_willis> seems to have some also.
[06:37] <Dr_willis> :P im just reading the man pages and looking. Lol
[06:38] <intelikey> k
[06:38] <intelikey> me too
[06:38] <Dr_willis> grrr my fileserver is down! argh!
[06:38] <Dr_willis> hmm.. wtf..
[06:38] <Dr_willis> down to the basement i go!
[06:41] <t3hwiz0rd-server> Dr_willis: don't let your mom catch you ;-)
[06:42] <intelikey> hmmm applied the example "keith.twmrc"   i like the menu design but there is still no apps.... surely there must be a script or something to add all the x-apps to the menu
[06:42] <Dr_willis> the wife is sittin ghere.. Playing some Dogz Game for the GameBoy on her pc.. :P
[06:42] <intelikey> t3hwiz0rd-server hehhe  like to live dangerously do ya ?
[06:43] <Dr_willis> Im not sure twm can handle ALL the apps.
[06:43] <intelikey> Dr_willis i have seen it have the full list of apps in the menu before.  but this menu has no apps.
[06:44] <intelikey> i mean iconify raise and lower   is about it.
[06:44] <t3hwiz0rd-server> Dr_willis: lol...
[06:44] <intelikey> xkill    i guess it does have one app
[06:44] <t3hwiz0rd-server> intelikey: lol...
[06:48] <Pensacola> when I start konqueror I get this error: usr/lib/kde/konq_iconview.so: indefined symbol
[06:48] <Pensacola> it happened after the last update
[06:48] <Healot> rm -rf kubuntu :)
[06:49] <Pensacola> remove kubuntu?
[06:49] <easrat> hey
[06:49] <easrat> are you there
[06:49] <Healot> i just like that tagline :)
[06:50] <Pensacola> :D
[06:50] <easrat> yeah
[06:50] <easrat> have you seen one guy passing by
[06:50] <easrat> oh ok then i gotta go, it was nice meetin you
[06:51] <intelikey> i think he went  ----->  that'a way.
[06:51] <easrat> what was he wearing
[06:51] <intelikey> an irc client
[06:52] <t3hwiz0rd-server> i've been called 9 different fowl words in the past 3 minutes... lol
[06:52] <intelikey> you didn't expect him to be in here naked did you?
[06:52] <intelikey> pigon
[06:52] <intelikey> make it 10
[06:53] <intelikey> pigeon   even
[06:58] <Lam_> what the hell is the point in using kde wallet if knetworkmanager asks you for the network's access password anyways?
[06:59] <intelikey> Lam_ it gives hackers another file to get your personal info from ???
[06:59] <Lam_> bah
[06:59] <intelikey> :)
[07:00] <Lam_> is there a way at least to make knetworkmanager stop accessing kde wallet?
[07:00] <intelikey> ah come on play the game....
[07:00] <Lam_> or would you not know?
[07:00] <intelikey> i would not know.
[07:00] <Lam_> fair enough :P
[07:00] <intelikey> that's all pointy clicky terratory
[07:00] <Jucato> lol
[07:01] <intelikey> but i bet ya john the ripper can get your passwd out of your kwallet  :)
[07:02] <intelikey> say Jucato.   how is ya ?
[07:02] <Jucato> still "forced" to use the dreaded OS on a PC that is not mine :)
[07:03] <intelikey> my heart bleedssssss
[07:03] <intelikey> well maybe some day.
[07:04] <Jucato> yeah.. hopefully...
[07:05] <intelikey> Jucato what part of the "project" is yours ?
[07:05] <Jucato> what "project"?
[07:05] <intelikey> kubuntu
[07:05] <intelikey> are'nt you part of the teem now ?
[07:05] <intelikey> aren't
[07:05] <Jucato> um... in a way, yes...
[07:06] <Jucato> mostly I do support stuff. Helping in IRC, forums, etc. haven't really gotten down (and dirty) into Kubuntu...
[07:06] <Jucato> specially not right now, since I'm not even using Linux...
[07:07] <intelikey> so just wondering what to blame on you... oh i see.   i thought you were helping with edgy
[07:07] <Jucato> hah no.
[07:07] <Jucato> you don't have anything to blame on me. at least not yet... :P
[07:07] <intelikey> :)
[07:08] <intelikey> well as above.  maybe some day  :)
[07:08] <Jucato> probably edgy+1... if I can really drag myself to do something productive
[07:09] <intelikey> ok, great.  well i'll let you get back to work.   peace dude
[07:09] <Jucato> I have no work to do right now...
[07:10] <intelikey> oh.  then it's your dime
[07:10] <Jucato> this dreaded OS is really dragging me down... :(
[07:10] <Jucato> I can barely get anything Linux-related done...
[07:10] <intelikey> yeah.   hey i could dcc you a virus   :)
[07:10] <Jucato> lol
[07:10] <intelikey> would it help ?
[07:11] <intelikey> i have a pretty nasty one...
[07:11] <intelikey> :)
[07:11] <Jucato> no it wouldn't :)
[07:11] <Jucato> well, it would probably help if I wanted to annoy my sister
[07:11] <Jucato> (this is her PC)
[07:11] <intelikey> ok.    well just trying to help any way i can.
[07:12] <Jucato> :)
[07:12] <intelikey> :)
[07:12] <intelikey> don't know off hand how twm updates the menu do you ?
[07:13] <intelikey> my twm menu is vacent
[07:13] <Jucato> um no
[07:14] <intelikey> i could edit the rc file  but that don't seem very productive... there is surely a script or something.
[07:14] <intelikey> but it's nothing important anyway.
[07:23] <zen_> ok im losta gain
[07:23] <zen_> i have two things i wanna do
[07:23] <Dr_willis> hmm
[07:23] <zen_> on eis install a printer driver for my lexmark x7170 all in one printer
[07:24] <zen_> and the other is
[07:24] <zen_> i want to make the last stage of a file to make my compiz work
[07:24] <zen_> withthe xgl
[07:24] <zen_> but lets do the lexmark forst
[07:24] <zen_> cos the other is not so urgent
[07:25] <dude_> !xgl
[07:25] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:26] <zen2> i have got all the files installed  i just need to configure it to run
[07:26] <zen2> but lets get back to the lexmark
[07:27] <Dr_willis> First thing for the printer is to check the cups.org page to se eif its even supported.
[07:27] <osiris> what is the name of the cli tool (ncurses based i think) for toggling processes per run level
[07:28] <intelikey> zen_ ist here a nych ance th at yo uwoul dgetm or ehelp i fpeo ple coul dactu all yre adwha ty out yped ?     please disreguard my typos...
[07:28] <zen2> yep ther eis
[07:28] <Dr_willis> lexmark x7170  does seem to have linux support.. lets google some more on it.. :)
[07:28] <zen2> i got all you said straight away
[07:29] <zen2> yeah i went to lexmarks site they had redhat and suse files
[07:29] <zen2> they are tar.gz files
[07:29] <Dr_willis> of course hopefully the cups guys used the info and made pdd files for it.
[07:30] <Dr_willis> unless the thing is vey very new
[07:30] <zen2> ohh so pdd is a file type
[07:30] <zen2> nah 2 years old
[07:31] <intelikey> should be supported in cupsys-driver-gimpprint
[07:31] <intelikey> no ?
[07:31] <Dr_willis> No idea.
[07:31] <Dr_willis> My printer is 10 years old. :P
[07:31] <zen2> hmm that did not make sense to me
[07:31] <Dr_willis> I just found some info on that printer in the ubuntu forums
[07:32] <intelikey> sudo apt-get install cupsys-driver-gimpprint
[07:32] <zen2> can i get the link
[07:32] <intelikey> oh Dr_willis for breezy/dapper/edgy/ ?
[07:32] <Dr_willis> reading it now. :)
[07:33] <Dr_willis> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77817
[07:33] <zen2> Setting up cupsys-driver-gimpprint (5.0.0~rc2-0ubuntu6) ...
[07:33] <zen2> zennix@zennix-desktop:~$
[07:35] <rawr> i have put my self in a bad place.
[07:35] <rawr> reintalled kubuntu and now the internet don't work
[07:35] <zen2> ok i just read it
[07:36] <zen2> im not likeing the look of that
[07:36] <zen2> looks like no support
[07:36] <intelikey> oh no the internet is not working.... oh wait you mean you can't connect to the inet...  wheew  had me worried... rawr     all joking aside  what errors do you get ?
[07:37] <rawr> can't find host i think it was
[07:37] <rawr> durring install there was
[07:37] <rawr> can't updatedequirity
[07:38] <intelikey> !wifi
[07:38] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:38] <rawr> its a wire modem
[07:38] <rawr> ethernet cable
[07:38] <intelikey> !cable
[07:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cable - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:38] <rawr> weird to think it worked before i reinstalled...
[07:39] <rawr> but screws on me now
[07:39] <rawr> And also strangly anouth firefox didn't come wwith it......
[07:39] <Dr_willis> zen2,  from what i am reading lexmark has info out on that printer.. but its not in the cups stuff yet.. as far as i can tell and the scanner part - has some other drivers out.
[07:40] <rawr> oh well
[07:40] <intelikey> rawr not really so wierd.  probably something didn't quite copy correctly.    and firefox does not come with kubuntu.   you can install ff when you get the network working.
[07:40] <rawr> didn't know that
[07:40] <Dr_willis> Price When Reviewed: $150   - wow that printer can do a lot for $150
[07:41] <rawr> but yet again it was a very long time since i first installed
[07:41] <Dr_willis> But i will stick with my 10 yr old printer. :P
[07:41] <zen2> ok so im doomed for now
[07:41] <zen2> thanks anyway
[07:41] <Dr_willis> zen2,  im getting where i perfer network enabled printers.
[07:41] <zen2> yeah is a dam fine system
[07:42] <rawr> Hey wait a min..... i didn't format my /home .
[07:42] <zen2> yep makes more sense to me too
[07:42] <intelikey> Dr_willis any chance you could get rawr's eth0 up for him
[07:42] <Dr_willis> at least lexmark acknoledges that Linux Exists...
[07:42] <Dr_willis> Canon dont even want to do that.
[07:42] <rawr> cause i had my crap on it
[07:42] <zen2> yeah
[07:42] <Dr_willis> Its 2 am here..i am about to hit the bed
[07:42] <rawr> perhaps that causes problems?
[07:42] <intelikey> rawr that should not affect the network
[07:42] <Dr_willis> I dont see how  home would affect it. :)
[07:42] <intelikey> but i'm network illeterate
[07:43] <Dr_willis> #1 - check ALL your network settings.. :)
[07:43] <rawr> I am just so used to plugin things and them working.
[07:43] <Dr_willis> #2 ping the gateway, other machines,  dns servers..
[07:43] <intelikey> cable modem  ^
[07:43] <rawr> and unfortantly i am currently in windows
[07:43] <rawr> dsl modem.
[07:44] <rawr> i was only refering to it n ot bieng wifi sorry about that
[07:44] <Dr_willis> jot down the ip for google. (or an ip for them) if you can ping the ip, but not the www.google.com    ----> that imples a dns server setting
[07:44] <Dr_willis> if you cant ping either, and cant ping the gateway.   -> net card config issues.
[07:44] <rawr> i see
[07:45] <intelikey> !dsl
[07:45] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[07:45] <rawr> anything else i should look at while i am booted
[07:45] <Dr_willis> check dmesg output also - to see  if the card is seen right...
[07:45] <rawr> i just hate windows so much..
[07:45] <intelikey> rawr take notes...   cause he won't be here to gripe at when you get back.
[07:45] <rawr> il copy the conv.
[07:46] <rawr> save in my shared partiion tween wwindows and ku.
[07:46] <rawr> dmesg output?
[07:46] <Dr_willis> dmesg command :)
[07:47] <intelikey> yes  and also read  --->   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[07:47] <rawr> @.@
[07:47] <Dr_willis> well its late for me.. night
[07:47] <rawr> thanks for the help i hope everything works
[07:48] <intelikey> dmesg - print or control the kernel ring buffer        dmesg is used to examine or control the kernel ring buffer.       The program helps users to print out their bootup messages.   Can someone please tell me what to do in order for me to properly install kubuntu. Thx in advance
[07:53] <intelikey> !ati
[07:53] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:53] <intelikey> !malone
[07:53] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[07:53] <adr1an> thx
[07:56] <intelikey> man Ayabara i don't know but have you looked   " man ssh-copy-id ;man ssh-keygen ;man ssh-keyscan "  ???
[07:57] <T3hWiz0rd> intelikey: day 2 has officially ended and kubuntu has been going on rock-steady.
[07:57] <Ayabara> intelikey, I took a quick look, but the man page said so much that I tried to use you guys as a shortcut :-) thanks
[07:58] <Ayabara> ahh, no, I just checked man for ssh
[07:59] <intelikey> t3hwiz0rd  ah well i can't always be right.    it's not fair to the rest of ya.
[07:59] <intelikey> :)
[08:00] <T3hWiz0rd> intelikey: why are you so doubtful of debian?
[08:00] <intelikey> i'm not.  but this is not debian.
[08:00] <T3hWiz0rd> kubuntu is debian
[08:00] <intelikey> i know it's build from debian packages
[08:00] <intelikey> but it
[08:00] <T3hWiz0rd> kubuntu is a debian os lol
[08:00] <intelikey> oops.  but it's not debian.
[08:00] <intelikey> no it's not.
[08:01] <T3hWiz0rd> how is it not a debian?
[08:01] <intelikey> many things are compiled differently than their debian ancestors
[08:02] <T3hWiz0rd> intelikey: its still a debian os, even if it is a little custom
[08:02] <intelikey> tell that in #debian  :)
[08:02] <T3hWiz0rd> the people in #debian haven't seen daylight in 20 years
[08:03] <intelikey> but you know more about their code than they do ???
[08:05] <intelikey> i mean saying ubuntu = debian   is almost like saying debian = bsd because it has many bsd apps....
[08:05] <momal> lol? 2 people fighting over something that no one cares about lol !!!
[08:05] <intelikey> where momal ?
[08:06] <momal> the ubuntu and debian thingo you and t3hwizord are talking about lol!
[08:06] <intelikey> talking about != fight
[08:07] <momal> lol fight to me :p
[08:07] <rredd4> is there a way to disable the sound when the desktop appears?  without killing all of the sound..
[08:07] <momal> anyone arguing points betwen each other is a fight :p
[08:07] <intelikey> oh then you and i must be fighting also momal
[08:07] <intelikey> :)
[08:08] <momal> indeed... if you say its not a fight and i do then we are :p
[08:08] <intelikey> rredd4 yes.  in the system > something.....  i forget...
[08:08] <momal> rredd4: system settings> sounds multimedia>system notifications... should be in there somewhere :D
[08:09] <Ayabara> I always prefer fighting people who don't know they're in a fight. makes it easier to convince myself I won.
[08:09] <intelikey> Ayabara hehhe
[08:09] <momal> interesting idea :p
[08:09] <intelikey> and is self deception a good thing ?
[08:09] <intelikey> :)
[08:10] <Ayabara> I have spent a lot of time convincing myself that self deception is a good thing ;-)
[08:10] <intelikey> :)
[08:11] <eri> nick #bandung
[08:11] <intelikey> well as long as you are unanamus about it Ayabara   :)
[08:14] <intelikey> T3hWiz0rd anyway.  back to our "fight"  or saying that every linux os is a gentoo os because they are all built from the same source code.....    :)
[08:14] <rredd4> nomal  ty its under system notifications/events/KDE is starting up
[08:14] <rredd4> ty
[08:18] <intelikey> if it's GNU/Linux  it's good,  because it's linux.... the GNU part...meh i guess i'm not a rms fan.  but that don't mean i'm against him/it.
[08:19] <Healot> moo you
[08:19] <intelikey> root means square ?
[08:24] <ubuntu> hello
[08:24] <intelikey> say
[08:26] <Zaire> anyone in here know css?
[08:26] <Healot> Zaire: what seems to be the problem? IE rendering doesn't work?
[08:27] <Zaire> its not really that Im having trouble getting the stuff in my footer div to go to the far left rather then centered left plus while doing so keeping the css valid
[08:28] <intelikey> ah ha !   there's the problem.    update-menus[10552] : Script /etc/menu-methods/twm returned error status 1.
[08:28] <Healot> zaire: your css declaration for that footer div?
[08:29] <Zaire> http://pastebin.ca/204752
[08:31] <Healot> ok, since it is a relative positioning... what's the body width and height?
[08:31] <Zaire> 1280x1024
[08:32] <Healot> huge; ok, let's see if the CSS is valid
[08:33] <Healot> the align-left property is not a valid prop
[08:33] <intelikey> hah  the symlink in /usr/sbin/install-menu  was borked.     and duh  why is the script in /usr/bin and every thing that uses it is looking for it in /usr/sbin   that's wak
[08:33] <Healot> you want the footer to be left-aligned?
[08:34] <Zaire> yeps I took that left:256px; out again and its valid but positioning is't the way I would like it
[08:34] <Healot> align-left:400px; << this is not a valid prop though
[08:34] <Zaire> yea I want it all the way on the left side
[08:35] <Zaire> not just slightly left lol
[08:35] <Healot> try float: left
[08:36] <Healot> you want the div to be left-aligned or the text-align to be left-aligned?
[08:36] <Zaire> the whole thing to tell the truth
[08:37] <Zaire> float left didn't even touch its position
[08:42] <intelikey> Warning: the string include-menu-defs did not occur in template file /etc/X11/twm//system.twmrc-menu     still no menu
[08:43] <dude> hello
[08:43] <dude> is it safe to install xserver-xgl?
[08:44] <kraut> moin
[08:45] <Zaire> only 3 things could result from xgl #1 in just may not work, #2 it may break linux, #3 it may also possibly work lol
[08:46] <dude> zaire: so what is ur recoomendaton?
[08:46] <dude> zaire: so what is ur recomendaton?
[08:46] <Zaire> dunno personally cause Ive never gotten it to work
[08:47] <T3hWiz0rd> Zaire: it can also do all 3 at once...
[08:47] <Zaire> course it just didn't work when I tried it
[08:47] <Zaire> lol such is linux, always and adventure lol
[08:47] <T3hWiz0rd> lol... wooo my scripts still there
[08:48] <dude> zaire: so may be i will not not install xgl then 4 the meantime
[08:48] <T3hWiz0rd> XGL gets boring fast
[08:48] <T3hWiz0rd> its like a blonde girlfriend...
[08:48] <T3hWiz0rd> fun until the miles rack up.
[08:49] <dude> hehehe
[08:49] <Zaire> well unless you can get someone who knows enough about it prob best not to lol
[08:49] <dude> T3hWizord: have you tried XGL?
[08:49] <T3hWiz0rd> dude: yes, but i did it on its native suse platform
[08:49] <T3hWiz0rd> and even there its buggy and basically stupid.
[08:50] <dude> T3hWizord: it is inculded in suse platform right?
[08:50] <T3hWiz0rd> dude: not included, just installable
[08:51] <T3hWiz0rd> and to think... im the one listening to robert palmer 0.o''
[08:51] <dude> so what is the verdict?
[08:51] <T3hWiz0rd> dude: i would avoid it its still CVS and thus buggy and you can blow your system out of the water like the republican agenda.
[08:52] <dude> T3hWizord: ok...tnx, i'l just enjoy my existing 3ddesktop
[08:52] <T3hWiz0rd> what are you using now?
[08:53] <Blacken> Open-source mathematica-ish programs...anyone have any recommendations?
[08:53] <dude> 3ddesktop
[08:53] <dude> additional application
[08:54] <intelikey> hmmm   Warning: the string include-menu-defs did not occur in template file /etc/X11/twm//system.twmrc-menu      but it also doesn't appear in anything i can find.    and still no menu entries.
[08:54] <intelikey> Blacken "mathematica-ish"   never heard of mathematica  what's it like ?
[08:55] <hastesaver> Blacken, yes. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuScientists , the mathematics section
[08:55] <hastesaver> Blacken, the problem is that there are lots ;-)
[08:55] <intelikey> oh a scientific calc app
[08:55] <intelikey> yeah lots
[08:56] <intelikey> bc   :)
[08:57] <hastesaver> intelikey, no, no, more than bc :-) It can plot graphs, find roots of polynomials, do symbolic integration, ...
[08:58] <intelikey> hastesaver bc was followed by     :)
[08:59] <intelikey> bc is hardly a scientific calculator     it's more of a algabraic algarythm reader
[08:59] <Blacken> hastesaver: Any that you'd recommend?
[09:00] <Blacken> Searching synaptic brings up Axiom.
[09:01] <hastesaver> Blacken, I haven't used any of them (yet). I've heard ohers use maxima and octave, though
[09:01] <hastesaver> Blacken, mathematica is also available for Linux, if you can buy it :)
[09:02] <Blacken> I'm helping teach a class in calculus...need something that will break 'em down step by step.
[09:04] <ztr> muuuuuuuuh
[09:04] <ztr> fdasffds
[09:04] <ztr> sdf
[09:04] <ztr> dssssfFFFFD
[09:04] <ztr> SSSGGGGGGGGWEEEEEEG
[09:04] <ztr> WE
[09:04] <ztr> fgE
[09:04] <ztr> FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFEW4444hhhhhhhhhhh
[09:04] <Blacken> Banmeat is you. Die please.
[09:05] <hastesaver> Blacken, I'm trying out "mathomatic" now... looks usable (no GUI, though)
[09:06] <hastesaver> Blacken, what exactly do you want, BTW? What do you mean by step by step?
[09:08] <Zaire> damnit I still can't get total left alignment
[09:09] <Blacken> hastesaver: I'm looking at mathomatic right now, too.  :P
[09:12] <hastesaver> Blacken, maybe. I'm not sure :-)
[09:13] <Blacken> hastesaver: There's a website that does it, and does it well--uses webMathematica as a backend.
[09:13] <kumsy>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>
[09:13] <Zaire> is there a website that does css for you :S
[09:13] <Blacken> hastesaver: However, the website basically GIVES them the answer, so I don't want to give it out to them; I want to use it as an example.
[09:13] <kumsy> -
[09:13] <kumsy>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>
[09:13] <kumsy> -
[09:13] <Blacken> Zaire: You're looking for #css, I believe.
[09:14] <hastesaver> Blacken, I'm not sure if it exists; and I'm even less sure if it's possible to find it :-)
[09:14] <Blacken> hastesaver: Probably not.  I *know* that it's out there...just maybe not OSS. :/
[09:15] <hastesaver> Blacken, but if differentiation is all you need, it should be simple to write one yourself... will probably take less time than trying to find it
[09:15] <Blacken> hastesaver: To draw out the intermediate steps from any arbitrary function put in? My C-fu ain't that great.
[09:16] <hastesaver> Blacken, oh, I was thinking only of polynomials... you could also go to the mathomatic people and bug them to include this feature
[09:16] <Zaire> well submitted my question in there...been working on this page for 3 days now
[09:16] <Zaire> well pages more or less
[09:17] <Blacken> hastesaver: True. Polynomials are pretty much everything, but the prof enjoys throwing weird crap at students.
[09:18] <Blacken> I mean--I wouldn't ever make a student do out (-9x^2+2)^8*(9x^2+6)^12 by hand. He would. *twitch*
[09:18] <Blacken> The derivative of that, that is.
[09:18] <Zaire> no one seems to be doing anything in the css channel :S
[09:19] <Blacken> Zaire: Then wait for an answer, instead of going to unrelated channels?
[09:19] <olof> i downloaded a dvd-movie in .img format  (4,5gb),   but how do i play it normally as a dvd in kaffeine without burning it?
[09:21] <hastesaver> olof, you can mount the file, and then for all purposes it's an actual dvd
[09:21] <Zaire> I just find help where ever I can
[09:21] <Healot> !bchunk
[09:21] <ubotu> bchunk: CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-1 (dapper), package size 12 kB, installed size 68 kB
[09:21] <olof> yeah, i followed some guide to mount isos and stuff, but it didnt work
[09:21] <Healot> img?
[09:21] <Healot> hummwhichprogramcreatedit?
[09:22] <hastesaver> olof, is the .img same as an iso file?
[09:22] <olof> i think so yes
[09:22] <olof> its a dvd-movie
[09:24] <Blacken> hastesaver: IMGs are a different kind of image file. I forget the exact details, but I don't believe they mount as iso9660.
[09:24] <Blacken> Not directly. But I may be wrong.
[09:24] <Blacken> Anyway, bed...
[09:25] <olof> i mounted the img file, but and i could explore the files in konqerour, but nothing happened when i pressed play dvd in kaffeine
[09:26] <hastesaver> olof, oh, Kaffeine is probably looking for the DVD in the wrong place
[09:27] <olof> im new to linux and kubuntu if u havent noticed btw :)
[09:28] <hastesaver> olof, and I haven't used kaffeine, so I don't know how to get it to work... keep asking ("I have mounted a DVD in <location>; how do I get kaffeine to play it?", etc); I'm sure someone will answer :)
[09:30] <dude_> what is the best video player in kubuntu?
[09:30] <Healot> none
[09:30] <Healot> the best is hardware video player instead :)
[09:31] <olof> dude_: i like kaffeine best
[09:31] <dude_> actually i can't play my videos
[09:31] <ad> H ! I m editing grub  menu list : to specify a default i got to count ; should I count only entries with 'savedefaults' only ?
[09:32] <ad> dude_: try videolan
[09:32] <ad> dude_: vlc
[09:37] <olof> dude_: missing codecs?
[09:39] <dude_> olof: ya missing codec
[09:39] <dude_> olof: ya missing codecs
[09:39] <Healot> !mp3
[09:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:39] <Healot> !info libxine-extracodecs
[09:39] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[09:39] <Zaire> where are the ssh logs in kubuntu I kinda forgot lol
[09:42] <dude_> !video
[09:42] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[09:42] <ad> I can not find where I can change my screen resolution ::
[09:43] <ad> dude_: vlc doesn't need any codecs most time ! I got it on windows and it is very googd !
[09:44] <Healot> VLC has built-in codecs :)
[09:45] <momal> ad: system settings> display
[09:45] <dude_> k tnx
[09:47] <ad> momal: well i don't find this menu (french one :\) Is there a path ?
[09:48] <momal> ad: dunknow... but usually system settings button is in your K menu. then should be an icon of a screen for the display.
[09:49] <ad> momal: I think I find it but only 640 480 is in the select box :\
[09:49] <ad> momal: on install it was 1024 !
[09:49] <momal> ad: Could be a driver issue.. try and download latest drivers for your card
[09:49] <momal> !nvidia
[09:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:50] <ad> !ati
[09:50] <momal> ad: that link will have info for both :)
[09:51] <dude_> olof: vlc can't still play movies, just sound
[09:52] <dude_> ad: vlc can't still play movies, just sound
[09:52] <ad> k thanks :) more over since I update from breezy to dapper, my laptop keyboard works bad : letters forgotten, multiple samez letter ...
[09:52] <_alex> !nvidia
[09:52] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:55] <Zaire> finally took me long enough but fixed my css lol
[09:56] <Zaire> no help or nothin....I didn't put a paragraph tag in my xhtml an was missing 1 thing from my css
[09:59] <qichao> hi, does anyone know how to use shortcut keys to switch between desktop in KDE??
[09:59] <qichao> I am new to Linux, ha, anyone can help??
[10:01] <momal> qichao: http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/tip/2289.html <-- go down to the For KDE
[10:02] <livingdaylight> HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!
[10:02] <qichao> wow, thanks a lot
[10:02] <livingdaylight> HAPPY BIRTHDAY KDE
[10:02] <Zaire> how do you tell what version of mysql-server your running
[10:03] <livingdaylight> HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU!
[10:03] <livingdaylight> FOR HE IS A JOLLY GOOD FELLOW!
[10:03] <Zaire> got a guy on the line in mysql help but need to know version of mysql-server
[10:04] <momal> lolz... livingdaylight: super excited there? :p
[10:05] <momal> Zaire: mysql --version | will give what version is running
[10:05] <livingdaylight> HI momal!
[10:06] <livingdaylight> momal: I didn't even know it was KDE's birthday! Didn't bring anything... :/
[10:07] <momal> lol!
[10:07] <Healot> KDE is so German :-
[10:08] <livingdaylight> hey...    I have a hardware synth that works in Windows 95 and Red Hat Linux 9 (kernel 2.2).  It does not play with /dev/sequencer or /dev/snd/seq.
[10:27] <momal> yea that liscence stuff was bullcrap you can't run any vmware program on it unless you have the ulti edition :S?
[10:28] <Zaire> vista has a nice look in its own GUI wise but the interface has been overhauled and really sucks
[10:28] <rysiek|pl> Zaire: yeah. and have you read the licence?
[10:28] <AWOSDev> NO WAY!
[10:28] <Zaire> no just got the clip notes from digg.com
[10:28] <AWOSDev> You can't run VMware unless you have the Ultimate edition?
[10:29] <Zaire> yeps
[10:29] <dude> AWOSDev: kubuntu as workstation
[10:29] <AWOSDev> what a crap.
[10:29] <AWOSDev> dude: Should work.
[10:29] <Zaire> and you can only have 5 comps networked with home premium
[10:29] <AWOSDev> dude: never tried it, but I heard it would work
[10:29] <AWOSDev> Zaire, I have 12 computers.
[10:30] <AWOSDev> dude: do this on the Konsole       sudo apt-get install samba3-doc
[10:30] <rysiek|pl> Zaire: the only thing it lacks, IMHO, is the line: "and thou shall not install linux nor any free software on the same machine thou hath installed the Godly Vista"
[10:30] <thoreauputic> discussion of Vista should probably be in #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[10:30] <rysiek|pl> sry
[10:30] <AWOSDev> Don't give 'em any ideas!!!!!
[10:30] <Zaire> its been bad since the start...you also pretty much can't disable the windows antivirus and firewall stuff...well not completely anyway
[10:31] <AWOSDev> Ahh!
[10:31] <AWOSDev> Spambots cussing Linux and telling everyone to use "Windows" in #ubuntu!
[10:31] <Zaire> yea I thought SP2 was bad for XP lol vista was way worse lol
[10:32] <rysiek|pl> AWOSDev: ...aaand they're gone.
[10:32] <momal> http://www.activewin.com/awin/comments.asp?HeadlineIndex=36820 <-- the liscening stuff for vista to those who are wishing to see it
[10:32] <livingdaylight> momal: what is the command to activate beryl again?
[10:32] <AWOSDev> And they're back!
[10:32] <momal> beryl-manager
[10:32] <livingdaylight> momal: please?   :D
[10:33] <rysiek|pl> guys, repeating my question, where on earth can I get xmodmap mapping files (xmodmap.pl, xmodmap.us, etc)? they're not present on my system
[10:34] <momal> rysiek|pl: have you tried reinstalling xmodmap ?
[10:34] <rysiek|pl> momal: darn, that would be too simple, now wouldn't it? :)
[10:34] <rysiek|pl> on it
[10:34] <Zaire> spammer in mysql channel to
[10:36] <rysiek|pl> momal: it dodn't help.  It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall  -  Please: Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page. - DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[10:43] <AWOSDev> !codecs
[10:43] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:43] <AWOSDev> Go to this site: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[10:43] <AWOSDev> and read about w32codecs.
[10:43] <dude> ok
[10:43] <dude> tnx
[10:43] <AWOSDev> np
[10:43] <cpk2> dude: apt-cache policy w32codecs will tell you if you have it installed
[10:44] <dude> cpk2: tnx
[10:44] <dude> guys, have u tried xgl/compiz?
[10:45] <Zaire> anyone know any mods for the mysql channel cause theres a major spam prob some jerkazz has a bot in there
[10:45] <dude> is it safe to install  xgl/compiz?
[10:45] <AWOSDev> I'll see what I can do
[10:45] <momal> dude: yes... use beryl #beryl instead of compiz :)
[10:46] <momal> dude: livingdaylight has it installed working as well :)... do you have ati or nvidia ?
[10:46] <livingdaylight> momal: what about Aigl instead of XGL?
[10:46] <livingdaylight> dude: what up?
[10:46] <momal> livingdaylight: unless you have ait card don't bother about that yet lol
[10:46] <dude> momal: what wrong with compiz?
[10:46] <livingdaylight> dude: i got it working like a dream
[10:46] <dude> momal: whats wrong with compiz?
[10:47] <livingdaylight> momal: ait?
[10:47] <momal> dude: its evil 1 ... and the reps are broken for it lol.. and beryl is the *new* compiz..
[10:47] <momal> livingdaylight: ati*
[10:47] <livingdaylight> dude: beryl is the one
[10:47] <livingdaylight> momal: so Aigl is for ati cards?
[10:47] <livingdaylight> momal: and XGL for nvidia?
[10:48] <dude> livingdaylight: can you guide me?
[10:48] <dude> cpk2: w32codecs ae installed
[10:49] <momal> dude: http://beryl-project.org/ | livingdaylight: aixgl is basically for ati cards xgl however can work for ati as well
[10:49] <momal> dude: you have nvidia card or ati ?
[10:49] <cpk2> dude: great, then windows media files should run fine
[10:49] <livingdaylight> dude: this is an excellent spoon-fed howto that momal gave me http://forum.beryl-project.org/topic-5063-howto-xgl-beryl-kubuntu-dapper-with-nvidia
[10:49] <dude> nvidia
[10:49] <momal> dude: yea use that howto livingdaylight just linked to ^_-
[10:50] <dude> cpk2: what is your video player?
[10:50] <cpk2> dude: i use kaffeine
[10:50] <cpk2> and sometimes mplayer
[10:51] <dude> ok, tnx
[10:51] <momal> dude: go into #beryl if you need more help on it bunch people in there :)
[10:52] <livingdaylight> momal: is there a draw back to using xgl/beryl/compiz in that you can'tuse any other 3-D applications?
[10:52] <momal> livingdaylight: yes and no... some might have problems but generally hasn't been reported probs
[10:53] <livingdaylight> momal: how about google-earth for example?
[10:53] <momal> try it out and see :p... no reason to why it shoulnt' work
[10:53] <cpk2> dude: it really shouldnt matter what player you use
[10:53] <livingdaylight> momal: but what if i try and my computer blows up!?
[10:54] <dude> cpk2: it is working now, tnx
[10:54] <dude> livingdaylight: hehehe, it seems that im confused
[10:54] <momal> lol then you sue google :)... umm nar it wont at most whats would happen is that X would crash and you just log back in :)
[10:54] <momal> dude: lol?... you need help setting up beryl/xgl ?
[10:54] <dude> momal: yes pls
[10:56] <AWOSDev> Well I'll be going to be now, g'night all
[10:56] <AWOSDev> 4:55am EDT
[10:56] <Ayabara> the system beep is driving me insane. I tried removing it with "sudo modprobe -r pcspkr", but it won't die.
[10:56] <momal> sleep tight :p
[10:57] <AWOSDev> :)
[10:57] <AWOSDev> bmo, did you get my email?
[10:58] <dude> unregistred nick?
[10:58] <user_____> non-ts
[10:59] <AWOSDev> dude, me?  No I'm reged
[10:59] <AWOSDev> well g'night all
[11:00] <gzevspero> Hi, I have an avermedia pci video capture card in my PC, how can I find out if it has been detected and installed correctly in ubuntu?
[11:00] <dude> NickServ- The nickname [dude]  is already registered
[11:00] <momal> lol badluck...
[11:01] <cpk2> gzevspero: first step would be to see if it shows up in lspci
[11:01] <wilson> hehehe
[11:02] <momal> lol? just come talk in #beryl and will say it there :p
[11:03] <wilson> why is it i cant register
[11:03] <wilson> hmmmm
[11:03] <Ayabara> anyone? how can I get rid of the system beep?
[11:04] <cpk2> Ayabara: in konsole?
[11:04] <Ayabara> cpk2, everywhere
[11:04] <cpk2> well, you could just unplug the speaker
[11:05] <Ayabara> cpk2, hmm. it seemed to work the second time I did modprobe -r
[11:05] <Ayabara> :-)
[11:05] <thoreauputic> Ayabara: in X,  xset b off , in tty setterm -blength 0  if I recall correctly
[11:05] <Ayabara> thoreauputic, thanks, did that fix too :-)
[11:06] <cmvo> Hi! I'm looking for a utility that would spread files, that are too many/big for one cd, across directories so they could be burned on several cds.
[11:08] <kalbs> finally
[11:08] <kalbs> hehehe
[11:08] <gzevspero> cpk2: yes, it shows up as "Philips Semiconductors SAA7130 Video Broadcast Decoder"
[11:15] <kalbs> cani run winxp on kubuntu?
[11:17] <RogueJediZero> kalbs: Sorry. Only through VMware or Bochs
[11:18] <kalbs> which is better VMmare or Bochs?
[11:18] <_alex> Hi ! Is it possible to control windows XP pro from kubuntu via terminal server ?
[11:19] <RogueJediZero> kalbs: I'd say VMware
[11:20] <RogueJediZero> But it isn't free
[11:20] <olof> can i run open gl apps  thru vmware/bochs?
[11:20] <RogueJediZero> Don't think so, no
[11:20] <RogueJediZero> Both give you just a basic SVGA driver
[11:21] <RogueJediZero> At least last time I tried them, they did.
[11:39] <Shoiab> I have cable net behind windows isa server!!!! unable to connect under ubuntu!!! waht I do??
[11:42] <dude> how can i reset my adept manager
[11:42] <dude> database locked
[11:43] <dude> You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[11:46] <Shoiab>  I have cable net behind windows isa server!!!! unable to connect under ubuntu!!! waht I do??
[11:46] <dude> how can i reset my adept manager
[11:47] <cpk2> dude: try killall adept
[11:47] <cpk2> and killall apt-get
[11:48] <dude> apt-get: no process killed
[11:49] <bmo> no cpk, he's got a lockfile for apt somewhere...I am looking where it might be
[11:49] <bmo> er...
[11:49] <bmo> I know, why don't I use google...derrrr...
[11:49] <Jucato> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:50] <dude> actually, im downloading VMware
[11:50] <dude> momal
[11:51] <momal> just sec my box is screwing its self over at the moment
[11:51] <momal> kopete just doesn't work anymore... like wtf thats twice now
[11:51] <Jucato> dude, "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[11:52] <dude> ok
[11:52] <_alex> I m looking for a good remote control client/server : I want to control windows XP from my kubuntu on my LAN. I tried Real VNC / Tight VNC but both are too slow :\
[11:53] <dude> jucato: nothing happend
[11:53] <_alex> I want something as fast as terminal server when controlling windows XP with another windows XP
[11:54] <bmo> dude, try this...
[11:54] <bmo> rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
[11:55] <bmo> http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Apt-get
[11:55] <Jucato> dude, after trying the command, were you able to run Adept or apt-get again?
[11:55] <bmo> rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
[11:55] <bmo>   rm /var/lib/aptitude/lock
[11:55] <bmo>   rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[11:55] <bmo>   rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[11:55] <dude> jucato: tnx....
[11:57] <bmo>  If so, or as a last resort, try issuing this:
[11:57] <bmo>   dpkg --configure -a
[11:57] <bmo> This lets Debian's dpkg finish the configuration phase previously begun.  I tried it once, and seem to recall that no one in the channel would help me until I uninstalled it :-)
[12:02] <momal> kalbs: yea just sec need to fix my box first I have work I have to get done and if my box isn't working im screwed
[12:02] <Ranma2264> Hi to all I just wanna ask does anyone know if there is a way to edit desktop device icons?
[12:02] <kalbs> okl
[12:04] <Ranma2264> I can only mount my devices via right click and they only point to mountpoint not to media:/ anyone with the same issue?
[12:05] <kalbs> why is it my adept is malfunctioning
[12:05] <kalbs> im downloading vmware and it stops at 16%
[12:05] <kalbs> whay is that
[12:06] <sredna> Hm, which package contains kcolorchooser?
[12:11] <zen2> ok im back and im unhappy
[12:11] <zen2> now i need to know
[12:11] <zen2> what was the xgl chan listed earlier
[12:11] <zen2> !xgl
[12:11] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:11] <franjesus> sredna: use the file search feature in ubuntu's web
[12:11] <zen2> noice
[12:12] <sredna> franjesus: Thank you, but I guessed right - it is in kcoloredit
[12:12] <Ayabara> anyone using beagle? I can't get the beagle daemon to start indexing
[12:12] <carsten> moin
[12:13] <kalbs> my adept manager is not working
[12:13] <carsten> I think that bug 63541 and bug 64570 are the same...
[12:13] <carsten> Whom do I report this ;-)
[12:14] <carsten> Riddell: I even think they might be KDM bugs... but you are not subscribed to these two bugs
[12:14] <_alex> I m trying RDP for remote access to winXP. I can see the log window of XP but my keyboard does not work :\ Can any one help please ?
[12:16] <kalbs> my adept manager is not working
[12:16] <kalbs> can i kill the process?
[12:17] <kalbs> .killall command is noe woring
[12:17] <kalbs> .killall command is noe working
[12:17] <kalbs> .killall command is not working
[12:17] <kasim> _alex: do u use rdesktop programm?
[12:18] <kalbs> help pls
[12:18] <bmo> kalbs are you using the pid or are you using the name of the program in your "killall"?
[12:18] <Jucato> kalbs, what do you mean by "not working"?
[12:19] <bmo> killall - use name  kill - use pid
[12:19] <kalbs> bmo: killall
[12:19] <kasim> _alex: try to use prog 'rdesktop' from CLI. That gives you options for your keyboard as parametes
[12:19] <kalbs> jucato: it does nothing, it doesn't open
[12:19] <bmo> like so: killall foo  kill 3452
[12:20] <bmo> killall -r foo*   will get everything starting with foo
[12:20] <bmo> -r = regexp
[12:20] <Jucato> kalbs, try running it from Konsole to see if you get error messages when it doesn't open: "kdesu adept"
[12:20] <_alex> kasim: yes I use this prog ; i ve just installed it
[12:20] <bmo> there are signals you can pass
[12:20] <bmo> kill -9 is "kill kill"
[12:20] <kalbs> no process killed
[12:21] <bmo> kill -9 pid
[12:21] <kasim> _alex: did you see all the options. type 'rdesktop' only
[12:21] <_alex> kasim: I have those options on GUI
[12:21] <Jucato> kalbs, it means that adept probably isn't running
[12:21] <tx> what package do i need to install to have stdio.h ?
[12:22] <kalbs> jucato: ya...it seems that way
[12:22] <tx> i have installed gcc but there ain't nothing in /usr/include/
[12:22] <tx> 'bout gcc
[12:22] <kalbs> :(
[12:22] <bmo> what are you trying to kill, kalbs?
[12:22] <kalbs> what seems to be the problem?>
[12:23] <kalbs> adept manager is not working
[12:23] <kasim> _alex: always easier to start with CLI, and if working use GUI
[12:23] <_alex> kasim: uhm ... I m using french win XP and there is a option : "disable encryption (french TS)" . Could this be that ?
[12:23] <kalbs> it won't start
[12:23] <bmo> why? what is the error?
[12:23] <kasim> ahh
[12:23] <Jucato> kalbs, have you tried running Adept from the command line, like what I asked?
[12:23] <kalbs> jucato: yes
[12:24] <bmo> what does it say when you run adept from the command line
[12:24] <Jucato> kalbs, what error message (near the end) do you get, then?
[12:24] <kalbs> where should i paste it?
[12:24] <bmo> here if it's not too long
[12:25] <jaro>  hello there. A very unpleasant thing happened to me - my disk collapsed and rendered data partition based on reiserfs unusable. reiserfsck is of no use as there are bad blocks which hit the "system area" of the filesystem. I'd like to ask whether there are any chances of getting the data back in such a case?
[12:25] <Jucato> !pastebin
[12:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:25] <kalbs> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26987/
[12:25] <kalbs> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26987
[12:25] <tx> what packege do i need to install to have the includes that gcc needs , like stdio.h ? gcc is installed but there are no includes in /usr/include
[12:25] <_alex> kasim: I think there is a little bug ... randomly I take away fullscreen mode and I was able to type in ! It works ...
[12:26] <Jucato> kalbs, that's all that you get?
[12:26] <kalbs> yes jucato and asking for password
[12:26] <Jucato> kalbs, and when you enter the password?
[12:27] <_alex> kasim: I used rdesktop -e in a CLI. Then I used the GUI from the KDE menu. Is the "-e" option take effects ? Or does it only open a new instance of the prog ?
[12:27] <kalbs> jucato: nothing, it won't open
[12:27] <kasim> _alex: pls give me the compleate cli line
[12:27] <_alex> kasim: my question is a generic question finally .
[12:27] <Jucato> do you get additional error messages after you give the password?
[12:27] <_alex> kasim: it is complete !
[12:28] <kasim> you must have host at least
[12:28] <_alex> kasim: CLI line was only "rdesktop -e"
[12:28] <Jucato> kalbs, hm.. strange indeed. have you tried restarting KDE (not rebooting)
[12:28] <kasim> rdesktop -e xphost
[12:28] <_alex> kasim: yes of course but ... I told you I then use the GUI from the K-Menu
[12:29] <kalbs> yes i did
[12:29] <kalbs> same
[12:29] <Jucato> ok that is indeed very strange then...
[12:29] <kasim> yes and i told you its per to have written line to debate than some GUI description
[12:30] <_alex> kasim: that is why I wonder if CLI gives a instance and GUI launch another or it is the same so the option '-e' is kept ?
[12:30] <kalbs> i'll try to re start KDE
[12:31] <kasim> i am not sure what "-e" in detail. Sure you can contoll more and precise with CLI. Maybe the "-e" is not passed. Can you look at 'ps aux | grep rdesktop'
[12:31] <dude> jucato: ok
[12:31] <kasim> i mean afte you run the GUI stuff
[12:31] <gemidjy> where do I change OO.org splash screen? In edgy it is the old oo.org default one (it is ugly)
[12:31] <dude> jucato: re started
[12:32] <livingdaylight> anyone here use Opera?
[12:32] <dude> me
[12:32] <_alex> kasim: well full screen bug :\
[12:32] <dude> jucato: what should i do?
[12:32] <livingdaylight> dude: you use the mail client? Its so sluggish here
[12:32] <dude> it's ok
[12:33] <Jucato> dude, huh? are you kalbs?
[12:33] <livingdaylight> dude: composed my first email and its really stalling
[12:33] <dude> yes
[12:33] <dude> sorry
[12:33] <livingdaylight> dude: you got xgl/beryl setup yet?
[12:33] <livingdaylight> kalbs: ?
[12:33] <kalbs> livingdaylight: not yet
[12:33] <kasim> _alex: lets start over, i dont allways understand you. 1. Is 'rdesktop -e xphost' working to your needs?
[12:33] <kalbs> livingdaylight: im afraid
[12:33] <kalbs> livingdaylight: :)
[12:33] <livingdaylight> kalbs: let me know if Opera works fine in XGL/beryl
[12:33] <kalbs> ok
[12:34] <livingdaylight> kalbs: oh, i was too :)
[12:34] <Jucato> kalbs, tried running Adept again? if it still won't start, try rebooting... :(
[12:34] <kalbs> ok
[12:34] <kalbs> same
[12:34] <livingdaylight> i've got this Adept notifier on my taskbar that wont go away!
[12:34] <kalbs> livingdaylight: can u guide me
[12:35] <livingdaylight> on?
[12:35] <kalbs> installing beryl
[12:35] <Jucato> livingdaylight, it won't go away unless you have updated (or turn of the -updates repository)
[12:35] <livingdaylight> kalbs: i believe momal offered to guide you already
[12:35] <kalbs> livingdaylight: ya, but i think he is busy
[12:35] <livingdaylight> Jucato: i have done sudo apt-get updates, and there is nothing to either update or upgrade, so why wont it go away? Didn't used to be an issue
[12:36] <kalbs> jucato: can i re install adept?
[12:36] <livingdaylight> Jucato: i think its just a frozen window is what it looks like
[12:36] <livingdaylight> kalbs: have you installed nvidia and enabled 3d?
[12:36] <kalbs> yes
[12:36] <Jucato> livingdaylight, "sudo apt-get update" only fetches updates. have you done "sudo apt-get upgrade" too?
[12:36] <livingdaylight> kalbs: dude, you've done the hard work, you are nearly home now
[12:37] <Jucato> kalbs, yeah I think so. you can reinstall it. just forgot the apt-get command for it. I know the aptitude command, though: sudo aptitude reinstall adept
[12:37] <livingdaylight> Jucato: yes, that is what i said
[12:37] <livingdaylight> kalbs: i gave you the beryl howto, just follow that, its so easy
[12:37] <bbt> is there a beta nvidia driver .deb package for dapper out there ?
[12:37] <livingdaylight> kalbs: there is #beryl where you can get help
[12:37] <Jucato> hm... have  you tried checking Adept Notifier/Updater to see what packages it thinks it still needs to update
[12:38] <psb154> !nvidia
[12:38] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:38] <kalbs> livingdaylight: ok, tnx, i have 2 reboot
[12:39] <gemidjy> where do I change OO.org splash screen? In edgy it is the old oo.org default one (it is ugly)
[12:41] <szmoli> hi all
[12:42] <szmoli> i`ve just installed kububtu, i need some help
[12:42] <szmoli> how to install firefox?
[12:42] <dude> jucato: what is the command to re start adept?
[12:42] <Jucato> dude, um... what is it saying? that the database is locked?
[12:43] <dude> jucato: yes
[12:43] <Jucato> dude, "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[12:43] <_alex> kasim: no it does not work :\ I use GUI to launch but Keyboard is not active when XP log window appears. To solve it I must take out "fullscreenmode" and then it works
[12:43] <livingdaylight> anyone know how to make Adept Notifier go away?
[12:44] <_alex> kasim: that s why I think it is a bug
[12:44] <szmoli> which program i have to use to find softwares?
[12:44] <livingdaylight> Have i got a virus or a bug?
[12:44] <dude> jucato: ok
[12:44] <dude> its done
[12:44] <livingdaylight> Is Adept Notifier spyware?
[12:44] <dude> tns
[12:44] <dude> tnx
[12:44] <Jucato> livingdaylight, have you tried checking what packages it's saying that needs updating?
[12:45] <livingdaylight> Jucato: it said no updates available
[12:45] <_alex> kasim: anyway when I reclick "FullScreenMode" it works ...
[12:45] <dude> jucato: i need to install VMware, but i dont weant to use adept
[12:45] <livingdaylight> Jucato: then it freezes. I hit 'close' and nothing happens
[12:45] <Jucato> hm... strange indeed
[12:45] <dude> jucato: i need to install VMware, but i dont want to use adept
[12:45] <Jucato> dude, vmware player?
[12:45] <livingdaylight> dude: sudo apt-get install Synaptic
[12:45] <Jucato> livingdaylight, try this command in Konsole "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[12:46] <Jucato> actually that "sudo apt-get install synaptic" (case sensitive)
[12:46] <dude> jucato: yes
[12:46] <Jucato> but you can install VMWare player using apt-get too, "sudo apt-get install vmware-player"
[12:46] <livingdaylight> Jucato: ok, and now?
[12:46] <livingdaylight> dude: sudo apt-get install synaptic :)
[12:47] <dude> ok, tnx
[12:47] <Jucato> livingdaylight, try Adept Notifier again?
[12:48] <livingdaylight> Jucato: i hit anything on that window, whether 'close' or 'advanced' and dialog comes up saying no updates available and then freezes there
[12:48] <Jucato> livingdaylight, but if you really *really* want Adept Notifier not to start at all, just remove it from /usr/share/autostart (I'd recommend not deleting, but just moving or hiding)
[12:48] <livingdaylight> Jucato: not the dialog, but the adept notifier
[12:48] <Jucato> livingdaylight, I'm presuming you're on Dapper right?
[12:49] <livingdaylight> Jucato: sure
[12:49] <dude> jucato: im getting errors while installing vmware player
[12:49] <Jucato> dude, what errors?
[12:49] <livingdaylight> Jucato: I'll completely remove it if i have to. I just would like it to work properly
[12:49] <_alex> kasim: another big problem : in real full screen mode I am stuck in wondows :\
[12:49] <_alex> I can not go back to Linux :\
[12:49] <dude> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26988
[12:49] <Jucato> livingdaylight, I'm not sure. it might (or might not) be a bug.
[12:50] <livingdaylight> Jucato: is it Linux Spyware?
[12:50] <Jucato> of course not
[12:50] <livingdaylight> ^^
[12:50] <livingdaylight> well, its really bugging me
[12:50] <dude> jucato: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26988
[12:51] <Jucato> dude, I've seen it. unfortunately, I'm not familiar with network stuff
[12:51] <dude> so it is about my connection?
[12:52] <ben_> hey guys I'm having trouble getting codecs from automatix, i have installed it but upon opening it says a "key" is missing
[12:52] <Jucato> probably. I'm not sure really
[12:52] <_alex> dude: is your network connexion work ?
[12:52] <dude> alex: what do min?
[12:53] <_alex> dude: What is your prob ? Internet connection ?
[12:53] <dude> alex: no problem with my connection
[12:54] <_alex> dude: well jucato talked about network stuff ... That s why I thought it was a network prob ...
[12:56] <ben_> automatix could not retrieve keys, can someone explain what a key is?
[12:56] <gnomefreak> Jucato: is there a such thing as a mailing list reader?
[12:56] <dude> alex: actually, im downloading vmware, but there are errors
[12:56] <gnomefreak> ben_: i gpg key  can you give the full error please if more than a line or 2 please use pastebin
[12:57] <Ayabara> is wireshark in the kubuntu dapper repos?
[12:57] <Jucato> gnomefreak, mailing list? I'm not sure if Akregator handles that. or maybe KNode. but I'm sure as hell KMail can read mailing lists :P
[12:57] <gnomefreak> Jucato: trying to get them out of my inbox lol
[12:57] <Reik> moin ich habe heute kubuntu installiert und mit synaptic einige tools nachinstalliert, leider werden die nciht im kmenu angezeigt, wie z.b. firefox . Wie bekomme ich das kmenu daszu das diese angezeigt werden oder was tu ich damit dies automatisch geschiet? Also wie automatisiere ich das das wenn ich ein tool installiere das dann automatisch auch im kmenu angezeigt wird?
[12:57] <Jucato> !de
[12:57] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:57] <gnomefreak> Reik: /join #ubuntu-de
[12:57] <Reik> danke
[12:57] <gnomefreak> or kubuntu-de oops :(
[12:57] <gnomefreak> yw
[12:58] <Jucato> Ayabara, I don't think so
[12:58] <Reik> thx gnomefreak
[12:58] <gnomefreak> yw Reik :)
[12:58] <Jucato> gnomefreak, out of your webmail inbox?
[12:58] <gnomefreak> Jucato: yes :(
[12:58] <ben_> gnomefreak: all i got was an error alert box, what can i type into Konsole to get the full error?
[12:58] <gnomefreak> Jucato: i get over 300 emails a day
[12:58] <gnomefreak> ben_: you would have to ask in #automatix
[12:58] <gnomefreak> ben_: its not supported by ubuntu
[12:59] <ben_> gnomefreak: thanks
[12:59] <gnomefreak> yw
[12:59] <Jucato> gnomefreak, ah but you'd still receive those in your e-mail, with or without a mailing list reader
[12:59] <gnomefreak> damn
[12:59] <Jucato> the reader would just get them from your inbox
[12:59] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmmm
[01:00] <Jucato> gnomefreak, probably time to unsubscribe from those that you don't really need :)
[01:00] <gnomefreak> if i wasnt admin or monterater of half of them i would
[01:00] <Jucato> how much space do you have in your e-mail account anyway?
[01:00] <gnomefreak> moterater
[01:00] <kasim> _alex: i cant say much to the GUI stuff. Is it a frontend to rdesktop? Most likely? I would use the 'rdesktop' CLI first, with some more than just '-e'. With '-g ..' you can have a Window to your linking
[01:00] <gnomefreak> Jucato: oh alot
[01:00] <gnomefreak> Jucato: its gmail
[01:01] <Jucato> perfect! :)
[01:01] <gnomefreak> Jucato: i have 6 or so gmail boxes lol
[01:01] <Jucato> lol
[01:01] <Jucato> now that's so much space :P
[01:01] <gnomefreak> yes and i have over 6000 emails i have to go through in one of my gmail boxes
[01:02] <Jucato> information overload :P
[01:02] <Jucato> gnomefreak, time to delegate some of the workload/admin/moderating duties then? :P
[01:02] <gnomefreak> Jucato: its a good idea that way you can use it for LP and people know who they are emailing
[01:02] <gnomefreak> Jucato: thought about hat too
[01:02] <gnomefreak> that
[01:03] <Jucato> gnomefreak, unless you want to set aside 1-hour blocks of time each day just to spend reading/browsing them
[01:03] <gnomefreak> i do that now but i dont read every bug digest :(
[01:05] <MHazem> !flash
[01:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:05] <Jucato> gnomefreak, btw, do you think it's just ok if I forward e-mails from my current Gmail account to a new<EMAIL_ADDRESS>account that I'll be making? that way, I won't have to bother my relatives who know my older account (which is based on my real name)?
[01:06] <gnomefreak> Jucato: should be gmail i think has a setting for that in settings menu when you log into your box
[01:06] <gnomefreak> also has auto respond when on vacation :)
[01:06] <Jucato> yeah, it's the only free e-mail service that has POP3 and forwarding support. I just feel like I'm trying to cheat Google. lol
[01:07] <gnomefreak> Jucato: they just spent over 1 billion dollars on youtube i would say cheat away :)
[01:07] <Jucato> lol
[01:07] <Jucato> (down with youtube!! long live Google Videos!!)
[01:08] <gnomefreak> lol
[01:08] <Jucato> hehehe
[01:09] <Jucato> sorry, YouTube doesn't offer you the option to download the video. so that's a big plus for Google Videos. unless of course you're on Windows, then you'd be forced to download them in Google Video Player format :P
[01:11] <gnomefreak> i didnt know about google videos heading to google to find out :)
[01:11] <Jucato> Just for those who'd might be interested in some KDE-related news: Mark Shuttleworth Becomes the First "Patron of KDE" (that's an actual title, and, no, it has nothing to do with "patron saints") http://dot.kde.org/1160932072/
[01:12] <Jucato> gnomefreak, heh. it has fewer videos compared to YouTube and is obviously less popular. but I like it for the download option :)
[01:13] <cpk2> erhm how do you open a .chm? file says MS Windows HtmlHelp Data
[01:14] <Jucato> cpk2, install kchmviewer
[01:14] <Jucato> !kchmviewer
[01:14] <ubotu> kchmviewer: CHM viewer for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3a-1 (dapper), package size 171 kB, installed size 568 kB
[01:14] <cpk2> well thats simple =P
[01:14] <Jucato> :)
[01:15] <wildchild> I can't compile gnash: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26985/
[01:15] <Jucato> !gnash
[01:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:22] <wildchild> !xgl
[01:22] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:24] <dude_> jucato: are you still there?
[01:28] <dbglt> what version of kde does edgy beta use?
[01:28] <abattoir> dbglt: 3.5.5
[01:28] <dude_> jucato: are you still there?
[01:30] <abattoir> dude_: he doesn't seem to be here, you need help with something?
[01:32] <blind_> where / how ca i get temperature and battery status ????
[01:32] <dude_> abattoir: yes, have you tried VMware?
[01:32] <abattoir> dbglt: mm sorry, didnt read your question properly, beta shipped w/ 3.5.4, edgy has 3.5.5 currently
[01:32] <abattoir> blind_: 'acpi' in the command line shows your batt status
[01:32] <abattoir> dude_: yes
[01:32] <dude_> abattoir: i downloaded the package
[01:33] <dude_> abattoir: but i don't know how to use it?
[01:33] <dude_> abattoir: : )
[01:33] <abattoir> blind_: '/proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature' should show your temp
[01:33] <abattoir> blind_: make that 'cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature' should show your temp
[01:33] <abattoir> dude_: you got vmware player?
[01:34] <dbglt> abattoir: thank you.
[01:34] <dude_> abattoir: yes
[01:34] <mikko> sorry for off-topic, but anyone know good channel for discussing creating intgelligent irc-bot + integrating it with search engine (our own)?
[01:34] <abattoir> dude_: you downloaded it from the vmware site, or from the repo?
[01:35] <dude_> abattoir: from the repo
[01:35] <abattoir> mikko: i think #suppybot , not very sure though
[01:35] <dbglt> is a seperate kubuntu repository needed?
[01:35] <mikko> abattoir: thanks!
[01:35] <dbglt> I'm just going to replace all instances of dapper with edgy in my sources/list
[01:35] <dbglt> (to update to edgy)
[01:36] <abattoir> dude_: ok, when installing the package, you weren't prompted to set it up?
[01:36] <abattoir> dude_: or did you manually download it?
[01:36] <abattoir> !upgrade
[01:36] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:36] <abattoir> dbglt: ^^^ follow the instructions for dapper->edgy
[01:37] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hello? i have an acer TM803LCi with centrino 1.6GHz, i am experiencing with kubuntu last version + backports problems with klaptop, particularly the only cpu power management profile that is active is "userspace" and when i klaptop i select another one neither the cpu freq profile or the selection inside klaptop changes... could you help me?
[01:38] <dude_> abattoir: actually, i don't know if it install
[01:38] <abattoir> dude_: what did you do exactly?
[01:39] <dude_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26988
[01:39] <dude_> abattoir: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26988
[01:40] <abattoir> dude_: try 'sudo apt-get -f install' , see if the same error message comes again...
[01:41] <debianman> KELLE
[01:43] <dude_> abattoir: same error i guess http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26991
[01:44] <abattoir> dude_: try 'sudo modprobe vmnet' and then 'sudo apt-get -f install' ...
[01:45] <abattoir> dude_: just tell me if it says something like Module not found, no need to paste it
[01:45] <dude_> abattoir: FATAL: Module vmnet not found.
[01:45] <dude_> abattoir: maybe i should download the whole package in the site
[01:45] <abattoir> it fails when setting up networking
[01:45] <dude_> ok
[01:45] <dude_> sorry
[01:46] <abattoir> no, i dont think that's the issue..
[01:46] <dude_> abattoir: so whats the issue?
[01:47] <abattoir> try running 'sudo vmware-config.pl'
[01:47] <bmo> error message of the day that's actually good, from the game trackballs (/usr/games/trackballs) Warning: too fast framerate
[01:47] <abattoir> that would run the configuration process again, and hopefully setup your networking properly
[01:47] <dude_> command not found
[01:49] <dude_> abattoir: i quit :)
[01:50] <abattoir> dude_: heh, so easily? :P
[01:51] <dude_> abattoir: i can;t get it working
[01:51] <abattoir> dude_: can you check if /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl exists?
[01:51] <dude_> no such file
[01:51] <abattoir> vmware has always been a pain for me, so i always use qemu... :P
[01:52] <abattoir> dude_: did you apt-get the file? or are you using dpkg -i manually?
[01:52] <dude_> what is qemu?
[01:52] <abattoir> !qemu
[01:52] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[01:52] <abattoir> dude_: its like vmware, but slower(even w/ kqemu)...
[01:53] <abattoir> dude_: but i guess the perfomance depends on your setup too
[01:53] <dude_> abattoir: you mean to say, vmware is faster ?
[01:53] <jende> cpk2: good day
[01:53] <abattoir> dude_: yes, relatively
[01:54] <cpk2> jende: day? just finished my work, going to sleep =(
[01:54] <neoj> vmware is a lot faster for me
[01:54] <akolyt> hello
[01:54] <neoj> (even with kqemu)
[01:54] <jende> cpk2: yep day...it's almost 2pm here
[01:54] <dude_> abattoir: ok...can we install it step by step? i downloaded the whole package on the site
[01:55] <abattoir> dude_: vmware?
[01:55] <dude_> abattoir:yes
[01:55] <abattoir> dude_: you need to tell me exactly what you did
[01:55] <abattoir> dude_: from which site?
[01:55] <abattoir> dude_: what package? how are you installing it
[01:56] <dude_> ok
[01:56] <dude_> wait
[01:56] <jende> zen2: Hi Buddy!How are ya?
[01:56] <dude_> the 36 MB package
[01:57] <_alex> Hi jende
[01:57] <jende> _alex: hi _alex
[01:58] <flopethedope> hey can anybody help me out for a minute?
[01:58] <dude_> abattoir: extracted
[01:59] <abattoir> dude_: ok, so you you were using the tar version?
[01:59] <dude_> abattoir: extracted in temp directory
[01:59] <_alex> Is there a tool to drive ventirad rpm like a windows tool called "CPU ...". I can t remeber the name :\
[01:59] <flopethedope> i've installed KDE on top of gnome but it doesn't let me choose KDE from my login options
[01:59] <flopethedope> anybody?
[01:59] <abattoir> dude_: run 'sudo vmware-install.pl' (or installer, don't remember that well) inside the dir.
[02:00] <jende> flopethedope: what do you mean? So you start the Box and when it comes to the login you can't choose?
[02:00] <flopethedope> yeah
[02:00] <dude_> abattoir: A previous installation of VMware software has been detected.
[02:01] <flopethedope> right now i'm using gnome and when i go to logoff user and then click options and then select session, KDE doesn't appear in the list
[02:01] <abattoir> dude_: Dude, tell me what you did exactly!!!
[02:01] <jende> flopethedope: which kubuntu version are you running?
[02:01] <abattoir> dude_: the first time, did you install the deb?
[02:01] <dude_> abattoir: yes, the one you said a while ago
[02:02] <_alex> Well the tool is called speedfan ... I need it to slow a ventirad.
[02:02] <_alex> jende: Do you know such a tool ?
[02:02] <flopethedope> i'm not exactly sure? i did aptitude install kubuntu-desktop :/
[02:02] <abattoir> dude_: well, its partially installed, so you either need to complete the installation or remove it