[05:46] <sloofus> windows still boots just fine
[05:46] <Tex_Nick> antonio_: does it have a level control on the cord or mute switch ?
[05:46] <poz> i think i installed it okay
[05:46] <sloofus> my bios still sees "ubuntu" however
[05:46] <antonio_> tex_nick: its not that
[05:47] <kunji>  fh: Yes, there are different type of windows that are supported.  The conky people do a good job explaining it in their documentation, I think it would depend on your desktop environment though.
[05:47] <cfhowlett> sloofus, as I found, even formatting the disk didn't kill the gpt table.
[05:47] <histo> _Dude_: http://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/0/864959809808921128/
[05:47] <poz> but i do not know how to enable it. any advise?
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> MK':you sugest i remove java from ubuntu?
[05:47] <kunji> fh: I would help more, but that's all I know offhand and I need to sleep now
[05:47] <sloofus> cfhowlett: dont depress me. this seems like an easy fix
[05:47] <_Dude_> histo: i read that post already
[05:47] <Juest> also
[05:47] <_Dude_> nothing in there works
[05:47] <cfhowlett> sloofus, oh it IS easy!  don't be depressed!
[05:47] <MK`> Well, I personally suggest removing java from any computer
[05:47] <sloofus> i cant seem to run gdisk though
[05:47] <Juest> every few times crash message appears
[05:47] <MK`> but that's beyond the scope of this channel
[05:47] <fh> thanks kunji, i'm using unity right now. good night :)
[05:47] <poz> how do i get cinnamon to work on ubuntn 12.04 lts?
[05:48] <Tex_Nick> antonio_:  in terminal try ... lsusb ... see if it's listed there
[05:48] <_Dude_> well nothing works unless you want to remove a bunch of packages
[05:48] <histo> _Dude_: Steam is in the software center?
[05:48] <Juest> system problem detected and/or sorry,ubuntu 12.10 had experienced an error
[05:48] <Sashmo> anyone know if there is a command in terminal that can tell me the maximum amps or current amps being usb on my usb bus??
[05:48] <cfhowlett> sloofus, no shortage of tutorials: search remove + gpt + install + ubuntu  choose one
[05:48] <sloofus> cfhowlett: please, help guide me in what I can do
[05:48] <_Dude_> i might as well let it do it.. that means i'm downgrading to the xorg packages in 12.04.1 and not the new ones in 12.04.2
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> !java > lotuspsychje
[05:48] <sloofus> ah
[05:48] <_Dude_> that's what it's trying to do when it tries to install 32bit libs
[05:48] <sloofus> cfhowlett:  much appreciated, ill be back shortly if i have questions if you dont mind
[05:48] <_Dude_> with any 32bit package
[05:48] <cfhowlett> sloofus, oi
[05:49] <antonio_> tex_nick: Bus 006 Device 002: ID 046d:0a0c Logitech, Inc. Clear Chat Comfort USB Headset
[05:49] <_Dude_> histo: i tried it in software center - same thing
[05:49] <_Dude_> actually on there you get another error that i've seen reported
[05:49] <MK`> _Dude_: is xdg-utils involved?
[05:49] <poz> how do i get cinnamon to work on ubuntn 12.04 lts?
[05:49] <cfhowlett> !cinnnamon
[05:49] <histo> _Dude_: Then you'll have to wait for Valve to release a fix or someone on their forums to find a solution
[05:49] <histo> _Dude_: Again it's not an issue with ubuntu.
[05:50] <_Dude_> histo: the package manager wanting to remove a bunch of packages when installing any 32 bit lib or package, is an issue with ubuntu
[05:50] <sloofus> cfhowlett: tut one starts off by recommending the application "gdisk". it isnt installed by default. sudo apt-get install gdisk give me E: Package 'gdisk' has no installation candidate
[05:50] <_Dude_> i've tried it with other packages
[05:50] <_Dude_> it's a 12.04.2 problem
[05:50] <_Dude_> i think there's even a bug report i came across regarding this
[05:50] <cfhowlett> sloofus, try a different tutorial.  the gpt-remove is the one I used IIRC
[05:50] <Sashmo> anyone know if there is a command in terminal that can tell me the maximum amps or current amps being usb on my usb bus??
[05:50] <sloofus> cfhowlett: 10-4 ty
[05:50] <poz> !cinnnamon
[05:50] <histo> _Dude_: please install the steam64 package in software center and be done
[05:51] <_Dude_> i tried it - doesn't work
[05:51] <poz> nothign
[05:51] <Juest> lol
[05:51] <cfhowlett> poz for help with cinnamon I suggest you ask in #mint ... it's not supported here
[05:51] <AcidRain2013> _Dude_: what issue are you having?
[05:51] <poz> oh
[05:51] <odra> Ugh I hate this desktop thing in ubuntu :c
[05:51] <poz> k thianks
[05:51] <_Dude_> The following packages have unmet dependencies: steam64: Depends: steam (= <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu1) but it is a virtual package
[05:51] <Juest> odra: get over it, install gnome-shell or get fedora, ubuntu sucks
[05:51] <cfhowlett> odra, logout.  choose a different desktop session.  login.
[05:51] <MK`> there's no 64-bit steam package. It just points to the 32-bit one
[05:51] <odra> The taskbar sucks so much it tries to make up for it by having workspaces!
[05:51] <histo> _Dude_: there's also a link for support right in the software center and it doesn't say #ubuntu.  IT's valve's deal they mantain the busted package if it's broken
[05:52] <_Dude_> that's the error i get with the 64bit package
[05:52] <histo> it's provided by them
[05:52] <_Dude_> others have the same problem
[05:52] <cfhowlett> Juest, you're trollng.  please take it elsewhere
[05:52] <antonio_> damnit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:52] <odra> Why clicking won't minimize? WHY!!!
[05:52] <ubuntuw1204> histo: should i install kde on ubutnu
[05:52] <MK`> _Dude_: I had that issue, I had to use their .deb, that worked
[05:52] <Juest> Im not a troll
[05:52] <_Dude_> lets forget about steam for a sec.. there's an issue with installing ANY 32bit package
[05:52] <_Dude_> on 12.04.2
[05:52] <MK`> hm
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> !offtopic | odra
[05:52] <_Dude_> it wants to remove the new quantal xorg files/packages
[05:52] <_Dude_> that are included with 12.04.2
[05:52] <dr_willis> workspaces have been around for.. well.. decades.. ;)
[05:52] <_Dude_> whenever you try to install a 32bit package
[05:52] <Juest> Odra is a troll
[05:52] <histo> ubuntuw1204: you can install whatever DE you want.
[05:53] <Juest> ubuntu hater
[05:53] <_Dude_> that is an issue with ubuntu 12.04.2 and not steam
[05:53] <MK`> _Dude_: can you install ia32-libs?
[05:53] <_Dude_> because i tried with other packages
[05:53] <Tex_Nick> antonio_:  see if this helps ... http://askubuntu.com/questions/131812/logitech-usb-headset-not-working-on-12-04
[05:53] <odra> I'm not a troll
[05:53] <ubuntuw1204> histo: which de is more stable?
[05:53] <_Dude_> mk: nope
[05:53] <MK`> huh. Definitely an ubuntu issue
[05:53] <_Dude_> i mean i can.. but it will remove stuff
[05:53] <Juest> Why software center asks auth so many times?
[05:53] <odra> What the heck is a troll.
[05:53] <MK`> what unmet dependencies does it have _Dude_ ?
[05:53] <odra> Juest: Get permanent sudo?
[05:53] <Juest> Wikipedia it
[05:53] <_Dude_> i have two choices: wait until someone fixes it or let it remove the stuff and downgrade to the 12.04.1 xorg packages
[05:53] <cfhowlett> ubuntuw1204, kde is not a distro.  It's a desktop environment.  You can try it out by installing kde
[05:53] <Juest> odra: lol, how?
[05:53] <odra> persistent even.
[05:53] <Juest> !root | odra
[05:53] <_Dude_> which is what the package manager is trying to do
[05:54] <_Dude_> basically downgrade to the 12.04.1 packages
[05:54] <odra> Juest: Sudo -l
[05:54] <odra> Also I didn't say persistent root. I said persistent sudo :/
[05:54] <_Dude_> from what i've read, i'm guessing people got it working by just letting it remove those xorg packages and downgrading to the 12.04.1 xorg packages
[05:54] <histo> _Dude_: Why do you not think this is a valve problem?
[05:54] <Juest> lol
[05:55] <cfhowlett> odra, root is disabled by default in ubuntu
[05:55] <_Dude_> but id on't want to downgrade lol so i was hoping there was another solution :p
[05:55] <Juest> Wish i can use root :P
[05:55] <histo> _Dude_: their package requrements are the issue i'm done discussing it.
[05:55] <ubuntuw1204> which Desktop Environment is more stable or more compatible with ubuntu?
[05:55] <odra> Again. I didn't say root O__O
[05:55] <Juest> ubuntuw1204: Unity, but it sux
[05:55] <histo> !best | ubuntuw1204
[05:55] <Juest> lol
[05:55] <histo> ubuntuw1204: recently unity really grew on me.
[05:55] <MK`> _Dude_: what does it say when you run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'?
[05:55] <histo> ubuntuw1204: which is the default DE
[05:55] <odra> I suppose in ubuntu you can get  "root" access by sudoing with an admin user.
[05:56] <_Dude_> histo: i'm not talking about just steam though.. any 32bit package causes the same problems
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> guys stick to ubuntu support
[05:56] <odra> So just sudo -l in your admin account.
[05:56] <cfhowlett> ubuntuw1204, all the recognized canonical distros have more than one DE.  try them and choose. they're all stable
[05:56] <histo> _Dude_: Why are you installing 32bit packages?
[05:56] <_Dude_> histo: if i try installing 32 bit libs, the package manager still wants to remove the quantal xorg packages
[05:56] <_Dude_> to get steam to work
[05:56] <_Dude_> or any 32bit app (might install skype later - i'm not sure that has a native 64bit version)
[05:56] <Juest> _Dude_: why install 32-bits on 64bits os? you should installed 32bits os
[05:57] <antonio_> damnit
[05:57] <MK`> _Dude_: what does it say when you run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'? :o
[05:57] <dr_willis> the 32bit should work on a 64bit ubuntu install
[05:57] <antonio_> ubuntu sucks!
[05:57] <histo> _Dude_: there IS A STEAM64 do you not see it?
[05:57] <ubuntuw1204> histo: so you suggest i should stick to unity?
[05:57] <Juest> antonio_: YOU SUCK TARDTROLL
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> !offtopic | antonio_
[05:57] <MK`> histo: steam64 is'a metapackage that installs the 32-bit one.
[05:57] <poz> how do i change desktop enviroments?
[05:57] <Juest> !ops antonio_ Troll
[05:57] <dr_willis> cant say i noticed a steam64 but i just grabbed the steam_latest.deb
[05:57] <antonio_> how come things just break in ubuntu?
[05:57] <poz> i dont seem to have that option
[05:57] <histo> ubuntuw1204: I would if it's your first experience with linux. See what you think. It's easy to change very easy.
[05:57] <_Dude_> histo: that's not 64bit, it links to the 32bit packages - still has 32bit dependences and i told you it doesn't work.. there's another error you get when you try to install it
[05:57] <dr_willis> poz:  at the login manager screen. theres a gear icon
[05:58] <cfhowlett> poz, logout.  choose a different session from the list.  login.
[05:58] <antonio_> my usb headset was working perfectly fine yesterday..then it just doesn't work today..bullshit
[05:58] <poz> a gear icon eh
[05:58] <AcidRain2013> i have a 64bit processor with 32bit os, no issues
[05:58] <dr_willis> about the only icon on the login screen near your name
[05:58] <poz> i will look harder, but i did not see an option
[05:58] <cfhowlett> !langaugeantonio_,
[05:58] <MK`> _Dude_... please respond, I am trying to help :P
[05:58] <ubuntuw1204> histo: how about gnome 3 ?
[05:58] <odra> What is this side bar thing called in ubuntu?
[05:58] <histo> !unity | ubuntuw1204
[05:58] <dr_willis> odra:  the left side launcher you mean?
[05:58] <Juest> ubuntuw1204: that's gnome-shell, it's available on fedora
[05:58] <odra> drYeah
[05:58] <poz> well i tryed installing a few differernt enviroements, the ubuntu defalt is no longer there...
[05:58] <histo> ubuntuw1204: unity is a shell runningn on tope of gnome3
[05:59] <poz> but i will be right back
[05:59] <BHXSpecter> man, I have fought all day to try and fix the error I got after installing Steam on ubuntu with no luck at all...stupid libdrm-nouveau2 error...has my system locked up so I can't do anything, but don't want to do a fresh install......to add to the problems, told desktop to upgrade to 12.10, but it froze and now I get a blank screen after selecting the kernel *fun day*
[05:59] <histo> Juest: it's availible in ubuntu also
[05:59] <AcidRain2013> odra: sudo aptitude install gnome-shell <--- save a life
[05:59] <cfhowlett> poz, unless you deleted it, it's there
[05:59] <okee> Did Ubuntu ever come up with a UEFI boot loader alternative for Windows 8?
[05:59] <Juest> yes i know
[05:59] <Juest> but it sucks
[05:59] <Tex_Nick> antonio_:  have you by any chance changed the usb port it was plugged into yesterday ?
[05:59] <Juest> no menu
[05:59] <FloodBot1> Juest: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:59] <histo> okee: yes
[05:59] <antonio_> tex_nick: don't think so
[05:59] <histo> !uefi | okee
[05:59] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/10228/whats-the-right-terminology-for-unitys-ui-elements/10245#10245
[05:59] <cfhowlett> okee, 12.04.2 has the uefi support ...
[05:59] <dr_willis> for what things are called
[05:59] <antonio_> I can hear sound on it just fine...not inputing my voice
[06:00] <histo> okee: keep in mind you need to use 64bit
[06:00] <ubuntuw1204> histo: should i install gnome shell and use gnome 3?
[06:00] <Juest> Why no 32bits ubuntu with uefi support like win8?
[06:00] <antonio_> damnit!
[06:00] <okee> Have you tried it?  How well does it work?  I am thinking of installing mint (Ubuntu edition), dual boot with win XP 32-bit on a 64-bit motherboard, and wondering if this is a good idea?
[06:00] <cfhowlett> antonio_, have you disabled speaking with the mic hardware switch?
[06:00] <antonio_> what hardware switch?
[06:00] <histo> ubuntuw1204: That's up to you. You can do whatever you want.
[06:00] <Juest> okee: Yes, i
[06:00] <Juest> lol
[06:00] <Juest> Doh
[06:00] <dr_willis> okee:  i recommend sticking with ubuntu , and not using mint.
[06:00] <ubuntuw1204> histo:  ok thanks a lot bye
[06:00] <Juest> okee: Sry
[06:00] <cfhowlett> antonio_, read your hardware manual.  the set has a voice mute button
[06:01] <histo> ubuntuw1204: You can also do all of this from a livecd and see which one you like. All the install disks are live bootable
[06:01] <antonio_> nope..its not that cfhowlett:
[06:01] <Juest> Mint is a spin of stable distros
[06:01] <_Dude_> mk`: doesn't return any output
[06:01] <MK`> Hm. Well that's good, means there's no package causing the issue I think
[06:01] <odra> Fine I'll install gnome shell
[06:02] <odra> Isn't a gnome that thing in snow white story btw?
[06:02] <histo> Juest: Do you have a ubuntu related support question?
[06:02] <Tex_Nick> antonio_:  did you have a look at the link i provided a bit ago ?
[06:02] <_Dude_> mk`: right, because i hit 'n' when it asked me if it wanted to remove those packages
[06:02] <antonio_> tex:nick: didn't help
[06:02] <Juest> histo: this channel is pissing me off really
[06:02] <_Dude_> mk`: and then i tried the steam deb package and then had to apt-get -f remove
[06:02] <poz> thank you everyone that helped me before. cinnamon seems to be working now
[06:02] <poz> so how many of you guys have experience with bitcoins?
[06:02] <histo> IdleOne: Thank you
[06:03] <Tex_Nick> antonio_:  try another usb connector
[06:03] <_Dude_> mk`: so it wouldn't keep me from installing anything else
[06:03] <cfhowlett> IdleOne, thanks
[06:03] <BHXSpecter> looks like it is safe to say not to use steam on ubuntu any time soon as it seems to just cause a lot of headaches :(
[06:03] <Tex_Nick> antonio_:  usb port
[06:03] <antonio_> tex_nick: tried that
[06:03] <dr_willis> steam is a little weird in how it does things from what ive seen.
[06:03] <histo> BHXSpecter: atleast until valve gets there stuff together.
[06:03] <histo> BHXSpecter: should be soon.
[06:03] <Juest> What happened?
[06:04] <AcidRain2013> valve is good. but it should be for free
[06:04] <histo> Juest: You were kicked by an operator
[06:04] <_Dude_> histo: and someone fixes the way 12.04.2 so it doesn't try and uninstall the new xorg quantal packages included with 12.04.2 whenever you try installing 32bit anything
[06:04] <cfhowlett> AcidRain2013, steam IS free
[06:04] <MK`> _Dude_: when you ran apt-get -f install, what did it attempt to install? Aside from the things it requested to remove
[06:04] <AcidRain2013> cfhowlett: rly?
[06:04] <cfhowlett> _Dude_, 12.04.2 precise doesnt' HAVE quantal packagees
[06:04] <histo> _Dude_: please explain what 32bit package you are trying to install that want's to remove xorg?
[06:05] <cfhowlett> AcidRain2013, steam is free.  games are not.
[06:05] <odra> Yes.
[06:05] <odra> Not just free software.
[06:05] <_Dude_> mk`: yes, but i didn't want to proceed because it's the same thing i'm getting
[06:05] <odra> AcidRain2013: You didn't know that? o__O
[06:05] <MK`> I mean, when it lists the packages to remove, it also lists the packages it is attempting to install. What were they?
[06:05] <AcidRain2013> cfhowlett: :/ snap.
[06:05] <odra> AcidRain2013: There are some free games. Such as TF2.
[06:06] <_Dude_> mk`: hold on let me try this again
[06:06] <AcidRain2013> odra: cfhowlett: so what your telling me is i can go buy lfd2 and install steam from repos, and play for free... online?
[06:06] <BHXSpecter> I installed it, first time I ran steam it said to add x-swat/x-updates to ppa, everything was up to date until adding that, when I told it to update it acted like it was going to do fine, but stopped on a dependency for libdrm-nouveau2 and now can't install/remove/update/upgrade or anything due to dependency error and no way to fix it apparently
[06:06] <dr_willis> TF2 is very impressive for a free game. ;)
[06:06] <cfhowlett> AcidRain2013, as I understand it, yes.
[06:06] <_Dude_> cfhowlett: i'm talking about these packages:  xserver-xorg-video-sis-lts-quantal xserver-xorg-video-sisusb-lts-quantal xserver-xorg-video-tdfx-lts-quantal xserver-xorg-video-trident-lts-quantal xserver-xorg-video-vesa-lts-quantal xserver-xorg-video-vmware-lts-quantal
[06:06] <_Dude_> cfhowlett: they are included in 12.04.2
[06:06] <odra> AcidRain2013: What?
[06:06] <_Dude_> cfhowlett: they backported some stuff in 12.04.2 and made it part of 12.04.2
[06:06] <MK`> 12.04.2 includes quantal backports yeah
[06:06] <histo> AcidRain2013: I don't think it's unreasonable that game developers want money for spending countless hours and money making a game. Wouldn't you contribute to an humble indie bundle?
[06:07] <odra> AcidRain2013: You install steam from the repo, buy lfd2, install it from steam, and play it.
[06:07] <odra> Since you bought lfd2 it's not free lol
[06:07] <_Dude_> cfhowlett: "To help support a broader range of hardware, the 12.04.2 release adds an updated kernel and X stack for new installations on x86 architectures, and matches the ability of 12.10 to install on systems using UEFI firmware with Secure Boot enabled."
[06:07] <cfhowlett> _Dude_, my bad.  just torrenting 12.4.2 now and hav not installed yet.
[06:07] <AcidRain2013> histo: just as linux does. i will donate.
[06:07] <dr_willis> left4dead does not have a native linux port from what im seeing...
[06:07] <cfhowlett> _Dude_, learn something new every day ...
[06:07] <dr_willis> so its not going to be runable from the linux steam client
[06:07] <histo> _Dude_: Where are you seeing that?
[06:08] <_Dude_> histo: whenever i install 32bit anything
[06:08] <_Dude_> histo: libs, programs, steam, doesn't matter
[06:08] <histo> _Dude_: I have no quantal packages here on 12.04.2
[06:08] <AcidRain2013> odra: well i didnt say i bought it ;) how i acquire games apparently will get you ban
[06:08] <MK`> _Dude_ please put the entire output of apt-get -f install on http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[06:08] <MK`> so we can peruse it
[06:08] <Brewmaster619> I just tried Steam about two hours ago..it won't run, an icon shows on the launcher for about 10 seconds, then disappears
[06:08] <Tex_Nick> antonio_:  in "system settings" / sound / input ... what do you see there ?
[06:08] <_Dude_> mk`: ok
[06:08] <histo> _Dude_: are you sure your didn't backport some things?
[06:09] <_Dude_> histo: yea i'm sure - i turned off the backports option under software sources
[06:09] <_Dude_> histo: i did that before i did an apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[06:09] <_Dude_> histo: i also saw a lot of other people having the same problem
[06:09] <histo> _Dude_: I have no quantal packages here and i'm up to date
[06:09] <GeekSquid>  Brewmaster619 you can try to run it in a terminal and see what kind of output it is spitting out and see if it is missing something somewhere
[06:10] <histo> _Dude_: cat /etc/issue     please
[06:10] <BHXSpecter> this is basically the error I get when I do anything for trying to update/remove/install/upgrade..in this case I tried doing a force remove http://paste.ubuntu.com/1675787/
[06:10] <aPpYe> I am wondering why the kde-desktop metapackage requires anacron ... is it required for the update manager to work properly?
[06:10] <_Dude_> Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS :p
[06:10] <_Dude_> i know what i'm using lol
[06:10] <_Dude_> i just installed it like last night
[06:11] <_Dude_> i've been using ubuntu since 8.04 and before that linux on and off over the years (though never as a main os until ubuntu)
[06:11] <_Dude_> hold on let me try and installt his game and post stuff on pastebin for you guys to look at
[06:11] <_Dude_> *this again
[06:12] <AcidRain2013> _Dude_: it may take years for Steam to make a perfect client.
[06:12] <AcidRain2013> well id say if they havent done it in 2ish, then they will remove project
[06:12] <_Dude_> acidrain2013: oh i have no doubt of that.. but my issue doesn't just occur with trying to install steam
[06:13] <GeekSquid> aPpYe: Consider as a sys admin, wouldn't you want to be able to schedule tasks from your desktop
[06:13] <_Dude_> seems like 32bit anything is broken in 12.04.2
[06:13] <histo> !info xserver-xorg-video-sis-lts-quantal precise
[06:13] <_Dude_> when trying to install it using the package manager
[06:13] <histo> hrm...
[06:13] <AcidRain2013> _Dude_: did you do a upgrade to distro from another version?
[06:13] <wiggmpk> GeekSquid: system admin and desktop is more of a Windows mindset
[06:13] <suka|janda> wtf http://thehackernews.com/2012/12/ubuntu-linux-is-spyware.html
[06:13] <_Dude_> acidrain2013: no fresh install
[06:14] <MK`> suka|janda: amazon? old news
[06:14] <Brewmaster619> anyone know what PAC is?  I ran steam in a terminal, and among other things, it complained about lack of PAC support, don't know w hat that is.
[06:14] <dr_willis> suka|janda:  old news. and basically FUD. and not really On topic.
[06:14] <BHXSpecter> _Dude_: be glad you are having my problem. Spent the whole day at steam forums just to be told a fresh install was the only way to fix my error (which was brought about after installing steam and doing what it said to do)
[06:14] <cfhowlett> suka|janda, easily bypassed by login with a different deskktop environment.  no unity, no amazon lens
[06:14] <wiggmpk> suka|janda: pure speculation of someone's opinion
[06:15] <dr_willis> suka|janda:  and  you can disable the amazon lens if you want to
[06:15] <AcidRain2013> _Dude_: how long ago did you do this fresh install?
[06:15] <Brewmaster619> amazon leans easy to disable
[06:15] <suka|janda> nice info dude
[06:15] <dr_willis> wife likes the amazon lens.. makes her shopping easier..
[06:16] <Brewmaster619> I liked it better when somone got me an amazon gift card....
[06:16] <_Dude_> acidrain2013: actually i did it within the last 24 hours, like sunday afternoon
[06:16] <histo> _Dude_: In the release notes it says the stack is only indeded for use on x86 hardware
[06:16] <Juest> hey, it's normal if steam takes long to start up?
[06:16] <histo> _Dude_: do you have the linux-generic-lts-quantal  and xserver-xorg-lts-quantal packages installed?
[06:16] <AcidRain2013> _Dude_: then my advice to you, is to take the 20min that it takes for ubuntu to install, and install a better flavor
[06:16] <BHXSpecter> my day and a half 'tech support' for trying to fix my problem => http://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/0/864959809948651461/
[06:17] <odra> AcidRain2013: ...
[06:17] <odra> AcidRain2013: You have to buy the game in steam.
[06:17] <histo> _Dude_: Please look above.... let me know.
[06:17] <odra> AcidRain2013: That is one of the two main points of steam existing.
[06:17] <AcidRain2013> odra: i havent ever used steam:/
[06:17] <odra> I noticed.
[06:17] <_Dude_> histo: right, this is x86 hardware (64bit x86 hardware) and on the ubuntu site, all download links go to 12.04.2 (even 64bit).. there are 64bit isos
[06:17] <AcidRain2013> lol
[06:17] <_Dude_> histos: maybe it's not important, but i did use the alternate disk to install
[06:17] <AcidRain2013> x86 = 32bit?
[06:18] <wiggmpk> AcidRain2013: correct
[06:18] <histo> _Dude_: Do you have those packages installed?
[06:18] <_Dude_> usually they say i386 for 32bit
[06:18] <_Dude_> hold on
[06:18] <poz> anyone know what file to add ppa's too?
[06:18] <histo> _Dude_: dpkg -l | grep quantal
[06:18] <poz> i forget
[06:18] <dr_willis> Juest:  steam takes about 30-40 sec to start here..  ive never really counted..
[06:18] <AcidRain2013> _Dude_: right. you cannot run 64bit software on 32bit hardware... to my knowledge
[06:18] <wiggmpk> 386, 686, x86, all = 32bit
[06:18] <cfhowlett> _Dude_, idiotic question to ask , but have your run get dist-upgrade recently   ?
[06:18] <_Dude_> histo: yes i have those installed
[06:18] <histo> _Dude_: please remove them. I don't know how you got them installed
[06:19] <_Dude_> cfhowlett: there's no other updates to install so dist-upgrade wouldn't do anything
[06:19] <_Dude_> histo: hmm really
[06:19] <dr_willis> there could be some held packages. that dist-uprade may pull in
[06:19] <cfhowlett> _Dude_, ...  indulge me ...
[06:19] <histo> _Dude_: I don't have them on my system running 12.04.2 64bit here
[06:20] <histo> _Dude_: Did you install from a 12.04.1 cd?
[06:20] <_Dude_> well if there not meant to be installed, and if the desktop disk doesn't install them, but the alternate disk does - then the alternate disk is borked
[06:20] <_Dude_> seems it would be a bug with the alternate disk
[06:20] <_Dude_> histo: no 12.04.2 iso that i put on a usb stick
[06:20] <poz> what file do i add ppa's to?
[06:20] <cfhowlett> !ppa|poz,
[06:20] <wiggmpk> _Dude_: what packages are you referring to because I install always from the alternate disk
[06:20] <histo> _Dude_: Ahh then it may have been installed by default
[06:20] <AcidRain2013> what is that one game for ubuntu called? terrorist hunt?
[06:20] <AcidRain2013> its an open source game
[06:20] <histo> wiggmpk: these new hardware stack packages
[06:21] <_Dude_> the quantal packages that they include in 12.04.2 (at least that's what i assumed)
[06:21] <dr_willis> poz:   best to use the ppa manager commands.. they have files  n /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[06:21] <cfhowlett> AcidRain2013, urban something or other
[06:21] <AcidRain2013> cfhowlett: thats it. let me google
[06:21] <dr_willis> Urban Terror
[06:21] <wiggmpk> histo: new as in just updated?
[06:21] <histo> wiggmpk: yes with 12.04.2 release
[06:21] <poz> thank you
[06:22] <AcidRain2013> http://www.urbanterror.info/home/
[06:22] <histo> _Dude_: are you sure your running 64bit please issue the uname -a command
[06:22] <histo> wiggmpk: In an effort to support a wider variety of hardware on an existing LTS release, the 12.04.2 point release will ship with an updated kernel and X stack by default. This newer hardware enablement stack will be comprised of the kernel and X stack from the Quantal 12.10 release.
[06:22] <_Dude_> histo: yes i am sure.. i downloaded the 64bit iso - i've ran uname -a before, but i'll do it again for you
[06:22] <histo> please
[06:22] <_Dude_> histo: Linux matt-desktop 3.5.0-23-generic #35~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 25 17:13:26 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[06:22] <histo> hrm..
[06:23] <_Dude_> 3.5.0 is the new kernel from quantal
[06:23] <_Dude_> that was backported
[06:23] <_Dude_> 12.04.1 comes with like 3.2 kernel by default unless you run apt-get install on those packages that happen to have quantal on the end
[06:23] <_Dude_> at least that's what i read
[06:23] <histo> _Dude_: Yeah my system isn't even installing 3.5
[06:23] <wiggmpk> histo: im running 3.2.0-37-generic on 12.04.2
[06:23] <_Dude_> so that's why i assume this is normal to have those installed
[06:23] <_Dude_> histo: huh odd
[06:24] <histo> wiggmpk: Right but if you install from disk today he's saying you'll be running 3.5
[06:24] <wiggmpk> histo: interesting
[06:24] <histo> _Dude_: you can obtain an 12.04.1 CD from old-releases.ubuntu.com
[06:24] <wiggmpk> histo: guess i'll download it and throw it in VM
[06:24] <histo> _Dude_: I would also file a bug
[06:24] <histo> wiggmpk: I am right now also
[06:24] <histo> wait I just downloaded mini.iso
[06:24] <_Dude_> histo: i also have a 12.04.1 alternate and desktpo image (wishing i installed that instead lol)
[06:24] <wiggmpk> histo: are we talking strictly alternate image or the desktop image too?
[06:24] <EpicCyndaquil> does  libmozjs2d_<IP_ADDRESS>-10_amd64.deb or something similar exist within the standard ubuntu repo?
[06:25] <_Dude_> i had used the desktop image to install 12.04.1 on another, but on this one i put 12.04.2 on it
[06:25] <_Dude_> i was about to install 12.04.1 on this but then saw 12.04.2 was released
[06:25] <_Dude_> like 4-5 days after i downloaded the alternate image
[06:25] <histo> wiggmpk: well i'm trying the 64bit mini.iso right now we'll see.
[06:26] <wiggmpk> histo: for 12.04 right?
[06:26] <dr_willis> once you do an apt-get update. apt-get upgrad eon a 12.04.1 instell.. it should be identical to 12.04.2
[06:26] <_Dude_> actually you have to install the new kernel and xorg packages manually if you want them if you're going from 12.04.1 -> 12.04.2 (not sure if it only becomes 12.04.2 when you install those packages)
[06:26] <histo> wiggmpk: _Dude_ Perform an update or upgrade to Precise from a previous Ubuntu release. Only those installing from the 12.04.2 media will automatically receive a newer hardware enablement stack by default.
[06:27] <histo> dr_willis: that's not the case anymore
[06:27] <dr_willis> a dist-upgrade  should pull those in i would imagine.
[06:27] <histo> dr_willis: wiggmpk _Dude_ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop#LTS_Hardware_Enablement_Stack
[06:27] <histo> dr_willis: I just did a dist-upgrade it doesnt
[06:27] <dr_willis> histo:  that would seem... weird...
[06:27] <wiggmpk> histo: thanks
[06:28] <dr_willis> but im on 12.10 :) so cant test
[06:29] <StormTwo> hey is there any of you guys that could help me with terminal?
[06:29] <dr_willis> give us some details StormTwo
[06:29] <histo> dr_willis: Additionally, anyone upgrading to Precise will not be automatically upgraded to the new Quantal enablement stack. Again, they can electively choose to do so by manually installing the appropriate meta package.
[06:29] <librarystudent02> -_-
[06:29] <Tex_Nick> about 6 monts ago i burned 14 DVD's in win xp .with identical parameters .. i verified the disks after burning ... only one of the disks will read in quantal ... any ideas why ?
[06:29] <_Dude_> i'm pretty sure by x86 they mean 32bit and 64bit (the 64bit download option on ubuntu.com will also get you the 64bit iso of 12.04.2 which comes with the enablement stack from quantal)
[06:30] <_Dude_> which is what i installed
[06:30] <_Dude_> and despite the problem with the 32bit libs, everything works great
[06:30] <StormTwo> for example, how could terminal fix the computer booting problem
[06:30] <StormTwo> ?
[06:30] <dr_willis> histo:  sounds like somthing thats going to cause a lot of confuseion.
[06:30] <histo> _Dude_: Yeah i think so
[06:30] <histo> dr_willis: Oh yeah. plus _Dude_ is saying it breaks 32bit compatibility
[06:31] <StormOne> Hi guys i have a big meatus
[06:31] <GTFO> what the hell is that?
[06:31] <Guest31726> hello
[06:31] <_Dude_> yea it does unless you want to remove part of the enablement stack (the xorg packages).. which i guess works too because some people on the steam forums who probably doesn't understand that they are uninstalling a lot of stuff are doing it anyway
[06:31] <_Dude_> to get steam working
[06:32] <_Dude_> and they say it works
[06:32] <dr_willis> Try a more original Nik. ;)
[06:32] <_Dude_> so maybe is hould just do that.. it's not like i have anything important on this linux install (yet anyway)
[06:32] <wiggmpk> The hardware enablement stack is only intended for use on x86 hardware at this time.
[06:32] <_Dude_> so if i bork it i can just reinstall
[06:32] <histo> dr_willis: wow you have to read this if you have a minute https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack  all kinds of issues are going to be coming here.
[06:32] <Guest31726><PHONE_NUMBER>-=qwertyiop[]\asdfghjkl;'zxcvbnm,./
[06:32] <StormTwo> get a girlfriend GTFO , i know its you
[06:32] <dr_willis> histo:  :) time for a new factoid i guess..
[06:33] <histo> _Dude_: Yeah let me know If you can remove the quantal stack. You can't use the quantal kernel with precise X or quantal X with precise kernel. YOu need both precise kernel and X according to the site I just pasted
[06:33] <Guest31726><PHONE_NUMBER>-=qwertyuiop[]\asdfghjkl;'zxcvbnm,./
[06:33]  * cfhowlett ... wishes the meteorite had turned left at Albuquerque and smacked 900 trolls and netchatidiots
[06:33] <Guest31726><PHONE_NUMBER>-=qwertyuiop[]\asdfghjkl;'zxcvbnm,./
[06:33] <StormTwo> stop spamming Guest31726
[06:33] <histo> dr_willis: For instance if the stack is installed you can upgrade to quantal.  The packages versions are newer than those in quantal.  This machine is just a bit laggy with unity
[06:39] <josvis> any Ubuntu alternative for capturing video&audio from TV-decoder? Can use Pinnacle Studio in Windows (Dual boot) with TV-decoder connected to Pinnacle Dazzle DVC 130 to record video & audio, edit same and burn content to DVD. Want to switch to Ubuntu.
[06:39] <AirCombat> see the ubottu told me to install gnome-shell but I dont get a session drop-down with 12.10
[06:39] <odra> I installed gnome-shell through apt-get. But nothing changed.
[06:39] <odra> What am I supposed to do now?
[06:39] <cfhowlett> odra, you have to select that DE before you login
[06:39] <odra> Do I have to restart for it to change? Maybe roll the batteries I dunno
[06:39] <histo> PeterGriffin: library-student-03
[06:39] <odra> cfhowlett: DE?
[06:39] <cfhowlett> josvis, vlc has a capture mode
[06:40] <cfhowlett> odra, desktop environment
[06:40] <Nz17> How do I make sure environmental variables exist for all shells/non-shells and not just bash? i.e., Like .bashrc but for all.
[06:40] <AirCombat> im wondering the same thing: at my login screen I dont see any options to change the DE.
[06:40] <odra> cfhowlett: I haven't actually selected any. Does it stay as default after you select it once?
[06:40] <cfhowlett> odra, yes it does
[06:41] <AirCombat> is it true that 12.10 has no more dropdown menu for DE?
[06:41] <odra> AirCombat: I think it's the circle button on the login screen in the top right of your account name
[06:41] <cfhowlett> AirCombat, on 12.10 logout.  find the "gear" icon.  select a different de from the dropdown menu.  login.
[06:41] <odra> That is a gear?
[06:41] <AirCombat> okay, thanks a lot guys :) brb
[06:41] <cfhowlett> odra, round thingy ...
[06:41] <odra> I thought it was the unity icon
[06:41] <KI4RO> LOL
[06:42] <krnxrat> I'm new, and I screwed up bad (I think). I was on GParted, and I unmounted a partition. Now I can't load up windows 7. Help?
[06:43] <histo> krnxrat: Unmounting a partition won't hurt anything did you do anything else?
[06:43] <krnxrat> Not really, the thing is i unmounted the partition even after I received an error
[06:44] <odra> Woo
[06:44] <odra> I'm on gnome shell now :D
[06:45] <odra> And clicking stuff in the taskbar still won't minimize them.
[06:45] <odra> But, the taskbar looks cooler.
[06:45] <histo> odra: the menu bar?
[06:45] <histo> krnxrat: what error did you receive?
[06:45] <odra> Why can't it be task bar?
[06:46] <odra> Why is there a task bar in windows, a launch bar in unit and a menu bar in gnome shell?
[06:46] <histo> krnxrat: Also what happens when you try and start windows?
[06:46] <krnxrat> This one "Error informing the kernel about modifications to partition /dev/sda3 -- Device or resource busy.  This means Linux won't know about any changes you made to /dev/sda3 until you reboot -- so you shouldn't mount it or use it in any way before rebooting."
[06:46] <krnxrat> and this one "Partition(s) 2 on /dev/sda have been written, but we have been unable to inform the kernel of the change, probably because it/they are in use.  As a result, the old partition(s) will remain in use.  You should reboot now before making further changes."
[06:46] <AirCombat> odra, LOL
[06:46] <histo> odra: the menubar is at the top. the launch bar is on the left both in unity and I believe gnome has one.
[06:46] <AirCombat> im just logging in/out to see how it runs... brb
[06:47] <odra> Ok. So...
[06:47] <histo> odra: Windows has a tasks bar because "tasks" or applications are listed there. This is not the case in unity or gnome shell.
[06:47] <odra> How can I click to minimize in the "menu bar"
[06:47] <krnxrat> and when I try to boot up windows, it gives me the option to either go into recovery (which doesn't work without the CD) or start normally. If I start normally it stays on the "Starting windows" screen
[06:47] <histo> odra: mouse up on the menubar and click the minimize button
[06:48] <odra> histo: I can't find a minimize button.
[06:48] <histo> odra: or take the window out of full screen mode and window controls will be in the upper left corner of the window
[06:48] <cfhowlett> krnxrat, 1. your windows install is still there (probably) 2. you need the windows disk to repair windows
[06:48] <apb1963_> Is this something that I should be concerned about?  The following packages have been kept back:    linux-generic-pae linux-image-generic-pae 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[06:48] <odra> Oh this is great. Before I had a launcher that didn't minimize windows if I clicked their icons. Now I lost even the minimize button in the windows.
[06:48] <krnxrat> 1. will i lose my files
[06:48] <cfhowlett> apb1963_, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade should install those
[06:48] <krnxrat> 2. if so is there any way to recover some docs?
[06:49] <histo> odra: can you post a screen shot?
[06:49] <histo> !paste | odra
[06:49] <cfhowlett> krnxrat, no they're still there.  you just can't get to them yet
[06:49] <cfhowlett> krnxrat, download a windows iso from the digitalriver store, make a windows usb, boot, repair.
[06:49] <sv_in> I just upgraded from 10.04 LTS to 12.04 LTS. Now when I try to login with my account (with correct password), ubuntu is bringing me back to login page with no error message. Guest session is working fine. Any ideas?
[06:49] <krnxrat> alright, thank you. I know this is a stretch, but any speculation into how this might have happened?
[06:50] <AirCombat> sweet, GNOME seems better.
[06:50] <felix___> Hi, I've been having difficulty installing ubuntu 12.10 with full disk encryption.  When I reboot after installation, cryptsetup fails thinking I have a bad password.  Has anybody encountered this ?
[06:50] <Guest18379> Hi All
[06:50] <AirCombat> odra, do you like it better than unity?
[06:50] <cfhowlett> krnxrat, not famiialr with that particular error message.  sorry.
[06:50] <Guest18379> I am facing problem in my Ubuntu 12.04 LTS system
[06:50] <cfhowlett> Guest18379, details please
[06:51] <sv_in> I just upgraded from 10.04 LTS to 12.04 LTS. Now when I try to login with my account (with correct password), ubuntu is bringing me back to login page with no error message. Guest session is working fine. Any ideas?
[06:51] <Guest18379> I am not able to surf internet by using MTS Mblaze
[06:51] <Guest18379> Please help me
[06:51] <odra> histo: http://imagebin.org/247132
[06:51] <cfhowlett> Guest18379, that's an isp?
[06:52] <Guest18379> It MTS internet service provider
[06:52] <krnxrat> Ok, thank you. Also, previously I was trying to migrate my wubi install onto a 50gb partition, but terminal gave me an error telling me that it was open or accessed by something else. Is there a way to kill whatever process or whatever that was accessing it?
[06:52] <cfhowlett> Guest18379, so no internet at all?  you might want to check wiith MTS
[06:52] <cfhowlett> krnxrat, ps -ax to see open processes.
[06:53] <histo> odra: How'd you manage to do that?  That's wierd. I'd imagine some thing got messed up in gconf
[06:53] <mikili> hi all
[06:53] <cfhowlett> mikili, greetings
[06:53] <Guest18379> Actually the problem is that Mobile Internet option is disable by defalut
[06:53] <Guest18379> and I have to enable it
[06:53] <cfhowlett> Guest18379, OK.  and???
[06:53] <AirCombat> histo, no I dont have minimize buttons either. just noticed that too
[06:53] <krnxrat> thank you
[06:53] <odra2> huh
[06:53] <Guest18379> then it showing me error modem is disabled
[06:54] <odra2> I accidentally disconnected while pressing buttons in the "menu bar"
[06:54] <histo> AirCombat: odra2 what version of ubuntu are you guys running?
[06:54] <AirCombat> 12.10
[06:54] <cfhowlett> Guest18379, what version of ubutnu
[06:54] <odra2> 12.10 :/
[06:54] <Guest18379> 12.04 LTS
[06:55] <AirCombat> however, odra2 try putting your mouse in the very top left corner. kind of a cool feature
[06:55] <odra2> AirCombat: Well yeah
[06:55] <odra2> But that is not a minimize button
[06:55] <AirCombat> true
[06:55] <histo> AirCombat: what does that do?
[06:55] <histo> AirCombat: i'm on 12.04 so I can't see
[06:55] <odra2> Actually like I said.
[06:55] <odra2> There is no minimize button.
[06:55] <AirCombat> it shows a preview of all open windows
[06:56] <cfhowlett> Guest18379, I'm in china and can't see results but MTS + mblaze + ubuntu + 1204 search returned several hits to set up ubuntu
[06:56] <AirCombat> why is minimize such a big deal?
[06:56] <Guest18379> Ok
[06:56] <dr_willis> gnome-shell has settings to have the min/max/close buttons
[06:56] <Guest18379> So any guess why this is happening?
[06:56] <AirCombat> odra2, just right-click at the top of a window
[06:56] <dr_willis> I got a theme that shows just the close button. but the min/max buttons are still there.. just sort of hidden by default
[06:56] <cfhowlett> Guest18379, you didn't set things up yet.  see the links ...
[06:56] <AirCombat> or hit ctrl-alt-0
[06:57] <odra2> Oh there it is!
[06:57] <odra2> But why is it like that O__O
[06:57] <histo> AirCombat: odra2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/1098788
[06:57] <Guest18379> I cant see the links?
[06:57] <AirCombat> there you go. that's just the way it is in GNOME ubuntu I guess
[06:57] <AirCombat> I kinda like it.
[06:57] <cfhowlett> Guest18379, do the search, see the links
[06:58] <AirCombat> leaves the windows mentality behind
[06:58] <histo> AirCombat: what does ctrl+alt+o do on your system?
[06:58] <AirCombat> same thing as right-clicking and choosing minimize
[06:58] <arrenlex> Hi, everyone. After I installed a second graphics card into my computer, Ubuntu enters an infinite reboot loop. Annoyingly, Windows 7 boots fine. Any ideas for troubleshooting this?
[06:59] <histo> AirCombat: try gsettings reset org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferrences button-layout
[06:59] <Guest18379> ok
[06:59] <histo> odra2: what does gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences button-layout   return?
[06:59] <histo> AirCombat: type in preferences
[07:00] <histo> AirCombat: sorry typo in preferences
[07:00] <AirCombat> sorry?
[07:00] <AirCombat> oh lol
[07:00] <odra2> close,minimize,maximize
[07:00] <histo> AirCombat: I gave you two R's  please type in a terminal gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences button-layout
[07:00] <histo> odra2: Hrm.. those buttons should be there.
[07:00] <AirCombat> same as odra2
[07:00] <odra2> I just realized a thing. :/
[07:01] <histo> odra2: AirCombat Are you both using gnome-shell and not unity?
[07:01] <odra2> GIMP has two windows. The main window and a toolbox.
[07:01] <AirCombat> as far as I know. I'm definitely not using unity anymore
[07:01] <odra2> And yet only one shows in this weird "activities" thing or whatever. But if I click it both windows show.
[07:01] <odra2> I wonder what kind of sorcery is this.
[07:01] <dr_willis> odra2:  theres some sort of gimp-single window mode also.
[07:02] <histo> odra2: because one window is the main window the others are closable and the main will stay open with gimp.
[07:02] <odra2> dr_willis: Yes I know. But I'm more interested in how did it turn out like that.
[07:02] <odra2> histo: Hmm.............
[07:02] <odra2> I need to learn how to make windows like that.
[07:02] <histo> odra2: AirCombat yeah if you aren't using unity that's what happened to the minimize button
[07:02] <dr_willis> ive not followed what the actual issue is. ;) but its lunch time for me.
[07:02] <histo> nom nom
[07:03] <dr_willis> gnome-shell has only the close button. ;) its tweakable.
[07:03] <odra2> You know
[07:03] <odra2> I showed the screenshot.
[07:03] <dr_willis> I wonder if im the only one that tends to just fullscreen every thing these days
[07:03] <AirCombat> !screenshot
[07:03] <AirCombat> oops lol.
[07:04] <odra2> Hmm :/
[07:04] <odra2> Is the "menu bar" supposed to show only one window at a time.
[07:04] <AirCombat> odra2, yes, as far as I can tell
[07:06] <Tex_Nick> odra : for those that use multi monitor setup ... the gimp workspace can fill an entire monitor, while the toolbars can be moved onto another monitor ... photoshop, illustrator, autocad & other graphics heavy apps also do that :)
[07:07] <sv_in> I just upgraded from 10.04 LTS to 12.04 LTS. Now when I try to login with my account (with correct password), ubuntu is bringing me back to login page with no error message. Guest session is working fine. Any ideas?
[07:07] <odra> Tex_Nick: I'm wondering because I'm making an app and I would like the windows to be grouped like that
[07:10] <Tex_Nick> odra : ok ... cool design practice ... if your app workspace demands a lot of screenspace :)
[07:10] <rohit_> Hi
[07:11] <rohit_> I am facing problem in connecting my Mblaze data card
[07:11] <dr_willis> jello
[07:11] <Guest15660> Please help me
[07:11] <Guest15660> ??
[07:11] <cfhowlett> Guest15660, did you not find a tutorial that works
[07:12] <Guest15660> No
[07:12] <Guest15660> It seems that its a bug in 12.04
[07:12] <cfhowlett> Guest15660.  If it's an unfixed bug, not much we can do ...
[07:13] <cfhowlett> Guest15660, have you checked with the ubuntu india resources?
[07:13] <AirCombat> is odra still here?\
[07:13] <AirCombat> I solved the problem
[07:13] <AirCombat> if you want a minimize button, that is
[07:14] <AirCombat> open a terminal, type in sudo apt-get install gnome-tweak-tool and then run it. it has options to add minimize, etc
[07:15] <usr13> rohit_ http://www.mtsindia.in/MUltra/download/AC2791%20User%20Guide.pdf
[07:15] <AirCombat> darn, I thought someone would be excited, lol.
[07:16] <KI4RO> YaY for AirCombat!
[07:17] <usr13> !info gnome-tweak-tool
[07:17] <cfhowlett> !cookie|usr13,   nice one
[07:17] <silv3r_m00n> I have libgtk-3 installed, but it still says "error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-3.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[07:17] <silv3r_m00n> how to fix
[07:17] <AirCombat> lol
[07:17] <AirCombat> hey, I want a cookie too! I helped... lol
[07:18] <arrenlex> silv3r_m00n: What are you trying to run?
[07:18] <cfhowlett> !cookie|AirCombat,   ask and ye shall recieve
[07:18] <usr13> silv3r_m00n: What version of Ubuntu?
[07:18] <AirCombat> odra, you could even set right-clicking the menu bar to minimize it. this tool has a whole lot of cool stuff
[07:18] <silv3r_m00n> arrenlex: ubuntu 12.10 trying to run neonview image viewer
[07:19] <arrenlex> silv3r_m00n: Is your Ubuntu 64-bit or 32-bit? Is your image viewer 64-bit or 32-bit?
[07:20] <silv3r_m00n> arrenlex: ubuntu is 64bit, don't know about the program
[07:20] <usr13> silv3r_m00n: apt-get install ia32-libs-gtk
[07:20] <silv3r_m00n> I think that might be the reason
[07:20] <usr13> silv3r_m00n: What is the program?
[07:20] <silv3r_m00n> ia32-libs is already the newest version.
[07:20] <silv3r_m00n> usr13: neonview
[07:21] <arrenlex> silv3r_m00n: sudo apt-get install libgtk-3-0:i386
[07:21] <Guest15660> Ubuntu  12.04
[07:21] <AirCombat> see ya, thanks for the help everyone
[07:22] <FelixTheCat> i am trying to install ubuntu on my old laptop however when i boot the installer it just gives me a busybox prompt
[07:22] <silv3r_m00n> arrenlex: oh I see, thanks it works now
[07:22] <arrenlex> silv3r_m00n: good to hear; enjoy :)
[07:22] <cfhowlett> FelixTheCat, what version?
[07:22] <histo> !md5sum | FelixTheCat
[07:22] <FelixTheCat> cfhowlett, 10.4
[07:23] <FelixTheCat> beta
[07:23] <cfhowlett> felix___, 1. 10.04 will be end of life soon.  2.  Beta????  3.  Old hardware?  lubunut and xubuntu are optimized for legacy hardware
[07:24] <felix___> I'm using 12.10
[07:24] <felix___> its a new install of ubuntu
[07:24] <silv3r_m00n> these so many bloggers who blog on ubuntu and other linuxes, where do they get the latest info from ?
[07:24] <FelixTheCat> cfhowlett, mabe if it downloads this time
[07:24] <cfhowlett> felix___, xubuntu and lubuntu then
[07:25] <FelixTheCat> felix___, now, this is confusing
[07:25] <Guest15660> Any one from India who have used MTS in ubuntu 12.04
[07:25] <felix___> yeah, confusing lol.
[07:25] <usr13> silv3r_m00n: sudo find /usr/lib/ -name libgtk* -type f
[07:25] <FelixTheCat> cfhowlett, thats not me im FelixTheCat  not felix___
[07:25] <cfhowlett> FelixTheCat, right.  sorry
[07:25] <felix___> heh, I guess he's answering your questions
[07:25] <felix___> sorry ;)
[07:26] <FelixTheCat> felix___, yes, he is
[07:26] <silv3r_m00n> Guest15660: I have used tata photon
[07:26] <usr13> silv3r_m00n: sudo find /usr/lib/ -name libgtk-3* -type f
[07:26] <silv3r_m00n> usr13: its done already
[07:26] <usr13> silv3r_m00n: What did it find?
[07:26] <RealKillaz_> hi there how can I forcce a removal of a package
[07:26] <silv3r_m00n> usr13: sudo apt-get install libgtk-3-0:i386   fixed it, finished
[07:26] <cfhowlett> Guest15660, usr13 sent a pdf to set that device up on ubuntu ...
[07:26] <RealKillaz_> right now I keep receiving an error while removing the package freeradius
[07:26] <usr13> silv3r_m00n: Oh, ok
[07:27] <RealKillaz_> dpkg -P freeradius
[07:27] <RealKillaz_> gives me an error
[07:27] <knot> hello there. I've been working at a new PC/LAN gaming center and I have a few questions. I used a drbl server to deploy a 1tb HD image to all 40 stations, but I'm concerned with the upkeep of game updates and game adding in general. is there a way to use some sort of rsync over a network? to push smaller updates instead of a whole re-image. just looking for some alternatives
[07:27] <vnc786> can pdf be converted to any other format like doc,xls etc if the pdf it self is made from excel or doc i tried online as well libre pdfimport it gets converted but the text is not in order..
[07:27] <knot> sorry for wall of text :P
[07:28] <RealKillaz_> I just want to force the removal and purge everything of freeradius
[07:28] <RealKillaz_> jjust make the system forget freeradius is installed
[07:28] <x__> dfcvsfbdg
[07:28] <usr13> vnc786: pdf is an image
[07:28] <x__> fbnj,metysh
[07:28] <Guest15660> @user13 How to get that
[07:29] <cfhowlett> RealKillaz, sudo apt-get purge freeradius && sudo apt-get autoremove
[07:29] <x__> .kjjr

[07:29] <usr13> Guest15660: Get what?
[07:29] <Guest15660> pdf
[07:30] <Guest15660> I am having problem in using MTS
[07:30] <cfhowlett> Guest15660, the mblaster setup for ubuntu pdf
[07:30] <usr13> Guest15660: OpenOffice or Libreoffice will export to pdf
[07:30] <Guest15660> OK
[07:30] <usr13> This?:   http://www.mtsindia.in/MUltra/download/AC2791%20User%20Guide.pdf
[07:31] <RealKillaz_> cfhowlett, I keep getting an error while I try to purge freeradius: start-stop-daemon: warning: failed to kill 18692: No such process
[07:31] <RealKillaz_> [fail]
[07:31] <RealKillaz_> invoke-rc.d: initscript freeradius, action "stop" failed.
[07:31] <cfhowlett> RealKillaz, reboot into text mode and run the commands
[07:32] <RealKillaz_> cfhowlett, not possible it's a running server. I'm already on the cli..
[07:32] <cfhowlett> RealKillaz, oooh, a challenge!
[07:32] <vnc786> usr13: thanks for info what i beleive is pdf cannot be converted in any other format (can be converted condition is that pdf should contain some simple text) am i right...?
[07:32] <cfhowlett> RealKillaz, ps -ax didn't reveal what service is running it?
[07:32] <RealKillaz_> cfhowlett, the server can not go down
[07:33] <usr13> vnc786: Well, it can be converted to another image type.
[07:33] <cfhowlett> RealKillaz, understood, but ps -ax should reveal your working processes.
[07:33] <RealKillaz_> there is no service running freeradius
[07:33] <RealKillaz_> so I dont't undertstand where the init script gets the pid
[07:34] <usr13> RealKillaz_: service --status-all
[07:34] <RealKillaz_> ps aux | grep radius does not reveal anthing
[07:35] <RealKillaz_> usr13, that shows: [ ? ]  freeradius
[07:35] <usr13> RealKillaz_: Maybe a lock file?
[07:35] <vnc786> usr13: but not to any proper text format like doc,xls...and there is no utility available which can convert ...just want to confirm i searched a lot and didnt got too...so asking here finally here  to settle down
[07:36] <RealKillaz_> usr13, hmm ok
[07:36] <usr13> RealKillaz_: service freeradius stop
[07:36] <vnc786> so that i stop doing my R&D on that ...:)
[07:36] <RealKillaz_> usr13, start-stop-daemon: warning: failed to kill 18692: No such process
[07:37] <usr13> vnc786: Not that I know of. (Which is the reason for pdf files in the first place.)
[07:37] <RealKillaz_> usr13, don't understand this
[07:37] <RealKillaz_> the same PID
[07:37] <vnc786> usr13: ok thanks
[07:38] <cfhowlett> RealKillaz, kill -9 that pid
[07:38] <usr13> RealKillaz_: ps aux |grep 18692
[07:38] <usr13> RealKillaz_: or kill -15 18692
[07:39] <RealKillaz_> kill: (18692) - No such process
[07:39] <RealKillaz_> that process does not exist
[07:39] <usr13> RealKillaz_: What version of Ubuntu is it?
[07:40] <ak5_> hi, when I do `sudo visudo` I end up in.... nano
[07:40] <usr13> RealKillaz_: lsb_release -r
[07:41] <RealKillaz_> usr13, ok a quick look in the daemon script revealed the problem
[07:41] <Tm_T> ak5_: yes, it uses $EDITOR
[07:41] <RealKillaz_> rm -r /var/run/freeradius/freeradius.pid
[07:41] <ak5_> Tm_T: echo $EDITOR gives me a new line
[07:41] <usr13> RealKillaz_: Ok, well, there you go.
[07:41] <flintser> RealKillaz_: what are you trying to do exactly, i came here just :)
[07:41] <usr13> RealKillaz_: he's trying to uninstall freeradius
[07:42] <RealKillaz_> thank you guys
[07:42] <usr13> NP
[07:42] <RealKillaz_> flintser, removing bad installation of freeradius
[07:42] <flintser> RealKillaz_: ok, it seems you got it sorted out though?
[07:42] <RealKillaz_> flintser, for now....
[07:42] <RealKillaz_> now I can continue removing the other dependencies
[07:42] <usr13> flintser: Just had to remove the lock file.
[07:44] <iceroot> is this big performance difference normal on LUKS? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1675979/
[07:47] <ak5_> Tm_T: even after doing export editor=vim;sudo visudo I get nano
[07:47] <ak5_> sorry
[07:47] <ak5_> export EDITOR=vim
[07:48] <Jordan_U> ak5_: sudo EDITOR=vim visudo
[07:48] <ak5_> Jordan_U: thanks. How to keep this persistant for sudo?
[07:49] <ak5_> I already `echo 'export EDITOR=vim >> ~/.bashrc'`
[07:49] <Jordan_U> ak5_: Changing the default editor via update-alternatives will probably do it.
[07:49] <ak5_> ok
[07:50] <Jordan_U> ak5_: After that you can also remove that addition to ~/.bashrc (though it doesn't hurt anything to have it).
[07:50] <flintser> iceroot: lol mine is much slower... http://paste.ubuntu.com/1675988/
[07:50] <histo> +1 for vim
[07:51] <flintser> iceroot: not answering your question, just wondering should i raid or smthng because over 250mb is much faster than 84
[07:51] <iceroot> flintser: for my setup you need 4 hdds, i would not suggest to use raid just to get more speed, use a ssd instead
[07:53] <flintser> iceroot: actually i have few 80gb disks, which i could raid0 just for fun :) ssd cost so much...
[07:54] <iceroot> flintser: yeah with raid0 you should get ~200% of the speed
[07:55] <flintser> if i had 4 disks i'd do 0+1 but i only have three.. but well enough offtopic ^^
[07:56] <joeatlas> ubuntu 12.04 on Vmware with entire disk option installation after installing lamp and ubuntu-restricted-extras i get this error "Disconnected from plymouth" and screen freezzzz!
[07:57] <joeatlas> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:58] <joeatlas> sleeping time or wat !
[07:58] <mvt007geek> what is whoise
[07:58] <joeatlas> ubottu  any help
[07:59] <joeatlas> ubuntu 12.04 on Vmware with entire disk option installation after installing lamp and ubuntu-restricted-extras i get this error "Disconnected from plymouth" and screen freezzzz!
[07:59] <joeatlas> can u help
[07:59] <iceroot> !repeat | joeatlas
[07:59] <flintser> !patience | joeatlas
[07:59] <ejv> !enter | joeatlas
[08:00] <flintser> joeatlas: plymouth is the daemon for splash screen according to ubuntu wiki
[08:00] <mvt007geek> what is whoise? can someone help me?i heard people in irc use it to know the location of people
[08:00] <joeatlas> ubottu i search the entiren NET and nothing for this dummmmm module plymouth
[08:00] <mvt007geek> with whoise
[08:00] <histo> mvt007geek: /whois mvt007geek
[08:00] <iceroot> mvt007geek: #freenode   also see /help whois
[08:00] <flintser> joeatlas: debugging and other info https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Plymouth
[08:01] <joeatlas> flinster: can i disabled this plymouth and use normal boot
[08:01] <joeatlas> flinster: if yes plz tell
[08:02] <flintser> joeatlas: flintser* and the info is there.. if you can boot and login from terminal, you can edit grub in order to do text mode boot
[08:02] <flintser> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Plymouth
[08:03] <dr_willis> !text
[08:05] <dr_willis> its very likely that plymouth is not the issue.. its whats supposed to start up after plymouth thats the issue
[08:06] <Tex_Nick> mvt007geek:  might also have a look at this ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Internet_Relay_Chat_commands
[08:11] <flintser> dr_willis: anyway, text mode helps for debugging :) i forgot that you could add switches straight from grub...
[08:11] <AlakullihalLinux> hay all..
[08:11] <AlakullihalLinux> anyone from Indonesia ?
[08:12] <knot> hello there. I've been working at a new PC/LAN gaming center and I have a few questions. I used a drbl server to deploy a 1tb HD image to all 40 stations, but I'm concerned with the upkeep of game updates and game adding in general. is there a way to use some sort of rsync over a network? to push smaller updates instead of a whole re-image. just looking for some alternatives
[08:12] <flintser> !id | AlakullihalLinux
[08:12] <cfhowlett> knot, local mirror maybe???
[08:13] <knot> I would like it to be automated via a scheduler
[08:13] <AlakullihalLinux> I want ask only, are anyone from indonesia
[08:14] <leotr> hello! I need some advice. I want to modify ubuntu server installation CD to do the following: 1) add some packages to it (i want them to be automatically installed during installation) 2) put some files to CD and extract them after installation (run some custom script after everything has been installed). I want to do these steps fully automatically and without Internet Connection. ...
[08:14] <cfhowlett> |!remastersys|leotr,
[08:15] <flintser> knot, i don't know but maybe you could do backup of the 1tb image to all of the 40 stations and keep it synchronized ;F
[08:15] <flintser> ;D*
[08:15] <knot> that's what I've done
[08:15] <knot> but how would I keep it synchronized
[08:16] <ak5_> knot: depending on how you lock down the pcs, you may like the 'reset' of reimaging
[08:16] <ak5_> rsync is not the right tool for that imho
[08:16] <knot> reset of re imaging?
[08:16] <AlakullihalLinux> no body here #ubuntu-id
[08:17] <histo> knot: yeah you could use rsync to transfer config files
[08:17] <histo> knot: instead of transfering the whole disk image if you don't want to.
[08:17] <leotr> I want CD to be run fully automatically. Yesterday i tried RemasterSys but produced ISO file didn't install anything (some error occured) cfhowlett: I'd like to do it in manual way without remastersys.
[08:17] <flintser> knot run somekind of backup software with the drbl and set it to sync images automatically maybe every hour?
[08:18] <knot> I dont need transfer of config files. I would need a transfer of game directories to deploy games easier
[08:18] <leotr> So i have some questions...
[08:18] <histo> knot: yeah you can accomplish that with rsync
[08:18] <cfhowlett> leotr, ask
[08:18] <histo> knot: it only copies the changes from source to destination
[08:18] <knot> that's fine
[08:19] <knot> I would have the game installed on the 'master image' then sync to the others
[08:19] <histo> knot: yeah mount the master image rsync from the game folder to all the other machines
[08:19] <leotr> 1) Packages have dependencies. E.g. i want to install python-pyside package but it has dependencies. How do i figure out what packages do i need to include all of them to ISO file?
[08:19] <histo> knot: are you using diskless remote boot on the machines?
[08:19] <knot> but how would I automate that for weekly?
[08:20] <flintser> leotr: use sudo apt-get -d install to just download packages, it sorts out dependencies too
[08:20] <histo> knot: with cron
[08:20] <knot> yes drbl has a pxe server too
[08:20] <histo> knot: Do the clients have drives or are they booting off the server?
[08:20] <knot> they boot from drives
[08:20] <histo> knot: ahh yeah then an rsync cronjob is the way to go it sounds
[08:20] <knot> windows7
[08:20] <histo> ewww
[08:21] <knot> yes. well. Games man
[08:21] <leotr> flintser: thank you. May i do this command on some ubuntu desktop distro or it should be done on clean server installation?
[08:21] <knot> the drbl server is ubuntu though
[08:22] <knot> so I could have a cronjob to wake on lan each machine and rsync from the master image and then shutdown when completed?
[08:22] <histo> knot: well you could share each client drive... mount them all on the server and just rsync to the mounts via a cron job. You will find that windows filesystem times differ from that of linux though.  But if you are rsyncing from a windows source drive to windows client mount shouldn't be an issue.
[08:22] <histo> knot: yeah
[08:22] <histo> knot: either way it's up to you on how you want to implement it but there are many options.
[08:23] <knot> would I need static ips or just use computer names
[08:23] <flintser> leotr: any machine with internet and apt
[08:23] <histo> knot: I'd use static ips just to keep things sane.
[08:23] <histo> knot: or you can use winbind and use netbios names or whatever.
[08:23] <knot> I'm sort of a linux noob, I'm trying to wrap my head around this
[08:23] <ga_sk8er> no matter what i do, my video card wont run the steam games. i  guess my card isnt supported on ubuntu. is there a site to tell what version of linux is best for my system?
[08:23] <histo> knot: you sound like you understand the concept. Why are you using a drbl server?
[08:24] <leotr> In other words i think that apt-get -d will download packages that are dependencies and missing (not all dependencies) and doing so on ubuntu desktop will not download all required packages. Or maybe i'm wrong and it's possible to specify directory with available packages and apt will analyse what else is requried?
[08:24] <knot> for the initial deployment of the master image
[08:24] <histo> ga_sk8er: what kind of video card do you have?
[08:24] <ga_sk8er> ati x300
[08:24] <histo> knot: Ahh how'dyou setup the drbl server did you follow A howto? I'd like to take a peek.
[08:24] <cfhowlett> !hardware|ga_sk8er,
[08:24] <histo> !ati | ga_sk8er
[08:24] <knot> and for easier restoring if things go wrong? I dont know haha. seemed like a good thing to do
[08:24] <flintser> leotr: downloaded .debs go to http://forums.retrospect.com/index.php?/topic/147734-error-530-backup-client-not-found/
[08:24] <histo> ga_sk8er: do you have propriatary drivers installed?
[08:24] <knot> yes. I will grab it
[08:25] <histo> knot: cool thanks
[08:25] <flintser> leotr: SORRY this is the right one: /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:25] <flintser> :)
[08:25] <ga_sk8er> histo thats my issue. i dont have them installed & cant figure out how to get them installed
[08:25] <Tex_Nick> ga_sk8er:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[08:25] <histo> ga_sk8er: jockey-gtk
[08:25] <histo> ga_sk8er: run that in terminal
[08:26] <ga_sk8er> i just tried steps i had seen online & the terminal told me Error: Distro Version entered incorrectly or not supported, use --listpkg to identify valid distro versions
[08:26] <knot> histo, http://geekyprojects.com/cloning/setup-a-clonezilla-server-on-ubuntu/ old article but it works. there is also an option to deploy clonezilla live as the OS, which was the only option that worked with these machines.
[08:26] <dr_willis> ga_sk8er:  what ubuntu release are you using?
[08:26] <ga_sk8er> im running 12.04
[08:26] <dr_willis> its possible you may have better luck with 12.10
[08:26] <histo> knot: cool ty
[08:27] <knot> are there good resources for setting up a cronjobs script for accomplishing this?
[08:27] <ga_sk8er> histo jockey searched for drivers but found nothing
[08:27] <histo> ga_sk8er: then you may have to follow the directions from ubottu
[08:27] <histo> dr_willis: 12.10 X drivers are now in 12.04.2 remember
[08:28] <ga_sk8er> when i tried some directions i  saw on the ubuntu site, the terminal told me Error: Distro Version entered incorrectly or not supported, use --listpkg to identify valid distro versions
[08:28] <dr_willis> and  we have seen how much breakate thats been causeing. ;)
[08:28] <flintser> leotr: if you have installed the software before using the -d switch, the .deb files are in /var/cache/apt/archives, if you use -d and they aren't installed, it just downloads them to /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:28] <ga_sk8er> when i  tried to open my game earlier it said something about openGL
[08:29] <dr_willis> if you got a spare 16gb usb flash you could try installing 12.10 to it and see if they happen to work. ;)
[08:29] <aeon-ltd> ga_sk8er: don't have 2.0?
[08:29] <leotr> flintser: i'm sorry for making so many clarifications... If i understand correctly /var/cache/apt/archives on ubuntu desktop contains packages which might be downloaded before and may contain packages that are actually not required by my distribution. Is it possible to override this directory, copy debs from server CD and download packages that need to be added to server CD?
[08:29] <ga_sk8er> aeon-ltd 2.0 of what?
[08:29] <aeon-ltd> ga_sk8er: opengl
[08:30] <ga_sk8er> i dont think it has open gl....i just installed my linux earlier today
[08:30] <knot> thanks for the help histo. I have some research ahead of me then :]
[08:31] <ga_sk8er> aeon-ltd is open gl in the software center or do i  install it by terminal command?
[08:32] <aeon-ltd> ga_sk8er: opengl support will come as part of the driver for your gpu
[08:32] <ga_sk8er> my problem is trying to install my driver
[08:32] <histo> knot: yeah read about rsync and cron and it will all make sense
[08:32] <aeon-ltd> ga_sk8er: mobility radeon?
[08:32] <ga_sk8er> ive been trying to install it as ive seen online...step by step....but i  get an error message
[08:32] <knot> I hope so
[08:33] <ga_sk8er> aeon-ltd my pc doesnt call it mobility...i think that's a laptop version
[08:33] <histo> knot: the only thing else to overcome is the mounting etc... but that stuff is all easy with docs
[08:34] <AtuM> hello... I'm having issues with start-stop-daemon and my pacemaker running ocfs2 on drbd volume... running "start-stop-daemon --name ocfs2_controld.cman --stop" gives me "warning: this system is not able to track process names longer than 15 characters, please use --exec instead of --name"
[08:34] <aeon-ltd> ga_sk8er: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1860842#5 it was solved for mobility, but it may work
[08:34] <ga_sk8er> aeon-ltd i'll try it
[08:37] <ga_sk8er> aeon-ltd on the 2nd step when i copy & paste what it says, the terminal tells me E: Unable to locate package ligl1-mesa-dri
[08:37] <leotr> how much does 1 hour of consulting cost?
[08:38] <aeon-ltd> ga_sk8er: it probably meant libgl-mesa-dri
[08:38] <ga_sk8er> the part where it puts OpenGL back on the pc...thats where it messes up on me
[08:38] <aeon-ltd> libgl1-mesa-dri
[08:39] <ga_sk8er> aeon-ltd ok i'll try that command
[08:39] <Fuzzles> what uses more resources ubuntu or kubuntu?
[08:39] <ga_sk8er> aeon-ltd same issue....unable to locate package
[08:40] <aeon-ltd> ga_sk8er: it exists here http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libgl1-mesa-dri
[08:40] <Fuzzles> what uses more resources ubuntu or kubuntu?
[08:41] <aeon-ltd> Fuzzles: they're both pretty heavy, i'd say unity is heavier than kde. though the last time i used kde was 2 years ago
[08:41] <aeon-ltd> Fuzzles: what's the spec of your pc?
[08:41] <dr_willis> id say close to the same
[08:42] <aeon-ltd> ga_sk8er: sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-swx11
[08:42] <Fuzzles> aeon-ltd, my specs are fine 4gb of ram ati radeion hd 3 series graphics i was just curious
[08:43] <dr_willis> seems the web browsers use up  more resources then the desktops these days. ;)
[08:43] <cousteau> I got this weird error message while booting: "Disk unit UUID-(long uuid of a disk unit) isn't ready or wasn't found. Press S for (couldn't read this part)" and then it disappeared and the normal login appeared.  Should I worry?
[08:43] <dr_willis> cousteau:  check your fstab for a invalid entry
[08:44] <oal> I have two keyboard layouts set up (switching between them in the top bar next to the clock). Is there a shortcut to cycle throughg them?
[08:44] <cousteau> can't find that warning in dmesg
[08:44] <dr_willis> it wouldent be in dmesg i imagine.. check your fstab file for a invalid entry.
[08:44] <flintser> Fuzzles: i think kubuntu uses more recources since kde has updatet so much and different kinds of widgets are default
[08:45] <cousteau> dr_willis, seems to be swap
[08:45] <cousteau> swap seems not to be mounted
[08:45] <dr_willis> if the fstab entry is wrong. that would make sence
[08:47] <aeon-ltd> ga_sk8er: did it work?
[08:47] <Tex_Nick> oal:  here's a list of standard keyboard shortcuts ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KeyboardShortcuts ... don't know if what you are after is there though
[08:47] <ga_sk8er> aeon-ltd E: Unable to locate package libgli-mesa-dri
[08:47] <ga_sk8er> i guess that means it found the other 2
[08:47] <aeon-ltd> ga_sk8er: it's libgl1 not i
[08:47] <iceroot> what is the reason why fdisk can only create 2GB primary ext4 partitions?
[08:47] <iceroot> 2TB
[08:48] <ga_sk8er> oh that explains it. my mistake
[08:48] <histo> iceroot: it doesn't understand GPT
[08:48] <histo> iceroot: it uses msdos partitioning
[08:48] <iceroot> histo: what is the correct way to create a 3,5TB partition? (cli)
[08:48] <ga_sk8er> aeon-ltd The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:48] <ga_sk8er>  libgl1-mesa-glx : Conflicts: libgl1
[08:48] <ga_sk8er>  libgl1-mesa-swx11 : Conflicts: libgl1
[08:48] <ga_sk8er> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[08:49] <Fuzzles> flintser, you using kubuntu or ubuntu?
[08:49] <ga_sk8er> so this means those files are already on the system...right?
[08:49] <oal> Tex_Nick: thanks, but I couldn't find it there.
[08:49] <histo> iceroot: use parted  I think cfdisk can do GPT although i'm not sure I believe there is also sfdisk which I think can.
[08:50] <iceroot> histo: thank you alot for the useful information
[08:50] <cousteau> dr_willis, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1676196/ here's my fdisk -l
[08:50] <cousteau> there seems to be something weird at the end of the disk...
[08:50] <aeon-ltd> ga_sk8er: wait remove those 3 packages, try again. check the spelling.
[08:50] <Tex_Nick> oal : sorry man :(
[08:51] <ga_sk8er> sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-swx11
[08:51] <ga_sk8er> theres the command i used to install them
[08:51] <cousteau> I think /dev/sda8 is supposed to be the swap, which I don't remember how big it was, but it wasn't ridiculously big
[08:51] <oal> Tex_Nick: Looks like I might be able to add my custom shortcuts calling setxkbmap. I hope that works
[08:51] <cousteau> the 3 linux partitions are /, /home and /opt
[08:52] <Tex_Nick> oal : great ! ... hope ya get it
[08:52] <aeon-ltd> ga_sk8er: sudo apt-get remove libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-swx11
[08:53] <cousteau> I think I will touch /forcefsck and reboot...
[08:53] <aeon-ltd> ga_sk8er: then run the install again
[08:53] <dr_willis> i dont think you fsck swap partitionbs
[08:54] <ga_sk8er> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:54] <ga_sk8er>  libgl1-mesa-glx : Conflicts: libgl1
[08:54] <ga_sk8er>  libgl1-mesa-swx11 : Conflicts: libgl1
[08:54] <ga_sk8er> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages
[08:54] <ga_sk8er> the remove command removed the steam client
[08:54] <cousteau> dr_willis, doesn't fsck also fix problems in the main partition table?
[08:55] <cousteau> or how should I fix it?
[08:55] <dr_willis> guess you can try it and see.. you may have to mkswap on the swap partition
[08:55] <cousteau> the problem is that the swap partition seems to have fubared
[08:55] <dr_willis> delte it. remake it. mkswap on it..
[08:56] <dr_willis> or just mkswap on it
[08:56] <cousteau> (its entry in the main partition table, this is)
[08:56] <cousteau> the size also doesn't make sense
[08:56] <dr_willis> may be a good idea to make backups befor trying stuff. ;)
[08:57] <cousteau> or I could just forget about swap; I've never used that...
[08:57] <dr_willis> it could be a sign the HD is having deeper issues also....
[08:57] <PsyCl0ne> Hi everyone, I just recently did a fresh install of 12.10 to a 256GB hard drive but now when I try to download anything Transmission reports that there is no storage space available and I really dont know how to see if my partitions are setup correctly
[08:58] <ga_sk8er> aeon-ltd did u  see whre i posted my issue still form terminal?
[08:58] <ga_sk8er> *from
[08:58] <cousteau> dr_willis, how would I check that?  something about "SMART", right?
[08:58] <nibbler__> PsyCl0ne: 1) sudo fdisk -l 2) ssd hds tend to die plentiful and early
[08:59] <gitesh> Hi Ubuntu
[08:59] <PsyCl0ne> nibbler_ Thank you its just a standard drive
[08:59] <nibbler__> PsyCl0ne: df -h gives nice output about diskspace, too
[08:59] <aeon-ltd> ga_sk8er: yes
[08:59] <Ronalds_Mz> PsyClone, somethings wrong with partition of home
[08:59] <Ronalds_Mz> you will probably not fix it without reinstall
[08:59] <ga_sk8er> ok
[08:59] <gitesh> just wanted to say that, Focuse doesn't change properly when I am switching between Apps using Workspace Switcher.  OK?
[09:00] <iceroot> histo: fyi: gdisk is the way to go to handle GPT partitions, cfdisk was not able to do it. everything fine now, so thank you again for the useful hint
[09:00] <PsyCl0ne> Ronalds_Mz thank you Ill just go do that now
[09:00] <PsyCl0ne> seems like all my partitions are messed
[09:00] <PsyCl0ne> I have no heme
[09:00] <ga_sk8er> aeon-ltd maybe ubuntu dont support this particular card. im running an old machine
[09:00] <PsyCl0ne> home8
[09:00] <PsyCl0ne> Thank you guys
[09:01] <cousteau> do I need to unmount the drive before running smartctl on it?
[09:02] <aeon-ltd> ga_sk8er: skip installing those pkgs, go on ahead to install xserver-xorg-video-radeon ; maybe it'll work anyway
[09:02] <ga_sk8er> i sure hope so
[09:02] <aeon-ltd> ga_sk8er: it's still worth trying
[09:03] <gitesh> bye!
[09:05] <histo> iceroot: np
[09:06] <itteration> mozilla crashed, chatzilla closed.   wanted to say thankyou again to thesheep
[09:07] <ga_sk8er> aeon-ltd it tells me xorg isnt installed. i went through software center to get it but it still gives the error
[09:07] <sveinse> Is there a way to control the logic and/or priority of the DNS resolver in precise/NM? I'm connected to company LAN by eth0 and a public network on wlan, and I'm often incapable of resolving lan dns entries as it seems to use the public dns resouces and not the lan.
[09:07] <ga_sk8er> Package `xorg-xserver' is not installed and no info is available.
[09:07] <ga_sk8er> Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
[09:07] <ga_sk8er> and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
[09:07] <ga_sk8er> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xorg-xserver is not installed
[09:09] <aeon-ltd> ga_sk8er: you mean xserver-xorg right? not xorg-xserver?
[09:10] <ga_sk8er> i copied & pasted...thats what the terminal calls it
[09:10] <aeon-ltd> ga_sk8er: from the forum or from irc?
[09:11] <ga_sk8er> thats what my terminal calls it. it says that is whats missing. i copied out of terminal & pasted in here
[09:12] <aeon-ltd> ga_sk8er: i'm gonna give up, i'm sorry. maybe there are easier to find drivers that contain opengl2 support
[09:12] <ga_sk8er> aeon-ltd http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=xserver-xorg
[09:13] <ga_sk8er> im just wondering if maybe another version of linux will find the video card...maybe fedora or some other distro
[09:13] <ga_sk8er> wish i  could find out which one will work with my hardware before trying all of them
[09:13] <jarco> If ubuntu doesn't see it few will ...
[09:14] <Tex_Nick> 14 DVD's burned in win xp using identical parameters ... verified after burn ... only one will read in quantal ... any ideas as to why ?
[09:14] <dr_willis> unless ters some weird bugs going on
[09:14] <jarco> I usually come to ubuntu if all the others fail me.... :)
[09:15] <ga_sk8er> maybe an older version of ubuntu will run the video card
[09:15] <ga_sk8er> i thikn i have a version 11 disk somewhere to install from
[09:15] <dr_willis> Tex_Nick:  tried on differnt machines?
[09:16] <dr_willis> ga_sk8er:  feeling brave try a 13.x ;)
[09:16] <ry|an> I believe you might be interested in gentoo or l4n
[09:16] <opus87> #ammd
[09:17] <ga_sk8er> dr_willis if version 12 dont want to find my older hardware i  was thinknig of going the other way....take an older OS that would more than likely find it....the newer one probably wont find it either
[09:17] <dr_willis> ga_sk8er:  hard to tell.. how old is that card?
[09:17] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis : not yet ... my new year resolution was to see if i could go a whole year without booting into windoze ... guess i'm gonn already have to break that resolution ;)
[09:18] <Komzpa> hello. a question about ubuntu for phones: we're makeing offline maps application that could be ported to ubuntu for phones, who should we contact about it being preinstalled on mobile phones?
[09:18] <ga_sk8er> idk but it came with this pc & the pc has a floppy drive but runs a sata hd
[09:18] <dr_willis> Tex_Nick:  ive had optical drives be weird and make disks that could opnlyu be read on that same drive..
[09:18] <cfhowlett> !phone|Komzpa,
[09:18] <ga_sk8er> so im gonna say around 2003 or 2004....about the time sata was just getting started
[09:18] <dr_willis> ga_sk8er:  so that thing has a 10 yr old ati card?
[09:19] <ga_sk8er> right around there
[09:19] <ry|an> ga_sk8er try this http://www.gnaa.eu/wiki/pr/2012-07-21-gnaa-linux
[09:19] <ry|an> if it doesn't detect your GPU you are out of luck
[09:19] <cousteau> I ran a short SMART test, and now I have no idea what it means
[09:19] <dr_willis> The fglrx drivers normally dont support any cards after some set age.
[09:19] <dr_willis> ati likes to remove support for older cards as fast as they can
[09:19] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis : ah ok ... these DVD's were burned on the same drive, just booted into win xp
[09:20] <ga_sk8er> i looked it up & it said ubuntu supports the card. online, they might of meant the older versions of the OS
[09:20] <superdo> hi,
[09:20] <cfhowlett> superdo, greetings
[09:20] <ga_sk8er> yeah, thats why im thinking of changing distros or going to an older version of Ubuntu
[09:20] <superdo> if I have a win7/ubuntu system and I reinstall win (to Win8) should i count with any troubles?
[09:20] <thufir_> is javamail (oracle) available through apt?
[09:21] <Adam-85> help for Vbox Kernel driver not installed (rc=-1908)
[09:21] <dr_willis> Tex_Nick:  ive found dvd to be not the most reliable media for backups. I had a lot of backup disks that couldent read the last file on them.. I tend to use usb hds now a days
[09:21] <ga_sk8er> superdo whateveru  do in windows shouldnt affect the linux side of the drive
[09:21] <cousteau> thufir_, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=javamail
[09:21] <superdo> ga_sk8er, good news :)
[09:21] <cousteau> there are some things called javamail there, not sure if they're what you're looking for
[09:21] <dr_willis> ga_sk8er:  im  thinking you are going to have to go to a REALLY REALLY old version. ;)
[09:22] <cousteau> it seems they are implementations of that javamail thing
[09:22] <dr_willis> ga_sk8er:  you are trying to run steam and games on a 10 yr old machine?
[09:22] <ga_sk8er> dr_willis do u know any other distro besides ubuntu that might possibly work with the video card?
[09:22] <thufir_> cousteau: I was looking at that earlier, it doesn't seem to have java mail JAR itself, though.
[09:22] <superdo> ga_sk8er, they are on different partitions, that helps?
[09:22] <aeon-ltd> superdo: you want to install win8 to the win7 partition?
[09:22] <superdo> aeon-ltd, yes.
[09:22] <aeon-ltd> superdo: most likely you'll kill the bootloader
[09:23] <dr_willis> ga_sk8er:  they will all use the same X drivers I imagine. because i bet the fglrx drivers dropped that card several years back.
[09:23] <superdo> hm
[09:23] <ga_sk8er> dr_willis yes, they run fine on this same machine under windows & when i googled i saw that ubuntu supports my video card
[09:23] <dr_willis> ga_sk8er:   ubuntu supports it with the open sourced drivers..  i imagine.
[09:23] <ga_sk8er> superdo whateveru  do under linux dont affect windows & whatever u  do under windows dont affect linux
[09:24] <ga_sk8er> ive had problems trying to get the driver for the last few days now
[09:24] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis : yeah i understand ... hey thanks for the feedback sir :)
[09:24] <superdo> right. so two different answer, im confused oO
[09:25] <ga_sk8er> superdo u can remove ur windows partition & add it right back ( a reinstall) & it wont hurt ur linux part of the drive
[09:25] <aeon-ltd> superdo: if you're using grub, windows will overwrite that
[09:25] <superdo> yes im using grub
[09:25] <aeon-ltd> superdo: which is why iti s reccommended to install linux second
[09:25] <aeon-ltd> the win bootloader can't boot linux
[09:26] <superdo> yes but I dont want to touch linux at the moment..
[09:26] <superdo> but i feel i have to do it
[09:26] <PeTaz> win bootloader can boot linux partition
[09:26] <ga_sk8er> aeon-ltd superdo wants to reinstall his windows so he wont be going into linux until his windows gets reinstalled right back on the same drive
[09:27] <superdo> ga_sk8er, thats true
[09:27] <aeon-ltd> ok
[09:27] <ga_sk8er> when hes done, the linux boot loader should still see a windows partition exists
[09:27] <ga_sk8er> just dont format the drive, only remove ur partition
[09:27] <superdo> ga_sk8er, and what is with Win8? I heard its aggressive
[09:27] <ga_sk8er> & add a new one back on
[09:27] <aeon-ltd> the boot loader won't be there after windows is installed
[09:27] <Halite_CryingIRL> -cries-
[09:28] <ga_sk8er> superdo idk.....ive never ran win 8  yet
[09:28] <superdo> ok
[09:28] <superdo> I installed on a laptop, and more faster than Win7, the install and after the install, during usage
[09:29] <superdo> it doesnt mean i like win :)
[09:29] <PeTaz> win7 is losing suport
[09:29] <ga_sk8er> nobody does...its why im trying to get a stable version of linux for my pc
[09:29] <superdo> thanks for the tips!!
[09:29] <ga_sk8er> in april of this year there wont be anymore win updates for xp
[09:29] <dr_willis> ga_sk8er:  for a 10 yr old pc... well.. thats going to be problematic
[09:29] <Halite_CryingIRL> edwardk
[09:30] <superdo> ga_sk8er, dont say.. i have unsolved problen on 12.10 my LAN vs. Wifi arghh..
[09:30] <PeTaz> win8 runs great on 10 years old machine
[09:31] <ga_sk8er> dr_willis im running fine except for my video driver. on windows i ran a think to see & my pc is able to run win7 but im not gonna buy an OS for that price when linux is free
[09:31] <kaho> just test
[09:31]  * dr_willis would like to see benchmarks of that.
[09:31] <ga_sk8er> *thing
[09:31] <thufir_> I'm running xfce.  When I click on a .zip file, there's no option to "extract here".  How do I get that functionality?  I don't want open the archive manager.
[09:31] <dr_willis> Theres several legacy type disrtos out for older hardware
[09:31] <PeTaz> like xubuntu
[09:32] <dr_willis> no.. i mean actual Legacy designed disrtos..  Not just light mondern disrtos.
[09:32] <ga_sk8er> dr_willis i might even reinstall through my mom's laptop into my hd by my usb reader
[09:32] <dr_willis> Puppylinux  has a few. disrtowatch i recall lists others
[09:32] <kaho>  /join #ubuntu-cn
[09:32] <PeTaz> damsn samal
[09:32] <PeTaz> damn small
[09:33] <histo> PeTaz: xubuntu or lubuntu will run on 10 year old hardware
[09:33] <ga_sk8er> moms laptop has win7 so it should run pretty good...better than my little dinosaur lol
[09:33] <histo> ga_sk8er: It doesn't matter what the the hardware is currently running
[09:34] <histo> ga_sk8er: basically it's like this ubuntu could run on some really old hardware; however, now we have unity which requires a 3D video card. If you don't have that it will run horribly slow. If you switch DEs it would be fine.
[09:34] <PeTaz> 4mlinux is the best distro
[09:34] <l057c0d3r> heh my brother has an older computer...
[09:34] <histo> !requirements | ga_sk8er
[09:34] <ga_sk8er> histo my issue is my i cant get my video card driver cause i  think its kinda old so the hardware does matter some
[09:35] <histo> ga_sk8er: That's not the problem older hardware is usually better supported in linux
[09:35] <l057c0d3r> i still say it has something to do with his video card driver...  because youtube and vlc ext.. basicly all video lags if full screen
[09:35] <histo> ga_sk8er: did you look at the directions from ubottu?
[09:35] <histo> !ati | ga_sk8er
[09:36] <dr_willis> its possible a 10 yr old ATI card has never had decent linux support...
[09:37] <cfhowlett> dr_willis, I'd say it's probable ...
[09:37] <ga_sk8er> the ati website lists a driver there for linux but it dont tell what distro of linux it is for
[09:37] <dr_willis> and how old does it say that driver is?
[09:37] <cfhowlett> ga_sk8er, then it's agnostic and might just work
[09:38] <dr_willis> id bet they droped support for it at least 5 yrs ago
[09:38] <lestus> why would you want to have something from 10 years ago?
[09:39] <ga_sk8er> cfhowlett i hope so
[09:39] <dr_willis> i bet i got newer hardware in my garrage ready for the trash. ;)
[09:39] <lestus> i mean a starter amd card is like 25 bucks
[09:39] <cfhowlett> lestus, not everyone has that luxury.  for many, if it works, why bother with new/shiny stuff.
[09:40] <PeTaz> you could use shipit to get new ubuntu with unity + discret gfx card
[09:41] <PeTaz> you could use shipit to get new ubuntu cd with unity + discret gfx card
[09:41] <cfhowlett> PeTaz, shipit?  not anymore ...
[09:41] <cfhowlett> !shipit
[09:41]  * dr_willis thought that sounded strange
[09:42] <lestus> cfhowlett,  new sure, shiny at that price, doubt it, either way, 25 bucks is not really a luxury, im speaking as someone who comes from poor city, my dad works two jobs sometimes doing 16 hour shifts just to pay bills, yet we have better hardware than that 25 buck card
[09:42] <cfhowlett> lestus, perspective.  I'm in Beijing.  $25 is a weeks salary for a whole LOT of folk.
[09:42] <lestus> yea thats what im saying
[09:43] <lestus> and guess waht
[09:43] <dr_willis> go dumpster diveing. ;)
[09:43]  * Tex_Nick says, send me that old hardware ... NO CRT's though :-)
[09:43] <lestus> $800 card is a week salary for folk in some countries also
[09:43] <lestus> but they get it
[09:43] <lestus> after saving up
[09:44] <ga_sk8er> if i was rich enough i wouldnt be on a donosaur pc installing a free OS.....apparently, im broke
[09:44] <lestus> so if 25$ is difficult fair enough, but surely its not impossible if you are stuck with 10 year old hardware
[09:44] <lestus>  i mean surely at SOME stage in those ten years $25 could have been afforded? no?
[09:45] <l057c0d3r> ga_sk8er, nothing wrong with free os...
[09:45] <lestus> ga_sk8er, valid point
[09:46] <superdo> do I need anything more than set info in network/interfaces file to get a static ip address? because I get diff. IP after every boot
[09:46] <superdo> It was enough on 11.10
[09:47] <histo> superdo: is this a GUI system?
[09:47] <l057c0d3r> im still trying to figure out what is sending key signals in the background on my setup..
[09:48] <l057c0d3r> tried to set keys in zsnes.. and when i press the button joy04 is sent within seconds...
[09:48] <cousteau> interesting...  googling for "ladrones" (spanish for "thieves") leads to the homepage of the SGAE again
[09:48] <ga_sk8er> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Precise_Installation_Guide#Installing_Proprietary_Drivers_a.k.a._Catalyst.2Ffglrx
[09:48] <l057c0d3r> and if i push the set all button it just sets that to all of them...
[09:48] <ga_sk8er> that link there tells me to use an older version...even lists my card as example...x300
[09:48] <dr_willis> l057c0d3r:  weird.
[09:48] <l057c0d3r> which didn't happen when i was running lubuntu..  and ubuntu for that mater
[09:48] <superdo> histo: yes
[09:48] <ga_sk8er> guess i'll install an older version sometime tomorrow
[09:48] <l057c0d3r> but since i started with a minimal.. and built up... it does...
[09:49] <dr_willis> l057c0d3r:  tested with a live cd to see if it happend os n other disrtos?
[09:49] <l057c0d3r> dr_willis, it only happens on this customized mini install..
[09:49] <l057c0d3r> tried different live cd's already
[09:49] <superdo> histo: tried adding data for static address, but the Save button was greyd out
[09:49] <dr_willis> l057c0d3r:  check what modules are loaded.. there may be some odd joydev modume
[09:50] <l057c0d3r> i'm thinking about just droping the minimal install.. and going back to ubuntu/unity..  then just adding a different desktop environment...
[09:51] <dr_willis> i never bother with minimal. ;) dont see the point
[09:51] <ga_sk8er> i have an ubuntu 9 disc i'll use tomorrow...that should be old enough
[09:51] <l057c0d3r> since i've been using gnome3  since my gnome-shell/cairo-dock setup acts up...
[09:51] <l057c0d3r> and has to be restarted every few hours...
[09:51] <ga_sk8er> if that dont work, then i  have fedora 12
[09:51] <histo> superdo: you need to use sudo to edit that file.
[09:52] <l057c0d3r> well dr_willis.. i was trying to save hdd space... and only install the things i wanted....  trying to keep track of dependencies and what came in with what ext..
[09:52] <l057c0d3r> which all kind of seems pointless now
[09:52] <histo> superdo: also if you are using network manager you may just want to configure your static ip in there.
[09:52] <superdo> histo, yes i talked about netw. manager
[09:52] <l057c0d3r> ga_sk8er, what are you trying to accomplish again..
[09:53] <superdo> histo, there was the save button grayed out
[09:53] <l057c0d3r> because i have an old old old computer.. that runs amazing with lubuntu
[09:53] <ga_sk8er> i want to get my video card working right so i can play my steam games under linux
[09:53] <histo> ga_sk8er: NO don't use ubuntu 9
[09:53] <l057c0d3r> what kind of video card was it
[09:53] <dr_willis> installing steam on ubuntu 9 -- will be a challange i bet.,
[09:53] <histo> ga_sk8er: Use a current version. if it doesn't ahve a 3d video card use xubuntu derivative. Or don't run unity
[09:54] <ga_sk8er> ok where would i get the xubuntu?
[09:54] <l057c0d3r> histo, i was thinking he should just run lubuntu..  its rather light
[09:54] <histo> ga_sk8er: May I please suggest using xubuntu  That still won't solve your video card issue as it's just a desktop environment. All the other software kernel etc.. is still the same.
[09:54] <l057c0d3r> and would help him out when it comes to gaining every bit of power that he is going to need for his games if he gets them working
[09:54] <histo> !ati | ga_sk8er
[09:55] <histo> l057c0d3r: People ahve this really messed up sense on what hardware is required to run ubuntu.  It's due to unity requiring a 3d video card
[09:56] <l057c0d3r> right...
[09:56] <ga_sk8er> ubottu http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Precise_Installation_Guide#Installing_Proprietary_Drivers_a.k.a._Catalyst.2Ffglrx
[09:57] <histo> if ga_sk8er installs video drivers his system will be fine
[09:57] <orangemax> hi guys
[09:57] <histo> ga_sk8er: Have you read the page from ubottu about video drivers?
[09:57] <l057c0d3r> i think im starting to like gnome3
[09:57] <aeon-ltd> histo: i suppose that's the problem though, for ubuntu to remain relevant it has to a true alternative to win8 osx. which means utilizing the latest hardware
[09:57] <solfern> l057c0d3r, strong words xD
[09:57] <aeon-ltd> *be a
[09:58] <[RussiaMale36]> hi all
[09:58] <jarco> I did like it... Untill I actually installed on my work desktop. Got rid of it in three weeks :)
[09:58] <orangemax> oh yeah unity is a total fail
[09:58] <histo> aeon-ltd: right but they should still have a fallback mode for hardware that doesn't ahve 3d support in nix. or low end non gaming video cards.
[09:58] <l057c0d3r> i've found that shell extensions are a must though
[09:58] <jarco> orangemax, Why?
[09:58] <histo> aeon-ltd: like unity-2d
[09:58] <l057c0d3r> because the default setup rather blows
[09:58] <Halite> cry
[09:58] <ga_sk8er> histo yeas ive read his page  but the link i sent him claims that the older cards wont work & even lists mine as 1 of the examples that dont work
[09:59] <dr_willis> l057c0d3r:  i find i get so many extensions.. it gets confuseing. :) then some dont want to get removed.. heh.
[09:59] <aeon-ltd> histo: they probably assumed with so many forks of ubuntu they wouldn't need to
[09:59] <histo> ga_sk8er: Which link?
[09:59] <orangemax> coz its unusable
[09:59] <orangemax> preffer kubuntu
[09:59] <ga_sk8er> histo http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Precise_Installation_Guide#Installing_Proprietary_Drivers_a.k.a._Catalyst.2Ffglrx
[10:00] <supaplex> hello, I have a problem with dualbooting windows7+ubuntu and dont know how to fix this
[10:00] <ga_sk8er> when u click to go to section 3, theres a warning at top about cards no longer supported
[10:00] <supaplex> can someone help me?
[10:00] <orangemax> supaplex, GRUB problems?
[10:00] <shoot> I am trying to forward a connection to my vm from the host. For example, i have RDP/3389(<IP_ADDRESS>) on windows vm. My host machine is Ubuntu(<IP_ADDRESS>). So if i connect to my local machine using rdesktop <IP_ADDRESS> then i want the connection to redirect to windows vm rdp
[10:00] <jarco> orangemax, Why is it unusable? It works great at my home setup.
[10:00] <histo> ga_sk8er: That sux that ati did that. If you use an older version like 8.04 you will not be able to install steam I can garantee that.
[10:00] <l057c0d3r> i will say..  removing the task bar....  not a fan....  still kind of wonder what gnome team was up to when they made all the changes.
[10:00] <supaplex> orangemax: think so
[10:00] <shoot> i was following this guide http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-redirecting-network-traffic-to-a-new-ip-using-iptables/
[10:01] <ga_sk8er> histo but on an older version i  should be able to run the windows version under wine, right?
[10:01] <histo> ga_sk8er: if that was your whole goal... I've been in and out so I missed most of the conversation.
[10:01] <aeon-ltd> ga_sk8er: you're intel integrated probably has a better chance :)
[10:01] <histo> ga_sk8er: Can that card even run steam games natively in windows?
[10:01] <ga_sk8er> aeon-ltd integrated what? for some reason this mobo doesnt have a built-in video card
[10:01] <orangemax> supaplex - what exactly happens when you turn on pc? Does grub boot normally?
[10:01] <ga_sk8er> histo yeah i  play them all the time in windows
[10:02] <aeon-ltd> ga_sk8er: wow, dude. what oem?
[10:02] <dr_willis> ga_sk8er:  what games exactly?
[10:02] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis : have you chatted with ActionParsnip lately ... haven't seen him here in a while
[10:02] <ga_sk8er> i do team fortress 2 but i did have half-life & team fortress classic on my hd before...removed them for disc space cause i  dont play them that often
[10:03] <ga_sk8er> aeon-ltd windows xp
[10:03] <histo> ga_sk8er: On this hardware?
[10:03] <aeon-ltd> ga_sk8er: oem not os
[10:03] <ga_sk8er> histo yes
[10:03] <dr_willis> Tex_Nick:  nope. not seen him lately. I was going to show him a URL  about a servivce/trick to put all the browsers caches in the tmpfs that he loves so much. ;)
[10:03] <l057c0d3r> like dell.. hp..
[10:03] <supaplex> orangemax: yes I get a dualboot screen and I can pick ubuntu and everything runs nice, but when I pick windows and restart from windows it wont boot
[10:03] <histo> ga_sk8er: You could install steam in wine rigth now in 12.04 or whatever you are running.
[10:03] <ga_sk8er> aeon-ltd sorry ...dell
[10:04] <aeon-ltd> ga_sk8er: dimension 5xxx?
[10:04] <ga_sk8er> histo but wont i get same problem when trying to run the game if the video card wont install on here?
[10:04] <histo> ga_sk8er: What happens when you try and install the linux version of steam?
[10:04] <dr_willis> so next time someone sees Actionparsnip point him towards --> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/02/keep-your-browser-profiles-in-tmpfs-ram.html
[10:05] <Tm_T> dr_willis: memoserv is your friend
[10:05] <ga_sk8er> aeon-ltd xps 400
[10:05] <l057c0d3r> well im off to watch some netflix.... still stoked over it working on linux now....
[10:05] <l057c0d3r> take care peeps
[10:05] <ga_sk8er> histo it installs steam fine. i even waited for the game to install. when i run it it gives me an error code
[10:05] <dr_willis> l057c0d3r:  sad that amazon prime is now broken on linux. ;(
[10:05] <l057c0d3r> really
[10:05] <histo> ga_sk8er: Have you tried steam support?
[10:06] <l057c0d3r> how they manage to break it..
[10:06] <dr_willis> the flash updates broke/changed some DRM stuff. so it dont work any more.
[10:06] <histo> ga_sk8er: What sort of error code?
[10:06] <dr_willis> I need to try it again - i think i saw a flash update this week
[10:06] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis : strange you say that ... he gave me a pointer on something similar ... hope he is well :)
[10:06] <l057c0d3r> yeah..
[10:06] <dr_willis> Tex_Nick:  that url took his trick and made it  more automated.
[10:06] <roundyz> Hello
[10:06] <l057c0d3r> there was an update..  and then a week later another if i remember correctly
[10:07] <roundyz> How can I debug my networking routing table?
[10:07] <ga_sk8er> histo Could find required OpenGL entry point 'glGetError' Either your video card is unsupported, or your OpenGL driver needs to be updated.
[10:07] <ga_sk8er> im betting its the outdated card option
[10:07] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis : ok man ... could share that ;-)
[10:08] <histo> ga_sk8er: Yeah you may not experience that running through wine. It's worth a try
[10:08] <supaplex> oh orangemax left
[10:08] <histo> ga_sk8er: YOu may want to update your card. May I suggest someone non ATI since they just hosed you like that.
[10:09] <supaplex> can someone else help me with a dualboot problem
[10:09] <histo> !ask | supaplex
[10:09] <histo> supaplex: did you follow the boot repair procedure?
[10:10] <supaplex> I did boot-repair and that fixes the boot procedure
[10:10] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis : lol ... i found the post he gave me ... <ActionParsnip> Tex_nick: I also shove my web cache in tempfs for speed :-). Its good for SSDs too, fewer writes with worthless data
[10:10] <supaplex> However when I run windows again it seems to corrupt the boot
[10:11] <histo> supaplex: Howso?
[10:12] <supaplex> As long as I dont use Windows I will get the dualboot screen, but when I run windows and restart I wont get the dualboot screen again
[10:12] <ga_sk8er> supaplex....u might have to do 3 partitions...on ur windows partitme room & install another ubuntu then that should redo the loader when it installs that. then u can go in & remove the new ubuntu on the smaller partition
[10:13] <dr_willis> supaplex:  sounds like windows may have some av software or somthing thats overrideing the mbr with  a diffderfnt one..
[10:13] <dr_willis> if you are saying grub works untill you boot to windows.. and then grub goes away
[10:13] <ga_sk8er> *on ur windows partition make room
[10:15] <worm> I had just removed my user from every groups except sudo. Will that cause some problem? How can I fix it?
[10:15] <Guest52130> hi
[10:15] <worm> My user is the only user in my computer. using 12.10
[10:15] <Guest52130> hi worm
[10:15] <Guest52130> where r u?
[10:16] <Guest52130> hi chanserv
[10:16] <supaplex> thanks dr_willis and ga_sk8er: I will first look in windows if I can find something to stop overriding grub
[10:16] <dr_willis> why did you remove the groups?
[10:16] <jarco> Lol Guest52130
[10:16] <Guest52130> because of fack..\\
[10:17] <ga_sk8er> i thought that was a mac issue...not linux
[10:17] <Guest52130> why r u laughing me?
[10:17] <DJones> Guest52130: This isn't a general chat channel, if you have an Ubuntu support question feel free to ask it
[10:17] <XtremeWiz> Guest52130: ChanServ is a bot. :)
[10:17] <jarco> Because you just greeted a computer :)
[10:18] <worm> dr_willis: by mistake... I tried to add my user into group video, then I typed "usermod worm -G video"... Then I asked my friend and get back to group sudo. However none of us can remember a regular user should be in which groups...
[10:19] <dr_willis> groups -> username adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare ftp
[10:19] <ga_sk8er> i just left room & reeentered so i bet i  lost interent for a min...hate my ISP
[10:19] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis : Profile Sync Daemon ... ohhh man that looks cool ... gotta give it a try ... thanks :)
[10:19] <worm> that's all? thanks to dr_willis. I will carefully read the user manual this time...
[10:25] <worm> Now I have a problem on wireless Hotspot. my laptop is connected to internet via ethernet, and I want it to host a hotspot to share the internet connection to my iPod touch. However although my iPod found and connected to my laptop, it can't get an available ip address. I tried to set the ip address manually, but the computer still can't ping it (destination not reachable).  What can I do?
[10:26]  * Tex_Nick wonders why he keeps tweaking Quantal ... it's running so smooth that he should just leave it alone
[10:27] <maeniel> so true
[10:28] <ga_sk8er> histro r u  the one i was talking to about going through wine earlier?
[10:30] <ga_sk8er> i got wine installed through software center then i  installed the windows version of steam but when i enter my login info & click to login, it kinda hangs
[10:32] <k1l_> ga_sk8er: for wine support with the windows programs and the different wine versions see the wine appdb and the wine support
[10:32] <k1l_> !wine | ga_sk8er
[10:32] <dr_willis> the linux steam client - only has  the linux native games..  wine/steam ive found cant play all games. and only some will work.
[10:32] <sharkk> join #gnuplot
[10:32] <sharkk> ups
[10:33] <dr_willis> be GREAT if the linux steam client could use wine for some games
[10:34] <Tex_Nick> ga_sk8er:  my personal experience with wijne is that it sometimes only provides marginal functionallity ... and steam is so new to linux that you might encounter multiple problems
[10:38] <ga_sk8er> im encountering problems now...dont hurt to try
[10:39] <supaplex> Is there anyway I can stop windows to stop overwritting my grub boot loader?
[10:39] <dr_willis> figre out what in windows id doing it.. and disable it..
[10:39] <dr_willis> could be AV software. could actually be a MBR virus in windows for all wee know.
[10:40] <dr_willis> I recall some bios's have a MBR protection feature. but that dosent seem to be the case for you
[10:40] <Tex_Nick> ga_sk8er:  yeah , i wasn't trying to be critical ... it's people like you that will make it better by using and sharing your experience ;-)
[10:40] <ga_sk8er> i cna help the linux world & the steam worl ...both at same time :)
[10:40] <codyc1515> Hi guys, I am having an issue with Ubuntu Server 12.10 (quantal). I am able to SSH into the server from the WAN but I am not able to connect to any external addresses from the Ubuntu server without them timing out.
[10:41] <AppleJuice> supaplex, As a alternative to dr_jesus solution, you could disable writing to the boot loader if your bios supports it.
[10:42] <codyc1515> Never mind, I fixed it...
[10:43] <ga_sk8er> im trying to find where wine puts my drive c ...i cant find the files
[10:44] <Tex_Nick> ga_sk8er:  i think it's in your home dir ... you need to show hiddeen files though ?
[10:44] <ga_sk8er> oh ok
[10:44] <Tex_Nick> hidden
[10:44] <DJones> ga_sk8er: Its a while since I've used anything with wine, but I think its in ~/home/.windows (or something similarly hidden)
[10:45] <ljbomir> hi all
[10:45] <ga_sk8er> idk what i did but when i  was in the folder i  right clicked & it suddenly closed out & i cant access my ubuntu desktop in top corner
[10:46] <ga_sk8er> my icons on desktop are suddenly gone too
[10:46] <dr_willis> You broke the internet. ;)
[10:47] <superdo> i never chose "install alongside Windows" option, what it does?
[10:47] <AtuM> I guess this is still true: "kernel has a maximum lenght for process names that appears to be 15" this means that "start-stop-daemon" fails when tring to stop a deamon called "ocfs2_clusterd.cman" - but that's what appears to run when one calls "service o2cb stop" - what can I do to fix this?
[10:47] <dr_willis> superdo:  thats a wubi install.. avoid wubi.
[10:47] <ga_sk8er> brb i guess i log off & back onto ubunut
[10:47] <superdo> ah yes, thx
[10:49] <StrassenJunge> Hello?
[10:49] <dr_willis> Jello
[10:49] <dat789> hi Dr
[10:50] <zelo> i want to find some files with log extensions and echo empty value to overwrite them.  Can someone help me with that?
[10:50] <StrassenJunge> Hey, I was wondering if you could help me, I am trying to installl Ubuntu via USB and im using Universal USB Installer.
[10:50] <XtremeWiz> StrassenJunge: What error do you get?
[10:50] <abhinavmehta> is ubuntu is based on BSD-unix??
[10:51] <StrassenJunge> Everytime I use it I get these error messages ""
[10:51] <StrassenJunge> Well
[10:51] <dr_willis> abhinavmehta:  bsd is not linux.
[10:51] <DJones> abhinavmehta: No, its based on Debian
[10:51] <StrassenJunge> I cant copy and paste but
[10:51] <StrassenJunge> There is these 10 files that it says are "broken"
[10:51] <StrassenJunge> Holy Schmolly!
[10:51] <abhinavmehta> dr_jesus, DJones ohh..k thnaks
[10:51] <StrassenJunge> Now there is 170 of them
[10:52] <leotr> hello! i need someone who has experience in creation of custom installation CDs (add packages that i want, install them during installation, add some additional directory to disk and perform postinstallation script from CD). I want CD to be self-contained (so i don't need internet connection for installation). I want to understand how installer works. I don't want to use some gui tookits for it.
[10:52] <leotr> Has anybody such experience and maybe we could talk about it in private conversation. How much would that cost?
[10:53] <StrassenJunge> An example would be
[10:53] <dr_willis> !remaster
[10:53] <Myrtti> !pm
[10:53] <StrassenJunge> 175 Data error in 'preseed\cli.seed'. is broken
[10:54] <Myrtti> leotr: we are all volunteers here
[10:54] <StrassenJunge> Anybody have any idea what these errors could mean? I cant help but think that this would interfere when i try to install if all these files are "broken"
[10:55] <dr_willis> whats saying they are broken exactly?
[10:56] <Sebzzz> fail
[10:56] <StrassenJunge> There is about 178 of these such messages and they are about all the files that it is trying to put onto my usb
[10:56] <dr_willis> StrassenJunge:  could be the iso image file is bad. you did check its md5sum?
[10:57] <dr_willis> the pendrivelinux site has tools that can put the iso on the flash and boot that via grub2 also. or you can image the iso to usb other ways.
[10:57] <StrassenJunge> Erm. I am quite a newbie, but I am also eager to learn, how do I check the md5sum?
[10:57] <dr_willis> !md5sum
[10:57] <dr_willis> I Think some of the tools at the pendrivelinux site can download and check the sums also.. ive not used them in some time
[10:58] <StrassenJunge> Alright well I'll do this and report back. Thanks for the help
[10:58] <leotr> Myrtti: okay, but if one needs specific help, why not being paid for that? I need some detailed explanation for some parts of InstallCDCustomization, but it's more that 2-3 questions.
[10:58] <ga_sk8er> when the pc rebooted it gave me a low video warning & wont get back to the desktop....i'll just go to bed & try again tomorrow
[10:59] <Tex_Nick> StrassenJunge:  this link has some info regardint that message ... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2025014
[11:03] <sveinse> Is there a way to control the logic and/or priority of the DNS resolver in precise and NM? I'm connected to company LAN by eth0 and a public network on wlan, and I'm often incapable of resolving lan dns entries as it seems to use the public dns resouces and not the lan.
[11:05] <dayWalker51288> help
[11:05] <johnnydepp39> So, I tried to install Ubuntu on my PC this morning, and this is what popped up: http://i.imgur.com/LNeEEkR.jpg -- any ideas?
[11:07] <StrassenJunge> Well it says the Checksums are different. Does this mean my iso isnt good?
[11:07] <dayWalker51288> maybe
[11:08] <Tex_Nick> StrassenJunge:  yep ... if checksums don't match ... means there is file corruption
[11:09] <StrassenJunge> So I just redownload it and try again?
[11:09] <XtremeWiz> StrassenJunge: yep
[11:09] <dr_willis> or use the torrents
[11:11] <Tex_Nick> StrassenJunge:  see what dr_willis posted ... torrents might be faster
[11:11] <dr_willis> a torrent should also verify the data
[11:12] <dr_willis> you could even point the torrent to the .iso file and it might fix it. ;)
[11:12] <StrassenJunge> alrighty
[11:12] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis : that's an interesting concept ;)
[11:13] <mvt007geek> is anyone familiar with iozone?it's a testing tool
[11:14] <mvt007geek> i want to test a systemfile that i have mounted to /mnt
[11:16] <megha> does ubuntu supports selinux ?
[11:16] <dr_willis> it uses apparmour i belive
[11:16] <DJones> !selinux | megha
[11:17] <mvt007geek> is anyone familiar with iozone?it's a testing tool
[11:17] <megha> :)
[11:17] <StrassenJunge> Well the torrents are excruciatingly slow
[11:18] <dr_willis> if you point it to the iso you allready have downloaded.. it should be able to verify/check and only download thebad parts
[11:19] <StrassenJunge> Really? Will do then.
[11:19] <StrassenJunge> Thats quite interesting
[11:19] <dr_willis> id still check the md5 after its done
[11:19] <mvt007geek> is anyone familiar with iozone?it's a testing tool.i want to do a est on a filesystem which i have been mounted but should i go to the mount address and do the test? or i should go somewhere els
[11:20] <StrassenJunge> Indeed.
[11:21] <shadowshell> hi all, this question isn't ubuntu specific but is related.
[11:21] <Tex_Nick> StrassenJunge:  an after-thought here ... you did use the same checksum hash on your file that the server you downloaded from used ? ie: md5 or sha ... etc ?
[11:21] <StrassenJunge> Well it says it will still take 30 minutes
[11:21] <megha> is there anything like sandbox present on ubuntu ?
[11:22] <StrassenJunge> Yes I did
[11:22] <shadowshell> I recently watched a screencast that was recorded directly to a service that ended in a .io domain. Anyone know the name of this service? Its like shelr.tv, but not it.
[11:22] <multimedia> Hello
[11:22] <shadowshell> megha: you mean like chroot?
[11:22] <megha> shadowshell: ya kind off..
[11:23] <shadowshell> megha: there is something that is part of the deb package building toolchain
[11:23] <shadowshell> megha: can't recall name
[11:24] <shadowshell> megha: its used to build packages in a clean sandbox env without hurting the installed system
[11:24] <shadowshell> The screencast service I mentioned, I meant that it recored a terminal session
[11:25] <shadowshell> so it was like a terminal session screencast like shelr.tv, but another service. anyone heard of this? ends in .io domain?
[11:25] <megha> shadowshell: ok :) let me know the name if it comes to your mind
[11:27] <ChristopherWere> Hey guys, have a bit of a work crisis here. I've just turned on my computer and I can't boot into X because it says it doesn't regognise either of the two moniters I have
[11:28] <shadowshell> answered my own question, ascii.io
[11:29] <shadowshell> neat stuff
[11:31] <ChristopherWere> Any help would be greatly appreciated
[11:31] <XtremeWiz> ChristopherWere: what's "X"?
[11:31] <gnuyoga_> ChristopherWere:  remove the second monitor cable and start with one monitor
[11:32] <ChristopherWere> okay
[11:33] <dr_willis> X is the foundation of the Linux GUI desktop.
[11:33] <XtremeWiz> dr_willis: ty, TIL
[11:33] <dr_willis> The X.Org project provides an open source implementation of the X Window System. The development work is being done in conjunction with the freedesktop.org community
[11:34] <ChristopherWere> okay, still no success
[11:34] <dr_willis> ChristopherWere:  so tell us what it does do exactly when tye system boots.
[11:34] <ChristopherWere> it boots into the command like,
[11:35] <ChristopherWere> when I log in and type starx it throws up the error that it can't do so because it can't detect a moniter
[11:35] <dr_willis> whats your video card?
[11:35] <megha> its used to build packages in a clean sandbox env without hurting the installed system
[11:35] <megha> sorry
[11:35] <ChristopherWere> nVidia GTX550 Ti
[11:35] <gnuyoga_> ChristopherWere: was it working well before ? is live USB/CD booting on to X and working fine ?
[11:36] <gnuyoga_> ChristopherWere: nvidia-settings or nvidia-xsetting program should help you reconfigure dr_willis: what say ?
[11:36] <ChristopherWere> It was working fine before, but I just turned it on this morning and it threw a hissy fit.
[11:37] <dr_willis> you have installed the nvidia drivers in the past?
[11:37] <Tex_Nick> XtremeWiz:  visit youtube & search for XDC2012 ... you'll find some neat videos about what those people do
[11:38] <ChristopherWere> nvidia-settings only works while booted into x, nVidia has been perfectly fine up until now. I've made no changes or anything
[11:38] <dr_willis> how did you install the nvidia drivers befor?
[11:40] <sakkemo> hi, lately, when installing software via apt-get install I can't run the binary directly before rebooting, but I have to use the full path (e.g. /usr/bin/elinks). After rebooting it works. Any ideas? Other programs with binaries in /usr/bin/ work and it is in $PATH.
[11:40] <ChristopherWere> through gtk-jockey
[11:41] <jrib> sakkemo: run "hash -r"
[11:41] <dr_willis> ChristopherWere:  try reinstalling them via the cli.. 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-current'
[11:42] <Miquel> hola a todos, hi all.
[11:42] <Miquel> alguien se acuerda como se llama el programa de instalacion de los programas de server en ubuntu server 12.04
[11:42] <Miquel> es que no me acuerdo y es mas fácil lanzar una instalacion desde alli.
[11:42] <gnuyoga_> Miquel: in english if possible ;)
[11:42] <Miquel> sorry,
[11:42] <Miquel> ok.
[11:43] <sakkemo> jrib: works, thanks! Any reason why it's not run automatically?
[11:43] <gnuyoga_> Miquel: no problem ;)
[11:43] <jrib> sakkemo: what shell do you use?
[11:43] <sakkemo> jrib: zsh, but just switched so I'm running someone elses config
[11:43] <DJones> !es | Miquel There is a Spanish language channel if you need it,
[11:43] <Miquel> i need de name of program thats run ubuntu server when you install this. I need tu run before the installation of ubuntu server. the version is 12.04
[11:44] <jrib> sakkemo: yeah with bash, there's some configuration so that happens automatically.  With zsh, not by default.  It never bothered me enough to look into it
[11:44] <Miquel> you know, how call this program. i not remember now.
[11:45] <sakkemo> jrib: All right, I think knowing this is enough for me as well. Thanks again :)
[11:47] <gnuyoga_> Miquel:  did u mean configuration setting page for Ubuntu Server ?
[11:47] <bibi23> I'm trying to write an http request in telnet, but pressing ENTER once sends it, so I can't send more than 1 line, it says in the docs it should only be sent after pressing ENTER twice, what is hapening?
[11:47] <gnuyoga_> Miquel: not sure if i get the question right
[11:47] <loculinux> ola
[11:47] <ChristopherWere> okay, I've managed to boot into X via a live USB
[11:48] <xatr0z> bibi23: try via netcat, so type: nc www.site.com 80
[11:49] <Miquel> gnuyoga_: I explain, I installed Ubuntu Server 12.04, with a couple of options that gives servers, and now wanted to run the program using ubuntu in the installation to see what other options I get servers.
[11:49] <bibi23> xatr0z: same issue, then I type "GET /[ENTER]" and I see the response content and the connection is closed
[11:50] <ChristopherWere> gnuyoga: I've in an x live environment now. What do I do?
[11:51] <ChristopherWere> I can't get fire over this, I just can't, I'm major freaking out. I need this problem to go away
[11:51] <dr_willis> i would of tried renaming your /etc/X11/xorg.conf  while booted on the installed system. and tried reinstalling the nvidia-current package
[11:51] <bibi23> xatr0z: my fault, I was missing the http protocol version.
[11:54] <ChristopherWere> okay renaming xconf didn't work
[11:55] <maxygas> hi can i get some help?
[11:55] <_NiC> I'm using 12.10 with xfce and an nvidia Quadro card, and whenever I resize windows, the redrawing lags horribly, does anyone know what's wrong? I'm using the recommended proprietary driver for nvidia. If I turn off "show content while resizing", the actual resizing is quick with just the outline, but when I release the mousebutton, the redraw of the content still lags..
[11:56] <jrib> sakkemo: there's a good discussion here: http://www.zsh.org/mla/users/2011/msg00527.html .  In the end, one option is to change your zsh completion to always rehash when completing
[11:56] <Tex_Nick> maxygas:  only if you specify your problem ;)
[11:56] <maxygas> ok :)
[11:56] <ChristopherWere> gnuyoga: so even after renaming xorg.conf it doesn't do anything to the problem. Any ideas?
[11:56] <linocisco> hi
[11:56] <linocisco> all
[11:57] <maxygas> i new installed bt5 r3
[11:57] <maxygas> 32
[11:57] <linocisco> what is the adobe illustrator like software as opensource?
[11:57] <dr_willis> ChristopherWere:  tried reinstalling the nvidia-current package like was mentioned a while back?
[11:57] <jrib> linocisco: inkscape
[11:57] <maxygas> i have tp link tlwn722n extern wifi device
[11:57] <Tex_Nick> linocisco:  inkscape
[11:58] <dr_willis> maxygas:  backtrack is not Ubuntu.. Backtrack has its own support channels.
[11:58] <dr_willis> !backtrack
[11:58] <linocisco> what is the corel draw  like software as opensource?
[11:58] <maxygas> i downloaded compat wireless driver ,newest
[11:58] <maxygas> i installed it and if i type lsusb i see the device
[11:58] <Tex_Nick> linocisco:  inkscape also ;-)
[11:59] <linocisco> Tex_Nick, thanks anyway
[11:59] <_NiC> ChristopherWere, if you can boot with a livecd and get a working X environment, it sounds like driver issues, so do the reinstall of drivers as suggested, on your actual installation
[11:59] <maxygas> but in iwconfig i dont see it
[11:59] <maxygas> any idea?
[11:59] <linocisco> what is the photoshop like software as opensource rather than GIMP?
[12:00] <judgen> What is the proper channel for ubuntu phone?
[12:00] <dr_willis> !phone
[12:00] <k1l_> !phone | judgen
[12:00] <judgen> saw it
[12:00] <judgen> thanks
[12:01] <nokia> f
[12:01] <Tex_Nick> linocisco:  most supported app for raster based graphics is Gimp ... most supported app for vector based graphics is inkscape
[12:01] <nokia> hi, is there a simple way to install  xsane-0.998 in Ubuntu 10.04?
[12:02] <dr_willis> nokia:  backports repo. ppas. or source..
[12:02] <dr_willis> !10.04
[12:02] <dr_willis> 10.04 is almost EOL
[12:02] <maxygas> i need to set up my wireless can somebody help me please?
[12:03] <dr_willis> !backtrack | maxygas
[12:03] <k1l_> maxygas: ask the backtrack support, like you were told
[12:03] <nokia> dr_willis Laptop has 4200AMD and newer distros do NOT support this with AMD official driver. The open drivers run hot 8c higher than the AMD driver
[12:03] <nokia> so i am stuck with older distro
[12:03] <maxygas> how?
[12:04] <dr_willis> maxygas:  ask in the backtrack support channels.. Not here.. Backtrack is NOT ubuntu
[12:04] <k1l_> maxygas: reaad the message the bot gave you
[12:04] <mvt007geek> i want to do a benchmark yaffs filesystem.i use a simulator to mount it in my pc. but i don't know if iozone can do that because of simulator or not.
[12:04] <ChristopherWere> gnuyoga: I'm removing all gtk-jockey related drivers and seeing if that helps
[12:05] <nokia> thats why i am using Ubuntu 10.04 and am trying to install  xsane-0.998 (broken dependencies)
[12:05] <Sven_vB> is lde (linux disk editor) no longer in precise's apt repos? apt seems to not find it even with universe enabled
[12:06] <dr_willis> nokia:  may be best to compile it from source
[12:06] <nokia> dr
[12:06] <maxygas> and how i will get massage from bot?
[12:06] <maxygas> sry im dumber
[12:06] <maxygas> :D
[12:06] <dr_willis> The bot has been telling you messages for the last 10 min maxygas
[12:07] <dr_willis> !backtrack > maxygas
[12:08] <maxygas> thank you
[12:09] <Sven_vB> !mint > Sven_vB
[12:09] <nokia> ok i will have  a  look at "Compiling things on Ubuntu the Easy Way"
[12:10] <partitions_gone> Anyone here? I need a bit of help...i had win8 and 2 ubuntu partitions happily running, then i decided to remove win8 and install win7.
[12:10] <partitions_gone> now my ubuntu partitions arent detected
[12:10] <dr_willis> !fixgrub
[12:10] <partitions_gone> and i cant boot into any of my OS
[12:10] <partitions_gone> i tried using testdisk
[12:10] <partitions_gone> and thankfully it shows my missing partitions
[12:10] <mobodo> hello! I'm trying to recover a hard drive that has read problems - when something like clonezilla fails with errors, anyone has a suggestion on what to try next?  I can still boot with the hard drive but eventually it locks and freezes
[12:11] <partitions_gone> but i cant figure out how to recover them
[12:11] <oldude67> !fixgrub > partitions_gone
[12:11] <dr_willis> mobodo:  ddrescue
[12:11] <dr_willis> mobodo:  ddrescue from a live cd.
[12:12] <partitions_gone> no see, the problem isnt just that i've lost grub. that's easily solvable. the problem is that even gparted fails to see my ubuntu partitions
[12:12] <mobodo> dr_willis: thank you I will try that
[12:12] <partitions_gone> it shows the two 40gb partitions as one 80 gb free space
[12:12] <partitions_gone> but as i said, testdisk shows them
[12:12] <partitions_gone> but i dont know how to recover them
[12:13] <partitions_gone> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2117292
[12:13] <partitions_gone> screenshots here
[12:13] <Tex_Nick> partitions_gone:  gparted provides functionallity to recover lost partitions ... someone elese would have to guide you though
[12:13] <dr_willis> i thought testdisk could also.. but ive never used that feature
[12:13] <ubuntuw1204> i ahhi
[12:13] <ubuntuw1204> hi
[12:14] <partitions_gone> yeah it wants me to mark my partitions as boot, primary, logical, extended etc
[12:14] <partitions_gone> but i dont want to mess it up
[12:14] <partitions_gone> tahts why im looking for someone who can advise me
[12:14] <dr_willis> use dd to image the messed up space to a spare hd/file first. :) just in case
[12:14] <ubuntuw1204> i had a pendrive which had some viruses was being used with windows . when i plug it in ubuntu i deleted the virus files
[12:15] <partitions_gone> http://i.imgur.com/Lv46zf7.png
[12:15] <partitions_gone> this is what it looks like
[12:15] <partitions_gone> left is gparted, right is testdisk with the missing partitons shown
[12:15] <ubuntuw1204> although the virus ran once in wine so is there a threat
[12:15] <partitions_gone> what next?!
[12:15] <ubuntuw1204> ?
[12:15] <ubuntuw1204> the contents of the file do not show up in windows
[12:15] <ubuntuw1204> but are visible in ubuntu
[12:16] <dr_willis> dd the usb flash to totally erase it and repartion/reformat it.. perhaps.
[12:16] <mvt007geek> is it good to use for filesystems? all i want to know is this: can iozone do test on a file-system which "'is not mounted anywhere and if i want to mount it i should use simulator "" ?  if the answer is yes how can i show the file system to iozone via command?
[12:16] <dr_willis> and you may want to remove your .wine directory
[12:17] <dr_willis> mvt007geek:  you have checked the iozone docs and homepage/faq and  searched for tutorials for its ussage?
[12:18] <ubuntuw1204> dr_willis: ?
[12:18] <ubuntuw1204> histo: ?
[12:18] <dr_willis> ubuntuw1204: ?
[12:18] <partitions_gone> umm anyone?
[12:19] <partitions_gone> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2117292
[12:19] <ubuntuw1204> dr_willis:i had a pendrive which had some viruses was being used with windows . when i plug it in ubuntu i deleted the virus files
[12:19] <ubuntuw1204> although the virus ran once in wine so is there a threat 05:45:14 IST
[12:19] <dr_willis> if no one has done it befor.. then no one really can advise..
[12:19] <ubuntuw1204> ? 05:45:15 IST
[12:19] <ubuntuw1204> the contents of the file do not show up in windows
[12:19] <FloodBot1> ubuntuw1204: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:19] <dr_willis> ubuntuw1204:  the contents of what file?
[12:19] <maxygas> in backtrack chat say :cannot send to channel   what is wrong?
[12:19] <ubuntuw1204> dr_willis: the files on the pendrive do not showup in windows but are visible in ubuntu
[12:19] <dr_willis> !regiester | maxygas
[12:20] <mvt007geek> dr_willis:  nothing about my situation exists
[12:20] <partitions_gone> okay
[12:20] <DJones> !register | maxygas
[12:20] <ubuntuw1204> dr_willis: does the virus work on wine and will it harm my pc
[12:20] <dr_willis> ubuntuw1204:  the virus has it encrypted or somthing... repartition it/reformat it to be clean of any malware on it
[12:20] <ChristopherWere> okay I got things working again. It was the nVidia propotirtory drivers messing me around. nVidia need to sort themselves out. Anyways thanks for the helps guys
[12:20] <DJones> maxygas: You need to register your nickname for IRC before you can speak in that channel
[12:20] <dr_willis> ubuntuw1204:  and as i said you may want to delete your .wine directory
[12:20] <ubuntuw1204> dr_willis: ok