[00:00] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: line 41: wlan0: "Authentication with 00:14:6c:da:55:d0 timed out."
[00:00] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-: It's ubiquity left overs. Probably because the installer didn't finish
[00:00] <oldgrump> TJ-: Thank you for all the effort you put in on my behalf. I'll drop a note if I have success.
[00:00] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: Can you do "pastebinit <( sudo iwlist wlan0 scan )"
[00:00] <SimpleAnecdote> I just did "sudo apt-get remove ubiquity" and it's gone.
[00:00] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: what do you believe that means?  about 5-ish other devices in this house can connect to it.  do you think its a problem on the router end?
[00:01] <TJ-> oldgrump: good luck with that - all the difficulties I hear with Macs makes me glad I didn't decide to adopt one back in 2007 :)
[00:01] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: well right now authentication fails, and it could be failing due to not being able to maintain a connection to the AP
[00:01] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: ubiquity was INSTALLED in the target!?!?
[00:02] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-: yeah
[00:02] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: was that something you did by accident when we had the chroot?
[00:02] <oldgrump> TJ-: Thanks. As a long time Apple II fan I weep for Apple's astronomical success.
[00:02] <gsilva> Hello all. I'm new to JS and I am interested to learn more to eventually master it. Be aware, I'm a complete stranger to programming. Can someone help me out for some time?
[00:02] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-: Absolutely not
[00:03] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: I'll listen out for others describing that then; would be fun to rib the ubiquity/cd-image maintainers if they've got it installing itself into targets :D
[00:03] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: paste.ubuntu.com/12934729
[00:04] <TJ-> gsilva: This channel is for Ubuntu OS support only; for general or specific programming there are other channels on Freenode, but you're probably best starting with general tutorials and most importantly reading existing, simple, code to get the feel of it
[00:05] <gsilva> Thanks, TJ-. I feel I'll only learn by getting my hands "dirty", hence my question. I don't have any particular question, but I can forward this to a devel channel
[00:05] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-: 1. Thank you so much! Can I buy you a coffee/beer for all this support? Are you a Canonical employee? 2. I'll try and write a StackOverflow on how we got around the issue eventually. I'll probably need your professional eyes to go over it, but it seems like we should pass this knowledge forward. This is a new laptop, but prerty popular. I've seen some people online with the same issue and no answers.
[00:05] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-: 3. I'm going to restart and do some things, I'll come back on and let you know everything is successful (including booting into Windows)
[00:05] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: the only thing I notice about 'steinberg' is it is offering both WPA2 and WPA. I suspect that is confusing the wpa_supplicant on your PC
[00:05] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: good luck, and enjoy :)
[00:06] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: not canonical, just another user like you.
[00:06] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: True- it is an old wrt54g and i chose it to allow both types of authentication.  i did not think it would be a problem though
[00:06] <millerti> I'm upgrading over two Ubuntu releases, so I have to do two do-release-upgrade's.  Do I need to reboot in between?
[00:06] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: maybe there's a setting can be added to Network Manager config files to force wpa_supplicant to use a particular version
[00:07] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: from my router: "Security Options: WPA-PSK [TKIP] + WPA2-PSK [AES]"
[00:07] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: OK, i'll look into it
[00:07] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: As a test can you change that to WPA2 only, and see if the client is OK then.
[00:09] <TJ-> millerti: Yes
[00:09] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-: http://askubuntu.com/questions/337615/after-updating-ubuntu-now-i-have-a-install-release-icon-in-the-desktop-what-s
[00:09] <millerti> TJ- Thanks.
[00:10] <Ownasaurus> sorry lost net
[00:10] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: it was a great thought, but unfortunately my findings contradict that. i changed it to wpa2 only, and i have the same issue i believe
[00:10] <millerti> One more question.  I'm getting all these errors about packages not being configured.  Like, "nfs-kernel-server depends on nfs-common (= 1:1.2.8-9ubuntu8.1); however: Package nfs-common is not configured yet".  What do I need to do to fix that?
[00:10] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: that seems to explain it then
[00:10] <ambitos> Hello everyone!
[00:10] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: OK, these things are a process of ellimination.
[00:11] <Ownasaurus> not a problem, i'm willing to do whatever it takes to help diagnose
[00:11] <linuxnewbie22> Hey, I'm trying to create a bootable usb on linux, but both unetbootin and startup disk creator don't work. Is there another way to do it?
[00:11] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: so, what we need is to gather more verbose logging from wpa_supplicant
[00:11] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-: Yeah, it says explicitly that ubiquity is installed on target
[00:11] <Ownasaurus> i think i know how to do that
[00:11] <Ownasaurus> i will disable network manager, run it with -vv or something, and then pastebin it?
[00:11] <Ownasaurus> run wpa_supplicant*
[00:12] <goddard> whats a good linux based hardware appliance style cloud USB or ethernet device?
[00:12] <ambitos> is it possible to read NTFS file system via LinuxMint?
[00:12] <goddard> ya
[00:13] <ambitos> Super! Can you send me a link
[00:13] <ambitos> ?
[00:14] <goddard> ambitos: it doesn't take a link
[00:14] <goddard> ambitos: you just click on the drive in nautilus
[00:14] <taco> woohhooo im online finally
[00:14] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: I've done a lot of work with programming ubiquity; ubiquity operates outside the chroot, so the mention that it is installed in the target normally is incorrect; it seems like when something goes wrong it somehow gets installed as a result of errors though, although figuring that out is sending my brain into a spin!
[00:15] <Guest64570> lol
[00:15] <ambitos> I need to install some tool or some software?
[00:15] <Guest64570> yes
[00:15] <goddard> ambitos: no
[00:15] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: in that syslog it says (line 20) "<info> Config: added 'key_mgmt' value 'WPA-PSK'" so we know what it was trying
[00:15] <rk_> why is whonix gateway with tor anonymous?>
[00:15] <goddard> ambitos: just click on the drive in nautilus
[00:15] <oldgrump> Is there any reason not to use "noatime"?
 Ok thank!
[00:16] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: I wonder if the client is trying to use TKIP rather than CCMP
[00:16] <millerti> Crap.  How do I reboot my machine?  I get "command not found" for both reboot and shutdown after upgrading.
[00:17] <goddard> millerti: sudo reboot should work
[00:17] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: paste.ubuntu.com/12934993/
[00:17] <millerti> goddard:  Nope.
[00:17] <millerti> This doesn't work either:  sudo /sbin/reboot
[00:17] <goddard> millerti: then you probably deleted your file system
[00:17] <Ownasaurus> millerti: shutdown -r now  ?
[00:17] <millerti> There is no shutdown command.
[00:18] <goddard> your running in memory then
[00:18] <goddard> turn the power on and off then
[00:18] <oldgrump> millerti:  there may be a "reboot" command
[00:18] <johnny_linux> sudo halt
[00:19] <goddard> pray you didn't delete your drive
[00:19] <millerti> Other stuff is there!
[00:19] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: wpa_supplicant, line 235 "wlan0: Event ASSOC_REJECT (13) received"
[00:19] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: does the wrt54g have some kind of MAC-based authorisation enabled?
[00:19] <oldgrump> johnny_linux: does "halt" tell acpi to power down?
[00:19] <goddard> millerti: how did stuff get deleted?
[00:19] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: the laptop used to be named ownamini and i had its mac address reserved.  but not required
[00:20] <millerti> I just upgraded to vivid, that's all.
[00:20] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: i renamed it owna-mini (the hyphen).   but certainly it still has the same mac address
[00:20] <kjoe666> ?
[00:20] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: however, i removed that entry hoping it would fix this.  that reservation is no longer in the GUI
[00:20] <goddard> millerti: doesn't sound good then
[00:20] <goddard> millerti: you might have to do a hard reset
[00:20] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: but yes i am also suspicious it may be the router....
[00:21] <kjoe666> hi everyone, im new to linux
[00:21] <goddard> millerti: hope your stuff is there
[00:21] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: that'd be for the DHCP side though; I'm on about the Wifi security side
[00:21] <goddard> otherwise save your home drive and install fresh
[00:21] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: I see.  no there is no mac address blacklist or whitelist
[00:21] <kjoe666> anyone know where to find some porn
[00:21] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: I have a wrt54g too; not used it in a while, but I seem to recall with dd-wrt there's a wifi security tab with various ways of enabling restrictions
[00:22] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: can other clients connect to that AP correctly?
[00:22] <oldgrump> kjoe666: google
[00:22] <Ownasaurus> yes, many
[00:22] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: got to think there's something lingering about this PC then, causing a reject
[00:22] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: just to make things even more confusing - the steinberg-den is hardwired to steinberg.    so i'm getting an IP from the steinberg router no matter how i connect.  but only from wireless AP #2 - -den
[00:22] <kjoe666> oldgrump im new to linux can you help me out?
[00:23] <oldgrump> kjoe666: prolly not. what's up?
[00:23] <rk_> lol
[00:23] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: that makes sense; AP association is orthogonal to DHCP leases
[00:23] <kjoe666> idk how to do anything
[00:23] <millerti> I'm watching the console via ipmi, and it says, Target filesystem doesn't have requested /sbin/init, so the Ubuntu upgrade totally screwed up.
[00:23] <rk_> can someone please explain why whonix works??
[00:24] <oldgrump> kjoe666: use the mouse. point and click.
[00:24] <kjoe666> ok
[00:24] <kjoe666> what are some benifits of linux?
[00:25] <rk_> free software
[00:25] <kjoe666> like?
[00:25] <rk_> go to the software store and check it out
[00:25] <oldgrump> kjoe666: you get the opportunity to learn how computers work (or don't work)
[00:26] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: sorry i lost connection for a while after changing a router setting.  last think I saw you say was "..., causing a reject"
[00:26] <max1> how can i use usb to back up an ubuntu system to windows 8? I can use virtualbox in windows
[00:26] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: that makes sense; AP association is orthogonal to DHCP leases
[00:27] <Ownasaurus1> the old me left lol
[00:27] <oldgrump> max1: the whole system? maybe dd or partimg.
[00:28] <TJ-> Ownasaurus1: now, I've just read something interesting. Does the AP's pass-phrase contain any weird characters? Some people report your issue when the pass-phrase has @ # $ / | and other symbols in it. Changing that on the AP fixed the issue for the client :)
[00:28] <ambitos> maxl: I had Ubuntu in Windows 7 via virtualbox
[00:28] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: very interesting.  no only abcABC123 characters
[00:28] <TJ-> Ownasaurus1: the other side of that is to double-check the saved passphrase on the client is what you think it is
[00:29] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: the saved passphrase is definitely correct because its the same as steinberg-den.  i copied and pasted to confirm i typed it correctly
[00:29] <Ownasaurus1> and tried a few times
[00:29] <edisto> i just installed ubuntu and am trying to get to a terminal screen so I can install kernel 4.3. When I hit ctrl + alt + f1 to get access it keeps flashing this on screen "Stopped User Manager for UID 120". I can't launch failsafe normally either since my Fury X is not supported. How do I get to a clean terminal to download and install kernel 4.3?
[00:29] <c0mcast> who got the new kernel update?
[00:30] <max1> oldgrump: not the whole system, just things in /home
[00:30] <TJ-> Ownasaurus1: "sudo egrep -A 6 '\[wifi-security\]' /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/* "
[00:30] <oldgrump> max1: This is a very simplified tutorial video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77muEvFpX1I
[00:31] <oldgrump> max1: If you need more control, many people swear by rsync
[00:31] <TJ-> Ownasaurus1: Those reports said this happened when the WRT54G had Mac Filtering enabled on the WiFi side
[00:31] <kjoe666> what is a GNOME?
[00:32] <c0mcast> its he thing in front of youre house
[00:32] <c0mcast> just kidding
[00:32] <c0mcast> its a desktop environment
[00:32] <allen> anyway to change default folder color in ubuntu-mate 15.10?
[00:32] <oldgrump> kjoe666: A graphical desktop environment
[00:32] <max1> oldgrump: thanks ... i got a double usb cord so i was hoping to be able to browse the ubuntu hard drive from a virtual linux os. but i don't where to find the usb drive there
[00:33] <oldgrump> max1: Not sure what to advise. It depends on how your VM is configured.
[00:33] <oldgrump> sorry
[00:36] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: egrep returned nothing   but i think im in a weird state right now.
[00:36] <Ownasaurus1> i did modprobe -r wl && modprobe wl
[00:36] <Ownasaurus1> now i think i need to reboot cause i have no internet :p
[00:36] <TJ-> Ownasaurus1: is the Network Manager WiFi connection a per-user connection possibly?
[00:36] <TJ-> Ownasaurus1: my command assumed it is a system-wide connection
[00:37] <wintolinux> Hello, can someone help me install ubuntu USB ?, but I'm trying not start usb
[00:37] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: im not sure what that means exactly
[00:37] <Bashing-om> edisto: Try key combo ctl+att+t at the desktop to launch a terminal interface.
[00:37] <TJ-> Ownasaurus1: NM can save connections for the entire system, or just for the current user.
[00:37] <Ownasaurus1> wintolinux: do you know if it was marked as an Active // bootable partition?  do you know how to get to a boot menu on your computer?
[00:37] <TJ-> Ownasaurus1: The command I gave you searched the directory where the system-connection config files are kept
[00:38] <edisto> Bashing-om: I can't get to the terminal I am stuck at "Stopped User Manager for UID 120"
[00:38] <edisto> Bashing-om: I mean desktop
[00:38] <TJ-> Ownasaurus1: if the wifi connection for 'steinberg' is a per-user connection it'll be saved somewhere under $HOME instead
[00:38] <TJ-> Ownasaurus1: however, if it IS a system-wide connection, then NM has not saved the passphrase
[00:39] <Bashing-om> edisto: Is this trying to boot the installed OS, or booting up the installer ?
[00:39] <kjoe666> my school gave everyone chromebooks for school and stuff, so you think i would get into trouble if i put linux on it?
[00:39] <wintolinux> Ownasaurus1 Yes, getting the boot menu but what happens is that ubuntu detected only detected windows
[00:39] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: well the egrep is returning nothing unless i am making a typo
[00:39] <Ownasaurus1> wintolinux: are you in windows right now with the USB drive in?
[00:40] <TJ-> Ownasaurus1: "sudo ls -l /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/" will list all the configs
[00:40] <wintolinux> Ownasaurus1 Yes,
[00:40] <edisto>  Bashing-om: the installed OS. Launching for the first time. My Fury X isn't supported in 4.2 kernel. So i'm trying to install kernel 4.3 but I can't stop it from flashing
[00:41] <Ownasaurus1> wintolinux: i would follow a guide like this: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/71432-partition-mark-active.html  to make sure you marked the USB drive as active.  this will make sure it is bootable
[00:41] <Bashing-om> edisto: One can set a boot parameter in grub to boot to terminal .
[00:41] <Ownasaurus1> wintolinux: either the GUI or diskpart method should work
[00:41] <kjoe666>  my school gave everyone chromebooks for school and stuff, so you think i would get into trouble if i put linux on it?
[00:42] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: yes it is listing the 3 i have tried to connect to ever on this machine
[00:42] <edisto> Bashing-om: ahhh... thanks i'll look into that I guess that will be my option out
[00:42] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: want the file pasted?
[00:43] <wintolinux> Ownasaurus1 Okay, ill try.
[00:43] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: the only difference between them is the network that works has the line "auth-alg=open"  and the other network does not
[00:43] <Bashing-om> edisto: Do ypi know how to boot to the grub boot menu and from there set the boot parameter ? Booting to terminal seems like a good way to go at this point .
[00:44] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: and of course the id and uuid and ssid
[00:44] <TJ-> Ownasaurus1: no, but look into the one representing the 'steinberg' AP and check "psk=" is correct
[00:45] <edisto> Bashing-om: I know how to get to grub just not how to set the boot parameter
[00:45] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: the psk is not listed, although it has key-mgmt=wpa-psk   and   psk-flags=1
[00:46] <TJ-> Ownasaurus1: on my WPA2-PSK connection I don't see an auth-alg, and 'open' sounds like it refers to an unencrypted AP
[00:46] <TJ-> Ownasaurus1: are you prompted for the key when the PC tries to connect?
[00:48] <Bashing-om> edisto: 'e' key for edit mode -> kerenl boot parameter screen. arrow down to the line starting with linux and across to "quiet splash" replace these terms and all after with systemd.unit=multi-user.target . key combo ctl+x to continue the boot process to TTY1 .
[00:48] <TJ-> Ownasaurus1: "wlan0: WPA: using KEY_MGMT WPA-PSK" indicates it is at least trying to use the correct algo. No info in that log if it passes a secret though
[00:49] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: yes, every time it fails it re-asks for the key.
[00:49] <kjoe666>  my school gave everyone chromebooks for school and stuff, so you think i would get into trouble if i put linux on it?
[00:49] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: im going to try and mac spoof to rule out my router somehow filtering it out (even though mac filtering is disabled?)
[00:50] <TJ-> Ownasaurus1: Ah, of course! key will only be saved if a connection is made
[00:50] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: i just have a strange feeling that makes no sense
[00:50] <edisto> Bashing-om: thanks much
[00:50] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: actually the steinberg-den does not have the password in its config file either!  must be stored elsewhere
[00:50] <TJ-> Ownasaurus1: I'm going to pull in the wpa_supplicant source-code, see what status code 16 means
[00:50] <Bashing-om> edisto: :)
[00:50] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: hardcore.  thanks.
[00:52] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: and mac spoofing did nothing :P
[00:53] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: i don't suppose you do xvnc hosuecalls?
[00:53] <kjoe666>  my school gave everyone chromebooks for school and stuff, so you think i would get into trouble if i put linux on it?
[00:53] <kjoe666>  my school gave everyone chromebooks for school and stuff, so you think i would get into trouble if i put linux on it?
[00:53] <kjoe666>  my school gave everyone chromebooks for school and stuff, so you think i would get into trouble if i put linux on it?
[00:53] <kjoe666>  my school gave everyone chromebooks for school and stuff, so you think i would get into trouble if i put linux on it?
[00:53] <Ownasaurus1> joe you'd have to ask your school if they care how you use it
[00:54] <kjoe666> ok
[00:54] <mido> hey
[00:54] <Ownasaurus1> joe just ask your IT guys, they're probably cool
[01:00] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: be back in 1-2 mins, making naother router change which will likely reboot it
[01:03] <Ownasaurus> back
[01:05] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: which ubuntu release is that? the 15.10 source doesn't contain the nl80211 "Connect event" string
[01:06] <wileee> kjoe666, it has linux in it
[01:06] <kjoe666> ?
[01:07] <kjoe666> wileee, what do you mean?
[01:09] <morick> anyone familiar with encrypting drives using cryptsetup?
[01:09] <morick> I need to remove encryption from my external drive
[01:09] <morick> but I'm having a bitch of a time
[01:11] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: sorry was doing other diagnostics. its 14.04 LTS and technically kubuntu.  i hope thats not a problem
[01:11] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: OK, got it, wpa 2.1, in function mlme_event_connect()
[01:11] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: no; I use kubuntu too
[01:11] <manoj> manoj
[01:12] <Jef91> Anyone know if there are nm-applet 1.0.x packages any for ubuntu 14.04?
[01:12] <morick> I tried sudo cryptsetup luksRemoveKey /dev/sdc1 but I got this warning
[01:12] <morick> sudo cryptsetup luksRemoveKey /dev/sdc1
[01:12] <morick> does that mean its terminal is going to format my drive?!
[01:12] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: not really helping; looks like the status code comes from the network or kernel driver itself: "event.assoc_reject.status_code = nla_get_u16(status);"
[01:13] <manoj> j
[01:13] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: do you think it is these?
[01:13] <Ownasaurus> http://www.aboutcher.co.uk/2012/07/linux-wifi-deauthenticated-reason-codes/
[01:17] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: also if it helps, this laptop authenticated fine from windows when it was still installed that same day
[01:17] <ambitos> when receive a message "Unable to mount location Can;t mount file" in a external hdd
[01:18] <ambitos> in linuxmint
[01:18] <ambitos> what can I do to fix it?
[01:18] <wileee> !mint | ambitos
[01:18] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: no, they are higher level - matching the syslog 'reason' codes. status_code comes from the kernel device driver. What device driver is that device using? Use "lspci -nnk" to identify the correct device and kernel module in use
[01:19] <ambitos> okk I am sorry
[01:20] <wileee> ambitos, No biggie, you want their help, no one mentioned earlier the general rule on derivatives.
[01:20] <ambitos> A last question to help me to desighied whitch linux I must install to my pc. Which is the best Linux ever?
[01:20] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: i believe i am using wl
[01:20] <wileee> the one you like
[01:21] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: and i think i tried a few others yesterday while trying to debug.
[01:22] <Eduard_Munteanu> ambitos, there isn't a consensus on that
[01:23] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: so its a Broadcom device?
[01:23] <wileee> ambitos, I suspect you might want support, so maybe consider that.
[01:23] <ambitos> Eduard_Munteanu: Ok thank you!
[01:24] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: yes, boardcom 13e4:4727 rev 01
[01:26] <Ownasaurus> Broadcom, rather * :P
[01:30] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: as i feared; the code is binary blobs
[01:30] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: so no clue there; I still think its a router issue though!
[01:31] <xieyi> I am using kde environment the plasma network manager doesnt show after I upgrade to 15.10
[01:31] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: the reject event comes from the AP and is passed through the kernel > wpa_supplicant
[01:31] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: dang.  and i got disconnected again hopefully i didnt miss any events
[01:32] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: so definitely router problem then?
[01:32] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: as i feared; the code is binary blobs
[01:32] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: so no clue there; I still think its a router issue though!
[01:32] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: aside from changing OS, my hostname changed from ownamini to owna-mini
[01:32] <Ownasaurus1> i could try switching it back...?
[01:33] <TJ-> Ownasaurus1: I can't imagine that'll change anything at the point of association
[01:34] <TJ-> Ownasaurus1: the only thing the AP will know is the client MAC, the algorithm, method, and secret
[01:35] <TJ-> Ownasaurus1: line 690-694 of the wpa_supplicant log are the key here; and that bubbles up as a result of the AP sending a message
[01:35] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: yeah... it didnt fix it.  but i am so clueless!!!
[01:35] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: how can reinstalling an OS make my router reject me?!
[01:35] <TJ-> Ownasaurus1: It loves you; it just decided to divorce your PC :)
[01:36] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: i almost want to reinstall windows just to see if it works again lol
[01:36] <TJ-> Ownasaurus1: the only other thing I could imagine would be you've limited the AP to X connections, and X clients are already connected and this PC makes X+1
[01:37] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: i am quite confidant thats not the case, which makes this crazy confusing
[01:37] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: espeically this should be considered an "old" device on the router
[01:38] <TJ-> Ownasaurus1: I've seen some of these routers retain fragments of config in their NVRAM saved settings that aren't displayed by the GUI - do you have shell access to the WRT54G to check what is actually in the saved config as opposed to being displayed by the GUI?
[01:39] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: how do i obtain shell access?  it's stock firmware.  that's new territory to me
[01:39] <Ownasaurus1> also i was wrong its a WGT624v3
[01:40] <TJ-> Ownasaurus1: not sure; I replaced stock so you'd have to investigate that.
[01:41] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: this router is at my parents' house where i am staying temporarily so i cannot factory reset it... so i may be stuck.  this router!!!! :P.
[01:43] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: well actually its ok, im gonna do a factory reset which i hope erases the NVRAM, brb
[01:45] <bewbz> Permission denied when trying create files with TOUCH or running any sudo commands... /help
[01:46] <bewbz> I've tried matching the hosts and hostnames but that doesn't seem to work
[01:47] <daftykins> bewbz: sounds more like your permissions are wrong, but i won't be assisting when you have such a juvenile nickname
[02:01] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: sorry im back after reprogramming all the router settings.  same connection problem!!!!!
[02:01] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: and i swear it works in windows!  im about to find a bartPE boot cd to confirm!
[02:01] <daftykins> Ownasaurus: TJ- was telling me about this one, sounds very interesting - which ubuntu is it you're trying with?
[02:02] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: have you powered off the PC and removed battery if needed?
[02:02] <TJ-> daftykins: 14.04 kubuntu, broadcom with wl driver
[02:02] <daftykins> ah ok
[02:02] <Ownasaurus> I am using 14.04 LTS, just installed last night.    powered off my laptop PC?
[02:02] <Ownasaurus> No I haven't, might that do somethign?
[02:03] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: i'm wondering if the hardware is keeping something 'bad' around
[02:03] <daftykins> certainly wouldn't hurt, i'd also try a different MAC with macchanger
[02:03] <Ownasaurus> i tried a mac switch with ifconfig hw ether
[02:03] <Ownasaurus> i changed the last digit - no fix
[02:04] <Ownasaurus> now shutting down, removing battery, making sure capacitors are drained, etc
[02:04] <daftykins> i'm not familiar with that method
[02:04] <Ownasaurus> ifconfig $interface hw ether $newMAC;
[02:04] <Ownasaurus> i can try your method if you'd like though
[02:06] <Ownasaurus> i just unplugged power, removed battery, tried turning laptop on (ensure all power is out), and am now rebooting
[02:06] <Ownasaurus> since this is a clean install, i'd be happy to try another release if you think it'd help diagnostically.  i have no data to lose.  i'd also allow someone to x0vnc in (so i can watch what is being done)
[02:07] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: same issue after draining power
[02:07] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: the wpa_supplicant log shows everything working as expected until the REJECT, that's the bit I don't get. There is no indication of abnormal operation anywhere
[02:08] <Ownasaurus> it's too bad i don't have a 3rd router here to test.  only these two at this house
[02:08] <Ownasaurus> i'm not as good as you guys, but im certainly not a networking newbie either.  and this has me completely stumped!!!
[02:10] <far> hello
[02:10] <far> hello
[02:10] <far> is anyone there?
[02:10] <far> clear all
[02:10] <Ownasaurus> hello far
[02:11] <iason> hello. i just installed xubuntu on my computer, and although i can see my 2nd hard disk on my desktop, i can't make changes to it - i can't paste a file - it is as if i don't have the rights. any ideas?
[02:11] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: is it possible the incorrect drivers would work with some routers but not others?  if wl doesn't work with everything
[02:12] <Ownasaurus> iason: is it NTFS?
[02:12] <iason> Ownasaurus, ext4
[02:12] <iason> Ownasaurus, i may be mistaken, though. how do i find out?
[02:12] <asdpoa> (Lubuntu 15.04) I installed a fix for the Belkin F7D2102 driver from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/F7D2102 (but with sudo dkms install 8192cu/1.10 for the updated version) and now my USB wifi dongle stopped working. lsusb shows that the OS has recognized the dongle is plugged in, but the light isn't even turned on on the device. I don't know what to do.
[02:13] <Ownasaurus> iason: egrep " ro,|,ro " /proc/mounts
[02:13] <Ownasaurus> might need to sudo that
[02:13] <bewbz> Hi: I'm trying to create this file > /etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules but I am getting this error touch: cannot touch ‘/etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules’: Permission denied
[02:13] <iason> Ownasaurus, nothing shows up
[02:14] <Ownasaurus> hmm, that means its probably not mounted as read only.  you could cat /proc/mounts to find the line for your 2nd hard drive and see how its mounted.  this might be beyond my beginner linux level though
[02:15] <asdpoa> Does anyone have ideas? I'm seriously desperate here
[02:15] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: I suppose it is, yes. Not being able to see the wl source its hard to know
[02:17] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: this was the most comprehensive guide i could find - http://askubuntu.com/questions/55868/installing-broadcom-wireless-drivers
[02:17] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: it says to explicitly remove any installed packages that may be conflicting.  do you know how to find if something is conflicting?
[02:17] <daftykins> which should also be...
[02:17] <daftykins> !broadcom
[02:17] <iason> Ownasaurus, rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,data=ordered 0 0
[02:18] <asdpoa> Did I not give enough information?
[02:18] <Ownasaurus> iason: sorry i'm not sure then.  most of the people here are far superior at linux than i am, just figured id give it a first crack.  i hope someone else can help you!
[02:19] <daftykins> asdpoa: modprobe the module you just installed
[02:19] <iason> anyone that could help me find out why i can't write changes on my 2nd hard disk?
[02:19] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: a conflict would cause the driver not to load at all
[02:20] <TJ-> daftykins: have you seen the wpa_supplicant log Ownasaurus captured? Line 690 is the interesting bit. http://paste.ubuntu.com/12934993/
[02:21]  * daftykins clicks
[02:21] <iason> I am able to do it as root though
[02:21] <asdpoa> Is it modprobe rtl8192cu, or modprobe rtl8192cu-fixes?
[02:21] <iason> How could I make my hard disk so that users can write changes?
[02:22] <Bashing-om> iason: Are you mounting in fstab ? or as on-demand ?
[02:23] <asdpoa> modprobe rtl8192cu-fixes gives me a "could not open '/lib/modules/3.19.0-30-generic/modules.dep.bin'" error, daftykins
[02:23] <jeffrey_f> What else is necessary to have bluetooth file send work from my phone to laptop????  Phone is paired already.
[02:23] <daftykins> asdpoa: check the name against what you installed
[02:24] <TJ-> daftykins: I traced the wpa_supplicant source-code back to try and identify the status_code 16, but it comes directly from the kernel driver, which is the opaque 'wl' blob
[02:25] <daftykins> TJ-: ugh, did we get an exact broadcom model? Ownasaurus ?
[02:27] <TJ-> daftykins: 13e4:4727 rev 01
[02:27] <Ownasaurus> daftykins: TJ-: yeah it says BCM4313bgn rev 1   but also [14e4:4727].  and the best part is i have 2 wpa routers and it connects to one but not the other
[02:27] <asdpoa> I cloned https://github.com/pvaret/rtl8192cu-fixes.git then dkms'd ./rtl8192cu-fixes. depmod rtl8192cu-fixes gives me a "not absolute path" error. I'm getting very frustrated.
[02:28] <Ownasaurus> although right now it is not connecting to either after modprobe -r 'ing everything and then modprove wl
[02:28] <jeffrey_f> I figured it out.....I needed to allow reception of files from devices set up.....
[02:28] <daftykins> Ownasaurus: one's just an AP daisy-chained though right?
[02:29] <Ownasaurus> correct.  i dont know the proper terminology
[02:29] <Ownasaurus> but i have the regular one and the -den one
[02:29] <Ownasaurus> the -den one is plugged into the regular one
[02:29] <Ownasaurus> i can wirelessly connect to -den   but not the regular one
[02:29] <daftykins> i'd imagine you have a wireless access point (WAP) plugged into a full-blown router
[02:30] <Ownasaurus> two routers, actually, but the dhcp is disabled on the -den
[02:30] <Ownasaurus> and its "special  5th port" is not being used (i am poor at routing terminology)
[02:31] <Ownasaurus> one of the 4 regular ports are plugged into 1 of the 4 regular ports
[02:31] <Ownasaurus> anyhow, works for every machine except this laptop on linux specifically!
[02:31] <Ownasaurus> worked on windows before the format yesterday afternoon
[02:32] <daftykins> is the point that the second router is too far from the intended usage spot?
[02:33] <Ownasaurus> precisely.  big house
[02:33] <Ownasaurus> i'm usually in the same room as the main router, the one that works is the other end of the house and a weak signal
[02:34] <TJ-> daftykins: scan: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12934729/
[02:35] <TJ-> daftykins: channel 6 'steinberg' is the problem AP
[02:37] <Ownasaurus> unfortunately its about bedtime for me
[02:38] <daftykins> mmm i can only suggest changing WPA mixed mode, or TKIP -> AES if possible
[02:38] <daftykins> i know you reset the router in question, but the defaults could be bad
[02:38] <daftykins> but yeah that's essentially broadcom for you :)
[02:38] <Ownasaurus> is WPA always TKIP and WPA2 always AES?
[02:39] <bewbz> I just upgraded to 15.10 but messed up my permissions or host name. I don't know. How do i Reinstall 15.10 but totally fresh?
[02:39] <daftykins> Ownasaurus: nope
[02:40] <daftykins> bewbz: change your nickname to something a teenager wouldn't use, then i'll consider replying.
[02:40] <Ownasaurus>  daftykins: well i can force it to WPA-PSK [TKIP]  (which its on now) or WPA2-PSK [AES] (which i tried earlier)   or allow it to accept both - which is where it started
[02:41] <daftykins> mmm, mixed mode tends to be the least reliable in wifi land
[02:41] <Ownasaurus> daftykins: noted.  did not know that
[02:41] <Vincent_AdultMan> Fresh re-installation of 15.10 tips?
[02:41] <Ownasaurus> He's all grown up :D
[02:42] <daftykins> boot flash drive ---> success
[02:42] <Vincent_AdultMan> really
[02:42] <Vincent_AdultMan> that's the only option
[02:43] <Ownasaurus1> and i don't suppose the channel matters? (i'm back after router reboot)
[02:44] <daftykins> nah, 1, 6 and 11 are best for 2.4GHz ISM band wifi, pick from those three based on anything in the neighbourhood
[02:44] <daftykins> Vincent_AdultMan: even the third world has flash drives these days, though if your /boot is a separate partition you could boot an ISO direct from there
[02:45] <Vincent_AdultMan> How do I create this file Log in as root and create this file: /etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules  without getting Permissions Denied?
[02:45] <Vincent_AdultMan> That's why I want to start over. I've spent six hours and can't figure it out. So i figure reinstalling 15.10 would be easier.
[02:45] <asdpoa> To daftykins, modprobe 8192cu got Lubuntu to recognize the USB dongle, so thank you
[02:45] <daftykins> six hours to edit one file?
[02:45] <asdpoa> Will I have to modprobe every time I boot?
[02:46] <daftykins> asdpoa: nah, if it doesn't load on boot... edit /etc/modules and put the module name in to make it load on boot
[02:46] <Ownasaurus1> Vincent did you use sudo to edit?
[02:46] <asdpoa> Would I add 8192cu, or 8192cu/1.10?
[02:46] <daftykins> asdpoa: mmm not sure, i would probably try both
[02:47] <Ownasaurus1> brb gonna *temporarily* put this router on WEP for kicks to see what happens
[02:47] <Ownasaurus1> actually no password
[02:47] <daftykins> not at the same time but "8192cu" first
[02:47] <Ownasaurus1> see if anything works...
[02:47] <Vincent_AdultMan> Yes
[02:47] <asdpoa> Okay
[02:47] <Vincent_AdultMan> used sudo to edit
[02:47] <daftykins> Vincent_AdultMan: maybe if you said what you're actually doing we might be able to understand
[02:48] <Elimin8er> I got a question, after updating to 15.10 today, My win machine will no longer connect to linux though the samba, samba is all running and so is winbind but for some reason it wont connect..  any idea of what I can do ?
[02:49] <asdpoa> While I'm here, I have another issue. After installing the module and rebooting, my largest screen resolution is now 1024x768, when it used to be 1280x1024. Did I break something in the kernel?
[02:49] <daftykins> asdpoa: graphics card + driver?
[02:49] <Vincent_AdultMan> I'm trying to follow step 3 from this link: http://developer.android.com/tools/device.html. I can't create a file. This is what everyone on stackexchange said http://paste.ubuntu.com/12938361/ but it
[02:50] <Ownasaurus> daftykins: TJ-: essid steinberg now has NO security and i still cannot connect!
[02:51] <daftykins> i'd probably try from a live session if possible right now, whilst it's open
[02:51] <Ownasaurus> meaning from a boot cd / usb?
[02:51] <daftykins> yep
[02:51] <daftykins> Vincent_AdultMan: if you can't even get these steps working, android development is not for you.
[02:51] <Ownasaurus> im on it
[02:51] <Vincent_AdultMan> you're right.
[02:53] <Ownasaurus> booting to my live kubuntu USB, then will report
[02:53] <asdpoa> To daftykins, the GPU is Nvidia Geforce 6150SE nForce 430, and the driver is the legacy driver version 304.128.
[02:54] <daftykins> oh ouch, an nforce 430 is ancient
[02:54] <asdpoa> Why do people always say things like that, I don't care if it's old, I just want it to work
[02:54] <daftykins> because eventually, old becomes "wow i saw that in a museum"
[02:55] <daftykins> asdpoa: there might be a clue in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:59] <asdpoa> To daftykins, could this be a clue? "[    19.807] (II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode "1280x1024" (hsync out of range)"
[02:59] <TJ-> asdpoa: because older devices have drivers that suffer bit-rot as less programmers care about them
[02:59] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: daftykins: could not connect to steinberg off the live USB either.   can still connect to steinberg-den
[03:00] <daftykins> asdpoa: could you pastebin the whole file? "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" with pastebinit installed
[03:00] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: got to be the router :D
[03:00] <Ownasaurus> i'll stay on the live USB in case you want me to do any diagnostics.  yeah wtf this router -_-  it must be failing or something
[03:00] <Ownasaurus> something must be corrupt
[03:00] <Ownasaurus> this behavior is totally illogical
[03:00] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: I noticed in the router manual it shows you can save the router config file. Do that, then inspect its contents - it might be pure ASCII text too
[03:01] <daftykins> Ownasaurus: i take it there's no newer firmware?
[03:02] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: is the other AP also a 104Mbps device, or simply 54G
[03:02] <asdpoa> To daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12938668/
[03:03] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: I'm wondering if it is something to do with trying to operate in a non-standard mode
[03:04] <daftykins> asdpoa: ok so the nvidia driver isn't being used because something has disabled KMS, hmm - it's on the VESA driver right now
[03:04] <cuihao> Hi, all. if I enable secure boot, can Ubuntu's signed grub2 chainload other kernel not signed?
[03:04] <daftykins> asdpoa: can you run "dpkg -l | grep nvidia | pastebinit" ?
[03:05] <asdpoa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12938732/
[03:06] <TJ-> asdpoa: can you "pastebinit <( dkms status )"
[03:07] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: can i send you my config dump as a file?
[03:07] <asdpoa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12938769/
[03:07] <Ownasaurus> its like part plaintext and part weird.  the first line has a ton of text that doesnt quite C+P
[03:07] <Ownasaurus> slightly binary perhaps
[03:08] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: Try "pastebinit <( hexdump -C /path/to/file )"
[03:09] <Ownasaurus> im on my win machine but let me see if i can do it on the live USB
[03:09] <TJ-> asdpoa: "pastebinit /var/log/dmesg"
[03:09] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: Ahh! push the file to one of those anonymous temporary file-sharing sites maybe?
[03:09] <asdpoa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12938801/
[03:11] <TJ-> asdpoa: Grrr, this is a SystemD ! "pastebinit <( dmesg )"
[03:12] <asdpoa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12938820/
[03:12] <TJ-> asdpoa: "pastebinit <( lspci -nnk )"
[03:12] <asdpoa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12938831/
[03:14] <Ownasaurus> just a moment please, redacting some of this config file
[03:14] <TJ-> asdpoa: daftykins line 652 "[    6.840725] systemd[1]: systemd-modules-load.service: main process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE"
[03:15] <daftykins> ooh you pesky init system!
[03:15] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12938860/
[03:16] <Ownasaurus> might not be fully redacted but close enough
[03:16] <asdpoa> So systemd is having trouble loading modules?
[03:17] <TJ-> asdpoa: everything points to that, yes.
[03:17] <asdpoa> This all stems from that damn Realtek chipset update
[03:17] <asdpoa> What do I do next? Reinstall the OS?
[03:18] <daftykins> purge all nvidia packages and reinstall nvidia-304 *shrug*
[03:18] <daftykins> certainly can't hurt anyway :)
[03:19] <asdpoa> sudo apt-get purge nvidia*?
[03:19] <daftykins> yep
[03:21] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: I don't see anything of a clue there
[03:21] <TJ-> asdpoa: Hang on
[03:21] <TJ-> asdpoa: "realtek chipset update"? maybe whatever that is, it broke the modprobe code
[03:22] <asdpoa> Too late TJ-, I already purged nvidia
[03:22] <asdpoa> And reinstalled nvidia-304
[03:22] <asdpoa> I hope daftykins didn't give me the wrong advice
[03:22] <Ben64> 304?
[03:22] <daftykins> asdpoa: you have to have restarted after the purge first
[03:22] <Ben64> oh, old card
[03:22] <TJ-> asdpoa: No, you'll just be right back where it was :)
[03:22] <daftykins> yeah nforce :(
[03:22] <asdpoa> It's a legacy driver for older Nvidia graphics cards that were around during the Carter administration
[03:23] <daftykins> aka hardware my clients threw away over 10 years ago
[03:23] <daftykins> lol
[03:23] <Ownasaurus> poor asdpoa, he loves his hardware tho
[03:23] <TJ-> asdpoa: we need to look at the systemd log. "sudo journalctl | pastebinit"
[03:23] <Ownasaurus> i finally threw out my pentium1 last year -_-
[03:24] <TJ-> asdpoa: we need more info on the "[    6.840725] systemd[1]: systemd-modules-load.service: main process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE"
[03:24] <slicknick5181> Good Evening all.
[03:24] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: daftykins: thanks for all of your time, both of you.  its great the community has people like you.  i should go to sleep and stop thinking about this silly router/linux/broadcom thingy for a while
[03:25] <daftykins> Ownasaurus: np, hope you work it out! fresh eyes in the morning perhaps :)
[03:25] <Ownasaurus> i'll try to remember to pop on IRC again, though i rarely use it, to follow up
[03:25] <Ownasaurus> Ownasaurus at gmail dot com if you have any brainstorms :P.   goodnight all
[03:26] <asdpoa> I'm going to apply for some government student grants and use the money to buy hardware that wasn't made when the Soviet Union was still around
[03:26] <asdpoa> Also, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12938985/
[03:26] <TJ-> asdpoa: haha! lines 677 onwards
[03:27] <TJ-> asdpoa: "sudo depmod --all" will fix it
[03:27] <asdpoa> Then reboot?
[03:27] <daftykins> !info linux-generic vivid
[03:27] <TJ-> asdpoa: no, after that ...
[03:28] <TJ-> asdpoa: ... "sudo modprobe nvidia-304"
[03:28] <asdpoa> I get nvidia-304 not found.
[03:28] <daftykins> is that 'cause it's currently removed?
[03:29] <TJ-> asdpoa: did you reinstall that package?
[03:29] <asdpoa> No, I thought I had to reboot before reinstalling nvidia-304
[03:29] <TJ-> asdpoa: no, reinstall it now, then we'll redo the "depmod" to be sure, and then try 'modprobe'
[03:29] <daftykins> i think TJ- has things in hand now, so you could pop it back on
[03:30] <TJ-> asdpoa: keep an eagle eye out for any signs of errors or warnings though
[03:31] <asdpoa> To be clear, what are the exact depmod and modprobe commands I will run?
[03:32] <asdpoa> TJ-, what depmod command do I run once nvidia-304 has been installed?
[03:34] <asdpoa> Is it sudo depmod --all?
[03:34] <daftykins> yep
[03:34] <TJ-> asdpoa: "sudo depmod --all" will regenerate the module alias database
[03:34] <TJ-> asdpoa: that's how the system matches a kernel module driver with the hardware ID
[03:35] <asdpoa> Okay, and now modprobe nvidia-304 is successful
[03:35] <daftykins> i would never run that
[03:35] <TJ-> asdpoa: now do "lspci -nnk -d 01de:03d0"
[03:35] <TJ-> asdpoa: and check that you see a "kernel driver in use: nvidia-304"
[03:36] <asdpoa> That command does not print out any information
[03:36] <TJ-> asdpoa: now do "lspci -nnk -d 10de:03d0" !! typo
[03:36] <asdpoa> Oh, never mind
[03:36] <asdpoa> The kernel driver in use is nvidia, not nvidia-304
[03:36] <seed_> t
[03:36] <TJ-> asdpoa: that's fine!
[03:36] <daftykins> seed_: t
[03:36] <seed_> \join #mybot
[03:36] <TJ-> asdpoa: now do "sudo systemctl restart lightdm" (I think that's correct!)
[03:39] <asdopa> Hi all. My screen resolution has returned to 1280x1024 and the wifi dongle seems to be in working order now. I would like to sincerely thank everyone who helped me, particularly TJ- and daftykins.
[03:39] <TJ-> asdopa: *YAY*
[03:39]  * daftykins bows
[03:40] <daftykins> truth is i just do it *slightly* wrong enough that TJ- steps in and does it all right ;)
[03:40] <TJ-> LOL
[03:40] <daftykins> !cookie | TJ- \o/
[03:40] <daftykins> :D
[03:44] <asdopa> I was wrong, there's another issue. This time with sound. I don't see a sound volume indicator on my taskbar.
[03:44] <asdopa> There must be an issue with pulseaudio.
[03:45] <TJ-> asdopa: in a terminal "pastebinit <( aplay -l; aplay -L )"
[03:45] <asdopa> The speaker jack is plugged into the computer.
[03:45] <asdopa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12939219/
[03:46] <TJ-> asdopa: OK, no sound drivers. Reboot. Test again. if still missing, come back
[03:46] <asdopa> I'll be back
[03:56] <Hulio> hi guys
[03:57] <Hulio> howdy?
[03:57] <liquidsnake> hello
[03:58] <daftykins> Hulio: question? ask it!
[04:15] <japhar81> is there any way to trace a reboot? I'm getting stuck on the 5 dots, and esc doesn't give me the text dump of whats going on
[04:17] <CarlFK> japhar81: alt f7 (or f1.. I forget what gets you to syslog)
[04:17] <japhar81> hah, i took a guess, stopping logstash fixes the rboot
[04:17] <japhar81> so i guess logstash does something goofy
[04:42] <juanx> Does this chat support ChromeBook installation support?
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> juanx: there are tricks to install ubuntu on chromebook with 'crouton'
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> juanx: never done myself
[04:46] <eltigre> I'm having trouble restoring X11 after I switched the drivers to xorg, and then rebootet
[04:46] <eltigre> I tried both the proprietary drivers and the free ones, also dpkg-reconfigure for X11
[04:46] <eltigre> nothing helps
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> eltigre: ubuntu version and grafix card chipset plz?
[04:47] <eltigre> vivid
[04:47] <eltigre> AMD APU
[04:47] <eltigre> lenovo thinkpad edge
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> eltigre: using radeon driver?
[04:47] <eltigre> not really
[04:48] <eltigre> I tried both
[04:48] <eltigre> currently the error is "Vesa: ignoring device with bound kernel driver"
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> eltigre: did you test on 14.04?
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> eltigre: have you installed ubuntu with internet+updates during setup?
[04:49] <eltigre> I don't have 14.04 installed
[04:49] <eltigre> yes
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> eltigre: pastebin sudo lshw -C video please?
[04:51] <eltigre> that will be tricky
[04:51] <eltigre> I'm not running xchat on the affected device obviously
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> eltigre: check just whats behind driver= please
[04:54] <eltigre> There is no driver section, also the output is in German
[04:54] <eltigre> I'm now rebooting to test if the splash option was the culprit
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> eltigre: then your card doesnt use right driver
[04:55] <eltigre> sorry
[04:55] <eltigre> it's working now
[04:55] <eltigre> the problem was I set the splash kernel option in grub
[04:56] <eltigre> I'm trying to get the brightness interface working... like for the hundredth time and none of the solutions I found with google seem to be working for me
[05:03] <eltigre> which sort of sucks... the only resort left is to backup everything and wipe the device... apparently a new linux install worked for some people
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | eltigre ==>fix broken packages
[05:03] <eltigre> hm
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | eltigre
[05:04] <eltigre> I don't think recovery mode would fix the brightness isue
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> eltigre: your card doesnt use the right driver...
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> eltigre: so first fix your driver, then brightness might be solved
[05:05] <eltigre> currently it's fglrx_pci
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> eltigre: try radeon
[05:06] <eltigre> from the drivers menu?
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> eltigre: yes the xorg one
[05:07] <eltigre> the xorg seems to be selected
[05:07] <Loshki> eltigre: you should probably have made such a backup already
[05:08] <eltigre> yeah
[05:08] <eltigre> nothing important
[05:09] <eltigre> I'll probably try to upgrade to 15.10 and then try to switch the drivers around
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> eltigre: for more stable, you can try LTS
[05:24] <Guest99520> ?
[05:25] <researcher123> is there a software for Ubntu which can be used to study trading charts, especially forex trading?
[05:39] <timaaarrreee> hey I posted this earlier today and have done some changes. It's a multi draw app which use tiles would appreciate if anyone tried drawing on it https://udraw.me
[05:39] <zatzed> What DE/WMs do you guys use?
[05:40] <gogeta> lxde
[05:40] <Any_where> Can anyone help me ?
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[05:41] <lotuspsychje> !flavors | zatzed
[05:41] <Any_where> hello?
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> Any_where: ask a question?
[05:42] <zatzed> I was just curious as to what you guys/girls use specifically..I'm well versed in other flavors of Ubuntu, DEs and WMs.
[05:42] <gogeta> zatzed, lots o good choices thow even kde 5 plasma is nice
[05:42] <hamsterpower> I'm looking for the 2 angels who helped me out yesterday :)
[05:43] <devslash2> has anyone here had a problem with Ubuntu 15.04 where right after the grub boot menu, the screen shows a purple splash screen and seems to hang after that ?
[05:44] <Any_where> My apache2.4 was warning syntax error Any_where: ask a question?
[05:45] <hamsterpower> devslash2: have you tried boot-repair?
[05:45] <eltigre> hamsterpower, you need to look away, because otherwise they can't move
[05:46] <Any_where> lotuspsychje:  LockFile ${APACHE_LOCK_DIR}/accept.lock
[05:46] <hamsterpower> eltigre: hahaha is that true?
[05:46] <eltigre> it's a doctor who joke
[05:46] <hamsterpower> ha, I see.
[05:46] <eltigre> the weeping angels
[05:46] <eltigre> anyway
[05:48] <hamsterpower> I get an error message: http://pastebin.com/quy62XRJ when I run "mean init appName"
[05:49] <hamsterpower> I don't know what: chown -R `whoami` ~/.npm is
[05:49] <Any_where> lotuspsychje:How to set the etc/apache2/apache2.conf LockFile?
[05:49] <hamsterpower> is 'whoami' where my user name goes?
[05:49] <devslash2> hamsterpower, when do ou do that ?
[05:50] <devslash2> hamsterpower,do i edit the grub line with that boot-repair command
[05:52] <hamsterpower> devslash2: I can't guarantee you this but I would try to boot again from usb and install boot-repair
[05:52] <hamsterpower> devslash2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[05:53] <demonlove> i  want to hide my top view toolbar how to do that?
[05:54] <demonlove> bottom has been done!!
[05:54] <hamsterpower> demonlove: ubuntu has bottom view toolbar?
[05:55] <demonlove> initially in gnome
[05:56] <demonlove> tell me abt top view hidding way!!
[05:58] <zatzed> demonlove: You should consider using a different desktop environment if you want to hide everything that makes up Unity..
[05:59] <Any_where> ls
[06:03] <hamsterpower> demonlove: conside arch :)
[06:03] <hamsterpower> *consider
[06:05] <smitb> Hello, I wanted to know the most popular desktop environment for ubuntu
[06:06] <demonlove> gnome!!!
[06:06] <smitb> how about kde?
[06:07] <JessicaJung_> Unity! :3
[06:07] <hamsterpower> xfce
[06:08] <demonlove> its like religious war!!
[06:08] <demonlove> forget it!!
[06:08] <hamsterpower> hahah yeah
[06:10] <smitb> Also, I was confused with this written about Unity on Wikipedia that it is a graphical shell for the GNOME desktop env
[06:11] <smitb> is Unity a Desktop environment or is it part of Gnome?
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> !unity | smitb
[06:13] <zatzed> Damn, we have a lot of commands.
[06:33] <linuxuz3r> hi how do i know my graphics driver
[06:34] <zatzed> Settings -> Software & Updates -> Additional Drivers
[06:50] <JessicaJung_> did 15.10 came with the new ubiquity layout?
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> JessicaJung_: why do you ask?
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> JessicaJung_: you have an issue wiht it?
[06:51] <JessicaJung_> it was somehow shown in omgubuntu.co.uk, maybe it came with it or is it the same ubiquity from the past releases
[06:52] <JessicaJung_> and I'll like to try it out when 16.04 comes
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> JessicaJung_: nice choice, first alpha is december 31
[06:53] <JessicaJung_> oh thanks for the info, but i'll wait until the 2nd beta
[06:54] <JessicaJung_> just to make sure python won't break on my face the next time I install mitmproxy
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> JessicaJung_: ok
[06:55] <JessicaJung_> I was having problems setting up Hyper-V on 15.04 -_-"
[07:01] <edisto> Anyone using ubuntu 15.10 and linux kernel 4.3rc6? I am getting the error EDAC sbridge: ECC is disabled. Aborting. // EDAC sbridge: Couldn't find mci handler. // and then a spinning circle that never boots
[07:03] <baizon> edisto: well this isnt an ubuntu issue, also you use a RC kernel, so things can break
[07:04] <edisto> baizon: Yeah, I figured I'd try here since no one in linux is replying
[07:06] <baizon> edisto: install rc7?
[07:08] <edisto> there is a rc7?
[07:08] <edisto> I just got the rc6 today =\
[07:10] <edisto> oh well... guess i'll be sticking to windows 10. I'd prefer to use ubuntu since it keeps me in work mode but what can I do =\
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> edisto: try LTS?
[07:13] <edisto> lotuspsychje: too much work to go back to 15.04 then install kernel 4.3. I just upgraded to 15.10 in expectations they by some chance supported the r9 fury x
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> edisto: 14.04.4 LTS doesnt run smooth for you?
[07:16] <dxt29> where cani get squid help?
[07:16] <edisto> lotuspsychje: I havent' tried 14.04. But i'm not sure it supports radeon fury x. Or a better question is I have a w8100 workstation in my secondary GPU slot which registers as my primary when I install ubuntu but why is it not registering as my primary when I boot for the first time
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> !squid | dxt29
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> edisto: try LTS live and checkout if its supported?
[07:21] <david____> Hello
[07:22] <camp91> hi
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> david____: welcome, what can we do for you?
[07:22] <linuxuz3r> xD
[07:22] <david____> I'm well thank you
[07:23] <david____> First time in an irc :)
[07:24] <linuxuz3r> hi dadu
[07:24] <linuxuz3r> hi david____
[07:25] <linuxuz3r> hi lotuspsychje
[07:25] <david____> Hello linuxuz3r
[07:25] <wafflejock> hello david____ this is a ubuntu support channel so if you have any ubuntu problems this is the place, lots of other channels you can join too though
[07:26] <david____> Nice thank you wafflejock
[07:26] <eltigre> now I am trying to switch to the fglrx driver in the drivers dialog and "apply" the changes, but when it's finished, without errors, the "X.Org" driver is still selected
[07:26] <eltigre> how come?
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> eltigre: reboot?
[07:27] <UniFreak> what's the best offline dictionary in Ubuntu?
[07:27] <eltigre> I'll try that
[07:28] <wafflejock> UniFreak: can't say I've used one recently, typically just rely on Google for it, know there are a few though
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> UniFreak: apt-cache search dictionary
[07:28] <wafflejock> UniFreak: assume you're using Unity?
[07:29] <linuxuz3r> what's the best offline dictionary in Ubuntu?
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> linuxuz3r: stop that
[07:29] <dxt29> I can't view google via my squid server, any body help?
[07:29] <wafflejock> dxt29: what did you try?
[07:29] <linuxuz3r> whats squid server
[07:30] <wafflejock> it's a proxy/cache
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> dxt29: maybe the #squid guys can help you also?
[07:30] <wafflejock> I've used it a few times
[07:30] <dxt29> they don't give a shit
[07:30] <wafflejock> typically just need to run squid on the server/proxy machine
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> !language | dxt29
[07:30] <dxt29> sorry for that, lotuspsychje
[07:30] <ycon_> Hi all, setting up a server for the first time. Not sure whether to go Ubuntu 14.04 or 15.10. Im concerned the newest version might have an issue/not be as compatible? Or is that incorrect?
[07:31] <wafflejock> you have an ssh connection with the ports tunneled for squid then you set the proxy connection on the client
 Hi all, setting up a server for the first time. Not sure whether to go Ubuntu 14.04 or 15.10. Im concerned the newest version might have an issue/not be as compatible? Or is that incorrect?
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> ycon_: if your looking for stability, choose LTS
[07:31] <wafflejock> ycon_: use 14.04
[07:31] <ycon_> lotuspsychje, thought so
[07:31] <wafflejock> ycon_: hello again too :)
[07:31] <ycon_> wafflejock, hi again
[07:31] <JessicaJung_> ycon: I suggest sticking to LTS versions since they have longer maintenance periods than regular releases
[07:32] <dxt29> wafflejock, I configured squid in a vps, but it's working abnormal
[07:32] <shanemikel> yeah, I'm pretty bummed about losing my vivid install next year
[07:32] <wafflejock> dxt29: are you doing the same kind of setup I was describing, ssh from the client to the squid server then setup the proxy settings in the network panel on the client?
[07:32] <dxt29> google's homepage  sometimes is fine
[07:33] <dxt29> the others like gmail,youtube,play just dont
[07:33] <wafflejock> hmm yeah not sure, I didn't do too much web browsing through mine really was just using it as a way to get onto a remote network to get into VoIP stuff
[07:33] <dxt29> wafflejock, you mean I should setup a ssh to the server?
[07:34] <wafflejock> that's how I was doing it yeah
[07:34] <dxt29> wafflejock, why
[07:34] <dxt29> OK, please help me
[07:34] <linuxuz3r> oh halloween is near
[07:34] <tlt> what is the codename for 14.04? Thought it was vivid actually
[07:34] <JessicaJung_> dxt29:so you're practically saying, it won't work on Java and Flash?
[07:34] <wafflejock> dxt29: basically so I could use a web browser to navigate to web interfaces on VoIP devices on the remote network
[07:34] <tlt> 12.04 was trusty afaik
[07:34] <dxt29> wafflejock, what if I don't setup a ssh connection?
[07:35] <dxt29> because it works fine sometimes
[07:35] <JessicaJung_> tlt: it's trusty
[07:35] <dxt29> but not always
[07:35] <dxt29> JessicaJung_, no
[07:35] <tlt> JessicaJung_, 14.04 or 12.04? I was wondering which codename 14.04 had/has
[07:35] <dxt29> JessicaJung_, sometimes works, but sometimes wont
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> !trusty | tlt
[07:36] <tlt> ah
[07:36] <tlt> thank You
[07:36] <shanemikel> UniFreak: it seems goldendict and artha are popular
[07:36] <plebe> howdy
[07:36] <wafflejock> dxt29: believe I had to use squid3 instead of squid package http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=squid3&searchon=names&suite=trusty&section=all not sure if it's related to your issues though
[07:36] <shanemikel> also, there are a couple built as widgets for kde afaik
[07:36] <JessicaJung_> tlt: 14.04 is Trusty Tahr (whatever you spelt it, it has three point releases, being a LTS release
[07:37] <tlt> yep thanks a lot u both
[07:37] <wafflejock> dxt29: I had the ssh tunnel because the squid server was on a remote machine and I didn't want my traffic exposed for what I was doing on any of the remote machines since I had to type in passwords and all, don't think squid itself does any encryption
[07:38] <shanemikel> ubottu: artha seems nice, has a thesaurus built-in too
[07:38] <shanemikel> oops
[07:38] <JessicaJung_> oh btw, how do you get a Hyper-V server working in Ubuntu, I'm having problems mining using Hyper V XD
[07:38] <shanemikel> UniFreak: artha has built-in thesaurus
[07:39] <dxt29> wafflejock, I compiled squid 3.5.10 personoly
[07:39] <wafflejock> dxt29: in that case my proxy sees it as though it's going to a local port and ssh is redirecting that to the squid server, just uses ssh with the -L flag
[07:39] <wafflejock> ah
[07:39] <dxt29> *personally
[07:39] <wafflejock> I just used the squid3 package
[07:40] <wafflejock> nothing in the logs that points to problems?
[07:40] <dxt29> wafflejock, the default squid3 package does't support ssh
[07:40] <wafflejock> meant my client* not my proxy above
[07:41] <wafflejock> hmm had it working, was on a beaglebone black, what was the issue you saw with ssh?
[07:41] <dxt29> I can't follow you wafflejock
[07:41] <dxt29> you mean logs ? OK, I'll paste some
[07:42] <virgosun> Hi all,
[07:42] <virgosun> I am installing canberra for event sound and input feed back sound
[07:42] <virgosun> I installed freedesktop sound theme and moblin
[07:42] <virgosun> All sound files are there
[07:42] <virgosun> but only trash empty event trigger sound.
[07:42] <virgosun> other events like: login, dialog error , etc etc no sound...
[07:42] <wafflejock> dxt29: yeah asked about the logs, not sure what you were saying about it not supporting ssh
[07:42] <wafflejock> virgosun: you've been muted for a minute don't paste in here use pastebin or type your question all in one line
[07:43] <virgosun> hi any one here
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> virgosun: only ubuntu support here
[07:44] <dxt29> wafflejock, MYLOG:<IP_ADDRESS> TCP_MISS_ABORTED/000 0 GET http://www.youtube.com/ - HIER_DIRECT/2607:f8b0:4007:80a::200e
[07:44] <wafflejock> dxt29: perhaps this http://linuxadmin.melberi.com/2015/04/squid-error-tcpmissaborted000-0-get.html
[07:45] <wafflejock> dxt29: I've run into other IPv6 issues before
[07:46] <virgosun> Hi lotuspsychje so can you support me with event sound xfce
[07:46] <ycon_> I'm trying to install Postgres on 14.04. Says "E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'postgresql-9.4" so I ran apt-get update and had no success
[07:47] <wafflejock> ycon_: 9.3 is the latest it looks like http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=postgres&searchon=names&suite=trusty&section=all
[07:47] <ycon_> brb
[07:47] <wafflejock> I mean latest in the repos
[08:02] <linocisco> hi all, whenever my ubuntu 15.04 x86 boot, many problem popup
[08:03] <lotuspsychje> !details | linocisco
[08:03] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, /var/crash has many files
[08:04] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, whenever I am typing in any text box, pointer is going anywhere at any time randomly and annoying and typed texts are gone
[08:07] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: read your logs mate, i cant see it from here
[08:07] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, which logs?
[08:07] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: syslog,dmesg
[08:08] <auronandace> linocisco: sounds like you are accidentally touching the thouchpad while typing
[08:10] <linocisco> auronandace, no. no . I did take care of touch pad
[08:13] <Dro> anyone have an idea how can i make a mailing list so if someone send an email to mailinglist@address all subscribers receive the email?
[08:14] <wafflejock> Dro: you can setup a mail server but probably easier to use something third party like mailchimp
[08:15] <Dro> wafflejock, mailchimp don't provide a mail address that someone can send mail to it
[08:15] <lotuspsychje> Dro: sounds like you need a googlegroups email
[08:16] <wafflejock> ah right was thinking on the mass mailing/user sign up side but not like a mailing list
[08:16] <Dro> wafflejock, what about the mail server, any link to follow?
[08:17] <wafflejock> Dro: eh it's kinda complicated in my personal experience but once you have postfix setup to use mysql you can modify a sql entry to say what e-mails get forwarded to what accounts but imagine there are some prebuilt mailing list solutions that are more to the point
[08:18] <Dro> i hope i find one :/
[08:18] <wafflejock> Dro: I used this guide http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/#config-secure-auth and had to read up on DKIM and SPF so google wouldn't mark it all as spam https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix/DKIM then also had to fill in some thing with AWS to send out e-mails from my EC2 instance so they knew I wasn't a spammer
[08:19] <wafflejock> Dro: hence the suggestion for something third party
[08:20] <wafflejock> Dro: probably https://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/ <-- read up on that maybe
[08:20] <Dro> lotuspsychje, in the case of googlegroups, all users must have a google account
[08:21] <wafflejock> Dro: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mailman
[08:22] <Dro> wafflejock, thanks
[08:22] <wafflejock> Dro: Postfix lets you hook in spam assassin for marking e-mails as spam or filtering them out entirely and stuff for adding the DKIM signature and running the e-mails through clamav and basically lets you hook in a bunch of other stuff but exim might be easier
[08:22] <wafflejock> Dro: np good luck on that took me a few days of tinkering around to get it all working
[08:23] <a1> hi
[08:25] <wafflejock> hello a1
[08:25] <linocisco> lotuspsychje_, syslog=http://paste.ubuntu.com/12941165/
[08:26] <frenda> Following this instruction: http://docs.syncthing.net/intro/getting-started.html#installing, This is my case: A fedora on my desktop computer running syncthing.x86 and an Ubuntu on my laptop running syncthing.x64;  Laptop is conected to my ADSL modem by <IP_ADDRESS> and my desktop computer is connected by <IP_ADDRESS>; I've introduce DeviceID  of my
[08:26] <frenda> machines to each syncthing, but they are in disconnected mode!
[08:26] <frenda> What's lost?
[08:28] <linocisco> lotuspsychje_,dmesg has nothing inside
[08:29] <wafflejock> frenda: never used it but can try here https://forum.syncthing.net/c/support
[08:29] <wafflejock> frenda:  can also try using nmap perhaps on the ubuntu box to check open ports on both machines on the network
[08:30] <wafflejock> frenda: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/saucy/man1/nmap.1.html
[08:31] <frenda> Ok, going take a look at it
[08:47] <jhjjjrjr> Hi guys, can someone recommend me cheap 4g lte modem that support ubuntu?
[08:50] <the_drow> hi guys, I upgraded to ubuntu 15.10 and it seems that it failed because the computer was abruptly shut down
[08:50] <jhjjjrjr> Good job
[08:52] <the_drow> Now when I boot the computer and try to decrypt my filesystem I get https://www.dropbox.com/s/kp01na2rwgnjryl/20151025_102737.jpg?dl=0
[08:52] <the_drow> Is there any way to restore my file system using a live cd
[08:53] <the_drow> Or should I give up now and reinstall?
[08:55] <wafflejock> the_drow: what are you losing?
[08:55] <wafflejock> the_drow: was it a near fresh install or lots of data on there?
[08:55] <the_drow> maybe one commit that I haven't pushed yet
[08:55] <wafflejock> I would just wipe I think
[08:55] <the_drow> Other than that, hours of reinstalling my development environment
[08:55] <wafflejock> don't know about encrypted volumes though
[08:55] <wafflejock> someone else may be able to help
[08:56] <wafflejock> right understand the time
[08:56] <wafflejock> the_drow: I did a walkthrough on YouTube for setting up my development environment in part as a bit of personal advertising but also to have notes on what to do :)
[08:57] <wafflejock> the_drow: hopefully one of these new ideas around the package deployment and stuff will make getting it all installed easier (dockers or snappy packages or something)
[09:01] <wafflejock> the_drow: what ubuntu version?
[09:01] <the_drow> 15.10
[09:03] <the_drow> wafflejock: brb
[09:11] <sennn> 媽了個頂頂的
[09:12] <MonkeyDust> !cn
[09:12] <ycon_> I keep getting systemctl not found ubuntu 14.04 server. An apt-get install of systemd doesn't help. Any suggestions?
[09:13] <pirate> ycon_: isn't it sysctl
[09:16] <akik> initctl
[09:16] <akik> 14.04 is not running under systemd
[09:18] <ycon_> akik, so if I use initctl its the same as systemctl?
[09:19] <wafflejock> ycon_:  systemd is a separate init system from upstart so initctl is to do with upstart init scripts and systemctl is to work with systemd, sysctl instead is to work with kernel paramaters
[09:19] <akik> ycon_: yes. try initctl help or initctl list
[09:20] <akik> it's not "the same as"
[09:20] <ycon_> Ahh. I'm trying to restart ngnix with (systemctl restart nginx). so how would this be done with initctl?
[09:20] <akik> ycon_: those services are configured in /etc/init
[09:21] <wafflejock> ycon_: usually just, sudo service nginx restart
[09:21] <ycon_> wafflejock, Thanks
[09:22] <akik> ycon_: you didn't run initctl help, did you?
[09:22] <wafflejock> np all those commands are confusing
[09:22] <dylan> hey guys just installed ubuntu 14 on my main laptop
[09:22] <ycon_> akik, I didn't run initcatl help
[09:22] <dylan> i overwrited windows 8.1 because it was being slow and stuff
[09:22] <dylan> so i hope i have a fantastic time meeting you guy
[09:22] <dylan> s
[09:23] <MonkeyDust> dylan  sounds great... are you a bit familiar with ubuntu linux?
[09:23] <dylan> yeah kinda i tested ubuntu in my virtual machines etc
[09:23] <dylan> i had trouble cause i had to enable uefi
[09:23] <dylan> and like my laptop was saying no operating system detected and some windows boot loader stuff
[09:24] <wafflejock> dylan: yeah that can be a speed bump
[09:24] <dylan> so i ended up going with the windows boot loader one and overwriting it so now when i boot my hp up it doesnt have Win 8.1:d
[09:24] <dylan> i love ubuntu 14.04
[09:24] <dylan> cause i thought my 1.90 core i3 wouldnt handle ubuntu
[09:25] <dylan> so how you guys doing
[09:26] <MonkeyDust> dylan  this is support, we have #ubuntu-offtopic for nice social chat
[09:27] <dylan_> my ubuntu did something werid
[09:27] <dylan_> it said it had 0.26
[09:27] <dylan_> on battery and jumped up to 44
[09:28] <dylan_> and its not in the AC
[09:35] <linocisco> hi all
[09:36] <linocisco> my ethernet eth0 wont connect to IPv4 and instead IPV6 is connected though I disabled IPV6 via network manager
[09:37] <linocisco> and also /etc/network/interface is configured as static also
[09:37] <linocisco> and also /etc/network/interface is configured also to manual. but nothing worked
[09:38] <wolfman2000> Morning. When it comes to compiling programms manually (configure/cmake && make), what is the behavior if you pass a make -j2 for two CPUs/cores and you actually only have one?
[09:38] <UniFreak> I find that if after a file is downloaded in chrome, when I click 'open in folder', the explorer will open in background, I need to switch to it manually.
[09:38] <UniFreak> is it a bug or supposed to be so?
[09:44] <linocisco> my ethernet eth0 wont connect to IPv4 and instead IPV6 is connected though I disabled IPV6 via network manager
[09:44] <linocisco> and also /etc/network/interface is configured as static also
[09:44] <Num83rGuy> I plug my laptop into my TV for video and emulators. I need to keep the TV on and/or make it the only display when I shut my laptop lid. I cannot find out how anywhere. Ubuntu 15.10 ATI free drivers.
[09:44] <sennn> good ,  i will update to 16.04
[09:45] <bazhang> sennn, theres nothing to update to now with that
[09:45] <sennn> ....
[09:46] <bazhang> 15.10 was *just* released sennn
[09:46] <sennn> i known
[09:46] <abb4s> hi every body i want to install wine 1.6 but i get this error : http://termbin.com/ps3k
[09:47] <bazhang> abb4s, is that from the #winehq repos
[09:47] <abb4s> bazhang, yes
[09:47] <bazhang> abb4s, ask them for a more recent one, if you must
[09:48] <sennn> bazhang, 你可知道,我就是想升級到16.04測試版
[09:48] <cfhowlett> !cn | sennn
[09:49] <bazhang> nothing to test sennn not even close, and please english here
[09:49] <sennn> 不
[09:51] <Guest8123> hi.guys .  to share internet via bluetooth nap,  and syslog say "Can't add bnep0 to the bridge pan1" . what should i do? my sys 15.10.
[09:51] <linocisco> hi all
[09:51] <linocisco> my ethernet eth0 wont connect to IPv4 and instead IPV6 is connected though I disabled IPV6 via network manager
[09:52] <Denlobah> I plug my laptop into my TV for video and emulators. I need to keep the TV on and/or make it the only display when I shut my laptop lid. I cannot find out how anywhere. Ubuntu 15.10 ATI free drivers.
[09:52] <hetii> Hi
[09:52] <hetii> I use toram option to boot remastered iso image of linuxmint. My issue is that /etc/fstab that I put inside this iso is ignored
[09:53] <hetii> any clue what to change to have static mount point ?
[09:53] <abb4s> i think #winehq members are in sleep , so can you help me ? i want to install wine 1.6 but i got this error : http://termbin.com/ps3k in ubuntu software center
[09:53] <MonkeyDust> hetii  mint support in the mint channel
[09:54] <hetii> MonkeyDust: whatever it  is almost the same system ...
[09:55] <MonkeyDust> hetii  almost but not quite
[09:55] <hetii> ok so give me answer for ubuntu :)
[09:56] <bazhang> hetii, the answer for ubuntu is to go the mint support channel
[09:56] <MonkeyDust> !mint | hetii
[09:58] <Denlobah> No one has a clue on my multi monitor issue?
[09:58] <hetii> ping <-> pong
[10:07] <Denlobah> well it seems that if i move my mouse after closing the lid the external comes back on.  This is odd behavior and the devs need to look at it.
[10:15] <lettuce45> hi, im on a conundrum: i use xubuntu and I have a problem with kde and qt icons: they just dont appear on the overhead panel. Now, if I asked this on xubuntu, id have to wait way much more time for an answer than here, and I dont know the chances you work with xfce. If I wanted to start a thread on the forums, where should I do it? I want a fast answer
[10:17] <MonkeyDust> !forum | lettuce45
[10:26] <cfhowlett> lettuce45, ask #xfce
[10:27] <lettuce45> cfhowlett, i alreadyd did, they suggested to aske the vendor, which im doing
[10:31] <xieyi> why does not netbeans under ubuntu 15.10 list any available plugins?
[10:31] <xieyi> How could I install netbeans plugins
[10:36] <pirate> How do I use the new amdgpu kernel driver? I installed the package xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu and rebooted; how do I know if I'm using it instead of radeo?
[10:37] <pirate> xieyi: Plugins are installed individually http://wiki.netbeans.org/InstallingAPlugin
[10:39] <xieyi> pirate: thx
[10:42] <anony> Hey everyone. Has anyone managed to install Steam on 15.10? http://paste.ubuntu.com/12942218/
[10:44] <pirate> anony: It's a known bug in Steam, see here, there might be a workaround http://askubuntu.com/a/614458
[10:46] <MoonUnit`> running this flushes the bad drivers for steam, from the arch wiki but still works for me.  : find ~/.steam/root/ \( -name "libgcc_s.so*" -o -name "libstdc++.so*" -o -name "libxcb.so*" \) -print -delete
[10:47] <anony> pirate, MoonUnit` I see* thank you for the information.
[10:47] <pirate> anony: MoonUnit's command is the same as my link, just in a one-liner
[10:48] <Rudde> Hello! I'm running ubuntu server and I was wondering if there are any easy way of making KVM VM's?
[10:48] <hrusti_> how to bind keyboard arrows to numpad?
[10:48] <pirate> Rudde: There's a few tools for that, see this wiki page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/CreateGuests
[10:49] <pirate> Rudde: It might be a bit out of date but still useful
[10:50] <Rudde> I've tried virt-amanmager many times
[10:51] <Rudde> but the xml files are really hard to work with
[10:51] <Rudde> and confusing
[10:51] <pirate> I think that's just part of the territory, unfortunately
[10:51] <pirate> they're XML files so they can be programmatically created, checked into source control, etc
[10:52] <Rudde> Are there any web tools I can use to create them or a reference to work out from?
[10:52] <Rudde> Where I can speciy arch, ram, cores etc..?
[10:52] <pirate> Rudde: I don't know a lot about KVM but perhaps you could make one with some GUI tool, and then use that XML to make small changes?
[10:53] <pirate> ^peter^: There is a #kvm channel on this network too
[10:53] <pirate> Rudde: ^
[10:53] <MoonUnit`> i use virt-manger too, but annoying if you have a root and home seperate partitions . by default images will go in /var/lib/libvirt/images
[10:53] <MoonUnit`> so could fill up your root partition
[10:53] <MonkeyDust> Rudde  also check out vagrant and lxc
[10:55] <akik> MoonUnit`: you can mount a separate partition from other storage to /var/lib/libvirt/images
[10:55] <dionysus69> when I do this in virtualbox.desktop file Exec=gksudo -k -u root virtualbox, the app doesnt start. what am I doing wrong?
[10:56] <MoonUnit`> akik, made a symlink for images so it points to a folder in /home/
[10:56] <hetii> Q: when /etc/fstab is evaluated?
[10:57] <pirate> hetii: When the upstart job configured in /etc/init/mountall.conf  is run, during system boot
[10:57] <bekks> hetii: A: whenever it is needed.
[10:57] <EriC^^> dionysus69: might work without -k
[10:57] <bekks> hetii: Whats the actual issue leading to your question?
[10:57] <bekks> dionysus69: Dont start virtualbox as root.
[10:58] <hetii> bekks: I try guess why toram option do not use entry from /etc/fstab
[10:58] <MonkeyDust> pirate  it may be different in Mint, tho, better ask in the Mint channel
[10:58] <pirate> dionysus69: why do you think you need to run vbox as root? maybe we could help with that problem instead
[10:58] <dionysus69> bekks: i need to, I am running windows that is on my real SSD
[10:58] <bekks> dionysus69: Its basically never needed and insecure, theoretically.
[10:58] <MonkeyDust> hetii  ^^
[10:58] <pirate> MonkeyDust: What's mint got to do with it?
[10:58] <bekks> dionysus69: no one needs to. Even not in your use case.
[10:58] <MonkeyDust> pirate  was not for you
[10:58] <cuoreDi> Hello' what is the best way to set up a free proxy ?any specific tool?
[10:58] <Rudde> MonkeyDust: I can't rewally use kernel 4 since I have alot of drivers I only know works in kernel 3 right now.
[10:58] <pirate> cuoreDi: probably apache?
[10:58] <ikonia> cuoreDi: squid ?
[10:58] <pirate> cuoreDi: What do you want to do with it?
[10:59] <dionysus69> bekks: then fine, help me start a vm that is on my hard drive without sudo :D
[10:59] <pirate> dionysus69: are you virtualising a real windows install?
[10:59] <pirate> dionysus69: does that even work?
[10:59] <EriC^^> pirate: he's using a raw disk image i assume
[10:59] <bekks> dionysus69: No big deal. Add your user to the "disk" usergroup, and create an appropriate udev rule assigning the correct permissions on the device nodes needed.
[10:59] <icebal> cuoreDi: Pritunl
[10:59] <icebal> oops
[11:00] <icebal> thats vpn...
[11:00] <cuoreDi> I want to change my ip to bypass a site restrictiin
[11:00] <pirate> How do I use the new amdgpu kernel driver? I installed the package xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu and rebooted; how do I know if I'm using it instead of radeon?
[11:00] <dionysus69> pirate: yes I have done it many times
[11:00] <bekks> cuoreDi: Sochaneg your IP.
[11:00] <pirate> cuoreDi: you could use a VPN
[11:00] <bekks> cuoreDi: So change your IP.
[11:00] <ikonia> cuoreDi: not going to help you with that in here
[11:00] <pirate> cuoreDi: there's a million and one crappy browser extensions that do what you want
[11:00] <icebal> host it on digital ocean for an hour
[11:00] <dionysus69> bekks: huge deal for me I dont know how to do any of that :D
[11:00] <cuoreDi> Restriction to my country
[11:00] <bekks> dionysus69: Still root is the worst approach.
[11:01] <pirate> cuoreDi: Read this, come back and ask questions http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-setup-transparent-proxy-squid-howto.html
[11:01] <dionysus69> bekks: I know but I dont know how to do it better :P if you teach me its fine though :D ok so first I add my user to usergroup disk
[11:01] <dionysus69> then?
[11:01] <icebal> cuoreDi: digitalocean.com and setup Pritunl. its a vpn server that is one click deploy pretty much
[11:01] <cuoreDi> Thank you
[11:01] <bekks> dionysus69: then you need to create an udev rule to change the permissions of the device nodes needed.
[11:02] <dionysus69> ok so how do I do that? my device is sda, bekks
[11:03] <bekks> dionysus69: Similar to this: http://linux.campacasa.eu/VirtualBox_and_Raw_Disk_Access - the udev rule is explaied there.
[11:03] <bekks> dionysus69: using the vboxuser group would be more sane, but using disk instead should do the job, too.
[11:04] <dionysus69> ok thanks will take a look
[11:05] <dionysus69> bekks: btw I broke my setup twice already because I missclicked on a grub to launch running ubuntu second time. bad.
[11:06] <bekks> dionysus69: Dont do it then. :P
[11:06] <dionysus69> bekks: well it wont happen again if I dont run virtualbox with sudo
[11:15] <capsicum1> looking at giving lxd a try under ubuntu.
[11:31] <swengin> I have a long running process in ssh but my connection was reset and ssh is stuck and I can't see any progress in the process
[11:31] <swengin> is there anyway to refresh the shell?
[11:33] <ikonia> ssh is stuck ? what do you mean ?
[11:34] <swengin> the process running was showing progress and after connection reset not any more
[11:34] <ikonia> no, because all processes will be terminated when your session dies
[11:35] <swengin> cool
[11:50] <mike432> UBUNTU DEBIAN files released for encrypting E-Mail Client and Messenger GOLDBUG
[11:50] <mike432> http://sourceforge.net/projects/goldbug/
[11:50] <ikonia> mike432: ? what's the problem ?
[11:51] <mike432> https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Goldbug
[11:51] <ikonia> mike432: no mike
[11:51] <ikonia> stop spamming
[11:51] <ikonia> unless you atually need help with it, don't want to hear about it again please.
[11:52] <mike432> i looked at it
[11:52] <mike432> and have some questions if someone is awar, but i will find out
[11:52] <ikonia> mike432: you've spammed it in 6 channels blindly - stop
[11:53] <bekks> mike432: I you have questions about it, ask the authors of that project.
[11:56] <jim87> hello! I'm getting a strange problem: my system all of a sudden freezes... how can I debug a thing like this? Memtest+ reports no errors and (on Windows, stable) the Intel Burn Test passes 50 steps with the maximum stress. Any hint?
[11:57] <jim87> REISUB does not work when frozen btw
[11:57] <bekks> jim87: How long did you run memtest+?
[11:57] <jim87> bekks: 3 hours
[11:57] <bekks> jim87: Are the keyboard LED blinking when it freezes?
[11:57] <jim87> nope, it doesn't seem to be a kernel panic =\
[11:58] <bekks> jim87: Then you have to take a look at the logs in /var/log/
[11:58] <ikonia> jim87: so if you touch caps lock, the light doesn't come on / off ?
[11:58] <jim87> ikonia: nothing, the system is completely unresponsive
[11:58] <jim87> I thought of a nVidia driver issue, but again REISUB should still work at that poing
[11:58] <jim87> point
[11:59] <lotuspsychje> jim87: wich brand is this machine?
[11:59] <ikonia> jim87: you'll have to go back to basic, pulling hardware any seeing which bit casuses
[11:59] <jim87> lotuspsychje: I've built it...
[11:59] <ikonia> it sounds like  hardware problem, either compatability or failure (less likley failure)
[11:59] <jim87> ikonia: will try... starting from the RAM I suppose (even if it's rock solid in memtest and Windows? but for Windows it could be a different mem management)
[12:00] <lotuspsychje> jim87: ive had an acer once that freezed with netboot on ubuntu, was working on windows
[12:00] <ikonia> windows isn't really a good "test", you won't like it, but leave memtest runing for 24 hours to gain some confidence
[12:00] <bekks> jim87: How often did it freeze until now?
[12:00] <ikonia> then move forward from there
[12:01] <jim87> bekks: I've installed it yesterday, and it froze in LiveCD... today again. I tried installing Ubuntu before and the same happened (so that I returned to Windows... but I want to fix this *stupid* problem)
[12:01] <jim87> ikonia: if only I could let the computer run "idle" for 24h :P I will try with at least 18h
[12:01] <lotuspsychje> jim87: uefi system?
[12:02] <jim87> lotuspsychje: yep
[12:02] <ikonia> jim87: why cant you let it run for 24 hours but you can for 18 ?
[12:02] <jim87> ikonia: I need to work in the evening
[12:02] <bekks> jim87: Not on that machine :P
[12:02] <jim87> bekks: the only one I've got at home :P
[12:03] <jim87> (btw if I don't reply is because I'm frozen lol)
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> jim87: if its singleboot, disabled fastboot and secureboot and IDE change to AHCI?
[12:03] <bekks> Yeah, sounds like successful working, too.
[12:03] <jim87> lotuspsychje: my P8P67 shouldn't have secureboot AFAIK... have to check
[12:04] <johnny_linux> sounds like video hardware
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> johnny_linux: good afternoon mate
[12:05] <johnny_linux> ive built hundreds of machines, it always pointo to video
[12:06] <lotuspsychje> jim87: can you details us about grafix card?
[12:06] <jim87> johnny_linux: is there anything I can do to let the graphic card run "natively" without the freezes? :P Don't want to rely on MESA when I've got a dedicated GFC
[12:06] <jim87> may nouveau help? I've got a 560 GTX
[12:06] <jim87> btw syslog reports no error
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> jim87: optimus card?
[12:07] <jim87> lotuspsychje: nope, it's a desktop GPU with no optimus capabilities
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> ok
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> jim87: we had issues with 970 GTX black screens this week also
[12:08] <jim87> uhm... but this is different IMO, as the screen just freezes, doesn't turn black or with artifacts
[12:09] <jim87> but in case of driver fault, shouldn't the kernel go in panic mode and blink the caplocks led?
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> jim87: you getting freezed in nomodeset also?
[12:09] <jim87> have to try - have to edit the grub line, right?
[12:09] <segin> jim87, only if it's the kernel driver going crazy. X drivers run in usermode and don't (usually) cause kernel panics
[12:09] <jim87> segin: ok, but REISUB should work at that point then
[12:10] <segin> and speaking of driver issues... I'm having an odd one of my own
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | jim87
[12:10] <jim87> I've noticed that when the freeze happens the audio card (USB one) "resets", because it interrupts the signal to the audio monitors for a second (i.e. when it resets)
[12:11] <segin> most fullscreen games (or trying to use 'xrandr -s 0' from a shell) ends up giving me either 1024x768 or 1366x768 (native), with a X viewport of only 640x480
[12:11] <lotuspsychje> jim87: wich ubuntu version was this?
[12:11] <jim87> lotuspsychje: Trusty
[12:11] <segin> I'm on 15.10 although it happened with 15.04
[12:11] <segin> I've got "hybrid graphics", using the NVIDIA GPU (GeForce GT 740m), not sure which nvidia-driver version
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> jim87: you could try a 15.10 livecd also, just to test if you can bypass that freeze
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> jim87: or loading up previous kernels on trusty
[12:13] <jim87> lotuspsychje: this happened ~ one year ago too, so I think if it's a kernel bug, it's been there by a long time
[12:13] <jim87> lotuspsychje: yep I'll try on the latest live... even if I'd prefere to stick to LTS
[12:13] <lotuspsychje> jim87: yeah, its just to test out
[12:13] <jim87> just have to find a new USB stick lol
[12:13] <lotuspsychje> :p
[12:14] <jim87> will try the memtest for as much hours as possible just to exclude mem corruption
[12:14] <jim87> even if the IBT stresses CPU and RAM a lot and it seems to be solid
[12:15] <jim87> (but again running on Windows, who knows)
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> jim87: if windows is running it fine, should be an ubuntu issue
[12:16] <jim87> lotuspsychje: that's true. I was thinking about running other distros liveCD to see if it's a common linux problem or an Ubuntu's regression
[12:16] <symbiiote> Hey people
[12:16] <jim87> hoy
[12:16] <symbiiote> Whats going on in our internet world today?
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> jim87: i would start with nomodeset/live 15.10/previous trusty kernel
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | symbiiote
[12:17] <jim87> lotuspsychje: will try nomodeset and live CD. worst thing is that I don't know what's going on - whatever happens it's not logged down in the logs
[12:17] <jim87> *sigh* at least Windows has the BSOD and minidump
[12:17] <jim87> is there a way to let Linux create a dump in these cases?
[12:18] <bekks> jim87: Which doesnt help you in case of a freeze, either.
[12:18] <bekks> jim87: If the thing freezes, thedump writing mechanisms are frozen too.
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> jim87: try F1 or ESC if you can reach to purple ubuntu screen loading to catch errors
[12:19] <jim87> lotuspsychje: when it freezes, it's completely unresponsive... only way to go on is to force shutdown via hardware button
[12:19] <lotuspsychje> jim87: yeah thats what bekks just said
[12:19] <jim87> btw now it's not freezing... like a bomb, it may explode anytime
[12:20] <segin> okay, how about this: How do I manually set a screen size (not resolution) using 'xrandr' from a shell?
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> !xrandr | segin can this help?
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> !info arandr | segin or try GUI
[12:21] <segin> lotuspsychje, maybe. When games, etc. try to go fullscreen, they get a virtual screen size of 640x480 at the screen resolution the requested
[12:21] <segin> lotuspsychje, this is highly annoying and also reproducible with simply 'xrandr -s 0' as well
[12:22] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> segin: even when the game settings were set correctly?
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> hi BluesKaj
[12:22] <MonkeyDust> segin  open the xrandr man page ... then hit / ... type 'screen size' and hit enter   (without quotes)
[12:22] <Twirl> hi, anyone knows how to add/create color profiles? the color settings in the system settings comes with a lot of preset color profiles but i need to try something else
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: good afternoon
[12:22] <segin> lotuspsychje, I have no idea; this happens for freshly-installed games as well
[12:22] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje
[12:22] <BluesKaj> hey lotuspsychje
[12:23] <segin> also arandr has nothing on screen size (as opposed to resolution) in the UI it gives.
[12:24] <MonkeyDust> segin  the xrandr man page suggests --fb
[12:26] <giannis> hi
[12:26] <MonkeyDust> segin  http://paste.ubuntu.com/12942906/
[12:28] <vkt> has anyone ever encountered the error: invlaid magic number. unaligned pointer 0xde061d38?  Google cant seem to help either.
[12:29] <cyberalex4life> hi guys, I'm getting 'No volume groups found' when updating grub, I have a gpt partition table, system boots nicely
[12:29] <bekks> vkt: The message tells you exactly what to do.
[12:29] <cyberalex4life> do you know if I should worry or is this can be fixed?
[12:29] <xhip> guys I never did this.. and I need some help
[12:29] <segin> MonkeyDust, hitting / and doing a search told me to use --fb, not --size. And all that did is result in a blank screen with the backlight turned off. Recovery from a console didn't remedy (e.g. DISPLAY=:0 xrandr -s 0). Had to kill X and let lxdm restart it.
[12:29] <ikonia> never did what ?
[12:30] <bekks> vkt: you got a severe fs problem, and you need to run fsck -f from a live medium.
[12:30] <vkt> bekks Press any key to exit?
[12:30] <xhip> "a new version of /boot/grub/menu.lst is available..."
[12:30] <ikonia> what's offering you that ?
[12:30] <xhip> I will take a print
[12:30] <vkt> bekks: I did, managed to fix the fs to the point where i could recover my data from a live medium
[12:30] <ikonia> xhip: no
[12:31] <ikonia> xhip: "what is offering this to you" - don't need a screen shot
[12:31] <xhip> have like 7 options
[12:31] <xhip> one default is "keep the local version currently installed"
[12:31] <k1l_> xhip: what are you doing at all? upgrading your ubuntu version?
[12:31] <xhip> this is a dist-update
[12:31] <ikonia> xhip: what EXACTLY hav eyou done
[12:32] <k1l_> xhip: from what to what?
[12:32]  * cfhowlett thinks "What we have heah is failure to communicate ..."
[12:32] <xhip> ok I only  "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:32] <ikonia> xhip: nothing before that
[12:32] <xhip> no
[12:32] <k1l_> menu.list sounds like some really old ubuntu? what is that exactly? xhip
[12:32] <ikonia> so it's just updated the kernel
[12:32] <buntugeek> hello everyone, where should i have my installation folder for a ide?
[12:32] <bekks> vkt: did you run fsck or fsck -f ?
[12:33] <buntugeek> stupid question i know ._.
[12:33] <segin> MonkeyDust, also, --size (-s) doesn't help; specifying by index only gives a single list entry (0) and now we're back to where we started.
[12:33] <ikonia> buntugeek: anywhere you want
[12:33] <buntugeek> i have my android studio in the home directory
[12:33] <xhip> ikonia  yes
[12:33] <ikonia> buntugeek: ok ?
[12:33] <vkt> bekks: i miss read, only rank fsck
[12:34] <bekks> vkt: so run fsck -f from a live medium.
[12:34] <buntugeek> ikonia: and i have sublime and eclipse in /opt folder
[12:34] <ikonia> buntugeek: ok ?
[12:34] <vkt> bekks: on it, thx =)
[12:35] <buntugeek> ikonia: is /opt a special folder for installing external softwares? I just dont want to cluter my home directory
[12:35] <ikonia> buntugeek: no
[12:36] <xhip> so guys witch option should I go.. http://i.imgur.com/Uhe2F1P.png
[12:36] <ikonia> xhip: top
[12:36] <xhip> ok thanks
[12:36] <k1l_> xhip: what ubuntu is that exactly?
[12:37] <ikonia> looks like the grub->grub2 upgrade,
[12:38] <xhip> k1l_ I think is just a kernel update, I was getting a “The following packages have been kept back:”
[12:38] <xhip> so I did the dist-update
[12:38] <ikonia> xhip: what version of ubuntu are you running
[12:38] <ikonia> packages held back sounds a very bad thing
[12:39] <k1l_> xhip: "lsb_release -d" gives you what?
[12:39] <xhip> Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS
[12:39] <ikonia> so thats not grub2 upgrade, thats just a kernel update, which shouldn't be asing you to merge grub config
[12:40] <xhip> ok so on new headers I can do the first opt .. right
[12:40] <xhip> just to learn..
[12:40] <bekks> xhip: kernel headers are unrelated to that grub message.
[12:41] <ikonia> xhip: there must be something you are not telling us
[12:41] <xhip> this was the reason that I did that:
[12:41] <xhip> The following packages have been kept back:
[12:41] <xhip>   linux-headers-generic-lts-utopic linux-headers-virtual-lts-utopic
[12:41] <xhip>   linux-image-virtual-lts-utopic linux-image-virtual-lts-vivid
[12:41] <mahdi_> hello
[12:41] <k1l_> menu.lst is grub1. so either that is an old install upgraded to 14.04 and kept grub1 or its a strange setup
[12:42] <mahdi_> can i ask Question
[12:42] <ngaio> is there a known bug with "ImportError: No module named glib" on Unity & 15.10? A desktop with no Unity and no Compiz is not easy to use!
[12:42] <bekks> mahdi_: Yes.
[12:42] <mahdi_> ?
[12:42] <k1l_> xhip: put all the terminal output into a pastebin
[12:42] <k1l_> !paste | xhip
[12:42] <lotuspsychje> xhip: are you trying to upgrade to 14.10?
[12:43] <vkt> bekks so fsck -f fixed a few inodes but booting results in the same error msg
[12:43] <ikonia> menu.lst still gets generated in grub2 as it's a symlink,
[12:44] <bekks> vkt: Then your underlying disk is damages and you should immediately replace it.
[12:44] <ikonia> grub.conf, so it still could be a symlink
[12:44] <xhip> weird.. I just wanted to apt-update and upgrade..
[12:44] <xhip> not nothing super advance lol
[12:44] <xhip> but let me past it
[12:44] <ikonia> paste what ?
[12:44] <ngaio> this is the error I get when trying to start Unity from the command line: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12943045/
[12:45] <bekks> ngaio: Why dont you use lightdm instead?
[12:45] <ikonia> ngaio: why are you starting unity from the command line
[12:45] <soupnanodesukar> pci passthrough is broken in 4.2
[12:45] <soupnanodesukar> just fyi
[12:45] <ngaio> bekks, ikonia because it's crashing when I load the desktop
[12:45] <ikonia> soupnanodesukar: you've just said random words
[12:45] <ikonia> soupnanodesukar: if you want help, please ask clearly
[12:46] <vkt> bekks: I actually recall the incident most probably causing physical damage to my ssd... thx for your adivce.
[12:46] <bekks> vkt: Which incident was it? :)
[12:46] <ikonia> ngaio: a.) what version of ubuntu is this b.) has this always been broke since install or has something changed
[12:47] <vkt> bekks: using the wrong modular power cable to connect the ssd. I remember something probably was shorted out and started to smell.
[12:47] <ngaio> ikonia, Ubuntu 15.10, upgraded using install from USB flash into a new partition today. Unity worked fine for me in 15.04
[12:47] <ngaio> compiz is not loading either, so no window decorations
[12:49] <xhip> Logs here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12943068/ @k1l_ @ikonia
[12:49] <ioria> ngaio, Guest Account ?
[12:49] <ngaio> ioria, no regular account. I keep /home on a separate partition
[12:49] <ngaio> ioria, oh you're suggesting I try a guest account?
[12:49] <ngaio> I didn't try that yet
[12:49] <ikonia> xhip: I'd jus pick the first option
[12:49] <ioria> ngaio, i mean have  you  tried Guest Account ?
[12:50] <xhip> ikonia  I did tha
[12:50] <ngaio> how do I logout with no window decorations and no unity? can I do it from the command line
[12:50] <xhip> that*
[12:50] <ikonia> if you're missing modules, a different user isn't going to work
[12:50] <k1l_> xhip: the utopic kenrel is end of life. sudo apt-get remove linux-headers-generic-lts-utopic linux-headers-virtual-lts-utopic linux-image-virtual-lts-utopic
[12:50] <ioria> ngaio, sudo service lightdm restart ?
[12:50] <ikonia> shouldn't auto clean pick that up ?
[12:50] <ngaio> ioria, thanks, I'll try it now
[12:51] <xhip> I was thinking of running now autoremove
[12:51] <xhip> got this: The following packages will be REMOVED: linux-image-3.16.0-45-generic
[12:51] <k1l_> ikonia: if that is marked as manually installed, no.
[12:51] <k1l_> xhip: yes. that is right.
[12:52] <ikonia> k1l_: ahh, so the manual install blocks it from being cleaned up
[12:52] <xhip> ok it finished.
[12:53] <xhip> k1l_  should I run that remove that you send me?
[12:53] <k1l_> xhip: yes
[12:53] <xhip> that is to remove old headers right?
[12:54] <k1l_> xhip: no. the 3.16 kernel is from the 14.10 backport, which is EOL. you have the 3.19 kernel installed anyway.
[12:55] <xhip> oh ok, you the system is already linked to the new version right.. so I can remove the last ok ok
[12:55] <ngaio> back again. I'm the user with Unity failing to start with my regular user. In a guest session, Unity works! So something is wrong with my user config. Can I reset it from the command line while logged into X (with no window decorations and no unity)?
[12:55] <ioria> ngaio, .compiz    ,  .config   or  both
[12:56] <xhip> :) Welcome to Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.19.0-25-generic x86_64)
[12:56] <xhip> done ;D
[12:56] <ngaio> ioria, what's the suggestion? narrow it down to one of those two dirs?
[12:57] <ioria> ngaio,   try to back  up the two folders
[12:57] <ngaio> ioria, thanks, I'll do that and login again
[12:57] <ioria> ngaio,  ok
[12:57] <xhip> going to restart the system
[12:59] <mcphail> ngaio: can you right-click on the dektop and access a terminal?
[13:01] <ngaio> ioria, bekks and one more person,thank you very much for your help, I now have Unity back and working with my regular user! Thanks again, your help is much appreciated
[13:01] <demonlove> can anyone give me the way how to compose makefile?
[13:01] <ioria> ngaio,  you'r welcome ,
[13:02] <lotuspsychje> !compile | demonlove
[13:03] <demonlove> f..k no one is here!!
[13:04] <cfhowlett> demonlove, drop the profanity.
[13:14] <xhip> back :)
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> missed you
[13:16] <xhip> Thanks for all the help @k1l_ @ikonia you guys are awesome
[13:18] <ziad> i need help instaling ubuntu sdk
[13:18] <parv> j
[13:28] <cm-t> hi, I just installed apt://steam on my 64bit Ubuntu 15.10 but steam controller does not works (worked on a 14.04.3 LTS)
[13:28] <cm-t> I'am a bit confuse because howto like https://askubuntu.com/questions/686214/how-do-i-get-a-steam-controller-working are saying it should work on 15.10
[13:29] <cm-t> note: I installed 15.10 on not formated partition with 14.04.3 LTS (not the one where I tested the steam controller)
[13:35] <ioria> cm-t found something that sounds as a workaround ... not  a solution
[13:36] <trollolol> "E: The value 'vivid' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources"
[13:37] <trollolol> I always get this error after upgrade lol
[13:37] <cm-t> ioria: ok
[13:37] <trollolol> This is for Synaptic
[13:37] <trollolol> Anyone remember where the setting is to fix it lol?
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> trollolol  drop the 'lol'
[13:37] <Twirl> Hi, i changed the cable of my monitor and now ubuntu doesnt recognize it??
[13:38] <MonkeyDust> trollolol  paste the output of   sudo apt-update
[13:38] <Twirl> it displays the image but it shows up as "Unknown display" wtf??
[13:38] <ioria> cm-t you should create a  new rule : /lib/udev/rules.d/99-steam-controller-perms.rules
[13:38] <cm-t> ioria: as seen on the askubuntu link above ↑ ?
[13:39] <TJ-> Twirl: that means the cable is broken; it isn't providing the DDC connection so the GPU driver cannot get the EDID info
[13:39] <ioria> cm-t inside it :  SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTRS{idVendor}=="28de", MODE="0666"        and  KERNEL=="hidraw*", SUBSYSTEM=="hidraw", ATTRS{idVendor}=="2833", MODE="0666"
[13:39] <cm-t> i see
[13:39] <Twirl> TJ-: the cable is new and it renders the image fine
[13:39] <Twirl> TJ-: is there anything i can do? i just spent 5 euro in this shit!!
[13:40] <ioria> cm-t  the  rule isdifferent
[13:40] <TJ-> Twirl: So? you already said the monitor isn't recognised. That means no EDID info from the monitor, which is fetched over the DDC link (assuming we're talking about VGA or DVI-I (analog connections)
[13:40] <ioria> cm-t  then sudo chmod 666 /dev/uinput
[13:40] <trollolol> It's okay I fixed it :D
[13:40] <TJ-> Twirl: double-check in /var/log/Xorg.0.log - you'll probably see a message there about the EDID info either corrupt or unavailable
[13:41] <trollolol> But yeah i had to go through my source.list.d directory :D
[13:41] <ioria> cm-t  and to make all stable you should  install python3-autopilot, that  is  a very   big package
[13:41] <ioria> cm-t  note  that  i'm just reading a web page :P
[13:42] <Twirl> TJ-: no it doesnt say anything of that, man this cable is 100% new i just took it off the package, it is very good quality too and the image renders just fine
[13:42] <TJ-> Twirl: Is it VGA, if not, what is it?
[13:42] <Twirl> TJ-: yes its VGA
[13:42] <TJ-> Twirl: "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[13:42] <Twirl> TJ-: im looking at it, no errors
[13:43] <Twirl> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=yVKMpcTg
[13:43] <demonlove> hello i  have downloaded sublime in zip format and unzip it but dont know how to run it by cmd line/
[13:43] <TJ-> Twirl: that's not a complete log-file, can you pastebin the entire file
[13:44] <demonlove> evertime i have to go to that unzip folder the open sublime file to get it open, i  want to run it by cmd line..
[13:45] <TJ-> demonlove: presumably you 'unzip' the archive to some directory, and the executable is inside that directory?
[13:45] <Twirl> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=VrpcrJPm
[13:45] <cm-t> ioria: added the rule, chmod, the python3-autopilot was already installed, do i need to reboot system, or just steam, or?
[13:46] <ioria> cm-t  reboot
[13:46] <cm-t> ioria: ok, see you soon :)
[13:47] <demonlove> TJ- just take an example if i  want to open geany i  go  to terminal and write geany and it got open same way why didn.t sublimw works!!
[13:47] <Twirl> TJ-: see anything weird?
[13:47] <TJ-> Twirl: OK, so that tells us there are 2 active outputs,  LVDS1 (the laptop display) and HDMI1 (1920x1200)
[13:47] <TJ-> Twirl: Are you trying to add a 3rd display?
[13:48] <Twirl> TJ-: yea i have two external monitors the laptop screen isnt being used
[13:48] <Twirl> TJ-: i had to change the cable of one of them because it was a bad cable and it was looking blurry
[13:48] <Obelus> demonlove, because geany is in your path, but Sublime is not
[13:48] <demonlove> how to add sublime in path
[13:48] <TJ-> Twirl: I doubt that will work; I know of no IGP that can drive 3 heads simultaneously; 2 is usually the limit
[13:48] <Twirl> TJ-: so i bought a new one and it looks fine but it doesnt detect the display so i cant change the freaking resolution
[13:49] <Twirl> TJ-: ????? dude i have this working fine witha nother cable wtf are u talking about
[13:49] <demonlove> Obelus:
[13:49] <cm-t> ioria: did not work :(
[13:49] <TJ-> Twirl: The log shows some EDID for SEC, with 1366x768 resolution
[13:49] <ioria> cm-t  oh... deeply sorry
[13:50] <Obelus> if you open a terminal and go into the directory that the sublime executable is in, you can type export PATH=`pwd`;$PATH
[13:50] <Twirl> TJ-: the notebook screen isnt being used its turned off man
[13:50] <Obelus> demonlove, that would do it temporarily; you'd want to add it to your path in your bash profile to make it permanent.
[13:51] <TJ-> Twirl: that's what I said; almost all GPUs will only drive a maximum of 2 'heads' (ouptuts) at once. They might have 5 outputs but only 2 can be active at the same time.
[13:51] <Twirl> TJ-: im only using 2 monitors man
[13:51] <TJ-> Twirl: Is the VGA1 monitor make "SEC" ? if so, that reports "[    71.877] (II) intel(0): EDID vendor "SEC", prod id 14145"
[13:51] <demonlove> how to add it in bash file
[13:52] <demonlove> cant i  do everything in one cmd , if yes give me that cmd
[13:52] <Twirl> TJ-: well the EDID with the other cable is probably showing the right one
[13:52] <TJ-> Twirl: the monitor reports it is able to do "[    71.877] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1366x768"x0.0   72.33  1366 1414 1446 1526  768 770 775 790 -hsync -vsync (47.4 kHz eP)"  but is then configured to use "[    72.412] (II) intel(0): switch to mode<EMAIL_ADDRESS>on VGA1 using pipe 1, position (1920, 0), rotation normal, reflection none"
[13:52] <TJ-> Twirl: So it looks the cause is the driver isn't choosing the only mode the monitor offers; which would explain weird display
[13:52] <ioria> cm-t  did you  replace ATTRS{idVendor} with your  own  ?
[13:53] <Obelus> demonlove, what directory is the Sublime executable in?
[13:53] <Twirl> TJ-: i think its because this cable is shit tbh
[13:53] <TJ-> Twirl: if VGA1 is currently connected can you "pastebinit <( xrandr -q )"
[13:53] <Twirl> but its fucking annoying because i just bought it
[13:53] <demonlove> ?
[13:54] <demonlove> i have put in adir i have made do i need to cut it and padte it in bash folder
[13:54] <Twirl> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=T3iJidH8
[13:54] <Obelus> demonlove, where did you extract Sublime to?
[13:54] <demonlove> in a dir i  have made name new
[13:55] <Twirl> this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1675503 says its because of the cable
[13:55] <demonlove> previously it was in download folder
[13:55] <cm-t> ioria: weird, the rule file is emty, I usualy use vm, but used nano, I think I miss save the file X)
[13:55] <Obelus> I need to know the full path to where it is to help you.
[13:55] <cm-t> ioria: may you regive me the content please ?
[13:56] <cm-t> vim*
[13:56] <demonlove> m giving you
[13:56] <TJ-> Twirl: OK, so the EDID 'SEC' info comes from the LVDS1. There's none from VGA1 and therefore the only modes available are the industry standard VESA modes for VGA/SVGA/XGA.  If you have a multimeter you could test continuity on the DDC (SDA, pin 12) of the VGA cable
[13:58] <TJ-> Twirl: see for a pin-out diagram: http://pinouts.ru/Video/VGAVesaDdc_pinout.shtml
[13:59] <Twirl> TJ-: no i dont have a multimeter man
[13:59] <TJ-> Twirl: use the good cable then
[13:59] <Obelus> demonlove: is the executable you open for Sublime directly in that folder?
[13:59] <demonlove> yes
[14:00] <demonlove> sublime_text
[14:00] <Twirl> it wasnt good it was crap it looked all blurry so i had to change it, tried anther one and it looked good but i had trouble connecting it so i decided to buy a new one TJ- and this new one cost me 5€
[14:01] <MonkeyDust> Twirl  what was your initial question?
[14:01] <Obelus> demonlove, you can try typing the following: ln -s ~/h_rank/Sublime\ Text\ 2/sublime_text /usr/bin/sublime
[14:01] <TJ-> Twirl: is the cable particularly long? You seem to have a bad pick of VGA cables there! The only time I've really seen bad signalling on VGA is with KVMs
[14:01] <Obelus> That should put a link called 'sublime' in your /usr/bin folder so you can just type 'sublime' to open it.
[14:01] <Twirl> MonkeyDust: changed my cable and ubuntu desnt recognize the display so it shows up as unknown device
[14:02] <Twirl> TJ-: no its 1.5m
[14:02] <TJ-> Twirl: have you checked the pins in the connectors to ensure one or more arent' bent out of place ? I've seen that happen with brand new cables
[14:03] <Twirl> TJ-: no the cable is factory new
[14:03] <demonlove> in root folder?
[14:03] <Twirl> it also looks really good not all blurry like the one i had replaced it
[14:03] <TJ-> Twirl: Doesn't matter how new; pins can get bent before, or even the first time they are plugged in. It's always the first thing I check when DDC isn't working
[14:03] <demonlove> i  have run it in root folder it got run with no error!!
[14:04] <Obelus> demonlove, you should now be able to type 'sublime' into your terminal to start it
[14:04] <Obelus> demonlove, give it a try.
[14:04] <demonlove> not happening!!
[14:04] <demonlove> says command not found?
[14:04] <Twirl> TJ-: nope the pins are good, im going to ask for a refound but its freaking stupid i had to walk 10 blocks to get this crap and it was sealed and i'm worried the lady wont give me my 5€ back
[14:04] <Twirl> or 3 hours of my life
[14:07] <Obelus> demonlove, what do you get when you type ls /usr/bin/sublime
[14:07] <demonlove> Obelus??
[14:07] <demonlove> cannot access , permission denied
[14:08] <demonlove> but your cmd run successful in root folder
[14:08] <atralheaven_> Hello, how can I replace space character " " with underline character "_" in name of all files in a directory?
[14:08] <Obelus> demonlove, are you getting a permission denied error typing 'ls /usr/bin/sublime'
[14:09] <shamsky> sed -i "s//_/g" *
[14:09] <demonlove> yes
[14:09] <demonlove> ls: cannot access /usr/bin/sublime: Permission denied
[14:09] <demonlove> this is the error
[14:10] <Obelus> demonlove, try 'ls -l /usr/bin/ | grep sublime'
[14:10] <atralheaven_> shamsky: how can I mix it with mv command?
[14:11] <demonlove> it give some list and its timmi9ng
[14:11] <ioria> cm-t, http://steamcommunity.com/app/353370/discussions/0/490123197945710268/#c490123197945767207
[14:12] <TJ-> atralheaven_: see "man rename"
[14:12] <shamsky> sed -i "s//_/g" * ; mv  file file2
[14:12] <Obelus> demonlove, Can you show me? It shouldn't have too much in the list because of the grep.
[14:13] <demonlove> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root          40 Oct 25 19:33 sublime -> /root/h_rank/Sublime Text 2/sublime_text
[14:13] <demonlove> this is exactly what i  got!!
[14:13] <atralheaven_> TJ-: I didn't know we have rename command! I always used mv. thatnks
[14:15] <BernhardPosselt1> hi i was wondering if php5 (5.5.9+dfsg-1ubuntu4.13) is equal to 5.5.23
[14:15] <Obelus> demonlove, is sublime in /root/h_rank/... or in your actual user folder?
[14:16] <TJ-> BernhardPosselt1: 5.5.9 is the upstream version of 5.5.9+dfsg-1ubuntu4.13
[14:16] <Twirl> TJ-: just switched back to the working cable and it recognizes it just fine
[14:16] <Twirl> TJ-: gonna try to get a refound, fml
[14:16] <TJ-> Obelus: looks like demonlove accidentally extracted the Sublime archive using sudo
[14:16] <BernhardPosselt1> i need this fix https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=64938
[14:17] <demonlove> Obelus  :?
[14:18] <Obelus> TJ-, I was thinking that the ln command was run in sudo, but Sublime is extracted in the actual folder.
[14:20] <TJ-> Obelus: yeah, which explains why trying to 'ls' the symlink got permission denied
[14:21] <TJ-> BernhardPosselt1: There isn't a later version available for 14.04; you might want to report a bug against php5 package and 'ping' one the package maintainers to see if they'll do an SRU (stable release update) to include the patch
[14:21] <Obelus> demonlove, can you type 'rm /usr/bin/sublime'
[14:21] <Obelus> demonlove, and then open a new terminal window that's not running sudo or running as root, then re-run the ln -s command I gave you earlier
[14:21] <TJ-> Obelus: "sudo rm /usr/bin/sublime" (/usr/bin/ should need UID 0 to remove any of its contents)
[14:22] <Obelus> I was under the impression that the terminal was already running as root based on the where ln -s linked to
[14:22] <TJ-> Obelus: Oh, maybe so. I assumed not due to the 'permission denied' message earlier
[14:23] <demonlove> ln -s ~/h_rank/Sublime\ Text\ 2/sublime_text /usr/bin/sublime
[14:23] <TJ-> BernhardPosselt1: 15.04 and 15.10 have php5 5.6.x packages, not much help but that would make an SRU justification easier - I suspect though the maintainers would only want to backport the specific patch.
[14:24] <demonlove> : Permission denied
[14:24] <Obelus> ... /usr/bin isn't user writable, is it?
[14:24] <BernhardPosselt1> TJ-: the issue here is https://github.com/zendframework/ZendXml/commit/79f478fa2af85ce1fc18ac132dee5aa714c3b532
[14:24] <demonlove> Obelus: i  have run rm cmd then rerun , it gave permission denied error again:
[14:24] <BernhardPosselt1> im basically wondering if i can require the users of my php app to have a patched version
[14:25] <TJ-> BernhardPosselt1: Yes, I read up on it, but to get it backported to Ubuntu 14.04 you'll need to persuade the package maintainers
[14:25] <BernhardPosselt1> TJ-: debian is not involved right?
[14:26] <TJ-> BernhardPosselt1: Post-release, no, Ubuntu carries patches separately. In the in-development work-in-progress we try to sync from debian as late as posisble to avoid massive deltas between Debian and Ubuntu
[14:26] <Obelus> demonlove, so the permission denied is on the ln -s, or on rm?
[14:26] <demonlove> ln -s
[14:27] <BernhardPosselt1> TJ-: do you know the maintainers
[14:27] <BernhardPosselt1> do you think they want to backport that fix?
[14:28] <Obelus> demonlove, what is your home folder? (if you don't know, in a terminal, type 'cd ~; pwd')
[14:29] <TJ-> BernhardPosselt1: you'll have to ask them. As I said, create a bug report, give all the info, link to the upstream bug, the patch, make a justification for why Ubuntu should have it (I think myself its pretty clear we should have it) and then contact the maintainers via their mailing list initially
[14:29] <demonlove> its /home/ankit
[14:29] <demonlove> ignore its
[14:30] <demonlove>     /home/ankit
[14:30] <Obelus> demonlove, so if you type /home/ankit/h_rank/Sublime\ Text\ 2/sublime_text
[14:30] <Obelus> demonlove, does it start sublime?
[14:30] <BernhardPosselt1> TJ-: thanks!
[14:30] <TJ-> Obelus: demonlove It might be better to use the WebUpd8 team's PPA to install it; it will be done properly then. See https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/ubuntu/sublime-text-2
[14:31] <Obelus> TJ-, demonlove, that would definitely be better, I wasn't aware there was a PPA for it.
[14:31] <demonlove> Obelus: yes it got opened
[14:31] <TJ-> Obelus: me neither until I searched; its so popular it would be unusual for there not to be a PPA :)
[14:32] <Obelus> demonlove, okay, at this point you can do 'sudo ln -s /home/ankit/h_rank/Sublime\ Text\ 2/sublime_text /usr/bin/sublime'
[14:32] <Obelus> demonlove, that should make the link, but honestly, the PPA that TJ- linked would be better and keep updated for you.
[14:32] <Obelus> TJ- I haven't actually used Ubuntu in ages, I'm just working on normal Linux stuff at this point :p
[14:33] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: good morning, i am going to make a windows 7 live cd to check and see if the wireless will still work on windows.  get back to you later today :)
[14:33] <Obelus> as in, I'm basing my answers on basic Linux stuff, but I'm using OS X, tbh.
[14:34] <demonlove> Obelus: how does it make link it only give > sign
[14:35] <Obelus> demonlove, I have honestly no idea what you mean. I'd recommend just using the PPA at this point.
[14:36] <demonlove> ok
[14:36] <Obelus> demonlove, do sudo rm /usr/bin/sublime
[14:36] <TJ-> demonlove: ">" means you've got unmatched quote marks and its gone into a new line
[14:37]  * trollolol is away: brb in shower
[14:37] <TJ-> demonlove: Try typing a single quote, or double-quote, and pressing Enter again
[14:38] <demonlove> anway m now looking for ppa
[14:39] <Obelus> demonlove: to add the PPA, type 'sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/sublime-text-2'
[14:39] <demonlove> but there it is not given how to get sublime
[14:40] <Obelus> demonlove, once you've done that, you can type 'sudo apt-get update', then 'sudo apt-get install sublime-text'
[14:41] <demonlove> Building dependency tree
[14:41] <demonlove> Reading state information... Done
[14:41] <demonlove> E: Unable to locate package sublime_text
[14:41] <sha9419> Can someone please elaborate on how to install codec packages offline?
[14:41] <demonlove> how to locate it?
[14:42] <Obelus> demonlove, did the PPA successfully add?
[14:42] <sha9419> Bdw i've downloaded the packages but dont know where to place it or what command line to run
[14:42] <demonlove> yes
[14:42] <Obelus> did you run apt-get update ?
[14:43] <demonlove> if i  want jruby i diretly type sudo apt-get jruby
[14:43] <demonlove> and it got sone but this tome it its giving path error for sublime case
[14:43] <Obelus> demonlove, did you type 'sudo apt-get update' ?
[14:44] <demonlove> m its getting update
[14:44] <Obelus> demonlove, once that's done, you should be able to do 'sudo apt-get install sublime-text'
[14:44] <Obelus> demonlove, after you add a new PPA/repository, you need to run apt-get update to let apt-get get a list of packages on the new server.
[14:45] <auronandace> demonlove: also an underscore (_) is not the same as a hyphen (-)
[14:45] <demonlove> now i doubt on myself about adding PPA!!
[14:45] <sha9419> Can someone please elaborate on how to install codec packages offline?
[14:46] <demonlove> same error again!!
[14:46] <Obelus> auronandace, ugh, I'm clearly far too tired missing this.
[14:46] <Obelus> demonlove, can you paste the command you ran?
[14:46] <SchrodingersScat> !dpkg | sha9419
[14:46] <demonlove>  apt-get update
[14:47] <demonlove> then  sudo apt-get install sublime_text
[14:47] <Obelus> it's sublime-text, not sublime_text
[14:47] <SchrodingersScat> sha9419: dpkg -i nameofpackage.deb should install
[14:47] <BernhardPosselt1> demonlove: consider checking out atom
[14:47] <demonlove> sudo apt-get install sublime-text
[14:48] <demonlove> Reading package lists... Done
[14:48] <demonlove> Building dependency tree
[14:48] <demonlove> Reading state information... Done
[14:48] <demonlove> E: Unable to locate package sublime-text
[14:48] <sha9419> ubottu: yeah, but where do i place these packages and what command should i run?
[14:49] <SchrodingersScat> sha9419: that's up to you, and I just told you, dpkg -i followed by the package
[14:49] <Obelus> TJ-, demonlove, if everything completed as it was meant to (PPA install, apt-get update completing without errors), then I just don't know at this point. It's far too late, and I'm tagging out. Night.
[14:49] <demonlove> night
[14:49] <BernhardPosselt1> TJ-: opened an issue and ticked the security checkbox, thanks for your help
[14:50] <demonlove> '_'
[14:50] <BernhardPosselt1> demonlove: https://codeforgeek.com/2014/09/install-atom-editor-ubuntu-14-04/ ;D
[14:51] <sha9419> SchrodingersScat: thanks pal. Let me try that and get back to you
[14:53] <demonlove> what does atom does?
[14:53] <demonlove> BernhardPosselt1?
[14:59] <BernhardPosselt1> demonlove: basically open source sublime
[14:59] <BernhardPosselt1> from github
[14:59] <BernhardPosselt1> ive migrated from sublime to atom
[14:59] <SchrodingersScat> BernhardPosselt1: thank you for notes, but when I paste in text it doesn't seem to trigger a save
[14:59] <BernhardPosselt1> works just as well
[15:00] <_gnom_> Could not access KVM kernel module: No such file or directory
[15:00] <_gnom_> help !!!
[15:00] <_gnom_> ubuntu 15
[15:01] <Ben64> !details | _gnom_
[15:01] <qknight> hey. i have a PPC64 bit endian platform here and https://www.debian.org/ports/ <- looking at these ports i conclude it is not supported, is that correct?
[15:01] <Ben64> qknight: you should ask #debian about that
[15:01] <qknight> oh, of course, sorry
[15:03] <_gnom_> qemu work - kvm not
[15:05] <_gnom_> Could not access KVM kernel module: No such file or directory
[15:05] <_gnom_> failed to initialize KVM: No such file or directory
[15:08] <_gnom_> modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'kvm_intel': Operation not supported
[15:08] <_gnom_> modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'kvm_amd': Operation not supported
[15:10] <Pazooza> Can a virus or trojan move from a VM to the host machine?
[15:11] <cfhowlett> Pazooza, unlikely.  not impossible.
[15:11] <cfhowlett> make that highly unlikely.
[15:12] <auronandace> Pazooza: transferring files between host and guest OS regularly would be a potential infection vector
[15:14] <kjoe666> cp?
[15:14] <Pazooza> Mounting and unmounting usb devices of the host is a problem then.
[15:16]  * trollolol is back (gone 00:39:16)
[15:17] <cristobal> Virtual box error on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS X64 http://pastebin.com/mVVuRtmw   anyone ? :S
[15:18] <auronandace> cristobal: sudo modprobe vboxdrv
[15:19] <auronandace> cristobal: you should also install the dkms package as that message suggests
[15:19] <cristobal> auronandace, modprobe: FATAL: Module vboxdrv not found.
[15:19] <cristobal> i did
[15:19] <auronandace> cristobal: howdid you install vbox?
[15:19] <cristobal> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1885936&page=10&s=df24561bd485d7113a09d744a38f4961   i did installed first by ubuntu software center
[15:19] <cristobal> a uninstall and re-install might help?
[15:20] <fuzuy> tets
[15:20] <fuzuy> hackme
[15:21] <fuzuy> hello
[15:21] <cfhowlett> fuzuy, no.  play somewhere else
[15:21] <auronandace> cristobal: cat /etc/issue; uname -a
[15:21] <fuzuy> ubuntu users here ?
[15:21] <amitd26> hi
[15:21] <amitd26> yup
[15:21] <cfhowlett> fuzuy, this is ubuntu support.
[15:22] <cristobal> auronandace, Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS \n \l         Linux cristobal-G73Jh 3.19.0-31-generic #36~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Thu Oct 8 10:21:08 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[15:22] <DJones> fuzuy: Its the main Ubuntu support channel, so  yes, if you have a support question, please feel free to ask it, but bear in mind this isn't a chat channel
[15:22] <amitd26> ok
[15:22] <cristobal> funny i just fresh install from 15.10 since amd drivers do not work there but everything else rocks
[15:22] <fuzuy> how i enable unity tweak ?
[15:23] <amitd26> did you apt-get install it
[15:23] <fuzuy> i did it but the app showing only run unity...
[15:25] <Saturn1> Testing
[15:25] <Saturn1> Awesome
[15:25] <cfhowlett> !test | Saturn1
[15:25] <Gentoolman> I havr not jack detection in pulse audio, how to fix?
[15:29] <jl> hi
[15:30] <Gentoolman> Hi
[15:31] <jl> i installed ubuntu gnome 15.10 and if i loggin and type the correct password gnome shell not open
[15:31] <jl> i create other user
[15:31] <mcphail> ioria: btw, that lxinput package fixed my mouse problems yesterday. Thanks for the suggestion!
[15:31] <g105b> I want to distribute my own version of Ubuntu within my business, and have it on Github so others can improve it. Mainly just package alterations and slight configuration tweaks here and there. One thing I really want to know is how to handle when new versions of Ubuntu come out... Any points of advice will be appreciated.
[15:31] <jl> and this user open correctly gnome shell
[15:31] <ioria> mcphail, glad to hear  that... cheers
[15:32] <Gentoolman> Contribute distroa like debian, arch, gentoo, not one more ubuntu
[15:33] <iamrohit7> how can i make ubuntu less power hungry?
[15:33] <Gentoolman> g105b: first install gentoo or arch and get deeper to linux. Than it wipp be easy
[15:33] <g105b> Gentoolman: I thought IRC was better than this these days.
[15:34] <Gentoolman> It better always
[15:34] <iamrohit7> g105b: what was the question?
[15:34] <g105b> iamrohit7: I am looking for some advice on modifying Ubuntu's default packages and configuration for distribution within my business.
[15:35] <iamrohit7> Gentoolman: you can't suggest someone to use Gentoo on a ubuntu support even if your name is Gentoolman.
[15:35] <g105b> iamrohit7: main question is how to use Github to allow others to modify a tweak, and how to automatically handle new releases of official Ubuntu
[15:35] <cfhowlett> !uck | g105b
[15:35] <g105b> cfhowlett: interesting, thanks
[15:36] <iamrohit7> g105b: did you see this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[15:36] <cfhowlett> g105b, happy2help!
[15:36] <c0fe> anyone know where i can download version 13.10 netinstall?
[15:36] <cfhowlett> c0fe, bad idea.
[15:37] <k1l> c0fe: its dead a long time. why do you want that exact version?
[15:37] <c0fe> k1l: required for plex home theater, which isn't a problem since it won't have an internet connection
[15:38] <iamrohit7> how can i make my ubuntu install less resource hungry?
[15:38] <k1l> c0fe: that should work with recent ubuntu version, right?
[15:38] <c0fe> k1l: tried, has multiple packages that won't install so i have to use that version
[15:38] <g105b> cfhowlett: can I configure a customised ubuntu with uck, then put the config in a git repo or something like that?
[15:38] <k1l> iamrohit7: use desktop, processes, apps that use less resources. in most times that means using less eyecandy and blingbling
[15:39] <k1l> c0fe: i doubt that
[15:39] <cfhowlett> g105b, as I understand the process, yes
[15:39] <c0fe> k1l: aside from calling me a liar can you give me a link where to download this?
[15:39] <k1l> c0fe: no, since its not supported anymore.
[15:39] <k1l> c0fe: there might be some old archives, but none by ubuntu.
[15:40] <k1l> c0fe: i suggest you try a 12.04 or a 14.04 LTS install and work out what exact issues are there
[15:40] <c0fe> k1l: i already told you, you called me a liar
[15:41] <ioria> c0fe, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall
[15:41] <Kteckca> Hello
[15:42] <ioria> c0fe, maybe  not...
[15:42] <c0fe> ioria: nope doesn't work
[15:42] <ioria> c0fe, yep
[15:44] <c0fe> ioria: i found it
[15:44] <ioria> c0fe, good... you know is  EOF, right ?
[15:45] <c0fe> k1l: this may be hard to believe for you, but calling people liars isn't support or helpful
[15:45] <k1l> c0fe: stop it!
[15:45] <c0fe> ioria: i am aware but plex tv is problematic with any other recent versions
[15:45] <k1l> c0fe: you are just making a drama since you cant stand that your idea is a bad idea in first place.
[15:46] <k1l> so either you show some detailed errors you get on a supported ubuntu release and we can try to solve that or you can leave here and making a drama
[15:46] <auronandace> c0fe: could you outline the issues you are experiencing trying to install on a recent version?
[15:48] <c0fe> k1l: you should crawl out of your basement and interact with people more. you will learn how that calling people names, liars, etc isn't really good. one additional thing is that you think i would go through the trouble of hunting down an older version of ubuntu rather download the most recent version without trying the newest version first then you really need to learn how to think
[15:49] <cfhowlett> NO ONE EVER called you a liar c0fe!
[15:49] <c0fe> auronandace: various packages just wouldn't install, hold on i will post a list of them
[15:50] <c0fe> cfhowlett: k1l did
[15:50] <c0fe> auronandace: http://dpaste.com/029PYKA