[07:11] <Madpilot> eyequeue: no idea - what happens when you right click on the panel and re-install the switcher?
[07:11] <renedox> MrFarts: should be ssh <username>@<ip> -X
[07:11] <MrFarts> renedox, let me try ..
[07:11] <RedRose> i know you can do &... but that it quits after i exit
[07:12] <Quequeg> RedRose, 'nohup', or screen.
[07:12] <joft> since I upgraded to breezy my sound isn't working
[07:12] <eyequeue> Madpilot:  now i have two switchers, each with only 1 in it
[07:12] <Zedugh> eyequeue, if you're talking about Ctrl-Alt-Left (or Right) its in X not gnome, try Ctrl-Alt-F2
[07:12] <RedRose> Quequeg:What is screen?
[07:13] <foxiness> gtkblog not work on my ubuntu from 5.04 ,and i dont know why?!
[07:13] <foxiness> sorry blogtk
[07:13] <eyequeue> Zedugh:  no, iu'm trying to go (still within x) to alternate virtual desktops, but they stopped existing
[07:14] <MrFarts> renedox, doesn't work
[07:14] <Quequeg> RedRose, screen allows you to create a kind of virtual terminal, in which you can run ncurses programs, etc., but you can detach from the screen and log-out, whatever, without losing/terminating that session
[07:14] <Madpilot> eyequeue: right click on the switcher itself, and up the # of desktops
[07:14] <renedox> MrFarts: is it enabled in your ssh config file?
[07:14] <foxiness> blogtk not work on my ubuntu from 5.04 ,and i dont know why?! and this output "IOError: unsupported XML-RPC protocol" how-can i fix this?
[07:14] <MrFarts> renedox, on the server ?
[07:15] <eyequeue> Madpilot:  i knew it was somewhere!  couldn't find it.  thanks
[07:16] <MrFarts> renedox, ok, works now
[07:16] <MrFarts> renedox, thanks
[07:16] <mrkoje> how efficient is emulating windows programs when you need to use them?
[07:16] <mrkoje> like adobe or macromedia?
[07:16] <eyequeue> okay, now this is  that kb package, i know it.  how to i get repeating keys back?  hold down backspace xchat and i only get one backspace
[07:16] <Madpilot> eyequeue: again, I've still got repeating keys here... ddddddddddddddddddddddddd
[07:16] <renedox> MrFarts: :)
[07:16] <Madpilot> ;)
[07:16] <foxiness> mono get updated to 1.1.10 and monodevlop to 0.8 ,can i find this on ubuntu ? or there easy way to get this package install ?
[07:17] <eyequeue> "the application gnome-keyboard-properties has quit unexpectedly"
[07:17] <Zedugh> eyequeue, sorry for the non-info
[07:17] <eyequeue> Zedugh:  np
[07:18] <God> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d4972 There are the errors when I try to make melange.
[07:18] <eyequeue> i think i'm going to restart x
[07:18] <eyequeue> or maybe the whole system
[07:19] <Llewxam> can anybody help me with something?
[07:19] <Zedugh> God, yeah, i looked at you're paste, and its a melange problem, not a ubuntu one. The majority of source tarballs i've downloaded wont compile
[07:19] <rubem> does GD library comes when I install php via apt-get?
[07:20] <Zedugh> God: sometimes it's because the author used different versions of libraries, or compiler, etc., but at least 50% its bugs in the code
[07:21] <rubem> ??????????????????????????????
[07:21] <rubem> anyone?
[07:22] <Quequeg> People are sooooo much more likely to help now.
[07:22] <highvoltage> :)
[07:22] <cdubya> Llewxam, just ask
[07:25] <Agamotto> Funny, I thought Pablo Escobar was dead....
[07:26] <Kazuya> lol
[07:26] <Kazuya> mmm
[07:27] <Kazuya> how do i enable framebuffer?
[07:28] <drcode> how I can check linux time zone?
[07:28] <Llewxam> sorry for the delay... out of the blue ubuntu quit recognizing my wifi card. in boot i get a 'could not allocate resource 0 to device... forgot the rest' and i get this error: SIOCGIFFLAGS error: No such device. when i try through the network settings
[07:29] <kubuntu_guy> hi guys
[07:29] <rubem> hi
[07:29] <AMDXP> kubunto hey ther
[07:29] <God> Zedugh:  Sorry, I just barely read your message..How do I fix it?
[07:29] <rubem> anyone use php?
[07:29] <kubuntu_guy> any links that can help me to set up a samba with ldap authen
[07:29] <God> rubem: Me
[07:30] <sss_lr> !samba-ldap
[07:30] <ubotu> sss_lr: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[07:30] <kubuntu_guy> I want to use ldap for my samba authen instead of nis
[07:30] <God> !grrrrandma.
[07:30] <ubotu> God: I give up, what is it?
[07:30] <God> !What is what?
[07:30] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, God
[07:31] <God> ...Wow.
[07:31] <God> I'll figure this whole shabang out tomorrow..
[07:31] <God> later.
[07:31] <gar-> =/
[07:31] <cdubya> Llewxam, so you're trying to get the connection back up from the networking applet?
[07:32] <Zedugh> God, look at the FAQ or post a BUG here: http://melange.sehrsupa.net/phorum/index.html  it's their problem (and yours if you chose). If you fix it, you've debugged their code for them.
[07:32] <crimsun> joft: sorry, I keep being interrupted. Where were we?
[07:32] <gar-> Zedugh: i still dont have luck with the adapter lol
[07:32] <Llewxam> i am trying to get this to recognize the wifi card. wlan0 is not showing in the network applet anymore.
[07:33] <Zedugh> gar-, good luck, my ex-wife has a DWL-G120, not supported by ndiswrapper, and I can't even get it installed in win98.
[07:33] <gar-> i dont want to erase ubuntu =/
[07:33] <gar-> because is RT2500
[07:33] <gar-> ratalk
[07:33] <Llewxam> i ran iwconfig and ifconfig and all the other commands and it shows up.
[07:33] <Llewxam> but it just won't work at all
[07:33] <cdubya> Llewxam, ouch....
[07:34] <cdubya> hang on...
[07:34] <Llewxam> k
[07:34] <Zedugh> gar-, do any other USB devices work ok on your system?
[07:34] <gar-> yeap
[07:34] <gar-> the mouse work great
[07:34] <gar-> i think maybe is something im doing wrong
[07:34] <gar-> no is im doing wrong
[07:34] <dcj028> hi... i'm very new to ubuntu... very cool op system and i'm very impressed so far... can anyone help me install the codecs and/or a good program for digital media? (.mp3 primarily)
[07:35] <gar-> Zedugh: i need to install kdebase and qt3 but seen that syn dont have the pack
[07:35] <gar-> Zedugh: im running 5.04
[07:35] <Agamotto> gar-:  Try installing kubuntu
[07:35] <gar-> Zedugh: try 3 time the syn dont find it
[07:36] <Zedugh> gar-, i cant check it for 5.04, i'm on 5.10
[07:36] <cdubya> Llewxam, not sure if it this is it, but what do you have in the /etc/network/interfaces file?
[07:36] <thunderbolt> dcj028: I like xmms for my music playing needs
[07:36] <gar-> Agamotto: i think is not supported by 5.04
[07:36] <Agamotto> No, I got it while using 5.04....
[07:36] <Zedugh> I like xmms too
[07:36] <n0dl> how do i play a cd in mpg123?
[07:37] <Agamotto> From the main website, if I remember the link properly
[07:37] <gar-> Agamotto: but how downloading it with net update?
[07:37] <Llewxam> one sec
[07:37] <gar-> hmmm
[07:37] <dcj028> thanks thunderbolt
[07:37] <Zedugh> n0dl, if its a regular audio cd (with .WAV files) you don't use mpg123
[07:37] <n0dl> ... well im in command line
[07:37] <Agamotto> gar-:  Have you gone to the website and clicked on Kubuntu icon?
[07:37] <durt> and there are all sorts of gtk2 alternatives to xmms: bmp, bmpx, audacious, (xmms2?)
[07:38] <gar-> checking now
[07:38] <darth_chatri> i'm having problems hibernating my dell laptop from kde
[07:38] <darth_chatri> it works with the gdm hibernate option
[07:38] <n0dl> does anyone know how to play CDs in command line?
[07:38] <im_addicted19> whats your problem with ur laptop??
[07:38] <Zedugh> n0dl, there is a package called cdtool...
[07:39] <n0dl> i c
[07:40] <n0dl> Zedugh: i tired to look for it in synaptic and cant find it
[07:40] <renedox> what repo is azureus in?
[07:40] <Zedugh> n0dl, what version ubuntu r u?
[07:41] <Madpilot> renedox: it's not
[07:41] <Madpilot> !tell renedox about azureus
[07:42] <shelli>  hey
[07:42] <gar-> Agamotto: do u have to download the kubunto????
[07:42] <Ce_ndek> gtttt
[07:43] <Zedugh> n0dl, hoary or breezy or?
[07:43] <n0dl> Zedugh: breezy
[07:43] <Zedugh> n0dl, cdtool is in universe, have you got that enabled?
[07:43] <n0dl> Zedugh: yes i do
[07:44] <Llewxam> whoa...
[07:44] <darth_chatri> im_addicted19: were you asking me?
[07:45] <n0dl> Zedugh: i found it
[07:45] <cdubya> Llewxam,......any luck?
[07:45] <GTroy> is there a installed vnc client?
[07:45] <Llewxam> can i pm ya cdubya?
[07:45] <anavim> where are my application settings stored?
[07:46] <GTroy> errr vnc viewer?
[07:46] <jknife> hey
[07:46] <cdubya> Llewxam, sure
[07:46] <Agamotto> Most are in hidden .whatever files in your /home
[07:46] <chr1snv> Sorry to budd in, anyone know how to uncompress an initrd file so that i can edit the linuxrc inside?
[07:46] <jknife> nope srry
[07:47] <anavim> Agamotto, actually, roughly half of mine are.  do you know where else they might store settings?
[07:47] <Agamotto> anavim:  Possibly in /etc, and /usr
[07:47] <jknife> yall know what a neat OS is?
[07:47] <Agamotto> Amiga
[07:47] <RancidLM> hey all...
[07:48] <jknife> Plan9
[07:48] <anavim> Agamotto, do you know where firefox stores it's bookmarks, and where evolution stores it's email accounts?
[07:48] <Zedugh> chr1snv, gunzip initrd.img.gz (or gunzip initrd.gz), to get image file. you must mount the image on a loop back device, then you can access it.
[07:48] <RancidLM> if i have a single ubuntu .deb file.. how do i install it since its not from a repository?
[07:48] <Agamotto> I thought that Plan 9 was a window manager?
[07:48] <jknife> dpkg -i <name>
[07:48] <Agamotto> RancidLM:  dpkg -i
[07:48] <chr1snv> Zedugh, Thank you
[07:49] <RancidLM> jknife, Agamotto Thanks :)
[07:49] <jknife> np
[07:50] <jknife> dapper is the next version?
[07:50] <Zedugh> jknife, yes
[07:50] <jknife> k
[07:50] <jknife> I KNOW HOW TO USE IT
[07:50] <anavim> I keep losing my email accounts and bookmarks whenever I reinstall ubuntu... my email is intact, though.. in .evolution
[07:51] <jknife> dont reinstall?
[07:51] <moo> is there a way to find out your ram speed in linux? e.g. pc3200 etc
[07:51] <jknife> doesnt memtest tell it?
[07:52] <moo> how long does that take to run? ive never touched it
[07:52] <chr1snv> Zedugh, spoke too soon, it says unknown suffix - - ignored
[07:52] <cdubya> anavim, my bookmarks.html file is in ~/.mozilla/default/whatever_the_default_suddir_is
[07:52] <jknife> as long as you want it to
[07:52] <nickrud> moo, dmidecode tells you more than you want to know; the cpu is towards the top
[07:52] <anavim> it wouldn't be so bad if I didn't have 9 email accounts  :(
[07:52] <nalioth> moo: open a terminal and type "sudo lshw"
[07:53] <chr1snv> Zedugh, i tryed before to rename it to .gz and then change it back to .img after it finished, but the mount command returned errors
[07:53] <Zedugh> chr1snv, what says unknown suffix
[07:53] <Quequeg> anavim, why don't you forward them to one account (and use a filter to direct them to folders if necessary)?
[07:53] <chr1snv> Zedugh, gunzip says unknown suffix
[07:54] <Zedugh> chr1snv, what was the original initrd file name?
[07:54] <nickrud> nalioth, I didn't know my cpu had a size of 800 ;)
[07:54] <nalioth> nickrud: did you run "sudo lshw" ?
[07:54] <chr1snv> Zedugh, it was initrd.img-2.6.12-9-k7
[07:54] <anavim> Quequeg, my email itself is intact, but I don't know how to back up the account info, so if I reinstall I have to recreate all nine accounts
[07:54] <nickrud> nalioth, yeah, that's where I saw it
[07:55] <Llewxam> brb
[07:55] <jknife> why aint they using the nvidia-glx v76.76 driver?
[07:55] <nalioth> nickrud: shows you a lot of stuff, doesnt it?
[07:55] <nickrud> same stuff, different format
[07:55] <moo> nalioth, nickrud those programs dont tell you the clock speed of your ram
[07:55] <Zedugh> chr1snv, thats an uncompressed initrd image, just mount the original file on a loopback device
[07:55] <nickrud> moo, mine did; it said it was running at 800, and was capable of 1200
[07:55] <moo> hm
[07:55] <nalioth> moo: if it doesnt, then im not sure what else to run
[07:56] <moo>      *-memory
[07:56] <moo>           description: System memory
[07:56] <moo>           physical id: 1
[07:56] <moo>           size: 767MB
[07:56] <nalioth> moo: please dont paste in here
[07:56] <moo> cool app tho, I've never heard of it, is it in other distros?
[07:56] <nalioth> moo: is it not in all distros, no
[07:57] <moo> knoppix?
[07:57] <jknife> moo if you need to paste do it in #freebsd :P
[07:57] <Quequeg> anavim, without trying to pass the buck, I don't know evolution.  Try asking a chan specific to the evolution novell folks.
[07:57] <nickrud> lol
[07:57] <moo> k, can do :p
[07:57] <nalioth> moo: i'm not sure, i dont use other distros
[07:57] <nalioth> moo: i do help folks that use other distros, and by helping, i've found it's not there
[07:58] <jknife> ive used MANY distros... but i know my hw so i never messed w/that stuff
[07:58] <chr1snv> Zedugh, would you happen to know the filesystem type?
[07:58] <Zedugh> chr1snv, i'm surprised its asking you, but probably ext2
[07:58] <nalioth> moo: in your terminal, type "sudo lshw > ~/myhardware"
[07:59] <nalioth> moo: that'll give you a text file in your home dir you can read at your leisure
[07:59] <gp> Terminal command to search for files named ... ?
[07:59] <moo> yeah well i can scroll as well, i read all of it
[07:59] <moo> find / -name blahblah
[07:59] <moo> i think
[07:59] <durt> or locate
[08:00] <moo> or sudo updatedb && locate blah
[08:00] <nickrud> anavim, the accounts are kept in gconf; /apps/evolution/mail
[08:00] <jknife> i like slocate
[08:00] <DeMoNSeEd> hello
[08:00] <chr1snv> Zedugh, :/ no such luck i tryed vfat ext2 ext3 ntfs and hfs
[08:00] <jknife> good bye
[08:00] <gar-> no luck
[08:00] <anavim> nickrud, thx
[08:01] <DeMoNSeEd> thanks jknife
[08:01] <jknife> ?
[08:01] <gp> Oke, find did not find it... menudefs.hook is stored where?
[08:01] <DeMoNSeEd> lol
[08:01] <Slaj_R> Question ... I have installed Lilypond v.2.2.6.  I want to upgrade to 2.6, the latest stable version, but apt-get doesn't seem to be able to find the latest version.
[08:02] <jknife> updated your sources?
[08:02] <DeMoNSeEd> i got my breezy cd.....put it on, but i find it very slow, is there something wrong with breezy that it so much slower
[08:02] <durt> gp "locate menudefs.hook"
[08:02] <jknife> DeMoNSeEd, live? or install?
[08:02] <crimsun> Slaj_R: it might be in breezy-backports. We have 2.6.3-9 in Dapper.
[08:02] <Slaj_R> jknife:  Well, I did $apt-get update
[08:02] <gayatri> py tolek
[08:03] <jknife> Slaj_R, what version of Ubuntu are you running
[08:03] <jknife> DeMoNSeEd, the live cd is a HELL of a LOT slower then it installed
[08:03] <jknife> im running it on a 333mHz 256mb ram pc w/o any problems
[08:04] <Slaj_R> breezy
[08:04] <gayatri> jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
[08:04] <DeMoNSeEd> nope i installed as usual actually i've never ran the live on any version
[08:04] <nickrud> Slaj_R, the version won't change in breezy. It may show up in backports, but you'll probably need to find another repository until dapper releases.
[08:04] <Steil> heh
[08:04] <Agamotto> Time for sleep, I think...
[08:04] <Steil> it runs fine on my 133mhz
[08:04] <Steil> though i can't use metacity
[08:04] <Slaj_R> Is there an alternate way to upgrade?  Manually, perhaps?
[08:04] <jknife> Slaj_R, they may not have updated it yet
[08:04] <DeMoNSeEd> if i put hoary on it runs well
[08:05] <DeMoNSeEd> upgrade, same deal slow
[08:05] <durt> how much ram steil?
[08:05] <Steil> 48mb
[08:05] <jknife> Steil, im using gnome, Firefox, XChat, and the updater w/o any slow downs
[08:05] <durt> wow
[08:05] <Steil> heh I don't use my p133 anymore though
[08:05] <nickrud> gnome?
[08:05] <Slaj_R> jknife: so no upgrade for me until then, eh?
[08:05] <Steil> not worth the power it consumes
[08:06] <gp> Is there anyway to embed a command within a command?  Like 'editor (locate menudefs.hook)' ?
[08:06] <jknife> nickrud, you dont know that gnome is?
[08:06] <jknife> :|
[08:06] <nickrud> nosilver4u, gnome on a 133
[08:06] <DeMoNSeEd> k thanks anyways..... hopefully Dapper will be fast again
[08:06] <Steil> gp: gedit `locate blah`
[08:07] <zdennis> hey all...having issues with gdmsetup (i have never been able to run it)..... it says GDM Configuration File not found
[08:07] <Zedugh> chr1snv, i tried myself, don't know. i've mounted initrd images from other distros (knoppix, slackware) this way
[08:08] <zdennis> where does it look bydefault? It exists in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf
[08:08] <nickrud> I'll have some cats to give away soon, I fear
[08:09] <jknife> i  have one
[08:09] <jknife> but shes no lil pussy
[08:10] <chr1snv> Zedugh, perhaps i am typing something wrong? (sudo mount initrd.img-2.6.12-9-k7 /mnt/initrd/ -o loop) , oh now it seems it throws a "connot find a free loop device" error
[08:10] <chr1snv> Zedugh, i am in a live cd boot could this be a problem?
[08:12] <Quequeg> chr1snv, maybe you need to 'umount' prior mount attempts?  Does "cat /etc/mtab" tell you what those other mounted loop devs are?
[08:12] <jknife> wow... ubuntu must be for pirates so much p2p software
[08:12] <tritium> jknife, no, we don't condone pirating
[08:12] <vegos> can anyone suggest a wma audio package?
[08:13] <DeMoNSeEd> got it
[08:13] <jknife> ?
[08:13] <DeMoNSeEd> does this make sense, i need to disable ipv6 in breezy
[08:13] <jknife> im using it
[08:14] <jknife> are you using the latest kernel?
[08:14] <vegos> bump
[08:14] <DeMoNSeEd> i googled, for an entry saying ipv6 is slowing down breezy by 4 times
[08:14] <jknife> there is a updated kernel newer then the cd
[08:14] <DeMoNSeEd> i was yes
[08:14] <jknife> k
[08:15] <jknife> try it
[08:15] <DeMoNSeEd> disable ipv6 and speed dramatically increases, i'll try it
[08:15] <DeMoNSeEd> brb
[08:15] <chr1snv> Quequeg, nope, i cannot find any loop devices at all in "cat /etc/mtab"
[08:15] <Nikyo> Is there a way to save Ubuntu 5.10 Live Cd settings to USB hard drive or USB thumb drive? Please..
[08:15] <vegos> can someone suggest an wma audio package
[08:15] <wickedpuppy> vegos, whats a wma audio package ?
[08:16] <jknife> Nikyo, yes set the home folder to its dev
[08:16] <vegos> something that will enable me to play my wma files on rhythmbox
[08:16] <jknife> windows media
[08:16] <wickedpuppy> you mean wma player ?
[08:16] <wickedpuppy> !wma
[08:16] <ubotu> methinks restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[08:17] <silwol> good morning
[08:17] <jknife> (you can always search sf.net for one)
[08:17] <Rotan> HELP
[08:17] <Rotan> help help help!!!
[08:17] <Nikyo> jknife: how do I do that.. make /home /dev?
[08:17] <tritium> Rotan, please stop, and state your problem
[08:17] <silwol> maybe somebody can help me with my problem: since my last kernel update for ubuntu 5.10 I got some problems with my nvidia driver
[08:18] <Rotan> you know /ect/hosts ?
[08:18] <Rotan> it's empty
[08:18] <aftertaf> anyone getting a dpkg segfault with the debtags package on dapper?
[08:18] <tritium> silwol, did your linux-restricted-modules get updated as well?
[08:18] <Rotan> */etc/hosts
[08:18] <silwol> tritium:  yes, everything got updated
[08:19] <silwol> tritium: the correct kernel module even loads using insmod
[08:19] <wickedpuppy> Rotan, <IP_ADDRESS>       localhost.localdomain   localhost       wicked1 <--- change the last value to your hostname
[08:19] <tritium> silwol, okay.  Have you looked at /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[08:19] <silwol> tritium: but xorg wants to load it by itself again.
[08:19] <jknife> Nikyo, its a boot option press F1-F? at the boot screen till you see how to do it
[08:19] <Zedugh> chr1srv, no, i cant do it in a non-live system either
[08:19] <ubuntu> hello there ... im  linux-newbie  testing  ubuntu live cd,  looking for  some mac mod desktop
[08:19] <tritium> silwol, the kernel module is separate from the xserver
[08:20] <silwol> tritium: in the log file i just get the same error message that i get when the restricted-modules is not installed
[08:20] <Nikyo> AH.. I see.. like passing commands to the kernael..
[08:20] <Nikyo> got ya.. thanks
[08:20] <vegos> wma help
[08:20] <anavim> ubuntu, to go gnome-look.org
[08:20] <Nikyo> Have a good thnksgiving
[08:20] <anavim> er, go to..
[08:20] <Rotan> what about host.conf, hostname, and host.allow?
[08:20] <wickedpuppy> vegos, did you go to the link the bot gave ya ?
[08:20] <ubuntu> lets see
[08:20] <Rotan> but thank you so much, so fal, wickedpuppy
[08:20] <wickedpuppy> Rotan, really ... you need all those ?
[08:20] <Rotan> *so far
[08:20] <tritium> silwol, are you sure your kernel and restricted-modules versions match?
[08:21] <silwol> tritium:  yes, they do.
[08:21] <Rotan> what SHOULD be in them?
[08:21] <wickedpuppy> i am wondering how you installed ubuntu
[08:21] <vegos> yeah
[08:21] <wickedpuppy> Rotan, how did they get lost ?
[08:21] <vegos> but the files i have are wma
[08:21] <Rotan> i was messing around as root
[08:21] <Rotan> ...
[08:21] <wickedpuppy> vegos, synaptic and search for wma ... you might have luck
[08:21] <ubuntu> live cd
[08:21] <jknife> vegos, goto sf.net and search around
[08:21] <nalioth> ubotu: tell vegos about w32codecs
[08:21] <Rotan> i don't want to divulge the specifics
[08:21] <ubuntu> im runnig  a live cd
[08:21] <rage> Hey, is there a way to get the gnome keybindings to launch custom applications?
[08:21] <tritium> Rotan, a dangerous thing to do
[08:22] <ubuntu> this is  nice  !!!
[08:22] <Rotan> unless you need me to
[08:22] <vegos> nope
[08:22] <Rotan> cuz i could
[08:22] <vegos> nothing in synaptic
[08:22] <ubuntu> just  got the cd into  the tray  and ...
[08:22] <jknife> ubotu, click on the lower left hand side where it says "Ubuntu" and change your name please
[08:22] <ubotu> jknife: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[08:22] <nickrud> vegos, I've heard of an wma plugin for xmms; you might find it on google
[08:22] <jknife> ubuntu, , click on the lower left hand side where it says "Ubuntu" and change your name please
[08:22] <wickedpuppy> Rotan, both host.allow and host.deny can be empty
[08:23] <Rotan> ok
[08:23] <Rotan> good
[08:23] <wickedpuppy> paste these two in host.conf
[08:23] <wickedpuppy> order hosts,bind
[08:23] <wickedpuppy> multi on
[08:23] <wickedpuppy> thats it
[08:23] <Rotan> so what should be in hostname and host.conf?
[08:23] <wickedpuppy> hostname if your hostname
[08:23] <jknife> Rotan, wtf did you do?
[08:23] <wickedpuppy> put ya hostname there
[08:24] <vegos> i found one for rhythmbox but when i ./configure it says something about needing development package
[08:24] <vegos> any ideas?
[08:24] <Rotan> ok
[08:24] <Rotan> i'm good
[08:24] <Rotan> thank you SO much
[08:24] <Rotan> ...
[08:24] <wickedpuppy> haaaa
[08:24] <ubuntu> wher is it ?
[08:24] <wickedpuppy> pls stop abusing root :P
[08:24] <ubuntu> in this window ?
[08:24] <jknife> vegos, apt-get make-dep <pkg name>
[08:25] <jknife> yes
[08:25] <Rotan> now to get out of this crappy os ang into ... wait...
[08:25] <wickedpuppy> jknife, why ask him to change nick may i ask ?
[08:25] <tritium> jknife, build-dep?
[08:25] <vegos> but what package?
[08:25] <Rotan> can someone tell me how to get modem support?
[08:25] <jknife> to the left of the input box
[08:25] <ubuntu_> .-
[08:25] <ubuntu> done
[08:25] <morphix> does anyone know of any guides to configuring samba(for network sharing) using terminal?
[08:25] <jknife> tritium, im not sure i usally do both
[08:25] <wickedpuppy> samba.org
[08:25] <nickrud> vegos, that apt-get build-dep rhythmbox will pull in all the rythmbox dev packages for you
[08:26] <Rotan> *listens intently*
[08:26] <nickrud> buy an external
[08:26] <tritium> jknife, make-dep is not a valid option
[08:26] <jknife> like i said i try both
[08:26] <nickrud> Rotan, what kind?
[08:27] <Rotan> intel
[08:27] <newbuntu> hehehe
[08:27] <nickrud> don't know that one
[08:27] <tritium> Well, you need not try it any more, since it doesn't do anything
[08:27] <Rotan> ...
[08:27] <newbuntu> thx
[08:27] <jknife> "new humanity to others"
[08:27] <Rotan> but an external one should be supported?
[08:27] <nickrud> Rotan, yes, and transparently
[08:28] <Rotan> what do you mean trasparently?
[08:28] <nickrud> *just works
[08:29] <newbuntu> can you tell me where can i find  information about  ubuntu in spanish ?
[08:30] <wickedpuppy> !es
[08:30] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:30] <kubuntu_guy> sr any link that can help me in setup a samba and ldap authentication
[08:31] <wickedpuppy> kubuntu_guy, samba.org and google
[08:31] <Llewxam> hmm... it works. yay. fixed it.
[08:31] <_> can you upgrade from debian sid to breezy?
[08:31] <kubuntu_guy> thanks
[08:31] <jknife> _, yes
[08:31] <wickedpuppy> isn't sid the unstable ?
[08:32] <bobessutio> jknife: is there something online?
[08:32] <bobessutio> jknife: instructions?
[08:32] <Rotan> dangit
[08:32] <jknife> ?
[08:32] <Rotan> why isn't there support for my modem?
[08:32] <Rotan> and why can't i dig up my external?
[08:32] <jknife> ohh just edit /etc/apt/sources.list to be ubuntu locs
[08:33] <bobessutio> jknife: thanks!!
[08:33] <nickrud> bob2, that is probably a downgrade now
[08:33] <tritium> Rotan, how does one answer such questions?
[08:34] <wickedpuppy> tritium, how does one answer such questions ?
[08:34] <wickedpuppy> :P
[08:34] <Rotan> not with another question
[08:34] <nickrud> bobessutio, that's a downgrade, sorry
[08:34] <crimsun> Rotan: the point is that your questions are meaningless without additional information.
[08:34] <bobessutio> nickrud??
[08:34] <tritium> wickedpuppy, :)
[08:34] <Rotan> anyone know anything about cedega?
[08:34] <nickrud> bobessutio, sid has newer packages than breezy
[08:34] <jknife> bobessutio, dont do brezzy do dapper
[08:35] <aloysius> hi, i have a radeon 9250 which i cant get drivers to install for on breezy 64...anyone know how?
[08:35] <Rotan> i have an internal intel 56k data fax voice modem
[08:35] <Rotan> do you need mobo specs?
[08:35] <crimsun> jknife: uh please don't recommend that unless you're willing to support the modular X.org FTBFS that we have going on atm
[08:35] <jknife> hes using sid
[08:35] <jknife> :|
[08:36] <ubuntu> bloody reiserFS doesn't want to resize ><
[08:36] <crimsun> Rotan: we need lspci -vv and lspci -nv (don't paste in here) output
[08:36] <jknife> paste in #freebsd
[08:36] <jknife> j/k
[08:36] <Rotan> i don't know what that means
[08:36] <crimsun> Rotan: and of course I presume you've already trawled the Web?
[08:36] <Rotan> yea
[08:36] <Whitynz> I want to get it fromm being a 50gb partition to 15gb
[08:37] <Rotan> There are 4 steps in this howto:
[08:37] <Rotan> sorry
[08:37] <Rotan> ignore that
[08:37] <n0dl> which is a better MTA Sendmail or Postfix?
[08:37] <Rotan> there are 4 steps, and three of them require that i both be in ubuntu and have an internet connection
[08:37] <Rotan> wait
[08:37] <nickrud> lol
[08:38] <Rotan> 2 require that
[08:38] <mrkoje> I think sendmail is harder to setup
[08:38] <crimsun> n0dl: generally postfix is used more readily
[08:38] <crimsun> "better" is entirely subjective
[08:38] <nickrud> Rotan, some very nice instructions :)
[08:38] <Rotan> yea
[08:38] <mrkoje> sendmail probably has more functionality for an enterprise solution...
[08:38] <n0dl> cool
[08:38] <n0dl> well its more for personal use
[08:38] <aloysius> noone knows about radeon drivers?
[08:39] <wickedpuppy> !ati
[08:39] <ubotu> ati is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[08:39] <Rotan> maybe i'll hook up one of my old wintendows and connect through it
[08:39] <mrkoje> Aloysius:
[08:39] <Whitynz> fucking reiser
[08:39] <anavim> nintendos?
[08:39] <tritium> Whitynz, please watch the language
[08:39] <Whitynz> sorry
[08:39] <mrkoje> Aloysius: you will have to get the ATI drivers from http://www.ati.com
[08:40] <aloysius> mrkoje: i tried that
[08:40] <tritium> mrkoje, no
[08:40] <mrkoje> Aloysius: Whats your problem then/
[08:40] <mrkoje> tritum: no what?
[08:40] <Rotan> would this work: http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/first.html
[08:40] <mrkoje> tritium: no what?
[08:41] <pbransford> Does Hoary have a firewall?
[08:41] <Whitynz> So anyone got any suggesions on how to resize a reiser partition (I'm on the live cd atm)
[08:41] <Madpilot> aloysius: the ATI drivers in the Ubuntu repos work, at least here - I've got a 9600XT 256Mb
[08:41] <aloysius> they install fine, both from ati driver and the apt-gotten binary....but they crash when i reboot
[08:41] <tritium> mrkoje, don't advise ati.com, please, when there are drivers in ubuntu repositories
[08:41] <linux-se-nybo> hi does anyone of you use pppoe internet connection
[08:41] <aloysius> Madpilot: are u using amd64?
[08:41] <pbransford> I hope there is a firewall of some kind. oh wait... dur! isnt it part of the kernel?
[08:41] <aloysius> tritium: but the repository drivers dont work?
[08:41] <Madpilot> aloysius: no, K7 here
[08:41] <pbransford> Does this distro have a nice GUI for it?
[08:42] <tritium> aloysius, they do
[08:42] <sedat> I love u ubuntu
[08:42] <cafuego> pbransford: All kids of GUIs that are as nice as you care to make them.
[08:42] <anavim> pbransford, yes
[08:42] <Madpilot> pbransford: it's got the lastest Gnome
[08:42] <aloysius> tritium: not for me they dont! :(
[08:42] <raingrove> pbransford, try firestarter
[08:42] <mrkoje> not for ati
[08:42] <aloysius> and im not alone
[08:42] <linux-se-nybo> hi does anyone of you use pppoe internet connection
[08:42] <tritium> aloysius, are you on a 64-bit machine?
[08:42] <mrkoje> ATI drivers are proprierty drivers... can only be downloaded at ATI.com
[08:42] <aloysius> yup
[08:43] <raingrove> ati drivers are crap
[08:43] <pbransford> thanks guys
[08:43] <morphix> does anyone know of any guides to configuring samba(for network sharing) using terminal? (samba.org is no help btw)
[08:43] <mrkoje> at least thats what I foundout
[08:43] <devnul> ATI makes crap
[08:43] <pbransford> used firestarter before, forgot about it :D
[08:43] <tritium> mrkoje, no, they're packaged for ubuntu in the restricted repo
[08:43] <Madpilot> mrkoje: there are ATI drivers in the Ubuntu repos
[08:43] <aloysius> devnul: thanks for your help :/
[08:43] <cafuego> I hear the latest drivers from ati.com will work much better on amd64 than the pre-built ones. It might be worth trying them.
[08:43] <raingrove> i wish my laptop had a geforce instead
[08:43] <anavim> pbransford, go to gnome-look.org for screenshots of what it looks like
[08:43] <mrkoje> sweet... well apt-get didn't fetch them for me
[08:43] <raingrove> mrkoje, it's called fglrx
[08:43] <mrkoje> :(
[08:43] <devnul> aloysius, what are you trying to do?
[08:43] <mrkoje> thanks
[08:43] <Madpilot> !tell mrkoje about ati
[08:44] <devnul> aloysius, i missed your message.
[08:44] <pbransford> anavim, i have it installed, i was just looking for the firewall configurator (just stopped using suse, hehe)
[08:44] <raingrove> mrkoje,  i am not sure whether it's xorg-fglrx or xorg-driver-fglrx.. search in synaptic or somethijng
[08:44] <cafuego> El_Che: on i386 or amd64?
[08:44] <aloysius> install fglrx driver on my amd64 breezy install....
[08:44] <devnul> Is it a radeon card?
[08:44] <pbransford> BTW, for future reference
[08:44] <aloysius> hehe yeh sure is
[08:44] <pbransford> can anyone throw me a link about moving from 5.04 to the latest breezy?
[08:44] <devnul> what model
[08:44] <mrkoje> you ubuntu guys are pretty hardcore about your package managers
[08:44] <linux-se-nybo> hi does anyone of you use pppoe internet connection
[08:44] <aloysius> 9250
[08:44] <cafuego> !hoary->breezy
[08:45] <Madpilot> !tell pbransford about breezyupgrade
[08:45] <cafuego> aloysius: The 9250 should work OK with the free drivers.
[08:45] <devnul> the r200 driver from xorg 6.9 runs much faster
[08:45] <tritium> !attack of the killer exclamation points!
[08:45] <ubotu> Not a clue, tritium
[08:45] <aloysius> cafuego: you mean the ones from the ubuntu repos?
[08:45] <cafuego> !!!
[08:45] <ubotu> from memory, ! is what you add before a sentence to talk to me
[08:45] <devnul> fglrx is basicly for your 9800 and above.
[08:45] <pbransford> thanks Madpilot
[08:45] <cafuego> aloysius: xorg-driver-ati (not fglrx)
[08:46] <linux-se-nybo> where can i read about installin internet on ubuntu
[08:46] <aloysius> cheers!
[08:46] <kaha> Losing my mind over this stoopid vid card (sapphire radeon 9200 se).
[08:46] <raingrove> fglrx driver sucks
[08:46] <Madpilot> pbransford: np
[08:46] <cafuego> aloysius: IF the x config asks, make it use the 'ati' driver and you should be fine.
[08:46] <mrkoje> raingrove: if fglrx is the driver for ati cards... what is better
[08:46] <cafuego> kaha: Got a 9200se here, works nicely.
[08:47] <BROKEN_LADDER> what is a .rar file?
[08:47] <kaha> xorg-driver-ati locks up my X in most games (tuxracer, UT, NWN), and I can't get the fglrx drivers to work in Breezy.  :(
[08:47] <BROKEN_LADDER> some kind of archive?
[08:47] <Madpilot> raingrove: it works fine here, I've got 3d accel at a good rate and the works...
[08:47] <sedat> the day when I can play battlefield 2 on ubuntu I will delete windows on my pc
[08:47] <raingrove> alot of apps
[08:47] <mrkoje> Cafuego: my xorg didn't like the ati driver for my x700
[08:47] <raingrove> such as celestia
[08:47] <raingrove> dont work with fglrx
[08:47] <raingrove> fglrx also breaks suspend-to-ram or suspend-to-disk
[08:47] <Madpilot> BROKEN_LADDER: it's an archive, like a .zip
[08:47] <mrkoje> raingrove: i see
[08:48] <raingrove> i hate ati
[08:48] <kaha> cafuego: mine works fine, unless I load a game. Not sure why; the fglrx drivers worked fine in Hoary
[08:48] <cafuego> mrkoje: That's ebcause it's too new. CHeck docs on whether hardware works BEFORE buying the hardware.
[08:48] <SookSeSiah> any one install ubuntu on Dell inspiron 6000? How can I use the modem?
[08:49] <cafuego> kaha: That's crappy, mine runs ppracer and stuff just fine (it's in a mac mini)
[08:49] <kaha> hrm
[08:49] <aloysius> i might have to save up and buy an nvidia card...the 9250 was only $30 new and i got it as a stopgap...turns out its a pain in arse!
[08:49] <kaha> cafuego: with mesa or fglrx?
[08:49] <linux-se-nybo> where can i read about installin internet on ubuntu
[08:49] <ke__> set theme foo.theme
[08:49] <ke__> Oups
[08:50] <raingrove> we should all boycott ati
[08:50] <raingrove> until they make proper drivers
[08:50] <cafuego> kaha: mesa
[08:50] <raingrove> nvidia drivers are good
[08:50] <mrkoje> Caguego: it's actually on a winxp machine that crashed. I ended up using ubuntu live and modded xorg.conf to use vesa
[08:50] <cafuego> kaha: Honestly, atio can't make amd64 work right, I have _NO_ hope for them on powerpc at all.
[08:50] <raingrove> (relatively i mean)
[08:50] <mrkoje> cafuego: or somthing like that
[08:50] <aloysius> yeh i had nvidia on my old system under hoary and it worked beautifully
[08:51] <cafuego> kaha: I personally have an nvidia card now (switched to it from Matrox, which has ALWAYS worked EXACTLY right)
[08:51] <kaha> cafuego: I like the Mesa drivers better than fglrx. But when I launch ppracer or UT, the display locks up hard within seconds. Did in Hoary, as well.
[08:51] <cafuego> kaha: Does the card have a fan?
[08:51] <kaha> cafuego: no.
[08:52] <cafuego> Ok, so it's not a broken fan then :-)
[08:52] <aloysius> kaha: what card is it?
[08:52] <kaha> cafuego: I wanna go on ebay and score a card (games, general use). What do you recommend I look for?
[08:54] <kaha> aloysius: it's a Sapphire radeon 9200SE
[08:55] <cafuego> kaha: go for any nvidia card
[08:55] <pbransford> when setting a rule in firestarter, i can set a range of ports right?
[08:55] <cafuego> kaha: mine's a 5700TDH and it works fine under amd64.
[08:55] <kaha> cafuego: which do you recommend?
[08:56] <kaha> ah
[08:56] <cafuego> kaha: I don't keep track of what's out... just bought this one when I thought my old oen had died (turned out the mobo had actually melted)
[08:56] <cafuego> kaha: Then buying a high-end card isn't going to do much.
[08:56] <kaha> cafuego: holy krap
[08:57] <cafuego> kaha: Any plans on upgrading the cpu anytime soon?
[08:57] <cafuego> kaha: http://www.cafuego.net/melty_kahlua.png
[08:57] <n0dl> exit
[08:57] <kaha> cafuego: not majorly. What cards should I look for?
[08:57] <wickedpuppy> kaha, if you absolutely must have a card name from this chan ... take this ... nvidia fx 5500
[08:57] <wickedpuppy> i am using it
[08:57] <kaha> cafuego: gotcha
[08:58] <cafuego> kaha: Any midrange AGP nvidia card should be a good match for your cpu.
[08:59] <kaha> cafuego: looking at picture... chernobyl!
[08:59] <cafuego> kaha: :-)
[08:59] <cafuego> kaha: The rest of the system was fine, it's got a new mobo now and runs happily.
[09:00] <Rotan> ...
[09:00] <kaha> cafuego: the fx 5500 would be good in my old crate?
[09:00] <Rotan> looked at linmodems.whatever.whatever...
[09:00] <Rotan> no help
[09:00] <Rotan> well... little help
[09:00] <wickedpuppy> Rotan, you are still here ...
[09:00] <Rotan> got some output file
[09:00] <Rotan> yea...
[09:01] <wickedpuppy> i go read agatha christie books ... the one with the belgium detective :P
[09:01] <ilba7r> anyone know what is the command that the logout button call in gnome?
[09:01] <cafuego> kaha: Yeah, should be around $70 from that I can tell and ought to give you 1) stability and 2) better framerates :-)
[09:01] <nadia007> trying to mount a drive, how can I tell what which hd it goes to?
[09:01] <kaha> cafuego: Right on! Thanks for the help. (getting tired of ATI-Land)
[09:01] <silwol> tritium: i just got it running. worked after a apt-get --purge --reinstall linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-686
[09:02] <cafuego> :-)
[09:02] <wickers> ok, quick question, how do you guys fight linux addiction?
[09:02] <ilba7r> nadia007 can you be more specific
[09:02] <wickers> 'cause I'm currently depressed, or in a form of depression, and being adicted to linux is only distracting me from getting better.
[09:03] <ilba7r> mount deivce directory
[09:03] <Rotan> wickers...
[09:03] <nadia007> I've got a second drive slave.  trying to mount it.  mount /dev/hdb1 /tunes but I get a filesystem error
[09:03] <Rotan> honestly...
[09:03] <Rotan> i dont fight it
[09:03] <nadia007> I've used hdb1 before, but now seems it doesn
[09:03] <nadia007> like it.
[09:04] <Rotan> wickers, have you been addicted to other distros?
[09:04] <wickers> Rotan, it's linux in general.. or computing in general...
[09:04] <Rotan> and speaking of addiction, has anyone ever been addicted to synaptic...
[09:04] <snadge> ubuntu doesnt seem to force reiserfs root partition to replay journal because its mounted read only.. is this a problem? (unclean shutdown)
[09:04] <renedox> addicted to synaptic?
[09:04] <wickers> I donno... not the right # I guess
[09:05] <Rotan> because there was a piont that i was installing about 200 packages a day
[09:05] <Rotan> every day
[09:05] <Rotan> for weeks
[09:05] <renedox> lol
[09:05] <wickers> in the end, I'm just holding out till I can go to consoling.
[09:05] <renedox> that must require a lot of hard drive space...
[09:05] <wickers> I just wish I could distract myself wtih something more healthy..
[09:05] <Rotan> i added extra repositories and kept d/ling until i reached a system instability so bad i had to reinstall the whole thing
[09:05] <nadia007> I did have to force an unclean shutdown.
[09:06] <renedox> lol
[09:06] <renedox> nice
[09:06] <Rotan> damn the marliatt and sid repositories
[09:06] <nadia007> how can I correct the issue and be able to remount it?
[09:06] <Rotan> masturbation has been linked to a decreased risk of testicular cancer
[09:06] <Rotan> ...
[09:06] <wickers> Then my odds are good.
[09:07] <Rotan> so technically, you're better off wackin off
[09:07] <renedox> lol
[09:07] <wickers> exactly
[09:07] <nadia007> anyone?
[09:07] <joft> another study found no correlation between masturbation and risk for testicular cancer
[09:08] <Rotan> can you show me that study, joft?
[09:08] <Rotan> sorry, it was prostate cancer
[09:09] <Rotan> still...
[09:09] <aspro> most peoples objections to masturbation arent physical though...
[09:09] <Rotan> better beatin off than months of anal probing
[09:10] <mrkoje> Rotan: man whakinit
[09:10] <joft> this site has some scientifically based reasons behind their ideology of practicing non-orgasmic sex (and no masturbation I guess) http://reuniting.info/
[09:10] <mrkoje> lol
[09:10] <jgonzalez> hi
[09:10] <Rotan> non-orgasmic sex...
[09:10] <jgonzalez> i have a problem with ubuntu apt sources
[09:11] <Rotan> isn't that like.... trench warfare?
[09:11] <jgonzalez> from yesterday always  the same message in apt-get update
[09:11] <jgonzalez> Imposible obtener http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/multiverse/source/Sources.gz  La suma MD5 difiere
[09:11] <jgonzalez> Imposible obtener http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  La suma MD5 difiere
[09:11] <jgonzalez> Leyendo lista de paquetes... Hecho
[09:11] <jgonzalez> W: No se puede leer la lista de paquetes fuente http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No existe el fichero o el directorio)
[09:11] <jgonzalez> W: Tal vez quiera ejecutar 'apt-get update' para corregir estos problemas
[09:11] <jgonzalez> what could happend ?
[09:11] <tritium> Rotan, please keep on topic
[09:11] <Rotan> sorry
[09:11] <Rotan> anywho...
[09:11] <Rotan> can someone help me config my modem?
[09:12] <Rotan> :)
[09:12] <joft> here are two articles about the prostate cancer thing: http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/64/14/4774   http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/gca?allch=&SEARCHID=1085521603701_6621&FULLTEXT=frequency%2Bof%2Bsex%2Bprostate%2Bcancer&JOURNALCODE=&FIRSTINDEX=0&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=&gca=jama%3B291%2F13%2F1578&allchb=
[09:12] <tritium> joft, not here, please
[09:13] <devnul> .ver devnul
[09:13] <mrkoje> jgonzalez: feliz dia acciones de gracias
[09:14] <painkiler> how do i make my self sudo most of the time?
[09:14] <tritium> painkiler, sudo -i
[09:15] <pawan> trying to mount my usb drive in breezy. I have these modules : usb_storage,usbhid,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd
[09:15] <devnul> ahhh better
[09:15] <painkiler> will this alow me to be sudo out of the shell?
[09:15] <devnul> stupid power management
[09:15] <tritium> painkiler, no
[09:15] <pawan> fdisk -l shows no sda/b
[09:16] <painkiler> its really anoying, this whole root, non-root thing
[09:16] <painkiler> i can access my files on my windows box, but i cant play my music folders...
[09:16] <painkiler> is there a program to read the itunes stream?
[09:17] <pawan> oh. needed to reinsert, and magically did its stuff
[09:17] <painkiler> cause none of my tunes work on my ubuntu box... well they do, but its hard to open them every time...
[09:17] <gp> Anyone know why Cedega says it can't find 'python'; even though the file exists?
[09:18] <painkiler> xbmc is built on mplayer, and that reads the itunes feed...
[09:18] <painkiler> there must be something out there.
[09:19] <painkiler> or should i just start a shoutcast feed...
[09:19] <painkiler> can i select the tracks i want on a shoutcast feed>
[09:19] <painkiler> *?
[09:21] <painkiler> could someone point me to a site?:
[09:21] <Rotan> man...
[09:21] <Rotan> i wish intel modems were supported out of the box
[09:22] <zygis> anyone knows what has happened with X in dapper? somehow all drivers are b0rked :)
[09:22] <Rotan> is there a package i can just install to make this work through apt-get?
[09:33] <RQ> hey
[09:34] <RQ> how come it's so silent? :)
[09:35] <RQ> i have an idea of a feature i believe would be very handy for laptop users, but i'm not sure where to propose it - here or on #xorg.
[09:36] <beginn3r> hai
[09:36] <beginn3r> i'm on Hoary Hedgehog
[09:36] <RQ> hi
[09:36] <beginn3r> and would like to try mono
[09:37] <beginn3r> but this is what I get when I tried to use apt-get to download it
[09:37] <beginn3r> E: Couldn't find package mono-devel
[09:37] <beginn3r> I thought
[09:38] <RQ> hm
[09:38] <beginn3r> I mean..from google search results
[09:38] <[Jonne] > maybe it's in universe or multiverse
[09:38] <beginn3r> I found that..that is the correct name for it
[09:38] <RQ> probably
[09:38] <beginn3r> I enabled all of them..
[09:38] <RQ> lemme check
[09:38] <beginn3r> ok
[09:38] <Seveas> beginn3r, if you want mono you MUST upgrade to breezy
[09:38] <beginn3r> thanks RQ
[09:38] <Seveas> mono on hoary is old, incomplete and buggy
[09:39] <beginn3r> Seveas it won't work on Hoary?
[09:39] <[Jonne] > and upgrading to breezy should be pretty painless, so you better do that
[09:39] <beginn3r> ok
[09:39] <beginn3r> thanks for the info
[09:39] <RQ> your welcome ;)
[09:52] <ignashoo> help? anyone?
[09:52] <St_Neurion> c.dynamix.com
[09:53] <ignashoo> help! anyone?
[09:53] <renedox> with what?
[09:53] <rob1> ignashoo, sure
[09:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> how are the ubuntu desktop settings specified when you start using a new account, and there are no customized settings files in your home?  where is the default ubuntu brown theme being specified at that point?  i want to change it at the system level.
[09:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> also, can i change my xscreensaver login box to get rid of the black face?
[09:53] <ignashoo> i'm new with Ubuntu, i have an xp installed in my system, can i install ubuntu without deleting xp?
[09:53] <renedox> BROKEN_LADDER: system -> preferences -> theme
[09:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> renedox you missed my question.
[09:54] <renedox> and it's stored under .gnome
[09:54] <BROKEN_LADDER> renedox i'm talking about when you first start up and you have no theme settings yet.
[09:54] <renedox> or was it .gnome2
[09:54] <RQ> ignashoo, tes
[09:54] <RQ> yes
[09:54] <RQ> BROKEN_LADDER, there are defaults :)
[09:54] <BROKEN_LADDER> renedox if you delete EVERYTHING in your home directory, and start into gnome, you'll still have the "human" theme.  that's being specified somewhere above home.
[09:54] <BROKEN_LADDER> RQ and where are those defined?!
[09:54] <BROKEN_LADDER> heh
[09:55] <renedox> why do you need to know where they are stored?
[09:55] <RQ> BROKEN_LADDER, /etc/gnome/ maybe? ;)
[09:55] <BROKEN_LADDER> renedox to change them.
[09:55] <renedox> ...
[09:55] <gp> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4975; any ideas?
[09:56] <zygis> RQ: kas su X'ais? :)
[09:56] <RQ> zygis, yr idja :)
[09:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> no one told that guy that installing grub will destroy the windows boot
[09:57] <RQ> privat
[09:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> hopefully grub lets you choose windows partitions..
[09:57] <RQ> BROKEN_LADDER, oops :)
[09:57] <chriswk> has an HPimage of breezy come out yet?
[09:57] <RQ> he never asked anout it :)
[09:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> i've been coming in here asking this question for weeks, and no one seems to know. arghhhh
[09:57] <RQ> *about
[09:58] <BROKEN_LADDER> how does one customize/change the look of the xscreensaver login promt?
[09:58] <BROKEN_LADDER> prompt
[09:58] <pebs> does anyone know how to setup dosemu?
[09:59] <b0uncer> ./dosemu -setup f00!
[09:59] <b0uncer> surely not like that
[09:59] <b0uncer> :)
[09:59] <rob1> BROKEN_LADDER, you could try asking about the default theme in #ubuntu-devel
[09:59] <rob1> pebs, try qemu instead
[09:59] <pebs> does qemu come with any freedos version or somethin?
[09:59] <rob1> qemu is gpl free
[10:00] <rob1> pebs, http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/
[10:00] <pebs> i've got dosemu up and running, and after adding the freedos package, it even tries to boot
[10:00] <gp> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4975; any ideas?
[10:00] <b0uncer> rob1, "gpl-free" or "gpl, thus free"?
[10:00] <pebs> nut it shows this error
[10:00] <pebs> C: HD1 Pri:1 CHS=    0-1-1 start =     0MB,size =  392
[10:00] <pebs> Kernel: allocated 41 Diskbuffers = 21812 Bytes in HMA
[10:00] <pebs> [dosemu EMS 4.0 driver installed]
[10:00] <pebs> ERROR: cpu exception in dosemu code outside of VM86()!
[10:00] <pebs> trapno: 0x0e  errorcode: 0x00000004  cr2: 0x468a5b2d
[10:00] <pebs> eip: 0x468a5b2d  esp: 0xbf9dffc5  eflags: 0x00010286
[10:00] <pebs> cs: 0x0073  ds: 0x007b  es: 0x007b  ss: 0x007b
[10:00] <pebs> Page fault: read instruction to linear address: 0x468a5b2d
[10:00] <pebs> CPU was in user mode
[10:00] <crimsun> whoa
[10:00] <pebs> Exception was caused by non-available page
[10:00] <rob1> b0uncer, gpl thus free
[10:01] <crimsun> please don't flood in here
[10:01] <pebs> /usr/bin/dosemu: line 218:  8831 Violacin de segmento  $SUDO $BINARY $XFLAG "$@"
[10:01] <b0uncer> rob1, ok :)
[10:01] <b0uncer> food ->
[10:01] <pebs> sorry bout that
[10:01] <rob1> pebs, qemu is like vmware but gpled
[10:01] <pebs> i tried vmware but installing it was like hell
[10:02] <pebs> ill give qemu a go
[10:02] <pebs> thnx
[10:02] <rob1> np
[10:02] <rob1> pebs, qemu is in the ubuntu repos so to install it just do: sudo apt-get install qemi
[10:03] <rob1> s/qemi/qemu
[10:03] <pebs> ok
[10:03] <pebs> ;)
[10:09] <zygis> what's the voodoo spell to unb0rk X in dapper?
[10:09] <RQ> :)))
[10:09] <rob1> install the correct drivers
[10:09] <crimsun> revert to the previous carnation.
[10:09] <crimsun> what you want is 6.8.2-77
[10:09] <pavelich> i am hammerd i just walked from my friend s house and its 2 and a half miles away\
[10:09] <crimsun> we should have most of the drivers building within the next 30 mins
[10:09] <pavelich> so col
[10:09] <pavelich> d
[10:09] <pavelich> chicago
[10:09] <zygis> ah :)
[10:09] <zygis> good
[10:10] <crimsun> hint: always use aptitude to upgrade, not dist-upgrade
[10:10] <bolrod> why
[10:10] <pavelich> i lobe ubuntu
[10:10] <Mabus06> what's the difference between aptitude and apt-get?
[10:10] <RQ> the interface is different
[10:11] <rob1> that opens a can of worms..
[10:11] <pavelich> crimsun i rember you dude hes a cool kid, knows his stuff
[10:11] <crimsun> I noticed that xserver-xorg-core has been held back due to the drivers ftbfs, so it never upgraded xserver-xorg-core or any of the drivers, thus I wasn't bitten by the bug that zygis just described.
[10:11] <bolrod> hrm
[10:11] <bolrod> dist-upgrade should fix that
[10:11] <pavelich> ubuntu is the way to go, knows hardware drivers
[10:11] <bolrod> apt-get upgrade doesn't take those things to seriously
[10:11] <crimsun> bolrod: it will fix it when the drivers are available
[10:12] <bolrod> there is a difference between apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade right
[10:12] <pavelich> yo happy thanksgivvin
[10:12] <bolrod> :)
[10:12] <crimsun> bolrod: otherwise if you slam through a dist-upgrade you'll end up with the precise issue that zygis described
[10:12] <pavelich> typinmg is hard
[10:12] <bolrod> I havent read what he described
[10:12] <pitti> BROKEN_LADDER: hi
[10:12] <zygis> yeah, kids, don't do this at home
[10:12] <nads> hi guys.... i messed up and edited grub's menu.lst wrong... so now during bootup it crashes to busybox. I know exactly what i did wrong... is there a way i could edit menu.lst from busybox?
[10:13] <fonsk3n> boot with a live cd, nads
[10:13] <pavelich> i am  dominatingh gnotertris right now
[10:13] <pitti> BROKEN_LADDER: sorry, I don't follow #ubuntu ATM (I just react to highlights, and I'm not the gnome master)
[10:13] <nads> is livecd the only way fonsk3n?
[10:13] <foxiness> what i need to login to my phpmyadmin "ubuntu 5.10 local" ?
[10:14] <BROKEN_LADDER> THANKS
[10:14] <fearl> Any ops around?
[10:14] <RQ> nads,
[10:14] <BROKEN_LADDER> all your settings are belong to us?
[10:14] <nads> cause i don't have a cdwriter
[10:14] <RQ> nads, you can edit grub options in grub itself
[10:14] <nads> RQ: where is that?
[10:14] <RQ> get to the grub menu
[10:14] <RQ> then press E
[10:14] <RQ> on the line which you want to boot
[10:15] <RQ> that'll open it's options dialog. Press E again to edit the options you want
[10:15] <pppoe_dude> so how safe is psi with my gpg key? will it do any funny stuff?
[10:15] <RQ> when you've done, press B
[10:15] <searcher`> foxiness: any valid mysql user
[10:15] <nads> really? i figured it wouldn't be possible....
[10:15] <nads> i'll try it out now
[10:15] <nads> thanks :)
[10:15] <searcher`> foxiness: if you just installed, `root' without a password will do it
[10:15] <RQ> nads, unless GRUB itself is broken
[10:15] <blodka> can azureus work on ubuntu live CD 5.10 ?
[10:15] <nads> grub works... but it doesn't load the right kernel module
[10:15] <foxiness> searcher`, indeed :)
[10:15] <bolrod> nasty
[10:15] <bolrod> :)
[10:15] <nads> i'll be right back, hopefully from ubuntu :)
[10:16] <bolrod> blodka: possibly... I dont know why not
[10:16] <blodka> thinking maybe it uses a different java
[10:16] <foxiness> searcher`, it work now :) thank you Rimas
[10:16] <bolrod> different java?....
[10:16] <bolrod> I think you only need 1.4 for azureus
[10:17] <blodka> which java do i have on the LIVE CD 5.1 ?
[10:17] <bolrod> I dont know
[10:17] <bolrod> do you have java at all?
[10:17] <blodka> dunno
[10:17] <bolrod> open a terminal and try  java --version
[10:17] <bolrod> or something
[10:17] <bolrod> hrm
[10:17] <fearl> !ubotu ops
[10:17] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and nalioth
[10:17] <blodka> i wish there was a way to save your settings on the LIVE version
[10:18] <searcher`> foxiness: make sure you change that empty root password though if someone else can get to the database
[10:18] <blodka> i could copy some settings to a usb drive,
[10:18] <blodka> but, I'd have to write a script to copy them back when i reboot
[10:18] <rob1> fearl, why don't you just spit out whatever your problem is?
[10:18] <bolrod> 'java -version' works
[10:18] <foxiness> when i try to install phpmyadmin it installed php4 when i have php5 and i see the dep and need php4 | php5 .... is this | = or and take the first one or what
[10:18] <blodka> k
[10:18] <pavelich> in chicago its about 20 degrees right niow and i just walked 3 miles from my buddies place
[10:19] <fearl> rob1: because its not related to the channel in general  :/
[10:19] <rob1> fearl, msg them direct then
[10:19] <rob1> otherwise its off topic
[10:19] <fearl> rob1: trying  :/
[10:19] <bolrod> 20 degrees is how cold?
[10:19] <pavelich> foxiness: look for a new tar.gz
[10:20] <bolrod> :>
[10:20] <fearl> bolrod: about -5 or so
[10:20] <bolrod> aha
[10:20] <foxiness> searcher`, i forget where the file need to change this ^_^
[10:20] <bolrod> its 2 C here
[10:20] <blodka> i don't think this java will work for azureus
[10:20] <bolrod> its still morning though
[10:20] <bolrod> blodka: why not?
[10:20] <bolrod> what version
[10:20] <blodka> it's hmmm
[10:20] <Fufachew> Is there a locale that shows temperature in Kelvin? That i'm dying for
[10:21] <blodka> now i see that it is 1.4.2
[10:21] <bolrod> well
[10:21] <blodka> maybe is ok
[10:21] <bolrod> check what you need for azureus
[10:21] <bolrod> I think it will do fine
[10:21] <BROKEN_LADDER> how can i give different permissions to a file for different groups.
[10:21] <roy_>
[10:21] <blodka> this live CD is better than the Gentoo
[10:21] <BROKEN_LADDER> roy_ chami nan chung!
[10:21] <blodka> more stuff works out of the box
[10:21] <fearl> BROKEN_LADDER: read up on acl's with linux...
[10:21] <blodka> even samba was pretty easy
[10:21] <BROKEN_LADDER> roy_ fo do dung hai shi soo wai
[10:22] <BROKEN_LADDER> access control lists?
[10:22] <fearl> BROKEN_LADDER: yeah
[10:22] <bolrod> probably
[10:22] <bolrod> there is no real other way I think
[10:22] <fearl> BROKEN_LADDER: thats kinda the point of them...
[10:22] <blodka> i'm hoping to make mplayer work too ---  but it is a pita so far
[10:22] <juliux> morning
[10:22] <BROKEN_LADDER> roy_ eni chi shun no wai gai genzhou
[10:22] <bolrod> blodka: hehe.. mplayer on a live cd?
[10:22] <anav1m> is there an easy way to make tar -xvf *.tar work, or do I have to write a script to handle it?
[10:22] <blodka> lol
[10:22] <juliux> i am search for a dvd label for breezy, can some on help me?
[10:22] <bolrod> anav1m: erh
[10:23] <blodka> i think it can maybe work
[10:23] <fearl> blodka: apt-get install ffmpeg gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg gstreamer0.8-multiverse-plugins (last one might be wrong)
[10:23] <blodka> dunno  if i have multiverse hooked up yet
[10:24] <blodka> thanks -=---
[10:24] <blodka> i must go now .....
[10:24] <blodka> 'til late
[10:24] <anav1m> bolrod, you were saying?
[10:24] <bolrod> why should tar -xf *tar not work?
[10:25] <anav1m> bolrod, have you tried it?  it doesn't work
[10:25] <gp> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4975; any ideas?
[10:25] <olicat> does anyone know if there is a command to tell me how much space is being used inside a directory?
[10:25] <fearl> blodka: apt-get install ffmpeg gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse is what I meant
[10:25] <bolrod> olicat: du
[10:25] <zygis> anav1m: for i in *.tar; do tar -xvf $i; done
[10:25] <bolrod> olicat: du -sh is probably easiest
[10:25] <anav1m> zygis, thx
[10:26] <nameeate1> can anyone help me out with a repository list for hoary?
[10:26] <CookedGryphon> hi, i'm running xfce (soooo much nicer than gnome or kde...apart from the rox file manager) and i ran nautilus instead of rox-filer, forgetting that it would take over the desktop if called as just nautilus, now xfdesktop won't start up anymore, can anyone give me any hints as to where i should look to re-enable it
[10:26] <fearl> nameeate1: what exactly do you want?
[10:26] <fearl> nameeate1: you're not being very clear...
[10:27] <zygis> CookedGryphon: you need to launch nautilus with --no-desktop
[10:27] <fearl> CookedGryphon: make sure nautilus isn't in your .xsession ... or /etc/X11/Xsession scripts...
[10:28] <nameeate1> a list of repo's for aptget for ubuntu hoary hedgehog
[10:28] <fearl> CookedGryphon: plus what zygis just said...
[10:28] <CookedGryphon> it doesn't run nautilus at startup any more, it jsut stopped running xfdesktop
[10:29] <zygis> CookedGryphon: have you tried running xfdesktop from terminal to see any output?
[10:29] <CookedGryphon> yep, it runs fine
[10:29] <`6og> does anyone know about chrooting proftpd?
[10:29] <roy_> hello.erverbody
[10:30] <fearl> nameeate1: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/   <-- all of those... 'deb url/path/to/directory/before/dists dist section
[10:30] <zygis> CookedGryphon: then readd it into your session
[10:30] <Madpilot> !repos
[10:30] <ubotu> [repos]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[10:30] <fearl> nameeate1: browse archive.ubuntu.com for a better understanding of that... and look at your current list...
[10:30] <Madpilot> nameeate1: see ubotu ^^^
[10:30] <nameeate1> thanks
[10:31] <fearl> Madpilot: thats not what he wants... he wants mirrors...
[10:32] <rsilva> Hello, there is a bug in the kernel in Ubuntu bugzilla whose status is PENDINGUPLOAD since 10/27th. Which is the best way to call attention to this? E-mail the responsible?
[10:32] <rsilva> Bug description: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18473
[10:32] <infralite> hello, doesanyone have any guides for installing enlightenment properlyunder ubuntu?
[10:32] <gp> Torrent program for Xubuntu?
[10:32] <infralite> gnome is taking over the desktop no matter how hard i try
[10:32] <zygis> rsilva: I'd suggest adding yet another comment for this bug
[10:33] <CookedGryphon> what's the best filemanager? I like rox's speed but the themes that i've got working look ugly, and nautilus is unbelievably slow
[10:33] <arnducky> ubotu, tell me about easysource
[10:33] <rob1> CookedGryphon, sh
[10:34] <rsilva> zygis: Yes, maybe I'll do that. I remember seeing some bug reports with many follow-ups with other people saying: I have the problem too.
[10:34] <CookedGryphon> rob1: lol fair point
[10:35] <robotgeek> CookedGryphon: maybe you might want to turn of all the metacity effects?
[10:35] <CookedGryphon> but still, for when my fingers are tired n i'm feeling lazy, or my granny wants to use my computer, what's the best filemanager
[10:35] <CookedGryphon> robotgeek, no no, i like the effects n things, its just in comparison to rox nautilus is so much slower, and that's nothign to do with metacity
[10:35] <robotgeek> CookedGryphon: rox was fast, but i never got used to it. i just use nautilus now
[10:36] <zygis> CookedGryphon: fpr the time being you won't find anything better than nautilus or rox
[10:36] <fearl> CookedGryphon: Nautilus spatial list view is my fav... not slow at all here...
[10:36] <zygis> s/fpr/for/
[10:36] <arnducky> Now that I've got all my gak installed an configured on Breezey for about five days, how do I upgrade to Dapper Duck so I can start fighting with things all over again?  (And is there an Ubuntu way to back up the old installation aside from third-party disk cloning tools?)
[10:36] <arnducky> =oD
[10:37] <infralite> any answers for me?
[10:37] <fearl> arnducky: change instances of breezy to dapper ... and dist-upgrade
[10:37] <zygis> arnducky: if you want end up being unable to start X, then just dist-upgrade right now
[10:37] <fearl> arnducky: I really don't think you want to do that though, if you don't know how already, you likely really shouldn't...
[10:37] <arnducky> fearl, that's all?  Just like going from Debian's Woody to Sarge or Etch?
[10:37] <gp> What is the name of a good torrent prog?
[10:37] <zygis> arnducky: absolutely
[10:37] <fearl> arnducky: umm... yeah...
[10:38] <fearl> arnducky: you are using the same tools here dude...
[10:38] <zygis> arnducky: but you have been warned! :)
[10:38] <fearl> arnducky: you expected them to make it harder just cuz its a derivative?
[10:38] <nameeate1> gp: rtorrent, torrentflux, bittornado etc, google/freshmeat/sourceforge
[10:38] <arnducky> what about debconf, gconf  and other pkg conf tools?
[10:39] <fearl> arnducky: debconf... yes... gconf is used by gnome, nothing to do with packages...
[10:39] <CookedGryphon> okay, update on my nautilus stopping xfdesktop, even when i run nautilus --no-desktop, it kills xfdesktop, i just hadn't noticed because the background pic stays
[10:39] <fearl> arnducky: I really don't think you should run a devel version...
[10:39] <arnducky> Things used to break when I would upgrade distros or even just mix apt sources) under GNU/Linux
[10:39] <arnducky> fearl, too late -- I'm running testing/unstable in another distro already -- heh
[10:40] <nameeate1>   /whois matthew
[10:40] <Madpilot> arnducky: mixing repos is not recommended...
[10:40] <zygis> CookedGryphon: it really kills it?
[10:40] <nameeate1> erm
[10:40] <arnducky> fearl, what do you thing you know about me?
[10:40] <fearl> arnducky: sid is more stable than dappy
[10:40] <robotgeek> CookedGryphon: there's a gconf setting to disable nautilus from ever drawing the desktop
[10:40] <nads> thanks RQ, it worked :)
[10:40] <CookedGryphon> zygis: yep
[10:40] <CookedGryphon> robotgeek: ok, i'll have a look for that
[10:40] <arnducky> Madpilot, sometimes it was the only way to get packages or libs I wanted short of coding them (ewww -- icky coding!)
[10:40] <arnducky> ;-D
[10:41] <rajasun> arnducky: testing/unstablke? heh me on Unstable/Experimental in Debian and Dapper on Ubuntu ;-)
[10:41] <fearl> arnducky: compilation != coding  :/
[10:41] <CookedGryphon> robotgeek: oh, but what if i want to use gnome for some reason one day?
[10:41] <fearl> arnducky: just add a breezy-backports entry to sources.list   :/
[10:41] <zygis> CookedGryphon: restore the default setting? :)
[10:41] <robotgeek> CookedGryphon: it just doesn't put the icons in. plus, you can restore the setting
[10:41] <arnducky> what about compiling?  (I said 'coding').
[10:42] <CookedGryphon> oooh, don't like changing settings jsut to use a different desktop
[10:42] <CookedGryphon> i try n get everythign to jsut work
[10:42] <Fufachew> where can i get sex? bash: sex: command not found
[10:42] <nads> i have another question... XMMS only plays mp3s from my windows' ntfs mount only after i play a song from the ext partition.. any idea why?
[10:42] <fearl> arnducky: I was correcting you... you needn't code anything to get the latest and greatest... just compile it for your environment... and voila
[10:42] <arnducky> I've got ANSI c, CGI  and Java hackers that I subcontract to when I *really* want something coded.
[10:43] <fearl> Fufachew: cliphunter.com is your best bet
[10:43] <MrFarts> nads, that's just bizarre
[10:43] <arnducky> fearl, you have no idea what I might or might not want -- heh.
[10:43] <zygis> Fufachew: you should be doing that in chrooted environment, privately
[10:43] <viviersf> why is 32bit mode off on the hdd by default in ubuntu
[10:43] <viviersf> ?
[10:43] <arnducky> ("Open mouth and remove foot", as they say -- hehehe)
[10:43] <arnducky> viviersf, it is?
[10:44] <nameeate1> how can i close a 'window' in irssi?
[10:44] <nads> farts i know... :) when i first try to load the mp3 from the windows partition it says "check that your soundcard is configured etc..."... afterwards it loads properly from the ext partition.... and then when i try the same file on the windows partition it works
[10:44] <Fufachew> chroot: cannot change root directory to sex: No such file or directory
[10:44] <viviersf> yes arnducky
[10:44] <fearl> nameeate1: /window close
[10:44] <viviersf> hdparm /dev/hda
[10:44] <nameeate1> thanks
[10:44] <viviersf> would give you 0 ( 16 bit )
[10:44] <arnducky> viviersf, in Breezey?!?
[10:44] <viviersf> yes
[10:44] <zygis> viviersf: try looking in /etc/hdparm.conf
[10:44] <viviersf> zygis, i uncommented the IO thing in there with no avail :/
[10:44] <arnducky> I hadn't noticed slow disk access, and I've got four ATA + 2 ATAPI devs
[10:45] <viviersf> arnducky, its not that slow cos dma is on
[10:45] <viviersf> but
[10:45] <arnducky> (/dev/sda for the fourth ATA-5 device -- I use an external USB 2.0 enclosure)
[10:45] <viviersf> doing hdparm -c3 /dev/hda etc
[10:45] <viviersf> will make speed much faster
[10:45] <arnducky> Still seek time to file must go WAAAY up
[10:46] <arnducky> viviersf, thatnks for the tip
[10:46] <nads> what command do i use to get the kernel version?
[10:46] <robotgeek> arnducky: would hdparm to a external usb enclosure work?
[10:46] <robotgeek> nads: uname -r
[10:46] <viviersf> arnducky, im trying to get that thing working on impi by default
[10:46] <viviersf> and i dont want to make my own rc script
[10:46] <viviersf> would rather try to fix it
[10:46] <rajasun> nads: uname -rsa
[10:46] <arnducky> I'd probably never though of checking to see if something so stupid is suboptimal
[10:46] <nads> cool
[10:47] <viviersf> why you laughing arnducky ?
[10:47] <robotgeek> arnducky: no, i don't know the answer to that. i am asking you if you have done it! i have a usb enclossure too, and it's slow :)
[10:47] <Tony327> ubuntu is in french???
[10:47] <viviersf> #ubuntu-fr
[10:48] <jose> hi all, anyone could help me mounting my ntfs in ubuntu?
[10:48] <RQ> jose, go to places > computer
[10:48] <jose> i cannot find any howto or tutorial, if you now a good one, i would be really thanksfull
[10:48] <arnducky> robotgeek, no idea, since I've never tried it.  My USB 1.1 (12MB/s at 'fullspeed' running off of Via UHCI chipset)is the bottleneck, so I've never bothered.  Plus the drive is just cloned partitions and backup images -- I use it for back-up instead of tapes or DVDs since it's less 'messy'
[10:48] <jose> ok
[10:49] <Madpilot> jose: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[10:49] <Tony327> #ubuntu-fr
[10:49] <robotgeek> arnducky: same here :)
[10:49] <RQ> jose, ah right, i remember that :)) one of my friends has that issue
[10:49] <RQ> it's mounted but you cannot read it, right?
[10:49] <jose> no, it is not mounted
[10:49] <zygis> Tony327: /j #ubuntu-fr
[10:50] <jose> do i need to install any kernel module or it is already installed in ubuntu?
[10:50] <arnducky> robotgeek, I still try to keep my part'ns under 4.699 x10^9 Bytes though
[10:50] <jose> (i'm coming from fedora)
[10:50] <Madpilot> jose: the URL I gave you above should help...
[10:50] <robotgeek> arnducky: lol, kk
[10:50] <rajasun> jose: what Madpilot just told u. Scroll up
[10:50] <jose> ok, i will read that first
[10:50] <RQ> jose, no
[10:50] <jose> thanks
[10:52] <arnducky> I've got a dual layer burner now, but media is still too expensive for me and I only have doze32 apps for making spansets and compressed image files -- which I'm trying to wean myself off of (though I'm tempted to buyt Partition Magic 8.0 since it has better Ext3 support and even supports 'end-lusers' who want to dual/multi-boot with Linux)
[10:53] <olicat> bolrod, thanks
[10:53] <nameeate1> is blackbox or icebox better? I know somethings are personal opinion but iirc one of them was better supported
[10:53] <RQ> arnducky, what is the question? :D
[10:53] <arnducky> They have 'wizard' scripts that will help you to make all the mount points, resize your Winblows, mange the MBR, etc.   It's getting to the point where a total n00b could almost handle multi-boot.
[10:53] <viviersf> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[10:53] <viviersf> qemu is so slow
[10:54] <arnducky> RQ, no question.  Does therehave to be one?  I was just quacking at robotgeek.
[10:54] <BROKEN_LADDER> what is smeg called now?
[10:54] <RQ> ah
[10:55] <rajasun> alacarte
[10:55] <arnducky> I found gparted/parted to be somewhat buggy -- blank GTK2 errors with not even a hex addy
[10:56] <nameeate1> anyone know about old compaq deskpro's and no sound? :|
[10:56] <pitti> BROKEN_LADDER: N_LADDER> one last thing before i depart..  i suggest you guys make it so that when you log in on a new screen, and you're already logged in, that the password box from xscreensaver somehow be bypassed, to create the "illusion" of an xp-style multi-login system.
[10:56] <robotgeek> nameeate1: not to start a flamewar, i've never heard of icebox. blackbox is fine, fluxbox is great
[10:57] <pitti> BROKEN_LADDER: why do we need that? Unix window managers have provided multiple virtual desktops for years already
[10:57] <arnducky> I might install a static ~-dbg version if I can find it though and send some core dumps or whatever, because I think a free and open, 'self-hosted' dynamic partition manager would be akiller app for Linux to beat the hell out of anything they finally bundle with Longhorn
[10:57] <nameeate1> ahh that could be it, thanks for that
[10:57] <arnducky> (besides Symantec's licens just sucks the biscuit)
[10:57] <ex-parrot> how am I meant to get VLC to use GTK properly under Breezy? anyone?
[10:58] <ColD_7> what is the command in terminal to copy files to other location?
[10:58] <ex-parrot> ColD_7, 'cp'
[10:58] <arnducky> ex-parrot, that's a really general question, can you be more specific -- maybe even pastebin some error message you're getting?
[10:58] <chriswk> Anyone knows if 5.10 is compatible with the nc6120 out of the box or if an ISO of HPUbuntu of 5.10 is out yet? Can only find Hoary and already have that installed
[10:58] <dima202> Hello
[10:58] <ex-parrot> arnducky, it just doesn't look like other GTK apps, or like it did under Hoary/Warty
[10:58] <arnducky> uhhh... 'look' is a problem?
[10:59] <ex-parrot> not a big one no :P I'm just wondering why it's changed since the last release is all
[10:59] <dima202> I have a question about themes. I downloaded a theme for GAIM but how do I use it? How do I install it to GAIM? http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=22348
[11:00] <Lardarse> does anyone here know why i am getting warnings whenever i try to update? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4978 is the warnings that i am getting
[11:00] <scanwinder> how do i start another X session in ubuntu? when i go ctrl-alt-F? and type in startx and it says sumthin about it says its already active on display 0
[11:00] <infralite> thatmeans x has not died yet
[11:00] <Lardarse> scanwinder: you mean restart X ?
[11:00] <jose> ok, thanks for the howto about ntfs, it is working perfectly!
[11:00] <infralite> kill -9 it
[11:00] <Lardarse> lol infralite
[11:01] <scanwinder> Ladarse: i dont want to kill the one i already have, i want 2 open
[11:01] <jose> i have another question... my system is not rebooting, i have to stop it manually
[11:01] <Lardarse> hmm...
[11:01] <jose> is there any way to reapir this?
[11:01] <Lardarse> scanwinder: i'll defer to an expert, then
[11:01] <jose> reapir = repair
[11:02] <arnducky>  AGP 8x or PCI Express x16 lane native support  <-- hmmm how can a card support both at the same time?
[11:02] <ironwolf> Formatting an xd memory card in ubuntu... mkfs.vfat /dev/sdd1 (or correct device?) yes?
[11:02] <arnducky> Maybe they ship two versions?
[11:03] <RQ> vlc uses GTK1
[11:03] <RQ> bleh
[11:03] <RQ> which basically sucks a lot
[11:03] <scanwinder> anyone know how i can start a second instance of X? im trying to make it so i can switch 2 another one when i die in americas army because i cant minimize it
[11:03] <snadge> how come the latest breezy "security update" for the kernel, also gave me a working boot splash screen and also fixed a message log storm after resume from hibernation?? :P
[11:04] <arnducky> ex-parrot, have you treid asking the developers (or looking for/designing your own skin -- if that is supported)
[11:04] <pitti> snadge: we did not actually change any code for that
[11:04] <dima202> I see a lot of people are helping other people. But has anyone here installed a theme to gaim? Like this one: rfectly!
[11:04] <pitti> snadge: I suppose that the kernel upgrade triggered an initramfs rebuild, which was missing in your previous install
[11:04] <dima202> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=22348
[11:05] <pitti> snadge: we will fix this in dapper (automatic initramfs rebuild)
[11:05] <ex-parrot> arnducky,  of course not arnducky I just lept in to IRC to complain ;)
[11:05] <snadge> oh okay, i thought it a bit strange to complain about bonus fixes but that explains it
[11:07] <snadge> it was printing a lost interrupt message every 20ms, and generated a 300mb messages file ;)
[11:07] <arnducky> robotgeek, general question -- say you're running blackbox, fluxbox, icewm or some other WM and you exec a fullscreen mode x-program?  What happens to all the running processes and is it any different than if you are running under kde or gnome with kdm+kicker+kde or gdm+gnome-de?
[11:08] <scanwinder> dima202: try reading the readme in it
[11:09] <dima202> I dont see the readme :(
[11:09] <scanwinder> dima202: tar -zxf filename.tar.gz
[11:09] <scanwinder> its under the folder gaim in it
[11:10] <arnducky> I used to think that xdm, gdm, and kdm were all fairly interchangeable... also I read something about moving/switching x-windows processes between x-consoles and now I'm fairly confused about how it all works (I though binding something to :0.0 and moving it would require a chroot script at the least which would suspend the process, require a completely new x-window UI shell and rebind -- possibly running into security problems in t
[11:10] <arnducky> he attempt)
[11:10] <BROKEN_LADDER> i was in my home directory and i almost just did "sudo rm -rf *"
[11:10] <BROKEN_LADDER> fokk
[11:11] <BROKEN_LADDER> then i realized i meant to be in ~/DOWNLOADS
[11:11] <joseluis> Hola
[11:11] <joseluis> jejej
[11:11] <joseluis> k tal todos...
[11:11] <dima202> All I see is the gaim folder, no readme :( scanwinder
[11:12] <ColD_7> what is the command to extract an tar.gz files in terminal?
[11:12] <tumi> tar xfvz
[11:12] <arnducky> BROKEN_LADDER, maybe replace /bin/rm with a link to a script front end that calls it dynamically and PROMTPS you -- hehehe
[11:12] <joseluis> Habla Spaish?
[11:12] <joseluis> hi
[11:12] <arnducky> no hable es
[11:12] <joseluis> eeee
[11:13] <joseluis> eres espaol
[11:13] <joseluis> jeje
[11:13] <arnducky> try /LIST #ubuntu
[11:13] <scanwinder> dima202: cd into the gaim folder and open the file "README" try "vim README" when ur in the folder
[11:13] <arnducky> and /LIST #*es
[11:13] <BROKEN_LADDER> arnducky or an alias
[11:13] <dima202> ooh
[11:13] <joseluis> joder
[11:14] <joseluis> English prostitute soon!!!!!!!!
[11:14] <arnducky> BROKEN_LADDER, if you alias something to  it, then you have another way to call the same function and N00K your install
[11:14] <joseluis> mejor SPANISH eehh!!!!
[11:14] <dima202> scanwinder, ~/Desktop/gaim$ ls
[11:14] <dima202> buttons  dialogs  icons  logo.png  status
[11:14] <ColD_7> is there any command in terminal that can copy the whole directory?
[11:14] <BROKEN_LADDER> arnducky ?
[11:14] <arnducky> joseluis, take a look on ubuntu.com at the Support --> IRC sectionh
[11:15] <nameeate2> man cp
[11:15] <nameeate2> something along the lines of recursive iirc
[11:15] <arnducky> I think there is a list of regional IRC channels
[11:15] <Lardarse> cp -r ?
[11:15] <Madpilot> ColD_7: probably appending -R or something will work, but "man cp" like nameeate1 said...
[11:15] <arnducky> It's probably #ubuntu-es
[11:15] <Madpilot> !es
[11:15] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:15] <nameeate2> thats probably it, cp -r * /blah/blah
[11:16] <Lardarse> the only reason i know hat is becaise rm -r is remove recursively
[11:16] <Lardarse> but i don't recommend you do that
[11:16] <arnducky> nameeate1, does cp copy .* by default?
[11:16] <Lardarse> and ESPECIALLY not as root
[11:16] <mememe> hi all :)
[11:16] <nameeate2> arnducky: I have no idea :)
[11:16] <Lardarse> hi mememe
[11:16] <arnducky> I've recently noticed that the kubuntu GUI doesn't
[11:17] <mememe> Has anyone heard of problems playing DVDs? I can play mpeg/avi ok, but when i play DVDs i get no sound? (in totem player)
[11:17] <dima202> ehh scanwinder, left.. :( Only person who tried to help
[11:17] <arnducky> err .* files that is
[11:17] <arnducky> mememe, waht is thje backend?  gstreamer, xine, mplayer?
[11:17] <mememe> arnducky, totem-xine
[11:18] <kestas> you can use mplayer as a totem backend?
[11:18] <arnducky> Some of them may use a different codec for .mpg audio and .cda etc
[11:18] <Lardarse> doe any1 here know what i have to do to get gcc to work?
[11:18] <kestas> mememe, I wuold try and play around with some settings in xine, youre more likely to find a config option in there
[11:18] <dima202>  Can someone please help me out? I am trying to install a gAIM theme but not sure how to  do this, here is the url: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=22348
[11:18] <mememe> arnducky, sound when watching DVDs work in VLC by the way.
[11:19] <arnducky> that's my best guess, but since I need to install libdvdcss and xine-ui on this system anyhow, perhaps we can work on it together tonight.
[11:20] <arnducky> (Crimsum ist the guy you wnat for sound problems -- he seems to understand Linux sound architecture and the directory structure very well, especially ALSA)
[11:20] <arnducky> mememe, it msut be a binding/pipe issue -- or hardware
[11:20] <mememe> It's kind of weird since totem-xine can play local files with sound.. maybe it's some /dev/dvd permission or something? Even though it's weird that VLC can playback with sound.
[11:21] <arnducky> mememe, how is your DVD drive cabled?  Do the programs that work use digital audio extraction or the signal input into your soundcard directly?
[11:22] <nameeate2> is there anyway to drop into console mode (closing X/gdm) with out rebooting?
[11:22] <snadge> dima202, the instructions are on that page?
[11:22] <arnducky> And, BTW, mememe are you a kiwifruit (.nz) that used to hang on Unet?
[11:22] <mememe> arnducky, good question i guess :) It's a laptop :)
[11:22] <mememe> arnducky, nope, sorry :)
[11:22] <arnducky> I see .se
[11:22] <dima202> snadge, reallY? Hmm... Maybe I am blind? Where do you see this?
[11:23] <arnducky> mememe, it should be hardwired -- no cp3-connectors unless it is a very strange laptop
[11:23] <knite> I want to modify the Breezy DVD ISO before burning it to media (mostly just to add more stuff to fill up the disk); how would you suggest I go about this?
[11:23] <snadge> dima202, "Just extract the contents and overwrite the gaim directory located in /usr/share/pixmaps/ to install."
[11:23] <snadge> nasty ;)
[11:23] <mememe> ** (totem:10603): WARNING **: Failed to load '/usr/share/xml/iso-codes/iso_639.x ml': Failed to open file '/usr/share/xml/iso-codes/iso_639.xml': No such file or  directory
[11:23] <mememe> I get that error while choosing "play movie" from the dvd menu.
[11:24] <mememe> libdvdnav: Unable to find map file '/home/gs/.dvdnav/DVDVolume.map'
[11:24] <mememe> libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00fd0000. Regions: 2
[11:24] <mememe> got that during startup
[11:24] <ColD_7> what is the command for deleting directory in terminal?
[11:24] <dima202> Thanks snadge :))) I still don't see that on the site though
[11:24] <dima202> :)
[11:24] <arnducky> (AFAIK, there are no mini-pci sound cards for laptops yet)  Although I've seen mini-pci voice modems that have internal connector cables (probably for WOL thogh,. not an audio signal)
[11:24] <knite> I'm thinking about just creating a new bootable DVD project (I'm using Nero right now) and just including all the files, but I still need to get a boot image somehow...
[11:24] <zygis> nameeate2: ctrl-alt-f1 hides X (alt+f7-12 brings back), ctrl-alt-backspace kills X
[11:24] <arnducky> mememe, how did you install xine, and do you ahve xine-ui or just libxine?
[11:25] <snadge> dima202, in the middle of the description, right in the middle of the page ;)
[11:25] <knite> ColD_7: rm -r
[11:25] <mememe> arnducky, apt-get install totem-xine
[11:25] <nameeate2> hmm, is that the best way to kill it tho? (I want to try out fluxbox)
[11:25] <knite> ColD_7: you should probably do "rm --help" to look over the help first
[11:25] <arnducky> Oh, and BTW, I need a fresh copy of libdvdcss (ver. 2 preferably).
[11:26] <ColD_7> :)
[11:26] <agnul> hi all, I'm trying to install breezy on a dell desktop with no ps2 ports, and both the live cd and the install cd complain about the usb controller. Error messages same as http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=491729&postcount=6. Disabling usb devices works, but then no keybord, so no install :-)
[11:26] <agnul> what could I try?
[11:26] <Lardarse> doe any1 here know what i have to do to get gcc to work?
[11:27] <dima202> ooh, i see it now! THe font is soo small! THanks snadge !! :)
[11:27] <dima202> Although I am getting an error saying I can't write to that dir
[11:27] <knite> anybody here try to create a custom ubuntu ISO?
[11:29] <Nermal> agnul: tried booting with pci=noacpi ?
[11:29] <snadge> dima202 sudo in front of it.. you'll have to do it as the super user, or root
[11:29] <arnducky> mememe the totem-xine package uses a different directory structure and links than xine-ui.  I recommend purging it, binding totem to gstreamer instead and building xine according to the 'advanced' instructions found on http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=9655&package_id=66558rg
[11:29] <Lardarse> ok...
[11:29] <agnul> Nermal: nope. I'll give it a try
[11:29] <Lardarse> next question
[11:29] <arnducky> err,t hat'st eh SF mirror list not the instructions -- jsut a second
[11:30] <dima202> snadge, sudo mv gaim/ /usr/share/pixmaps ?
[11:30] <Lardarse> what's the easiest way to get an md5 checksum of a file?
[11:30] <snadge> dima202, i'd have a look in both paths first and check to see if thats the right thing to do
[11:30] <arnducky> http://xinehq.de/index.php/faq#BUILDING
[11:31] <arnducky> Anymore surfing I can do for yoiu -- heh?
[11:31] <arnducky> ;-)
[11:32] <arnducky>  If you have installed xine-lib to a non-standard prefix, make sure that you have $prefix/bin in your PATH and that your linker finds libs in $prefix/lib - otherwise....
[11:32] <arnducky> export PATH="$prefix/bin:$PATH"
[11:32] <arnducky>    export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="$prefix/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH"
[11:32] <arnducky>  to make sure libxine can be found by the frontend(s).
[11:33] <PatrikJohansson> anyone know of a good direct connect client for ubuntu??
[11:33] <agnul> live acpi=off pci=noacpi => same errors
[11:34] <dima202> snadge, I am not sure what do you mean?
[11:34] <snadge> diam202: check to see if there are files in both paths, with the same names.. the intention is to overwrite the image files, with new ones
[11:35] <dima202> yes
[11:35] <robotgeek> arnducky: sorry, was away
[11:35] <dima202> yes snadge
[11:35] <snadge> dima202, do that then and restart gaim
[11:35] <dima202> sudo mv gaim/ /usr/share/pixmaps/ mv: cannot overwrite directory `/usr/share/pixmaps/gaim'
[11:36] <dima202> I also tried to rename the original one
[11:36] <robotgeek> arnducky: full screen X program? i guess nothing different should happen. (full screen in firefox/Konqueror works fine)
[11:36] <arnducky> np -- BTW, what was taht hdparm command?  I didn't get it copied into my notes before it left the scrollbuffer
[11:36] <robotgeek> arnducky: scroll up?
[11:36] <arnducky> robotgeek, waht bout 'high\ly compiled' binaries, like commercial games?
[11:36] <snadge> dima202, is gaim running? if so quit it
[11:36] <dima202> snadge:  sudo rename /usr/share/pixmaps/gaim /gaim2/ Bareword found where operator expected at (eval 1) line 1, near "/usr/share"
[11:36] <dima202>         (Missing operator before hare?)
[11:36] <dima202> syntax error at (eval 1) line 1, near "/usr/share"
[11:37] <dima202> No, it is not running snadge
[11:37] <snadge> dima202, oh dear.. use mv not rename
[11:37] <robotgeek> arnducky: should be fine, i guess. i havent run any games yet
[11:37] <arnducky> robotgeek, you knw -- they guy who said that IDE was running in 16-bit access mode (allegedly by default under Breezey)
[11:38] <dima202> snadge, oh okay, got it, why not rename? It's only for files, not dirs?
[11:38] <robotgeek> arnducky: 16 bit? looks messed up to me :)
[11:38] <infralite> for the mother of all things good, has anyone use enlightenment under ubuntu here?
[11:39] <robotgeek> infralite: u've missed the e16/e17 bandwagon by 3 hours, i guess
[11:39] <infralite> crap :/
[11:39] <snadge> dima202, there is no rename.. only mv, which achieves the same thing
[11:39] <dima202> snadge, strange.. it still look like same old gaim. WHen I started I got the new logo though
[11:39] <arnducky> If you call the executable from a different console, how would you even tell the game to bind to localhost;display_dev#0;screen:0.1 (tty8 usually)
[11:40] <robotgeek> arnducky: export display? not sure, i'm speculating
[11:40] <arnducky> IO_support   =  1 (32-bit)
[11:40] <infralite> anyone manage to run an alternativedektop to nautilus while under enlightenment?
[11:40] <arnducky> mine is on -- I have no idea what he's talking about
[11:41] <infralite> *alternative desktop
[11:41] <dima202> EH.. I guess it's not meant to be, I give up
[11:41] <robotgeek> infralite: you might need to have nautilus --no-desktop, or there's a option in the gconf
[11:41] <arnducky> infralite, I was just picking robotgeek's brain about something related -- heh
[11:42] <infralite> robotgeek: nautilus is dead
[11:42] <infralite> it exists no more
[11:42] <infralite> i killed it, i slaughered it
[11:42] <infralite> now i'm tring to get rox for my desktop, or by all means, anything else
[11:42] <dima202> I got rox on my Zaurus
[11:43] <arnducky> robotgeek, what's the difference between calling an x program from a console and calling it from inside a shell running in a preexisting instance of an x-server?
[11:43] <robotgeek> infralite: ah. i dunno any other file managers. there's something called cdargs if you like cli, or mc
[11:43] <arnducky> (I'm thinking that somehow the x server keeps track and 'tags' processes spawned in it's own 'userspace')
[11:44] <robotgeek> arnducky: calling x proggie without x running, you mean?
[11:44] <arnducky> But it's confusing to me since you can spawn one display manager or even just anotehr x server from within that shell
[11:44] <robotgeek> arnducky: i am not really sure of what you are trying to do, might be outta my league :)
[11:45] <arnducky> robotgeek, I want to call (or use a shell script to call x) and then exec anotehr program without x telling me that the display is locked
[11:46] <arnducky> I also want a better fundamental understanding of how this stuff works.
[11:46] <robotgeek> arnducky: and that shell program runs in another tty?
[11:47] <arnducky>  tty6:\# foo -sWiTChes start_arg [bindpath]  && exit
[11:47] <arnducky> that's basically what I want to do
[11:48] <arnducky> where Im calling the name of the x-console I want to run it in 'bindpath'
[11:48] <arnducky> xdm, gdm and kdm automatically call xinit, startx or X
[11:49] <robotgeek> arnducky: hmm, it's outta my league :)
[11:49] <wickedpuppy> arnducky, mail to x.org devel mailing list
[11:49] <arnducky> robotgeek, how do you start your fluxbox?
[11:50] <robotgeek> arnducky: i use openbox, and i use it within gnome :)
[11:50] <arnducky> robotgeek, what?!?
[11:51] <robotgeek> arnducky: yeah,it's a shocker ain't it :)
[11:51] <arnducky> Do you meant hat you actually login to a gnome DE using gdm | kdm | xdm and then type "fluxbox" in an x-term?
[11:51] <N6REJ> morning robotgeek
[11:51] <N6REJ> et al
[11:51] <robotgeek> arnducky: openbox is only a WM, so all it does is replace metacity
[11:51] <robotgeek> N6REJ: mornin
[11:51] <robotgeek> arnducky: openbox --replace
[11:52] <qingfang> yes
[11:53] <ColD_7> how do i install the downloaded cursors?
[11:53] <arnducky> It is, cause I thought you could just add fluxbox, enlightenment, icewm, (whatever) to the display manager's list of menu options (along with gnome, kde, failsafe gnome etc...).
[11:53] <arnducky> =o\
[11:53] <N6REJ> quick question.... I drug out an old p2-350 I had laying around and I need to make it into a workstation PRIMARILY for browsing, but also to run some office applications & be a print server.  BUT its only got a 4G and a 1.3G HD!  should I boot with live cd, and if so, will it use the HD to save the configurations or...........?
[11:54] <arnducky> robotgeek, I thought you used fluxbox or blackbox, not openbox
[11:54] <arnducky> =(
[11:54] <robotgeek> arnducky: used to use them, don't use them now
[11:54] <N6REJ> say hey belutz!
[11:54] <robotgeek> arnducky: they are added at /etc/gdm/Sessions/
[11:54] <N6REJ> ltns
[11:54] <Belutz> hai N6REJ
[11:55] <N6REJ> you ever get that cd I sent?
[11:55] <arnducky> N6REJ, just install directly, unless you want to copy partitions or data outside of the installer's partitioner
[11:55] <N6REJ> arnducky, not much room.. tried regular breezy install, and it complained cause it tried to copy the entire cd onto the HD
[11:55] <arnducky> Or unless you want to test for hardware compatibility with the static driver set on the CD 9which includes most of them).
[11:56] <N6REJ> arnducky, run that last part by me in english please?  Sounds about right?
[11:56] <arnducky> N6REJ, that's nto necessary IMO -- were you thinking about the M$ 'doze way of copying th install CD and then not being prompted for it later?
[11:57] <arnducky> N6REJ, a live CD has all the common drivers that its designers think most users will need.
[11:57] <N6REJ> no no, I tried a second ago to install breezy standard.  it got so far and said "ACK ran outa room copying rest of files from CD"!
[11:57] <arnducky> But they do not need to live on your disk.
[11:58] <arnducky> How much RAM, and did you do memtest?
[11:58] <N6REJ> arnducky, ok, now, if I boot with live CD can I get it to save the "customizations" to the HD?  in otherwords just use the live cd for the parts that won't change?...........  :( as I say that it doesn't sound right.
[11:58] <N6REJ> no, did not do memtest.
[11:59] <arnducky> Umm, I don't really know -- you'll have to check site.
[11:59] <N6REJ> 384? let me check
[11:59] <arnducky> A 4GB partitions should be lots
[11:59] <N6REJ> just make it one big one?
[11:59] <arnducky> If I were you, I'd make the 4 GB pt'n into two -- one for swap and put /home on the 1.3
[11:59] <Mabus06> what do you do when the "password is incorrect" for extracting rar files? :S
[12:00] <arnducky> That way you can back up /home to 2 CDs
[12:00] <arnducky> Mabus06, legitimately obtain the correct password (i.e. from the archive maintainer that decided it was worth encryting inthe first place)
[12:00] <N6REJ> ok, that works... I'd like to find another HD for it, but I'm not willing to invest alot of money on it just for a print server and web browser.  Need to save the $$ and spend it on new AMD 64 base systems instead!
[12:01] <N6REJ> much wiser investment.
[12:01] <arnducky> Mabus06, if you want help with cracking toolz, this is *not* the place to ask  -- *warning*
[12:01] <arnducky> All you're going to do is run cups, lpdd etc?
[12:01] <Mabus06> I didn't think I was hacking anything.... it was a copy downloaded from a .torrent, so I assume they wanted it to be downloaded by people
[12:02] <arnducky> You don't even need what you described for that -- unless you plan on serving for a busy LAN
[12:02] <N6REJ> uh, lets see, I need samba & browser primarily
[12:03] <arnducky> Do you even have more than one parallel iface on that thing?
[12:03] <N6REJ> nope
[12:03] <N6REJ> heck its a slot1?  ( long card ) cpu! asus mb.. I can't remember which one.
[12:03] <arnducky> Well, samba needs space (not for the software) but the whole point of samba is providing share space
[12:04] <arnducky> You want to share a couple GB only?
[12:04] <Fanfoua> hello
[12:04] <N6REJ> don't I need samba share to share the printers across the intranet?
[12:04] <Mabus06> arnducky, why would someone encrypt a torrent file?
[12:04] <Fanfoua> what is the command to list the networks around me with my wifi card ?
[12:05] <N6REJ> Fanfoua, look in synaptic there's a package that does that.
[12:05] <arnducky> N6REJ,  that's certainly the easiest way.  Pardon me, I though you meant you wanted samba for regular filesharing too -- my bad.
[12:05] <arnducky> Mabus06, you want me to guess?
[12:05] <arnducky> =oP
[12:06] <N6REJ> nope, just for print server... not enough umph for anything else right now.... running memtest and its got some bad memory :(
[12:06] <N6REJ> dang
[12:07] <arnducky> Heh, Fanfoua just reminded me to unplug my wireless (bluetooth) transceiver.
[12:07] <arnducky> buez  <3  <3    <3
[12:07] <arnducky> err 'Bluez' even
[12:07] <khermans> :-)
[12:07] <Fanfoua> what this package that lists the networks ?
[12:07] <frego> Fanfoua, iwlist intf scan
[12:08] <Fanfoua> ok thanks
[12:08] <arnducky> N6REJ, If you *only* want a printserer, I'd use Debian Sarge (just cause I'm more familiar with it).
[12:08] <frego> Fanfoua, where intf is your wifi card (ath0 for atheros, eth1 for ipw2200, wlan0 for others)
[12:08] <Mabus06> arnducky, I have the password now, how do I "use" it?
[12:08] <arnducky> If you are going to have an x-server though, then breezey:desktop might be your answer
[12:09] <N6REJ> nah, wife is going to use it to work on our groupware site too.
[12:09] <N6REJ> arnducky, k,
[12:09] <arnducky> Mabus06, look in the docs for your unrar utility FGS
[12:09] <arnducky> php groupware, Java?
[12:09] <N6REJ> php
[12:09] <Mabus06> arnducky, or could you just tell me, maybe?
[12:09] <N6REJ> tikiwiki
[12:10] <N6REJ> seems to have the most features.
[12:10] <Fanfoua> frego: how can i see with one it is : ath0, wlan0... ?
[12:10] <arnducky> Mabus06, I don't use bit torrent, ans I've never run into locked .rar archives so I can't really help you at all -- honestly.
[12:10] <Fanfoua> (which on)
[12:10] <Fanfoua> (which one)
[12:10] <arnducky> Now pls-stfu-now-kthnx-pls  =)
[12:11] <N6REJ> *covers eyes*
[12:11] <arnducky> !rar
[12:11] <ubotu> I guess rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression#head-32ba956d13d49934f65bf67dd40646653a7a6140
[12:11] <Mabus06> !coc
[12:11] <ubotu> well, coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/
[12:11] <Mabus06> arnducky, please read it, thank you
[12:11] <tobias__> hi there! is there any possibility to workaround the x-problems with dapper :) ?
[12:12] <N6REJ> I believe dapper has their own area
[12:12] <arnducky> Mabus06, there's is nothing inthere that says I have to put up with your harassment, now please LEAVE ME THE $#^% ALONE so I don't ahve to bother with adding you to my /IGNORE list
[12:12] <Mabus06> "if you have to ask how to use dappr, don't"
[12:12] <Mabus06> Harassment? :S
[12:12] <frego> Fanfoua, type iwconfig, and you'll see all wifi interfaces
[12:12] <Mabus06> If you read the CoC you would know not to say things like "stfu"
[12:13] <Mabus06> This is a friendly environment, thank you.
[12:13] <robotgeek> Mabus06: if you have unrar-nonfree installed, all you have to do is unrar x file.rar, and it will ask you for password.
[12:13] <Mabus06> Yeah I figured it out, robotgeek. Thanks.
[12:13] <robotgeek> Mabus06: :)
[12:14] <tobias__> so there is no workaround :) ? had no problems with unstable things till this moment...
[12:14] <arnducky> Yeah -- y9ou can't take RTF(unky)M  manul or "I don't know" for an answer.  I told you everything I know and you just keep pestering me with more questions (E.g. "or you you could just tell me")
[12:14] <Fanfoua> ok, thanks! (that's to help someone by telephone, and i'm on macos right now (not on my computer))
[12:14] <Mabus06> robotgeek, now I can watch beavis and butthead do america in peace! :D
[12:14] <Mabus06> arnducky, get laid
[12:14] <frego> Fanfoua, ok
[12:14] <robotgeek> arnducky. Mabus06 please stop
[12:14] <N6REJ> ok, lets knock it off please
[12:14] <arnducky> Mabus06, somehow Beavisd and Butthead seem apropriate -- LOL
[12:14] <arnducky> Now I'm smiling  =oD
[12:15] <Mabus06> robotgeek, I wasn't doing anything to "stop"
[12:15] <mahangu> Mabus06, be nice
[12:15] <Mabus06> mahangu, what are you talking about?
[12:15] <Mabus06> I am nice
[12:15] <Mabus06> I was poitning that abuser to the CoC
[12:15] <arnducky> ANyhow... N6REJ, if you have no data on the machine, I'm happy to try SSH supervision of an install with you
[12:15] <Mabus06> "get laid" was friendly "nice" advice
[12:16] <mahangu> Mabus06, sorry, was out of context
[12:16] <thoreauputic> OK lets get back on topic shall we?
[12:16] <arnducky> I don't want to be responsible for any of your data though.
[12:16] <N6REJ> ty thoreauputic
[12:17] <arnducky> If you choose 'expert' mode, after the second boot you should be able to choose from all the  Debian installer packages, including the "network console" and "SSH console" options.
[12:17] <N6REJ> arnducky, its ok, this is good practice for me.  I've got one breezy server, and my personnel workstation, so I need to be able to handle all the weird things.  And THAT box has been weird from the get go, but with it having a bad memory stick it might explain everything.
[12:17] <N6REJ> arnducky, yeah, I've already decided that it will have to be an expert install so that I don't get all the "FLUFF" installed.
[12:17] <jose> hi, is there any graphical interface for apt-get?
[12:18] <N6REJ> jose, yes, there are two.. one called symaptic and one called aptitude.
[12:18] <thoreauputic> !tell jose about synaptic
[12:18] <arnducky> Put a nasty password in and dcc it to me encrypted to me.  (The password and 'installer' account will be wiped after the system reboots the second time -- at least according to the breezey installer's directions.
[12:18] <thoreauputic> well, aptitude is not a GUI in the same sense synaptic is
[12:18] <arnducky> jose, kpkg too
[12:18] <Cope> what are the bot(s) called in this channel?
[12:19] <arnducky> (if you're using kde or kubuntu)
[12:19] <thoreauputic> Cope: ubotu
[12:19] <arnducky> Cope, ubotu and ChanServ
[12:19] <N6REJ> arnducky, I need to fix my memory problem :D tnx for the offer though
[12:19] <mahangu> Cope, ubotu is really the channel  bot
[12:19] <mahangu> Chanserv is a system bot
[12:19] <aeon17x> Cope: and nalioth, but he denies it repeatedly.
[12:19] <jose> ok, thanks witch one do you recommend me?
[12:19] <arnducky> N6REJ, 72-pin or SDRAM?
[12:19] <mahangu> Cope, dpkg is my friend :)
[12:19] <arnducky> if it's SDRAM, jsut yank the bad SIMM
[12:19] <Cope> dpkg rocks
[12:20] <mahangu> aeon17x, heh :)
[12:20] <N6REJ> arnducky, I think its 72pin.
[12:20] <arnducky> If you have 64 MB it should be enough... ewww
[12:20] <N6REJ> arnducky, I will when I find out which module it is.  There are 3
[12:20] <arnducky> EDO or non-EDO  (memtest should tell you)
[12:20] <SeRVeR> Is ubuntu support arabic language?
[12:21] <N6REJ> its not telling me anything about type yet... its still going.
[12:21] <arnducky> N6REJ, if there are theree slots in total it has to be SDRAM (a long, wide flat chewing gum stick -- but with the key in different places than DDR)
[12:22] <N6REJ> its NOT DDR :D  this is a p2-333
[12:22] <arnducky> 72 pin 'clicks' in -- you put it at an angle then tilt it back into the retaining clips
[12:23] <N6REJ> I'm trying to remember the model asus board...
[12:23] <N6REJ> its been forever.
[12:23] <N6REJ> p3c2000 I think
[12:23] <musofa> hewgfypgfwiiiiiipgfsj
[12:23] <arnducky> N6REJ, I have two mainboards that take DIMMs (not DDR DIMMs) that are older sitting right next to me
[12:23] <musofa> cgiewatfueigftora
[12:23] <musofa> g;ifywleewydweuheg
[12:24] <arnducky> Did you prnt scrnt he CMOS settings?
[12:24] <musofa> no
[12:24] <musofa> ggwu;fglg
[12:24] <thoreauputic> musofa: do you have anything relevant to say ?
[12:24] <musofa> hdsouitgewuo;g
[12:24] <N6REJ> what the heck?
[12:24] <N6REJ> musofa are you korean?
[12:24] <N6REJ> thoreauputic, if he's korean it will do that!
[12:24] <robotgeek> N6REJ: that was not funny.
[12:24] <thoreauputic> N6REJ: ?
[12:25] <arnducky> A P-II 333MHz system might have one of three kinds of RAM or even take two kinds (rarer boards)
[12:25] <N6REJ> yes, it will look like gibbberish
[12:25] <N6REJ> I've seen it before when I was a sysop for ms gaming zone.
[12:25] <rsilva> Hello I believe I have a memory leak in the kernel. Can anyone help me interpret the output of slabtop?
[12:26] <mahangu> rsilva, shoot, but also note that you can get help in your language in #ubuntu-br
[12:26] <mahangu> but yes, go ahead
[12:26] <N6REJ> robotgeek, what did I says that was mean?
[12:26] <rsilva> mahangu: I can speak English reasonably well.
[12:26] <Fanfoua> it's weird, i bought a new quite expansive wifi pc card, and the scanning doesn't work!
[12:27] <arnducky> 72-pins SIMMs (parity (and/or ECC parity) or non-parity, fastpage or ordinary); 'PC-66/100 or 133' DIMM
[12:27] <rsilva> My slabtop utility reports that one of my machines is using 160584K in ext3_inode_cache.
[12:27] <rsilva> This number looks high, doesn't it?
[12:27] <arnducky> not to me
[12:27] <arnducky> rsilva,
[12:27] <robotgeek> N6REJ: okay, i did not know korean looked like that :)
[12:28] <N6REJ> robotgeek, yes it can.. its wierd when you see it.. kanji does the same.
[12:28] <arnducky> How many total files have you got?  Are you using proc, udevfs with tmpfs?
[12:28] <arnducky> man hdparm
[12:28] <arnducky> man lsof
[12:28] <N6REJ> arnducky, its pc100 memory... 4 dimm slots
[12:28] <rsilva> arnducky: Why you say that. Free reports that 247Mb is being used in a machine without gnome running (only gdm, I am acessing it from ssh).
[12:28] <thoreauputic> N6REJ: well , it doesn't really - but maybe an encoding / non-UTF-8 issue
[12:28] <rsilva> arnducky: The machine is idle.
[12:29] <arnducky> N6REJ, cool -- then you probably have at least 128MB and they don't have to be used in pairs
[12:29] <arnducky> so just yank that bad one toss it
[12:30] <arnducky> Then check your BIOS, set boot from CD and do the memtest again, then install breezey-minimal
[12:30] <N6REJ> thoreauputic, that brings up a question I've been meaning to ask.  I've noticed lately that my ' and some A's are showing up weird!  go to http://www.cogyfarm.com/~troy/about.html and you'll see what I mean.  And I don't know whats causing them.
[12:30] <arnducky> After that apt-get install tasksel
[12:30] <totti> do you want to play soccer with me ?
[12:30] <N6REJ> arnducky, yeah, just have to find out which stick it is.
[12:30] <N6REJ> tasksel?
[12:30] <arnducky> N6REJ, I told you, you should be able to figure that out from memtest
[12:30] <arnducky> !tasksel
[12:30] <ubotu> arnducky: I give up, what is it?
[12:30] <N6REJ> when I install I never know wether to use utf-8 or utf
[12:30] <mahangu> Fanfoua, i can help you debug - wanna get in to offtopic?
[12:30] <mahangu> if you're talking about the 'monitor' mode that is
[12:30] <mahangu> for kismet etc
[12:31] <totti> sialan gua di kacangin
[12:31] <N6REJ> totti are you italian?
[12:31] <totti> mau kagak lo ?
[12:31] <arnducky> ubotu, tasksel is a meat-package configuration tool for Debian (which may be optionally used on Ubuntu)
[12:31] <ubotu> okay, arnducky
[12:31] <arnducky> !tasksel
[12:31] <ubotu> it has been said that tasksel is a meat-package configuration tool for Debian (which may be optionally used on Ubuntu)
[12:31] <N6REJ> totti italiano?
[12:31] <arnducky> ubotu, tasksel is a meta-package configuration tool for Debian (which may be optionally used on Ubuntu)
[12:31] <ubotu> ...but tasksel is already something else...
[12:32] <Goshawk> N6REJ, no he's not
[12:32] <N6REJ> ok, don't recognize the full language was trying.
[12:32] <totti> if you want,you must go to benteng
[12:32] <thoreauputic> N6REJ: are the "bullets" for apostrophes intentional? They show in the sourcce for that page here
[12:33] <N6REJ> no, they are the bad charachters
[12:33] <Goshawk> N6REJ, it seems something like..... arabian-like language
[12:33] <N6REJ> yes I know, I don't know why
[12:33] <thoreauputic> N6REJ: urgh, what produced that code? It's very ugly...
[12:33] <robotgeek> N6REJ: i don't see anything wrong in konq
[12:33] <arnducky> N6REJ, if your groupware site is going to spool many different print jobs, considering mounting /var/spool/ on its own partition
[12:33] <N6REJ> thoreauputic, don't ask you don't wanna know, It was written in desperation.
[12:33] <totti> no i am not totti on italiano
[12:33] <thoreauputic> N6REJ: heh
[12:33] <arnducky> N6REJ, are you taking notes?
[12:33] <N6REJ> arnducky, yes I'm paying attention.
[12:34] <N6REJ> morning Seveas
[12:34] <Seveas> oi
[12:34] <totti> are you can use indonesian league?
[12:34] <N6REJ> arnducky, does the memtest eventually quit and give you a report?
[12:35] <totti> hr'gyyhdirptyighiuerl,
[12:35] <arnducky> Next (in arnducky's fast and d3rty lpt dev install)... run tasksel and select [printserver]  meta package  (do not run this after you install anything else using breezey, because it will dselect unselected metapackages and possibly deinstall your Desktop if you already had one)
[12:35] <arnducky> N6REJ, you should be looking at a 'report' as it runs
[12:35] <totti> uitou heyeyu iiwwwr yrehyduie yetddreg!!!!!!!!!!
[12:36] <N6REJ> its on test 6
[12:36] <totti> juahaf hkddjfk ukgusjjsiydy?
[12:36] <N6REJ> totti we don't speak indonesian here.. wait please.
[12:36] <arnducky> DIMM slots are usually numbered from '0' to '3' (if you have four)
[12:36] <arnducky> err same for SIMMs... heh
[12:36] <robotgeek> totti: what are you trying to do?
[12:36] <robotgeek> thoreauputic: troll alert!
[12:37] <thoreauputic> totti: *cough*
[12:37] <thoreauputic> robotgeek: yeah I see :|
[12:37] <arnducky> Oh, and make sure you choose 'expert' install mode when you boot from the Breezey CD -- hit F1 to see the menu options
[12:37] <totti> do you knou bali?
[12:37] <arnducky> and debconf debug=5 (very verbose) might be a good idea too
[12:38] <arnducky> or # dmesg -n 5
[12:38] <arnducky> when you get to the console
[12:38] <allobjects> hello all, I'm not sure if this is the right channel to ask. I have just installed Ubuntu breezy and would like t install the KDE Edutainment Suite, can someone help me
[12:38] <totti> now i in roma city
[12:38] <arnducky> allobjects, try Synaptic
[12:38] <N6REJ> !tell totti ubuntu-il
[12:39] <allobjects> arnducky, Synaptic ?
[12:40] <rsilva> allobjects: The package manager.
[12:40] <arnducky> N6REJ, then install your desktop last using aptitude, dselect, dpkg or whatever you like (I recommend against installing the tasksel Desktop metapackage becasue it's bloated and will give you Gnome, and KDE instead of just one)
[12:40] <totti> bali is best of the best city in the world
[12:40] <arnducky> allobjects, do you have a GUI on that machine now?
[12:40] <robotgeek> totti: please stay on topic
[12:41] <totti> oke oke
[12:41] <xsje> Hi all. Q: how can i see whether my 3c905 is in fullduplex mode?
[12:41] <Luck_man> ola
[12:42] <arnducky> totti, cute and cheeky chocolate chix in Bali?
[12:42] <arnducky> ;-)

[12:42] <brownie17> can someone tell me what the hell the "login photo" does on breezy? and if there is a grpahical type logon screen to use instead of typing your username?
[12:43] <arnducky> It's not like the channel is really busy dude -- let him boast about his travels if he want.  That's what I say at least, though you may be a chop and pull rank on me if you like.
[12:43] <allobjects> arnducky, I have the standard Ubuntu desktop if that is what you mean
[12:43] <arnducky> KDE or Gnome (not that it makes too much difference)
[12:43] <Luck_man> ola
[12:43] <allobjects> Gnome
[12:43] <robotgeek> arnducky: no, i'm not a chop.
[12:43] <arnducky> :$ sudo synaptic
[12:44] <brownie17> robotgeek, no, dude, your a chop
[12:44] <arnducky> or Kpanel  -->  Utilities -- 'Package Manager (Synaptic)'
[12:44] <brownie17> robotgeek, you are totally a big chop
[12:44] <brownie17> hahaha
[12:44] <brownie17> i don't even know why i insulted him, just felt like it
[12:44] <brownie17> i apologise, it was rude
[12:44] <arnducky> brownie17, good gravy, are you trying to fry that chop
[12:44] <arnducky> ;-D
[12:45] <N6REJ> i'm off to go eat ... back l8tr
[12:45] <allobjects> ok Synaptic GUI is up
[12:45] <N6REJ> morning ompaul
[12:45] <arnducky> Good Idea -- I'll go make some food too now, I think
[12:45] <arnducky> =oD
[12:45] <brownie17> someone tell me what "login photo" actually does
[12:45] <brownie17> pleas
[12:45] <brownie17> e
[12:46] <ompaul> with 15 minutes left Good Morning
[12:46] <arnducky> allobjects, use the search feature to browse your package cache
[12:46] <xsje> how can i see whether my 3c905 is in fullduplex mode?
[12:46] <N6REJ> lol.. yes, I guess that about right for you?  2345 right now isn't it?
[12:46] <soundray> ompaul, you must be on UTC.
[12:47] <rob_p> xsje:  sudo mii-tool eth0 (assuming your ethernet interface is eth0)
[12:47] <ompaul> soundray, you got it
[12:47] <arnducky> (also there is a Breezey specific front-end script for synaptic that I find very annoying but may be helpfull when you don't know what you're looking for, or you're a newbie; or you need to add multiverse or universe for the first time)
[12:47] <N6REJ> ompaul, I actually wrote a useful wiki last night :D
[12:47] <xsje> rob_p: tnx
[12:48] <arnducky> ((err maybe it's in Hoary too))
[12:48] <rob_p> xsje:  np  :-)
[12:48] <arnducky> bye -now mealtime -- BBIAB
[12:48] <brownie17> brb
[12:49] <cion> hey all how do i install skype on ubuntu?
[12:49] <allobjects> arnducky, ok found the kdeedu so I'll just mark it and see how I go ?
[12:49] <thoreauputic> !skype
[12:49] <ubotu> methinks skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:50] <N6REJ> ok, back in a bit...
[12:51] <xsje> rob_p: a u willing to help me further?
[12:52] <bombero> hi , have ubuntu 5.10 installed, but with the kernel 2.6.12-10-386, how to change to -i686 ??
[12:52] <rob_p> xsje:  Sure.  I've got about 10 minutes or so.
[12:53] <os2mac> hi all... I am running Kubuntu but I am really tired of the whole blue thing... can someone point me to a place where I can get the offical ubuntu wallpaper?
[12:53] <cliebow> antone have experience woth lucent winmodem and kppp..works from wvdial but cant get kppp right...first a segfault..now just sort of resting
[12:53] <thoreauputic> bombero: sudoa pt-get install linux-686
[12:53] <thoreauputic> oops *sudo
[12:53] <bombero> thanx
[12:53] <bombero> will try now
[12:54] <xsje> rob_p: can we move to #flood. so i can show you the output of mii-tool?
[12:54] <rob_p> xsje:  See you there...
[12:55] <bombero> thoreauputic, it works, thanks
[12:55] <MrApex> hi all
[12:55] <thoreauputic> no worries :)
[12:55] <cfuerst> hi mrapex
[12:55] <cfuerst> where are you from
[12:55] <MrApex> im a complete noob to linux to bear with me
[12:55] <MrApex> UK
[12:56] <MrApex> i need to install the nVidia drivers
[12:56] <cfuerst> i am from austria
[12:56] <Seveas> !tell MrApex about nvidia
[12:56] <cfuerst> what distri you have
[12:56] <thoreauputic> !tell MrApex about nvidia
[12:56] <cion> hey all how do i install skype?
[12:56] <cfuerst> what distribution do you have
[12:56] <cion> pckges are different?
[12:56] <thoreauputic> heh OK too slow :)
[12:56] <cfuerst> apt-get install skype
[12:56] <cion> that's it?
[12:57] <MrApex> it keeps saying i need to quit x server
[12:57] <thoreauputic> !tell cion about skype
[12:57] <allobjects> arnducky, marking the kdeedu package cause a number of dependencies which fail....I'm going to get some shut eye and have another go at this in the morning, thanks for the assist
[12:57] <cfuerst> sorry i ment skyutils
[12:57] <TWD> Hi, can anyone help me with a (multimedia) codec problem?
[12:58] <thoreauputic> !tell TWD about ask
[12:58] <thoreauputic> TWD: you need to tell us what the problem is first :)
[12:58] <TWD> OK, thanks thoreauputic, I just thought I'd introduce my topic before giving all the details :)
[12:59] <thoreauputic> :)
[12:59] <Seveas> TWD, we like our problems in detail :)
[12:59] <RQ> TWD, iontroductions waste traffic
[12:59] <TWD> I've just installed Breezy, updated everything, enabled universe/multivers and the plf repos
[12:59] <TWD> and installed the w32codec pack, which as always unpacked a load of files to /usr/lib/win32
[01:00] <Seveas> !+goodmorning
[01:00] <ubotu> Gooooooooooooooooooooooooodmorning #ubuntu!
[01:00] <peter_> why doesent the mouse copy/paste buffer work for certain programs? i cant paste into xterm or vim from other apps (eg firefox)
[01:00] <TWD> I then went into totem (default, gstreamer version) and tried to play a divx
[01:00] <Seveas> TWD, ehhh-wrong :)
[01:00] <TWD> to which totem awnsered : no codec found.
[01:00] <TWD> Seveas: Which part :)
[01:00] <thoreauputic> TWD: install totem-xine
[01:00] <Seveas> yo need either gstreamer0.8-pitfdll or totem-xine to use the w32codecs
[01:00] <TWD> OK
[01:01] <robotgeek> what's the difference between k7/386/686
[01:01] <TWD> I installed pitfdll
[01:01] <RQ> robotgeek, the processor
[01:01] <thoreauputic> !tell TWD about restricted
[01:01] <TWD> but I couldn't seem to get it to work
[01:01] <robotgeek> RQ: are they all x86, as sucj
[01:01] <RQ> robotgeek, yes
[01:01] <RQ> but the optimizations differ
[01:01] <RQ> k7 is for AMD
[01:01] <RQ> 686 is for intels
[01:01] <TWD> OK, so otherwise putting totem-xine in is the only other option?
[01:02] <robotgeek> peter_: try middle clicking?
[01:02] <TWD> Thanks, I'll go check that out now :)
[01:02] <thoreauputic> TWD: try typing gst-register-0.8
[01:02] <TWD> already done :(
[01:02] <RQ> TWD, at least for me, totem-Xine worked better than the gstreamer version
[01:02] <thoreauputic> TWD: but read the RestrictedFormats wiki too
[01:02] <hanseatic> how do i get a sondfile like *wav or *mp3 out of a video.mpeg or avi?
[01:03] <MrApex> im quite impressed by ubuntu so far
[01:03] <robotgeek> RQ: so all the codecs an java will work on them ?
[01:03] <peter_> robotgeek: i am using middleclick to paste. doesent work with vim. otoh i can paste from the mouse buffer using shift + insert
[01:03] <Seveas> hanseatic, mplayer should be able to do that with a bunch of commandline options
[01:04] <robotgeek> peter_: one sec, lemme grab a link to help you out with vim :)
[01:04] <MrApex> woo it worked
[01:04] <MrApex> thanks guys
[01:05] <RQ> robotgeek, java???
[01:05] <hanseatic> seveas yes, and a bunch of other tools too, but mplayer does have A LOT OF options
[01:05] <RQ> ah
[01:05] <RQ> yes
[01:05] <RQ> they will
[01:05] <Seveas> hanseatic, indeed ;)
[01:06] <robotgeek> peter_: i hope you are refering to console vim
[01:06] <peter_>  robotgeek: yes, not i'm using gvim
[01:07] <TWD> OK, just to say that I've installed totem-xine and now everything works a treat, thanks all :)
[01:07] <robotgeek> RQ: just need the information
[01:08] <thoreauputic> TWD: :)
[01:08] <robotgeek> peter_: can't you paste at all, or it indents?
[01:09] <peter_> robotgeek: i cant paste at all.
[01:10] <robotgeek> peter_: it might have something to do with the unnamed buffer. but, i can paste without messing with it. one sec
[01:10] <ben_underscore> a box of ubuntu cds from shipit arrived today, about 40 of them. pretty good time seeing that i'm in australia
[01:10] <mahangu_> ben_underscore, you ordered forty?
[01:11] <ben_underscore> mahangu_, yep
[01:11] <mahangu_> ben_underscore, heh gotta do that myself
[01:11] <ben_underscore> mahangu_, i'm going to send them to local members of parliament
[01:12] <barry89> can anyone take a look at: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=94266 ...  am having problems getting to the virtual consoles
[01:12] <adam_> hi, have wrong charset (in xchat), how to change to 8859-15 ?
[01:13] <RQ> adam_, /charset
[01:13] <RQ> i.e., /charset iso-8859-15
[01:13] <RQ> or change it in the server prefs
[01:14] <robotgeek> peter_: you can middle click and paste to an xterm though
[01:14] <mahangu_> ben_underscore, awesome stuff, im in -offtopic if you care to talk
[01:14] <mahangu_> :)
[01:14] <adam_> thanks, it works
[01:15] <fsmw> hi all!
[01:15] <ZonaX> hi
[01:15] <fsmw> i want to setup a ubuntu mirror
[01:15] <robotgeek> peter_: try setting 'set mouse=a' in your .vimrc
[01:15] <peter_> robotgeek: no, i *cant* middleclick and paste to xterm or vim, so i dont think this is a vim issue
[01:15] <peter_> i have that set
[01:16] <fsmw> i know there is a page in the wiki, and point a rsync url, but i don't understand what to do with
[01:16] <fsmw> somebody know how to setup it?
[01:16] <robotgeek> peter_: so no, it's not a vim issue
[01:16] <peter_> shift insert works with both xterm and vim
[01:16] <peter_> but not middleclick :(
[01:16] <robotgeek> peter_: it's an xterm issue/your mouse issue. maybe you can try pasting in gvim by selecting text from firefox
[01:17] <barry89> is there anyway to get to a virtual terminal (apart from ctrl+alt+fx) ?
[01:17] <mvhenten> Hello! I was looking for a menu where I can setup the GRUB bootloader: I want to change the default timeout and os it's loading.
[01:17] <mvhenten> I typed GRUB in the wiki but I don't quite understand it.
[01:18] <mahangu_> peter_, is your mouse usb or ps2 or other
[01:18] <mahangu_> ubotu, teoo mvhenten about GRUB
[01:18] <ubotu> mahangu_: Not a clue
[01:18] <mahangu_> ubotu, tell mvhenten about GRUB
[01:18] <mahangu_> sorry abou tthat
[01:18] <robotgeek> peter_: any app will work, i guess
[01:19] <BigKahuna> Anybody using Tovid?
[01:19] <peter_> robotgeek: it works for gvim, no surprise there though
[01:19] <mvhenten> ok there is no 'menu' how I can do this? I have to open the "terminal" ?
[01:20] <robotgeek> peter_: so it's a console issue. i hope you are not using putty for some strange reason :)
[01:20] <peter_> i'm not using putty, dont see why it should make a difference though?
[01:21] <robotgeek> peter_: putty has some weird options for pasting
[01:23] <soundray> bash in gnome-terminal doesn't see certain keystrokes. The terminal menu opens instead. How can I change that?
[01:24] <barry89> can anyone take a look at: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=94266 ... I am having problems getting to the virtual consoles. Where is the keyboard config file located, if I delete it will it regenerate a new one (that works)?
[01:24] <mvhenten> ok, i have opened the menu.lst file. I have to change 'default num' to change default os right? so the first is zero? or 1? is 0 the default something?
[01:25] <soundray> mvhenten, 0 is the first entry.
[01:25] <mvhenten> so I have a total of 7 entries
[01:25] <mvhenten> the last entry would be 6
[01:26] <soundray> mvhenten, yes
[01:26] <mvhenten> when starting counting at 0? right?
[01:26] <mvhenten> ok
[01:27] <mvhenten> is every entry starting with 'title' in menu.list an entry? since there is this 'separator' menu, does it count to the number of entries.
[01:27] <mvhenten> I'm sorry, but this is a bit confusing
[01:27] <mvhenten> and I am on a slow network connection I don't want to go and download the live cd if things get messed up :)
[01:27] <soundray> mvhenten, you've got it right, though.
[01:28] <soundray> mvhenten, you could order the CD instead.
[01:28] <mvhenten> so the 'separator' also counts for the number of entries. ah, in that case I have 8 entries.
[01:28] <mvhenten> soundray, you are totally right. poor student tho.
[01:28] <soundray> mvhenten, never underestimate the bandwidth of a truck full of CDs.
[01:28] <soundray> mvhenten, they are free.
[01:29] <mvhenten> when I get rich I'll get a creditcard and start supporting the free software :)
[01:29] <MrApex> what package of Xcaht should i be downlaoding?
[01:29] <MrApex> XChat*
[01:29] <geone> hi guys!
[01:29] <soundray> MrApex,  the default one.
[01:29] <thoreauputic> MrApex: it's already installed by default :)
[01:29] <cion> I can't make my mic work with skype any ideas?
[01:29] <MrApex> oh yes
[01:29] <MrApex> :P
[01:29] <mvhenten> cion I had that problem
[01:30] <mvhenten> I changed the sound settings to "oss"
[01:30] <cion> u kixed it?
[01:30] <cion> oh riiight
[01:30] <geone> how do detect a new video in the post installation of ubuntu
[01:30] <mvhenten> skype only understands "oss" not alsa
[01:30] <thoreauputic> cion: check alsamixer for muted channels or openthe gnome mixer
[01:30] <cion> wow
[01:30] <geone> how do you detect a new video in the post installation of ubuntu,  i mean
[01:30] <mvhenten> if you have esd running (or alsa)
[01:30] <cion> no mc is not muted
[01:30] <soundray> When I hit Alt+F in gnome-terminal, the menu opens. But I want to edit the command line. How do I make bash see my keystrokes?
[01:30] <mvhenten> skype can not use the audio devices
[01:30] <MrApex_Linux> woohoo
[01:30] <MrApex_Linux> it al works
[01:30] <cion> ok so i use oss?
[01:31] <barry89> geone: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:31] <mvhenten> cion: that's how I got to use skype anyway.
[01:31] <geone> thanks
[01:31] <geone> some told to use modprobe
[01:31] <cion> ok ill give it a try
[01:31] <cion> thx
[01:31] <mvhenten> I have a sblive wich supports multiple wave out anyway so I do not need esd or alsa to work
[01:31] <cion> cya
[01:31] <geone> but i dont know how to use the command
[01:31] <geone> thanks
[01:32] <barry89> in a terminal type: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:32] <soundray> mvhenten, did you get my line saying that you can order Ubuntu CD's for free?
[01:32] <barry89> geone, it will ask you a serious of questions
[01:32] <geone> thanks ill try
[01:32] <barry89> geone, you answer them
[01:33] <barry89> geone,  backup your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file first, incase you break X
[01:33] <geone> im from philippines
[01:33] <gilmessias> ops
[01:33] <barry89> can anyone take a look at: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=94266 ... I am having problems getting to the virtual consoles. Where is the keyboard config file located, if I delete it will it regenerate a new one (that works)?
[01:33] <geone> quite new to linux
[01:34] <soundray> Guys, can you help me fix this silly terminal behavior?
[01:34] <ubuntu> holas
[01:34] <mvhenten> soundray, yes, thanks,
[01:34] <ubuntu> hello
[01:34] <ZonaX> nice nickname :P
[01:35] <ubuntu> thanks
[01:35] <ZonaX> ^^
[01:35] <geone> barry
[01:35] <mvhenten> however, about my slow connection: i was referring to my impatience: I guess If I had a day or so I could download the ubuntu cd with torrent
[01:35] <mvhenten> the connection is slow, but free.
[01:35] <soundray> barry89, does sudo chvt 1 work?
[01:35] <ubuntu> i am francisco
[01:35] <ubuntu> i am from chole
[01:35] <ubuntu> chile
[01:36] <El_Che> whereabouts?
[01:36] <thoreauputic> welcome francisco :)
[01:36] <geone> sometimes when i transfer my linux hardrive to a new board im experiencing kernel panic, how do you correct the problem
[01:36] <mvhenten> so I don't want to order a free cd: save them postmarks ( or are they a NGO that needs to spend money?)
[01:36] <barry89> soundray, yeah
[01:36] <geone> sometimes when i transfer my linux hardrisk to a new board im experiencing kernel panic, how do you correct the problem?
[01:36] <barry89> soundray, thanks a lot
[01:37] <barry89> soundray, you any idea why the ctrl+alt+fx shortcuts don't work ?
[01:37] <soundray> barry89, have you played with System-Preferences-Keyboard Shortcuts?
[01:38] <barry89> soundray, yeah, but I can't see anything relevant
[01:38] <soundray> barry89, have you got the Keyboard Preferences panel item loaded with weird settings?
[01:39] <ubuntu> quien habla espaol???
[01:39] <barry89> soundray, not as fas as I know
[01:39] <barry89> soundray, the ctrl + alt + fx works when I am not in the F7 (gnome!)
[01:39] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: /join #ubuntu-es
[01:39] <thoreauputic> !es
[01:39] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:39] <soundray> barry89, does it work when you have the desktop in focus instead of the terminal?
[01:40] <mvhenten> How much success have people had in running wine?
[01:40] <barry89> soundray, nope
[01:40] <soundray> mvhenten, plenty of success running wine down my throat.
[01:40] <ben_underscore> mvhenten, i once ran a windows virus in wine
[01:40] <ben_underscore> mvhenten, it was quite funny
[01:40] <geone> hello!!!
[01:40] <geone> sometimes when i transfer my linux hardrisk to a new board im experiencing kernel panic, how do you correct the problem?
[01:41] <soundray> barry89, have you restarted X or rebooted since this occurred?
[01:41] <rohan> hi all
[01:41] <rohan> i use irssi over
[01:41] <soundray> geone, your error description is insufficient.
[01:41] <geone> same thing happens
[01:41] <barry89> soundray, yes, it has been happening for about a week
[01:41] <mvhenten> ah ok :)
[01:41] <rohan> screen. many times, during minimizing, or when some other window covers it, screen goes black, and some words flicker
[01:41] <rohan> then i need to detach and reattach
[01:41] <rohan> then its fine
[01:41] <mvhenten> so... first I want to have access to the ntfs partition running the os of the enemy
[01:42] <rohan> anyone else experiences that ?
[01:42] <geone> +
[01:42] <geone> .+
[01:42] <barry89> soundray, I reckon I just need to delete the GNOME keyboard config file(s), but I have no idea where they are
[01:42] <robotgeek> rohan: screen as in GNU screen?
[01:42] <rohan> robotgeek: yes.
[01:42] <ben_underscore> mvhenten, try cross over office (non-free), it runs most windows stuff really well on linux
[01:43] <fearl> Seveas: you around?
[01:43] <robotgeek> rohan: i've never experienced that problem, i am not sure what the cause is
[01:43] <rohan> i could have googled, but i dont know what to search for, such a strange problem this is.