[00:05] <tomreyn> did you read the losetup man page?
[00:05] <tomreyn> it suggests running "losetup --find --show ~/file.img" where ~/file.img would be the image file
[00:06] <courrier> Is it possible that 2 concurrent dd if=f.img of=<2 different devices> interfer between each other?
[00:07] <tomreyn> AlexPortable: ...it would then print the loop devices which have been setup. you could then try running fsck (or e2fsck for an ext* file system) against those.
[00:07] <AlexPortable> forgot the offset, got it mounted now
[00:07] <AlexPortable> all files are there
[00:08] <tomreyn> courrier: what do you mean by "of=<2 different devices>"?
[00:08] <tomreyn> oh you ran dd twice, and thus created two images
[00:09] <courrier> the opposite, I copied the same image on two different USB sticks
[00:09] <courrier> but they appear to be both not working
[00:09] <courrier> gparted sees no partition on them
[00:09] <courrier> I first copied 1 stick successfully
[00:10] <tomreyn> you could do the same as alex, losetup the image and inspec its contents
[00:10] <courrier> Let's hope the explanation is that I can't copy twice at the same time
[00:10] <tomreyn> there's no reason why you couldn't do two concurrent writes
[00:33] <Kaedenn> Where is the content of the Applications menu (gnome-panel menu) stored? I want to edit them directly via dconf or something, but I can't figure out where the configuration is kept
[00:33] <Kaedenn> I found the panel itself in dconf but it doesn't list the Applications menu
[00:36] <tomreyn> /usr/share/applications/
[00:36] <tomreyn> and ~/.local/share/applications/
[00:38] <tomreyn> ,desktop is specified by freedesktop.org
[00:42] <Kaedenn> What about the listing itself within the Applications menu?
[00:42] <Kaedenn> The applications that are enabled/disabled, the folders, etc
[00:45] <Kaedenn> it's ~/.config/menus/gnome-applications.menu
[00:51] <Kaedenn> hmm, that's not quite it
[00:51] <Kaedenn> the thing is, Libre Office - Math is in the Science category but I want to move it to the Office category
[00:51] <Kaedenn> I though there'd be a way to move it
[00:51] <Kaedenn> failing that, I thought there'd be some XML somewhere I could edit to move it
[01:05] <huuuuugoo> hi, on lubuntu 18.04 LTS, if I'm having driver issues, can I download some driver from the internet somewhere, boot lubuntu with no internet, and then run the driver(s) from a separate USB stick?
[01:24] <thorie_> howdy! can someone help me figure out why i can't ssh into my ubuntu box? sshd is running (also apache) and i can connect via `ssh localhost` but not `ssh <public_ip>` (port 22 is forwarded on the router), and i don't have ufw enabled, but this was working fine, before i enabled ufw, i added `ufw allow ssh` but that blocked ssh, so i disabled ufw, and now it's STILL blocking ssh
[01:36] <lonelobo> it was working before you enabled ufw?
[02:13] <thorie_> lonelobo: correct. then i figured, for better security, i should block all other ports, so i enabled ufw (with 22 allowed), then suddenly ssh connections were getting blocked, so i was like, wtf...so i disabled ufw -- and they are still blocked
[02:14] <thorie_> was working fine, enabled ufw, stopped working, disabled ufw, still not working?
[02:15] <thorie_> i found something new, it actually sort of works - but only one ssh connection at a time
[02:15] <lonelobo> thorie_: strange
[02:15] <thorie_> if i disconnect one session, i can login again but only max 1 connection
[02:15] <lonelobo> can you have a session connected to localhost and a session connected to ext_ip or only a single connection at all?
[02:16] <thorie_> localhost many is OK, ext_ip only single
[02:17] <thorie_> could be this stupid home AT&T router/modem with a broken port forwarding software? :/
[02:18] <thorie_> not sure how i could test that, maybe i'll need to bring my server somewhere else
[02:18] <lonelobo> you could test that possibly by using a software firewall and putting the ubuntu box in the DMZ, if you can, but that's risky
[02:18] <thorie_> i didn't see any DMZ mode on the AT&T router configs
[02:19] <thorie_> oh well, as long as i can get 1 connection that's fine for now i guess
[02:20] <lonelobo> I don't think it would make any difference but I recently ran into issues with iptables coming into play, much different scenario but maybe worth checking?
[02:20] <lonelobo> I'm not a linux expert at all so I don't know what necessarily to recommend
[02:26] <thorie_> no problem, thanks lonelobo
[02:28] <lonelobo> thorie_: no problem. maybe do a 'sudo iptables -L' just to check and make sure you see ssh in the list? Sorry I couldn't be of more help
[03:10] <wangledorf> is there a way to install chromium not as a snap in 19.10? The snap is abysmally slow
[03:10] <wangledorf> (Besides building from source, though I may resort to that)
[03:16] <dragonriver[m]> wangledorf: doesn't apt install chromium-browser work?
[03:20] <wangledorf> *sigh* yep lol
[03:20] <WaV> All the sudden, my laptop stopped displaying to my television. I don't even have the option in Nvidia to mirror or extend displays or even anything that shows the TV being connected. How would I go about troubleshooting this? It was working for months. Can't really pinpoint when it stopped working. Ubuntu 18.04.1
[03:21] <wangledorf> I just uninstalled the snap and installed from apt, much better. thanks!
[03:22] <WaV> PulseAudio says that it is unplugged? Hrmm, that's interesting.
[03:23] <mrsideways> hello, is there a simple command line tool (maybe ncurses) to choose and connect to wifi networks?
[03:27] <thorie_> mrsideways: https://askubuntu.com/a/970641
[03:27] <mrsideways> thanks thorie_
[03:28] <dragonriver[m]> Np wangledorf . BTW, I often have trouble finding a package name (like I'll try chromium instead of chromium-browser). To search the packages, I do "apt-cache search somename" and it usually finds what I want.
[03:31] <k_sze> Hi guys. This answer tells me to add nouveau.modeset=0 at the end of the linux line. Do I add it even after the triple-dashes?
[03:31] <k_sze> or before the triple-dashes?
[03:32] <mrsideways> i put it before
[03:32] <mrsideways> and that works
[03:33] <Bashing-om> wangledorf: Be aware however that in 19.10 the snap for chromium-browser will be installed from "apt" :(
[03:35] <dragonriver[m]> mrsideways: Wicd is another option
[03:35] <mrsideways> wicd has a console mode?
[03:35] <mrsideways> i never knew
[03:36] <dragonriver[m]> yeah, wicd-cli and wicd-curses
[03:36] <mrsideways> cool, thanks
[04:00] <WaV> Seemed to have fixed my display issue by upgrading nvidia-driver-390 to 435. Not sure why it stopped working, but oh well. It's working now.
[05:10] <quarterback> Is it possible to see all processes being initialized during bootup rather than showing a ubuntu maroon screen?
[05:14] <quarterback> I was trying to display boot messages when starting ubuntu linux.
[05:14] <Bashing-om> quarterback: remove "quiet splash" from the /etc/default/grub config file.
[05:15] <quarterback> Bashing-om, Yes, thanks.
[05:15] <quarterback> rebooting, brb
[05:16] <Bashing-om> quarterback: Reminder: Always make a backup prior to editing:)
[05:30] <panorain> Hey!
[05:32] <panorain> I just stopped in and got that information about removing "quiet splash" i'm backing up now.
[05:33] <Bashing-om> panorain: "Safety is no accident" :D
[05:33] <panorain> Thank You for that reminder about backing up also.
[05:33] <panorain> :]
[05:34] <panorain> Ahh removed (quiet splash) but left the quotes - "" that is what I perceive to be correct.
[05:36] <Bashing-om> panorain: correct - the quotes left is required.
[05:37] <panorain> Thanks.
[05:48] <Coder73480> Hi
[05:48] <panorain> Hey
[05:48] <Coder73480> How do I install ubuntu in virtualbox ?
[05:49] <Coder73480> Is there a tutorial ?
[05:49] <quarterback> How to diplay grub boot messages entirely in graphical mode so that there is no blank screen when switching from text to graphical mode?
[05:51] <quarterback> This seems like a defect in debian and ubuntu distros.
[05:53] <Bashing-om> quarterback: Bootparameters " systemd.unit=multi-user.target ": and " systemctl set-default graphical" .
[05:53] <Greg_> Coder73480, you download the iso. start a new vm and select the ubuntu iso as install media. the ui is pretty straight forward
[05:53] <Greg_> but im sure theres plenty of guides on youtube or whatever
[05:53] <quarterback> Bashing-om, Where to set that?
[05:54] <Coder73480> What about settings like ram and processor core etc
[05:54] <Bashing-om> quarterback: systemd.unit=multi-user.targetis a grub boot thing .
[05:55] <quarterback> Bashing-om, I dont find systemd in grub
[05:56] <quarterback> Bashing-om, Do I have to add these two lines?
[05:56] <quarterback> Bashing-om, Do I have to add these two lines in grub?
[05:56] <Bashing-om> quarterback: You wont as "systemd" is a kernel thing. Once the system is booted, however, systemctl set-default graphical will start the GUI.
[05:57] <quarterback> Bashing-om, Where to set systemd.unit=multi-user.target ?
[05:59] <Bashing-om> quarterback: Boot to the grub menu - 'e' key for edit mode and inthe linux line replace quiet splash >> ctl+x to continue the boot process to TTY.
[05:59] <quarterback> Bashing-om, I had executed the second line as sudo
[05:59] <quarterback> Bashing-om, I edited grub and updated with sudo update grub2
[06:00] <Bashing-om> quarterback: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=""  ??
[06:01] <quarterback> Bashing-om, What do write in GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=
[06:01] <Bashing-om> quarterback: The command is 'sudo update-grub' in ubuntu.
[06:02] <quarterback> Bashing-om, I removed quiet splash in that line.
[06:02] <Bashing-om> quarterback: just the quotes.
[06:03] <quarterback> Bashing-om, Yes, after this, I uncommented GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480
[06:03] <quarterback> This is in grub file.
[06:04] <quarterback> Let me reboot to check.
[06:04] <Bashing-om> quarterback: MBR partitioning ? grub supports lots of resolutions. grubs command vbeinfo will tell.
[06:05] <panorain> Does one have to perform "sudo update-grub" after a modification to the grub file such as removing (quiet splash) entry?
[06:05] <panorain> I meant- Should one perform?
[06:06] <Bashing-om> panorain: Yeah I did forget to mention :)  it propagates the change to the operating system.
[06:07] <panorain> Bashing-om, No problem. If one does not (update-grub) the change will not take place until perhaps a system kernel update or something like that?
[06:08] <Bashing-om> panorain: Yeah you have the right of it.
[06:10] <quarterback> Bashing-om, I rebooted. Now, the messages are displayed in single font. However, the screen is cleared at one instant, then the messages are displayed again. How to prevent the screen from being cleared during display of boot messages?
[06:11] <panorain> Good question.
[06:12] <panorain> Or can the boot be paused in order to note or photograph the messages displayed?
[06:12] <quarterback> This seems like a defect in debian and ubuntu.
[06:12] <panorain> I recall this since some time ago I removed quiet splash also.
[06:13] <quarterback> panorain, No, the boot need not be paused. The Screen should not be blank during boot for any reason.
[06:13] <Bashing-om> quarterback: I have found no way to pause the screen with systemd :( the system recors the boot: ' journalctl -b -0 ' shows messages from the current boot,
[06:13] <panorain> I am certain the messages can be logged or are they kept in a /var directory?
[06:14] <panorain> Ahh great command!
[06:14] <quarterback> Bashing-om, This is not about recording boot messages. I am thinking how to display boot messages without stopping . The screen should not be cleared during display of boot messages. This may be due to switching of graphical modes.
[06:15] <Bashing-om> quarterback: Ya want to see my grub file - As I too want to see boot messaging, and works for me :)
[06:16] <quarterback> Bashing-om, Sure
[06:16] <quarterback> Bashing-om, Does your boot up screen blank for a sec and redisplay boot messages from top of the screen?
[06:18] <panorain> " journalctl -b -0 " seems in a way similar to " dmesg "
[06:18] <Bashing-om> quarterback: one page at a time that is cleared prior to the next page :( I have yet to find the means to pause since "upstart". my file: https://termbin.com/1a7e .
[06:20] <quarterback> Bashing-om, What I want is that the screen should not become blank and redisplay boot messages from top of the screen during boot up. This is a defect.
[06:23] <quarterback> Bashing-om, I am going to try gfxpayload entry in my grub.
[06:23] <Bashing-om> quarterback: Mind ya, until the kernel boots you have no interface with the system. Now there might be something one can do in grub ? But I have yet to discover.
[06:25] <panorain> Bashing-om, To you mean pause the message output?
[06:25] <quarterback> Bashing-om, I think the pausing and clearing of screen is something I want to remove. I have yet to figure out how.
[06:26] <quarterback> Bashing-om, I am looking for continuous display of boot messages.
[06:28] <Bashing-om> quarterback: try grub terminal command ' set pager=1 '.
[06:29] <quarterback> Bashing-om, Where?
[06:30] <Bashing-om> quarterback: from grub's linux line. but set pager=1 will notdisplay continuosly .
[06:31] <quarterback> Bashing-om, How to display boot messages continuously without break?
[06:31] <Bashing-om> quarterback: Ouch ! ^^ Grub'scommandline ! .. the 'c' optopn.
[06:32] <panorain> really?
[06:33] <quarterback> Bashing-om, Can you write complete steps for that?
[06:33] <panorain> Bashing-om, Can you explain this ?
[06:33] <panorain> :]
[06:35] <Bashing-om> quarterback: panorain : Boot to grub and with the desired kernel highlighted enter c. That brings up grub's command line for what to pass on to the kernel.
[06:36] <panorain> Ahh "left shift" will allow boot to grub?
[06:37] <Bashing-om> panorain: UEFI is the escape key that grub looks for .
[06:37] <panorain> Bashing-om, Then enter "pager=1" with no quotes. Ohh
[06:37] <Bashing-om> panorain: Correct.
[06:37] <panorain> Bashing-om, No UEFI then left shift correct?
[06:37] <panorain> I am noting this.
[06:38] <Bashing-om> panorain: Yepper shift key in legacy is what grub looks for.
[06:39] <panorain> Bashing-om, Thanks.
[06:39] <Bashing-om> panorain: The Bible: https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub/grub.html
[06:40] <panorain> I better note this
[06:43] <panorain> Alot of way's to disrupt a boot there also. So after each modification it's best to label the backup say ".bak0" - ".bak1" etc etc I imagine.
[06:44] <Bashing-om> panorain: Well, I make the label as the date.
[06:45] <panorain> Good Idea but what when you modyfy a few times during the same day? I have donw this with keepassx.
[06:45] <panorain> modify*
[06:45] <quarterback> Bashing-om, Is it possible to set pager=1 in a config file?
[06:46] <Bashing-om> quarterback: Not that I am aware of // but what I do not know fills a very large book .
[06:49] <panorain> I didn't know about UEFI boot with (ESC) key vs. (Left Shift) key on legacy hardware since I only last week own a desktop with UEFI.
[06:50] <panorain> Which is still under construction heh.
[06:50] <Bashing-om> panorain: Not looking forward to learning EFI. But it is the future.
[06:52] <panorain> So BIOS - UEFI - then EFI ?
[06:52] <panorain> I suppose I can look that up.
[06:54] <panorain> I'm off to rest.
[06:54] <panorain> Thanks for the notes and help.
[06:55] <Bashing-om> quadrathoch2: I am out of here also // others here can respond to questions :)
[07:03] <quarterback> Still the screen blanks during boot for a secodn.
[07:06] <quarterback> This seems to provide some info https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB/Tips_and_tricks
[10:07] <dionysus69> ok I have closed down all large software that is using up RAM
[10:07] <dionysus69> but current RAM usage is at 7.1 GB
[10:08] <dionysus69> something shady is using up RAM, can you help me diagnose this. htop or ksysguard are not showing anything that is using that much RAM
[10:09] <dionysus69>                       total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
[10:09] <dionysus69> Mem:            15G        7,2G        2,0G        152M        6,4G        7,9G
[10:10] <legreffier> dionysus69: it won't show as free , but it's still adressable , that's the expected behavior
[10:11] <legreffier> not wasting cycle for cosmetic
[10:11] <dionysus69> no it's not, some large memory process crashed because it couldnt allocate
[10:11] <dionysus69> I am not talking about cache, I have problem besides that :)
[10:11] <dionysus69> that use 7.2G should be something like 2-3
[10:11] <dionysus69> used*
[10:20] <tomreyn> dionysus69: just reboot then?
[10:21] <dionysus69> tomreyn: started happening often, I will have to reboot everycouple days now
[10:21] <tomreyn> it's a desktop computer, isn't it?
[10:21] <legreffier> what was the large memory process ?
[10:21] <dionysus69> I know it sounds like every normal pc user would do but this sounds like a memory leaky bug, I am just curious what's gulping down RAM :P
[10:22] <legreffier> alway the same process process is crashing ?
[10:22] <dionysus69> legreffier: large integrated parallel test suite, would launch 12 processes in parallel
[10:22] <tomreyn> what was logged when the process crashed?
[10:23] <legreffier> did the number of parallel test change recently ?
[10:23] <dionysus69> legreffier: no, I am sure it crashed because of the lack of memory, in reality it wouldn't require more than 8gb of RAM, if what you are saying is true and part of that 7.1 is accessible, then it shouldnt crash
[10:23] <dionysus69> tomreyn: not sure, some processes couldnt get started. lots of different software is being launched during testing.
[10:24] <tomreyn> so check journalctl then
[10:25] <dionysus69> for what? I dont care which process crashed, I am sure it was because of lack of memory, all I have left to do is to check which memory is siphoning memory, if htop and sysmonitor are the only way to check these, then I guess the only thing I can do is reboot, because those arent showing any process using that much of ram, we are talking about 3-4 gb of ram which is unaccounted
[10:27] <dionysus69> I wasnt always getting this kind of problem, this happens after 2 days uptime. I sometimes had 2 week uptime on my laptop so when pc has this kind of problem it's awkward ^.^
[10:32] <tomreyn> if linux was unable to reuse the memory of the failed process it may have logged so by the time it tried, which certainly was by the time the process failed. what you said sounded like you were determined to identify the root cause.
[10:33] <tomreyn> anyway, i don't feel like arguing with you as to why you should inspect your logs.
[11:11] <someone235> Hi, When I unlock my screen I get a message "package temperature above threshold cpu throttled" buy my laptop is not warm. Someone knows what could cause this?
[11:12] <someone235> s/buy/but
[11:17] <badcloud_> Is ppa.launchpad.net down? I'm trying to add a repo and it just hangs when I run add-apt-repository
[11:21] <jeremy31> badcloud_: I can ping the server
[11:22] <badcloud_> This is the last line in an strace of add-apt-repository command: connect(5, {sa_family=AF_INET6, sin6_port=htons(443), inet_pton(AF_INET6, "2001:67c:1560:8003::8003", &sin6_addr), sin6_flowinfo=htonl(0), sin6_scope_id=0}, 28
[11:23] <badcloud_> Shouldn't it be using IPv4?
[11:26] <tatertots>  why would it be limited to using IPV4 when you as the system administrator have done nothing to disable IPv6?
[11:29] <badcloud_> tatertots true
[11:31] <tatertots> badcloud_: can you ping ppa.launchpad.net ?....
[11:31] <tatertots> badcloud_: jeremy31 says he can ping it...how about you give it a try
[11:31] <badcloud_> No
[11:31] <badcloud_> It wont return ping
[11:32] <tatertots> badcloud_: but you can ping google.com right?
[11:32] <badcloud_> I've tried from two different wifi access points
[11:33] <jeremy31> 64 bytes from haetae.canonical.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[11:33] <badcloud_> I forgot, I'm using a Univ. access point, they don't allow pinging outside
[11:33] <badcloud_> But ppa.launchpad.net forwards me to launchpad.net in my browser
[11:34] <tatertots> use your iphone as a hotspot and test minus this school network you speak of
[11:34] <tatertots> i know you have a iphone
[11:34] <tatertots> right?
[11:34] <badcloud_> No :)
[11:34] <badcloud_> Why did you guess I do?
[11:34] <tatertots> use your android as a hot spot then
[11:35] <badcloud_> I'm on an N900
[11:35] <badcloud_> :)
[11:35] <tatertots> :) if you can't change anything then you'll just have to live without the ppa you're desiring to add
[11:36] <jeremy31> until you get on a different network
[11:36] <badcloud_> I actually did try from my home network, also got the same thing
[11:36] <badcloud_> But for shits and giggles I'll use my phone's network
[11:37] <jeremy31> badcloud_: try disabling IPv6
[11:38] <tomreyn> ping6 to 2001:67c:1560:8003::8003 works fine here
[11:39] <tatertots> that proves it's not ppa.launchpad.net that's the problem
[11:39] <tatertots> disable v6 like suggested above...then retry
[11:40] <Dynetrekk> hi, what's the correct incantation to enable python3.7 with pip and venv on ubuntu:bionic? asking for a friend, eh, docker container
[11:40] <badcloud_> I think it worked finally :)
[11:40] <badcloud_> No need to disable v6
[11:42] <tomreyn> someone235: do you monitor its temperatures, though? if the cpu gets hot it may need to get throttled and this doesn't mean the enclosure will get hot
[12:03] <HiddenDjinn> dumb question, isn't there a tool you can download to make mail setup somewhat automated, using postfix and referencing a mysql or postgresql database to handle email accounts?
[12:05] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:23] <Dynetrekk> HiddenDjinn I don't know any of those systems, but I use ansible for automated setup with apt-install, templating a config file, etc
[12:24] <someone235> tomreyn, it's 60C
[12:24] <Dynetrekk> someone235 rpi?
[12:26] <mrsideways> is there a way to make ubuntu boot a chroot for all users?
[12:26] <Dynetrekk> mrsideways why? security?
[12:27] <mrsideways> like I have a rpi, and I have an external hdd that is fast, I have ubuntu server installed and want to use the HDD which is MUCH faster than sd card
[12:27] <mrsideways> Dynetrekk, ^
[12:27] <Dynetrekk> mrsideways I think there's a project that boots from the SD card then runs a linux distro off of usb storage
[12:27] <mrsideways> Dynetrekk, is it ubuntu?
[12:28] <Dynetrekk> mrsideways no personal experience but here's a link that I think will work for you https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-install-multiple-oses-on-a-single-sd-card-for-raspberry-pi/
[12:28] <Dynetrekk> (the HDD case is explicitly covered at the bottom)
[12:28] <mrsideways> thanks, i'll look at that
[12:28] <mrsideways> :D
[12:29] <Dynetrekk> mrsideways no there's a separate "multiboot" project and it will let you boot e.g. raspbian,ubuntu, whatever. You might want to use raspbian as it's got the best support, in my experience, on the rpi hw
[12:30] <mrsideways> are the raspian repos as good as ubuntu? main reason I use ubuntu is it has the best repos
[12:39] <Dynetrekk> mrsideways debian and ubuntu are very similar, mostly based of the same stuff (both use apt and partly the same code/repos)
[12:39] <mrsideways> oh okay
[12:39] <Dynetrekk> mrsideways personally I use mostly ubuntu, but sometimes raspbian on rpi
[12:40] <Dynetrekk> I mostly don't notice the differences
[12:40] <Dynetrekk> of course it may depend on your exact use case
[12:40] <mrsideways> my use case is simple, I wish to run i2p and znc so I can connect to i2p irc
[12:40] <mrsideways> so i just need openjdk really
[12:41] <mrsideways> but i feel comfortable with ubuntu, as I use it daily
[12:41] <Dynetrekk> ok, anyway using the boot-from-SD-then-HDD approach should anyway work for both ubuntu and raspbian, you can even multiboot
[12:41] <Dynetrekk> have 2 OSes and choose at boot
[13:12] <[bma]> Anyone here able to help with a Landscape issue? We're testing landscape (on prem) before rolling it out to our estate - I have setup 2 servers to monitor, one 18.04 and one 16.04 to test with. Everything works fine on the 18.04, but on the 16.04 box activities sit "In Progress"/delivered, but the activity never actually runs. I cannot see anything in any log files which refers to an error, and communication between the server and
[13:12] <[bma]>  client seems to be fine (i.e. it's being marked as delivered, ping tests show up)
[13:13] <[bma]> The job never errors, it just sits as "in progress"
[13:15] <[bma]> This only seems to affect any activities relating to packages. E.g. if i send a restart job, that happens within a couple of minutes
[13:18] <[bma]> I see this when running a local apt update on the machine in question...  "The repository 'file:/var/lib/landscape/client/package/binaries ./ Release' does not have a Release file." which seems to be related to this... https://bugs.launchpad.net/landscape-client/+bug/1735100
[13:18] <[bma]> But again, why does the activity not error out, and I cannot see any particular fix for that issue
[13:23] <tomreyn> [bma]: try #ubuntu-server
[13:24] <tomreyn> there may only be commercial support available for it, though
[13:24] <tomreyn> (we're mostly volunteers on irc)
[13:24] <[bma]> Yep, I know - we're a small academic dept and I was asking more if anyone else has experienced the same issue :)
[13:28] <merliner> Greetings. I'm working on a situation with apparmor profiled for thunderbird installed by snap. Perhaps there's a better channel (or two) for this, in which case the referral would be appreciated. Essentially, apparmor creates a log entry for a profile "snap.thunderbird.thunderbird" which I cannot find and therefore not inspect. What is suggested for best server/channels for snap and for apparmor?
[13:30] <tomreyn> [bma]: looking at this bug report, which is a duplicate report of a bug marked fixed in bionic (18.04) but not xenial (16.04), suggests you may need to file another bug report to have this also fixed in xenial.
[13:30] <tomreyn> unless software is not fully updated, yet, i'd ensure this first of all
[13:31] <tomreyn> adding [trusted] to the apt source shoould work around it
[14:08] <FrankyGov> heya
[14:18] <FrankyGov> dear all
[14:18] <FrankyGov> I am trying to set a host-only interface on Virtualbox 6.1 on Ubuntu 18.04
[14:19] <mrsideways> ask your question:D
[14:19] <FrankyGov> I get this error: Failed to save host network interface parameter.
[14:19] <FrankyGov> NS_ERROR_NOT_IMPLEMENTED (0x80004001)
[14:23] <tomreyn> not implmeneted is not implmented
[14:28] <FrankyGov> tomreyn, my apology for the ignorance. I just performed the installation through apt. Is there any module that I had to be added?
[14:30] <tomreyn> FrankyGov: you mean like a kernel module? no, it should come with virtualbox. i don't think there is virtualbox 6.1 in ubuntu 18.04, though. if something doesn't work with the upstream builds you'll best talk to them directly (as i notice you did).
[14:32] <pragmaticenigma> !info virtualbox bionic
[14:39] <FrankyGov> tomreyn, In fact with version 5 it's fine
[14:40] <tomreyn> ok
[14:40] <FrankyGov> tomreyn, I reinstalled the previous version to verify whether it worked or not
[14:54] <mrsideways> does anyone know how to change the browser hexchat opens links in?
[14:54] <mrsideways> my default browser is chromium but hexchat, and only hexchat open them in firefox
[15:00] <pragmaticenigma> mrsideways: check that "sudo update-alternatives --config gnome-www-browser" and "sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser" are set to your preferred browser
[15:01] <mrsideways> thanks pragmaticenigma. i will try that
[15:07] <G226> Hello, Is something up with Ubuntu 19.10 and using a VPN? It doesn't seem to be able to resolve hostnames/DNS correctly. (Trying to switch to using Ubuntu for work and I need to use a vpn to access internal machines)
[15:07] <G226> I looked around for fixes but most were for 18.10 and 17.10 it looked like
[15:10] <G226> I saw suggestions to edit the “[ipv4]” section of NetworkManager/system-connections/myvpnconnectioname and add "dns-priority=-1" but that didn't work even with a restart
[15:10] <tatertots> G226: are you chatting from the computer right now?
[15:11] <G226> Yes
[15:12] <tatertots> G226: the issue you're having should be looked at with some detail, because if you weren't able to resolve names in general as a blanket statement you wouldn't be able to surf web pages or join IRC
[15:12] <pragmaticenigma> G226: It is likely that you need to contact the help desk of the VPN provider/your employer. They are probably settings that automatically get pushed to the Windows client, that you have to manually set for Ubuntu. The help desk for whomever manages your VPN will have to assist you
[15:12] <tatertots> G226: so it's more likely you're having issues resolving "certain" names, wouldn't you agree?
[15:12] <zetheroo> is there a command which will show me all the apps/services/commands which are started up on user login?
[15:13] <G226> tatertots and pragmaticenigma I'll be more specific, Anything on the internal network the VPN would normally let me resolve, doesn't get resolved as far as hostnames. Anything outside of the VPN is still resolvable as normal like like would be with my home connection
[15:13] <G226> I can also ping the direct IP addresses of a couple machines, but not say ping their hostname
[15:14] <G226> It's like the Network manager/vpn built into Ubuntu isn't using the vpn's DNS, it's still using my home DNS maybe?
[15:14] <pragmaticenigma> G226: Again, that is because the VPN host isn't pushing DNS settings for the VPN... The help desk for the VPN provider is the only person that can help you
[15:14] <tatertots> G226: if you mean resolve names of corporate systems, that's to be expected since all the computers in the office are also using internal corporate DSN servers on the corporate domain
[15:15] <G226> Yeh, they're no help unfortunately even though Ubuntu is now approved, I asked
[15:15] <tatertots> G226: and computers outside of the corporate office(s) aren't using the DNS server on the corporate domain
[15:15] <pragmaticenigma> G226: We can't help you with your employers issue. If they don't have the knowledge.. then they really don't support it, and you should be using what they know and understand
[15:16] <pragmaticenigma> zetheroo: "systemctl list-units" will return a listing of all the services and their status. Any that are running were likely started on boot
[15:17] <zetheroo> pragmaticenigma: hmm ... what I am really trying to get at is the entries which are in the Startup Applications tool
[15:17] <G226> alright, thanks tatertots and pragmaticenigma , I did try back in Ubuntu 17 and the VPN worked just fine without having to do anything special or anything from helpdesk etc
[15:18] <G226> Do you think it might be the switch from using resolvconf ?
[15:18] <pragmaticenigma> G226: There's probably a step that you missed on the setup
[15:19] <pragmaticenigma> zetheroo: User config stuff like that would be somewhere in your $HOME/.config folder
[15:19] <tatertots> G226: you most likely don't have administrative control over the VPN , but if you did you could try to manually add the corp DNS servers before/after connecting
[15:20] <G226> It's nothing special, just open VPN Settings --> Network --> VPN --> + To add a VPN, Choose "Cisco Any connect", Add the gateway server
[15:21] <G226> then user and pass pops up when connecting, and then it auths and logs in
[15:21] <tatertots> gateway is NOT DNS
[15:21] <G226> I know, I'm just saying what steps were taken
[15:21] <G226> DNS is on automatic
[15:21] <tatertots> i mean gateway is NOT = to DNS
[15:22] <tatertots> G226: you most likely don't have administrative control over the VPN , but if you did you could try to "MANUALLY" add the corp DNS servers before/after connecting
[15:22] <G226> I do not
[15:22] <G226> I will try adding the DNS manually vs automatic
[15:22] <G226> and brb
[15:23] <ioria> zetheroo, check ~/.config/autostart/
[15:23] <pragmaticenigma> G226: I said this earlier... the VPN isn't sending DNS... so "automatic DNS" isn't going to work... two people have just told you... you're going to have to configure that manually. Which are settings from your help desk
[15:23] <G226> yes I am trying it
[15:23] <G226> but there is no help desk for this kind of thing ;p
[15:23] <G226> brb thanks
[15:23] <zetheroo>  ioria: ah thanks!
[15:23] <ioria> ok
[15:27] <G226> Aw, Adding the internal DNS server directly into the IPV4 setting of the vpn connection didn't work
[15:27] <G226> Is there somewhere else I can add in a DNS server for a VPN if i know the address?
[15:27] <tatertots> G226: there's a #networking IRC chat room...you might wanna join
[15:28] <G226> Also, did you mean admin to my machine? I have full admin on my machine
[15:28] <G226> Okay sure, sorry
[15:28] <tatertots> G226: since it's not strictly solely a ubuntu issue...you might ruffle some feathers if you continue here
[15:32] <G226> Okay sure, I'm sure anything that yses systemd-resolved and Networkmanager would likely run into this
[15:32] <G226> Not trying to ruffle feathers D:  its just an odd issue
[15:35] <tatertots> G226: did you try to manually use the corp DNS for resolution AFTER successful VPN connection?
[15:35] <tatertots> G226: elaborate on your methodology for testing if you did
[15:46] <Katronix> Hi all, I've installed Apache on Ubuntu 16.04, lynx running locally sees the site, however remotely the connection timeouts. Any suggestions?
[15:47] <tomreyn> apache tomcat?
[15:48] <tomreyn> please pick one: https://projects.apache.org/projects.html
[15:50] <leftyfb> Katronix: remotely as in a public ip address or a local ip on the same network? I would definitely test the latter first
[15:51] <Katronix> remotely as in my computer connecting to the vps, locally as in logged into the server lynx sees it
[15:51] <leftyfb> oh, it's a VPS
[15:51] <Teikoman_fi> What could be the cause where using KVM on Ubuntu 18.04 and setting the VM interface/MAC address to match the host machine, it shows to be active just fine on the custom ipv4 but no data goes in or out?
[15:52] <Katronix> leftyfb yes, does that make a difference?
[15:52] <leftyfb> Katronix: look at any iptables/ufw rules on the host or rules through the VPS provider.
[15:53] <Katronix> leftyfb ufw has apache full allowed
[15:53] <leftyfb> Katronix: try disabling ufw completely to test
[15:56] <crissae> Is there a `mount` notation that looks like this:   <remote_hostname>:/<volume_path>   /mnt/my/local
[15:56] <Katronix> leftyfb I disabled ufw, same results
[15:56] <crissae> I can ping the <remote_hostname> and can 'kind of' check out the parts after the colon -    :/<volume_path>     and of course I can verify the /mnt/my/local
[15:57] <crissae> but I'm basing this off of a separate Kubernetes container I can shell into and am trying to unwrap it back to real-world paths so I can mount them from a separate machine (outside of k8s)
[15:58] <crissae> Ah, these are 'remote'-ish NFS shares.
[16:03] <qoob> Hello I am a new user of Ubuntu.  It would be lovely if someone could lend me a hand in a very simple matter.
[16:04] <pragmaticenigma> crissae: It sounds like your container provider has added a package that provides that functionality... to my knowledge there isn't a short form way of defining remote connection like that in a regular ubuntu install
[16:04] <merliner> qoob: please state the matter which interests you
[16:05] <pragmaticenigma> qoob: Welcome to the channel and Ubuntu. The best way to receive help here is to just start by asking your question. There is no need to ask, to ask a question :-)
[16:06] <qoob> I asked to ask a question as I am also new to this chat IRC.  If I ask it and nobody answers, will they get back to me, or do I need to periodically keep asking?
[16:07] <qoob> My question seems simple, and I just need a URL I think.  I searched it for a week.  I want to install WordPress on 19.10.  I tried via apt-get install wordpress, LAMP is working properly, custom .htm files are being served, phpinfo in a .php file works just fine.  But wp-admin is not showing up.
[16:07] <pragmaticenigma> Katronix: You Guest installs should not have the same MAC and/or IP address.  The host OS is going to intercept all of those and they will not reach the VM.
[16:08] <qoob> Something about MySQL vs MySQLi, but all the websites say simply to just install packages and it should work.  But I get this weird error.
[16:08] <qoob> I searched "mysql_connect undefined" throughly and can't find the answer.  I don't know how to turn all mysql_ statements into mysqli_ statements with sed.  it's complex.
[16:09] <Katronix> pragmaticenigma, my vps has its own IP
[16:10] <pragmaticenigma> qoob: You shouldn't need to change the source code
[16:11] <eliyahuTBR> hey guys. i'm running 	Ubuntu 18.04.3 LTS https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4YMm55dBvV/ can anyone advise me what to do?
[16:11] <Katronix> qoob may want to see if there is a newer version of the app, chances are if its using mysql_ which has been out of favor for years, its not written for PHP 7.x in other ways too
[16:12] <qoob> Katronix I read that too and it blew my mind how a confusing change with just one letter is normal.  I got the latest wordpress from the wordpress.com website though.
[16:12] <Katronix> eliyahuTBR, might check out https://tecadmin.net/install-oracle-java-8-ubuntu-via-ppa/
[16:13] <pragmaticenigma> qoob: If you didn't install wordpress from the Ubuntu repository, we unfortunately cannot help you. You should be looking for help in a WordPress specific channel or forum.
[16:13] <qoob> so latest wordpress is complaining of mysql_connect undefined.  I tried enabling mysqlnd.so and mysql.so in config.
[16:13] <qoob> repository is apt-get?
[16:13] <pragmaticenigma> correct
[16:13] <Katronix> qoob wordpress.com doesn't offer wordpress for download, wordpress.org does
[16:13] <qoob> that's what I did.  I meant official wordpress... but okay.. I will remove everything and just use apt-get like with apt-get install lamp mysql-server.
[16:13] <qoob> Katronix yes wordpress.org then.  Like I said I'm new, to me these are irrelevant details :)
[16:14] <qoob> I got it via apt-get actually.  I just meant official wordpress "place"...
[16:14] <qoob> DIdn't know all these little things mattered.  sorry.
[16:14] <eliyahuTBR> i'm trying to install oracle-java11-installer after adding apt-repository ppa:linuxuprising/java and updating but i get Reading package lists... Done
[16:14] <eliyahuTBR> Building dependency tree
[16:14] <eliyahuTBR> Reading state information... Done
[16:14] <eliyahuTBR> Package oracle-java11-installer is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[16:14] <eliyahuTBR> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[16:14] <eliyahuTBR> is only available from another source
[16:14]  * qoob is new
[16:14] <pragmaticenigma> Katronix: sorry... my comment earlier was meant for someone else... I mis-tabbed your name
[16:15] <Katronix> qoob I'd recommend just downloading it from wordpress.org its a simple php based script
[16:15] <Katronix> pragmaticenigma, ah ok
[16:15] <pragmaticenigma> Teikoman_fi: Your Guest VM installs should not have the same MAC and/or IP address.  The host OS is going to intercept all of those and they will not reach the VM.
[16:16] <pragmaticenigma> eliyahuTBR: software from PPAs are not supported here... you will need to contact the maintainer of the PPA for support.
[16:16] <qoob> Katronix haha, someone else said that, so that's what I did as well.  It's just php flat files, referencing a simple mysql database, php back end makes call to mysql, receives data, forwards to php, and it dumps into apache, and it serves the page, right?  This is how far a noob read :)
[16:16] <qoob> I will remove all and try again.
[16:17] <qoob> I read for a month about zend, too.  I tried editing mysql_connects into mysqli_connect... but there's too many
[16:17] <Katronix> qoob yep, that is pretty much all it does :)
[16:17] <qoob> my head will explode.
[16:18] <Katronix> qoob use this version, https://wordpress.org/latest.tar.gz no mysql_ in it :)
[16:18] <eliyahuTBR> when trying to execute sudo apt-get install oracle-java11-installer-local i get the following error : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7ngjKpspVp/ any suggestions on how to fix this?
[16:18] <qoob> Katronix awesome!  If I just download that, remove all I have now, and just follow basic instructions on a new 19.10, it should work, right?
[16:19] <Katronix> qoob, assuming you have apache, mysql, php properly configured yes
[16:19] <pragmaticenigma> eliyahuTBR: Again: software installed from PPAs are not supported here... you will need to contact the maintainer of the PPA for support.
[16:20] <qoob> Katronix I used apt-get install lamp mysql-server, and if I make index.php with phpinfo it works and shows mysql and all working.  I use the /var/www/html directory for the php file so I presume all is working.  Can I check any other way?
[16:20] <qoob> Katronix one last question, I owe you a beer.. :). I only need 1 MySQL account with a password for wordpress, it doesn't matter what the root credentials are right?
[16:21] <qoob> nowhere in wp-admin does it need root right?  just a special user for wordpress?
[16:21] <Katronix> qoob, you will need to make a database & database user before you can 'install' wordpress as long as the phpinfo knows about mysql you shoiuld be good.
[16:21] <Katronix> qoob do not use the root mysql user for the site
[16:21] <qoob> thank you.
[16:21] <qoob> Katronix :)
[16:21] <Katronix> qoob np
[16:23] <Katronix> qoob correction, phpinfo needs to know about mysqli not mysql :)
[16:39] <gorby> Hi there, im useing 18.04 on an Asus z97 pro gamer with an intel Wireless-AC 9260 (rev 29) wireless card (iwlwifi). When ever I do anything network heavy the driver crashes the kernel. Could some one help me install a different driver if thats available?
[16:45] <ryuo> gorby: the only driver is the kernel one.
[16:45] <ryuo> gorby: are you current on updates?
[16:46] <gorby> ryuo : yeah I think so - in the additional drivers sections it says "intel Corporation: Unknown"
[16:46] <ryuo> gorby: no, i meant the system upgrades.
[16:46] <ryuo> or updates
[16:47] <gorby> Ryuo - I think so, yes.
[16:47] <ryuo> gorby: then what kernel version?
[16:47] <gorby> ryuo : 5.3.0-26-generic
[16:47] <ryuo> ok so HWE
[16:49] <gorby> ryuo : Is there more stuff I should update?
[16:50] <ryuo> gorby: i don't know honestly. all i can suggest is trying stuff. i don't even know if you've diagnosed the issue correctly. but maybe this would help: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=201319
[16:51] <ryuo> of course if the card is socketed and your device allows using other cards you could always try swapping to another kind.
[16:51] <gorby> ryuo : from googleing Ive done it looks like other people had the same problem, but the most recent posts I saw were from last year in July or so.
[16:52] <ioria> gorby, considering that kernel ...  https://askubuntu.com/questions/1182351/19-10-big-issue-with-intel-9260ac-wifi-iwlwifi-brings-system-to-a-halt
[16:52] <ryuo> i would only advise that though if nothing else has solved the problem
[16:55] <gorby> ioria : The description of the problem seems the same at least.
[16:55] <ioria> gorby, looks like
[16:57] <oerheks> options iwlwifi power_save=0 11n_disable=1 > https://askubuntu.com/questions/1182351/19-10-big-issue-with-intel-9260ac-wifi-iwlwifi-brings-system-to-a-halt
[16:57] <oerheks> same for 18.04 lts?
[16:58] <gorby> oerheks : I havent tried the solutions that person posted, but I have the issue on 18.04 Lts (I havent tried 19.04)
[16:59] <gorby> oerheks : In a lot of posts people thought it might also be a problem with secure booting, but I disabled that and reinstalled, the issue is persistent.
[16:59] <compdoc> gorby, is this a fresh install?
[16:59] <gorby> compdoc, yes, today.
[17:00] <compdoc> what if you booted the latest version live from usb stick? see if the problem still exists?
[17:01] <compdoc> might even try the latest 18.04 running from usb
[17:03] <gorby> compdoc : yeah, Ill try that 19.04 on a stick - not sure how 18.04 would be different apart from eliminateing other potential issues?
[17:03] <gorby> compdoc : 18.04 on a stick* sorry.
[17:04] <compdoc> yeah. it might eliminate issues like a corrupted install. drives can fail
[17:05] <mohnish> Hello everyone! I'm using Ubuntu MATE 19.10, I have a USB wifi adapter, and I'd like to create a wifi network using it (like a hotspot), such that I can use that network to connect my phone to the wifi network I created. Is there any way I can do that?
[17:05] <gorby> compdoc : I bought this SSD today :) Had a 4 year old segate fail last night =/
[17:05] <eliyahuTBR> Thanks pragmaticenigma. just saw your answer now.
[17:05] <compdoc> ssds are great
[17:05] <mohnish> yeah, I use an ssd too
[17:05] <compdoc> but they can fail too
[17:06] <subfj> if you are trying to scan to a network folder from your printer and the shared folder is on your ubuntu machine, what am i missing other than sharing the folder?
[17:06] <gorby> compdoc : apparently the segate that I had (pulled from an enclosure was really prone to failure) but maybe the recent install and all the kernel panics tipped it over the edge..
[17:06] <mohnish> compdoc, I use an ssd for my os and hdd to store my data in it
[17:06] <ioria> gorby, you don't want 19.04
[17:07] <mohnish> BTW, can anyone help me?
[17:07] <compdoc> My system boots from a very fast nvme drive, and all other drives are ssds, except for a few raidz arrays I have
[17:07] <shibboleth> speaking of 19.04
[17:08] <gorby> ioria : No, Id rather not use it. But I guess it could be usefull to see if the issue has been cured.
[17:08] <shibboleth> is it final, ubuntu-server will no longer be offered with the debian installer?
[17:08] <ioria> gorby, i mean, is dead
[17:08] <mohnish> http://dpaste.com/2Q4XZPY       <--------
[17:08] <gorby> ioria : Ah right, I guess i meant 19.10, sry.
[17:08] <ioria> ok
[17:09] <gorby> ID just rather stick to LTS
[17:09] <mohnish> gorby, good idea
[17:10] <mohnish> gorby: You might also want to try timeshift
[17:10] <mohnish> to backup and restore your system
[17:11] <gorby> Mohnish : Thanks, Im not really going to do much to this system if I cant get past all the network crashing ^^
[17:12] <mohnish> oh, okay
[17:12] <gorby> This install, rather.
[17:13] <mohnish> I would definitely recommend it to anyone, though, it just saved my system today,I had messed it up bad
[17:13] <mohnish> but, I saved it using timeshift from a live system
[17:13] <gorby> Thanks :) I dont even have any of my data drives or other SSD's plugged in while im trying to sort this though.
[17:14] <mohnish> oh, okay
[17:15] <mohnish> Well, would you help me? http://dpaste.com/2Q4XZPY
[17:20] <gorby> mohnish - Its certainly possible :) But Im not really up to date on linux wifi stuff myself. Your question should probably be a bit more specific too. Like, what are you trying share on the hotspot?
[17:21] <mohnish> I wanna connect my phone to it, so that I can share files between my phone and my pc, without using a cable
[17:21] <gorby> Mohnish : cant you go through another network they both have access to?
[17:22] <subcool> Ok. im sure its a stupid question. But- its beginning to bug me. I cant find any resolutions on google. I have a pair of bluetooth headphones that HAD an audio profile. - It went missing  - AGAIN. I had to install an OS to get it back. I've seen a couple ways to fix it on Debian, but they didnt work. Now im here, and its pretty much the same thing. wth?
[17:24] <ryuo> subcool: welcome to the wonderful world of bluetooth audio. it's a crapshoot everywhere it seems like.
[17:25] <ryuo> subcool: though, have you tried checking if the bluetooth versions are compatible?
[17:26] <subcool> nope...
[17:26] <subcool> it seems to be a common issue- that that has answer
[17:27] <subcool> whcih usually means for me, is an easy fix. But== i should just know about it.
[17:27] <subcool> so- ... kinda stuck
[17:39] <Areador> hi, i have a question regarding ubuntu upgrade and ppas. what happens to ppas when you upgrade to the development version or to a newer release?
[17:42] <hggdh> Areador: in general, they can become unusable because they do not have packages for the devel release. They *will* get disabled on upgrade, anyway.
[17:44] <pragmaticenigma> Areador: you will also see a message stating that repositories will be disabled because they are not compatible with the new version
[17:46] <gorby> In the "software and updates - additional drivers section" why would it list my wireless card if its only ever been useing the default drivers?
[17:47] <absentabyss> Hello, I'm running lubuntu from a pendrive (not live CD), is there a way to install a lubuntu from this install without having to format my pendrive to a liveCD?
[17:47] <gorby> the only option avaible there is "continue useing manually installed driver" - but, to my knowledge i never installed anytyhing.
[17:48] <Areador> ok for example i have wine-staging 5.0 installed, i upgrade my system 1 week before release. so the ppa is going to be disabled? ... does that mean i have to add the newer ppa of 20.04 when it is released?
[17:48] <pragmaticenigma> absentabyss: there should be an icon on the desktop to install Lubuntu
[17:49] <absentabyss> that would be the case on a liveCD
[17:49] <mycrap> https://pastebin.com/v8d3fecz..........my usb is a mess and cannot delete the partitions and join as one. Have tried GParted, Disk, and FDisk in the terminal.
[17:49] <ioria> Areador, with caution  : https://www.linuxuprising.com/2019/01/ubuntu-users-can-now-keep-ppas-and.html
[17:49] <pragmaticenigma> absentabyss: the same image is used to make a live cd and/or USB drive
[17:50] <pragmaticenigma> absentabyss: if it is not there.. .then I'm not sure how you made your live boot drive
[17:50] <absentabyss> pragmaticenigma to make my question more general, is there a way to install Ubuntu from an existing Ubuntu installation onto a plugged external device?
[17:50] <pragmaticenigma> absentabyss: No, there is not
[17:51] <absentabyss> pragmaticenigma ok thank you :)
[17:52] <jollylol> hello guys, ive installed 19.10 on an old macbook pro 5, 4 (mid 2009). I need some help with an issue where if i close the lid, the system just dies, as in its still on (as i have to manually shut down the system to recover) but i cannot wake it back up. Has anyone experience with this device?
[17:53] <Areador> ioria: ok, so it i possiblem, but it is recommended to upgrade ubuntu when its released, right?
[17:54] <ioria> Areador, yes ....
[17:54] <Areador> ok thank you for this information!
[17:54] <ioria> no prob
[17:55] <mycrap> How to deleat stubern partitions on a usb?
[17:55] <absentabyss> if I were to create an image of a storage device, then format that device, and then restore it, am I guaranteed to have exactly the same files?
[17:56] <absentabyss> let's imagine i create an image of a storage device that has Ubuntu in it, then format it to 0, then restore it, would the Ubuntu installation be unaffected?
[17:56] <pragmaticenigma> absentabyss: That is the purpose of a backup... however, if you should verify that your back up succeeded before removing the original data
[17:57] <absentabyss> pragmaticenigma does the image (created via gnome disk utility) serve as a backup?
[17:57] <pragmaticenigma> absentabyss: I don't trust those tool
[17:58] <absentabyss> pragmaticenigma: what would you suggest?
[17:58] <pragmaticenigma> absentabyss: I'm not familiar with them either. I use Clonezilla to create disk images, as I don't believe you can create an accurate disk image while the disk is actively mounted on the machine
[17:58] <absentabyss> nah, it can be unmounted
[17:58] <absentabyss> I don't need to have it mounted
[17:59] <absentabyss> in that case would you trust gnome-disk
[18:00] <pragmaticenigma> The disk imaging tool I'm familiar with is the one I mentioned previously
[18:00] <pragmaticenigma> I've never experienced a failure, and it conviently verifies the backup before it finishes
[18:00] <absentabyss> pragmaticenigma: Okay thanks, I'll give that a look
[18:01] <mycrap> Please, need help formatting a USB,  I am getting "Permission Denied"
[18:01] <mycrap> https://pastebin.com/v8d3fecz
[18:02] <pragmaticenigma> !patience | mycrap
[18:03] <oerheks> interesting pastebin, not sure what to read there?
[18:04] <oerheks> open disks, unmount that usb, and format it?
[18:08] <Phruis`> so in gnome an application wont let me add it as a favorite and when i add it from the apps menu it then shows another icon
[18:09] <mycrap> oerheks: did not work
[18:10] <pragmaticenigma> Phruis`: The volunteers are going to need more information. What application? Did you install the application as a Snap? What are the different icons? Have you tried right clicking on the icon to see if you can change it's properties?
[18:11] <SimonNL> mycrap, like I said in ##linuxmint    use gparted to remove the partitions then format
[18:11] <Phruis`> pragmaticenigma, its zeal
[18:12] <oerheks> oh mint..
[18:12] <SimonNL> not sure
[18:12] <SimonNL> it's hiscrap
[18:13] <mycrap> SimonNL that is not working.   I'm using gdm3 as my login manager.
[18:22] <ioria> why if xubuntu uses lightdm ?
[18:23] <johnfg> That's what the first choice was, at install, gdm3.  Do you think that lightdm is better?
[18:24] <imbezol> i upgraded a server from 16.04 to 18.04. the service ifup@eth1 is failing to load. it's failing on the line "pre-up iptables-restore < /etc/iptables.rules". looking at the line it fails on, it's the COMMIT. i've done an iptables-save > /etc/iptables.rules and it saves and can load fine. yet on boot it fails again
[18:25] <imbezol> "Jan 27 11:13:38 moat sh[701]: iptables-restore: line 56 failed
[18:25] <imbezol> seems odd
[18:25] <Phruis`> ioria, yeah i am
[18:25] <mohnish> Someone pls help me: http://dpaste.com/2Q4XZPY
[18:26] <eelstrebor> why doesn't flatpak see that an app is already installed?
[18:27] <ioria> Phruis`, the difference might be that 18.04 uses a simple zeal.desktop and 19.10 has a org.zealdocs.Zeal.desktop, idk; what i can suggest is to backup that file in /usr/share/applications and create a new one under /home/user/.local/share/applications
[18:27] <Phruis`> ioria, i see thanks for the tips
[18:28] <eelstrebor> and when flatpak is used to  install an app it doesn't show up in synaptic as installed?
[18:29] <Phruis`> eelstrebor, think the systems do not communicate.
[18:29] <tomreyn> johnfg: i'm not sure whether lightdm or gdm should work better with xubuntu, maybe channel #xubuntu can advise on this. generally i'd assume that either can work. did you install updates, yet, and does light-locker still crash then?
[18:29] <Phruis`> eelstrebor, the gnome software center shows both though
[18:32] <tomreyn> mohnish: it's fine (and better) to just ask shorter questions here on the channel directly. using network manager and a wireless chipset which supports AP mode (and suitable driver support) on Linux you should be able to setup an AP easily.
[18:32] <johnfg> tomreyn: I actually installed the xfce desktop for 19.10 server, but I did it as xubuntu-desktop.
[18:32] <johnfg> tomreyn: And yes, all updates (including today's) are installed.
[18:33] <mohnish> tomreyn, what's an AP?
[18:35] <johnfg> If I want to switch to lightdm, how should I do that?  Install lightdm first, choose it for my logins, then remove gdm3?
[18:36] <tomreyn> mohnish: access point. assuming your wireless device is called "wifi0" you could setup a hotspot like this:  nmcli dev wifi0 hotspot ifname wlp4s0 ssid test password "test1234"
[18:37] <mohnish> tomreyn, is there not an option for hotspot in settings?
[18:38] <tomreyn> johnfg: logout, switch to a !tty , sudo apt install lightdm && sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[18:38] <johnfg> Lost my connection there.  install lightdm, then to the dpkg-reconfigure gdm3 (if it doesn't come up during the install)?
[18:38] <johnfg> tomreyn: Ah, ok, we crossed, but I'll do what you said.
[18:38] <tomreyn> yes
[18:39] <tomreyn> either approach should be fine, john
[18:39] <tomreyn> mohnish: there should be, yes
[18:39] <johnfg> ttyl!  Thanks for the help!  brb
[18:40] <tomreyn> mohnish: try with nm-connection-editor
[18:41] <mohnish> I tried this tomreyn, https://imgur.com/a/p0pkZ7q
[18:41] <mohnish> what should I select for mode?
[18:42] <mohnish> hotspot, right?
[18:42] <tomreyn> looks good.
[18:45] <mohnish> tomreyn, this is what I get https://imgur.com/a/zBxMHir
[18:45] <johnfg> k, after a reboot, it seems like choosing lightdm has taken care of the problem, i.e., it must have been gdm3 calling light-locker.  lightdm was already installed.
[18:45] <johnfg> question: is there any reason I should keep gdm3 or light-locker?  Or should I remove them both?
[18:47] <tomreyn> mohnish: so you can't run an access point with this device / its drivers
[18:47] <mohnish> so, that means I can't do it??
[18:48] <tomreyn> mohnish: not using this hardware and driver, correct.
[18:48] <mohnish> If it's a driver problem, can you tell me how I can install a new driver?
[18:49] <tomreyn> which new driver are you referring to? which hardware is it?
[18:49] <tomreyn> lspci -knn | grep -EA3 '(Network|Ethernet) controller' | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:50] <mohnish_> tomreyn: I just joined using my pc
[18:51] <mohnish_> can you resend that command, please
[18:51] <johnfg> tomreyn: What do you think about removing those programs?
[18:54] <mohnish_> tomreyn: Never mind, I just typed it, here's the output: https://termbin.com/qyomr
[19:05] <tomreyn> mohnish_: hmm looks like your wireless is not listed there. is this a usb connected wireless?
[19:05] <mohnish_> tomreyn: yes
[19:06] <mohnish_> tomreyn: USB wifi adapter
[19:06] <tomreyn> johnfg: it's safe to remove what you don't need, as you can always reinstall those packages later
[19:06] <tomreyn> mohnish_: i think most of those don't work for hotspot mode. does "lsusb" list it?
[19:07] <mohnish_> tomreyn: Bus 001 Device 002: ID 148f:7601 Ralink Technology, Corp. MT7601U Wireless Adapter
[19:08] <mohnish_> it does show my adapter in lsusb
[19:08] <SimonNL> iw list    "Supported interface modes:"     needs to show AP  mohnish_
[19:10] <mohnish_> SimonNL: iw list output: http://dpaste.com/0ENBB61
[19:10] <SimonNL> Supported interface modes:		 * managed		 * monitor
[19:10] <SimonNL> no AP there
[19:11] <mohnish_> so...what should I do to add AP there?
[19:11] <SimonNL> you can't afaik
[19:12] <mohnish_> but it says (can always be added)
[19:12] <SimonNL> https://git.io/Jvm1d   here's what my simple usb dongle shows mohnish_
[19:13] <mohnish_> how is yours so big?
[19:14] <SimonNL> software interface modes (can always be added):		 * monitor
[19:14] <SimonNL> probably already done
[19:14] <mohnish_> SimonNL: oh, yes I see
[19:14] <mohnish_> SimonNL: So, is there no way?
[19:15] <mohnish_> SimonNL: I still have the driver CD the adapter came with
[19:15] <mohnish_> It has linux drivers in it
[19:15] <SimonNL> well go for it
[19:15] <b3h3m0th> How do get to know the PID of the local process that is connecting to my local TCP port?
[19:16] <kaleido> lsof |grep TCP ?
[19:16] <mohnish_> SimonNL: it's a .tar.bz2 file
[19:17] <al2o3-cr> b3h3m0th: ss -tp
[19:17] <SimonNL> mohnish_, user manual ?
[19:18] <oerheks> double click that archive, fileroller will open
[19:18] <mohnish_> yes, I extracted it too
[19:18] <johnfg> tomreyn: Thanks!
[19:18] <oerheks> one better check the vendor website, drivercd might be old
[19:18]  * b3h3m0th kaleido:  al2o3-cr: those tell me all the processes that are bound to tcp ports on the machine. But what I want is, which process is the client which connected to a port
[19:18] <b3h3m0th> kaleido:  al2o3-cr: those tell me all the processes that are bound to tcp ports on the machine. But what I want is, which process is the client which connected to a port
[19:19] <b3h3m0th> I want the process which did `connect`, not `bind` or `listen`
[19:19] <b3h3m0th> Given that it's a local process on the same machine using the loopback interface
[19:19] <tomreyn> mohnish_: this patched vendor driver https://github.com/muratdemirtas/MT7601u claims to support AP mode. but it's old, would likely no longer build against current kernels.
[19:20] <mohnish_> tomreyn, SimonNL, these are the contents of the archive https://pasteboard.co/IRWKxDs.png
[19:21] <mohnish_> tomreyn: So, should I try it?
[19:21] <tomreyn> says "image not found" for me
[19:21] <tomreyn> !screenshot
[19:23] <mohnish_> tomreyn: https://imgur.com/a/8M4aRVt
[19:24] <tomreyn> heh ok, so you posted a screen shot of a graphical file manager
[19:24] <tomreyn> https://github.com/Anthony96922/mt7601u-ap is another AP driver, looks better than the other
[19:24] <b3h3m0th> kaleido:  al2o3-cr: any idea mate?
[19:25] <mohnish_> tomreyn: where do you find these??
[19:25] <SimonNL> :)
[19:25] <SimonNL> doesn't https:// give it away
[19:26] <mohnish_> SimonNL: I'm sorry, what?
[19:26] <SimonNL> nm mohnish_
[19:26] <mohnish_> ok
[19:27] <oerheks> b3h3m0th, start wit that lsof line, what is the output? or sudo netstat -nlp # then lsof -i tcp:<PID>  or fuser <pid>/tcp
[19:27] <oerheks> there is no easy one command to give answer
[19:27] <tomreyn> mohnish_: web search for "linux" && "MT7601U" && ( "access point" || "hotspot" )
[19:28]  * b3h3m0th oerheks: I think  you didn't understand the problem.
[19:28] <b3h3m0th> oerheks: I think  you didn't understand the problem.
[19:29] <mohnish_> tomreyn: Holy...sh*t, so it searches for whatever's in ""?
[19:29] <oerheks> "How do get to know the PID of the local process that is connecting to my local TCP port?" is clear to me
[19:29] <tomreyn> b3h3m0th: lso -s can filter connection states
[19:30] <tomreyn> * lsof -s
[19:30] <tomreyn> !man
[19:30] <b3h3m0th> pid-X: nc -l 1337;    pid-Y: nc <IP_ADDRESS> 1337.  I want to get pid-Y tomreyn  oerheks, not PID-X
[19:30] <tomreyn> b3h3m0th: i understood so much
[19:31] <tomreyn> mohnish_: i don't understand what you mean by this. and please !language
[19:31] <mohnish_> tomreyn: okay, sorry
[19:32] <b3h3m0th> I tried many lsof-fu but didn't find a way to do this
[19:32] <mohnish_> tomreyn: so, what is github?
[19:33] <b3h3m0th> lsof -nPi tcp:39064
[19:33] <b3h3m0th> ss -nraepst|grep 39064
[19:33] <b3h3m0th> netstat -anlp|grep 39064
[19:33] <tomreyn> mohnish_: not really a topic of ubuntu support. please search the web
[19:33] <b3h3m0th> These are some of the commands I tried
[19:34] <mohnish_> ok
[19:34] <subcool> Ok. im sure its a stupid question. But- its beginning to bug me. I cant find any resolutions on google. I have a pair of bluetooth headphones that HAD an audio profile. - It went missing  - AGAIN. I had to install an OS to get it back. I've seen a couple ways to fix it on Debian, but they didnt work. Now im here, and its pretty much the same thing. wth?
[19:35] <b3h3m0th> oerheks: I mean, your answer seems to be the correct solution to a different problem altogether, that is which is the process bound to and listening to the port
[19:39] <al2o3-cr> b3h3m0th: ss -atp state established 'sport = :1337'
[19:40] <b3h3m0th> It's too elite to not work, lemme try
[19:40] <tomreyn> sport is source port, i would think
[19:40] <al2o3-cr> tomreyn: yup
[19:42] <tomreyn> i think b3h3m0th is looking ofr a list of (locally running) clients (and their PIDs) which have connected to a given local ip:port
[19:42] <b3h3m0th> I know the connection is time_wait in my case (based on netstat output on the binding port) but.. ss: wrong state name: TIME_WAIT :o
[19:42] <b3h3m0th> nevermind, s/_/-
[19:43] <JustLandedOnMars> any suggestion of ftp server ?
[19:43] <b3h3m0th> No luck :(
[19:43] <JustLandedOnMars> is vsftpd the best ?
[19:43] <b3h3m0th> tomreyn: yes, that's what I am looking for
[19:43] <makr8100> JustLandedOnMars: imo yes, vsftpd
[19:44] <tomreyn> b3h3m0th: so you're not looking for source ports then
[19:44] <makr8100> subjective answer of course
[19:45] <b3h3m0th> correct tomreyn
[19:45] <tomreyn> JustLandedOnMars: i'd say don't use ftp in 2020 if you don't have a very specific use case.
[19:45] <JustLandedOnMars> all I need is to watch videos on tablet from PC, right now I use "thttpd" but it has file limit of 2GB, so it doesn't even shows bigger files in list, so I think switching to "ftp" instead
[19:45] <b3h3m0th> which is why I just now tried with dport instead
[19:45] <b3h3m0th> It shows the connection, but does not detect the PID of the client :(
[19:45] <b3h3m0th> Similar to the result I got in `ss -nraepst`
[19:45] <JustLandedOnMars> or should I just use "lighttpd" instead of "thttpd" ?
[19:45] <b3h3m0th> whoa! that almost sounded like rapist
[19:47] <b3h3m0th> My last resort would be to iterate over /proc fs for all PIDs but I really hope it doesn't have to be that convoluted
[19:47] <b3h3m0th> If I write a kernel module for this task, that will be overkill for sure I suppose
[19:47] <tomreyn> JustLandedOnMars: personally i'd prefer sftp or http, yes.
[19:48] <b3h3m0th> How come this is not a use case someone else did not come across before me!
[19:55] <kreyren> How do you install docker on ubuntu? http://dpaste.com/3J1VQEB
[19:56] <kreyren> apt install docker doesn't work
[19:56] <Nyle> find / -name docker -type f 2>/dev/null
[19:56] <Nyle> what is this?
[19:57] <Nyle> Why are you redirecting to trash, you won't see the output of find then.
[19:57] <kreyren> me trying to find the executable from docker/now -1.5-2
[19:57] <Nyle> How do you expect to see the output if you redirect to null?
[19:57] <subcool> i stand corrected - BOTH my BT audio profiles are missing now.
[19:57] <subcool> seriously - wtf
[19:57] <al2o3-cr> ss -atp state established 'dport = :1337' # why doesn't this work b3h3m0th?
[19:57] <kreyren> Nyle, because it's searching /proc etc.. on non-root that outputs trash in sterr
[19:57] <Nyle> Do you have permission to install packages on the system?
[19:57] <subcool> IS this fixed int he new Ubuntu LTS? or is it simply a joke to consider the NEW Revision WORKING
[19:57] <kreyren> Nyle, limited permission -> requires rebuilding of docker image
[19:58] <subcool> This issue seems to go as far back as Kubuntu14 - 14!!!!!!!
[19:58] <kreyren> this is ubuntu-19.04 in docker
[19:58] <Nyle> Sorory, I don't support non LTS
[19:58] <Nyle> So sorry
[19:58] <kreyren> this is LTS afaik
[19:58] <Nyle> Reason: I do not use anything but LTS
[19:58] <Nyle> Are you certain?
[19:58] <Nyle> after a year?
[19:58] <b3h3m0th> al2o3-cr: oh it works, it shows the connection stats, but just not the PID which is what I want
[19:58] <Nyle> 18.04 was the last one. Next one is 2020, not 2019
[19:59] <Nyle> The next Ubuntu LTS release will be Ubuntu 20.04, which is planned to be released on April, 2020
[19:59] <al2o3-cr> b3h3m0th: it should do with the -p flag
[19:59] <Nyle> Since I do not use non LTS releases, I cannot support them. I will only end up probably screweing your system up more.
[19:59] <hggdh> kreyren: 18.04 is LTS. 19.04 actually ended support a few days ago
[19:59] <Nyle> Good luck.
[19:59]  * kreyren doesn't understand the mindfork of ubuntu releases he just wants a hugging docker working
[20:00] <b3h3m0th> Yeah I was expecting that, but it's not
[20:00] <Nyle> I understand that. I have no experience with non LTS releases, hence I do not know what to do.
[20:00] <b3h3m0th> # ss -atp 'dport = :46630'
[20:00] <b3h3m0th> State      Recv-Q Send-Q                                                                                Local Address:Port                                                                                Peer Address:Port
[20:00] <b3h3m0th> TIME-WAIT  0      0                                                                                ::ffff:<IP_ADDRESS>:http                                                                                ::ffff:<IP_ADDRESS>:46630
[20:00] <kreyren> Nyle, if this was LTS what would you suggest
[20:00] <pragmaticenigma> kreyren: If your working within a docker instance, you need to find support for whom ever built that docker image. We can't support docker images here
[20:00] <kreyren> pragmaticenigma, i built it
[20:00] <tomreyn> !paste | b3h3m0th
[20:00] <Nyle> pragmaticenigma: he can't seem to find docker binary on the system to be able to run it.
[20:00] <kreyren> pragmaticenigma, from ubuntu docker image provided by ubuntu..
[20:00] <tomreyn> b3h3m0th: i'm sure we told you before about pasting
[20:00]  * b3h3m0th Okay, sorry for that. I thought there must be some LoC tolerance for paste
[20:01] <b3h3m0th> tomreyn: I don't recall sorry
[20:01] <b3h3m0th> Okay, sorry for that. I thought there must be some LoC tolerance for paste
[20:01] <Nyle> kreyren: dpkg -L docker says what?
[20:01] <Nyle> kreyren: dpkg -L docker |grep bin
[20:02] <tomreyn> b3h3m0th: i still don't understand why you don't just use lsof as suggested here half an hour ago.
[20:02] <b3h3m0th> tomreyn: of course I did lsof
[20:02] <al2o3-cr> b3h3m0th: ss --version # what does this output
[20:02] <kreyren> Nyle, http://ix.io/28wf
[20:02]  * b3h3m0th ss utility, iproute2-ss160111
[20:03] <Nyle> kreyren: if you use dpkg -L you can list the files installed from that pakcages, grep for bin to see where the binary is located, then you can try to directly run that
[20:03] <kreyren> Nyle, which package then provides the expected docker ?
[20:03] <Nyle> 'docker' iirc
[20:03] <b3h3m0th> tomreyn: I think you're misunderstanding the problem for a different popular problem.
[20:03] <Nyle> docker-ce
[20:04] <Nyle> This is ubuntu 18.04 keep inmind
[20:04] <kreyren> what's docker-ce?
[20:04] <Nyle> package names could change in distros
[20:04] <Nyle> docker-ce - Docker: the open-source application container engine
[20:04] <Nyle> 'Community edition?' perhaps?
[20:04] <Nyle> I don't know what ce stands for.
[20:04] <Nyle> container engine?
[20:05] <tomreyn> b3h3m0th: i explained what was my interpretation of what you wanted, you confirmed it.
[20:05] <b3h3m0th> Oh okay.. lsof did't help then..
[20:06] <tomreyn> b3h3m0th: i tested it here, works fine
[20:06] <kreyren> Nyle,  docker-ce doesn't have an installation candidate.. i will use the upstream repo then
[20:06] <b3h3m0th> Could you pastebin me how the output looks like?
[20:06]  * b3h3m0th is using pastebin as a common noun
[20:06] <tomreyn> b3h3m0th: they way i ran it it only returned two PIDs
[20:07] <tomreyn> one per line
[20:09] <b3h3m0th> tomreyn: I tried again : `lsof -P|grep 48254` no output at all
[20:10] <b3h3m0th> `netstat -anlp|grep 48254` is showing output without PID
[20:12] <Nyle> kreyren: https://docs.docker.com/install/linux/docker-ce/ubuntu/
[20:12] <subcool> Nyle i have no idea. My point is- this has been an ONGOING issue for 5 Ubuntu releases. And no one really gives an answer to fix it. There is like ONE guide ive ran through that WOULD help. if it worked.
[20:12] <Nyle> I am not the person you meant to highlight, subcool
[20:13] <kreyren> Nyle, yep got that already, ty
[20:13] <subcool> ty
[20:14] <b3h3m0th> tomreyn: al2o3-cr: perhaps this might give a clearer picture of my situation: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/S738Rv6XzQ/
[20:16] <sarnold> b3h3m0th: what's your question?
[20:16] <ioria> b3h3m0th, what is '48254' ? your port ?
[20:16] <ioria> b3h3m0th, if so,  sudo ss -p | grep 48254
[20:16] <b3h3m0th> Some process has connected to my HTTP server at port 80. The source of that connection is 48254. I want the PID of that process. sarnold ioria
[20:17] <sarnold> b3h3m0th: if you're trying to find out which process used to have port 48696 before it was closed, I don't think that information is available anywhere
[20:17] <ioria> b3h3m0th, try :  sudo ss -p | grep 48254
[20:17] <b3h3m0th> No neither of those are what I am trying to find sarnold ioria
[20:17] <b3h3m0th> Connection is still there
[20:17] <pragmaticenigma> b3h3m0th: the try wait state is owned by the process on port 80... what ever was on port 48254 is probably long gone
[20:18] <sarnold> b3h3m0th: are you perhaps overlooking TIME_WAIT? the connection with endpoiints ::ffff:<IP_ADDRESS>:80 and ::ffff:<IP_ADDRESS>:48696 is gone
[20:18] <ioria> b3h3m0th, the cmd i posted should return you the pid
[20:18] <pragmaticenigma> ioria: They have tried that several times... they're not understanding that the process that triggered that has already exited
[20:18] <b3h3m0th> kinda makes sense now. I thought TIME_WAIT means client is still alive but, is that wrong assumption?
[20:18] <ioria> ah
[20:19] <ioria> pragmaticenigma, i see
[20:19] <ioria> b3h3m0th, if exited, ....
[20:19] <b3h3m0th> if triggered process exist, won't the connection be torn down? I thought TIME_WAIT is a TCP stream which didn't FIN/RST yet
[20:19] <b3h3m0th> *exits
[20:19] <pragmaticenigma> b3h3m0th: correct, the time_wait is owned by the server, not the client. What you have is someone's application that was poorly written and doesn't properly close it's connection on exit
[20:20] <b3h3m0th> I see
[20:20] <pragmaticenigma> b3h3m0th: You're better bet is to search the log files looking for user agents
[20:20] <b3h3m0th> I'll have to do some contrack voodoo now
[20:21] <b3h3m0th> server application log obviously won't "know" the cliend PID/process name
[20:21] <Nyle> If anyone has any experience running Ubuntu 18.04 with Kubuntu, but using Xmonad as KDEWM instead of Kwin, need some help figuring out multi monitor stuff. Does Ubuntu (with Gnome or Unity whatever) have multi monitor support out of the box? By which I mean automatic panels on both monitors, only the apps that are on that monitor show up on taskbar, virtual desktops etc. etc. ?
[20:21] <b3h3m0th> I'm looking at some IPTables voodoo angle as well.
[20:22] <pragmaticenigma> b3h3m0th: correct, but hopefully the item in question left its user agent signature in the log file (assuming your http server is logging that information)
[20:22] <ioria> with --log-prefix
[20:22] <b3h3m0th> Ah okay, you mean use the user agent string to infer the client process?
[20:22] <Nyle> Currently with Xmonad + Kubuntu I get all that, but have to manually do it, and when I plugin laptop in/out of work monitor to go home at night, next day I come to hook it up, and panels don't go to the right place, mon1 doesn't have panels, applications go to the wrong monitor and I have to manually fix everything
[20:23] <pragmaticenigma> b3h3m0th: not all <IP_ADDRESS> connections pass through IPTables ... as the interface is designed to enable applications to communicate freely internally with in the system
[20:23] <Nyle> I can switch to Ubuntu from Kubuntu, I don't mind, just need to know if anythign has good multi mon support
[20:23] <b3h3m0th> Wait a minute, that's interesting..
[20:24] <Nyle> localhost is not passing through iptables
[20:24] <b3h3m0th> So I can write applications talking over loopback and bypassing conntrack?
[20:24] <b3h3m0th> err
[20:24] <b3h3m0th> bypassing netfilter
[20:24] <pragmaticenigma> b3h3m0th: Yes
[20:25] <Nyle> That's another reason you can't route localhost to localhost on ports without dnat and prerouting rule
[20:26] <Nyle> Loopback is peculiar.
[20:27] <b3h3m0th> Nyle: so a dnat rule can be enforced for loopback?
[20:28] <b3h3m0th> That should solve my problem, my netfilter hook just needs to somehow get the client process cmdline for all connections which are destined for <IP_ADDRESS>:80
[20:28] <b3h3m0th> s/netfilter hook/iptables rule
[20:34] <ioria> !info systemtap
[20:53] <MannyLNJ> How do I tell what version of usbmuxd is installed?
[20:55] <b3h3m0th> MannyLNJ:  `apt policy usbmuxd`
[20:55] <MannyLNJ> b3h3m0th, thank you
[21:14] <MannyLNJ_> I'm tying to follow the directions at https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1351548 to work with my current installed version. Someone in the past said they they to change the version of libusbmuxd.so in the file. I just did but still no joy. Anyone have a suggestion on how to resolve
[21:17] <oerheks> such old post, 2009 ...
[21:17] <oerheks> what is your issue with iphone?
[21:17] <MannyLNJ> oerheks, I need to get my Ubuntu system to reach the internet through my PDA Net app on my smartphone
[21:21] <MannyLNJ> oerheks, the error displayed is 2020-01-27 16:19:53-0500 [-] OSError: libusbmuxd.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory so I believe it has to do with the version of libusbmuxd
[21:23] <MannyLNJ> if I wanted to make a symbolic link to the current version of libusbmuxd and have it appear as libusbmuxd.so.1 could I do that?
[21:31] <b3h3m0th> MannyLNJ: I'm guessing your libraryname.so is a broken symlink to lirbaryname.so.1 which is why this error
[21:32] <MannyLNJ> b3h3m0th, I'm not sure what you mean by that but i have to head out so I'll google it and come back later
[21:34] <b3h3m0th> Your software is either expecting `libusbmuxd.so.1` specifically and could not find it, or it is looking for a generic version `libusbmuxd.so` and your distro has it wrongly symlinked to `libusbmuxd.so.1` instead of whichever you have. I was betting on the later.
[21:34]  * b3h3m0th Try `locate libusbmuxd.so`
[21:36] <b3h3m0th> If former is the case, you making the symlink to the current version may or may not working depending on how the application is written. If later, it should work fine with you making the symlink.
[21:44] <mrsideways> what's the ssh-keygen syntax for a 4096 rsa keypair?
[21:45] <b3h3m0th> `ssh-keygen -t rsa -b 4096`
[21:46] <mrsideways> thanks b3h3m0th
[21:54] <gorby> quit
[22:02] <Guest98> Hey I am trying to satisfy "checking for GNU libtool >= 2.4... no" on ubuntu xenial aarch64 for crosstool-ng
[22:02] <Guest98> I have that package installed
[22:02] <Guest98> it is 2.4.6 version
[22:02] <Guest98> but it is not detected/detected as lower version or something
[22:02] <Guest98> and configure fails
[22:08] <leftyfb> Guest98: what version of ubuntu?
[22:08] <Guest98> lts
[22:08] <Guest98> 18.04
[22:08] <bprompt> hmmm Xenial is 16.04
[22:08] <Guest98> oh sry
[22:08] <leftyfb> Guest98: please pastebin: apt-cache policy libtool-bin
[22:09] <bprompt> however, 16.04 does have GNU libtool 2.4.6
[22:09] <bprompt> I know, this, I have 16.04 and just checked =)
[22:10] <Guest98> oh so this is the package, I was trying to install libtool-dev lel
[22:10] <leftyfb> Guest98: that does not include /usr/bin/libtool
[22:11] <Guest98> ah I see
[22:11] <Guest98> I expectedit needs a .so file
[22:11] <Guest98> somehow lol
[22:41] <Sven_vB> hi! I'm trying to debootstrap --foreign --arch=x86_64 ??? bionic, but get this error message: "E: Invalid Release file, no entry for main/binary-x86_64/Packages" so are the architecture names different than uname -m?
[22:41] <Sven_vB> nevermind, I had an emtpy mirror URL.
[22:42] <sarnold> try amd64
[22:42] <sarnold> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic/
[22:45] <Sven_vB> ic, the correct way to determine it is dpkg --print-architecture
[22:45] <Sven_vB> thanks!
[22:55] <Sven_vB> stage 1 finished with no error message. however, /target/boot is empty, so how can I get a kernel to boot and run stage 2?
[22:56] <Sven_vB> probably also an initrd
[22:56] <Sven_vB> I'll have a look at https://wiki.debian.org/EmDebian/CrossDebootstrap
[22:56] <quadrathoch2> Sven_vB, at least on debian, linux-image-amd64
[22:57] <quadrathoch2> ah install through apt
[22:58] <TGiske> Sometimes after suspend i get slow scrolling speed. anyone experience similar?
[23:02] <Sven_vB> quadrathoch2, thanks! the wiki page recommends multistrap instead, which seems to include tools to generate an initrd.
[23:03] <Sven_vB> well not sure about "instead", maybe it does download linux-image-amd64 as well.
[23:07] <frank1e> Did anyone in here actually manage to get Battle.net games working with wine? (tutorials are found are only for older ubuntu versions sadly)
[23:08] <frank1e> would love to play some world of warcraft :)
[23:10] <Mathisen> i have it working with wine-staging see > https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=28855 the howto/notes part also there
[23:10] <frank1e> wwine-staging, is that some kind of wine tool pack?
[23:11] <Mathisen> it is "testing" version of wine. more features less tested
[23:12] <frank1e> the HowTo/Notes sadly does not teach me how to install wine-staging and winetricks :O
[23:12] <frank1e> I once tried adding wine to my repository list, and it said it was not signed (tried out some other tutorial)
[23:12] <frank1e> so I could not install wine at all
[23:13] <Mathisen> im gonna start with saying adding 3.rd party repos is bad habit, if you add things it can later break stuff specaly on major updates
[23:13] <frank1e> okay
[23:14] <Mathisen> if you willing to "risk" it still https://wiki.winehq.org/Ubuntu
[23:14] <frank1e> no not risking it then
[23:14] <frank1e> going the way you did it :)
[23:15] <frank1e> btw when opening the Ubuntu Store application, it says "failed to refresh cache: W: GPG error: https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds[.......]"
[23:16] <frank1e> so I guess it is already in this weird repo list. now I need to remove it lol, but how? :D
[23:16] <Mathisen> to fix your gpg error run >> wget -nc https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/winehq.key && sudo apt-key add winehq.key
[23:16] <TGiske> I think i will try manjaro
[23:17] <Mathisen> to remove it from your repos delete it from /etc/sources.list.d&/foobar
[23:17] <Mathisen> foobar = name of the repo
[23:17] <Mathisen> after you need to run >> sudo apt update
[23:17] <Mathisen> typo > /etc/sources.list.d/foobar
[23:17] <Mathisen> the & should not be ther
[23:18] <npx> eh, whatever! I upgraded to Ubuntu 20.04, kernel 5.4 broke my wifi, so I built a 5.5 kernel which in turn broke the nvidia driver so the only good solution is to rollback to 5.3 and wait until 5.5 is actually added to 20.04 :(
[23:18] <npx> out of context there but the gist is: when will 5.5 be added to 20.04 cuz I'm about that life
[23:23] <frank1e> Mathisen, I cd'd into /etc/ and there is no sources.list file and no sources folder
[23:23] <frank1e> I have Ubuntu 19 (latest update) btw
[23:23] <Mathisen> my bad /etc/apt/sources.list.d/foobar
[23:23] <jeremy31> frank1e: /etc/apt
[23:23] <frank1e> ah yes misread that sorry
[23:23] <Mathisen> its getting late.. :(
[23:24] <npx> as an aside I accidentally built Linux 5.5 with clang (CC is set to clang in my shell) and it just... worked. I was like, WERD.
[23:24] <frank1e> results in:
[23:25] <frank1e> google-chrome.list  google-chrome.list.save  steam.list  steam.list.save
[23:25] <sarnold> npx: did it boot?
[23:25] <npx> sarnold: I'm running it now
[23:25] <sarnold> npx: *crazy* :)
[23:25] <jardinss> Hey folks
[23:25] <frank1e> Mathisen, there is nothing called wine, only above mentioned things.
[23:25] <npx> sarnold: yeah it all just works, I didn't even realize I did it hahah
[23:25] <sarnold> npx: I didn't think those frankenhybrids would survive all the way to a login prompt :)
[23:25] <jardinss> Ubuntu server 18.04 here - the mouse keeps freezing/stalling
[23:25] <sarnold> npx: how'd you figure out that it's not gcc?
[23:26] <sarnold> jardinss: wild shot in the dark, are you on the hwe kernel?
[23:26] <npx> I just realized I have export CC=clang-9 in my zshrc
[23:27] <jardinss> sarnol: I dont know what hwe kernel is!
[23:27] <jardinss> it seems to be kernel related
[23:27] <sarnold> jardinss: hehe, alright, what does uname -r report?
[23:28] <jardinss> it was the same mouse problems with centos and mint
[23:28] <npx> sarnold: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux-55-clang&num=1 - this is, like, a thing now. Probably purely placebo but I could swear this feels snappier.
[23:28] <Mathisen> frank1e, not sure what you saying where is there nothing called wine
[23:28] <jardinss> 4.15.0-76-generic
[23:29] <OoLunar> Hello! Where do I go to report package conflicts for Ubuntu 20.04? I currently have the minimal GUI installation, and wanted to install ``ubuntu-software``. The only issue is, it leads me on a chain of "this package requires that, but it won't be installed".
[23:31] <OoLunar> Alright, thanks for the support =#
[23:32] <frank1e> mathisen nevermind. Trying to install wine stable right now via terminal
[23:32] <npx> When the nvidia drivers are patched to work with linux 5.5, I'm really excited to see what a clang-built -lowlatency kernel feels like (just with a high intensity old school browser/tmux session)
[23:33] <frank1e> mathisen I did "sudo apt-add-repository 'deb https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu/ eoan main'"
[23:33] <frank1e> and then "sudo apt-add-repository 'deb https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu/ eoan main'"
[23:33] <frank1e> it returns this: "sudo apt-add-repository 'deb https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu/ eoan main'"
[23:33] <frank1e> sorry typo. it returns this: "E: Unable to locate package winehq-stable"
[23:34] <Mathisen> run > sudo apt update
[23:34] <Mathisen> is  https://dl.winehq.org in that list that it updates ?
[23:35] <frank1e> yes! :)
[23:35] <Mathisen> then you have it
[23:35] <frank1e> so it's already installed? How do I run it? I can't find Wine in my applications overview
[23:36] <oerheks> install synaptic, a much more detailed softwarecenter
[23:37] <Mathisen> you need to install it also.. sudo apt install winehq-stable
[23:37] <frank1e> Mathisen, "E: Unable to locate package winehq-stable"
[23:37] <Mathisen> maybe the name is diffrent > sudo apt search wine
[23:38] <frank1e> worked now. I used "wine-stable" instead of "winehq-stable"
[23:38] <frank1e> weird but ok :D
[23:41] <frank1e> Mathisen, it's installed now. Now I need to do "sudo apt install winetricks" to install the rest?
[23:43] <Mathisen> that or just install ttf-mscorefonts-installer with apt. this assuming you have contrib also in your sources.list
[23:43] <Mathisen> im going off now, ned time work tomorow. good luck anyway
[23:43] <Mathisen> bed*
[23:44] <frank1e> thanks so far! :)
[23:46] <sarnold> npx: I believe 20.04 is aiming at 5.4 instead of 5.5
[23:46] <npx> if they backported the iwlwifi changes I wouldn't mind
[23:47] <jeremy31> npx: there is a PPA with backport-iwlwifi-dkms
[23:47] <npx> well put me out to pasture
[23:47] <npx> thanks :D
[23:48] <jeremy31> npx: https://launchpad.net/~canonical-hwe-team/+archive/ubuntu/backport-iwlwifi
[23:49] <npx> powerful, thanks dude! didn't imagine this was already done
[23:49] <oerheks> good find jeremy31
[23:50] <jeremy31> There is an older version in the repos, it might show in driver manager
[23:50] <npx> I'd honestly prefer not to run a custom kernel, even if this is slightly slower
[23:50] <npx> so perfect
[23:51] <jeremy31> The downside I see is that it only supports Intel devices
[23:51] <npx> well that's what my laptop has so it's ideal
[23:51] <npx> now let's see if 5.4 works, brb
[23:53] <panorain> hmm
[23:56] <subcool> no one has fixes for their BT audio?
[23:56] <jeremy31> subcool: you mean switching from HFP/HSP to A2DP?
[23:56] <subcool> audio bt profiles go missing
[23:56] <subcool> unable to re-ad them.
[23:57] <subcool> they will connect, but NEVER offer the ability to listen through it.
[23:58] <jeremy31> subcool: check in terminal>  pactl list short | grep blue  #is module-bluetooth-discover listed
[23:58] <chris349> Ubuntu netboot is just for installation purposes? I want to PXE boot to an Ubuntu 18.04 desktop...
[23:58] <subcool> jeremy31: yes
[23:59] <jeremy31> subcool: what does it show as audio profile in sound settings?