[05:19] <modu> Hi, after suspending my laptop my smb-mount doesnt work, if I do 'umount /media/upload' I just get 'umount: /media/upload: device is busy', same thing if I use the force-flag. I have also grpped ps aux and lsof after 'upload' and nothing there to kill, any ideas?
[05:19] <MidnighToker> LancerDragoon: yeah, its true, gentoo bunny at heart, but started dumping my users onto ubuntu instead of Windaz, so i've started hanging out here... its scary
[05:20] <rubydiamond> astro76, I have installed apache in usr/local downloading and compiling
[05:20] <rubydiamond> now How can I setup phpmyadmin in it
[05:20] <LancerDragoon> MidnighToker: Never tried Gentoo myself, but CLI's the real meat in Linux.
[05:20] <shockwaver> rubydiamond: For something that is local, there is mysql-admin and mysql-client, both pretty good
[05:20] <Shadix> shockwaver: done that but now how to i start the app or where do I enter the commandline tools
[05:20] <astro76> rubydiamond, you can install both through Ubuntu's package manager, otherwise you might want to ask in #apache
[05:20] <MidnighToker> LancerDragoon: you'd like it, the installer is a liveCD and all the docs you need to do a cli install.... like a scripted LFS
[05:20] <rubydiamond> shockwaver, mysql-admin is GUI version?
[05:21] <modu> somehow I solved it myself...
[05:21] <shockwaver> rubydiamond: Yeah
[05:21] <LancerDragoon> MidnighToker: Neat, I should give that a try, seeing as CS is my major lol.
[05:21] <MidnighToker> CS?
[05:21] <shockwaver> rubydiamond: Actually, sorry.. mysql-client I don't think is gui.. you want mysql-query-browser
[05:21] <user__> Having trouble mounting a floppy , mount: /dev/fd0 already mounted or /media/fdd0 busy
[05:21] <LancerDragoon> MidnighToker: Comp. Science.
[05:21] <rubydiamond> shockwaver, whay about php myadmin
[05:21] <shockwaver> Shadix: try typing btool and see if that works
[05:21] <usser> counter strike lol
[05:22] <DanaG> That's lame: the current deskbuttonthatopensawindow-applet (it's not a deskbar anymore!) doesn't autocomplete commands.
[05:22] <LancerDragoon> usser: that too lol
[05:22] <dolphin_noel> usser> this is     windows is anti freddoom
[05:22] <BigDaddy> OK, lets try that again. Can someone say my name to see if I got it right yet?
[05:22] <MidnighToker> LancerDragoon: deffo. Linux from Scratch is a crazy distro... well, its a book and thats it, but gentoo teaches you meat and lets you play CLI.  -say hi if you get as far as #gentoo
[05:22] <shockwaver> rubydiamond: phpMyAdmin is a good tool as well, but I prefer the other two. Better designed for usability IMHO
[05:22] <DanaG> Hit alt-f3, enter 'pidg', it wants to Yahoo Search for it.
[05:22] <shockwaver> Less config work too if you don't have apache up and running
[05:22] <DanaG> With the old version, it puts "run Pidgin" first.
[05:22] <LancerDragoon> MidnighToker: I will, mate, thanks.
[05:22] <Shadix> command not found
[05:22] <techzilla> ! artifacts on screen
[05:22] <rubydiamond> shockwaver, I am going to try those out now
[05:22] <techzilla> ! artifacts
[05:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about artifacts - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:22] <shockwaver> Shadix: Did you get any errors when you ran the four commands?
[05:23] <DanaG> Oh yeah, is it okay to make my Ubuntu partition one single 60GB partition?
[05:23] <Shadix> no all just command not found
[05:23] <astro76> DanaG, sure
[05:23] <shockwaver> I meant the ./configure commands and what not on the website
[05:23] <Shadix> nope
[05:23] <DanaG> And is there a way to make a fsck not take so --mmph-- long?
[05:23] <Flannel> DanaG: Get a smaller harddrive
[05:23] <BigDaddy> Just real quick, someone type my name for a test
[05:23] <DanaG> Actually, I just got a bigger one.
[05:24] <LancerDragoon> BigDaddy
[05:24] <dirtsandwich> just leave off the k.  you loose a whole letter in 'fsck'
[05:24] <BigDaddy> crap...
[05:24] <DanaG> Had before: 75 gig (actual) drive, with 5 for fat32, 40 for XP, and 27 for Ubuntu.
[05:24] <Shadix> all seemed to go fine I'm in terminal XXXubuntu:/tmp/barry-0.9/src$
[05:24] <BigDaddy> thanks LancerDragoon . Anyone here use xChat?
[05:24] <keegan> BigDaddy:
[05:24] <MidnighToker> BigDaddy: what are you trying to do?
[05:24] <LancerDragoon> BigDaddy: Aye, sir.
[05:24] <DanaG> Now I have a 200 gig (186 actual) 7200rpm drive (was 5400 before).
[05:24] <MidnighToker> BigDaddy: and yeah ;)
[05:24] <Shadix> shockwaver:ubuntu:/tmp/barry-0.9/src$
[05:25] <DanaG> Yay, Hitachi 7k200 for 140 bucks.
[05:25] <BigDaddy> I am trying to have a balloon and blinking icon when my name is typed in the window
[05:25] <shockwaver> Shadix: What?
[05:25] <drizzt69> everytime i start azurious it closes as soon as it opens and i can't find bittorrent anywhere even though it says it is installed can someone help me
[05:25] <DanaG> http://www.dealsea.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=14250
[05:25] <Shadix> sockwaver: that is where I'm entering the commands
[05:25] <MidnighToker> BigDaddy: does it not highlight this line i send you?
[05:25] <astro76> BigDaddy, the tray icon and taskbar button should blink, I doubt it does a balloon or anything
[05:25] <Shadix> er the command line tools commands
[05:25] <ScX_Tyler> What is Error 17 in GRUB?
[05:26] <MidnighToker> astro76: BigDaddy the try icon should only blink if hte window is NOT active
[05:26] <BigDaddy> MidnighToker: yeah, it is red text, but no blinking X icon or balloon notification
[05:26] <DanaG> Okay, if I want to switch to having multiple partitions, how do I do it neatly?
[05:26] <astro76> MidnighToker, ah right
[05:26] <BigDaddy> MidnighToker: ooh... did not know that
[05:26] <DanaG> And how should I split the 60 GB I'll be giving it?
[05:26] <BigDaddy> the balloon notification might be the same then.
[05:26] <Lapinux> oh my god i hate grub, one error after another
[05:27] <chronographer> Hello. I use cron to start my bittorrent program at midnight. Recently it stopped working, i use DISPLAY:0.0 to get the prog on the desktop. I found that using xhost + fixes this, but not after a reboot, how can I set this to fix permanently?
[05:27] <shockwaver> Shadix: Sorry, I've got to go. What I recommend is running all four of those commands: ./configure --with-boost=/usr --enable-gui --enable-opensync-plugin and make and sudo making install and cd src && doxygen - copy the entire messages you get, and post them of the forum if things don't work
[05:27] <MidnighToker> astro76: BigDaddy it cancels the "alarm" when the window becomes active again, if the window is always active.... :)
[05:28] <DanaG> I'll just go with one big partition, for now.
[05:28] <BigDaddy> bwa-ha-ha! Success...
[05:28] <MidnighToker> chronographer: would cron not be running with the wrong user writes?>
[05:28] <astro76> chronographer, you can add the command to System > Admin > Sessions
[05:28] <DanaG> I don't want to spend time pondering how to break up the space, and then finding it to be wrong later.
[05:28] <BigDaddy> MidnighToker: you were right. I just needed to focus another window
[05:28] <LancerDragoon> MidnighToker: I'm wondering if xchat has any sort of sound notification
[05:28] <DanaG> If need be, I'll move stuff around later and resize.
[05:28] <BigDaddy> LancerDragoon: there is an option yes
[05:28] <Galaxor> Hi.  I'm all 'man g_list_prepend' and it's all "I have no idea what you're talking about".  What package should I install?  Hint:  It doesn't seem to be libglib2.0-dev or libglib2.0-doc.
[05:28] <DanaG> Oh yeah, and a lesson I just learned: DON'T use --force on ntfs-3g.
[05:29] <DanaG> It broke all my permissions on my ntfs drive.
[05:29] <astro76> LancerDragoon, it does, are you using xchat, and not xchat-gnome?
[05:29] <chronographer> I don't want to run xhost +  every time cause its unsecure
[05:29] <LancerDragoon> BigDaddy: I'm using the Gnome Xchat however.
[05:29] <jpastore> I'm having some power management issues. If I resintall ubuntu over the current version what would happen?
[05:29] <ScX_Tyler> Does anyone know what error 17 in GRUB means and how i can fix it?
[05:29] <chapium> i'm unable to use my mic, i've checked alsa mixer and things look ok there.  Any help?
[05:29] <astro76> LancerDragoon, you should switch to real xchat ;)
[05:29] <MidnighToker> LancerDragoon: it widdles my system bell i think, have a poke in preferences
[05:29] <MidnighToker> LancerDragoon: its just a gnome front end, dont worry
[05:29] <Taa5i> Is there a method available where I can use a boot floppy to install from a CD in an external USB cd drive?  I've been googling for hours and nothing I've found so far works.
[05:29] <jpastore> let me rephrase that...will it repair the installed packages? and leave conf files intact or is it going to try and overwrite the system
[05:29] <LancerDragoon> MidnighToker: Will check, thanks, guys.
[05:29] <MidnighToker> LancerDragoon: well, gnome front end with some wierd ubuntu jazz smegged on the top of it ;)
[05:30] <BigDaddy> LancerDragoon: I am not. But you should try the vanilla xchat. it is simple to install and setup. I am a casual irc user and these are my only problems so far.
[05:30] <astro76> gnome front end with most setting unaccessible
[05:30] <chapium> I receive this errror message when I test sound capture in sound preferences:  Failed to construct test pipeline for 'gconfaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat'
[05:30] <LancerDragoon> BigDaddy: I'm tempted to go install vanilla xchat right now...
[05:30] <BigDaddy> So far, it is pretty nice. I think Konversation is good to if you are using a KDE box
[05:31]  * MidnighToker rolls his eyes
[05:31] <BigDaddy> LancerDragoon: the balloon is nice too. But you will need libnotify for that
[05:31] <LancerDragoon> BigDaddy: No KDE for me sir. And I already have libnotify so it should be a cinch.
[05:31] <Galaxor> If those manpages aren't in the libglib2.0-doc package, where would they be?  Or is there some sort of man cache I have to update?
[05:31] <DanaG> Oh yeah, this is what I need:    https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/prompt-for-fsck-on-shutdown
[05:31]  * MidnighToker uses e17 :-D its pure bliss
[05:31] <LancerDragoon> BigDaddy: Any links that will help me get that balloon thing up and running?
[05:31]  * LancerDragoon GNOME all the way.
[05:31] <Peddy> Anybody having trouble with Pidgin in Gutsy?
[05:32] <FluxD> How do I make terminal service client remember passwords?
[05:32] <astro76> Galaxor, maybe manpages-dev ?
[05:32] <habluxa> hello all i got some probelm ..totem could not play
[05:32] <chapium> habluxa: what are you trying to play?
[05:32] <LancerDragoon> habluxa: Play what kind of files? You might need some codecs.
[05:32] <BigDaddy> LancerDragoon: if you are using the vanilla xchat, once you have a server/channell window open, go to settings ->preferences -> Alerts
[05:33] <Galaxor> astro76:  Nope, not that one either.  Thanks.
[05:33] <habluxa> lancer---its windos media
[05:33] <LancerDragoon> BigDaddy: Thanks.
[05:33] <BigDaddy> habluxa: could not play what? Kickball? Football? Chess?
[05:33] <BigDaddy> LancerDragoon: np
[05:33] <Peddy> Anybody having trouble with Pidgin in Gutsy?
[05:33] <LancerDragoon> habluxa: you will need to install some codec to play those files.
[05:33] <BigDaddy> peddy
[05:33] <Peddy> I love kickball xD
[05:33] <Ratman> Hello there... I am a total newbie with linux / ubuntu...  I have installed the firestarter application but what virus program do I need to install?
[05:33] <habluxa> lance--where can i get the file
[05:34] <Haemoth> Does Gutsy have support for the UDF 2.5 filesystem built-in, or does that need to be installed separately?
[05:34] <BigDaddy> lol, Peddy what kind of problems? It eats a lot of memory IMO
[05:34] <astro76> habluxa, you will need w32codecs, you can get it from medibuntu
[05:34] <FluxD> How do I make terminal service client remember passwords?
[05:34] <astro76> !medibuntu | habluxa
[05:34] <ubotu> habluxa: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[05:34] <habluxa> thank guys lemme check it
[05:34] <LancerDragoon> habluxa: good luck
[05:34] <Peddy> BigDaddy: I know, but I'll send a screenie of my problem. Slightly worse, to say the least. Just fyi I've purged and reinstalled several times.
[05:35] <VJain8905> Hi, I plan to install a linux distribution in a few days, most likely Ubuntu. But i've recently learned of Kubuntu and Xubuntu, what's the difference between these distributions? (I am a newb to linux in general)
[05:35] <BigDaddy> VJain8905: the only differece is the desktop envirnment
[05:35] <astro76> VJain8905, they use gnome, kde, and xfce respectively... you could download the livecds and try each out
[05:35] <Flannel> VJain8905: the difference between all *ubuntu's is the desktop environment.  They're really all one distro, just with different GUIs.
[05:35] <Peddy> Can I send a file in xchat?
[05:35] <VJain8905> BigDaddy: could you elaborate please?
[05:35] <nalioth> Ratman: no antivirus is needed
[05:35] <FluxD> !kubunti | VJain8905
[05:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubunti - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:35] <FluxD> !kubuntu | VJain8905
[05:35] <ubotu> VJain8905: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[05:36] <BigDaddy> My recommendation is stick with Ubuntu proper until you are comfortable. Then just install another DE
[05:36] <Peddy> BigDaddy: You can sort out VJain8905 first
[05:36] <Jausk> Hi!
[05:36] <Peddy> meanwhile I'm upping a screenshot
[05:36] <VJain8905> ok, thank you. And what do you mean by desktop enviorment?
[05:36] <Ratman> Hi, what virus scan programs are good to use with ubuntu?
[05:36] <FluxD> clamav
[05:36] <FluxD> nod32
[05:36] <usser> Ratman: clamav, avira antivir
[05:36] <AlanBShepard70> how can I diff a folder recursively and delete duplicate files? I thought it was diff -r /home/folder ???
[05:36] <usser> FluxD: nod32 has linux version?
[05:36] <FluxD> yup
[05:36] <chronographer> anyone know how to use xhost to enable me to run this  'DISPLAY=:0.0 /usr/bin/deluge' in a virtual terminal or crontab and appear on my desktop ??? apart from xhost + ? is there a text file for me to edit someone is aware of?
[05:37] <Ratman> ok, I know it's personal preference but which is most popular?
[05:37] <BigDaddy> VJain8905: The operating system is not a graphical entitiy like it is in Windows. Explorer.exe gives you your shell, file manager, and startmenu, taskbar, systemtray...
[05:37] <usser> AlanBShepard70: probably by using find command
[05:37] <Jausk> I can do md5 to a folder or md5 only works with the files?
[05:37] <nalioth> Ratman: no antivirus is needed
[05:37] <chronographer> diff < rsync
[05:37] <astro76> Ratman, non are popular as it's not needed, unless you need to scan a windows host
[05:37] <VJain8905> i'm following you so far
[05:37] <LancerDragoon> VJain8905: So we have all these other desktop environments to cater to those who need/want a GUI.
[05:37] <nalioth> Ratman: in your synaptic search for "antivirus"
[05:37] <BigDaddy> VJain8905: Linux operating systems have desktop enviroments that are platforms for applications and GUI controls to work with the underlying OS
[05:38] <drizzt69> does anybody have a windows xp iso they can send me ?
[05:38] <Ratman> ok, but how come no antivirus would be needed... sorry, I am a windows user primarily... why couldn't there be a virus on a linux box?
[05:38] <LancerDragoon> VJain8905: GNOME is Ubuntu's default desktop environment, but you can use whichever you like.
[05:38] <VJain8905> ok, thank you
[05:38] <MidnighToker> Ratman: linux doesn't get virus's in the windows sense
[05:38] <chronographer> search www.thepiratebay.org for XP Ultimate  its good (for windoze)
[05:38] <relapse> hi
[05:38] <MidnighToker> Ratman: the entire OS runs differently
[05:38] <Jausk> drizzt69, WinXP???? No!!
[05:38]  * usser drizzt69 sound suspiciously like RIAA agent
[05:38] <VJain8905> I'll stick w/ Ubuntu for about a week and go from there. Any programs other than Wine I should get to begin with?
[05:38] <astro76> !piracy | drizzt69 chronographer
[05:38] <chronographer> its got SP3 too
[05:38] <ubotu> drizzt69 chronographer: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[05:38] <BigDaddy> VJain8905: A simple analogy would be an alternate shell in Windows to the Linux DE. Not necessarily an accurate one, but you might grasp that idea easily
[05:38] <chronographer> oops
[05:39] <Peddy> Say no to warez
[05:39] <Jausk> I can do md5 to a folder or md5 only works with the files?
[05:39] <DanaG> Don't use a strange modded XP.  I've seen it on sombody else's computer, and he was asking me about some brokenness in it.
[05:39] <relapse> for some reason, today when i went to turn off my laptop, the shutdown and restart icons are missing, all i get are "switch user, log off, suspend, and hibernate"
[05:39] <relapse> any ideas?
[05:39] <Ratman> hmmm, I know they are different but still don't quite understand... but If I wanted one to make sure it would be clamav?
[05:39] <DanaG> I told him the best thing to do would be to BUY it (from msdnaa.)
[05:39] <drizzt69> what was that all about ?
[05:39] <BigDaddy> VJain8905: a week? how new are you to Linux?
[05:40] <Peddy> Relapse: Happened to me before, have you been playing with Xauthority?
[05:40] <relapse> no Peddy i installed blubuntu theme
[05:40] <relapse> thats all
[05:40] <VJain8905> very new, but I'm giving myself a week to get a feel for the DE, I'll fiddle around to find the DE i like best
[05:40] <LancerDragoon> VJain8905: Exaile, please go play with Exaile.
[05:40] <astro76> drizzt69, you do understand it's illegal to copy copyrighted software?
[05:40] <usuario> ola
[05:40] <Peddy>  Peddy test
[05:40] <mikefoo> If i was to forward localhost:3306 to a remote-server:3306, would there be any problems with that?  both web/db servers
[05:40] <BigDaddy> drizzt69: why would you ask for a XP iso in the ubuntu channel?
[05:40] <usuario> td bem
[05:40] <relapse> this is a new install, just installed this morning on a new laptop
[05:40] <Peddy> relapse: What happens if you remove it?
[05:41] <Peddy> the theme
[05:41] <DanaG> The one LEGAL thing to do is to find somebody ELSE with a physical XP cd, and then use your OWN existing key.  If it's an OEM key, then you may be SOL.
[05:41] <BigDaddy> LancerDragoon: you like Exaile? you ever tried Listen?
[05:41] <relapse> Peddy: noting changes, i switchedback to human made no difference.
[05:41] <astro76> DanaG, very true
[05:41] <Peddy> relapse: but what if uninstall?
[05:41] <LancerDragoon> BigDaddy: no, not yet, I shall now give it a try.
[05:41] <relapse> ill try
[05:41] <relapse> hold on
[05:41] <BigDaddy> LancerDragoon: WAIT
[05:41] <DanaG> Also, it's subjectively less shady to do it that way.
[05:41] <drizzt69> astro69, i'm not looking to copy anything i used to have a valid version but comp crashed and i never had a backup
[05:42] <VJain8905> BigDaddy: is one week not long enough to mess around w/ Ubuntu to see if I like it's DE?
[05:42] <astro76> drizzt69, you can also get a replacement cd from them for $35
[05:42] <Peddy> DanaG: I though it was legal to obtain XP (by any means) as long as you use your own (paid) key?
[05:42] <LancerDragoon> BigDaddy: wait?
[05:42] <modu> I know that there is quiet a few, but can someone recommend me a good RSS-feeder?
[05:42] <DanaG> That's gray area.
[05:42] <astro76> Peddy, for $35 as I mentioned ;)
[05:42] <BigDaddy> LancerDragoon: I was just curious if you knew how to fix the damn thing from duplicating ever song in the library evertime you refresh it
[05:42] <Peddy> ahh
[05:42] <Jausk> modu, for gnome?
[05:42] <Shadix> What does it mean "no public key" http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45087/
[05:42] <drizzt69> astro76, no they won't give me one they said i need to get vista since thats all they make anymore
[05:42] <modu> Jausk: yes sir
[05:42] <LancerDragoon> BigDaddy: Oh, no. I wouldn't know about that.
[05:42] <BigDaddy> VJain8905: I used Kubuntu for 2 months before I decided to switch to Ubuntu
[05:42] <mogra> Peddy: Downloaded ISO's are not "legal" per se, as it's illegal to share the ISO. Making "copies of the disk" is considered illegal.
[05:42] <relapse> Peddy: how do i uninstal the theme, in apperene settings, delete is greyed out
[05:42] <modu> Jausk: or simply indepandant from gnome, doesnt mather as long as it works fine
[05:43] <LancerDragoon> BigDaddy: It sure looks pretty though.
[05:43] <BigDaddy> LancerDragoon: I thought maybe you had tried a few and settled on Exaile
[05:43] <Peddy> BigDaddy: Can you give me a hand with Pidgin? I have a screenshot upped.
[05:43] <VJain8905> BigDaddy: k, thanks. I guess I'll try it out for longer then i planned
[05:43] <astro76> drizzt69, they went back on that and are still selling XP, have you tried recently? otherwise just don't discuss it here
[05:43] <Jausk> modu, liferea
[05:43] <Jausk> for example
[05:43] <BigDaddy> Peddy: what'cha got?
[05:43] <Jausk> or straw
[05:43] <Peddy> http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/5676/pidgin2qd1.png
[05:43] <m0u5e> .net
[05:43] <drizzt69> ok i won't discuss it here
[05:43]  * DanaG uses amarok, for the sake of having folder views.
[05:43] <relapse> Peddy: how do i uninstal the theme, in apperene settings, delete is greyed out
[05:43] <DanaG> Oh yeah, there's a ##windows on freenode.
[05:43] <DanaG> And apparently, irc.ubuntu.com IS irc.freenode.net.
[05:44] <modu> Jausk: oh, I remember using liferea now that you mention that one, thanks for the tip
[05:44] <Ratman> can I map drives from my windows box to this (ubuntu) computer?
[05:44] <drizzt69> astro76, you know why its shutting down all of my torrent programs as soon as they open?
[05:44] <Peddy> relapse: no idea try asking someone else (or googling) 'how to uninstall themes in ubuntu'
[05:44] <nalioth> Ratman: yes, using samba
[05:44] <BigDaddy> Peddy: what is that for your GNOME menu button?
[05:44] <Jausk> Peddy, your gnome is beatiful
[05:44] <Peddy> Thanks. I spent a lot of time on it.
[05:44] <Jausk> but ou use the office?
[05:44] <Jausk> you*
[05:45] <DanaG> Oh yeah, my apport is broken.  It never offers up any bug reports.
[05:45] <Peddy> As you can see, M$ word is on it. Disgraceful
[05:45] <Ratman> nalioth: Sorry I am totally new and just trying to learn linux, what is Samba?
[05:45] <astro76> drizzt69, no idea about azureus
[05:45] <Peddy> I prefer Beryl to Compiz Fusion, but can't get it working in gutsy. So Compiz Fusion it is
[05:45] <Peddy> I am using Sun's Solaris Nimbus theme btw
[05:45] <VJain8905> is the difference between PCLinuxOS and Ubuntu the DE?
[05:46] <nalioth> Ratman: if you use windows, you are familiar with it  :)   it is how windows allows folders and files to be addressed over the network
[05:46] <BigDaddy> Peddy: are you using any unusual fonts?
[05:46] <Flannel> VJain8905: no.  theres other differences as well
[05:46] <Jausk> DE?
[05:46] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Ratman about samba
[05:46] <VJain8905> DE=desktop environment.
[05:46] <usser> !samba | Ratman
[05:46] <ubotu> Ratman: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:46] <Jausk> :) thanks
[05:46] <VJain8905> Flannel: Are there any major ones?
[05:46] <Peddy> BigDaddy: Not really, sans.
[05:46] <BigDaddy> Peddy: is the user you are messaging offline?
[05:47] <drizzt69> astro76, it did the same in bittorrent but now i can't even find bittorrent and it won't let me reinstall it because it says its still there and won't let me un-install it
[05:47] <Peddy> Bigdaddy: I am using the same ones since I upgraded from Feisty. Pidgin hasn't been working since
[05:47] <Peddy> nope
[05:47] <Peddy> online
[05:47] <DanaG> Oh yeah, one thing I was surprised to learn: apparently SMB is also called CIFS.
[05:47] <usser> Peddy: did u try purging pidgin
[05:47] <Peddy> If I look at the output in terminal, it says 'segmentation fault'
[05:47] <egkamp> I could use some help getting my laptops' scroll pad to work with a vmplayer ubuntu 7.1 appliance
[05:47] <usser> Peddy: and installing again
[05:47] <Peddy> usser: yes
[05:47] <Kamandag> how can i install Opera in breezy 5.10?
[05:47] <sidlet> Is pidgin available in feisty?
[05:47] <usser> Peddy: wow segfault eh
[05:47] <Peddy> usser: And deleting my /home/peddy/.pidgin
[05:48] <usser> Peddy: its probably a bug
[05:48] <sidlet> or am I stuck with gaim?
[05:48] <Peddy> Segfault, core took a dump
[05:48] <LancerDragoon> sidlet: Only through third-party repos, I think.
[05:48] <Peddy> -.-
[05:48] <sidlet> bummer
[05:48] <astro76> Kamandag, you should update to a supported version of Ubuntu
[05:48] <LancerDragoon> sidlet: I'm using pidgin myself, on feisty
[05:48] <DanaG> Debuntu.org has pidgin.
[05:48] <Haemoth> Does Gutsy have support for the UDF 2.5 filesystem built-in, or does that need to be installed separately?
[05:48] <usser> sidlet: u can compile it yourself
[05:48] <BigDaddy> Peddy: how about plugin's? What plugin's are you using?
[05:48] <Kamandag> how can i install Opera in breezy 5.10? ive just downloaded opera for ubuntu
[05:48] <Peddy> BigDaddy: Excellent thought. I am disabling all of them right now.
[05:49] <judgernaught> Can anyone explain to the difference between the CD distro and the DVD distro?
[05:49] <Peddy> pidgin
[05:49] <Flannel> VJain8905: I have no idea.  Ubuntu uses dpkg while PCLinuxOS uses rpm, PCLos is based on Mandriva, while Ubuntu is based on debian.  If you want KDE with ubuntu (the DE PC... uses) you just use Kubuntu.
[05:49] <sidlet> usser, i see no need to compile something. :P it'll break the beautiful apt system I have going.
[05:49] <Ratman> how do I get to a command line?
[05:49] <Jausk> judgernaught, the DVD distro have more packages
[05:49] <usser> judgernaught: dvd has extra packages on it
[05:49] <sidlet> usser, but thanks for the idea anyway..
[05:49] <VJain8905> Flannel: thanks
[05:49] <LancerDragoon> sidlet: third party repos is your best bet then
[05:49] <nalioth> Ratman: Applications > accessories > terminal
[05:49] <usser> sidlet: have u heard of checkinstall
[05:49] <Flannel> judgernaught: The DVD has both the liveCD and the text based installer, and includes more packages
[05:49] <rubydiamond> how to install fonts in ubuntu
[05:49] <LancerDragoon> sidlet: or getdeb.net
[05:49] <weltschmerz> anyone here a genius with Grace?
[05:49] <Ratman> thanks, sorry this is sooooo new.
[05:49] <sidlet> no.... whassat?
[05:49] <DanaG> DEBUNTU.
[05:49] <Flannel> judgernaught: that is, more packages in the repos on the CD
[05:49] <usser> sidlet: it compiles and produces a .deb
[05:49] <DanaG> for pidgin.
[05:49] <sidlet> !checkinstall
[05:49] <VJain8905> Flannel: also, should I start out with Kubuntu or Ubuntu if I am going from Windows -> Linux
[05:49] <ubotu> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[05:49] <usser> sidlet: which u can install
[05:50] <LancerDragoon> VJain8905: Kubuntu uses KDE which is aesthetically similar to Windows.
[05:50] <judgernaught> thank you all very much.  is the dvd worth buying to get the extra packages?
[05:50] <Jausk> and Gnome to Mac OS X
[05:50] <VJain8905> which would you suggest for a first time linux user?
[05:50] <Flannel> VJain8905: Either one, its really just personal preference.  I suggest trying both, either by liveCD of each, or by installing them both (install one, then install the other via package management), they can both sit on the same Ubuntu install (that's Ubuntu the distro, not Ubuntu the flavor)
[05:50] <LancerDragoon> VJain8905: I prefer Gnome, but it's only a personal preference thing.
[05:51] <meta4ical> Could anyone help me with Ubuntu 7.10 and my x800 pro, I'm trying to get the fglrx drivers working but I bootup with a black screen. I posted a thread on the forums (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3792186#post3792186) with what i've tried and my xorg.conf if anyones willing? :(
[05:51] <nalioth> VJain8905: they are all free to choose from.  install them all, use them and see whiche one YOU like
[05:51] <VJain8905> thanks
[05:51] <Flannel> judgernaught: The packages will be outdated already, so unless you're using it somewhere that has no internet, you don't really get any benefit
[05:51] <BigDaddy> LancerDragoon: I don't agree with that. KDE is so dissimilar to Windows
[05:51] <R3ckl3ss> Anyone know of a good usenet program that will work with NZB's?
[05:51] <LancerDragoon> BigDaddy: I thought there would be someone disagreeing with me about it. :D
[05:51] <BigDaddy> KDE is much nicer looking that WIndows
[05:51] <amidaniel> BigDaddy: Well, unless you turn on redmand
[05:51] <Peddy> BigDaddy: I can now send messages, the core doesn't take a dump anymore, but there is still no send button.
[05:51] <BigDaddy> LancerDragoon: Glad it could be me then!
[05:51] <amidaniel> Or whatever it was called
[05:51] <diogofsr> BigDaddy: MUCH more...
[05:51] <Kamandag> ive just downloaded opera for ubuntu.. whats next?
[05:51] <Kamandag> .deb
[05:52] <judgernaught> thanks to everyone who helpled me. im loggint out now
[05:52] <usser> Peddy: theres no send button in pidgin at all :)
[05:52] <LancerDragoon> BigDaddy: Haha, I suppose it's because the Kicker is almost always used on the bottom of the screen, which would certainly remind one of windows.
[05:52] <Flannel> Kamandag: double click it.
[05:52] <Jausk> bye judgernaught
[05:52] <BigDaddy> LancerDragoon: I agree there
[05:52] <Jausk> later
[05:52] <Jausk> xD
[05:52] <BigDaddy> Peddy: what plugins did you disable?
[05:52] <LancerDragoon> BigDaddy: Glad we agree on that. :p
[05:52] <egkamp> how do I get my laptop's scroll pad to work with ubuntu?
[05:52] <diogofsr> BigDaddy: Although I prefer GNOME.
[05:52] <Kamandag> archive not supported
[05:52] <Peddy> BigDaddy: Purple plugin pack. Deleting them too, now.
[05:53] <cyberick> Can someone tell me how to use math.h library?
[05:53]  * LancerDragoon begins a promotional advert for GNOME.
[05:53] <VJain8905> Will setting up the internet on Ubuntu be easy? Or will I need help doing it?
[05:53] <cyberick> I mean... how to use it on gcc...
[05:53] <BigDaddy> I love KDE, but Kubuntu had too many problems for me. I like the cornacopia of configuration options in KDE
[05:53] <Kamandag> Flannel,  archive not supported
[05:53] <BigDaddy> GNOME has that training wheel feel to it
[05:53] <DanaG> I can't change brightness when in KDE.
[05:53] <diogofsr> cyberick: Insert it with include than compile with -lm
[05:53] <DanaG> I also can't make my panels as nice and slim as my gnome panel.
[05:53] <BigDaddy> Peddy: never heard of them so I can't help there
[05:53] <user__> I'm having some problems getting my floppy to work in ubuntu.  Sometimes it won't mount... just green floppy light and brr brr. Sometimes it will mount after looking at the drive a minute or so .
[05:53] <Shadix> I'm having trouble getting barry installed Shockwaver was helping me but had to go. my issue is that I can't dl opensync i get his error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45087/
[05:53] <DanaG> I want a KDE version of gnome-panel, essentially.
[05:54] <LancerDragoon> VJain8905: Your only problem should only be with wireless.
[05:54] <cyberick> Thanks, diogofsr!
[05:54] <Peddy> BigDaddy: Problem is fixed, thanks for your help. Problem is with plugins, I'm gonna isolate them and then file a bug report.
[05:54] <Peddy> BigDaddy: cya
[05:54] <LancerDragoon> Vjain8905: Although, most wireless cards work with Ubuntu out of the box now.
[05:54] <diogofsr> cyberick: You're welcome. ;-)
[05:54] <Shadix> any takers./
[05:54]  * DanaG is glad to have ipw3945.
[05:54] <VJain8905> LancerDragoon: thanks
[05:54] <BigDaddy> DanaG: you know the thing that finally made me swith to Ubuntu from Kubuntu? The simple weather plugin and the CPU/MEM/NET meters
[05:54] <xoRock> hi, just install realtek driver from this page, http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=14&PFid=24&Level=4&Conn=3&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false and i got log out after log in, how to reinstall standard driver?
[05:54] <BigDaddy> Peddyglad I could have helped
[05:54] <DanaG> Yeah.  The KDE equivalents are ugly.
[05:55] <nalioth> VJain8905: if you use cable or *dsl, with a standard wired NIC, it should find the network right away
[05:55] <DanaG> And you can't even match the colors.
[05:55] <DanaG> Not easily, I mean.
[05:55] <BigDaddy> DanaG: and that is what kills me. Everything else is beautiful on KDE, expt for the meters
[05:55] <Ratman> ok, i downloaded, installed and configured firestarter... is there anything on or around the desktop to show me it's still running or working after I close the box?
[05:55] <LancerDragoon> VJain8905: If you use PPPOE, without a router between your PC and your modem, you might want to check up on how to set it up.
[05:55] <Haemoth> Does Gutsy have support for the UDF 2.5 filesystem built-in, or does that need to be installed separately?
[05:55] <DanaG> And big huge icons instead of menus.
[05:55] <LancerDragoon> VJain8905: Otherwise, it should work just fine.
[05:55] <VJain8905> I have a router inbetween, so it should be fine. And I'm dual-booting so at worst, I'll restart in Windows to get help
[05:55] <nalioth> Ratman: you downloaded with the package manager or with your browser?
[05:55] <BigDaddy> KDE themes and icons, gorgeous. Kongueror is an awesome FM... Nautilus not so much
[05:55] <DanaG> Most KDE themes also just feel bulky to me.
[05:56] <DanaG> Oh, one big gripe with GTK apps:
[05:56] <BigDaddy> Bulky? Have you seen human?
[05:56] <Ratman> package manager
[05:56] <LancerDragoon> BigDaddy: While I love GNOME, KDE4 is making me seriously rethink my allegiance.
[05:56] <Ratman> I think
[05:56] <BigDaddy> LancerDragoon: oh yeah. I really want to try that
[05:56] <DanaG> Try going to some File->Open somewhere, and type a path and then hit enter.
[05:56] <nalioth> Ratman: firestarter doesn't "run" per se, it is used to adjust your firewall settings
[05:56] <DanaG> And then bang on your keyboard repeatedly and holler when enter does absolutely nothing.
[05:56] <Shadix> Are there any other chans for support?
[05:56] <DanaG> So much for accessibility.
[05:56] <nalioth> Shadix: support for what?
[05:56] <LancerDragoon> BigDaddy: Plasma and all them fancy new widgets. I'm so tempted to switch to KDE just for that.
[05:57] <Ratman> nalioth: ok, so the firewall is part of ubuntu?
[05:57] <Shadix> I'm having trouble getting barry installed Shockwaver was helping me but had to go. my issue is that I can't dl opensync i get his error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45087/
[05:57] <Lapinux> i guess i will give this one more try, then if it wont install to heck with it
[05:57] <nalioth> Ratman: every *nix has a "firewall"
[05:57] <BigDaddy> Who said KDE was bulky? Danag?
[05:57] <BigDaddy> http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs19/f/2007/290/b/6/I_like_KDE_dammit_by_marriedman.jpg
[05:57] <BigDaddy> that was my KDE setup
[05:57] <drizzt69> nalioth, how do i get firestarter ?
[05:57] <nalioth> drizzt69: use your package manager
[05:57] <Ratman> nailoth: ok, thanks
[05:57] <DanaG> I also LIKE orange, but can't find any nice orange KDE themes.
[05:57] <Lapinux> i've never had so many problems trying to get linux installed on a pc
[05:57] <chapium> hi, i cannot hear sound from my mic.   Anyone have any ideas?  alsamixer is unmuted
[05:57] <LancerDragoon> BigDaddy: Beautiful setup.
[05:57] <drizzt69> nalioth, what do i type ?
[05:58]  * DanaG doesn't have working capture, either.
[05:58] <nalioth> ubotu: tell drizzt69 about synaptic
[05:58] <DanaG> All I get is this:
[05:58] <Lapinux> something about my desktop machine...
[05:58] <rubydiamond> HOW can I install fonts in ubuntu?
[05:58] <Shadix> nalioth, any sudggestions
[05:58] <egkamp> my laptop scroll pad works with the livecd, but not from inside a vmplayer ubuntu appliance
[05:58] <BigDaddy> LancerDragoon: thanks. Unfortunately it was really unstable, Login manager problems, quirky app behaviour
[05:58] <egkamp> xorg.conf looks ok
[05:58] <lunks> rubydiamond: just drag your fonts to fonts://
[05:58] <DanaG> ~$ arecord -fcd
[05:58] <lunks> it should work
[05:59] <DanaG> Recording WAVE 'stdin' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo
[05:59] <DanaG> RIFF$�WAVEfmt D��data�
[05:59] <lunks> It may require root, dunno
[05:59] <LancerDragoon> BigDaddy: Happens, sometimes.
[05:59] <DanaG> gaack, pidgin mangles it even worse.
[05:59] <chapium> DanaG: i get pure silence
[05:59] <DanaG> But anyway, arecord simply HANGS after the riff thingy.
[05:59] <BigDaddy> I learned a valuable lesson then though. I learned how to have a /home partition
[05:59] <DanaG> I don't even get silence -- I get the application blocking.
[05:59] <chapium> if i test it in preferences i get this:  failed to construct test pipeline
[05:59] <BigDaddy> DanaG: what are you trying to do?
[05:59] <R3ckl3ss> !nzb
[05:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nzb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:00] <Shadix> no other support chans?
[06:00] <LancerDragoon> BigDaddy: I *really* should make a /home partition.
[06:00] <DanaG> I'm trying to get working audio capture.
[06:00] <DanaG> Even the HG ALSA doesn't fix it.
[06:00] <BigDaddy> LancerDragoon: the only problem I have is that it doesn't automatically use the users from that partition
[06:01] <LancerDragoon> BigDaddy: I guess if you're the only user, it wouldn't be a problem, right?
[06:01] <BigDaddy> LancerDragoon: so I have to make a temp admin and then activate those users after the install
[06:01] <jo_> hello
[06:01] <Haemoth> Does Gutsy have support for the UDF 2.5 filesystem built-in, or does that need to be installed separately?
[06:01] <nalioth> Shadix: well, using debian packages in Ubuntu is one sure way to wreck your system
[06:01] <LancerDragoon> BigDaddy: Ah, I see.
[06:01]  * LancerDragoon shows off his desktop: http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/3932/desktop8ik4.png
[06:02] <BigDaddy> It adds about 5 min to the install process. No big deal. I can go from one OS, wipe the HD, clean install and up and running in 25 minutes
[06:02] <Shadix> nalioth, oh
[06:02] <egkamp> can anyone help with getting a scroll pad to work with gutsy?
[06:02] <user__> Any floppy drive ppl in the room ? Disk is formated in ubuntu msdos format, bad block check on .  It takes more than a minute to mount it in ubuntu, but is instantly available to an xp machine in vm ware when enabled with vmware tools.   I haven't touched XP except for at work since Sept 20
[06:03] <Shadix> nalioth, is there any way to install Barry then or am I hooped?
[06:03] <chapium> egkamp: what is not working?
[06:03] <nalioth> Shadix: have you searched in synaptic for it?
[06:03] <LancerDragoon> I haven't touched Windows seriously since last year, I think.
[06:03] <egkamp> i can not scroll
[06:03] <Shadix> what is synaptic?
[06:03] <BigDaddy> DanaG: do you get garbled sound or no sound at all?
[06:03] <egkamp> the mouse works other than that
[06:03] <chapium> egkamp: have you checked mouse preferences?
[06:03] <BigDaddy> Shadix: Synaptic is the package manager for Ubuntu
[06:03] <DanaG> Not even silence, just an application hang.
[06:03] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Shadix about synaptic
[06:03] <Haemoth> Sadly, I need to use Windows to watch high defenition movies.
[06:03] <DanaG> It's like the system call never returns.
[06:04] <nalioth> Shadix: you should always try to use Ubuntu packages first
[06:04] <egkamp> the graphical mouse preferences utility doesn't have anything to do with scrolling
[06:04] <egkamp> i've looked at xorg.cong and it looks ok
[06:04] <BigDaddy> DanaG: do you have integrated soundcard or thindparty?
[06:04] <chapium> egkamp: do you mean a scroll wheel or a touchpad?
[06:04] <abbe> hi channel
[06:04] <nomasteryoda> but there is a tool for that called ksynaptics
[06:04] <LancerDragoon> Haemoth: Aye sir, too bad that Linux doesn't support HD videos that well.
[06:04] <liberion> anyone live in kentucky?
[06:04] <egkamp> chapium: i mean a laptop touchpad's scroll pad
[06:05] <abbe> I'm running gutsy and hotplug for network interface is not working.
[06:05] <egkamp> the part of the touchpad with the ridges
[06:05] <chapium> liberion: near ky
[06:05] <liberion> chapium, what state?
[06:05] <chapium> liberion: indiana
[06:05] <chapium> liberion: nowhere close to there at the moment
[06:05] <abbe> can anyone help me how to fix this ?
[06:05] <Haemoth> LancerDragoon, hopefully that can change in the future.
[06:06] <abbe> shall I modify udev rules directly or any other recommended way
[06:06] <nomasteryoda> abbe, for wireless or wired?
[06:06] <Haemoth> LancerDragoon, nice desktop, btw. ;]
[06:06]  * DanaG boots back to his real system.....
[06:06] <abbe> nomasteryoda: wired, USB network device, running cdc-ether module
[06:06] <lunks> Can I have more than one side pane on Nautilus?
[06:06] <liberion> chapium, my sis live in jeffersonville ,IN
[06:06] <LancerDragoon> Haemoth: Thanks! Worked quite a bit on it.
[06:07] <BigDaddy> DanaG left? I was trying to help!
[06:07] <nomasteryoda> hmmm, i've never used one of those on any of my ubuntu boxen.... i would think aliasing would be needed so the system sees it
[06:07] <abbe> nomasteryoda: whenever I plugin the USB cable, it should ifup, and whenever I plug out, it should ifdown
[06:07] <nomasteryoda> but hmho
[06:07] <chapium> BigDaddy: i'm also having sound capture problems
[06:07] <RCP> I need help with Wine
[06:07] <BigDaddy> chapium: what issues are you having?
[06:08] <BigDaddy> RCP: what do you need help with?
[06:08] <Lapinux> if im in a livecd session doing an install, is there a way to determin which drive grub will consider hd0?  just to double check...
[06:08] <nomasteryoda> i dumped networkmanager for wicd too.. works all the time
[06:08] <beterraba> do you know any application of linear algebra?
[06:08] <chapium> BigDaddy: sound works in general, but mic doesnt respond
[06:08] <RCP> I instilled Vnc and I need to know where the Folder that it is in
[06:08] <egkamp> linear algebra can be done with octave
[06:08] <abbe> networkmanager sucks
[06:08] <nomasteryoda> and does not ask me to enter a password once i've authenticated on a network... networkmanager is lame that way
[06:08] <beterraba> octave?
[06:08] <nomasteryoda> wicd rocks!
[06:09] <egkamp> maxima also does linear algebra
[06:09] <egkamp> octave is the matlab clone, we used it for NumAnal II
[06:09] <beterraba> ah ok
[06:09] <beterraba> but..
[06:09] <egkamp> maxima is symbolic
[06:09] <chapium> BigDaddy: i get this bizarre errror in sound prefs if i test it:  Failed to construct test pipeline for 'gconfaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat'
[06:09] <beterraba> something smaller
[06:09] <RCP> I instilled Vnc and I need to know where the Folder that it is in - Bigdaddy
[06:09] <beterraba> but cool
[06:09] <BigDaddy> chapium: lets start at the beginning. Do you have the mic plugged into the correct jack? Don't laugh, I still make that mistake on the front of my PC
[06:09] <beterraba> something i can do
[06:09] <egkamp> there is also a gnu linear programming app, i think
[06:09] <beterraba> =P
[06:10] <Haemoth> I have some minor problems with wicd. The wireless network does not reconnect if it goes down. Sometimes I need to plugin in the wired network, and then the wireless might show up again. Apart from that, its great. NetworkManager had be rebooting Ubuntu everytime my wireless went down.
[06:10] <BigDaddy> RCP: you are installing VNC through wine?
[06:10] <RCP> yes
[06:10] <nomasteryoda> abbe, when connected to my network (has 2 wifi routers with same name), it sees only the 1... if it is connected and all other noize is gone.... much nicer
[06:10] <chapium> BigDaddy: laptop, one mic on top, a plug in in front
[06:10] <Haemoth> *me
[06:10] <beterraba> you say the graphics?
[06:10] <RCP> hmm
[06:10] <RCP> Yes, Bigdaddy
[06:11] <BigDaddy> RCP: um, I don't know anything about that app, but isn't it native to linux?
[06:11] <RCP> I thnik
[06:11] <BigDaddy> chapium: damn, that would have been great if it was that simple
[06:11] <chapium> BigDaddy: haha, yes
[06:11] <BigDaddy> RCP: look in Synaptic
[06:11] <RCP> ok
[06:12] <BigDaddy> chapium: hold on
[06:12] <Haemoth> http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs23/f/2007/321/8/a/Linux_Desktop_by_wotanist.png
[06:12] <Haemoth> :D
[06:13] <BigDaddy> RCP: yeah it is in Synaptic
[06:13] <RCP> hmm....ok
[06:13] <BigDaddy> chapium: I am looking for the hardware/device manager in Ubuntu
[06:14] <chapium> BigDaddy: prefs -> hardware
[06:14] <BigDaddy> chapium: yeah I got it... can you find your sound capture device in that?
[06:14] <chapium> seems like it would be an administration tool, not preferences
[06:14] <Shadix> nalioth, i got a little farther but after checking and installing from synaptics I still get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45090/
[06:14] <lunks> How stable is it to install KDE 4 on Gutsy?
[06:15] <BigDaddy> Mine is AC'97 audio controller with NVidia chipset.
[06:15] <BigDaddy> chapium: that was what I thought as well about the location of the device manager
 I need to know where it instilled the files for VNC (where wine did)
[06:16] <sn00zer> how do you uninstall a program compiled from a tarball?
[06:16] <dudeicles> hello i'm having trouble with openGL
[06:16] <BigDaddy> RCP: what did you install? VNC4 or the server... which files are you wanting?
[06:16] <soleblaze> uh..is anyone else getting unsigned installation packages when they're running apt-get/synaptic?
[06:16] <RCP> The vnc4
[06:16]  * DaveyJ Take a Bow - Black Holes & Revelations (Japanese) - Muse (x«amarok)
[06:17] <chapium> BigDaddy:  its a bit cryptic.  The sound device is SB450 HDA Audio
[06:17] <soleblaze> I installed some stuff, and then I tried to sudo again and it started telling me my password was bad
[06:17] <nalioth> Shadix: check your server window, please
[06:17] <sidlet> RCP, By default, all wine installed files go in ~/.wine/drive_c/
[06:17] <dudeicles> here's what i'm getting trying to check if opengl is installed http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45088/
[06:17] <nalioth> DaveyJ: please turn that off  :)
[06:17] <Shadix> errr where is that
[06:17] <sidlet> that being the root of your re-created M$ directory structure
[06:17] <BigDaddy> RCP: oh wait never ming, WINE puts them in your /home directory then in .wine
[06:18] <BigDaddy> chapium: the sound device? it has to say capture device. Do you see that anywherE?
[06:18] <chapium> BigDaddy: it doesnt seem right though, it says the vendor is ati
[06:18] <RCP> Bigdaddy Im not finding it
[06:18] <BigDaddy> does ATI make sound cards?
[06:18] <BigDaddy> RCP: do you have hidden foles shown? press ctrl+h
[06:18] <chapium> BigDaddy: there are two "ALC883 Analog ALSA Capture Device"
[06:19] <Peddy> Can somebody help me? I get this error when trying to install Pidgin Plugin Pack from Synaptic: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/pidgin-plugin-pack_2.0.0-1_amd64.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/locale/en_AU/LC_MESSAGES/plugin_pack.mo', which is also in package purple-plugin-pack
[06:19] <cyberick> Does anyone have the problem with the HUGE fonts in the Login window?
[06:19] <BigDaddy> the path should be /home/RCP/.wine/program files/blah blah blah
[06:19] <underdawg> hey guys, what's a good linux supported vid card/tv card/both that will hook to a plasma tv?  I'm building a media center box
[06:19] <Peddy> There is nothing in ~/en-AU/LC_MESSAGES/
[06:19] <RCP> Thanks
[06:19] <BigDaddy> chapium: can you post a screen real quick?
[06:20] <BigDaddy> RCP: did you find it?
[06:20] <chapium> BigDaddy: sure
[06:20] <RCP> yes
[06:20] <newguyss> hi, I need to copy a folder from my desktop to /usr/local and its telling me that access is denied, how do I do that>?
[06:20] <RCP> Thanks Bigdaddy
[06:20] <BigDaddy> RCP: so are you good now?
[06:20] <RCP> yes
[06:20] <underdawg> !mediacenter
[06:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mediacenter - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:20] <sn00zer> how do you uninstall a program compiled from a tarball?
[06:20] <BigDaddy> RCP: hey no problem. glad to have helped
[06:20] <soleblaze> Hey, has anyone else here had problems with updating from the official server?  Getting unsigned packages errors?
[06:21] <Jausk> underdawg, Ubuntu Media Center?
[06:21]  * DaveyJ Starlight - Black Holes & Revelations (Japanese) - Muse (x«amarok)
[06:22] <cyberick> Does anyone have the problem with the HUGE fonts in the Login window?
[06:22] <newguyss> guys, anyhelp, I just want to copy a folder to the usd/local directory how to do that, its telling me that access is denied
[06:23] <Sogs> Hi there I am trying to mount my mdadm array and it comes up with [  484.789662] EXT3-fs error (device md0): ext3_check_descriptors: Block bitmap for group 8064 not in group (block 261114091)!
[06:23] <Sogs> [  484.854411] EXT3-fs: group descriptors corrupted!
[06:23] <kitaro> ôèãàñå êàê âàñ òóò ìíîãî :)
[06:23] <Sogs> Am I stuffed?
[06:23] <cyberick> Does anyone have the problem with the HUGE fonts in the Login window?
[06:23] <mikeo1> if i upgrade my motherboard on this comp will i still be able to boot ubuntu?
[06:24] <nalioth> mikeo1: if you stay with the same type of processor, you should be able to
[06:24] <mikeo1> its the same chipset but no longer micro atx and now will have a dedicated vid card
[06:24] <newguyss> cyberick: lol, good one, once I had to font at all there, I had to format the computer, lol
[06:24] <eckesicle> !repeat | cyberick
[06:24] <ubotu> cyberick: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:24] <mikeo1> cause it worked the last time when i upgraded an X2 to a Q6600
[06:24] <Ratman> ok, i installed clamav, how do I configure it?
[06:25] <chapium> BigDaddy: http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~mjchapma/dm.png
[06:25] <Ratman> its not on the applications menu.
[06:25] <nalioth> Ratman: look in your synaptic for "clamav" and pick a frontend for it
[06:26] <Ratman> in synaptic package manager?
[06:26] <cyberick> !patience
[06:26] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:27] <cyberick> o.O
[06:27] <nalioth> Ratman: yes
[06:27] <Kalamansi> hello im done installing ubuntu with x window 7.04 and its now my server..Q: how to boot in DOS mode? (without x window)..thanks
[06:27] <greenmanspirit> has anyone got gnome online desktop to build with jhbuild correctly?
[06:28] <newguyss> Kalamansi: use sudo
[06:28] <BigDaddy> chapium: have you searched google for this hardware yet?
[06:28] <Ratman> nalioth: it's not listed but comes up when I do a search..... which do I need to check?
[06:28] <subha> hi all
[06:29] <eckesicle> hello
[06:29] <kevin> hi
[06:29] <Kalamansi> newguyss: just type sudo when i restart pc?
[06:29] <nalioth> Ratman: you should have gotten a list of clamav frontends
[06:30] <subpar> does cd burning in ubuntu finalize the cd? and if so, how can I turn that off?
[06:30] <eckesicle> Kalamansi, do you want to access the terminal window, or start the computer without running X-windows?
[06:30] <eckesicle> !terminal | Kalamansi
[06:30] <ubotu> Kalamansi: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[06:30] <Ratman> nalioth: I have clamav and clamav-base but others are not installed like -dameon -data -docs ,etc.
[06:31] <lunz> how do i upgrade feisty to gutsy using cdrom?the upgrade dialog is not displayed. Any command line for upgrade?
[06:31] <subha>  i wnat to keep log in the server for different machines when i am installing ubuntu from a local server .how?
[06:31] <Kalamansi> eckesicle:  start my server without x window and also how to start with x window.thanks
[06:31] <nalioth> Ratman: you don't see "kclam" or any other frontend?
[06:31] <r-c> what app can i use with .rar files in ubuntu/kubuntu ?
[06:31] <Ratman> nalioth: there is a klamav is that it?
[06:31] <chapium> BigDaddy: from the looks of google i'm lucky to have sound :0
[06:32] <BigDaddy> chapium: lol, thats what i was thinking
[06:32] <nalioth> Ratman: that is one frontend. let me look a minute
[06:32] <Tony_> Greetings, super-noob here.  First time install with gnome.  I felt things were running slow, figured the "restricted ATI driver" would help, and now I get nothing on startup, just a blank screen.  I started in the diagnostic mode, but don't know how to turn off the ATI restricted driver from there.  Any help?
[06:32] <underdawg> hey guys, what's a good linux supported vid card/tv card/both that will hook to a plasma tv?  I'm building a media center box
[06:32] <Ratman> nalioth: ok, thanks.... I am not sure I am going to like linux!
[06:32] <BigDaddy> chapium: it appears to be similar to the winmodem of ol` hardware made for windows only
[06:32] <eckesicle> Kalamansi, Read this, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto
[06:32] <nalioth> Ratman: clamtk or avscan are both front ends for clamav
[06:33] <bulmer> Kalamansi-> why do you require to start without X and with X ?
[06:33] <nalioth> Ratman: there are no viruses in linux (and no need for clamav)
[06:33] <lunz> how do i upgrade feisty to gutsy using cdrom?the upgrade dialog is not displayed. Any command line for upgrade?
[06:33]  * DaveyJ Soldier's Poem - Black Holes & Revelations (Japanese) - Muse (x«amarok)
[06:33] <AdemoS> During Ubuntu setup getting a "paring error detected" message
[06:33] <Jausk> bye
[06:33] <newguyss> Kalamansi: I think you can choose which mode when you start
[06:33] <Ratman> nalioth: ok... I just don't understand this OS at all! :(  Thought it would be fun to learn but so far it is nothing but frustrating!
[06:33] <AdemoS> *parity erroro detected
[06:33] <r-c> what app can i use with .rar files in ubuntu/kubuntu ?
[06:34] <nalioth> Ratman: once you learn it, it won't change
[06:34] <BigDaddy> chapium: is your PC a Dell?
[06:34] <Drule> Good morning.
[06:34] <lunz> !update
[06:34] <cyberick> r-c: Do you want to extract .rar files? If so, just sudo aptitude unrar
[06:34] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[06:34] <Kalamansi> bulmer: i just want to know how to start my pc ubuntu without x and also how to start ubuntu with x...
[06:34] <Crozar> good morning Drule
[06:34] <Ratman> nalioth: I hope so...  thanks
[06:35] <Drule> Hey.
[06:35] <AdemoS> So does anyone know about this "parity error detected"?
[06:35] <lukas_> Hi everybody
[06:35] <Drule> it is a good day for ubuntu..
[06:35] <bulmer> Kalamansi-> go and start what you have now, if you need a console just ctrl+alt+F1 to F6
[06:35] <chapium> bigdaddy:  acer aspire 5100
[06:35] <Haemoth> Does Gutsy support UDF 2.5?
[06:35] <BigDaddy> chapium: shoots that down
[06:35] <josiahw> I am trying to convert a .dmg to a .iso using dmg2iso and when I do it in terminal it just stays blank for a LONG time as if its processing... is there a command i can use when doing dmg2iso.pl filename.dmg filename.iso so that I can see what its status is?
[06:35] <lukas_> Do you anythink speak Czech?
[06:36] <lunz> how do i upgrade feisty to gutsy using cdrom?the upgrade dialog is not displayed. Any command line for upgrade?
[06:36] <greenmanspirit> guessing thats a no, lol
[06:36] <lunks> !cz | lukas_
[06:36] <ubotu> lukas_: České uživatele žádáme, aby mluvili v kanále #ubuntu anglicky. Česky je možno se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Děkujeme.
[06:37] <Tony_> Hi all, I disabled my system by using the ATI restricted driver.  Does anyone know how to undo it and go back to the default driver from the recovery command line?  I can't even get back into gnome.
[06:37] <lukas_> Give please me driver for ATI radeon 9600
[06:37] <CubeXombi> Can someone lend me a hand with ATI Drivers, I've been goofing around trying to get them to work right since i moved to gutsy,
[06:37] <Tony_> Wow bad night for ATI I guess :)
[06:37] <CubeXombi> Tony_
[06:37] <CubeXombi> HA!
[06:37] <nalioth> lunz: is it the alternative cdrom ?
[06:37] <CubeXombi> I'll get you back in
[06:37] <Tixer> anyone in here have experience with IRoffer?
[06:37] <Tony_> sweet thx man
[06:37] <Crozar> its been the  8th day me and my windows friends are using UbuntU , and they are exited about this System , they even say this is how computers should be but not that HO3 ( windows ) that runs around with no protection
[06:38] <eckesicle> !ati | CubeXombi
[06:38] <ubotu> CubeXombi: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:38] <lunz> nalioth,it is a live cd
[06:38] <CubeXombi> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:38] <nalioth> lunz: you'll need the alternate cdrom to upgrade from
[06:38] <chapium> bigdaddy, thanks for the help.  I've got to get some rest
[06:38] <BigDaddy> chapium: aha... it's a known bug
[06:38] <josiahw> try this ATI and NVIDIA users: http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html             works great for me
[06:38] <CubeXombi> that "would" be a good read if i didn't already follow it and get
[06:38] <CubeXombi> Xlib:  extension "ATIFGLRXDRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:38] <lukas_> thanks you ubotu
[06:38] <BigDaddy> I just found it at launchpad
[06:38] <lunz> nalioth,how to get the alternate cd?why i cant uprade from the live cd?
[06:39] <meta4ical> Could anyone help me with Ubuntu 7.10 and my x800 pro, I'm trying to get the fglrx drivers working but I bootup with a black screen. I posted a thread on the forums (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3792186#post3792186) with what i've tried and my xorg.conf if anyones willing? :(
[06:39] <nalioth> lunz: i'm afraid not  :(
[06:39] <CubeXombi> meta4ical.. one second .. nothing to do with the drivers
[06:39] <Kalamansi> newguyss: i dont see any choices there when i start my ubuntu..what to type?is there a command to type there so i could login in dos mode?(without x window)
[06:39] <chapium> lunz: links to the alternate cds are usually on the same page as the normal one
[06:39] <BigDaddy> it is the same as the old winmodems. The HDA driver (and modem funny enough) are dependant upon windows
[06:39] <nalioth> ubotu: tell lunz about alternate
[06:39] <Crozar> meta4ical, can i clarify
[06:40] <chapium> BigDaddy: i guess that explains the modem jack on the laptop...
[06:40] <CubeXombi> meta4ical.. what happens when you boot, do you eventually get into X?
[06:40] <BigDaddy> chapium: how old is that lappy? was it made for Vista?
[06:40] <Crozar> meta4ical, its black screen you say ? nothing to see? nothing?
[06:40] <bulmer> Kalamansi there is no such thing as dos in linux...
[06:40] <sutabi> I sudo "rm" a file and now its in the trash but when I try to empty it, says permission error, anyone know how I would remove my trash?
[06:40] <chapium> BigDaddy: Vista Ready!
[06:40] <lunz> nalioth,so what should i do with the live cd if i can't upgrade it?
[06:40] <seanwlambert> Hey everyone
[06:40] <seanwlambert> Im new to ubuntu
[06:40] <meta4ical> CubeXombi: It goes to the Ubuntu progress bar as you're starting up, and then never reaches the login screen, goes black
[06:40] <xoRock> how to reinstall sound driver from recovery console
[06:40] <chapium> BigDaddy: its almost a year old
[06:40] <Crozar> meta4ical, if that computer is on press Ctrl + ALT + F4 , and if you see something then the screen is detected but the driver is not loaded for the current screen
[06:41] <BigDaddy> chapium: that is M$ speak for vendor lock-in
[06:41] <sutabi> seanwlambert: welcome :)
[06:41] <seanwlambert> sutabi: thanks
[06:41] <Crozar> sutabi, you want to remove permissions?
[06:41] <nalioth> lunz: pass it on to a windows using friend  :)
[06:41] <seanwlambert> I just figured out how to use pidgin as an IRC
[06:41] <sutabi> Crozar: I want to empty my trash...
[06:41] <newguyss> Kalamansi: what you mean by DOS mode, you need black screen where you can type commands?
[06:41] <BigDaddy> Kalamansi: there is no DOS mode. Remember? command line! and the option to boot into the cli should be in your grub menu
[06:41] <meta4ical> CubeXombi: I also tried ENVY since it worked on my x1550 but it lets me logon, then goes into a white screen
[06:41] <mike> l\
[06:41] <Crozar> sutabi, is that a new user in your desktop?
[06:41] <chapium> bigdaddy i'd prefer to run xp and keep the ram
[06:41] <meta4ical> Crozar: Alright I'll try that now
[06:41] <seanwlambert> I have finally been converted from the dark side (microsoft)
[06:41] <central> hello, I need to burn a cd with 800 mega, i find some cd with 870mega but i can't burn it, any special burner for that ?
[06:41] <meta4ical> brb
[06:41] <Crozar> sutabi, its probably because you added new users right?
[06:41] <BigDaddy> chapium: well, I am sorry I could not help you on that one
[06:42] <sutabi> Crozar: um.. well its my only user "sutabi" but I removed something as "root"
[06:42] <Crozar> sutabi, go to user groups and give Full Permission for a user it can do then everything
[06:42] <Kalamansi> bulmer: what to press when i want to use the x window?ctrl+alt+f2 for console right...what about if you want to get back in x window?thanks
[06:42] <Crozar> sutabi, lol thats why :/
[06:42] <CubeXombi> meta4ical you can restore the original Xorg by typing "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[06:42] <Crozar> sutabi, why do you remove root when its important for some jobs like that for instance
[06:42] <seanwlambert> anyone know how to install Ventrilo drivers?
[06:42] <bulmer> Kalamansi-> you use  /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[06:42] <newguyss> Kalamansi: tyoe exit
[06:42] <nalioth> Crozar: sudo works fine for those tasks
[06:42] <sutabi> Crozar: because it was in my /usr/local directory
[06:42] <bulmer> Kalamansi-> you use  /etc/init.d/gdm stop to also stop X
[06:42] <sutabi> and sudo rm did the trick
[06:43] <BigDaddy> crap... got caught. I gotta go to bed. Later all...
[06:43] <RCP> bigdaddy How can you use a webcam on liunx
[06:43] <RCP> hmm ok
[06:43] <sutabi> so now its in my user "sutabi" trash wih root permissions and I cant empty my trash
[06:43] <nalioth> RCP: search in synaptic for 'webcam'
[06:43] <Crozar> sutabi, linux is diffrent then windows its more secure and powerful it gives a user FULL BENEFIT , you should use it with no means of any problem ,i cant believe why everybody has some problems and in the end its a little issue or a conflict or maybe hardware ...most likely it can be fixed with some precise reading for accurate feedback on appointing to tasks
[06:43] <astro76> sutabi, rm does not move files to trash
[06:43] <root_> 这是哪里呀？
[06:44] <nalioth> 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[06:44] <CubeXombi> Xlib:  extension "ATIFGLRXDRI" missing on display ":0.0" Mean anything to anyone, cause to me it means my Driver is busted. (or shabbily installed)
[06:44] <sutabi> AstroI know....
[06:44] <Crozar> seanwlambert, you need ventrilo? did you try win(E) ?
[06:44] <root_> 我怎么进到这里了？
 ok now what do I do
[06:44] <sutabi> astro76:  ha I know it puts it in my trash... now I want it out but >.> how..
[06:44] <seanwlambert> crozar, yes. I have installed it and i can run it, but cannot talk or hear, only chat
[06:44] <central>  hello, I need to burn a cd with 800 mega, i find some cd with 870mega but i can't burn it, any special burner for that ?
[06:44] <Crozar> root_, !language
[06:44] <sutabi> I dont see .trash folder so I cant change the permossions
[06:44] <Crozar> english root_
[06:44] <seanwlambert> Im sure is a codec thing
[06:45] <nalioth> RCP: install whatever you find and read the instructions (i have no webcam)
[06:45] <astro76> sutabi, I said rm does NOT move files to your trash, you said you did sudo rm and now the files are in trash, this is impossible
[06:45] <astro76> sutabi, but anyway if you want to empty the trash, sudo rm -rf ~/.Trash/*
[06:45] <lunz> nalioth,thanks
[06:45] <Crozar> hmm seanwlambert for sound drivers and portings you must ask soundray but he isnt here atm
[06:45] <Crozar> sutabi, you removed root :/
[06:45] <seanwlambert> crozar, thanks anyway
[06:45] <Crozar> sutabi, trash can be deleted btw
[06:45] <sutabi> astro76: oh.. .Trash >.<
[06:45] <sutabi> grr
[06:46] <Crozar> sutabi, you can log in with nautalis
[06:46] <central> ?
[06:46] <CubeXombi> <meta4ical back in X now?
[06:46] <meta4ical> Crozar: Ctrl + Alt + F4 didn't do anything :P
[06:46] <Tony_> CubeXombi: Thanks, I'm back in.  The reconfigure changed things a little, but I'm at least back into gnome.  I think it backed up my config file.  How do I go in and look at the new one and the old one?  I'd like to duplicate everything exactly (it was working fine before) except for the driver, of course.
[06:46] <meta4ical> No, I can get back by reverting it to vesa but that doesn't really fix the problem
[06:47] <central>  hello, I need to burn a cd with 800 mega, i find some cd with 870mega but i can't burn it, any special burner for that ?
[06:47] <Crozar> no meta4ical ctrl alt f4 = msdos ( terminal )
[06:47] <astro76> msdos?
[06:47] <meta4ical> Crozar: what?
[06:47] <Crozar> meta4ical, if it havent :( then ? how can you do such work
[06:47] <Crozar> means you can start ubuntu ? meta4ical ?
[06:47] <sutabi> astro76: believe it or not as for me Gutsy removing anything that has been set to root permissions and I do "sudo rm" it ends up in my trash =_=
[06:47] <niru> I want to change the desktop text color
[06:47] <Crozar> astro76, i maen linux DOS
[06:47] <central> i need to burn ubuntustudio
[06:47] <niru> I added the following lines in .gtkrc-2.0
[06:47] <CubeXombi> Tony_ in terminal "ls /etc/X11/" you should see xorg.conf, it thers a .conf~ that should be the backup
[06:47] <central> 800mega
[06:47] <meta4ical> Sorry i'm kind of confused ><
[06:48] <niru> style "desktop-icon"
[06:48] <niru> {
[06:48] <niru>  NautilusIconContainer::normal_alpha = 255
[06:48] <niru>  text[NORMAL] = "#000000"
[06:48] <niru>  NautilusIconContainer::frame_text = 1
[06:48] <niru> }
[06:48] <niru>  class "GtkWidget" style "desktop-icon"
[06:48] <MidnighToker> sutabi: why are you deleting everything with root permissions!?
[06:48] <MidnighToker> niru, dont spam, pastebin
[06:48] <nalioth> ubotu: tell niru about paste
[06:48] <Crozar> meta4ical, laptop or pc?
[06:48] <niru> but the text comes with a patch now
[06:48] <meta4ical> Crozar: PC
[06:48] <Tony_> CubeXombi great thanks again
[06:48] <sutabi> MidnighToker: I wasn't just a folder in "/usr/local" netbeans to be percise
[06:48] <Crozar> hmmm weird meta4ical , ati cards can work normally i dunno why you want powerful driver when you can use the common one
[06:48] <jals> is there a way to get compiz/scale to behave exactly like expose?
[06:49] <MidnighToker> sutabi: ah, fair does, if its just the netbeans, for a moment then i thought you were really mad
[06:49] <MidnighToker> jals: exactly? yeah, with a load of trial and error
[06:49] <CubeXombi> Meta4ical what card do you have?
[06:49] <Crozar> jals, you mean to orginize windows as a table view infront of y our screen>/
[06:49] <MidnighToker> jals: or maybe some googling for mac themes/cloning?
[06:49] <jals> MidnighToker, well i mean more the button behavior
[06:49] <sutabi> MidnighToker: lol shoot 4 years ago with Mandrake I was made running as "root" as my primary user
[06:49] <meta4ical> Crozar: I ran 7.04 a few months back and loved it, i wanted to switch over from windows completely. I managed to get the only reason for me staying on windos (counterstrike) working. so that's why... i need it over the standard
[06:49] <Kalamansi> how to adjust my resolution?there is no options in desktop...thanks
[06:49] <jals> ie. press and hold f9, shows all windows
[06:49] <Crozar> jals, just go to options and bindings my friend
[06:49] <meta4ical> CubeXombi: It's an ati radeon x800 pro pci-e
[06:49] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Kalamansi about fixres
Ok now what (Im new to this)
[06:50] <jals> Crozar, i did try that, but it doesn't behave how i'd expect
[06:50] <Crozar> meta4ical, i see :/ gamers have problems
[06:50] <nalioth> RCP: i don't have a webcam  :(
[06:50] <nantax> hi, is rocketdock available for use in ubuntu?
[06:50] <MidnighToker> jals: yeah, you can with some messing about, i found it was actually more pleasant using some of the other desktop switching tho, there is a compiz control pannel where you can muck about to your hearts content
[06:50] <RCP> hmm
[06:50] <xinfang11> 怎么进中文频道呢？
[06:50] <Kalamansi> how to adjust my resolution?there is no options in desktop...like i want to be my screen and txt will be small txt...thanks
[06:50] <Crozar> meta4ical, most people here talk about help which is because of gaming lo
[06:50] <nalioth> 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[06:50] <meta4ical> Crozar: Wine and CS installed without a hitch, it was just getting the card to work, but that was a different card
[06:50] <sutabi> Kalamansi: Gusty?
 where do I go to use the app
[06:50] <sutabi> ermm Gutsy
[06:50] <nalioth> RCP: look in your menu
[06:50] <jals> if i bind to f9, hitting f9 brings up the windows but won't make them disappear again
[06:50] <meta4ical> Crozar: I never had any problems with getting the game to run/operate, just the video drivers
[06:50] <Kalamansi> sutabi: where is gutsy located?
[06:50] <Crozar> meta4ical, i see linux as a entertainment system , and get linux games like Quake ;)
[06:51] <sutabi> Kalamansi: no i mean are you running Ubuntu 7.10 aka Gutsy
 Like I said im new to this where is that at
[06:51] <jals> is there alternate way to bind so the key acts more like the <super> key
[06:51] <MidnighToker> jals: ah, i see what you mean -thats annoying. i think you might have to go googling -or into the #compiz chatroom(s)
[06:51] <Kalamansi> sutabi : 7.04
[06:51] <nalioth> RCP: at the top left, "Applications"
[06:51] <Crozar> jals, you must use the bindings , its a problem when you dont understand hwo to use it
[06:51] <nalioth> Kalamansi: see your PM from ubotu
[06:51] <Crozar> jals, go to #compiz channel and see how they will help you
[06:51] <sutabi> Kalamansi: blah =_= you have to do that manuelly via /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:51] <jals> ok, thanks MidnighToker, Crozar
[06:52] <windego40> anyone with some time want to help me set up WoW on abuntu 7.10?
[06:52] <sutabi> WoW works on linux!
[06:52] <sutabi> ?
[06:52] <windego40> i mean i have it set up its just running really slow
[06:52] <MidnighToker> wine
 thay are not in there
[06:52] <sutabi> oh pff lol
[06:52] <meta4ical> i had wow working with some random guide at 40fps : )
[06:52] <MidnighToker> lol
[06:52] <windego40> yeah :\
[06:52] <cowbud> is there unofficial support for feisty PPC style?
[06:52] <Crozar> its /j #compiz-fusion
[06:52] <Kalamansi> nalioth:  yeah thanks
[06:52] <MidnighToker> windego40: ati or nvidia?
[06:52] <Kalamansi> sutabi : whats the command there?
[06:52] <meta4ical> so can anyone assist with ym video card problem?
[06:52] <windego40> nvidia
[06:52] <nalioth> cowbud: is this channel ok?
[06:53] <cowbud> nalioth: huh?
[06:53] <nalioth> cowbud: unofficial PPC support?
[06:53] <MidnighToker> cowbud: ppc? ppc arch?
[06:53] <cowbud> MidnighToker: yeah
[06:53] <niru> can anybody help me in changing the desktop icon text color
[06:53] <MidnighToker> nice to see some ppc users about
[06:53] <windego40> midnighToker: ive tried getting the drivers for it but they dont work
[06:53] <sutabi> Kalamansi: googled: http://www.perpetualpc.net/srtd_resolution.html
[06:53] <cowbud> nalioth: uh i'd say since this is general ubuntu yes
[06:53] <Haemoth> Does Gutsy support UDF 2.5?
[06:53] <nalioth> ubotu: tell sutabi about fixres
[06:54] <nalioth> cowbud: we help with ppc Ubuntu
[06:54] <cowbud> MidnighToker: did some group of people go for getting ppc up?
[06:54] <nalioth> cowbud: PowerPC ubuntu is alive and well
[06:54] <sutabi> nalioth: how?
[06:54] <cowbud> nalioth: great, so I read that ubuntu dropped official ppc support..are there still packages? No kidding PowerPC is still alive in ubuntu? cause i don't see any feisty stuff..
[06:54] <sutabi> nalioth: wait lol I dont need to fix mine.. grr
[06:54] <MidnighToker> windego40: i dont use it, sorry man. which drivers dont work? nvidia binary?
[06:54] <cowbud> err gutsy hah
[06:54] <nalioth> cowbud: you can get Gutsy PowerPC images
[06:54] <sutabi> nalioth: that was Kalamansi's q
[06:55] <sidlet> How can I get ubuntu-desktop package to re-install on feisty without all the extra gaim bloat? Or do I have to let all that sit around on my desktop since it "depends" on it
[06:55] <cowbud> nalioth: so they aren't dropping support for it?
[06:55] <nalioth> sutabi: please use official support when able, is the point i'm making
[06:55] <sutabi> oh
[06:55] <nalioth> cowbud: if you have a powerpc question, please ask it
[06:55] <DerangedDingo> niru: i think that can be done through a GTK2 theme or via gconf-editor
[06:55] <cowbud> nalioth: see that is my question. Does ubuntu still support PPC?
[06:55] <niru> DerangedDingo, I have added some lines in gtkrc-2.0
[06:55] <niru> hidden file under root
[06:56] <windego40> MidnighToker: yeah i go to add/ remove applications and install the legacy driver but its still running very slow
[06:56] <niru> but what it did is just added some patches ro the text
[06:56] <MidnighToker> windego40: what card is it?
[06:56] <nalioth> cowbud: YES.
[06:56] <cowbud> nalioth: GODLIKE
[06:56] <niru> instead of chnaging the color
[06:56] <lockd> niru: i will figure out what to do after installing gconf-editor
[06:56] <windego40> MidnighToker: xfx6800 xtreme
[06:56] <MidnighToker> thats not such an old card. it needs the legacy drivers?
[06:57] <windego40> MidnighToker: well the others cant be installed for some reason
[06:57] <MidnighToker> windego40: i would sort out why, the legacy is not correct for that card
[06:58] <windego40> MidnighToker: for the other drivers it says"NVidia binary X.Org driver ('new' driver) cannot be installed on your computer type (i386). Either the application requires special hardware features or the vendor decided to not support your computer type."
[06:59] <MidnighToker> hehe, yeah, right
[06:59] <Tony_> CubeXombi: lol okay I'm updating my changes to my xorg.conf file in gedit, but when I try to save back the file, It doesn't allow me, no permissions.  Anyway to tell it to save from here, or do I have to safe the file elsewhere then copy it with sudo, or what?
[06:59] <windego40> what?
[06:59] <niru> lockd, ok
[06:59] <MidnighToker> Tony_: run gedit with gksudo
[06:59] <DerangedDingo> Tony_: ie, gksu gedit /path/to/file
[06:59] <lockd> niru: not sure if that is an option anywhere in gconf-editor
[07:00] <MidnighToker> windego40: dont know, thats very odd. computer type has to be supported.... are you up to date with anything
[07:00] <MidnighToker> everything?
[07:00] <Tony_> ach so, danke mein freunden
[07:00] <windego40> MidnighToker: i believe so
[07:00] <kona> evening everyone
[07:00] <windego40> hello
[07:01] <windego40> MidnighToker: is there a way to make sure i am?
[07:01] <MidnighToker> windego40: any idea what version of a) xorg you're running / b) nvidia-drivers its trying to install?
[07:01] <MidnighToker> windego40: update manager?
[07:01] <Peddy> Is anyone having a problem, where in gutsy, the shutdown dialogue makes the screen go black for a split second?
[07:01] <cubedsi> is the only way to get direct x under linux to vmware windows?
[07:01] <nalioth> cubedsi: yep
[07:01] <MidnighToker> cubedsi: you mean let windows use DRI?
[07:01] <kona> Peddy - yeah
[07:01] <DerangedDingo> cubedsi: pretty much.
[07:01] <Peddy> kona: did you find a fix?
[07:02] <kona> not yet
[07:02] <cubedsi> DRI?
[07:02] <Peddy> kona: what graphics card do you have?
[07:02] <MidnighToker> direct rendoring.... accelerated 3d inside windows? direct x
[07:02] <kona> kyro 32 mb AGP card
[07:02] <windego40> MidnightToker: i forgot to mention that i am new to linux. how would i check for those two conditions?
[07:02] <lockd> cubedsi: wine can also emulate directx, but only older versions and it's not perfect
[07:02] <Peddy> same with nvidia 8800. Its just like a black flicker, then it jerkily fades back, right?
[07:03] <cubedsi> yeah i want dx 10
[07:03] <MidnighToker> windego40: sorry, i'm really new to ubuntu, i have no idea.  -could talk you through it in a couple of others, but you want someone who's familiar with ubuntu
[07:03] <cubedsi> i have 2 geforce 8600gt 256mb
[07:03] <MidnighToker> cubedsi: it does DX8, and even then its only the DX7 calls that it supports properly, so give that one up
[07:03] <cubedsi> but couldn't i vmware xp 64 or vista 64?
[07:04] <lockd> cubedsi: chances are any of those games are going to require a full VM
[07:04] <lockd> cubedsi: If, and only if, you have a 64 bit processor
[07:04] <MidnighToker> cubedsi: http://www.vmware.com/support/ws55/doc/ws_vidsound_d3d.html
[07:04] <cubedsi> thanks guys
[07:04] <lockd> cubedsi: i think it may also take 64 bit linux
[07:04] <MidnighToker> cubedsi: yeah, 64bit processor and then you still cant use DX10 ;)
[07:04] <Kamandag> how can i change monitor frequency b4 booting? box was auto set to 75hz. my lcd has lower freq
[07:04] <cubedsi> and yeah i got a asus quadfather
[07:04] <Peddy> kona: are you using compiz?
[07:04] <MidnighToker> lockd: yeah, it should do
[07:04] <rubydiamond> Can I install fully functional Internet Explore 6 on Ubuntu?
[07:04] <Shadix> kona: nice nick I ride a Kona MTB
[07:05] <lockd> rubydiamond: using wine, yes
[07:05] <lockd> rubydiamond: but fully functional and ie6 are mutually exclusive
[07:05] <rubydiamond> lockd, will all the functionality will work?
[07:05] <rubydiamond> lockd, thats very true
[07:05] <xxw> hello, any one knows how to handle serial interrupt in C?
[07:05] <Peddy> Shadix: Kona does not seem to be responding
[07:05] <bruenig> xxw, might try ##c
[07:05] <Peddy> xD
[07:05] <MidnighToker> Can anyone help windego40 get nvidia-drivers installed on his box please?
[07:05] <Peddy> cyas
[07:05] <rubydiamond> IE4 was the biggest virus till date on the earth
[07:06] <Peddy> rubydiamond: no that would be windows
[07:06] <xxw> .... people there ask me to come here because i am using Ubuntu
[07:06] <lockd> rubydiamond: what functionality? there may be some functionality which couldn't work (like dialup and things)
[07:06] <hid3> Morning everyone. I'm writing a script on ubuntu system and I'd like tu use mail notification. However I gert `mail`-command not found. What package should I install so I'll have `mail` binary?
[07:06] <MidnighToker> rubydiamond: exchange 5.0 -open relay
[07:06] <xxw> and people here ask me to to there....
[07:06] <windego40> MidnighToker: ive tried enabling the accelerated graphics driver but it doesnt let me
[07:06] <bruenig> xxw, yeah they probably told you that because they didn't want to deal with an ubuntuer
[07:06] <rubydiamond> yea.. windows 95 was the biggest virus on the earth till date
[07:06] <xxw> okay... but, any one?
[07:06]  * MidnighToker still thinks 3.1 was ok
[07:06] <Peddy> rubydiamond: you forgot Windows Vista
[07:06] <rubydiamond> MidnighToker, what is that?
[07:06] <lockd> hid3: mailutils
[07:06] <bruenig> xxw, but your question has nothing to do with ubuntu, it has to do with c
[07:06] <kona> I'm here
[07:06] <kona> I just hang out elsewhere is all
[07:07] <hid3> lockd: thanks
[07:07] <Peddy> kona: are you using CompizFusion?
[07:07] <cHeChA_cE_EmO> hello....
[07:07] <MidnighToker> rubydiamond: windows 3.1, before 3.11 introduced the networking mess, but its all OT
[07:07] <xxw> SORRY about that
[07:07] <newguyss> hi again, how do I do that * Set an environment variable JAVA_HOME to the pathname of the directory
[07:07] <newguyss>   into which you installed the JDK release.
[07:07] <josiahw> how do i put a .img onto a flashdrive?
[07:07] <cHeChA_cE_EmO> ....always in heart...
[07:07] <Tony_> Okay, so I got another one for ya:  The reason I was playing with my vid driver was because when I try to view a flash video (like youtube), my whole machine locks up.  Like I have to actually hold down my power button to restart.  I tried using adobe flash, and the other one, but no cigar.  The adobe one sort of worked, but also locked the machine up.  I could move the mouse around, but...
[07:07] <Tony_> ...that was it.  So, two questions: 1) any way to interrupt in a situation like that and kill the offending app?  and 2) why might it be happening in the first place?
[07:07] <lockd> hid3: it -should- be telling you this at the command prompt
[07:07] <kona> Nick is from a kona I used to ride. I ride a Cannondale now - actually I'm selling it.
[07:07] <kona> Peddy - NO. My card at 32 MB can't handle it.
[07:07] <MidnighToker> Tony_: you have amd64?
[07:07] <Kalamansi> how i couldnt find any drivers for my epson stylus cx2900 with scanner and print...anybody wants to help i appreciate it..thanks
[07:08] <Tony_> Nope
[07:08] <MidnighToker> hmm, adobe flash is nasty, but its usually ok on 32bit
[07:09] <cHeChA_cE_EmO> c'mon chat with me...
[07:09] <defrysk> newguyss, example export path setting : export PATH="${PATH}:/opt/jdk1.7.0/jre/bin/
[07:09] <Tony_> MidnighToker: AMD Athlon though, but it's an old 1.3GHz one
[07:09] <nalioth> cHeChA_cE_EmO: chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic   :)
[07:09] <lockd> it's kind of interesting to find modern proprietary unix games in this millenium
[07:10] <kona> Ahhh I remember the old aMD athlon days. Thank goodness I have a 2.4 GHz P4 now.
[07:10] <newguyss> defrysk: thanks, but where is the JDK installed? i installed it from the synaptic manager and cant find it
[07:10] <MidnighToker> Tony_: odd.
[07:10] <Kalamansi> kona : but p4 2.4gh sucks
[07:10] <SpeakerMania> Every time I open FileZilla I get a dialog box that states: "can't open file '/usr/share/mime-info/gimp.keys' (error 5: Input/output error)" and it is really starting to annoy. What can I do?
[07:11] <kona> Not compared to what I used to have - 1 GHz celeron
[07:11] <cubedsi> (WW) NVIDIA(0): TwinView and SLI are not compatibile.  Disabling TwinView. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45097/
[07:11] <defrysk> alloos1, dont change your nick just like that , it makes it hard to communicate
[07:11] <holycow> amd athlons served us very well
[07:11] <holycow> they typically blew the intels away at a far lower price point
[07:11] <holycow> lol
[07:11] <holycow> you can't be serious?
[07:11] <alloos1> defrysk: I need to enter the java room and I need to be registered, I have one registered nick only
[07:12] <Tony_> I wouldn't mind troubleshooting the problem, except for the fact that I have to hard restart my machine everytime I go to youtube.  >:(   Is there any special "rescue" key combo I can use to bring up a terminal or process manager of some kind?
[07:12] <lockd> SpeakerMania: sudo touch /usr/share/mime-info/gimp.keys ? though I doubt that would work
[07:12] <cubedsi> checkout my pastebin if anyone wants to help me out with twinview and SLI
[07:12] <nalioth> alloos1: /msg nickserv help register
[07:12] <Tony_> I thought Linux was supposed to be impervious to lock ups
[07:12] <defrysk> alloos1, if you want to know where java is installed you wil have to check the properties section of synaptic of the package you installed
[07:13] <SpeakerMania> lockd, Nope. I get "cannot touch `/usr/share/mime-info/gimp.keys': Input/output error"
[07:14] <Tony_> And just for future reference, does ubuntu work with hyperthreading or multi-core processors?
[07:14] <holycow> !media
[07:14] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[07:14] <nalioth> Tony_: yes
[07:14] <defrysk> alloos1, otherwise slocate jdk | grep bin
[07:14] <sn00zer> Tony_: if firefox crashes the system try ctrl+alt+backspace to restart the xserver
[07:14] <Tony_> Hrm, yeah tried that one.  :(
[07:14] <lockd> i'm having a bit of a problem with midi playback - only calling timidity from the command line works
[07:15] <alloos1> defrysk: thanks alot you are great help, but which file I need to change to get this: * Set an environment variable JAVA_HOME to the pathname of the directory
[07:15] <alloos1>   into which you installed the JDK release.
[07:15] <sn00zer> Tony_: did you try ctrl+alt+f1 then log in and use top to find the resource hog then kill <process id>
[07:16] <sn00zer> between those two methods i've pretty much always been able to avoid a hard reboot
[07:16] <Tony_> I don't think I used ctrl alt f1, I'll check that one out
[07:16] <Tony_> thx
[07:16] <sn00zer> Tony_: ctrl+alt+f7 should bring you back to gui
[07:16] <sn00zer> sometimes the switch takes a minute or two for the gui to come back
[07:18] <defrysk> alloos1, what would you like to do with setting path ? to get it to work in firefox ?
[07:18] <MidnighToker> astro76: BigDaddy: if either of you get this, try right clicking on a chanel name in xchat, it gives you all sorts of options :)
[07:19] <alloos1> defrysk: iam tryiong to install geoserver
[07:19] <defrysk> alloos1, what jave version did you install ?
[07:20] <alloos1> sun-java-jdk
[07:20] <MilitantPotat1> Whats a program with a GUI to limit the bandwidth a program uses?
[07:21] <defrysk> alloos1, as far as I cnow with installing that package the path environment is also automagically set
[07:22] <alloos1> defrysk: thats what I get @ubuntu:/usr/local$ geoserver/bin/startup.sh
[07:22] <alloos1> The JAVA_HOME environment variable is not defined
[07:22] <alloos1> This environment variable is needed to run this program
[07:22] <defrysk> alloos1, have you read this ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/161882
[07:23] <lbakalinsky> dfd
[07:24] <alloos1> defrysk: iam on feisty, still problem?
[07:24] <defrysk> alloos1, anyway an example way of setting your path :  export PATH="${PATH}:/opt/jdk1.7.0/jre/bin/"
[07:24] <defrysk> alloos1, find you jave and set it in .bashrc as a single line at the bottom
[07:24] <defrysk> your java*
[07:25] <defrysk> I have to go for now alloos1 so maybe somone else can help you further with setting your path
[07:25] <alloos1> defrysk: thank you so much, it was so kind of you
[07:25] <alloos1> will try to get it
[07:27] <sn00zer> what irc client are yall using and why do you like it more than xchat?
[07:27] <dwf_starband> i just used aptoncd to copy a bunch of packages to a fresh gutsy install that isnt connected to the internet, it only copied the packages, and didnt install them(thats how its supposed to work) is there an easy way to select them all for install?
[07:33] <CubeXombi> time to see if my video card works
[07:34] <ztomic> hope it's not an ATI card
[07:34] <ztomic> hehe
[07:35] <rubydiamond> how to add multi-line comments in command line svn .. for doing a commit
[07:36] <choudesh> rubydiamond: that is a question more directed toward #svn
[07:36] <ztomic> indeed
[07:36] <KenSentMe> My mouse doesnt work anymore. When i plug it into my laptop dmesg says this: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 9 | usb 3-2: device not accepting address 9, error -71 . Is my mouse broken, or Ubuntu?
[07:37] <Shadix> hrmmm my comp dosn't shutdown on it's own
[07:37] <Shadix> sits at deactiveating device eth1
[07:37] <choudesh> KenSentMe: please pastebin `sudo lspci -vv' and 'sudo dmesg'
[07:37] <choudesh> !bin | KenSentMe
[07:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:37] <KenSentMe> choudesh, i know pastebin
[07:38] <choudesh> !pastebin | KenSentMe
[07:38] <ubotu> KenSentMe: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:38] <Shadix> hey who has installed "Barry" before (blackberry synce device)
[07:38] <choudesh> Shadix: what seems to be the issue?
[07:38] <Shadix> well when i boot back up I'll pastebin the msg
[07:39] <choudesh> Shadix: ok.
[07:39] <windego40> hey guys i just found a guide that helped me get WoW working on my comp and it looks like it has a butload of other good info for any problems you might have. http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy
[07:39] <KenSentMe> choudesh, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45101/
[07:39] <choudesh> windego40: what is the direct link to it?
[07:40] <windego40> that one i believe
[07:40] <windego40> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy
[07:40] <munk__> everytime i reboot there is a file that keeps popping up compiz.save how can i make it stop popping up at boot?
[07:41] <choudesh> KenSentMe: all devices that I see (doesn't make it true though) seem to support: KenSentMe you mouse seems to be supported. I may be a /dev issue
[07:42] <Shadix> choudesh, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45102/
[07:42] <envy0pla> Thats a fantastic link there Windego40 Thank you
[07:42] <windego40> no problem :)
[07:42] <KenSentMe> choudesh, the mouse worked before, so i know it is supported. I'll check with a different mouse
[07:44] <v1k1ng1001> I have a quick question
[07:44] <v1k1ng1001> how do i know if my ati drivers are working?
[07:44] <v1k1ng1001> is there something I can punch into the terminal?
[07:44] <eckesicle> v1k1ng1001, maybe lsmod | grep ati
[07:44] <buttercups> v1k1ng1001, fglrxinfo
[07:46] <chuy_max> v1k1ng1001, glxinfo | grep endering
[07:46] <v1k1ng1001> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[07:46] <v1k1ng1001> OpenGL renderer string: ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9600/9700 Series
[07:46] <v1k1ng1001> OpenGL version string: 2.0.6958 Release
[07:47] <choudesh> KenSentMe: try to fugde the settings.
[07:47] <jmdc> My monitor goes into standby a couple of seconds into the installation boot. I can still hear the cd spinning though.
[07:47] <v1k1ng1001> jm:  I have the sme problem
[07:47] <chuy_max> v1k1ng1001, that's if you want to know if you have direct rendering, otherwise, check xorg.conf and see what driver you are using
[07:47] <v1k1ng1001> lol
[07:48] <choudesh> Shadix: I am unsure of your problem and I don't want to suggest a fix. Ask in a few hours (+3 Hours from now EST) and you should get multiple responces
[07:48] <Lapinux> well i guess that settles that
[07:48] <v1k1ng1001> What I did was use envy  :(
[07:49] <Lapinux> no linux on my desktop machine
[07:49] <choudesh> v1k1ng1001: what seems to be the issue/
[07:49] <windego40> alright well goodnight everyone
[07:49] <xTheGoat121x> So... it seems that something in Ubuntu randomly grabs my CPU cycles.... overall it's not that big of a deal, cuz all I have to do is restart... but I'd rather know what's causing it
[07:49] <choudesh> Lapinux: what no linux - restate your issue.
[07:49] <v1k1ng1001> I'm having the same problem as jmdc and my screen doesn't look quite right
[07:50] <choudesh> xTheGoat121x: please describe your issue more
[07:50] <alecwh> I need to make a pamphlet for class tomorrow, and I can't find ANY app for linux to help me. Can anyone help?
[07:50] <Lapinux> choudesh: been fighting with grub, cant get my system to boot no matter what i try
[07:50] <choudesh> Lapinux: what seems to be the issue?
[07:50] <Lapinux> wow
[07:51] <Lapinux> choudesh: i get either error 2 or 17 from grub and no boot
[07:51] <jmdc> Let's make sure it really is the same: I'm using the alternative install cd, and a couple seconds after the installer starts up (a second or too after the logger daemons start up, I see a message flashed (too brief to read) and then the monitor goes into standby mode.
[07:52] <xTheGoat121x> choudesh, all right.  I'll be doing my normal things (IM, Music, chat, etc), which normally only eats maybe 5-10% CPU... but sometimes, seemingly randomly, my CPU load will shoot up to 90-100% usage, and not come down, no matter what I close.  I try looking at running processes, anything that might be using the CPU, but nothing shows.
[07:52] <v1k1ng1001> jmdc:  same wit me
[07:52] <jmdc> Oh, and this is on 10 year old hardware.
[07:52] <firebird619> I have a question. I have cable Internet and it is really slow tonight, and at times, I have to disconnect the power cord to the modem to reset it and then run sudo invoke-rc.d networking restart because web pages will not load at all. I have never had this problem and going by the modem lights, it isn't losing its signal. Aside from the possibility the net is just slow tonight, could it be something else, settings in Ubuntu or someth
[07:52]  * v1k1ng1001 did get broacom up and running
[07:52] <Haemoth> xTheGoat121x: My NetworkManager did that to my CPU all the time. Check if you have the same problem.
[07:53] <xTheGoat121x> Haemoth, did it show up in your system monitor?
[07:53] <Haemoth> xTheGoat121x: Yeah it did.
[07:54] <choudesh> xTheGoat121x: I suffer the same issue. Accept my machine will stall. I am currently investigating the issue. I personally suspect the same issue that causes slow transfer.
[07:54] <themoebius> is there any reason why the eclipse-cdt package is still version 3.x instead of 4.x in gutsy? how can I get the new version?
[07:54] <xTheGoat121x> Haemoth, unfortunately, nothing shows up in System Monitor as eating the CPU cycles.
[07:55] <xTheGoat121x> choudesh, ouch, that's brutal.
[07:55] <choudesh> xTheGoat121x: I know. I would suggest turning off the tracker deamon
[07:56] <choudesh> !tracer | xTheGoat121x
[07:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tracer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:56] <choudesh> !tracker | xTheGoat121x
[07:56] <ubotu> xTheGoat121x: Services to index files for fast searching include: Beagle (front-ends: beagle, catfish, gnome-main-menu, mozilla-beagle for !GNOME; kerry, kio-beagle for !KDE; beaglefs for !CLI) - Tracker (tracker-search-tool, libdeskbar-tracker for GNOME; tracker-utils for CLI) - Strigi (strigi-applet, strigi-client for KDE, strigi-utils for CLI) - Kat (for KDE) - Pinot (and pinot-applet for GNOME) - Doodle (for CLI)
[07:56] <choudesh> ubotu: you should know that I speak of. ;-)
[07:56] <sn00zer> how long does it take tracker to index?
[07:56] <v1k1ng1001> fglrxinfo
[07:56] <v1k1ng1001>    gives me this:
[07:57] <amer> hi, can i use fish protocol with nautilus?
[07:57] <sn00zer> i let it go for over 12 hrs one day and it never finished, i have around 200gb of files
[07:57] <v1k1ng1001> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[07:57] <v1k1ng1001> OpenGL renderer string: ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9600/9700 Series
[07:57] <v1k1ng1001> OpenGL version string: 2.0.6958 Release
[07:57] <xTheGoat121x> choudesh, actually.... I don't use Tracker.  I'm waiting for 8.04 before I upgrade from 7.04
[07:57] <choudesh> sn00zer: depends on what you index.
[07:57] <v1k1ng1001> does that mean I have the drivers installed properly?
[07:57] <sn00zer> choudesh, mostly media files
[07:58] <jmdc> firebird619: Sometimes ISPs start throttling customers that they see using P2P, bittorent and the like. So it might be your ISP being mean to you. Otherwise, if you made any changes to your network lately, that would be useful to know.
[07:58] <choudesh> xTheGoat121x: then I can't explain it. I myself suffer from freeze ups afters I kill a huge process like azureus or a long java
[07:58] <buttercups> v1k1ng1001, yes
[07:58] <v1k1ng1001> :D
[07:58] <v1k1ng1001> thanks
[07:58] <v1k1ng1001> now it's on to the next problem which is the same thing as jmdc
[07:58] <v1k1ng1001> slow boot
[07:59] <v1k1ng1001> :(
[07:59] <CubeXombi> I think I broke my Video drivers..
[07:59] <punzada> !wintv
[07:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wintv - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:59] <CubeXombi> fun times...
[07:59] <v1k1ng1001> excrutiatingly slow
[07:59] <punzada> !hauppage
[07:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hauppage - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:59] <choudesh> xTheGoat121x: I run a beefy VM, when it comes to ubuntu, quad 3.4 ghz with 33GB of RAM
[07:59] <punzada> what the hell do you need 30 gigs of ram for
[08:00] <choudesh> xTheGoat121x: and it still freezes after a huge process, X or something else....even XKILL is slow... slower than debian
[08:00] <punzada> thats pointless no FSB would keep up
[08:00] <CubeXombi> Xlib:  extension "ATIFGLRXDRI" missing on display ":0.0" <-- Mean anything to anyone..
[08:00] <firebird619> jmdc: Well I do not use p2p at all and I haven't used bittorrent at all lately. The only thing I changed networking wise is so that the Wired Connection in Ubuntu isn't in roaming mode because that seemed to cause Internet problems with me having to restart networking all the time.
[08:00] <smmagic> 30GB of RAM
[08:00] <v1k1ng1001> half life 7 requires 33gigs of ram
[08:00] <v1k1ng1001> but it's not coming out until 2019
[08:01] <WinterWeaver> have any of you tried disabling IPv6 ?? I had slow app load time, and boot time, until I disabled IPv6. Now everything is better
[08:01] <v1k1ng1001> he's planning ahead
[08:01] <jmdc> firebird619: hrm... do you have any way of testing this with other computers?
[08:01] <v1k1ng1001> what is IPv6?
[08:01] <jmdc> IP is the internet protocol
[08:01] <holycow> oh!
 Xlib:  extension "ATIFGLRXDRI" missing on display ":0.0" <-- Mean anything to anyone..
[08:01] <choudesh> v1k1ng1001: 33GB of RAM is the optimum memory solution given the bottle neck of memory. please do the math and you will see. ;--)
[08:01] <holycow> okay here we go ... any sound experts around? here comes a question
[08:01] <jmdc> it is the numbers that web addresses are turned into
[08:02] <nenolod> CubeXombi, you're using fglrx OpenGL library without the fglrx driver
[08:02] <WinterWeaver> !ipv6
[08:02] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[08:02] <holycow> my gutsy RANDOMLY has sound on and off depending on the reboot ... this seems to be common on the forums
[08:02] <v1k1ng1001> gotcha
[08:02] <jmdc> they are in the form xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx - clearly 100 billion numbers is not enough! ;-)
[08:02] <holycow> i've discovered that i have a /dev/audio and a /dev/audio1 device
[08:02] <choudesh> holycow: please link to the forums
[08:02] <holycow> it would seem that the wrong device is being chosen as the default one
[08:02] <holycow> how would that be set again?
[08:02] <CubeXombi> nenolod - well i guess that would explain why it's missing..
[08:03] <holycow> choudesh: i don't want to spam i'll post a fix on the forums instead when i figure out why its defaulting to the wrong device
[08:03] <firebird619> jmdc: no, unfortunately not. I have never had it act this way before where it is really slow and I have to restart networking or restart the pc. I have had cable a little over a year now. Before that I was on dial-up.
[08:03] <v1k1ng1001> jmdc:  did you catch this page:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:03] <jmdc> v1k1ng1001: Thanks!
[08:03] <choudesh> holycow: your more than welcome to think to the forums.
[08:04] <WinterWeaver> firebird
[08:04] <v1k1ng1001> i've been reading some and I think the slow boot might be attributable to resolution issues
[08:04] <Alloosh> hi, iam getting this message in terminal what is that: main.c: WARNING: called SUID root, but not in group 'pulse-rt'.
[08:04] <WinterWeaver> !ipv6 > firebird619
[08:04] <choudesh> holycow: ~link that is.
[08:04] <firebird619> jmdc: I was able to get into here just fine, but for example, I cannot load any web sites right now, it times out.
[08:04] <MilitantPotat1> Any trickle users here?
[08:04] <choudesh> !ipv6 | firebird619
[08:04] <ubotu> firebird619: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[08:04] <v1k1ng1001> and my splash screen is what is worrying me most right now
[08:04] <choudesh> WinterWeaver: ;-)
[08:04] <WinterWeaver> ^_^
[08:05] <choudesh> v1k1ng1001: why is that?
[08:05] <jmdc> firebird619: You might have a problem with dns. But, why that would show up now is hard to fathom
[08:05] <WinterWeaver> thx :P
[08:05] <v1k1ng1001> I'm worried that ubuntu is hanging at boot because it does not detect my monitor on my lap top
[08:05] <firebird619> WinterWeaver: Thanks, I will give that a try. Can't make it any slower when sites won't load in the first place.
[08:05] <choudesh> v1k1ng1001: please post your laptop
[08:05] <v1k1ng1001> and this is why everything looks a little bit off even though ati drivers are installed
[08:06] <CubeXombi> killing X to find out .. WOOT MURDAH!
[08:06] <firebird619> jmdc: Would using, for example OpenDNS or something help out. I have read about OpenDNS before but never used it on Linux. I used to use it on Windows though, when I used windows.
[08:06] <v1k1ng1001> my computer is a gateway 7405GX
[08:06] <MilitantPotat1> v1k1ng1001: !xserver
[08:06] <MilitantPotat1> err
[08:06] <v1k1ng1001> amd64, ati radeon 9600, 1280X800
[08:06] <MilitantPotat1> v1k1ng1001 | !xserver
[08:07] <MilitantPotat1> I really should get some sleep
[08:07] <choudesh> firebird619: please look @ http://www.opendns.com. the only thing you need to change is you DNS address on a given route. If you don't know how, please ask.
[08:07] <firebird619> WinterWeaver: Thankfully the site with how to disable IPv6 loaded for me so I can read how to do it. :-)
[08:07] <MilitantPotat1> !xserver | v1k1ng1001
[08:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:07] <jmdc> firebird619: I'm not sure, not really a networking expert. But, you could do this to test your dns service: nslookup google.com
[08:07] <ztomic> !xorg
[08:07] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:07] <choudesh> !abuse
[08:07] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:08] <MilitantPotat1> !xconfig | v1k1ng1001
[08:08] <ubotu> v1k1ng1001: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg » - To configure only the driver and resolution, type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh » - See also !FixRes
[08:08] <CubeXombi> apparently fglrx will be the death of me
[08:08] <firebird619> jmdc: nslookup google.com worked, it brought up the Server: and Address: very quickly.
[08:08] <MilitantPotat1> viking, do the second command
[08:08] <v1k1ng1001> yeah, I have that webpage already
[08:09] <v1k1ng1001> it's a bit over my head
[08:09] <ztomic> CubeXombi: I have terrible luck with fglrx but the xserver drivers work fine.
[08:09] <v1k1ng1001> ok
[08:10] <ztomic> xorg even
[08:10] <CubeXombi> ztomic, i had NO problems with the open drivers in edgy / feisty, .. gutsy on the oher hand, well.. abysmal
[08:10] <jmdc> firebird619: okay, then I think your isp is probably just having a bad night. but that's just a guess. It happens every once in a while...
[08:10] <v1k1ng1001> militant:  xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[08:10] <v1k1ng1001>    file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20071119021015
[08:10] <ztomic> CubeXombi: I am running an ATI 9550 with xorg driver and OGL works great.
[08:11] <ztomic> also on my other computer a 7200 works great
[08:11] <v1k1ng1001> that's bad right?
[08:11] <CubeXombi> ztomic i was getting about 400fps in glxgears
[08:11] <firebird619> jmdc: Ok, Thanks for the help.
[08:12] <ztomic>  1699.649 FPS
[08:12] <ztomic> xorg drive
[08:12] <ztomic> r
[08:12] <MilitantPotat1> v1k1ng1001: no, it made a backup
[08:13] <firebird619> choudesh: I do know how to change the DNS addresses, but the www.opendns.com site won't load, nor will most sites. Could you tell me what the addresses are? If I remember from Windows, they are <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>. Is that right?
[08:13] <MilitantPotat1> v1k1ng1001: log out and back in, or do ctrl+alt+backspace if you dont have anything open
[08:13] <jmdc> firebird619: hey no problem. If it doesn't go away in a day or so come back here and some networking guru can perform the deep magic for you
[08:13] <ztomic> CubeXombi: the only problem is that Compiz doesn't work but- oh well!
[08:13] <choudesh> firebird619: seems to be a dns issue
[08:13] <choudesh> !dns
[08:13] <ubotu> DNS is an acronym for Domain Name System, and is an internet system used to translate names into IP Address.
[08:14] <firebird619> jmdc: Ok, Thanks.
[08:14] <CubeXombi> ztomic, hmmm compiz ran fine for me
[08:14] <jmdc> v1k1ng1001: I think I missed something. How is it that you have a console at all?
[08:14] <ztomic> CubeXombi: with xorg-ati driver?
[08:15] <firebird619> choudesh: Would trying OpenDNS be a good idea then? Are those addresses that I typed the correct ones?
[08:15] <MilitantPotat1> CubeXombi: what's going on?
[08:15] <pewpewarrows> I just installed Ubuntu 7.10 on my laptop with an ATI graphics chip, and my glxgears is getting something like 80 FPS, is there something I might have forgotten to do?
[08:15] <jmdc> firebird: which addresses?
[08:15] <MilitantPotat1> pewpewarrows: enable restricted drivers?
[08:15] <v1k1ng1001> MilitantPotat1, restarted x
[08:16] <CubeXombi> MilitantPotat1 - My drivers suck, but I'm trying to fix em..
[08:16] <ztomic> CubeXombi: actually, and this is funny, Compiz works with my 7200 but not my 9550 using xorg driver.
[08:16] <MilitantPotat1> whoa there's two of me?
[08:16] <firebird619> jmdc: for OpenDNS. I can't load their site so I can't check them.  <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>?
[08:16] <Jangari> how does one unsave a session?
[08:16] <MilitantPotat1> CubeXombi: suck how?
[08:16] <v1k1ng1001> the compiz cube is pretty cool
[08:17] <v1k1ng1001> at least that's working now
[08:17] <ztomic> MilitantPotat1: it's ATI
[08:17] <Jangari> i suppose just close all programs and save the session...
[08:17] <CubeXombi> MilitantPotat1 - well I just broke them.. but that was tottaly my fault.. just trying to revert back,
[08:17] <jmdc> firebird619: I don't think openDNS will solve your problem, since nslookup works.
[08:17] <MilitantPotato> v1k1ng1001: in terminal type fglrxinfo
[08:18] <MilitantPotato> Jangari: that's what I had to do
[08:18] <firebird619> jmdc: Ok, I can leave DNS how it is then. I did disable IPv6. I will restart the PC now and see if there is any improvement.
[08:18] <jmdc> choudesh: why do you think firebird's problem is dns related?
[08:18] <jmdc> well, good luck to you
[08:19] <v1k1ng1001> MilitantPotato, display: :0.0  screen: 0
[08:19] <v1k1ng1001> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[08:19] <v1k1ng1001> OpenGL renderer string: ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9600/9700 Series
[08:19] <v1k1ng1001> OpenGL version string: 2.0.6958 Release
[08:19] <firebird619> jmdc: Thanks. If it is better after restart, I'll come back here and let you know.
[08:19] <jmdc> firebird619: I still am inclined to blame your isp, since nothing on your end changed.
[08:19] <jmdc> firebird619: that would be great
[08:19] <CubeXombi> killin x one more time
[08:19] <Jangari> i need to backup my entire system on another machine as a condition for installing linux on it, (my work machine) so what's the best way to do that?
[08:20] <choudesh> jmdc: no-  I don't.
[08:20] <MilitantPotato> v1k1ng1001: your resolution is wrong I take it?
[08:20] <firebird619> jmdc: Yes, and it probably is, but I have never had slow performance from my ISP. I will restart now and see what happens. Thank you all for your help.
[08:20] <v1k1ng1001> something to that effect
[08:20] <jmdc> choudesh: okay, I must of misunderstood
[08:20] <eckesicle> Jangari, is it linux now?
[08:20] <jmdc> firebird619: see you
[08:20] <v1k1ng1001> and I think that is what is causing my boot to hang
[08:20] <v1k1ng1001> but I'm not sure
[08:20] <Jangari> no
[08:21] <pewpewarrows> MilitantPotato: it doesn't say any restricted drivers are available.  and my fglrxinfo shows OpenGL vendor Tungsten Graphics and renderer as Mesa, which just seems wrong
[08:21] <Jangari> i need to backup my xp system in case things go pair-shaped
[08:21] <v1k1ng1001> feisty installed just fine, but everything looks bigger in gutsy even though compiz is working
[08:21] <eckesicle> Jangari, ask in #windows
[08:21] <Jangari> true
[08:21] <Jangari> alright
[08:21] <eckesicle> :)
[08:21] <MilitantPotato> v1k1ng1001: have you gone to System>prefrences>Screen Resolution
[08:21] <buttercups> v1k1ng1001, you reconfigured your x?
[08:22] <v1k1ng1001> yeah, it reports the right screen resolution
[08:22] <MilitantPotato> v1k1ng1001: is everything bigger or just icons?
[08:22] <v1k1ng1001> everything seems a bit bigger
[08:22] <MilitantPotato> pewpewarrows: what model of ATI card?
[08:23] <buttercups> v1k1ng1001, well once you reboot, you wont be using the fglrx driver anymore, the one you wanted info about earlier
[08:23] <v1k1ng1001> MilitantPotato, although I might be paranoid because I know the login screen is definitely bigger...and I suspect it has something to do with my slow boot time
[08:23] <pewpewarrows> MilitantPotato: ATI Radeon IGP 320m
[08:24] <firebird619> jmdc: unfortunately, it still is slow. Hopefully it will be better tomorrow.
[08:24] <v1k1ng1001> buttercups, that's fine as long as things work
[08:24] <jmdc> firebird619: dang.
[08:24] <choudesh> firebird619: what is slow?
[08:24] <MilitantPotato> 320m?
[08:24] <MilitantPotato> new to me...
[08:24] <buttercups> v1k1ng1001, alright as long as you no the fglrx driver is gone since you reconfigured
[08:24] <ztomic> screen size problems in gutsy - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=225339 The important part is  SubSection.
[08:25] <MilitantPotato> buttercups: he's using the ATI driver
[08:25] <MilitantPotato> v1k1ng1001: do glxgears
[08:25] <firebird619> choudesh: the loading of Web pages, some work, others are slow, and most just time out and don't load at all.
[08:25] <v1k1ng1001> gears r good
[08:25] <Kalamansi> hello is there any applications that have IM,YM,IRC,Googletalk,MSN?aside from GAIM...Gaim is weak..I always DC...
[08:25] <buttercups> MilitantPotato, no hes using fglrx proprietary driver
[08:25] <MilitantPotato> made by ATI isn't it?
[08:26] <Jangari> v1k1ng1001: do you mean like fonts and text is bigger, not fitting on pages when it should, etc?
[08:26] <Jangari> that happened when i upgraded to gutsy too
[08:26] <firebird619> choudesh: For example, google loads right away, but ubuntu.com doesn't load at all, just sits there and eventually times out.
[08:26] <choudesh> firebird619: argh. let me check my severs. where are you located?
[08:26] <MilitantPotato> buttercups: yea those are the 8.42.3 drivers
[08:27] <MilitantPotato> that he's using
[08:27] <pewpewarrows> MilitantPotato: correction, my chi is an IGP 340m, not a 320m
[08:27] <pewpewarrows> *chip
[08:27] <animimotus> someone can say me why sed -ie 's,#\(mkdir -p /dev/bus\),\1,' /etc/init.d/mountdevsubfs.sh     works but not  sed -ie 's/#\(mkdir -p /dev/bus\)/\1/' /etc/init.d/mountdevsubfs.sh    ?
[08:27] <MilitantPotato> Graphics chip?
[08:27] <firebird619> choudesh: Minnesota
[08:27] <v1k1ng1001> Jangari, yeah, you know how in feisty everything is bigger in the live cd and then, once you install and support your card etc, things get smaller, that's what I'm worried about
[08:27] <ClericDelta> Hi, I'm actually a noob at Linux, just to confess right now. But, I am having a problem with my mplayer plug-in and actually, anything that plays videos. The screen is extremely darkened. What happened?
[08:27] <buttercups> MilitantPotato, hes not anymore, he reconfigured, hes now using the default ati driver installed by default
[08:27] <hwnorth> Question ....  Im running Vista right now and want to run ubuntu ... do I ned to format my drive ... and do a full backup of all my files .. or will unbuntu be able to save/read my vista file (ie pics and word docs)
[08:28] <choudesh> firebird619: for me personally - all ubuntu websies are acceeeliby
[08:28] <MilitantPotato> buttercups: no, v1k1ng1001 is using the ATI source drivers from www.amd.com
[08:28] <CubeXombi> WOoOo It's still broken..
[08:28] <buttercups> MilitantPotato, he was until you told him to reconfigure, once he reboots it will be gone
[08:28] <firebird619> choudesh: They aren't for me, www.ubuntu.com is sitll trying to load.
[08:28] <Jangari> probably wise to back up all your data anyway, hwnorth
[08:28] <v1k1ng1001> I'm going to reboot and we'll see
[08:28] <v1k1ng1001> :D
[08:29] <jmdc> Kalamansi: I really don't want to start ranting or anything, but you'll get much better results if your questions aren't stated in the form of an insult that shows you didn't even bother to *Try* to use google to help yourself
[08:29] <v1k1ng1001> be forewarned my boots take a few minutes
[08:29] <v1k1ng1001> :D
[08:29] <ztomic> kewl
[08:29] <MilitantPotato> buttercups: reloading Xserver is enough
[08:30] <hwnorth> Jangari .. thanks ... so right from Vista I can do just instal ubuntu 64 bit ... and it does all I need ... other than back up of files just in case ?
[08:30] <CubeXombi> so .. my google fu is weak and my drivers are still .. "broken"
[08:30] <Kalamansi> jmdc: are you using gaim?
[08:30] <MilitantPotato> buttercups: all that does is change the xorg.conf, and he restarted Xserver, so unless he went about uninstalling the drivers it will still load them, so long as he chose fglrx while reconfiguring
[08:30] <Kalamansi> jmdc: which is cool?pidgin or gaim?
[08:30] <pewpewarrows> I'm going to try playing around with a few different drivers, I'll brb...
[08:30] <MilitantPotato> Kalamansi: same thing, pidgin is the newer version.
[08:31] <MilitantPotato> but pidgin is better IMO
[08:31] <jmdc> Kalamansi: gaim had to change names because it is too much like aim
[08:31] <buttercups> MilitantPotato, right, and did you tell him to make sure he choose fglrx during reconfigure?
[08:31] <Kalamansi> jmdc : i see
[08:31] <ztomic> CubeXombi: have you tried #ldconfig
[08:32] <RCP> How do I instill wine on ubuntu 6.06??
[08:32] <CubeXombi> nope
[08:32] <Kalamansi> MilitantPotato: how to get pidgin?im not good in typing in ubuntu.im a windows migrating to ubuntu
[08:32] <Jangari> well, hwnorth, i'm about to install ubuntu on a work machine and i'm gonna back up everything, on a full recovery disk
[08:32] <MilitantPotato> buttercups: when he came back I had him check fglrxinfo
[08:33] <Jangari> as well as transferring all files to a removable hard drive, because i'll then want to transfer them back onto the machine after install
[08:33] <RCP> I need Help???
[08:33] <RCP> anyone???
[08:33] <MilitantPotato> buttercups: it said he's using the ATI drivers...
[08:33] <MilitantPotato> !wine | RCP
[08:33] <ubotu> RCP: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[08:33] <CubeXombi> > Xlib:  extension "ATIFGLRXDRI" missing on display  <-- super happy funtime message
[08:33] <MilitantPotato> CubeXombi: what driver is installed?
[08:34] <firebird619> While I am here and thinking about it, I had messed with sound servers, I tried OSS 4, per instructions I found on a site earlier today. Sound was very static so I followed the steps over and reversed them to get rid of oss, which the changes were installing a .deb file and blacklisting snd stuff, and now with ALSA, for example, I cannot play music in Exaile or Rhythmbox and play a youtube video at the same time. If I pause one the ot
[08:34] <firebird619> have never had this issue, my sound card has always been able to play multiple things at once. What did I mess up and how can I fix it?
[08:34] <incorrect> for some strange reason i have really large fonts,  like my X server is running with 120dpi fonts, however the font control panel shows i have 96dpi fonts
[08:34] <MilitantPotato> CubeXombi: if it's the ATI drivers from AMD's website, can you pastebin your xorg.conf file for me?
[08:34] <hwnorth> Jangari ... ok... kewl .. thanks .. maybe I can get this installed and actually have a Ferrari laptop that runs like one finally ...
[08:34] <CubeXombi> MilitantPotato.. it's funny you ask,, I'm trying to go back to the open driver, botched install from ATI's
[08:35] <Jangari> ferrarri?
[08:35] <Kalamansi> how to install pidgin MilitantPotato?
[08:35] <Jangari> -r
[08:35] <inversekinetix> mmm, has anyone tried the windows 3d desktop?
[08:35] <Jangari> Kalamansi: pidgin ships with 7.10
[08:35] <MilitantPotato> Kalamansi: feisty or gutsy?
[08:35] <hwnorth> Jangari .... acer ferrari 5000 laptop ... hasnt run very well since I got it, and in buying it .. it only comes with Vista
[08:35] <Jangari> well there's ya problem
[08:35] <ztomic> CubeXombi: just add "ati" to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:36] <Kalamansi> MilitantPotato : i dont understand what feisty and gutsy...
[08:36] <v1k1ng1001> compiz is still running
[08:36] <v1k1ng1001> everything's cool except for boot time
[08:36] <Kalamansi> MilitantPotato : pidgin for desktop
[08:36] <CubeXombi> ztomic if only it were taht easy..
[08:36] <eckesicle> inversekinetix, what is that?
[08:36] <jmdc> kalamansi: Look in applications->internet. If its not there, use the add/remove bottom at the bottom of the applications menu
[08:36] <v1k1ng1001> and size
[08:36] <MilitantPotato> Kalamansi: ubuntu 7.04 feisty fawn or 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon
[08:36] <Kalamansi> jangari : i have 7.04
[08:36] <inversekinetix> eckesicle: http://www.otakusoftware.com/deskspace/
[08:36] <Kalamansi> 7.04
[08:36] <MilitantPotato> Kalamansi: one second.
[08:36] <ztomic> CubeXombi: what am I missing?
[08:37] <Kalamansi> ok
[08:37] <RCP> MilitantPotato I need hlep with this
[08:37] <CubeXombi> ztomic, already have "ati" as my driver
[08:37] <eckesicle> Kalamansi, Go to http://www.pidgin.im/download/source/
[08:37] <MilitantPotato> !radeon
[08:37] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:37] <buttercups> v1k1ng1001, whats fglrxinfo show after rebooting?
[08:38] <ztomic> CubeXombi: so whats the problem?
[08:38] <eckesicle> Kalamansi, start terminal, type tar -xvf pidgin-2.2.2.tar.gz; cd pidgin-2.2.2; ./configure; make; sudo make install
[08:38] <CubeXombi> ztomic- > Xlib:  extension "ATIFGLRXDRI" missing on display  <-- super happy funtime message
[08:38] <v1k1ng1001> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[08:38] <domor> Does anyone know how to install the NVIDIA Kernel
[08:38] <v1k1ng1001> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Incbuttercups,
[08:38] <v1k1ng1001> OpenGL renderer string: ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9600/9700 Series
[08:38] <v1k1ng1001> OpenGL version string: 2.0.6958 Release
[08:38] <buttercups> v1k1ng1001, k
[08:38] <beerfa1> Why would apt-get complain about packages like build-essential, g++, libnfts-3g5, and more being automatically installed an no longer needed? Some of these must be manually installed and needed
[08:39] <relapse> hi
[08:39] <v1k1ng1001> Jangari, any luck
[08:39] <v1k1ng1001> ??
[08:39] <relapse> for some reason, today when i went to turn off my laptop, the shutdown and restart icons are missing, all i get are "switch user, log off, suspend, and hibernate"
[08:40] <eckesicle> inversekinetix, well look at that they even ripped of KDE background image if you scroll down and look at the screens a bit down
[08:40] <slimjimflim> hello.  can anyone tell me how i can reinstall grub from a livecd?
[08:40] <eckesicle> http://www.otakusoftware.com/deskspace/images/video_rotate_static_background.swf
[08:40] <v1k1ng1001> Jangari, are you also having the slow boot problem???
[08:40] <CubeXombi> ztomic, I'm pretty sure that the ATI Binary driver "borked" something when i attemted to install it
[08:40] <Kalamansi> eckesicle: eckesicle:
[08:40] <patricio> networkmanager stopped auto-dhcp'ing or finding my network connections(lan and wlan), accesspoints nearby are not listed anymore (kde 3.5.8, knetworkmanager 0.2), but it's not knetworkmanager but network-manager-kde + network-manager, anyway. what shall I do? is this a dbus/hal issue?I can only go with "manual configuration", and I have to connect wlan/lan via commandline-orders..
[08:40] <Kalamansi> tar: pidgin-2.2.2.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[08:40] <Kalamansi> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[08:40] <Kalamansi> bash: cd: pidgin-2.2.2: No such file or directory
[08:41] <Kalamansi> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[08:41] <Kalamansi> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[08:41] <Kalamansi> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[08:41] <CubeXombi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45108/   <-- My Xorg.conf
[08:41] <inversekinetix> eckesicle: its all good
[08:41] <tazz> how do i get my computer to update its time from a ntp server?
[08:41] <jmdc> RCP: what is your question?
[08:41] <domor> Does anyone know how to install the NVIDIA Kernel
[08:41] <eckesicle> Kalamansi, are you in the same directory that you downloaded the file to?
[08:42] <domor> http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/100.14.19/README/chapter-04-section-03.html
[08:42] <JaccoH> I upgraded from 7.04 to 7.10 on one machine. Its a Dell Poweredge with this BNX2 NIC in it. It is not working (the nic). Mii-tool says: SIOCGMIIPHY on 'eth0' failed: Resource temporarily unavailable
[08:42] <Kalamansi> eckesicle: yes
[08:42] <JaccoH> I know bnx2 is crappy. But atleast it worked before.
[08:42] <eckesicle> type ls | grep pidgin
[08:43] <Kalamansi> eckesicle: but i dont know how to download.i didnt start yet. how to download ?
[08:43] <MilitantPotato> Who had the 340m?
[08:43] <eckesicle> oh
[08:43] <eckesicle> okay
[08:43] <v1k1ng1001> tazz:  right click on the time/date bar and go into adjust date and time
[08:43] <eckesicle> just type
[08:43] <eckesicle> wget http://kent.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/pidgin/pidgin-2.2.2.tar.bz2
[08:43] <CubeXombi> MilitantPotato thats me
[08:43] <MilitantPotato> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[08:43] <Varka> slimjimflim: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:43] <MilitantPotato> CubeXombi: you want that driver.
[08:43] <slimjimflim> Yarka, i didn't install windows though
[08:43] <eckesicle> Kalamansi, now do this again:  tar -xvf pidgin-2.2.2.tar.gz; cd pidgin-2.2.2; ./configure; make; sudo make install
[08:43] <MilitantPotato> CubeXombi: the new FGLRX drivers wont support your onboard video card (it's really really old I take it)
[08:44] <MilitantPotato> Who wanted Pidgin?
[08:44] <domor> Does anyone know how to install the NVIDIA Kernel
[08:44] <Varka> slimjimflim: doenst matter
[08:44] <slimjimflim> k
[08:44] <SpeCon> hi all,  i just installed python-msn with apt-get install  and some other nice things. But i cannot find it in any menu of internet
[08:44] <SpeCon> were does unbuntu install these files
[08:44] <SpeCon> i'm not regular user of linux so i wanna learn about it
[08:45] <CubeXombi> MilitantPotato: Thanx, (I was actualy tring to install 8.28.. for kicks.. look where that gets me :!)
[08:45] <CubeXombi> Killing X BRB
[08:45] <JaccoH> so any1 with bnx2 nic?
[08:46] <juancho> hola
[08:46] <ztomic> CubeXombi: god! I hate the new ATI site at AMD.
[08:46] <MilitantPotato> eckesicle: shouldn't he do checkinstall -D ?
[08:46] <Varka> SpeCon: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=python-msn&version=gutsy&arch=all
[08:47] <MilitantPotato> sudo ./configure && sudo make && sudo checkinstall -D
[08:47] <MilitantPotato> That would prevent him from having issues with dependencies...
[08:47] <MilitantPotato> easier to uninstall too
[08:47] <Shadix> MILITANT POTATO!!! THE WEAPON OF MASHED DESTRUCTION!!!
[08:48] <brobostigon> hi
[08:48] <Drule> Anyone here experienced with JACK? I'm trying to get MIDI playback to work so I can use my keyboard.
[08:48] <MilitantPotato> FEAR ME MORTALS!
[08:48] <Shadix> lol
[08:48] <Shadix> hey who has used Barry in the pase
[08:48] <Shadix> past
[08:48] <MilitantPotato> Shadix: mashed destruction is a new one, nice :)
[08:49] <jimjam> I'm trying to access my NTFS partitions. They show up in Computer like normal, but I am "not privileged to mount the volume." Any ideas?
[08:49] <eckesicle> MilitantPotato, is that necessary?
[08:49] <SatManUK> guys im having a small problem - i can't seem to open any shoutcast stations. i have tried using just about every media player under the sun - am I missing a plugin somewhere?
[08:49] <Shadix> :P
[08:49] <MilitantPotato> eckesicle: no, but it's a better route IMO
[08:49] <skeeel> jimjam it work as root ?
[08:49] <Shadix> GN all
[08:49] <MilitantPotato> eckesicle: from what I've read atleast, not sure how reliable that is though.
[08:49] <ztomic> CubeXombi: what method did you use to install the binary?
[08:49] <jimjam> skeeel: How would I try that?
[08:49] <eckesicle> MilitantPotato, may well be so
[08:49] <skeeel> sudo your mount command
[08:50] <slimjimflim> Yarka, http://pastebin.ca/783629
[08:50] <eckesicle> but it is not part of standard ubuntu installation
[08:50] <skeeel> sudo first
[08:50] <patricio> networkmanager stopped auto-dhcp'ing or finding my network connections(lan and wlan), accesspoints nearby are not listed anymore (kde 3.5.8, knetworkmanager 0.2), but it's not knetworkmanager but network-manager-kde + network-manager, anyway. what shall I do? is this a dbus/hal issue?I can only go with "manual configuration", and I have to connect wlan/lan via commandline-orders..
[08:50] <mjn> ???
[08:50] <domor> Has anyone here used envy
[08:50] <CubeXombi> ztomic, a horribly old how-to Back to using the open driver though... just had to apt-get remove --purge xorg-driver-fglrx, to clean up the mess it caused
[08:50] <jmdc> jimjam: I believe the default setting is to not allow regular users to access ntfs, because the ntfs drivers can loose data. In practice, they are very stable though and home users can probably use them without fear.
[08:50] <eckesicle> Any opinions against running X on ubuntu server?
[08:51] <tazz> ok when i try to access systemsettings i get "kio (KSycoca): WARNING: Found version 93, expecting version 94 or higher."and then i exit
[08:51] <skeeel> eckesicle, no
[08:51] <eckesicle> someone was advised against it and I cannot figure out why
[08:51] <CubeXombi> MilitantPotato, Damn, I'd been looking for that page for a while, thanks, just had to purge the old fglrx