[03:12] <mustard5> nomed, that's the most assistance I can offer you, sorry...I'm not an expert on display problems
[03:12] <Zealot87> how do i turn my swap on?
[03:13] <nomed> mustard5: sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange <--- empty string .. dpkg-reconfigure ... generate an xorg.conf not usable with 1024x768
[03:13] <toran> has anyone else had any font problems with torsmo? I can't change its font at all
[03:13] <mahangu_> Zealot87, ubuntu will find and use your swap if you specified it during the install
[03:13] <clineco> sn9, yes, except breezy-backports which i cannot get source packages
[03:13] <DarkSeid> has the HAL problem been fixed yet?
[03:13] <Zealot87> i did, but it hasnt used any of it yet
[03:13] <Zealot87> well except for the 12.2 mb but thats been on since it installed
[03:13] <mustard5> nomed, that's the most assistance I can offer you, sorry...I'm not an expert on display problems
[03:13] <nomed> DarkSeid: maybe you could take a look on changelog ?
[03:14] <sn9> clineco: if you have main restricted universe multiverse and hoary-extras, you don't need others
[03:14] <onkarshinde> ubotu: smeg is somebody said smeg was a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Installed by default Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy). For Ubuntu 5.04 (Hoary) get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[03:14] <ubotu> ...but smeg is already something else...
[03:14] <Zealot87> so ubuntu doesnt use the swap space that much?
[03:14] <onkarshinde> ubotu: forget smeg
[03:14] <ubotu> onkarshinde: i forgot smeg
[03:14] <mustard5> Zealot87, depends on your system
[03:14] <onkarshinde> ubotu: smeg is somebody said smeg was a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Installed by default Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy). For Ubuntu 5.04 (Hoary) get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[03:14] <Zealot87> how so
[03:15] <mahangu_> Zealot87, it does, when your memory runs low
[03:15] <mustard5> Zealot87, if you don't have much RAM you would use it a lot
[03:15] <onkarshinde> !smeg
[03:15] <ubotu> onkarshinde: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[03:15] <Zealot87> my memory runs low alot of the time! :P
[03:15] <mahangu_> haha
[03:15] <onkarshinde> smeg is somebody said smeg was a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Installed by default Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy). For Ubuntu 5.04 (Hoary) get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[03:15] <wickedpuppy> Zealot87, how much ram you got ??
[03:15] <Zealot87> it will be at hundred percent use when i have firefox, gaim, xchat, amaraok all open
[03:15] <Zealot87> 512mb
[03:15] <onkarshinde> how to add some definition to the bot?
[03:15] <wickedpuppy> i got 512 too ...
[03:15] <mustard5> Zealot87, you have ample memory :D
[03:15] <mahangu_> Zealot87, generally your swap takes care of itself
[03:16] <mustard5> Zealot87, I'm on 256mb
[03:16] <wickedpuppy> LOL
[03:16] <onkarshinde> !smeg
[03:16] <ubotu> onkarshinde: What?
[03:16] <mahangu_> Zealot87, im on 512 and i have lots of windows open
[03:16] <Zealot87> maybe my processor is slow then
[03:16] <mahangu_> dont worry about it
[03:16] <tyliu> Hi ,everyone ,i updated to 510,my java applicaion use JDBC connect to mysql is bad ,Why ?who can help me ?
[03:16] <Zealot87> does ubuntu use a lot of processor power?
[03:16] <mahangu_> Zealot87, what is slow?
[03:16] <Zealot87> 1.1 ghz
[03:16] <mahangu_> opening new programs?
[03:16] <mahangu_> switching windows
[03:16] <mahangu_> what
[03:16] <mustard5> Zealot is the problem when you first start using the computer after booting up?  Could be system processes running in the background doing houseword
[03:16] <Zealot87> umm
[03:17] <mustard5> *houseword
[03:17] <mahangu_> Zealot87, applications > system tools> system monitor
[03:17] <mustard5> *housework
[03:17] <Zealot87> no it just seems firefox is slow moving around and doing stuff
[03:17] <mahangu_> click the resources tab
[03:17] <clineco> sn9, how do i put hoary-extras on sources.list?
[03:17] <onkarshinde> ubotu: smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Installed by default in Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy). For Ubuntu 5.04 (Hoary) get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[03:17] <ubotu> onkarshinde: okay
[03:17] <intelikey> Zealot87 as a general rule linux doesn't use swap space unless it has less than x% ram free.    however most apps allocate ram.  that is claim it as used even though there is noting written too it.   which means that if you run the same system with 128m ram and no swap   or 2g ram and 4g swap  you probably wont ever notice a differance unless you actually use all of the 128m
[03:17] <pitti> DarkSeid: dude, I have about 20 different hal bugs in bugzilla :-) Which one do you mean?
[03:17] <onkarshinde> !smeg
[03:17] <ubotu> hmm... smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Installed by default in Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy). For Ubuntu 5.04 (Hoary) get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[03:17] <tyliu> Hi ,everyone ,i updated to 510,my java applicaion use JDBC connect to mysql is bad ,Why ?who can help me ? ps :my adsl was't ok in startup
[03:18] <tyliu> ?
[03:18] <sn9> clineco: deb http://acm.cs.umn.edu/ubp/ hoary-extras main restricted universe multiverse
[03:18] <mustard5> 0_o
[03:18] <sn9> !zh
[03:18] <ubotu> sn9: I give up, what is it?
[03:19] <Zealot87> ok i gues im just imagining things
[03:19] <Zealot87> ha
[03:19] <Zealot87> byebye
[03:19] <angel_> ping me
[03:19] <intelikey> Zealot87 also the same apps running on the same system with one 128m ram stick  one time and 2 1g sticks another time will show drastickly different memory usage because of allocating.
[03:19] <Lord_Maynoth> hey do you guys know freeciv will not install from the add/remove programs applet?
[03:20] <sn9> tyliu: which java were you using?
[03:21] <tyliu> use j2sdk1.42_09
[03:21] <intelikey> i lag.......
[03:21] <agabus> ive finally got my ubuntu installed on my laptop. im working on getting ndiswrappers to get installed. i run through a few steps and get to 'sudo modprode ndiswrapper' then the computer freezes and i have to hard shutdown. any help?
[03:21] <tyliu> mysql version is 4.1
[03:21] <onkarshinde> Lord_Maynoth: I suppose FreeCiv is not in main repos.
[03:21] <onkarshinde> Any idea when HP custon CD of breezy will be available?
[03:21] <sn9> tyliu: sun java or blackdown?
[03:21] <tyliu> sun java
[03:21] <DarkSeid> well it still looks as if the HAL is borked
[03:21] <DarkSeid> ooh well
[03:22] <DarkSeid> maybe sometime this weel
[03:22] <DarkSeid> week too
[03:22] <specialbuddy> Failed to fetch http://us.http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/Release.gpg  Could not resolve 'us.http'
[03:22] <specialbuddy> Failed to fetch http://us.http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/source/Sources.gz  Could not resolve 'us.http'
[03:22] <specialbuddy> Failed to fetch http://us.http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/restricted/source/Sources.gz  Could not resolve 'us.http'
[03:22] <specialbuddy> Reading package lists... Done
[03:22] <specialbuddy> anyone know what that means
[03:22] <sn9> tyliu: where did you install sun java from?
[03:22] <agabus> anyone?
[03:22] <RockyBurt> when i do an apt-get update i get the following:    W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:22] <mustard5> !tell specialbuddy about pastebin
[03:23] <BluesRocker> hoe to run a script?
[03:23] <specialbuddy> tell mustard5 that I've been there
[03:23] <jabra> anyone know of a channel for linux digitial camera ppl
[03:23] <onkarshinde> specialbuddy: what does that http://pastebin thing is doing in between the repos link?
[03:23] <mustard5> specialbuddy, don't paste in this channel plz
[03:23] <tyliu> i downloaded the j2sdk1.42_09.bin from sun.com
[03:23] <jabra> trying to figure out if sd400 from cannon is supported
[03:23] <sn9> specialbuddy: it means you've got garbage in sources.list
[03:23] <ubuntu> :D
[03:24] <defcon8> got my cd's
[03:24] <specialbuddy> what kind of garbage
[03:24] <sn9> tyliu: and you used make-jpkg on it?
[03:24] <defcon8> going to be distributing them to my friends tomorrow
[03:24] <defcon8> is the latest ver hoary hedgehog?
[03:24] <tyliu> sn9: yes
[03:24] <ScatterBrain> Anyone having trouble with IPW2200?
[03:24] <sn9> defcon8: no. that's old
[03:24] <Lord_Maynoth> I thick its acenous ardvark
[03:24] <agabus> is anyone in here atm running ubuntu with wireless?
[03:24] <_sam> Does anyone know where evolution stores your calendars?
[03:24] <defcon8> sn9, yeah it took a long time to get here
[03:25] <onkarshinde> specialbuddy: Can you just look at whatever you pasted? Can't you see http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl thing in your repos? Remove it.
[03:25] <dereks__> is there any documentation on gnome-app-install?
[03:25] <sn9> tyliu: maybe you should do the make-jpkg again under 5.10
[03:25] <specialbuddy> ok
[03:25] <defcon8> so what is the package manager for ubuntu?
[03:26] <morphix> synaptic.
[03:26] <Toma-> defcon8: apt
[03:26] <dazvid> defcon8, apt-get / synaptic
[03:26] <onkarshinde> defcon8: apt-get or Synaptic
[03:26] <sn9> defcon8: dpkg, of course
[03:26] <ScatterBrain> defcon8: Apt or Synaptic
[03:26] <tyliu> ?you mean?
[03:26] <defcon8> ahh same as debian then
[03:26] <defcon8> ok
[03:26] <onkarshinde> sn9: Sorry, you are right.
[03:26] <tyliu> sn9: you mean?
[03:26] <onkarshinde> dpkg is right. same as rpm is for redhat
[03:27] <sn9> tyliu: if you did make-jpkg under 5.04, maybe you need to do it again
[03:27] <specialbuddy> should I upgrade to Breezy?
[03:27] <tyliu> sn9: o,i try
[03:27] <defcon8> is there stuff like sarge and etch on ubuntu or is it all one thing and the latest packages?
[03:28] <qbeek> what is the minimal configuration for an ubuntu install as server?
[03:28] <salutis> when be new ubuntu guide for breezy?
[03:28] <mustard5> defcon8, we have hoary and breezy
[03:28] <dereks__> defcon8: sarge/etch are versions of debian
[03:28] <qbeek> I did not find this on the wiki :(
[03:28] <defcon8> dereks__, i was saying it for means of comparison
[03:28] <defcon8> mustard5, is breezy for latest packages?
[03:28] <Antioch> specialbuddy, heck yea, breezy is, for lack of a better word, so sexy
[03:29] <Antioch> lol
[03:29] <mustard5> defcon8, breezy badger is latest
[03:29] <Antioch> ;)
[03:29] <dazvid> qbeek, You can type "server" at the first prompt of the ubuntu installation
[03:29] <specialbuddy> K
[03:29] <dereks__> defcon8: ubuntu releases are a snapshot of sid
[03:29] <tyliu> sn9: my ADSL auto connection wasn't work,my edited the '/etc/networks/interfaces'  too
[03:29] <dazvid> not 100% what it installs.. but im sure someone here knows
[03:29] <defcon8> dereks__, i dont really know the debian release names so well either, what do you mean?
[03:30] <Jedrick> How to make a shell?
[03:30] <dereks__> defcon8: sid = unstable
[03:30] <GreenFireD> what is the default font name that use terminal?
[03:30] <Dr_Willis> Jedrick,  you mean what icon you clik on to get to the terminal?
[03:30] <salutis> when will be completed new ubuntu guide for breezy version?
[03:30] <defcon8> cool
[03:30] <Jedrick> no
[03:30] <GreenFireD> and where can i find this, witch foulder
[03:31] <DarkSeid> looks like the list of dead USB after Breezy upgrades is growing
[03:31] <Jedrick> it's like i want to be a server of some psybnc and they say i need to have shell
[03:31] <Jedrick> so how to make one?
[03:31] <defcon8> usb ports are breaking>?
[03:31] <defcon8> Jedrick, dont be silly mate
[03:31] <defcon8> if you are willing to keep your computer on all the time you can serve it yourself
[03:31] <DarkSeid> after the upgrade from hoary to breezy
[03:31] <DarkSeid> dead USB
[03:32] <specialbuddy> are there any documents on how to upgrade to breezy?
[03:32] <GreenFireD> what is the name of default font that is useing terminal or in Firefox?
[03:32] <defcon8> or you can pay for someone else to server your psybnc. some shell providers also give you a psybnc account included
[03:32] <sn9> tyliu: BTW, i'm curious: when you entered the chinese characters into xchat, was input method set to "default" or "x input method" ?
[03:32] <mustard5> specialbuddy, yes
[03:32] <mustard5> !tell specialbuddy about breezy
[03:32] <Jedrick> defcon8:  do you know how to make psyBNC?
[03:32] <specialbuddy> where are they?
[03:32] <defcon8> !tell defcon8 about breezy
[03:32] <defcon8> Jedrick, yes and so does google. have a look
[03:32] <mustard5> specialbuddy, look at the message from ubotu
[03:32] <defcon8> tons of tutorials
[03:32] <mustard5> specialbuddy, its in there
[03:32] <specialbuddy> ubotu?
[03:33] <GreenFireD> what is the name of default font that is useing terminal or in Firefox?
[03:33] <defcon8> yeah man
[03:33] <mustard5> can you receive private messages in irc specialbuddy ?
[03:33] <Jedrick> ok so no need to install anything?
[03:33] <defcon8> that terminal font is sexy isnt it
[03:33] <specialbuddy> I think so
[03:33] <mustard5> well ubotu sent you one
[03:33] <mustard5> !breezy
[03:33] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[03:33] <Toma-> they should have packaged ubuntu-ttf with breezy :( it looks awesome at the wm font
[03:36] <_ShoGo_> hi all
[03:36] <mustard5> hi _ShoGo_
[03:36] <_ShoGo_> i have upgraded my kernel but I't doesn't starts. It displays kernel not syncing VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block (0,0)
[03:36] <Boki2k> hi i need some help in console ^^
[03:37] <toran> how do I set my cursor theme in a desktop environment besides KDE (fluxbox)
[03:37] <toran> ?
[03:37] <larsrohdin> Hi! Im currently running a dual boot with win xp. It crashed yesterday(like win. does from time to time) now can I do a repair installation of xp without it overwriting my MBR?
[03:37] <tyliu> sn9: ha,i use x input method
[03:37] <Lord_Maynoth> anyone know how I make my windows paritions stay after I reboot
[03:37] <tyliu>
[03:37] <Lord_Maynoth> I run that autoconfig script
[03:37] <Boki2k> how can I list all files with  with 3 characters (hidden files too)
[03:37] <Lord_Maynoth> but they are gone when I reboot
[03:37] <_ShoGo_> anybody can help me?
[03:38] <toran> Boki2k: ls -la (at terminal)
[03:38] <mustard5> Lord_Maynoth, that should have worked..you may have to edit fstab manually if it didnt
[03:38] <toran> Boki2k: oh, wait
[03:38] <sn9> Boki2k: ls -d ???
[03:38] <Boki2k> ty an with 3 characters with ***?
[03:38] <toran> Boki2k: ls -lad ???
[03:38] <toran> yeah, you have to get those three question marks
[03:38] <toran> that specifies "any character here"
[03:38] <onkarshinde> Lord_Maynoth: I have same problem. Not always. Sometimes. Are you on hoary?
[03:38] <toran> how do I set my cursor theme in a desktop environment besides KDE (fluxbox)
[03:39] <Alex_BO2> HELLO!how can i disable gdm on the breezy?
[03:39] <sn9> _ShoGo_: update-grub
[03:39] <mustard5> _ShoGo_, keep asking every now and again.
[03:39] <onkarshinde> Alex_BO2: Why do you want to disable it?
[03:39] <_ShoGo_> sn9,  ok ok
[03:39] <Alex_BO2> onkarshinde, i love the shell
[03:39] <_ShoGo_> mustard5, I don't understand u
[03:39] <netmonk> I upgraded from hoary to breezy. My question is after the upgrade is over is there a way to install the orignal breezy settings as if it is a new installation and how can i do this?
[03:40] <mustard5> thats ok, you don't need to :)
[03:40] <Boki2k> hmm how can i list now all files with exactly 3 characters (and hidden files too) plz help
[03:40] <onkarshinde> Alex_BO2: If on breezy may be the services configure dialog should help.
[03:40] <sn9> Boki2k: ls -d ???
[03:40] <larsrohdin> can I do a repair installation of xp without it overwriting my MBR and messing up my GRUB?
[03:40] <GreenFireD> people, I installed some packages, and now, the font in Firefox's menu and in Terminal is very small(1pt), what can i do? I can't see nothing with this font
[03:40] <tyliu> sn9: jdbc already not connect mysql-server?
[03:40] <Boki2k> aaah ty :)
[03:40] <onkarshinde> netmonk: No way. You should have done clean install then.
[03:40] <Orunitia> greenfired: System > Preferences > Font
[03:40] <[David] K-64> toran: system->preferences->mouse   cursors tab under gnome in breezy.
[03:40] <sn9> tyliu: i don't know
[03:40] <onkarshinde> larsrohdin: It should work out of box. Not sure though.
[03:41] <tyliu> tyliu: oh,thanks
[03:41] <_ShoGo_> I'm sorry but my english is not so good...
[03:41] <toran> [David] K-64: sorry, I'm on kubuntu, and I don't use gnome, I use fluxbox
[03:41] <Alex_BO2> onkarshinde, where?
[03:41] <onkarshinde> GreenFireD: What packages did you install?
[03:41] <sn9> Alex_BO2: use update-rc.d
[03:41] <mustard5> you may find a ubuntu channel in your language if your lucky
[03:41] <[David] K-64> toran: ah sorry, thought you meant not using KDE with your question
[03:41] <netmonk> onkarshinde, thanks
[03:41] <toran> lol, np :)
[03:41] <GreenFireD> it doesn't help, I changed the terminal's font, and there is now ok, but what about Firefox?
[03:41] <onkarshinde> Alex_BO2: either Apllications->System Tools or System-Administration
[03:41] <GreenFireD> I installed HebUbuntu
[03:41] <mustard5> Firefox has its own font setting in preferences
[03:42] <larsrohdin> onkarshinde, because I need to repair my win, but do you think it writes a new MBR if I do that? And what can I do if it does?
[03:42] <tyliu> why my java application couldn't connect mysql server(4.1)?
[03:42] <_kch_> Is it possible to install ubuntu in an existing and already formated ext3 partition? I have some stuff there and it is not easy to back up them
[03:42] <Lord_Maynoth> I think in 3-5 years Ubuntu will overtake windows if it keeps growing at this rate
[03:42] <GreenFireD> I can't enter to the proferences in Fierfox, because the font is very small, I don't see nothing
[03:42] <quiet> is distrowatch really slow and broken for anyone else?
[03:42] <Alex_BO2> onkarshinde, i remember that i modified one file in the hoary ( a file called default_dekstop_manager or something like)
[03:43] <quiet> all other sites are working fine for me.
[03:43] <mustard5> GreenFireD, hmm thats a problem
[03:43] <sn9> _kch_: not easily
[03:43] <onkarshinde> larsrohdin: Be ready with boot disk for linux.
[03:43] <Orunitia> Lord_Maynoth: If firefox can't even overtake IE, somehow I doubt Ubuntu is gonna overtake windows :P
[03:43] <GreenFireD> mustard5, I know :(
[03:43] <onkarshinde> larsrohdin: and when done with windows, if anything bad happens, reinstall grub by booting in windows.
[03:44] <mustard5> GreenFireD, maybe you could remove Firefox completely and reinstall?
[03:44] <tyliu> hi ,everybody,why my java application couldn't connect to mysql server(4.1)?in shell,use mysql-client is ok
[03:44] <_kch_> sn9, what would be the problems?
[03:44] <mustard5> GreenFireD, you might have to lose your configurations that way though
[03:44] <larsrohdin> onkarshinde, how?
[03:44] <federico_> so now ubuntu shows windows mounted drives in the desktop and in the places menu? can i change this?
[03:44] <onkarshinde> GreenFireD: There is no such package as HebUbuntu. Where did you get it from?
[03:44] <sn9> _kch_: the installer puts stuff all over the place
[03:44] <GreenFireD> mustard5, I think the problem is in the this spesific font, I need to remove/change it
[03:44] <onkarshinde> larsrohdin: mkboot or something. You will need a floppy.
[03:45] <mustard5> GreenFireD, k
[03:45] <GreenFireD> it's from israeli project from http://www.whatsup.org.il
[03:45] <larsrohdin> onkarshinde, ok, i don't have a floppy... but I''ll give it a shot and hope for the best...=)
[03:45] <onkarshinde> GreenFireD: And what is it used for?
[03:45] <Toma-> Can anyone give me some feedback on this error? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3241
[03:45] <Toma-> i also get it for rcconf and bum
[03:45] <Alex_BO> i've a problem during the boot.the system checking stop while trying to connect to the time server to syncronize the time.how can i disable it?
[03:45] <GreenFireD> it is install some programs, encodecs(divx) etc
[03:46] <onkarshinde> larsrohdin: If win erases your MBR then you should be able to boot into rescue mode from installation cd of Ubuntu
[03:46] <_kch_> sn9, I already have breezy installed (upgraded from hoary) but i I can not run X. I want to move /home to /home_old and /root to /root_old and erase all others
[03:47] <onkarshinde> GreenFireD: It is best not to install something from unknown sources. You never know what will break. Use repositories as far as possible.
[03:47] <_kch_> sn9, the paritition will only have two directories with names that will be different to any other ubuntu directory name
[03:47] <sn9> _kch_: just make tarballs of them on another partition or disk
[03:47] <GreenFireD> u can find explain of this in the forum "community chat" in the topic "HebUbuntu"
[03:47] <mustard5> GreenFireD, did it come with uninstall instructions in a README?
[03:47] <Kyynara> any good tutorials on how to build something from source?
[03:47] <_kch_> sn9, the problem is that they are quite big and I do no have available space for making the tarballs (even using another computer)
[03:48] <sn9> _kch_: then you have a problem
[03:48] <onkarshinde> Kyynara: No need of tutorial. Read the INSTALL or README file of the program you want to install from source
[03:48] <Alex_BO> I'VE A problem during the boot.the system checking stop while trying to connect to the time server to syncronize the time.how can i disable it?
[03:48] <Kyynara> onkarshinde: thanks :)
[03:48] <Kyynara> I really should start using my brains before asking here :)
[03:48] <mustard5> Alex_BO, you on Breezy?
[03:48] <sn9> Alex_BO: you can't wait a few extra seconds?
[03:48] <zoe_> help /nick
[03:49] <Alex_BO> mustard5, yes
[03:49] <GreenFireD> no..
[03:49] <Alex_BO> sn9, no way! :-D
[03:49] <mustard5> Alex_BO, the instruction are in your HELP menu
[03:49] <mustard5> System >> Help
[03:49] <Lord_Maynoth> does anyone know what ubuntu chose gnome over kde
[03:49] <mustard5> go to the Guide
[03:49] <GreenFireD> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=380926#post380926
[03:49] <Doktoreas> hi guys
[03:49] <_kch_> sori, ubuntu will always format the target / partition, isn't it sn9 ?
[03:49] <GreenFireD> this is HebUBuntu
[03:49] <Doktoreas> is there a guide to install xfce4 in ubuntu?
[03:50] <Boki2k> how can i list all my commands i entered and reenter the 4th command with his number?
[03:50] <Alex_BO> mustard5, and how can i disable the graphical boot?
[03:50] <sn9> _kch_: i think there is an option not to format in the installer, but i wouldn't trust it
[03:50] <Alex_BO> mustard5, well... i would like to have a simple boot like to hoary
[03:50] <_kch_> ok thanks sn9
[03:50] <sn9> Doktoreas: install the pkg xubuntu-desktop
[03:51] <Doktoreas> sn9 it will do everything?
[03:51] <Boki2k> how can i list all my commands i entered and reenter the 4th command with his number?
[03:51] <sn9> Doktoreas: on breezy, yes
[03:51] <GreenFireD> this is my browser, look at the menus: http://img418.imageshack.us/img418/5746/adas3eu.png
[03:51] <Doktoreas> thx sn9
[03:52] <lass0r> how can i list the last command in the history with a command, its a easy command but i forgotten the command :/ help pls
[03:52] <zoexi> hello, I need to give my main user accound write privilages to a 'fat32' partition that I have mounted.  I have tried using chmod, and I get nowhere.  has anyone here done this before?
[03:52] <mustard5> Alex_BO, I don't know how to change that
[03:52] <Doktoreas> sn9: last question, i f i downlaod the dvd, will i got it? cause i haven't right now an internet access
[03:52] <sn9> Doktoreas: i don't know; i haven't seen the dvd
[03:52] <Boki2k> how can i list all my commands i entered and reenter the 4th command with his number?
[03:52] <mustard5> Alex_BO, the instructions you are after are in the 5.10 starters guide under troubleshooting in your HELP menu
[03:52] <GreenFireD> yooooooooooooo I found it!!
[03:53] <Alex_BO> mustard5, okey.thanks
[03:53] <GreenFireD> damn it. I had font size 0
[03:53] <sn9> zoexi: use mount option uid=1000
[03:53] <reagleBRKLN> in breezy, which package is oooprelink in?
[03:53] <Toma-> Anyone know why id get this error? --- Can't locate sys/ioctl.ph in @INC (did you run h2ph?) (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.7 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.7 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .)
[03:53] <Toma-> sorry for spam/flood
[03:53] <reagleBRKLN> for debian, i can always search here: http://packages.debian.org/
[03:54] <sn9> reagleBRKLN: you can look at packages.ubuntu.com the same way
[03:54] <Boki2k> im a professional gfxer if someone help me with my school work (shell (beginner commands) i will create him a signature, wallpaper or whatever
[03:55] <Boki2k> in qry plz
[03:55] <reagleBRKLN> sn9: thanks, it appears oo2 doesn't have a prelink...?
[03:55] <sn9> Boki2k: "help fc" might help you
[03:55] <Sybil> I have a question about Unbuntu live cd...
[03:55] <Sybil> I have tried it on pent4 and pent2 with no problems
[03:55] <Sybil> but when I try it on pent3 I dont seem to be having access to keyboard nor mouse
[03:56] <sn9> Sybil: probably not just because it's a PIII
[03:56] <agabus> man every time i do a 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper' my laptop completely freezes :( i need help
[03:56] <Sybil> what shoyld I look for? maybe in bios?
[03:56] <sn9> agabus: what card?
[03:57] <agabus> wpc54gs
[03:57] <sn9> agabus: linksys?
[03:57] <agabus> sn9 - yer linksys
[03:57] <jrattner1> where can i get a new firefox icon for gnome
[03:57] <Sybil> it does run win98 without a problem
[03:57] <sn9> agabus: afaik the GS ones do not work with ndiswrapper
[03:58] <zoexi> sn9, hey, should that be in fstab then?
[03:58] <sn9> Sybil: it could be bios. is it a laptop?
[03:58] <agabus> sn9 - so there's no way for me to use wireless with that card on ubuntu :(?
[03:58] <n3t0> some one from brazil here
[03:58] <n3t0> ?
[03:58] <sn9> agabus: you could try driverloader
[03:58] <Boki2k> german ppl here?
[03:58] <zoexi> sn9, because I don't want to run a mount command every time I start up...
[03:58] <aitiba69> hi
[03:58] <sn9> !de
[03:58] <ubotu> Bitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe
[03:59] <agabus> sn9 - whats that?
[03:59] <Sybil> not a laptop. just a reg pc intel cpu and asus motherboard. 256 ram
[03:59] <sn9> zoexi: sure
[03:59] <aitiba69> some has this graphics card "Intel Corporation 82852/855 GM Graphics Device"?
[03:59] <Sybil> I have changed mouse 3 times different ones
[03:59] <rss> Hello, since I have only 64MB RAM, I can't frequently use GNOME... a friend recommended me to try screen, which is installed by default... now the fonts in firefox in screen is smaller than the one in GNOME
[03:59] <aitiba69> someone has this graphics card "Intel Corporation 82852/855 GM Graphics Device"?
[04:00] <ubuntunewbie> hello people
[04:00] <sn9> aitiba69: use i810 driver
[04:00] <rss> How to increase the font size of (gnome) applications in console?
[04:00] <thirso> is there any good download manager?
[04:00] <ubuntunewbie> long live ubuntu
[04:00] <oscarh> after a dist-upgrade from hoary do breezy, it says udev already mounted at /dev
[04:00] <oscarh> seems familiar?
[04:00] <aftertaf> oscarh:  udev is a bit borked, will be repaired in the week.
[04:00] <aftertaf> llegedly ;)
[04:00] <wickedpuppy> thirso, what type of downloader ? http ? ftp ? torrent ?
[04:01] <thirso> wickedpuppy, http/ftp
[04:01] <sn9> Sybil: ps/2 kbd/mouse?
[04:01] <jrattner1> where can i get a new firefox icon for gnome?
[04:01] <wickedpuppy> thirso, i like firefox for http and for ftp ... there are tons of ftp clients :P anyone will do
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> rss,  i think you have managed to confuse everyone.
[04:01] <aitiba69> sn9, i'm trying to configure the 3d aceleration, do you know how I can do that?
[04:02] <oscarh> aftertaf, in a "stable" release?
[04:02] <sn9> aitiba69: are you using the i810 driver?
[04:02] <Sybil> no cuz I use the port cuz ps/2 defected
[04:02] <aftertaf> oscarh:  yup..... :/
[04:02] <rss> Dr_Willis: I am using firefox on screen... the text on menu, below icons is very small
[04:02] <oscarh> aftertaf, so, one should not do a dist-upgrade duning this week?
[04:02] <aitiba69> sn9, yes
[04:02] <rss> Dr_Willis: I want to increase it
[04:02] <sn9> Sybil: usb then?
[04:02] <rss> How?
[04:02] <oscarh> aftertaf, I have not heard of this before, and clean install seems to work well
[04:02] <Sybil> no regugal old fashion mouse
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> rss,  screen is a 'shell/text/console' program - useing 'firefox on screen' makes NO sence to me.
[04:02] <thirso> wickedpuppy, yeah but firefox you cant close it and then restart can you
[04:03] <sn9> aitiba69: what does glxinfo show?
[04:03] <Sybil> regular *
[04:03] <thirso> i mean resume
[04:03] <rss> Dr_Willis: I tried opening firefox in plain xinit with a hope of using the same in screen
[04:03] <rss> Dr_Willis: I tried opening firefox in plain xinit with a hope of using the same in screen
[04:03] <wopr> im trying to configure eggdrop and i get this msg: "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[04:03] <wopr> " ?
[04:03] <rss> sorry for the duplication, which I thought is a window manager
[04:03] <sn9> Sybil: i thought you said the ps/2 mouse port was broken
[04:04] <sn9> Sybil: you mean serial?
[04:04] <rss> so screen can't handle X applications?
[04:04] <ubuntunewbie2> Is there another way of installing application in ubuntu by just clicking on an "setup.exe" file ? kind of like in windows
[04:04] <Sybil> it is
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> rss,    when firefox by itself like that.. the gnome 'perferances' and other settings deamons will proberly not get loaded.. I got no clue about your referance to 'screen' has to do with it.
[04:04] <ubuntunewbie2> where do I download xubuntu ?
[04:05] <sn9> Sybil: you want to configure a serial mouse?
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> rss,  screen is just a fancy terminal program that allows multi-terminal sessions and other features.
[04:05] <Sybil> that is what am using serial sorry did not know what it was called :)
[04:05] <rss> Dr_Willis: fine... I was misled
[04:05] <Sybil> I did attach it but I guess it is not reading it
[04:06] <rss> Dr_Willis: so is the ratpoison gui equivalent of screen?
[04:06] <Sybil> but it is when I use windows 98
[04:06] <sn9> ubuntunewbie2: there is not yet a separate xubuntu
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> screen has Nothing to do with  a 'window manager' like Ratposion, or other similer lite-weight window managers.
[04:06] <ubuntunewbie2> sn9: so what is xubuntu ? somebody told me that it is the "ubuntu"  version for old systems (Pentium 1 to 3)
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> ratposion is just a odd-style window manager :P
[04:07] <aitiba69> sn9, taping 'glxinfo' in a console can I know if I have 3d aceleracion active or no? I make this question because i'm not in the pc with this problem
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> ubuntunewbie,  ive installed thenormal ubuntu on a Pent100 system befor. How old/slow are you talking about?
[04:07] <sn9> Sybil: a serial mouse is only automatically detected on computers that don't even have a ps/2 connector
[04:07] <patapouf> re
[04:07] <patapouf> yq qqun ?
[04:07] <sn9> aitiba69: yes
[04:08] <patapouf> bonjour :)
[04:08] <patapouf> j'ai une question de dbutant !
[04:08] <patapouf> je peux ?
[04:08] <sn9> ubuntunewbie2: you can install the xubuntu-desktop pkg
[04:08] <ompaul> !tell patapouf, about fr
[04:08] <aitiba69> sn9, how I can prove if the 3d aceleracion is running weel?
[04:08] <ubuntunewbie2> oh ok let me check that
[04:08] <patapouf> oups
[04:08] <patapouf> ithought i was on the fr chan :s
[04:09] <ompaul> #ubuntu-fr :)
[04:09] <patapouf> sorry
[04:09] <ds[de] > pas d'problme
[04:09] <patapouf> ;)
[04:09] <ubuntunewbie2> so how do you install stuff in unbuntu ? do you click on a "setup.exe" file like in windows or something similair or you just install the packages ?
[04:09] <Sybil> sn9.. so what i got to do is what to make it auto conecting to serial mouse?
[04:09] <ompaul> oui
[04:09] <sn9> Sybil: there is a way to configure a serial mouse in your case, but i haven't done it myself
[04:09] <patapouf> byyyeee
[04:09] <ubuntunewbie2> I mean is there any other way aside from typing commands ?
[04:09] <ompaul> stay
[04:09] <ds[de] > au revoir patapouf
[04:09] <patapouf> really ?
[04:09] <sn9> aitiba69: glxinfo will tell you
[04:09] <ompaul> yeah, but read this dull language
[04:09] <Sybil> n9s ok. no problem. I will use another puter then
[04:09] <Sybil> thanks
[04:10] <ompaul> patapouf, after all you can be in more than one channel at a time
[04:10] <patapouf>  /join #ubuntu-fr
[04:10] <patapouf> erf
[04:10] <ompaul> :)
[04:10] <aitiba69> sn9, thanks
[04:10] <aitiba69> ;)
[04:10] <patapouf> don't laugh at me :D
[04:10] <ompaul> patapouf, that would be against the code
[04:10] <sn9> Sybil: you can try reconfiguring X to use the serial port, but no guarantees
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> patapouf,  theres a bunch of forginers there! :P
[04:11] <rss> ubuntunewbie2: In the panel, select System ->Administration->Synaptic
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> typing commands impresses the chicks more.
[04:11] <rss> ubuntunewbie2: Top left corner
[04:11] <ndazza> Dr_Willis: what kind of chicks do u hang out with?!
[04:11] <ndazza> :p
[04:11] <wopr> ubuntunewbie, or apt-get install "package"
[04:12] <Sybil>  sn9  oppss I guess I dont know about ou can try reconfiguring X :)
[04:12] <Sybil> am using live cd
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> :) Linux-chix!
[04:12] <patapouf> byebye
[04:12] <ndazza> niice
[04:12] <sn9> Sybil: oh. i don't know whether it can be done with the live version
[04:12] <rss> ubuntunewbie2: got it?
[04:13] <ubuntunewbie2> ok let me try that thanks
[04:13] <Sybil> but would not mind installing ubuntu instead of live cd though
[04:13] <sn9> Sybil: but if you install, you can make it work
[04:13] <wopr> how do i enable 3d acceleration?
[04:13] <sn9> wopr: which video card?
[04:13] <rss> wopr: do have a graphic card that supports that?
[04:14] <Sybil> I guess I dont know how to install the cd. do I have to d/l a ver which is not live cd?
[04:14] <sn9> Sybil: yes, or netinstall
[04:14] <wopr> an old ati "3d rage lt pro"
[04:15] <sn9> wopr: should be enabled by default in that case
[04:15] <wopr> name of display: :0.0
[04:15] <wopr> Illegal instruction
[04:15] <Sybil> ok will go look on their website for an install insread of a live cd thanks
[04:15] <wopr> sn9, get that message when i type  glxinfo
[04:16] <sn9> wopr: that's bizarre
[04:16] <sn9> wopr: what cpu?
[04:17] <radiokills> hello
[04:17] <sn9> hi
[04:17] <enyc> 0000
[04:17] <wopr> sn9, verry old one.. amd 400mhz =) not mine
[04:17] <defcon8> how many packages does ubuntu have?
[04:17] <sn9> wopr: 386? 486? p1? p2? p3? amd?
[04:18] <wopr> sn9, amd k6 2
[04:18] <flask-> hi I was running a dist-upgrade to get from Hoary to Breezy and I got this output: http://pastebin.ca/25742  any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
[04:18] <sn9> wopr: oh sorry didn't see that
[04:18] <wopr> :)
[04:18] <puff> Morning.
[04:18] <defcon8> anyone?
[04:18] <flask-> defcon8: a lot. :)
[04:18] <defcon8> and does it have non-free packages in it?
[04:18] <ompaul> defcon8, depends on how you look it
[04:18] <defcon8> as much as debian?
[04:19] <ompaul> defcon8, it has about 20k
[04:19] <sn9> wopr: is your kernel 386 or 686?
[04:19] <defcon8> well is it as anal about non-free stuff as debian?
[04:19] <defcon8> ahh cool then
[04:19] <FliesLikeABrick> what was defcon8's question?
[04:19] <FliesLikeABrick> ah nvm
[04:19] <FliesLikeABrick> i know
[04:19] <wopr> sn9, 386
[04:19] <FliesLikeABrick> "how many packages are available in apt?"
[04:19] <ompaul> defcon8, it allows you to install nonfree if you include the repos
[04:19] <defcon8> yeah
[04:19] <FliesLikeABrick> heh
[04:20] <defcon8> hmm i have the hoary hedgehog cd's on me. will i be able to upgrade to breezy after i install?
[04:20] <FliesLikeABrick> yes defcon8
[04:20] <FliesLikeABrick> see the topic
[04:20] <flask-> anyone?
[04:20] <ompaul> defcon8, the second you have an internet connection yeap
[04:20] <FliesLikeABrick> you can upgrade through apt
[04:20] <sn9> wopr: are you using the driver "ati" ?
[04:20] <defcon8> right
[04:20] <defcon8> oh yeah i heard usb dies
[04:20] <defcon8> what is with that?
[04:21] <flask-> aaaaaaack this failed dist-upgrade has HOSED my system !!
[04:21] <FliesLikeABrick> has anyone been able to use the fglx drivers for ati and been able to suspend/resume without the computer freezing on resume?
[04:21] <wopr> sn9, how do i check if it does?
[04:21] <geoko> when i load the dvb modul (skystar2) does it create the devices automatically?
[04:21] <sn9> wopr: grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:22] <anindya> I am experiencing one problem,whenever I am rebooting my ubuntu i have to enter the dns thru system>network settings
[04:22] <anindya> every time..
[04:22] <anindya> any pointers??
[04:22] <FliesLikeABrick> anindya do you use dhcp or static IP?
[04:22] <FliesLikeABrick> on your LAN
[04:22] <anindya> dhcp
[04:22] <wopr> sn9, yes it use ati driver
[04:23] <sn9> anindya: i have the same problem. very annoying
[04:23] <anindya> but suse seems to work with the same setup
[04:23] <FliesLikeABrick> anindya can you pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces ?
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> anindya,  i hjad a similer issie when tryign to set up my network card.. and wirless both.
[04:23] <defcon8> i am one for configging myself but deos ubuntu have something like yasy on SuSE?
[04:23] <wopr> sn9, and kbd. donnu what that is
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> defcon8,  you mean 'yast' ?
[04:24] <defcon8> yes Dr_Fate
[04:24] <defcon8> Dr_Willis,
[04:24] <sn9> wopr: it should be enabled then, but i don't know what to do about the glxinfo failure
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> defcon8,  ubuntu has a decent selection of config tools and utilities. Most are the gnome-standard ones I think
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> i had very little i needed to configure really.
[04:24] <defcon8> ok
[04:24] <Jemt> Yeah, Ubuntu runs 'out of the box'
[04:24] <defcon8> naah im on freebsd atm
[04:24] <defcon8> thinking of trying out ubuntu
[04:25] <anindya> FliesLikeABrick : I didnt get about pastebin
[04:25] <Jemt> .. more or less :)
[04:25] <Jemt> Just wish that Backports would be online soon
[04:25] <Jemt> Miss 'em
[04:25] <Jemt> defcon8: Good idea
[04:25] <Ng> argh
[04:25] <Ng> how can you miss backports?!
[04:25] <wopr> sn9, i tried the game planetpenguin-racer and it lags alot.
[04:25] <Ng> there's nothing to port yet!
[04:26] <defcon8> i just dont want stuff to be hosed when i upgrade
[04:26] <sn9> wopr: try a lower resolution
[04:26] <wopr> sn9, k
[04:27] <radiokills> aninyda -> more /etc/network/interfaces
[04:27] <radiokills> and copy/paste output
[04:27] <damian1> hallo miteinander
[04:27] <anindya> okk here it is sorry for pasting here
[04:27] <damian1> hab mir gerade ubuntu installiert, und bin begeistert
[04:28] <anindya> # The loopback network interface
[04:28] <anindya> auto lo
[04:28] <anindya> iface lo inet loopback
[04:28] <anindya> # This is a list of hotpluggable network interfaces.
[04:28] <anindya> # They will be activated automatically by the hotplug subsystem.
[04:28] <anindya> mapping hotplug
[04:28] <anindya>         script grep
[04:28] <anindya>         map eth0
[04:28] <anindya> # The primary network interface
[04:28] <anindya> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[04:28] <FliesLikeABrick> anindya don't paste here
[04:28] <anindya> auto eth0
[04:28] <anindya> opps i did it already
[04:28] <sn9> !tell damian1 about de
[04:28] <wopr> sn9, hmm i cant start the game at all now
[04:28] <wopr> hmm :)
[04:29] <dao> !tell anindya about paste
[04:29] <federico_> hey, does ubuntu use LVM? i see it starts and stops every time, but aren't the partitions normal ones?
[04:29] <sn9> wopr: i don't know that much about the k6-2
[04:29] <anindya> ok dao,thanks for the info
[04:29] <wopr> sn9, thanks for help anyway
[04:30] <anindya> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3242
[04:31] <anindya> contains the text Flies
[04:31] <anindya> can you pls have a look
[04:31] <Dunston> Aint proftpd not in breezy more?
[04:31] <Ng> federico_: it can use LVM, that's what the start/stop script is doing, looking for any LVM partitions so it can activate them. By default there are no LVM partitions though, it's only for if you've made them manually
[04:32] <federico_> can I remove lvm support safely?
[04:32] <sn9> Dunston: there's vsftpd
[04:33] <Dunston> sn9: okay.. i try that
[04:33] <Ng> federico_: if you want to remove the /etc/rcS.d/S26lvm symlink, sure. I'm not sure you'll really gain anything by doing that though
[04:33] <Sybil> sn9.. me again. is this the file I have to d/l to install ubuntu?-->ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso
[04:33] <radiokills> anindya try to put "auto eth0" before "iface eth0 inet dhcp"
[04:33] <federico_> well, it will boot and shutdown faster....
[04:34] <anindya> okk radiokills
[04:34] <sn9> Sybil: on intel? yes
[04:34] <Sybil> thanks
[04:34] <Ng> federico_: a tiny tiny amount, that script only takes 0.2 seconds to run on my PC
[04:34] <zooko> Greetings, people of #Ubuntu!
[04:34] <levander> Anybody doing much rails development on ubuntu?
[04:34] <Ng> federico_: there are things that take way more time than that on bootup ;)
[04:35] <sn9> zooko: are you the bearer of good news?
[04:35] <federico_> speeding up boot time, it tried to sync time with an ntp server, but i dont enable internet access on boot.
[04:35] <zooko> sn9: I'm afraid not.  My news is that upgrading to Breezy has made by system unbootable and I'm trying to fix it.
[04:36] <Habbie> hello; what 2.6 kernel-image should I use (in ubuntu 5.10) on dual xeon 64bits? it's amd64, not x86_64; I'm pondering em64t-p4-smp
[04:36] <devchris> yo sup everybody
[04:36] <danl_B> neone else had a problem with connecting to a wireless network with breezy? It was odd, i couldn't get an ip, ended session to login as root, says my root password is wrong, but when i logged back in as user, i was instantly connected... my root password works from console...
[04:36] <devchris> what??
[04:36] <devchris> im with daved
[04:36] <sn9> Habbie: x86_64 means AMD
[04:37] <zepeuga> after ive installed ubuntu, when booting it gave me an error 17 on grub. how can i resolve this
[04:37] <devchris> sori was a bitch anyway
[04:37] <Habbie> sn9: I just found out I was misreading stuff indeed ;)
[04:37] <devchris> ya me 2
[04:37] <Habbie> sn9: so, would you recommend em64t-p4-smp in my case?
[04:37] <devchris> so was i\
[04:37] <devchris> I WOULD
[04:37] <devchris> i agree
[04:37] <devchris> yu guys all suck at ubuntuin it up
[04:38] <devchris> common boot me bitches
[04:38] <TPC> I ordered a few ubuntu cds trought shipit last winter, and now I want to update some details, but for some reason I couldn't log in, so I thought that maybe I had forgotten my password. I pressed the 'forgotten your password' link and entered my email, but it couldn't find the account. I tried with two other emails that I also use, just in case, but those didn't have any accounts associated with them either. what should I do?
[04:38] <radiokills> anindya_>http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3244
[04:38] <da_bon_bon> hi all
[04:39] <zepeuga> after ive installed ubuntu, when booting it gave me an error 17 on grub. how can i resolve this ?
[04:39] <da_bon_bon> i installed kde -- but i didnt like it, so removed it with apt-get remove kde* arts
[04:39] <da_bon_bon> that worked
[04:39] <cheemp> tpc: make a new account
[04:39] <da_bon_bon> but problem is, i get kubuntu usplash
[04:39] <da_bon_bon> how do i get the original usplash back ?
[04:39] <sn9> Habbie: linux-image-amd64-xeon
[04:40] <da_bon_bon> also
[04:40] <da_bon_bon> all my menu fonts appear TO BIG
[04:40] <anindya> yeah radiokills I have seen it and made changes...I will just reboot to see, thanks
[04:40] <da_bon_bon> and reducing font size doesnt help
[04:40] <L2-CaStLe> Does anyone else experience that the system freezes or hangs? Could this be connected to the xorg-driver-fglrx for ATI?
[04:40] <Habbie> sn9: will that do SMP?
[04:40] <lon3tree> anyone notice that alien is not available in 5.10?
[04:40] <lon3tree> unless you install it
[04:41] <sn9> Habbie: i don't know. try it
[04:41] <zooko> L@-Castle: I have that experience.
[04:41] <Habbie> sn9: heh
[04:41] <da_bon_bon> summary -- (!) i want original usplash back (2) my menu fonts are too big, reducing font size doesnt help
[04:41] <da_bon_bon> any ideas ?
[04:41] <Ng> lon3tree: it's probably good that it's not in the default install
[04:41] <TPC> cheemp, make a new account? won't I get the cd:s twice if I do that?
[04:41] <lon3tree> why? Ng
[04:41] <zooko> L2-castle i have a system with this video card: 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 SE]  (rev 01) (prog-if 00 [VGA] )
[04:41] <TPC> or are all old accounts deleted or something?
[04:41] <L2-CaStLe> zooko, ok, found any workarounds? (except build a new module from ATI's drivers)
[04:41] <Ng> Habbie: you can boot an SMP kernel on a UP machine, so try the SMP one first
[04:42] <Ng> lon3tree: because alien is a very inelegant solution to a very complex problem
[04:42] <L2-CaStLe> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10]
[04:42] <zooko> I'm using the "radeon" kernel module.
[04:42] <Habbie> Ng: heh; I came here to ask so I wouldn't have to try ;)
[04:42] <lon3tree> a bit disappointed with 5.10
[04:42] <Habbie> but Il'l be trying anyway it seems
[04:42] <L2-CaStLe> zooko, k, I'm using that myself, use "ati" as driver in xorg.conf
[04:42] <zooko> l2: So I think that is a Free Software module from xorg project.
[04:42] <cheemp> lon3tree why so
[04:42] <lon3tree> is it? Ng
[04:42] <Ng> Habbie: I guess nobody has the same hardware - smp k8 systems are still quite rare ;)
[04:42] <Habbie> Ng: hehe
[04:42] <Habbie> Ng: it's not a k8
[04:42] <Ng> lon3tree: it works for very simple things, but can cause an awful lot of problems :/
[04:42] <zooko> L2: yes, my driver in xorg.conf is "ati".
[04:42] <zooko> Maybe I should try changing it to radeon.
[04:42] <L2-CaStLe> Will have to install the drivers from ATI then, crap
[04:43] <nightswim> Habbie: you can look at the config of the kernel before you reboot
[04:43] <Ng> Habbie: sorry, by k8 I just mean amd64/emt64
[04:43] <zooko> Anyway, the lockups are infrequent, and the workaround is "Don't do anything that uses 3D on that machine".
[04:43] <Ng> Habbie: but you're right
[04:43] <lon3tree> cheemp, i find that it is not as good as Hoary
[04:43] <zooko> That includes screen savers.
[04:43] <Habbie> nightswim: hm, true :)
[04:43] <sn9> zepeuga: what did you install onto?
[04:43] <nightswim> /boot/config-fjgldjlgdfgxeon-emt
[04:43] <L2-CaStLe> oh well
[04:43] <cheemp> i'm still running the breey preview .. it's solid
[04:43] <zooko> L2: haven't tried breezy on that system yet.
[04:43] <zepeuga> sn9, mbr
[04:43] <nightswim> and see if it says if smp is compiled in the kernel or as a module :>
[04:43] <zooko> Since breezy on *this* system made it unbootable, and that system is my wife's...
[04:43] <jorgp> lon3tree: why?
[04:43] <lon3tree> anyone also notice that network speed is slow?
[04:43] <sn9> zepeuga: i mean what device?
[04:44] <Habbie> nightswim: as a module, uh-huh :)
[04:44] <nightswim> (:
[04:44] <zooko> L2: You could read some FAQs for better information, but my impression is that Radeon 9200 is about the most recent one that is well-supported by open source drivers.
[04:44] <sn9> zepeuga: ATA, SCSI, SATA, USB?
[04:44] <zepeuga> sn9, ata i think
[04:44] <cheemp> i was cross compiling an arm kernel yesterday using it... running a full on web server... databases... it's not even shaking
[04:44] <zooko> My experience is that the "9200 Pro" or "RV 280" chip is actually *not* that well-supported by open source drivers...
[04:44] <mjr> zooko, you are correct (well, 9250 is supported too)
[04:44] <da_bon_bon> someone had once given me a command to symlink the vera fonts to Xorgs ttf font folder .. what is that, any idea ?
[04:44] <cheemp> i think breezy is a kickass os
[04:44] <L2-CaStLe> zooko, thought so, but I'll just install the drivers directly from ATI when I have the time
[04:45] <zooko> mjr: thanks.
[04:45] <jorgp> can someone help me get my flash drive to work
[04:45] <sn9> L2-CaStLe: do not download from ati
[04:45] <tarvid> any clues on compaq proliant 2500 install?
[04:45] <bur[n] er> grr... why does rb have to come out after breezy... aw well... here's hoping for backports!
[04:45] <lon3tree> how to speed up my network speed?
[04:45] <bur[n] er> jorgp: it should just show up on the desktop
[04:45] <lon3tree> any idea?
[04:45] <zakame> what are the default boot options for breezy?
[04:45] <L2-CaStLe> sn9, why?
[04:45] <da_bon_bon> bur[n] er: whats rb ?
[04:45] <zooko> So I just booted the hoary live CD in order to fix my breezy install, and it's not doing DNS lookups.
[04:45] <mjr> zooko, though watch out for 9250s, they come in two models, 128 or 64 bit data bus. The number does not reflect this.
[04:45] <sn9> L2-CaStLe: incompatible
[04:45] <Ng> zakame: what kind of boot options?
[04:45] <cheemp> daper drake will be a kickass os
[04:45] <bur[n] er> da_bon_bon: rhythmbox
[04:45] <zooko> It has nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf (from dhcp), and I can ping them, but no name resolutions happen.
[04:46] <L2-CaStLe> sn9, hum, ok, what part is incompatible?
[04:46] <da_bon_bon> oh ok..
[04:46] <cheemp> i wish the distro was more dev oriented tho
[04:46] <da_bon_bon> cheemp: like ?
[04:46] <zakame> Ng: particularly those that pertain to bringing up the splash
[04:46] <zooko> I guess I'll just manually put in IP addr's for ubuntu.com...
[04:46] <zakame> Ng: I was upgrading from hoary...
[04:46] <Ng> zakame: ok, well parameters passed to the kernel are done so from /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:46] <da_bon_bon> zooko: why not use public dns servers ?
[04:46] <sn9> L2-CaStLe: if you want ati's drivers, install the linux-restricted-modules for your kernel and xorg-driver-fglrx
[04:46] <zooko> What kernel package should I install to give me the best chance of booting breezy?
[04:46] <zooko> This is an athlon64 system.
[04:46] <tarvid> breezy dies with a Kernel Panic
[04:47] <bur[n] er> zooko: linux-386 :)
[04:47] <zooko> da_bon_bon: I doubt that it is the dns servers at fault...
[04:47] <zepeuga> sn9, so ?
[04:47] <zooko> Since my mac laptop on which I am typing this is using those same servers...
[04:47] <da_bon_bon> ok, zoexii
[04:47] <zooko> burner: thanks.
[04:47] <da_bon_bon> *zooko
[04:47] <Seveas> cheemp, I find Ubuntu ideal for developing :)
[04:47] <specialbuddy> anyone know anything about super karamba
[04:47] <specialbuddy> ?
[04:47] <sn9> zooko: k7
[04:47] <lon3tree> network speed problem
[04:47] <lon3tree> help!
[04:47] <zooko> sn9: thanks.
[04:47] <max_noob> salut
[04:47] <Seveas> specialbuddy, try #kubuntu if no one in here knows
[04:47] <TPC> hm.. the ubuntu torrent is the fastest one ever, I'm getting almost 700kB/s
[04:47] <zooko> I guess I'll enter the ip address for packages.ubuntu.com in order to download the .deb.  :-)
[04:47] <TPC> its slowing down all my other internetting :(
[04:48] <Habbie> /boot/config-2.6.12-9-amd64-xeon:CONFIG_SMP=y
[04:48] <Habbie> hmm :)
[04:48] <cheemp> i'd rather have dupev libs and all the gcc tools and good IDEs, l.a.m.p. up and running, mono.. more important than office.org.. i think office stuff should be separate from os
[04:48] <nightswim> Habbie: o//
[04:48] <sn9> zepeuga: is it device hda?
[04:48] <jacquesmerde> hey kids
[04:48] <zepeuga> sn9, yes
[04:48] <Ng> Habbie: that could well be because HyperThreading is in Xeons and makes it worth enabling SMP
[04:48] <Habbie> Ng: likely, yes
[04:48] <Seveas> cheemp, then install just the base package and all dev tools you want
[04:48] <Seveas> it's easy as pie with apt
[04:48] <zooko> Anyone know which Uninterruptible Power Supply manufacturer is the most supportive of Free Software?
[04:49] <cheemp> seveas: it would be nice to have all that on CD
[04:49] <Hoxzer> how do I unselect things in x-server configure?
[04:49] <sn9> zepeuga: how old is your BIOS?
[04:49] <Seveas> cheemp, impossible to fit it all on one cd..
[04:49] <cheemp> if you remove office stuff :)
[04:49] <Seveas> and *the CD* is desktop oriented
[04:49] <jorgp> zooko: APC is nice
[04:49] <zepeuga> sn9, i dont know, but its a little old
[04:49] <Seveas> the distro not per se
[04:49] <zooko> jorgp: thanks.
[04:49] <cheemp> seveas that's very true
[04:50] <zepeuga> sn9, 5/6/7 years ive bought this computer, with this bios
[04:50] <jacquesmerde> what is the MINIMUM number of packages i need to install to be able to play mp3's? if i have to use "non-free" software, i want to use as little as possible
[04:50] <cheemp> seveas all the dev tools were easily found on the ubuntu apt repo... can't say that about yum on FC4
[04:50] <Seveas> cheemp, yum sucks
[04:50] <Seveas> FC4 sucks harder

[04:51] <cheemp> fc4 has lots of dev packages but not the ones i need
[04:51] <Ng> jacquesmerde: the minimum would be gstreamer0.8-mad
[04:51] <cheemp> my opinion agrees hehe
[04:51] <cheemp> i nuked FC4 in favor of ubuntu
[04:51] <Seveas> jacquesmerde, you need no non-free stuff
[04:51] <Ng> jacquesmerde: with that in place you can play mp3s through anything gstreamer based, e.g. rhythmbox
[04:51] <sn9> zepeuga: zepeuga try booting installer disc with "rescue" and do update-grub
[04:51] <jacquesmerde> gstreamer0.8-mad is in marillat?
[04:51] <Seveas> jacquesmerde, install gstreamer0.8-mad and totem/rhythmbox
[04:51] <Seveas> jacquesmerde, no, Ubuntu
[04:51] <zooko> darn -- it is using virtual hosting so I can't get the packages by typing in the IP addr.
[04:51] <Seveas> !info gstreamer0.8-mad
[04:51] <cheemp> jacquesmerde, your nick means "jack shit" in french :D
[04:51] <ubotu> gstreamer0.8-mad: (MAD MPEG audio decoder plugin for GStreamer), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.8.11-0ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 54 kB, Installed size: 144 kB
[04:51] <zepeuga> sn9, ok. ill try
[04:51] <zooko> Hm.
[04:51] <Ng> jacquesmerde: it's in universe
[04:51] <zepeuga> sn9, and if doesnt work ?
[04:51] <zooko> I'll dl them to my mac and scp them to my linux box.
[04:52] <jacquesmerde> then why isnt it in ubuntu by default?
[04:52] <buzi> hey, for some reason aMule says one of my ports is unreachable
[04:52] <Ng> jacquesmerde: patents :(
[04:52] <cheemp> jack shit, is that how your mommy called you when she saw your pretty face?
[04:52] <Seveas> cheemp, ...
[04:52] <windex> cheemp, bad.
[04:52] <jacquesmerde> Ng, yeah. that's what i meant by ""non-free""
[04:52] <cheemp> XD
[04:53] <sn9> zepeuga: the problem is your grub config. if update-grub doesn't work, you should ask a grub expert, maybe in #grub
[04:53] <B_166-ER-X> why that at the startup of ubuntu (breezy) i dont have the 'nice loading screen' that everyone talks about...but a 20 seconds  black screen instead ??
[04:53] <zepeuga> sn9, ok thx
[04:54] <zooko> So, um, is 2.6.12 the official kernel in breezy?
[04:54] <jorgp> is there a way to get rid of what looks like debug info on bootup?
[04:54] <sn9> zooko: i believe it's actually <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:54] <daleth> 2.6.12-9-386
[04:54] <jorgp> [4295468.559000]  agpgart:
[04:54] <cheemp> how do i see my kernel # ?
[04:54] <daleth> According to my mint breezy system.
[04:54] <daleth> uname -r
[04:55] <mwe> I'm trying to compile a theme for kde, but during configure I get the error "Can't find X includes" I have x-dev and libx11-dev installed. What do I need to get?
[04:55] <cheemp> i'm on 2.6.9 386... would it be a good idea to recompile the kernel?
[04:55] <twibbler> could somebody tell me a complete list of the official repositories for Breezy ?.
[04:55] <zooko> Hm.  The package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-amd64-k8_<IP_ADDRESS>-10_amd64.deb is not on any of the mirrors.
[04:56] <sn9> !tell twibbler about repos
[04:56] <Dunston> how do i set documentroot in apache2? or were....
[04:56] <Bergcube> jorgp~  If it really is debug info you're not supposed to et rid of it, but rea it, understand it and fix the problem.  If you're reffering to the normal status messages they're "hidden behind" the bootup splash screen in 5.10.
[04:56] <sn9> zooko: do you have all repositories enabled?
[04:57] <Seveas> cheemp, recompiling kernels is so '90's
[04:57] <Seveas> cheemp, what kind of cpu do you have?
[04:57] <zooko> sn9: I am not using apt-get, but HTTP.
[04:57] <zooko> Because my Hoary live system isn't doing DNS lookups, so I can't use apt-get.
[04:57] <[David] K-64> Dunston:  /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default
[04:57] <prodigal> hiya ..
[04:57] <cheemp> P4 something
[04:57] <zooko> Well, I guess I could put IP addrs in the sources.list...
[04:57] <Pupeno> Hello.
[04:57] <Seveas> cheemp, install the linux-686 package
[04:58] <Seveas> then you'll always have the most recent Ubuntu kernel
[04:58] <zooko> But can I tell apt-get to install onto a different root?  I'll try that.  Because I don't need to install these packages into my live system of course (which exists only in-memory and on the live CD), but rather on my broken breezy system on this hard disk.
[04:58] <twibbler> sn9: thank you ...
[04:58] <zooko> How should I do this?
[04:58] <Seveas> 2.6.9 i quite old, are you running warty?
[04:58] <Bergcube> zooko~  Or edit your own hosts-file...............
[04:58] <Dunston> [David] k-64: when i write /home/dunston/www it still goes to /var/www...
[04:58] <cheemp> seveas: i want to do kernel development
[04:58] <prodigal> hey Im a real newbie to this whole linux thing .. so please bare with my stupid question ..
[04:58] <[David] K-64> you need to /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[04:58] <prodigal> I get this when I run apt-get update
[04:58] <Seveas> cheemp, even then the Ubuntu kernel framework rocks :)
[04:58] <prodigal> W: GPG error: http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:58] <Dunston> [David] k-64: i have done that
[04:58] <Seveas> prodigal, just wait an hour and retry
[04:59] <sn9> prodigal: known problem.
[04:59] <prodigal> seveas, sn9 .. ok, thank you
[04:59] <prodigal> :)
[04:59] <zaydana> i've installed the ati drivers... but i have no idea what packages i need to do opengl dev
[04:59] <prodigal> got to love Ubuntu though .. ciao :)
[04:59] <zaydana> installing the '-dev' package with the same name as the drivers doesn't put a GL.h anywhere
[05:00] <zaydana> anybody able to tell me what i need?
[05:00] <exosyst> question time guys. I detached a window from an application (Iagno) in gnome, it now won't reconnect to the parent windows and i can't do anything with it. is there a way of fixing it?
[05:00] <jacquesmerde> is anybody else's relationship with ubuntu completely love-hate?
[05:00] <[David] K-64> Dunston: not sure then.  should work
[05:00] <Dunston> [David] k-64: strange
[05:00] <federico_> jacquesmerde: only half of the time ;-)
[05:00] <Pupeno> I am tring to configure my wifi card with "Network settings", it works like a charm without WAP, but when I start to use WAP it is really hard to get it working, what does it support ? 64 bit, 128 bit ? hex, ascii ? what do you recomend ?
[05:00] <zooko> So, is there a recommended method of fixing an unbootable Ubuntu system?
[05:00] <zooko> I have the hoary live cd, and I have a breezy install that stops during bootup.
[05:01] <sn9> zaydana: libgl1-mesa-dev
[05:01] <zooko> And I have network connectivity from the Hoary live system, but no DNS lookups.
[05:01] <federico_> zooko: check the md5
[05:01] <Rytmis_> Anyone else experiencing total lockups (nothing works except the mouse pointer) when using the fglrx driver?
[05:01] <exosyst> i don't wanna repeat it! please help as i like that game. also, is there something i can use to give a graphical interface to 'dpkg -i' for when i download a .deb file. would like te iagno issue fixed as well!
[05:01] <cheemp> seveas: you do kernel dev for ubuntu?
[05:02] <zooko> federico: check the md5 of what?
[05:02] <federico_> the installation CD
[05:02] <zaydana> ah k
[05:02] <[David] K-64> Dunston: I'm assuming 000-default is an existing site, this system is dist-upgraded from breezy so the filename may be different
[05:03] <[David] K-64> to breezy
[05:03] <zooko> federico: check the md5 of my hoary live cd?  I doubt that this has much to do with my problem...
[05:03] <zooko> Rytmis: someone named L2-castle was asking the same question a minute ago.
[05:04] <federico_> zooko: check the breezy install CD. you say it locks on boot.
[05:04] <Dunston> [David] k-64: well, i have just installed breezy, today
[05:04] <Rytmis_> Well, that's a positive then... now to find someone with a solution! :D
[05:04] <exosyst> no ideas guys? how do i reattache the root menu to an application that it came off of?
[05:05] <bur[n] er> zooko: i assume your /etc/resolv.conf looks right?
[05:05] <federico_> zooko: neevrmind, i understand you already installed it, not that the breezy does not boot when installing
[05:05] <[David] K-64> Dunston: did you add a DocumentRoot ? there is an existing one there in the default enabled site which could be overriding if you added the line yourself
[05:06] <martii> re
[05:06] <Dunston> [David] k-64: I did just edit that line, so its should be this DocumentRoot = /home/dunston/www
[05:06] <zooko> federico: yeah, I dist-upgraded from hoary (with lots of breezy packages) to breezy last night.
[05:06] <martii> it looks like 5.10 is not as good as 5.04
[05:07] <zooko> It complains on startup about being unable to get an fd for the console.
[05:07] <levander> martii: why isn't 5.1 as good as 5.04?
[05:07] <[David] K-64> shouldn't be an =
[05:07] <zooko> Maybe I could just tweak some configuration to tell it to intiialize the console the way Hoary used ot do...
[05:07] <exosyst> is there a way graphically install by running a .deb file?? sudo dpkg -i can be a bit of a pain!
[05:07] <martii> levander: for language selector does not work as expected
[05:07] <martii> levander: and dual display setup
[05:07] <martii> levander: my ati card started to freeze my desktop
[05:08] <Dunston> [David] k-64: uh just 2 sek... there wasent a =
[05:08] <levander> martii: what about all those problems people were having with setting up X.org on breezy before it was released? Most of those problems are gone?
[05:08] <sn9> exosyst: graphical can be a bigger pain
[05:08] <johnsie2> any good webservers for/with ubuntu? (with cgi)
[05:08] <Revellion> Apache
[05:08] <Revellion> simply ;)
[05:08] <exosyst> whys that sn9?
[05:08] <johnsie2> is that easy to set up?
[05:08] <bur[n] er> exosyst: gksudo xterm -e dpkg -i blah.deb :)
[05:08] <brammator> martii cool. water-pump system on video? 2-)
[05:08] <|078902> hi lease how do I conect a ubuntu machine to theinternet trough another ubuntu machine which hs two nics cards
[05:08] <Albaraha> how do I enable/disable rc services?
[05:08] <martii> brammator: no problems with 5.04
[05:08] <martii> brammator: I think it's new ati driver problem
[05:09] <|078902> using 5.04 livecd
[05:09] <bur[n] er> |078902: look up ipchains
[05:09] <sn9> |078902: the one with two nics can run firestarter
[05:09] <bur[n] er> or firestarter :)
[05:09] <martii> brammator: it locks computer for good
[05:09] <|078902> bur[n] er, is there a ready script or something?
[05:09] <zooko> The requested URL /pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12/linux-restricted-modules-common_<IP_ADDRESS>-10_all.deb was not found on this server.
[05:09] <thirso> OHHHH GABRIELLE THE SUN IS SHINNING IN YOUR EYESS
[05:09] <zooko> ^-- I get this error or one like it from all mirrors.
[05:09] <bur[n] er> |078902: use firestarter... i'ts a gui ;)
[05:09] <martii> brammator: BTW its radeon 8500
[05:09] <exosyst> bur[n] er that gonna do me any good?
[05:10] <bur[n] er> exosyst: it launches an xterm to do the dpkg, but the prompt for password is a gui via gksudo
[05:10] <|078902> bur[n] er, thansk gonna try it
[05:10] <martii> levander: it looks like I will have to compile my ati driver again
[05:11] <martii> levander: or at least downgrade to one that came with 5.04
[05:11] <exosyst> bur[n] er: yeah didnt work. how can i add it to the add menu as that just fails!
[05:11] <sn9> martii: you can't compile fglrx. no source
[05:11] <martii> sn9: anyway I can use alien + rpm
[05:11] <sn9> martii: never use alien for anything
[05:11] <Dunston> [David] k-64: just fixed it a diffrent way... added a share in samba...
[05:12] <martii> sn9: so what do you recommend ?
[05:12] <martii> sn9: if my X dies after I even try to browse folders in nautilus
[05:12] <martii> sn9: switched from fglrx to ati now
[05:12] <martii> sn9: but have no 3D support
[05:12] <zepeuga> sn9, didnt worked :/
[05:12] <sn9> martii: get the linux-restricted-modules pkg for your kernel and xorg-driver-fglrx pkg
[05:13] <martii> sn9: got them already
[05:13] <sn9> martii: it's either those or the open source driver
[05:14] <bur[n] er> exosyst: gksudo xterm -e dpkg -i /path/to/packagename.deb didn't work?  I find that hard to believe
[05:14] <martii> sn9: the same installation but with radeon 9800 works ok
[05:14] <bur[n] er> exosyst: the truth is, there is no "gui" for it yet
[05:14] <bur[n] er> sounds like something synaptic should be adapted to do though
[05:14] <stricjux> hello ppl :)
[05:15] <sn9> martii: probably a bug in ati's fglrx
[05:15] <johnsie2> in linux do I still have <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[05:15] <exosyst> bur[n] er: yeah it does. i am gonna try with gnome-terminal instead.
[05:15] <martii> sn9: might be
[05:15] <zooko> johnsie2: yes
[05:15] <johnsie2> good
[05:15] <martii> sn9: I'll try to use 8.18 instead of 8.16 provided by ubuntu
[05:15] <martii> sn9: or get back to 8.12 that was provided by 5.04
[05:16] <sn9> martii: wait until 8.18 is in ubuntu
[05:16] <martii> sn9: when ?
[05:16] <Rytmis_> martii: what's your fglrx issue? :)
[05:16] <martii> sn9: could take some time
[05:16] <sn9> martii: should be rather soon
[05:16] <martii> Rytmis_: freezes my computer
[05:16] <martii> Rytmis_: dual display setup
[05:17] <martii> Rytmis_: X start ok
[05:17] <da_bon_bon> how do i make kde/gnome menu entries independant ?
[05:17] <Rytmis_> martii: does it work for you without the dual display? for me it hangs the minute I start up firefox :P
[05:17] <martii> Rytmis_: but after some firefox browsing
[05:17] <martii> Rytmis_: or nautilus
[05:17] <Rytmis_> heh
[05:17] <Rytmis_> I see a pattern formin
[05:17] <martii> Rytmis_: or some more activity
[05:17] <stricjux> i have a question: when I try to do a system shutdown in breezy it hangs on [restarting computer]  line... (the last text that is printed out in the console). I'm using a Dell Optiplex 620, with P4-830, em64t extensions, dualcore. I didnt have the same problem when i was running the amd64-smp kernel, (now i switched back to i686-smp since the 64bit support sucked).. Anyways - anyone knows what to do (sorr y for the long post)
[05:17] <martii> Rytmis_: it locks computer
[05:17] <bur[n] er> da_bon_bon: i think most work is trying to make them go the other way and make one 'base' menu for all WMs
[05:17] <martii> Rytmis_: but i did not check single display
[05:18] <Rytmis_> martii: Yeah, I was just checking whether my problem is the same as yours
[05:18] <johnsie2> anyone know a good pop/smtp server?
[05:18] <da_bon_bon> bur[n] er: err .. but i wnat to make them independant
[05:18] <Rytmis_> martii: does your mouse still work when the computer hangs?
[05:18] <martii> Rytmis_: yep
[05:18] <bur[n] er> da_bon_bon: good luck with that ;)
[05:18] <Rytmis_> martii: Ok, so I'm not the only one :)
[05:18] <martii> Rytmis_: I should try to login via ssh
[05:18] <da_bon_bon> bur[n] er: :P
[05:18] <martii> Rytmis_: and see if killing server would help
[05:19] <martii> Rytmis_: do U use dual view ?
[05:19] <stricjux> ne1?
[05:19] <martii> Rytmis_: my card is radeon 8500
[05:19] <Rytmis_> martii: No, single display
[05:19] <stricjux> :)
[05:19] <ubuntu_> hi room
[05:19] <Rytmis_> martii: same model even
[05:19] <martii> Rytmis_: maybe that's the case
[05:19] <Rytmis_> martii: 8500LE
[05:19] <zooko> Hm.
[05:19] <zooko> Anyone know where I can get the linux-restricted-module .deb's?
[05:19] <murrayc> Is anyone else having problems logging into the wiki?
[05:19] <martii> Rytmis_: anyway hoary worked fine for few months
[05:19] <bur[n] er> !tell zooko about repositories
[05:20] <zooko> Oh I see.
[05:20] <martii> Rytmis_: I don't want to get back to windows ;)
[05:20] <zooko> burner, thanks, but I wasn't clear -- I can't use apt-get right now.
[05:20] <Rytmis_> martii: Heh, well, the free ati driver works for me but performance-wise it's terrible :(
[05:20] <zooko> Anyway, I figured out why they were all 404.
[05:20] <cheemp> i love getting 600kB/s off the ubuntu apt repo
[05:20] <zooko> (vernum bump, mirror skew)
[05:20] <Rytmis_> martii: I'm not going back, I've been in linux-land for over a year now with no withdrawal ;)
[05:20] <axeus> Where are the Gnome application themes located? :S
[05:20] <bur[n] er> axeus: ~/.themes ~/.icons
[05:21] <axeus> Thank you. :)
[05:21] <Juhaz> and /usr/share/themes and icons for system-wide ones
[05:21] <bur[n] er> zooko: packages.ubuntu.com <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:21] <martii> Rytmis_: just kidding :)
[05:21] <martii> Rytmis_: I use linux for 5+ years :)
[05:21] <ubuntunewbie2> I'm running ubuntu on a 300 mhz celeron CPU and it boots up so slowly It's almost 7 minutes now and it still says "Starting hardware abstraction layer" is this normal ? is there anyway to speed up the process ? or is has the computer frooze ?
[05:21] <hendrik> I have some problems with installing 80211g.zip a driver for wireless internet can somebody help me
[05:21] <martii> Rytmis_: but mainly on servers
[05:22] <bur[n] er> ubuntunewbie2: how much RAM do you haev?
[05:22] <sn9> ubuntunewbie2: it froze
[05:22] <martii> Rytmis_: ubuntu is the only distro that survived 3+ months on my both desktop and laptop
[05:22] <bur[n] er> hendrik: what kind of Wifi card?
[05:22] <zooko> burner: thanks, but since it uses virtual hosting I can't access it without DNS working, I think.
[05:22] <zooko> Anyway, I've got a workaround going, so don't worry about.
[05:22] <axeus> Doesn't the 2.6.* kernel require ess2 or something?
[05:22] <martii> Rytmis_: I just expected it to work as 5.04
[05:23] <bur[n] er> zooko: ok... if you need something... holla ;)  otherwise download it to your mac and use SMB ;)
[05:23] <martii> Rytmis_: infact I was amazed 5.04. Very good piece of work
[05:23] <goh> ubuntunewbie2: Have u tried lighter distros?
[05:23] <ian> hi
[05:23] <ubuntunewbie2> ram maybe about 64 mb
[05:23] <exosyst> anyone know how to reset window settings for an app? a menu 'for ianogo' has come off and won't reattach
[05:23] <ubuntunewbie2> Well not yet, this is my first time trying to work with LINUX stuff
[05:23] <zooko> burner: i'm dl'ing to my mac and using scp.  :-)
[05:23] <hendrik> i hve a acer aspire 1500 and 80211.zip is the networkdriver for this acer aspire driver
[05:23] <ian> Hi guys
[05:23] <ubuntunewbie2> does ubuntu have anything that is light good for old computers ?
[05:23] <axeus> ubuntunewbie2: A little off topic: Slack.. *cough*... :S ware might be a little more suited for that application.
[05:23] <ian> im using vmware
[05:23] <supadog> how much swap space should i allocate for linux with 512mb ram?
[05:24] <Paradoxx> any1 kno where i can find the torrent for breezy?
[05:24] <Rytmis_> martii: I'm liking Breezy a lot. This ati issue just bugs me :(
[05:24] <axeus> Oh ubuntunewbie: If you're a newbie: however... slackware might not be a good route.
[05:24] <axeus> supadog: 1 gig
[05:24] <reagleBRKLN> i just updated to breezy, and can't restore my samba stuff... ug any pointers to getting this stuff to work?
[05:24] <exosyst> anyone know how to reset window settings for an app? a menu 'for ianogo' has come off and won't reattach
[05:24] <ubuntunewbie2> you know something like BeatrIX Linux 2005.1. I'd like something from ubunt, cause of the good support and community
[05:24] <goh> ubuntunewbie: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24890
[05:24] <axeus> supadog: I think it's a good practice to take your ram, and multiply it by two for swap.
[05:24] <supadog> axeus: 1gig! that's heaps...
[05:24] <martii> Rytmis_: me as well
[05:24] <brokensystems> axeus, really? I have 256MB ram and a 500MB swap
[05:24] <reagleBRKLN> [freemind]
[05:24] <reagleBRKLN> path = /home/reagle/freemind
[05:24] <reagleBRKLN> guest ok = yes
[05:24] <martii> Rytmis_: but it makes me unable to work
[05:25] <brammator> Paradoxx http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[05:25] <sn9> hendrik: you need ndiswrapper
[05:25] <axeus> brokensystems: That's almost twice 256.
[05:25] <reagleBRKLN> then on win2k i try to access that share and it won't authenticate me!
[05:25] <hendrik> i have a acer aspire 1500 and 80211.zip is the networkdriver for this acer aspire driver
[05:25] <martii> Rytmis_: now I use ati driver instead of fglrx
[05:25] <martii> Rytmis_: :(
[05:25] <Paradoxx> ty brammator
[05:25] <brokensystems> axeus: lol oops :)
[05:25] <sn9> hendrik: you need ndiswrapper
[05:25] <axeus> brokensystems: :)
[05:25] <Rytmis_> martii: same here. Lucky I got a 21" screen :)
[05:25] <sandollar> hello folks ok i am having problems with my nvidia card running glxgears  it runs, but it runs on my cpu not my nvidia card wondering how i can fix that
[05:25] <ubuntunewbie2> i hope ubuntu comes up with something for old computers like BeatrIX or simply Mepis
[05:25] <goh> ubuntunewbie2: I think more ram may help, though I have no experience. Try to increase to 128mb?
[05:25] <Raskall-mob> I'm in a bit of a dilemma here. I have a server hosting web (apache server) and mail (postfix, amavisd-new, clamav) for 50+ people. should i dist-upgrade or should I just leave the server as is until it "expires"? (it's running hoary)
[05:26] <exosyst> Anyone that wanted to help but didnt actually know, it was simply a case of: rm .gnome2/iagno
[05:26] <exosyst>
[05:26] <ubuntunewbie2> ok let me try that
[05:26] <Renski> Ive had ubuntu LiveCD running on 64MB
[05:26] <Renski> its slow...but it works
[05:26] <Revellion> damn apache logs can be interesting
[05:26] <ian> hi all
[05:26] <Rytmis_> isn't dist-upgrade supposed to be safe?
[05:26] <jbroome> Raskall-mob: yikes
[05:26] <goh> Any1 noes how I can create a partition in ubuntu?
[05:26] <Paradoxx> brammator: lol, i was actually jjust at that site, but i didn't look properly...
[05:26] <ian> i need help with ubuntu
[05:27] <cheemp> i wonder if ubuntu could be fit on a 16 meg embedded chip :)
[05:27] <N6REJ> morning all
[05:27] <Rytmis_> goh: fdisk springs to mind
[05:27] <larsson_> I have a very serius problem with my upgrade to Breezy from hoary. Please read my post http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77774  , if you can help, please PM me.
[05:27] <ian> sum 1 gimme a hand
[05:27] <Rytmis_> goh: assuming you want to create the partition on unpartitioned space. If you're talking about resizing an existing one, then I don't kno.
[05:27] <Raskall-mob> Rytmis_: yes, but I haven't documented all I have done and some things might be compiled by hand or installed from other sources than apt
[05:27] <ubuntunewbie2> yeah something like an "Ubuntulite" or "Uldbuntu" for old computer systems, because I think there are people out there still running old systems especialy in 3rd world countries where a lot of second hand computers from more advanced nations are being passed.
[05:27] <sn9> hendrik: have you installed the ndiswrapper-utils pkg?
[05:28] <Rytmis_> Raskall-mob: phew. May the force be with you!
[05:28] <Hoxzer> does ubuntu has some easy way to install IVTV?
[05:28] <Hoxzer> compile is so hard
[05:28] <martii> sn9: any idea when new ati drivers will come
[05:28] <|078902> sn9, bur[n] er firestarter detects when client pings here (machine w/ firestarter) by showing activity
[05:28] <goh> I need to delete my windows partition and create new ext2 partitions
[05:28] <ian> can i setup an ftp with unbuntu
[05:28] <|078902> but the client pc still has no internet
[05:28] <miksu> hi. could someone please tell me how to create a script which contains just a few commands to run in a direct order?
[05:28] <sn9> martii: nope
[05:28] <zooko> Okay, now I need help.
[05:29] <Raskall-mob> Rytmis_: :) I think I have gotten everything via .debs or via apt, but if I break my mailserver a lot of people will be very unhappy.
[05:29] <Rytmis_> goh: right, fdisk can do that for you
[05:29] <ubuntunewbie2> I even have a pentium I here, 133 mhz running with 64 MB ram with a windows 95 OS. I am planning to have it switched to ubuntu. (If I can make it work)
[05:29] <martii> sn9: ok ill use ati driver so far and then
[05:29] <pingu> Need help: does anyone know what "Starting Enterprise Volume Management System" does?
[05:29] <zooko> I've acquired the .deb's, scp'ed them onto my Hoary-Live system, and now I'm doing dpkg -i --root=/mnt/slash
[05:29] <N6REJ> I need some help again.... I'm getting cron reports from the server, which is good, but there are a couple I don't understand how to fix.... Here is one of them....  NEW: --WARN-- [lin002i]  The process `ntpdate' is listening on socket 32777 (UDP) on every interface   .....   there is no man entry for ntpupdate and no docs in apt-cache.  Can anyone get me pointed in the right direction
[05:29] <nubbe> Easy Ubuntu and Automatix scripts,  Good or bad?
[05:29] <Rytmis_> goh: although if you're not commandline-savvy, it might be a bit tricky.
[05:29] <zooko> unforunately, to install hotplug requires that /etc/modprobe.d/isapnp exists...
[05:29] <martii> sn9: install new drivers if they will come
[05:29] <larsson_> I have a very serius problem with my upgrade to Breezy from hoary. Please read my post http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77774  , if you can help, please PM me.
[05:29] <zepeuga> its possible to install lilo instead of grub ?
[05:29] <cheemp> an embedded kernel compiled for 586 1ghz 128mb machines whith a lean windows manager would run real fast
[05:29] <zooko> Maybe I can, um, force the other debs to ignore the fact that hotplug isn't completely installed.
[05:29] <Habbie> N6REJ: ntpdate is not ntpupdate
[05:29] <N6REJ> ubuntunewbie2: I have an ancient system that is running breezy well
[05:29] <goh> Hmmm, honestly I'm not... juz converted to linux a mth ago =)
[05:30] <apokryphos> larsson_: sounds like you didn't have ubuntu-desktop before you upgraded
[05:30] <N6REJ> Habbie: :( I need to get new glasses
[05:30] <apokryphos> larsson_: any upgrading guide should tell you that
[05:30] <goh> N6REJ: hw ancient?
[05:30] <Raskall-mob> zepeuga: don't se why it shouldn't be possible, but why do you want to do that?
[05:30] <Habbie> N6REJ: just copy/paste ;)
[05:30] <cheemp> a 4 meg linux designed for 100mhz chips running on a full on pc ..
[05:30] <sandollar> hello folks ok i am having problems with my nvidia card running glxgears  it runs, but it runs on my cpu not my nvidia card wondering how i can fix that
[05:30] <zooko> I sure didn't have ubuntu-desktop before I ran apt-get dist-upgraqde.
[05:30] <Rytmis_> Raskall-mob: Yeah, I'm watching until Hula comes out, then I'd need to migrate a similar setup (fifty-ish users) from a qmail-vpopmail-mysql-kablooey to Hula :)
[05:30] <axisys> how do setup a LAN printer? I have HP laserjet 8100 at work
[05:30] <N6REJ> goh: P2-350 on a Asus p3c2000 mb with 384 mb of ram.
[05:30] <zooko> Having used Debian for approximately a decade now, I've gotten use to the idea that I can just run "apt-get dist-upgrade".
[05:30] <zooko> And then manually fix all the breakage.  ;-)
[05:30] <Rytmis_> Raskall-mob: and I'm terrified already :D
[05:30] <miksu> does someone know ho to make a simple script?
[05:30] <brodmann> how do i turn on the dual monitor support?
[05:31] <Rytmis_> miksu: define simple
[05:31] <N6REJ> Goh: a Guilemot video card using nvidia chipset... agp 1x
[05:31] <cheemp> n6rej: how slow is that?
[05:31] <Raskall-mob> Rytmis_: :) Guess I'll wait too.. At least as long as I get security updates.
[05:31] <miksu> rytmis a few ifconfig and brctl statements to run in order top down
[05:31] <zooko> I'm sure I don't need isapnp support, so I'm going to try creating an empty file there to trick the hotplug deb into installing.
[05:31] <N6REJ> cheemp: actually its fast!  go to www.cogyfarm.com
[05:31] <goh> Hmmm... I think the ram matters a lot
[05:31] <zepeuga> Raskall-mob, i like to install it because i have an error 17 with grub and cant resolve it
[05:31] <larsson_> apokrythos: Please send me a PM, need to talk with you.
[05:31] <N6REJ> NOTE< I"m not using it as a desktop, but as a server.
[05:32] <goh> Sheezz
[05:32] <|078902> sn9, are you still there?
[05:32] <Rytmis_> miksu: well unless the script needs to actually contain any logic, I don't see any difficulties.
[05:32] <N6REJ> goh: yes absolutely!!!  unlike windows, Linux will use all the available ram it can.
[05:32] <Raskall-mob> zepeuga: and you are certain that lilo will fix it? I guess a "apt-get install lilo" is sufficent. then edit /etc/lilo.conf according to your setup and run lilo
[05:32] <miksu> rytmis i have made a script.d and it is displayed as type script source code. how to i enable it to be run?
[05:32] <zooko> Oh, isapnp was a dir and rm'ing it allowed hotplug.deb to install.
[05:32] <sn9> |078902: yes
[05:32] <pingu> why does my computer halts when it tries to "Starting Enterprise Volume Management System"?
[05:32] <apokryphos> larsson_: check the upgrading to breezy guide in the /topic
[05:33] <zooko> I have to admit I'm a bit disappointed in ubuntu that this upgrade didn't Just Work.
[05:33] <zooko> I've come to expect Ubuntu to make things Just Work more than Debian did.
[05:33] <verde1> hi
[05:33] <verde1> best backup tool?
[05:33] <Revellion> zooko: it worked fien for me :|
[05:33] <Revellion> *fine
[05:33] <Rytmis_> miksu: well, you'd either run it with a shell interpreter or set the executable flag for it and run it directly
[05:33] <Shin_Gouki> if i HAD to choose between ubuntu & gentoo , why or what are the advantages of ubuntu?
[05:33] <larsson_> apokryphos Ok, will do that.
[05:33] <cheemp> n6rej: you find ubuntu good as a server distro?
[05:33] <goh> NREJ: I was contemplating trying to use ubuntu on a P133 wif 128mb ram.... probly try that during my holz... the trusty workhorse is still as reliable =)
[05:33] <Revellion> Shin_Gouki: avoiding a shitload of compiling :|
[05:33] <axisys> anyone knows how to setup HP laserjet 8100?
[05:33] <|078902> sn9, did u suceed to have one ubuntu pc having internet trough another ubuntu pc?
[05:34] <N6REJ> goh: what usage?
[05:34] <zooko> Revellion: I think it is because I do more, um, "power user" type stuff, and the Ubuntu folks spend more of their time and energy testing the more straightforward usages...
[05:34] <axisys> I looked at wiki .. nothing about 8100
[05:34] <sn9> |078902: haven't tried yet
[05:34] <zooko> Whenever this happens I become afraid that I will have to switch back to Debian just so that I can be in a culture where people expect me to use the cmdline, edit config files, etc.
[05:34] <goh> N6REJ: non server, juz desktop
[05:34] <miksu> rytmis_ i have a script.d and it is displayed as bridge source code but i need to know how to make it an executable script file
[05:34] <|078902> hello folks, I have firestarter running and I have a laptop running ubuntu to conect internet trough here... how do I do
[05:34] <zooko> yay!  installed the kernel from breezy deb!  Now to reboot...
[05:34] <larsson_> apokryphos, what happens now then? it is already too late. What am i suppose to do now?
[05:34] <Rytmis_> miksu: chmod u+x script_filename
[05:34] <Revellion> zooko: still it worked fine except some minor incidents
 , thx!
[05:35] <miksu> rytmis_ thanks!
[05:35] <apokryphos> larsson_: what does sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop give you?
[05:35] <Revellion> zooko: most of which were solved by apt-get -f install :)
[05:35] <Revellion> then continue the dist-upgrade
[05:35] <Rytmis_> miksu: if the script contains the shebang line ("#!/bin/bash" or somesuch), it should work
[05:35] <zooko> :-)
[05:35] <Raskall-mob> hmm... i guess clamav isn't from ubuntu repos
[05:35] <N6REJ> cheemp: yes very.  I wish there was good webmin support for it.  but other then that it works great.  the installs/docs are not designed for a server, so you need to know a bit about what you are trying to accomplish to get it all to "work" together, but tis not a major challenge.  Scale of 1-10 comparing it to mandrake/RH  Its a 9
[05:35] <Raskall-mob> (in my server)
[05:35] <Rytmis_> miksu: just to clarify, what do you mean by "a script.d" ?
[05:36] <larsson_> apokryphos, it depends on some packages that "isnt installable"
[05:36] <N6REJ> goh: it will be slow because of the desktop.  Especially if you want to play games.  If you want it for office work it should be acceptable.
[05:36] <cheemp> N6REJ, and that's running on a 350mhz machine? impressive!
[05:36] <sambagirl>  c  cd
[05:36] <Hoxzer> how can I know my mysql password
[05:36] <N6REJ> cheemp: ty!
[05:36] <Fanskapet> hmm anyone here tried the combined dvd version of breezy?
[05:36] <Fanskapet> i386
[05:36] <feross> is the 64bit ubuntu up to parr with the i386 one?
[05:36] <Rytmis_> Hoxzer: have you set one up yet?
[05:36] <ubuntunewbie2> Yeah my old system runs breezy. But sometimes it hangs when it boots and it's soo slowwwwwwwww. Breezy is good but too heavy for 100 mhz to 350 mhz
[05:36] <apokryphos> larsson_: sudo apt-get -f install  ..gives?
[05:36] <Rytmis_> Hoxzer: if not, mysql should let you log in as root without a password, from localhost only.
[05:37] <N6REJ> cheemp: I've even got alot of security stuff going on, to make sure the server STAYS a server :)
[05:37] <Fanskapet> it just won't install on my fileserver
[05:37] <Hoxzer> Rytmis: where are you from?
[05:37] <Rytmis_> Hoxzer: Finland. How come?
[05:37] <axisys> need help with printing
[05:37] <Hoxzer> because im too
[05:37] <axisys> wiki didnt help
[05:37] <Rytmis_> Ah
[05:37] <cheemp> n6rej: i'm in the process of makig a 400mhz webserver with 64mb ram using an XScale cpu... i already compiled the embedded arm linux kernel and hello world for it
[05:38] <larsson_> apokryphos, "after unpacking 73mb of additional space will be used do you want to continiue"
[05:38] <N6REJ> ubuntunewbie2: again, its all about ram, and video capability.  Tune your distro.  Get rid of what you DON'T need, use a "lite" desktop, etc.
[05:38] <apokryphos> larsson_: yes
[05:38] <Rytmis_> Hoxzer: cool
[05:38] <axisys> hp laserjet 8100
[05:38] <feross> Hey guys, any opinions on - > If the 64bit ubuntu up to parr with the i386 one?
[05:38] <larsson_> apokryphos, ok, it is installing things now
[05:38] <cheemp> n6rej: what kind of security stuff?
[05:38] <zooko> Hooray!  Now I can boot!
[05:38] <N6REJ> cheemp: get more ram!  its not expensive anymore.
[05:38] <Habbie> feross: yes.
[05:38] <apokryphos> feross: runs beautifully
[05:38] <Raskall-mob> ubuntunewbie2: do a server install (minimal install) on slow systems and add the things you need manually. Ubuntu is very like debian and debian is one of the recommended distros for old, slow ystems
[05:38] <Rytmis_> Hmm, off for groceries now.
[05:38] <cheemp> n6rej: it's an embedded system.. 64mb is max
[05:38] <bur[n] er> good work zooko :)
[05:38] <Phini> hi
[05:39] <cheemp> n6rej: the linux install is 2.5 mb
[05:39] <looksaus> a few months ago, I added a gstreamer MIDI bounty to the Ubuntu wiki
[05:39] <N6REJ> cheemp: tripwire, john, etc.  They are in the apt-cache search  Also in the doc's on how to "secure" breezy
[05:39] <larsson_> apokryphos, i really apreciate this. Thank yous sir.
[05:39] <Hoxzer> Rytmis: well mysql password is required in mythtv install so how do I set it up?
[05:39] <looksaus> aigarius, you moved it to launchpad, which is nice
[05:39] <looksaus> but I would like to addd some info to it, and obviously I can't
[05:39] <apokryphos> larsson_: thank me only if it succeeds ;-). If not, we'll try a few other things
[05:39] <ubuntunewbie2> Raskall-mob: But i've got breezy installed already. Do you suggest I reinstall it again ? or do I just remove stuff ?
[05:39] <miksu> Rytmis_ i have changed the extension to .d which i have somewhere heard described as a script file. the properties now show it as script source code file
[05:39] <Phini> who can help with problems here?
[05:39] <bdfg> Hi
[05:39] <feross> Habbie apokryphos ->  ok thanks just wondering. actually I have it on an Asus Turion 64 and runs great but since It's my first ubuntu install maybe I was missing something from the i386 install.. great distro.
[05:40] <bdfg> could anyone help me in a problem with gcc
[05:40] <Rytmis_> miksu: oh. The extension isn't required.
[05:40] <bdfg> i have made apt-get install gcc
[05:40] <N6REJ> cheemp: ok, then its a minimalized kernel.  You should be fine!  just remember to minimize the functions you active.  Put in only what you NEED, not the whole package.
[05:40] <apokryphos> feross: not really; the amd64 support is pretty great
[05:40] <larsson_> apokryphos, alright. :) Well, it is installing and removing things now. I will talk to you when its done.
[05:40] <ompaul> bdfg, sudo apt-get build-essential
[05:40] <looksaus> I wonder where I should ask for permission
[05:40] <larsson_> apokryphos, OK, it is done. What now?
[05:40] <apokryphos> larsson_: no errors?
[05:40] <bdfg> but I think the standard libraries are not being installed, because an error like "error: stdio.h: No such file or directory" appears
[05:40] <miksu> Rytmis_ could you repeat that line, please
[05:40] <axisys> PRINTING IS WORKING
[05:41] <axisys> oops
[05:41] <apokryphos> ompaul: "install" :P
[05:41] <Rytmis_> Must go now, will be back in about 30
[05:41] <Raskall-mob> ubuntunewbie2: look for other desktop systems. look at xfce. lightweight and beautiful desktop
[05:41] <axisys> i can print now into hplj 8100
[05:41] <Raskall-mob> ubuntunewbie2: it should be in synaptic.
[05:42] <ubuntunewbie2> ok
[05:42] <cheemp> n6rej: the flash is 16mb max... applications and database will be loaded on a 1 gig mmc card.. other than that just needs the bluetooth driver
[05:42] <bdfg> ompaul, apt-get build-essential isn't  recognized as a valid command
[05:42] <ompaul> bdfg, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:42] <ubuntunewbie2> ok i'll try your suggestio thanks for the help
[05:42] <N6REJ> well, I'm off to see if I can get ntpdate working properly and finish fixing the cron reports... I'll be AFK
[05:42] <bdfg> oh, thx
[05:42] <Raskall-mob> ubuntunewbie2: gnome and kde will be slow on old computers no matter what distro you use
[05:42] <larsson_> apokryphos, It says: "Errors where encountered while processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libarkrpgc2_0.1.4b-6ubuntu4_i386.deb"
[05:42] <N6REJ> cheemp: sounds sweet!
[05:42] <larsson_> apokryphos, thats the only error it seems.
[05:42] <ompaul> apokryphos, thanks :)
[05:43] <bdfg> ok, that worked... lets see if the problem will be resolved :)
[05:43] <apokryphos> larsson_: you should always mentioned errors :)
[05:43] <N6REJ-AFK> off to OpenSSH terminal client
[05:43] <bdfg> thx a lot
[05:43] <cheemp> n6rej: it'll be more than sweet.... ;)
[05:43] <cheemp> l8r
[05:43] <ompaul> bdfg, sorry connection from brain to hand failed
[05:43] <larsson_> apokryphos, yes, sorry.
[05:43] <Concord_Dawn> can anyone tell me whether or not my session is logged out if I simply quit my VNC client without logging out?
[05:43] <Phini> Please help wih the following problem: I installed ubuntu 5.10 and went out of the room when installation was in progress. when i returned, the computer was off. i started it and ubuntu asked for the login data.
[05:43] <Phini> but i was not asked to enter username or password. ist there any default login data?
[05:43] <ubuntunewbie2> But I really wish ubuntu has something small and lite nothing compares to ubuntu when it comes to technical support and a great community
[05:43] <larsson_> apokryphos, what should i do now?
[05:43] <bdfg> thanks a lot... it worked
[05:44] <ompaul> ubuntunewbie2, why not look at xubuntu
[05:44] <|078902> what could be a good proxie server for ubuntu so i can share my internet connection through there?
[05:44] <looksaus> ping aigarius
[05:44] <apokryphos> larsson_: you're in quite a pickle. dpkg -l|grep ubuntu-des  ..gives?
[05:45] <ompaul> |078902, your nick is hard to type ... you could check out squid
[05:45] <Concord_Dawn> can anyone tell me whether or not my session is logged out if I simply quit my VNC client without logging out?
[05:45] <ompaul> Concord_Dawn, type w on the machine you had logged into
[05:45] <zooko> Thanks to all you #ubuntu folks for your help!  I'm back on track here.
[05:45] <the_hp> i have a problem with my mp3-player, when i copy music to it and disconnect it from the computer, then the music isn't there anymore,even when i connect it to the computer again its not there. would be nice if someone could help me with this!
[05:45] <Concord_Dawn> ompaul, pardon?
[05:46] <sn9> Phini: why not just reinstall?
[05:46] <Concord_Dawn> I'm using VNC to this Ubuntu machine.
[05:46] <ompaul> Concord_Dawn, type >w< or >last< on the machine you are quitting from (login using ssh to do this :))
[05:46] <Phini> sn9: i think i'll do that now... but it is a strange bug
[05:46] <feross> Concord_Dawn: screen usually works better but no VNC will not close your programs so it should stay connected
[05:46] <Albaraha> what app can I use to enable/disable bootup services?
[05:46] <zooko> Whoa.  /dev/null permission denied.
[05:47] <sandollar> hello folks ok i am having problems with my nvidia card running glxgears  it runs, but it runs on my cpu not my nvidia card wondering how i can fix that
[05:47] <zooko> sandollar: a lot of people are reporting the same sorts of problems, both with nvidia and with ati.  I don't know.
[05:47] <Concord_Dawn> hmmm.
[05:47] <Concord_Dawn> I'm going to quit and then reconnect.
[05:47] <zooko> Personally I don't use 3d, so I don't have so many problems...  ;-)
[05:47] <Concord_Dawn> someone tell me if this connection dies.
[05:47] <zooko> Hm.  What package should I reinstall to fix /dev/null perms.  I know!  makedev.
[05:48] <sandollar> zooko: great!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:48] <feross> Concord_Dawn: the connection died .. ohh oops :P
[05:48] <GreenFireD> Hello, I have problems with Azureus, it writes me that everything is ok, but it isn't downloading nothing(any file)
[05:48] <Raskall-mob> agh.. it annoys me that the clam* .debs dont find their way into ubuntu hoary.
[05:48] <sn9> GreenFireD: the circle is green?
[05:48] <the_hp> is there a german ubuntu guide? i'm new to ubuntu and want to earn some knowledge
[05:48] <GreenFireD> red
[05:49] <sn9> GreenFireD: then it's not saying it's ok
[05:49] <zooko> How do I tell apt-get to install a package even if I currnetly have the newest version?
[05:49] <the_hp> how can i install azureus? i instantly get problems with installing java
[05:49] <Alex_BO> HELLO!where can i find a list of extra-repositories?
[05:49] <GreenFireD> I know that there are seeders, but it's writing that seeders is 0
[05:49] <unperson> In my bios, there's an option to enable or disable power management.  If I want the power management features to work in Ubuntu, should this be enabled or not?
[05:49] <GreenFireD> what it is mean?
[05:50] <|078902> ompaul, thanks
[05:50] <StR> hi all!
[05:50] <zooko> unperson I think enabled.
[05:50] <sn9> GreenFireD: nobody is seeding that torrent. try again later
[05:50] <larsson_> apokryphos, i dont think i can PM to you, because im not registred
[05:50] <feross> unperson: probably
[05:50] <Phini> the_hp : http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/
[05:50] <StR> where can I read about having php4 AND php5 together?
[05:50] <apokryphos> larsson_: /msg nickserv register password
[05:50] <|078902> is it possible to have your whole conection use a proxie
[05:50] <zooko> I guess the answer to my question of how to force apt-get to reinstall is to find the .deb in /var/cache/apt and use dpkg on it.
[05:50] <unperson> Of course, I'd THINK so, but I wasn' sure if there might be some issue of that being a windows-only thing and it might actually interfere with Linux power management.
[05:50] <GreenFireD> sn9, do you torrent that certain has seeders/
[05:51] <GreenFireD> sn9, do you torrent that certain has seeders?
[05:51] <zooko> Yep, that fixed the /dev/null perms.
[05:51] <GreenFireD> sn9, do you have torrent that certain has seeders?
[05:51] <sn9> unperson: are you on a laptop?
[05:51] <sn9> GreenFireD: just for testing?
[05:51] <GreenFireD> yes
[05:51] <looksaus> I need extra permissions in Launchpad
[05:51] <the_hp> big thx to phini
[05:51] <zooko> x-terminal-emulator not found.  I know how to make it be a symlink to xterm, but is there a "cleaner" solution in Ubuntu Breezy?
[05:52] <looksaus> for adding info to https://launchpad.net/bounties/gstreamer-midi
[05:52] <GreenFireD> sn9, yes
[05:52] <looksaus> this is a bounty I started a few months ago in the wiki
[05:52] <unperson> Alex_BO:  Did you check out http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories?  It's for 5.4, but I'd assume that'd give the the idea for the 5.10 repositories.
[05:52] <looksaus> but someone moved it to launchpad
[05:52] <Xenguy> I installed xfce4-battery-plugin but I do not see any battery monitor on the panel...
[05:52] <Xenguy> Does anyone know how this utility works/is configured? (No real documentation came with the install, not even a man page)
[05:52] <feross> unperson: if it just says 'Turn on Power Management' I would go ahead and turn it on.  I have a lappy and if I remember correctly it's also turned on. works fine in doze and nix.
[05:52] <sn9> GreenFireD: i'd have to look, but just try various ones
[05:52] <Alex_BO> unperson, yes i'm reading it
[05:53] <zooko> oh, it's because my x-terminal-emulator is symlink to lxterm...
[05:53] <zooko> ... which appears to no longer exist..  Hm.
[05:53] <zooko> Well, I wanted to try rxvt anyway.
[05:53] <unperson> sn9:  Eh, no, not on the machine I'm messing with currently, though I also have a laptop running ubuntu.
[05:53] <feross> unperson: the only thing that I try to stay awy from is setting the sleep hybernation screen off stuff in the bios and do it through the OS that way there isn't two places to check if something isn't working the way you like.
[05:53] <sn9> !tell unperson about ubuntuguide
[05:54] <GreenFireD> sn9, I am trying but every file has the same problem
[05:54] <sn9> unperson: on non-laptops, disable power mgmt in bios
[05:54] <the_hp> can anybody tell me how to install azureus? i tried with apt-get but it didnt worked
[05:54] <zooko> rxvt: can't open pseudo-tty\maborting
[05:54] <zooko> Hm.
[05:54] <GreenFireD> http://www.filerush.com/ this torrents I know that they have seeders
[05:54] <sn9> the_hp: download it from sourceforge
[05:54] <zooko> the_hp: maybe try bittorrent instead
[05:55] <zooko> disclaimer: I have a personal affiliation with bittorrent, so I'm biased.
[05:55] <mustard5> the_hp, have you got hoary-extras enabled?
[05:55] <zooko> But Azureus is in Java and BitTorrent is in Python, so it'll be easier to install BitTorrent on Ubuntu.
[05:55] <unperson> sn9:  Why the difference between laptops and non-laptops?
[05:55] <Ankka> what does a force install really mean and how is it done?
[05:56] <sn9> unperson: laptops have extra stuff in bios
[05:57] <phr0zenkore> hi all
[05:57] <unperson> Does linux ever spin down the HDs when not in use?
[05:57] <mustard5> hey phr0zenkore
[05:57] <phr0zenkore> i'm switching over to ubuntu, gonna take a look at it.
[05:57] <phr0zenkore> so, what's so good about ubuntu?
[05:57] <mustard5> its free
[05:57] <sn9> unperson: it can, but not recommended
[05:57] <mustard5> :)
[05:57] <phr0zenkore> debian is free too :P
[05:57] <zooko> Oh, all of my /dev/pty* also have bad permissions.
[05:58] <mustard5> ah ok....well its debian style distribution so it should be familiar to you
[05:58] <ngmw> notice my ubuntu does spin down the hd
[05:58] <phr0zenkore> ahh..
[05:58] <phr0zenkore> cool ^^
[05:58] <Ankka> what does a force install really mean and how is it done?
[05:58] <miksu> hi Ankka
[05:58] <Revellion> PXE booted GeeXboX \o/
[05:58] <feross> unperson yeah, also there is turnnig on the fan and speed clocking the CPU in case it get's too hot. Usuallly regular towers you don't have to worry about that. Fan's always on.
[05:58] <phr0zenkore> but this uses GUI for configs, while still not bloated and the commandline is still available, not like Fedora or SuSe, am i right? =)
[05:59] <Ankka> hi miksu
[05:59] <miksu> Ankka you are from suomi too?
[05:59] <mustard5> phr0zenkore, its the only distro I have tried
[05:59] <phr0zenkore> well it's downloading rite now.
[05:59] <phr0zenkore> ahh..
[05:59] <phr0zenkore> i've tried many
[05:59] <mustard5> first and last I would think :D
[05:59] <phr0zenkore> Redhat, Fedora, Gentoo, Debian
[05:59] <mustard5> I'm happy
[05:59] <phr0zenkore> and now.. ubuntu :P
[06:00] <phr0zenkore> i'm just curious
[06:00] <phr0zenkore> XD
[06:00] <unperson> Ok, so if I want it to be able to spin down HDs, must I enable power management in the BIOS?
[06:00] <Ankka> miksu, yes indeed
[06:00] <mustard5> I'm browsing, chatting on IRC, IM working, DVD's playing, MP3's playing...don't need much more :D
[06:00] <StR> help with beezy? where can I read about having php4 AND php5 together?
[06:00] <bur[n] er> anyone know of any company that does mailing list hosting?
[06:00] <GreenFireD> I am trying to download 3 files and they all have 0 seeders, how it can be?
[06:00] <sn9> phr0zenkore: MEPIS is another good one
[06:00] <Revellion> StR: why would you need both?
[06:01] <StR> Revellion: because I have a proyect that does not work with php5
[06:01] <sn9> unperson: not necessary
[06:01] <brodmann_> is there any support for setting up dual monitors?
[06:01] <Revellion> StR: then fix the problem?
[06:01] <miksu> Ankka you have been using it a lot?
[06:01] <zooko> hm.    I could just chmod the /dev/ptys, but I'm worried.  Why is this screwed up?
[06:02] <majic_user> Looking for some help with sound on a Gateway 7330 notebook using 5.1
[06:02] <Ankka> miksu: using what? and is there a finnish ubuntu channel?
[06:02] <sn9> !fi
[06:02] <spola> right when i start gnome and plug in my usb stick, it's "auto-mounted" on /media/usbstick (or whatever it is). but since i use breezy i started using xfce (for its l33t middle click window) and my usb stick doesnt automount anymore. whats the (gone
[06:02] <ubotu> [fi]  "Suomalaiset: Suomea puhutaan kanavalla #ubuntu-fi"
[06:03] <spola> g*** CONT: gnome program that mounts these usb sticks?
[06:03] <zooko> Hrm...
[06:03] <Ankka> thanks sn9
[06:03] <miksu> Ankka using ubuntu...well anyway, just doing some chit chat
[06:03] <zooko> Well, I think I'll try compiling my own kernel and rebooting.  :-)  I wanted to do that anyway...
[06:04] <GreenFireD> I am trying to download 3 files through Azureus and they all have 0 seeders, but through Bittorrent I can download them
[06:04] <Ankka> miksu ok
[06:05] <sn9> GreenFireD: i've never had that problem
[06:05] <apokryphos> GreenFireD: run the first-run wizard and verify that the appropriate ports are being forwarded
[06:05] <zooko> Hm..  I'll bet that ubuntu kernel 2.6.12 won't compile properly with gcc 4.0.2.  ...
[06:05] <pepsi> what package do i want if i want to connect to my ubuntu desktop remotely? graphically
[06:06] <Revellion> pepsi: NX if you want a Terminal server like functionality, for connecting to an already running X11 desktop...x11vnc or vinoserver
[06:06] <mustard5> pepsi, ssh
[06:06] <Revellion> vinoserver being available by default in Gnome
[06:06] <Revellion> and also...
[06:06] <Revellion> SSH >>>> *GUI* :)
[06:06] <GreenFireD> maybe I installed Azureus in wrong way
[06:06] <linuxamoeba21> where might one find the source for gnome-panel?
[06:06] <mustard5> pepsi, you want a gui?
[06:07] <sn9> linuxamoeba21: type: apt-get source gnome-panel
[06:07] <pepsi> mustard5, yes
[06:07] <linuxamoeba21> excellent
[06:07] <mustard5> pepsi, ah k soz :)
[06:07] <pepsi> vino is installed, how do i run it?
[06:08] <javanick> how do i install an mp3 codec?
[06:08] <Coz> Hello All
[06:08] <Coz> anyone here know of a good desktop analog clock for ubutnu?
[06:08] <linuxamoeba21> sn9, it's not showing up as installed in synaptic...?
[06:08] <sn9> javanick: the pkg name is gstreamer0.8-mad
[06:09] <javanick> ok... how do i get it? i'm a newbie
[06:09] <mustard5> javanick, xmms will play mp3s
[06:09] <GreenFireD> apokryphos, I did it..
[06:09] <sn9> linuxamoeba21: well, whatever the pkg name is
[06:09] <unu> hello
[06:09] <mustard5> hi unu
[06:09] <sn9> javanick: use synaptic
[06:09] <zooko> Hm...  So shall I try to install the Ubuntu default linux version -- 2.6.12-whatever from the source deb -- with the Ubuntu default gcc version -- 4.0.2-prerelease?
[06:09] <zooko> Probably not.
[06:09] <unu> xdm doesn't start because of xtt, but apt-file doesn't show anything relevant
[06:10] <GreenFireD> apokryphos, How I SHOULD to install Azureus(the ubuntuguide way isn't working)
[06:10] <zooko> Maybe instead I should follow the hint: "Recommends: gcc-3.4".
[06:10] <TMM> hey all!
[06:10] <mustard5> you used synaptic before javanick ?
[06:10] <javanick> no...
[06:10] <apokryphos> GreenFireD: ignore the ubuntuguide; it's a pile of trash :)
[06:10] <unu> i've removed xserver-xorg and x-window-system-ocre metapackages
[06:10] <sn9> GreenFireD: download it from sourceforge
[06:10] <javanick> trying to find it right now...
[06:10] <apokryphos> GreenFireD: grab azureus from their site
[06:10] <secretaria> to
[06:10] <mustard5> Its in your System>>Administration menu
[06:10] <secretaria> hello
[06:10] <mustard5> Synaptic Package Manager
[06:10] <linuxamoeba21> sn9, apt-get *appeared* to work, and that should be the right pkg name... according to launchpad, " This source package is not published in The Breezy Badger Release." could that be the prob?
[06:10] <secretaria> pless
[06:10] <brodmann_> anyone got support on dual monitors?
[06:10] <javanick> thanks...
[06:10] <secretaria> help
[06:10] <sn9> linuxamoeba21: oh
[06:11] <mustard5> !tell javanick about synaptic
[06:11] <GreenFireD> apokryphos, OK i did it, what next?
[06:11] <secretaria> spanhis
[06:11] <mustard5> javanick, look for pm from ubotu
[06:11] <apokryphos> GreenFireD: use it =)
[06:11] <unu> !tell unu about xtt
[06:11] <sn9> !tell secretaria about es
[06:11] <crov> !tell crov about php4
[06:11] <secretaria> alguien espaol
[06:11] <secretaria> help
[06:11] <crov> :(
[06:11] <GreenFireD> just to do ./azureus ?
[06:11] <secretaria> pless
[06:11] <sn9> GreenFireD: yes
[06:11] <apokryphos> GreenFireD: yup
[06:12] <unu> has anyone been having problems with x starting because of xtt?
[06:12] <unu> after an upgrade from hoary
[06:12] <GreenFireD> that is what i did :(((
[06:12] <linuxamoeba21> so no easy ways to get gnome-panel source?
[06:12] <Seveas> linuxamoeba21, apt-get source gnome-panel
[06:12] <secretaria> fegeydushuehai
[06:12] <linuxamoeba21> did that
[06:12] <Seveas> !es
[06:12] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:12] <zooko> GreenFireD, apokryphos: why do you guys prefer Azureus to BitTorrent?
[06:12] <linuxamoeba21> Seveas, i did that and it appeared to work, but didnt show up installed in synaptic. launchpad says, " This source package is not published in The Breezy Badger Release."
[06:12] <apokryphos> zooko: never said I did, though I of course do. More options. Still, azureus isn't my bt client of choice
[06:13] <Seveas> linuxamoeba21, then you need a deb-src list
[06:13] <secretaria> panel why said idid you
[06:13] <GreenFireD> zooko, more options, easyer, more beautiful
[06:13] <Seveas> and apt-get source dows *nothing* with synaptic
[06:13] <unu> i'm trying to find out to which package xtt belongs - apt-file couldn't help me
[06:13] <zooko> apokryphos: what's your favorite BT client?
[06:13] <unu> should i ask in xorg?
[06:13] <Seveas> apt-get source downloads the source to the current folder
[06:13] <javanick> kdemultimediapackage? is that right?
[06:13] <Seveas> you should NOT use sudo when using apt-get source
[06:13] <zooko> GreenFireD: thanks for telling me.  What is your favorite option that BT doesn't have?
[06:13] <apokryphos> zooko: ktorrent; even though it is a little embryonic in some ways still :P
[06:13] <linuxamoeba21> Seveas, i have source and binary repos for breezy
[06:13] <ds[de] > Seveas: why not?
[06:13] <TMM> hey all, it looks like pretty much all the devices on my laptop are attached to IRQ 10... that's not really good I think
[06:13] <Seveas> ds[de] , because it downloads to the current dir :)
[06:14] <TMM> I think it is preventing my irda to work
[06:14] <TMM> anyone got any idea what I can do about it?
[06:14] <crov> Someone installed with apache2 php4 (on brezzy)
[06:14] <Habbie> TMM: irc sharing doesn't break anything.. it just can be bad for performance
[06:14] <Seveas> crov, /me has
[06:14] <chimaera> hi. hidd is not started by default, any ideas why?
[06:14] <sn9> TMM: irda is usually 3 or 4
[06:14] <linuxamoeba21> TMM you should be able to control internal device IRQs with the cmos
[06:14] <Rytmis_> Hoxzer: did you get the mysql password issue settled already?
[06:14] <TMM> I'm getting errors 'too much work for IRQ 10'
[06:14] <ds[de] > Seveas: so does apt-get source work without sudo ?
[06:14] <Seveas> ds[de] , yes
[06:14] <ds[de] > Seveas ah ok tnx
[06:15] <crov> Seveas: do i need to enable backports in source.lst as i cant find php4 package on CLEAN brezzy install
[06:15] <Phr0zenKore> back.
[06:15] <GreenFireD> in Azureus is just more easy to browse. I also used Azureus in XP so I usual
[06:15] <chimaera> apt-get source works as user anyway..
[06:15] <Hoxzer> Rytmis: I dont have disro in my box right now
[06:15] <MrGreen> Are ther problems using ubuntu on amd64?
[06:15] <Seveas> !info libapache2-mod-php4 breezy
[06:15] <apokryphos> MrGreen: nope
[06:15] <ubotu> libapache2-mod-php4: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (apache 2.0 module)), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 4:4.4.0-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 1515 kB, Installed size: 3092 kB
[06:15] <zooko> MrGreen: nope.  :-)
[06:15] <MrGreen> cool
[06:15] <Seveas> crov, it's in universe
[06:15] <LarstiQ> MrGreen: in general, no
[06:15] <Hoxzer> just tried to do it with server install with guide but I failed
[06:15] <mustard5> crov there are no backports for breezy
[06:15] <MrGreen> Do you any issue at all ..?
[06:15] <Seveas> no need for any crap repos
[06:15] <Hoxzer> :D
[06:15] <ds[de] > chimaera but it would still download the source package into the current dir right?
[06:15] <linuxamoeba21> MrGreen, extreme success
[06:15] <zooko> There are problems using proprietary 32-bit software on amd64, but those problems can be solved as easily on Ubuntu-64 as on any alternative.
[06:15] <stjepan> "If anything, Ubuntu's popularity is a net negative for Debian," Murdoch told internetnews.com. "It's diverged so far from Sarge that packages built for Ubuntu often don't work on Sarge. And given the momentum behind Ubuntu, more and more packages are being built like this. The result is a potential compatibility nightmare."
[06:15] <stjepan> from http://www.asiaosc.org/article_306.html   What do you think of that?
[06:15] <Hoxzer> just pasted wrong line and everything was messed up
[06:15] <chimaera> ds[de] : jepp..
[06:15] <mustard5> crov you can use hoary-extras though
[06:15] <GreenFireD> look, every time there are 0 seeders and peers, and for one sec I see 2 peers and they dissapear
[06:16] <Seveas> stjepan, pure bullshit
[06:16] <GreenFireD> look, every time there are 0 seeders and peers, and for one sec I see 2 peers and they dissappear
[06:16] <mustard5> crov you sure you got all sources enabled?
[06:16] <MrGreen> No hwclock or mouse problems?
[06:16] <Habbie> GreenFire: those peers are probably people who have nothing too
[06:16] <Seveas> stjepan, wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth
[06:16] <zooko> I love respectful, cooperative competition among open source projects.
[06:16] <Seveas> read that
[06:16] <stjepan> Seveas: why bullshit?
[06:16] <crov> mustard5,  nop i didnt edit the source.lst (clean install all clean) heh, so to uncomment all source in source.lst_
[06:16] <linuxamoeba21> is there anywhere to get (easily) package source not published in the breezy release
[06:17] <mustard5> crov, fixed now?
[06:17] <zooko> where in the linux source is the "help text" that accompanies the configuration options?
[06:17] <ds[de] > chimaera so what's the difference between typing sudo apt-get source and just apt-get source if it's downloaded in the current dir anyway?
[06:17] <Seveas> stjepan, murdoch is a FUD spreading fool imho - he creates more incompatibility with his DCC core crapola
[06:17] <MrGreen> zooko  hwclock or mouse problems?
[06:17] <GreenFireD> Habbie, but through Bittorrent I downloaded the same files, through Azureus I am seeing 0 seeders
[06:17] <zooko> MrGreen: I've sort of noticed that ubuntu says it can't set my hwclock, but i don't care.
[06:17] <Seveas> note: murdoch isn't a fool, the guy is quite smart - but he has his issues like anyone has
[06:17] <LarstiQ> zooko: oh yes, I almost forgot that
[06:17] <stjepan>  Bug #1 in Ubuntu: "Microsoft has a majority market share"   -   https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1
[06:17] <MrGreen> I have had problems with psmouse
[06:18] <mustard5> crov you can check against a standard breezy sources.list here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325
[06:18] <LarstiQ> stjepan: yes, we've all read the article :)
[06:18] <apokryphos> mind you, that article is 6 months old
[06:18] <zooko> Grumble.  My /dev/ptys are screwed up...
[06:18] <MrGreen> Woah!! its busy here
[06:18] <zooko> I guess I'll just go ahead and chmod them u+rw...
[06:18] <stjepan> LarstiQ: really? :)
[06:18] <apokryphos> MrGreen: you shoulda been here on release day :P
[06:18] <MrGreen> lol
[06:18] <stjepan> are Debian and Ubuntu packages compatible??
[06:18] <linuxamoeba21> that was fun
[06:18] <MrGreen> why what happened?
[06:18] <apokryphos> stjepan: often: no.
[06:19] <zooko> Huh, that didn't fix it.
[06:19] <crov> mustard5,  let me test that.
[06:19] <stjepan> apokryphos: :((( that's very bad. but WHY?
[06:19] <mustard5> crov you can also see all the packages availabe here... http://packages.ubuntu.com
[06:19] <MrGreen> does anyone know if live ubuntu 64 version works?
[06:19] <apokryphos> stjepan: read the wiki page provided above
[06:19] <zooko> oh, yes it did.
[06:19] <zooko> MrGreen: yes, it does.
[06:19] <MrGreen> thanks
[06:19] <MrGreen> ;-)
[06:20] <MrGreen> I'm off I do not like crowds... thanks for your help 8)
[06:20] <linuxamoeba21> is there anywhere to get (easily) package source not published in the breezy release? please?
[06:20] <stjepan> apokryphos: tnx :)
[06:21] <chimaera> ds[de] : there is none.. maybe the permission for the file. it'S like with any command.
[06:21] <zooko> linuxamoeba: what software are you looking for?
[06:21] <ubuntu> walcie sie na ryj zjeby
[06:21] <ds[de] > chimaere, I see, thanks
[06:21] <zooko> You can try a debian package -- despite what folks here just said -- if you are careful not to accidentally install a conflicting library or core package.
[06:21] <linuxamoeba21> zooko, the source package for gnome-panel wasn't published in breezy
[06:21] <ubuntu> ktremu zajeba
[06:22] <zooko> Personally I just compile from source, using the excellent GNU stow tool to keep the resulting packages manageable so that they can be uninstlled, etc.
[06:22] <crov> mustard5,  i have enable universum repository and now i have php4 packages :), but why it isnt safe i mean why it isnt in main repository...
[06:22] <stjepan> hehe gentoo packages are the most compatible :P
[06:22] <mustard5> crov, I have no idea either :)
[06:22] <zooko> I think it is a violation of ubuntu policy if you can't get the src for a .deb...
[06:22] <ubuntu> wypierdalac z tego chata zjeby
[06:22] <linuxamoeba21> according to launchpad, " This source package is not published in The Breezy Badger Release."
[06:22] <frank23> zooko: stow? is it good? I use checkinstall
[06:22] <linuxamoeba21> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/breezy/+sources/gnome-panel/
[06:22] <sn9> linuxamoeba21: i looked and the source is there
[06:22] <ubuntu> co zaden tu kurwa jezyka nie zna
[06:23] <linuxamoeba21> linkage?
[06:23] <zooko> frank23: GNU stow is beautiful, because it follows KEEP IT SIMPLE, STUPID!
[06:23] <sn9> !pl
[06:23] <ubotu> sn9: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[06:23] <ubuntu> kurwa same mloty
[06:23] <stjepan> I have Debian Sarge DVD and Ubuntu Hoary. May I use Debian packages in Ubuntu???
[06:23] <mustard5> linuxamoeba21, check your sources.list
[06:23] <frank23> stjepan: no
[06:23] <N6REJ-AFK> is there anything I need to do once I install ntpdate to get it to only function on one ip?
[06:23] <zooko> Using GNU stow, you can install multiple alternative versions of the same package, remove old packages, upgrade, etc. etc. ,but without using any weird new package format or any weird tool.  Instead, you just use mkdir and ln and rm.  And GNU stow which is a perl script that automates it for you.
[06:24] <mustard5> linukso,  you can check against a standard breezy sources.list here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325
[06:24] <linuxamoeba21> mustard5, i have deb-src repos
[06:24] <zooko> Everyone should use GNU stow for all open source softare that they compile and install locally.
[06:24] <mustard5> linukso, wrong person soz :)
[06:24] <zooko> GNU stow is 100% compatible with deb, apt, rpm, python eggs, autopackage, and any other packaging tools that you can think of.
[06:24] <zooko> This ends today's public service announcement about the beautifulness of GNU stow.
[06:24] <stjepan> frank23: tnx :)
[06:24] <javanick> how do i install a rar filter?
[06:25] <Mario> hello how is the name of the german ubuntu channel??
[06:25] <ogra> Mario, #ubuntu-de
[06:25] <Mario> thanks ogra
[06:25] <sn9> javanick: pkg name: unrar-nonfree
[06:26] <zooko> Hm.  I don't like the font of rxvt.
[06:26] <javanick> ok...
[06:26] <zooko> Maybe I just need to install more/different xfonts packages?
[06:26] <zooko> Font configuration is such a mystery to me...
[06:26] <javanick> sn9: not finding it...
[06:26] <javanick> where to start?
[06:27] <sn9> javanick: have you enabled all repositories?
[06:27] <javanick> ehhh.... what?
[06:27] <mustard5> :)
[06:27] <sn9> !tell javanick about repos
[06:27] <linuxamoeba21> sn9, where did you find the gnome-panel source?
[06:28] <javanick> i've got a swedish ubuntu version...
[06:28] <Supanova> sorry upfront for this basic question: is there a good site/howto to set up apache2/php/mysql on 5.10. I've just moved from SuSE and need to get a server running ASAP.
[06:28] <mustard5> what you trying to install javanick ?
[06:28] <TiMiDo> Supanova; www.apache.org
[06:28] <javanick> a rar filter
[06:28] <ubuntu> czesc zjeby
[06:28] <TiMiDo> ubuntu; english please
[06:28] <addhen> i need help with my evolution
[06:29] <ubuntu> fuck you
[06:29] <TiMiDo> addhen; what's wrong with evolution
[06:29] <TiMiDo> ubuntu; not smart to say that,
[06:29] <TiMiDo> !ops
[06:29] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[06:29] <Supanova> hmmm thanks TiMiDo. but that pretty much is a given.
[06:29] <tony_> hi all!
[06:29] <TiMiDo> hi tony_
[06:29] <addhen> anytime i try to delete my previouse message a line is striked through the subject
[06:29] <TiMiDo> Supanova; that's where you're gonna find the documents for apache2
[06:29] <Supanova> was hoping for a step by step.
[06:29] <ubuntu> polish please
[06:30] <crov> mustard5, huh postfix is always hard to me(and if i disable it something in mysql fail)
[06:30] <addhen> what do i have to do
[06:30] <zooko> Hm.  galeon looks ugly too.
[06:30] <zooko> Okay, here is the part where I install random packages with the string "font" in their name until things look better.  :-)(
[06:30] <ubuntu> chuj wam w dupe nygusy
[06:30] <tony_> anyone tried adobe svg plugin for firefox under breezy? works fine?
[06:30] <Skid> is that a question, or a statement, or both? :P
[06:30] <chaps0063> i was wondering, what file(s) do I need to edit to stop a program from loading with the operating system?
[06:31] <linuxamoeba21> Supanova, not sure about myaql, but apache2 and php worked out of the box when i installed the packages
[06:31] <tony_> Skid:question only
[06:31] <Skid> I've not personally :)
[06:31] <zooko> No, I'll figure out which fonts packages the gnome-desktop or kde-desktop packages depend on, and install those.
[06:31] <addhen> please help me
[06:31] <ChMuRI> kto tu tak przeklina??
[06:31] <Supanova> tx linuxamoeba21. i'm busy doing the install now.
[06:31] <TiMiDo> addhen; ok
[06:32] <linuxamoeba21> addhen, does it look like its supposed to be there, or is it screen artifacts...?
[06:32] <ChMuRI> hello there ubuntu boys and girls
[06:32] <ChMuRI> :)
[06:32] <linuxamoeba21> howdy
[06:32] <zooko> ugh.  I guess I'll install kde, figure out which fonts came with it, then uninstall it except for the fonts packages...
[06:32] <mustard5> Help!
[06:32] <tony_> Skid:Maybe you can tell me what the The assembly was not found in the Global Assembly Cache is? and how a library i installed is not available to a program? well maybe the fist one is easier?
[06:32] <zooko> I hate the situation with Free Software font configuration...
[06:32] <ChMuRI> who is the boss in here??
[06:32] <addhen> no i want to delete my previouse messages
[06:33] <rage> who can sync ipaq with ubuntu ?
[06:33] <linuxamoeba21> addhen whats the prob?
[06:33] <linuxamoeba21> mustard5, what?
[06:33] <mustard5> ubuntu..swearing...in polish I think and english
[06:33] <linuxamoeba21> what a punk
[06:33] <javanick> ok... i've got rar downloaded and installed...
[06:33] <mustard5> :)
[06:34] <mustard5> trying for an op :D
[06:34] <addhen> i said i have a problem with my evolution any time i try to delete my previous messages it does delete but rather strikes a line throught the subject
[06:34] <rage> who can sync ipaq with ubuntu ?
[06:34] <ChMuRI> i want to sooory for polish useres that are not coultural in the ubuntu channel
[06:34] <chaps0063> how do i remove a program from starting up with the system.
[06:34] <Orunitia> Is there a way to disable my laptop touchpad?
[06:34] <cyphase> whn i add a command to /etc/crontab, i don't need to restart cron, right?
[06:34] <TiMiDo> chaps0063; man update-rc.d
[06:34] <Skid> rage: there's some stuff on it on the forums - look for synce
[06:34] <Revellion> cyphase: no need indeed
[06:34] <Skid> works well for me anyway :)
[06:34] <Revellion> also...
[06:34] <chaps0063> TiMiDo, thanks.
[06:34] <rage> Skid, thanks
[06:34] <cyphase> thanx, just making sure
[06:34] <Revellion> crontab -e is the appropriate way to edit it...
[06:34] <javanick> but why do i get the message 'archive type not supported' while opening a rar file?
[06:34] <TiMiDo> np chaps0063
[06:35] <rage> Skid,  :P i cant sync a hp ipaq 1710
[06:35] <thenuke> http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/Ubuntu  X-)
[06:35] <ChMuRI> who is the boss here??
[06:35] <TiMiDo> no one
[06:35] <TiMiDo> why?
[06:35] <Skid> rage: have a look, multisync may work for you - I've got a 4150, and it works great
[06:35] <kingruedi> anyone compiled mplayerplug-in for ubuntu ('breezy badger') with firefox?
[06:35] <mustard5> ChMuRI, they will come eventually
[06:35] <Colloid> anyone here able to get gPHPEdit working - i get: http://www.kupesoft.com/gPHPEdit-BROKEN.png
[06:35] <Skid> anyway, bbs.
[06:35] <medi> how I can get window list applet back?
[06:35] <linuxamoeba21> addhen, you could always back up your stuff and do a complete reinstall
[06:35] <TiMiDo> medi; what do you mean?
[06:35] <ChMuRI> yes i need them now
[06:35] <rage> Skid, i have multisync and raki
[06:35] <sn9> !tell ChMuRI about ops
[06:36] <addhen> yeah i did
[06:36] <addhen> but it still remains
[06:36] <medi> every apss disappear, when I minimize them..
[06:36] <Revellion> Colloid: some broken shit you got there
[06:36] <Revellion> Colloid: tried SciTE ?
[06:36] <TiMiDo> gnome? medi
[06:36] <javanick> sn9: i've downloaded rar support, but the archive is 'not supported'
[06:36] <medi> yea
[06:36] <linuxamoeba21> addhen, do they go away when you restart evo?
[06:37] <sn9> javanick: not supported in what program?
[06:37] <TiMiDo> medi; try pressing alt and tab and see if there there
[06:37] <medi> I just try to customize menus..
[06:37] <javanick> when i double-click a rar file
[06:37] <javanick> archive handler...
[06:37] <zooko> javanick: maybe look into the package unrar-nonfree
[06:37] <addhen> no they didn't
[06:37] <javanick> unrar... aha
[06:37] <sn9> javanick: i don't know -- i always use the command line
[06:38] <addhen> i was working fine when i on hoary but the problem started after upgrading to breezy
[06:38] <javanick> ok... i'll test it
[06:38] <medi> yes I can find them that way, but would like to see all the time
[06:38] <linuxamoeba21> i think theres a new version of evo
[06:38] <trampolando> hello
[06:38] <linuxamoeba21> mine does a strikethrough then it instantly goes away
[06:38] <ChMuRI> i dont seen any ops
[06:38] <addhen> my don't
[06:39] <trampolando> can anybody help me? I have ubuntu breezy, I use eciadsl to connect mt adsl a,d i want that at the startup automatically connects... how can I do this? thank you
[06:39] <mlopes> does anyone know the name of the package that contains the man pages for the Linux API?
[06:39] <medi> normally they are, in top of the desktop, but I removed that panel and try to make new one to down
[06:40] <BesteN> hello i have a little problem whit my computer.. i don't think it can find my networkcard.. when i write "sudo dhclient eth0" i get the message "unknowd hardware device.." what shall i do?
[06:40] <ChMuRI> ifconfig
[06:40] <addhen> is there any dependency i have to install that i haven't
[06:40] <ChMuRI> sudo -s
[06:40] <javanick> sn9: the file is in my 'home' dir, do i run unrar with unrar-free /home/file.rar?
[06:40] <BesteN> ChaKy: oh for my problem?
[06:41] <medi> sois there any way to get Window List applet back?
[06:41] <sn9> javanick: just unrar file.rar
[06:41] <unperson> Is 100 MB a reasonable size for a boot partition?
[06:41] <ChMuRI> !help
[06:41] <unperson> !faq
[06:41] <ubotu> rumour has it, faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/
[06:41] <linuxamoeba21> addhen, not that i know of, it it runs, youre prob good. i'm trying and i can't replicate it... erm... thunderbird's pretty good =D
[06:41] <javanick> sn9: unrar: command not found
[06:41] <Skid> yeah 100 is fine
[06:41] <sn9> javanick: did you install unrar-nonfree?
[06:41] <chaps0063> TiMiDo, I didn't really find anything pertaining to the program that I want to stop.
[06:41] <BesteN> ChMuRI: is that for my problem the ifconfig thing?
[06:42] <Skid> unless you put everthing into your kernel, but tut :)
[06:42] <addhen> yeah that what i have switched to now
[06:42] <ChMuRI> !seen opd