[00:00] <bonhoffer> i just see : NAME | MODIFIED
[00:00] <Jake_> it says can not connect to local host
[00:00] <histo> Jake_: try netstat -ta in a terminal
[00:00] <histo> Jake_: see what port its listening on.
[00:01] <csilk> Jake_, http://www.attackprevention.com/ap/library/nessus.htm
[00:01] <bonhoffer> any way to add SIZE to that list?
[00:01] <csilk> Jake_, that tell's you pretty much everyone you could wish to know when starting out with nessus
[00:01] <dHE> i can connect in my internal server, join in it, but i can't register this channel
[00:01] <Jake_> one sec
[00:01] <pavel-> (i guess i could've pasted the /var/log/Xorg.0.log from the livecd instead of ssh'ing to the machine to get it ... )
[00:01] <Jake_> thnx
[00:01] <csilk> dHE, did you do what i said? see what ouput /cs gives you?
[00:01] <shawn_> ... still in limbo...
[00:01] <TedC> Any chance that 8.10 RC will release today as scheduled?
[00:02] <shawn_> is there a way to get the termanal to open?
[00:02] <csilk> Jake_, http://antionline.com/showthread.php?t=245442   < thats a good one too
[00:02] <sharki> re
[00:02] <zerothis> I'm having trouble installing virtualbox. The build failed for the kernel module. and "No suitable module for running kernel found." The installer suggested I install the sources from my kernel, I literally have everything "2.6.24-21" installed under adept. I guess that doesn't include source? how do install 2.6.24-21 source? vbox-install.log <http://pastebin.com/d698a801b>
[00:02] <csilk> shawn_, Applications>accessories>terminal
[00:02] <xenophan> hello german or english
[00:02] <fatfishy> guess I'll just upgrade in 7 days
[00:02] <Jake_> wat red hat linux
[00:02] <shawn_> i dont have a taskbar or any way to get to the aplacations
[00:02] <dHE> cs :Unknown command
[00:03] <sharki> does anyone know how to remove certain packages dependent on ubuntu-desktop without actually removing ubuntu-desktop?
[00:03] <shawn_> all i have is this stupid irc windo
[00:03] <sharki> namely avahi-daemon and gimp
[00:03] <fatfishy> is there a way to undo the last system update
[00:03] <BobbyFerret> TedC: It is released, follow the beta link on ubuntu.com
[00:03] <xenophan> hi i need help with the command alias
[00:03] <Jake_> i still cant get it anyone can help plz do
[00:03] <compton> I'm using iptables and dnsmasq for internet connection sharing and the TCP checksums are wrong. Is this a problem?
[00:03] <Uplink> how can i create a file?
[00:04] <compton> touch filename
[00:04] <Uplink> ty compton
[00:04] <csilk> Jake_, the tutorial i linked you to tells you everything you need to know
[00:04] <shawn_> is there a hot key to open termanil
[00:04] <Kr0ntab> zerothis: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`(uname -r)`
[00:04] <sharki> xenophan: stop reading David Gemmel, and read 'man alias'
[00:04] <pavel-> BobbyFerret, histo: heres the Xorg.0.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/61749/
[00:04] <Jake_> kk thnx
[00:04] <compton> shawn_: no you can set one from menu
[00:04] <csilk> shawn_, no, I just told you were it is though
[00:04] <TedC> BobbyFerret, does that have the updated kernel with the E1000 fix?
[00:04] <shawn_> i cant get to any thing
[00:04] <shawn_> all my taskbar is invincabul
[00:04] <shawn_> i have irc thats it
[00:04] <csilk> shawn_, how did you do that?
[00:05] <xenophan> where in the .bashrc can i write my alias commands
[00:05] <shawn_> i dont know the system froze and i restarted and bam nothing
[00:05] <zerothis> Kr0ntab: apt says, "linux-headers-2.6.24-21-386 is already the newest version."
[00:05] <TedC> BobbyFerret, never mind, looks like it does.  thanks
[00:05] <compton> shawn_: can you right click the desktop and create a launcher?
[00:05] <shawn_> ya
[00:05] <csilk> xenex, /home/USERNAME
[00:05] <sharki> SO, is there a way to remove avahi-daemon and gimp, without killing ubuntu-desktop as well?
[00:05] <shawn_> but it wont open any thing
[00:05] <writing> How do I make doxygen generate the docs for a project?
[00:05] <csilk> xenophan, /home/username/.bashrc
[00:05] <TedC> and there goes the announcement on -announce.  :)
[00:06] <sharki> xenophan: anywhere
[00:06] <xenophan> no i mean where in the .bashrc file
[00:06] <sharki> xenophan: again, the answer is anywhere
[00:06] <shawn_> right click dosent do or open any thing...
[00:06] <BobbyFerret> pavel-: Hmm, it looks perfectly fine, I am without answers.
[00:06] <xenophan> i tried to write my Alias in the .bashrc but they doesent work
[00:07] <diskin> pavel-, you need to paste  /var/log/gdm/ - latest file
[00:07] <Jake_> still cant connect...
[00:07] <sharki> still no answer to a serious question????
[00:07] <Jake_> any other ways
[00:07] <sharki> removing a package which depends on ubuntu-desktop without killing ubuntu-desktop ???
[00:07] <sharki> anyone???
[00:07] <DCPom> shawn_, alt-ctrl-F1 opens a full screen terminal alt-ctrl-(i think it's F9) returns
[00:08] <Vantrax> how did you install it sharki
[00:08] <Jake_> can anyoen help me with nessus it wont let me connect to the local host
[00:08] <Vantrax> if you did it with apt-get you should just be able to do a remove
[00:08] <sharki> Vantrax: just did a fresh 8.04 install, updated it, and now I want to strip it down to the very basics
[00:08] <Jake_> plz anyone
[00:08] <Kr0ntab> sharki: if you remove a package... and another one depends on that package... both will be removed... period..
[00:08] <DCPom> xenophan, /root/.bashrc
[00:08] <compton> I'm using iptables and dnsmasq for internet connection sharing and the TCP checksums are wrong. Is this a problem?
[00:09] <sharki> Kr0ntab: not true.... I can force removal of a single package without removing any dependencies... man dpkg...
[00:09] <csilk> DCPom, why would he use the .bashrc file in the /root directory?
[00:09] <digitig> Hi. Newish to Linux -- how can I make Ubuntu mount my MS WIndows partitions on startup (or login)?
[00:09] <Vantrax> you want to remove a package that depends on ubuntu-desktop no the other way around right?
[00:09] <Rovin> Still can't get this problem with sound fixed...tried searching the forums too...it works on my partion for Vista..I want sound to come from only headphones/earphones when plugged in.
[00:09] <peleg> Hey. Since I've moved to a new ISP I can't send emails using evolution. I am using an SMTP server which is not related to the ISP (my own shared host). pinging to my mail.domainname.org works. Should I try telnet or something like that?
[00:09] <DCPom> csilk, <xenophan> no i mean where in the .bashrc file <--that's what i saw
[00:09] <kitche> Vantrax: you can remove ubuntu-desktop it does nothing to other packages
[00:09] <shawn_> ok so now i have termanial what can i type in to brink back the taskbars
[00:09] <peleg> I think of blocked ports as a possible cause of the error.
[00:10] <Delicates> Anyone knows how to stop the resolver from querying AAAA records first?
[00:10] <Jake_> can soemoen help me i cant connect to nesuss
[00:10] <Vantrax> digitig they should be mounting already, check in your places list
[00:10] <cs_student> How do I make it so a folder and all it's contents/subfolders have read write access by my (not just root)?
[00:10] <sharki> Vantrax: no, the other way
[00:10] <dulak> peleg: You can telnet smtp.server.here 25 and see if it gives you the smtp header
[00:10] <sharki> apparently ubuntu-desktop depends on tons of things that it doesn't actuallyl depend on
[00:10] <Kr0ntab> sharki: listen... you have it backwards mate... you can remove ubuntu-desktop... because nothing depends on it.  Ubuntu-desktop however depends on other packages.  You remove one of those... then ubuntu-desktop must be removed.
[00:10] <Jake_> can someone help me i cant connect to nesuss
[00:10] <dulak> peleg: if it just hangs or drops immediately it's a blocked port
[00:10] <peleg> dulak: thanks
[00:10] <csilk> DCPom,  yeah, well you missed the previous comments, even so, what you said still doesnt make sense
[00:10] <compton> digitig: Write a script. put it in the /etc/init.d/ directory.
[00:10] <pavel-> diskin: here's /var/log/gdm/:0.log : http://paste.ubuntu.com/61753/
[00:10] <Vantrax> yep sharki, exactly what kr0ntab said
[00:10] <Vantrax> he just types faster:P
[00:10] <xenophan> i wrote my alias in the last line of the .bashrc nothing happend why
[00:11] <sharki> Kr0ntab, Vantrax: wait... I think you guys are right
[00:11] <csilk> Jake_, what ports you tried?
[00:11] <mouseboyx> xenophan, you need to reload bash, or new terminal
[00:11] <sharki> so I can just remove ubuntu-desktop, and it won't actually kill X, right?
[00:11] <peleg> dulak: hangs. blocked port, or problem with the server?
[00:11] <Vantrax> yep
[00:11] <xenophan> thx
[00:11] <r00t_> Hi i have a movie i need to wathc for school but ubuntu wont play it,do i have to uninstall and reinstall windows to play it correctly? these are the file types listed:file:///home/r00t/Poultrygeist.Night of the Chicken Dead 2006 DVDRip (A KRG-KVCD) Mudbrick/Movie.AVI
[00:11] <r00t_> file:///home/r00t/Poultrygeist.Night of the Chicken Dead 2006 DVDRip (A KRG-KVCD) Mudbrick/MudBrick.html
[00:11] <r00t_> file:///home/r00t/Poultrygeist.Night of the Chicken Dead 2006 DVDRip (A KRG-KVCD) Mudbrick/PLEASE READ(Guide And Further Info).rtf
[00:11] <r00t_> file:///home/r00t/Poultrygeist.Night of the Chicken Dead 2006 DVDRip (A KRG-KVCD) Mudbrick/Poultrygeist.Night of the Chicken Dead 2006 DVDRip (A KRG-KVCD) Mudbrick.bin
[00:11] <Vantrax> hence the terminal
[00:11] <r00t_> file:///home/r00t/Poultrygeist.Night of the Chicken Dead 2006 DVDRip (A KRG-KVCD) Mudbrick/Poultrygeist.Night of the Chicken Dead 2006 DVDRip (A KRG-KVCD) Mudbrick.cue
[00:11] <shawn_> ... can i type any thing in termanial o bring back my taskbar?
[00:11] <FloodBot1> r00t_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:11] <r00t_> file:///home/r00t/Poultrygeist.Night of the Chicken Dead 2006 DVDRip (A KRG-KVCD) Mudbrick/tracked_by_h33t_com.txt
[00:11] <sharki> oh wow
[00:11] <csilk> -_-
[00:12] <rogan> jesus
[00:12] <csilk> Jake_, what ports have you tried?
[00:12] <sharki> Vantrax & Kr0ntab: u ze people! thanks!!!
[00:12] <dulak> peleg: it could be either but if ping is ok....
[00:12] <Vantrax> r00t use vlc
[00:12] <digitig> Vantrax: Ok, so maybe mounting isn't the problem. Yes they're in the places list, but Amarok can't see them, and so loses my collection information. If I open them from the places list, they appear as icons on the desktop and Amarok can then see them. So whatever I want to happen is whatever opening them from the desktop does to make them visible to applications!
[00:12] <pavel-> cs_student: chmod -R 766 dirname
[00:12] <r00t_> sorry for the flood
[00:12] <cs_student> pavel-, thanks
[00:12] <Ahmed-Alaa> Hello
[00:12] <ircd> HI how would i zip up my entire /home directory in like a tar or gz whatever?
[00:12] <Doc8404> i havea circle of death problem you see i run sudo apt-get install and get an error that says run sudo apt-get install to fix the error but that command causes it http://pastebin.ca/1235180
[00:12] <shawn_> um  someone want to fix my computer
[00:12] <lucax> where can i get help on gtk2 themes configuration?
[00:12] <peleg> dulak: can you try? telnet mail.freeall.org 25 ... thanks
[00:13] <Vantrax> digitig they will be mounted as a /dev/sda# and can be accessed that way
[00:13] <Rovin> Still can't get this problem with sound fixed...tried searching the forums too...it works on my partion for Vista..I want sound to come from only headphones/earphones when plugged in.
[00:13] <Vantrax> I dont use amarok so i cant really help too much, maybe someone else knows it
[00:13] <dulak> peleg: works for me, your ISP is blocking
[00:13] <csilk> Jake_, what ports have you tried already?  the standard ones are 3001 and 1241
[00:13] <sharki> ircd: (cd /home; tar cvf user.tar user; gzip user.tar)
[00:13] <Ahmed-Alaa> i need to connect to the internet by pppoe via wireless i cant find my wifi card in the pppoe list :'(??
[00:13] <Jake_> one sec
[00:14] <Jake_> csilk hwo do u pm me directly
[00:14] <peleg> dulak: weird! should I contact my ISP? why would they do that? or, can it be my ubuntu which is blocking?
[00:14] <csilk> Jake_,  I'm not going to pm you
[00:14] <Izinucs> How do I change the "workgroup" name for networking
[00:14] <Jake_> i meant how do u talk to me directly not pm
[00:14] <digitig> Vantrax: Ok, so I need to point Amarok to the files via /dev/sda#, not via /media, is that right?
[00:14] <dulak> peleg: usually in that instance you switch your outgoing mail server to your ISPs which should let you through because you are on one of thier ips
[00:14] <sharki> how do I keep up with all these messages is a better question
[00:14]  * sharki hahaha
[00:14] <Jake_> i tried both and no luck
[00:14] <Jake_> idk y
[00:14] <compton> Izinucs: it's in the networking options
[00:15] <writing> Where is the doxygen config file for postgresql
[00:15] <ircd> sharki ok so once i cd to /home i just type tar cvf user.tar user; gzip user.tar?
[00:15] <Izinucs> compton: under "general"?
[00:15] <peleg> dulak: weird. I have never done it before. I'll check... thanks!
[00:15] <sharki> ircd: correct
[00:15] <bonez45> help. I just installed 8.04 lts server edition.. and I can't log in to either root or user... I know what passwds I set it up with, but non work...
[00:15] <Doc8404> no help :(
[00:15] <ircd> thanks :)
[00:15] <Rovin> Still can't get this problem with sound fixed...tried searching the forums too...it works on my partion for Vista..I want sound to come from only headphones/earphones when plugged in.
[00:15] <Jake_> any suggestions
[00:16] <shawn_> still no taskbars.......
[00:16] <Ahmed-Alaa> i need to know what package i need to download so i download it here on windows becaus i cant use pppoe on ubuntu
[00:16] <digitig> Vantrax: Except Amarok greys out the /dev tree in it's file source options :-(
[00:16] <Vantrax> digitig: you should be doing it through the /media/xyz mounts they are the same as the /dev/sds mounts
[00:16] <compton> Izinucs: I can't view it at the moment but I saw it earlier under one of the tabs on the network options
[00:16] <Jake_> csilk u there
[00:16] <xenophan> thanks for help
[00:16] <Izinucs> compton: as in "Domain name" ?  It defaults to workgroup when identified by the network but there is nothing actually listed in "Domain name"..
[00:16] <r00t_> Could someone at least point me to aplce wher ei can find help? i really dont want to format/reinstall over some stupid assignment/movie i dont want to watch.
[00:16] <compton> Izinucs: yes that's what I thought
[00:16] <Jake_> can anyoen help me
[00:17] <Izinucs> !ask | r00t_
[00:17] <Vantrax> r00t have you tried using vlc to play the files
[00:17] <Jake_> i cant find a local host for nessesu
[00:17] <diskin> pavel-, enable debug in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[00:17] <sharki> jake: wat's up?
[00:17] <Jake_> *Nessus
[00:17] <shawn_> anybody? out there .. well this isent making my choice to switch to linux any better
[00:17] <greghere> How do I change my password in Hardy?
[00:17] <Jake_> i cant connect to a local host for Nessus
[00:17] <peleg> dulak: http://www.lunarlamp.co.uk/bethere-smtp-server ... thanks.. :-)
[00:17] <Izinucs> compton: k.. I'll give it a try
[00:17] <sharki> greghere: just like you change password in any other unix... passwd
[00:17] <Vantrax> !manners | shawn_
[00:17] <ircd> sharki im getting tar: user: Cannot stat: No such file or directory
[00:17] <ircd> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[00:17] <diskin> pavel-, it will go to /var/log/debug.log I think...
[00:18] <Jake_> sharki do u got any idea
[00:18] <Izinucs> compton: then do I need to restart the network to get it to take effect?
[00:18] <shawn_> well i'm on my last atempts before i go back to windows
[00:18] <pavel-> diskin: ok, want another /var/log/gdm paste?
[00:18] <sharki> ircd: oh wow.... dude, replace 'user' with the actual username you're trying to archive.... do an 'ls' before running tar to see what directories you have...
[00:18] <r00t_> Izinucs, i have already asked my question
[00:18] <compton> Izinucs: try http://www.europe.eclipse.co.uk/Ubuntu/Workgroups.htm it expains how to edit the samba conf
[00:18] <digitig> Vantrax: Ok, I did do it via the /media/xyz mounts, but when I reboot Amarok can't see the files until I have opened the drive from the places menu -- then I have to rebuild the collection (it's was at 20% when I came here to ask about it, now it's at 74% -- I don't want to have to do that on every boot!)
[00:18] <ircd> yeah i did that sharki
[00:18] <Izinucs> compton: thanks.
[00:18] <sharki> shawn_: ooohhh, me scared
[00:18] <r00t_> Izinucs, but as you asked i will ask again
[00:19] <Izinucs> r00t_: sorry came in late and didn't have any scroll back..
[00:19] <Jake_> can anyone help me i cant connectto a local host for Nessus
[00:19] <csilk> Jake_, yes
[00:19] <Jake_> i still cant get it
[00:19] <Jake_> csilk_, any other ideas
[00:19] <diskin> pavel-, yes, with debug, perhaps debug info will go to /var/log/debug.log - not sure
[00:19] <sharki> ircd: the error message you showed says that tar cannot find the directory, so you must be mistyping it...
[00:20] <csilk> r00t_,  ask again, since you asked new people have joined and other people have started watching, i fi randomly see "hey guys plz answer me" how do I know what you originally asked?
[00:20] <joshual> is there an app I can use to control cpu profile when my laptop is plugged in and when its not?
[00:20] <hardcore> in the terminal whats the difference between apt and aptitude? apt wouldn't install xfce but aptitude did
[00:20] <bonez45> passwd issue? anyone know where I went wrong in installing?
[00:20] <Ahmed-Alaa> i need to connect to the internet by pppoe via wireless i cant find my wifi card in the pppoe list :'(??
[00:20] <Ahmed-Alaa> i need to know what package i need to download so i download it here on windows becaus i cant use pppoe on ubuntu
[00:20] <Rovin> is Wubi only designed for testing purposes? are there any disadvantages than using it from a real installation of Ubuntu?
[00:20] <csilk> Jake_, did those ports not work?
[00:20] <Moodles> I have 2 computers, 1 is updated to the latest, and 1 is a fresh install of 8.04... do I just need to share /var/cache/apt/archives to get the fresh 8.04 install updated without using my net connection?
[00:20] <Jake_> they both did not
[00:20] <Jake_> are there any others or is there a way i can find one
[00:20] <bonhoffer> i have to type sudo locate foo -- is there a way to be able to just type locate foo without being su
[00:20] <bonhoffer> ?
[00:20] <bobby> i want to use only part of a hard drive for Ubuntu
[00:20] <bobby> how would that be partitinoed?
[00:20] <csilk> Jake_, use this command>  ps -A | grep “nessusd”
[00:21] <bobby> the other half already has Windows installed
[00:21] <csilk> Jake_,  and tell me what output you get
[00:21] <sharki> bohnoffer: use at your own risk: 'sudo bash'
[00:21] <pavel-> diskin: 2 error lines appeared in the log: (EE) [drm] Could not set DRM device bus ID. (EE) intel(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed.  Is Ubuntu 64 worth the download? I have a standard Hardy 32bit ISO handy.
[00:23] <sharki> bonez45: shoot, what's the question?
[00:23] <pavel-> diskin: here's the debug paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/61757/
[00:23] <sharki> somebody ban shawn
[00:23] <sharki> plz
[00:23] <dulak> GleepGlop: how much ram you have?
[00:23] <csilk> Jake_, Sorry this isn't a nessus support channel, I advise you read the documentation, nessus is a complex piece of software, I can't imagine anyone is going to hold your hand through the whole thing
[00:23] <diskin> pavel-, ok
[00:23] <Vantrax> lol i never even found out what shawns question was:P
[00:23] <GleepGlop> 4GB
[00:23] <dulak> GleepGlop: then 64 bit probably isn't worth the download
[00:23] <Jake_> i just wana know how to install daemon
[00:23] <bonhoffer> i know it is possible to run an app as local user -- should i just chmod the executable?
[00:24] <bobby> thanks
[00:24] <csilk> Vantrax,  yeah, all he had on his desktop was his irc client, everything dies apparently
[00:24] <csilk> it was hard to get anything else out of him other than that
[00:24] <bonez45> sharki: ok, I just d/l'd the 8.04lts server edition. and installed it.. it had no errors, no issues, but it boots back up.. and gives a prompt.. I try to log in as root and no go.. and then as user.. and I know what passwds I assigned, but nothing works, I can't log in
[00:24] <GleepGlop> dulak: yeah, I might go with Arch instead of Ubuntu on this system and have i686m binaries
[00:24] <Vantrax> sounds like driver issues:P but how the heck can so sort anything from that
[00:24] <GleepGlop> *i686
[00:25] <sharki> bonez45: 1sec, I'll tell you what to do
[00:25] <digitig> Anyone any ideas on my Amarok issue?
[00:25] <csilk> Jake_, http://www.ubuntux.org/how-to-install-the-vulnerability-scanner-nessus
[00:25] <bonez45> ok
[00:25] <bobby> hold on. does installing ubuntu on a hard drive that already has windows on it install cleaning the hard drive and putting your windows files back in?
[00:25] <r00t_> i need to see this video for my indy film class,can someone please tell me how to watcg/burn it? these are the files im working with:http://pastebin.com/m7943daa3
[00:25] <bonhoffer> hmm /usr/bin/locate is 777!
[00:25] <r00t_> the only large one is the .bin
[00:25] <bonhoffer> really it is a symlink to /etc/alternatives/locate with this permission!
[00:26] <bonhoffer> is this normal?
[00:26] <csilk> r00t_, one of those files is .avi  you can play that in any media player
[00:27] <hardcore> how come i can't play dvds in xubuntu?
[00:27] <lucax> whats the difference between i386 and i686?
[00:27] <r00t_> csilk, yes but its not what i need.. its only a min long
[00:27] <sharki> bonez45: how good are you with linux? or unix in general?
[00:27] <digitig> bobby: not if you do it right. A modern partitioner should let you clear some space and make Ubuntu partitions without damaging existing data -- but it's risky, so best to backup anyway.
[00:27] <csilk> r00t_, so what do you need?
[00:27] <bonez45> sharki: I feel comfortable..
[00:27] <bonez45> I am no expert but I know my way around..
[00:27] <csilk> r00t_, i'll assume you wanna play the bin file, have you tried vlc???
[00:27] <bobby> digitig: I'm installing ubuntu from the boot cd; how would I go about this?  The documentation seems to claim that i have to clear my hd
[00:27] <r00t_> csilk, i need to view the movie,the.bin is 700megs but it plays no sound when i know from my classmates that the movie works
[00:28] <r00t_> csilk, yes i have tried it ño sound
[00:28] <csilk> r00t_,  see my previous comment
[00:28] <Rovin> is Wubi only designed for testing purposes? are there any disadvantages than using it from a real installation of Ubuntu?
[00:28] <bonhoffer> can someone give me a small pointer to how to let a non super user run 'locate' -- i don't know how to ask google this question?
[00:28] <csilk> oh rite
[00:28] <hardcore> how come i can't play dvds in xubuntu?
[00:28] <csilk> r00t_,  how did your classmates play it?
[00:28] <sharki> bonez45: just boot into "livecd, try" mode, mount your root partition (use 'fdisk -l' to see what's available), chroot to your mount, and run 'passwd root'
[00:28] <csilk> hardcore,  codec?
[00:28] <lars_> Hi all! Did the last Hardy update disturb the locale setting?
[00:28] <sharki> bonez45: if you need explanation on any of those to-dos let me know
[00:28] <bonez45> sharki.. ok..
[00:28] <hardcore> i have ubuntu installed and logged into xfce. are the codecs different?
[00:29] <r00t_> csilk, they have windows,it would require me to uninstall ubuntu/then reinstall windows
[00:29] <bonhoffer> sorry, i had not identified and might not have been visible (sorry new at this), can someone give me a small pointer to how to let a non super user run 'locate' -- i don't know how to ask google this question?
[00:29] <diskin> pavel-, nothing related to gdm in the debug log.
[00:29] <bonez45> sharki: all but the chroot to my mount I understand
[00:30] <sharki> bonez45: ok, that's real easy... say you installed on /dev/sda6, so (mkdir /mnt/sda6; mount /dev/sda6 /mnt/sda6; chroot /mnt/sda6)
[00:30] <r00t_> csilk, thanks anyways,i need to get this essay in asap,so im going to format/reinstALL windows
[00:30] <pavel-> diskin: didnt think so... looks like im on command line for now lol
[00:30] <bonhoffer> so how to run 'locate' or any bin without sudo -- any pointer works . . . thanks in advance
[00:30] <bonez45> sharki: ok, that's what I needed..
[00:30] <digitig> Bobby: It's a long time since I did it (this time I did it on a clean 2nd drive), but the partitioner used to allow you to non-destructively resize the existing partition. But you might need to defrag first, because if the Windows data is all over the disk the partitioner might not be able to move the boundary. Best ask somebody who knows the current partitioner -- all I know is I've done it in the past!
[00:30] <sharki> bonez45: that'll make it look as if your root dir is actually /mnt/sda6
[00:31] <hardcore> i have ubuntu installed and logged into xfce. are the codecs different?
[00:31] <csilk> r0bby, just answer my damn question, having windows is not the answer, i said how do your classmate run the bin file, it has nothing to do with windows, it has everything to do with the software they are using
[00:31] <sharki> bonez45: then in the same terminal!!! not in a new one, run 'passwd' and you'll update /dev/sda6/etc/shadow with your password, which should allow you to login
[00:31] <csilk> oh he went
[00:31] <fatfishy> think i might be having EDID errors
[00:31] <lars_> how can you get a list of the ubuntu patches for e.g 8.04.1?
[00:31] <fatfishy> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+question/39299
[00:32] <diskin> bonhoffer, what does it say to you whn you run locate?
[00:32] <Vantrax> bonhoffer its just locate <some item>
[00:33] <Vantrax> ie locate fglrx
[00:33] <LightTitan> what's the best application for linux to run windows on top of it? I know there is VMWare, is there anything better?
[00:33] <bonhoffer> locate: can not open '/var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db': Permission denied
[00:33] <bonhoffer> LightTitan, heard good things about vbox
[00:33] <LightTitan> k, will look into it, thanks
[00:33] <hardcore> is there a way to make dvds play in xfce? the worked just fine in gnome
[00:33] <csilk> hardcore, yes
[00:33] <tc111> scp/ssh question... i want to copy files from hosta:123 to hostb:456 without copying them local first and without copying directly from hosta to hostb (my workstation in the middle doing the work)... suggestions?
[00:33] <bonez45> sharki: this is the server edition, there's no Live CD option when I boot with this..
[00:33] <sharki> bonez45: forgot to mention... if you're like me and create partitions for /usr, etc. you'll need to mount that inside the chroot (say your /usr is on /dev/sda7, just 'mount /dev/sda7 /mnt/sda6/usr), u get the idea...
[00:34] <csilk> hardcore, install the required codecs
[00:34] <hardcore> csilk, do you know where to find the codecs?
[00:34] <bonez45> sharki: so I need to find a livecd disc, instead of this server disc, right?
[00:34] <LightTitan> bonhoffer: try sudo gedit /var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db if your wanting to edit the file or something.
[00:34] <sharki> bonez45: uhoh... I had no idea... then u need any other bootable linuxcd, personally I prefer fedora, but that's just me
[00:34] <Vantrax> bonhoffer can you run ls -la /var/lib/mlocate
[00:34] <bonhoffer> ok.
[00:35] <sharki> bonez45: any linux livecd is what you need
[00:35] <bonez45> ok..
[00:35] <jdrane>  hi all...im kinda of a noob to the world of linux admin.  I would like some advice, please.  I am looking to convert fully from a win200k server environment...to a linux (probably running ubuntu) server. But i am curious what the linux equiv. to Active User Directory is. Any advice is appreicated. thanks
[00:35] <sharki> bonez45: I'm not an Ubuntu person, maybe someone here knows a trick with the server cd, I'm not sure...
[00:35] <bonhoffer> . and .. with 7 + r_xr_x and mlocate.db with -rw-r-----------
[00:35] <jimdandy> Hey peoples. I'm having a problem with streamtuner--I edit the preferences, eg. to make totem the default app for listening to a stream, and everything works, till I close it and reopen it--then my changes are gone. How can I make the preferences persist till the next run?
[00:35] <bonez45> sharki: I can boot into other partitiosn. other 8.04 desktop editions on that machine.. can I access it to run passwd root from those?
[00:35] <bonhoffer> Vantrax, is this standard
[00:36] <Vantrax> jdrane: id actually use centros for that
[00:36] <sharki> bonez45: hehe, if you can do that, you can just cut&paste your encrypted password string from /etc/shadow, but the answer is yes you can do what I said
[00:36] <hardcore> vlc made it play just fine
[00:36] <Vantrax> er Centos
[00:37] <jdrane> Vantrax, so are your desktops running centos as well
[00:37] <sharki> bonez45: just boot into the working installation, and do the same thing, mount+chroot+passwd, that's cleaner
[00:37] <RedEyess> broken packages seizing my computer!
[00:37] <RedEyess> libstdc6-2.4
[00:37] <RedEyess> -dev
[00:38] <RedEyess> it's a paing
[00:38] <RedEyess> pain
[00:38] <FloodBot1> RedEyess: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:38] <Doc8404>  hey guys how do i fix this http://pastebin.ca/1235180 and i get that error when i type in sudo apt-get update so its like a circle of death
[00:38] <sharki> if libstdc6-2.4 was broken you wouldn't be talking to us...
[00:38] <Vantrax> jdrane, no but the linux servers we have are running CentOS, the desktops are running ubuntu
[00:38] <RedEyess> it's not allowing me to install it through the upgrade
[00:38] <Vantrax> CentOS is kinda like readhat but better package management
[00:39] <sharki> Vantrax: oh yeah? how so??? (I'm really interested as an SA)
[00:39] <jdrane> so you created the users using selinux in Cedntos on the server
[00:39] <sharki> Vantrax: is it 'yummier'??? :))))
[00:39] <Doc8404> csilk_
[00:39] <jdrane> centos
[00:39] <Doc8404> csilk
[00:39] <epuck> I think a good alternative to ms active dir is ldap!
[00:39] <Vantrax> lol
[00:40] <sharki> epuck == epicfail
[00:40] <csilk> Doc8404, ?
[00:40] <Doc8404> csilk how do i fix this http://pastebin.ca/1235180 and i get that error when i type in sudo apt-get update so its like a circle of death
[00:40] <sharki> epuck: AD is an LDAP ripoff
[00:40] <sharki> literally
[00:40] <sharki> down to the source
[00:40] <jimdandy> Will someone please help me fix my streamtuner?
[00:40] <epuck> ok hehe
[00:41] <csilk> Doc8404, I like the way you pick me out to fix your problem even though I've never spoken to you before -_-
[00:41] <Vantrax> sharki: Good writeup here: http://www.singlehop.com/blog/2007/01/31/decision-time-centos-vs-rhel/
[00:41] <eddVRS> lol
[00:41] <digitig> csilk: Fame at last?
[00:41] <csilk> Doc8404,  anyway, simple fix remove the following line from you /etc/apt/sources.list  http://download.tuxfamily.org feisty/eyecandy Packages
[00:41] <Vantrax> basically they are the same but CentOS is a little more safe with its package updates
[00:42] <jimdandy> Hi, would someone please help me with my streamtuner problem?
[00:42] <jdrane> basically i have a small school, that has a P>O>S server , the user groups are brokens down into admin, faculity, and student, then again into respected user folders, with permissions. i want to dup. that in a linux  environ.
[00:42] <Doc8404> csilk yes you have
[00:42] <Rovin> hello, on the Ubuntu forums - where is the thread Notification option (if there is one).. :S
[00:42] <Ddorda> how do i discover what is my sound card?
[00:42] <xomp> Rovin, #ubuntu-forums
[00:42] <csilk> Doc8404, w/e anyway, remove the tuxfamily references
[00:42] <Rovin> sorry thanks
[00:42] <Vantrax> rovin: at the end of the post options
[00:43] <kmpressor> Hello all ubuntu users!
[00:43] <Doc8404> csilk thanks...
[00:43] <linuxlover69> Hello
[00:43] <rats> good morning :)
[00:43] <eddVRS> hi
[00:43] <Ddorda> how do i discover what is my sound card?
[00:43] <kmpressor> this is probably a dumb question
[00:43] <xomp> !repeat | Ddorda
[00:43] <sharki> Vantrax: that just sounds bizzare tho, how can a for-money-service-agreements-and-all OS be more aggressive with it's updates than it's opensource alternative???
[00:44] <sharki> Vantrax: lemme rtfm that article you pointed out...
[00:44] <Ddorda> you think nobody knows the answer?
[00:44] <Doc8404> to anyone who knows, whats the difference between inkjet and thermal inkjet
[00:44] <kmpressor> but why doesnt my wireless work any faster then 1mbs
[00:44] <legend2440> Ddorda: in terminal lspci | grep audio
[00:44] <Ddorda> i think it's a trivial thing
[00:44] <Ddorda> thanks!
[00:44] <csilk> Ddorda, be paitient
[00:44] <xomp> Ddorda, none the less it's no reason to spam the channel
[00:44] <Ddorda> yea, you're right.
[00:44] <Ddorda> sorry
[00:44] <Doc8404> kmpressor what type of wireless is it, and how far are you from the unit
[00:44] <sharki> Doc8404: the latter takes off while printing post script
[00:45] <csilk> Ddorda, paste the out og lspci somewhere for me
[00:45] <kmpressor> Doc: not far at all
[00:45] <csilk> **output of
[00:45] <kmpressor> 70% signal
[00:45] <Doc8404> sharki what lol
[00:45] <kmpressor> bm43XX driver
[00:45] <kmpressor> broadcom
[00:45] <woli> how can i get a fullscreen application to get on top of the panels?
[00:45] <xomp> kmpressor, Broadcom Wifi adapters are awful in ubuntu (concerning signal strength)
[00:45] <rats> I'm using a HP compaq 2510p with ubuntu 8.10. some of the function keys (battery status, sound volume, mute) aren't working propaly or at least doesnt work. On 8.04 they did. Any idea how to fix. If not, I'll create a bug report
[00:46] <Ddorda> what's the pastebin of this channel?
[00:46] <Ddorda> pastebin.ubuntu.co?
[00:46] <csilk> Ddorda, paste.ubuntu.com
[00:46] <legend2440> !paste
[00:46] <Ddorda> thanks
[00:46] <kmpressor> Is it being addressed at all
[00:46] <Doc8404> rats they havnt realeased a real version of 8.10 ur in a beta
[00:46] <rats> i know, i know
[00:46] <Ddorda> http://paste.ubuntu.com/61760/
[00:46] <Ddorda> the giuy who wanted it..
[00:47] <Doc8404> xomp not true, im running at around 350 on n mimo
[00:47] <csilk> Ddorda,  Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB4x0 High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[00:47] <Doc8404> sharki i didnt understand what you said?
[00:47] <Ddorda> thanks :)
[00:47] <xomp> Doc8404, my broadcom wifi in windows xp = blazing fast and good signal strength. Same card in ubuntu = epicfail and poor signal strength. I too run n mimo.
[00:47] <rats> Doc8404 the question was if it is known or not and if I should create a bug report or not
[00:47] <Doc8404> xomp i just checked the other laptop its running 54 on g. the same i got in windows
[00:48] <Doc8404> oh ok rats... well honostly create one. because well the more bugs that get reported the higher the ticket moves in the fix line
[00:48] <marki> how do i tell what packages are currently installed on my system
[00:48] <kmpressor> Are they going to fix the braodcom issue
[00:48] <Pav5088> Anybody here with some knowledge of openldap?  I'm wondering if anyone could give me some clues.  Error is here : http://pastebin.com/d1804644f
[00:48] <Doc8404> marki go the the synaptics package manager
[00:48] <sharki> Doc8404: it was a joke, sorry
[00:48] <bonhoffer> how do i run a .patch file
[00:48] <bonhoffer> ./mypatch.patch gives lots of errors
[00:48] <Doc8404> marki after that click status
[00:49] <xomp> kmpressor, not sure, I wouldn't even know who to bring the problems up too lol
[00:49] <kmpressor> Dam
[00:49] <csilk> Doc8404> because well the more bugs that get reported the higher the ticket moves in the fix line ||| haha thats simply not true
[00:49] <rats> Doc8404 thank you for this information, I will do so. meanwhile I can handle with this small disadvantages :)
[00:49] <marki> doc: good! :)
[00:49] <Doc8404> lol rats... i wait till the beta testing is done, and 1 week of reviews dont say "this sucks" or "to many issues this is horrible"
[00:49] <kmpressor> i can deal with it but when it comes to straming vids from my vid server its horrible
[00:50] <marki> is there a command line method? searched but could not find ti
[00:50] <xomp> kmpressor, but don't let me get you down :) I just despise wifi in linux because I've had inconceivable issues with dozens of wifi adapters in ubuntu :P
[00:50] <sharki> bonez45: still here?
[00:50]  * sharki about to bounce
[00:50] <PassionFRUI7E> Hello.  I need help installing Ubuntu.  I hit Enter while runnng the boot cd.  My HD spins, but nothing happens.  Then I gain control back and can click again.
[00:50] <Doc8404> xomp u got a ghost following ur systems:P
[00:50] <LightTitan> Ok, I know this is simple, but it's eluding me... how do I change my mouse pointers?
[00:50] <rats> DoC8404 sometimes you don't have a choise and sometimes you are the beta tester :)
[00:50] <LightTitan> oh and Icons too
[00:51] <Doc8404> rats i dont beta test no no no... to many horror stories of equipment going kaputs lol
[00:51] <RedEyess> please check out : Paste from redeyess at Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:50:47 +0100
[00:51] <amason_> hey guys, i have an x200 stinkpad, with intrepid almost everything works out of the box, however i was curious if anyone had the same model and knew how to stop the fans from spinning up 100%
[00:51] <xomp> Doc8404, lol, nah, I had some atheros based wifi and prism2 based cards that are literally not supported in linux period lol. Atleast that's been my experience :(
[00:51] <PassionFRUI7E> Anyone have any ideas?  I burned the 64bit iso.
[00:51] <kmpressor> Anyone know what changes are made in 8.10
[00:51] <RedEyess> i am having problems with updating ubuntu
[00:51] <Doc8404> xomp lol... ghosts!!! :P
[00:51] <LightTitan> oh wait, found it
[00:51] <legend2440> marki: in terminal type    dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages  will create a file called my-packages with list of installed packages
[00:51] <rats> Doc8404: hmm, bad stories, ur right
[00:51] <Doc8404> kmpressor you can kill noobs in chat :D
[00:51] <Doc8404> jk
[00:51] <csilk> kmpressor,  that question has to big of an answer for IRC
[00:52] <kmpressor> lol
[00:52] <xomp> Doc8404, prism2 based cards in linux is like 2 boys dancin', it just ain't right :(
[00:52] <kmpressor> i can imagin
[00:52] <PassionFRUI7E> Anyone want to help me?..I got most everything working it just does nothing when I click install.
[00:52] <kmpressor> forgive me this is the first linus os that i have decided to go full force on
[00:52] <kmpressor> i no longer use windows
[00:52] <Doc8404> yeah rats, like my ps3... ive got a 2gig ram, self modded lol, 320 gig 7200.3rpm hd running linux water cooled. well a buddy of mine with the same setup ran some betas. and his ps3 went kaputs because the software was way over bugged. it locked up his system, and his HD was crashed
[00:52] <xomp> kmpressor, great to hear! :) I'm still stuck with XP for a while (until Team Fortress 2 and Silent Hill 3 can be playable) heh
[00:52] <sharki> bbl
[00:52] <Doc8404> kmpressor!!! good job killing that M$Evil
[00:53] <kmpressor> Considering the IT industry is pushing Linux really hard now i figured id force myself to learn it
[00:53] <PassionFRUI7E> Anyone...sgh.
[00:53] <kmpressor> O
[00:53] <kmpressor>  yea
[00:53] <xomp> !anyone | PassionFRUI7E
[00:53] <kmpressor> someone tell me how to get BF2142 working
[00:53] <csilk> kmpressor,  google
[00:53] <kmpressor> i have
[00:54] <Doc8404> kmpressor 427 of the 500 super computers in the world run linux now, and 40 are dual boot. only 5 are windows based. the fastest of them all runs at 6XXX number of dual core processors on 35.7 TB of ram and can processes 1000 trillion bits of info a second
[00:54] <xomp> kmpressor, do you have an ATI video card?
[00:54] <kmpressor> couldnt find crap
[00:54] <PassionFRUI7E> Hm ubottu?
[00:54] <kmpressor> naw nvidia
[00:54] <marki> legend: Thanks! that worked :)
[00:54] <PassionFRUI7E> Want me to type a book?
[00:55] <kmpressor> Well even now i can show people how much faster it runs compaierd to XP
[00:55] <xomp> sheesh, what's with peoples attitude here? Asking for help nicely has been replaced by pompus jerks whinning about having to explain their problems fully..
[00:55] <rats> Doc8404 okay, that's hard; however, I've to go to work now, it's almost 10 min to eight! I wish U all a pleasant evening / night ... and for the few asiens/Pacifics a good start in the day :P
[00:55] <kmpressor> dont even mention the new age Milleniom os MS came out with
[00:55] <Doc8404> rats good luck at work
[00:55] <mercutio22> trying to log into gnome I get the error message "Users $HOME/.dmrc file is being ignored. ... File should be owned by user and have 644 permissions. User's $HOME directory must be owned by user and not writable by othe users.
[00:55] <DEVELOPER> hi alll
[00:55] <Doc8404> kmpressor ME? thats old and horrible lol
[00:55] <rats> as always :) bye Doc8404
[00:55] <gm04030276> I'm actually starting a business hoping to push linux into SMB's in NI :)
[00:55] <PassionFRUI7E> 1) I burned the ubuntu 8.04 64-bit amd/intel iso  2) I booted the cd  3) I get the main dialog  4)  I click the top install option  5) HDD spins, 4 seconds later I gain control.
[00:55] <kmpressor> Vista isa the new ME
[00:55] <kmpressor> lol
[00:56] <mercutio22> can someone help me fix this?
[00:56] <DEVELOPER> who can halp me with ati driver problemmmmmmmmm
[00:56] <Doc8404> passion can your comp handle 64 bit? not trying to be mean but some like my toshiba dont
[00:56] <Jordan_U> kmpressor: According to wine's appdb it has a gold rating, have you tried just running it in wine?
[00:56] <PassionFRUI7E> I bought my laptop 20 days ago.
[00:56] <kmpressor> it keeps asking for the cd
[00:56] <PassionFRUI7E> Hp DV7-1130US.  4gigs expandable to 8, 2x2.0ghz
[00:56] <kmpressor> in my case a dvd
[00:56] <PassionFRUI7E> 5400 hd, 200gb
[00:56] <xomp> PassionFRUI7E, buying a laptop 20 days ago != 64-bit system OOB
[00:56] <LightTitan> Woot, I love it when I get almost everything like I want it in Linux... that's usually when I mess something up really bad though and have to start all over >.<
[00:56] <kmpressor> Nice lap Passion
[00:56] <PassionFRUI7E> It runs everything completely fine
[00:56] <writing> how do I install everything that doxygen depends on?
[00:57] <csilk> kmpressor, bf does not work on uubntu, not in a playable manner anyway
[00:57] <PassionFRUI7E> It is a 64-bit Vista home premium
[00:57] <kmpressor> DAM
[00:57] <PassionFRUI7E> It was only 650 lol.
[00:57] <Delicates> How do you unset _res.options (RES_USE_INET6 in particular)?
[00:57] <DEVELOPER> who have ATI DRIVER  catalist 8.10
[00:57] <kmpressor> i cant even get steam on it so i can play Counter Strike
[00:57] <eddVRS> 650 what?
[00:57] <PassionFRUI7E> Just a summer work treat since I never bought a latop.
[00:57] <LightTitan> So who here is running Ubuntu Intrepid 64bit?
[00:57] <PassionFRUI7E> 650 USD.
[00:57] <Jordan_U> writing: install doxygen via synaptic / apt
[00:57] <gm04030276> mercutio22:is that the complete message it shows you?
[00:58] <csilk> kmpressor, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CounterStrike
[00:58] <PassionFRUI7E> I'm a college student majoring in computer science(programming).  Getting a masters after I get a job.
[00:58] <mercutio22> gm04030276, no, there is more. Do you need the whole thing?
[00:58] <kmpressor> Good luck Kid
[00:58] <PassionFRUI7E> Anyway...
[00:58] <legend2440> DEVELOPER: using hardy or intrepid?
[00:58] <kmpressor> i wish the best for ya
[00:58] <gm04030276> mercutio22: no, thats ok. right, give me a wee second here
[00:58] <PassionFRUI7E> Anyone know any problems that would cause the installer to do nothing then return control after 4 seconds?
[00:59] <mercutio22> gm04030276, ok, thnks
[00:59] <gm04030276> PassionFRUI7E: running of cd?!
[00:59] <PassionFRUI7E> This is the third iso i've burned, the first didnt work and the second did the same thing.
[00:59] <danbh_intrepid> PassionFRUI7E: are you using the alternate cd?  or live cd?
[00:59] <PassionFRUI7E> Running off the 64bit burnt iso from the nfrontpage
[00:59] <PassionFRUI7E> Live
[00:59] <kmpressor> What kind of lap do you have
[00:59] <PassionFRUI7E> HP DV7-1130us
[00:59] <writing> how do I install dot
[00:59] <danbh_intrepid> PassionFRUI7E: maybe try the 32bit alternate cd
[00:59] <PassionFRUI7E> Model released VERY recently
[00:59] <DEVELOPER> i wont to install ati catalist 8.10 driver and i install but when i login in the os  ther are splashh white  screen ???  now i enter wiht safe mod
[00:59] <kmpressor> i had a problem like that before
[00:59] <PassionFRUI7E> Roger.  Downloading
[01:00] <danbh_intrepid> !intrepid | DEVELOPER
[01:00] <kmpressor> it was something in the bios that didnt allow booting from disk
[01:00] <PassionFRUI7E> Hm kmpressor?
[01:00] <DEVELOPER> whot can i fix in xorg !@@
[01:00] <DEVELOPER> hardy
[01:00] <PassionFRUI7E> I am inside of the disk installer.
[01:00] <Jordan_U> writing: Do you know what the synaptic package manager is?
[01:00] <PassionFRUI7E> Only option that does anything is to boot from vista.
[01:00] <kmpressor> something HP does so that you cant load another OS
[01:00] <PassionFRUI7E> In which I select ubuntu or vista.
[01:00] <LightTitan> Ok, so every time I open up firefox it loads kinda like it's fullscreen... I then have to hit F11 twice to get a top bar... first time puts me into fullscreen completely, and second takes it out. Anyone know why it does this?
[01:00] <DEVELOPER> i use hady 8.4.1 !!!
[01:00] <PassionFRUI7E> I bypassed that after like 20 minutes.  Now I can actually access the menu.
[01:00] <tc111> i need to copy files from host(a) port 123 at site(a) to host(b) port 456 at site(b) from my machine at site(c) without copying them local first and without copying directly from hosta to hostb... any suggestions?
[01:00] <kmpressor> O ok
[01:01] <legend2440> DEVELOPER: did you enable ati driver in   system>admin>hardware drivers?
[01:01] <LightTitan> I am using Intrepid and loving it
[01:01] <gm04030276> mercutio22: i've went to a single chat with you, it'll be easier
[01:01] <kmpressor> So when you go to the ubuntu screen you can select install ubuntu right\?
[01:01] <PassionFRUI7E> But I click any of the options except the bottom (boot from disk) and HDD makes noise for 4 seconds then I get control back.
[01:01] <PassionFRUI7E> Basically.
[01:01] <csilk> kmpressor,  americans army works on ubuntu :D
[01:01] <PassionFRUI7E> I'll troubleshoot for another hour then I got to work on homework.  Any ideas?
[01:01] <csilk> *americas
[01:01] <kmpressor> SWEET ASS
[01:01] <eddVRS> PassionFRUI7E: have you tried checking disc for errors?
[01:02] <kmpressor> im there
[01:02] <PassionFRUI7E> AA is a hacker heaven =/
[01:02] <LightTitan> DEVELOPER: What he needs to do is get EnvyNG and use that to install and configure his ATI drivers
[01:02] <PassionFRUI7E> Third ISO
[01:02] <PassionFRUI7E> I'll RE-DL again I guess
[01:02] <kmpressor> anyway back to PAssion
[01:02] <DEVELOPER> i enable its works but i vont install ati catalist driver 8.10.or 8.6 but its do seym error :(
[01:02] <csilk> kmpressor, I'm downloading it now, we should play some online together
[01:02] <kmpressor> no no no
[01:02] <kmpressor> i dout its your iso
[01:02] <mouseboyx> PassionFRUI7E, try the 32 bit version.
[01:02] <PassionFRUI7E> KK.
[01:02] <DEVELOPER> i install envy with 8.6 but its do seym errorrrr
[01:02] <Doc8404> advice which prints higher quality. thermal inkjet, or laser?
[01:02] <kmpressor> where are you getting it from
[01:02] <PassionFRUI7E> Are you sure mouseboyx?
[01:02] <kmpressor> Ubuntu.com
[01:02] <PassionFRUI7E> Official site.
[01:02] <PassionFRUI7E> OSU Open Source Lab.
[01:02] <mouseboyx> Yes, 64 is backwards compatible with 32.
[01:02] <PassionFRUI7E> But...will I lose any power?
[01:02] <kmpressor> yea it is
[01:03] <LightTitan> DEVELOPER: Oh well, past that I have no advice... I'm still a novice myself
[01:03] <jdrane> again a NOOB ?,  with LDAP loaded on my server.... if i set groups/users up on the server.....how do i configure the desktop environ. login to user the LDAP credentials?
[01:03] <PassionFRUI7E> I have no reason for linux, just curious.
[01:03] <kmpressor> so im not sure why your having such a problem
[01:03] <legend2440> DEVELOPER: in terminal type   fglrxinfo   does it say  ATI or Mesa?
[01:03] <usser_> DEVELOPER, as far as i know ati driver still doesnt support 8.10
[01:03] <usser_> DEVELOPER, you'll have to stick with open source driver until ati pulls their act together andd finally fix their crappy software
[01:03] <kmpressor> Once you go ubuntu you never go back
[01:03] <mouseboyx> PassionFRUI7E,  you might gain power, nothing is optimized for 64bit anyway.
[01:03] <PassionFRUI7E> I use Visual Studio Professional 2008 for schoolwork, just wanted to see speed.
[01:03] <thiebaude> yup, kmpressor
[01:03] <PassionFRUI7E> Code::Blocks, ect.
[01:03] <eddVRS> true enough kmpressor
[01:03] <IntangibleLiquid> anyone travelling/ working in Vietnam around Nov 15? We're organizing our first Barcamp on that day :-)
[01:03] <legend2440> usser_: he said hes using hardy
[01:03] <kmpressor> u can always install vmware and put xp on it for VS
[01:03] <PassionFRUI7E> And I love control.  If I had a stick shift I'd be in heaven =P
[01:04] <kitche> usser_: well amd is working on the hd driver but it still is a bad driver overall really
[01:04] <PassionFRUI7E> I won't emulate, I'll just DualBoot.
[01:04] <LightTitan> DEVELOPER: I agree with him...  Switch to NVidia imo =P
[01:04] <PassionFRUI7E> I'm not a HDD space whore, my 200ish HDD is fine.
[01:04] <DEVELOPER> :(((((((  but whot abaut 8.6
[01:04] <PassionFRUI7E> Code doesn't take much space =P
[01:04] <usser_> legend2440, DEVELOPER nvm then i thought u meant 8.10
[01:04] <legend2440> DEVELOPER: in terminal type   fglrxinfo   does it say  ATI or Mesa?
[01:04] <kmpressor> a 25 gig XP should do you fine
[01:04] <DEVELOPER> i hawe a laptop dell with socksssss ati x1400
[01:04] <Doc8404> anyone here know which one prints a better quality. laser or inkjet
[01:04] <PassionFRUI7E> I don't want XP.
[01:04] <Optimus55> hey i'm looking at this page on launchpad about the high load/unload cycle: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/59695
[01:04] <kmpressor> in vmware i ment
[01:04] <bonhoffer> i am having mlocate problems, i type: pacman -S mlocate (per http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/6902) and i get a pacman game -- what shoud i do?
[01:04] <kmpressor> for Visual Studio
[01:05] <Optimus55> it says a fix has been released for ubuntu, will this be incorporated in the new release?
[01:05] <DEVELOPER> its sey mesa becos i login in safe mod
[01:05] <kmpressor> i dont think that will run in wine
[01:05] <darren> ok i have a question out of all the people in here who are used to windows and tryed ubuntu, do you still duel boot with windows or just ubuntu
[01:05] <PassionFRUI7E> Well I'll just go back to Vista64 if nobody has any ideas.
[01:05] <usser_> kitche, i know i know, i just wish they'd spared more ppl to work on linux driver or opensourced it
[01:05] <PassionFRUI7E> Again lol, I won't tough linux when it comes to school.  I love MS.
[01:05] <jdrane> im using ubunut studio i killed windoze
[01:05] <kmpressor> I switched all pcs to ubuntu
[01:05] <PassionFRUI7E> *tough->touch
[01:05] <thiebaude> darren:i dont have windows on my computer
[01:05] <kmpressor> Passion
[01:06] <PassionFRUI7E> I'm here.
[01:06] <darren> thiebaude, ok thanks its was just curiosity
[01:06] <kitche> usser_: well considering that the hd drivers are the ati drivers at least for the newer cards but to me doesn't matter if they open source their drivers anyways they would probably still be bad
[01:06] <Doc8404> openoffice.org was rated higher than M$Evil Office
[01:06] <kmpressor> dont give up im sure there is something really stupid simple thats causeing you issue
[01:06] <mouseboyx> PassionFRUI7E, it is the exact opposite for me, it pains me to boot into windows to have to do something.
[01:06] <DEVELOPER> i install drivers whell but when i restart ther are splash screen :( i think i mast chanje sameting in xorg.conf
[01:06] <legend2440> DEVELOPER: oh ok  can you pastebin your   /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[01:06] <PassionFRUI7E> Generally, I have terrible luck.
[01:06] <thiebaude> i got windows 2000 and xp cd's in the drawer
[01:06] <kmpressor> lol
[01:06] <legend2440> !paste | DEVELOPER
[01:06] <thiebaude> lol
[01:06] <PassionFRUI7E> MS Office 2008 is amazing.  Sorry I don't understand MS haters.
[01:06] <kmpressor> i get a new PC with Vista i wipe it out and put XP on it
[01:06] <gaten> my flashplayer in firefox 3.0.3 suddenly stopped working. i goto youtube.com and it tells me to get the lastest flash player. but the about:plugins shows I have shockwave 10 already installed. any suggestions?
[01:06] <LjL> !offtopic
[01:07] <kmpressor> It is good
[01:07] <PassionFRUI7E> VistA 32-BIT?
[01:07] <kmpressor> but have you noticed the resources it takes up
[01:07] <LjL> ^^^
[01:07] <PassionFRUI7E> Vista 32 is ME.  Vista 64 is Windows 6.5.
[01:07] <kmpressor> AERO alone is like half a gig
[01:07] <PassionFRUI7E> k.
[01:07] <PassionFRUI7E> I got 8 gigs of ram.  I use them.
[01:07] <Doc8404> ive only seen office 2007.. im just saying
[01:07] <thiebaude> i think windows 2000 pro was the best ms OS
[01:08] <PassionFRUI7E> I'm not a docx fan either, but it converts back VERY well.
[01:08] <kmpressor> mee to but for stuff i need not for flashy crap thats not even that flashy
[01:08] <LjL> !offtopic | Doc8404, PassionFRUI7E, thiebaude, kmpressor
[01:08] <PassionFRUI7E> Just large file types.
[01:08] <PassionFRUI7E> Sorry.
[01:08] <PassionFRUI7E> Anyway, suggestions kmpressor?  32bit version?
[01:08] <Rovin> hello,if I am on Wubi - when I upgrade to 8.10...will it upgrade ok?
[01:08] <DEVELOPER> i haw 2 questions :)  naw i login in safe mod and i wont say may xorg.conf chenjing when i in safe mod or its seym
[01:08] <DEVELOPER> http://paste.ubuntu.com/61766/
[01:08] <darren> kmpressor, its all curiosity for me today but if i have aero clone set up on ubuntu does it use the same or less
[01:08] <bonhoffer> i know i can set a value with export FOO = 'hello'
[01:08] <kmpressor> Go 32 just for S&giggles
[01:08] <PassionFRUI7E> KK.
[01:08] <bonhoffer> how do i see the value of FOO
[01:09] <nkei0> heya everyone, anyone want to help me with a little java problem with 8.10 beta?
[01:09] <kmpressor> to be honest with you you wont see a performance boost in 64 cause nothing much is designed to use 64bit processing yet
[01:09] <LjL> bonhoffer: echo $FOO
[01:09] <LjL> !beta > nkei0    (nkei0, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:09] <PassionFRUI7E> Should I try non-Ubuntu8.04LTS?
[01:09] <bonhoffer> LjlL, thanks!
[01:09] <gaten> my flashplayer in firefox 3.0.3 suddenly stopped working. i goto youtube.com and it tells me to get the lastest flash player. but the about:plugins shows I have shockwave 10 already installed. any suggestions?
[01:10] <kmpressor> Just try regular 8.04lts and see what happens
[01:10] <PassionFRUI7E> KK.
[01:10] <darren> nkei0, try ubuntu+1
[01:10] <PassionFRUI7E> KK.
[01:10] <kmpressor> passion kmpressorx is my aim name if you have any Q's give me a shout
[01:10] <nkei0> LjL so should I just do one or the other or both?
[01:10] <Bling> hi
[01:10] <LjL> nkei0: you should ask in #ubuntu+1
[01:10] <PassionFRUI7E> 18 Minutes kmpressor.    And I just started C# and love it.  But of course who doesn't love C++.
[01:11] <kmpressor> forgive, i havent coded crap since college
[01:11] <PassionFRUI7E> No problem.
[01:12] <csilk> C# eww
[01:12] <kmpressor> thats what people said abouot kobol once
[01:12] <PassionFRUI7E> Don't eww C#.
[01:12] <kmpressor> and they still use it
[01:12] <darren> ok a question for all every one says ubuntu uses less memory and resourses than vista but if i want all the fancy things in ubuntu like vista clone and transparent windows and compiz activated with effects does ubuntu use less or just the same
[01:12] <Bling> i have ubuntu 8.4 and win xp
[01:12] <csilk> kmpressor, yeah but cobol was good
[01:12] <PassionFRUI7E> Do you even know how great C# is?
[01:12] <kmpressor> tru tru
[01:12] <kmpressor> the man has a point
[01:12] <csilk> PassionFRUI7E,  I know C# very well
[01:12] <LjL> offtopic in #ubuntu-offtopic PLEASE
[01:12] <PassionFRUI7E> What is DLLIMPORT nested in?
[01:12] <PassionFRUI7E> K...
[01:12] <PassionFRUI7E> People love to pick fights in here...
[01:12] <kmpressor> lol
[01:13] <kmpressor> i love irc
[01:13] <PassionFRUI7E> Yep.
[01:13] <kmpressor> ima go offtopic
[01:13] <mneptok> PassionFRUI7E: welcome to IRC
[01:13] <PassionFRUI7E> XD
[01:13] <Doc8404> lol
[01:13] <LjL> enough, there are people who have support questions if you haven't noticed
[01:13] <kmpressor> kkk
[01:13] <gaten> my flashplayer in firefox 3.0.3 suddenly stopped working. i goto youtube.com and it tells me to get the lastest flash player. but the about:plugins shows I have shockwave 10 already installed. any suggestions?
[01:13] <Doc8404> if someone has a question they should ask it... thats my theory... why run someone off. but im just a doctor im usually happy to help others lol
[01:13] <LjL> darren, it's hard to say how much "resources" something takes
[01:13] <mouseboyx> gaten, possibly reinstall them or remove then install ?
[01:13] <Doc8404> darren just go into your system it tells you what each process runs at
[01:13] <Bling> i love linux
[01:14] <darren> ok thanks to all
[01:14] <PassionFRUI7E> How you whisper in IRC?
[01:14] <legend2440> DEVELOPER: did you have compiz enabled when the white screen problem started?
[01:14] <Vantrax> darren comparatively linux will use less
[01:14] <csilk> PassionFRUI7E, /notice csilk message
[01:14] <gaten> mouseboyx:  tried that. reinstalled everything but firefox at this point. right now im trying to use abode's player installed right from their .deb
[01:15] <mouseboyx> gaten, I tried that today also, their deb does not work, use their tar.gz archive instead.
[01:15] <darren> Vantrax, ok thanks
[01:15] <kmpressor> shit if i know
[01:15] <Vantrax> darren: i can run linux + compiz + emerald +awn on a machine that cant run vista areo crap
[01:15] <LjL> !language
[01:15] <gaten> mouseboyx:  ahh ok, let me give that a shot. i think the update today broke it
[01:15] <kmpressor> soory
[01:15] <writing> I built the doxygen files, which file is the main one IE the one with the frames?\
[01:15] <DEVELOPER> i haw compiz but i dont now its startup with os or now
[01:15] <mouseboyx> Yeah, maybe gaten, if not try to reinstall it in the synaptic flash-nonfree.
[01:16] <darren> Vantrax, ok thanks im going to go look up +awn i have not tryed that yes
[01:16] <darren> yet
[01:16] <Doc8404> so out of curiosity, brother and cannon dont support opensource?
[01:16] <legend2440> DEVELOPER: ok to PM?
[01:16] <LjL> Doc8404: that's a good question for #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:17] <Doc8404> LjL its a question pertaining to ubuntu... im wondering if i get a printer from one of those companies is it going to function in my ubuntu 8.04
[01:17] <Vantrax> doc8404 not really no
[01:17] <LjL> !hardware | Doc8404
[01:17] <dmhardison> Is there a way I can specify as root to open a program on another user's display?
[01:17] <LjL> !printers > Doc8404    (Doc8404, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:18] <DEVELOPER> i think i must do samthing in may xorg.conf becous in tehere not full of info
[01:18] <LjL> dmhardison: unless that user has allowed external access to the X server, i don't think so - not easily at least, of course you "can" do anything as root. i'm not sure anyway.
[01:18] <legend2440> DEVELOPER: ok to PM?
[01:18] <gaten> mouseboyx:  what did you use for the installation path? /usr/lib/mozilla doesn't work
[01:18] <mouseboyx> hmmm, don't know...
[01:18] <DEVELOPER> what the pm :) i dont now :)
[01:18] <DEVELOPER> i am from ARMENIA
[01:18] <legend2440> DEVELOPER: ok to PM?  private message?
[01:19] <dmhardison> Can I amke a notification box on a gnome user's desktop easily?
[01:20] <mouseboyx> Tell you wate gaten, just use the synaptic to remove the flash plugin then install flash nonfree
[01:20] <LjL> dmhardison: you can use Zenity to make dialog boxes very easily, but as for actually showing it on the user's desktop, uhm
[01:20] <mouseboyx> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[01:21] <writing> how do I search for in the contents of files in a directory?
[01:21] <jeeves_Moss> how do I search for a specific file in shell?
[01:21] <LjL> writing: grep "keyword" directoryname/*
[01:21] <LjL> jeeves_Moss: locate filename
[01:21] <jeeves_Moss> LjL, does that work for the fill file system?
[01:21] <LjL> jeeves_Moss: (although that won't work if the file was created recently - in that case, use "find")
[01:22] <LjL> jeeves_Moss: yes
[01:24] <gaten> mouseboyx:  trying that
[01:24] <jeeves_Moss> LjL, ok, it's not working.  what would the syntax be to search the whole drive for "awstats_updateall.pl"
[01:25] <LjL> jeeves_Moss: just "locate filename". but if it's not working then use find, "sudo find / | grep awstats_updateall.pl"
[01:26] <jeeves_Moss> LjL, thanks.  it's searching
[01:26] <Reaverbot> How could I terminate a program from Konsole or Terminal?
[01:26] <LjL> Reaverbot: man kill
[01:26] <Ridd1er> hey all
[01:26] <danbh_intrepid> Reaverbot: pkill
[01:26] <semanticpc> is it possible to generate trees using LaTex ?
[01:26] <mouseboyx> Reaverbot, killall name
[01:26] <gaten> mouseboyx:  no luck. i deleted every linflashbplayer.so in the system, uninstalled them all and just installed flashplayer-nonfree. it sees that ti is installed, but wont play youtube
[01:26] <mouseboyx> did you restart firefox?
[01:27] <Ridd1er> anyone here familiar with running LIRC on gutsy?  I am having a lot of issues and it was working fine on feisty
[01:27] <cicero> my ubuntu (eee-pc 8.04 ubuntu eee) was working great with wireless until tonight -- now it can't seem to get an ip -- wired works fine and all other computers work fine . . .
[01:27] <josh||> semanticpc, what kind of trees? there are a few good linguistics classes available in apt
[01:27] <Reaverbot> killall worked, thanks to everyone!
[01:27] <cicero> what troubleshooting options do i have?
[01:27] <semanticpc> simple binary trees
[01:27] <Woody86> is there an open source option to using Microsoft Visio?
[01:27] <gm04030276> Dia is good
[01:27] <gm04030276> its similar to visio
[01:28] <cicero> sorry, i am a windows user -- new to linux -- in windows i get a list of networks and i just pick which one to connect to -- ubuntu was working, but now it seems like there is very little troubleshooting i can do
[01:28] <Woody86> gm04030276 -  Is it completely compatible?
[01:28] <josh||> aha not sure about that.. check out ctan though: http://www.ctan.org
[01:28] <semanticpc> josh__, how do i add packages to texlive ?
[01:28] <jeeves_Moss> LjL, thanks, I found what I needed
[01:28] <cicero> the only error i get is 'no network connection'
[01:28] <gaten> mouseboyx:  yes
[01:28] <josh||> well  if you install via apt, they'll get used automatically
[01:28] <gm04030276> Woody86: no idea! hold on ill see if i can find what files is supports, what file ext does visio save in?
[01:29] <Rovin> If I request a install CD for Ubuntu, do they phone you when it has been shipped?
[01:29] <thiebaude> rovin,no
[01:29] <htmljunkie> Mac you in here?
[01:29] <josh||> but you can configure a directory under your home dir that tex will search for classes
[01:29] <Rovin> ok
[01:29] <thiebaude> rovin, i got my 8.10 cd on order
[01:29] <cicero> so i would say my wireless card works, but i can't get my network to connect
[01:29] <Rovin> why do they need Phone?
[01:29] <mouseboyx> /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ should be correct directory gaten
[01:29] <thiebaude> rovin, i dont know
[01:29] <josh||> i keep mine under ~/texmf
[01:30] <Rovin> oh well,I will order
[01:30] <Rovin> :)
[01:30] <cicero> i am sure there is a tool that scans for available networks and lets me connect, if i can't it gives me some error i can work with
[01:30] <Ridd1er> alright is anyone familiar with LIRC at all?
[01:30] <gm04030276> Woody86: it does say visio .vdx in the open dialog
[01:30] <thiebaude> !lirc
[01:30] <Aeonis_> Hey everyone.  I'm trying to figure out how to isntall VMServer 2.0 on 8.04.  How do I do that?
[01:31] <cicero> it looks like i am using nm-applet 0.6.6 -- this was installed by default
[01:31] <Exaltia> !NetworkManager
[01:31] <SpinachHead> sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[01:31] <Exaltia> !wicd
[01:31] <Woody86> gm04030276 -  ok, cause I have an online class that says I need to download Visio, but I have no idea any other kind of requirements
[01:31] <Aeonis_> !dudes
[01:31] <LjL> !botabuse
[01:31] <Aeonis_> LOL...sorry.
[01:31] <Ridd1er> ROFl
[01:31] <thiebaude> haha
[01:32] <Jordan_U> cicero: What problem are you having with network-manager?
[01:32] <Aeonis_> Okay...serious face now.  I'm having problems installing VMWare Server 2.0.
[01:32] <cicero> Jordan - it looks like i am using nm-applet -- is that the same as network manager?
[01:32] <Aeonis_> I don't know how to do it.  I figured it'd be something like sudo apt-get vmware server 2.0 or something like that, but I don't even know where this pulls from so I can find it.
[01:32] <gm04030276> Woody86: well it seems to support visio files but I haven't had any experience opening visio files with it.
[01:33] <vote_4_Obama> hey guys, anyone here good with wifi card issues?
[01:33] <SpinachHead> sort of...
[01:33] <vote_4_Obama> atheros cards?
[01:33] <Woody86> gm04030276 -  ok, is there anything in OpenOffice.org that would be compatible?
[01:33] <cicero> vote_4_Obama, yes I do have that card
[01:33] <danbh_intrepid> vote_4_Obama: try intrepid
[01:34] <Aeonis_> When you use "sudo apt-get", where does that pull from?
[01:34] <vote_4_Obama> intrepid?
[01:34] <vote_4_Obama> oh boy
[01:34] <danbh_intrepid> !intrepid | vote_4_Obama
[01:34] <GuZ> ello there open sourcers!
[01:34] <mouseboyx> Aeonis_, configured repositories in sources.list
[01:34] <cicero> Jordan_U, i don't know how to use/find network-manager . . .
[01:34] <vote_4_Obama> yeah....i'l wait till the bugs are sorted
[01:34] <cicero> I'm trying to install it now
[01:34] <Jordan_U> cicero: It should be in the top right of your screen
[01:35] <Aeonis> mouseboyx: Where do I find that?
[01:35] <thiebaude> i didn't notice any bugs in 8.10
[01:35] <mouseboyx> /etc/apt/sources.list i believe.
[01:35] <Jordan_U> cicero: It's a pannel applet that looks like two computers
[01:35] <SpinachHead> obama are you using ndiswrapper?
[01:35] <GuZ> If I wanted to ask a question on the stable versino thats bee around for a while, am I in the right channel?
[01:35] <thiebaude> guz:the ubuntu 8.04 channel
[01:35] <cicero> Jordan_U, all I get is the applet --  and that is not helping me.  It connects to the wired connection just fine but it's not scanning or finding my local network at all
[01:35] <Jordan_U> GuZ: Yes
[01:36] <cicero> all disconnect the wired network right now
[01:36] <SpinachHead> http://www.linuxfornewbies.org/forum/index.php/topic,3.0.html this tutorial fixed my wifi problems
[01:36] <cicero> I'll  disconnect
[01:36] <GuZ> Okay, cool, I was wondering if there was a way to use Windows XP simple network bridging via WINE
[01:36] <gm04030276> Woody86: there is OO drawing but I don't know if its visio compatable. Try googleing for visio openoffice or searching the OOo website
[01:37] <Woody86> gm04030276 -  ok, thanks for the help :)
[01:37] <cicero> so I disconnect and I get an !  Under the box in the top
[01:37] <cicero> decides that I absolutely get no error at all.  If I place the mouse over that box the only error I get is "no network connection"
[01:38] <cicero> if a single click on that box I get to three options: 1 | connect to other wireless networks, (2) create new wireless network or (3) manual configuration
[01:38] <Jordan_U> cicero: What wireless card do you have ( the exact chipset if you know it ) ?
[01:38] <cicero> I have tried around six or seven times to create a new wireless network I've chosen my security settings and entered my security key.  However this has had no effect
[01:38] <cicero> Jordan_U, give me just a second a look that up
[01:38] <Aeonis> mouseboyx: How do I find what server/site it's connecting to?
[01:39] <Jordan_U> cicero: It should list available networks, you don't want to create a new wireless network
[01:39] <mouseboyx> you can see some stuff in system > admin > software sourcers
[01:39] <cicero> interesting, when I type ifconfig I don't see the interface which used to be there which was something like ra0
[01:39] <Jordan_U> cicero: Ugh, you have a ralink card then
[01:39] <cicero> what is the other command that I can type to find out my exact hardware details something like lspci
[01:39] <Aeonis> mouseboyx: I see some for "Third-Party" software, but they're not checked in.  I'm looking to see what the name of VMWare Server 2.0 is so I can sudo apt-get install it.
[01:39] <cicero> that is correct
[01:39] <cicero> ralink on the eeepc 1000h
[01:40] <craigthegreat> can someone help me boot from cd w/ no live disc?
[01:40] <Vantrax> Aeonis VMWare server is a costed item
[01:40] <cicero> the problem is that this has been working very well and is just now that I can't get a connection
[01:40] <Jordan_U> cicero: Oh, are you using eeeubuntu?
[01:40] <cicero> yes I am
[01:40] <Aeonis> There is a free version Vantrax.
[01:40] <Aeonis> And I have a Key I can use for the free version.
[01:40] <cicero> it seems to be working pretty well, except for this wireless problem
[01:40] <mouseboyx> Aeonis, may i suggest virtual box over vmware, it is much more stable and in the default repositories.
[01:40] <Vantrax> Aeonis i didnt think it was in the repos
[01:40] <Jordan_U> cicero: Surprising that it isn't working then
[01:41] <Vantrax> Aeonis:  Just pull it down from www.vmware.com
[01:41] <cicero> I have found some places online that recommend downloading the driver but according to the folks in the eeepc room the driver should be working inside the specific distro that I am using
[01:41] <Aeonis> I would agree, but the guy I'm getting training with uses VMServer 2.0 and said it's very stable and I want to learn it as much as possible before I start learning crap on my own.
[01:41] <xomp> mouseboyx, is it logical to install windows xp on virtual box to play games? :)
[01:41] <cicero> and since it was working I would hate to install a driver that could cause potential problems
[01:41] <cicero> what I wish I could do is actually troubleshoot this problem but it doesn't seem like the network manager is giving me any options like that
[01:41] <mouseboyx> xomp, no
[01:41] <usser> Aeonis, i'd vote for vmware, server 2.0 is awesome
[01:41] <Aeonis> I tried Vantrax, but the RPM file wouldn't install and the tar.gx??? wouldn't install either.  I figure I'm doing it wrong.
[01:41] <Vantrax> use the .bundle
[01:42] <Aeonis> do you have a link on how you installed it usser?
[01:42] <usser> Aeonis, are u using hardy?
[01:42] <xomp> mouseboyx, oh :( ok, was hoping to get rid of this dual boot but wine no worky with Team Fortress 2 and Silent Hill 3 on my nice ATI card :(
[01:42] <Vantrax> Aeonis use the .bunble file
[01:42] <Jordan_U> cicero: Have you changed anything since it was working?
[01:42] <Vantrax> .bundle
[01:42] <mouseboyx> yeah, i just recently got a free 8800 GTX from my friend ! xomp
[01:42] <cicero> I've been installing software but I haven't changed anything in the wireless settings
[01:42] <Aeonis> Yes usser.  8.04 :D
[01:43] <cicero> I've installed several updates, etc.
[01:43] <cicero>  also have installed Matlab and the Java runtime engine
[01:43] <Jordan_U> cicero: Any kernel updates?
[01:43] <usser> Aeonis, oh so head to vmware.com create your free account download vmware 2.0 server for linux tar.gz file
[01:43] <xomp> mouseboyx, cool, word on the street is in 5-10 years time ATI will be well supported in linux :) But damn, that's a long time to keep windows on yah drive for gaming purposes :P
[01:43] <cicero> no, not that I know of
[01:44] <Aeonis> Wait...usser, I have done that...would it still be stored on my pc after a reboot in the temp file?
[01:44] <GuZ> I'm having serious trouble making a network bridge to use my laptops wifi access with my 360s, I've googled the problem and no fix has worked
[01:44] <usser> Aeonis, where did u save it?
[01:44] <saxonjf> I am using an Nvidia card, what's the likelihood of losing all video if I upgrade to the RC?
[01:44] <cabrioleur> xomp, Linux is not the best gaming platform.
[01:44] <Aeonis> I can't remember, I just click  the thing in FF and let it go to default.
[01:44] <mouseboyx> xomp, i also got an ati card that worked fairly well from him, it was 2600XT
[01:44] <danbh_intrepid> saxonjf: is it a newish card? or oldish?
[01:44] <usser> Aeonis, take a look on your desktop, firefox usually saves there
[01:45] <ben> need help with a wireless connect
[01:45] <xomp> cabrioleur, I know, but I've seen numerous videos of Team Fortress 2 on ubuntu but they fail to mention that if you have an ATI card your SOL big time :(
[01:45] <saxonjf> Kind of oldish
[01:45] <cabrioleur> saxonjf, square root of i.
[01:45] <craigthegreat> can someone help on a boot issue
[01:45] <cabrioleur> craigthegreat, I'm sure somebody can.
[01:45] <Aeonis> It's not there usser.  I'll re-download it.  What usually is in the /tmp folder?
[01:45] <cicero> Jordan_U, one thing that definitely might affect this is I loaded an application that is supposed to take inputs from the eee hotkeys, perhaps that is disabling my wireless
[01:46] <saxonjf> cab, that's no answer.
[01:46] <GuZ> ohshit, another eee ubuntu user
[01:46] <nihi> GuZ, have you tried http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=895310 ?
[01:46] <tritium> language, please, GuZ
[01:46] <craigthegreat> i need to boot off cd but i cant get the bios to come up
[01:46] <craigthegreat> using grub
[01:46] <usser> Aeonis, temp files, it might be there as well
[01:46] <writing> How do you set an environment variable
[01:46] <GuZ> sorry, tritium
[01:46] <writing> with export?
[01:46] <xomp> what is "eee"?
[01:46] <xomp> other than 3 e's?
[01:46] <cabrioleur> saxonjf, nobody can tell until you try. It's up to the model, ram, connection, motherboard and number of bugs implemented in current code :-)
[01:47] <GuZ> the EEE laptop by asus
[01:47] <Aeonis> What is "seahorse-B9DPBr"
[01:47] <cabrioleur> eee is awesome for servers. It's quiet, set and forget.
[01:47] <saxonjf> I've read that there's no driver for Nvidia drivers in the beta for 8.10, and that concerns me.
[01:48] <cicero> GuZ, does this distribution cause a lot of problems?
[01:48] <Jordan_U> writing: You export the variable with export, you set it with variable_name="whatever" ( exporting it makes it available to child processes, i.e. any program you run from that shell )
[01:48] <cabrioleur> saxonjf, nvidia website always has the drivers.
[01:48] <GuZ> i'm running xubuntu on my eee 900 and its been fine, im just having trouble with an ubuntu problem in general
[01:48] <ben> can some one help m I have a pci wireless card and it's slow 70kb/s or less
[01:48] <animefanfive> How can I get the extra buttons (email, home, search) to work?
[01:49] <cicero> Jordan_U, so I have enabled wireless within the eee eee-control-tray. It might have been disabled. It currently tried to find an IP after I put in the wpa key, but now it looks like that has failed and I'm getting the same error which is "no network connection"
[01:49] <cabrioleur> animefanfive, system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts
[01:49] <GuZ> cicero, my eee worked out of the box with xubuntu/ubuntu
[01:49] <Vantrax> ben you have windoes installed too?
[01:49] <ben>  no
[01:50] <animefanfive> I tried that and when it goes to the "New accelerator" phase it will pick up any key except those three.
[01:50] <Vantrax> does it run as slow off the CD?
[01:50] <cicero> so currently I've enabled wireless and the network manager applet is disappeared when I type ifconfig I still do not see the ra0 interface
[01:50] <Vantrax> livecd
[01:50] <dac_> what is Ubuntu desk edition?
[01:50] <cabrioleur> animefanfive, your keyboard is misconfigured.
[01:50] <dac_> 8.04
[01:50] <cicero> it's like network manager has crashed and I can't find the binary to started up again
[01:50] <cabrioleur> animefanfive, go to keyboard setup and pick different model.
[01:50] <ben> but I have hade it in a old windows 2000
[01:51] <ben> 8.04
[01:51] <animefanfive> cabrioleur: Probably I just hooked a new one up. Didn't even think of that so I will try.
[01:51] <cicero> oh it looks like I've found that it is simply networkmanager ( I had a dash in there)
[01:51] <cabrioleur> ceil420, nm-applet
[01:51] <dac_> Ubuntu *.04...
[01:51] <Jordan_U> cicero: nm-applet, but network-manager doesn't actually create the interfaces so if you don't see it in iwconfig it won't work in network-manager
[01:51] <dac_> Ubuntu8.04
[01:51] <MTecknology> Vantrax: does what run slow off the live cd? Ubuntu? Yes - it loads and expands what it needs from the cd into ram on a need basis... It's become much better though
[01:51] <cicero> oh wait, i spoke incorrectly networkmanager didn't work either i'll try nm-applet
[01:52] <Bashew_> Sorry about that, but I've got an issue with the 8.10 Beta, as well as all of the 8.10 Alphas
[01:52] <Vantrax> lol MTecknology was talkin to ben about his wireless nic
[01:52] <MTecknology> Vantrax: aight - sorry
[01:53] <MTecknology> Vantrax: I've just seen that question a lot
[01:53] <Vantrax> ben: so its not the signal or the hardware?
[01:53] <dac_> What is Ubuntu 8.04 desk edition???
[01:53] <cicero> Jordan_U,  is there any way that you know of to try to bring that particular interface back up?
[01:53] <Vantrax> MTecknology:  no kidding, me too
[01:53] <Godstrong> hey
[01:53] <ben> no it is ubuntu is installed to the hard drive
[01:53] <darkhamm> hey people, i've an error occurred when i refresh synaptic... how can i solve this?^
[01:53] <cabrioleur> dec_, you mean desktop?
[01:53] <Bashew_> So, would this be the room to talk about an issue with Ubuntu 8.10? Or could someone point me in the right direction... I'm sorry, but I'm stuck on irssi for the time being, and /list shows tooooo many channels for me to hunt down.
[01:53] <Jordan_U> cicero: Find out what kernel module creates it and load it with modprobe. Are you using ubuntu-eee 8.04.1 ?
[01:53] <cabrioleur> darkhamm, what's the error?
[01:53] <Bashew_> At least with the Beta
[01:54] <Vantrax> Bashew_, try ubuntu-1
[01:54] <Bashew_> Thanks
[01:54] <JakeMon> is there a ncurses/gui program for managing my apache sites on the cli?
[01:54] <cabrioleur> JakeMon, if I was a sarcastic person I would say vim.
[01:54] <cicero> Jordan_U, yes i am
[01:55] <GuZ> Whenever I try to run Firestarter I get a message ath0 device is not ready, anyone know why that happens?
[01:55] <Wapples> is there a way to resize a partition while accessing it?
[01:55] <Aeonis> okay, usser it's downloading now.
[01:55] <cabrioleur> Wapples, no.
[01:55] <cicero> Jordan_U,  wait how I find out which version I'm runningI simply typed in uname -a, and for me that produced the kernel number which was 2.6.24-21
[01:55] <cicero> -eeepc
[01:55] <JakeMon> cabrioleur: lol
[01:55] <Efrem_S> Excuse Me for going off-topic. I am working on my Midterm for c++ due Monday.......Where can I get help with programming c++ on ubuntu using MonoDevelop
[01:55] <Wapples> it was a good answer
[01:56] <Wapples> i didint think so
[01:56] <Wapples> i just didint want to have to burn gparted again
[01:56] <cicero> Jordan_U, how I find out which kernel module I need to reload that particular driver?
[01:56] <usser> Aeonis, cool
[01:56] <Jordan_U> cicero: I don't use ubuntu eee myself, Does it have ubuntu netboot remix or a more standard desktop?
[01:57] <cicero> know I'm currently working with the net book remix
[01:57] <GuZ> ubuntu eee was awful
[01:57] <GuZ> just go with regular ubunut
[01:57] <KenHirai> why does linux's sound turn into shit
[01:57] <Aeonis> when it's done usser, I may have to bug you again.  I'm trying to learn security.
[01:57] <Aeonis> gots to have this installed.
[01:57] <thiebaude> !language
[01:57] <htmljunkie> Ubuntu hasn't been made for EEE PC
[01:57] <Jordan_U> GuZ: What's horrible about it out of curiosity?
[01:57] <cabrioleur> Efrem_S, as for monodev you can ask in #mono, as for c++, you can ask in #c++
[01:57] <Tokorona> There's a ubunutu eee kernal at array.org
[01:57] <usser> Aeonis, cool so open terminal
[01:57] <joanki123> can anyone tell me the command to reset audio?
[01:57] <Tokorona> It's probably a better choice.
[01:58] <joanki123> my sound's not workin
[01:58] <usser> Aeonis, where did u save it?
[01:58] <cicero>  it doesn't really matter I'm simply trying to get wireless functionality working from a command prompt and I don't think the particular front end on the distribution makes a big difference here
[01:58] <Efrem_S> cabrioleur:  Thank You
[01:58] <GuZ> Jordan_U, the default maximizer, the awful and resource eating launcher mostly
[01:58] <Aeonis> it's still going usser...only 7% done.
[01:58] <htmljunkie> why is ubuntu EEE so awful?
[01:58] <Aeonis> oh jeez!  It ssays 45 minutes remaining...taking forever!!!
[01:58] <bruenig> GuZ: should use arch eee, that's where it's at
[01:58] <cabrioleur> htmljunkie, what do you mean?
[01:58] <Jordan_U> cicero: No, but it tells me if you are using 8.04 or 8.04.1 ( only 8.04.1 comes with netbook remix )
[01:58] <htmljunkie> GuZ said ubuntu eee is awefuk
[01:58] <l7> i thought the eee pc was pretty good
[01:58] <GuZ> dunno what that is,  bruenig, currently using just regular xubuntu
[01:58] <htmljunkie> awful
[01:58] <joanki123> can anyone tell me the command to reset audio?
[01:58] <cabrioleur> There is 8.04.1? Wow.
[01:58] <htmljunkie> he didn't explain why
[01:58] <Tokorona> http://www.array.org/ubuntu/
[01:59] <Tokorona> er.
[01:59] <Tokorona> http://www.array.org/ubuntu/  <- has an optimized kernal
[01:59] <bruenig> GuZ: arch is a distro, it uses the linux kernel and gnu tools
[01:59] <Tokorona> Apparetly for use with 8.04
[01:59] <Tokorona> Not sure how useful it is though
[01:59] <wartalker> how to set ubuntu to support touchpad?
[01:59] <dac_> No   On the CD jacket, ithas "Ubuntu8.04.1 LTS desktop edition",why is better
[01:59] <writing> what is the java sdk called in linux?
[01:59] <GuZ> what makes it better than my current xubuntu
[01:59] <cabrioleur> joanki123, are you using alsa or pulseaudio?
[01:59] <animefanfive> I switched my keyboard layout to Dell (It's only the basic one) and it still won't pick up the extra keys.
[01:59] <writing> I want to install java
[01:59] <cicero> okay so perhaps at this point I'm thinking that I need to simply shut down the PC?
[01:59] <joanki123> um... both but let me check
[01:59] <cabrioleur> writing, java sdk
[01:59] <bruenig> Tokorona: compile your own if you want the most possible optimized kernel
[01:59] <writing> how do I install it in ubuntu
[02:00] <Aeonis> hey, what's the main diff between ubuntu, kubuntu, and xubuntu?
[02:00] <joanki123> cabrioleur, alsa
[02:00] <Vantrax> writing:  you know about apt get?
[02:00] <writing> yes, but I don't know how to query it
[02:00] <Tokorona> burenig: I just want something that would... well, get wireless support working for now. I can recompile it later. :/
[02:00] <l7> ubuntu = gnome, kubuntu = kds, xubuntu = xfce
[02:00] <htmljunkie> Tokorona: Do you need ubuntu eee edition instaleld before installing that?
[02:00] <Tokorona> No.
[02:00] <Jordan_U> writing: apt-cache search, or if you prefer a gui use synaptic
[02:00] <cicero> Jordan_U, so any idea on how I could try to bring this interface up again or should I shut down the computer and restarts try to get that working
[02:01] <GuZ> xfce <3
[02:01] <Aeonis> xfce?  I've not seen this yet.....same for KDS...
[02:01] <Tokorona> Just 8.04
[02:01] <joanki123> cabrioleur, you there still?
[02:01] <joanki123> I usee alsa
[02:01] <l7> Aeonis: xfce uses less resources
[02:01] <GuZ> so does anyone know why Firestarter is telling me that my ath0 device isnt ready whenever i try to run it?
[02:01] <cicero> Jordan_U, so I'm going to reboot
[02:01] <Aeonis> better than gnome and kde l7?
[02:01] <Kr0ntab> Aeonis: he meant KDE
[02:01] <Aeonis> ahhh.
[02:02] <cicero> and if this doesn't work, I'm simply going to have to boot back into Windows because I have some important work of getting it done for tomorrow and this operating system just isn't reliable enough for me
[02:02] <cicero> or  I'm not smart enough to get it working correctly . . .
[02:02] <wartalker> how to install touchpad driver?
[02:02] <cabrioleur> joanki123, sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[02:02] <Aeonis> Is xfce nice on the visual end, or is it rather bland?
[02:02] <htmljunkie> EEE PC's are a rip to me, they just keep updating them so you waste all that money on one and they come out with one like a month or two later lol
[02:02] <joanki123> thank you!!!!!
[02:02] <cicero> now this looks like it will even reboot, I am getting the error CIFS VFS: server not responding, no response for cmd 50 mid 32165
[02:03] <Aeonis> I don't mind the bland, but when the lady uses it, I'd like for her to be happy.
[02:03] <cabrioleur> Aeonis, it is nice but simplistic. I would say it's pretty and modern.
[02:03] <Aeonis> nice!
[02:03] <htmljunkie> Aeonis XFCE is like using windows 2k basically
[02:03] <htmljunkie> with the interface look
[02:03] <cabrioleur> htmljunkie, whaaaaat?
[02:03] <htmljunkie> :)
[02:03] <Vantrax> thats a good analogy
[02:03] <htmljunkie> I prefer gnome
[02:04] <Vantrax> me too:P
[02:04] <Jordan_U> htmljunkie: I disagree vehemently on that
[02:04] <htmljunkie> lol
[02:04] <Vantrax> Gnome + Compiz + Emerald + AWN:P
[02:04] <cabrioleur> I don't think the concept behind XFce has anything to do with Windows UI.
[02:04] <LjL> !offtopic
[02:04] <htmljunkie> XFCE has no real eyecandy to it
[02:04] <Aeonis> scary comparison htmljunkie ...  I'm moving away from Windows.
[02:04] <LjL> look, i don't know what's up tonight... BUT we have a very nice channel, #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:04] <htmljunkie> Aeonis get the new KDE or gnome
[02:04] <htmljunkie> you'll be happy
[02:04] <LjL> THIS channel is for support, on the other hand
[02:04] <Aeonis> htmljunkie: I'm on Ubuntu 8.04.    I want this to download a little faster...
[02:05] <htmljunkie> it was more or less a  comparison with the look of 2k IN the sense that the UI isn't eyecandy
[02:05] <htmljunkie> that's all
[02:05] <l7> how do the various linux distros for the eeepc stack up?
[02:05] <gregsparc> hi all....I've never seen this happen before. I'm trying out the livecd of Hardy on a new PC, and resolution looks great, but my LCD monitor keeps blinking off and back on at irregular intervals. The monitor works fine with other PCs. Anybody know anything?
[02:05] <Aeonis> unles syou guys know a better way.  Last time, it took about 8 minutes.  Now it's taking about 50
[02:06] <PassionFRUI7E> Problem with installing ubuntu8.04.  I click one of the top two options, locks for 4 seconds with HDD sounds, then I get back control.
[02:06] <l7> there's this ubuntu version somewhere and what looks like an older xubuntu
[02:06] <cicero> Jordan_U, so I've rebooted the computer and I have my ra0 interface backup it says that it's currently waiting on the network key and the network manager applet it shows that my network has 100% signal strength, but it is not giving me the opportunity to enter or change or view any processes in order to troubleshoot this
[02:06] <LjL> l7: better off asking in #eeepc
[02:06] <PassionFRUI7E> The console has a bunch of I/O errors too when the console pops up, if ever.
[02:06] <l7> LjL: k thanks
[02:06] <PassionFRUI7E> I'm trying the 32 bit version on 64 now anyway.
[02:07] <cicero> one of the things that I'd like about this application is that it would give me some information to troubleshoot with.  That has traditionally been one of the strong things that I've liked about Linux is that it lease provides the information that I can work with but this network manager gives me absolutely nothing except a spinning icon that says waiting for the network key
[02:07] <Chickengeorge> hi there, Xubuntu is very good!!! super tiptop
[02:07]  * GuZ highfives Chickengeorge
[02:07] <case^> w00t
[02:07] <GuZ> Go Xubuntu!
[02:07] <GuZ> Although I still cant get Firestarter working :(
[02:07] <GuZ> and thus cant connect to Xbox Lie
[02:07] <GuZ> Live
[02:08] <cicero> is there anything I can do while waiting for the network key for the wireless network?  Is there any tool that I can install it would give me some ability to troubleshoot wireless or is it something that simply works or it doesn't?
[02:08] <GuZ> Is anyone decent with firestarter?
[02:08] <cicero> what is firestarter?
[02:09] <LjL> a firewall
[02:09] <danbh_intrepid> GuZ: why do you need firestarter?  Why not just go without a firewall?
[02:09] <dulak> it's a graphical front end to iptables
[02:09] <GuZ> Its a type of firewall, but its also used to make a bridge
[02:09] <Jordan_U> cicero: If you want to see what actions are being taken by the wireless card you can use iwevent, not sure if that will be of any help though
[02:09] <eva> it's a firewall
[02:09] <danbh_intrepid> ah, I see
[02:09] <GuZ> danbh_intrepid, because I read I could use it as a bridge for my 360
[02:09] <JohnRobert> does anyone know how to convert cells whos values are the output of a function to 'static' cells in gnumeric?
[02:09] <GuZ> But have no idea how to do any of it :(
[02:09] <PassionFRUI7E> Can you burn the ubuntu8.04live iso to advd and it work?
[02:09] <cicero> Jordan_U, yes I need something that is in the sweet spot of providing information that would help me troubleshoot but not dumping a bunch of binary data or erp data on me
[02:10] <Jordan_U> PassionFRUI7E: Yes, there are also DVD images
[02:10] <LjL> cicero, tried "nm-tool" perhaps?
[02:10] <PassionFRUI7E> This is my fifth burn of an 8.04 and none have worked...
[02:10] <cicero> I just try to run that but it can't find the executable and it also can't find a package to install nm-tool
[02:11] <cicero> okay I got a running it seems that everything is correct except that it says there is both WEP, WPA AND WPA2 (I only have wpa)
[02:11] <cabrioleur> danbh_intrepid, going without a firewall is a security risk. Proper security measures will result in safer Linux environment.
[02:11] <cicero> and of course I have no IP address
[02:12] <Jordan_U> cicero: I believe that list just means that they are supported
[02:12] <cicero> so that application seems to just provide information on my current connection status and not helpful information on how to establish a connection which currently does not exist
[02:12] <xomp> anyone know why when I delete a message from Evolution (using my Gmail account) it doesn't delete the copy from Gmail? I have "When messages are accessed with POP delete Gmail's copy" set in Gmail.
[02:12] <cicero> Jordan_U, okay got it is there anything else I can do order I simply decided to give up on this
[02:12] <cabrioleur> PassionFRUI7E, have you tried to add any kernel options during startup?
[02:12] <cicero> and consider that this is only a distribution that I can work with a wired connection and that hopefully someday someone will develop a network tool that allows connectivity to wireless networks for linux
[02:12] <PassionFRUI7E> No I have not.  Msg me, brb 2 min.
[02:12] <cicero> with my particular wireless card
[02:13] <Jordan_U> cicero: You can try using iwconfig to setup the network, but if you need to get something done soon I would give up now honestly :(
[02:14] <LjL> cicero, surely if the card isn't recognized in the first place, n-m will do naught about it
[02:14] <cicero> Jordan_U, got it thanks for your advice -- I'll try back in a month or two and see if someone is fixed this problem. LjL, the card is currently recognized that there's no way it can connect to my network, or give me any information to troubleshoot with and why the network connection is not being established
[02:15] <riegersn> how can i format my drive to ntfs ?
[02:15] <LjL> cicero, get rid of n-m and try to configure it manually is my advice
[02:15] <cicero> thanks everyone for your help, now to get to work ( unfortunately on Windows :<)
[02:15] <LjL> riegersn: man mkfs.ntfs
[02:16] <Failtacular> ?
[02:17] <Failtacular> ??
[02:17] <Failtacular> ???????????????//
[02:17] <Failtacular> Hello?
[02:17] <cabrioleur> Yes?
[02:18] <Failtacular> soory
[02:18] <Failtacular> *sorry
[02:18] <xomp> why does removing evolution-data-server-common require the removal of ubuntu-desktop, gnome-applets etc.? I would be left with nothing if I were to remove evolution it seems >:(
[02:18] <Failtacular> Never been in a chat room before
[02:18] <cabrioleur> xomp, inter-dependencies :-D
[02:18] <Failtacular> let alone Ubuntu
[02:18] <xomp> cabrioleur, nice, so you're restricted from downsizing your footprint in ubuntu because of this :(
[02:19] <cabrioleur> xomp, yes.
[02:19] <xomp> linux for human beings amirite? lmao
[02:19] <cabrioleur> Failtacular, if you want to chat about Linux, and not looking for help, you are welcome to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:20] <cabrioleur> xomp, as it says, it's for human beings, not geeks! ;-)
[02:20] <dgs> is ubuntu 8.10 rc only available as a dvd iso? i can't see a cd image on the ubuntu site...
[02:20] <GuZ> should i give up my firestarter problem in here D:
[02:21] <xomp> cabrioleur, I find it unrealistic to have the OS uninstall (basically) just from removing the email software lol, who made that decision? hah
[02:21] <J-_> Does anyone use ddclient with afraid.org, or any other IP update utility with afraid.org services? I need some help.
[02:21] <cabrioleur> xomp, it's a discussion for #ubuntu-offtopic or other channel. If I say what I think here, they will burn me on stake and kidnap my dog.
[02:21] <veryangryman> why this find: find . -name *.sh in directory /usr/bin WORKS! However in /home/me/tmp it says: find: paths must precede expression
[02:22] <kevsthabest> Hey guys, anyone ever had an issue with resizing a vista formated NTFS drive using gparted? it wont show the free space whatsoever :S
[02:23] <cabrioleur> kevsthabest, yes, if your ntfs partition is damaged. You need to fix it with ntfsfix or windows based software.
[02:23] <Failtacular> *Ahem*
[02:23] <kevsthabest> cabrioleur: thank you, i will give ntfsfix a try
[02:23] <Rave1_> dgs http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.10/
[02:23] <Efrem_S> cabrioleur:  There is alsothe Channel:  ##C++ for direct c++ help.....again thanks....A good friend of mine opened my eyes up to the wonderful world of linux.  I am new but learning alot :)
[02:24] <T_Davis> I am attempting to install hardy on an older thinkpad iseries, the installer boots, partitioner hangs at 33%, searched google, no joy
[02:24] <T_Davis> help?
[02:24] <T_Davis> using the acpi=off and noapic switches already
[02:24] <threethirty> T_Davis: did you make sure that the image was bured correctly
[02:24] <grendal_prime> grrrrrrrrrrr
[02:24] <grendal_prime> compiz in kde is killing me
[02:24] <cabrioleur> Efrem_S, welcome on board, mate :-)
[02:25] <grendal_prime> everything seems to be working ok..accept i cant adjust it in any way.
[02:25] <T_Davis> yes, md5 checks, check cd works, installs fine on other machines
[02:25] <threethirty> T_Davis: then i have no idea sorry
[02:25] <T_Davis> its acting like its hunting the floppy drive
[02:25] <dgs> Rave1_: cheers =) for some reason google sent me to http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/8.10/rc/ which only had the dvds. dowloading now =)
[02:25] <T_Davis> is there a switch something like nofloppy?
[02:26] <runman> anyone know when the new openoffice 3.0 will make it into the repos?
[02:26] <Efrem_S> cabrioleur:  Thank you and it is an Honor to be aboard....P.S:  My friend is practically a Guru....He is one of the best at Ubuntu
[02:26] <vigilant> hi all
[02:26] <vigilant> many people in here! :)
[02:26] <threethirty> runman: i should be in the interpid repos
[02:26] <runman> i'm running interpid but still 2.4.1??
[02:27] <threethirty> runman: wow, that is crazy... have you check to see if its on getdeb.net?
[02:27] <cabrioleur> T_Davis, you can turn it off in BIOS. I recommend several additional options for installation: noapic, nolapic, pnpbios=off, and the ones you had before.
[02:28] <runman> i'm not using proposed or backports repos but the others
[02:28] <vigilant> Does ubuntu support wireless cards well?
[02:28] <PassionFRUI7E> cabrioleur:  Have you ever heard of nothing happening for 4 seconds after selecting one of the installation options?
[02:28] <T_Davis> some
[02:28] <_2> how hard is it to convert my ubuntu router from all static to a dhcp server ?
[02:28] <cabrioleur> PassionFRUI7E, yes, it's normal. Something does happens, just hidden.
[02:29] <PassionFRUI7E> Then its like you never clcked anything, back to selecting options.  I've never gotten to the desktop.
[02:29] <PassionFRUI7E> Then how I run linux like the tutorals?
[02:29] <PassionFRUI7E> Sorry, half-broken "i" key.
[02:29] <jamesish> About to dist-upgrade to Intrepid. Wish me luck.
[02:29] <PassionFRUI7E> GLHF.
[02:29] <nkei0> heya everyone, anyone know how to fix the freezing issue when acpi is on?
[02:30] <[ipc]-michael> is intreped ready?
[02:30] <[ipc]-michael> ill dist upgrade with you...
[02:30] <PassionFRUI7E> I've been trying for hours to install ubuntu8.04...
[02:30] <jamesish> Intrepid's seven days away. I always upgrade a few days early to beat the hammering on the server.
[02:30] <jamesish> Servers.
[02:30] <nkei0> PassionFRUI7E: I'm willing to bet you're having the same issue with acpi
[02:30] <[ipc]-michael> so you're installing beta?
[02:30] <jamesish> Totally.
[02:30] <PassionFRUI7E> ACPI?
[02:31] <[ipc]-michael> hmmm
[02:31] <jamesish> But it's beta that's only 7 days away from being production quality. There's not much will happen between now and then.
[02:31] <[ipc]-michael> ive got proposed updates in my repos, i supposed im pretty close anyway
[02:31] <cabrioleur> PassionFRUI7E, I would suggest multiple options for kernel during startup: noapic  acpi=off nolapic pnpbios=off
[02:31] <nkei0> PassionFRUI7E: Yeah, you can get some things done during install and then all of a sudden everything freezes?  You can still move the cursor but you can't do anything with it?
[02:31] <PassionFRUI7E> KK.  Will try.
[02:31] <PassionFRUI7E> Yes.  I've never been able to do anything but select boot from HD.
[02:32] <nkei0> PassionFRUI7E: to add to what cabrioleur said, i have to use acpi=off, noapic, nolapic, and edd=on to not freeze
[02:32] <PassionFRUI7E> FYI I have 64 bit 2x2.0 hp pavilon dv7-1130us 4gigs
[02:32] <PassionFRUI7E> kk
[02:32] <PassionFRUI7E> Thanks so much.
[02:32] <T_Davis> whats edd?
[02:32] <nkei0> PassionFRUI7E: Are you installing from a livecd?
[02:32] <threethirty> does anyone know where i can download ubotu for use on my own channel?
[02:32] <PassionFRUI7E> home premium
[02:32] <PassionFRUI7E> live, yes.
[02:33] <PassionFRUI7E> I have an empty 60 gig thats unpartitioned
[02:33] <nkei0> PassionFRUI7E: When you boot from the cd and it has all of the options press F6 and select all the options and press escape and then type them into the command line shown
[02:33] <cabrioleur> T_Davis, enhanced disk drive support
[02:33] <T_Davis> hurm, may help me
[02:33] <PassionFRUI7E> Hm?  Okay?  nkei0
[02:33] <PassionFRUI7E> Isn't there more though to actually install it?
[02:33] <PassionFRUI7E> I have zero linux experience...
[02:34] <nkei0> Yeah, I mean when you select those options it shouldn't freeze during the install
[02:34] <PassionFRUI7E> KK.
[02:34] <PassionFRUI7E> Then select the top install option?  or the second?
[02:34] <LightTitan> I just want to be able to play rented DVD's in my Linux... please help. Is there a one-in-all codec package that is easy to load?
[02:34] <PassionFRUI7E> I'm keeping vista.
[02:34] <T_Davis> I vaguely remember an alternative kernel I had to use on my tp770, but I dont remember what it was
[02:34] <nkei0> LightTitan: VLC
[02:35] <LightTitan> I have that installed, it's not playing the DVD
[02:35] <T_Davis> ancient old thing
[02:35] <nkei0> PassionFRUI7E: I've never tried the 64 bit, what are the two options?
[02:35] <PassionFRUI7E> I cant remember..Top one is like install without touching hd and second is normal
[02:35] <cabrioleur> PassionFRUI7E, doesn't metter at this point, I always use the top one.
[02:35] <PassionFRUI7E> k.
[02:35] <nkei0> LightTitan: You could also try classic media player, it can pretty much play anything.
[02:36] <PassionFRUI7E> Any way to install without burning a cd?
[02:36] <nkei0> PassionFRUI7E: the one without touching the HD is just a trial to use it without affecting anything, to actually install it you have to put it on the HD
[02:36] <PassionFRUI7E> I just burnt my last one and need to hit the store tomorrow lol...
[02:36] <cabrioleur> LightTitan, you need to install libdvdcss2
[02:36] <PassionFRUI7E> K.
[02:36] <nkei0> PassionFRUI7E: You can boot from a USB stick.
[02:36] <veryangryman> why this find: find . -name *.sh in directory /usr/bin WORKS! However in /home/me/tmp it says: find: paths must precede expression
[02:36] <PassionFRUI7E> I do have a 2gb stick
[02:36] <T_Davis> cabrioleur: this could be an issue, bios reads the drive as 4.6gb partitioner reads as 4.9
[02:36] <veryangryman> 2gb stick sux
[02:36] <cabrioleur> LightTitan, /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[02:37] <nkei0> PassionFRUI7E: It will work as long as when you have it in and go into bios you can select it to boot first.
[02:37] <cabrioleur> LightTitan, unless you are living in USA then it's illegal.
[02:37] <tritium> cabrioleur: just point him to medibuntu for that
[02:37] <PassionFRUI7E> Yes I can change order.
[02:37] <PassionFRUI7E> Extract iso to root directory?
[02:37] <LightTitan> ok I will try that Cabrioleur
[02:38] <nkei0> PassionFRUI7E: I can't remember the exact procedure for it, but if you google installing from a usb stick you can find it
[02:38] <PassionFRUI7E> Thanks.  Got it.
[02:38] <runman> PassionFRUI7E: search for unetbootin, it will do it for you
[02:39] <nkei0> runman: aha, thanks that's what it was, i couldn't remember off the top of my head
[02:39] <[ipc]-michael> doing dist upgrade. wish me luck...
[02:39] <LightTitan> now I get "too many video packets in the buffer"
[02:40] <[ipc]-michael> intrepid here i come
[02:40] <LightTitan> restarting X...
[02:40] <nkei0> [ipc]-michael: you should be fine, i haven't had any problems yet that i didn't have in hardy
[02:40] <PassionFRUI7E> I give up.    Join the future.
[02:43] <hekin> hey, guys, I only have the terminal but the desktop, what do i need to do display Chinese in my terminal?
[02:43] <runman> type in Chinese ::-D
[02:44] <jamesish> Install the chinese language pack?
[02:44] <hekin> runman: I can't type in Chinese, becos I only have terminal
[02:44] <hekin> jamesish: would u mind being more specific?
[02:44] <ajian> he
[02:44] <ajian> 你们都能说英语？
[02:45] <ajian> 好强悍阿！
[02:45] <jamesish> hekin: I've never done it, but I imagine that if you look around online you'll find some method of installing the language pack that supports chinese. Install that.
[02:45] <hekin> ajian：没法子，老外的群嘛，呵呵
[02:45] <hekin> jamesish: thanks, man
[02:45] <jamesish> hekin: thank me after it works :P
[02:45] <hekin> jamesish: OK
[02:45] <ajian> 哈哈
[02:46] <ajian> 佩服
[02:46] <jamesish> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-240489.html talks about chinese language
[02:46] <hekin> jamesish: great!!
[02:47] <jamesish> [ipc]-michael -- intrepid is currently a release candidate, so they're actually assuming it's stable enough that the current package/bugfix list is capable of becoming the real release.
[02:48] <jamesish> looks like  export LANG=zh_CN.UTF-8 might well get the lang variable correctly. But I don't know, as I know insufficient chinese to actually test it :P
[02:48] <filth_> hm. is there a way to set textwidth, like with vim's set textwidth=75 in gedit?
[02:49] <jamesish> filth_: yes, but I'm drawing a blank right now.
[02:50] <r2s1> what should I do when PhpPgAdmin export page showing blank page ??
[02:50] <jamesish> r2s1: panic! You've been hacked!
[02:50] <filth_> jamesish: are you trying to be funny.
[02:50] <filth_> i'm looking for a similar feature as the vim set textwidth=75.
[02:51] <jamesish> filth_: in my response to you no, but I did misread your question.
[02:52] <jamesish> filth_: there's a right margin setting you can set up. Sounds like the same thing, really.
[02:52] <jamesish> filth_: Hm. You can show a margin at 75, but it doesn't force wraparound.
[02:53] <rambo298> any open office word experts here?
[02:53] <komputes> i think it's called writer
[02:53] <Rideh> wierd dhcp issue - fixing a eeepc running ubuntu   the wireless settings got fubar'd and there is now a device called wlan0-avahi  i've tried the follwoing http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2589498 and have gotten the wifi to connect to my network however the dhcp client seems to be jacked up.  DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to <IP_ADDRESS> port 67 etc
[02:53] <JakeMon> what do i have to install to get mod_rewrite for apache? the package names aren't obvious enough :-\
[02:53] <filth_> jamesish: i'll take a look at that, thanks.
[02:53] <Rideh> states network unreachable
[02:53] <rambo298> well when you run it from the gnome dropdown it's openoffice.org Word Processor
[02:54] <Vantrax> Rideh, that shoudl probably be <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:54] <hekin> jamesish: I've installed language-pack-zh for Chinese, it doesn't work
[02:54] <runman> rambo298: whats your question
[02:54] <jamesish> hekin: told you that thanks was premature ;)
[02:54] <komputes> hey look at that it is
[02:54] <rambo298> i want less than single spacing between lines; i only see 1 11/2 and double spacing
[02:54] <CJMCKEE> Does anyone know how to get a USB CardBus Adapter to work in Ubuntu?
[02:54] <cabrioleur> filth_, not really, you can set up the margin and text wrapping.
[02:54] <jamesish> Vantrax: No, <IP_ADDRESS> is correct in that case.
[02:55] <cabrioleur> Scrolling problem again...
[02:55] <hekin> jamesish: I own u a apology for tt:-D
[02:55] <komputes> if you see 1 11/2 and double spacing select 1
[02:55] <rambo298> i did; i want smaller than 1 ... the lines are too far apart
[02:55] <hekin> jamesish: but how to display simplified Chinese character in my Ubuntu's terminal?
[02:55] <Rideh> So my question is where can i modify the config for dhcp? i've restarted the service but cant seem to find any conf files for it
[02:55] <hekin> hekin: I also export LANG=zh_CN.UTF-8
[02:56] <runman> rambo298: set it to fixed and you can specify and size
[02:57] <runman> and = any
[02:57] <rambo298> runman: ty
[02:57] <dissentience> Hi there, I have installed Ubuntu from Windows and need to reinstall it, for some reason I can't find the partition where it is located -- under Drive Management in Vista it shows the drive as having one partition using all the space. How can I get rid of Ubuntu so I may reinstall it?
[02:58] <jamesish> hekin: I'm honestly not sure. Did you export the environment variable I displayed above?
[02:58] <hekin> jamesish: which one?
[02:58] <jamesish> If you add it to your .bashrc, log out and log in that should show whether it works. Make sure you have another terminal open so you can fix anything easily if something goes wrong.
[02:58] <jamesish> Ah, okay
[02:58] <runman> dissentience: when you install Ubuntu inside windows I believe the drive is virtual and only a single file
[02:58] <hekin> jamesish: u mean LANG
[02:58] <jamesish> (07:48:11 PM) jamesish: looks like  export LANG=zh_CN.UTF-8 might well get the lang variable correctly. But I don't know, as I know insufficient chinese to actually test it
[02:59] <hekin> jamesish: OK, I'll relogin to find out
[02:59] <JakeMon> what do i have to install to get mod_rewrite for apache? the package names aren't obvious enough :-\ ... anyone know or can tell me how to figure it out?
[02:59] <fulat2k> hi folks, created a usb live for 8.04 using the howto in the forums (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=740924).  when i tried to do the same for 8.10 beta, it gives me "unknown command in syslinux.cfg".  any idea what's wrong?
[02:59] <dissentience> runman - I have Show Hidden Files and Folders on, and don't see the file
[02:59] <CJMCKEE> I got a USB Card Bus Adapter that goes into my PC Card slot...but Ubuntu isnt recognizing it...any suggestions?
[02:59] <dissentience> I do however see a folder called ubuntu... I am assuming this is it?
[03:00] <runman> what is in the ubuntu folder
[03:00] <zackattack> Hey all. I'm running Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy) on one of my boxes, and want to do an upgrade. What do you guys think the best way to do this would be?
[03:00] <dissentience> disks / docs / install / winboot / couple txt's / ubuntu icon / uninstall EXE that doesn't do anything
[03:00] <jamesish> hekin: just bear in mind that's in the bashrc, so it talks to bash specifically.
[03:00] <mouseboyx> zackattack, do you have data you need on the box?
[03:00] <zackattack> mouseboyx: yes definitely
[03:00] <hekin> jamesish: all the Chinese chars are replaced with little diamonds
[03:00] <runman> check under disks
[03:01] <dissentience> boot / shared / root.disk and swap.disk
[03:01] <mouseboyx> zackattack, i would just back it up then do a fresh install if it was me.
[03:01] <zackattack> mouseboyx: may prove difficult, i need to do this remotely
[03:01] <mouseboyx> I would wait untill you dont have to do it remotely.
[03:02] <runman> root.disk and swap.disk are the virtual drives I was talking about
[03:02] <dissentience> runman why would the uninstall EXE not work properly?
[03:02] <zackattack> mouseboyx: not an option
[03:02] <dissentience> i double-click it and it does nothing
[03:02] <runman> I wont'
[03:02] <jamesish> hekin: That's good and bad. Good because it means something's working, bad because it means we have to find the right language pack and install it. Go forth and research ;)
[03:02] <runman> windows doesn't know what to do with it
[03:03] <dissentience> even though it's an EXE file?
[03:03] <runman> I'm talking about the *.disk files.
[03:03] <hekin> jamesish: OK, deal:)\
[03:03] <dissentience> oh, true
[03:03] <dissentience> i mean, there is an uninstall-ubuntu.exe file that does nothing
[03:03] <runman> just reinstall
[03:03] <mouseboyx> zackattack, just do sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[03:03] <dissentience> so delete the whole folder, put in my Ubuntu CD and reinstall?
[03:04] <runman> that would probably work but I haven't tested
[03:04] <dissentience> how else would you suggest doing it?
[03:04] <moes> Hardy 8.04 Compiz 0.7.4
[03:05] <runman> I install to separate partition, not inside windows.  Better performance running native instead of virtual
[03:06] <dissentience> right, but how would i go about removing the virtual properly so i can reinstall
[03:06] <e-frame> dissentience: if u installed ubuntu with wubi, then u can uninstall it like other apps in win***s
[03:06] <dissentience> i didn't install it with Wubi i don't think, but i did install it from Windows
[03:06] <dissentience> either way, when i try to remove it from Add/Remove Programs it doesn't work; nothing happens
[03:07] <runman> delete the ubuntu folder
[03:07] <K_Dallas> Good evening guys! Q: In prior to 8.04 version, I used to change my display in xorg.config but in 8.04 and 8.10 there is barely anything there. How do I manipulate video card's resolution, etc? Thanks
[03:07] <e-frame> how did u install from windows without wubi ?
[03:07] <Rideh> any idea why my wlan0 will be connected, shows device but cant obtain a lease from the dhcp server?  errors out with no working leases in persistent database  and i dont have mac filtering or anything enabled
[03:07] <layla> hello
[03:07] <Rideh> e-frame: vmware?
[03:07] <dissentience> i just put in the CD and double-clicked umenu.exe from it
[03:07] <mneptok> Rideh: MAC filtering?
[03:07] <layla> I'm new here
[03:07] <dissentience> i do see a wubi.exe on the CD now too though
[03:07] <runman> you can add to xorg.conf but the new xorg server autodetects most settings
[03:08] <dissentience> so it must have used wubi
[03:08] <e-frame> Rideh:  that was my question for dissentience. sorry
[03:08] <alteregoa> where can i get the fnord?
[03:08] <Rideh> mneptok: router option to allow only known mac's
[03:08] <moes> Hardy 8.0.4 compiz 0.7.4 emerald 0.7.2 I am trying to get emerald to run in compiz when I type emerald --replace in console the console border changed but disappeared when I close console
[03:08] <e-frame> !wubi > dissentience
[03:08] <mneptok> Rideh: so then you need to add the MAC address to the router's whitelist
[03:09] <dissentience> thank you e-frame
[03:09] <Rideh> mneptok: it is not turned on
[03:10] <Rideh> mneptok: thats what i'm tryng to say is that there is no reason i can think of why it wouldnt obtain info from the dhcp server
[03:10] <mneptok> Rideh: check the dhcpd server logs?
[03:10] <Rideh> cant - its a router
[03:10] <Rideh> you mean the dhcpd daemon?
[03:10] <e-frame> dissentience: yw
[03:11] <mneptok> Rideh: yes.
[03:11] <mneptok> Rideh: if your router doesn't provide a logging mechanism, that's ... some seriously cheap hardware ;)
[03:12] <Rideh> mneptok: i can take a look but i dont think it logs dhcp hits
[03:12] <mneptok> Rideh: who makes the router?
[03:12] <Rideh> linksys
[03:13] <Rideh> give me a sec and i'll look
[03:13] <Rideh> this eeepc is a pain in the ass to type on
[03:13] <runman> Rideh: check out dd-wrt for the linksys
[03:13] <Rideh> i have big hands. so i have to use my pinkys
[03:13] <mouseboyx> How small is the keyboard really, i was looking to get a netbook?
[03:13] <Rideh> i run that on my wrt54
[03:13] <mneptok> pinksys?
[03:13] <mneptok> i thought you said linksys
[03:13] <mneptok> *bah dum tish*
[03:14] <mongolai> mneptok:  boooo!
[03:14] <Rideh> mouseboyx: not comfortable for me at all 6'2"   i use a ibmt61p 14.1" and love it
[03:14] <Debolaz> Someone recommend a good webdav client for ubuntu.
[03:14] <Rideh> this eeepc is... i guess it'd be find with a extra keyboard
[03:15] <Rideh> mouseboyx: i can type quicker on my htc shadow than on this eeepc
[03:15] <mouseboyx> Rideh I have small fingers so i guess it wouldn't matter...
[03:15] <mneptok> Debolaz: Nautilus
[03:15] <Rideh> easier for me to type on my phone than this though
[03:15] <Debolaz> mneptok: Isn't that the default file browser for ubuntu?
[03:15] <mneptok> Debolaz: correct
[03:15] <Rideh> i guess it'd work for lightweight situations - but i rather just have my t61p :)
[03:15] <mneptok> Debolaz: and don;t you want to browse files?
[03:16] <Debolaz> mneptok: It's extremely buggy, bordering to useless when it comes to webdav.
[03:16] <mneptok> Debolaz: WFM
[03:16] <JakeMon> what does this mean? Can't list subversion repository: svn: warning: cannot set LC_CTYPE locale svn: warning: environment variable LANG is aa_DJ.utf8 svn: warning: please check that your locale name is correct svn: Unable to open an ra_local session to URL svn: Unable to open repository 'file:///vol/srv/www/htdocs/usvn/files/svn/easyrevisions' svn: Expected FS format '2'; found format '3'
[03:17] <mneptok> JakeMon: your default language is Arabic-Djibouti
[03:17] <JakeMon> mneptok: how do i change it?
[03:17] <alteregoa> mac adress is, 19432 queens blvd, NY - Queens
[03:18] <Rideh> mneptok: looks like the mac address from this eeepc isnt showing up on the dhcp client log in my router
[03:18] <mneptok> Rideh: that would cause problems, yes. ;)
[03:18] <runman> not doing mac filtering??
[03:19] <Rideh> no
[03:19] <Rideh> its disabled right now
[03:19] <mneptok> Rideh: try disabling authentication to the WAP and see if that helps connectivity
[03:19] <Rideh> what tool is used in gnome to show ssid's?
[03:20] <Rideh> er to find avail networks?
[03:20] <runman> networkmanager??
[03:20] <Rideh> and why is wlan0 broken but wlan0:avahi on but when i attempt to configure it says device doesnt exist
[03:20] <drumstyk1> i can't get youtube vids to go into fullscreen, any ideas?
[03:20] <c0mp13371331337> I'm attempting to modify a metacity theme I found on gnome-look.org.  The theme uses small .png images to create the window-border.  The unfortunate thing about this is the images are rectangular, and I'm looking to have rounded corners.  As it stands, the corners are black, which looks fine against a black background, but it's completely visible against any other color.  Does metacity support the transparent alpha channel when drawi
[03:21] <J-_> can someone suggest an easy dynamic IP client to update my IP with my server with freedns.afraid.org services?
[03:21] <Rideh> runman: where is network manager at by default? i'm not findin git
[03:21] <runman> in ubuntu,
[03:21] <runman> its the network icon in the top right corner
[03:22] <Woody86> which program is more compatible with Microsoft - OpenProj or Planner?
[03:22] <drumstyk1> has anyone beem able to watch a youtube vid in fullscreen?
[03:23] <Rideh> J-_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DynamicDNS
[03:23] <Marfi> drumstyk1, yes, but it is laggggggy
[03:23] <Rideh> runman: when i go there there are 2 options wired network (grey) and manual configuration
[03:24] <mneptok> J-_: apt-get install inadyn
[03:24] <bfig> hello, how can i lock my keyboard, so when i press my keys they don't do anything, something like a combination of keys... i remember in windows there was a function, something like shift f11, but now i can't see how to do it. is there any ubuntu counterpart of that function?
[03:25] <drumstyk1> Marfi: so is it normal for the fullscreen button to not work for more than a split second?
[03:25] <mouseboyx> lol bfig just playing around now i accidentaly found it ctrl+alt+L
[03:26] <bfig> mouseboyx: that locks me but the screen changes, i want to see the current screen and my keyboard be disabled
[03:26] <Marfi> drumstyk1, full screen works for me fine, but it lags. i have a pretty decent vid card and processor, and it still lags. its almost better just to watch it small imo
[03:26] <bfig> .
[03:26] <Marfi> drumstyk1, i prefer small and smooth as opposed to big and choppy. just my 2 cents though. =)
[03:27] <mouseboyx> Bfig, that does not exist to my knewledge
[03:27] <drumstyk1> Marfi: same here w/ the cpu and vid card. i was hoping there was a solution but i suppose i will have to deal with it
[03:27] <runman> mouseboyx: when i click on the logout icon there is a lock screen option that I think does what you want
[03:27] <Marfi> drumstyk1, new version is out in a few days *crosses fingers*
[03:27] <mouseboyx> Marfi, Flash videos?
[03:28] <bfig> mouseboyx: thanks =(
[03:28] <DavidCraft> I screwed up the sudoers file... and now I can't edit it because I need to 'sudo' to edit it.  SUgestions?
[03:28] <DavidCraft> Just boot off a CD and replace it?
[03:28] <mneptok> Marfi: diable visual effects
[03:28] <mneptok> *disable
[03:28] <Rideh> thanks for helpin guys i'll work on it more tommorrow long day today
[03:28] <mneptok> DavidCraft: boot to recovery mode and fix it
[03:28] <Marfi> mneptok, never run with them
[03:29] <DavidCraft> meh, k
[03:29] <mneptok> Marfi: what video chipset?
[03:29] <Marfi> mneptok, nvidia 7600 gtx with 512 ram, and a p4 2.4 ghz
[03:30] <Marfi> 512 meg video ram, 1 gig ram
[03:30] <Marfi> laptop is a centrino with 2 gigs of ram, and same problem. runs regular movies without a fart or hickup
[03:30] <mouseboyx> Marfi are we talking about flash videos?
[03:30] <mneptok> Marfi: whose drivers?
[03:30] <qbmaniac> Any easy way to find IN files? like in the content of a .pdf ?
[03:31] <drumstyk1> Marfi: damn, i will make the boyfriend keep up with it
[03:31] <Marfi> mouseboyx, yea, but i just watch them smaller. mneptok what do you mean with the drivers? drumstyk1 , thats what my girlfriend does. =)
[03:31] <e-frame> Woody86: how about open office base
[03:32] <runman> Marfi:  youtube plays fullscreen fine here, ubuntu 8.10
[03:32] <mindrape> qbmaniac - cat /this/folder/* | grep "something"  mebbe?
[03:32] <mneptok> Marfi: free drivers (e.g. Nouveau) or binary blobs (nvidia-glx*)?
[03:32] <Marfi> mneptok, binary blobs. runman what driver?
[03:32] <runman> radeon
[03:32] <mouseboyx> Marfi, this is an error with flash, because it for the most part sucks, you can use "video download helper" to download them in flv format then open them with mplayer or totem for perfect fullscreen
[03:32] <runman> i have ati video card
[03:32] <DavidCraft> mneptok: Alright I am in rescue mode, and I seam to only be able to edit the file in 'read only' and I cant sudo or anything
[03:33] <mneptok> DavidCraft: mount the partition read/write
[03:33] <halberd> how can I get the best of both worlds: full-screen command line with "screen," plus irc and a browser running on X11, with the ability to paste between the two?
[03:33] <Marfi> mouseboyx, its hoenstly not that big of a deal for me. how are the open drivers?
[03:33] <halberd> copy/paste
[03:33] <mouseboyx> ok then
[03:33] <mneptok> halberd: ctl-shift-c/v
[03:34] <J-_> mneptok:  In the tutorial, it says, "Edit the file to add the following additional line: @reboot /usr/sbin/inadyn" I have no clue what that means. Do I put, "@reboot /usr/sbin/inadyn" in the crontab?
[03:34] <Marfi> halberd, different workspace with full screen terminal + the brower and irc
[03:34] <Marfi> halberd, or you can alt + f* and switch workspace like that to give yourself a full screen terminal
[03:34] <Woody86> e-frame -  i'm open to suggestions :) Is Base really more compatible than OpenProj or Planner?
[03:34] <mneptok> J-_: yeah, that's what they mean, but that's ugly. better to add it to Upstart ;)
[03:34] <J-_> Upstart?
[03:34] <J-_> Never heard of it.
[03:35] <mneptok> J-_: Ubuntu's SysV-init replacement
[03:35] <jamesish> Upstart took over from the init scripts a while back.
[03:35] <freetown> anything like SMF on Solaris or djb's daemontools?
[03:35] <Joker_-_> IS that possible to copy over an installation of ubuntu? I have a server that is setup well, with datas and all but I installed 2 new drives in it in order to make raid mirroring. I re-ran the install and setup raid and everything is functionnal. Can I just copy over all the datas on my older drive? I guess the kernel has to have some different modules or something in order to load the software raid... any idea?
[03:35] <WelshDragon> Hey, When running dstat, only every other line, does it actually show the network transfer rate. On the other lines the transfer rates (up and down) are at 0. Any idea why and how to fix?
[03:35] <J-_> How do I get upstart running?
[03:35] <drumstyk1> Marfi: yeah, my bf doesn't know anything about ubuntu but i give him google assignments now and then
[03:35] <halberd> yes marfi that's what I've been doing with alt-f* but is it possible to make a workspace appear exactly like text mode?
[03:35] <freetown> jamesish,  is Upstart anything like SMF on Solaris or djb's daemontools?
[03:36] <Guest79993> can someone help me with a wireless problem, i was connected fine and suddenly my wireless stopped working and i booted to a live cd and to dapper and it still didnt work even when i swapped out the cards
[03:36] <phantomcircuit> Im getting an error opening a power point presentation with presenter, "General Error.\nGeneral input/output error."
[03:36] <Guest79993> right now im on windows
[03:36] <Joker_-_> let me reformulate: How do I copy all a server's data that was on a single hard drive to an array?
[03:36] <Guest79993> ubuntu finds the card the drivers are loaded it just doesnt connect
[03:36] <halberd> i.e. no menus, no distracting mouse pointer
[03:36] <Marfi> halberd, you can use ctrl alt + arrow key and just open a terminal there. i like it like that, because you have to mess with configs to get the resolution < 800 x 600
[03:36] <usser_> Joker_-_, if its a hardware raid then ubuntu doesnt care as long as its supported by kernel
[03:37] <Marfi> halberd, *dont have to mess
[03:37] <Guest79993> can someone please help i cant get on the internet anymore
[03:37] <Joker_-_> Server.Datas.ToArray() ?
[03:37] <Joker_-_> usser_: sadly, it's not. I'ts software
[03:37] <usser_> Joker_-_, its gonna see the array as a regular single disk
[03:37] <usser_> Joker_-_, and the modules for hardware are loaded on startup
[03:37] <Marfi> Guest79993, your here, so it must be working. =P
[03:37] <halberd> marfi but then how do you copy paste
[03:37] <halberd> between X and the terminal
[03:37] <Joker_-_> usser_: as previously said, sadly, it's not
[03:37] <Joker_-_> hence my presence here
[03:37] <jamesish> freetown: more like apple's startup stuff.
[03:37] <Guest79993> stfu Marfi
[03:37] <Marfi> Guest79993, whats the problem?
[03:37] <Guest79993> lol
[03:37] <Marfi> halberd, ctrl shift v
[03:37] <Marfi> halberd, when workign with the terminal
[03:37] <cens0red> I want to move my / partition to another hard drive. Can I do this under linux?
[03:38] <Guest79993> my computer isnt connecting to wireless networks
[03:38] <mneptok> Joker_-_: dd or rsync
[03:38] <usser_> Joker_-_, sorry, i've never dealt with software raid. sorry i jumped in like that
[03:38] <freetown> jamesish, oh...is that what hardy heron uses?
[03:38] <halberd> well with screen I need to do C-a <space> <space>
[03:38] <Guest79993> im getting a signal it just doesnt connect
[03:38] <usser_> cens0red, yes of course
[03:38] <Marfi> Guest79993, what card?
[03:38] <Guest79993> four marfi
[03:38] <jamesish> freetown: yeah, it is. Do a little read up on it if you like, but it's dry stuff.
[03:38] <cens0red> usser_ but how?
[03:38] <Guest79993> linksys wireless g , two intel mini ipw2200 and an atheros g
[03:38] <Joker_-_> mneptok: rsync and/or dd will overwrite all the kernel's modules and so on. then the system wont boot
[03:38] <Guest79993> all have the drivers but none connect
[03:38] <m1dn1ght> Hi guys.  I'm having some trouble setting up samba shares with ubuntu.  I've got 2 machines both running hardy, both attached to the same router. (one wirelessly, one wired) and they can both ping each other.  I've set up sharing on 2 folders (right clicking the folder, sharing options etc) and from Computer 1 I can access the share easily...just smb://<IP_ADDRESS>/Shared in nautilus, it asks for username and password and we're away.  Problem is from
[03:38] <m1dn1ght> Comp 2 to Comp 1 it's not accepting any username or password and won't mount the share
[03:39] <halberd> terminal has no mouse
[03:39] <halberd> it's just a tty
[03:39] <halberd> ctrl shift v doesn't work I think...
[03:39] <Guest79993> i think its an issue with network manager
[03:39] <freetown> jamesish, sure, thanks
[03:39] <Joker_-_> mneptok: either be more specific or forget the whole idea
[03:39] <Marfi> Guest79993, the ipw2200 will be the best bet for you
[03:39] <Marfi> halberd, it should
[03:39] <m1dn1ght> Sorry for the long question.  Any help would be much appreciated.
[03:39] <mneptok> Joker_-_: "try using the applications dd or rsync"