[14:42] <lotuspsychje> urielvigilant: depends if your joystick needs ubuntu drivers to work, did the joystick ever work for ubuntu games?
[14:45] <Robbiecano> hi!
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> Robbiecano: welcome, what can we do for you mate?
[14:46] <urielvigilant> lotuspsychje : i can make the buttons moving with the test tools like jstest-gtk . . . but i never tryed it in lubuntu games . . . only in Onlive under playonlinux
[14:46] <CookieM> Robbiecano hello
[14:46] <bcuda_> Why would a listed program be found as a 'No such file or directory' - especially if 'ls' finds it, it is clearly shown in the file manager (whatever unity uses), and tab autocompletes? (12.04lts)
[14:46] <urielvigilant> lotuspsychje : i can make the buttons moving with the test tools like jstest-gtk . . . but i never tryed it in lubuntu games . . . only in Onlive under playonlinux
[14:46] <urielvigilant> lotuspsychje : how to install drivers for it on linux ?
[14:46] <Robbiecano> can someone tell me why i cant install windows apps on ubuntu
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> urielvigilant: try your joystick on an ubuntu game first, see if it works there
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> Robbiecano: what are you trying to install?
[14:47] <Robbiecano> battlefield 4
[14:47] <enrico__> hi guys, I have an issue with an USB mixer wich worked like a charm on win7
[14:47] <Robbiecano> but it wont open
[14:47] <urielvigilant> lotuspsychje :  tell me a light one please to test ,
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> !info playonlinux | Robbiecano
[14:47] <Robbiecano> and also my penis is stuck in my budwieser how can i get it out?
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> urielvigilant: tux racer :p
[14:47] <enrico__> In sound settings ---> Output I can't see it
[14:48] <Robbiecano> !ops | help me get my penis out of my 40oz beer
[14:48] <urielvigilant> lotuspsychje :  ok i will do it now .
[14:48] <Robbiecano> !staff
[14:50] <bcuda_> Hi. anyone have any ideas about my question?
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> bcuda_: what program are we talking about mate?
[14:51] <bcuda_> a cuda compiled program, but I have seen it happen with other stuff
[14:52] <bcuda_> lotuspsychje: ^
[14:52] <lotuspsychje> bcuda_: what exactly you wanna do? run it?
[14:52] <bcuda_> I am not concerned with it not running as much as bash not finding it.
[14:53] <bcuda_> lotuspsychje:  especially if the file manager sees it as does ls
[14:54] <urielvigilant> lotuspsychje :  the joystick work right and left  i think it work . . .
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> bcuda_: not sure mate sorry
[14:55] <urielvigilant> lotuspsychje :  button N also make it shake the wings
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> bcuda_: maybe specify in channel, how you installed it and what this package does..
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> anyway im out for dinner
[14:56] <urielvigilant> lotuspsychje :  Bon Appettite !  !
[15:01] <ovrflw0x> http://ppa.launchpad.net/team-xbmc/ppa/ubuntu/dists/saucy/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[15:01] <ovrflw0x> what to do now?
[15:02] <bcuda_> I have another question: how do I enable GLX to run on my screen?
[15:06] <bcuda_> http://pastebin.com/7LpsvmYA
[15:06] <claudia> Hi all, I posted my problem 1 hour ago: HP Pavilion, AMD Radion 8240 grafic card, UEfi secure boot deactivated, GPT, now also trial of installation via USB stick with kubuntu-13.10 failed. I see the kubuntu grafic on the screen for some time, than a short flash with konsole messages and after that  a black screen. Nothing else for some time now.
[15:07] <bcuda_> claudia: function key plus brighter button (up on my laptop)
[15:07] <bcuda_> try that
[15:08] <claudia> no reaction, still black screen, light on power is on
[15:09] <claudia> I cannot change to konsole on CRTL-ALT-F1 or something
[15:10] <justaguy> i have the most idiotic problem ever with ubuntu, i have a plantronics 626 DSP headset and when i press the off button for my microphone, my touchpad left mouse doesn't work anymore...
[15:14] <bcuda_> justaguy: sounds like something is referencing a location in a list and and when your microphone disconnects, the list location should be updated. other than that, no idea.
[15:15] <bcuda_> claudia: increasing the brightness fails? what model number is your HP?
[15:16] <Eli-5dce> Hello
[15:16] <Foxhoundz> where is the php.ini stored?
[15:16] <Foxhoundz> I tried /etc/php5 but nothing seems to be there
[15:17] <Foxhoundz> wait
[15:17] <Foxhoundz> is conf.d the ini file for php?
[15:17] <Foxhoundz> or the directory
[15:17] <Foxhoundz> rather
[15:17] <claudia> No model number on the back, have to check the bill
[15:18] <EpixP0ison> Hi there Im running ubuntu 13.10 ubuntu boots and loads up the login screen when loading the login screen the screen flikers but then sorts out after 2 seconds i then login once logged inb the background is black and only my cursor is shown no wallpapper / unity / icons / top bar ect ect is shown i tried using ctrl alt T to get up terminal but that didnt work i then went into the root terminal in recoveryh mode to try and remove r
[15:18] <EpixP0ison> but this did not work
[15:18] <EpixP0ison> can anybody help
[15:22] <EpixP0ison> Anybody?
[15:24] <bcuda_> EpixP0ison: try increasing the screen brightness of the laptop with the functionkey+whateverisforyourlaptop
[15:24] <EpixP0ison> that isnt the issue
[15:25] <EpixP0ison> its a desktop and the brightnes sis fine
[15:25] <EpixP0ison> pyopencl is what i belived caused the issue
[15:25] <EpixP0ison> the displays are perfect
[15:25] <claudia> bcuda_: HP Pavilion 17 Notebook PC
[15:26] <claudia> BIOS Konfiguration: F17-08/07/2013
[15:26] <Maddeth> Hey guys, anyone able to help with a 7z issue?
[15:26] <bcuda_> Hi anyone here know how to get an NVIDIA755M to work right under linux? apparently it doesn't know how to use GLX or display at :0.
[15:27] <claudia> bcuda_:  AMD E1-2500 APU with Radeon (TM) HD Graphics
[15:28] <EpixP0ison> how about i rephrase my question
[15:28] <EpixP0ison> how can i remove a package via the recorvry mode
[15:28] <EpixP0ison> apt-get remove does not work
[15:30] <bcuda_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/162075/my-computer-boots-to-a-black-screen-what-options-do-i-have-to-fix-it
[15:31] <IdleOne> !nomodeset | bcuda_
[15:32] <EpixP0ison> as i said
[15:32] <EpixP0ison> login screen is fine
[15:33] <EpixP0ison> this is for if even the login dosnt show
[15:34] <vicky> hi all. Why custom udev rules not working in ubuntu 12.04? I am writing a rule for usb to serial modem.
[15:35] <vicky> but nt at at all running. I tested with udev monitor. It is not loading.
[15:35] <vicky> Is it a known issue?
[15:36] <bekks> vicky: Most likely your udev rule is just broken.
[15:37] <vicky> bekks: I tested so many  examples also. but nothing works.
[15:37] <Maddeth> having an issue encrypting a file using 7z with a £ in the password, I have tried escaping it but it still fails
[15:38] <Maddeth> current encoding should see the symbol, so not sure why it wouldn't work, also to add, It can extract using the password, just not compress
[15:38] <vicky> i followed a latest udev rule article from http://www.crashcourse.ca/wiki/index.php/Udev. But no use.
[15:38] <adamu> Goodbye Everyone Has a Nice Day
[15:38] <bcuda_> bekks or IdleOne: any idea how to get a nvidia 755M to display GLX programs?
[15:39] <vicky> Really some problem with udev in ubuntu 12.04
[15:39] <bekks> bcuda_: By installing the latest nvidia drivers from the official ubuntu repos.
[15:39] <arpad2> I'm getting error message after 'optirun steam' http://paste.ubuntu.com/6504689/
[15:39] <bekks> vicky: We cant help you without seeing the rule.
[15:39] <marlo__> i'm ssh to a remote machine and keep getting kicked 'broken pipe' after a period of no activity... google has revealed little useful solutions
[15:39] <vicky> wait a minute.
[15:39] <bcuda_> bekks: 12.04 LTS says no updates available
[15:40] <bekks> bcuda_: Well, we dont know which driver you have installed.
[15:40] <bcuda_> how can I get youo that information?
[15:40] <bekks> bcuda_: And we dont know wether you have a specific problem with your graphics or not.
[15:40] <bcuda_> glxgears fails
[15:41] <bekks> !nvidia | bcuda_
[15:41] <vicky> bekks: ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="tty", KERNEL=="ttyUSB*", ATTR{idVendor}=="19d2", ATTR{idProduct}=="fff1", RUN+="/usr/bin/wvdial mts"
[15:41] <Danato> bekks: can you assist me with this last comment? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1250051
[15:41] <Danato> bekks: so according to him the kernel shouldnt work after that command. And idk how to revert it afterwards
[15:42] <Maddeth> no-one?
[15:42] <bekks> Danato: then ask him please ;)
[15:42] <bcuda_> http://pastebin.com/PC7R33YT
[15:43] <Danato> bekks: i thought it would be faster if I just asked here
[15:44] <thogan> I have changed my interface configuration to static ip addresses and now I get "Waiting up to 60 more seconds for network configuration..." on boot-up.  Any ideas what is causing this?  All of my interfaces are correct and working when the system completes the boo process.
[15:44] <SrPx> What is the best notebook you can buy today to run Ubuntu in, regardless of price?
[15:44] <xangua> !hardware | SrPx
[15:45] <Maddeth> thogan: what does you /etc/network/interfaces look like?
[15:45] <SrPx> xangua: Thanks but this does not answer my question!
[15:45] <thogan> Maddeth: how should I show you? Pastebin link or cut and paste here?
[15:46] <xangua> SrPx: your question might be better fir for #hardware or something
[15:46] <Maddeth> pastebin thogan
[15:46] <Maddeth> oy uoi can pm me thogan
 stay away from Nvidia Optimus
[15:46] <Maddeth> or you*
[15:47] <bcuda_> bekks: pastebin.com/E7RvVCr3 is the output
[15:47] <AshishL> MonkeyDust : i have pinged google  . it shows ping unknown host : www.google.com
[15:48] <bekks> bcuda_: Thats an Nvidia Optimus System, isnt it?
[15:48] <thogan> Maddeth: Brace yourself :) http://pastebin.com/5e3ns3HR
[15:49] <bcuda_> not sure, its a Nvidia 755M, I know that
[15:49] <bekks> bcuda_: And and Intel, in addition.
[15:50] <impradeepy> teamviewer ailternatives for ubuntu??
[15:50] <bekks> impradeepy: nxclient, or vnc over ssh.
[15:50] <impradeepy> ok thanks
[15:51] <impradeepy> will it connect with windows?
[15:51] <Maddeth> thogan: is this a firewall?
[15:51] <AshishL> i have problem connecting to the internet in ubuntu . it shows wired connection connected but when i open firefox it shows server not found . i tried to ping google and result = unknown host : google.com
[15:51] <bekks> impradeepy: Both use a different concept than Windows does.
[15:52] <yeats> AshishL: how about 'ping <IP_ADDRESS>'? does that work?
[15:52] <impradeepy> i have to connect remote windows os to ubuntu
[15:53] <bekks> impradeepy: from windows to ubuntu?
[15:53] <impradeepy> bekks: ubuntu to windows
[15:54] <bekks> impradeepy: rdesktop
[15:54] <impradeepy> ok i ll install now ty :)
[15:55] <urielvigilant> In Lubuntu 13.10   Lubutu aplications center, when searching Games and then clicking in "Information" , we are not able to see the games informations nether none app informations at all !
[15:56] <wolfspy> hello!
[15:56] <mjayk> hi
[16:03] <AshishL> yeats : same result . hey i have ifconfig result . can you see it . ( ill send it to you via email as i am using windows and its a libre file )
[16:03] <yeats> !pastebin | AshishL
[16:05] <estudiante> Hola
[16:06] <AshishL> yeats : how to paste libre files ?
[16:08] <kwang-py1> ls
[16:09] <kwang-py1> exit
[16:10] <estudiante> Is leguaje in inglis ou is shpanis
[16:10] <estudiante> ??
[16:10] <wolfspy> ingles
[16:10] <wolfspy> inglis*
[16:11] <urielvigilant> Hola estudiante quieres ayuda ?
[16:11] <urielvigilant> no hablas engles ?
[16:13] <estudiante> Como mierda es esto ??
[16:13] <bekks> !english | estudiante
[16:15] <jhutchins> !pt
[16:16] <xangua> happy customer
[16:17] <urielvigilant> some one here live UK ?
[16:18] <xangua> !anyone | urielvigilant
[16:20] <akhil_> Hi everyone , how do I access file in a guest session from another user account?
[16:21] <urielvigilant> xangua : thanks
[16:21] <Eli-5dce> akhil_ : go to a little gear shaped button in the right top corner and click switch user
[16:21] <ben_xyzzy> Can anybody explain how the following works (it takes password entry and puts it into the stdin of another script (somehow): http://ideone.com/LK3IPt
[16:22] <akhil_> Eli-5dce: but I want to access it from another account.
[16:22] <Eli-5dce> akhil_ : you mean as in remote or from the same computer?
[16:23] <akhil_> Eli-5dce: same
[16:23] <akhil_> Eli-5dce: without swtiching user
[16:23] <Eli-5dce> akhil_ : logoff and do it?
[16:23] <akhil_> Eli-5dce: for instance the guest user's home folder and files.
[16:24] <akhil_> Eli-5dce: without loggin off or switching accounts, like mount the user's home folder or something?
[16:24] <Eli-5dce> akhil_ : oh then if you are a admin I think you can access it from your files... That might only be a windows thing though
[16:25] <akhil_> Eli-5dce: yes I have sudo access.
[16:25] <Eli-5dce> akhil_ : then use that to get to the files and user
[16:26] <akhil_> Eli-5dce: yes but where are they mounted?
[16:27] <akhil_> Eli-5dce: I mean access from which path:?
[16:27] <Eli-5dce> akhil_ what is your file name? For your user account
[16:27] <akhil_> Eli-5dce: there are just 2 folders in home, mine and lost+found
[16:27] <akhil_> /home/
[16:28] <Eli-5dce> akhil_: you should switch user and see what the home file name is
[16:29] <urielvigilant> Anyone from uk, could buy me a Onlive GAmes monthly pass ? I give all you need to buy the pass and i have a gift for you too !
[16:30] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: can you help me with something again?
[16:31] <CiSense> hi i made a boot-repair and now I have 13.04 back, but I have no dash ... how can i fix this?
[16:31] <_root_> I am on a windows machine and I have a linux server and a putty ;; how could a tunnel my firefox or other internet connection through that server?
[16:33] <SASDOE> _root_: ssh -ND <port_num> user@machine
[16:33] <BluesKaj_> set up a vpn server on your server, root
[16:33] <SASDOE> _root_: then in firefox for example, conenction, proxy, socks, host : localhost, port <port_num>
[16:33] <geirha> !ics | _root_
[16:33] <_root_> BluesKaj_: I want something easy and i am in hurry
[16:34] <SASDOE> _root_: do what I told you to do then.
[16:37] <_root_> SASDOE: How; i putty I can set IP and port and then I connect to the server it asks me for passs and then I am at my server's command line. where could I enter the command
[16:37] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: what seems to be the problem?
[16:38] <MtrPanda> folks
[16:38] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: the same person told me to run a command, that will supposedly will make the kernel fail, and I wouldnt know how to revert it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1250051
[16:38] <MtrPanda> how do I get sound to play? using mate front end?
[16:40] <dblack_> whoops, i've broken down in the middle of a 13.10 upgrade
[16:40] <dblack_> i think i just bricked my computer
[16:41] <Eli-5dce_busy> Lenovo is not a good brand of computer's, some people might think otherwise....
[16:41] <dblack_> the upgrade box went gray and there's some python-related error message
[16:41] <dblack_> does anyone know a way to salvage such a situation?
[16:42]  * dblack_ should have been content with 13.04 :-(
[16:42] <MtrPanda> how can i get sound to work ?
[16:43] <xangua> MtrPanda: mate is not supported here
[16:43] <urielvigilant> Lubuntu 13.10 dont run on acer 3003 wmli with 1gb ram ?  Should i try 12.04 instead ?
[16:44] <MtrPanda> thanks xangua  but no reason for sound not to work
[16:44] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: looks like its a case of building the kernel. its effectively the same as you've already done, its just you're building a kernel instead of installing a precompiled one. if it fails it will again be the case of finding the older kernel in the grub menu, booting that, then purging this kernel
[16:44] <urielvigilant> I think its'graphic car or something but i dont have sure ! What could be ?
[16:45] <CiSense> 13.04 boots ok but unity does not start
[16:46] <hitsujiTMO> CiSense: are you able to open a terminal with ctrl + alt + t ?
[16:46] <Megabyte> Hi guys
[16:47] <CiSense> hitsujiTMO, yes
[16:47] <Megabyte> I got a bad ram stick, and it crashed mc while I was installing it.
[16:47] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: so isnt it better to install another kernel and run that command on top of it? that way i could uninstall the affected and all would be good
[16:47] <Megabyte> Now, whenever I reinstall it, I get a corrupted installation (default theme won't install)
[16:47] <Megabyte> how do I fix this?
[16:47] <hitsujiTMO> CiSense: try resetting unity: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[16:47] <CiSense> hitsujiTMO,  thanks .. reading
[16:48] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: its not going to change your exising kernel, it will compile and build a new some. the only thing tho is that it might take a while
[16:49] <wolfspy> I have 60 tabs open in firefox...
[16:49] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: aah ok. So i can purge it afterwards the same way i was doing with the others right?
[16:49] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: yup
[16:49] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: and how would I know its file names so I could purge them?
[16:51] <CiSense> hitsujiTMO, before i could reset  i got unexpected error and it locked up :(
[16:51] <dblack_> well, the system seems to think it's 13.10 even though the upgrade broke down midway
[16:52] <CiSense> hitsujiTMO, earlier i did a boot-repair
[16:53] <tracer71> Hy
[16:54] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: I guess one way to know that would be knowing where are the kernels files stored
[16:54] <user01_> .
[16:56] <LtRipley> hi
[16:56] <LtRipley> how do i findout which config setting is responsible for starting jackdbus on startup and how do i change it?
[16:57] <_root_> SASDOE:  what is the switch for the remote server port in your command
[16:57] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: nvm, i think I found a way. thanks
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[17:00] <LtRipley> is there any way of controlling which daemons are started at startup, sometimes i am surprised what is running on my computer
[17:00] <LtRipley> i feel like i have no influence on those things
[17:00] <usrnix> Hi, is there a netbook edition still?
[17:01] <rallosvan> LtRipley: Look at the 'services' command I think.
[17:02] <rallosvan> LtRipley: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man8/service.8.html
[17:02] <rallosvan> LtRipley: Read the docs there, they give the location of the startup scripts
[17:03] <LtRipley> rallosvan: i thought there were some ubuntu specific tools in place that maintain those entries
[17:04] <hitsujiTMO> CiSense: what was the error you got?
[17:05] <SASDOE> _root_: say what?
[17:05] <rallosvan> LtRipley: I can't help with GUI tools. But the information there will let you do it from a terminal and text editor.
[17:05] <_root_> SASDOE: thanks I found it
[17:06] <LtRipley> rallosvan: i didn't ask for gui tools
[17:06] <hitsujiTMO> LtRipley: what services are you trying to stop running at startup?
[17:07] <LtRipley> my question was whether there is a ubuntu specific tooling in place that manages that kind of configs automatically, when installing packages with apt-get
[17:07] <LtRipley> hitsujiTMO: jackdbus
[17:07] <bekks> !upstart | LtRipley
[17:08] <rallosvan> he already knows it runs upstart as he read the man page for service; if the user doesnt read docs, nothing I can do.
[17:09] <LtRipley> bekks: at no point ever i changed init or upstart to autorun those services, it seems the wrong place to me now to directly change the settings there
[17:09] <phong_> how to install directx in WINE?
[17:09] <rallosvan> seems?
[17:09] <yeats> dblack_: did you backup your data before beginning the upgrade?
[17:10] <LtRipley> rallosvan: yes, thats why i ask
[17:10] <bekks> LtRipley: Well, if you want to configure upstart, configure it. Dont look out for a shiny gui toopl doing exactly that. :)
[17:10] <rallosvan> LtRipley: the installers do a lot behind your back - upstart is the way the OS does it, and what they all end up calling somehow
[17:11] <LtRipley> rallosvan: i know that, that is why i am asking whether there is a solution on the same abstraction level the installers work on
[17:11] <LtRipley> i don't want to mess with some settings and the next time i use the installers they choke on it
[17:11] <phong_> anyone know how to install directx in wine?
[17:11] <LtRipley> (or just overwrite my changes)
[17:12] <subz3r0> phong_: use winetricks OR playonlinux(would prefer this solution)
[17:12] <yeats> phong_: /join #winehq
[17:12] <LtRipley> rallosvan: it is not that i am fail to read the manpage, it is just that my experience with linux tells me that i don't want to change that that deep
[17:12] <hitsujiTMO> LtRipley: the installers don't work on any abstraction layer. they directly write those upstart/sys v scripts
[17:12] <Megabyte> How do I grant Wine writing permissions to a directory I've protected read-only?
[17:12] <bekks> LtRipley: the installers will always overwrite your settings like: if you disable apache, and update apache, and the installer is set to activate apache again, it will do so.
[17:12] <LtRipley> hitsujiTMO: and they have no "undo"?
[17:12] <Megabyte> (NTFS usb drive)
[17:13] <hitsujiTMO> LtRipley: no undo
[17:13] <LtRipley> ok thanks
[17:14] <rallosvan> LtRipley: if you google very hard you might be able to find a gui tool for upstart, but I will say most folk here would just edit the files and be done with it
[17:14] <yeats> LtRipley: upstart isn't that deep (IMHO)
[17:16] <axizor> hey guys I know im in the wrong channel, but anyone running a utorrent server here?
[17:16] <rallosvan> LtRipley: I am not taking the mickey, but reading manpages is part of the Ubnutu experience no matter what Mr Shuttleworth says about making it all point and click
[17:17] <gordonjcp> point and click isn't really suitable for servers, anyway
[17:17] <gordonjcp> you can't have a GUI on a server
[17:17] <LtRipley> yeats: ok :) i just want to avoid screwing with parts of the config that will totally mess up my system, just to have later people tell me it was my own fault if i changed those settings
[17:17] <gordonjcp> well, you *can*, but it's a horrible user experience
[17:18] <rallosvan> LtRipley: is there any reason you need to disable jackD anyway?
[17:18] <SASDOE> gordonjcp: and not something people seem to want.
[17:18] <wolfspy> the startup disk creator is stuck at 94% complete
[17:18] <LtRipley> rallosvan: this is not about unwillingness to read manpages, it is just that manpages won't necessarily tell you a lot about the distro's infrastructure
[17:18] <SASDOE> gordonjcp: thankfully.
[17:18] <gordonjcp> SASDOE: indeed
[17:18] <gordonjcp> SASDOE: not even Windows servers have GUIs
[17:18] <gordonjcp> SASDOE: at least not the ones I've seen
[17:18] <SASDOE> gordonjcp: Mac's do. Tried it, loathed it.
[17:19] <rallosvan> LtRipley: it iwll tell you how to disable a service, and you know the name of the serivce. it should not be frightening. but why disable jackd?
[17:19] <gordonjcp> SASDOE: don't think I ever saw a GUI on the Mac servers we had
[17:19] <LtRipley> rallosvan: i am asuming to have multiple instances of jack running, and i am fighting hard to get jack runnign with my usb soun card
[17:19] <gordonjcp> LtRipley: don't have multiple instances of jack running
[17:19] <bazhang>  join #utorrent on irc.p2p-irc.net   axizor
[17:19] <yeats> LtRipley: just create copies of anything you're changing and you're golden
[17:19] <LtRipley> gordonjcp: that's why i want to disable one of them ;)
[17:19] <rallosvan> LtRipley: You only need jackd if you want lag free audio monitoring - is that still the case?
[17:19] <SASDOE> gordonjcp: when was that?
[17:20] <gordonjcp> SASDOE: a few years ago
[17:20] <LtRipley> rallosvan: or use tools that rely on jack
[17:20] <gordonjcp> LtRipley: chances are you haven't got multiple jack servers running
[17:20] <gordonjcp> LtRipley: because that takes a bit of effort
[17:20] <SASDOE> gordonjcp: http://www.apple.com/osx/server/
[17:21] <gordonjcp> LtRipley: if you are entirely new to Linux and want proper jack audio *and* the ease-of-use you get from Ubuntu, look into kxstudio
[17:21] <rallosvan> LtRipley: btw what are you doing and which programs are you using?
[17:21] <LtRipley> gordonjcp: yes, you might be right. All i know is that there is an instance of jackdbus running and jack_control says it is not running
[17:21] <LtRipley> rallosvan: ardour is my main point of interest now, but it is not about ardour
[17:21] <rallosvan> LtRipley: I would agree with gordonjcp - thre are music specific spins of ubuntu or linux. Proaudio on linux is a bit of a train wreck to setup
[17:22] <LtRipley> gordonjcp: i am not entirely new, i just don't mess with configs that often since i have a steady job
[17:22] <phong_> how to check wine version?
[17:22] <CiSense> hitsujiTMO, system errors and lockups .. i'm instaling 13.10 now
[17:22] <flugh> wine --version?
[17:23] <LtRipley> rallosvan: i've got the feeling that either way i need to understand what is happening, and audio under ubuntu is annoying me for some time, so i am going the learn the details
[17:23] <phong_> wow i have 1.4.1
[17:23] <LtRipley> rallosvan: i don't think any specific ubuntu version will solve all my problems
[17:23] <phong_> is there a way to upgrade it? i think that is not the latest one
[17:23] <rallosvan> LtRipley: quite a few media distros would have ardour pre configured - it is the most comon DAW on linux
[17:24] <LtRipley> rallosvan: i would bet quite some money that it doesn't run out of the box on my hardware
[17:24] <rallosvan> LtRipley: I am sure there is a channel for adour actualy. Perhaps #ardour?
[17:24] <LtRipley> rallosvan: this is not about ardour, thanks
[17:24] <rallosvan> LtRipley: did you try ubuntustudio?
[17:25] <LtRipley> no
[17:25] <rallosvan> LtRipley: Well to be honest, I don't know what exactly it is about anymore; it has changed with each issue. Whatever you're trying to do, I wish you good luck with it.
[17:25] <LtRipley> rallosvan: thanks
[17:26] <rallosvan> LtRipley: However when you work out exactly what you want to do, we're here to answer that specific question
[17:26] <LtRipley> rallosvan: you answered my questions already
[17:27] <LtRipley> the rest of the conversation was about you making me justifying what i want to do :)
[17:27] <aPpYe> I am building a KDE system from Ubuntu mini 13.10.  I have apt-get's Install-Recommends feature disabled.  If I build the system WITH recommends, everything is fine.  If I build WITHOUT, the Languages tab under Locale in System Settings is stuck with a progress meter that hangs at 0% forever.
[17:27] <aPpYe> Linked…  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6505158/  ...is a list of packages (what would come with Install-Recommends enabled) that fixes the issue.  I am having a really hard time figuring out what package(s) from this list are required for the Language tab to work correctly.
[17:28] <rallosvan> LtRipley: Not justify, just your use case was unusual enough so have to make sure it wasn't an XY question.
[17:29] <LtRipley> rallosvan: whatever that is :)
[17:29] <bcuda_> How do you reset all nvidia settings / packages to what a fresh install would have?
[17:29] <bcuda_> or do I have to re install ubuntu12.04 over itself?
[17:30] <Mitizaro> Helllllo thereee!!
[17:30] <adamu> bcuda_, blacklist the nvidia kernel module and unblacklist nouveau (if you did blacklist nouveau) then remove the config file nvidia-xconfig generated and it should be gone
[17:30] <Mitizaro> Can i be proposed a good Ubuntu distro for FULL FLASH support (considering my PC is strong, but old -- 2,4GHZ, 1,3GB Ram and Nvidia 5900)
[17:31] <ikonia> Mitizaro: flash is dead on linux
[17:31] <rallosvan> LtRipley: You're OK. But sometimes user wants to do Y, thinks X is the best way to do Y, and asks how to do X, not Y.
[17:31] <bcuda_> adamu: any idea how to do that from terminal? I can't startx linux crashes
[17:31] <aPpYe> well ... use chrome
[17:31] <aPpYe> not chromium
[17:31] <aPpYe> pepper flash
[17:31] <bcuda_> complete crash, not little crash
[17:31] <rallosvan> Mitizaro: Only google chrome has the latest proprietary flash player. Chromium doens.t
[17:31] <bcuda_> and I've done nothing but use apt-get installer
[17:32] <Mitizaro> i HAVE flash
[17:32] <rallosvan> Mitizaro: so any distro, but use the google-branded chrome browser
[17:32] <Mitizaro> in my vector linux
[17:32] <Mitizaro> oops
[17:32] <adamu> bcuda_, do you have a file in /etc/modprobe.d/ called nvidia-installer-disable-nouveau.conf
[17:32] <Mitizaro> i have google chrome
[17:32] <Mitizaro> but still cant open basic
[17:32] <FloodBot1> Mitizaro: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:32] <Mitizaro> flash game
[17:32] <Mitizaro> well some Slackware guy can open what i couldn't (but he also has newer PC)
[17:32] <ikonia> Mitizaro: if you are using vector linux why are you asking in #ubuntu about flash (apologies if I've missed the real meaning of your question)
[17:32] <rallosvan> Mitizaro: Flash in google chrome does work, i suspect the problem is elsewhre. What errors do you get, or can you link the site that fails?
[17:33] <bcuda_> adamu: 1 sec, it is rebooting
[17:33] <adamu> bcuda_, alright
[17:35] <phong_> can WINE run any windows softwares?
[17:35] <phong_> or it is limited
[17:35] <ikonia> phong_: exceptionally limited
[17:35] <ikonia> phong_: it is not something you should depend on as a solution
[17:35] <phong_> i c
[17:36] <DJones> phong_: It will run some, but not everything and even the ones it runs, it may not run properly
[17:36] <bcuda_> adamu: there is a lot of stuff in there, but not that one. there are two with nvidia in their name: nvidia-current-hybrid.conf and nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf
[17:36] <rallosvan> phong_: look up specific applications on http://appdb.winehq.org/ - most games work
[17:36] <phong_> oh well..prefer boot up if need to use windows :)
[17:36] <phong_> luckily i have multi os
[17:36] <ikonia> phong_: that's the best solution.
[17:37] <rallosvan> phong_: Which programs in particular?
[17:37] <adamu> bcuda_, Okay can you cat those files and put their contents on paste bin
[17:37] <bcuda_> ugh
[17:37] <bcuda_> how?
[17:38] <bekks> !pastebinit | bcuda_
[17:38] <bcuda_> Its just terminal
[17:38] <bcuda_> oh cool
[17:38] <Mitizaro> Well
[17:38] <Mitizaro> Flash in Google CHrome - i dont even get the plugin in extentsions -- i have chrome 12.0
[17:39] <Mitizaro> i mean -- i get BLACK SCREEN where the game should be
[17:39] <Mitizaro> (youtube runs with html5)
[17:39] <OerHeks> Mitizaro, chrome has its own flash buildin
[17:39] <bekks> Mitizaro: Chrome 12.0 is heavily outdated. the current version is 31.
[17:39] <rallosvan> Mitizaro: chrome 12? it's like up to 31?
[17:39] <wolfspy> lol
[17:39] <ikonia> Mitizaro: if you are using vector linux why are you asking in #ubuntu about flash (apologies if I've missed the real meaning of your question)
[17:39] <Mitizaro> i was interested in a good ubuntu for the purpose u know..
[17:39] <rallosvan> Mitizaro: your problem is chrome 12 not your distro
[17:39] <wolfspy> mabye bacause this channel has almost 2000 people in ti
[17:39] <wolfspy> it
[17:39] <ikonia> flash as an external package is dead though
[17:40] <wolfspy> I would update your chrome
[17:40] <ikonia> wolfspy: the number of people doesn't really matter, as we only deal with ubuntu here,
[17:40] <Mitizaro> i cant
[17:40] <Mitizaro> i mean i dunno how
[17:40] <Mitizaro> here its harder -- the official channel doesnt have newer version
[17:40] <adamu> I find the best way to install flash is to just download the tar ball from adobe
[17:40] <ikonia> adamu: no it's not, as that is "dead"
[17:40] <rallosvan> Mitizaro: download the current version from google to get the newest chrome.
[17:40] <adamu> ikonia, Oh it is?
[17:40] <Mitizaro> i did - i dunno how to install the tar.gz here in VLIN
[17:40] <leelondon> hi guys
[17:40] <wolfspy> ikonia:  on the support channel for his distro there may be no people active, but in this room people are always active
[17:40] <ikonia> adamu: yes, adobe stopped developing it in 2011
[17:41] <Mitizaro> and its CHROMIUM 31
[17:41] <adamu> ikonia, Oh.. Good to know :/
[17:41] <ikonia> wolfspy: so ? that doesn't mean this channel supports his distro
[17:41] <rallosvan> Mitizaro: Well that's a problem for your distro ... can't help there
[17:41] <Mitizaro> i know
[17:41] <Mitizaro> still - what is the best ubuntu
[17:41] <thai-2012> hello everyone! who can advice,... i need internet-radio player for Ubuntu
[17:41] <Mitizaro> for my specs?
[17:41] <rallosvan> Mitizaro: chromium is NOT chrome
[17:41] <bekks> Mitizaro: We dont know your specs.
[17:41] <Mitizaro> i know
[17:41] <leelondon> hi guys
[17:41] <Mitizaro> 2,4 ghz 1.3gb ddr 2
[17:41] <Mitizaro> nvidia 5900
[17:41] <wolfspy> ikonia: yes but that may be why he is the channel, for help with a linux applacation and not the actuall os
[17:41] <leelondon> any latest news for ubuntu
[17:41] <rallosvan> Mitizaro: 1.3GB?
[17:41] <ikonia> Mitizaro: there is no "best ubuntu for flah" - it's dead
[17:42] <Mitizaro> ram
[17:42] <ikonia> wolfspy: again - we don't deal with specific applications for his distro
[17:42] <Beldar> thai-2012, rhythmbox plays radio links
[17:42] <rallosvan> how do you have 1.3GB of ram?
[17:42] <Mitizaro> well
[17:42] <adamu> Anyone tried running flash with pipelight?
[17:42] <leelondon> i have 4.0 G r
[17:42] <Mitizaro> 512 chipset x 2 and one 256
[17:42] <Mitizaro> :D
[17:42] <Mitizaro> i know
[17:42] <Mitizaro> its weird but i have 3 slots
[17:43] <rallosvan> Mitizaro: yea you're OK, don't mind me
[17:43] <bekks> Mitizaro: Can you sum up your specs in one line please instead spreading them over ten lines?
[17:43] <thai-2012> Beldar yes i use rhythmbox. but there is 10-20 radio-stations. small. I need 1000+ radio stations in player.  help?
[17:44] <Mitizaro> AMD 2,4 GHZ (clocked to match 2,6GHZ) 1,3GB RAM DDR2,  Nvidia FX5900GT, 80gb HDD, Creative SoundBlaster LIVE! 5.1 -- 11 year old PC
[17:44] <bekks> Mitizaro: Then you could use lubuntu e.g.
[17:44] <Beldar> thai-2012, Not sure there is one myself.
[17:44] <Mitizaro> I used to have lubuntu and Xubuntu, but... games/media seemed kinda pfuked up
[17:44] <Mitizaro> for example if i want to put HON
[17:44] <ikonia> Mitizaro: control the language please, there is no need to try to swear
[17:45] <Mitizaro> the nvidia drivers and etc is hard deal..
[17:45] <bekks> Mitizaro: Then get more recent hardware.
[17:45] <Beldar> thai-2012, you can add to rhythmbox however.
[17:45] <bcuda_> adamu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6505273/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/6505270/
[17:45] <rallosvan> Mitizaro: I have a 5.1 --- it was better for me for recordign from my guitar; the newer cards were introducing audiolag due to drivers and I didnt see the point in buying a new sound card
[17:45] <Mitizaro> yea -- sound blaster rocks
[17:45] <Mitizaro> but the rest is quite old, i know -- if i could i WOULD be with quadriple AMD already ;)
[17:45] <thai-2012> Beldar thank you.
[17:45] <leelondon> any body use emacs?
[17:45] <bekks> !anyone | leelondon
[17:46] <adamu> bcuda_,  hey.. it looks like your best bet is going to be to remove the nvidia*.conf files in /etc/modprobe.d then delete the file generated by the nvidia-xconfig (/etc/X11/xorg.conf) then sudo rmmod nvidiaand reboot then try startx
[17:46] <rallosvan> Mitizaro: well there's nothing wrong with your system specs; your flash problem is related to your software stack
[17:46] <Mitizaro> i know
[17:46] <Mitizaro> but i was considering running wine and LOL or Heroes of Newerth -- so the most "gamey" OS is best -- Ubuntu and Mint come first to mind
[17:46] <Mitizaro> and i dunno if 10.04 is good, 10.10, 12.04... etc.
[17:47] <bekks> Mitizaro: 10.04 desktop is not supported anymore, if in doubt, use 12.04
[17:47] <rallosvan> Mitizaro: is HON still alive?
[17:47] <Mitizaro> yes
[17:47] <Mitizaro> heroes of newerth is linux based and still alive
[17:47] <rallosvan> wow
[17:47] <rallosvan> i went from hon to dota
[17:47] <rallosvan> well dots2
[17:47] <rallosvan> it's nice to know HON still lives
[17:48] <aPpYe> Mitizaro, you need CHROME, not chromium.
[17:48] <Mitizaro> but too heavy a system - would be a problem... or if i cant run the graphics that wouldnt be nice to
[17:48] <Beldar> Mitizaro, Your just chatting this is support, there are actually people asking for that.
[17:48] <Mitizaro> ...
[17:49] <jmgk> hi all
[17:49] <wolfspy> hi
[17:49] <Ashva> Hi, when I want to install some packages I get this Error: E: Internal Error, No file name for libc6. I'm using ubuntu 12.04  64bit but it seems libc6:i386 is installed and now I can not install any package. can some one help me on this?
[17:51] <marko-_-> how do i change the touchpad function for scrolling so it's not upside-down (when scrolling up the page does down, i want it when scrolling up that the page goes up)
[17:51] <adamu> bcuda_, any luck yet?
[17:51] <rallosvan> marko-_-: theres a checkbox in the mouse configuration
[17:51] <marko-_-> There are more, but not like this
[17:51] <marko-_-> i only have 2 finger slide and normal slide
[17:52] <marko-_-> normal slide is this what i just described
[17:52] <LtRipley> re
[17:52] <rallosvan> marko-_-: It's called 'true' or 'reverse', i dont rememer the name
[17:52] <bekks> Ashva: which command are you using?
[17:52] <marko-_-> rallosvan, i don't have a setting like that
[17:52] <imaginati0n> Has anyone tried out ubuntu touch?
[17:53] <jmgk> nope
[17:53] <Ashva> bekks: thanks for reply, apt-get install  [package name]
[17:53] <jmgk> ~touch
[17:53] <jmgk> !touch
[17:53] <rallosvan> marko-_-: OK on 13.10 i have a box called "natural scrolling" that reverses the direction of 2 finger swipe
[17:53] <jmgk> ^ imaginati0n
[17:53] <FloodBot1> jmgk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:53] <bekks> Ashva: apt-get install what....?
[17:53] <Ashva> bekks: apt-get install dialog
[17:53] <marko-_-> rallosvan, yes that's it. Natural scrolling is good, but when scrolling up, the site goes down. Which is weird, i never saw any OS behave like that. I want to make it when scrolling up the site goes up or whatever i'm viewing you know
[17:54] <Ashva> bekks: almost for every package I get thie message at the end
[17:54] <rallosvan> marko-_-: tick/untick that box called 'natural scrolling'
[17:54] <bcuda_> adamu: nope that gives me a nice black screen with no accepted input and highest brightness setting.
[17:54] <marko-_-> lol
[17:54] <marko-_-> rallosvan, thank, didn't occur to me :P
[17:54] <marko-_-> thanks*
[17:54] <bekks> Ashva: Then pastebin an example.
[17:54] <imaginati0n> I am thinking about installing it but i need to know if i can revert back to android?
[17:54] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: do you mind to take a look at this? http://pastebin.com/QC3wYKrY
[17:54] <adamu> bcuda_, so you removed the nvidia-*.conf files and /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[17:54] <LtRipley> i just rebootet my system after an upgrade to 13.10 and i cannot log into X anymore (i get the login screen and the mouse course moves, but clicking or pressing a key doesn't have an effect)
[17:55] <bcuda_> yes
[17:55] <adamu> bcuda_, what happens when you run startx?
[17:55] <bcuda_> how? I get no interface
[17:55] <Beldar> LtRipley, Are you using proprietary graphic drivers?
[17:56] <LtRipley> Beldar: no, not that i know of
[17:56] <Ashva> bekks: http://dpaste.com/1489338/
[17:56] <Beldar> LtRipley, nvidia perchance
[17:56] <LtRipley> and i got quite a few repetition of errors from systemd-udevd that it failed to execute udev_event
[17:56] <LtRipley> Beldar: i am using an onboard chipset by acer
[17:57] <rallosvan> that;s not graphics: i dont know what it is but it's not graphics driver
[17:57] <Calinou> acer does not make onboard chipsets
[17:57] <Calinou> intel and AMD do IGPs
[17:57] <Calinou> LtRipley, lspci | grep VGA
[17:57] <bekks> Ashva: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dpkg/+bug/983543
[17:57] <Beldar> LtRipley, You familiar with a nomodeset boot?
[17:57] <LtRipley> yes it is intel
[17:57] <adamu> bcuda_, do cntrl alt f1
[17:57] <LtRipley> Beldar: no, is that something i do in grub?
[17:57] <Beldar> !nomodeset | LtRipley yeah
[17:58] <rallosvan> SiS do onboard graphics as well, we have one old machine with a SiS vga
[17:58] <Calinou> no longer do since at least 10 years
[17:58] <bcuda_> adamu: nothing. but I can verify I get a slightly darker blackscreen if I lower the brightness via fn+down a couple times.
[17:58] <rallosvan> how can he have nomodeset problem if his mouse still responds? never mind, it's worht a try i guess
[17:58] <sarthor> HI, Using linux, I can not see arabic font in a properway. here is image, that shows the problem. Left side is OK. which on windows, Right is wrong which is linux.  http://picpaste.com/pics/Screenshot-1-l0CDS5b5.1385920516.png
[17:59] <bob_> .
[17:59] <LtRipley> Beldar: i am not sure that this is about graphics, everything looks fine, just nothing reacts to my input
[18:00] <Beldar> LtRipley, You did not state everything looks good till now?
[18:00] <LtRipley> Beldar: i could try to paste the tail of my dmesg, but it would takes some time, as i don't have X
[18:00] <bekks> LtRipley: dmesg | pastebin
[18:00] <bekks> LtRipley: One single command.
[18:01] <stderr> can someone help me
[18:01] <DUkanax> Hi, using ubuntu 13.10: one of my users has the problem that he can't unlock the screen after lock. when moving the mouse or pressing a key, the screen will come back to background, but then instead of showing the password dialog, it goes right back to black screen. At that point I have to force a reboot. any ideas?
[18:01] <bekks> stderr: Not without asking a specific question before.
[18:01] <rallosvan> sarthor: I don 't know about this, but are you absolutely sure you selected the correct language?
[18:01] <Beldar> stderr, Not without details to the channel.
[18:01] <adamu> bcuda_, Sorry Man - I got to go... If you arn't that deep into your install yet I would recommend reinstalling but if not hopefully someone can help you
[18:02] <adamu> Good bye everyone
[18:02] <stderr> i'm trying to setup a vagrant vm that is 64-bit and requires VT-x, inside a 32bit guest that is already a KVM host
[18:02] <stderr> i mean KVM guest
[18:02] <stderr> and came across this
[18:02] <stderr> VT-x is required to run 64bit guests. If you get that error message it means that the VT-x feature exists on your host, but is currently locked. You need to enable it in your host BIOS or, if that is already done, make sure that nothing else is already using it (e.g. Hyper-v).
[18:02] <LtRipley> bekks: ? i don't have a command called pastebin
[18:02] <stderr> now my question is, thit this KVM guest already hijack this VT-x feature
[18:02] <stderr> ?
[18:03] <bekks> LtRipley: Thats why I wrote pastebinit
[18:03] <sarthor> rallosvan: I am browsing Internet, and some websites are in Arabic language, so my browser can not show me in the right way. While, When I create some .pdf file having arabic text, Also this happen, the fonts not remain in the proper sequence.
[18:03] <Beldar> !pastebinit | LtRipley
[18:03] <bekks> LtRipley: Oh, sorry.I intended to write pastebinit.
[18:03] <rallosvan> stderr: you have a VM inside a VM, and you need the inner one to use 64bit VT-X while the outer one is 32bit?
[18:03] <stderr> exactly
[18:04] <bekks> stderr: thats not possible without using vmware workstation.
[18:04] <rallosvan> stderr: that sound you can hear is me running away :-
[18:04] <rallosvan> sarthor: what language is  your ubuntu set to?
[18:04] <gordonjcp> 17:24 < LtRipley> gordonjcp: i am not entirely new, i just don't mess with  configs that often since i have a steady job
[18:04] <gordonjcp> LtRipley: lolwut
[18:05] <rallosvan> gordonjcp: they frighten him and he believes that only nerds are able to tame them
[18:06] <LtRipley> actually i wrote init scripts from the scratch once, still i preferr not to get in the way of the OS if not necessary
[18:06] <sarthor> I am not exactly getting your questing. but my OS interface is English, While in the bowser there is, in firefox toolbar, view...character encoding---unicode-UTF-8
[18:06] <LtRipley> even without touching it i managed to lock myself out of X  now...
[18:06] <sarthor> rallosvan:
[18:06] <bekks> LtRipley: You should prefer to use the ways the OS is offering to you.
[18:07] <sarthor> let me paste with rallosvan name... I am not exactly getting your questing. but my OS interface is English, While in the bowser there is, in firefox toolbar, view...character encoding---unicode-UTF-8
[18:07] <LtRipley> bekks: isn't that the point i was trying to make?
[18:07] <bekks> LtRipley: No. You made the point you are trying to get out of the ways of the OS.
[18:07] <marcus> this has been easier for me than Winblows
[18:07] <bekks> LtRipley: At least thats what you said.
[18:08] <Beldar> marcus, Cool, do you need support?
[18:08] <LtRipley> bekks: it doesn't really matter. Either way people will say the troubles i have with linux are my own fault
[18:08] <LtRipley> b
[18:08] <marcus> not yet...I'm testing the xchat I just downloaded..thanx though  :-)
[18:09] <bekks> LtRipley: But following the ubuntu ways still gives you a supported system ;)
[18:09] <Danato> how can I fix this? http://pastebin.com/QC3wYKrY
[18:09] <GeeJee1970> Anyone experience to get pammount working on 12.04?
[18:09] <LtRipley> bekks: i try hard to do that
[18:09] <Danato> btw i dont understand the command, its for a bug test
[18:09] <LtRipley> bekks: it is not always easy to see the ubuntu ways
[18:09] <Beldar> GeeJee1970, State the issue to the channel for help in detail.
[18:09] <bekks> Danato: Ask the maintainer of that git repo.
[18:10] <bekks> LtRipley: Thats why we are trying to suggest things in here, like "use upstart as it is, dont use fancy GUIs, etc."
[18:10] <LtRipley> bekks: people will tell me 'run that command' or 'change that file' and other people will tell me later 'you shouldn't have done that'
[18:10] <Danato> bekks: who?
[18:10] <gordonjcp> LtRipley: I just kind of wonder why having a "steady job" precludes being able to understand config files
[18:10] <GeeJee1970> Pammount installed and configured, it does not show any mounted shares
[18:11] <bekks> Danato: The maintainer of the git repo
[18:11] <LtRipley> bekks: ... i never said i want a fancy gui, actually in #jack i have to justify myself if i want to use command line tools
[18:11] <Danato> bekks: and how can I know who is he?
[18:11] <LtRipley> gordonjcp: i used to have more time when i was a student
[18:12] <gordonjcp> LtRipley: I think you'll find most people involved in this sort of stuff have "steady jobs"
[18:12] <LtRipley> gordonjcp: i didn't intend to say otherwise
[18:13] <bekks> Danato: git.kernel.org is an pretty official repo... but in your case, I'd ask the one who suggested to run that command.
[18:13] <LtRipley> gordonjcp: i just got the vibe that i have to justify everything i want to do on a personal level
[18:13] <gordonjcp> LtRipley: not at all
[18:13] <gordonjcp> LtRipley: anyway, did you look at KXStudio?
[18:13] <Beldar> LtRipley, a vibe is a projection.
[18:14] <LtRipley> actually that vibe problem, and that sound problem are secondary now, as i can't login into x anymore
[18:14] <Beldar> LtRipley, The key here is just details is all.
[18:14] <bekks> LtRipley: why not? what did you do?
[18:15] <LtRipley> bekks: apt-get upgrade
[18:15] <bekks> LtRipley: That updates the package lists, it doesnt do anything else to your system.
[18:15] <bekks> LtRipley: -.- update does that, not upgrade.
[18:16] <bekks> LtRipley: So which packages got upgraded?
[18:16] <Danato> bekks: ok, ill do that, thanks
[18:16] <GeeJee1970> Installed Pammount on 12.04, can not get it working, mounts do not show up, server in network is visible; cannot be explored, Any suggestions?
[18:16] <LtRipley> i upgraded to 3.10
[18:16] <bekks> LtRipley: 3.10?
[18:16] <bekks> LtRipley: 3.10 of what?
[18:16] <LtRipley> 13.10
[18:16] <LtRipley> ubuntu
[18:16] <bekks> Which isnt possible using apt-get upgrade
[18:16] <Beldar> LtRipley, gnome 3 or a kernel?
[18:16] <LtRipley> bekks: then i am quite surprised
[18:17] <bekks> LtRipley: do-release-upgrade does that, e.g.
[18:17] <Beldar> LtRipley, did you add a ppa for gnome 3 3.10
[18:17] <bekks> LtRipley: So what exactly did you do, ignoring what you intended to do?
[18:17] <bekks> Beldar: No.
[18:17] <LtRipley> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6505438/ i hope i didn't make a typo when copying that url
[18:17] <bekks> Beldar: He upgraded to Ubuntu 13.10
[18:18] <bekks> LtRipley: thats dmesg.
[18:18] <LtRipley> Beldar: no, i was using mate before
[18:18] <Beldar> ah upgraded my mistake
[18:18] <LtRipley> bekks: then it is the right url
[18:18] <Beldar> LtRipley, Ah mate is not supported it's not in the repos.
[18:18] <bekks> LtRipley: And you have hardware errors regarding your harddisk.
[18:19] <LtRipley> that udev- errormessage was quite prominent during startup, i that it was related to my issue
[18:19] <Beldar> LtRipley, Is this mint?
[18:19] <bekks> LtRipley: You are not using Ubuntu, arent you?
[18:19] <LtRipley> no it is an ordinary ubuntu
[18:19] <bekks> Ubuntu 13.10 does not use systemd at all.
[18:19] <bekks> Which is what you are using.
[18:20] <LtRipley> bekks: take my word, it is ubuntu what i installed. Quite some time ago, though
[18:20] <bekks> LtRipley: I dont. I know for sure that Ubuntu isnt using systemd in 13.10
[18:20] <LtRipley> maybe systemd did make through a number of release updates
[18:21] <bekks> So you installed systemd using an PPA?
[18:21] <GeeJee1970> Installed Pammount on 12.04, can not get it working, mounts do not show up, server in network is visible; cannot be explored 'can't obtain share list from server', Any suggestions?
[18:21] <LtRipley> bekks: no i tried to stay away from PPAs as much as possible
[18:21] <bekks> LtRipley: Then how did you get systemd?
[18:21] <OerHeks> LtRipley, systemd does not work anymore, as you have been told.
[18:21] <gordonjcp> LtRipley: for a start, how did you even get jackd?
[18:21] <LtRipley> gordonjcp: i don't think this is about jackd anymore
[18:22] <gordonjcp> LtRipley: hm, okay
[18:22] <gordonjcp> LtRipley: perhaps it would be a good idea to stop at this point, have a cup of tea away from the computer, and a good long think about what exactly you're trying to achieve
[18:22] <LtRipley> bekks: i cannot tell you, i never cared too much about what happens in the background
[18:22] <Beldar> GeeJee1970, Pammount from where it's not in the repos?
[18:22] <bekks> LtRipley: Pastebin the output of the following commands please: lsb_release -a; uname -a; cat /etc/issue
[18:22] <bekks> LtRipley: if you didnt, you wouldnt have systemd now.
[18:23] <gordonjcp> LtRipley: it doesn't matter what sort of OS you're using, the most important thing is knowing when to turn the bloody thing off and stop messing with it, while you get your ideas straight
[18:23] <LtRipley> bekks: was it default at some point in ubuntu history?
[18:23] <GeeJee1970> beldar; I used the commandline: apt-get install
[18:23] <bekks> LtRipley: No, never.
[18:23] <LtRipley> bekks: that is odd
[18:23] <rallosvan> i have systemd on 13.10
[18:23] <Beldar> GeeJee1970, I don;t see it in the repos.
[18:24] <Beldar> !find Pammount
[18:24] <bekks> !find pam_mount
[18:24] <bekks> Beldar: There you go.
[18:25] <Beldar> ah not correctly spelled
[18:25] <LtRipley> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/650496/
[18:25] <bekks> LtRipley: wrong url
[18:25] <LtRipley> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6505496/ sorry
[18:26] <bekks> LtRipley: Thats only one of three outoputs asked for.
[18:26] <Beldar> still no pam_mount in my precise repos
[18:27] <LtRipley> bekks: no it is those three
[18:27] <bekks> LtRipley: Look at your paste then stop discussion it ;)
[18:27] <rallosvan> bekks: i have the same systemd-udev entries in my /var/log/dmesg on saucy
[18:28] <LtRipley> bekks: not easy with lynx, but you are right
[18:28] <NeoID> hi, is it recommended to use no partition, mbr or guid with mdadm raid?
[18:29] <GeeJee1970> Beldar: softwarecenter points to: http://pam-mount.sourceforge.net/
[18:29] <bekks> NeoID: You should always use partitions.
[18:29] <NeoID> bekks, mbr or guid?
[18:29] <bekks> NeoID: Doesnt matter.
[18:30] <LtRipley> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6505526/ next try
[18:30] <Beldar> GeeJee1970, Did you add a repo, libpam-mount, shows which pam_mount is part of. I don't have an answer, not everyone knows every app, however many we can find and help with if we get the correct details and app names is all.
[18:33] <GeeJee1970> Beldar: not to experienced with terminology here: I took from the Softwarecenter 'PAM module that can mount volumes for a user session-Libpam-mount', how can I link to a reference in the repository?'
[18:35] <Beldar> GeeJee1970, I don't have an answer to your actual issue, I was just not abpe to find pammount in the precise repo is all.
[18:35] <Beldar> able*
[18:36] <LtRipley> so i get it that systemd is not supposed to be me on my system, but does it actually have anything to do with me not being able to lock into X? or might that be a totally different problem?
[18:36] <bekks> LtRipley: Different issues most likely.
[18:37] <sruz25> Does anybody know if it's possible to have multiple shortcuts for things? I want XF86whatever(the media sound control key) for sound control AND super/win+arrow key for when I'm using keyboard w/o Fn or media keys
[18:37] <rallosvan> I am actually not sure systemd isn't supposed to be there - i've got it on all my boxes and i dont remember installing it
[18:38] <GeeJee1970> Beldar: NP.  Any suggestions how to effectively mount samba shares when using 12.04?
[18:38] <Beldar> GeeJee1970, Nah I have never used samba.
[18:38] <LtRipley> bekks: i wouldn't attribute it to me using mate, as this seems to happen before any VM is started
[18:39] <bekks> LtRipley: VMs are involved too?
[18:39] <LtRipley> sorry WM
[18:39] <GeeJee1970> Beldar: working via CFS?
[18:40] <bekks> LtRipley: When X isnt working, no WM may work - thats obvious.
[18:40] <Beldar> GeeJee1970, I use windows and linux, however they are on the same computer, I have no dea what cfs is.
[18:40] <LtRipley> bekks: i get GDM i just cannot enter or click anything
[18:40] <bekks> cfs is a Cluster File System
[18:41] <Beldar> GeeJee1970, I would concentrate on using the channel for help not me. ;)
[18:41] <LtRipley> bekks: or "gnome-shell --mode=gdm" as ps suggests
[18:41] <bekks> LtRipley: ?
[18:41] <jmgk> gu
[18:41] <bekks> LtRipley:  I cant follow those random statements, sorry.
[18:42] <UnnamedUser> Am i allowed /nick? I gotta fix my name
[18:42] <GeeJee1970> Any suggestions on how to effectively mount samba or CFS shares with 12.04?
[18:42] <OerHeks> LtRipley, ubuntu uses lightdm, so what linux version are you on?
[18:42] <LtRipley> bekks: i am saying that i get a gdm-like login screen, so I am not sure to say 'X is not working'
[18:42] <Beldar> !register | UnnamedUser
[18:42] <bekks> LtRipley: So X is working.
[18:43] <bekks> LtRipley: Most likely your WM isnt working.
[18:43] <UnnamedUser1942> Fixed
[18:43] <LtRipley> bekks: the login manager isn't working, if such things still exist
[18:43] <UnnamedUser1942> wait no
[18:43] <UnnamedUser1942> brb
[18:44] <LtRipley> OerHeks: Ubuntu 13.10  lsb_release suggests
[18:45] <bekks> LtRipley: you just said it is working.
[18:45] <LayAnotherBlock> Ajhh better
[18:45] <LtRipley> bekks: it loads, but it doesn't react to input
[18:45] <LtRipley> bekks: i cannot look inside whether it is x that fails to interpret my input or gdm is in some kind of halting state
[18:46] <bekks> LtRipley: then maybe systemd/udev isnt working.
[18:46] <LayAnotherBlock> Umn... I wanna install Ubuntu from Windows XP on a VM. How do i create a blank .iso to use as a blank virtual CD so i can burn the Installation files to it?
[18:46] <LtRipley> bekks: i thought you said i am not supposed to have systemd at all?
[18:46] <bekks> LayAnotherBlock: download the ubuntu iso, attach it to the vm, done.
[18:47] <LayAnotherBlock> No i mean do it inside the VM so i can do a dual boot
[18:47] <Beldar> LayAnotherBlock, You realize XP is less than 6 months for end of life?
[18:47] <rallosvan> LayAnotherBlock: You want a VM that dual boots 2 OS?
[18:47] <bekks> LayAnotherBlock: creating a blank iso is nonsense.
[18:47] <bcuda_> Can someone please explain to me the difference between xorg, xserver, x11, and wayland?
[18:48] <dondopa> They suck in their own little way
[18:48] <Beldar> bcuda_, This is support research it
[18:48] <LayAnotherBlock> rallosvan: Yes
[18:48] <bekks> !helpful | Beldar
[18:49] <rallosvan> LayAnotherBlock: Why would you want this? Why not just install 2 VMs? One OS in each?
[18:49] <Beldar> bekks, Explaining in detail all the differences is beyond this channels norm.
[18:49] <rallosvan> LayAnotherBlock: What is your use case for dual booting a VM into two OS?
[18:49] <Beldar> bekks, period
[18:50] <bekks> Beldar: a general explanation in two sentences would have been enough. no one asked for a in-depth explanation. period.
[18:50] <LayAnotherBlock> Cuz i wanna use the VM as a fake Real OS. I wanna prank people by thinking my Real OS is not Win8 but is a dual boot of WinXP Pro and Ubuntu haha
[18:50] <Beldar> bekks, As you should know that rarely happens.
[18:51] <rallosvan> LayAnotherBlock: but you can't get rid of the HOST OS, even in seamless mode. It wont work with virtualbox. which hypervisor are you uisng?
[18:51] <bekks> Beldar: I wont discuss your attitude anymore. period.
[18:52] <LayAnotherBlock> hypervisor?
[18:52] <LayAnotherBlock> Can i have the meaning of that?
[18:52] <bekks> rallosvan: seamless mode works fine with vbox.
[18:52] <Beldar> bekks, easy explanations are all over the web, they would nit be if if that was needed. And your attitude is not much different, look at the posts you have made, people who live in glass houses.
[18:52] <rallosvan> bekks: That's not what i said
[18:53] <bekks> Beldar: I am not afraid of my posts, but I am not going to waste my time again with reading you. Bye.
[18:53] <LayAnotherBlock> bekks: It only works after installing VBox Guest Additions which i have already done
[18:53] <Beldar> bekks, excellent, thanks. ;)
[18:54] <rallosvan> bekks: he want his VM to dual boot XP and ubuntu so he can "troll"people into thiking he isnt using win8. But that wont work becuase even in seamless mode you will see parts of the host. Which is what i was saying, never mind the actual difficulty of dual booting a VM
[18:54] <bekks> LayAnotherBlock: yes. thatsa expected.
[18:54] <LayAnotherBlock> Seriously...   I forgot... I can mount an iso containing the install files as a virtual disk!
[18:57] <LtRipley> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6505638/  this problem in .xsession-errors looks grave, but what ressource is it referring to?
[18:58] <LayAnotherBlock> What's Mythbuntu?
[18:58] <SwSavant> It's a myth.
[18:59] <rallosvan> LayAnotherBlock: That sort of question is easily answered via Google
[18:59] <LayAnotherBlock> Are u sure? I'm in the installation process. It gives me the choice of Lubuntu, Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Ebuntu and Mythbuntu
[18:59] <rallosvan> LayAnotherBlock: But I think it was some kind of attempt to build a TV box
[18:59] <SwSavant> Shh...
[19:00] <ms49-up> how to setup virual host on ubuntu
[19:00] <rallosvan> Mythbuntu is a myth really
[19:00] <LayAnotherBlock> Well what Desktop Environment does it use?
[19:00] <ms49-up> ubuntu 13.10
[19:00] <SwSavant> We dont.. talk about it .. *wink wink*
[19:00] <SwSavant> no I'm only kidding
[19:01] <bekks> ms49-up: apache virtual host? vbox vm?
[19:01] <LayAnotherBlock> What about Lubuntu? Its desktop environment?
[19:01] <bekks> LayAnotherBlock: lxde
[19:01] <rallosvan> lubuntu uses LXDE, it's a lightweight win7 type desktop
[19:01] <LayAnotherBlock> Which one uses Gnome Pannel 2?
[19:02] <ms49-up> bekks: apache virtual host  links on internet keep talking about this directory /etc/apache2/sites-available which does not exist on my system
[19:02] <bekks> LayAnotherBlock: no one.
[19:02] <bekks> LayAnotherBlock: gnome2 is basically dead,
[19:02] <rallosvan> i dont know about Edubuntu, but none of those uses others uses gnome panel 2 as standard, but you can load it on yourself after
[19:02] <LayAnotherBlock> damn...
[19:03] <rallosvan> LayAnotherBlock: gnome3 has a gnome2 "emulation" mode
[19:03] <LtRipley> bekks: i come to the idea that my problems didn't result from the upgrade at all (which was only halfly done weeks ago, and triggered again by my apt-get upgrade), but by fooling around with jack_control settings
[19:03] <LayAnotherBlock> I'll try Edubuntu
[19:03] <LtRipley> but again, this is an only mildly educated guess
[19:03] <xangua> LayAnotherBlock: or you can actually tell us what is what you want
 apache virtual host  links on internet keep talking about this directory /etc/apache2/sites-available which does not exist on my system
[19:05] <ms49-up> hi any one can help with apache virtual host on ubuntu 13.10
[19:05] <bekks> LtRipley: I strongly doubt that jackd kills your window manager.
[19:05] <bekks> !apache2 | ms49-up
[19:05] <bekks> !apache | ms49-up
[19:06] <ms49-up> apache 2.4
[19:06] <bekks> !info apache2
[19:06] <LayAnotherBlock> Mythbuntu installation errors are creepy!
[19:06] <LtRipley> bekks: i agree, that would be quite odd. But it is my best guess right now
[19:06] <bekks> ms49-up: there you go. :)
[19:07] <bcuda_> Is it possible to have graphics acceleration with nvidia  755M graphics cards?
[19:07] <LtRipley> bekks: did you see this paste of .xsession-errors, i am not sure how to read it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6505638/
[19:07] <bekks> bcuda_: yes.
[19:07] <choon> after install samba, I coudn't share my folder due to error "255 an smbd mat not running" can someone help?
[19:08] <ms49-up> is appache  and appache2 are diffrent things ?
[19:08] <LayAnotherBlock> What is the desktop environment of Xubuntu?
[19:08] <bekks> LtRipley: The X server on :1 is inavailable.
[19:08] <bcuda_> bekks: how? I've reinstalled ubuntu 12.04 it is fully uptoday what do I do now?
[19:08] <auronandace> LayAnotherBlock: xfce
[19:08] <bekks> bcuda_: Install the latest nvidia drivers from the ubuntu repos.
[19:08] <LtRipley> bekks: what is ':1'?
[19:09] <LayAnotherBlock> And what is it like?
[19:09] <bekks> LtRipley: "Display 1"
[19:09] <LtRipley> bekks: would the default be 0 or 1?
[19:09] <auronandace> LayAnotherBlock: try it and see, its my favourite (very customizable)
[19:09] <bekks> LtRipley: that depends on your setup.
[19:09] <fs1> To mount fat32 as rw I would write "sudo mount -t vfat -o umask=000 /dev/sda1 /mount/ESP" right???
[19:10] <Walex2> fs1: RW/RO and permissions are different things.
[19:10] <fs1> hmm.. so how do i get permissions to copy files to that mounted partition
[19:11] <fs1> if RW does not give me permissions
[19:11] <bekks> fs1: mount it as rw, and grant permissions.
[19:11] <Walex2> fs1: if you want proper permissions to yourself, use -o 'uid=....'
[19:11] <choon> after install samba, I coudn't share my folder due to error "255 an smbd mat not running" can someone help?
[19:11] <bekks> choon: So did you configure your samba and did you start it afterwards?
[19:12] <LayAnotherBlock> I keep getting an error: Cannot download the metalink and therefore the ISO. How do i fix?
[19:12] <bekks> LayAnotherBlock: By using another mirror.
[19:12] <stetho> Hi - can anyone tell me what I might be missing? If I type sudo do-release-upgrade ( or sudo do-release-upgrade -d as a test) in to a 13.04 server, I get "No new release found" - is there something else I have to do to get to 13.10?
[19:12] <bcuda_> bekks: is http://askubuntu.com/questions/325037/installing-nvidia-drivers-on-ubuntu-12-04 the way you'd recommend?
[19:13] <LayAnotherBlock> well this happens when i load the install for Ubuntu and hit Install
[19:13] <bcuda_> bekks: for a 755M? (the OP had a  630M)
[19:13] <choon> yess, I use this command "restart smbd" but I got message "unknown job"
[19:13] <bekks> bcuda_: No. I suggest: Install the latest nvidia driver from th ubuntu7 repo. Do not use any PPA if you dont need to.
[19:13] <bekks> !samba | choon
[19:14] <ms49-up> can any one tell me where can i find this folder "sites-available " if i have  LAMP installed
[19:15] <LayAnotherBlock> I need a blank cd... a virtual one...
[19:16] <SwSavant> ms49-up: Try the apache documentation? There's a wiki I believe or you might be able to get manual pages
[19:16] <bh> Where can I see per-package results for popcon? I'm thinking of dropping support for some old distros and I'd like to know if anyone is actually using the package
[19:16] <choon> bekks yes, I use this command "restart smbd" but I got message "unknown job"
[19:16] <fs1> "udo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/flash -o dmask=000,fmask=111" would not work, I need to use -o uid?
[19:16] <Danato> LayAnotherBlock: a blank virtual cd? lol wtf
[19:16] <bh> and http://popcon.ubuntu.com/main/ seems sort of broken
[19:16] <ms49-up> #Apachefriends
[19:16] <SwSavant> fs1: That might be 'sudo' ..
[19:17] <fs1> yeah sudo*
[19:17] <SwSavant> Ok just checking
[19:17] <SwSavant> Is there an error message that is meaningful?
[19:18] <fs1> You ask me?
[19:18] <SwSavant> Yes, sorry.
[19:18] <fs1> yeah i could not copy files to the mounted partition, it said i have no permissions
[19:19] <SwSavant> fs1: Can you read files? Did the mount work?
[19:19] <fs1> yeah but the mounted partition was empty
[19:20] <SwSavant> fs1: Were you expecting files there?
[19:21] <fs1> yeah but ubuntu does not seem to copy any files to the ESP...
[19:21] <bekks> fs1: then what was the mount command? what are the permissions? which command do you use to copy?
[19:22] <Danato> ran the command whatis git and I got this
[19:22] <Danato> git (1)              - the stupid content tracker
[19:22] <Danato> this thing is quite funny
[19:23] <SwSavant> bekks: it is above
[19:23] <bekks> SwSavant: we dont know wether it is still the command used.
[19:23] <shadows> Danato: interesting find :)
[19:24] <Danato> shadows: lol im not sure if they published it on purpose or someone was trolling and forgot to erase it
[19:24] <shadows> fs1: you could try 'pmount' if your objective is to mount and access files as a user
[19:25] <Ashva> bekks: I check the page but it didn't solve the problem
[19:26] <shadows> Danato: it sounds like something Linus or another git developer would do because "documentation is for other people to do" and then it just never got updated;   I think if you wanted to submit a patch and attach to a bug report it would probably get fixed and just that no one has done it yet
[19:27] <fs1> i used "sudo mount -t vfat -0 umask=000 /dev/sda1 /mount/ESP"
[19:27] <jmgk> hi all
[19:27] <fs1> maybe "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/flash -o dmask=000,fmask=111" would work?
[19:28] <LtRipley> re
[19:28] <choon> ubottu: I had follow the instruction but after install samba, I coudn't share my folder due to error "255 an smbd mat not running" can someone help?
[19:28] <Danato> shadows: then knock yourself out, I dont know what "the stupid content tracker" was supposed to be. thats why i used the command in the first place
[19:28] <LtRipley> bekks: don't ask me why, but 'apt-get remove gnome-shell' solved the problem
[19:28] <PresidentObama> Ubuntu is cool.
[19:28] <jmgk> hey pr
[19:29] <jmgk> hey PresidentObama
[19:29] <PresidentObama> Hello.
[19:29] <SwSavant> Cool the president is here.
[19:29] <PresidentObama> The United States supports Linux.
[19:29] <Danato> is this some kind of conspiracy?
[19:29] <LtRipley> bekks: i didn't use it before and the upgrade probably installed it and it didn't work
[19:29] <Danato> :P
[19:30]  * shadows applauds
[19:31] <shadows> a .255 /32 ? c'mon.
[19:31] <pero> i have policykitd bringing down my entire system right now at >15 load - what gives?
[19:31] <LtRipley> ikonia: what if it was the real president?
[19:31] <shadows> LtRipley: moving on...
[19:32] <chack> Hi all
[19:32] <shadows> question of my own for us here, any KVM virtual manager users?
[19:32] <ikonia> shadows: just ask the real question
[19:33] <shadows> that is the question
[19:33] <ikonia> shadows: "yes I use it"
[19:34] <shadows> ah, what is your use case?  just curious to know
[19:34] <ikonia> my "use case" ?
[19:34] <shadows> another *nix guest, is it for development or legacy apps?
[19:34] <shadows> some other type of OS?
[19:34] <ikonia> I use it in various enviornments for a wide scope of enviornments
[19:35] <jmgk> hi all
[19:35] <jmgk> Is there a 64bit version of Xchat?
[19:35] <ikonia> jmgk: the version in the 64bit repos is 64bit
[19:35] <chack>   tell me please, what is the minimum hardware required for UE 3.4?
[19:35] <jmgk> oh I see
[19:35] <bekks> chack: What is "UE"?
[19:36] <jmgk> sorry I'm new to Ubuntu
[19:36] <ikonia> chack: that is not a supported distro in ubuntu - i'ts not an official ubuntu release
[19:36] <ikonia> jmgk: no need to be sorry
[19:36] <chack> ubuntu 12.04
[19:36] <ikonia> chack: 12.04 is not UE - they are quite different
[19:36] <jmgk> ok
[19:37] <blaked> Anyone know how to get the "prlimit" command on precise? Or how to change process limits on a running process without it
[19:37] <ikonia> blaked: is there an interface in /proc or /sys ?
[19:38] <blaked> ikonia: yes - tried echoing to it, but am getting an error which I can't find any solutions to despite an hour of googling like crazy :)
[19:38] <blaked> /bin/echo -n "Max open files=4000:5000" > /proc/6885/limits # returns write error: invalid argument
[19:38] <ikonia> blaked: you need to do it as root
[19:38] <blaked> ikonia: am definitely root
[19:39] <ikonia> blaked: what's actually in that file
[19:39] <kexibq> guys, is there a way to change tweak or completely swap the alt-tab behaviour in 12.04 unity? It is very slow for me.
[19:40] <AssociateX> Hello Earthlings!
[19:40] <shadows> kexibq: yes.   I will note that I myself haven't found an ALT-TAB behavior that I like yet
[19:40] <blaked> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/8gmNEd7Z
[19:41] <kexibq> shadows: the elementary os one is exquisite
[19:41] <AssociateX> I just tried to install Opera but apt-get and synaptic don't find it. What is the proper way to install, and why doesn't it just install?
[19:41] <ikonia> blaked: yeah, so you can't "overwrite" (note you are doing echo > file) like that
[19:42] <OerHeks> AssociateX, use the download from their site
[19:42] <chack> какое минимальное оборудование необходимо для Ultimate Edition 3.4?
[19:42] <OerHeks> http://www.opera.com/download/guide/?os=linux
[19:43] <kexibq> chack: In english, please
[19:43] <blaked> ikonia: seems to work for some people. also the "prlimit" command supposedly replaced the echoing-to-proc approach http://serverfault.com/questions/201207/set-max-file-limit-on-a-running-process
[19:43] <AssociateX> OerHeks, funny, but I was already doing that. Why is not just part of a regular install though.
[19:43] <chack> Sorry. what is the minimum equipment necessary for the what is the Ultimate Edition 3.4?
[19:43] <shadows> kexibq: briefly there's a Unity component you can control with compizconfig-settings-manager (ccsm) and that also has alternatives for task switchers
[19:44] <OerHeks> AssociateX, good point, browser choice menu á la windows
[19:44] <DJones> chack: Thats not supported in this channel, this channel only supports the official releases of Ubuntu
[19:45] <pfifo> hello world
[19:47] <shadows> [62872.809088] type=1400 audit(1385927205.568:76): apparmor="DENIED" operation="capable" parent=1 profile="/usr/sbin/libvirtd" pid=1281 comm="libvirtd" pid=1281 comm="libvirtd" capability=29  capname="audit_write"
[19:47] <shadows> so, usb-passthrough not working on qemu kvm guest
[19:47] <shadows> how to figure out why?
[19:47] <shadows> it appears to be apparmor related
[19:47] <pfifo> shadows: are you running kvm as root?
[19:48] <shadows> pfifo: virsh as regular user then "start <machinename>"
[19:48] <shadows> err.. how to tell and answer your question better?
[19:48] <cjelfe> hello everyone, can someone please help me about a question relating to how IRC works, if this is not off-topic?
[19:49] <AssociateX> How can I installed Opera with synaptic or apt-get?
[19:49] <auronandace> cjelfe: i'm sure #freenode can help
[19:49] <pfifo> cjelfe: you should ask in #freenode
[19:49] <cjelfe> all right, thank you :)
[19:50] <pfifo> shadows: I guess you must be using some gui or cli frontend to kvm
[19:50] <bcuda_> Please help: http://pastebin.com/iLcxWS2s
[19:50] <OerHeks> AssociateX, use the download from their site, it will add a repository
[19:50] <shadows> ps aux | less ;  /kvm;  kvm-irqfd-clean is running as root, qemu-system-x86_64 is running as user 115
[19:51] <shadows> pfifo: okay, have you got usb passthrough working before (and how?)
[19:51] <AssociateX> OerHeks, thank you, got it down.
[19:52] <OerHeks> AssociateX, double click it, or use sudo dpkg -i /path/to/opera.deb
[19:54] <hassen> VIVA LINUX
[19:54] <pfifo> shadows: yes, buy running qemu like this `sudo kvm --stuff` instead of like this `kvm --stuff`
[19:55] <shadows> pfifo: interesting, okay
[19:55] <shadows> pfifo: am still curious to know how to tell apparmor to sod off
[19:55] <dougl> hassen, viva linux!
[19:55] <pfifo> sod off? this is an english channel shadows
[19:56] <shadows> to "go away"
[19:56] <shadows> or just be more permissive
[19:56] <pfifo> shadows: uninstall it?
[19:56] <shadows> do you know, would uninstalling apparmor break the Ubuntu system?
[19:57] <pfifo> shadows: Ive never tried, dont do it if you dont know how to fix it
[19:58] <shadows> pfifo: thanks for talking anyways
[19:59] <shadows> the answer is to make sure the USB mode is "USB 2" for some unrelated reason
[19:59] <shadows> your suggestions were a bit off, sorry!
[20:02] <cyx^> can someone suggest a printer model that works great on ubuntu 64bit?
[20:03] <xangua> !printer | cyx^
[20:03] <CookieM> hps work fine
[20:06] <hisham> What better [[ backtrack System ]] Or [[kali_linux ]] ??
[20:07] <bekks> hisham: Neither nor is supported in here.
[20:09] <remoteCTRL> has any of you domsticated the firefox and chromium dragon?
[20:09] <remoteCTRL> meaning the RAM issue...?
[20:10] <ianorlin> RAM issue?
[20:10] <remoteCTRL> yeah... try and open like more than 10 tabs...
[20:10] <remoteCTRL> possibly with farcebook or youtube...
[20:12] <ianorlin> yes it uses a lot of ram
[20:12] <mcuserubu> got some issue with R.E.M...
[20:12] <cyx^> try dwb
[20:14] <gome> how much of swap memory i have to give .
[20:14] <bekks> Depends on what you want to do.
[20:15] <auronandace> gome: if you want to be able to hibernate it has to be slightly more than your ram
[20:15] <gome> my ram is 1 gb , 80 gb hard drive.
[20:15] <bekks> gome: And you are using vbox?
[20:16] <gome> yes.
[20:17] <bcuda_> Is there a way to force a (virtual) terminal to open up under unity if unity crashes and isn't responding to ctrl+alt+backspace?
[20:18] <OerHeks> ubuntu does not use ctrl alt backspace, by default.
[20:18] <OerHeks> !reisub
[20:18] <adamu> hello
[20:19] <gome> bekks: so any solution
[20:19] <bcuda_> ctrl+alt+t . nevermind
[20:19] <Calinou> I've tried using alt+print screen+R then do Ctrl+Alt+F1 to get to a TTY today, did not work
[20:19] <bcuda_> OerHeks: how do you logout from ubuntu from terminal?
[20:20] <bcuda_> exit would just close the virtual terminal session
[20:20] <OerHeks> bcuda_, i don't,i use the gui
[20:20] <bcuda_> right but Unity crashed
[20:20] <bcuda_> so there is no logout / reboot option
[20:21] <bcuda_> 13.04 i think
[20:21] <pfifo> remoteCTRL: I can easilly open 50 tabs in chromium, I have 2GB of system memory
[20:21] <adamu> pfifo, lol
[20:22] <yeats> bcuda_: Ctrl-Alt-F1 (through F6) will bring you to a TTY, you can then do 'sudo restart lightdm'
[20:22] <pfifo> adamu: what?
[20:22] <bcuda_> that does it work
[20:22] <bcuda_> OH! gnome-session-quit is listed
[20:22] <bcuda_> that works
[20:23] <adamu> pfifo, "I can easilly open 50 tabs in chromium, I have 2GB of system memory"
[20:23] <remoteCTRL> pfifo: i have 4 gigs of ram and my swap ais always engaged, i have 1 chromium window open with 36 tabs and like 5 firefox windwos with a total of mabe 50 tabs...
[20:24] <adamu> pfifo, nvm
[20:24] <pfifo> letme clarify, I have just 2gb of memory, yet even with this limitation i can open many more than 10 tabs
[20:24] <remoteCTRL> and NOTHING ELSE!!
[20:25] <pfifo> remoteCTRL: do you use flash?
[20:25] <Beldar> remoteCTRL, You can change the swappiness
[20:25] <remoteCTRL> pfifo: sure do, as said es specially farcebook and youtube are a pain int the ...
[20:25] <remoteCTRL> Beldar: how would i dop that?
[20:26] <pfifo> remoteCTRL: ahh, drop support for flash
[20:26] <remoteCTRL> and what the heck is a swappiness ?
[20:26] <remoteCTRL> pfifo: how do i watch youtube vids then? :D
[20:26] <bekks> remoteCTRL: swappiness is the tendency to swap. The higher the value, the more the system wants to swap.
[20:26] <Calinou> youtube-dl *cough*
[20:26] <pfifo> remoteCTRL: html5 or maybe, drop things that support flash along with dropping flash itself
[20:27] <remoteCTRL> i installed this thing called memory purge but i have to do it manually every few minutes, otherwise the RAM is full again...
[20:27] <Foxhoundz> Is Realtek RTL8190 802.11n WLAN supported?
[20:27] <adamu> html5 is awesome
[20:27] <Foxhoundz> I just bougit it
[20:27] <Foxhoundz> it's an internal WLAN card
[20:27] <Foxhoundz> but it's not being detected by Ubuntu
[20:27] <Foxhoundz> shows up in lspci though
[20:28] <Beldar> remoteCTRL, On this page look at checking To check the swappiness value https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[20:28] <pfifo> why would someone want to watch 50 youtube videos at once anyway?
[20:28] <adamu> pfifo, Why wouldn't you?
[20:28] <surxenberg> hello folks
[20:28] <remoteCTRL> pfifo: well i would not, that exactly being the point you know?
[20:29] <adamu> surxenberg, hello
[20:29] <linuxuz3r> guys i see so many process running on my ubuntu installation can someone help me clean it up
[20:29] <remoteCTRL> i do alot of recherche, so i keep opening tabs to watch later, and for some not so clear reason those "clever" softwares keep opening up flash parties on every single tab until the whole system is prone to swap :D
[20:30] <Beldar> remoteCTRL, Not to interrupt your conversation with pfifo but you have to use the computer within hardware limitations if you want ease of use, that is there point.
[20:30] <Foxhoundz> :(
[20:31] <surxenberg> anyone with an apple keyboard here? i'd like to use the exact same layout Apple uses (i have swiss german keyboards and the IBM PC default layouts are really cumbersome for programming, Apple's layouts are much better). is anyone here who's familiar with apple keyboards /layouts under GNOME?
[20:32] <remoteCTRL> Beldar: that is of course one nice load of partonizing BS, cos you know, i really really dont see any reason why anybody would wanna play 50 vids at once, for example also if you need to reopen your browser you know?
[20:32] <remoteCTRL> that is simply a very bad design flaw
[20:32] <Beldar> remoteCTRL, Hey your attitude is so pretty, good luck trying to get any help here.
[20:32] <remoteCTRL> firefox actually has a load tabs on demand checkbox, but that doesnt work in a manner iw would wish for...
[20:33] <remoteCTRL> Beldar: ya, thanks for the link tho... ;)
[20:34]  * Beldar loves idiots
[20:34]  * surxenberg loves cats
[20:34] <gordonjcp> cats ftw
[20:34]  * adamu is talking in third person
[20:34] <Foxhoundz> looks like it's not supported
[20:34] <Foxhoundz> the vendor is TEW-643pi
[20:34] <Foxhoundz> Any leads on getting this to work with Ubuntu would be helpful
[20:34] <Foxhoundz> vendor model*
[20:34] <pfifo> id like to watch 50 cat videos at once
[20:34] <FloodBot1> Foxhoundz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:34] <surxenberg> i hate my logitech bluetooth mouse though
[20:35] <Walex2> remoteCTRL: that sort of works, but there are bugs with some popular addons
[20:35] <Walex2> remoteCTRL: in particular it does not work with the session manager of Tab Mix Plus.
[20:35]  * Beldar pets his cat snowbelle and laughs in a sinister way
[20:35] <smaudet> Hey all, I have a weird bug...my Nvidia server keeps crashing whenever I use Google Chrome to visit www.google.com
[20:36] <smaudet> Any clues?
[20:36] <pfifo> Foxhoundz: ther is ndiswrapper
[20:36] <yorwos-pc> hi all
[20:36] <smaudet> Oh and my Nvidia drivers are fairly up-to-date, there is a new version I'm currently downloading/installing
[20:36] <remoteCTRL> Walex2: i somewhat does, but i haven't quite figured out, what criteria it applies to open or drop tabs...
[20:37] <yorwos-pc> could some1 guide me hot to use a firewire audio card with ardour on ubuntu studio 13.10 ??? it seems to be recognisable from ffado-mixer
[20:37] <remoteCTRL> anyways chromium lacks this function, so you have to ressort to something like tab memory purge
[20:38] <remoteCTRL> which is cumbersome if you have to trigger it manually each time your prone to swapping again...
[20:39] <Megabyte> You know, bindfs is quite useful to protect my disk, allowing only certain areas to be written...
[20:39] <smaudet> brb installing driver
[20:41] <Walex2> Megabyte: you can use AppArmor or similar for that...
[20:42] <Megabyte> Walex2, What is AppArmor, and how do I use it?
[20:43] <Walex2> Megabyte: it is the security protection system used by Ubuntu and other distros... Look at '/etc/apparmor.d/' for typical rule files
[20:43] <Walex2> Megabyte: also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppArmor
[20:43] <WeThePeople> there is a funtion in gnome3 desktop manager that when the cursor is moved  or " touches" the top left side of the screen it opens up a extension. what is the name of the extensions?
[20:45] <xangua> WeThePeople: is not an extension, it's built in
[20:46] <linuxuz3r> how do i stop processes in ubuntu so that it doesnt start again when i stop it
[20:46] <Megabyte> Walex2, it looks a bit *too* complex. I wish there was an intuitive gui to configure that.
[20:47] <xangua> linuxuz3r: sounds like you want to stop a daemon, explain what you want to do
[20:47] <bekks> !upstart | linuxuz3r
[20:48] <WeThePeople> xangua, do you know what the function is called?
[20:56] <param_> hey
[20:57] <bs123> hi
[20:57] <linuxuz3r> xangua sometimes when i kill an app it starts again
[20:57] <param_> Hello Folk, my speaker and webcam  don't work on ubuntu 12.04
[20:57] <linuxuz3r> i want to kill a process so that it stops running when i kill it
[20:57] <linuxuz3r> i do want it to start when i boot
[20:57] <Beldar> param_, Have you tried the cheese app for the camera?
[20:58] <param_> cheese app , no
[20:58] <Beldar> param_, Try that to see if it works, what is the context of these not working?
[20:59] <param_> thanks, webcam working now
[20:59] <Beldar> param_, Cool.
[20:59] <linuxuz3r> xangua, still there
[20:59] <param_> what about speakers ?  and if i use earphone, the sound is very less, earphones working fine with my mobile
[21:00] <Beldar> param_, this using skype?
[21:00] <param_> shall i come on skype ?
[21:00] <Beldar> param_, No for me, just trying to isolate the context here?
[21:00] <param_> ok
[21:01] <param_> give ur skype id
[21:01] <Beldar> param_, I would not do that from here honestly, and I'm minutes from lunch with my mother.
[21:01] <bekks> param_: this is irc, not skype :)
[21:02] <param_> ok :)
[21:02] <jmgk> lol
[21:02] <jmgk> param_,  stop ping me for Skype
[21:02] <jmgk> ~ops
[21:02] <jmgk> !ops
[21:03] <jmgk> sorry if i did that but param_  keeps on messaging me for Skye id
[21:03] <jmgk> If someone is willing to step in?
[21:03] <k1l> !pm | param_
[21:03] <param_> bekks can you help me fixing my issue,   my laptop speaker not working?  and if i use earphone, the sound is very less, earphones working fine with my mobile
[21:03] <Calinou> jmgk, /mode +g
[21:03] <jmgk> oh
[21:03] <param_> hey  jmgk
[21:03] <Calinou> disallows PMs unless you accept them with /accept
[21:04] <Calinou> also, /ignore
[21:04] <param_> what happened ? i didnt did anything , i am not pinging you
[21:04] <jmgk> eh
[21:04] <jmgk> just ignored
[21:04] <k1l> jmgk: best is to /ignore the user. we cant judge outside our ubuntu channels. if that is an ongoing problem please ask the staffers for help in #freenode
[21:05] <jmgk> thanks Calinou
[21:05] <jmgk> ok
[21:06] <linuxuz3r> what is dnsmasq for
[21:08] <pvl1> is wine supposed to have like a lot of deps
[21:08] <param_> help me fixing my issue,   my laptop speaker not working?  and if i use earphone, the sound is very less,
[21:09] <pvl1> param_: run alsamixer in a terminal
[21:10] <sianh> guys, I'm trying to install ffmpeg, but when trying to do so it also wants to install nvidia drivers, I do not own a nvidia card, and installing the drivers crash my sytem
[21:10] <Walex2> pvl1: yes
[21:10] <pvl1> Walex2: blahhh i just removed like half of these
[21:10] <Modrick> Hey which channel can I go to for discussing ubuntu touch?
[21:10] <Walex2> pvl1: if you used an APT front-end you should not havr been able to do that.
[21:11] <k1l> Modrick: #ubuntu-touch is the channel
[21:11] <Modrick> Okay thanks. I was unable to retrieve the channel list
[21:11] <Walex2> pvl1: anyhow it is very esy using something like 'aptitude' to get them back.
[21:11] <pvl1> Walex2: i know. more importntly am i gonna break anything patching the sourceforge 1.7 over the apt 1.6?
[21:11] <linuxuz3r> what is dnsmasq for
[21:12] <pvl1> sianh: why are you installing ffmpeg
[21:12] <sianh> pvl1, to convert videos to gifs
[21:13] <Walex2> pvl1: depends.... Anyhow consider looking into bsckports, or paying some money for Crossover Office
[21:13] <pvl1> Walex2: im broke. bsckports you say, ill check it out
[21:13] <pvl1> sianh: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/07/qgifer-converts-video-to-gif-supports.html
[21:14] <sianh> thank you pvl1, I hope it supports ogv
[21:14] <pvl1> sianh: in any case, how are you install ffmpeg that it requires the nvidia driver? i just checked and that is not a dep
[21:15] <stetho> Hi - can anyone tell me what I might be missing? If I type sudo do-release-upgrade ( or sudo do-release-upgrade -d as a test) in to a 13.04 server, I get "No new release found" - is there something else I have to do to get to 13.10?
[21:15] <pvl1> stetho: apt-get update
[21:15] <k1l> stetho: what does "lsb_release -r" give you?
[21:15] <pvl1> stetho: and enable the repos
[21:16] <sianh> pvl1, apt-get install ffmpeg
[21:16] <pvl1> sianh: thats very odd. maybe nvidia is flagged for isntall by something else
[21:18] <stetho> apt-get update has ben run, lsb_release -r give 13.04 and what repos?
[21:18] <sianh> pvl1, but it's just with ffmpeg, for example, gnome-shell doesn't ask me for nvidia, it's really weird
[21:19] <pvl1> sianh: i would try using aptitude in this case
[21:19] <sianh> pvl1, same thing
[21:19] <pvl1> sianh: you cant deselect the nvidia driver and force install?
[21:19] <gianko> hi guys, I am trying to recompile apache2 in ubuntu 12.04.3 with DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nostrip. it fails and it seems nostrip is not supported yet. Do you have any pointer to start from?
[21:20] <sianh> pvl1, no, or at least I can't in the first 5 possible solutions
[21:21] <sianh> pvl1, but let me try later, the ppa for qgifer also has ffmpeg packages(I assume they are newer than those that come with ubuntu)
[21:21] <param_> my laptop is not working on ubuntu 12.04
[21:21] <pvl1> Walex2: half of them are nto deps, just recom
[21:21] <param_> my laptop speaker is not working on ubuntu 12.04
[21:22] <pvl1> param_: run alsamixer in terminal, check your settings there
[21:23] <trism> gianko: going to have to be more specific about how it fails, it uses dh_strip so it should work
[21:23] <trism> gianko: although we also have apache2-dbg which is where the stripped symbols go if you just need symbols
[21:24] <param__> i have ran alsamixer command, it looks fine
[21:25] <KalleAnka123> hello
[21:25] <pvl1> param__: checked the mutes?
[21:25] <gianko> trism: so, in the logs I see that the problem starts here make[1]: *** [override_dh_strip] Error 1#
[21:25] <trism> gianko: can you pastebin the whole error?
[21:25] <gianko> trism: I will check that, tnx
[21:25] <freannrak> I'm stuck figuring out how to change trackpoint sensitivity on my folio 9470m running 12.04. I've tried gpointing-device-settings, ubuntus default cpanel mouse settings and now command line, but nothing seems to be working: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/41cf895517a71bebdf23
[21:26] <param__> how to check mutes ? sound is coming on earphone.. but on earphone also the sound is very less
[21:26] <gianko> trism: let's do that first I have a look at apache2-dbg, in case of problems I will come back :)
[21:28] <param__> how to check mutes pvl1
[21:28] <Vedrit> Can anyone help me with a Mono/ASP.net issue? No one seems to be active in the HTTPD or Mono channels
[21:30] <gianko> prism: is there and -dbg for apache2? I have seen only packages for saucy and trusty
[21:30] <trism> gianko: oh hmm, might be a new thing, now that you mention it
[21:32] <pvl1> param__: the highlights torwards the bottom of each colum, hit m to toggle them
[21:32] <trism> gianko: we do however still have dbgsym packages on ddebs for other versions: http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/main/a/apache2/
[21:32] <param__> yes its fine pvl1
[21:32] <Vedrit> No one seems to be active here either, unless my phone is acting up
[21:32] <param__> its not muted
[21:32] <bekks> Vedrit: Some hundred people ae in here.
[21:32] <trism> gianko: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash#Debug_Symbol_Packages
[21:33] <gianko> trism: great! :)
[21:34] <pvl1> param__: what are you playing music with
[21:35] <param__> vlc , song on vlc player, and youtube
[21:35] <pulsar78> my dns is set at <IP_ADDRESS>, although im using dhcp..why ?
[21:36] <param__> earphone were working fine till yesterday, today earphone volume on ubuntu is less
[21:36] <matachi> :quit
[21:36] <bekks> pulsar78: BEcause you areusing dnsmasq
[21:37] <pulsar78> bekks: thanks
[21:37] <solcyto> helllo
[21:37] <pvl1> param__: what ubuntu are you running
[21:37] <param__> 12.04
[21:38] <pulsar78> bekks: do i need dnsmasq ?
[21:38] <bekks> pulsar78: Yeah, it doesnt hurt.
[21:38] <solcyto> necesito ayuda
[21:38] <bekks> pulsar78: If you want to change your DNS, set it in network manager.
[21:39] <pulsar78> bekks: not really, i just want it to properly display dns delivered by dhcp
[21:40] <bekks> pulsar78: Why?
[21:40] <pvl1> param__: look into https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/pavucontrol/
[21:40] <TonyAldo> I created a pgp key using ubuntus built in key manager now is there anyway to encrypt a file using that key?
[21:41] <pulsar78> bekks: i'd like to run a tight ship.
[21:41] <param__> pvl1,   i think there is no drivers for speaker ? subwoofer option don't work in sound settings, its disables
[21:41] <pvl1> param__: highly unlikely. are you on a laptop?
[21:42] <donttrustem> I am running lucid and want to install this libminiupnpc-dev  but apt-get does find it
[21:42] <bekks> pulsar78: I dont get that. Why is it vital to see the dns server in a config file?
[21:42] <param__> yes on laptop
[21:43] <param__> the subwoofer option is disabled
[21:43] <pvl1> param__: does your laptop have a subwoofer?
[21:43] <param__> internal speaker i mean :/
[21:44] <pvl1> donttrustem: do you know in which repo its in? you might need to enable backports or what not
[21:44] <matachi>
[21:44] <donttrustem> pvl1: no idea :S
[21:45] <donttrustem> pvl1: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/getdeb_games/lucid/games/getdeb/libminiupnpc-dev  found here
[21:45] <donttrustem> just going it  use the .deb
[21:46] <samgabbay> hi im unable to log into my account on xubuntu 13.10 it accepts my passwords but il go right back to the login screen
[21:46] <pvl1> param__: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[21:47] <pulsar78> bekks: its confusing, i dont get why dnsmasq would be a relevant service
[21:47] <pvl1> param__: if it is a driver issue you need to find out what driver your laptop uses. lsmod will list enabled drivers
[21:47] <samgabbay> i cant login at all on xubuntu :/
[21:47] <bekks> pulsar78: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dnsmasq
[21:47] <solcyto> hello
[21:47] <adamu> solcyto, hello
[21:47] <pvl1> samgabbay: did you update recently or is this a fresh install
[21:48] <donttrustem> pvl1: crap .. it has dependencies …. do you know what repo it will be in?
[21:48] <samgabbay> pvl1: its a fresh installed i updated my fglrx graphics and now it keeps doing that
[21:48] <gianko> trism: just to see whether I got it right... after I added ddebs repos, let's say I need symbols and to pass other flags to gcc, e.g. DEB_CFLAGS_APPEND="-finstrument-functions".. I recompile the -dbgsym package et voila, would you say so?
[21:48] <pvl1> donttrustem: nope, but hold on ill look into it
[21:48] <param__> pvl1,  the sound on earphones are coming,   so can it be driver problem ?
[21:48] <samgabbay> im trying to go back to the open source drivers
[21:48] <donttrustem> thanks ...
[21:48] <solcyto> soy de argentina necesito ayudaaaaaaa¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡
[21:48] <solcyto> adamu
[21:48] <bekks> solcyto: #ubuntu-es
[21:48] <sergiobenrocha2> hello
[21:49] <sergiobenrocha2>  i would want to know what means pkg-temp-0-virtual-0 and acpitz-virtual-0, in lm-sensors reading
[21:49] <pulsar78> bekks: i know what it does =), i want to remove it, because i see no purpose of having it installed on a client, or am i wrong here ?
[21:49] <pvl1> donttrustem: just gimme a few minutes
[21:49] <donttrustem> OK
[21:49] <pvl1> samgabbay: please private message me
[21:49] <donttrustem> no problem
[21:49] <solcyto> pero donde pongo eso
[21:50] <bekks> pulsar78: Then refer to the wiki article please.
[21:50] <solcyto> ?
[21:50] <samgabbay> done
[21:50] <bekks> pulsar78: You are wrong, you want it on your client :)
[21:50] <solcyto> gracias :) besos muak
[21:51] <solcyto> bekks
[21:51] <pvl1> donttrustem: did you follow http://www.getdeb.net/updates/Ubuntu/13.10#how_to_install
[21:51] <pvl1> param__: you mean the headphones are fine now?
[21:51] <donttrustem> let me check
[21:51] <samgabbay> pvl1: i messaged ooy
[21:51] <samgabbay> you
[21:51] <param__> headphone sound is less,  but its working,  volume is very less
[21:51] <trism> gianko: not sure I follow you, the debsym packages are just deb packages you install, and then you can debug the binaries with gdb or whatever...if you are rebuilding the package with new options you should add nostrip like you were before
[21:52] <donttrustem> pvl1: no … I will follow it
[21:52] <k1l> !spanish | solcyto
[21:52] <pulsar78> bekks: why is it also a dns client ?
[21:52] <pvl1> param__: what do you get from lsmod | grep snd
[21:53] <trism> gianko: since the dbgsym packages are generated by a separate program on the buildd, and the older apache2 packages don't seem to build -dbg
[21:53] <param__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6506492/  i got this
[21:54] <bekks> pulsar78: Because it is.
[21:55] <pvl1> donttrustem: thanks for that link, very interesting site
[21:56] <gianko> trism: before I meant to recompile apache2-dbgsym with  DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS="debug nostrip" plus  DEB_CFLAGS_APPEND="-finstrument-functions"
[21:56] <gianko> trism: in this way it should work with no errors
[21:57] <param__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6506492/  i got this
[21:57] <pvl1> i saw param__ im looking at it
[21:58] <pvl1> param__: are you on a HP laptop
[21:58] <trism> gianko: is it working?
[21:58] <param__> yes, HP compaq 610
[21:59] <donttrustem> pvl1: man this is becoming a nightmare http://pastebin.com/0Xkwq1Bx
[21:59] <donttrustem> any help would be appriciated
[22:00] <solcyto> 1 pregunta donde pongo esto/join #ubuntu-es
[22:00] <pvl1> donttrustem: did ya try libdb4.8++-dev
[22:00] <xangua> (15:42:01) donttrustem: I am running lucid - please upgrade to a supported ubuntu version
[22:01] <donttrustem> xangua: I can't at the moment
[22:01] <pvl1> param__: do you have a control center or sound settings under system menu
[22:02] <param__> yes sound settings on top right corner
[22:02] <geoffb> Will an op take a look at the 'EM255E37' spambot, please, and consider whether it should stay here. Thanks.
[22:02] <solcyto> alguien habla espanish
[22:02] <solcyto> ?
[22:03] <k1l> solcyto: /join #ubuntu-es    into this window
[22:03] <gianko> trism: have't tried yet, I am solving some problem with apt configuration
[22:03] <gianko> trism: I'll let you know once done
[22:04] <solcyto> kll:pero donde pongo /join #ubuntu-es :(
[22:04] <k1l> solcyto: aqui
[22:05] <pvl1> param__: im not sure if thats the same thing. theres the volume control applet in the bar, and theres an actual settings app within the system menu on the top left
[22:05] <solcyto> kll: arriba donde esta ubuntu
[22:05] <solcyto> ?
[22:06] <param__> yes i have checked, i have increase all volumes in the sound settings to 100 %
[22:06] <k1l> solcyto: en el que escribe todo el tiempo puramente
[22:07] <pvl1> param__: what devices is it using
[22:07] <solcyto> kll: gracias te lo agradesco pero ahora q hago
[22:08] <solcyto> ?
[22:08] <param__> Analog Output / Build in Audio     Anallog Input   Build in audio
[22:08] <param__> for output and input i mentioned
[22:09] <solcyto> kll:ayudame por favor
[22:10] <pvl1> param__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[22:11] <k1l> solcyto: please write in english in here. if you want to write in spanish please join the #ubuntu-es channel
[22:11] <Neikius> hello, having some problems installing mysql server; this is exactly the same problem:http://askubuntu.com/questions/261250/dpkg-invoke-rc-d-initscript-mysql-action-start-failed/ - my problem is that the suggested solution (purging mysql-common) doesn't seem so bright, upwards of 60 kde packages are dependant on it...
[22:12] <TauNeutrino> hey gays I want to create a diagram with libre calc with like 29 entries(a pie chart) but it only shows like 13 and some have the same freaking color ;/
[22:13] <dcotet> yo
[22:13] <skilo> is this channel only for servers?
[22:14] <pvl1> no
[22:14] <skilo> when will the devs fix that annoying screen brightness issue? it's been around since well... as long as i can remember
[22:15] <TauNeutrino> helloooow
[22:15] <k1l> skilo: no, this is ubuntu support. but we have #ubuntu-servers for more server related issue
[22:15] <k1l> *issues
[22:15] <gianko> trism: there's something I don't understand now, I added the ddeb repos and apt-cache search shows the dbgsym package, for libapache2-mod-* but not for all of them. For example, no symbol packages for apache2-mpm-worker or -prefork
[22:15] <TauNeutrino> hey penguin fetischists
[22:15] <_dan_> ok so, after 9.10 -> 10.04 upgrade, lost my ssh, but apparently it fixed itself after a couple of reboots
[22:15] <_dan_> according to wiki 10.04 is still supported?
[22:16] <skilo> i actually have a fix for the screen brightness thing here - http://askubuntu.com/questions/381730/how-to-fix-the-screen-being-to-bright-in-ubuntu-12-04-and-up/382268#382268
[22:16] <_dan_> i can't find openjdk 7 though
[22:16] <k1l> !guidelines > TauNeutrino please make sure you read them and stick to them when you are in the #ubuntu channels
[22:16] <TauNeutrino> ?
[22:17] <gianko> trism: I doublechecked in http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/main/a/apache2/ and the -dbgsym for apache2-mpm-worker is in there
[22:17] <TauNeutrino> not sure what do you want to say, I asked a normal freaking question
[22:18] <randolph`> #libreoffice
[22:18] <TauNeutrino> I know
[22:18] <TauNeutrino> it's pretty quit there for a long time
[22:18] <trism> gianko: yeah that is kind of strange, you may end up having to just rebuild it yourself with nostrip
[22:18] <ptyyy> Hi guys, I've suddenly got no access to the right click context menu on the desktop. Running 13.10 with unity. Any idea what I may have done?
[22:19] <TauNeutrino> ;D haha
[22:19] <trism> gianko: I'm actually looking through there and it doesn't seem like all the precise ones are there, only later ones for raring
[22:20] <mainmeister> \
[22:20] <skilo> what are the chances of us getting kernel 3.13 in ubuntu 13.10?
[22:21] <k1l> skilo: with mainline kernels but not official kernel upgrades in final releases
[22:21] <skilo> wut
[22:21] <k1l> skilo: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[22:23] <skilo> seems kinda risky, Might break stuff
[22:23] <pvl1> skilo: im on 14
[22:23] <pvl1> skilo: wait i lied
[22:23] <pvl1> skilo: 3.11.0-14
[22:23] <skilo> 14 dies not exist yet lol
[22:23] <k1l> skilo: that is on own risk, yes.
[22:24] <Ari-Yang> skilo: you could install kernel 3.13 though it's RC phase
[22:24] <Ari-Yang> as in it's still testing
[22:24] <Ari-Yang> kernel 3.12 is stable
[22:24] <skilo> i want those power saving features to help battery life
[22:24] <Ari-Yang> skilo: that's why I'm using kernel 3.12 myself
[22:24] <Ari-Yang> Akaigo-Arc 3.12.0-031200-generic x86_64 Description: Ubuntu 12.10 Codename: quantal
[22:25] <Ari-Yang> skilo: what graphics card do you have? is this laptop or desktop?
[22:25] <gianko> trism: mmmh... look in any case here is the error upon "fakeroot apt-get source -b apache2" with DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS="debug nostrip" and DEB_CFLAGS_APPEND="-finstrument-functions" set: http://pastebin.com/nj7UEQW6
[22:25] <k1l> skilo: 14.04 will get a 3.12 kernel with some 3..13 backports. but that is all still no stable. so as enduser you have to wait anyway
[22:25] <skilo> i have intel hd integrated graphics
[22:25] <skilo> ubuntu detects it as "Sandy bridge"
[22:25] <Ari-Yang> skilo: what ubuntu version?
[22:26] <skilo> 13.10
[22:26] <trism> gianko: don't see any error there
[22:26] <trism> gianko: might have missed stderr
[22:27] <gianko> trism: you are rightr, sorry I gave you the wrong log
[22:27] <bekks> skilo: you have an Intel Sandy Bridge CPU - so thats expected.
[22:27] <skilo> everything is intel on my laptop
[22:27] <Ari-Yang> skilo: hmmmm.... I'm not sure if dpm (referring to radeon's dynamic power management) works with intel.... but seeing how you have 13.10, which uses kernel 3.11, you could try to enable dpm
[22:27] <skilo> intel wifi intel pentium b40 cpu inte hd graphics
[22:27] <bekks> skilo: yes, and?
[22:28] <Ari-Yang> skilo: open up terminal, run gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[22:28] <bekks> skilo: "Sandy Bridge" is the Intel code name for your CPU generation.
[22:28] <Ari-Yang> skilo: no wait....
[22:29] <universal> kernel panic.....what to do ?
[22:29] <Ari-Yang> skilo: yeah I don't think radeon's dpm will work at all
[22:29] <skilo> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[22:29] <bekks> skilo: so you have an intel gpu.
[22:29] <skilo> everything is intel on my laptop
[22:29] <bekks> skilo: And...?
[22:30] <bekks> skilo: So whats the issue at that point?
[22:30] <skilo> no issue
[22:30] <Ari-Yang> skilo: if your gpu is intel, there's no point unless you got a radeon.
[22:30] <skilo> i just heard the new kernel 3.13 will have new power saving features
[22:30] <skilo> and i want them
[22:30] <k1l> skilo: i showed you your options. either you take mainline kernel builds with own risk (or compile own kernels) or you wait for 14.04 or 14.10 to get official ubuntu support
[22:30] <Ari-Yang> skilo: for what graphics card? intel, radeon, or nvidia?
[22:31] <Ari-Yang> or all three?
[22:31] <hovalhydro> did jupiter power management project die?
[22:31] <hitsujiTMO_> skilo: 3.12 has new intel power management, 3.13 has new radeon power management. the intel power management in 3.11 is the best you'll get
[22:31] <skilo> i read somewhere that ubuntu 14.04 will have 3.13 kernel is that true?
[22:32] <hitsujiTMO_> skilo: 3.12 has new nvidia power management, 3.13 has new radeon power management. the intel power management in 3.11 is the best you'll get
[22:32] <k1l> skilo: "you heard" something. but even kernel 3.13 is not final now. so how should ubuntu give some official support for what is not even made final now?
[22:32] <skilo> because i want it
[22:32] <k1l> skilo: as i said you: ubuntu 14.04 will have 3.12 with some backports
[22:32] <Ari-Yang> skilo: you can download and install kernel 3.13-rc2 from here http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.13-rc2-trusty/
[22:32] <Ari-Yang> skilo: are you on 64bit?
[22:32] <k1l> skilo: what you want doesnt change the options that i told you got
[22:32] <skilo> yes
[22:33] <gianko> trism, here http://pastebin.com/pqLn6rSu
[22:33] <skilo> im going to call shuttleworth and tell him i want the new 3.13 kernel in ubuntu 14.04
[22:33] <Ari-Yang> skilo: okay, so then you'd download the headers amd64, headers all, and image amd64. Throw it all into a folder, cd into it with terminal and run sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[22:33] <k1l> skilo: good luck with that.
[22:34] <jessic1> I can't seem to kill a process (that I stopped with ctrl-z)
[22:34] <jessic1> when I use: ps aux | grep ubuntu
[22:34] <jessic1> it shows the process
[22:34] <skilo> but it will probably break stuff
[22:34] <jessic1> the 1st column with numbers is the pid correct?
[22:34] <Ari-Yang> skilo: it may or may not
[22:35] <Ari-Yang> skilo: if you aren't using any proprietary drivers, you should be good
[22:35] <jessic1> I execute: sudo kill pid, but the process is still there
[22:35] <Ari-Yang> skilo: if you are, then I suggest you switch over to open source
[22:35] <Ari-Yang> skilo: that's what I did before installing kernel 3.10 on ubuntu 12.10, make sure all the drivers were set to open source
[22:35] <skilo> all my drivers are included with the kernel since intel is opensource
[22:35] <bekks> jessic1: are you still in the same terminal where you started it?
[22:36] <skilo> i may not bother with it, My battery life is ok now i get about 3 hours, It's mainly watching videos that kills my battery
[22:37] <jessic1> bekks, I think so. I sshed into my server. I ran a python script, pressed ctrl+z to stop it, then I tried to kill the process as I described
[22:37] <Ari-Yang> skilo: perhaps use....vaapi (ew)when watching videos?
[22:37] <jessic1> but it is still there
[22:37] <Ari-Yang> skilo: what video player do you use?
[22:37] <skilo> i use VLC
[22:37] <bekks> jessic1: press fg, then press ctrl c
[22:38] <jessic1> bekks that did the trick! but why?
[22:38] <trism> gianko: that's weird, I still don't see an error there other than it saying 'Error', I'm gonna have to look at the precise package, I'll let you know if I find anything
[22:38] <Ari-Yang> skilo: VLc...oh :V well look into using vaapi with vlc. Or you can install mpv, fork of mplayer/mplayer2 that I  highly recommend
[22:38] <Snake2k> jessic1: you can view the running processes via 'jobs' then sudo killall -9 -v {thatthing}
[22:39] <skilo> well right now im using Xubuntu so i have vlc and parole
[22:39] <bekks> jessic1: The process was in the background and it was not allowed for him to do something in the background. Not even killing himself.
[22:39] <Snake2k> jessic1: ctrl+z doesn
[22:39] <Snake2k> jessic1: ctrl+z doesn't kill it
[22:39] <hovalhydro> I am kind of stuck with VLC, it seems to be the only player that plays everything. Also it can record streaming video.
[22:39] <jessic1> ahh ok, so bg means background, and ctrl+c is to kill
[22:39] <TinoDidriksen> Does Server 13.10 still do the annoying NIC re-labelling if you move the installation to a different machine with a different NIC?
[22:39] <Snake2k> jessic1: Yep
[22:42] <Ari-Yang> skilo: k, look into using vaapi with vlc... also run apt-get install vainfo pastebinit then run vainfo | pastebinit and then link
[22:45] <motaka2> hello what would you do if you encounter this? http://codepaste.net/pqy42h
[22:45] <skilo> ok
[22:46] <oz0ne> motaka2: 'apt-get -f install'
[22:50] <motaka2> oz0ne: I did that still errors
[22:50] <hovalhydro> motaka2: paste errors?
[22:51] <motaka2> hovalhydro: trying to do
[22:52] <motaka2> hovalhydro: http://tny.cz/a21ca6d8
[22:55] <trism> gianko: I guess it must be failing in that script following the dh_strip line, but since [ "Ubuntu" != "Ubuntu" ] should be false, I don't see why it would be evaluated at all...I'm building with nostrip now to see if it fails for me too
[22:56] <donttrustem> can anyone help …. I am running lucid http://pastebin.com/bfnhMZrZ
[22:57] <micael> ciao
[22:57] <donttrustem> looks this is the problem warning: gmp.h: No such file or directory  but I am not sure what lib it would be
[22:57] <trism> donttrustem: you probably need libgmp-dev
[22:57] <donttrustem> yeah … but I cannot install it
[22:58] <donttrustem> E: Couldn't find package libgmp-dev
[22:58] <hovalhydro> donttrustem: can you build in a VM?
[22:59] <donttrustem> hovalhydro: ?
[22:59] <hovalhydro> hovalhydro: or some kind of chroot environment? I assume you arent allowed to uprade lucid itself?
[22:59] <trism> donttrustem: apt-cache search -n libgmp dev;
[23:00] <donttrustem> trism: llibgmp3-dev
[23:00] <gianko> trism: is it possible that dh_strip fails?
[23:00] <geirha> gianko, trism: It's missing a semicolon after set -e
[23:01] <trism> geirha: if that were the issue, shouldn't the package fail to build?
[23:01] <oz0ne> motaka2: could it be that you are oft of storage? anyway do you need thunderbird?
[23:02] <gianko> geirha, trism: I'm checking if adding ; to rules would fix
[23:03] <Elementofme> HEY GUYS MY NAME IS JOHN N HOW YALL DOING?
[23:03] <donttrustem> trism: looks good man …. thanks for your help … well it is compling at the moment and has not failed yet
[23:04] <donttrustem> spoke to soon main_poolminer.cpp:19:31: warning: boost/uuid/sha1.hpp: No such file or directory
[23:05] <hovalhydro> bleh, boost. i assume you've installed it? i dontn know version lucid ships though
[23:06] <donttrustem> yeah
[23:06] <hovalhydro> we can't use boost, so afraid i cant help
[23:06] <donttrustem> why
[23:06] <geirha> trism: Don't know. Just spotted an make+sh error
[23:07] <gianko> trism, geirha : it did work
[23:07] <donttrustem> why can we not use boot
[23:07] <hovalhydro> donttrustem: boost doesnt support some the platforms we target
[23:07] <donttrustem> boost
[23:07] <geirha> Personally, I'd remove the set -e. It's generally a bad idea to use it.
[23:07] <hovalhydro> donttrustem: I mean me/my organisation, not this channel :-)
[23:08] <donttrustem> ah OK
[23:08] <motaka2> oz0ne: yes ia m using it daily as my mail client
[23:10] <oz0ne> motaka2: it was gzip that failed to open the filedescriptor, to extract the upgrade of thunderbird. So try to purge the cache with apt-get clean
[23:11] <oz0ne> motaka2: then try apt-get -f install
[23:12] <motaka2> oz0ne: should I close thunderbird before running it? will my emails be lost ?
[23:12] <oz0ne> think it shouldn't mather
[23:12] <oz0ne> and no that shouldn't hurt your emails
[23:13] <motaka2> oz0ne: it seems to be reinstalling or downloading s=thunderbird'
[23:14] <motaka2> lemme close thunderbird and then I will chat with you with chat zilla
[23:14] <oz0ne> yes it might redownload it now, as it got told to remove the one it got cached
[23:15] <gianko> trism, geirha, the fix worked... thank you both for your help, appreciated :) now I file a bug report and for today I am done
[23:19] <trism> gianko: good to hear, and good eye for geirha...now I'm just gonna be curious why it didn't fail to build on launchpad
[23:20] <hassen> haha..when I learn any new thing(and keep learning)about IT/linux/programming/tricks i feel proud and happy and ready to move on for new stuff,while when i play(get stuck at gaming) i feel regretful especially when looking at the time or the concentration i've  spent on gaming
[23:27] <universal> how to find out if a newer kernel is available for update and how to download and update it ?
[23:28] <k1l> universal: "sudo apt-get update&&sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[23:28] <universal> k1l: thats for full system update but I only want kernel update
[23:30] <k1l> universal: run the apt-get update and see which kernels are available (with apt-cache search linux-image) and then install that package
[23:32] <universal> http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=225664c k1l
[23:33] <k1l> universal: did you run "sudo apt-get update" ?
[23:33] <universal> k1l: not now
[23:33] <universal> k1l: is it necessary ?
[23:34] <k1l> yes. it updates the package listing. without that you will not see what new packages are available
[23:34] <universal> ok
[23:34] <naillwind> has anyone experience that apt-get update is hanging on.. "0% [Connecting to nl.archive.ubuntu.com (2001:7b8:3:37:213:136:29:218)] [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1360:8c01::18)]" and later one eg. "97% [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1360:8c01::15)]" ?
[23:35] <universal> k1l: is there any problem like system malfunction or instability if I update only kernel ?
[23:35] <picca> naillwind: somebody will have
[23:35] <naillwind> or something similar who can help me understand why?
[23:35] <k1l> universal: if you update only kernel you are missing all security updates
[23:35] <gordonjcp> naillwind: possibly those mirrors are broken
[23:35] <universal> naillwind: maybe server problem.....change server and try again
[23:35] <ikonia> naillwind: looks like your dns is broken
[23:36] <ikonia> naillwind: that resolves to ubuntuarchive.bit.nl which is <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:36] <ikonia> you appear to be connecting to an IP6 adress
[23:36] <ikonia> address
[23:36] <naillwind> the dns is from a vps provider, if the dns is broken, then would it be possible somewhere to tell it to connect to something that is working?
[23:37] <ikonia> naillwind: re-read what I just said
[23:38] <universal> k1l: hmm....but I can install security updates afterwards or not ?
[23:38] <naillwind> ikonia: thanks I got it, what you wrote makes sense, now I need to find out how to not automatically have it connect to an IP6 address
[23:38] <ikonia> naillwind: talk to your dns provider....
[23:38] <_NerdyMe_> Help please! Im on version 13.10. I get the login screen, type my credentials, hit enter and then it goes into a black screen where i still can see my mouse. Somebody can help?
[23:38] <k1l> universal: the security updates come as regular updates in ubuntu. so if you dont update besides the kernel, you are missing the security updates
[23:39] <bcuda_> How can I, in Ubuntu, enable a 3 button mouse with a 1 button mouse? I see tons of methods with a 2button mouse but this touchpad barely works using the left click (jumps everyware completely unstable in windows and linux alike.)?
[23:39] <universal> k1l: ok...the motive behind my only kernel update - kernel panic several times
[23:40] <bcuda_> _NerdyMe_: did you just update or change anything?
[23:42] <motaka2> oz0ne: it is downloading
[23:43] <_NerdyMe_> bcuda_: i got the laptop a week ago from system 76 preinstalled with 13.10
[23:44] <oz0ne> motaka2: so it works now?
[23:45] <motaka2> oz0ne: the download is not yet fiished
[23:46] <motaka2> should I run apt-get install php5-sqlite   now?
[23:46] <bcuda_> _NerdyMe_: i see. did you just update or install anything?
[23:46] <bcuda_> or did you have updates set to automatic?
[23:47] <Beldar> _NerdyMe_, There is a system76 area on the ubuntu forums if needed.
[23:48] <Beldar> the actual developers from them check the posts
[23:48] <_NerdyMe_> It is completely Updated. I have installed in the last couple of days many things (db, vmware, browsers, skype, teamviewer, ccsm etc)
[23:49] <SaveME> !ops
[23:49] <Beldar> _NerdyMe_, Have you messed around in compiz?
[23:50] <_NerdyMe_> Only activated wobbly windows. Worked so far since i did it. A way to reset everything?
[23:51] <Beldar> _NerdyMe_, http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/reset-unity-and-compiz-in-ubuntu-13-10/
[23:51] <Beldar> _NerdyMe_, May need a reboot to finalize
[23:52] <Beldar> _NerdyMe_, You can do it from  tty from the desktop ctrl-f1
[23:52] <Beldar> ctrl-alt-f1 sorry
[23:53] <Danato> is there a command to list all the kernel files installed?
[23:54] <ikonia> "list all the kernel files" - the kernel is 1 file
[23:55] <Danato> ikonia: I mean, linux-headers, linux-image, linux-firmware, etc
[23:55] <ikonia> Danato: dpkg -l | grep linux-
[23:56] <_NerdyMe_> Dconf reset -f /org/compiz/ gives the meaasage"error: spawning command line ...etc... child process exited with code 1"
[23:57] <Danato> ikonia: yup that should do it, thanks
[23:58] <_NerdyMe_> Dbus-launch --autolaunch=BIGSERIESOFDIGITS --bunary-syntax --close-stderr
[23:58] <naillwind> ikonia+: thanks, helped sort it :)