[00:00] <nynex> Hello I need a little help with flash. I broke something...
[00:00] <BillyZane2> where is ~
[00:00] <histo> BillyZane2: unity has a screenshot app that comes withit but I can't remember the name of it
[00:01] <SonikkuAmerica> nynex: We don't support Flash here.
[00:01] <histo> BillyZane2: /home/billyzane2   if that's your ussername
[00:01] <BillyZane2> i typed in scrot and nothing happened
[00:01] <histo> BillyZane2: it took a .png and put it in your /home/username  folder
[00:01] <BillyZane2> ok i found it
[00:01] <histo> BillyZane2: or you can use gnome-screenshot   that's aparently the one that comes with ubuntu
[00:02] <nynex> SonikkuAmerica, Okay, what do you recommend I do? if i show you a pic of the problem can you suggest what to google?
[00:02] <SonikkuAmerica> Maybe
[00:03] <SonikkuAmerica> Unless it's that "confetti" problem in Chrome
[00:03] <BillyZane2> http://tinypic.com/r/307vi3n/6
[00:03] <xj54y> How can I check to see what is utilizing a disk?
[00:03] <histo> !details | nynex
[00:03] <BillyZane2> http://i45.tinypic.com/307vi3n.png
[00:03] <k1l> xj54y: with lsof
[00:03] <BillyZane2> sorry, 640 res is really bad for productivity
[00:04] <benlangfeld> Hello gents. I'm having a hard time finding out about upstart and restarting services as a user other than root. Obviously if that user can sudo, all is good, but if they can't, is there a way to allow them to restart a specific service?
[00:04] <histo> BillyZane2: yeah you are using the nouveau driver that's why your resolution is messed up
[00:04] <BillyZane2> histo: i love you
[00:04] <BillyZane2> histo: how do i fix it?
[00:04] <histo> BillyZane2: click on the one below that and click enable it
[00:05] <BillyZane2> changes are being applied
[00:05] <histo> BillyZane2: enable button is in the bottom right you'd have to move the window up some more to see it.
[00:05] <BillyZane2> i'm going to microwave some food real fast, brb
[00:05] <BillyZane2> histo, i'm hungry, i got school in a few minutes.. like.. ahh.. 40 minutes.. i better get cracking, then i'll get all this done and be on time
[00:06] <SonikkuAmerica> Does anyone know which version of Ubuntu that is that BillyZane2 is using?
[00:06] <BillyZane2> histo, it's going to take a few minutes to apply, i'm using 12.10
[00:06] <nynex> ubottu, Sure. im running 12.04 it was all working fine, but slow on a dell 1520 inspiron so i thought i would install a ligher window environment and put in sudo apt-get install lubuntu as the canonical website suggested.
[00:06] <BillyZane2> SonikkuAmerica, : 12.10 sir
[00:06] <SonikkuAmerica> nynex: You mean lubuntu-desktop
[00:06] <nynex> SonikkuAmerica, Yeah it looks like confetti
[00:06] <BillyZane2> histo: i will be right back
[00:07] <nynex> SonikkuAmerica, Yeah thats it
[00:07] <SonikkuAmerica> BillyZane2: That's right, you said Xubuntu 12.10.
[00:07] <histo> benlangfeld: you need to edit the sudoers file
[00:07] <SonikkuAmerica> nynex: Sadly, AFAIK there is no fix to that
[00:07] <histo> !sudo | benlangfeld
[00:08] <SonikkuAmerica> nynex: I would suggest using Opera to view YouTube videos for the time being, until the next Pepper Flash comes arounds.
[00:08] <SonikkuAmerica> *around
[00:08] <histo> SonikkuAmerica: what is this confetti bug you speak of?
[00:08] <nynex> SonikkuAmerica, jsut so we are talking about the same thing, is this it? [IMG]http://i46.tinypic.com/2u63db9.jpg[/IMG]
[00:08] <histo> SonikkuAmerica: flash for linux is done I believe
[00:08] <benlangfeld> histo: I know I can edit sudoers, but is there not a way to do it without giving the user sudo?
[00:08] <histo> benlangfeld: yes you can give them permission to a single command etc...
[00:09] <histo> benlangfeld: if you look at that documentation
[00:09] <nynex> histo, by done you mean finished as in its killled or done as in its ready?
[00:09] <jerrad> hey
[00:09] <jerrad> can you guys think of a reason why a file system would suddenly change to read-only?
[00:09] <histo> benlangfeld: ewww they don't ahve it on thos epages let me look for better docs
[00:09] <SonikkuAmerica> histo: In Chrome for Linux, when you try to play a YouTube video using the latest Flash Player, "confetti" (really random single-color dots) appear in the player window. In the HTML 5 demo, they turn red.
[00:09] <nynex> jerr
[00:10] <histo> SonikkuAmerica: not for me... I thinkk it's only with nvidia cards
[00:10] <nynex> jerrad, i had that when my external hdd died
[00:10] <histo> SonikkuAmerica: can't they use gnash instead of flash and fix the issue
[00:10] <BillyZane2> histo, the driver got updated, should i reboot?
[00:10] <SonikkuAmerica> histo: I'm using Ubuntu under a Mobile Intel GMA965. And Gnash doesn't work.
[00:11] <SonikkuAmerica> jerrad: Another one: You might've dropped sudo by accident
[00:11] <benlangfeld> histo: That's still sodoers. That's not what I'm looking for. Thanks anyway
[00:11] <jerrad> SonikkuAmerica: /dev/disk/by-uuid/89617218-d503-4f18-ab7b-0098bfe1dbdf / ext4 ro,relatime,errors=remount-ro,user_xattr,barrier=1,data=ordered 0 0
[00:11] <jrib> benlangfeld: what service is this?  You could let the user use upstart to have his own jobs (this isn't enabled by default in ubuntu)
[00:11] <jerrad> no, thats from /proc/mounts
[00:11] <jerrad> its read only
[00:11] <histo> benlangfeld: okay it is what you are looking for but don't believe me
[00:12] <BillyZane2> hisot: brb, rebooting
[00:12] <BillyZane2> histo
[00:12] <SonikkuAmerica> jerrad: So the entire FS just magically [ chmod 744 ]'ed you.
[00:12] <benlangfeld> histo: I'm telling you I would prefer not to use sudo. I know I can do it that way, I know sudo inside out. But thank you for trying to help anyway.
[00:12] <roasted> Question - when I execute my custom find command which deletes all files and directories older than 3 days, I get a message for each directory indicating "No such file or directory." While on one hand it may not matter, I'm exceptionally curious as to why I'm even getting this message during the execution of the find command???
[00:13] <benlangfeld> jrib: Do you have a doc reference for that? Or a good search term?
[00:13] <jrib> benlangfeld: upstart cookbook
[00:13] <jerrad> SonikkuAmerica: i had a FSCK error pop up on startup, fixed it. I think this might be normal operation as per the 'errors=remount-ro,' in /proc/mounts (which i didn't set, so must be default behavior)
[00:13] <SonikkuAmerica> roasted: Are you cd'd to the directory your script is in?
[00:13] <benlangfeld> jrib: This? http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#user-job
[00:14] <roasted> SonikkuAmerica: there is no script, I'm just running the command freely in terminal.
[00:14] <jrib> benlangfeld: yes
[00:14] <benlangfeld> jrib: Awesome, thanks, will dig into that.
[00:14] <roasted> SonikkuAmerica: I am CD'd into the parent dir though, hang on let me try again.
[00:15] <roasted> SonikkuAmerica: my command is find /home/jason/Desktop/test/* -mmin +1 -exec rm -r {} \;
[00:15] <jrib> benlangfeld: it's not clear what you are doing.  histo's suggestion is what you would want if you just want to let a user manager some service on the system.  But if you want a user to have his own jobs then use user jobs
[00:15] <SonikkuAmerica> jerrad: What is /dev/disk/by-uuid/89617218-d503-4f18-ab7b-0098bfe1dbdf / ext4 ro,relatime,errors=remount-ro,user_xattr,barrier=1,data=ordered 0 0 listed as in Nautilus or your FM?
[00:15] <roasted> SonikkuAmerica: I was CD'd into /home/jason/Desktop/test at the time
[00:15] <histo> benlangfeld: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/allow-a-normal-user-to-run-commands-as-root.html  This will give you an idea.  Then you can remove the passwd prompt etc...
[00:15] <roasted> SonikkuAmerica: still gives me that message even if I'm just CD'd into Desktop
[00:15] <benlangfeld> jrib: I want a user to be able to manage his own jobs.
[00:15] <benlangfeld> histo: Yes, I'm familiar, thank you.
[00:15] <jrib> benlangfeld: k
[00:15] <jerrad> SonikkuAmerica: i dont know how to check that?
[00:15] <SonikkuAmerica> jerrad: Open your file manager
[00:15] <SonikkuAmerica> as root
[00:16] <tertulero> hi
[00:16] <SonikkuAmerica> roasted: Why not [ find * <whateverSwitchesYouPutHere> ]?
[00:16] <roasted> SonikkuAmerica: I'm using find to locate files/directories over a certain age and deleting them via rm -r
[00:17] <OerHeks> benlangfeld, answer #4 is what you r goal is ? >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1009657
[00:17] <tertulero> alguien habla español
[00:17] <SonikkuAmerica> !es | tertulero
[00:17] <JonEdney> I'm getting this error when I open terminal in 12.10: bash: /home/jon/.bashrc: line 116: syntax error: unexpected end of file
[00:18] <JonEdney> The only change to the file I made was adding a couple aliases, but then I got rid of them thinking I messed things up, and they came back.
[00:18] <jrib> JonEdney: pastebin your ~/.bashrc
[00:18] <benlangfeld> OerHeks: It's a partial solution, but does not do what I want. Sudoers is not a good way to solve the problem I have. Thanks anyway :)
[00:20] <histo> roasted: do the directories hav file in them perhaps you need -f
[00:20] <roasted> histo: yeah, they do have files. I thought I got the same thing with f as well but let me try
[00:21] <roasted> histo: still getting the message.
[00:21] <histo> roasted: what message were you getting?
[00:21] <roasted> histo: I don't understand why it's telling me no such file or dir when the intention is to delete it anyway. It's as if it's looping twice or something
[00:21] <hilarious> anyone ever set up their own SMTP server ?
[00:21] <roasted> histo: sec
[00:21] <roasted> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1567643/
[00:22] <histo> roasted: try find /home/jason/Desktop/test/.  blah lbah
[00:23] <roasted> histo: pardon? just change the * to .?
[00:23] <histo> roasted: yes
[00:23] <roasted> histo: would . still act as a wildcard? The goal is to delete anything older than 3 days in this specific dir.
[00:23] <jrib> hilarious: best to just ask your actual question.  There's some documentation on help.ubuntu.com (server guide) as well as help.ubuntu.com/community about setting up a mail server
[00:24] <JonEdney> jrib, http://pastebin.com/PNnhW89R
[00:24] <hilarious> hm i think i may just use a perl implementation
[00:24] <roasted> histo: same error with .
[00:24] <hilarious> i don't have a specific question, i am thinking about running my own smtp server
[00:24] <JonEdney> jrib, SInce I removed my aliases, this should be a non-altered file, as I'd have no need to touch it.
[00:24] <histo> roasted: yes you are telling it to look there and look by dates i'm assuming
[00:24] <hilarious> seems complicated though
[00:24] <jrib> JonEdney: erm, there is no line 116 :x
[00:24] <roasted> histo: yeah.
[00:25] <roasted> histo: this is for video surveillance. I need to rotate the feeds since I don't have 4 million petabytes of HDD storage
[00:25] <yeats> !smtp | hilarious
[00:25] <roasted> histo: this is a mock test for my actual server.
[00:25] <jrib> JonEdney: look at line 103
[00:25] <histo> roasted: Well does it work with .
[00:25] <hilarious> thanks
[00:25] <roasted> histo: no, same error.
[00:25] <roasted> histo: operates identically
[00:25] <JonEdney> jrib, oh my...a rogue paste!
[00:26] <histo> roasted: ask in ##linux again. See if xeon will answer he is good with that sort of thing
[00:26] <JonEdney> I can't believe I overlooked that :( ty jrib
[00:26] <histo> roasted: show him the pastebin also
[00:26] <jrib> roasted: you're deleting based on modification time?
[00:26] <jrib> I feel like I've seen this question in here like 5 times at this point....
[00:27] <roasted> jrib: originally I was deleting based on file type, but that of course leaves empty directories behind.
[00:27] <roasted> jrib: this time I'm axing the whole dir as well.
[00:27] <sid|laptop> rm -rf /
[00:27] <sid|laptop> woops
[00:27] <roasted> no
[00:27] <sid|laptop> wrong window
[00:27] <roasted> very nice
[00:27] <jrib> sid|laptop: well remember to read the man page when that doesn't work I suppose
[00:28] <sid|laptop> thanks ◕‿◕
[00:29] <jrib> roasted: have it echo what it is deleting.  You're probably deleting things recursively from the top and that's messing with find
[00:30] <BillyZane2> histo: it won't work. i tried the one you told me to use, i tried the other drivers. i even did sudo nvidia-xconfig before each reboot
[00:31] <roasted> jrib: I'm drawing a blank as to how I'd incorporate echo in that...
[00:31] <jrib> roasted: change '-exec' to '-print -exec' then
[00:32] <roasted> jrib: looks fine to me - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1567660/
[00:32] <tertulero> espñol
[00:33] <tertulero> español
[00:33] <jrib> roasted: this doesn't have rm :)  Anyway, there's some switch you can pass to find so that it starts at the bottom level which will probably let you avoid the issue you are coming across now
[00:34] <roasted> jrib: ah, thank you - yes there is. I'll dig it up and give that a shot.
[00:34] <jrib> roasted: -depth it seems
[00:34] <histo> jrib: is roasted problem maybe due to the spaces in the results?
[00:34] <roasted> no
[00:34] <roasted> histo: I tried solid single word directories too
[00:35] <roasted> find: `/home/jason/Desktop/test/test1': No such file or directory
[00:35] <histo> roasted: and test1 exists right?
[00:35] <roasted> histo: oh yes
[00:35] <jrib> histo: I don't think so; I believe it's because test1 gets deleted (because he used rm -rf on something above it) and find still goes to look for it
[00:35] <roasted> histo: test1, test2, and four "Untitled Folders" - all 6 got the same error.
[00:36] <histo> roasted: what's your latest paste?
[00:36] <jrib> roasted: -delete might be a better idea too (it includes -depth automatically as a bonus)
[00:36] <BillyZane2> OMG i have sound on ubuntu, but no video. how ironic
[00:36] <roasted> histo: hang on... -depth gave me an error
[00:36] <roasted> but I think I just misplaced -depth
[00:36] <histo> BillyZane2: Can yo ujust use VGA again? does that fix the issue?
[00:37] <BillyZane2> histo: the original driver? i can try
[00:37] <roasted> find: warning: you have specified the -depth option after a non-option argument -mmin blah blah blah etc etc
[00:37] <BillyZane2> histo: i'm in the middle of an update and i gotta leave in a few minutes, but lets try
[00:37] <histo> BillyZane2: No you said this started when you switched to DVI right? can you switch back?
[00:38] <Mkop> well, after struggling to install hebrew in lubuntu, I rebooted, and now everything is right to left
[00:38] <BillyZane2> histo: i am currently on VGA.  this problem was occuring in windows as well. It might be a problem with the video card's bios
[00:38] <johnjacobjinger> BillyZane2 what do u mean u dont have video?
[00:38] <Vivekananda> Hello everyone. I am thinking of upgrading from lucid to 12.04 now but I have just a few questions
[00:38] <BillyZane2> histo: here's the thing, VGA works fine in windows. it detects the high res, but ever since i tried switching to DVI, nothing works in ubuntu, not DVI or VGA
[00:38] <histo> BillyZane2: that's bizare I'd assume it's more related to driver but it could be somehting goofy with the card or the monitors EDID data.
[00:38] <BillyZane2> i mean my screen resolution is stuck at 640x480, i'm back in the stone ages
[00:39] <jrib> roasted: -delete is probably safer too since it won't wipe out directories that are not empty
[00:39] <BillyZane2> hmm.. how do i check EDID data?
[00:39] <histo> BillyZane2: So you activated the nvidia driver rigth?
[00:39] <Immatix> Does anyone know if Precise is ever going to receive dnsmasq 2.6+ ?
[00:39] <Vivekananda> 1. my laptop is old and I heard that 12 needs a little more powerful processor ( celeron is mine ) so should I upgrade. If I do how do I choose to keep it light ? Is gnome still as light?
[00:39] <histo> BillyZane2: did you confirm that it's active in jockey-gtk  ???
[00:39] <BillyZane2> histo: before doing the VGA to DVI swam, I tested this monitor with a DVI cable on another computer, everything worked normally.
[00:40] <roasted> histo: jrib: the money shot - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1567676/
[00:40] <BillyZane2> histo: i did a system update :( it's installing currently
[00:40] <roasted> jrib: I'll give -delete a test drive
[00:40] <DrManhattan> I'd be happy to see firestarter get a friggin DMZ mode. Who makes a firewall tool with no DMZ
[00:40] <BillyZane2> histo, NO I DID NOT, hwo do i do that?
[00:40] <BillyZane2> actually.. you mean the jockey drivers?
[00:41] <histo> roasted: you may want to use the -delete option of find
[00:41] <BillyZane2> i have to say something else.. my computer is running very slow. this is extremely strange as i have an intel i7 3770k. it shouldn't run 1/10th this slow
[00:41] <histo> BillyZane2: No remember I wanted you to enable the nvidia driver in hard ware drivers dialog?
[00:41] <BillyZane2> yup
[00:42] <histo> BillyZane2: then did you go back in hardware drivers and make sure it's enabled?
[00:42] <BillyZane2> updates almost done
[00:42] <BillyZane2> histo, i tested out all but the bottom driver
[00:42] <vagrantc> anyone know if building live CDs on ubuntu still uses the process mentioned here: https://lists.debian.org/debian-live/2011/06/msg00152.html ?
[00:42] <BillyZane2> i did the top, the second and third drivers, and used nvidia-xconfig
[00:42] <histo> BillyZane2: run xrandr in a terminal does it show higher resolutions availible
[00:42] <BillyZane2> these drivers were working before i did the DVI switch too
[00:42] <vagrantc> or a more appropriate place to ask about  ubuntu's live cd infrastructure?
[00:42] <BillyZane2> ok
[00:43] <subcool> rtorrent it commandline??
[00:43] <histo> subcool: yes rtorrent is a console based app
[00:43] <BillyZane2> Screen 0: minimum 8 x 8, current 640 x 480, maximum 16384 x 16384
[00:43] <BillyZane2> DVI-I-0 connected 640x480+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm x 0mm
[00:43] <BillyZane2>    640x480        59.9*+
[00:43] <BillyZane2>    320x240       120.1
[00:43] <FloodBot1> BillyZane2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:43] <BillyZane2> sorry
[00:43] <subcool> im stuck with vuze forever
[00:44] <histo> BillyZane2: can you pastebin the output of cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EDID
[00:44] <BillyZane2> sure
[00:46] <roasted> jrib: histo: -delete gives me the same errors, while -depth does not
[00:46] <BillyZane2> http://pastebin.com/LsmYUmJv
[00:46] <roasted> here's the paste with -delete: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1567685/
[00:47] <BillyZane2> histo: looks like that might be the problem
[00:47] <jrib> roasted: you're doing -delete before -mmin and you still have -exec....
[00:47] <histo> BillyZane2: What all did you do before to get higher resolution?
[00:47] <jrib> roasted: -delete actually deletes
[00:48] <roasted> oh, I didn't realize -delete was to replace -exec
[00:48] <BillyZane2> histo: all i had to do was install the display drivers before and do nvidia-xconfig
[00:48] <BillyZane2> histo: except there were some complications
[00:48] <Vivekananda> jrib: hey you gave me instructions about the upgrade. Could I have them again from ubotto
[00:48] <BillyZane2> however, it was working before very well
[00:48] <histo> BillyZane2: Yeah what complications?
[00:48] <roasted> jrib: look better? jason@Area51:~/Desktop$ find /home/jason/Desktop/test/* -mmin +1 -delete {} \;
[00:48] <jrib> Vivekananda: you can ask ubottu at anytime with /msg ubottu upgrade
[00:48] <jrib> !upgrade | Vivekananda
[00:49] <jrib> roasted: you don't need « {} \; »
[00:49] <BillyZane2> i'm not entirely sure, all i know is as soon as i did nvidia-xconfig , everything was fixed. but now that doesn't work anymore
[00:49] <roasted> jrib: look better? jason@Area51:~/Desktop$ find /home/jason/Desktop/test/* -mmin +1 -delete
[00:49] <Vivekananda> also care to comment on the upgrade. should I upgrade or remain with this one for  a less powerful comp
[00:49] <jrib> roasted: seems ok
[00:49] <BillyZane2> histo: before, i was getting very strange results, i mean.. my resolution was jacked up, i couldn't access my entire desktop so using my PC was difficult outside of terminal. this happened when installing nvidia-current
[00:50] <roasted> jrib: winner!
[00:50] <roasted> jrib: I assume that command doesn't work recursively at all? Does it simply look at the dirs within test and that's it?
[00:50] <jrib> roasted: find is recursive the -delete isn't
[00:50] <ajacom> Hi guys ... I installed Samba to attempt to access a Win8 PC. Upon trying to access it, I apparently mistyped the login name (or the domain ... got a little confused there). And now just double-clicking on the remote PC icon (in Browse Network), brings up an error inmediately... Thus Samba remembered my choice. How can I reset that and make Samba forget the pwd I entered? Thanks ...
[00:51] <jrib> roasted: just put a -print before -delete if you are unsure of the behavior
[00:51] <histo> BillyZane2: can you sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup   and try to restart.  If X breaks just sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:51] <roasted> jrib: if find is recursive... but delete isn't... would find "win" since it's capable of more?
[00:51] <BillyZane2> sure
[00:51] <jrib> roasted: I guess that's one way of looking at it
[00:52] <roasted> ajacom: I think that would actually be handled on the Windows side. I remember in XP there was a way somewhere deep in control panel to remove saved info.
[00:52] <ajacom> Wow really ?
[00:52] <roasted> ajacom: yeah.
[00:52] <ajacom> Hmm ok ..
[00:52] <roasted> ajacom: I don't think the server plays a role here at all. I'd bet my car if you used a Windows server instead of Samba you'd have the same issue.
[00:52] <BillyZane2> mv: missing destination file operand after `/etc/x11/xorg.conf'
[00:53] <roasted> pending you don't have a domain and identical credentials on the windows server, because then it would auto authenticate etc.
[00:53] <BillyZane2> hmm... one sec, lowercase x
[00:53] <histo> ajacom: edit the /etc/samba/smb.conf
[00:53] <roasted> jrib: if find is recursive, why would it not cause -delete to function outside of the test/* ??
[00:53] <BillyZane2> histo: mv: missing destination file operand after `/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[00:53] <ajacom> roasted: just for the record... when your windows8 username is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>... you shouldn't put "xxxx" in username, and "live.cl" in domain, right? (that's what i did)
[00:53] <jrib> roasted: what do you mean by "outside"?  you mean above it?
[00:54] <histo> BillyZane2: okay does cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf   display any output?
[00:54] <roasted> ajacom: I'm not entirely certain, but my educated *guess* would say that doesn't sound wrong... so sure?
[00:54] <roasted> jrib: yes
[00:54] <roasted> unless find is only recursive one way
[00:54] <jrib> roasted: yes, only one way
[00:54] <BillyZane2> histo: cat: /etx/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory
[00:55] <roasted> jrib: so it hits test and stops since that's the parent dir that was targeted in the command. Eh? That train of thought right?
[00:55] <BillyZane2> histo, i gotta leave for class in about 5 minutes
[00:55] <ajacom> histo: smb.conf seems to be holding the samba server configuration actually... nothing on the "Browse Network" part.... (Is that even controlled by Samba ? Or did it came with Ubuntu?)
[00:55] <jrib> roasted: just run "find" by itself and you will see every file it considers
[00:55] <histo> BillyZane2: I have no idea what is causing your issue. If you are running the nvidia driver IDK why you can't set a higher resolution. I'm assuming Xorg is having issues detecting your monitors capabilites. BUt I don't know why this would have worked before but would be failing now. Perhaps someone else can chime in.
[00:55] <jrib> roasted: or "find PATH" in this case
[00:56] <BillyZane2> histo: it's ok. thank you for trying
[00:56] <histo> ajacom: oh sorry. Got confused there. WHen did you get prompted for a password?
[00:56] <BillyZane2> histo: i think i'm going to try to get the video card's bios to be upgraded. i'll check to see if maybe i broke something inside the video card's display adaptor. that is unlikely though. i' gotta go now. thank you so much
[00:56] <roasted> jrib: thereby suggesting, what it displays, is what gets hit with whatever command issued - in this case, -delete. Eh?
[00:57] <ajacom> OK .. Something happened. =)... The password prompt magically reappared
[00:57] <jrib> roasted: no, because you didn't tell it the "-mmin"
[00:57] <ajacom> histo: I'm just trying to access my Win8 PC on the Browse Network part
[00:57] <ajacom> Got very confused with the username/domain/password, since Win8 usernames are<EMAIL_ADDRESS>or similar...
[00:57] <roasted> jrib: assuming all files older than 1 minute, and I run -mmin +1, THEN what I'm seeing here would be hit with whatever command issued... in this case -delete. Eh?
[00:58] <roasted> ajacom: the domain when authenticating against hte Samba server would be whatever it is in the smb.conf
[00:58] <roasted> ajacom: I didn't understand what you were asking at first.
[00:58] <roasted> ajacom: I believe smb.conf defaults to WORKGROUP
[00:58] <johnjacobjinger> i think i want to start a Linux for Car project
[00:58] <histo> ajacom: there may be some setting stored in a hidden folder in your ~
[00:58] <johnjacobjinger> or Ubuntu for Car rather
[00:58] <roasted> ajacom: from the smb.conf of my machine - # Change this to the workgroup/NT-domain name your Samba server will part of workgroup = WORKGROUP
[00:59] <ajacom> roasted: Yes, I have that set to "Casa", which is my home network's name.
[00:59] <johnjacobjinger> make an in-dash ubuntu machine with touch interface that offers GPS capabilities, audio, rear camera, and maybe a way to record everything your car does to act as a blackbox
[00:59] <ajacom> roasted: I have no problem entering Ubuntu from Windows8 though ...
[00:59] <jrib> roasted: yes.  Remember, find just evaluates expressions.  When you write "find -foo -bar" you should think of it as "find -foo -and -bar".  Find tries to find the value of the expression "-foo AND -bar".  If -foo is false, then it stops and never gets to -bar because it implies "-foo AND -bar" is false.  As long, as each expression is true though, find keeps chugging along.  Some expressions have side
[00:59] <jrib> effects (like -delete which deletes files)
[01:00] <Vivekananda> jrib: about the upgrade. Is 12.04 heavy ? and also advisable to upgrade now ( bug situations and all )
[01:01] <roasted> jrib: I understand. My only (and major) concern about this was making sure that it didn't go backwards. Last thing I want is to do find /home/jason/Desktop/test/* -mmin +1 -delete and it goes to test, then Desktop, then jason, etc.
[01:01] <jrib> Vivekananda: 12.04 has been out since april of last year.  So if you read the release notes, you shouldn't expect anything surprising (well when do you anyway? :P).  unity is probably a little more resource intensive than what you are coming from in gnome, but you can use unity-2d (just choose it at the login screen)
[01:02] <Vivekananda> jrib: I like to havee compiz like effects sometimes like desktop jump and I was using devilspie but not sure if that would work now or not
[01:02] <johnjacobjinger> gnome classic for me
[01:02] <ajacom> No avail... I just can't open the machine from here ...
[01:02] <ajacom> No biggie
[01:02] <johnjacobjinger> i cant stand unity
[01:02] <johnjacobjinger> gah
[01:02] <roasted> johnjacobjinger: give it time.
[01:02] <jrib> Vivekananda: how much ram do you have?
[01:02] <Vivekananda> 2 gig
[01:02] <roasted> johnjacobjinger: I was a one time hater, now I feel lost without it.
[01:02] <johnjacobjinger> roasted it doesnt play nicely with my media center
[01:03] <Vivekananda> celeron 1.6 ghz max
[01:03] <roasted> johnjacobjinger: how so?
[01:03] <Vivekananda> lower is 800 mhz
[01:03] <Vivekananda> for the cpu
[01:03] <johnjacobjinger> like the dock on the side doesnt disappear when i am playing my movies full screen
[01:03] <johnjacobjinger> the panels on top and bottom do just not the stupid dock
[01:03] <johnjacobjinger> using xbmc
[01:03] <dr_willis> johnjacobjinger:  theres known bugs and work arounds for that bug. but i dont see the issue with xbmc here on my  nvidia card.
[01:03] <roasted> johnjacobjinger: I'm running 12.04 with XBM Con my system. Unity bar hides when I laucnh XBMC...
[01:04] <roasted> Nvidia card here
[01:04] <Vivekananda> I have to run intensive tasks on this machine too sometimes ( I know :( ) but what to do . So I want a lightweight but functional manager like gnome
[01:04] <johnjacobjinger> i noticed it on my dell m4600
[01:04] <dr_willis> i even run xbmc on my Raspberrypi
[01:04] <dr_willis> ;)
[01:04] <johnjacobjinger> which has an nvidia 2000m
[01:04] <johnjacobjinger> but not a big deal gnome classic is pretty good imo
[01:05] <jrib> Vivekananda: hmm I don't know how well unity would run.  But if it gives you trouble, you have unity-2d, as well as xubuntu, lubuntu, and even gnome-classic available to you
[01:05] <roasted> dr_willis: I'd PM you but I forget how to do it over irssi. ONE quick question - does the Pi to video AND audio over hdmi?
[01:05] <dr_willis> gnome2 had some issues. ;)  the fallback gnome mode - was slated for removeable.
[01:05] <dr_willis> roasted:  yes. can do HD video over hdmi.
[01:05] <roasted> :)
[01:06] <pcve> google Enable/Disable Auto Hide For Unity 2-D Launcher In Ubuntu 11.10
[01:07] <linuxnoob> soooo complete noob question incoming:  I get a (initramfs) unable to find medium containing a live file system when I reboot during the install process.  It stays on the ubuntu load screen for several minutes then this error appears.  I know, I'm retarded, but I'd love an answer <3
[01:07] <Vivekananda> jrib: are these option avaialabe for switch out of the box or do I have to download each of these separately ?
[01:08] <jrib> Vivekananda: not sure.  unity-2d and gnome-classic might be.  The others definitely need to be installed after if you want them
[01:08] <Stewie> hello
[01:08] <w0rm-_x> guys whats the convenient way to open up a graphical user interface program from the terminal? can't remember it is it -gk?
[01:08] <johnjacobjinger> i had to install gnome classic
[01:09] <Vivekananda> hmm ok
[01:09] <dr_willis> w0rm-_x:  you mean any gui app> or a specific one?
[01:09] <w0rm-_x> dr_willis, like wireshark
[01:09] <dr_willis> w0rm-_x:  type its name ....
[01:09] <histo> dr_willis: Did they ever get working X driver for the pi's chipset?  Or atleast accelerated drivers?
[01:10] <hilarious> anyone familiar with SPF ?
[01:10] <dr_willis> w0rm-_x:   tab completion can help
[01:10] <dr_willis> histo:  they are being worked on. sort of a alpha state right now
[01:10] <w0rm-_x> dr_willis, there is a flag for GUIs for better performance
[01:10] <histo> dr_willis: Hrm.. That's the only thing thats holding me back.
[01:11] <histo> dr_willis: I may still order one to play around with. Where did you order yours?
[01:12] <locojay> hi just installed ssh on a system runing livecd in ramdisk. what is pwd
[01:12] <locojay> tried ubuntu and nothing but not success
[01:12] <Vivekananda> guys I have a question that has been bugging me for long . In movies and stuff they show that all comps are mostly windows cli s pop up but never see a gui interface in the background. Can I do something simiilar in unix??
[01:13] <geek4ever> locojay: try root
[01:13] <xsacha_> hi, is there a specific channel for ubuntu phone?
[01:14] <histo> locojay: I don't believe there is one for ubuntu  user
[01:14] <locojay> adding one via passwd
[01:14] <histo> locojay: take a look at /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow to be sure
[01:14] <locojay> and then logging in helps
[01:14] <locojay> i m in :)
[01:14] <histo> locojay: Why not just log in without one
[01:15] <locojay> did not work
[01:15] <locojay> no idea why via sshd
[01:15] <histo> Vivekananda: What? do you hvae a picture of what you are talking about?
[01:15] <histo> locojay: I thikn blank passwd's is disabled by default in sshdconfig
[01:16] <locojay> i guess it musst be
[01:16] <geek4ever> !ot |vivekananda
[01:16] <locojay> any idea why
[01:16] <locojay> hwinfo not in livecd
[01:17] <xsacha_> is there a channel specifically for the phone platform of Ubuntu?
[01:17] <histo> locojay: it's unsecure
[01:17] <histo> locojay: lspci
[01:17] <histo> !phone | xsacha_
[01:17] <locojay> just try to get a raid0 controller back to work and checking stuff
[01:17] <Vivekananda> geek4ever: thanks I will use that :)
[01:18] <xsacha_> thanks
[01:19] <dougl> "sudo apt-get update" and what other command updates my system?
[01:20] <steven> apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:20] <steven> aptitude safe-upgrade, aptitude full-upgrade
[01:21] <OerHeks> apt-get upgrade
[01:23] <dougl> cant get a straight answer in here - I'll try google.
[01:24] <Guest13197> Alright folks! I've got an incredibly frustrating issue that I'm hoping someone can see through and give me a chance at running Ubuntu on my computer finally. :( I've got a Gigabyte Z77-D3H motherboard and no matter how I install my Windows 7 Pro x64 copy I can't get Ubuntu to recognize that it exists. I've tried using "EFI ROM" and "Legacy ROM" BIOS settings and installing both by using the "UEFI" and the "SATA" options for the drive
[01:24] <aeon-ltd> dougl: those were straight answers
[01:24] <OerHeks> dougl sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade is the usual routine to update
[01:24] <seekwill> Hello. I just installed 12.10, and enabled FDE. When I'm setting up my user, it asks me about encrypting my Home folder. What is the difference between that and FDE?
[01:24] <Shayde> hey guys
[01:25] <dougl> I must be misunderstanding then - apologies.
[01:25] <Guest13197> Will pay for working solution that doesn't involve manually installing a boot loader and 8 conversions of boot partitions ;)
[01:26] <dougl> what does sudo apt-get dist-upgrade do?
[01:26] <Aszurom> doesn't that bring you current to the latest and greatest release?
[01:26] <aeon-ltd> dougl: upgrade the versions of ubuntu
[01:26] <histo> Guest13197: did you install windows first?
[01:27] <Shayde> I'm using wubi to install ubuntu on my windows 7 computer but i keep getting an error when i first select ubuntu from the boot options saying: "error: cannot read '/dev/sda' : Input/output error" followed by a different colored screen with "Invalid ROM contents, no valid vbios image found" then it goes into the ubuntu splash screen that says "checking disk drives for errors"
[01:27] <magpiie> hi
[01:27] <histo> seekwill: it would just encrypt your home directory instead of the whole disk
[01:27] <Aszurom> apt-get upgrade will upgrade packages in the current point release version, but dist-upgrade will bring the whole system to the latest point release -- right?
[01:27] <magpiie> how can i find out if my isp is blocking ports to my connection?
[01:27] <Shayde> that is the error that is stopping me from completing the installation
[01:28] <Guest13197> histo: Sure did. I've got an essentially blank HDD at this point that I'm installing to because I've cleared it trying to get it to work.
[01:28] <histo> !upgrade > Aszurom
[01:28] <histo> !dualboot | Guest13197
[01:28] <zykotick9> Aszurom: dist-upgrade is the same as full-upgrade.  upgrade everything.
[01:28] <aeon-ltd> dougl: oh wait that's a lie. it removes obslete packages and adds dependencies
[01:28] <aeon-ltd> dougl: 'do-release-upgrade' upgrades distributions
[01:28] <Aszurom> yeah, I was asking in assisting the other guy who had asked it.  That's my "I think this is the answer" reply
[01:29] <magpiie> i can access the internet, but i cannot use utorrent or teamspeak or connect to the battlestar gallactica online game. something is blocking my ports
[01:29] <histo> Guest13197: it's pretty straight forward. Install Windows... Leave free space for ubuntu. then install ubuntu it will see that windows is there when it installs grub. I would avoid EFI since you have that ability. Making it easier on yourself.
[01:29] <aeon-ltd> magpiie: check your firewall
[01:29] <locojay> hi i have a Marvel Raid -Chip 88SE9230 and running under livecd.. i can see it in lscpi on pci port 4 . but the drive is not mounted ? do i have to use dmraid?
[01:29] <MattDNJ> I have ubuntu installed on several machines but when I try to install on a Dell Inspiron 560 64 bit dual core E5800 Pentium, the install media freezes and never completes the boot process.   Is there a way that I can modify the install on my thumb drive to be able to step through the install and identify the specific issue?
[01:29] <histo> magpiie: Did you install a firewall?
[01:30] <magpiie> it was working fine erlier today, then my pc stopped connecting to certain sites, as well as my laptop and my friends pc in his room
[01:30] <Shayde> anyone have any ideas with my error?
[01:30] <magpiie> i rebooted the router, my pc, my laptop, my friends pc runs on Debian and he is having the same issue
[01:30] <histo> MattDNJ: I would try the alternative install disk. make sure your media is good
[01:30] <aeon-ltd> magpiie: same network?
[01:30] <histo> !automate > MattDNJ
[01:31] <magpiie> yup, all running through the same router
[01:31] <histo> magpiie: then It's your router or isp
[01:31] <Guest13197> histo: Sounds simple enough, right? The problem is I've attempted to but it won't allow me. The "ubuntu will see that windows is there"
[01:31] <Guest13197> part doesn't happen
[01:31] <histo> Guest13197: then you can manually add the windows entry to grub
[01:31] <seekwill> histo: Ah ok. So I don't need both right? Just FDE will do fine?
[01:31] <histo> !grub2 > Guest13197
[01:31] <aeon-ltd> magpiie: then your router might be the one restricting it
[01:32] <Guest13197> No matter that method/mode I install Windows in and then boot to ubuntu with (EFI/Legacy ROM) Ubuntu doesn't recognize that Win7 is on the HDD.
[01:32] <magpiie> how can i find out if my isp is blocking ports?
[01:32] <histo> seekwill: Right unless you want double encryption
[01:32] <seekwill> histo: Na, not storing any CIA secrets. Thanks!
[01:32] <histo> Guest13197: can you see the windows partitioon from inside of ubuntu?
[01:33] <Shayde> This error is saying Invalid ROM contents, no valid VBIOS image found when I am trying to install ubuntu through wubi
[01:33] <Guest13197> histo: I see. So Install Win7 in "Legacy ROM" mode, then boot to Ubuntu LiveCD. Install on empty partitoin space, and then manuall add Win7 to GRUB2?
[01:33] <Guest13197> histo: Yep
[01:33] <histo> magpiie: if it was working earlier I'm willing to bet one of your routers is just acting wacky right now.
[01:33] <histo> Guest13197: yeah if during the install process grub doesn't find windows you'd have to manually add it.  Make sure you install grub to the MBR
[01:34] <histo> Guest13197: perhaps you may want to read the uefi stuff as well. Just incase that's what is going on.
[01:34] <histo> !uefi | Guest13197
[01:36] <MattDNJ> histo, I think I have tried that.  I tried 32bit, a variety of settings, different versions, etc.   Fedora also dies the same way.   There must be a hardware issue.
[01:37] <histo> MattDNJ: have you checked your media?
[01:38] <MattDNJ> Yes.   After it failed on that machine I successfully installed on another.  I ran through the check too.  I've tried several different versions and media.
[01:38] <Vivekananda> hello everyone. I have a pretty old card on my computer too and lucid was working but nto sure if pangolin will
[01:38] <MattDNJ> I've done everything I could find on line so far.   I want to rid the family (this is the family computer in the kitchen) of Windows 7.
[01:38] <Shayde> anyone have any input on my error? this is getting frustrating hahahaa
[01:38] <CT1> Is tremulous dead? Is it not in the repos anymore?
[01:40] <histo> MattDNJ: maybe there is an issue with that specific media and that machine.  try a netinstall or something.
[01:40] <Shayde> anyone there?
[01:41] <barbs_> how can i remove my nvidia driver command line?
[01:42] <locojay> do i need a driver for the marvel 88SE9230
[01:42] <MattDNJ> histo , I've tried DVD and Thumb.  I've tried expert mode with server, etc.  It craps out at the hardware scan.  The trace takes over the screen so I can't really see what's up.   Can I get a shell at that point?
[01:42] <Gerowen> What's the best way to clone a partition?  Let's say I have a ~441 GB partition with Win7 on it, and I want to clone it so that it can be restored later, but I don't want the image to be 441 GB because most of that 441 GB is free space.
[01:43] <Gerowen> Nvm, just noticed the "Disks" utitlity has a "Create Image" option, I'll try that out and see how it works.
[01:44] <MattDNJ> I think I tried ctrl alt f2.  Should that work?
[01:44] <Gerowen> Next question, let's say this works just fine, and I want to remove all Windows partitions from my hard drive and extend the Ubuntu partitions to take up the remaining space, is there a way to "safely" extend an EXT4 partition so it would take up free space on the drive?
[01:44] <Shayde> can someone help me please? :(
[01:45] <aaamourao> hello, I am with some trouble. I wanna replace Windows Boot Manager for GRUB. I searched in google, but anyone of the tutorials I found solved my problem. Can anyone help me? :)
[01:46] <Gerowen> Shayde: I just got here, what's your problem?
[01:47] <aaamourao> \msg Shayde Yes, use gparted and you can do it
[01:47] <Shayde> :D Alright so I'm trying to install ubuntu 12.10 using wubi on my windows 7 laptop, everything goes fine until when i boot into it, it repeats this error: "error: cannot read '/dev/sda' : Input/output error" followed by a different colored screen with "Invalid ROM contents, no valid vbios image found" then it goes into the ubuntu splash screen that says "checking disk drives for errors"
[01:47] <Gerowen> aaamourao: You can use the command "grub-install" to install grub to a particular hard drive.  I haven't used it in a long time, but "grub-install --help" should give you some useful flags to use with it.
[01:48] <Guest23275> Howdy. I've just recently install 12.10 x64 on my laptop. I wanted to install GNOME 3.6 and followed this page to do so: http://akovid.blogspot.com/2012/11/how-to-install-gnome-36-in-ubuntu1210.html . I restarted with no issue. When I try to log in, I select GNOME (not classic), but it seems to always run GNOME classic.
[01:49] <Guest23275> Where can I start to look to debug this and run the gnome 3.6 inerface
[01:49] <Shayde> Gerowen: it would just keep repeating that cycle.
[01:49] <diverdude> Generally speaking, which USB-wireless dongles works for linux and which ones dont? Is it all intel works and all broadcom dont?
[01:50] <Gerowen> Shayde: To be honest, I've never encountered that problem, you must have bought a communist computer or something, :P
[01:50] <Gerowen> Shayde: Did it come with Win8?
[01:50] <Shayde> Gerowen: Windows 7, it's getting so frustrating hahaha
[01:51] <Gerowen> Shayde: You can use the Ubuntu DVD to install it alongside Windows, during the steps where it partitions your hard drive, there is an option to resize your Windows partition to make room for Ubuntu.
[01:51] <Gerowen> Shayde: I've heard of some people having issues with Wubi on some hardware.
[01:51] <Shayde> i don't have any CDs laying round that are big enough :( Could I use a USB drive?
[01:52] <Gerowen> Shayde: Yep, I used a USB drive.  I did it, there's tons of programs out there to let you format a thumb drive and extract an ISO to it and make it bootable.
[01:52] <Gerowen> It's how I got it on mine because I didn't have any CDs either.
[01:53] <Shayde> Gerowen: any path you can point me to that you suggest? hahaha
[01:54] <Gerowen> Shayde: Lemme get the name of a program for you that works with Windows, I don't remember the name of it.
[01:54] <danielmuu> 哈哈
[01:57] <Gerowen> Shayde: Look at UNetbootin
[01:58] <Shayde> Gerowen: Thank you! I'll give it a try
[01:58] <Gerowen> Shayde: It has a Windows version and has built in options to download ISOs for a lot of Linux distros, or you can select an ISO you have already downloaded.  It does all the formatting for you, hope it works out, :-)
[01:58] <Newbuntu> In the file explorer, when I click on a certain partition, can anyone tell me what it means if it says "Adding read ACL for uid 999 to '/media/volumename' failed: Operation not supported. BTW I'm really new at this so don't assume anything is set up properly.
[01:59] <Vivekananda> what is the "first point release" ? What does it mean . Mentioned on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades
[02:00] <seekwill> Vivekananda: 10.04.1 <-- the .1
[02:00] <Vivekananda> ubottu: upgrade
[02:00] <Vivekananda> ok seekwill thanks
[02:01] <Vivekananda> seekwill: I have a an old comp with very celeron and graphics. Lucid had drivers for it but will I get issues in precise for it ?
[02:01] <seekwill> Vivekananda: I think it should work fine, maybe slower perhaps?
[02:02] <seekwill> I haven't used a Celeron in a very long time :)
[02:02] <Vivekananda> seekwill: that is what I Dont want
[02:02] <xning> Hi, I cannot install emacs23-nox-dbgsym
[02:02] <Gerowen> ubottu: grub
[02:02] <Vivekananda> tell me something . if I go for something like flux or l will it matter a lot ?
[02:02] <Vivekananda> usability and stuff
[02:02] <xning> There's dependent problem
[02:03] <Vivekananda> or what should I dot to keep it fast enough
[02:03] <xning> I have installed the emacs23-nox,and aptitude complains this problem
[02:04] <Vivekananda> ?
[02:05] <seekwill> Vivekananda: I love fluxbox :)
[02:05] <Vivekananda> seekwill: The question was directed at that was for you :)
[02:05] <Vivekananda> ok so if I get flux box then what can I not do it it that I can do in gnome
[02:05] <seekwill> Vivekananda: I would buy a new computer :P
[02:05] <Vivekananda> I like to stick with gnome
[02:05] <seekwill> Why not stick with 10.04?
[02:05] <Vivekananda> seekwill: That would solve everthing but got not money
[02:06] <Vivekananda> I am fine with 10.04 only two issues
[02:06] <Vivekananda> first it is going out of date soon
[02:06] <seekwill> Vivekananda: Your computer went out of date already :P
[02:06] <Vivekananda> second I need to somehow install emacs24 in it
[02:06] <Vivekananda> seekwill: I know that . A long time back but it is my fav girlfriend so
[02:06] <Vivekananda> I wont part and it works fine for my needs :)
[02:07] <Vivekananda> so anyways
[02:07] <Vivekananda> fluxbox howto ?
[02:08] <seekwill> Why can't you install emacs24 on it?
[02:13] <Vivekananda> seekwill: hold on
[02:15] <aeon-ltd> stay classy shojo.
[02:16] <sahar> hi
[02:16] <aeon-ltd> hi
[02:17] <sahar> i am seeking help on ubuntu andriod support
[02:19] <seekwill> heh
[02:19] <Vivekananda> seekwill: I followed this link and no results https://launchpad.net/~cassou/+archive/emacs
[02:19] <Vivekananda> it says repo not found in the last step
[02:20] <djmitche> this is a long shot, but here goes - I'm using a Kickstart script to set up Ubuntu, and it stops at the "This is an overview of your .. partitions" page.  I have 'clearpart' and 'part' options in the KS config.  What would be missing that would cause it to stop?
[02:21] <seekwill> Vivekananda: http://d.pr/i/crtv/51eSwUgC Did you click on the green link and install the repo?
[02:23] <Vivekananda> seekwill: I will do all and paste output for you
[02:24] <immortal_> Hello. I just tried to install gnome 3.6 on 12.10. I can only use the gnome classic shell (even if I select "GNOME" at the login screen). Should I try to remove gnome3 completly and try again?
[02:27] <aeon-ltd> immortal_: if you can kill the guis and and managers try starting gnome 3.6 from the terminal
[02:28] <dr_willis> so you used a PPA for gnome 3.6 ?
[02:30] <immortal_> aeon-ltd, Would that just be running gnome-session?
[02:31] <immortal_> dr_willis, I used this: http://akovid.blogspot.com/2012/11/how-to-install-gnome-36-in-ubuntu1210.html
[02:31] <mechlior> Does anyone know if there are issues with ubuntu connecting to the net if you use wubi to install?
[02:31] <seekwill> mechlior: It's usually better if you stated what your issue is
[02:33] <dr_willis> i cant even read the 'commands' they are showong on that site.. the color scheme is so bad...
[02:33] <dr_willis> mechlior:  wubi has lots of issues.. but the drivers and networking shoul dbe the same as a normal install
[02:33] <mechlior> Im sorry, i installed ubuntu 12.10 via wubi and the network connections find my ethetnet port and show a mac address, but keeps sayin that my wired connection is disconnected.  I reboot back into windows and the internet is running fine.
[02:34] <dr_willis> what kind of wired network card do you have? theres some bugs with some drivers for some of them..
[02:34] <seekwill> mechlior: In Linux, does it show you have an IP address? Or just mac? In Windows, are you using DHCP?
[02:37] <mechlior> Im using an onboard ethernet controller from gigabyte model 900fxa-ud7 and doesnt show an ip anywhere.  The dchp is built into my router, but i cant even get to that in ubuntu
[02:37] <mechlior> Excuse me its 990fxa-ud7
[02:37] <dr_willis> mechlior:  you may want to pastebin the output of ifconfig and lspci
[02:38] <mechlior> Im still kinda new to linux, so do i just type those into the terminal?
[02:38] <dr_willis> you  have no networking at all on that machine right now?
[02:39] <mechlior> No, i have it plugged in, but i cant reach my router settings via browser
[02:40] <vidd> stupid question here im sure ... what happened to the "ALT" cd?
[02:40] <dr_willis> mechlior:  start with simple command  line tests...     can you  ping your router?    in terminal... ping  ###.###.##.###    Where the ## is the ip of your router
[02:40] <dr_willis> vidd with 12.10 - its gone
[02:41] <dr_willis> mechlior:  second command line test   the output of th e'ifconfig' comand - does it show a eth0 or eth1 device? does it show an ip# for that device.
[02:41] <vidd> dr_willis: will the live cd give the ltsp install option?
[02:41] <dr_willis> vidd no idea. never used lstp.
[02:41] <dr_willis> !lstp
[02:42] <mechlior> Umm, im connected here on my tablet, so is there someting i should look for in ifconfig?
[02:42] <dr_willis> not evcen sure what  lstp is. ;)
[02:42] <mechlior> It shows eth0
[02:42] <dr_willis> the first few lines should mention a eth#   device. then below it.. some numbers.. like an ip#
[02:42] <dr_willis> <IP_ADDRESS>  or similer..
[02:42] <vidd> ltsp = linux terminal server project
[02:43] <mechlior> It shows a inet6 ip address, but no ipv4
[02:43] <dr_willis> hmm.. whats the ipv6 address its showing
[02:43] <vidd> dr_willis: ltsp = linux terminal server project
[02:43] <vidd> dr_willis: thank you for your time
[02:44] <Super_Dog> Just ran some updates on 12.04 LTS and my machine is running way faster...  Seems like there must have been some improvement to the GUI or X.org or something...  Anybody else notice?
[02:44] <Super_Dog> This is just a low-end ATom box small form factor system with built-in Intel graphics adapter...
[02:45] <mechlior> Fe80::52e5:49ff:fe40:e8ea/64
[02:45] <dr_willis> and for 'inet addr' its just empty?
[02:45] <bee> I want to learn Ubuntu so should I first learn Debian ?
[02:45] <mechlior> Its not even showing
[02:45] <dr_willis> I dont know enough about ipv6 to know whats supposed to be there
[02:45] <BIGBOOMBA> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 12.10 on a Dell Inspiron 13z that came with Windows 8 pre-installed. I have created a partition for it and used the Universal USB Installer to put the iso onto an 8 gb sd card (that i inserted into the laptop using an adapter). This laptop uses UEFI instead of a BIOS, and the windows bootloader has a .efi extension, so I have to install ubuntu in EFI mode. The problem is that I'm fairly sure that UUI for
[02:46] <BIGBOOMBA> not a GPT.
[02:46] <petersaints> rolling
[02:46] <mechlior> Me either...
[02:46] <dr_willis> bee:  if you know linux fundamentals first.. it wont matter what disrto you use.
[02:46] <bee> Preior I have worked on Fedora and CentOs
[02:46] <Donnie_Darko21> hello folks i have some problems with my google chrome, i have 12.04 lts the problem is video on youtube its like something like smal points small parts are flying on the video
[02:46] <mechlior> Should i try manually adding a ipv4 address?
[02:47] <dr_willis> mechlior:  at least it is showing a eth0   thats a good sign.
[02:47] <dr_willis> you could try the command 'sudo dhclient eth0'   that might  kick it into gettting an ip from your dhcp server
[02:47] <BIGBOOMBA> As it stands, the only way to get the UEFI to try booting from the SD card is to switch it to Legacy Boot mode, and when I start the laptop in that mode with or without the SD card inserted I simply get a black screen and the message, "Operation System not found."
[02:47] <bee> in Fedora I use yum command but in Ubuntu apt is used (if i am correct) so a little confusion
[02:48] <mechlior> Yeah, it atleast sees my controller,
[02:48] <fishcooker> opensync ubuntu 12.04
[02:48] <fishcooker> is removed
[02:48] <fishcooker> there is another candidate
[02:48] <dr_willis> !apt | bee
[02:48] <fishcooker> ?
[02:49] <BIGBOOMBA> I turned Secure Boot off, but I think I need to set the SD card up to have the image and a GPT, not a MBR. The UUI tool doesn't have an option for this.
[02:49] <dr_willis> mechlior:  i cant understand why there would be ipv6 shown.. but no ipv4.. that just seems weird. My Unplugged  eth0 shows neither.
[02:49] <BIGBOOMBA> Either that, or I'm doing something else wrong.
[02:49] <tomsloan> Hi guys. My home folder is currently limited to about 13 gigs even though the partition it's in is about 115 gigs. Is there any reason for this and how do I expand it to use the whole partition?
[02:49] <eye_> whois eye_
[02:49] <dr_willis> tomsloan:  you  made a seperate home partion? check output of the mount command if not sure.
[02:50] <mechlior> Yeah, ive never had a problem before....
[02:50] <Donnie_Darko21> what is wrong with google chrome ,i usually use firefox more often but in some way now i have problem with youtube video on chrome
[02:50] <RollinV2> tomsloan, you might have a swap file of 2gigs
[02:50] <mechlior> Hmm should i get my ip settings from windows and manually set it up?
[02:51] <BIGBOOMBA> It can't be a hardware issue, because the Dell Inspiron 13Z is certified as compatible with Ubuntu. So it's gotta be something with the damn UEFI (which seems to have been invented to make it harder to install linux on PCs that come with windows pre-installed).
[02:52] <tomsloan> RollinV2 is right, more or less. An installation how-to told me to use a Linux swap inbetween my OS X partition (I'm on a MacBook) and my Linux partition of about 1 GB. What now?
[02:52] <dr_willis> mechlior: are yu using dhcp in windows? if not then you will want the same settings
[02:53] <mechlior> I got by manually setting it up, it just wouldnt do it automatically.  Thanks for your time
[02:53] <BIGBOOMBA> right now i'm reading this: http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/index.html
[02:53] <BIGBOOMBA> right track?
[02:53] <RollinV2> tomsloan, how much RAM does your macbook have?
[02:53] <tomsloan> 2 gb
[02:53] <Donnie_Darko21> its really weird why firefox video works fine and chrome youtube video have problem , java is update ,flash update but on chrome YOU USE NOW THE GREAT VERSION OF CHROME  i have problem now
[02:53] <RollinV2> tomsloan, if its less than 4gb id highly recommend keeping the swap file in place
[02:53] <bee> thanks "<ubottu>"  it means that there is no need to learn Debian first to switch into Ubuntu server side ?
[02:53] <fishcooker> is there any option for package opensync
[02:54] <RollinV2> tomsloan, for systems with 4+ gb its safe to not use the swap. but everyones opinion will differ.
[02:54] <dr_willis> bee: they will be 90% the same
[02:55] <dr_willis> bee: learn what you plan on using.
[02:56] <dr_willis> !find opensync
[02:56] <bee> basically i usually use command like in prepairing Fedora server so plz can you guide me more for the command line tutorials so I may configure squid and Samba server on Ubuntu
[02:56] <tomsloan> @RollinV2 Ok, so the swap file limits the size of the Home folder? Is there any way to allow Linux to utilize the whole partition and maintain the file swap?
[02:56] <dr_willis> bee: most of that core stuff will be udentical
[02:57] <Donnie_Darko21> where i can send log file or etc crash report for google chrome
[02:57] <dr_willis> ssh in. edit configs..   basic server admin tasks
[02:58] <heyulin> quit
[02:59] <ryan_> im having an issue where no apps are showing in either unity or gnome 3.6 in ubunt 12.10. can anyone help me with that?
[02:59] <RollinV2> tomsloan, type "df -h" in your terminal and paste the output to paste.ubuntu.com
[03:00] <ryan_> @rollinv2 are you taking to me?
[03:00] <dr_willis> tomsloan:  a swap file takes up space. it dosent limit home. except that it uses space on the hd
[03:00] <RollinV2> ryan_ errrr.. don't think so unless you changed your nick within the last minute
[03:00] <ryan_> oh ok ha, sorry
[03:01] <RollinV2> ryan_ np, its cool. irc can be confusing with the replies.
[03:02] <ryan_> yeah im rather new here, after staring at a forum page with no replies for 2 hours i figured id jump on here...
[03:03] <dr_willis> ryan_:  does the guest user account work correctly?
[03:04] <tomsloan> Dr_willish, just pasted it there at past.ubuntu.com
[03:04] <ryan_> ill check in a second. here is my full issue...
[03:04] <dr_willis> we need the full url to any pastes......
[03:06] <ryan_> so i was in gnome for the first time today, and i came across an app called "software" and clicked on (highlighted) the stock gnome browser as i wanted to uninstall it. i clicked in the bottom left where it said "delete". as i lifted my finger off the trackpad, i realized that EVERY APP ON MY MACHINE WAS SELECTED by a blue check box. i panicked and immidiatly held down the power button on my laptop turning it off, hoping to kill it
[03:06] <ryan_>  before everything was gone. when i booted back up and logged into gnome and everything was gone. not one single app would show. nothing. so on a whim i logged out and logged into unity and the same thing happened. Whats queer is that when in unity, any app i have docked to the launcher still works without a hitch, making me think everything is still there. if i go to "file system -> usr -> lib" there is still a bunch of stuff in t
[03:06] <ryan_> here.
[03:06] <FloodBot1> ryan_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:06] <tomsloan> @dr_willis http://paste.ubuntu.com/1567921/
[03:07] <ryan_> dr_willis i posted full issue in the paste bin
[03:08] <ryan_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1567926/
[03:09] <ryan_> if you would like to see screenshots of my issue, i posted it in a thread online ...here is the url http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2108515
[03:09] <dr_willis> 'gone' is a vague term.... do you mean the icons are not showing? or what exactly
[03:09] <ryan_> dr_willis i will try the guest account and get back on irc, be back in five.
[03:10] <ryan_> oh ok
[03:10] <ryan_> i mean in the unity lense they dont show
[03:10] <ryan_> like the tab on the bottom that looks like a house, there are only 18 apps
[03:10] <ryan_> but if i click the comb like icon there are 118
[03:11] <ryan_> and when im in gnome, there is simply no apps to speak of....like they are just gone
[03:11] <dr_willis> tomsloan:  your / patition is almost full. its under 20gb in size to begin with.. you got some other partion   thats 100+gb and only 1% fill
[03:12] <ryan_> if you jump to the url i posted to ubuntu forums there are several screenshots of the issue
[03:12] <dr_willis> 'no aps  they are gone;'   you mean the ICONS are gone?  or the applications button shows nothing?
[03:13] <dr_willis> its hard for me to read some sites - since im on my phone
[03:13] <dr_willis> in eithe rcase.. id test with a guest user. then test with a newly made user.
[03:13] <dr_willis> if those work properly. then id look into resetting the problem users settings
[03:14] <tomsloan> @dr_willis can I merge those two partitions without loosing anything?
[03:14] <tomsloan> losing*
[03:14] <ryan_> k ill test with guest and brb!
[03:16] <dr_willis> tomsloan:  you can resize partions with Gparted from a live ccd.
[03:16] <dr_willis> tomsloan:  since one is aparently empty.. you could  delete it and enlarge the other perhaps.
[03:17] <dr_willis> tomsloan:  you tell us.. whats on the 100+gb partion thats  aparently close to empty. ;;)
[03:17] <tomsloan> actually, I'm pretty sure it's a screwed up linux-mint partition
[03:18] <dr_willis> look whats on it..  if you dont need it .. delete it. or convert it onto a seperate /home/ for your user to use
[03:18] <tomsloan> I thought I deleted it with Gparted and put Ubuntu on there. That would explain why my efi manager is screwed up.
[03:18] <dr_willis> 13gb for /  is way to tiny for my systems   :) i use 30gb for / normally
[03:19] <dr_willis> even my reapberry pi has a 32gb  sd card for its //
[03:19] <tomsloan> I'm with you there Dr_Willis. I only installed Ubuntu this week and it's full. So it's quite frustrating. Anyways, thanks for the help!
[03:26] <trwpqz> admittedly unrelated to ubuntu, but I figure someone here might know: what kind of cable is this? http://i.imgur.com/pQ3zc7b.jpg
[03:28] <penguinman> trwpqz: a coax from the look of it
[03:28] <Vivekananda> seekwill
[03:28] <Vivekananda> still there?
[03:28] <trwpqz> penguinman: seems like you're right, thanks!
[03:28] <Super_Dog> trwpqz:  A second for coaxial.
[03:28] <trwpqz> it's where my internet explorers come from, as they say
[03:28] <Super_Dog> Might want to check the grade on that one...
[03:29] <ryan_> @dr_willis i cant log in as a guest.... i use the gnome 3.6 login screen and there is no option for it....
[03:30] <Super_Dog> trwpqz:  better get a handle on those Internet Explorers.  they can get pretty feisty...
[03:31] <bee> when we first time install ubuntu in the desktop pc,it does not ask to add root user password as Fedora and Centos ask durning instllation . So how can I use root account instead of normal user ?
[03:31] <ryan_> but anywho, when in unity, i open the dash and it says i have only 18 apps, i actually have over 100, when i click the "pencil and ruler" at the bottom of the dash it shows all 118
[03:31] <hektac> bee: sudo or su
[03:32] <trwpqz> Super_Dog: I was trying to buy an extension for that cable so that I can have my internet explorers further away from the wall, but couldn't for the life of me find out through my rusty google-fu. Thanks!
[03:32] <bee> so when we use su "Switch User" it will not ask the password ?
[03:32] <ryan_> ^^that is useable, the biggest issue is in gnome 3.6 there is nothing, i hit "apps" button and its blank, my launcher is blank....its all blank...no apps
[03:33] <Mkop> for some reason, there is suddenly no sound on my computer. no volume control, nuthin'. how do I go about figuring out why?
[03:34] <ryan_> mkop check "sound settings" and make sure the right speakers are selected in "output"
[03:34] <Super_Dog> "Rusty google-fu"...  Classic.  I'm saving that one.
[03:35] <ryan_> then check to see if there is anything stuck in the headphone jack...like a crumb or lint
[03:36] <Mkop> interesting.... headphones work. there is nothing stuck in the headphone jack
[03:36] <_t4nn3r> how do I double check to make sure that /dev/sdb refers to the device that I think it does?
[03:36] <Mkop> probably something on the software level that's only playing to the headphones rather than choosing based on whether headphones are inserted
[03:37] <Mkop> ryan_: do you know how I can get to sound settings in lubuntu?
[03:38] <ryan_> nope, but in ubuntu i can either click the sound icon on my top bar, and sound settings is on the bottom, or i can go to the dash and type "sound settings"
[03:38] <trwpqz> _t4nn3r: does your device have an activity led?
[03:38] <Super_Dog> Mkop: Right click on sound icon on upper right corner of taskbar - sound settings.  At least that is the way in Ubuntu.  Not sure if Lubuntu is different.
[03:38] <ryan_> should be in your apps, not to famillar with lubuntu
[03:38] <trwpqz> _t4nn3r: you could dd -if=/dev/sdb -of=/dev/null and watch out for blinking lights
[03:39] <_t4nn3r> trwpqz: nope
[03:40] <trwpqz> _t4nn3r: and I take it there aren't any partitions on it that might hint at which one it is?
[03:40] <_t4nn3r> How do i view the partitions? fdisk -l doesn't give me anything
[03:41] <trwpqz> _t4nn3r: hrm, fdisk -l should
[03:41] <ryan_> can anyone help with this ... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=210851
[03:42] <ryan_> no apps are showing in gnome, and they are "half showing" but useable in unity, full issue and screenshots at URL
[03:42] <trwpqz> _t4nn3r: you might get more info from udevadm info -a -p $(udevadm info -q path -n /dev/sdb)
[03:44] <_t4nn3r> trwpqz: A little verbose, but it does the trick
[03:44] <trwpqz> _t4nn3r: or smartctl --all /dev/sdb if you have smartmontools
[03:47] <dr_willis> ryan_:  its hard to tell if its a  gnome shell ppa issue. or your apt  disaster issue.. or whats going on..  id have to suggest backing up any imporntant data firsst. ;) then perhaps try removeing the gnome ppa you are using. and remove the newer gnome-shell stuff.. then try reinstalling the  ubuntu-desktop package. and try  to get back to a known sane state
[03:48] <ryan_> thanks doc. I do a lot of cloud computing, i use google Drive, and i dual boot, and keep all my files backed up in win7....i might just start over :(
[03:49] <dr_willis> a forced powering off while apt is working is never a good idea. ;)
[03:49] <dr_willis> you could just try reinstalling the ubuntu-desltop package also. that might sort things out
[03:49] <ryan_> lol yeah...
[03:49] <ryan_> ok ill try. THANK YOU!
[03:51] <muqc> Danielmu_: hh
[04:01] <BillyZane2> hey dr_willis
[04:01] <dr_willis> moo!
[04:01] <BillyZane2> dr_willis: how is it going?
[04:01] <BillyZane2> i have a problem. lol
[04:01] <BillyZane2> well... i got sound to work by using my on board sound
[04:01] <BillyZane2> but i have a new problem regarding my video card
[04:01] <BillyZane2> something no one can fathom or fix
[04:02] <BillyZane2> not even MSI tech support
[04:02] <BillyZane2> are you up for it dr_willis  ?
[04:02] <dr_willis> cant say ive ever called tech support in my entire life. ;)
[04:02] <BillyZane2> haha
[04:03] <BillyZane2> ok.. here goes...
[04:03] <dr_willis> i doubt if i can be of any help. I always use older nvidia cards that work fine.
[04:03] <BillyZane2> when we got my video card to work a few days back, i had my video card going from my monitor's VGA port, to a vga cable, to a VGA to DVI converter to my video card's DVI port
[04:04] <BillyZane2> I had this setup because I thought my DVI connector wasn't working a long time ago. I decided though to test it out again to see if it would work
[04:04] <BillyZane2> I took my monitor to a shop where the dude hooked up my monitor to a computer with a DVI cable. everything was good. my screen resolution was as it should be
[04:04] <BillyZane2> I am happy at this point. So i bring back my monitor to my house where I think it's just a simple matter of swapping the VGA cable for a DVI
[04:05] <BillyZane2> this is where the problem begins. When I use DVI in windows, I can only do 1024x768 max resolution
[04:05] <BillyZane2> this problem is also felt in the bios, in the boot up, and in Ubunutu
[04:05] <BillyZane2> I try and try to fix it, nothing works. So now i've switched back to VGA. In windows, my resolution has restored
[04:06] <BillyZane2> however, in Ubuntu, I can't get my resolution past 640x480
[04:06] <BillyZane2> i've tried switching drivers, i've tried nvidia-xconfig
[04:06] <BillyZane2> a helpful hint that might solve the problem is this...
[04:06] <BillyZane2> http://pastebin.com/LsmYUmJv
[04:07] <dr_willis> if dvi in windows is not even giving the proper res. that sounds like the monitor is not reporting the proper res to the system
[04:07] <dr_willis> id test this with a differnt monitor or tv
[04:07] <BillyZane2> dr_willis: That sounds like it's the issue, but this monitor along with this DVI cable was able to work flawlessly on another computer
[04:07] <hektac> what kind of card is it
[04:07] <BillyZane2> hmm... actually.. i might be wrong on that
[04:07] <BillyZane2> it's an nvidia GTX 660
[04:08] <dr_willis> other computer/card/ may have done some assumptions..
[04:08] <hektac> what driver are you using?
[04:08] <BillyZane2> i'm using the 310 drivers i believe.. let me check
[04:08] <dr_willis> id test with a difffernt monitor and see if it does in fact work.. that would  narrow it down to a monitor isssue or not.
[04:08] <hektac> ^
[04:09] <BillyZane2> i'm using nvidia binary xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU library from nvidia-current-updates(proprietary)
[04:10] <tech936> anyone know the output of this ??  date -u +%V$(uname)|sha256sum|sed 's/\W//g'"?
[04:10] <BillyZane2> i've tried installing alternative driers, 2 others in particular, and i did nvidia-xconfig on both occasions, i rebooted my computer. no result. NOTHING seems to work
[04:10] <BillyZane2> my resolution and video card was working perfectly fine, then suddently when I hot swapped the VGA for true DVI, everything went to garbage
[04:10] <BillyZane2> and nothing works even if i go back to VGA, which is what i'm using now
[04:10] <dr_willis> you can custom make a xorg.conf and try to force various resolutions, or use xrandr. but ive not needed to do that in years
[04:11] <hektac> that really sounds like a monitor issue then
[04:11] <hektac> or the port on your card perhaps
[04:11] <tech936> anyone atall know the output of this??? My ubuntu just flew this on the screen and said whats the output
[04:11] <BillyZane2> i think i ran xrandr earlier, what does that do again?
[04:11] <dr_willis> ive  seen hot swapomg video cables cause shorts/issues.. and if its an old card. that may have finally been the  little kick it needed
[04:11] <BillyZane2> hektac: it does. but this monitor on this setting works fine on windows
[04:11] <dr_willis> !xrandr
[04:12] <hektac> its a 660 so its not that old
[04:12] <BillyZane2> i just bought in
[04:12] <dr_willis> xrandr is how you can configure things on the fly
[04:12] <BillyZane2> it
[04:12] <dr_willis> a new card witha  vga port and not a hdmi? that is odd.
[04:12] <BillyZane2> let me run xrandr real fast
[04:12] <BillyZane2> dr_willis, : i'm using a VGA to DVI converter
[04:12] <dr_willis> xrandr has all sorts of cli options to force specific res;s
[04:12] <BillyZane2> it's going through DVI, but it's connected to a VGA cable
[04:12] <dr_willis> vga to dvi converter can cause issues also
[04:13] <cub> is there a way to easily show the desktop on ubuntu 12.04?
[04:13] <hektac> do you have the option of using HDMI?
[04:13] <cub> like minimize all windows?
[04:13] <BillyZane2> hektac: i do not
[04:14] <hektac> billy- I had a similar issue with my 570, I had to set grub to load ubuntu with "nomodeset" and I had to instsall the nvidia drivers manually (downloaded from their site), since then no issues and I run off HDMI and dvi
[04:14] <BillyZane2> i don't mind trying that
[04:14] <dr_willis> cub when i alt-tab theres a desktop item there for me.
[04:15] <BillyZane2> dr_willis: should i try xrandr and force the resolution higher?
[04:16] <BillyZane2> i was told it was an EDID issue by someone
[04:16] <BillyZane2> http://pastebin.com/LsmYUmJv
[04:16] <BillyZane2> from that log, it looks like the monitor's EDID information is not being detected, thus the screen resolution
[04:17] <dr_willis> BillyZane2:  no reason to not try.... or go buy a new monitor....
[04:17] <dr_willis> vga-dvi converters can mess with edid info
[04:17] <BillyZane2> i've been using this vga-dvi converter this whole time
[04:18] <BillyZane2> i got my computer to work with a good resolution, using VGA-DVI converter. the way i have it setup now is how it always was. Now suddenly there's no resolution...
[04:18] <BillyZane2> Dr_willis i think i figured it out
[04:18] <BillyZane2> there's a subtle detail
[04:18] <BillyZane2> that i left out
[04:18] <BillyZane2> Before, I was using a 5 foot VGA cable
[04:18] <BillyZane2> it allowed my computer to detect my screen resolution, which is 2048x1152 without any issues
[04:19] <BillyZane2> right now, although I have a high screen resolution in windows, I'm only using 1080p, and when I manually set it to 2024x1152, the quality is severely degraded. this means that the longer VGA cable is interfering with the EDID information
[04:20] <BillyZane2> is this hypothesis plausable?
[04:20] <dr_willis> cant say ive ever seen  a vga monuitor that could do 2048x1152  that seems an odd red.
[04:20] <dr_willis> res.
[04:20] <BillyZane2> could i still manually increase the screen res in xrandr ? if so, how?
[04:20] <dr_willis> i havent used vga in years.. but it can have interfearance
[04:20] <BillyZane2> it is an odd res
[04:21] <dr_willis> check the xrandr docs. it might not work properly wioth the nvidia drivers.
[04:21] <BillyZane2> it's a special res used for working with 2 documents side by side.. 2048x1152 that is
[04:21] <BillyZane2> i have the nvidia drivers installed evidently
[04:21] <dr_willis> so this is a rather rare monitor then.
[04:21] <BillyZane2> i don't mind trying 1920x1080 though
[04:21] <BillyZane2> dr_willis: the resolution is, yes. however, I was working on this res with the 5 foot cable
[04:22] <BillyZane2> dr_willis: I could go to my friend's house and get my 5 foot cable back i suppose, i traded it for a 25ft cable that turned out to be horrendous
[04:22] <BillyZane2> I've been going through a cable ordeal lately
[04:23] <dr_willis> 25 ft for vga would be extreme for vga i would iomagine
[04:23] <BillyZane2> it has horrible ghosting. I'm using a 15 foot cable right now which is the smallest I could find over 6 feet
[04:23]  * dr_willis recalls his large box of differnt cables and stiff.. dont ghink i got any vga over 6 ft long
[04:24] <BillyZane2> But I believe the 15 foot cable might be the issue, the EDID information is being degraded
[04:24] <dr_willis> i do have a 25ft hdmi cable. ;)
[04:24] <BillyZane2> unless of course i'm totally wrong on this and it's impossible for that to occur
[04:24] <BillyZane2> long cables are horrible unless you have a signal booster from what i've read
[04:24] <dr_willis> im not even sure if vga  uses edid info.. been so long siince i last used it
[04:25] <dr_willis> i switched to dvi/hdmi and havent looked back
[04:25] <BillyZane2> lucky u :)
[04:25] <dr_willis> soon to be all hdmi on my systems
[04:25] <hektac> some VGA connectors do, but apparently that isn't standard
[04:25] <BillyZane2> i have a 6 foot DVI cable too... it's so ridiculous that I can't use it
[04:25] <BillyZane2> it's perfect size
[04:26] <BillyZane2> i will try to look up xrandr documents online
[04:27] <Hyperiant> When you make a bootable LiveUSB, isn't the entire file system kept in a single large, compressed file?
[04:28] <BillyZane2> i found a command
[04:28] <Hyperiant> I'm seeing a gigantic filesystem.squashfs file, and there's a casper-rw file for persistence that's 4GB
[04:29] <Hyperiant> If that's the case, then doesn't this cause more lag than a "full" install of Ubuntu, which (I presume) just places files in their respective folders on the drive instead of within a huge file?
[04:31] <dr_willis> the changes are stored to the casper-rw file
[04:31] <dr_willis> and yes. a live install is gong to be slower then a full install
[04:31] <dr_willis> and have other limits
[04:31] <Hyperiant> Is there a way I can put a full bootable install on a USB drive?
[04:31] <dr_willis> You can do a full install to a usb.. same as you would to a internal HD
[04:32] <Hyperiant> Does it work if you move PCs?
[04:32] <dr_willis> same steps.. be sure that grub is goin gto the usb
[04:32] <dr_willis> iit can work
[04:32] <dr_willis> of course moving to a ati based pc   when you ahve nvidia drivers installed can be an annoyance
[04:33] <dr_willis> live-usbs biggest advantage is differnt hardware detection that should work on most systems.
[04:33] <Hyperiant> hmm
[04:33] <dr_willis> but you are going to have a challange getting the  nvidia or fglrx driers working on a live-usb
[04:33] <dr_willis> ive used a 32gb usb as a main system drive for months
[04:34] <Hyperiant> I just bought a 32GB myself, and I'm hoping to use it as a main system drive for my laptop
[04:34] <Hyperiant> But I also want to be able to go to other PCs and boot from it
[04:34] <dr_willis> it should boot.. but depending on whats on the other pcs - some drivers may  not work..
[04:34] <dr_willis> and if you update grub. it may detect the other pc's extra os;s
[04:34] <dr_willis> which then wont work  if you move it to a difffent pc...
[04:35] <dr_willis> but ubuntu should still boot
[04:35] <BillyZane2> dr_willis: I tried xrandr --size 1920x1080 and it says "size 1920x1080 not found in available modes"
[04:35] <Hyperiant> I made a live USB using the help articles on the Ubuntu website; should I delete everything off of the drive before I install "full" Ubuntu?
[04:36] <rsflynn> list
[04:36] <dr_willis> BillyZane2:  i think theres a force option. ive not used the command in years
[04:36] <BillyZane2> i'll check online
[04:37] <dr_willis> Hyperiant:  the installer repartions and reformats..
[04:37] <Hyperiant> oh.
[04:38] <Hyperiant> I heard something about ext2 working better than ext3 for small drives
[04:38] <Hyperiant> Should I do that for my 32GB?
[04:38] <dr_willis> i use ext4
[04:39] <dr_willis> dosent really seem to matter to me from what ivbe done with it
[04:39] <Hyperiant> More accurately, the Ubuntu help pages say that ext2 has low overhead
[04:40] <dr_willis> i doubt if you will be able to tell the differance
[04:41] <BillyZane2> dr_willis: I used xrandr --fb 1920x1080 , but the problem now is that my desktop environment is one giant black square with the desktop on the top left corner, and I can move around this black void with my mouse
[04:42] <dr_willis> guess thats progress. ;)
[04:42] <dr_willis> you still using that converter?
[04:42] <BillyZane2> lol
[04:43] <BillyZane2> this video card does not have a VGA port so I have to use it
[04:43] <BillyZane2> unless I switch to DVI, which go tme in trouble in the first place
[04:43] <dr_willis> i would be using dvi and trying the xrandr commands with it
[04:43] <BillyZane2> I have to also mentioned that the first time i switched to DVI, i was on windows and i blue screened
[04:44] <BillyZane2> dr_willis: I wouldn't be able to get proper res with DVI in windows though. this is so not cool you know?
[04:44] <dr_willis> windows can bluescreen if you look at it funny
[04:44] <BillyZane2> i'm so angry
[04:44] <Hyperiant> Windows is very bsod-happy
[04:44] <BillyZane2> i can't believe this is happening
[04:44] <dr_willis> if you can force the proper res in linux. thers similer tools in windows
[04:45] <BillyZane2> ok
[04:45] <BillyZane2> I can't get this to work
[04:45] <jordo> Anybody able to help out a n00b?
[04:45] <jordo> lawl billy zne
[04:45] <dr_willis> the  dvi 2 vgs converter is just adding a nothe rlayer of  potentisal problems
[04:45] <ryebread761> Jordo: what ya need?
[04:45] <BillyZane2> dr_willis, : should i just switch to pure DVI
[04:45] <jordo> Meld Diff directory comparison help
[04:45] <dr_willis> BillyZane2:  i think ive said to use dvi several times now. ;)
[04:45] <dr_willis> TOSS vgs...
[04:45] <BillyZane2> ok
[04:46] <dr_willis> or use vga without that converter
[04:46] <dr_willis> for all we know the converter CANT do the higher ress
[04:46] <dr_willis> it may have limits
[04:46] <Hyperiant> Can I partition part of a drive that's on another computer in my network and use it to boot Ubuntu?
[04:46] <jordo> ryebread: you familiar with Meld?
[04:46] <dr_willis> Hyperiant:  you can netboot one pc. from a differnt pc on the lan...
[04:47] <dr_willis> but you havce to setup special services on the server
[04:47] <BillyZane2> dr_willis: it won't let me run using DVI at all
[04:47] <BillyZane2> my computer is totally blank
[04:47] <BillyZane2> the monitor won't even turn on
[04:47] <Hyperiant> you sure that cable works?
[04:47] <dr_willis> you did power DOWN and switch cables then powerd back up?
[04:48] <BillyZane2> i did not
[04:48] <jordo> Zane: you running off a Mobo or graphics card?
[04:48] <dr_willis> hot swaping video can really confuse things
[04:48] <BillyZane2> Hyperiant, : this cable was used with this monitor on another computer and it worked. also, i get signal in windows
[04:48] <BillyZane2> jordo: graphics card
[04:48] <BillyZane2> ok, how about this, i'll power down, switch, power up
[04:48] <jordo> in your bios settings, is the PCI express card set as default for video out?
[04:48] <jordo> sometimes you have to set it
[04:48] <dr_willis> some nvidia cards turn OFF the other ports if you power on and nothing is connected to them
[04:49] <BillyZane2> jordo: I don't know. I do have the on board graphics on though
[04:49] <Hyperiant> If Ubuntu formats my flash drive, can I still use Windows to access the files on it?
[04:49] <jordo> zane: Try going into your bios setup and looking for something along the lines of "default monitor output" or something. it'll either be VGA or PCI i think
[04:50] <dr_willis> Hyperiant:  thats another advantage of a live-usb setup.. it uses fat32...  a full install would use ext* and thus windows wont know what to do with it
[04:50] <dr_willis> the various ext* reader tools for windows.. i found rather flakey
[04:51] <Neytiri> how do you mount a LVM drive?
[04:52] <confuzzled-studi> The command, or the tools?
[04:52] <BillyZane2> i will try rebooting and using the DVI
[04:52] <Neytiri> both, i am having to recover data from a system that got sabatoged
[04:52] <histo> BillyZane2: is there a reason you want to use DVI?
[04:52] <BillyZane2> histo: At this point i just want it to work. But ideally, it's so I can connect both of my computers to my monitor without a KVM switch
[04:53] <rsflynn> do you know the name of the LVG?
[04:53] <histo> BillyZane2: how are you goijng to switch between dvi and dsub on your moniotr?   most don't ahve that capability
[04:53] <Hyperiant> Could I partition a part of the drive as FAT32 and format the rest as ext*?
[04:53] <confuzzled-studi> look through synaptic for LVM toolkits, and then read their instruction manuals; or you could download a distro like backbox or backtrack and use their live DVD's to mount, check, possibly repair, and backup the data off the drive
[04:54] <BillyZane2> there's a button on the monitor that says source, i can switch from VGA to DVI input
[04:54] <histo> BillyZane2: does the other computer have dvi?
[04:54] <BillyZane2> histo: actually, yes
[04:55] <BillyZane2> histo: :O
[04:55] <Misty_> hello
[04:55] <BillyZane2> histo, i will try connecting the other computer
[04:55] <histo> BillyZane2: so use vga on this one and dvi on the other for the time being. rather than wasting all this time trouble shooting a wierd issue
[04:55] <Misty_> hello
[04:55] <confuzzled-studi> backbox is slightly more geared for something like that than backtrack - it's more tooled for pen-testing
[04:55] <BillyZane2> histo: i don't mind doing that, but at this point, even the VGA does not work
[04:55] <Misty_> hello
[04:55] <BillyZane2> histo: as soon as i did the switch, it was an irreversible blunder
[04:55] <Misty_> hello
[04:55] <histo> BillyZane2: what do you mean doesn't work?  like only low res?
[04:55] <Misty_> hello
[04:56] <Misty_> someone say hello
[04:56] <BillyZane2> histo: yes, the low rest (640x480) is all i can do on ubuntu now, even in VGA
[04:56] <Misty_> really someone say hello
[04:56] <Hyperiant> Misty_: hi
[04:56] <Misty_> thankyou
[04:56] <Misty_> hello
[04:56] <rsflynn> Hello Misty!
[04:56] <Misty_> hello
[04:56] <confuzzled-studi> Ubuntu did something weird like that on my P4 desktop, the DVI output stopped working for some reason after I booted live
[04:57] <histo> BillyZane2: okay well it's not the cable then or the dvi vs. vga
[04:57] <Misty_> hello
[04:57] <histo> BillyZane2: Its still a problem with the driver
[04:57] <histo> !nvidia | BillyZane2
[04:57] <Neytiri> rsflynn,  yes i think its LVM2_member
[04:57] <Misty_> hey hey hey
[04:57] <histo> confuzzled-studi: his dvi is working fine.
[04:57] <bradd> BillyZane2: I had that issue after using a kvm.. I had to manually add the modes with 'xrandr --admode (connection name) XxY
[04:57] <histo> !ot |  Misty_
[04:58] <bradd> --addmode*
[04:58] <Misty_> hello
[04:58] <confuzzled-studi> Neytiri: LVM2 is the LVM- group, the dirve should have a different name
[04:58] <Neytiri> dm-3 maybe?
[04:58] <Misty_> how are u guys going
[04:58] <bradd> BillyZane2: in my case it was 'xrandr --addmode VGA-1 1920x1080'
[04:58] <Misty_> how r u guys going
[04:58] <BillyZane2> bradd, let me try that
[04:59] <BillyZane2> histo: sorry about me leaving for a bit
[04:59] <histo> Misty_: do you have a Ubuntu related question
[04:59] <BillyZane2> give me 1 minute
[04:59] <bradd> it probably won't be VGA-1.. I forget how I found out the interface name
[04:59] <Hyperiant> Can you make Ubuntu format a drive as NTFS instead of ext*?
[04:59] <Hyperiant> In installation, I mean
[04:59] <histo> Hyperiant: yes
[04:59] <Misty_> no
[05:00] <Misty_> i mean hi
[05:00] <rsflynn> What error are you getting at boot exactly?  Can you boot? Do any of your drives error out?  Have you run a repair?
[05:00] <histo> !ops
[05:00] <BillyZane2> bradd: addmode is an option, but it won't let me use it
[05:00] <BillyZane2> one second, let me see if i can connect my second computer to this using DVI
[05:00] <Hyperiant> histo: Are there any disadvantages to using NTFS instead of, say, ext*?
[05:01] <histo> Hyperiant: yes
[05:01] <Confuzzled> yes, writeability
[05:01] <histo> Hyperiant: why would use want to use ntfs on a linux install?
[05:01] <rsflynn> Yes, NTFS support is "experimental" in Ubuntu...
[05:01] <Hyperiant> I want to be able to install full Ubuntu to a USB but still be able to read the files off the drive on a standard Windows PC
[05:01] <Confuzzled> 'nix has some fs-tools for read/write on NTFS volumes, but their not quite release-version, yet
[05:01] <dr_willis> Hyperiant:  you dont do a full install to NTFS...
[05:02] <histo> Hyperiant: create another partition on the usb drive that's fat32
[05:02] <BillyZane> Hi, this is BillyZane
[05:02] <histo> Hyperiant: Or you can use unetbootin it creates a fat32 partition and installs ubuntu there.
[05:02] <BillyZane> I am on my windows box
[05:02] <dr_willis> you can easially have a extra partion on the usb thats fat32 or ntfs
[05:03] <BillyZane> holy crap, my screen resolution is capped in this computer too
[05:03] <histo> Hyperiant: http://www.pcworld.com/article/230527/ubuntu_linux_day_16_ext4_vs_ntfs.html
[05:03] <BillyZane> it's definately the monitor or cable
[05:03] <dr_willis> given how cheap 32gb usb are... ;;)
[05:03] <BillyZane> if it's the cable, i'm going to punch the dude i bought it from in the nose
[05:03] <dr_willis> cables are made cheap...
[05:03] <Confuzzled> yeah, keep your nix installs on an ext3 partition, at least, and maybe have a fat32 partition for a swap/share
[05:03] <histo> BillyZane: Then it's the EDID data not getting back from the monitor
[05:03] <dr_willis> this is your 25 ft vga cable?
[05:03] <Misty_> hello
[05:03] <Misty_> people
[05:04] <Misty_> hello people
[05:04] <bradd> BillyZane: I had that issue using a kvm.. I had to add the modes i wanted manually
[05:04] <histo> BillyZane: you can work around that in linux by adding modes to your xorg.conf
[05:04] <Misty_> someone please talk to me
[05:04] <BillyZane> this is a 6 foot used single link DVI cable that I bought off some dude in some ridiculous corner office that's about to get fucked up
[05:04] <histo> Misty_: if you don't have a ubuntu related question please move along
[05:04] <dr_willis> Misty_:  you  have an actual ubuntu support question?
[05:04] <IdleOne> !language | BillyZane
[05:04] <Confuzzled> does anyone off the top of their head know the VESA monitor mode for 1920 * 1080 x 32-bit?
[05:04] <Misty_> no
[05:04] <BillyZane> sorry
[05:05] <histo> IdleOne: he did waste a day of time messing around with it though.
[05:05] <dr_willis> there used to be x modeline generator web sites that would  take your input and show a modeline to put in the xorg.conf
[05:05] <Confuzzled> I'd really like to be able to hard code it into my LILO so I don't have to set the "ASK" flag for video
[05:05] <IdleOne> histo: that doesn't change the rules of this channel.
[05:05] <dr_willis> LILO? how old skool
[05:05] <histo> IdleOne: I know but just to give you some insight to his frustration
[05:05] <BillyZane> ok... at least I know it's not the computer
[05:05] <Hyperiant> histo: I already had a Live USB on there, but I'm told that using a full install of Ubuntu significantly increases performance
[05:05] <IdleOne> histo: I don't need your insight, thank you.
[05:06] <Confuzzled> I'm actually running a dual-boot with Ubuntu Studio and Slackware
[05:06] <Confuzzled> And I vastly prefer LILO to GRUB2
[05:06] <dr_willis> Hyperiant:   its more flexiable at least
[05:06] <histo> Hyperiant: yes if it's running off a hard drive you will see a performance increase
[05:06] <koumorileo> anyone know of a link for info on the wireless adapter drivers to use in ndiswrapper  for Emachines eME528 laptop?
[05:06] <histo> wow
[05:07] <dr_willis> koumorileo:  the exact chipset of the driver will be more  mporntant then the brand. see what lspci says about the card
[05:07] <histo> koumorileo: what wireless chipset is it?
[05:07] <Confuzzled> do you know the driver for the emachines?
[05:07] <Confuzzled> or the chipset?
[05:07] <koumorileo> ok ty
[05:07] <koumorileo> ill get that in a min ... i'm helping a friend over chat
[05:08] <Hyperiant> histo: I suppose my hesitance to use a live is that it seems to work the same way as a dual-boot, and the dual-boot installed on my other PC's hard-drive seems to handle installing things really poorly; Ubuntu Software Center never finishes "applying changes" and I have to install everything by terminal or else it never finishes
[05:08] <bradd> BillyZane: you might be able to do a 'xrandr' to find the display name (such as DFP1, etc) then do a "xrandr --addmode DFP1 --mode 1920x1080"  (or whatever mode you want)
[05:08] <histo> Hyperiant: well I'd look into why it's doing that; as it's not normal behavior.
[05:09] <Hyperiant> histo: I did a little research and it's not an isolated issue, but nothing I've tried has fixed it
[05:10] <Confuzzled> What are you dual-booting hyperiant? You describe something like what I've recently been dealing with - the packager never finishing
[05:11] <Hyperiant> XP and latest Ubuntu
[05:11] <Hyperiant> 12.10 I believe
[05:11] <Confuzzled> yeah, I' running UStudio 12.10, and Slack14 - I had that for a bit, and then I did a fresh install of UStudio, and it worked right.
[05:12] <Confuzzled> But it overwrote my /boot partition with GRUB2, and I've been having a lotof random weirdness on the Slack side since
[05:12] <BillyZane> ok... i'm going to try something different... I have a second VGA cable lying around here. I'll try hooking up my computer to this new cable, which I know has worked in the past to get high resolutions (it has ghosting issues which is why I don't use it), and see if it works then
[05:13] <histo> BillyZane: Please try both computers with it. So we can illiminate ubuntu as being the problem.
[05:13] <amoma> gnome terminal wants to install fonts < echo 0 #do not work
[05:13] <amoma> whats wrong?
[05:13] <Confuzzled> hyperiant, have you been having issues with your package source headers? or your sources timing out as well?
[05:13] <jackson_> can some one change the is bug to critical? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/1058040
[05:13] <histo> amoma: what?
[05:14] <Hyperiant> Confuzzled: I'm not sure what the former means, and if the latter means what I think it does, then no
[05:14] <amoma> histo,  how to turn off fonts auto install
[05:15] <histo> amoma: if they are package requirements you cant
[05:15] <amoma> gnome try to install fonts for binaries
[05:15] <Confuzzled> hyperiant, when you go to reload your package sources list, rebuild your package database, you get some http/ftp time-outs, or it being unable to reach sites
[05:15] <histo> amoma: what package are you trying to install?
[05:16] <amoma> histo, i can , this is linux, do you know how ?
[05:16] <[x_]> anyone here using squid + squidGuard?
[05:16] <Hyperiant> I don't recall getting timeouts from my mucking about in the console
[05:16] <zykotick9> amoma: you could try --no-install-recommends but i wouldn't be surprised if the fonts are depends
[05:16] <Confuzzled> I have used squid before in the past
[05:16] <[x_]>  i'm trying to figure out why my squidGuard setup isn't working. I have the following in squid.conf:url_rewrite_program /usr/local/bin/squidGuard -c /usr/local/etc/squid/squidGuard.conf
[05:16] <[x_]> with my squidguard conf set to : http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1565269/
[05:16] <[x_]> however if i go to a url in the ads file, such as merchants.netstep.net, it is not blocked
[05:16] <[x_]>  and we can see squidGuard running, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1565277/
[05:16] <[x_]>  i built the db files, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1565275/
[05:16] <FloodBot1> [x_]: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:17] <histo> amoma: What package are you trying to install?
[05:17] <[x_]> whoopsie
[05:17] <Confuzzled> ok, that was one of my chief problems I had with the installer not completeing properly, and how I ultimately got it fixed
[05:17] <amoma> --no-install-recommend < where to inject this option?
[05:17] <amoma> histo, ?
[05:17] <zykotick9> amoma: with apt-get from terminal
[05:17] <histo> amoma: I don't know how else to state that question to make it easier to understand.
[05:18] <BillyZane2> YOU GUYS
[05:18] <amoma> histo this is not related to installation, it is in user mode
[05:18] <BillyZane2> Igot my display to work. The problem was YET ANOTHER FAULTY VGA CABLE. AHH!!!!   Is not related to installation?
[05:19] <histo> amoma: wth are you trying to do?
[05:19] <histo> BillyZane2: Whatever wire sends EDID is probably disconnected
[05:20] <BillyZane2> histo: do you think If I use a dual link DVI cable, it will work?
[05:20] <BillyZane2> I'm going to serious kill someone
[05:20] <BillyZane2> no, i'm going to kill some eggs
[05:20] <[snake]> Where are all of the fonts at? (like the directory) I am using ubuntu 12.04 64bit
[05:20] <BillyZane2> i'm going to make some eggs and eat it furiously
[05:20] <amoma> histo, it is aoing , the box popup with message :: gnome-terminal wants to installl fonts, any time i open in gnome terminal a binary file
[05:20] <histo> BillyZane2: I don't know what a dual link cable is
[05:20] <BillyZane2> histo, thank you so much once again
[05:21] <BillyZane2> histo: there are several types of DVI cables. dual link has 2x bandwidth, there are also cables with analoge+ digital. i think i should get the supreme cable. some DVI cables don't have all the pins
[05:21] <histo> amoma: How are you "opening" binary files?
[05:21] <amoma> histo, i looking at that file in raw mode
[05:21] <BillyZane2> histo: dual link and single link don't have ths ame number of pins
[05:21] <BillyZane2> but they are cross compatible
[05:21] <histo> amoma: What is your native language?
[05:21] <Confuzzled> x_ it looks like you're squid.conf is set up to pass all ads through, and your redirect section is commented out, but it's been a couple of years since i've had to set it up
[05:22] <amoma> so i can see all and swith to hex
[05:22] <histo> amoma: perhaps use a hex editor
[05:22] <Confuzzled> snake: /usr/share/fonts
[05:22] <Hyperiant> I made a live USB using the Universal USB Installer; do I have to enable persistence manually?
[05:23] <Confuzzled> yes, hyperiant
[05:23] <amoma> histo, if you dont know ... its ok. I asking if you know how to turn this off, Thats it
[05:23] <histo> amoma: i've never seen it so no I don't.
[05:24] <amoma> histo,  perhaps you never looked at binary file
[05:24] <dr_willis> Hyperiant:  been easier to tell it to use perisstance whenyou made it..
[05:24] <histo> amoma: With what?
[05:24] <amoma> histo, it is only on x gnome, it will not happen if x is off
[05:24] <Confuzzled> I've never looked at a binary file in terminal
[05:24] <histo> amoma: What are you using to view the binary you aren't making any sense
[05:24] <histo> You can't gnome-terminal some file foo
[05:25] <Hyperiant> dr_willis: I made a persistence file through the installer (I'm redoing the drive, had wiped it in anticipation of installing full Ubuntu), will this enable persistence without any further input?
[05:25] <amoma> oh my good, do you really getting intrest to inspect binary code ?
[05:25] <Confuzzled> You can open binaries in some programming editors, but i try to avoid code if at all possible
[05:25] <chamunks> is there a command that I can rewrite my MySQL root password via the commandline for somereason its not working anymore on my Ubuntu lamp setup
[05:25] <chamunks> I really need to figure this out quicktime.
[05:25] <dr_willis> Hyperiant:  you are not making sence.. if you do a full isntall.. then it dosent use the persstance file...
[05:25] <histo> Wow fail
[05:26] <amoma> it is perfectly safe to inspect what is in binaries, who you scare ?
[05:26] <histo> amoma: gnome-terminal cannot edit binaries
[05:26] <Confuzzled> it should, depending on the live usb creation tool
[05:26] <histo> amoma: or view them
[05:26] <Hyperiant> dr_willis: I've been urged by chat to just use a live USB, as it provides more compatibility without a significant lag increase
[05:26] <amoma> i do not want edit, i want to see
[05:26] <archzombie> Can I download the ubuntu phone beta? I have a galaxy nexus by sprint, is it available for that?
[05:26] <histo> amoma: well you can't with gnome-terminal
[05:26] <amoma> or rather search
[05:26] <Confuzzled> Hyperiant, my preference is unetbootin
[05:27] <histo> !phone > archzombie
[05:27] <dr_willis> Hyperiant:  then you  are not doing a full install.. you just use the live installer maker thing...
[05:27] <histo> amoma: You need to use a hex viewer or editor
[05:27] <amoma> definietly i can i do this for years
[05:27] <histo> amoma: really how?
[05:27] <Confuzzled> amoma: opening in a proggramming editor doesn't mean you have to edit, but terminal isn't equipped by default to handle opening binary files for inspection
[05:27] <amoma> now i getting this upset message on ubuntu
[05:28] <Confuzzled> yeah, open up your files using emacs or jed or joe or something
[05:28] <histo> amoma: gnome-terminal is just a X terminal nothing more
[05:28] <amoma> ok in terminal i opening midnight commander
[05:28] <histo> amoma: Okay so you are using mc to look at a binary
[05:28] <Confuzzled> wrong program to try to open a binary file in
[05:28] <histo> jesus
[05:28] <amoma> but this do not mater since it is fro gnome terminal
[05:28] <Hyperiant> dr_willis: I'm using it, but do I need to enable persistence in Ubuntu or will it be automatically enabled when I boot into it?  Also, is there a way to turn off the try/install thing and make it take less time to boot up?
[05:29] <Confuzzled> mc will attempt to run it, notshow you the code
[05:29] <dr_willis> Hyperiant:  you tell the installer tool the size of the peristantce file to use.. and it uses it
[05:29] <amoma> Confuzzled, < as you say
[05:30] <Confuzzled> hyperiant, if you've got persistence set up when you installed it on the thumb-drive, it should work automagically, and you can't really turn off the try/install thing unless you do a different sort of install
[05:30] <Hyperiant> Confuzzled: different sort?
[05:31] <histo> amoma: Are you using F4 to view the hex?
[05:31] <amoma> so where is con fig file controlling install of all the alien fonts ?
[05:31] <histo> amoma: possibly in gconf somewhere.
[05:31] <Confuzzled> hyperiant, try unetbootin for your thumb-drive, I think you can use it to install to a usb as if it were an SSD HDD, rather than a thumb-drive with an *.iso on it
[05:31] <dr_willis> alien fonts?
[05:31] <amoma> histo, f4 f8 depends what i look for
[05:31] <histo> amoma:And when does the prompt for fonts come up?
[05:32] <amoma> dr_willis, klions for example,
[05:32] <Hyperiant> Confuzzled: Yes, but then comes the issue I was talking about before; it also needs to be read/writable by any Windows PC
[05:32] <dr_willis> i just drag/drop new fonts into my   .fonts directory   ;)
[05:32] <dr_willis> or double click on them and use their installer tool
[05:32] <amoma> histo, the prompt is pop up box gnome related
[05:32] <histo> dr_willis: he is saying that when he looks at a hex editor in gnome-terminal it prompts him to install fonts
[05:33] <Confuzzled> hyperiant, you can create a seperate FAT32 partition on the drive as a swap/share /home
[05:33] <dr_willis> cant say ive ever seen a hex editor need any extra fonts,
[05:34] <dr_willis> there are terminal  based hex editors thata would use the normal terminal fonts also.
[05:34] <histo> dr_willis: rigth I have no idea wth he is talking about either
[05:34] <amoma> histo, i searched all etc and .hiden for string fonts and all combination, i asking for help second day
[05:34] <dr_willis> histo:  this seems to be the day for confusons
[05:34] <Hyperiant> Confuzzled: I'd like to keep as much Windows-accessible space as possible because I don't know how much I'll be using, but at the same time I'm not sure how much Ubuntu space I'll be using, and it'd be a pain to constantly keep expanding partitions and/or reformatting
[05:34] <histo> amoma: I've never seen gnome-terminal prompt for a font installation
[05:35] <dr_willis> Hyperiant:  best answer.. get a 2nd usb flash  drive. ;))
[05:35] <histo> amoma: and based on some google searches I don't believe it does.
[05:35] <Confuzzled> hyperiant, another option you might consider would be to use one of the many system configuration tools to create a live-cd based off of the distribution and customizations of the ubuntu-box you're using,
[05:35] <Hyperiant> dr_willis: I may very well do this, haha
[05:35] <Confuzzled> hyperiant, what size drive are you using?
[05:35] <histo> Hyperiant: What is your ultimate goal here?
[05:36] <Confuzzled> ^^^^^
[05:36] <Hyperiant> Confuzzled: 32GB
[05:36] <histo> omfg
[05:36] <histo> Hyperiant: that's plenty of space for a seperate storage partition
[05:36] <Confuzzled> What's you're ultimate goal with all of this?
[05:36] <dr_willis> unless you need like 30gb for windows.. ;)
[05:37] <Hyperiant> Confuzzled: A USB drive that's bootable from multiple computers, writable and readable from Windows, and doesn't break when I use Ubuntu Software Center to load programs
[05:38] <dr_willis> Hyperiant:  you dont wan tto be install ing a lot  via software center to a live-usb.. thats just a fact of life.. you can do some.. but  its Not going to be as flexiable as a full install
[05:38] <koumorileo> ok we found device id  14e4:4357
[05:38] <Confuzzled> Create a bootable ext3 partition of ~8GB for '/', and then partition the rest in FAT32
[05:38] <dr_willis> a live usb -  has limitations in what will work if you install it.
[05:38] <histo> Hyperiant: That would be a normal Ubuntu usb disk with perisistance.  It's already formatted in fat32
[05:39] <Hyperiant> dr_willis: What limitations, for example, might I run into?
[05:39] <dr_willis> Hyperiant:  installing newer kernels, drivers, may not work right
[05:39] <Hyperiant> Confuzzled: Would 8GB be enough for packages?  I don't want to have to reformat to expand the partition
[05:39] <[x_]> anyone use squidGuard?
[05:39] <dr_willis> and theres going to  be size imitaions when your persistanc file fills up
[05:39] <amoma> histo, just typing the string:https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501023
[05:40] <amoma> first of 180K
[05:40] <Confuzzled> yes, if you set /home to be on your FAT32, should be plenty, depending on what you're installing.
[05:40] <Hyperiant> wait, what
[05:40] <Confuzzled> I am also a minimalist, and uninstall as much garbage as possible
[05:40] <Confuzzled> like all of Unity
[05:40] <dr_willis> home on a fat32 will have its own limitions also
[05:40] <zykotick9> dr_willis: i'm not 100% sure "persistance" even allows for programs to be installed... i think it might only be file storage...  i could be wrong.
[05:41] <Confuzzled> yes, but it will maintain your maximum windoze compatibility
[05:41] <dr_willis> zykotick9:  it does.. but if you do it a lot - you can run into issues.
[05:41] <amoma> and with strin"ubuntu" http://osdir.com/ml/ubuntu-bugs/2009-09/msg10869.html
[05:41] <dr_willis> zykotick9:   ir ecall issues with kernels. and  the nvidia and fgrx drivers
[05:41] <Confuzzled> persistance tracks configuration changes, and some package installs... but it has to process with every start up and shutdown
[05:41] <Hyperiant> dr_willis: What limitations would it be for having /home/ on FAT32?  Would it install packages to the FAT32 partition and boot from the ext4 partition?
[05:41] <amoma> histo, http://osdir.com/ml/ubuntu-bugs/2009-09/msg10869.html
[05:42] <zykotick9> dr_willis: i find full install to usb makes a lot more sense then persistance
[05:42] <amoma> histo, aparently is not only me
[05:42] <Hyperiant> Confuzzled: That was one of my other main issues; my USB drive takes about twenty minutes to boot from my craptop
[05:42] <Confuzzled> I would run root on an ext3, rather than ext4 if compatibility is considered to be an issue
[05:42] <histo> amoma: assuming you are using a 2009 version of fedora then yes
[05:42] <dr_willis> Hyperiant:  no owndership, no modes,  and things  other things from Not using a real  linux supported filesystem. vvfat does not have all the features that ext2/3/4 does
[05:42] <histo> amoma: That is an antient bug
[05:43] <dr_willis> 20 min? what is it? a USB-1 ?
[05:43] <Hyperiant> dr_willis: I believe so, this is a pretty old laptop
[05:43] <Confuzzled> hyperiant, I would figure out exactly what you're looking to do with the drive, and then exstimate a conservative partition size for root, /usr, and /home
[05:43] <koumorileo> question ... will the driver for 14e4:4357 be different from 14e4:4358 for ndiswrapper ?
[05:43] <Hyperiant> dr_willis: I have a USB 2.0 card but I doubt WIndows auto-detects it
[05:43] <amoma> histo, ancient but surviving, like neanderthal
[05:43] <histo> amoma: On that bug  they added a gconf key it looks like.
[05:43] <Hyperiant> Rather, I doubt that my laptop can boot from it
[05:44] <histo> amoma: perhaps file a bug report with gnome then
[05:44] <histo> amoma: or use a different terminal for the time being
[05:44] <amoma> ok, i can live with dis
[05:44] <amoma> ut it just pesky annoing
[05:44] <Confuzzled> hyperiant, you can customize your paths to folders inside your home directory to point to locations on the FAT fs, and that way all of your configuration files should be retained ona  native linux fs
[05:45] <amoma> histo, of corse if i turn F{2..6} i can do it ,
[05:45] <Hyperiant> Confuzzled: For the Ubuntu portion, I intend to install assorted utilities, and optimistically a few games
[05:45] <amoma> but it is set back those days to advise not to use x
[05:45] <Confuzzled> ece it's primarily a single user system, I have dox, downs, pix, movs folders that are shared across my distros
[05:45] <histo> amoma: right becuase you aren't using gnome-terminal I'd assume soem other terminals won't act the same way
[05:46] <histo> amoma: There are plenty of other terminal choices in X
[05:46] <mahamaya> Mahamaya
[05:46] <amoma> histo, ok i dont thisn but trying , thanks now
[05:46] <BillyZane2> now that I have it on 2024x1152 with ghosting... i have to admit.. the resolution is too big. I can't see the writing on xchat
[05:47] <mahamaya> Mahamaya tripathi
[05:47] <Confuzzled> hyperiant, i'de set up your usb as a full install, and install your ntfs, and nfs tool packages, and you should be plenty fine with 8GB of space for /, especially if you re-path your documents and stuff to the FAT32 partition
[05:48] <dr_willis> BillyZane2:  dont make me slap you....   ;P
[05:48] <BillyZane2> lol
[05:48] <dr_willis> make the fonts larger...
[05:48] <dr_willis> the whole point of the monitor was to show 2 pages side by side. :)  you need a 60 in plasma tv?
[05:48] <Confuzzled> hyperiant - one thing I would be sure to do though is ditch the unity WM for something like gnome, kde, or xfce
[05:49] <Confuzzled> unity is a giant sack of unneccesary bloat
[05:49] <dr_willis> Hyperiant:  if the pc is that old.. what are its other specs?
[05:49] <dr_willis> !fud | Confuzzled
[05:49] <koumorileo> ok so after a search on ubuntuforums i found an answer to a 14e4:4358 but i cant find out if 14e4:4357 will run with the same driver ... any suggestions ?
[05:49] <Hyperiant> dr_willis: 1.6GHz Celeron, 898MB RAM, 80GB HDD
[05:49] <BillyZane2> Dr_willis: I'm very close to abandoning windows.. I can feel it. The very last step in the process is setting up an SSH account
[05:49] <dr_willis> Hyperiant:   you are using 12.04 or 12.10?
[05:50] <BillyZane2> now.. I have openssh-server installed
[05:50] <Hyperiant> dr_willis: 12.10
[05:50] <dr_willis> Hyperiant:  lubuntu may be better suited for a low end  machine..  12.10 requires a CPU  with PAE also..  so i guess if it works.. then the cpu has pae. ;)
[05:50] <BillyZane2> umm.. let me figure out how to config this
[05:50] <Speiros> Hello.  Can someone help me with why my mic might not work on ubuntu 10.04?
[05:51] <Hyperiant> dr_willis: PAE?
[05:51] <dr_willis> BillyZane2:  i just install then use.. ;) not much to configure for ssh
[05:51] <dr_willis> !pea
[05:51] <dr_willis> !pae
[05:51] <dr_willis> a lot of very old hardwre dosent have PAE - so is limited to 12.04
[05:51] <Hyperiant> ah
[05:51] <Confuzzled> hyperiant, on somehting that old, i'd use xfce as a wm over unity. yeah, it's pretty, but it will slow you down more than you need.
[05:51] <Hyperiant> well, Ubuntu dual-booted just fine with 12.10
[05:51] <dr_willis> so your system is not super old...
[05:52] <dr_willis> Lubuntu works well for older systems.
[05:52] <Confuzzled> I've run on an older P4 than that, but I also had 1GB RDRAM with it
[05:52] <Hyperiant> dr_willis: Can it do that really cool thing where you can tile windows to, for example, share a screen equally
[05:52] <BillyZane2> I have a question. Suppose I enter SSH and i want to initiate a GUI environment. I would need to install an extremely minimal GUI right? One that would work well over an internet connection. I was using a unix system earlier today and it had a really simple GUI that worked very well. Is there something like that for linux?
[05:53] <yatriga> which is the best video editoy
[05:53] <Hyperiant> dr_willis: Admittedly it's a bit of a stretch if it's a lightweight OS, to be able to tile windows and swap workspaces like in Unity
[05:53] <Confuzzled> i can't remember the name, but there is an rdesktop app designed to run over an ssh connection
[05:54] <Confuzzled> hyperiant, if you're committed to the ubuntu-distro, i would switch up your WM.
[05:55] <Confuzzled> if not, i'd look into other distro's of 'nix
[05:55] <dr_willis> !info freenx
[05:55] <dr_willis> hmm..
[05:55] <Hyperiant> I can let go of swapping workspaces, that much is a luxury
[05:55] <dr_willis> BillyZane2:  ssh and its x forwarding lets you forward a single app easially :) thats about all i ever need
[05:56] <Hyperiant> Being able to tile windows to share half a screen is extremely useful though
[05:56] <dr_willis> Hyperiant:  even the most basic window manager for linux ive seen.. has Workspaces.. ;) its been a feature for decades
[05:56] <Hyperiant> dr_willis: Oh, that's encouraging then
[05:56] <dr_willis> Hyperiant:  lubuntu works well.. it uses openbox. or you could just use openbox by itself
[05:57] <Confuzzled> hyperiant, for a machine with <1GB of RAM, I really wouldn't use any WM heavier than XFCE or LDXE, unless you're running a super-minimal distro, then maybe would I branch out into KDE
[05:57] <dr_willis> it gets to a point where its silly to try to use a uber-light desktop.. because 99% of your resources are being used by your  browser or other apps anyway. ;)
[05:57] <BillyZane2> dr_willis: Oooooo.. i seee.. so if you want a terminal, you would forward xterm, and if you want a GUI, you would forward the gui interface app or something
[05:57] <Confuzzled> XFCE is lightweight enough that you can still easily swap WorkSpaces
[05:57] <Hyperiant> What about compatibility between distros, then?  Are there programs that are incompatible with some distros over others?
[05:57] <dr_willis> a simple window manager..  and then run what apps ya need from a terminal
[05:58] <dr_willis> BillyZane2:  not much need to forward a xterm over ssh.. since ssh allready gives you a terminal. ;) but its doable
[05:58] <BillyZane2> dr_willis: good point
[05:58] <BillyZane2> dr_willis: would LXDE be a good candidate for an "app" to forward?
[05:58] <Confuzzled> it's more of a question of apps that require/designed for services provided by a particular desktop environment
[05:58] <amoma> histo, you are right
[05:58] <Confuzzled> QT apps versus gnome-apps
[05:58] <dr_willis> billyzane2  thats not an APP.. its a whole desktop
[05:58] <amoma> histo, you are right
[05:59] <BillyZane2> dr_willis: is it possible to forward a desktop?
[05:59] <Hyperiant> Confuzzled: For a more specific example, I hope to run Steam on whatever distro I pick, and all I know for sure is that it probably supports Ubuntu
[05:59] <Speiros> So does anyone know if I can change some settings to get the microphone to work, or do I need something else installed?
[05:59] <dr_willis> billyzane2  its possible but a  bit pointless
[05:59] <dr_willis>  and going to  be slow
[05:59] <BillyZane2> dr_willis: how come?
[05:59] <amoma> xterm and KDE konsole do not exhibit this buggy behavior
[05:59] <dr_willis> you are forwarding like 20+ seperate apps....
[05:59] <BillyZane2> KDE!!that's what i was using earlier
[05:59] <dr_willis> vs the one you really wan tto use
[06:00] <dr_willis> vnc and freenx are for shareing a whole desktop
[06:00] <BillyZane2> I was in a KDE environment earlier (SunOS), would this be possible with SSH on ubunutu?
[06:00] <histo> BillyZane2: you can forward X apps over ssh yes
[06:00] <Confuzzled> hyperiant, if you wanna steam, then I'd probably stick with an ubuntu-based distro, and go with a minimalistic WM, like LDFE or XFCE or hell, even something like fluxbox
[06:00] <dr_willis> you can install kde on ubuntu..
[06:00] <amoma> othervise gnome is infected with "anciend bug"
[06:00] <Confuzzled> billyzane2: Kubuntu
[06:00] <spyzer> hey everyone, i am unable to find a channel where i can ask gtk devel related question :(
[06:00] <spyzer> please help
[06:01] <BillyZane2> but this was a very very downgraded version of KDE, it looked like wolfenstein3D
[06:01] <dr_willis> !alias | spyzer
[06:01] <dr_willis> !alis | spyzer
[06:01] <BillyZane2> histo: i was using a very downgraded KDE over SSH earlier, i was wondering if i could have the same experience with SSH on ubuntu
[06:01] <Hyperiant> Confuzzled: Looking at Fluxbox, it seems really...fluid in terms of visuals.  How would it look when I installed it?
[06:01] <BillyZane2> this was unix proper though
[06:02] <Confuzzled> Hyperiant: it would look like Win 3.0
[06:02] <dr_willis> simple window managers look simple... ;))
[06:02] <tekkbuzz> Use the command xhost to allow all connections from your host:
[06:02] <tekkbuzz> xhost +host (with "host" being the name or ip)
[06:02] <Confuzzled> right-click on an open area of the desktop to bring up a 'start' menu to pick whatever programs you're trying to run
[06:03] <BillyZane2> brb, i'm gona get in to xfce
[06:03] <machicola> how do i filter OUT output with grep? i'm using fping i.e. 'sudo fping -g <IP_ADDRESS>/24 | grep available' and it lists the results with the string 'available' then spams the screen with massive other unwanted output
[06:03] <Confuzzled> it's very VERY basic, but highly configurable if you're willing to put int the time to learn to do so
[06:03] <Hyperiant> dr_willis, Confuzzled: So it's lubuntu as a distro?  If that's the case, is there any WM either of you two would recommend?  (and how would I go about installing them/uninstalling the old one anyway)
[06:03] <DarwinSurvivor> machicola: grep -v
[06:04] <Confuzzled> whereas, XFCE is more like a desktop-environment that most people are used to
[06:04] <dr_willis> !lubuntu | Hyperiant
[06:04] <Confuzzled> XFCE even supports some basic 'widget-liike' apps
[06:04] <dr_willis> Hyperiant:  i would say time to quit dawdling.. and go inssttall lubuntu live to your flash and try it
[06:05] <histo> machicola: you couold use cut
[06:05] <DarwinSurvivor> machicola: unless you are talking about content printed to stderr, in which case you want to do "sudo fping -g <IP_ADDRESS>/24 2>/dev/null | grep available"
[06:05] <Confuzzled> Hyperiant: Xubuntu is the same, with XFCE. research lighter-eight WM, and figure out which one strikes your fancy
[06:05] <machicola> not stderr i don't believe
[06:05] <histo> machicola: can you pastebin your output
[06:06] <Confuzzled> although, with a 32 GB thumbdrive, you could probably install one or the other, and run a version of ubuntu that has both WM's, which you can choose from at your login screen
[06:06] <machicola> ok
[06:06] <BillyZane2> hi i'm back
[06:06] <dubey> Hello
[06:06] <BillyZane2> hi
[06:06] <Confuzzled> I run UStudio, and I have at least 3 WM's installed, and I use thme all for slightly different purposes
[06:06] <zorg24> I have a Lenovo W530 and just installed ubuntu can anyone help me get the correct drivers for the graphics card, its a Nvidia Quadro K1000M
[06:07] <dubey> Is it possible to take screenshot of ubuntu system when it boots up and shows the grub list ?
[06:07] <BillyZane2> well.. lets just say i have openssh-server installed... I suppose I could test out logging on.. would the command be... ssh local ?
[06:07] <DarwinSurvivor> machicola: can you give us an example of what you are getting and an example of what you would like to get (pastebin works best)?
[06:07] <amoma> histo, thanx , i using now KDE konsole, after some color change 3 click it work perfect with mc. If you spot somehow info how to fix it in gnome term i will greatly appreciate this tip.
[06:07] <Confuzzled> IMHO, Konsole > gnoem-terminal
[06:07] <histo> amoma: idk if you poke around in gconf you may be able to find some setting
[06:08] <bradd> BillyZane2: ssh localhost or maybe ssh <IP_ADDRESS> . Both should connect to the current host
[06:08] <BillyZane2> it says connection refused (for localhost)
[06:08] <dr_willis> on the machine you installed ssh on..  you shhould be able to 'ssh localhost;
[06:08] <BillyZane2> let me check...
[06:09] <BillyZane2> it says... "ssh: connect to local host port 22: connection refused
[06:09] <dr_willis> sounds like you dont have the ssh server insgtalled
[06:09] <histo> BillyZane2: take a look at you /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[06:09] <[x_]> anyone use squidGuard?
[06:09] <dr_willis> i forget the package name...
[06:09] <dr_willis> openssh-server or somthing like that
[06:09] <BillyZane2> LOL, i did not have it installed
[06:09] <BillyZane2> it was installed on my virtualbox
[06:09] <machicola> DarwinSurvivor, yeah... sorry, just havin some issues
[06:10] <amoma> BillyZane, if you have installed service sshd start
[06:10] <BillyZane2> histo: sorry, it wasn't installed
[06:10] <machicola> its spamming the heck out of my output
[06:10] <BillyZane2> i'm gona try connecting...
[06:10] <zorg24> I have a Lenovo W530 and just installed ubuntu can anyone help me get the correct drivers for the graphics card, its a Nvidia Quadro K1000M
[06:11] <BillyZane2> says, the authenticity of host 'local host (<IP_ADDRESS>)' can't be established.. ECDSA key finger print is oijdfoijdf..
[06:11] <histo> !nvidia > zorg24
[06:11] <histo> BillyZane2: yes to accept the fingerprint
[06:11] <zorg24> thanks ubottu
[06:12] <BillyZane2> ok, i added yes yes, it says... permantly added 'localhost' ECDSA to the list of known hosts
[06:12] <temp_> A bit of help someone?
[06:12] <DarwinSurvivor> machicola: pastebinit will automatically pastebin the output of any given command (make sure you put single quotes around it to escape the pipe)
[06:12] <histo> !ask > temp_
[06:12] <BillyZane2> histo: i try to run codeblocks, it says unable to initialize gtk, is DISPLAY set properly?
[06:13] <histo> BillyZane2: ssh -X localhost
[06:13] <dubey> anyone has done this ?
[06:13] <DarwinSurvivor> zorg24: http://www.thinkwiki.org/ has LOTS of information about using Linux on thinkpads (helped me with my x220 multiple times)
[06:13] <Hyperiant> Confuzzled: Well, it looks like I'm probably gonna use lubuntu then.  How should I partition?
[06:13] <BillyZane2> histo: i tried that, i'm in... i tried codeblocks again, it says the same msg, unable to initialize gtk
[06:13] <dr_willis> Hyperiant:  you doing a live or full install?
[06:13] <zorg24> DarwinSurvivor: I tried that but couldn
[06:14] <zorg24> 't seem to find the right thing
[06:14] <Hyperiant> dr_willis: Full this time, hahaha
[06:14] <histo> BillyZane2: try -Y just for giggles
[06:14] <BillyZane2> lol, ok
[06:14] <DarwinSurvivor> zorg24: it's got more information on some machines that others, so it really depends on which model you have
[06:14] <temp_> H,,
[06:14] <BillyZane2> histo: same msg
[06:14] <dr_willis> Hyperiant:  id jsust setup the whole flash as  your lubuntu  install then. a /  and a swap partition.
[06:14] <histo> BillyZane2: also try another app like xclock or something
[06:14] <temp_> Could really use some help.
[06:14] <BillyZane2> hmm.. not ssh?
[06:15] <BillyZane2> i think openssh is a good app no?
[06:15] <BillyZane2> it's super secure
[06:15] <zorg24> DarwinSurvivor, oh well the W530 is brand new so I wouldn't be surprised if they don't have a ton yet
[06:15] <[x_]> BillyZane, yes
[06:15] <[x_]> BillyZane2, yes
[06:15] <dr_willis> temp_:  state the problem to the channel yet? Ive not seen it...
[06:15] <BillyZane2> BillyZane, : should i try running xclock on the ssh server?
[06:15] <histo> BillyZane2: No try opening another X application
[06:15] <BillyZane2> ok
[06:15]  * [x_] lulz
[06:15] <histo> BillyZane2: like xclock
[06:15] <temp_> I'm new to this, sorry.
[06:16] <temp_> I'm trying to install ubuntu SE.
[06:16] <BillyZane2> histo: error, can't open display
[06:16] <histo> BillyZane2: what are you sshing from
[06:16] <[x_]> dont ssh me
[06:16] <BillyZane2> histo: i'm SSHing from konsole
[06:16] <temp_> But I'm having difficulties. i actually installed ubuntu for that in specific.
[06:16] <histo> BillyZane2: to the same box?
[06:16] <Hyperiant> dr_willis: Just throwing this out there; can Android read ext4-formatted USB drives?  My phone supports USB hosting and it -is- based off of Linux
[06:16] <BillyZane2> histo, yeah i'm basically connecting to myself. i type ssh -X localhost
[06:17] <histo> BillyZane2: check your sshd_config and make sure X11 forwarding is enabled
[06:17] <BillyZane2> hmm.. ok
[06:17] <dr_willis> Hyperiant:  havent really noticed.. ive seen  some android tablets/phones  have packages that let you use ext* for your sd card.. so it may depend on the specific android device
[06:17] <BillyZane2> should i do that by typing ... cat /ssh/sshd_config ?
[06:17] <DarwinSurvivor> temp_: if you are having trouble installing ubuntu se (I'm assuming you mean Satanic Edition), you will need to contact the Ubuntu SE support channels as we have no way of knowing what changes they have made to ubuntu when they created their derivative
[06:17] <histo> BillyZane2: cat /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[06:18] <BillyZane2> histo: i almost had it :D
[06:18] <histo> BillyZane2: or less /etc/ssh/sshd_config  would be easier
[06:18]  * dr_willis wondered what Ubuntu SE was...
[06:18] <temp_> Alright, thank you!
[06:18] <temp_> how do I do that, exactly?
[06:18] <dr_willis> UbuntuSatanic edition.. is not worth using...  i suggest sticking to the real ubuntu
[06:19] <temp_> What's the difference?
[06:19] <dr_willis> so many pointless variants
[06:19] <DarwinSurvivor> temp_: their forums are at http://ubuntusatanic.org/forum/ I'm not sure if they have an IRC channel or not
[06:19] <dr_willis> temp_ if you dont know the differances.. then why choose it?
[06:19] <BillyZane2> histo: there's a big problem.. i opened the file, there was some stuff so i typed yes... now there's just a bunch of Y's being repeated again and again
[06:19] <histo> wth
[06:19] <temp_> For the looks of it. haha
[06:19] <Hyperiant> dr_willis: If I have files on my flash drive, how would you recommend getting them off?
[06:19] <dr_willis> pointless reason to choose a disrto.. because of the them
[06:19] <histo> BillyZane2: ctrl+c
[06:19] <dr_willis> Hyperiant:  copy them to your ubuntu one account. ;)
[06:20] <temp_> Alright, well, thank you guys. have a good evening.
[06:20] <Hyperiant> dr_willis: hrm, not a bad idea
[06:20] <histo> BillyZane2: less /etc/ssh/sshd_config   or gedit /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[06:20] <BillyZane2> histo, i closed it and started again
[06:20] <Hyperiant> dr_willis: There's no way to do it without booting up in Ubuntu though, huh :/
[06:20] <dr_willis> Hyperiant:  thers ubuntu one for android now also
[06:20] <histo> dr_willis: satanic edition really?
[06:20] <dr_willis> histo:  when children have to much spare time on their hands....
[06:20] <dr_willis> ;)
[06:21] <BillyZane2> histo: i opened the file in gedit
[06:21] <dr_willis> histo:  ranks up there with 'Hanna Montana' linux...
[06:21] <BillyZane2> histo: i found X11Forwarding yes, evidently it's enabled
[06:21] <histo> dr_willis: satanists need their own distro i guess
[06:22] <histo> If that's what their even called
[06:22]  * dr_willis makes MyLittlePonyBuntu
[06:22] <[x_]> which is better dansguardian or squidGuard?
[06:22]  * histo makes kidsareretardedubuntu
[06:22] <BillyZane2> lol
[06:22] <DarwinSurvivor> dr_willis: you have no idea how popular that would be. put ranbow dash on the front and 3/4 of reddit and 4chan would be running Linux!
[06:22] <histo> lol
[06:23] <dr_willis> then CatBuntu for the other 1/4
[06:23] <histo> yeah with an animated gif desktop
[06:23] <histo> they'd be in heaven
[06:23] <dr_willis> FarmvillBuntu
[06:24]  * dr_willis stops now.
[06:24] <histo> BillyZane2: Yet you can't forward X apps
[06:24] <dr_willis> BBl.. i have to go water my crops.......
[06:24] <histo> lol
[06:24] <BillyZane2> lol
[06:25] <BillyZane2> histo, i'm not sure what it means, perhaps i can't run any app?
[06:25] <Hyperiant> Confuzzled: Lubuntu unpartitioned sound good?  Or do you have anything to say about it?
[06:25] <BillyZane2> should I pastebin the sshd_config ?
[06:26] <Hyperiant> I'd really honestly like to be able to -use- the flash drive for moving files from computer to computer
[06:26] <histo> BillyZane2: ssh -X localhost xclock
[06:26] <histo> BillyZane2: should open xclock
[06:26] <Hyperiant> Now that I think about it, I don't need more than about 1GB for file storage, so should I partition it for that much?