[00:00] <Silouck> NickPresta: and apt-cache its only for installed packages, man, learn
[00:00] <Silouck> wnat a troll
[00:00] <stdin> Silouck: no it's not
[00:01] <NickPresta> Silouck, you came to this channel asking for help. I am trying to help you and you're not listening or being co-operative. If you want my help, fine, but try to be more polite as you're the one who obviously needs help.
[00:03] <Silouck> ]# LC_ALL=C apt-cache showpkg libk3b2-extracodecs_1.0.4-2ubuntu1~gutsy1_i386.deb
[00:03] <Silouck> W: Unable to locate package libk3b2-extracodecs_1.0.4-2ubuntu1~gutsy1_i386.deb
[00:03] <Silouck> like i said, the package inst installed
[00:03] <stdin> Silouck: libk3b2-extracodecs is the package "libk3b2-extracodecs_1.0.4-2ubuntu1~gutsy1_i386.deb" is the FILE
[00:03] <NickPresta> If you have it in a deb archive format, you can use `dpkg --info PACKAGE.deb`. You never said the package was in a deb file. :)
[00:04] <pfein> w00t, IRC 4 teh w1n!
[00:04] <NickPresta> and yes, that package is available in the repos. apt-cache depends works
[00:05] <NickPresta> pfein, sorry about the delay. Yes, you can mix and match resolutions and physical monitor sizees. I use KDE with Compiz-Fusion.
[00:05] <pfein> NickPresta: np... thx
[00:06] <pfein> NickPresta: any preference b/w ATI vs. Intel video chipset for dual head?  Looking @ dells...
[00:07] <biovore> intel works.. ati sometimes work.
[00:07] <NickPresta> pfein, I like to stay away from ATI. I would imagine nvidia > intel > ati, although I'm not really sure on the subject as I've only ever had nvidia :)
[00:08] <biovore> dell does do nvidia..  Its worth it in my option..
[00:09] <biovore> if your going to be running linux on the thing..
[00:09] <NickPresta> indeed. I've never had a problem with nvidia GPUs
[00:09] <biovore> well nvidia's been doing linux for around 8 years now..
[00:09] <biovore> They got it down..
[00:10] <pfein> hmm, ok... and basically you get a dvi2vga dongle & run both lcd's off vga?
[00:10] <NickPresta> pfein, I run both via DVI :)
[00:10] <biovore> mine nvidia card on my dell laptop here has DVI out..
[00:10] <NickPresta> pfein, but your method would work too, I believe
[00:11] <biovore> yeah.. DVI works better.. vga (analog) can't drive 2 lcd's
[00:11] <pfein> y'all have 2 DVI outs?
[00:11] <pfein> or 2 cards?
[00:11] <biovore> one dvi
[00:11] <NickPresta> pfein, my 7900 GS has two DVI outputs.
[00:11]  * pfein is confused
[00:12] <biovore> laptop nvidia card will only support 1 monitor external monitor
[00:12] <pfein> biovore: you can run 2 LCDs off one DVI out?
[00:12] <pfein> OIC
[00:12] <pfein> sry
[00:12] <NickPresta> pfein, I don't have a laptop. I am running a Desktop. Laptops traditionally only have one out, as biovore said
[00:12] <pfein> yeah, I'm caught up now. ;-)
[00:13] <bedpan> I heard something about ubuntu that shocked the hell out of me
[00:13] <bedpan> does this apply to Kubuntu also?
[00:13] <biovore> probably..
[00:13] <NickPresta> bedpan, tell us what you heard and we will tell you :)
[00:13]  * pfein still needs to figure out wth to get tho..
[00:13] <bedpan> ok  this is what I ran across in google
[00:13] <bedpan> MARK SHUTTLEWORTH AND CANONICAL ANNOUNCE LINUX FOR NIGGERS
[00:13] <bedpan> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
[00:13] <bedpan> ISLE OF MAN - June 1, 2006 - At a press conference today, Canonical CEO and Free Software spokesnigger Mark Shuttleworth announced the immediate availability of version 6.06 of the Ubuntu Linux distribution. The latest version, known by its code name, "The Diaper Drake," includes special features designed to make Linux easier and more comfortable for niggers the world over.
[00:13] <bedpan> "Niggers have always had trouble understanding new technology," Shuttleworth began. "Computers are no exception. Some people have said this is because niggers are dumb, but I believe the real problem is that technology has traditionally been designed for white people. Ubuntu changes all that. It was developed from the ground up with niggers in mind. It will usher in a whole new era of Afro-ergonomic computing."
[00:13] <bedpan> Shuttleworth presented an overview of some of the features users could expect in the latest version of Ubuntu, including an Ebonics-to-English converter, African "tribal beats" sound and desktop theme, and a collection of rap music and gay pornography, "which of course will be encoded using patent and royalty-free formats," Shuttleworth added, smiling. He proceeded to elaborate, but OpenOffice.org Impress crashed at that poin
[00:14] <Alamue> What is a good P2P client for Kubuntu?
[00:14] <NickPresta> sigh
[00:14] <NickPresta> !frostwire | Alamue
[00:14] <ubotu> Alamue: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[00:14] <crimsun> c'mon, you have to chuckle at how desperate some people have gotten.
[00:14] <Alamue> Thank you. Is it in the repositories?
[00:14] <biovore> yeah.. I agree crimsun
[00:15] <NickPresta> Alamue, nope. http://www.frostwire.com/?id=downloads
[00:15] <Alamue> Ok, thank you very much.
[00:15] <NickPresta> no problem
[00:16] <Darktan_> having trouble with an external USB hard drive kit
[00:17] <Darktan_> it see it as a 59gb USB jumpdrive and says "hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000"
[00:19] <inversekinetix> wow, racism in here?
[00:19] <crimsun> inversekinetix: trolling, rather.
[00:20] <inversekinetix> are there no ops?
[00:20]  * Darktan_ is confused
[00:20] <Darktan_> did i miss something?
[00:20] <crimsun> there are; the above instance was already addressed.
[00:20] <LjL> inversekinetix: you noticed he was banned 11 seconds after he started, didn't you?
[00:20] <NickPresta> Darktan_, what I would suggest, is that you manually unmount the HD, and then try to remount it with default options. See if that makes a difference
[00:20] <NickPresta> Darktan_, do you need help to do that?
[00:21] <Darktan_> one thing, it's not a normal ext HDD it uses internal IDE drives to make an ext drive
[00:21] <Darktan_> nah, i can do that
[00:21] <Darktan_> i think...
[00:21] <NickPresta> Darktan_, okay. I don't know if it will help, but it is probably a good place to start
[00:21] <inversekinetix> i didnt no
[00:21] <Darktan_> gonna try it
[00:22] <inversekinetix> being as i get no help in ubuntu otherr than to consider using windows, maybe someone here could help,
[00:22] <inversekinetix> 1.  why would ubuntu suddenly stop showing an NTFS drive
[00:23] <Darktan_> lost mounting
[00:24] <Darktan_> had all kinds of problem with that when i first started with linuk
[00:24] <NickPresta> inversekinetix, what do you mean "suddenly"? It stop showing the mounted drive after you used it? It stop showing the drive after a restart?
[00:24] <inversekinetix> NickPresta: yes
[00:24] <NickPresta> inversekinetix, which one?
[00:24] <inversekinetix> there are 4 drives
[00:25] <Darktan_> woot, thx nickpresta, got it working
[00:25] <NickPresta> Darktan_, did remounting with default options work?
[00:25] <inversekinetix> my mistake, if fails to show one of the NTFS partition on one of the drives, it detects the rest fine, but the one with windows on doesnt show
[00:26] <Darktan_> iat first it would let me do anything, i gave it a new mount point then it wouldn't enable, i cursed at it, went to system media and it works now
[00:26] <NickPresta> inversekinetix, hmm. I don't know what would cause that. What does your fstab look like? (you can !pastebin it)
[00:26] <NickPresta> Darktan_, congrats.
[00:26] <Darktan_> thx
[00:26] <inversekinetix> whats the command for it
[00:27] <Darktan_> i had the same problem, had to allow all users to mount and enable mount on start up from the "file and disk" setting under system settings
[00:27] <NickPresta> inversekinetix, `EDITOR /etc/fstab` where EDITOR is pico, nano, kate, what ever the editor is default in Ubuntu
[00:29] <inversekinetix> NickPresta: thanks, i think Im just going to have to use windows for the time being, I dont have time to try and get this working right, there are too many things wrong.  sorry to waste you time and thanks.
[00:29] <NickPresta> inversekinetix, it's okay. good luck.
[00:30] <Darktan_> why does dolphin want to chage permissions every time i copy a music file?
[00:30] <silouck> i have runned adpet to install libk3b2-extracodecs but this package doesnt appear
[00:30] <Darktan_> and why does it tell be a hundred freaking times it failed on every file?
[00:31] <NickPresta> Darktan_, would that be the window that pops up about a permission error in a bookmarks.xml file?
[00:31] <NickPresta> silouck, what did you do to install that package?
[00:32] <silouck> did i said i run adept_
[00:32] <Darktan_> no, every mp3, wav, wma, m4a, mp4, and ogg file
[00:32] <silouck> seams i need to add another repo
[00:33] <Darktan_> well, i'll worry about it later, right now dinner calls, thanks again for the help
[00:33] <Odd-rationale> How do I enable "roaming" in the knetworkmanager?
[00:33] <silouck> i did activated the repo for restricted software but it continues to not appear libk3b2-extracodecs!
[00:34] <silouck> in what repo the libk3b2-extracodecs exists_
[00:34] <Dagon> I have an external hard drive mounted  in a USB case. It mounts ok, but when I try to access the drive I get an error message hal refused  uid storage. How do I read the the drive
[00:34] <ForzaPalermo> hey guys i downloaded kde 4.0, but now i want to use it as my primary gui, how can i uninstall kde 3.5 completely, and have kde start up as my primary session?
[00:34] <NickPresta> silouck, http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy-backports/libs/libk3b2-extracodecs go down to the bottom and download the DEB file for your architecture. Then, in a terminal, type: sudo dpkg -i FILE
[00:35] <NickPresta> silouck, if that doesn't work, !pastebin the output.
[00:35] <Odd-rationale> ForzaPalermo: Can you select kde 4.0 as your default session?
[00:35] <ForzaPalermo> Odd-rationale, no, the only way i can select it is from the sign on screen
[00:35] <vzduch> NickPresta: if it's in the backports, why not add the repo and apt-get install?
[00:35] <NickPresta> ForzaPalermo, ask in #kubuntu-kde4. They should be able to tell you how to get a fully KDE 4.0 system
[00:36] <NickPresta> vzduch, you can, if you want (I do) but for a single package, it is suggested you download the deb. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports#head-7da053a820e7f163090900a26ed8cbf839c2b185
[00:36] <ForzaPalermo> im asking everywhere
[00:36] <ForzaPalermo> no one has given me an answer yet :(
[00:37] <NickPresta> ForzaPalermo, well, be patient. I'm sure you will get an answer soon.
[00:39] <Datalanche> Is there an Applet I can get somewhere to have a custom list of programs in a spanning tree fashion? The Quick Launcher is taking up a bit too much room.
[00:39] <Odd-rationale> Is there a way to show a list of available wireless network connections in knetworkmanager applet?
[00:41] <jac0b> when you build amarok from source for mp4 tag purposes do what do I have to put on the ./configure line
[00:41] <NickPresta> Datalanche, have you ever heard of Katapult?
[00:41] <NickPresta> jac0b, try a ./configure --help and see what it mentions about mp4
[00:41] <NickPresta> jac0b, or ask in #amarok
[00:41] <jac0b> ok thnaks
[00:41] <jac0b> or that is even better
[00:42] <Datalanche> NickPresta: umm.. the name rings a bell but I don't think I've used it
[00:43] <NickPresta> Datalanche, check it out. It takes up no (physical) space. http://katapult.kde.org/ It is different, but you might like it.
[00:43] <Datalanche> I'll check it out. Thanks :)
[00:45] <Odd-rationale> How can I scan for a list of available wireless networks? Thanks!
[00:46] <matt___> i installed "kdebase" within ubuntu, and now i'm using it. however, i could be wrong, but it seems as if external drives aren't being deteted/mounted. not 100% sure, but just wondering if there is something/way to install/check
[00:46] <Datalanche> Cool... Katapult is just what I needed! :)
[00:47] <matt___> Datalanche: katapult is the coolest thing ever, check out yakuake as well
[00:47] <NickPresta> Odd-rationale, I don't know much about wireless and Kubuntu anymore. Check out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo#head-5f526a24e75c1923c77ce8f801da484716ea1b4e and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[00:48] <ForzaPalermo> what package do i download in the kubuntu repositories to get everything i would need for kde 4
[00:48] <corinth> matt___: What is katapult?
[00:48] <silouck> NickPresta: i have installed that packaged and it continues not being possible to add some mp3 files to audio cds, see the error>
[00:48] <silouck> Unable to handle the following files due to an unsupported format:
[00:48] <silouck> You may manually convert these audio files to wave using another application supporting the audio format and then add the wave files to the K3b project.
[00:48] <Datalanche> !info katapult
[00:48] <ubotu> katapult: item launcher for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-2 (gutsy), package size 419 kB, installed size 3152 kB
[00:48] <NickPresta> ForzaPalermo, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php and ask in #kubuntu-kde4
[00:48] <matt___> corinth: it is a program starter, install it, run it, then hit alt+spacebar to find out. it's amazing
[00:48] <matt___> corinth: it is much like quicksilver for macs
[00:49] <silouck> so its all a lie about what i heard about kubutun fixing this prob that also exists in other distros
[00:49] <Odd-rationale> NickPresta: I'll look into that. thanks!
[00:50] <Datalanche> Awesome... plenty of space in my panel now :)
[00:51] <NickPresta> silouck, try this: apt-get install libmad0
[00:51] <NickPresta> silouck, sudo apt-get install libmad0
[00:51] <silouck> NickPresta: if course that libmad is installed, cause its a required library
[00:51] <silouck> of course
[00:52] <silouck> You may manually convert these audio files to wave using another application supporting the audio format and then add the wave files to the K3b project.
[00:52] <silouck> /mnt/ext3/Downloads/Musica/06 Metallica -- S & M/CD-1/06 METALLICA-fuel.MP3
[00:53] <NickPresta> silouck, I realize that the extracodecs package you're trying to install replaces libk3b2-mp3 but according to the Google'ing I've done, you should have libk3b2-mp3 installed and then when you start up K3b, click on "New Audio CD Project" drag your files, and click on Burn and it should work.
[00:54] <silouck> all those are installed
[00:54] <silouck> i really thought that would be very strnage for kubuntu fix this when mandriva that is a super distro wouldnt
[00:57] <biovore> silouck: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:57] <NickPresta> silouck, so let me understand you. You selected, "New Audio CD Project", and dragged your MP3 files to the project area. You then clicked on "burn" and it didn't work?
[01:03] <silouck> NickPresta: when draggin this mp3 files outputs that message, but only for these mp3, it all goes fine with other mp3 files
[01:04] <silouck> but all this hapens also in super distro mandriva
[01:04] <silouck> well my doubts were clarified
[01:04] <NickPresta> silouck, so it only happens with those specific MP3s?
[01:04] <LowlyNewbie> Hello, can someone help me setup my wifi?  I just installed Kubuntu for my first time
[01:04] <NickPresta> !wifi | LowlyNewbie
[01:04] <ubotu> LowlyNewbie: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:07] <trophyhead> in kubuntu's kmix the sound is set to default & 44100hz, but I believe my sound cards 32 bit, & kmix option is either (16bit) very high or (8bitlow) & default, what would any suggest I set it to, so I get the best sound quailty?
[01:07] <Kouen> hi everyone
[01:07] <NickPresta> LowlyNewbie, congrats. on installing Kubuntu for your first time. I hope you enjoy your Kubuntu experience. Your first step is finding out if your card is supported. If it is supported, you need to figure out if you need to use ndiswrapper or if it is supported natively. From there, there are specific instructions to setup your card.
[01:07] <NickPresta> hi Kouen
[01:08] <Kouen> hey i never been on ubuntu channel but when i tried to enter the channel it' says unable to enter address is banned....
[01:08] <NickPresta> Kouen, when you try to /join #ubuntu?
[01:09] <Kouen> yes
[01:09] <NickPresta> !banned | Kouen
[01:09] <ubotu> Kouen: If you have been banned it is probably because you have not gone along with what is acceptable behaviour. If you're not sure what acceptable behaviour is please see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[01:09] <LjL> Kouen: ask in #ubuntu-ops
[01:09] <Kouen> i never been at ubuntu channel in my life....
[01:09] <NickPresta> Kouen, join #ubuntu-ops and explain your situation to them
[01:09] <Kouen> just now that i want to enter...
[01:09] <NickPresta> LjL beat me to it :)
[01:10] <Kouen> thanks
[01:11] <trophyhead> any idea's plz with my kmix question?
[01:11] <biovore> what sound card?
[01:11] <NickPresta> trophyhead, I can only imagine that putting all your settings to the highest value would deliver the best quality.
[01:12] <trophyhead> k but would default be higher than the 16 bit (veryhigh) setting?
[01:13] <biovore> trophyhead: creative sounds card?
[01:13] <LowlyNewbie> YAY IT WORKED Thank you documentation
[01:13] <trophyhead> naw a chepie c-media
[01:13] <biovore> that card probably only has 16bit DAC on it..
[01:13] <NickPresta> LowlyNewbie, congrats. *buntu has a lot of helpful documentation. I'm sure it won't be the last time it helps you.
[01:14] <andrew__> anyone on this channel know anything about ubuntu?
[01:14] <trophyhead> tho it is supposed 32bit , ill have to make sure, probably only 16
[01:14] <Odd-rationale> OK. I'm connected to the internet, but konqueror won't connect to any website. Any ideas?
[01:15] <LowlyNewbie> now if someone could tell me why OR point me where I can find out why my computer does not startup normally (I have to go to recovery mode then do startx) then Kubuntu starts up
[01:15] <NickPresta> andrew__, join #ubuntu
[01:15] <trophyhead> thx anyhoo bio\
[01:15] <biovore> trophyhead: probably the same thing as audigy pulls.. they say 24bit.. but its only has a 16bit dac on the card..
[01:15] <andrew__> thanks
[01:15] <NickPresta> LowlyNewbie, that is strange indeed. Do you get any output or error messages when starting Kubuntu normally?
[01:15] <trophyhead> oh  ok its a cheap 15$ card so ya probably 16 bit
[01:16] <tinin> Hey, how do I acces to krunner in kde4?
[01:16] <LowlyNewbie> No I don't NickPresta.  The screen just goes blank?
[01:16] <NickPresta> !kde4 | tinin
[01:16] <ubotu> tinin: KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[01:16] <tinin> thanx
[01:17] <NickPresta> LowlyNewbie, I don't know what is different about the recovery mode versus the "normal" mode so I'm not sure where to start in identifying the problem. If you ask again a little later, someone may be available who can help.
[01:18] <LowlyNewbie> Thanks NickPresta I appreciate it
[01:23] <NexaMac> stupid shift-backspace :<
[01:34] <spiniker> anybody knows how to enable skydome?
[01:34] <jckffyi> how do you delete a directory from a terminal, i keep getting cannot rm ... it is a directory
[01:35] <kadam> jckffyi: rmdir
[01:35] <NickPresta> jckffyi, rm -r. in the future, do `man rm` for information
[01:35] <NickPresta> or rmdir too
[01:35] <NickPresta> rmdir will remove empty directories
[01:35] <jckffyi> Thanks!
[01:38] <NexaMac> hmm
[01:38] <NexaMac> terminal cheat sheet in teh topic would be <3
[01:38] <pkh> hi, I have a simple question -- how do I reset the dialog that pops up asking what to do with a usb device (ipod in this case) -- I pressed 'ignore' and then 'remember' and now I want to reset this to at least ask...
[01:39] <trophyhead> ok I'm getting 2 things for my sound card so how many bits is it plz?  first it says supporting 24bit SPDIF in/out, then below it says 32bit pci bus master, so what is it? 24 bit, 32 bit? it is suppose to be able to put out 4 or 6 channel's, : )
[01:40] <NickPresta> NexaMac, http://linuxcommand.org/
[01:40] <NexaMac> NickPresta: i didnt need one, but theres a lot of questions :)
[01:41] <crimsun> trophyhead: the 32-bit portion is completely irrelevant
[01:41] <crimsun> trophyhead: it's a 32-bit bus that connects your audio card
[01:42] <crimsun> trophyhead: the 24-bit SPDIF is per-specification and is completely independent of that bus
[01:42] <NickPresta> pkh, go into System Settings > Notifications > Storage Media Notifications > the Medium Type, click on Do Nothing and then press Toggle as Auto action to remove it. That might work.
[01:42] <crimsun> trophyhead: also, whether your audio device has SPDIF or not has absolutely no bearing on the number of channels it can output
[01:43] <trophyhead> oh ok the pin connection eh, (32bit) just trying to get the most outta it hehe
[01:45] <NexaMac> :<
[01:45] <NexaMac> storage media in dolphin, gets stuck on loading :/
[01:45] <pierreth> hello, I just an install of Kubuntu but I have no sound...
[01:46] <NexaMac> pierreth: what kind of soundcard?
[01:46] <pierreth> NexaMac: I don't know...
[01:46] <NexaMac> pierreth: open a terminal and type lspci
[01:46] <pkh> NickPresta, perfect, thanks.
[01:47] <trophyhead> so I guess most cheapie soundcards like mine are 16bit?, but what do look for to find out?, im on a web page for it now : )
[01:47] <pierreth> NexaMac: Audio device: nVidia Corporation Unknown device
[01:47] <NexaMac> pierreth: laptop?
[01:47] <pierreth> No, a Tower
[01:47] <NexaMac> custom built?
[01:47] <pierreth> NexaMac: yes
[01:48] <crimsun> pierreth: please pastebin `lspci -nv`
[01:48] <NexaMac> :<
[01:48] <pierreth> crimsun: where?
[01:48] <crimsun> pierreth: using any pastebin.
[01:48] <NexaMac> type lspci -nv in a terminal
[01:48] <NexaMac> then paste it at www.pastebin.com
[01:48] <pierreth> ok
[01:49] <NexaMac> stupid grub :<
[01:49] <pierreth> http://pastebin.com/d1fb40ed
[01:49] <NexaMac> error 17 ftl
[01:50] <pierreth> I have a EVGA e-7100/630i mother board with integrated audio and graphics
[01:51] <NexaMac> a tad more helpfull tbh
[01:51] <mefisto__> could someone try opening a web image in gimp (from File > Open Location...) It doesn't seem to work any more
[01:51] <crimsun> pierreth: that's not `lspci -nv`
[01:51] <arrrghhh> so kde4 is very pretty... but it seems they took a lot of the configuration options out
[01:51] <pierreth> oups....
[01:51] <arrrghhh> like when i right click on stuff on the bar at the bottom, they took like all the options out
[01:51] <pierreth> sorry, try again...
[01:52] <mefisto__> arrrghhh: I think it's just not finished yet
[01:52] <arrrghhh> is this something that's going to be permanent?
[01:52] <arrrghhh> hrm
[01:52] <arrrghhh> i figured if they released it, it was final
[01:52] <hydrogen> err
[01:52] <hydrogen> by that logic
[01:52] <arrrghhh> i do like the look of it, just seems like all the customization has gone
[01:52] <hydrogen> kubuntu should never release hardy
[01:52] <hydrogen> because gutsy is *final*
[01:52] <pierreth> http://pastebin.com/d2211ff9e
[01:52] <arrrghhh> hydrogen: uhm... you're missing the point
[01:52] <hydrogen> nope, I think you are
[01:53] <arrrghhh> lol
[01:53] <NexaMac> ssshhh both of you :<
[01:53] <NexaMac> !ot | hydrogen
[01:53] <ubotu> hydrogen: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[01:53] <arrrghhh> i mean final like it's ready for public
[01:53] <NexaMac> :p
[01:53] <hydrogen> A release is a snapshot of development that is considdered worthy of others to view
[01:53] <arrrghhh> kde4 still isn't RC is it?
[01:53] <arrrghhh> it was my understanding it went final jan 11
[01:53] <hydrogen> it did
[01:54] <NickPresta> arrrghhh, http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3174
[01:54] <hydrogen> The concepts of a standard release were a bit abused for kde4.0
[01:54] <mefisto__> could someone try opening http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/LPG/51628~Face-Posters.jpg in gimp with Open Location (in the file menu). Mine's not working
[01:54] <hydrogen> to stop people from nitpicking at the internals and focus on the applications and other parts
[01:54] <arrrghhh> yea seemed like they rushed kde4
[01:54] <hydrogen> but Its by no means final
[01:54] <hydrogen> not rushed, this needed to happen so that attention could be focused on other parts of kde
[01:55] <arrrghhh> i see
[01:55] <arrrghhh> yea in reading that article i completely agree
[01:55] <arrrghhh> it should not have been considered a release, because that'll make people think that's it's ready
[01:56] <navetz> can somebody please help me set up kmail to work with hotmail.
[01:56] <hydrogen> It is ready
[01:56] <hydrogen> for early adopters
[01:56] <NickPresta> mefisto__, install gimp-libcurl and it will work :)
[01:56] <arrrghhh> i see
[01:56] <hydrogen> personally I've been using it as my primary desktop for about two months now
[01:56] <mefisto__> thanks NickPresta
[01:56] <hydrogen> and yes, theres still some big things missing
[01:56] <hydrogen> but I'm willing to give those up :)
[01:56] <arrrghhh> see i thought those big things would be wrapped up
[01:56] <arrrghhh> and it would just be little things
[01:56] <arrrghhh> or bug fixes
[01:56] <arrrghhh> not like interface options lol
[01:57] <killermach> ok.. I"m ready to get rid of dolphin.. too limited to be an everyday useful file manager
[01:57] <arrrghhh> i remember reading about phonon and plasma etc not really being 'ready'
[01:57] <killermach> how do I configure the "system menu" panel applet?
[01:57] <NickPresta> navetz, I believe Hotmail stopped allowing remote POP3 access unless you paid.
[01:58] <navetz_> NickPresta: but there are other ways to do it
[01:58] <navetz_> NickPresta: its just none of them are working for me
[01:58] <fyrmedic> anyone have a link to a page with instructions to get my wireless drivers back to their original state?  Hotmail doesn't provide pop3/smtp settings?
[01:59] <pierreth> mefisto__: what is the problem with this image?
[01:59] <navetz_> NickPresta: you can use gotmail
[01:59] <arrrghhh> how i got hotmail to work in thunderbird was an extension
[01:59] <navetz_> NickPresta: but i havn't got it to work, although many other have
[01:59] <NickPresta> navetz_, well, yes, but that isn't a #kubuntu support topic :)
[01:59] <arrrghhh> i had to install an extension and it created a pop server on my machine just for it i think
[01:59] <navetz_> arrrghhh: i wanted to forward my messages to my gmail account and just read them there
[01:59] <arrrghhh> ok
[01:59] <navetz_> arrrghhh: but hotmail banned forwarding to gmail
[01:59] <arrrghhh> so forward your mail
[02:00] <arrrghhh> really?
[02:00] <arrrghhh> that's strange
[02:00] <navetz_> yea
[02:00] <NickPresta> it seems like a lot of work to use hotmail in the client of your choice. It would probably be less of a hassle to switch to gmail and update your contacts :)
[02:00] <arrrghhh> microshaft
[02:00] <navetz_> nah, thats a lot like them
[02:00] <arrrghhh> ditch your hotmail acct then
[02:00] <navetz_> I have been using it for 6 years
[02:00] <arrrghhh> so
[02:00] <arrrghhh> i've had mine for 10
[02:00] <namespace> I got a problem with my mounted shares: uhm i have samba troubles: when i mount my share, it gets autom. assigned to owner messagebus and GID 1000. I added a group samba and set its GID to 1000 and added my user to this group but when i create a folder I still can't change the permissions, why not? it gets automatically assigned drwxr-xr-x :( why:o
[02:00] <arrrghhh> doesn't mean i like it
[02:00] <NickPresta> That is the risk you run when you use a free email service. They can change it and you can't do anything :)
[02:01] <arrrghhh> indeed
[02:01] <navetz_> I dont like it either :(
[02:01] <pierreth> crimsun: have you seen my pastbin?
[02:01] <namespace> i got create mask = 0777    directory mask = 0777    force create mode = 0777 in my smb.conf but directories don't get 777 assigned on creation, why not?
[02:01] <sandroz> hi
[02:01] <NickPresta> hi, sandroz
[02:01] <pierreth> hello
[02:01] <sandroz> i am from Brazil
[02:01] <navetz_> i was thinking of forwarding the mail to my website email address, then having that address forward me the mail to my gmail account
[02:01] <namespace> hi sandroz
[02:01] <arrrghhh> sandroz: what's your question
[02:01] <namespace> anyone able to help with my samba problems?
[02:01] <pierreth> i am from america
[02:01] <NickPresta> !br | sandroz if you need it:
[02:01] <ubotu> sandroz if you need it:: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[02:02] <namespace> i'm from Canada ;)
[02:02] <navetz_> Canada :)
[02:02] <pierreth> i am from canada of america
[02:02] <namespace> haha hi Canada users :)
[02:03] <navetz_> hallo
[02:03] <namespace> anyone able to help with my samba issue?
[02:03] <mefisto__> namespace: it's important to keep the hip movement relaxed and fluid
[02:03] <sandroz> my question: kubuntu uses 3D desktop ?
[02:03] <NickPresta> !compiz | sandroz
[02:03] <ubotu> sandroz: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[02:03] <navetz_> everyone loves compiz :)
[02:03] <arrrghhh> namespace: isn't there a room for samba?  doesn't sound like a kubuntu issue to me
[02:03] <navetz_> except everyone who doesn't
[02:03] <carlos> sandroz> sim usa compiz
[02:04] <sandroz> cool
[02:04] <namespace> arrgh: there is but no one is replying so i thought i could ask here
[02:04] <arrrghhh> namespace: i see, i'd google around... i am no good with samba and it sounds like no one else here is confident enough to help you with it either
[02:05] <namespace> arrghh: i already have... oh well.... i'll try again .... thanks anyways
[02:06] <namespace> i'll cya guys, cheers and go EH! ;)
[02:06] <kadam> As soon as I start amarok and try to play something, it says 'device already in use, xine parameters:' .  Does anyone know what to do about this?  Also, I used to use KMIX, but now Kmix is empty when it opens...
[02:08] <killermach> when I click the "computer icon" next to the K-Gear menu on the main panel, I get dolphin, I want to get konqueror as was in previous versions
[02:08] <NickPresta> d3lphin | killermach
[02:09] <kadam> !xine
[02:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:09] <mefisto__> kadam: does amarok always have that error? what if you try it before using other audio progs?
[02:09] <NickPresta> !d3lphin | killermach
[02:09] <ubotu> killermach: Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[02:09] <kadam> Is it possible to tell what's using my audio device?
[02:10] <killermach> NickPresta: the title bar says D"O"lphin  not "D"3"lphin
[02:10] <NickPresta> killermach, it's the same thing. It's called D3lphin in KDE 3.5.8 and Dolphin in KDE 4.0
[02:11] <NickPresta> D3lphin is Dolphin ported to KDE 3.5.8, I believe
[02:12] <NickPresta> Anyways, I'll be back later guys (and gals).
[02:13] <mefisto__> I see 3 dolphins: d3lphin dolphin and dolphin-kde4
[02:13] <kadam> Alright, I've discovered that only root can play audio/use the audio device.  Is there a way to fix this so regular users can?
[02:13] <NexaMac> :x
[02:13] <NexaMac> i found the cause of error 17 it seems.. theres no grub in /boot o_O
[02:13] <NexaMac> any helpfull tips here?
[02:14] <mefisto__> install grub?
[02:14] <NexaMac> >_>
[02:14] <NexaMac> no idea how to do it from the livecd without installing the entire OS tbh
[02:14] <mefisto__> look at grub-install --help
[02:14] <NexaMac> k
[02:14] <kadam> It seems only root can use the audio device... How can I make it so regular users can, too?
[02:15] <kadam> oh sorry
[02:19] <NexaMac> mefisto__: so, apt-get install grub --root-directory=/dev/hdd1/boot ?
[02:21] <NexaMac> :<
[02:28] <acme___> hey hey
[02:28] <acme___> I broke my x server, some help plz :(
[02:29] <acme___> was trying to install the nvidia drivers, and i think it downloaded and installed but when i restarted x server i get an error
[02:29] <Tm_T> !nvidia | acme___
[02:29] <ubotu> acme___: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:30] <acme___> uh, how do i open that link, im stuck in terminal?
[02:30] <acme___> i saw the nividia package made a backup of my conf, how do i restore that?
[02:30] <acme___> tried to cd to the directory, but...thats not workin
[02:31] <corinth> acme___:  what's the name of the backup?
[02:31] <acme___> uh, xconf somethin somethin
[02:31] <acme___> the date most likely
[02:38] <acme___> you know i think the server is tryin to output video to the vga port? instead of dvi which is what i have
[02:38] <acme___> or maybe im wrong?
[02:38] <acme___> how can i change it
[02:39] <acme___> sudo nano /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[02:39] <acme___> woops
[02:42] <acme___> plz some help
[02:44] <corinth> acme___: cd /etc/X11/
[02:44] <corinth> acme___: sudo cd <name of backup file> xorg.conf
[02:45] <tinin> acme___ next time try to use the envy script from alberto milone to install the drivers, it is much more easy
[02:45] <ForgeAus> erm thats weird someone went and registered the nickname _ubuntu?
[02:45] <se7en_> j #kubuntu-kde
[02:45] <ForgeAus> isn't that a default the kubuntu livecd uses?
[02:46] <hydrogen> that'd be why someone did it probably :)
[02:46] <ForgeAus> anyhow, I need some help my kubuntu isn't booting... it can mount the filesystem but doesn't do much at all after that
[02:48] <acme___> not working :(
[02:48] <thomas_newbie__> my ssh and apache server starts each time i boot up my os. How to disable that
[02:48] <acme___> i opened the conf in a text editor, its empty
[02:48] <acme___> is that normal?
[02:50] <jords> thomas_newbie: In system settings, if you go to the advanced tab and click on system services you should be able to configure them to not start as booy
[02:51] <mefisto__> booy?
[02:53] <jords> boot :D
[02:53] <mefisto__> lol, I was googling booy to find out what it means
[02:56] <mefisto__> acme___: xorg.conf is empty?
[02:59] <ForgeAus> argh I think I know why I have a problem
[03:00] <ForgeAus> my /etc has become a file somehow instead of a directory :(
[03:00] <ForgeAus> can I fix it somehow?
[03:01] <acme___> mefisto__  apparently
[03:01] <acme___> unless i didnt open it properly
[03:02] <corporeal> lo
[03:03] <mefisto__> acme___: type this: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:03] <mefisto__> it should print the file to the screen
[03:04] <spideyman> has anyone found a fix for the search field text problem in frostwire
[03:05] <acme___> o snap
[03:05] <acme___> i fixed it
[03:05] <acme___> somehow...
[03:06] <acme___> switchin to konversation brb
[03:06] <mefisto__> acme___: what did you do?
[03:09] <Creationist> Someone please help!  For some reason, out of the blue, any time I try to play a video on my computer, whether embedded online or from my camcorder, the video is completely scrambled, but the audio is fine.  What happened and how do I fix this?  Same results with Totem, Mplayer, Kaffeine, and VLC
[03:10] <mixed> anyone know how to manually update Punk Buster for Quake III?
[03:11] <mefisto__> Creationist: all video files?
[03:14] <BlahingHereAndTh> how can i auto unlock my keyring in kubuntu 7.04?
[03:15] <thomas_newbie__> I found a package on the ubuntu site but I can't find the same in adept manager :( ?
[03:15] <BlahingHereAndTh> thomas_newbie__, what package?
[03:15] <thomas_newbie__> BlahingHereAndTh: User-Mode Linux Kernel
[03:17] <BlahingHereAndTh> i don't see it in apt :(
[03:17] <BlahingHereAndTh> i found the doc (lol)
[03:19] <thomas_newbie__> BlahingHereAndTh: yea i nkow
[03:19] <thomas_newbie__> BlahingHereAndTh: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/misc/user-mode-linux
[03:20] <BlahingHereAndTh> i am not on gutsy... it hates my laptop, so i am still on the 7.04 repo...
[03:20] <spideyman> what should the install path be for flash in gutsy
[03:23] <spideyman> nevermind i figured it out it goes to the browser folder in /usr/lib
[03:26] <BlahingHereAndTh> i wish pidgin would compile faster ^_^
[03:27] <surgy> ok i just got my first printer sense i made the switch to linux, its an hp deskjet 3915, i plugged it in now whats the next step to making it usable?
[03:29] <surgy> nvm i figured it out
[03:29] <surgy> thnx though
[03:32] <chuso> hi all :) first of all sorry for my english
[03:32] <chuso> is there any workaround to make kopete works fine under gutsy/kde4.0?
[03:34] <thomas_newbie__> Would I increase security of my Webserver if I changed from port 80?
[03:34] <biovore> not really
[03:34] <biovore> you make the webserver more secure by restricting what it can do..
[03:34] <Dragnslcr> It would stop some cursory attacks
[03:34] <thomas_newbie__> biovore: why not?  most people expect webservers to be port 80
[03:35] <Dragnslcr> It wouldn't stop a determined attack though
[03:35] <biovore> nmap will show people what ports are open..
[03:35] <biovore> ussualy you get port scanned first..
[03:35] <thomas_newbie__> true
[03:35] <thomas_newbie__> right
[03:35] <Dragnslcr> And it would annoy people trying to get to your site
[03:35] <Dragnslcr> Since they'd have to put in the port number manually
[03:35] <thomas_newbie__> so you guys say I should leave it?  I have no audio, audio worked under the Kubuntu Live CD. Syste: Dell XPS M1330, Windows driver is AC`97 Audio. What can I try to enable audio? I have checked all volume levels yet no audio.
[03:37] <Dragnslcr> Alamue- might try checking the volume levels in alsamixer as well as kmix
[03:37] <thomas_newbie__> Dragnslcr: theoretically you would think that it would add SOME degree of security since its expected to be 80 usually
[03:37] <Dragnslcr> I've seen one or two channels that are in alsamixer but not in kmix
[03:37] <Alamue> Where is alsamixer located?
[03:38] <Dragnslcr> thomas_newbie__- it would stop a fair number of trivial script kiddies, but that would be it
[03:38] <thomas_newbie__> biovore: see I was thinking of adding php or perl to my server. Bad idea?
[03:38] <Dragnslcr> !info alsamixergui
[03:38] <ubotu> alsamixergui: graphical soundcard mixer for ALSA soundcard driver. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.0rc2-1-9 (gutsy), package size 29 kB, installed size 148 kB
[03:38] <Alamue> Thank you. Headphones work, I am just trying to get the built in speakers working now.
[03:38] <Dragnslcr> Alamue- that might be a bit easier to work with than alsamixer
[03:39] <Dragnslcr> I know I had to use alsamixer to get the digital outputs working on my sound system, so I always recommend checking it just to be sure
[03:39] <Alamue> Thank you. I need to install all of the gnome packages to install alsamixer.
[03:40] <Dragnslcr> You can use alsamixer from the shell instead if you don't want to install the Gnome libraries
[03:40] <Alamue> I have also been getting another issue. When attempting to install certain programs/files from the repositories I get "Could not install file commit to big or could break packages"
[03:42] <Alamue> "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly a problem downloading packages, or else the commit would break packages"
[03:42] <Dragnslcr> You can try checking /var/log/dpkg.log maybe
[03:42] <Alamue> It does install it though, except j2re.
[03:43] <Alamue> Alsamixer fixed it, I also had to change what the master volume is.
[03:44] <BlahingHereAndTh> how do i auto unlock my keyring in 7.04?
[03:44] <Dragnslcr> If a package's install gets messed up, apt tries to finish the install every time you use it
[03:44] <Dragnslcr> I think it's every time, anyway
[03:44] <BlahingHereAndTh> yeah...
[03:44] <BlahingHereAndTh> you have to use -f...
[03:44] <Alamue> Dragnslcr: Thanks, this latest switch to Kubuntu has been rough, this laptop dislikes Linux.
[03:45] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, laptops can be tough sometimes. A lot of the hardware is made companies coughbroadcomcough that don't support Linux
[03:45] <lasca1> hello everyone
[03:46] <Alamue> I stopped VLC player but the song is still playing.......
[03:47] <posingaspopular> Alamue: killall vlc
[03:48] <Alamue> vlc: no process killed
[03:50] <grul> try ps aux | grep vlc
[03:50] <grul> to find the process
[03:52] <Alamue> wxvlc was still running. I manually killed the process and that worked.
[03:55] <|Toad> anyone here?
[03:55] <NickPresta> we're here, |Toad
[03:56] <|Toad> i just installed kde4 on gutsy gibbon and i was changing display settings and it froze
[03:56] <|Toad> now kde4 won't load
[03:57] <darin_> i donno what i did but i can't use any sudo commands on my ubuntu 7.10 server and i dont have any other suers added that have sudo permissions. it says that my uder is not in the sudoers file. any suggestions?
[04:00] <darin_> ok i will take it that no one is here that can help me
[04:01] <dettoaltrimenti> what do you need darin
[04:01] <darin_> ok i will take it that no one is here that can help me
[04:01] <darin_> i donno what i did but i can't use any sudo commands on my ubuntu 7.10 server and i dont have any other suers added that have sudo permissions. it says that my uder is not in the sudoers file. any suggestions?
[04:02] <dettoaltrimenti> hmm. try a sudo command and tell me what it says
[04:03] <NickPresta> |Toad, I saw that you asked in #kubuntu-kde4. I would wait for a response there
[04:05] <darin_> when i do a sudo command it says darin is not in the sudoers file and this event will be reported
[04:05] <darin_> but it sends the report to my mail account
[04:06] <darin_> i read that i should enable the root account but from the cli on the server it says i dont have permissions to do so
[04:06] <jords> My /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc is scrwed up.... can someone give me a unedited copy of this file? reinstalling kdm is'nt returning it to the defaukt
[04:07] <jords> *default
[04:07] <NickPresta> jords, use the --purge option when removing
[04:07] <NickPresta> that should remove the configuration files
[04:07] <|Toad> nope, didn't work
[04:07] <|Toad> it just left me at a blank black screen this time
[04:08] <|Toad> had to do a hard power down
[04:08] <|Toad> there isn
[04:08] <|Toad> isn't a config file i can edit?
[04:10] <MuNzE> some1 know why my gdm crash after install kde4  from gnome....install yesterday everything was ok?
[04:11] <jords> NickPresta: that wants to remove kubuntu-desktop as well. I moved  the kdmrc and reinstalled kdmrc with aptitude, but it has'nt recreated the file
[04:12] <jords> even though apt-file says the kdmrc belongs to the kde package
[04:12] <lasca1> i've been trying to patch, compile and the latest version of mad-wifi, and i'm getting errors all over the place and am pretty frustrated.  Is there a separate channel for mad-wifi, or does someone here know something that I don't?
[04:13] <maduser> kde4, to buggy for kubuntu?
[04:14] <maduser> All i have has been issue after issue
[04:14] <Tm_T> meh, all is fine here (though I don't use packages)
[04:15] <maduser> what did you use?
[04:15] <MuNzE> windoz
[04:15] <MuNzE> lol
[04:15] <Tm_T> maduser: I compile KDE4 several times a day
[04:15] <Tm_T> MuNzE: not funny
[04:15] <maduser> wha?
[04:15] <maduser> why constantly compile it?
[04:15] <MuNzE> not funny i can login after isntall kde ??
[04:15] <MuNzE> this is ok ?
[04:16] <MuNzE> can not sorry
[04:16] <BlahingHereAndTh> how come i have no sound on youtube?
[04:16] <Tm_T> MuNzE: hmmm, interesting, have you tried KDM ?
[04:16] <lasca1> i've been trying to patch, compile and the latest version of mad-wifi, and i'm getting errors all over the place and am pretty frustrated.  Is there a separate channel for mad-wifi, or does someone here know something that I don't?
[04:16] <MuNzE> yes
[04:16] <MuNzE> and kdm crash to
[04:16] <MuNzE> yesterday everything was ok
[04:16] <Tm_T> maduser: and why not?
[04:16] <maduser> BlahingHereAndTh is the sound bar all the way down, I have that problem
[04:17] <Tm_T> MuNzE: hmm, any errors?
[04:17] <BlahingHereAndTh> nope....
[04:21] <jessica> hello, i can't play mp3 anymore in amarok. i've installed libxine1-ffmpeg but it still gives me that error. how can i fix it?
[04:23] <jessie_> hey buys
[04:23] <jessie_> *guys
[04:23] <Tm_T> jessica: "that error" is what?
[04:24] <jessica> Tm_T: some media could not be loaded (not playable)
[04:24] <jessica> Tm_T: when I try to add mp3s to the playlist. other filetypes are fine
[04:26] <artur_> does anyone here plays supertux?
[04:26] <artur_> or has already played
[04:28] <kye> my taskbar just stopped showing and i can not get it to come back?
[04:30] <marx2k> yknow, Ive really got to say... I do like KDE 3.5 more than 4 so far
[04:31] <kye> marx2k: would you happend to know how to get the taskbar to show? it just stopped showing and i dont know how to get it back
[04:34] <marx2k> kye: I would just delete ~/.kde4 and start fresh
[04:34] <|Toad> okay, i got kde4 working again
[04:34] <marx2k> KDE4 so far is too buggy for me to use. Im sticking with 3.5 for now
[04:35] <|Toad> anyone know how i can make the taskbar smaller?
[04:35] <marx2k> the taskbar seems to have no settings options
[04:35] <|Toad> exactly
[04:35] <|Toad> why is it so big?
[04:35] <marx2k> no idea
[04:37] <kye> My taskbar isnt showing anymore how can i fix this?
[04:39] <maduser> type kicker into the terminal
[04:39] <maduser> you kicker from kde 3 will apear
[04:39] <corinth> |Toad: It will have resizing options, but it's not done yet.
[04:40] <kye> kdub@GotWork:~$ kicker
[04:40] <kye> ERROR: kicker is already running!
[04:40] <kye> but i still can not see the taskbar
[04:43] <|Toad> is there any way i can get my system tray power/battery settings in kde4?
[04:43] <|Toad> when i unplug it, the screen doesn't dim anymore
[04:52] <Onyx> how can i remove kio_media_mounthelper?
[04:52] <posingaspopular> sudo /etc/init.d/kicker restart should do it
[04:52] <posingaspopular> im not positive though kye
[04:52] <posingaspopular> or you could try 'force-reload'
[04:52] <posingaspopular> but im going to bed, gl
[04:54] <mot__> what's the word i'm looking for
[04:54] <mot__> when you take a noise and convert it to a word...
[04:54] <mot__> i.e.
[04:54] <kye> posingaspopular: I get a Error i will try to paste
[04:54] <mot__> a sneeze sounds like "a-chew"
[04:54] <mot__> damn what's that word..
[04:58] <kye>  X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
[04:58] <kye>   Major opcode:  19
[04:58] <kye>   Minor opcode:  0
[04:58] <kye>   Resource id:  0x1c00fce
[04:58] <kye> X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
[04:58] <kye>   Major opcode:  19
[04:58] <kye>   Minor opcode:  0
[04:58] <kye>   Resource id:  0x1800097
[04:58] <kye> sorry for the flood
[04:58] <kye> this is the error i get when i run kicker
[04:59] <se7en_> !ps |
[04:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ps - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:59] <zachary_> does anyone here have an issue with firefox in kubuntu 7.10, where when scrolling, the page stutters consistantly every other second?
[05:00] <zachary_> It is not another process running either, almost like the cpu peaks out..
[05:01] <hsystemx_> zachary, can be video issue.
[05:01] <hsystemx_> do you have the correct drivers for your video carD?
[05:02] <zachary_> hsystemx_ I assue Kubuntu uses the same gma910 driver than Ubuntu does, which works fine.  Any Suggestions?
[05:03] <hsystemx_> what procesor do you have?
[05:03] <hsystemx_> video card?, memory? , any candy eyes stuff?
[05:03] <hsystemx_> on?
[05:04] <zachary_> No eye candy, Intel Pentium M 2.0ghz, 2gb ram, its a thinkpad Z60t
[05:04] <hsystemx_> and its only with firefox, doenst happen with konqueror?
[05:04] <hsystemx_> doesnt*
[05:05] <zachary_> nope
[05:05] <zachary_> just firefox
[05:06] <zachary_> hmmm, it looks like it reverted to a generic intel vesa driver, let me restart X, and see if that fixes it :)
[05:07] <hsystemx_> ok
[05:08] <Makuseru> what opens a .raw? (RAW Camera Image)
[05:09] <hsystemx_> am, try opening it with gimp ?
[05:09] <acme64> alright! everything is OK
[05:10] <acme64> new issue if you will
[05:10] <acme64> installin kde4
[05:10] <acme64> To avoid having to start a second X server for a full session install xserver-xephyr and run Xephyr :1 then  and run /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde in the Xerphyr xterm.
[05:10] <acme64> dunno what that mean, how do i do that?
[05:10] <hsystemx_> acme 64
[05:11] <eatThisAndDie> guys, i'm using pidgin for IMs, How do i configure it so taht the taskbar blinks when there is a new msg?
[05:11] <eatThisAndDie> AFAIK i should be configuring KNotify rite?
[05:11] <nibbe> Hi people
[05:11] <hsystemx_> alt + f2 , write konsole  ,  ENTER!  ,  write sudo apt-get update   , ENTER!   , writer sudo apt-get install xserver-xephyr
[05:11] <acme64> oo,h, its a package
[05:12] <nibbe> Quite funny, can't find how to change the screen resolution, where do I do that? (Kubuntu)
[05:12] <hsystemx_> after that   ,  alt + f2 again, write Xephyr :1 , ENTER!
[05:12] <acme64> and i do that like, right now
[05:12] <acme64> not switching to kde4 yet?
[05:13] <hsystemx_> after all of that, it is supposed to pop up some kind of terminal .konsole, in there write: /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde
[05:13] <hsystemx_> ENTER.
[05:13] <hsystemx_> im nto a kde user :)
[05:13] <hsystemx_> not8
[05:13] <hsystemx_> not*
[05:13] <acme64> hmm
[05:13] <acme64> sounds simple enough
[05:13] <hsystemx_> yep, give it a try
[05:15] <NickPresta> if I had to use a Debian repository, would Stable or Testing be close to *buntu 7.10?
[05:16] <acme64> Extended Input Devices not yet supported. Impelement it at line 625 in ../../../../hw/kdrive/src/kinput.c
[05:16] <acme64> Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic, removing from list!
[05:16] <acme64> :o
[05:16] <acme64> i broke xephyr it seems
[05:18] <nibbe> Quite funny, can't find how to change the screen resolution, where do I do that? (Kubuntu)
[05:19] <acme64> nibbe: click the k menu and go to system settings
[05:19] <nibbe> found it
[05:19] <acme64> then monitor & display
[05:21] <nibbe> how do i open a .tar.gz in the terminal?
[05:21] <zachary_> hmm, that didn't seem to work either.  It is using the i810 driver.  I could've sworn there is a newer driver that Ubuntu used for my GPU
[05:23] <ForgeAus> nibbe what do you mean how to extract it?
[05:23] <ForgeAus> or how to view the files in it?
[05:23] <nibbe> yeah
[05:23] <ForgeAus> (if you have midnight commander you can view the files in it)
[05:23] <ForgeAus> the program your looking for is tar
[05:23] <ForgeAus> I'm not so good with the switches you need tho
[05:23] <eatThisAndDie> nibbe: tar -xzvf filename.tar.gz
[05:23] <Dr_willis> mc is a darn handy tool
[05:23] <ForgeAus> so do a man tar
[05:23] <Dr_willis> !info unp
[05:23] <ubotu> unp: unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.12 (gutsy), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB
[05:24] <Dr_willis> unp is handy also. for lazy people like me.
[05:24] <ForgeAus> ok eatThis seems to know better :)
[05:24] <eatThisAndDie> yes, and now i need to know.... how do i set the "urgent hint" thing?
[05:24] <eatThisAndDie> i want it to blink til kingdom come.
[05:25] <ForgeAus> what urgent hint thing?
[05:25] <eatThisAndDie> rite now it blinks like 5 times and stops.
[05:25] <eatThisAndDie> send 'urgent hint' to the window,
[05:25] <eatThisAndDie> which is supposed to cause minimized windows to like... blink.
[05:26] <ForgeAus> oh kinda like notifying a change has occurred?
[05:26] <eatThisAndDie> exactly
[05:26] <eatThisAndDie> i specifically want my messages tat i get with pidgin to cause the window to blink
[05:26] <ForgeAus> like say konversation turns red when theres a message you havn't read
[05:26] <ForgeAus> (when its minimized)
[05:26] <eatThisAndDie> it DOES?
[05:26] <ForgeAus> erm pigdin is beyond me
[05:26] <ForgeAus> yes it does at least in kubuntu
[05:26] <ForgeAus> isn't pigdin gaims remake?
[05:27] <eatThisAndDie> yeah it is
[05:27] <ForgeAus> yeah sorry I don't know much about that
[05:27] <eatThisAndDie> they had some agreement with AIM for the usage of the name,
[05:27] <ForgeAus> konversation is only IRC
[05:27] <eatThisAndDie> AFAIK anyway
[05:27] <ForgeAus> you need kopete for other IM's... (or pigdin)
[05:27] <ForgeAus> kopete can do IRC but its kinda strange, not really my idea of IRC that way...
[05:28] <eatThisAndDie> yeah, i dont particularly like kopete.
[05:28] <family> does anyone know if ndiswrapper is supported out of the box? the reason behind this is i dont have a ethernet card only a wireless.
[05:28] <ForgeAus> oh don't get me wrong overall I like the app I just don't find it all that suitable for IRC
[05:28] <eatThisAndDie> i was used to KSirc
[05:28] <eatThisAndDie> on fedora that is,
[05:28] <family> so i need to be able to use ndiswrapper to load up my wireless driver. with out it on the disc im pretty screwed :)
[05:28] <ForgeAus> havn't really fiddled with ksirc
[05:29] <Dr_willis> ive not used ksirc in.. ages...
[05:29] <acme64> i tihnk you need a plugin for pidgin to do that
[05:29] <eatThisAndDie> family: AFAIK it is,
[05:29] <acme64> cuz its not in the default options
[05:29] <ForgeAus> kopete is fairly comparable to trillian for windows ... (well maybe not the astra version)
[05:29] <family> AFAIK?
[05:29] <acme64> as far as i know
[05:29] <Dr_willis> !afaik
[05:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about afaik - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:29] <family> aw lol thanks
[05:29] <eatThisAndDie> acme64: thats right, I have Message Notification set up.
[05:29] <Dr_willis> !info wtf
[05:29] <ubotu> Package wtf does not exist in gutsy
[05:29] <acme64> lol
[05:30] <Dr_willis> There used to be some command that told ya what all these anacromyms ment.
[05:30] <family> latest version right i believe you guys are in gustsy?
[05:30] <Dr_willis> but i forget its name.
[05:30] <acme64> !info in-my-pants
[05:30] <ubotu> Package in-my-pants does not exist in gutsy
[05:30] <acme64> pwned
[05:30] <acme64> family:  i dont even know lol
[05:30] <acme64> where do ya check
[05:30] <eatThisAndDie> family: I'm on 7.10, no idea whats the code for it
[05:30] <family> :)
[05:31] <acme64> i get adept tryin to auto update, but it always fails with some erro
[05:31] <ForgeAus> hmmm its a pity the open source kylix isn't being developed anymore
[05:31] <acme64> i dont think it has root privilage to update
[05:31] <family> yea thats gutsy
[05:31] <ForgeAus> I guess lazarus has to do as a replacement
[05:31] <eatThisAndDie> I had an idea for a restaurant: Worlds Tastiest Fish (WTF)
[05:31] <ForgeAus> lol eatThis
[05:31] <Dr_willis> I rember all the hype about Kylix when it came out..
[05:32] <family> so gusty has ndiswrapper on the load i dont have to apt-get ndiswrapper and apt-get ndiswrapper-utils?
[05:32] <ForgeAus> what some poison type? (isn't puffer fish poisonous?)
[05:32] <eatThisAndDie> And if your food's late; you go "WTF" to the waiter. WTF being Where's The Food
[05:32] <Dr_willis> Puffer Fish is very posionous.
[05:32] <Dr_willis> well parts of it. :)
[05:32] <eatThisAndDie> I prefer BlowFish
[05:32] <eatThisAndDie> its secure
[05:32] <eatThisAndDie> :D
[05:32] <ForgeAus> lol eatThis :)
[05:32] <corinth> Haha.
[05:32] <ForgeAus> encrypted fish, what next!
[05:33] <family> im trying to get rid of pclos
[05:33]  * ForgeAus tosses eatThis a Tuna and asks WTF can't I encrypt this?...
[05:33] <acme64> ok so my xephyr is broken anyone know what this means?
[05:33] <acme64> Extended Input Devices not yet supported. Impelement it at line 625 in ../../../../hw/kdrive/src/kinput.c
[05:33] <eatThisAndDie> Forge: try apt-get install libmcrypt
[05:33] <eatThisAndDie> :D
[05:33] <ForgeAus> ahh xephyr... the xnest-like proggy :)
[05:34] <family> should i get alternate install or desktop?
[05:34] <ForgeAus> acme which kubuntu u using? edgy?
[05:34] <acme64> iunno
[05:34] <ForgeAus> check your xorg.conf
[05:34] <family> uname
[05:35] <family> uname -r i think it is
[05:35] <ForgeAus> you may just need to take out the laptop/tablet input control stuff
[05:35] <family> then whats the kernel
[05:35] <acme64> Linux acme-lnx 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Dec 18 08:02:57 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:35] <family> that would be i think the latest gutsy
[05:35] <family> yea its gusty
[05:35] <ForgeAus> hehe nice gutsy :)
[05:35] <family> 7.10
[05:35] <ForgeAus> I like feisty myself...
[05:35] <ForgeAus> but only had edgy :)
[05:35] <acme64> first time runnin linux :p
[05:36] <acme64> no difference to me i suppose
[05:36] <eatThisAndDie> the names............ they burn
[05:36] <ForgeAus> acme check out your xorg.conf (forgot where it resides prolly somewhere in /etc/x11 ??? at a guess)
[05:36] <acme64> yea
[05:36] <family> forgeaus do you know if ndiswrapper is supported out of the box? or has it on the install
[05:36] <ForgeAus> um family is it in adept?
[05:36] <ForgeAus> if so just install it that way...
[05:36] <family> yea see thats the problem
[05:36] <ForgeAus> I think thats how it works
[05:36] <family> i need it on the ce
[05:36] <family> cd
[05:37] <ForgeAus> I don't know much about ndiswrapper to be honest
[05:37] <family> i installed this last time
[05:37] <ForgeAus> oh you need a custom CD?
[05:37] <ForgeAus> the live CD prolly doesn't have it by default
[05:37] <family> and couldnt get my wireless to work on my laptop because i dont have a ethernet card only wireless
[05:37] <ForgeAus> so your out-of-the-box question is a no
[05:37] <acme64> xorg.conf is open
[05:37] <eatThisAndDie> family: whats your purpose with this? You want your wireless to be available out of the box?
[05:37] <family> yep
[05:37] <ForgeAus> acme, what input devices are in there?
[05:38] <family> eatthisanddie my lap top doesnt have a ethernet port
[05:38] <acme64> all of them...lol
[05:38] <family> only wireless card :P
[05:38] <ForgeAus> there should be a stylus, or a touchpad, etc one that you can disable
[05:38] <eatThisAndDie> family: i dunno how much this will help, but mine worked out of the box...
[05:38] <ForgeAus> which MAY fix your error
[05:38] <acme64> stylus, eraser, cursor
[05:38] <ForgeAus> (I think edgy had 3 of them
[05:38] <ForgeAus> yes those ones
[05:38] <acme64> delete them?
[05:38] <ForgeAus> disable them (commet them out or something)
[05:38] <family> eatthisanddie do you have a broadcom wireless chip set
[05:38] <NickPresta> family, *buntu comes with the ndiswrapper module pre-installed. It needs the ndiswrapper-utils package to get it working. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper#head-715b64e4eb010761a0c694dde40d3a569f414b5e
[05:38] <ForgeAus> I wouldn't suggest deleting...
[05:39] <eatThisAndDie> i'm pretty sure mine's an intel.
[05:39] <family> hmm
[05:39] <family> sounds good
[05:39] <ForgeAus> I think comments are just a # to put infront of the line...
[05:39] <eatThisAndDie> sorry bro, its a company laptop which i just got on friday
[05:39] <eatThisAndDie> i'm prety new to it meself.
[05:39] <ForgeAus> that way if you need them sometime later on (unlikely) or if something goes wrong you can fix it
[05:39] <family> ill just load the utils on a cd or sumthin
[05:39] <acme64> ok done
[05:39] <ForgeAus> now try it and see if xephyr still gives the same error
[05:40] <acme64> nope!
[05:40] <acme64> new error though
[05:40] <ForgeAus> awesome
[05:40] <acme64> lol
[05:40] <ForgeAus> lol
[05:40] <family> wow this is great hey thanks nickpresta
[05:40] <acme64> Fatal server error:
[05:40] <acme64> Could not create server lock file: /tmp/.X1-lock
[05:40] <NickPresta> family, no problem
[05:40] <ForgeAus> yeah well that means its busy already
[05:40] <acme64> oh
[05:40] <ForgeAus> I'm not sure how to get around that one
[05:40] <acme64> uh its not runnin tho
[05:40] <ForgeAus> your running xephyr from outside X?
[05:40] <acme64> time to kill some processes >:)
[05:41] <ForgeAus> no wait
[05:41] <ForgeAus> killing processes isn't going to help
[05:41] <acme64> too late, already killing
[05:41] <acme64> DEATH FROM ABOVE!
[05:41] <acme64> etc
[05:41] <ForgeAus> whatever, good luck
[05:42] <acme64> hmm, its not runnin
[05:42] <ForgeAus> what isn't?
[05:42] <ForgeAus> your x server?
[05:42] <acme64> xephyr
[05:42] <ForgeAus> of coruse not it gave you an error
[05:42] <acme64> o.0
[05:42] <acme64> lol
[05:42] <ForgeAus> if it were running you'd have another window
[05:42] <acme64> well wtf does that error mean
[05:42] <ForgeAus> I told you
[05:43] <ForgeAus> it means theres already an x-server running
[05:43] <ForgeAus> thus the lock file is busy already...
[05:43] <ForgeAus> I'm not sure how xephyr is supposed to work actually
[05:43] <acme64> but, the website says i gotta run the xephyr and then type in something
[05:43] <acme64> and then i can boot into kde3
[05:43] <acme64> 4
[05:43]  * ForgeAus shrugs
[05:44] <acme64> lemme restart this
[05:44] <acme64> bbl
[05:44] <ForgeAus> good luck
[05:47] <kye> sorry for the flood
[05:47] <kye> I can not see my taskbar and i tried restarting kicker but i get a error?
[05:48] <ForgeAus> kye can you end the kicker process thats currently running if there is one?
[05:48] <kye> yes
[05:48] <ForgeAus> (I think you use kdesu ksysguard to end processes?)
[05:48] <ForgeAus> ok
[05:48] <ForgeAus> so do that
[05:49] <kye> ok
[05:49] <ForgeAus> then run kicker
[05:49] <ForgeAus> (once all kicker processes are gone)
[05:49] <kye> taskbar comes back then leaves..
[05:49] <kye> then i get this error..
[05:49] <kye> 1sec
[05:49] <kye> its 4lines
[05:49] <family> aright looks like ill be joining the kubuntu crew again :)
[05:50] <corinth> family: Yay! :-P
[05:50] <ForgeAus> hey family ... what do you mean joining the kubuntu krew? just monitoring this channel
[05:50] <ForgeAus> or as a developer or what?
[05:50] <family> :)
[05:50] <kye> [21:58] <kye> X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
[05:50] <kye> [21:58] <kye>   Major opcode:  19
[05:50] <kye> [21:58] <kye>   Minor opcode:  0
[05:50] <kye> [21:58] <kye>   Resource id:  0x1c00fce
[05:50] <family> developer and helpin i guess i was working on some stuff but then went back to school for awhile
[05:50] <kye> [21:58] <kye> X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
[05:50] <kye> [21:58] <kye>   Major opcode:  19
[05:50] <kye> [21:58] <kye>   Minor opcode:  0
[05:50] <kye> [21:58] <kye>   Resource id:  0x1800097
[05:50] <kye> sorry
[05:50] <kye> i get that
[05:51] <NickPresta> !pastebin | kye in the future use
[05:51] <ubotu> kye in the future use: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:51] <family> hey kye pastebin is your friend
[05:51] <kye> sorry :( i will due next time
[05:51] <ForgeAus> kye I've seen that error before not sure how to help you with it tho
[05:52] <surgy> my sound keeps closing and killing klauncher at the same time, can someone help me? i know thats vague buts its the best i can do, with what i have
[05:52] <corinth> Heh. I hardly think that four lines, forewarned, needs pastepin NickPresta. :-P
[05:52] <kye> humm ok.
[05:52] <ForgeAus> me too corinth but some people have strict definitionso f what they call a flood
[05:52] <Dr_willis> he could of edited them to be on 1 line. :)
[05:52] <NickPresta> corinth, that's why I said next time. Usually > 3 lines should be pastebin'd
[05:52] <ForgeAus> lol Dr Willis
[05:53] <corinth> I tend to go by the rule of 5 ;-)
[05:53] <Dr_willis> of course.. the errors really dident say much.
[05:53] <family> i still feel that ndiswrapper should be installed by default wish someone would mock that up of course i could lend a hand and open the squash file and place the .deb files in to the corresponding directory
[05:53] <ForgeAus> Presta does that work for extremely long lines of three also ?
[05:53] <surgy> anyone?
[05:53] <kye> is there a way to uninstall then reinstall the taskbar?
[05:53] <ForgeAus> hey surgy :)
[05:53] <corinth> kye: For what purpose?
[05:53] <Dr_willis> kye,  Huh?
[05:53] <surgy> heya ForgeAus hows it been man>?
[05:53] <family> wow
[05:53] <ForgeAus> kicker is part of kde's main package
[05:53] <kye> well i cant see it?
[05:53] <ForgeAus> hey surgy :) great
[05:53] <surgy> ForgeAus: im having problems with my sound
[05:53] <ForgeAus> I killed my kubuntu again
[05:53] <kye> then why did it just stop working
[05:53] <surgy> lol
[05:53] <Dr_willis> Unisntalling/reionstlling it wont affect much of anything.
[05:53] <family> get rid of the kicker sounds intresting
[05:53] <ForgeAus> sound...
[05:54] <ForgeAus> ADSA?
[05:54] <Dr_willis> if your users settings are messed up.. they are messed up. :)
[05:54] <surgy> well i was trying to burn an iso using the command "kdesudo k3b"
[05:54] <nibbe> how do i use a .cfg file? (It's a new theme. Kubuntu)
[05:54] <ForgeAus> my sound doesn't work anyway, so I probably can't help anyway
[05:54] <kye> lol
[05:54] <kye> well a man..
[05:54] <family> :) who needs sound im deaf
[05:54] <kye> how can i fix it lolol
[05:54] <ForgeAus> its kdesu not kdesudo
[05:54] <kye> guess i must format
[05:55] <ForgeAus> do you need to be root to burn?
[05:55] <surgy> and klauncher crashed and reported it was something to do with the sound, i also have this problem on some cedega games and everytime i play an emualted game on my psx emulator
[05:55] <Dr_willis> nibbe,  kde themes can be a bit complex.   a 'theme' is made of parts. such as window decorations, widgets, color sets, fonts, and icons.
[05:55] <family> no forgeAus
[05:55] <eatThisAndDie> Forge: no u dont. I think
[05:55] <family> unless your permissions are messed up
[05:55] <ForgeAus> surgy just run k3b then
[05:55] <Dr_willis> kde4 uses 'kdesudo' under kubuntu i belive. :)
[05:55] <surgy> ForgeAus: yeah man, it wont grant rw permissions to cdrom0 without root access for some reason
[05:55] <ForgeAus> oh ok Dr willis, I didn't know that my bad
[05:56] <family> anyone test out that kde4? whats the input on that any good?
[05:56] <Dr_willis> ForgeAus,  aparently thers some bugs/work arounds going on..
[05:56] <Dr_willis> family,  i would wait a few more weeks befor trying it
[05:56] <family> aww
[05:56] <ForgeAus> hmmm does cd's show up in fstab? I wonder if theres an issue there
[05:56] <Dr_willis> Lets say i had to remove kde4 to get where i could install other stuff. :)
[05:56] <surgy> ForgeAus: buts thats not my concern here my concern is that klauncher crashes a lot and im pretty sure my sound driver whatever is causing it,
[05:56] <family> well if hes having problems with k3b why not reinstall it see if it fixes the problem
[05:57] <Dr_willis> automounting filesystems/removeable devices normally dont have a fstab entry
[05:57] <ForgeAus> surgy can you update or reinstall your sound driver?
[05:57] <surgy> family: its not just k3b though it happens with three seamingly unrelated programs
[05:57] <ForgeAus> I really aren't the kinda guy to ask about this...
[05:57] <Dr_willis> family,  windows 'thinking' is to remove/reinstall..
[05:57] <family> aww
[05:57] <corinth> Firefox 3 beta2 seems really ugly under KDE, the tab bar, etc. Anyone find a fix for this?
[05:57] <eatThisAndDie> the only thng i know about sound is ALSA
[05:57] <Dr_willis> it rarely works under linux. :)
[05:57] <ForgeAus> Dr Willis I admit I come from a Windows Background...
[05:58] <kye> i got it to work
[05:58] <kye> i open kiba dock
[05:58] <ForgeAus> and reinstallation does have its merits... at times... even in the linux world...
[05:58] <eatThisAndDie> guys, anyone know what window manager 7.10 uses?
[05:58] <kye> and my whole taskbar came back
[05:58] <lasca1> i compiled and ran ndiswrapper from source and have since removed all the modules.  However, it's still registered as a bash command.  How do I completely remove it?
[05:58] <family> Dr willis worked for me many a time although i also delete conf files and redo some things
[05:58] <kye> how did that happen?
[05:58] <ForgeAus> windows manager? eat this KDE is the windows manager
[05:58] <surgy> Dr_willis: any insight into my problem? or otherwise any debugging info you can give me so i can ask a more intelegent question?
[05:58] <jussi01> eatThisAndDie: kwin
[05:58] <ForgeAus> for all Kubuntu
[05:58] <Dr_willis> too many 'people' in the linux channels think that removeing system tools.. will some how affect  the users setting files   - which often get messed up. :)
[05:58] <ForgeAus> yeah well kwin is a little more specific ut yeah
[05:58] <eatThisAndDie> ok, any idea how i can configure it?
[05:58] <corinth> eatThisAndDie: He means Kwin.
[05:58] <eatThisAndDie> kwin anyway?
[05:58] <Dr_willis> surgy,  whats the issue? i missed it.
[05:58] <corinth> Lol.
[05:59] <family> Dr willis if i had it my way i would use fvmw or even flux box
[05:59] <kye> Dr_willis: It came by when i opened  kiba-dock.. why?
[05:59] <nibbe> how do i open theme.cfg in the konsole?
[05:59] <surgy> Dr_willis: my sound something or another crashed and took down klauncher with it, and it happened while i was burning a cd this has also happened before while using cedega and again while running a playstation emulator
[05:59] <family> just so i could stay away from bug problems
[06:00] <Dr_willis> kye,  kiba-dock i though tried to replace the kicker panel.
[06:00] <corinth> Firefox 3 beta 2 seems to attempt to take on the look of the desktop it's on. On my Ubuntu, it has tango icons. On Windows, it blends great with Vista. In Kubuntu though, it loks terrible. Any way to disable this feature?
[06:00] <Dr_willis> surgy,  not sure on that. try it as a different user. as a test perhaps.
[06:01] <Dr_willis> Hmm. I dont even have firefox 3 beta2.. i got an earlier one still.
[06:01] <surgy> Dr_willis: well i tryed to restart klauncher from a terminal and it reports that klauncher is not allowed to be started becuase it has to be ran via kinit and is supposed to start automaticly, which it does it just crashes at random and inconveniant times
[06:02] <corinth> Big difference between beta 1 and beta 2, Dr_willis
[06:02] <corinth> Several new cool features.
[06:02] <surgy> ok guys im gonna log out and back in so i can access this cd, i need some data off of it
[06:03] <surgy> i cant mount it without klaunch, and sense it crashed during the writing process of the cd, lol anyways ill be back
[06:04] <family> hows the support for ics now in feisty fawn?
[06:05] <Dr_willis> corinth,  i think i got B2 on my windows box. But i normally stick with the older one.. since all my plugins i like are not ported yet. :(
[06:05] <family> (internet connection sharing) i would love to hook my xbox up
[06:05] <corinth> Dr_willis: What plugins do you use that you don't want to lose for the moment?
[06:05] <surgy> ok im back
[06:05] <surgy> klauncher started
[06:05] <Dr_willis> corinth,  i got a google thing that syncs all my pcs/bookmarks mainly. :)
[06:06] <Dr_willis> corinth,  i imagine it will get updated soon.
[06:06] <corinth> Dr_willis: Ah, browser sync. Foxmarks does the same thing, and it will be updated very soon ^_^
[06:06] <surgy> Dr_willis: but i try to open my cd, and it is mounted properly, but it says: "unable to create io-slave, Klauncher says: unknown protocol"
[06:07] <Dr_willis> surgy,  if its mounted. (check mount command) just point your file manager at /media/cdrom :)
[06:08] <Dr_willis> or was it /media/cdrom0
[06:08] <family> any input on ics?
[06:08] <surgy> Dr_willis: yeah and when it tries to open the cd to display its contents it gives the before mentioned error
[06:08] <corinth> Does anyone know if Songbird is stable enough yet to use on a regular basis?
[06:09] <Dr_willis> family,  there used to be a large  'ip-masquerading howto' that showed how to share the network conenction with  a linux box. But there may be more gui-friendly way to do it now a days.
[06:09] <Dr_willis> surgy,  try the shell?
[06:09] <family> and that way would be?
[06:09] <surgy> Dr_willis: whats the defualt mount point of my cd rom?
[06:10] <marx2k> heres a weird KDE question. I have a bunch of samba/cifs sharepoints from a remote server mounted.. along with my always-mounted 500G usb hard drive. They are also automounted from fstab.  But they only show up on the desktop when I mount another USB hard drive.  Why would that happen?
[06:10] <corinth> marx2k: I have the same problem.
[06:10] <Dr_willis> surgy,  if its mounted. ( /media/cdrom :)
[06:10] <marx2k> corinth: have you looked for help before in regards to that?
[06:11] <surgy> Dr_willis: i can see the contents of the cd in the shell, that means dolphin is the devil right?
[06:11] <Dr_willis> I use songbird all the time. No hassles.
[06:11] <Dr_willis> Well Dolphin is... well.. i wont go there.
[06:11] <Dr_willis> surgy,  you point dolphin to /media/cdrom and it still messes up? Thats odd..
[06:11] <lasca1> dr_willis: what do you know about mad-wifi?
[06:11] <Dr_willis> try konqueror ?
[06:12] <surgy> Dr_willis: well im clicking on the cdrom icon that pops up on my desktop when a cd is mounted
[06:12] <family> be back in a minute
[06:12] <Dr_willis> lasca1,  I know to stay away from wireless.. :)
[06:12]  * lasca1 chuckles
[06:12] <Dr_willis> surgy,  DONT click.. enter the 'address/path' of /media/cdrom0
[06:12] <Dr_willis> or /media/cdrom
[06:12] <surgy> i dont even have konq installed
[06:12]  * Dr_willis screams you Kids with all your Klicking!
[06:12] <surgy> Dr_willis: how do you even do that in dolphin? man i miss konq
[06:13] <marx2k> so use konq
[06:13] <Dr_willis> surgy,  no idea. i dont use dolphin
[06:13] <surgy> Dr_willis: i figured out how to do it but i get the same error
[06:14] <Dr_willis> its weird that its complaining about a simple mountpoint.
[06:14] <acme64> \o/
[06:14] <surgy> can i "sudo apt-get remove dolphin" and then "sudo apt-get install konqueror" to get things back how they should be?
[06:14] <Dr_willis> Install 'mc' use it for a file manager in the shell.. copy stuff over.. then eat the dolphin. :)
[06:14] <Dr_willis> no need to be so drastik
[06:14] <Dr_willis> !dolphin
[06:14] <ubotu> Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[06:14] <marx2k> why not just use konq as your default file browser?
[06:15] <surgy> Dr_willis: but my distro didnt even come with konq installed, i need to get it from the repos right?
[06:16] <marx2k> it should have
[06:16] <acme64> ok wth
[06:16] <ForgeAus> konq or krusader :) its all good
[06:16] <acme64> the os is outputting sound fine
[06:16] <acme64> amarok wont
[06:16] <Dr_willis> surgy,  what are you running?
[06:16] <surgy> kubuntu 7.10
[06:17] <Dr_willis> That has Konquer included..
[06:17] <marx2k> that comes with konq
[06:17] <surgy> im not seeing it in the kde menu
[06:17] <marx2k> konq is the default web browser on that
[06:17] <surgy> got it
[06:17] <Dr_willis> never noticed :) i always use the places panel tool.
[06:17] <ForgeAus> marx its actually called konqueror
[06:18] <corinth> I wonder if konqueror is abbreviated konq because no one knows how to spell it... >_>
[06:18] <ForgeAus> konq or konqi is for short :)
[06:18] <marx2k> yep
[06:18] <marx2k> I didnt want to type that out
[06:18] <ForgeAus> corinth apparently some people know how to spell it
[06:18] <surgy> Dr_willis: guess what? it wont open the cdrom with konq either
[06:18] <ForgeAus> abbreviations are handier tho
[06:18] <corinth> ForgeAus: :-P
[06:18] <ForgeAus> they save on typing and save on typos :)
[06:18] <marx2k> I have mental alias file
[06:19] <ForgeAus> I'm one person that does make typos even on words I know how to spell
[06:19] <marx2k> Otherwise I'd be typing K Desktop Environment 4.0 Sucks instead of KDE4 sucks :)
[06:19] <Dr_willis> surgy,  reboot! :)
[06:19] <acme64> you know i tihnk i like kde3 better
[06:19] <ForgeAus> KDE4 != KDE 4.0?
[06:19] <Dr_willis> surgy,  or use the shell to copy the stuff over.
[06:19] <ForgeAus> me too acme, sofar but its early days yet
[06:19] <marx2k> acme: You know, I DO like kde3 better... so far
[06:20] <acme64> i dont like the start menu
[06:20] <surgy> Dr_willis: lol my first day learning kubuntu you told me that "reboot" is the worst word to use in linux
[06:20] <Dr_willis> I just removed the kde4 stuff for now.
[06:20] <acme64> the special effects are nice but rather minor
[06:20] <Dr_willis> surgy,  well some times you need to use a hammer. :)
[06:20] <acme64> and buggy
[06:20] <marx2k> I dont like the start menu either
[06:20] <marx2k> and yeah, its real buggy
[06:20] <acme64> cant change it back can ya?
[06:20] <ForgeAus> like I said its early days yet
[06:20] <marx2k> kdesu doesnt recognize my password so I cant use any graphical apps as root
[06:20] <acme64> better yet
[06:20] <acme64> can i get the oxygen theme on kde3?
[06:20] <surgy> ok later guys
[06:21] <ForgeAus> marx use kdesudo
[06:21] <ForgeAus> (if you have it)
[06:21] <Dr_willis> The panel in kde4 is  just another widget/plasmoid i think.  so it will be tweakable some time.. :)
[06:21] <marx2k> ForgeAus: Whats the difference?
[06:21] <Dr_willis> I think.
[06:21] <acme64> i dont the widgets
[06:21] <acme64> got this big funky border around it
[06:21] <redick> hola
[06:21] <mrtimbo> hi
[06:21] <ForgeAus> marx kdesudo shouldn't be required but for some reason theres a bug in it so kdesu isn't functional  or something so someone told me
[06:21] <Dr_willis> kde4 is all about the plasmaoids.
[06:21] <Dr_willis> for kde4 - use kdesudo
[06:21] <marx2k> ForgeAus: Interesting
[06:22] <Dr_willis> or so i hear. :)
[06:22] <redick> alguien que     hable español
[06:22] <marx2k> Heh thats what I get for editing my own entries in AppLauncher :)
[06:22] <redick> soy nuevo con kubuntu
[06:22] <acme64> dimelo
[06:22] <ForgeAus> Dr Willis was probably he who told me
[06:22] <ForgeAus> It sounds like it may be a temporary measure
[06:22] <NickPresta> !es | redick
[06:22] <ubotu> redick: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[06:22] <Dr_willis> ForgeAus,  and it was some  op in here that told me. :)
[06:23] <mrtimbo> i installed kubuntu on my dads laptop a few months ago and he just told me thatafter grub  it wont boot unless he holds alt+f1
[06:23] <redick> ke belleza si yo kiero estar aki
[06:23] <Dr_willis> some wrapper that worked around some bugs with kdesu.  or so i was told.
[06:23] <acme64> well ther eu go
[06:23] <ForgeAus> but who am I to posit that? I don't know for sure don't akte my word on anything... I just like to speculate :)
[06:23] <mrtimbo> what do i do
[06:23] <acme64> lol@redick
[06:23] <NickPresta> !english | redick
[06:23] <ubotu> redick: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[06:23] <marx2k> mvtimbo: That sounds a little odd.. At what point does he have to hold alt+f1?
[06:23] <acme64> thats command is rather useless
[06:23] <redick> hola
[06:23] <redick> acme64
[06:23] <NickPresta> !es | redick
[06:23] <ubotu> redick: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[06:23] <mrtimbo> about where it shows the status bar i guess
[06:23] <Dr_willis> alt-f1? Hmm ive seen some laptops that default to the monitor out and not the lcd out.
[06:23] <mrtimbo> and if he doesnt then it wont boot
[06:24] <marx2k> mvtimbo: Oh... but does he get to an X session otr just to terminal?
[06:24] <Dr_willis> sure hes not hitting the special laptop function keys and f1?
[06:24] <mrtimbo> he doesnt get anything
[06:24] <marx2k> Sounds like he's going into TTY1
[06:24] <acme64> how do i make the text in konversation bigger?
[06:24] <Dr_willis> I would disable the splash, and framebuffers for a start. I guess. (i always say that) :)
[06:24] <mrtimbo> the hard drive led does nothing and the screen stays blank
[06:24] <ForgeAus> what happens if you have a disfunctional monitor on a laptop and slice the cable between the keyboard and screen?
[06:25] <marx2k> Acme: Configure/Interface/Fonts
[06:25] <Dr_willis> well night all.
[06:25] <ForgeAus> (using an external vga of course)
[06:25] <acme64> OOOH YEA
[06:25] <mrtimbo> ill check it out tomorrow, i just thought i would ask before i started working on it
[06:25] <acme64> thats the stuff lol
[06:25] <ForgeAus> lol acme
[06:26] <marx2k> mrtimbo:  sounds like his X server is not functional. youll need to check out the logs that X drops (/var/log/Xorg.0.log)
[06:26] <mrtimbo> ok
[06:26] <marx2k> probably a video driver issue
[06:26] <ForgeAus> how different is the /etc dir on an install to the /etc dir on a liveCD?
[06:26] <marx2k> you can probably diagnose by doing "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE" and it should tell you all the errors it encountered
[06:27] <acme64> one more question
[06:27] <acme64> lightscribe app? we have any
[06:27] <redick> español
[06:28] <redick> naaaadie español
[06:28] <marx2k> acme: for CD labeling?
[06:29] <redick> alguien ke hable spain
[06:29] <acme64> yes
[06:29] <acme64> redick, escriba /join #kubuntu-es
[06:30] <marx2k> acme: have you checked to see if k3b does it?
[06:30] <acme64> k3b? whats that
[06:30] <redick> gracias
[06:30] <marx2k> k3b is the Nero of KDE :)
[06:30] <acme64> ic
[06:30] <marx2k> sudo aptitude install k3b
[06:30] <marx2k> !k3b
[06:30] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[06:31] <acme64> dont think it does
[06:31] <acme64> i dont see anything
[06:31] <marx2k> interesting...
[06:32] <trophyhead> hey all : )
[06:32] <marx2k> acme64: http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadSection/linux/index.aspx
[06:33] <trophyhead> <---drops a pin  /   tink!...echo...echo........echo..........
[06:35] <ForgeAus> hehe
[06:35]  * ForgeAus echos that sentiment
[06:35] <ForgeAus> isn't k3b built into kubuntu? no need to install it
[06:36] <trophyhead> my question if any are awake in here : )    when I installed a game it said it was installing 5 programs, then when I uninstalled it only says it's removing 1, so does that mean 4 thing are just floating around useless & taking up my precious MB's  : )
[06:36] <marx2k> ForgetAus: Maybe. I am not sure. Its a pretty large program though so maybe to save on space, it was not included? I have no idea
[06:36] <marx2k> trophy: through what method did you install it?
[06:37] <ForgeAus> actually you can get an app from lightscribe themselves, I think theres a *nix vers... can't quite remember
[06:37] <NickPresta> trophyhead, sudo apt-get autoremove
[06:37] <ForgeAus> I don't know if its built into k3b tho
[06:37] <acme64> what do i do with a deb file?
[06:37] <NickPresta> acme64, sudo dpkg -i DEBFILE.deb
[06:37] <acme64> ty
[06:37] <trophyhead> k nick ill try that thx : )
[06:37] <ForgeAus> I don't think nero has a *nix vers of its lightscribe addon
[06:39] <marx2k> !deb
[06:39] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu.  Konqueror keeps crashing when I hit F5 to refresh
[06:40] <marx2k> grrr
[06:40] <ForgeAus> (too much work to install into kubuntu?)
[06:41] <ForgeAus> one way to fix that marx
[06:41] <ForgeAus> don't use f5 :)
[06:41] <marx2k> hahah
[06:41] <marx2k> yeah...
[06:41] <marx2k> ugh
[06:41] <marx2k> Ok.. what I dont get is why Yuakauke is  not installed by default in KDE
[06:41] <marx2k> its the most useful app out there
[06:42] <marx2k> Yakuake I mean
[06:42] <NickPresta> marx2k, sometimes. I used to use it on my laptop that could only do 1024x768. On larger resolutions, I find it easier to just have a Konsole open in the background all the time
[06:42] <ForgeAus> what is it?
[06:43] <NickPresta> ForgeAus, it is a quake style konsole drop down
[06:43] <marx2k> ForgeAus: dropdown terminal on keypress (F12 as default)
[06:43] <acme64> http://www.lacie.com/us/products/product.htm?pid=10803
[06:43] <NickPresta> !info yakuake
[06:43] <ubotu> yakuake: a Quake-style terminal emulator based on KDE Konsole technology. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 167 kB, installed size 1048 kB
[06:43] <acme64> lightscribe labler
[06:43] <marx2k> NickPresta: Im so used to Yakuake now, I feel odd when I hit F12 and nothign happens
[06:43] <ForgeAus> yup acme that looks like the one
[06:44] <acme64> ok now what do i do with an rpm file
[06:44] <NickPresta> marx2k, I felt like that for a while too, after I stopped using it.
[06:44] <acme64> whoa wtf
[06:44] <acme64> i just moved my entire desktop
[06:45] <marx2k> acme: delete it.. you CAN install rpm files but it's a hassle.. rpm files are for other distributions (redhat)
[06:45] <marx2k> !alien
[06:45] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[06:45] <ForgeAus> I don't get it it just looks like a skinnable terminal window to me
[06:45] <acme64> well thats the only download on the page
[06:45] <marx2k> bogus
[06:45] <marx2k> Forge: You talking about Yakuake?
[06:45] <NickPresta> it's suggested that you don't install RPM archives (via alien). I would imagine it safer to use checkinstall to create a deb...
[06:45] <ForgeAus> yeah marx
[06:45] <NickPresta> !checkinstall
[06:45] <ubotu> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[06:45] <marx2k> ForgeAus: The beauty is the dropdown functionality. F12, you got a terminal... F12 again, it crawls back off screen...
[06:46] <marx2k> but the shell remains open
[06:46] <ForgeAus> so what I can always minimize a window in kde anyway
[06:46] <marx2k> I usually run htop in a yakuake terminal window ... verrrry convenient
[06:46] <marx2k> Forge: yeah but then you have to hunt for it when you want to unmin it
[06:46] <ForgeAus> hunt? well I guess you have a million things in your taskbar
[06:47] <marx2k> ForgeAus: heh.. I guess apps are only as useful as the people who are using them find them :)
[06:47] <ForgeAus> note if you use konsole you only need 1 terminal window on the taskbar anyway if you want more they're tabbed inside it
[06:47] <marx2k> Same with Yakuake
[06:47] <ForgeAus> of course they are
[06:47] <marx2k> tabbed
[06:48] <ForgeAus> I'm not saying yakuake sux I just don't see that I need it
[06:48] <marx2k> Oh.. yeah I understand. Thats why Im saying theyre only useful as you deem them to be
[06:49] <NickPresta> goodnight all. Time for me to sleep.
[06:51] <eatThisAndDie> guys, why is kubuntu using dolphin anyway? Can i remove it and default to konqueror
[06:52] <Daisuke_Ido> !dolphin
[06:52] <ubotu> Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[06:52] <acme64> hmm, not sure how this checkinstall works
[06:53] <ForgeAus> they're using Dolphin in order to let Konqueror focus on being a web browser and to have a purpose-built file manager (
[06:54] <ForgeAus> rather than focusing on the integration konqi has
[06:54] <acme64> firefox > knoquror
[06:54] <acme64> konquror
[06:55] <ForgeAus> acme therefore firefox + dolphin means no need for konqi
[06:55] <redick> a question
[06:55] <ForgeAus> redick don't ask to ask, just ask
[06:56] <redick> if i cancel the download actualization
[06:56] <redick> que pasaria
[06:56] <ForgeAus> um I don't speak that language
[06:57] <redick> the sistem is damage?
[06:57] <ForgeAus> the system shouldn't be damaged from quitting a download no
[06:58] <acme64> converting the package to deb worked :p
[06:58] <ForgeAus> converting what package?
[06:58] <acme64> the rpm
[06:58] <ForgeAus> you didn't alien an rpm did you?
[06:59] <ForgeAus> oooh.....
[06:59] <acme64> yes i did
[06:59] <ForgeAus> good luck
[06:59] <acme64> im so bad
[06:59] <acme64> lol
[06:59] <ForgeAus> brave man
[06:59] <acme64> alien then dpkg
[06:59] <acme64> works fine
[06:59] <ForgeAus> dpeends on the rpm
[06:59] <jussi01> !wfm
[06:59] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[06:59] <ForgeAus> also many binary (not source) slackware packages work fine in kubuntu
[07:00] <ForgeAus> but I odn't recommend it
[07:00] <acme64> well not much of an option in this case
[07:00] <ForgeAus> yes well some things are only available as certain package types
[07:00] <acme64> it was either this lacie app or the simple labler..which sux bawlz
[07:01] <eatThisAndDie> anyone know how to set the icon size in the system tray?
[07:01] <ForgeAus> lol I like how the kde4 page says in the bugs section no bugs currently known :)
[07:01] <ForgeAus> hehe on this page: http://www.kde.org/info/4.0.php
[07:01] <jussi01> ForgeAus: hehe
[07:02] <acme64> aww man, i dont have an image editor...bs
[07:02] <ForgeAus> then get one
[07:02] <eatThisAndDie> acme:kolourpaint
[07:03] <eatThisAndDie> simple and easy, basically like MS Paint
[07:03] <acme64> nope
[07:03] <eatThisAndDie> Gimp?
[07:03] <acme64> i got this open office thing
[07:03] <ForgeAus> hehe kde4 live cd for suse 11
[07:06] <acme64> packages i install in kde4
[07:06] <acme64> are they there in kde3
[07:08] <redick> I USE NEROLINUX IS GOOD OR BAD
[07:08] <ForgeAus> ok but not as good as k3b
[07:08] <redick> WHY
[07:09] <ForgeAus> nless it has been recently upgraded a heck of a lot
[07:09] <redick> SO I CHANGE TO K3B
[07:09] <ForgeAus> because k3b is a current project that is being developed and enhanced, nerolinux is old and pretty much stale...  not that its not usable... just that its not as useful
[07:10] <ForgeAus> I recommend that yes, and stop using so many caps
[07:10] <corinth> redick: No need to yell, my friend.
[07:13]  * corinth hears crickets chirping.
[07:13] <acme64> somehow i dragged my desktop around
[07:14] <acme64> now i got a few icons cut off on top
[07:14] <corinth> acme64: Your desktop, or the display on your monitor?
[07:14] <acme64> desktop
[07:14] <acme64> like the wallpaper
[07:15] <corinth> Do you have an auto button on your monitor acme64?
[07:17] <ForgeAus> you can always change your screen res or drag and drop the icons back
[07:18] <acme64> a whay
[07:19] <acme64> what
[07:19] <acme64> i ddint change the res
[07:19] <acme64> but the wallpaper has this white border around the bottom now
[07:19] <ForgeAus> an auto-adjust button .. most LCD monitors have that ability
[07:19] <redick> KUBUNTU AND ROCK THE BEST OF WORLD
[07:20] <ForgeAus> yes redick we all know Kubuntu is good :)
[07:22] <Zealot87> I have a major problem
[07:22] <jussi01> !ask | Zealot87
[07:22] <ubotu> Zealot87: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[07:22] <Zealot87> im just a little shocked
[07:22] <corinth> Spit it out. :P
[07:23] <Zealot87> i wanted to project a movie with an old projector that i have.  i believe the res. is 640x480
[07:23] <Zealot87> i switched on a second screen and said that it was a 640x480 secondary
[07:23] <Zealot87> restart didnt change anything
[07:23] <Zealot87> so i set it as the primary screen
[07:23] <Zealot87> and restart
[07:23] <Zealot87> and now it wont boot x
[07:23] <Zealot87> i cant get anything running because the x server isnt running
[07:24] <Zealot87> i dont know how to fix the problem and then run x server!
[07:24] <Zealot87> i am searching for a needle in a haystack right now
[07:24] <acme64> the screen isn't off
[07:24] <acme64> the taskbar hasnt movied
[07:24] <acme64> its just the wallpaper and the widgets on it
[07:24] <Zealot87> i only have a command line
[07:25] <jussi01> Zealot87: run: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:25] <jussi01> acme64: ?
[07:26] <acme64> lol this thing mounted my cd drive to hda
[07:28] <Zealot87> ok now how do i run the x server
[07:28] <jussi01> Zealot87: after doing that you can run: startx
[07:29] <Zealot87> ok kde is running again, thanks alot! now do you know if I can get my screen duped onto this old projector?
[07:29] <acme64> sweet lightscribe is go
[07:29] <jussi01> Zealot87: which card do you have?
[07:30] <Zealot87> an old ati radeon 9200
[07:30] <Zealot87> it sadly didnt make the cut for the nicer drivers
[07:30] <Makuseru> does anyone know the name of the FireFox plugin that lets it emulate another browser/operating system?
[07:30] <jussi01> Zealot87: yes it did!! (I had one of those until recently, and I like the OS driver much better)
[07:31] <Zealot87> well do you know if i can get it to work with this old projector
[07:31] <Zealot87> its connected through s-video
[07:31] <ForgeAus> resetting now trying out a copy of /etc ... I don't think it will work... but better than not having one
[07:32] <acme64> Makuseru: on the tip of my tounge
[07:32] <kadam> What's the name of the KDE on Windows project?
[07:32] <jussi01> !dualhead
[07:32] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[07:32] <jussi01> Zealot87: also look into (google) xrandr
[07:33] <jussi01> !info xrandr
[07:33] <ubotu> xrandr: X Rotation, Reflection and Resize utility. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.2.2-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 23 kB, installed size 84 kB
[07:33] <jussi01> Zealot87: actually, maybe even: man xrandr
[07:35] <acme64> dont suppose theres linux support for the zune?
[07:35] <Zealot87> how do i use xandr?
[07:35] <jussi01> acme64: nope.
[07:35] <jussi01> Zealot87: type in terminal: man xrandr
[07:36] <Zealot87> jussi01: it says "no manual entry for xandr
[07:37] <vzduch> of course not.. how about typing it correctly? :P
[07:37] <jussi01> Zealot87: xrandr
[07:38] <jussi01> ;)
[07:38] <Zealot87> "command not found" :P
[07:38] <Zealot87> ohhhh
[07:38] <Zealot87> hahahaha
[07:39] <Zealot87> ok it's a manuel
[07:39] <Zealot87> manual*
[07:39] <Zealot87> what do i do with it?
[07:40] <vzduch> read it
[07:40] <jussi01> Zealot87: what do you usually do with a manual ;)
[07:40] <acme64> meta+control+s
[07:40] <acme64> wtf is meta
[07:41] <Zealot87> ugh
[07:44] <acme64> lightscribe is alot faster in linux then on windows
[07:44] <acme64> 2x id say
[07:45] <corinth> anyone know where the opensuse irc channels are hosted? What network?
[07:46] <jussi01> Zealot87: you need a hand? ;) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=581947
[07:46] <vzduch> corinth: /j #suse
[07:47] <jussi01> acme64: winkey?
[07:49] <spiroo> How do I install kde4 inside kubuntu?
[07:50] <jussi01> !kde4 | spiroo
[07:50] <ubotu> spiroo: KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[07:51] <acme64> i sen a video where you hold something and with the mouse u can drag the desktop around like  a cube, and each side is another virtual desktop
[07:51] <acme64> how can i do that
[07:53] <jussi01> !compiz | acme64
[07:53] <ubotu> acme64: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[07:53] <jussi01> acme64: you on kde 3.5 or kde4 ?
[07:53] <acme64> 4
[07:54] <acme64> sweet lightscribe works perfect
[07:55] <acme64> brb
[07:55] <fizzz> anybody up ?
[07:55] <jussi01> fizzz: YEP
[07:56] <Lynoure> fizzz: you need help with something?
[07:56] <fizzz> just installed linux mce and its giveing me some orbiter failed to setup transparency any ideas ??
[07:56] <jussi01> fizzz: we dont support linux mce here
[07:56] <jussi01> !variant | fizzz
[07:56] <ubotu> fizzz: The following are some examples of Ubuntu derived distributions that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes, please consult their websites for more information: Linux Mint, LinuxMCE, Ubuntu Ultimate.
[07:57] <fizzz> any idea if they have a chat room like this ?
[07:57]  * Ange|us morning
[07:57] <jussi01> fizzz: more than likely they do, but their website should say...
[07:57] <fizzz> i been trying to install my nvidea driver for linux not haveing much luck with that
[07:59] <jussi01> fizzz: I dont know what linux mce has, but on kubuntu it is a relatively simple proceedure.
[07:59] <romunov> hum, kde4 isnt' that compatible with its previous version
[08:00] <romunov> if you rename a menu, it doesnt recognize its icon
[08:00] <acme64> ok wtf im gettin no audio
[08:00] <romunov> and the wrap around the desktop icons is jumping around
[08:00] <acme64> i think this thing defaulted to my onboard soundcard
[08:00] <acme64> instead of my audigy
[08:00] <jussi01> romunov: kde4 is in #kubuntu-kde4 ;)
[08:03] <kadam> Does anyone know what the qt4-designer package contains?
[08:04] <stdin> kadam: "dpkg -L qt4-designer" too see, or look on http://packages.ubuntu.com
[08:04] <romunov> jussi01: i'm just saying.. not trying to resolve anything :>
[08:04] <emilsedgh> kalorin: it containt the Qt designer i think
[08:04] <emilsedgh> oh
[08:04] <emilsedgh> kadam: ^
[08:05] <kadam> emilsedgh: Hehheh, well, I knew that much 8)  Does anyone know what I need to start developing for KDE4?
[08:05] <kadam> stdin: ty
[08:06] <stdin> kadam: a good start is the "kde4-devel" package ;)
[08:06] <fizzz> hey if my driver file is a .run file what should i do with it ?
[08:06] <jussi01> fizzz: ./filename.run
[08:06] <jussi01> in terminal
[08:06] <stdin> fizzz: if you have some ubuntu variant install the package
[08:06] <kadam> stdin: Haha, alright, thanks 8)
[08:07] <jussi01> morning stdin :)
[08:07] <fizzz> but i thought u had to install kubuntu first
[08:07] <stdin> jussi01: yes, it is :p
[08:07] <stdin> fizzz: try it and see
[08:07] <stdin> better than installing the .run when you don't know what the drawbacks are
[08:08] <stdin> (and there are a few)
[08:08] <fizzz> well i did ysterday and it said no go no worky
[08:08] <stdin> have you tried the -legacy or -new packages too?
[08:09] <fizzz> well it was a ubuntu dvd i burnt a few weeks ago
[08:15] <flamesage> Hello.
[08:15] <flamesage> hello.
[08:15] <flamesage> Anyone alive in here?
[08:15] <jussi01> I am...
[08:15] <flamesage> Have you by any chance tried Alpha 3 for Ubuntu Hardy yet?
[08:16] <jussi01> fizzz: you can try /join #linuxmce ... there are a few people there
[08:16] <jussi01> flamesage: nope, but you may get better help in #ubuntu+1
[08:17] <jussi01> although, now is a kinda quiet time...
[08:17] <flamesage> yeah..
[08:17] <flamesage> That's why I kind of came here.. lol
[08:17] <flamesage> It's 3 am
[08:17] <flamesage> I really need to sleep :(
[08:17] <flamesage> *sighs*
[08:17]  * jussi01 kicks flamesage so he can sleep..
[08:18] <flamesage> Hmm
[08:18] <flamesage> I love Kubuntu but..
[08:18] <flamesage> I just feel "Ubuntu" is more offical..
[08:18] <flamesage> I've reinstalled Ubuntu / Kubuntu like.. 4 times in the same day x_x  I can't make up my mind.  lol
[08:19] <jussi01> flamesage: join me in #ubuntu+1 and we can try sort whatever out if you like...
[08:19] <flamesage> ok
[08:21] <eatThisAndDie> flamesage: isn't it possible to install Ubuntu and then install KDE
[08:21] <girolamo> !italiano
[08:21] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:21] <flamesage> yeah but..
[08:21] <eatThisAndDie> OR install Kubuntu and then install Gnome
[08:21] <flamesage> Then menus get cluttered and I just like one or the other :D
[08:22] <eatThisAndDie> well... the option is to set which programs gets viewed in each
[08:23] <eatThisAndDie> dudes, anyone with any idea why the icons in my systray just so suddenly got bigger?
[08:24] <flamesage> what version / WM are you using?
[08:24] <flamesage> It's called puberty.. lol
[08:24] <eatThisAndDie> ....
[08:24] <eatThisAndDie> 7.10
[08:24] <flamesage> what window manager?
[08:24] <eatThisAndDie> i assume the WM is kWin
[08:24] <eatThisAndDie> how do i check anyway?
[08:24] <flamesage> hmmm dont know
[08:25] <eatThisAndDie> dont know... which WM is defult? or how to change the icon size
[08:25] <jussi01> eatThisAndDie: ctrl + esc see if kwin is running
[08:25] <eatThisAndDie> yeah it is
[08:25] <eatThisAndDie> jussi01:so now i know which WM... what now?
[08:26] <eatThisAndDie> the config file i know is in ~/.kde/share/config
[08:26] <jussi01> eatThisAndDie: what did you do to cause it/just beore it happened?
[08:27] <eatThisAndDie> i think it was rite after i set some icons to be not visible
[08:27] <eatThisAndDie> as in you gotta click the arrow to view it.
[08:27] <indystorm> hi
[08:27] <indystorm> how do I change the resolution on this thing?
[08:27] <acme64> thanks for all the help guys im goin to bed
[08:27] <jussi01> !fixresolution
[08:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixresolution - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:28] <jussi01> !fixvideoresolution
[08:28] <eatThisAndDie> indystorm: system settings > monitor and resolution
[08:28]  * jussi01 waits...
[08:28] <eatThisAndDie> sorry.. monitor and display
[08:29] <jussi01> !fixvideoresolution
[08:29] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:29]  * eatThisAndDie wonders if indystorm is still there..
[08:31] <eatThisAndDie> jussi01: any ideas?
[08:31] <eatThisAndDie> i mean.. the icons in the panel can be scaled, what about in the system tray?
[08:32] <jussi01> eatThisAndDie: nope, I thought they were scaled to the panel size
[08:32] <jussi01> there is an option to put them on 2 lines iirc...
[08:33] <eatThisAndDie> jussi01: YES that will be great too. If i could find it....
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[08:36]  * ActionParsnip waves
[08:44] <family> hey guys how do i set up internet connection sharing on kubuntu?
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> family, let me google :)
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> family, you not got a router?
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> family,heres a good guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370 but i'd suggest getting a router, its easier and provides extra security
[08:49] <family> i have a router but its down stairs
[08:49] <family> and im up stairs and im going to give my xbox wireless connection
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> family, is it not wireless?
[08:51] <family> action no
[08:51] <family> my xbox connects to my computer through a crossover cable
[08:51] <family> i have a wireless card on this computer
[08:52] <family> so im going to ics my eth0 to wlan so my xbox can get wireless connection
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> family, ok i get what you have got :)
[08:52] <family> :)
[08:52] <family> so so nice lol and my box is nice and modded
[08:52] <family> okay so now im off to do some reading
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> family, the walkthrough seems ok enogh, its fairly well documented
[08:53] <family> cool
[08:53] <family> :) thanks so much
[08:54] <fizzz_> can somebody help me with my video driver install for kubuntu ??
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> fizzz, what graphics card do you have
[08:55] <fizzz_> geforece 8400 gs
[08:55] <fizzz_> i got to the install screen and it says i need to be root to install
[08:56] <fizzz_> ERROR: nvidia-installer must be run as root
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> fizzz, run the app with sudo
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> fizzz, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[08:56] <roel_> anyone knows howto install kdepim-kde4??? there seems to be a problem with libgif4 libungif4g
[08:57] <fizzz_> so sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-169.07-pkg1
[08:57] <fizzz_> ??
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> fizzz, yes if you have the hing from nvidia
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> fizzz, the one in the repos is usually ok
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> fizzz, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:58] <fizzz_>  You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before
[08:58] <fizzz_>          installing.
[08:59] <roel_> @fizz_, so exit X
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> fizzz, yeah you need to swich down to command line to run it
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> fizzz, i'd use the driver in the repos. its easier to install by loads
[09:01] <fizzz_> repos  ??
[09:01] <roel_> second try: anyone knows howto install kdepim-kde4??? there seems to be a problem with libgif4 libungif4g
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> fizzz, repositories, where you download the thing from the internet
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> roel_, no idea man, try www.google.com
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> !pim
[09:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pim - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> !kdepim
[09:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdepim - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:02] <roel_> @actionparsnip tried google extensively already
[09:02] <roel_> @ubotu will do
[09:03] <roel_> thx anyway
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> fizzz, if you follow that link i posted for you, you should be ok
[09:03] <jussi01> roel_: its currently broken afaik. and fyi kde4 support is in #kubuntu-kde4 :)
[09:04] <roel_> ah thx
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> its funny when people talk to the bot :D
[09:11] <jussi01> !thanks | ActionParsnip
[09:12] <ubotu> ActionParsnip: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[09:12] <jussi01> and it talks to you :P
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> !freemoney | ActionParsnip
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> bah ;
[09:13] <Sbucatone> where is documentation channel
[09:13] <dappermuis> anyone know how to get alt+tab to work in kde 4.0.0
[09:14] <dappermuis> Sbucatone: ubunut-doc
[09:14] <dappermuis> Sbucatone: #ubuntu-doc
[09:14] <Sbucatone> thank
[09:14] <dappermuis> np
[09:14] <nordseebaer> guten morgen
[09:15] <Sbucatone> dappermuis: it seems kd4 eats lesss resorces ? right or not ?
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> Sbucatone, apparently so (I've seen someone quote 60%)
[09:16] <dappermuis> Sbucatone: Hmmm...it appears so. I only installed it last night, and im using all the window decorations, and its running really smooth
[09:33] <ZeBarbu> hello world. Just a little question: is hardy in a 'useable' state right now?
[09:33] <llutz> it's alpha for testers
[09:34] <ZeBarbu> yes, I know
[09:34] <ZeBarbu> but is it useable (to test ;) )
[09:34] <ZeBarbu> ?
[09:34] <ZeBarbu> some alpha are completly broken, and some other are quite functionnal.
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> ZeBarbu, why do you want it?
[09:36] <stdin> ZeBarbu: if you don't know how to use the more advanced features of apt/dpkg, then do not even think about installing hardy
[09:37] <ZeBarbu> hey, guys, I KNOW all that, I just ask if the current state is useable or completly broken
[09:37] <stdin> then as in the right place, #ubuntu+1
[09:38] <ZeBarbu> ok, that's the answer I needed ;)
[09:38] <ZeBarbu> thanks
[09:38] <stdin> and don't forget to  read the topic there
[09:39] <ZeBarbu> stdin: ok, the topic is very nice ;)
[09:41] <jack_> is there any way to stop konqueror/dolphin choking hard and displaying wrong values in directories with huge amounts of files?
[09:42] <mickael_> bonjour
[09:42] <blizzzek> hi
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[10:34] <sigma_1234> how do you install a nfs client?
[10:34] <jussi01> !ns
[10:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ns - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:34] <jussi01> !nfs
[10:34] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[10:35] <jussi01> cant type today... sigh
[10:37] <mohi> hi guyz... :)
[10:37] <ganesh> sup?
[10:37] <mohi> I have problem with pakage manager! It says: Kpackage requires the SMART Package Manager to be installed in order to function
[10:37] <mohi> what should I do?
[10:38] <mohi> (kubuntu kde4)
[10:38] <ganesh> why use KPackage?
[10:38] <ganesh> use Adept
[10:38] <noiesmo> turned on my pc this morning and get this when trying to boot it repeats it self then just hangs (162.526738)ata.01 : cmd c8/00 : 08:00 : 2D :C9/00 : 00:00 : 00:00/F4 /TAG 0 cd3 0x0 data 4096 in
[10:38] <ganesh> but mohi
[10:38] <ganesh> how did you get KDE4?
[10:38] <jussi01> mohi: kde4 -> #kubuntu-kde4 :)
[10:42] <dappermuis> mohi: also see the latest announcement on the kubuntu website
[10:52] <paolita> hello
[10:57] <Sajes> How do I change the layout scheme? There's a thing that popped up saying "KDE, Unix, Windows," etc. I accidentally chose the wrong one.
[10:59] <_luke_> Sajes: try running "kpersonalizer" - that is the app which pops up the first time you login
[10:59] <Sajes> _luke_: thanks.
[11:04] <xgoonerx> hello ... i need a help ...
[11:05] <xgoonerx> i'm trying to  instal Kubuntu 7.10 on my secondary slave drive
[11:05] <xgoonerx> i have WinXP on my privary drive
[11:05] <xgoonerx> after installing and everything ... i can't boot
[11:05] <xgoonerx> it stucks on Grub
[11:06] <jussi01> xgoonerx: what is the error?
[11:06] <xgoonerx> i tried changing the booting priority by changing the drive order... still it wont boot... MBR error 1 and continously
[11:06] <xgoonerx> jussi : i'm a nubie ... i dont know anything about ubuntu ..this is my first time installing
[11:06] <xgoonerx> i made EXT3 and SWAP partition on my secondary drive
[11:07] <xgoonerx> it stucks on Grun loading ..please wait ... but my HDD doesnt blink ..
[11:07] <xgoonerx> it wont boot to ubuntu or winxp ...
[11:07] <jussi01> xgoonerx: so it doesnt give you a grub error at all?
[11:07] <xgoonerx> no
[11:08] <jussi01> xgoonerx: Im going to get the bot to give you a link to reinstalling grub, go and ollow the instructions there
[11:08] <xgoonerx> i tried searching on google... but still i cant find the solution for my problem
[11:08] <jussi01> !grub
[11:08] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:08] <xgoonerx> i have reisntalled grub
[11:08] <xgoonerx> i tried the sudo grub thingy
[11:09] <xgoonerx> i did this already
[11:09] <Odd-rationale> How do I switch between network connections?
[11:09] <xgoonerx> i did this after fixing my MBR from the winxp boot cd
[11:09] <xgoonerx> i wonder... is it because i didnt installed ubuntu on the primary drive ?
[11:10] <jussi01> xgoonerx: Im not really sure, Im sorry.
[11:10] <xgoonerx> i tried changing the hdd jumper aswell... i made my winxp drive to SLAVE .... and put the ubuntu as a master drive ...but still the same error
[11:11] <xgoonerx> any help will be appreciated ... i really want to use kubuntu now
[11:11] <xgoonerx> thx for your help jussi
[11:11] <Agent_bob> xgoonerx what's the issue/question ?
[11:12] <xgoonerx> agent : i need to install kubuntu on my secondary drive
[11:12] <Agent_bob> Odd-rationale knetworkmanager  maybe ?
[11:12] <Agent_bob> xgoonerx and ?
[11:12] <xgoonerx> i did that already ... but it is stuck on GRUB
[11:12] <Odd-rationale> Agent_bob: I'm looking there. The solution is excaping me...
[11:13] <Odd-rationale> Right now i'm on my neighbor's wireless. I'm trying to switch to my own.
[11:13] <xgoonerx> agent bob : would you be so kind to read my previous chat with jussi up above :) thx
[11:13] <Agent_bob> xgoonerx then the issues is with grub and not with installing ubuntu.    now. is there any number with the startup error ?
[11:13] <xgoonerx> agent : no :( that's the problem ... it just stuck right there
[11:14] <jussi01> Odd-rationale: you should be able to right click on the icon in the tray, then select a network...
[11:14] <xgoonerx> i hate to imagine if it's my hdd which is the problem :(
[11:14] <xgoonerx> agent : is it necessary for me to install kubuntu on my primary drive ? to avoid suck grub errors ?
[11:15] <xgoonerx> such
[11:15] <Agent_bob> no
[11:15] <Odd-rationale> jussi01: That's what I thought. But none are showing up. Perhpas because it is in a manual conf. How do I change?
[11:16] <Agent_bob> xgoonerx it may be necessary to tell grub the bios order of the devices though
[11:16] <xgoonerx> agent : is it my partition ?  i made EXT3 and SWAP on the secondary drive (slave... i set the jumper to master... it wont fix it aswell)
[11:16] <xgoonerx> agent : how can i do that ?  i tried to set the drive priority on bios ...but it wont fix this
[11:17] <xgoonerx> bios order of the device ..... but not on grub
[11:17] <xgoonerx> how can i tell grub ?
[11:19] <paolo_>  Hi. how can I launch an application ad keep it always in evidence (if it's not resized) ?
[11:19] <paolo_> (a gui application)
[11:20] <stdin> "in evidence" ?
[11:21] <paolo_> stdin: sorry for the expression, i dunno how to translate it
[11:21] <Agent_bob> if you change the bios order of the drives you confuse the snot out of grub.   let me succently explain. bios loads when you power on the machine, then it finds it's boot device first floppy, first cdrom, first hdd,  what ever it's setup for.  and starts reading the boot disk.  if it's an hdd the MBR tell bios what file/sector to load.  when using grub that will point to the /boot/grub/stage1*
[11:21] <stdin> paolo_: you can always ask in #kubuntu-it
[11:21] <paolo_> stdin: it means that it must be shown always
[11:22] <sonoftheclayr> paolo_: like always on top?
[11:22] <stdin> paolo_: right-click the title bar -> Advanced -> Always on top
[11:22] <stdin> it may be called more like "keep above others" in other locales
[11:22] <stdin> depends on the translation
[11:23] <paolo_> stdin: perfect but
[11:23] <paolo_> how can i set this when launching?
[11:23] <paolo_> (without setting it manually)
[11:23] <Agent_bob> now if you change the bios addressing of a device then when the MBR loads and looks for the bios addressed file/sector it won't be the stage1* that it's supposed to be.   now that having been said.   go back to the link ubotu sent you and read up on grub a little more.  if you don't see the obvious solution.   boot the linux liveCD and come back here.  i'll do what i can xgoonerx
[11:24] <Agent_bob> !grub
[11:24] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:24] <stdin> paolo_: look in the special application settings
[11:24] <stdin> paolo_: should be in the same "Advanced" menu
[11:25] <xgoonerx> agent : thx alot for your explanations ! i'm at the office right now... i'm on my way home ... i hope i still can see you here later...
[11:25] <xgoonerx> thx everyone ...
[11:25] <xgoonerx> have a great day
[11:25] <Agent_bob> for a while. yes.
[11:25] <xgoonerx> 6:25 PM here
[11:25] <ubuntu_> ok
[11:25] <Agent_bob> and shalom.
[11:26] <ubuntu_> love you
[11:26] <ubuntu_> ehhehe
[11:26] <xgoonerx> maybe i'll be back online around 8
[11:26] <xgoonerx> bye
[11:26] <ubuntu_> my name is mathias
[11:26] <ubuntu_> whats your name
[11:27] <Agent_bob> !ot | ubuntu_
[11:27] <ubotu> ubuntu_: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[11:27] <ubuntu_> tahnks
[11:27] <ubuntu_> thanks
[11:28] <girolamo> !italiano
[11:28] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:30] <paolo_> stdin: thnks
[11:31] <Odd-rationale> How do I set knetworkmanager to not use a manual configuration?
[11:33] <Sajes> Question. I want to make a panel devoted to be like a quicklaunch bar on my middle-left side of the monitor. Whenever I right click it after making it to configure it, it tries to configure my main panel instead of the new one. I'm on gutsy gibbon and kde 3.5
[11:34] <dhq> i have ntfs partiton on my system how do i resize it so as to make space for my ext3
[11:34] <Sajes> dhq: qparted gparted, fdisk or cfdisk.
[11:35] <dhq> Sajes: qtpated errors
[11:35] <Sajes> dhq: if it contains windows on it, be sure to defrag before resizing.
[11:36] <Agent_bob> turn off pagefile and defrag
[11:36] <Agent_bob> you can turn it back on afterwards
[11:37] <Sajes> So anyone got any ideas why it tries to configure the wrong panel?
[11:38] <dhq> how is kde4 anyone tried it
[11:38] <Agent_bob> Sajes don't know your version.   but try selecting the pannel you want to config from within the configurator
[11:40] <Sajes> Agent_bob: there's no option to do that.
[11:40] <Agent_bob> Sajes there was also a bug in kde.  you may have to logout and back in after making the panel befor it will work correctly
[11:40] <Sajes> Agent_bob: thanks, I'll try that.
[11:41] <Agent_bob> Sajes the otpion is on one of the tabs    not all of them.
[11:41] <Sajes> Agent_bob: that worked. Thanks :)
[11:41] <Agent_bob> but it affects all of them.
[11:41] <Agent_bob> welcome.
[11:41] <jussi01> dhq: kde4 -> #kubuntu-kde4 :)
[11:47] <Agent_bob> hmmm this is not right.   if i run startkde all it does is closes my konsole
[11:47] <Agent_bob> LTS that ^
[11:50] <Agent_bob> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d284c1e25
[11:51] <Agent_bob> there's why ^   so i supose that kwin or startkde is coded to not start in a window ?
[11:52] <Agent_bob> and startkde is definitely coded to not start from a console    so how is one supposed to start kde with out using a dm ?
[11:59] <Gidean> Hi all...
[12:00] <Gidean> can't seem to find a clear answer using google: how do I run a .py script from the CL?
[12:00] <funcrush> Location of cursor in konsole is odd. How can I fix it? (you can see that http://cfs5.tistory.com/upload_control/download.blog?fhandle=YmxvZzU3NzA1QGZzNS50aXN0b3J5LmNvbTovYXR0YWNoLzAvMDUwMDAwMDAwMDAwLnBuZw==)
[12:00] <Gidean> Please.
[12:01] <Agent_bob> gibean /path/to/script.py   ?
[12:01] <Agent_bob> or python /path/to/script.py    maybe even.
[12:01] <Gidean> if I'm in the directory, do I have to include the path?
[12:02] <Agent_bob> use   ./
[12:02] <Gidean> Thought it was Python *.py
[12:02] <Gidean> Agent: I did and I got the * is a directory (it isn't)
[12:02] <Agent_bob> lowercase.    unless you have a Python executable in your path.     all things are case sensitive
[12:03] <Gidean> Ahh..indeed. It's late and I may have been using the uppercase...
[12:03] <Gidean> brb
[12:05] <Gidean> LOL...using capital P the whole time.
[12:05] <Gidean> Time to get some sleep...
[12:05] <Gidean> Thanks a bunch, Agent_bob...
[12:05] <Gidean> cheers and g'night....
[12:06] <dhq> Sajes: i just finished defragmenting
[12:06] <dhq> Sajes: now
[12:08] <albatross_> I've made a profile with the help of kiosktool, but now that's stopped working for whatever reason. I need to change the file associations for PDF, since users cant open them from the desktop. How do I go about doing that?
[12:08] <albatross_> Using Kubuntu 7.04
[12:08] <Sajes> dhq: Try resizing it with gparted.
[12:09] <Agent_bob> make sure it's noy mounted
[12:11] <ct529> hi everybody
[12:12] <ct529> I would like to synchornise two directories between 2 computers so that the content of the directories is merged (at file level) every time I click a button
[12:12] <ct529> is that possible on 7.10?
[12:13] <llutz> ct529: use rsync (button made with kommander-script maybe)
[12:14] <shampoo> or a cronjob maybe (no button anymore :D)
[12:16] <shampoo> ct529: for syncronizing i use rsync
[12:17] <ct529> llutz: shampoo thanks. does it need one of the directory to be empty or may I start with 2 full directory and the software opeartes a merge?
[12:17] <Agent_bob> isn't there also some "kitchensync" thingy ?
[12:17] <ct529> Agent_bob: kitchensync?
[12:17] <llutz> ct529: they don't need to be empty
[12:18] <Agent_bob> !info kitchensync
[12:18] <ubotu> kitchensync: Synchronization framework. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.7enterprise20070926-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 328 kB, installed size 1100 kB
[12:18] <Agent_bob> !info ksync
[12:18] <ubotu> Package ksync does not exist in gutsy
[12:18] <Agent_bob> !info ksync dapper
[12:18] <ubotu> ksync: KDE Sync. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 61 kB, installed size 240 kB
[12:19] <Agent_bob> they discontinued that one.
[12:20] <llutz> a rsync gui = grsync, but gtk :((
[12:20] <Agent_bob> don't like gnome tool kit ?
[12:21] <llutz> would i use Kubuntu if i like that much? ;)
[12:21] <Agent_bob> llutz idk many do.
[12:21] <ct529> llutz: is there any kde gui interface?
[12:21] <llutz> ct529: i don't know any
[12:21] <girolamo> !italiano
[12:21] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:21] <mau> hi, i have no sound, is there a wiki page about this? don't want do bother you with all my noob questions
[12:22]  * ct529 installin grsync
[12:22] <llutz> "gnome is ugly!" imho, sry </ot>
[12:22] <ct529> mau: audio card?
[12:22] <bazhang> !sound | mau
[12:22] <ubotu> mau: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[12:23] <funcrush> I can't take a screenshot with "Print Screen" key in KDE4. anyone can help me?
[12:23] <Odd-rationale> When I try to plug in my ext HDD, I get this: hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000. How do I fix this? Thanks!
[12:24] <jussi01> funcrush: kde4 -> #kubuntu-kde4 :)
[12:24] <ct529> llutz: not bad grsync
[12:24] <Odd-rationale> I can mount it from the command line, though
[12:25] <funcrush> jussi01: Thank you :)
[12:25] <mau> !sound
[12:25] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[12:25] <ct529> llutz: what about using a p2p versioning tool like git or mergury?
[12:25] <Agent_bob> llutz just a thought on that though.  just because gnome is ugly, has nothing to do with whether one uses a gtk app or not.   ends can justify the means.
[12:25] <llutz> ct529: i never used, sry
[12:27] <llutz> Agent_bob: i  haven't seen a "nice" gtk-Gui during the last 12 yrs using linux-systems. That's just  _my_ personal opinion
[12:27] <Agent_bob> :)
[12:27] <voonte> Is this (http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/) the guide read to get into packaging in kubuntu?
[12:28] <Odd-rationale> brb
[12:29] <ibou> hi
[12:29] <mau> sound is working now, thx
[12:29] <ibou> how to install flash on konqueror ?
[12:30] <Agent_bob> !contribute | voonte this page is all i know.
[12:30] <ubotu> voonte this page is all i know.: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
[12:30] <Agent_bob> !flash | ibou
[12:30] <ubotu> ibou: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[12:30] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[12:31] <mau> another question: in windows i can configure some actions with clicking in the corner of my touchpad. is this possible with kubuntu?
[12:31] <ibou> thanks
[12:31] <voonte> Agent_bob: thanks, I'll check that page out.
[12:34] <ibou> !Restricted
[12:34] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:37] <jussi01> !touchpad | mau
[12:37] <ubotu> mau: For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[12:38] <chakie_work> is there any news regarding when flash might work again in gutsy?
[12:38] <chakie_work> it's been non-working now for weeks and it gets a little bit annoying
[12:39] <chakie_work> especially the "crash handlers" that konqueror spits at every page that contains flash
[12:41] <dwhite> morning ...
[12:41] <dwhite> I added kde4 to my kubuntu 7.10 machine to test it.  Now I want to remove it and wait for 4.1.  Is there a recommended safe way to remove it and clear the kde4 apps out of my menu?  Is it as easy as apt-get remove kde4?
[12:41] <jussi01> chakie_work: there is a workaround i you really want
[12:41] <jussi01> dwhite: kde4 -> #kubuntu-kde4 :)
[12:41] <chakie_work> jussi01: if i don't totally anal probe my system in the process i'd be happy to try it
[12:42] <dwhite> thanks
[12:42] <g2g591> dwhite: sudo apt-get purge whateverkde4packagesgotpulledin
[12:42] <jussi01> !flash | chakie_work
[12:42] <ubotu> chakie_work: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash