[06:34] <Ironman> So can I install something from a *.bin file?
[06:34] <musicmkr> hmmm
[06:34] <Ironman> or does it have to be *.deb?
[06:34] <TheOneWolf> musicmkr looking up hd now
[06:34] <Xnos> hi... why when  i browse a folder to play music,xmms cant view folders that start with a dot
[06:34] <CuriousCat> sline_crecature, Windows recognizes that the used up space is larger than previous, but i can't see the file. Even tried to show all the hidden files. Nada
[06:34] <sean> I need help getting my DVD-ROM to work with acid rip
[06:35] <TheOneWolf> musicmkr did u ever upgrade the memory?
[06:35] <Xenguy> Xnos: yeah, me too -- I just created a symlink
[06:35] <sean> i already installed libdvdcss2
[06:35] <cerberus_> does anyone know of a working packport for hoary hedghog? mirrormax doesn't seem to be working
[06:35] <musicmkr> no :-p
[06:35] <zuokanyunqi> i want to set char's color to green like "matrix" what shall i do
[06:35] <TheOneWolf> musicmkr so it probably still has just 32 mb ram
[06:35] <ig-shoot-me> repos
[06:36] <Madpilot> cerberus_, mirrormax hasn't worked for months
[06:36] <Xenguy> Xnos: like, ln -s .aMule aMule
[06:36] <Madpilot> !tell cerberus_ about repos
[06:36] <musicmkr> maybe -- can't i still get the server install to work?
[06:36] <zuokanyunqi> _jason, can you help me
[06:36] <cerberus_> cheers Madpilot
[06:36] <Xnos> Xenguy, ok thank you man
[06:36] <Madpilot> cerberus_, why are you still running Hoary? Upgrading to Breezy is fairly easy, assuming you've got broadband
[06:36] <Xenguy> Xnos: yw
[06:36] <TheOneWolf> musicmkr yeah should work ok
[06:37] <cerberus_> I have dial up, I've ordered the cds, just waiting on their arrival
[06:37] <sean> can anyone help me to use my dvdrom for ripping dvds
[06:37] <musicmkr> same error though
[06:37] <zuokanyunqi> Madpilot, can you help me
[06:37] <musicmkr> hence my confusion
[06:37] <sline_crecature> CuriousCat, perhaps it's a problem with the file names?
[06:37] <Madpilot> zuokanyunqi, possibly. With what?
[06:37] <zuokanyunqi> i want to set char's color to green like "matrix" what shall i do
[06:37] <intelikey> ok get a pincle Superslash.    at that point. where it says manually edit the partition table.     hit [alt] +[f2]   [enter]      then type  mount /dev/hda1 /target   and see what it says.  (that assumes ide hdd,   use sda1 if non-ide)    if it says anything about ntfs  you can manually mount the ext#fs partition on /target  and proceed with the install  by stepping past the partitioner.  it will be buggy but can be done.   i
[06:37] <frank23> cerberus_: you need a friend with broadband ;)
[06:37] <intelikey> youre screwed.
[06:37] <CuriousCat> sline_crecature, will check out that possibility in a bit
[06:37] <cerberus_> It would definately help
[06:38] <Madpilot> zuokanyunqi, which characters?
[06:38] <cerberus_> But I'm a uni student, not many of my friends can afford broadband
[06:38] <ig-shoot-me> sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla (when i type that in, i get E: Couldnt find package flashplayer-mozilla
[06:38] <zuokanyunqi> every character under console
[06:38] <TheOneWolf> musicmkr yeah server install is minimal
[06:39] <Xenguy> zuokanyunqi: get a terminal that allows you to configure colours
[06:39] <Superslash> intelikey: just confused the hell out of me. it'llt ell me if the hard drive is IDE right? and if it recognizes my NTFS partition then i'll be able to go on normally right?
[06:39] <musicmkr> maybe it's the cd drive then, though it checks the cd ok
[06:39] <Madpilot> zuokanyunqi, you can change the text colours in gnome-terminal; you can probably do it in console too if you edit .bashrc
[06:39] <zuokanyunqi> Xenguy, not terminal
[06:39] <CuriousCat> sline_crecature, logging off first to check out your suggestions. Will come back to report what happened
[06:39] <CuriousCat> :)
[06:39] <zuokanyunqi> not under X-window
[06:39] <sline_crecature> ok, good luck
[06:39] <CuriousCat> sline_crecature, thanks!
[06:40] <TheOneWolf> musicmkr yeah, i wish i had some boot options in front of me
[06:40] <pab1> looking for help with tvtime
[06:40] <pab1> any1 familiar with it?
[06:40] <TheOneWolf> musicmkr sorry but i got to go for now :(
[06:40] <zuokanyunqi> i want to chage foreground of console
[06:40] <Xenguy> zuokanyunqi: OK now I get it; that is a tall order you have :-)
[06:40] <Madpilot> zuokanyunqi, you'll want to look into .bashrc, I guess. Ask google for some bash tutorials, or about bash prompt editing
[06:40] <musicmkr> no prob, i'll try working on it
[06:40] <Pretto> hey... anybode could say what command removes a folder?
[06:41] <jjs0ah> Prettyo: rm -r <dir>  ... man rm
[06:41] <intelikey> Superslash also a test of less /dev/hda1 (if less is in the install system) will tell you if there is a partition there that can be detected.       fdisk -l /dev/hda  should show partitions  but all these apps that we normally use will be a busybox process call and wont work like normal so ......
[06:41] <Xenguy> Pretto: rm
[06:41] <Pretto> with subfolders?
[06:41] <Xenguy> Pretto: rm -rf
[06:41] <Xenguy> careful
[06:41] <intelikey> able to go on normally right? <--- no
[06:41] <Superslash> intelikey: were going far further than my knowledge of linux. i don't know anything about this stuff
[06:42] <dli__> predius_, better to use a GUI filemanager
[06:42] <zuokanyunqi> is there a command "vidcontrol"
[06:42] <btdown> Hrm..I'm trying to vnc into a machine from the CLI but I need to specify port 80, it doesnt seem to be work with ::80 ....Is there a trick to specify the port # instead of display #?
[06:43] <Xenguy> btdown: some kind of ssh tunnelling might be an option for you too (general idea only :-)
[06:43] <intelikey> Superslash ok.  sorry.   ah if you don't want to loose the windows install.   better wait for better support for your hardware.     sorry i dove in too deep on that.
[06:43] <Superslash> *headdesk!
[06:43] <Superslash> time to try a different distro
[06:43] <sean> is there a website where i can learn to rip cds, acid rip isn't working for some reason?
[06:44] <btdown> xenguy yeah I have use freenx on port 22, but it doesnt work will with persistent sessions... so sometime I like to us vnc when I need to let stuff run...
[06:44] <Xenguy> Superslash: are you coming or going :p
[06:44] <birdfish> Hi guys, I have a question regarding ip_forwarding
[06:44] <Xenguy> btdown: check out x11vnc...
[06:44] <Superslash> xenguy: i dont know, i honestly dont
[06:45] <intelikey> Superslash i like mandrake/mandriva  some don't.  it's got a pretty good installer package and is newb friendly
[06:45] <aszurom> anybody messed with udev rules?
[06:45] <birdfish> when I execute the command "sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward", I get a "permission denied error" :/
[06:45] <birdfish> What is wrong?
[06:45] <Madpilot> sean, ripping in Ubuntu? Audio CD?
[06:45] <Superslash> intelikey: i tried that once before, couldnt download it all the way
[06:45] <Xenguy> btdown: it's a bit much to configure initially, but work well as X tunnelled over ssh
[06:45] <ig-shoot-me> Ok, I put the thing in terminal to get flash plugin for Firefox, and it displayed a lot of text, then it finished and i closed terminal, and lcosed firefox.  I reopened firefox and i still dont have the flash thing
[06:45] <intelikey> Superslash lots of mirrors.
[06:45] <Xenguy> btdown: er, uses vnc too
[06:45] <btdown> xenguy Thanks. I'll check it out..are the docs/instructions decent or can u recommend a tutorial or howto?
[06:46] <intelikey> google  linus distros
[06:46] <sean> Madpilot, its a DVD, i tried to use Acid Rip but it says DVD not found, but Ubuntu recognizes that there's a DVD disc in there, just not a movie
[06:46] <ig-shoot-me> So what do I do guys?
[06:46] <Xenguy> btdown: I worked off an article I found (linux journal? debian-administration.org?)
[06:46] <Madpilot> sean, ah. Never done anything with ripping DVDs, sorry
[06:47] <btdown> xenguy Cool..That'll give me a place to start. Thanks again!
[06:47] <sean> mmk
[06:47] <Xenguy> btdown: remember you want to tunnel via ssh
[06:47] <HymnToLife> sean > DVD Ripping is a no-go on Linux
[06:47] <HymnToLife> if there's a decent tool to do it I haven't found it yet
[06:47] <Xenguy> btdown: encrypted traffic
[06:47] <HymnToLife> and I've done quite a bit of searching
[06:47] <sean> well how can I at least watch DVDs
[06:47] <btdown> xenguy got it...Wish me luck!
[06:47] <Xenguy> btdown: aye
[06:48] <HymnToLife> sean > I use VLC, works perfectly
[06:48] <ig-shoot-me> Anybody wanna help me?
[06:49] <HymnToLife> !helpme
[06:49] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[06:49] <ig-shoot-me> I asked it a couple times.
[06:49] <sean> HymnToLife, i just tried that and it didn't work, what should I put for device in the MLR
[06:49] <birdfish> when I execute the command "sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward", I get a "permission denied error" :/  What is the problem with this?
[06:49] <HymnToLife> :o must've missed it
[06:49] <Xenguy> btdown: found it: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/135
[06:49] <aszurom> ig wants to know how to get flash installed in FF
[06:49] <ig-shoot-me> I typed in the thing
[06:49] <ig-shoot-me> And it did the text lot
[06:49] <ig-shoot-me> And it finished
[06:50] <ig-shoot-me> And I closed it and restarted firefox and still missing plugin
[06:50] <btdown> xenguy Thanks! I was just looking for it at the site! thank you!
[06:50] <coz> aszurom sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[06:50] <HymnToLife> birdfish> if I'm not mistaken you have to be *real* root to mess with things in /proc
[06:50] <Xenguy> btdown: heheh
[06:50] <coz> or go to flash site and download the linux version
[06:50] <birdfish> HymnToLife: How would I become real root?
[06:50] <HymnToLife> sudo su
[06:51] <birdfish> Ah, thanks :)
[06:51] <intelikey> birdfish there is a fake root ?
[06:51] <ig-shoot-me> I couldnt find that.
[06:51] <aszurom> will the real root please stand up?
[06:51] <ig-shoot-me> The flash linux thing.
[06:52] <jjs0ah> birdfish: sudo su -
[06:52] <intelikey> HymnToLife what's wrong with  sudo -i
[06:52] <ig-shoot-me> Could I get the help now please? :P
[06:52] <HymnToLife> intelikey> that it does exactly the same thing than sudo su does
[06:52] <HymnToLife> what's wrong with sudo su ?
[06:53] <intelikey> nothing if you add a - to the end of it :)
[06:53] <HymnToLife> ?
[06:53] <Madpilot> !tell ig-shoot-me about flash
[06:53] <Xenguy> sudo -i
[06:53] <dli__> how to make apt to download files in parallel? it issues two connections at at once
[06:53] <aszurom> hey ig, you could fire up synaptic package manager and install flash that way
[06:53] <aszurom> there's a package for it
[06:54] <gopi> Can anyone help me plz? I am not getting sound at all in xawtv
[06:54] <dli__> aszurom, no synaptic, I'm ssh login, slow pipe
[06:54] <intelikey> dli__ aptitude
[06:54] <dli__> intelikey, and it will download parallel?
[06:55] <jdprc06> hey i need some help
[06:55] <sline_crecature> ig-shoot-me, have you tried: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=Flash#head-f375cba46014e861cd5ec7643bd7c4ef05acff2b
[06:55] <intelikey> i'm not sure,
[06:55] <Madpilot> jdprc06, ask an actual question, and you might get some actual help :P
[06:55] <jdprc06> haha ok
[06:56] <jdprc06> i used partitionmagic in windows, then rebooted and installed ubuntu.  since then, i haven't been able to access my windows home edition on boot.  how can i fix this or at least be able to edit that partition from ubuntu?
[06:56] <Healot> ubuntu is magical, smells magical
[06:57] <intelikey> !dualboot
[06:57] <ubotu> I heard dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[06:57] <jdprc06> i'm able to choose it on startup, but it doesn't load windows
[06:57] <ig-shoot-me> Hmm, whats my root password?
[06:57] <ig-shoot-me> I dont know the root password :S
[06:58] <m5m> Anyone guess why ./configure --help doesn't work for me???
[06:58] <intelikey> jdprc06 did you check the linky thingy the bot posted ?
[06:58] <ig-shoot-me> Whats the root password by default?
[06:58] <revolutionary> none
[06:59] <jdprc06> yeah i'm reading it now
[06:59] <Terminus> ig-shoot-me: root is disabled by default.
[06:59] <jjs0ah> where can i get libdvdcss? using dapper
[06:59] <IdleOne> !tell ig-shoot-me about root
[06:59] <revolutionary> scrambled
[06:59] <Madpilot> ig-shoot-me, there isn't one. Use sudo
[06:59] <sean> i need help with libdvdcss
[06:59] <intelikey> m5m  no  executable file named configure in the $PWD  ?
[06:59] <revolutionary> ubuntu.com
[06:59] <CuriousCat> hey sline_crecature, didn't work. :(
[06:59] <jdprc06> but it all involves booting into windows, which i can't do. it freezes
[06:59] <revolutionary> Sean
[06:59] <paradizelost> hey all
[07:00] <sline_crecature> CuriousCat, sorry to hear that, i'm not sure what else to suggest to you
[07:00] <Madpilot> !tell sean about dvd
[07:00] <paradizelost> i'm trying to get Xgl working on a Radeon AIW 9800 pro, it's on the compatitility list, but when X starts up, it's just the grey screen with the spinning "thinking" cursor
[07:00] <sean> revolutionary, i launched mplayer in a shell for a dvd and it said Could not open /dev/dvd with libdvdcss.
[07:00] <paradizelost> anyone have any ideas?
[07:00] <IdleOne> !tell jjs0ah about dvd
[07:00] <paradizelost> doesn't get to the GDM login screen, but it doesn't crash either
[07:00] <m5m> ahh thanks intelikey; that did it... i thought ./configure --help was a systemwide, kind of liek a man page... it didnt't occur to me that it was path-dependent and source specific!
[07:01] <jjs0ah> IdleOne: thanks
[07:01] <CuriousCat> sline_crecature, question. what's the iocharset on fstab for?
[07:01] <revolutionary> sean, goto ubuntu.com
[07:01] <IdleOne> jjs0ah>  no problem
[07:01] <revolutionary> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:01] <intelikey> jdprc06 used to use the  f8 key  when win first kicked off to get a safemode boot option    have you tried hitting  f8 as soon as you slect the windows option in grub ?
[07:01] <revolutionary> sean
[07:02] <sean> hmm
[07:02] <jdprc06> no
[07:02] <jdprc06> i'll try that
[07:02] <revolutionary> im having problems with my external usb dvd drive.
[07:02] <paradizelost> anyone who can help me w/ my Xgl problem?
[07:02] <IdleOne> paradizelost> #ubuntu-xgl
[07:02] <revolutionary> it won't mount automatically,
[07:03] <paradizelost> IdleOne: danke
[07:03] <sean> revolutionary, what the wiki or the forums?
[07:03] <revolutionary> i have to goto the shell and pmount /dev/sro
[07:03] <revolutionary> i have to goto the shell and pmount /dev/sr0
[07:03] <revolutionary> sean, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:03] <sline_crecature> CuriousCat, sorry, i'm not sure i could explain the function but you do need to have that specified correctly
[07:04] <sline_crecature> CuriousCat, what is the line in your fstab?
[07:04] <sean> revolutionary, thanks
[07:04] <ig-shoot-me> Someone help me with http://pastebin.com/608656
[07:04] <CuriousCat> sline_crecature, ok. let me check this out again. Because i didn't specify that in my fstab
[07:04] <CuriousCat> sline_crecature, er... the exact line escapes me at the moment. :D
[07:04] <intelikey> sline_crecature CuriousCat tells linux what language encoding the filesystem is writen in.
[07:04] <revolutionary> i have gnome-volume-manager, hal, dbus, usbview, usbmount installed by no luck getting it to auto mount when i insert a dvd.
[07:05] <IdleOne> ig-shoot-me> edot /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the us. part from your repos
[07:05] <IdleOne> edit*
[07:05] <CuriousCat> thanks intelikey. Maybe that *is* my problem then. :)
[07:05] <CuriousCat> Will check it out right now
[07:05] <IdleOne> !tell ig-shoot-me about easysource
[07:06] <revolutionary> help
[07:06] <IdleOne> ig-shoot-me>  those mirromax repos arent official ubuntu repos are they?
[07:06] <sean> do you need to have w32codecs in order to watch DVDs
[07:07] <intelikey> put the exclamation point in front of that revolutionary
[07:07] <intelikey> !help
[07:07] <frank23> sean: no
[07:07] <nathaniel> hey, I installed WinXP on another computer after I had installed Ubuntu, is there an easy way to reinstall the bootloader without reinstalling Ubuntu?
[07:07] <frank23> !dvd
[07:07] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[07:08] <intelikey> nathaniel sure.   man grub-install
[07:08] <Madpilot> nathaniel, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[07:08] <Terminus> nathaniel: boot from a livecd, mount and chroot to the ubuntu partitions, and then run grub-install.
[07:08] <IdleOne> sean  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[07:08] <pedrolito> Is it possible to install ubuntu without a cd, i.e. with all the files on a partition?
[07:09] <C-O-L-T> Seveas:?
[07:09] <nathaniel> thanks
[07:09] <ig-shoot-me> I still cant use flash
[07:09] <intelikey> the man pages are on the live aren't they ?
[07:09] <IdleOne> errr
[07:09] <IdleOne> nathaniel>  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[07:09] <ig-shoot-me> Wait, yes I can
[07:09] <ig-shoot-me> Hm
[07:09] <IdleOne> sean>  sorry wrong person :)
[07:09] <revolutionary> no i need help figuring out why my usb dvd drive wont auto mount.
[07:10] <sean> yeah
[07:10] <revolutionary> neverming
[07:10] <revolutionary> nevermind
[07:10] <intelikey> unplug and replug it
[07:10] <intelikey> ok
[07:12] <frank23> is it possible to deny network access to a specific program? for example deny to one browser and allow another
[07:13] <tarheel> whats a good media player for linux
[07:13] <pedrolito> tarheel, mplayer
[07:13] <tarheel> that will play avi and mpg
[07:13] <intelikey> !vlc
[07:13] <ubotu> it has been said that vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the repos)
[07:14] <pedrolito> intelikey, does vlc support wmv3 now?
[07:14] <intelikey> pedrolito how would i know that on a p1 system ?
[07:15] <pedrolito> yikes a p1?
[07:15] <karron> #ubnutu-zh
[07:15] <intelikey> and dialup   hehhe
[07:15] <IdleOne> wow
[07:15] <IdleOne> thought I had it bad with my P2
[07:15] <pedrolito> you're a masochistic
[07:15] <tarheel> lol i still got and old windows 3.1 machine
[07:15] <IdleOne> at least I have dsl hehe
[07:15] <paradizelost> dangit, there's no one in the Xgl channels....
[07:16] <intelikey> Kernel: Linux 2.6.10-5-386 | Distro: unknown | CPU: Pentium MMX @ 262 Mhz | Mem usage: 49.0/92.4 MB (53%) | Swap usage: unavailable | Disk usage(ST3630A): 0.5/0.6 GB (83%) | Uptime: 4 hrs 44 mins 42 secs
[07:16] <pedrolito> a 600 mb hd, that's not much
[07:17] <intelikey> kinda hard to do much dual booting on a .6g hdd  :)
[07:17] <Healot> ???
[07:18] <chasmarang> When I use insmod I get: Error dscudkp.o; Invalid module format - I'm using breezy is that why?
[07:18] <intelikey> it was 100 mhz   i kinda over clocked it a bit.
[07:18] <tarheel> lol
[07:18] <BlueEagle> intelikey: cat /proc/cpuinfo|grep bogomips
[07:19] <intelikey> BlueEagle why ?   it reports dubble the real spead
[07:19] <BlueEagle> chasmarang: sounds like you've upgraded or recompiled your kernel but not your kernel modules (or not installed them)
[07:19] <BlueEagle> intelikey: I am just curious. :)
[07:19] <intelikey> 518
[07:20] <Arclite> The gift for the man who has everything: Ubuntu.
[07:20] <chasmarang> oh oh how do I do that?
[07:20] <Arclite> I got 65 Breezy CDs for my birthday.
[07:20] <mike_> is there a wiki for properly installing gnucash?
[07:20] <BlueEagle> chasmarang: Did you compile your own kernel?
[07:20] <Madpilot> mike_, 'sudo apt-get install gnucash' should work
[07:20] <chasmarang> I'm learning to but not yet
[07:21] <BlueEagle> chasmarang: Well after your new kernel is compiled run make modules_install to install the new modules.
[07:21] <mike_> madpilot: is that all? rookie here
[07:21] <Madpilot> !info gnucash
[07:21] <ubotu> gnucash: (A personal finance tracking program), section universe/gnome, is extra. Version: 1.8.10-18 (breezy), Packaged size: 1282 kB, Installed size: 3908 kB
[07:21] <Madpilot> mike_, if you've got Universe repo enabled, that'll work
[07:21] <Arclite> Now I'm not sure what to do with them all. There's not too many computer geeks around Union, MO.
[07:22] <mike_> was able to get it using the synaptic manager, but can only get to it through a terminal
[07:22] <Arclite> Maybe I should go hand them out at McDonald's. :D
[07:22] <chasmarang> I get: make: *** No rule to make target `modules_install'.  Stop.
[07:22] <Madpilot> mike_, you can add a menu entry - right-click on your Applications menu, select Edit Menu, etc
[07:23] <intelikey> not many "computer geeks" around here either....
[07:23] <Madpilot> Arclite, hand them out at your local library - give some to some of the local computer stores - or high school compsci teachers
[07:23] <CuriousCat> gah...
[07:23] <mike_> looking...
[07:23] <CuriousCat> still nada.
[07:23] <Healot> chasmarang, you just typed "make modules_install" right?
[07:23] <chasmarang> yep
[07:24] <Healot> chasmarang, take a look that the makefile, check out for the make target, anyways wth are you trying to compile?
[07:24] <Healot> or better READ the documentation for possible make targets
[07:24] <albacker> !shipit
[07:25] <ubotu> For free ubuntu CDs, visit https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[07:25] <albacker> ,shipit
[07:25] <albacker> ubotu tell me about shipit
[07:25] <albacker> how does this work ?!
[07:25] <mike_> madpilot: nope, doesn't show up at all
[07:26] <Madpilot> mike_, in the menu editor, select which sub-menu you want gnucash to appear in (Office?) then hit the New Entry button
[07:26] <chasmarang> there is no makefile I just typed at the command line
[07:26] <Healot> albacker, visit ubuntu's website... then select Order.... register your e-mail/related stuff, login and order...
[07:26] <mike_> ok hang on
[07:26] <Arclite> albacker: You create an account, put it your address and what CDs you want, and 4-6 weeks later they're in your mailbox.
[07:26] <sline_crecature> CuriousCat, is your linux fs ext3?
[07:26] <Healot> READ the documentation for possible make targets, usually in "README" file or on the website... yeah be a tool :)
[07:27] <CuriousCat> sline_crecature,  uhmmm. i think
[07:27] <Arclite> Or they're in your friend's mailbox, and they wrap them in goofy orange/red/yellow paper and give them to you for your birthday.
[07:27] <albacker> thanks Healot Arclite i got the URL of shipit :)
[07:27] <Madpilot> mike_, in the Command box, just put 'gnucash' w/o quotes
[07:27] <intelikey> hehhe   just a random command chasmarang   'make modules_install '   for the fun of it did ya ?
[07:27] <sline_crecature> you can try installing an ext2 driver for windows and see if you can copy the files over in windows
[07:27] <chasmarang> yes make modules_install
[07:27] <Travis_> how do I search like 50 files for a certain word using grep?
[07:27] <shukhrat> how i can change language to Russian my Ubuntu ?
[07:27] <mike_> madpilot: it's there, but won't let me make it visible
[07:28] <chasmarang> and I got: make: *** No rule to make target `modules_install'.  Stop.
[07:28] <CuriousCat> sline_crecature, er... hmm... ok.
[07:28] <Madpilot> mike_, clicking on the checkbox doesn't work?
[07:28] <Healot> Travis_, just do a filename wildcard
[07:28] <mike_> nope
[07:28] <sline_crecature> CuriousCat, see if this software helps: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[07:28] <Travis_> Healot I don't know howto use grep what command could I use?
[07:28] <sline_crecature> it will let you read your linux partition in windows
[07:28] <Healot> chasmarang, anyways wth are you trying to compile...
[07:28] <intelikey> shukhrat    sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[07:28] <mike_> however, it does add it as a sub under office
[07:28] <Madpilot> mike_, strange. I've never actually installed gnucash, so I'm not sure what's up
[07:29] <Healot> Travis_, ask Mr. "man"
[07:29] <chasmarang> a usb driver
[07:29] <Healot> "man grep"
[07:29] <Travis_> I thought it was just a simple command
[07:29] <Healot> chasmarang, READ the documentation FIRST, honestly...
[07:29] <Madpilot> Travis_, grep is actually fairly complex :P
[07:29] <Healot> Travis_, the command is simple... the PATTERN is not
[07:30] <CuriousCat> Travis_, fairly complex yet highly powerful!
[07:30] <chasmarang> it compiles alright it just dosn't insmod - I'm going step by step with the document right now
[07:30] <mike_> madpilot: thanks, i'm farther along than I was before and learned something in the process. :)
[07:30] <Travis_> healot I want to search all files in /var/www/center for the word echo
[07:30] <Madpilot> mike_, np
[07:31] <Healot> Travis_, just do this "grep "echo" /vat/www/center"
[07:31] <Travis_> l
[07:31] <Travis_> k
[07:32] <intelikey> Travis_   you should read the man page on grep    man grep     but the command you are asking about  is    grep -HiRe'echo' /var/www/center
[07:32] <Travis_> Healot is that recursive
[07:32] <Healot> -R is
[07:32] <Travis_> k
[07:32] <Healot> I showed the simplest form
[07:32] <Travis_> k
[07:33] <intelikey> simplest  but not recursive.
[07:33] <Travis_> thanks that worked
[07:33] <Healot> read the manual... for all the switches...
[07:33] <Travis_> k
[07:33] <CuriousCat> sline_crecature, you are a *lifesaver*! :D
[07:33] <chasmarang> Healot: it compiles alright it just dosn't insmod - I'm going step by step with the document right now
[07:33] <CuriousCat> sline_crecature, works perfectly!
[07:33] <sline_crecature> CuriousCat, i'm glad that worked :)
[07:33] <Healot> yeah READ the first step to understand anything :)
[07:34] <CuriousCat> sline_crecature, just can't figure out why it can't see the files transferred by linux.
[07:34] <CuriousCat> but it can see the files transferred by windows just fine
[07:34] <sline_crecature> i'm not sure why that is either
[07:34] <intelikey> Healot hmmm  ;/   i learned all i know about computers by the 'trial and reformat' method   .....
[07:35] <sline_crecature> does the line in your fstab look like this: /dev/hda1       /media/windows  vfat    iocharset=utf8,umask=000   0       0
[07:35] <sline_crecature> except with the correct partition name, of course
[07:35] <Healot> intelikey, i don't :)
[07:35] <Healot> VMware+LiveCD
[07:36] <intelikey> yup
[07:36] <Healot> plus previous experience on other UNIXes... GNU/Linux is fairly new, yet very familiar
[07:36] <albacker> is there any tool for linux that converts little avis to small gifs ?
[07:37] <fyrestrtr> guys, is it possible to install a ubuntu system from the LiveCD? Or do I have to download the install CD image.
[07:37] <Healot> a lot... not familiar with each and everyone. but vlc+totem could work...
[07:38] <DUMAiSO> where do i get java jre1.5?
[07:38] <intelikey> fyrestrtr it is possable.  but you don't want too.   dl the install cd.
[07:38] <DUMAiSO> where do i get java jre1.5 for dapper?
[07:38] <Healot> fyrestrtr, yes you can actually, but it is the tedious copy+chmod process
[07:38] <fyrestrtr> ah okay.
[07:38] <fyrestrtr> I'll just download the install CD then.
[07:38] <CuriousCat> sline_crecature, yup.
[07:38] <s|k> is there a way to run mac programs on linux?
[07:38] <fyrestrtr> now officially running *three* different distros. What a headache.
[07:39] <Healot> DUMAiSO, download Sun J2DK/JRE from Sun website, and install "make-jpkg" package from ubuntu's "universe" section
[07:39] <s|k> fyrestrtr: which ones?
[07:39] <Healot> s|k, use Mac emulator
[07:39] <DUMAiSO> Healot, ok
[07:39] <s|k> Healot: can I run safari with mac emulator?
[07:39] <Healot> !javadebs
[07:39] <fyrestrtr> FC4, Gentoo, RHEL, and soon, ubuntu
[07:39] <Healot> s|k, yes... it supposed too, just like that wine thing
[07:40] <s|k> wine is not an emulator ;D
[07:40] <sline_crecature> CuriousCat, well then i'm at a loss.
[07:40] <Healot> s|k, are you talking about the OLD MacOS application or the new MacOS X's?
[07:40] <s|k> X?
[07:40] <Healot> s|k, you got that right
[07:41] <fyrestrtr> and lo and behold, not one simple way to do the same operation in all three of them. Right now scratching my head on spmass-milter on FC4, the other day was wondering why PHP5 on Gentoo couldn't recognize preg_* functions.
[07:41] <sean> I just ran a cat /etc/modules.conf and it said it didn't exist
[07:41] <sean> is that bad
[07:41] <pab1> modprobe.d
[07:41] <s|k> ./etc/modules.conf ?
[07:41] <chasmarang> okay just for grins and giggles write this in hello.c
[07:41] <intelikey> yeah use the windows emulator 'wine = Wine Is Not an Emulator '    :)
[07:41] <Raul654> Quick question - after apt-getting gcc on a recent installation of ubuntu, I noticed that certain programs that worked fine on other systems became broken when I compiled on the ubuntu system. It looks like, on those ohter systems, gcc automatically includes certain header files (such as, among others, stdio.h and unistd.h) and on ubuntu it does not. Is there a setting for this somewhere?
[07:41] <chasmarang> #define MODULE
[07:41] <chasmarang> int init_module(void)      { printk("<1>Hello, world\n"); return 0; }
[07:41] <chasmarang> void cleanup_module(void)  { printk("<1>Goodbye cruel world\n"); }
[07:41] <Healot> Freaking wine...
[07:41] <sean> s|k, yeah /etc/modules.conf
[07:41] <chasmarang> then gcc -c hello.c
[07:41] <chasmarang> then sudo insmod hello.o
[07:41] <intelikey> sean no
[07:42] <chasmarang> and tell me if you dont get the error
[07:42] <chasmarang> insmod: error inserting 'hello.o': -1 Invalid module format
[07:42] <intelikey> drop that .conf
[07:42] <slide> For some reason all of a sudden my sound doesnt work. Can anyone help me?
[07:42] <pab1> modules.conf can also be /etc/modprobe.d
[07:42] <baquero22> someone can help me
[07:42] <Healot> slide, work out your ears :)
[07:42] <sean> ok
[07:42] <s|k> ubotu: tell chasmarang about pasting
[07:42] <baquero22> my webcam is not working properly
[07:42] <s|k> heh
[07:42] <s|k> !paste
[07:42] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[07:42] <baquero22> when i use it with amsn it start to be bright and then dark and then bright and then dark
[07:42] <intelikey>  etc/modules
[07:42] <sean> how do I turn DMA on for my DVDROM
[07:42] <Healot> !tell baquero22  webcam
[07:43] <baquero22> like if i were playing with the controls
[07:43] <Healot> !tell baquero22 about webcam
[07:43] <Raul654> Anyone?
[07:43] <s|k> Raul654: ?
[07:43] <Raul654> After apt-getting gcc on a recent installation of ubuntu, I noticed that certain programs that worked fine on other systems became broken when I compiled on the ubuntu system. It looks like, on those ohter systems, gcc automatically includes certain header files (such as, among others, stdio.h and unistd.h) and on ubuntu it does not. Is there a setting for this somewhere?
[07:43] <baquero22> well yes,, the camera is already install
[07:43] <Healot> sean, you can turn it on in the BIOS setup or use "hdparm"
[07:43] <chasmarang> that was seven lines
[07:43] <slide> ok n/m apparently the master was muted somehow
[07:43] <baquero22> the problem is when i start to transmit the signal it starts to go crazy
[07:43] <sean> Healot, hdparm what
[07:44] <s|k> Raul654: get the live headers
[07:44] <Raul654> s|k - what do you mean?
[07:44] <Raul654> The headers are there
[07:44] <Healot> Raul654, install "build-essential" first
[07:44] <intelikey> !tell Raul654 about b-e
[07:44] <Raul654> The headers are there, it's just (unlike other systems) you have to explicitely include them
[07:44] <baquero22> someone know where are the webcam logs of amsn located???
[07:44] <intelikey> Raul654 why are you compiling things in ubuntu ?
[07:44] <CuriousCat> ok. I have another problem
[07:45] <Healot> nay, baquero22, prolly in ~/.amsn folder
[07:45] <s|k> Raul654: sorry not live headers, linux headers
[07:45] <CuriousCat> a folder that i KNOW i deleted on linux showed up on windows. but it says it's corrupted. I looked in linux and it's still there, but i get an input/output error when I try to delete it. How do I solve this?
[07:45] <Raul654> intelikey - um, I'm a phd student in computer engineering. I do a lot of coding
[07:45] <s|k> Raul654: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[07:45] <s|k> Raul654: don't forget the `
[07:45] <Raul654> s|k - and what does that install?
[07:46] <s|k> Raul654: the kernel headers
[07:46] <Healot> The kernel header fo the current kernel version
[07:46] <baquero22> Mmm what is that ~ mean???
[07:46] <intelikey> k just wondering Raul654 cause we see a lot of people trying to compile things that are in the repos, but looks like you know what you are doing.
[07:46] <Raul654> meaning what, exactly?
[07:46] <s|k> Raul654: you got me
[07:46] <s|k> Raul654: I just know I need them :0
[07:47] <C-O-L-T> hello people
[07:47] <C-O-L-T> anybody here?
[07:47] <Healot> C-O-L-T, nobody
[07:47] <Healot> is here
[07:47] <s|k> !info headers
[07:47] <Madpilot> C-O-L-T, only you and 620 others :P
[07:47] <chasmarang> nobody here just us dimmer switches
[07:47] <C-O-L-T> I am having some problems at dapper
[07:47] <Raul654> s|k - ok, so I install these linux header and that will force gcc to include those headers by default?
[07:47] <C-O-L-T> can some body help?
[07:47] <intelikey> !info build-essential
[07:47] <ubotu> build-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 11.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[07:47] <Healot> C-O-L-T, #ubuntu+1
[07:47] <sniper> hello
[07:48] <Madpilot> C-O-L-T, if you just asked your question, you'd have been getting help already, probably...
[07:48] <nanie> heller
[07:48] <C-O-L-T> Madpilot: how to mount my windows drive in dapper, because I can not
[07:48] <s|k> Raul654: I really don't know the details, but I know that if you need the headers, running that command will install them, I think Healot might be able to better explain what they do
[07:48] <sniper> were do i get help "docs" on ubuntu
[07:48] <intelikey> !ntfs
[07:48] <ubotu> [ntfs]  the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[07:48] <chasmarang> well help the guy instead of yelling at him
[07:49] <Raul654> s|k - ok, thanks :)
[07:49] <baquero22> noone know cool xploits links??
[07:49] <Madpilot> sniper, try System menu -> Help
[07:49] <Healot> they never know what the hell they actually need/want
[07:49] <sniper> thankyou i just install it
[07:49] <_ajopaul> COLT does ur /etc/fstab have the necessary entries?
[07:49] <tarheel> how do you modify the sources list with g edit
[07:49] <tarheel> its a read only
[07:50] <Madpilot> tarheel, "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[07:50] <Healot> tar prepend "sudo " before any of those "read-only-"
[07:50] <Raul654> s|k - (in case you're the least bit curious) Specifically, I'm working on converting Nasa's CG benchmark to run on (what we hope) will be the world's fastest supercomputer
[07:50] <Healot> or gksudo if you're on GNOME
[07:50] <Madpilot> tarheel, and when it asks for a password, use your own user pw
[07:50] <Raul654> so that's why this compiler thing is irritating :)
[07:50] <Healot> Raul654, ubuntu's meant for noobs...
[07:51] <Raul654> Healot - everyone minute I spend banging my head against the wall trying to figure out why some thing won't install onto red hat /mandrake is one less second I have to do more important things
[07:51] <Raul654> which is why I like ubuntu
[07:52] <Raul654> it works like I want it to (mostly)
[07:52] <opter> it was the easiest OS install I have ever done
[07:52] <baquero22> how to see in the file browser the files that are like ~/.msn
[07:52] <baquero22> i mean the folders inside
[07:52] <C-O-L-T> Madpilot: I have w32codecs but I still can not play mp3 in dapper
[07:52] <intelikey> Raul654 the compiler is not installed by default   the meta package build-essential is to automate the installation of all that is need for a full c compiler   if you only install gcc you only have a partial compiler really.
[07:53] <s|k> Raul654: it's not called skynet is it?
[07:53] <Madpilot> C-O-L-T, I don't run Dapper myself - have you asked on #ubuntu+1?
[07:53] <Raul654> S|k - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclops64
[07:53] <Raul654> Intel - I went through the online help guides and installed gcc and libc
[07:53] <Raul654> so all the header files are definitely there
[07:53] <s|k> Raul654: are you hiring any librarians ;P
[07:53] <baquero22> omg
[07:53] <mdmkolbe> Any recommendations for a dyndns client?  There seem to be several in ubuntu's universe such as ddclient and ipcheck but I don't know which are any good.
[07:53] <tarheel> its not gonna let me do it
[07:53] <GTroy> do problems happen a lot with going to duplex sound?
[07:53] <baquero22> so questions too stupid?? too new in linux... lol
[07:54] <s|k> Raul654: do you have the build-essential?
[07:54] <Madpilot> Raul654, did you install build-essential to get all the compile tools?
[07:54] <Raul654> I did a build essential, yes
[07:54] <GTroy> !duplex sound
[07:54] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, GTroy
[07:54] <Raul654> (I don't have access to the system ATM; I am saying this from memory)
[07:54] <f00f_bug> how do i stop xscreensaver from locking my display when i shut my lid?
[07:55] <Raul654> madpilot - I did *a* build install. Do I have to do it for multiple tools?
[07:55] <C-O-L-T> who uses dapper drake?
[07:55] <Raul654> erm, build essnetial*
[07:55] <GTroy> anyone know about duplex sounds?
[07:55] <Madpilot> Raul654, there is only one build-essential package
[07:55] <intelikey> !b-e
[07:55] <ubotu> well, b-e is no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[07:56] <Raul654> mad - ok, well I've done that
[07:56] <intelikey> Raul654 ^
[07:56] <Raul654> intel - I've put that in my list of things to try, even though I'm fairly sure I did it ocne before
[07:56] <Raul654> I'll try it again :)
[07:56] <intelikey> k
[07:57] <C-O-L-T> ANYBODY USES DAPPER DRAKE?
[07:57] <Raul654> s|k - and to answer your question - no, we don't need librarians. A good file-system developers, yes, but not a librarian
[07:57] <s|k> Raul654: oww :(
[07:57] <mdmkolbe> C-O-L-T: YES.  *ahem* you may want to go to #ubuntu+1
[07:57] <GTroy> C-O-L-T: don't shout please
[07:58] <s|k> !tell C-O-L-T about caps
[07:58] <intelikey> Raul654 if you try building something and is asks for specific libs   prolly a *devel  package needed,    you know  'apt-cache search <blah> '   is your friend  on things like that.
[07:58] <s|k> intelikey: he left
[07:59] <s|k> assuming it was a he, is Raul a guys name?
[07:59] <Matic`Makovec> yes
[07:59] <intelikey> show is
[08:00] <Matic`Makovec> anyway
[08:00] <Matic`Makovec> i have a small problem myself
[08:00] <Matic`Makovec> http://pastebin.com/608677
[08:00] <Matic`Makovec> if anyone could look at it and maybe give some solution
[08:02] <intelikey> games in wine ehh
[08:02] <Matic`Makovec> intelikey, any other suggestion about emulator?
[08:02] <Matic`Makovec> cedega wont work becouse of the xlibs
[08:02] <HymnToLife> Wine Is Not an Emulatoe :D
[08:02] <Matic`Makovec> i know that.
[08:03] <intelikey> cedega
[08:03] <HymnToLife> -e+r
[08:03] <Matic`Makovec> instabin, i just told you it wont work.
[08:03] <Matic`Makovec> pardon me, intelikey
[08:04] <intelikey> glx error   i can't help with that.
[08:04] <intelikey> maybe try cedega
[08:04] <tarheel> i cant get a media player to play a video on this thing its unreal
[08:04] <shukhrat> how i can install modem in ubuntu(breezy) is plag in play system work in Ubuntu ?
[08:04] <Matic`Makovec> http://pastebin.com/608680
[08:04] <intelikey> Matic`Makovec cedega maybe ?
[08:04] <HymnToLife> tarheel> what kind of video ?
[08:04] <Matic`Makovec> intelikey,  look at the url pls
[08:05] <tarheel> like avi files mpg files
[08:05] <tarheel> noat wont play anything
[08:05] <intelikey> maybe cedega  ?
[08:05] <HymnToLife> no way
[08:05] <tarheel> so its useless
[08:05] <HymnToLife> just get vlc
[08:05] <tarheel> it wont find em
[08:05] <Matic`Makovec> tarheel, have you installed plugins etc
[08:05] <tarheel> tried it wont find anything
[08:05] <Matic`Makovec> tarheel, and another suggestion: use xmms, gxine
[08:05] <tarheel> xmms wont play video files
[08:06] <HymnToLife> you're obviously doing something wrong
[08:06] <Matic`Makovec> tarheel, that's why gxine is there
[08:06] <HymnToLife> VLC reads most AVI and all MPGs just fine
[08:06] <tarheel> here look at this
[08:06] <tarheel> se i386 (20051012) breezy/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.10%20%5fBreezy%20Badger%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20051012)_dists_breezy_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[08:06] <tarheel> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[08:06] <tarheel> E: Couldn't find package vlc
[08:06] <tarheel> thats about half it
[08:07] <intelikey> !info xlibs
[08:07] <HymnToLife> what happens if you run sudo apt-get update ?
[08:07] <ubotu> xlibs: (X Window System client library transitional package), section libs, is optional. Version: 6.8.2-77 (breezy), Packaged size: 89 kB, Installed size: 284 kB
[08:07] <tarheel> oh ill show you that one too
[08:07] <intelikey> why cant you use that Matic`Makovec  ?
[08:07] <Davey> !mp3
[08:07] <ubotu> it has been said that mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:07] <Davey> bah, sorry, waanted that in IM
[08:07] <shukhrat> can anybody say about modem ? how i can install modem ? i have agere/lucent sv92 modem (winmodem) is it good for ubuntu ?
[08:08] <PokerFacePenguin> HymnToLife: it updates the potential packages for your sources.list
[08:08] <HymnToLife> shukhrat> everything you need to know is at http://www.linmodems.org
[08:08] <intelikey> Matic`Makovec pardon my playing around ^ up there.  but is there some reason you can't install the xlibs package and finish installing cedega ?
[08:08] <PokerFacePenguin> :)
[08:08] <viller> hi
[08:08] <Madpilot> !tell shukhrat about modem
[08:08] <Madpilot> !tell shukhrat about winmodem
[08:08] <tarheel> this is what i get when i try and update
[08:08] <tarheel> Failed to fetch cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] /dists/breezy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[08:08] <HymnToLife> PokerFacePenguin> I know than, thanks
[08:08] <tarheel> Failed to fetch cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] /dists/breezy/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[08:08] <tarheel> Reading package lists... Done
[08:08] <tarheel> W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012) breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.10%20%5fBreezy%20Badger%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20051012)_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[08:09] <tarheel> W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012) breezy/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.10%20%5fBreezy%20Badger%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20051012)_dists_breezy_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[08:09] <tarheel> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[08:09] <tarheel> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[08:09] <HymnToLife> I was just asking what error he gets since it doesn't seemm to be working on his box
[08:09] <intelikey> nice flood guy
[08:09] <Madpilot> tarheel, next time, use a pastebing
[08:09] <viller> is there a way to take a screenshot so that the cursor gets on the screenshot too?
[08:09] <Madpilot> pastebin, even
[08:09] <s|k> good lord
[08:09] <tarheel> sorry
[08:09] <HymnToLife> tarheel> your sources.list is bad oviously
[08:09] <s|k> !tell tarheel about pastebin
[08:09] <intelikey> Matic`Makovec pardon my playing around ^ up there.  but is there some reason you can't install the xlibs package and finish installing cedega ?
[08:09] <Madpilot> tarheel, pastebin your sources.list
[08:10] <viller> is there a way to take a screenshot so that the cursor gets on the screenshot too?
[08:10] <tarheel> i cant put anything in my sources list
[08:10] <ascension> the current linux-headers and kernel-image that came through with updates for ubuntu...what gcc compilier where they compiled under? 3.4.5 or 4...and if 3.4.5 why isn't it the one that ships with the package tree
[08:10] <_ajopaul> tarheel, comment our ur cdrom from repos
[08:11] <HymnToLife> tarheel> 1) run sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list 2) delete everything and paste this file instead : http://membres.lycos.fr/mafiaboy03/sources.list 3) close the file (don't forget to save the changes) 4) run sudo apt-get update 5) Enjoy :)
[08:11] <canllaith> Heya, how do I get ubuntu to reconfigure my sound card? I can modprobe the module by hand, that works fine
[08:11] <canllaith> but I had no sound card during the installer so it didn't set one up
[08:11] <ascension> canllaith, alsaconf
[08:11] <canllaith> Don't seem to have it
[08:12] <tarheel> hey man you dont have to crash my system
[08:12] <ascension> installl alsa then I guess?
[08:12] <Madpilot> HymnToLife & tarheel - use this standard sources.list instead: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[08:12] <phlaegel> anybody have trouble with the mouse back button in epiphany? my back/forward buttons work in firefox but not epiphany...
[08:12] <canllaith> I do have alsa
[08:12] <Madpilot> tarheel, what?
[08:12] <ascension> the current linux-headers and kernel-image that came through with updates for ubuntu...what gcc compilier where they compiled under? 3.4.5 or 4...and if 3.4.5 why isn't it the one that ships with the package tree
[08:12] <dli__> where does gdm stores user session choices?
[08:12] <HymnToLife> Madpilot> never remember that URL, I tell people to use mine, it's pretty much the same
[08:12] <tarheel> i cannot modify it in anyway
[08:12] <HymnToLife> some extra repos but they are commented out
[08:12] <intelikey> canllaith modprobe snd-<your card>   ?
[08:12] <tarheel> it wont let me make any changes to the text file
[08:13] <canllaith> intelikey: Yes, I can do that, and it works, but I don't want to do that on every boot
[08:13] <Madpilot> tarheel, "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" doesn't work?
[08:13] <HymnToLife> tarheel> don't forget sudo :)
[08:13] <tarheel> i did it wont save it
[08:13] <Madpilot> tarheel, remove the "", obviously
[08:13] <tarheel> permission denied even when i run it root
[08:13] <intelikey> canllaith so put the snd-<your card>   in /etc/modules
[08:13] <Madpilot> tarheel, are you logged in as the user you created during installation?
[08:14] <tarheel> i am now
[08:14] <tarheel> i only run root privleges in terminal
[08:14] <Madpilot> tarheel, you know about sudo/gksudo, right?
[08:15] <viller> is there a way to take a screenshot so that the cursor gets on the screenshot too?
[08:16] <canllaith> intelikey: thanks
[08:16] <canllaith> and I guess I need to add users to the audio group as well
[08:16] <baquero22> someone knows how to control XMMS from the keyboard media keys?? (Logitech MX Duo)
[08:17] <tarheel> still wont find it
[08:17] <tarheel> and i finally got the source list fixed
[08:17] <intelikey> canllaith yep
[08:17] <fyrestrtr> baquero22: there is a plugin for that.
[08:17] <canllaith> sweet. I'm setting this laptop up for a friend and I'd like to hand it to him all working :) That was the last thing
[08:17] <canllaith> Thanks!
[08:17] <Madpilot> tarheel, what won't find "it"?
[08:18] <tarheel> it cant find it
[08:18] <baquero22> fyrestrt: really?? could be nice to have it !! hehe
[08:18] <tarheel> and ive put the source on the list
[08:18] <baquero22> name?
[08:18] <fyrestrtr> baquero22: don't know what its called in ubuntu, I have it running in gentoo though :)
[08:19] <baquero22> well, gimme the name,, im gonna try to find out
[08:19] <fyrestrtr> baquero22: its called xmms-itouch
[08:19] <fyrestrtr> baquero22: from here http://www.saunalahti.fi/~syrjala/xmms-itouch/
[08:19] <intelikey> tarheel did you   sudo apt-get update     so the new sources would be avalable ?
[08:20] <baquero22> cool, thanks
[08:20] <tarheel> Failed to fetch http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/debian/dists/sarge/mai/source/Sources.gz  404 Not Found
[08:20] <intelikey> tarheel why do you have debian sources in your  sources.list  ?
[08:20] <Madpilot> tarheel, why are you trying to add Debian stuff to Ubuntu?
[08:21] <tarheel> it doesnt have support for ubuntu
[08:21] <thomas> i formatted my 32bit windwos aprtition and kept my 64bit xp and did a fresh install of ubuntu dapper drake but now grub doesnt show my windows 64bit in load menu, how do i get grub to recognize my 64bit xp? i never deleted it off. its stillhere i cna browse it from linnux but it doesnt show up in grub
[08:21] <baquero22> how to install a .tar.gz in the terminal?
[08:21] <viller> is there a way to take a screenshot so that the cursor gets on the screenshot too?
[08:21] <radagrad> After upgrading to dapper on my laptop, the trackpad got *really* slow, and the mouse preferences don't seem to affect it. Any easy fix?
[08:21] <Matic`Makovec> tar -zxf file.tar.gz
[08:21] <Matic`Makovec> and then go to the filename
[08:22] <Matic`Makovec> and then you do ./confiigure && amke && make install
[08:22] <intelikey> baquero22 you don't install a tar ball  you unpack them.   tar -xzf <file.tar.gz>
[08:22] <Matic`Makovec> pardon  me, it's ./configure
[08:22] <Matic`Makovec> pardon  me, it's ./configure
[08:22] <Madpilot> radagrad, try #ubuntu+1 for Dapper questions
[08:22] <viller> is there a way to take a screenshot so that the cursor gets on the screenshot too?
[08:22] <viller> please?
[08:23] <dli__> I want to force gdm to start xfce4 for a user, how to configure?
[08:23] <mdmkolbe> Out of a n00b's curiosity, why does linux have both the 'ip route' commands and the 'route' command?  Is one preferred over/easier to use/more featureful than the other?
[08:23] <Madpilot> viller, if you're not getting an answer, it's because nobody knows...
[08:23] <viller> ok
[08:23] <viller> i'll learn to program and remake the screenshotter?
[08:23] <viller> :d
[08:23] <radagrad> Madpilot, Yeah, thanks, I got the answer I needed there.
[08:23] <dbzdeath> in your opinion would it be a good idea to do a fresh dapper install?
[08:24] <digs> what is the release schedule for ubuntu?
[08:25] <mDot> ubuntu works on a 6 month cycle
[08:25] <mDot> dapper has been pushed back a bit though
[08:26] <Madpilot> digs, early June sometime for Dapper release
[08:26] <digs> I know its six months, but I want to know if there is any date scheduled
[08:28] <ig-shoot-me> I downloaded a tar.gz and I extracted it to my desktop.  Now what do I do?
[08:28] <mDot> what did you download?
[08:28] <ig-shoot-me> gnuchess
[08:29] <mDot> navigate to the extracted folder in terminal and see if there is an install
[08:29] <intelikey> lol delete it and do an   sudo apt-get install gnuchess
[08:29] <mDot> or that...
[08:29] <ig-shoot-me> lol i tried another one like that
[08:29] <baquero22> what is the difference
[08:29] <baquero22> of # and $
[08:29] <baquero22> when they say $make and after # make install
[08:30] <intelikey> baquero22 depends entirely on where they appear
[08:30] <g0dchild> Hi, i tried getting my XP machine to connect to the internet via the Ubuntu Machine i am using- read this piece about ipmasq and dnsmasq on ubuntu forums...didnt do any good.
[08:30] <baquero22> im installing that plugin for the xmms
[08:30] <Agrajag> $ means run as a user, # means run as root
[08:30] <baquero22> so i put ./configure
[08:30] <baquero22> ok cool that was my question
[08:30] <g0dchild> I wasnt even able to connect to the internet afterwards i attempted that guide- so can someone please give a hint what I should be reading next?
[08:30] <ig-shoot-me> http://pastebin.com/608705 Help with that please
[08:31] <intelikey> baquero22 in the PS1 it is the  \$  that is expressed as  $ for uid > 0  or  # for uid < 1
[08:31] <digs> g0dchild, try firestater, it's an iptables wizard. do a "sudo apt-get install firestarter"
[08:31] <baquero22> omg
[08:31] <Madpilot> ig-shoot-me, that means you've got it installed
[08:32] <baquero22> way to advanced for me
[08:32] <ig-shoot-me> Its not in applications >> games
[08:32] <Agrajag> baquero22: it's what I just told you
[08:32] <Madpilot> ig-shoot-me, some stuff doesn't get added to the menu automatically. try typing 'gnuchess' in a terminal
[08:32] <baquero22> yes yes i got it
[08:32] <Agrajag> k
[08:32] <baquero22> but im running the installation as a root and everything is ok
[08:32] <ig-shoot-me> oh, yeah i have it
[08:33] <ig-shoot-me> now im figuring out how to put it in games :P
[08:33] <baquero22> i mean.. things are moving fast in the terminal
[08:33] <g0dchild> digs, ok- anyone here tried sharing an internet connection with an XP machine on LAN before?
[08:33] <baquero22> lol
[08:33] <Madpilot> ig-shoot-me, right-click on your applications menu, select Edit Menu
[08:33] <baquero22> so who told me about that thing xmms itouch?
[08:33] <baquero22> after installation what do u do?
[08:34] <Madpilot> ig-shoot-me, the rest of those errors you're getting with apt-get mean you've got a messed up sources.list...
[08:34] <ig-shoot-me> Where would it be after apt-get so i could put it in the games menu?
[08:34] <intelikey> baquero22 PS1 is the verable that the bash prompt displays    do a   echo $PS1     to see yours.   and note the  \$
[08:34] <g0dchild> and how do i forward ports on Ubuntu? throuugh the firewall?
[08:35] <baquero22> intelikey is a boot?
[08:35] <Madpilot> ig-shoot-me, in the menu editor, select the Games sub-menu, then hit the New Entry button
[08:35] <intelikey> a boot ?
[08:35] <baquero22> bot?
[08:35] <intelikey> no a shoe
[08:35] <Madpilot> ig-shoot-me, then in the Command box, just put gnuchess
[08:35] <baquero22> hahahahha
[08:35] <ig-shoot-me> Oh
[08:35] <ig-shoot-me> Madpilot: thanks
[08:36] <Madpilot> ig-shoot-me, generally, whatever works to start a program from the terminal also works when you're added in a menu entry for it
[08:36] <ig-shoot-me> Hmm..  Its not working
[08:37] <Ads_|Away>  w00t for ubuntu
[08:37] <Decker> hello all
[08:37] <HymnToLife> !tell Decker about hello
[08:37] <Decker> lol
[08:37] <Decker> so necessary :P
[08:37] <HymnToLife> so true :p
[08:38] <ig-shoot-me> I put gnuchess in the command thing but when i select it, nothing happens
[08:39] <ig-shoot-me> So what do I do?
[08:40] <intelikey> gnome-chess - GNOME Chess
[08:40] <intelikey> ?
[08:40] <ig-shoot-me> ?
[08:40] <intelikey> emacs-chess-pieces - XPM images of chess pieces for emacs-chess
[08:41] <intelikey> ?
[08:41] <ig-shoot-me> ?
[08:41] <ig-shoot-me> Why wont gnuchess work?
[08:41] <baquero22> someone installed the xmms itouch plugin????
[08:41] <baquero22> i already installed but i dont know where to start it
[08:41] <natroll-> who did?
[08:42] <intelikey> it probably will.  but i've never messed with it so i don't know what it is supposed to do
[08:42] <intelikey> emacs-chess - a client and library for playing Chess from Emacs
[08:42] <intelikey> 3dchess - 3D chess for X11
[08:42] <baquero22> noome with me???
[08:42] <Decker> does ubuntu only support WEP keys?
[08:43] <natroll-> Decker, check out wpasupplicant
[08:43] <intelikey> ig-shoot-me  do a    gnuchess     in the terminal and see what it says
[08:43] <ig-shoot-me> It works, but not in normal
[08:43] <Ads_> Decker: no it also supports WPA
[08:43] <Decker> i have the live disk of dapper drake
[08:43] <ig-shoot-me> After unpacking 45.8MB of additional disk space will be used.
[08:44] <ig-shoot-me> What the hell is that
[08:44] <Ads_> Decker: check out >> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-90450.html
[08:44] <natroll-> Decker, i don't know if it's included on there as they're still working out the kinks in it
[08:44] <intelikey> ig-shoot-me    man gnuchess    and see what normal is  heh
[08:44] <Decker> ah
[08:44] <Decker> i'll just use wep i suppose :)
[08:45] <Ads_> Decker: yea, doesn't matter since both can be cracked so easily with kismet
[08:45] <Ads_> Decker: best thing is just to change key every week if you're really concerned
[08:45] <natroll-> Ads_, any encryption can be cracked
[08:45] <ig-shoot-me>  After unpacking 45.8MB of additional disk space will be used.
[08:45] <ig-shoot-me> What is that?
[08:45] <Ads_> natroll: that is true
[08:45] <nathaniel> Hey, I have a dell laptop with a removable cd drive and I have HD that goes goes in there....anyone know how to mount it?
[08:45] <natroll-> Ads_, but WPA2 with a sufficiently long key is for all practical purposes uncrackable
[08:46] <Ads_> natroll-: uncrackable?
[08:46] <s|k> heh
[08:46] <natroll-> Ads_, for all practical purposes, as in it would take entirely too long to crack it
[08:46] <s|k> I finally got my USB headset to work
[08:47] <s|k> with Wine LOL
[08:47] <ig-shoot-me>  After unpacking 45.8MB of additional disk space will be used.
[08:47] <ig-shoot-me> Soemone please tell me what that means
[08:47] <intelikey> ig-shoot-me  lol i just installed gnuchess  it's cli  non-graphic  app    you are probably looking for a frontend for it with  xboard
[08:47] <natroll-> Ads_, as in by the time they cracked it the info would be useless
[08:47] <Ads_> natroll-: ah I see, just missunderstood
[08:47] <natroll-> Ads_, np :D
[08:47] <Ads_> lol true.dat
[08:47] <intelikey> ig-shoot-me it means that the installer is asking permission to install "it"
[08:47] <Ads_> <Users on #ubuntu> Total:[627]
[08:48] <Ads_> O_O
[08:48] <ig-shoot-me> intelikey: So how do i remove it?
[08:48] <intelikey> sudo apt-get remove IT
[08:49] <brown_> help i'm trying to get an intell wud 2011b wireless device to work.  It will recognize it under device manager and wireless drivers but not under iwconfig and suggestions??
[08:49] <ig-shoot-me> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[08:49] <ig-shoot-me> I get that
[08:49] <natroll-> is there a way to get the package information of all packages installed on a system?
[08:50] <Decker> bah
[08:50] <natroll-> including dependencies
[08:50] <Decker> my wep key isn't taking
[08:50] <Ads_> brown_: are you using ndiswrapper?
[08:50] <ig-shoot-me> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[08:50] <ig-shoot-me> *so what is that*
[08:50] <intelikey> ig-shoot-me so     sudo dpkg --configure -a
[08:50] <brown_> yes
[08:50] <Ads_> brown
[08:50] <Ads_> woops
[08:50] <natroll-> intelikey, know a way to get all that info?
[08:51] <Ads_> brown_: do this >> ndiswrapper -l
[08:51] <ig-shoot-me> but what will that do
[08:51] <Ads_> brown_: tell me if ur wireless device shows up as wlan0
[08:51] <intelikey> it means you stopped dpkg  while it was installing or removing something ig-shoot-me
[08:52] <ig-shoot-me> intelikey: I see
[08:52] <brown_> wlanusb driver present, hardware present
[08:52] <intelikey> natroll-   dpkg -l | grep ii
[08:52] <ig-shoot-me> intelikey: Alright, so how do i get the gnuchess so i can see the figures
[08:52] <Ads_> brown_: ok type this sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces/
[08:53] <brown_> ok
[08:54] <abhinav> I am trying to include an external library in g++ but it gives an error in the header file./usr/include/speech_tools/EST_Chunk.h:138: error: EST_ChunkPtr has not been declared
[08:54] <abhinav> .Does anyone have any iead why is this happening.
[08:54] <Ads_> brown_: scroll down a bit and look for your device (wlan0) if it's there look for a line that says "auto wlan0" if it's located under your device name then place it at the top of where that device information starts
[08:54] <abhinav> .Does anyone have any idea why is this happening.
[08:54] <brown_> no wlan just eth0
[08:54] <natroll-> intelikey, not quite the info i was looking for, but thanks
[08:54] <ig-shoot-me> intelikey: So how do i get so i can see the chess guys?
[08:54] <intelikey> ig-shoot-me maybe add  xboard    or one of the things i listed up there ^     not sure xboard and gnuchess is all it takes.
[08:54] <Ads_> brown_: you need to install drivers for your device then
[08:55] <pk> what partitions do i need to create?
[08:55] <intelikey> natroll- it can be tweeked in lots of ways,  what are you looking for prezactly ?
[08:55] <Ads_> brown_: get hold of the windows drivers and use ndiswrapper to install it
[08:55] <brown_> i did
[08:55] <HedgeMage> pk: you only *need* a swap partition and a root partition... the rest is really preference
[08:55] <Ads_> brown_: did you modprobe?
[08:55] <natroll-> intelikey, someone on motu got me covered, thanks.  particularly i was lookin for all the info in the make files, more or less
[08:56] <pk> do i need a boot partition?
[08:56] <Toma-> you dont technically *need* a swap either...
[08:56] <natroll-> intelikey, errr, control files
[08:56] <natroll-> intelikey, this was the solution: for i in `dpkg --get-selections | awk '{ print $1 }'` ; do apt-cache show $i ; done
[08:56] <pk> and how much swap should I use for a 512meg ram compaq presario 2570 laptop
[08:56] <intelikey> oh sorry i missed that i guess natroll-
[08:56] <intelikey> 0
[08:57] <natroll-> intelikey, its np
[08:57] <natroll-> intelikey, i didn't specify :)
[08:57] <intelikey> pk heh  but these guys will kick me for saying "you don't need swap"
[08:58] <Toma-> intelikey: id embrace it :)
[08:58] <pk> so uuhh
[08:58] <canllaith> pk: the rule of thumb is twice your memory
[08:58] <Ads_> intelikey: i'd actually recommend swap even with 512mb ram :P
[08:58] <canllaith> pk: especially with a laptop as you may want to use hibernate
[08:58] <pk> how about a boot partitoin?
[08:58] <ethan> hi!
[08:58] <canllaith> which writes the current 'state' to swap
[08:58] <intelikey> i know.    i know....
[08:58] <canllaith> So I'd consider it a bit silly to not use swap on a laptop
[08:58] <ethan> is anybody familiar with smnp, rhhd, mrtg, or anything similiar?
[08:59] <pk> so uuhh
[08:59] <ethan> rrd*
[08:59] <ig-shoot-me> ??
[08:59] <pk> do i need a boot partition?
[08:59] <ewood> Don't we all?
[08:59] <Toma-> i think swapfiles are better. you dont forever allocate that block of space for ever and you can resize without a fuss
[09:00] <pk> and what do i use for primary and logical?
[09:00] <ewood> Yeah. I suppose having swap in a logical volume group makes it about as easy..
[09:00] <Ads_> swap files are sexy the end :)
[09:00] <ethan> Well, what are some tools to graph network usage?
[09:00] <ethan> ;)
[09:00] <tarheel>  is this a valid command if the file you want to open is on desktop
[09:00] <tarheel> sudo chmod a+x RealPlayerGOLD.bin
[09:00] <ewood> I think a dedicated swap hard drive is sexiest.
[09:00] <pk> how about boot partition
[09:00] <Ads_> ethan: how detailed do you want the information?
[09:00] <intelikey> and i didn't say "don't use swap"  i said "you don't NEED swap"  most people feel naked without tons of swap space...     i have no swap here.  and only 98m ram.   i don't do dvd's and things like that  but i don't have any trubble with this system.
[09:01] <ewood> Boot partitions just aren't sexy..
[09:01] <canllaith> you need swap if you want to use swsup
[09:01] <ethan> Ads_: fairly detailed I guess.  It will be used to monitor a webserver's / my networks network usage ;)
[09:01] <ethan> not too detailed...
[09:01] <ewood> ok.. trubble
[09:01] <ethan> Ads_: what did you have in mind?
[09:01] <Ads_> ethan: have you done a search for a list of network monitoring apps on your source list?
[09:02] <ethan> Ads_: yes, I'm having trouble using all of them
[09:02] <Ads_> ethan: i'm not really sure since I don't monitor my network...........sorry maybe someone else who does might be able to help
[09:02] <ethan> Ads_: weird documentation.  It assumes you have EVERYTHING setup when you usually don't.
[09:04] <dli__> strange, I have two swap partitions :(
[09:05] <dli__> ubuntu doesn't use two swap partitions, right?
[09:05] <ethan> Does anybody else have any experience with network-graphing tools like mrtg, rrd, snmp ?
[09:06] <ethan> eh?
[09:07] <phoenix_> Can some1 help me with problem of installing windows 2000?
[09:07] <Matic`Makovec> isn't this ubuntu channel ?
[09:07] <Matic`Makovec> phoenix_, you might wanna try join #windows or something
[09:07] <Morrowyn> phoenix_,  #windows
[09:07] <phoenix_> hmm right
[09:07] <Karmander> hi i need some help to install ubuntu
[09:07] <Morrowyn> didnt microsoft stop supporting windows 2000 this year?
[09:08] <Karmander> is it possible to install ubuntu from the hd??
[09:08] <Morrowyn> Karmander, dunno about that, i reckon so
[09:08] <SoulPropagation> How do I use the side buttons on my mouse? (e.g. the ones that go back and forward in ie/fx/ns/winfm on windows)
[09:08] <Matic`Makovec> SoulPropagation, i guess you use logitech mouse?
[09:09] <SoulPropagation> I believe so, but it's a MS branded one
[09:09] <SoulPropagation> IntelliMouse
[09:09] <MistaED> in 2007 "what you still use that old ancient XP? upgrade to vista"
[09:09] <Karmander> if i copy the .iso file to a slave hd can I install it in the master hd??
[09:09] <ewood> I've seen a Logitech with another brand on it, but Microsoft? I thought they always made their own.
[09:09] <Matic`Makovec> Karmander, you probably should burn the image
[09:09] <SoulPropagation> I dunno
[09:10] <SoulPropagation> It's your basic 5-button mouse
[09:10] <ewood> I say that stuff about old ancient XP in 2006..
[09:10] <SoulPropagation> BackLeftScrollyRightForward
[09:10] <Ads_> !help
[09:10] <ewood> But not the vista part
[09:10] <Morrowyn> Karmander, prolly, if you mount that hd , never done that though
[09:10] <Karmander> there is another way not burning it??
[09:10] <Matic`Makovec> SoulPropagation, hows with your inputdevice in xorg.conf ?
[09:11] <Karmander> i only need the .iso file for the installation??
[09:11] <Matic`Makovec> Karmander, yes.
[09:11] <SoulPropagation>         Option          "Device"                "/dev/input/mice"
[09:11] <SoulPropagation>         Option          "Protocol"              "ExplorerPS/2"
[09:11] <Karmander> how?
[09:12] <jdprc06> does anyone know how to get pop mail to work in thunderbird?
[09:12] <Karmander> i can't burn the cd now and I'm very needed to try ubuntu now
[09:12] <lig> How do I install vim o breazy badger for amd64?  I have tried to do the "Add Applications" but only get cream.
[09:12] <Morrowyn> lig, sudo apt-get install vim
[09:12] <Karmander> anybody can help me in private
[09:12] <Morrowyn> perhaps
[09:12] <SoulPropagation> Matic`Makovec: You're wrong, please stop advising Karmander ... the thing can't be a file
[09:13] <Karmander> what?
[09:13] <tonyyarusso> Morrowyn: I believe you are correct about W2000 support ending.  I know IE7 is a no-go on it.
[09:13] <Madpilot> lig, vim should be installed by default - try from the terminal
[09:13] <tonyyarusso> jdprc06: I've never had an issue with pop; what's the problem?
[09:13] <intelikey> hmmmm that's odd i installed xboard and gnuchess to make sure that ig-shoot-me  was getting his money's worth of this free help.   and found that most of the functions are grayed out in >mode    wonder why i can't tell the computer to play one or both sides  ?????
[09:13] <lig> Morrowyn, could not get alock /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[09:13] <jdprc06> i'm using pop.mail.yahoo.com, and it won't accept my password
[09:13] <viller> what was the key to open the dialog where I can type in a command to open an app?
[09:14] <Morrowyn> lig, close synaptic
[09:14] <Karmander> Matic`Makovec if you know another way to install ubuntu please tell me
[09:14] <lig> Madpilot, I have vi - but have not seen vim
[09:14] <Madpilot> lig, ah, OK
[09:14] <lig> Hmm
[09:14] <Matic`Makovec> Karmander, i don't. i installed it only with cd
[09:15] <intelikey> viller  alt+f2 in some desktops
[09:15] <meff> is there a command that will show me the status of my rc's ?
[09:15] <tonyyarusso> jdprc06: I don't think it's a pop/TB issue, maybe a yahoo one.  It's possible you need an extension or an extra package for Yahoo.  Have you looked at TB documentation for mentions of Yahoo?
[09:15] <viller> ok thanks intelikey
[09:15] <intelikey> viller it is wm/desktop specific
[09:15] <Karmander> ok somebody ever tried to install ubuntu from a secondary hd??
[09:15] <intelikey> :)
[09:15] <jdprc06> i didn't see any
[09:15] <vskye_> lig - vi is vim, do a man vi or man vim.
[09:16] <Ads_> Karmander, that's what I intend to do soon.
[09:16] <Morrowyn> Karmander, http://marc.herbert.free.fr/linux/win2linstall.html  you might wanna read this and see if it applies to ubuntu too?
[09:16] <Karmander> Ads_ really and is it possible?
[09:16] <intelikey> vukye  ls -l `which vi`
[09:17] <intelikey> :)
[09:17] <Karmander> Morrowyn thank you I appreciate it ;)
[09:17] <Morrowyn> welcome
[09:17] <Ads_> Karmander, I don't know yet, lol I think I am going to have some trouble when I try it. My secondary hdd is SATA and it might have problems me thinks
[09:17] <Morrowyn> i hope it works for you
[09:17] <tonyyarusso> jdprc06: Okay.  I saw yahoo2mbox and fetchyahoo in the repos; don't know if those apply to you or not.  Otherwise, after you've set up the password, have you tried closing and restarting TB?  None of mine worked right away when I saved to passwords in.
[09:18] <lig> Thank you everyone
[09:18] <C-O-L-T-AWAY> how to install skype?
[09:18] <tarheel> why is this an invalid command if the file is on your desktop
[09:18] <jdprc06> yes i've done it many times.  do you know if the secure connection would do anything?  it seems to search for yahoo forever if i enable it
[09:18] <tarheel> chmod a+x RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[09:18] <Morrowyn> C-O-L-T-AWAY, doesnt the install notes on the skype tell you how to do it ?
[09:19] <Ads_> Does anyone know how I can still boot into ubuntu without install the grub loader? I plan to have ubuntu on my secondary hdd but don't want to write anything on my primary
[09:19] <Akane`Mahoru> hellp
[09:19] <Akane`Mahoru> -p +o
[09:19] <C-O-L-T-AWAY> Morrowyn: no
[09:19] <Akane`Mahoru> i am french (but i don't find suport in the frech chan) and i have a problem. i can't upload any file
[09:19] <SoulPropagation> How do I set up a 5-button mouse to recognize the back and forward buttons
[09:20] <vskye_> C-O-L-T-AWAY - uh, go to the skype website and read?
[09:20] <Morrowyn> http://tntmax.com/content/view/176/60/  first hit in google
[09:20] <Akane`Mahoru> irc,http (download form a distant computer),ftp (upload and download)
[09:20] <p01n7> anyone know much about X server errors?
[09:20] <SoulPropagation> p01n7: try #xorg
[09:21] <intelikey> Ads_ what boot loader are you using now ?
[09:21] <Akane`Mahoru> there is anybody cho can help me, please ?
[09:22] <Akane`Mahoru> who*
[09:22] <Morrowyn> Akane`Mahoru, what is your problem ?
[09:22] <Ads_> intelikeys my pc doesn't have ubuntu atm
[09:22] <Akane`Mahoru>  i can't upload any file
[09:22] <Akane`Mahoru> irc,http (download form a distant computer),ftp (upload and download)
[09:22] <Ads_> intelikey*
[09:22] <intelikey> Ads_ so you are running what os ?
[09:22] <Ads_> intelikey: windows xp
[09:22] <p01n7> does anyone here run dapper?
[09:23] <SoulPropagation> p01n7: Me
[09:23] <Morrowyn> Ads_, windows doesnt recognize other os's as valid os's for their own bootmanager
[09:23] <SoulPropagation> p01n7: And yes, I have XGL/compiz
[09:23] <Ads_> intelikey: I have ubuntu on my laptop and love it so i want it on my pc too but on my secondary hdd which is a sata drive and i don't want to write any boot record info on my primary hdd
[09:23] <p01n7> has X ever crashed on you? mine says.. active ring not flushed
[09:23] <Morrowyn> you need lilo or grub in order to boot other os's if your primary os is windows
[09:23] <SoulPropagation> Or a chain..
[09:23] <Ads_> Morrowyn I know
[09:23] <SoulPropagation> p01n7: Nope
[09:24] <Morrowyn> Ads_, try reading up on installing grub not on the primary boot sector, but on the second hd, how to boot fromt hat
[09:24] <Akane`Mahoru> Morrowyn, an idea ?
[09:24] <intelikey> Ads_ i don't think you will get M$ windows to boot linux.  you might get M$ to kick off the mbr of the sata drive, but that is a M$ question, not a linux one.
[09:24] <Morrowyn> i dunno grub, but i reckon it should be possible, i remember lilo having that option
[09:24] <SoulPropagation> Ads_: you can overwrite the MBR and it's safe
[09:25] <SoulPropagation> Ads_: Wanna run XP? Hit the XP item in the boot menu and it fires up the XP bootloader
[09:25] <Morrowyn> Akane`Mahoru, basically you dont have internet access on your ubuntu box right/
[09:25] <Akane`Mahoru> i(ve a RTC conection
[09:25] <Morrowyn> Ads_, if you wanna get rid off the grub, just fdisk /mbr under windows and it boots just windows
[09:26] <Morrowyn> Akane`Mahoru, cant help you with rtc connections, sorry
[09:26] <Akane`Mahoru> and i can't upload file but i can speak on irc
[09:26] <Ads_> SoulPropagation: the thing is i want ubuntu on my seconary hdd, i want my windows hdd intact and always left the default to boot in priority 1 order if i ever want to boot into ubuntu can't i use a flpppy or cd or something? also how will grub know of an installaion of ubuntu on my secondary hdd when the loader is installed on the primary hdd o_O
[09:27] <Akane`Mahoru> "donc" (sorry i'm bad in english) i can upload.
[09:27] <Morrowyn> Ads_, thats what the parititon table is for
[09:27] <intelikey> Ads_ grub-floppy
[09:27] <Akane`Mahoru> i see, all upload stops "autour" 10kB
[09:27] <Ads_> Morrowyn: ok well i guess i can give it a shot
[09:28] <jdprc06> where can you view the space on your file system?
[09:28] <Morrowyn> Ads_, i have windows xp and ubuntu loading from grub, works nicely
[09:28] <Morrowyn> also on 2 different hd's btw
[09:28] <Morrowyn> :)
[09:28] <intelikey> Ads_ grub-cd  either will kickoff the sata drive yes.
[09:28] <Ads_> Morrowyn: i do too on my laptop
[09:28] <Morrowyn> and fdisk /mbr
[09:28] <Morrowyn> to reset your windows boot stuff if you want to
[09:28] <Morrowyn> kick off ubuntu
[09:28] <Morrowyn> and grub
[09:28] <Ads_> well it's good to know i can use fdisk /mbr is anything goes wrong so i guess i might delve into it
[09:29] <Morrowyn> :)
[09:29] <Ads_> i really want ubuntu on my pc too :D
[09:29] <Ads_> cos it roxxx
[09:29] <Morrowyn> uhuh, i know the feeling
[09:29] <intelikey> could even make a lilo boot disk if the ubuntu initrd wasn't so bloated.
[09:29] <Madpilot> jdprc06, one way is to type "df -h" in a terminal
[09:29] <jdprc06> thanks
[09:30] <natroll-> i've had windows wig out if my mbr isn't wiped before reinstalling it
[09:30] <welemski> does anyone knows where i can get a binary package of vlc?
[09:30] <Ads_> lol if i was somehow able to i'd install ubuntu on my toaster, microwave you name it lmfao
[09:30] <natroll-> or at least not containing the m$ bootloader
[09:30] <natroll-> welemski, it's not in the repos?
[09:30] <Morrowyn> i dislike the fact that windows only support ntfs and fat
[09:30] <intelikey> linux runs the dish washer
[09:31] <Ads_> well intelikey, morrowyn: wish me luck as i am about to install ubuntu to my pc too :D if all goes well i will be back here via my pc ....if not then my laptop LOL. adios for now
[09:31] <Morrowyn> gdluck
[09:31] <Ads_> ty
[09:31] <_ajopaul> :::::: is there any way to cd to a directory created by root using sudo instead of su ........ ???
[09:31] <intelikey> linux controls the clothes dryer
[09:31] <Morrowyn> _ajopaul, sudo cd ....
[09:31] <Madpilot> _ajopaul, you shouldn't need to use sudo at all when you're just using cd
[09:32] <_ajopaul> Morrowyn
[09:32] <_ajopaul> cd command not found..
[09:32] <Morrowyn> Madpilot, doesnt it depend on the perms , say 500 on a root'd dir
[09:32] <natroll-> ....
[09:32] <intelikey> Madpilot unless it's  /root
[09:32] <natroll-> intelikey, i can cd into /root
[09:32] <_ajopaul> Madpilot, the root hasn given permission for any others to even view it..
[09:32] <intelikey> cant here
[09:32] <kev_> anyone ever set up a vpn connection to an microsoft vpn server? i'm having trouble getting pptp and pptpconfig to work: it complains that launching the call manager has failed.
[09:32] <Madpilot> yeah, I guess it would depend on the exact permissions - sorry, it's late here :P
[09:32] <natroll-> intelikey, strange
[09:33] <_ajopaul> dont like su ..
[09:33] <Morrowyn> do a ls -l on /root
[09:33] <natroll-> i think you need execute permissions on the folder to enter it
[09:33] <Morrowyn> see if group or world has +r+x rights
[09:33] <intelikey> natroll- not really.    Morrowyn  000
[09:34] <natroll-> intelikey, i'm mistaken then
[09:34] <_ajopaul> nope its drwx-------
[09:34] <Morrowyn> root is disabled by defaultf on ubuntu, you have to enable it manually
[09:34] <intelikey> not if you are root that is.   any user must have exec
[09:34] <natroll-> intelikey, yeah :)
[09:34] <welemski> is there a way where i can install a debian application without using the apt-get and get connected to the internet? like precompiled binaries for vlc?
[09:34] <intelikey> sorry the timming was bad.   i said not really to "<natroll-> intelikey, strange"
[09:34] <natroll-> welemski, dpkg -i packagename
[09:34] <welemski> yes i know...
[09:34] <_ajopaul> i can enter using su, but wanted to using sudo ..
[09:35] <welemski> but is there any vlc packages ready for download?
[09:35] <martin> yeah
[09:35] <Morrowyn> sudo apt-cache search vlc  ?
[09:35] <welemski> os x / windows are the only packages available for download
[09:35] <baquero22> i need help
[09:35] <welemski> the rest are source codes...
[09:36] <baquero22> i just installed the itouch support to the xmms
[09:36] <baquero22> and now is not opening
[09:36] <baquero22> i have this message
[09:36] <intelikey> welemski it's in the repos
[09:36] <baquero22> ~$ xmms
[09:36] <baquero22> libmikmod.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:36] <baquero22> Message: device: default
[09:36] <baquero22> Gdk-ERROR **: BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied)
[09:36] <baquero22>   serial 8 error_code 10 request_code 33 minor_code 0
[09:36] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[09:36] <Morrowyn> use the debian package and dpkg -i it
[09:36] <natroll-> baquero22, use pastebin
[09:36] <Madpilot> !+pastebin
[09:36] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar , or *Please*, after you use the pastebin, link the channel to the specific paste. Thanks!
[09:36] <Morrowyn> or apt-cache it , see if its in the rep
[09:36] <natroll-> baquero22, http://rafb.net
[09:37] <intelikey> !info vlc
[09:37] <Morrowyn> baquero22, you need libmikmod
[09:37] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.4-svn20050920-3+hal0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 5817 kB, Installed size: 13740 kB
[09:37] <natroll-> baquero22, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:37] <Morrowyn> oops sorry
[09:37] <Morrowyn> nvm
[09:37] <baquero22> thats all i need???
[09:38] <Morrowyn> no, if you installed xmms/itouch from apt-get, it should be there
[09:38] <Morrowyn> you mgiht wanna check  ; ldd xmms
[09:38] <r3tex> what is that cool gnome app that ubuntu has that lets you configure your network called?
[09:38] <Morrowyn> to see if xmms does really find all the dependencies libs
[09:38] <Morrowyn> r3tex, how do you mean?
[09:39] <welemski> i don't have a vlc in my reps....
[09:39] <r3tex> Morrowyn: the tool to configure network options. it doesn't seem to be a part of the standard gnome, but ubuntu has it in its menu :P
[09:40] <Morrowyn> welemski, make sure you have certain repos opened up , edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment some reps there
[09:40] <kev_> anyone had issues with pptp-linux package and glibc complaining about double frees?
[09:40] <Morrowyn> oh, i have no idea, i always
[09:40] <welemski>  i just want to install the binary pack of vlc without going through the apt-get... i don't have a very fast internet connection at home...
[09:40] <Morrowyn> do it manually
[09:40] <welemski> i want to use dpkg -i
[09:41] <Morrowyn> through ifconfig or the distro inet.conf files
[09:41] <welemski> but i only downloaded the source code...
[09:41] <r3tex> Morrowyn: i was thinking more for the wireless config part
[09:41] <welemski> do you have a binary pack for vlc?
[09:41] <Morrowyn> uhm
[09:41] <welemski> :D
[09:41] <r3tex> wlassistant is a bit of a hassle
[09:41] <Morrowyn> i did that manully
[09:41] <r3tex> ok
[09:41] <Phlosten> welemski, download all the dependant .deb package files and put them into your apt-get cache directory
[09:42] <welemski> next?
[09:42] <Morrowyn> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[09:42] <Morrowyn> you might wanna read that one
[09:42] <baquero22> i just install that thing
[09:42] <Phlosten> welemski, then runs synaptic and it will find the files before it downloads them
[09:42] <baquero22> libmikmod2
[09:42] <natroll-> welemski, download the package manually from the repositories and make sure you have all the dependencies
[09:42] <baquero22> and my xmms still not opening
[09:43] <Morrowyn> it looks like either a perm setting or the lib is broken
[09:43] <baquero22> i cannot sleep if my xmms is not playing
[09:43] <Morrowyn> run from nautilus
[09:43] <Morrowyn> perhaps, that one has abuilt in mp3 thingy or something
[09:44] <anubis_> how to remove the Debian menu?
[09:44] <Morrowyn> right click the menu thing, edit menu
[09:44] <Morrowyn> and do your thing
[09:45] <welemski> natroll-, you mean i have to download all the stuff in http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/debian/i386 ?
[09:45] <anubis_> I'm not using Gnome
[09:45] <natroll-> welemski, no
[09:45] <baquero22> so how to reinstall the xmms???
[09:45] <Morrowyn> anubis_,  what wm?
[09:45] <anubis_> there is a package I can remove
[09:45] <baquero22> cuz i reinstalled it but have the same problem
[09:45] <anubis_> Xfce
[09:45] <Morrowyn> hmmm, never used it
[09:45] <garydfgsdfgse> hello im having trouble with my ndiswrapper it seems to install perfect but still error
[09:45] <Morrowyn> you prolly needed coffee for this right ;)
[09:45] <baquero22> Message: device: default
[09:45] <baquero22> Gdk-ERROR **: BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied)
[09:45] <baquero22>   serial 8 error_code 10 request_code 33 minor_code 0
[09:45] <baquero22> thats my mess
[09:46] <natroll-> welemski, http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/breezy
[09:46] <Morrowyn> baquero22, you installed from synaptic/apt-get
[09:46] <_ajopaul> ::::::::: phew!! gotit Morrowyn, Madpilot  its sudo sh -c "cd dirname"
[09:46] <baquero22> yes synaptic
[09:46] <welemski> ok
[09:46] <garydfgsdfgse> anyone know about ndiswrapper and how to get it working
[09:46] <rysiek|pl> !ndiswrapper
[09:46] <ubotu> [ndiswrapper]  a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[09:46] <Morrowyn> _ajopaul, you might wanna edit sudoers and add "cd" to it
[09:47] <garydfgsdfgse> yes ive read it a thousand times
[09:47] <baquero22> noone?
[09:47] <Morrowyn> saves you doiung a shellscript
[09:47] <natroll-> welemski, wrong one, my bad
[09:47] <welemski> that's ok
[09:47] <baquero22> im gonna reinstall all the xmms stuff
[09:47] <welemski> :D
[09:47] <baquero22> thats it
[09:47] <_ajopaul> alrite!!
[09:47] <garydfgsdfgse> im sure i did everything right this isnt the first time ive installed it
[09:47] <garydfgsdfgse> its the first time in drapper...
[09:47] <natroll-> welemski, http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/v/vlc/
[09:47] <Morrowyn> im off
[09:47] <Morrowyn> cya all
[09:48] <natroll-> by Morrowyn
[09:48] <natroll-> bye*
[09:48] <garydfgsdfgse> when i type iwconfig it identifies my wifi card but say access point: Invalid
[09:48] <welemski> where did you get that link ? it has al the debian binaries already...
[09:49] <natroll-> welemski, in /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:49] <welemski> aw.. ok
[09:49] <welemski> toinks
[09:49] <natroll-> welemski, it's the repository that apt-get downloads from
[09:49] <jdprc06> i have a dual boot, with xp using ntfs, but i want to be able to listen to my music on ubuntu that is stored in my windows partition
[09:49] <jdprc06> how do i enable read access
[09:50] <welemski> thanks... many many
[09:50] <natroll-> welemski, np
[09:50] <natroll-> jdprc06, did you mount your windows partition?  mine works right outta the box
[09:50] <Dr_Fate> I just need to remove a package to make this "Debian Menu" go away please?
[09:50] <jdprc06> i don't know anything about mounting it.  that's why i'm here haha
[09:51] <natroll-> Dr_Fate, debian menu?
[09:51] <jdprc06> i think i found it in the unofficial guide though
[09:51] <Dr_Fate> natroll-, yes
[09:51] <jdprc06> you only use read only?
[09:51] <natroll-> jdprc06, 'cat /etc/fstab' and paste it in http://rafb.net/paste
[09:51] <natroll-> jdprc06, that is correct
[09:51] <Dr_Fate> after I installed Fluxbox I have a Debeina submenu with debian submenus
[09:51] <natroll-> jdprc06, unless you're brave and want to hose your system
[09:52] <Dr_Fate> I want to get rid of this
[09:52] <jdprc06> no i'm good haha
[09:52] <natroll-> Dr_Fate, are you in gnome now?
[09:52] <Dr_Fate> no
[09:53] <natroll-> Dr_Fate, then i really don't know how to help you then.
[09:53] <Dr_Fate> ok I'm in Gnome
[09:53] <Dr_Fate> doe sthat help?
[09:53] <jdprc06> is this perl i'm pasting?
[09:53] <Dr_Fate> its not a smeg issue
[09:53] <natroll-> Dr_Fate, no, i was gonna tell you to use smeg, which is for editing the menu in gnome
[09:54] <natroll-> Dr_Fate, google fluxbox menu editing
[09:54] <baquero22> agg
[09:54] <natroll-> Dr_Fate, or fluxbox desktop customization
[09:54] <baquero22> my xmms still not working
[09:54] <baquero22> noome can help me?
[09:54] <natroll-> Dr_Fate, or something like that
[09:56] <lars__> need tla, but how do i get it installed?
[09:56] <lars__> can't find it
[09:56] <lars__> i'm using the latest beta
[09:56] <Kream> Hi all
[09:57] <natroll-> g'nite people
[09:57] <Kream> Can someone tell me of a repository where I can find w32codecs ? I tried the PLF one at deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free but it doesn't seem to have w32codecs
[09:58] <welemski> nite...
[09:58] <natroll-sleeping> Kream, don't know how much help you'll find for that here....
[09:58] <sekhar> hey
[09:59] <sekhar> how to give permission to other than root to access the hda1,hda2,... dreives
[09:59] <Kream> natroll-sleeping:  thanks, could you point me to where I should go for help on this ?
[10:00] <Kream> sekhar:  read the fstab manual - you'll have to mount the drive with the option user(s)
[10:00] <sekhar> fstab manual??
[10:00] <Kream> sekhar:  man fstab
[10:01] <sekhar> kream wat is fstab?
[10:02] <rysiek|pl> sekhar: do (in Konsole): man fstab
[10:02] <Kream> sekhar:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fstab
[10:02] <baquero22> how to reinstall the xmms??
[10:03] <Matic`Makovec> apt-get remove xmms
[10:03] <Matic`Makovec> and then again apt-get install xmms ?
[10:03] <haffe> Hello. Anyone who would like to help me with my problem? lspci for my graphics card gives "Memory at 41000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=16M] " yet in Xorg0.log I find "(WW) ATI(0): DRI static buffer allocation failed -- need at least 7680 kB video memory"
[10:03] <jdprc06> does anyone have experience with ntfs mounting?
[10:04] <haffe> Yes.
[10:04] <haffe> Somewhat.
[10:04] <rysiek|pl> jdprc06: yep
[10:05] <rysiek|pl> jdprc06: do you need read and write, or will only read suffice?
[10:06] <Kream> Can someone tell me of a repository where I can find w32codecs ? I tried the PLF one at deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free but it doesn't seem to have w32codecs
[10:06] <baquero22> yes yes
[10:06] <baquero22> i remove the xmms
[10:06] <baquero22> and reinstall it
[10:06] <baquero22> still not working....
[10:06] <jolly_> hello iam trying to compile my own kernel, but when i do "make menuconfig" its says that i need ncurses-devel to be runned.. I tried to install that package with aptiude but its still complains
[10:06] <jolly_> any tips?
[10:06] <haffe> What are the complaints?
[10:06] <NewUSER> I need help
[10:06] <baquero22> Message: device: default
[10:06] <baquero22> Gdk-ERROR **: BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied)
[10:06] <baquero22>   serial 8 error_code 10 request_code 33 minor_code 0
[10:06] <Madpilot> Kream, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-fda9cc5147253891fe3047263b82d787ab025bba
[10:07] <NewUSER> Wit ubuntu
[10:07] <baquero22> thats the damn error i get
[10:07] <TheBigDot> Hello! I am on a Live CD and I was wondering how I can make a swap partition without affecting my existing partion that contains Ubuntu.
[10:07] <Kream> thanks, madpilot... i'm currently downloading the w32codecs deb from ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/ubuntu/pool/main/w/w32codecs/
[10:07] <welemski> yeah... that's a good question
[10:07] <baquero22> noome help me???
[10:08] <NewUSER> Need help connecting to the net
[10:08] <TheBigDot> Anyone?
[10:08] <rysiek|pl> NewUSER: what's the problem?
[10:08] <jdprc06> my fstab does not list my hda1 (my windows partition) at all
[10:08] <Kream> NewUSER:  hi. how are you currently connected to the net ?
[10:09] <Tortanick> hi
[10:09] <TheBigDot> Does anyone know how to make a swap partition?!
[10:09] <Tortanick> easy
[10:09] <jolly_> mkswapon
[10:09] <jdprc06> can i just add it to the fstab?
[10:09] <Matic`Makovec> TheBigDot, you could do it with cfdisk
[10:09] <jolly_> mkswap
[10:09] <jolly_> :)
[10:09] <Tortanick> or gparted
[10:09] <Matic`Makovec> i mean..the partition
[10:09] <Matic`Makovec> then mkswap and swapon
[10:09] <jolly_> mkswap /dev/blabla
[10:10] <jolly_> :-)
[10:10] <TheBigDot> Jolly_, will it format anything on my old partition?
[10:10] <Tortanick> gparted is like fdisk but has a GUI
[10:10] <Matic`Makovec> yep, sth like jolly_ said
[10:10] <Tortanick> if you get the Live CD of Gparted
[10:10] <TheBigDot> It won't format anything?
[10:11] <TheBigDot> I don't want my Ubuntu partition fried because of this.
[10:11] <TheBigDot> So are you guys sure?
[10:11] <Tortanick> not sure about fdisk, I don't think Gparted will
[10:11] <Tortanick> didn't format anything when I used it
[10:11] <TheBigDot> Tortanick, so you are saying that Gparted won't format?
[10:12] <TheBigDot> Good. Thank you!!! :)
[10:12] <Tortanick> I'm saying it probobly won't format
[10:12] <TheBigDot> Will it warn me if there is going to be any formatting?
[10:12] <jdprc06> i got it to work
[10:13] <jdprc06> this is amazing
[10:13] <jdprc06> thanks
[10:13] <Tortanick> It would be a very bad program if it did
[10:13] <Tortanick> I'm looking it up now
[10:13] <tarheel> finally
[10:13] <TheBigDot> Tarheel, finally what?
[10:13] <Tortanick> it can shrink a ext3 partition
[10:14] <TheBigDot> Yay!!! :)
[10:14] <Tortanick> just one thing
[10:14] <sekhar> nope i didnt ythe way to give permissions to other users to browse hda1,hda2 etc
[10:14] <Tortanick> if you can't unmount any of your partitions
[10:14] <TheBigDot> What?
[10:14] <NewUSER> Hi ppl. Im new to ubuntu,is there anyone who could help me setup my internet connection and modem
[10:14] <TheBigDot> That's fine.
[10:14] <Tortanick> you'll need to use a gparted live CDE
[10:14] <Tortanick> CD*
[10:14] <NewUSER> Private me plz
[10:14] <TheBigDot> I am using a Live CD
[10:14] <Tortanick> ok then
[10:14] <Tortanick> that should work :)
[10:14] <TheBigDot> Knoppix.
[10:14] <TheBigDot> Although my mouse froze. :'(
[10:15] <Tortanick> hmm, I'm not sure how gparted would work with a LiveCD version of linux
[10:15] <Tortanick> I'd assumed you had installed linux to the HD
[10:15] <TheBigDot> 				I did.
[10:16] <TheBigDot> I am using Knoppix as my Live CD.
[10:16] <Tortanick> oh
[10:16] <Tortanick> well when I said live CD
[10:16] <welemski> is this channel being logged?
[10:16] <Tortanick> I ment the Gparted Live CD
[10:16] <TheBigDot> Why?
[10:16] <sekhar> any body please help me how to give permission to users to browse the contents of ntfs file system hd1,2,3...
[10:16] <TheBigDot> Where can I get that?
[10:16] <Tortanick> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/download.php
[10:16] <welemski> so.. i may search for other previous solutions that has been posted here...
[10:16] <Tortanick> I have to go AFK for a sec
[10:16] <Tortanick> hopefully not long
[10:16] <welemski> toinks
[10:17] <TheBigDot> Bye!!! Thank you!!! :)
[10:17] <NewUSER> Who knows how to setup an internet connection using ubuntu live
[10:17] <malv> i tried dapper... lots of problems.
[10:17] <TheBigDot> exit
[10:17] <NewUSER> ?
[10:18] <welemski> does anyone of has a full txt log on this channel using their favorite irc client... it could be usefull for knowledge base...
[10:19] <Tortanick> anyway I have a question
[10:19] <Tortanick> where dose PureFTP actually store the files?
[10:19] <Tortanick> I mean the files you want to transfur
[10:19] <NewUSER> :-) i have a question too
[10:20] <NewUSER> hOW DO I connect to the net using ubuntu
[10:20] <Tortanick> it should have automatically configured your connection NewUSER
[10:20] <Tortanick> you conect to the net with firefox
[10:20] <Madpilot> welemski, this channel is logged already at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/
[10:20] <welemski> hehehehehehehe
[10:21] <welemski> thanks...
[10:21] <Tortanick> it should be on the top of your screen, a picture of the earth
[10:21] <NewUSER> The fire fox is there, m using a windows modem
[10:21] <NewUSER> But i dont no how to dial out
[10:22] <NewUSER> Or setup my modem like i normally would in windows
[10:22] <welemski> you have to configure the modem...
[10:22] <Tortanick> I don't know about modems, over to you welemski
[10:22] <NewUSER> Ok how?
[10:22] <Madpilot> !+winmodem
[10:22] <ubotu> [winmodem]  To get started with winmodems on linux, see http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/
[10:22] <Madpilot> !+modem
[10:22] <ubotu> modem is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[10:22] <welemski> :D
[10:22] <Madpilot> NewUSER, check those two URLs out ^^^
[10:22] <dli__> NewUSER, winmodem is bad luck
[10:22] <NewUSER> Thanks.:-)
[10:23] <dli__> NewUSER, what's the modem? in lspci
[10:23] <NewUSER> No idea its a winmodem
[10:23] <BillyJoejimbob> but if you are using a conextant softmodem won't you have to pay for the drivers?
[10:24] <NewUSER> Its a conexant
[10:24] <BillyJoejimbob> oh bummer
[10:24] <BillyJoejimbob> hang on let me get the page to go to newuser
[10:24] <dli__> NewUSER, the linuxant bastards charge $19.99 for a driver license
[10:25] <sekhar> how to give permiossion to user to access ntfs
[10:25] <Tortanick> so dose anyone here know about Pure-FTP?
[10:26] <NewUSER> :-( i really love using linux even tho m still learning. My only dilema is the internet
[10:26] <dli__> NewUSER, I just bought an external modem for $19.95 CAN, after being disgusted by linuxant
[10:27] <dli__> NewUSER, you may want to have a look, it's an actiontec EX560LKU serial/USB modem, I'm using it now, so I know it works in linux
[10:28] <[Leo] > hi
[10:28] <locomorto> hey Leo
[10:29] <locomorto> btw, I thought the dapper delay was confirmed?
[10:29] <NewUSER> What books are good to buy to get round ubuntu linux
[10:29] <[Leo] > daper delay?
[10:29] <[Leo] > what delay?
[10:29] <Madpilot> NewUSER, there aren't any specific Ubuntu books yet
[10:29] <fluxt> there are books for ubuntu?
[10:29] <fluxt> ahh
[10:29] <NewUSER> :-( any suggestions
[10:29] <Dewi> [Leo] : somebody in the last few days said "6 more weeks"
[10:30] <Madpilot> There's a bunch coming, though, when Dapper is released
[10:30] <fluxt> NewUSER: google is good
[10:30] <Dewi> [Leo] : which by my calendar would make it 6.05 instead of 604
[10:30] <locomorto> NewUSER: You can however read the www.ubuntuforums.org forums
[10:30] <Dewi> [Leo] : ohwait
[10:30] <Madpilot> NewUSER, wiki.ubuntu.com & in your own Ubuntu install, System menu -> Help
[10:30] <Dewi> [Leo] : actually it wouldn't. close though :)
[10:30] <locomorto> I think its July/June the 1st (whichever comes first, I get mixed up)
[10:30] <BillyJoejimbob> newuser go to this page: http://www.linmodems.org/ that should help you with the driver you will need for your system
[10:30] <Madpilot> Dewi, 6.06 now
[10:30] <Dewi> Madpilot: really?
[10:30] <BillyJoejimbob> and yes you might have to pay for it
[10:30] <NewUSER> :-( ya but i cant get onto to internet to go an read, im using my mobile to irc to get help
[10:30] <[Leo] > 6.06...?
[10:30] <[Leo] > :(
[10:31] <NewUSER> Last question
[10:31] <[Leo] > but why?
[10:31] <locomorto> [Leo] : As I understand, most of the work is going into polish
[10:31] <NewUSER> Ppl, i no im a nag
[10:31] <BillyJoejimbob> go ahead newuser
[10:31] <[Leo] > mmm
[10:32] <[Leo] > so just wait...
[10:32] <locomorto> It should be stable enough if you don't mind taking a risk (ie not a buisness ;))
[10:32] <NewUSER> Wt the command to mount an ntfs drive
[10:32] <[Leo] > locomorto: i'm on a dapper now
[10:32] <[Leo] > i trust unstable ubuntu versions too
[10:32] <[Leo] > :)
[10:32] <gyaresu> NewUSER, man mount
[10:32] <PsyberOne> I use dapper everyday, there doing some UI polishing and QA work to make sure dapper shines as a major release
[10:32] <Dewi> Madpilot/locomorto: I'm currently trying to decide whether to install dapper or breezy for my *grandmother* (she can't really justify buying windows and it should be mainly firefox and openoffice usage I think)
[10:33] <C-O-L-T> how to install skype
[10:33] <C-O-L-T> There are some dependencies
[10:33] <C-O-L-T> what to instal
[10:33] <Dewi> C-O-L-T: the dependancies, presumably
[10:33] <Tortanick> I'm going to setup pure FTP and I would Like to know where the files ( the ones I'm going to transfure, not config or anything) are kept. anyone know?
[10:33] <welemski> you can download a static binary for skype
[10:33] <C-O-L-T> Dewi: how to install those dependencies
[10:33] <Madpilot> Dewi, go with Breezy, and upgrade her when Dapper is final
[10:33] <[Leo] > Dewi: dapper is almost sbale
[10:33] <[Leo] > *stable
[10:33] <Dewi> yeah... but I wonder how the upgrade is likely to go
[10:34] <Dewi> oh, wait a minute, we're using dpkg. Upgrade should be fine :P
[10:34] <Dewi> right?
[10:34] <PsyberOne> from what I've heard it's OK at this point
[10:34] <Dewi> or am I being overconfident?
[10:34] <Madpilot> Dewi, dist-upgrade is generally painless
[10:34] <locomorto> Dewi: well there could be some problems upgrading (from dapper to dapper-final)
[10:34] <fluxt> you can never be too overconfident!
[10:34] <BillyJoejimbob> backup everything first dewi just in case
[10:34] <Dewi> locomorto: I mean from breezy to dapper final
[10:34] <locomorto> Dewi: going from breezy to dapper-final should be fine though
[10:34] <PsyberOne> there may be a few manual ops needed but overall good
[10:34] <C-O-L-T> How to install skype dependencies\?
[10:35] <misterii> I can't bittorrent in Xubuntu (BT crashed) how do 'I do it in console?
[10:35] <Dewi> locomorto / [Leo]  / Madpilot : yeah, I'll stick with breezy for now. Thanks!
[10:36] <misterii> *kill
[10:36] <misterii> I cant KILL bittorrent even
[10:36] <Matic`Makovec> i have two rows of some text
[10:37] <Matic`Makovec> what command should i use and how so i could add something to the second one keeping both as they are
[10:37] <Matic`Makovec> well second with this word which i'd add.
[10:37] <baquero22> i just configured my mouse MX700 and i restarted the computer and the buttoms changed again.... then in the terminal y wrote this
[10:37] <[Leo] > misterii: try kill -9 <pid_of_bt>
[10:37] <baquero22> #!/bin/sh
[10:37] <baquero22> exec xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3 6 7 4 5" &
[10:37] <baquero22> exec imwheel -k -b "67" &
[10:37] <baquero22> exec $REALSTARTUP
[10:37] <Matic`Makovec> i have a feeling that sed could do it but i'm not really good in bash scripting
[10:37] <baquero22> but do i have to to that each time i restart my computer???
[10:39] <misterii> [Leo] , <pid_of_bt>? as is?
[10:39] <Matic`Makovec> look at ps x
[10:39] <[Leo] > misterii: the PID of BT process
[10:39] <Matic`Makovec> you have row with pids there
[10:39] <[Leo] > misterii: ps aux | grep bittorrent
[10:40] <Matic`Makovec> and then look the number next to proces you want to kill and kill it with kill -9 pidnum
[10:40] <misterii> what does pid mean?
[10:40] <Matic`Makovec> process id
[10:40] <[Leo] > pid = process id
[10:40] <revolutionary> hey
[10:42] <misterii> which is the pid here? misteri   9029  0.0  1.2   3168   756 pts/0    S+   11:40   0:00 grep bittorrent
[10:42] <BillyJoejimbob> how do i make opera the default browser. so that whenever i clink on a link in tbird etc it opens opera instead of firefox/
[10:43] <[Leo] > misterii: pid = 9029
[10:44] <misterii> [Leo] , it says that the process does not exist
[10:44] <revolutionary> attention ! attention !
[10:44] <baquero22> hey i download ubuntu like a week ago
[10:44] <misterii> xDDD
[10:44] <baquero22> and my radar map is not working
[10:44] <baquero22> would be nice to make it work again
[10:44] <Frogzoo> revolutionary:  zzzzzzzzz........
[10:45] <baquero22> guys.. lets talk about my radar map
[10:45] <revolutionary> World Wide Demonstrations Sat Mar. 18 Oppose Bush's Oil Wars!!! Move on The capital in your area!
[10:46] <[Leo] > misterii: yep! it doesn't exists
[10:46] <[Leo] > do you know the name of bittorrent process?
[10:46] <heyjoe2> hi, ubuntu seems to be taken a lot of time to load up, much longer than windows, stalling particularly on the raid devices. how do i speed it up and save those features
[10:46] <[Leo] > which bt client are you using?
[10:46] <Frogzoo> BillyJoejimbob: sys -> prefs -> preffered applications -> web browswer
[10:46] <misterii> bittorrent
[10:47] <misterii> thats the name IMHO
[10:47] <BillyJoejimbob> thanks frogzoo
[10:47] <misterii> its the default-app I'm using
[10:47] <[Leo] > misterii: are you using azureus, or something else?
[10:47] <[Leo] > gnome bittorrent client?
[10:47] <misterii> yes
[10:47] <misterii> GBC
[10:48] <heyjoe2> hi, ubuntu seems to be taken a lot of time to load up, much longer than windows, stalling particularly on the raid devices. could someone tell me how to speed it up and save that process?
[10:50] <SysFail> Does anybody have an up to date site for installing sun java JRE on 5.10 ??
[10:50] <Madpilot> !java
[10:50] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:51] <Madpilot> SysFail, ^^^
[10:52] <SysFail> E: Couldn't find package java-package
[10:52] <SysFail> thats been my problem
[10:52] <SysFail> was it removed?
[10:52] <SysFail> man i hate sun
[10:53] <SysFail> i have backports and everything else enabled
[10:54] <Frogzoo> SysFail: see ubotu ^^^^
[10:54] <heyjoe2> hi, ubuntu seems to be taken a lot of time to load up, much longer than windows, stalling particularly on the raid devices. could someone tell me how to speed it up and save that process?
[10:54] <SysFail> I did frog...thats why i pasted that error
[10:55] <Madpilot> !info java-package
[10:55] <ubotu> java-package: (utility for building Java(TM) 2 related Debian packages), section multiverse/misc, is optional. Version: 0.26 (breezy), Packaged size: 20 kB, Installed size: 308 kB
[10:55] <baquero22> how to make my radar map work???
[10:55] <Madpilot> SysFail, you probably need to enable the Universe/Multiverse repositories
[10:55] <SysFail> im sure multiverse is enabled too
[10:55] <SysFail> let me double check
[10:55] <neo911> hey i remember i added a line to some file somewhere to make my emacs have color coding... but cant remember... does anyone remember doing the same? thanks
[10:56] <Madpilot> SysFail, compare your sources.list to this one: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[10:57] <neo911> anyone know why the DNS entries in the Network Monitor would time out? mine does and always replaces the entries with my gateway's address
[10:59] <SysFail> that did it...ill be damn...it was my sources.list..thanks madpilot
[11:00] <Madpilot> SysFail, np
[11:00] <SysFail> now to setup galleon :)
[11:01] <VladimirBG> can someone please help me remove bootloader from MBR so I can boot into Win? I installed ubuntu on unpartitioned space beside windows partition, formating is not an option!
[11:01] <VladimirBG> I use ubuntu 5.10 with lilo
[11:01] <jjs0ah> VladimirBG: insert windows/dos boot disk. fdisk /mbr
[11:02] <VladimirBG> jjs0ah, and that's all?
[11:02] <jjs0ah> VladimirBG: that easy
[11:02] <linuxboyfriend> hi all
[11:02] <linuxboyfriend> i have many kernel installed, how can remove some of them?
[11:03] <raed> ...with synaptic
[11:04] <linuxboyfriend> raed, hmm lemme check
[11:04] <VladimirBG> one more question, when I started live ubuntu, it was working great, but the installed version keps giving me trouble, like refusing to open networking, and similar services, and neither one can see my win partition? with mandriva I could do that, and in knoppix too...
[11:04] <raed> at boottime you see a list of your choices
[11:04] <VladimirBG> what could be wrong?
[11:05] <jolly_> hello iam trying to compile my own kernel, but when i do "make menuconfig" its says that i need ncurses-devel to be runned.. I tried to install that package with aptiude but its still complains
[11:05] <raed> and you can safely unistall the oldest kernels with synaptic
[11:05] <jolly_> the reason for iam trying to compile my own kernel is because of my soundcard :/
[11:05] <jolly_> I dont get any sound
[11:05] <jolly_> everything looks fine
[11:06] <jolly_> but  i still got no sound:/
[11:06] <H0lyD4wg> will it cause problems if i upgrade straight from hoary to dapper without going through breezy first?
[11:07] <Madpilot> H0lyD4wg, probably :P
[11:08] <Madpilot> Hoary -> Breezy -> Dapper would proably be safer
[11:08] <linuxboyfriend> raed, thnnks
[11:08] <Toma-> jolly_: can you try the dapper live cd?
[11:09] <neo911> anyone know why the DNS entries in the Network Monitor would time out? mine does and always replaces the entries with my gateway's address
[11:09] <raed> np
[11:10] <Tortanick> whats the minimum size for a root partition?
[11:10] <moret> hi all
[11:10] <Matic`Makovec> neo911, manually edit /etc/resolv.conf with nameserver your.ip.of.nameserver
[11:10] <moret> I'm looking for amule daemon integrated with ubuntu system
[11:10] <Matic`Makovec> Tortanick, well as much as you need..
[11:11] <Matic`Makovec> moret, tried apt-get install amule?
[11:11] <neo911> Matic`Makovec yes the entries are there
[11:11] <moret> Matic`Makovec: amule package has not daemon
[11:11] <moret> at init.d
[11:11] <Tortanick> I plan to have a combined FTP and Mail server
[11:11] <Matic`Makovec> moret, oh, that
[11:11] <Matic`Makovec> moret, that's something i don't know.
[11:11] <Tortanick> so I want to keep them on seprate partitions
[11:11] <Matic`Makovec> you could crontab it maybe.
[11:11] <H0lyD4wg> Madpilot, thanks, i'll just d/l a dapper cd then.
[11:11] <Tortanick> but it says it needs a root partition
[11:12] <Tortanick> so whats the minimum for that?
[11:12] <Matic`Makovec> Tortanick, well if you will use ubuntu only for web and mail
[11:12] <Matic`Makovec> you could give to root as much as 5gb
[11:12] <Matic`Makovec> not more.
[11:12] <Tortanick> 5gb, thanks
[11:12] <Matic`Makovec> there isn't any minimal actuall afaik
[11:13] <Madpilot> Tortanick, for just a server install (no GUI) I think Ubuntu takes up less than 1Gb - so a root partition of 2 or 3Gb might be possible, if space is tight
[11:15] <misterii> I downloaded and installed sk@le but when starting the skale.x86 it doesn't do a thing... anyone know why?
[11:16] <jolly_> Toma- sure whwre do i get that?
[11:16] <Tortanick> space isn't tight (and I'm installing Gnome), I just didn't know how much to give to the root partition
[11:16] <Toma-> jolly_: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/flight5
[11:16] <Tortanick> one more question though
[11:16] <misterii> it says its executing it, but I can see skale GUI
[11:16] <jolly_> ok
[11:16] <jolly_> :)
[11:17] <Tortanick> for the FTP files (the ones I transfure not config files) what mount point to I use, I'm useing PureFTP
[11:17] <Frogzoo> Tortanick: really depends on what you want to have on /
[11:17] <Toma-> jolly_: i found the kernel in flight 5 worked great for me. if that doesnt work, then theres no point updating the kernel. also, if it doesnt work, file a bug ;) and if it does work, then try updating the kernel
[11:17] <jolly_> what is the diffrent between livecd and the orginal ubuntu?
[11:17] <baquero22> As root, issue a python setup.py install.
[11:17] <baquero22> what is that issue a python??
[11:18] <neo911> im using badger and i don't know why my network monitor always replaces the DNS entries.  the /etc/resolv.conf file contains the correct entries but once the DNS entry in network monitor gets replaced my my routers ip i can't connect to internet anymore... i think this usually happens when my machine is idle (network wise)
[11:18] <Toma-> jolly_: livecd runs from the cd, original recipie needs to be installed
[11:18] <Frogzoo> jolly_: live cd runs off the cd & because of that, it's rather limited in what it can do
[11:18] <HappyFool> baquero22: that means run the command 'python setup.py' -- 'as root' means you need to run it using sudo
[11:18] <Toma-> neo911: check for any 'odd' things in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[11:19] <baquero22> oki thanks
[11:19] <Toma-> bbl.
[11:19] <nem-> :]
[11:19] <HappyFool> is there a 'checkinstall' for python setup.py scripts ?
[11:20] <neo911> can i dump my /etc/network/interaces contents here?
[11:20] <HappyFool> baquero22: i'd recommend investigating checkinstall before installing non-ubuntu software
[11:20] <bimberi> neo911: no, use the pastebin ...
[11:20] <bimberi> !pastebin
[11:20] <ikaros> how can erase the mbr with fdisk? what device is the mbr?
[11:20] <bimberi> !+pastebin
[11:21] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar , or *Please*, after you use the pastebin, link the channel to the specific paste. Thanks!
[11:21] <rawphi> does someone know how the wlan&wpa_supplicant magic is supposed to work in dapper?
[11:21] <HappyFool> the mbr is (i think) the first 512 bytes of the device (e.g., of /dev/hda)
[11:21] <neo911> i posted it in #pastebin
[11:22] <HappyFool> ikaros: what are you trying to achieve?
[11:22] <ikaros> i need to kill a senseless grub HappyFool =)
[11:22] <ikaros> accidently installed on onto mbr but i yet have one on /boot partition
[11:23] <welemski> bye-bye peps
[11:23] <bimberi> neo911: where? post the url here :)
[11:23] <welemski> thansk for the help...
[11:24] <HappyFool> ikaros: do you wish to use the NT bootloader, or reinstall grub, or something else?
[11:24] <neo911> http://pastebin.com/608817
[11:25] <neo911> thats the contents of my /etc/network/interfaces
[11:25] <ikaros> nono.. i just want to use my old grub on /boot.. i now have 2 grubs installed.. its annyoing not more
[11:25] <neo911> does anyone know if its the one that causes my network monitor to remove my DNS entries periodically? idle or not
[11:25] <ikaros> the second one was installed into mbr on hda and it isnt configured
[11:26] <ikaros> so every time i boot i have grub say: grub =)
[11:26] <ikaros> i just need to erase it so it boots the old grub on my /boot partition
[11:27] <ikaros> but i cant seem to find info about erasing grub with fdisk or something similar.. when i google i find windows/dos tuts..
[11:28] <NewUSER> Can one run windows applications on ubuntu
[11:28] <HappyFool> ikaros: it would probably be easier run grub from the command-line to fix where it looks for the stage1.5 loader and so on at boot.  Look in the docs for how to install grub
[11:28] <Madpilot> NewUSER, with Wine or Cedega - but finding a Linux-native alternate is usually much easier
[11:29] <dli__> NewUSER, yes, read winehq.org
[11:29] <ikaros> grub hangs before reaching any stage... believe me it would be easiest to just erase mbr :/
[11:29] <NewUSER> Thanks alot
[11:29] <bimberi> neo911: i don't know what does that.  I've seen people with similar issues told to "fix the config of their dhcp server".  You could try adding 'dns-nameservers' lines to your interfaces file.  Here's mine - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10444
[11:30] <ikaros> and my other grub IS configured.. it just isnt reached because mbr is first always
[11:30] <NewUSER> Any suggestions on a linux program that works as an accounting package
[11:30] <NewUSER> ?
[11:30] <bimberi> NewUSER: gnucash
[11:30] <Madpilot> later, all
[11:30] <NewUSER> Thank you
[11:30] <jjs0ah> bimeri neo911: dhcp was messing up my dns settings. i ended up setting the interface up statically and it went away. not exactly a fix :\
[11:31] <HappyFool> ikaros: this wiki page might give you some hints: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:32] <bimberi> NewUSER: yw :)  by the way you can use Synaptic to search for packages , for example for 'accounting' in Name & Description
[11:32] <neo911> what do you mean statically? where can i do this? my /etc/resolv.conf already has the entries... it;'s the entries in the network monitor DNS tab thats get replaced by my router ip addr that messes things up
[11:32] <bimberi> jjs0ah: yes, mine is static too
[11:32] <ikaros> thx so far HappyFool
[11:32] <HappyFool> ikaros: especially the `recovering grub manually' bits
[11:32] <jjs0ah> neo911: i mean in /etc/network/interfaces .. i changed the interface to have static settings.. dhcp is no longer run, resolv.conf is no longer getting overwritten
[11:32] <ikaros> ye
[11:33] <neo911> jjs0ah so the post my bimberi in  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10444 should fix my problem\?
[11:34] <jjs0ah> neo911: at a glance, that configuration looks fine
[11:36] <fek> moin
[11:36] <DarthShrine> Wow...Ubuntu takes an age to load via LiveCD...Seemingly
[11:37] <neo911> bimberi thanks im trying your post, hope it works...
[11:37] <bimberi> neo911: you can always go back to your post if it doesn't :)
[11:38] <neo911> i always back up don't worry he he
[11:38] <DarthShrine> The background has loaded! Amazing.
[11:38] <bimberi> neo911: fyi another option is to set up /etc/resolv.conf the way you want it then execute "sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf'.  Then even root can't change the file (until you do 'chattr -i').
[11:39] <misterii> hey peeps
[11:40] <neo911> i see only one problem with the code in pastebin, if i get assigned a different ip address by the dhcp server
[11:40] <misterii> I know I've become a regular here in no more than 48 hours, but spare with me....
[11:40] <neo911> spare with me or bear with me?
[11:40] <misterii> I've got a problem with creating executables in xmule
[11:40] <simon__> Got server talking to client right up to Gnome desktop manager screen. however, keyboard works intermittantly.any thoughts people
[11:40] <neo911> or spar with me?
[11:40] <neo911> :-)
[11:40] <misterii> bare with me sorry
[11:41] <misterii> I'm a bit hung over xDDDD
[11:41] <DBO> brother!
[11:41] <DBO> want one?
[11:41] <misterii> 8x
[11:42] <misterii> so, anyone know what to do
[11:42] <misterii> when I run /home/misteri/xmule/configure, I get "checking for C++ compiler default output file name... configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
[11:42] <misterii> "
[11:43] <neo911> thanks guys
[11:43] <simon__> ltsp help please. Keyboard working eratically at gnome desktop manager login phase
[11:44] <VladimirBG> jjs0ah, I tryed what you said, but winxp disc has no fdisk. i did find fixmbr, whitch I did and now I get a mesage at boot sayin nontldr found and boot stalls! how can I revert boot to win from ubuntu?
[11:44] <bimberi> neo911: np :) good luck
[11:44] <myki> I have installed app which placed file, sat xyz in /usr/local/bin. The issue is, that I can't run it through $ xyz, but I must go to the /usr/local/bin and type ./xyz. What should I do to be able to run it from any directory?
[11:44] <VladimirBG> jjs0ah, now even ubuntu wont start
[11:44] <HappyFool> myki: /usr/local/bin must be in the PATH variable
[11:45] <HappyFool> myki: run 'echo $PATH' to see what your PATH is at the moment -- mine has /usr/local/bin, though I don't recall adding it
[11:45] <myki> HappyFool: Yes, it is. I can run any program which is in usr/local/bin just typping it's name after $
[11:45] <myki> HappyFool: But I have problem with this one ;\
[11:45] <neo911> not enough luck, my dns entry expired again, guess the changes didnt work :-(
[11:46] <HappyFool> myki: does '/usr/local/bin/programname' work ?
[11:46] <myki> HappyFool: [11:43:pts/2] [miki@m1:/usr/local] > echo $PATH; /bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/games:/usr/X11R6/bin
[11:46] <jjs0ah> VladimirBG: you can use your ubuntu install disk as a rescue disk. boot to and use grub-install to put grub back into the mbr
[11:46] <myki> HappyFool: I want to be able to run it just typping $ xyz, without going to /usr/local/bin.
[11:47] <k31th> Do you guys build your own kernels on ubuntu ?
[11:47] <HappyFool> myki: indeed. I am trying to help you diagnose the problem
[11:47] <HappyFool> myki: so, does /usr/local/bin/progname work ?
[11:47] <myki> HappyFool: Even chmod is the same
[11:47] <myki> HappyFool: no, $ /usr/local/bin/xyz runs the app
[11:48] <bimberi> myki: what does 'which xyz' return?
[11:48] <HappyFool> myki: have you tried restarting the shell?
[11:48] <myki> HappyFool: And I don't know why just $ xyz doesn't work whilst it's in $path
[11:49] <myki> bimberi: echo `which xyz` doesnt return anything
[11:49] <HappyFool> myki: bash can get confused about the path, especially after uninstalling stuff (iirc)
[11:49] <myki> HappyFool: actually, im using tcsh
[11:49] <HappyFool> myki: well, try restarting anyway
[11:49] <myki> k
[11:49] <myki> HappyFool: omg, what worked. Thx a lot btw ;)
[11:50] <HappyFool> np ;)
[11:50] <jjs0ah> k31th: you can but I think most people are using the precompiled kernels / modules
[11:52] <jchillerup> Hi. I've just compiled a kernel, but I still need an initrd file. How do I create a such?
[11:52] <neo911> #gcc
[11:52] <Matic`Makovec> mkinitrd ?
[11:53] <jchillerup> mkinitramfs
[11:53] <jchillerup> ?
[11:53] <Matic`Makovec> no
[11:53] <k31th> init rd yes.
[11:53] <Matic`Makovec> apt-cache search mkinitrd
[11:53] <Matic`Makovec> and install that.
[11:54] <jchillerup> Thank you very much!
[11:54] <jchillerup> bootcd-mkinitrd - bootcd extension to create an initrd-image usable for bootcd
[11:54] <jchillerup> mkinitrd-cd - Creates an initrd image for booting from a live CD-ROM or USB device
[11:54] <jchillerup> err... Is it one of those two?
[11:54] <neo911> i tried to compile my code and got "gcc: installation problem, cannot exec 'cc1plus': No such file or directory
[11:54] <neo911> neo911 " i have a fresh OS install, am i missing any package? thanks..
[11:55] <Jimmey__> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:55] <Jimmey__> ?
[11:55] <jchillerup> I have that already
[11:55] <Matic`Makovec> jchillerup, it is
[11:55] <jchillerup> should I just pick one of them?
[11:55] <Matic`Makovec> jchillerup, install them both.
[11:55] <Mabus06> how come I can no longer access my windows after installing ubuntu? (grub is installed to mbr)
[11:56] <Jimmey__> Check it there with 'sudo fdisk -l'
[11:56] <jchillerup> Mabus06, because your grub menu got altered...
[11:56] <Mabus06> I get a blue screen that says I should check to see if the disk is good but I can still access it read only from ubuntu
[11:56] <jchillerup> Your windows installation is still intact.
[11:57] <Mabus06> yes, seems so
[11:58] <milamber> lo everyone,
[11:58] <NewUSER> Lo
[11:58] <milamber> when i play wmv or some mpeg files, the sound and vieuw is not steady, some suggestions ?
[11:59] <jchillerup> Perhaps you use a wrong output driver?
[11:59] <jchillerup> Do you use mplayer?
[11:59] <milamber> yes i use mplayer
[11:59] <Mabus06> Jimmey__, jchillerup... I did 'sudo fdisk -l' and everything looks fine...
[11:59] <jchillerup> Yeah
[12:00] <jchillerup> milamber, try invoking it like this: mplayer -vo xv [file]
[12:00] <jchillerup> Mabus06, Aye.. You have to edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:01] <Jimmey__> Mabus06, can you select your Windows OS from the GRUB menu?
[12:01] <Mabus06> Jimmey__: yes, I select it and I get a blue screen that says windows could not start properly
[12:01] <milamber> it is a stream, jchillerup i played it realtime ( no it is not a buffering problem cause mplayer pre buffer the whole movie, exmpl (http://www.bigfun.be/Movie/When+Keeping+it+Real.htm )
[12:01] <Jimmey__> Do you have a boot floppy, or a Windows CD?
[12:01] <Mabus06> jchillerup: why would I need to do that? windows is there, and I haven't modified my grub yet
[12:02] <Mabus06> Jimmey__: just the install cd
[12:02] <jchillerup> Something has, Mabus06
[12:02] <jchillerup> milamber, Hm... Try numpad + or - to adjust syncing
[12:02] <Jimmey__> You could try repearing your Windows partition with the install CD
[12:02] <MistaED> hmm with WMVHD, is it just a limitation that it's choppy or is there a solution? i have a >3ghz rated system so it's not hardware limited
[12:02] <jchillerup> That would overwrrite grub
[12:02] <jchillerup> And then he/she can't boot into ubuntu
[12:02] <Mabus06> jchillerup: only thing I have done close to that is edit the partition table to automatically mount my windows paritions
[12:03] <jchillerup>  /etc/fstab?
[12:03] <milamber> i've got the win32codecs gnomefreak, buth a place on the restricted site  that says.. ? where ?
[12:03] <Mabus06> jchillerup: yes, should I pastebin?
[12:03] <Jimmey__> jchillerup, he could fix that with an Ubuntu install / liveCD
[12:04] <gnomefreak> !restricted
[12:04] <Mabus06> Jimmey__: I'd like to check other options before reinstalling both operating systems.
[12:04] <ubotu> from memory, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[12:04] <Jimmey__> Mabus06, I'm not suggesting you do that - I'm saying that on the Windows CD there's an option ( I'm assuming ) to check the state of your Windows install, like scandisk
[12:04] <Spde> wtf, im following a tutorial but when i got do the add user part ubuntu just asked for username and password?? i need to add home dir, group etc.?
[12:05] <gnomefreak> Note: If you are experiencing choppy audio when playing WMV files, try [WWW]  this fix.
[12:05] <gnomefreak> find that line on that page and click it ;)
[12:05] <flogiston> How do I find were the executable for openoffice?
[12:05] <bimberi> Spde: what command did you run?  adduser?
[12:05] <Jimmey__> locate ooffice2
[12:05] <Spde> bimberi: yeh
[12:06] <Spde> bimberi: ask for stuff like phone numer :D but not group and homedir =P
[12:06] <bimberi> Spde: 'ls /home' it's probably done it for you
[12:07] <Spde> bimberi: i want it to be /usr/ftp/username.. how do i change it?
[12:07] <wictor> ,
[12:08] <gnomefreak> milamber: on ther same site if you go down a lil further you will see for mpeg i think also
[12:08] <milamber> thnx again gnomefreak, like always u've helped me again ... :D
[12:08] <HappyFool> does anyone else get this mail-message from the cron daemon: 'mandb: warning: /usr/share/man/man1/rmic.1.gz is a dangling symlink'
[12:09] <bimberi> Spde: does /usr/ftp exist?  if no you need to create it.  Then 'mv /home/<user> /usr/ftp' and edit /etc/passwd to change the users home directory
[12:09] <gnomefreak> glad i can help now i brb for first cup of coffee
[12:10] <Spde> bimberi: ok, thanks. what about the group? i want it to be the same as the username? is that default?
[12:10] <bimberi> Spde: usually, type 'sudo groups <username>' to check
[12:10] <Spde> bimberi: thanks for the help =)
[12:10] <bimberi> Spde: np :)
[12:13] <Spde> dir
[12:13] <Spde> ops =)
[12:13] <Matic`Makovec> wrong window :o
[12:14] <Spde> wrong keboard =P
[12:14] <Matic`Makovec> :)
[12:15] <GnarusLeo> !bluteooth
[12:15] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, GnarusLeo
[12:15] <GnarusLeo> !bluetooth
[12:15] <ubotu> bluetooth is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothSetup and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothRemote
[12:20] <Ceni> hi all
[12:20] <toblerp> where can i get a list of changes for dapper?
[12:20] <toblerp> what are the new features?
[12:21] <Toma-> !dapper
[12:21] <ubotu> The next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion
[12:21] <bimberi> !flight5
[12:21] <ubotu> somebody said flight5 was http://www.ubuntu.com/testing
[12:22] <bimberi> toblerp: iirc, the flight5 page (linked from above) has a few details
[12:23] <gnomefreak> http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/flight5
[12:23] <gnomefreak> june 1st is release date
[12:23] <Ceni> can anybody tell me what kind of servers can I make with ubuntu
[12:23] <Ceni> ?
[12:23] <gnomefreak> Ceni: any kind you wish
[12:24] <Ceni> really
[12:24] <Ceni> wow
[12:24] <Ceni> but it looks so simple
[12:24] <gnomefreak> Ceni: can you be lil less general though?
[12:24] <Ceni> right now I'm just experimenting
[12:25] <Ceni> to see what can do and what not
[12:25] <Ceni> but it looks really great
[12:26] <neoxan> hi all
[12:26] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: I thought we were still awaiting the official announcement on that (although I acknowledge it is extremely likely from the discussions).
[12:26] <Ceni> ?
[12:26] <neoxan> i got a problem, i run dapper, but when i use amule, it says "kad: firewalled"
[12:26] <neoxan> what could be the problem?
[12:26] <neoxan> i dont have a router or something, just a dsl modem
[12:27] <tonyyarusso> neoxan: You might try asking in #ubuntu+1 for Dapper questions.
[12:28] <Toma-> neoxan: #ubuntu+1 and also, your firewalled. check if iptables is running or if you have a router...
[12:28] <Jimmey__> neoxan, I suggest installing Firestarter, and then making a few policy changes
[12:28] <Mnemic> !theme
[12:29] <Ceni> wich brainAdams
[12:29] <Ceni> the singer
[12:29] <Toma-> ...
[12:31] <LoCusF> !vmware
[12:31] <ubotu> LoCusF: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:32] <nickrud> boy this is quiet this time of night
[12:32] <b-or> !vmware
[12:32] <ubotu> b-or: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:33] <LoCusF> won't work
[12:33] <basti__> which kernel should I use with my pentium M cpu on my laptop?
[12:33] <Mnemic> 386 i think
[12:34] <basti__> doesnt pentium m support 686?
[12:34] <Mnemic> Not sure dude :/