[00:34]  * karni notes to do the reviews
[00:49] <kklimonda> ff
[08:42] <Cimi> tsdgeos, ping
[08:42] <tsdgeos> Cimi: hi
[08:42] <Cimi> tsdgeos, mhr3_ told me to use the video thumbailer in few cases
[08:42] <Cimi> is         source: widgetData["screenshot"] || widgetData["source"].startsWith("file://") ? "image://thumbnailer/..." : "" correct?
[08:44] <tsdgeos> Cimi: think so
[08:44] <tsdgeos> see uriToThumbnailerProviderString
[08:44] <tsdgeos> basically does
[08:44] <tsdgeos>     if (uri.startsWith(QLatin1String("file:///"))) {
[08:44] <tsdgeos>             thumbnailerUri = BASE_THUMBNAILER_URI;
[08:44] <tsdgeos>             thumbnailerUri.append(uri.midRef(7));
[08:44] <tsdgeos>
[08:45] <mhr3_> Cimi, the "..." is supposed to be path to the video
[08:45] <Cimi> mhr3_, ahah ok
[08:45] <tsdgeos> mhr3_: the previews should be fine now
[08:46] <mhr3_> Cimi, don't forget to update the factory for the video widget
[08:46] <Cimi> mhr3_, source: widgetData["screenshot"] || widgetData["source"].startsWith("file://") ? "image://thumbnailer/" + widgetData["source"] : "" ?
[08:46] <tsdgeos> mhr3_: fixed it and karni reviewed
[08:46] <mhr3_> Cimi, you need to strip file://
[08:46] <mhr3_> tsdgeos, awesome, thank you
[08:46] <mhr3_> does js support widgetData["source"][7:] ?
[08:47] <tsdgeos> Cimi: and we have a release
[08:47] <tsdgeos> Cimi: so remerge your stuff
[08:47] <tsdgeos> Cimi: no
[08:47] <tsdgeos> Cimi: cut the file:///, see the code i pasted
[08:48] <Cimi> mhr3_, dunno
[08:48]  * Cimi prints
[08:53] <Cimi> mhr3_, widgetData["source"].substr(7) might work
[08:54]  * tsdgeos shows http://www.w3schools.com/jsref/jsref_obj_string.asp to Cimi
[08:54] <tsdgeos> mhr3_: are you doing https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity8/unity8.preview_image/+merge/205757 ? looks good enough to me now
[08:56] <Cimi> tsdgeos, slice or substr ?
[08:58] <tsdgeos> Cimi: substr i'd say
[08:58] <Cimi> tsdgeos, what's diference-?
[08:58] <Cimi> ah
[08:58] <Cimi> position of end of char
[08:59] <tsdgeos> or slice
[08:59] <tsdgeos> yeah
[08:59] <tsdgeos> see http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2243824/what-is-the-difference-between-string-slice-and-string-substring-in-javascript
[08:59] <tsdgeos> it's "all do the same" kind of :D
[09:01] <tsdgeos> mhr3_: ping
[09:06] <mhr3_> tsdgeos, pong
[09:06] <tsdgeos> mhr3_: just to confirm, you wanted the data passed to the actions back right?
[09:06] <mhr3_> yep
[09:07] <tsdgeos> ok, will have a MP for you to review in a few mins
[09:13] <tsdgeos> mhr3_: https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/actions_data_back/+merge/205915
[09:14] <Cimi> tsdgeos, help http://paste.ubuntu.com/6919000/
[09:15] <tsdgeos> lol
[09:15] <Cimi> tsdgeos, home/cimi/Development/video/qml/Dash/Previews/PreviewVideoPlayback.qml:40: TypeError: Object file:///path/to/local/file has no method 'startsWith'
[09:16] <tsdgeos> yeah no startswith in http://www.w3schools.com/jsref/jsref_obj_string.asp
[09:16] <Cimi> me stupid
[09:16] <tsdgeos> indexOf == 0 ?
[09:17] <tsdgeos> Cimi: i'd do a function there
[09:17] <tsdgeos> that'd be easier to read with proper if/else
[09:17] <tsdgeos> and being able to assign stuff to a var
[09:20] <mhr3_> tsdgeos, i don't think the id is present in the attribute map
[09:20] <tsdgeos> mhr3_: the test shows it is D:
[09:21] <tsdgeos> and the json too
[09:21] <tsdgeos> {
[09:21] <tsdgeos>     "type": "actions",
[09:21] <tsdgeos>     "actions": [{"label": null, "icon": null, "id": null}]
[09:21] <tsdgeos> }
[09:21] <mhr3_> oh that's the action id
[09:21] <mhr3_> nvm
[09:21] <mhr3_> yea, ok
[09:21] <tsdgeos> ep
[09:21] <tsdgeos> yep
[09:44] <sil2100> bregma: hi! Just to mention: I disabled and removed window-mocker from cu2d
[10:05] <tsdgeos> sil2100: can we get a silo for unity8?
[10:06] <tsdgeos> we have a good bunch of stuff to land again :-)
[10:06] <sil2100> tsdgeos: ;) Sure, but we apparently have some spreadsheet problems right now, so once those are done we will assign ;)
[10:08] <mhr3_> tsdgeos, how's support for header looking?
[10:08] <tsdgeos> sil2100: ok
[10:08] <tsdgeos> mhr3_: should be landing soon
[10:08] <tsdgeos> mhr3_: we can merge it to new-scopes already if you want
[10:08] <mhr3_> eh, if i knew 10minutes ago i would
[10:08] <tsdgeos> mhr3_:  lp:~aacid/unity8/preview_header
[10:09] <tsdgeos> mhr3_: of course soon might mean tomorrow, since our CI train is not a high speed train :D
[10:10] <mhr3_> tsdgeos, tell me about it :)
[10:33] <anpok> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/qtubuntu/trunk/view/head:/src/platforms/ubuntu/ubuntucommon/window.cc this code querries the opaque property from the window class
[10:33] <anpok> writes it to flags and ignores it then..
[10:33] <anpok> is the opaque property in some way configureable for applications?
[10:34] <anpok> i.e. through a qml property?
[10:38] <tsdgeos> anpok: reading the code i'd say no, but loicm should be the one that knows more
[10:38] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: you did the DownloadTracker thing?
[10:39] <tsdgeos> Saviq did
[10:39] <tsdgeos> it seems
[10:39] <mzanetti> downloadtracker?
[10:39] <mzanetti> never heard of that
[10:39] <tsdgeos> :D
[10:39] <tsdgeos> wonder if we have tests for it
[10:40] <tsdgeos> well we have a mock so may as well
[10:41] <tsdgeos> cool
[10:41] <tsdgeos> we do
[10:43] <tsdgeos> Cimi: you need to hook up https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity8/unity8.preview_video/+merge/205802 to the factory too
[10:44] <Cimi> tsdgeos, I did locally
[10:44] <tsdgeos> cool
[10:44] <Cimi> tsdgeos, I' writing tests for the image thumnnailer
[10:45] <tsdgeos> oki
[10:45] <tsdgeos> or
[10:45] <tsdgeos> hmmm
[10:45] <tsdgeos> Cimi: maybe no need
[10:45] <tsdgeos> Cimi: i was promised ages ago, the thumbnailer would move from our codebase
[10:45] <tsdgeos> so not sure it makes sense to invest time in that now
[10:46] <mhr3_> thumbnailer is in uitk
[10:49] <tsdgeos> right, ok
[10:49] <tsdgeos> Cimi: so what are you testing?
[10:49] <mhr3_> tsdgeos, yey, running apps in demo ppa :)
[10:50] <tsdgeos> mhr3_: awesome, didn't think it'd work :D
[10:50]  * tsdgeos hides
[10:50] <mhr3_> lol
[10:50] <mhr3_> it does :P
[10:50] <Cimi> tsdgeos, pushed
[10:51] <mhr3_> merging to new-scopes
[10:56] <mhr3_> tsdgeos, the headers look bad with the white bkgr
[10:57] <tsdgeos> mhr3_: ok, will have to have a look at visuals
[10:57] <tsdgeos> mhr3_: and maybe hardcode a few things for now
[10:57] <tsdgeos> it's on the list
[10:57] <tsdgeos> * make sure visuals are correct
[10:57] <mhr3_> k
[10:57] <mhr3_> tsdgeos, do you see anything else majorly missing for new-scopes?
[10:57] <mhr3_> besides progress widget
[10:58] <mhr3_> and me providing you with all the preview stuff
[10:58] <tsdgeos> mhr3_: this is my todo http://paste.ubuntu.com/6919377/
[10:58] <tsdgeos> progress is almost done
[10:58] <tsdgeos> need the tests
[10:58] <tsdgeos> there's reviews preview widget and rating-input preview widget that Cimi will do next?
[10:59] <tsdgeos> and there's a few stuff that probably needs to be tweaked
[10:59] <tsdgeos> but it isn't looking that bad
[10:59] <Cimi> tsdgeos, doing them now
[10:59] <tsdgeos> mhr3_: Cimi: anything you find missing in that todo list?
[10:59] <mhr3_> tsdgeos, looks like you're missing some [DONE] ;)
[10:59] <tsdgeos> well i need to remove them :D
[10:59] <tsdgeos> well we first need to approve the cimi ones
[11:00] <tsdgeos> i'm doing the last test
[11:00] <tsdgeos> and will approve
[11:00] <mhr3_> tsdgeos, our next major thing is the progress widget, the click guys will need it to do end-to-end test
[11:00] <tsdgeos> will be there in 30 mins or less hopefully
[11:00] <mhr3_> that's too fast, pls slow down :P
[11:02] <Cimi> tsdgeos, link to MR check list?
[11:02] <tsdgeos> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Process/Merges/Checklists/Unity8
[11:03] <Cimi> can we just add it when answer is negative?
[11:03] <Cimi> what's the point?
[11:03] <mhr3_> tsdgeos, once we have all this we should talk about temp dash pages
[11:03] <tsdgeos> Cimi: what is negative?
[11:03] <tsdgeos> mhr3_: that's not so easy
[11:04] <tsdgeos> but sure :D
[11:04] <mhr3_> tsdgeos, lucky you then, i was already pushing back on that
[11:04] <tsdgeos> mhr3_: "so easy" -> hard
[11:04] <tsdgeos> but talking is "free"
[11:04] <tsdgeos> but yeah, i don't think we'll have time to do it tbh
[11:05] <mhr3_> so.. next week ;)
[11:05] <mhr3_> let's try to talk about it on fri
[11:05] <Cimi> tsdgeos, when I don' test, I say I did not test
[11:05] <Cimi> tsdgeos, it's obvious we do the checklist
[11:05] <Cimi> tsdgeos, I always did it
[11:05] <tsdgeos> Cimi: well, what do you need to test in those things that aren't hooked up anywhere?
[11:05] <Cimi> in the last 4 years here
[11:06] <tsdgeos> Cimi: i know, it's silly
[11:06] <tsdgeos> it's not me that came up with rules that make us look as we are children that need to reminded to do our jobs
[11:06] <Cimi> who did?
[11:06] <tsdgeos> no clue
[11:07] <tsdgeos> Cimi: so about your image and video stuff
[11:07] <tsdgeos> they conflict with lp:~aacid/unity8/preview_header
[11:07] <Cimi> where?
[11:07] <tsdgeos> can you merge lp:~aacid/unity8/preview_header into them and make lp:~aacid/unity8/preview_header be the prerequisite for lp:~unity-team/unity8/unity8.preview_image ?
[11:07] <tsdgeos> the factory
[11:07] <Cimi> ok
[11:08] <tsdgeos> tx
[11:13] <Cimi> tsdgeos, done for both
[11:14] <tsdgeos> tx
[11:16] <tsdgeos> Cimi: can you resubmit https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity8/unity8.preview_image/+merge/205757 with the correct prerequisite?
[11:17] <anpok> where would I enter the PIN
[11:17] <anpok> used n4 without a sim card up to now
[11:20] <mhr3_> one of the indicators has "unlock sim"
[11:20] <Cimi> tsdgeos, all done
[11:28] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: can you add https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity8/unity8.preview_image/+merge/205937 and https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity8/unity8.preview_video/+merge/205802 to the list of MPs?
[11:28] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: ideally at the end and in that order
[11:29] <tsdgeos> since they depend on eachother and in others that are already in the list
[11:29] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: done
[11:30] <gatox> tsdgeos, here
[11:30] <tsdgeos> gatox: no idea about unity-scope-tool to be honest
[11:30] <tsdgeos> i've just used unity8 itself
[11:30] <tsdgeos> with the scopes of scopes that mhr3_ pointed me to
[11:30] <gatox> tsdgeos, how were you testing that the preview is being displayed?
[11:30] <tsdgeos> and it works
[11:31] <tsdgeos> mhr3_: what are you using unity8 or unity-scope-tool?
[11:31] <gatox> tsdgeos, can you tell me how to reproduce it
[11:31] <gatox> ?
[11:31] <tsdgeos> gatox: how to reproduce what? the unity8 binary?
[11:31] <gatox> tsdgeos, i ask because the same scope that was showing results of the search yesterday..... now it doesn't show even that
[11:32] <tsdgeos> hmmm
[11:32] <tsdgeos> we didn't change anything search related
[11:32] <gatox> tsdgeos, how can i execute anything unity8/unity-scope-tool or something that will allow me to see the preview working
[11:32] <tsdgeos> gatox: build unity8
[11:32] <tsdgeos> or just install it from the demo-stuff ppa
[11:32] <tsdgeos> it's just easier
[11:32] <gatox> tsdgeos, i'm testing on the desktop
[11:33] <tsdgeos> gatox: yes you can do both things i mentioned (build and use the demo-stuff ppa)
[11:33] <tsdgeos> https://launchpad.net/~unity-team/+archive/demo-stuff
[11:33] <tsdgeos> on the desktop
[11:33] <gatox> tsdgeos, ok, i already build the new-scopes branch in the desktop
[11:33] <tsdgeos> gatox: and is your scope showing?
[11:33] <mhr3_> tsdgeos, both
[11:34] <gatox> tsdgeos, i'm running it like this: UNITY_FORCE_NEW_SCOPES=1 ./builddir/tools/unity-scope-tool --scope-dir /media/gatox/leeloo/canonical/clickhack/demo
[11:34] <gatox> tsdgeos, how are you doing it?
[11:34] <tsdgeos> gatox: as i said, i am not running /unity-scope-tool, i just ran unity8 and that's it
[11:34] <tsdgeos> i haven't used unity-scope-tool much tbh
[11:34] <gatox> tsdgeos, and you are using just ./run?
[11:34] <tsdgeos> gatox: yes
[11:34] <mhr3_> gatox, there's latest version of libunity-scopes in distro now, you need to recompile the scope
[11:35] <gatox> mhr3_, checking that
[11:35] <mhr3_> gatox, scope-tool should print an error from scoperunner about some ABI mismatch
[11:37] <mhr3_> gatox, sorry, looks like you weren't on the mail about the break
[11:40] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: assigning this to you, ok? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1279298
[11:41] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: sure
[11:41] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: it's the SDK people that don't stop messing with the tabs
[11:41] <mzanetti> :D
[11:41] <tsdgeos> and they're rewriting/killing them again ^_^
[11:41] <gatox> mhr3_, does the api changed or something? i'm getting a weird issue when trying to build the scope about the create_query and preview function not being override.... which was working yesterday
[11:42] <mhr3_> gatox, yes, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity-scopes-api/devel/view/head:/RELEASE_NOTES.txt
[11:42] <gatox> checking
[11:42] <mhr3_> gatox, there's a branch that fixes all that already
[11:42] <mhr3_> just merge it
[11:46] <mhr3_> gatox, btw the envvar isn't necessary
[11:47] <mhr3_> if you're using the new-scopes branch
[11:47] <gatox> ack
[11:47] <mhr3_> actually it might even be breaking things
[11:51] <dandrader> mzanetti, would you have time to review that? https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/unity8/rotatedDDA/+merge/205845
[11:52] <mzanetti> dandrader: mind adding the checklist
[11:53] <dandrader> greyback, ^^^ that fixes the rotation issue with edge drags
[11:53] <dandrader> mzanetti, ah, let me find it
[11:53] <greyback> dandrader: nice
[11:54] <dandrader> greyback, I've merged it already in the unity8/rotate-n7 branch
[11:54] <greyback> dandrader: I know, am using it :)
[11:56] <tsdgeos> Cimi: mhr3_: https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/preview_progress/+merge/205939
[11:57] <Cimi> tsdgeos, kill empty double new lines :)
[11:58] <tsdgeos> :D
[11:58] <gatox> tsdgeos, mhr3_ everything working using unity-scope-tool with the scope migrated to the new api.... thx both!
[11:58] <tsdgeos> Cimi: there's more than one?
[11:58] <Cimi> tsdgeos, there are few ones
[11:59] <tsdgeos> really?
[11:59]  * tsdgeos looks again
[11:59] <Cimi> tsdgeos, 25	+
[11:59] <Cimi> 68	+
[11:59] <Cimi> 147	+
[11:59] <tsdgeos> so there are two
[11:59] <tsdgeos> 68 is not a dobule line!
[11:59] <tsdgeos> but i'll kill it too
[12:00] <tsdgeos> done
[12:00] <mhr3_> gatox, cool
[12:01] <mhr3_> tsdgeos, looks good
[12:01] <mhr3_> tsdgeos, i am wondering though - all those widgetData["foo"], are those properly bound?
[12:02] <mhr3_> tsdgeos, i mean, the widgetData thing is a role in model and that thing can be updated
[12:03] <Cimi> tsdgeos, how about choosing Moto G instead nexus 4 as our new device?
[12:03] <mhr3_> someone wants to play with new hardware :)
[12:03] <Cimi> tsdgeos, nexus 4 are no longer available
[12:03] <Cimi> mhr3_, ^
[12:04] <Cimi> mhr3_, and mogo G is less than half price
[12:04] <Cimi> *moto G
[12:04] <mhr3_> and here i thought the n4 is the cheapest smartphone ever
[12:04] <mzanetti> dandrader: "// NB:..." always triggers "Nicht beachten" in my head which means "disregard this:" :D
[12:05] <Cimi> mhr3_, you can find it for £250 N4
[12:05] <Cimi> mhr3_, spent 119 for Moto G
[12:05] <dandrader> mzanetti, :)
[12:05] <Cimi> comparable specs
[12:06] <tsdgeos> Cimi: i'm not in position to decide that :D
[12:06] <Cimi> tsdgeos, I know you're not
[12:06] <tsdgeos> Cimi: not sure what is your concern about widgetData stuff
[12:06] <Cimi> tsdgeos, neither I am
[12:06] <Cimi> tsdgeos, but was asking your opinion
[12:06] <tsdgeos> Cimi: but with motorola sold to lenovo, i'm wondering how much live motog has :D
[12:06] <Cimi> hah
[12:06] <mhr3_> Cimi, well n4 is like $200 in us, which is about 120gbp, so it's actually pretty similar
[12:06] <mhr3_> wonder why the uk price is so crazy
[12:07] <Cimi> mhr3_, isn't it out of production?
[12:07] <mhr3_> well yea, now it is
[12:07] <Cimi> mhr3_, 200 is a lot
[12:07] <Cimi> mhr3_, moto G is 99$ in us
[12:07] <mhr3_> ok, nvm then :)
[12:07] <mzanetti> greyback: you already tested dandraders branch on a rotated N7?
[12:08] <greyback> mzanetti: not in isolation yet. But if you give me 5 mins, I can
[12:08] <mzanetti> greyback: cool. I'll test it with standard rotation
[12:08] <mzanetti> code looks ok to me
[12:09] <Cimi> mhr3_, 200$? http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=nexus%204
[12:09] <Cimi> it's 360
[12:10] <mhr3_> Cimi, understandable since google doesn't sell anymore
[12:10] <mhr3_> but it was 200 when they did
[12:10] <Cimi> mhr3_, I know
[12:11] <Cimi> mhr3_, but now, we're spending lots for getting out of production phones
[12:11] <Cimi> mhr3_, wondering if it'll happen like galaxy nexus
[12:12] <mhr3_> Cimi, problem with any hardware, no? either n4 or moto g will be obsolete in a few months
[12:13] <Cimi> well, moto g nope
[12:13] <Cimi> it's on the market since a month
[12:13] <Cimi> nexus 4 over a year
[12:13] <greyback> android 4.4 (kitkat) supports Nexus4, but the GNexus doesn't. So N4 should be good for a long while yet
[12:14] <Cimi> greyback, issue is that we can't buy them easily anymore
[12:14] <Cimi> greyback, I'd be happy to try porting ubuntu touch on my moto g (my private phone)
[12:14] <Cimi> it's a jewel for its price
[12:14] <Cimi> battery lasts 3 days with the pebble :)
[12:14] <mhr3_> tsdgeos, we lost the search activity indicator btw
[12:15] <tsdgeos> mhr3_: in new-scopes?
[12:15] <mhr3_> tsdgeos, also in trunk
[12:15] <greyback> Cimi: sure, it's not the newest phone, but our software stack will support it for at least another year probably.
[12:15] <tsdgeos> mhr3_: waaaa
[12:15] <tsdgeos> but we didn't merge anything that touched that :S
[12:16] <mhr3_> tsdgeos, well, better double check with vanilla image, my isn't exactly vanilla :)
[12:16] <tsdgeos> mhr3_: seems it got lost yes :S
[12:16] <tsdgeos> mhr3_: can you open a bug and assign it to me plz
[12:16] <tsdgeos> mhr3_: did you guys change anything in the backend?
[12:16] <mhr3_> nope
[12:17] <mhr3_> at least i'm not aware.. maybe we did break it
[12:17] <mhr3_> but it's not like we touched the old scope code
[12:19] <mhr3_> tsdgeos, https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity8/+bug/1279316
[12:20] <tsdgeos> mhr3_: tx
[12:24] <mhr3_> tsdgeos, something's broketh http://imgur.com/8jKw2zf
[12:24] <tsdgeos> booo
[12:25] <mhr3_> video + header + actions
[12:25] <tsdgeos> i'd say video is broken
[12:25] <tsdgeos> header + action looks good
[12:25] <tsdgeos> assuming that 16xxxx is the header
[12:25] <mhr3_> yea
[12:27] <tsdgeos> mhr3_: so it seems the search has been broken for a while
[12:27] <tsdgeos> just nooen noticed
[12:27] <tsdgeos> i know what's wrong
[12:27] <mhr3_> tsdgeos, also, the carousel doesn't show anything if there are only a few items
[12:28] <tsdgeos> mhr3_: new-scopes?
[12:28] <mhr3_> (just category header)
[12:28] <mhr3_> yea
[12:28] <tsdgeos> should show a grid
[12:28] <mhr3_> it doesn't
[12:28] <tsdgeos> but it may happen that the magic is not working
[12:28]  * tsdgeos writes to the TODO list
[12:30] <mhr3_> tsdgeos, maybe you want to check the demo ppa, there may be other issues i'm ignoring :)
[12:30] <tsdgeos> mhr3_: sure i know
[12:30] <tsdgeos> mhr3_: i'm just fixing the ones we know about first ;)
[12:31] <mhr3_> k
[12:31] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: huh? https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/unity-phablet-qmluitests-trusty/1165/?
[12:31] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: yes?
[12:31] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: did we get this test released in a broken state?
[12:31] <tsdgeos> yes
[12:31] <mzanetti> and your branch from today morning fixes this, ok
[12:31] <tsdgeos> don't tell anyone
[12:31] <mzanetti> no prob
[12:31] <mzanetti> was just wondering how daniel's branch could fail on this now
[12:32] <tsdgeos> everything is failing until we merge the fix
[12:32] <mzanetti> ack
[12:35] <mzanetti> greyback: please top approve when you're happy with the DDA on Nexus 7: https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/unity8/rotatedDDA/+merge/205845
[12:35]  * mzanetti is happy with it
[12:35] <greyback> mzanetti: ack
[12:37] <tsdgeos> mhr3_: if you feel like reviewing https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/bug1279316/+merge/205952 that'd be great otherwise i can try to get Cimi or mzanetti to do it
[12:40] <mhr3_> tsdgeos, acked
[12:40] <tsdgeos> Cimi: can you quick fix  https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity8/unity8.preview_video/+merge/205802 ?
[12:40] <tsdgeos> mhr3_: tx
[12:41] <Cimi> tsdgeos, mmm
[12:41] <Cimi> tsdgeos, I have implicitWidth
[12:41] <tsdgeos> height?
[12:42] <Cimi> tsdgeos, width
[12:42] <tsdgeos> yes
[12:42] <tsdgeos> i know
[12:42] <tsdgeos> yes
[12:42] <Cimi> tsdgeos, I got inspired by MoviePreview
[12:42] <tsdgeos> but what about height?
[12:42] <Cimi> tsdgeos, it is calculated from width
[12:42] <tsdgeos> the inner one
[12:42] <tsdgeos> not the outer one
[12:42] <tsdgeos> your outer widget ahs no height
[12:43] <Cimi> tsdgeos, but if I set height
[12:43] <Cimi> tsdgeos, then how does the inner widget work?
[12:43] <Cimi> if it is supposed to calculate from width?
[12:43] <tsdgeos> you're missing a height: childrenRect.implicitHeight
[12:43] <tsdgeos> or something along these lines
[12:43] <Cimi> I am not sure
[12:43] <Cimi> are yo?
[12:43] <tsdgeos> i am
[12:43] <tsdgeos> your widget has 0 height
[12:44] <tsdgeos> how is that valid?
[12:44] <Cimi> tsdgeos, other widget might have 0 width then
[12:44] <Cimi> tsdgeos, we never specify width
[12:44] <tsdgeos> we do
[12:44] <Cimi> I cannot see implicitWidth here
[12:44] <Cimi> on other widgets
[12:45] <tsdgeos> i know
[12:45] <Cimi> so why height and not width?
[12:45] <tsdgeos> because width is set by the widget creator
[12:45] <tsdgeos> i.e.
[12:45] <tsdgeos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6919775/
[12:45] <tsdgeos> this is what the Preview does
[12:46] <tsdgeos> creates one widget after the other
[12:46] <tsdgeos> and gives them widget
[12:46] <tsdgeos> s/widget/width
[12:46] <tsdgeos> but can't give them height because it doesn't know
[12:46] <tsdgeos> Cimi: basically see http://imgur.com/8jKw2zf
[12:47] <tsdgeos> the video doesn't define height
[12:47] <tsdgeos> so stuff can't know where to add itself
[12:47] <Cimi> tsdgeos, I see
[12:47] <Cimi> tsdgeos, so it's basically to fit our use case
[12:47] <tsdgeos> and to do the right thing :-)
[12:48] <tsdgeos> every widget should either define width/height/implicitWidth/implicitHeight correctly
[12:48] <tsdgeos> if there are that do not
[12:48] <tsdgeos> well we have to fix them, but if the missing thing is width/implicitWidth it's less pressing since our current use case doesn't need them
[12:48] <Cimi> tsdgeos, but we don't for width
[12:48] <Cimi> yeah
[12:48] <tsdgeos> Cimi: in which one we don't?
[12:50] <Cimi> tsdgeos, look at others, we don't add implicitWidth iirc
[12:50] <Cimi> tsdgeos, btw, make tryPreviewWidgetFactory is empty
[12:50] <tsdgeos> yaeh it's a bit useless as try
[12:51] <tsdgeos> Cimi: you're right, we don't set width because they are done thinking on this usecase
[12:51] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: what was the reason why we changed the return value of findChild from undefined to null?
[12:51] <tsdgeos> where their width won't matter
[12:51] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: Saviq said it was "more proper"
[12:51] <mzanetti> ok
[12:52] <tsdgeos> mhr3_: in that screenshot which is the order that you have? movie, header, action?
[12:52] <Cimi> tsdgeos, I pushed, can you test if works for you now?
[12:53] <mhr3_> tsdgeos, think so
[12:53] <tsdgeos> ok
[12:55] <tsdgeos> Cimi: looks good
[12:56] <Cimi> tsdgeos, but works?
[12:56] <tsdgeos> Cimi: in my testing yes, the screenshot is from mhr3_, it'll be easier for him to really test
[12:56] <Cimi> tsdgeos, also, the 16/10 multiplication isn't really ideal
[12:56] <dandrader> what do I do when I get an error like that on a "apt-get dist-upgrade"? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6919807/
[12:56] <tsdgeos> mhr3_: can you remerge lp:~unity-team/unity8/unity8.preview_video and test that?
[12:56] <Cimi> tsdgeos, as might not be aligned to gu
[12:56] <tsdgeos> Cimi: what wait
[12:56] <tsdgeos> Cimi: why did you do that?
[12:57] <Cimi> tsdgeos, this was in moviepreview
[12:57] <tsdgeos> ah
[12:57] <tsdgeos> it's not new
[12:57] <tsdgeos> ok
[12:57] <tsdgeos> i guess it's the "cinema aspect ratio"
[12:57] <tsdgeos> need to get food
[12:57] <tsdgeos> back later
[12:57] <Cimi> I'll go cooking as well then
[13:03] <anpok> mhr3_: hm no pin entry possible in the indicators..
[13:04] <mhr3_> tsdgeos, yep, fixed
[13:04] <mhr3_> tsdgeos, btw all the widgets still disappear sometimes when swiping through the previews and going back
[13:24] <mhr3_> tsdgeos, also from the designs it looks like they want to put art-less cards into an ubuntushape
[13:24] <mhr3_> not sure if that's even supported
[13:24] <mhr3_> and mascot shouldn't be in ubuntushape
[14:01] <tsdgeos> mhr3_: the disapearring is because the listview chnages, i'll add it to the list to see how hard or not is to fix
[14:02] <tsdgeos> mhr3_: to be honest i haven't done much regarding the card layouts, not sure what is supported or not, if you give me an specific example i can dig on it
[14:02] <mhr3_> tsdgeos, i'm trying to get cards like https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/file/d/0B-a_7E3tDxOgQ002UmQxbjJmMHc/edit
[14:03] <mhr3_> minus the custom background color
[14:03] <tsdgeos> so mascot, title et all
[14:03] <tsdgeos> mhr3_: doesn't work at all?
[14:03] <tsdgeos> mhr3_: if you give me the json you're using i can make it work if needed
[14:04] <mhr3_> tsdgeos, http://imgur.com/PxvSV1q
[14:04] <mhr3_> grid, medium, using title, subtitle, mascot
[14:04] <tsdgeos> ok, i'll have a look
[14:05] <mhr3_> tsdgeos, note that mascots in previews do have the ubuntushape
[14:05] <tsdgeos> mhr3_: you're sure they never have to have it?
[14:05] <tsdgeos> or?
[14:05] <mhr3_> ^
[14:06] <mhr3_> tsdgeos, rosie will know if never ever :)
[14:06] <mhr3_> anyway, /me lunch
[14:06] <tsdgeos> err
[14:06] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: wtf happened on the train ci document?
[14:07] <tsdgeos> sil2100: didrocks: any idea why it replaced all our stuff we had written in there?
[14:07] <didrocks> tsdgeos: seems that google is having some issues
[14:07] <didrocks> tsdgeos: the spreadsheet was reverted + some random failures when editing cells
[14:08] <tsdgeos> awesome
[14:08] <didrocks> I opened a RT for that, being fighting it for 5 hours
[14:08] <didrocks> yeah awesome, really having fun :/
[14:08] <tsdgeos> that'll teach us of depending on google for crucial stuff
[14:08] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: huh?
[14:08] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: the MP have gone away and there's the old content, and a nice warning syaing we are doing it wrong
[14:09] <tsdgeos> well they are doing it wrong for overwriting the stuff we had
[14:09] <mzanetti> spreadsheets yay :)
[14:10] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: hmm... not sure... maybe kgunn resumed his machine and that implicitly saved the old state again or something like that
[14:11] <didrocks> mzanetti: I wonder if there isn't any crazy client, yeah
[14:11] <kgunn>  tsdgeos mzanetti i'm on it
[14:11] <didrocks> even if you edit the spreadsheet, it's telling "last edit was 10 hours ago"
[14:12] <mzanetti> didrocks: side question: is it important to put links to merge requests there or are branches ok too?
[14:12] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: look at the red cell
[14:12] <mzanetti> hah. right
[14:12] <mzanetti> yeah
[14:12] <didrocks> mzanetti: MP requests is important, as it's what is being checked for following the MP procedure
[14:13] <mzanetti> yeah, that's what I thought
[14:13] <mzanetti> could it be that using branches in there messed it up?
[14:14] <didrocks> I don't think so, it's free-form text for the scripts
[14:15] <mzanetti> kgunn: jfi: I've updated it to contain all the approved branches from there: https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity8/trunk/+activereviews
[14:15] <didrocks> the issue is global on the spreadsheet, even showing/hiding a column is resulting in an error
[14:15] <mzanetti> kgunn: so if you're updating it again, I guess that's what it should be
[14:15] <mzanetti> + any unity-mir stuff
[14:15] <didrocks> mzanetti: see, I see your changes, but it's telling "last edit was 10 hours ago"
[14:16] <kgunn> mzanetti: when you say "it"...do you mean cell F75 ?
[14:16] <mzanetti> kgunn: yes
[14:16] <kgunn> i just updated based on the list albert gave me...i'll go check against approved
[14:16] <mzanetti> kgunn: yeah, albert and me approved a bunch of branches today morning
[14:16] <kgunn> mzanetti: it appeared "old"....i didn't see your changess
[14:17] <didrocks> juts tell me once it's ready
[14:17] <mzanetti> didrocks: yeah, that seems wrong. should be 4 - 5 hours by now
[14:17] <kgunn> mzanetti: i'll sort it
[14:17] <mzanetti> kgunn: so yeah, its the existing unity-mir stuff + all approved in unity8
[14:18] <kgunn> mzanetti: when you say "existing unity-mir" stuff am i safe to just take all the approved MP's there ? or are you after something specific ?
[14:18] <mzanetti> kgunn: I mean those already In the document. all I did for unity-mir was to convert them to point to MPs instead of branches
[14:19] <mzanetti> not added any new ones
[14:20] <kgunn> mzanetti: ok, i just reloaded the spreadsheet...and looking at cell F57 i see no unity-mir mp's
[14:21] <mzanetti> hmm... damn... I could swear there was one... but maybe I'm wrong then
[14:24] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: i think there was none
[14:25] <tsdgeos> unity-mir branches i mean
[14:30] <tsdgeos> kgunn: video call?
[14:30] <tsdgeos> @unity: video call?
[14:31] <dandrader> oh no
[14:33] <tsdgeos> dandrader: what no?
[14:34] <dandrader> video call. takes me a while to get the laptop etc
[14:44] <greyback> mterry: as part of the qml compositor work, notification of frame ready to draw was important (includes first frame ready) - this was my rough approach: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~gerboland/+junk/mir-for-qpamirserver/revision/1198
[14:45] <greyback> mterry: do have a chat with racarr, as he's working on trying to add that notification to Mir properly
[14:45] <mterry> greyback, thanks will look
[14:45] <mterry> oh nice
[14:55] <mhr3> tsdgeos, the spec was updated https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/1n880Fih5KyGPcoP5chidnHDG_8TxXUgSuij7f4rHpuk/edit?pli=1#heading=h.9298l1cke028
[14:55] <mhr3> (ubushape stuff)
[14:56] <tsdgeos> ok
[15:09] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: can you press the build button on sili 9?
[15:09] <tsdgeos> kgunn: or you?
[15:10] <tsdgeos> sili -> silo
[15:10] <kgunn> tsdgeos: you got it
[15:12] <tsdgeos> mhr3: i'm going to have look at the carousel/grid thing
[15:12] <tsdgeos> mhr3: do yo have an easy way to make it happen?
[15:16] <mhr3> tsdgeos, i'm getting it on the phone when i search in videos
[15:16] <mhr3> cause it's not like i had hundreds of videos there
[15:21] <tsdgeos> mhr3: it works for me in the unity-scope-tool
[15:21] <tsdgeos> mhr3: i search for maps
[15:21] <tsdgeos> there's two results
[15:22] <tsdgeos> then override the thing to carousel
[15:22] <tsdgeos> and i still get a grid
[15:22] <tsdgeos> mhr3: can you check if that works for you?
[15:23] <mhr3> tsdgeos, when doing that yes it does
[15:23] <tsdgeos> :/
[15:23] <mhr3> i think the "go from carousel to grid" is broken
[15:25] <tsdgeos> mhr3: is there a scope for the desktop that would give me a carousel by default?
[15:26] <mhr3> tsdgeos, unity-scope-mediascanner2
[15:28] <om26er> tsdgeos, Hey! how to test the new-scopes branch ? I ran unity from it and nothing showed up
[15:29] <tsdgeos> om26er: how did you install it?
[15:29] <om26er> tsdgeos, on desktop ran ./build and for a nexus 4 build a deb from jenkins
[15:29] <tsdgeos> om26er: use the demo-stuff ppa since you need to get the new scopes too
[15:30] <tsdgeos> om26er: https://launchpad.net/~unity-team/+archive/demo-stuff
[15:31] <om26er> tsdgeos, great, testing now
[15:36] <tsdgeos> mhr3: so we need a new way for the json to give us a color (regarding the shaping)?
[15:36] <tsdgeos> mhr3: any clue how to make unity-scope-mediascanner2 find anything in my pc?
[15:36] <mhr3> tsdgeos, it should search your ~/Music
[15:37] <tsdgeos> ok i'll put something in that folder then
[15:37]  * tsdgeos creates the folder
[15:38] <tsdgeos> Caught exception from create_query()Caught exception from create_query()Caught exception from create_query()Caught exception from create_query()Caught exception from create_query()
[15:38] <tsdgeos> ** (process:13771): WARNING **: Unable to allocate query: S'ha esgotat el temps d'espera
[15:38] <tsdgeos> doesn't look good
[15:41] <mhr3> tsdgeos, what does the last thing mean?
[15:41] <tsdgeos> that's what searching for music gives me :D
[15:41] <tsdgeos> on unity8
[15:41] <tsdgeos> ah sorr
[15:41] <tsdgeos> you mean the catalan part :D
[15:41] <mhr3> yes
[15:41] <tsdgeos> basically timeout
[15:41] <tsdgeos> there's no waiting time left
[15:41] <mhr3> tsdgeos, start mediascanner2; restart scope-registry
[15:41] <tsdgeos> would be the rough translation
[15:43] <tsdgeos> same thing
[15:43] <tsdgeos> ah wait mediascanner is using my cpu
[15:43] <tsdgeos> let it do stuff then
[15:43] <mhr3> tsdgeos, latest libunity-scopes0 & unity-plugin-scopes?
[15:43] <tsdgeos> from demo-stuff yes
[15:43] <mhr3> latest is in distro :)
[15:44] <mhr3> the question is whether it will even finish, iirc it wasn't much tested on the desktop
[15:45] <tsdgeos> well yes, i'm totally dist-upgraded
[15:45] <tsdgeos> ah nice
[15:45] <tsdgeos> it's back at 99%
[15:45] <tsdgeos> i remember why i deleted it
[15:45]  * tsdgeos kills it again
[15:45] <mhr3> tsdgeos, but this is mediascanner2!
[15:46] <mhr3> it's supposed to like... work and stuff
[15:49] <mhr3> tsdgeos, on, wait got better idea how you can get carousel
[15:50] <mhr3> tsdgeos, the onlinemusic scope installs a renderer.json, just change that
[15:50] <mhr3> should take effect on next search
[16:03] <mzanetti> anpok: ping
[16:03] <tsdgeos_> mzanetti: build is done
[16:03] <mzanetti> tsdgeos_: nice
[16:03]  * mzanetti prepares a device
[16:03] <tsdgeos_> mzanetti: i'll run autopilot twice and qmluitests too, can you do one autopilot and the manual piloting?
[16:04] <mzanetti> tsdgeos_: awesome. seems we developed a quite efficient workflow with this :D
[16:04] <tsdgeos_> mhr3: tx, will check
[16:06] <anpok> mzanetti: pong
[16:06] <mzanetti> anpok: hey. I've just seen this bug you reported: https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-network/+bug/1279335
[16:07] <mzanetti> anpok: this _should_ be working...
[16:07] <mzanetti> if not, then something is broken
[16:08] <mzanetti> anpok: so the pin entry dialog sits in unity. what happens is that the network indicator triggers a notification and unity displays that
[16:08] <mzanetti> did it not trigger the dialog for you?
[16:11] <tsdgeos_> Cimi: do not understand this question "Question, is total of Ubuntu.DownloadDaemonListener 0.1 always > 0?"
[16:12] <Cimi> tsdgeos_, 'total'
[16:12] <Cimi> tsdgeos_, if it's 0, we divide by 0
[16:12] <Cimi> tsdgeos_, was just thinking of corner cases
[16:12] <mzanetti> its javascript. what can happen :P
[16:12] <Cimi> tsdgeos_, btw, you appear as a pink coloured nick
[16:13] <tsdgeos_> i'm with mzanetti
[16:13] <Cimi> tsdgeos_, very girlie, sorry
[16:13] <tsdgeos_> it's javascript
[16:13] <tsdgeos_> nothing will crash
[16:13] <mzanetti> actually that was a joke
[16:13] <tsdgeos_> Cimi: besides this code is just a copy & paste from what we have in the other preview
[16:13] <tsdgeos_> Cimi: so i will guess it's working
[16:13] <Cimi> tsdgeos_, no reason why we should not fix if there are issues
[16:14] <tsdgeos_> Cimi: sure, what is the issue?
[16:14] <Cimi> apart that /me remembers a bug with progress
[16:14] <Cimi> tsdgeos_, 55	+                var percentage = parseInt(received * 100 / total);
[16:14] <Cimi> 56	+                progressBar.value = percentage;
[16:14] <mzanetti> hmm... true... I think it doesn't crash but might cause percentage to be infinite or something like that
[16:14] <Cimi> can we rely on total?
[16:14] <tsdgeos_> hmmmm
[16:14] <tsdgeos_> wait where is that parseInt comming from
[16:14] <Cimi> tsdgeos_, your code
[16:15] <Cimi> hah
[16:15] <tsdgeos_> Cimi: my copied code ;)
[16:15] <Cimi> +1 :P
[16:15] <Cimi> apparently it's something coming down from dbus
[16:15] <tsdgeos_> ok, that's javascript proper
[16:15] <Cimi> I had a quick look before on the plugin code, briefly
[16:15] <Cimi> it looked to me it was coming from somewhere else
[16:16] <tsdgeos_> parseInt i am asking
[16:16] <tsdgeos_> not total
[16:16] <tsdgeos_> total comes from dbus yes
[16:16] <tsdgeos_> Cimi: so what is the solution if total is 0
[16:16] <Cimi> mzanetti, https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity8/+bug/1230204 ?
[16:16] <Cimi> tsdgeos_, well, it's a division by 0
[16:16] <tsdgeos_> Cimi: yes
[16:16] <mzanetti> Cimi: no. that's not the one I remember. But I think I had something like this in xbmcremote
[16:17] <Cimi> tsdgeos_, not sure what js does
[16:17] <tsdgeos_> and that returns a NaN
[16:17] <tsdgeos_> Cimi: so what should percentage be
[16:17] <tsdgeos_> 0
[16:17] <tsdgeos_> 100?
[16:17] <Cimi> I'd say 0
[16:17] <Cimi> well, received has to be more than total
[16:17] <mzanetti> shouldn't it actually paint the unknown duration progressbar?
[16:17] <Cimi> sorry, less
[16:17] <mzanetti> with the continuous animation
[16:19] <mzanetti> Cimi: check the uitk gallery -> Progress and acitvity -> infinite progress bar
[16:20] <Cimi> tsdgeos_, ^
[16:20] <Cimi> mzanetti, it's not my branch :P
[16:20] <mzanetti> sorry... thought you asked the question
[16:20] <Cimi> mzanetti, I'm just being the saviq of the situation
[16:20] <mzanetti> aaahhh
[16:20] <Cimi> mzanetti, needs fixing everything I see
[16:20] <Cimi> ahaha
[16:20] <mzanetti> :D
[16:20] <Cimi> mzanetti, needs fixing!
[16:20] <Cimi> mzanetti, it should be :-D
[16:20] <mzanetti> I'm afraid so
[16:20] <tsdgeos_> Cimi: pushed
[16:21] <mzanetti> tsdgeos_: seems silo 009 doesn't boot successfully
[16:21] <tsdgeos_> mzanetti: : that's baaaad :D
[16:21]  * mzanetti tries with a clean flash, just to be sure
[16:21] <tsdgeos_> what did we break?
[16:22] <mzanetti> dunno... unity8 doesn't start... sensorservice on 100% since a while now
[16:22] <mzanetti> actually 103.8%
[16:22] <mzanetti> :P
[16:22] <mzanetti> Needs fixing!
[16:23] <tsdgeos_> mzanetti: works here
[16:23] <tsdgeos_> i had a clean image
[16:23] <tsdgeos_> added the ppa
[16:23] <tsdgeos_> update, dist-upgrade, reboot
[16:23] <tsdgeos_> and i have stuff on screen
[16:23] <mzanetti> yeah... did have clean image + yesterday's silo which should be exactly what the lasted upgrade would give me anyways
[16:23] <mzanetti> but just to make sure, flashing now
[16:24] <anpok> mzanetti: yes didnt happen
[16:25] <mzanetti> anpok: do you have an item "Enter sim pin" below the list of WiFi networks?
[16:25] <anpok> mzanetti: sim card in - boot - unity8 starts -> pin entry pops up on its own?
[16:25] <anpok> nope
[16:26] <mzanetti> anpok: hmm... then there seems to be an issue indeed. but not that it's not implemented, but more that it's broken.
[16:26] <Cimi> tsdgeos_, can we use anchors instead width and height? :P
[16:26] <mzanetti> anpok: can you please add that info to the bug report (i.e. Enter Sim Pin" entry doesn't show in network indicator etc)
[16:26] <anpok> mzanetti: since I never saw that I was not sure where to report it :)
[16:26] <tsdgeos_> Cimi: we can, don't see a need tbh
[16:26] <anpok> sure
[16:27] <mzanetti> anpok: no problem. thanks for reporting :)
[16:27] <Cimi> tsdgeos_, saviq asked on my reviews
[16:27] <Cimi> tsdgeos_, maybe he has his own reasons
[16:27] <anpok> mzanetti: another thing
[16:27] <tsdgeos_> Cimi: he asked on mine too, i told him to stop asking silly stuff :D
[16:27] <Cimi> tsdgeos_, btw, test name is PreviewHeaderTest
[16:27] <tsdgeos_> Cimi: wops, too much c&p
[16:27] <Cimi> tsdgeos_, ahahah
[16:28] <anpok> mzanetti: I still want to avoid the alpha channel were possible..
[16:28] <Cimi> tsdgeos_, I'duse light grey as rectangle color, in line with dash
[16:28] <tsdgeos_> Cimi: where?
[16:28] <Cimi> tsdgeos_, test
[16:28] <tsdgeos_> instead of the red?
[16:28] <tsdgeos_> or the white?
[16:28] <Cimi> tsdgeos_, actually, since you import ubuntu components, use the palette
[16:29] <tsdgeos_> Cimi: it's a test man, it just has to show the stuff on screen, not be pretty
[16:29] <mzanetti> :D
[16:29] <anpok> mzanetti: the window class in qtubuntu has an opaque property
[16:29] <anpok> but I could not see anybody using that
[16:29] <mzanetti> anpok: mhm... yeah might be
[16:30] <mzanetti> should we make use of that? can we default it to true?
[16:30] <anpok> mzanetti: we cannot dafeult all application windows to true
[16:30] <anpok> some popups need to be transparent as far as i can see
[16:30] <anpok> *default
[16:30] <mzanetti> ah right...
[16:30] <mzanetti> well, right now they're inside the shell surface anyways
[16:31] <anpok> i.e. when composing messages .. or incoming calls seem to overlay with transparent surfaces..
[16:31] <mzanetti> so yeah, unity8 needs to be transparent
[16:31] <mzanetti> but for the rest I don't think we have anything transparent (yet)
[16:31] <anpok> ah.. and on screen keyboards?
[16:32] <mzanetti> hmm... that's not transparent either as per current design
[16:32] <anpok> ok then I will dig into unity8 code
[16:32] <anpok> but maybe not this week
[16:32] <mzanetti> anpok: should be in unity-mir
[16:32] <anpok> k thanks for the pointers
[16:32] <mzanetti> np
[16:33] <mzanetti> anpok: however, you might have a chat with mterry about it as he's starting to split the unity8 surfaces into different pieces
[16:34]  * mterry looks up
[16:35] <mzanetti> mterry: do you need any transparent surface from mir?
[16:35] <mzanetti> like notifications for example
[16:35] <mterry> mzanetti, yeah, the greeter uses a transparent surface.  It's main surface is transparent so you can see the user session beneath
[16:35] <mzanetti> (I don't know how much the split greeter will dive into that - but I figured you might need such a thing)
[16:36] <mterry> mzanetti, but as far as internally, not so much
[16:36] <mzanetti> anpok: so yeah, one more consumer for a transparent surface ^
[16:37] <anpok> in any case I dont see that just changing the default will be sufficient - so there will be an API
[16:37] <anpok> https://code.launchpad.net/~andreas-pokorny/platform-api/opaque_by_default/+merge/205259
[16:38] <anpok> so here the OSK seems to make issues - where would I find the code for that one?
[16:38] <mzanetti> anpok: oh... reading tvoss's comment I might have been wrong on the OSK
[16:38] <mzanetti> anpok: it's called Maliit. the actual code is on github. but I don't know where the glue code to mir is happening.
[16:39] <mzanetti> dandrader|lunch: I think you can tell anpok where to find the OSK code...
[16:42] <Cimi> tsdgeos_, it looks like that in order to provide custom url for stars
[16:43] <Cimi> tsdgeos_, I'll have to write a custom style for rating to use in the dash
[16:43] <Cimi> this rating widget requires work to do it properly
[16:44] <tsdgeos_> Cimi: so maybe drop it for now? not sure how critical it is tbh
[16:44] <tsdgeos_> mhr3: ↑↑↑ ?
[16:44] <tsdgeos_> mzanetti: first autopilot run sccessful, running second
[16:44] <Cimi> tsdgeos_, drop what?
[16:44] <tsdgeos_> Cimi: i mean fix/do other things that may be more critical for now
[16:45] <Cimi> tsdgeos_, I only have rating on my plate now
[16:45] <tsdgeos_> Cimi: i.e. you that like pretty things, run new-scopes and fix all the uglyness
[16:45] <Cimi> and I'm happy to finish it
[16:45] <tsdgeos_> like for example no clue what happened with the greeter
[16:45] <tsdgeos_> but it's ultra black
[16:45] <mhr3> Cimi, tsdgeos_, if by default you don't have to provide any icons, i'm only happy
[16:45] <tsdgeos_> ok
[16:46] <mhr3> and if the non-default doesn't work... meh tiny bug :P
[16:47] <Cimi> mhr3, if rating-label or review-label is null, we use a default?
[16:48] <Cimi> or submit label
[16:48] <Cimi> like
[16:48] <mhr3> Cimi, yes, that's what the spec says
[16:48] <Cimi> gotcha
[16:49] <mzanetti> tsdgeos_: rebooting freshly flashed image + silo 9 packages...
[16:50] <mzanetti> yep. looking better
[16:50]  * mzanetti walks through the checklist
[16:53] <mzanetti> dednick: hmm... seeing something weird in the indicators...
[16:53] <dednick> ?
[16:53] <mzanetti> if you pull down and then move left/right to switch tabs, it doesn't always follow the finger
[16:53] <mzanetti> as in: if you move the finger while another move animation is running, it doesn't get that secnd movement any more
[16:54] <dednick> hm
[16:54] <mzanetti> could that be something introduced by the 2 indicator branches?
[16:54] <mzanetti> I don't remember seeing that in trunk... but I'm not sure
[16:55] <dednick> mzanetti: so it's not getting to the correct indicator?
[16:55] <mzanetti> dednick: yeah
[16:56] <dednick> mzanetti: which image?
[16:56] <mzanetti> freshly flashed trusty-proposed + silo 009 packages
[16:56] <mzanetti> whcih contain: https://code.launchpad.net/~nick-dedekind/unity8/indicator-client-profile-switch/+merge/203985
[16:57] <mzanetti> and https://code.launchpad.net/~nick-dedekind/unity8/plugin-qml/+merge/203810
[16:57] <mzanetti> ok. its probably not the latter one
[16:58] <dednick> mzanetti: hm. i doubt its either of those.
[16:58] <mzanetti> dednick: its not completely broken... but I remember this used to be working better
[16:58] <dednick> possibly lp:~nick-dedekind/unity8/indicators.better-visible-items or lp:~nick-dedekind/unity8/lp1264678-indicator.misalignment
[16:58] <mzanetti> anyways... ignoring for now as its really just a small visual glitch
[16:58] <tsdgeos_> mzanetti: second autopilot successful too, going to run the qmluitests now
[16:58] <Cimi> can I make a button half transparent when it's disabled?
[16:59] <Cimi> in the previews... want to make the submit button transparent when the review is required and you didn't add it
[16:59] <Cimi> oh actually, there's a palette!
[16:59] <dednick> mzanetti: does the swiping just feel a bit "sticky"? or is there something  more specific?
[17:00] <mzanetti> dednick: it just feels a bit sticky so to say... sometimes it misses a finger movement if its still busy animating the previous finger movement
[17:00] <dednick> by swiping i mean tab switching by left/right move
[17:00] <mzanetti> but moving the finger a bit more makes it recover again
[17:01] <dednick> mzanetti: any vertical movement while swiping?
[17:01] <mzanetti> hmm... maybe a little bit... but not really
[17:02] <dednick> mzanetti: hm. it does feel a bit sticker than it used to i think
[17:02] <dednick> mzanetti: i'll have to go back through revisions to figure it out though
[17:02] <mzanetti> yeah... its actually not even easy to reproduce manually... but if you just use it, every once in a while it ends up at the wrong one
[17:03] <mzanetti> dednick: in any case. not blicking the release on it
[17:03] <dednick> ok, can you log a bug?
[17:03] <dednick> mzanetti: ^
[17:03] <mzanetti> ok
[17:03] <dednick> thanks
[17:06] <mzanetti> tsdgeos_: silo9 works for me. in the manual testing. let me know when the second AP run is done and I'll approve it
[17:06] <tsdgeos_> mzanetti: second autopilot is done, i want to run qmluitests once
[17:06] <tsdgeos_> will take a bit
[17:06] <mzanetti> oh right
[17:06] <mzanetti> tsdgeos_: you doing qmltests on the phone?
[17:07] <tsdgeos_> i'm going to risk it :D
[17:07] <tsdgeos_> mzanetti: why?
[17:07] <mzanetti> tsdgeos_: last time I tried I think there were sme issues because of the stuff we paint around it (controls etc)
[17:07] <mzanetti> they were to big for the screen and caused issues
[17:07] <tsdgeos_> ah
[17:07] <tsdgeos_> may happen
[17:07] <dandrader> anpok, mzanetti: OSK code: lp:ubuntu/maliit-framework and lp:ubuntu-keyboard
[17:07] <tsdgeos_> ok, let me run them on the PC then
[17:07] <mzanetti> thanks danie
[17:07] <mzanetti> l
[17:08] <mzanetti> tsdgeos_: well, ideally that would work too
[17:08] <mzanetti> so wouldn't hurt pasting the failures somewhere
[17:10] <tsdgeos_> ok
[17:12] <mhr3> robru, ideas when will unity-scope-scopes get from the new queue?
[17:12] <robru> mhr3, didrocks is here today so it's up to him to fix it... should be soonish
[17:28] <tsdgeos_> mzanetti: qmluitests fine on PC
[17:30] <mzanetti> tsdgeos_: ack. will push the button
[17:30] <tsdgeos_> ok
[17:31] <mzanetti> didrocks: Testing done on Silo 9 :)
[17:31] <didrocks> thanks mzanetti
[17:32] <Cimi> mmm rating widget
[17:32] <Cimi> I have enough :)
[17:32] <Cimi> hah
[17:39] <karni> tsdgeos_: from blueprint "[saviq] greeter with paper overlay - with dash - Saviq: INPROGRESS" -- do you know anything about this?
[17:40] <karni> It does in fact look bit strange to have this vilolet/aubergine greeter, and paper dash background, perhaps I could fix it later today.
[17:40] <karni> mterry: actually, you might know something ^
[17:41] <mterry> karni, I haven't been following the paper design changes
[17:41] <mterry> karni, I haven't heard what design wants for the greeter
[17:42] <karni> I assume they want greeter with paper overlay, since that's what Saviq ^ seemed to have worked on
[17:42] <karni> And since he's not here, we might want to pick this up (might be me, just going through list of items we need to wrap some work)
[17:48] <mterry> karni, do we have a mockup?
[17:49] <karni> of the greeter? don't know, will check
[17:50] <karni> mterry: can't see it in design drive. will contact design.
[17:51] <karni> mterry: btw what have you been working on with then? for the multiple user greeter?
[17:52] <karni> mterry: sent e-mail, Cc'ed you
[17:53] <mterry> karni, cool thanks
[17:54] <mterry> karni, I've been working on splitting the greeter out into a separate process managed by lightdm, run under a different user
[17:54] <mterry> karni, this is needed to eventually have actual security for the user session
[17:55] <karni> mterry: I see. so, little to do with UI
[17:55] <mterry> karni, the basics of the split are easy, but there are so many points of communication between the user session and greeter and hitting odd Mir cases since I'm pushing its use cases
[17:55] <mterry> karni, right, that's why I haven't been paying much attention
[17:55] <karni> I need leave for ~3 hours to the airport, I'll be back after that time. Sorry for my spotty presence, guys :/
[17:55] <karni> mterry: ack
[17:55] <mterry> karni, if I do my job right, no one will notice a darn thing.  Which is sort of frustrating  ;)
[17:55] <karni> hahaha
[17:55] <karni> :)
[17:56] <kgunn> mzanetti: do you know if anyone is promoting the packages to archive from the unity8 landing attempt ? (moments ago)
[17:58] <dandrader> tsdgeos_, still there?
[18:01] <mzanetti> kgunn: Is there anything special we need to do?
[18:01] <kgunn> mzanetti: nope just checking
[18:01] <mzanetti> kgunn: I've set "Testing done" to yes and pinged the release team about it. afaik that should make it happen soon
[18:01] <kgunn> mzanetti: who on rel team ?
[18:01] <mzanetti> didrocks:
[18:02] <kgunn> ack
[18:04] <didrocks> mzanetti: it's released bt (well, migrating to the archive)
[18:04] <didrocks> you will just need to merge and cleaned once it reaches the release pocket
[18:05] <mzanetti> didrocks: perfect. thanks!
[18:05] <mzanetti> kgunn: ^
[18:05] <didrocks> yw
[18:05] <didrocks> hum, seems someone rerun the build job after it though
[18:05] <didrocks> kgunn: it's you, what have you done? :)
[18:06] <mzanetti> :D
[18:06] <kgunn> didrocks: its why i was asking around...
[18:06] <didrocks> kgunn: this didn't had any impact, just run "merge and clean" as expected
[18:06] <didrocks> ah ok
[18:06] <kgunn> i accidently hit the 009 instance
[18:06] <kgunn> i figured
[18:06] <kgunn> cause you use ppas right didrocks
[18:06] <kgunn> ?
[18:06] <didrocks> kgunn: no worry, you will just have some RED on the spreadsheet, color is nice as well!
[18:06] <didrocks> yep
[18:07] <kgunn> didrocks: you should have seen my face when i realized what i had hit
[18:07] <didrocks> kgunn: let me run "merge and clean" right now, it will be another kind of red
[18:07] <didrocks> ahah :)
[18:07] <didrocks> red as well? ;)
[18:07] <kgunn> something like that
[18:07] <didrocks> kgunn: so, I just run "merge and clean" right now
[18:07] <didrocks> (a little bit early, of course, unity8 isn't in the release pocket yet)
[18:07] <didrocks> but at least, the red in the spreadsheet will make more sense
[18:08] <didrocks> it's telling you it's in proposed)
[18:12]  * kgunn unlocks a way to get release guys to hit buttons sooner :)
[18:15] <didrocks> kgunn: well, not really, you will still have to run merge and clean (and the publication was done already :p)
[18:15] <didrocks> kgunn: however, you just made me more satisfied to have done the "check previous step" security :)
[18:36] <tsdgeos> karni: mterry: yeah someone needs to make the new-scopes greeter look not totally ugly, if you have time for that, awesome
[19:08]  * greyback eod
[19:16] <anpok> greyback:
[19:16] <anpok> ignore /me
[20:34] <karni> mterry: I guess no change to greeter background (see e-mail_
[20:34] <mterry> karni, well, it is our brand colors at least.  Could have been green & orange
[20:34]  * karni falls of the chair :D
[20:58] <kgunn> its gonna make this bug stand out like a turd in a puch bowl mterry
[20:58] <kgunn> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mir/+bug/1279078
[20:59] <kgunn> its was kind of camouflaged when dash & greeter were similar
[20:59] <kgunn> that high contrast is gonna get some comments :)
[20:59] <mterry> kgunn, if you say so...  I still shiver every time I turn my device on
[21:00] <kgunn> mterry: i know
[21:00] <mterry> kgunn, so that might arguably be a dup of bug 1279422, depending on how Mir folks want to solve it
[21:00] <kgunn> mterry: yeah....partly, but i think not totally the same right?
[21:02] <mterry> kgunn, yeah they may have different technical solutions.   :)


[00:13] <CIA-28> ubiquity: cjwatson * r3196 ubiquity/debian/ (changelog init):
[00:13] <CIA-28> ubiquity: Try a couple of different locations for NetworkManager's init script
[00:13] <CIA-28> ubiquity: (LP: #356813).
[00:24] <CIA-28> console-setup: cjwatson * r102 ubuntu/ (Keyboard/kbdcompiler debian/changelog debian/config.proto): Treat the Kazakhstan layout (kz) as non-Latin (LP: #356816).
[00:26] <CIA-28> ubiquity: cjwatson * r3197 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/components/console_setup.py):
[00:26] <CIA-28> ubiquity: Sync with console-setup 1.28ubuntu8: treat the Kazakhstan layout (kz) as
[00:26] <CIA-28> ubiquity: non-Latin (LP: #356816).
[00:28] <CIA-28> oem-config: cjwatson * r652 trunk/ (debian/changelog lib/components/console_setup.py):
[00:28] <CIA-28> oem-config: Sync with console-setup 1.28ubuntu8: treat the Kazakhstan layout (kz) as
[00:28] <CIA-28> oem-config: non-Latin (LP: #356816).
[01:00] <CIA-28> debian-installer: cjwatson * r1080 ubuntu/ (35 files in 2 dirs): Update help text translations from Launchpad.
[01:07] <CIA-28> partman-base: cjwatson * r154 ubuntu/debian/po/ (19 files): Update Ubuntu-specific strings from Launchpad.
[01:13] <CIA-28> pkgsel: cjwatson * r137 ubuntu/debian/po/ (el.po ko.po): Update Ubuntu-specific strings from Launchpad.
[01:15] <CIA-28> user-setup: cjwatson * r173 ubuntu/debian/ (changelog po/ca.po po/el.po): Update Ubuntu-specific strings from Launchpad.
[01:21] <CIA-28> console-setup: cjwatson * r103 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.28ubuntu8
[01:36] <CIA-28> ubiquity: cjwatson * r3198 ubiquity/debian/ (80 files in 2 dirs): Update translations from Launchpad.
[01:41] <CIA-28> oem-config: cjwatson * r653 trunk/debian/ (64 files in 2 dirs): Update translations from Launchpad.
[01:56] <CIA-28> ubiquity: cjwatson * r3199 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/components/timezone.py):
[01:56] <CIA-28> ubiquity: Work around a debconf bug which broke the default time zone for some
[01:56] <CIA-28> ubiquity: countries: REGISTER does not appear to give a newly-registered question
[01:56] <CIA-28> ubiquity: the same default as the question associated with its template, unless we
[01:56] <CIA-28> ubiquity: also RESET it, so do that (LP: #356794).
[01:59] <CIA-28> oem-config: cjwatson * r654 trunk/ (debian/changelog lib/components/timezone.py):
[01:59] <CIA-28> oem-config: Work around a debconf bug which broke the default time zone for some
[01:59] <CIA-28> oem-config: countries: REGISTER does not appear to give a newly-registered question
[01:59] <CIA-28> oem-config: the same default as the question associated with its template, unless we
[01:59] <CIA-28> oem-config: also RESET it, so do that (LP: #356794).
[02:03] <CIA-28> base-installer: cjwatson * r362 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.98ubuntu6
[02:07] <CIA-28> cdrom-detect: cjwatson * r438 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.30ubuntu3
[02:13] <CIA-28> partman-auto: cjwatson * r287 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 84ubuntu3
[02:18] <CIA-28> partman-base: cjwatson * r155 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 129ubuntu7
[02:20] <CIA-28> partman-crypto: cjwatson * r678 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 36ubuntu5
[02:24] <CIA-28> partman-target: cjwatson * r759 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 58ubuntu7
[02:26] <CIA-28> pkgsel: cjwatson * r138 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 0.20ubuntu15
[02:28] <CIA-28> user-setup: cjwatson * r174 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.23ubuntu18
[08:21] <dpm> cjwatson: hi, good morning. I've had a look at http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/d-i-translations/ after what you mentioned on ubuntu-translators about errors still being present. Do I understand it correctly that entries with the 09-Apr-2009 00:51 date (I assume you did the last script run last night) still have errors and the other ones have not got any?
[10:03] <CIA-28> oem-config: cjwatson * r655 trunk/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog):
[10:03] <CIA-28> oem-config: Automatic update of included source packages: console-setup 1.28ubuntu8,
[10:03] <CIA-28> oem-config: user-setup 1.23ubuntu18.
[10:04] <cjwatson> dpm: yes, that's right
[10:05] <cjwatson> dpm: I've noticed a fairly steady improvement since I posted about that, although one or two regressions
[10:07] <CIA-28> oem-config: cjwatson * r656 trunk/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.54.12
[10:12] <davmor2> cjwatson: did you lvm2 fix work?
[10:14] <cjwatson> it worked for me in the localised tests I was able to do; I don't know if it worked in full-scale certification tests
[10:14] <CIA-28> ubiquity: evand * r3200 ubiquity/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
[10:14] <CIA-28> ubiquity: Provide translation support for the format warning on the automatic
[10:14] <CIA-28> ubiquity: partitioning page, and make it less tied to English grammar. Thanks
[10:14] <CIA-28> ubiquity: Timo Jyrinki (LP: #356333).
[10:19] <CIA-28> ubiquity: cjwatson * r3201 ubiquity/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog):
[10:19] <CIA-28> ubiquity: Automatic update of included source packages: base-installer
[10:19] <CIA-28> ubiquity: 1.98ubuntu6, console-setup 1.28ubuntu8, flash-kernel 2.13ubuntu6,
[10:19] <CIA-28> ubiquity: partman-auto 84ubuntu3, partman-base 129ubuntu7, partman-target
[10:19] <CIA-28> ubiquity: 58ubuntu7, user-setup 1.23ubuntu18.
[10:20] <cjwatson> evand: anything else before an upload, since we need one for the final freeze? (do you want to do it or shall I?)
[10:20] <evand> give me a few minutes to squeeze in the migration-assistant fix, then I'll do the upload, if that's ok
[10:21] <cjwatson> ok
[10:21] <cjwatson> you'll need to do a debian/rules update too then, of course
[10:21] <evand> will do
[10:22] <evand> a debconf-updatepo as well for the new template, or should I avoid that for some reason?
[10:22] <CIA-28> debian-installer: cjwatson * r1084 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 20081029ubuntu32
[10:22] <cjwatson> oh, hmm. yes
[10:22] <cjwatson> I mean, yes debconf-updatepo
[10:22] <evand> ok
[10:22] <cjwatson> although there is almost no chance of any translations being in place for release
[10:22] <davmor2> cjwatson: cool :)
[10:23] <cjwatson> I can make sure LP is up to date at least ...
[10:26] <CIA-28> migration-assistant: evand * r94 migration-assistant/ (debian/changelog ma-ask):
[10:26] <CIA-28> migration-assistant: If there are no items to import, don't bother asking the question. This
[10:26] <CIA-28> migration-assistant: supports a change to ubiquity to not always show the migration-assistant
[10:26] <CIA-28> migration-assistant: page.
[10:31] <CIA-28> ubiquity: evand * r3202 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/components/migrationassistant.py):
[10:31] <CIA-28> ubiquity: Only show the migration-assistant page if we have items we can
[10:31] <CIA-28> ubiquity: import.
[10:33] <davmor2> evand: Yay
[10:34] <CIA-28> migration-assistant: evand * r95 migration-assistant/debian/changelog: Fix the last changelog update. The previous version was uploaded without updating bzr.
[10:41] <evand> cjwatson: are you able to process the approval queue or would that be a conflict of interest?  I need a m-a upload in support of this change, unless you think it's not important to warrant it, in which case I'll just shelve it for Karmic and continue with the ubiquity upload.
[10:43] <davmor2> evand: no it's important honest.  Less confusing on newcomers
[10:44] <cjwatson> evand: I think it's important but it might be better if somebody non-installer accepted it
[10:44] <cjwatson> 10:43 -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New package: migration-assistant (main) [0.6.2 → 0.6.4]
[10:45] <cjwatson> evand: you sure that 0.6.3 had been uploaded? queuebot doesn't think so ...
[10:45] <evand> hrm, I think I'm moving too quickly
[10:45] <cjwatson> not that it hugely matters, that just means a release team member will be reviewing both at once
[10:45] <evand> I assumed given that 0.6.3 was rejected as it was already in the archive
[10:45] <cjwatson> (i.e. don't reupload for that now)
[10:45] <cjwatson> but it's not in the archive, according to queuebot
[10:45] <evand>  File migration-assistant_0.6.3.tar.gz already exists in Primary Archive for Ubuntu, but uploaded version has different contents. See more information about this error in https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/UploadErrors.
[10:45] <cjwatson> blink
[10:46] <cjwatson> aha
[10:46] <evand> I figured I forgot to do a debcommit --release
[10:46] <cjwatson> migration-assistant |      0.6.3 | hardy-updates | source
[10:46] <evand> ah
[10:46] <evand> whoops
[10:46] <cjwatson> that was an unwise choice of versioning ...
[10:46] <evand> absolutely
[10:46] <evand> not sure what possessed me to do that
[10:46] <cjwatson> probably would've been ok if intrepid had been bumped to 0.7.x
[10:50] <evand> indeed, though I think 0.6.4 is fine for now, and I'll correct it going forward in Karmic
[11:29] <cjwatson> evand: oh, we should fix the scaling-up of the timezone map widget
[11:35] <evand> ok
[11:37] <cjwatson> I think it's just incorrect expand/fill
[11:37] <cjwatson> I don't have a current image though, so you might be faster if you do
[11:40] <evand> sure
[12:01] <evand> wouldn't that mean it wouldn't scale at all when the user resized the window?
[12:03] <cjwatson> yep
[12:04] <cjwatson> better to not scale than to scale to something fuzzy, imo?
[12:04] <evand> sure, but then anyone with a resolution < 1024x768 is going to automatically get a window that has the timezone map at half its size
[12:04] <evand> as that's what it sets the allocation to in that case, assuming I'm reading this correctly
[12:04] <evand> and hooray, laptop just hard locked
[12:05] <evand> err I stand corrected, X locked
[12:05] <cjwatson> right, but they probably won't be able to resize the window up to a point where a bigger map would be useful then
[12:08] <evand> ok, fair enough
[12:08] <evand> let me just test this once more to make sure I'm absolutely certain it's working
[12:16] <CIA-28> ubiquity: evand * r3203 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog gui/glade/stepLocation.glade): Don't let the time zone map image grow larger than the original.
[12:21] <evand> spot on, you raised the exact point about m-a that I wanted to bring up (being unable to import from a system you're about to delete)
[12:22] <cjwatson> I'm certainly worried about accuracy there
[12:22] <cjwatson> if m-a misses something, you're kind of screwed :)
[12:23] <cjwatson> but I was a bit bemused that the focus was on m-a in that discussion, because it seems to me that there are other much tougher points
[12:23] <cjwatson> thanks for r3203
[12:23] <evand> indeed
[12:23] <evand> sure thing
[12:31] <cjwatson> doesn't look like anyone else is around, so I've reviewed m-a and accepted it
[12:44] <cjwatson> evand: is the fix for bug 341605 rolled out now?
[12:45] <evand> should be.  Let me download a CD and double check.
[12:45] <cjwatson> evand: and I think bug 339898 needs to be closed by hand
[12:45] <cjwatson> (also, I don't think you pushed your release commit to m-a trunk?)
[12:45] <evand> ah, I was looking for that earlier!
[12:46] <cjwatson> oh, sorry, I've had it open :)
[12:47] <cjwatson> evand: you might want to unduplicate bug 349334; as far as I can tell that's the problem covered by your TODO comment
[12:47] <evand> re m-a commit> loggerhead shows it in trunk
[12:48] <cjwatson> Tree is up to date at revision 95.
[12:48] <cjwatson> $ head -n1 debian/changelog
[12:48] <cjwatson> migration-assistant (0.6.4) UNRELEASED; urgency=low
[12:49] <CIA-28> migration-assistant: evand * r96 migration-assistant/debian/changelog: releasing version 0.6.4
[12:49] <evand> ah sorry, I hadn't committed yet.  I always wait for the package to be accepted.
[12:49] <evand> done
[12:51] <cjwatson> oh, right
[14:00] <lool> cjwatson: We uploaded a fix in flash-kernel-installer yesteday, to be picked up it needs not only a debian-installer upload but also an ubiquity update; would it be possible to have an ubiquity upload today as well as debian-installer?
[14:00] <lool> Or evand, I don't know why I'm speaking to cjwatson specifically here
[14:01]  * lool realizes he has no clue how to upload ubiquity properly
[14:05] <cjwatson> lool: it can't possibly need a debian-installer upload
[14:06] <cjwatson> flash-kernel-installer isn't in the d-i initrd
[14:06] <cjwatson> lool: there should be a ubiquity upload reasonably soon containing it
[14:06] <cjwatson> evand: ^- migration-assistant source should be published now?
[14:08] <lool> cjwatson: Oh ok, I thought flash-kernel was in the d-i initrd
[14:08] <lool> cjwatson: I do need a d-i upload to test the netboot images
[14:09] <lool> cjwatson: Not in the initrd > I guess you mean the mx51 one?
[14:09] <lool> It must be in at least iop32x
[14:10] <cjwatson> lool: I uploaded d-i earlier today; it's waiting for approval
[14:10] <lool> Ah that's why, ok thanks
[14:10] <cjwatson> lool: no, it's not in any initrd; it's fetched into the installer at run-time
[14:11]  * ogra is fine adding the script manually for testing
[14:11] <ogra> would just be good to have it for tomorrows image
[14:11] <lool> cjwatson: I see; thanks for the explanation
[14:11] <cjwatson> lool: the only components that require d-i rebuilds are those that are needed by the installer in order to start up and fetch more bits of itself
[14:11] <cjwatson> a simple image rebuild will be entirely sufficient to pull in flash-kernel onto d-i-based images
[14:11] <lool> Ok
[14:12] <cjwatson> feel free to kick one off
[14:12] <lool> Concerning d-i, I'm mostly interested in testing the latest netboot kernel + initrds
[14:12] <lool> versatile and iop32x
[14:12] <lool> I could test alternate again, but I tested lpia yesterday and I'm not sure we care about the armel alternates in the form of SD cards images
[14:12] <cjwatson> problem is that slangasek isn't up yet, pitti's on holiday, and I don't want to accept my own uploads during a freeze
[14:13] <ogra> lool, itym ixp4xx
[14:13] <cjwatson> er, pitti's at a conference, rather
[14:14] <lool> ogra: Yes, that too, but I can't test ixp4xx
[14:14] <ogra> right
[14:14] <lool> ogra: Which is why I've asked you about that one
[14:14] <ogra> you knew why you gave away the device :P
[14:15] <cjwatson> is there an icon somewhere that would be useful to identify .img files on cdimage.ubuntu.com?
[14:15] <lool> cjwatson: Eh I thought the same
[14:15] <cjwatson> a bit like http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdicons/iso.png
[14:15] <lool> I think a floppy icon would be ok
[14:15] <cjwatson> anywhere I can find a 22x22 png?
[14:15] <ogra> we have beautiful SD icons
[14:16] <lool> I'm looking for one
[14:16] <ogra> cant you use that one ?
[14:16] <cjwatson> ogra: where?
[14:16]  * ogra looks
[14:16] <ogra> on my desktop if i pop in an SD :P
[14:16] <lool> /usr/share/icons/gnome/24x24/devices/gnome-dev-media-sdmmc.png
[14:17] <lool> /usr/share/icons/gnome/22x22/devices/gnome-dev-media-sdmmc.png actually
[14:17] <cjwatson> Human/22x22 rather than gnome/24x24 perhaps?
[14:17] <lool> Oh right, there's an Human one as well, just sawit
[14:17] <lool> cjwatson: +1
[14:17] <ogra> /usr/share/icons/Human/22x22/devices/gnome-dev-media-sdmmc.png
[14:17] <ogra> bah
[14:18] <ogra> i'm definately to slow
[14:18] <cjwatson> it'll be used for USB images too, though; they share an extension so I can't distinguish them
[14:19] <cjwatson> I don't think that's a major problem for the moment
[14:19] <ogra> /usr/share/icons/Human/22x22/devices/gnome-dev-harddisk.png ?
[14:20] <lool> cjwatson: If anyone ask I'll pretend they are meant for USB SD card readers   :-P
[14:20] <cjwatson> heh
[14:20] <lool> ogra: /usr/share/icons/Human/22x22/devices/gnome-dev-floppy.png !
[14:20] <cjwatson> ogra: if you're OK with that being used for SD cards?
[14:21] <ogra> well, its more generic
[14:21] <ogra> i love the SD icon though
[14:21] <cjwatson> I need a decision
[14:21] <ogra> but thats personal preference and its right that we use .img for USB as well
[14:21] <lool> I don't care either way
[14:22] <cjwatson> I'll go for gnome-dev-harddisk then
[14:22]  * lool votes for cjwatson's choice
[14:22] <ogra> saldy its white and wont have good contrast on the page
[14:23] <cjwatson> not much more so than the .iso image
[14:23] <ogra> yeah
[14:25] <lool> Oh the link is to the .ISO in the header
[14:25] <cjwatson> hmm?
[14:25] <lool> and should probably say SD card instead of install CD
[14:25] <cjwatson> oh, I'm fixing all that at the moment
[14:25] <lool> Great
[14:25] <ogra> yes, the text from the beta should go in there
[14:25] <cjwatson> I made it be "image" so that I didn't have to make it architecture-specific
[14:26] <lool> Nice
[14:26] <ogra> modulo the link to the wikipage
[14:26] <cjwatson> for karmic, can we please make different form factors have different extensions?
[14:26] <ogra> .sdimg .usbimg ?
[14:26] <cjwatson> I don't care as long as it's different
[14:26]  * ogra was hoping that the next gen babbage can use USB boot :)
[14:26] <lool> cjwatson: They really are different use cases in the same file format; shouldn't we split them up in subdirs rather?
[14:27] <lool> Oh well I guess we can have multiple extensions for the same fiel format
[14:27] <cjwatson> lool: in that case the "desktop" bit should change, or something
[14:27] <cjwatson> anyway, later :)
[14:27] <cjwatson> ogra: what should https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BabbageJauntyBetaInstall become?
[14:28] <lool> Yeah (what I had in mind was for netboot/, hd-media/ etc. like in d-i)
[14:28] <cjwatson> it would be nice if that were a persistent URL, like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Mobile/HowTo/ImageWriting
[14:28] <ogra> cjwatson, good question, we dont have a generic page for SD installs
[14:28] <cjwatson> perhaps you could just incorporate it into https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Mobile/HowTo/ImageWriting ?
[14:28] <ogra> yeah
[14:28] <ogra> point to there
[14:28] <ogra> i'll update the content later
[14:29] <cjwatson> that would be a lot easier from the cdimage point of view, since it will already point to there without me changing anything :)
[14:29] <ogra> the beta page was relly beta specific ... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Mobile/HowTo/ImageWriting already describes how to dd an image ...
[14:29] <cjwatson> ok then, I think that should basically be it sorted out now
[14:29] <ogra> though USB-imagewriter doesnt know about SDs
[14:30] <ogra> if i find a spare minuite over easter i might add support for that
[14:32] <ogra> cjwatson, oh, btw, confirming that the radiobutton issue is solved here
[14:32] <ogra> they have text again in german
[14:33] <cjwatson> yay
[14:33] <cjwatson> thank Robert
[14:34] <ogra> and partitioning the spare space on my live SD works as well
[14:37] <ogra> bah, i take back the last comment
[14:38] <ogra> silly me, indeed it needs to re-read the part. table if i create new partitions
[14:38] <ogra> so i'll install to the usb reader instead
[14:41] <cjwatson> ogra: is bug 348060 fixed now?
[14:41] <ogra> if the net flash-kernel is included in ubiquity it will
[14:42] <cjwatson> ogra: that can't possibly be an ubuntu-cdimage bug
[14:42] <ogra> the cdimage task at least, we should probably add a whishlist redboot-tools bug
[14:42] <cjwatson> ubuntu-cdimage bugs must be for the image building, not whatever happens to be in the image
[14:42] <cjwatson> didn't lool already fix that redboot-tools bit?
[14:42] <ogra> i want to add a redboot-install script similar to grub-install in KK
[14:43] <ogra> we dont have a sript doing the work yet ... you need to manually create the fis partitions, dd redboot in place dd fconfig.bin in place etc
[14:43] <cjwatson> but cdimage does that now
[14:43] <ogra> its possible to do it, but with a bunch of manual steps
[14:43] <ogra> right
[14:44] <ogra> the cdimage task can be closed
[14:44] <CIA-28> ubiquity: evand * r3204 ubiquity/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog):
[14:44] <CIA-28> ubiquity: Automatic update of included source packages: migration-assistant
[14:44] <CIA-28> ubiquity: 0.6.4.
[14:44] <ogra> i'm talking about people wanting to create bootable SDs themselves
[14:44] <cjwatson> sure, perhaps a separate bug
[14:44] <ogra> for that i want redboot-install
[14:44] <cjwatson> I'm triaging ubuntu-cdimage bugs, don't really care about the other bits right now :)
[14:45] <ogra> right, close that one :)
[14:45] <ogra> at least if flash-kernel is in
[14:45] <ogra> just testing yesterdays script changes here
[14:45] <cjwatson> a cdimage bug cannot be subject to flash-kernel changes
[14:46] <cjwatson> flash-kernel is not used in the CD image build process, as you know
[14:46] <CIA-28> ubiquity: evand * r3205 ubiquity/debian/po/ (80 files): debconf-updatepo
[14:48] <ogra> cjwatson, right, and i was mixing ubiquity with cdimage
[14:51] <kwwii> hi
[14:51] <evand> hi
[14:51] <evand> so I just wanted to move the conversation about changes to the time zone map here
[14:51] <evand> so that we could discuss it as a group
[14:51] <kwwii> right, we've had a discussion with mark who was very unhappy with the time zone look
[14:52] <cjwatson> kwwii: what version was he looking at?
[14:52] <kwwii> cjwatson: the latest daily
[14:52] <cjwatson> ok, better than beta at least
[14:52] <kwwii> right
[14:53] <kwwii> he would like to see the colors of the whole thing change...that might take a bit because I will have to export it all and then show it to him for approval
[14:53] <kwwii> as well as seeing the cities even when the timezone is not selected
[14:53] <kwwii> not the city names, just faded out dots or such
[14:53] <evand> I'm concerned on that latter point
[14:53] <evand> I think it would make it look overly complicated
[14:53] <kwwii> right, both of those things are kinda major
[14:54] <cjwatson> this also seems like something that should have been done pre-UI freeze
[14:54] <evand> and would really look awful as we don't 100% accurately project the points onto the map
[14:54] <kwwii> evand: well, if the dots were mostly tranparent they wouldn't get in your face, as long as there are not too many of them
[14:54] <cjwatson> there's one "city" for every possible timezone choice
[14:54] <kwwii> right, I was assuming that this would be hard to due to the difference of the city data and the map I made
[14:55] <kwwii> cjwatson: so you are saying that for each time zone only one preselected city will be shown?
[14:55] <kwwii> ie, the point of showing the city is to show the current time in that zone
[14:56] <cjwatson> most time zones have more than one city
[14:56] <cjwatson> the purpose of selecting a city is that it is a reasonably comprehensible way to determine both the country and the time zone in one shot
[14:56] <cjwatson> so I should have said that there's one city for every possible combination of country and time zone
[14:57] <cjwatson> (it also avoids all the geopolitical crap you get into if you try to ask people to choose countries ... the existence of cities is typically not controversial)
[14:58] <kwwii> cjwatson: ok, that is what I expected
[14:59] <kwwii> evand: most important is that we make the overlay itself look better
[14:59] <cjwatson> for jaunty I think we need to defer to evand regarding matters of map projection; that has already consumed much of Evan's time this cycle and I think we have run out of time to make it 100% accurate
[14:59] <evand> I just want to emphasize the point I made about it looking wrong if we plot every point.  We'd need to make the dots small to fit them all, and the smaller we make them, the more accurate it has to be.  And due to the projection used for the map image, that's just not possible.
[14:59] <kwwii> right, I can easily see that would be a lot of work
[14:59] <evand> ok
[15:00] <cjwatson> changing the colours is less difficult, but I'm concerned that documenters will already have taken screenshots at this point
[15:00] <cjwatson> could somebody coordinate with ubuntu-doc?
[15:00] <evand> coordinate as in tell them to retake them, or ask if it would be ok?
[15:00] <kwwii> cjwatson: I can help in any way possible to get this done
[15:00] <cjwatson> the latter prior to the former
[15:00] <cjwatson> kwwii: time machine pls
[15:00] <cjwatson> (kthxbye)
[15:00] <kwwii> ;)
[15:01] <kwwii> I forgot it as home :(
[15:01] <kwwii> misspelling a joke kinda ruins it, eh?
[15:01] <evand> right, so then are we saying we're going to just fix the colors, or take the more adventurous step of fixing the text as well?
[15:02] <cjwatson> which text?
[15:02] <kwwii> evand: I would just like to add a rounded almost black box to the background of the text
[15:02] <cjwatson> oh, that
[15:02] <kwwii> the city/time time which is overlayed
[15:02] <kwwii> currently it is almost impossible to see
[15:02] <evand> http://sinecera.de/time_mock2.png
[15:02] <evand> ^ for context
[15:02] <cjwatson> right, I'd seen that
[15:03] <kwwii> evand: yeah, but forget about the half-trasnparent version
[15:03] <cjwatson> if this can be done by the end of the week, I'm OK with it
[15:03] <cjwatson> otherwise I think it has to be out
[15:03] <kwwii> just the different dot and the background bubble
[15:03] <cjwatson> why are there two dots on that mockup?
[15:03] <evand> I can try, but I cannot promise to get it done as I have a train to catch at 7pm tonight and I still need to pack.
[15:04] <evand> but I'll definitely get started on it now
[15:04] <cjwatson> we should get an upload of the current ubiquity stuff in first
[15:04] <evand> it has been
[15:04] <evand> just waiting for approval again
[15:04] <cjwatson> oh, I didn't realise
[15:05] <cjwatson> I think it'd be better to commit the release change, TBH - it's confusing to try to do further work on the branch otherwise
[15:05] <evand> sure
[15:05] <CIA-28> ubiquity: evand * r3206 ubiquity/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.12.6
[15:05] <cjwatson> thanks
[15:05] <evand> sure thing
[15:06] <cjwatson> evand: oh, you're presumably on holiday tomorrow as well as I
[15:06] <evand> indeed
[15:06] <kwwii> yeah, I was going to skip part of the holiday to get this done :(
[15:06] <cjwatson> next time, this really needs to happen earlier
[15:06] <kwwii> cjwatson: right, totally agreed...I think we missed the testing period of this stuff
[15:07] <kwwii> probably need to coordinate this better in the future
[15:07] <cjwatson> is Mark saying "must be fixed by jaunty or you're all fired" or similar?
[15:07] <kwwii> to be honest, quite a few other people say that they like the colors and that the new time zone selector looks much nicer
[15:07] <cjwatson> because otherwise, I would rather defer changes than have people kill themselves over holidays
[15:08] <kwwii> cjwatson: right, exactly....he was very loudly unhappy about this
[15:08] <kwwii> if I could find a way to get around this I would, trust me
[15:08] <evand> I might be able to squeeze out some time this weekend, but obviously can't promise
[15:08] <evand> but I'll focus on today first
[15:09] <kwwii> evand: is there anything I can do to make this easier? do you need a graphic or something to help?
[15:09] <evand> nope, it's just cairo.  I'd concentrate on the colors for now, and do let me know if the requirements change further
[15:09] <evand> I'll keep you posted on my progress
[15:11] <kwwii> evand: cool, I'm pretty much always online and I'm happy to help whenever and however I can to get this done
[15:11] <evand> thanks, and very much appreciated
[15:11] <kwwii> evand: thanks :-)
[15:11] <evand> anytime
[15:18] <ogra> cjwatson, the reboot change wasnt in the archive yet, right ?
[15:19] <ogra> (i just see the hang here for the first time with the 09.1 image)
[15:19] <cjwatson> ogra: it should be ...
[15:19] <ogra> hmm
[15:20] <ogra> doesnt properly end the session here
[15:20] <cjwatson> ogra: oh, sorry, I got mixed up. No, it's only just been uploaded
[15:20] <ogra> right, phew
[15:21] <ogra> funny is that i didnt have it before yet, even though others reported it over and over
[15:22] <ogra> great, and the new flash-kernel-installer postinst DTRT too
[15:22] <ogra> so it looks like we have a usable image for babbage now :)
[15:22] <cjwatson> excellent
[15:23] <ogra> it still has issues, but is good as a developer image which was the target
[15:23] <ogra> (no usplash etc)
[15:55] <lool> ogra, cjwatson: Pushed a new debian-cd which will create a partition for the FIS; I consider the debian-cd / cdimage bits done now, let me know if some stuff is missing
[15:55] <evand> argh, and again X locks.  I really need to start wiring up ubiquity in the live environment via sshfs or nfs.
[15:56] <ogra> lool, i'll test the next image deeply then :)
[15:56] <lool> ogra: I reverted the change in the redboot offset in FIS
[15:56] <lool> Because it required changing the length as well, and I'm pretty sure redboot / ecos don't like that
[15:56] <lool> But I documented the reason verbosely though
[15:57] <ogra> well, if the image still works i dont care :)
[16:05] <davmor2> evand: should I write a bug about the kubuntu installer?
[16:06] <evand> please
[16:09] <davmor2> no problems
[16:09] <davmor2> did you have any joy finding out what had caused it?
[16:11] <davmor2> hello xivulon wubi r118 works a charm
[16:14] <xivulon> cool, we have to investigate this issue though 358356
[16:15] <xivulon> can you install on vista targeting a drive which is not C:?
[16:16] <davmor2> xivulon: I can but latter I need to run some other tests first.  I logged it down the minute I saw it this morning
[16:17] <davmor2> I'll add to the bug as soon as I can
[16:17] <xivulon> I can only do debugging tonight, then I am off
[16:17] <cjwatson> lool: thanks
[16:17] <davmor2> xivulon: it'll be about an hour or so
[16:17] <xivulon> that's fine
[16:18] <davmor2> evand: bug 358519
[16:18] <xivulon> evand, I do have some code for 341609 and 347449 but  it's not one liners and I would rather skip them at this stage
[16:19] <xivulon> do not think they are that important
[16:20] <xivulon> there are a couple of UI glitches left, without XP theme, in a groupbox, the box line goes through the label
[16:20] <ogra> davmor2, tsk, devs always think of beer ... bars ... /ma shakes head ... take pies !
[16:20] <ogra> *me even
[16:21] <xivulon> also the vertical image is a bit off when you use windows themes, I would assume that it has to do with dialog units
[16:21]  * davmor2 looks disdainfully at ogra and drops head in hands
[16:24] <xivulon> If I have time to work on them tonight _and_ it is a one liner that I will pull, otherwise I will leave it as is.
[16:24] <xivulon> I will push
[16:25] <xivulon> ps davmor did you have a chance to test a build pointing to the beta ISO? That is to test bittorrent downloader.
[16:26] <xivulon> davmor2, you can build one yourself by modifying the first URL in data/isolist.ini and compiling (make)
[16:28] <davmor2> xivulon: can't I just drop wubi on vista and run it from there?
[16:28] <xivulon> for vista sure, that was another issue
[16:29] <xivulon> I would like to test bittorrent, unfortunately though the preference in the metalink file for bittorrent is lower than the preference assigned to some http urls
[16:29] <xivulon> that is for the beta
[16:29] <xivulon> so I do not think that bittorrent has really been tested much other than by myself
[16:30] <davmor2> xivulon: ah right with you now.  I'll have a look at that after
[16:30] <xivulon> well you will have to change the code also, because on the ubuntu server bittorrent is assigned low priority and hence it will be skipped
[16:31] <xivulon> well in any case the code is in a try-catch statements and if there are issues with bt we can disable it remotely by modifying the metalink file...
[16:31] <xivulon> evand be aware of ^
[16:45] <davmor2> xivulon: wubi-r118.exe should run without being on the cd correct?
[16:47] <davmor2> evand: ^
[16:47] <evand> yes
[16:47] <davmor2> stgraber: ^
[16:48] <davmor2> stgraber: it should run so talk to these guys
[16:48] <stgraber> I get a ASCII unicode kind of issue from python
[16:49] <stgraber> likely something broken when using a translated OS or having special characters in the username
[16:49] <stgraber> it's not my laptop so we're currently on something else
[16:50] <cjwatson> kirkland: bug 236640 seems to have had a notable lack of love. I'm uploading a partial fix (/usr/sbin/iscsi-iname -> iscsi-iname) but it'd be really good if somebody could look at it properly, as there seems to be a bit more to it than that. For example iscsi_discovery tries to use awk which doesn't exist in the installer
[16:51] <davmor2> evand: that could be a show stopper for most of the world
[16:51] <evand> what would?
[16:52] <xivulon> davmor2 yes it should run from CD, without CD, or running from HD with a CD inserted
[16:52] <davmor2> evand:  stgraber's issue
[16:52] <xivulon> stgraber, do you have more info?
[16:53] <xivulon> particularly a log (it's in the user temp folder, %temp% in explorer)
[16:53] <stgraber> xivulon: not really, I saw the log but now the guy is gone
[16:53] <xivulon> davmor can you enter a non ascii char in the username?
[16:54] <davmor2> xivulon: I can have a look
[16:58] <davmor2> evand: bug 358548 too
[17:07] <evand> http://people.ubuntu.com/~evand/tmp/timezone.png - just need to fix up some minor nits
[17:08] <cjwatson> nice
[17:08] <cjwatson> just to check, what happens if you try to click within the text area to select a city there?
[17:09] <kirkland> cjwatson: okay, i'll have a look
[17:10] <davmor2> evand: oh pretty
[17:10] <evand> cjwatson: works as expected
[17:11] <cjwatson> good good
[17:11] <evand> that is, it selects the nearest city to where you clicked
[17:11] <cjwatson> kwwii: can you sign off on that look?
[17:12] <robbiew> evand: good work evand
[17:12] <evand> thanks
[17:21] <cjwatson> davmor2: there's an outside chance that 358548 is my fault, so I'll have a look shortly
[17:28] <evand> right, I really need to pack if I have any hope of catching this train.  I'm going to commit this as-is, and if tweaks are needed we can modify it from there.  If Mark also wants this applied to oem-config we'll need to rip the CairoExtensions class out of the segmented_bar module.
[17:31] <CIA-28> ubiquity: evand * r3207 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/timezone_map.py):
[17:31] <CIA-28> ubiquity: Draw a box around the time zone text and a highlight around the time
[17:31] <CIA-28> ubiquity: zone point so that they are more legible.
[17:33] <davmor2> bye evand
[17:33] <evand> cheers
[17:33] <cjwatson> thanks!
[17:35] <evand> anytime
[17:50] <kirkland> cjwatson: hmm, okay, just looked at the iscsi bug;  i haven't loved this bug at all in the jaunty cycle
[17:50] <kirkland> cjwatson: my understanding from dendrobates was that server transferred ownership of iscsi over to the foundations team
[17:50] <kirkland> cjwatson: hence i haven't touched it
[17:51] <kirkland> cjwatson: i'll test an iso when one becomes available with your new patch
[17:52] <kirkland> cjwatson: though, i'm at the LF conference right now, and bandwidth is abysmal
[17:52] <kirkland> cjwatson: it might be easier to wedge the udeb into a beta iso i have
[17:55] <cjwatson> kirkland: I think it may have fallen between the cracks then
[17:56] <kirkland> cjwatson: yeah, sorry about that.  i see now that it was assigned to me by slangasek
[18:10] <CIA-28> ubiquity: cjwatson * r3208 ubiquity/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
[18:10] <CIA-28> ubiquity: Stop error images always being shown on the user page (LP: #358548). The
[18:10] <CIA-28> ubiquity: GTK frontend got away with this because the widgets in question are
[18:10] <CIA-28> ubiquity: hidden in the glade file; the KDE frontend wasn't so lucky.
[18:12] <superm1> evand, i'm not sure you'd entirely want to support this yet; but would it be worthwhile to squeeze a checkbox into the advanced button of the UI for toggling the debconf for grub2 enablement?  It might prove useful to be there for helping to gather more feedback prior to the session about switching to grub2 at UDS.
[18:23] <CIA-28> ubiquity: cjwatson * r3209 ubiquity/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.12.7
[18:31] <CIA-28> casper: cjwatson * r616 trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
[18:31] <CIA-28> casper: 43disable_updateinitramfs: The /cdrom mount has been moved to
[18:31] <CIA-28> casper: /root/cdrom by the time this script runs, so check that instead.
[18:31] <CIA-28> casper: cjwatson * r617 trunk/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.172
[19:31] <xivulon> hi davmor2
[19:32] <davmor2> xivulon: hi vista extra partition done
[19:32] <davmor2> moving wubi.mbr fixes it
[19:32] <xivulon> davmor2, could you use easy bcd and let me know what is your configuration after having installed wubi in D:?
[19:32] <xivulon> I assume that vista is installed in C: and you targeted D: in wubi, correct?
[19:32] <davmor2> yeah
[19:33] <davmor2> right just booting back into vista now
[19:35] <davmor2> xivulon: how do I check with easybcd then?
[19:36] <xivulon> I haven't used it in a while but basically if you run there is a button to show current configuration
[19:41] <davmor2> xivulon: do you want this adding to the bug or just here?
[19:41] <xivulon> you can pastebin it
[19:43] <xivulon> I think I found it, ops evand is not here
[19:44] <davmor2> xivulon: no evand has gone
[19:44] <xivulon> davmor have you have ever compiled wubi 9.04?
[19:44] <davmor2> no
[19:44] <xivulon> well there is always a first time I guess :)
[19:45] <xivulon> do you feel like it? should not be too difficult
[19:45] <davmor2> can do
[19:45] <davmor2> give me a minute though
[19:45] <xivulon> do you run a 64 bit version of ubuntu?
[19:45] <davmor2> yeap
[19:46] <xivulon> then you need to install the 32bit compat libraries (forgot the name) and mingw
[19:46] <davmor2> xivulon: bcd won't let me copy paste :(
[19:46] <xivulon> I assume that you have device partition=D:
[19:47] <xivulon> should be device partition =C:
[19:47] <davmor2> partition+d
[19:47] <davmor2> path \wubi.mbr
[19:47] <davmor2> s/+/=
[19:50] <davmor2> xivulon: found a way round it :)
[19:52] <xivulon> which is?
[19:53] <davmor2> http://www.davmor2.co.uk/wcfg.jpg
[19:53] <davmor2> that's the detailed view
[19:54] <xivulon> yes that is as expected
[19:54] <davmor2> xivulon: hopefully it's legible enough
[19:55] <xivulon> I'll take it to private chate for the instructions
[23:43] <kwwii> w00t, evand rocks!


[09:53] <Guest25644> if my laptop has no operating system do i need the server as well as the desktop for ubuntu??
[09:54] <smartboyhw> Why do you need a server Guest25644?
[09:55] <Guest25644> i dont know if i do thats what i was trying to find out..
[09:55] <smartboyhw> Guest25644: I don't understand. Are you trying to install Ubuntu?
[09:56] <Guest25644> yes... my compaq presario f700 came with vista on it but it currently cannot find an operating system... so i was hoping putting ubuntu on it would fix the problem..
[09:56] <smartboyhw> Just install the desktop mate, no need for a server
[09:57] <Guest25644> cool deal... appreciate the help..
[14:20] <Guest6272> what is the best os for a compaq presario F763NR Notebook PC s/n CNF81561KH p/n KW061UA#ABA; Microprocessor1.90 GHz AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core Processor TK-57; Memory 1024 MB; Memory MaxUp to 3GB DDR2; Video GraphicsNVIDIA GeForce 7000M; Video MemoryUp to 287 MB; Hard Drive120 GB (5400 rpm); Pointing DeviceTouch Pad with dedicated vertical and horizontal Scroll Up/Down pad
[14:20] <Guest6272> ive been at this for days and still no operating system found... im starting over again what would be best to use?
[14:21] <smartboyhw> Oh my god, go to #ubuntu, this is for testing
[14:21] <smartboyhw> Of course ubuntu
[14:21] <Guest6272> y is everyone in these rooms so irate and unhelpful??
[14:22] <smartboyhw> What??? This channel IS for Ubuntu testing...
[14:29] <njin> hallo, there someone testing amd64 desktop today ?
[14:30] <smartboyhw> No:)
[14:31] <jamespage> smartboyhw, a *polite* pointer in the correct direction is often better for those who are a little lost....
[14:32] <smartboyhw> jamespage: I am being polite
[14:33] <jamespage> smartboyhw, "Oh my god, go to #ubuntu, this is for testing" is not that polite IMHO
[14:33] <smartboyhw> ...
[14:38] <jamespage> jibel: I expect that you are about to get real busy with beta-1 testing; can we grab some time next week to discuss upgrade testing for server?
[14:38] <jamespage> I've identified a few cases where we would benefit from better upgrade testing and I'd like to understand how to get it setup.
[15:01] <jibel> jamespage, of course, you're time will be mine.
[15:56] <skaet> full set of rebuilds has been kicked off.
[21:33] <nm_geo> Just got a clean Lubuntu Alternate amd64 encrypted full drive done.  Clean except for minor expected bugs.
[22:36] <phillw> nm_geo: hiyas!! they are still re spinning things
[22:36] <xnox> hardly respinning this is the first build of DVDs
[22:38] <phillw> xnox: I'm just tracking on http://pad.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-release it does appear that lubuntu has clear re spins :)
[22:39] <phillw> xnox: the others are not yet signed off.
[22:42] <phillw> xnox: any idea when studio will be re spun, the lad in Hong Kong is on a totally different TZ to me, but I can email him
[22:43] <nm_geo> Well I will have some done when re-spins happen then .. I expect re-spins
[22:44] <phillw> nm_geo: lubuntu looks pretty good to test, do let me know if the bugs are not carried over. stlsaint has worked hard to get this functionallity installed
[22:46] <nm_geo> phillw: I had to add the first set of expected minor bugs..
[22:47] <phillw> nm_geo: at least there is now an option? Give the guy a break :P
[22:47] <phillw> in the past, we lost everything"!
[22:47] <nm_geo> phillw: I think all the testing is improving Don't get me wrong
[22:48] <phillw> we could have really done without this weekend....  They duplicated my bug to a private bug like I can read and add to that
[22:52] <phillw> nm_geo: I heard that nvid had actually realised that linux existed and said that they would provide drivers?
[22:52] <phillw> nm_geo: give me the bug number, I;ll sort that out
[22:53] <phillw> red rag to a bull......
[22:54] <nm_geo> well I have a work around on my Lenovo box that works.. during plymouth I hit Ctrl-atl-T and get to a live session when everything clears up
[22:55] <nm_geo> let me look for the bug I will certainly send it to you ..It appears that has happen more than just to me.. But if they duplicate my public bug to a private bug it is SOL
[22:57] <nm_geo> My di re-size install is about to complete on my little Samsung N150 that I picked up for testing
[22:59] <phillw> nm_geo: do try dig it out. you know me..... I'll go play hell if a public bug has been kidnapped to private whereby you have no access to it with them not keeping you informed :D
[23:00] <nm_geo> phillw: I have no doubt that you would be the wrath of Hades down on them
[23:00] <nm_geo> bring
[23:01] <nm_geo> brb
[23:08] <nm_geo> phillw: there you go I just sent you a forward of the apport bug and the duplicate with my response which I know was not read nor would be read.
[23:10] <nm_geo> Got to go test my di re-size install on other laptop BRB again
[23:16] <nm_geo> Ok I finished the debian-installer for Lubuntu Amd64.. Going to hit a live desktop session and do maybe the
[23:17] <phillw> nm_geo: I've put a request in. I'll drag to a an areas seperate if needed
[23:17] <nm_geo> Do something Else we have a bug on it I want to see if cjwatson got it fixed
[23:18] <nm_geo> phillw: good luck with that I have done some reading on the duplication problem and many are not resolved
[23:19] <phillw> I already have some one on it :)
[23:20] <nm_geo> k thx
[23:22] <phillw> nm_geo: can you join #ubuntu-bugs please
[23:23] <nm_geo> phillw: Ok
[23:38] <phillw> nm_geo:  a good result :D
[23:38] <smartboyhw> Hey phillw
[23:41] <nm_geo> phillw: very good results
[23:42] <phillw> nm_geo: Do nag me about it. The wiki area does need updating
[23:43] <nm_geo> phillw: I agree and will try to nag you too
[23:44] <smartboyhw> phillw: WHat wiki update???
[23:44] <nm_geo> Hey cjwatson got the " do something else" manual install bug fixed
[23:46] <phillw> nm_geo: I'm logged onto http://pad.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-release
[23:47] <phillw> I keep asking you testers to log on there
[23:47] <nm_geo> phillw: I look LOL
[23:48] <nm_geo> phillw: you want us to sign in?
[23:48] <phillw> nm_geo: you can sign in, but must NEVER add a comment
[23:49] <nm_geo> phillw: i knew that from the death warning LOL
[23:49] <phillw> nm_geo: you are allowed to log on and watch :)
[23:50] <nm_geo> phillw: I have to tell you I have watch it some but I never could tell when I re-spins was coming
[23:50] <nm_geo> k
[23:51] <phillw> you will see what the priortys are and what is the up comming respins
[23:51] <phillw> it also holds the reasons for the older re spims
[23:52] <nm_geo> which name phillw nm_geo or gregfaith?
[23:52] <phillw> you must use your open-id log in
[23:53] <phillw> nm_geo: aka launchpad one
[23:58] <nm_geo> phillw: my launchpad id is gregfaith but it does not like it