[19:11] <pangloss> mohdrafie: linuxwireless.org
[19:11] <selinuxium> profxavier: It is a possibility, but nothing that a BIOS upgrade would not resolve... PROBABLY! :)
[19:11] <billybigrigger> pangloss, i can output any command to a txt with foo > output.txt
[19:11] <billybigrigger> ???
[19:11] <dkT> Vlet: Any ideas?
[19:11] <billybigrigger> pangloss, for example uname -r > output.txt\
[19:11] <danbhfive> gafatoa: I dunno, maybe.  I would poke around
[19:11] <billybigrigger> ??
[19:11] <Pici> mohdrafie: That should already be detected.
[19:12] <pangloss> billybigrigger: yes, and you can target what you output from a command using grep
[19:12] <lyrae> where do i go o add/remove user as admin?
[19:12] <mohdrafie> Pici: Nope. I try it on ubuntu 8.4 and ngistk wouldn't work
[19:12] <gafatoa> danbhfive, no, I'll do it with the console. Thanks !
[19:12] <nikitis> Omg, synergy is the bomb!
[19:12] <billybigrigger> pangloss, so lspci > lspci.txt | grep VGA would output only my nvidia line?
[19:12] <epl> lyrae: add the user to the "admin" group
[19:12] <pangloss> billybigrigger: so say I only want to see ethernet adaptors from lspci,
[19:12] <paul68> NeT_DeMoN: did it work?
[19:12] <Baversjo> Is there any way i could invoke a script when a user is authenicating? Not when the user is authenicated, before.
[19:12] <epl> lyrae: using the standard user manager tool
[19:13] <NeT_DeMoN> paul68: I don't know yet
[19:13] <paul68> NeT_DeMoN: ok
[19:13] <lyrae> epl: no i meant, where can i add/remove user ?
[19:13] <lyrae> i thought id have to be admin to do so, thats why i mentiond 'being an admin'
[19:13] <pangloss> billybigrigger: no like this, $lspci | grep -i vga > output.txt
[19:13] <lyrae> like a separate admin login
[19:13] <dkT> ...ANYONE got an idea, why you can't launch firefox 3 after returning from suspend mode (8.10)?
[19:13] <lyrae> so i can manage the users
[19:13] <epl> lyrae: oh, sorry... in the standard user manager tool? :)
[19:13] <Drainman> is there a way i can make apt download the cache to another directory?
[19:14] <lyrae> epl: where would that be? :p
[19:14] <JediMaster> hey guys, how do you set a static ip in intrepid? network manage always looses the settings after reoobt then reverts to dhcp
[19:14] <epl> lyrae: well, any user who is in the admin group can add or remove users
[19:14] <pw-toxic> hi - i just have upgraded my ubuntu 8.xx (??) to 8.10 - now all grafical effects are disabled, and moving a window is kinda slowy - why?
[19:14] <pw-toxic> i'm using a laptop: samsung x20
[19:14] <billybigrigger> pangloss, i option ignores everything BUT vga correct?
[19:14] <JediMaster> network-manager even
[19:14] <pw-toxic> intel grafic card..
[19:14] <epl> lyrae: somewhere under administration in the top panel thing... I think.
[19:14] <NeT_DeMoN> paul68: yeah it worked
[19:14] <pangloss> billybigrigger: no -i ignores case
[19:15] <epl> lyrae: I don't really know since I don't use gnome
[19:15] <Baversjo> Ubuntu Professionals! Is there any way i could invoke a script when a user is authenicating? Not when the user is authenicated, before.
[19:15] <NeT_DeMoN> paul68:
[19:15] <paul68> NeT_DeMoN: great
[19:15] <lyrae> epl: i looked :(
[19:15] <gafatoa> danbhfive, just done and checked in synaptic: all fine. Thanks for your help
[19:15] <pw-toxic> any suggestions?
[19:15] <danbhfive> np
[19:15] <pangloss> billybigrigger: type in $grep --help
[19:15] <NeT_DeMoN> thanks for your concern though
[19:15] <NeT_DeMoN> ^
[19:15] <mohdrafie> Will installing ubuntu 8.10 replacing 8.4 solve the wireless connection for laptop that uses quite latest wireless netwrk card (Intel PRO 3945)?
[19:15] <pangloss> billybigrigger: it will tell you everyhting there is to know about grep =)
[19:15] <paul68> NeT_DeMoN: your welcome
[19:15] <epl> lyrae: system->administration->users and groups
[19:15] <pangloss> JediMaster: rightclick on your networking icon in the system tray
[19:15] <billybigrigger> pangloss, man grep im reading...dont know what case distinctions are...?
[19:15] <haughty> Yet another java question =) since you guys usually are so helpful =) I got a datafile.txt with 4 data strings on each row seperated with a ; sign inbetween them. Im using EasyIO to print to that file and Im trying to get e.g the middle data string into a variable from that file. How can I let the prog know that the ";" sign is as a seperator and that I want to use segment nr 2 or 3 of that line ? any help is MOST appriciatable =)
[19:16] <JediMaster> pangloss: done that
[19:16] <Drainman> the thing is i dont have enough space in /var/cache and i want to uppgrade to 8.10
[19:16] <JediMaster> pangloss: and set it to manual. then reboot and the settings are gone, every time
[19:16] <lyrae> epl: thank you. now, if i delete me right now(lyrae) and create a new account...will all my settings be lost? (programs installed, etc)
[19:16] <JediMaster> pangloss: also half teh time it won't let me set the gateway, as I type it in and click on the dns server it reverts to <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:16] <pangloss> JediMaster: edit your /etc/network/interfaces
[19:16] <ri1> hi all,  i'm new to the ubuntu release and trying to make it live on a new lenovo T500.  my first install of 8.10 got as far (it appears) as installing Xwin, then dumped me into console mode.  so i backed up to 8.04, and it is working much better.  EXCEPT:  wireless, via 5100 .  i understand these drivers are in 8.10, and would like to use this newer release anyway.  but i'd appreciate any hints on EITHER figuring out what is cau
[19:16] <pangloss> JediMaster: http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-networking-for-basic-and-advanced-users.html
[19:17] <JediMaster> pangloss: done that too, but it seems to conflict with network manager
[19:17] <so1> hello
[19:17] <epl> Drainman: you can rename the /var/cache/apt/archives directory, then create a link from there to some other directory on a partition with more space
[19:17] <JediMaster> pangloss: I know how to setup network/interfaces, it's just that network-manager has broken everything since the intrepid upgrade
[19:17] <mohdrafie> Will installing ubuntu 8.10 replacing 8.4 solve the wireless connection for laptop that uses quite latest wireless netwrk card (Intel PRO 3945)?
[19:17] <pangloss> hm, JediMaster try creating another wired network connection?
[19:18] <Drainman> epl: thx should have thought about that :)
[19:18] <paul68> mohdrafie: which chipset do you use?
[19:18] <epl> lyrae: will the new user have the same name?
[19:18] <mohdrafie> intel duo core
[19:18] <pangloss> JediMaster: click add in the network-manager wired connections screen, name it static_ip or something, and put in all your info
[19:18] <so1> can anybody helo me to configure dhcpv6 please?
[19:18] <epl> lyrae: be careful, if you remove the only admin user you won't be able to log in
[19:18] <paul68> mohdrafie: for the wireless card
[19:18] <JediMaster> pangloss: done that
[19:18] <MuseIt> << ubuntu 8.10::   Is there a way to send a "Ctrl-F8" to a vbox hosted XP system from my mouse? with out having the vbox in the active window?
[19:18] <JediMaster> pangloss: then reboot and it's all gone back to dhcp
[19:18] <pangloss> JediMaster: and it deletes it every time you reboot?
[19:18] <JediMaster> yes
[19:19] <joaopinto> MuseIt, try asking on #vbox
[19:19] <pangloss> JediMaster: your second connection is completely gone? or its settings just go back to dhcp?
[19:19] <pangloss> billybigrigger: figure it out?
[19:19] <billybigrigger> pangloss, yes sir
[19:19] <JediMaster> pangloss: only got one connection, and it looses all settings and goes back to the default (even the name changes)
[19:19] <aaaaa> hi, i have started openvpn , itson, but tun device in iifconfig is missing, and /dev/tun also.(i have 8.10 server), how can i create this device ?
[19:20] <epl> lyrae: err.. what am I saying, of course you can still log in (with any other non-admin user) but you won't be able to create another admin user
[19:20] <pangloss> JediMaster: add another connection
[19:20] <JediMaster> pangloss: on the same interface?
[19:20] <pangloss> JediMaster: and set that one to automatically connect instead of auto eth0
[19:20] <billybigrigger> where do i find the changelog for what was fixed in the recent compiz updates today? i filled a bug in LP and want to know if these compiz updates will resolve my bug
[19:20] <mohdrafie> paul68: embeded intel pro
[19:20] <pangloss> JediMaster: yes, for instance I have one that connects to 802.1x
[19:21] <lyrae> epl: aye. what happened was, i changed my username to lyrae. but the home dir is still my old username. i can rename it, but im wondering if there are other things laying around with my old username's settings
[19:21] <pangloss> JediMaster: one for static
[19:21] <pangloss> JediMaster: and oen for dhcp
[19:21] <pw-toxic> can anyone help me with my graphical problem?
[19:21] <epl> lyrae: Oh, I doubt it. If the new user has the same uid as the old one, there shouldn't be any problems.
[19:21] <JediMaster> pangloss: again, it won't let me set the gateway to <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:21] <JediMaster> pangloss: it reverts to blank after I click away
[19:22] <so1> somebody knows something about dhcpv6?
[19:22] <penrod[1]> greetings: what is the easiest way to mount an ubuntu installation that has has a raid 1 partition. I do not have any user id's or passwords. just the root password, and it boots up to a gui ?
[19:22] <pangloss> JediMaster: hm.. could be a bug?
[19:22] <JediMaster> think there are a lot of network-manager bugs
[19:22] <djdiego> olaaaaaaaa alguien de mexico
[19:22] <JediMaster> =)
[19:23] <pangloss> JediMaster: makes you wish you stuck with hardy >.<
[19:23] <paul68> mohdrafie: what do you see for network drivers when you type lshw?
[19:23] <JediMaster> pangloss: fixed it
[19:23] <pangloss> JediMaster: =O
[19:23] <lyrae> epl: well instead of creating a new user and deleting the old one, i just renamed. thus same UID. i should be ok, right?
[19:23] <JediMaster> pangloss: I set it to <IP_ADDRESS> then clicked off, it worked and set it back to <IP_ADDRESS> and it's stuck now lol
[19:23] <jerome__> CCM1
[19:23] <epl> lyrae: I think so
[19:23] <lyrae> epl: lets hope so =]
[19:23] <JediMaster> pangloss: silly bug, anyhow, going to try with this second connection (not the auto eth0)
[19:23] <pangloss> JediMaster: make sure it keeps it when you restart.
[19:23] <JediMaster> going to reboot it now
[19:23] <epl> lyrae: :)
[19:24] <epl> lyrae: hmm
[19:24] <mohdrafie> PCI (sysfs)
[19:24] <epl> lyrae: actually
[19:24] <mohdrafie> then list of them coming down
[19:24] <JediMaster> pangloss: this appears to be a bug due to upgrading, afaik it doesn't happen on fresh installs,
[19:24] <epl> lyrae: if you rename your user, the new user won't be a member of the admin group
[19:24] <paul68> mohdrafie: ido you see something like broadcom or atheros?
[19:25] <pangloss> JediMaster: did it delete again?
[19:25] <Shanix_> anyone knows how to debug a VPN connection from Network manager ?? or using vpnc ??
[19:26] <ri1> ...?
[19:26] <admin_masu3701> how to call the man page?
[19:26] <mohdrafie> paul68: broadcom
[19:26] <admin_masu3701> for help
[19:26] <paul68> mohdrafie: which ubuntu version are you running?
[19:26] <jrib> admin_masu3701: man page for what?
[19:26] <mohdrafie> paul68: -network UNCLAIMED
[19:26] <Ayabara> I'm trying to get started with raw images in Ubuntu, but all my images look dull. I suspect I need a camera profile for my camera. Anyone with knowledge in this area?
[19:26] <mohdrafie> paul68: 8.4
[19:27] <lyrae> epl: =(
[19:27] <JediMaster> pangloss: yay it worked
[19:27] <mohdrafie> paul68: is it good idea to change to 8.10 or should I stick with it?
[19:27] <paul68> mohdrafie: if you can upgrade to 8.10 then you have the drivers included
[19:27] <pangloss> JediMaster: =P
[19:27] <JediMaster> looks like the "auto eth0" connection gets lost every time, but you can setup another and it works after boot
[19:27] <paul68> mohdrafie: otherwhise you have to use ndiswrapper to make it work
[19:27] <paul68> !ndiswrapper |mohdrafie
[19:28] <pangloss> JediMaster: good, just set that one to auto connect and set eth0 to not
[19:28] <admin_masu3701> jrib: the documantation page
[19:28] <mohdrafie> paul68: I see, if I were to burn the installer into a CD (as data) and then run the boot from CD. Can I after that replace the 8.4?
[19:28] <jrib> admin_masu3701: man NAME_OF_PAGE
[19:28] <JediMaster> pangloss: thanks
[19:29] <paul68> mohdrafie: you can also upgrade
[19:29] <paul68> !upgrade |mohdrafie
[19:29] <ghost3> if I close evolition will I still be alerted when I get new mail?
[19:29] <admin_masu3701> jrib: let say i want to read about string
[19:29] <admin_masu3701> jrib: so i say man string?
[19:30] <jrib> admin_masu3701: yes, but you would need to install manpages-dev first
[19:30] <ghost3> man man
[19:30] <pangloss> JediMaster: welcome =)
[19:30] <mohdrafie> paul68: Do I need the CD?
[19:30] <JediMaster> pangloss: well that's everything sorted, I had a dodgy geforce 8800gtx earlier that was so dead it actually tripped the power in the house twice in a row, so had to replace it and the motherboard, and rebooted to find it crashed half way through due to the new hardware, rebooted and lost the entire root partition, did a e2fsck check in boot disk...
[19:31] <pangloss> JediMaster: wow
[19:31] <paul68> mohdrafie: to do the upgrade you don't need the cd just read the upgrade notes in previous post
[19:31] <JediMaster> pangloss: then every directory in the root got put into lost+found without the original names. Luckily I guessed all the names, renamed them all, and rebooted and everything worked (but network-manager)
[19:32] <mohdrafie> paul68: Cheers for helping. I'll try it first. Thanks a lot for helping.
[19:32] <JediMaster> fun day =)
[19:32] <turtle_> why dont I have cube deformation?
[19:32] <JediMaster> bbl
[19:32] <paul68> mohdrafie: your welcome
[19:32] <surfmaths> I have a problem with OpenGL.
[19:33] <roswell> .
[19:33] <excitatory> so as of 8.10, I'm now using gnome (long time kde user).  I have a couple of questions though..  First, do I need to use this PulseAudio?  It seems like aRts, and I never needed that.  Plus it's using up 5% of my cpu for no reason.    I'm sticking with Yakuake, but it sucks pulling in the kde libs for a terminal.
[19:34] <MungoPark> did i mention that my dapper->hardy upgrade left me without a working gui/window environment?
[19:34] <Gnea> excitatory: as for pulseaudio, no, it's not mandatory. not sure about the rest..
[19:34] <mohdrafie> paul68: Fail download the list of changes. Please check your internet connection.
[19:34] <Gnea> MungoPark: did you skip gutsy?
[19:34] <MungoPark> well, yes
[19:35] <MungoPark> but that was an automatic upgrade
[19:35] <roswell> i have a big problem with kdetoll
[19:35] <sysdoc> excitatory, u can install KDE also, I use KDE and GDM. Pulse can be replases with alsa
[19:35] <Gnea> not sure if i've ever heard of a decent upgrade while skipping whole releases..
[19:35] <MungoPark> Gnea: the computer told me that this would be alright
[19:35] <sysdoc> replaced
[19:35] <Aeoris_> hello
[19:36] <surfmaths> I have a problem with OpenGL. When a program use OpenGL to render an area, this area overlap on all windows and make many black flash. I've made a screenshoot : http://surfmaths.dyndns.org/problem.png . Someone can help me ?
[19:36] <benj_> hi all
[19:37] <Kengine> anyone setup wifi in Lenovo T500 here ? I was running th 8.10 live cd and it doesnt detect my wifi card
[19:37] <MungoPark> Gnea: actually it might have sth to do with this libcairo2 since i get errors that say "undefined symbol: cairo_create_x.._surface"
[19:37] <paul68> !hi |benj_
[19:37] <paul68> Kengine: which chipset are you using?
[19:37] <wow> can anyone tell me an easy way to extract 200 rar files?
[19:37] <surfmaths> I'm on Ubuntu 8.10 but this problem was present on Ubuntu 8.04.
[19:37] <iskin> Programs under wine have text that is unreadable after switching to 8.10. When I increase the dpi of the fonts legibility improves but now windows are too large. Does anyone know a fix?
[19:37] <Kengine> paul68: I think it might be intel 5300
[19:37] <benj_> thx, i'm looking for an issue to my wifi problems
[19:38] <pangloss> wow: unrar *.rar
[19:38] <wow> I tried that
[19:38] <wow> well
[19:38] <Gnea> MungoPark: i'm not sure...
[19:38] <wow> unrar e *
[19:38] <pangloss> wow: in terminal??
[19:38] <MungoPark> Gnea: sth. similar to this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libcairo/+bug/176318
[19:38] <paul68> Kengine: what is the driver for your wifi should be broadcom or atheros
[19:39] <Kengine> paul68:its 11b/g Wireless Lan (its Atheros)
[19:39] <pangloss> wow: open terminal, navigate to folder, and $unrar *.rar
[19:39] <benj_> my cards : wg311v2 and an integreted card of asus motherboard (m2n32 sli deluxe)
[19:39] <paul68> Kengine: do you see the wireless driver in the restricted drivers list?
[19:39] <sar4j> wow: use find -exec {} for more info man find
[19:39] <wow> yeah.  you need to do unrar e to extract.  it went through them all and said extracting each file but they're nowhere to be found
[19:39] <Gnea> MungoPark: geez, that bug's a year old
[19:40] <Kengine> paul68: Currently I am in vista, but the Driver version is <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:40] <pangloss> wow: does it work on an individual file?
[19:40] <MungoPark> Gnea: yeah, but that matches the symptoms i have except that libgdk complains about sth else
[19:40] <paul68> Kengine: I can only help you when you under linux
[19:40] <wow> good question
[19:41] <Kengine> paul68: do you think 8.10 would detect it if I do a full installation ? I mean in live it didnt support it
[19:41] <wow> yeah, it does pang
[19:41] <perlmonkey> yes
[19:41] <wow> wait
[19:41] <Kengine> paul68: I understand, I need to go back home and use the livecd again to get into Ubuntu
[19:41] <wow> what the hell
[19:41] <pangloss> wow: do you have permissions on the files?
[19:41] <paul68> Kengine: well it might but can you see the driver in the restricted drivers list
[19:41] <wow> ok, so I tried doing it on the first file.  now it's going through all of them
[19:42] <paul68> Kengine: no problem
[19:42] <pangloss> wow: lol
[19:42] <Kengine> paul68: where is the restricted driver list ? how do I get to that ?
[19:42] <MungoPark> is there a tool that lists exports from .so libs?
[19:42] <Gnea> MungoPark: that's bizarre... someone else might know about it, or you could try searching/posting to ubuntuforums.org
[19:42] <wow> bizarre.  thanks for the help I guess lol
[19:43] <pangloss> wow: you've been linuxed!
[19:43] <Slack> Is anyone here a protech user?
[19:43] <wow> haha
[19:43] <MungoPark> Gnea: yes, maybe ill do that
[19:43] <paul68> Kengine: system > administration > hardware drivers
[19:43] <Gnea> MungoPark: ldd
[19:43] <Gnea> MungoPark: it will show what it's linked to, anyway
[19:44] <Vlet> I just compiled php with gd support, and upon running checkinstall, I see that it says it's an amd64 package when I'm on x86_64.. wha?
[19:45] <jrib> Vlet: that's just the name of the architecture
[19:45] <Le_Chat> nobody for my wifi problems ?
[19:45] <Kengine> paul68: so I try to find under that if there is an aetheros driver ?
[19:45] <Gnea> Vlet: amd64 is the name of the distribution, x86_64 is a generic term for the architecture itself - it encompasses 64bit AMD and Intel EM64T processors
[19:45] <aho_> how can I reset my settings for nautilus
[19:45] <paul68> Kengine: yes
[19:45] <aho_> when I open a folder, a new window is opened
[19:46] <Vlet> jrib, Gnea: oh well, ya learn something every day :) thanks
[19:46] <aho_> and I have no tool bars!
[19:46] <Gnea> Vlet: cheers :)
[19:46] <MungoPark> Gnea: that shows me libs that libcairo.so.2 references i guess
[19:46] <Kengine> paul68: if Aetheros is there, then what do I do ? (sorry for asking but I cant connect to internet when I am inside there)
[19:47] <Unibob|laptop> aftertoon
[19:47] <Vlet> jrib, Gnea: Do you know if there is a way to see a list of all packages installed along with their arch? I'm having trouble getting gd (php5-gd package) working, and I suspect it is because there is a 32 bit binary in the works somewhere
[19:47] <Acknix> http://www.playdeb.net/available_games.html
[19:47] <lbo_ken> hi every one i would like to know  wish programe i should use to allow to use xp/vista remote desktop viewer  to controle my ubuntu
[19:47] <Acknix> wolfensiten working for anyone?
[19:47] <Acknix> can't get it to work here
[19:47] <Gnea> Vlet: dpkg -l | grep ^ii
[19:47] <aho_> Ibo_ken: rdesktop
[19:47] <aho_> sudo apt-get install rdesktop
[19:47] <Vlet> Gnea: thanks!
[19:47] <lbo_ken> aho is it complicated to configure?
[19:47] <paul68> Kengine: if the driver is there then you know that its supported in 8.10 then you can enable it and use your wifi if that doesn
[19:48] <aho_> Ibo_ken: try it
[19:48] <aho_> (its not)
[19:48] <paul68> Kengine: doesn't work you have to use madwifi
[19:48] <Acknix> anyone know how to get the GSM codec to install?
[19:48] <Unibob|laptop> question for you guys.  wanting to install ubuntu on an unallocated partition about 50 GB in size on my desktop, how would I go about doing that?
[19:48] <paul68> !madwifi |kengine
[19:48] <aho_> Unibob|laptop: boot up into the live cd -> follow installation instructions
[19:48] <KableKiB> That's what she said
[19:48] <pangloss> Unibob|laptop: cant you just pop in the live cd and tell it to use the unallocated space on the drive?
[19:49] <KableKiB> oops wrong window...
[19:49] <Unibob|laptop> aho_ already there, just not sure about which option, would use most contiguous free space be the desired option?
[19:49] <lbo_ken> you got wrong rdesktop is to controle  my vista via my linux me its to use linux using  the viewer from xp  (exemple i go else where and i want to put a file in my  ftp  i could log as that and put it there ect
[19:49] <MungoPark> Gnea: objdump -T libcairo.so.2 shows that the "undefined symbol" is in there, so why does the computer complain ?
[19:50] <Gnea> MungoPark: i suggest http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/web/library/l-shlibs.html  and  http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/Program-Library-HOWTO/shared-libraries.html
[19:50] <pangloss> aho_: did you figure out your nautalis question?
[19:50] <lbo_ken> well that waht they say in the synaptic info ( aho_)
[19:50] <pangloss> nautilus**
[19:50] <bimberi> lbo_ken: you need VNC Viewer on xp/vista
[19:50] <Gnea> MungoPark: oh, nice
[19:50] <aho_> pangloss: no
[19:50] <Acknix> anyone know how to get the GSM codec to install?
[19:50] <aho_> Unibob|laptop: yes
[19:50] <lbo_ken> k   bimberi
[19:50] <Unibob|laptop> aho_  thank you
[19:51] <Le_Chat> how can i unload ubuntu's default's drivers? I tried to add the line "blacklist acx" into the /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist file, but my wifi card still reconized as an ACX111...
[19:51] <aho_> Ibo_ken: ahh look into tightvnc
[19:51] <pangloss> aho_: open up terminal   $mv ~/.nautilus ~/.nautilus_old
[19:51] <pangloss> then restart x
[19:51] <Gnea> MungoPark: what version of libcairo do you have installed?
[19:51] <MungoPark> i guess 1.6.0
[19:51] <Kengine> paul68: I will try to find that, but this also looks a good option http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=662877
[19:51] <rik_> hi all, anyone installed either 8.04 or 8.10 on a lenovo T400/T500?
[19:51] <bimberi> lbo_ken: and enable Remote Desktop via System -> Preferences
[19:51] <Gnea> MungoPark: dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep libcairo
[19:51] <Nergoth> Hi all
[19:52] <pangloss> !
[19:52] <Unibob|laptop> now...once the warranty is up on this, vista is going bye bye.  ;)
[19:52] <Kengine> paul68: aha Atheros ath5k wireless driver not enabled by default http://www.ubuntu.net/getubuntu/releasenotes/810
[19:52] <MungoPark> Gnea: yes, its 1.6.0-0ubuntu2
[19:52] <pal_> in which player i can play .mov files
[19:52] <sipher_> is ubuntu ever going to fix the vpn issues?
[19:52] <Gnea> Unibob|laptop: maybe you'll get lucky and they'll send you a voucher for windows 7 ;)
[19:52] <sipher_> =/
[19:53] <lbo_ken> but do isnt it a way to avoid to have to install a extra programe on windows? casue me its for when i go else wher out of my home i dont want to have to install vnc every where
[19:53] <sipher_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=813394
[19:53] <MungoPark> Gnea: i tried older versions but that didnt really help
[19:53] <Nergoth> guys, I have one question, is there any sense in configuring "libsafe" in Ubuntu Server 8.10 or something similar is already included? libsafe is only in dapper repository
[19:53] <sipher_> I'm experiencing the same issue
[19:53] <pangloss> Kengine: install linux-backports-modules
[19:53] <sipher_> and do every time I have a new ubuntu setup.
[19:53] <pal_>  in which player i can play .mov files
[19:53] <sipher_> I'm trying to connect to a PPTP Microsoft vpn server. but it doesn't work.
[19:53] <pal_>  in which player i can play .mov files
[19:53] <sipher_> I've installed the network-manager-pptp packages
[19:54] <bimberi> lbo_ken: I'm not sure but I think you can run vncviewer.exe from a disk/key without installation
[19:54] <sipher_> I've tried everything option combination in the network manager config for the VPN.
[19:54] <Kengine> thanks paul68
[19:54] <pal_>  in which player i can play .mov files
[19:54] <rogan> anyone know of a good resume building software for linux
[19:54] <Gnea> MungoPark: that is truely strange, i am not sure where to look next
[19:54] <pal_>  in which player i can play .mov files
[19:54] <sipher_> I experience this problem on every install.
[19:54] <Gnea> !repeat | pal_
[19:54] <sipher_> =/
[19:54] <pal_>  in which player i can play .mov files
[19:54] <pangloss> rogan: what do you mean?
[19:54] <lbo_ken> ill test that cause i dont want to have to install always somthing when i go some where
[19:54] <sipher_> apparently im not the only one.
[19:54] <sipher_> its damn frustrating.
[19:54] <Nergoth> guys, I have one question, is there any sense in configuring "libsafe" in Ubuntu Server 8.10 or something similar is already included? libsafe is only in dapper repository...
[19:54] <pal_> k thank q.....
[19:55] <MungoPark> Gnea, thank you. maybe Ill get back to you later. thanks
[19:55] <rogan> pangloss: suppor for writing/creating a resume
[19:55] <Gnea> MungoPark: good luck
[19:55] <pangloss> rogan: you can do a pretty good one in openoffice
[19:55] <sipher_> Nergoth libsafe can be bypassed.
[19:55] <paul68> Kengine: I'm also learning but yes you can try it
[19:55] <sipher_> Nergoth but it does prevent cook book buffer overflows / format string exploits.
[19:56] <Nergoth> sipher_, so I can install libsafe and I don't compromise security by this?
[19:56] <mohdrafie> I could not upgrade 8.4 to 8.10 due to no internet connection. Anyone?
[19:56] <Nergoth> sipher_, always more security, everything can be bypassed ;p
[19:56] <sipher_> Nergoth it would improve security. But just be aware, an attacker can bypass libsafe ie. return to libc etc..
[19:56] <zanberdo> can anyone recommend an application for creating flowcharts and diagrams?  I've been playing with Dia but I would like to try some other products based on user recommendation
[19:57] <Gnea> mohdrafie: obtain an internet connection.
[19:57] <Nergoth> sipher_, thanks
[19:57] <sipher_> np
[19:57] <suspect43> hey, why doesn't cat /dev/mouse work? i have a usb mouse. how would i find out what the relevant device is? (i looked at xorg.conf. it says /dev/psaux but that doesn't work either)
[19:57] <aho_> hmm
[19:57] <mohdrafie> Gnea: Problem with the wireless driver. Someone suggest me to upgrade to 8.10
[19:57] <sipher_> I'm curious as to why network-manager NEVER works when setup up a vpn connection out of the box?
[19:57] <Gnea> mohdrafie: then you'd need to plug in ethernet to upgrade
[19:58] <jrib> suspect43: /dev/input/*
[19:58] <mohdrafie> will that work?
[19:58] <clev> suspect43: most recent kernels will merge all usb devices into /dev/mouse or similar, so they act like a single mouse from xorg's view\
[19:58] <lbo_ken> anyone knows xrdp? ( i checkd and its a rdp server )
[19:58] <paul68> Gnea:  he's using the broadcom chipset
[19:58] <sipher_> nevermind out of the box...I've installed every peice of vpn software .. still nothen.
[19:58] <suspect43> clev: doesn't work.
[19:58] <Gnea> mohdrafie: you won't know until you try. i'm not sure about the wireless issue.
[19:58] <ssalvarani> hi all, got a big problem with grub. I have an Asus laptop with WinVista and Ubuntu Hardy. Yesterday I accidentally hit the cd-rom button when grub was loading, and now it is messed up. Grub starts loading but then the laptop resets, and the loop restarts. Anyone can help me?
[19:59] <clev> suspect43: check lsusb and dmesg to see if its detecting it right
[19:59] <suspect43> jrib: theres lots of event* files (none work), mice, mouse0, mouse1 (don't work)
[19:59] <Gnea> distribution upgrades should be over a wire anyway, in case something goes wrong
[19:59] <suspect43> clev: i can use the mouse alright, i just can't figure out which device it is. but i'll try those two
[19:59] <erUSUL> ssalvarani: the cdrom eject button? how could this mess up grub ?
[19:59] <eivindgl> q
[20:00] <paul68> Gnea: I second that motion :-)
[20:00] <sipher_> ssalvarani use the CD to boot the system...then at the command line... type "
[20:00] <pangloss> ssalvarani: use ubuntu live cd to reinstall grub
[20:00] <sipher_> sudo grub
[20:00] <jrib> suspect43: it's usually easy to figure out from /dev/input/by-id/
[20:00] <sipher_> stupid vpn. *kicks and screams*
[20:00] <sipher_> I'm forced to use windows because of ubuntus inhability to manage vpn connections.
[20:01] <ssalvarani> sipher_: i typed sudo grub.
[20:01] <admin_masu3701> can someone help...i hear no sound
[20:01] <bove3> I'm piping an X11 connection through several ssh connections, but I how can I change user on the final machine and still keep X working?
[20:01] <sipher_> ssalvarani reboot
[20:01] <Gnea> sipher_: what vpn connections?
[20:01] <suspect43> jrib: there's only a keyboard device in there
[20:01] <pangloss> admin_masu3701: turn speakers on o.O
[20:01] <Gnea> !sound > admin_masu3701
[20:01] <paul68> pangloss would't reconfigure grub  do the trick?
[20:01] <sipher_> Gnea Microsoft VPN connection configured using network-manager
[20:01] <Dominik> hey, how can I make a website think im sitting in germany?
[20:01] <ssalvarani> sipher_: already done? it didn't seem to do anything
[20:01] <admin_masu3701> ubtottu: ?
[20:02] <admin_masu3701> speakers are on
[20:02] <sipher_> ssalvarani it should boot
[20:02] <ssalvarani> sipher_: ok i'll try
[20:02] <pangloss> paul68: probably, but the livecd method i think is easier for new users
[20:02] <pangloss> paul68: all they have to do is click buttons =)
[20:02] <Gnea> sipher_: that's a joke, right? microsoft vpn? a priority for ubuntu vpn developers?
[20:02] <jrib> suspect43: hrmm. why do you even need this?
[20:02] <sipher_> Gnea since version 5 its been broken...
[20:03] <sipher_> Gnea and yes...alot of coorporations use Microsoft VPN
[20:03] <Le_Chat> -> trying to install wifi devices : how to unload defaults drivers ?
[20:03] <sipher_> Gnea its not a joke.
[20:03] <suspect43> jrib: :) so i can cat /dev/mouse > /dev/dsp . not important :D
[20:03] <paul68> pangloss: true I had an issue with it also and if my memory isn't failing I used reconfiguring grub and the problem was solved
[20:03] <sipher_> Gnea At work...I'm forced to use a microsoft VPN..
[20:03] <sipher_> but ubuntu fails to work.
[20:03] <sipher_> =/
[20:03] <sipher_> crap
[20:03] <japanfred> hey everyone, since upgrading to 8.10, any sound via alsa is just a crackle? is this a known issue?
[20:03] <Gnea> sipher_: i'm not surprised, microsoft isn't known for providing the open source community with a lot of options in that regard.
[20:03] <sipher_> japanfred something is opening the sounds device....
[20:03] <jwormy> anyone recommend a good multimonitor taskbar app?
[20:03] <Dominik> how can I use ubuntu to configure a system wide proxy?
[20:04] <pw-toxic> can anyone tell me how i can change the drivers i want to use using my graphic card?
[20:04] <admin_masu3701> i cant hear any sound...can anyone help
[20:04] <sipher_> Gnea there are many open source apps that work for connecting to VPNs.
[20:04] <jrib> suspect43: heh, ok
[20:04] <excitatory> Would anyone know how I can set keyboard shortcuts for applications?  I want ctrl-alt-del to open gnome system monitor..
[20:04] <sipher_> Gnea hell Ive had some success with ubuntu
[20:04] <japanfred> sipher_, any way i can see what is using the sound device?
[20:04] <sipher_> Gnea but its not constitant.
[20:04] <Gnea> sipher_: indeed there are.
[20:04] <sipher_> japanfred use lsof to find anything that has the sound device opened.
[20:04] <bimberi> sipher_: are you looking in log files?  perhaps if could you find more information than "doesn't work".
[20:04] <sipher_> bimberi I have...
[20:04] <Gnea> sipher_: sadly, without specifics from your end, it is impossible to be able to help you figure out what the real problem is.
[20:05] <sipher_> Nov  6 14:40:57 ubuntu pppd[5560]: LCP terminated by peer (pM-h.M-z^@<M-Mt^@^@^BM-3)
[20:05] <Le_Chat> pw-toxic: try to modify your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[20:05] <Nergoth> anyone knows how should I set SMP and MPS Table in kernel menuconfig for Intel Celeron 220 (one core)?
[20:05] <sipher_> bimberi, I guess I'm more upset about the fact this is a problem EVERYTIME i install ubuntu.
[20:05] <pw-toxic> Le_Chat: i just did like someone wrote in a forum, but then my x-server didnt start anymore and i had to use a backup
[20:05] <sipher_> be cisco vpn or pptp
[20:05] <sipher_> the network-manager fails me everytime.
[20:05] <sipher_> and I'm 100% positive im not the only one.
[20:05] <sipher_> look at the forums.
[20:05] <japanfred> sipher_, thats a cool tool...what would the sound device be do you know?
[20:05] <Le_Chat> pw-toxic: are you sure you use the good driver ?
[20:06] <sipher_> japanfred not sure..
[20:06] <bimberi> sipher_: oh ok, so you're just wanting to vent :)
[20:06] <sipher_> bimberi well not..
[20:06] <sipher_> I'd like to solve the issue...
[20:06] <sipher_> but I'd also like a permenant fix.
[20:06] <Wintervenom> When I try to run sound programs under Wine or under VirtualBox with ALSA/PulseAudio, I get sound that lags and/or is choppy.  Would removing PulseAudio and switching everything to ALSA fix this problem, or is there a better way?
[20:06] <sipher_> as I said.
[20:06] <Nergoth> anyone knows how should I set SMP and MPS Table in kernel menuconfig for Intel Celeron 220 (one core)??
[20:06] <sipher_> EVERYTIME...
[20:06] <sipher_> its painful.
[20:06] <pw-toxic> Le_Chat: i'm using an samsung x20 with intel graphic card.. in ubuntu 8.2 everything worked very good - especially the compiz things like cube... i have updated to 8.10, and i cant use anything of compiz and even moving a window without effects is very slowly
[20:06] <Gnea> sipher_: well, you can vent all you like, but it's better than you do it AFK :) however, if you're serious about fixing the problem, you'll need to stop pointing your finger elsewhere and start using it to get some debugging info.
[20:07] <sipher_> I hate troubleshooting something that should just work.
[20:07] <pw-toxic> Le_Chat:  i know i got an intel i9xx
[20:07] <sipher_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=813394
[20:07] <sipher_> EXACTLY my issue.
[20:07] <Gnea> oh, finally.
[20:07] <sipher_> as I've already pasted :)
[20:08] <Gnea> hard to pick it out of all of the cruft, but thanks for repasting :)
[20:08] <excitatory> Would anyone know how I can set keyboard shortcuts for applications?  I want ctrl-alt-del to open gnome system monitor..
[20:08] <sipher_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=307429
[20:08] <Le_Chat> pw-toxic: have you update your drivers? im not an expert but if you copiled your driver on 8.2, i thinks you should have to recompile your driver on 8.10
[20:08] <sipher_> hah
[20:08] <mtc> hi all
[20:08] <sipher_> I like the title of that thread
[20:08] <sipher_> VPN frustrations... connection not working
[20:08] <sipher_> it never works!
[20:08] <dafe> hi all
[20:08] <mtc> I've recently upgraded to 8.10
[20:08] <SiDi> Hi guys and girls.
[20:08] <Gnea> !enter | sipher_
[20:08] <pw-toxic> Le_Chat: how can i do this? ;)
[20:08] <dafe> how can i access an ftp server using nautilus?
[20:08] <mtc> everything works well beside network
[20:08] <sipher_> Gnea ya ya...
[20:09] <Gnea> sipher_: it looks like a PPP configuration issue.
[20:09] <SiDi> I've got a stupid question : is there a command line thing for modifying the audio volume (not alsamixer, just the global volume) ?
[20:09] <sipher_> Gnea its default.
[20:09] <mtc> I had an installation of guarddog und lokkit
[20:09] <dafe> i have tried ftp://user:password@<ip_address> but it prompts for password
[20:09] <mtc> now I can not connect to the net with my wireless link
[20:09] <pw-toxic> Le_Chat:  i didnt install the drivers on ubuntu 8.2 .. it worked after installing 8.2 .. i didnt install any drivers manually
[20:09] <sipher_> I might as well install debian if I have to hack all the configs anyway :p
[20:09] <Gnea> sipher_: that would definitely be a problem. it's impossible to blanket a solution to work on every possible problem when the situation is so miniscule in nature.
[20:09] <mtc> it worked before and still does on windows
[20:10] <SiDi> dafe, : ftp://ip_address:21 and it should prompt for user/pass
[20:10] <Gnea> then install debian already
[20:10] <sipher_> Gnea miniscule?
[20:10] <sipher_> =/
[20:10] <SiDi> dafe, oh, you don't want it to prompt anything ?
[20:10] <mtc> The netwirkmanger shows that I'm connected
[20:10] <Gnea> sipher_: yeah, most people do not use that feature
[20:10] <excitatory> dafe, click the icon right above 'Places' to give you the old school directory location, then just type in ftp://yourserverhere.net or whatever
[20:10] <sipher_> Gnea do you have a job...? Are you required to access remote networks?
[20:10] <mtc> but I can not ping anything
[20:10] <mtc> any advice?
[20:10] <sipher_> Gnea really?
[20:10] <mtc> where to start with?
[20:11] <iminal> anyone know why in 8.10 when my computer goes to sleep, and when i wake it up my wired internet connect is dissabled and i cannot reenable it unless i reboot?
[20:11] <bimberi> sipher_: http://www.benking.me.uk/2007/06/14/ubuntu-pptp-windows-2003-vpn-server/   ???
[20:11] <Le_Chat> pw-toxic: ha ok, maybe you should install some manually now... just try to download drivers on the intel sies? (i don't know if they released some...)
[20:11] <Le_Chat> site*
[20:11] <dafe> i mean if u have passed the user and password why it prompts for password?
[20:11] <pangloss> mtc: is your connection set to static?
[20:11] <sipher_> Gnea ya kids who download ubuntu to try linux don't...but real corporate users
[20:11] <sipher_> ALL use vpn
[20:11] <iminal> no the connection is not set to static
[20:11] <russell__> Is there a way to use my onboard sound card thereby disabling my addon sound card?
[20:11] <sipher_> bimberi thanks :) let me check.
[20:11] <mtc> pangloss:  no, dhcp
[20:11] <andreas__> stupid question: the woman with whom i drove the car.......<- is this sentence correct?
[20:12] <Gnea> sipher_: Ubuntu isn't exactly a proven solution in a corporate environment - it's getting there, but it just isn't.
[20:12] <sipher_> bimberi I've done that...
[20:12] <pangloss> mtc: $lspci | grep -i wireless
[20:12] <sipher_> doesn't work.
[20:12] <sipher_> Gnea =/
[20:12] <gavagai> andreas__, i think it is grammatically correct but nobody would say that.  you don't drive a car 'with' someone.  unless you worked the wheel and she worked the pedals or something.
[20:12] <pw-toxic> Le_Chat: i have xserver-xorg-video-intel installed   (i asked my synapsis package manager)
[20:12] <SiDi> dafe : the syntax might be wrong, it might be asking for a pre-hashed version of it.. no idea
[20:13] <SiDi> dafe, try to find FAQs about connecting to an FTP server via a browser, it'll be the same in nautilus
[20:13] <mtc> pangloss: have to start it now since I'm using umts on the same box, to get online
[20:13] <dafe> weird it works on konqueror
[20:13] <Gnea> sipher_: however, if you, the user, are used to debian and other distributions, then it shouldn't be a problem for you at all to get your hands a little dirty and edit a few scripts by hand. that url that bimberi gave looks like it gives a bit of insight, even though it's based on kde/kubuntu
[20:13] <sipher_> bimberi I just deleted the connection...recreated it with that MPPE option enabled. Still no dice.
[20:13] <pangloss> mtc: hm. well when you start it, and you click the network manager icon, it shows a list of wireless networks?
[20:14] <Gnea> sipher_: even http://tipotheday.com/2007/11/28/connect-to-windows-vpn-server-pptp-with-ubuntu-gutsy/ could possibly point you in the right direction
[20:14] <sipher_> Gnea the point is...I is aimed at being user friendly and easy to use. connecting to a Microsoft VPN is VERY common.
[20:14] <psicobra> hi all since upgrading to ubuntu 8.10 i have lost my sound any one able to help
[20:14] <Le_Chat> pw-toxic: hehe, it's the windows' user who talk : did you try to uninstall the package and reinstall it ?
[20:14] <sipher_> I installed ubuntu to avoid hacking to spend horus hacking shit together to get it working.
[20:15] <sipher_> hacking scripts..band aiding everything
[20:15] <andreas__> so...i have to write that a man has a wife with whom he rears children...can you correct this sentence?
[20:15] <bimberi> sipher_: where were a few other hits when i googled '' pptp "LCP terminated by peer" ubuntu ''  ;)
[20:15] <Pici> andreas__: Try #linguistics
[20:15] <sipher_> bimberi ya :(
[20:15] <Le_Chat> pw-toxic: the last version seems to be the <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:16] <Gnea> sipher_: that's all fine and good, but as I said, we're not paid to aim at corporate users. if you expect something to "just work", then go back to windows.  we don't have to put up with your constant childish behavior.  we are trying to help you and you continue to verbally abuse the help that we are coming up with.
[20:16] <sipher_> unfortunately...most of them have little effect.
[20:16] <andreas__> ...ubuntu != englsih...thank you
[20:16] <sipher_> Gnea remove the feature if its broken :p
[20:16] <Gnea> sipher_: that can be arranged.
[20:16] <sipher_> Gnea abuse you?
[20:17] <sipher_> Gnea you are arguing the point that its not for coorporate..
[20:17] <sipher_> Gnea what if your irc client didn't work?
[20:18] <sipher_> wouldn't it be a bitch everytime you installed ubuntu you had to spend 10 hours troubleshooting the irc client?
[20:18] <VirusKongen> when i opening my dvd drive its closing afrer 2 sek, it works in windows what shall i do
[20:18] <admin_masu3701> do anyone know why i cant hear no sound when play video on youtube
[20:18] <sipher_> not too mention its a "feature" that is known to work in linux.
[20:18] <VirusKongen> reinstall flashplayer, admin_masu
[20:18] <Pici> VirusKongen: This was a problem mentioned in the 8.10 release notes.  A forthcoming update should fix it.
[20:18] <Pici> !notes | VirusKongen
[20:18] <olskolirc> im on Heron and im wondering what is the dock application bar i just added what does it do?
[20:18] <pangloss> admin_masu3701: use mozilla flash-plugin
[20:18] <Gnea> sipher_: that's the second time you've forgotten about the language issue here. I strongly suggest, for your own good, that you detach from IRC for awhile, go get some lunch, and come back when you don't feel so threatened.
[20:19] <pangloss> admin_masu3701: the free-flash is broken =/
[20:19] <sipher_> Gnea blow me. kthanks.
[20:19] <Pici> Gnea, sipher_: Please stop arguing in here.
[20:19] <qpdb> pidgin is adding some status options to the switchuser/reboot/shutdown panel thing, how to prevent pidgin from doing this?
[20:19] <Pici> sipher_: This is a support channel, please act appropriately.
[20:19] <pw-toxic> Le_Chat: no i didnt but i will..
[20:19] <admin_masu3701> now how can i get back the flash-plugins?
[20:19] <smoovep> Question: Any sign of the 10Ghz chips?
[20:20] <pw-toxic> never change or update a runing (ubuntu) system..
[20:20] <Gnea> Pici: he left
[20:20] <Frosty> Can anyone help me with partition manager issue in Ubuntu 8.10
[20:20] <Pici> smoovep: Maybe ##hardware would be a better place to ask.
[20:20] <linxeh> what is that whole corporate issue about? Windows doesnt "work" for corporate use out of the box either
[20:20] <VirusKongen> thnx
[20:20] <SiDi> How can i change the master volume in command line, please ? (i want it for a script, thus can't use stuff like alsamixer)
[20:20] <VirusKongen> thnx
[20:20] <pangloss> admin_masu3701: follow this guide http://www.howtoforge.com/the-perfect-desktop-ubuntu-8.10
[20:20] <Le_Chat> pw-toxic: im sorry, thats all the help i can provides, i'm just a noob :p
[20:20] <Frosty> My SD card does not appear in partition manager so I cannot instill /usr on it
[20:21] <shaya> I just switched from using mozilla's thunderbird tarball to using ubuntu's package, but the fonts look off in ubuntu's
[20:21] <shaya> like they aren't anti-aliased or something
[20:21] <jonaskoelker> Frosty: I bet you can instill fear in it, though :D
[20:21] <shaya> does anyone else suffer from this?
[20:21] <Gnea> linxeh: exactly, and a few of us even pointed him at some helpful sites and made some suggestions - he was just a frustrated user who wanted someone to take out his aggression on.
[20:21] <smoovep> Anyway to see physcial drives from the command line for a volume group?
[20:21] <Frosty> only sda1 appears...not sda2 or sda3
[20:21] <Pici> SiDi: amixer
[20:21] <admin_masu3701> pangloss: that is a tutorial for ubuntu installation
[20:21] <SiDi> Pici, thanks
[20:22] <pangloss> admin_masu3701: scroll over a couple of pages, it tells you how to install flash plugins
[20:22] <hubar> Does anyone use peercast/geekast?
[20:23] <woody86> does anyone know how to make a dban USB on Ubuntu?
[20:23] <Frosty> Anyone know how to get my sd card to appear in 8.10 partition manager? It appears on the desktop of the LIVE cd
[20:23] <NicEXE> what this error means? " Wrong architecture 'i386' "
[20:24] <pangloss> NicEXE: trying to install on a mac or sparc?
[20:24] <Bilaw> Hallo à tous! Où est-ce que je trouve les ports USB dans nautilus? C'est pas /dev?
[20:24] <eric> bonsoir
[20:24] <ilembitov> Hi, all. Don't know how this happened, but all of my Applications menu entries suddenly disappeared. Now, if I click on "Applications", I can't see any entries. It's Ubuntu 8.10. How can I restore a default Ubuntu's menU?
[20:24] <qpdb> there are some some status(available, away, etc.) options added to the switchuser/reboot/shutdown gnome-panel thing while running pidgin, they told me in #pidgin its not pidgin who adds them, its ubuntu.. how to stop this?
[20:24] <erUSUL> !fr | Bilaw
[20:24] <NicEXE> pangloss: trying to install on ubuntu 8.10 64 bit
[20:24] <SiDi> !wiki mount @ Frosty
[20:24] <dxdemetriou> I have upgraded 2 identical pcs to intrepid, the first is ok with updates but on the other I have to use "sudo apt-get update -o Acquire::http::No-Cache=true". how can this be on 2 pcs that have almost the same configuration?
[20:24] <SiDi> damn, #ubuntu's bot is not good.
[20:25] <mtc1> pangloss: the was no listing
[20:25] <Bilaw> (o-oh, sorry, wrong channel!)
[20:25] <mtc1> seconde, I've been using ndiswrapper
[20:25] <SiDi> Bilaw,  :)
[20:25] <mtc1> I guess that's the problem
[20:25] <pangloss> NicEXE: hmmm. It thinks its installing to the wrong architecture
[20:25] <Grey_Loki> Can anyone recommend a laptop for Ubuntu suitable for general office productivity, very light gaming and web-surfing? Sort of a dualcore 1GB RAM 200GB drive with internal wireless and at least semi-decent looks?
[20:25] <Bilaw> (sorry!)
[20:25] <pangloss> mtc1: =/
[20:25] <eighthour> can anyone help getting an internal verizon wireless card to work....???....
[20:25] <pangloss> mtc1: you dont see any wireless networks?
[20:25] <linxeh> Grey_Loki: one of the dells?
[20:25] <Bilaw> where can I find the USB port on nautilus?
[20:26] <gavagai> Grey_Loki, dell vostros are a good deal.  but the whole thing with nvidia graphics cards has been sketchy so i don't know...
[20:26] <Frosty> SiDi... the SD card appears on the desktop of the LIVE CD mounted... however, it does not appear in the installation process in partition manager
[20:26] <linxeh> Grey_Loki: http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/linux_3x?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
[20:26] <mtc1> pangloss: not without ndiswarraper and win drivers :(
[20:26] <hubar> Grey_Loki: Anything made by lenovo is great for Linux. :)
[20:26] <SiDi> Ah ok Frosty.
[20:26] <gavagai> lenovo > dell by far
[20:26] <Bilaw> (hey there, SiDi!)
[20:26] <himuraken> OK guys, where should I start on this one?  Boot it up now, and it doesnt show the internal nic or WLAN card.
[20:26] <pvh_sa> i'm on 8.10 - and each time i play a mp3 in rhythmbox it says : "Search for suitable codec?" when its actually playing fine (i.e. it has the codec) - how can i make this message go away?
[20:26] <pangloss> mtc1: what kind of wireless card is it?
[20:26] <hubar> Grey_Loki: I am using T61, can not be happier. :)
[20:26] <Grey_Loki> hubar, unfortunately a bit too expensive as well, from what i've seen - kinda looking for something around the £400ish mark
[20:26] <ilembitov> Hi, all. Don't know how this happened, but all of my Applications menu entries suddenly disappeared. Now, if I click on "Applications", I can't see any entries. It's Ubuntu 8.10. How can I restore a default Ubuntu's menU?
[20:27] <Grey_Loki> Though I would love a Lenovo
[20:27] <SiDi> Frosty, i think there is a special method for USB connected devices (i assume it's the case for your SD card). If it's about an EEEPC i'm sorry but i don't know anything about how it works.
[20:27] <mtc1> pangloss: fritz wlan!
[20:27] <Frosty> It's an eee pc
[20:27] <hubar> hmm, try one of those netbooks?
[20:27] <brodiesel> wow! there are a lot ofpeople on this channel.
[20:27] <pangloss> mtc1: hmm, not familiar
[20:27] <jobe> im editing xorg.conf. 8.10 has hardly any entries in there, including no serverlayout section. if I add input devices without a serverlayout section = no X. If i add a new server layout section listing the devices I added = no X. I was told I dont need to add entries for keyboard/mouse as they arent already listed. is this so? what else do i need to do? im setting up an intuos3 tablet
[20:27] <SiDi> Frosty, you might want to have a look at how to make a LiveUSB distribution. I assume it works the same way for SD.
[20:27] <SiDi> (Hey Bilaw ;p)
[20:27] <brodiesel> are there any others where i can get info on netowrking issues?
[20:27] <jrib> jobe: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/
[20:28] <linxeh> Grey_Loki: I've run Ubuntu on my dells with no issue before, but meh
[20:28] <linxeh> :)
[20:28] <Frosty> I am installing off a USB drive and plan to put "/" on the internal SSD and /user on the SD card.... however, only the SSD appears in the partition manager as SDA1
[20:28] <smoovep> Question? I install ubuntu server .. it came with no Xwin.. I tried appget ubuntu desktop .. and xorg.. with gnome install.. but still can't get gnome working.. what am i missing??
[20:28] <Grey_Loki> linxeh, thanks for the recommendation - i'll take a look :)
[20:28] <SiDi> brodiesel, you can try generic #linux channel but i'd recommand that you use this one ;)
[20:28] <linxeh> Frosty: wait till you get it installed, then move the stuff to the SD card
[20:28] <gavagai> ubuntu runs fine on my vostro, but the machine is a time bomb with these crappy nvidia cards.  and dell, unlike hp and apple, won't extend the warranty.
[20:28] <nxmehta> i want to edit my grub/menu.lst, but there are all sorts of entries that are already listed but look commented out.  the file says not to remove the comments... what is going on here?  are they read by grub in some other way?
[20:28] <pangloss> smoovep: why not install ubuntu desktop?
[20:28]  * cllaudyu hello
[20:29] <wcchandler> I'm trying to make an Entity Relationship Diagram as a homework assignment and chose Linux.  I'm stuck right now with a many-to-many relationship with Distribution and Package.  Anybody know of a way to break it up?
[20:29] <Frosty> linxeh... I have to split it up since my eee pc only has a 2GB SSD hard drive
[20:29] <mirko_> hello... i have ubuntu intrepid but i downgraded the kernel to the 2.26.24-19.. i'm having troubles with virtualbox, cos when i do /etc/init.d/vboxdrv start it says it doesn't find an appropriate module for the kernel running... what to do????
[20:29] <Stef1> Hi, I cannot checkout my sourgeforge svn code.
[20:29] <Stef1> Error: Error while updating filelist (PROPFIND request failed on '/' PROPFIND of '/': 301 Moved Permanently (http://jadvancedwars.svn.sourceforge.net))
[20:29] <mirko_> hello... i have ubuntu intrepid but i downgraded the kernel to the 2.26.24-19.. i'm having troubles with virtualbox, cos when i do /etc/init.d/vboxdrv start it says it doesn't find an appropriate module for the kernel running... what to do????
[20:29] <spowney> Frosty: apparently there are issues  with the eeepc and /home mounted on the internal card reader when coming back from a suspend, not sure if that helps
[20:29] <Itaku> how do i get my TI-84 plus calculator on my ubuntu?
[20:29] <Itaku> so i can put games on it
[20:29] <Frosty> For Ubuntu 8.04, I was able to see all mounted drives in partition manager and split up the files... however, in partiation manager in ubuntu 8.10, I can only see the internal hdd drive mounted
[20:30] <linxeh> Frosty: so do a base install, move mount points, then install the packages you need
[20:30] <brodiesel> thanks sidi. i have a somewhat short ?. my intrepid live disc has the appropriate drivers for my wireless (atheros 2413), my install doesnt. how do i get them to the install? reinstall?
[20:30] <linxeh> Frosty: you can do a tiny install, then install everyhing else if you want
[20:30] <pangloss> mirko_: you need to install the proper kernel module for vboxdrv
[20:30] <smoovep> pangloss.. I did .. when i start X .. it gives me a log in window, and the screen remains in some low res thats hard to see anything..
[20:30] <sipher_> network manager doesn't save any of the settings for VPN connections (other than the username and the connection itself) ubuntu 8.10. bug report.
[20:30] <Frosty> linxeh... how do I do a tiny install? net install maybe?
[20:31] <shredder12> hey people, i m having some really weird problems after upgrading to intrepid..whenever i click on any icon in Places..eg. Places->Home folder ..it doesn't open that folder instead opens rhythmbox ..
[20:31] <SiDi> brodiesel, there should be a lot of stuff in the site's doc about atheros cards, but i can't help you with it on my own since i don't own any of these ;)
[20:31] <Itaku> how do i put games on my TI-84 plus calculator using ubuntu?
[20:31] <VirusKongen> is ATI X1650PRO working ok (512MB) in pol
[20:31] <VirusKongen> ?
[20:31] <djhash> !patience | Itaku
[20:31] <sipher_> if you run the connection editor using sudo or as root..the connection is not displayed under the network-manager vpn menu.
[20:31] <Itaku> ...
[20:31] <djhash> !repeat | Itaku
[20:32] <sipher_> and forces the use of pon ..
[20:32] <Itaku> i didnt repeat it quickly
[20:32] <smoovep> pangloss.. i'll try editing the xorg.conf.. maybe there is a settings for the resolutions....
[20:32] <Itaku> i waited like 5 minutes
[20:32] <billgoldberg> Hi, I want to install my windows driver for the wireless card and am following a guide on the ubuntu wiki. Using ndisgtk I install the driver, when I then press "configure network" it says: " could not find a network configuration tool". Any help?
[20:32] <djhash> 2 minutes i have time stamps
[20:32] <Stef1> Error while updating filelist (PROPFIND request failed on '/') : 301 Moved Permanently what does that mean?
[20:32] <hubar> I haven't touched a calculator in like 8 years.
[20:32] <pangloss> smoovep: you can also try booting into recovery mode and ask it to fix your x settings
[20:32] <shredder12> any help people..
[20:32] <hubar> I suspect most of the people are like me here. :)
[20:33] <smoovep> pangloss.. yeah.. is ubuntu desktop the only thing i need? if i do apt-get instll .. it shoudl install everything.. correct?
[20:33] <SiDi> Itaku, that's just a 30sec googling but it seems you're looking for something called TILP : see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=351343
[20:33] <sipher_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-pptp/+bug/282624
[20:34] <Itaku> wait ubuntu 8.10 is out?
[20:34] <SiDi> Itaku, eitherway you can try wine or a virtual windows machine but i doubt it would help much
[20:34] <SiDi> Itaku, yes, it's been a week now.
[20:34] <Pici> Itaku: Yes.
[20:34] <dvyjones> !sound
[20:34] <chupy> does anyone here now how to carck with aircarck? i have a question
[20:34] <Itaku> weird my update notifier isnt going off
[20:34] <xmatrix> air crack offers full documentation o ntheri website
[20:34] <xmatrix> on thier**
[20:34] <chupy> no
[20:35] <pangloss> their*
[20:35] <chupy> i have specific cuestions
[20:35] <pangloss> ::sigh::
[20:35] <xmatrix> yes, also go to google and type in remote exploit
[20:35] <coax> anyone know why i have to refresh youtube video pages a couple times before the video plays in konqueror?
[20:35] <xmatrix> or backtrack e3
[20:35] <SiDi> chupy, i assume you know this is an ubuntu support channel and that getting inside a network by cracking a key is an intrusion and is condemned by law if the network isn't yours.
[20:35] <xmatrix> sorry backtrack 3
[20:35] <djhash> !anyone | chupy
[20:35] <shredder12> hey people, i m having some really weird problems after upgrading to intrepid..whenever i click on any icon in Places..eg. Places->Home folder ..it doesn't open that folder instead opens rhythmbox ..
[20:35] <shredder12> somebody please help..
[20:35] <chupy> is my network and in my country is legal
[20:36] <snova> Do the device files in /dev exist in recovery mode?
[20:36] <sipher_> shredder12 you're screwed unless you are a code monkey.
[20:36] <aypee> Hello. Is it possible to set my console settings so that I can type things like C-c C-> into emacs? Also, emacs registers C-/ as DEL rather than 'undo'. The GTK emacs works perfectly but I want to use it on the console for speed on a slooooooow laptop. Thanks.
[20:36] <SiDi> shredder12, open nautilus (Alt +F2 then type nautilus), right click on any folder, go to properties -> open with -> and add "Nautilus" to the list, by default
[20:36] <sipher_> snova yes.
[20:36] <SiDi> shredder12, the bug happened for some users (including me) : as there was no application by default for opening folders it just picked one, resulting in this problem
[20:36] <mklebel> will RandR 1.3 be in the 9.04 alpha release?
[20:36] <wacky> I first noticed the problem when I went to the previous release, however I just went to 8.10 and the problem still exists.. When I try and view an avi file with mplayer.. it loads the first frame and then freezes only showing the frame.. if I fastforward I Can get to a new frame but it just sits at the fram and doesnt play the file.. any ideas?  I've been using an app called Alarm Clock (i believe it is now in the ibex repo) and everytime my computer starts it loads two instances of Alarm Clock every time
[20:38] <xmatrix> im using Hardy
[20:38] <coax> anyone know why i have to refresh youtube video pages a couple times before the video plays in konqueror?
[20:38] <SiDi> xmatrix, you might have it to auto open with your session in System ->Preferences ->Sessions
[20:39] <xmatrix> i want it to load on start up
[20:39] <xmatrix> but i only want on einstance
[20:39] <xmatrix> instance**
[20:39] <Stef1> Do I have to configure svn before I can do a checkout?
[20:39] <VirusKongen> remove one of the values if it is two of them in sessions
[20:39] <shredder12> SiDi...thanks that solved the problem..
[20:39] <pangloss> xmatrix: see if there are two instances of it in your sessions?
[20:39] <SiDi> coax, i'ld be tempted to point at Konqueror but it's more likely that your flash version is having trouble with your audio config. Try to google (or search your country's doc) about how to get flash properly working with your distrib (+ pulseaudio)
[20:39] <SiDi> shredder12, you're welcome
[20:40] <Maltor124> Can anybody here help me set up a SGD on a USB stick?
[20:40] <xmatrix> pangloss there is not
[20:40] <coax> SiDi: oh ok, thanks
[20:40] <SiDi> Stef1, it's good to at least tell svn which repository it should check. Then it should work ;)
[20:40] <glacius> hey guys
[20:40] <mtc1> sind when is nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> even when dhcp is used
[20:40] <glacius> quick question
[20:40] <qpdb> there are some some status options(available, away, etc.) added to the switchuser/reboot/shutdown gnome-panel thing while running pidgin, they told me in #pidgin its not pidgin who adds them, its ubuntu.. how to stop this?
[20:40] <mtc1> doest it have to be the router dns adress?
[20:40] <Submarine> hi
[20:40] <glacius> I am not getting any sound out of my headphones
[20:40] <snova> Stef1: No, checkouts are easy.
[20:40] <sipher_> ** (nm-connection-editor:7175): WARNING **: Unhandled setting secret type (write) 'vpn/secrets' : 'GHashTable_gchararray+gchararray_'
[20:40] <sipher_> ) = 135
[20:40] <SiDi> hi Submarine
[20:40] <snova> Stef1: I don't think you have to do anything.
[20:41] <sipher_> :(
[20:41] <sipher_> I can't even use the vpn unless I whack the code :p
[20:41] <Submarine> What is the purpose of the /usr/lib/debug directory? Do I use it by prepending it to LD_LIBRARY_PATH?
[20:41] <sipher_> *cries*
[20:41] <Stef1> still it gives me an error message when I try from cmd, rapidSvn.
[20:41] <djhash> glacius: are you on a desktop and using the front connector?
[20:41] <brodiesel> sidi: i found a good amount of info there, but i guess my question is how to download a package and then find it when i open the install, which has no internet connection. if i use synaptic on the live disc will it save it somewhere on my hd that is intuitive?
[20:42] <glacius> djhash: no I am using notebook and a connector on the side
[20:42] <Stef1> Error: Error while updating filelist (PROPFIND request failed on '/' PROPFIND of '/': Could not read status line: Connection reset by peer (http://jadvancedwars.svn.sourceforge.net))
[20:42] <Stef1> I don't understand what could be wrong.
[20:42] <Ayabara> dngconverter seems to be the default app for opening my CR2 files. is this new in intrepid?
[20:42] <sipher_> if there are any developers here... 8.10 needs some vpn loven.
[20:42] <linxeh> Ayabara: which EOS do you have ?
[20:42] <xmatrix> brodiesel i think what your saying if you download a package then transfer it to a computer without internet how can i install it?
[20:42] <Submarine> Ayabara, E: Couldn't find package dngconverter
[20:42] <djhash> glacius: is the sound coming out the laptops speakers
[20:42] <Maltor124> Can anybody here help me set up a SGD on a USB stick?
[20:42] <Submarine> Ayabara, that's not standard
[20:42] <shayan> hello every body, I need a remote service managing program in linux. anybody knows anything reliable?
[20:42] <SiDi> brodiesel, that's a great question actually.. :P i guess you can have a look at how to activate your liveCD as a repository (since it seems to have your network drivers)
[20:43] <Pici> sipher_: File a bug if there are issues with network-manager's VPN handling then.
[20:43] <SiDi> brodiesel, i "think" its "sudo apt-cdrom add"
[20:43] <glacius> djhash: yes
[20:43] <Ayabara> linxeh: eos 450d
[20:43] <Ayabara> Submarine: hm. wonder where I picked that up..
[20:43] <linxeh> Ayabara: cool - just curious (I've got far too much eos gear)
[20:43] <sipher_> Pici, too lazy..100% someone else will. its in the default install. You can't use PPTP VPN.
[20:43] <sipher_> well, you can't configure it via nm at least.
[20:44] <djhash> glacius: seems like the sound card treats both as separate connections.. check the audio mixer (double click on the speaker on the top right of the screen) take a look at volume levels
[20:44] <Pici> sipher_: If no one files a bug, then its not going to get fixed.
[20:44] <Ayabara> linxeh: do you shoot raw images? I'm trying to find _the_ application to work with raw on linux
[20:44] <sipher_> Pici 100% positive someone will.
[20:44] <brodiesel> sidi: thanks. i'm gonna bot up the install and try that out.
[20:44] <shayan> I need a remote service managing program in linux. anybody knows anything reliable?
[20:44] <sipher_> Pici I hate signing up for things.
[20:44] <brodiesel> xmatrix:
[20:44] <brodiesel> yeah, thats what im wondering
[20:45] <sipher_> shayan under preferences...enable remote desktop.
[20:45] <SiDi> brodiesel, good luck with it ;)
[20:45] <Maltor124> Can anybody here help me set up a SGD on a USB stick? Or should I go to a different channel. Is there one for SGD?
[20:45] <linxeh> Ayabara: yeah, but I use a mac for my photography work
[20:45] <xmatrix> brodiesel, well as long as you download the .deb file and have the dependencies on your computer that you are trying to install it on, ubuntu will complete the installation
[20:46] <sipher_> shayan ubuntu comes with clients for both vnc and rdp .. nx is neat. but you'll kill yourself setting it up.
[20:46] <Pici> Maltor124: What is SGD?
[20:46] <xmatrix> brodiesel, for some cool ubuntu apps check out geb deb (search in google)
[20:46] <glacius> djhash: everything is fine line in and front mic muted
[20:46] <aypee> So anyway, emacs on the console in hardy/intrepid. You can't type C-> and C-/ registers as 'delete' rather than 'undo'. Any ideas?
[20:46] <ametaireau> hi all
[20:46] <Maltor124> Pici: Super Grub Disk at http://supergrubdisk.org/
[20:47] <Ayabara> linxeh: I'm considering buying the new mbp, but I'm not sure I like the non-standard way iPhoto handles metadata.
[20:47] <linxeh> sipher_: hmm, NX just installed like clockwork. FreeNX was a little harder, but not that bad :o
[20:47] <Maltor124> Pici: It's for recovering Grub, etc.
[20:47] <ilembitov> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immoral_Tales_(film)
[20:47] <linxeh> Ayabara: I dont use iphoto :0
[20:47] <gavagai> aypee, you could try changing your $TERM setting but i would just ask in #emacs, that must be a common issue
[20:47] <Ayabara> linxeh: I could have guessed that would be your answer ;-)
[20:47] <aypee> gavagai: Thanks!
[20:47] <ametaireau> I have a question: which files are loaded when I boostrap my computer. (eq. which file call the /etc/rc*.d/* files) ?
[20:48] <djhash> glacius: do you see headphone?
[20:48] <linxeh> Ayabara: heh - I use Lightroom, I found it to be superior to most other things in that regard, but I really need to go through every photo I've got and start sorting them out :o
[20:49] <gavagai> aypee, good luck
[20:49] <erUSUL> ametaireau: init and in ubuntu upstart
[20:49] <erUSUL> !upstart | ametaireau
[20:49] <ametaireau> ok thanks a lot
[20:49] <shayan> sipher_ , no. I need it in a bash script.
[20:49] <glacius> djhash: under switches there is a headphone option that is checked
[20:50] <Pici> Maltor124: They claim their irc channel is #sgrub on this network, but its empty :/
[20:50] <Maltor124> Pici: Yeah, I saw that. That's why I came here. D:
[20:51] <diskin> in hardy, was kernel 2.6.22 released? I see packages in dpkg -l, but they in 'rc' state.
[20:51] <ciastek_> Help please. Ubuntu starts up. I can run programs from GNOME or from console using DISPLAY=:0. Few moments later i can't run programs anymore. Running from GNOME shows "Running <program>" on taskbar, after a while it disappears. Running from console says "There is no display 0". What should i do with that?
[20:51] <diskin> oops, sorry. in hardy, was kernel 2.6.24-22 released? I see packages in dpkg -l, but they in 'rc' state.
[20:51] <zemappeur> hi all
[20:52] <zsquareplusc> diskin: rc mean you once had it installed but it is removed now
[20:52] <Stef1> I got it! for some reason I have to type https instead of http when checking out a svn repo.
[20:52] <diskin> zsquareplusc, thanks. so I removed tham (acidentally?). how to restore them?
[20:52] <Stef1> not that anyone care =)
[20:52] <Maltor124> Pici: So can you walk me through it?
[20:53] <zemappeur> it's true, ubuntu 8.10 ???
[20:53] <zemappeur> i speak english little
[20:53] <Maltor124> Pici: They have a walkthrough on the site, but I'm a Linux newbie.
[20:53] <Pici> Maltor124: I don't know anything about it :/
[20:53] <Maltor124> Pici: It's a little confusing.
[20:53] <nxxs> hey, y'all!
[20:54] <glacius> djhash: under switches there is a headphone option that is checked
[20:54] <nxxs> got the following problem: the disk usage analyzer doesnt display the correct size of my harddrives. what can i do?
[20:55] <zsquareplusc> diskin: if oyu have upgraded there was that suggestion for automatically removing unneeded packages. that removed it. if is still available in the repository, check synaptics for linux-image-xxx packages
[20:55] <diskin> zsquareplusc, but now I have 2.6.24-21. why then 2.6.24-22 removed?
[20:55] <TheSilva> Hey. After upgrading to 8.10 my Windows box that used the LInux box as a gateway can't access the internet. Any ideas ?
[20:56] <Maltor124> Can anybody here help me set up a Super Grub Disk on a USB disc? Their channel is empty. D:
[20:56] <remu> Hello everyone, I am running Ubuntu Intrepid 64bit, and I checked the System Monitor, and under all of the "Waiting Channel" everything either shows do_poll, or do_select. Is that normal?
[20:57] <chazco> Hi... anyone know of an alternative to network-manager? Having some issues connecting with it
[20:57] <tomBN> zulu
[20:58] <zsquareplusc> diskin: ah you now have a lower one. hm. maybe you changed the repositories?
[20:58] <feindbild> hello :)
[20:58] <diskin> zsquareplusc, yes, I remember adding some ppa. will check, thanks!
[20:59] <feindbild> how do I find out the ubuntu version?
[20:59] <feindbild> ...that is intalled
[20:59] <feindbild> on the console ^^
[20:59] <Pici> feindbild: lsb_release -a
[20:59] <feindbild> thank you :)
[21:00]  * jobe is otherwise occupied: Gone away for now
[21:00] <chazco> Is there a way to manual configure wifi?
[21:00] <jrib> chazco: system -> prefs -> network
[21:00] <jim_p> Pici: i just notices lsb_release does not work for me! command not found!
[21:00] <feindbild> how can I upgrade to php-5.2.6 on ubuntu 6.06?
[21:00] <chazco> jrib - That still uses network manager iirc
[21:01] <mehelp> what's a good channel to go to to ask network related questions, not necessarily on ubuntu
[21:01] <glacius> so anyone can tell me why iam not getting sound out of my headphones but speakers are fine on my notebook
[21:01] <mehelp> glacius:  check the audio mixer, there's a checkbox for headphones in it
[21:01] <chazco> jrib - Is /etc/network/interfaces (or whatever is used) still supported?
[21:02] <glacius> mehelp: its checked
[21:02] <After_Math> is there an application out that will blast my speakers to bast their max?
[21:02] <jrib> chazco: you can use it, but then network manager won't work I believe (check me)
[21:02] <pw-toxic> i'm still working on my graphic driver problem ...  i'm using samsugn x20 with an intel i915.. since i updated from 8.02 to 8.10  my graphic driver seem not to work because the compiz effects can't be applied
[21:02] <pw-toxic> i really would appreciate any help
[21:02] <After_Math> or something of that sort, I need my volume higher
[21:02] <jrib> !away > x_or|away
[21:02] <chazco> jrib - Given that network manager wont work anyway, i think i'll try it... wasnt sure if support was still there or not. Thanks :)
[21:02] <mehelp> glacius: that's all i know
[21:03] <platius> Maltor124; http://www.supergrubdisk.org/forum/index.php?board=2.0    have you looked through SuperGrub's forums?
[21:05] <WormDrink> Hi
[21:05] <WormDrink> I want to set up a local package mirror
[21:05] <djhash> glacius: in playback.. if you dont see headphones click on edit->preferences and look for headphones and select it
[21:06] <djhash> glacius: ignore that
[21:06] <WormDrink> but i want it to be more of a package cache really
[21:06] <Dominik> in ubuntu there is a way to zoom in and out. how do I do this?
[21:06] <glacius> djhash: ok
[21:06] <WormDrink> meaning if a user tries to fetch a package it should be mirrored
[21:06] <glacius> djhash: its checked already
[21:06] <djhash> glacius: actually.. do that.. forget about switches.. in the playback tab.. make sure there is a headphone column
[21:07] <WormDrink> but i dont want to mirror 30 gb of packages if only 2 gb is being used
[21:07] <chadeldridge> Dominik: you can use the Orca tool its in assistive technologies in system
[21:07] <solstralen> @Dominik: Win+1, Win+2, Win+3
[21:07] <pw-toxic> Dominik: did you try preferences -> keyboard shortcut?
[21:07] <glacius> djhash: its checked but it is only in switches tab
[21:08] <djhash> glacius: there might be something that is not proper.. mess around with mixer settings.. and see if something will cause sound to come out of the headphones.. (unless ofcourse the issue is in the headphones being broken :-P)
[21:08] <pooronet> #perl
[21:09] <akjda> should I choose primary or logical when partitioning for the / mount point?
[21:09] <BoomShaka> has anyone here installed gnome do on 8.10? if so could you explain how, the repos on the wiki refer to hardy, so I was wondering if I should use them or not... ?
[21:09] <glacius> djhash: nothe hp isfine works with mp3 player
[21:09] <pw-toxic> ahhhh i need help with my graphic drivers!
[21:09] <Agent7629> anyone out there have a link for a decent guide on "customizing conky for beginners" ?
[21:09] <nothing12345> akjda: primary if there is enough place ( at most 4 primary)
[21:09] <cars__> akjda, primary if you can, otherwise logical
[21:10] <jonaskoelker> Agent7629: have a look at my conkyrc, http://rafb.net/p/6WzpOP10.html
[21:10] <terrestre> someone using a speedtch and intrepid 64bit?
[21:10] <jonaskoelker> Agent7629: and read the manual.  It love you long time
[21:11] <akjda> thx guys
[21:11] <Kenjiro> good afternoon/evening
[21:11] <Dominik> a minute ago my system went awall and whenever I used my scroll wheel it zoomed in and out.... I figured a key was stuck but can't figure otu which one it was
[21:11] <cars__> Is there a special way I can mount a ext3 drive to a certain directory inside /home (as I could with an ntfs partition), or can I just use mount?
[21:11] <chaos1> how do i get the sound to be recorded with recordmydesktop? I can hear movies and music.
[21:11] <id10t> 'lo all...
[21:11] <Kenjiro> has anyone here tried compiling kdebindings-4.1.3?
[21:11] <Agent7629> jonaskoelker: yea, the manual is my next stop (before i dove in, i figured i'd ask for advice on it tho) cause sometimes manuals only confuse you more
[21:12] <terrestre> !es
[21:12] <terrestre> !es > Terrasque
[21:12] <jonaskoelker> Agent7629: true.  The conky manual is more a reference than a tutorial (as are most man pages)
[21:12] <terrestre> !es > terrestre
[21:12] <M4d3L> hi. I have some problem installing Zend Studio on my machine. The error message tell me the installer cant read the /tmp/install.10424/linux/....... but if I go see in the directory. I can see the file. and they are chmod 777
[21:12] <djhash> glacius: yeah.. the only thing is to check the mixer settings.. maybe something ended up not being labelled properly.. its possible that the port is not headphones.. but rather aux or line out etc..
[21:12] <BuFF> could someone tell me how to install the Lexmark X4550 printer (has wi-fi) ?
[21:12] <id10t> having some probs setting up gdm for xdmcp in ubuntu 8.04... i've enabled it in the gdm.conf and can connect from local host either with X :1 -query or Xnest :1 -query, but remote machines can't
[21:12] <^hellfire^> siema
[21:12] <glacius> djhash: ok
[21:13] <Things> Hi, would anyone be able to help me with the partition editor in Ubuntu ?
[21:13] <chaos1> Things:
[21:13] <chaos1> yes
[21:13] <Things> thanks
[21:14] <chaos1> :-?
[21:14] <Things> I have my hard drive, which basically already has 1 partition on it
[21:14] <fukien> fghfkdsghjksdfgfd
[21:14] <Things> that partition is NTFS, but the partition editor wont let me resize it
[21:14] <BWM> Hi all.
[21:14] <djhash> is there a specific HW requirement to us ubuntustudio to get realtime cpu usage?
[21:14] <cars__> Things, how much free space do you have on it?
[21:14] <BWM> I have 8.10 beta, I just ran a software upgrade and updated everything
[21:15] <Things> About 15GB
[21:15] <id10t> Things - make sure windows shut down cleanly.  boot to windows, run chkdisk /f on it, reboot to windows *twice*,and you should be good to go
[21:15] <nickgarvey> Things: did you turn off windows properly?  if you turned it off abruptly a flag is ticked - yeah that one
[21:15] <BWM> but I don't see the distribution update thingy in Software Update/Update Manager when I check
[21:15] <thomc> Is driver support for Nvidia and ATI cards better than that for intel?
[21:15] <BWM> and typing sudo apt-get dist-upgrade yeilds "0 packages avaliable"
[21:15] <chaos1> Things: it sounds like you need to shutdown Windows properly.
[21:15] <Things> I have tried that
[21:15] <cars__> id10t, wouldn't you need to defrag as well so it's all done cleanly?
[21:15] <nothing12345> things what is ur problem?
[21:15] <id10t> cars__, i've not had to, but then i don't dual boot....
[21:15] <berty642> good evening
[21:16] <BWM> good evening XD
[21:16] <BoomShaka> has anyone here installed gnome do on 8.10? if so could you explain how, the repos on the wiki refer to hardy, so I was wondering if I should use them or not... ?
[21:16] <Things> ive ran a disk check,, but not the /f one ?
[21:16] <chadeldridge> Does anyone have a MSI Wind laptop ?
[21:16] <brodiesel> hey sidi you still around?
[21:16] <nickgarvey> cars__, id10t: defraging is good practice and may make things go faster but isn't usually needed
[21:16] <chaos1> Things: /f will force the check on restart
[21:16] <jonaskoelker> BWM: do you have intrepid in your /etc/apt/sources.list?  Try doing an apt-get update
[21:16] <nickgarvey> although I always do
[21:16] <cars__> Is there a special way I can mount a ext3 drive to a certain directory inside /home (as I could with an ntfs partition), or can I just use mount?
[21:16] <Things> Yeah, ive done the dskchk already
[21:16] <BWM> kk
[21:17] <nickgarvey> Things: is this the ubuntu partition resizer you are using?
[21:17] <Things> The only time the yellow usage bar shows up in the partition is when the drive is mounted
[21:17] <jonaskoelker> cars__: I'm not sure what you're asking, but "just use mount" sounds right
[21:17] <Things> But then it wont let me resize it
[21:17] <nickgarvey> Things: oh you can't resize when it is mounted though
[21:17] <patmaddox> when you install the flash plugin in firefox, is that an open source plugin or does it come from adobe?
[21:17] <SiDi> brodiesel, yes
[21:17] <Things> Yeah
[21:17] <SiDi> brodiesel, i'm leaving soon though
[21:17] <jonaskoelker> patmaddox: flashplugin-nonfree is adobe
[21:17] <Things> But it wont let me resize it at all
[21:18] <karsten> patmaddox: There are both.  The Adobe one works better, unfortunately.
[21:18] <nickgarvey> patmaddox: most likely adobe, gnash I think it is is open source
[21:18] <glacius> djhash: thanks i will continue to search
[21:18] <nickgarvey> I think !flash has some info
[21:18] <berty642> can anyone help getting usb to work on virtual machine using intrepid and virtualbox ose? thanks
[21:18] <BWM> It's running... lemme try the upgrade again.
[21:18] <Things> The minimum space is the same as the max
[21:18] <jonaskoelker> patmaddox: if you reinstall it from a terminate, piping std{out,err} to a file, you'll see it wget a file from adobe
[21:18] <BWM> yes, the nonfree is best I'm afraid
[21:18] <BWM> I use that :(
[21:18] <brodiesel> i attempted to use the rom as a repository and it unmounted the drive and loaded in synaptic, but then as it started copying the pacjkages, said it couldnt resolve the drive. thoughts?
[21:18] <patmaddox> alright, thanks for the explanations everyone
[21:19] <Things> Ive run a dskchk, and ive also run a defrag on windows
[21:19] <brodiesel> any other way to download and save something while on the disc that can be accessed in the install?
[21:19] <BWM> ...nope
[21:19] <BWM> still nothing
[21:19] <BWM> all my settings are correct; I've checked the guide
[21:19] <BWM> is there some way to see my ubuntu version?
[21:19] <id10t> having some probs setting up gdm for xdmcp in ubuntu 8.04... i've enabled it in the gdm.conf and can connect from local host either with X :1 -query or Xnest :1 -query, but remote machines can't. No FW in the way, etc
[21:20] <nxxs> hi nochmal!
[21:20] <karsten> berty642: Mounting in it your host OS and exporting the filesystem (Samba, NFS) is probably your best bet for that.
[21:20] <zsquareplusc> BWM: see "system->info about ubuntu" menu.
[21:20] <SiDi> brodiesel, please try to write "SiDi" in your messages adressed to me as i'm on 5 channels
[21:20] <Sinister> can you run vuze 4.0 in 8.10 64 bit ?
[21:20] <BWM> it says I have 8.10
[21:20] <Things> Why wonmt it let me resize the partition? :(
[21:20] <BWM> not 8.10 beta
[21:20] <BWM> XD
[21:21] <karsten> id10t: You'll have to disable the "notcp" (I think) option on the xserver, if you want to connect directly over a non-tunneled (eg: ssh) session.
[21:21] <chainoo> #ubuntu-es
[21:21] <pangloss> Things: use gparted
[21:21] <zsquareplusc> !enter | BWM
[21:21] <Things> I am
[21:21] <woody86> when you're building a dual-boot machine, you install windows first, and then ubuntu, right? Or is it the other way around?
[21:21] <Things> But it wont let me change the size
[21:21] <SiDi> brodiesel, no idea about that weird message you had about the CD. other ways would be to check how to make your own repository (complicated afaik), or take the packages from packages.ubuntu.com but it may be hard to find the good ones and dependencies
[21:21] <cars__> woody86, windows first, then Ubuntu
[21:21] <id10t> karsten, thanks!
[21:21] <BWM> Okay, sorry.
[21:21] <pangloss> Things: you rebooted computer with gparted live cd?
[21:21] <d00kiejones> hello
[21:22] <pangloss> Things: and it would not let you resize?
[21:22] <SiDi> brodiesel, either, get  an ethernet cable for the time to install your drivers ^^
[21:22] <woody86> cars__- ok, that's what I thought. Thanks :)
[21:22] <Things> Ive got the latest Ubuntu live CD ?
[21:22] <karsten> id10t: I'm trying to find where that's set.
[21:22] <pangloss> Things: no you need gparted to resize partitions
[21:22] <OxDeadC0de> woody86 you can do it the other way around too, but windows will erase grub from the mbr
[21:22] <OxDeadC0de> that's why most people do it windows first then lin
[21:22] <karsten> id10t: Essentially:  X won't listen to remote connections by default now.  It's a security feature, as X sends all traffic clear over the local net.
[21:22] <brodiesel> sidi: thanks, yeah i share wireless with the neighbors, but that might be the only way to do it. thanks again!
[21:22] <id10t> karsten, i can find it in gdm.conf
[21:22] <pangloss> Things: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/
[21:22] <woody86> OxDeadC0de- ah, I see
[21:22] <woody86> thanks
[21:22] <cars__> jonaskoelker, I'm asking if I can mount an ext3 partition at a specific directory (/home/user/morespace) on my main partition.  The one I'm trying to mount is an old Debian or Ubuntu install which went awry and I reinstalled on another partition. I'd still like to keep the old /home directory, but don't need the rest of the OS on there.  Does that make more sense?
[21:23] <karsten> OxDeadC0de: It's easy enough to replace.
[21:23] <ilia> Hi! Any X.org + HAL experts out there?
[21:23] <karsten> OxDeadC0de: Also, your nick *should* be 0x, not Ox (number, not letterO.
[21:23] <SiDi> brodiesel, you're welcome, sorry not to be able to help you more
[21:23] <karsten> id10t: Ask.
[21:23] <karsten> ilia: Ask.
[21:23] <id10t> karsten, line 266 of gdm.conf on my ubuntu 8.04
[21:23] <karsten> id10t: NM.
[21:23] <OxDeadC0de> karsten lol I know, but freenode won't let me use 0 as the first charactor
[21:23] <karsten> id10t: There you go.
[21:23] <levander> syslog says it recognized my USB mass storage device, but the output of mount indicates it's not mounted and it doesn't show up in Nautilus either.  Any hints on where to start debugging?
[21:24] <id10t> levander, dmesg
[21:24] <id10t> levander, or unplug it, tail -f /var/log/messages and plug it in
[21:24] <slayton> I just upgraded to intrepid and my keyboard is really funny... my PgUp PgDn and arrow keys are not working
[21:24] <BWM> ah well. It's not a huge problem atm.
[21:24] <BWM> Thanks all, bye.
[21:24] <Things> I'll try the gparted live CD, thanks for the help :)
[21:24] <karsten> id10t: "nolisten tcp" is the option.
[21:25] <ironmedic> hi is this the tech support chat?
[21:25] <jonaskoelker> cars__: it shows why the answer isn't as straightforward as I first thought, but I can't quite make out what you're asking.  Even so, I think the answer is either "Yes", or "You can do something better", or "You can do something to that effect"
[21:25] <karsten> ironmedic: /topic.  Yes.
[21:25] <levander> id10t: this is what comes up: http://pastebin.ca/1247288
[21:25] <pangloss> ironmedic: ask away
[21:25] <id10t> karsten, yup, found it. will test when i get to my lab later
[21:25] <pangloss> !topic
[21:25] <Juaco> how do i change the resolution on the consoles in ubuntu? the ones on F1, F2 etc
[21:25] <levander> id10t: looks fine to me
[21:25] <karsten> id10t: G'luck.
[21:25] <OxDeadC0de> juaco find the proper vga= line to pass to the kernel at grub
[21:25] <ironmedic> i need some help.  i cant get the gnome display manager to start on my inspiron 2500 laptop.  i have to turn off apci and what not when i boot with CD
[21:26] <levander> id10t: is sdc the device file for my usb device in that output?
[21:26] <Scut> is the any statistics about ubuntu download in time period?
[21:26] <jonaskoelker> cars__: you have one partition with a lot of data in /home/cars/*, and you have another partition with a lot of data *except* in /home/cars/*, and you want to have a lot of data everywhere.  Right?
[21:26] <karsten> Juaco: Usually with a   GRUB vga= option.  You might also be able to use another utility whose name is escaping me.
[21:26] <wolfwalker> Why will the latest Ubuntu 8.10 not boot on my laptop unless quiet splash is turned off?
[21:26] <Juaco> OxDeadC0decool, karsten: thanx
[21:27] <wolfwalker> And why is xchat-gnome the only thing that shows up when I search synaptic for xchat?
[21:27] <id10t> levander, yes it is. but since it is a moto phone, i'm not sure if it has a partition.  one of my students did a demo of moto4lin and it worked well, as long as he ran it as root via sudo
[21:27] <fonzarelli> wolfwalker: have you tried letting it sit and attempt to boot for like 5 minutes
[21:27] <nothing12345> Does anyone use "Tom's Windows manager" =
[21:27] <wolfwalker> fonzarelli yup
[21:27] <jimcooncat> please, how to list all ethX installed? ifconfig seems to be missing two
[21:27] <wolfwalker> Just freezes up
[21:27] <dp_> still no sound.  though, I installed some of intrepid-proposed, and the module seems to be used "more"
[21:27] <nothing12345> *window
[21:27] <fonzarelli> wolfwalker: k, with Hardy I thought it wasn't booting but it turned out it was waiting for something to time out at boot time from the cd, not sure what
[21:27] <wolfwalker> Yeah, Hardy is cool.  Intrepid is what is giving me a fit.
[21:27] <karsten> Juaco: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Framebuffer-HOWTO-5.html
[21:28] <jonaskoelker> nothing12345: I'd think so, otherwise ubuntu probably wouldn't package it.  You can check in the popularity-contest results if you want hard numbers...
[21:28] <ironmedic> i need some help.  i cant get the gnome display manager to start on my inspiron 2500 laptop.  i have to turn off apci and what not when i boot with CD and it works fine.  i dont know how to edit the boot to make it load right from the HD
[21:28] <karsten> Juaco: Lists the resolutions that should be available.
[21:28] <ilia> In the last X.org (in ubuntu 8.10) the input driver (evdev) for both mouse and keyboard works by default through HAL. I run 2 X servers simultaneously and need to specify which keyboard/mouse is used by which server. Right now I've disabled HAL support (Option  "AutoAddDevices" "false") and use an older method (Option      "Device" "/dev/input/by-path/pci-0000:00:02.1-usb-0:10.2:1.0-event-kbd"). Anybody knows how can I make HAL tell about some mouse/kbd to 1st
[21:28] <ilia> X server and about others to 2nd X server, or something like this?
[21:28] <id10t> jimcooncat, ifconfig -a
[21:28] <Scut> is the any statistics about ubuntu download in time period?
[21:28] <karsten> ironmedic: You can edit the boot command by interrupting grub at boot time.
[21:28] <jimcooncat> id10t: thanks very much
[21:28] <id10t> jimcooncat, np
[21:29] <ironmedic> im still learning commands and what not. im not totally sure what to add to the boot
[21:29] <karsten> ironmedic: Hit 'e' to edit your boot stanza.  Go to the kernel line and add 'noacpi acpi=no', then <enter>, then 'b' to boot.
[21:29] <ironmedic> ok
[21:29] <karsten> ironmedic: there's a help command when you're there.
[21:29] <feindbild> how can I upgrade to php-5.2.6 on ubuntu 6.06.02?
[21:29] <dp_> anyone know what I should be looking for relating to audio problems in intrepid?
[21:30] <AlienX> is it possible to use encryptfs on an entire partition...ie /home ?
[21:30] <karsten> ironmedic: To permanently change this, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst (as root), and edit the options lines (they're commented) at the top of the file.
[21:30] <Adylas> Hello, I like my hostname to be set by the record in my DNS at boot up with Hardy, is this possible ?
[21:30] <jonaskoelker> ilia: in which section does one set AutoAddDevices?
[21:31] <karsten> ironmedic: You want to modify the kopt line.  Add the same values (acpi=no noacpi) to that.  Then run (as root) update-grub
[21:31] <ilia> jonaskoelker: ServerFlags
[21:31] <karsten> ironmedic: At that point the option should be persistent.  Reboot to test.
[21:31] <jonaskoelker> ilia: thanks.  You might have just saved my week, as this appears I can make EmulateWheel settings survive unplugs :)
[21:31] <wolfwalker> Does anyone know how I can find regular ole XChat (NOT XChat-Gnome, which is a severely locked-down program) in Synaptic in Intrepid?
[21:31] <cars__> jonaskoelker, I'll try to explain it better.  It's something like that. I have two partitions. My main partition which is / (partition A), and another partition ("Partition B" an old Ubuntu install which I don't need anymore except for its /home directory).  I want to mount partition B onto my current /home/user/morespace directory, effectively merging the two filesystems.
[21:32] <wolfwalker> cars__ that sounds incredibly dangerous.
[21:32] <jonaskoelker> cars__: That's just a simple mount then
[21:32] <neil_d> I have a problem with cron :(  The cron.daily scripts are meant to run at 3.25am but are running at 7.30-8.00am why ?
[21:32] <karsten> Adylas: You can run preup/postup commands when you bring up networking.  Might be able to hook it in that way.  I wouldn't generally do that.
[21:32] <j2daosh> hey all
[21:32] <karsten> Adylas: Hostname should be canonical and hardcoded.
[21:32] <j2daosh> dumb question, how can I play an ISO movie?
[21:32] <j2daosh> i tried to mount with -o loop but it wont play it
[21:33] <pangloss> j2daosh: mount should work.. what did you mount it to?
[21:33] <cars__> jonaskoelker, wolfwalker:  Your responses are very conflicting :)
[21:33] <karsten> Adylas: http://jblevins.org/computing/linux/hostname
[21:33] <wolfwalker> Yup
[21:33] <jonaskoelker> cars__: :)
[21:33] <karsten> neil_d: UTC?
[21:33] <ironmedic> karsten:  thanks for the information.  i will give it a try and see how it works!
[21:33] <slayton> !clone > slayton
[21:34] <wolfwalker> But I think jonaskoelker was reading the mount part while I was reading the merge part cars__
[21:34] <jonaskoelker> cars__: wait, you have data in /dev/B/home/cars you want to keep?
[21:34] <j2daosh> mount -o loop /media/external/WANTED.ISO /mnt/movies
[21:34] <j2daosh> i see the VIDEO_TS got loaded, but not the audio
[21:34] <pangloss> j2daosh: then you navigated to /mnt/movies   .....?
[21:34] <neil_d> karsten: I don't know, the 'date' program gives the correct time.
[21:34] <j2daosh> yes
[21:34] <wolfwalker> Does anyone know how I can find regular ole XChat (NOT XChat-Gnome, which is a severely locked-down program) in Synaptic in Intrepid?
[21:34] <jonaskoelker> brb, gotta shoot down x :)
[21:34] <pangloss> j2daosh: sounds like a codec problem
[21:35] <j2daosh> band new install of ubuntu 8.10
[21:35] <pangloss> j2daosh: if sound isn't working, what did you use to play it?
[21:35] <j2daosh> dragon player attempted to load the video file, but couldn't fined the media
[21:35] <Adylas> karsten: Well, I dont know if you remember that time but redhat was asking in his setup if you want to set a hostname or get the one from DNS. I know its a special setup but its nice when you have a lots of clients.
[21:35] <cars__> jonaskoelker, yes.  Otherwise I'd just format the partition.  Would it be easier to just back that data up, format it, and reinstall the whole thing over again, making a separate /home partition out of partition B?
[21:35] <hateball> wolfwalker♂ sudo apt-get install xchat, should give you the vanilla version
[21:35] <OxDeadC0de> wolfwalker aptitude search xchat returns xchat for me, try enabling the other repositories in software sources
[21:35] <pangloss> j2daosh: ever try vlc?
[21:35] <j2daosh> i think sound works, its just the mount doesn't show the AUDIO_TS folder
[21:36] <karsten> neil_d: What's your TZ offset?  'date -R' gives that in RFC 2822 (mail) format
[21:36] <j2daosh> after i ran that mount command it only shows VIDEO_TS in the /movies dir
[21:36] <wolfwalker> hateball tried that.  reloaded all repositories, added all repos I could think of, etc, still wouldn't give me REAL XChat.
[21:36] <pangloss> j2daosh: are you sure your ISO isnt corrupt?
[21:36] <Flannel> wolfwalker: You simply need universe, and the package is "xchat", please pastebin your sources.list and we'll take a look
[21:36] <wolfwalker> I can find xchat just fine in 8.04, but not in 8.10.  Is there a filter that is turned on by default?
[21:36] <marek_> fsck says my superblock is bad, is this the end of my HDD?
[21:36] <feindbild> anybody ... how can I upgrade to php-5.2.6 on ubuntu 6.06.02?
[21:37] <neil_d> karsten: sydney/australia = +11 atm
[21:37] <cars__> wolfwalker, a simple "add/remove..." then type xchat gave me both versions available to install
[21:37] <BrickHaus> In Ubuntu 8.10 is the "i810" driver depredicated in place of the "intel" driver for onboard video?
[21:37] <hateball> wolfwalker♂ Flannel is right, Universe is needed
[21:37] <jonaskoelker> cars__: I'd do "find /home/cars | sort > /home/cars/A-files.txt" and "find /mnt/B/home/cars | sort > /home/cars/B-files.txt", then "combine A-files.txt and B-files.txt" (install moreutils)
[21:37] <wolfwalker> I have both universe ticked.
[21:37] <chadeldridge> BrickHaus: yes
[21:37] <jonaskoelker> cars__: if you don't have that many overlapping files, just move to your new home
[21:37] <edd> hi, can someone please help me with a blank screen after login?
[21:37] <wolfwalker> of course, I was trying during day 2 of Ubuntu 8.10..........
[21:37] <wolfwalker> Servers were in fact awfully crowded.
[21:38] <karsten> neil_d: Nope, it's not that then.  You have cron or anacron installed?
[21:38] <neil_d> karsten: by my calculations, that would mean an 2pm if it was using UTC.
[21:38] <jonaskoelker> cars__: oh well, do you have room for all your old files on your new home?  Then just backup, nuke from orbit and restore.
[21:38] <philippe_> wolfwalker, your need to check "All available software" in Add/Remove
[21:38] <tpp> Hi I'm having a problem watching streaming video in firefox, it all works fine but after 10 minutes the screen starts to dim. I've adjusted all the Ubuntu setting for brightness to never dim the screen, but it still happens!
[21:38] <karsten> Adylas: I didn't say I *wouldn't*, I just said I'd be leary of it.
[21:38] <jonaskoelker> cars__: that is, mkfs.ext3 on B, and mount it somewhere inside /home/cars
[21:38] <Flannel> wolfwalker: pastebin your sources list please, and the output of 'sudo apt-get update'
[21:38] <Adylas> karsten: ;-)
[21:38] <BrickHaus> chadeldridge: Thanks. Is there a good tool probe and make xorg.conf file. My rez is capped at 800 by 600
[21:39] <neil_d> karsten: it appears to have both.
[21:39] <Flannel> feindbild: Why do you need 5.2.6?
[21:39] <philippe_> wolfwalker, to select. By default, only application maintain by Canonical is shown, and Xchat is not in their list
[21:39] <karsten> Adylas: I've worked with large farms.  Setting something that checks periodically for the assigned name of a host, and writing that to a file periodically, might be doable (so a chronjob'd check).  What happens if DNS isn't up or something else goes wrong?  I'd still like to have something persistent offering a hostname.
[21:40] <karsten> neil_d: anacron can result in jobs not running when scheduled.  You also want to check TZ values for cron and such.  You can examine a running cron process's environment in /proc/<PID>/env
[21:40] <neil_d> karsten: maybe I should stop anacron
[21:40] <karsten> neil_d: It's an ascii-nul terminated string, so you'll need to unpack it....
[21:40] <cars__> jonaskoelker, the problem is that partition B is an old (2005ish) install.  My current / partition (which includes /home, unfortunately) is only 11GB total (2.8GB free).    Turning off universe by default?
[21:41] <Flannel> !usplash | winterelf
[21:41] <boo2> Hi, no matter what program I use I cannot burn a CD, brasero gives me "a write error occured which was likely due to overburning the disc (brasero_burn_record burn.c:2270)", anyone experienced this? (this used to work for me just fine and google doesn't provide any answers)
[21:41] <feindbild> Flannel: lastest stable version, has got LOTS of bugfixes and json functions ...
[21:41] <wolfwalker> Do tell me they are just testing some things out to see what flies and what crashes.
[21:41] <wolfwalker> Please
[21:41] <karsten> neil_d: tr -s '\000' '\n' < /proc/self/environ | grep ^TZ=
[21:41] <Pirate_Hunter> is there an app like bluej (http://www.bluej.org/) in ubuntu? otherwise i'll be forced to go into windows :(
[21:41] <winterelf> ubottu : thanks
[21:41] <jonaskoelker> cars__: in that case, move everything to B and use that as the new home
[21:41] <Flannel> wolfwalker: No, universe is enabled by default, but add/remove only shows a small subset of packages (which are recommended).  Synaptic gives you full blown repos
[21:41] <karsten> neil_d: ... modulo s/self/<PID>/ there as that looks at the calling process.
[21:41] <jonaskoelker> if you're happing running your OS from A
[21:41] <BrickHaus> Any good guides on how to configure xorg.conf file? I've got montior specs just don't know what to put in for my video card correctly.
[21:41] <Flannel> feindbild: Will 5.2.4 work (plus buxgfixes?)
[21:42] <karsten> neil_d: ... otoh you could schedule that as a cronjob to see what's happening.
[21:42] <wolfwalker> Great.  More things to change after install...........
[21:42] <feindbild> Flannel: yes, 5.2 would work ...
[21:42] <karsten> neil_d: root to read another user's process, natch.
[21:42] <Gnea> yay, upgrade from Hardy to Ibex succeeded with flying colors!
[21:42] <wolfwalker> That's one of the things I really liked about Ubuntu.  Almost everything was set up just right for basic end-users.  Not at all like Windows-anything.
[21:42] <karsten> boo2: I've had really good results with k3b.  Not sure of debug.
[21:42] <jonaskoelker> Gnea: congrats
[21:42] <feindbild> Flannel: plus I'm wondering how to install pecl on ububtu ... it is part of PHP ...
[21:42] <karsten> Pirate_Hunter: What does bluej do?
[21:42] <reconn> how can I disable the "unluck default keyring" dialogue? I want it to connect automatically to a hotspot near by
[21:42] <Flannel> feindbild: Yeah, I see it in the changelong.  5.2.4 is available in Hardy, if you are willing to upgrade to the next LTS.  (You can upgrade from 6.06 straight to 8.04)
[21:43] <Andreica> why netbeans works so slow on Ubuntu?
[21:43] <Gnea> jonaskoelker: I'm especially impressed with the kernel support it's got so far. found my tvcard right off the bat.
[21:43] <Debolaz> I'm trying to play a DVD in ubuntu using VLC, but it keeps failing on me with problems similar to this: http://lists.medibuntu.org/pipermail/bugs/2007-April/000181.html
[21:43] <Pirate_Hunter> karsten: hmm i posted a link but yeah it allows me to compile java programs
[21:43] <jonaskoelker> Gnea: awesome!
[21:43] <feindbild> Flannel: I'm a slackware user ... I don't know much about ubuntu ... and I don't have physical access to the machine in question ... so I'm not very fond of doing a dist upgrade ...
[21:43] <Debolaz> Mplayer didn't fare any better.
[21:43] <karsten> Pirate_Hunter: aptitude search java ide
[21:44] <karsten> Pirate_Hunter: It's a Java IDE.  You could just say that.
[21:44] <Gnea> jonaskoelker: yes, no more fighting with v4l-dvb :)
[21:44] <Debolaz> Is there some magical trick to getting DVD playback working in Ubuntu?
[21:44] <feindbild> Flannel: cause if something goes wrong ... I have no way to fix it by inserting a CD ...
[21:44] <reconn> how can I disable the "unluck default keyring" dialogue? I want it to connect automatically to a hotspot near by
[21:44] <Bill8[ITA]> CIAO
[21:44] <Bill8[ITA]> !LISTA
[21:45] <cars__> jonaskoelker, In that case, how do I move my current /home to /home on partition B?  I'm currently logged in as the user, of course.  Do I need to reboot into a liveCD?
[21:45] <philippe_> Debolaz, don't know about VLC. For getting DVD to work, I install totem-xime and then I uninstall totem-gstreamer. That's all :)
[21:45] <Andreica> i installed netbeans on ubuntu, and it works very very slow, can anybody help me fix this problem?
[21:45] <karsten> Pirate_Hunter: Eclipse, Emacs, Xemacs, geany.  Google "linux java ide"
[21:46] <jarco> what is the reason for ubuntu not graphicly supporting iso mounting? Or did i change in 8.10?
[21:46] <winterelf> ubottu : it seems like the link doesn't work... after i install what u said to me about the splash screem how should i open the program who shange it?
[21:46] <jonaskoelker> cars__: create a new user, log in as that user.
[21:46] <Pirate_Hunter> karsten: i couldnt say that since i didnt know it was a java ide, im noob to java
[21:46] <neil_d> karsten: this computer is a server, and spends most of it time on, shouldn't it be ok to disable anacron ?
[21:46] <winterelf> ubottu : if there is any
[21:46] <Gnea> !dvd | Debolaz
[21:46] <karsten> Pirate_Hunter: Good list of 'em here:  http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Devtools/ides.html
[21:46] <jonaskoelker> cars__: use ps -Fe | grep cars to check that your normal user isn't running anything
[21:46] <karsten> neil_d: Yes.  I'd purge it frankly.
[21:46] <DJones> winterelf: ubottu is a bot
[21:46] <Pirate_Hunter> karsten: thank you very much youre a darling
[21:46] <Flannel> feindbild: The only PHP version available for dapper is 5.1.2, which has all of the security updates, but you can't use JSON without the php5-json package
[21:46] <jonaskoelker> cars__: though I wouldn't worry too much about the file system being in use
[21:46] <winterelf> DJones : hmmmmmmmmmmmm so how?
[21:47] <winterelf> :/
[21:47] <jonaskoelker> cars__: you're just copying/moving files, not changing file systems or partitioning
[21:47] <feindbild> Flannel: not available in that version :/
[21:47] <karsten> Pirate_Hunter: That's not what my girlfriend says.
[21:47] <DJones> winterelf: I didn't see your original question, so I'm afraid I've no idea what you're looking into
[21:47] <Flannel> feindbild: What?  php5-json is available
[21:47] <Pirate_Hunter> karsten, what she wont know what shes missing till its gone
[21:47] <Flannel> feindbild: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/php5-json
[21:47] <jonaskoelker> cars__: the worst thing I think could happen is that some daemon (say, trackerd) modifies your per-user cache while you're updating it, and you lose the updates, or your get a corrupted file.  Most of "your own" files the system doesn't touch on its own...
[21:47] <karsten> Pirate_Hunter: Heh.
[21:48] <winterelf> DJones : i wanna change my spalsg screen (the screen that appears when i'm booting linux) i'm using kubuntu hardy (8.01
[21:48] <feindbild> Flannel: # apt-get install php5-json Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done E: Couldn't find package php5-json
[21:48] <reconn> how can I disable the "unluck default keyring" dialogue? I want it to connect automatically to a hotspot near by
[21:48] <winterelf> DJones : 8.04
[21:48] <DJones> winterelf: I've just read the scrollback to ubottu's response about usplash, the link mentioned seems ok to me
[21:49] <karsten> reconn: Um, exact error message?
[21:49] <Flannel> feindbild: It's in universe, you must not have universe enabled
[21:49] <winterelf> DJones : thanks i'll try again
[21:49] <feindbild> Flannel: how? ^^
[21:49] <Flannel> !universe | feindbild
[21:50] <j2daosh> ok, sorry about that. had to take a phone call
[21:50] <Flannel> feindbild: edit your sources.list (/etc/apt/sources.list) and uncomment the universe lines
[21:50] <Debolaz> philippe: Thanks, that worked.
[21:50] <reconn> karsten
[21:50] <reconn> verytime Ubuntu boots up this annoying message pops up asking for the keyring, is there a way to disable this?
[21:50] <feindbild> Flannel: thank you :) I'll try ^^
[21:50] <j2daosh> ok, last thing i saw was sometone telling me the file was corrupt. that isn't the case because it plays on windows when i use daemon tools to mount it
[21:50] <cars__> jonaskoelker, I'm trying to create a new user using Users and Groups, but I can't seem to authenticate to unlock it.  It's not accepting my password.  I know there's a CLI command to do the same thing, but I'm a newbie in most parts of it.
[21:50] <j2daosh> so, what else ya got?
[21:51] <Hentay> hy guys :)
[21:51] <j2daosh> keep in mind that it is a brand new install and i dont have access to the internet at the present moment
[21:51] <karsten> reconn: I don't think you're quoting it right.  What is the *exact* message?
[21:51] <j2daosh> so no downloading vlc or w32codecs for me just yet
[21:51] <karsten> reconn: .. and  where does it appear and in what context in the boot process?  Is this on boot, on login, BIOS, GRUB, kernel, what?
[21:52] <animexangel118> im having trouble getting wireless working on a Compaq F700, is anyone familiar with this issue?
[21:52] <karsten> animexangel118: Describe your hardware, steps you've taken, errors and/or debug output.
[21:52] <czajkowski> reconn: ahhh same keyring pops up when I hook up to wireless
[21:52] <karsten> !wireless > animexangel118
[21:52] <czajkowski> reconn: I just click cancel and I can connect to wireless without any issue/
[21:53] <Hentay> guys express ur opinion due to: The main diferences between ubuntu and debian... how dou think...
[21:53] <animexangel118> karsten, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=972790
[21:53] <bimberi> !debian | Hentay
[21:53] <Bilbo_Boy> Hentay: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:53] <Flannel> Hentay: That question is best asked in #ubuntu-offtopic, this channel is primarily for support.  Thanks.
[21:53] <Hentay> thanks :)
[21:54] <george_> hello guys i cant login like administrator to terminal what i have to do?
[21:54] <czajkowski> george_: sudo ?
[21:54] <george_> i try
[21:54] <karsten> czajkowski: OK, so you're good?
[21:54] <feindbild> Flannel: uhm ... I'm surpried once again ... what dependency exaclty would php have on git? :O
[21:54] <j2daosh> anyone?
[21:54] <karsten> george_: Root is disabled.  Use sudo.
[21:54] <george_> 2min
[21:54] <feindbild> Flannel: or vim ...
[21:55] <czajkowski> karsten: I wish, same thing happened to me once when I first installed :)
[21:55] <karsten> animexangel118: Context?
[21:55] <animexangel118> karsten, ?
[21:55] <animexangel118> karsten, the driver does not work
[21:55] <spatman_> Some one Running World of warcraft with wine? have problem ingame.
[21:55] <karsten> czajkowski: But wireless works now?
[21:56] <george_> i
[21:56] <animexangel118> karsten, the device is not listed when i run iwconfig
[21:56] <karsten> animexangel118: Sorry.  What driver?  I'm not clear of context.  What's you rproblem.
[21:56] <karsten> animexangel118: OK.  What's your wifi card?
[21:56] <animexangel118> karsten, atheros
[21:56] <thanos> hello
[21:57] <thanos> we want someone expert to help us with network sharing
[21:57] <czajkowski> karsten: aye the keyring apple thing only came on since I was at lugradio and someone went near it and it appears every time, even though I've added my password to it , canceling it just kills it and lets you log in as normal
[21:57] <thanos> please
[21:57] <spatman_> Some one Running World of warcraft with wine? have problem ingame.
[21:57] <jonaskoelker> cars__: sudo adduser iamnotcars
[21:57] <thanos> anybody here??
[21:58] <karsten> !ask > thanos
[21:58] <george_> like how?
[21:58] <jonaskoelker> cars__: sorry for the delay, I was beating up my xorg :)
[21:58] <Pirate_Hunter> how do i check if my system has JDK or J2SDK installed?
[21:58] <Flannel> feindbild: It shouldn't.
[21:58] <karsten> animexangel118: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Atheros
[21:58] <karsten> animexangel118: Try that first.
[21:58] <cars__> jonaskoelker, That's all?  I thought i had to mess around with groups. :)  No problem!
[21:58] <karsten> animexangel118: If it doesn't work, come back w/ specific issues.
 like how?
[21:59]  * karsten files a restraining order on jonaskoelker
[21:59] <vbabiy> how can I start gnome-panel in a terminal and when I close it for it still to keep the gnome panel running
[21:59] <Flannel> feindbild: And it doesn't, as far as I can see.
[21:59] <jonaskoelker> karsten: huh?
[21:59] <animexangel118> karsten, i have tried that
[21:59] <tpp> Running ubuntu 8.10 on a 1st gen macbook pro, I cannot get lircd to work. I've followed all the instructions, googled around for ages. But still irw produces no output! Can anyone help?
[21:59] <Debolaz> Heh, I can actually get the DVD running in VLC in wine, but not with native VLC.
[21:59] <george_> czajkowski : like how?
[21:59] <Tetracomm> I would like to develop for the Blackberry and Google Android, can this be done on Linux?
[21:59] <czajkowski> george_: see pm
[21:59] <animexangel118> karsten, thats the thing.. the issue is so... hard to figure out.. i don't really know where to start
[21:59] <feindbild> Flannel: well ... thats what the grat ubuntu upgraded when I user: apt-get update; apt-get upgrade php5
[21:59] <feindbild> Flannel: *used
[22:00] <Vlet> Is there a way to see why pam 'decided' to deny access to a login attempt? (trying to get kerberos working)
[22:00] <jonaskoelker> karsten: what's with the restraining order?
[22:00] <cars__> jonaskoelker, Got it.  Logging in again.
[22:00] <Flannel> feindbild: upgrade upgrades all of your packages
[22:00] <jonaskoelker> cars__: cool :)
[22:00] <mpalatnik> shit my screen just inverted i hit some magical sequence of keys
[22:00] <seclm193> anyone know anything of a network manager patch for ubuntu 8.10?
[22:00] <jonaskoelker> ilia: thanks for mentioning AutoAddDevices.  I love you long time now? :)
[22:00] <neil_d> karsten: when I go to purge anacron apt-get asks to  remove "anacron* ubuntu-desktop*" !!  is this safe ?
[22:00] <mpalatnik> anyone know how to undo this??
[22:01] <Flannel> neil_d: ubuntu-desktop is merely a metapackage, yes.
[22:01] <jonaskoelker> mpalatnik: inverted?  colours?  y-flip?
[22:01] <ilia> jonaskoelker: you're wellcome
[22:01] <mpalatnik> colours
[22:01] <neil_d> Flannel: ok
[22:01] <jonaskoelker> mpalatnik: ccsm -> something under accessibility
[22:01] <Vlet> super+m, printscreen
[22:01] <jonaskoelker> mpalatnik: try ctrl-super-(n or m)
[22:01] <karsten> jonaskoelker: Beating up on xorg ;-)
[22:01] <Vlet> mpalatnik: super+m, print
[22:01] <mpalatnik> wtf is super?
[22:01] <Vlet> mpalatnik: windows
[22:01] <SiDi> mpalatnik, windows key :p
[22:01] <jonaskoelker> mpalatnik: windows key
[22:01] <jonaskoelker> ^_^
[22:02] <mpalatnik> nope
[22:02] <jonaskoelker> mpalatnik: ccsm->Negative, super n or super m
[22:02] <mpalatnik> gkot it
[22:02] <mpalatnik> thank god
[22:02] <SiDi> Oh by the way, does anyone know where i can find "Ubuntu" stickers to put them over my windows key ?
[22:02] <terrestre> someone using a speedtch modem and intrepid 64bit?
[22:02] <spatman_> Some one Running World of warcraft with wine? have problem ingame.
[22:03] <SiDi> spatman_, you're likely to find help on appdb.winehq.com if noone can help you here ;)
[22:03] <neil_d> karsten: thanks for the help.
[22:04] <Agent7629> spatman_: let me know if you find a good source for information - its pretty much one of the reasons my windows install is still around on this box :-\
[22:04] <feindbild> OMG ... ubuntu is incredibly messed up ... have fun everybody ^^
[22:04] <karsten> neil_d: I'm not sure.  ubuntu-desktop may be virtual and not actually remove anything.
[22:04] <emma> is modprobe aes-i586 called something else in Intrepid?
[22:04] <seclm193> anyone know of a network manager patch that fixed the problem with ubuntu 8.10 to connect to wpa enterprise
[22:05] <emma> If one would have done sudo modprobe aes-i586 in 7.10 what would they do in 8.10 ?
[22:05] <seclm193> emma, should be the same call that 8.04 uses
[22:06] <emma> when doing sudo modprobe aes-i586 from my intrepid live CD i'm told it's a fatal error and no such thing exists.
[22:06] <neil_d> karsten: it is a 'meta package', I purged anacron this should fix the problem.
[22:06] <gambi_dk> Games: when I play Nexuiz Im unable to change number (Rhythmbox) by clicking shortcut on keyboard.. also Im not able to "alt+tab" out of the game.. any ideas? (8.10)
[22:06] <Pirate_Hunter> how do i check if my system has JDK or J2SDK installed, basically which java version ive got?
[22:07] <gambi_dk> fyi.. cant pause/stop/play/volume ether
[22:07] <emma> Pirate_Hunter: try sudo updatedb and then slocate j2sdk ?
[22:07] <dublpaws> gambi_dk: you might try the SDL version
[22:07] <Andreica> Pirate_Hunter:try to type java in terminal, to know version type java --version
[22:08] <karsten> neil_d: Cool.
[22:09] <gambi_dk> dublpaws, SDL? where can I see if im using LDS or (what ever uim using now)
[22:09] <dublpaws> gambi_dk: there is also a [fullscreen/windowed] option that will get you back to the desktop manager.  activating the console will release the cursor.
[22:09] <Odd-rationale> emma: is it 32bit or 64 bit intrepid?
[22:09] <IrishDavid> hey, ive installed emacs but i cant find how to launch a command line version within X?
[22:09] <Brucee> whats the command to list all the processes? i try 'ps x' and 'ps ux'but how can i list all the processes?
[22:09] <Odd-rationale> Brucee: top?
[22:10] <Brucee> Odd-rationale what you mean? top?
[22:10] <Odd-rationale> Brucee: yeah. try top. it might work..
[22:10] <Brucee> ok
[22:11] <Brucee> Odd-rationale, thanks, learned a new command, but i still dont see the process that i am looking for
[22:11] <gambi_dk> dublpaws, build in to the game?
[22:11] <Odd-rationale> Brucee: or ps aux
[22:11] <Things> Could someone please tell me how to change the DNS server address on Ubuntu, on a wired connection ?
[22:12] <crtoe> Things: /etc/resolv.conf
[22:12] <helo> is there a live usb version of ubuntu?
[22:12] <erUSUL> Things: in System>Admin>Net should be a tab for dns settings
[22:12] <SuperQ> !live
[22:12] <emma> Odd-rationale: 64 bit.
[22:12] <helo> i don't have the ability to burn a cd, but i have a 4GB thumb drive
[22:13] <dublpaws> gambi_dk: I wouldn't use the version included with ubuntu anyways, try downloading from alientraps site.
[22:13] <cars__> helo, there should be instructions at pendrivelinux.com
[22:13] <CarlFK> where is a list of what windows software is included on the cd?
[22:13] <Brucee> i am trying to install ultimateircd, and i think its conflicting with ubuntu 8.04
[22:13] <IrishDavid> Brucee, there are shortcuts for top to rearrange by different qualifiers, default it by CPU usage, hit shift + M and it will arrange by memory usage
[22:13] <Odd-rationale> emma: try "aes-x86-64"
[22:13] <dublpaws> gambi_dk: that however probably won't solve your immediate problem, but will give you more options. probably.
[22:13] <emma> Odd-rationale: okay thanks.
[22:14] <CarlFK> or, what is the anti virus for windows that is on the cd
[22:14] <spatman_> Some one Running World of warcraft with wine? have problem ingame.
[22:14] <Odd-rationale> Things: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StaticDnsWithDhcp
[22:14] <cars__> cars__, you could make it either a persistent install (same as a regular hard drive install but on the USB drive) or you could install it to the flash drive so it runs like a  Live CD
[22:14] <gambi_dk> dublpaws, will check it out.. thx
[22:14] <tweeky> hello
[22:14] <Brucee> anyone has experience with ircds on ubuntu server?
[22:15] <cars__> helo, see my message above
[22:15] <tweeky> how can i tell ubuntu to not mount encrypted partitions automatically while booting?
[22:16] <helo> cars__: i don't have a cd... how do i install ubuntu to anything?
[22:16] <bn> does anyone know where the openoffice 3 base irc is at?
[22:16] <tweeky> it suddenly started doing that on my keyboard-less fileserver
[22:16] <Things> In reslov.conf, it only has # Generated by NetworkManager
[22:16] <khelll> is there a way to auto shut down the pc after a specific time??
[22:16] <tweeky> which obviously is not so handy
[22:18] <awharrier> hi, i have just installed ubuntu server along with the ubuntu-desktop package on a laptop, all was fine on the first bootup until i started adding GDM themes etc, now it wont boot the last message displayed is "Checking batter state.... [OK]" then nothing
[22:18] <awharrier> how can i repair my system?
[22:18] <cars__> helo, Let me check
[22:19] <LordMetroid> Anyone here has a new low-end dell laptop?
[22:19] <edd> hi, I'm getting a blank screen after login, anyone got any ideas how I can start Trshooting?
[22:19] <B3z3rk3r> LordMetroid, whats the prob?
[22:19] <LordMetroid> If you touch the touchpad at one side and touch it on the other side will the mouse pointer position itself in the middle for ya?
[22:19] <george_> hey what version flash player i have to download?
[22:19] <TJ-42> is there any way to open a second file in gedit in a *new* instance, rather than a new tab?
[22:19] <dangsos> okay so I am very new to ubuntu, I'm trying to teach myself some things about wireless connections and I'm trying to set up a program called kismet and aircrack at the moment, the problem is I don't even know how to open the program or execute the program after I download it. Can anyone help me? I've been searching the forums but everyone seems to assume that I know more than I know.
[22:19] <cars__> helo, try the install tutorials "using windows"
[22:20] <B3z3rk3r> LordMetroid, never heard of that happening
[22:20] <george_> hey what version flash player i have to download? for ubuntu 8.4
[22:20] <cars__> helo, like this one: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2008/11/04/live-ubuntu-810-usb-persistent-install-windows/
[22:20] <Odd-rationale> !flash | george_
[22:21] <bn>  #education.openoffice.org
[22:21] <sar4j> awharrier: it may be just X not starting
[22:21] <dangsos> cana nyone direct me to a tutorial on how to download third party software -> install it -> then execute the file?
[22:21] <awharrier> sar4j, i will try the fix x option in recovery mode
[22:21] <sar4j> try ctrl+alt+1 or ctrl+alt+2 or ctrl+alt+..6
[22:22] <dangsos> I know how to use synaptic package manager (i think) but I can't figure out how to execute the file
[22:22] <sar4j> and try startx
[22:22] <snip3r> hey guys, how do i get an user name for ubuntu forums?
[22:22] <B3z3rk3r> snip3r, you need to sign up at the forum page
[22:23] <RickZilla> btw, I ramped up the memory on my computer by a full gig...amazing how much faster and easier ubuntu runs now
[22:23] <dangsos> can anyone with good direction skills teach me a few basic things that I can't seem to find on my own about launching a program after I download it?
[22:24] <j2daosh> dag nabbit
[22:24] <prince_jammys> dangsos: did you download it from the internet ?
[22:24] <j2daosh> is there any music/chimes preloaded on kubuntu? i need to test the sound
[22:24] <dangsos> yes prince_jammys
[22:24] <sar4j> dangsos: what did you get
[22:24] <prince_jammys> dangsos: there are no directions at their web site? what package is it?
[22:25] <Gokul> after upgrading to 8.10 my ~/.bash_profile doesn;t get sourced when starting a new shell anymore
[22:25] <dangsos> the file is called kismet and also aircrack...I'm trying to teach myself some things about WEP encyption and wireless security
[22:25] <snip3r> b3z3rk3r: n where do i find the forum page, in the forums?
[22:25] <RickZilla> Any way to run Windows Live Writer on ubuntu?
[22:25] <prince_jammys> dangsos: those are available through apt
[22:25] <dangsos> apt = ?
[22:25] <Gokul> am I supposed to be exporting env variables elsewhere now?
[22:25] <prince_jammys> dangsos: synaptic, apt-get, etc. can be used to install them automatically
[22:25] <sar4j> dangsos: run that debfile again, it will have a tab that lists installed files
[22:25] <sar4j> look at them, may be you will get an idea
[22:26] <Gokul> anyone?
[22:26] <dangsos> I've used synaptic but I can't find where to execute the file
[22:26] <prince_jammys> dangsos: so you've already installed them using synaptic?
[22:26] <dangsos> I've read it should show up under >applications>internet>(myfilehere) but it's not there
[22:26] <Unibob|laptop> hmmm..lots of errors while upgrading to 8.10.  >.>
[22:26] <dangsos> correct prince_jammys
[22:27] <karsten> dangsos: apt is the package management system.  aptitude, apt-get, synaptic, etc., are front-ends to apt.
[22:27] <prince_jammys> dangsos: are they gui apps or command-line apps?
[22:27] <sar4j> dangsos: open that .deb file again, it will have a tab that lists installed files
[22:27] <dangsos> command line apps
[22:27]  * B3z3rk3r helps unibob look for the rollback button
[22:27] <dangsos> well i know aircrack is command line, i think kismet is gui
[22:27] <Unibob|laptop> it's installing now, might just be cause the needed files are in use maybe?
[22:28] <prince_jammys> dangsos: dpkg -L kismet   will show you the files it installed. the executables are probably in /usr/bin.  ie. /usr/bin/kismet
[22:28] <B1g0lCAQ> hello everyone
[22:28] <dangsos> I'll look, thanks
[22:28] <B1g0lCAQ> could anyone give me a little help with ubuntu, im a big time beginner
[22:28] <B3z3rk3r> B1g0lCAQ hey, what do u need help with?
[22:28] <george_> Please enter the installation path of the Mozilla, Netscape,
[22:28] <george_> or Opera browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla):  what i have to do?
[22:28] <B1g0lCAQ> can i pm you?
[22:28] <prince_jammys> dangsos: in any case, if the name of the executable is 'kismet' you can just type 'kismet' in a terminal to run it.
[22:28] <B3z3rk3r> B1g0lCAQ sure
[22:29] <Unibob|laptop> I'm an Ubuntu beginner, but been using linux for years, tho since it's a different distro...meh, I'm a newb.  :p
[22:29] <dangsos> what will be the .xxx for executable files in linux? like the .exe in windows?
[22:29] <prince_jammys> dangsos: nothing
[22:29] <dangsos> okay and how do i intiate a command like to execute?
[22:29] <erUSUL> dangsos: in unix there is no extension to executable files
[22:29] <prince_jammys> dangsos: executables in your path usually don't have an extension, though they can. extensions don't mean anything
[22:30] <karsten> dangsos: There isn't on.e
[22:30] <edd> hi, I'm getting a blank screen after login, anyone got any ideas what i can do?
[22:30] <karsten> dangsos: Linux identifies files by magic
[22:30] <erUSUL> dangsos: just type the excutable file name
[22:30] <prince_jammys> dangsos: simply type the name of the command. try 'kismet'
[22:30] <dangsos> ok
[22:30] <karsten> dangsos: There's a "magic number" at the start of a file, which tells the kernel what interpreter to user.  In addition, executables (binaries, scripts, or other) are given "execute" permission.  man chmod
[22:31] <awharrier> it appears to be the ati restricted drivers i installed that are causing issues with x, drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenDevice: open result is -1 (No such device)
[22:31] <karsten> dangsos: You can check a file's type with the "file" command. "file /bin/bash" for example.
[22:31] <karsten> dangsos: "man file" for more information.
[22:31] <awharrier> can i revert back to the standard display driver or what can i do to fix the ati one?
[22:32] <ubuntu_nub> hello
[22:32] <edd> ubuntu_nub: hi
[22:32] <wolfwalker> About installing to a flash drive.......... how do you boot from the flash drive if the computer has no USB boot?  Can you make a CD that sends the computer to boot from USB?
[22:32] <george_> ok idid
[22:32] <Agent7629> ubuntu_nub: hi
[22:32] <xutyl> hi
[22:33] <xutyl> finally i have ubuntu on
[22:33] <karsten> wolfwalker: That, or a boot floppy, or a bootloader on fixed disk that points to the USB partition.
[22:33] <xutyl> :D
[22:33] <erUSUL> !yay
[22:33] <wolfwalker> karsten cd will be fine.  How do you do it?
[22:34] <Korusef> What is the correct configuration for static wep in wpa_supplicant ? I'm able to connect to the AP with ap_scan=1, but if I try ap_scan=2 the wpa_supplicant doesn't associate.
[22:34] <ubuntu_nub> you might try installing ubuntu over a network, wolfwalker.
[22:35] <wolfwalker> ubuntu_nub the purpose is to install to flash drive, and then get my computer (which does not boot from flash according to BIOS) to boot from the flash drive on startup.
[22:35] <Korusef> I've tried various combinations of proto,group,pairwise values, but it never worked with ap_scan=2.
[22:35] <izinucs> am I visible?
[22:35] <pleaseHelp> hi.. need help.. currently booting from usb on a comp with no cd.. i have a blank hdd that i want to make dos bootable.. how would i do that?
[22:36] <wolfwalker> Yes izinucs
[22:36] <izinucs> wolfwalker: thanks.. works in one channel in irssi and not in another.. same server.
[22:37] <wolfwalker> karsten about that cd that sends the computer to boot from USB. How do you do that?
[22:37] <karsten> wolfwalker: Look up syslinux
[22:38] <wolfwalker> Holy monkey poop on a stick, what in the world did you just get me into?!?!
[22:38] <karsten> wolfwalker: :)
[22:39] <pleaseHelp> k... so i want to install window.. i have the iso on the usb and i extracted the files to the hdd.. how to i make the hdd bootable to run the windows setup?
[22:39] <ubuntu_nub> is there a particular reason gparted skips sda2-4 when partitioning for an ubuntu install?
[22:39] <Brucee> how do i know what application is using what port? or if a server is listening on a specific port?
[22:39] <pangloss> pleaseHelp: this is an ubuntu channel....