[12:44] <ABOMINIUS> some guide to make dbus recognize /dev/input[n]  as /dev/input/wacom, or somethingh else
[12:44] <ScorpKing> tried google?
[12:44] <ABOMINIUS> y
[12:45] <ABOMINIUS> too trash
[12:45] <ScorpKing> lol
[12:45] <sunilonln> is there an easy way for getting vga and s-video output working with intel 945gm integrated graphics? (i have an hp dv2000t)
[12:45] <ScorpKing> nite everyone!
[12:46] <ABOMINIUS> bb
[12:46] <bobesponja> hey all
[12:47] <bobesponja> is there a way to make the mouse cursor bigger?
[12:47] <chris|6S> use a bigger cursor theme?
[12:49] <bobesponja> chris|6S: can't find any big mouse theme
[12:50] <dappermuis> sunilonln, if you find a way let me know :)
[12:52] <chris|6S> bobesponja: there is a package called "big-cursor"
[12:56] <chris|6S> bobesponja: http://www.linux-tutorial.info/modules.php?name=Howto&pagename=X-Big-Cursor/X-Big-Cursor-3.html
[12:57] <cash> Hello maybe some body know ,where I can download MATLAB for linux ? I mean all sources except official site ))
[12:57] <|TroubleMaker|> what does the - in the /etc/syslog.conf files mean (eg mail.* -/var/log/mail.log)
[12:57] <bobesponja> chris|6S: thanx
[12:57] <sunilonln> dappermuis, does that mean it's not supported?
[12:58] <sunilonln> the docs at intellinuxgraphics.org mention support for the outputs, but i haven't been able to get any customized xorg.conf working
[12:58] <Hamra> hi all, lets wish i won't be bothering you any soon :P, just installed kubuntu, set my default boot to winxp so sisters wont mess up my linux, and downloading packages, everything is fine so far, really appreciate what you are doing here.
[12:59] <uga|away> cash: you should send an e-mail to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and ask them. sure they can help you out
[12:59] <cash> uga|away it is joke ?? )))
[12:59] <uga> cash: as much of a joke as your question
[01:01] <cash> uga =)) What the stupid in my question ? ) I m never by soft .))) It is no needed)
[01:01] <uga> cash: then install scilab or octave, or join #pirates
[01:02] <cash> k ) thnx
[01:02] <uga> this channel is meant to be for kubuntu support, not piracy support
[01:03] <cash> i will known that .for future
[01:04] <newsense07> i just installed beryl for fiesty and get a white screen and mouse pointer only, any suggestions?
[01:05] <uga> newsense07: what gfx card are you using?
[01:05] <uga> I had no trouble on my old box with an fx5200 and nvidia drivers
[01:06] <newsense07> old onboard ati
[01:07] <uga> uhm... I can't really tell about ati support
[01:07] <newsense07> is beryl gpu intensive ?
[01:07] <newsense07> older laptop
[01:07] <uga> well, my gfx card was quite slow, and still run fine, so not that intensive, I guess
[01:07] <uga> but it does need acceleration and big chunk of ram
[01:08] <newsense07> uga:could be it
[01:08] <newsense07> uga:not much ram here but i figured it would work
[01:08] <khaije1> newsense07: also on older laptops where video ram is shared it can be taxing
[01:09] <uga> well, when I said my gfx card was slow... I meant compared to current cards... 3 years ago it was okay ;)
[01:09] <newsense07> khaije1: should i dedicate less system memory to gpu ?
[01:09] <uga> newsense07: I don't think a white screen means lack of ram though
[01:09] <uga> rather lack of support
[01:09] <newsense07> uga: i didnt think so myself
[01:09] <khaije1> newsense07: i didn't know it's adjustable, you may want to get more if yr system doesn't have much
[01:10] <uga> beryl needs certain support from the driver in order to work
[01:10] <newsense07> ill google my vid card and beryl, see what i get
[01:10] <intelikey> can anyone answer me a riddle ?   why did installing *buntu-desktop make setting up the network take 39 seconds longer at boot time when,  a) none of my startup (init scripts) changed.   b) i use static ip on eth[0-2] .   c) nothing new is starting.     ???
[01:10] <newsense07> khaije1: i believe i can adjust shared mem in bios
[01:10] <khaije1> just type glxinfo :-)
[01:11] <sven_oostenbrink> Hi all, Im using kubuntu on a dell d620 laptop and I have wifi lan using ndis drivers.. Im using knetwork-manager to connect to an access point that has wep encryption, but it fails to connect and I don't know why. Could anybody assist me?
[01:11] <khaije1> newsense07: o ok, that makes sense, i've never had that option in any of my machines
[01:11] <dario> hello
[01:11] <newsense07> khaije1: gxinfo returns unable to open display
[01:11] <khaije1> wow, thats weird
[01:12] <uga> newsense07: run it with the same user that started the desktop
[01:12] <uga> normal user, not root
[01:12] <intelikey> any guesses ?
[01:12] <jcs7778> Is there a way to make my few gnome apps like firefox use the kde open save as dialogue insted of defaulting to nautilus?
[01:13] <dario> ati 3d driver no work
[01:13] <Biovore> !ati
[01:13] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:13] <uga> intelikey: that's weird. What are you comparing to? (previous to *buntu desktop, I mean)
[01:13] <intelikey> uga yeah previous to installing *buntu-desktop
[01:14] <newsense07> uga: glxinfo still returns the same output as normal user or with superuser rights
[01:14] <uga> intelikey: what did you have before that =)
[01:14] <intelikey> same thing i have with that... ?
[01:14] <intelikey> linux
[01:15] <uga> intelikey: what linux distro. My understanding is you just installed a kubuntu/ubuntu desktop. But based from where
[01:15] <uga> what CD did you install
[01:15] <intelikey> uga no.
[01:15] <newsense07> uga: nm i just figured out why glxinfo was returning no screens found, i was running it from a different terminal than the xserver is running on
[01:16] <intelikey> you misunderstand.    i only installed the meta packages "*buntu-desktop"  onto the running linux system
[01:16] <newsense07> uga: what am i looking for?
[01:16] <uga> newsense07: no idea. It wasn't me that asked for glxinfo ;)
[01:16] <newsense07> uga:sorry
[01:16] <xluchox> I have a question related to wifi
[01:16] <newsense07> khaije1:what am i looking for in the output of glxinfo?
[01:17] <intelikey> so anyone got a clue what installing *buntu-desktop might change that would make "setting up the network"  take so much longer ?
[01:17] <xluchox> Im using wifi from linux and I think it has less range
[01:17] <uga> intelikey: those are installed by default with any ubuntu/kubuntu CD
[01:17] <xluchox> is that possible?
[01:17] <uga> intelikey: that's why I'm asking what you installed first
[01:18] <khaije1> newsense07: i don't remember specificly, but there is info in there that will tell you if yr gfx card has hw accel (which is needed for beryl)
[01:18] <khaije1> newsense07: actually there are lots of great tutorials that can give you a step by step, have you checked any out?
[01:18] <xluchox> when I get far nfrom the source I lose the connection very quickly
[01:19] <intelikey> uga no you are asking because you don't believe what i say,  you think you know something about my system that i don't know.    you do not.   i have ubuntu linux installed,   everything setup the way i want.   then added *ubuntu-desktop
[01:19] <newsense07> khaije1: i was just told i cant use beryl with xgl i should use compiz /
[01:19] <khaije1> newsense07: ha! sorry, i used the wrong term, when i set mine up it was still called beryl
[01:19] <intelikey> adding *buntu-desktop   made the one process of "setting up the network" at boot time take much longer.
[01:20] <khaije1> newsense07: you are using fiesty?
[01:20] <uga> intelikey: if I thought I knew what your system was, I wouldnt' be asking. I'm just asking what stfuf you installed first. Any ubuntu CD installs a desktop by default. Either kubuntu desktop or ubuntu desktop or edubuntu desktop or *desktop
[01:20] <khaije1> if so you already have aiglx, so you just need to install compiz
[01:20] <intelikey> uga not applicable.
[01:21] <rajkalyan> * rajkalyan?
[01:21] <uga> intelikey: you won't get answers if you don't answer questions. Sorry, but you sure are grown up enough to understand that
[01:22] <uga> rajkalyan: cookies disabled here ;)
[01:22] <rajkalyan> LOL
[01:22] <rajkalyan> :
[01:22] <rajkalyan> :D
[01:22] <intelikey> uga i have answered you.   there was no damned *buntu-desktop installed.   i suppose you never even heard of "server install"    please drop it now.
[01:22] <rajkalyan> ooooooooooooo
[01:22] <rajkalyan> u just got dissed
[01:22] <rajkalyan> LOL
[01:22] <uga> intelikey: sure, my question was "what CD did you install first, then"
[01:22] <uga> and you still haven't answered
[01:23] <uga> okay, now... server install, that's what I wanted to know
[01:23] <uga> intelikey: now, did you notice any kernel upgrades... by ... any chance?
[01:23] <uga> it could be a bug in the kernel module or dhclient
[01:23] <intelikey> because that question is not applicable to this issue.   i installed from the hoary install cd   but that is not applacable   and has nothing to do with this.
[01:24] <uga> oh it does, if the upgrade to the desktop upgraded kernels
[01:24] <uga> or if it enabled the network manager
[01:24] <intelikey> i didn't upgrade to.   ok you get ignored.
[01:24] <uga> or if it upgraded the dhcp client
[01:24] <uga> intelikey: thank you
[01:24] <uga> I feel better =)
[01:25] <intelikey> talk about running circles....  man....
[01:25] <khaije1> wow uga you pissed off intelikey
[01:25] <uga> khaije1: just by responding him =)
[01:25] <khaije1> uhm...
[01:25] <uga> I proposed 3 different possible issues
[01:25] <uga> sure the desktop got nothing to do with his bootup times
[01:25] <uga> everyone knows that, ... except him ;)
[01:26] <uga> s/bootup times/network bootup times
[01:26] <intelikey> anyone else have a thought on this.  i'm still interested in input.    and i'll try to not cause a seen
[01:26] <niwatix> Bonjour tout le monde ;)
[01:26] <khaije1> intelikey: what is the issue?
[01:26] <intelikey> !fr | NiwatiX
[01:26] <ubotu> NiwatiX: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:26] <NiwatiX> ah sry
[01:26] <NiwatiX> haha
[01:27] <intelikey> khaije1 adding   *buntu-desktop   made the    'setting up the network'   at boot take  a lot longer.
[01:29] <intelikey> i mean what was maybe 2 seconds  now takes 41 seconds.    just that one script.   and the script didn't change.   i thought maybe  /etc/network/interfaces had  but alas  it hasn't either.     and i don't use dhcp  it's all static.
[01:30] <intelikey> hmmmm could be something in /etc/defaults/  maybe ???  i'll rm it and see.
[01:32] <Biovore> intelikey: probably avhi has something to do with that..
[01:32] <intelikey> avhi ???
[01:32] <intelikey> is that an app ?
[01:32] <uga> Biovore: the mDNS client can be that slow?
[01:32] <intelikey> !find avhi
[01:32] <ubotu> Package/file avhi does not exist in feisty
[01:32] <Biovore> It does weird stuff on my box here..
[01:32] <Biovore> I had to remove it..
[01:33] <Biovore> avhi-deamon I think is the package name
[01:33] <intelikey> av[tab]   no executables....
[01:33] <uga> Biovore: tell him avahi instead ;)
[01:33] <uga> he's got me on ignore :P
[01:34] <Biovore> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=avahi&searchon=names&subword=1&version=feisty&release=all
[01:35] <Biovore> basicly it manages you network interface for you..  I my case.. it made wrong deceissions all the time..
[01:35] <Biovore> bascily I replaced it with a small perl script..
[01:35] <intelikey> ah   powerpc.   this isn't a mac
[01:36] <Biovore> i386,amd64,ppc
[01:36] <Biovore> its on all
[01:36] <intelikey> package doesn't exist in dapper anyway.
[01:37] <Biovore> oh.. your on dapper.
[01:37] <Biovore> ?
[01:37] <uga> intelikey: had you told us before that you're still running dapper... but yeah, respond "not applicable" and get people thinking for ages
[01:37] <intelikey> have been sense two months before it released
[01:37] <Biovore> haha.. differrent problem then..
[01:37] <intelikey> yeah.
[01:38] <Biovore> all my dapper boxes are static ips.. so I not sure..
[01:38] <Biovore> aw he left..
[01:38] <umarzuki> hi
[01:39] <Biovore> oO
[01:39] <uga> Biovore: you are surprised? didn't you see how he answered to all my questions up there, when I queried abou what he had installed?
[01:40] <Biovore> nope.. only paying 1/2 attention atm
[01:40] <uga> nice... ircing as root =)
[01:40] <intelikey> it's not in /etc/default/      hmmm   i have no idea why it's taking longer.
[01:40] <dario> !ati
[01:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:40] <intelikey> uga again you show your   assumed inteligance.   i'm not root.  that's just a mask.
[01:41] <uga> fine with me
[01:41] <uga> intelikey: you just had people turning around without telling them you were running dapper. Had you answered to my first question of what you had installed, it wouldn't have happenned
[01:41] <Biovore> intelikey: I am guessing your using dhcp and its taking longer then expected?
[01:41] <uga> Biovore: static dns
[01:42] <uga> s/dns/ip
[01:42] <rajkalyan> thats my PSP
[01:42] <rajkalyan> jk
[01:42] <Biovore> static ip shouldn't take any time at all..  My dapper box doesn't
[01:47] <khaije1> my current isp setup is seriously lacking
[01:48] <intelikey> and there is the infernal reseting modem to deal with also...
[01:48] <uga> khaije1: like most of them, unfortunately
[01:49] <intelikey> Biovore if you said anything after the    i suppose dhcp   statement   i missed.
[01:50] <Biovore> nothing really..  my dapper box's run static ips
[01:50] <intelikey> k
[01:52] <intelikey> i wonder if some lib that is read has a dummy package that i was using before and now it's the full lib      i know that's reaching   but something has to have changed....
[01:52] <intelikey> s/is read/is read by ifup or ifconfig maybe/
[01:53] <Biovore> could be..  dhcp client change maybe?
[01:53] <tekteen> hi
[01:53] <tekteen> everyone
[01:53] <intelikey> again if i used dhcp.....    but i don't.
[01:53] <Biovore> hmm..  My dapper boxes are statics and they don't have any problems here..
[01:54] <intelikey> it's not really a problem   just makes boot up take twice as long.    and these boxes get power off when not in use.
[01:54] <tekteen> Can anyone help me with a bash script?
[01:54] <intelikey> sure
[01:55] <intelikey> tekteen what ya need ?
[01:55] <tekteen> I need it to read in files
[01:55] <tekteen> one at a time (for)
[01:55] <tekteen> The files have spaces
[01:55] <tekteen> It gives me each word
[01:55] <tekteen> not file
[01:56] <tekteen> I even tried using sed to put quotes around each file
[01:56] <tekteen> ???
[01:56] <intelikey> find /basedir/ -type f -exec echo '{}' ;\ | while read Q ;do something with $Q ;done
[01:57] <intelikey> can work with a varable as well as read.
[01:57] <tekteen> thanks
[01:57] <pillowpants> has anyone sucessfully been able to get flash working for firefox?
[01:57] <intelikey> np
[01:57] <pillowpants> amd64
[01:57] <tekteen> yes
[01:57] <ardchoille> Is the konqueror web browser not able to load gmail?
[01:58] <tekteen> sorry not amd 64
[01:58] <pillowpants> tekteen : oh
[01:58] <tekteen> have you tried from the repo
[01:58] <tekteen> ?
[01:58] <intelikey> ardchoille i have heard that you need to have it identify as mozilla     or something like that.
[01:58] <pillowpants> tekteen : yeah, but nothing really does the job
[01:58] <ardchoille> pillowpants: I have friends who have gotten flash working in firefox on amd64 but it takes a lot of work
[01:58] <khaije1> pillowpants: google for nspluginwrapper
[01:59] <ardchoille> intelikey: Ah, I'll try that.
[01:59] <khaije1> pillowpants: worked for me
[01:59] <pillowpants> khaije1 : yeah, ive head of that
[01:59] <pillowpants> tried it before, but with no sucess
[01:59] <pillowpants> ill give it a go again
[01:59] <uga> ardchoille: it should work fine with current version of konqueror and gmail. What's happenning?
[01:59] <pillowpants> does anyone know if adobe will be releasing a 64 bit plugin anytime soon?
[02:00] <uga> pillowpants: they've always been slow at supporting linux... =(
[02:00] <ardchoille> uga: It's reporting that ActiveX controls are not enabled.
[02:00] <uga> active x? has gmail gone nuts? =)
[02:00] <ardchoille> uga: That's what the web page said. Surprised me too.
[02:00] <uga> ardchoille: are you faking client browser ID?
[02:00] <squidlick> is there anyway to install flash,java, and all that on konquerer??
[02:01] <pillowpants> does nspluginwrapper require using 32-bit firefox?
[02:01] <pillowpants> or just the libraries for it
[02:01] <uga> ardchoille: tools->change browser identification->default identification
[02:01] <khaije1> pillowpants: none of the above
[02:01] <uga> works fine for me, right now
[02:01] <intelikey> !info flashplayer-nonfree | squidlick
[02:01] <ubotu> squidlick: Package flashplayer-nonfree does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:01] <intelikey> ooops.
[02:01] <intelikey> i misnamed it i guess.   but search for the first word.
[02:02] <squidlick> !info flashplayer
[02:02] <intelikey> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[02:02] <ubotu> Package flashplayer does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:02] <khaije1> pillowpants: it's all 64bit it just translates the netscape plugin api from 32 to 64, it's great
[02:02] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>.0ubuntu1~7.04.1 (feisty), package size 15 kB, installed size 108 kB (Only available for i386)
[02:02] <intelikey> there  ya go  ^
[02:02] <pillowpants> khaije1 : ill try it
[02:02] <pillowpants> thanks
[02:02] <squidlick> <- sad
[02:03] <squidlick> ty though intelikey
[02:03] <ardchoille> uga: Got it, thanks.
[02:03] <intelikey> ?
[02:03] <intelikey> !info flashplugin-nonfree | squidlick
[02:03] <ubotu> squidlick: flashplugin-nonfree: Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>.0ubuntu1~7.04.1 (feisty), package size 15 kB, installed size 108 kB (Only available for i386)
[02:04] <khaije1> pillowpants: it's the next best thing to 64bit flash (which doesn't exist), making it the best thing :-)
[02:07] <intelikey> reality; the next best thing to vertual reality...
[02:11] <ardchoille> Wow, I like that Change Browser Identification menu item :)  Now I can access my bank in konqueror :)
[02:11] <intelikey> hmmm that's not it either...     it's the little things that tic ya off.   ya know.
[02:11] <uga> khaije1: is there an official site for the nspluginwrapper sources?
[02:12] <uga> khaije1: or do I need to dig for debian sources
[02:13] <Zombine> !ntfs
[02:13] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[02:15] <rustalot> hey guys, do you know how well flash works on 64-bit Gutsy?
[02:15] <uga> heh, funny that, now that windows is trying to switch over to a new FS, linux is getting a stable ntfs rw access ;)
[02:15] <daSkreech> !flash64
[02:15] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[02:15] <uga> rustalot: I tried a gutsy upgrade,... and no matter how much I tried, the thing wouldn't even boot, here
[02:15] <daSkreech> !gutsy | rustalot
[02:15] <ubotu> rustalot: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[02:17] <rustalot> uga: well, I'm using gutsy32 now, because feisty doesn't work on my laptop
[02:17] <rustalot> anyways, it's offtopic
[02:17] <uga> okay, I was just warning you ;)
[02:18] <daSkreech> rustalot: #ubuntu+1 should give you a better idea how it is currently
[02:18] <uga> daSkreech: people there weren't very responsive when I asked...
[02:19] <daSkreech> uga: Yeah busy look for extinguishers for their computers >_<
[02:19] <uga> lol
[02:30] <rustalot> hey, do you guys know anything about samba?
[02:30] <atlfalcons866> how do install gusty gibbon
[02:31] <rustalot> !gutsy
[02:31] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[02:35] <intelikey> testing  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39655
[02:36] <intelikey> may have issues with unicode and the  chat
[02:38] <daSkreech> intelikey: What's that do?
[02:39] <atlfalcons866> !gutsy
[02:39] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[02:39] <intelikey> just display info.
[02:40] <daSkreech> That would be the \260 ?
[02:40] <intelikey> yes the   `printf "\260"`
[02:43] <intelikey>   heh   #
[02:48] <intelikey> well shoot.  even though i have   *buntu-desktop installed it seems i dont have ubuntu-base installed    no nano....  //
[02:48] <stdin> how can you live without nano??
[02:49] <daSkreech> Use pico :)
[02:49] <intelikey> simple as mc
[02:49] <stdin> nano is pico, or as intelikey would say "nano == pico == nano"
[02:49] <intelikey> daSkreech heh without nano you have no pico either  pico is a symlink to nano
[02:49] <intelikey> fooled ya.  said something different    :)
[02:50] <uga|away> strange... why is it that in two continous installs of the same CD, one of them had ia32 libs installed, yet the other one didn't?
[02:50] <uga|away> and thus I had 32bit apps not working
[02:51] <intelikey> something you chose ?     or maybe just a  'ubiquity'  thang !
[02:52] <uga> there's basically no options during the kubuntu install, other than the mirror
[02:52] <intelikey> yeah  sux don't it.
[02:52] <uga> the only difference is on one of the installs I only formatted the / partition. It doesn't make much senses
[02:53] <intelikey> idk.
[02:53] <intelikey> i don't even use partitions any more.
[02:53] <daSkreech> not even one?
[02:53] <intelikey> nope\
[02:54] <uga> not even swap?
[02:54] <yoshibot> how does that even work
[02:54] <uga> yoshibot: well, one partition is needed... sda1 or so ;)
[02:54] <intelikey> yoshibot you don't mount partitions you mount file systems.   i made a file system on the hd
[02:54] <Biovore> you don't need  a swap partition
[02:54] <uga> at least _one_ =)
[02:55] <intelikey> uga  i have no partition   none.
[02:55] <Biovore> it can be a swap file
[02:55] <uga> intelikey: so you boot off the net?
[02:55] <uga> Biovore: right
[02:55] <intelikey> no  i use lilo
[02:55] <Biovore> hehe
[02:55] <yoshibot> so he just has everything on the hard drive raw with no partition table?
[02:55] <Biovore> partitions are a PC thing..
[02:55] <Biovore> some systems don't use partitions on there..
[02:55] <intelikey> yoshibot correct.
[02:56] <yoshibot> that is both the craziest and the coolest thing I've heard of
[02:56] <Biovore> nonthing about linux says you have to have a parition on your storage media..
[02:56] <intelikey> yoshibot ty    lol
[02:56] <uga> Biovore: yup, as far as you can get lilo to boot from there =)
[02:56] <intelikey> lilo has no probelm   grub on the other hand can't do it.
[02:57] <Biovore> it would be a chainload for grub
[02:57] <Biovore> kinda tricky
[02:57] <intelikey> lilo reads a literal address.   "blocks"    grub premounts a partition,   and seeing that i have no partition grub can't be used.
[02:58] <intelikey> i tried seven ways to sunday to make grub work.   it's just too weak.
[02:59] <uga> uhm... there's a bug in the latest pack of clamav-base
[02:59] <uga> it tries to chown the directory /var/run/clamav
[02:59] <uga> without trying to create it first if it doesn't exist ;)
[02:59] <intelikey> not running it as root are you ?
[02:59] <Biovore> well lilo is simplistic for that kind of stuff.. just load some data at some offset and then executes it..
[02:59] <intelikey> can't run clamav as root   it wont work.
[03:00] <uga> intelikey: a bug in the installer, not in the app
[03:00] <uga> in the deb file
[03:00] <uga> Setting up clamav-base (0.90.2-0ubuntu1.4) ...
[03:00] <uga> chown: cannot access `/var/run/clamav': No such file or directory
[03:01] <uga> ^^^ it will work if a previous version of clamav has been installed, but obviously not if it's first time
[03:01] <intelikey> Biovore correct   where as  grub is an   OS   and it has to then read the fs the kernel is on,   they simply forgot to allow for mounting things that bios doesn't recognize.      basically if bios cant boot it grub can't either.
[03:01] <uga> so you just manually create the dir and the setup goes just fine
[03:01] <bigdave> Hi all!  Does anybody know how to prevent "Remote Share" icons from being placed on the desktop (KDE) for CIFS shares mounted in /etc/fstab?
[03:02] <savetheWorld> Hi all, anyone know what the name of the apt packages are for Samba/CIFS and sshd?
[03:02] <intelikey> uga yeah  the dpkg scripts are not very well written    all that one needed was a    mkdir -p /var/run/clamav    line before it chowned it and  bingo  it works....
[03:03] <intelikey> first year bash monkey should know that....
[03:03] <stdin> savetheWorld: samba is in the "samba" package, and sshd is in "openssh-server"
[03:03] <intelikey> savetheWorld   samba <something and>  ssh
[03:04] <savetheWorld> thanks you gentlemen!
[03:04] <intelikey> idk about the cifs
[03:04] <savetheWorld> |thanks you"?  stupid fingers... :-)
[03:05] <stdin> cifs is an extension of smb, all part of samba
[03:05] <ardchoille> savetheWorld: It's not you, it's your keyboard.. you don't have the "do what I want not what I said" plugin installed ;)
[03:05] <bigdave> savetheWorld: I believe sshd is in "openssl" and cifs is in "smbfs" and/or "smbclient"
[03:05] <intelikey> ah ok.  then    samba ssh      or as stdin put it openssh-server
[03:06] <intelikey> ardchoille :)
[03:06] <waylandbill> intelikey: do you ever sleep? :)
[03:06] <ardchoille> waylandbill: No
[03:06] <waylandbill> I thought so
[03:06] <savetheWorld> ok, thank you.
[03:06] <intelikey> err no wait.
[03:07] <intelikey>  :)
[03:07] <savetheWorld> ardchoille: it is me, I almost did it again. :-)
[03:07] <ardchoille> savetheWorld: lol
[03:07] <waylandbill> is there a difference? ;)
[03:07] <ardchoille> waylandbill: No
[03:08] <waylandbill> 21:00 or 03:00.. it seems like intelikey is always on
[03:08] <intelikey> [ ubuntu-base -o ! ubuntu-base ]
[03:09] <intelikey> ed !
[03:09] <intelikey> ed is not even installed....
[03:09] <bigdave> Nobody has a clue re: "Remote Share" icons on the desktop????
[03:09] <uga> bigdave: the thing is I don't have smb mounted drives over ehre
[03:10] <uga> bigdave: what you want is just to change the icon?
[03:10] <uga> so that it looks like any other normal folder?
[03:10] <intelikey> can you believe this    with *buntu-desktop installed    http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39656
[03:10] <uga> or just avoiding them to appear on the desktop
[03:11] <bigdave> I wanted to NOT have them show up on the desktop at all.  I have them mounted via /etc/fstab.  I'd like them accessed via the file system -- not via an icon shortcut to a smb:// link
[03:11] <bigdave> on the desktop
[03:11] <uga> there's an option on what media it should show... iirc
[03:11] <uga> a sec
[03:11] <intelikey> bigdave  right click the desktop and select the show device icons tab   choose what you want.
[03:12] <intelikey> oh   in the configure desktop  ^
[03:12] <uga> bigdave: there it is
[03:12] <uga> bigdave: kcontrol->desktop->behavior
[03:12] <uga> bigdave: device icons->show device icons:
[03:12] <uga> and unselect samba shares
[03:13] <uga> s/unselect/deselect
[03:13] <intelikey> kcontrol or right click the desktop or system settings   all lead to the same page
[03:14] <uga> intelikey: maybe in dapper
[03:14] <intelikey> kde + right click everything  == kcontrol
[03:14] <uga> it shows part of kcotrol kcms, right
[03:14] <uga> but not all
[03:14] <bigdave> AWESOME!  You ROCK!  Now are those settings per user or are they global to KDE?
[03:15] <intelikey> true.  i stand corrected.  i was inprecise on that one.   thank you.
[03:16] <intelikey> bigdave user
[03:16] <uga> bigdave: they are per user basis. I guess you could hack the defaults so that they get copied to .kde, thugh
[03:17] <intelikey> bigdave basicly if it doesn't ask for your password it's local.
[03:17] <faires> Hi, I'm trying to watch a DVD area 4, and Kaffeine says I cannot doing so
[03:17] <bigdave> uga / intelikey: Alrighty!  Thanks a LOT!
[03:17] <faires> (But I'm in area 4... :) )
[03:17] <jr_> How do I remove the limit to when my screen goes blank?
[03:17] <faires> Is there anything I should apt-get in order to it work properly?
[03:17] <intelikey> jr_ bios
[03:18] <jr_> From within Kubuntu?
[03:18] <faires> Kaffeine says the DVD is encrypted
[03:18] <Biovore> faires: well since your outside the US.. you can get libdecss
[03:19] <intelikey> jr_ that is normally set in bios apm apci      if you are only talking about the screensaver   right click the desktop and configure it.
[03:19] <uga> Biovore: he could, even if he were inside the US ;)
[03:19] <Biovore> well technical decss violates the DMCA
[03:19] <jr_> intelikey: I don't have the screensaver configured
[03:19] <faires> Biovore: thanks, I'll try
[03:20] <intelikey> jr_ there is also kde power management       you can look into that.  but i make no promice that it will over ride the bios setting.
[03:20] <stdin> jr_: give "xset s off" a go, and remove the "DPMS" part from xorg.conf
[03:21] <jr_> "xset s off" a command?
[03:21] <faires> Biovore: are you sure libdecss is the package name?
[03:21] <stdin> jr_: yes
[03:21] <faires> Adept is not finding it...
[03:21] <intelikey> stdin that works too,  on newer bios'    don't know what he has to work with tho...  </shrugs>
[03:22] <jr_> Sysinfo for 'jr-laptop': Linux 2.6.20-16-generic running KDE 3.5.7, CPU<EMAIL_ADDRESS>at 1729 MHz (3461 bogomips), , RAM: 1941/2018MB, 116 proc's, 1.24h up
[03:22] <stdin> faires, Biovore: it's "libdvdcss" not "libdcss"
[03:22] <intelikey> should be new enough
[03:22] <stdin> faires: just do "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh" to install it
[03:24] <intelikey> ABOMINIUS what language ?
[03:24] <faires> stdin: Thanks, I'm trying it...
[03:25] <intelikey> ABOMINIUS python ?
[03:25] <ABOMINIUS> guess
[03:25] <hydrogen> thats obviously not python
[03:25] <ABOMINIUS> php script
[03:25] <stdin> mmk
[03:25] <faires> stdin: Biovore: thanks a lot, it worked properly...
[03:25] <intelikey> it's obviously not shell script either   :)
[03:26] <hydrogen> could be perl I think
[03:26] <hydrogen> but then again
[03:26] <faires> Now I can watch "An inconvenient truth"... ;)
[03:26] <hydrogen> almost anything could be perl
[03:26] <intelikey> php   hmmmm ok.
[03:26] <Zombine> hydrogen:  But why would you?
[03:26] <hydrogen> %)#@()#()$@)()(;.\& <- prints out the first six books of the bible in perl
[03:27] <intelikey> hydrogen well i first thought perl  but then the echo command through a wrench in that idea
[03:27] <Zombine> Furthermore, does anyone know how to turn off all KDE's damn annoying sounds?
[03:27] <dezordia> Hi Sirs!
[03:27] <intelikey> Zombine heh yeah   kcontrol
[03:28] <intelikey> breaking glass are we Zombine ?
[03:28] <stdin> or System Settings > Notifications
[03:29] <Zombine> intelikey: More or less :D
[03:29] <intelikey> not by choice tho
[03:30] <Zombine> No speakers?  No driver?  No card?
[03:30] <intelikey> none of the above.
[03:30] <Zombine> Just told it to shut its damn mouth?
[03:30] <intelikey> issue #42
[03:30] <dezordia> anybody has a Eric4 .deb for kubuntu ? or a URL for source.lists ?
[03:31] <Zombine> intelikey: Which is....?
[03:31] <intelikey> no it talks,  just so quiet you need to hold the speekers to your ear to hear them
[03:31] <intelikey> as far as i can tell it's not repairable within dapper.
[03:32] <Zombine> oh.  I noticed my box has quieter sound that it does on XP, but I haven't installed any drivers...
[03:32] <Zombine> Pick a new distro?
[03:32] <dezordia> +_+
[03:32] <Biovore> Zombine: try tunning up the sound levels in the mixer..  might need to turn up some odd ball ones..
[03:33] <dezordia> anybody has a Eric4 .deb for kubuntu ? or a URL for source.lists to install it ?
[03:33] <Zombine> Biovore: Will try.  Thanks
[03:33] <intelikey> thought about it.   but if i do that i need to add an hd.  this one has some archived stuff i don't want to loose.
[03:33] <Zombine> intelikey: You can't install one over another without a new format each time?
[03:33] <Zombine> also box.com
[03:34] <intelikey> Zombine   box.com ???
[03:34] <intelikey> heh
[03:34] <intelikey> :)
[03:34] <Zombine> intelikey: It's an online storage host.  Like photobucket I guess but for whatever
[03:35] <dezordia> anybody has a ideia?
[03:35] <intelikey> yeah for what ever.     cardboard or plastic ?    lol
[03:35] <Zombine> lol
[03:36] <intelikey> dezordia ! i
[03:36] <dezordia> intelikey: Hi! =D
[03:36] <intelikey> sorry shell code for    not me
[03:37] <intelikey>              ! blah         not whatever
[03:37] <dezordia> intelikey: You know how i install eric4 on kubuntu ?
[03:37] <Zombine> dezordia: sudo apt-get install eric4?
[03:37] <rrbiz> some1 know about intel pentium M scaling why it's not ?
[03:37] <intelikey> dezordia that was the answer    no.   ! i    or  not me.
[03:38] <dezordia> no has a eric4 package, only eric3 package. =(
[03:39] <Zombine> dezordia: Actually, if it isn't in the repositories for Synaptic, you can download it from eric's website and install it using the install command from your hdd
[03:39] <dezordia> on official source.list
[03:39] <intelikey> !b-e | dezordia you can build the source, but you need to look here
[03:39] <ubotu> dezordia you can build the source, but you need to look here: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:41] <dezordia> Zombine: This is not the problem. . . The problem is with the QScintilla2...
[03:42] <dezordia> This is dont work. =(
[03:42] <Zombine> dezordia: Okay you are now over my head xD.  But someone here is bound to be smarter than I am
[03:42] <kloplop> I know this is an odd question, but how can I have a background music while on my login screen, I bet edited sources can do it, but that's beyond me
[03:43] <Zombine> kloplop aside from starting a player and switching users?  No idea :P
[03:43] <dezordia> I come here imagine anybody was make a package from the eric4.
[03:44] <intelikey> kloplop have kdm call a script
[03:45] <kloplop> yeah, well I got this awsomly annoying song that will annoy the heck out of anyone but me, and I want it to play every time I boot up
[03:45] <Zombine> How would I change my default music player?
[03:45] <intelikey> kloplop in the /etc/kde3/kdm/kdm.conf  i think you can specify   errrr not sure.   maybe i better check.
[03:45] <kloplop> well, this is an mp3, so can the system play it by itself?
[03:46] <intelikey> kloplop on only on boot   that's easy.   call it from  /etc/rc.local
[03:46] <dezordia> Well, i will make the package eric4 for kubuntu. But not now. . . in a few days!
[03:46] <kloplop> k just a sec
[03:46] <dezordia> Tks guys! c'ya! o/
[03:47] <intelikey> kloplop make it a .ogg and sox can   well it can mp3 also if you tell it the decoder to use   but .ogg is the easy way.
[03:47] <kloplop> ok, just a moment though I need to get to the conf file anyway
[03:47] <intelikey> install sox     edit /etc/rc.local   adding a line   play /path/to/file.ogg
[03:48] <kloplop> ok :)
[03:49] <intelikey> note that only root will be able to kill that.   i will play until it ends.  or you sudo killall sox
[03:49] <kloplop> intelikey, I am installing cox right now
[03:49] <kloplop> sox
[03:49] <intelikey> sox
[03:49] <intelikey> yeah.
[03:49] <kloplop> how would I convert an mp3 to ogg in linux anyway?
[03:50] <hydrogen> lame -d file.mp3 oggenc file.wav
[03:50] <intelikey> several ways.  easiest i know of is  audacity
[03:50] <hydrogen> or
[03:50] <hydrogen> mp32ogg
[03:50] <hydrogen> oddly enough :)(
[03:50] <intelikey> oh yeah that.  mp32ogg   forgot that one.
[03:50] <kloplop> yeah well just wait, I gota copy it off my windows hardrive on sda2
[03:50] <hydrogen> audacity is kind of like using latex to write an email
[03:51] <hydrogen> sure it does the job.. but is it really worth it?
[03:52] <intelikey> hydrogen if you have "keyphobia"  it is...  :)
[03:52] <jhutchins> There's probably an mp3toogg wrapper taht does it.
[03:52] <hydrogen> like `mp32ogg`
[03:52] <hydrogen> you mean?
[03:52] <hydrogen> (which I meantioned all of two minutes ago)
[03:52] <uga> how about getting your desktops up to date and installing gui apps? =)
[03:52] <uga> soundkonverter, for example :P
[03:53] <hydrogen> why use a gui app to do something that is a whole lot easier on the command line?
[03:53] <intelikey> hey maybe there is a tool in the ogg-utils package that can do that,,,   like  mp32ogg   or something ?
[03:53] <intelikey> vorbis-utils  even
[03:53] <uga> if audacity is to sound encoding what latex is to e-mailing, then mpg32ogg is to encoding what telnet is to e-mailing ;)
[03:53] <intelikey> not telnet   fetchmail.
[03:54] <hydrogen> cd /music/mp3; find . -name \*.mp3 -exec mp32ogg {} +
[03:54] <hydrogen> no
[03:54] <intelikey> better qoute that    '{}'
[03:54] <hydrogen> fetchmail is one way :)
[03:54] <intelikey> might have spaces in the file name.
[03:54] <yoshibot> Anyone here know how to get Kubuntu to use two heads?
[03:55] <intelikey> hydrogen you said "sending an email"  ok   sendmail   my bad.
[03:55] <kloplop> I am converting the mp3 to ogg right now with lame
[03:55] <hydrogen> doesn't matter about spaces in the name
[03:55] <hydrogen> in theory
[03:55] <hydrogen> though I suppose if mp32ogg didn't handle it
[03:55] <intelikey> also has to end in   \;
[03:55] <hydrogen> no
[03:55] <kloplop> just put _
[03:55] <hydrogen> I intentionally did \;
[03:55] <uga> apt-get install sounkonverter, guys ;)
[03:55] <hydrogen> err
[03:56] <hydrogen> I intentionally did +
[03:56] <hydrogen> though it may not work with mp32ogg either :)
[03:56] <hydrogen> never tried
[03:56] <hydrogen> + passes as many matches as it can on one command line
[03:56] <hydrogen> rather than a new process for each match
[03:57] <uga> kloplop: btw, I presume you got no access to the original sources? you are losing quality twice
[03:57] <intelikey> hydrogen and you intentionally did that with an incoder ???
[03:57] <uga> hydrogen: dno't forget quality settings
[03:57] <hydrogen> intelikey: as I said I'm not sure how mp32ogg would handle it
[03:57] <hydrogen> It's just generally a better idea :)
[03:58] <hydrogen> uga: For most usages (read non audiophile) the default quality setting is fine.. especially if one is converting from mp3 anyways
[03:58] <hydrogen> either way
[03:58] <hydrogen> as you can see TMTOWTDI
[03:58] <uga> yes, notice the mp3 could be set to real high quality
[03:59] <hydrogen> theres no such thing :P
[03:59] <uga> hydrogen: Too Much TO What To Do I?
[03:59] <hydrogen> close!
[03:59] <kloplop> uga, yeah I noticed when I played it, it seemed to loose quality
[03:59] <uga> Tom Must Teach Will To Do Insane?
[04:00] <hydrogen> Theres more than one way to do it!
[04:00] <uga> kloplop: unless you really need oggs, I'd suggest keeping the mp3
[04:00] <uga> s
[04:00] <intelikey> just use audacity  :)
[04:00] <hydrogen> we can all agree thats the silliest way to do it :)
[04:00] <maltaethiron> Hey, who can help me install wine?
[04:00] <kloplop> I really don't care about it, I just want to have it play on the login screen :D
[04:01] <hydrogen> heh, all this for one file?
[04:01] <intelikey> uga unless you really like propritary, i'd sujest using only ogg vorbis
[04:01] <hydrogen> if you have mp3 already
[04:01] <uga> intelikey: he's got the mp3s already
[04:01] <kloplop> well, brb, I am going to test this
[04:01] <hydrogen> then switching to ogg is kind of silly :)
[04:01] <intelikey> uga it's one mp3 in question.
[04:01] <hydrogen> unless you suddenly married RMS's sister
[04:01] <maltaethiron> can somebody please help me install wine??
[04:02] <intelikey> maltaethiron   sudo apt-get install wine
[04:02] <intelikey> maltaethiron or is that 64 bit ?
[04:02] <Dr_willis> Same as ya install anything else basicially. :)
[04:02] <maltaethiron> intelikey : yes, and i havent got wine in my repos
[04:02] <uga> intelikey: he may need to enable universe or multiverse
[04:03] <uga> maltaethiron: there's no wine for 64bit
[04:03] <maltaethiron> damn
[04:03] <maltaethiron> well thanks
[04:03] <maltaethiron> hmm...well is there some way i can get Steam to work on 64 bit?
[04:03] <uga> 32bit chrooting might help
[04:04] <hydrogen> doesn't *buntu support multilib installs?
[04:04] <Dr_willis> might want to ask 'why do i need 64bit'
[04:04] <hydrogen> !multilib
[04:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about multilib - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:04] <hydrogen> heh
[04:04] <hydrogen> worth a try :)
[04:04] <toxop1asma> hey guys, a quick noob question: what's the command to read /etc/fstab and remount everything?
[04:04] <Dr_willis> mount -a
[04:04] <toxop1asma> thanks
[04:04] <maltaethiron> uga : what would 32bit chrooting be?
[04:05] <Dr_willis> that will not remount everyting
[04:05] <hydrogen> ah, nope
[04:05] <Dr_willis> it will 'auto mount' whats set to auto mount
[04:05] <kloplop> the music didn't play
[04:05] <uga> Dr_willis: 4GB or userspace ram? :P
[04:05] <Dr_willis> theres no 'remount everyting' command that i am aware of.
[04:05] <hydrogen> maltaethiron: you may want to see http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit#head-08d4087d863019523214064680fcf26721c9a1af
[04:07] <kloplop> apparently LAME doesn't encode it to Ogg Vorbis
[04:07] <hydrogen> no
[04:07] <hydrogen> it encodes to mp3
[04:07] <Arv3n> Hi.
[04:08] <hydrogen> you need to use oggenc
[04:08] <Arv3n> How do I get Konversation to autoidentify me?
[04:08] <diskonnected3> hey room...can somebody tell me where i can find the linux-source-2.6.20-15-generic for the 7.04 Kubuntu distro?? i need the kernel source to compile the nvidia drivers
[04:08] <kloplop> it wouldn't let me
[04:08] <hydrogen> lame -d file && oggenc file
[04:08] <abominius> where i can find out if my radeon x1550 is supported by radeon open drivers?
[04:08] <hydrogen> you could probably shorten that file
[04:08] <hydrogen> but I don't want to think
[04:08] <orin> My Logitech USB microphone registers with the system and then suddenly loses power. Here's a sample log of what happens (from dmesg | tail -f): http://phpfi.com/264499
[04:08] <Arv3n> How do I get Konversation to autoidentify me?
[04:08] <diskonnected> 4hey room...can somebody tell me where i can find the linux-source-2.6.20-15-generic for the 7.04 Kubuntu distro?? i need the kernel source to compile the nvidia drivers
[04:08] <orin> lsusb only shows my keyboard and my mouse.
[04:08] <hydrogen> diskonnected3: why can't you just install the nvidia drivers from adept?
[04:08] <diskonnected> they didnt work
[04:09] <diskonnected> they screwed the xconfig up
[04:09] <hydrogen> thats nice and descriptive
[04:09] <Arv3n> Is it possible for me to get Konversation to autoidentify me?
[04:09] <Dr_willis> gee.. an 8800 video card?
[04:09] <hydrogen> how did they screw it up?
[04:09] <diskonnected> so i reverted to the backup and then it worked
[04:09] <orin> diskonnected: I had to edit my xorg.conf for my 8300 GS because not everything worked out of the box.
[04:09] <diskonnected> when i restarted x i got no picture and a x11 server crash
[04:09] <kloplop> there its converted using mp32ogg
[04:09] <hydrogen> did you try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[04:09] <Dr_willis> diskonnected,  and what is your video card?
[04:09] <trpr> Arv3n: under the identity i created to use with the server, i set the service to "nickserv" and put my password into the password box
[04:09] <abominius> where i can find out if my radeon x1550 is supported by radeon open drivers?
[04:09] <hydrogen> without the ? obviously
[04:09] <diskonnected> no i did not
[04:09] <diskonnected> its a generic nvidia geforce fx 5200
[04:10] <baghyay> hi how to change language of keyboard
[04:10] <kloplop> ok it works, in the terminal, just a moment
[04:10] <diskonnected> ok
[04:10] <Dr_willis> the xorf.conf file should be virtually identical for most nvidia cards. the fx 5200 i think should work find with the nvidia drivers in the repos.
[04:10] <uga> Arv3n: File->ServerList->edit your irc server (freenode thing)->select the identity->edit...->AutoIdentify: service=NickServ, password, yours
[04:10] <Dr_willis> you may want to install/use the 'restricted-manager' tool to install them
[04:10] <Arv3n> TY guys.
[04:10] <Arv3n> I thought it was NickServ IDENTIFY
[04:10] <diskonnected> they installed fine but then when i restarted the x after doing sudo nvidia-glx-config enable it did nothing...
[04:10] <abominius> ...
[04:10] <hydrogen> a cool little trick you can use on freenode
[04:11] <abominius> !radeon
[04:11] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:11] <hydrogen> is setting the server password to your nick's password
[04:11] <uga> Arv3n: no, konversation takes care of sending the command, you only need to tell it the service name (NickServ)
[04:11] <toxop1asma> Dr_willis: yeah, that's what i meant, but couldn't articulate on account of noobness. it worked, so thanks :)
[04:11] <hydrogen> and it will identify for you that way
[04:11] <Arv3n> OK, well.
[04:11] <Arv3n> Is this on Freenode?
[04:11] <hydrogen> yes
[04:11] <Arv3n> OK, I don't need to re-register then.
[04:11] <kloplop> where is that file that has the boot instructions where I would put it in? I forgot where it was
[04:11] <Arv3n> I keep seeing irc.ubuntu.com everywhere.
[04:11] <Arv3n> BRB.
[04:11] <Dracari> ok that was weird my xubuntu mac just nearly crashed
[04:11] <hydrogen> ubuntu.com is linked to freenode
[04:11] <diskonnected> thanks guys; im gonna go try that command u just told me and ill let ya'll know..thanks!
[04:12] <hydrogen> or it actually just points to irc.freenode.net
[04:12] <Dracari> but anyone know the sudo command for Adept Manger in terminal
[04:12] <Arv3n> hydrogen: IC.
[04:12] <Arv3n> It doesn't say I'm identified. -_-
[04:12] <diskonnected> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:12] <yoshibot> Dracari: maybe kdesu adept_manager
[04:12] <baghyay> how to change  the keybord language plz i  want  write somthing  in arabic
[04:12] <diskonnected> right?
[04:12] <xluchox> how can I put a program out for a blacklist?
[04:13] <Dr_willis> xluchox,  Huh?
[04:13] <hydrogen> diskonnected: yes
[04:13] <xluchox> yeah
[04:13] <Arv3n> OK, I just had to restart Konversation. -_-
[04:13] <Arv3n> How is Gutsy going?
[04:13] <xluchox> I had to put a program in blacklist, but I think I need it now
[04:13] <Arv3n> I'm upgrading to it right now from Beta 3.
[04:13] <Arv3n> Or Tribe 3, sorry.
[04:13] <Dr_willis> Arv3n,  its working decently well.. but just the other day had 400mb of updates. :)
[04:14] <Arv3n> 400mb?
[04:14] <Arv3n> Are you sure?
[04:14] <uga> Arv3n: heh, good luck. I couldn't boot tribe 5 after upgrading from feisty ;)
[04:14] <Dr_willis> Arv3n,    like it matters. :)
[04:14] <Arv3n> Need to get 459MB of archives.
[04:14] <Dr_willis> I alsways do a clean reinstall anyway
[04:14] <Arv3n> I'm upgrading from Tribe 3. =/
[04:14] <Arv3n> Tribe 3 --> Tribe 5/Prebeta = 459MB of updates? o_o
[04:14] <Dr_willis> thats how it goes.
[04:15] <Dr_willis> brb
[04:15] <Arv3n> Pacman > apt-get.
[04:15] <Arv3n> Well.
[04:15] <hydrogen> I've never ran into an opinion (other than my own of course) that was correct
[04:15] <Arv3n> in matter of difficulty imo its
[04:15] <Dracari> and how can i configure xubuntu for smb ? i had kubuntu installed on this ppc mac and it was allready set but i dunn have anything set for samba
[04:15] <Arv3n> uh
[04:15] <Dracari> on this distro
[04:16] <Arv3n> gentoo/portage/ebuilds/whatever > deb > rpm > pacman binaries (o_o)
[04:16] <Arv3n> simply because every time i try and install gnome/kde/xfce on gentoo from a pure install.
[04:16] <Arv3n> I always get these builds errors and what not, just basically something thats unsolvable.
[04:16] <Arv3n> Like call stack error, and it always happens. =|
[04:17] <diskonnected3> hey people..how do i find out the hardware ID of my graphics card??im sorry to bug ya'll i havnt been using linux for a long time...im jus starting to get the hang of it again
[04:17] <kloplop> hey thanks guys for helping me put annoying music on boot :)
[04:17] <victoria_> lspci in terminal ?
[04:18] <diskonnected3> thanks
[04:18] <diskonnected3> i totally new that too lol..jus im slow:)
[04:18] <Arv3n> we all are. (not really)
[04:18] <victoria_> :)
[04:18] <Arv3n> im slow too.
[04:18] <diskonnected3> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]  (rev a1)
[04:18] <Arv3n> but i cant speak for everyone. =X
[04:18] <diskonnected3> does that sound right?
[04:18] <kloplop> I got the same graphics card
[04:18] <victoria_> that looks like it
[04:18] <diskonnected3> u do?
[04:18] <kloplop> yes
[04:18] <diskonnected3> ok
[04:19] <Arv3n> fx 5200..
[04:19] <kloplop> is there something I can help with on that?
[04:19] <Arv3n> ew, those were old and crappy even when the 5XXX series were good. >.>
[04:19] <diskonnected3> so in the configure xserver-xorg i would put PCI:01:00.0 ?
[04:19] <diskonnected3> right now its got PCI:1:0:0
[04:20] <ardchoille> diskonnected3: I use nvidia drivers and have never changed the default setting for that
[04:20] <kloplop> well, cya
[04:20] <victoria_> i have the nvidia GeForce4 420 Go and I can't run compiz on it :(
[04:20] <diskonnected3> ok..so leave it then? cuz when i got the last xorg crash b4 it was saying there was no card at the hardware id it had listed in the config file...
[04:20] <victoria_> i've tried eNvy and everything, but I always end up with the white screen of death
[04:20] <Arv3n> white screen of death, lole.
[04:21] <maltaethiron> ok, listen up and listen good: i have the wine stuff downloaded and untared on my desktop.  a website is telling me to compile it using "./configure", followed by "make", and then "make install"...anyone able to help me on this??
[04:21] <ardchoille> diskonnected3: Oh, in that case I don't know.
[04:21] <Arv3n> uh.
[04:21] <Arv3n> you dont compile it frmo source.
[04:21] <Arv3n> you open adept and search for wine ad install it.
[04:21] <maltaethiron> ...
[04:21] <maltaethiron> listen
[04:21] <maltaethiron> ok
[04:21] <maltaethiron> well
[04:21] <Arv3n> thats SERIOUSLY not recommended.
[04:21] <maltaethiron> i got 64 bit
[04:21] <Arv3n> compiling from source = bad, bad bad bad.
[04:21] <diskonnected3> well lspci is saying its 01:00.0 and the cofigure program is asking if its PCI:1:0:0...so what would you guys/girls suggest?
[04:21] <ardchoille> maltaethiron: install it from the repos
[04:21] <maltaethiron> it's not in the repos
[04:21] <Arv3n> i cant help with 64-bit, sorry.
[04:21] <ardchoille> !wine | maltaethiron
[04:21] <ubotu> maltaethiron: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:21] <Dr_willis> Im not sure that wine CAN run in 64bit
[04:22] <Dr_willis> or it would be in the repos.
[04:22] <maltaethiron> can anyone just give me a better list of repos
[04:22] <Arv3n> why not just use the 32 bit version? -_-
[04:22] <Dr_willis> !easysource
[04:22] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:22] <Arv3n> are you really experiencing that much of a speed increase with the 64 bit version?
[04:22] <maltaethiron> thats it, source o matic, thanks
[04:22] <Dr_willis> You would need to use the 32bit chroot stuff. i belive
[04:22] <Dr_willis> !chroot
[04:22] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[04:23] <Dr_willis> unless you got 4gb+ of memory - you proberly are not gaining mucgh by using 64bit disrto anyway
[04:23] <diskonnected3> ardchoille > any suggestions?
[04:23] <Arv3n> srsly.
[04:23] <Arv3n> and if you have 4gigs of memory
[04:23] <Arv3n> well.. i dont think it would matter and i would still use the 32 bit version.
[04:24] <Arv3n> since 64-bit is horrible. =X
[04:24] <Dracari> i'm not using 32bit or 64bit or x86 ubuntu :P
[04:24] <Arv3n> PPC?
[04:24] <Arv3n> i dont think ppc is supported anymore, is it?
[04:25] <Arv3n> so thats even worse than 64 bit. =P
[04:25] <Dracari> fiest fawn 7.04
[04:25] <Dracari> *fiesty
[04:25] <Arv3n> feisty* o_o
[04:25] <Arv3n> isnt it feisty
[04:25] <Arv3n> yeah its feisty.
[04:25] <Dracari> so my spelling sucks @ times
[04:26] <Arv3n> its ok.
[04:26] <vamp898> how does Totem Plays DVDs with Mens?
[04:26] <william__> can i get a little temperture widget and forcequit thing like in gnome for kubuntu?
[04:27] <victoria_> does anyone here know if ubuntu can play VCDs now? I can play DVDs with no problem but VCDs just won't play :(
[04:28] <dave4272> Apple quicktime trailers, how to view in Firefox?
[04:28] <Arv3n> mplayer? maybe?
[04:28] <dave4272> mplayer within firefox?
[04:28] <Arv3n> yeah.
[04:28] <Arv3n> the plugin, try that.
[04:29] <Arv3n> not sure.
[04:29] <Arv3n> maybe realplayer.
[04:29] <shockdiode> hmm, i play vcds no probem in kubuntu with xine, I can't remember if I had to install any plugins for xine to do that or not
[04:29] <Arv3n> what is xine?
[04:29] <Arv3n> isnt that the backend for videos or something?
[04:29] <shockdiode> video player
[04:29] <shockdiode> yeah
[04:29] <victoria_> there's a multi-platform embedded player downloadable for firefox -- if you see the puzzlepiece on the browser screen that says plugin required, you can just click that and it will tell you what you need
[04:29] <dave4272> you're not understanding me. when i go to apple.com/trailers and try to watch a trailer, nothing happens
[04:29] <Arv3n> hold.
[04:30] <Arv3n> i think you might need flash.
[04:30] <Arv3n> on gutsy, it loads fine.
[04:30] <Dracari> thatsbig downall to mei can use flash
[04:30] <Dracari> *cant
[04:31] <Arv3n> gutsy tribe 3, i havent even installed anything, im just done a fresh install and now upgrading to tribe 5.
[04:31] <Dracari> Adobe flash no longer has a ppc vers
[04:31] <Arv3n> well.
[04:31] <Arv3n> i dont know what to say then.
[04:31] <dave4272> i don't need flash. Apple's trailers all use h.264 codecs.
[04:31] <Arv3n> well.
[04:31] <Arv3n> whatever it is, it works perfectly fine with kubuntu. o_o
[04:31] <Arv3n> gutsy
[04:31] <Arv3n> ok, nevermind. it just shows a grey screen after loading.
[04:31] <dave4272> what browser are you using, firefox?
[04:32] <Arv3n> im using konqueror.
[04:32] <Arv3n> and no, sorry, nevermind, its not done loading yet.
[04:32] <Arv3n> i know.
[04:32] <Arv3n> i hate konqueror. *kry*
[04:32] <dave4272> i think what i need is a h.264 plugin for firefox/ubuntu
[04:32] <Arv3n> well, try doing whatever you think is best, then.
[04:33] <Arv3n> honestly, i would think either flash or mplayer plugin.
[04:33] <shockdiode> mozilla-mplayer
[04:33] <victoria_> http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/thedarkknight/trailer1/  <<-when i load this up it says NO Video
[04:33] <victoria_> :(
[04:33] <dave4272> firefox already has flash built in. Apple trailers have nothing to do with flash, this is not youtube
[04:33] <william__> how do i force close a window in kde?
[04:34] <Arv3n> just click x
[04:34] <william__> and if that doesnt work
[04:34] <Arv3n> and thhen a window should pop up saying to kill the program
[04:34] <vamp898> STRG + ALT + ESC
[04:34] <vamp898> than klick the window
[04:34] <Arv3n> or type killall <program name>
[04:34] <daSkreech> dave4272: Firefox does not have Flash built in
[04:35] <Arv3n> do we have any ops in here?
[04:35] <Arv3n> because it says we have none.
[04:35] <Arv3n> if we dont have any ops, then thats really risky. o_o
[04:35] <dave4272> so you're saying firefox does not do flash? how come flash sites load and so forth
[04:35] <william__> ~$ sudo killall vlc
[04:35] <william__> Password:
[04:35] <william__> vlc: no process killed
[04:35] <Arv3n> you have to install flash first.
[04:35] <Arv3n> therefore it is not built in.
[04:35] <Arv3n> built-in means that its already installed with the program.
[04:35] <dave4272> whatever, you're digressing
[04:36] <vamp898> william: try STRG + ESC and search the prozecc
[04:36] <Arv3n> not even sure what digressing means.
[04:36] <vamp898> or STRG + ALT + ESC and klick the window
[04:36] <daSkreech> Arv3n: Lets say if they are needed they are here
[04:36] <dave4272> it's in a dictionary
[04:36] <william__> what is strg
[04:36] <vamp898> CTRL
[04:36] <vamp898> sry
[04:36] <vamp898> ^^
[04:36] <william__> oh right
[04:37] <vamp898> German keyboard^^
[04:37] <nonewmsgs> that worked thanks
[04:37] <Arv3n> k, i dont feel like reading in a dictionary for a word i'll never use. =/
[04:37] <nonewmsgs> im william _
[04:37] <vamp898> kk
[04:37] <daSkreech> nonewmsgs: that's a program called Xkill it destroys any X window
[04:37] <shockdiode> victoria: using the mozilla-mplayer package makes that link work fine for me
[04:37] <daSkreech> nonewmsgs: Please don't click on your desktop
[04:37] <nonewmsgs> can i sudo apt get xkill?
[04:38] <Arv3n> sudo apt-get install xkill
[04:38] <daSkreech> nonewmsgs: It's there already
[04:38] <nonewmsgs> is xkill in the kmenu or is it a terminal command
[04:38] <aftermath> how do I see a list of my hardware?
[04:39] <newsense07> nonewmsgs: can add it to the kmenu if ya want
[04:39] <daSkreech> nonewmsgs: Funny enough it's a terminal command
[04:39] <daSkreech> nonewmsgs: alt+ctrl+Esc is a short cut to it
[04:39] <daSkreech> aftermath: lshw
[04:39] <victoria_> shockdiode: many thanks
[04:39] <shockdiode> sure thing
[04:39] <vamp898> ctrl + esc is nice too
[04:39] <nonewmsgs> excellant.  one other question.  what is the difference between konsole, terminal, and terminal emulator
[04:39] <Arv3n> ?
[04:40] <Arv3n> konsole = kde terminal
[04:40] <vamp898> terminal = gnome terminal
[04:40] <Arv3n> actually.
[04:40] <Dr_willis> xkill is an old skool terminal commandused to kill x apps wth a mouse click
[04:40] <Arv3n> might he mean pressing CTRL + ALT + F1 = terminal?
[04:40] <Arv3n> or is that a console.
[04:40] <Dr_willis> alt-ctrl-f1 = console #1
[04:40] <daSkreech> vamp898: Oh yeah but that's less gratifying
[04:40] <Arv3n> right right.
[04:40] <newsense07> vamp898: never knew cntrl+esc shortcut to process list, nice
[04:40] <Arv3n> wooow.
[04:40] <nonewmsgs> i see them in my k menu but i have xfce, gnome and kde (k is my newest try and im loving it)
[04:41] <Arv3n> ctrl + esc cool loel
[04:41] <Arv3n> you should just install kubuntu for less bloat. =/
[04:41] <aftermath> no more trying random key combinations i see in irc
[04:41] <daSkreech> nonewmsgs: try alt+space
[04:41] <aftermath> what was the command again?
[04:41] <aftermath> to see a list of hardware?
[04:41] <nonewmsgs> katapult?
[04:41] <daSkreech> aftermath: lshw
[04:41] <daSkreech> nonewmsgs: Yeah do that and type the name of a program like amarok
[04:41] <Arv3n> lspci?
[04:42] <kloplop> what or where is the file that is runned when logging in?
[04:42] <Arv3n> ?
[04:42] <Arv3n> hold
[04:42] <Arv3n> cd /usr/share/autostart
[04:43] <daSkreech> !autostart
[04:43] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[04:43] <Arv3n> if thats what you mean.
[04:43] <kloplop> as in like a bash script that runs after a sucsessfull login
[04:43] <Arv3n> oh.
[04:43] <daSkreech> kloplop: there are a large number of files
[04:43] <Arv3n> uh, i think you should copy that to /usr/share/autostart or ~.kde/Autostart
[04:43] <kloplop> well obvoiusly
[04:43] <daSkreech> You may be looking for ~/.bash_profile
[04:43] <Arv3n> i dont understand.
[04:43] <Arv3n> whats he asking?
[04:44] <Arv3n> well guys.
[04:44] <Arv3n> it looks like kubuntu is quickly catching up with ubuntu. =)
[04:44] <kloplop> I think that the kcontrol-autostart might help just a sec let me check it out
[04:44] <Arv3n> looking much more polished lately.
[04:44] <newsense07> Arv3n: i started with ubuntu but hate gnome so i converted
[04:44] <Arv3n> dont get me started on gnome. =/
[04:45] <Arv3n> they REALLY aren't going anywhere.
[04:45] <aftermath> thanks, daSkreech
[04:45] <newsense07> Arv3n: even ordered a kubuntu cd to replace the ubuntu stickers i got
[04:45] <Arv3n> lol.
[04:45] <Arv3n> whats hte difference between the dvd and cd?
[04:45] <Arv3n> because i see a dvd version, but it doesnt look different than the cd version.
[04:45] <newsense07> i got no dvd-rom so i have no idea
[04:45] <Arv3n> shmeh.
[04:45] <daSkreech> Arv3n: it has all of main on it
[04:46] <Arv3n> all of main? as in the repo?
[04:46] <daSkreech> fol bun
[04:46] <daSkreech> Yes
[04:46] <Arv3n> interseting.
[04:46] <Arv3n> isnt main huge, though?
[04:46] <Arv3n> i thought the dvd was only like 1 gig.
[04:47] <Arv3n> ok, that answers my question, good for like offline or slow connection ppls.
[04:48] <daSkreech> 4 Gb
[04:48] <kloplop> is there a way for me to use the workgroup network in my house like in windows, Ex: printing and file sharing?
[04:48] <daSkreech> Yeah
[04:48] <stdin> ~4.4GB
[04:48] <daSkreech> strange that the larger download is better for sloe connections
[04:48] <stdin> Arv3n: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/feisty/release/kubuntu-7.04-dvd-i386.list < DVD file list
[04:49] <Biovore> !samba
[04:49] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[04:49] <Arv3n> nooonono.
[04:49] <Arv3n> you buy the dvd. =P
[04:49] <Arv3n> not download it. -_-
[04:49] <stdin> Arv3n: that's just the file list, not the iso...
[04:49] <Arv3n> i was talking to daskreech
[04:49] <Arv3n> -_-
[04:50] <Arv3n> why arent there any apps in here?
[04:50] <Arv3n> *ops
[04:50] <Arv3n> lol
[04:50] <daSkreech> In.... IRC ?
[04:50] <Arv3n> yeah.
[04:50] <Biovore> there are.. they just become ops unless they need to do an admin thing..
[04:50] <Arv3n> it says 0 ops
[04:50] <daSkreech> Oh ops
[04:50] <Arv3n> oh.
[04:50] <stdin> they are hiding ;)
[04:50] <Biovore> hehe
[04:50] <Arv3n> niiice.
[04:50] <daSkreech> If needed they are there
[04:50] <daSkreech> tame bug
[04:51] <Arv3n> so like if i screamed a random word.
[04:51] <Arv3n> like something.. bad.
[04:51] <daSkreech> then I'd have to smack you
[04:51] <Arv3n> nou
[04:51] <stdin> you can scream all you want, just don't type it in :)
[04:51] <Arv3n> lol.
[04:51] <Arv3n> then id be in even bigger trouble.
[04:51] <Arv3n> if i just started screaming penis, my dad would be like wtf.
[04:52] <Arv3n> it'd be a weird moment
[04:52] <daSkreech> Good bonding
[04:52] <Biovore> lol
[04:54] <soulrider> hello
[04:54] <soulrider> anyone here running kde4 ?
[04:55] <Arv3n> good bonding?
[04:55] <Arv3n> are you kidding me?
[04:55] <Arv3n> hed probably be like "are you alright, son?"
[04:55] <Arv3n> actually, hes taking some medicine.
[04:55] <Arv3n> so i could say he was hallucinating. LOL
[04:56] <Dasnipa`_> pfft
[04:56] <Arv3n> lmfao.
[04:56] <Arv3n> this guy was on the fence
[04:56] <Arv3n> trying to rob a home and he got stuck.
[04:56] <Arv3n> and he was there for 45 mins
[04:57] <Arv3n> holding himself up with his strength
[04:57] <stdin> !ot | Arv3n
[04:57] <ubotu> Arv3n: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[04:57] <Arv3n> i didnt know kubuntu had an offtopic channel. =X
[04:57] <Arv3n> i thought that was a sabayon linux thing.
[04:57] <Dasnipa`_> Arv3n: TWSS
[04:57] <Arv3n> twss = ?
[04:57] <Dasnipa`_> Arv3n> holding himself up with his strength: TWSS, thats what she said
[04:57] <Arv3n> ??
[04:58] <Arv3n> good lord no.
[04:58] <Arv3n> !google test
[04:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about google test - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:58] <Arv3n> cool. =D
[04:58] <Arv3n> that could come in handy.
[04:59] <Arv3n> this irc channel is much smaller than ubuntu.
[04:59] <daSkreech> !factoids
[04:59] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:59] <Arv3n> finally, done downloading 459MB of updates.
[04:59] <Arv3n> at 160kb/s. =X
[04:59] <daSkreech> Time to upgrade to Gutsy :-)
[05:00] <Arv3n> you? or me?
[05:00] <daSkreech> then 4 weeks later upgrade to hardy :)
[05:00] <daSkreech> You :)
[05:00] <Arv3n> hardy.
[05:00] <Arv3n> idno about that.
[05:00] <daSkreech> !hardy
[05:00] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for Ubuntu 8.04-LTS, due April 2008. For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron
[05:00] <Arv3n> noo.
[05:00] <Arv3n> i dont know if im going to upgrade to hardy so soon.
[05:00] <Dasnipa`_> daSkreech: the hardly boys
[05:00] <aftermath> how do I write to a mounted ntfs?
[05:00] <Arv3n> ntfs-3g?
[05:02] <ardchoille> !ntfs
[05:02] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:02] <aftermath> !ntfs-3g
[05:02] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:05] <orin> How do I select a USB microphone as the microphone input device for the system?
[05:10] <daSkreech> orin: ahh right USB
[05:11] <orin> The system detects my AK5370 properly.
[05:11] <Dr_willis> one of those neat gizmos that can cuase so many problems. :)
[05:12] <orin> It worked on an older Gentoo system of mine.
[05:22] <Tann> I have set Kubuntu to mount a partition on boot, but now it is trying to boot off that partition. How do I make it not boot from that partition?
[05:23] <daSkreech> Tann: from your menu.lst file
[05:24] <Tann> daSkreech: How do I get to it if Linux isn't booted yet? Use a live CD?
[05:25] <khaije> i'm having issues getting my new bluetooth stereo headset to work, doesn't seem to want to pair
[05:25] <khaije> any info about this?
[05:25] <ardchoille> Tann: You can use a live cd, boot the proper partition and then edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[05:25] <daSkreech> !bluetooth
[05:25] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[05:26] <daSkreech> ardchoille: technically he can jsut edit the grub menu directly
[05:26] <khaije> daSkreech: i think i'm already past that tut
[05:26] <daSkreech> assuming that Tann is a he
[05:26] <ardchoille> daSkreech: True, but I never learned how to do that
[05:26] <mmmiiikkkeee> what is the difference between the generic kernel and the 386 one???
[05:26] <klobster> please no one recommend envy to anyone.  I have spent the last week solving the problems it caused.
[05:27] <khaije> klobster: whats wrong w/ it?
[05:27] <stdin> mmmiiikkkeee: 386 is optimised for the i386 cpu, generic will optimise itself to your cpu
[05:28] <Tann> daSkreech: Thanks
[05:29] <nonewmsgs> the weird thing is 386 is way too slow for ubuntu/kubuntu
[05:29] <stdin> it's not too old or slow, just not as fast as newer ones. I know people who run KDE on 600MHz CPUs just fine
[05:30] <klobster> khaije: long story short, I used it to uninstall my nvidia driver, and it borked something, and it's taken me a week to clean up the mess.  I imagine if envy is the first and only place they go, they will be fine, but I am sure that most people (like me) have other tweaks going on that they won't remember about.  And then they are hosed.
[05:30] <nonewmsgs> i mean an i386 which had speeds from 16mhz-~50Mhz
[05:30] <mmmiiikkkeee> if i have a Pentium 3 i should still use the generic?
[05:30] <kloplop> is there any way I can run dos games on here
[05:30] <stdin> mmmiiikkkeee: generic is for everyone
[05:30] <nonewmsgs> yes pentium 3 uses generic
[05:31] <stdin> nonewmsgs: some servers would use 386 still
[05:31] <khaije> klobster: envy is foss nvidia gfx accell right? sounds like it's the install script rather than the whole project, no?
[05:31] <daSkreech> !dosbox
[05:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dosbox - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:31] <daSkreech> !info dosbox
[05:31] <ubotu> dosbox: A x86 emulator with Tandy/Herc/CGA/EGA/VGA/SVGA graphics, sound and DOS. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.65-1 (feisty), package size 506 kB, installed size 1388 kB
[05:31] <stdin> nonewmsgs: tho there is a -server kernel
[05:31] <beans> kloplop: try dosbox
[05:32] <klobster> khaije: yeah pretty much, but it's lookin like it wants to follow suit with automatix
[05:32] <klobster> !automatix
[05:32] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[05:32] <nonewmsgs> interesting stdin
[05:33] <daSkreech> !easyubuntu
[05:33] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[05:33] <stdin> !envy
[05:33] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[05:33] <nonewmsgs> envy is dangerous? i hadn't heard that before
[05:35] <stdin> it can be, yes
[05:35] <klobster> thanks ubotu, someone in here recommended envy to me, and where where you then?
[05:35] <stdin> !bot
[05:35] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:36] <gustavo> whats the best way to secure a web server?
[05:36] <klobster> stdin: I know, I was trying to be funny
[05:36] <stdin> gustavo: by not allowing access to it :p
[05:36] <purpleposeidon> !lol
[05:36] <ubotu> Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[05:36] <daSkreech> gustavo: thoroughly
[05:37] <stdin> gustavo: keep up to date and use a firewall too
[05:37] <gustavo> besides that 'option'
[05:37] <gustavo> stdin: i mean, chroot it, and something else?
[05:37] <mmmiiikkkeee> i never understood the point of envy... it seems like its trys to do what should be done with respotories/apt-get....why do people waist time makeing this envy script and not just package the stuff in the respotiries(or make there own respotory?)??....ps i have never used envy though..
[05:37] <stdin> gustavo: chroot is good, don't load any "modules" you don't need also
[05:37] <purpleposeidon> gustavo: make sure all of your cgi programs are safe
[05:39] <khaije1> mmmiiikkkeee: seems like a no-brainer doesn't it? i can only assume this will change if ther project has value and is sincere
[05:40] <Mexflubber> Hey how can I install x-chat in kubuntu ?
[05:40] <stdin> by just installing it
[05:40] <stdin> with Adept/apt
[05:40] <Mexflubber> how do I do that ?
[05:40] <Mexflubber> what do I type in Konsole?
[05:41] <gustavo> thanks ppl...
[05:41] <stdin> sudo apt-get install xchat
[05:41] <ubunturos> sudo apt-get install x-chat-gnome
[05:41] <ubunturos> correction xchat-gnome*
[05:42] <Mexflubber> does it run in Kubuntu ?
[05:42] <stdin> sure
[05:42] <ubunturos> Mexflubber: it might require a few GNOME libraries
[05:42] <ubunturos> Mexflubber: apt-get should take care of that though
[05:43] <stdin> all gnome/gtk apps run in kubuntu and all kde/Qt apps run in Ubuntu
[05:44] <ubunturos> Mexflubber: you could actually install the GNOME desktop as well (variety) ;)
[05:44] <Mexflubber> LOL xD
[05:44] <Mexflubber> ty I'm helping a friend by phone btw ... lol
[05:44] <stdin> not to mention xfce, fluxbox or any other DE
[05:45] <daSkreech> And E apps?
[05:45] <ubunturos> daSkreech: you mean, for the enlightment wm?
[05:45] <daSkreech> yup
[05:46] <daSkreech> no love for that? :)
[05:46] <ubunturos> heh
[05:46] <Mexflubber> Why when I'm compilling a C programm it tells me It can't found the libraries ? also syntax is Ok !
[05:46] <nonewmsgs> there's something to apt-get
[05:46] <stdin> Mexflubber: have you installed the librarys -dev packages and build-essential ?
[05:47] <nonewmsgs> build essentials thats what i was tihnking of
[05:47] <Mexflubber> stdin : don't know .. how do I check that ?
[05:47] <mmmiiikkkeee> my computer has to use an older kernel, but 2.6.17 is not available in fiesty resptory... i added dapper's resptories to my sources.list... it worked but is there a more prefered way to install older packages?
[05:47] <daSkreech> !b-e
[05:47] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:47] <nonewmsgs> !botsnack
[05:47] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[05:47] <daSkreech> mmmiiikkkeee: has ot?
[05:47] <stdin> Mexflubber: "sudo apt-get install build-essential" to grab all the standard C/C++ devel packages
[05:47] <mmmiiikkkeee> what is ot?
[05:48] <daSkreech> has to?
[05:48] <purpleposeidon> When I'm compiling something, I run ./configure; and then do apt-cache search on whatever dependencies it's missing, then install it and the -dev version
[05:48] <Mexflubber> when doing apt-get install xchat it tells me to check the "universe" component is installed
[05:48] <Mexflubber> why ?
[05:49] <mmmiiikkkeee> any kernel newer panics
[05:49] <stdin> Mexflubber: probably because you don't have the universe repository enabled
[05:49] <stdin> !repos | Mexflubber
[05:49] <ubotu> Mexflubber: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:49] <mmmiiikkkeee> or just gives a lot of errors
[05:50] <brianbaetz> hello
[05:50] <brianbaetz> helo
[05:51] <mmmiiikkkeee> *any of the newer kernels panic; or give errors about lvm or about my cdromdrive
[05:51] <klobster> he could have said hello to himself anywhere.  I for one, am grateful he did it here.
[05:51] <newphaze> hi
[05:52] <newphaze> how do I take a screeny ?
[05:52] <purpleposeidon> newphaze: Prt Sc. :P
[05:52] <newphaze> why doesn't Kubuntu have a screenshot available of th...
[05:52] <newphaze> purpleposeidon: k thanks
[05:52] <newphaze> purpleposeidon: and then?
[05:53] <klobster> newphaze: did you hit the printscreen key?
[05:53] <purpleposeidon> well, it's supposed to run ksnapshot anyways
[05:53] <newphaze> klobster: ah I see an app bouncing
[05:53] <Arv3n> Hai!
[05:53] <Arv3n> How do I get the Plasma theme/Oxygen icons and what not?
[05:53] <newphaze> awsome!! better than m$$hit
[05:54] <purpleposeidon> Hey!  I REALLY do not understand that politically m$$$ correctness/respect attitude
[05:56] <stdin> Arv3n: look on kde-look.org
[05:56] <Arv3n> there is only a script. =/
[05:56] <ardchoille> Arv3n: Go to http://www.kde-look.org and do a search for oxygen, there's tons of stuff
[05:57] <klobster> purpleposeidon: I believe tat thanks was for you...
[05:57] <Arv3n> svn: URL 'svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/KDE/kdelibs/pics/oxygen' doesn't exist
[05:58] <ardchoille> Arv3n: There are scripts at kde-look.org too
[05:58] <Arv3n> yeah, there isnt much.
[05:58] <Arv3n> and those were the ones i was using.
[05:58] <Arv3n> it doesnt work. =/
[05:58] <Arv3n> it gives me that the svn doesnt exist.
[05:59] <Arv3n> nevermind, got it. =O
[05:59] <Arv3n> yay now i must download 60 mb.
[05:59] <newphaze> ok is not working
[06:00] <newphaze>  I need to take a screeny of a pulled down menu of Firefox and when I press NEW Screenshot I can't press the button
[06:00] <newphaze> and I am trying this with the REGION option
[06:00] <ardchoille> newphaze: Set the delay and try again
[06:00] <newphaze> k
[06:00] <purpleposeidon> Have you considered trying it with the DELAY OPTION....
[06:01] <ardchoille> newphaze: delay + window under cursor?
[06:10] <newphaze> is not doing what I a want it do really
[06:13] <jagcorvair> I have the wireless card enabled on the laptop. I can manipulate the numbers. For some strange reason, it won't see the wireless router. Any clues?
[06:13] <cje> hi, I am dual-booting openSUSE and Kubuntu.  I'm kinda worried, though, because when I boot into kubuntu, my hard drive light stays illuminated continuously.  I'm not sure why.  Also, i do experience a wee bit of a lag on using Kino to play video.  This box has 4 GB of RAM, and an AMD dual-core 3800 chip, so it should have the horsepower to handle it.  Thanks in advance for any help.
[06:13] <daSkreech> jagcorvair: iwlist <tab> scan
[06:15] <newphaze> I've might discovered a bug on Ksnapshot
[06:15] <newphaze> "Section Window" works fine with Opera yet is horrible with firefox
[06:15] <newphaze> can someone file that as a bug?
[06:15] <daSkreech> Cause Opera is qt
[06:16] <jagcorvair> daSkreech: eth1 No scan results
[06:17] <daSkreech> jagcorvair: then It can'e see the AP
[06:17] <jagcorvair> I'm in the same room as the AP, daSkreech
[06:17] <newphaze> cmon!! why is so damn difficul takind aa screen of a menu??
[06:18] <newphaze> and with Region won't work 'cause won't open the menu
[06:18] <jagcorvair> Other wireless laptop can see it
[06:18] <daSkreech> newphaze: just use the app
[06:18] <daSkreech> jagcorvair: Is the wireless on?
[06:18] <daSkreech> some have a kill switch
[06:18] <newphaze> and with window doesn't work either cause as soon as press new screenshot the drop down disappears
[06:18] <newphaze> daSkreech: I am
[06:19] <jagcorvair> Yes
[06:19] <jagcorvair> It is enabled
[06:20] <daSkreech> newphaze: what delay are you using?
[06:20] <newphaze> daSkreech: I've tried with 1,2 and 3 seconds
[06:20] <ardchoille> newphaze: Set the delay, press new screenshot, then drop the menu down and wait for the screenshot to be taken.
[06:21] <newphaze> astonishingly region does NOT give me delay option. How retarded is that?
[06:21] <newphaze> I do'
[06:21] <newphaze> I don't want a screenshot of the entire screen
[06:22] <newphaze> just a simple menu
[06:22] <newphaze> is that THAT hard?
[06:22] <ardchoille> newphaze: Scetion of window?
[06:22] <ardchoille> Barring that, take a whole screenshot then edit in the gimp
[06:22] <ananth123> why dont u crop it later ?
[06:23] <maigke> exit
[06:23] <maigke> quit
[06:23] <newphaze> OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:23] <newphaze> why should I do an EXTRA step?
[06:24] <newphaze> it's not working
[06:24] <ardchoille> newphaze: because you are smarter than the ksnapshot developer?
[06:24] <newphaze> that option is there for something and it's NOT working
[06:24] <ananth123> cuz the developers cant foreseen the whims of *all* the users ?
[06:24] <ananth123> then file a bug report :)
[06:24] <ardchoille> I like ananth123's reply better
[06:25] <daSkreech> Actually I can't take a screenshot of a menu either
[06:25] <ardchoille> ananth123: I think if all devs foresaw the whims of all users, every app would fill a hd
[06:25] <daSkreech> ardchoille: rm ?
[06:25] <purpleposeidon> *EMACS* COUGH COUGH
[06:26] <newphaze> you see I am not the only one
[06:26] <daSkreech> Hmm no wait I can
[06:26] <newphaze> by the way that's not a helpful commentary
[06:26] <ananth123> well, i just tried it out with the delay option
[06:26] <daSkreech> Yeah me too
[06:26] <ananth123> and i could take a screenshot WITH the menu
[06:26] <daSkreech> I got one of just the menu
[06:26] <ardchoille> "Window under cursor" works here
[06:26] <newphaze> it should be, "Why doesn't the developer fix and offer a workable app"?
[06:27] <newphaze> is Kubuntu  supposed to be a GOOD linux distro "out of the box"?
[06:27] <ardchoille> newphaze:  http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/7586/preview1ua1.png
[06:28] <newphaze> ardchoille: this is specificcally with Firefox
[06:29] <ardchoille> newphaze: You really can't judge an entire distro by the features of a single app
[06:29] <newphaze> Ksnapshot is broken with Firefox, period. Shouldn't be availabe for Fiesty
[06:29] <pillowpants> is it safe to remove kubuntu-desktop package?
[06:29] <ardchoille> newphaze: You're mixing kde apps and a non-kde app, not the dev's fault.
[06:29] <stdin> newphaze: no it's not, works fine
[06:29] <ardchoille> pillowpants: yes, it's just a met-package
[06:29] <pillowpants> oh, ok
[06:30] <pillowpants> i was removing kopete
[06:30] <stdin> newphaze: http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/9341/test1zd9.jpg < works
[06:30] <newphaze> for instance, why can't I set DELAY with region? That's the MOST obvious in order to be able to have time to drop down the menu and then select that. Yet when  you select region delay is grayed out. Clap, clap, clap... Someone out there got real brains
[06:31] <BigDaddy> howdy again fols
[06:31] <BigDaddy> folks
[06:31] <ardchoille> newphaze: You're mixing kde apps and a non-kde app, not the dev's fault.
[06:31] <newphaze> stdin: o.O how did you it?
[06:31] <newphaze> that's exactly what I am tryinna do :-(
[06:31] <stdin> newphaze: with the window under cursor option
[06:31] <ardchoille> stdin: I tried to tell him that
[06:32] <daSkreech> Yeah that's how I did it as well
[06:32] <stdin> ardchoille: I know
[06:33] <newphaze> ahh thanks GOD for stdin !!!
[06:33] <daSkreech> newphaze: and the ksnapshot developer?
[06:33] <newphaze> you've solve the problem with Firefox!! Should tell the dev also
[06:33] <ardchoille> lol
[06:33] <deichgraf> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3umKwji6ncw
[06:34] <ananth123> newphaze: the region has no delay because you are supposed to select the region *outside* the ksnapshot window... if you click outside you will see a red box to select the region
[06:34] <ananth123> its not a bug, its a feature :)
[06:34] <BigDaddy> hey, anyone here an Opera browser user?
[06:35] <cje> BigDaddy, I use it occasionally, what's up?
[06:35] <BigDaddy> I am just curious why it isn't in the repositories thats all
[06:35] <daSkreech> !opera
[06:35] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[06:35] <stdin> BigDaddy:  because that'd be illegal
[06:36] <daSkreech> BigDaddy: It is but not in the default repos
[06:36] <deichgraf> I'll never post again stupid links.
[06:36] <BigDaddy> illegal?
[06:36] <BigDaddy> It's freeware right?
[06:36] <ananth123> yes, its free
[06:36] <stdin> BigDaddy: canonical don't have permission to redistrobute opera (it's license forbids 3rd party distribution)
[06:36] <ananth123> check www.opera.com
[06:36] <ardchoille> BigDaddy: Is the source freely available?
[06:36] <BigDaddy> aha...
[06:36] <daSkreech> BigDaddy: That doesn't mean anything if it's with beer
[06:36] <stdin> Opera is Closed Source
[06:36] <BigDaddy> well now, but I don't think that nvidia-settings is open source either is it?
[06:36] <Huey> why is it that on a newly formatted partition, linux says 198mb is used?
[06:37] <cute_bettong> hi i downloaded the kubuntu version for  AMD64 and installed it it booted fine and then when i updated it frezzes after saying something about kernal mapping v.v i had to his esc at boot to go into the previous version of the kernal can anyone help me to troubleshoot this issue? o .o
[06:37] <Huey> even though no files are in the partition
[06:37] <ardchoille> Huey: Some space is set aside for system use
[06:37] <stdin> Huey: a certain percentage is reserved for the super user and for the journal
[06:38] <Huey> ardchoille: since this is just a data partition, is there a way to override this?
[06:38] <daSkreech> BigDaddy: but the license allows limited redistribution
[06:38] <Huey> i thought i used tune2fs to get rid of the reserved space
[06:38] <stdin> allows root to login when the partition is "full" to free some space
[06:38] <daSkreech> BigDaddy: in any case you can apt-get it
[06:38] <BigDaddy> Gotcha daSkreech...
[06:38] <ardchoille> Huey: Not sure, never tried.
[06:38] <BigDaddy> apt-get Opera?
[06:38] <daSkreech> yes
[06:38] <stdin> Huey: some will still be used for the journal, or it wouldn't be ext3
[06:38] <ardchoille> stdin: Thank you, I never knew that about root login on a full part
[06:39] <BigDaddy> you lost me there. I thought that Synaptic and apt-get were the same thing only a GUI vs CLI
[06:39] <stdin> BigDaddy: they are
[06:39] <ardchoille> BigDaddy: synaptic uses APT as its back end
[06:39] <BigDaddy> then why can I apt-get Opera but not use Synaptic? Synaptic only use Canonical?
[06:41] <daSkreech> BigDaddy: you can use synaptic
[06:41] <newphaze> still Ksnapshot should have the possibility to take screenshots of menu trees
[06:41] <cute_bettong> anyone have any answer to my question?
[06:41] <cute_bettong> o.o
[06:41] <newphaze> you know what I mean?
[06:41] <BigDaddy> I must not have the correct repositories then.
[06:41] <stdin> BigDaddy: Opera is only in the "commercial" repository hosted on canonical   "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ feisty-commercial main"
[06:41] <daSkreech> newphaze: It can
[06:42] <newphaze> and region should have delay option as well
[06:42] <jagcorvair> daSkreech: Still no luck with the wireless. What do you suggest?
[06:42] <stdin> newphaze: it does, I just showed you
[06:42] <newphaze> that's kinda unacceptable
[06:42] <daSkreech> cute_bettong: reinstal the kernel?
[06:42] <newphaze> stdin: I mean COMPLETE tree
[06:42] <BigDaddy> I am only in the comparison mode ATM. So far I am really likeing Konq. There are just a few quirks so far.
[06:42] <cute_bettong> O_o
[06:42] <newphaze> not just one section of the drop down menu
[06:42] <stdin> newphaze: then take a screen shot of the screen and crop it
[06:42] <wers> how do I make systray icons smaller?
[06:42] <snowdonkey> Hey.  I'm trying to compile a program that requires gnome-python, but I can't find it in Ubuntu repositories.  I've enabled all the repositories manually.  Can anyone else find package?
[06:43] <newphaze> for instance view>drop down men> toolbars
[06:43] <stdin> newphaze: don't like it? then ask the author to do something about it or change it yourself. complaining here will do nothing to change it
[06:44] <ardchoille> snowdonkey: You mean python-gtk ?
[06:44] <newphaze> otherwise how on earth do you know where the hell that particular drop down menu belongs to? View, File, Edit...?
[06:44] <stdin> snowdonkey: python-gnome2-dev maybe ?
[06:44] <snowdonkey> newphaze: The program's read me says gnome-python, and I assume it's this: http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/source/gnome-python
[06:44] <newphaze> stdin: I am only voicing my experience after 4 hours trying to do what I a want
[06:44] <newphaze> and not working obviously
[06:45] <jagcorvair> I am in the same room as the AP, but still will not see it on the laptop. What am I doing wrong?
[06:45] <stdin> newphaze: it does work, just not exactly how you want it to
[06:45] <ardchoille> newphaze: 4 hours? Wow, I would have gave up, taken a full screen and cropped it after 15 minutes.
[06:45] <newphaze> also I don't know how to code, so fixing it myself is pretty much outta the question
[06:46] <stdin> newphaze: then take the 1st option, ask the author to change it or file a bug
[06:46] <snowdonkey> newphaze: lol, thx you're right.  called python-gnome  :)
[06:46] <BigDaddy> OK, here is a real question. Do you guys know a good printing troubleshooting guide website?
[06:47] <ardchoille> !print
[06:47] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[06:47] <ardchoille> BigDaddy: Try one of those
[06:48] <greennick> has anyone else had disastrous boot experiences with the Feisty live install CD?
[06:48] <BigDaddy> I installed a Canon MP160 and the scanner works, but the printing is no go
[06:48] <BigDaddy> looking them up now
[06:49] <newphaze> stdin: you are right, I might point out the issue to the dev, because I am trying to create a quide for some ppl and with my idas it would be a faster more efficient way.
[06:49] <newphaze> Thanks all
[06:49] <ardchoille> greennick: I've install from the Feisty livecd on 30+ computers and never seen a problem.
[06:49] <daSkreech> jagcorvair: Have you ever gotten the computer on before?
[06:49] <ananth123> greennick: what problem did u have ?
[06:50] <daSkreech> jagcorvair: Wait have you read the troubleshotting guide?
[06:50] <greennick> archoille:  hmm...  i tried installing it on a fresh drive (i've got working ubuntus on two other drives), and now nothing will boot past grub
[06:50] <ananth123> greennick: what error msg did u get, if any ?
[06:50] <daSkreech> greennick: From time to time
[06:50] <greennick> jagcorvair:  yeah, i've got two other operating ubuntu disks here (both dapper), all hardware works fine, but something in this process hosed me
[06:51] <jagcorvair> daSkreech: I've followed the manual's steps for setting up the driver. That's golden.
[06:51] <daSkreech> !WIFI | jagcorvair
[06:51] <ubotu> jagcorvair: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:52] <greennick> ananth123:  at first i got nothing but hung blank screens with "_" cursors (no grub loading, nothing), then i used the live cd to boot and grub-install - now i can get to the grub menu but it gives me a "file not found" for the kernels
[06:52] <jagcorvair> daSkreech: It hasn't worked since I put Feisty
[06:52] <jagcorvair> greennick: I installed Kubuntu from the free shipit CD
[06:52] <ananth123> which partition is your installation ?
[06:53] <ardchoille> greennick: Did you change anything with the partitions?
[06:53] <greennick> ananth123: i'm on 3 disks - my feisty installation is on sdc1
[06:53] <ananth123> its strange but a minor fix would be to boot using your live cd and checking if grub's menu.lst entries correspond to the files installed on your hard disk
[06:54] <greennick> archoille: yes, i started feisty on a completely blank drive and partitioned it using the feisty live cd
[06:54] <greennick> ananth123:  yeah, i was just doing that...i haven't noticed any problems there
[06:55] <daSkreech> jagcorvair: what chipset?
[06:55] <ardchoille> ananth123: Could this be a UUID problem being that he has multiple disks?
[06:55] <greennick> i'm wondering if i've somehow mixed up the references of (hd0,0) - (hd2,0) between my BIOS and my grub menu.lst
[06:55] <ananth123> i dont know much about uuid :(
[06:55] <ardchoille> same here
[06:56] <greennick> i did play with my BIOS to change the boot disk - NONE of the three boot now.  : (
[06:56] <ardchoille> greennick: I think i'd first make sure bios is set to boot the correct hd
[06:56] <greennick> ardchoille:  are you talking about disk jumpers?  uuid?
[06:56] <ardchoille> greennick: no
[06:56] <ardchoille> !uuid
[06:56] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  sudo blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[06:56] <jagcorvair> daSkreech: Dell 1390 in a Compaq laptop (go fif)
[06:57] <ananth123> ubotu: i got a seg fault at the end.... hmmmmmmmmm
[06:57] <ardchoille> !bot
[06:57] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:57] <greennick> ardchoille:  ok...  i see those references in grub/menu.lst, i can make them relative references (root=/dev/sdc5) instead
[06:57] <jagcorvair> !botsnack
[06:57] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[06:58] <ananth123> brb... gotta reboot
[06:59] <greennick> ardchoille:  i don't know if it makes a difference, all my disks are SATA drives (but two of them also ran just fine before under dapper)
[06:59] <jagcorvair> daSkreech: Why does the Default Gateway always default to <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:59] <jagcorvair> ?
[06:59] <greennick> the super-weird part is that i can't boot even my old disks now
[07:00] <daSkreech> Dunno how do you have your network setup? DHCP?
[07:00] <jagcorvair> DHCP Automatic
[07:06] <kirk> Hey people
[07:08] <klobster> !hi
[07:08] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[07:08] <Tw|sT> :)
[07:11] <jagcorvair> daSkreech: Troubleshooting is for the PCMCIA cards. This is an internal card
[07:11] <daSkreech> jagcorvair: Works the same way. try the troubleshooting guide
[07:15] <StygianAgenda> the services here just work differently for linking than what I'm used to (espernet IRC services)
[07:20] <File13_> i installed my nividia graphics driver but where do i go to enable it so i can use beryl
[07:20] <File13_> on gnome it came up and said restricted driver manager but i dont see anything like that
[07:23] <esper] > hello
[07:23] <esper] > does anyone know how i can get my usb head set working?
[07:24] <daSkreech> Jucato: ummm
[07:24] <daSkreech> ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[07:24] <djdarkman> File13_: you need to install beryl first
[07:25] <djdarkman> esper] : never heard of usb headsets and why it`s good :)
[07:25] <jagcorvair> daSkreech: Followed the troubleshooting link. It didn't work. I cannot do anything wireless
[07:27] <File13_> i installed beryl
[07:28] <Jucato> !nvidia
[07:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:28] <File13_> i already installed them...i just need to know how to enable it
[07:29] <Jucato> try System Settings -> Monitor & Display -> Hardware tab?
[07:29] <nzk> Why must I be tortured so? Firefox is the third app to suddenly stop working. First it was Liferea, and then Pidgin. When I type the command to open them, the loading thing next to the cursor shows and then it just disappears. The programs never open.
[07:29] <Jucato> that happens to me sometimes with Firefox too. usually the 2nd or 3rd time I try really runs it
[07:30] <Jucato> nzk: have you tried Akregator?
[07:30] <purpleposeidon> A gtk program stoll my mouse... :(
[07:30] <Jucato> I tried Liferea during my short stint in GNOME... I ended up using Akregator in GNOME :)
[07:30] <daSkreech> jagcorvair: where does it fail ?
[07:31] <purpleposeidon> the cursor looks like an L with a + in it. And when I run xkill, it says unable to grab cursor
[07:31] <BigDaddy> WOOT1
[07:31] <nzk> Jucato: That's not the point. It's that my most used programs are dropping like flies.
[07:31] <nzk> I could deal with switching to Akregator, and I was hesistant but switched to Kopete. But Konquerer is where I draw the line. I will NOT use that.
[07:31] <daSkreech> nzk: open them from the konsole
[07:31] <jagcorvair> daSkreech: 28%
[07:31] <purpleposeidon> nzk: run them from the command line first, see what the ouput says for them
[07:31] <jagcorvair> Initializing
[07:31] <Daisuke_Laptop> or just use gnome :)
[07:31] <Daisuke_Laptop> >_>
[07:31] <daSkreech> Jucato: Why?
[07:31] <Daisuke_Laptop> <_<
[07:32] <nzk> purpleposeidon: No output.
[07:32] <BigDaddy> ardchoille - took me an hour but I got it
[07:32] <purpleposeidon> okay, irritating. I have mostly no mouse....
[07:32] <daSkreech> jagcorvair: Oh is it an open point?
[07:32] <wers> Jucato is backkk
[07:32] <jagcorvair> daSkreech: No wireless network found. Click on "Connect ot Other Wireless Network..."?
[07:32] <purpleposeidon> nzk: try reinstalling them...
[07:32] <nzk> purpleposeidon: I did that.
[07:32] <jagcorvair> This is where I am stuck at 28% every time
[07:32] <Jucato> daSkreech: why what? where?
[07:33] <daSkreech> Jucato: Why didn't you use Lifera?
[07:33] <BigDaddy> oh, he's gone
[07:33] <jagcorvair> daSkreech: open point?
[07:33] <nzk> They all have the same problems -- They're all GTK apps that suddenly died, have no output at console, nothing with ltrace, and cannot be reincarnated by reinstalling.
[07:33] <daSkreech> It's your fault!
[07:33] <BigDaddy> Well, to anyone who cares. I got my printer to work even though they said it was a paperweight
[07:33] <daSkreech> jagcorvair: does it have a password?
[07:33] <Jucato> daSkreech:  <Jucato> I tried Liferea during my short stint in GNOME...   I forgot. that was last year
[07:35] <Jucato> sooo last year
[07:35] <esper] > anyone know how i can check if a usb head set is even detected?
[07:36] <jagcorvair> daSkreech: Nope. No password
[07:36] <Jucato> daSkreech: ah I think I remember one. it didn't have an embedded web browser in it. so if the feed only posted summaries, I still have to launch a browser
[07:36] <Jucato> I think
[07:36] <Daisuke_Laptop> esper] : check your mixer and see if it shows up in the devices
[07:36] <Daisuke_Laptop> my logitech does
[07:36] <daSkreech> jagcorvair: Put one on. No idea but that makes it work
[07:36] <daSkreech> You can take it off afterwards
[07:36] <BigDaddy> Since I am on a roll, is there a way to better organize the KDE menus? Is it all text based or is there an app?
[07:36] <esper] > Daisuke_Laptop: how exactly do i do that?
[07:37] <Daisuke_Laptop> esper] : open kmix
[07:37] <Jucato> BigDaddy: right-click on the K Menu icon,
[07:37] <daSkreech> Jucato: Ugh. no Gparts?
[07:37] <Jucato> daSkreech: no Bonobo
[07:37] <Daisuke_Laptop> (it should already be in your tray, the volume control)
[07:37] <BigDaddy> damn, that can't be right
[07:37] <BigDaddy> Jucato - come on. There must be a difficult way to do this. I am from Windows man
[07:38] <Jucato> BigDaddy: um.. you can try.. um...
[07:38] <BigDaddy> Do I need to roll chicken bones?
[07:38] <Jucato> no can't think of anything :D
[07:38] <daSkreech> BigDaddy: call Microsoft's Support line and get help in less than 4 minutes
[07:39] <BigDaddy> Ya know, I have been trying to switch to linux (any flavor) for years. These past 3 days have been a blast
[07:39] <esper] > Daisuke_Laptop: ok its detected and i turned up the sound.
[07:39] <Jucato> BigDaddy: goat sacrifice would be ok
[07:39] <esper] > Daisuke_Laptop: thanks, now hwo do i get output to the headset?
[07:39] <BigDaddy> daSkreech - 4 minutes? The sixties weren't kind to you were they?
[07:39] <daSkreech> You wanted a challenge
[07:39] <BigDaddy> OH OH! That was the challenge!
[07:40] <BigDaddy> Now I am with ya. That is not a challenge. That is what we call an improbability
[07:40] <Daisuke_Laptop> esper] : i'm not using kde right now, so i'm kinda guessing here...  there should be 'preferences; or something in one of the menus
[07:40] <esper] > im not using kde either, using xmonad
[07:40] <BigDaddy> Actually I think the Windows help manual is printed on a Mobius strip
[07:41] <Daisuke_Laptop> all it says is "reboot, reformat, reinstall"
[07:41] <Daisuke_Laptop> esper] : then i can probably not help
[07:42] <esper] > hrmm
[07:42] <esper] > do you know how i can find the device name for it?
[07:42] <esper] > so i can force the systemsettings sound manager to point to it?
[07:42] <jagcorvair> daSkreech: When trying to set it up, it gets stuck at 28%. Activation Stage: Configuring device
[07:43] <WaltzingAlong> jagcorvair: the percentage is probably not the way to go since there are discrete steps involved
[07:44] <daSkreech> jagcorvair: Put a wep password on the AP
[07:44] <BigDaddy> OOhh I got one for you guys. How about a graphical configuration tool for multibutton mice?
[07:44] <jagcorvair> in process
[07:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> that would be nice
[07:46] <BigDaddy> Oh, you mean I stumped them?
[07:46] <Daisuke_Laptop> the mouse i got for my laptop is a logitech that has the tilt wheel...  the tilt didn't work without a hack
[07:46] <BigDaddy> damn, that would have been handy.
[07:46] <BigDaddy> I just like the back & forward buttons in my file manager
[07:48] <BigDaddy> hmmm.... OOo doesn't want to leave my system
[07:49] <jagcorvair> That didn't work, daSkreech
[07:49] <daSkreech> jagcorvair: Hmm..
[07:49] <daSkreech> jagcorvair: You can probably connect on the command line to test it
[07:50] <jagcorvair> daSkreech: Tried that. Still no luck
[07:50] <daSkreech> What did you try on the command line?
[07:51] <jagcorvair> daSkreech: Just about everything I found in the wiki
[07:52] <BigDaddy> Since Synaptic is a GNOME app, what does Kubuntu use?
[07:52] <daSkreech> !adept
[07:52] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[07:53] <Jucato> eeek!
[07:53] <BigDaddy> not a fan Jucato?
[07:53] <daSkreech> jagcorvair: does iwlist eth1 scan give you a response now?
[07:53] <Jucato> BigDaddy: let's just say I have a love/hate relationship with it
[07:53] <BigDaddy> So far I am prefering the KDE experience by a long shot
[07:54] <BigDaddy> GNOME is easier, but KDE is beautiful
[07:54] <Jucato> in some ways, I would prefer to use even KPackage over Adept..
[07:55] <Jucato> too bad it's unmaintained...
[07:55] <daSkreech> Jucato: Kynaptic!
[07:55] <BigDaddy> lol, what is Kynaptic?
[07:55] <daSkreech> BigDaddy: Jucato just explained
[07:56] <BigDaddy> lol, it's vomit eh?
[07:56] <jagcorvair> none
[07:56] <Jucato> BigDaddy: an attempt to make Synaptic clone for KDE... or so it seems
[07:56] <BigDaddy>  BIT POINTLESS
[07:56] <BigDaddy> oops
[07:56] <BigDaddy> orry
[07:56] <Jucato> no caps please :)
[07:56] <BigDaddy> sorry
[07:56] <Jucato> ts alright
[07:56] <Jucato> it's alright
[07:57] <BigDaddy> yeah, I accidently hit the cool cruise control
[07:57] <daSkreech> jagcorvair: So what are you connecting to on the GUI?
[07:58] <jagcorvair> I am on the desktop. My laptop has nothing.
[07:59] <pillowpants> have any of you used slackware before?
[07:59] <daSkreech> Oh the desktop can see the Wifi?
[07:59] <Smorg> anyone here try importing a bookmarks list from an ntfs partition?
[07:59] <BigDaddy> Smorg, from what app?
[08:00] <BigDaddy> firefox?
[08:09] <trixon> Hi, how do I get gimp 2.2 in swedish? I know it's tranlated and menu: Help - Help shows swedish info, but not the UI.
[08:10] <pag> trixon, you should probably install some gnome's lanaguage packs
[08:11] <pag> trixon, sudo apt-get install language-pack-gnome-sv  ?
[08:13] <Smorg> yep ff
[08:16] <rick__> hi, i'm using ubuntu for first time
[08:16] <daSkreech> !hi
[08:16] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[08:16] <daSkreech> rick__: Welcome to Kubuntu
[08:17] <rick__> thanks, somebody  know about web sites where i can get software?
[08:17] <pag> !repos | rick__
[08:17] <ubotu> rick__: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:17] <trixon> pag: ty, it did not work, had to install language-pack-sv too, its all ok now :)
[08:18] <pag> trixon, ok. I'm glad to hear that :)
[08:18] <daSkreech> rick__: Click on the K in the lower left corner and click on Add/remove programs
[08:19] <rick__> i already did that, but i;'m looking for smething to get a better apperiance
[08:19] <daSkreech> Ah new themes?
[08:20] <rick__> yes new themes, me splash screen.. and all about that
[08:20] <pag> rick__, http://kde-look.org for new themes :)
[08:20] <daSkreech> !themes
[08:20] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[08:20] <rick__> thanks for your help :-)
[08:21] <rick__> so, what news about free software??
[08:21] <daSkreech> !news
[08:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about news - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:21] <daSkreech> Drat :)
[08:21] <daSkreech> there is the dot
[08:21] <daSkreech> http://dot.kde.org
[08:21] <daSkreech> Lxer
[08:22] <daSkreech> http://lxer.com
[08:22] <pag> rick__, fridge.ubuntu.com - dot.kde.org - linux.com - linux.slashdot.org etc...
[08:22] <rick__> look i'm from peru, and the microsoft cancer is for everywhere
[08:23] <Jucato> !away > Arv3n
[08:23] <daSkreech> glad to hear
[08:24] <rick__> dakSkreech, are you using Windows?
[08:24] <daSkreech> No
[08:25] <rick__> ah ok
[08:25] <rick__> what linux ?
[08:25] <daSkreech> Kubuntu
[08:25] <Biovore> deerrrr
[08:25] <Biovore> :-P
[08:25] <rick__> good
[08:25] <rick__> you know about Richard Stallman?
[08:25] <daSkreech> Biovore: you'd be surprised if you took a poll how few people in here use Kubuntu
[08:26] <daSkreech> !info vrms
[08:26] <ubotu> vrms: virtual Richard M. Stallman. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.12 (feisty), package size 11 kB, installed size 108 kB
[08:26] <daSkreech> !stallman
[08:26] <ubotu> rms is Richard Matthew Stallman, founder of the GNU project. See !gnu and also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman
[08:26] <daSkreech> I do now :)
[08:27] <rick__> he was in my country about 2 or 3 weeks
[08:27] <daSkreech> :-D
[08:28] <ananth123> how/where do i set the default compile options ? for march etc ??? is there a make.conf ?
[08:28] <daSkreech> ananth123: calm down there. What now?
[08:28] <rick__> and he spoke some interesting things
[08:28] <Lopin> I'm having some problems with the live disk booting...
[08:28] <Lopin> It's stalling when the kubuntu logo pops up...
[08:28] <ananth123> ok, i need to add the option -march while compiling any program automatically
[08:29] <ananth123> is there an easier way to do it that to manually add it ?
[08:29] <Lopin> !hang
[08:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hang - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:30] <Lopin> !hanging
[08:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hanging - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:30] <Lopin> !boot
[08:30] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[08:30] <pag> Lopin, try to launch without " quiet splash" -options and see, if it gives any reasonable error
[08:30] <pillowpants> does anyone here use swiftweasel?
[08:30] <Lopin> Okay...  Thanks!
[08:30] <daSkreech> Lopin: try safe graphics
[08:30] <daSkreech> pillowpants: Which one is that again?
[08:31] <pag> Lopin, or if it doesn't you'll at least will know when exactly it's hanging
[08:31] <pillowpants> it think its an optimized build of firefox
[08:31] <pillowpants> but im asking to find out for sure
[08:31] <Lopin> Okay...  What's happening is that when the Kubuntu logo with the progress bar pops up, it just stops, so I think the quiet, and splash may show me what's going on...
[08:31] <Lopin> I come back, will someone help me?
[08:31] <pag> pillowpants, swiftweasel is 100% free optimised version of FF
[08:31] <pag> Lopin, I'll help the best I can
[08:32] <Lopin> There's also IceWeasel...  But I only saw that on Knoppix 5...
[08:32] <Lopin> BRB...
[08:32] <pillowpants> pag: what use does it serve?
[08:33] <pillowpants> i read its easier to get flash to install, using a script made by kilz
[08:33] <pillowpants> which is why im giving it a try
[08:33] <pag> pillowpants, well.. it's supposed to be faster than normal Firefox..
[08:33] <daSkreech> pillowpants: that sounds spurious
[08:33] <pillowpants> daSkreech : what do you mean by spurious
[08:34] <daSkreech> plain wrong :)
[08:34] <Lynoure> I know this channel is for support for the released versions, but if any of you upgraded to gutsy already, could you msg me how you did it?
[08:34] <pag> pillowpants, usually those automatic scripts only lead to problems
[08:34] <Lynoure> (no one active on #ubuntu+1 seems to use Kubuntu)
[08:34] <daSkreech> Lynoure: change the words feisty to gutsy in your sources.lst
[08:35] <daSkreech> Lynoure: they don't need to it's the same way to upgrade for all versions
[08:35] <pillowpants> im willing to try it, getting it to work on my own will invariably lead to more problems
[08:35] <Lynoure> daSkreech: I tried to follow instructions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon/Tribe4/Kubuntu
[08:35] <daSkreech> ah
[08:35] <daSkreech> right
[08:35] <pag> Lynoure, iirc Adept now has a fancy tool for dist-upgrades...but otoh it's Adept, so I'd suggest the text-based way
[08:35] <Lynoure> daSkreech: and that terminated in the middle of the first step (preparing for upgrade)
[08:40] <BigDaddy> you know, I still haven't started modifying this KDE menu. IS there a way to reset it if I screw up?
[08:41] <daSkreech> BigDaddy: I never looked at an export for my menu...
[08:41] <pag> BigDaddy, yup. you'll just have to remove one file (I can't remember which one though) and it's back to defaults
[08:41] <newphaze> why my gimp work is 50MB?
[08:42] <BigDaddy> Remove on file in my profile and it restores the menu? I can probably google that
[08:42] <daSkreech> newphaze: is it saaved as Gimps file format?
[08:43] <newphaze> daSkreech: wont even let me save. Tells me " could nott allocate memory"
[08:43] <daSkreech> newphaze: How much space do you have free on the HDD?
[08:44] <newphaze> daSkreech: A LOT
[08:45] <pag> newphaze, how about your RAM?
[08:45] <newphaze> 512MB
[08:46] <streppel> heya
[08:46] <Lopin> pog: okay...
[08:46] <Lopin> It's still not working...
[08:46] <newphaze> I've put several images on  my blaank page then I've merged all layers
[08:46] <Lopin> I need to know why I can't use 64 bit, on my Turion64...
[08:46] <pag> Lopin, hmm.. you got any errors?
[08:47] <pag> Lopin, any reason, why you want to use 64bit?
[08:48] <Lopin> Well, should I not?  I was given a 32 bit copy of vista...
[08:48] <streppel> my compiz is running*smiles*    now i'd like to know how i can set the button that activates the shift switcher
[08:48] <Lopin> I'm sorry...  I'm still new...
[08:48] <streppel> i tryed klicking on the position but it dosn't seem to work :/
[08:48] <Lopin> Is there any reason to use 64 bit, though?
[08:48] <daSkreech> Lopin: You can if you want to. things which are closed source will be a headache
[08:48] <daSkreech> Like java and Flash
[08:48] <Lopin> Hmm...  Okay...
[08:48] <daSkreech> hopefully both will be open source soon
[08:49] <Lopin> So, will the 32 bit work slower on a 64 bit processor?
[08:49] <Lopin> I don't know what 64 bit is actually like..
[08:49] <pag> Lopin, 32bit is easier, and since there're no significant dpeed differences, I wouldn't really reccomend 64bit
[08:49] <daSkreech> Lopin: more efficent, more registers so you can use more RAM, you sound sexier with more bits
[08:49] <newphaze> oh it worked now
[08:49] <Lopin> Okay...
[08:49] <daSkreech> Lopin: not really slower. just less efficent
[08:49] <Lopin> Will I notice a difference?
[08:49] <newphaze> but why is my image 50MB? I want it like a few kilobits
[08:50] <newphaze> less than a 3 megs
[08:50] <daSkreech> Lopin: I guess if you look for it
[08:50] <daSkreech> newphaze: save for the web
[08:50] <pag> Lopin, only if you do 3D rendering or something like that - yu won't in everyday use
[08:50] <newphaze> I cannot upload 50MB on an email
[08:50] <newphaze> daSkreech: I saved as  PNG
[08:50] <Lopin> Heh...  Okays...
[08:50] <pag> newphaze, save it as .jpg?
[08:50] <newphaze> I weant png
[08:52] <Lopin> Okay... I can't remember, does the installer resize partitions?
[08:52] <Lopin> Or, do I have to do that in windows first?
[08:53] <Jalathan> Does anyone know if wvdial's "Carrier check = no" command can be translated/transferred to kppp?
[08:53] <daSkreech> Lopin: either. Whichever you are more comfortable with
[08:53] <pag> Lopin, if you have Vista, you might want to resize from Windows - otherwise you can do it from livecd
[08:53] <Lopin> Okay...
[08:54] <newphaze> oh actually it did save it as png but now is 150kb and horrible quality!!!
[08:54] <emilsedgh> Jalathan: I think thats 'Check for dial tone' option in kppp
[08:54] <newphaze> and I can't  undo  cause I closed GIMP
[08:54] <newphaze> is it possible to decompress png image?
[08:54] <newphaze> or is pretty much undoable?
[08:55] <Biovore> png is lossless compression
[08:55] <newphaze> oh never mind
[08:55] <daSkreech> Biovore: umm no I'ts lossy isn't it?
[08:55] <newphaze> it wasn't  zoomed to its original size
[08:55] <pillowpants> i cant seem to get this shell script to run
[08:56] <newphaze> it's fine now!! and only 150kb !!
[08:56] <daSkreech> Nope it's lossless
[08:56] <pillowpants> in kde there doesnt seem to be a double click + run in terminal
[08:56] <Biovore> there is an action option I think..
[08:56] <newphaze> WOW I'm a pro
[08:57] <newphaze> how can I make a video guide like the ones in youtube? I don't want lameass webcam type
[08:58] <newphaze> I'd like direct screen recording
[08:58] <Biovore> you mean a screencast?
[08:58] <newphaze> yeah
[08:58] <newphaze> something like that
[08:58] <Biovore> krecordmydesktop is cool
[08:58] <Biovore> or istanbul
[08:58] <Biovore> !istanbul
[08:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about istanbul - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:58] <newphaze> which one is beeter?
[08:58] <Biovore> well istanbul is installable from repos on feisty..
[08:58] <Biovore> krecordmydesktop is only on gusty..
[08:59] <Biovore> I like krecordmydesktop better..
[08:59] <Lopin> Why is there not enough room on a half full hard disk, to create a five gig partition?
[08:59] <Biovore> but it dosn't grab 3d well..
[08:59] <Lopin> I've got thrty gigs!
[08:59] <Biovore> doing something wrong
[09:00] <newphaze> Biovore: that's aight, just need to record some website instructions
[09:00] <newphaze> can I add voice?
[09:00] <newphaze> I have a USB mic
[09:00] <streppel> how can i set a button combination with tab in ccsm?
[09:01] <streppel> nvm doubleclicking the name and writing xD
[09:09] <veddie> can i say something in thechannel?
[09:09] <veddie> ok, good.
[09:09] <gustavo> :)
[09:11] <emilsedgh> I have a package for krecordmydesktop, anyone wants?
[09:13] <streppel> i have one,too :P
[09:14] <newphaze> krecordmydesktop looks     cool. But why is only for Gutsby? I need it for Fesity
[09:15] <newphaze> by the way the name is tooooooooooo long
[09:15] <newphaze> and it s hardly a name is an entire sentence
[09:16] <newphaze> this would me more appropiate: kdeshot
[09:17] <kkathman> newphaze:  "this would me more.."   might need to work on your own sentences :)
[09:17] <streppel> how to run a specified progrom on a new xserver?
[09:17] <kkathman> streppel:  what program are you trying to run?
[09:18] <streppel> a game with cedega
[09:18] <streppel> but as i'm running compiz at the same time it doesn't start up
[09:18] <streppel> do i need a new x where it can run,not?
[09:18] <kkathman> stop compiz I dunno - I see no need for windows proggies :)
[09:19] <streppel> games :P
[09:19] <kkathman> bah
[09:22] <streppel> :/
[09:22] <streppel> anarchy onlines runs better under lin then win *lolz*
[09:30] <streppel> mhh...... my game works now :D
[09:44] <kirk> !nvu
[09:44] <ubotu> kompozer is a WYSIWYG HTML editor for easily creating web pages, and the continuation of the dead Nvu project.  It will be in the Ubuntu repos for 7.10 ("gutsy"); meanwhile for other versions add the following to your /etc/apt/sources.list:  "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/tonyyarusso/ubuntu {edgy,feisty} universe"  (pick your release and list it without brackets, and no quotes)
[09:46] <Phlogi> I've downloaded the kubuntu dvd, do I need to take care when I burn the iso (on linux of course) so that the dvd is bootable afterwards?
[09:49] <normie_> hello people
[09:50] <kirk> hi
[09:50] <normie_> has anyone succesfully configured their broadcom 1390 wireless card?
[09:51] <normie_> it works with opensuse and ndiswrapper, but i can't seem to get it work with kubuntu
[09:54] <normie_> hello
[09:55] <kirk> !ADEPT
[09:55] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[09:55] <kirk> In Adept when it says BROKEN under status, what does that mean?
[09:55] <ag_> wie bekommt man den skype unter kubuntu wieder los. das ding erscheint in keinem programmpaket
[09:56] <Jucato> !de | ag_
[09:56] <ubotu> ag_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:56] <streppel> :P
[09:58] <Jucato> kirk: it means that what you're trying to do could potentially cause some problems. try using the apt-get command to see more details
[09:58] <BigDaddy> ugh, Opera blows
[09:59] <BigDaddy> Don't quite get why that one is so popular
[09:59] <normie_> has anyone succesfully configured their broadcom 1390 wireless card?
[10:00] <ag_> how do in uninstall skype ?
[10:00] <emilsedgh> normie_: yes :)
[10:00] <emilsedgh> normie_: I have it, working so nice, with ndiswrapper
[10:00] <normie_> well i tried the manual but nothing
[10:01] <emilsedgh> normie_: do you have ndiswrapper?
[10:01] <normie_> yes
[10:02] <emilsedgh> normie_: and, do you have the driver? is it .EXE ?
[10:02] <normie_> yep
[10:02] <BigDaddy> you have a driver in EXE format?
[10:02] <emilsedgh> normie_: and you extracted it? thats a ZIP file in fact...you could open and extract it with ark
[10:02] <normie_> i even added the bcm4311 to the blacklist
[10:02] <BigDaddy> you don't see anything wrong with that?
[10:03] <normie_> i extracted it with wine
[10:03] <BigDaddy> oh
[10:03] <emilsedgh> normie_: ndiswrapper -l whats the ourput?
[10:03] <emilsedgh> s/ourput/output
[10:05] <normie_> bcmwl5 : driver installed
[10:06] <normie_>         device (14E4:4311) present (alternate driver: bcm43xx)
[10:07] <emilsedgh> dunno really, i easily setup my 1390 to work, do you want that i upload my driver that you try it?
[10:07] <emilsedgh> normie_: ^
[10:08] <normie_> wel i have a hp laptop
[10:08] <normie_> i works when i installed opensuse
[10:08] <normie_> but i want kubuntu :-)
[10:09] <emilsedgh> normie_: i have a dell :), shouldnt really be important
[10:10] <normie_> i have no idea what i'm doing wrong
[10:20] <kgx> !medibuntu
[10:20] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[10:20] <kgx> !mediabuntu
[10:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mediabuntu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:28] <newphaze> anybody know a ancient latin channel?
[10:28] <newphaze> lol
[10:34] <kirk> Is there any cellphone tools for linux
[10:34] <kirk> Like Motorola Phone Tools
[10:35] <kirk> !phone
[10:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about phone - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:35] <kirk> !cellphone
[10:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cellphone - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:35] <Harpi> hi everybody
[10:35] <kirk> !motorola
[10:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about motorola - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:37] <Smorg> !ntfs
[10:37] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[10:37] <Smorg> !ntfs-3g
[10:37] <Smorg> !fuse
[10:37] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[10:37] <ubotu> FUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) is a !kernel driver that allows non-root users to create their own filesystems. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE.  Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here:  http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems
[10:38] <Harpi> I have upgraded my kubuntu from 6.06 to edgy 6.10 bu i'm experiencing troubles .... it doesn't want to boot... it just displays the Kubuntu screen loader (not kde) and then freezes
[10:38] <kirk> !kmobiletools
[10:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kmobiletools - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:38] <Harpi> does anyone has any idea or experienced the same problem ?
[10:39] <edward> how do you reboot without rebooting your hardware?  (so Your HD doesn't power off?)
[10:41] <Harpi> it boots indeed ....the hardware boots, grubs purpose me to choose ... then I chose to start with Kubuntu .... it displays me the screen loader of Kubuntu
[10:41] <Harpi> and then nothing
[10:42] <Ilokaasu> Harpi: try pressing alt+f1 and see whats wrong or reboot and choose recovery mode and check what goes wrong after you type startx
[10:43] <Harpi> i already tried alt+f1 .... no response .... it's freeezed
[10:43] <Harpi> everything was alright with 6.06
[10:44] <Don_jr__> Hello, I have my system dual booted, vista on one side, kubuntu on the other, how can I remove kubuntu and get rid of it completely??
[10:46] <Don_jr__> Can anyone tell me how to remove kubuntu from my box?
[10:47] <Phlogi> I've downloaded the kubuntu dvd, do I need to take care when I burn the iso (on linux of course) so that the dvd is bootable afterwards?
[10:47] <shockdiode> sudo rm -rf /
[10:48] <Don_jr__> shockdiode will that uninstall everything? including the grub so my windows side will boot normally?
[10:49] <shockdiode> you'll still have to select the option to boot into windows
[10:49] <shockdiode> it's probably a bad idea to do what i suggested
[10:49] <emilsedgh> Don_jr__: to uninstall grub, you have to repair your windows by its cd
[10:49] <shockdiode> yes, listen to him
[10:50] <Don_jr__> emilsedgh I've tried that, ended up having to reinstall kubuntu cause windows wouldn't load at all, said it couldnt' find grub and stopped there
[10:50] <emilsedgh> Don_jr__: I have no experience with this, I have no windows and I never removed my gnu/linux, but I think you have to put your windows cd, repair your installation, then remove the kubuntu partition
[10:50] <Don_jr__> tried to 'repair' from mhy install CD and said it found nothing to repair
[10:51] <Don_jr__> I can remove the partitions easy enough, but that doesn't stop my boot sector from trying to find grub for some reason. not sure how to do that part
[10:52] <emilsedgh> Don_jr__: ask windows support, windows replair can bring windows boot manager
[10:52] <shockdiode> check this thread out, google is your friend ;) : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=238525
[10:52] <Don_jr__> shockdiode thanks, I'll dig through it
[10:58] <Huey> how can i prevent the libata modules from loading, and have the kernel use the ide-generic module instead?
[10:58] <Huey> (i think i'm experiencing huge performance penalties because of the libata stuff)
[11:00] <Stinkfly> hello
[11:02] <digi> eject in amorok doesnt work for my ipod can anyone help me with this?
[11:03] <Stinkfly> bye
[11:04] <emilsedgh> digi: is it listed on /media?
[11:05] <digi> yea
[11:05] <digi> IPOD
[11:06] <digi> amarok reads it just fine, but it cant eject it
[11:07] <digi> I read this should work, but it doesnt  gnome-mount -t --eject --device %d
[11:07] <Smorg> !firewall
[11:07] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[11:08] <Smorg> wheres guarddog?
[11:09] <Smorg> repository?
[11:10] <waylandbill> digi: The ipod should appear on the desktop. Right click it and 'safely remove'
[11:11] <shockdiode> huey: i'd like an answer to this one too, I've just been living with it as everything works ok but I don't understand remapping ide stuff to scsi
[11:11] <shockdiode> perhaps this is a different issue than yours but it's really been bumming me out since feisty
[11:12] <waylandbill> Smorg: yes.
[11:12] <waylandbill> !info guarddog
[11:12] <ubotu> guarddog: firewall configuration utility for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.0-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 476 kB, installed size 1424 kB
[11:12] <Smorg> hm
[11:13] <Smorg> doesn't show up :-/
[11:13] <Smorg> in add/remove progs
[11:15] <waylandbill> Smorg: use Adept.
[11:17] <RurouniJones> Is there a way to get Thunderbird to minimise to the icon list on the right hand side of the kubuntu panel? (Like amarok and Konversation)
[11:17] <digi> I got it
[11:18] <digi> if anyone is curious the line that works with amarok is gnome-mount -t --eject --device /dev/disk/by-label/IPOD
[11:18] <digi> :) time for breakfast and a beer, catch ya on the flip side
[11:19] <shockdiode> does anyone know how to get feisty to recognise ide drives as /dev/hd* instead of /dev/sd* ?
[11:19] <shockdiode> the scsi emulation is unneccesary and bumming me out
[11:19] <waylandbill> Huey: blacklist the one and modprobe the other.
[11:19] <aryr100> hello all
[11:20] <Huey> waylandbill: how do i blacklist a kernel module?
[11:20] <aryr100> what is the cmd for sudo gedit in kde ?
[11:20] <shockdiode> makes my dvd drive on my laptop perform poorly
[11:20] <waylandbill> Huey: see /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist file for details.
[11:21] <shockdiode> do you just need to blacklist the sg stuff?
[11:21] <waylandbill> shockdiode: dvd burner?
[11:21] <shockdiode> no dvd reader cdrw
[11:21] <waylandbill> aryr100: kdesu kate
[11:21] <shockdiode> throughput on hd seems fine
[11:22] <shockdiode> but dvd/cdrw behaves poorly sometimes
[11:22] <aryr100> kk thx
[11:22] <waylandbill> shockdiode: it's a burner of some sort. Gotcha. That has scsi emulation or otherwise you couldn't burn with it.
[11:22] <Huey> so disabling scsi_mod should ensure i use the correct ide drivers, right?
[11:22] <shockdiode> right, but previously under the old scheme it worked fine
[11:22] <Huey> is there the possibility of it not loading ide-generic on the next reboot?
[11:23] <shockdiode> right so i don't want to get rid of the sg stuff
[11:23] <waylandbill> Huey: I don't know if disabling scsi_mod will ensure anything gets used. Never did it.
[11:24] <shockdiode> i can live with it but it's just odd that after feisty and all drives being recognised as sd* it started behaving strangely
[11:24] <waylandbill> Huey: perhaps someone on #linux knows more about the modules and how they function.
[11:24] <Huey> waylandbill: but it should prevent libata from being loaded, right?
[11:24] <Huey> waylandbill: ah, thanks
[11:25] <Huey> if i blacklist scsi_mod, will the kernel automatically load ide-generic upon the next boot?