[00:07] <oo> I see, it's an unfixed bug: http://askubuntu.com/questions/17252/audio-cds-will-not-auto-mount-correctly
[00:09] <oo> I can play it via vlc and mplayer but can't open it via pcmanfm
[00:23] <oo> Hey, renaming short-cuts on the desktop does not do anything, any reason why?
[05:38] <Stew_822> Hello :D
[05:39] <Stew_822> I was wondering, just about how much does the lubuntu installer download when it installs the updates?
[05:39] <Stew_822> Is it in the realm of hundreds of mb?
[05:40] <Stew_822> Because, for me, the max is about 30mb because of a) slow connection b) stupid internet limit
[05:40] <Stew_822> Nevermind, it's probably way too much
[05:41] <Stew_822> I'll just download it some other time
[05:41] <Unit193> If you skip it, you can always do it later
[05:41] <Stew_822> Oh cool :D
[05:41] <Stew_822> Uhh, how?
[05:41] <Stew_822> I'm more worried about the "third party" stuff
[05:41] <Unit193> Menu > System > Synaptic
[05:42] <Unit193> or if you like the CLI sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:42] <Stew_822> hehe I like the CLI
[05:42] <Unit193> Really? have you used linux before? (debian?)
[05:43] <Stew_822> What's the "third party" software package? What's it's name, do you know?
[05:43] <Stew_822> Yeah, the default gnome one, but then I kinda stuffed up the desktop somehow (i don't know why, but there was TWO wallpapers. I don't even know how tha's possible) and I wanted to switch to LXDE anyway
[05:44] <Stew_822> synaptic scares me
[05:45] <Stew_822> Thanks for your help :D
[05:46] <Unit193> Thirdparty = Canonical Partner Repositories
[05:48] <Stew_822> Thanks :D
[05:48] <Stew_822> I have one last question :]
[05:48] <Unit193> Sure!
[05:48] <Unit193> Shoot!
[05:49] <Stew_822> How do I tell the Lubuntu installer which partitions I want it to overwrite? I went to the "manually specify partitions" bit
[05:49] <Stew_822> ohhh hang on brb
[05:53] <Stew_822> ok ok I'm back :D
[05:53] <Stew_822> oh YAY someone fixed lxpanel!!! the one I used to have didn't work how I liked it :D
[05:54] <Stew_822> oh
[05:55] <Stew_822> I found it :)
[06:14] <Stew_822> I'd better be going now
[06:14] <Stew_822> thanks for all your help :]
[06:29] <UBuxuBU> good morning.
[06:29] <UBuxuBU> has anyone seen phillw?
[06:31] <Unit193> UBuxuBU: It's barely night! ;)
[06:31] <UBuxuBU> k
[06:32] <UBuxuBU> can u hurry it up a bit on natty plz
[06:33] <Unit193> Natty should be th 28th
[06:34]  * UBuxuBU shrugs...
[08:42] <ericy> .
[14:03] <sharkk>  hi there
[14:03] <sharkk> i'm a new user of lxde, just wanted to say hi and to ask which feedreader you use, tnx
[14:04] <bioterror> you mean like RSS?
[14:04] <sharkk> yes
[14:05] <bioterror> people tend to like conky, I think :D
[14:05] <sharkk> conky? is not a monitor of resources?
[14:06] <bioterror> it shows you what you want
[14:06] <bioterror> like weather and stuff
[14:06] <bioterror> http://how-to.wikia.com/wiki/How_to_add_an_RSS_feed_to_Conky/conky-rss.sh
[14:06] <sharkk> uh nice
[14:06] <sharkk> i was seeing sorry :P
[14:07] <sharkk> another question, i found cpu temperature monitor, cpu usage monitor, but not a memory monitor to put on the panel, do you know one?
[14:07] <bioterror> http://ricecows.org/slubuntu.png that's how I do it
[14:08] <sharkk> eh always conky
[14:08] <sharkk> i have to learn this one :)
[14:08] <bioterror> it's handy for that kind of stuff, somehow I want to keep my panel simple
[14:09] <sharkk> ok, many thanks to you bioterror :)
[14:10] <bioterror> there's so limited ammount of panel applets
[14:10] <bioterror> and good ones
[14:10] <bioterror> (I think that green cpu graph is horrible ;)
[14:11] <sharkk> yeah but with only a 10.1 display, having things on the desktop is not easy
[14:11] <bioterror> oh noe
[14:11] <bioterror> citrix connection lost
[14:12] <sharkk> especially when you use dual monitor at home and not outside
[14:12] <bioterror> I have 12" display ;)
[14:13] <sharkk> well, but untile yesterday i was used to a 17'' display it was strange :P
[18:50] <donniezazen> I am trying lubuntu Natty b1 but app indicator icons are missing
[18:52] <bioterror> you mean "system tray"?
[18:53] <donniezazen> ya
[18:54] <bioterror> nothing new :D
[18:54] <bioterror> keep updating ;)
[18:54] <bioterror> it might get fixed
[18:54] <donniezazen> hmmm
[18:54] <bioterror> it's a known bug
[18:54] <donniezazen> ok
[18:54] <donniezazen> thanks
[18:55] <donniezazen> would installing lots of heaviweight software on lubuntu defy the purpose of whole light weight thing
[18:55] <donniezazen> like libreoffice etc
[18:55] <bioterror> those apps are just some heavier
[18:56] <bioterror> is libreoffice in the repos yet?
[18:56] <donniezazen> i think so
[18:57] <bioterror> I'll do release upgrade
[18:57] <bioterror> this 10.10 is too stable
[19:00] <donniezazen> i have not had any problem with natty b1 lubuntu
[19:00] <Unit193> LibreOffice is in Natty repos
[19:01] <bioterror> upgrading atm. ;)
[19:02] <bioterror> oeh noe
[19:02] <bioterror> our guests are arriving
[19:02] <bioterror> disturbs my natty experiences :(
[19:03] <donniezazen> lol
[19:05] <donniezazen> So there are two softwares to make lxde look good
[19:05] <donniezazen> appearances
[19:05] <donniezazen> and openbox configuiration manager
[19:05] <bioterror> if you put my picture as your background, your lxde looks really good then!
[19:06] <donniezazen> i do not want to scare kids
[19:06] <bioterror> lxappearance
[19:06] <bioterror> yes
[19:06] <bioterror> for gtk themes and other stuff
[19:09] <donniezazen> ok
[19:10] <donniezazen> does it have to be a open box gtk theme or any gtk theme
[19:19] <bioterror> hi sz
[19:19] <bioterror> I had a pictoday
[19:19] <bioterror> szczur, http://i.imgur.com/0hSS6.png ;)
[19:20] <szczur> sooooo true :)
[19:26] <bioterror> what
[19:26] <bioterror> lubuntu uses hal?!
[19:27] <bioterror> atleast I'm installing it
[19:31] <gilir> bioterror, maverick or natty ?
[19:32] <bioterror> natty
[19:33] <gilir> hum, it should not
[19:33] <bioterror> where did I get that...
[19:33] <gilir> try to remove it after the update
[19:33] <bioterror> yeah
[19:33] <bioterror> I'll clean my system
[19:33] <bioterror> even the creator of hal said it sucks
[19:36] <gilir> that's why everyone try to remove it :)
[19:36] <bioterror> I had to install it on my desktop becouse of xfburn
[19:42] <bioterror> hahaha
[19:42] <bioterror> upgraded hal and now it gets removed
[19:47] <bioterror> ou yeah
[19:48] <bioterror> battery and wlan icons are broken
[19:49] <bioterror> gilir, is there a fix for that yet?
[21:03] <gilir> bioterror, no, or you need to activate indicators applet
[21:11] <MrChrisDruif> Hiyas gilir :D
[21:24] <cyphermox> who takes care of lubuntu development? I'm curious about this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/753300  and whether nm-applet should be added to autostart as it's suggested. I just want to double-check ;)
[22:20] <Stew_822> Hello (again) :D
[22:20] <Stew_822> I was wondering if anyone knows of a automatic wallpaper changer that works in lubuntu?
[22:21] <MrChrisDruif> I thought Gnome was able to do that himself?
[22:21] <MrChrisDruif> How to created automated changing wallpapers is a bit more work
[22:21] <Unit193> Maybe wally?
[22:22] <Stew_822> cool i'll give it a try :D
[22:22] <Stew_822> The other two I tried failed completely
[22:34] <Unit193> Stew_822: Did the install go fine?
[22:34] <MrChrisDruif> Ow...was in Lubuntu...hehe
[22:34] <MrChrisDruif> Don't mind me Stew_822
[22:34] <MrChrisDruif> :P
[22:39] <klynch> using empathy instead of pidgin
[22:39] <klynch> synaptic wants to remove lubuntu desktop when i choose removal of pidgin?
[22:39] <klynch> pidgin never syncs with fb chat
[22:46] <Stew_822> klynch: I read somewhere that that's fine, to remove lubuntu-desktop
[22:47] <Stew_822> Unit193: I have a *very* slow internet :D
[22:47] <Stew_822> and it has to pull in the QT stuff
[22:48] <Unit193> And you don't even know if it will work...
[22:49] <Stew_822> hehe well I'd surely have to get the qt stuff eventually
[22:51] <Unit193> Stew_822: What's your current speed?
[22:52] <Stew_822> Unit193: Very very slow
[22:52] <Stew_822> It doesn't seem to be working
[22:52] <Stew_822> I don't think it supports OpenBox
[22:53] <Stew_822> wb
[22:53] <Brunoirs> thx
[22:56] <Unit193> The site says "KDE3, KDE4, Gnome, XFCE4, Fluxbox, Blackbox, FVWM (unstable), and WindowMaker"
[22:56] <Stew_822> yeah
[22:56] <Stew_822> I just read that :(
[22:57] <Unit193> Didn't know for sure if that would work (hence the "maybe" and ?)
[22:58] <Stew_822> yeah
[22:58] <Stew_822> don't worry I don't blame you matey
[22:58] <Stew_822> but I've gotta go now :P
[22:58] <Stew_822> thanks for your help :)
[22:58] <Unit193> Sorry I couldn't help... have a good one!
[22:59] <Stew_822> haha that's okay, you too! take care :D
[23:39] <Stew_822> Well I'm back again :D
[23:39] <Stew_822> Hello :D
[23:39] <Unit193> What's up?
[23:40] <Stew_822> Well yes I did actually join for a reason :D
[23:40] <Stew_822> Uhh I was wondering, how do I tell if I have a GPU?
[23:41] <Stew_822> I figured it'd tell me in the system benchmarky place but I can't see any text that says "YOU HAVE A GPU, BE HAPPY!!" so I figure I don't have one but you know, I thought I did
[23:44] <Unit193> lspci may tell (I don't have any computers with a GPU)
[23:46] <Stew_822> Haha yeah it's just confused me even more :D
[23:46] <Stew_822> thanks though
[23:46] <Unit193> Stew_822: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[23:47] <Unit193> Then you can do lspci |pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com
[23:48] <Stew_822> haha who would've thought that someone'd make something like that :D
[23:49] <Stew_822> http://pastebin.com/YqxAA30V
[23:49] <Stew_822> I don't think it's there though
[23:51] <Stew_822> oh my gosh
[23:51] <Stew_822> there it is
[23:51] <Stew_822> ATI radeon
[23:52] <Stew_822> cool as
[23:52] <Unit193> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ATI_Mobility_Radeon_7500
[23:52] <Unit193> http://www.notebookcheck.net/ATI-Mobility-Radeon-7500.6941.0.html
[23:53] <Unit193> Love the name of you're computer ;)
[23:54] <Stew_822> hehe thanks :D
[23:54] <Stew_822> it's really annoying in the terminal though
[23:54] <Stew_822> almost a whole line
[23:55] <Stew_822> with you know a couple of directories
[23:56] <Stew_822> Unit193: So does that mean I can use a compositing window manager without much of a drop in performance?
[23:58] <Unit193> Looks like you could try!
[23:59] <Unit193> On the thinkwiki site, go down to "3D Acceleration"


[07:51] <Corey> Hmm.  I have a checked out bazaar repo; how do I figure out what the upstream / origin / remote repo is?
[08:04] <fullermd> Check info.
[08:08] <lifeless> Corey: 'bzr info'
[08:12] <Corey> Thanks.
[08:12] <Corey> Much appreciated.
[12:02] <LeoNerd> If I have say, -r1 to -r100 on my trunk, then a branch adds a few more; then I make one more commit on the trunk, -r101 and replay that into the branch - Will a later rebase on the branch be able to cope with this, or will it get upset?
[12:02] <LeoNerd> I'm not sure I want to do the entire rebase operation -every- time I write a tiny oneline bugfix on trunk
[12:14] <gour> hello, curious what's new in bzr world...found the following http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8973636/what-problems-can-be-expected-with-bazaar-2-x-vcs where is says: "As of January 2012 you may observe the following restrictions...With bzr you'll be forced to use mainline concept of the history. I.e. the left-hand parent of the revision is special and forms mainline of your history, while your merged
[12:14] <gour> revisions make merged history. " is it really something new 'cause i believe it was present in bzr for quite some time, if not even from the beginning (by design) ?
[12:20] <LeoNerd> Pretty sure that's always been the case
[12:20] <LeoNerd> The lefthand parent is the one that is chosen as "canonical", for such purposes as numbering revisions
[12:20] <LeoNerd> So if -r100 is a merge revision, we know which one is -r99 vs which is the various parts of 100.1, 100.2, etc..
[13:55] <gour>  LeoNerd: yeah, i've the same opinion...but wonder why experienced bzr user says: "as of jan 2012..:"
[13:56] <gour> has something changed in regard to th points mentioned in http://zakalwe.fi/~shd/articles/why_not_bazaar.html ?
[13:59] <gour> e.g. 2.1?
[14:56] <gour> bzr docs (http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/migration/en/why-switch-to-bazaar.html#rename-tracking-and-smart-merging) says: "Rename Tracking and Smart Merging" while http://zakalwe.fi/~shd/articles/why_not_bazaar.html says "Bazaar's Merge Algorithm Is Incomplete" what is true today?
[16:51] <littlegirl> Hey there, I noticed an error in the Bazaar 2.6.0 User Guide. Is this a good place to mention it?
[16:54] <littlegirl> In the event that it is, the guide mentions the use of bzr add and bzr remove when it should be bzr add and bzr revert. An example is here: http://paste.kde.org/496202/
[16:55] <littlegirl> Scratch that. I just did bzr version and I'm not even using 2.6.0, so for all I know it works. (:
[17:32] <gour> bzr-git fails on github repo with "AttributeError: 'RemoteGitRepository' object has no attribute '_transport'" ?
[17:52] <gour> ahh..false alarm...i had some obsolete version of the plugin in ~/.bazaar
[20:11] <jelmer> gour: that has never been true
[20:11] <jelmer> gour: that article is very ignorant
[20:11] <jelmer> gour: bazaar has supported merging trees without common ancestors since its early days
[20:27] <gour>  jelmer:hmmm...it would be good to have some "counter-article" refuting that one...btw, congrats for bzr-git...i did import some repos today and it is quite speedy ;)
[20:28] <gour> jelmer: what about this info: "As of January 2012 you may observe the following restrictions..." (1st answer http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8973636/what-problems-can-be-expected-with-bazaar-2-x-vcs) ?
[20:33] <jelmer> gour: You're welcome to write a counter-article; I'm not sure if responding to all the nonsense on the internet is particularly useful...
[20:36] <jelmer> gour: those 3 restrictions are still present
[20:36] <gour> jelmer: excuse me...we had power outage here
[20:36] <gour> jelmer: but that's not something new
[20:37] <jelmer> 22:33 < jelmer> gour: You're welcome to write a counter-article; I'm not sure if responding to all the  nonsense on the internet is particularly useful...
[20:37] <jelmer> 22:36 < jelmer> gour: those 3 restrictions are still present
[20:38] <gour> :-)
[20:40] <lifeless> jelmer: gour: http://xkcd.com/386/
[20:40] <gour> lol
[20:41] <jelmer> lifeless: :)
[20:44] <gour> is there some roadmap for bzr after 2.6?