[00:35] <eltoozero> hi guys, trying to file a bug, need to figure out which package is appropriate, a little help?
[00:36] <jjohansen1> eltoozero: what kind of bug
[00:36] <eltoozero> bug #420363
[00:36] <ubot3> Malone bug 420363 in gnome-bluetooth "[eee 901][karmic]system freeze when toggling wifi while bluetooth disabled" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/420363
[00:37] <eltoozero> as you can see I originally filed as bluetooth
[00:37] <eltoozero> but it happens when wifi is toggled, but only after bt is toggled.
[00:37] <eltoozero> there is a video of the freeze attached to the bug.
[00:38] <eltoozero> full freeze, black screen, a console cursor and mouse cursor remain.  REISUB is ineffective, full shut down required.
[00:39] <eltoozero> I was just now directed from #ubuntu-bugs to inquire here, michag suggested I check syslog to see if there is wisdom to be gained there
[00:39] <jjohansen1> eltoozero: kernel is the linux package
[00:40] <eltoozero> yes, what can I do to establish if this is a kernel related issue?
[00:41] <eltoozero> I suppose the alternative would be the rt2860, or bluetooth, that's what I need help with.
[00:42] <jjohansen1> eltoozero: if it is a full freeze it is at least partially kernel related, even if it is a driver
[00:44] <eltoozero> jjohansen1, ok cool, what can I do to help?
[00:45] <jjohansen1> eltoozero: hrmm can you trigger it using rfkill from a vt?
[00:46] <eltoozero> that's something to try; for clarification, by vt you mean ctrl-alt f1
[00:47] <jjohansen1> yes
[00:47] <eltoozero> cool, I'd like to see if anything shows up in syslog as well, I'll test that, thank you.
[00:47] <jjohansen1> doing it from the vt console if rfkill triggers the bug we might get a trace back
[00:48] <eltoozero> brb, reproducing freezes is fun. :)
[00:50] <eltoozero> hang on now, when I do an rfkill list, I get two bluetooth adapter entries...
[00:50] <eltoozero> eeepc-bluetooth: Bluetooth, and hci0: Bluetooth
[00:51] <mjg59> That's normal
[00:52] <eltoozero> thank you mjg59, on to the crashing.
[00:54] <eltoozero> of course it works fine from vt...
[00:55] <eltoozero> the problem is triggered from the fn-f2 hotkey, at least that's how I've been reproducing it
[00:56] <eltoozero> if I can only get it to happen via that method, and not via rfkill, what does that indicate?
[00:56] <jjohansen1> that rfkill isn't the problem :)
[00:57] <eltoozero> so, reproduce the way I know how and check syslog I suppose would be the next logical step?
[00:57] <jjohansen1> yes
[00:59] <jjohansen1> though if it is a full freeze I don't expect anything will make it to the log
[01:03] <jjohansen1> eltoozero: when you tried the console, did you try getting bluetooth into an unknown state via graphical interface and then switching to console and using rfkill
[01:06] <eltoozero_> jjohansen1, nothing in syslog before the reboot
[01:07] <jjohansen1> eltoozero: when you tried the console, did you try getting bluetooth into an unknown state via graphical interface and then switching to console and using rfkill
[01:08] <eltoozero> yes
[01:08] <eltoozero> unintentionally, it was in the unknown state to begin with
[01:08] <eltoozero> the rfkill toggle does not affect the unknown status of the adapter as shown in the indicator applet
[01:09] <jjohansen1> okay, so the question becomes what is different between using rfkill on the console and the hotkey
[01:09] <eltoozero> on top of that I can't always reproduce the unknown status on the adapter, it will freeze even if it is reporting on/off correctly, bluetooth just has to be toggled.
[01:11] <jjohansen1> eltoozero: yes but it does show something is broken in the driver
[01:14] <jjohansen1> eltoozero: can you include the command that is invoked by your hotkey
[01:16] <eltoozero_> jjohansen1: on a different box so I don't drop myself like a fool
[01:17] <jjohansen1> eltoozero: hrmm, this could also be a bias issue
[01:17] <jjohansen1> s/bias/bios
[01:17] <eltoozero_> k, hit me.
[01:17] <jjohansen1> fn+f2 will kick would be bios/acpi
[01:17] <eltoozero_> I'm running the most updated bios for my hw, I can disable bt in the bios and when I boot it's recognized as such
[01:18] <eltoozero_> initially I tried shutting wifi/bt off in the bios, enabling via gui, then shutting off to reproduce the bug
[01:18] <eltoozero_> everything works until that last wifi disable, but it does disable
[01:18] <jjohansen1> right, what I mean is it might not be playing nice with the driver
[01:18] <eltoozero_> access the bios right after the crash, it's disabled.
[01:23] <eltoozero_> I did find this previously, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hotkeys/Troubleshooting
[01:23] <jjohansen1> eltoozero_: hrmm I found a couple other references to fn-f2 freezing the machine
[01:23] <eltoozero_> it appears the key is generating the XF86WLAN event
[01:24] <mjg59> rfkill may freeze Eees if you're using one of the broken vendor wireless drivers
[01:24] <mjg59> They don't play nice with the PCI hotplug
[01:25] <eltoozero_> sounds good, what would be a suggested workaround? locate a more appropriate driver?
[01:25] <mjg59> Which driver are you using?
[01:25] <eltoozero_> rt2860
[01:25] <eltoozero_> can I be more specific?
[01:27] <mjg59> Yeah that's the vendor driver from staging
[01:27] <eltoozero> I see in the dmesg is says rt2860sta and "you have been warned"
[01:28] <eltoozero> (love it)
[01:28] <mjg59> rt2800pci doesn't seem to have been merged to mainline yet
[01:28] <mjg59> Not sure what the situation is there
[01:30] <eltoozero> mjg59: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2009-July/006564.html
[01:31] <mjg59> Yeah
[01:31] <mjg59> So right now you're stuck with the broken driver
[01:31] <eltoozero> hey, them's the breaks.
[01:32] <mjg59> But I suspect that's your problem
[01:32] <mjg59> And that if you unload rt2860 you won't be able to generate the hang
[01:32] <jjohansen1> that would be my bet as well
[01:33] <eltoozero> sounds reasonable, I'm sure it's really just a better idea to get a well supported wifi chip.
[01:34] <mjg59> It should be reasonably supported in the not-too-distant future
[01:34] <eltoozero> mjg59: where would I go to aid in that goal?
[01:35] <mjg59> Searching linux-wireless may be your best bet
[01:35] <mjg59> The mailng list
[01:36] <eltoozero> cool, so the drivers that are included are likely _not_ the manufacturers drivers, because of copyright/firmware, correct?
[01:36] <eltoozero> the question being, is it worth it to try their reasonably up-to-date source for the chip
[01:37] <mjg59> The long-run plan is to have a rewritten driver that actually uses the Linux wifi stack
[01:37] <mjg59> Rather than the vendor drivers, which don't integrate cleanly
[01:37] <mjg59> rt2860 is a lightly cleaned up version of the manufacturer driver
[01:37] <mjg59> rt2800pci will be the rewritten Linux one
[01:37] <eltoozero> from the rt2800pci page it doesn't seem to indicate my chipset in their support list
[01:38] <eltoozero> based on the following Ralink chipsets: rt2400, rt2500, rt2570, rt61 and rt73.
[01:38] <eltoozero> but I totally follow you
[01:39] <eltoozero> very helpful guys, thanks for all the info and guidance.
[01:39] <eltoozero> mjg59, jjohansen1, keep up the good work.
[02:22] <JanC> mjg59: do you mean that there is a tiny chance that there will be Ralink drivers that support multithreaded/multicore CPUs after all those years?  ;)
[02:23] <mjg59> One hopes
[02:26] <JanC> I've never had real problems to get them work on a P3, but IME anything like a P4, Core/Core2 Duo, etc. will magically work or not work depending on the system's mood today...  :-/
[02:26] <JanC> (sounds like timing-based concurrency problems...)
[05:03] <cooloney> ericm_, ikepanhc are you guys using grub2 in your karmic?
[05:04] <cooloney> i did see any menu for me to select the right kernel for booting
[05:04] <ericm_> cooloney, y
[05:04] <ericm_> cooloney, did or didn't?
[05:04] <cooloney> didnt
[05:04] <ericm_> is that a fresh installation?
[05:05] <ikepanhc> cooloney: not yet, I am still using grub to boot karmic kernel/filesystem
[05:05] <ikepanhc> cooloney: you mean you can not find menu.lst?
[05:05] <ikepanhc> cooloney: grub2 has different format and name
[05:06] <cooloney> ericm_, yup fresh
[05:06] <cooloney> ikepanhc, indeed
[05:06] <cooloney> ikepanhc,  it should be the grub.cfg
[05:06] <ericm_> cooloney, that shouldn't be
[05:07] <ericm_> cooloney, my fresh installation here works perfect
[05:07] <Q-FUNK> TheMuso: I notice that a while back you removed keyboard map hooks from initramfs.conf, stating that console-setup takes care of that.  now, where is the console-setup hoow to copy that keyboard map to initrd?
[05:07] <cooloney> ikepanhc, but when i boot my machine, there is no such menu for me to pick up a right kernel
[05:07] <ikepanhc> It is automatically generated by /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig
[05:08] <cooloney> ikepanhc, great, grub2 config is right, but i did not see the menu selection screen
[05:08] <cooloney> did you?
[05:08] <ericm_> cooloney, then what did you see on your boot? And can you even boot into _one_ kernel?
[05:08] <ikepanhc> cooloney: I am not using it, I still spend most of my time on Jaunty
[05:08] <cooloney> ericm_, just booting into our splash screen, progress bar then enter gdm
[05:09] <cooloney> very quick
[05:09] <cooloney> ikepanhc, got it.
[05:09] <cooloney> i just wanna try an old version kernel. but the grub2 don't let me choose
[05:10] <ericm_> cooloney, ESC doesn't help right?
[05:12] <cooloney> ericm_, just tried ESC, too quick for me, i missed
[05:12] <cooloney> ericm_, booting too quick is a pain for developer, heh
[05:12] <ericm_> cooloney, hammer on your desktop to slow it down
[05:14] <bjf-afk> cooloney, if you hold the shift key you should get the grub2 menu (so I've been told)
[05:15] <cooloney> bjf-afk, thanks god, let me try. bjf-afk  is every where, cheers
[05:20] <cooloney> bjf-afk, i appreciate, shift works,
[05:23] <bjf-afk> cooloney, from what I can tell *lots* of people are running into the same issue :-)
[05:27] <cooloney> bjf-afk, i have to recode this shift trick into my Zim wiki notes, thanks, -:)
[09:19] <hyperair> is anyone familiar with an issue where plugging in an earphone after resuming from suspend/hibernate does not mute the speakers?
[09:48] <Q-FUNK> howdy!  what should we do about bug #396286 ?  we've narrowed down the exact upstream git commit that broke it and filed a bug upstream in their bugzilla.
[09:48] <ubot3> Malone bug 396286 in linux "2.6.31-generic: kernel panic near the end of initramfs" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/396286
[09:48] <Q-FUNK> or actually, the first commit in a series of subsequent ones that made it difficult to simply revert one git commit.
[09:49] <Q-FUNK> ogasawara helped me track down the exact commit but, at this point, we'd need people who actually know kernel internals to jump in and help LKML fix it.
[09:49] <smb> Q-FUNK, Let me have a look at it
[09:50] <Q-FUNK> smb: thanks! :)
[09:58] <smb> Q-FUNK, Interesting. Seems atm only the nag-mails from Rafael come in. That patch that seems to break things looks nicely short... I try to sink into that a bit. But for completeness: what kinds of filesystems are involved? Only ext3, ext4, other?
[10:03] <Q-FUNK> ext3
[10:04] <Q-FUNK> well, it's not just one commit.  it's the first commit in a long series to implement.. was it ACL... in various filesystems.
[10:04] <Q-FUNK> and indeed, no feedback except automated nag mails from Raphael.
[10:04] <smb> Yeah posix acl... thingies
[10:04] <Q-FUNK> or well, Ingo Molnar replied on LKML that he'd rather get the crash dump as plain text rather than a picture and then he left it at that.
[10:06] <Q-FUNK> IIRC, AL Viro, who made those changes, was the one who said that he could not see how adding posix acl to /sys would make the kernel crash at bootup.
[10:06] <smb> The interesting part is why does it only blow into your face... Which is always hard if that happens before you have something to write it to... A problem with the pictures often is that you miss the (more valuable) top part. Or parts as often there are more than one
[10:07] <Q-FUNK> AFAIK neither of them bothered actually chekcing what my most recent snapshot shows.
[10:07] <Q-FUNK> right
[10:07] <Q-FUNK> here, to prevent that, I'm puposely booting with a huge framebuffer.  it fits more content on screen.
[10:08] <Q-FUNK> 1280x1024, IIRC
[10:08] <smb> yeah, this does not look bad and has the top of it
[10:09] <smb> ok, sort of when cleaning an inode up.
[10:09] <Q-FUNK> yup, right from the uname at the start of the crash until the cursor stopped flashing.
[10:10] <Q-FUNK> somewhat tiny fonts, but I use a tripod to mount the camera, so the amoutn of fuzz is minimized.
[10:10] <smb> Its definitely one of the better ones. My eyes do not burn while looking at it. :)
[10:11] <Q-FUNK> and yes, it seems that it buggers on some inode.
[10:12] <Q-FUNK> however, it's unclear to me whether it's an inode on the / filesystem in ext3 or something else.
[10:13] <Q-FUNK> I cannot remember if it was Ingo or Al who suggested that this looks like a crash while mounting /sys
[10:14] <smb> Let me spend a bit of time to think about it. It could well be that it is one of the virtual fs'es and maybe some other code that forgets to do things right. Somehow it must be something that is usually not used, otherwise everybody would see it
[10:15] <smb> It might be helpful to know what is special on a Geode (never saw one)
[10:15] <Q-FUNK> I could paste the cpuinfo
[10:15] <Q-FUNK> It's basically a 586 with some extra more recent instructions, plus some amd-specific things
[10:16] <smb> Its maybe not the cpu only but the system as a whole. Meh, not very specific
[10:17] <Q-FUNK> should I paste fstab also?
[10:18] <smb> Wait a bit with that. For the moment I guess there is reasonable evidence. If I think we need more I would as in the report...
[10:19] <smb> Last sysfs file touched was sys/power/resume... thats also good to know
[10:22] <Q-FUNK> ah.  acpi issue then?
[10:24] <smb> Sorry, it might be somewhere in the report but have you tried with a busting version and acpi=off on the commdandline?
[10:25] <Q-FUNK> busting version?
[10:26] <smb> err, I was trying to say a kernel version that usually does not boot
[10:26] <Q-FUNK> ah, right
[10:26] <Q-FUNK> no, but I could try.  just a sec.
[10:29] <Q-FUNK> still crashes
[10:30] <Q-FUNK> noticed the line on top that says BUG: could not handle paging request at *****
[10:30] <Q-FUNK> did something try to request tons of memory and barfed with a buffer overflow?
[10:32] <smb> My suspicion would rather be (as it starts with that acl patch) that one of those pointers get set to something not -1 without being a real address and then are tried to get freed on destroy inode... But why needs a bit more meditation
[10:38] <Q-FUNK> ok
[10:41] <smb> Hm, actually you could do me a favour and get me the address of the first BUG that happens on the current karmic kernel -10.something. I just need the IP: ... (like __destroy_inode+...) Then I check this more exactly here
[10:41] <smb> If you would add that info to the report I can check up later on
[11:01] <ankur> is this where i can ask kernel related question...?
[12:40] <Keybuk> apw: when's a good time to send you a kernel patch?
[12:41] <apw> Keybuk, is there a bad time?  clearly if you want it in A6, its going to be tight
[12:41] <Keybuk> sent to kernel-team
[12:41] <Keybuk> it's a fairly critical bug fix
[12:41] <Keybuk> and we need to test it first, to get the other half of the bug fix
[12:42] <apw> Keybuk, what do you need?
[12:42] <apw> a kernel with that bodged on, so you can test?
[12:42] <Keybuk> yes please
[12:42] <Keybuk> it's a fix for ext4 to not write the "last write time" field of the superblock when the filesystem is mounted read-only
[12:43] <apw> that would be clearly against the spirit of read-only
[12:43] <Keybuk> indeed
[12:43] <Keybuk> (it's replaying the journal from an unclean shutdown)
[12:44] <Keybuk> the problem is that it gets that time from the system clock
[12:44] <apw> yeah i got hit by that 'your last mount was in the future, full fsck engaged'
[12:44] <Keybuk> when the filesystem is mounted read-only on boot (by either the kernel or the initramfs), the system clock contains whatever was in the hardware clock
[12:44] <Keybuk> and that's not necessarily UTC
[12:44] <Keybuk> right
[12:44] <Keybuk> this is the fix ;)
[12:44] <apw> why we never hit it before?
[12:44] <Keybuk> because Ted has blamed Ubuntu for the apparent clock issues
[12:44] <Keybuk> saying we had "buggy init scripts"
[12:45] <Keybuk> and he even included a hack in e2fsck that checked whether you were running on Ubuntu, and simply ignored the issue
[12:45] <apw> sounds like ted :)
[12:45] <Keybuk> I removed the hack, because we *don't* have buggy init scripts, because we spent a long time making sure they were right
[12:45] <Keybuk> and then these bugs started showing up again
[12:45] <mjg59> All problems exist in userspace
[12:45] <Keybuk> it's refreshing to discover that they are actually kernel bugs in the ext3/4 filesystem code ;)
[12:45] <apw> good on you for your being pig headed and stubourn :)
[12:46] <Keybuk> the only reason they seemed to affect Ubuntu is because
[12:46] <Keybuk> err
[12:46] <Keybuk> we have users
[12:46] <apw> hehe shhhh
[12:46] <apw> everyone will want them
[12:46] <mjg59> The real issue is how widespread having the clock in local time is
[12:46] <mjg59> I suspect that's far more widespread with Ubuntu than most distributions
[12:47] <apw> windows defaults to that
[12:47] <mjg59> Quite
[12:47] <Keybuk> anyone who dual-boots with windows will have it in local time
[12:47] <apw> so any dual boot setup will have it
[12:47] <Keybuk> it's probably true that we have more "ordinary users" who do such a thing
[12:47] <apw> so we are more vunerable to it through that
[12:47] <Keybuk> whereas other distros have a higher proportion of Linux purists
[12:47] <apw> all true.  but a bug is a bug, and finding and squashing it is good
[12:47] <apw> Keybuk, a PPA needed, or some downloadable .deb's enough for you for this testing
[12:48] <apw> and if the latter, what arch is most useful so i can build that first
[12:48] <Keybuk> downloadable is fine
[12:48] <Keybuk> _i386
[12:48] <apw>     that point, for people who are east of GMT and who make their clock
[12:48] <apw>     tick in localtime for Windows bug-for-bug compatibility, and this will
[12:48] <apw> nice description
[12:49] <apw> Keybuk, that fix only fixes ext4 ...
[12:49] <Keybuk> yes, Ted would like to know whether this is the right fix
[12:49] <Keybuk> if it is, he'll fix ext3 too
[12:50] <Keybuk> apw: I know, I'm genuinely shocked
[12:50] <Keybuk> I fully expected Ted to find *some* way to blame Ubuntu in the description ;)
[12:50] <apw> Keybuk, you got a bug for this in LP ?  so i can use the number?
[12:51] <Keybuk> do you know, we don't
[12:51] <Keybuk> let me file one
[12:51]  * apw slaps self for not filing one midnight now - 24hours when he hit it
[12:53]  * apw waits with baited breath
[12:53] <Keybuk> bug #427822
[12:53] <ubot3> Malone bug 427822 in linux "fsck says last write time in future" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/427822
[12:53] <Keybuk> I've deliberately left an e2fsprogs task there since that's where people will look
[12:53] <apw> very sensible
[12:53] <apw> and close it won't fix there not invalid so it stays searchable
[12:54]  * apw fires up the hoover
[12:55] <Keybuk> I'll leave it open for now
[12:59] <apw> yeah i meant in the long run
[13:06] <apw> Keybuk, we likely have to get this done by monday eve to get this in the alpha
[13:06] <Keybuk> yes
[13:06] <Keybuk> this bug is pretty much hitting everyone
[13:06] <Keybuk> so I think we should consider it critical for the alpha
[13:07] <apw> ack ... i am sure you would have reason to get it by the freeze anyhow as its bad, but just stating the obvious
[13:07] <apw> it takes soooo damn long to get a kernel these days
[13:08] <Keybuk> sure, we can hold up alphas easy enough though :p
[13:09] <Q-FUNK> smb: come again?
[13:09] <smb> Q-FUNK, yep
[13:09] <Q-FUNK> smb: what was it that you wanted me to add to the bug?
[13:10] <Q-FUNK> smb: address of the first BUG?
[13:10] <Q-FUNK> smb: ah, you mean the crash output? the first line that starts with BUG?
[13:10] <smb> Just the address of the unhandled pointer reference with the latest ubuntu kernel
[13:11] <smb> so I can have one compiled here with debugging info and check the exact location of the crash
[13:11] <smb> right
[13:12] <smb> but the line is that which starts with IP: ...
[13:12] <smb> directly below of the BUG: line
[13:12] <Q-FUNK> BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at ffffb4ff
[13:12] <Q-FUNK> this?
[13:13] <Q-FUNK> ah
[13:13] <smb> below that which was: IP: [<c01f716b>] __destroy_inode+0x4b/0x80
[13:14] <smb> Mainly to check that it is still 0x4b and not moved to somewhere slightly off
[13:16] <Q-FUNK> smb: added
[13:18] <smb> Q-FUNK, Ok, thanks. Now I only need to have the compile done. Thanks so far
[13:21] <mjg59> Keybuk: It'll hit far fewer after BST ends :p
[13:23] <Keybuk> mjg59: :D
[13:33]  * apw muses about online fsck, was it btrfs which did that?
[13:36] <mjg59> softupdate FFS does
[13:36] <mjg59> But softupdates are brain meltingly difficult
[13:43] <apw> Keybuk, could we not have left the ted bodge in, but made it produce an message or something ... so we don't get hurt by it all the time?
[13:43] <apw> you only care to know if you have stopped it occuring after all
[13:43] <apw> and the pain level is very high from this thing
[13:45] <apw> as an example your test kernels are off the table while my machine is rebooting
[13:45] <apw> and its been fsck'ing for 20 mins already
[14:02] <Keybuk> apw: karmic is not being released tomorrow
[14:03] <Keybuk> I would rather fix this properly and *know* it's fixed
[14:03] <Keybuk> rather than bodging out the error just for people running an unreleased version ;)
[14:03] <apw> but the fact is just print a vile error when the bodge was applied would give you just the same information and not mean i lose an hour every tiem i915 breaks
[14:04] <Keybuk> no it wouldn't
[14:04] <Keybuk> because the vile error isn't printed
[14:04] <Keybuk> there's a splash screen in the way
[14:04] <apw> heh for you maybe ...
[14:04] <Keybuk> if you want to bodge it for yourself, just stick that buggy_init_scripts thing back
[14:04] <Keybuk> zelda scott% cat /etc/e2fsck.conf
[14:04] <Keybuk> [options]
[14:04] <Keybuk> 	buggy_init_scripts = 1
[14:05] <apw> oh it still in there excellent
[14:05] <apw> will do that given the massive instability i seem to have today
[14:45] <apw> Keybuk, that patched kernel is now available at: http://people.canonical.com/~apw/lp427822-karmic/
[15:58] <jjohansen1> the EC2 kernel status meeting has been moved to #ubuntu-server and will start at 16:00 UTC (ie. 2 min)
[17:08] <Q-FUNK> smb: thanks! what should I pay attention to when I boot your test kernel?
[17:09] <smb> Q-FUNK, As I don't hope much its a double free it likely just runs into the bug again with just a slightly different address.
[17:09] <smb> If it boots, then you would see WARNINGs in dmesg...
[17:10] <Q-FUNK> ok
[17:10] <smb> I try to make a v2 that juggles around with the structure elements. So if something blindly writes it should then hit the same private pointer as before... but that I have to build
[17:11] <Q-FUNK> lemme grab my camera and ake a snapshot of that one.
[17:14] <smb> Q-FUNK, No worries about a picture
[17:14] <smb> If its still the same bug
[17:28] <Q-FUNK> smb: result pasted
[17:28]  * smb looks
[17:29] <smb> Ok, I nearly expected that. I am building another one right now and will upload it as soon as it is done.
[17:33] <Q-FUNK> ok
[17:33] <Q-FUNK> I'll wait for that and test it.
[17:50] <erichammond> pgraner: Did the weekly Karmic meeting displace the daily EC2 kernel meeting today?
[17:50] <smb> Q-FUNK, Ok, its uploaded. A little warning, as I cheated a bit with the abi number, external modules (including dkms) get confused. So if using nvidia or fglrx for example, those fail to load.
[17:51] <rtg> erichammond, jjohansen1 bodged the meeting time and is now at the dentist
[17:51] <apw> erichammond, i think the EC2 meeting is at the top of the next hour
[17:51] <apw> oh perhaps not
[17:52] <rtg> erichammond, the only significant kernel issues that I'm aware of is the 4gb i386 trap warning. smoser is supposed to try an image with libc6-xen
[17:56] <rtg> apw, were you able to test 'ext4: Don't update superblock write time when filesystem is read-only' ?
[17:56] <apw> rtg, i added the patch to a kernel for Keybuk ...
[17:56] <apw> Keybuk, did you manage to test it yet?
[17:56] <rtg> apw, weren't you suffering from it?
[17:57] <smoser> we can do it whenever (the meeting) and as far as i am aware the only issue is bug 427288 (4gb i386)
[17:57] <ubot3> Malone bug 427288 in linux "Karmic i386 EC2 kernel emulating unsupported memory accesses" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/427288
[17:57] <apw> i was in the sense that i hit it on reboot yes
[17:57] <apw> but when i do hit it it takes 40 mins to recover, and i was in the release meetings :/
[17:57] <erichammond> okeydoke.  I was asked to attend the meeting, so I set my alarm a couple hours early :-/
[17:58] <erichammond> Seems like things were covered in the Karmic release meeting which I accidentally stumbled into.
[17:58] <rtg> erichammond, good. I think we'll skip the ec2 meeting today pending results from smoser
[18:03] <Q-FUNK> smb: Geode has built-in video.  no prolem with that :)
[18:08] <ajish> can some one help me how to enable kdb in ubuntu 2.6.28-14-generic
[18:09] <Q-FUNK> smb: victory!
[18:10] <smb> Q-FUNK, Unfortunately just partially.
[18:10] <Q-FUNK> smb: whatever you did, it boots.  it however hangs up later at the apparmor loading step.
[18:11] <Q-FUNK> smb: well, you've at least succeeded in isolating the issue
[18:11] <smb> The corruption might still be in place, but instead of hitting the i_acl pointer and being visible on boot, it would affect the private pointer and might go unnoticed
[18:12] <smb> At least it seems that the change seems quite isolated, seems to be only at this one location...
[18:15] <smb> Q-FUNK, I wonder whether apparmour failing later is a clue or just coincidence because of the silently modified structure... But I guess that needs a bit more thinking... :)
[18:15] <Q-FUNK> Linux geode 2.6.31-10-generic #32bug396286v2 SMP Fri Sep 11 16:26:56 UTC 2009 i586
[18:15] <Q-FUNK> smb: that, I wouldn't know.
[18:15] <Q-FUNK> brb
[18:26] <apw> cjwatson, did you say our grub2 was updated with the potential fix for the blammo?
[18:35] <cjwatson> no
[18:35] <cjwatson> Robert still seems to be working on it - the Debian bug's been updated
[18:35] <cjwatson> I think I'm waiting for it to go upstream at this point
[18:35] <apw> sound indeed
[18:35] <apw> bah lost the link to the debian bug ... don't have it by any chance do you?
[19:53] <amitk> ogra: lool: First cut of the freescale kernel rebased to 2.6.31 and all patches upto sdk1.6 applied -> http://people.canonical.com/~amitk/mx51/linux-image-2.6.31-100-imx51_2.6.31-101.8_armel.deb
[19:53] <amitk> I'll be reordering/cleaning up a little bit, but this is the meat of it.
[19:57] <lool> ogra: thanks
[19:58] <lool> err amitk, thakns
[19:58] <lool> amitk: How did the kernel work for you?
[19:58] <lool> amitk: Could you comment on the latest patches?  Fixes or new features or...?
[20:47] <cwillu_at_work> I get the impression that the upstream kernel people aren't aware that a desktop becomes unusable under any io load?
[21:09] <jjohansen1> cwillu_at_work: it just depends on your definition of usable and load
[21:09] <jjohansen1> :)
[21:09] <cwillu_at_work> D:
[21:10] <cwillu_at_work> but seriously :p
[21:10] <cwillu_at_work> I don't understand why my mouse cursor should ever stop moving in response to _disk_ load
[21:10] <cwillu_at_work> I thought this was supposed to have been taken care of years ago :p
[21:11] <cwillu_at_work> and then I thought that having 4gb of ram to fit my 2gb working set and still have 2gb left over for caching was supposed to make me forget about my troubles
[21:19] <cwillu_at_work> It just feels like we've made no gains in interactivity, despite the improving metrics that are intended to reflect that
[21:31] <cwillu_at_work> brb (groan if you must :p)
[21:41] <erichammond> Would it make sense to link from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam to https://www.google.com/calendar/hosted/canonical.com/embed?src=50d02kfdekgcjdcpc970hh83f0%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=America/New_York ?


[00:38] <ZexaronS> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake
[00:38] <ZexaronS> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[00:39] <ZexaronS> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[00:39] <ZexaronS> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[00:39] <ZexaronS> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[01:37] <lebster2> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake
[01:37] <lebster2> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[01:37] <lebster2> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[01:37] <lebster2> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[01:37] <lebster2> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[01:44] <OPK24> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake
[01:44] <OPK24> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[01:44] <OPK24> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[01:44] <OPK24> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[01:44] <OPK24> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[05:10] <mentifis16> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake
[05:10] <mentifis16> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[05:10] <mentifis16> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[05:10] <mentifis16> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[05:10] <mentifis16> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[05:21] <zenguy-> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake
[05:21] <zenguy-> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[05:21] <zenguy-> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[05:21] <zenguy-> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[05:21] <zenguy-> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[05:33] <pathfinder13> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake
[05:33] <pathfinder13> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[05:33] <pathfinder13> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[05:34] <pathfinder13> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[05:34] <pathfinder13> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[06:14] <was> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake
[06:14] <was> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[06:14] <Mony19> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake
[06:14] <was> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[06:14] <was> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[06:14] <Mony19> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[06:15] <was> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[06:15] <Mony19> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[06:15] <Mony19> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[06:15] <Mony19> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[06:17] <Swant21> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[06:17] <Swant21> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[06:17] <Swant21> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[07:11] <tanuki8> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[07:11] <tanuki8> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[07:35] <SailorHaumea9> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[07:35] <SailorHaumea9> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[07:35] <SailorHaumea9> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[07:35] <SailorHaumea9> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[08:30] <vamiry> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[08:30] <vamiry> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[08:31] <vamiry> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[08:31] <vamiry> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[08:31] <vamiry> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[09:47] <Hello715> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[09:47] <Hello715> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[09:47] <Hello715> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[09:47] <Hello715> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[09:47] <Hello715> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[09:48] <developers> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[09:48] <developers> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[09:48] <developers> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[09:48] <developers> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[09:48] <developers> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[09:59] <mww113> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[09:59] <mww113> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[09:59] <mww113> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[09:59] <mww113> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[09:59] <mww113> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[10:09] <Guest89349> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[10:09] <Guest89349> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[10:09] <Guest89349> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[10:09] <Guest89349> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[10:09] <Guest89349> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[12:00] <tharkun1> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[12:00] <tharkun1> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[12:00] <tharkun1> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[12:00] <tharkun1> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[12:00] <tharkun1> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[12:31] <evil28> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[12:31] <evil28> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[12:31] <evil28> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[12:31] <evil28> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[12:31] <evil28> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[12:50] <FrozenFox19> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[12:50] <FrozenFox19> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[12:50] <FrozenFox19> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[12:50] <FrozenFox19> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[12:50] <FrozenFox19> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[14:11] <Andre483> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[14:11] <Andre483> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[14:11] <Andre483> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[14:11] <Andre483> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[14:11] <Andre483> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[14:43] <mon25> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[14:43] <mon25> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[14:43] <mon25> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[14:43] <mon25> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[14:43] <mon25> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[16:09] <Captain_Beezay> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[16:09] <Captain_Beezay> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[16:09] <Captain_Beezay> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[16:09] <Captain_Beezay> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[16:10] <Captain_Beezay> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[16:16] <nullrouted> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[16:16] <nullrouted> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[16:16] <nullrouted> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[16:16] <nullrouted> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[16:17] <nullrouted> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[16:28] <nOgAnOo> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[16:28] <nOgAnOo> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[16:28] <nOgAnOo> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[16:28] <nOgAnOo> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[16:28] <nOgAnOo> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[16:43] <Neo26> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[16:43] <Neo26> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[16:43] <Neo26> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[16:43] <Neo26> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[16:43] <Neo26> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[16:53] <moonlight6> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[16:53] <moonlight6> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[16:53] <moonlight6> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[16:53] <moonlight6> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[16:53] <moonlight6> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[18:25] <sujeet10> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[18:25] <sujeet10> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[18:25] <sujeet10> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[18:26] <sujeet10> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[18:26] <sujeet10> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[18:57] <Guest79333> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[18:57] <Guest79333> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[18:57] <Guest79333> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[18:57] <Guest79333> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[18:57] <Guest79333> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[19:19] <Dan_au29> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[19:19] <Dan_au29> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[19:19] <Dan_au29> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[19:19] <Dan_au29> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[19:19] <Dan_au29> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[20:05] <ccallahan22> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[21:35] <October> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[21:35] <October> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[21:35] <October> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[21:35] <October> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[21:35] <October> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[21:35] <nosbig> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[21:35] <nosbig> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[21:35] <nosbig> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[21:35] <nosbig> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[21:35] <nosbig> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[21:43] <sneakyness> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[21:43] <sneakyness> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[21:43] <sneakyness> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[21:55] <Kilo`byte> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[21:55] <Kilo`byte> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[21:55] <Kilo`byte> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[21:55] <Kilo`byte> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[21:55] <Kilo`byte> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/


[07:21] <gnuoy> Anyone know of a work around for images struck in "Syncing to rack controller(s)" state ?
[08:23] <gnuoy> Stopping the rack svc then the region svc, waiting, starting region, then rack seems to have fixed it for me


[10:36] <andygraybeal_> wake up
[17:32] <Unit193> Are there normally system76 or other computers on display at OLF?
[17:45] <paultag> Unit193: usually someone gets system76 to show up or send boxen
[17:45] <Unit193> Coolies.
[18:03] <paultag> someone has to coordinate that though
[18:08] <Unit193> Was just wondering, not really high up on the list though.
[18:11] <paultag> yar
[18:30] <dzho> HAH!
[18:30]  * dzho does a fistpump
[18:30] <dzho> I managed to remember "zareason" this time.
[18:30] <dzho> they're another preload vendor with a presence at OLF sometime
[18:31] <dzho> one of their owners (I think) gave a keynote last time
[18:32] <paultag> dzho: rly?
[18:32] <paultag> innnnnnnnteresting
[18:39] <dzho> paultag: https://ohiolinux.org/node/59
[18:42] <paultag> dzho: dud,e too cool
[18:42] <paultag> swap that e and ,
[18:44] <dzho> so, this year, Linux is old enough to drink legally in the US.
[18:47] <jrgifford> yay! linux can drink for me.
[18:47] <jrgifford> or something like that. :)
[18:48] <paultag> \o/
[18:48] <paultag> just sent off my T&S email, gilbert
[18:48] <paultag> feeling good about i
[18:48] <paultag> t
[18:50] <andygraybeal_> hey guys, i was just over at a friends place..  with some phone trouble ... their line coming from the box to the house was accidentally cut -- i fixed it no prob.   i'm experiencing.. no dialtone, it instantly rings and rings until an automated answer happens and then starts to do the digital beeping like the phone is off the hook; what is happening?  i looked further and found that there was no ground line attached to a ground!
[18:50] <andygraybeal_> i know this has nothign to do with ubuntu
[18:52] <andygraybeal_> these happens at the NID .. using a linemans phone
[18:53] <andygraybeal_> ah, i'm experiencing 'line lockout'
[19:03] <canthus13> andygraybeal_: Grounding issues are a pain in the ass.
[19:14] <paultag> +1
[19:14] <paultag> ohai andygraybeal_ / canthus13
[19:14] <andygraybeal_> :))))
[19:14] <andygraybeal_> i think the company locked them out
[19:15] <andygraybeal_> they have to call the company or something, i'm not sure, i don't do phone stuff very often, but i todl her she needs to deal with that grounding problem
[19:15] <andygraybeal_> the gronud wire was just dangling!!!
[19:39] <canthus13> andygraybeal_: Where are you.. We were having an issue very like that today.
[19:39] <andygraybeal_> i'm in southeastern ohio
[19:39] <canthus13> Ah. not related. this is local to Toeldo.
[19:39] <canthus13> *Toledo
[19:39] <andygraybeal_> it was an old house with those asbestos siding
[19:39] <andygraybeal_> yea, i'm in athens
[19:44] <andygraybeal_> i went to school at utoledo for like one semester... it was very depressing for me (not because of toledo, i was in a bad space.. young and in-experienced... and realizing what my parents had taught me wasn't what i thought for myself)
[19:44] <andygraybeal_> one of my friend died and i hated myself already
[19:45] <andygraybeal_> so i decided then that college wasn't for me
[19:50] <andygraybeal_> after that i ate plenty of lsd and blew out the cobwebs :)
[19:50] <andygraybeal_> life is a lot better now.
[19:51] <canthus13> andygraybeal_: Wow. only one semester at the top party school in the countdy?
[19:51] <canthus13> *country
[19:51] <andygraybeal_> utoledo
[19:51] <andygraybeal_> not ou
[19:52] <andygraybeal_> and no, i can't stand partying...
[19:52] <paultag> 15:50 < andygraybeal_> after that i ate plenty of lsd and blew out the cobwebs :)
[19:52] <paultag> 15:52 < andygraybeal_> and no, i can't stand partying...
[19:52] <andygraybeal_> paultag, i think of it as a personal trip, not a party
[19:52] <andygraybeal_> for sure
[19:52] <paultag> fair enough
[19:52] <andygraybeal_> i was either alone or with my best friend.  we didn't 'party'
[19:53] <andygraybeal_> you guys seen the video of that girl at the house fire we recently had down here?
[19:53] <andygraybeal_> it's pretty funny
[19:53] <andygraybeal_> if you haven't seen it i'll find it.
[19:54] <andygraybeal_> http://areyoucookingapizza.tumblr.com/ <--- this is the website dedicated to her
[19:54] <andygraybeal_> watch the video it's hilarious
[19:55] <andygraybeal_> http://www.reddit.com/r/athensohio <-- this is where i found it posted
[20:31] <andygraybeal_> now thats a party :)


[19:05] <hallino1> Hello world!
[19:05] <hallino1> cjohnston: ping
[19:19] <cjohnston> hello
[19:25] <cjohnston> hallino1: ^
[19:26] <hallino1> cjohnston: sorry for the disturb.. If i want to collaborate with ubuntu-website what I have to do? I have already lp and email (ubuntu-it member) Thanks :)
[19:27] <cjohnston> hallino1: what in specific are you looking to do
[19:36] <hallino1> cjohnston: mhmm in what community need
[19:37] <hallino1> cjohnston: i prefer help in website
[19:37] <cjohnston> what experience do you have
[19:41] <hallino1> cjohnston: php-html5-css3, jquery, postgresql, mysql and now i'm learning python and django.. They're easy (not too much the second)
[19:41] <cjohnston> well, most of the active work that is done is in django
[19:54] <hallino1> It's fantastic cjohnston.. So I can learn fast :)
[19:55] <cjohnston> well.. launchpad.net/summit would be somewhere to start looking
[20:04] <hallino1> That sir.. Very helpful cjohnston
[20:06] <cjohnston> :-)
[20:23] <hallino1> cjohnston: Mhmm I really like django and I hope to be helpful to community :)
[20:38] <cjohnston> :-)
[20:38] <cjohnston> let me know if you need help setting up the environment.. if you check out summit-dev.readthedocs.org it should get you going though
[20:38] <cjohnston> or, and this is preferred, but mhall119
[20:41] <mhall119> please don't but me, it's rude
[20:47] <hallino1> Thanks for the support.. If i will have some problem and I can't resolve it by myself.. I will send you :)
[20:53] <cjohnston> bug
[20:56] <hallino1> Good night all!
[21:54] <cjohnston> mhall119: https://code.launchpad.net/~chrisjohnston/summit/the-star-is-rising/+merge/126814


[12:43] <lokesh> hi
[14:24] <mhall119> dholbach: will do, but it looks like somebody already tagged all of mine
[14:24] <mhall119> bugger, ignore that
[14:33] <Pieter2627> How about getting the toolbar content into the menu on the desktop. The menu aren't used on the desktop, right?


[02:40] <atdprhs> Hello everyone, I have managed to successfully setup k8s environment using juju, however I am trying to setup storage but it's working as expected, can anyone please see https://askubuntu.com/questions/1171639/how-can-i-setup-ceph-osd-on-ubuntu-server-with-maas-kvm-pod
[11:32] <atdprhs> hello everyone, can anyone please help about this >> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1171639/how-can-i-setup-ceph-osd-on-ubuntu-server-with-maas-kvm-pod ?


[01:00] <ron__> hello to anyone visiting the channel
[01:01] <ron__> I did not send out a notice due to another commitment
[01:08] <ron__> QUIT


[00:01] <stuffandthings> whenever this happens forcing power off is the only way to restart
[00:01] <stuffandthings> brb, doing so
[00:01] <mmikowski> hmm
[00:02] <mmikowski> earlier kernel sounds like a good first step
[00:06] <stuffandthings30> sorry, where do i look againg in the log?
[00:07] <mmikowski> See /var/log/syslog for most messages; tail -f /var/log/syslog
[00:07] <mmikowski> will show running messages
[00:14] <catguyrussell> test
[00:14] <catguyrussell> hu weird didnt know my computer had this app
[00:15] <mmikowski> now you do 😉
[00:15] <catguyrussell> so we just hop servers cool
[00:20] <stuffandthings> i get things like: 2023-12-03 7:19 P.M.	kernel	rcu: INFO: rcu_preempt detected expedited stalls on CPUs/tasks: { 4-...D } 153643 jiffies s: 785 root: 0x10/.
[00:21] <stuffandthings> 2023-12-03 7:19 P.M.	kernel	NMI backtrace for cpu 4 skipped: idling at intel_idle_ibrs+0x94/0x130
[00:21] <mmikowski> stuffandthings: Are you running on an earlier kernel now?
[00:21] <mmikowski> Or is this the default
[00:21] <mmikowski> ?
[00:21] <stuffandthings> not yet, ill be downgrading in about 40min
[00:21] <mmikowski> Like the one that was running when the system stalled?
[00:22] <stuffandthings> 6.5.0
[00:22] <stuffandthings> but even 6.5.11 was fine
[00:22] <mmikowski> You can boot into it an test before removing the latest; the kernel is just an easy test, but not necessarily the source of the issue.
[00:22] <stuffandthings> or whatever it was
[00:22] <mmikowski> So you can revert back in grub
[00:22] <mmikowski> just press right-shift on boot, and then select the earlier kernel.
[00:23] <stuffandthings> i just use the app called mainline to change it
[00:23] <mmikowski> ok
[00:23] <mmikowski> not familiar with that.
[00:26] <mmikowski> kk, bb
[00:26] <stuffandthings> thanks for your time
[00:27] <mmikowski> no worries, best of luck.
[01:16] <lakitu> mmikowski: it's a ATX motherboard personal computer hooked up to a monitor via HDMI (& have a ANKER bluetooth speaker)
 Anybody knows when will Kubuntu get an update kernel to 6.6 ?
 The problem below seems to be fixed in the new version mentioned above:
 https://forum.manjaro.org/t/sound-not-working-in-asus-rog-strix-g16-2023-g614ju/147761
 https://forum.manjaro.org/t/missing-sound-on-asus-rog-strix-g713pv-after-update-from-kernel-6-6-0-to-6-6-1-and-6-6-2/152486
 Anybody knows when will Kubuntu get an update kernel to 6.6 ?
 The problem below seems to be fixed in the new version mentioned above:
[02:34] <guiverc> @ArsonSteam, I see 6.6 kernel in -proposed for my release currently; but it'll be some time before it floats to an older jammy via HWE for example (jammy soon to get 6.5 being next)
 i am using kubuntu 23.10 and kernel 6.5
 Is it ok to download the .deb packages from https://kernel.ubuntu.com/
 and install them
 i wanna follow this guide
 https://itsfoss.com/upgrade-linux-kernel-ubuntu/
 is it safe to do so ?
[02:39] <enyc> what is this IrcsomeBot relaying from?
 You mean my messages ? (re @IrcsomeBot: <enyc> what is this IrcsomeBot relaying from?)
 I am using Telegram
[02:52] <enyc> ArsonSteam, aaah ok and someody put in IrcsomeBot here which is relaying to/from (at least) telegram, apparently.
[03:18] <imbezol> i'm getting soft lockups daily in plasma on 23.10. i can see in the syslog that i have a cpu that gets stuck. the process seems to be kwin_wayland. anyone know anything about this? would logs be useful to submit somewhere?
[03:18] <imbezol> kernel: [908024.365819] watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#8 stuck for 2392s! [kwin_wayla:cs0:853215]
[03:19] <imbezol> and stack trace or whatever follows
[04:09] <dex> what vertion is the best
[05:41] <mmikowski> imbezol Sorry for playing Captain Obvious, but is kwin_x11 an option?
[13:11] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[15:23] <user|34> Hi, i've a problem with kubuntu 22 LTS. It was added to an active directory but on the gui login page i can't see the user
[15:23] <user|34> It's uid is too high
[15:23] <user|34> How can i resolve?
[15:41] <user|7> bonjour  j ai t 420 et j ai installé kubuntu 22.4 comment maiter le lecture d'empreintes merci
[17:52] <stuffandthings> so far its looking like it was the kernel, for me, old kernels doing okay


[01:37] <JackFrost> tjaalton: Hi!  Looks like 60x11-common_xdg_path hasn't been updated to update the dbus env yet, so if dbus-x11 isn't installed it doesn't inject XDG_CONFIG_DIRS correctly (as is hitting Xubuntu now)  https://salsa.debian.org/xfce-team/desktop/xfce4-session/-/commit/5c2031af3ba542e2a12dc8f41440eda4623ce97a seems to be the method generally used.
[01:37] -ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Commit 5c2031a in xfce-team/desktop/xfce4-session "d/55xfce4-session: Inject DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS into the session via dbus-update-activation-environment."
[21:20] <LocutusOfBorg> bdrung, dpkg done!
[21:21] <LocutusOfBorg> mfo, hello, sbuild merge?
[21:22] <LocutusOfBorg> it took a while, but dpkg is now merged


[02:13] <mhall119> daker: oh look, soccer :)
[08:10] <dholbach> good morning
[08:13]  * jussi waves to dholbach
[08:24] <dholbach> hi jussi
[11:09] <daker> mhall119: that's Football!
[11:09] <daker> dholbach: see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMOwsXvmIYw
[11:15] <dholbach> daker, looks like a happy soccer team to me ;-)
[11:17] <daker> dholbach: that's first time and the first african/arabic team in the finale of the world cup
[11:17] <daker> and the second time on the WC
[11:17] <dholbach> ah ok, I had no idea
[11:20] <daker> dholbach: that's Marrakech :D https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=748617805149294
[11:21] <dholbach> daker, 'un truc de fou' :)
[11:21] <daker> :)
[11:22] <daker> dholbach: with a coach pointed two week ago :D
[11:22] <daker> weeks*
[11:23] <dholbach> daker, when is the final?
[11:24]  * dholbach is not too much into soccer :)
[11:26] <daker> dholbach: this Saturday http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2526130/Raja-Casablanca-players-Ronaldinho-boots-Club-World-Cup-game-vs-Athletic-Mineiro.html
[11:27] <dholbach> cool
[16:46] <jose> jono: ping
[16:47] <jono> hi jose
[16:48] <jose> hey, I have some tickets stuck on the RT queue
[16:49] <jose> let me get the numbers
[16:49] <jose> #23170 and #23162
[17:24] <jose> jono: hey?
[17:24] <jono> jose, hey, have you contacted IS directly?
[17:24] <jose> I tried a couple weeks ago but I can try again now
[18:07] <dholbach> see you tomorrow!


[04:58] <veebers> robru: hey, you around perchance?
[04:58] <robru> veebers: maybe, what's up?
[04:59] <veebers> robru: awesome :-) Hey, I'm trying to remember from ages, canonical/ubuntu has CDNs setup for the likes of Angular etc. right? I'm wondering where to find that info
[04:59] <veebers> robru: I'm hoping there is bootstrap all setup and ready to consume
[05:00] <robru> veebers: i think you're right but i don't remember the answer. If you read the source of requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com it'll show where it's sourcing angular from
[05:01] <veebers> robru: coolio, cheers :-)
[05:03] <robru> veebers: as i recall if you need to add to it you have to commit to lp:ubuntu-assets but branching it is 15GBs so it's quite the chore to download
[05:04] <Mirv> mornings
[05:04] <veebers> robru: yeah, that rings a bell :-P I'm hoping the have a generic CDN. If not there are others to use initially
[05:05] <robru> veebers: yeah. Good luck
[05:05] <robru> Mirv: goodnight ;-)
[05:08] <veebers> robru: heh cheers
[05:13] <Mirv> robru: a good choice! :)
[06:29] <morphis> robru: there seems to be a problem with the comment function in the citrain dashboard; clicking the comment button doesn't show the comment as being added directly which lead me to add one twice (see https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/270)
[06:31] <robru> morphis: I'm not sure how that could be, it refreshes the page after posting a comment which should load the new comment. There used to be a race condition there but i remember fixing it.
[06:32] <morphis> it didn't happen here
[06:32] <robru> morphis: can you file a bug against lp:bileto? The button should dim after clicking it, i implemented that for the save button, forgot to connect it to the comment button
[06:32] <morphis> and I could open the comment box again and the same text was still in there
[06:32] <morphis> robru: sure
[06:33] <robru> morphis: when in doubt reload the page
[06:34] <morphis> yeah :)
[08:39] <anpok_> trainguards: I tested 21 and it works as expected, and fails where it should fail.. Am I allowed to fill out and build the publish jenkins job?
[08:54] <Mirv> anpok_: no, you can just mark it as ready for publishing, which currently is the status "Publish without QA". it will then show up in our radar. the status namings will be clarified a bit once there's some consensus on which kind of wordings make sense.
[08:55] <Mirv> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/citrain/LandingProcess#The_QA_Signoff_Status_field
[09:14] <anpok_> Mirv: ah ok .. got confused thought there was a single sign-off button
[09:23] <morphis> rvr: basically the issue was that the device class was stored in /var/lib/bluetooth/<mac>/config and had a higher priority than the one coming from /etc/bluetooth/touch.conf
[09:23] <morphis> so migrating to something else was impossible
[09:24] <rvr> morphis: Oh, I see
[09:24] <morphis> however that doesn't happen in all situations
[09:45] <rvr> morphis: Cool, now it shows as mobile
[09:45] <morphis> rvr: great!
[10:17] <morphis> rvr: what does not pass with "BLUETOOTH DISCOVERABILITY (RADIO): FAIL."?
[10:23] <rvr> morphis: I'll fix that. It took a while for the device to be unlisted.
[10:33] <morphis> rvr: ok
[11:00] <rvr> morphis: Approving silo 19
[11:00] <morphis> rvr: thanks!
[11:21] <Mirv> nice to have lxc-android-config now in the train!
[12:22] <popey> cihelp: is there some reason this won't merge? https://code.launchpad.net/~popey/notes-app/fix-non-starting/+merge/270425 (I realise it failed ci, but I marked it merged, shouldn't it CI autoland?)
[12:23] <psivaa> popey: you'd probably mark it as 'Approved' not 'Merged'
[12:23] <popey> oh
[12:23] <popey> psivaa: it was already approved but didn't merge
[12:25] <psivaa> popey: ok, i dont see any autolanding jobs for notes-app ?
[12:25] <psivaa> was this requested?
[12:25] <popey> hm
[12:25] <popey> psivaa: this is an old app, should have been autolanding forever?
[12:25] <popey> i see jenkins was previously building it fine http://s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/notes-app-click/
[12:26] <popey> stopped back in july. Did something break?
[12:29] <psivaa> The last change in https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/notes-app/trunk was in July
[12:29] <popey> right, and I made a change yesterday
[12:53] <psivaa> popey: I can not figure how they were landing before, but there is no 'generic-land' job tied to any of the notes-app jobs at present.
[12:53] <psivaa> http://s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/notes-app-click gets only triggered when there is a landing to lp:notes-app
[12:53] <psivaa> which hasn't happened for your change
[12:54] <psivaa> I'll ask how this was landing before when fginther comes online
[12:58] <popey> k, thanks
[13:17] <kenvandine> mardy, any luck with the problem we found in silo 9?
[13:24] <Mirv> jhodapp: bug #1493851 is now the "early warning" requested. I've backported "what went into Qt 5.6" to our Qt 5.5 packages so therefore the bug is filed now.
[13:25] <Mirv> jhodapp: fix the bug description / packages as needed
[13:25] <jhodapp> Mirv, what do you mean?
[13:26] <Mirv> jhodapp: you mentioned that something is slightly different in those patches compared to our overlay version, needing changes, and that you need an early warning?
[13:28] <jhodapp> Mirv, oh, actually I believe I mentioned that to you because of the audio role patches...they were modified and the list of possible audio roles are different from what we have vs what actually landed for 5.6
[13:28] <Mirv> jhodapp: ah, so it was audio roles only, ok.
[13:29] <jhodapp> Mirv, yeah, qtubuntu-media should fail to compile with 5.6 installed
[13:33] <anpok_> cihelp: we need help with one of our CI jobs: mir-android-vivid-i386-build, we would need another package installed prior to executing
[13:34] <Mirv> jhodapp: can you quickly change the bug so that it reflects the correct package(s) affected etc?
[13:35] <jhodapp> sure
[13:35] <Mirv> thanks
[13:40] <fginther> anpok_, which package?
[13:40] <anpok_> fginther: didnt expect you... multistrap - I did extend the cross compile script to also pull packages from stable-phone ppa.
[13:47] <fginther> anpok_, ack, we'll get it updated
[13:49] <oSoMoN> trainguards: I added a branch to silo 21, so it needs a reconfigure, I don’t remember whether I can do that myself?
[13:50] <anpok_> fginther: thx
[13:58] <fginther> psivaa, popey, autolanding for lp:notes-app has been handled by the ci-train since Jan 2014 (had to do some bzr repo digging to find that)
[13:59] <psivaa> fginther: ohh, ack, thanks for the information.
[14:02] <Mirv> oSoMoN: you can, just click assign
[14:03] <oSoMoN> Mirv, ah, thanks
[14:05] <mardy> kenvandine: no, sorry, I couldn't spend much time on it
[14:06] <mardy> kenvandine: do you see anything suspicious in the logs when that happens?
[14:07] <kenvandine> mardy, i'll look
[14:09] <kenvandine> mardy, nothing logged
[14:09] <kenvandine> this time though it took several tries to reproduce it
[14:09] <kenvandine> several actually means 6 or 7 times
[14:09] <kenvandine> yesterday it was reliably the 3rd time
[14:17] <mardy> kenvandine: I couldn't try your branch, but I tried the "about this phone"->updates step which you said being similar, and I didn't reproduce it
[14:17] <kenvandine> mardy, yeah, we can't reproduce it with the updates page
[14:17] <kenvandine> only with online-accounts
[14:18] <mardy> kenvandine: and you see an empty accounts page, at some point?
[14:18] <kenvandine> yeah
[14:18] <mardy> kenvandine: with no title even?
[14:18] <kenvandine> and non-responsive
[14:18] <kenvandine> no, there is a title
[14:18] <kenvandine> <Accounts
[14:18] <kenvandine> < being the back action
[14:18] <kenvandine> which doesn't respond
[14:18] <kenvandine> no items in the list
[14:19] <mardy> kenvandine: can you check with top, whether it's doing something?
[14:19] <kenvandine> i suspect that page never loads
[14:19] <kenvandine> nope, idle
[14:19] <mardy> kenvandine: or maybe it's frozen because it crashed and apport is collecting logs?
[14:19] <kenvandine> i don't have any crash files since last week
[14:20] <kenvandine> nothing from settings either
[14:21] <popey> fgimenez: psivaa okay, thanks.
[14:23] <fgimenez> popey, probably for fginther ^ :)
[14:24] <popey> duh, yes.
[14:32] <kenvandine> mardy, rvr: it's racy
[14:33] <mardy> kenvandine: tell me more :-)
[14:34] <rvr> kenvandine: mardy: The first time I saw the issue, it was the second time I opened the page
[14:34] <kenvandine> mardy, if the first time i switch to accounts, i wait 10 seconds or so
[14:34] <kenvandine> before backing out
[14:34] <kenvandine> i can't reproduce it anymore
[14:34] <rvr> But I needed around four tries the next time
[14:34] <kenvandine> but if the first time i switch i back out quickly
[14:34] <kenvandine> i can reproduce it
[14:35] <kenvandine> so the first time the panel loads, it seems to need enough time to finish
[14:35] <kenvandine> or something
[14:39] <mardy> kenvandine: can you try again, but from the System Settings main page? I mean, opening Accounts from there and going back
[14:40] <mardy> a few times
[14:44] <kenvandine> mardy, i did, it doesn't seem to behave the same
[14:44] <kenvandine> not sure why
[14:48] <mardy> kenvandine: in line 67 here: https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/ubuntu-system-settings/security-ui-tweaks/+merge/268625, can you try adding a second parameter:
[14:48] <mardy> kenvandine: {plugin: upPlugin, pluginManager: pluginManager}
[14:48] <kenvandine> sure
[14:50] <mardy> kenvandine: well, actually it shouldn't make a difference
[14:51] <mardy> it might, though :-)
[14:59] <kenvandine> mardy, well... that did seem to work
[14:59] <kenvandine> mardy, i can't seem to reproduce it with that
[15:00] <mardy> kenvandine: it's beyond comprehension, I'm afraid :-)
[15:00] <mardy> kenvandine: the online accounts page is not using those variables, but the ItemPage base class is
[15:01] <mardy> kenvandine: however, it's using the "plugin" only in its "title" property, which Online Accounts overrides; so I'm a bit surprised that it makes a difference
[15:03] <kenvandine> rvr, i'm adding that fix to the silo
[15:04] <rvr> kenvandine: Cool
[15:04] <kenvandine> jgdx, can you review https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/ubuntu-system-settings/app_permissions_online_accounts/+merge/270548
[15:04] <rvr> ping me when ready and I'll recheck it
[15:05] <kenvandine> mardy, it's even weirder that no matter how hard i try, i can't repro it on mako
[15:06] <kenvandine> mardy, or if you could review it
[15:06] <kenvandine> mardy, i also renamed the variables to make more sense for online-accounts
[15:08] <mardy> kenvandine: +1
[15:14] <kenvandine> mardy, thanks!
[16:01] <kenvandine> rvr, silo 9 rebuilt with that branch
[16:02] <rvr> kenvandine: Thanks.
[16:33] <Laney> do I have to assign again after editing the list of MPs?
[16:39]  * Laney screams
[18:27] <robru> Laney: yes, but not for much longer, I'm working on that. is that all that's wrng?
[18:35] <fginther> anpok, any idea what is going on here? http://s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/mir-android-vivid-i386-build-test/47/console? multistrap is installed as a i386 package early on, but it can't be found when the cross-compile-chroot runs
[18:38] <robru> kenvandine: mterry: whoever's around, can I get a packaging ack & publish for https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-010-2-publish/79/
[18:48] <anpok> fginther: ah no it is working correctly
[18:49] <anpok> my fault
[18:49] <anpok> somehow
[18:49] <anpok> because I added multistrap to the build dependencies, and there is no multistrap inside the armhf archive on ports.ubuntu.com it fails now.
[18:49] <robru> kenvandine: mterry: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-014-2-publish/118/ also this one please
[18:51] <kenvandine> robru, looking
[18:51] <robru> kenvandine: thanks
[18:53] <anpok> fginther: pushing a fix - should work then
[18:53] <anpok> thx
[18:58] <fginther> anpok, thx, retesting
[18:58] <kenvandine> robru, published
[18:59] <robru> kenvandine: great, thanks
[18:59] <kenvandine> np
[20:27] <fginther> anpok, Thanks, that fixed works. The job has been updated now to add the necessary dependencies and your MP has been restarted.
[21:43] <Laney> robru: I was screaming at the multiple failures :)
[21:43] <Laney> not your fault
[21:43] <robru> ah


[03:37] <jose> pleia2, mhall119, cprofitt: congratulations on CC!
[03:41] <pleia2> thanks :)
[03:57]  * IdleOne is happy with the results
[03:58] <IdleOne> congrats :)
[07:49] <dholbach> who of you guys is on trusty already?
[07:51]  * elfy is - has been since the weekend
[07:52] <dholbach> elfy, and? how is it looking? everything operational so far? :)
[07:54] <elfy> it's great here for me - but don't forget it'll be Xubuntu I'm looking at - though from what I've read elsewhere UBuntu appears to be working as well
[07:54]  * dholbach takes the plunge
[07:55]  * elfy was just joking ... everything is in a terrible state ...
[07:55] <elfy> :p
[08:28] <dholbach> so far, trusty is looking good :)
[08:28] <elfy> :)
[08:29]  * elfy installed the gtk3 indicators for our gtk2 panel - looking good here for a super LTS
[09:30] <elfy> dholbach: seems you didn;t get the invite right :)
[09:30] <dholbach> elfy, what?
[09:30] <elfy> can't get back in to the channel
[09:32] <dholbach> elfy, sent the invite again
[09:33] <jussi> you need to set +I on elfy likely
[09:33] <jussi> !modes
[09:33] <ubot2> There are many different channel and user modes on freenode (see !freenode). Here's a list: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml
[09:34] <dholbach> jussi, hum, thanks
[09:34] <dholbach> I have no idea what I'm doing
[09:34] <dholbach> how do I do a "permanent invite" to a channel
[09:34] <dholbach> or something
[09:38] <jussi> dholbach: /mode #channel +I *@ubuntu/member/forestpiskie
[09:38] <jussi> I think that should do it
[09:38] <jussi> youll need to be opped to do that though
[09:38] <elfy> that's what we use for the forum channels
[09:38] <elfy> hi jussi :)
[09:38] <jussi> hi elfy
[09:39] <jussi> dholbach: remembering to replace #channel with the appropriate channel
[09:39] <dholbach> aha, ok
[09:40] <dholbach> thanks a bunch jussi
[09:40] <jussi> dholbach: yw
[09:40] <dholbach> jussi, can I get a list of all the invites?
[09:40] <jussi> dholbach: yes, /mode #channel +I
[09:41] <jussi> with no params it gives the list
[09:41] <dholbach> ok great
[09:41] <dholbach> looks like I didn't mess up everything
[09:41] <dholbach> woohoo
[09:41] <jussi> :)
[09:41] <elfy> dholbach: you want me to check?
[09:42] <dholbach> I shouldn't be trusted with the keys :)
[09:42] <elfy> lol
[09:43] <jussi> yeah, dholbach has no idea about locks :P
[09:43] <elfy> I refuse to comment on the trouble I had with perms in a channel :)
[12:57] <popey> congrats elfy
[12:57] <elfy> thank you popey :)
[14:56] <mhall119> thanks jose
[15:22] <jono> pleia2, mhall119, dholbach, cprofitt, elfy, congrats on the CC position!
[15:22] <jono> what a fantastic council :-)
[15:22] <elfy> thanks jono
[15:23] <jono> :-)
[15:24] <dholbach> thanks jono
[15:33] <mhall119> thanks jono
[15:42] <jussi> oh dear, they let mhall119 onto the council... the end of the world is nigh!!! :P :P :P :P :P :P :P
[15:42] <elfy> it's even worse - they let me on
[15:42] <jussi> (really, congratulations, looks a pretty decent council to me)
[15:43] <mhall119> jussi: I promise to rule with an iron fist
[15:43] <IdleOne> how many are not Canonical employees?
[15:43] <jussi> elfy: wait, what? YOU?????!!
[15:43] <elfy> IdleOne: at least 4
[15:43] <mhall119> 4?
[15:44] <jussi> IdleOne: why didnt you run? we could have had some fun... :P
[15:44] <IdleOne> jussi: I don't even like walking
[15:44] <jussi> mhall119: "not" canonical employees
[15:44] <elfy> pretty sure cz isn't - cprofitt pleia2 me aren't
[15:44] <mhall119> oh, 4 not employees
[15:44] <mhall119> it's just dholbach and I as employees
[15:44] <jussi> cz<tab> was, isnt anymore afaik
[15:44] <mhall119> yeah, cz is working at 10gen now, MongoDB community manager
[15:45] <elfy> wasn't sure about yokozar
[15:45] <mhall119> nope
[15:45] <jussi> and mark....
[15:45] <jussi> :P
[15:45] <mhall119> who stretches the definition of "employee" :)
[15:49] <popey> everyone always isn't sure about yokozar
[15:51] <pleia2> popey: ++
[15:51] <pleia2> (fwiw, he works for a local SF company)
[15:51] <jussi> mhall119: well, He is the owner yes, but also works on the design team, no? therefore, and employee?
[15:54] <dholbach> jussi, no
[15:57] <dholbach> wow
[15:57] <dholbach> "Kim JongUn is now following Ubuntu Development on Google+"
[15:58] <mhall119>  wait what?
[15:58] <daker> huh
[15:59] <dholbach> I guess "Somebody going by the name of 'Kim JongUn' on G+ is now following Ubuntu Development on Google+" is more accurate :)
[17:08] <AlanBell> I wonder if the new community council can help get some more IRCC nominations happening
[17:12] <IdleOne> AlanBell: what is the deadline for nominations?
[17:22] <dholbach> mhall119, elfy: so? how was the first time? ;-)
[17:23] <mhall119> shorter than I expected ;)
[17:23] <dholbach> haha
[17:23]  * dholbach hugs mhall119
[17:23]  * mhall119 hugs back in a mostly platonic fashion
[17:25] <dholbach> all rightie
[17:25] <dholbach> I call it a day
[17:25] <dholbach> see you guys tomorrow!
[17:28] <elfy> much like an FC meeting - short and sweet
[19:01] <AlanBell> IdleOne: end of the month
[19:16] <mhall119> AlanBell: is there a call for nominations blog of fridge post I can link to?
[19:18] <elfy> mhall119: all I've seen is the irc mailing list post https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-irc/2013-November/001623.html
[19:19] <elfy> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2013/11/08/irc-council-elections-announcement/
[19:19] <elfy> missed that
[19:19] <AlanBell> yup, thats the one :)
[19:21] <mhall119> thanks elfy
[19:24] <mhall119> AlanBell: posted on G+, if you care to share it around
[19:24]  * elfy should look at this g+ thing a bit more  he guesses ...
[19:26] <mhall119> elfy: everybody is using it, even Kim JungUn
[19:27] <elfy> I read that :p
[19:27]  * elfy wanders off to aks little one about all this 'social' stuff :)


[00:02] <dhillon-v10> bdmurray, hi :D I see that a lot of bugs that require packaging have broken upstream links so should they be marked invalid or incomplete, which is better in this case
[00:03] <bdmurray> dhillon-v10: incomplete asking the reporter for working links
[00:05] <dhillon-v10> bdmurray, thanks :D you are awesome
[00:11] <micahg> bdmurray: is a bzr checkout the only way to play with search-bugs right now?
[05:48] <chih> secret!!!
[05:48] <chih> absolutely no telling
[06:25] <micahg> chih: ??
[06:26] <chih> micahg,  sorry. i was posting on the wrong channel :)
[06:26] <micahg> ok
[06:47] <nigel_nb> micahg: ping, aroudn?
[06:47] <micahg> nigel_nb: yep :)
[06:47] <nigel_nb> been long since I triaged, but I guess today's also lost to work
[06:47] <nigel_nb> anyways, any idea who's responsible for Ubuntu QA blog?
[06:48] <micahg> nigel_nb: pedro I think
[06:48] <nigel_nb> micahg: a little bit of spam which should be removed http://blog.qa.ubuntu.com/node/28
[06:49] <nigel_nb> its kinda crazy for the QA team website to get spammed, bad publicity
[06:49] <micahg> nigel_nb: it's a blog, if you want comments, you can't avoid it
[06:49] <nigel_nb> micahg: true, but I thought I could alert someone to remove it :)
[06:50] <micahg> of course :)
[06:51] <nigel_nb> do notify pedro if u catch up to speed with him,
[06:51] <micahg> ok
[09:57] <kaddi> hi, can someone help me out. I'm trying to get a bugreport for nspluginviewer in konqueror and I can't find the developer packages for it to create a trace
[15:09] <bddebian> Boo
[15:10] <thekorn> hi bddebian
[15:11] <bddebian> Heya thekorn
[16:07] <PrototypeX29A> hi
[16:07] <PrototypeX29A> i wanted to report a bug in the karmic binary of gedit, but i don't find the right package where to report
[16:07] <PrototypeX29A> i only find the source package
[16:08] <PrototypeX29A> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit
[16:08] <PrototypeX29A> is this the right place to report problems with the binary?
[16:10] <qense> yes indeed
[16:10] <PrototypeX29A> the "source" did confuse me
[16:10] <qense> PrototypeX29A: the source package is the 'mother' of the binary, it's where it's compiled from.
[16:10] <PrototypeX29A> naturally :)
[16:10] <qense> several binaries can be compiled from one source package, that's why we distinguish between them
[16:11] <PrototypeX29A> thanks
[16:11] <qense> you're welcome :)
[16:25] <PrototypeX29A> lp #499889 it is
[16:25] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 499889 in gedit ""Type name of new folder" does not have focus, when doing "save as" with descending ordering." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/499889
[17:09] <szim90> hello, I have a question about triaging a bug.
[17:09] <szim90> specifically 485212
[17:09] <szim90> if the reporter seems to no longer care, but someone else has marked that it effects them, should I close the report?
[17:10] <szim90> it seems to be a duplicate of 292051
[17:12] <PrototypeX29A> maybe this falls under can not reproduce
[17:12] <PrototypeX29A> oder to few information
[17:12] <micahg> szim90: I would mark it a duplicate and add an ubuntu task to the upstream bug
[17:14] <micahg> szim90: actually maybe don't do that...
[17:14] <micahg> hggdh: you around?
[17:15] <szim90> micahg, can I mark an upstream bug if I'm not on bugcontrol?
[17:15] <micahg> szim90: hold on, I forgot the policy :)
[17:15] <micahg> bdmurray: what did we agree on when LP is upstream for a bug?
[17:17] <asac> szim90: just try... if it works, it works. otherwise not :)
[17:19] <szim90> it would appear that the developer page links to the launchpad page for bugs.
[17:19] <thekorn> my personal opinion here is: mark this bug as incomplete and address the other user who is affected directly if he still does have this problem
[17:19] <thekorn> ad can provide the neccessary information
[17:19] <thekorn> s/ad/and
[17:20] <micahg> thekorn: well, it seems like a dup, so my question is just what is our LP is upstream dupe policy for non-Ubuntu only apps
[17:21] <thekorn> hmm, good question, do we have one ;)
[17:22] <micahg> thekorn: I thought we decided on one at the last meeting
[17:22]  * micahg goes to check the chat logs
[17:22]  * thekorn greps for the meeting logs
[17:23] <thekorn> micahg, how can you know, you were late ? :)
[17:23] <micahg> thekorn: the discussion didn't start till I got there as it was my item :)
[17:24] <micahg> and the IRC logs for the channel are published, but I'm not looking at those
[17:25] <micahg> szim90: the consensus seems to have been to add a task on the upstream bug
[17:25] <micahg> wait that's not right
[17:25] <micahg> we seemed to skip this use case entirely which was the whole point...
[17:25] <thekorn> hmm, for me it seems we did not cover the duplcate case
[17:25] <micahg> thekorn: right
[17:26] <micahg> and no one seems to be around :)
[17:26] <thekorn> ok, I think in this case it would make sense to just set the bug to incomplete
[17:26] <thekorn> as the user who is affected by it if it is still a problem
[17:26] <szim90> alright. Should I put a link in the comments to the other one, as the other bug as a workaround.
[17:26] <thekorn> and if he can give more information
[17:26] <thekorn> if not, close it
[17:27] <thekorn> if so, let's start to find a solution at this point ;)
[17:27] <thekorn> szim90, I think this would be great
[17:28] <szim90> so, final consensus is mark as incomple - Needs info, and add a note in the comments that the upstream bug as a workaround for other users.
[17:29] <thekorn> that's how I would act in this situation, it will atleast reduce the amount of bugmails send
[17:30] <szim90> ok. Also, though I'm not a developer, is it possible to solve bugs like this on the packaging level (all that's needed to resolve this is to edit one of the .desktop files)
[17:30] <thekorn> szim90, for your info " KaiserSoze" is the other user who clickt the "this bug affects me too" button, just in case you  would like to adress him directly
[17:31] <thekorn> szim90, is this desktop file shipped as part of the upstream release?
[17:31] <thekorn> or added by an patch in the packaging process
[17:32] <szim90> I'm not sure.
[17:33] <thekorn> szim90, the best way here is to solve this in the project itself
[17:33] <thekorn> to keep the diff to upstream as small as possible
[17:34] <thekorn> but you can ofcourse fix it in the package and send the patch upstream
[17:34] <szim90> alright. I mentioned it because this bug has been open in upstream for a year, and it seems like a simple fix.
[17:34] <szim90> Hm, never patched anything before.
[17:35] <thekorn> szim90, maybe it is because upstream is inactive for a long time
[17:36] <szim90> alright, I'll look into patching it and sending it upstream. And I marked 485212 as incomplete.
[17:37] <thekorn> super cool, thanks szim90
[17:37] <szim90> no problem, thanks for the help thekorn and micahg. And I'll email KaiserSoze about the bug.
[17:38] <thekorn> szim90, he is subscribed to the bugreport, so he will get your comments by mail
[17:39] <szim90> even better.
[17:39] <szim90> Thanks.
[17:53] <hggdh> micahg: I am here
[22:09] <nigel_nb> hey everyone
[22:10] <nigel_nb> hggdh: around?
[22:17] <hggdh> nigel_nb: yes
[22:18] <nigel_nb> hggdh: I was just goin through the list of bugs we've been asked to close as invalid because of apport error
[22:18] <nigel_nb> I can't see some of the bugs or change status in the ones I can see
[22:18] <hggdh> this may be due to the fact that some of the bugs are private
[22:19] <hggdh> now, for changing status, you should be able to
[22:20] <nigel_nb> I think when a bug is parked as dup of a private I can change status too
[22:20] <hggdh> I sort of doubt ;-)
[22:21] <nigel_nb> correction
[22:21] <hggdh> the private status should trump all else. If it does not, I would consider it as a bug in itself
[22:21] <nigel_nb> s/can/can't
[22:21] <hggdh> ah
[22:21] <nigel_nb> which means *evil grin* the bug control has to do a whole lot of work
[22:21] <hggdh> yes...
[22:21] <nigel_nb> I tried.. ;)
[22:22] <micahg> hggdh: did you see the scrollback about dups for upstream bugs where lp is upstream?
[22:22] <hggdh> micahg: no, will scroll back and read it
[22:22] <micahg> hggdh: around 11:30 AM
[22:22] <hggdh> nigel_nb: give us the bug #s that you cannot change, and we will do it
[22:23] <nigel_nb> from around 90 to 125 i picked 5 in random
[22:23] <nigel_nb> all of them were unchangeable
[22:23] <nigel_nb> i.e., in the last of bugs, from line number 90 to 125
[22:31] <nigel_nb> is there any way to give a list of bugs and only see them
[23:40] <hggdh> micahg: read the backlog, but I am confused on what is the question
[23:41] <hggdh> brb