[05:32] <jafethvargas> help plez
[05:33] <jafethvargas> discover software center wont download nothing, its stuck at 0% and because of that, i cant close the app. what a buggy distro that is lubuntu 18.10, im better off installing mint mate :/
[05:35] <jafethvargas> anyone help?
[05:35] <jafethvargas> :v
[05:39] <jafethvargas> lol lubuntu is shit guys better off on mint xfce
[05:39] <jafethvargas> hahahahahaha
[05:39] <jafethvargas> pentium 4 niggas GG
[05:40] <jafethvargas> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH 0 MODS
[05:40] <jafethvargas> NO FUCKS GIVEN
[05:41] <jafethvargas> HAHAHAHAHHAHA
[05:41] <jafethvargas> HAHAHAHHAHA
 hello
 I was wondering, I have Lubuntu installed in dual boot with Win10. also, i have an internal hdd i use for data and I need it for both win and linux
 but after each startup in lubuntu I need to mount it manually
 how do I automatize it?
 Which version of lubuntu you are using?
[13:51] <diogenes_> AlFXLogic, use gnome-disk-utility << awesome tool where you can set which drive to automount
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Which version of lubuntu you are using?], 18.04
 I think I figured that out, say no more, I will do some test myself
 thanks!
 @AlFXLogic [how do I make it automatic?], Or just add it to /etc/fastballs
 If your comfortable in the terminal that is...
 @tsimonq2 [I would encourage you to talk to @JyotiGomes about merging and working together], 👍🏻
 any clues?
 I can't find much documentation
[15:43] <apt-ghetto> About?
 about gnome disk utility
 Select drives on the hard disk which you want to mount. Click on options under the partition table. Select edit mount options.
 You will figure out rest.
 I will send a image in some time if you need.
 @AlFXLogic [<reply to image>], because unless you give it an actual name that's the UUID of the partition being mounted, and by default it will use the name/label of the partition and when one doesn't exist it falls back to UUID
[15:51] <teward> that's less GNOME Disk Utility and more just how the system under the hood would mount things
[15:53] <apt-ghetto> @tsimonq2 Could you fix Lugito also here?
 I would expect this to be mounted at … /media/<user>/<partition name>
 not on … /mnt/<UUID>
 @AlFXLogic [not on … /mnt/<UUID>], Then just change it to what you want!
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Then just change it to what you want!], of course but my point is, why is the default behavior like this?
 Ohh! For that I think wxl and others here will be able to tell.
 or it's a question for GNOME
[16:04] <wxl> which what?
[16:05] <teward> wxl: default mountpoints in GNOME Disk Utility for where to mount a drive/partition to
[16:06] <wxl> uhhhhhhh
[16:06] <wxl> is there such a thing?
[16:06] <teward> wxl: you need to scroll up :P
[16:06] <teward> and also
[16:06] <teward> the bot doesn't relay screenshots anymore
[16:06] <wxl> yeah well make me and simon a task on that one
[16:07] <teward> *assigns it to wxl with "SPITE" on it*
[16:07] <wxl> don't blame me
[16:07] <wxl> i didn't restore the bot
[16:07] <teward> *blames you anyways*
[16:07] <teward> :P
[16:07] <wxl> if i remember correctly i'm the one that configured it to have that behavior
[16:08] <wxl> so if anything, i'm to blame to setting expectations so high XD
 thanks folks, I made it work
 I will test if everything works as expected and let you know
[16:09] <wxl> oh and just when i mounted in 18.04 to /media/lubuntu/UUID
[16:10] <wxl> and what teward said about it before is true.. if there's a problem, it would likely be a gvfs problem
 @AlFXLogic [I would expect this to be mounted at … /media/<user>/<partition name>], Sometimes I find it under /run/media/<user>/<partition name>
 But why?
 My guess would be a setting in the udev automount config (I say guess because I've never dug into the topic)
[18:28] <spader5> Hi! I just booted Lubuntu 18.10, and I'm trying to connect to a hidden wifi ssid. Google stubbornly insists that I want to know how to do this on ubuntu, which is not the same at all. The hardware itself is fine, I can see other access points when I click the connection button next to the clock. I just don't know where the option to connect to a hidden SSID is.
[18:34] <diogenes_> spader5, try: nm-applet or nm-connection-editor
[18:37] <spader5> Chicken and egg, unfortunately. to run either of those it wants me to connect and then install network-manager-gnome
[19:02] <spader5> Okay, in lubuntu 16.04.3, I can click what appears to be the same icon next to the clock, and in the menu that comes up, "Connect to Hidden Wi-Fi Network..." which works perfectly. Why was that removed in Cosmic?
 network-manager-gnome is more complete.
 but is gtk and consumes more resources in lxqt that nm-tray which is qt
[19:08] <spader5> Gotcha. So I guess the questions would be "Why is there no option to connect to hidden wifi in nm-tray, and where was the option moved to/what is the procedure in Cosmic?"
 18.04 is gtk and has network-manager-gnome which is complete
 18.10 is qt and has nm-tray which lacks some features
[19:39] <spader5> Gotcha. So if not through nm-tray, how do I connect to a hidden ssid on cosmic?
[19:42] <rizwan__> hey all
[19:42] <rizwan__> im relatively new to lubuntu
[19:43] <rizwan__> and it has annoyed me so much im looking at another distro lol
[19:43] <rizwan__> have any of you found that it just doesn't do certain things it should? For instance, I have problems saving LibreOffice word docs
[19:43] <rizwan__> I can't download more than one thing at once
[19:49] <wxl> nope don't have those problems
[19:50] <wxl> since both saving and downloading involve disk usage it's certainly possible you have a failing disk. lubuntu is pretty great but it can't fix broken.
 @rizwan__ [<rizwan__> have any of you found that it just doesn't do certain things it shoul …], what kind of problems
 ?
 @spader5 [<spader5> Gotcha. So if not through nm-tray, how do I connect to a hidden ssid o …], network-manager-gnome
[19:56] <rizwan__> lubot: so for instance, I cant save over .doc files with LibreOffice, and I cant download more than one thing at once.
[19:56] <wxl> rizwan__: since both saving and downloading involve disk usage it's certainly possible you have a failing disk. lubuntu is pretty great but it can't fix broken.
 @rizwan__ [<rizwan__> lubot: so for instance, I cant save over .doc files with LibreOffice, …], You can.
[20:07] <kat_> hi guys?
[20:14] <kat_> hi, guys
[20:14] <rizwan__> hi kat?
[20:14] <rizwan__> hi kat
[20:14] <rizwan__> :p
[20:16] <kat_> IDENTIFY Kat1 mountain
[20:17] <kat_> oh, ha I do not know how to use this irc very well. Sorry.
[20:17] <wxl> oh boy go change your password
[20:18] <kat_> what do you mean wxl?
[20:18] <wxl> is that not your password? >>>> IDENTIFY Kat1 mountain
[20:18] <lynorian> kat_:  you put your password in the channel
[20:19] <kat_> ummm I don't know what i'm doing or what i just did? mountain is really nothing anywhere i think
[20:19] <wxl> let's hope so XD
[20:19] <kat_> ya that's dumb it's not a password
[20:19] <kat_> i thought i was making a password for Quassel irc, but not. ha
[20:20] <diogenes_> kat_, run: /msg NickServ identify <yourpassword>
[20:23] <kat_> it said invalid password for NotKat
[20:24] <diogenes_> then it means exactly what it says
[20:25] <kat_> ok so do you guys know how to make google chrome the default browser on Lubuntu 18.10?
[20:36] <spader5> So... no way to connect to a hidden ssid on cosmic except to install network-manager-gnome? Like I said, chicken and egg. I need to install network-manager-gnome to connect to the internet, and I have to connect to the internet to install network-manager-gnome. I'm okay with editing config files, I'm just not familiar with Cosmic. I had a peek at /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf and it's also completely different.
[20:48] <kat_> Does anyone know how to make Google Chrome the default browser?
[20:50] <kat_> i've tried a few things i found online, but they're not working for Lubuntu 18.10.
[20:56] <kat_> anybody here?
[21:47] <greenvan> am I wrong in thinking lubuntu 18.10 does not have a swap file?
[21:52] <greenvan> seems the default install did not create one
[21:52] <greenvan> I was just wondering why


[12:18] <dholbach> metalikop, nice work on lfm
[12:18] <metalikop> thanks
[12:18] <dholbach> metalikop, since seb128 is the maintainer, i'll ask him before i upload it, alright?
[12:18] <metalikop> sure thing, I already dropped him an email, no response yet
[12:19] <dholbach> metalikop, he'll be here tomorrow i guess
[12:19] <metalikop> no worries, maybe he'll check his email before then ;)
[12:20] <dholbach> metalikop, and he'll give his ok, i'm sure
[12:20] <metalikop> thanks
[12:20] <dholbach> metalikop, de rien :-)
[12:22] <dholbach> whiprush, ping
[12:22] <whiprush> pong
[12:22] <whiprush> working on that now.
[12:22] <dholbach> whiprush, cool
[12:35] <metalikop> dholbach: imgsizer is ready to be tested
[12:38] <dholbach> metalikop, right
[12:43] <metalikop> dholbach: I have a question for you....
[12:43] <metalikop> I'm working on mma (a midi program)
[12:43] <dholbach> metalikop, fire away
[12:44] <metalikop> the debian version is 0.11, a new version exists.  I figured I might as well update to 0.12 as well.
[12:44] <metalikop> The author has the docs in a seperate .tar.gz file.
[12:44] <dholbach> you did the same with cfv
[12:44] <dholbach> ah ok
[12:45] <metalikop> What's the method for including the mma-docs.tar.gz in to this package?
[12:45] <dholbach> metalikop, how is the packaging handled atm?
[12:46] <dholbach> metalikop, does upstreams *-docs.tgz contain this: html  mma-lib.pdf  mma.pdf  mma-tutorial.pdf  README
[12:46] <dholbach> ?
[12:47] <metalikop> there's one for pdfs and one for html
[12:47] <metalikop> so multiple docs tars
[12:47] <dholbach> *grmbl*
[12:48] <metalikop> yeah....
[12:48] <dholbach> then you should better get in touch with the according DD
[12:48] <metalikop> perhaps he added them all in one .tar file?
[12:49] <dholbach> that's a really bad thing "guessing how the maintainer compiled '*.orig.tar.gz'"
[12:49] <metalikop> indeed, I'll contact him
[12:50] <dholbach> nice - will the python transition be complicated?
[12:52] <dholbach> metalikop, you could add imgsizer.manpages
[01:15] <zul> anyone want to try a patch to dpatch?
[01:17] <dholbach> zul, what is it about?
[01:17] <zul> colorizes the patch output message result
[01:18] <dholbach> zul, where can i get it?
[01:18] <zul> http://zulinux.homelinux.net/ubuntu/dpatch-color.diff
[01:19] <zul> back up your dpatch though
[01:19] <T-Bone> lol, indeed a simple patch :)
[01:24] <metalikop> dholbach: what should that file contain?  Just a list of the manpages provided by this app?
[01:25] <dholbach> yes, like   debian/imgsizer.1
[01:26] <metalikop> a manpage is already provided
[01:26] <metalikop> should I move the current imgsizer.1 in the source directory to ${SOURCE}/debian/ ?
[01:27] <dholbach> no... if it is provided by upstream
[01:27] <metalikop> it's provided upstream
[01:27] <metalikop> dh_installman imgsizer.1
[01:27] <dholbach> you changed debian/rules to say dh_installman -p<blasomething>
[01:27] <metalikop> that's already in there
[01:28] <metalikop> without the -p
[01:28] <dholbach> -       dh_installmanpages
[01:28] <dholbach> +       dh_installman imgsizer.1
[01:28] <dholbach> this is, what changed from 2.7-1 to 2.7-1ubuntu1
[01:28] <metalikop> right, is that correct?  the ubunu1 version
[01:29] <dholbach> this is why i mentioned you could add debian/imgsizer.manpages
[01:32] <dholbach> metalikop, it was just a suggestion :-)
[01:34] <dholbach> how can i close a bug in malone?
[01:36] <metalikop> is the imgsizer.manpages the preferred method?
[01:36] <dholbach> metalikop, yes... i think so
[01:38] <whiprush> dholbach: ok, new stuff uploaded
[01:39] <dholbach> whiprush, cool
[01:40] <dholbach> if someone could teach me, how to close https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/tasks/157
[01:42] <sivang> dholbach: intersting there seems to be no option for this
[01:42] <sivang> dholbach: talk to bradb
[01:43] <sivang> dholbach: anyway, I'm out for some weekend fun, ;aterz daniel!
[01:43] <dholbach> whiprush, in  debian/control  s/python2\.3\-tk/python2\.4\-tk/
[01:43] <dholbach> sivang, what are you going to do?
[01:43] <whiprush> k
[01:43] <dholbach> sivang, thanks for the hint to bradb
[01:43] <sivang> dholbach: watch a dvd movie I brought from the dvd store
[01:44] <sivang> dholbach: trying to set up ogle right now, since mplayer erros when trying to that :)
[01:44] <dholbach> sivang, what about totem? doesnt it work?
[01:45] <dholbach> whiprush, you could also try   Build-Depends-Indep instead of Build-Depends
[01:45] <sivang> dholbach: I'll try, c'ya!
[01:45] <whiprush> ok
[01:46] <dholbach> sivang, bye! :-)
[01:46] <whiprush> odd, mine shows as Build-Depends-Indep
[01:46] <whiprush> you're talking in debian/control right?
[02:05] <dholbach> re
[02:05] <metalikop> wb
[02:13] <dholbach> metalikop, whiprush: i think i'm going to bed... drop me a line when you finished the packages and i'll look over them tomorrow, ok?
[02:15] <dholbach> sleep tight everyone, i'm off to bed
[02:16] <whiprush> okey
[03:00] <mjg59> Hmm. If this QEmu accelerator thing is as shit-hot as the author claims, someone should convince Mark to buy the source
[03:03] <jdub> mjg59: (someone's trying)
[03:05] <mjg59> Heh
[03:43] <zul> grrr...inotify
[09:20] <dholbach> hai
[09:27] <olivier> greetings
[09:27] <dholbach> hi olivier
[09:28] <crimsun> moin
[09:32] <dholbach> metalikop, imgsizer looks good now, thanks!
[09:33] <crimsun> yep. A couple of us helped him straighten them up a couple nights ago.
[09:34] <dholbach> with jani, dredg, whiprush and metalikop wiki/UniversePythonTransitionTODO will be done in no time ;-)
[09:34] <dholbach> you guys rock!
[09:35] <crimsun> :-)
[09:37] <dholbach> metalikop, uploaded imgsizer
[10:07] <HostingGeek> I got no reply from nvu or from linex
[10:07] <HostingGeek> about nvu
[10:08] <HostingGeek> also now that i have looked at nvu source there is no way it can use an already installed firefox unless tha already install firefox has patches
[10:10] <HostingGeek> so the best thing to do would be to minamize everything of firefox it uses and package it as it is
[10:16] <Treenaks> HostingGeek: or just get the source
[10:16] <Treenaks> HostingGeek: and hack it into using firefox as-is
[10:16] <dholbach> hi Treenaks
[10:16] <HostingGeek> Treenaks: its impossible
[10:17] <Treenaks> HostingGeek: it can use a patched firefox, right? then it should be possible to hack it into using an unhacked ffox
[10:17] <HostingGeek> Treenaks: unless you patch the current firefox
[10:17] <HostingGeek> Treenaks: the who thing is a patched firefox basicly
[10:17] <Treenaks> HostingGeek: the best solution is using firefox and vim
[10:18] <HostingGeek> the whole thing is a hacked up fox
[10:18] <HostingGeek> Treenaks: i use firefox + bluefish
[10:18] <Treenaks> HostingGeek: than someone should step up and re-write it as an xpi for ffox
[10:18] <HostingGeek> Treenaks: its very hard
[10:19] <HostingGeek> Treenaks: have you looked at its source?
[10:19] <janc> isn't glazman planning to use xulrunner in the future?
[10:19] <janc> that should be the base for FF 2.0 AFAIK
[10:19] <HostingGeek> also BeeEmm the debian maintainor said he will happly maintain vhcs for ubuntu
[10:19] <janc> and TB 2.0
[10:20] <HostingGeek> but as he only has isdn and before uploading it he want to test it out him self he ordered a cd
[10:20] <HostingGeek> and now it after the feature freeze so he can't test
[10:21] <HostingGeek> but this will mean one thing has to move from universe to main
[10:22] <Treenaks> HostingGeek: why?
[10:22] <Treenaks> HostingGeek: is it something MOTU can't do?
[10:22] <HostingGeek> Treenaks: he is the maintainor for debian he only just uploaded it to sid its been in experimental for a while
[10:23] <HostingGeek> and it depends on php4-mcrypt
[10:23] <Treenaks> HostingGeek: so? that can be in universe, just like the other packages
[10:23] <Treenaks> what's wrong with universe
[10:23] <HostingGeek> and when i was in here last you said that if he maintains it.. it can be in main for a server install
[10:23] <Treenaks> HostingGeek: main is all about support, not so much about server vs workstation
[10:24] <HostingGeek> Treenaks: i asked him to join
[10:24] <HostingGeek> Treenaks: main means its offically support by ubuntu
[10:24] <HostingGeek> and can be put on a the cd
[10:24] <Treenaks> HostingGeek: no, main doesn't mean it's on the CD
[10:24] <Treenaks> HostingGeek: and the CD is quite full already
[10:25] <HostingGeek> s/cd/dvd
[10:25] <HostingGeek> or an extra cd
[10:25] <HostingGeek> or a custem cd for servers
[10:25] <Treenaks> HostingGeek: still, that doesn't make it "main" instead of universe
[10:25] <Treenaks> HostingGeek: custom CDs can already contain everything you want.. even custom packages
[10:26] <HostingGeek> wasn't there going to be an offical custom cd for servers?
[10:26] <Treenaks> I'm not against it being in main, I'm just asking you te be realistic... if the Ubuntu people won't support it, it won't be in main
[10:26] <HostingGeek> not for hoary but for 5.10
[10:26] <Treenaks> HostingGeek: hoary /is/ 5.10
[10:26] <Treenaks> uh no 5.04
[10:26] <Treenaks> hoary+1 you mean
[10:26] <HostingGeek> lol
[10:26] <Treenaks> still, small chance
[10:27] <HostingGeek> BeeEmm is still wait for his cds
[10:27] <Treenaks> BeeEmm: read the CD FAQ then
[10:28] <HostingGeek> Treenaks: what was this thing about a server cd
[10:28] <janc> better burn one yourself and send him if it has to be there fast...
[10:28] <Treenaks> HostingGeek: read the wiki
[10:28] <HostingGeek> which doesn't include the the desktop
[10:28] <Treenaks> 10:28 < Treenaks> HostingGeek: read the wiki
[10:29] <HostingGeek> Treenaks: yes and why can't vhcs be part of this cd? and if it can it must mean it has to be in main
[10:29] <HostingGeek> ok
[10:29] <dholbach> HostingGeek, there is no server-cd - when you install, you can take the "custom" route to install a cropped-down amount of packages
[10:29] <Treenaks> dholbach: he's talking about hoary+1
[10:30] <dholbach> Treenaks, ah ok
[10:30] <HostingGeek> dholbach: i know but i remeber here that there was an idea for a server cd  which includes anything server realated in main but not in universe
[10:31] <dholbach> HostingGeek, well then Treenaks is right: for ideas on this, the wiki will be the best guess
[10:31] <HostingGeek> also are we going to see in the a search engine by default in the ubuntu build of firefox that searches the ubuntu site?
[10:32] <dholbach> HostingGeek, you could file a wishlist bug on this
[10:33] <HostingGeek> but BeeEmm is the _debian_ maintainor and is happy to make debs for ubuntu
[10:33] <HostingGeek> only thing is i'll like to see them in main
[10:33] <HostingGeek> i am not sure if BeeEmm cares if they are in main or universe
[10:34] <HostingGeek> dholbach: you where replying to my fox comment or vhcs?
[10:47] <dholbach> daniels, may i ask, why you kicked him?
[10:48] <dholbach> i mean, i didnt really enjoy the conversation
[10:48] <daniels> dholbach: he has a habit of persistently making #ubuntu-devel absolutely useless by flooding it with total nonsense
[10:48] <daniels> (there are other bans active on him; he just slipped through them)
[10:48] <dholbach> oh i see, so he doesn't seem to be impressed by bans in general
[10:50] <daniels> apparently not
[10:51] <dholbach> ok... it's alright with me... just wanted to know :-)
[11:05] <elmo> ogra: ?
[11:18] <dholbach> what's the most common way to add a .png to a package?
[11:18] <dholbach> if i do it "right" (not messing with orig.tar.gz), i run into "dpkg-source: cannot represent change to pixmaps/gparted.png: binary file contents changed"
[11:18] <azeem_> use uuencode/uudecode
[11:18] <bob2> if you have to add it to the diff, you can uuencode
[11:19] <bob2> but that sort of thing sounds pretty upstreamy
[11:19] <dholbach> they have their logo competition still going on :-)
[11:20] <dholbach> but a menu entry without an icon looks dumb
[11:20] <azeem> yay for logo competitions
[11:20] <dholbach> azeem, bob2: thanks for the clue
[11:33] <dholbach> elmo, you also send the mail to -users?
[12:25] <dholbach> bbl
[12:48] <ogra> elmo: ?
[12:49] <dholbach> morning ogra!
[12:49] <ogra> hi
[12:49] <HiddenWolf> seb128?
[12:50] <seb128> ?
[12:51] <HiddenWolf> Can it be that the window selector unlocks itself from panel every reboot?
[12:51] <HiddenWolf> workplace switcher, ugh.
[12:52] <seb128> no idea, I don't look on what is locked or not when I start my session
[12:52] <seb128> right click on the applet
[12:52] <seb128> and look in the menu
[12:52] <HiddenWolf> I've found it unlocked a couple of times. Is yours?
 no idea, I don't look on what is locked or not when I start my session
[12:54] <HiddenWolf> *sigh*
[12:54] <seb128> I don't even think I've one applet locked
[12:54] <HiddenWolf> ok
[12:55] <dholbach> seb128, metalikop worked a bit on  lfm  (python2.4, ..) - and i approved his changes - since you are the maintainer, is it ok, when i upload it?
[12:55] <dholbach> seb128, i could send you the debdiff in a /query
[12:56] <seb128> I got a mail about the package
[12:56] <seb128> you need to version the Build-Depends on python-dev to 2.4
[12:56] <seb128> out of this that's fine, go for it
[12:59] <dholbach> seb128, the buildd should resolve the Depends itself, so a rebuild would suffice
[01:00] <seb128> that's not a reason to do the wrong things
[01:01] <seb128> you use 2.4 in debian/rules, you should version the Build-Depends
[01:01] <dholbach> so you would tighten the build-depends and not let it compile with python2.3 anymore?
[01:01] <seb128> you have 2.4 in debian/rules
[01:01] <dholbach> oh... yes
[01:01] <dholbach> oh alright
[01:01] <seb128> you can change debian/rules to no use a static version
[01:02] <seb128> or update the Build-Depends
[01:02] <seb128> but the current situation is wrong
[01:02] <dholbach> ok... i'll tell him
[01:02] <seb128> thanks :)
[01:03] <dholbach> he also fixed 2 lintian warnings, so apart from the python stuff, he did well
[02:38] <dholbach> hi zul
[02:38] <zul> hey dholbach
[02:39] <zul> oooh....ahhh 2.6.10-4
[03:10] <mjg59> zul: Where?
[03:16] <zul> on my pc
[03:17] <zul> mjg59: i had to merge a couple of acpi patches though
[03:20] <daniels> Kamion: ping
[03:20] <daniels> lamont: ping
[03:21] <mjg59> zul: Ah, ok
[03:22] <daniels> hm, sleep time
[03:33] <sivang> hi all
[03:34] <dholbach> hi sivan!
[03:37] <sivang> hi dholbach , still reviewing packages?
[03:37] <dholbach> sivang, no... finished (until whiprush and metalikop wake up) :-))
[03:38] <dholbach> sivang, now i'm taking care of mine... and learning how to things properly :-)
[03:39] <sivang> dholbach: well, it's still sunday, you should go and have some time out :)
[03:40] <dholbach> sivang, will take murphy for a walk :-)
[03:40] <sivang> dholbach: my rgrds to her
[03:43] <dholbach> cdbs rocks
[03:43] <dholbach> i'm simply amazed
[03:59] <sid77> ciao
[04:04] <dholbach> mc
[04:04] <dholbach> oops
[04:08] <dholbach> amu, you're aware of (kdelibs-data: /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu zu berschreiben, which is in "gnome-menus" as well) already?
[04:17] <amu> dholbach: yep
[04:17] <dholbach> amu, good
[04:36] <dholbach> amu, yes.. i think i just have k3b and another app installed
[04:46] <sivang> seb128: hi, going over the g-c-m bugs I see most of them are upstream bugs, so basically we don't have too much specific problems local to ubuntu.
[04:47] <seb128> sivang: right
[04:51] <dholbach> bbl
[04:53] <pitti> Hi
[04:53] <sivang> pitti: Hi Marint!
[04:53] <sivang> err, Martin
[04:53] <pitti> Hi Svinag :-)
[04:53] <sivang> pitti: hehhe
[04:54] <pitti> sivang: just returned from skiing, was nice today
[04:54] <zul> hey pitti
[04:54] <sivang> pitti: wow, cool
[04:54] <pitti> Hi zul
[04:54] <zul> where did you go skiing?
[04:56] <seb128> afternoon pitti
[04:56] <pitti> Hi seb128, how's Luxembourg today? :-)
[04:57] <pitti> zul: in the vicinity of us, about 5 km away
[04:57] <zul> cool
[04:57] <pitti> zul: "Poisenwald" :-)
[04:57] <seb128> pitti: no idea, usually I stay on the french side of the border :p
[04:57] <pitti> seb128: oh, ok :-)
[04:58] <pitti> seb128: ah, you live _near_ the border, but not _within Lux., right?
[04:58] <seb128> yep, about 20km from the border
[05:00] <metalikop> morning all
[05:00] <metalikop> seb128: thanks for your email
[05:00] <seb128> hi metalikop
[05:00] <seb128> np, thank you for working on this :)
[05:17] <da_bon_bon> anyone here installed vmware from tarball ?
[05:29] <sivang> is bugzilla down?
[05:30] <HiddenWolf> sivang: seems to be
[05:30] <HiddenWolf> sivang: was a notice about it on -devel
[05:30] <sivang> HiddenWolf: yeah I saw it, tnx.
[05:30] <zul> sivang: you should read -dev more often ;)
[05:31] <sivang> zul: I read it , just forgot to do timezone calculations :)
[05:31] <sivang> zul: it's always open on my mutt :)
[05:31] <zul>  date --utc :)
[05:32] <sivang> zul: right :)
[05:39] <HiddenWolf> Can someone here put in the #ubuntu topic that the servers are down for maintenance?
[05:46] <HiddenWolf> seb128, you here?
[05:58] <dholbach> re
[05:59] <HiddenWolf> dholbach, can you change the topic in #ubuntu?
[05:59] <dholbach> HiddenWolf, i don't think so
[05:59] <HiddenWolf> *sigh*
[06:00] <dholbach> HiddenWolf, what's wrong with it?
[06:00] <HiddenWolf> It's overflowing with concerned users who can't update their warty's
[06:00] <HiddenWolf> Which was to be expected, seeing that ubuntu.com is down for maintenance
[06:33] <tseng> HiddenWolf: how many people read the topic? heh.
[06:35] <dholbach> tseng, you said, what i thought :-)
[06:36] <HiddenWolf> tseng: read the topic is shorter than explaining the entire thing. :-P
[07:48] <herzi> amu: ping
[08:01] <[m0rph] > hi, the new version of kdelibs in hoary overwrites the gnome /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu
[08:02] <dholbach> [m0rph] , the problem is known
[08:03] <[m0rph] > dholbach: oh, good
[08:06] <dholbach> and a solution worked on
[08:35] <tseng> anyone have a gphoto2 camera handy?
[08:36] <ari> yes
[08:36] <ari> wait, define "gphoto2 camera"
[08:36] <tseng> a camera that allows you to properly import photos using gphoto2
[08:36] <ari> ok
[08:36] <tseng> care do to a bit of testing for me?
[08:36] <ari> or rather, a camera supported in gphoto2
[08:36] <ari> sure, do i have to be running ubuntu? :)
[08:37] <tseng> yep, hoary even
[08:37] <ari> i suppose i could set up a chroot
[08:37] <tseng> hm that would take awhile, this is an X app
[08:38] <ari> probably not that long
[08:38] <ari> but i guess i should be doing homework instead
[08:38] <tseng> heh, that comes first certainly
[08:39] <tseng> if someone has hoary and a camera and wants to test gphoto2 import with f-spot.. ping me
[08:39] <ari> oh, it's just in f-spot 0.0.8?
[08:39] <tseng> yep.
[08:40] <tseng> someone mailed me a bug report saying it does:
[08:40] <tseng> Unhandled Exception: System.DllNotFoundException: libgphoto2.so
[08:40] <tseng> in <0x00053> (wrapper managed-to-native)
[08:40] <tseng> which I'm guessing is because libgphoto2-2 provides /usr/lib/libgphoto2.so.2
[08:42] <zul> hola
[08:44] <dholbach> hi zul
[08:44] <zul> hey dholbach
[08:45] <ari> tseng: there are a ton of DllImport("libgphoto2.so")s all over libgphoto2-sharp
[08:45] <ari> so yes, it's going to fail if libgphoto2-dev isn't installed
[08:46] <tseng> ari: yep.
[08:46] <tseng> but the bit in -dev is just a symlink
[08:46] <ari> right
[08:47] <tseng> interesting dilema, which package do I fix :P
[08:47] <ari> f-stop?
[08:48] <ari> er, f-spot
[08:50] <tseng> perhaps. I'm wondering how other apps find the right lib if we dont provide a symlink along with the runtime
[08:50] <tseng> know any other libgphoto2 apps?
[08:52] <ari> there are no other C# apps that use gphoto2
[08:52] <ajmitch> tseng: does mono not do some .so mapping?
[08:52] <tseng> doesnt have to be C# specifically
[08:52] <ari> regular C apps just link with the library
[08:52] <ari> and they use the system linker, so they're found correctly
[08:53] <tseng> of course they do, heh.
[08:53] <ari> but you want to use .so.2, no .so
[08:53] <ari> not
[08:53] <tseng> ajmitch: there are foo.config.exe
[08:54] <ajmitch>  /etc/mono/config appears to have some mappings there
[08:55] <tseng> yes, you can make those per .exe as well
[08:55] <tseng> but im not sure you can for a dll
[08:55] <ajmitch> anyway, I've got an exam in a few min, will bbl
[08:55] <tseng> we can certainly patch the source to hardcode .so.2
[08:56] <tseng> just.. there must be a more portable way I'd imagine.
[08:56] <ajmitch> that's nasty
[08:56] <tseng> ill talk to larry about it later.
[09:05] <tseng> thanks for helping out also, ari
[09:12] <marco_g> hi
[09:16] <pitti> Hai ogra
[09:16] <ogra> hi pitti
[09:16] <HiddenWolf> ogra! :)
[09:21] <Riddell> dholbach: who is working on a solution to the applications.menu issue?
[09:21] <dholbach> Riddell, talked to amu about it some hours ago
[09:22] <Riddell> dholbach: what did he say?
[09:23] <dholbach> Riddell, nothing specific...
[09:24] <Riddell> ok
[09:52] <tseng> ajmitch: ahh, you can have a .dll.config
[09:52] <tseng> ajmitch: issue solved.
[09:57] <tseng> seb128: I've just fixed a bug in my f-spot package
[09:59] <seb128> k
[10:00] <tseng> its ubuntu3 if you would be so kind as to look at it at some point
[10:00] <tseng> what was the outcome of your talk with the maintainer?
[10:37] <dholbach> i'm out running... bbl
[11:22] <Kamion> daniels: yo
[11:38] <zul> hey Kamion  how is it going?
[11:44] <Kamion> not bad, just back from visiting in-laws
[11:44] <Kamion> ... and back to find a PuTTY security advisory. Er, yay.
[11:44] <zul> putty for windows?
[11:45] <Kamion> putty runs on Unix too
[11:45] <zul> bleah...
[11:54] <deki_> hallo
[11:55] <deki_> i recompiled the kernel to test if the window rebuild gets quicker
[11:55] <deki_> i think i have found the reason why mandrake's grafikal interface is much quicker then that of ubuntu
[11:55] <deki_> their's libqt is linked against libgl
[11:57] <crimsun> implying that if the user has a hardware-accelerated GL set, then it's faster? I'm not sure how that would make Mandrake's "grafikal interface" faster on my S3 Virge, for instance
[11:57] <deki_> hmm
[11:57] <deki_> i don't know why but i say you the result: the windows rebuild is very very slow on ubuntu hoary comapred to mandrake 10.0
[11:57] <deki_> on same system
[11:58] <deki_> i have nvidia geforce 4mx
[11:58] <deki_> the mandrake has some older xfree version
[11:58] <deki_> something like 4.3.xxx
[11:58] <deki_> how can you explain it?
[11:59] <deki_> when i have one window like mozilla firefox
[11:59] <deki_> then i take xchat
[11:59] <deki_> and move it on top of mozilla
[11:59] <deki_> then i see a very big traces
[11:59] <deki_> moving traces
[11:59] <deki_> the system does not do anything
[11:59] <deki_> the cpu is idling
[12:00] <deki_> i get same effekt only when mandrake is loaded with compiing of something
[12:00] <deki_> so what could be the cause of it?
[12:00] <Kamion> this sounds like it ought to be in a bug report or something, not flooded into IRC
[12:00] <deki_> hmm thx