[00:08] <cmaloney> gamerchick02: That's awesome!
[00:31] <rick_h_> gamerchick02: no, my moto360 bit the big one so I just got a normal watch that doesn't need replacing every year
[00:38] <gamerchick02> :)
[00:39] <rick_h_> I thoght about a round pebble but they don't have it in steel, it's only 2 days battery, and it's $$
[00:39] <gamerchick02> i'm loving it right now
[00:39] <gamerchick02> it's great
[00:39] <gamerchick02> it's smaller. that's why i went with the round. :)
[00:40] <gamerchick02> i had a gift card
[00:41] <gamerchick02> two. so i got $125 off.
[01:37] <mrgoodcat> this is the new space for helloworld http://www.helloworld.com/insights/blog/culture/2015/11/13/it-was-a-big-move-on-our-part/
[12:12] <cmaloney> Good morning
[12:36] <_stink_> yo
[12:37] <rick_h_> morning
[12:51]  * dzho looks outside
[12:51] <dzho> yes, it is morning
[12:51] <rick_h_> thanks for checking. Always good to make sure one's working with sound assumptions
[12:52] <dzho> despite the -us-mi there could be a cross time-zone thing in operation
[12:52] <dzho> *could* be
[12:53]  * rick_h_ looks for greg-g...I think we're safe for a bit more
[12:53] <dzho> heh
[12:53] <dzho> still sleeping, or in the final throes of an all-nighter, either way
[13:14] <cmaloney> heh
[14:02] <mrgoodcat> mornin
[15:09] <widox> morning, from the land of PST
[15:09]  * widox yawns
[15:09] <rick_h_> widox: partying hard?
[15:10] <widox> rick_h_: trying to keep somewhat in sync with works EST schedule :-/
[15:10] <widox> I'm in Portland, OR until March
[15:10] <rick_h_> widox: nice!
[15:10] <rick_h_> widox: say hi to my coworkers
[15:11] <rick_h_> for work or for relaxing?
[15:11] <widox> left the warmth of the south for clouds and rain :D
[15:11] <rick_h_> hah
[15:11] <rick_h_> it's winter
[15:11] <widox> rick_h_: part of my 6 months of traveling
[15:11] <rick_h_> 6mo? nice!
[15:11] <widox> yeah, left in Nov will be back in Detroit in April
[15:12] <rick_h_> snowbird!
[15:12] <widox> hehe
[15:12] <rick_h_> and no snow here
[15:12] <widox> I'm sure not missing any cold and snow ;)
[15:20] <cmaloney> widox: Hey, welcome back!
[15:20] <cmaloney> We've missed you
[15:22] <widox> cmaloney: :)
[15:23] <widox> been awawy from the computer a lot more outside of working
[15:23] <widox> especially in portland, so many places to check out
[15:29] <rick_h_> I bet
[15:32] <cmaloney> heh
[15:32] <cmaloney> That's why we need you back in Michigan. ;)
[19:35] <mrgoodcat> can anybody suggest an xmpp client that doesn't suck?
[19:38] <_stink_> bitlbee?
[19:39] <jrwren_> Messages.app
[19:39]  * jrwren_ ducks
[19:39] <mrgoodcat> lol
[19:39] <mrgoodcat> i have a macbook
[19:40] <mrgoodcat> i was using iChat for a while
[19:40] <mrgoodcat> it's not ideal to say the least
[19:40] <jrwren_> sounds ancient
[19:40] <jrwren_> it hasn't been called ichat for 5yrs
[19:40] <jrwren_> or, well, maybe at least 3
[19:40] <mrgoodcat> oh well messages then
[19:40] <jrwren_> lol
[19:40] <mrgoodcat> i'm on el capitan
[19:40] <jrwren_> my wife uses pidgin
[19:41] <mrgoodcat> pidgin doesn't work on mac afaik
[19:42] <jrwren_> yeah, http://www.pidgin.im/download/mac/  says they recommend adium
[19:43] <mrgoodcat> adium is terrible
[19:43] <mrgoodcat> i tried it for a while
[19:43] <mrgoodcat> it loses connection frequently and has trouble connecting quite often
[19:45] <cmaloney> mrgoodcat: I have yet to find one
[19:45] <cmaloney> Pidgin is the best, and that's terrible.
[19:58] <mrgoodcat> fortunately it is easy to set up bitlbee
[19:58] <mrgoodcat> thanks jrwren_
[19:58] <mrgoodcat> er _stink_
[19:58] <mrgoodcat> sry
[19:58] <mrgoodcat> lol
[19:59] <_stink_> jasure
[22:25] <gamerchick02> https://plus.google.com/+AmyH42/posts/92PTH2pntnY here's my pebble time round! :)
[22:26] <gamerchick02> the lighting is kind of crap because it's at work but eh.


[01:34] <bjsnider> would the intel libdrm in karmic lpia be different than karmic i386?
[09:43] <kklimonda> hmm.. I can't get nouveau to boot anymore: http://pastebin.com/f69948a29 - after ureadahead finishes loading files I can see some kernel oops scrolling fast though terminal and then I get black screen
[10:03] <kklimonda> looks like it was a PEBKAC
[15:07] <Sarvatt> bjsnider: yeah if you try to backport a newer libdrm to karmic where libdrm-intel1 doesn't build on lpia
[15:16] <bjsnider> Sarvatt, i'm not talking about backporting anything, i'm just talking about what's int he archive. is the lpia build somehow different?
[15:16] <bjsnider> a ppa build i sent in failed on lpia because of a missing symbol
[15:17] <bjsnider> worked on amd64/i386 though
[16:07] <Sarvatt> bjsnider: if you're really building against libdrm 2.4.14-1ubuntu1 it should be fine but if you're building against a newer libdrm than that the rules need adjusting because libdrm-intel1 doesnt build on lpia
[16:10] <Sarvatt> heads up that the xorg-edgers/ppa might be broken for a bit later on today when I upload all the new nouveau stuff. got it all packaged now but not going to upload it until i'm home later incase something fails
[16:11] <Sarvatt> did a lbm-nouveau based off upstream nouveau with drm interface version 0.0.16 and libdrm 2.4.18 and mesa needs that newer libdrm to build now as well
[16:36] <bjsnider> Sarvatt, that's what happened. Apparently this need the libdrm-intel1 package
[16:36] <bjsnider> why doesn't that package build on lpia?
[16:37] <jcristau> i thought lpia was dead
[16:38] <bjsnider> not on karmic
[16:54] <Sarvatt> bjsnider: it does build on karmic with the libdrm in karmic, are you sure you're using 2.4.14-1ubuntu1? i looked at the rules in git for that release, maybe the one in the archive is different but that'd be a pretty major problem if it is
[16:56] <Sarvatt> you can use the libdrm ~karmic from edgers if you want to see if that works, i made sure it builds on lpia in there
[16:57] <Sarvatt> found another pretty major intel bug I've seen alot of complaints about - http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14997
[17:02] <tseliot> Sarvatt: maybe we just need this patch: http://bugzilla.kernel.org/attachment.cgi?id=25092
[17:03]  * tseliot is updating his lucid system with intel
[17:04] <Sarvatt> yeah got my eye on that bug, as soon as I see a fix go upstream i'll point the kernel people at it :D i dont have the problem but I've seen a few people in #ubuntu-desktop complain about not being able to close the lid
[17:05]  * tseliot nods
[17:13] <bjsnider> Sarvatt, what i mean is, the driver file i'm building needs the libdrm-intel1 package, which isn't on lpia. and i wondered why it wasn't.
[17:23] <jbarnes> bryceh: are you shipping libdrm 2.4.18 yet?
[17:23] <jbarnes> if not, you definitely should be :)
[17:23] <jbarnes> it has a few fixes for random hang bugs that were biting a lot of people
[17:24] <jcristau> i like how the libdrm 2.4.18 announce doesn't say anything about libdrm-radeon getting out of experimental status
[17:25] <jcristau> which is probably the most noteworthy change in there
[17:28] <Sarvatt> jbarnes: it's kind of sketchy, if we updated to libdrm 2.4.18 then all this nouveau stuff we just put in will be broken, I wish we could have had the 2.4.18 release 2 days earlier :D
[17:29] <jbarnes> Sarvatt: well maybe you could cherry pick the intel bits between .17 and .18 then
[17:29] <Sarvatt> yeah for sure
[17:32] <Sarvatt> i'll do that in git when I get home if noone else has
[17:40] <Sarvatt> argh, forgot libdrm/radeon: Fix section size mismatch to reset the section. was a bug fix we need as well, wish we could just use 2.4.18
[17:41] <jcristau> get .18, revert the nouveau interface changes, might be easier?
[17:41] <Sarvatt> well we could just revert nouveau: interface changes for 0.0.16 DRM and nouveau: bump MAX_PUSH to 512
[17:41] <Sarvatt> nouveau: Regenerate nouveau_class.h. breaks the ddx in lucid currently as well
[18:22]  * tseliot is uploading nvidia 195.xx
[20:11]  * tormod parses a couple of month's worth of irc backlog
[20:14] <tormod> everything set for Feature Freeze here? :)
[20:43] <tormod> Sarvatt, I saw your call for a newer intel-gpu-tools, I have asked Eric about a new upstream release
[21:08] <tormod> Sarvatt, me breaking ppa-purge -p? What was that about?
[22:16] <BUGabundo> on boot, GDM has horizontal green lines
[22:16] <BUGabundo> going to a TTY and doing $ sudo gdm stop
[22:16] <BUGabundo> seems to re-spawn GDM and I autologin


[21:27] <ubuntiste-msakni> Guys! Am arabic, and I find many SPAMS (in arabic) on the LP Answers section.. Is there a way to remove those spams?


[10:36] <vista_killer> ηι
[10:36] <vista_killer> hi
[10:38] <vista_killer> i still have this bug with the new kernel
[10:38] <vista_killer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/791089
[10:38] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 791089 in linux (Ubuntu) "crash after rebooting or shutting down from Ubuntu 11.04 (affects: 12) (dups: 1) (heat: 64)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[10:54] <jibel> vista_killer, you may find help about kernel issues on #ubuntu-kernel
[10:55] <vista_killer> ok thanks