[19:25] <sara-> well my lappy is next door and my flatmates using it, he wants to sit in the living room whilst watching his rats give birth... i need to hav the camera stream through the net to a site, and be able to watch it here in the sitting room
[19:25] <amen51> ikonia, thanks anyways
[19:25] <soundray> ESphynx: aye? apt-get does install dependencies for you...
[19:25] <ESphynx> strange
[19:26] <ESphynx> I would have thought it didn't... trying to instruct someone how to install my .deb package
[19:26] <ikonia> thebloggu: sure, check the xorg logs to see if there is a reason it's faling back, then start forcing xorg to use nvidia config if it likes it or not
[19:26] <Alex_Gaynor> soundray: I also don't have these crashing problems on windows, which si why I'm reticent to think it's a hardware issue
[19:26] <ziroday> ESphynx: what command are you giving him?
[19:26] <theatrus> but if memtest is basically locking up...
[19:26] <chipt4> Hi, I'm looking for help with my ubuntu server.. I am wondering if there's a way to browse what all packages are available through aptitude.. or more specifically, is there a package for phpmyadmin?
[19:27] <ikonia> chipt4: apt-cache search
[19:27] <theatrus> apt-cache search phpMyAdmin
[19:27] <ESphynx> ziroday i'm telling him to run synaptic right now :P
[19:27] <carandraug> chipt4: aptitude search phpmyadmin
[19:27] <ikonia> chipt4: if you use the desktop ubuntu install you can use the synaptic gui whic makes things much easier
[19:27] <ESphynx> oh ziroday, it's cause my package isn't on the Ubuntu repo
[19:27] <thebloggu> ikonia, http://paste.ubuntu.com/91033
[19:27] <Tetracomm> Could you recommend a decent video editor for Linux?
[19:27] <ESphynx> so apt-get doesn't work, it's the other dpkg or what not installer command
[19:27] <Gnea> sara-: well, unless you're willing to pay someone in here, you're going to have to do it yourself (and if it breaks and you have no 'net access, then how would you fix it if you don't know how to do it?)
[19:27] <thebloggu> ikonia, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:28] <ziroday> ESphynx: thats correct, if he's using ubuntu you can ask him to download the .deb package and then double click to install it
[19:28] <chipt4> k, it returned 'phpmyadmin - Administrate MySQL over the WWW'  so is 'phpmyadmin' the package name, and the rest the description?
[19:28] <ESphynx> ziroday double click runs synaptic by default?
[19:28] <jonaskoelker> hello all.  I've enabled sticky keys and flagged "Disable on simult. keypress" to off, yet I keep getting popups asking me if I want to turn sticky keys off when I press two keys at the same time.  How do I turn the popups off?
[19:28] <chipt4> ikonia: it's a server, i'm ssh'd in
[19:28] <theatrus> dpkg is a backend package manager, it won't go finding deps for you, but it still enforces them
[19:28] <theatrus> chipt4, yup
[19:28] <carandraug> chipt4: yes
[19:28] <ziroday> ESphynx: gdebi runs on double click for .deb packages
[19:28] <chipt4> awesome guys, thanks
[19:28] <ijustam> what's the word on pulseaudio
[19:28] <ijustam> is still a pile
[19:29] <ijustam> is it*
[19:29] <tiyowan> thebloggu: According that it, x is still having trouble detecting your display.
[19:29] <chipt4> also, i've heard you're not supposed to use apt-get, instead use aptitude install.. is this correct?  i'm on 8.04 lts
[19:29] <ziroday> ijustam: it depends on what you are doing
[19:29] <soundray> Alex_Gaynor: Ubuntu and memtest86 are different enough that if both crash, I would blame the hardware. Also, it crashing 10 minutes after booting points toward hardware.
[19:29] <ikonia> thebloggu: most interesting according to that it's using the nvidia driver ok, and it likes the logo option, but it's not displaying it
[19:29] <ESphynx> ziroday : right and i think gdebi doesn't work to get dependencies, but synaptic does
[19:29] <ikonia> chipt4: no, apt-ge tis fine
[19:29] <jonaskoelker> chipt4: apt-get and aptitude are fairly interchangable
[19:29] <ijustam> ziroday: i dont even know if i use it
[19:29] <ikonia> chipt4: apt-get is fine
[19:29] <ijustam> but my sound doesn't work so i want to blame it :s
[19:29] <jonaskoelker> chipt4: aptitude is slower, has more search options and writes a nice log file.
[19:29] <chipt4> right on.. thanks
[19:29] <ziroday> ESphynx: gdebi _should_ do dependencies but can't be certain :)
[19:30] <jonaskoelker> chipt4: pick your tradeoff ;)
[19:30] <soundray> Alex_Gaynor: I wouldn't be surprised if it crashed under MS Windows, too, if you ran something demanding.
[19:30] <chipt4> i'm in no hurry and log files are always nice, so i'll stick with aptitude :)
[19:30] <thebloggu> ikonia, dont know what to do..
[19:30] <jonaskoelker> ijustam: pulseaudio@ubuntu works fine for me.  pa@debian otoh... :(
[19:30] <tiyowan> ikonia: nvidia-settings is also detecting thebloggu's LCD as a CRT.
[19:30] <chipt4> thanks a million, you guys are really helpful [and not snooty like some linux channels! :) ]
[19:30] <thebloggu> ikonia, really i think it may be better to install 8.04
[19:30] <Alex_Gaynor> soundray: I do a fair amount of demanding work under windows(and I actually was't doing anything demanging under Ubuntu) soundray: Doesn't the fact that memtest crashes point to it being a hardware, but not memory, I would think memtest is specifically built to survive bad memory so it can test it
[19:30] <ikonia> thebloggu: I can work this through with you in 35 minutes as I said, but I'm about to get off a train and not on a good connection to do this
[19:31] <ikonia> tiyowan: crt doesn't really make a big deal any more, it's just a name, what is important is that it can't get the edid info for the monoitor
[19:31] <Delvien> SSH problem, I connect through the same network its fine and takes my RSA fingerprint, when i connect from outside the network it says RSA fingerprint aut failed.
[19:31] <ikonia> thebloggu: if you want to install 8.04 please do so
[19:31] <tiyowan> ikonia: *nod*
[19:31] <erisch> i can ping my router but i cant ping a ubuntu pc or a windows pc, any ideas? firewalls of windows is offline
[19:31] <soundray> Alex_Gaynor: I can't answer that definitively, but your argument sounds reasonable
[19:31] <sonoma> ´╗┐/join #xubuntu
[19:31] <ikonia> erisch: what command are you using exactly
[19:32] <erisch> ikonia: ping ip
[19:32] <Alex_Gaynor> soundray: Any idea as to how I could go about diagnosing it(whatever *it* is)
[19:32] <ikonia> erisch: please show me the exact command
[19:32] <thebloggu> ikonia, i woukd like to solve the problem but since the support of my card is low maye it's better to go back
[19:32] <thebloggu> ikonia, or should i try to solve it ?
[19:32] <der|kunstler> after coming from sleep, my network doesn't work, is this  a known problem ?
[19:32] <joejc> if i upgrade to jaunty would that fix my problem with compiz and mt drivers?
[19:32] <ikonia> thebloggu: according tot he docs that card is still supported
[19:32] <soundray> Alex_Gaynor: is your direct working environment cold?
[19:32] <ikonia> joejc: no
[19:32] <erisch> ikonia: ping 192.168.xxx.xxx
[19:32] <ikonia> erisch: and what is your current ip address
[19:32] <jonaskoelker> erisch: how does the network look?  (PC1)---(router)----(PC2)?  Or is there an internets inbetween?
[19:33] <reepime> Can someone help me?  I have lost my ability to use sudo
[19:33] <thebloggu> ikonia, what do you think i should do ?
[19:33] <ikonia> erisch: fyi 192.168 addresses are non-routable so it doesn't matter if you share them with us
[19:33] <ikonia> thebloggu: your call totally
[19:33] <jonaskoelker> reepime: whata happens when you try?
[19:33] <Alex_Gaynor> soundray: Not really any more, and the laptop is warmer to the touch than when I first powered it on this morning
[19:33] <reepime> reepime is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[19:33] <joejc> any one know what would fix my problem with compiz and my drivers?
[19:33] <ziroday> der|kunstler: what network card do you have?
[19:33] <erisch> ikonia: ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:33] <thebloggu> ikonia, you think this problem is simple to solve ?
[19:33] <ikonia> thebloggu: my connection will drop any second now
[19:33] <der|kunstler> ziroday, forcedeth module, nvidia MPC55
[19:33] <soundray> Alex_Gaynor: I'd take it outdoors to see if it runs for longer there. If it does, it points to the hardware again.
[19:34] <ikonia> erisch: and your current ip address is
[19:34] <der|kunstler> ziroday, let me get you the exact info
[19:34] <thebloggu> ikonia, ok, no problem
[19:34] <Gnea> joejc: what problem?
[19:34] <ikonia> erisch: where are you pinging it from
[19:34] <ghost3> hi, my brothers are going to iraq at the beginning of next year. they are wanting to know if they could make a ubuntu recovery partiton on the laptops. cd's and sand do NOT get alone and the less they have to carry with them the better. I did a google search with no results. any help would be nice.
[19:34] <erisch> jonaskoelker: no internet in between, pc-router-pc, everything is in a local lan
[19:34] <Alex_Gaynor> soundray: ok thanks
[19:34] <ziroday> der|kunstler: ah right, erm you can try rmmod the driver before you sleep and then modprobe it on wake
[19:34] <jonaskoelker> reepime: mine looks like this: http://rafb.net/p/7YkPau51.html
[19:34] <thebloggu> ikonia, do you know when you're coming back ?
[19:35] <der|kunstler> ziroday, ah, that does the trick right ? coming back from sleep it does modprobe again ?
[19:35] <jonaskoelker> reepime: download it.  Reboot your box; in grub, edit your kernel command line to say init=/bin/sh
[19:35] <erisch> ikonia: my current adress is <IP_ADDRESS>, its a local area network
[19:35] <reepime> grub?
[19:35] <der|kunstler> ziroday, I did rmmod after the wake though...
[19:35] <joejc> before i upgraded to 8.10 they worked fine but now when i install and reboot i get and error and need to use default graphics configuration
[19:35] <ziroday> der|kunstler: hmm? For now manually I am saying rmmod the driver then go to sleep. When you wake up modprobe the driver again. If that works we can set it up to work automatically. If it doesn't we can try something else :)
[19:35] <der|kunstler> ziroday, I try to run dhclient on the NIC, but the thing is it stays forever sending DHCP requests
[19:35] <tiyowan> thebloggu: Could you wait for ikonia to get off that train and onto a better connection?
[19:36] <jonaskoelker> reepime: [grub: two seconds] once linux has booted, type cp /home/reepime/sudoers /etc/sudoers; chown root:root /etc/sudoers; chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers; init 6
[19:36] <der|kunstler> ziroday, is there a script that runs on wake ?, like /etc/local but for wake ?
[19:36] <jonaskoelker> reepime: when you boot, "press ESC to enter boot menu"
[19:36] <thebloggu> tiyowan, maybe.. he said 35 minutes right ?
[19:36] <Gnea> joejc: what video card?
[19:36] <soundray> der|kunstler: I think something in /etc/acpi.d/
[19:36] <joejc> nvidia
[19:36] <ziroday> der|kunstler: there is, the settings are under /etc/hibernate I believe. But just _try_ it out manually first.
[19:36] <Gnea> joejc: model #?
[19:37] <reepime> Ok, thanks.
[19:37] <der|kunstler> soundray, ziroday got it... I'll go to sleep and come back w/results
[19:37] <der|kunstler> brb
[19:37] <tiyowan> thebloggu: Yep. If you want, I could do some more digging for you? I'd really like to see your problem fixed. :)
[19:37] <jonaskoelker> reepime: or some text like that.  Press ESC, then use the arrow keys to select the topmost thing that does not say single user mode; type "e" to edit... somewhere in there, I can't remember exactly, but you should edit the line that says something with "kernel" and vmlinuz
[19:37] <Gnea> joejc: lspci | grep VGA
[19:38] <joejc> GeForce 6150SE nForce 430
[19:38] <Somali-Pirate> #trivia?
[19:38] <Exceptiul> sorry for asking here, but what means "take a bow" expression?
[19:38] <soundray> Exceptiul: don't ask here. Then you don't have to be sorry.
[19:39] <Exceptiul> yea.. tnx for answer
[19:39] <soundray> Exceptiul: #ubuntu-offtopic may be more welcoming.
[19:39] <der|kunstler> soundray, ziroday back... it worked
[19:40] <erisch> ikonia: any ideas?
[19:40] <Gnea> Exceptiul: you're better of googling it or asking in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:40] <joejc> it means to take a bow its metiphorical but literal
[19:40] <beli> does someone here have a slian sc92031 nic and can send me the drivers pls?
[19:40] <der|kunstler> ziroday, ok, your solution worked, reloading the module after wake worked
[19:40] <Exceptiul> ok, tnx
[19:40] <thebloggu> tiyowan, i dont have 53 minutes unfornately..
[19:40] <thebloggu> tiyowan, in fact i have to go unfonately..
[19:41] <thebloggu> tiyowan, really sorry really
[19:41] <der|kunstler> soundray, ok, now we have scripts that run pre-wake and post-wake in /etc/acpi.d ?
[19:41] <Awsoonn_> Can I use my USB-ADSL modem connection in ubuntu 8.10?
[19:41] <Gnea> joejc: do you have the nvidia driver installed?
[19:41] <misix> i want to install Ubuntu and OpenBSD on the same machine
[19:41] <misix> what would i install first?
[19:41] <soundray> der|kunstler: sorry, it's /etc/acpi/ and I think the script that runs afterwards is resume.sh
[19:41] <tiyowan> thebloggu: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=669903. Bookmark this link. This is *almost* your card with your model. It's ok.
[19:42] <der|kunstler> soundray, yeah, /etc/acpi/suspend.d ?
[19:42] <Gnea> Awsoonn_: yes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbAdslModem
[19:42] <der|kunstler> soundray, it contains 70-modules-unload.sh, which unloads all the modules.. .that's run when suspending correct ?
[19:42] <thebloggu> tiyowan, take my email thebloggu at gmail dot com
[19:42] <thebloggu> we'll be in contact ok ?
[19:42] <joejc> Gnea: when i install the driver i get an error when i reboot
[19:43] <soundray> der|kunstler: probably. I'm not claiming expertise.
[19:43] <thebloggu> thank you very much for your help
[19:43] <thebloggu> really
[19:43] <Gnea> joejc: did you install 177 or 173?
[19:43] <joejc> iv tried all 3
[19:43] <der|kunstler> soundray, I think I know what's going on... there's $MODULES_WHITELIST, apparently the forcedeth module is not unloaded
[19:43] <Gnea> joejc: that's not what I asked.
[19:43] <Gnea> joejc: what is installed right now?
[19:44] <HairyDude> how do I install debug symbols for firefox? firefox-3.0-dbgsym seems to depend on a version of firefox-3.0 that is unavailable
[19:44] <thebloggu> tiyowan, ikonia have to go now, sorry
[19:44] <thebloggu> thank you
[19:44] <jeff008> hspaans i don't know if it 'll be better
[19:44] <joejc> none i need to use default graphics config if i want to use computer
[19:44] <AJC_Z0> When inserting removable media (CD, DVD, etc.), how do I add an application to the list of apps which are associated with that media?
[19:44] <der|kunstler> soundray, heh!... I'll hack it a little to unload and load, I can play with those scripts, thanks a lot! :D
[19:44] <Gnea> joejc: okay, i recommend 173 and try again
[19:44] <Awsoonn_> Gnea: that paget tells me to look at the list of adsl modems to find what driver I need, but ther eis no link to such list. any help there?
[19:44] <AJC_Z0> The list in the pop-up window, that is
[19:44] <joejc> iv tried 173,177, and 96 none work
[19:44] <hspaans> jeff008: sorry?
[19:45] <joejc> but ok
[19:45] <Commie_Cary> why is my computer not reconizing my lightscribe drivwer
[19:45] <jeff008> cause whith the cd live , i coul'd install drivers wifi to connct my computer on the net
[19:45] <Gnea> Awsoonn_: which one do you have?
[19:45] <ziroday> der|kunstler: sorry was eating breakfast, has soundray got you sorted?
[19:45] <Gnea> joejc: well, 173 is the one that supports your card.
[19:46] <der|kunstler> ziroday, yeah, you both. I'll add a line to /etc/acpi/suspend.d/70-modules-unload.sh to remove the module on suspend, then I'll add another line to /etc/acpi/reload.d/35-modules-load.sh, to load the module on resume
[19:46] <Awsoonn_> Gnea: I should note that lsusb says I have an 'analog devices' based product. but it's branded as ZOOM ADSL Series 0376
[19:46] <joejc> ill tell u if it works after i reboot
[19:46] <ziroday> der|kunstler: sounds good
[19:46] <der|kunstler> ziroday, it's a BUG probably, module forcedeth is not safe to leave loaded on suspend. It must be removed from $MODULES_WHITELIST
[19:47] <Gnea> Awsoonn_: yeah, it doesn't matter what it says on the outside usually
[19:47] <soundray> der|kunstler: it might be more appropriate to make those settings in /etc/default/acpi-support
[19:47] <HairyDude> never mind, sources.list said hardy when it should have said intrepid
[19:47] <Gnea> joejc: sounds good
[19:47] <JuleTecki> Hi there, can anyone tell me why my /etc/networking/interfaces is read-only as root? 8.10 server
[19:47] <jeff008> and whith the alternate i don't know how to have a consol tty
[19:47] <jeff008> it the reason why i try to install hardy on lvm2 with the live cd ;)
[19:47] <der|kunstler> soundray, lemme check that file, I don't like hacking and breaking things :/
[19:47] <ziroday> der|kunstler: its possible, however different people have different mileage, plus the forcedeth driver is open source, or not?
[19:48] <der|kunstler> ziroday, correct
[19:48] <der|kunstler> soundray, MODULES_WHITELIST is on that config, but it's empty, apparently the module is unloaded ?... maybe
[19:48] <Awsoonn_> Gnea: I clicked the link to ueagle-atm as teh most obvious choice but the information there is only up to date for 7.04
[19:48] <ziroday> der|kunstler: then I would file a bug with the forcedeth maintainers saying that it doesn't play nice with suspend
[19:48] <der|kunstler> ziroday, do you have info on how to get to them  ?
[19:49] <shanenvy> How do I completely download something once the file is on my desktop?
[19:49] <natbet> how would I install a .patch file? It's a patch to fix some errors in synergy.
[19:49] <ziroday> der|kunstler: not on me currently, I can try and find it if you would like?
[19:49] <der|kunstler> soundray, actually, there's something really neat on that config:  "Add modules to this list to have them removed before suspend and reloaded"
[19:49] <Gnea> Awsoonn_: no, that should work just fine
[19:49] <ziroday> shanenvy: can you rephrase your question?
[19:50] <soundray> der|kunstler: :)
[19:50] <der|kunstler> ziroday, that would be good. Are the bugs tracked through launchpad ?
[19:50] <Gnea> Awsoonn_: try it and see what happens - i bet you it works :)
[19:50] <nexus23> my clock keeps changing
[19:50] <der|kunstler> soundray, heh! :P
[19:50] <shanenvy> The file is on my desktop, but it's not downloaded, what do I do?
[19:50] <nexus23> i used tzselect to select my time zone
[19:50] <ijustam> where is Trash kept?
[19:50] <nexus23>  .Trash ijustam
[19:50] <ziroday> der|kunstler: ubuntu bugs yes, forcedeth probably not
[19:50] <Gnea> !trash | ijustam
[19:50] <der|kunstler> soundray, I think the only thing that is not already thought on ubuntu, is the key to understand women :P
[19:50] <ijustam> ubottu: ahh thx
[19:51] <der|kunstler> soundray, heh! must be in the docs someday :P
[19:51] <roozbeh> HI Guys
[19:51] <der|kunstler> ziroday, got it
[19:51] <roozbeh> I have a problem
[19:51] <Gnea> !bot | ijustam
[19:51] <shanenvy> ziroday: The file is on my desktop, but not downloaded, how do I download it?
[19:52] <roozbeh> _ruben: HI
[19:52] <ziroday> shanenvy: erm open up firefox, go to the downloads window and redownload it?
[19:52] <der|kunstler> ziroday, another question... the config is lost on restart, if I set up static IP addresses on the network manager...
[19:52] <shanenvy> Whenever I download something it never works unless it's a terminal code.
[19:52] <ziroday> der|kunstler: hmm it appears the forcedeth drivers are unmaintained, I would file the bug in launchpad for now
[19:52] <joejc> im back, it didnt work
[19:53] <bernier> Hi, is it normal that everytime I want to install nvidia drivers usung apt-get, apt tries to uninstall xserver-xorg?
[19:53] <ziroday> der|kunstler: and not sure about network manager. Sorry.
[19:53] <der|kunstler> ziroday, ok, I will post a bug and see how can it be resolved
[19:53] <Foxkilo_> Trying to get dual monitors to work on an old radeon 7000 and 8.1 Which drivers should I use?
[19:53] <Gnea> joejc: did you reconfigure X to point to nvidia?
[19:53] <der|kunstler> ziroday,  I think the networkmanager stuff was reported already
[19:53] <joejc> no
[19:53] <Gnea> joejc: okay, it won't work until you tell it to use it
[19:53] <joejc> ok
[19:54] <joejc> how do i?
[19:54] <JuleTecki> Hi there, can anyone tell me why my /etc/networking/interfaces is read-only as root? 8.10 server
[19:54] <Gnea> joejc: check System->Administration->Hardware Drivers
[19:54] <der|kunstler> ziroday, I'll reboot and see if it works, brb
[19:54] <joejc> ok
[19:54] <Gnea> !server | JuleTecki
[19:55] <Delvien> Is there a support channel for SSH by chance?
[19:56] <ghost3> hi, my brothers are going to iraq at the beginning of next year. they are wanting to know if they could make a ubuntu recovery partiton on the laptops. cd's and sand do NOT get alone and the less they have to carry with them the better. I did a google search with no results. any help would be nice.
[19:56] <aboSamoor1> how can I apply fstab changes without restarting the server ?
[19:57] <Geomancer> Would anyone be willing to help me with my pptp connection problems? I've been working on it for a couple of weeks now.
[19:57] <joejc> gnea: after i go to hardware drives what do i do?
[19:57] <Gnea> joejc: do you see anything listed there?
[19:57] <trentor> Does anyone know of any problems running wine in ubuntu, whenever I click my install button nothing happens...
[19:58] <joejc> yes the the 173 witha green light next to it and the two other drivers
[19:58] <trentor> 173 nvidia driver?
[19:59] <Gnea> joejc: are the other 2 drivers nvidia or something else?
[19:59] <joejc> ghost3: you could install ubuntu on a external hd
[19:59] <joejc> nvidia
[19:59] <Gnea> trentor: depends on the program - not all of them work
[20:00] <ghost3> joejc: what copying the alt install cd image and have grub boot the image. could I get it to do that?  if so how would I go about doing that so they can reinstall?
[20:00] <Gnea> joejc: okay, clearly something is wrong then.  please open a terminal and type this:  dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[20:01] <trentor> Gnea:  The odd thing is that the install button does nothing, I've been having a lot of problems with buttons and itemsin ubuntu not working
[20:01] <aboSamoor1> trentor: try running wine filename in terminal
[20:01] <Gnea> joejc: sorry... dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep nvidia
[20:01] <Slart> trentor: your install button? I can't remember a install button.. for wine? or for some program?
[20:01] <Gnea> trentor: which 'install' button, exactly?
[20:02] <trentor> For wine, I got to uninstall wine, then "Install.." button to install software.  I am not really sure why it would have me go to the wine "uninstaller" to go to install my windows software.
[20:02] <donavan_> is there any way to use the ctrl key like you would in windows ... as in I want to select multiple items by holding the ctrl key while clicking ?
[20:02] <trentor> And wine in the terminal can only run programs, it cannot install them to my knowledge
[20:02] <ziro`_> how can one get a list of groups via cli?
[20:02] <Gnea> donavan_: yes, it 'just works'
[20:02] <joejc> gnea: this is what i got; ii  nvidia-173-kernel-source                   173.14.12-1-0ubuntu4                          NVIDIA binary kernel module source
[20:02] <joejc> ii  nvidia-173-modaliases                      173.14.12-1-0ubuntu4                          Modaliases for the NVIDIA binary X.Org drive
[20:02] <joejc> ii  nvidia-177-modaliases                      177.80-0ubuntu2                               Modaliases for the NVIDIA binary X.Org drive
[20:02] <joejc> ii  nvidia-71-modaliases                       71.86.04-0ubuntu10                            Modaliases for the NVIDIA binary X.Org drive
[20:02] <FloodBot3> joejc: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:03] <ziro`_> all available groups for example
[20:03] <joejc> ii  nvidia-96-modaliases                       96.43.09-0ubuntu1                             Modaliases for the NVIDIA binary X.Org drive
[20:03] <RobotCow> !paste
[20:03] <joejc> ii  nvidia-common                              0.2.4                                         Find obsolete NVIDIA drivers
[20:03] <Gnea> joejc: i recommend using pastebinit
[20:03] <Slart> trentor: oh... that's an odd way.. why not just run the windows installer file instead
[20:03] <Weems> when I tried to install nvidia: 180 I got this  http://pastie.org/345094
[20:03] <Gnea> joejc: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[20:03] <RobotCow> !tell joejc about pastebin
[20:03] <donavan_> Gnea: I wish that were the case ... is there something I can check to see what is going wrong ?
[20:03] <Gnea> donavan_: weird that it's not working right... are you using nautilus?
[20:03] <ghost3> ok. better question. could I copy the ubuntu alt install cd image to its own partiton and add a grub menu option to boot and reinstall ubuntu? if so could someone give me some direction please? thanks
[20:03] <SantaCoz> hey guy we have a fellow with a unichrom video chipset that has the apparopriate driver already downloaded but needs someone to walk him through the installation ... the read me file is rather complex for a new user   can anyone do that for him ?
[20:03] <trentor> slart:  will linux recognize windows msi files along with the exe files?
[20:04] <Slart> trentor: have you tried? I'm not sure
[20:04] <The_Joe_> trentor, Only with Wine or equivalent
[20:04] <trentor> I'm half tempted to try winelib after this :S
[20:04] <Gnea> lunchtime.
[20:05] <donavan_> Gnea:it doesnt seem to work no matter what I am in even in virtualbox ... the key board works cause I can do a ctrl-alt-backspace and it works no problem
[20:05] <Slart> trentor: this page seems to offer some help.. http://wiki.jswindle.com/index.php/Wine_MSI
[20:05] <joejc> how does pastebinit work?
[20:05] <donavan_> Gnea: and just for the record it doesnt not work in nautilus either
[20:06] <ziroday> joejc: try doing cat command | pastebinit
[20:06] <Slart> joejc: here's an example ... ls | pastebinit will send the output from ls to a pastebin and resturn the url
[20:06] <Gnea> joejc: dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep nvidia > file.txt && cat file.txt | pastebinit && rm file.txt
[20:06] <Gnea> donavan_: works just fine here
[20:06] <Slart> joejc: cat /var/log/syslog | pastebinit will copy the file /var/log/syslog to pastebin etc
[20:06] <Gnea> donavan_: perhaps your keybindings got caught up
[20:06] <Slart> joejc: cat itself just prints out a file
[20:06] <trentor> Does anyone have a helpful internet link as to understanding how linux installing works in comparrison to windows.  I recently made the switch to linux and that is a main aspect I am struggling with.
[20:07] <donavan_> Gnea: any idea how I check that
[20:07] <Slart> !install
[20:07] <Slart> bah.. wrong factoid
[20:07] <Flannel> trentor: What do you mean "linux installing"?  Installing software?  installing the whole OS?
[20:07] <trentor> installing software
[20:07] <Gnea> !keybinding | donavan_
[20:07] <Gnea> !shortcuts
[20:07] <Flannel> trentor: !components | trentor
[20:07] <Slart> trentor: most software in linux is installed by downloading something called a package awesomeprogram.deb, it very similar to a msi file in windows.
[20:08] <Flannel> !components | trentor
[20:08] <kb2wdi> \quit
[20:08] <Flannel> trentor: That one will discuss how the repositories work (first and second), this will give you an overview of the (more complicated/detailed) way of installing stuff: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[20:08] <Geomancer626> Any suggestions at all on what to do about my vpn problems? I'm running a dd-wrt router as my gateway and if I'm actually connected to the dd-wrt then I have no problems with pptp. However, it doesn't work when connecting from another network.
[20:08] <Slart> trentor: there are several different package systems.. apt (used by debian and ubuntu) uses deb-packages, fedora/redhat uses .rpm packages.. suse has yet another one I think
[20:08] <Flannel> trentor: The easier way is through "add/remove programs", which is somewhat self explanatory (check what you want, install it)
[20:09] <joejc> gnea: http://pastebin.com/f42e6991e
[20:09] <Foxkilo_> Trying to get dual monitors to work on an old radeon 7000 and 8.1 Which drivers should I use?
[20:10] <benedek> trentor: for Ubuntu, look for "debian packages" (ending: .deb), you can install most of them easily
[20:10]  * ElijahDuBarryVT is away: You will linger on in darkness and in doubt, as nightfall in winter, that comes without a star. Here you will dwell bound to your grief under the fading trees, until all the world is changed and the long years of your life are utterly spent.
[20:10] <Flannel> trentor: Of course, Synaptic is the same way (select what you want, hit apply, it installs), it just gives you the entire repositories to choose from, which means you'll en up seeing libraries, etc.
[20:10] <Flannel> !away > ElijahDuBarryVT
[20:10] <Flannel> benedek, trentor: no, you don't need to go fishing around the internet for debs, check the repositories, it's probably there already.
[20:11] <benedek> trentor: also check the synaptic manager, it might have more packages
[20:11] <trentor> See, I've been having lots of mysterious problems with installing software.  Like I installed EnvyNG because my nvidia card was not working with extra graphics, but yet I cannot find EnvyNG nor Wine on my add/remove programs even though they are installed.
[20:12] <Gnea> joejc: okay, you need to:  sudo apt-get remove nvidia-177-modaliases nvidia-71-modaliases nvidia-96-modaliases, reboot, make sure 173 is selected and is set to 'green', then pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file (in that order)
[20:12] <benedek> trentor: how exactly did you install EnvyNG?
[20:12] <Flannel> trentor: Right, add/remove only shows you a small subset of the programs available.  Use synaptic package manager to seeeverything
[20:12] <ziroday> trentor: on the drop down list did you select "All Applications"?
[20:12] <trentor> ziroday: yes
[20:12] <Slart> trentor: add/remove might only show you a selection of packages.. try running synaptic instead (system, administration, synaptic)
[20:12] <trentor> I installed envyNG through terminal, and I believe wine too, dont remember tho
[20:13] <Slart> trentor: does "sudo apt-get install wine" look familiar?
[20:13] <benedek> trentor: if you didn't install it through the package manager (apt-get or dpkg), then it won't be in the list of applications
[20:13] <zhobbs> I've installed the flash deb from adobe and have tried sym linking and copying libflashplayer.so to /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.5/plugins and firefox still won't see it
[20:13] <trentor> i know what that command is :P  I dont remember if I installed it through their .deb file, I think when i installed the deb file it threw an error then did sudo apt-get install wine
[20:14] <trentor> ah ok, thank you benedek
[20:14] <cousteau> weird, Firefox should be able to see Adobe Flash since the moment you installed it
[20:14] <ardchoille> Whoa, gthumb has a tool that creates very nice looking photo galleries for websites. I didn't know that existed :)
[20:14] <Flannel> trentor: It will show up in synaptic
[20:14] <cousteau> do you have another Flash version instaled?
[20:14] <benedek> trentor: no problem :)
[20:14] <iratik> Here it goes ... my cron broke when upgrading to ubuntu hardy from ubuntu dapper
[20:14] <trentor> see, even searching "wine" under all in synaptic it shows nothing
[20:15] <Flannel> trentor: Even if you just installed it manually (download the deb, and install it manually, and it'll still show up)
[20:15] <cousteau> zhobbs: do you already have another Flash installed?
[20:15] <zhobbs> Flannel, don't know...this is a fresh install
[20:15] <benedek> trentor: yeah, wine should be there
[20:15] <Flannel> trentor: Pastebin the output of `apt-cache policy wine`
[20:15] <fr500-work> hey
[20:15] <zhobbs> cousteau, this is a fresh install, so I didn't manually install it until I d/l'd the deb from adobe
[20:15]  * ElijahDuBarryVT is back (gone 00:05:15)
[20:15] <joejc> restarting...
[20:16] <trentor> http://paste.ubuntu.com/91066/
[20:16] <cousteau> zhobbs: if you open Firefox and go to Plugins, it should be a Shockwave plugin
[20:17] <zhobbs> cousteau, not there
[20:17] <Flannel> trentor: yeah. You installed it manually (download the deb, install the deb), but that should still show up in synaptic
[20:17] <cousteau> ... 32 bits or 64?
[20:17] <zhobbs> cousteau, 32
[20:17] <trentor> Is it better to install programs in ubuntu through the terminal or manually
[20:17] <Flannel> trentor: also, if you want to use the winehq version, you should add the winehq repository, not just download individually
[20:18] <cousteau> did you restart Firefox after installing Flash?
[20:18] <Flannel> trentor: it doesn't matter.  Terminal is easier for instruction over IRC, obviously
[20:18] <zhobbs> cousteau: yes, several times
[20:18] <benedek> I have a problem in Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex; every time I start the system, Ubuntu sees the ethernet card as a "new" one, so it uses another eth name (instead of eth0). I'm at eth81 now and I have to reconfigure it every time I start the system.
[20:18] <Flannel> trentor: All of the apt frontends work with the same data, so you can switch back and forth at will, etc.  It's a lovely thing ;)
[20:18] <cousteau> including ChatZilla, if you are using it?
[20:18] <trentor> It is, <3 linux
[20:18] <zhobbs> cousteau: not using Chatzilla
[20:18] <wos> hi. can anyone tell me how to install skype for i386 on a x86_64 system?
[20:19] <zhobbs> cousteau: checked to make sure firefox wasn't running in ps
[20:19] <trentor> This is the first time using linux it is not giving me a hard time, tried a lot in the past but only having success now, something must have changed in the last few years :P
[20:20] <zhobbs> cousteau: installing via: sudo dpkg -i install_flash_player_10_linux.deb
[20:20] <wos> hello. could anyone tell me how to install a i386 app on a 64 bit system?
[20:20] <cousteau> aptitude show adobe-flashplugin ?
[20:21] <RobotCow> dpkg -i --force-architecture 32bitpackage.deb
[20:21] <whyameye> zhobbs: I put my libflashplayer.so in /usr/lib/xulrunner-addons/plugins to get ff to find it.
[20:21] <wos> RobotCow, you talking to me?
[20:21] <RobotCow> yes
[20:21] <wos> THANKS
[20:21] <Gnea> joejc: any luck?
[20:21] <benedek> wos: there also appears to be instructions in the Ubuntu forums; google it
[20:22] <joejc> no
[20:22] <Gnea> joejc: got the xorg.conf ready?
[20:22] <joejc> one sec
[20:23] <zhobbs> ahh, there is output from the firefox command: LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so [libnss3.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory]
[20:23] <gnome_fan> hello avery one
[20:23] <gnome_fan> any one here
[20:24] <cousteau> how can I set which program uses gnome-open to open certain file type?
[20:24] <RobotCow> cousteau, right click file in nautilus, properties, open with tab
[20:24] <alex_21> I want to put Ubuntu on my phone, but I cant figure out if my phone is supported
[20:24] <joejc> how do i use pastbin?
[20:24] <RobotCow> alex_21, is there not an HCL?
[20:24] <cousteau> RobotCow: that's the problem, it doesn't affect gnome-open, only Nautilus
[20:24] <joejc> i thoight i got it but i dont
[20:25] <trentor> joe go to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[20:25] <cousteau> e.g. MP3's are open with Amarok from Nautilus, but with VLC from gnome-open
[20:25] <whyameye> cousteau: they are both the same user? (gnome-open and nautilus?)
[20:25] <cousteau> yes
[20:26] <cousteau> and sudo nautilus opens them with Totem
[20:26] <Hipokrytie> hello
[20:27] <LTL> RobotCow: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[20:27] <zhobbs> cousteau, whyameye, Flannel: thanks for the help, looks like I had to create some sym links: http://linuxowns.wordpress.com/2008/08/12/install-flash-player-10-rc-on-ubuntu/
[20:27] <Tim__Reichhart> I need help on removing the RSA from my apache server can anybody help?
[20:27] <nintendork32> !sdl
[20:27] <nintendork32> :\
[20:27] <nintendork32> Is there a package for SDL on the repositories?
[20:27] <joejc> gnea: http://paste.ubuntu.com/91074/
[20:28] <nintendork32> I'm trying to buold dosbox and it requires sdl 2.30
[20:28] <RobotCow> alex_21, try searching your phone model on ubuntuforums.org
[20:28] <cwillu> Tim__Reichhart, #apache may be of more use, although a2enmod and a2dismod may be what you're after
[20:29] <cousteau> nintendork32: no idea; look for it here http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=sdl
[20:29] <cousteau> but dosbox is on repos
[20:29] <cwillu> Tim__Reichhart, debian, ubuntu, etc use a slightly non-standard config setup for apache (same file formats, but split up across files in a way that makes working with apt alot easier
[20:29] <benedek> nintendork32: you can look like this: apt-cache search libsdl
[20:29] <CntryTousrTrout> Does anyone know why my videos on the web ect. youtube. Has no sound and the picture is very choppy, and keeps stopping/starting. I do have plain sound on websites though, just not videos.
[20:29] <Pici> nintendork32: Why are you building it from source?
[20:30] <Quagmire> I'm embarrassed to ask this, but what is the best way to go about seeing if a certain factory built computer is ubuntu compatible? I had to shelve running ubuntu on my new Asus x83 laptop (no DVD support) and I've found a pretty decent deal on a Dell Inspiron 1525 laptop for around $400, but I need to find out if it is compatible.
[20:30] <cousteau> sudo aptitude install dosbox
[20:30] <manzur> have anyone in here got problem with metacity composite manager┬┐?
[20:30] <nintendork32> Pici, it's not on the repositories
[20:30] <cwillu> manzur, more specific?
[20:30] <Slart> Quagmire: search the forums for the model/manufacturer.. or bring a live cd to a store that sells it
[20:30] <Pici> !info dosbox
[20:30] <cwillu> manzur, I usually just use xcompmgr directly (xcompmgr is embedded in metacity to provide compositing, but none of the options are exposed)
[20:30] <cousteau> and yes, installing dosbox installs some "libsdl" stuff
[20:30] <Pici> nintendork32: Yes it is.
[20:31] <Slart> Quagmire: there are hardware compabilities lists too.. but knowing exact what chipsets are in a laptop can be hard
[20:31] <wos> sudo dpkg -i --force-architecture 64bitpackage.deb <<<< there is no such package
[20:31] <nintendork32> Pici: where?
[20:31] <manzur> cwillu: for example when i am watching a video and i have this (composite manager) enabled i can watch my videos i mean i get a black screen in totem
[20:31] <nintendork32> ahh okay
[20:31] <Pici> nintendork32: In Universe
[20:31] <cwillu> manzur, compiz doesn't work on your machine?
[20:31] <erisch> im in a lan with a router, i can ping the router and internet pages, but i cant ping windows or linux pcs in my lan. any ideas?
[20:31] <manzur> cwillu: no in 8.10
[20:31] <alex_21> So If I install it on my phone, can I compile apps on it
[20:31] <cwillu> manzur, eh?
[20:32] <manzur> it is not workin in ubuntu 8.10
[20:32] <Quagmire> ~[ Slart ]~ I have a pretty detailed list of all the hardware
[20:32] <cwillu> manzur, ...okay
[20:32] <puzzola> ciao
[20:32] <cwillu> manzur, turn off the compositing option in gconf-editor, and install xcompmgr
[20:32] <cousteau> wos: you must download the package to a folder and then type "sudo dpkg -i --force-architecture" and the name of the package
[20:32] <manzur> cwillu: have u get the same problem as me
[20:32] <manzur> ?
[20:32] <alex_21> Loke, the goal is installing Ubuntu so I can use Orca on my phone
[20:33] <Slart> !hardware | Quagmire
[20:33] <cwillu> manzur, I don't have problems :p
[20:33] <cwillu> manzur, but seriously, turn off metacity compositing, and use xcompmgr instead to troubleshoot this
[20:33] <manzur> cwillu: i have done thatand using cairo comnposite amnager
[20:33] <manzur> ?
[20:33] <puzzola> xorg.conf ...che  e'?
[20:33] <Slart> !it | puzzola
[20:34] <manzur> cwillu: have u used cairo composite manager?
[20:34] <LTL> erisch: perhaps those boxes do not answer ICMP requests, try nmap -P0 ip-address
[20:34] <puzzola> ok ty
[20:34] <Slart> puzzola: but I'm guessing.. /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:34] <Quagmire> Slart thank you
[20:34] <Geomancer626> Can anyone help me figure out what's the problem with my pptp vpn connection. I'm trying to connect to a dd-wrt router running v24 sp1. It worked until a few weeks ago when it suddenly stopped. If I try to connect from within the network that the dd-wrt router is on, then it works perfectly. However, if I try to connect from a different network, then it fails. using tail to follow system logs gives the following        pppd 2.4.
[20:34] <Geomancer626> Dec 22 13:47:50 Geomancer pppd[6611]: Using interface ppp0
[20:34] <Geomancer626> Dec 22 13:47:50 Geomancer pppd[6611]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/pts/2
[20:34] <Geomancer626> Dec 22 13:48:22 Geomancer pppd[6611]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
[20:34] <FloodBot3> Geomancer626: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:34] <Geomancer626> Dec 22 13:48:22 Geomancer pppd[6611]: Connection terminated.
[20:34] <Geomancer626> Dec 22 13:48:22 Geomancer pppd[6611]: Modem hangup
[20:34] <Slart> Quagmire: you're welcome
[20:34] <alex_21> Ok, the goal is installing Ubuntu so I can use Orca on my phone
[20:34] <manzur> cwillu: have u used metacity composite manager and everything has gone good
[20:34] <manzur> ┬┐?
[20:35] <Pici> alex_21: The ubuntu mobile community is in #ubuntu-mobile, they may be able to help you more.
[20:35] <cwillu> manzur, this has no bearing on your problem.  I've used in a several machines, although I've preferred to use xcompmgr to gain access to some fairly important options
[20:35] <manzur> cwillu: what options for examnple
[20:35] <manzur> ?
[20:36] <Pici> manzur: Matacity is not a compositing window manager. Compiz is.
[20:36] <Pici> s/Matacity/Metacity/
[20:36] <manzur> Pici: but it has one
[20:36] <cwillu> manzur, as I said, metacity's compositing manager _is_ xcompmgr, built internally.  Which means you don't have access to any of the options which work around issues with particular cards, etc
[20:36] <cwillu> manzur, clientside vs server side is the big one
[20:36] <Quagmire> Slart One more thing ...how do I report a CD/DVD drive that is not compatible? I think it would be wrong to not let the powers that be know about my problem.
[20:36] <benedek> my Ubuntu Intrepid is giving the eth device a new number with each start; I'm at eth81 now, and I have to reconfigure it every time.
[20:36] <Xitruz> Hey people. I have a problem. I have a Laptop with Ubuntu on it. Everything works fine except the Wireless internet connection. Anyone have suggestions on how to fix this? Its an ASUS C90S.
[20:36] <championsleague> hello
[20:36] <manzur> cwillu: and tell me something after installing xcompmgr?
[20:36] <cwillu> the -a option (Use automatic server-side compositing. Faster, but no special effects.) usually makse things work
[20:36] <joejc> gnea u get my message ?
[20:36] <Slart> Quagmire: hmm.. I think there is a hardware detection thingy in one of the menus
[20:37] <axod> hi I'm trying to install on a mac mini, and the keyboard was detected at the startup thing, but when I boot into ubuntu, it's not.... nor is the mouse. Any ideas?
[20:37] <Slart> Quagmire: ah.. in system, administration, hardware testing
[20:37] <Quagmire> are you talking abou the links yo sent or inside of ubuntu?
[20:37] <manzur> cwillu: *after installing xcompmgr what do i have to do to enable it?
[20:37] <Pici> !who
[20:37] <Adam-85> Hi all
[20:37] <donavan_> if I am using 8.04 and keep it updated is there any reason to upgrade to 8.10?
[20:37] <cwillu> Pici, metacity has an embedded version/fork of xcompmgr since 7.10.  It's got all the buggyness of xcompmgr, without any of the options to work around them :p
[20:37] <Adam-85> I new one at Ubuntu
[20:37] <Gnea> joejc: sorry, had to take a call. checking now
[20:38] <cwillu> manzur, for now, just run it in a terminal ('xcompmgr')
[20:38] <Pici> donavan_: If you don't want to, you don't have to.
[20:38] <Slart> Quagmire: you might need a launchpad account to be able to file the report.. but you'd need that anyways for reporting bugs and such
[20:38] <Adam-85> and need some help , can anyone do that for me
[20:38] <dirki> hey guys what is the current ubuntu desktop os?
[20:38] <Pici> !ask | Adam-85
[20:38] <cwillu> manzur, if/when you get the right set of options, just add the same command line to your gnome session (system | preferences | sessions)
[20:38] <Pici> donavan_: 8.10
[20:38] <Gnea> joejc: okay, open a terminal and run this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[20:38] <dirki> k ty
[20:38] <championsleague> 8.10
[20:38] <donavan_> Pici: is it going to give me anything better aside from a new version number
[20:38] <Adam-85> ok Ubottu
[20:39] <manzur> cwillu: how do i set options?
[20:39] <YamiFrankc> Someone can help me to get my wifi card to work?(im using Hardy Heron)
[20:39]  * ranok chuckles
[20:39] <cwillu> manzur, xcompmgr --help
[20:39] <cwillu> manzur, will list them
[20:39] <Adam-85> How to install gcc compiler as offline
[20:39] <Xitruz> No one hase any clue about fixing wireless on my laptop? :/
[20:39] <Gnea> !wifi | YamiFrankc
[20:39] <ranok> Adam-85: huh?
[20:39] <Gnea> !laptop | Xitruz
[20:39] <manzur> cwillu: is there any gui for this
[20:39] <manzur> ?
[20:39] <Xitruz> tried everything :(
[20:39] <cwillu> manzur, no, but it's not like it's a complicated command
[20:39] <manzur> cwillu: ok
[20:39] <Gnea> Xitruz: i doubt it. what laptop is it?
[20:39] <Pici> donavan_: Each version has more up-to-date packages, theres some more pulseaudio fixes in 8.10.
[20:39] <Adam-85> and i downloaded files  like gcc-core-3.4.5.tar.bz2
[20:40] <manzur> cwillu: why do u think i am presenting this problems?
[20:40] <Xitruz> Gnea: its an ASUS C90S
[20:40] <ranok> Adam-85: download the .deb, and then dpkg -i it
[20:40] <cwillu> manzur, ctrl+c in the terminal to kill it and try another set of options
[20:40] <championsleague> donavan the team has worked very hard under the hood and the system is very safe beautiful than ever and stable
[20:40] <Pici> Adam-85: The best way would be to use this website to download the build-essential package: http://apt.alturl.com/
[20:40] <joejc> Gnea: http://paste.ubuntu.com/91086/
[20:40] <donavan_> Pici: but if im using the auto updates wouldnt I get them anyways
[20:40] <manzur> cwillu: which options
[20:40] <manzur> ?
[20:41] <cwillu> manzur, experiment with the ones that talk about compositing
[20:41] <Adam-85> confused , deb or bz2 or what
[20:41] <cwillu> manzur, -n/-s/-a
[20:41] <Pici> donavan_: No. We don't really do non-security updates for past releases.
[20:41] <ranok> Adam-85: .deb
[20:41] <manzur> cwillu: what is that for
[20:41] <manzur> ?
[20:41] <championsleague> donavan_ the team has worked very hard under the hood and the system is very safe beautiful than ever and stable
[20:41] <cwillu> manzur, xcompmgr --help says what they're for
[20:41] <Pici> Adam-85: Use http://apt.alturl.com/ . Enter build-essential as the package name, and ubuntu-desktop as the metapackage name.
[20:41] <cwillu> manzur, man xcompmgr goes into a bit more detail
[20:41] <Adam-85> I downloaded it , but when istall it ask me for a libc++6 nad i cann't find it with my files
[20:41] <manzur> cwillu: ok
[20:41] <benedek> Adam-85, the .bz2 file is probably the source code; You would need gcc to build that, I guess
[20:42] <manzur> cwillu: but anwer my questiopn
[20:42] <Gnea> Xitruz: what driver are you trying to use?
[20:42] <Akiv1> Hey all, trying to burn a DVD from an .ISO with this command: growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=dvd.iso
[20:42] <Akiv1> I am getting an error /dev/dvd: 2295104 blocks are free, 2297360 to be written!
[20:42] <Adam-85> yeah
[20:42] <Pici> Adam-85: The URL I gave you will give you links to all the dependencies that you need.
[20:42] <manzur> cwillu: why do u think i am getting this problems
[20:42] <manzur> ?
[20:42] <Gnea> joejc: looks good, now ctrl-alt-backspace
[20:42] <Akiv1> It sounds like the DVD doesn't have enough space, but its 4.7 gigs and the ISO is only 4.3
[20:43] <Xitruz> Gnea: I am currently trying to install a windows driver "atheros 7.6.0" using ndisgtk.. but it aint working too well
[20:43] <cwillu> manzur, because xcompmgr is a largely abandonned, buggy piece of code that's largely obsolete except for a few cards that don't have a particular extension needed to do a minimum acceleration of compiz
[20:43] <iso50> Why is my Add/Remove Applications blank ?
[20:43] <Akiv1> Anyone have any ideas?
[20:44] <manzur> cwillu: and metacity composite manager is abandoned as well┬┐?
[20:44] <championsleague> which is better linux or unix?
[20:44] <cwillu> manzur, and very little was done to fix any of those problems when it was included in metacity as its compositing mode (hence why it's not enabled by default, or exposed in any preferences page)
[20:44] <benedek> iso50: do you view "All available applications" and is your search filter empty?
[20:44] <iso50> benedek: Yes
[20:44] <Geomancer626> Can anyone help me figure out what's the problem with my pptp vpn connection. I'm trying to connect to a dd-wrt router running v24 sp1. It worked until a few weeks ago when it suddenly stopped. If I try to connect from within the network that the dd-wrt router is on, then it works perfectly. However, if I try to connect from a different network, then it fails.
[20:44] <Gnea> joejc: and?
[20:45] <cwillu> manzur, what videocard/driver are you running?
[20:45] <joejc> im in low grphics mode
[20:45] <manzur> cwillu: i845
[20:45] <joejc> should i restart?
[20:45] <AMorozov> Hi!
[20:45] <cwillu> Geomancer626, there'll be an option in the router to do some munging to make vpn's work
[20:45] <tiki> Hello all, I'm looking for a user with the nickname mako
[20:45] <Gnea> joejc: sure
[20:46] <LTL> Geomancer626: just a guess, disable DMSmasq in dd-wrt
[20:46] <donavan_> Ok let me try this again ... maybe im not making myself clear.... I have 8.04 running now with all available updates installed .... if I upgrade the OS to 8.10 will I actually get anything new? or were all the updates already taken care of by the update manager within 8.04.  If the only thing I am going to get from the upgrade is a new version number then I'm not going to bother.
[20:46] <cwillu> Geomancer626, (pptp vpns include the machine's public ip in the encrypted packets, which breaks when using a nat router)
[20:46] <Gnea> Xitruz: have you tried this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/iwlwifi_Intel_3945_4965/gutsy
[20:46] <LTL> Geomancer626: dnsmasq, typo, sorry.
[20:46] <cwillu> donavan_, there's new stuff in 8.10 that won't be in 8.04
[20:46] <donavan_> cwillu: thank you
[20:46] <manzur> cwillu: sera que gnome 3 ira a trabajar en estas animaciones de ventanas y sombres, transparencias, etc?
[20:46] <tiki> Hello all, I'm looking for a user with the nickname mako, does any of you know her or seen her around, please if you have just tell me bcz i really need to talk to this user, just need to know this user is still around
[20:46] <championsleague> which is better mac os x or linux(ubuntu)
[20:46] <cwillu> donavan_, some packages are in the -backports repository, but intrepid has changes under the hood that won't ever be included in an update to 8.04
[20:47] <sara-> hi howd i mount a usb stick so it will boot?
[20:47] <Geomancer626> Okay, I'll try to disable dnsmasq
[20:47] <IdleSanta> i'm getting 1.0mb average transfer rates using scp over lan is that good/bad?
[20:47] <cwillu> manzur, try again in english, sorry :p
[20:47] <AMorozov> Does anybody know if it's possible to synchronize a Philips 9@9k mobile phone with Linux / KDE applications ?
[20:47] <Gnea> sara-: plug it in and tell your bios to boot from USB
[20:47] <AMorozov> say addressbook or calendar.
[20:47] <sara-> Gnea, i would but it locked my bios
[20:47] <iso50> does anyone know?
[20:47] <cousteau> championsleague: mac is very closed, you rarely can use your own hardware
[20:47] <cwillu> IdleSanta, it's not particularily fast, might be cpu bound, or you might have some 10mbit hardware in there
[20:48] <Gnea> sara-: 'it'?
[20:48] <benedek> my Ubuntu 8.10 is giving the eth device a new number with each start; I'm at eth81 now, and I have to reconfigure it every time. I've tried changing the udev rule to set it as eth0, but the network manager won't recognize it then. Any help?
[20:48] <sara-> trying to reinstall ubuntu eee
[20:48] <manzur> cwillu: sorry
[20:48] <sara-> thats a hardy release
[20:48] <manzur> cwillu: i did not realize that
[20:48] <IdleSanta> cwillu, could be
[20:48] <manzur> cwillu: do u think that gnome 3 is going to work in animations, fade, transparencies, etc
[20:48] <manzur> ?
[20:48] <Gnea> benedek: yeah, edit your /etc/udev/rules.d/75-persistent-net-generator.rules and delete them out of it
[20:48] <championsleague> cousteau what do you mean closed?
[20:48]  * iso50 needs help!
[20:49] <AMorozov> I've connected the phone (via its UDB cable) and can see the device node (/dev/bus/usb/002/003). But nothing more...
[20:49] <cwillu> manzur, #gnome on gimpnet would be a better place to ask :p
[20:49] <Gnea> benedek: if they're not there, try /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[20:49] <Hangwire> lol
[20:49] <championsleague> by saying closed
[20:49] <sara-> i want to wipe my eee so i can load / INSTALL the eee version of ubuntu
[20:49] <Xitruz> Gnea: No I'm not that "secure" in my linux-skills so I havent tried that one yet. :P
[20:49] <benedek> Gnea, I tried the second one (there were a lot of eth??s), but as I said, the network manager doesn't see it
[20:50] <manzur> join #gnome
[20:50] <CrocoJet> Will NVIDIA even make their "PureVideo Technology" for hardware accelerated video decoding available under Linux?
[20:50] <joejc> Gnea: my resulution is way higher and it was at max before
[20:50] <Gnea> benedek: you'll have to restart then - what kind of nic do you have?
[20:50] <benedek> Gnea, ifconfig sees it, though, I but I can't get route to work with that
[20:50] <Devyll> hello , I need to reinstall everything that contains or relates to the xorg server .. or X11 .. or gnome ... everything .. is there a tutorial or howto for this ?
[20:50] <cwillu> manzur, I'm already there, but you're not.  #gnome isn't on freenode, it's on gimpnet
[20:50] <Gnea> joejc: so it's working now?
[20:50] <cwillu> there may be a #gnome here, but I doubt anyone interesting is there :p
[20:50] <CrocoJet> asking because would like see some videos 1080p
[20:50] <cwillu> Devyll, back up a step
[20:50] <cwillu> Devyll, why do you need to?
[20:50] <benedek> Gnea, I'm not sure...I tried restarting, though
[20:50] <plaskut> hello room
[20:51] <cousteau> I mean that when you buy a Mac, you buy what they give you, can't configure the hardware
[20:51] <Gnea> benedek: okay... is the nic builtin or is it usb or what?
[20:51] <benedek> Gnea, it's either built in or PCI
[20:51] <cousteau> anyway, that's the same than buying a laptop
[20:51] <Gnea> Xitruz: i suggest giving that a go instead of wasting your time with ndiswrapper
[20:51] <benedek> Gnea, wait, I'll check
[20:51] <Gnea> benedek: ok
[20:51] <openudK> castillo
[20:52] <manzur> cwillu: how can i do to get a gimpnet sessionm
[20:52] <manzur> ?
[20:52] <joejc> i didnt get an error when i booted, the driver is enabled, but still no compiz
[20:52] <johannes__> hi, I want to uninstall wine using make, what target shall "make --uninstall" refer to?
[20:52] <castillo> si?
[20:52] <johannes__> what kind of file?
[20:52] <castillo> tellme?
[20:52] <LTL> !ccsm | joejc
[20:52] <plaskut> why can't i get my fluxbox wallpaper to show?
[20:52] <openudK> privado y te cuento lo del mldonkey?
[20:52] <cwillu> manzur, irc.gimp.org is the server
[20:52] <Gnea> castillo: tell you what?
[20:52] <joejc> i did that
[20:52]  * cwillu pokes Devyll with a stick
[20:53] <Devyll> cwillu , I want to reinstall it because it's very old and I think there are some conflics .. after the final update.. also .. many customization have been made to the config files (OSx menues .. ) and many other .. just want to reinstall everything to have a clean Gnome ... without compiz and other things .. just to enjoy speed and usability and everything to be secure and up to date
[20:53] <openudK> Gnea, castillo <-> and me, sorry
[20:53] <carandraug> !es | openudK
[20:53] <LTL> joejc: did you restart X
[20:53] <Gnea> joejc: you have to System->Preferences->Appearance->Visual Effects
[20:53] <Stanlin> hi,
[20:53] <cwillu> Devyll, that's unrelated to x
[20:53] <benedek> Gnea, I'm still not sure, but I'd guess it's built in
[20:53] <openudK> ok carandraug
[20:53] <Gnea> benedek: laptop or desktop?
[20:53] <benedek> Gnea: it worked in the last Ubuntu and in Gentoo (with changing udev)
[20:53] <benedek> Gnea: desktop
[20:53] <cwillu> Devyll, might be easier to just back up your home directory and reinstall
[20:54] <cwillu> Devyll, you could also make a new user
[20:54] <openudK> only enter for speak with castillo, sorry
[20:54] <youknowme> I'm having trouble with Pidgin and YIM, my login information is correct and most times there is no problem, but sometimes I get this error, and now I can't stop getting this error "Could not establish a connection with the server:
[20:54] <youknowme> Error resolving scs.msg.yahoo.com:
[20:54] <youknowme> Name or service not known" Help?
[20:54] <Gnea> benedek: is the ethernet port on the backplane with the USB, keyboard, mouse, serial ports or part of the PCI slot region?
[20:54] <cwillu> Devyll, most of the desktop settings are stored in your home directory (various files and folders that start with '.' and are hence hidden by default)
[20:54] <openudK> castillo, private for comment mldonkey?
[20:54] <joejc> gnea: i did that not even normal works.
[20:54] <Crewsr3> Can someone help me set up irc on my pigeon buddy list, I would like to have a few different servers and different irc channels
[20:54] <benedek> Gnea: first one
[20:54] <championsleague> which is better mac os x or ubuntu?
[20:54] <Devyll> cwillu , reinstall the hole system ? ..
[20:54] <Stanlin> what is the name of the ATI/NVIDIA program that installs the drivers automatically?
[20:54] <Gnea> benedek: then it's builtin
[20:55] <Gnea> !better | championsleague
[20:55] <whyameye> Stanlin: envy, but I wouldn't recommend it for new ubuntu versions.
[20:55] <horstle> hi
[20:55] <Xitruz> Gnea: the thing is I ain't using "ipw" as the guide is referring to. :/
[20:55] <cwillu> Devyll, make a new user via admin and log in, see if that's what you had in mind
[20:55] <IndyGunFreak> youknowme: what version of pidgin?
[20:55] <cwillu> Devyll, if so, you can clean up your other user by comparing the folders involved
[20:55] <Stanlin> whyameye: im using 64 bits Ubuntu 8.10... should i use the propietary drivers tested by developers??
[20:56] <Gnea> joejc: weird.. okay, can you please:  cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[20:56] <Devyll> cwillu , already did that .. ist's working very slow ...
[20:56] <youknowme> IndyGunFreak: 2.5.2
[20:56] <cwillu> Devyll, but if you've done lots of mucking about while learning, and just want everything cleaned up, just reinstalling might be an easier option
[20:56] <Gnea> Xitruz: well, you should, since that's what the C90S has... unless your lspci says otherwise
[20:56] <wiildchild> i want to know if anybody use openbox in this channel
[20:56] <Devyll> cwillu, you must be right .. I think I will reinstall the whole system. thank you for your support
[20:56] <IndyGunFreak> youknowme: dunno, i just signed on to my yahoo account and it works fine... is it possible you've got it blocked via router or something?
[20:56] <Stanlin> !ati
[20:56] <wiildchild> I have somme questions
[20:56] <whyameye> Stanlin: yes I use the proprietary drivers for 64 bit 8.04 nvidia. Works great.
[20:57] <benedek> Gnea: are there any criteria when the Network Manager sees an interface? It seems weird to me that I don't have to enter the password when I change something there
[20:57] <cwillu> Devyll, that you have conflicts in the package manager isn't a great sign.  It can be cleaned up, (and would be a good learning experience), but's it's quite involved
[20:57] <joejc> Gnea: http://pastebin.com/f9278e2e
[20:57] <hwilde> anybody know ssh config?   I need to hook up my .ssh/config so that it does the equivalent of    ssh -tt serverA ssh serverB
[20:57] <Gnea> benedek: i'm not sure what you mean...
[20:57] <Geomancer626> I had no luck after disabling dnsmasq. What should I try next?
[20:57] <Crewsr3> Can someone help me set up irc on my pigeon buddy list, I would like to have a few different servers and different irc channels
[20:57] <Adam-85> Again
[20:57] <youknowme> IndyGunFreak: Thanks. My router is a Linksys with ddwrt, I never had any probs with it before, plus my windows machine with yim works fine. :/
[20:58] <IndyGunFreak> Crewsr3: thats really something to ask in #pidgin as its application specific... why not just use a real IRC client?
[20:58] <cwillu> Devyll, I _think_ you can just reinstall and resize the original partition.  Either way, you might want to consider setting up a seperate partition for /home when you install, makes experimenting with different distros alot easier, reinstalls, etc
[20:58] <youknowme> IndyGunFreak: ANything else you could think of?
[20:58] <Adam-85> I downloaded libc6_2.8~20080505-0ubuntu7_i386.deb and when install ask me for findutils
[20:58] <benedek> Gnea: Well, if I leave everything as it is, the network manager in Gnome sees eth81 as a wired network device. I can change its settings as a normal user (it doesn't prompt me for a password).
[20:58] <Adam-85> and i downloaded it and installed it
[20:58] <IndyGunFreak> youknowme: no... sorry..
[20:58] <cwillu> Devyll, on the other hand, my computer hasn't been reinstalled since I put 4.10 on it :)
[20:58] <Adam-85> but still ask me for it
[20:58] <championsleague> how can i update pidgin?
[20:58] <youknowme> IndyGunFreak: Thanks anyway
[20:58] <Crewsr3> IndyGunFreak, I just thought it would be helpful to sign into pigeon when I turn on my computer and have the ubuntu server/channel running in pideon
[20:59] <Xitruz> Gnea: my "rule-file" says I am using "sky2" and "ath9k"
[20:59] <cwillu> Adam-85, I'm looking something up for you, one sec
[20:59] <benedek> Gnea: So maybe it doesn't see my eth0, which I made by changing the udev rules, because I don't have the rights. Or I might be seeing this entirely wrong :-/
[20:59] <Adam-85> ok
[20:59] <Crewsr3> IndyGunFreak, would you recommend having my IRC program load up that way?
[20:59] <IndyGunFreak> Crewsr3: you can do that if you want, but, and this is strictly opinion, Pidgin is not a very good irc client
[20:59] <IndyGunFreak> Crewsr3: thats what i would do...
[20:59] <lsashme> I want to know what device my infrared port is on my laptop: irdadump works fine (picking up my phone nicely) but I can't find a single device in /dev that seems to have anything to do with it.
[20:59] <johannes__> I installed something using make, how can I uninstall it?
[20:59] <cwillu> Adam-85, also, could you switch to a nick that doesn't have quite so many collisions?  I keep getting Adam -, adam 7, etc by mistake :p
[21:00] <patrol1985> guys, I have a question - is Amarok 2.0 available for Ubuntu 8.10? All I can see on Amarok homepage is the installation information for Kubuntu, but none for Ubuntu :/
[21:00] <lsashme> johannes__: you might be able to do make uninstall if the makefile is written that way.
[21:00] <Adam-85> no
[21:00] <Adam-85> I use Adam-85
[21:00] <Crewsr3> IndyGunFreak, I have not been able to try it so I dont know how good it is.....how do I set up Xchat to open several servers and channels at boot up.
[21:00] <Gnea> benedek: you have to edit the file by using sudo
[21:00] <Xitruz> Gnea: ath9k is for the wlan
[21:00] <Geomancer626> What sort of settings would I need to change cwillu?
[21:00]  * cousteau disliked BestBot
[21:01] <benedek> Gnea: Which one? The one in /etc/udev/... ?
[21:01] <Stanlin> whyameye: works!!
[21:01] <benedek> Gnea: I already did that, but after a reboot, the Gnome Network Manager doesn't see it
[21:01] <johannes__> lsashme what do I need to do? got to the folder and type sudo make uninstall Makefile ?
[21:01] <IndyGunFreak> Crewsr3: its easy when you look through it... I've got xchat to open up 3 servers when I started it.. 2 servers have 2 channels, and 1 server has 3 channels.. its quite easy..
[21:01] <benedek> Gnea: Only ifconfig. I can get into the intranet, but not the internet.
[21:01] <johannes__> the makefile understands uninstall
[21:01] <Stanlin> whyameye: thank you , i just moved from Vista 64 PenUltraUltimate... which sucked crashed all the time.... and im stable in Ubuntu again
[21:01] <cwillu> Adam-, that's nice.  anyways, use synaptic on a machine with a net connection, select the packages you want to install (but don't apply), and then under file use 'generate a package download script', run the resulting file, and take _all_ of the downloaded files to the machine without a connection
[21:01] <lsashme> johannes__: I would think you would just type sudo make uninstall
[21:02] <Stanlin> what is better Vmware or Virtualbox??
[21:02] <lsashme> johannes__:  make should know to use the makefile
[21:02] <Crewsr3> IndyGunFreak, I will play around with it, thanks
[21:02] <DIFH-iceroot> Stanlin: there is no best, just check both programs
[21:02] <IndyGunFreak> patrol1985: you could just compile it from source
[21:02] <rebel_kid> stanlin, best is a matter of opinion, for general use virtual machines i recommend the OSE version of virtualbox
[21:02] <Gnea> benedek: is it still trying to increment?
[21:02] <gabislabici> is there enywhone that can help me config Dns?
[21:02] <cwillu> Adam-85, here's hoping that works, because I've got very little patience for people who don't make things easy on the volunteers
[21:02] <johannes__> it works! thanks
[21:02] <benedek> Gnea: With every start of the system.
[21:02] <Stanlin> rebel_kid: vbox supports USB ?
[21:03] <lsashme> johannes__: Glad to help!
[21:03] <Gnea> benedek: something is seriously wrong. when did you install?
[21:03] <cwillu> Geomancer626, you're looking for something about vpn passthrough
[21:03] <benedek> Gnea: Some days after 8.10 got released, and I've been upgrading.
[21:03] <Adam-85> What do you mean ?
[21:03] <Geomancer626> Oh yeah, Already enabled passthrough.
[21:03] <rebel_kid> stanlin, the gratis version does, but the open source edition does not. personally i choose to not use usb in favor of using open source software
[21:03] <cwillu> !tab adam-85
[21:03] <cwillu> !tab | adam-85
[21:03] <Gnea> benedek: if i were you, backup your important files on there and reinstall 8.10 from scratch
[21:04] <Gnea> benedek: somewhere along the lines, something got screwed up in the upgrade process
[21:04] <riaal> Where can I find repos url for sources.list? My Swedish isn't working, probably something with my isp dns
[21:04] <cwillu> Adam-85, and that tab completion breaks in annoying ways if too many people have the same start of their name
[21:04] <benedek> Gnea: I could go without the network manager, but I can't get route to set up the connection
[21:04] <cwillu> Adam-85, you could always change it back later :p
[21:04] <benedek> Gnea: I installed from scratch
[21:04] <Gnea> o.O
[21:04] <kudar> how do you know if your kernal headers are installed?
[21:04] <benedek> Gnea: I mean, I didn't upgrade from 8.06
[21:04] <Gnea> kudar: they'd be in /usr/src/
[21:04] <Adam-85> ok cwillu
[21:05] <lsashme> riaal: if se.ubuntu.whatever doesn't work, just remove the se. part?
[21:05] <Adam-85> but now
[21:05] <Gnea> benedek: there was no 8.06, but okay... that's still weird
[21:05] <lsashme> riaal: that happened to me in za recently!
[21:05] <Adam-85> let's talk about my problem
[21:05] <riaal> lsashme: cheers
[21:05] <benedek> Gnea: Oh, I mean 8.04 :>
[21:05] <lsashme> riaal: I commented out the lines in my sources.list and copied them.
[21:05] <Jack_Sparrow> !info amarok
[21:05] <cwillu> Adam-, that's nice.  anyways, use synaptic on a machine with a net connection, select the packages you want to install (but don't apply), and then under file use 'generate a package download script', run the resulting file, and take _all_ of the downloaded files to the machine without a connection
[21:05] <Gnea> joejc: i'm really at a loss right now... perhaps someone else can help you
[21:05] <cwillu> Adam-85, , that's nice.  anyways, use synaptic on a machine with a net connection, select the packages you want to install (but don't apply), and then under file use 'generate a package download script', run the resulting file, and take _all_ of the downloaded files to the machine without a connection
[21:05] <cwillu> see my problem? :p
[21:05] <lsashme> riaal: that way I can get them back when the local repository comes back up.
[21:05] <riaal> lsashme: I don't understand what did you do?
[21:06] <Stanlin> how do i know if im running and using QUAD core processor?
[21:06] <Adam-85> What is synaptic
[21:06] <benedek> How would I use 'route' to get in the internet using <IP_ADDRESS> as a gateway?
[21:06] <Stanlin> is Ubuntu compatible with Intel I7 ?
[21:06] <Gnea> !synaptic
[21:06] <lsashme> riaal: for example, if I had a line like this: deb http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid multiverse
[21:06] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardware
[21:06] <Gnea> benedek: route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS> dev ethX
[21:07] <riaal> lsashme:  yeh, you removed za?
[21:07] <lsashme> I changed it to #deb http://za.archive.......
[21:07] <cwillu> Stanlin, cat /etc/cpuinfo
[21:07] <JWFoxJr> which is the better method of virtualization under Intrepid - using KVM or using VMware?  Does KVM have a smaller footprint (memory and disk space)?
[21:07] <joejc> Gnea: thanks anyway.
[21:07] <Stanlin> anyone using Razer LAchesis with Ubuntu?
[21:07] <Gnea> joejc: good luck
[21:07] <MadTBone> Very strange.... I have a script that runs thunderbird.  If I run the script from xterm, no problem.... If I call the script from a daemon (that's running under my UID), thunderbird doesn't start....
[21:07] <lsashme> riaal: then I copied the line, and removed the za. and the # at the beginning.
[21:07] <benedek> Gnea: Well, that's the thing, I tried that (except the dev ethX part), but still, no connection
[21:07] <cwillu> JWFoxJr, kvm is probably the better option if you have an os that supports it, otherwise vmware isn't bad
[21:07] <riaal> I see, thanks lsashme
[21:07] <lsashme> riaal: that way I still have the original line, just inactive because of the #
[21:07] <benedek> maybe I'll try it one more time
[21:07] <Gnea> benedek: you should at least be able to ping the gateway
[21:07] <TimP> will procmail auto create folders I specify in .procmailrc?
[21:07] <cwillu> !kvm | JWFoxJr,
[21:08] <MadTBone> however, the rest of the script runs as usual
[21:08] <Geomancer626> Anything else I should try besides passthrough, cwillu?
[21:08] <benedek> Gnea: Yeah, I got into the intranet
[21:08] <Stanlin> !kvm
[21:08] <cwillu> Geomancer626, that's the thing that would break it on the router
[21:08] <lsashme> !kvm
[21:08] <JWFoxJr> cwillu: vmware seems dog slow - and I understand that I can run Windows under now....is this correct?
[21:08] <benedek> Gnea: usually, when it works (as now), 'route' show the gateway by its name (eumex.ip), but then, it just showed <IP_ADDRESS> in the list
[21:08] <cwillu> Geomancer626, beyond that, you'd need to go through your pptp configuration's and check that nothing is changed, all the settings are correct for any recent network changes, etc
[21:09] <Stanlin> google crhomo runs on ubuntu?
[21:09] <cwillu> Stanlin, not really
[21:09] <cwillu> Stanlin, it's coming, slowly.  You can run the windows version through wine, but it's _really_ slow
[21:09] <Stanlin> Unreal Tournament 3 runs on Ubuntu?
[21:09] <lsashme> Anybody here know how to find out what device file my infrared is running as?  irdadump gives my information, but I can't figure out what /dev is attached to my irda stack.
[21:09] <cwillu> Stanlin, #winehq
[21:09] <Stanlin> cwillu: thanks
[21:09] <Delvien> I am having a problem with USB drives, they are taking 30+ seconds to mount, while on another computer its almost instantanous
[21:09] <Xitruz> Gnea: thank you for trying but that tutorial makes no sense on my computer. no values add up on my computer. :/
[21:10] <Stanlin> join#winehq
[21:10] <Geomancer626> cwillu: Nothing about my configuration changed between working and not working from what I've been able to see. Could it have something to do with using dyndns?
[21:10] <lsashme> Delvien: more info on the difference between the computers?
[21:10] <Gnea> Xitruz: k
[21:10] <cwillu> Geomancer626, sorry, I'm not a pptp expert, but that could be related
[21:10] <furax_> bonsoir
[21:10] <Delvien> lsashme one laptop, ones a desktop, laptop was installed fresh 8.10, while desktop ( the one with the problem) was upgraded from 8.04
[21:10]  * cwillu huggles his openvpn, the blessed standardness of it, while glancing at Geomancer626,
[21:10] <benedek> Gnea: Just to be sure, in the udev rule file, I have to change ATTR{address}=="00:00:6c:53:45:83" to something like ATTR{address}=="00:00:*", right?
[21:11] <lsashme> Delvien: which one is slow?
[21:11] <cwillu> Geomancer626, are you connecting to someone elses vpn, or do you have control/authority over both sides?
[21:11] <Geomancer626> cwillu: I control both ends
[21:11] <benedek> Gnea: Or just "?*"...
[21:11] <Delvien> lsashme desktop
[21:12] <coolrazor> will procmail auto create folders in users' maildirs that I specify in .procmailrc?
[21:12] <cwillu> Geomancer626, might want to investigate openvpn then (there's windows version as well).  Straightforward networking configuration that doesn't to any dark magic like pptp does, proven security, etc
[21:12] <lsashme> Delvien: Is there a difference between the /etc/fstab on the two computers (apart from the normal devices being different between the two)?
[21:12] <joejc> are there any compiz alternatives?
[21:12] <cwillu> Geomancer626, specifically, it won't break with nat or dynamic ip's
[21:13] <cwillu> joejc, there's not much that I know of, unless you mean just plain old window managers, in which case, there's a metric dumptruck load
[21:13] <Geomancer626> cwillu: I'll definitely do some research in that area. Thanks for all your help.
[21:13] <Delvien> lsashme hold on, booting up laptop
[21:13] <cwillu> Geomancer626, np
[21:13] <cwillu> Geomancer626, feel free to ping me if you ever have openvpn questions
[21:13]  * cwillu hints
[21:13] <lsashme> Delvien: I'm actually clutching at straws at the moment, though!  Never seen that before.
[21:13] <kudar> Gnea: the headers in /usr/src are not headers for my current kernLA
[21:14] <LTL> joejc: just a guess search opengl in synaptic or update manager of choice.
[21:14] <lsashme> Delvien: one other thing, you might like to check out the processor activity on the desktop while mounting the drive: Does it go into furious activity or just wait?
[21:15] <benedek> Gnea: Anyways, I appreciate the help, I'll try this one more time.
[21:15] <lsashme> Delvien: that would indicate whether some program is running to do some kind of useless automagic operation, or whether there is some unnecessary waiting going on.
[21:15] <cwillu> Delvien, is the other machine running windows?  are you doing a clean unmount on windows before you reconnect it?
[21:15] <theseas_> join #ubuntu-gr
[21:16] <mrintegrity> I have an eee901 with ubuntu 8.10 and can't get the touchpad working, the fdi file modificatin doesnt do anything
[21:16] <lsashme> cwillu: nope, they're both debian, see his previous comments.
[21:16] <mrintegrity> ubuntu seems to ignore xorg.conf in 8.10
[21:16] <cwillu> Delvien, (especially if you're using ext2/3 on it, as windows only has an ext2 driver, so you might be running a really long fsck every mount)
[21:16] <FoxKilo4> I need Internet Explorer to access my Bank S/ware,Can't get it to run on Wine Any help Other than use  Windoze?
[21:16] <riaal> as anyone manage to get the routing for pptpd vpn working?
[21:16] <riaal> has*
[21:16] <lsashme> cwillu: one is straight 8.10, other was upgraded from 8.04
[21:16] <mrintegrity> FoxKilo4: use ies4linux script, works everytime
[21:16] <cwillu> Delvien, lsashme, sounds like dma isn't on
[21:17] <lsashme> cwillu: that could be a point!
[21:17] <lsashme> cwillu: what do we use to check that, hdparm?
[21:17] <cwillu> mrintegrity, mostly.  Also, the syntax changed for some thing (much simpler, but different)
[21:17] <cwillu> lsashme, hdparm or sdparm
[21:17] <lsashme> cwillu: aah, OK.
[21:17] <cwillu> lsashme, /var/log/kern.log might be interesting too
[21:17] <mrintegrity> cwillu: how to set  up shmconfig then?
[21:18] <lsashme> cwillu: good point!
[21:18] <FoxKilo4> !mrintegrity Tks looks good will give it a go
[21:18] <cwillu> mrintegrity, sorry, no idea (never used shmconfig)
[21:18] <cwillu> mrintegrity, module loading works the same way, but there may be xrandr support for synaptics touchpad config now (maybe?)
[21:18] <lsashme> cwillu: last time I had problems with dma was when I had misconfigured a kernel.  Very slow drive throughput, but I don't remember slow mounting.
[21:19] <Quazion_> Is feisty removed from the apt-get archives?
[21:19] <hallowname> anyone here want to test a shiny new plasmoid? openbrain.sf.net artificial intelligence on your desktop... still buggy... so not -that- intelligent... but intelligence none the less
[21:19] <cwillu> !feisty
[21:19] <Quazion_> hmm
[21:19] <cwillu> !eol
[21:19] <Quazion_> i see
[21:19] <lsashme> RIP feisty.  Will be missed.
[21:19]  * cwillu was quite fond actually
[21:20] <Quazion_> *ponders* someone how my apache stopped working on feisty
[21:20] <david38840> Hi everyone
[21:20] <Quazion_> can i try nd upgrade to gutsy?
[21:20] <cwillu> Quazion_, if you have a server that you want to be able to largely ignore for months/years at a time, you probably want to use one of the lts releases
[21:20] <lsashme> Delvien: sounds like your laptop takes a while to boot....
[21:20] <cwillu> Quazion_, yep, should work
[21:21] <lsashme> !lts
[21:21] <cwillu> Quazion_, although I don't know off hand enough to walk you through it
[21:21] <energY_> Hello
[21:21] <lsashme> !hello
[21:21] <erUSUL> !upgrade
[21:21] <energY_> Is there any good desktop games I can play with my little sister?
[21:21] <Quazion_> yeah it was some testing server, i shall reinstall it then :)
[21:21] <alex_21> Hi, do you think that I can install Orca on my phone if I get Ubuntu on it?
[21:21] <lsashme> energY_: cgoban
[21:21] <lsashme> energY_: how little?
[21:22] <energY_> 12-ish
[21:22] <joejc> with out compiz is there an easy way to switch desktops?
[21:22] <lsashme> energY_: Depends on the attention span.  Frozen-bubble is very cute, with nice music.
[21:22] <david38840> I'm having a problem since install my new printer HP Photosmart D5460. It's fine when printing normally, but when I ask it for special paper and photo quality it doesn't like it and I cant shut it down. When I reboot up comes an error and I had to reprogram Ubuntu. Does anyone know why please?
[21:22] <lsashme> energY_: Anagramarama is a bit tougher, but nice for two people to play together.
[21:22] <energY_> I was thinking more like glob2
[21:22] <wubrgamer> does anyone have a guide for setting up a headless printer server under ubuntu 8.10 ?
[21:23] <lsashme> energY_: gtans?
[21:23] <wubrgamer> like this: but more current: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1831119
[21:23] <cwillu> energY_, I'm a big fan of quadra (tetris game with gravity, multiplayer (3 on a machine, or local network, or global))
[21:23] <lsashme> energY_: gplanarity lol ;-)
[21:23] <cwillu> energY_, but I haven't been able to get the linux version to build in a couple yaers
[21:23] <cwillu> energY_, the windows version works fine under wine though
[21:23] <benedek> Gnea: Hey, I changed the udev rule to eth1 and it works now! It seems it had an issue with the name being eth0...
[21:24] <computer> what is something like limewire besides frostwire?
[21:24] <benedek> Gnea: It was also strange that Skype worked, even though nothing else worked...
[21:24] <joejc> with out compiz is there an easy way to switch desktops?
[21:24] <alex_21> Hi, do you think that I can compile a program for my phone. I want to install Orca on my phone if I get Ubuntu on it?
[21:24] <MetalliMyers> shareaza
[21:24] <benedek> joejc: under GnomeL Ctrl-Alt-Left/Right
[21:24] <cwillu> computer, search synaptic for gnutella I believe
[21:24] <theatrus> alex_21 it all depends on your phone
[21:25] <computer> benedek i sthat 4 me?
[21:25] <david38840> Can anyone please help me with installing a new printer as I am having problems
[21:25] <computer> ok
[21:25] <joejc> computer: amule i think
[21:25] <lsashme> alex_21: what phone?
[21:25] <computer> thanks
[21:25] <computer> which one is good?
[21:25] <wubrgamer> anynoe with help setting up cupsys?
[21:25] <benedek> computer: I don't think so...
[21:25] <alex_21> Samson phone
[21:25] <Xitruz> ANYONE has a clue on how the get the Wireless to work on my ASUS C90S? Please :D
[21:26] <theatrus> wubrgamer, if you can't use the gnome print manager, you can use the cups web interface
[21:26] <david38840> wubrgamer: You having problems too. Mine is going haywire! Lets see if anyone can help us
[21:26] <theatrus> http://server:631/
[21:26] <cwillu> Xitruz, lspci|grep -i net
[21:26] <joejc> benedek: anything that allows me to drag windows?
[21:26] <lsashme> alex_21: dunno.  That's quite a hardcore project, but maybe you're tough enough ;-?
[21:26] <wubrgamer> theatrus: it's not giving me a page
[21:26] <cwillu> Xitruz, ... in a terminal, should give you back two lines
[21:26] <wubrgamer> i installed a barebones command line installation
[21:26] <wubrgamer> and then i installed ssh
[21:26] <wubrgamer> and THEN i installed cupsys
[21:27] <benedek> joejc: Ah, I don't know if that's possible, but it could be. KDE can do it...
[21:27] <theatrus> wubrgamer, change /etc/cups/cupsd.conf Listen parameter to just be :631
[21:27] <FoxKilo4> Xitruz Is your card listed in System-Admin-Hardware drivers?
[21:27] <alex_21> lsashme: I need to do this as the alternative will cost me three hundred dollars plus a new phone
[21:27] <wubrgamer> theatrus: will that also fix the authentication stuff?
[21:27] <Xitruz> cwillu: Got 4 lines but i guess this is what u want: Hey, I changed the udev rule to eth1 and it works now! It seems it had an issue with the name being eth0...
[21:27] <theatrus> wubrgamer, by default is localhost only
[21:27] <Xitruz> whaat
[21:27] <theatrus> wubrgamer, authentication stuff?
[21:27] <Stanlin> is there anyway to "lock" the drivers for a Video Card?
[21:27] <lsashme> alex_21: Well, good luck, but I'm unfortunately not the right guru for you!!!!
[21:27] <cwillu> Xitruz, try again :p
[21:27] <Xitruz> cwillu: 05:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5008 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[21:27] <Xitruz> haha
[21:28] <Xitruz> FoxKilo4 how do I look?
[21:28] <thxpnp> hoo ah
[21:28] <benzap> could someone point me to a good book to read up on linux user groups and permissions?
[21:28] <Stanlin> is it safe to use a partition with fs as NTFS?
[21:28] <hischild> Is there a limit on how many audio streams PulseAudio can process?
[21:28] <wubrgamer> it's spitting out 403 forbidden
[21:28] <benzap> or possibly a book that covers a lot of good topics pertaining to linux administration
[21:28] <Xitruz> FoxKilo4: no it doesnt show
[21:28] <lsashme> benzap: how about rute?
[21:28] <lsashme> !rute
[21:29] <flaviocpontes> Hi, anyone know how to make an eth interface roaming again after running a pppoeconf?
[21:29] <computer> ben, http://help.ubuntu.com
[21:29] <david38840> benzap: why dont u try amazon?
[21:29] <theatrus> wubrgamer, for /admin? make sure you're using https:// - its all in the cupsd.conf in the location rules
[21:29] <benzap> looks pretty good, thanks
[21:29] <crazy2be> ok
[21:29] <crazy2be> so
[21:29] <clee-saan> hi, i would be interested in a msn packet sniffer for ubuntu. You know, those things that intercepts msn conversations on LAN. Any advice on where to look ?
[21:29] <benzap> i meant a web resource
[21:29] <wubrgamer> theatrus: can you look at my config file?
[21:29] <energY_> Is there a skype for hardy heron?
[21:30] <alex_21> Hey, guys, anyone know where to find docs on compiling for my phone, or even installing Ubuntu on it?
[21:30] <crazy2be> i'm having a [very] wierd problem with xubuntu
[21:30] <lsashme> benzap: last time I read rute, it was a bit old, but the basics, like users etc, is very good.
[21:30] <david38840> Can anyone help me installing a new printer as Im having lots of problems with the HP  Photosmart D5460. Thks
[21:30] <wubrgamer> http://pastebin.com/d6d7b5d99
[21:30] <ortsvorsteher> energY_: yes, sudo apt-get install skype
[21:30] <wubrgamer> theatrus:
[21:30] <crazy2be> and nobody there [one active user] know what the cause could be
[21:30] <theatrus> alex_21, google it in relation to linux. If you don't find anything, odds are you can't do it since samsung doesn't release it
[21:30] <benzap> yeah, I just to figure out how to change write privleges for www-data, things like that
[21:30] <guntbert> !ask | crazy2be
[21:30] <computer> !rute crazy2be
[21:30] <lsashme> crazy2be: please describe problem
[21:30] <computer> !rute
[21:31] <sexcopter> hi, i just installed 8.10, and trying to get things up to date, but some packages are not cleaning upgrading. See the output here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/91127/
[21:31] <david38840> Does anyone know why when I type in sudo apt-get install amsn  it doesnt recognise the command
[21:31] <energY_> ortsvorsteher: Not found
[21:31] <crazy2be> ok
[21:31] <wubrgamer> theatrus: http://pastebin.com/d6d7b5d99 can you look at that?
[21:31] <ortsvorsteher> energY_: update your repositories
[21:31] <LTL> wubrgamer: are you on the local machine? http://localhost:631
[21:31] <ortsvorsteher> !sources.list
[21:31] <crazy2be> i wasn't asking to ask, i was just explaining why i am here
[21:31] <lsashme> david38840: strange?
[21:31] <benzap> idk about help.ubuntu, they seem to like to stay in the gui and i'm running from server edition
[21:31] <energY_> ortsvorsteher: no help
[21:31] <wubrgamer> LTL:
[21:31] <sexcopter> does anyone have any idea what the error codes 1 and 10 mean in this context
[21:31] <wubrgamer> no
[21:31] <crazy2be> but anyway,
[21:31] <wubrgamer> LTL:  I'm on the local net though
[21:31] <crazy2be> it will boot to the menu screen
[21:31] <alex_21> Samsong doesn't release what?
[21:32] <thxpnp> hi all =) good morning
[21:32] <lsashme> david38840:  try which apt-get
[21:32] <crazy2be> the *first menu screen
[21:32] <golec2604> hey
[21:32] <david38840> lsashme: It is. But I have reinstalled Ubuntu 8.10 Desktop edition could this be why
[21:32] <theatrus> wubrgamer, looks ok at first glance, tried https://?
[21:32] <Xitruz> cwillu: Any ideas?
[21:32] <ortsvorsteher> energY_: no help? may your sources.list isnt new enough?
[21:32] <wubrgamer> https://<IP_ADDRESS>:631/
[21:32] <guntbert> crazy2be: please state your question all in ONE line
[21:32] <wubrgamer> that's the address I'm using
[21:32] <golec2604> potrafi ktos cos napisac po polsku???
[21:32] <lsashme> david38840: what does it say when you type which apt-get
[21:32] <david38840> lsashem: apt-get amsn is an invalid entry
[21:33] <lsashme> david38840: what about apt-cache search amsn
[21:33] <crazy2be> with "try", "install", etc. but if i select any options other than the first one, it simple displays a message, and does not do anything. if i select the first one, it simply does not do anything
[21:33] <cwillu> Xitruz, sorry, distracted, I finally got somebody in #...mozillateam to pay attention to me
[21:33] <cwillu> Xitruz, poke me again in 5 minutes?
[21:33] <david38840> lsashem: I am updating at the moment so this could be why. I'll try when its finished OK. Thks
[21:33] <Xitruz> cwillu: Will do :)
[21:33] <crazy2be> the message has a title of "Boot Loader", with varying messages
[21:33] <lsashme> david38840: Yep, that could easily be your problem
[21:34] <lsashme> david38840: apt-get update, and when that
[21:34] <crazy2be> eg, the "check CD for defects" comes up with "check"
[21:34] <wubrgamer> theatrus: any ideas?
[21:34] <lsashme> david38840: apt-get update, and when that's done, if it still doesn't work, try apt-get -f install
[21:34] <david38840> lsashem: I was using Intrepid, but had problems and a friend lent me the ubuntu 8.10 Desktop edition. Is this the full program as I am a bit lost
[21:34] <imbrandon> yes
[21:34] <crazy2be> it's quite bizzare
[21:34] <nexus23> ok i created a partition on an external hard drive in ext3 and its telling me i cant copy folders to it
[21:34] <theatrus> david38840, that is also intrepid :)
[21:34] <lsashme> david38840: that often works to sort out small kinks in slightly messed-up apt setups.
[21:34] <nexus23> when just a second ago i could copy single files
[21:35] <YamiFrankc> My Ubuntu(Hardy Heron) dont regonize my WirelessCard.I have tried a LOT of tutorials,and no one work. Any help to get my Wireless card to work?
[21:35] <DreamLnr> hello
[21:35] <crazy2be> i tried re-downloading and re-burning
[21:35] <theatrus> wubrgamer, lemme try on my system
[21:35] <riaal> has anyone got a pptpd vpn server working on ubuntu?
[21:35] <guntbert> crazy2be: you will definitely get better response if you keep your question to just one (if long) line
[21:35] <crazy2be> but it still has the same problem
[21:35] <elninja> Anyone know the tool/command for remotely logging into another Ubuntu box with an X session, but in a window on the local machine?
[21:35] <david38840> theatrus: lsashme: Thks to both of you
[21:35] <ortsvorsteher> !details | YamiFrankc
[21:35] <wubrgamer> theatrus: thanks
[21:35] <Odd-rationale> elninja: vnc? (vinagre/vino)
[21:35] <DreamLnr> is it possible that after upgrading from gutsy to ibex some programs might not work properly or at all?
[21:36] <Odd-rationale> !vnc | elninja
[21:36] <elninja> Odd-rationale, Not exactly what I'm looking for.
[21:36] <lsashme> Odd-rationale: not really.
[21:36] <cwillu> Xitruz, okay, what's the problem?
[21:36] <elninja> The one I'm looking for works through SSH, I believe.
[21:36] <lsashme> elninja: maybe ssh -X
[21:36] <benedek> YamiFrankc: You might try ndiswrapper if you haven't done so already. It uses Windows drivers.
[21:36] <LTL> wubrgamer: drop the secure socket address, e.g. http only
[21:36] <wubrgamer> LTL: how?
[21:36] <lsashme> elninja: that forwards X-windows connections through ssh.
[21:37] <Odd-rationale> freenx uses ssh.
[21:37] <guntbert> elninja: try ssh -X
[21:37] <cwillu> elninja, remote desktop, or just running apps?
[21:37] <wubrgamer> i'm getting denied on both https and http
[21:37] <yaris123456789> hey guys how do i view hardware specs like cpu ?
[21:37] <elninja> I'd like the whole desktop.
[21:37] <wubrgamer> LTL:  did you mean in my config file?
[21:37] <LTL> wubrgamer:  http://<IP_ADDRESS>:631
[21:37] <elninja> I remember seeing something about a command or tool that would give you the whole desktop in a window.
[21:37] <wubrgamer> 403 Forbidden
[21:37] <lsashme> yaris123456789: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[21:37] <david38840> lsashme: It seems to be downloading it now for some reason! Finger s crossed
[21:38] <yaris123456789> lsashme: what about ram?
[21:38] <lsashme> yaris123456789: free -m
[21:38] <lsashme> david38840: good luck!
[21:38] <cwillu> elninja, vnc tunneled over ssh is probably the easiest option
[21:38] <david38840> lsashme: Any idea what this message means : Processing triggers for libc6 ...
[21:38] <david38840> ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[21:38] <lsashme> elninja: xnest maybe?
[21:38] <wubrgamer> i should have backed up my old configuration
[21:38] <wubrgamer> *facepalm*
[21:39] <cwillu> elninja, my usual trick is to run the vnc server and viewer via ssh, the server as DISPLAY=:0, and the viewer just connecting to <IP_ADDRESS>, and displaying over ssh -X :p
[21:39] <elninja> lsashme, That sounds familiar... lemme check and see if that was it
[21:39] <lsashme> david38840: that means it's updating libc6 (the C library) and it's doing what needs to be done to make it happen properly.
[21:39] <cwillu> elninja, ugly as all hell, but works
[21:39] <lsashme> cwillu: cute :-P
[21:39] <david38840> lsashme: Thks. Do I have to wait or can I exit?
[21:39] <cwillu> elninja, use Xephyr, not xnest
[21:39] <Xitruz> cwillu: the wireless wont work :P
[21:39] <cwillu> elninja, Xehpyr has render accel
[21:39] <riaal> anyone know alot about routing in linux?
[21:39] <Xitruz> cwillu: good wxplanation xD
[21:39] <lsashme> david38840: Wait until it's done, and it gives you your prompt back.
[21:39] <cwillu> riaal, I do, but I'm in demand right now :p
[21:39] <ortsvorsteher> !routing
[21:40] <ortsvorsteher> !route
[21:40] <lsashme> david38840: I assume you're working in some kind of terminal, not in aptitude or synaptic?
[21:40] <cwillu> lsashme, like it? :)
[21:40] <elninja> cwillu, do you try to control the same X session as the local console? or why do you choose to use VNC?
[21:40] <ortsvorsteher> !net
[21:40] <ortsvorsteher> !networking
[21:40] <cwillu> elninja, ya, I misunderstood what you wanted
[21:40] <Pici> !fishing | ortsvorsteher
[21:40] <david38840> lsashme: Yes in Terminal. The prompt is back so I will exit and have to restart the computer. Be back soon. Thks for yr help and assitance. its appreciated
[21:40] <wubrgamer> anyone with cups experience?
[21:40] <lsashme> cwillu: Hey, if it works, I guess.  A bit heavy on the network maybe?
[21:40] <cwillu> elninja, use a Xephyr on your local box, and run apps in it via ssh
[21:40] <ortsvorsteher> Pici: :)
[21:40] <lsashme> david38840: cross thumbs...
[21:40] <elninja> Ah. Thanks for the help.
[21:40] <cwillu> lsashme, not terribly, no more than vnc itself is
[21:41] <riaal> cwillu: would you have any idea how to route a vpn tunnel? I have a working tunnel to the server, I want to terminate and route all trafic out different interface
[21:41] <lsashme> cwillu: I guess.  But maybe xnest over ssh would be lighter?
[21:41] <cwillu> lsashme, vnc is more efficient that x
[21:41] <lsashme> cwillu: Oh, that's good news!
[21:41] <lsashme> cwillu: I plan to use it soon....
[21:41] <crazy2be> displays a messagebox with the title "Boot Loader" and message "
[21:41] <crazy2be> woops
[21:41] <cwillu> lsashme, but for what he wants, Xephyr + ssh is the best option
[21:41] <crazy2be> http://paste.ubuntu.com/91136/
[21:41] <lsashme> !xephyr
[21:41] <crazy2be> that's my problem
[21:42] <cwillu> Xitruz, how broken is it?
[21:42] <lsashme> cwillu: what's xephyr?
[21:42] <cwillu> Xitruz, do you see networks in network manager, for instance?
[21:42] <cwillu> !info Xephyr
[21:42] <alex_21> I don't find anything about my phone, why
[21:42] <cwillu> !info xephyr
[21:42] <cwillu> !info xserver-xorg-xephyr
[21:42] <FloodBot3> cwillu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:42] <alex_21> I want to install Ubuntu on it?
[21:42] <theatrus> wubrgamer, add an "Allow all" to the "/" location
[21:42] <LTL> wubrgamer: try this in cupsys.conf in appropriate sections-  Allow <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[21:42] <lsashme> cwillu: you type so fast it looks like you're flooding, lol
[21:42]  * cwillu mutters
[21:42] <wubrgamer> yeah
[21:42] <cwillu> lsashme, I get that :)
[21:42] <wubrgamer> one section said "require system user"
[21:42] <lsashme> ;-P
[21:42] <wubrgamer> or something like it
[21:42] <Xitruz> cwillu: at first I saw them. But now I cant
[21:42] <wubrgamer> i changed it to require any
[21:42] <hotdog003> Hello everyone! My USB hard drive does not show up in usb-creator's list. What should I do?
[21:42] <crazy2be> http://paste.ubuntu.com/91136/ <-- Anyone?
[21:43] <wubrgamer> it said require user @SYSTEM
[21:43] <wubrgamer> i think?
[21:43] <cwillu> !info xserver-xephyr lsashme
[21:43] <cwillu> !info xserver-xephyr | lsashme
[21:43] <guntbert> crazy2be: are you sure that the image was ok, when you burned the CD?
[21:43] <cwillu> lsashme, """It is based on the kdrive X server, and as a
[21:43] <cwillu> result it supports newer extensions than Xnest, including render and
[21:43] <cwillu> composite."""
[21:43] <cwillu> lsashme, no gl though
[21:43] <cwillu> you'd have to use dmx for that
[21:43] <lsashme> cwillu: Hmm, interesting....
[21:44] <crazy2be> it's the second time i have downloaded it, from different sources
[21:44]  * cwillu has run compiz across 4 monitors and 3 machines once :)
[21:44] <cwillu> 0.2 frames per second :)
[21:44] <guntbert> !who | crazy2be
[21:44] <lsashme> cwillu: t3h wow!
[21:44] <Xitruz> cwillu: 05:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5008 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[21:44] <crazy2be> this one is the bittorent version
[21:44] <david38840> lsashme: No luck as I checked in Synaptic and Applications Add/Remove and amsn doesnt appear?
[21:44] <diffred> OK!, now I have a:  description: VGA compatible controller                product: NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400]                vendor: nVidia Corporation, I wanna change it, which one do you recommend me that is compatible and works fine in Ubuntu with compiz?
[21:44] <LTL> wubrgamer: add that line under all lines saying allow localhost
[21:44] <lsashme> david38840: what does apt-cache search amsn do?
[21:44] <crazy2be> guntbert: ok then
[21:44] <cwillu> Xitruz, does it show up in network manager at all, just with no access points listed?
[21:45] <LTL> wubrgamer: restart cupsys afterwards
[21:45] <archman> guys do i need to change swap partition if i upgrade my ram?
[21:45] <lsashme> david38840: I'm just going to do some checking, brb...
[21:45] <theatrus> diffred, NVidia cards are good, just something more modern which fits into your system
[21:45] <guntbert> crazy2be: doesn't matter where you got it: ALWAYS do an md5 check before burning
[21:45] <agampher> !tab
[21:45] <wubrgamer> LTL: herm?
[21:45] <crazy2be> guntbert: so the image *should* be fine
[21:45] <alex_21> Nevermind I will use a mobile OS
[21:45] <wubrgamer> ltl which line?
[21:45] <wubrgamer> require user any?
[21:45] <guntbert> !md5 | crazy2be
[21:45] <alex_21> Thanks for listening, and thanks for your help
[21:45] <crazy2be> yeah
[21:45] <jonjoe> has anyone heard of eeebuntu?
[21:45] <alex_21> Good day. Shaw bash
[21:45] <benedek> jonjoe: I have
[21:45] <diffred> theatrus: thanks for help, but completely noob on hardware, could you recommend me some named products?
[21:45] <cwillu> riaal, I'm tempted to tell you to hit the (virtual) books, if you're setting up a vpn, having a good understanding of networking will makes things waaaaay easier
[21:45] <david38840> lsashme: This is the message : amsn - An MSN messenger written in Tcl
[21:45] <david38840> amsn-data - Data files for aMSN
[21:46] <lsashme> david38840: I see it's in "universe/X11".  Do you have universe uncommented in your sources.list?
[21:46] <benedek> jonjoe: I use it on my Eee 900; the 8.04 version
[21:46] <wubrgamer> how do I list all users on a system?
[21:46] <cwillu> riaal, (pop quiz, just to meter you) you understand exactly what a netmask does?
[21:46] <LTL> wubrgamer: there are a few probably
[21:46] <wubrgamer> ltl a few what?
[21:46] <Xitruz> cwillu: my guess is that it is dead :D
[21:46] <nDevastator> what do i have to do with my sound in order to be able to listen to music and flash videos simultaneously
[21:46] <cwillu> riaal, (don't need the answer, I'll trust you if you say 'yes' or 'no') :p
[21:46] <cwillu> Xitruz, internal?
[21:46] <david38840> lsashem: Sorry don't know what u mean?
[21:46] <Xitruz> cwillu: no. it works with Windows
[21:46] <lsashme> !tab | david38840
[21:47] <LTL> wubrgamer: the server, admin and config sections
[21:47] <cwillu> Xitruz, still?
[21:47] <Xitruz> cwillu: jep
[21:47] <lsashme> david38840: if you misspell my nick, I don't see your messages, so tab is your friend...
[21:47] <cwillu> Xitruz, you know pastebin>?
[21:47] <lsashme> david38840: what does apt-get install amsn do?
[21:47] <archman> how can i see how large is my swap partition?
[21:47] <Xitruz> cwillu: no?
[21:47] <riaal> cwillu: I do for sure, I know a lot about networks, have setup several router based vpn tunnels
[21:47] <Amun> lsashme: installs amsn
[21:47] <david38840> lsashme: Apologies I dont know either how the tab works?
[21:47] <lsashme> amun lol
[21:48] <cwillu> riaal, okay.  What was the question again?
[21:48] <lsashme> david38840: no problem.  What does apt-get install amsn do on your machine?
[21:48] <crazy2be> calculating md5...
[21:48] <cwillu> (you know you need less coffee when you look at the scroll back of #ubuntu, and you're over half of the traffic for over 30 minutes :p)
[21:48] <wiesiek> CZE┼Ü─ć
[21:48] <cwillu> david38840, type 'davi<tab>'
[21:48] <lsashme> cwillu: We all secretly want to be LIEK U!!!!
[21:49] <cwillu> lsashme, nobody wants to be like me, trust me :p
[21:49] <david38840> lsashme: its quite long, but could not open lock file 13 permissions denied: unable to lock the admin directory. Does this mean anything
[21:49] <riaal> cwillu: basically how do I controll what happens to the vpn trafic, in the pptpd.conf file there is only "local ip" and "remote ip", witch is what ip the server respons to, and what ip is allowed to connect
[21:49] <wubrgamer> ltl this is my current configuration
[21:49] <wubrgamer> http://pastebin.com/d73cf9550
[21:49] <YamiFrankc> I have an atheros wireles card.My ubuntu(Hardy Heron) dont regonize it. I have installed the drivers i use with vista,madwifi,etc. No one works...any help to get it to work?
[21:49] <cwillu> david38840, sudo <command you just typed>
[21:49] <riaal> no options on what happens to the trafic ones it enters the tunnel
[21:49] <lsashme> david38840: err, sorry, try sudo what he said
[21:49] <lsashme> cwillu: sheesh, too much coffee already!!!!
[21:49] <markl_> on centos, the sudoers file seems to want the "wheel" group for admins; what does Ubuntu typically want to use?
[21:49] <nDevastator> !pulseaudio
[21:49] <crazy2be> guntbert: they match
[21:49] <C0p3rn1c> I've blacklisted the bluetooth module, but why does ubuntu still start bluetooth when I enable irqpoll?
[21:49] <cwillu> riaal, I usually do openvpn vpn's, but this should work largely the same
[21:49] <nDevastator> !ESD
[21:50] <david38840> errr, sorry guys I am completely lost!!!!
[21:50] <crazy2be> guntbert: so the image is therefor fine
[21:50] <nDevastator> how come i can only have 1 sound channel at a time
[21:50] <nDevastator> what i gotta do to fix this
[21:50] <david38840> lsashme: sudo what???
[21:50] <lsashme> david38840: instead of apt-get install amsn, try sudo apt-get install amsn
[21:50] <cwillu> riaal, packet forwarding needs to be on in the kernel, and then you just be able to just add the correct routes between the interfaces (setting up the right gateways/routes on any others machines affected)
[21:50] <lsashme> david38840: sorry, I didn't finish my sentence because cwillu finished it for me ;-)
[21:50] <Xitruz> cwillu: dont really know what the problem is so i dont know how to use pastebin :P
[21:51] <YamiFrankc> I have an atheros wireles card.My ubuntu(Hardy Heron) dont regonize it. I have installed the drivers i use with vista,madwifi,etc. No one works...any help to get it to work?
[21:51] <cwillu> riaal, presuming that you haven't done anything with the firewall yet
[21:51] <david38840> lsashme: Its already installed, but what this about universe???
[21:51] <cwillu> !universe
[21:51] <lsashme> david38840: so if it's already installed, what's the problem?
[21:51] <agampher> !sudo make me a sandwich
[21:51] <david38840> cwillu: Sorry I dont understand what you were trying to tell me . sorry
[21:51] <lsashme> david38840: the universe thing was about checking that you had the correct repositories set up in the configuration file.
[21:51] <archman> if i have 2gb ram, will it make sense to increase swap from 500mb to 2gb?
[21:52] <cwillu> david38840, you typed apt-get something something?
[21:52] <david38840> lsashme: I look at applications in internet and it doesn appear
[21:52] <lsashme> david38840: if it's already installed, you clearly have them installed!
[21:52] <riaal> cwillu: The only think I have done is setup the tunnel and verified that it worked, the guides out there doesn't seam to bother what happens to the traffic, will it terminate in the server by default?
[21:52] <cwillu> david38840, change it to "sudo apt-get something something"
[21:52] <CntryTousrTrout> Does anyone know why my videos on the web ect. youtube. Has no sound and the picture is very choppy, and keeps stopping/starting. I do have plain sound on websites though, just not videos.
[21:52] <LTL> wubrgamer: the 'listen' line is going to stop you, tweak that and it might work
[21:52] <thirdwheel> hey all, how would one get the battery's serial number? i think my battery may have been recalled
[21:52] <thirdwheel> within ubuntu
[21:52] <cwillu> riaal, if I'm not mistaken, by default it'll just be another interface on the server
[21:52] <thirdwheel> windows lets you do it in the control panel
[21:52] <lsashme> david38840: aaaah.  What happens if you type amsn at the terminal?
[21:52] <david38840> lsashme: Apologies its now appeared. Thks for your help
[21:52] <qwerty2008> hi, digiKam says it can't delete pictures from a Sony CyberShot DSC-W55, does anyone have a fix for this?
[21:52] <simon_b> hi all... anyone has some experience with gparted?
[21:52] <lsashme> david38840: no problem!
[21:52] <nDevastator> !sound daemon
[21:52] <agampher> thirdwheel: turn it over and take the battery out?
[21:52] <joejc> is there a bluetooth program thats ez to install and allows me to acses all of my phone including the address book etc
[21:52] <ortsvorsteher> !gparted
[21:52] <lsashme> thirdwheel: will check....
[21:52] <cwillu> riaal, so apps on the server would be able to use that network transparently, and hosts on the far network would be able to ping the server, etc
[21:53] <guntbert> crazy2be: yes, I see. I wouldn' expect that, but maybe xubuntu is different ;-) - no just kidding - got no more ideas - sorry
[21:53] <david38840> lsashme:  Now can you help me with this tab business for the names?? How does that work as I have been wondering for some time now
[21:53] <lsashme> thirdwheel: I'm sure it's in /proc/acpi somewhere.
[21:53] <cwillu> riaal, if the server is acting as a gateway, then it needs to be configured as such, in addition to anything vpn related
[21:53] <crazy2be> %&#*$(#
[21:53] <lsashme> david38840: brb
[21:53] <nDevastator> can anyone please tell me whats wrong with my sound... i cant do any 2 sound related things at once
[21:53] <Stanlin> how to install windows fonts?
[21:53] <nDevastator> and sometimes i have to logout and back in to fix it
[21:53] <crazy2be> what about the other 1402 of you?
[21:53] <thirdwheel> lsashme, ah yes, there it is, thanks
[21:53] <lsashme>  cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/info
[21:53] <qwerty2008> nDevastator, are you on Hardy?
[21:53] <crazy2be> http://paste.ubuntu.com/91136/
[21:54] <cwillu> riaal, there's lots of good guides to setting up linux as a gateway/router though, which I think should be all you need if you know how the things actually work and just don't know how to configure them on linux in particular
[21:54] <YamiFrankc> I have an atheros wireles card.My ubuntu(Hardy Heron) dont regonize it. I have installed the drivers i use with vista,madwifi,etc. No one works...any help to get it to work?
[21:54] <lsashme> david38840: In IRC, type "david" and then hit the tab button.
[21:54] <guntbert> !patience | crazy2be
[21:54] <benedek> YamiFrankc: Have you tried ndiswrapper yet?
[21:54] <simon_b> yes... i have it installed... since my old disk was almost full, i cloned the whole disk, and now, i want to add that unpartitioned space to the first partition... and don't know how to do that
[21:54] <crazy2be> lol
[21:54] <wubrgamer> ltl which listen line?
[21:54] <LTL> Stanlin: install msttcorefonts
[21:54] <lsashme> david38840: your name should then be completed.
[21:54] <cwillu> crazy2be, can you imagine 1400 all conversing at the same time? :p
[21:54] <wubrgamer> ltl can you just send me an updated pastebin?
[21:54] <lsashme> david38840: it works for me, anyway.
[21:54] <nDevastator> qwerty2008, im on 8.04
[21:54] <Lexvegas> to install XFCE desktop, would I run apt-get install xfce-desktop , or would i use xubuntu-desktop?
[21:54] <crazy2be> cwillu: not if they were all as talkitive as you :P
[21:54] <qwerty2008> nDevastator, uninstall pulseaudio
[21:54] <wubrgamer> ltl the pastebin I sent you has a text window in the bottom, if you edit it and click send, then send me the new URL it might make things easier
[21:54] <moijk> I have a keybord without the <> chars, what is the best way to map some in frequent keys on the keyboard to those?
[21:54] <david38840> Yes I type in my name and it finishes it you are right. But if I type in your name nothing happens
[21:55] <crazy2be> cwillu: i think that would flood freenode
[21:55] <nDevastator> qwerty2008, i didnt install it... does it come installed ?
[21:55] <lsashme> david38840: are you sure you put the l first?
[21:55] <qwerty2008> nDevastator, it's preinstalled
[21:55] <markl_> ok it is the "admin" group on ubuntu
[21:55] <simon_b> noone has an idea?
[21:55] <YamiFrankc> benedek,yes
[21:55] <lsashme> david38840: if I type lsa and then hit tab, it works OK.
[21:55] <wubrgamer> LTL: ?
[21:55] <LTL> wubrgamer: just the 631 line ought work.
[21:55] <nDevastator> qwerty2008, so why uninstall pulseaudio ?
[21:55] <anomie2> nDevastator: this for intrepid but may be helpful on sound locks: http://www.accessdataservices.com/blog/restart-sound-ubuntu-810-intrepid/
[21:55] <lsashme> !ltl | wurbgamer
[21:55] <david38840> If I want to put your nick then I typed in ls and tabbed, but it didnt complete
[21:56] <lsashme> !ltl | wubrgamer
[21:56] <wubrgamer> lswhat?
[21:56] <lsashme> david38840: hit tab a few times, you should get options.
[21:56] <wubrgamer> lsashme: what was that for?
[21:56] <cwillu> Xitruz, sorry for ignoring you there
[21:56] <wubrgamer> LTL: what about the line?
[21:56] <guntbert> david38840: you need at least 3 characters
[21:56] <cwillu> !pastebin | Xitruz
[21:56] <wubrgamer> ltl what the suggested replacement ?
[21:56] <crazy2be> so, no ideas?
[21:56] <Xitruz> cwillu: it's all good :P
[21:56] <simon_b> how to add unpartitioned space under dev/sda2 to dev/sda1?
[21:56] <lsashme> wubrgamer: sorry, thought you needed info about LTL :-?
[21:56] <crazy2be> it's totally bizzare i know
[21:56] <cwillu> Xitruz, pastebin the contents of /var/log/kern.log and /var/log/messages
[21:57] <Xitruz> cwillu: ok :)
[21:57] <wubrgamer> lasivian: that's someone's nickname
[21:57] <david38840> lsashme: Yes now its working OK
[21:57] <qwerty2008> hi, digiKam says it can't delete pictures from a Sony CyberShot DSC-W55, does anyone have a fix for this?
[21:57] <cwillu> !gparted | simon_b,
[21:57] <eXp0po`iRc|45921> hello
[21:57] <lsashme> david38840: It also works magically in the terminal.
[21:57] <david38840> lsashme: Thks for your help. But in order for the tab to work do you have to have already typed in someones Nick┬┐┬┐
[21:57] <eXp0po`iRc|45921> list!
[21:57] <cwillu> simon_b, gparted might help with that (it's point and click, so to the extent that you can figure out how to describe what you're doing, it should work)
[21:57] <lsashme> david38840: nope.
[21:58] <Guest37068> My bluetooth mouse & keyboard lose connection after a while, and I have to sudo hidd --search to reconncect them anytime I go idle
[21:58] <cwillu> david38840, type "davi" and hit tab
[21:58] <simon_b> cwillu ubottu i tried... but do not know how to move it...
[21:58] <lsashme> david38840: for example, I type x and hit tab a few times, and I see a whole list of nicks I've never typed.
[21:58] <nDevastator> qwerty2008, ok so i see why now can i just do sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio ?
[21:58] <DreamLnr> again: is it possible that after upgrading from gutsy to ibex some programs might not work properly or at all?
[21:58] <david38840> lsashme: So if I wish to speak to any person in the chat do I just type in  the first 3 letters and then tab and this completes the name is that the idea?
[21:58] <cwillu> david38840, I only get notified that somebody is talking to me if they have my exact nick on the line
[21:58] <qwerty2008> nDevastator, yes
[21:58] <tyler_d> david38840: thats the idea
[21:58] <wubrgamer> LTL: how do i format it?
[21:59] <lsashme> david38840: Well, just enough characters to specify his name precisely
[21:59] <simon_b> cwillu i expanded "extended" it under sda2, but how to move it to sda1?
[21:59] <Lexvegas> to install XFCE desktop, would I run apt-get install xfce-desktop , or would i use xubuntu-desktop?
[21:59] <lsashme> david38840: even more importantly, try it in the terminal
[21:59] <cwillu> simon_b, I think you would need to delete sda2, and expand sda1 into that space
[21:59] <david38840> Thks guys for your help. Must go!!!!!! Be back later
[21:59] <crazy2be> i guess i'll post to the fourms then
[21:59] <guntbert> simon_b: but there must be a misunderstanding: if you space is under /dev/sda2 it is not unpartitioned
[21:59] <Xitruz> cwillu: kern.log http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/91147/
[21:59] <crazy2be> oh well
[21:59] <lsashme> david38840: for example, try apt-get install win<tab><tab>
[21:59] <guntbert> *your
[21:59] <cwillu> simon_b, ...presuming that you just made sda2 hoping to expand sda1 into it (i.e., that sda2 doesn't contain anything you value)
[22:00] <simon_b> hmmm, gparted says that it is "under" sda2
[22:00] <agampher> Lexvegas: pretty sure you can do either
[22:00] <Lexvegas> agampher, thanks
[22:00] <lsashme> Ah, well, I didn't get an answer to my question, but it was fun.  See you guys later!
[22:01] <simon_b> cwillu my installation made sda2 (and "under it sda5 and sda6...)
[22:01]  * wubrgamer fixed it
[22:01] <__tube__> how do you turn your bluetooth microphone on?
[22:01] <agampher> Lexvegas: the package is named differently though, i think
[22:01] <Xitruz> cwillu: messages: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/91148/
[22:01] <wubrgamer> i removed all instances of require user any
[22:01] <masque7> hi guys - can i run gnump3d streaming as a website/webpage with a URL alongside my current site?
[22:01] <cwillu> Xitruz, do you have a usb adapter you're using at the same time or something?
[22:02] <Lexvegas> agampher, im thinking that it might be xbuntu. thanks!
[22:02] <Xitruz> cwillu: not that i know of :/
[22:02] <__tube__> could anyone tell me how to turn your bluetooth microphone on?
[22:02] <cwillu> Xitruz, iwl3945: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG/BG Network Connection driver for Linux, 1.2.26ks
[22:02] <cwillu> Xitruz, which is rather odd
[22:03] <Xitruz> cwillu: doh
[22:03] <tsrk> Does anyone here have experience with setting up sendmail on an ubuntu server?
[22:03] <Merrnt> My bluetooth mouse & keyboard lose connection after a while, and I have to sudo hidd --search to reconncect them anytime I go idle
[22:04] <ortsvorsteher> !sendmail
[22:04] <theatrus> tsrk, I'd suggest postfix or exim
[22:04] <agampher> tsrk: postfix gets my vote too, try #ubuntu-server
[22:04] <tsrk> theatrus, will those work with php's mail function?  that's all I need to send mail for
[22:04] <chatnick> could anyone tell me how to turn your bluetooth microphone on?
[22:05] <RawIsWar> Hi all... I have a nautilus script (bash) to convert a file from .avi to .mp4 with the HandBrake CLI.. how do i stop the terminal closing on completion of the script?
[22:05] <Slart> RawIsWar: I think there's a pause command
[22:06] <Xitruz> cwillu: this really annoys me :P in the beginning i could at least see the connections around me
[22:06] <RawIsWar> Slart.... any idea how to format that command?
[22:06] <Slart> RawIsWar: hmm.. hang on.. let me search a bit
[22:06] <cwillu> Xitruz, how much mucking about have you done?  does iwl3945 sound familiar at all?
[22:06] <RawIsWar> Thanks
[22:06] <cwillu> Xitruz, pastebin the output of lsmod
[22:06] <benedek> RawIsWar: sleep <seconds> pauses some time
[22:07] <frostburn> anyone know where high scores are saved for gnomine?  it's not in .gnome or .gnome2 or .gnome_private or .gnome2_private
[22:07] <CheesyWeasel> i upgraded to hardy recently and now whenever i press fn+f2 (my mute button because i assigned it that way) a little info bubble pops out of my battery icon and tells me how much battery life i have remaining. its a great feature but i would like it reassigned to another keystroke. how would i go about doing that?
[22:07] <chatnick> hello?
[22:07] <RawIsWar> benedek... thanks but I want it to pause until I interact with the terminal again
[22:07] <Slart> RawIsWar: this seems to work.. only in bash though.. doesn't work in sh, afaik http://lists.pdxlinux.org/pipermail/plug/2003-November/025691.html
[22:07] <tonon> has anyone ever installed WoW on ubuntu before?
[22:07] <qwerty2008> CheesyWeasel, I think ubuntu-tweak does that
[22:08] <theatrus> tonon, it worked with wine last I tried
[22:08] <Flimm1> When I play Urban Terror, after a while, it leaves full screen and goes into window mode, and it makes both my mouse and my keyboard useless
[22:08] <Xitruz> cwillu: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/91151/
[22:08] <CheesyWeasel> qwerty2008: synaptic?
[22:08] <Flimm1> I had to kill Urban Terror by ctrl-alt-f2
[22:08] <tonon> http://www.fsckin.com/2007/12/20/how-to-run-world-of-warcraft-wow-in-linux-using-wine/ explain to me step 6 please
[22:08] <erica647> Main problem I've seen with WoW and Wine is that WoW won't work with alsa sound so can't use WoW and Ventrilo together
[22:08] <RawIsWar> Slart... thanks for the link. I will check it out
[22:08] <Xitruz> cwill: well i think i know it's a driver for the intel wireless cards.
[22:09] <Slart> RawIsWar: here is another link http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/how-to-make-shell-script-wait-for-key-press-to-proceed...-687491/
[22:09] <theatrus> tonon, I've not had to do that on my system
[22:09] <qwerty2008> CheesyWeasel, it's not i the repositories
[22:09] <cwillu> Xitruz, if you don't spell it out completely, I won't see the message unless I happen to be looking at the moment it goes by :p
[22:09] <CheesyWeasel> qwerty2008: oh.
[22:09] <qwerty2008> CheesyWeasel, do you want a link?
[22:09] <frostburn> tonon, use regedit in wine
[22:09] <cwillu> Xitruz, just type "cwi<tab>"
[22:09] <CheesyWeasel> qwerty2008: i googled it.
[22:09] <vivid> does anyone know what packages control screensaver features?  I have gnome-screensaver and gnome-power-manager installed and they are set to have screensavers disabled, yet my monitor continues to go to a blank screen after about 10 minutes
[22:09] <theatrus> tonon, it literally was install, set graphics options in game, run
[22:10] <cwillu> Xitruz, yes, I just understand why it's showing up
[22:10] <Xitruz> cwillu: oh misspeled :P
[22:10] <CheesyWeasel> qwerty2008: will the intrepid .deb work on hardy?
[22:10] <erica647> Theatrus how did you setup wine?
[22:10] <cwillu> Xitruz, I need to run right away here, but sudo rmmod iwl3945 might do something useful
[22:10] <theatrus> did nothing special
[22:10] <tonon> i cant get to the in game after i instaled
[22:10] <Xitruz> cwillu, aaha
[22:10] <qwerty2008> CheesyWeasel, I don't know
[22:10] <tonon> i get a black screen
[22:10] <erica647> Running with Alsa?
[22:11] <tiyowan> vivid: When you move the mouse after your screen goes blank, the display comes back on?
[22:11] <CheesyWeasel> qwerty2008: k. thanks
[22:11] <theatrus> correct, and yes it would have that problem with ventrillo
[22:11] <tonon> and how do i get to the regedit in wine?
[22:11] <vivid> tiyowan: yes
[22:11] <erica647> Tonon try adding -opengl to the end of the main command line for your wow icon
[22:11] <Xitruz> cwillu, well.. what was supposed to happen? :)
[22:12] <cwillu> Xitruz, things were supposed to magically start working :p
[22:12] <Slart> tonon: tried just running regedit in a terminal?
[22:12] <Xitruz> cwillu, sorry for bothering u, but you are my only hope so far :P
[22:12] <cwillu> Xitruz, no output generally means success
[22:12] <erica647> WoW will not run D3D in Wine as far as I know and tries to by default
[22:12] <Xitruz> cwillu, got no output
[22:12] <cwillu> Xitruz, okay, so it unloaded the module correctly
[22:12] <cwillu> whether it did anything is another matter
[22:13] <tiyowan> vivid: From terminal: glxinfo | grep direct - Direct rendering is enabled?
[22:13] <vivid> tiyowan: direct rendering: Yes
[22:13] <vivid>     GL_EXT_direct_state_access, GL_EXT_draw_range_elements, GL_EXT_fog_coord,
[22:13] <Xitruz> cwillu, seems that way :P but the wireless still doest seen to work
[22:13] <tiyowan> vivid: Wait one. Checking...
[22:14] <cwillu> Xitruz, pastebin /etc/modules
[22:14] <Xitruz> cwillu, the thing is I can check or "uncheck" Enable wireless
[22:14] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> hey, hello
[22:15] <Xitruz> cwillu, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/91155/
[22:15] <CheesyWeasel> qwerty2008: do you know where its under in ubuntu-tweak?
[22:15] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> I have a simple question: any way to see mail headers in evolution?
[22:15] <Merrnt> My bluetooth keyboard and mouse both have to be reconnected if I let them idle for a couple of minutes, how do I fix this???
[22:15] <tiyowan> vivid: Are you using Intrepid?
[22:15] <vivid> tiyowan: yea
[22:16] <qwerty2008> CheesyWeasel, http://ubuntu-tweak.com/downloads
[22:17] <cwillu> Xitruz, really gotta go right away now :p  sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, add "blacklist ipw3945" to that file, save, and reboot
[22:17] <cwillu> Xitruz, if that fixes it, then great
[22:17] <computer> ubuntu rules!
[22:17] <cwillu> Xitruz, if it doesn't, sudo gedit that file again, and remove the blacklist (VERY important, as leaving gunk around from troubleshooting only makes troubleshooting harder)
[22:17] <everettz> Trying to create a bootable USB stick with Intrepid.  I have extracted the iso to the root of the flash drive and then renamed /isolinux to /syslinux and /syslinux/isolinux.cfg to /syslinux/syslinux.cfg.  I then ran the win32 version of syslinux "syslinux -s -f -m -a -d /syslinux d:".  Should that get the job done?
[22:17] <Xitruz> cwillu, okej. thanks for all your help so far. :D
[22:18] <tiyowan> vivid: And you're positive that your screensaver options are not set right?
[22:18] <CheesyWeasel> qwerty2008: i know where to download it. i mean where is the feature im looking for. i am browsing through it now
[22:19] <computer> what is something like frostwire?
[22:19] <quentusrex> How do I get a list of all the hardware hard drives I have in a box, and how to I find out which files systems are located on each drive?
[22:19] <computer> better than frostwire
[22:19] <qwerty2008> CheesyWeasel, I don't have it in front of me, but it should be under hotkeys
[22:19] <bazhang> computer, gtk-gnutella
[22:19] <vivid> tiyowan: gnome-screensaver has "Activate when idle" unchecked and power manager is set to "Never"
[22:19] <Jordan_U> everettz, There is currently an option on the liveCD to install to a USB stick, but IIRC from doing it manually that should do it.
[22:19] <gaintsura> I've got a toshiba lapto and the fan on it is dead slow, cant even feel any air pressure coming from the vent, is there a way to speed this up?
[22:20] <vivid> tiyowan: and x-screensaver is uninstalled
[22:20] <tiyowan> vivid: Google hits a bug report. Wait one. Checking...
[22:20] <DreamLnr> again: is it possible that after upgrading from gutsy to ibex some programs might not work properly or at all?
[22:20] <wubrgamer> okay
[22:20] <wubrgamer> it's still not working
[22:20] <bazhang> DreamLnr, like what
[22:21] <CheesyWeasel> i upgraded to hardy recently and now whenever i press fn+f2 (my mute button because i assigned it that way) a little info bubble pops out of my battery icon and tells me how much battery life i have remaining. its a great feature but i would like it reassigned to another keystroke. how would i go about doing that?
[22:21] <simon_b> could you comment that fstab: http://www.pastebin.ca/1291769
[22:21] <tiyowan> vivid: Indeed, this is a known issue. You might want to try the options in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=584406&p=3651954 as a workaround.
[22:21] <DreamLnr> bazhang, like xchat open office wireless bluetooth kde etc
[22:22] <bazhang> DreamLnr, kde is not an app; xchat works fine as do wireless, open office etc
[22:22] <everettz> Jordan_U: Thanks, I thought that was the right way, but figured I'd ask to save a troubleshooting step.  Trying to get Ubuntu installed on an eee pc 900ha and I'm completely blind.  unfortunately neither of the eee distros have an accessible installer.
[22:22] <joejc> can viruses run in wine?
[22:22] <DreamLnr> bazhang, one i installed an update for feisty i had at that time
[22:22] <vivid> tiyowan: thanks
[22:22] <Stanlin> joejc: i think so
[22:22] <everettz> Does anyone know if Intrepid will support audio on the eee pc 900ha without modifying the kernel?
[22:22] <DreamLnr> and that messed up my screen brightness
[22:23] <fortytwo> using ubuntu 8.10, when using xrandr to enable a second screen, my gnome panels all jump to the second screen. how can i avoid this?
[22:23] <Stanlin> eee still exists?
[22:23] <DreamLnr> brightness buttons
[22:23] <bazhang> DreamLnr, you are using feisty now?
[22:23] <DreamLnr> no
[22:23] <DreamLnr> gutsy
[22:23] <tiyowan> vivid: No worries, mate. Hope it helps.
[22:23] <bazhang> Stanlin, yes of course
[22:23] <benedek> everettz: I had issues with that; I didn't have to _modify_ the kernel, just get another one :P
[22:24] <benedek> everettz: Oh, wait, I used Hardy. Sorry
[22:24] <Priswell> I've installed Ubuntu 8.10 onto a desktop that has a nVidia GeForce 6200 Turbo Cache video card. When it boots to desktop, I see blinking ribbons of color - the video card is obviously not working correctly. How do I get the video card straightened out if I can't even see the screen?
[22:24] <Hangwire> hi people.
[22:25] <CheesyWeasel> i upgraded to hardy recently and now whenever i press fn+f2 (my mute button because i assigned it that way) a little info bubble pops out of my battery icon and tells me how much battery life i have remaining. its a great feature but i would like it reassigned to another keystroke. how would i go about doing that?
[22:25] <tiyowan> Priswell: Can you get to a terminal by pressing Ctrl-Alt-F1?
[22:25] <Priswell> Yes, I can get to terminal.