 High CPU too. Is that new in 42 or just me noticing now?
[07:03] <oSoMoN> hey duflu
[07:04] <duflu> Maybe ignore me. Nautilus 42 is only slow in gnome-shell 42 for some reason.
[07:58] <duflu> Gotta love scalable vector graphics: /usr/share/backgrounds/gnome/blobs-l.svg is 4550 bytes in size
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[00:02] <mhall119> np
[00:40] <cjohnston> svwilliams: i replied to the bug
[03:00] <nigelb> mhall119: can haz code review?
[03:18] <mhall119> nigelb: not tonight, sorry, try me again in the morning
[03:18] <nigelb> mhall119: okay :)
[11:47] <cjohnston> loco-directory is now loco-team-portal on launchpad
[11:50] <nigelb> yay!
[11:50] <nigelb> cjohnston: oh dear.
[11:50] <nigelb> cjohnston: now our links to file bugs have broken.
[11:50] <cjohnston> nope
[11:50] <nigelb> (bitesize bug yay)
[11:51] <cjohnston> i got them to create an alias
[11:51] <cjohnston> but yes
[11:51] <cjohnston> bitesize bug
[11:51] <nigelb> Alias, nice!
[11:51] <cjohnston> launchpad.net/loco-directory still works
[11:51] <cjohnston> im filing the bug now
[11:51] <nigelb> I see that now.  Good job.
[12:17] <daker> mhall119_, http://www.flickr.com/photos/37955218@N08/6327131277/in/set-72157627962230661/lightbox/
[12:17] <daker> http://www.flickr.com/photos/37955218@N08/6327131937/in/set-72157627962230661/lightbox/
[12:24] <cjohnston> nice daker
[12:25] <cjohnston> daker: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150443316996018&set=a.10150443310536018.417795.603051017&type=3   what happens when the LC gets ahold of a LTP dev
[12:28] <daker> LoL
[12:32] <cjohnston> nigelb: did you notice the comment on the <name>2 bug?
[12:34] <nigelb> cjohnston: by sinzui? yeah.
[12:34] <nigelb> benji is looking into the openid bug today.
[12:34] <nigelb> I was planning to catching up with him.
[12:34] <cjohnston> ok
[13:11] <cjohnston> mhall119: is the ec2 for dev work 24/7 or do you turn it off
[13:16] <mhall119> cjohnston: I turn it off
[13:57] <nigelb> mhall119: help! code review :)
[13:58] <mhall119> ok, okay
[13:58] <mhall119> links?
[13:59] <nigelb> sec
[14:00] <nigelb> https://code.launchpad.net/~nigelbabu/summit/crew-fix/+merge/81153
[14:00] <nigelb> https://code.launchpad.net/~nigelbabu/summit/common-app/+merge/81630
[14:00] <nigelb> https://code.launchpad.net/~nigelbabu/summit/django-openid-auth-version/+merge/81675
[14:00] <nigelb> mhall119: ^^
[14:00] <cjohnston> lol
[14:00] <nigelb> :D
[14:00] <cjohnston> im setting up to get going on ltp
[14:00] <nigelb> two of them are one-line changes
[14:00] <cjohnston> then i can hopefully help out
[14:00] <nigelb> so, I have the idea of not removing render.py or associted views
[14:01] <nigelb> but move them to other names
[14:01] <nigelb> and have new views to replace them.
[14:51] <nigelb> cjohnston: https://code.launchpad.net/~nigelbabu/summit/docs-cleaning/+merge/81862
[14:52] <nigelb> Updated the docs after you tried it out.
[18:48] <nigelb> mhall119: Don't forget the code review :)
[18:48]  * nigelb heads to bed
[21:45] <doctormo-sda1> Hey guys, how's the merge requests going?
[21:46] <cjohnston> doctormo-sda1: i reviewed yours and proposed a merge into yours
[21:46] <doctormo-sda1> cjohnston: Awesome, thanks. I was confused by your last answer on monday.
[21:47] <doctormo-sda1> Did you want me to review a few branches or were you saying they'd all been reviewed already?
[21:47] <cjohnston> i had wanted you to review
[21:47] <cjohnston> if you will review mine and merge it into yours...
[21:48] <cjohnston> i have 3 other reviews that i did the code that im waiting on reviews
[21:48] <cjohnston> svwilliams: ping
[21:49] <doctormo-sda1> cjohnston: You have 3 merge requests which you want reviewed, one of which is into my event-design branch?
[21:50] <cjohnston> 4.. one of which is into your event-design
[21:55] <doctormo-sda1> Understood, I'll get to some reviewin' tonight for you.
[21:56] <cjohnston> that'd be awesome
[21:56] <cjohnston> thanks for the work.. it was something that needed to be done
[22:09] <svwilliams> cjohnston, pong
[22:11] <cjohnston> svwilliams: im around if you need help
[22:11] <svwilliams> oh cjohnston I figured out my problem with pulling down data
[22:11] <svwilliams> I can't read instructions very well
[22:11] <svwilliams> make live
[22:11] <svwilliams> not make lp
[22:11] <svwilliams> sigh
[22:11] <svwilliams> I now have data to play with so I can work on those bugs
[22:12] <svwilliams> I'm packing up and relocating (still at work right now) if I run into anything and you are on I'll let you know
[22:12] <svwilliams> and ask lots of questions :-)
[22:12] <cjohnston> ok


[15:14] <jcastro> hey rick_h_
[15:14] <jcastro> the bug link on new jujucharms.com points to juju-website
[15:14] <jcastro> is that where you want all the bugs?
[15:33] <hatch> jcastro: yep
[15:56] <rick_h_> uiteam kanban please call in 4
[15:57] <rick_h_> jcastro: no, we've got that updated in trunk but not released yet
[15:57] <rick_h_> jcastro: https://github.com/CanonicalLtd/jujucharms.com/issues
[15:57] <jcastro> oh, I filed in the wrong place then. :-/
[15:58] <rick_h_> jcastro: sorry for the confusion.
[15:58] <rick_h_> jcastro: what was the bug you filed? I'll copy it over and get it set up
[15:58] <jcastro> are you guys going to resolve the old bugs before the "move" to the link?
[15:58] <jcastro> some still appear valid
[15:59] <rick_h_> jcastro: where are you looking?
[15:59] <jcastro> https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-website/+bug/1398870
[15:59] <mup> Bug #1398870: Share button should use microdata <Juju Website:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1398870>
[15:59] <rick_h_> jcastro: I'm not aware of what 'juju-website' is
[15:59] <jcastro> the footer on a charm's page links there
[16:00] <jcastro> http://jujucharms.com/trusty/owncloud for example
[16:00] <rick_h_> ok yea, I'll go through these today
[16:00] <rick_h_> thanks for the heads up
[16:00] <jcastro> at the very bottom
[16:20] <hatch> rick_h_: So it looks like Huw's branch has been fixed but the new update that he pushed never triggered a ci build
[16:20] <hatch> I'll trigger one manually then it should be good to land if it passes
[16:21] <rick_h_> hatch: k thx
[16:52] <rick_h_> jcastro: what charm did you try to share? We have G+ microdata currently maybe we missed something
[16:53] <rick_h_> oh hmm, will look at updating it. Looks like it treats things different if I do a post and add the link vs hitting the G+ link and such
[17:05] <jcastro> rick_h_, yeah
[17:06] <jcastro> I was thinking if we seeded it with the charm logo
[17:06] <jcastro> that would look slick
[17:06] <jcastro> so  like, it's all about sharing the service
[17:32] <rick_h_> jcastro: right, I thought we had that, will get it fixed up
[17:33] <teslanick> hatch: http://www.sunnyskyz.com/uploads/2014/11/7adso-states10.jpg
[17:33] <teslanick> FREE HEALTHCARE + BEARS
[17:34] <hatch> lol - no it's not free
[17:34] <hatch> we pay for it in our income taxes :)
[17:34] <teslanick> From: http://www.sunnyskyz.com/blog/563/People-In-London-Tried-To-Label-The-50-US-States-On-A-Map-These-Are-The-Hilarious-Results
[17:35] <teslanick> So: it's as free as the UK health care system
[17:37] <hatch> :)
[17:39] <hatch> however there is a very good consequence of the 'national health care' is that the hospitals and such can buy items in bulk meaning better prices
[17:39] <hatch> whereas in the US each place is essentially on it's own for negotiations
[17:39] <hatch> saw a pretty good documentary on that
[17:39] <hatch> of course it was on....cable....so I can't link it or anything lol
[17:41] <hatch> headline: Saskatoon's St. Paul's Hospital has highest rate of in-facility deaths
[17:41] <hatch> quote: Morrison said patients coming to St. Paul's shouldn't be concerned.
[17:41] <hatch> umm....
[17:41] <hatch> http://www.mysask.com/portal/site/main/template.MAXIMIZE/?javax.portlet.tpst=59fea5a22cbb130bab9e3c1070315ae8_ws_MX&javax.portlet.prp_59fea5a22cbb130bab9e3c1070315ae8_viewID=story&javax.portlet.prp_59fea5a22cbb130bab9e3c1070315ae8_topic_display_name=Health%20News&javax.portlet.prp_59fea5a22cbb130bab9e3c1070315ae8_topic_name=Health&javax.portlet.prp_59fea5a22cbb130bab9e3c1070315ae8_news_item_id_key=30954886&javax.portlet.begCacheTok=com
[17:41] <hatch> .vignette.cachetoken&javax.portlet.endCacheTok=com.vignette.cachetoken
[17:41] <hatch> yeah....look at THAT url
[17:41] <hatch> lol
[17:56] <teslanick> It's bad when the url exceeds the maxlength of an IRC message.
[18:05] <hatch> lol
[18:13] <rick_h_> hatch: any chance you can drive-by https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1398891 ? seems like a small target mismatch
[18:13] <mup> Bug #1398891: The change version close button closes the inspector <juju-gui:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1398891>
[18:14] <rick_h_> hatch: if not adding a card/etc but curious if it's a one-liner
[18:14] <hatch> looking
[18:15] <hatch> <i class="sprite close-inspector-click"></i>
[18:15] <hatch> heh
[18:15] <hatch> it's probably going to be more than a one liner because it's using the sprite class as the trigger
[18:15] <hatch> it'll be a small cart
[18:15] <hatch> card
[18:16] <hatch> but need test and all that
[18:16] <hatch> so... :)
[18:16] <rick_h_> hatch: ok adding a acrd
[18:19] <rick_h_> hatch: what's the diff in your current card and the one in the ready to code around using serach with the bug attached?
[18:20] <hatch> umm
[18:20] <hatch> I didn't see that one when I made my current one
[18:20] <hatch> :)
[18:21] <rick_h_> ok
[22:00] <huwshimi> Morning
[22:06] <hatch> morning huwshimi
[22:06] <hatch> your branch was landed
[22:06] <huwshimi> hatch: Hey, thanks for that
[22:07] <hatch> no problemo
[22:13] <huwshimi> hatch: Do you happen to know how env/go.js actually interacts with juju?
[22:13] <hatch> I do
[22:14] <hatch> what's your question
[22:14] <hatch> or is that the question?
[22:14] <hatch> :)
[22:15] <huwshimi> hatch: No I just wanted to know if anyone ACTUALLY UNDERSTOOD IT!
[22:16] <hatch> no I don't understand it, but I know how it works
[22:16] <hatch> lol
[22:16] <hatch> huwshimi: it's weird because we need a way to switch between backends
[22:16] <hatch> sandbox, juju-core, (pyjuju)
[22:17] <hatch> but also the way it was set up initially makes it very hard to follow heh
[22:17] <huwshimi> hatch: So I want to have a feature that changes depending on juju version. So I need to add what amounts to 'juju --version' on the console
[22:18] <hatch> hmm
[22:19] <hatch> huwshimi: I'd probably do this in the charm and then have it update the config files
[22:19] <hatch> unless you think the juju version will change out from under the gui?
[22:19] <hatch> I suppose that's possible...
[22:21] <huwshimi> I have no idea
[22:21] <hatch> ok lets chat about it a bit more
[22:22] <huwshimi> hatch: There's a card under Project 1 titled "lock down username as 'admin' if juju < 1.21"
[22:24] <hatch> thx
[22:25] <rick_h_> huwshimi: I talked with Makyo about this today
[22:25] <Makyo> hatch, huwshimi version is returned in env info, but we need that beforehand.  rick_h_ and I discussed having the charm put it in config
[22:25] <Makyo> ^^
[22:25] <rick_h_> huwshimi: we're not sure if juju exposes it
[22:26] <hatch> heh yeah I was just saying that in the other chan :)
[22:26] <Makyo> Sorry, I couldn't figure it out there, seemed like only half of a conversation :)
[22:27] <huwshimi> Makyo: It was only half a conversion :)
[22:27] <rick_h_> :)
[22:27] <hatch> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~juju-gui-charmers/charms/trusty/juju-gui/trunk/view/head:/hooks/utils.py#L347
[22:27] <hatch> there we go
[22:27] <hatch> knew it was there somewhere
[22:27] <Makyo> The Makyos are easily confused.
[22:28] <Makyo> Yeah, it'd just go in there.
[22:29] <hatch> might want to do the js side first, see how you want it to work out then update the charm
[22:29] <hatch> forget that...just add the version to the config and call it a day :)
[22:29] <Makyo> hatch, huwshimi I've got a test branch with some of those changes in it already  Should be simple.
[22:30] <hatch> oh cool
[22:31] <rick_h_> huwshimi: Makyo and by all means please feel free to update the cards to do based on new info and such
[22:31] <rick_h_> huwshimi: Makyo those were just my initial stabs/guesses looking at the task to be done and how it looked at first
[22:32] <huwshimi> Makyo: Do you want me to leave that one with you then? Sounds like you're on it...
[22:33] <huwshimi> rick_h_: Are we doing all this under a feature flag?
[22:34] <Makyo> huwshimi, rick_h_ I don't know that we need to, since the feature should be complete within a release cycle, right?
[22:34] <rick_h_> huwshimi: if needed. If each branch keeps the old system working then I'd not worry abou tit?
[22:34] <rick_h_> Makyo: well, I was thinking most of this should still enable logging in right?
[22:34] <rick_h_> Makyo: if not, then yes we should FF just in case we need a release before it's done
[22:34] <Makyo> Sure, that sounds fine.
[22:35] <Makyo> huwshimi, I'll pull what I have together into a branch worth proposing and it can at least be an incremental step.
[22:35] <huwshimi> Makyo: OK, sounds goo
[22:35] <huwshimi> *good
[23:15] <hatch> rick_h_: so I don't think I can actually get all of these bundles to be converted back to their old versions
[23:15] <hatch> old id's
[23:16] <hatch> basket: mongodb
[23:16] <hatch> version: 5
[23:16] <hatch> bundle: cluster
[23:16] <hatch> cs:~jorge/bundle/mongodb-5
[23:16] <hatch> lp:~jorge/charms/bundles/mongodb/bundle
[23:18] <hatch> I suppose I could parse the bundle.yaml.orig but that might be overkill for a temporary fix :)
[23:21] <hatch> unless of course it's not going to be very temporary
[23:22] <hatch> :)


[00:00] <tgm4883> it helps, but even then, it can be a long process
[00:01] <tgm4883> i'd rather have an implementation that can either update the show list when I go into a specific show, or just grab the shows that I want to watch
[00:01] <tgm4883> either of those would be much faster
[00:10] <vizo1> tgm4883: I am running th gethulu.pl first. I see what you mean.
[00:10] <vizo1> "print() on closed filehandle MYTHMENU at /usr/local/bin/gethulu.pl" is that suppose to happen?
[00:13] <vizo1> hrm could not locate streamui in streams
[00:24] <vizo1> ah fixed it
[00:30] <moj0rising> silly question. I can't seem to find the port the myth back-end listens on in mythbuntu. it doesn not appear to be 6543, which mythweb expects. Can anyone tell me the port I should change the mythweb configuration to check?
[00:30] <sirhc_> hey guys .. i found some info that i think will get my remote going, but i am having some trouble understanding exactly how to implement the instructions. if any of you have a min. would you go through it with me and help clarify the grey areas?
[00:35] <moj0rising> more information on my setup: the mythtv setup program indicates the port is 6543 but a simple netcat test yelds "connection refused"
[00:38] <Marsupilami23> Can someone help me figure out why my frontend is not connecting to my backend? Both are the same computer, set to localhost. So I'm stumped.
[00:41] <sirhc_> moj0rising: i thought the default listen is 6044 --- server runs on 6043 listen for front-end on 6044
[00:42] <sirhc_> Marsupilami23: did you change the ip during setup??
[00:42] <Marsupilami23> Nope
[00:42] <moj0rising> thanks, sirhc_ checking that now...
[00:42] <sirhc_> should be <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:42] <Marsupilami23> was weird, I did have to change the mysql password for mythtv
[00:42] <Marsupilami23> it's localhost
[00:43] <moj0rising> sirhc_: don't think that's it on my machine: us@myth:~$ nc -zv localhost 6044
[00:43] <moj0rising> localhost [<IP_ADDRESS>] 6044 (?) : Connection refused
[00:47] <moj0rising> can someone point me to a configuration file I can check to see what port the back-end should be listening on?
[00:47] <moj0rising> I already checked /usr/bin/mythtv-setup but it's not there
[01:02] <Marsupilami23> I'm getting a "Connection timed out." from the frontend
[01:03] <Marsupilami23> seems to be connecting to the correct host:port
[01:32] <Marsupilami23> this is aggravating
[03:17] <Sharkonwheels> Issue with viewing recordings/Live TV - video freezes. H/W: old PCI WinTV, ATi Radeon 9550XL (256MB), Athlon XP 2.2gHz, 512Mb RAM, 80GB SATA, Mythbuntu 8.10
[03:17] <Sharkonwheels> Using ATI Prop. fglrx, TV-out works, LiveTV/Recording watching don't. Using FOSS ATI driver, TV-out doesn't work, but LiveTV/Recording watching does work :)
[03:18] <Sharkonwheels> just bought an HVR-1600 at C/C ($57) and a PCTV PCI card ($44) plus a 500GB SATA2 ($74) for better build-up
[03:20] <Sharkonwheels> Oh - can't get audio out. ALSA audio is working (using sound test on Settings>login>accessibility) but can't get the mappings down. I assume the HVR-1600 will allow me to NOT need the line-out-to-line-in bs cable...
[03:51] <mike_hurley> anybody else have dvd menu problems from when playing a dvd iso
[03:51] <mike_hurley> ?
[03:52] <mike_hurley> for this 1 dvd i get a thick blue line at the top while playing in the internal player so i'm trying vlc and xine
[03:53] <mike_hurley> with vlc it'll go the menu correctly but i can't navigate the menu
[03:53] <mike_hurley> in xine, it'll start out with the first menu item selected, but once i use left/right keys i lose the ability to browse (no items are selected and i cant bring the focus back)
[04:01] <rhpot1991> mike_hurley: guessing the dvd might be doing something weird then
[04:07] <mike_hurley> rhpot1991: well in vlc's case, if i run vlc gui and then load the dvd iso, menu browsing works just fine
[04:08] <mike_hurley> if run the vlc gui first and load the iso, the menu works just fine, but when mythtv starts up vlc, i can't browse the menu
[04:19] <JymmmEMC> Is there  a list of potential front ends (diskless?) by chance
[04:40] <Sharkonwheels> fyi, CircCity has the Hauppauge HVR-1600's @ $59, Pinnacle PCTV HD PCI @ $47, and I got (2) Seagate 500GB 7.2K SATA2 drives @ $70/ea
[04:41] <rhpot1991>  Sharkonwheels happen to see what home audio percentage is at now?
[04:42] <Sharkonwheels> sorry - didn't see it - gimme a few to check the email :)
[04:43] <Sharkonwheels> 30% off
[04:43] <rhpot1991> darn, needs to hit 40% before they even compare with amazon/newegg
[04:44] <Sharkonwheels> linkage: http://email.circuitcity.com/W0RH00317E3D1F6AA32C52FAF242C0
[04:44] <Sharkonwheels> yeah...i know...even in liq their prices are still sometimes crazy.
[04:44] <Sharkonwheels> example: SimpleTech external 2.5" USB2 320GB drive, $139.99 *DISCOUNTED*
[04:44] <Sharkonwheels> I paid $135 in Feb 2008 @ best Buy!
[04:44] <Sharkonwheels> a dang YEAR ago!
[04:45] <rhpot1991> yep
[04:45] <Sharkonwheels> actually, make that january - it went on a Feb trip with me to LA
[04:48] <Sharkonwheels> computer acces at 40% off, I figured it was a decent time to get a couple things. If the Pinnacle PCI card works OK, I'll get a 2nd in a week or 2 when they (hopefully) drop to 50% off
[04:50] <MythbuntuGuest28> weird, rip .iso of aladdin in mythtv and also windows, rips fine but won't play, any ideas?
[04:51] <MythbuntuGuest28> foxbuntu, I got the Lite-On dvd burner, working great
[04:51] <MythbuntuGuest28> any luck with the good cover art script?
[04:54] <foxbuntu> MythbuntuGuest28, nope, been too busy, and besides that, there is some change in Upstream that is going to make the scripts go away in .22
[04:54] <MythbuntuGuest28> ok, no prob, it's easy to get them
[04:54]  * rhpot1991 wonders if tmdb has better data now
[05:02] <MythbuntuGuest28> if anybody has had similar problems, wondering if there is a solution, rip aladdin to .iso and also used dvd decryptor, generates the .iso both programs but hangs up playing at the blue dvd warning screen?????  Is it an mplayer issue?
[05:03] <rhpot1991> MythbuntuGuest28: most likely copy protection
[05:03] <MythbuntuGuest28> so no way around that?
[05:04] <MythbuntuGuest28> bummer, my boy's favorite movie
[05:04] <rhpot1991> MythbuntuGuest28: google
[05:04] <rhpot1991> odds are you will need to remove the protection
[05:04] <rhpot1991> you could try using gddrescue
[05:05] <MythbuntuGuest28> even if the .iso creates fine?
[05:06] <rhpot1991> its a tricky area, some dvds do things with the menus so you can rip fine but it does weird things on playback
[05:06] <rhpot1991> your best bet is to google something like "ripping aladdin" and read around
[05:06] <JymmmEMC> rhpot1991: huh?
[05:06] <MythbuntuGuest28> i tried that, no luck?
[05:07] <JymmmEMC> rhpot1991: what weird things on playback?
[05:07] <MythbuntuGuest28> it basically just hangs at the blue dvd warning menu, never gets past it
[05:07] <MythbuntuGuest28> but the video is normal
[05:07] <JymmmEMC> MythbuntuGuest28: and how did you "rip" the dvd?
[05:08] <rhpot1991> JymmmEMC: things that cause it not to playback
[05:08] <MythbuntuGuest28> well when i ripped it with dvddecryptor it had remove macrovision protection checked
[05:09] <JymmmEMC> Sorry to sound arrogant, but I've never had an issue on playback of any iso I've created, so I've never seen such a thing.
[05:09] <MythbuntuGuest28> with myth i did to .iso with ac3 track, and also tried dvd decryptor
[05:09] <JymmmEMC> MythbuntuGuest28: You know there's MUCH more than just macrovision, right?
[05:09] <MythbuntuGuest28> i typically have never seen an issue with a rip, this is first for me
[05:10] <JymmmEMC> MythbuntuGuest28: Ah, well try any of the SAW movies =)
[05:10] <MythbuntuGuest28> same issues?
[05:10] <JymmmEMC> Well, no. you never get that far =)
[05:11] <MythbuntuGuest28> ic, it's just weird i get an iso and it won't play back
[05:11] <JymmmEMC> try with vlc
[05:11] <MythbuntuGuest28> ok, will do that
[05:11] <JymmmEMC> it'll play iso's directly
[05:12] <MythbuntuGuest28> well, actually mplayer plays it, it just hangs up at first image
[05:12] <JymmmEMC> In my media library, I tend to remove everything but ac3 and english subtitles. no menus, no extras, just the main stuff
[05:13] <JymmmEMC> If I need any of that for whatever reason, I can pull out the original dvd if need be
[05:13] <MythbuntuGuest28> right, i do the same
[05:13] <rhpot1991> JymmmEMC: I've heard (never seen) of some that do things after the copywrite screen or previews
[05:14] <MythbuntuGuest28> probably this one
[05:14] <rhpot1991> for me I've only ever hit one that I wasn't able to successfully watch with a combination of gddrescue and xine
[05:14] <rhpot1991> MythbuntuGuest28: I'd doubt it, but you never know
[05:14] <JymmmEMC> oh sure, that are all kinds of copy protections, all the SAW movies for one. and one of the hardest I've ever come across was "The Express"
[05:15] <rhpot1991> vantage point was a bugger, and a ginormous waste of my time on more than one level
[05:15] <JymmmEMC> First time ever I had to rip to hdd, then reauthor.
[05:15] <JymmmEMC> out of like 700 movies
[05:16] <MythbuntuGuest28> hmm, guess there are just a few toughies
[05:16] <MythbuntuGuest28> i doubt this is one, seems like it's something else
[05:16] <JymmmEMC> Oh, is there s list of (diskless?) front ends by chance?
[05:16] <JymmmEMC> MythbuntuGuest28: what title?
[05:16] <MythbuntuGuest28> Aladdin
[05:16] <JymmmEMC> when was it release on dvd?
[05:17] <MythbuntuGuest28> 2004
[05:17] <JymmmEMC> Hmmm, maybe the things you used are not up to par for all of the protections
[05:17] <rhpot1991> MythbuntuGuest28: it isn't scratched/damaged is it?
[05:17] <rhpot1991> 2004 release shouldn't be too tough now
[05:18] <MythbuntuGuest28> no, not that I am aware of, plays fine in all other players
[05:18] <JymmmEMC> rip to hdd then reauthor and see how that goes
[05:18] <MythbuntuGuest28> what programms
[05:19] <Sharkonwheels> Is an Athlon XP 2.2gHz fast enough for live TV? Mine's skipping (400fsb, 512Mb DDR 400, A-XP 3200+ 2.2gHz, Haupp HVR-1600)
[05:19] <Sharkonwheels> not doing anything else in the background
[05:19] <MythbuntuGuest51> Hi I am having problems using a Diseqc switch.  I have 2 lnbs one on port 1 and the other on port 2.  the diseqc works fine in works but in myth I can only get it to work with port one of the switch.  Help anyone?
[05:19] <rhpot1991> Sharkonwheels: HD or SD?
[05:19] <Sharkonwheels> SD
[05:19] <MythbuntuGuest51> not works, windows
[05:20] <rhpot1991> Sharkonwheels: should be good enough for SD, do you have restricted drivers for your video loaded?
[05:20] <rhpot1991> Sharkonwheels: run top see what usage is like
[05:21] <MythbuntuGuest51> !help
[05:21] <Zinn> !help Use ! followed by a topic to get help on the topic (if it exists) example: !logs.  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].  For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi
[05:21] <Sharkonwheels> yep - ATI. sorry, video card is ATI Radeon 9550XL 256MB AGP 8X
[05:21] <MythbuntuGuest51> !help !diseqc
[05:21] <Sharkonwheels> using prop fglrx
[05:21] <Zinn> !help !diseqc Use ! followed by a topic to get help on the topic (if it exists) example: !logs.  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].  For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi
[05:21] <MythbuntuGuest51> !diseqc
[05:21] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about diseqc
[05:21] <rhpot1991> MythbuntuGuest51: I can guarantee you he doesn't know that
[05:26] <rhpot1991> !help
[05:26] <Zinn> !help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[05:26] <Sharkonwheels> crapola - hovering in the low 80% range
[05:26] <Sharkonwheels> 82-85%  that normal, even using mpeg2? doesn't the HVR-1600 have onboard MPEG2?
[05:27] <Sharkonwheels> I am using box-stock mythbuntu 8.10 - anything I should upgrade, ie, card fw file, cx18 driver, etc... ?
[05:30] <rhpot1991> Sharkonwheels: my 1900+ runs 40% or so with SD
[05:31] <rhpot1991> might want to check your playback profiles and make sure you are actually using fglrx
[05:36] <MythbuntuGuest28> what is a good HD capture card for playing over the air HD with mythtv?
[05:37] <rhpot1991> HDHR
[05:37] <rhpot1991> MythbuntuGuest28: http://www.silicondust.com/
[05:38] <MythbuntuGuest28> thanks, looks good
[05:41] <MythbuntuGuest28> what is a good way to rip and reauthor, use windows tools or linux?
[05:42] <MythbuntuGuest28> i have dvdshrink, dvddecryptor for windows
[06:17] <Sharkonwheels> rhpot1991: setup>setup>tv settings>playback?
[06:17] <Sharkonwheels> set it to PVR350, IVTV, same diff
[06:18] <Sharkonwheels> (I have an HVR-1600, which elsewhere says to set it up as a PVR-350)
[06:18] <Sharkonwheels> I don't see anywhere where you mention the video card driver
[06:39] <JymmmEMC> Shadow__X: 512m seems low
[06:39] <Shadow__X> wha
[06:40] <JymmmEMC> sorry, for guy that left
[06:40] <JymmmEMC> nick completion ftw
[06:40] <Shadow__X> how about auto name completion xchat maemo linux
[06:40] <Shadow__X> ftw
[06:40] <Shadow__X> doesnt even work
[06:41] <JymmmEMC> I started typing as he was just leaving
[06:41] <JymmmEMC> you know how it is... all you sha* people look alike!
[06:42] <Shadow__X> right
[06:42] <Shadow__X> of course
[06:42] <JymmmEMC> sha<tab> if there's more than one of ya, oh well =)
[06:44] <andrboot> Hai
[06:44] <andrboot> is this place less quiet? heh. anywho I have a shiney ATI RAge 128 Pro onboard :p how can i better video playback.. vesa is garbage
[06:44] <andrboot> my tv struggles o.ol
[06:44] <JymmmEMC> three chars (26^3) = 17K combinations... if ya can't find a unique nick in that not much I can say =)
[06:45] <JymmmEMC> isn't there resitricted drivers for ati?
[06:46] <Shadow__X> yes
[06:46] <Shadow__X> fglrx
[06:48] <andrboot> Shadow__X does that actually work for a ati-128 rage pro?
[06:49] <Shadow__X> hmm
[06:49] <Shadow__X> is that a laptop card
[06:49] <Shadow__X> or is that just an old desktop one
[06:49] <andrboot> server :p
[06:50] <andrboot> Hp Ml sucker
[06:50] <Shadow__X> p3?
[06:50] <andrboot> p4
[06:50] <andrboot> 3ghz
[06:50] <Sharkonwheels> rhpot1991: if you're still around, I'm on the box itself now
[06:50] <Shadow__X> still dont think its gonna work
[06:50] <andrboot> Shadow__X crap
[06:50] <Shadow__X> maybe mesa or just vesa
[06:50] <andrboot> hmm.
[06:50] <andrboot> damnit
[06:50] <Shadow__X> whats wrong with vesa
[06:50] <Shadow__X> thatll work
[06:50] <andrboot> Shadow__X chew's cpu
[06:50] <andrboot> can't want HDTv with that o.o
[06:51] <Shadow__X> lol
[06:51] <Shadow__X> go get a new gpu
[06:51] <andrboot> Shadow__X can't no agp :p
[06:51] <andrboot> its a server lol.
[06:52] <Sharkonwheels> Issue: LiveTV/watch recordings is skippy. Using ATI proproetary driver (ATI Radeon 9550XL 356MB), Hauppauge HVR-1600, Athlon XP 3200+. Top shows 85%+ cpu use, so I gotta have something set wrong
[06:52] <Sharkonwheels> er, 9550XL w/256MB
[06:54] <andrboot> o.o
[06:54] <andrboot> blech
[06:54] <andrboot> going to give f* a go
[06:54] <andrboot> gg
[06:54] <andrboot> *fgrlx
[06:54] <andrboot> o.o mirros so slow o.o
[06:55] <JymmmEMC> Sharkonwheels: Didn't you say you only had 512MB ram?
[06:57] <JymmmEMC> it's probably swapping out to hdd
[07:01] <Sharkonwheels> yep - over 200mb available, says top, though
[07:02] <Sharkonwheels> right now, mythtv open, I have 92mb free RAM according to top
[07:05] <Sharkonwheels> swap shows 87MB of 1GB used
[07:08] <Sharkonwheels> brb, rebooting
[07:30] <Sharkonwheels> JymmmEMC: funny thing, is I have no issues using the FOSS video driver, but there's not TV-out on that for AMD
[07:31] <Sharkonwheels> TV watching is fine, and fluid, recorded video is fine, as well
[07:31] <JymmmEMC> Well using any swap imo is a bad thing. ram is cheap
[07:32] <Sharkonwheels> CPU utilization is now 20-21% using the FOSS video driver
[07:32] <Sharkonwheels> using the fgrlx, it goes to 80-85 cpu util
[07:33] <JymmmEMC> toss in 2gb and see if things improve.
[07:33] <Sharkonwheels> heh - got no DDR400 to toss in this box, unfortunately
[07:33] <JymmmEMC> hit the store in the morning
[07:33] <Sharkonwheels> just the (2) corsair XMS 256MB sticks I have in there
[07:34] <JymmmEMC> return em and get 2x1gb
[07:34] <Sharkonwheels> RAM can't be the prob, if it works fine using the FOSS driver, and skips using the fgrlx driver?
[07:34] <Sharkonwheels> these (2) sticks I bought in 2003 - 'member, it's an Athlon XP 3200+!
[07:34] <Sharkonwheels> this was a machine I had in the garage!
[07:35] <JymmmEMC> great then 2x1gb will only be $30 or so
[07:36] <JymmmEMC> steal ram from another box for testing
[07:36] <JymmmEMC> it if fixes the issue, cheap solution
[07:59] <n2mbuntu> I've just started with mythbuntu. I'm trying to make mythfrontend to start automatically after boot. And just that, does not need gdm starting, so I've disabled that.
[08:00] <n2mbuntu> I've added 2 lines to /etc/event.d/tty7
[08:00] <n2mbuntu> exec /bin/openvt -fwc 2 -- /bin/su - mythtv -c /usr/bin/startx
[08:00] <n2mbuntu> console none
[08:02] <n2mbuntu> and they start frontend after boot, but frontend is bitching about backend not running. And does not respond to keyboard. I have to ssh in and kill xinit program. Then it restarts and works
[08:03] <n2mbuntu> How can I get it to work straight after boot, without killing anything?
[17:48] <MythbuntuGuest78> is there a command to bring mythtv out of sleep...if i send an space bar command from ip it will wake the monitor, however i still get no video until i physically wake it will a keyboard.
[18:15] <tgm4883> MythbuntuGuest78, did you try sending a down arrow?
[18:15] <tgm4883> you should just be able to use your remote though?
[18:23] <MythbuntuGuest78> i have not tried a down arrow...but i am using a touchpanel and sending the ip commands. I am not using an IR remote
[18:24] <MythbuntuGuest78> sending a key down command did not work
[18:30] <JymmmEMC> Is there a list of (diskless?) front ends by chance?
[18:49] <MythbuntuGuest78> tgm4883, have any other ideas?
[18:49] <MythbuntuGuest78> even the MyMote application for the iphone has the same problem in that it will not wake up the mythtv unless a video starts playing
[18:53] <MythbuntuGuest78> actually that doesnt even work you get audio just no video
[19:26] <ruben-> I specified "Medion MD1 NBC" in the mythbuntu control centre, I've found that /usr/share/lirc/remotes/atiusb/lircd.conf.atiusb contains a good configuration for my remote, how can I specify that specific remote?
[19:53] <superm1> ruben-, modify /etc/lirc/lircd.conf to point the include at that
[19:53] <ruben-> superm1: Just done that
[19:53] <ruben-> IRW displays the correct buttons, but mythtv does not recognize it
[19:54] <superm1> ruben-, rerun mythbuntu-lirc-generator then
[19:54] <superm1> and it will make bindings for myth
[19:54] <ruben-> When I press my video button on my remote it says: "000... 00 Videos medion"
[19:55] <MythbuntuGuest45> Mythbuntu locks up on desktop manager when booting up.
[19:55] <ruben-> in MythTV when I then press edit keys, it just says  "Waiting for key press" when I press the video button :s
[19:55] <ruben-> superm1: any idea?
[19:56] <superm1> ruben-, have you restarted mythfrontend since you ran the lirc generator?
[19:56] <ruben-> superm1: yes
[19:56] <superm1> it reads the input on startup
[19:56] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest45, did you turn on the xfce splash?  heard it can cause problems
[19:56] <superm1> ruben-, okay then double check in ~/.lirc/mythtv to make sure the video button is actually mapped
[19:56] <ruben-> but "cat ~/.lirc/mythtv|grep -i video" gives nothing..
[19:56] <superm1> yeah sometimes some buttons dont map out well generically
[19:57] <ruben-> Should I just add it?
[19:57] <superm1> ruben-, yeah that's probably your best bet
[19:57] <superm1> just make sure you get the syntax right when you do
[19:57] <ruben-> so in "button = " I just add "button = Videos" and in config "config = Videos" ?
[19:59] <ruben-> superm1: Should I rerun something after changing the ~/.lirc/mythtv ?
[20:01] <ruben-> omg
[20:01]  * ruben- hugs superm1
[20:04] <superm1> works? :)
[20:04] <ruben-> yea :)
[20:04] <ruben-> girlfriend'll love this
[20:04] <ruben-> now she has her own mediacenter-laptop with remote control :p
[20:05] <superm1> ruben-, so now if you want to go above and beyond let me point you how to write a patch to fix this...
[20:05] <superm1> ruben-, when you get a patch for it written, we can have it in 9.04
[20:05] <ruben-> superm1: Let me know if I can help.. :)
[20:06] <superm1> ruben-, well so how much of an understanding do you have about debian binary and source packages?
[20:06] <superm1> ruben-, if not much, that's not a problem, I can help you come up with a patch just working on the already installed files
[21:23] <Mostr> hi gang. anyone one with experience with an irblaster on a serial port?
[22:48] <Mostr> hi gang. anyone one with experience with an irblaster on a serial port?
[22:53] <msaul>  can anyone help me when I can't use LP/EP/SP when using mytharchive onto a single layer DVD?
[22:53] <msaul>  I can burn the DVD when I select "Don't Re-encode', but ffmpeg errors when I select EP/LP/SP...
[22:53] <msaul>  I'm using Mythbuntu 8.10 (Intrepid)
[22:53] <msaul> I have tried most documentation, but at a loss what to do next... I would like to be able to use EP/LP to extend the capacity of my single layer DVD, and yet still be able to use front-end for mytharhive (i.e. not issue command line...)
[23:28] <Mostr> hi gang. anyone one with experience with an irblaster on a serial port?


[00:01] <demonspork> guhcampos, I had that issue with a hardware raid recently and it turns out I just needed to wait
[00:01] <guhcampos> hmmm
[00:01] <demonspork> so let it sit for a while, it seems to be doing something that takes a long time when it is at 33%
[00:01] <guhcampos> it's taking a lot long
[00:01] <guhcampos> but I'm wainting
[00:01] <demonspork> yeah, it stauyed there for 45+ minutes
[00:01] <guhcampos> let's see how long it will make me wait
[00:01] <guhcampos> oh god
[00:02] <demonspork> of course I was formatting a 660GB partition on a 6 drive RAID 5
[00:07] <demonspork> do any of you know how to add IP addresses without dropping all current connections on the already configured IP? I have 4 I need to add on top of the 1 that is currently configured and I would prefer that the 30 some connections that are active on the current IP do not get dropped
[00:47] <SpamapS> demonspork: just running 'ifup eth0' should add any missing IPs from the interfaces configuration
[00:54] <smoser> hggdh, i've seen that before, but i'm not sure where it comes from.
[00:54] <smoser> did you try more than once?
[01:05] <hggdh> smoser: no, I did not. Will try it again
[01:06] <hggdh> Daviey: so far 1400 instances started, 1350 success, 9 failed. So far, so good.
[01:07] <smoser> hggdh, wow. thats great.
[01:08] <hggdh> smoser: it is... one wonders if *this* time, *this* time...
[01:09] <smoser> :)
[01:09] <smoser> let me know about trying that euca-bundle again
[01:09] <smoser> i just can't imagine what does it, but i have seen it before, and swear that its random
[01:12] <hggdh> will do
[01:35] <smoser> hggdh, please update bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/euca2ools/+bug/509562
[01:35] <smoser> with an indication that you saw it, and whether or not it goes away
[01:35] <smoser> i'll poke at it tomorrow if it is reproducibl
[01:37] <smoser> i know what it is
[01:37] <smoser> i think that this code : iv = (hex(BN.rand(16 * 8))[2:34]).replace('L', 'c')
[01:38] <smoser> is not guaranteed to be consumable by unhexlify
[01:46] <smoser> hggdh, i was right. bug updated. you can run that again, and > 99% you'll have success
[02:04] <arrrghhh> so i'm having samba issues.  my win7 laptop will randomly ask for a password when trying to get to the share, but my girlfriend's win7 laptop never does.  i'd prefer to not require a password to get into samba, assuming they're on my LAN.  I don't think samba is even accessible over the WAN, so I don't really see the need of putting a password on the share.
[02:07] <hggdh> Daviey: 2,000 instances run, .986 success rate!
[02:08] <hggdh> Daviey: will start a second run.
[02:19] <talcite> hey guys. I'm having a problem with snmpd where the agent isn't detecting any incoming snmp requests. I'm certain it's not the firewall interfereing
[02:19] <talcite> interfering*
[02:19] <talcite> atleast, iptables. could it be comething else? Does snmp do anything weird with portmapper or something?
[02:20] <arrrghhh> can you snmpwalk the localhost?
[02:21] <talcite> arrrghhh: nope, that's what I'm using to test, along with scli
[02:21] <talcite> snmpd's logs don't even show that something's connecting, whereas with scli from localhost, it shows up in the log
[02:21] <talcite> however, it's not the firewall, since I have a rule letting it through, and when I take it out, the dropped packet messages show up in the logs
[02:22] <arrrghhh> so wait
[02:22] <talcite> and of course, when I put the rule back into the firewall, there aren't any dropped packet messages
[02:22] <arrrghhh> you can't snmpwalk the local machine?
[02:22] <arrrghhh> i think you should be able to do that...
[02:22] <talcite> oh the local machine? yes I can
[02:22] <arrrghhh> lol ok.
[02:22] <talcite> sorry, I misread that
[02:22] <arrrghhh> just making sure snmp works :P
[02:23] <arrrghhh> and are you on a LAN?
[02:23] <arrrghhh> or are you doing this over the internet?
[02:23] <hggdh> Daviey: \o/ 2,000 instances submitted, 1.971 successes! yay!
[02:23] <talcite> a university LAN, yes
[02:23] <talcite> I've had the proper ports opened, and my firewall test seems to confirm that there's no dropped packets
[02:23] <talcite> dropped packets in transit by an upstream switch I should say
[02:24] <arrrghhh> hrm
[02:24] <arrrghhh> have you nmapped it?
[02:24] <talcite> yes, the port doesn't show up as open
[02:24] <talcite> which is a bit strange
[02:25] <arrrghhh> are you using ufw
[02:25] <arrrghhh> or iptables
[02:25] <talcite> firehol
[02:25] <arrrghhh> on the ubuntu server?
[02:26] <talcite> It doesn't work even if I shutdown firehol
[02:26] <talcite> yes
[02:26] <talcite> both machines are running ubuntu server
[02:26] <talcite> 10.04
[02:27] <arrrghhh> huh never heard of firehol.
[02:27] <arrrghhh> is it another front-end for iptables...?
[02:28] <talcite> it's pretty handy.
[02:28] <talcite> Yes it is
[02:28] <talcite> it's more or less cross-distro as well, meaning you don't need to learn more than 1 firewall syntax to administer mixed environments.
[02:28] <arrrghhh> huh
[02:28] <arrrghhh> cool
[02:29] <arrrghhh> but if you can't nmap the port, it's probably not open on either a) the firewall on your machine or b) the firewall in your network.
[02:30] <talcite> actually I tested it from another machine on the same switch (which means it doesn't enter the university network), and it's still no good.
[02:30] <talcite> one sec, I'm going to nmap it again with different options
[02:30] <talcite> there's several ports opened and it didn't pick them all up
[02:30] <arrrghhh> well
[02:30] <arrrghhh> if you couldn't do it on the same switch...
[02:30] <arrrghhh> then you've gotta have sometihng wrong in firehol.
[02:31] <arrrghhh> i'm assuming you can still poll iptables
[02:31] <arrrghhh> i think it's iptables -L
[02:31] <talcite> I stopped it completely (unloaded all the rules from iptables) and it's still not working
[02:31] <talcite> OH!
[02:31] <talcite> damnit I bet you snmpd binded to the wrong interface
[02:31] <talcite> There's multiple on these machines
[02:31] <arrrghhh> lol
[02:31] <arrrghhh> that would do it too
[03:34] <pyrophelia> is there a "safe" way to shut a system down that is currently doing a raid rebuild?  It takes ~4-5 days to resync this raid I don't want to loose my current progress
[04:47] <hggdh> Daviey: second test is at 1,500 instances run, 10 failures. Looks good, will find how it ended tomorrow morning
[04:48] <hggdh> Daviey: in fact, it has *never* been so good :-)
[05:01] <_Techie_> when connecting to the internet via a 56k dial up modem, what is the interface name for the connection?
[05:33] <computerwiz_222> Hello, I'm having difficulty setting up a software raid1. I have an advanced format drive from Western Digital which uses 4kb sectors rather than the usual 512. Has anyone had any experience with this?
[08:33] <netritious> is there are package available to tell me which Ubuntu mirror is the fastest from my location?
[08:36] <Daviey> netritious, There is one for the desktop, but i don't think we have this on the server :(
[08:36] <Daviey> (and TBH, the desktop one is based on ping time, rather than speed)
[08:36] <Daviey> iirc
[08:38] <netritious> Daviey: thanks. Was about to try and work out one with PHP or python but wanted to make sure something wasn't already out there.
[08:41] <Daviey> netritious, Sounds awesome... make sure you share it with us :)
[08:41] <netritious> Daviey: Of course :)
[08:41] <Daviey> netritious, I would suggest python... it could even be in the Natty :)
[08:42] <Daviey> netritious, writing in PHP means we need depend on that... python is already installed.
[08:42] <Daviey> so python++
[08:44] <netritious> Daviey: I considered that..the dependency thing
[08:45] <netritious> BUT i'm not a python coder :)
[08:45] <Daviey> netritious, well do what is best for you :)...  Learning python could be fun :)
[08:46] <netritious> Daviey: I completely agree
[08:46] <netritious> i'm taking a stab at it with python first
[08:48] <Daviey> netritious, awesome!
[10:52] <maedox> Hi guys, one (maybe not so easy) question: I have one server that is a SSH gateway for all the other server from WAN. I have disabled all sudo access and set a very strong root passwd. I want a script to run if someone gains root. Right now I have it in ~root/.bashrc. Any thoughts on that?
[10:53] <maedox> what the script does is email me some info about the login, `last` etc.
[11:36] <Daviey> maedox, a pam script might be better
[11:39] <maedox> Daviey, thanks for the tip, I'll look into that.
[11:40] <Daviey> maedox, cool... would love to hear how you get on.
[13:02] <ztripez> i have a server with 2 nics.. they show up in lspci but when i do a /etc/init.d/networking restart it say that eth0 and eth1 cant be found...
[13:02] <maedox> ztripez, they might not be named eth0 and eth1.
[13:03] <ztripez> maedox,  where can i found the name of them?
[13:05] <maedox> they are set in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules here, your filename may be different.
[13:07] <ztripez> maedox,  ok since i switched network cards the addressing is wrong i guess?
[13:07] <maedox> yes that could happen
[13:08] <ztripez> maedox, any easy way to restet or do i have to du it manualy?
[13:10] <maedox> I think you can change the names in that file and then do sudo service udev restart and then restart networking.
[13:18] <ztripez> maedox, ok i got one of them to work (was assigned to eth2) but the other one doesn't work
[13:18] <ztripez>  dmesg | grep eth
[13:18] <ztripez> [    0.992214] 0000:00:19.0: eth1: (PCI Express:2.5GB/s:Width x1) 00:1d:09:84:59:1f
[13:18] <ztripez> [    0.992217] 0000:00:19.0: eth1: Intel(R) PRO/10/100 Network Connection
[13:18] <ztripez> [    0.992236] 0000:00:19.0: eth1: MAC: 7, PHY: 7, PBA No: ffffff-0ff
[13:18] <ztripez> [    8.894663] udev: renamed network interface eth0 to eth2
[13:18] <ztripez> so it finds eth1 but..
[13:19] <maedox> is the mac address correct in the udev file?
[13:19] <ztripez> maedox, how do i get the mac adress?
[13:25] <maedox> good question, I honestly can't remember right now. give me a minute.
[13:26] <ztripez> hm.. when i do a ifconfig -a i get eth2 and eth1_rename
[13:27] <maedox> oh yeah, doesn't the mac address get listed on ifconfig?
[13:27] <ztripez> dooh, yes it does
[13:27] <maedox> as HWaddr
[13:27] <maedox> :)
[13:29] <Martens1984> Doh, can someone tell me how I can enter #ubuntu
[13:30] <maedox>  /join #ubuntu doesn't work?
[13:30] <ztripez> maedox, got it to work now, thanks just had do edit the udev rules and restart ;)
[13:30] <maedox> ztripez, great :)
[13:30] <maedox> ztripez, it's probably some service that needs restarting, but a reboot solves it alright :P
[13:30] <Martens1984> maedox: Nah, it tells me: #ubuntu Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[13:31] <maedox> Martens1984, aha, you probably need to register your nick with NickServ.
[13:34] <Martens1984> maedox: I thought I did, I get this ubuntu/unregged server witch asks me a question, if I anser it, I should be able to join #ubuntu, but no...
[13:38] <ztripez> trying to put up a UEC.. got it controlers installed.. both nics working eth0 as public and eth1 as private.. but don't i have to configure the dhcp server to lease ip's to the private network?
[13:39] <maedox> Martens1984, did you do /msg NickServ identify password ?
[13:40] <Martens1984> maedox: I forgot to ferify... :(
[13:41] <Martens1984> I gues I can post my prob here aswell...
[13:41] <Martens1984> If I ping to <servername> my ubuntu tries to reach e.g. <IP_ADDRESS> instead of <IP_ADDRESS>, what could be wrong?
[13:42] <maedox> what does host <servername> give you?
[13:42] <Martens1984> both
[13:43] <maedox> ok, then that's why. I'm not sure how it selects which one to ping.
[13:43] <Martens1984> thats cuz I entered <IP_ADDRESS> in the hostfile
[13:43] <Martens1984> I gues
[13:44] <Martens1984> but how can I remove the wrong IP?
[13:44] <maedox> that's weird, it should use the one in your hosts file.
[13:44] <maedox> you have to edit the DNS server config.
[13:45] <Martens1984> the DNS server gives only the right Ip...  I'm not sure what's up.
[13:51] <Martens1984> hah... it throws out both ip's
[13:52] <maedox> then there is something up with the DNS
[13:52] <maedox> what's the output of the query?
[13:53] <Martens1984> Name: <servername>
[13:53] <Martens1984> Address: <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:53] <Martens1984> Name: <servername>
[13:53] <Martens1984> Address: <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:54] <maedox> then there must be two A records with same servername and different IP-addresses in the DNS.
 being servername.domain.name
[13:54] <maedox> or the DNS is doing some strange stuff :)
[13:55] <Martens1984> if I use nslookup from another pc, it only gives the right address
[13:56] <maedox> right, you mentioned that. very weird indeed.
[13:57] <maedox> there should not be any caching of dns by default in ubuntu, but that's the only thing I can think of.
[13:58] <Martens1984> it runs a DHCP server... but so does the server I try to reach, this server did not lease any IP
[14:01] <maedox> I'm out of ideas. Maybe try rebooting or at least service networking restart.
[14:03] <sCOTTo> hey guys, I am setting up a ubuntu server to serve Virtual servers on inside an office. One VS will be a windows server. I have a machine with 2 x 1 TB SataII drives. Should I be striping these or Mirroring them or keeping them as two ???
[14:04] <au> I would mirror them for backup reasons
[14:04] <sCOTTo> How does that help for backup? would it not be better to have daily backups running ?
[14:04] <maedox> sCOTTo, yeah, mirroring is the way to go if they need to be up all the time.
[14:04] <sCOTTo> or does the mirror allow for Redundancy ?
[14:04] <Martens1984> tru, but mirroring... wel you just figured it out
[14:05] <maedox> sCOTTo, backups mean you have to reinstall the backup. RAID 1 will let you change one disk while the other works. Assuming they are hot-swap disks/controller.
[14:05] <sCOTTo> ok so the next question... can I use SOFTWARE within Ubuntu to set up the mirror or do I need a Sata Raid Card setup ?
[14:05] <Martens1984> If one crashes, you simply replace it and continu servering
[14:05] <sCOTTo> ok sweet - sold on mirror.
[14:05] <hggdh> Daviey: second run: 2,003 instances submitted, 1,975 successes
[14:05] <sCOTTo> lol
[14:06] <Martens1984> A hardware raid is preferable
[14:06] <sCOTTo> I dont have the raid card or ability on the MB thats all :(
[14:06] <sCOTTo> its a AMD 64-but MB
[14:06] <maedox> sCOTTo, just make sure that hot-swap is possible. ;)
[14:06] <sCOTTo> I do think so...
[14:06] <sCOTTo> I should GG the mb huh lol
[14:07] <maedox> sCOTTo, If a small down-time is acceptable you can shutdown, change disk and reboot.
[14:07] <sCOTTo> yeah a small downtime should not be a problem...
[14:07] <sCOTTo> should I buy a stack of the same HDDs so I ahve back up drives ??
[14:07] <Daviey> hggdh, I'm pretty happy with those stats as stress testing goes :)
[14:08] <sCOTTo> hmmm it has RAID 0,1 whats that ?
[14:09] <maedox> sCOTTo, 0,1 just means it can do RAID 0 or RAID 1. RAID 0 being striping (data divided between disks) and RAID 1 being mirroring.
[14:09] <Martens1984> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redundant_Array_of_Independent_Disks#RAID-0 ;)
[14:10] <sCOTTo> ok so the MB can Mirror then yes ?
[14:10] <maedox> yes
[14:10] <sCOTTo> :D I guess thats a good thing ;) now I gotta figure out HOW
[14:10] <sCOTTo> lol
[14:10] <maedox> yes, that it the question. there is probably a hotkey for configuring it when you boot up your machine.
[14:10] <Martens1984> lol... reboot and check BIOS startup carefully.... you should enter a combination of keys to enter the raid setup
[14:11] <Martens1984> ... ore there should be a driver to acces the raid setup within Windows... in ubuntu I'm not sure
[14:11] <sCOTTo> found the Manual ;)
[14:11] <sCOTTo> RTFM :D
[14:11] <Martens1984> GL & HF
[14:12] <sCOTTo> GL & HF ???
[14:12] <sCOTTo> good luck
[14:12] <sCOTTo> hace fun
[14:12] <sCOTTo> ok
[14:12] <Martens1984> Good Luck & Have Fun
[14:12] <sCOTTo> thanks :D
[14:12] <sCOTTo> hehehe
[14:12] <maedox> :D
[14:12] <sCOTTo> I am doing this one for one of the most HATED Politicians in Australia ;)
[14:12] <sCOTTo> hehehe
[14:12] <sCOTTo> i LURVE ppl who are politically incorrect :D
[14:12] <maedox> make sure to put in a remote killswitch then :P
[14:12] <sCOTTo> hehehe nah - I like him :D
[14:13] <sCOTTo> lol how do I make a remote killswitch btw ;)
[14:13] <Martens1984> 20 pounds of TNT next to the server...
[14:13] <Martens1984> or C4
[14:13] <sCOTTo> that would work
[14:13] <sCOTTo> or... INSTALL WINDOWS :D
[14:13] <sCOTTo> tee hee hee
[14:14] <Martens1984> Windows, and your switch in instantly killed
[14:14] <sCOTTo> thats why I am VIRTUALISING the windows server they want to run hehehe
[14:14] <sCOTTo> its a LOT safer :D
[14:15] <Martens1984> so... thats what's going wrong here... I got w2k3-server and am running Ubuntu virtualy
[14:15] <sCOTTo> oh dear...
[14:15] <sCOTTo> thats BLASPHEMY!
[14:16] <Martens1984> I know... but it's out of my hands
[14:16] <sCOTTo> if you have the KB... then it aint ;)
[14:16] <sCOTTo> hehehe
[14:17] <sCOTTo> bbs
[14:19] <Martens1984> DOH, my unconfigurable DNS-server is f****d up
[14:20] <sCOTTo> unconfigurable ?
[14:20] <Martens1984> Yeah... it's inside the router
[14:20] <sCOTTo> hmm
[14:20] <sCOTTo> upgrade the firmware
[14:20] <sCOTTo> ;)
[14:20] <Martens1984> modem/router ADSL internet thing
[14:21] <sCOTTo> just reboot it. that normally clears it
[14:21] <Martens1984> yeah... gonna try that now
[14:25] <Martens1984> how do I kill a zombie process
[14:25] <au> ps x
[14:25] <au> kill process
[14:25] <au> 23:25 < au> ps x
[14:25] <au> 23:25 < au> kill process
[14:39] <maedox> you can't kill a zombie. it's already dead.
[14:39] <maedox> no pun intended :)
[15:06] <Ethos> hi guys, I've installed fail2ban but I'm receiving "Restarting authentication failure monitor fail2ban                           start-stop-daemon: Unable to set gid to 0"
[15:06] <Ethos> Any ideas?
[15:12] <hurra> when will there be a kernel update for 10.04?
[15:23] <smoser> kirkland, ping
[15:23] <smoser> or maybe daviey or ttx know.
[15:23] <smoser> how is /etc/motd.d/* executed on login ?
[15:24] <ttx> smoser: ask and you shall find
[15:24] <smoser> i can't trace this.
[15:24] <ttx> I think it's through pam-motd
[15:24] <smoser> i suspect pam_motd.so, but nothing says that it should update that.
[15:24] <smoser> yeah
[15:26]  * ttx looks
[15:26] <smoser> so something updates /etc/motd, and i can't find what
[15:26] <smoser> (it does so by runparts of /etc/update-motd.d)
[15:27] <Daviey> and people don't see the point of shipping the server guide on the install....
[15:27] <Daviey> smoser, $ w3m /usr/share/ubuntu-serverguide/html/C/pam_motd.html
[15:28] <ttx> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/maverick/man8/pam_motd.8.html sounds a bit out of date
[15:30] <smoser> so pam runs (as root) stuff in /etc/update-motd.d on *every* login ?
[15:31] <Daviey> erm
[15:31] <Daviey> don't think it does
[15:33] <smoser> not root. you're right.
[15:34] <Daviey> hmm
[15:34] <smoser> as root
[15:34] <smoser> verified
[15:35] <Daviey> dave@bootie:~$ cat /etc/update-motd.d/100-date
[15:35] <Daviey> #!/bin/sh
[15:35] <Daviey> echo "*** test"
[15:35] <Daviey> date
[15:35] <Daviey> whoami
[15:35] <Ethos> any of you chaps using fail2ban?
[15:35] <Daviey> *** test
[15:35] <Daviey> Fri Sep 17 15:32:12 BST 2010
[15:35] <Daviey> root
[15:35] <mdeslaur> yes, it's in a ubuntu-specific patch, guys
[15:35] <Daviey> Ethos, yes
[15:35] <Ethos> Finding it good? :)
[15:36] <smoser> yeah. daviey, i just did the same thing.
[15:36] <smoser> as root, and every time.
[15:36] <Daviey> Ethos, functional :)... I actually use that and Denyhosts depending what the server is, what i'm in the mood for, if it's raining or sunny  :)
[15:36] <Ethos> heh
[15:36] <Daviey> smoser, heh
[15:36] <Ethos> Cool, I've just thought about security on my linode and realised I was a bit slack with it
[15:38] <maedox> There is also sshd-autoban, which can add IP-addresses to either hosts.deny or iptables.
[15:39] <thafreak> Ethos: I just switched to fail2ban from denyhosts
[15:39] <ttx> SpamapS: ping
[15:40] <thafreak> It seems to use a constant ammount of ram, where denyhosts slowly used more
[15:40] <thafreak> I was wary of using something that messed with iptables at first, but it runs well
[15:43] <Ethos> interesting :)
[15:43] <Ethos> I'll check out the alternatives too
[16:17] <MTecknology> How do I reload an apparmor profile?
[16:18] <MTecknology> found it
[16:52] <SpamapS> ttx: pong, sup?
[16:53] <ttx> SpamapS: dude!
[16:53] <ttx> SpamapS: was wondering if you wanted to try to sneak a fix for bug 624361 before release. If yes, i'll target it against Maverick.
[16:53] <ttx> SpamapS: but then another bug surfaced...
[16:53] <ttx> that might require even more of your attention...
[16:53] <ttx> bug 641384
[16:54] <ttx> apparently we are short of a few MIRs there
[16:54] <SpamapS> ttx: No, that one has no real easy solution w/ upstart. :(
[16:54] <ttx> SpamapS: I thought so.
[16:54] <ttx> Will keep it out of scope for the moment then.
[16:54] <ttx> SpamapS: could you debunk bug 641384 ?
[16:54] <SpamapS> ttx: I think long term the answer is going to be to add a "verify" capability to upstart jobs
[16:55] <SpamapS> ttx: weird, don't they see the LP bug numbers *in the commit logs* ?
[16:55] <ttx> SpamapS: "see" ?
[16:56] <ttx> SpamapS: "they" ?
[16:56] <ttx> SpamapS: "weird" ?
[16:56] <ttx> SpamapS: "numbers" ?
[16:56] <ttx> SpamapS: "logs" ?
[16:56] <ttx> SpamapS: ?
[16:57]  * ttx is in a playful mood
[16:57]  * SpamapS is in an "annoyed with AT&T mood"
[16:58] <ttx> SpamapS: I'm not sure I got your last question rigth
[16:59] <ttx> SpamapS: do you mean "shouldn't LP autoclose bugs based on LP bug numbers in debian changelogs" ?
[16:59] <SpamapS> oo AT&T is here
[16:59]  * ttx hands SpamapS a mask
[17:00] <SpamapS> ttx: I told you I'm not going to your weird party in the countryside
[17:02] <SpamapS> actually, the bug #'s aren't in the commit logs
[17:02] <SpamapS> just the blueprint names
[17:02] <SpamapS> we really do need to fix the seed management process
[17:02] <zul> i think ttx started a bit early this weekend
[17:02] <ttx> I'm already 2 minute IN my weekend.
[17:02] <ttx> SpamapS: assigned.
[17:03] <SpamapS> Comment added w/ pointers to the MIR's
[17:05] <ttx> SpamapS: I think doko's point is that the dependencies were not MIRed
[17:07] <SpamapS> ttx: err, all of those are from the libmemcached source package
[17:09] <ttx> SpamapS: just a sec
[17:15] <ttx> SpamapS: you need a MIR filed for each and every dependency
[17:16] <SpamapS> ttx: MIR's are by source package. Yes?
[17:16] <ttx> yes
[17:16] <ttx> ah, you mean all thise are binaries from libmemcached ?
[17:16]  * ttx looks with more attention
[17:16] <SpamapS> http://paste.ubuntu.com/495382/
[17:17] <SpamapS> all from libmemcached source
[17:18] <SpamapS> Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 7.0.50), perl, memcached (>= 1.4.1), automake (>= 1.10), autoconf, libtool
[17:18] <SpamapS> All of those are covered..
[17:18] <SpamapS> so .. yeah I think Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 6), libevent-dev, quilt (>= 0.46-7)
[17:18] <SpamapS> So yeah, I think we're all good
[17:20] <ttx> they must have missed promotion.
[17:20] <ttx> SpamapS: feel free to ping some MIR team member about that.
[17:22] <SpamapS> Honestly, the whole MIR process and promotion issue for non-dependencies is really confusing.
[17:37] <SpamapS> ttx: Aren't you supposed to be enjoying your friday evening by now?
[18:22] <RoyK> http://simnet.is/freebsd/stopping_named.txt
[18:23]  * cloakable grins
[19:15] <blackxored> hi guys, i have a openvpn setup which is supposedly pushing dns information pointing to itself since I have dnsmasq installed on that server, but i'm somehow still using my company's dns, i want to know why and how to solve this???
[19:16] <Mahara> I'm trying to install Nginx following the instructions from http://wiki.nginx.org/NginxInstall , after I refresh the repos and run apt-get install nginx it gets the stable version instead of the ppa version why ? is the ppa broken or what?
[19:17] <Mahara> the stable version from the standard repos not that ppa
[19:20] <beawesomeinstead> PLEASE PLEASE HELP ME MY COWORKERS GOT ME DRUNK. how to fix this?/??? THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'M DRUNK??
[19:21] <Mahara> nvm I need some sleep :D I need to replace /stable with /development
[19:21] <Daviey> beawesomeinstead, Really, Really not appropriate for here.
[19:21] <beawesomeinstead> i know know know\
[19:21] <beawesomeinstead> maybve
[19:21] <Daviey> smoser, awesome! bug #509562
[19:22] <blackxored> i have a openvpn setup which is supposedly pushing dns information pointing to itself since I have dnsmasq installed on that server, but i'm somehow still using my company's dns, i want to know why and how to solve this???
[19:22] <smoser> yeah. once i took 10 minutes to actually look at it, it was obvious that only 1 thing could really be causing the failure.
[19:24] <Daviey> smoser, now you mention it.... replace('L', 'c') <-- LOL :)
[19:24] <Daviey> smoser, I guess that should have jumped out at us sooner :)
[19:25] <smoser> well, the 'L' being replaced is the last letter of 0xABCDEF....GBL
[19:25] <smoser> (ie, 'Long')
[19:25] <smoser> and they "fixed" that issue that they were no doubt seeing 1 in 10 times or so by adding the replace
[19:25] <Daviey> :)
[19:25] <smoser> (it just bought them an extra digit)
[19:25] <Daviey> smoser, Are you planning to SRU that?
[19:26] <smoser> well, we'll see if they let it into maverick
[19:26] <smoser> i uploaded.
[19:26] <Daviey> i saw it in the queue... i would imagine that will get through
[19:28] <smoser> i guess the replace would buy make it 16x less likely to occur
[19:28] <smoser> right?
[19:32] <RoyK> what sort of backup software do you guys (or girls) use?
[19:34] <Daviey> smoser, well... it seems saner than it is now...
[19:34] <incidence> RoyK: Script called rsync-backup =)
[19:34] <Mahara> RoyK, Bacula ( http://www.bacula.org/en ) , KLEO (http://www.kleobackup.net/), RedoBackup ( http://redobackup.org/ )
[19:34] <smoser> well, now i think it should never fail
[19:34] <Daviey> smoser, Trying your patch now :)
[19:35] <smoser> but without their replace, i think it was probably failing like 1/10 or something
[19:35] <smoser> with replace it goes to 1/160 or so
[19:36] <incidence> Can I get more than 1 IPv6 address from tunnelbroker? Confused with those.
[19:36] <Daviey> smoser, i'll try your test bash script shortly
[19:36] <RoyK> Mahara: I guess I'll do some more testing on Bacula...
[19:37] <smoser> yeah, i even uploaded an image (only once) and ran it to make sure that there was no hidden issue with what i was doing.
[19:38] <Daviey> smoser, It looks very logical... I'll test it here.. update the bug report... Then it seems even more likely it'll get through... But tbh, it looks good as it is :)
[19:51] <aubre> how can I change the IP address on a network interface ?
[19:52] <pmatulis> aubre: with the 'ip' command
[19:52] <aubre> thanks!
[19:52] <aubre> I know - I was just showing the power of the irc channel and you helped
[19:52] <SpamapS> pmatulis: thats not permanent tho
[19:52] <SpamapS> aubre: you probably want to change it permanently yes?
[19:52] <aubre> yes
[19:53] <SpamapS> aubre: if its static, it should be defined in /etc/network/interfaces
[19:53] <aubre> thanks !
[19:53]  * pmatulis is singing the blues
[20:16] <ruben23>  i have a full HDD, now i have an extra HDD can i add it up so i can copy the files there for backup..? any solutions
[21:08] <ttx> SpamapS: yes, I am.
[21:24] <smoser> ttx, go to bed
[21:45] <_Techie_> anybody here using ubuntu-server setup as their router with a 100mb network
[21:46] <Patrickdk> techie, no, but I am with gigabit
[21:46] <_Techie_> hrmm
[21:46] <_Techie_> can i get you to get me some numbers
[21:46] <Patrickdk> what?
[21:47] <_Techie_> i need you to use traceroute on your sever to anywhere and get me the hop time between server and modem
[21:47] <Patrickdk> ok
[21:47] <Patrickdk> dunno why 100mbit is required for that though :)
[21:47] <_Techie_> well im usin 100mbit
[21:48] <Patrickdk> well, you better hurry up and tell me, or I will have to leave :)
[21:48] <_Techie_> so i wanted to try keep it as close to my network as possible
[21:48] <_Techie_> but a gigabit readout wl do
[21:48] <Patrickdk> wait, you want to compare my hop times, from server to modem to your server to modem?
[21:48] <_Techie_> yes
[21:48] <Patrickdk> cause I have no modem
[21:48] <Patrickdk> I'm on fiber
[21:49] <_Techie_> oh
[21:49] <Patrickdk> directly plugged into my server
[21:49] <_Techie_> damnit
[21:49] <_Techie_> stupid NZ internet
[21:49] <_Techie_> were still on ADSL
[21:49] <Patrickdk> cable modem? or dsl?
[21:49] <Patrickdk> hmm
[21:49] <_Techie_> nto een ADSL2+
[21:49] <_Techie_> even*
[21:49] <Patrickdk> dunno much about dsl, well, I know about it, but don't use it :)
[21:49] <_Techie_> oh well
[21:49] <_Techie_> thanks for your time anyway
[21:49] <Patrickdk> but cable, adds 10-30ms of delay
[21:50] <Patrickdk> pastebin your results
[21:52] <_Techie_> Patrickdk: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/vQ56zhS0   from a mac laptop inside my network conected to wireless
[21:52] <Patrickdk> hmm, alittle high, but that depends on your dsl people
[21:53] <_Techie_> immore interested in my LAN rather than my WAN atm
[21:53] <Patrickdk> the 2.3ms?
[21:53] <_Techie_> yeah
[21:53] <_Techie_> #1 is laptop to roter, #2 is router to modem
[21:54] <Patrickdk> what is laptop to router? wifi?
[21:54] <Patrickdk> that would be the issue there :)
[21:54] <_Techie_> yes
[21:54] <Patrickdk> ya, wifi is normally +2ms
[21:54] <Patrickdk> 802.11g?
[21:55] <_Techie_> yep
[21:55] <Patrickdk> 54mbit max, so 22mbit usable
[21:57] <_Techie_> so you dont think that my server s taking an excess amont of time to route packets?
[22:06] <IamReck> Hi I am looking for help getting 10.04 to syslog to Centos 5.5.
[22:07] <guntbert> IamReck: you will have to debug that on the centOS side I'm afraid, as syslog requires no acknowledgement from the syslog server ( if I remember correctly )
[22:08] <IamReck> Question for the Ubuntu one, though, if I edit the /etc/syslog.conf, will those settings be obeyed by rsyslog/
[22:08] <IamReck> ?
[22:08] <RoyK> IamReck: just log to @your.centos.box
[22:09] <IamReck> RoyK, that's what I'm doing.
[22:09] <RoyK> obviously the centos box will need to listen to 514/udp
[22:09] <IamReck> syslog is listening.
[22:12] <Four2zero> i did a mistake on a command, and removed a initrd.image from ubuntu-server by mistake how can i retrieve this file back ?
[22:12] <RoyK> IamReck: that should be all iirc
[22:13] <RoyK> IamReck: can you try to sniff outgoing udp traffic from the ubuntu box?
[22:14] <Four2zero> this is the command i accidently used sudo rm -rf /initrd.img
[22:14] <Four2zero> is there any way to retrieve this file back ?
[22:14] <guntbert> Four2zero: I don't think you can -- so learn to be *very* cautious when working with root rights
[22:15] <nakhlawi> Four2zero: http://www.debian-administration.org/article/293/How_Do_I_Make_an_initrd_image
[22:15] <Four2zero> how important is /initrd.img ?
[22:15] <guntbert> Four2zero: very, see ^^
[22:16] <Four2zero> nakinak im showing that link is dead on my end.
[22:16] <maswan> Four2zero: you won't be able to boot. dpkg-reconfigure on the kernel package should fix it up
[22:16] <Four2zero> unable to connect
[22:16] <RoyK> Four2zero: if the system is up and running, just reinstall the kernel package of choice
[22:16] <RoyK> oh
[22:16] <RoyK> then you're fscked
[22:17] <Four2zero> okay.
[22:17] <RoyK> Four2zero: the initrd contains all loadable modules for the kernel, and in most distros, that also includes the sata/ata/scsi/whatever drivers, and without those, the kernel can't find its drives
[22:18] <Four2zero> oh snaps....!
[22:18] <guntbert> Four2zero: why are you unable to connect?
[22:19] <Four2zero> RoyK, when i ran dpkg-reconfigure it says please specify a package to reconfigure ?
[22:19] <Four2zero> guntbert Firefox cant establish a connection to the server at www.debian-administration.org
[22:20] <Four2zero> problem loading page.
[22:20] <Four2zero> gunthber and im not using proxy
[22:21] <Four2zero> also with chrome with same issue
[22:22] <Four2zero> guntber and same with IE
[22:23] <guntbert> Four2zero: and from where do you chat?
[22:23] <Four2zero> US
[22:23] <guntbert> Four2zero: no, how do you chat/irc if you have no network connection?
[22:24] <Four2zero> guntbert oh...just specific page i cant load
[22:24] <Four2zero> internet connection is fine
[22:24] <Four2zero> hahahah...i had program running peerblock
[22:25] <Four2zero> now im able to access the page
[22:25] <guntbert> Four2zero: how is that specific page related to your problem? you should be able to reinstall the kernel as Royk suggested
[22:26] <Four2zero> that's fixed now, so anyhow im doing what he suggested.
[22:26] <guntbert> Four2zero: Good luck :-) I'm off
[22:26] <Four2zero> but im getting a /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: please specify a package to reconfigure
 Four2zero: if the system is up and running, just reinstall the kernel package of choice
[22:28] <Four2zero> yes, the system is up and still running. im googlining that info right now
[22:29] <Four2zero> so basically need to reinstall the kernel ?
[22:29] <Four2zero> correct
[22:37] <Four2zero> Is what im looking for: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158
[22:52] <Four2zero> okay i repaired it.
[23:47] <lapsusbrutus> anyone knows id chmod 644 on the /dev/mem file will crash anything?
[23:51] <RoyK> lapsusbrutus: not unless you let me into your system
[23:52] <RoyK> or any other - or you have a faulty php script - or ......


[07:00] <paddatrapper> Morning everyone
[09:13]  * Kilos waves
[17:57] <pavlushka> hey miles did you drop something?
[19:25] <inetpro> .
[23:41]  * nlsthzn peers in and expects only silence...


[14:37] <balloons> xnox, did you find the installer tests jenkins yesterday? I believe it's s-jenkins