[04:36] <thiemster> Guest39421: probably. everyone seems to nowadays
[04:36] <soreau> Guest39421: He means gtk-window-decorator or emerald as a decorator and yes, compiz will work anywhere there's an X session with working graphics drivers
[04:36] <linux_is_my_hero> mickster04: i was going for cool points, trying to do it without my web browser
[04:37] <ZykoticK9> !emerald
[04:37] <mickster04> linux_is_my_hero: you can do a wget on the ,deb file and run the deb file from cli i think
[04:37] <thiemster> linux_is_my_hero: you can use "wget *" where * is the url
[04:37] <soreau> you don't need a DE to run compiz and you can run compiz in most DE's (with the exception of gnome-shell)
[04:37] <Guest39421> xangua, i still want it to be cool, its not even THAT old. just not snappy. 2.2Ghz single core AMD, 1GB ram, nvidia something. like 128 dedicated i think. maybe less idk
[04:37] <Guest39421> soreau, thanks man
[04:37] <linux_is_my_hero> mickster04: how about java? my frost wire won't run
[04:37] <thiemster> Guest39421: I WISH I had that much ram. Only 512MB :'( but that should definitely be enough ram to run compiz
[04:38] <linux_is_my_hero> lol i have 4 gb
[04:38] <linux_is_my_hero> :-)
[04:38] <Guest39421> thiemster, haha you are running lxde you said?
[04:38] <mickster04> linux_is_my_hero: sudo apt-get install?
[04:38] <Mountain_Man> mickster I have been there (google) for 2 days now, and  was hoping to converse about it with some one of experience. I was hoping for a channel sugesstion perhaps. thanks Zykotick for the consideration.
[04:38] <thiemster> Guest39421: actually... I'm running awesome wm. BUT I really wouldn't recommend that for most people
[04:39] <_pg_> how can I get transparent panels in gnome 10.04?
[04:39] <thiemster> Guest39421: but I used to run lxde and it was really REALLY fast on my oldish computer
[04:39] <mickster04> !ot | Mountain_Man
[04:39] <ZykoticK9> Mountain_Man, actually you could try ##hardware
[04:39] <Guest39421> thiemster, why wouldnt you recommend awesome?
[04:39] <costre> !lucid | _pg_
[04:39] <xangua> _pg_: have you tried to search it in the web¿
[04:39] <_pg_> costre: how can I get transparent panels in gnome.
[04:40] <thiemster> Guest39421: I would recommend it, just not to most computer users. It gets a while to get used to, and most people don't seem to have the time (or don't want to have the time) to learn
[04:40] <Mountain_Man> zykotick9 thank you !
[04:40] <thiemster> Guest39421: plus, as someone pointed out to me yesterday on this IRC channel, it looks like it's from the late 80s or early 90s
[04:40] <_pg_> xangua:  yes, i can get the middle to be transparent but not the sides, like apps, places, system etc
[04:40] <airstrike> _pg_: right click the panel, open properties, background, solid color, etc
[04:40] <Guest39421> thiemster, thats unfortunate
[04:40] <airstrike> _pg_: oh, i hear ya
[04:40] <thiemster> Guest39421: which part? the not wanting to learn or the 80s/90s?
[04:40] <ZykoticK9> _pg_, it depends on the theme you are using
[04:41] <thiemster> Guest39421: or perhaps both :)
[04:41] <xangua> _pg_: then you are looking for transparent menus, not panel
[04:41] <Guest39421> thiemster, the 80s/90s lol
[04:41] <xangua> sear that
[04:41] <xangua> search*
[04:41] <thiemster> Guest39421: well, not being around in the late 80s, I wouldn't really know personally. But I love the interface. It's able to be used with only a keyboard
[04:41] <_pg_> xangua: well i mean i want the entire thing to be transparent. from edge to edge if you will
[04:41] <mickster04> can anyone help me get wireless working through terminal, when i do sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "labla" - it doesn't change the ssid shown when i run sudo iwconfig wlan0
[04:41] <Guest39421> thiemster, me neither, but ive seen the music videos and thats enough for me.
[04:42] <thiemster> Guest39421: haha I get what you mean
[04:42] <thiemster> bye everyone
[04:43] <ZykoticK9> _pg_, just don't use Ambiance or Radiance - and the whole panel will be transparent (other themes MAY be affected too)
[04:43] <_pg_> ZykoticK9: what is defualt in 10.04?
[04:43] <ZykoticK9> _pg_, yes
[04:43] <ZykoticK9> _pg_, ambiance or radiance
[04:43] <sp0spo> how come ubuntu does not see the partition of my usb drive? does it have to be marked as active for it to be mountable?
[04:43] <linux_is_my_hero> help
[04:43] <linux_is_my_hero> i have the java bin file but i dont know how to install it
[04:43] <ZykoticK9> _pg_, #ubuntu+1 for Lucid support!
[04:44] <_pg_> ZykoticK9: *facepalm*
[04:44] <xangua> linux_is_my_hero: you can install java from the repositories
[04:44] <linux_is_my_hero> xangua: sudo apt-get install java?
[04:45] <mickster04> linux_is_my_hero: do a tab-complete on it
[04:45] <linux_is_my_hero> what packages do i need?
[04:45] <ZykoticK9> linux_is_my_hero, sun-java6-plugin if you want the web plugin
[04:45] <xangua> linux_is_my_hero: if you want it for the browser install 'sun-java6-plugin' package
[04:46] <linux_is_my_hero> alright in eed java for the computer itself, so frostwire will actually work
[04:46] <ZykoticK9> linux_is_my_hero, sun-java6-jre should work
[04:47] <Mountain_Man> How do I get invited to a channel, I tried joining"#hardware" and was given " Cannot join #hardware (Channel is invite only).
[04:47] <linux_is_my_hero> so why doesnt my frostwire work?
[04:47] <xangua> have you already installed java linux_is_my_hero¿
[04:47] <ZykoticK9> !register > Mountain_Man
[04:47] <sp0spo> i plug in my usb drive, and then a   /dev/sdk is in the /dev directory but  /dev/sdk1 is not there... the partition, i don't understand, how can i mount it if the partition is not listed?
[04:48] <linux_is_my_hero> xangua: I've installed java like you said but when i run frostwire sudo from the terminal it gives me there errors
[04:48] <linux_is_my_hero> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-fonts
[04:48] <linux_is_my_hero> You need to upgrade to JRE 1.5.x or newer from http://www.java.com
[04:48] <linux_is_my_hero> when i run "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre" it says i already have the latest version
[04:48] <eric> does anyone know how to start bt4 in the GUI mode automaticly
[04:49] <polarsky> u mean without startx?
[04:49] <Guest31136> yes
[04:49] <ennui> i am having a hard time finding the beta version of a certain package with apt-get. is there a command to allow devel packages? or do i need to add a repo?
[04:49] <Guest31136> but automaticly
[04:49] <polarsky> add it in xinitrc or inittab or sumthing
[04:49] <polarsky> or
[04:49] <linux_is_my_hero> xangua: now i have the JRE bin file but i dont know how to install it :-(
[04:50] <polarsky> echo startx >> .bash_profile
[04:50] <polarsky> as root
[04:50] <ubutom> linux_is_my_hero, you don'T install it, you have to execute it with the jre
[04:50] <polarsky> "startx" i mean
[04:50] <ZykoticK9> linux_is_my_hero, frostwire just installed using the java from from repo for me
[04:51] <linux_is_my_hero> zykotic9: I'm gunna undo everything ive done then tell me what you did to make it work :-)
[04:51] <ZykoticK9> !tab > linux_is_my_hero
[04:52] <linux_is_my_hero> zykotic9: frostwire is gone so you're saying you did what now?
[04:52] <skrite> hey all, i am wanting to move a file to another computer over network via scp.. i can't seem to find the option that allows me to compress on the fly to speed things up
[04:52] <Travis-42> how do I kill a process (google chrome) that won't die even with "kill -s 9" ?
[04:52] <ZykoticK9> !tab > linux_is_my_hero
[04:52] <linux_is_my_hero> ZykoticK9: got it thanks :-)
[04:53] <IdleOne> Travis-42: killall chrome
[04:53] <ZykoticK9> linux_is_my_hero, could you pastebin the output of "dpkg -l | grep sun-java"
[04:53] <linux_is_my_hero> ii  sun-java6-bin                         6-15-1                                     Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 (architecture d
[04:53] <linux_is_my_hero> ii  sun-java6-fonts                       6-15-1                                     Lucida TrueType fonts (from the Sun JRE)
[04:53] <linux_is_my_hero> ii  sun-java6-jre                         6-15-1                                     Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 (architecture i
[04:53] <linux_is_my_hero> ii  sun-java6-plugin                      6-15-1                                     The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 6
[04:53] <FloodBot1> linux_is_my_hero: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:53] <Travis-42> IdleOne: that helped, down from 15 chrome processes, but still left with 5 chrome processes. any more ideas?
[04:53] <ZykoticK9> !paste > linux_is_my_hero
[04:53] <bossok> sup
[04:53] <linux_is_my_hero> ZykoticK9: I dont know how to use pastebin ive never had a need to use it
[04:54] <James806> I have a question about Ubuntu 8.04   When i start up the Linux box I have to press Ctrl D just to boot up to the system how can i fix this?????
[04:54] <ZykoticK9> linux_is_my_hero, don't paste things into the channel
[04:54] <IdleOne> traveller: ps aux | grep chrome then sudo kill PID
[04:54] <ubutom> James806, does it prompt you to run fsck manually?
[04:54] <ZykoticK9> linux_is_my_hero, do you have the frostwire-4.20.6.i586.deb file somewhere?  In your Downloads folder perhaps?
[04:55] <linux_is_my_hero> no but i can get it pretty quick
[04:55] <ZykoticK9> linux_is_my_hero, download it then
[04:55] <James806> no not that i am aware of
[04:55] <Travis-42> IdleOne: yes, I've tried that, it doesn't work
[04:55] <zeroseven0183> James806: Try running e2fsck /dev/hda_
[04:55] <patrick-1> Hey, im running dapper drake with apache2 + php5 package in mod_php mode - is it possible to update the php installation to 5.3.2 by hand?
[04:55] <linux_is_my_hero> Zykotick9: done
[04:55] <IdleOne> Travis-42: umm, log out and back in maybe.
[04:56] <epoh> lol
[04:56] <IdleOne> Travis-42: not optimal I know
[04:56] <Guest39421> dekstop background change every x minutes, is there a best way to do this? A gui and runs under all (or most) desktop environments? I googled and found like a dozen different ways
[04:56] <ZykoticK9> linux_is_my_hero, double click it from nautilus and enter your password when prompted
[04:56] <Travis-42> IdleOne: alright, I guess I'll have to do that, thanks
[04:56] <explorealex> i just installed ubuntu 9.10 on a compaq pressario notebook.. the wireless lan button is not functioning and so no internet connection.. what should i do?
[04:57] <linux_is_my_hero> ZykoticK9: its installing right now
[04:57] <justin_> Hey, I am trying to fix my X server. I think it is a problem with my  onboard graphics card. I removed the old one because it is broke. I also can't connect to the internet. Can someone help me?
[04:57] <Guest39421> explorealex, plug it into ethernet and look for proprietary hardware wireless drivers
[04:57] <linux_is_my_hero> ZykoticK9: and now it wont work. :-(
[04:57] <Mountain_Man> zykotick9 was it #ubuntu ot
[04:57] <Mountain_Man> ?
[04:57] <patrick-1> anyone?
[04:57] <ZykoticK9> Mountain_Man, ##hardware or #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:57] <explorealex>  Guest39421: any apt-get command that might work?
[04:58] <Mountain_Man> zykotick thank you for all your help! :)
[04:58] <ZykoticK9> Mountain_Man, glad to help
[04:58] <hdpb> i have downloaded the source drivers for my audio card.  where should I untar them to before running "make install"?  Does it matter?
[04:58] <Guest39421> explorealex, not that smart. lol I get all my apt commands from ZykoticK9
[04:58] <polarsky> yes hdpb
[04:58] <nsadmin> man apt-get for apt-get commands of most kinds
[04:58] <Mountain_Man> #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:58] <Guest39421> any votes for drapes?
[04:58] <polarsky> tar zxvf whatever.tar.gz
[04:58] <James806> thanks i will give that a try
[04:58] <polarsky> cd whatever
[04:58] <linux_is_my_hero> explorealex: connect via ethernet, then run system-->admin-->update manager, then when that's done, restart and open system-->admin-->hardware drivers and it should get your wifi drivers from the online repos
[04:58] <polarsky> make
[04:58] <Jeeves_Moss> hdpb, I usally have a directory off of /home/ called "installers"
[04:58] <patrick-1> Okay, i simply want to understand how php interacts with aache when using mod_php so i can upgrade myseld
[04:58] <polarsky> and than make install
[04:58] <patrick-1> Hey, im running dapper drake with apache2 + php5 package in mod_php mode - is it possible to update the php installation to 5.3.2 by hand?
[04:58] <polarsky> its way easier just using apt tho
[04:59] <explorealex>  linux_is_my_hero:thanks
[04:59] <nsadmin> patrick-1: #apache ##php
[04:59] <Flannel> patrick-1: You could, yes.  But why would you want to?  Is there something keeping you from upgrading?
[04:59] <explorealex>  Guest39421: thanks
[04:59] <blistov> Ubuntu 10.04 daily (today's build).  I can't find any way to connect ubuntuone anymore.
[04:59] <Jeeves_Moss> Flannel, hey man, long time!!
[04:59] <patrick-1> Flannel: there is no 5.3.2 package in ubuntu
[04:59] <Flannel> Howdy Jeeves_Moss
[04:59] <patrick-1> dapper
[04:59] <blistov> Anyone know where this has gone? I can get into preferences but it just says disconnected.
[04:59] <ZykoticK9> linux_is_my_hero, what doesn't work?  Mine is working fine, no Java error message.
[04:59] <maco> patrick-1: i think Flannel wanted to know why you're still sticking with dapper
[04:59] <Flannel> patrick-1: That's correct.  Is there something keeping you on Dapper?
[05:00] <nsadmin> why do you need 5.3.2?
[05:00] <patrick-1> yes for now it is.
[05:00] <Flannel> patrick-1: What is it?
[05:00] <Guest39421> does anyone know if drapes works under other DE besides Gnome?
[05:00] <patrick-1> my superior :)
[05:00] <linux_is_my_hero> Zykotick9: lemme run it from the terminal and ill PM you the error message if you dont have any objections to that.
[05:00] <patrick-1> and the customer demands 5.3.2
[05:00] <linux_is_my_hero> may i PM you?
[05:00] <ZykoticK9> blistov, #ubuntu+1 for Lucid think there is also a #ubuntuone channel
[05:00] <patrick-1> is there any way?
[05:00] <James806> are there any good training video's out there on the net were a newbie like myself could learn Linux?
[05:00] <James806> free
[05:00] <polarsky> everywhere.
[05:00] <polarsky> google is ur friend
[05:00] <ZykoticK9> linux_is_my_hero, no PMs thanks.  Pastebin would be best
[05:01] <Flannel> patrick-1: manual installation is the only way.  That version of PHP is in Lucid (which will be released in two days) and Hardy has 5.2.10.
[05:01] <linux_is_my_hero> zykotick9: hwo do i use pastebin?
[05:01] <nsadmin> video? maybe... there are tutorials and uni courses on unix/linux
[05:01] <ZykoticK9> !paste > linux_is_my_hero
[05:01] <Flannel> polarsky: Please don't treat "google" as an answer, thanks.
[05:01] <ZykoticK9> linux_is_my_hero, go to the site, paste the content, then bring the link to the paste back here
[05:01] <nsadmin> but it can be an answer
[05:01] <Flannel> patrick-1: Why is your boss insistent on Dapper?  Hardy is LTS as well, and Dapper is only supported for another 14 months.
[05:01] <patrick-1> Flannel: could you give me a quick ripdown on that to do? can i re-use the packaged apache?
[05:01] <Flannel> nsadmin: Not in this channel.
[05:02] <Jeeves_Moss> James806, the best way is to "pick a project", break down the steps required to acomplish it, then run with it
[05:02] <polarsky> @Flannel, ok
[05:02] <James806> ok
[05:02] <patrick-1> Flannel: For now I dont care why he does. It will come back to haunt him at some time :D im just the peon doing the work :)
[05:02] <nsadmin> well if they;'re not paying me then I may suggest it. As soon as the check arrives in my email is the moment that someone can tell me how I support
[05:02] <linux_is_my_hero> Zykotick9: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/423730/
[05:03] <Flannel> patrick-1: Yeah, you just have to swap out php and libapache2-mod-php5.  You can't backport the packages from Lucid, because that'd require you to backport apache as well (Lucid uses apache2.2, Dapper uses apache2)
[05:03] <justin_> Hey, I am trying to fix my X server. I think it is a problem with my  onboard graphics card. I removed the old one because it is broke. I also can't connect to the internet. Can someone help me?
[05:03] <Flannel> nsadmin: No, I will remove you from this channel if you refer someone to google as an answer to a question other than "what is a good search engine"
[05:03] <ZykoticK9> linux_is_my_hero, remove sudo!  this is very bad - ONLY use gksu for graphic apps - and NEVER run filesharing as root
[05:03] <patrick-1> Flannel: okay, I found this howto: http://dan.drydog.com/apache2php.html but i seem to be missing axps ..
[05:03] <Flannel> nsadmin: This channel has guidelines that we expect you to follow, if you don't wish to follow them, you're welcome to spend your time elsewhere.
[05:04] <gokul> James806, why dont you try the ubuntu manual ?? (But its still in its child stage)
[05:04] <James806> i do have to admit it Linux is allot better then windows
[05:04] <linux_is_my_hero> zykotick9: alright will do :-D
[05:04] <nsadmin> when canonical cuts me a check, I'll work on their terms
[05:04] <linux_is_my_hero> zykotick9: good thing it didn't launch
[05:04] <h00k> !lucid | _pg_
[05:04] <linux_is_my_hero> James806: yeah, it is :-)
[05:04] <h00k> woah, by backscroll was broken.
[05:04] <Flannel> nsadmin: We are not canonical, we are volunteers.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines
[05:04] <h00k> sorry, _pg_
[05:05] <Flannel> patrick-1: You'll want to ask ##php for this, since you're basically just going to be compiling it yourself
[05:05] <nsadmin> well you're supporting canonical who is selling a service
[05:05] <James806> are there any good books out for 9.04 or 10.4
[05:05] <patrick-1> Flannel: compiling php ist the hard part. its compiling it right to work with the packaged apache.
[05:05] <Flannel> nsadmin: If you'd like to discuss this further, please feel free to bring it to #ubuntu-offtopic, or #ubuntu-ops.
[05:05] <linux_is_my_hero> JAmes806: youll learn more just using it
[05:05] <Jeeves_Moss> James806, the best way is to "pick a project", break down the steps required to acomplish it, then run with it
[05:06] <rhl> Hi, can anyone here tell me about setting up a "man in the middle" for telnet, I want to log incoming telnet connections
[05:06] <James806> what kind of project can u pick?
[05:06] <Jeeves_Moss> Flannel, was I that annoying when I started?
[05:06] <patrick-1> #php sent me to my distro channel :)
[05:06] <linux_is_my_hero> JAmes806: I installed ubuntu on a tablet pc
[05:06] <fillayy> Hello, does anyone know anything about wireless internet?
[05:06] <polarsky> use a tool like dsniff or ettercap
[05:06] <Hillshum> nsadmin: This channel belongs to Cannonical, and you are expected to abide by its terms while here
[05:06] <polarsky> for mitm
[05:06] <linux_is_my_hero> fillaay: lemme guess ur wifi doesnt work?
[05:06] <Flannel> Hillshum: this channel does not belong to Canonical
[05:06] <nsadmin> when canonical cuts me a check, I'll work on their terms
[05:07] <rhl> does dsniff log telnet?
[05:07] <linux_is_my_hero> fillayy: lemme guess ur wifi doesn't work?
[05:07] <polarsky> yes
[05:07] <fillayy> Nope, my wifi is fine, I wanted help with mobile broadband and how to get my wireless networks back on my menu bar thing.
[05:07] <polarsky> check out their page
[05:07] <polarsky> http://monkey.org/~dugsong/dsniff/
[05:07] <justin_> Hey, I am trying to fix my X server. I think it is a problem with my  onboard graphics card. I removed the old one because it is broke. I also can't connect to the internet. Can someone help me?
[05:08] <Hillshum> Flannel: Maybe Freenode, but I think my point stands
[05:08] <patrick-1> Flannel: Any chance in getting a hint on how to build php so that it works with the current apache package in dapper?
[05:08] <Flannel> patrick-1: That page looked pretty good.  What dependency were you missing?
[05:08] <patrick-1> Flannel: cant find axps :)
[05:08] <linux_is_my_hero> fillayy: i dont know i tried removing mine to add it again with you but i dont know how u got rid of it in the first place
[05:08] <Avasz> is there any way to get configuration editor to its default?
[05:09] <linux_is_my_hero> fillayy: howd u get rid of it?
[05:09] <patrick-1> Flannel: And what paths to choose to it will run with apache
[05:09] <fillayy> right click and remove from pannel.
[05:09] <fillayy> panel*
[05:09] <James806> thanks everyone for your help and suggestions
[05:09] <linux_is_my_hero> JAmes806: welcome to linux, good luck :-)
[05:09] <ennui> some images in my interface show up with the red 'no' sign instead of displaying the picture
[05:09] <Flannel> !compile | patrick-1
[05:10] <linux_is_my_hero> !java | linux_is_my_hero
[05:10] <patrick-1> Flannel: Are you telling me to recompile apache?
[05:10] <Flannel> patrick-1: That page might help, with build-dep and stuff
[05:10] <Avasz> !configuration editor
[05:10] <Flannel> patrick-1: No, I'm telling you to compile php and the php module for apache
[05:10] <Jeeves_Moss> Flannel, 'night.  Fiance is calling.
[05:10] <linux_is_my_hero> !wireless | fillayy
[05:10] <Flannel> Bye Jeeves_Moss
[05:10] <linux_is_my_hero> fillayy: gotta get my charger, ttyl
[05:10] <linux_is_my_hero> 'nite
[05:10] <fillayy> thx
[05:11] <justin_> The command dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg isn't helping me. X server isn't working. I have on board video.
[05:12] <fillayy> Does anyone know how to get my wireless networks back onto GNOME Panel?
[05:12] <leagris> patrick-1, just a guess, if I'd really needed a custom version of PHP I would download the packaged php source apt-get source then dig inside it and customize it including version then build and install my custom packaged php. Using the existing framework of an existing package source will help you keep it in good shape with other packaged applications and it will be easier to upgrade or replace.
[05:13] <Scunizi> justin_: what kind of card is it?
[05:13] <skrag> hey guys, does 9.10 install some sort of default firewall? im trying to host a doom server and I cant get it to contact the master server, i can ping out and internet browse
[05:13] <patrick-1> leagris: mhh, but they have already been compiled.
[05:14] <patrick-1> would be useful to see how they were compiled
[05:14] <maco> skrag: there is a firewall but it is not configured
[05:14] <Scunizi> skrag: if it uses port 80 your ISP might be blocking it.
[05:14] <maco> skrag: ports are all open but with no services listening til you install and start 'em
[05:14] <fillayy> Does anyone know how to get my wireless networks back onto GNOME Panel?
[05:14] <renegaid> does ubuntu have a search for program feature. hate scrolling through menus. That's old school
[05:14] <justin_> S3 Unichrome Pro, it is what comes with those tiny VIA motherboards.
[05:15] <Scunizi> justin_: arg.. it's sort of supported in the kernel.. but they are a pain.. what's the issue? bad resolution?
[05:15] <goddard> I am having some issues getting some files to work properly after setting up my ubuntu server what are the proper settings to allow a php file to read another file
[05:15] <justin_> Scunizi, also, my internet isn't working. I did a modprobe to get the drivers working, did a iwlist scan to find the network, and assigned it with iwconfig, but the internet simply won't work.
[05:15] <skrag> maco: yeah i ahve my router all set up with the ports open,
[05:15] <fillayy> Does anyone know how to get my wireless networks back onto GNOME Panel?
[05:15] <gmonnie> I'm trying to change my login screen on 9.10, can any tell me how, or where i can find a how to thing?
[05:16] <justin_> Scunizi, nothing happens. It is a black screen when X is booted.
[05:16] <maco> skrag: no im saying thats how ubuntu is by default. all open. but um are you NAT'd by chance?
[05:16] <maco> skrag: since you mentioned having a router? have you remembered to forward the ports on it?
[05:16] <skrag> maco: yeah the ports are forewarded, how do i find out in im NAT'd?
[05:17] <maco> skrag: if you get a 192.168 instead of a real outside ip you're NAT'd. but thats what port forwarding is to get around
[05:17] <Scunizi> justin_: that's a different issue.. possibly related to network manager.. personally I use wicd for control.. seems much more stable..  As for the video it almost sounds like it's overscanning.. will ctrl+alt+F2 give you a terminal prompt?
[05:18] <justin_> No.
[05:18] <skrag> maco: yeah i get a 192.168 IP its weird because i can run the server and query it from outside, but the query program is telling me that outgoing connections could be blocked
[05:18] <Scunizi> justin_: when you boot do you see the grub menu? if so use the rescue kernel to attempt fixing the video.
[05:18] <gmonnie> anybody know how to change the login screen on 9.10
[05:18] <justin_> Yeah, I can get to grub.
[05:18] <justin_> I did.
[05:18] <justin_> "xfix" does nothing.
[05:19] <cipher> can you do a virus scan on windows from ubuntu with a wubi install?
[05:19] <justin_> All I can do is get to the command line.
[05:19] <polarsky> http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/01/02/how-to-replace-ubuntus-default-brown-login-window/
[05:19] <maco> skrag: if outsiders can reach it you should be ok
[05:19] <polarsky> and u can pick up sum gdm themes
[05:19] <polarsky> on gnome look
[05:19] <ZykoticK9> gmonnie, changing the GDM login theme is non-trival in 9.10+ right now - you can try Epidermis https://launchpad.net/epidermis or gdm2setup https://launchpad.net/gdm2setup - i haven't had any luck with either myself, hope your luck is better
[05:19] <epoh> gnome <3
[05:19] <eric__> how do u update firefox in bt4
[05:19] <patrick-1> Flannel: okay, whatever. ill rebuild apache2 also...
[05:19] <polarsky> oh hello epoh
[05:19] <Scunizi> justin_: well.. from the command line you have the ability to diagnose and fix things.. however this one is a bit beyond me.. hopefully someone will pick up the thread and guide you through it.
[05:19] <renegaid> does ubuntu have a search for program feature. hate scrolling through menus. That's old school
[05:20] <epoh> hello polarsky
[05:20] <polarsky> heh grub2
[05:20] <epoh> lol
[05:20] <eric__> no its old
[05:20] <Scunizi> renegaid: kubutu does.. :)  it's pretty nice
[05:20] <polarsky> nearly no documentation with grub2
[05:20] <evilbug> my system won't load login and so i can't enter at all. i get an error saying /etc/fstab can't be found but it is where it's supposed to be. the uuid in fstab and /dev/disk/by-uuid is different. i'm on xubuntu 9.10, what can i do?
[05:20] <ZykoticK9> !backtrack | eric__
[05:20] <polarsky> how did /etc/fstab get deleted?
[05:21] <justin_> Hey, I am trying to fix my X server. I think it is a problem with my  onboard graphics card. I removed the old one because it is broke. I also can't connect to the internet. Can someone help me?
[05:21] <cipher> Does anyone know if you can run a virus scan on windows from ubuntu on a wubi install?
[05:21] <eric__> so no one knows how to update ubuntu
[05:21] <evilbug> polarsky: it didn't get deleted. apparently it can't be found but i checked and it's where it's supposed to be.
[05:21] <r00t__> eric__,
[05:21] <r00t__> What was your question?
[05:21] <skrag> maco: i wish it were that simple, i cant seem to figure out whats blocking my server from gettin out if theres no software firewall on my end and my router is set up right
[05:21] <polarsky> welll
[05:21] <polarsky> u may have a backup file
[05:21] <Scunizi> justin_: just a quick thought.... did you turn on the onboard graphics in the bios after removing the old card?
[05:21] <eric__> i need to know hot to update ubuntu
[05:21] <polarsky> /etc/fstab.bak
[05:21] <DaemonLee> eric__, goto terminal.
[05:21] <DaemonLee> type in sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:21] <eric__> ok
[05:21] <epoh> ah, ubuntu.
[05:21] <maco> skrag: dont you only have to worry about things getting in?
[05:22] <polarsky> cp /etc/fstab.bak /etc/fstab
[05:22] <polarsky> as root of course.
[05:22] <eric__> done
[05:22] <eric__> what now
[05:22] <DaemonLee> Congratulations. You updated.
[05:22] <goddard> what are the right cmod settings for web serving files on apache?
[05:22] <DaemonLee> :D
[05:22] <AgentX> Can 10.04 RC be upgrade to the final release when it is released? (apt-get upgrade)?
[05:22] <DaemonLee> Unless you want the new version of Ubuntu.
[05:22] <skrag> maco: unfortuntaly no, my server has to comunicate with the master server so other players can see it on the server list
[05:22] <polarsky> well eric_
[05:22] <evilbug> polarsky: one sec.
[05:22] <polarsky> just restart
[05:22] <Scunizi> eric__: to do it completely type .... sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ... dist-upgrade will *not* take you to the next release.
[05:22] <ZykoticK9> AgentX, yes see !final in #ubuntu+1
[05:22] <polarsky> i men evilbug
[05:22] <wasutton3> does anyone know if i can have a mounted fat32 partition in ubuntu also mounted as a disk to a vbox guest at the same time?
[05:22] <polarsky> srry
[05:22] <polarsky> lol
[05:22] <FloodBot1> polarsky: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:23] <AgentX> ZykoticK9: tanks
[05:23] <polarsky> @cipher
[05:23] <DaemonLee> Scunizi, Did Eric want to upgrade to the new distro?
[05:23] <Scunizi> wasutton3: no.. but you can via samba
[05:23] <polarsky> u can use clamav
[05:23] <polarsky> to scan /host
[05:23] <Scunizi> DaemonLee: read my post again.. dist-upgrade *doesn't* take you to the next release
[05:23] <evilbug> polarsky: there's no backup.
[05:24] <DaemonLee> Scunizi, I know. I thought he just wanted to do a normal update.
[05:24] <polarsky> ls /etc | grep fstab
[05:24] <polarsky> well hope.
[05:24] <Scunizi> DaemonLee: that is a full normal update
[05:24] <Juzzy> ls /etc/*fstab*
[05:24] <Juzzy> :/
[05:24] <DaemonLee> Scunizi, I'm aware. I didn't know that he wanted to do a Distro Upgrade.
[05:24] <wasutton3> Scunizi: i would except the guest is osx, and its kinda cranky with the networking
[05:24] <Scunizi> DaemonLee: again.. it's not a distro upgrade......
[05:24] <evilbug> polarsky: i ran cp but there is no fstab.bak
[05:24] <cipher> yes polarsky?
[05:25] <polarsky> oh there is one more way
[05:25] <polarsky> sudo blkid
[05:25] <DaemonLee> Scunizi, I know that. I didn't know that he wanted to do a distro upgrade.
[05:25] <evilbug> polarsky: talking to me?
[05:25] <polarsky> yes
[05:25] <polarsky> @cipher, all ur windows files are located in /host in wubi
[05:25] <polarsky> u can use clamav to scan it
[05:26] <justin_> How do I get internet working from the command line?
[05:26] <polarsky> @evilbug, use ur livedisc
[05:26] <polarsky> and copy the fstab file from there
[05:26] <evilbug> polarsky: ok. apparently fstab is hosting the correct uuid for root.
[05:26] <goddard> I am trying to figure out the best CHMOD values for severing PHP files on an Apache webserver
[05:26] <Scunizi> DaemonLee: ok.. let's clarify this.. dist-upgrade does not do a distro upgrade.. it *WILL* upgrade package to the next version if they are available for the release that he's using.. If he's on 9.10 he'll stay on 9.10 but stuff like OpenOffice might get the next version.
[05:27] <skrag> what is another way to run stuff besides "./"??
[05:27] <cipher> polarsky:ok,great because I have a NASTY virus that took over admin priviliges and basically locked me out of windows. thank you
[05:27] <Juzzy> skrag: PATH=. and then just type it out
[05:27] <Juzzy> or /full/path/to/file
[05:27] <Juzzy> or if its a script: bash blah.sh
[05:27] <polarsky> than use output from blkid
[05:27] <polarsky> the UID part
[05:27] <polarsky> and make the changes to the fstab file
[05:28] <skrag> juzzy thanks
[05:28] <epoh> polarsky, pm
[05:28] <justin_> How do I get internet working from the command line?
[05:28] <Juzzy> justin_: setup /etc/network/interfaces
[05:29] <evilbug> polarsky: my fstab has the correct uuid but the system somehow can't see it.
[05:29] <polarsky> justin_
[05:29] <evilbug> polarsky: could it be an xserver issue?
[05:29] <ennui> for some reason my screen resolution is diffrent on my log in screen
[05:29] <zhangchunlei> how to uninstall win2-7 Pack in ubuntu 10.04 Rc
[05:29] <polarsky> use iwlist
[05:29] <evilbug> polarsky: what happens is that i boot, select my kernel, boot splash comes on for a while, and then black screen instead of login.
[05:29] <polarsky> http://www.ghacks.net/2009/04/14/connect-to-a-wireless-network-via-command-line/
[05:30] <polarsky> @evilbug, has that happened?
[05:30] <cyclopse> how to install kde4 ?
[05:30] <evilbug> polarsky: yes. that's what my problem is. started today for no reason.
[05:30] <zhangchunlei> how to uninstall win2-7 Pack in ubuntu 10.04 Rc
[05:30] <polarsky> and the fstab is missing
[05:31] <polarsky> well did u attempt making new one?
[05:31] <polarsky> via livecd
[05:31] <polarsky> did u edit the fstab file and make it correspond with output from blkid?
[05:31] <evilbug> polarsky: no. i looked and the fstab is there. now i'll try copying the one from the livecd onto my hdd.
[05:31] <UbuntuBoy> great article on the new Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid: http://techbytes4.wordpress.com/ Good blog, I recommend subscribing.
[05:31] <justin_> How do I get internet working from the command line?
[05:31] <evilbug> polarsky: my fstab displays everything correctly.
[05:31] <polarsky> remember to sudo blkid
[05:31] <polarsky> and make sure the uids match
[05:31] <Flannel> UbuntuBoy: Please don't advertise here, thanks
[05:31] <cyclopse> apt-get install kde4 , so not works
[05:31] <polarsky> get kubuntu
[05:31] <Flannel> zhangchunlei: #ubuntu+1 for Lucid support, thanks.
[05:32] <zhangchunlei> thanks
[05:32] <xangua> cyclopse: try sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:32] <zhangchunlei> Flannel, thanks
[05:32] <cyclopse> xangua, wow it worked
[05:32] <cyclopse> thanks
[05:33] <justin_> How do I get internet working from the command line?
[05:33] <polarsky> http://www.ghacks.net/2009/04/14/connect-to-a-wireless-network-via-command-line/
[05:33] <polarsky> justin_ read
[05:33] <evilbug> polarsky: that did the trick. thank you very very much.
[05:33] <YC\> Is it going to be possible to upgrade directly from 8.10 to 10.04?
[05:34] <polarsky> ur welcome evilbug
[05:34] <polarsky> @justin_ make sure u check ur interface first
[05:34] <polarsky> with ifconfig
[05:34] <polarsky> tho most ppl are on eth0
[05:34] <polarsky> u might be on eth1
[05:34] <polarsky> just check.
[05:36] <justin_> Thank you, polarsky. I got it working. Didn't know the last step.
[05:36] <justin_> dhclient and all.
[05:37] <polarsky> ur welcome mate. :)
[05:37] <Flannel> YC\: No, 8.04 to 10.04, or 9.10 to 10.04.  From 8.10 you have to go 8.10 > 9.04 > 9.10 > 10.04
[05:38] <evilbug> polarsky: thanks again for your help.
[05:38] <voss749> YC, sure install ubuntu 10.04 CD, click install and click format hard drive :)
[05:38] <YC\> Heh. Thanks. :)
[05:38] <roshanjames> hello! I am a ubuntu-newbie: I cant get notify-send to work. I have libnotify-bin version 0.4.5 and notify-osd 0.9.25 (I am on Karmic Kaola 9.10). When I type in `notify-send "test" "test"` nothing shows up. There are no error messages also.
[05:39] <voss749> YC, unless you have a superfast internet connection the sanest way to do it is back up all your personal documents and install 10.04 as a clean install.
[05:39] <polarsky> thx, glad to help
[05:39] <roshanjames> Sorry (notify-osd version 0.9.24 not 25).
[05:39] <YC\> Yeah, does seem like it, huh? :)
[05:40] <YC\> Thanks for your help, folks.
[05:41] <voss749> YC, on the other hand if you can always do an AFK upgrade, upgrade-rinse-lather-repeat 4 times :)
[05:42] <justin__> Now I have the internet back on this computer.
[05:42] <justin__> All I need is help getting the Xserver working.
[05:42] <polarsky> justin
[05:42] <Doyle> Q: When copying something from a program then closing the program before pasting it, the copied text isn't available to be pasted. Is there a setting to change this?
[05:42] <polarsky> oic
[05:42] <justin__> Yes, polarsky?
[05:42] <polarsky> ur in x
[05:42] <justin__> polarsky: No I am not. I am connecting to this place via the program irssi from the command line.
[05:43] <xangua> Doyle: if you use gnome try Parcellite
[05:44] <Doyle> xangua: thanks
[05:44] <polarsky> lol u mean /exec -o ssh
[05:44] <roshanjames> Any suggestions about my notify-send issue? Anyone?
[05:44] <polarsky> or u got internet up, so u can use irssi
[05:44] <patrick_> I want to install multiple desktop environments, but I dont want any of my defualt apps to get messed up and I dont want my splash screen to get messed up either, or my login manager. How can i do this? I would like lxde, xfce, and Enlightenment
[05:44] <polarsky> well patrick, u can installem, but to use em
[05:44] <polarsky> change session type
[05:45] <polarsky> when ur at gdm
[05:45] <polarsky> like i can choose between gnome, flux, and openbox
[05:45] <patrick_> polarsky, in the past they are all fighting over splash screen and login manager, at one point I had a xubuntu splash screen, a kde login manager and a gnome boot. all in one go.
[05:45] <roshanjames> I cant get notify-send to work: I have libnotify-bin version 0.4.5 and notify-osd 0.9.24 (I am on Karmic Kaola 9.10). When I type in `notify-send "test" "test"` nothing shows up. There are no error messages also.
[05:46] <patrick_> polarsky, do I need to get a "core" version? or a "lite" version or something?
[05:47] <polarsky> srry ive never had thoseissues turn up before
[05:47] <Shamoun> what is a good calendar app that will sync both ways with google calendar?
[05:47] <polarsky> so, dont kno what to tell ya bro.
[05:47] <patrick_> polarsky, which things do you install for synaptic?
[05:47] <scunizi> Shamoun: sunbird/thunderbird = lightening .. or kalendar a kde app
[05:47] <polarsky> well actually
[05:47] <polarsky> im not using ubuntu
[05:47]  * polarsky uses sabayon
[05:48] <Shamoun> i never liked sunbird
[05:48] <polarsky> i had openbox and flux
[05:48] <patrick_> polarsky, ah.
[05:48] <polarsky> and they never gave me trouble
[05:48] <Shamoun> i guess i could try kalendar
[05:48] <scunizi> Shamoun: you'd be better off with sunbird on gnome.. kalendar will pull in tons of libs and maybe not enough to sync with google
[05:49] <patrick_> so do I want lxde, lxde-common, or lxde-core?
[05:49] <polarsky> kalender will force u to install kde dependancies
[05:49] <Shamoun> scunizi, hmm, good to know thanks
[05:49] <polarsky> i think apt-get install lxde
[05:49] <scunizi> Shamoun: if you're running kubuntu (kde) then that would be the answer.
[05:49] <polarsky> should do the trick
[05:50] <patrick_> same for xfce?
[05:50] <patrick_> and E?
[05:51] <polarsky> not sure.
[05:51] <Shamoun> hmm, well i am still running windows 7. i am trying to figure out whether i want to do ubuntu / kubuntu on this system
[05:51] <polarsky> lxde is nice and lightweight tho
[05:51] <polarsky> Shamoun theres nobig difference between ubuntu and kubuntu
[05:51] <skrag> do you have to do something special to open up ports above the 10000 range in 9.10?
[05:51] <scunizi> Shamoun: install virtualbox from virtualbox.org and run them both in a virtual machine to see.
[05:52] <polarsky> pick one or theother if u like gnome or kde or vice versa
[05:52] <polarsky> more*
[05:52] <polarsky> skrag
[05:52] <polarsky> nope
[05:53] <polarsky> u must however, be root to listen to ports lower than 1024
[05:53] <polarsky> or i mean, bind to
[05:53] <polarsky> whatever lol.
[05:53] <fillayy> Does anyone know how I can get my Network Manager back onto my Panel/
[05:54] <polarsky> right click
[05:54] <polarsky> add to panel
[05:54] <fillayy> Its not there :(
[05:54] <geirha> fillayy: network-manager resides in the notification area, so you've likely removed that somehow
[05:54] <fillayy> geirha, how do I get it back?
[05:55] <geirha> !panels | fillayy
[05:55] <geirha> fillayy: Or right click, add to panel, notification area
[05:55] <fillayy> sweet dude, thanks geirha
[05:57] <cLuCk-cLuUk> hello everyone.. awfully quiet in here
[05:57] <scunizi> the calm before the storm
[05:57] <polarsky> well said.
[05:58] <cLuCk-cLuUk> seems like the new release doesn't have much enthusiasm..
[05:59]  * scunizi knows the pattern.. alls quiet toward the beginning of the next release.. most questions are technical and a little more advanced.. after a release questions are much more basic
[05:59] <scunizi> cLuCk-cLuUk: lots.. but it's all being discussed in #ubuntu+1
[06:00] <polarsky> i didnt like the new color scheme
[06:00] <fatboy-ubuntu-re> i'm having trouble mounting my windows partition on ubuntu remix 9.10
[06:00] <mellis> anyone know anything about apt-cacher-ng
[06:00] <fatboy-ubuntu-re> how do i mount?
[06:00] <polarsky> press the icon of the mountable media
[06:01] <polarsky> should be on ur lower toolbar
[06:01] <polarsky> and press mount
[06:01] <polarsky> u can also change settings to add automounting
[06:01] <fatboy-ubuntu-re> i can mount anything else, just not the windows partition
[06:02] <polarsky> farboy
[06:02] <polarsky> install ntfs-config
[06:02] <polarsky> than go to system > administration > ntfs configuration tool
[06:03] <alkisg> fatboy-ubuntu-re: try this command from a terminal, and see if it produces any error output. Replace sda1 with your windows partition number: sudo udisks --mount /dev/sda1
[06:03] <polarsky> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows
[06:03] <alkisg> Ah sorry that's lucid
[06:03] <polarsky> the link i just posted
[06:03] <polarsky> is for lucid
[06:03] <polarsky> should work anyhow tho
[06:05] <polarsky> gotta run, night folks.
[06:05] <scunizi> night
[06:09] <gantrixx> has anyone had any luck getting 9.10 to run on a Dell Studio 15 (one of the newer ones with the intel wifi chips)?
[06:09] <Alcor> Can you wifi into a usb dongle to get to ubuntu?
[06:11] <Alcor> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[06:11] <bazhang> Alcor, please take that to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:11] <theadmin> bazhang: He did ask a question
[06:12] <Alcor> k
[06:13] <the_file> I am trying to combine the applications, system, and places menus into one but can't figure it out!
[06:14] <Kasm279> whats the game that its a 2D platform shooter with the players looking like kirby
[06:14] <Kasm279> the title was german i think
[06:14] <scunizi> Kasm279: padman?
[06:14] <h00k> the_file: there is an applet called Gnome Menu that you can add
[06:14] <alkisg> Kasm279: teeworlds?
[06:14] <Kasm279> YES
[06:14] <Kasm279> thanks you alkisg
[06:14] <alkisg> np
[06:15] <Kasm279> i couldn't remember tha name and i dont have an ubuntu machine ATM
[06:15] <Kasm279> anyway, later
[06:17] <Alcor> I guess game questions are more "on-topic" than the tech question I asked...
[06:17] <scunizi> Alcor: the one you asked before didn't make much sense
[06:18] <Alcor> I guess I should have asked if the usb port was bi-directional in ubuntu...
[06:19] <scunizi> Alcor: yes.. and a usb wifi dongle will typically work for connections if it's the right chipset
[06:20] <greezmunkey> Alcor: I used a linksys usb600n for a long time on this machine, worked great.
[06:21] <Alcor> scunizi How do you know which chipset to use?  Is there a list?
[06:21] <h00k> the_file: right click on your panel up top, click Add to Panel, find the Gnome Menu (not the custom Gnome menubar) ad add that
[06:21] <gh0ghnus> hello, i don't understand this command: arunsb@laptop:/tmp/initrd-src$ gzip -dc  /tmp/initrd.img-2.6.28-11-generic  | cpio -id can any one help me? why we use -c to extract initrd image? is any other command or switch?
[06:21] <Daughain> Anyone familiar with synching Android to Ubuntu via wifi?
[06:21] <Alcor> greezmunkey thx Greez
[06:22] <Traveler> Hi, Quick question I have a laptop running ubuntu its a bit laggy with only 512mb I was wondering if I purchased 1gb more would I see a decent increase in speed? Also my laptop currently is using 533mhz the extra ram is 667mhz which is compatable with my laptop will these two be compatible with each other?
[06:22] <scunizi> Alcor: not sure about a list.. greezmunkey gave one suggestion.. you might also check in ##linux or #hardware.. but #hardware is more OS neutral
[06:23] <Alcor> scunizi thx
[06:23] <greezmunkey> scunizi: I hade to compile the driver though, not an easy option, took three tries to get it stable! After that though...nice.
[06:23] <scunizi> Traveler: for best performance and to reduce "problems" you should match type and speed of ram
[06:23] <scunizi> greezmunkey: I've used a netgear.. with no issue.. but I can't remember the model
[06:23] <Bohemian> how do i make this symlink? The workaround is to make symlink 'ctools/delegator/plugins/tasks/i18ntaxonomy.pages.inc' to member:file 'i18n/i18ntaxonomy/i18ntaxonomy.pages.inc'.
[06:23] <Bohemian> is that ln -s ctools/delegator/plugins/tasks/i18ntaxonomy.pages.inc i18n/i18ntaxonomy/i18ntaxonomy.pages.inc ?
[06:24] <h00k> Bohemian: that appears right. Maybe check the manpage for 'ln'
[06:24] <h00k> Bohemian: I'l quite tired, so maybe doublecheck the manpage
[06:25] <Losha> gh0ghnus: gzip -dc uncompresses to stdout which means the results get fed to cpio which extracts (-i) and creates directories (-d) as needed...
[06:25] <Traveler> scunizi, that was my initial thought but the shop is out of stock.
[06:26] <azlon> how can i block a user on irc in pidgin?
[06:26] <scunizi> Traveler: then get 2.. of the same type that's available and sell the old one..
[06:26] <greezmunkey> Traveler: it's worth the wait to get it right. 1GB of ddr2 is about 20-25 dollars right now. put as much as you can in you LT, and make it compatible speed/size, otherwise you're inviting trouble.
[06:27] <scunizi> azlon: pidgin is a good IM client but not a good IRC client.. you might switch to xchat or irssi
[06:28] <Traveler> greezmunkey, if only it was $20-25 for laptop sodimm were looking at like $40 here in australia
[06:28] <azlon> scunizi: dude, you're still here? you were here when i went to sleep last night, now its 8:30 am and you're still here...
[06:28] <greezmunkey> Traveler: Ah, exchange rates - be happy you're not in Grece right now...
[06:28] <greezmunkey> Greece
[06:29] <scunizi> azlon: it's 10:28 pm here. last night I couldn't sleep so stayed up till 2am.. 'bout ready to go to bed
[06:29] <greezmunkey> scunizi: PST as am I
[06:29] <gh0ghnus> Losha: thanks, is it possible to do this work without using cpio or first use gzip and then use cpio (without pipe). gzip says unknown suffix if you remove second part and i can't find how to do this.
[06:29] <scunizi> greezmunkey: yepper.. so.cal.
[06:29] <azlon> ugh, i miss PST...
[06:30] <Traveler> well i think i might go with scunizi idea and just get the faster and ditch the old one if they don't work togeather
[06:30] <azlon> scunizi: im from sac originally
[06:30] <Noose215> ?
[06:30] <scunizi> azlon: my old home town.. antioch
[06:30] <greezmunkey> I agree, with scunizi, worked 12 hrs today... Good night all!
[06:30] <azlon> no kidding, i am from placerville
[06:31] <Losha> gh0ghnus: try:  gzip -dc < /tmp/initrd.img-2.6.28-11-generic | cpio -id   (I added a '<' sign)
[06:31] <scunizi> Night all!
[06:33] <azlon> oh yeah, tomorrow is the big day... 10.04
[06:33] <azlon> is it smart to upgrade immediately or should i wait a couple weeks for bugs to be worked out?
[06:34] <mosno> azlon, depends how critical the system is
[06:34] <azlon> lol, ok so i will wait
[06:34] <mosno> azlon, and what redundancy you have available
[06:34] <mosno> azlon, :-)
[06:34] <Losha> azlon: wait until it stabilizes. A month or so...
[06:34] <mosno> azlon, if it is critical, you should have a tested backup/restore procedure anyway
[06:34] <azlon> mosno: by no means is this system critical, but i dont want to put up with the hassle
[06:35] <mosno> azlon, then what Losha said sounds reasonable
[06:35] <azlon> awesome
[06:36] <gh0ghnus> Losh: thanks. why we can't remove second part? (cpio -i) . thanks anyway.
[06:37] <justin_> I  need help configuring my xserver. I have a VIA onboard video chip and nothing I do is working.
[06:37] <rickfisher> I need some help with a stubborn 9.10 that won't boot. Tried Super Grub .9799 and won't boot. Dual booting Win 7 and worked fine for a while. what file do you need to see to help me?
[06:37] <gh0ghnus> Losha: thanks. why we can't remove second part? (cpio -i) . thanks anyway.
[06:37] <chillindave> What's the trick to access grub in 10.04?  It skips it and I can't access my other OS.
[06:37] <maco> chillindave: shift?
[06:38] <Losha> gh0ghnus: you can, but the whole point is to decompress (gzip) then unpack (cpio). What use is just decompressing it?
[06:38] <chillindave> maco, Alright.  I'm having a difficult time fixing the Windows boot.  So far nothing I've tried works.... I'll see where that gets me.
[06:39] <xTheGoat121x> It's not really a huge issue but I've noticed that on my Atheros card, my wireless cuts out at random intervals
[06:41] <rickfisher> chillindave have you tried Super Grub disk? Have you run Windoze repair?
[06:41] <dxc> what's the time now ?
[06:41] <rickfisher> Hammer time?
[06:41] <jotall> time to get ill?
[06:42] <dxc> Your time
[06:42] <rickfisher> time keeps on slipping
[06:42] <dxc> yes
[06:42] <rickfisher> How do I quote someones name before responding to them?
[06:42] <maco> rickfisher: start typing their name and hit tab
[06:42] <znxtch> Does anyone know if IPod classic will work with Ubuntu Lucid?  I've asked in #Ubuntu+1 but the room is dead.  I want to buy an IPOD classic today since I cant get my touch working I just wanted to check first.
[06:42] <rickfisher> Any help on Boot issues?
[06:42] <chillindave> rickfisher, Super Grub disk?  Yes to the second one, it doesn't work.
[06:42] <justin_> I  need help configuring my xserver. I have a VIA onboard video chip and nothing I do is working.
[06:43] <chillindave> It skips the grub menu at boot and goes straight into the desktop.
[06:43] <h00k> znxtch: yes
[06:43] <rickfisher> maco, I see
[06:43] <dxc> How to get grub update
[06:43] <rickfisher> maco, Great!
[06:43] <h00k> znxtch: although, even if it is dead, it's still the proper place ;)
[06:43] <rickfisher> dxc, what grub do you have?
[06:44] <znxtch> well my mission is time senstive
[06:44] <znxtch> i have a widow of oppurtunity to get the classic
[06:44] <Losha> h00k: why is it dead? I'd have thought it would be bubbling on the eve of a release....
[06:44] <znxtch> so im desperate
[06:44] <znxtch> :D
[06:44] <rickfisher> chillindave, does it boot into win or Ubuntu?
[06:44] <h00k> Losha: I don't know, there isn't a ton of activity at the moment, perhaps people are sleeping
[06:44] <justin_> I  need help configuring my xserver. I have a VIA onboard video chip and nothing I do is working.
[06:44] <chillindave> rickfisher, Ubuntu
[06:45] <Losha> h00k: all working on deadlines maybe...
[06:46] <rickfisher> chillindave, Did you try to hit the shift key when booting?
[06:46] <chillindave> rickfisher, Yeap, still goes straight into Ubuntu desktop.
[06:46] <chillindave> rickfisher, Every other version prior to 10.04 always gave me the grub menu.
[06:47] <CircuitBug> i am using a webcam for which i cant get proper support online.....lsusb returns :0c45:62b3 Microdia PC Camera with Microphone (SN9C202 + OV9655)
[06:48] <CircuitBug> can someone please help
[06:48] <rickfisher> chillindave, yea somehow the time got set to zero instead of 15 sec.
[06:48] <chillindave> rickfisher, In /etc/default/grub ?
[06:48] <dxc> I want to give up windows ,but I can't work without the software such as AutoCAD
[06:48] <rickfisher> chillindave, I added startup manager from synaptic and solved that problem
[06:48] <gh0ghnus> Losha: i want use just gzip. if you use file command on initrd, it says this is a gzip archive. but if you use gzip, it says unknown command. i used this one for example: gzip -d -S "" initrd... only -c can help, because printing in stdout and then using cpio.
[06:49] <justin_> I  need help configuring my xserver. I have a VIA onboard video chip and nothing I do is working.
[06:49] <chillindave> rickfisher, Alright, I'll give that a try.
[06:49] <rickfisher> justin what ubuntu are you using?
[06:49] <gh0ghnus> Losha: "it says unknown suffix" sorry
[06:50] <frankie_> hello i am trying to install flash on ubuntu 10.04 neeed help!
[06:50] <rickfisher> chillindave, I have dual monitors and I need to fight Nvidia to set them up now so I might be off line for a few minutes
[06:50] <dxc> Maybe I need to have a rest
[06:50] <wildbat> !lucid
[06:50] <chillindave> rickfisher, Alright, thank you.
[06:50] <CircuitBug> is any one using a mirodia webcam.....
[06:51] <dxc> Thanks ,rickfisher !
[06:51] <mmica> Hi all ;]
[06:51] <rickfisher> frankie_, go to Sytem then down to Administration then down to Hardware Drivers
[06:52] <CircuitBug> is any one using a mirodia webcam.....
[06:52] <hnd> mmica: hi :)
[06:52] <sp0spo> beep is for the system speaker is there somethign that is similar to the beep at boot?
[06:53] <frankie_> thanks it works
[06:53] <mmica> sp0soo: yep
[06:53] <sp0spo> what is it called?
[06:54] <rickfisher> frankie_, you are welcome
[06:54] <CircuitBug> is any one using a mirodia webcam.....
[06:54] <Losha> gh0ghnus: actually, on my local system, -c doesn't work, and I have to do: gzip -d < /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-26-generic | cpio -id
[06:54] <frankie_> :) !
[06:54] <mmica> sp0spo: differently,.. most an issue
[06:55] <CircuitBug> i am using a webcam for which i cant get proper support online.....lsusb returns :0c45:62b3 Microdia PC Camera with Microphone (SN9C202 + OV9655)
[06:55] <CircuitBug> can someone please help
[06:56] <sp0spo> when i reboot my computer the motherboard beeps... that is not the pc speaker of my computer.. what is that? the mb speaker?
[06:56] <hnd> sp0spo: the inbuilt speaker...
[06:57] <dean[w]> Suggestions for a decent twitter client? I've given up using Tweetdeck on linux. Too many problems
[06:57] <mmica> sp0spo: but also an information about an issue.. graphics card?
[06:57] <CircuitBug> sp0spo: it probably the speaker in your mother board....to turn it off just go to your bios settings and desable it
[06:58] <sp0spo> circuitbug, i want to be able for it to beep when i have a task complete... the regular beep/would only work if my monitor is turned to pc rather than video game system display
[06:58] <bryanr> guys
[06:58] <bryanr> this is the last day before 10.04
[06:59] <CircuitBug> so whats the problem?
[06:59] <gh0ghnus> Losha: that's it. i think you pressed tab and tab completion dosen't work. but if you type the whole name and  press enter it's work fine.
[06:59] <mmica> sp0spo: it's a laptop/pc?
[07:00] <sp0spo> pc
[07:00] <sp0spo> what device is the motherbaord or internal speaker anyways?
[07:01] <mmica> sp0spo: motherboard
[07:01] <sp0spo> what /dev/ deice?
[07:02] <justin_> My xserver still doesn't work.
[07:02] <justin_> I need some serious help.
[07:02] <JumboJellyfish> your xserver?
[07:03] <JumboJellyfish> is that, like, the guy who sells you ecstasy?
[07:03] <justin_> My machine is an old Everex PC, with those cheap VIA motherboards that are tiny. It comes with an onboard video that works with Linux out the box, but I had upgraded to a different card awhile back, and it broke, and now I can't switch back.
[07:03] <Kaze> hi just need some advise should I use x64 for AMD PC ? I already have intsalled i386 so any easy way to change kernel ?
[07:03] <sp0spo> i want to make my motherboard beep from ubutnu, how do i do this
[07:03] <Losha> JumboJellyfish: less comedy, more support, please
[07:04] <chillindave> rickfisher, Fixed it finally using this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1302743
[07:04] <chillindave> I wish I had found that about 5 hours ago.....
[07:04] <CircuitBug> is any one using a mirodia webcam.....
[07:04] <justin_> I also can't seem to use the program "screen" from the console, which prevents me from using irssi and elinks at the same time.
[07:04] <mmica> sp0spo: check this card.. or the card is good inserted
[07:04] <Flannel> justin_: What error/message/whatever does it give you?
[07:05] <plustax]> I am having an issue getting my webcam to work with tinychat and other web based flash applications. Can anyone help me? Also, in stickam the chats themselves look very glitchy to me and my cam doesnt work sometimes. Tinychat doesnt work at all.
[07:05] <justin_> Flannel: none. It simply hangs when loading the xserver.
[07:05] <plustax]> Anyone help me out?
[07:05] <rww> justin_: umm. screen doesn't use the xserver o.O
[07:05] <Flannel> justin_: Xserver? screen?
[07:06] <justin_> rww: I have no idea why screen isn't working from the console. It is less important to me than getting the xserver running. It is just limiting me further as I can use multiple consoles to do other things like surf the web with elinks at the same time, looking for a solution.
[07:06] <justin_> *as I can't
[07:06] <wildbat> sssd
[07:06] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[07:06] <plustax]> I am having an issue getting my webcam to work with tinychat and other web based flash applications. Can anyone help me? Also, in stickam the chats themselves look very glitchy to me and my cam doesnt work sometimes. Tinychat doesnt work at all.
[07:06] <Flannel> justin_: ctrl-alt-f1, f2, f3, f4, f5, f6 (that's ctrl-alt-f#) can all be used simultaneously
[07:06] <nerd> I have no sound when I play audio...got it for video, but no audio
[07:06] <bazhang> plustax], please don't repeat so quickly
[07:07] <Flannel> justin_: As a stop gap, of course.  I wouldn't actually consider doing that for prolonged periods ;)
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> Plustax]: does it work in cheese?
[07:07] <justin_> Flannel: Thanks for the tip.
[07:07] <Losha> justin_: usually when changing from onboard to card and vice versa there are bios settings you need to change. I assume you've done that?
[07:07] <justin_> Losha: no, I have not.
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> Nerd: have you installed ubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:07] <Losha> justin_: that's the first thing to look at, then...
[07:07] <nerd> crap...no..forgot to
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> Nerd: d'oh ;)
[07:08] <justin_> Losha: How do I get the BIOS again?
[07:08] <nerd> didnt think i had to since i had video playback
[07:08] <mosno> justin_, screwdriver, repeated stabbing motion
[07:08] <ActionParsnip> Nerd: it installs a tonne of other codecs. Dead handy
[07:08] <CircuitBug> is any one using a mirodia webcam.....
[07:08] <nerd> i know..just forgot to do it
[07:08] <Losha> justin_: it varies from mobo to mobo. Sometimes its the del key, sometimes its a function key. Try del first...
[07:09] <justin_> Losha: Ok, I will be back.
[07:09] <nerd> downloading now
[07:09] <nerd> it will play...but theres no sound..will this fix it???
[07:09] <igor47> anyone know anything about running a Xen Dom0 on lucid?
[07:09] <ActionParsnip> Circuitbug: the webcam model is moot. Run: lsusb ,one line will identify the chip used and you can websearch for the 8 character hex id
[07:09] <Kaze> Is there any easy way to convert to x64 for AMDs and is it wort it ?
[07:09] <Losha> mosno: less comedy, more support, please
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> Nerd: should do
[07:10] <igor47> can't find any docs. does one still need to copy a kernel from debian?
[07:10] <nerd> yea..How do i get my webcam to work..It's a Logitech
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> !lucid | igor47
[07:10] <mr_diggles> holy crap.  ubuntu fail.   dkms is not only undocumented by ubuntu, but generally (google) undocumented.  what a wonderful thing to force users to use.
[07:10] <mosno> Losha, tough crowd?
[07:10] <nerd> k...lets try to play these again
[07:10] <Losha> ActionParsnip: after tomorrow I suppose we won't be able to push them off to #ubuntu+1 ?
[07:11] <ActionParsnip> Nerd: the make and model is fairly moot. Run: lsusb ,you can then websearch for the 8 character hex id
[07:11] <Losha> mosno: support first, then comedy is all I'm asking for...
[07:11] <nerd> and still no sound
[07:11] <mosno> Losha, just tried to load the channel guidelines: "Can't connect securely because the SSL protocol has been disabled" -- awesome!
[07:11] <ActionParsnip> Losha: as soon as its officially released its all here and #ubuntu+1 will die off
[07:11] <mosno> Losha, but point taken.
[07:11] <ActionParsnip> Nerd: in all players?
[07:11] <nerd> yes
[07:12] <nerd> xine,vlc,mplayer
[07:12] <Kabz> hi everyone
[07:12] <nerd> but video playes and i have sound
[07:12] <nerd> but not with music
[07:12] <thrillERboy> Hi how to see list of network cards installed on a system?
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> Nerd: then its gonna take some websearching dude. Sorry. Maybe someone else can contribute. Suprised mplayer failed, its the daddy :
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> Thrillerboy: sudo lshw -C network
[07:13] <thrillERboy> thanks ActionParsnip
[07:13] <nerd> its a pci soundcard..not onboard
[07:13] <CircuitBug> lsusb returns :0c45:62b3 Microdia PC Camera with Microphone (SN9C202 + OV9655)
[07:13] <darth5> weid
[07:13] <ywgx> here have girl?
[07:13] <nerd> k...now sound in video is gone
[07:13] <Kabz> Hi do you know a good FPS like counter strike on linux ?
[07:13] <ywgx> here have good girl?
[07:13] <bazhang> ywgx, wrong channel
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> Circuitbug: ok go find guides for: 0c45:62b3 ubuntu
[07:13] <CircuitBug> i have searched every where....there is a group on google for it but the driver doesnt work for me
[07:13] <bazhang> ywgx, please stop
[07:14] <ywgx> sorry
[07:14] <ActionParsnip> Kabz: urban terror
[07:14] <Kabz> I tried it but it's not very good
[07:14] <ActionParsnip> Kabz: grab the beergarden installer for an easy life
[07:14] <sp0spo> is there a way to do dual audio output.. one through my tv speakers/hdmi audio and also my pc speakers?
[07:14] <Losha> Kabz: everyone's a critic...
[07:14] <ennui> can someone suggest something fo rme to plug into the command line to scan for open ports?
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> Kabz: penumbra is a scary fps
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> Ennui: nmap
[07:15] <ywgx> what are you talk?
[07:15] <ywgx> tell me
[07:15] <the_file> Is there any way to make the cursor larger in ubuntu, I can't figure it out.
[07:15] <Daughain> Anyone familiar with synching Android to Ubuntu via wifi?
[07:15] <bazhang> ywgx, ubuntu support
[07:15] <Losha> ywgx: computer support *only*....
[07:15] <bazhang> ywgx, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:15] <Kabz> ActionParsnip I had a look , very good ;)
[07:15] <Kabz> thx
[07:15] <mr_diggles> holy crap.   seriously.  compile my own kernel just for this wireless card.  yay thx ubutnu.  you rox my socks off.  F THAT
[07:15] <ark3qqq> the_file: Do you mean the mouse pointer?
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> Daughain: there is an sshfs client on android you can copy to you system with
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> Kabz: the demo is free but its worth the cash
[07:16] <the_file> omg
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> Mr_diggles: you'll probably find you need to compile the driver, not the kernel
[07:17] <the_file> can't figure out how to make mouse pointer bigger in ubuntu!
[07:17] <the_file> =O
[07:17] <Daughain> ActionParsnip: Can you give me a link?
[07:17] <PaperBoy> hi are svn git and yasm needed to rebuild ffmpeg
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> Daughain: its called andftp
[07:17] <PaperBoy> any one know?
[07:17] <Daughain> Thanks!
[07:17] <Kaze> Is there any real benefit in using x64 for AMDs rather than 386 ? how to convert the kernel to x64 currently it's generic
[07:18] <Kaze> anyone ?
[07:18] <ark3qqq> the_file: Take a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1119882
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> The_file: look under appearence, or mouse in preferences
[07:18] <justin_> Nothing in BIOS seemed to have anything to do with anything, Flannel.
[07:18] <Losha> PaperBoy: I don't recall. Are you sure you need to rebuild. There are repo versions that do most everything...
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> Kaze: you will need to reinstall dude, 64bit can help with audo and video encoding greatly
[07:18] <ywgx> USA?
[07:18] <Losha> justin_: you got into the bios then?
[07:19] <justin_> Losha: Yes, nothing to do there.
[07:19] <Losha> ywgx: international....
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> Ywgx: do you have a support question?
[07:19] <ywgx> i have
[07:19] <Losha> justin_: no option to enable/disable onboard video?
[07:19] <PaperBoy> Losha im sure..  someone is guiding me through it
[07:19] <justin_> Losha: no.
[07:19] <PaperBoy> just wanna make sure those packages are safe
[07:19] <Kaze> Thanks actionParsnip
[07:19] <ywgx> I want install freebsd
[07:19] <sp0spo> does ubuntu use palse audio or alsa?
[07:19] <bazhang> ywgx, #freebsd
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> Ywgx: *bsd isn't supported here
[07:19] <ennui> actionparsnip: do i run nmap <my ip>  ?
[07:19] <Losha> PaperBoy: if they come from the official repos, they are as safe as it gets
[07:19] <justin_> Losha: onboard video has to be working right now, no? It has to be a problem with the xserver.
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> Ennui: read the manpage or online, there are a lot of options but there are nice guides online
[07:20] <Kabz> Do you know Can I download linux games ?
[07:20] <ywgx> freebsd  good or bad?
[07:20] <Sinanthiel> Is ubuntu heavily command based like other linux operating systems?
[07:20] <bazhang> ywgx, thats offtopic here please stop
[07:20] <Kabz> Do you know where Can I download linux games ?
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> Ywgx: its good but not discussed or supported here
[07:20] <Losha> justin_: you said earlier it worked with a version of linux. Which version?
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> !games | kabz
[07:21] <Losha> Sinanthiel: there are guis for most things in Ubuntu, but not quite everything....
[07:21] <justin_> Losha: 7.10 I believe. Everex put a modified version of on there initially, but I just put standard Ubuntu on it. The onboard video does work with Linux, as I have used it before.
[07:21] <ActionParsnip> Kabz: if you had an MSX back in the day I recommend you get F1-Spirit its awesome
 thx
[07:21] <Sinanthiel> I want to learn linux, but I want something easy to start with.
[07:21] <ywgx> i will tomorrow install  freebsd  and ubuntu 10.04  in  my notepad
[07:22] <ActionParsnip> Justin_: gutsy is dead dude. I miss the gibbon
[07:22] <friendforall> Sinanthiel, fine
[07:22] <Kaze> Forgive me ops mods but these questions are from more like bots than ppl they seem so false is this a joke ?
[07:22] <Losha> justin_: I misunderstood you. I though you said the onboard video once worked with linux. Are you saying onboard has *never* worked with *any* linux version
[07:22] <Sinanthiel> Is ubuntu ideal for beginners?
[07:22] <friendforall> Sinanthiel, i can help you (if you help me)
[07:22] <thrillERboy> Hi how to stop eth0. I get the error <interface up or not permission: Operation not permitted>
[07:22] <friendforall> Sinanthiel, yes
[07:23] <justin_> thrillERboy: sudo ifconfig down eth0
[07:23] <ActionParsnip> Kaze: ubottu just makes our lives easier, you can imagine a lot of folks ask the same stuff so we can make her say stuff
[07:23] <thrillERboy> thanks justin_
[07:23] <rafaelsoaresbr> Sinanthiel, one of the most
[07:23] <Sinanthiel> friendforall> how can I help you?
[07:23] <Losha> Sinanthiel: ubuntu is ok for beginners. Linux mint is possibly even better. Or perhaps SuSe, or Mandriva. Lots of choices...
[07:23] <plustax]> ActionParsnip
[07:24] <plustax]> my cam does indeed work with cheese
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> ?
[07:24] <plustax]> im upgrading to lucid lynx
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> Plustax]: cool
[07:24] <Sinanthiel> Thanks guys..Now I have to chose... :)
[07:24] <plustax]> should that fix some things?
[07:24] <justin_> Losha: How am I going to fix this? dprk-reconfigure xserver-xorg just askes me questions about my keyboard...
[07:24] <Sinanthiel> choose*
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> Sinanthiel: try a few, they all have advantages and disadvantages
[07:24] <justin_> Sinanthiel: just choose Ubuntu. It has the broadest range of support, which is the most important thing for newbies.
[07:24] <friendforall> Sinanthiel, It is simple . I need DVD of a OS which you need to send to me
[07:24] <Losha> justin_: you can start by answering my question above...
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> Plustax]: maybe and maybe not. Try a livecd to test ;)
[07:25] <plustax]> kk
[07:25] <rafaelsoaresbr> Losha, do you use any rolling release linux?
[07:25] <thrillERboy> justin_, I get this <eth0: Unknown host>
[07:25] <ranjan> hi all...which is the best filesystem for a 1.5 TB portable storage
[07:25] <justin_> Losha: I thought I did. In any case, I can't scroll up in irssi, or if I can't, I dont know how to.
[07:25] <Sinanthiel> friendforall> no thanks... I can get help elsewhere.
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> Justin_: page up/down
[07:25] <franknie> how do i install flying toasters
[07:25] <justin_> thrillERboy: type ifconfig and see if you see what you want to stop.
[07:25] <azlon> i have a software raid 5 running. every time i reboot it resyncs (takes about 1800 hours). how can i find out why it keeps resyncing?
[07:25] <azlon> 1800 minutes... my bad
[07:25] <Losha> rafaelsoaresbr: I run Ubuntu 8.04. In a couple of months, if 10.04 looks ok, I will upgrade to it...
[07:26] <thrillERboy> ranjan depends on which OS you use. NTFS is good for swapping b/w windows and Ubuntu
[07:26] <friendforall> Sinanthiel, if you want then i will give you 5 dollar for cost
[07:26] <justin_> Losha: No. This onboard video works with Linux. I believe it works with the openchrome drivers.
[07:26] <ranjan> thrillERboy, i just want use it with linux
[07:26] <Sinanthiel> Is ubuntu free to download?
[07:26] <Addison> Greetings gentlemen!  :)
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> Sinanthiel: absolutely
[07:26] <ranjan> Sinanthiel, yes
[07:26] <bazhang> friendforall, what are you talking about
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> Sinanthiel: linux by nature is free and open
[07:26] <Losha> justin_: sorry, never heard of them. Time to start googling I expect...
[07:26] <Sinanthiel> Sweet
[07:26] <ranjan> Sinanthiel, to download,share ,modify,redistribute
[07:27] <Sinanthiel> Awesome
[07:27] <Losha> Sinanthiel: www.ubuntu.com. Plenty of information there...
[07:27] <sp0spo> init.d replaces modprobe?
[07:27] <sp0spo> what replaces modprobe?
[07:27] <justin_> I need some serious help getting the openchrome drivers to work with my VIA onboard video chip (I think it is S3 Unichrome Pro). Can anyone possibly help me out with this? I have no Xserver.
[07:28] <friendforall> bazhang, i need OS which i can not download for my connection speed. For this reason i need some help from some one who can send me the DVD copy
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> sp0spo; modprobe won't be replaced. Its needed to load and unload modules
[07:28] <rafaelsoaresbr> Sinanthiel, ubuntu is easy to install, and there's lots of guys that can help you here
[07:28] <ranjan> What about GFS
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> Justin_: sounds like you'll need an xorg.conf
[07:28] <bazhang> friendforall, this is not the place to ask; try a local lug or contact shipit.com
[07:28] <Sinanthiel> Well, I'm on my nintendo ds and can't browse the internet.That's why I'm asking questions
[07:28] <Addison> Hey guys.    Could someone lend a hand on this?
[07:28] <Addison> http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=629252&postcount=162
[07:28] <bazhang> !shipit > friendforall
[07:28] <rickfisher> friendforall, Ubuntu will mail you a DVD
[07:29] <Losha> sp0spo: I still have modprobe (8.04). It's there in 9.10...
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> Friedforall: get a local buddy to make you a disk
[07:29] <justin_> ActionParsnip: I can't seem to find anything googling that will help. I am at my wits end, I have no clue how to fix this.
[07:29] <rickfisher> justin_, what is open chrome?
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> Justin_: search for: openchrome xorg.conf endsection ,should be ok
[07:29] <justin_> rickfisher: Openchrome is the video drivers that run VIA onboard video.
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> Rickfisher: low power and low performance
[07:30] <rickfisher> ActionParsnip, can you help him?
[07:30] <Losha> justin_: I found this on google: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> Rickfisher: hopefully my recommended search will work
[07:31] <justin_> Losha: So did I. That document did not help me at all.
[07:31] <nerd> is i have a tarball, whats the easiest way to install the driver or software??
[07:31] <ennui> can canyone make a suggestion on a mini laptop that would run ubuntu?
[07:31] <justin_> ennui: I would buy an ASUS and put eeebuntu on it.
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> Ennui: acer aspire one z-something worked 100% ootb, even webcam
[07:32] <justin_> ennui: An ASUS EEEPC 900 or something similar.
[07:32] <Losha> justin_: did you work through the 'manual install' section?
[07:32]  * Yum-aWay is Away, Reason: ( ZzZzZz ) | Since: ( Wednesday, April 28, 2010. 03:24:26 ) Xlack v2.1
[07:32] <bazhang> Yum-aWay, disable that script
[07:32] <Sinanthiel> I have an ASUS laptop that died just this last week... :(
[07:32] <justin_> Losha: no, I did not. I already have the openchrome drivers, it just seems I can't configure my xserver to actually use them in any fashion.
[07:33] <ark3qqq> Can anyone suggest (the hardware for) a small laptop (but not a netbook) that can run Linux well? What sort of discrete graphics, primarily.
[07:33] <Kaze> can I get rid of compizconfig without having any ill effects on OS ?
[07:33] <Sinanthiel> And it's 3 months past warranty
[07:33] <bazhang> Kaze, of course
[07:33] <CircuitBug> is any one using a mirodia webcam.....
[07:33] <Addison> I really could you a walk through or a web site or anything else on how to extract that file to an ext2 partition on my memory card if anyone is kind enough to respond.
[07:33] <Losha> justin_: try the edits suggested in section 3 of that doc...
[07:34] <nerd> Failed to connect stream: To Large<----I get this while trying to  play ANYTHING
[07:34] <sp0spo> do any of you use two audio output devicdes at the same time?
[07:34] <justin_> Losha: I do not know how to open that document and remain connected to IRC from the command line.
[07:34] <Addison> Crap.    I should have come here another time when I'm not having a beer.  :)
[07:34] <Sinanthiel> Mmmmm beer
[07:34] <justin_> Losha: ctrl-alt-f2 bring me to a blinking dot that does nothing.
[07:34] <rickfisher> justin_ I hate video on Ubuntu! Always a pain with my Dual screen desktop.
[07:35] <Losha> justin_: tricky. Can you background the irc program temporarily using ctrl-Z and the fg command?
[07:35] <Addison> Actually, it's more like a keg of beer and a snorkel.  *lol*
[07:35] <justin_> Losha: I do not have access to a command prompt inside of irssi.
[07:35] <Sinanthiel> lol
[07:35] <friendforall> ubottu, Can you see my pm please?
[07:35] <Sinanthiel> I love brown hazelnut nectar beer by Rogue breweries
[07:36] <justin_> Ok, I am gonna try surfing the web in elinks for a solution.
[07:36] <Losha> justin_: then you need to write whatever is needed down on a piece of paper using a pencil. Sometimes the old methods really do work best...
[07:36] <Addison> Okay.  Last time posting this request.  If not, I'll find a better IRC channel, like #nethack to help me out.  *lol*
[07:36] <Addison> http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=629252&postcount=162
[07:36] <friendforall> ubottu, Can you see my pm please?
[07:37] <bazhang> friendforall, yes she saw it.
[07:38] <Threetimes> I have problems compiling flightgear from svn on Ubuntu 9.04: http://pastebin.com/xrevsUzy
[07:38] <nerd> got sound...YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:40] <Raging_Mac_User> Morning dears. :3
[07:42] <Raging_Mac_User> Lol. D:
[07:42] <rautamiekka> Since I am running Ubuntu Server (9.10 x64) and the "/boot/grub/menu.lst" doesn't exist when I'd need to alter the boot parameters, am I supposed to create the file myself or will I always have to bring up the GRUB boot menu to edit them ?
[07:43] <geirha> rautamiekka: You likely have grub2; you edit files in /etc/grub.d/ instead.
[07:44] <Threetimes> !grub2 | rautamiekka
[07:44] <rautamiekka> geirha: Now that you mention it, yes I do have GRUB2. I'll check up that folder once I get home. Thanks :)
[07:44] <rautamiekka> And thanks for Threetimes for the link
[07:45] <ennui> is there a difference between a 'netbook' and a 'mini laptop'?
[07:45] <Lame_Has> hello Mac users :D
[07:45] <Raging_Mac_User> Troll! D:
[07:45] <Threetimes> ennui: it's all marketing and funny names. just look at the actual hardware inside :D
[07:46] <Raging_Mac_User> I quite enjoy the funny names. :3
[07:46] <ark3qqq> ennui: I'm not sure what you're looking for, but I want something more powerful than an Atom CPU and Intel GPU.
[07:46] <ark3qqq> ennui: In my mind, that makes what I want _not_ a netbook.
[07:47] <Drakonslayor> Hey guys, i want something like limewire except better cause limewire shits me... got any names for me?
[07:47] <Raging_Mac_User> Frostwire?
[07:48] <ark3qqq> eMule?
[07:48] <Threetimes> torrents (transmissionbt)?
[07:48] <Raging_Mac_User> That's nothing like Limewire.
[07:48] <Raging_Mac_User> D:
[07:48] <Drakonslayor> yeah love torrents... just not as easy to get music on them is all
[07:48] <Flannel> !piracy
[07:49] <Drakonslayor> oops sorry
[07:49] <Threetimes> torrents and other p2p-netrworks can be used for legal purposes, like spreading ubuntu :D
[07:49] <Drakonslayor> indeed they can... good thinking
[07:49] <Drakonslayor> lol
[07:50] <Threetimes> Just for the record: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt
[07:51] <Drakonslayor> haha... now now, don't be a smartass :P
[07:51] <ark3qqq> I assume Flannel was referring to the bit about obtaining music...
[07:52] <Threetimes> Free music does exist...
[07:53] <ark3qqq> Perhaps I should let Flannel speak for Flannel.
[07:53] <bazhang> lets take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[07:53] <Threetimes> I have problems compiling flightgear from svn on Ubuntu 9.04: http://pastebin.com/xrevsUzy
[07:54] <ark3qqq> Threetimes: Perhaps a dumb question, but do you have SimGear installed?
[07:55] <Threetimes> Do I need to install it prior to running the script? The script won't do that for me?
[07:55] <Ileden> Hi! I upgraded to Karmic, and otherwise ok, but when compiz is on my desktop is completely black (not even icons showing). How to fix/troubleshoot this?
[07:55] <ark3qqq> Threetimes: Right, you must install it first. The script is looking for a particular header file.
[07:56] <Threetimes> Okay, I'll try that
[07:56] <ark3qqq> Threetimes: Take a look at the last few "checking" lines in your paste.
[07:57] <Threetimes> Ok, what version should I install, I want flightgear 2, do I need simgear 2? Simgear 1 is in the repos...
[07:57] <DJ_HaMsTa> i need an image viewer close or similar to Windows Image viewer in ubuntu.
[07:57] <DJ_HaMsTa> one that i can use the shortcut keys to navigate though the image folders
[07:58] <ark3qqq> DJ_HaMsTa: qiv is pretty good. pqiv, also.
[07:58] <Ileden> DJ_HaMsTa: I'
[07:59] <Ileden> DJ_HaMsTa: I'm not familiar with Windows Image viewers, but gthumb and gqview are some image viewers with rather good features. More akin to Irfanview I'd assume, if you're familiar with that.
[08:00] <fehrp> hi all, 10.4 is cool... but... where do I go from here? :)
[08:00] <ark3qqq> Gentoo? :P
[08:00] <fehrp> What is the gnome-pdf-annotation tool? In KDE I used to use okular, which rocked
[08:00] <uofm49426> Quick question
[08:00] <ennui> ark3qqq: what type of processor would you prefer? and could you find it in a laptop with a 10 inch screen?
[08:00] <Threetimes> !ask | uofm49426:
[08:01] <ark3qqq> ennui: I'd be fine with a CULV or ULV intel chip, whatever they're called, but I'd prefer something like an i5. Problem with that, unfortunately, is then I'm stuck with an Intel graphics chip too.
[08:02] <uofm49426> you know the add/remove program in ubuntu/debian/xfce/ etc what is that programs command name
[08:03] <DJ_HaMsTa> uofm49426,  apt-get remove ?
[08:03] <arnaudmuhizi> Hi all, don't know whether this is the right place to ask this but I'm failing to have my tap interfaces being assigned IP addresses dynamically
[08:03] <Ileden> DJ_HaMsTa: nope, he means the graphical interface
[08:04] <uofm49426> no it didnt install im trying lubuntu
[08:04] <iceroot> uofm49426: synaptic
[08:04] <ark3qqq> ennui: Oh, I missed half your question. I don't want anything smaller than 11 inches anyhow. I think the Alienware M11 (or something like that) is as small as I'd want to go.
[08:04] <uofm49426> not synptic its not part of it
[08:04] <Azoff> any kernel/lirc devs arround that can check this issue? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lirc/+bug/570700
[08:04] <Ileden> uofm49426: I think you might mean software-center
[08:05] <uofm49426> i think so
[08:05] <Ileden> uofm49426: only there doesn't seem to be a packacge with that name... hmm...
[08:06] <Ileden> but that's the command-line anyhow
[08:06] <ennui> ark3qqq: do you want to power for gaming? or video playing/processing?
[08:06] <DJ_HaMsTa> lulbuntu lol
[08:06] <uofm49426> lubuntu
[08:07] <uofm49426> i want a all lxde desktop
[08:07] <ark3qqq> ennui: Gaming would be nice; for me that means dual-boot. More importantly I want to experiment with OpenCL (or equivalent) for financial applications. That's why I want decent CPU and discrete GPU.
[08:07] <Ileden> uofm49426: interesting. I hadn't heard of lubuntu before. What's the main advantage?
[08:08] <uofm49426> it like xfce but faster ligther yet
[08:08] <Ileden> uofm49426: sounds good.  In KDE I used to use  okular, which rocked
[08:10] <Ileden> uofm49426: that's not a disadvantage :)
[08:10] <uofm49426> i just hope the ati driver got better
[08:10] <uofm49426> i only have a xpress 1200
[08:11] <uofm49426> anyone know of a good better program then reconstructer
[08:12] <uofm49426> so i can make my own lxde live img
[08:13] <rickfisher> Does anyone know if there were changes in Nvidia xserver in 10.4? I asked on Ubuntu+1 but no answers
[08:14] <uofm49426> on 8.10 intrepid because ati 9.3 still better the one being worked on
[08:14] <beerskij> Anybody using the latest Spotify under Ubuntu/wine ?
[08:15] <Ileden> beerskij: yes
[08:15] <beerskij> Ileden, could you connect to your Facebook account through it?
[08:15] <Ileden> beerskij: or, well, what's the latest?
[08:15] <Ileden> beerskij: connect to facebook??
[08:15] <Ileden> huh?
[08:16] <beerskij> Ileden, it came out yesterday. incorporates social networking features
[08:16] <uofm49426> how long will it take for wrapper ati driver to be as good as one from ati
[08:16] <Ileden> beerskij: oh? shouldn't spotify autoupdate?
[08:16] <beerskij> Ileden, yeah but it usually tka
[08:16] <beerskij> ..takes a while to roll out to all users
[08:17] <iceroot> uofm49426: noone knows
[08:17] <Ileden> beerskij: hm, does the socmed incorporation work for only premium customers? I'm a non-paying user.
[08:18] <beerskij> Ileden, the idea is that you'll get a friends list to share playlists etc, using Facebook. However, I cant connect and I'm told it "uses an Internet Explorer component", which is why connecting using Wine doesnt work. what im looking for is adding some kind of IE support
[08:18] <beerskij> Ileden, should be for all i believe. check the homepage (im a premium user)
[08:18] <plouffe> where are the logs?
[08:19] <rww> !logs | plouffe
[08:19] <uofm49426> wish i would have got a cheap laptop with intel gma then ati
[08:19] <Ileden> beerskij: whoooooa?? play local files?! now it get's real interesting!
[08:19] <beerskij> Ileden, sure does :)
[08:19] <plouffe> nvm, I found them. /var/logs
[08:19] <Ileden> hm, maybe not the best channel for Spotify chat tho :)
[08:19] <destroit> #ubuntu-es
[08:20] <beerskij> Ileden, true. do you know of any official chan? or maybe there is a Wine channel..
[08:20] <uofm49426> i will never buy amd or ati laptops ever again
[08:20] <Ileden> beerskij: i'll try it with wine and let you know.
[08:21] <beerskij> Ileden, thank you!
[08:22] <Ileden> I have encountered a known bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/421334) - should I proceed to help the community somehow?
[08:22] <overmacht> !seen DrWillis
[08:23] <rickfisher> I haz cheesburger!
[08:23] <uofm49426> software-center good idea thankyou ILeden
[08:23] <Flannel> Ileden: click the icon next to "Does this bug affect you?" at the top
[08:23] <rww> Ileden: the bug you linked is a duplicate. You should be paying attention to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/444139 instead
[08:24] <uofm49426> works great
[08:24] <uofm49426> need my fret on fire couldnt find it in syp
[08:25] <Ileden> rww: thanks. I really should learn to use launchpad someday...
[08:25] <rww> uofm49426: the package name is "fretsonfire", it's in the universe repository
[08:26] <Ileden> uofm49426: yuo're welcome :)
[08:26] <luis__> hello everybody
[08:27] <virus> welcome humanity
[08:27] <uofm49426> and other things it nice just being able to type fret and it all come up
[08:28] <uofm49426> or super finding suppertux
[08:28] <uofm49426> or super finding supertux
[08:29] <uofm49426> now ill see if the ati driver can handle xbmc next
[08:30] <uofm49426> or boxee
[08:31] <beerskij> Ileden, if you're running into the same problem, i found something that MIGHT work: winetricks adding ie7 support
[08:31] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[08:31] <Ileden> beerskij: How do I know if it's updated? I tried installing the new version but no difference...
[08:31] <beerskij> Ileden, i got past the login but  now i seem stuck trying to recieve information, it's just loading
[08:32] <piju> netsplit?
[08:32] <PigFlu> what is mode -j?
[08:32] <beerskij> Ileden, it looks a lot different. I first uninstalled the old spotify, then simply ran the new installer with Wine (had to make the new file executable first)
[08:34] <Ileden> beerskij: hmm, i'll try uninstall/install instead of reinstall...
[08:35] <Kriss3d> Morning everyone. I got a question: will the new 10.04 ubuntu be upgradable from 9.10 ?
[08:36] <DJones> Kriss3d: Yes it will
[08:36] <Kriss3d> awsome..
[08:36] <Ileden> Kriss3d: I think all sequential Ubuntu releases will be upgradeable.
[08:36] <rww> Kriss3d: yes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LucidUpgrades after release
[08:36] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[08:37] <ShapeShifter499> what is cautious-launcher? its a new thing that poped up when I went to d-load itunes 9 in attempt to get it working in wine
[08:37] <Kriss3d> well i mean. i helped my otherwise all MAC fanboy uncle get a pc laptop and install 9.10 koala.. he likes it so far.. so i can somhow upgrade that to 10.04 without him having to reinstall the whole enchilada ?
[08:37] <Ileden> beerskij: nope, ain't upgradin for me. :( Oh well, have to wait untill it gets rolled for my account then I guess.
[08:37] <beerskij> Ileden, that's weird :S
[08:38] <Kriss3d> looks like a floodbot
[08:38] <JoshuaL> !netsplit
[08:38] <rickfisher> wow we are back to 1427
[08:38] <rickfisher> 1428
[08:38] <Shambat> what is the fastest and easiest way to crack WEP in ubuntu? I am using it to show my boss how terrible it is :)
[08:39] <rickfisher> WEP can't be cracked
[08:39] <Shambat> lol
[08:39] <PigFlu> lolwut
[08:39] <Kriss3d> rickfisher,  really ? what centry do you live in ?
[08:40] <Kriss3d> Shambat,  tell your boss it can be done in 2-3 minutes.
[08:40] <ShapeShifter499> lmao
[08:40] <Kriss3d> if there is a client on surfing youtube or somthing
[08:40] <Kriss3d> just tell him to look up wep crack on google.
[08:40] <Shambat> Kriss3d: yes ... but I want to show him .... most effective
[08:40] <nubuntu> sdf
[08:40] <Kriss3d> Shambat,  aircrack-ng
[08:40] <Shambat> Kriss3d: is there some guide I can use for that?
[08:40] <rickfisher> Ok I am feeling real stupid tonight so plz help me through this. Did Sudo nvidia-xconfig and I get this. Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf".
[08:40] <rickfisher> Backed up file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' as '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'
[08:40] <rickfisher> New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[08:40] <rickfisher>
[08:40] <rww> Shambat: aircrack-ng would be one that can do it, but I've never used it and don't know how to
[08:41] <nubuntu> hi all
[08:41] <Shambat> rww: ok thx
[08:41] <Ileden> beerskij: well, I maybe they just want to control the speed users get the new release, to prevent any huge "new version killed spotify for all users" mistakes
[08:41] <Kriss3d> there are nice guides on the official aircrack-ng site
[08:41] <rickfisher> Shambat, we won't help you break the law. That's why wep can't be cracked
[08:42] <rww> lol
[08:42] <Kriss3d> rickfisher,  well breaking wep isnt illegal.. not if you got the permission from the network owner
[08:42] <rickfisher> Kriss3d, I'm just goofing this guy.
[08:42] <Kriss3d> ah ok.. didnt see that comming
[08:42] <Ileden> beerskij: i wish buying would also work with the new version - I can't click on the "agree to terms" button. would make quite a bit of sense they would fix that :)
[08:43] <Ileden> beerskij: then again, wine isn't really their priority :)
[08:43] <fehrp> has anyone working desktop widgets in ubuntu?
[08:43] <beerskij> Ileden, exactly. I guess any linus issues is disregarded by the Spotify team since there's no official support for i
[08:43] <beerskij> it
[08:44] <beerskij> linux*
[08:44] <Lunks> Hi, I'd like to get some information about ACL on Linux. I know I have to use 'acl' on the file systems I want to use it, but that's about it. Can anyone get me some further information/link/anything?
[08:45] <rickfisher> stuck on nvidia still
[08:45] <Kriss3d> Btw.. Have anyone had any experiences with trying to access a MS access 2003 MDB file ? It seems that installing MS office 2003 and run it in wine isnt capable of opening a mdb file.. but OO cant open those files either
[08:47] <George_E> 1 more day 'till 10.04!
[08:47] <fehrp> George_E: you can already download it
[08:48] <fehrp> I did, it's cool :)
[08:48] <George_E> The production ISO?
[08:49] <Kriss3d> Im hoping for the GEM issue being fixed
[08:50] <Kriss3d> that graphic error is quite bad so hopfully it gets fixed fast
[08:51] <rickfisher> WOW everything is fixed in this new 10.4 release! Amazing.
[08:51] <rickfisher> NVIDIA X driver. what to do?
[08:51] <iceroot> rickfisher: #ubuntu+1
[08:51] <Zta-at-work> Will Ubuntu 10.04 have Firefox 3.6?  It's not mentioned in the overview.
[08:51] <iceroot> Zta-at-work: #ubuntu+1
[08:52] <Zta-at-work> ah
[08:52] <haux> I just reinstalled Ubuntu and and updated 10.04. The volume icon is gone from the top bar... and I can't for the life of me figure out why or how to bring that back
[08:52] <iceroot> haux: #ubuntu+1
[08:52] <haux> What is this channel for?
[08:52] <iceroot> haux: for 10.04
[08:52] <iceroot> haux: #ubuntu+1 = 10.04  this channel for all stable-releases
[08:53] <haux> ah
[08:53] <nexus6__> hi
[08:53] <Walrus23> hello there
[08:53] <nexus6__> well i want to buy a new computer for my ubuntu
[08:54] <Ytaews> wehn can 10.04
[08:54] <nexus6__> and i dont know if i shall buy the new amd 6 core or and intel 4 core...
[08:54] <Kriss3d> personally id go for a intell type
[08:54] <nexus6__> and why?
[08:54] <Kriss3d> but thats just me i guess
[08:55] <Kriss3d> just had better experiences with intel
[08:55] <nexus6__> so you already had bad expirience with AMD ?
[08:55] <Kriss3d> well i see the AMD better suitable for gaming really
[08:56] <Kriss3d> and AMD has more heat issues
[08:56] <itilious> is there something special i need to do to ubuntu to get my keyboard's num pad to work as numbers?
[08:56] <uofm49426> and the own ati and ati can suck it
[08:56] <Ytaews> Wehn can 10.04?
[08:56] <edvinas> Hi, I have been using ubuntu (karmic) the last week and it has been working fine until recently when i tried to boot up. Right after the boot screen (with logo) I get a black screen and nothing happens...  No effect with any other combination I tried.
[08:58] <LordDragon> i used the ubuntu's "update manager"
[08:58] <LordDragon> it installed everything
[08:58] <Kriss3d> Ill take Nvidia over ATI any day.. plus you get some nice features with Nvidia.. such as assisted GPU power usable for.. well.. network use
[08:59] <rickfisher> OMG 10.4 just fixed my marriage!
[08:59] <Walrus23> i'll brb on a more stable machine to ask my question
[08:59] <LordDragon> but when i select .20 in the grub menu it says "you must load a kernel first" or some where thing like that
[08:59] <LordDragon> where = weird
[08:59] <LordDragon> did something go wrong in the update process?
[09:00] <LordDragon> is there a way to manually reinstall the latest kernel ?
[09:00] <edvinas> rickfisher: I am thinking it has something to do with my graphics, its an intel 950gm. Is there anything i can do to diagnose it?
[09:02] <rickfisher> edvinas, do you speak German?
[09:02] <edvinas> just a little :)
[09:03] <rickfisher> edvinas, what language do Austrians speak?
[09:03] <edvinas> moved to austria a couple months ago
[09:03] <edvinas> German, but I am from South Africa
[09:03] <rickfisher> edvinas, OK just noisy
[09:04] <lucid_lynx> hi all. what is tje release time of Lucid? and timezone?
[09:04] <nexus6__> austria is "ein sehr schönes land"
[09:04] <rickfisher> edvinas, So back to Ubuntu
[09:04] <uofm49426> hey anyone know how to stop this ata3 not ready  on ubuntu
[09:04] <rickfisher> nexus6__, Icecreamland?
[09:04] <rickfisher> lol
[09:04] <lucid_lynx> release time of Lucid? and timezone?
[09:04] <rickfisher> I am currently Lucid
[09:04] <uofm49426> reset
[09:04] <edvinas> rickfisher, i havnt been able to find much online, seem to be quite stuck
[09:05] <edvinas> i wish i new more about linux
[09:05] <rickfisher> edvinas, Have you touched any keys while the screen is black?
[09:05] <rickfisher> edvinas, you can tap SHIFT to get a menu while booting
[09:06] <LordDragon> how can i unsinstall a kernel and reinstall it?
[09:06] <edvinas> rickfisher, I tried random keys but after the bootscreen logo everything seems to stop, the hd light goes off too
[09:06] <rickfisher> edvinas, But I find that when my Ubuntu is borked up I get a seemingly blank screen but when I touch a key it shows me error messages.
[09:06] <edvinas> rickfisher, i can restart and give it a try, not sure if i tried shit
[09:06] <uofm49426> (ata 3.00 drdy err) ata 3 not ready reset  how to stop this
[09:07] <rickfisher> edvinas, laptop right?
[09:07] <edvinas> yes, an old acer
[09:07] <rickfisher> edv
[09:07] <rickfisher> edvinas, We will wait for you to reboot
[09:08] <edvinas> great, thank you. brb
[09:08] <rickfisher> Ok everybody HIDE!
[09:08] <rickfisher> heheeh jajaja
[09:08] <iceroot> rickfisher: you have a support-question?
[09:08] <rickfisher> soooo no one will help me with Nvidia
[09:09] <rickfisher> iceroot, been asking the same one for 6 hours
[09:09] <iceroot> rickfisher: hm, cant find a detailed question with error-messages and so on
[09:10] <nmvictor> how do i redirect both error messages and standard messaged to /dev/null?
[09:10] <Walrus23> that's more like it
[09:10] <Walrus23> stupid laptop
[09:11] <Walrus23> anyway, i wanted to know why KDE hasnt loaded the networking drivers (or much at all) while GDE works fine?
[09:11] <iceroot> nmvictor: foo > /dev/null 2>&1
[09:11] <nmvictor> was it something like 1>&2/dev/null, i lost
[09:12] <Walrus23> as i said earlier i let it restart before it had finished installing stuff
[09:12] <nmvictor> iceroot: ooh, thanks
[09:12] <Walrus23> should i just count my losses and rebuild or is this salvageable?
[09:13] <nexus6__> is there a irc channel for computer hardware?
[09:13] <rickfisher> How do you restart x server?
[09:13] <iceroot> nexus6__: ##hardware
[09:14] <iceroot> rickfisher: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[09:14] <Younder> hi all
[09:15] <nexus6__> i need to be invited to join hardware ?!
[09:15] <iceroot> nexus6__: i guess #freenode will help you
[09:15] <geekphreak> hello all
[09:16] <edvinas> rickfisher: I am back, but no luck. I literally tried every key on the keyboard. The only thing that has any effect is ctrl+alt+del. If i press the caps lock key the light for it does not change.
[09:17] <andruk> anybody know if nmcli is coming to lucid?
[09:17] <Walrus23> lol @ nexus6__ would i be of any help (i am a BCIS undergraduate, i may be knowledgeable) what's your question?
[09:17] <piju> :-)
[09:18] <geekphreak> edvinas: what are you trying?
[09:19] <edvinas> geekphreak: for a reason unknown, after the bootscreen logo my screen goes black and the laptop becomes unresponsive.
[09:19] <alessandro_> ciao a tutti non riesco a far funzionare la scheda audio in xubuntu
[09:20] <DJones> !it | alessandro_
[09:20] <geekphreak> alessandro_: spanish?
[09:20] <geekphreak> oh ok
[09:20] <Ileden> Hmm, lucid will apparently be released tomorrow, but is there some specific time that release will happen?
[09:20] <geekphreak> edvinas: what about in resuce mode?
[09:20] <edvinas> geekphreak: everythin was working fine yesterday, then i rebooted into winxp (dual boot) and now i get this screen.
[09:20] <alessandro_> my audio card don 't work on xubuntu
[09:20] <Ileden> (just curious :) )
[09:21] <edvinas> that works fine and i get into terminal (?) but i know very little about using rescue mode.
[09:21] <BVHJWE> DE JÖN
[09:21] <edvinas> geekphreak: if you have any suggestions I will give it a shot.
[09:22] <geekphreak> edvinas: i would run disable some services i dont need in startup, prob. run fsck
[09:22] <BVHJWE> waldemar !!
[09:22] <edvinas> Okay, so i just startup into rescue mode and run fsck?
[09:23] <geekphreak> do you have any servers running edvinas ? sshd , apache, sendmail and alll?
[09:24] <geekphreak> edvinas: also can you try 1 more thing for me?
[09:24] <edvinas> geekphreak: No servers yet, only a few apps through apt-get. I installed wine 1.1.7 yesterday.  Thanks so much for your help. brb.
[09:26] <geekphreak> edvinas: ifnot reboot system sudo apt-get install rcconf , disable wine in rcconf , if you seee it, run fsck , reboot and cross your fingers
[09:26] <geekphreak> no worries
[09:26] <edvinas> geekphreak: okay, thanks again. will let you know how it went.
[09:27] <geekphreak> ok
[09:29] <BVHJWE> hallo
[09:30] <BVHJWE> im so horny
[09:31] <geekphreak> BVHJWE: this is  a ubuntu support room , you are in wrong room !
[09:31] <geekphreak> nevermind
[09:34] <stevecam> geekphreak, ubuntu makes me so horny
[09:35] <itilious> why does the computer janitor in karmic say that my vbox installation needs to be removed as junk?
[09:35] <Oer> be carefull with janitor ..
[09:36] <BVHJWE> im so horny
[09:36] <itilious> i see that now, i dont think ill ever be using that
[09:36] <BVHJWE> i am a big tited hot girl
[09:36] <Ileden> itilious: soudns like an opinion ;)
[09:36] <itilious> or any time soon lol
[09:36] <BVHJWE> 18 years old
[09:36] <itilious> is there any other way to to clean out my wine installation?
[09:36] <BVHJWE> is here someone to fuck?
[09:36] <DJones> BVHJWE: This is a support room for Ubuntu, its not a general chatroom
[09:36] <DJones> !ops | BVHJWE
[09:36] <geekphreak> itilious: purge?
[09:37] <itilious> i used it to "install" itunes and all it did was mess up even my ubuntu system further
[09:37] <geekphreak> itilious: you want to uninstall wine?
[09:37] <itilious> geekphreak, do i purge wine specifically or is there a "system" purge i can do to clean out files i hope are just real junk installation/uninstallations
[09:38] <itilious> geekphreak, yes, i already checked off the wine entrys in synnaptic manager and checked for complete removal
[09:38] <geekphreak> itilious: afaik there is nothing like system purge, i would just purge wine installation
[09:38] <kpkc> !lucid
[09:38] <itilious> geekphreak, but wine is still under my list of programs
[09:38] <geekphreak> itilious: sudo apt-get remove --purge wine
[09:38] <geekphreak> or synaptic as you want it :)
[09:39] <Davide_377> salve
[09:39] <itilious> it ran the uninstallation in snaptic but its still there as well as after i ran the purge command
[09:39] <Manfred-> itilious: do you mean there is an empty entry of wine in your menu ?
[09:39] <itilious> no, its still there as well as the two apps i installed
[09:40] <itilious> utorrent 2.0.1 and itunes
[09:40] <Nataniel_PL> does anybody know where google chrome has its files on ubutnu?
[09:40] <itilious> itunes is what completely screwed things up, i even have like 15 entrys in my program list in ubuntu for wine
[09:40] <JoshuaL> Nataniel_PL, ~/.config/google-chrome
[09:41] <Nataniel_PL> Thx
[09:41] <Ileden> itilious: if ~/.wine/ is where wine stores most of the stuff I think. I would guess purge removes that too, but you might want to check that too.
[09:42] <nmvictor> i am writing a script to install nagios, i pasted it [just the written part] in http://paste2.org/get/797840, executng the script echos the message " [26: illegal number:", anyhelp please?
[09:45] <Nataniel_PL> actually i'm trying to backup my session (tabs) so i could reinstall system, but i can't find files it was backupes to...
[09:46] <itilious> how can i uninstall a program that shows uninstalled in the software manager?
[09:46] <Walrus23> nmvictor nagios is easy enough to install by hand, why bother with scripts in the first place?
[09:46] <geekphreak> itilious: wine still there?
[09:46] <Walrus23> itilious how did this appliocation install?
[09:46] <itilious> its not checked off in the synaptic manager either, or anything close to wine
[09:47] <itilious> through the software center
[09:47] <Walrus23> try: sudo apt-get purge wine
[09:47] <itilious> "ubuntu software center" but i remeved it with the synaptic manager for complete removal
[09:47] <stevecam> 1 more day :-D
[09:47] <Walrus23> try this itilious: sudo apt-get purge wine
[09:48] <edvinas> geekphreak: I can't seem to run startx/fsck from recovery mode. Do I need to go into another shell cus I dont see the commands help. Sorry if I am being obtuse, not very good at the whole terminal thing yet.
[09:48] <nmvictor> stevecam: to ubuntu right?
[09:48] <itilious> Walrus23, ran it and its still in the programs list
[09:48] <geekphreak> edvinas: startx did not work too?
[09:48] <stevecam> yep
[09:48] <clemyeats> itilious: maybe it's just the menus that are still there?
[09:48] <clemyeats> itilious: wine can add menu items to your home dir....
[09:48] <edvinas> geekphreak: No, it says command not found.
[09:48] <clemyeats> itilious: which menu do you use?
[09:48] <stevecam> itilious, are you trying to remove the program that was installed in wine or wine itself?
[09:49] <nmvictor> stevecam: to Lucid right?
[09:49] <geekphreak> edvinas: huh really, ?? did you uninstall anything?
[09:49] <itilious> but when i try to set torrent files to permanently associate to another client other than utorrent i dont even see my other target choice
[09:49] <stevecam> nmvictor, yes
[09:49] <itilious> stevecam, both
[09:49] <itilious> I see TONS of "a wine application" listings in the program list menu for file association
[09:49] <stevecam> itilious, well, dont forget that there are files in your home directory in a folder called .wine
[09:50] <itilious> stevecam, i manually deleted them
[09:50] <clemyeats> itilious: sudo apt-get remove --purge wine; rm -rf ~/.wine
[09:50] <dugger5688> Sometimes it takes awhile for the wine to clear out of the menu
[09:50] <edvinas> geekphreak: I noticed I get some errors in recovery mode when somethign similiar to 'trying to mount from disk'is run.
[09:51] <dugger5688> That too, I came back after a few hours last time I removed wine and they were magically gone.
[09:51] <nmvictor> stevecam: I can wait to see Lucid, I can just smell goog things though its not out yet, its gonna rock like jaunty, I liked jaunty more than karmic,i have never known why
[09:51] <clemyeats> itilious: for the menus, "find ~ | grep .desktop" will give you a list of personal menu items
[09:51] <stevecam> itilious, but i see the problem, this looks like it was done by a program that is not related to the installer, you are going to have to do this by hand
[09:51] <nmvictor> i am writing a script to install nagios, i pasted it [just the written part] in http://paste2.org/get/797840, executng the script echos the message " [26: illegal number:", anyhelp please?
[09:51] <geekphreak> edvinas: full message would be nice , did you uninstall anything or run an update or system crashed anything?
[09:51] <stevecam> nmvictor, i didnt notice much of a difference with the last upgrade
[09:52] <stevecam> except that firefox 3.5 was terrible
[09:52] <nmvictor> stevecam: i only moved to it because the kernel version in jaunty was just too backwards
[09:53] <dugger5688> stevecam: lol
[09:53] <stevecam> and try reporting problems with 3.5 in firefox, they like to pretend that they dont exist
[09:54] <stevecam> "its not slower, its much faster"
[09:54] <edvinas> geekphreak: No, it was a normal shutdown. But the error showing (and its long one) 'Failed to read block at offset 10583' and ÉXT4-fs (sda6): error loading journal'.
[09:54] <stevecam> "i find it crashes less"
[09:54] <itilious> stevecam, so i just manually delete the .desktop files the are associated with wine and i'm good?
[09:55] <geekphreak> edvinas: yup thats error alright
[09:55] <edvinas> geekphreak: I can retype more of it, which parts are useful to you?
[09:55] <itilious> clemyeats, thanks for the command :)
[09:55] <clemyeats> itilious: you're welcome.
[09:55] <edvinas> geekphreak: Okay, progress at least. Any chance of recovering?
[09:55] <stevecam> itilious, i don't know, i would help you out with this but i have to leave in 5 minutes
[09:56] <stevecam> but i can see why removing wine wouldnt help
[09:56] <clemyeats> itilious: I usually explain commands when I give them.. I don't like throwing them at people like that, but this channel is extremely busy ;)
[09:56] <EugeneKay> Blindingly annoying question everybody has been asking(and will be for a bit yet) - what is the exact time for the "General Availability" of 10.04?
[09:56] <geekphreak> edvinas: i would boot the system with live cd at this time , and run  fsck if possible
[09:56] <geekphreak> edvinas: any important data on drive?
[09:57] <noobik> Hello :)
[09:58] <edvinas> geekphreak: Okay, will try that. Not really much important stuff. This has happened to me beofre (twice) and I just did a reinstall both times. But reinstalling the os twice a week is a bit much so figured I would try fixing it.
[09:58] <edvinas> geekphreak: gonna try the livecd and fsck idea.
[09:58] <geekphreak> edvinas: fixing is a good idea, you learn something :)
[09:58] <noobik> i have one question but dont know if i can ask here.... ive been searching google but no solid results atm...
[09:59] <noobik> im trying to check my ATI temperature over SSH but it's always giving my this error
[09:59] <itilious> clemyeats, i'm breaking it down right now cuz it completely fixed what I've been frustrated with
[09:59] <noobik> ERROR - X needs to be running to perform ATI Overdrive(TM) commands
[09:59] <itilious> i learned my lesson, dont even try to emulate windows, just break free :)
[09:59] <noobik> is there a way to solve this?
[10:00] <itilious> thanks for your help everyone
[10:00] <clemyeats> itilious: ok, let me know if you want help with understanding it.
[10:00] <geekphreak> itilious: good luck buddy :)
[10:00] <edvinas> geekphreak: Apart from this 'issue' i am really loving ubuntu. Working on my websites and having virtual envs with a proper terminal is awesome...
[10:00] <geekphreak> edvinas: its a rock solid system , secure fast :)
[10:02] <geekphreak> itilious:  why did you want itunes on ubuntu, its such a slow application!!
[10:02] <edvinas> geekphreak: livecd is doing its thing. thanks for taking your time to help me out. its highly appreciated.
[10:03] <geekphreak> edvinas: no worries good luck mate
[10:05] <maja87> hi
[10:05] <ray_> Hello, I have some knowledge about configuring bind, but I have a special question. I know about SplitDNS but exactly this is my problem. I have domain.local in our lan and domain.com for the internet. Now I need to resolve xxx.domain.com inside the lan to an internal IP, on the Internet it needs to resolve to an extrenal IP. The problem is that I have no controll over the external DNS Server, so I can not setup a split dns easily because I
[10:05] <ray_> would have to monitor the external DNS and that's not easy as I also do not have transfer capabilietes. Is there a way to tell bind to be authoritiv for xxx.domain.com only? Or can I tell bind to be authoritive for domain.com, but only answer xxx.domain.com directly and let him forward questions regarding the other hosts to the real dns server?
[10:05] <vernr> !hi | maja87
[10:05] <itilious> geekphreak, it def is i'm using banshee so far and i love it compared to itunes
[10:06] <noobik> help anyone?
[10:07] <wildbat> !ask | noobik
[10:09] <noobik> wildbat -> i have already made the question but if u didn't get it i'll ask again
[10:10] <ray_> hrm, am I in the ubuntu server channel?
[10:10] <wildbat> "If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)"
[10:10] <geekphreak> ray_: i think it is #ubuntu-server
[10:10] <ray_> ah, sorry guys, wrong channel
[10:10] <man8> hi
[10:10] <wildbat> noobik, try google a bit while waiting
[10:11] <lxsysweb> !hi | man8
[10:11] <noobik> wildbat : oh u mean't that part... i've been searching google but no successful results came up... that's why i came here
[10:12] <man8> thanks
[10:13] <geekphreak> edvinas: how is it coming?
[10:13] <maja87> can i talk with 10.04 developers?
[10:14] <Smitty0> ldfront.net
[10:14] <wildbat> noobik, hmm may be you can try a 'sensors' from repos~ see it that can read th card temp ~ not sure thou
[10:15] <noobik> already tried... it only readed the MB temp, CPU temp, and the volts...
[10:15] <koshari> how do you enable plymouth
[10:16] <wildbat> noobik, :< /comfort ~
[10:16] <wildbat> !lucid | maja87
[10:16] <geekphreak> koshari: you can use rcconf    to enable plymouth >> sudo apt-gt install rcconf , then sudo rcconf
[10:17] <maja87> wildbat: thx
[10:17] <geekphreak> koshari: you can also do sudo serivce plymouth start
[10:17] <geekphreak> service*
[10:18] <koshari> geekphreak it says its running but there are no animations at boot?
[10:18] <geekphreak> hmm
[10:19] <twiztid> can someone help with some video streaming issues ive been having?
[10:19] <mmica> hey ;]
[10:21] <Kabz> hi I've a problem to mount an iso
[10:21] <Kabz> Can someone help me ?
[10:21] <geekphreak> Kabz: as in?
[10:21] <betamine> Kabz: mount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /path/to/mount/point
[10:22] <twiztid> specifically firefox, and even swiftfox (amd semperon build) laggs with video streaming and because ive flawlessly installed karmic on two seperate pc's im wondering what my setup is failing at?
[10:22] <Kabz> Thx <betamine>
[10:23] <FourDollars> Hi All.
[10:23] <FourDollars> $ LANG=C sudo apt-file update
[10:23] <FourDollars> W: Don't know how to handle https: Bad file descriptor
[10:23] <FourDollars> on karmic
[10:23] <FourDollars> But 'apt-transport-https' has be installed.
[10:23] <FloodBot4> FourDollars: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:24] <FourDollars> Does anyone know how to solve this?
[10:26] <lxsysweb> I'm having issues with my ATI radeon Xpress 1150 (renames 200 series) in the form of drivers. Meh system's a bit of a mess, and I don't quite understand the way the ATI drivers work, and fglrx and all the other stuff. Anybody able to help?
[10:26] <zvacet> lxsysweb:di you tried to install driver from system>admin>softwaresources
[10:27] <supasteri> im in south africa. any ideas on exactly what time lucid will be available for download?
[10:27] <lxsysweb> zvacet: I don't quite understand, isn't that the repository configuration?
[10:27] <zvacet> lxsysweb:  sorry it is system>admin>hardware drivers
[10:28] <overmacht> supasteri; wait for 1 day.
[10:28] <lxsysweb> zvacet: yeah, doesn't show up there at all, only the wireless drivers.
[10:29] <zvacet> lxsysweb: see if https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI can help you
[10:29] <lxsysweb> zvacet: ok thanks, i'll take a look
[10:31] <supasteri> any news on gma500 support with lucid?
[10:33] <Sjimmie> supasteri: #ubuntu+1
[10:34] <geekphreak> edvinas: still there?
[10:35] <dreamon> #ubuntu+1
[10:36] <xp> s.a
[10:40] <jakemills> why is it so hard to dd an iso to boot from on a usb? i used "dd if=/place/file.iso of=/dev/sdb" and the thing won't boot. any ideas as to why not?
[10:42] <wijnand> Could anyone tell me how I can put entries from the Places menu (specifically, a bookmark for a smb server) on the Desktop?
[10:44] <jakemills> wijnand, you should just be able to click and drag it onto the desktop
[10:44] <wijnand> jakemills: I tried that
[10:44] <betamine> jakemills: I think you need to install syslinux on the usb first
[10:45] <wijnand> it says "File doesn't exist", jakemills
[10:45] <betamine> jakemills: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Putting_installation_media_on_a_USB_key#Old_Method_from_ISO.2C_deprecated
[10:46] <red2kic> wijnand: Right-click on the Desktop. Create Launcher. Type: Location and Command: "sftp://<user>@<ip>/"
[10:46] <red2kic> wijnand: Meh. Just change sftp with your smb path.
[10:47] <geekphreak> red2kic: hello sir
[10:47] <meowbuntu> !ufash
[10:47] <wijnand> red2kic: ahh thanks, let's try that!
[10:47] <red2kic> geekphreak: muhaha! hello sir too.
[10:48] <wijnand> red2kic: thanks that did the trick!
[10:48] <red2kic> jakemills: You did this in root or you append sudo for dd?
[10:48] <red2kic> wijnand: Great. :)
[10:49] <ercani> hi
[10:49] <ercani> can I boot ubuntu from usb stick ?
[10:49] <twiztid> could someone pleas help me with some video streaming issues ive been having?
[10:49] <red2kic> ercani: Yes.
[10:50] <ercani> it will be pc specific ? or can run in various pc ?
[10:50] <red2kic> !usb | ercani
[10:50] <geekphreak> ercani: anny
[10:50] <E-Man> test
[10:50] <ercani> how will recognize different drivers if I boot from different pc ?
[10:50] <tapio> Did they change the default search engine back from yahoo to google again?
[10:51] <rww> tapio: yes
[10:51] <red2kic> ercani: ANY (exempting PC incapable of booting from removable drive)
[10:51] <geekphreak> tapio: though it was still yahoo
[10:51] <rww> geekphreak: no
[10:51] <geekphreak> ok
[10:52] <geekphreak> rww: thank you :p
[10:52] <twiztid> any suggestions for choppy video streaming in firefox AND even swiftfox built for my Semperon? compiz is flawless but cant watch simple online video?
[10:52] <tapio> Why did they change it back to google? Because users didn't like yahoo ?
[10:54] <ercani> if I install ubuntu to my usb stick and use it in my laptop then if I move usb to dekstop then it will recognize drivers (audio,graphic) automatically ?
[10:54] <red2kic> ercani: Don't enable any hardware drivers in Hardware Drivers (I think).
[10:54] <bouma> hey, could i discuss what filesystem might  be appropriate for me for a moment ?
[10:54] <twiztid> hello? does anyone have any suggestions on why viseo streaming is so choppy?
[10:54] <twiztid> video*
[10:55] <ubuntu-usr> hi all
[10:55] <geekphreak> ercani: best option try it and see :d
[10:55] <tapio> twiztid: Flash?
[10:55] <bouma> im formating a new 1TB, and im wondering, is ext4 totally safe and sussed out these days?
[10:55] <red2kic> ercani: That's the idea. Just try it. (Don't enable drivers). :)
[10:55] <ercani> red2kic: because I want to make dual boot with windows and ubuntu in a usb stick. I want to install visual studio in xp side
[10:55] <twiztid> tapio: adobe 10
[10:55] <richthegeek> hello
[10:55] <red2kic> bouma: I use ext4 on my 2TB. Seems fine to me.
[10:55] <ercani> red2kic:  alsa will work ? I need at least sound driver
[10:56] <richthegeek> hello?
[10:56] <bazhang> yes
[10:56] <geekphreak> ercani: win/ lin on usb dual boot hmmmmm?
[10:56] <red2kic> ercani: Experiment. I can't answer for everything.
[10:56] <ubuntu-usr> i have olways give password when my ubuntu is shutdown. i wan't do it. what i should do?
[10:56] <ercani> yes
[10:56] <geekphreak> ercani: stay with one, that is ubuntu :
[10:57] <ubuntu-usr> sorry olways=always
[10:57] <red2kic> !sudo | ubuntu-usr
[10:58] <ercani> geekphreak: I think firstly I need to install windows to usb as g: or f: drive then ubuntu
[10:58] <red2kic> ubuntu-usr: You want "sudo visudo" -- You're looking to append /sbin/halt and /sbin/shutdown to your username.
[10:59] <ghassen> help please
[10:59] <geekphreak> ercani: afaik windows is pc specific, wont work on other system, you will run into bsod problems
[10:59] <ghassen> i have to figure out which process is using port 8080 on my machine so i can stop it
[11:00] <ercani> geekphreak: I see, thanks..
[11:00] <bouma> could anyone tell me if btrfs is stable enough to use for my new 1TB
[11:00] <bazhang> bouma, no
[11:00] <bouma> i mean can i easily get btrfs support in my kernel
[11:00] <bouma> with ubuntu
[11:00] <phani> Hi.. I have hardy 8.0.4 . When i login to the machine all toolbars and taskbar freezes.. Could you please let me know any suggestions ...
[11:00] <ghassen> i have to figure out which process is using port 8080 on my machine so i can stop it
[11:00] <bazhang> bouma, will this be shared with a windows computer by the way
[11:01] <ghassen> i have to figure out which process is using port 8080 on my machine so i can stop it
[11:01] <bouma> bazhang: i couldnt care less about windos, and will find a way to connect if i need to
[11:01] <bouma> bazhang: why  ?
[11:01] <ghassen> i have to figure out which process is using port 8080 on my machine so i can stop it
[11:01] <red2kic> ghassen: Please don't spam every 30s.
[11:01] <bazhang> bouma, no file sharing via the 1TB drive then?
[11:01] <bouma> bazhang: what do you mean?
[11:02] <bouma> bazhang: what has windos got to do with file sharing ?
[11:02] <Swaner> Pleas, what time will be 10.4 availible? At 0:00? Or later? Thanks.
[11:02] <red2kic> ghassen: "sudo lsof -itcp:8080"  but you left. :P
[11:02] <bazhang> bouma, ie the drive will only connect to linux machines
[11:02] <bazhang> Swaner, not known
[11:02] <geekphreak> bazhang: howdy
[11:03] <bazhang> geekphreak, hi
[11:03] <bouma> bazhang: i can network it with samba, if it was ext2/3(/4?) or reiser3 i could read it find from windows.. so you shouldnt give advice about that, cause you are wrong
[11:03] <bouma> bazhang: there are IFS drivers for xp for those filesystems and also apps like e2fsexplorer that allow you to transfer files easily
[11:04] <bouma> bazhang: i am not going to use FAT64 or some wack like ntfs, just cause microsoft refuses to make it easy to access other better filesystems... and i dont need to
[11:04] <bazhang> bouma, ext4 is fine. btrfs is not yet so
[11:05] <bouma> bazhang: i could stick a ext3 drive in a xp machine and have no problem transfering files either using vmware and samba locally, or e2fsexplorer
[11:05] <bouma> bazhang: and have done
[11:05] <bouma> bazhang: have you used btrfs ?
[11:05] <geekphreak> bouma: dont think ther ext4 drivers for windows yet
[11:06] <linda_> hi
[11:06] <linda_> pls where can i get packet tracer for linux
[11:07] <iceroot> linda_: sudo apt-get install tcpdump
[11:07] <bouma> geekphreak: well fair enough, using extents with ext4 might not work with e2fsexplorer, but could still use the vmware trick
[11:07] <bouma> geekphreak: but as i said i care not for windos
[11:07] <geekphreak> bouma:  :)
[11:07] <bouma> geekphreak: i can network if i need to
[11:07] <geekphreak> always true
[11:08] <bouma> serously i use ifort/mkl, matlab licenced, and mathematica licensed under 64 bit linux and they are aresome
[11:08] <linda_> does it work like packet tracer
[11:08] <geekphreak> packet tracer from linksys?
[11:08] <linda_> cos i did it said i have the latest version
[11:09] <linda_> and it is a gui application
[11:09] <bouma> and the IT dept mandated windows partition has been shrunk to its minimum of 16gig and the last time it booted was to run the government tax pack exe (australia has a nice gov proggy but win only and didnt want to risk wine)
[11:09] <geekphreak> linda_: basically you wana log packets in gui mode yes?
[11:09] <linda_> ok
[11:10] <DJ_HaMsTa> she wants cisco packet tracer
[11:10] <DJ_HaMsTa> GNS3 might be similar to the cisco packet tracer
[11:10] <linda_> packet tracer is used to design and learn how to configure switches and routers
[11:10] <geekphreak> linksys / cisco same thing lol
[11:10] <linda_> in cisco
[11:10] <geekphreak> well nearly same hehe
[11:10] <linda_> that is ideas
[11:10] <linda_> it is a simlutor
[11:10] <linda_> u get me
[11:11] <DJ_HaMsTa> gns3 is a very popular emulator
[11:11] <linda_> gns3 is a simulator while packet tracer is an emulator
[11:11] <linda_> or rather the other way round
[11:11] <geekphreak> linda_: if application is nice, and is avaliable in linux , buy it :)
[11:12] <linda_> someone in dis channel gave me once
[11:12] <linda_> but i formated
[11:13] <geekphreak> linda_: good luck :p
[11:14] <linda_> why you tell me good luck huh?
[11:14] <bouma> geekphreak: i wonder, now that mballoc and extents is ported to ext3 if they will work with the windos ext2 hackware ?
[11:14] <linda_> i dont think i need it
[11:14] <DJ_HaMsTa> linda_,  bad luck
[11:14] <linda_> funny
[11:14] <linda_> just being a kiddo
[11:15]  * KoluCCi gone to smoke
[11:15] <geekphreak> bouma: prob.
[11:16] <geekphreak> bouma: i am running ext4   for sometime, had no problems yet   yet
[11:17] <geekphreak> edvinas: how did it go good/bad/ugly?
[11:18] <DelphiWorld> hi all
[11:18] <DelphiWorld> is it pocible one ethernet nic to have 2 IP?
[11:18] <DelphiWorld> or how do i configure a subinterface?
[11:20] <PhiKoen> exit
[11:21] <DelphiWorld> FloodBot1: chanserv is flooding
[11:21] <rww> DelphiWorld: no it isn't
[11:22] <NatanielPL> Hi guys, I've messed up a bit and I got some serious problem with my partytions ^^
[11:22] <geekphreak> NatanielPL: try asking, if someone an they will help
[11:23] <NatanielPL> 've tried to install windows and after that kubuntu, but after installing windows kubuntu partytioning was a bit wears so I've opened gparted in livecd ubuntu and it showes all disk unformatted, but when i start installed windows it shows all ntfs partytions
[11:24] <FloodBot4> !netsplit
[11:24] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[11:24] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[11:24] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[11:24] <linda_> hello i can i share my internet on my ubuntu desktop to the workstation via my switch
[11:25] <lxsysweb> what was that?? was that a netsplit?? i'm confused now
[11:25] <m0RrE> linda_: do you have 2 ethernet ports?
[11:25] <red2kic> lxsysweb: Yes. That was a netsplit.
[11:25] <linda_> yea on my destop
[11:26]  * Ken8521 never gets caught in netsplits for some reason.
[11:26] <linda_> which is suppose to act as the router
[11:26] <lxsysweb> red2kic: is that like the northern lights of the internet?
[11:26] <m0RrE> linda_: you can try to use firestarter
[11:26] <linda_> right
[11:27] <linda_> cant use iptable
[11:27] <linda_> wud prefer that
[11:27] <linda_> cos the network manager is not stable
[11:28] <s3r3n1t7> linda_, try to keep the replies on a single line. Because of the netsplit a lot of people are reconnecting.
[11:28] <linda_> ok
[11:28] <NatanielPL> I wanted to install windows and after that kubuntu, but after installing windows kubuntu partytioning was a bit weared (didn't show any partytions) so I've opened gparted in livecd ubuntu (livecd of gparted doesn't work on my PC) and it also showed whole disk unformatted, but when i start installed windows it shows all ntfs partytions so I believe that this partytions (ntfs and ext4) are still there, but why nor kubuntu installing, nor ub
 so
[11:31] <geekphreak> NatanielPL: is terminal open ?
[11:31] <clp75> Hi people
[11:31] <geekphreak> NatanielPL: can you pastebin sudo cfdisk
[11:31] <rumpe1> NatanielPL, perhaphs wrong device?
[11:32] <clp75> who can help me?I have a panasonic printer KX-MC6020 and I cannot find a compatible driver. Any suggestion??
[11:32] <idrissdev> hello , is there any good tut for configuring ubunto to turn it into a server
[11:33] <idrissdev> dedicated server
[11:33] <geekphreak> idrissdev:  there is a ubuntu-server version , download/install it
[11:33] <StHa> idrissdev, Download the latest version of Ubuntu Server 9.10
[11:33] <ennui> does anyone know how to change the gdm resolution? i'm not sure where the config file would be
[11:33] <StHa> in the install options you can select webserver if'm not mistaken
[11:33] <StHa> i'm
[11:33] <DJ_HaMsTa> LAMP
[11:33] <StHa> yep
[11:33] <Lagger> haloo
[11:34] <lxsysweb> idrissdev: I think you can select LAMP under tasksel.
[11:34] <NatanielPL> and i remember that windows instalation where showing some error some time, but suddenly it stopped...
[11:35] <idrissdev> cause ubunto server can't run on my computer x86
[11:35] <clp75> looks like that noone knows how help me with ubuntu driver for Panasonic KX-MC6020??
[11:35] <StHa> idrissdev, should be able to run fine...
[11:35] <twiztid> can someone please help me with choppy video streaming in web browsers?
[11:35] <lxsysweb> idrissdev: it can, you need to select a 32bit version.
[11:35] <idrissdev> no i already tried to install it
[11:36] <idrissdev> i have the officiel cd
[11:36] <StHa> idrissdev, what bit version is that?
[11:36] <idrissdev> 64
[11:36] <lxsysweb> idrissdev: you need a 32 bit version
[11:37] <geekphreak> NatanielPL: did you pastebin sudo cfdisk ?
[11:37] <StHa> yep. just download the 32bit version
[11:37] <idrissdev> can i download it
[11:37] <StHa> http://www.ubuntu.com
[11:37] <lxsysweb> idrissdev: yup
[11:37] <idrissdev> thanks i will do
[11:37] <twiztid> ive tried countless workarounds and am here on last resorts...
[11:37] <idrissdev> see you ;) thaks
[11:38] <NatanielPL> geekphreak I'd have to start some livecd, wait, i think i'll first try chkdsk from windows console
[11:38] <linda_> does it mean that ubuntu 10.04 rc will not be the same the ubuntu .10.04
[11:38] <airtonix> clp75, printing and linux is still in the last century. it depends entirely on manufacturers providing proper specs for creation of drivers or just the drivers themselves.... hopefully some smart cookie will developer something like ndiswrapper for printer drivers sometime.
[11:38] <airtonix> linda_, #ubuntu+1
[11:39] <clp75> ooo so..bad news...:S thank you..
[11:39] <clp75> I found a driver-like that looks like to work on redhat
[11:39] <clp75> ....
[11:39] <airtonix> clp75, unless of course your printer is exposed over a network via samba...then it gets much easier.
[11:39] <bouma> also does anyone know of a linux filesystem that supports file history, it would be interesting to have a filesystem that i use to software development that keeps old versions of files, instead of doing it manually
[11:39] <clp75> samba looks like to not recognize the printer host
[11:40] <bouma> i've heard of such things, eg elephantfs, but can anyone recommend one ?
[11:40] <airtonix> bouma, none yet. i use git instead.
[11:40] <clp75> git?...what is git??
[11:40] <bouma> airtonix: git? how do you use that, can you mount it, like through a userspace fs
[11:40] <bouma> (fuse)
[11:40] <airtonix> bouma, no.
[11:41] <bouma> airtonix: so you manually commit, etc
[11:41] <rumpe1> clp75, version control system
[11:41] <clp75> ah ... git is not for the printer...
[11:41] <clp75>  ;)
[11:41] <airtonix> bouma, yes.
[11:41] <bouma> airtonix: but is there a nice dragon-drop proggy that lets you access it and manage logarithmic history etc
[11:41] <airtonix> bouma, there is talk of a new FileSystem with revision qualities.
[11:41] <dudeface> couple more days, is everyone excited?
[11:41] <clp75> ok..thanks people..see you later..