[00:00] <solaruin> heh, ok, so i may have broke this pretty nicely, but its no worse than it was before
[00:00] <solaruin> so i got an error 17 from grub when loading
[00:00] <solaruin> so i just reinstalled grub, thinking everything would be fine
[00:00] <solaruin> so when i reloaded it, its just the grub prompt, and it wants me to tell it where the kernel is
[00:00] <wilee-nilee> solaruin, Context?
[00:00] <solaruin> how the hell do i find the kernel :p
[00:00] <Dr_Willis> reinstalled grub how?
[00:01] <solaruin> used a live disk
[00:01] <Dr_Willis> you should have used the boot-repair tool - i imagine
[00:01] <daftykins> why are the most useful technical posts (wilee-nilee's UEFI forum link) written by non-English speakers so they're hard to understand =|
[00:01] <solaruin> probably :p
[00:01] <wilee-nilee> solaruin, That tool generates a script that is quite helpful.
[00:02] <solaruin> which, the boot-repair tool?
[00:02] <arayaq> daftykins: link?
[00:02] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub
[00:02] <solaruin> i only need to get into it once so i can get the files i need. any way i can find the kernal from the grub menu?
[00:02] <OerHeks> daftykins, you might want to learn french http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/uefi
[00:03] <solaruin> i can do that from the grub menu?
[00:03] <daftykins> arayaq: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[00:03] <daftykins> OerHeks: no thanks
[00:03] <solaruin> nope. so from the live disk then i assume
[00:04] <wilee-nilee> solaruin, you can manual boot, use supergrub, or use the bootrepair app, your choice really.
[00:04] <solaruin> i'd like to manual boot. all i need to do is give it the kernel location, and t ell it to boot. i just dont know where the kernel is
[00:05] <genoobie> I was looking at the docs on ubuntu to install the b43 driver without internet
[00:05] <usuario> hello Im charo
[00:05] <genoobie> but there's no documentation for 13.04
[00:05] <genoobie> would this be the same cl in 13.04? tar xfvj broadcom-wl-<IP_ADDRESS>.3_mipsel.tar.bz2 sudo b43-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware broadcom-wl-<IP_ADDRESS>.3/driver/wl_apsta/wl_prebuilt.o
[00:06] <arayaq> genoobie: There are some debs packed in the ISO for that, do you have the ISO around?
[00:06] <wilee-nilee> usuario, lets here some flamenco. ;)
[00:06] <usuario> I would like improve my english
[00:06] <genoobie> arayaq yes
[00:06] <wilee-nilee> hear*
[00:06] <genoobie> it's on a usb stick
[00:06] <genoobie> the live version anyone
[00:06] <genoobie> anyhow
[00:07] <genoobie> not sure how to extract that from the usb
[00:07] <wilee-nilee> !enter | genoobie
[00:07] <arayaq> genoobie: ok. Give mea second to get you the right path
[00:08] <masaka> Hi everyone, i have a problem with 13.04. I can no longer login as my user to Unity or Gnome classic; guest session works, though. Ctrl_Shift+F1 terminal session also works
[00:09] <genoobie> arayaq: it's lubuntu
[00:11] <usuario> Iḿ new usuary and I dont know what is this exactly
[00:11] <arayaq> genoobie: ok. First install the dkms module. In the USB is in pool/main/d/dksm/. Then install the driver in /pool/restricted/b/bcmwl/
[00:12] <Dr_Willis> masaka:  login at console.  check the owner of the .Xauthority file (move/rename it if you want)  most likely Some setting file is causing the  issue. You can move them to some Backup Directory
[00:12] <Dr_Willis> but the .Xauthority file is a common issue
[00:13] <OerHeks> Dr_Willis +1 thinking the same issue, it is owned now by root:root if i recall
[00:13] <masaka> Permissions on .Xauthority are 600, owner is myself
[00:14] <Dr_Willis> you can move/rename it just in case.  it will get remade
[00:14] <Dr_Willis> and move you rother config files to some backup dir if you want to be sure. :)
[00:15] <masaka> Dr_Willis: yes, moving the file got me in. Thanks!
[00:19] <Dr_Willis> i Belive that file gets the wrong info due to use of sudo instead of sudo
[00:19] <Dr_Willis> oops sudo instead of Gksudo
[00:19] <twobitsprite> if I buy software from ubuntu software-center, but  I'm not running ubuntu, will I still be able to download it?
[00:19]  * daftykins docks Dr_Willis' wages
[00:20] <twobitsprite> (I'm running linux mint, so I don't know if I should ask here or in the mint channel :P)
[00:20] <somsip> !mint | twobitsprite
[00:21] <masaka> Dr_Willis: the only "sudo" command that I ran yesterday was "sudo shutdown -h now", is this something risky?
[00:21] <Flannel> twobitsprite: You should ask in the mint channel.  It depends on whether mint has maintained compatibility with that particular package (library versions, etc)
[00:21] <SonikkuAmerica> OK, I did as y'all suggested previously, do I need to set a device to put GRUB in?
[00:22] <pfraze> working on a cli tool, am wondering: what are the benefits of using argv versus environment flags (eg PORT=8000 myprogram)?
[00:23] <twobitsprite> Well, my question isn't necessarily about compatibility with mint, I can figur that out... I'm just asking about the logistics of downloading packages from ubuntu software center that I purchased
[00:23] <pfraze> in c, argv is much more accessible, but this is a nodejs script, so it's actually easier to access the environment variables
[00:23] <SonikkuAmerica> To clarify, on my potential Ubuntu 13.04 (64-bit) install on a UEFI machine dual-booting with Windows 8, do I need to set a separate partition for GRUB, or not?
[00:24] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[00:24]  * dharmaturtle noms popcorn
[00:24] <SonikkuAmerica> To clarify, on my potential Ubuntu 13.04 (64-bit) install on a UEFI machine dual-booting with Windows 8, do I need to set a separate partition for GRUB, or not?
[00:26] <twobitsprite> SonikkuAmerica: grub doesn't need it's own partition... do you mean a /boot partition?
[00:27] <SonikkuAmerica> twobitsprite: Possibly. I should rephrase: Do I need to mess with the "Device for bootloader installation" combo box, or is the default correct for UEFI?
[00:28] <twobitsprite> SonikkuAmerica: I'm not sure if UEFI cares... I have servers are work with UEFI and they just have grub installed in the MBR and have a single partition
[00:28] <SonikkuAmerica> twobitsprite: Well if it's called the MBR, then it's not UEFI.
[00:28] <twobitsprite> but then again, they're booting over iSCSI...
[00:29] <Freeder> Hello. is there a way to see what shares an nfs server is offering, locally? I just set up an nfs server (or so I think) but can't connect to it from my client machine. How would I start to troubleshoot this?
[00:29] <twobitsprite> UEFI supports standard/classic PC disk partition labels.
[00:30] <SonikkuAmerica> twobitsprite: Well, that answered it. :)
[00:31] <twobitsprite> SonikkuAmerica: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface#Disk_device_compatibility
[00:32] <SonikkuAmerica> twobitsprite: Well, I know it supports GPT (which is what I'm using). Thanks for the help though.
[00:36] <zippo^> is ppa stable too?
[00:36] <twobitsprite> Freeder: I would start by making sure the NFS daemons are running, then check netstat/rpcinfo to see what ports they're running on and check iptables to make sure those ports are open
[00:37] <twobitsprite> (including portmapper, which should be running on port 111)
[00:50] <wsky> hey, how do i maximize windows in unity?
[00:50] <wsky> i mean, with keybard.
[00:50] <wsky> shortcuts.
[00:51] <Dr_Willis> press and hold the SUPER key to see a list of common actions
[00:53] <genoobie> do you have to sudo dpkg?
[00:53] <wsky> Dr_Willis: cool, thx
[00:55] <Freeder> I have two web servers behind my NAT. server A is currently exposed to the world on port 80. I mounted web server B's content on server A at /var/www/B . However, when I surf to that location, it attempts to make me download a php file, instead of view it in the browser ( I can view it fine surfing directly to server B). Any thoughts on why that doesn't work?
[00:55] <Freeder> I don't know much about web serving
[00:56] <Dr_Willis> could be theres some sort of security/permissions wrong. or the server is not following mounts or links. You might want to ask in #apache if thats what you are using
[00:56] <Freeder> perms all match up, and the file being served is the one that I should be viewing, not downloading.
[00:56] <Freeder> thanks
[00:56] <Freeder> I'll ask there as well
[00:56] <Freeder> but everything 'looks' just like B, on A
[00:59] <genoobie> ugh
[00:59] <genoobie> I am stuck
[01:02] <rypervenche> genoobie: What's up?
[01:04] <Thorium220> hi, newbie here needs a hand. anyone around?
[01:05] <rypervenche> !ask | Thorium220
[01:05] <Thorium220> danke
[01:06] <bluedogslim> Hello all
[01:06] <bluedogslim> I love ubuntu
[01:06] <bluedogslim> Pretty cool os
[01:07] <sjlsjl> anyone available to help with a PCIe SATA card driver issue?
[01:07] <bluedogslim> sjlsjl - did try installing the latest kernel?
[01:07] <sjlsjl> i've got the latest in 12.04.3 LTS
[01:08] <Thorium220> I have a robot running ubuntu server 12.blah, and I need to install VNC on it. I have the appropriate .deb file, but I ws wondering what the best way to go about installing it is? The robot doesn't have an internet connection, and the only way I can get anything to/from it is via SSH from my laptop. I'm rather inexperienced and don't want to bugger things up (again).
[01:08] <bluedogslim> I just downloaded the latest kernel in 13.04 and it fixed all my issues
[01:08] <sjlsjl> Bought it partly because they advertized built in support in 2.6.31+ - I'm on 3.8.0 so it should be new enough
[01:13] <bluedogslim> You guys have any luck getting scanners to work in all in one printers?
[01:14] <petergunn> my old Hp c7280 all-in-one worked with xsane over network
[01:14] <petergunn> with hplip
[01:14] <petergunn> and hp toolbox
[01:14] <bluedogslim> Ya
[01:14] <bluedogslim> I have a canon
[01:14] <bluedogslim> I can't seem to get the scannner working
[01:15] <bluedogslim> I will play with it at work tomorrow
[01:15] <petergunn> yah not sure about that - I have a Brother all-in-one ow but I havent tried scanning
[01:16] <HappyNewYear13> is the last Firefox, version 24, acting funny for you guys too?
[01:16] <bluedogslim> petergunn - how did you install the drivers on the brother?
[01:17] <petergunn> I installed the .debs from the Brother website
[01:17] <HappyNewYear13> is the last Firefox, version 24, acting funny for you guys too?
[01:17] <bluedogslim> Petergunn - did you use the terminal to install?
[01:17] <HappyNewYear13> what's the channel where all the ubuntu ops get together?
[01:18] <wilee-nilee> HappyNewYear13, This channel works with you addressing the actual issues.
[01:18] <HappyNewYear13> wilee-nilee, i have another question for them, something that happened in the past
[01:18] <TuxBlackEdo> hey, i am trying to make a script execute only on startup, but it also executes on shutdown, how do i fix that? I used "update-rc.d myscript defaults"
[01:18] <wilee-nilee> #ubuntu-ops
[01:18] <HappyNewYear13> thanks wilee-nilee
[01:18] <wilee-nilee> np
[01:19] <SoftFeta> 264 s!
[01:19] <lucknerjb> exit
[01:19] <HappyNewYear13> who here knows bahzang? what happened to him?
[01:19] <SoftFeta> dead
[01:19] <HappyNewYear13> or bazhang
[01:20] <HappyNewYear13> i don't remember how to spell his nickname, but really  where is bazhang
[01:20] <HappyNewYear13> did he change his nickname?
[01:20] <wilee-nilee> HappyNewYear13, this is not support stuff take it to the opd channel.
[01:20] <wilee-nilee> opps*
[01:21] <dharmaturtle> Does anyone know a preferred Rescue LiveCD/USB?
[01:21] <wilee-nilee> dharmaturtle, For?
[01:21] <dharmaturtle> lost a bunch of text files. Hoping to get them back. Original OS was Ubuntu.
[01:22] <wilee-nilee> dharmaturtle, testdisk is commonly used
[01:22] <petergunn> blueslimdog: cant remember - it was either via nautilus or command like using alien
[01:23] <petergunn> http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/download_scn.html#brscan4
[01:23] <petergunn> was the scanner download
[01:25] <bluedogslim> I gotta check the support for my printer.
[01:26] <bluedogslim> How do you guys pick new hardware?  Like printers? Isn't the support weak for  linux drivers on some models?
[01:29] <petergunn> I bought a Brother MFCJ430W because of the cheap ink and manufacturer Linux support
[01:29] <petergunn> printer was under $50
[01:30] <petergunn> ink is super cheap - 24 for ~$15
[01:30] <petergunn> print quality is only ok tho - nut that fine for me
[01:35] <UnHolyTerror> I buy HP printers.
[01:36] <Dr_Willis> ive switched to Brother also. HP gave me too many issues in the past few years
[01:36] <Dr_Willis> It pays to research befor you buy.
[01:39] <linuxuz3r> hi
[01:39] <Pernicious-Taint> hi
[01:43] <hugok> Hey whats up guys?
[01:44] <Pernicious-Taint> hi!
[01:44] <hugok> Im manually partitioning a 40GB into "/" "/home" and 'swap", how many gigs each?
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> just 40gb? Id just use a / and swap
[01:45] <hugok> also, should the "/" be a phyisical partition or logical?
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> Unless you know how much space you will be needing
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> PRIMARY or logical - dosent matter
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> i use all primaries if i can in most cases
[01:46] <hugok> how does 10gb "/", 27.9 gb "/home", and 2.1gb "swap" sound?
[01:46] <Dr_Willis> 10gb for / would be WAY to tiny for my rather basic needs
[01:46] <hugok> hmmm
[01:46] <Dr_Willis> it would be workable.. if you kept track of what you where doing
[01:46] <hugok> what exactly does / do?
[01:46] <Dr_Willis>   / holds everything
[01:47] <hugok> compared to /home?
[01:47] <Dr_Willis> including /tmp /var/ /var/apt/cache (shich is like 2 gb for me right now)
[01:47] <Dr_Willis>    / is the 'root' of the whole filesystem
[01:47] <Dr_Willis> whats not in /home/ will be in /
[01:47] <hugok> so like 1/2 & 1/2 /home vs /
[01:47] <hugok> ?
[01:48] <Dr_Willis> for 30gb.. id do it all to / and swap. but you lose the benifits of a seperate /home/ but face it with JUST 30gb// you can backup your whole system to a $15 flash drive.
[01:48] <hugok> its 40gb
[01:48] <hugok> but still, i see
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> I got a 3TB hd just for my /home/ ;)
[01:49] <hugok> lol, the 40 was the biggest HDD i could get for free
[01:49] <hugok> its IDE
[01:49] <hugok> and has max transfer speed of like 20 Mb/s
[01:50] <hugok> its only the OS so my server file transfer wont be too bad
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> lets just say that if / fills up.. it really really sucks. ;)
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> if /home/ fills up.. the users are annoyed.. but the system should stillwork. ;)
[01:51] <Dr_Willis> i always use at least 20-30 for / if i can.
[01:51] <Dr_Willis> its also fairly easy to setup a external USB for the users to use as part of their /home/ if you want
[01:51] <hugok> yeah, I was thinking that
[01:52] <hugok> is there a way to resize a partition without screwing everything?
[01:52] <hugok> like in 6 months or so when I realize you are right
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> gparted can resize
[01:53] <hugok> oh yeah
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> but with such small partions. it may be faster to just backup
[01:53] <Nothing_Much> Is there any status on XMir on Armel?
[01:56] <bluedogslim> Any suggestions for getting a good covert art browers for mp3s?  Should I use rythmn box? Or another mp3 player?
[01:57] <Nothing_Much> Is there any status on XMir on Armel?
[01:58] <hugok> I don't know
[01:59] <hugok> man I used to be so scared about partitioning now im doing it left-handed while eating ribs and playing cs
[01:59] <hugok> Raid)!
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> from what ive seen in here.. :) best to stay away from raid.
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> and of course always make backups
[02:00] <hugok> is raid a bad thing?
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> I need to write up a Top Lessos learned in #ubuntu ;)
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> hugok:  if you dont understand what raid is doing.. and it breaks. ;) it can be a very tough learning experience
[02:01] <Dr_Willis> when in doubt. keep things simple
[02:01] <hugok> Well I know Raid0 breaks everything if it breaks, but its nothing critical really
[02:01] <hugok> just a home movie streming server
[02:01] <hugok> on a budget of 0
[02:01] <hugok> make that -0
[02:02] <Dr_Willis> about every pc i got in the house - works as a dlna server :)
[02:03] <Dr_Willis> several rasperry pis. android devicves. even the router
[02:03] <hugok> androids?
[02:03] <hugok> what do they do?
[02:04] <hugok> Aw frick now its asking me which kernel I want
[02:04] <hugok> there's like 30 options
[02:04] <hugok> actually more like 70
[02:04] <hugok> jesus
[02:05] <hugok> good thing there is a 'none' option :)
[02:05] <zippo^> hugok!! Wi-Fi works great now (-:
[02:06] <hugok> zippo^, sweet, what did you do?
[02:06] <zippo^> hugok: http://askubuntu.com/questions/345608/sorry-installation-of-this-driver-failed-please-have-a-look-at-the-log-file-f
[02:06] <hugok> huh, interesting
[02:07] <hugok> good thing you got that working :)
[02:07] <zippo^> i was searching long. i am very happy that it works now
[02:09] <cratola> hi
[02:09] <cratola> I need to increase ulimit -n
[02:09] <cratola> I have updated /etc/security/limits.conf but it's not taking effect
[02:11] <benklop> hey everyone, i'm running into a strange apt issue
[02:11] <benklop> and im not sure what is going on
[02:12] <qyt> haha
[02:12] <benklop> it seems like no packages in 'main' are getting loaded by any package manager
[02:12] <benklop> but main is in my sources.list
[02:12] <benklop> and i have no failures during update
[02:12] <qyt> kankan
[02:13] <rrm> hello peeps, how long will 10.04.4 LTS be supported?
[02:14] <cratola> can anyone help me with ulimit -n?
[02:14] <kostkon> rrm, server till apr 2015
[02:14] <cratola> U've tried like 3 times
[02:14] <cratola> I can't restart production *again*
[02:15] <bluedogslim> What is the best music player for ubuntu?
[02:15] <bluedogslim> ANy suggestions?
[02:15] <kostkon> !poll | bluedogslim
[02:15] <bluedogslim> Any suggestions?
[02:15] <benklop> bluedogslim: i really enjoy clementine, but ubottu is right
[02:15] <bluedogslim> ok
[02:15] <bluedogslim> thats cool
[02:16] <benklop> bluedogslim: you should look on alternativeto if you want to have a decent list of choices.. thats what I do usually
[02:16] <rrm> @kostkon how about desktop?
[02:16] <kostkon> rrm, desktop version has already expired, not supported any more
[02:17] <kostkon> rrm, you should upgrade to 12.04
[02:17] <bluedogslim> To be honest I love rythmn box
[02:17] <bluedogslim> I just want something better for cover art
[02:17] <bluedogslim> I love ubuntu
[02:17] <qyt> ....
[02:18] <renzom> hi everyone, back in my windows days i was a MediaMonkey fanboy, specially for its tagging capabilities. What tagging software would you recommend as a linux alternative?
[02:19] <cratola> so does anyone know how to increase ulimit?
[02:20] <qyt> I can not use the irc xchat package wireshark capture
[02:21] <moes> 12.04-lts...unity..How to change cursor on desktop
[02:22] <Dr_Willis> moes:  ive seen people have issues changeing that for all apps.
[02:22] <kostkon> renzom, easytag kid3 puddletag picard
[02:22] <Dr_Willis> moes:  you may wan tto check on askubuntu.com for whats the best way
[02:23] <moes> Dr_Willis, I have already gone that route with no sucess
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> moes:  Yep. its just one of those buggy areas. its never worked well for several releases i recall.
[02:25] <benklop> bluedogslim: there are a number of utilities to help you download and manage cover art and metadata for your music collection, picard being one option. it might be a bit too much though - it's more for serious metadata management...
[02:30] <renzom> kostkon, benklop thanks for your answers, i'll try them out! :)
[02:31] <renzom> oops benklop wasn't answering me, but it helped too :) thanks anyway
[02:32] <benklop> renzom: for what you are mentioning, picard is nice since it can potentially automate a large part of the process
[02:32] <benklop> but it takes a while to learn to use
[02:32] <benklop> and it gets all its data using audio fingerprints and  musicbrainz DB info
[02:32] <benklop> no prob! :)
[02:36] <renzom> benklop: if it is not too much asking, what's your player of choice? I'm now with guayadeque (i spell it different every time), but i'm looking to test some others
[02:37] <benklop> renzom: i use clementine mostly
[02:37] <ubuntu> clear
[02:38] <benklop> renzom: but i used picard primarily to clean up all my data so i could upload to google music and have useful art and tagging on my phone
[02:38] <renzom> benklop: i think i tried it a while a go, i'll give it a chance
[02:39] <benklop> renzom: its not bad, honestly i like it because it mostly stays out of my way, but still isnt too minimal
[02:39] <benklop> renzom: it's based on the old versions of amarok
[02:39] <benklop> before they did their rewrite a number of years ago
[02:39] <Guest9161> Hi, I have 3 other machines running windows and I would like to make periodic backup of some folders there. Do you know how can I simply do that? ( I am aware of backup tools like bacula, but I am looking for something simpler.)
[02:39] <genoobie> hey all
[02:39] <renzom> benklop: sounds good :)
[02:40] <genoobie> trying to get my wireless working without internet
[02:40] <genoobie> I've got the b43-fwcutter installed
[02:40] <genoobie> and I've unpacked the tarball
[02:40] <genoobie> I'm not quite sure how to proceed with the CL
[02:40] <genoobie> the CL I am experimenting with is
[02:41] <genoobie> sudo b43-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware broadcom-wl-<IP_ADDRESS>.3/driver/wl_apsta/wl_prebuilt.o
[02:41] <hugok> hey genoobie !
[02:41] <genoobie> hey hugok
[02:41] <hugok> you're back
[02:41] <genoobie> yep
[02:41] <hugok> any troubles?
[02:41] <genoobie> working on my wireless card install
[02:41] <genoobie> I'm so close I can taste it :)
[02:41] <genoobie> yes
[02:41] <genoobie> of course.  I tried following the guide here
[02:42] <mojtaba> Hi, I have 3 other machines running windows and I would like to make periodic backup of some folders there. Do you know how can I simply do that? ( I am aware of backup tools like bacula, but I am looking for something simpler.)
[02:42] <genoobie> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> genoobie:  so you unpacked stuff and it made a broadcom-wl-5.1*  type directory/path?
[02:42] <genoobie> Dr_Willis: yes
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> genoobie:  so you used that command and change it to reflect the proper path to the extracted files? The version #'s can often change
[02:42] <genoobie> I have a ~/Desktop/b43-fwcutter/broadcom-wl-5.100.138
[02:43] <genoobie> Dr_Willis: that's where I am having a bit of trouble
[02:43] <camilong> help me
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> use the tab key to complete the paths.
[02:43] <genoobie> the broadcom folder has two dirs
[02:43] <genoobie> config and linux
[02:43] <genoobie> and the linux dir has 3 .o files
[02:43] <genoobie> I'm not sure which one to point to
[02:43] <camilong> configuration  wi fi  usb
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> one is named wl_prebuilt.o  ?
[02:43] <genoobie> I'm also not sure if anything should be in the /lib/firmware directory
[02:43] <camilong> not recognition
[02:43] <genoobie> Dr_Willis: no
[02:44] <varun_> genoobie, have you confirmed what chip your card uses? Are you sure it uses b43?
[02:44] <genoobie> varun_: yes
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> could be you got an  differnt archive then what you needed.
[02:44] <genoobie> no, the guide is for 12.04
[02:44] <genoobie> I have 13.04
[02:44] <genoobie> when I followed guide
[02:44] <genoobie> it wanted this firmware
[02:44] <varun_> genoobie, so which card is it?
[02:45] <mojtaba> Hi, I have 3 other machines running windows  in a LAN and I would like to make periodic backup of some folders there. Do you know how can I simply do that? ( I am aware of backup tools like bacula, but I am looking for something simpler.)
[02:45] <genoobie> bcm4318
[02:45] <camilong>  13.04
[02:45] <varun_> genoobie, all the b43 firmware files go into /lib/firmware, but your description looks a bit confusing
[02:46] <genoobie> well
[02:46] <varun_> genoobie, actually /lib/firmware/b43
[02:46] <genoobie> I'm confused then
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> !find broadcom-sta-dkms
[02:46] <genoobie> because I followed the guide more or less
[02:46] <lagbox> so i see the upgrade to 13.10 ... anyone against me upgrading to the beta at the moment ?
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> !info broadcom-sta-dkms
[02:47] <varun_> genoobie, where have you got this folder from - ~/Desktop/b43-fwcutter/broadcom-wl-5.100.138
[02:47] <genoobie> http://www.lwfinger.com/b43-firmware/broadcom-wl-5.100.138.tar.bz2
[02:47] <varun_> genoobie, Dr_Willis, that card won't work with the sta driver, only with b43
[02:47] <genoobie> Dr_Willis: it's not the "STA"
[02:47] <genoobie> varun
[02:48] <genoobie> so basically I followed the directions for 12.04
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> i dident see him list a specific card. )
[02:48] <genoobie> but subbed in 13.04 links
[02:48] <genoobie> first step was this
[02:48] <genoobie> sudo dpkg -i b43-fwcutter*
[02:48] <genoobie> so I installed b43-fwcutter
[02:49] <varun_> genoobie, it says "wl-5.100.138.." which I perfectly remember to be a sta driver version, that's why I say it was confusing..
[02:49] <genoobie> varun_: hey, you know more then I do
[02:49] <genoobie> so I got the wrong tarball
[02:49] <varun_> genoobie, do you have internet connection on that machine ?
[02:49] <genoobie> no
[02:49] <genoobie> but I can move a tarball to it
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> http://mirror2.openwrt.org/sources/broadcom-wl-<IP_ADDRESS>.3_mipsel.tar.bz2 is this the arvhive you need?
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> b43 (12.04 Precise Pangolin)
[02:50] <genoobie> yeah but I have 13.04
[02:50] <genoobie> didn't know if that firmware was going to work
[02:50] <varun_> genoobie, have you also attempted the sta driver? We'll have to remove it first if you had.
[02:50] <genoobie> no not yet
[02:51] <mojtaba> Hi, I have 3 other machines running windows  in a LAN and I would like to make periodic backup of some folders there. Do you know how can I simply do that? ( I am aware of backup tools like bacula, but I am looking for something simpler.)
[02:51] <k0ff33> I'm trying to set up racoon.
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> mojtaba:  rsync and a cron job
[02:51] <k0ff33> but I get check and compare ids wrong
[02:51] <genoobie> so
[02:51] <k0ff33>  DEBUG: check and compare ids : value mismatch (IPv4_subnet)
[02:51] <genoobie> Dr_Willis: will that tarball work with 13.04?
[02:51] <genoobie> or varun?
[02:51] <genoobie> varun_: I mean
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> genoobie:  no idea. I dont see why the Firmware would matter
[02:51] <TradeFortress> /etc/security/limits.conf is not taking any effect
[02:51] <varun_> genoobie, all you need is the firmware file, which is included in the nonfree firmware package. Download this package from here : http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/all/linux-firmware-nonfree/download
[02:52] <genoobie> varun_: I loaded that too
[02:52] <mojtaba> Dr_Willis: Could you please let me know how can I have access to the windows partition? I will check man rsync later.
[02:52] <varun_> sorry, my time-lag here is 25+ seconds :(
[02:52] <genoobie> when I dpkg'ed that I wonder if it put the firmware in the directory?
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> mojtaba:  setup a windows share. and  mount it from the linux machines
[02:52] <varun_> genoobie, linux-firmware-nonfree ?
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> mojtaba:  or setup a ftp server,  if you want to go old skool
[02:52] <genoobie> yes
[02:53] <mojtaba> Dr_Willis: Do you know how can I have access to c$? because windows partitions are shared by default!
[02:53] <genoobie> varun_: I already had downloaded that
[02:53] <genoobie> I just haven't properly executed the b43-fwcutter command
[02:53] <genoobie> I don't know the path to the firmware
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> i dident think you needed the fwcutter if you installed that package
[02:53] <varun_> genoobie, check with "ls /lib/firmware/b43" ... that directory doesn't exist by default
[02:54] <genoobie> yes, there is a folder there
[02:54] <varun_> genoobie, Dr_Willis is right. b43-fwcutter does the same thing as the nonfree package, just in a different way..
[02:54] <genoobie> there's a ton of ".fw" files
[02:54] <mojtaba> Dr_Willis: Do you know how can I have access to c$? because windows partitions are shared by default!
[02:54] <genoobie> so now what?
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> that package (look at its contents with mc)  has  /lib/firmware/b43 and a LOT of other .fw files
[02:55] <genoobie> yes
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> mojtaba:  a share with $ is special i belive.    Id make a 'backups' share. and use it.
[02:55] <varun_> genoobie, then do - "sudo modprobe -rv b43"... then ... "sudo modprobe -v b43" .... then check - "dpkg | grep b43" ........ are there any firmware errors?
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> !samba
[02:56] <mojtaba> Dr_Willis: You mean I make a backup at the windows machine and share it?
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> mojtaba:  yes.. make a Backups Folder and make it a share.
[02:57] <genoobie> dpkg | grep b43
[02:57] <genoobie> dpkg error need an action option
[02:58] <varun_> genoobie, oops, it was - "dmesg | grep b43" - sorry, just awoke ;P
[02:58] <mojtaba> Dr_Willis: The data is changing always, then I should backup 2 times? one in the windows and second on the linux machine?
[02:58] <genoobie> b43 phy0 error
[02:58] <genoobie> firmware file b43/ucode5.fw  not found
[02:59] <varun_> genoobie, is it a recent message? could be an older one when the firmware wasn't installed..
[02:59] <genoobie> but at the end it says b43-phy0 loading firmware version 666.2
[02:59] <genoobie> that seems to be the latest version
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> mojtaba:  No idea. depends on how critical yor data is.
[03:00] <genoobie> varun_: will this be persistent?
[03:00] <varun_> genoobie, check again "ls /lib/firmware/b43 | grep ucode5" - is it there?
[03:00] <genoobie> is there anything else I need to do?
[03:00] <varun_> yes
[03:00] <mojtaba> Dr_Willis: If I format new hard drive NTFS on the linux machine, should I defragment it later? or there is no need for that in linux?
[03:00] <genoobie> well wireless signals are coming up
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> mojtaba:  a newly formated ntfs - is not fragmented
[03:00] <varun_> genoobie, it's all good then :)
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> mojtaba:  and ext2/3/4 dont have fragmentation issues.
[03:00] <genoobie> yes it is there
[03:00] <mojtaba> Dr_Willis: I mean after a while
[03:00] <genoobie> so reboot will yield a working wireless
[03:00] <genoobie> yay!
[03:01] <genoobie> varun_: thank you very much
[03:01] <varun_> genoobie, and did you mean the message will be persistent? If so.. no, it'll be gone at next boot
[03:01] <varun_> Welcome :)
[03:02] <genoobie> no
[03:02] <genoobie> I meant will the wireless be persistent
[03:02] <genoobie> so varun_ I'd like to do a cleanup
[03:02] <genoobie> should I uninstall b43
[03:02] <genoobie> I mean b43-fwcutter
[03:03] <varun_> genoobie, yup that will be persistent (unless you fiddled with the sta driver too, we'll be right here if you did ;P)
[03:03] <genoobie> no I never did
[03:04] <genoobie> varun_: do you have a second
[03:04] <genoobie> I'm trying to make a synopsis of what I did
[03:04] <varun_> genoobie, once the firmware files are in place, they'll always be there, unless you manually remove them. The only possible problem is the sta driver blacklisting the b43, which is as easy to fix as purging the sta
[03:04] <varun_> yup
[03:04] <genoobie> 1) installed b43-fwcutter
[03:05] <genoobie> 2) tried to install firmware-b43-installer
[03:05] <genoobie> this failed because it wanted the firmware from the internet
[03:05] <genoobie> then 3) installed linux-firmware-nonfree1
[03:05] <varun_> genoobie, b43-fwcutter is just a helper, not needed anymore, but won't hurt either. So is no. 2)
[03:06] <genoobie> 4) accidentally grabbed the wrong tarball
[03:06] <varun_> 3) is the real thing, has to be there now
[03:06] <genoobie> but #3 is just unpacking a bunch of firmware
[03:06] <genoobie> no?
[03:07] <genoobie> then I was going to execute the b43-fwcutter command on the wrong file but was stopped by you and Dr_Willis
[03:08] <varun_> genoobie, yes, 3 did what you think, but I'm not sure if purging it will also remove the files. so better just leave it installed.
[03:08] <genoobie> who recognized that tarball was the wrong one
[03:08] <genoobie> then since you saw that I did #3
[03:08] <genoobie> we can skip to #5) modprobe the right fw
[03:09] <varun_> genoobie, we are not sure if it was the right or wrong file, we just didn't know about it, so better get rid of it
[03:09] <varun_> the tar.bz file
[03:09] <genoobie> deleted it
[03:09] <genoobie> so to uninstall those two helper pkgs
[03:10] <genoobie> b43-fwcutter and firmware installer
[03:10] <genoobie> how do I do that
[03:10] <genoobie> dpkg -u?
[03:10] <varun_> genoobie, if everything is right, you won't need to do anything manually now. It should all work automatically on next boot.
[03:10] <genoobie> let me reboot
[03:10] <genoobie> but don't I want to get rid of those helper bin?
[03:11] <varun_> genoobie, in fact, you can just copy the /lib/firmware/b43 directory --> remove everything you tried --> copy the directory back "IF" it gets deleted during purging the nonfree package..
[03:12] <genoobie> when I tried to copy a folder into that directory earlier it said "access denied"
[03:13] <varun_> genoobie, you can copy "From" it. To copy "Into" it, you'll need to be root "sudo cp..."
[03:13] <genoobie> oh
[03:13] <genoobie> the FileMan won't handle this automatically?
[03:13] <varun_> genoobie, so in short - you can delete all the helper packages now. Just keep the "linux-firmware-nonfree" one just in case. It'll work on all versions of Ubuntu.
[03:14] <genoobie> how do you "delete" the helper pkgs?
[03:14] <varun_> genoobie, only if FileMan is opened as root "gksu.."
[03:15] <genoobie> how do you delete the helper pkgs
[03:15] <varun_> not necessary, but you should be able to "apt-get remove <desired package>"
[03:15] <varun_> basically, I meant the garbage in your home or desktop :)
[03:15] <genoobie> oh
[03:16] <genoobie> so just the .deb files
[03:16] <varun_> genoobie, the helpers are in KB anyway..
[03:16] <genoobie> yeah
[03:16] <varun_> yup
[03:16] <genoobie> I just like to keep it clean
[03:16] <varun_> or "look" clean ;P
[03:16] <genoobie> to update the OS?
[03:17] <genoobie> software updater
[03:17] <varun_> the firmware dir will survive updates
[03:17] <genoobie> was going to install flash
[03:17] <genoobie> hold a sec, I am going to shut down this laptop
[03:17] <genoobie> and start xchat from lubuntu
[03:17] <varun_> go ahead..
[03:18] <genoobie> oh
[03:19] <genoobie> Updated software has been issued since 13.04 was released
[03:19] <genoobie> 177MB
[03:19] <genoobie> ughj
[03:20] <varun_> Mine has 640 MB pending.... ;)
[03:20] <Dr_Willis> and when installed.. takes up another 1mb of space. ;P
[03:20] <genoobie> yeah, I was happy with quetzal
[03:21] <rrm> no more support for 10.04.4 desktop?
[03:21] <varun_> Dr_Willis, not going to sacrifice that much.. lol
[03:21] <varun_> rrm, normally not, but what is your problem?
[03:21] <genoobie> I hoped that lubuntu would be lighter
[03:21] <genoobie> I want my kids to learn how to use a linux box
[03:21] <genoobie> screw windows
[03:21] <genoobie> but learn them both really
[03:22] <Dr_Willis> lubuntu is the lightest full featured desktop.
[03:22] <varun_> on the system, yes, on the download size, not much
[03:22] <Dr_Willis> but lubuntu is lacking in some features  many people want.
[03:22] <tekn33q> dont force your children to learn unix!!!!
[03:22] <rrm> @varun_  I can not run 12.04 LTS since no pae, I wanted centos 6.4 but that does not have pae either
[03:22] <tekn33q> thats mean
[03:22] <genoobie> Dr_Willis: like what?
[03:23] <varun_> rrm, how much ram do you have? And are you sure your CPU is not 64 bit?
[03:23] <Dr_Willis> genoobie:  just little things you may never notice.  unless you use the other desktops then wonder how to drag an icon from the menu to the desktop. or a panel. or why theres no right-click-to-share feature
[03:23] <varun_> genoobie, in order to learn Linux, your children don't have to learn to "screw windows".. :P
[03:24] <genoobie> yeah, I know
[03:24] <rrm> @varun_  ThinkPad R51, 1.5GHZ Pentium M, 2048Ram, 60GB HDD,
[03:24] <wilee-nilee> rrm, You can use the net install it has no pae.
[03:24] <genoobie> but I don't want to buy win7 or win8
[03:24] <genoobie> I am running xp
[03:24] <genoobie> pretty soon at the EOL
[03:24] <varun_> rrm, pae is required for more than 3.5 GB ram
[03:24] <Dr_Willis> its allready at EO. but its like a zombie that wont stay down.. ;P
[03:24] <grahamsavage_> genoobie: all modern os's are pretty much the same, so unless your training them how to use terminal commands
[03:24] <genoobie> :)
[03:25] <grahamsavage_> genoobie: i wouldn't say there's a great deal of difference between osx / windows / ubuntu from the UI side of things
[03:25] <varun_> rrm, just download Lubuntu or Xubuntu 32 bit (torrents are recommended), and install it.
[03:26] <genoobie> well grahamsavage_ I would disagree just a little
[03:26] <genoobie> xp requires a quite a bit more maintenance than linux imo
[03:26] <rrm> do they have a long term support?  I can do debian but that is a bit too hippy for me
[03:26] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage_, even less between OSX and stock Android
[03:26] <genoobie> from the perspective of browsing easily infected
[03:26] <genoobie> my kids are 10
[03:27] <genoobie> they go to those stupid flash game sites and wham
[03:27] <genoobie> computer is infected
[03:27] <varun_> rrm, Xubuntu has the long term support as far as I know, but Lubuntu not
[03:27] <grahamsavage_> genoobie: nooooo, your kidding .. ubuntu is much harder than xp.  xp has much wider range of device support (mainly because the manufacturers target windows) and in general you would have less problems even just for browsing
[03:27] <cfhowlett> rrm, next lubuntu 14.04 should be LTS
[03:27] <genoobie> grahamsavage_: yes
[03:27] <grahamsavage_> genoobie: i view ubuntu as the OS for people who dont' mind putting in the effort
[03:28] <Dr_Willis> does it really matter if it has LTS support or not? ;)
[03:28] <grahamsavage_> genoobie: I wouldn't recommend it to non-computer minded people though
[03:28] <varun_> genoobie, be aware of the flash games, they can cause issues on Linux too if "allow connection to internet" is not disabled.
[03:28] <cfhowlett> Dr_Willis, only if you'd prefer to avoid updating every 6 - 9 months ...
[03:28] <genoobie> varun_: good to know
[03:28] <genoobie> is that a flash setting or a game by game setting
[03:29] <varun_> genoobie, I was playing one on Gnash, and found it was connected to its server despite being an offline game.
[03:29] <genoobie> ugh
[03:29] <varun_> genoobie, it is the player's setting. I was using Gnash
[03:30] <varun_> by default, "Enable" was selected.
[03:30] <genoobie> well, the likelihood that a linux box will be infected is definitely much smaller than a windows box
[03:30] <genoobie> and just a tad bit easier to diag
[03:31] <genoobie> anyhow
[03:31] <varun_> genoobie, yeah, as long as you don't run it as root, it can't spread anything, but still - the behaviour was something unwanted and unexpected.
[03:31] <LinuxGold> each OS is tailored for a level of user -- I prefer linux cuz it got a lot of utilities that helps me to do what Winblowz can't do.
[03:31] <genoobie> now that the install is nearly compete I'm going to clonezilla
[03:31] <genoobie> put the img somewhere safe
[03:31] <genoobie> and wait until my kids break it
[03:31] <genoobie> :)
[03:31] <varun_> good idea - a very good one (clonezilla)
[03:31] <genoobie> this time it will be easier than a complete install
[03:32] <genoobie> varun_: thanks for the help btw
[03:32] <varun_> it was fun :)
[03:33] <genoobie> :)
[03:33] <genoobie> oh crap
[03:33] <genoobie> I knew I should have uninstalled the helper apps
[03:34] <varun_> What happened?
[03:34] <genoobie> when I updated, it just copied all new FW files into that dir
[03:34] <varun_> shouldn't be a prob.
[03:34] <genoobie> funny because it downloaded that 5.100
[03:34] <genoobie> hope you're right
[03:35] <varun_> packages are new, but the fw files are almost always the same.
[03:35] <genoobie> if that is the case I can just dpkg that linux-nonfree
[03:35] <varun_> Yup :)
[03:35] <genoobie> and it ought to overwrite them
[03:39] <missegg> I'm using gparted to copy the contents of one partition onto another. I got an error, "Input/output error during read on /dev/sda" What does it mean?
[03:40] <rrm> Holly cow, 1.8mb/s over LTE from xubuntu torrent, impressive
[03:40] <varun_> rrm, and it ensures the integrity of the downloaded data too :)
[03:41] <cfhowlett> rrm, torrents are definitely the way to get ISO's ...
[03:41] <genoobie> varun_: LTE?
[03:41] <genoobie> brb
[03:42] <missegg> I'm using gparted to copy the contents of one partition onto another.  I was going to look up the net ;)
[03:43] <cfhowlett> rrm, your are virtually guaranteed to get a fragged ISO via direct download.  do your MD5sum hash check before installing same.
[03:43] <grahamsavage_> varun_: no idea
[03:43] <cfhowlett> *you're*
[03:43] <varun_> missegg, there can be many reasons for the error you are getting, most common being a failing drive, loose connection of bad sata/pata port.
[03:44] <varun_> or*(
[03:44] <genoobie> yay
[03:44] <genoobie> I'm on my kids linux box
[03:44] <Gamer1990> okay guys i'm having some issues with my screensavers
[03:44] <fuleo> i did a cd /var/www and theres an error message. INPUT/OUTPUT error.
[03:44] <varun_> genoobie, so it survived the reboot?
[03:44] <missegg> varun_: Shall I stop the operation and do a disk check, or can I do it after?
[03:44] <fuleo> what does this mean...
[03:44] <genoobie> seems so
[03:44] <expo987> you know a way to automatically run a terminal command on login?
[03:44] <genoobie> now time to install flash anbd go to bed
[03:44] <genoobie> how difficult is it to install flash
[03:44] <varun_> missegg, you should check it first, else the copy may be corrupt too
[03:44] <fuleo> and i went to cd /var   and do an ls -la... it shows file permission as D?????????
[03:45] <fuleo> and owner as ????
[03:45] <Gamer1990> i get this error when i run memscroller
[03:45] <fuleo> and group as ????
[03:45] <fuleo> couldnt get into my /var/www
[03:45] <varun_> beer to everyone on behalf of genoobie ??
[03:45] <cfhowlett> genoobie, if you haven't already: set up the admin account for admin stuff and set up a normal desktop user account (non-privileged)  for daily use.  they can't install/delete system that way
[03:45] <rrm> @cfhowlett you know, i got centos 5.9 over ftp and was ok, depends of the network load i would say
[03:45] <Dr_Willis> expo987:  depends on what the command is doing. ;)
[03:45] <missegg> varun_: What if I want to finish homework before the millenium ends? Is it the worst thing ever to do this? I mean the original has had zero problems
[03:45] <missegg> varun_: To run the disk check after, I mean
[03:45] <Dr_Willis> expo987:  ~/.config/autostart/ is one place to put scripts and commands
[03:46] <varun_> missegg, of course you can. It's your priorities :)
[03:46] <Gamer1990> the error is unable to load font corier bold etc
[03:46] <missegg> varun_: As someone more experienced than me, what do you think the likelihood is of there being something seriously wrong?
[03:47] <genoobie> cfhowlett, okay
[03:47] <fuleo> guys... what does it mean if you run ls -la on your command console... and u see a folder with permissions as D?????????  lots of question mark. is this corrupt ?
[03:47] <expo987> Dr_Willis: i want to save thinkpad trackpoint settings
[03:47] <Dr_Willis> Gamer1990:  so install the font? check the repos for fonts. or it may be in the ms fonts package
[03:47] <genoobie> I created two user accounts, one for each kid
[03:47] <missegg> varun_: the partition I'm copying is all my stuff and my operating system. So far no horrible problems. Computer is a couple years old
[03:47] <cfhowlett> genoobie, nicely done.
[03:47] <genoobie> how do I restrict their usage?
[03:48] <expo987> Dr_Willis: Will that be okay?
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> genoobie:  restrict them in what way?
[03:48] <varun_> missegg, the only possible problem is a corrupt copy at the end. Worst case scenario - an unreadable partition on the target drive.
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> expo987:  installing fonts is rather trivial.
[03:48] <genoobie> well nevermind
[03:48] <genoobie> I'm going to clonezilla the machine
[03:48] <genoobie> so let them break it
[03:48] <cfhowlett> genoobie, these are normal desktop accounts?  restricted by default
[03:48] <ace_me> hi all ! I get in the log of a site  configuration error:  couldn't check user.  Check your authn provider!: /frontend_dev.php
[03:48] <expo987> Dr_Willis: Fonts? Wrong user ;)
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> !info ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> expo987:  why wouldent saveing settings be ok? sure you dont mean Load settings?
[03:49] <expo987> Dr_Willis: how would i do it
[03:49] <missegg> varun_: So if I ignored, finished copying, ran a disk check, and assuming it succeeded in repairs, deleted the old partition everything would probably be okay?
[03:49] <Gamer1990> i have installed ttf-mscorefonts-installer from synaptic
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> expo987:  make a script that does whatever command you want. put it in ~/.config/autostart/
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> Gamer1990:  search the repos/package manager for that font perhaps its in some other package
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> !fonts
[03:50] <varun_> missegg, repairs don't always work the way you think, they can sometimes 'change' the files which I'm sure you don't want. Better compare with the source, then delete.
[03:50] <expo987> Dr_Willis: how do you 'make' a script
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> expo987:  with a text editor
[03:50] <Gamer1990> i already have it
[03:50] <missegg> varun_: Compare? How can I do that?
[03:50] <Gamer1990> do i just reboot?
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> !abs
[03:51] <Dr_Willis> Gamer1990:  try logging out/back in?
[03:51] <Gamer1990> !ops ubottu
[03:51] <missegg> I was gonna laugh if it talked about workouts when you wrote abs.
[03:51] <Gamer1990> !seen gamer90
[03:51] <varun_> missegg, I'm not sure, but probably 'rsync' would be the fasted way to check/fix that. It copies data from source to destination 'Only' when there is a difference, ignores the data which is same.
[03:52] <missegg> varun_: Woah, I didn't think it could do it accross partitions.
[03:52] <Gamer1990> can someone please answer me?
[03:52] <missegg> varun_: Thanks. You've been extremely helpful and pleasant.
[03:52] <cfhowlett> !patience|Gamer1990,
[03:52] <varun_> missegg, yes it can, although it is usually used across network.
[03:52] <Gamer1990> do i have to reboot after installing the "ttf-mscorefonts-installer" package?
[03:52] <varun_> missegg, pleasure :)
[03:53] <Gamer1990> i'll be back in a few mins
[03:54] <missegg> varun_: Man I should use a feminine handle every time I'm in here. Now that's service
[03:54] <varun_> missegg, I didn't notice that until now :P
[03:54]  * fuleo change handle to miss_fuleo
[03:54] <varun_> lol !!
[03:55]  * varunendra thinks some people get confused by the "dra" part of the name ;)
[03:57] <Gamer1990> i'm back
[03:57] <Gamer1990> it works
[03:57] <Gamer1990> now i want to know something
[03:58] <Gamer1990> how do i get my hard drives to show up in linux?
[03:58] <Gamer1990> other than my ubuntu drive
[03:58] <varunendra> Gamer1990, using Xubuntu?
[03:59] <Gamer1990> no
[03:59] <Gamer1990> Lubuntu
[03:59] <Gamer1990> i have 6 sata drives
[03:59] <Gamer1990> 1 of which is my main os drive
[03:59] <varunendra> then you should be able to see their icons in the left pane when the file manager is open. Just click to mount/open them
[03:59] <Gamer1990> i have pcmanfm
[04:00] <varunendra> Doesn't it show the icons?
[04:00] <genoobie> hmm
[04:01] <genoobie> been googling a bit
[04:01] <Gamer1990> hold on
[04:01] <genoobie> will be using chromium
[04:01] <genoobie> not sure exactly how to install flash
[04:01] <Gamer1990> do i run PCManFM as root or standard user?
[04:01] <xangua> genoobie: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[04:02] <varunendra> Gamer1990, unless you have a very specific and justifiable reason, never use the file manager as root
[04:02] <memeanonymous> hola
[04:02] <memeanonymous> hola
[04:02] <Gamer1990> hi
[04:02] <varunendra> Gamer1990, I don't remember, but there used to be some utility to mount/unmount the partitions, not sure if it is part of pcmanfm or not
[04:02] <memeanonymous> spanish ???
[04:02] <memeanonymous> english??
[04:02] <Gamer1990> okay
[04:02] <Gamer1990> i speak canadian english
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> i thought the file manager showed them somewhere
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> !info ntfs-config
[04:03] <memeanonymous> i speak spanish BOLIVIAN
[04:03] <wilee-nilee> I thought the desktop on lubuntu
[04:03] <genoobie> xangua, will this be for all users?
[04:03] <wilee-nilee> !es | memeanonymous
[04:03] <Gamer1990> !es memeanonymous
[04:03] <xangua> genoobie: yes
[04:03] <memeanonymous> okay
[04:03] <genoobie> xangua thanks
[04:03] <Gamer1990> !spanish memeanonymous
[04:04] <memeanonymous> xDD
[04:04] <Gamer1990> i don't know much about this irc chat channel
[04:04] <genoobie> xangua anything to do after that?
[04:04] <genoobie> update or anything?
[04:04] <genoobie> restart?
[04:04] <Gamer1990> !ubuntu-es
[04:04] <DuncanNZ> Gamer1990: type  /join #ubuntu-es  to join it?
[04:05] <xangua> genoobie: enjoy laggy flash videos
[04:05] <genoobie> xangua any tips for flash video?
[04:05] <genoobie> or flash games?
[04:05] <DuncanNZ> Gamer1990: or type  !foo | bar  to tell bar about foo (eg: "es")
[04:05] <genoobie> (run xp I suppose)
[04:05] <Gamer1990> memeanonymous : En la mayor?a de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla s?lo en ingl?s. Si busca ayuda en espa?ol entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.
[04:06] <histo> !flash | genoobie
[04:07] <Gamer1990> is there a good PC emulation package?
[04:07] <Gamer1990> for lubuntu?
[04:07] <histo> Gamer1990: vbox or qemu
[04:09] <Gamer1990> which one is better vbox or qemu?
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> Gamer1990:  try them both.  it deoends on your needs
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> !wine | Gamer1990
[04:10] <histo> !best | Gamer1990
[04:11] <Gamer1990> okay
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> It very very much depends on what you want to run from the windows world. ;0
[04:32] <missegg> Oh geez, varnum_ isn't here
[04:33] <missegg> I've just cloned the contents of an extended partition to a new primary partition. How do I know which I have booted to?
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> see what the mount command says is mounted where
[04:34] <missegg> The extended partition is/was running my OS
[04:34] <missegg> Dr_Willis what command exactly
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> 'mount'
[04:35] <missegg> Dr_Willis JUST mount?
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> yes.....
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> and look at where / is mounted
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> !mount
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> mount
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> /dev/sda1 on / type ext4 (rw,noatime,nodiratime,discard,errors=remount-ro)
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> sda2 is my /
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> oops sda1 ;)
[04:36] <missegg> I'm trying
[04:36] <missegg> to post
[04:36] <missegg> and it won't let me
[04:36] <missegg>              /dev/sda6 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[04:36] <missegg> tada
[04:36] <FloodBot1> missegg: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:36] <missegg> Graah
[04:37] <al_la> hey all, quick question: cntl+alt+L locks screen, but is there a way to lock+turn screen off with shortcut command?
[04:37] <missegg> al_la super + L
[04:38] <missegg> al_la: I *think*
[04:38] <al_la> missegg by default in 13.04 that's not doing anything for me
[04:38] <missegg> al_la: I apologize for being useless
[04:38] <al_la> missegg: it's not as if I knew the answer :)
[04:39] <missegg> Dr_Willis, I had a primary with my OS, then I installed a second OS on an extended, then I deleted the original, then I created a new primary, then I copied the extended to the primary, and now I am trying to boot from that
[04:39] <Dr_Willis> id have to pull out the old 'go search on askubuntu.com' answer. ;) i bet they got a page/sheet of all the shortcts. also perss and hold the SUPER key to see a common list
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> missegg:  you copied as in CLONED/Imaged? if so i imagine you will need to correct your grub and fstab entries to match the new UUIDs
[04:40] <al_la> Dr_Willis tried and trying, no luck yet.  was hoping it was something obvious, will keep looking though.
[04:40] <missegg> Dr_Willis: I copied as in whatever gparted does when you copy + paste
[04:41] <Ben64> al_la: make a script to do it for you
[04:41] <missegg> Dr_Willis: But what you said sounds like it is probably the right thing to do. How may I do it
[04:41] <al_la> Ben64: yeah that's the only way I'm seeing to do it
[04:42] <Ben64> either make one to turn the screen off whenever its locked, or a new shortcut to do both
[04:42] <Ben64> i have my computer set up so when i walk in the room, the screen turns on and the lock is disabled automatically
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> missegg:  no idea. Id check that the uuids are in fact differnt. if they are the same. that may cause all sorts of issues
[04:43] <missegg> Dr_Willis: I don't know how to do that either.
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> missegg:  the uuids may be differnt if Gparted
[04:43] <Ben64> when you copy partitions, the uuid usually stays the same
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> !uuid
[04:43] <Ben64> and you can make the uuids whatever you want... /dev/sdc2: UUID="00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000064" TYPE="ext4"
[04:44] <missegg> Dr_Willis: They are exactly the same
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> if you are feeling brave.. change the one you DONT want to boot from/use ;)
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> tune2fs command can change the uuid
[04:44] <missegg> Ben64, Dr_Willis: How can I change one? What would I do after that to boot to the new primary?
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> there could be other things we are missing. Ive never bothered to switch drives this way
[04:45] <missegg> Ping me I don't know who you're talking to
[04:45] <missegg> or what you mean
[04:45] <Ben64> missegg: tune2fs can change UUID
[04:46] <Ben64> oh , Dr_Willis said that
[04:46] <missegg> Ben64: Oh geez, this command scares me.
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> you are the only one with a question at this time missegg  ;)
[04:47] <missegg> Dr_Willis: Great, I love attention
[04:47] <Dr_Willis>  [-U UUID]
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> tune2fs /dev/sda1 -U ENTER_NEW_UUID
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> (with a sudo at the front of course)
[04:47] <missegg> Dr_Willis: Awesome
[04:48] <missegg> Dr_Willis: it should have the same amount of digits and the same dashes, yes?
[04:48] <Ben64> 8-4-4-4-12
[04:54] <ur0pl> is there a way to remap just a certain key?
[04:55] <Daemonx> is there anything non-wine use for netflix sub silverlight ?
[04:55] <missegg> Dr_Willis: it should have the same amount of digits and the same dashes, yes?
[04:55] <missegg> Daemonx: Not at the moment
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> thats most likely a good idea missegg
[04:55] <missegg> Dr_Willis: Gracias
[04:55] <Ari-Yang> Daemonx, as of now.. no
[04:57] <ur0pl> i have a second hand keyboard for my netbook with a peace sign key, a heart key, and a music note key as extra keys. any of oyu seen these keyboards?
[04:58] <bluedogslim_> is there an easy way to install a .tar.gz file?  Rather than using command lines?
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> bluedogslim_:  No.
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> and how to inmstal it totally depends on whats IN that .tar.gz   that is JUST an archive
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> it culd contain anything
[04:59] <bluedogslim_> Ya, I'm noticing.
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> best to tell us what it is you want to do
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> and what is is you are installing
[04:59] <bluedogslim_> I want to install a printer driver
[05:00] <bluedogslim_> And its a tar.gz file.
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> and the printer is a?
[05:00] <bluedogslim_> Canon ImageClass MF4890dw
[05:00] <Myrtti> bluedogslim_: have you plugged it in yet for the first time?
[05:00] <bluedogslim_> I can't seem to get the scanner portion of it to work properly
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> Canon - eww. ;)  THere are many canon drivers in the repos - just not installed by default
[05:00] <bluedogslim_> Everything else works fine.
[05:01] <Myrtti> oh ok. You have.
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> the Scanner  part - does NOT use the printer drivers. ;) cups handles printing
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> SANE handles scanners
[05:01] <bluedogslim_> What is SANE?
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> its possible the scanner is not supported
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> !sane
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> SCANE is the 'set' of tools that use scanners
[05:02] <bluedogslim_> How do I know if my scanner is compatible with Sane?
[05:02] <Dr_Willis>  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners -
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> or the sane.org site
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> check at askubuntu.com may help also
[05:03] <missegg> Dr_Willis: the output of changing it was 'tune2fs 1.42 (29-Nov-2011)'
[05:03] <missegg> Dr_Willis: Does that mean I did it right?
[05:03] <crocket> hi
[05:03] <missegg> Hi, crocket
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> missegg:  i dont think you will noticve the uuid change untill you reboot
[05:03] <crocket> Does unity or ubuntu have an integrated PIM software?
[05:03] <bluedogslim_> Doesn't look like my scanner is supported.
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> bluedogslim_:  with canon - be happy the printer works at all
[05:04] <crocket> I want a deamon to notify me of events in the background.
[05:04] <missegg> Dr_Willis: sudo blkid says they are different now
[05:04] <bluedogslim_> Dr_Willis - what brand should I consider in the future?
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> The Canon company - does not support  linux very well
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> bluedogslim_:  anything NOT canon. :)
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> i perfer brother
[05:04] <missegg> Dr_Willis: I wrote the new one down.
[05:05] <bluedogslim_> Its sometimes tricky to pick a printer for ubuntu
[05:05] <crocket> anyone?
[05:05] <kostkon_> crocket, empathy?
[05:05] <crocket> what?
[05:05] <missegg> bluedogslim: I generally have very good luck with printers.
[05:05] <crocket> It's an IM software.
[05:05] <kostkon_> crocket, click on the envelope icon in the tray, then select chat
[05:06] <kostkon_> crocket, oh right. you said pi
[05:06] <crocket> I don't want chat.
[05:06] <missegg> kostkon_: I don't think that's what he's asking for
[05:06] <kostkon_> pim*
[05:06] <bluedogslim_> The issue isn't so much the printer. Its the extra features.
[05:06] <crocket> I want calendar.
[05:06] <bluedogslim_> ie - Scanner
[05:06] <crocket> calendar events.
[05:06] <crocket> I want to be notified of calendar events.
[05:06] <missegg> crocket: evolution calendar
[05:06] <crocket> missegg, Does it run in the background?
[05:07] <crocket> How about thunderbird lightning?
[05:07] <missegg> crocket: last I checked it was the ONLY calendar supported. Also yes
[05:07] <missegg> crocket: I think you still have to hook thunderbird into evolution in a special way to get it to work.
[05:07] <bluedogslim_> I'm here -
[05:07] <missegg> Dr_Willis, what do I do now?
[05:07] <missegg> Dr_Willis: If I reboot, will it let me boot to the primary?
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> missegg:  if you are lucky. it will see the new uuid and use that.
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> bluedogslim_:  in the future - buy seperate scanner/printers. ;) much less hassles
[05:10] <missegg> Dr_Willis: Okay, I'm putting my faith in you Doctor. Brb
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> missegg:  ive sayd ive never done this befor
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> thers dozens of things we could be missing
[05:10] <bluedogslim_> Dr_Willis - Its ok - Dont need the scanner. would be nice however
[05:11] <missegg> Dr_Willis: Your bedside manner is terrible.
[05:11] <bluedogslim_> I really do love ubuntu.
[05:11] <missegg> Dr_Willis: I'm gonna reboot
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> last canon printer i had.. decided that  the FullNew Blue Ink bottle that i spent $25 on.. was empty.
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> then it would work for a day.. then not for a week...
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> that one got gave away. ;)  Gone to Brother and not had issues since.
[05:12] <missegg> I don't know what the point of owning a printer is. It never seems cost effective, always painful.
[05:12] <Rimtech> i need help with the cisco vpn client vpnc can anyone help me? i want to create 2 vpn tunnels to 2 different vpn concentrators
[05:12] <missegg> Like a cell phone plan, you got to have one with a bunch of people.
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> my HP printer lasted me 13 yrs. ;)
[05:12] <missegg> Sorry, brb
[05:13] <bluedogslim_> Anyone know of a good mass email program ?   I have a mailing list I do once per month to my cients.  I can't seem to find anything on ubuntu
[05:13] <kostkon> !find mailing list
[05:13] <kostkon> :/
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> apt-cache search  mail list
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> perhaps
[05:14] <bluedogslim_> what does that do?
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> uses the package manager to search for packages
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> !apt
[05:15] <airtonix> Installing from source, is there something better than checkinstall?
[05:15] <BrodocK> anyone using ubuntu 13.10 and think it's "stable enough"? in other words... can I upgrade right now and make it not crash the video card?
[05:16] <bluedogslim_> hmmm   Hard to pick on
[05:16] <bluedogslim_> one
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> BrodocK:  its working fine for me. buut thats all i can say - its workng for ME. ;)
[05:16] <BrodocK> Dr_Willis: AMD or Nvidia video card?
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> BrodocK:  Nvidia here
[05:17] <BrodocK> thanks
[05:17] <missegg_> I think I need to update grub.
[05:17] <missegg_> I ran sudo update-grub. Should I do anything else?
[05:18] <Rimtech> i need help with the cisco vpn client vpnc can anyone help me? i want to create 2 vpn tunnels to 2 different vpn concentrators
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> you may want to use that boot-repair tool missegg_
[05:18] <missegg_> Dr_Willis: ?
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub
[05:19] <missegg_> Dr_Willis: Why would I need to
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> first url mentions boot-repair
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> it can fix most any grub issyes you may ever encounter
[05:19] <missegg_> Dr_Willis: I haven't had windows on this thing in years
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> why did you think you need to 'update-grub' ? ;)
[05:20] <missegg_> Dr_Willis: Because grub didn't know there was another partition with an OS on it?
[05:20] <missegg_> Dr_Willis: It wasn't listed as an option at boot
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> thought you dident want to boot that one? ;)   or was i thinking of someone else.
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> the switched OS worked ?
[05:20] <missegg_> Dr_Willis: Also gparted had a tool to generate to a new uuid all along. Why didn't you tell me, man?
[05:20] <missegg_> Dr_Willis: I don't know man, I only just updated grub.
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> missegg_:  and how many times did i say  Ive never done this specific task befor
[05:21] <missegg_> Dr_Willis: It's not a switched OS anyway, it's a clone of my current partition
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> missegg_:  boot-repair i imagone could have fixed it with the existing uuid;s also
[05:21] <missegg_> Dr_Willis: I bet you aren't even a licensed doctor
[05:21]  * Dr_Willis got his degree in Loveology, because he IS the dr of LOOOOVEEEE!
[05:22] <wilee-nilee> PhD=Dr
[05:23] <missegg_> Dr_Willis: Philology?
[05:23] <missegg_> Dr_Willis: You're a philiphile
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> Raspberry Piofile.
[05:24] <missegg_> Mm. Save me a slice ;)
[05:24] <missegg_> wink wink nudge nudge
[05:25] <missegg_> Okay, rebooting again.
[05:25] <missegg_> brb
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> seems theres work on the RaspberryPi to make it work as a ChromeCast Reciever.
[05:30] <root32> How to boot ubuntu from USB ?
[05:31] <porchao> live
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> make a bootable usb. plug it in.. power up.. tell pc to boot the usb
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> pendrivelinux web ste has several tools to make a bootable usb with
[05:32] <root32> Dr_Willis: What is it ?
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> what is 'what' ?
[05:33] <missegg> Y'know I would REALLY like to go to bed someday
[05:33] <root32> Dr_Willis: Several tools for make boot usb ?
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> root32:  the Pendrivelinux web site has a listing of such tools.
[05:33] <missegg> Dr_Willis: I chose sda1, but it booted to sda6 anyway
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> theres dozens of them  to choose from
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> missegg:  chose what where?
[05:33] <missegg> Dr_Willis: at boot
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> you mean at the GRUB menu?
[05:34] <missegg> Dr_Willis: it gave me a list of options
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> you have both os's  the 2 clones in the grub menu?
[05:34] <missegg> Dr_Willis: yes
[05:34] <missegg> Dr_Willis: and many different kernel choices as well
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> why not disable the one you dont want? thats what i culdent understand earlier why you were adding it back
[05:34] <missegg> Adding what back
[05:35] <missegg> I don't understand
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> If the grub configs tell the kernel to set / to be on sda6 then thats what it willuse for /.
[05:35] <missegg> I don't understand
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> Yep. i think thats part of the issue.
[05:35] <missegg> :\
[05:35] <missegg> I have an extension partition.
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> grub passes that UUID info to the kernel. that tells the  kernel where to look for /
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> exctended or primary dosent matter. its where its being told to look
[05:36] <missegg> I don't understand.
[05:36] <missegg> It said blah blah blah elementary kernel at sda1
[05:36] <root32> root32: Ok , i will check it..
[05:36] <missegg> I chose the most recent kernel at sda1
[05:36] <missegg> it booted to sda6
[05:36] <root32> Dr_Willis: Ok , i will check it..
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> may be time to read up on how grub2 works. I imagine your grub configs are  confused.  or you got 2 differnt os's messing with grub. so its not using the right configs
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> 'booted to sda6' as in.. / is now mounted to sda6 ?
[05:37] <missegg> Dr_Willis: Yes, I'm mounted on sda6
[05:38] <missegg> Dr_Willis: Like usual
[05:38] <missegg> Dr_Willis: But I wanted to boot to the clone
[05:38] <missegg> Dr_Willis: so that I could disk check, be sure they were the same, and then delete the extension and use the extra space for my primary
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> both os's have differnt UUID's now?
[05:39] <missegg> Dr_Willis: Basically I made a mistake a long time ago of only using an extension, and I couldn't get it to use the whole disk. Now I've run out of space
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> on al their partions?
[05:39] <missegg> Dr_Willis: Yes
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> id have to ssuggest trying that boot-repair tool it may notice somthing thats been overlooked
[05:40] <katti> my wirelless modem not detected in ubuntu
[05:40] <missegg> Dr_Willis: My goal is to have a normal primary partition that can use the whole disk space, minus the swap.
[05:41] <missegg> Dr_Willis: Right now I've got this fixed extension.
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> you mean 'extended' partition?
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> You can resize those
[05:41] <missegg> Dr_Willis: Not without a primary
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> you need to resize the Extended, then resize the logicals in it.
[05:41] <missegg> Dr_Willis: it wouldn't let me.  I just want a normal primary.
[05:43] <missegg> Dr_Willis: I don't want to deal with a bizarre set up after a hellish time trying to resize it.
[05:44] <missegg> Dr_Willis: What is the tool I need to use
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> Ive mentioned trying 'boot-repair' several times missegg
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> it can sort out most issues
[05:44] <missegg> Dr_Willis: It's not a known package.
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> did you look at the wiki page the bot said? it gives how to install it
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[05:45] <missegg> okay okay
[05:45] <missegg> hold up
[05:48] <missegg> Dr_Willis: It's doing stuff.
[05:52] <missegg> Dr_Willis: Holy moly. I can restore MBR with this thing??
[05:53] <missegg> Dr_Willis: Testing brb
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> now you know why ive mentioned it several times. ;)
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> hopefully someday - t will get on the default ubuntu cds
[05:58] <missegg> Aggh
[05:58] <missegg> Dr_Willis: It didn't work
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> and what is it doing exactly?
[05:58] <missegg> Dr_Willis: I chose sda1 and yet I'm mounted at sda6
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> and if you choose sda6 ?
[05:59] <missegg> Dr_Willis: I used recommended repair
[05:59] <missegg> Dr_Willis: uh
[06:00] <missegg> Dr_Willis: sda1 even has a boot flag
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> im not sure that grub/linux cares about the boot flag
[06:01] <missegg> Dr_Willis: Well I checked it for errors as well
[06:01] <missegg> Dr_Willis: I do not understand what is wrong
[06:01] <missegg> Dr_Willis: or why it hates this partition
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> look in the /boot/grub/grub.cfg   file
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> there will be some lines  that mention   root=UUID=(YOURUUID NUMBERS)
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> if those are pointing to the wrong UUID  then that may be the issue
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> bu that file is auto-generated by the grub tools. so not sure how best to make it sort it out
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> ALSO  YOU did alter your /etc/fstab ?
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> #Entry for /dev/sda1 :
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> UUID=96db155e-8d35-4766-8719-7af79fc82eac / ext4 discard,n
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> that UUID tells the system where to mount / to.
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> did you change the NEW installs UUID. or the old installs?
[06:05] <missegg> too many sentences and you're not pinging my Dr_Willis
[06:05] <missegg> hold up
[06:05] <missegg> Dr_Willis: first, the UUID is wrong it looks like
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> if your fstab is telling it to use / on the sda1   then thats what both os's will use. if their fstab is identical
[06:06] <missegg> Dr_Willis actually wait wait wait
[06:06] <dyay> Hi
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> howdys
[06:06] <varunendra> :P
[06:06] <missegg> I'm confused and you said way too much
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> reread it slowly i guess
[06:06] <missegg> I didn't touch /etc/fstab
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> fstab definds where / is at.. so sounds like thats your next step
[06:06] <missegg> I don't remember what the first thing you said was
[06:07] <missegg> You completely lost me
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> i imagine the grub files are corredt. its your fstab thats wrong
[06:07] <missegg> I haven't seen 80% of your messages
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> why not? we are the only 2 here.
[06:07] <missegg> The WHOLE CHAT is CONSTANTLY MOVING UP
[06:07] <missegg> There are new messages constantly
[06:07] <missegg> no
[06:07] <missegg> I cannot easily read your messages
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. Not for me. ;)  but you may want to figure out how to ignreo parts/joins in your client
[06:08] <missegg> You have to go at a pace that is reasonable. I don't care if it's not hard for you. Not everyone is you.
[06:08] <dyay> Can't you tilt your phone?
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> missegg:  bottom line -   check/fix your /etc/fstab to point to the right uuid for /
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> I stil have to wonder what new messages.. if you mean  'bubba has joined, bubba has left' you CAN turn those off in most irc clients
[06:09] <dyay> Really?
[06:10] <dyay> Not on andchat!
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> err.. Yes you can on andchat
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> I use andchat daily for 5+ hrs a day
[06:10] <dyay> And xchat..
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> xchat - you definatly can also
[06:10] <dyay> How?
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> used that for literally decades. ;)
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> well years
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> right click on a tab/channel name..
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> its in the xchat docs/faq i imagine.
[06:10] <dyay> How you turn the messages off?
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> andchat has it in the settings
[06:11] <missegg> Dr_Willis: I'm looking at fstab
[06:11] <missegg> Dr_Willis: it says it's static information
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> xchat has a conf_mode (conferance mode)
[06:11] <missegg> Dr_Willis: It's listing the mounted partitions
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> missegg:  the first line that defines /  here. mentions the UUID. you need to tell it the proper UUID for the partion you want it to mount to / when you boot up.
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> missegg:  i would alter  the /etc/fstab file on both installs. to be the same. and make them both mount / on  the primary partion you made.
[06:13] <missegg> Dr_Willis: I don't think this is a config file
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> you can even use the /dev/sdXX type name instead of UUID=####   if it makes it easier to read
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> you could pastebin your /etc/fstab
[06:13] <missegg> Dr_Willis: It looks weird
[06:13] <dyay> Why my wubi ubuntu 12.04 graphics drivers from nvidia always crash after around 2-4 months?!
[06:14] <missegg> Dr_Willis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6144303/
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> UUID=736c920a-1666-4edc-9e1b-9abf9e7aeaca /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> make that UUID point to the UUID of the partion you want to be /
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> what was the device you want to be / ?   sda2? or what exactly
[06:15] <missegg> Dr_Willis: sda1
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> and the UUID of sda1 is what?
[06:16] <missegg> Dr_Willis: The same, but instead of 1666 it is 1777
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> 'sudo blkid /dev/sda1' will show you
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> so.. you chante the fstab file to be                  UUID=736c920a-1777-   >the rest<
[06:17] <missegg> Dr_Willis: So I mount the clone and do the same to its fstab?
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> missegg:  yes. i would do it to both
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> booting either one will  then get your / to be on  sda1
[06:18] <malkauns> how do i get facebook to work using empathy on 13.04?
[06:20] <missegg> Dr_Willis: uh... it's mounted but how do I navigate to it? pantheon-files doesn't see it
[06:22] <missegg> Dr_Willis:?
[06:22] <scrapcode> I'm getting a lot of "Upgrade will continue but ... pkg may not be in a working state......." errors while upgrading to 13.04 - What's the deal? Is this popping up a lot for others
[06:23] <missegg> brb
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> Not seen anyone else mention it scrapcode
[06:24] <varunendra> scrapcode, upgrading from what? A previous version of Ubuntu?
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> but i imagine most people are either upgraded.. or waiting for 13.10
[06:25] <scrapcode> I uppped to 12.10 from 12.04 then this
[06:25] <scrapcode> Just realized it was out >_<
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> 13.04 has been out for almost 6 mo
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> 13.10 is due out  next month
[06:25] <scrapcode> It's at the "Installing the upgrades" step and has been spitting a few "Can
[06:25] <scrapcode> Can
[06:26] <scrapcode> Can't install this pkg" errors
[06:26] <scrapcode> Sorry, my keyboard is layed out weird.
[06:26] <varunendra> scrapcode, are you using PPAs?
[06:26] <missegg_> Dr_Willis: I changed fstab in sda6 but it still boots to sda1
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> change it in both?
[06:27] <scrapcode> varunendra: What's that?  Just finished: "The upgrade has completed but there were errors during the upgrade process" This should end well...
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> scrapcode:  ;)
[06:28] <scrapcode> And I just downloaded Ubuntu like a week ago, and 12.04 is what it gave me
[06:28] <varunendra> scrapcode, PPAs are third party repositories, used for third party software.
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> scrapcode:  12.04 is the latest 'LTS" release
[06:28] <missegg_> Dr_Willis: I don't know how
[06:28] <missegg_> Dr_Willis: I tried mounting but I didn't know how to get to the contents
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> missegg_:  use the shell. and  a text editor as root (sudo  vi /the/path/to/the/other/install/etc/fstab)
[06:29] <scrapcode> varunendra: Yeah, I've added a few for some things like Code::Blocks and Spotify, Skype...
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> missegg_:  or nano instead of vi
[06:29] <r02922070> j
[06:29] <scrapcode> I'll be back in a minute, going to reboot.
[06:30] <SpeedFire_laptop> Hi, Someone can help me to install bumblebee under ubuntu 12.04 ?
[06:31] <ljsoftnet> SpeedFire_laptop what does bumblebee do?
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> there should be some guides at askubuntu.com SpeedFire_laptop
[06:31] <SpeedFire_laptop> Its when you have 2 graphic cards on your laptop
[06:31] <ljsoftnet> two discrete or 1 integrated 1 discrete?
[06:31] <missegg_> Dr_Willis: first, vi sucks. I don't understand this. Second, permission denied.
[06:32] <missegg_> Dr_Willis: it is sudo and it is mounted
[06:32] <varunendra> missegg_, I think you wanted to boot to sda1 - "<Dr_Willis> what was the device you want to be / ?   sda2? or what exactly
 Dr_Willis: sda1"
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> missegg_:  what was the exact command you used?
[06:32] <missegg_> Yes
[06:32] <missegg_> sda1
[06:32] <SpeedFire_laptop> theses commands : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[06:32] <Pingu> codex, you there?
[06:33] <missegg_> Dr_Willis: I can't give you the exact one because vi behaves strangely and I hate it. I have to close terminal to get it to quit. I said sudo vi /dev/sda1/etc/fstab
[06:33] <missegg_> and got [permission denied]
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> missegg_:  i said you can use nano instead.
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> and that command is wrong
[06:34] <varunendra> missegg_, I think it may be helpful if we can take a look at current outputs of "sudo blkid" and "cat <path to desired partition for '/'>/etc/fstab"
[06:34] <Dr_Willis>   /media/themountpoint/etc/fstab
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> not /dev/sda1
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> missegg_:  to close vi -> esc :q
[06:35] <missegg_> Dr_Willis: I don't understand.
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> dont understand what?
[06:35] <Dr_Willis>  /dev/sda1 is NOT a mountpoint - its a device.   you use the path to the file. not /dev/ANYTHING
[06:35] <karab44> hello
[06:35] <missegg_> JESUS
[06:36] <missegg_> I did cat /dev/sda1 and unleashed hellfire
[06:36] <missegg_> I don't understand what you want from me
[06:36] <missegg_> I don't know what the damn path is
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> we are training you in whats rather core/fundamental stuff here missegg_
[06:37] <missegg_> Dr_Willis: Core fundamental stuff is using a GUI, smartypants. 99% of the population would never consider this core.
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> it may be time to read up on some bash basics.  as we said. /dev/sda1 is the 'partion'   you MOUNT a partition to a folder. ie:  /media/sda1
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> missegg_:  this is very very much core stuff here.
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> a path is not a device.
[06:37] <missegg_> Dr_Willis: Stop being condescending. If I knew everything I wouldn't be here.
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> missegg_:  you dont seem to be listening is the main problem. and you are expecting us to train you in  stuff you can learn from some basic guides.
[06:38] <viddy> He is not being condescending. He's trying to help you.
[06:38] <missegg_> viddy: He is doing one well and the other badly
[06:38] <varunendra> missegg_, do you have the partition mounted that you want to boot from? If yes, please show us the output of "mount" command.
[06:38] <missegg_> varunedra: I do, one sec
[06:39] <missegg_> varunendra: What should I be looking for in the output?
[06:39] <varunendra> missegg_, the "Female handle" not working anymore ? ;P
[06:40] <varunendra> missegg_, just pastebin the output, and give us its link
[06:40] <missegg_> varunedra: oh hush
[06:40] <varunendra> it'd be easier to suggest after taking a look at it
[06:40] <missegg_> kk, one sec
[06:40] <missegg_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6144365/
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> missegg_:  so what command did you use to mount sda1 earlier?
[06:41] <missegg_> Dr_Willis: the gparted option
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> i would suggest not doing that any more. but use the cli to mount.
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> you have sda6 and sda1 BOTH mounted to /
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> some how..
[06:42] <varunendra> missegg_, please show us the outputs of "sudo blkid" also.
[06:42] <missegg_> Dr_Willis: uh
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> im not even sure how thats possible. i would 'sudo umount /dev/sda1'  and see  if it lets you do it
[06:43] <missegg_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6144374/
[06:43] <missegg_> I'm magic, clearly.
[06:43] <missegg_> I've ascended past petty terminals.
[06:44] <varunendra> I've seen that the first time too, although knew it is theoretically possible..
[06:44] <missegg_> Oh God what have I done
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> varunendra:  ;)  now what one is actaually on /   heh.. best bet i would say - reboot to clean out all the weird mounts. agree?
[06:44] <missegg_> Well how was I supposed to unmount the partition I'm using?!
[06:44] <missegg_> Nobody told me to go to a live drive
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> missegg_:  you dont need to do it from a live drive.
[06:45] <missegg_> I'm a wizard, not a psychic.
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> you can use a live drive.. or not.
[06:45] <Daniel110> hi
[06:45] <varunendra> Dr_Willis, let's take a look at them separately first (unmount - remount on a different mount point)
[06:45] <Dr_Willis>  varunendra  yep.  if it lets that happen
[06:45] <varunendra> missegg_, now the output of "cat /etc/fstab"
[06:46] <varunendra> :P
[06:46] <Daniel110> my windows partition crashed and i can't log in, i really need to get a file saved in my windows parition i was wondering if there was a way to access it from my ubuntu parition
[06:46] <missegg_> varunendra: the output belongs to sda6
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> Daniel110:  the file manager, or cli should let you  mount windows partions and access the files
[06:46] <aeon-ltd> Daniel110: if it's mounted can you explore it?
[06:46] <missegg_> varunendra: It's the one Dr_Condescension had me edit
[06:46] <varunendra> we'll figure that out missegg_
[06:47] <missegg_> varunendra: I never edited the other one
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> missegg_:  i imagine very few people will jump in to help you  if you keep that up.
[06:47] <Daniel110> i never mounted a partition so i don't really know how it works
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> Daniel110:  use 'sudo blkid' to see what partion is the windows partion
[06:47] <varunendra> missegg_, just show us the output, then maybe pour yourself some coffee and get a huge sandwich, while we....
[06:48] <missegg_> Dr_Willis: I imagine very few people will jump to be helped by you if you're lecturing them about what they don't know in a support irc
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> missegg_:  your attitude is worse. good luck.
[06:48] <missegg_> Dr_Willis: not to mention rushing them with information
[06:48] <helmut_> hi
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> Howdy helmut_
[06:48] <varunendra> missegg_, output please, and change the coffee with some chilled cold drink
[06:48] <Daniel110> this is what i get http://pastebin.com/BapXMELD i pretty sure window is on sda1
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> Daniel110:  you got 3 possible windows partions. ;)  the file manager dosent show any of them at the left side of its screen?
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> Daniel110:  under 'devices' ?
[06:50] <missegg_> varunendra: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6144383/
[06:50] <miaqinas> hi there
[06:50] <Daniel110> ohh lol thanks yeah i found it
[06:50] <missegg_> varunendra: I think I was slightly high regarding my insistence of editing it
[06:51] <missegg_> varunendra: I'm so screwed for class tomorrow
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> Daniel110:  ;)  just never noticed them eh. :) now IF windows ever crashes badly - the system can refuse to mount the windows partions.
[06:52] <Daniel110> mm i see
[06:52] <manik_> Can somebody help me, I want to switch back from openbox to default after rebooting
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> manik_:  just select the desktop you want to use at the login screen?
[06:52] <manik_> I don't get that window where we have to choose
[06:52] <manik_> dr_willis
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> manik_:  what do you get then?
[06:53] <manik_> straight into openbox dr_willis
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> manik_:  so log out..  and select the one you want?
[06:53] <shashank_rusty> hi
[06:53] <manik_> I don't get any box from where I can select
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> or disable the auto-login feature of lightdm
[06:53] <missegg_> varunendra: You there buddy?
[06:53] <varunendra> missegg_, can you successfully do - "sudo umount /dev/sda1" ?
[06:53] <manik_> hmmm, how to do that? Dr_Willis
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> manik_:  alternatively  see if you got a .dmrc file   if so rename it so it uses the default
[06:54] <Daniel110> just for future references if the system refused to mount my windows files is there anything i can do to recover them?
[06:54] <missegg_> varunendra: It says it's busy
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> Daniel110:  depends on why it refuses. you can force a mount
[06:55] <varunendra> missegg_, and "sudo umount /dev/sda6" ?
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> manik_:  run 'gnome-control-center
[06:55] <missegg_> varunendra: uh should I do that?  But I'm not very sure..
[06:56] <miaqinas> hello
[06:56] <missegg_> varunendra: >_>
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> manik_:  your .dmrc file defines your last selection from the login screen.  there should be a gear icon  to select the sessions
[06:56] <missegg_> varunendra: woah
[06:56] <missegg_> varunendra: umount: cannot unmount /dev/sda6 -- /dev/sda1 is mounted over it on the same point
[06:57] <varunendra> missegg_, that's what baffled us as well :P
[06:57] <manik_> trying
[06:58] <missegg_> varunendra: Man, this is weird. Can I just restart? Shall I boot from the usb drive?
[06:58] <varunendra> missegg_, probably the only way to make things clear is a reboot. Are you sure both sda1 and sda6 contain bootable OSes?
[06:58] <manik_> Don't have gnome-control-center here (Lubuntu) Dr_Willis
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> manik_:  no idea what the lubuntu equilivent is.
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> what desktop are you wanting to ise manik_ ?
[06:59] <missegg_> varunendra: Well I don't know for sure with sda1, since it always boots to sda6 anyway
[06:59] <manik_> there must be a keyboard shortcut just after booting to bring that window, no? Dr_Willis
[06:59] <varunendra> missegg_, please wait a min..
[06:59] <missegg_> varunendra: But it has no errors and it appears to be a perfect clone
[06:59] <missegg_> oh
[06:59] <missegg_> ok
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> manik_:  not really. You have the loginmanager set to auto login.
[06:59] <manik_> LXDE and Openbox Dr_Willis
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> manik_:  you can change/rename your .dmrc file and it should go back to the system default
[07:00] <manik_> where should that file be? Dr_Willis
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> manik_:  in your home directory with all the other . (dot) files
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> manik_:  'mv .dmrc  backup.dmrc'  to rename it
[07:01] <varunendra> missegg_, a clone? I forgot that. Probably booting into a live session is a good idea. Other partitions won't mount automatically in it.
[07:01] <varunendra> missegg_, reboot with the USB, and let us know..
[07:02] <missegg_> varunendra: Yes. That's alright, I understand. i will be right back on the live drive.
[07:03] <nefsation> some one can help me with port forwarding
[07:03] <nefsation> ?
[07:04] <manik_> can't even open that now. Could you tell me its exact command to open the folder? (Sorry) Dr_Willis
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> manik_:  its a file.
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> manik_:  'mv .dmrc  backup.dmrc'   will rename the file
[07:05] <manik_> just that command? Dr_Willis
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> yes...
[07:05] <manik_> already did that
[07:05] <manik_> Should try and exit now Dr_Willis
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> so cat backup.dmrc    will show what was in it.  :) 2 lines i imagine
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> what desktop are you wanting to use anyway?
[07:06] <manik_> LXDE which is there in Lubuntu by default
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> yep. it should seelct that as the default
[07:06] <manik_> somehow I entered Openbox, and couldn't go back
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> disable auto login - its annoying. :)
[07:06] <missegg> Help, I'm exhausted
[07:07] <manik_> :)
[07:07] <missegg> varunendra
[07:07] <varunendra> missegg, so you're on live usb now?
[07:07] <missegg> varunendra: Yessir
[07:08] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys
[07:08] <varunendra> missegg, now please post the output of "sudo blkid" once more (the sda1, 2... may change in live session)
[07:08] <missegg> varunendra: I just want my computer to boot to sda1 so I can make sure it works, expand it, and get rid of sda6
[07:08] <Wiz_KeeD> I have two monitors in Ubuntu and I would like to setup a shortcut to move one application from a monitor to the other
[07:08] <manik_> Got it. Thanks, Dr_Willis!
[07:08] <Wiz_KeeD> I have used compizconfig in the past, is that the way to go?
[07:08] <missegg> varunendra: Yessir
[07:09] <varunendra> missegg, from your previous output, it looked to me as if it is already booting from sda1
[07:09] <missegg> varunendra: It did not, I mounted sda1
[07:10] <missegg> varunendra: and I was using data that was not on sda1
[07:10] <varunendra> lets see the output then missegg
[07:10] <sgo11> I am not sure how I can call the screen shown by pressing "Start" or "Alt+F1" button. is that possible to launch that screen through command line? thanks.
[07:10] <missegg> varunendra: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6144440/
[07:10] <sgo11> oh, I forgot to mention. I am using gnome3.
[07:11] <missegg> sgo11: Go to gnome for gnome questions
[07:12] <varunendra> missegg, please run Gparted and assign a label (like "part-6") to sda6, so that it can be easily identified.
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> sgo11:  you may want to look at the gnome-shell extensions if thats what you are using.  theres lots of added stuff you can do
[07:13] <missegg> varunendra: Done
[07:14] <varunendra> missegg, now close gparted, and see if you see two different partitions "Primary" and "<whatever you named the other>".
[07:14] <varunendra> in the file manager
[07:14] <sgo11> Dr_Willis, I don't think I need gnome-shell extension. thanks.
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> sgo11:  perhaps find a list of gnomeshell shortcuts then? ;) i tried gnomeshell for a few weeks and gave up on it. ;P
[07:15] <missegg> varunendra: I do
[07:16] <sgo11> let me try another question or way. is that possible to simulate a key press event in command line? I just want to write a script which can do the same thing when I press "start" button. thanks.
[07:16] <varunendra> missegg, what is the name of the other (for clarity)?
[07:16] <missegg> varunendra: sda6 is Old Blood, sda1 is New Blood
[07:16] <missegg> Don't laugh
[07:16] <sgo11> Dr_Willis, I knew the shortcut. "Start" button or "Alt+F1" are doing the same thing. I just want to trigger that event with a command. thanks. :)
[07:17] <varunendra> missegg, I already did, and continuing... anyway, click the "Old Blood" to see its contents. Does it have an "etc" folder?
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> sgo11:  its all in javascript.  If you are a java-scripting ninja perhaps.
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[07:17] <missegg> sgo11: in gparted?
[07:18] <missegg> varunendra: in gparted?
[07:18] <missegg> sgo11: disregard me
[07:18] <sgo11> Dr_Willis, I can do javascripting. but not sure how to achieve that in gnome. I will try gnome channel. thanks. :)
[07:18] <varunendra> missegg, close gparted. Open the file manager (which is Nautilus I assume)
[07:18] <sgo11> missegg, :)
[07:19] <missegg> varunendra: Shouldn't I mount them both?
[07:19] <varunendra> missegg, not yet
[07:19] <missegg> varunendra: NVM
[07:19] <manik_> Anybody here could tell why LXDE goes back to the default wallpaper after a reboot?
[07:20] <varunendra> missegg, we want to verify the contents separately. That's the whole point of booting live
[07:20] <peeps> hello, i have installed a dual boot of windows on my computer and now I can't get back into ubuntu.  i tried running "boot repair" but it doesn't seem to work
[07:20] <missegg> varunendra: I know I know I said nevermind
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> manik_:  first guess. some ofyour setting files in your users home - are accidently owned by root. so the user can set the setting. but not write the changes to the file
[07:20] <missegg> varunendra: am I pastebinning?
[07:20] <varunendra> missegg, the contents? No.
[07:20] <missegg> varunendra: Well, I've got it open
[07:21] <varunendra> missegg, if there is the "etc" dir, pastebin the "fstab" file in it. (from Old Blood)
[07:21] <missegg> varunendra:  I just asked that... okay
[07:21] <manik_> Dr_Willis Goes like this since installing the OS.
[07:22] <qin_> sgo11: xdotolls yuo after?
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> manik_:  test with a newly made user.. or look at the settings files.
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> manik_:  or both. ;)
[07:23] <sgo11> qin_, thanks. i am installing xdotools
[07:23] <missegg> varunendra:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6144465/
[07:23] <sgo11> qin_, "xdotool key Alt+F1" works very well. thanks.
[07:23] <git-user> This is a new laptop that came with Ubuntu pre-installed. I enabled security repository and updated linux-image-generic and linux-headers-generic, but I got an "Bad return status for module build on kernel" error. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6144468/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/6144464/
[07:23] <manik_> hehe okay Dr_Willis
[07:24] <varunendra> missegg, now unmount this partition (click on the "Eject" button) > mount the "New Blood" and pastebin the "etc/fstab" from that one.
[07:24] <miaqinas> peeps> hello, i have installed a dual boot of windows on my computer and now I can't get back into ubuntu.  i tried running "boot repair" but it doesn't seem to work
[07:24] <zexcriz> when ever i am installing any softwares i am getting this error ->  Erros were encoutered while processing : man-db cups, hplip, hplip-gui.
[07:24] <varunendra> missegg, NVM ;P
[07:25] <miaqinas> * peeps has quit (Client Quit)
[07:25] <missegg> varunendra:  They both automounted anyway
[07:25] <zexcriz> any help it's been more than week but no solution yet :(
[07:26] <missegg> varunendra:  -1777- is New Blood's uuid
[07:26] <auscompgeek> miaqinas: sounds like you need to fix grub
[07:26] <auscompgeek> !dualboot
[07:26] <wilee-nilee> miaqinas, You save the bootinfo summary url?
[07:27] <miaqinas> no..
[07:27] <wilee-nilee> miaqinas, Is the windows install W8?
[07:27] <root32> i installed ubuntu 12.4 , but when start Say : Error Load operating system.. , why ?
[07:27] <varunendra> missegg, and you want to boot from sda1? Not (read "Never") from sda6?
[07:28] <auscompgeek> root32: could you send us the exact error message you get?
[07:28] <missegg> varunendra:  uuh
[07:28] <missegg> varunendra: I want to boot from sda1
[07:28] <miaqinas> no..i dint installing W8
[07:28] <auscompgeek> zexcriz: tried apt-get -f ?
[07:28] <missegg> varunendra: but I still want to be able to check it agains sda6
[07:28] <auscompgeek> miaqinas: take a look at the first link ubottu sent above
[07:29] <miaqinas> k thank you very much
[07:29] <wilee-nilee> miaqinas, run the bootinfo summary in the bootrepair app only and post the url that is made to it.
[07:29] <missegg> varunendra: there was a small error when I was cloning. i checked the disk, but I still want to be 100% sure it's a good clone
[07:30] <varunendra> missegg, do you have both the partitions mounted? We need to edit or swap both the fstab files.
[07:30] <missegg> varunendra: yess
[07:31] <varunendra> missegg, close the file manager, and open it as root (gksu nautilus).
[07:31] <missegg> varunendra: yessir
[07:31] <root32> auscompgeek: Sorry , it Say : Missing Operating System..
[07:31] <missegg> varunendra: next?
[07:31] <miaqinas> so..to make dual OS..need a make partitiona 1st?
[07:31] <git-user> sorry, got disconnected, say again.
[07:32] <git-user> others are facing similar problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/330979/wireless-adapter-connection-error
[07:32] <varunendra> missegg, now browse to one fstab, cut-paste it to the desktop > browse to the other > cut-paste it to where the first was > move the desktop one to the second one's location.
[07:32] <varunendra> missegg, so that both are swapped
[07:32] <missegg> varunendra: Why am I doing that?
[07:33] <varunendra> missegg, because each one needs to reflect the UUID of the partition it is on.
[07:33] <zexcriz> auscompgeek,  apt-get -f ? what should i do ?
[07:33] <miaqinas> Installing Ubuntu after Windows..i got it..thanks
[07:34] <varunendra> missegg, currently, both are mounting the other partition, not the one they themselves are on.
[07:34] <root32> After the ubuntu install error message : Missing Operating System :(
[07:35] <auscompgeek> root32: you'll have do a boot repair
[07:35] <missegg> varunendra: It is done my liege
[07:35] <auscompgeek> zexcriz: open a terminal and type in sudo apt-get -f
[07:35] <auscompgeek> zexcriz: hopefully that'll fix things
[07:35] <root32> auscompgeek: how to do it?
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> root32:  could be you are booting the wrong hard drive. or need to use that boot-repair tool to fix it
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> root32:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[07:36] <SpeedFire_laptop> a boot repair ? why ?
[07:36] <varunendra> missegg, now reboot with the hard disk this time, don't mount any partitions after booting, and check if "sda1" is mounted ("mount" command). I assume only sda6 will mount, which we'll fix then
[07:37] <missegg> varunendra: Do I attempt to boot to sda1?
[07:37] <missegg> varunendra: or do I let it go to sda6
[07:37] <varunendra> missegg, do you get the grub menu?
[07:38] <missegg> varunendra: Always have
[07:38] <varunendra> missegg, do you have the other one listed already?
[07:38] <zexcriz> auscompgeek, sudo apt-get -f does nothing, it's an uncomplete command.
[07:38] <missegg> varunendra: Yes
[07:38] <zexcriz> s/uncomplete/incomplete
[07:38] <usr13> missegg: Shift Key
[07:38] <varunendra> missegg, then go ahead, boot the one on sda1
[07:38] <missegg> varunendra: I try to choose sda1 but it never goes to it
[07:39] <missegg> varunendra: It always boots to sda6 as normal
[07:39] <varunendra> missegg, this time it should
[07:39] <missegg> varunendra: okay
[07:39] <missegg> brb
[07:42]  * Dr_Willis hands varunendra  a cookie
[07:42]  * varunendra desperately needed it ;P
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> varunendra:  this is going on like 6 hrs now.
[07:43] <varunendra> Dr_Willis, height of expectations sometimes.. :)
[07:43] <missegg> Ugh
[07:44] <missegg> Being Egg is suffering
[07:44] <varunendra> missegg, fresh output of mount? Any better?
[07:44] <missegg> varunendra: no
[07:44] <missegg> varunendra: Exactly the same as it's been for the past four hours
[07:44] <varunendra> missegg, let's see it then
[07:45] <missegg> varunendra: It's sda6
[07:45] <missegg> varunendra: I have to sleep
[07:46] <varunendra> missegg, Please do - "sudo update-grub", then reboot (I hate to say that word, but..) and try booting to the other one (sda6)
[07:46] <varunendra> ohsosoft, okay missegg
[07:46] <missegg> varunendra: okay okay
[07:46] <wilee-nilee> I would just use super grub to see if sda1 boots it had an error in the copy.
[07:46] <varunendra> ohsosoft, sorry, didn't mean you
[07:47] <missegg> wilee-nilee: Hm?
[07:47] <missegg> wilee-nilee: I thought it might have, but I checked it for errors
[07:47] <missegg> brb rebooting
[07:48] <wilee-nilee> missegg, Has sda1 ever booted yet?
[07:48] <missegg> wilee-nilee: No
[07:48] <varunendra> wilee-nilee, if they never did an "update-grub", I would think it is all normal behaviour, the sda1 listing in grub menu could be a result of messed up fstab.
[07:48] <missegg> I did update-grub multiple times
[07:48] <varunendra> missegg, once more :)
[07:49] <missegg> ok.
[07:49] <missegg> brb
[07:49] <wilee-nilee> sure, but an easy check by manually booting it or using super grub to it would answer a few questions, if it boot load grub to the mbr from its desktop and confirm the fstab.
[07:49] <wilee-nilee> boots*
[07:50] <varunendra> wilee-nilee, perhaps the next, probably the last recommendation would be boot-repair? I think it can easily fix it all.
[07:51] <varunendra> although I may attempt doing it manually with "grub-install"
[07:51] <varunendra> from live session
[07:51] <wilee-nilee> yeah might do it, clones in the same HD are a tough one, even if you change the uuid, we have to assume that change worked right.
[07:51] <missegg_> Nope nope nope
[07:52] <missegg_> tears for Egg, tears eternal
[07:52] <varunendra> missegg_, mount shows both sda1 and sda6 mounted? or just sda6?
[07:52] <missegg_> varunendraL
[07:53] <missegg_> varunendra: the same as the last four freaking hours
[07:53] <missegg_> varunendra: just sda1
[07:53] <missegg_> varunendra: just sda6
[07:53] <missegg_> varunendra: I meant 6
[07:53] <varunendra> missegg_, I'm confused. Only sda6, right? That's expected
[07:54] <missegg_> varunendra: JUST SDA6
[07:54] <missegg_> varunendra: EVEN THOUGH I CHOSE SDA1
[07:54] <missegg_> varunendra: AND WANT SDA1
[07:55] <varunendra> missegg_, forget what your current grub menu tells you.  Why is it so damn hard to create a new partition, put an OS on it, and boot to it
[07:57] <varunendra> missegg_, let's just reinstall grub, with correct config this time (hopefully)
[07:58] <missegg_> varunendra: I did that earlier and it did nothing
[07:58] <varunendra> missegg_, how did you do it? And earlier, your fstab wasn't correct as far as I know
[07:58] <wilee-nilee> varunendra, I would chroot sda1 and purge and reload grub and then its bootloader to the mbr
[07:59] <missegg_> varunendra: with boot-repair like Dr_Willis said
[07:59] <varunendra> wilee-nilee, how about "sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/<mountpoint of sda1> sda" ??
[08:00] <wilee-nilee> varunendra, Might work, if not I would purge it, persoanlly I would do it all since you would be chrooted in is all.
[08:00] <varunendra> missegg_, please open the file manager and confirm that "New Blood" is not already mounted.
[08:00] <perpustakaanfibu> gjhfh
[08:00] <missegg_> For some reason New Blood is mounted now
[08:00] <perpustakaanfibu> gfjhfgjhfgjh
[08:00] <varunendra> missegg_, already?
[08:00] <missegg_> After running boot-repair, yeah
[08:01] <missegg_> I can actually go to its directory now
[08:01] <missegg_> It's not doing something crazy like earlier
[08:01] <varunendra> missegg_, I would think that it corrected it now.
[08:01] <varunendra> since the fstab is fixed
[08:01] <missegg_> varunendra: So now what
[08:02] <varunendra> reboot to check, if not fixed yet, we'll do it manually
[08:02] <missegg_> uuuuuuuuugh
[08:02] <missegg_> brb
[08:03] <varunendra> wilee-nilee, I've never tried chroot, so it just scares me ;P
[08:04] <varunendra> although theoretically it seems the perfect remedy
[08:04] <tiffany22> Hi there, can somebody help me please. I have serious problem with my browsers
[08:05] <lkthomas> hey guys, is there have any program help to connect cifs or nfs ?
[08:06] <varunendra> !details | tiffany22
[08:06] <tiffany22> ok, so facebook and youtube render weird.. like it's only text, no images or CSS styles
[08:06] <wilee-nilee> varunendra, Yeah, I use this when I chroot it has one all in one command #8 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot
[08:06] <tiffany22> same problem on both Chrome and Firefox
[08:07] <tiffany22> some other sites work ok, some have same problem
[08:07] <lkthomas> unity seem not that user friendly
[08:08] <teeenooo> What would Jesus do if my kernel crashed?
[08:08] <wilee-nilee> lkthomas, It's not the same as gnome 2 is all.
[08:08] <wilee-nilee> pray
[08:08] <lkthomas> wilee-nilee: tools is not enough
[08:09]  * lkthomas go ahead to install KDE instead
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> lkthomas:  cifs = samba shares right?   Sometimes a fresh mind can do miracles, and a tired one can do 'different' kind of miracles.. ;P
[08:16] <aeon-ltd> missegg: you should post on the forum if you don't want to use up too much time
[08:16] <tiffany22> wilee-nilee: yes :(
[08:16] <missegg> IdleOne when families actually go to IRC channels I will care more
[08:17] <wilee-nilee> tiffany22, Has it been this way from the beginning, what caused it do you know?
[08:17] <IdleOne> missegg: I understand you are frustrated but that is no reason to use bad language, not to mention it is part of the guidelines of the channel.
[08:17] <aeon-ltd> it's not families it's <18 in general, plus anyone can find it offensive
[08:17] <varunendra> missegg, ubuntu has it's culture nonetheless
[08:18] <tiffany22> wilee-nilee: no, it was working okay for several months, it started happening few days ago
[08:18] <missegg> It's 4am, culture has left me.
[08:18] <aeon-ltd> missegg: what's the problem again?
[08:18] <varunendra> missegg, so a break or try more right now?
[08:18] <wilee-nilee> tiffany22, Make a new user and see if it is the same there.
[08:18] <tiffany22> wilee-nilee: okay
[08:19] <varunendra> aeon-ltd, cloned a root partition, can't boot into the desired one now, that's all with missegg
[08:19] <missegg> aeon-ltd: I installed Ubuntu. i installed eOS (ubuntu with another DE) on an extended partition. I liked that better. I used it instead. I deleted the old one. I tried to expand it to the whole disk. I was told that was impossible. i cloned it to a new primary.  They are the same damn operating system.   Missed all the fun ... again!"
[08:24] <tiffany22> wilee-nilee: it doesn't work on other account
[08:24] <wilee-nilee> tiffany22, Hmm, we have had kernel updates lately, have you tried an earlier kernel from the grub menu?
[08:25] <dejanfc> hi, does anyone know of a good web based frontend for openssl?
[08:25] <tiffany22> wilee-nilee: no.. should this help?
[08:25] <ikonia> dejanfc: front end for openssl ? what do you mean ?
[08:25] <dejanfc> to issue certs
[08:25] <dejanfc> instead of typing it out in cli
[08:25] <ikonia> no, but you may want to try #openssl
[08:26] <dejanfc> cheers
[08:26] <wilee-nilee> tiffany22, It's hard to say, some info that may of caused it would help me, I have to some what guess since you are getting some of the web page.
[08:26] <tiffany22> wilee-nilee: I just noticed that same thing is happening on my android
[08:27] <tiffany22> wilee-nilee: could this be cause by some problems from ISP?
[08:27] <wilee-nilee> tiffany22, we had a flash update lately as well, but that was chrome you showed it has its own flash. Hard to say about the ISP.
[08:30] <auscompgeek> zexcriz: oops. sudo apt-get install -f
[08:30] <auscompgeek> zexcriz: sorry about that, got sidetracked with other stuff
[08:32] <zexcriz> auscompgeek, even executing those command i am getting the same error.
[08:33] <zexcriz> any experienced ubuntu user ? i can't find any way to solve this :(
[08:34] <auscompgeek> zexcriz: what were you installing the first time you started getting these messages?
[08:34] <pop_> Hi.. I just had my ubuntu server crashed.. It was completely stuck so I had to do hardware reset.. Now when I check the logs, there is nothing there... Actually it looks like it crashed while writing to log because there is half written log data (half line of data and it continues with with another entry!) in many log files..!
[08:35] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-server|pop_,
[08:35] <zexcriz> auscompgeek, don't remember exactly as this is the error i am getting from over a month.
[08:35] <irssi-mike> pop_: did it run out of space
[08:35] <wilee-nilee> zexcriz, the command is sudo apt-get -f install but have you changed the sources.list at all in this?
[08:36] <pop_> irssi-mike: No, there should be 50+ gigabytes space still
[08:36] <wilee-nilee> zexcriz, What ubuntu release is it, as well?
[08:36] <zexcriz> wilee-nilee, i have not changed anything. i am using ubuntu 13.04
[08:36] <zexcriz> in sources.list
[08:37] <wilee-nilee> zexcriz, run sudo apt-get update and pastebin all of it/
[08:37] <zexcriz> wilee-nilee, sudo apt--get update goes fine no errors in it.
[08:38] <wilee-nilee> zexcriz, So it is a specific install right, which is? is there a ppa involved?
[08:38] <Ben64> zexcriz: pastebin it anyway
[08:38] <zexcriz> wilee-nilee, even not using any specific ppa.
[08:39] <zexcriz> ok
[08:39] <wilee-nilee> zexcriz, so run sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and pastebin all of it.
[08:39] <zexcriz> wilee-nilee, ok doing it
[08:44] <grammoboy> I cant install packages http://fpaste.org/41464/92583513/
[08:44] <zexcriz> http://dpaste.com/1392566/
[08:44] <zexcriz> Ben64, wilee-nilee ^
[08:45] <param> how to add user hduser (hadoop user) into sudoers file
[08:45] <wilee-nilee> grammoboy, seems important, "No space left on device"
[08:45] <ikonia> grammoboy: you're out of disk space
[08:45] <Gentoo64> param: to allow root use?
[08:45] <param> yes probably
[08:45] <cfhowlett> grammoboy, time to clean up.  sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoremove should help
[08:45] <grammoboy> ikonia: http://fpaste.org/41465/99259361/
[08:46] <Gentoo64> param: you could add it to the wheel group
[08:46] <param> i got the error : hduser is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[08:46] <param> i was trying to edit a file in etc
[08:46] <cfhowlett> grammoboy, yep.  you've definitely filled that HDD!
[08:46] <ikonia> grammoboy: yes, no space there
[08:47] <ikonia> Gentoo64: it's not the wheel group
[08:47] <grammoboy> heh where do you see 100%?
[08:47] <param> can you please tel me the command to add this hduser into sudoers
[08:47] <Gentoo64> ikonia: ok
[08:47] <ikonia> grammoboy:look at the %96 - and how much space is left
[08:47] <ikonia> param: the "sudo" gropu
[08:47] <ikonia> group
[08:47] <Gentoo64> normally wheel will let you
[08:47] <ikonia> no
[08:47] <Ben64> Gentoo64: not on ubuntu
[08:47] <param> wheel ?
[08:48] <Gentoo64> no thats why i said normally
[08:48] <ikonia> Gentoo64: have you looked at the sudoers file in ubuntu ?
[08:48] <Ben64> then why even say it here?
[08:48] <ikonia> param: add the user to the "sudo" group
[08:48] <param> how to add it ?
[08:48] <cfhowlett> grammoboy, 96% + system reserved by ubuntu of about 5% = 101%
[08:48] <ikonia> param: user the user admin gui
[08:48] <param> is tht the comand ?
[08:49] <wilee-nilee> zexcriz, the info in the dist-upgrade should be helpful, I'm not quite sure how to read that and offer help. My wonder is how and where that broken stuff came from.
[08:50] <zexcriz> wilee-nilee, it's been quite long time i am facing this prob.
[08:50] <zexcriz> the prob is with the man-db package
[08:51] <zexcriz> if i remove it everything works fine
[08:51] <wilee-nilee> zexcriz, What was the original install, and where is it from?
[08:51] <zexcriz> wilee-nilee, can't get you ?
[08:52] <Han> Can somebody turn on http://doc.ubuntu.com again? :P
[08:52] <cfhowlett> Han, http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://doc.ubuntu.com
[08:52] <wilee-nilee> zexcriz, this stuff, you have 6 broken packages. /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/DbDriver/File.pm
[08:53] <wilee-nilee> whatever that is attached to, I don't recognize exactly what it is, whatever you removed did not get everything is my guess,
[08:55] <wilee-nilee> zexcriz, I'm not sure what you mean by "if i remove it everything works fine" this happens then when you try a install of the same thing again?
[08:55] <Han> cfhowlett, you tell me something which I already know. It's down.
[08:55] <zexcriz> wilee-nilee, when i am install man-db packages probs are created
[08:55] <zexcriz> then i can't install even a single package.
[08:55] <grammoboy> chicken egg problem http://fpaste.org/41467/79926542/
[08:56] <zexcriz> but after removing it atleast i can install and remove the packaged though the errors remain.
[08:56] <oaulakh> how to install nvidia driver
[08:56] <oaulakh> ?
[08:56] <cfhowlett> !nvidia|oaulakh,
[08:56] <zexcriz> grammoboy, may be your / partition is full ?
[08:56] <wilee-nilee> zexcriz, Ah, I have never messed with that I rarely use man, so just not sure.
[08:57] <cfhowlett> zexcriz, tis.  trying to clean it out ...
[08:57] <zexcriz> wilee-nilee, even i have not messed with it, but when i started getting errors, i figured out that by removing man-db i can atleast install stuff.
[08:57] <cfhowlett> grammoboy, are you dual booting ?
[08:58] <grammoboy> don t think so
[08:58] <cfhowlett> grammoboy, does this computer also run windows?
[08:58] <wilee-nilee> zexcriz, Wish I could figure it out, I gotta crash, hope you get it resolved.
[08:58] <grammoboy> no why?
[08:59] <varunendra> grammoboy, please show us the output of  "df -h"
[08:59] <cfhowlett> grammoboy, would have suggested you repartition to add some space but since you don't ...
[09:00] <grammoboy> http://fpaste.org/41465/99259361/
[09:00] <cfhowlett> grammoboy, this is going to sound crazy but ... are you running fedora?
[09:00] <grammoboy> that sounds crazy
[09:01] <grammoboy> come on guys, ive a full disk but cant use autoremove
[09:01] <grammoboy> chicken egg that is
[09:01] <cfhowlett> grammoboy, that doesn't answer the question.  your paste says "fedora" so ... are you running fedora?
[09:01] <ikonia> grammoboy: "clean down the disk"
[09:02] <ikonia> grammoboy: look at what's using the space, clear it down, exeand the partition,
[09:02] <param> problem solved thanks :)
[09:03] <eleasar221> I am using Sony VAIO VPCEB24EN laptop. After installing Ubuntu 12.04 or Lubuntu 13.04 my laptop CPU makes a terrible noise.
[09:03] <eleasar221> Please advise how to fix this.
[09:04] <cfhowlett> eleasar22, lubricate the fan?
[09:04] <cfhowlett> eleasar22, for the record, cpu's don't make audible noise under normal circumstances ...
[09:05] <Dr_Willis> unless you got uber hearing and can hear the electrons zipping around? ;)
[09:05] <eleasar221>  @cfhowlett: no boss
[09:05] <varunendra> Dr_Willis, or unless it is cracking with heat.. :P
[09:06] <zippo^> why has ubuntu 12.04 installed little theme's as Radiance , Ambiance?
[09:06] <zippo^> I want Human theme too
[09:06] <eleasar221> @cfhowlett: cpu making noise after installing lubuntu but no noise when using windows 7
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> eleasar221:  now the cpu or video FAN running at high speed - is a common bug in linux.
[09:07] <varunendra> eleasar221, what is your graphics card. Is everything performing nicely other than the sound?
[09:09] <cfhowlett> eleasar221, cpu's don't make noise within the range of human hearing ...
[09:09] <eleasar221> @varunendra: ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 5145 Graphics
[09:10] <eleasar221> @varunendra: any advise please? Graphics card : ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 5145 Graphics
[09:10] <eleasar221> Thanks cfhowlett
[09:10] <varunendra> eleasar221, not very familiar with graphics drivers, but I think the proprietary fglrx drivers work better than the native radeon driver (or it's the opposite of it)
[09:11] <cfhowlett> !ati
[09:11] <varunendra> eleasar221, are you using the proprietary driver for it?
[09:11] <Soul_Sample> well, that's the case usually. i get really high temperatures when using anything but the proprietary driver
[09:12] <eleasar221> @varunendra: no
[09:12] <varunendra> eleasar221, probably the link cfhowlett gave can offer better help than I can, but does "Additional Drivers" program offer any proprietary driver for it?
[09:14] <varunendra> eleasar221, see Soul_Sample 's testimony for the proprietary drivers (although it is not 'always' the case with everything) ;)
[09:15] <fotoport-1> i need help
[09:15] <eleasar221> ok varunendra..thanks
[09:15] <Soul_Sample> lol testimony :D but yeah, I can cook on my laptop before installing fglrx
[09:15] <varunendra> np :)
[09:16] <kk_> hi
[09:16] <kk_> test
[09:16] <kk_> test for first chat
[09:16] <kk_> never
[09:16] <cfhowlett> eleasar221, choose your battles.  Sounds like 2 issues are in play;  the fan is running long & loud and the graphics driver may be wrong.  Those 2 problems have been observed to occur together.  First see to your graphics.  That might fix the fan issue.
[09:16] <fotoport-1> on all versions starting with 11, two and a printer attached to one computer do not print. Printing stops when you send a job to the second printer. Printers epson T50 . I put ubuntu 11.04 11.10  12.04 Ubuntu Saucy Salamander 13.10. yesterday tried to run on 12.04  /etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf     blacklist usblp   did not work and divided into groups
[09:17] <cfhowlett> !test|kk_, yes we see you.
[09:17] <kk_> many thanks
[09:18] <eleasar221> Okay cfhowlett. I will check.. Thank u so much
[09:18] <cfhowlett> eleasar221, take your time and follow the steps.  I suspect it's an easy, if difficult to localize, fix.
[09:20] <eleasar221> Sure cfhowlett.. Thanks
[09:23] <fotoport-1> somebody help me?
[09:24] <mooperd> What is the current Ubuntu kernel?
[09:24] <mooperd> is the main release on 3.1 yet?
[09:28] <Dr_Willis> 13.10  has 3.11.0-7-generic  I dont think 13.04 has  that new a kenrel. yet. ;)
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> mooperd: what is the 'main release'?
[09:31] <mooperd> ActionParsnip: er 13.04 I guess?
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> mooperd: thats just the latest stable, nothing 'main' about it
[09:32] <IdleOne> 13.04 is using 3.8.0-31
[09:32] <mooperd> IdleOne: Slightly more advanced than the redhat folks then
[09:33] <user258467> Hi, when I try to add a printer via General Settings interface I have a blank interface and I can't add anything like I have not the permissions what can I do?
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> user258467: http://localhost:631
[09:33] <user258467> ActionParsnip, works like a charm
[09:34] <cfhowlett> fotoport-1,^^^^ see that link for your needs as well.
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> user258467: old school
 ,I do not see the link
[09:39] <cfhowlett> http://localhost:631
[09:40] <muindor> hey all
[09:41] <cfhowlett> muindor, greetings
[09:41] <fotoport-1> cfhowlett, this administration. That there?
[09:42] <cfhowlett> fotoport-1, yep.  add your printers again and test
[09:42] <firstroad> hi
[09:42] <muindor> have some kind of problem with installing ubuntu server. got an ibm hardware server here for testing. i set up the raid in bios (lsi megaraid) by setting device options from ide to raid and created a raid 1. now after doing this and trying to boot from the cd, it just kicks me right into some grub shell instead of the usual menue (install ubuntu, install in expert mode etc). im not sure how to go on from this grub shell now
[09:42] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-server|muindor,
[09:43] <firstroad> i have a netbook (toshiba nb200 13j) and its card reader is not working? any advice?
[09:44] <Dr_Willis> firstroad:  on my older netbooks - i had to pass a kernel option to get the readers working.
[09:44] <Dr_Willis> firstroad:  id check askubuntu.com for the exact make/model and se eif others have had the same issue
[09:45] <Dr_Willis> firstroad:  sadly with mine. I had to have a sd card in at boot time for it to read it. It couldent/wouldent read it if i later removed/reinserted it. (not tried that netbook lately however)
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> firstroad: reboot with an SD card out of the system, log in and let the OS settle. push in an SD card, wait 5 seconds and run:  dmesg | tail -n 10    do you see messages reflecting a reaction by the OS?
[09:51] <jeetpei> Helloo all
[09:51] <cfhowlett> jeetpei, greetings
[09:52] <zippo^> has someone expierence that firefox via www.mozilla.com install on ubuntu without ppa or software center?
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> firstroad: also, make sure the BIOS is up to date
[09:52] <cfhowlett> zippo^, NO idea what you're talking about ...
[09:52] <cfhowlett> !details|zippo^,
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> zippo^: i've installed using the downloaded file from mozilla.com etc
[09:53] <jeetpei> i want to create a script which create a number of files suppose 1.txt 2.txt and should have input such as 1.txt have One and 2.txt have Two ?
[09:53] <jeetpei> any idea ?
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[09:53] <zippo^> cfhowlett, : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion/MozillaBuilds
[09:53] <jeetpei> cfhowlett : any idea
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> jeetpei: so the file has a list of file names to create?
[09:54] <zippo^> I did firefox on /opt and /usr/bin. it works great. but must I do more setting, ActionParsnip ?
[09:54] <cfhowlett> zippo^, ah, so this is to install FIREFOX  not ubunut.
[09:54] <jeetpei> ActionParsnip: actually i need each file .. suppose 1.txt have string One and 2.txt have Two .. show on
[09:55] <zippo^> exec "\$HOME/firefox/firefox" -P mozilla-build "\$@" .. that must be /opt/firefox/firefox. Shall I type: "exec "\$opt/firefox/firefox" -P  mozilla-build "\$@", ActionParsnip ?
[09:58] <firstroad> ActionParsnip did you get my messages?
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> jeetpei: so the files have half the file name to be made?
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> firstroad: yes
[10:01] <jeetpei> ActionParsnip: i guess i am not getting you, let me explain .. i am creating some random file .. but problem is that /dev/urandom generate data which is not readable .. and i cant apply some searching and sorting function .. .. i what i am thinking is .. i create random file but each file should have readable string .. say i create 1.txt 2.txt 3.txt and each file have string One, Two, Three in it ..
[10:01] <jeetpei> is it possible
[10:03] <jeetpei> ActionParsnip: here is what i am doing right now
[10:03] <jeetpei> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6144876/
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> jeetpei: sure, you can use a simple bash loop
[10:03] <mn2010> mmhmm, and just have it output unixfortune cookie data if you want some readable data
[10:03] <jeetpei> ActionParsnip: i am not aware about this can you please give me more info ?
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> jeetpei: you'll need a variable which increases, there may be a bash command to make words of a number, you can then add that to the filename
[10:05] <jeetpei> ActionParsnip: can you please give some more info .. i am kind of confuse here !! sorry
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> jeetpei: I'd ask in #bash
[10:06] <jeetpei> ok Thanks a lot
[10:07] <niklas> I just installed Ubuntu 13.04 on my pc. In the start when I plugged my Razer Taipan into the computer it worked fine, but now it can move, but wont click. Do I need to update some drivers, or?
[10:10] <firstroad> set scollback_save_formats = ON
[10:10] <firstroad> oups
[10:10] <firstroad> sorry
[10:11] <cfhowlett> niklas, run updates and also see your "additional drivers" under system settings.  there may be a better driver for your device.
[10:11] <niklas> Thanks m8 :)
[10:11] <legend123> Hi there. I have a old pc that doesn't support USB boot and it's DVD drive is broken. So only solution for me to install ubuntu on it is to take its hard drive to my new PC and install ubuntu on it there. My question is, if i put that hard disk back to my old pc again, will it cause any conficts since the drivers related to motherboard etc. were installed related to new pc?
[10:11] <Dr_Willis> niklas:  normally you dont need any drivers.  by 'in the start' you mean it worked on the live cd. but not the installed system? or did it work on the installed system, then stopped?
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> legend123: do you have a floppy drive?
[10:12] <legend123> nope
[10:12] <Dr_Willis> legend123:  ive moved hd's befor. with vey few issues. HOWEVER. how old is that pc? does its cpu support PAE? thats needed by the newer releases of ubuntu
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> legend123: you can install in one PC then transfer the drive over, that's very doable
[10:12] <niklas> In the start i ment after I installed the live CD, it worked for like 10 hours, but the next day (yesterday) it just stopped working
[10:13] <vlt> legend123: It should work. You might have to delete the persistent-net file in udev rules because your NIC’s MAC address is different.
[10:13] <legend123> Thanks. Dr_Willis: Yes, it does.
[10:13] <niklas> I can easly move my mouse around on the screen, but it refuses to click, nethier right nor left
[10:14] <cfhowlett> niklas, right, it's not working properly.   we get that.  so ... try the suggested fixes?
[10:15] <Dr_Willis> got a razer deathadder here. ;) i did find some 'server/config' tool for it that let me tweak it a bit. turn off lights and so forth.
[10:15] <jmpiloq> hi all
[10:15] <jmpiloq> anyone got convirt working?
[10:15] <niklas> I'm on it  :)
[10:15]  * cfhowlett ... thinks "deathadder" is an ... uncomfortable name for a device that I'm expected to wrap y delicate hand around.;
[10:15] <Dr_Willis> http://bues.ch/cms/hacking/razercfg.html ;)
[10:18] <Dr_Willis> cfhowlett:  yep. but it was on sale for like $25
[10:18] <Dr_Willis> and that was like 1/3 the normal cost.
[10:18] <cfhowlett> Dr_Willis, alright then.  frag away!
[10:18] <Dr_Willis> its so senestive its over kill for my desktop.
[10:19] <Dr_Willis> 3500dpi = one inch travel - across both my monitors. ;)
[10:19] <niklas> cfhowlett, it dosen't work. But sometimes when I plug my mouse it works, but when I go to the menubar in the top it wont click again. Just tried it.. I have googled and searched for like 2 days, so I hope you can help me :=)
[10:19] <cfhowlett> niklas, DID YOU CHECK ADDITIONAL DRIVERS?
[10:19] <stlu> test123
[10:19] <Dr_Willis> niklas:  so if you unplug/plug it back in. some times it does work?
[10:19] <oaulakh> how to install notepad++ in ubuntu
[10:19] <stlu> I am unable to make a post in the forums.  I get a "VBulletin message" that is totally blank.  Arrgh, this is frustrating!
[10:19] <cfhowlett> niklas, asked with a smile :)
[10:19] <oaulakh> with apt-get
[10:19] <niklas> Yes I did, cfhowlett
[10:20] <Dr_Willis> oaulakh:  isent that a windows application?
[10:20] <niklas> And yes I have tried that several times, Dr_willis
[10:20] <Dr_Willis> niklas:  yes it does some times work? or no it never works?
[10:20] <dkeoui> how can i dd just the last GB of a drive?
[10:20] <oaulakh> yes it is, but i know it works on linux too
[10:20] <oaulakh> but dunno how to install it
[10:20] <dkeoui> the drive's size is<PHONE_NUMBER>84 bytes.
[10:20] <Dr_Willis> oaulakh:  if theres a linux Native port.. ive not seen it..  have you> or you use wine to install the iwndows version
[10:21] <oaulakh> any c/c++ ide for ubuntu from apt-get
[10:21] <niklas> Sometimes, when I rightclick first, I can left click onces
[10:21] <niklas> And other times it just dosen't work
[10:21] <Dr_Willis> oaulakh:  theres dozens of IDE's in the repos
[10:21] <Dr_Willis> !info geany
[10:21] <oaulakh> geany is an ide ,its a  text editor so please tell another
[10:22] <Dr_Willis> and i would call notepad++ a text editor also.
[10:22] <Dr_Willis> so go look for your self i guess.
[10:22] <oaulakh> hahaha dont angry
[10:22] <oaulakh> please tell if you know anything
[10:22] <stlu> hello? any idea why I'm unable to stay logged in, can't make any posts on ubuntuforums.org?
[10:23] <Dr_Willis> geany calls itself an ide.. so i wonder who knows.. the writers.. or us.
[10:23] <Dr_Willis> its about all i ever use.
[10:23] <cfhowlett> stlu, might need to re-register.  recent hack made many users reset
[10:23] <legend123> I have read that USB flash drives have  limited write/erase cycles and after that they give up. Now if i boot Ubuntu Live using a USB flash drive, would it greatly limit its life? What's your experiences?
[10:23] <oaulakh> the how to compile c program in geany
[10:23] <oaulakh> ?
[10:23] <Dr_Willis> legend123:  ive never managed to  wear out a usb yet.. and i use them a lot.
[10:24] <stlu> cfhowlett: recent hack? like a modification, or unauthorized alteration?
[10:24] <Dr_Willis> legend123:  i do full normal installs to them and have yet to ware one out..  now WASH one out.. in my pants pocket. ;) done that befor..
[10:24] <legend123> heh great
[10:24] <Dr_Willis> legend123:   I have 4gb usbs that are quite old and still working fine
[10:24] <oaulakh> Dr_Willis: how i compile c in geany?
[10:24] <Dr_Willis> legend123:  plus - really. they are getting dirt cheap.
[10:24] <stlu> cfhowlett: because I only get logged out when I click "Submit new Thread" -- and therefore lose everything I wrote!!!
[10:25] <lkeijser> hi, I'm trying to install an ubuntu 1204 server via preseed and get a dependency problem. Apparently it asks for accountsservice 0.6.15-2ubuntu9.5 but I can't find this in any mirror ...
[10:25] <Dr_Willis> oaulakh:  check its docs/help yet?  I generally only code in perl these days (rarely any more at that)
[10:25] <lkeijser> how do I find out where (on which mirror) this package is?
[10:25] <cfhowlett> stlu, forums were hacked in June or July.  Many users had to re-register.  Try it.
[10:25] <oaulakh> ok
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> lkeijser: apt-cache policy packagename