[10:45] <mdke> ryanakca: yeah, essentially because that's what the main website uses. It was discussed a bit on the mailing lists if you dig out the thread
[15:05] <Turl> hi
[15:06] <Turl> any progress on the (semi)automatic mirror selection?
[15:52] <ryanakca> mdke: *nod*, at Tuesday's meeting (Kubuntu), they unanimously decided that it should be fluid with a max-width set


[00:00] <jchevalier> (I'll let my computer on non-stop to avoid any message lost)
[00:07] <jchevalier> If anyone has more infos, I try to install cloud-init on SLES to create an cloud-init ready image on AZure
[11:19] <amitprakash> Can someone please help me make sense of why cloud-init is failing? https://gist.github.com/291e61880cfdc6c9e1bc46b243d47760 I've verified that /bin/ip exists
[11:20] <amitprakash> Modifying net/*.py with abspath to binaries allows it to find ip/resize2fs etc commands
[11:20] <amitprakash> any ideas why the path is broken for cloud-init
[14:14] <smoser> amitprakash: where is this ?
[14:16] <smoser> what environment ? cloud-init just gets the PATH that init gives it. one would think that systemd would have a sane PATH (including /bin)
[14:27] <amitprakash> smoser, custom ami for ec2
[14:27] <amitprakash> gentoo
[14:28] <amitprakash> brb
[16:28] <jchevalier> Hello everyone
[16:28] <jchevalier> I can't run a script at boot on my vm
[16:28] <jchevalier> But here what I have
[16:28] <jchevalier> test10:~ # cat /var/lib/cloud/instance/user-data.txt
[16:28] <jchevalier> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="[16:28] <jchevalier> MIME-Version: 1.0
[16:28] <jchevalier> --[16:28] <jchevalier> Content-Type: text/x-shellscript; charset="us-ascii"
[16:29] <jchevalier> MIME-Version: 1.0
[16:29] <jchevalier> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
[16:29] <jchevalier> Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="jchevalier.sh"
[16:29] <jchevalier> #!/bin/bash
[16:29] <jchevalier> touch /tmp/jchevalier
[16:29] <jchevalier> --[16:29] <jchevalier> test10:~ # cloud-init init
[16:29] <jchevalier> Cloud-init v. 0.7.8 running 'init' at Thu, 08 Feb 2018 16:22:46 +0000. Up 335.54 seconds.
[16:29] <jchevalier> ci-info: ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Net device info++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
[16:29] <jchevalier> ci-info: +--------+------+-----------------------------+---------------+-------+-------------------+
[16:29] <jchevalier> ci-info: | Device |  Up  |           Address           |      Mask     | Scope |     Hw-Address    |
[16:29] <jchevalier> ci-info: +--------+------+-----------------------------+---------------+-------+-------------------+
[16:29] <jchevalier> ci-info: |   lo   | True |          <IP_ADDRESS>          |   <IP_ADDRESS>   |   .   |         .         |
[16:29] <jchevalier> ci-info: |   lo   | True |           ::1/128           |       .       |  host |         .         |
[16:29] <jchevalier> ci-info: |  eth0  | True |           <IP_ADDRESS>          | <IP_ADDRESS> |   .   | 00:0d:3a:1a:82:f1 |
[16:29] <jchevalier> ci-info: |  eth0  | True | fe80::20d:3aff:fe1a:82f1/64 |       .       |  link | 00:0d:3a:1a:82:f1 |
[16:29] <jchevalier> ci-info: +--------+------+-----------------------------+---------------+-------+-------------------+
[16:29] <jchevalier> ci-info: ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Route IPv4 info+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
[16:29] <jchevalier> ci-info: +-------+-----------------+----------+-----------------+-----------+-------+
[16:29] <jchevalier> ci-info: | Route |   Destination   | Gateway  |     Genmask     | Interface | Flags |
[16:29] <jchevalier> ci-info: +-------+-----------------+----------+-----------------+-----------+-------+
[16:30] <jchevalier> ci-info: |   0   |     <IP_ADDRESS>     | <IP_ADDRESS> |     <IP_ADDRESS>     |    eth0   |   UG  |
[16:30] <jchevalier> ci-info: |   1   |     <IP_ADDRESS>    | <IP_ADDRESS>  |  <IP_ADDRESS>  |    eth0   |   U   |
[16:30] <jchevalier> ci-info: |   2   |  <IP_ADDRESS>  | <IP_ADDRESS> | <IP_ADDRESS> |    eth0   |  UGH  |
[16:30] <jchevalier> ci-info: |   3   | <IP_ADDRESS> | <IP_ADDRESS> | <IP_ADDRESS> |    eth0   |  UGH  |
[16:30] <jchevalier> ci-info: +-------+-----------------+----------+-----------------+-----------+-------+
[16:30] <jchevalier> test10:~ # Le script seemed to be loaded, and cloud-init does not raise an error, but the file is not created...
[16:30] <jchevalier> Any idea?
[16:42] <dpb1> jchevalier: use a pastebin next time. :)
[16:43] <jchevalier> Right my bad :)
[17:40] <smoser> jchevalier: can you post /run/cloud-init/status.json ?
[17:40] <smoser> i assume that one of the stages has not run.
[17:45] <jchevalier> https://paste.ubuntu.com/26542228/
[17:45] <jchevalier> hmm indeed
[18:16] <blackboxsw> smoser: did you already write an sru test case for one of the SRU features we are releasing? maas oauth maybe of OVF related. I thought I recalled something
[18:16] <blackboxsw> but I can't find the link
[18:20] <smoser> blackboxsw: i did the grub-legacy-ec2 one
[18:21] <smoser>  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/1581416
[18:21] <blackboxsw> ahh thank you
[18:22] <smoser> i will test that now
[18:30]  * blackboxsw will ping the authors on the SRU related bugs
[18:30] <blackboxsw> and pushing up my sru bug verification docs ubuntu-sru.
[18:31] <blackboxsw> think I'm missing a couple still
[18:31] <blackboxsw> almost there
[19:20] <jchevalier> Seems that the setup_disk module crashed the thing
[19:20] <jchevalier> but now I have to manually run cloud-init modules -m final
[19:21] <jchevalier> Otherwize the script in custom-data in not tun
[19:21] <jchevalier> run*
[19:21] <smoser> jchevalier: /var/log/cloud-init.log ?
[19:23] <jchevalier> https://paste.ubuntu.com/26542654/
[20:03] <smoser> jchevalier: what made you thnk setup_disk failed ?
[23:40] <blackboxsw> smoser: rharper found an SRU-blocker the identity doc stuff we landed  in ec2 doesn't work on upgrade path. self.identity doesn't exist on the pickled datasource


[23:53] <TheLordOfTime> IRCC: ping.
[23:54] <TheLordOfTime> any IRCC member alive/around?
[23:57] <TheLordOfTime> ehh nevermind, situation resolved


[11:38] <kwwii> does anyone here know of a colour calibration tool which works on linux?
[16:06] <Viper550> hey
[16:12] <Viper550> anyone active?


[02:58] <thrik> hey all. I'm new to Linux. I'm on Xubuntu 20.04, coming from Windows. I'm having intense system lag while mining. this did not happen on Windows, all apps worked without lag. I can't find a solution online. any advice?
[05:18] <xu-help37w> 32-bit xubuntu?
[05:19] <thrik> 64 bit xu-help37w
[18:33] <Anonamy> Hi, so I upgraded Xubuntu from 16.04 to 18.04 then to 20.04 all in the same day,
[18:34] <Anonamy> everything seems ok, except there is some Gnome stuff that seems to conflict with XFCE, such as the panel and menus, but I resolved those by uninstalling some Gnome packages
[18:34] <Anonamy> I do have a problem still however, and that is the automatic Software-updater
[18:34] <pikapika> yeah
[18:34] <pikapika> check your sources.list
[18:35] <pikapika> apt from the command line just gives you a warning and continues along if any of the sources are failing, but the software updater fails with an internet error
[18:35] <Anonamy> the problem is that it refuses to update anything because it does not have root access
[18:35] <pikapika> is it talking about some "partial upgrade"?
[18:35] <Anonamy> sources.list is fine now
[18:36] <pikapika> Anonamy, check for keyring
[18:36] <Anonamy> I have no problems anymore except for the software-updater ...   it opens and closes really quick when I hit update, then I get an error in Auth, saying that it does not have access
[18:37] <pikapika> I think the software updater uses keyring for auth
[18:37] <Anonamy> I can still update in the command line with apt-update
[18:37] <pikapika> theres an app called gnome keyring
[18:37] <Anonamy> apt-get upgrade ect all works fine, its just the gui version has no access, but it pops up automatically so I don't know where to look to give it root access
[18:37] <pikapika> it manages permissions for gui apps that require root
[18:38] <pikapika> so you don't have to type password
[18:38] <Anonamy> ok
[18:38] <pikapika> I am not saying it is the cause
[18:38] <pikapika> Just pointing it as a potential
[18:39] <Anonamy> alright I am looking into it
[18:43] <Anonamy> in the mean time I created a menu item that runs sudo /usr/bin/update-manager  and made it run in terminal
[18:45] <Anonamy> I mean  .     sudo /usr/bin/update-manager
[18:46] <Anonamy> getting this error in auth.log      polkitd(authority=local): Operator of unix-session:c6 FAILED to authenticate to gain authorization for action org.debian.apt.install-or-remove-packages for system-bus-name::1.5174 [/usr/bin/python3 /usr/bin/update-manager] (owned by unix-user:lsemple)
[18:47] <Anonamy> ^ thats the error I get if I run /usr/bin/update-manager   without sudo
[18:48] <Anonamy> and its the same error when the update-manager automatically presents itself every other day
[18:48] <Anonamy> maybe I should ask in #ubuntu ?
[18:49] <pikapika> Anonamy, why do you not use apt-get
[18:49] <pikapika> I always just use apt-get
[18:49] <pikapika> I get to see the logs of the update as its happening
[18:49] <pikapika> and the gui tools always seem to have problems with some edge cases
[18:49] <pikapika> and in 16 my software updater basically stopped working
[18:50] <pikapika> Anonamy, I have a feeling its keyring related
[18:52] <Anonamy> I do use apt-get all the time
[18:53] <Anonamy> it would just be nice if the automatic one would work
[18:55] <Anonamy> pikapika, thanks for the help.. its not the end of the world if I cannot use it,
[18:56] <pikapika> the gui updater always has problems
[18:56] <pikapika> It is my personal policy that I try to use base tools rather than wrappers as much as possible
[18:56] <Anonamy> yeah thats what I figure
[18:56] <pikapika> The external layers expecially guis over command line tools are often fickle
[18:56] <Anonamy> is there a way to disable it ?
[18:56] <pikapika> I don't know
[18:57] <Anonamy> remove the program entirely
[18:57] <pikapika> Probably not a good idea
[18:57] <pikapika> there might be important dependencies it takes along with itself
[18:57] <Anonamy> or rename it in /usr/bin
[18:57] <pikapika> maybe just chmod -x the process?
[18:57] <Anonamy> ok
[18:57] <pikapika> chmod -x is better than renaming
[18:57] <pikapika> did you look into your keyring
[18:58] <Anonamy> no
[19:00] <pikapika> Anonamy, what groups is your user in


[00:06] <UBuxuBU> even the techies who live in here get tired of trying to fix this
[00:07] <astra`> yeah
[00:07] <astra`> i posted the logs they asked me to but no one responded
[00:07] <astra`> oh well
[00:09] <UBuxuBU> same as it ever was same as it ever was same as it ever was ....
[00:10] <UBuxuBU> hate to say it but xfce is the most reliable..i luv ubuntu but...its true
[00:56] <astra`> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/sPVLUj6X/ <---no answer as to why is that happening?
[01:10] <white_magic> can someone help me figure out how to remove tearing? I'm running Ubuntu and I have compton installed. I have tried running it with various launch params, e.g. "compton --backend glx --vsync opengl-swc" but tearing persists in a firefox webpage that I'm using as a test. Please advise!
[01:10] <white_magic> I'm running Lubuntu, not ubuntu (typo), so the DE is lxqt
[02:13] <LaunchpadMcQuack> installing ubuntu and there was an option to encrypt installation i forgot to check. now its on time zone, and the back button is grayed out. why? i just want to go back and check the box i forgot.
[02:16] <compdoc> just start over
[02:16] <TimeDoctor> that's maybe the best/worst example of someone asking for help and then immediately quitting, and I rarely see the follow-up of the person offering help also immediately quitting :(
[02:27] <i4> On my system i get a advertisement at notification area! With ad of casino... How can I remove this? Where I must to check some settings or do some tweaks to remove this annoing unwanted ad... Ubuntu Budgie 18.04
[03:03] <courrier> What's the simplest action to get an autoipd address with 18.04? I thought "sudo autoipd -w myinterface" was enough, but it isn't because the network maanger shuts down Ethernet when it realizes it can't get an IP from DHCP
[03:03] <courrier> Pitty it can't see that autoipd affected an IP :(
[03:11] <cobracommand> what do you guys think of the switch to from unity to gnome 3?
[04:02] <gee111> just installed ubuntu on a USB flash drive. It takes 5 minutes to boot. But that's not the issue. It's taking 2 minutes to open any window or menu. Even clicking OK takes 1 minute to respond. Is this normal???
[04:09] <Bashing-om> gee111: USB is slow .... BUT not that slow .
[04:14] <gee111> just installed ubuntu on a USB flash drive. It takes 5 minutes to boot. But that's not the issue. It's taking 2 minutes to open any window or menu. Even clicking OK takes 1 minute to respond. Is this normal???
[04:14] <Bashing-om> 23:09 < Bashing-om> gee111: USB is slow .... BUT not that slow .
[04:15] <gee111> 32 GB USB 3.0
[04:15] <gee111> I used 31 GB ext4 and 1 GB swap
[04:16] <Bashing-om> gee111: What processor .. and how much ram ?
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> gee111: usb protocol will always be a bottleneck from an ubuntu dedicated stick
[04:20] <gee111> I accidentally installed the boot loader in the hdd
[04:20] <gee111> not in th eusb
[04:21] <gee111> 10 GB of ram
[04:25] <gee111> I can't even chat here because the window is constaly freezing
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> gee111: dedicated ubuntu usb stick can be used for testing, recovery,bugging out but not so well for daily use
[04:58] <pi0> i want to password protect my ubuntu box with a usb password disk
[05:14] <svoloc> Hi guys. How to find out when Ubuntu 18.10 will use 4.19 kernel as default? Currently it is 4.18.0-10
[05:16] <guiverc> svoloc, I personally would expect 18.10 to remain on 4.18  (19.04 uses 4.18 currently)
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> svoloc: you ask this for a reason? anything doesnt work under 4.18?
[05:25] <svoloc> Yes, I cannot connect external monitor to my laptop using usb-c connection. 4.19 has support for that, I think.
[05:25] <pi0> is there a thing as a secure boot or usb boot password protect usb disk
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> !mainline | svoloc
[05:28] <pi0> lotuspsychje: was that for me?
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> pi0: no
[05:31] <svoloc> lotuspsychje: which deb files should I download http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.19/  for amd64?
[05:32] <pi0> can you encrypt ubuntu filesystem after install?
[06:41] <james_brown> hello everybody! I just installed ubuntu 18.04 and now the file names on the desktop start a new line after 9 or 10 characters.  I couldnt find anything on google
[06:41] <james_brown> how can i fix this?
[06:50] <james_brown> anybody?
[06:56] <Rockwood> i am unable to open mozilla due to error :- Your Firefox profile cannot be loaded. It may be missing or inaccessible
[07:00] <guiverc> Rockwood, if you stat ~/.mozilla/ - do you have permission to rw? (do you own it?), does it exist? (mine is a directory), does it contain ....  ditto ~/.mozilla/firefox/  (a file profiles.ini is in here which may be what it wants)
[07:02] <Rockwood> i just apt updating command running
[07:04] <Rockwood> guiverc, and output of apt update is http://dpaste.com/2YEWM3V
[07:09] <james_brown> guiverc: I just installed ubuntu 18.04 and now the file names on the desktop start a new line after 9 or 10 characters.  I couldnt find anything on google.  How can i fix this?
[07:12] <Rockwood> guiverc, chown: cannot access '/home/nitin/.cache/mozilla': No such file or directory
[07:13] <Rockwood> chown -hR $USER:$USER ~/.cache/mozilla
[07:25]  * guiverc is away on phone call sorry Rockwood
[07:25] <Rockwood> Err:19 http://ppa.launchpad.net/gwendal-lebihan-dev/hexchat-stable/ubuntu bionic Release  404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[07:25] <Rockwood> its okay no issue
[07:25] <Rockwood> how to remove this error
[07:34] <guiverc> Rockwood, your last PPA you gave supports lucid thru xenail - not bionic - to remove error you can remove PPA (and find another that provides whatever you got from it, and supports Bionic - IF you actually need it!)
[07:35] <Rockwood> Failed to fetch http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu/dists/xenial-getdeb/InRelease  Clearsigned file isn't valid, got 'NOSPLIT' (does the network require authentication?)
[07:36] <Rockwood> new error after that
[07:38] <Rockwood> guiverc, new error i removed those error but now coming more and more
[07:45] <Rembo> hello, can someone tell me if one of the following patches require reboot https://hastebin.com/ewedagaxiz.php ?
[07:57] <Freenoodle> systemctl start dovecot fails with " dovecot.service: Failed to run 'start' task: No such file or directory" but it doesn't say what file is missing. starting dovecot -F gives no output, is there some way to make systemctl more verbose to see what file it misses?
[08:00] <Freenoodle> just with dovecot -F, the programme seems to run, so there seems to be an issue with systemd
[08:01] <spliffy> Freenoodle: did you try journalctl -x?
[08:01] <spliffy> Freenoodle: from the manpage: Augment log lines with explanation texts from the message catalog. This will add explanatory help texts to log
[08:01] <spliffy> that is the explanation for the -x switch
[08:01] <Freenoodle> spliffy, yes, didn't reveal more info
[08:02] <spliffy> Freenoodle: I would take a look at dovecot logging settings. If it doesn't already log more info which you didn't find you can increase verbosity there
[08:04] <Freenoodle> spliffy, problem is; I don't get to the point of systemd launching the dovecot process. I can start dovecot manually with dovecot -F but sytemctl seems to throw the towel even before. I don't get any logs
[08:04] <Freenoodle> therefore I wonder whether there is any way to make systemctl more verbose
[08:04] <Freenoodle> journalclt -xe only says "dovecot.service: Failed to run 'start' task: No such file or directory"
[08:05] <spliffy> Freenoodle: you didn't mess with systemctl files?
[08:06] <spliffy> Freenoodle: hah.. i guess you put the arguments in the wrong order
[08:06] <spliffy> might that be the case?
[08:11] <Freenoodle> spliffy, no, we did not touch them. Just did a fully restore frome a system backup, btw, the systemd file has no arguments
[08:18] <spliffy> Freenoodle: i thought you might have switched the arguments for the systemctl call, because it didn't recognize 'start', but it found the dovecot.service, so the theory is wrong
[08:19] <spliffy> I'd expect a line starting with ExecStart in the dovecot service file, which causes this error
[08:19] <spliffy> Freenoodle: ^
[08:22] <spliffy> but by default it is just ExecStart=/usr/sbin/dovecot -F
[08:23] <spliffy> on my ubuntu 18.04.1
[08:30] <trobjo> ping anyone. Is my irssi config working?
[08:30] <guiverc_d> pong trobjo ?
[08:31] <trobjo> Thanks!
[08:33] <elias_a> trobjo: Using Finnish software is a virtue. :)
[09:39] <vlt> Hello. My firefox redirects specific-domain.tld from the address bar to google.com/search?q=specific-domain.tld (chromium doesn't). How can I tell firefox not to do this?
[09:52] <Rockwood> hello
[10:22] <VjdfMQ> Hey all
[10:22] <VjdfMQ> Why could stat give Access: 10136-02-16 06:16:00.000000000 +0200 ?
[10:23] <TJ-> VjdfMQ: incorrectly set timestamp - looks like it was set using 'touch'
[10:26] <VjdfMQ> TJ-: Hm, this is file downloaded from Git
[10:26] <VjdfMQ> I mean, it is source file containing text
[10:27] <VjdfMQ> s/is/is a/
[10:30] <TJ-> VjdfMQ: checked out in the working directory?
[10:30] <VjdfMQ> TJ-: Sorry, what do you mean?
[10:31] <TJ-> you're 'stat'ing a file you've checked out in the working directory, or a file in the .git/ repo itself?
[10:31] <VjdfMQ> TJ-: At working directory
[10:31] <VjdfMQ> I mean, from ZIP downloaded from Github
[10:42] <Lope> How can I download ubuntu server 17.10.1? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/
[10:42] <enzotib> Lope, not supported anymore
[10:43] <Lope> enzotib, doesn't matter, i need it to test some software that only works on it.
[10:43] <enzotib> Lope, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/artful/
[10:43] <Lope> I suppose 16 might work though.
[10:43] <Lope> Is 16 more supported than 17?
[10:44] <enzotib> Lope, 16.04 is a Log Term Support releases, so yes, it is still supported
[10:46] <Lope> enzotib, is there a netinstall for ubuntu 16 server? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/16.04/release/
[10:47] <hays> anyone know why sudo is slow out of the box on 18.04
[10:47] <hays> something to do with NetworkManager?
[10:48] <Lope> enzotib, am I missing something? I don't see server amd64? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/16.04/release/
[10:48] <crawler> Hey guys, is this "normal" for ubuntu 18.10 https://imgur.com/a/iE3BeWY
[10:49] <ledeni> Lope: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/17.10/ubuntu-17.10-server-amd64.iso
[10:49] <enzotib> Lope, http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04.5/
[10:49] <crawler> laptop has been up for a day now, gnome-shell consumes ~1GB of ram
[10:57] <Cheez> that seems about right to me, the 650mb used by dropbox is the one that stands out there.
[10:59] <Lope> ledeni, enzotib thanks
[11:00] <empedokles78> Seit dem LTS Update schmiert das Programm Rhythmbox bei mir dauernd ab. Bei anderen auch?
[11:01] <gee111> I accidentally installed grub in the hdd while installing linux in the usb drive. What do I do to remove it?
[11:01] <crawler> Cheez, i was reading that some patches where pushed to 18.10 to reduce notorious gnome-shell leaks
[11:02] <enzotib> !de | empedokles78
[11:02] <crawler> and this looks like behavior i seen on 18.04 and on fedora 28 too
[11:03] <enzotib> gee111, what OS do you have on the hdd?
[11:04] <gee111> windows
[11:04] <hays> ugh the slow sudo is driving me nuts
[11:05] <TJ-> hays: delay in resolving hostname?
[11:05] <hays> TJ-: not sure!
[11:05] <TJ-> hays: we do have an alternative; try using "pkexec" instead
[11:05] <gee111> ubuntu is running ultra slow in a 32 GB usb. Taking minutes to open anything.
[11:05] <TJ-> gee111: how is it connected? USB2 or USB3?
[11:06] <gee111> usb3
[11:06] <TJ-> gee111: check the kernel log in case there are I/O errors. "dmesg | tail"
[11:06] <hays> TJ-: id rather get the very standard sudo working right
[11:07] <gee111> everything takes minutes to open, even kernel log
[11:07] <elias_a> gee111: How is the card behaving in memory test?
[11:08] <Lope> Heimdall was bumped to version 1.4.2 a year ago. Why do Ubuntu 18.04 repos still have 1.4.1?
[11:08] <Lope> 1.4.1 doesn't work properly on some devices.
[11:10] <gee111> I just bought the drive
[11:10] <empedokles78> Sorry, rhythmbox crashes frequently after my LTS 18.04 update. Anyone else experiencing this problems?
[11:10] <lotuspsychje> !latest | Lope
[11:10] <TJ-> Lope: the package is in universe and therefore community-maintained; it may have been imported from Debian at the start of the cycle
[11:11] <TJ-> gee111: does the dmesg log show any errors or warnings?
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> empedokles78: to troubleshoot, try to start rythmbox from terminal, see if you can catch errors on crash
[11:15] <empedokles78> lotuspsychje, will it list those automatically if I start it from there?
[11:38] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:41] <gpunk> hi
[11:42] <TJ-> It turns out gee111's system is booting from USB since the HHD was failing with lots of bad blocks... suggests the cause is I/O errors because something is using the HDD
[11:46] <nekowaiidesu> Anyone have actual hands on experience with radeon GPU on (x)ubuntu
[11:51] <lotuspsychje> nekowaiidesu: ask your real issue please, volunteers might be able to help you more with better details
[12:10] <nekowaiidesu> lotuspsychje, sorry got distracted mid-sentence. I have a Radeon R9 380 and I'm running Xubuntu 18.04. The default ubuntu drivers don't perform well (if at all) - I tried some thirdparty ppa for amd drivers, but didn't have much luck there either. The amdgpu-pro drivers latest rev is from 2015, so I'm weary of those too.
[12:10] <nekowaiidesu> I'm just wondering if there is any GPU diagnostic tools I can use to know if my GPU is even being used
[12:10] <nekowaiidesu> Or if I'm lucky, perhaps someone has a R9 300series and has experience getting it to run properly on Ubuntu
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> nekowaiidesu: check this: https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-the-latest-amd-radeon-drivers-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux
[12:12] <nekowaiidesu> My friend uses an *old* crappy Nvidia card and gets better framerates in games than I do.
[12:12] <ac3Takwas> A vulnerabilities assessment tool reports that I have to use certain versions of openssh and nginx.
[12:13] <ac3Takwas> However, despite running `apt upgrade && apt update`, the installed versions are not bumped up.
[12:13] <TJ-> ac3Takwas: those tools are often wrong; specific versions are not required; what are required are patches to mitigate vulnerabilities, which is what the Ubuntu security team do
[12:13] <lotuspsychje> acetakwas: on ubuntu, we reccomend to use the package versions specific for your ubuntu version
[12:13] <nekowaiidesu> lotuspsychje, thanks.. I have followed through that guide. None of these drivers seem to help/work efficiently (granted I didn't try amdgpu-pro because the release being 2015 makes me skeptical of it)
[12:14] <ac3Takwas> How do I ensure the right versions are there?
[12:14] <TJ-> ac3Takwas: Ubuntu applies patches to fix specific vulnerabilities to existing packages, we do not blindly upgrade to a new version of a package
[12:15] <ac3Takwas> TJ-: So you're saying I should ignore them?
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> nekowaiidesu: if radeon doesnt perform well, as a test try them anyway?
[12:15] <TJ-> ac3Takwas: identify which CVEs the packages are supposed to be vulnerable to, then read the Ubuntu changelog to verify a patch is applied (e.g. "less /usr/share/doc/$PACKAGE/changelog.gz" )
 nekowaiidesu: if radeon doesnt perform well, as a test try them anyway?
[12:29] <juhuu4712> since a few days, i have a problem with udev. I have lots of log-entries like "Nov  2 12:49:38 myhostname systemd-udevd[30869]: Process '/bin/chmod 0666 ' failed with exit code 1." any ideas?
[12:30] <nekowaiidesu> lotuspsychje, I will try this in the evening. Final question, is there any better way to check what driver the card is actually using? lspci just shows that I have a GPU, but doesn't say much about the driver being used.
[12:30] <nekowaiidesu> I know how to list my ppas and whatnot.. But not sure if the card is actually making use of them :S
[12:30] <lotuspsychje> nekowaiidesu: sudo lshw -C video, behind driver= at bottom
[12:31] <nekowaiidesu> <3 thanks for all the help lotuspsychje
[12:31] <lotuspsychje> np nekowaiidesu hope it helps
[12:31] <TJ-> juhuu4712: has the root file-system been mounted read-only?
[12:34] <juhuu4712> TJ, i am not sure, /etc/fstab contains /dev/sda1 / ext4 rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro 0 0
[12:36] <TJ-> juhuu4712: is there any other messages around those reports of the actual files/nodes it is trying to chmod ?
[12:39] <juhuu4712> TJ, i only found this one "Nov  1 00:07:05 myhostname systemd-udevd[3992]: message repeated 2 times: [ Process '/bin/chmod 0666 ' failed with exit code 1.]"
[12:40] <TJ-> juhuu4712: that sometimes happens if you've installed some 3rd party VPN type software that creates network interfaces
[12:42] <juhuu4712> TJ, i am using openvpn. in these days, i hab the problem, that the CRL-file was expired. but now i updated the CRL-file and openvpn is working as expected
[12:43] <juhuu4712> TJ, could be, that the udev-problem occured since the CRL-file expired
[12:43] <TJ-> juhuu4712: possibly it happens when the VPN interface is being created? can you match the message timestamp with some action you were doing, like connecting the VPN?
[12:45] <TJ-> juhuu4712: here's how to limit messages: " journalctl --since="2018-11-01 00:07:00" --until="2018-11-01 00:07:10" "
[12:45] <juhuu4712> TJ, yes, the logging occurs, when i restart openvpn
[12:45] <TJ-> juhuu4712: that'll give you 5 minutse either side of the "Nov  1 00:07:05" report
[12:46] <TJ-> juhuu4712: OK, so the VPN fails and no network device is created, or is created and removed so quickly, that when idev calls /bin/chmod the node has gone
[12:48] <juhuu4712> TJ, so how to solve this? the tap-device is created and vpn is working. so is this a real problem?
[12:49] <TJ-> juhuu4712: possibly not. it's a pain that udev doesn't report *what* it is trying to operate on
[12:50] <TJ-> juhuu4712: I wonder if udevd itself reports anything more. Try this: "journalctl --since="2018-11-01 00:07:00" -u systemd-udevd "
[12:55] <juhuu4712> TJ, https://pastebin.com/nACQ9bVR https://pastebin.com/vr9mKNqV
[12:56] <juhuu4712> TJ, the second one is still longer, but it is always the same
[13:00] <ioria> juhuu4712, have you tried to restart udev  (service udev restart) and then rerun the cmd ?
[13:03] <juhuu4712> TJ, this looks better https://pastebin.com/z67cgydJ
[13:10] <cryptodan> juhuu4712: look at the following lines of /etc/udev/rules.d/99-sbig.rules 49, 54, and 59 that maybe causing your issues
[13:12] <cryptodan> juhuu4712: can you run "cat /var/log/syslog | nc termbin.com 9999" and share link here
[13:16] <juhuu4712> TJ, ok, here you are http://termbin.com/d8gh
[13:20] <cryptodan> juhuu4712: when did the chmod errors start happening looks like its been going on for a while
[13:21] <juhuu4712> TJ, maybe one or two days
[13:21] <vlt> ?16
[13:21] <vlt> Sorry
[13:22] <cryptodan> juhuu4712: what happened 2 or 3 days ago
[13:22] <cryptodan> juhuu4712: what version of ubuntu
[13:24] <TJ-> juhuu4712: I think you've installed something, possibly 3rd party, that added a bad udev rule that is matching on everything. Can you show us "pastebinit <( ls -latr /etc/udev/rules.d/ /lib/udev/rules.d/ )"
[13:25] <juhuu4712> TJ, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2qd444Sgkh/ it is kubuntu 18.10
[13:26] <juhuu4712> TJ, maybe the problem started with the expired CRL from openvpn. But 2 or 3 days ago, there might be some upgrades
[13:28] <TJ-> juhuu4712: do you have a Santa Barbara camera attached?
[13:28] <TJ-> !info libsbigudrv2
[13:29] <juhuu4712> TJ, never heard of this. i only have an internal cam - Lenovo Integrated Webcam [R5U877]
[13:30] <TJ-> the sbig packages's 99-sbig.rules udev file is at fault, it is trying to run on all USB device ADD events
[13:30] <juhuu4712> TJ, some days ago i tinkered around with my wifi driver. but after that, everything worked fine. the bad logs came some days later
[13:32] <TJ-> juhuu4712: the package libsbigudrv2 contains the /etc/udev/rules.d/99-sbig.rules and that has bad matches for "SYSFS" which are ignored, meaning the rule matches all USB ADD events, and one thing it does then is RUN+="/bin/chmod 0666 $env{DEVNAME}"
[13:33] <TJ-> juhuu4712: so, if you do not need that package, remove it. I cannot see any reverse-depends on that package so not sure how you installed it. We could look in the apt log if you "pastebinit /var/log/apt/history.log"
[13:33] <TJ-> juhuu4712: to remove it "sudo apt remove libsbigudrv2" (if you know you don't need it)
[13:36] <ap5> so for me to install wifi drivers for my ubuntu install ... I need to download them from the Internet :D I love this.
[13:36] <juhuu4712> TJ, here is it http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/PW472KRwVD/
[13:37] <juhuu4712> TJ, the problem still exists
[13:37] <ap5> Isnt I able to default to some shitty broadcom driver so I can get this wifi of mine to work
[13:38] <TJ-> juhuu4712: I've reported Bug #1801362
[13:39] <TJ-> juhuu4712: check if that removed the config file: "ls /etc/udev/rules.d/99-sbig.rules"
[13:40] <juhuu4712> TJ, i have entered udevadm control --reload-rules && udevadm trigger and git his in syslog https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5WhctQNkTv/
[13:40] <TJ-> juhuu4712: if not we'll need to use 'purge' as in "sudo apt purge libsbigudrv2"
[13:42] <TJ-> juhuu4712: that's fine; check with "lspci -nn" but I think you'll find those devices (1c.1, 1c.2) are PCIe ports
[13:42] <juhuu4712> TJ, success, thanks so far
[13:42] <TJ-> juhuu4712: modemmanager is probing to find moden devices and reports it doesn't know how to probe those
[13:43] <juhuu4712> TJ, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VgcbY84vCK/
[13:45] <TJ-> juhuu4712: as I thought; so the problem is now fixed
[13:46] <juhuu4712> TJ, great - thank you again and have a nice day
[13:47] <jjbuggle> I tried to play a game, and the performance was horrible.  Is there a way that I can make sure my graphics are working proper?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FYq62dK2Pt/
[13:51] <adrian_1908> jjbuggle: do you have some amd control panel? I would look into that to make sure you're using the dedicated Radeon card and not Intel's onboard chip.
[13:52] <jjbuggle> adrian_1908: i would love to look into that, but I don't know where any of that would be
[13:54] <adrian_1908> jjbuggle: I don't have an AMD card, so I don't know either. Do you have the proprietary drivers installed? They might come with such a control panel (Catalyst etc.)
[13:55] <jjbuggle> adrian_1908: there are no proprietary available through the additional drivers dialog.  And searching on the net says that the proprietary ones are for professional apps, not gaming.  Whatever that means
[13:58] <adrian_1908> Hmm, maybe your card is too old then and those drivers have been removed. The proprietary drivers are definitely suited for [anything], and aside from open source purists most users just want the best performance.
[13:59] <nekowaiidesu> jjbuggle, I'm also trying to get Radeon card working properly in games on xubuntu
[13:59] <jjbuggle> nekowaiidesu: nice, let's work together
[13:59] <nekowaiidesu> someone told me to try sudo lshw -C video
[13:59] <adrian_1908> I can't really help more, as I know too little about it myself. If older drivers versions work with recent kernels, you could also try to get the linux driver directly from AMD's website.
[14:00] <nekowaiidesu> check the driver
[14:00] <jjbuggle> nekowaiidesu: thanks mate!
[14:00] <nekowaiidesu> Sadly I'm at work now, not on my gaming machine.
[14:00] <jjbuggle> adrian_1908: sorry, I meant you, thanks mate!
[14:00] <adrian_1908> np!
[14:00] <nekowaiidesu> There is a ppa for third party drivers which are supposedly updated more frequently than the default ubuntu drivers. Personally I didn't have much luck with them either.
 nekowaiidesu: check this: https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-the-latest-amd-radeon-drivers-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux
[14:01] <jjbuggle> nekowaiidesu: yeah, I think I have 2 graphics cards, integrated intel and the amd.  And it is not using the amd which is the problem
[14:01] <nekowaiidesu> ^ There is a guide to install the ppa in that link.
[14:02] <nekowaiidesu> jjbuggle, I think I have the same issue. When I run games it feels like my processor is doing all the work lol. Radeon R9 380
[14:02] <BluesKaj> jjbuggle, is the amd a PCIe gpu that you installed ?
[14:03] <nekowaiidesu> but yeah, if you install the 3rd party or AMDGPU-PRO drivers and can see that they reflect in 'lshw -C video' I'd have some hope that I can fix my issue tonight :D
[14:03] <jjbuggle> BluesKaj: that's an insertable card, right?  No, it is integrated from oem
[14:04] <jjbuggle> nekowaiidesu: ok.  I think I'm willing to experiment.  i might install and give it a try and report back
[14:05] <vlt> Hello. How can I run more than one instance of a program (in my case "entangle") on the same screen?
[14:11] <enzotib> vlt, I think it depends on the program, not all programs allow this. Simply launch a second instance and see what happens
[14:15] <vlt> enzotib: Well, I wouldn't have to ask if I wouldn't have tried it first ;-)  entangle doesn't run a second time as the same user. That's why I'm asking what extra work makes it run at least on the same screen more than once.
[14:16] <BluesKaj> jjbuggle, aka a hybrid gpu system, similar to the Optimus on some laptops that use intel and nvidia. I'm not sure what the driver setup is on linux
[14:17] <jjbuggle> BluesKaj: yes, it is a hybrid system, as far as I can tell.  (it was my Dad's work computer, so I don't know much about it)
[14:17] <peter22222> hi folks... i have a problem with my sd card reader.. could anybody help me?
[14:17] <peter22222> the sd card is working on other pcs but not on mine:
[14:18] <peter22222> i have a Dell XPS 13 9350 Ubuntu 18.04
[14:19] <peter22222> lspci -nnk : https://pastebin.com/yuSEk4xr
[14:19] <jjbuggle> rebooting...
[14:19] <peter22222> dmesg | grep mmc0     :     https://pastebin.com/GdFBkDGX
[14:20] <vlt> What do I have to do to run the program "entangle" more than once on one screen?
[14:22] <BluesKaj> jjbuggle, maybe this will help https://askubuntu.com/questions/1038271/intel-amd-hybrid-graphics-ubuntu-18-04
[14:25] <geodb27> People : hi ! I'm trying to build a centralized auth machine on  my lan. So far, I've successfully setup a ldap for this purpose, and now I'm thinking about pam_mount so as to get the home directory available at user auth.
[14:26] <karoshi> Hey - I have a few things set up on my ubuntu VPS. I could access Monit via <ip>:2812 until this morning. I just installed ZNC and I'm not able to access <ip>:6697 either - Both appear to be running and functioning as expected on the server-level...
[14:27] <geodb27> The thing I'm thinking about is that since the /etc/nsswitch.conf reads "passwd: ldap files" (This is wanted behaviour, so that auth would be done first against the ldap and then, if the ldap is not available, against the /etc/passwd file as normal, is a solution to have the homedirectory available in the later case anyway.
[14:28] <geodb27> Is that a good idea to have something like this : for a user set the home directory as /somewhere/user (nfs mounted via pam_mount) in the ldap, have the homedir set as /home/user in the local passwd file, and do a rsync upon the two folders at ldap disconnexion ?
[14:29] <geodb27> All machines that will use this central auth are laptops.
[14:40] <jjbuggle> BluesKaj: killing it, thankyou.  I can't confirm exactly that everything is working, but the game I'm trying to play is running smoothly now.  I used the xrandr commands listed in the link you gave: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1038271/intel-amd-hybrid-graphics-ubuntu-18-04   and started steam with the proper DRI... prepend.  FYI, and thankyou!
[14:40] <jjbuggle> nekowaiidesu: ^
[14:41] <BluesKaj> jjbuggle, glad to hear it :-)
[14:46] <nekowaiidesu> jjbuggle, THANKS bud! I will try this tonight too.
[14:48] <vlt> enzotib: I just found the "Windows -> New window (ctrl+N)" option in entangle.  :facepalm:
[14:56] <geodb27> Is there something special to have pam_mount installed on kubuntu18.04 ? The pam package don't seem to provide it in the first place, and apt search pam_mount returns nothing at all ?
[14:58] <tgm4883> !info libpam-mount | geodb27
[14:59] <geodb27> oh, thanks tgm4883. I searched only pam_mount... I see my mistake ! That's great, I'll have something to deal with :-)
[14:59] <tgm4883> yw
[15:28] <k_sze> erm, snap commands are just stuck after I reboot.
[15:44] <k_sze> e.g. running `sudo snap remove wekan` is just stuck.
[15:45] <k_sze> And I think snapd just crashed, wow
[15:50] <kur1j> I'm running ubuntu 16.04.5, and am running into this bug. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nfs-utils/+bug/1697339 can anyone suggest a way of getting a slightly newer version that implements this fix on 16.04.5 without botching my entire installation?
[16:09] <pi0> is it possible to encrypt the filesystem after install
[16:10] <TJ-> kur1j_: hmmm, the source package in 16.04 appears to have the correct code *but* for some reason the source package also contains binaries built in 2013 which look to pre-date the fixed source! I think someone mis-built that package. Let me try a simple no-change rebuild and see if that works. If so we can get it fixed quite easily
[16:16] <pi0> is there such a thing as password usb boot for ubuntu
[16:16] <pi0> plug in a usb and only if the usb is plugged in will the system boot
[16:20] <teward> pi0: install the /boot/ partition to the USB stick, without that you can't boot Ubuntu.  As for 'password usb boot' that sounds more like you want a system level boot password
[16:20] <teward> and encrypting the filesystem after install is nontrivla - doable but can be very painful.
[16:26] <kur1j_> TJ-: oh sweet! how would I know if what you do works? haha
[16:31] <TJ-> kur1j_: I'll let you know. I may be wrong, since the debian build system generates files in a temporary directory, so the object/exectuable files I see in the source shouldn't be there but ought not to end up in the debian package.
[16:44] <TJ-> kur1j_: unfortunately that wasn't the cause; you would need to patch the code. Are you able to build/install it locally? the patch is pretty simple
[16:45] <kur1j_> TJ-: damn okay. thanks for trying! I could, but would end up having to do it for about 10+ machines
[16:51] <TJ-> kur1j_: no; you correct the source once, build the .deb packages, and then copy/install them using dpkg -i
[16:52] <TJ-> kur1j_: it takes about 10 minutes to do
[16:52] <kur1j_> ahh okay,
[16:52] <kur1j_> and that won't destroy the installation?
[16:52] <kur1j_> with some weird dependencies with apt-get
[16:53] <TJ-> kur1j_: not at all
[16:54] <kur1j_> you have a link to instructions on building the .deb package for this?
[16:54] <TJ-> kur1j_: I can talk you through it easily
[16:54] <TheWild> hello
[16:54] <TheWild> do you know any actually *good* hex editor for Linux?
[16:55] <rpifan> hexchat lol
[16:55] <TheWild> minimum quality I need is one of HxD on Windows
[16:55] <lotuspsychje> TheWild: apt-cache search hex editor
[16:56] <kur1j_> TJ-: that would be great
[16:56] <TJ-> kur1j_: if you want to do it in a quieter channel, /join #ubuntu-discuss
[16:56] <TheWild> sure, there are a lot of them, but I thought you could recommend me the least f'd up one.
[16:56] <HipHop-openbox> Asus Rog
[16:56] <HipHop-openbox> Model GL502VT
[16:56] <HipHop-openbox> CPU I7-6700 HQ 2.6 GHz
[16:56] <HipHop-openbox> GPU 970m 3GB
[16:56] <HipHop-openbox> RAM 8gb DDR5 (EXPANDABLE)
[16:56] <HipHop-openbox> 500gb Hard Drive (EXPANDABLE)
[16:56] <kur1j_> TJ-: thanks I joined
[16:56] <HipHop-openbox> Windows 10 LEGAL
[16:56] <HipHop-openbox> MSI
[16:56] <HipHop-openbox> 1 TB SATA
[16:56] <HipHop-openbox> 1060 3GB
[16:56] <lotuspsychje> HipHop-openbox: not here please
[16:57] <HipHop-openbox> Which is the better deal from Offer up
[16:57] <HipHop-openbox> ok
[16:57] <lotuspsychje> HipHop-openbox: join ##hardware
[16:57] <HipHop-openbox> yes sit
[16:57] <HipHop-openbox> sir
[16:57] <TheWild> bless has too severely limited GUI - you can't simply change the font or it's size. Okteta? This one would be the best... except it doesn't support files larger than 2 GB. And you won't read it straight from the description.
[16:58] <lotuspsychje> TheWild: test a few from the repos, pick one for your needs
[17:01] <dorei> how do I increase the width of scrollbars @ unity ?
[17:03] <lotuspsychje> dorei: you might wanna take a look with dconf-editor perhaps
[17:04] <dorei> that smells like it's gonna take me hours :(
[17:04] <dorei> aint it something simple?
[17:05] <TheWild> Midnight Commander has hex editor but it won't let you change file size.  Is there some software that I can scan the server with that will find vulnerabilities?
[17:06] <TheWild> ok, sorry, my bad
[17:06] <TheWild> it was in the settings
[17:06] <TheWild> I was searcking under "Shortcuts" but it was somewhere else
[17:07] <lotuspsychje> dougquaid: join #ubuntu-server volunteers might have a few tips for you
[17:09] <TheWild> I'll install Bless.
[17:09] <TheWild> Maybe I change my word about it when I read the layouts specification... if it has any
[17:09] <lotuspsychje> dorei: actually dconf-editor is pretty easy
[17:11] <dorei> lotuspsychje: but u never know if something is hardcoded into ubuntu, like the winkey+t that opens the trash
[17:11] <lotuspsychje> dorei: think its related to overlay scrollbars enable/disable check that setting in dconf
[17:12] <er45f> stuck at grub> prompt, and LS only shows (memdisk) (cbfsdisk) (ahci1) (ahci1,msdos*)
[17:12] <er45f> I believe i need to insmod something, but am not sure.
[17:13] <arunpyasi> Hello everyone, can I get an ltsp support here please ? I am running 18.04 and I am trying to boot my thin client but its only giving a cross mark cursor with black+white screen..
[17:13] <arunpyasi> Doesn't gnome support thin client ?
[17:14] <arunpyasi> I am following http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Installation/Ubuntu chrootless
[17:14] <EriC^^> er45f: what does "echo $prefix" give?
[17:15] <er45f> (memdisk).  The issue is I manually edited a grub.cfg generated by grub-mkconfig when i knew better than to do so.
[17:15] <dorei> i searched with dconf-editor for "scroll" but no result was related to the width of the scrollbar :(
[17:16] <er45f> oh, and ahci is equiv of hd :/
[17:16] <er45f> silly be
[17:16] <lotuspsychje> dorei: anything in org.gnome.desktop.interface ?
[17:18] <TheWild> testing wxHexEditor right now. IIRC I've tested it in the past but I don't remember what was wrong with it.
[17:18] <TheWild> as for now, it smells good.
[17:18] <lotuspsychje> !yay | TheWild
[17:18] <giaco> hello
[17:18] <lotuspsychje> welcome giaco
[17:19] <giaco> I am installing ubuntu server on a machine that has no graphical output, but I have a serial terminal 115200n8
[17:19] <lotuspsychje> giaco: please join #ubuntu-server volunteers might have a look for you
[17:19] <dorei> are there other minimal desktop enviroments like unity?
[17:20] <TheWild> lotuspsychje: not so fast. I may find out what was wrong, but either it doesn't happen in the first place or they have fixed it. Well, it's over half year I recently checked it out.
[17:20] <giaco> lotuspsychje: thank you
[17:22] <uldics> Hi! Anyone knows something about an 18.10 problem with: Failure to download extra data files, ttf-mscorefonts-installer popup window? It comes up every time I boot. Can that installer maybe be removed? A fix coming soon?
[17:24] <lotuspsychje> uldics: do you get this when opening rythmbox?
[17:25] <aro> if i have two ethernet interfaces, eth0 and ppp, how do i specify to use ppp as the default interface
[17:25] <uldics> lotuspsychje: No, just a short while after login to my Mate desktop. Iam somewhat sure it is some postupgrade from 18.04 to 18.10 relict
[17:26] <lotuspsychje> uldics: that package is part of ubuntu-restricted-extras perhaps try to purge and reinstall again?
[17:29] <uldics> lotuspsychje: Hmm, purge did not show any dependencies ... So, I can probably live without it?
[17:29] <lotuspsychje> uldics: restricted extras install codecs to play on players etc
[17:30] <uldics> Because, I do not see any software which should have them MS fonts
[17:30] <uldics> Ohh ok, players
[17:30] <lotuspsychje> uldics: if one day you find yourself in missing codecs, reinstall ok
[17:30] <uldics> ok, will try reinstalling
[17:32] <ducasse> uldics: just do 'apt purge ttf-mscorefonts-installer', reinstall it later if you find yourself missing fonts
[17:34] <uldics> OK, looks like it is some sourceforge problem:   Redirection from https to 'http://downloads.sourceforge.net/mirrorproblem?failedmirror=kent.dl.sourceforge.net' is forbidden [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 443]
[17:34] <uldics> But I can just purge and if some player or font problem appears, know that this could be the one, then manually download from sourceforge or Debian repo for manual install. I suppose
[17:39] <ducasse> uldics: this is a common problem with that particular package, seems to crop up from time to time
[17:39] <uldics> ducasse: Thanks, will keep behind my ear ;)
[17:40] <ducasse> uldics: last time it happened to me i grabbed the latest debian package and manually installed that
[17:41] <ducasse> (iirc)
[17:41] <uldics> ducasse: Yes, seems to be the right solution. But until it affects me, can try to remove and ignore. Will see how far I get
[17:42] <TheWild> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bless/+bug/1622951 - soooo...?
[17:44] <arunpyasi> Hello everyone, can I get an ltsp support here please ? I am running 18.04 and I am trying to boot my thin client but its only giving a cross mark cursor with black+white screen..  Doesn't gnome support thin client ? I am following http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Installation/Ubuntu chrootless
[17:47] <bityard> If anyone has a moment, I have questions about the behavior of the installer of Ubuntu Server 18.04 LTS. To start with, is the algorithm for how the installer provisions disks and swap by default documented somewhere? I have spent a few hours googling and haven't found anything detailed yet
[17:51] <bityard> or, how about an easier question: why, when using LVM, does the installer only create a 3.9 GB root volume and then leave the rest of the disk unused in the volume group, no matter what size the disk is?
[17:51] <ikonia> because you can extend it to your size then
[17:51] <ikonia> it's easier to grow than it is shrink, and the risk of any shrink on a root volume is removed
[17:51] <_freenoder> how can one go about diagnozing super slow torrent download issues via vpn, i tried using a live ubuntu and temporarily installing the vpn and downloading a torrent and it was normal. ideas?
[17:52] <bityard> that itself makes sense, but 3.9 GB is super tiny
[17:52] <ikonia> no it's not
[17:52] <ikonia> it's a size that fits the install in with a reasonable headroom to allow you to grow it
[18:04] <aro> if i have two ethernet interfaces, eth0 and ppp, how do i specify to use ppp as the default interface
[18:04] <TJ-> aro: using the GUI, or from command line? either way, you specify one as the default route
[18:04] <aro> cli
[18:05] <TJ-> aro: check the current routing table with "ip route show"
[18:05] <TJ-> aro: is there more than 1 default route?
[18:05] <aro> i added it using rnet
[18:05] <aro> let me check
[18:06] <aro> two records showed up
[18:06] <aro> <IP_ADDRESS>/24 dev eth0
[18:06] <TJ-> aro: so I'm guessing 1 has a lower 'metric' value than the other?
[18:06] <aro> and <IP_ADDRESS> dev ppp0
[18:06] <aro> well top one has metric 202, the second doesnt have a metric value
[18:06] <TJ-> aro: so eth0 has metric 202 ?
[18:07] <aro> yes
[18:07] <TJ-> aro: right, so it takes precedence. I *think* ppp can be configured to use a particular metric value
[18:07] <aro> ok cool
[18:08] <aro> ip route add <IP_ADDRESS> dev ppp0 metric XX
[18:08] <TJ-> aro: you should 'change' the current route, not add another
[18:08] <ikonia> the are both on totally different networks
[18:08] <aro> how do ido that
[18:08] <ikonia> so why does the metric matter
[18:08] <ikonia> you just need one to be the default gateway ?
[18:09] <TJ-> aro: also, in your pppd config, you might want to use "replacedefaultroute"
[18:09] <aro> correct
[18:09] <aro> ah
[18:09] <TJ-> ikonia: they are both default routes <IP_ADDRESS>/0
[18:09] <aro> it has a setting called 'defaultroute'
[18:10] <TJ-> aro: yes, and "replacedefaultroute" will ensure if a default route already exists, it is replaced
[18:10] <aro> Ok. does order matter?
[18:10] <TJ-> aro: you would use both settings
[18:10] <ikonia> TJ-: where did you see that ? the output he pasted only shows routes for 10.0 and 192.0
[18:10] <ikonia> did I miss it /
[18:10] <TJ-> ikonia: that was abbreviated :)
[18:11] <TJ-> ikonia: aro  posted the bit after the "... via "
[18:12] <ikonia> are you sure ? I just scrolled up and they looked like routes for the network they are on, not default
[18:12] <TJ-> I am, yes
[18:13] <ikonia> understood
[18:13] <aro> so theres this too. the IP address for the ppp0 if is NOT 192.168.x.x
[18:13] <aro> its 25.79.xx.xx
[18:13] <TJ-> aro: what are you using to configure the network?
[18:14] <TheWild> why snap when there was apt already?
[18:14] <aro> i am using a script that came with some tools for ppp
[18:14] <TheWild> I have to learn another bunch of subcommands
[18:14] <aro> i was running sudo pon rnet
[18:14] <aro> and that connected to the tmobile APN and provided the IP
[18:16] <TJ-> aro: is this using a cellular modem? the modem is likely presenting a USB CDC ethernet interface using the subnet 192.168.x.0/24. ppp then creates a separate connection over that link and you get the public IP address on the PC
[18:16] <aro> yes
[18:17] <aro> it is a cellular modem
[18:18] <TJ-> you know you can use GUI network-manager to handle PPP connections ?
[18:18] <TJ-> aro: actually, NM uses ModemManager under the hood
[18:18] <aro> what do i do to use that
[18:18] <aro> i dont have any gui
[18:19] <aro> how do i access that ppp ip then?
[18:19] <TJ-> aro: NM does have a text user interface too. If network-manager is installed  you can run "nmtui" to manage network connections, for example
[18:20] <TJ-> aro: how do you mean "access that pp ip"?
[18:20] <aro> how do i proxy traffic to that ip over ppp i meant
[18:20] <TJ-> aro: if the PPP interface is up with an IP address and you've set the default route to use the PPP device, that's all there is
[18:20] <aro> what package does nmtui come with
[18:20] <TJ-> aro: nmtui is part of network-manager
[18:21] <TJ-> aro: and network-manager recommends the modemmanger package
[18:24] <TJ-> aro: network-manager calls PPP "DSL" or "PPoE" type
[18:29] <aro> okay
[18:30] <aro> ok installing network manager now
[18:31] <aro> should i install modem-manmager too
[18:31] <aro> or does that come automaticallu
[18:31] <aro> it looks like it created it
[18:31] <ikonia> network manager is installer by default /
[18:31] <aro> ok i am in nmtui
[18:31] <aro> the gui
[18:32] <aro> do i add a connection?
[18:32] <ikonia> is this actually ubuntu
[18:32] <aro> yes
[18:44] <TJ-> aro: if you create a new "DSL" connection thats for PPP
[19:08] <`mist> hey guys, trying to install salt-minion however it's saying it can't install some dependencies
[19:08] <`mist> and oddly enough, when i do an apt search for python-zmq there is no match, what's going on?
[19:11] <arunangshu> there is a website where one can chat its name is www.freechatnow.com   . i was thinking whether there can be a mobile application from which i can access that site without login onto the site through browser ??? please help
[19:13] <aro> Okay
[19:13] <aro> I have the connection getting an internet ip, how do i share/bridge the ppp0 connection to my eth0 device
[19:16] <arunangshu> there is a website where one can chat its name is www.freechatnow.com   . i was thinking whether there can be a mobile application from which i can access that site without login onto the site through browser ??? please help
[19:20] <solsTiCe>  hi. I wanted ti downgrade an account from admin to regular user but let it do the regular updates. Can I do that with sudo rules ? what command should I allow ?
[19:20] <arunangshu> is it possible to configure freechatnow.com on mobile application ??
[19:23] <ducasse> arunangshu: i don't see how that is an ubuntu question, try somewhere else
[19:23] <someone_> we know that any folder is a file holding addresses for other files, so how can I open this folder on a text editor I want to see its content even if it is just binary .
[19:25] <arunangshu> ducasse, : yes i know that but i have searched tons of pages without proper answer so i am here. if anyone can help i would appreciate ..
[19:28] <raidghost> How can i get the OLD good ubuntu wizard and not the Orange one without RAID option or anything usefull
[19:28] <ikonia> ubuntu wizard ?
[19:28] <ikonia> do you mean the actual installer ?
[19:28] <ikonia> or some other form of wizard
[19:29] <raidghost> ikonia: the NORMAL installer. not the ORANGE fanzy one with less options
[19:29] <ikonia> what "normal" installer ?
[19:29] <raidghost> It looks the same as debian default installer
[19:29] <ikonia> what option are you missing ?
[19:29] <ducasse> raidghost: if you mean the debian installer it is still available on releases.ubuntu.com
[19:30] <raidghost> ikonia: to setup mdraid  and stuff like that
[19:30] <ikonia> the gui installer lets you select raid meta devices
[19:30] <raidghost> ikonia: how then? it doesnt see my fakeraid raid 1
[19:31] <raidghost> it sees 2drives
[19:31] <ikonia> not seeing a fakeraid device doesn't mean it doesn't support it
[19:31] <ikonia> it means it can't detect your fake raid de ice - that could be for many reasons
[19:31] <raidghost> ikonia: The ONLY reason i want to use FAKERAID on the two SSD drives is to make it BOOTABLE on both drives
[19:32] <raidghost> so if one fail. The other one acts like nothing happend
[19:32] <ikonia> you don't need fake raid for that - you could use software raid very comfortably with that
[19:32] <kur1j_> is there an equiv "authconfig" on ubuntu
[19:32] <ikonia> but again fakeraid will be fine, if the device is suported
[19:32] <ikonia> supported
[19:32] <raidghost> ikonia: HOW TO setup mdraid in the orange ubuntu installer then?
[19:32] <raidghost> there is NO option for RAID at all.
[19:33] <ikonia> raidghost: as I said, it depends why it can't see your fakeraid device
[19:34] <teward> raidghost: 'orange ubuntu installer'?
[19:34] <ikonia> I think he means the standard desktop graphical installer
[19:34] <raidghost> ikonia: it follows on the server image too
[19:34] <teward> ikonia: i thought that the desktop installer didn't have RAID support out of the box?
[19:34] <teward> raidghost: server live installer to my knowledge isn't RAID-capable yet.
[19:34] <teward> you could try the alternate installer image?
[19:34] <ikonia> teward: it should see the metadevice if it's a supported controller though
[19:35] <raidghost> i like installer like this. https://www.percona.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Installing-MySQL-8.0-on-Ubuntu.png
[19:35] <raidghost> the old classic one
[19:35] <ikonia> raidghost: so you want the curses driven syste
[19:35] <ikonia> system
[19:37] <raidghost> ikonia: https://www.phoronix.com/image-viewer.php?id=2018&image=bionic_server_1_lrg this installer is NO MDRAID friendly at all.
[19:38] <raidghost> teward: I will need to see if i find the alternate installer image then.
[19:38] <ducasse> raidghost: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/18.04/release/ubuntu-18.04.1-server-amd64.iso
[19:39] <raidghost> thanks ducasse.
[19:42] <raidghost> ikonia: What you ment by curses driven system ?
[19:43] <ducasse> raidghost: that menu toolkit is called ncurses
[19:50] <ioria> teward, "As of 18.04.1, the Subiquity server installer now supports LVM, RAID," according to the release notes
[19:52] <teward> *shrugs*  Never got it to recognize my RAID array, even software RAID array at the firmware level was never recognized *shrugs*
[19:52] <teward> but it sounds to me like the person in question wanted the alternate installer which is curses driven anyways so
[19:54] <raidghost> teward: "installer now supports LVm raid, i wonder why ONLY LVM is in the menu then. Maybe i need new glasses. I give it one more try.
[20:00] <ben-linux23> hi guys, i STILL didn't get my audio working on my realtek ALC1220 amd board i got so frustrated last night i ended up unplugging the computer, i tried 4+ times to get a pastebin of my syslog file, it didnt let me it kept erroring, pastebinit kept failing, and the error was too big to paste in the website, idk what to do
[20:01] <kur1j_> im having a hellva time with kerberizing my NFS shares...I can do "sudo mount -o sec=krb5p nfs-server.exampe.com:/data/shared /mnt/shared" and then do "sudo ls /mnt/shared" and it works, however, if I just do "ls /mnt/shared" I get "ls: cannot open directory '/mnt/shared': Stale file handle"
[20:01] <kur1j_> I can remove the sec=krb5p from my /etc/exports and my mount command and both work
[20:04] <ikonia> look at who owns your kerberos ticket
[20:04] <kur1j_> ikonia: root owns the keytab file
[20:05] <ikonia> not the keytab - the actual ticket
[20:05] <ikonia> if you look at the auth model you're doing,
[20:05] <ikonia> (I'm making a big guess as I don't know your specific config)
[20:05] <kur1j_> ikonia: its just a FreeIPA box
[20:05] <ikonia> I mean your auth model
[20:06] <kur1j_> sorry, unfamiliar with what would be considered the "model"
[20:06] <kur1j_> I was essentially doing this
[20:06] <kur1j_> https://serverfault.com/questions/837223/unable-to-mount-kerberized-nfs
[20:06] <kur1j_> it works for root, but doesn't do it for normal users
[20:06] <ikonia> kur1j_: what I'm saying is I don't know how your box is setup to auth
[20:06] <kur1j_> so i think you are on to something with the kerberos ticket
[20:07] <ikonia> but what you're saying is mount this share and provide acces to this share based on kerbos authentication tickets
[20:07] <ikonia> (that's what you're mount command is stuggestining to me)
[20:07] <ben-linux23> *sighs*
[20:07] <ikonia> so when you do "ls" without sudo - what is the auth model of that user and how is it supposed to get a ticket
[20:07] <kur1j_> ikonia: you are correct. How do I determine who owns the kerberos ticket
[20:07] <`mist> any reason why i can't find python-zmq in apt search?
[20:07] <`mist> i can't install salt-minion and zmq is a dependency
[20:08] <kur1j_> ikonia: ahhh, I was hoping sssd(?) was handling that automatically
[20:08] <ikonia> `mist: is it in the ubuntu repos
[20:08] <ikonia> kur1j_: ok - maybe sssd will deal with that, I suspect it won't by default, you normally have to configure sssd
[20:08] <ben-linux23> guys, if i cant get sound working, my computer will be useless with it
[20:08] <`mist> ikonia: yes
[20:08] <ben-linux23> ubunt*
[20:08] <ben-linux23> ubuntu, my bd
[20:08] <ikonia> !info python-zmq
[20:09] <ikonia> `mist: do you havve the universe repo enabled ?
[20:11] <`mist> how do i check? running bionic server. i thought it was enabled by default
[20:11] <ikonia> `mist: look in the repo list
[20:12] <ben-linux23> sorry to pry guys, but i've dealt with this issue for a good bit, over a week, idk how to solve this..
[20:12] <`mist> yeah it's enabled
[20:12] <`mist> but it says xenial, if that matters
[20:13] <ikonia> !info python-zmq xenial
[20:13] <ikonia> `mist: looks good, should be visable in a search then, as you can see it's there in xenial
[20:13] <ioria> `mist, are you on xenial or bionic ?
[20:15] <ioria> `mist, on 16.04 salts wants python-zmq   on bionic it wants python3-zmq
[20:15] <ikonia> is this a repo mix....
[20:17] <ben-linux23> *shrugs* i guess its a lost effort
[20:17] <ikonia> ben-linux23: just talking into the air won't really endure to help with self pity
[20:18] <ben-linux23> ikonia, i know i just dont get why no one's helped me yet
[20:18] <ben-linux23> i described my issue, but nobody has given anything help wise
[20:18] <ikonia> probably because they either dont know the answer, or the self pity *sigh* - *I guess it's a lost cause* type stuff is quite putting off
[20:19] <ben-linux23> well i googled the answer and looked at the wiki/forum i found nothing
[20:19] <`mist> i can't even see python3-zmq ikonia
[20:19] <ben-linux23> that helped
[20:20] <ben-linux23> so my thought left was to come ask in here
[20:20] <`mist> when doing an apt search
[20:20] <ikonia> `mist: I'd be interested in your answer to ioria's question
[20:21] <ben-linux23> and im not a skilled/experienced Linux user so im tbh unsure how to solve this
[20:21] <ikonia> ben-linux23: right, you're still just talking into the air
[20:21] <ben-linux23> idk what that means ikonia
[20:22] <ikonia> ben-linux23: just ask the question clearly, with as much relevant detail as possible and if someone wants to help/can help they will
[20:22] <ikonia> be patient and wait for someone to help
[20:22] <ikonia> dont' ask then constantly just talk into the air about how bad it is
[20:22] <ben-linux23> alrighty
[20:24] <ioria> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/1764965
[20:25] <ben-linux23> my issue is, i have a gigabyte AB350 gaming 3 motherboard, ryzen 1600 cpu with NO onboard video, im using seperate video, and i cant get the onboard Realtek ALC1220 audio working. I edited the alsa-base.conf file almost 10 times trying to get it working, tried starting pulseaudio over and over, googling the issue, and i did see that bug, it didnt make sense to me
[20:25] <ben-linux23> my issue is i hear nothin out my speakers
[20:26] <`mist>  salt-minion : Depends: python-zmq (>= 14.4.0) but it is not installable
[20:26] <`mist> so it is asking for python-zmq, not python3-zmq
[20:26] <ben-linux23> i tried putting it to several output types, no fix
[20:26] <ioria> `mist, cat /etc/issue
[20:28] <UBuxuBU> ben-linux23, when you installed ubuntu , were you hard wired to the internet? and did you check off yes install the proprietary drivers?
[20:29] <ben-linux23> UBuxuBU, i was on WiFi and yes i did
[20:30] <ben-linux23> i dont have access to my router also, its in a hard to get to place in my house tbh
[20:30] <ioria> ben-linux23, not suggesting it,but maybe you need a bleeding edge kernel
[20:30] <ben-linux23> maybe i do
[20:30] <ben-linux23> i wouldnt know where to get that nor how to install it tho
[20:31] <ioria> !mainline
[20:31] <ben-linux23> ok
[20:31] <UBuxuBU> if noone helps you...and you cannot find anything that works, i reinstall while hard wired. it may also help is you spoke to the manufacturers of your hardware to find out if they make drivers for linux.
[20:36] <ben-linux23> ok
[20:37] <UBuxuBU>  i once had a computer, that while installing ubuntu, would see my wife and noone in here was able to help me, when i hard wired it and started over, somehow it did go get me the wifi drivers,
[20:38] <UBuxuBU> i meant woulod not see my wife*
[20:38] <UBuxuBU> ubuntu could not install see my wife till i did a hard wire intall is what i meant to say
[20:39] <sla3k> s/wife/wifi
[20:39] <sla3k> if I am not wrong ;)
[20:39] <UBuxuBU> haha
[20:39] <UBuxuBU> yes
[20:39] <UBuxuBU> this laptop has no backlight on keyboard
[20:40] <UBuxuBU> can a more experienced tech tell me if ubuntu is a little better at installing driver during a hard wire install?
[20:43] <`mist> Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS \n \l
[20:43] <`mist> ioria
[20:45] <aro> I have the connection getting an internet ip, how do i share/bridge the ppp0 connection to my eth0 device
[20:46] <ioria> `mist, sy, i'am leaving  paste for the channel apt-cache policy  python3-zmq  salt-minion
[20:47] <`mist> sorry guys, it seems i am a full on retard. i checked the sources.list on my salt server and not on the server
[20:47] <`mist> i added universe and now it installed... *sigh*
[21:17] <aro> is there a way to bridge a ppp conection to my eth0
[21:19] <ikonia> you can create bridges or routing
[21:19] <ikonia> what are you actually trying to achieve ?
[21:21] <aro> i would like ot be able to use the internet connection that is available on ppp
[21:22] <ikonia> why can you not ?
[21:23] <aro> i dont understand
[21:23] <ikonia> just tell the machine to have a default route of ppp's ip address
[21:23] <aro> how?
[21:23] <ikonia> you don't need to bridge to do that
[21:24] <joanj> hi all
[21:26] <aro> how do i set that interface as the default ip
[21:27] <ikonia> aro: what is the current default gateway
[21:27] <aro> well the one to my router i imagine, but I want it to be tmobiles apn
[21:27] <ikonia> dont imagine
[21:27] <ikonia> check
[21:28] <aro> default dev ppp0 scope link
[21:28] <ikonia> no, I'm asking what is the default gateway of your machine
[21:29] <aro> <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:29] <ikonia> and what interface is <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:29] <aro> eth0
[21:30] <ikonia> ok, so remove the default gateway from that interface and change it to be the ppp interface
[21:30] <aro> actually when i do route -n, it says my gateways are all <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:30] <ikonia> no, the gateways are not <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:30] <ikonia> please pastebin the output of netstat -rn
[21:31] <aro> https://pastebin.com/UT8r2mrZ
[21:32] <ikonia> so you're routing looks pretty screwed up
[21:32] <aro> yeah
[21:32] <ikonia> are you accessing anything on the 10.0 network ?
[21:32] <aro> no
[21:32] <ikonia> then just disble that interface and use the ppp one
[21:32] <ikonia> why make it hard
[21:32] <aro> thats just was used for inet access before i had this set up
[21:32] <aro> thats my LAN port
[21:33] <ikonia> ok, disable the network on it then
[21:33] <ikonia> if you don't need it
[21:33] <ikonia> reboot and the routing will sort itself out for the ppp interface
[21:33] <aro> how do i disable an interface?
[21:33] <ikonia> keep it simple
[21:33] <ikonia> disable it using network manager
[21:33] <aro> nmtui?
[21:33] <aro> ok
[21:33] <ikonia> what version of ubuntu is this
[21:33] <ikonia> you concerned my earlier that you appeared to be missing key packages
[21:34] <aro> ok well i assumed it work
[21:34] <aro> its kicked me out of ssh
[21:34] <aro> let me check
[21:34] <aro> it was a very thin install
[21:34] <ikonia> if you're using that interface and you disable the interface it will kick you out
[21:35] <ikonia> thin install ???
[21:35] <aro> yeah just not very much in it
[21:35] <ikonia> no ubuntu installer will not have network manager installed
[21:35] <aro> so i could just install what i needed
[21:35] <Bluecoat> anyone know why I get "operation not permitted" trying to access /sys/kernel/debug/usb/devices in 18.10?
[21:35] <ikonia> what exact version is this
[21:35] <aro> it did have it, i just couldnt find it
[21:35] <ikonia> Bluecoat: how are you trying to access it
[21:36] <Bluecoat> ikonia: 'cat' as root.
[21:36] <joanj> Here's what happened (18.04 if I remember correctly): 1. I used Time Shift to create a "restoration point" and soon I had 0kb left on the HDD. 2. I removed some files and soon there were like 5GB free space (I think now it's even 7GB). 3. I wanted to apt-get update and upgrade but the termional returned that I don't have enough space in var/cache/apt/archives. 4. I ran everything I found on the internet like clean, autoclean, autoremove and in
[21:36] <joanj> return there was a message that there 0 new 0 removed (something like that). 5. Unfortuanatelly I had to reboot the laptop and I got another error: started gnome display manager dispatcher service and it stacks there. 6. I started recovery console and I found this on the web: apt-get remove --reinstall gnome-shell (if I remmeber correctly and... I got the message about the you don't have enough space in /var/cache/apt/archives message again....
[21:36] <joanj> The du -h to /var/cache/apt/archives says that altogether it's only like 40kb.
[21:36] <joanj> Any ideas?
[21:36] <aro> i am logged in to the device thru console, and its having a tough time
[21:36] <Bluecoat> ikonia: although there's a nasty legacy piece of in-house whargarbl that does something with it becuase the goddamn hell could the author be arsed to use libusb.
[21:37] <aro> i rebooted after removing the if, and its back
[21:37] <ikonia> Bluecoat: Bluecoat if he's not exposed an interface that could be why sys can't "cat" it, but that top level should be fine
[21:38] <ikonia> aro: how did you disable it
[21:38] <aro> NM
[21:38] <ikonia> did you actually disable it ?
[21:38] <ikonia> it just shut it down
[21:38] <Bluecoat> ikonia: yeah, I'm not sure if it's a new security feature or what.  lsusb works fine.
[21:38] <aro> i edited the connection in nm and just set it to not be used by anyoine
[21:38] <ikonia> Bluecoat: I can cat it jt just fine
[21:39] <Bluecoat> ikonia: 18.10 with kernel 4.18?
[21:39] <ozbrk> hi people I installed 18.10 After a troublesome installation of Nvidia drivers (GTX950M) and tweaking the screen tearing with nomodeset configuration I have a FPS drop. Like ceartin one the menus are not smooth
[21:39] <ikonia> Bluecoat: standard 18.10 install
[21:39] <Bluecoat> ikonia: hm.  Are you using an EFI boot?
[21:39] <ikonia> I don't think so on that machine
[21:40]  * Bluecoat pokes at the selinux / apparmor settings.
[21:40] <aro> i tried going to activate connection and disabled both ethernet connections
[21:40] <aro> rebooted and they were back
[21:40] <ikonia> selinux isn't in ubuntu
[21:41] <ikonia> aro: how did you configure the eth0 interface in the first place
[21:41] <Bluecoat> ikonia: that's what i thought, although i see a mention of it in dmesg.
[21:41] <aro> it was auto configured
[21:41] <ikonia> aro: by what
[21:42] <guideX> what does it mean when you try to login over ssh and it says "bad password
[21:42] <aro> i really have no clue
[21:42] <guideX> but when I login normally it's fine
[21:42] <ikonia> guideX: is ssh set to use password authentication
[21:42] <ikonia> aro: ok - what version of ubuntu is this please
[21:43] <guideX> hmm I'm not sure, i"ll research that and change it if need be
[21:44] <aro> 16.04
[21:44] <ikonia> desktop install ?
[21:44] <aro> it doesnt have any xwindow system
[21:45] <aro> but yeah
[21:45] <ikonia> well "no" then
[21:45] <ikonia> what installer did you use
[21:45] <ikonia> to build this system
[21:45] <aro> usb
[21:45] <ikonia> as you've said it's a desktop install, but said it's a thin install
[21:45] <ikonia> no - what install media
[21:46] <aro> oh
[21:46] <aro> lubuntu
[21:46] <ikonia> how did you do a desktop install with no desktop
[21:47] <aro> i am just relaying your questions to the unix guys who did this for me
[21:47] <aro> i didnt install the OS, they did it on here for me
[21:47] <aro> this is my first experience with ubuntu too
[21:48] <aro> i am trying to create a prototype for something we are doing at work for a new car we are releasing
[21:48] <guideX> I'm honestly not sure how to check
[21:48] <ikonia> aro: just ask the unix guy to fix the routing for you then
[21:48] <aro> and there is a ton of beaurocracy i have to go through in order to fart
[21:48] <aro> he wont!
[21:48] <ikonia> if you're just acting as a proxy for them
[21:48] <moss> hi
[21:48] <moss> im running 18.04 LONG TERM SUPPORT release
[21:48] <aro> ive tried that, i tried that first - like 5 times
[21:48] <moss> and my LOCK IS FAILING TO LOCK
[21:48] <guideX> another thing that's weird, it worked for a short time, then I changed the port number, and it is doing the "bad password" thing
[21:48] <ikonia> moss: don't need caps lock
[21:48] <ikonia> and your lock is failing ??
[21:49] <moss> super key + L doesnt work
[21:49] <moss> i go to the menu
[21:49] <moss> lock screen
[21:49] <moss> doesnt work
[21:49] <moss> how2debug?
[21:49] <ikonia> guideX: app armour process blocking you ?
[21:50] <joanj> anyone any idea about my issue?
[21:50] <moss> joanj: what was your issue
[21:50] <moss> is your lock screen working?
[21:51] <moss> Super+L they said
[21:51] <moss> BREAKS EVERY DAY
[21:51] <ikonia> moss: stop using caps please
[21:51] <moss> ikonia: stop shipping broken shit code
[21:51] <moss> if you could stop shipping broken shit code
[21:51] <moss> i would stop typing in all caps
[21:51] <guideX> hmm I'm not sure what app armour is, I don't think I have it
[21:51] <ikonia> moss: tone don the language please
[21:51] <moss> oh sorry
[21:51] <ikonia> moss: ask for help without the language and attitude
[21:51] <moss> horribly horrific garbage code
[21:52] <moss> all i want to do is lock my screen and i cant
[21:52] <aro> ikona: i can see its trying to send a ping to google, and i see that there were TX packets sent, but no rx
[21:52] <moss> its been like this since ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[21:52] <aro> moss get a club
[21:52] <ikonia> aro: pastebin netstatn -rn again please now after your reboot, lets have a look at the default routing setup after reboor
[21:53] <ikonia> reboot even
[21:53] <moss> aro: like an after work club, that can help me decipher what moron strung this code together that constantly breaks screenlock?
[21:53] <ikonia> moss: final time I'll ask you - drop the attitude now
[21:53] <ikonia> ask for help clearly and politely, or be quiet/leave the channel
[21:53] <OerHeks> please moss, keep this channel family friendly thanks
[21:53] <moss> i was raised in a broken home.
[21:54] <aro> https://bit.ly/2yPQNm4
[21:54] <aro> something like that
[21:54] <moss> aro: ah. i just put that over my monitor?
[21:54] <aro> yeah
[21:54] <ikonia> aro: you're not helping
[21:54] <aro> im sorry
[21:54] <ikonia> please don't be silly - focus on your problem
[21:54] <aro> just trying to lighten the mood
[21:54] <moss> can we get mark shuttleworth in here
[21:54] <aro> ok so it seems that it is able to send traffic out on that interface now
[21:55] <ikonia> moss: drop it now
[21:55] <aro> but its got 100% packet loss
[21:55] <ikonia> aro: I've asked you for the output of netstat -rn in a pastebin please now that you've rebooted
[21:55] <moss> ikonia: in all seriousness, screenlock randomly breaks and there are no error logs even alluding to why.
[21:55] <moss> i cant leave my computer because i cant lock it
[21:55] <Bluecoat> ikonia: I can't see anything that gives a hint about /sys/kernel/debug/usb/devices being locked down (either in the log or via google).  Machine is clearly haunted.
[21:55] <moss> its company policy
[21:55] <ikonia> moss: I get that, you've said it 10+ times while you've been here
[21:56] <moss> that's it
[21:56] <aro> sorry didnt see that
[21:56] <aro> doing it now
[21:56] <moss> im calling richard stallman
[21:57] <aro> ikonia: it says the same thing, except the eth0 interface is gone
[21:57] <ikonia> aro: please show me
[21:58] <aro> i will have to type it out character by character
[21:58] <aro> it will take a bit
[21:59] <aro> https://pastebin.com/mmeikExh
[21:59] <ikonia> there is no way you typed that out that quickly and that well formatted
[21:59] <ikonia> and that is showing you have no default gateway
[22:00] <aro> Correct i modified the previous post
[22:00] <ikonia> so you need to add a default gateway <IP_ADDRESS> -> your ppp0 ip+device
[22:00] <aro> since it was pretty similar
[22:00] <aro> it would be pretty impressive if i had typed it out though huh
[22:00] <aro> Where do I add that default gateway line
[22:01] <ikonia> just do a route add
[22:01] <ikonia> if it works you can make it persistant later
[22:01] <aro> does it matter that the IP is dynamic?
[22:01] <ikonia> you'll find the IP for your interface ppp will be static
[22:02] <ikonia> as it's a private IP that is natt'd
[22:02] <aro> ok
[22:02] <aro> let me see if i can figure this out
[22:03] <aro> route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:03] <aro> like that?
[22:03] <ikonia> I suspect your IP is not actually .254
[22:03] <ikonia> is it ?
[22:03] <ikonia> and that looks good syntax
[22:03] <aro> for which interface?
[22:03] <aro> i have an ip that is dynamic
[22:03] <aro> but thats the external ip
[22:04] <aro> for the cellular device
[22:04] <ikonia> for ppp
[22:04] <ikonia> is your private ip actually .254 ?
[22:04] <aro> the destination ip says 254.254
[22:04] <ikonia> no
[22:04] <ikonia> I'm talking about the actual IP on the ppp device
[22:04] <aro> you have the patience of a saint, I am telling you
[22:05] <aro> how do i find that IP? is that the inet one
[22:05] <ikonia> ip addr
[22:06] <aro> ok for ppp0: <POINTTOPOINT,MULTICAST,NOARP,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UNKNOWN group default qlen 3
[22:06] <aro> link/ppp
[22:06] <aro> inet <IP_ADDRESS> peer <IP_ADDRESS>/32 scope global ppp0
[22:06] <aro> valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
[22:07] <ikonia> so your ip is .254
[22:07] <ikonia> cool
[22:07] <aro> ok
[22:07] <aro> so use the route add i put earlier
[22:08] <aro> ok added
[22:09] <aro> https://pastebin.com/0RwYWrCs
[22:09] <aro> thats the new output of netstat -rn
[22:09] <ikonia> looks good
[22:09] <ikonia> so you're seeing there <IP_ADDRESS> (anything) go via <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:10] <ikonia> which is your ppp device
[22:10] <aro> yes
[22:10] <aro> ok
[22:10] <aro> so it appears to be able to resolve names
[22:11] <aro> but i still lose packets
[22:11] <ikonia> "loses packets"
[22:11] <ikonia> ?
[22:11] <ikonia> does it work can you access the internet
[22:11] <aro> PING yahoo.com (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data.
[22:11] <joanj> aro are you puttin some sort of a proxy server together?
[22:11] <aro> joanj: its a device that will sit inside a future carline and report various pieces of information
[22:12] <joanj> aro and send it via internet?
[22:12] <aro> yes
[22:12] <joanj> ok
[22:12] <aro> i cannot access the internet though. I can resolve the ips for hostnames
[22:12] <aro> but thats it
[22:12] <ikonia> how are you testing internet access
[22:13] <aro> I am just pinging google right now
[22:13] <ikonia> so ping is not a defacto test
[22:13] <aro> and i also have a php file on my own personal host that I was doing a curl to
[22:13] <guideX> there's no user guideX, but there is a guidex, that's why I couldn't login, lol
[22:13] <ikonia> aro: is there any firewall running on either the host or the network
[22:14] <aro> oh oh
[22:14] <aro> new message!
[22:14] <aro> GnuTLS: Error in the pull function
[22:14] <aro> Unable to establish SSL connection.
[22:14] <aro> thats a step in the right direction
[22:14] <aro> is that an openssl issue or something else
[22:14] <ikonia> that is a certificate handshake failing yes
[22:15] <joanj> aro when you ssh to it (sorry I wasn't from the begininng) can you ssh -vv to it for more information?>
[22:15] <joanj> yeah, I was about to say :)
[22:15] <aro> ssh cannot happen anymore since ive disabled the eth0
[22:16] <aro> only point of access is the cellular connection
[22:17] <aro> openssl can connect to it
[22:17] <aro> i guess i can use -no-check-cert
[22:18] <joanj> Is that helpful?
[22:18] <joanj> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/16057/use-ssh-with-a-specific-network-interface
[22:18] <ikonia> it sounds like your problem is solved
[22:18] <ikonia> you're on the internet as requested
[22:19] <aro> however its not showing in my logs on my server
[22:19] <joanj> aro just don't let your car being hacked :)
[22:20] <joanj> *get
[22:21] <joanj> Here's what happened (18.04 if I remember correctly): 1. I used Time Shift to create a "restoration point" and soon I had 0kb left on the HDD. 2. I removed some files and soon there were like 5GB free space (I think now it's even 7GB). 3. I wanted to apt-get update and upgrade but the termional returned that I don't have enough space in var/cache/apt/archives. 4. I ran everything I found on the internet like clean, autoclean, autoremove and in
[22:21] <joanj> return there was a message that there 0 new 0 removed (something like that). 5. Unfortuanatelly I had to reboot the laptop and I got another error: started gnome display manager dispatcher service and it stacks there. 6. I started recovery console and I found this on the web: apt-get remove --reinstall gnome-shell (if I remmeber correctly and... I got the message about the you don't have enough space in /var/cache/apt/archives message again....
[22:21] <joanj> The du -h to /var/cache/apt/archives says that altogether it's only like 40kb.
[22:21] <ikonia> joanj: that spam isn't really going to help
[22:21] <ikonia> it's too much and just scrolls off screen
[22:22] <joanj> ikonia, well, it's been a while...
[22:22] <ikonia> ?
[22:22] <joanj> scrolls off, really?
[22:22] <ikonia> yes
[22:23] <joanj> alright
[22:23] <aro> well. wow an damn
[22:23] <aro> i finally got a response back
[22:23] <aro> and looking at the saved html, it says - Your data plan does not work on this device
[22:23] <aro> nice
[22:24] <aro> thanks mobility department
[22:24] <aro> wasted my time once again
[22:24] <joanj> aro, oh...
[22:37] <mobile_c> how do i install wine
[22:39] <sfdebug> i'm trying to run nethogs but i get this error: lucas@lucas-desktop:~$ sudo nethogs eth0
[22:39] <sfdebug> creating socket failed while establishing local IP - are you root?
[22:39] <sfdebug> lucas@lucas-desktop:~$
[22:39] <sfdebug> any idea?
[22:39] <giaco> hello
[22:39] <mobile_c> mobile_c@Mobile-C:~/git$ wine
[22:39] <mobile_c> ERROR: ld.so: object 'libgtk3-nocsd.so.0' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (cannot open shared object file): ignored.
[22:39] <jeremy31> mobile_c in terminal> sudo apt install wine
[22:39] <mobile_c> gtk3-nocsd is already the newest version (3-1ubuntu1).
[22:39] <mobile_c> i did
[22:39] <giaco> I need help setting up my first bridge with netplan
[22:41] <sfdebug> i think i've installed an old version..
[22:41] <mobile_c> https://paste.pound-python.org/show/Nc2Ka0CRzipuygxGftXC/
[22:42] <jeremy31> sfdebug Are you sure your ethernet interface is eth0?
[22:44] <sfdebug> jeremy31, yes, but, some ppl say the 0.8.0 version (that is the one i'm using have this error, i got it from apt repository... i think i'll need to compile the 0.8.1 version).
[22:45] <jeremy31> sfdebug I would check out bug reports on nethogs and see if anything is relevant
[22:47] <sfdebug> jeremy31, the ppl say that the 0.8.0 version (that is the one that i got from apt-get install) has this problem..
[22:49] <sfdebug> i got it
[22:49] <sfdebug> tnks
[22:51] <mobile_c> https://bpaste.net/raw/3b8e444cfd64
[22:51] <mobile_c> ._.
[22:52] <mobile_c> how tf do i install wine
[22:54] <hggdh> mobile_c: please mind your language
[22:55] <mobile_c> wine isnt anywhere in Discover either
[22:55] <mobile_c> just WIneticks
[22:56] <cryptodan_mobile> mobile_c: "apt-cache search libgtk3-nocsd*"
[22:56] <UBUxUBU> just inserted a good flash drive and ubuntu could not format it the options were all grayedout?
[22:57] <UBUxUBU> had to put in my windows machine to format it
[22:58] <mobile_c> mobile_c@Mobile-C:~/git$ apt-cache search libgtk3-nocsd*
[22:58] <mobile_c> libgtk3-nocsd0 - Library to disable Gtk+ 3 client side decorations (CSD)
[22:59] <cryptodan_mobile> Install that mobile_c
[22:59] <mobile_c> i did
[23:00] <cryptodan_mobile> mobile_c: "sudo updatdb" then "locate libgtk3-nocsd"
[23:00] <mobile_c> libgtk3-nocsd0 is already the newest version (3-1ubuntu1).
[23:02] <OerHeks> so you have wine, and the nocsd tool ..
[23:03] <UBUxUBU> i invented a new drink
[23:03] <UBUxUBU> i call it the hot apple
[23:04] <jeremy31> UBUxUBU try #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:04] <mobile_c> https://paste.pound-python.org/show/58CksxAKvMWO3LmMpkCx/
[23:04] <mobile_c> ERROR: ld.so: object 'libgtk3-nocsd.so.0' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (cannot open shared object file): ignored.
[23:04] <UBUxUBU> oh wait thought i was ni another channel
[23:09] <mobile_c> mobile_c@Mobile-C:~/git/lemonlex$ ldconfig -p | grep libgtk3-nocsd.so.0
[23:09] <mobile_c>         libgtk3-nocsd.so.0 (libc6,x86-64) => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk3-nocsd.so.0
[23:13] <mobile_c> oh well, at least i can execute it by the terminal
[23:18] <qwebirc45255> Hello
[23:19] <jeremy31> qwebirc45255 Just ask the question
[23:22] <qwebirc45255> I would love if anyone could help me with a pesky Canon multifunction printer which does not scan. I can give more info (sorry, desktop froze).
[23:23] <qwebirc45255> I connect via USB and installed SANE. No printers recognized, although it does print from USB.
[23:26] <OerHeks> qwebirc45255, check if your model is supported at all, http://www.sane-project.org/sane-supported-devices.html
[23:27] <qwebirc45255> It did say supported, but I will check again, just for grins.
[23:30] <qwebirc45255> Status: Completely, and Manpage: sane-pixma
[23:31] <joanj> hello
[23:31] <joanj> Here's what happened (18.04 if I remember correctly): 1. I used Time Shift to create a "restoration point" and soon I had 0kb left on the HDD. 2. I removed some files and soon there were like 5GB free space (I think now it's even 7GB). 3. I wanted to apt-get update and upgrade but the termional returned that I don't have enough space in var/cache/apt/archives. 4. I ran everything I found on the internet like clean, autoclean, autoremove and in
[23:32] <joanj> return there was a message that there 0 new 0 removed (something like that). 5. Unfortuanatelly I had to reboot the laptop and I got another error: started gnome display manager dispatcher service and it stacks there. 6. I started recovery console and I found this on the web: apt-get remove --reinstall gnome-shell (if I remmeber correctly and... I got the message about the you don't have enough space in /var/cache/apt/archives message again....
[23:32] <qwebirc45255> Listed as working with the sane-pixma backend (not sure what that means).
[23:32] <joanj> The du -h to /var/cache/apt/archives says that altogether it's only like 40kb.
[23:32] <joanj> Anyone?
[23:33] <guiverc> joanj, 'stacked there?' - did it get stuck there (ie. you login at greeter, it churns a bit and returns to login screen? - ie. login loop, if you have no space in $HOME this happens, but you can still login via terminal (if you know how)
[23:34] <guiverc> ps: $HOME means /home/user/  (or whatever your username is)
[23:36] <joanj> guiverc, I mean it doesn't go any further it just stops. It's something that didn't happen only to me. It never goes beyond that point and it's before the login screen.
[23:36] <joanj> Stuck, yes, typo.
[23:37] <guiverc> joanj, if you hit ctrl+alt+f4 do you get a terminal login prompt?
[23:37] <kantlivelong> anyone here use krb5+nfs?
[23:37] <kantlivelong> cant figure out why i cant mount from ubuntu to centos
[23:37] <kantlivelong> fedora to centos is fine
[23:40] <joanj> guiverc, it's not the point. It stops going, so it never gets to that screen.
[23:42] <spokosjr> hello
[23:44] <guiverc> joanj, do you mean you're not even seeing plymouth of boot messages, ie. it's stuck early in the boot process? ctrl+alt+f4 I'd expect to work even if gdm has issues...  (the keys aren't related to gui)
[23:46] <joanj> guiverc, like this https://i.stack.imgur.com/K2GlD.jpg
[23:47] <guiverc> okay - still at kernel booting steps. (before Welcome to ..)  I would reboot, at grub hit <E> (edit) and remove any 'quiet splash' and add a 1 on the 'linux' (kernel line) so it boots to runlevel 1 ; check you have space there, start looking thru logs for clues etc
[23:49] <guiverc> check you have space - meaning `df` (you highlighted space,backups in your original post).
[23:50] <joanj> yeah I did that, apart from runlevel 1 :) Thanks
[23:52] <joanj> Offtopic: can you save (export) bookmarks from firefox and opera using only terminal? Copying entire profile would work?
[23:54] <guiverc> joanj, re: firefox, I've done it in the past but have couldn't tell you how (I grep'd looking for url's to find file, then just scp'd it to where I wanted)
[23:58] <joanj> guiverc, thanks!
[23:58] <oobuntoo> for snapd how do I access say photos located on my drive?