 I didn't know! I thought that command only listed the ops, not called them!
[12:36] <nzk> No I didnt :(
[12:36] <DBO> listing = calling
[12:36] <nzk> Please, can you unban me?  Its not that big of a deal.
[12:37] <Seveas> it is if the list of bans you already earned is a page long on the bantracker
[12:37] <Seveas> goodbye
[12:37] <Seveas> btw:
[12:37] <Seveas> -ChanServ- [nzk*!*@*]  has been added to the autoremove list for #ubuntu-offtopic with reason []
[12:38] <Seveas> he already has ab autorem entry in #ubuntu
[12:38] <Hawkwind> Wow, so he's got a bit of a track record it seems
[12:38] <tonyyarusso> What's the advantage of autorem over a usual ban?
[12:39] <Seveas> autorems can only be removed by me ;)
[12:39] <tonyyarusso> Aaah
[12:39] <Seveas> and if you remove the ban, the autorem reinstates it when he joins
[12:39] <tonyyarusso> handy
[02:35] <tonyyarusso> why?
[02:35] <Hobbsee> a guy querying me, wanting to know if i'm female, etc
[02:36] <tonyyarusso> aaaah
[02:36] <Hobbsee> [12:28]  <Berke^> hi
[02:36] <Hobbsee> [12:28]  <Hobbsee> hi
[02:36] <Hobbsee> [12:28]  <Berke^> what is your name?
[02:36] <Hobbsee> [12:29]  <Berke^> what is your name?
[02:36] <Hobbsee> [12:29]  <Hobbsee> why do you wish to know?
[02:36] <Hobbsee> [12:29]  <Berke^> ok
[02:36] <Hobbsee> [12:29]  <Berke^> dont say that
[02:36] <Hobbsee> [12:29]  <Berke^> say that plz
[02:36] <Hobbsee> [12:29]  <Berke^> ar u a girl or a guy
[02:36] <Hobbsee> [12:30]  <Hobbsee> why do you wish to know?
[02:36] <Hobbsee> [12:30]  <Berke^> because
[02:36] <Hobbsee> [12:31]  <Berke^> if u a girl I will try to speak wth u
[02:37] <Hobbsee> [12:31]  <Hobbsee> why?
[02:37] <PriceChild> what a line!
[02:37] <Hobbsee> [12:32]  <Berke^> I want to meet a girl
[02:37] <Hobbsee> [12:32]  <Berke^> ok?
[02:37] <tonyyarusso> wow
[02:37] <Hobbsee> [12:32]  <Berke^> did u understand
[02:37] <Hobbsee> [12:32]  <Hobbsee> http://www.escapistmagazine.com/print/17/27
[02:37] <PriceChild> I didn't think he could top that but he did!
[02:37] <tonyyarusso> Some are more pathetic than previously thought possible.
[02:37] <Hobbsee> [12:34]  <Berke^> so
[02:37] <Hobbsee> [12:34]  <Berke^> u wont speak with me?
[02:37] <Hobbsee> [12:34]  <Hobbsee> clearly you know i'm a girl, else you wouldnt have queried me.
[02:37] <Hobbsee> [12:34]  <Hobbsee> otu of all the people in #ubuntu
[02:37] <Hobbsee> [12:35]  <Berke^> yeah
[02:37] <Hobbsee> [12:35]  <Berke^> but
[02:37] <Hobbsee> [12:35]  <Berke^> I dont know your name
[02:37] <Hobbsee> [12:35]  <Berke^> would u say plz
[02:38] <Hobbsee> [12:35]  <Berke^> ?
[02:38] <Hobbsee> annoying.
[02:38] <tonyyarusso> Has he never met /whois?
[02:38] <Hobbsee> hehe
[02:38] <maxamillion> Hobbsee: you're female?
[02:38] <LjL> (whoops!)
[02:39] <Hobbsee> [12:36]  <Berke^> r u ther
[02:39] <Hobbsee> [12:36]  <Berke^> e
[02:39] <Hobbsee> [12:36]  <Hobbsee> no
[02:39] <Hobbsee> he clearly has - he's found me from #ubuntu
[02:39] <Hobbsee> maxamillion: *glare*
[02:39] <Hobbsee> duh
[02:39] <maxamillion> Hobbsee: whoa ... sorry, didn't know
[02:40] <maxamillion> no need for "duh"s or glaring, it was a legit question ... not like i walked up to you in the grocery store and wasn't able to tell
[02:41] <tonyyarusso> maxamillion: True enough - but she's in a glare-y mood for obvious reasons (this happens way too often)
[02:41] <maxamillion> tonyyarusso: fair enough, i could understand the frustrations ...
[02:41] <LjL> Hobbsee: he found you from #ubuntu, still he joined it just less than 2 minutes before querying you
[02:42] <maxamillion> tonyyarusso: i legitimately didn't know, i think its great that there is a female devel ... there are far too few in the open source world or even the software development world in general
[02:43] <LjL> how's it that hobbsee's away and Hobbsee|NotHere is not anyway? :P
[02:43] <tonyyarusso> maxamillion: Most likely b/c of the sort of treatment pasted :(
[02:43] <tonyyarusso> LjL: lol
[02:43] <tonyyarusso> Hobbsee: Great link btw
[02:44] <PriceChild> LjL, some things we'll just never know :)
[02:44] <maxamillion> tonyyarusso: yeah, i don't doubt it .... sad as it is
[02:44] <tonyyarusso> maxamillion: There's another awesome article about...
[02:44] <tonyyarusso> !women
[02:44] <ubotu> The women and men of the Ubuntu women project hang out in #ubuntu-women. Encouraging women to use linux? Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ for some suggestions compiled by women who use Linux on how to do so effectively.
[02:44] <tonyyarusso> That one
[02:44] <maxamillion> oh cool
[02:45] <maxamillion> yeah, i have actually met one hard core debian supporting female who was an awesome perl hacker, i was excited ... so we chatted linux for a couple hours :P
[02:48] <somerville32> ...
[02:49] <tonyyarusso> This link confuses me a little bit though.  There are girls on the internet, just not in certain places.  I mean, look at my Gaim buddy list.
[02:49] <LjL> maybe they know better, hobbsee being an exception
[02:49] <tonyyarusso> Currently online?  5 guys.  21 girls.
[02:50] <PriceChild> haha
[02:50] <LjL> (or maybe they know worse for that matter)
[02:50] <maxamillion> PriceChild: how goes it?
[02:50] <PriceChild> hey maxamillion :)
[02:50] <PriceChild> I'm good...
[02:51] <PriceChild> my hosting got hit again yesterday.... lupine didn't warn me he was putting a new release of beryl on :P
[02:51] <maxamillion> ahhhh
[02:51] <PriceChild> and exams are over woot!
[02:51] <maxamillion> no good :(
[02:51] <PriceChild> how about you?
[02:51] <PriceChild> (hehe hosting going down isn't exactly the end of the world :P )
[02:51] <maxamillion> exams .. over? ... i just started my semester 3 days agp
[02:51] <maxamillion> ago*
[02:53] <Hobbsee> maxamillion: yeah, i am :)  a whois would tell you that, also the paste would have told you, if you'd read it :)
[02:53] <somerville32> tonyyarusso, I currently have 67 males and 9 females online
[02:53] <Hobbsee> LjL: Hobbsee|NotHere is on a different machine
[02:53] <LjL> i guessed as much
[02:53] <tonyyarusso> somerville32: Well...my friends aren't a representative sample
[02:54] <LjL> especially after considering the username and realname differences
[02:54] <Hobbsee> and they quit 3 mins after the last message
[02:54] <LjL> yup
[02:55] <maxamillion> Hobbsee: well, i skimmed the paste but i guess i missed that part :/
[02:55] <Hobbsee> hehe
[03:02] <LjL> [03:02:12]  --> High^Life has joined this channel (n=dcesiel@d14-69-192-137.try.wideopenwest.com). <- dangerous hostname this
[03:03] <tonyyarusso> Yes, I have.
[03:03] <LjL> the nick, not sure
[03:05] <tonyyarusso> LjL: Remove the ^
[03:06] <tonyyarusso> Looks harmless to me
[03:07] <LjL> don't have the nick in my logs, anyway probably just a similar hostname of course. but try.wideopenwest.com is uncommon enough for me to have it highlighted
[03:07] <tonyyarusso> LjL: Ah, that's APPRECIATEIT<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:08] <LjL> yeah, though somehow i don't think that would be his normal nickname. but yeah, he never seemed to change his ident before
[03:08] <LjL> you never know though, sometimes they can reappear after weeks... :o)
[03:09] <somerville32> That hostname is banned from #xubuntu
[03:52] <tonyyarusso> Someone with ubotu-fu?
[03:57] <somerville32> tonyyarusso, hmm?
[03:57] <tonyyarusso> somerville32: It's this "also" thing still
[03:58] <tonyyarusso> See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots and https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots/+bug/77045, and try to do it for something.
[03:59] <somerville32> !somerville32 is <reply> somerville32 is the coolest kid on the block!
[03:59] <ubotu> I'll remember that, somerville32
[03:59] <somerville32> !somerville32 is also ...or not!
[03:59] <ubotu> somerville32 is already known
[04:00] <somerville32> !somerville32 is <also> ...or not!
[04:00] <ubotu> somerville32 is already known
[04:00] <tonyyarusso> See what I mean?
[04:00] <somerville32> !somerville32 is also xubuntu
[04:00] <ubotu> somerville32 is already known
[04:00] <somerville32> !somerville32 is <also> xubuntu
[04:00] <ubotu> somerville32 is already known
[04:00] <somerville32> heh
[04:00] <somerville32> !forget somerville32
[04:00] <ubotu> I'll remember that, somerville32
[04:00] <somerville32> !foo
[04:00] <ubotu> foo is barr
[04:00] <somerville32> !bar
[04:02] <Burgundavia> somerville32: what exactly are you doing?
[04:03] <somerville32> Burgundavia, debugging
[04:03] <somerville32> tonyyarusso, Yes. I see what you mean.
[04:03] <Burgundavia> right
[04:09] <tonyyarusso> Seveas: I think you may have disregarded bug 77045 too hastily - could you please look again?
[04:09] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 77045 in ubuntu-bots ""is also" is broken" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77045
[04:13] <tonyyarusso> Hobbsee: He has a point - maybe shorter than usual
[04:13] <Hobbsee> tonyyarusso: yeah, rpobably only for a few min
[04:13] <tonyyarusso> Hobbsee: Sounds good to me
[04:14] <Hobbsee> tomFeel free to take it off whenever you like
[04:14] <Hobbsee> tonyyarusso: Feel free to take it off whenever you like
[04:14] <tonyyarusso> I totally misread that...given previous convo
[04:14] <tonyyarusso> :P
[04:14] <tonyyarusso> k
[04:15] <Hobbsee> tonyyarusso: hrm?
[04:16] <tonyyarusso> Hobbsee: Rearrange a few letters, and I thought you were pasting more annoying pms
[04:17] <Hobbsee> tonyyarusso: hrm?  i'm still lost.  my nick completion doesnt follow my brain, only my fingers.
[04:17] <tonyyarusso> Hobbsee: nvm me
[07:16] <PuMpErNiCkLe> How do you dispose of 20 000 lbs of surplus sodium?
[07:16] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Drop it in a lake and video tape it!
[07:16] <PuMpErNiCkLe> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3825610222960975525
[07:16] <PuMpErNiCkLe> woot
[07:16] <tonyyarusso> now way...
[07:16] <tonyyarusso> *no
[07:18] <tonyyarusso> Wow
[07:53] <Madpilot> PuMpErNiCkLe, very cool
[07:54] <PuMpErNiCkLe> :)
[01:49] <xipietotec> grr....racists keep coming into offtopic
[01:51] <jenda> wow... Seveas, interesting solution...
[01:51] <mc44> works everytime :)
[01:51] <Seveas> yeah, let's mut'em all
[01:51] <xipietotec> lol
[02:00] <PriceChild> could we change the topic in +1 please? AFAIK feisty's python package backlog has been done
[02:01] <Amaranth> yep, python transition is done to the point where ubuntu-desktop is installable
[02:02] <PriceChild> there's a bit at the end of the topic saying don't upgrade till the line is removed...
[02:02] <PriceChild> thankyou Seveas
[02:02] <Amaranth> i know :)
[02:03] <Amaranth> Seveas: PM?
[02:04] <Seveas> Amaranth, sure
[02:33] <ubotu> In #ubuntuforums, PriceChild said: !ubuntustats is a site that shows stats for several of the popular channels, see http://ubuntustats.homelinux.org/
[02:33] <ubotu> In #ubuntuforums, Amaranth said: !stats-#ubuntuforums is <reply>http://ubuntustats.homelinux.org/ubuntuforums/
[02:33] <Amaranth> ooh, i keep forgetting i can't do that anymore
[02:34] <jenda> !ubuntustats is a site that shows stats for several popular Ubuntu-related channels, see http://ubuntustats.homelinux.org/
[02:34] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-ops, jenda said: !ubuntustats is a site that shows stats for several popular Ubuntu-related channels, see http://ubuntustats.homelinux.org/
[02:34] <Amaranth> Seveas: can you add that factoid for me?
[02:35] <PriceChild> probs best to call the factoid "stats".... "ubuntustats" is too long :P
[02:36] <Amaranth> PriceChild: each channel has their own channel-specific !stats
[02:37] <Amaranth> well, that's the idea i'm trying to get everyone to go along with :)
[02:37] <PriceChild> Amaranth, yeah, but point them to the base url and they can choose what channel they want
[06:42] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, TheStonepedo said: ubotu: rockbox is Rockbox: Open Source Jukebox Firmware - An open source firmware replacement for MP3 players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio.  See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!
[06:43] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, MuffY said: ubotu: explosion is explosions: One of the greatest things chemistry gave us. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosion or http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Explosion for more information.
[06:56] <tonyyarusso> !rockbox
[06:56] <ubotu> rockbox is an open source firmware replacement for MP3 players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio.  See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!
[06:57] <tonyyarusso> meh
[07:26] <e1> hey i got banned in #winehq for no reason, i was asking about what wine cvs is and how i can get it, cuz i saw it on winehq.com, and some dude called vitamin kicks me off the room after giving me links after links that led nowhere, and then he said go ask someone else, and when i did, he banned me, can someone ban him...?
[07:27] <PriceChild> e1, this is an ubuntu channel, nothing to do with wine sorry
[07:27] <tonyyarusso> e1: No
[07:27] <e1> o i'm not asking about wine, i'm just asking why i got banned at all..
[07:27] <tonyyarusso> e1: #1, we don't have control over that channel, #2 there's no reason for revengeful banning
[07:28] <e1> o yeah i meant that sort of as a joke, just complaining, i was only asking a question in that channel
[07:28] <e1> is there some place i could report this?
[07:28] <e1> sorry for being in the wrong channel but this was the only op channel i knew
[07:28] <PriceChild> e1, I first suggest you speak to the op that banned you over pm. See if you can make up there
[07:29] <e1> ok
[07:32] <e1> hmm i msged him asking why i got banned, and even posted his msg to me telling me to ask someone else, i had no answer =( is there some other way, sorrie to be bothering u with this, i guess i could try rejoin that channel, see if i can
[07:33] <e1> nope, can't join that channel, o well
[07:34] <jenda> e1: I'll have a look at it.
[07:35] <e1> thx
[07:35] <jenda> e1: could you email me the log?
[07:35] <jenda> e1: jenda at ubuntu dot com
[07:37] <e1> i don't have a copy of the log of the conversation, i only had the chance to copy one line which is the line when i msged back his own msg telling me to ask again, then i was banned when i did ask, and then (using xchat), when i typed the /join command for this channel, the winehq channel tab closed by itself, and i can't get back in
[07:37] <tonyyarusso> no autolog?
[07:38] <e1> i don't know where it is, i hope there is, new to xchat and linux overall =)
[07:39] <jenda> e1: should be in your-home-dir/.xchat2/xchatlogs/Freenode-#winehq.log
[07:39] <e1> i tried " window -> raw log " in xchat, it was empty, doesn't even have the log for this one
[07:39] <e1> ok
[07:39] <e1> let me check there, thx so much
[07:42] <e1> no, under /home/computer/.xchat2/ i have an empty download folder, besides that i just have 7 configuration files: colors.conf, ignore.conf, keybindings.conf, notify.conf, and servlist_.conf,  sound.conf, and xchat.conf
[07:43] <e1> it might still be there tho, maybe i'm not turning the proper things on to view it? cuz i remember i couldn't find my emails files that's supposed to be downloaded on disk couple days ago either
[07:43] <e1> the manual for the email client also pointed to some folder that had a dot in front of it
[07:43] <e1> but i couldn't find it =(
[07:43] <PriceChild> You have to enable logging in xchat2.... its disabled by defualt
[07:45] <e1> o, could someone msg vitamin then, to make him copy and paste the whole conversation?
[07:46] <e1> o and i just now enabled logging i guess, found it under preferences
[08:10] <Terry_L> hello...is Seveas present?
[08:11] <Hawkwind> Terry_L: Not real sure, is there something we can help you with ?
[08:11] <Terry_L> yes...if you don't mind
[08:11] <Terry_L> yesterday, via a band "vote"  (Im new to chat channels)...Seveas
[08:12] <Terry_L> banned me from #ubuntu, I was told yesterday for 24 hours
[08:12] <Terry_L> it was for spam
[08:12] <Seveas> there are no set dates for bans
[08:12] <Terry_L> Its been over 24 hours
[08:12] <Seveas> especially if people keep asking to be unbanned, the bans only last longer
[08:12] <Terry_L> and I was wondering if I could be allowed back in
[08:13] <Terry_L> hello Seveas...
[08:13] <Terry_L> I was just explaining
[08:13] <Terry_L> I apologized yesterday, and asked that they pass it on to you
[08:13] <Hawkwind> Terry_L: Best thing to do is just wait it out.  If you're told 24 hours, and it's been 3 - 4 days, then it might be a bit more appropriate to ask about the ban then.  Usually asking right at 24 - 30 hours isn't a good thing
[08:14] <Terry_L> ok, np
[08:14] <tsmithe> oh nothing
[08:14] <Seveas> PriceChild, ;)
[08:14] <Terry_L> I'm 40 and am simply saying I was being silly...I have legitimate Ubuntu questions to ask
[08:14] <Terry_L> thanks guys
[08:15] <Terry_L> take care and have a good weekend
[08:15] <Hawkwind> Terry_L: You do the same
[08:17] <tonyyarusso> hehe
[08:18] <GazzaK> ---> most of them like hurting me..... :'(
[08:21] <tsmithe> specially PriceChild :P
[08:21] <tsmithe> *hide*
[08:22] <jenda> GazzaK: we all thought you like it, honest.
[08:23] <PriceChild> maybe a little too much....
[08:23] <PriceChild> :P
[08:24] <GazzaK> it's not just you two, this is institutionalised abuse!!! :p
[08:46] <jmichaelx> hey all, i was banned from #ubuntu due apparently to an exploit. if possible, could someone please readmit me? i changed my port to 8001.
[08:46] <tonyyarusso> jmichaelx: /j ##tonyyarusso for testing please
[08:46] <jmichaelx> tonyyarusso: is that what i need to enter?
[08:46] <jmichaelx> ok nevermind
[08:47] <jmichaelx> ok
[08:48] <tonyyarusso> jmichaelx: See if you can enter now.
[08:48] <jmichaelx> ok will do
[08:48] <jmichaelx> tonyyarusso: yep, i'm in
[08:48] <tonyyarusso> awesome
[08:48] <jmichaelx> thanks for the assistance
[09:31] <angstmachine> could i get some assistance from someone? i feel i was unfairly banned from #ubuntu.
[09:32] <tonyyarusso> Sorry, I don't have time.  Anyone else about?
[09:32] <Hawkwind> Who banned you and why ?
[09:33] <angstmachine> seveas banned me. i accidentally flooded the channel. i miss-typed the command to send a private message when i pasted a log.
[09:34] <ubotu> In ubotu, Caleb said: what is this?
[09:34] <Hawkwind> angstmachine: Was this your first time to flood the channel ?
[09:35] <Terry_L> hello guys...
[09:35] <Terry_L> as I'm watching this, I flooded for the first time yesterday, I'm entirely new to chat software, period
[09:35] <Terry_L> I apologized, and I'm still waiting after the 24 hr ban
[09:36] <Terry_L> can I please be left back in
[09:36] <PriceChild> Terry_L, 24 hours is just a guideline
[09:36] <Terry_L> OK, but haven't I paid a price for spamming 5 lines of chat?
[09:36] <PriceChild> Terry_L, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:37] <angstmachine> if i might make a suggestion: it seems terribly harsh to ban users on a support channel who are clearly newbies.
[09:37] <angstmachine> istakes are very easy to make.
[09:37] <Hawkwind> angstmachine: Seveas is really the only one who can unban you, or speak to you on the issue.  I wasn't in the channel and don't know your history, so I can't give you any information unfortunately
[09:37] <PriceChild> angstmachine, in the meantime you may also want to read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines quickly
[09:38] <Seveas> same applies to Terry_L
[09:38] <Terry_L> seveas...and if you look at your log, you seen the gentleman that sugg the ban to your called me a moron 2 or 3 times?
[09:39] <angstmachine> msg hawkwind i tried to talk to seveas about it, but they ignored me. i tried to apologize to the channel, as i have read the conduct and the guidelines. it was simple user error.
[09:39] <Seveas> angstmachine, no need to pm...
[09:39] <Seveas> Terry_L, you can't disagree that you gave him a reason to do so
[09:39] <Seveas> you were acting like a moron
[09:40] <angstmachine> clearly i screwed up pming anyway so it doesn't matter... i'm really very new to all this. i was just trying to get help.
[09:40] <Seveas> whether you are one or not is a different matter
[09:40] <Terry_L> Oh, I understand now
[09:40] <DBO> Seveas, perhaps i am out of line here
[09:40] <DBO> but even though he was being a moron
[09:40] <DBO> hes not being one now...
[09:40] <DBO> and hes showing at least some kind of remorse
[09:40] <Seveas> DBO, no, now he's just annoying and repeatedly asking to be unbanned
[09:40] <Terry_L> DBO knows I was on here yesterday apologizing
[09:41] <Terry_L> I even asked it to pass it along to you, my friend
[09:41] <Hawkwind> Apologizing is a good thing, but that doesn't necessarily mean your actions aren't still subject to punishment
[09:41] <Terry_L> I do realize I was being childish but didn't think spamming a line 5 times was going to get me booted
[09:41] <Terry_L> I do understand the circumstances now tho
[09:42] <Hawkwind> Terry_L: Now you know and hopefully you learn from your mistakes.  That's the best thing that can happen
[09:42] <Hawkwind> Terry_L: So you're saying you're still banned from the channel ?
[09:43] <angstmachine> is there a general administrator of this server that i could e-mail my concerns to?
[09:44] <PriceChild> angstmachine, Seveas is head of the irc council for ubuntu
[09:44] <PriceChild> (or part of the irc council if not head of it....)
[09:44] <Hawkwind> angstmachine: Freenode staff really doesn't get involved in channel issues.  So it's best to really solve the problem here if there really is a problem
[09:44] <Seveas> angstmachine, you can appeal in here, you were heared and I didn't hear anyone disagree
[09:44] <Seveas> PriceChild, the council is a bit disfunctional now it misses a member
[09:45] <PriceChild> Seveas, code it a new one ;)
[09:45] <Seveas> lol
[09:45] <Seveas> I cannot code an ompaul
[09:45] <Seveas> so we need to pick a new one
[09:47] <PriceChild> :)
[09:47] <ubotu> PriceChild, that would be hard
[09:47] <PriceChild> Hawkwind, well if you look at channel stats he is a VERY active member...
[09:47] <PriceChild> lot of experience
[09:47] <Hawkwind> PriceChild: Hah, true
[09:48] <PriceChild> Im' slightly worried he's easily prone to persuasion by others.... some may even take that as far as calling it "control"...
[09:48] <ubotu> I can't be controlled!
[09:48] <PriceChild> ubotu, be quiet and have a treat....
[09:48] <PriceChild> !botsnack
[09:48] <ubotu> Yum!
[09:49] <PriceChild> see!!! that's exactly what I'm talking about
[09:49] <ubotu> thanks PriceChild!
[09:50] <jenda> PriceChild: well he certainly took no heed of the 'be quiet' part...
[09:51] <Seveas> jenda, please cloak Amaranth
[09:51] <jenda> Gladly :)
[09:53] <jenda> Seveas, Amaranth: done
[09:53] <Seveas> nice
[09:55] <angstmachine> okay, well not to continue to beat a dead horse, but who is charge of the writing the IRC guidelines on the wiki? or the code of conduct?
[09:57] <Seveas> irc guidelines: us
[09:57] <Seveas> coc: the community council
[09:58] <PriceChild> Seveas, Joey Stanford just blogged on planet about how he's just found your source-o-matic :)
[09:58] <Seveas> PriceChild, I know
[10:02] <jenda> haha
[10:02] <jenda> !easysource
[10:02] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:03] <jenda> ooh
[10:03] <jenda> supports edgy _and_ feisty :)
[10:09] <angstmachine> okay well apparently this channel is my only recourse so what follows is my formal suggestion to the administration (i hope this doesn't count as flooding ;))::
[10:09] <angstmachine> The support channels should be a place where new users are able to go and get help, whatever their level of ability, or knowledge. Learning to use linux is a difficult proposition for any computer user, especially for users who have only ever had experience in mac or windows. But to then have to study the commands for IRC, if they are new to that as well, and be expected to exectute those commands as well as an experie
[10:09] <angstmachine> nced user is asking alot! Channels like #ubuntu, #kubuntu, ect should not punish these users for thier inexperience. If rules are violated users should be made aware of the mistake, given an opportunity to apologize, and if neccisarry kicked and made to re-connect. this should be sufficient to resolve most issues with in-experienced users. I understand to those familiar with IRC find these mistakes annoying, but the us
[10:09] <angstmachine> ers in a support channel should expect thesekind of mistakes as par for the course. We do not all log on with the same level of ability, and if we truly wish to make this OS available to as many peopleas possible we should be able to allow for different levels of ability, and treat those who might be less experienced with us with EVEN MORE care than we would treat our equals or betters.
[10:10] <Hawkwind> Ever heard of pastebin ?
[10:10] <PriceChild> angstmachine, I think its reasonable you also read guidelines
[10:12] <angstmachine> i read the guidelines... you understand i'm new to IRC. i merely came here to get help and i have been treated rudely since i logged on. maybe i have a different vision for how this all should work,
[10:12] <angstmachine> maybe if there was a #newbie channel
[10:13] <PriceChild> angstmachine, if you've read the guidelines then I'm sure you can agree they're very reasonable and there's no reason why you shouldn't follow them in the future whilst in #ubuntu* channels
[10:14] <angstmachine> i just don't want someone who is more inexperienced than me to have the experience that i did. they may never comeback, re-install windows and never look back.
[10:14] <angstmachine> i didn't violate guidelines on purpose though... if i was purposely trying to make people mad i might have deserved a ban...
[10:15] <angstmachine> i don't care if not dropping the subject gets me banned permanently, i feel i was mistreated, and that this policy should change.
[10:16] <Hawkwind> angstmachine: Are you still banned from the channel ?
[10:17] <Hawkwind> angstmachine: PM'ing users without permission happens to be considered rude.  If/When someone asks you a question here, you should answer them here.  Please refrain from doing those things
[10:17] <Hawkwind> angstmachine: So I'll ask you again, are you still banned from the channel, meaning, have you even tried to join the channel again ?
[10:18] <angstmachine> sorry, according to bugbot i am still banned. thank you for letting me know that by the way.
[10:18] <Hawkwind> angstmachine: Ok, but have you tried joining the channel ?
[10:19] <angstmachine> i have been unbanned.
[10:19] <Hawkwind> Let me shed some light on something.........
[10:19] <Hawkwind> You've been unbanned this entire time you've been complaining about it actually.  You were unbanned just a few minutes after the original ban was placed
[10:20] <Hawkwind> I discovered nearly one hour ago that you were unbanned actually.
[10:21] <angstmachine> that's fine. do you understand why i've been in here making suggestions to you all? it was very VERY frustrating to be treated so poorly, and i would hope that you will take my suggestions to heart.
[10:22] <angstmachine> i will now be turning to this avenue of support as an absolute last resort because of this experience.
[10:23] <angstmachine> thank you all for putting up with me. i'll leave you alone now.
[10:37] <somerville32> heh
[10:46] <PuMpErNiCkLe> wow
[10:47] <somerville32> PuMpErNiCkLe, What?
[10:47] <PuMpErNiCkLe> He clearly put a lot of effort into that.
[10:56] <Seveas> some people always need to have the last word
[10:56] <Seveas> Only thing to say is *shrug* or meh
[10:58] <jenda> hmm
[10:59] <Seveas> or that ;)
[11:00] <jenda> I must admit I partly agree with that guy. We can't afford to provide an offputting support environment to our users. That would make us fall to the level of other distros. We are the distro for human beings, you know.
[11:00] <jenda> That doesn't refer to any of these cases, however, as I didn't follow them.
[11:14] <PuMpErNiCkLe> What are people's opinions on +b versus +q?
[11:16] <Seveas> in this case I think it would have resulted in join/part flooding
[12:00] <ubotu> In ubotu, bobleny said: What is 2+2?


[22:52] <Nicke> good_dana: try #ubuntu-server ;)
[22:52] <erUSUL> good_dana: no afaik; you can ask here though
[22:52] <lenorek> Sionide21: In between pastings I was looking around to see if I could find the answer. I know that sometimes people don't notice messages the first time. The guy who was helping me said he needed to go to sleep and to ask someone else
[22:52] <linc1> Neubie in the House !
[22:53] <Sionide21> lenorek: I said sorry
[22:53] <good_dana> okay well i have ubuntu server 6.06 lts and i cant get the installer to recognize my sata raid
[22:53] <linc1> Looking for some support, can I be directed to the proper channel
[22:53] <Slart> linc1: what's the problem?
[22:53] <eldkraft> lenorek: are you using the terminal to mount?
[22:53] <lenorek> Sionide21: Oh. No worries. I wasn't being defensive. I was just explaining.
[22:53] <linc1> evolution sync error.
[22:54] <erUSUL> good_dana: maybe the raid card is too recent 6.06 i 2.5 years old now
[22:54] <Sionide21> lenorek: Oh, well still sorry
[22:54] <erUSUL> !raid | good_dana
[22:54] <ubotu> good_dana: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[22:54] <Slart> linc1: hmm.. can't help you with that.. don't use evolution.. but ask the channel... include errormessages, what you've tried so far etc..
[22:54] <svladcjelli> good_dana: you need alternative install cd
[22:54] <good_dana> svladcjelli: what install cd?
[22:54] <lenorek> Sionide21: :)
[22:55] <erUSUL> svladcjelli: for ubuntu server is th only one aviable
[22:55] <linc1> Ask this channel or is there one specifically for support/
[22:55] <svladcjelli> ah sorry
[22:55] <doudou> Hi how do i stop firefox asking favicon without my autorisation? i want it stop asking thing
[22:55] <Slart> linc1: this is the support channel
[22:55] <linc1> Ok thanks
[22:55] <Slart> !irc
[22:55] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[22:56] <sidd> hello people, What program can I use to sync videos to my Ipod?
[22:56] <linc1> I am experiencing evolution sync errors. I have tried previously to delete the evolution-summary files and it fixed it. Had to do this several times. But now I am running Gutsy and this doesn't fix it. I am at a loss.
[22:56] <Slart> wow.. there are lots and lots of irc-channels for ubuntu.. I thought there were about 10 or so.. must be close to a hundred
[22:56] <erUSUL> !ipod | sidd
[22:56] <ubotu> sidd: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[22:57] <lenorek> kitche: thanks for that. I am one step closer. I did what you said and now disks are mounting. Data disks are fine. Totem couldn't read my DVD though "Error: Could not read from resource."... any ideas?
[22:57] <erUSUL> !dvd | lenorek
[22:57] <ubotu> lenorek: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[22:57] <kelsin> doudou: I think you can goto "about:config" in firefox. In the top filter type in "favicon" and change the one value that shows up to false. I don't know for sure if that does it, but it might
[22:57] <calmar> hi all. ubunto and debian, are they working together nicely or not really? just wondering
[22:57] <calmar> (developers)
[22:57] <erUSUL> !offtopic | calmar
[22:57] <ubotu> calmar: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[22:58] <calmar> is this offtopic.
[22:59] <AndyR> calmar, erUSUL thinks so lol
[22:59] <doudou> kelsin, i love you
[22:59] <erUSUL> calmar: i classify it into "random chatter" :)
[22:59] <Toast> Hi, I'm trying to install flash on an x86_64 system, but the installer fails with an MD5sum mismatch. can anyone help?
[23:00] <kitche> Toast: read the topic
[23:00] <calmar> hm. well i try it in the other chan then
[23:00] <heatmzzr> hello all
[23:00] <erUSUL> Toast: it is known error dunno if there is some workaraound search launchpad for the bug report
[23:00] <Toast> kitche: I did. I went through the faqs... they seemed inconclusive.
[23:00] <mvanbaak> !Medibuntu
[23:00] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[23:00] <kitche> erUSUL Toast yeah the workaround is to install it manually
[23:01] <Toast> erUSUL: I'll have a look, thanks.
[23:01] <erUSUL> Toast: yw
[23:01] <sd32_> will medibuntu work for kubuntu also?
[23:01] <dax_it> Hi guys
[23:01] <musix> . vsx
[23:01] <Toast> kitche: I tried a manual install from the Adobe website, but they say that they don't support x86_64
[23:01] <erUSUL> sd32_: yes
[23:01] <dax_it> am the new ubuntu baby in town
[23:01] <kitche> Toast: well they don't you need to use nspluginwrapper or make a chroot
[23:01] <sd32_> erUSUL, thanks
[23:02] <linc1> Need support for evolution sync errors..... anyone that can help me
[23:02] <erUSUL> Toast: manual installation for 64bits is more "convoluted" i would wait till a fix is released
[23:02] <dax_it> help me install quick time player
[23:02] <coriander> Any suggestions for how I can make an iso from a data CD?
[23:02] <erUSUL> !codecs
[23:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[23:02] <maestrojed> how can I find out a list of users and their uid
[23:02] <kitche> coriander: dd can be used
[23:02] <svladcjelli> dax_it: vlc should play it fine
[23:03] <erUSUL> coriander: cat /dev/xxxx > isofile.iso
[23:03] <erUSUL> coriander: ;)
[23:03] <bruenig> erUSUL, dd if=/dev/xxxx of=isofile.iso is preferred no?
[23:03] <Zikiti> HOw do I get gnome to remember the "unmaximized" window state size and positions? Is there some option?
[23:03] <JarG0n> Any idea why the Ubuntu loading screen would not display on a Dell Dimension 2400 ?
[23:04] <Slart> JarG0n: 64bit or 32bit? I can't get it to work either on my 64bit gutsy
[23:04] <dax_it> svladcjelli how do install vlc
[23:04] <erUSUL> bruenig: the end result is the same afaics but yes dd is the generic app to do "binary copies"
[23:04] <ikonia> Slart: what package is failing
[23:04] <svladcjelli> dax_it: add/remove programs
[23:04] <Slart> ikonia: the boot loading screen
[23:05] <ikonia> Slart: you're having trouble on both 32 and 64bit releases
[23:05] <aaanone> can anyone tell me what theme is in the topmost screenshot here? http://gobby.0x539.de/trac/wiki/Screenshots
[23:05] <ikonia> aaanone: gnome-look.org
[23:05] <Slart> ikonia: haven't tried 32bit.. it doesn't bother me so I just disabled it
[23:05] <ikonia> aaanone: have a look
[23:05] <ikonia> Slart: ok
[23:05] <kelsin> aaanone: I'm pretty sure it's Clearlooks
[23:05] <ikonia> Slart: we'll back burner that one
[23:05] <dax_it> svladcjelli i want to stream from the web page itself of which vlc cannot
[23:05] <JarG0n> Slart> 32
[23:06] <linuxnewperson>  PCMCIA Card 300mps  working on gutsy laptop  ..possible  or not ?
[23:06] <aaanone> kelsin: that's just clearlooks? hmm, thanks for the suggestion
[23:06] <svladcjelli> dax_it: mplayer-plugin may work
[23:06] <Slart> JarG0n: then I don't know.. but you're not missing much =)
[23:07] <linc1> quit
[23:07] <dax_it> svladcjelli: Let me try I hope it will work as a plugin!
[23:07] <linc1> leave
[23:07] <linc1> bye
[23:07] <linc1> later
[23:07] <linc1> see ya
[23:07] <TheZealot> Using apt-get, is there a way to automatically install all suggested packagaes without just writing them down and installing them afterwards?
[23:07] <kjp2> I have a most curious problem. The system detects a RT8139 nic, and loads the 8139too module. but I never get an eth0 device
[23:07] <svladcjelli> that is the idea dax_it
[23:07] <JarG0n> Slart> but it's sooo pretty
[23:07] <AndyR> !ubuntu server
[23:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu server - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:07] <poseidon> Does anybody here have a linkys wusb54gc? I want to see if it will work on the new version of ubuntu before I get it. It didn't work on the old one
[23:07] <Slart> JarG0n: hehe.. print out a static version and look at it once in a while =)
[23:08] <magnetron> !hardware > poseidon
[23:08] <svladcjelli> TheZealot: use aptitude instead
[23:08] <TheZealot> is aptitude pre-installed?
[23:08] <svladcjelli> yes
[23:08] <svladcjelli> smarter apt-get
[23:08] <erUSUL> kjp2: o.O!! maybe it needs 8139cp ??
[23:09] <kjp2> erUSUL: Tried that. No luck
[23:09] <xenthro> lenorek do you have libdvdcss2 and libdvdread3 installed?
[23:09] <nicolah> any help here with ices ?
[23:09] <dax_it> svladcjelli am at add/remove program wat next!?
[23:09] <nicolah> (online streaming)
[23:09] <svladcjelli> dax_it: search for mplayer and install mplayer plug in
[23:09] <phxheat> in ubuntu server, how do i jail an account to a specific dir? whats a good ubuntu server howto site btw
[23:10] <kitche> phxheat: you chroot not jail they do different things
[23:10] <erUSUL> kjp2: no clue on dmesg ??
[23:10] <kjp2> kjp2: nope. it finds the card just fine
[23:10] <kjp2> I'd pastebin the output if that computer had net access
[23:11] <asnd16> anyone know anything about Quickcam Pro 9000? I am running Gusty and am having issues
[23:11] <erUSUL> !clone | TheZealot
[23:11] <ubotu> TheZealot: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[23:11] <kjp2> erUSUL: and for some reason my old FA310-TX won't work either
[23:11] <erUSUL> kjp2: what is that?
[23:11] <ipx> For some weird reason, I've gotten linux-kernel-server installed on my desktop. (I have absolutely no idea how). What is the best way to handle this situation? Just let it be, or try to remove it?
[23:11] <asnd16> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636080&page=2
[23:11] <kjp2> erUSUL: 1998 era pci ethernet card. used to work fine back in 2.4 days with the tulip module
[23:11] <asnd16> If anyone could help me out on this little issue let me know. . http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636080&page=2
[23:12] <xenthro> anybody know how to restrict klibido to a single instance? It keeps opening new instances when i open files instead of adding it to the existing instance
[23:12] <erUSUL> kjp2: i have a card here (integrated eth) that works with the tulip driver....
[23:12] <kjp2> asnd16: what's the problem
[23:12] <kitche> ipx: you could keep it installed or install the desktop kernel and reboot into that then remove the server kernel
[23:13] <ctp> hi folks. how to allow ssh client to accept rsa keys automatically without any confirmation?
[23:13] <ipx> kitche: Im in desktop now - how do i remove the server-kernel? What packages?
[23:13] <asnd16> I just got it today and I have never previously had a webcam installed on the computer but it does not show what so ever and gives me the error Could not connect to video device (/dev/vide0)
[23:13] <kitche> ipx: just look up server packages and you should find it in the list that comes up
[23:14] <kjp2> erUSUL: is the kernel in server that drastically different that a consumer, off the shelf compaq machine can't be used with ubuntu server?
[23:14] <bazz> is there a way to control the caps/num/scroll lock leds from the command line?  dell laptop.
[23:14] <dax_it> svladcjelli : you know, I only know how to use fedora but ubuntu I have just installed today as my 1st time give me guide, step by step
[23:14] <ipx> kitche: ok :) thx
[23:14] <kitche> kjp2: server kernel is just some addons to the kernel to make it run better for servers "big irons"
[23:14] <kjp2> asnd16: run lsusb and show me in pastebin
[23:14] <svladcjelli> dax_it: you may need tyo change dropdown menu at top of add/remove to say 'all available applications'
[23:14] <kjp2> kitche:  so there's no reason why it shouldn't work on a compaq desktop
[23:15] <erUSUL> kjp2: dunno; you can easily try the generic kernel i think if you think that may be the problem
[23:15] <kitche> kjp2: there is no reason really
[23:15] <unstable_geek> hi gang. gotta sparc question. is this the right channel?
[23:16] <erUSUL> kjp2: i use a custom compiled kernel myself but hadn't have any problerms with the ubuntu one either
[23:16] <kitche> !sparc | unstable_geek
[23:16] <ubotu> unstable_geek: Have a look here for Docs http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/install/sparc/ KnownIssues and TODO are on the wiki.
[23:16] <unstable_geek> thanks
[23:16] <kitche> unstable_geek: since not many people probably have sparc systems to even answer your question
[23:17] <unstable_geek> fiar enough.  The forums are pretty cilent, I was hoping to get in touch with a dev
[23:17] <kjp2> Is there any reason the ubuntu server wouldn't automatically create /dev/eth0 /dev/eth1 for devices it's detected ?
[23:17] <kitche> unstable_geek: well devs don't come in here really :) once in a while you might catch a employee though of canicoal
[23:18] <calmar> what is the difference when I install: ubuntu + kde then. and on the other side: kubuntu ? not much I guess?
[23:18] <wols> kjp2: ifconfig -a. are there any other eth devices listed?
[23:18] <kjp2> I installed ubuntu through vmware, since the server box for some fscked up reason won't boot from cd
[23:18] <unstable_geek> kitche: should I check out the #ubuntu-dev channel?
[23:18] <kjp2> wols:  yes. eth0, eth1, eth2
[23:18] <erUSUL> kjp2: afaik ifaces are not devices. You do not get /dev/eth0 you get eth0 aviable trough ifconfig or ip to configure
[23:19] <MacTheMad> hello... total newbie... just installed ubuntu 7.10 server on another machine & can't get gnome gui up & running
[23:19] <asnd16> KJP2 -  lsusb
[23:19] <asnd16> Bus 005 Device 003: ID 046d:0990 Logitech, Inc.
[23:19] <asnd16> Bus 005 Device 002: ID 1058:1100 Western Digital Technologies, Inc.
[23:19] <asnd16> Bus 005 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[23:19] <asnd16> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[23:19] <asnd16> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[23:19] <wols> kjp2: so you have ethX. why are you complaining?
[23:19] <asnd16> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[23:19] <asnd16> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[23:19] <kjp2> wols: any reason I shouldn't be able to get them to come up with dhcp ?
[23:19] <erUSUL> kjp2: if ifconfig list your devices then they were perfectly detected and are aviable for configuration
[23:19] <svladcjelli> MacTheMad: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[23:20] <MacTheMad> ty
[23:20] <svladcjelli> server does not have gui by default
[23:20] <wols> kjp2: depends. which ones are mentioned in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[23:20] <komputes> asnd16: use pastebin dude
[23:20] <Loftroffle> ok what gives this is trange
[23:20] <kjp2> wols: eth0 and lo
[23:20] <Loftroffle> *strange
[23:20] <Loftroffle> I want to change my mouse cursor/cursor theme
[23:20] <wols> kjp2: and eth0 is what? your firewire or one of your NICs?
[23:21] <Loftroffle> I find this on the forums: "Can I install new mouse cursors? In System/Preferences/Mouse/Pointers it only lets me choose from a list of themes; I can't add any new ones. I'm using Edgy, but the same was true in Dapper."
[23:21] <erUSUL> kjp2: you can add configuration for the other cards on the same file
[23:21] <Loftroffle> I'm also on edgy
[23:21] <Loftroffle> but the thing is
[23:21] <Loftroffle> there is no Pointers tab!
[23:21] <kjp2> wols:  one of the nics
[23:21] <MacTheMad> yes thank you... got it
[23:21] <linuxnewperson> faster wifi on gutsy laptop ...hardware possiblities
[23:21] <Loftroffle> so I can't even get as far as this guy!
[23:21] <kjp2> erUSUL: yeah but the one there doesn't work...
[23:21] <kjp2> when i run ifup eth0
[23:21] <kjp2> I get
[23:21] <Loftroffle> did Gnome decide to eat up the cursor theme selection because it was too confusing for users or something? what gives D:
[23:21] <kjp2> siocsifaddr: No Such Device
[23:22] <kjp2> Eth0: error while getting interface flags: no such device
[23:22] <unstable_geek> kjp2: what does dmesg | tail tell you just after you ran ifup eth0?
[23:22]  * TTilus is about to install amd64 gutsy and use softraid, is it possible to set up softraid within installer and so that _all_ goes into raid (ie. you do not need separate / and /boot)
[23:22] <svladcjelli> Loftroffle: appearance>customize
[23:22] <TTilus> any suggestions?
[23:22] <sd32_> i went back to the system default because i had problems with the theme going away in certain windows
[23:23] <wols> TTilus: afaik not with the installer
[23:23] <kjp2> unstable_geek: it says net: registered protocol family 17
[23:23] <Loftroffle> svladcjelli: oh geez I thought I'd looked in here. That's really hidden D: thanks :)
[23:23] <svladcjelli> ;)
[23:23] <erUSUL> !raid | TTilus
[23:23] <ubotu> TTilus: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[23:23] <Cyserox> sup guys
[23:23] <Jack_Sparrow> TTilus:  would not bother with softraid...
[23:23] <unstable_geek> that's weird
[23:23] <Cyserox> i was asking in the linux channel wat linux distro is rigfht for me, and they directed me here
[23:23] <kitche> unstable_geek: you can but that's not the channel that your thinking of really
[23:23] <wols> Jack_Sparrow: why not?
[23:23] <kjp2> exactly.
[23:24] <Cyserox> anyone have screen shots of ubuntu looking sexy? Lol
[23:24] <TTilus> Jack_Sparrow: well, it _has_ given me considerable speedup and i dont expect it to disappear on this reinstall  ;)
[23:24] <erUSUL> Cyserox: google has a million i'm sure ;)
[23:24] <wols> kjp2: then set up eth1 and eth2 as well
[23:24] <Cyserox> lol
[23:24] <Jack_Sparrow> wols: I can handle my own backups and there isnt the speed difference there used to be in raid that made me use it in the first place
[23:24] <unstable_geek> kitche: ok. maybe I'd better track down someone on the kernel mailing list.  I've got a real strange problem of the filesystem not holding changes after a reboot
[23:24] <vbabiy_laptop> hey guys is there any way i can restart x on a box using ssh
[23:24] <wols> raid is no backup
[23:24] <JakeConnor> can anyone here load sourceforge.com? it seems to be down for me
[23:24] <svladcjelli> Cyserox: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lcv_l7Y73o ?
[23:25] <Jack_Sparrow> wols: I understand what raid is..
[23:25] <lucian> JakeConnor: sourceforge.net?
[23:25] <vbabiy_laptop> sourceforge is up here
[23:25] <erUSUL> vbabiy_laptop: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[23:25] <vbabiy_laptop> erUSUL: thanks
[23:25] <TTilus> Jack_Sparrow: i wont be mirroring, but striping, raid0 you see
[23:25] <TTilus> Jack_Sparrow: i do my backups too  ;)
[23:25] <kjp2> wols: ok, with the second card in the box, i can bring up eth1, as the onboard card
[23:25] <JakeConnor> lucian: either
[23:26] <kitche> JakeConnor: well the site is sourceforge.net not .com anyways
[23:26] <Jack_Sparrow> wols: Yep..  I used to have striping and mirror
[23:26] <magnetron> do you know any webservers except apache that support content negotiation? (multiple languages support)
[23:26] <Jack_Sparrow> sorry that was for TTilus
[23:26] <asnd16>  lsusb
[23:26] <asnd16> Bus 005 Device 003: ID 046d:0990 Logitech, Inc.
[23:26] <asnd16> Bus 005 Device 002: ID 1058:1100 Western Digital Technologies, Inc.
[23:26] <asnd16> Bus 005 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[23:26] <asnd16> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[23:26] <asnd16> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[23:26] <asnd16> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[23:26] <asnd16> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[23:26] <Jack_Sparrow> asnd16: Stop it
[23:26] <lucian> JakeConnor: came up for me
[23:26] <magnetron> !paste > asnd16
[23:26] <erUSUL> asnd16: again?
[23:27] <asnd16> got it
[23:27] <asnd16> sorry . .  sticky fingers
[23:27] <kjp2> asnd16: use pastebin. until you've used pastebin i'm not helping
[23:27] <asnd16> how do you use pastebin?
[23:27] <lucian> !pastebin
[23:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[23:28] <asnd16> thanx its been years that I have been in IRC
[23:28] <asnd16> !pastbin
[23:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:28] <svladcjelli> asnd16: found it right under your forum post googling http://liquidat.wordpress.com/2007/12/07/howto-logitech-quickcam-pro-9000-with-fedora-8/
[23:28] <asnd16> that is fedora
[23:28] <asnd16> would it would with mine as well?
[23:29] <asnd16> Or with gusty . . .
[23:29] <magnetron> !msgthebot > asnd16 (read private msg from ubotu)
[23:29] <svladcjelli> same steps asnd16
[23:29] <svladcjelli> you have to get the updated driver and compile it yourself
[23:29] <unstable_geek> help /join
[23:30] <unstable_geek> oops
[23:30] <unstable_geek> haha
[23:30] <svladcjelli> but asnd16 have you checked if it works in ekiga?
[23:30] <unstable_geek> help /leave
[23:30] <kbrooks> how do i make firefox start faster?
[23:30] <svladcjelli> cause that driver is in gutsy
[23:30] <unstable_geek> damn! i did it again :D
[23:30] <UBUNTUISLOVED> add more ram
[23:30] <flipmode> how do i get mp3 support for k3b?
[23:31] <UBUNTUISLOVED> apt-get install k3b-mp3
[23:31] <Jack_Sparrow> flipmode: synaptic has an addon for k3b
[23:31] <kbrooks> UBUNTUISLOVED, not a solution
[23:31] <BB88> Anybody know of a CD Ripper better than Sound Juicer; it is very limited?
[23:31] <UBUNTUISLOVED> kbrooks search firefox start faster on google
[23:31] <lucian> kbrooks: i think there is an add-on at firefox.com addon section that lets you tweak stuff so it will start-up a bit faster. However, you could always use lynx or w3m if you want quickness
[23:31] <Slart> BB88: have you tried serpentine?
[23:31] <UBUNTUISLOVED> cd ripper why not use one from the command line?
[23:31] <BB88> No. Is that availble in the Synaptic?
[23:32] <ikonia> UBUNTUISLOVED: that is not a cdripper
[23:32] <ikonia> BB88: xripper ?
[23:32] <Benalex> Slart: I wanna be more specific, I have a HiFidelio (a music server) which is running yellow dog linux.. and can be accessed by telnet , this music server can burn audo and mp3 discs... i have tried the commands you gave me but none of them worked, any suggestions?
[23:32] <SonicChao> I like the LTS versions, so when the next one comes out (which I'm not sure is when?), will I be able to update directly to it?
[23:32] <UBUNTUISLOVED> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=firefox+start+faster&btnG=Search
[23:32] <BB88> ikonia: Is there a installer package?
[23:32] <ikonia> UBUNTUISLOVED: do you have a question ?
[23:32] <SonicChao> Instead of updating to Edgy, then Gusty? :|
[23:32] <ikonia> BB88: I'm not %100 if xripper is in the ubuntu repo's
[23:32] <Jack_Sparrow> SonicChao: you should be able to go from lts to lts
[23:32] <Slart> BB88: I think it is.. do a search for serpentine
[23:32] <SonicChao> (then the next LTS version?)
[23:33] <Jack_Sparrow> !release | SonicChao
[23:33] <ubotu> SonicChao: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[23:33] <Slart> Benalex: what commands did I give you?
[23:33] <UBUNTUISLOVED> ikonia yes they make cdripper from the command line
[23:33] <erUSUL> BB88: i use grip
[23:33] <ikonia> UBUNTUISLOVED: please don't talk nonsense
[23:33] <UBUNTUISLOVED> abcde is one
[23:33] <Benalex> Slart: you gave me cdrecord.. and some people suggested wodim and growisofs
[23:33] <ikonia> UBUNTUISLOVED: if you are attempting to troll, I will request you leave now
[23:34] <UBUNTUISLOVED> ikonia im going to warn you to stop ! this is your warning
[23:34] <Slart> Benalex: ah.. they didn't work? were you able to install the programs?
[23:34] <loke_> UBUNTUISLOVED: You're not helping anyone by giving incorrect advice.
[23:34] <ikonia> loke_: it's being delt with
[23:34] <BB88> erUSUL: How would I go about install 'grip' ?
[23:34] <Benalex> I can install packages...
[23:34] <Chousuke> UBUNTUISLOVED sounds like a bot :P
[23:35] <erUSUL> BB88: Applications>Add/remove
[23:35] <Slart> Benalex: and were any of those packages available for your machine?
[23:35] <Rezagrats> Ok!: downloading and configuring jircii manually, anyone have a video on how to do it?!
[23:35] <BB88> Grip is not the repo's?
[23:35] <MacTheMad> quit
[23:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !info grip
[23:35] <ubotu> grip: GNOME-based CD-player/ripper/encoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3.1-12ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 457 kB, installed size 1304 kB
[23:35] <Benalex> Slart: aha.. I got your point... I'll do some search about burning packages available in yello dog
[23:35] <BB88> Wait, it is, I had the combo-box set to installed only ;)
[23:35] <SonicChao> Jack_Sparrow, the wiki page on TimeBasedRelesaes doesn't really answer this
[23:36] <BB88> Thank you erUSUL.
[23:36] <Slart> Benalex: do that.. or ask in a channel for your distro.. they will probably know better
[23:36] <loke_> SonicChao: You can't skip from one lts to the other.  There will be too much "breakage".
[23:36] <erUSUL> BB88: no problem
[23:36] <Jack_Sparrow> SonicChao: I seem to remember that you will be able to go from lts 6.06 to the next lts.. without the other steps
[23:36] <kbrooks> i want firefox to, and this is the key word, start up, faster
[23:37] <Benalex> Slart: have you heard about xcdroast?
[23:37] <kbrooks> Jack_Sparrow, you can't, not without a reinstall
[23:37] <erUSUL> kbrooks: disable all the extensions you may have
[23:37] <ikonia> Jack_Sparrow: LTS to LTS should work, there are questions over glibc upgrades
[23:37] <Slart> Benalex: perhaps.. the name sounds familiar.. but isn't that a gui application?
[23:37] <LjL> kbrooks: how do you know that?
[23:37] <ikonia> kbrooks: look at pre-linking
[23:37] <SonicChao> uh...what?
[23:37] <ikonia> LjL: he doesn't
[23:37] <Jack_Sparrow> ikonia: thats what I thought
[23:37] <SonicChao> I can or can't? D:
[23:37] <jftsang> Hi, does Ubuntu 7.10 Server have a GUI?
[23:37] <ikonia> LjL: standard issue randomness
[23:37] <asnd16> yeah that did not work
[23:38] <ikonia> jftsang: not installed by default
[23:38] <kbrooks> SonicChao, ok, can, but the questions lurk over your head ;-)
[23:38] <Benalex> Slart: I don't know , but it is listed in Yellow dogs accessories
[23:38] <magnetron> kbrooks: you want a faster browser? install epiphany.
[23:38] <loke_> jftsang: No, the server edition does not come with a gui pre-installed.
[23:38] <jftsang> ok, how do I install one then
[23:38] <erUSUL> SonicChao: i guess we will know when we read the release notes ;)
[23:38] <ikonia> kbrooks: it's not over his head - its over your head, thats why you don't know
[23:38] <SonicChao> !info glibc
[23:38] <ubotu> Package glibc does not exist in gutsy
[23:38] <LjL> SonicChao, i guess the reasonable answer is, there is no LTS other than 6.06 out yet, so "there's no way you'd know". but i'm pretty confident they'll try hard to implement seamless LTS->LTS upgrading, as that's quite a vital feature
[23:38] <Slart> Benalex: applications with a x in front of them are usually gui applications running in x-windows..
[23:38] <ikonia> kbrooks: don't put people down when you actually don't understand
[23:38] <magnetron> jftsang: no, but you can use a graphical version of ubuntu as a server
[23:38] <loke_> jftsang: sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop gnome-extras
[23:38] <jftsang> loke_: ok
[23:38] <loke_> jftsang: However, kde and others are available.
[23:38] <SonicChao> LjL, okay. It would be a pain to skip from one update to another. xD
[23:38] <loke_> jftsang: It epends on what you want.
[23:39] <kk> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzeSey6I28U
[23:39] <kbrooks> ikonia, i did not put him down. i said yes he can, but i was referring to the glibc upgrade questions that lurk over his head
[23:39]  * jftsang likes GNOME more than KDE
[23:39] <ikonia> kk: this is a support forum
[23:39] <SonicChao> Glibc?
[23:39] <SonicChao> What?
[23:39] <Eja> i need ur vote www.publicpet.gr/ejavaqel/vote , from Greece!:d
[23:39] <kk> yes
[23:39] <ikonia> kbrooks: no - you said you can't without a re-install, you didn't know about the glibc potential issues until I mentioned it, so don't say things you don't understand or know nothing about and don't say things are over peoples head
[23:39] <SonicChao> !glibc
[23:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glibc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:39] <LjL> kk: then why are you posting youtube links?
[23:40] <kbrooks> ikonia, sorry
[23:40] <BB88> erUSUL: How can I configure the bitrate, output format, folder ouput. Sorry I am a nub ;)
[23:40] <ikonia> kbrooks: if you don't know something, don't talk with authority
[23:40] <SonicChao> Everyone's arguing :|
[23:40] <SonicChao> But what is glibc? DD:
[23:40] <ikonia> SonicChao: its the core system libary of ubuntu
[23:40] <LjL> SonicChao, the GNU implementation of the standard C library
[23:40] <Jack_Sparrow> kbrooks: YEs, you did say ...  <kbrooks> Jack_Sparrow, you can't, not without a reinstall
[23:40] <ikonia> SonicChao: or linux in general I should say
[23:40] <Rezagrats> Java, how do i manually install it ?
[23:41] <jftsang> loke_ : Couldn't find package
[23:41] <Ganjistus> hiogh
[23:41] <Ganjistus> heh
[23:41] <kk> it is impotant that u watch it!
[23:41] <ikonia> Jack_Sparrow: its standard issue kbrooks stuff, talk nonsense
[23:41] <ikonia> kk: its not important and it's nothing to do with ubuntu
[23:41] <Ganjistus> how can i add a second gateway?
[23:41] <kbrooks> Jack_Sparrow, i know, i misunderstood what ikonia was saying, now its clear, please drop it
[23:41] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[23:41] <ikonia> kbrooks: you didn't understnad, you didn't know, as normal and just made up a response
[23:41] <Jangari> is there a bash command to return all my hardware information on this machine? ram, processor, etc.,?
[23:41] <Ganjistus> there is no gui to add a second gateway, i am multihomed
[23:41] <kbrooks> ikonia, ok i admit it
[23:41] <Rezagrats> How do i manually install java?
[23:41] <loke_> jftsang: Sorry, apprently it's now: sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment
[23:41] <ikonia> Jack_Sparrow: lshw
[23:41] <ikonia> Jack_Sparrow: sorry
[23:42] <ikonia> Jangari: lshw
[23:42] <SonicChao> kbrooks, It's ok c: I'm not mad at you
[23:42] <Jangari> ta
[23:42] <erUSUL> BB88: on the Configure tab ??
[23:42] <SonicChao> You just confused me for a minute is all
[23:42] <LjL> ikonia, kbrooks, Jack_Sparrow: please take it to -offtopic or somewhere now
[23:42] <ikonia> LjL: its done
[23:42] <ikonia> just fed up with
[23:42] <jftsang> loke_ ok
[23:42] <Ganjistus> i am cowfused
[23:42] <SonicChao> Ganjistus, about?
[23:43] <lockd> does anyone know of a UI builder like 'Interface Builder' or 'Gorm', but embedded in an IDE?
[23:43] <CaptainMorgan> !dotedit
[23:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dotedit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:43] <erUSUL> BB88: i know it is not the more intuitive piece of software but you wanted something more configurable than sound juicer...
[23:43] <etfb> lockd: try Lazarus, a Pascal IDE similar to Delphi
[23:43] <jftsang> loke_: still no D:
[23:43]  * jftsang goes tobed
[23:43] <lockd> etfb: Pascal only?
[23:43] <Kobaka> Hey guys, do any of you know a lot about VirtualBox?
[23:43] <etfb> lockd: Yep, but with object oriented extensions
[23:43] <CaptainMorgan> anyone work with DotEdit, a graph and node editing app? I click on it in the menu but it never opens... I checked with ps -aux to see if it was running and it's not, I reinstalled the program to no avail... any ideas?
[23:44] <winkman> Kobaka: I know a little?
[23:44] <harkonen> kobaka: what do you need to know?
[23:44] <lockd> etfb: Never used it, C-ish is best
[23:44] <etfb> lockd: Delphi is my preferred language (out of about 30 that I know) for dev work on Windoze
[23:44] <erUSUL> !info lazarus
[23:44] <ubotu> lazarus: Rapid Application Development (RAD) tool for Free Pascal. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-1 (gutsy), package size 35749 kB, installed size 151628 kB (Only available for i386 powerpc sparc amd64)
[23:44] <etfb> lockd: Lazarus is pretty similar, although flakey at times
[23:44] <lockd> etfb: (best because I've spent 12 weeks coding Java)
[23:44] <Gatestone> Firefox keeps freezing on Gutsy, every 10 minutes or so...?
[23:44] <Kobaka> Well i'm trying to install Windows 98 SE, but it wont read the CD.
[23:44] <Kobaka> So i was wondering if i'm missing something...
[23:44] <etfb> lockd: I've done no Java (it makes me itch)
[23:44] <SonicChao> Kobaka > ##windows
[23:45] <Gatestone> Tried removing and re-instra
[23:45] <etfb> lockd: try Mono if you don't mind C#
[23:45] <PasteL> have anyone managed to install shockwave direcotr in to firefox or opera?
[23:45] <Gatestone> Tried removing and re-installing FF but it still freezes all the time, after short usage.
[23:45] <lockd> etfb: java gets annoying with OOP
[23:45] <loke_> Gatestone: Possible flash plugin issue?
[23:45] <harkonen> Kobaka: I've never tried installing windows into Virtualbox only other linuxes.  is it a legit copy of windows? and did you set up the virtual machine properly?
[23:46] <Gatestone> Id the flash a FF E
[23:46] <soldats> PasteL, whats shockwave director
[23:46] <etfb> lockd: it's horribly verbose.  C# isn't much better (although slightly); Delphi (and Lazarus) are a vast improvement
[23:46] <ikonia> loke_: doubtful as the flash plugin package won't currently install
[23:46] <lockd> etfb: I end up throwing that part away, by sharing everything
[23:46] <Gatestone> Id the flash a FF E
[23:46] <xenthro> BB88 k3b has plenty of configurable cd ripping stuff
[23:46] <PasteL> is not flash plugin, "Shockwave Director" for open this page.. http://www.isketch.net/isketch.shtml
[23:46] <BB88> That in the depo?
[23:46] <helluvaCSMajor> how do i set my scroll wheel button to toggle between scroll mode and regular, like in Windows?
[23:46] <xenthro> yes
[23:46] <xenthro> i used it about a dozen times
[23:46] <etfb> lockd: also might be worth looking at BoaConstructor, a pig-ugly but full-featured IDE for Python
[23:46] <Gatestone> loke_, I have no FF Flash Add-on in Tools/Add-ons
[23:47] <soldats> PasteL, ahh ok ill look into it
[23:47] <etfb> (Python's a vast improvement again over its competition)
[23:47] <loke_> Gatestone: Type about:plugins in the address bar
[23:47] <BB88> erUSUL: I keep getting an error "Invalid encoder executable". I do not know the location of lame encoder, do I need to download and move it somewhere, or is it already located somehwere? :D
[23:47] <Benalex> how can I search for a file in terminal?
[23:47] <loke_> Benalex: locate file
[23:47] <helluvaCSMajor> how do i set my scroll wheel button to toggle between scroll mode and regular, like in Windows?
[23:47] <ikonia> Benalex: find
[23:47] <harkonen> Benalex: locate
[23:48] <Kobaka> harkone: yeah, it's legit. And i believe i did, but i'll go through it again.
[23:48] <etfb> Benalex: general form is "sudo find / -name froggy*" to find all files starting with "froggy"
[23:49] <etfb> Benalex: sudo saves you seeing error messages about inaccessible directories
[23:49] <harkonen> Kobaka: I guess make sure you have the boot volume for your virtual machine set to read your real CD/DVD drive.
[23:49] <Benalex> thank you all
[23:49] <etfb> Benalex: not familiar with locate; must look that up...
[23:49] <harkonen> Kobaka: otherwise it'll try to boot from the virtual machine hard drive, which right now is empty
[23:49] <helluvaCSMajor> how do i set my scroll wheel button to toggle between scroll mode and regular, like in Windows?
[23:49] <loke_> !info locate
[23:49] <ubotu> Package locate does not exist in gutsy
[23:49] <loke_> woops
[23:50] <Jack_Sparrow> etfb: man locate   might get you the info you need
[23:50] <ikonia> etfb: cached file syste find, effective for core file systems
[23:50] <akorn> anybody here able to help me figure out why my emerald compiz themes keep crashing?
[23:50] <etfb> loke_: I'm guessing it's part of bash?
[23:50] <Kobaka> harkonen: hmm, that might be it... thanks
[23:50] <Benalex> etfb: *fro* will find any file that has fro in its name?
[23:50] <etfb> Jack_Sparrow: (I'm at work and using Windoze now, but it's on my to-do list for lunchtime... thanks!)
[23:50] <Jack_Sparrow> np.. and welcome to the channel
[23:51] <helluvaCSMajor> how do i set my scroll wheel button to toggle between scroll mode and regular, like in Windows?
[23:51] <lgc> Dç
[23:51] <etfb> Benalex: yes, but wrap it in quotes just to be on the safe side, ie sudo find / -iname "*fro*"
[23:51] <CaptainMorgan> anyone?
[23:51] <Slart> etfb: doesn't find use regexps?
[23:51] <Shpoo1> Hello everyone...Is there a simple way to create a FTP folder on the desktop?
[23:52] <loke_> etfb: Here's the man entry for locate in case you don't feel like waiting.  http://pastebin.ca/815336
[23:52] <etfb> Slart: I thought it uses globs (ie "*" in glob means ".*" in regexp) but it might be an option.  man find   is your friend
[23:52] <neverblue> Shpoo1, ?
[23:52] <loke_> etfb: note: man locate brings up the manual for slocate.
[23:52] <Slart> Shpoo1: a "ftp folder"? what do you mean by that?
[23:52] <erUSUL> BB88: you have to install it use synaptic
[23:52] <lgc> How can I reload the SMP kernel? thanks.
[23:52] <neverblue> what do you mean Shpoo1 ?
[23:52] <Slart> etfb: yes.. perhaps it does.. nevermind
[23:52] <erUSUL> BB88: or in command line 'sudo apt-get install lame'
[23:52] <ikonia> lgc: reboot
[23:52] <Shpoo1> neverblue: I want to create a folder that has an open connection to my FTP server...and I was told it can be done
[23:53] <Shpoo1> so I figured this is the best place to ask, since google isn't helping too much lol
[23:53] <ikonia> Shpoo1: create a follder in the ftp root
[23:53] <Slart> Shpoo1: ah.. you want to mount a remote ftp-dir in a folder on your desktop?.. that sounds neat
[23:53] <helluvaCSMajor> how do i set my mouse middle button (scroll wheel/button) to turn on a scroll lock type feature, like in Windows?
[23:53] <lgc> ikonia, I'm afraid it's not that simple. I cloned the package list of a single-processor machine in an SMP one, and I lost the SMP kernel.
[23:53] <akorn> anybody here know how to set up a wireless signal for other computers to connect to yours (my laptop has a wireless card)
[23:53] <BB88> erUSUL: Ok, again thank you.
[23:53] <etfb> Jack_Sparrow: thanks for the welcome.  This looks addictive!  I really should get back to work though...
[23:53] <r4wMUnt34q> hey guys
[23:54] <ikonia> lgc: what do you mean "cloned the package list"
[23:54] <erUSUL> Shpoo1: Places>Connect to server
[23:54] <r4wMUnt34q> i have one question about disk partitioning
[23:54] <erUSUL> BB88: no problem
[23:54] <Shpoo1> exactly....I'm a novice JS programmer, and it's annoying to constantly have to upload files
[23:54] <zenrox> i need some one with ubuntus git experance to help me
[23:54] <lgc> ikonia, cloned the install.
[23:54] <r4wMUnt34q> I have a win 2000 already
[23:54] <ikonia> lgc: do a "uname -a" on your machine tell me what you see
[23:54] <zenrox> i have major questions
[23:55] <erUSUL> lgc: newer ubuntus doesn't have a separate smp kernel they have a generic one that is smp capable
[23:55] <lgc> ikonia, Linux sirius 2.6.22-14-386 #1 Sun Oct 14 22:36:54 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux.
[23:55] <r4wMUnt34q> CAN ANYONE HELP ME ? :)
[23:55] <erUSUL> !clone > ikonia
[23:55] <nickrud> !ask | r4wMUnt34q
[23:55] <ubotu> r4wMUnt34q: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[23:55] <neverblue> Shpoo1, you want a desktop icon to link to your FTP
[23:55] <helluvaCSMajor> how do i set my mouse middle button (scroll wheel/button) to turn on a scroll lock type feature, like in Windows?
[23:55] <ikonia> lgc: what release is that, there shouldn't be a 2.6.22 kernel thats not smp
[23:55] <soldats> PasteL, i think the only way to get it to use wine with the windows version of firefox and install the showckwave player
[23:55] <erUSUL> lgc: so you have to use the -generic kernel not the i386 one. Install it from synaptic
[23:55] <Slart> is there such a thing as ftpmount?.. would be nice
[23:56] <lgc> ikonia, that's the point, exactly...
[23:56] <r4wMUnt34q> ok so I will write it all not in parts so you dont have to find information all over the chat
[23:56] <ikonia> lgc: but 2.6.22 is gutsy, and there isn't a non-smp kernel availble in gutsy
[23:56] <balphegor> hola
[23:56] <lgc> erUSUL, let me check that...
[23:56] <lgc> ikonia, so what do you think?
[23:57] <nickrud> ikonia, the -i386 is not smp
[23:57] <balphegor> alguien sabe como ver el admistrador de programas de ubuntu?
[23:57] <erUSUL> lgc: install the generic kernel the i386 is aviable for old machines but it is not the default one
[23:57] <Slart> !es | balphegor
[23:57] <ubotu> balphegor: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[23:57] <ikonia> nickrud: yes, I appriciate that, but the default kernel is smp
[23:57] <Shpoo1> erUSUL: crap that easy, thanks
[23:57] <Gatestone> thx luke_, I think it was the flash plugin, i just removed the link from /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[23:57] <ikonia> nickrud: so the smp kernel should be installed
[23:57] <balphegor> gracias ubotu
[23:57] <Shpoo1> neverblue: actually, it created one :-)
[23:57] <neverblue> 'it' I see
[23:57] <nickrud> ikonia, and I stand corrected, aptitude search doesn't show the i386 in gutsy
[23:58]  * loke_ will return shortly
[23:58] <PasteL> soldats: sux, thanks guy
[23:58] <Shpoo1> neverblue: haha sorry, erUSUL's suggestion created a link on the desktop
[23:58] <ikonia> nickrud: just done a search the gutsy repo's and there is no i386 kernel in the repo
[23:58] <Slart> Shpoo1: you just used the "connect" menu thing?
[23:58] <nickrud> Shpoo1, the only problem with that folder is only gnome vfs aware apps will see it; for example, emacs won't
[23:59] <nickrud> ikonia, see above :)
[23:59] <neverblue> :)
[23:59] <Shpoo1> Slart: yes
[23:59] <Lekky> hi guys, i've just installed ubuntu on my 2nd HD, with xp on the 1st. However i dont get the "dual boot" option on startup, can anyone point me in the direction of an answer?
[23:59] <erUSUL> Shpoo1: no problem ;)
[23:59] <Slart> Shpoo1: sweet.. got to remember that
[23:59] <Shpoo1> nickrud: so if emacs won't, then bluefish won't either then, huh?
[23:59] <ikonia> nickrud: which comment, sorry I may have missed your post
[23:59] <nickrud> Shpoo1, bluefish does, iirc
[23:59] <Shpoo1> nickrud: perfect :-)
[23:59] <nickrud> ikonia, the one where I mentioned that aptitude search didn't find it :)