[00:39] <MeXTuX> I'm starting with Xubuntu and want to customize a little my desktop. How can I make a backup??? so if I screw it up I'll can restore to its original state
[00:45] <Marzata> just copy your file to some other location
[00:49] <MeXTuX> What's the file name and where is it located??
[00:50] <Marzata> all files in your home folder
[00:55] <Marzata> other idea would be to create just another user
[00:57] <holstein> or experiment on the live CD
[01:01] <MeXTuX> backup ~/.config/xfce4 ???
[01:01] <holstein> backup the whole thing
[01:01] <holstein> all of ~/you
[01:27] <dajhorn> My window borders are one pixel, which makes them difficult to resize.  How do I change the window border thickness in xfce4?
[01:28] <GridCube> change the theme you are using dajhorn
[01:29] <dajhorn> GridCube:   I tried to do that after doing a Google search.   All of the default Xubuntu themes are the same.
[01:30] <GridCube> in fact they are not
[01:30] <dajhorn> GridCube: I want to use Xubuntu in a HTPC.  How do I get 5 or 10 pixel borders?
[01:30] <GridCube> http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/capturadepantalla-030312-223023.php
[01:31] <GridCube> this one its like 5px wide
[01:32] <GridCube> its not that pretty tho, tyrex its nice and has a wide border too
[01:34] <dajhorn> Bummer.  Xfce4 can't change the border thickness except through a theme change.
[01:34] <GridCube> you might be able to manually edit the theme
[01:35] <GridCube> some of the other themes are nice tho
[02:12] <anachoret> for 12.04 beta 1 known issues, how is nm-connection-manager run?
[02:27] <Cyndar> is anyone around that might be able to give me some advice? it's in regards to forcing a wine window to use 16 bit color depth. after checking the man pages i can't find a setting for it. i've also tried switching X to use 16bpp by default but i can't find xorg.conf in the usual places i'd go to edit it.
[02:28] <Cyndar> using xbuntu 11.10 and wine 1.3
[02:43] <holstein> anachoret: i would check #ubuntu+1
[02:44] <holstein> Cyndar: whats the issue?.. i wouldnt think that would be something you should need to bother with.. i would refer to the application page at wineHQ *if* there is one
[02:45] <Cyndar> holstein: it's a certain game that can only run in 16bpp
[02:46] <GridCube> Cyndar, you should check on #wine
[02:47] <Cyndar> GridCube: it's invite only at the moment
[02:47] <GridCube> no its not
[02:47] <Cyndar> Cannot join #wine (Channel is invite only).
[02:47] <anachoret> holstein: thanks
[02:48] <GridCube> oh, yes, sorry my mistake Cyndar, its #winehq
[02:48] <Cyndar> ah, got it, thanks
[02:50] <Paschalis89> is there any tutorial how to install java on xubuntu?
[02:52] <anachoret> Paschalis89: other than OpenJDK?
[02:53] <Cyndar> Paschalis89: i'd imagine the easiest way would be to open the ubuntu software center and search for jave
[02:53] <Cyndar> *java
[02:53] <Paschalis89> yes.. dont want the openJDK
[02:55] <anachoret> oracle has self-extractors and rpms
[02:59] <Paschalis89> found a tutorial, with 3 commands and it seems to work..
[03:01] <Paschalis89> thank you anyways!
[03:02] <anachoret> what requires distribution other than openjdk?
[03:06] <Paschalis89> got some problems with openJdk..
[03:06] <Paschalis89> android and such..
[03:06] <Paschalis89> brb
[03:08] <92AAAE1A4> Hm. Admittedly I haven't had any problems, but I haven't really *used* it much either. I'm curious what the particular problems are.
[03:39] <ztag100> Is there a way to update xubuntu to the new beta? or do I need to do a clean install?
[03:40] <holstein> ztag100: i would check in #ubuntu+1 ... i mean, you *can* do what you like.. should you is the question
[03:42] <ztag100> thanks
[05:54] <Ironholds> ahoy. Anyone available for a quick spot of wifi-related tech support?
[07:01] <drounse> hi
[07:04] <well_laid_lawn> !hi
[11:28] <mattyh88> hi, where can i find xubuntu for i686 pls? i'm looking at the downloads page but there only intel or amd (x64?)
[11:32] <baizon> mattyh88: http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/oneiric/release/desktop/xubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso
[12:05] <mattyh88> baizon: i386, isn't that intel?
[12:05] <baizon> its for x86 cps
[12:06] <baizon> intel and amd
[12:06] <baizon> working for both
[12:06] <mattyh88> ahh okay :)
[12:06] <mattyh88> tx
[12:06] <Sysi> like amd64 works for both intel and amd
[12:06] <baizon> yes
[12:16] <xubuntu403> hola
[12:17] <xubuntu403> hablan español?
[12:17] <Sysi> !es
[12:25] <xubuntu403> estoy instalando xubuntu usando wubi, lleva un buen rato con la pantalla como de bienvenida, arriva pone instalando, o instalacion, pero no aparece barrita de que esté instalando nada y lleva asi un buen rato
[12:26] <knome> xubuntu403, english only please
[12:53] <gagan662> helo
[12:53] <gagan662> ?
[12:55] <gagan662> .
[12:57] <baizon> !ask | gagan662
[13:05] <Qantouri1c> Is there a way to run the installer in vesa ?
[13:07] <gagan6621> help!! jst few days ago installed xubuntu.its working fine but ...
[13:08] <gagan6621> show around 40% cpu when you interact with window(scroll & move)
[13:08] <gagan6621> same with any window
[13:09] <gagan6621> rest of things are fine
[13:09] <knome> Qantouri1c, try the alternative image
[13:09] <knome> gagan6621, have you tried to disable compositing?
[13:09] <gagan6621> yep i m using alternative.....
[13:09] <knome> gagan6621, that wasn't for you ;)
[13:10] <gagan6621> ;)
[13:10] <Sysi> Qantouri1c: there's xforcevesa boot option
[13:11] <Sysi> gagan6621: what graphics card? lspci | grep VGA
[13:11] <gagan6621> knome <- need some help .:)
[13:11] <gagan6621> ati
[13:11] <gagan6621> mobility radeon hd 5xxx
[13:12] <gagan6621> ATI Technologies Inc Manhattan [Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series]
[13:13] <gagan6621> :-/
[13:14] <gagan6621> ..
[13:16] <gagan6621> Sysi <- there?
[13:18] <knome> gagan6621, please be patient, we're all volunteers
[13:18] <Qantouri1c> Sysi: kernel boot option i presume ?
[13:18] <gagan662> :)
[13:19] <Sysi> Qantouri1c: yup
[13:20] <Sysi> gagan662: settings -> Additional drivers, does it suggest anything?
[13:20] <Qantouri1c> knome: won't help i'm arraid, it's memory of the gpu witch is fried (again)
[13:21] <gagan662> yep
[13:21] <gagan662> Sysi: fglrx and fglrx post update
[13:22] <gagan662> Sysi: i tried fglrx but other one produce error while installing.
[13:23] <Sysi> if fglrx installed succesfully, reboot and see if you still have that problem
[13:23] <gagan662> Sysi:With no results i then tried to installed from ati website but no results
[13:24] <Sysi> and it was same before installing any additional drivers?
[13:24] <knome> Qantouri1c, alternative? even if it uses the text-based installer?
[13:24] <gagan662> yep
[13:24] <gagan662> Sysi:yes
[13:25] <Qantouri1c> knome: a like that :)
[13:25] <knome> Qantouri1c, ?
[13:26] <Qantouri1c> knome: text-bases would also solve it yes
[13:26] <knome> Qantouri1c, yes, then as i said, try the alternative image
[15:15] <david_j_r> just tried running Xubuntu beta live from USB - cannot get network manager to run!
[15:16] <david_j_r> Tried to run "nm-connection-manager" as noted on download page, and got "not found" error - any help on this?
[15:17] <GridCube> nm-connection-editor
[15:17] <GridCube> not manage
[15:17] <GridCube> r
[15:17] <david_j_r> Ah - thank you! Someone should change instructions here then:
[15:18] <david_j_r> http://xubuntu.org/news/precisebeta1/
[15:18] <GridCube> in any case david_j_r  using tab to autocomplete the name on the terminal would have teached you that :P
[15:20] <david_j_r> Except I did "nm*" and got nothing
[15:20] <david_j_r> Also, just launched "nm-connection-editor" and got three GTK-warning/error messages
[15:20] <GridCube> mmm, you wrote nm, then press tab twice, and got nothing?
[15:20] <david_j_r> and no network manager in the systray :(
[15:21] <GridCube> yeah, thats a bug
[15:21] <kvarley> How can I change/remove the "Web Browser" and "Mail Reader" entries in the menu?
[15:21] <david_j_r> GridCube: no, but just tried nm<tab><tab> and get 9 returns
[15:21] <david_j_r> sorry - 8 ;)
[15:22] <david_j_r> including nm-connection-editor
[15:22] <david_j_r> "nm-applet" appears in Task Manager, but I cannot see it anywhere.
[15:22] <GridCube> kvarley, you could try using alacarte, don't know if it does what you need, remember to install alacarte with the --no-install-recommnds flag, because else it would pull half unity/gnome aswell
[15:23] <david_j_r> If I open Network Connection from Menu > Settings, I get that - but no way to actually initiate connection.
[15:23] <david_j_r> GridCube: so how do I start wireless during live session?
[15:24] <GridCube> david_j_r, its a known bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-default-settings/+bug/942573
[15:24] <GridCube> david_j_r, in this beta1 state it seems you can't, i wont bother too much and report as much as i can to the bug tracker, im sure it will be fixed soon
[15:24] <david_j_r> Right - at the bug report. Is there a workaround?
[15:25] <david_j_r> OK - a wee shame though!
[15:25] <david_j_r> Thanks for letting me know.
[15:25] <GridCube> dan64, read post 10 on the bug report
[15:26] <GridCube> sorry, dan64, i meant david_j_r
[15:26] <aranea> I have a small problem with XFCE's terminal: The setting 'Advanced/Compatibility/Backspace key' generates is set to 'Auto-detect'. Now, when I use screen inside such a terminal, non-readline programs (e.g mail) don't recognise the use of the backspace key, but print Ctrl+H instead. Surely, that's no problem, I'm just interested if it leads to other problems if I modify this setting.
[15:26] <david_j_r> GridCube: thanks - just read #10 ... But see also #13!
[15:27] <GridCube> oh
[15:27] <GridCube> well, report, report, report
[15:27] <david_j_r> Right - *U*buntu beta - not Xubuntu beta.
[15:27] <david_j_r> Sorry - reading too quickly here!
[15:27] <kvarley> GridCube: Thanks
[15:28] <david_j_r> Will hope to see it fixed soon - is there a nightly I can grab?
[15:29] <GridCube> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ david_j_r  the daily
[15:29] <GridCube> david_j_r, at the bottom theres the xubuntu daily tests for the day, and links to them
[15:31] <GridCube> if you do install it please consider reporting to the tracker
[15:33] <david_j_r> GridCube: Just put this record of my experience on Bug Tracker:
[15:33] <david_j_r> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-default-settings/+bug/942573/comments/14
[15:33] <david_j_r> Hope that helps!
[15:35] <david_j_r> Quite disappointing really, but hopefully will be able to trial fixed version soon.
[15:35] <david_j_r> GridCube - your help is appreciated! That's me away now.
[15:38] <hobgoblin> that should be fixed
[15:38] <hobgoblin> at least it is here
[16:24] <titi> OMG
[16:24] <knome> ?
[16:55] <Lartza> Having some GPU problems with old Fujitsu Siemens Amilo laptop
[16:56] <Lartza> The image is on the upper left corner little over one fourth of the screen and dmesg shoes that it has detected render errors and the GPU hangs at some point
[16:56] <Lartza> It seems to be using i915
[16:58] <Lartza> Though it "works" fine X starts and everything its just not working properly :)
[17:15] <alexandru4392> hello
[17:15] <alexandru4392> installing xubuntu
[17:16] <baizon> good to hear :)
[17:17] <baizon> !hello | alexandru4392
[17:17] <alexandru4392> man,it's super fast
[17:17] <alexandru4392> opening things is a breeze
[17:17] <alexandru4392> i got xubuntu because i hate gnome 3
[17:19] <baizon> yep
[17:19] <baizon> good alternative to gnome3 / unity :)
[17:21] <jackotheshadow> Hey, this is really my first time using linux. I'm running off a bootable flash drive a friend gave me, cuz I have a virus on this computer, but I don't know how to install anything...
[17:21] <baizon> jackotheshadow: use software center
[17:21] <jackotheshadow> So, I've downloaded Avast as a .rpm, but when I double click on it, it opens with archive manager and doesn't seem to actually install anythign
[17:22] <jackotheshadow> where/what is software center/
[17:23] <baizon> why do you download avast
[17:23] <baizon> ubuntu doesnt use rpm
[17:23] <baizon> only deb
[17:24] <jackotheshadow> oh... I saw somewhere that there's three filetypes linux uses. I didn't know there was a difference
[17:24] <baizon> jackotheshadow: http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2010/05/10/xubuntu-linux-10-04/softwarecenter-2/
[17:25] <baizon> thats the software center
[17:25] <baizon> you can there easily install software
[17:34] <jackotheshadow> So, I downloaded the .deb for Avast, and opened it with Software Center, but I'm getting the error "wrong architecture 'i386'". I've browsed around some, and seem to be getting that with everything I try to install with software center.
[17:35] <jackotheshadow> i don't know how to get around this
[17:35] <jackotheshadow> any ideas?
[17:40] <GridCube> jackotheshadow, you are usng a deb for amd64 on an i386 install, it wont work
[18:01] <w30> Why does libreoffice open up when I close Firefox? Can it be fixed so it don't?
[18:04] <GridCube> ?
[18:04] <GridCube> ive never heard that one
[18:05] <freenetwork> Hello
[18:05] <GridCube> hello
[18:06] <freenetwork> i'm install xubuntu 11.10. I miss plagin keyboard switcher. Him not add panel.
[18:06] <freenetwork> sorry english
[18:09] <GridCube> freenetwork, no the plugin its not on the panel, you can add it easily to the panel as a new element
[18:09] <freenetwork> not add panel
[18:10] <freenetwork> He is not there,
[18:12] <xubuntu902> ciao
[18:12] <GridCube> freenetwork, left clic on an empty space of the panel, go to the last option >panel and then to the big green + icon that says "add element" and among the ekements theres a keyboard one
[18:13] <xubuntu902> italiano ?
[18:13] <GridCube> !it
[18:13] <GridCube> sorry xubuntu902 :(
[18:14] <freenetwork> ok, he is not there in add panel.
[18:16] <GridCube> mmm probably i got it with xfce4-goodies
[18:16] <GridCube> yes, i got it with xfce4-goodies
[18:17] <GridCube> you can get it by using >sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xfce4-goodies
[18:17] <freenetwork> yes. i'm do it
[18:23] <freenetwork> best guide!) it's work!
[18:23] <GridCube> :D awesome
[18:23] <freenetwork> :D
[18:25] <GridCube> o/ highfive
[19:22] <darkurza> i have a question. i recently just installed xubuntu on my comp
[19:22] <darkurza> it came with firefox
[19:22] <darkurza> half the videos on youtube i cant watch because flash is not installed but it is by default
[19:23] <darkurza> anyone experience that before
[19:24] <magerquark> try:  Nokia 6
[19:24] <pleia2> darkurza: your comment is a bit confusing, is flash installed or not?
[19:25] <darkurza> it is
[19:25] <darkurza> well it was installed by default
[19:25] <darkurza> but youtube didnt pick it up so i installed it again
[19:25] <darkurza> thats when it told me that it's already installed
[19:25] <magerquark> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:25] <darkurza> i ddi it anyways
[19:25] <magerquark> did you install the restricted extras?
[19:25] <darkurza> no
[19:26] <darkurza> but am doing it now
[19:26] <darkurza> ive been having other pressing issues
[19:26] <darkurza> like the fact that my EEE PC is too new and there are no drivers for this yet
[19:26] <darkurza> so im stuck with 800x600 on a 1024x600 native
[19:26] <darkurza> i also live in a uni residence so my internet didnt work while i had no OS on my comp
[19:28] <darkurza> i see this windows lookalike in my terminal
[19:28] <darkurza> cant proceed
[19:28] <darkurza> it's to install the tff font or something
[19:28] <magerquark> you can also use the ubuntu software center
[19:29] <magerquark> search for "ubuntu restricted extras"
[19:29] <darkurza> lemme try
[19:31] <darkurza> another problem that seems like a noob problem
[19:31] <darkurza> shockwave flash came with it
[19:32] <darkurza> when i have it on, my youtube videos lag like mad
[19:32] <darkurza> but when i take it off, it's fine although at the beginning of the videos, it tells me it cant detect a flash plugin
[19:32] <darkurza> it plays the video nonetheless
[19:35] <darkurza> same problem
[19:35] <darkurza> i clicked install xubuntu restricted extras
[19:36] <darkurza> the flash box has no check mark
[19:36] <darkurza> so i check it
[19:36] <darkurza> install it
[19:36] <darkurza> now when i try watching videos, it still says i need flash 9.0 or higher?
[19:36] <magerquark> strange
[19:36] <darkurza> so i try installing from the flash website but that doesn't work either
[19:37] <darkurza> software center wont let me install the xubuntu restricted extras now
[19:37] <darkurza> thats why the installation went fast
[19:38] <magerquark> do you have a standard xubuntu installation?
[19:38] <darkurza> yes
[19:39] <magerquark> strange#
[19:39] <darkurza> im getting sick of ubuntu
[19:39] <darkurza> the more shit they upgrade every six months, the more bugs there are and the less time they have to really focus on fixing things
[19:40] <magerquark> darkurza, perhaps you should use the LTS-versions
[19:40] <darkurza> i did that on my old laptop
[19:40] <darkurza> worked fine for a while
[19:41] <darkurza> ill brb
[19:41] <GridCube> darkurza, you use firefox?
[19:41] <darkurza> cant start up synaptic
[19:41] <darkurza> yeah
[19:42] <darkurza> why
[19:42] <GridCube> install flash-aid plugin
[19:42] <darkurza> aid or add?
[19:42] <GridCube> aid
[19:42] <darkurza> ok
[19:43] <darkurza> is that the package name?
[19:44] <darkurza> im restarting my comp brb
[19:47] <darkurza> just restarted but now my synaptic wont start up...
[19:53] <well_laid_lawn> darkurza: any errors?
[19:53] <darkurza> yeah
[19:53] <darkurza> but i fixed it
[19:53] <darkurza> now i can install packages
[19:54] <darkurza> what i dont understand is why ubuntu restricted extras will throw a windows console lookalike screen at me with no way of proceeding or going back
[19:55] <darkurza> ok so i installed the restricted extras
[19:55] <darkurza> still says i need a flash player 9.0 or higher
[19:57] <GridCube> darkurza, on firefox, go to the about:addons page, and search for flash-aid addon
[19:59] <darkurza> ok running the wizard
[20:01] <darkurza> youtube still says i need to install a flash player
[20:01] <darkurza> and when i try to, it says failed
[20:01] <darkurza> no errors
[20:02] <GridCube> thats weird darkurza you are having some other problem somewhere
[20:02] <darkurza> ok now it works
[20:02] <darkurza> i used the aid plugin to just download a stable release
[20:03] <GridCube> thats the best one
[20:03] <darkurza> technology has been pissing me off for the past 2 weeks
[20:03] <GridCube> the other breaks to often for my taste
[20:03] <darkurza> my comp broke 2 weeks ago
[20:03] <darkurza> during exam period
[20:03] <GridCube> :(
[20:03] <darkurza> so i waited 11 days before i bought a new one
[20:03] <darkurza> once i buy one, i find out that there are no drivers yet
[20:03] <darkurza> my internet wasnät working
[20:03] <darkurza> and i had a netbook with no OS
[20:04] <GridCube> ja
[20:04] <darkurza> oh thank god i can watch wipeout online now
[20:04] <darkurza> thanks for your help gridcube
[20:04] <darkurza> bist du vielleicht deutscher?
[20:04] <GridCube> nope, im a spañish speaker myself
[20:04] <darkurza> oh
[20:05] <darkurza> u understood that lol
[20:05] <GridCube> that was pretty obvious on context :P
[20:05] <darkurza> oh lol
[20:05] <darkurza> i only thought that because you wrote JA
[20:06] <GridCube> it was an interjection of laughter
[20:06] <GridCube> :P
[20:10] <darkurza> oh right
[20:10] <darkurza> j is like an english H sound
[20:10] <darkurza> ok
[20:10] <darkurza> i see so many people writing jajajajaja
[20:10] <darkurza> im thinking in my head 'yes yes yes yes yes'
[20:11] <darkurza> but really it's like JAJAJAJAJA
[20:11] <GridCube> XD yes indeed
[20:11] <darkurza> i wanted to learn spanish for next semester but my other language courses conflict with it
[20:11] <darkurza> which kinda sucks
[20:11] <GridCube> btw darkurza this is more for #xubuntu-offtopic if you don't mind to go there :)
[20:14] <darkurza> lol ok
[20:14] <darkurza> well i wanst really gonna continue
[20:14] <darkurza> anyways thanks for your help
[20:15] <GridCube> np
[20:31] <bigshum> hola
[20:32] <GridCube> hola bigshum, este canal es en ingles, para ayuda en español entra a #ubuntu-es
[20:32] <GridCube> :D
[20:32] <bigshum> yo soy Ingles :D
[20:32] <bigshum> I just like to confuse everyone
[20:32] <GridCube> :P oh okay
[20:33] <bigshum> your concern is duly noted though, you gain points ;)
[20:34] <bigshum> I'm, er, having an issue with a powerpc xubuntu install on a G3 iMac
[20:34] <bigshum> booted off the minimal cd
[20:34] <bigshum> it's saying 'no disk drive was detected. If you know the name of the driver….' etc etc
[20:35] <bigshum> is it referring to my optical drive or my hdd?
[20:35] <bigshum> or is there an installation channel I should ask in?
[20:43] <GridCube> bigshum, this is the place to ask, but i dont know the answer you should wait for someone smarter to come
[20:43] <bigshum> ha ha cool
[20:44] <bigshum> have asked in the ubuntu room too
[20:44] <GridCube> also google your error exactly
[20:44] <bigshum> gathering from their conversation they seem to be quite smart
[20:44] <bigshum> yea my google-fu is failing me
[20:47] <bigshum> i gather it's the hdd
[20:47] <bigshum> but i did a debian install on it earlier so it should be ok..
[20:55] <ChristopherNg> hello does anyone know how i can do a sitemap/sitesearch via the command line? are there any apps that can do it?
[20:57] <GridCube> a search?
[20:57] <c3l> ChristopherNg: what do you mean by sitesearch?
[21:10] <ChristopherNg> c3l: basically im trying to find the email addresses of people who have<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[21:11] <ChristopherNg> im trying to see if there is a tool that will find all email addresses for that website and give me a list
[21:11] <TheSheep> ChristopherNg: that is not possible
[21:11] <ChristopherNg> there must be some way
[21:12] <TheSheep> ChristopherNg: even the mail servers are configured in such a way as to not hint if the addres is correct
[21:12] <TheSheep> s/if/whether
[21:12] <TheSheep> that is because the spammers were using that to collect lists of addresses to spam
[23:07] <nmittal> where is the disk utility tool on xubuntu.. ?
[23:13] <GridCube> disk utility? like gparted? nmittal ?
[23:14] <GridCube> if its that you need to install it, its on the livecd but not on the final desktop
[23:16] <nmittal> not gparted.. in the regular install of Ubuntu there is "Disk Utility"
[23:17] <nmittal> GridCube, i have already installed XUbuntu and am not trying to setup RAID.. can i not do it on? do I have to do it during install?
[23:17] <GridCube> i don't know what that means
[23:17] <nmittal> never mind.. do you know about the RAID?
[23:17] <GridCube> nmittal, sorry :/ i don't understand your problem
[23:18] <GridCube> i've heard of it but never setted it up
[23:18] <GridCube> !raid
[23:18] <nmittal> ok thanks
[23:29] <chelz> disk utility is a lightweight tool that show disk usage and i think lets you format partitions and not really anything else
[23:29] <nmittal> chelz, yeah.. i am trying to setup raid after installing xubuntu.. is it possible or do I have to reinstall
[23:30] <GridCube> nmittal, install gparted
[23:30] <nmittal> GridCube, i just did.. no option to setup RAID
[23:31] <GridCube> doesnt the links ubottu posted tell you how to?
[23:31] <nmittal> GridCube, they are dated..
[23:32] <chelz> fyi Disk Utility is aka Palimpsest Disk Utility. package is gnome-disk-utility and it depends on gnome
[23:32] <chelz> or at least libgtk2.0-0
[23:32] <nmittal> GridCube, i was hoping there would be a GUI based tool.. i dont want to mess up with a command line way
[23:33] <chelz> nmittal: things are best done in the terminal sometimes
[23:33] <nmittal> chelz, i was afraid you woudl say that :!
[23:34] <GridCube> nmittal, i bet you might get better help at #ubuntu-server
[23:35] <nmittal> ok worth a try .. thanks


[02:21] <nhasian> hello people
[02:22] <Ursinha> hi nhasian
[02:22] <nhasian> i dont see any info on help.launchpad.net or anywhere else about how to remove or cancel a launchpad account
[02:23] <Ursinha> nhasian, you can deactivate your account
[02:23] <nhasian> dont deactivate mine :)  I just need to see how to do it to answer someone's question
[02:23] <Ursinha> oh, right :)
[02:24] <Ursinha> I'll search on the docs, if didn't find, will ask right people to create that :)
[02:24] <Ursinha> but you can go to the profile, then Change details, then at the bottom there is:
[02:24] <nhasian> oh i found it in the faq too
[02:24] <nhasian> sorry to trouble you
[02:24] <Ursinha> Never going to use Launchpad again? Deactivate your account.
[02:24] <Ursinha> nhasian, no problem! :)
[02:27] <nhasian> i've spent a lot of time in answers.launchpad helping out but now i'm trying to learn bug triaging.  a lot of info to absorb and my head is spinning
[02:29] <Ursinha> nhasian, know how that feels :)
[03:21] <lifeless> ETOOMANYNICKSSTARTWITHSP
[03:21] <lifeless> spm: you know, if you say 'lowsars' it gives some inspiration for a better mugshot
[03:21] <spm> lifeless: you'll keep. :-)
[03:22] <lifeless> spm: I was thinking neanderthal
[03:22] <lifeless> with glasses
[03:22] <lifeless> or something
[03:23] <spm> sounds like a farside cartoon....
[03:24] <Ursinha> lifeless, lol
[03:24] <spm> not to be a staff member from pedantical, but isn't it neandertal? the 'h' being a perversion? could be wrong.
[03:24] <lifeless> spm: far be it from me to get between you and perversion :)
[03:24] <spm> damn. 2/0. I'm not doing well this week.
[03:25] <mwhudson> you and your preversions
[03:29] <lifeless> spm: and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neanderthal
[03:30] <spm> lifeless: yeah - I vaguely recall NatGeo quite a few years ago did an issue on Neanderthal's and got worked up over the whole 'h' thing.
[03:31] <lifeless> the valley is 'Neandertal'
[03:32] <lifeless> these days hmm :)
[03:32] <lifeless> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neanderthal#Etymology_and_classification
[03:32] <lifeless> read that paragraph specifficaly
[03:32] <lifeless> bah spellink
[03:36] <spm> I should re-dig up that natgeo. be interesting to cros compare with the section.
[04:16] <xnox> Can anyone please explain this ppa reject error Unhandled exception processing upload: 'ascii' codec can't encode characters in position 67-73: ordinal not in range(128)
[04:16] <xnox> Cause I don't understand where/what should I fix
[04:21] <Ursinha> xnox, your display name on lp contains non-ascii chars?
[04:27] <xnox> Ursinha: Yeap
[04:27] <Ursinha> xnox, that's the problem
[04:27] <Ursinha> it's a known bug
[04:27] <Ursinha> have to find the number
[04:28] <xnox> Ursinha: And 51 previous successful builds did not have a problem with that...............
[04:28] <Ursinha> xnox, oh, so I have no idea
[04:29]  * xnox wonders how cool is it to be the Universe to send randoms bugs to us earthings
[04:29] <Ursinha> you did nothing different?
[04:29] <xnox> Ursinha: nope
[04:29] <xnox> Ursinha: I'll bump the version number and I'll see what happens
[04:29] <Ursinha> xnox, right
[04:29] <Ursinha> you can also file a bug about it
[04:30] <Ursinha> we'll be happy to help
[04:30] <spm> said bug, the unsleeping Ursinha will be only too happy to QA ;-)
[04:30] <xnox> all of you are really great and helpful =D!
[04:30] <Ursinha> spm, :P
[04:30] <Ursinha> xnox, we try :)
[04:31] <xnox> Oh yeah and the Ubuntu Developers Week was *awesome*
[04:31] <Ursinha> xnox, indeed
[04:32] <xnox> I'm still curious about UDS. There were a few major sessions (which were planned across all channels)
[04:32] <xnox> but there are no logs, no notes, no videos from those =(
[04:32] <xnox> Like Python 3000 QA, Launchpad 3 and so on and so forth
[04:59] <xnox> Ursinha: I've bumped version number and it got accepted just fine
[05:00] <Ursinha> xnox, this is weird
[05:00] <xnox> but that non acsii bug is quite scary
[05:00] <xnox> Cause for me personally it is a pleasure that launchpad.net supports my name the way I want it to be written and read
[05:27] <duffyd> jamesh: ping
[05:27] <jamesh> duffyd: pong.
[05:28] <duffyd> jamesh: hi, my name is tim and I just flicked you an email re. pygpgme
[05:28]  * jamesh goes to look
[05:28] <duffyd> jamesh: I've studied the tests and implemented (as per my email) as much of the code as I can workout but getting that error :(
[05:28] <duffyd> ta
[05:30] <duffyd> jamesh: I encrypted the test file with gpg and using (presumably) the priv key for that user
[05:30] <jamesh> duffyd: what are you passing in as the first argument to decrypt?
[05:31] <duffyd> from memory its the UID for the user
[05:31] <duffyd> I'll need to check again
[05:31] <duffyd> I set that part up yesterday
[05:31] <duffyd> and brain is a bit fried
[05:31] <jamesh> should be a file-like object
[05:31] <duffyd> oh really
[05:31] <duffyd> oh yes it is
[05:31] <duffyd> doh
[05:31] <duffyd> thought you were talking about the 'get_key' method ;)
[05:32] <duffyd> as per the email, data is a file object gotten by opening a pgp-encrypted xml-rpc file
[05:33] <duffyd> jamesh: actually I better confirm that
[05:33] <duffyd> as I chuck them into a list
[05:33] <duffyd> I think it isn't a file obj
[05:34] <jamesh> as long as it supports a read(n_bytes) method, it should be fine
[05:35] <duffyd> got it
[05:35] <duffyd> actually its not erroring now!!!
[05:36] <duffyd> mmm but the decrypted data is empty
[05:36]  * duffyd goes off to work it out
[05:39] <duffyd> jamesh: I created the file via: gpg -u 'UserName<EMAIL_ADDRESS>-e -r E5235B12EAEF7FC2F70060B952044E4F4C2EA925 filename.xml
[05:39] <duffyd> jamesh: I hope that's the right way. I'm a gpg/pgp n00b :(
[05:44] <jamesh> duffyd: you might want to try sprinkling a few printf()'s in src/pygpgme-data.c to try and track the problem down
[05:44] <jamesh> that's about all I can think to suggest at present.
[05:44] <duffyd> jamesh: ok
[05:44]  * duffyd scared of C :)
[05:44] <duffyd> thanks
[05:48] <duffyd> jamesh: any hope of a 0.2 or higher release of pygpgme at some stage?
[05:48] <duffyd> I've just manually checked out pygpgme from trunk and changed it to be 0.2 in the meantime
[05:49] <jamesh> it'd be worth making another release at some point, yeah.
[05:49] <duffyd> cool
[05:52] <duffyd> jamesh: hey it did decrypt it!
[05:52] <duffyd> yay :)
[05:52] <jamesh> duffyd: what did you have to change?
[05:52] <duffyd> well I needed to actually pass file objs into it
[05:53] <jamesh> that was the first thing I asked about :)
[05:53] <duffyd> and then I just needed to do a ".seek(0)" on the returned StringIO obj and a 'read()'
[05:53] <duffyd> jamesh: yeah I know I changed it as soon as you said
[05:53] <duffyd> jamesh: that was what helped :)
[05:54] <jamesh> doing getvalue() on the output StringIO is probably a bit clearer than seek/read
[05:54] <duffyd> now I'm just getting all the '\n' characters being escaped
[05:54] <duffyd> ugh
[05:54] <duffyd> I had this happen last time and had to use 'codecs.open' which fixed it
[05:54] <duffyd> but now with a StringIO dunno an easy way to fix it :(
[05:54] <duffyd> why me ;)
[05:54] <duffyd> jamesh: nice
[05:55] <jamesh> well PGP works with byte streams, so it is up to you to encode the data you encrypt and decode the data you decrypt
[05:56] <duffyd> jamesh: k, that might be part of it
[05:56] <duffyd> if I just open it as a binary?
[05:56] <duffyd> but I've tried this and it didn't work either
[06:07] <jamesh> duffyd: there is no substantial difference between text and binary mode on unix systems with Python 2.x
[06:07] <duffyd> jamesh: yeah true
[06:08] <duffyd> jamesh: recall that now. And since < Mac OSX 9
[06:08] <jamesh> duffyd: you might want to try decrypting the data manually with gpg to see whether it matches what you're seeing in Python
[06:08] <jamesh> i.e. your problem might be on the encryption side.
[06:08] <duffyd> this seems to work: decryptedData.decode("string_escape")
[06:08] <duffyd> jamesh: thanks again!
[06:09] <jamesh> if you need that, I'd check your encrypt side.
[06:10] <duffyd> jamesh: I won't have much control over that as we're getting the files sent to us from an external party
[06:10] <duffyd> I'll just need to wait and see
[06:10] <jamesh> duffyd: that's why I suggested trying to decrypt manually.  You should get the same data as was encrypted.
[06:11] <duffyd> jamesh: yeah I have done that already and it works fine
[06:11] <duffyd> did that long before I started coding
[06:11] <duffyd> jamesh: seems to decode fine now - so thanks for your help
[06:12] <duffyd> I'll need to wait until the actual data comes through to see how things go
[06:12] <duffyd> just using test data I've created manually at this stage
[06:16] <duffyd> cu all
[07:02] <raji> anyone know how to install bazaar in my ubuntu system
[07:03] <spiv> apt-get install bzr
[07:03] <Hobbsee> sudo apt-get install bzr
[10:37] <domas> hi! I did this before, but can't find now, where can I assign series to a branch?
[10:37] <domas> stupid me, found it
[10:37] <wgrant> domas: On the series page, there's a link in the actions portlet.
[10:37]  * wgrant stabs Launchpad.
[10:37] <domas> wgrant: I was looking everywhere, except main project page
[10:37] <wgrant> How do I even have privileges to see the display names of private teams?
[10:40] <kiko-afk> wgrant, there are no such thing as private teams yet
[10:41] <kiko-afk> wgrant, there are private membership teams
[10:41] <wgrant> kiko-afk: Then why are there these teams that exist but I cannot see?
[10:41] <kiko-afk> wgrant, you mean <redacted>
[10:41] <wgrant> I know that one of them existed a couple of weeks ago.
[10:42] <kiko-afk> ?
[10:42] <kiko-afk> sorry, that was a question
[10:42] <wgrant> kiko-afk: No, it gives me their display names and names, but going to the URL 404s.
[10:42] <kiko-afk> that was actually a bug
[10:42] <kiko-afk> anyway
[10:43] <kiko-afk> there is working happening on private teams this month
[10:43] <kiko-afk> brad and curtis
[10:43] <wgrant> It also seems to show merged teams.
[10:44] <kiko-afk> "it"?
[10:45] <wgrant> wgrant: https://edge.launchpad.net/people/?name=canonical&searchfor=teamsonly as an unprivileged user, sorry.
[10:45] <wgrant> Gah.
[10:45] <wgrant> kiko-afk: ^^
[10:45] <fab1> hi all, I would like some help on migrating my bug reports from sourceforge to LP
[10:46] <fab1> I already posted a question about that and an admin told me that the migration will be done, but after 2 weeks no news..
[10:46] <fab1> it was question 57552  https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/57552
[10:47] <kiko-afk> fab1, oops! what's the que.. ah
[10:47] <fab1> for migrating Stellarium
[10:47] <kiko-afk> gmb, ping?
[10:47] <gmb> kiko-afk: Hi
[10:47]  * gmb reads scrollback
[10:49] <gmb> fab1: Hi. Sorry for not getting back to you sooner; I'd let this slip of my radar; my fault entirely.
[10:49] <fab1> ah ok
[10:49] <fab1> no problm
[10:49] <gmb> fab1: I've already done a local import of stellarium and it looks fine.
[10:49] <gmb> So we need to do an import to a public availalbe location for you to check it out.
[10:50] <fab1> OK, the thing is that the trackers were modified lastly on sf
[10:50] <fab1> ok, it's fine with me
[10:50] <gmb> fab1: How do you mean?
[10:50] <fab1> I mean you need to start agin from the sf.net tracker
[10:50] <fab1> not from your now older copy
[10:50] <gmb> fab1: Oh, okay.
[10:50] <gmb> I make a point of doing that anyway, but thanks for letting me know.
[10:51] <fab1> gmb: nice :), I'm looking forward, sf drive me nut!
[10:51] <gmb> fab1: I'll take care of that for you today or tomorrow... I just need to find out the best place to do the import for you to check it out.
[10:52] <gmb> fab1: Sorry I had to make your pain last longer :/
[10:52] <fab1> gmb: hehe, it's ok after some years..
[10:52] <gmb> :)
[10:52] <kiko-afk> gmb, maybe freeze staging db upgrades and do it there?
[10:52] <kiko-afk> I realize the lack of demo sucks
[10:52] <gmb> kiko-afk: That's what I was thinking.
[10:53] <kiko-afk> but we can only do demo when we have the new servers in
[10:53] <gmb> kiko-afk: Can you take care of freezing staging or do I need to wait for a LOSA?
[10:53] <kiko-afk> wgrant, I think that's also a long-standing bug 8)
[10:53] <kiko-afk> gmb, better to get a LOSA to do it, but talk to francis and curtis too because they have similar needs right now
[10:53] <gmb> kiko-afk: Righto.
[10:54] <kiko-afk> for the milestone/series stuff
[10:54] <gmb> fab1: I'll keep you posted about this; I should be able to let you know some time today about when I'll be able to do the improt.
[10:55] <fab1> OK, thanks a lot
[10:55] <wgrant> kiko-afk: I see...
[10:55] <kiko-afk> gmb, just run it today on staging and he'll be able to see it for at least 24h?
[10:55] <kiko-afk> wgrant, reported also I believe
[10:55] <fab1> and check out the new Stellarium version if you have time :)
[10:56] <gmb> kiko-afk: True, but the staging update log only goes up to yesterday, so I don't know whether the staging update for today is in progress or not.
[10:56] <gmb> kiko-afk: I'll talk to herb when he comes online.
[10:56] <kiko-afk> gmb, yeah, spm is probably gone by now
[10:56] <gmb> kiko-afk: Yeah, it's 22:00 his time :)
[10:56] <kiko-afk> well he amazes us sometimes
[10:56] <kiko-afk> anyway, I need to roll out, will bbiab
[10:56] <gmb> Ok.
[10:57] <fab1> ok ciao guys
[12:53] <mikl> hmm, how do I delete a project on Launchpad
[12:57] <mrevell> mikl: File a request at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[13:12] <cyberix> authentication fails with a ppa
[13:12] <cyberix> how do I debug this?
[13:12] <cyberix> apt-get doesn't tell me what fails
[13:13] <domas> \o/ wheee, released my pet project via launchpad
[13:13] <cyberix> domas: congrats
[13:13] <al-maisan> cyberix: what does "authentication fails with a ppa" mean?
[13:13] <al-maisan> what problems are you having?
[13:14] <cyberix> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! gnunet gnunet-tools gnunet-server gnunet-client gnunet-common
[13:14] <cyberix> Install these packages without verification [y/N]?
[13:14] <cyberix> E: Some packages could not be authenticated
[13:14] <cyberix> And I added the key
[13:14] <domas> cyberix: install your PGP key?
[13:14] <cyberix> :-)
[13:14] <domas> you did not, then!
[13:15] <cyberix> ?
[13:15] <domas> did you sign the packages?!!? :)
[13:15] <cyberix> They are not mine
[13:15] <al-maisan> cyberix: are you trying to install the packages on your local system?
[13:15] <cyberix> yes
[13:15] <al-maisan> Is this an apt-get error?
[13:15] <cyberix> yes
[13:15] <al-maisan> cyberix: where did you add the key?
[13:16] <cyberix> https://launchpad.net/~teamgnunet/+archive/ppa
[13:16] <cyberix> got it from there
[13:16] <al-maisan> .. and then?
[13:16] <cyberix> added it both the graphical way
[13:16] <cyberix> and command line way
[13:17] <al-maisan> cyberix: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA#Adding%20a%20PPA%27s%20keys%20to%20your%20system
[13:17] <al-maisan> did you follow this?
[13:17] <cyberix> yes
[13:17] <cyberix> that's the one
[13:19] <al-maisan> cyberix: please do a "sudo apt-key list" and see whether the key in question is listed
[13:20] <cyberix> pub   1024R/A52AD45F 2009-01-20
[13:20] <cyberix> uid                  Launchpad PPA for teamgnunet
[13:23] <al-maisan> cyberix: something's not the way it should be, please request support here: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion
[13:25] <cyberix> Someone managed to install the packages without warnings
[13:26] <cyberix> http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Benutzer/zerwas
[13:29] <wgrant> cyberix: Have you run apt-get update since you added the key?
[13:29] <cyberix> yes
[14:08] <al-maisan> cyberix: your PPA wasn't modified since signing keys were introduced.
[15:14] <AlexC_> intellectronica, g'morning, you alive?
[15:17] <intellectronica> AlexC_: hi
[15:18] <AlexC_> intellectronica, just wondering if I had to create a question for the blueprint removal, or if you were going to poke someone about it
[15:18] <intellectronica> AlexC_: sorry i still haven't gotten to deleting your data, b.t.w. i'll try to finish it at some point today
[15:18] <AlexC_> ahh, ok =) No worries
[15:18] <intellectronica> AlexC_: no, no need for another question. i just need to go through this with an admin
[15:19] <AlexC_> intellectronica, ok, thanks again for doing this
[15:27] <gorgapor> Hi. I'm new to launchpad. I have a bzr plugin I wrote, and i would like to host it on launchpad. But I don't want to confuse it with the official bzr plugins. Is there a naming convention I should use here? bzr-plugin-** seems to be taken by the official bzr development.
[15:32] <gary_poster> gorgapor: I don't know of one but I'll see if I can find out for you.  abentley, can you help out? ^^
[15:32] <abentley> gorgapor: There are no official plugins.
[15:32] <gorgapor> i just figured out that there's a difference between a hosted project and a hosted branch. If i put it under ~gorgapor/+junk/whatever it will be very clear that it's just my plugin
[15:33] <abentley> gorgapor: If you think your plugin isn't really ready for other people to use, that's a fine place for it.
[15:33] <gary_poster> gorgapor: but then it looks like junk to other people. :-)  if it is actually something you think is worth sharing, I say make a project
[15:34] <gary_poster> heh, agree with abentley; glass half empty, half full versions
[15:36] <gorgapor> well, i'll ask your opinion of it... It's a plugin that we use at my work, to run django unittests before commiting. but it's generic enough to run any command before commiting, then ask the user whether or not to continue, based on the output of the command
[15:37] <gorgapor> also, can anyone think of a better name for the plugin than "ask_commit" ?
[15:38] <abentley> gorgapor: That sounds worth making a project for.  Perhaps "bzr-conditional-commit?"
[15:38] <gorgapor> abentley: that name is an improvement
[15:47] <gorgapor> dumb question: i've made the project, how do i add my branch to it?
[15:48] <gorgapor> nm, found the help page
[16:44] <dnwe> a quick question about releases & milestones if someone is free?
[16:44] <dnwe> (otherwise i'll put it on answers.launchpad.net instead)
[16:45] <gary_poster> dnwe: what's up
[16:45] <dnwe> gary_poster: ok, https://help.launchpad.net/Projects/SeriesMilestonesReleases
[16:45] <dnwe> gary_poster: currently we only have a devlopment series
[16:45] <dnwe> gary_poster: now we want to plan for a 1.0 release
[16:46] <dnwe> gary_poster: should we a) create a 1.0 milestone on the development series, b) rename the development release to 1.0 or c) create a separate 1.0 milestone with different branch
[16:46] <dnwe> c) should say release, not milestone
[16:49] <gary_poster> dnwe: That's up to you, to some degree.  (See the 2.17/2.18 GNOME example in the link you gave.)  What I've seen other teams do is c, keeping the development series around.
[16:50] <dnwe> ok
[17:43] <ScottK> Just wanted to pop in and say I think Launchpad Performance Week is a great idea.  I'm glad to see performance getting some attention.
[17:44] <Ursinha> ScottK, :)
[17:44] <ScottK> If it gets fast enough, I might even manage to use the site navigation features and not use tab completion and url typing.
[17:57] <AlexC_> g'morning
[17:58] <AlexC_> I've a question about translations work flow. We currently work in /trunk of our repo, and this is the translations files we would like translated - do I upload these for the series 'trunk', or for the series that this release will become? For example, 'trunk' will become '2.3.0'
[17:58] <AlexC_> also, how does Launchpad handle changing .pot files? Such as if I upload a .pot file, then a new one with additional strings and some removed - will all translations remain, but with blanks and others removed?
[17:59] <intellectronica> AlexC_: maybe danilos can answert that?
[17:59] <intellectronica> AlexC_: b.t.w your blueprints are gone. bugs to follow
[17:59] <AlexC_> intellectronica, =) thank you very much
[19:14] <alecwh1> Someone posted a bug in my LP project with revealing information (username and password). How can I censor his post as to remove it?
[19:14] <alecwh1> remove the sensitive info*
[19:15] <alecwh1> Oh, nevermind, it's marked as "private". =P
[19:58] <alex-weej> i am currently pushing my branch to ~alex-weej/+junk/something
[19:58] <alex-weej> but now i've registered my project
[19:58] <alex-weej> how do i update my bzr repo?
[20:07] <beuno> alex-weej, bzr push --remember
[20:07] <beuno> will change the default push location
[20:15] <bd_> why is it that the launchpad PPA build farm is almost completely idle despite having long queues?
[20:16] <bd_> right now there's 2xi386 active and 2x lpia active, amd64 totally idle, but 9xlpia 14xi386 20xamd64 in queue
[20:16] <bd_> it's like it takes so long to issue a new job that old jobs finish before it can assign new ones to that host...
[20:16] <bigjools> they're probably newly-added and the process that dispatches the builds has not caught up yet
[20:17] <bigjools> we're working on making that better
[20:17] <maxb> I have been told in the past that the machines pick up new builds via a cronjob, not immediately - is that still true?
[20:17] <bd_> moar parallel dispatch :)
[20:17] <bigjools> maxb: it's a twisted app
[20:17] <bigjools> bd_: exactly!
[20:18] <maxb> So, what's the expected latency from enqueueing to allocating an idle buildd?
[20:18] <bd_> based on refreshing +builds, it looks like it takes ~10-20s to issue a job?
[20:18] <bigjools> it depends on how many other builds are in process and if any just completed
[20:21] <bd_> also, for future reference, is there any good way to cancel my own build job, if I realize I made some mistake on a relatively heavy build?
[20:22] <bd_> I know I can delete the package, but if the build was already issued, it still ties up buildd time
[20:22] <bigjools> unfortunately not
[20:23] <bd_> :/
[20:25] <maxb> Poor hppa buildd. I don't think it'll ever finish its queue :-)
[20:26] <bd_> maxb: give it until the release feeeze, I guess? :)
[20:26] <ScottK> For Intrepid it was still madly building up to the end and didn't finish.
[20:26] <wgrant> Where'd primero go?
[20:26] <ScottK> But that was mostly because libc6 was broken for a long time and then only fixed at the last moment.
[20:26] <wgrant> I think that Hardy is the only recent release where it caught up by the end.
[20:29] <mtaylor> hey guys - so when someone puts up a merge request, and I merge them and push, launchpad picks that up and marks it as merged
[20:29] <mtaylor> but if I merge them into an intermediate branch first, and then merge that into the target branch, launchpad does not seem to notice
[20:41] <mwhudson> mtaylor: yeah, i think the scanner only looks at the tip revision of the branches
[20:41] <mtaylor> mwhudson: well, that would explain it then
[20:41] <mtaylor> mwhudson: should I file a bug? or is that expected behavior?
[20:42] <mwhudson> oh hm
[20:42] <beuno> *ahem*bug*ahem*
[20:42] <mwhudson> it seems that it only marks the branch as merged when it's merged into the dev focus
[20:42] <mwhudson> let's see what thumper thinks
[20:42] <thumper> yes?
[20:43] <mwhudson> thumper: see what mtaylor said about 6 lines up
[20:44] <thumper> mtaylor: launchpad should notice
[20:44] <thumper> mtaylor: can you give me a concrete example?
[20:44] <mtaylor> thumper: sure.
[20:44]  * mwhudson reads the code and agrees with thumper
[20:45] <mtaylor> thumper: lp:drizzle last night pushed a merge which contained a lot of sub merges
[20:45] <thumper> ok
[20:45] <mtaylor> one was https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~fallenpegasus/drizzle/logging/+merge/3229 (which I just fixed by hand - sorry) ... lemme look for one that's not fixed-by-hand
[20:45] <thumper> mtaylor: did the merge proposals not get marked?
[20:46] <mtaylor> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~fallenpegasus/drizzle/logging/+merge/3229
[20:46] <mwhudson> i can believe that the _branches_ might not have been marked as merged
[20:46] <mtaylor> there you go - there's one that didn't get marked
[20:46] <mtaylor> crappit
[20:46] <mtaylor> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~tmaesaka/drizzle/drizzle-fix-bug310304/+merge/3248
[20:47] <mwhudson> mtaylor: that looks merged to me too?
[20:47] <thumper> mtaylor: looks merged to me too
[20:47] <mtaylor> mwhudson: it shows status=pending and merged at revision= not available ?
[20:47] <thumper> mtaylor the review is pending
[20:47] <mtaylor> ah... I see merged now though
[20:47] <mtaylor> gotcha
[20:47] <thumper> mtaylor: and it doesn't know what revision it was merged at
[20:48] <thumper> mtaylor: if we tried harder, we could figure it out
[20:48] <thumper> mtaylor: but it has some pathalogical cases
[20:48] <mtaylor> ok. fair enough.
[20:48] <thumper> mtaylor: which I didn't want to get into
[20:48] <mtaylor> I'm sure it does!
[20:48] <thumper> mtaylor: and was wanting bzrlib to provide a nice method for us
[20:48] <thumper> mtaylor: all of the outstanding drizzle proposals have uncommitted revisions
[20:48] <thumper> mtaylor: we check merged to mean "tip of source branch is in target"
[20:49] <mtaylor> ok. sweet.
[20:49] <mtaylor> thumper: is launchpad sending people emails to let them know their branches got merged?
[20:49] <thumper> I'm wondering if we need some UI polish to not make the pending review stick out so much for a merged proposal
[20:50] <thumper> mtaylor: as long has they haven't unsubscribed from their own branch, yes
[20:50]  * thumper thinks
[20:50] <mtaylor> it might be nice - also... it's unclear to me right now how to make that pending review
[20:50] <mtaylor> ah
[20:50] <thumper> actually, I'm not sure that the scanner is triggering that email
[20:50] <mtaylor> how to make that pending review change status
[20:51] <thumper> mtaylor: there should be a link next to it
[20:51] <thumper> mtaylor: also, if you are a member of the team and review the code, you should claim it
[20:51] <mtaylor> no link...
[20:51] <thumper> mtaylor: there is a small buglet which I'd like to fix on the review claiming
[20:52] <thumper> mtaylor: probably because it is merged :)
[20:52] <mtaylor> hehe
[20:52] <mtaylor> perhaps being merged should be a way to indicate review accepted?
[20:52] <thumper> mtaylor: yes, but accepted by whom?
[20:53] <mtaylor> the person who merged it?
[20:53] <thumper> what if a robot merged it?
[20:53] <thumper> what if LP can't work out who merged it?
[20:53] <thumper> although I see what you mean
[20:53] <mtaylor> well, in that case, I totally see your point
[20:53] <thumper> file a bug :)
[20:53] <mtaylor> yay!
[20:54] <mtaylor> it's also a bug that buigs.launchpad.net doesn't take me anywhere :)
[20:54] <thumper> no
[20:54] <thumper> that's pebkac
[20:54] <thumper> :)
[20:54] <thumper> maybe a page that says "Did you mean bugs.launchpad.net?"
[20:57] <mtaylor> hehe
[20:58] <mtaylor> k. bug#325030
[21:00] <thumper> mtaylor: thanks
[22:04] <soren> Hmm... When uploading to my ppa, I get:
[22:04] <soren> Rejected
[22:04] <soren> Could not find person ''
[22:04] <soren> What could be causing this?
[22:05] <soren> Ah...
[22:05] <soren> Not having my .dput.cf on there, probably.
[22:05] <soren> Never mind.
[22:54] <EagleScreen> hello, i think launchpad has a small low importance bug in PPA pages, sometimes selector of release to show does not change the apt lines the first time you chage it, i pray for you to understand I say
[22:55] <beuno> EagleScreen, it works fone for me
[22:55] <EagleScreen> ppa pages has a selector: Display sources.list entries for... that button does not always works fine for me
[22:56] <EagleScreen> sometimes i have to use it various times to change apt lines
[22:56] <beuno> EagleScreen, sometines it does and sometimes it doesn't?
[22:56] <EagleScreen> yes
[22:56] <beuno> do you get a javascript error?
[22:56] <EagleScreen> any error is presented to me
[22:57] <beuno> EagleScreen, well, I can't reproduce it, and if you can't give us any information on what errors you get, it's kinda hard to fix
[23:01] <EagleScreen> yes i know, but it is not failing right now
[23:02] <EagleScreen> the building of a package i uploaded has failed, it is the first time it happens to me, look the log:
[23:02] <EagleScreen> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/21962246/buildlog_ubuntu-intrepid-amd64.mount-systray_0.4-1guada2ubuntu1~ppa1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[23:02] <EagleScreen> any idea?
[23:46] <maxb> EagleScreen: I suggest you actually read the log!
[23:46] <maxb> Since it explicitly states what the problem is
[23:52] <EagleScreen> gnome-doc-prepare?
[23:53] <maxb> Well, I was more thinking the next line down which even tells you what package and version requirement is needed, but yes
[23:56] <EagleScreen> oh now I see, in intrepid there is a lower version of gnome-doc-utils
[23:57] <EagleScreen> then.. must I also upload an updated gnome-doc-utils to my ppa?
[23:59] <EagleScreen> One moment. Is not 0.13.1 upper than 0.4.2?
[23:59] <EagleScreen> intrepid has 0.13.1