[08:08] <wafflejock> Grimm_: yeah that's what I'm saying not sure any one person will have their head wrapped around every step but certainly a good place to get help along the way
[08:08] <molavy1> jnhghy: any idea?
[08:09] <jnhghy> molavy1: I still don't understand what is the exact issue: you host a website that is public and you can't access it from the localhost? or what? do you also have a gateway?
[08:09] <Grimm_> I got one SSD , split up in one small partition for the windows boot loader , and the rest of the SSD for windows 7 . On the second HDD i have in this machine , i create a GRUB boot partition of 500mb , a root partition , and a swap partition . Does this make sense ?
[08:10] <molavy1> again , i have raw server and want setup visualization on it, i install centos 6.4 as host
[08:10] <wilee-nilee> Grimm_, For what?
[08:11] <molavy1> then i setup libvirt on it and make vm machine
[08:11] <Grimm_> dual boot install of windows 7 and ubuntu 13 . windows on the SSD , and ubuntu on the HDD ?
[08:11] <jony_easyrider> I need a user friendly solution how can the users change their SSH password on my server
[08:11] <molavy1> i want setup ubuntu as web server
[08:11] <wilee-nilee> Grimm_, You mention efi earlier how is that related?
[08:12] <Nmbr1> jony_easyrider: do they login via CLI or GUI?
[08:12] <roscogruen> ANYONE:  want to install linux on an acer aspire V5-122p-0643.  secure boot/uefi or something is blocking it.  ideas?
[08:12] <jnhghy> molavy1: now I undertand... sorry don't know...
[08:12] <Grimm_> i don't think its related , i was just stating that i have been reading a lot about all these things and EFI passed my mind ,
[08:12] <Nmbr1> jony_easyrider: if it is CLI why not have them type passwd?
[08:12] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | roscogruen
[08:12] <Grimm_> now im using this guide , i think its also applyable for the latest ubuntu ? http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/10/10/dual-boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu-12-04-on-a-pc-with-uefi-board-ssd-and-hdd/
[08:12] <wafflejock> !details | molavy1 where are you stuck?
[08:12] <molavy1> but it take to long and i am in installation about 15 minute for each step showing
[08:13] <molavy1> i want install ubuntu version 13.10 , what command output you want know
[08:14] <wafflejock> molavy1: are you installing ubuntu server edition or desktop edition?
[08:14] <roscogruen> wilee-nilee: what does that mean?  !uefi  ?
[08:14] <wafflejock> roscogruen: the !somethingHere are commands meant for the bot to respond to
[08:14] <wilee-nilee> roscogruen, Read what the bot says right after, about uefi, it is a bot prompt
[08:14] <wafflejock> !bot | roscogruen
[08:15] <roscogruen> oh, okay.  thank you.  i've been wondering
[08:15] <roscogruen> lol
[08:15] <wafflejock> roscogruen: no worries new to IRC I take it :)
[08:15] <roscogruen> quite
[08:15] <roscogruen> old user but not frequent
[08:15] <wilee-nilee> Grimm_, uefi is a bit of a mystery to most of us here, just a heads up really.
[08:16] <wafflejock> wilee-nilee: truth
[08:16] <jony_easyrider> Nmbr1, what is CLI? Those user accounts are for accessing their own folders on the server. The server is like a file transfer server
[08:16] <Grimm_> yeah it seems to be :( and all these UEFI guides i find give different info as all systems seem to be slightly different
[08:17] <RaginHam> evening all
[08:17] <wilee-nilee> Grimm_, When it's an OEM they can be for sure.
[08:17] <roscogruen> do many people bypass this block easily when moving from Win8 to linux?
[08:18] <Nmbr1> jony_easyrider: CLI is command line interface. I would write a shell script and put it on their desktop that logs them in and issues the passwd command so they can type a new password
[08:18] <wafflejock> Grimm_: since you're in murky waters perhaps it's best to pull the SSD while doing the Linux install the do a bootrepair to get grub installed... just an idea
[08:18] <scott_w> roscogruen: running ubuntu on a UEFI system?
[08:18] <hitsujiTMO> roscogruen: uefi depends a lot on the motherboard manufacturer. For some it's simple, for others it difficult
[08:19] <ozgur> hii anybody connect succesufly wireless network with İntel Centrino-N 6300 card?
[08:19] <jony_easyrider> Nmbr1, do you recommend to give them a solution with using https://ssh.serverdo.in/ ?
[08:19] <Grimm_> ive tried running a USB with the boot repair disk (burned with unetbootin) , but all it does is show me some options at boot , if i select the boot repair option , it loads ubuntu and nothing happens , no reports of boot repair nothing..
[08:19] <jony_easyrider> Nmbr1, it's safe to use that site?
[08:19] <wilee-nilee> Grimm_, bootrepair is run in the desktop
[08:20] <ozgur> iwlwifi driver is very unstable for dhcp or internet speed what can i do ?
[08:20] <Grimm_> ok , should i execute it from the command then ?
[08:20] <Grimm_> console i mean
[08:20] <hitsujiTMO> roscogruen: what version of ubuntu are you trying to install?
[08:20] <RaginHam> anyone ever updated a network card in a lenovo? Switched out the RT3090 which came in my machine with a ThinkPenguin Atheros AR9285..... my speed tests are amazing. Perfect, consistent speed for over an hour (something I'd never get more than 1 minute worth before).
[08:20] <roscogruen> gosh.   how could i determine beforehand if i should be making the switch?  (will i end up with tons of problems)
[08:20] <wilee-nilee> Grimm_, Is there a bootrepair option in grub now after running it? Is ubuntu installed?
[08:21] <roscogruen> 14 i think
[08:21] <wafflejock> roscogruen: backup and don't worry
[08:21] <Grimm_> ubuntu is not yet installed , i want to first fresh format all drives and reinstall windows on the SSD as this current install has issues.
[08:21] <hitsujiTMO> roscogruen: the version number is on the iso (aything 14.xx) isnt released til next year
[08:21] <roscogruen> looks like Grimm_ is having similar issue
[08:22] <Grimm_> i got tons of issues !  Keeps giving me a "140 - unsupported wireless device..." on the bootup, but seems to be working after each bootup.
[08:23] <Fargone> Ls
[08:23] <ozgur> hii anybody connect succesufly wireless network with İntel Centrino-N 6300 card? iwlwifi driver is very unstable for dhcp or internet speed what can i do ?
[08:23] <Grimm_> ok, so i can best format first , reinstall windows on the SSD , unplug the SSD , install linux on the HDD and THEN run boot repair ?
[08:23] <roscogruen> hitsujiTMO: i've no idea.  not important to me now
[08:23] <wilee-nilee> Grimm_, I have W8.1 on my msdos and 3 linux OS's I'm avoiding the uefi thang as long as I can.
[08:23] <ikonia> Grimm_: don't unplug disks
[08:23] <wafflejock> Grimm_: yeah basically I was saying if you wanted to avoid tampering with the windows drive in case it had stuff you needed to keep
[08:23] <wafflejock> Grimm_: no need to unplug if it's all fresh
[08:23] <ikonia> Grimm_: leave them both in at the same time, so that the driver order/list is the same all the way through
[08:24] <Grimm_> i got everything backed up on an external disk , and all external disks are disconnected now . Nothing too loose
[08:24] <ikonia> Grimm_: to be honest, no real need to use boot repair, using the tool from within ubuntu and the install media should be enough, you also know you are using the same versions of things like grub as the ubuntu installer then
[08:24] <wafflejock> Grimm_: cool
[08:24] <roscogruen> Grimm_: are you having a hard time with uefi block?
[08:25] <pouet78> hello, does anyone knows where I can find help abous schroot?
[08:25] <Grimm_> terrible hard time. Last time i tried it , windows would immediatly boot , i could not get the boot loader to appear . Next to that having issues with graphics card and ubuntu , but that got solved with some command (nomodeset or soemthing)
[08:25] <roscogruen> is it Win8?
[08:26] <RaginHam> pouet: what type of help?
[08:26] <Grimm_> win7
[08:26] <roscogruen> k
[08:26] <Grimm_> aint touching windows 8 with a 50 feet pole hahaha
[08:26] <RaginHam> pouet78: tried "man schroot" in terminal yet?
[08:27] <roscogruen> it looks like they've put roadblocks up so running linux on top of it is difficult.  very difficult
[08:27] <pouet78> I'd like t create a chroot which runs qemu automatically because it is armel on my amd64
[08:27] <Grimm_> yeah it feels like that they make it as hard as possible .
[08:28] <roscogruen> well, at least we know the employees are actually working there now.
[08:28] <Grimm_> but anyway , just to summarize what im going to do , so if anything sounds wrong i hopefully know it before i start this process again.
[08:29] <pouet78> I already created one "from scratch" using mk-sbuild but now I have an armel image that I would likt to transform to a chroot
[08:30] <roscogruen> i'm thinking to pull out and not install ubuntu on this new laptop.  it is the girlfriend's anyhow
[08:30] <pouet78> I searched man and docs I don't understand how schroot knows to use qemu
[08:31] <pouet78> any clue?
[08:31] <roscogruen> Grimm_: and also make sure win8 isn't on any new machine i buy
[08:32] <Grimm_> 1st format all drives . Then install windows 7 on the SSD , just like i would do standard without thinking about dual boot. If thats done , install linux on the HDD via 'something else' and create following partitions : 1= 500mb boot partition , primary , ext4 , mount point = /boot.     2=root partition , primary , ext4 , mount point = /     3=4 gig SWAP   ... Device for boot loader /dev/sdb
[08:32] <Grimm_> does that sound sensible ? or am i lost already
[08:33] <Serus> Hi
[08:33] <Serus> I'm currently booted in a Live usb of ubuntu using UEFI
[08:34] <hitsujiTMO> Grimm_: if you're using uefi boot you need an efi system partition too (50mb should be enough)
[08:34] <Serus> I'm not Grimm_ But I am using UEFI boot
[08:34] <Serus> and I already have a UEFI partition
[08:35] <hitsujiTMO> Grimm_: ahh sorry, if you're installing win 7 then it will create it for you
[08:35] <Grimm_> ok , so i don't need to worry about EFI at all ? i still dont get the EFI thing fully im afraid
[08:35] <Guest34904> i am in greece and  i see official docs https://help.ubuntu.com/12.10/ubuntu-help/index.html  in greek. how can i see it in english?
[08:35] <wilee-nilee> Grimm_, So is this a uefi computer from a purchase and it had W8 or a custom build that happens to have a uefi setup?
[08:36] <Grimm_> custom build with a Asus Arock motherboard with UEFI on there when i got it
[08:36] <hitsujiTMO> grimm_: instead of an mbr bootstrap, the OS looks for a EFI boot partition. when it finds it, it looks there for the various OS bootstraps. That's the only real difference.
[08:36] <wilee-nilee> Grimm_, I think you can set the bios as legacy and make msdos partition tables and just install like normal.
[08:36] <Serus> Kinda the same here.
[08:36] <Grimm_> had windows 7 also preinstalled . machine comes from a site where you put your hardware together , they make the thing , install the windows you want and deliver it like that
[08:37] <Serus> Yeah you probably already have an EFI partition then
[08:37] <Gnik> Hello IRC world
[08:37] <Serus> Same here.
[08:37] <Serus> Hi Gnik
[08:37] <wilee-nilee> Grimm_, Ah, so the W7 was gpt uefi?
[08:38] <Grimm_> euhm not sure what to answer there
[08:38] <Serus> wilee-nilee, probably, it's the case with my laptop atleast
[08:38] <Serus> Grimm_, Are you in windows?
[08:38] <Grimm_> yup
[08:38] <wilee-nilee> Grimm_, Can you run the bootinfo summary on the bootrepair it would give us any info on gpt?
[08:39] <Daxro> Just had an Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS production server become unresponsive, responded to pings no nginx, ssh, etc kinda weird not sure how to investigate this
[08:39] <Serus> Ok click on start, then rightclick on computer and then click manage
[08:39] <Grimm_> ok im in computer management
[08:39] <Serus> Ok then click on harddrive manager or anything that looks like that
[08:39] <Grimm_> i can try to run the bootinfo summary , if i figure out how to get the bootrepair to work in that ubuntu desktop
[08:40] <Grimm_> disk management? im there
[08:40] <Serus> My windows is in dutch so it might not be completely accurate with other languages
[08:40] <Grimm_> i speak dutch , mine is english but i can follow i guess
[08:40] <hitsujiTMO> !bootrepair | Grimm_ info on installing it here
[08:40] <wilee-nilee> Grimm_, seems like Serus knows how to conform a gpt from windows.
[08:40] <hitsujiTMO> !boot-repair | Grimm_ info on installing it here
[08:40] <wilee-nilee> confirm
[08:40] <Serus> Ok do you have like a 100~200MB partition 1?
[08:40] <Grimm_> 100mb system reserved
[08:40] <Grimm_> on disk 0
[08:41] <Serus> does it have a label?
[08:41] <Guest34904> how can i see official documentation webpage in english?
[08:41] <hitsujiTMO> Grimm_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair thats info on installing boot repair.
[08:41] <Grimm_> alright thanks for that link , ill read into it in a sec
[08:41] <hitsujiTMO> Serus: that 100mb is the efi system partition
[08:41] <Nmbr1> i've never used it.
[08:41] <Nmbr1> as a general rule i like to keep anything account related in house
[08:41] <pouet78> Daxro: you should have physical access
[08:41] <Serus> hitsujiTMO, yes I think so too, but it's probably labeled SYSTEM.
[08:41] <Grimm_> im not sure if it has a label , don't know where too look fore
[08:42] <Serus> if it's labeled SYSTEM then it's the EFI partition
[08:42] <Serus> well it says system reserved so I'm 90% sure you already have an EFI partition.
[08:42] <hitsujiTMO> Serus: afaik, there's usually no labels on efi partitions even with windows.
[08:42] <Grimm_> it just says " system reserved  100mb NTFS , healthy "
[08:42] <wilee-nilee> Guest34904, try bringing it up then add /en to the end
[08:43] <hitsujiTMO> Grimm_: of its NTFS then its not efi system partition
[08:43] <Serus> Grimm_, NTFS? Hmm, I'm not completely sure if that's EFI.
[08:43] <Gnik> Can I remove win7 off my laptop and make ubuntu my only OS?
[08:43] <hitsujiTMO> gnik: yes
[08:43] <Serus> Gnik, yes, if you want to.
[08:44] <Gnik> how? is there a tut?
[08:44] <Serus> It's really easy.
[08:44] <hitsujiTMO> Grimm_: are you in the live cd now?
[08:44] <Serus> Do you have ubuntu installed or are you in a live environment?
[08:44] <Grimm_> no , im still in windows 7 , i havent started to format or anything yet , tried to figure out what road to take before i start walking
[08:44] <Serus> I see
[08:44] <Gnik> I booted off a USB
[08:45] <Grimm_> im going to take my tablet in a second , to get on the IRC there , while i start the process on the machine im currently typing on
[08:45] <hitsujiTMO> Grimm_: can you boot the live cd. there's a few tools there that can show us exactly what you have
[08:45] <wilee-nilee> Gnik, This computer ever have W8 a uefi setup?
[08:45] <Serus> Ok Gnik are you familiar with linux?
[08:45] <hitsujiTMO> Grimm_: theres an irc client on the live cd (or at least you can install one)
[08:45] <Gnik> I used kali linux but not alot
[08:45] <Gnik> so im a noob
[08:45] <Gnik> XD
[08:46] <Serus> hitsujiTMO, I installed hexchat on live usb
[08:46] <Serus> Xchat*
[08:46] <Grimm_> ok , is it sensible to first already install Windows 7 on the SSD as i would normally do without considering the dual boot ? If thats done ill plug in the liveusb for ubuntu and get into that enviroment ?
[08:46] <hitsujiTMO> Ahh, so it needs to be installed, but at least you can install it
[08:46] <Serus> Gnik, that's OK, how is your understanding on computers?
[08:47] <kubanc> Hellow! I get this error after i installed extplorer in /var/www folder: failed to spawn mysql main process unable to execute: permission denied
[08:47] <hitsujiTMO> Grimm_: its easier to if windows is installed first.
[08:47] <Serus> Grimm_, Yes, ALWAYS install windows first. Windows "breaks" the old bootloader.
[08:47] <Grimm_> allright i start with that first. Nothing special i have to consider when installing windows ?
[08:47] <Serus> Nope, just keep spamming Next
[08:47] <Grimm_> ok
[08:47] <Serus> well
[08:48] <Serus> you might consider not taking up the complete harddrive
[08:48] <wilee-nilee> Grimm_, If you are building partitions it is a manual install.
[08:48] <Serus> since resizing partitions can take a very long time.
[08:48] <hitsujiTMO> kubanc: I'm not sure extplorer is even being developed any more. might be an idea to try an alternative
[08:49] <Grimm_> I generally use the entire SSD for windows as i use windows often for gaming and some more heavy 3D modelling software
[08:49] <Gnik> When I remove win7 will it also delete all the files/games/programs and viruses ?
[08:49] <Serus> hitsujiTMO, What device should I select for bootloader installation? The EFI partition, or just /dev/sda?
[08:49] <Serus> Gnik, everything will be gone.
[08:49] <Gnik> thats good
[08:49] <hitsujiTMO> Serus: if you see that then you're not in UEFI mode install
[08:50] <Grimm_> its a 128gig SSD drive , and next to that i got a 1TB HDD , that i wanted to split up in one part of 100gig for Ubuntu , and the rest of that drive in NTFS as a "data partition" that all OS could reach
[08:50] <veryhappy> hi guys, can i anywhere get the bfq scheduler for ubuntu? cause i'm using this scheduler on my android phone and i'm very happy about it but linus torvalds "doesn't want to have to do with more than one kernel" like he stated.
[08:50] <Serus> Gnik, are you completely sure you want that?
[08:50] <kubanc> hitsujiTMO: well it broke my http server
[08:50] <kubanc> hitsujiTMO: i think permissions to my folders changed
[08:50] <Gnik> yes, im 100% sure
[08:50] <Serus> hitsujiTMO, this command "dmesg | grep "EFI v"" gives me the EFI version I'm running.
[08:51] <Serus> Gnik, Ok, you where in a live USB right?
[08:51] <hitsujiTMO> Serus: whats the output of: efibootmgr
[08:51] <Serus> let me check
[08:51] <Serus> currently not installed :p
[08:52] <hitsujiTMO> Serus: you may need to do: sudo efibootmgr
[08:52] <hitsujiTMO> Serus: install it onto the live cd
[08:52] <Gnik> When I turn on my laptop it gives me a choice to boot up in win7 or ubuntu, thats all i know Serus
[08:52] <ZujkisNx> Hi, I'm trying to run clojure server and getting an error: "Could not bind to port: XXXXX".. do I need to configure something in OS?
[08:52] <Daxro> pouet78: Why would I need physical access to a server ?
[08:53] <Serus> Gnik, I see, and you are in ubuntu?
[08:53] <Serus> hitsujiTMO, installation failed O.o
[08:53] <hitsujiTMO> gnik: if you want ubuntu solely, i would suggest just backing everything up and doing aclean install
[08:53] <Serus> should I do a apt-get update first?
[08:53] <Gnik> yes im in ubuntu now
[08:53] <hitsujiTMO> Serus: yup
[08:54] <svector> what shall I configure so that programs shall have the file access permissions they need? Eclipse says it can access android sdk's adb...
[08:54] <Gnik> clean install?
[08:54] <hitsujiTMO> gnik: as in wipe your current install of windows and ubuntu and install a fresh copy of ubuntu
[08:54] <Serus> hitsujiTMO, It's in use by the installer >.<
[08:55] <hitsujiTMO> serus :P
[08:55] <Gnik> and how do i do that?
[08:56] <hitsujiTMO> gnik: tell the install disk. it will give you that option when installing
[08:56] <Serus> requesting permission to paste 8 lines of output
[08:56] <hitsujiTMO> Serus: paste.ubuntu.com
[08:56] <Gnik> Can i do it via a USB?
[08:56] <hitsujiTMO> !usb | gnik yes you can!
[08:56] <Serus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6363579/
[08:57] <Gnik> thanks everyone for the help
[08:57] <devilskin> I moved files from a ext3 file system to fat32 system and burned it to dvd and both comes up with files damaged. I know this because I md5sum the pictures on the source drive the ext3 drive and when I check them from this md5sum I get fails I get different files that fail when I do the backup again... does anyone know what I can do to get the files to another file system intacted?
[08:57] <hitsujiTMO> Serus: cool, so you're probably in uefi install so. did it actually ask you where to install grub to?
[08:57] <devilskin> what should I do?
[08:58] <Serus> hitsujiTMO, uh, what install type? I selected manual
[08:59] <Serus> I want to make sure nothing gets overwritten :)
[08:59] <Serus> I mean I selected "Something else"
[08:59] <hitsujiTMO> serus: when you asked me where to install the bootloader to... did the installer ask you that?
[09:00] <Serus> yes, it asks that at the partition scheme
[09:00] <Woodsman> Does anyone in here have any idea why 250,000 insertions into a standard binary heap would complete half as quickly as 125,000 insertions followed by 125,000 deletions? I thought insertions were O(log(N)) and deletions were O(1), so it doesn't make sense that twice as many expensive operations takes half as long
[09:01] <ZujkisNx> Hi, I'm trying to run clojure server and getting an error: "Could not bind to port: XXXXX".. do I need to configure something in OS?
[09:01] <Serus> hitsujiTMO, sending you a screenshot in a sec
[09:01] <hitsujiTMO> Serus: that must be a bug in the installer then. it can only install the bootloader to the efi system partition. lol, was just going to ask you for one.
[09:02] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | Woodsman
[09:02] <hitsujiTMO> ZujkisNx: is something else using that port?
[09:03] <Serus> hitsujiTMO, http://dragoon.genyaa.org/install.png
[09:03] <RaginHam> Alright, seems like alot of the major problem users are winding down.
[09:03] <AndroUser> test
[09:03] <AndroUser> dmmed\
[09:03] <RaginHam> I'll try and address my problem again.
[09:04] <RaginHam> Lenovo's darned blacklist wireless devices. Updating BIOS my only option?
[09:04] <Serus> hitsujiTMO, WOW the site is SLOW, I need to tell my friend to restart his server.
[09:05] <Ben64> RaginHam: doesn't seem like an ubuntu issue, maybe try ##hardware ?
[09:05] <RaginHam> The card seems to be working without a hitch... but I get the 104 - unsupported wireless on boot.
[09:05] <RaginHam> k
[09:05] <RaginHam> thanks Ben.
[09:05] <Grimm3> ok cool , i got on the irc on my tablet pc , im going to format my SSD and the HDD , install windows 7 on the SSD like nothing special
[09:06] <hitsujiTMO> serus: :) yeah that looks to be a bug in the installer. i would leave it as it is
[09:06] <Serus> hitsujiTMO, Anyway you should be able to see it after a while.
[09:06] <Serus> hitsujiTMO, I can also select /dev/sda1
[09:06] <rich> why does ubuntu suck so much?
[09:06] <Serus> rich, I think this is not the right channel to talk about why ubuntu is bad.
[09:07] <rich> ney jsut kidding im using ubuntu now for years...
[09:07] <Serus> oh lol
[09:07] <rich> but im not very happy....with it. the problem is im not very happy with any distro
[09:08]  * Serus was going to use linux mint until UEFI destroyed his linux dreams.
[09:08] <hitsujiTMO> rich this is a support channel, if you want to have a chat hop in #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:08] <RaginHam> Vanilla Ubi? Tried Kubuntu or Xubuntu perhaps?
[09:09] <pouet78> Daxro, To understand why ping is ok and othe services are not
[09:09] <Serus> To be honest I'm sceptical ubuntu will even run on my UEFI system. Seeing I tried to get that working for 24hours straight.
[09:09] <Grimm3> never loose hope young padawan , many have succceeded before you !
[09:10] <svector> I can't copy files to directories in /  like /opt. how do i give the privilege to do so without going to the terminal and using sudo?
[09:10] <ikonia> Serus: I'm sure it will run as an OS, getting the bootloader setup can be a problem depending on your EFI implementation provided by your vendor
[09:10] <Grimm3> maar ik begrijp je wel , erg demotiverend als het zo moeilijk gaat toch
[09:10] <ikonia> svector: you put the user in the right group or open the permissions on /opt
[09:10] <Serus> Anyway, hitsujiTMO, /dev/sda or /dev/sda1?
[09:10] <wilee-nilee> Serus, We see people dual boot on a uefi everyday here. its just a bit of work for some.
[09:10] <hitsujiTMO> serus /dev/sda
[09:10] <Serus> Grimm3, Yeah, but let's stick to English :)
[09:11] <Serus> hitsujiTMO, Got it.
[09:11] <Grimm3> oki
[09:11] <Serus> wilee-nilee, a "bit" :p
[09:11] <svector> ikonia, chmod or chown?
[09:11] <ikonia> svector: depends which you do
[09:12] <Daxro> pouet78: But how would physical access help, when I have ssh access now ?
[09:12] <ikonia> svector: could be one, both, neither, depending on your approach
[09:12] <Serus> how big should I make the swap partition? I have 12GB ram and I tend to never shut down my laptop. Just closing it.
[09:12] <Grimm3> ok stupid little question , but whats the IRC command if you want to send a message to another user in this window , without private chat (like you answer to me and i see it in red?)
[09:12] <Ben64> Serus: do you ever want to hibernate?
[09:12] <svector> ikonia, I just want to be able to move files to any directory that I want
[09:12] <pouet78> Daxro, Oh thought ssh were KO
[09:13] <hitsujiTMO> serus: if you want hibernation then same as ram, if not 4gb should be enough
[09:13] <wilee-nilee> !tab | Grimm3
[09:13] <svector> Grimm3, their name followed by comma or :
[09:13] <pouet78> Daxro, you only have nginx KO?
[09:13] <svector> Grimm3, nickname
[09:13] <Serus> Ben64, That's closing my laptop and it will go in a low power state right?
[09:13] <Daxro> pouet78: It was during the non responsiveness for about 2 hours
[09:13] <Grimm3> svector, lets try that
[09:13] <svector> Grimm3,  :)
[09:13] <Ben64> svector: the ability to move files wherever you want anytime is not very secure at all
[09:13] <MasterOfDisaster> I'm having a problem with polkit-kde-1, its agent doesn't register itself properly: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6363652/
[09:13] <Grimm3> that worked ? Sweet , learned something new again
[09:13] <ikonia> svector: if that's what you want without sudo - you're going to break your system, you need to apply thought to your file systems
[09:14] <Daxro> pouet78: Everything was not responding apart from pings, got a data center dude to reboot it
[09:14] <Ben64> Serus: depends on your settings, hibernate is shutdown + save ram to HD to resume where you were at
[09:14] <Daxro> But not sure what caused it
[09:14] <svector> Ben64, so what is a good approach to move around files in nautilus?
[09:14] <hitsujiTMO> If you mention somesone name Grimm3, in a message, no matter where you put it, most irc clients will ping that user
[09:14] <pouet78> Daxro, ok so check in logs i you see anything special before reboot
[09:14] <Serus> That's what I currently do in windows 7, but my swapfile isn't nearly as big. Iirc I only have 3GB swap on windows.
[09:14] <Ben64> svector: why would you want to move files randomly around? what are you trying to accomplish?
[09:14] <Daxro> Every service we use was fine as far as the logs go
[09:15] <Grimm3> ok cool , really handy to know
[09:15] <svector> ikonia, that's right but that means I have to use the terminal all the time
[09:15] <ikonia> svector: no it doesn't
[09:15] <Daxro> Apart from about 2 hour gap in ever log kinda like the drive was read only for a while
[09:15] <pouet78> Daxro, what about system (/var/log/syslog)
[09:15] <hitsujiTMO> serus: closing lid defaults to suspend. you can change that to hibernation if you can get hibernation working
[09:16] <Serus> Ok, then can somebody tell me the differences between them?
[09:16] <svector> Ben64, i wanted to move some files to /opt and couldn't do it in nautilus ...
[09:16] <hitsujiTMO> serus, windows has a seperate hibernation file to the swap
[09:16] <Ben64> svector: you were already given the answer to that specific thing
[09:17] <svector> Ben64, can you tell me how to accomplish that?
[09:17] <Serus> hitsujiTMO, I see,I guess I'll google the differences for now.
 svector: you put the user in the right group or open the permissions on /opt
[09:18] <hitsujiTMO> serus, in suspend the laptop is in a low sleep, but still somewhat running. hibernation is more like a shutdown, ram is dumped to the swap file.
[09:18] <asdasd> svector: if you know password, try alt+f2 'gksu nautilus'
[09:19] <svector> Ben64,  on properties it says "You are not an owner so cannot change settings"
[09:19] <Ben64> svector: right. the easiest way to change owner is from the command line
[09:20] <hitsujiTMO> svector: what they're trying to tell you to do is create a user group. add your user to that group. chown the /opt directory to root:that group. then chmod g+ws the /opt directory. then relog and you can safely do what you want
[09:20] <Grimm3> one last IRC noob question , can i turn these join quit messages off with a command ?
[09:20] <Serus> hitsujiTMO, I guess to enable hibernation the only thing I can do is 12GB swap right?
[09:21] <Daxro> pouet78: There is 1 hour gap in /var/log/syslog
[09:21] <hitsujiTMO> serus: its a bit more envolved then that, but you should at least give it 12gb swap if you do want to use it
[09:21] <Serus> 12288 is 12GB? or 12000?
[09:22] <Serus> seeing a megabyte is a million bytes here.
[09:22] <DJones> Grimm3: Which IRC client are you using
[09:22] <hitsujiTMO> serus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PowerManagement/Hibernate        12288MB
[09:22] <DanielFew> Yes, nickname worked this time :P
[09:22] <Grimm3> androIRC on my android tablet
[09:23] <Grimm3> its different for every client ? then i know to google on this client specificly
[09:23] <Daxro> pouet78: Anyway cheers for the help, My manager is being an arse today so I cannot be bothered to help him anymore.
[09:23] <svector> hitsujiTMO, thanks a lot
[09:23] <svector> Ben64, I now get it. Thanks
[09:23] <DanielFew> If I wanted a user jailed in SFTP to say /home/network/directory, but needed them to be able to execute a file in SSH that's located in /home/network, what's the best way to go about doing this?
[09:23] <DJones> Grimm3: Grimm3 Yeah, every client is different
[09:23] <hitsujiTMO> serus: in that partition tool 1 MB = 1048576 B ... but 1G = 1000 MB ... its a really confused partitioner
[09:24] <DanielFew> Oh, and the file they execute has to be able to interact with everything in /home/network and /home/network/directory
[09:24] <Serus> hitsujiTMO, yeah lol
[09:25] <DJones> Grimm3: Looks like there should be an option in the settings menu, buts that about all I can suggest
[09:25] <hitsujiTMO> serus: i normally setup may partitions with cfdisk, or cgdisk instead. much more sane
[09:26] <Serus> Can you help me find  the right keyboard layout?
[09:26] <hitsujiTMO> Serus: what country are you in?
[09:26] <Grimm3> cant find it , so be it
[09:26] <hitsujiTMO> serus: ahh nl
[09:27] <hitsujiTMO> serus: is there a euro symbol on 4?
[09:27] <DanielFew> If I wanted a user jailed in SFTP to say /home/network/directory, but needed them to be able to execute a file in SSH that's located in /home/network, what's the best way to go about doing this? Also the file they are executing in /home/network needs to be able to read and write to /home/network and /home/network/directory
[09:27] <Serus> Normally on windows 7 it's Dutch - English international. But that's not here. And now I'm doing annoying stuff like this: "Iḿ itś"
[09:28] <Serus> hitsujiTMO, http://content.hwigroup.net/images/products/xl/158162.jpg
[09:28] <hitsujiTMO> serus: leave it as plain old dutch. you can change it after.
[09:28] <buu> What part of bash/ubuntu generates the "program X is not installed type apt-get.." ?
[09:28] <brian101> quit
[09:28] <hitsujiTMO> serus: that looks like a US layout
[09:29] <buu> And why is it going off when a program is actually installed
[09:29] <wafflejock> buu: what program
[09:29] <Serus> hitsujiTMO, Yeah, but I need it a little bit different, I normally can type these: ḿ ś
[09:29] <wafflejock> buu: is which finding it?
[09:30] <pouet78> buu, command-not-found package
[09:30] <buu> Oh, my fault!
[09:30] <buu> I had a bad alias, fixed!
[09:30] <buu> But for the sake of curiosity, what does trigger that message/
[09:30] <buu> And how does it know?!
[09:30] <simonsimcity> Hi, all
[09:30] <wafflejock> buu: a package name is not necessarily a binary name and it may not be in the path
[09:30] <Grimm3> so i am in mu UEFI setup , and i found this setting 'launch EFI shell from filesystem device' , is that something usefull for my quest of installng windows 7 and ubuntu ?
[09:31] <wim66> Serus: Engels (US, internationaal met dode toetsen)
[09:31] <wafflejock> buu: not sure exactly about it triggering the apt-get part but basically it's just looking for executable scripts and binaries on your path that match
[09:31] <hitsujiTMO> Serus: set it to dutch for now. you can easily change it later
[09:31] <buu> command_not_found_handle
[09:31] <Serus> wim66, I'm in english ubuntu ^^, but that isn't completely the right one.
[09:32] <simonsimcity> I have a problem that seems to be quite strange ... I installed a fresh VM with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and set up the network env ...
[09:32] <simonsimcity> Once in a while, the DHCP client jumps in and changes the IP address back ....
[09:32] <ItsMeLenny> i'm trying to compile http://fsv.sourceforge.net/ on 12.04 precise and i get configure: error: Cannot find proper GTK+ version and  checking for GTK - version >= 1.2.1... no, any help would be much appreciated
[09:32] <simonsimcity> after waiting for maybe 3min, it switches back, to what I configured as static-IP ...
[09:33] <hitsujiTMO> Serus: ask about the layout in #ubuntu-nl
[09:33] <simonsimcity> I just see, that sendmail is active at that time ...
[09:33] <simonsimcity> Anyone had this problem before?
[09:33] <hitsujiTMO> simonsimcity: how are you setting the ip?
[09:34] <Serus> hitsujiTMO, OK :)
[09:35] <simonsimcity> hitsujiTMO: I updated the /etc/network/interfaces file and restarted network-interface.
[09:35] <simonsimcity> Would you like to see a copy of that?
[09:35] <hitsujiTMO> simonsimcity: what ubuntu is this? server or desktop?
[09:35] <simonsimcity> hitsujiTMO: Ubuntu Server
[09:35] <DarsVaeda> is there any fix or workaround for the apple io7 trust issue available yet?
[09:35] <moondoggy> Has anyone had errors with Perl doing a dist-upgrade on 12.04 recently?
[09:36] <hitsujiTMO> simonsimcity: can you pastebin the interfaces config so please
[09:36] <Grimm3> im in the windows 7 install menu ,  just to be sure , i take the x64 architecture , not the x86 ?
[09:37] <Ben64> Grimm3: windows 7 install menu?
[09:37] <Grimm3> yeah fresh install of windows before i will install ubuntu , like i was saying earlier
[09:37] <Grimm3> just dont want to mess up here alreay
[09:37] <Ben64> well you should ask ##windows about windows stuff
[09:37] <Serus> Grimm3, most of the time it depends on the RAM you have
[09:38] <Grimm3> 8 gig ddr3 ?
[09:38] <simonsimcity> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/AxnbS0kb
[09:40] <Grimm3> ben64, im asking this here as i am in the process of installing windows 7 AND ubuntu on this machine with UEFI setup , and ive had a very hard time failing at this in the past , so i rather ask everything here now to be sure , please dont feel offennded
[09:40] <Serus> Grimm3, x64
[09:40] <Grimm3> ok thx
[09:41] <hitsujiTMO> simonsimcity: that eth0:1 looks wrong. why is it a different network? you using bridged networking or nat?
[09:42] <simonsimcity> hitsujiTMO: I use NAT. But I can't see what this does to the problem here. This network is stable. It's just eth0, that switches back to the ip-address this machine had during installation of Ubuntu.
[09:42] <simonsimcity> I also have another machine with exactly the same setup (different Ubuntu-version) that has the same network-settings. I don't have that kind of problems there...
[09:42] <Grimm3> in the partition table , it now created 100mb system reserved partition , and the rest of that SSD is fully for windows , primary. Is that ok , do i have to create that EFI thing here already or no worries ?
[09:43] <simonsimcity> ->network-setup I mean :)
[09:43] <hitsujiTMO> simonsimcity: have you installed network-manager or anything else similar?
[09:43] <veryhappy> hey guys, i know you're all reading and writing a lot and might miss something, but please take of this question that i already wrote before a while: can i anywhere get the bfq scheduler for ubuntu? cause i'm using this scheduler on my android phone and i'm very happy about it but linus torvalds "doesn't want to have to do with more than one kernel" like he stated.
[09:43] <veryhappy> thanks
[09:44] <simonsimcity> hitsujiTMO: If it was installed by default, yes :) Haven't installed anything like that by knowing ...
[09:44] <Serus> hitsujiTMO, It's installed, what should I do now?
[09:45] <hitsujiTMO> simonsimcity: can you comment out the eth0 and eth0:1 completely and see if it gets an ip after rebooting
[09:45] <Serus> answering my own question: "reboot"
[09:45] <Serus> Awesome it got added to the EFI boot menu
[09:45] <Serus> Other distros can learn from this. (Looking at you linux mint)
[09:46] <Grimm3> serus, im at that partition table to install windows , anything special i have to look here in order to install ubuntu later ? it located 100mb syste reserved and the rest of the SSD is the main partition to install windows on. Nothing ele i got to fix here now ?
[09:46] <hitsujiTMO> Serus: if you want you can customise the efi boot menu entry (change it from ubuntu)
[09:46] <Grimm3> second HDD is just unallocated space for the moment
[09:47] <hitsujiTMO> Grimm3: just 2 partitions?
[09:47] <simonsimcity> hitsujiTMO: nope - just the loopback-network that's loaded now ...
[09:48] <ddaaa> guys, how do I change the default apps in ubuntu?
[09:48] <ddaaa> they keep reverting back whenever I restart my computer
[09:49] <Grimm3> currently for the install of windows first . disk 0 partition 1 = 100mb system reserved , disk 0 partition 2 = 111.7gig primary ,     disk 1 unallocated space 931gig (this drive will get one partition for ubuntu , and another 500gig partition for data acesible from all os)
[09:49] <Grimm3> or should i make those partitions for ubuntu now already ?
[09:49] <hitsujiTMO> simonsimcity: hmm, odd issue so, does the issue happen with just the eth0:1 commonented out?
[09:49] <k3rv1n> Can someone who's running 13.10 do me a favor and run this?... dpkg -S `ldd /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-datetime-service | grep libical.so.1 | cut -f3 -d' '` | head -1
[09:50] <hitsujiTMO> simonsimcity: or does it happen if you set the name of the virtual interface to eth0:0 instead of eth0:1
[09:50] <k3rv1n> I'm trying to track a bug that's preventing my clock applet from displaying
[09:50] <Serus> Grimm3, which OS will you be using more?
[09:50] <Serus> Depending on that make the windows partition smaller or bigger.
[09:51] <k3rv1n> it seems my indicator-datetime-service is link against libical.so.0 and also libical.so.1 but my Ubuntu cames with libical.so.1 only
[09:51] <Grimm3> hard to say , both of them , windows for gaming and heavy software like video editing or 3d modelling , linux for 'daily' computing , like writing , internet
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> Grimm3: blender is good for 3d modelling etc
[09:51] <Grimm3> so i thought to allocate the entire SSD for windows , as the more demanding and large software would run from windows
[09:52] <Serus> Grimm3, Then I would make windows bigger.
[09:52] <Serus> Oh you have 2 harddrives
[09:52] <hitsujiTMO> grimm3: if windows is not making a 3rd partition then your installing as mbr not efi. leave ubuntu set up it's own partitions
[09:52] <Grimm3> yup , its the entire SSD now for windows
[09:52] <Grimm3> ok windows is not making that 3h partition. so i dont allocate anything yet for ubuntu , we will deal with that when i try to install ubuntu ?
[09:53] <Serus> Grimm3, Yes.
[09:54] <Grimm3> cool , installing windows started , and now for a smoke
[09:54] <Serus> Grimm3, Just do as you said, windows on SSD and ubuntu on the other hdd
[09:54] <hitsujiTMO> grimm3: yeah, worry about the ubuntu partitions when your installing ubuntu. you can't specify linux filesystems in the windows installer so there's no point in setting it now
[09:54] <Serus> I'm rebooting.
[09:54] <Serus> brb
[09:54] <Grimm3> allright , damm you guys are smart
[09:55] <Grimm3> im quite tech savy if it comes to windows , and my entire family knows when to reach me when something is wrong on windows , but if i get to these things , i feel such a dumb nooob
[09:57] <hitsujiTMO> grimm3: you learn from doing it again and again :P    making mistakes is the best way to learn
[09:58] <Grimm3> thats true !
[09:59] <Grimm3> noooooooooooo
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> why not ubuntu and windows on the ssd with user data, /var and swap on the platter based drive?
[09:59] <Grimm3> windows cannot install required files , the file may be corrupt or missing
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> ant windows swap and %temp% on the platter too
[09:59] <Grimm3> so my usb disk didnt write properly
[10:00] <Grimm3> damm you windows , damm you unetbootin
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> Grimm3: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[10:00] <Serus> hitsujiTMO, IT WORKED!!!!!
[10:00] <Grimm3> nope :( lets do that now
[10:00] <Serus> WOOT
[10:00] <Grimm3> Omg your in serus ? you actually have them both running ?
[10:01] <Serus> Grimm3, Not sure if win7 is broken now :p
[10:01] <Serus> But I think so
[10:01] <Grimm3> so there is ligth at the end of the tunnel ! hopefully..
[10:01] <Serus> There is
[10:01] <hitsujiTMO> !yay | serus
[10:02] <Serus> Holy.. I wanted to type I've and this is what I got. ǘ
[10:02] <Serus> wtf is that O.o
[10:02] <Grimm3> sanskrit ?
[10:03] <hitsujiTMO> serus: did you choose US - international?
[10:03] <Serus> Gnash or adobe? (I care about what works best)
[10:03] <Serus> hitsujiTMO, Yes.
[10:03] <hitsujiTMO> Serus the tick key is acting as a modifier key
[10:04] <Serus> I know
[10:04] <Serus> But it works a bit different in windows as you can mix languages there.
[10:04] <Grimm3> o great , bootmrg is missing
[10:04] <Serus> I can also mix languages on the raspberry pi
[10:04] <marlo> \j #showoff-db
[10:05] <hitsujiTMO> serus: adobe don't support linux anymore. if you install chrome you get the flash pepper plugin which is the best one available
[10:05] <simonsimcity> hitsujiTMO: Adding it as eth0:0 didn't help ... will now try to disable it ...
[10:05] <vasislav> HELP
[10:05] <Serus> hitsujiTMO, Iḿ using FF
[10:05] <vasislav> intel 6205 wifi is giving me PROBLEMS
[10:06] <vasislav> its using the iwlwifi driver and "11n_disable=1" does not work
[10:06] <vasislav> is there some firmware?
[10:06] <hitsujiTMO> serus: i've no experience with gnash. but the adobe installer will install a slightly older flash player
[10:07] <Serus> I'll try gnash
[10:08] <dannymichel> so ubuntu 13.10 is QT now, which means gtk3x themes wont work very well on it to change my theme, so where do i get ubuntu 13.10 themes?
[10:08] <hitsujiTMO> vasislav: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[10:08] <vasislav> 13.10
[10:08] <vasislav> Ubuntu Studio XFCE
[10:08] <linuxuz3r> is there skype for ubuntu
[10:08] <linuxuz3r> so dumb
[10:09] <hitsujiTMO> vasislav: is it working at all?
[10:09] <vasislav> yes but hangs all the time
[10:09] <vasislav> have to keep reloading pages
[10:09] <dannymichel> linuxuz3r, http://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-linux/
[10:09] <hitsujiTMO> linuxuz3r: yes, you can get it from skype webiste
[10:09] <lecoeus>  Serus: i recommend that you do not try gnash
[10:09] <vasislav> switched hard drive to something with ath9k driver (atheros card) and its perfect
[10:09] <Serus> lecoeus, why not?
[10:09] <vasislav> meaning a machine with atheros instead of intel 6205
[10:09] <vasislav> switched card to intel 6300, problem persisted
[10:09] <lecoeus> it's a free replacement for flash from the fsf but it is not perfect
[10:10] <lecoeus> and when i say not perfect, i mean it is barely usable sometimes and not usable other times
[10:10] <olf-folks> ok long story short i installed ubuntu server followed by xinit and openbox  my sound is not working
[10:11] <hitsujiTMO> vasislav: that's an old enough wireless card so you're prob on a decent driver for it. For issues like that it's simplest to just replace the card for one with better linux support
[10:11] <olf-folks> i installed alsa-utils  when i go to run alsamixer it says cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[10:11] <vasislav> hitsujiTMO, don't all intel cards have 11n problems?
[10:11] <vasislav> its gotten worse ever since kernel 3.5
[10:12] <vasislav> problem started in 3.8 kernel
[10:12] <hitsujiTMO> vasislav: anyone i've seen has had to disable n
[10:12] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, i installed the server edition like you said with the same results btw
[10:12] <vasislav> and in 3.11 is bad
[10:12] <dannymichel> so ubuntu 13.10 is QT now, which means gtk3x themes wont work very well on it to change my theme, so where do i get ubuntu 13.10 themes?
[10:12] <linuxuz3r> how do i install deb pkgs?
[10:12] <vasislav> disabling N only cut the problem in half
[10:12] <vasislav> ping become 250 instead of 560
[10:12] <olf-folks> linuxuz3r,  dpkg -i package.deb
[10:13] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: so you installed: alsa and alsa-utils right?
[10:13] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: then you need to add yourself to the sound group and relog
[10:13] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, i installed alsa-utils is alsa a septate package?
[10:14] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: yes you need to install alsa and alsa-utils
[10:14] <Grimm3> hey , im again trying to install windows , but this time it made 2 extra partitions , one system , one MSR , and then the primary windows partition  Is that this EFI partition talked about earlier ?
[10:14] <paperke67> Hi everybody, I cann't get my Atheros Wireless Network Adapter to work. Searched the net for several days. Could not find solution. See http://paste.ubuntu.com/6363869/
[10:14] <Grimm3> ( installing windows first before installing ubuntu , before i get shot here...)
[10:14] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, ok it says alsa is already newest ver
[10:15] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: once that is done add your user to sound group: sudo usermod -aG audio username                     make sure you do "-aG"
[10:15] <vasislav> HP in all its BRILLIANCE puts a wifi card LIST in the bios, so only approved cards will boot, otherwise it says to shutdown and remove the "unapproved" wifi card
[10:15] <vasislav> for elitebooks
[10:15] <vasislav> like some PROFITEERING GLUTTONS!
[10:16] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, ok i added myself to the group
[10:16] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: then try alsamixer again
[10:16] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[10:17] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: can you pastebin the exact output of: alsamixer
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> vasislav: pays to shop smart then :)
[10:18] <vasislav> i do!
[10:18] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, it works as root maybe i need to relogin after adding my self to sound?
[10:18] <vasislav> but... but... i like those navpoint thing
[10:18] <Grimm3> hitsujiTMO, when im trying to install windows now , it created 3 partitions on the SSD , one 100mb system reserved , one 128mb MSR (reserved) , and then the primary partition. Is the MSR partition that EFI thing ? Is it ok like this ?
[10:18] <vasislav> only HP and Lenovo seem to make the pointer in the keyboard thing
[10:18] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: yes you need to relog for groups to take place
[10:18] <olf-folks> kkbrb
[10:18] <hitsujiTMO> grimm3: cool that first one should be the efi system partition
[10:19] <Grimm3> so just let be and install windows ?
[10:19] <vasislav> I"LL BE BACK, just wait for me here...
[10:19] <hitsujiTMO> grimm3: msr is probably BCD. yes install windows away
[10:20] <Grimm3> ok sweet ,  found the liveCD and a usb dvd drive , the live USB didnt create 3th partition
[10:20] <olf-folks> ok now alsamixer is working
[10:21] <Serus> Grimm3, Ofcourse it didn't
[10:21] <Gnik> QUIT
[10:21] <Grimm3> sounds like logic in your world , :D I have no idea whats going on hahahaha
[10:22] <paperke67> Need help. I'm not able to install my Atheros (AR5212/AR5213) wifi card. Can anybody help?
[10:22] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: make sure master is not muted. m key will mute unmute it
[10:23] <simonsimcity> hitsujiTMO: Do you know what those entries in the dmesg could mean? http://pastebin.com/KYKLz4Xf Think it has something to do with the problem, even so it didn't occur again until now.
[10:25] <Grimm3> ok i got to go to the doctor now , ill let windows install meantime , when im back ill start the ubuntu process ,thank you for all advice already !
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> paperke67: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[10:26] <hitsujiTMO> simonsimcity: i'm not up on apparmor but i believe you must tell it to configure it with a profile before it will act upon anything. if you haven't configured one then it should not be causing you an issue.
[10:27] <hitsujiTMO> simonsimcity: i could be wrong on that if there are default configurations set tho
[10:27] <vmachine> is it possible to open up a file in nano without the comment lines?
[10:27] <thomson112> does skype work on 13.10?
[10:29] <ljunggren> How is there no triplebuffer support for Linux?
[10:29] <ljunggren> Now when Steam for linux is released that should really come in handy
[10:31] <hitsujiTMO> simonsimcity: hmm, just looked at my apparmor config files and there does seem to be some sort of default config there for dhclient
[10:31] <paperke67> ActionParsnip : Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> thomson112: should do, yes
[10:32] <DanielFew> If I wanted a user jailed in SFTP to say /home/network/directory, but needed them to be able to execute a file in SSH that's located in /home/network, what's the best way to go about doing this? Also the file they are executing in /home/network needs to be able to read and write to /home/network and /home/network/directory
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> paperke67: if you run:  sudo iwlist scan    do you see wireless networks?
[10:32] <paperke67> ActionParsnip: yes I do.
[10:33] <hitsujiTMO> ljunggren: steam for linux was released a long time ago, and there is triple buffering available on linux. usually you have to enable it seperately
[10:33] <buu> DanielFew: Uh, symlinks?
[10:33] <hitsujiTMO> ljunggren: nvidia of ati?
[10:34] <ljunggren> hitsujiTMO, ati, can't find the settings anywhere and ive google it also =/ you know something?
[10:34] <ljunggren> hitsujiTMO, lack of it makes all my games totaly unplayable thou
[10:35] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, sound seems to not be working still
[10:36] <paperke67> ActionParsnip: this is output of scan http://paste.ubuntu.com/6363961/
[10:38] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, but when i unmute "PCM" and aplay a mp3 it makes a static noise from my speakers haha
[10:39] <hitsujiTMO> ljunggren: forced tripple buffering seems to be removed from CCC. most games should have an option to enable triple buffering but you usually must have vsync enabled first
[10:40] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: can you take a screenshot of the alsamixer. and can you give me a pastebin of: aplay -l
[10:42] <_dot> hello, does anyone else have problem locking user in his home directory with vsftpd ?
[10:42] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.debian.net/64072/  and i dont know how to take a screenshot in ubuntu server with openbox
[10:43] <ljunggren> hitsujiTMO, no game i tested have this option, foolishnes to remove that from CCC :(
[10:43] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.debian.net/64073/ hope this works
[10:44] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: you'll need to install something to take a sceenshot. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Taking_a_Screenshot just install the equivalent ubuntu package
[10:45] <olf-folks> i pasebined the alsamixer http://paste.debian.net/64073/
[10:45] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: unmute whatever master m    is
[10:46] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, ok i did and it says master mono
[10:46] <yeyeman> what is plymouth?
[10:47] <yeyeman> I got 4 crashes when I logged in right now
[10:47] <ianmac1> !plymouth
[10:47] <yeyeman> time to chop some heads
[10:48] <yeyeman> well maybe it's not so wise to uninstall it then
[10:48] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: try changing the default pcm device to 4 in /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf
[10:48] <ianmac1> yeyeman, good thing you asked first
[10:49] <hitsujiTMO> yeyemen . plymouth can usually be safely uninstalled. it's a recommended package not a dependant
[10:50] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, ok done
[10:50] <yeyeman> it's just that there are few things I hate more than pop ups after login
[10:50] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: reboot and try again then
[10:51] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, ok ill be back
[10:52] <Jpmh> how do I disable the colors in vi ?
[10:53] <_dot> hello, does anyone else have problem locking user in his home directory with vsftpd ?
[10:55] <hitsujiTMO> _dot: you're more likely to get help if you actually describe the problem
[10:56] <malinus> this should be installed with ubuntu: http://qntm.org/suicide
[10:56] <_dot> hitsujiTMO: i am using vsftpd and i'd like to lock user to his home directory, but it does not work he can list all other directories
[10:57] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | malinus and wouldn't work as linux protects you from running rm -rf /
[10:58] <Kartagis> hi
[10:58] <malinus> hitsujiTMO, it does? you mean you have to be root to run it, right?
[10:58] <hitsujiTMO> malinus: sorry, ubuntu does... but yeah even as root it should not work
[10:59] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, was there anything else?
[10:59] <Unkn0wn>  exit
[10:59] <louis__> hjoh
[10:59] <malinus> hitsujiTMO, I don't feel like trying, what kind of error would I get?
[11:00] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: enter alsamixer again and make sure master is unmuted
[11:00] <olf-folks> if 00 means unmuted then yeah
[11:01] <Kartagis> yesterday, I attempted to install cinnamon, but now there is nothing on my desktop. can I switch to gnome somehow. there is no "logout" either so I can't do it from there
[11:01] <hitsujiTMO> till no sound?
[11:01] <Danato> is anybody available to help me with an installation issue?
[11:01] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: still no sound?
[11:01] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, nada
[11:02] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: what are you trying to play?
[11:02] <olf-folks> i have 2 mp3s and a wav and i also tryed chromeium-browser youtube and a few other things
[11:02] <Danato> ill wait till theres somebody available
[11:03] <louis__> golmjhfjhnpioj
[11:03] <louis__> ,; ,:k nxnkb
[11:03] <clijnen> ffkldfhh
[11:03] <louis__> yo
[11:03] <clijnen> yo
[11:03] <Kartagis> Danato: ask your real question
[11:03] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: hmm. what are you terying to play them with aplay?
[11:03] <louis__> bla
[11:03] <clijnen> bla
[11:03] <louis__> spelletje spelen,
[11:03] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, the 2 mp3s and the wav file
[11:03] <ragok> hi all
[11:04] <louis__> sex
[11:04] <louis__> andµ
[11:04] <DJones> louis__: Please stop that, this is a support channel
[11:04] <Fudge> Hi after upgrading some packages on a natty system ssh now gives this error
[11:04] <Fudge> Last login: Fri Oct 25 11:42:15 2013 from <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:04] <Fudge> /bin/bash: No such file or directory
[11:04] <louis__> drugs
[11:04] <louis__> en rock n roll
[11:04] <ragok> how to run a webcam in ubuntu
[11:04] <louis__> ok
[11:04] <louis__> you put them in the dishwasher
[11:04] <Fudge> anyone have any ideas what could becausing this
[11:04] <louis__> and then you try again
[11:04] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: but you're using aplay to try and play them?
[11:05] <Danato> Kartagis: Im trying to install ubuntu but its not recognizing any of my partitions, it shows the whole disk as free space
[11:05] <olf-folks> louis__, the bannhammer will get you if you dont be careful
[11:05] <clijnen> don't listen to louis_
[11:05] <ragok> answer my question  how to run a webcam in ubuntu
[11:05] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, yeah i tryed aplay
[11:05] <louis__> dont listen to clijnen, he is a virgin
[11:05] <clijnen> louis_ is gay
[11:05] <Fudge> ragok  bit rude, usually they just work, look at lsusb output to see if it has been detected
[11:06] <ragok> can u explain me further fudge
[11:06] <Fudge> Danato  single hard drive?
[11:06] <cheesecakes> ragok: you could optionally use cheese
[11:06] <Fudge> ragok  open a console or gnome terminal and type lsusb and look for something like your webcam
[11:06] <cheesecakes> start it and you should see video
[11:06] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: can you screenshot / pastebin alsamixer again
[11:06] <ragok> i did but it did not display anything dude
[11:07] <Kartagis> ragok: create a /etc/modprobe.d/uvcideo.conf and put the line options uvcvideo something=16 (I don't remember what the "something" is)
[11:07] <Fudge> lol
[11:07] <cheesecakes> wtf is happening here
[11:07] <cheesecakes> lolz
[11:07] <ragok> wat do u want to happen cheesecakes
[11:08] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.debian.net/64078/
[11:08] <cheesecakes> ragok: people behaving themselves
[11:08] <ragok> but iam and i dont know about others dear
[11:08] <Danato> Fudge: sory for taking too long, i was on the phone. so yeah, ive got win 7 installed in my pc, but it doesnt even see that with ubuntu live cd
[11:08] <Danato> *sorry
[11:09] <_dot> hello i am using vsftpd and i'd like to lock user to his home directory, but it does not work he can list all other directories
[11:09] <Danato> my laptop came pre-installed with windows 8.1, I uninstalled and installed windows 7 btw
[11:10] <cheesecakes> ragok: opening a query is not called behaving yourself
[11:10] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: can you put defaults.pcm.device 0 back in /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf and post the contents of /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf
[11:10] <Jumuri> is the NSA listening on this conv?
[11:10] <cheesecakes> Jumuri: yes
[11:10] <Jumuri> this is important
[11:10] <Pumpkin-> who knows, maybe !
[11:10] <ragok> hello r u thrthen u teach me
[11:10] <Jumuri> im being attacked by a giant beaver
[11:10] <Jumuri> nooooooooo
[11:11] <DJones> Jumuri: Please stay on topic, this is Ubuntu support only
[11:11] <ragok> cheesecake teach me the manners
[11:11] <IdleOne> Please stop with the nonsense, this is a support channel. Not a playground
[11:11] <phix> what's the go with the cyrus package?  I turn on altnamespace and unixheirarchy and when I create a folder it tried to create it at the root of the entire cyrus mail directory instead of within the user I am logged in as
[11:11] <phix> or would this be a mutt issue?
[11:11] <ragok> u do ur work idleone
[11:12] <DJones> ragok: Stop that. Please stay on topic which is Ubuntu support
[11:12] <IdleOne> ragok: I am, part of that work is to try and keep this channel sane enough for people to get support.
[11:12] <malinus> hecking gpg signature of some software I download. Shouldn't I just be able to do gpg --verify *.asc *.tar.xz ?
[11:12] <malinus> I just get gpg: Signature made Thu 12 Sep 2013 08:16:39 AM CEST using RSA key ID 969276F5  gpg: Can't check signature: public key not foun
[11:12] <malinus> *checking
[11:12] <ragok> k then tell me how to access my webcam in ubuntu 13.10
[11:13] <IdleOne> install the application called cheese and test it
[11:13] <ragok> i have tested but niothing happned
[11:13] <DJones> ragok: Please be patient, it would help if you can give details of the make & model of webcam etc first, give the details to the channel and hopefully somebody will be able to help
[11:14] <DJones> ragok: Also pastebin the results of "lsusb"
[11:14] <ragok> mine is hp all in oine model and it is fine with  my win 7 dude
[11:14] <Emay> Hi, I'm hoping to get some support on installing ubuntu 14.02.3 am I in the right place?
[11:15] <cheesecakes> Emay: yes
[11:15] <Danato> im also waiting for that Emay
[11:15] <DJones> Emay: There is no such thing as 14.02.3
[11:16] <Emay> I'm new to linux and im having no luck installing
[11:16] <ragok> dude waht abt my problem djnes
[11:16] <Emay> ok, maybe that's my problem
[11:17] <IdleOne> ragok: your first problem is your txt typing, please use proper English in here. Second, you need to give more details
[11:17] <ragok> man u suck f--k --f
[11:17] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.debian.net/64082/
[11:17] <Emay> I got the link froma reliable friend which was to the ubuntu website & the file I dl was ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-amd64
[11:17] <Danato> cool down man
[11:17] <Kartagis> hi again
[11:18] <Danato> so how can i solve my problem? ubuntu doesnt recognize any partitions in my pc
[11:19] <Kartagis> I installed cinnamon yesterday but now there is nothing on my desktop now. how can I switch back to gnome?
[11:19] <Danato> ive tried the solution from this page and it ddnt work http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1604074&page=4
[11:19] <cheesecakes> Kartagis: log out and while entering password to log in , click on the ubuntu logo and choose gnome/unity or what ever you want to use
[11:20] <Kartagis> cheesecakes: I can't logout, the icon is gone
[11:21] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: are you getting noise when running: speaker-test -c 2
[11:21] <CatKiller> d
[11:21] <cheesecakes> Kartagis: do you see the menu button?
[11:21] <Jumuri> Kartagis: the same thing happend to me :)
[11:21] <Jumuri> use command shutdown -h now
[11:22] <cheesecakes> Kartagis: no!
[11:22] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: ctrl + c to cancel the noise btw
[11:22] <Kartagis> cheesecakes: by "there is nothing on my desktop" I mean "there is NOTHING on my desktop"
[11:22] <cheesecakes> Kartagis: ok
[11:22] <cheesecakes> Kartagis: are you talking from a second computer?
[11:22] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, OMG static :D we have made progress
[11:22] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: what type of partitions are they?
[11:22] <pers3us> Hey Guys! I am trying to find out what all devices (removable storage) are connected to my system, no matter mounted or unmounted. What is the best way to do so?
[11:22] <Kartagis> cheesecakes: just the wallpaper
[11:23] <cheesecakes> Kartagis: i see
[11:23] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: ok. seems alsa is able to output to your speakers alright.
[11:23] <Kartagis> cheesecakes: I'm on MacOS now
[11:23] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, and to think i was about to slam my face on the desk and pull he power cable out of my computer
[11:23] <cheesecakes> Kartagis: is ubuntu another partition on the same system?
[11:23] <eraggo> pers3us: lsusb is one way (if them are usb storages)
[11:23] <Kartagis> cheesecakes: yes
[11:23] <Kartagis> cheesecakes: dualboot
[11:23] <cheesecakes> Kartagis: do you have auto -login enabled?
[11:24] <cheesecakes> Kartagis: if not you can change the window manager while logging in
[11:24] <Kartagis> cheesecakes: sadly, yes
[11:24] <pers3us> eraggo: This shows a lot of stuffs which aren't additional storages.
[11:24] <cheesecakes> Kartagis: otherwise, change to another tty(ctrl+alt+f1), then login using your name and password
[11:24] <cheesecakes> Kartagis: then run this command:service lightdm restart
[11:24] <pers3us> eraggo: Which is kind of expected, as some internal devices are also connected via usb
[11:24] <cheesecakes> Kartagis: i think that will log you out
[11:24] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: It had windows 8.1 pre-installed and i formated the whole disk to NTSF to install windows 7
[11:25] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO,  so if i can make static why cant i make music or other sounds?
[11:25] <Kartagis> cheesecakes: can I somehow change the auto-login system whilst in the root shell?
[11:25] <Kartagis> or recovery
[11:25] <eraggo> pers3us: yup. No idea how to show only storage devices
[11:25] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: have a look again in alsamixer: keep going right to see if there's other important channels that need unmuting.
[11:25] <cheesecakes> Kartagis:i dont know the way sorry
[11:25] <Emay> I'm trying to install ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-amd64. At the first purple screen (with options like check disc integrity) my usb KB is working & I can navigate just find to install ubuntu. It then loads to another screen giving me the options again to Try or install, but my KB is no longer working.
[11:26] <cheesecakes> Kartagis: this is easy right?
[11:26] <Kartagis> service lightdm restart, got it
[11:26] <Kartagis> brb
[11:26] <Kartagis> thanks
[11:26] <cheesecakes> Kartagis:just add sudo in front
[11:26] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, i unmuted everyting
[11:26] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: you in the live cd now?
[11:26] <Danato> yes
[11:26] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: aplay again
[11:27] <cheesecakes> Kartagis: dont forget sudo
[11:27] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, ok it works now
[11:27] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: can you tell me the output of: sudo fdisk -l
[11:27] <hitsujiTMO> !yay | olf-folks
[11:28] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, thanks a ton!
[11:28] <hitsujiTMO> np
[11:28] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: ill put in pastebin for you
[11:29] <Emay> can anyone help?
[11:29] <Danato> hitsujiTMO:  http://pastebin.com/GhqqbEwc
[11:29] <mjayk> Emay: whats up
[11:30] <Emay> I'm trying to install ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-amd64. At the first purple screen (with options like check disc integrity) my usb KB is working & I can navigate just find to install ubuntu. It then loads to another screen giving me the options again to Try or install, but my KB is no longer working.
[11:30] <Emay> I have never use linux b4, so it's realy been hard to troubleshoot on my own
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> Emay: what video chip are you using?
[11:31] <eraggo> it is used by mouse Emay ... jk
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> Emay: or chips
[11:31] <Emay> Geforce GT 630
[11:31] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: looks like its visible alright. when you booted the usb did you boot as USB:device name    or UEFI:device name ?
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> Emay: does the system use a switchable GPU (Ivy/Sabybridge Intel CPU)?
[11:32] <Emay> No idea
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> Emay: try the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[11:33] <vijaya> can anyone tell me how to crosscompile "arora" for arm....
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> Emay: same method, different option :)
[11:33] <Emay> & I have a UEFI bios, so I have tried changing all from UEFI to Legacy only
[11:33] <Danato> hitsujiTMO:  cant tell for sure, is there a way to check that? because i ddnt have that option, and i used a dvd
[11:34] <vijaya> can anyone tell me how to crosscompile arora for arm....
[11:35] <Emay> I will try the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1 & see how it goes, tyvm
[11:36] <hitsujiTMO> Donato: not sure how dvds boot options work. Ok, in what way does the installer not see windows partitions?
[11:36] <yeyeman> anyway to change the start up loading screen? purple is getting kind of old
[11:38] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: is this 32bit or 64bit ubuntu btw?
[11:38] <Danato> hitsujiTMO:  its 64bit
[11:39] <Danato> hitsujiTMO:  ok when i choose the option Something else, it shows me a table. On device /dev/sda it only shows free space
[11:39] <Danato> hitsujiTMO:  the whole disk space is shown free
[11:40] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: Thats either a bug in the installer, or ubuntu cannot work with a gpt filesytem that has an mbr bootstrap
[11:41] <Danato> hitsujiTMO:   do you think this can solve the problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1705325
[11:43] <suigeneris> hi
[11:43] <Kitar|st> http://www.twitch.tv/kitarist88 right now i'm playing Call of Duty: Ghosts so if you are interested please join in!!!
[11:43] <DJones> Kitar|st: Please don't use this channel to advertise, its purely a support channel for Ubuntu
[11:44] <suigeneris> cheesecakes: this is kartagis. I tried sudo lightdm restart but it did no good :S
[11:44] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: possibly: but that could also damage your windows install. it does fit the issue that you are having
[11:44] <suigeneris> btw, I'm on ubuntu now (irssi)
[11:45] <MrQuist> Kitar|st, your dog dies.
[11:45] <suigeneris> should I uninstall cinnamon? or is there a package called cinnamon-desktop?
[11:46] <suigeneris> Jumuri: how did you fix your issue?
[11:46] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: your main issue seems to be that you've a gpt partition scheme, but you've installed windows as if you're using mbr.
[11:47] <suigeneris> brb
[11:47] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: is there a way to fix that?
[11:48] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: the tool you mentioned seems to be built for such a task, but i've never testedd it or seen it before, so I don't know if it's reliable
[11:49] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: it seems that it has worked for some ppl, so id like to give it a shot, but im being able to install it
[11:50] <Danato> i went to the download page http://sourceforge.net/projects/gptfdisk/files/gptfdisk/0.8.8/fixparts-binaries/
[11:50] <ze_pistolas> ola povo... daqui fala da UBI... é so para avisar que quero é bola baixa aqui no canal!! e Fedora RULLEZZZ!!!
[11:51] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: and downloaded the amd64.deb one but it fails to install
[11:51] <ze_pistolas> FEDORA
[11:51] <ze_pistolas> FEDORA
[11:51] <ze_pistolas> FEDORA
[11:51] <FloodBot1> ze_pistolas: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:51] <vijaya> is there any one can help in qt application cross compiling
[11:51] <vijaya> for arm
[11:51] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: whats the error?
[11:52] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: (Reading database ... 100%
[11:52] <Danato> (Reading database ... 161628 files and directories currently installed.)
[11:52] <Danato> Unpacking fixparts (from .../tmp/fixparts_0.8.8-1_amd64.deb) ...
[11:52] <Danato> dpkg: error processing /tmp/fixparts_0.8.8-1_amd64.deb (--install):
[11:53] <Danato> does that mean that its already installed?
[11:53] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: no. broken .deb file more likely. can you try redownload it?
[11:54] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: ok
[11:56] <Emay> Hi, someone suggested to me to try the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1 to help solve a USB issue. For some reason (I must be doing something wrong) I can't get it to install with boot options
[11:57] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: if that doesn't work try an earlier release: http://sourceforge.net/projects/gptfdisk/files/gptfdisk/0.8.7/fixparts-binaries/fixparts_0.8.7-2_amd64.deb/download
[11:57] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: yeah it ddnt work. I will
[11:58] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: same error :/ btw im using Ubuntu Software Center
[11:59] <suigeneris> cheesecakes: are you there?
[12:00] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: can you try install it from command line: sudo dpkg -i /tmp/fixparts_0.8.8-1_amd64.deb
[12:00] <suigeneris> jordan: maybe you can help me? you helped me in the past
[12:02] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: dpkg: error processing fixparts_0.8.8-1_amd64.deb (--install):
[12:02] <Danato>  trying to overwrite '/usr/sbin/fixparts', which is also in package gptfdisk 0.8.8-1
[12:02] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: seems to be installed already so :P
[12:03] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: ah ok then :)
[12:04] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: follow the instructions here ... including backing up your current table
[12:04] <hitsujiTMO> http://www.rodsbooks.com/fixparts/
[12:04] <suigeneris> who can help me switch back to GNOME?
[12:04] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: I was already at it, thanks :)
[12:07] <cheesecakes> suigeneris: ????
[12:07] <mjayk> suigeneris: what do you mean do you still have gnome installed
[12:07] <Emay> I can't install ubuntu via CD as USB KB stops working by the 2nd install screen. I have tried installing via windows (where my KB & mouse work) but fails everytime a few secons into installing. Anyone have any suggestions?
[12:08] <mjayk> Emay: you've got me stumped are you using any usb hubs like the usb ports on the front of the case ?
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> Emay: did you try unplugging and replugging in the keyboard?
[12:08] <suigeneris> cheesecakes: I did sudo lightdm restart, but it did no good
[12:08] <Emay> Mjaka: No, im using rear ports
[12:08] <cheesecakes> mjayk: cinnamon is hanging on him, for some reason, and he wants to change his window manager
[12:09] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: on the first backup step i got this error "bash: parts.txt: Permission denied"
[12:09] <suigeneris> (this is kartagis by the way)
[12:09] <cheesecakes> suigeneris: can you tell me what happened when you did that?
[12:09] <cheesecakes> suigeneris: i figured :)
[12:09] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: I already tried using sudo before the command btw
[12:09] <mjayk> Emay: not a usb 3.0 port or anything like that ?
[12:10] <Emay> Mjayk: I did notice in the install log via windows repeated errors eg: checking whether D:\ is a valid Ubuntu CD wrong version: 12.04.3 != 12.04.2
[12:10] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: where are you trying to save parts to?
[12:10] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: where are you trying to save parts.txt to?
[12:10] <cheesecakes> suigeneris: are you in ubuntu right now or another OS
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> Emay: did you try unplugging and replugging in the keyboard?
[12:10] <cheesecakes> suigeneris: it would be better if you can do both
[12:10] <cheesecakes> suigeneris: i mean get a second machine to help you walk through it
[12:10] <Emay> Mjayk: No I double checked that I was only using the USB 2.0 ports
[12:10] <suigeneris> cheesecakes: went back to desktop, still no icons. I'm on ubuntu cli, irssi
[12:11] <cheesecakes> ok good
[12:11] <cheesecakes> give me a second
[12:11] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: try: sfdisk -d /dev/sdc > ~/parts.txt
[12:11] <suigeneris> cheesecakes: I'll get a second machine as soon as wife is done with hers
[12:11] <Emay> ActionParsnip: I have tried different ports. I even bought a new wired USB KB today as my other was wireless
[12:11] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: I never specified the path, i guess i should
[12:12] <cheesecakes> suigeneris: this is also fine too
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> Emay: have you set the usb ports to legacy mode in BIOS?
[12:12] <cheesecakes> suigeneris: in the desktop does alt+f2 work?
[12:12] <cheesecakes> does it give you run command?
[12:12] <suigeneris> nope
[12:12] <suigeneris> actually, let me see again
[12:13] <Emay> ActionParsnip: Yes, my bios is UEFI, so I changed all to Legacy only
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> suigeneris: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue     is Cinammon hanging?
[12:13] <cheesecakes> ActionParsnip: yup cinnamon is hanging
[12:13] <cheesecakes> he can see the wallpaper nothing more
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> cheesecakes: are you the one with the issue?
[12:13] <Emay> ActionParsnip: Also as suggest in the install guide to try disabling Legacy. None of these options work
[12:13] <taofuyu> hello
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> cheesecakes: ah, that clarifies :)
[12:13] <cheesecakes> ActionParsnip: no, sorry
[12:13] <cheesecakes> i was just helping
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> cheesecakes: no worries, just wanted to make sure I was targetting correctly :)
[12:14] <cheesecakes> :)
[12:14] <taofuyu> ?
[12:14] <cheesecakes> suigeneris: you back?
[12:14] <taofuyu> yes
[12:14] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: /dev/sdc: No such file or directory
[12:14] <Danato> sfdisk: cannot open /dev/sdc for reading
[12:14] <cheesecakes> taofuyu: is that you suigeneris?
[12:14] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: /dev/sda for your drive
[12:15] <suigeneris> no alt+f2 doesn't work
[12:15] <cheesecakes> suigeneris: ok here's what you do
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> suigeneris: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue    please, you can press CTRL+ALT+F1   and run it there
[12:15] <suigeneris> ActionParsnip: 13.10
[12:15] <olf-folks> openbox seems to not be starting ~/.config/openbox/autostart.sh
[12:15] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: when you're done that can you pastebin the contents of parts.txt
[12:16] <taofuyu> 有中国的吗
[12:16] <chemist> hello hitsujiTMO
[12:16] <chemist> what's up
[12:16] <hitsujiTMO> chemist: hey
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> suigeneris: thats not the output
[12:16] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: It jst says permission denied
[12:16] <chemist> hitsujiTMO i was wondering if you could help me out with something
[12:16] <taofuyu> 有中国的吗
[12:16] <taofuyu> 我想请教个问题
[12:16] <hitsujiTMO> chemist: spill away what the issue is
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> suigeneris: it is a bit more complex than that
[12:17] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: sudo sfdisk -d /dev/sda > ~/parts.txt                    that giving the permission denied error?
[12:18] <hitsujiTMO> !cn | taofuyu
[12:18] <chemist> i'm using a windows vst-plugin with my ubuntu-studio ... i managed to get the plugin loaded and ready to play... i now need to load the instrument kits which are located on my wine c-drive ... but the application that uses the plugin in linux can not access this folder
[12:18] <chemist> is there a way to make a folder in my home folder that points to that folder on my wine disk?
[12:18] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: ah it worked with sudo
[12:18] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sda'! The util sfdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted.
[12:18] <chemist> so that i don't have to copy/paste all those filex
[12:19] <hitsujiTMO> chemist: ahh, i've no experience with wine tbh.
[12:19] <debnoob> I am mounting an ext4 internal hdd partition with udisks. It mounts but but only root has write access. I tried the following commands : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6364324/
[12:19] <chemist> hitsujiTMO the issue is that the application i use for making music can not access hidden folders.... (./wine) so i can not specify the location of my instrument kits
[12:19] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: can you pastebin the full contents of the parts.txt
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> debnoob: tried mounting using 'mount' instead...?
[12:20] <tirengarfio> I have to give the port of my monitor for a vnc connection, since I have two monitors, after installing vnc, I get this: VNC Display :0 corresponds to TCP port 5900, VNC Display :1 corresponds to TCP port 5901. How can I know what is my display 0 and my display 1?
[12:20] <geirha> debnoob: sudo chown "$USER:" /media/dev # after it is mounted
[12:20] <hitsujiTMO> chemist: can you not symlink to the folder? does it follow symlinks?
[12:20] <chemist> the question: is there a way to point a folder to that location? .... similar to mounting a disk in /media ?
[12:21] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: sure
[12:21] <taofuyu> closed
[12:21] <taofuyu> ubuntu 13.10
[12:21] <taofuyu> 64bit
[12:21] <chemist> hitsujiTMO nevermind...i managed to make it work :D
[12:22] <debnoob> ActionParsnip, geirha: I wanted to do the mounting inside a shell script, so sudo is not an option.
[12:22] <chemist> i just realized i haven't got any kits installed ;DDDDDDDD stupid
[12:22] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/DPh7UxA2
[12:22] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: give me a minute and ill be back
[12:22] <geirha> debnoob: setting uid/username during mount is something you do with FAT and NTFS, since they don't support unix permissions. ext4 support unix permissions, so you change the ownership and permissions using chown and chmod to the desired ownership and permissions
[12:23] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: looks like its a mbr partition layout allright ... just stuck with a gpt signature
[12:23] <suigeneris> sorry, baby cried
[12:23] <suigeneris> ActionParsnip: have to quit irssi then, just a sec
[12:24] <geirha> debnoob: The sudo chown command I showed earlier is a one-time thing. Afterwards, it will be owned by your user.
[12:24] <debnoob> geirha: but wouldn't that need root
[12:24] <debnoob> geirha: doesn't udisk remove the mount point once its unmounted
[12:25] <cheesecakes> suigeneris: so any progress?
[12:25] <suigeneris> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[12:25] <geirha> debnoob: probably, but that's irrelevant
[12:25] <indistylo> Yes
[12:26] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: try running fixparts now: sudo fixparts /dev/sda                     once that's done reboot and make sure windows still works. then boot the installer and see if it's fixed
[12:27] <geirha> debnoob: After doing the sudo chown on it (while it's mounted), next time you mount it, it will have that (new) ownership still.
[12:27] <TrD> hi all
[12:27]  * cheesecakes afk
[12:27] <geirha> debnoob: regardless of which user initiates the mounting
[12:27] <Emay> Maybe someone could look at my log file, it may explain why it's failing the install?
[12:28] <Rory> Sure Emay put it on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[12:29] <Emay> Rory: Ty, pated
[12:29] <Emay> Pasted*
[12:29] <debnoob> geirha: It worked! thanks, didn't think the folder would hold the permission once unmounted. Looks like a feature of ext
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> suigeneris: tried something like XFCE as a desktop? You can install it by installing xfce4 package
[12:30] <geirha> debnoob: This is common for unix-y filesystems. It's FAT and NTFS and similar that are exceptions
[12:30] <Rory> Emay: Waiting
[12:31] <Rory> Emay: You have to actually tell me what the URL is, I'm not a magician :)
[12:31] <debnoob> geirha: been a win guy for so long :)
[12:31] <geirha> debnoob: Since they don't support unix permissions and ownership, you instead say during mounting that all files shall be owned by foo and have mode 644 etc
[12:31] <suigeneris> ActionParsnip: no, not yet. I'm now trying to recover by doing what you are telling me. let me try that
[12:31] <Emay> Rory: Sorry, new to IRC & Linux http://paste.ubuntu.com/6364380/
[12:31] <suigeneris> brb
[12:32] <Rory> Emay: Can you fill me in on some background to your problem, that looks like Windows stuff to me
[12:32] <Hounddog> Hello, i am not able to start my desktop anymore after trying to install fglrx and removing it again...
[12:33] <debnoob> geirha: my thought was the permission of mountpoint is only stored on the root filesystem. but now i know.
[12:33] <Hounddog> its directly login me in qt commqndline
[12:33] <Emay> Rory: I had 1st tried to install via USB & CD. At the 2nd install screen my USB KB stops working. I also tried via windows which fail short way through install (the log is from the windows install).
[12:34] <Rory> Emay: Do you mean using Wubi?
[12:34] <Emay> Rory: via the widows install, yes
[12:34] <hounndo_2> Hello, i am not able to start my desktop anymore after trying to install fglrx and removing it again...
[12:34] <gcds> Hello, I need good HTTP proxy server for production use, maybe with even filtering and so on
[12:35] <hounndo_2> it is directly login me in to the commmandline and am a bit lost how to restore things again
[12:35] <Rory> Emay: It looks like Wubi is failing to download the disk image somehow. I'd recommend doing a "real" install (booting from a USB or CD) rather than using Wubi, because it can cause weird problems later down the line, has restrictions on total install size, and has theoretical performance issues
[12:35] <Rory> !md5 | Emay can you verify your installation .iso before burning it?
[12:37] <Emay> Rory: I did try via USB & CD install 1st. But my KB only works in the 1st part (with options like check disc integrity) then loads another screen with the options again to try or install, this is where my KB stops working
[12:37] <sssssdfr> ciao!list
[12:38] <cfhowlett> wubi is for TESTING not for long-term installation.
[12:38] <Emay> Rory: Yes, the USB failed, but the CD was verified
[12:38] <Rory> Emay: Do you have access to another keyboard?
[12:38] <cfhowlett> Emay, usb's do fail frequently and without warning ...
[12:38] <sssssdfr> no
[12:38] <hitsujiTMO> Emay: how did you create the usb?
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> hounndo_2: what ATI GPU do you have?
[12:39] <Emay> Rory: I have a wireless KB, so I bought a brand new wired USB KB today, same thing
[12:39] <Emay> & no, I didn't check the MD5 Checksome
[12:39] <hitsujiTMO> emay: you need to md5 sum the iso to make sure it was downloaded correctly
[12:40] <Emay> Thank you, I will try that now.
[12:41] <hounndo_2> ActionParsnip:i have Hd 7950
[12:41] <Danato_> hitsujiTMO: are you still there?
[12:41] <hitsujiTMO> Danato_: yes
[12:41] <troulouliou_dev> hi i have to repo for the same packets; hoiw can i set the pinning in preferences on one repos ?
[12:42] <hitsujiTMO> Danato_: have you tried running fixparts yet?
[12:42] <perish> hello
[12:43] <Danato_> hitsujiTMO: isnt that what I trying to do when it told me that Ive got no permission for that?
[12:43] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: try running fixparts now: sudo fixparts /dev/sda                     once that's done reboot and make sure windows still works. then boot the installer and see if it's fixed
[12:43] <Danato_> hitsujiTMO: ah wait that was the backup
[12:43] <suigeneris> would things be fixed if I reinstalled gnome?
[12:44] <perish> anyone can tell me how to install ATI driver for HD2600 on 12.04lts?
[12:44] <suigeneris> !ati | perish
[12:45] <Danato_> hitsujiTMO: ill be pasting what im finding on pastebin
[12:45] <suigeneris> forget it, I'm reinstalling ubuntu
[12:46] <cfhowlett> !ati
[12:46] <suigeneris> brb
[12:49] <troulouliou_dev> is it a good pinning filter : Pin: origin ppa.launchpad.net/noobslab/mint/ubuntu/
[12:49] <Danato_> hitsujiTMO: http://oi43.tinypic.com/x1j4tl.jpg
[12:50] <Discordian93> hello
[12:50] <Discordian93> I need some help with the propietary nvidia drivers
[12:50] <cfhowlett> !nvidia|Discordian93,
[12:50] <gaetan> Bonjour
[12:50] <cfhowlett> gaetan, greetings
[12:50] <Discordian93> I have installed nvidia-current and now ubuntu won't boot unless I go from the recovery mode screen
[12:50] <hitsujiTMO> Danato_: just hit w .... then reboot and try and boot to windows
[12:51] <gaetan> Oh sorry, forgot this chat is in english
[12:51] <hitsujiTMO> Danato_: if that works you should be able to install ubuntu propperly from the installer then
[12:51] <hadifarnoud> I just discovered hashcat. I understand it can crack WPA/WPA2 hashs too. how can I get WPA hash anyway? I'm going to experiment on home wifi
[12:53] <Danato_> hitsujiTMO:  that will overwrite existing partitions. . .
[12:53] <Danato_> hitsujiTMO:  ill still do it :P
[12:53] <hounndo_2> can anyone help me to get my desktop back after removing fglrx?
[12:53] <hitsujiTMO> Danato_: it overwrite the table. you havent changed the partitions
[12:53] <Discordian93> ubottu: that page is of no help, my problem isn't listed
[12:54] <TrD> i'm using Ubuntu 12.04LTS i want ti activate my second Wifi adapter (usb dongle)
[12:55] <Danato_> hitsujiTMO:  done
[12:55] <TrD> i installed ndiswrapper and the driver
[12:55] <hitsujiTMO> Danato_: restart and hope windows boots :P
[12:55] <Danato_> hitsujiTMO:  everything is still there, ill try to boot windows, then use the life cd again
[12:56] <Danato_> hitsujiTMO:  ok hehe
[12:56] <TrD> but Ubuntu dont enable this adapter
[12:56] <Discordian93> can't anybody help me? I have this really bizarre problem where ubuntu won't boot unless I do it from recovery mode after installing the nvidia driver, but the nvidia driver does work once I boot from recovery mode
[12:56] <TrD> anyone can help me ?
[12:57] <hitsujiTMO> !nomodeset | Discordian93
[12:58] <hitsujiTMO> Discordian93: is the nomodeset doesn't work, come back to us and we'll try a few other things
[12:58] <Discordian93> kk, though according to that thread, nomodeset shouldn' be needed for the propietary drivers, but I'll try anyway
[13:01] <perish> where to find a driver for ati hd2600 for ubuntu12.04lts?
[13:01] <Emay> Hi, someone suggested that I do a MD5Sum check, I did and it said it was correct. So I am still unsure why I can't install
[13:02] <hitsujiTMO> perish: it should be in the repos. Goto System Settings -> Software & Updates -> Additional Drivers
[13:02] <hitsujiTMO> EmayL what tool are you using to create the bootable USB
[13:03] <Discordian93_> kthx guys, nomodeset worked
[13:03] <hitsujiTMO> Discordian93_: if its working then there's a chance that its not actually using the proprietary drivers. have a look in Xorg.0.log t see what driver is being used
[13:03] <Emay> Universal-USB-Installer-<IP_ADDRESS> after a few times getting an error I tried CD
[13:03] <perish> it keeps searching for eternity
[13:03] <Rory> Emay: As well as checking the integrity of the .iso file, it's important to check the burn was correct - when you first boot from the CD or USB, there'll be a purple screen with a keyboard symbol at the bottom - press any key to access a menu. One of the options will be to verify the integrity of the install medium
[13:04] <Discordian93_> where is that file?
[13:04] <hitsujiTMO> Emay: that has issues for most people. Try using linux live usb or unetbootin.
[13:04] <Rory> Emay: My favourite is this tool http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
[13:04] <ActionPa1snip> Emay: also burn as slowly as you can
[13:04] <hitsujiTMO> Discordian93: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[13:05] <perish> damn
[13:05] <Emay> Rory: That is the screen where my KB still works & I did run the check CD integrity. The USB integrity did fail, not the CD
[13:05] <perish> anyone please tell me is there really a driver for ati hd2600 for ubuntu 12.04lts
[13:05] <Discordian93_> I don't understand that file, but the final line is [    50.405] (**) NVIDIA(0):     been enabled on all display devices.)
[13:06] <hitsujiTMO> Emay: most likely the problem is caused by universal usb installer. Most people that have been on here that have used it have had issues.
[13:06] <ActionPa1snip> perish: there is a legacy ppa fglrx
[13:06] <Rory> perish: A driver is included with Ubuntu, already installed
[13:06] <Discordian93_> so i guess that means the nvidia driver is active?
[13:06] <ActionPa1snip> pathy: https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx
[13:06] <perish> action:where to find that?
[13:06] <hitsujiTMO> perish: As I've already said. it should be in the repos. Goto System Settings -> Software & Updates -> Additional Drivers
[13:07] <ActionPa1snip> perish: knew you'd ask....people don't tend to search the web these days
[13:07] <Emay> hitsujiTMO: I am not using a USB hub, im using the rear USB 2.0 ports
[13:07] <perish> for your information for 2 days im searching for an working driver...
[13:07] <perish> bit cant find any
[13:07] <hitsujiTMO> Emay: not saying anything about a hub. talking about the software used to create the usd installer. try linuxliveusb.com
[13:08] <perish> they are not getting installed
[13:08] <hitsujiTMO> Discordian93_: can you post the contents of the Xorg.0.log file in pastebin
[13:08] <Emay> hitsujiTMO: I just realised I read it wrong sorry, ok I will try linuxliveusb.com
[13:11] <Discordian93> http://pastebin.com/zPQb6E2P
[13:11] <Discordian93> that's my Xorg.0.log
[13:12] <hitsujiTMO> Discordian93: yes it seems to be using the proprietary driver alright
[13:13] <hitsujiTMO> Discordian93: you may need to look at the nomodeset instructions again to permanently enable nomodeset
[13:13] <Discordian93> Oh, I used the instruction for doing so permanently
[13:13] <Discordian93> else it wouldn't work after rebooting
[13:14] <hitsujiTMO> Discordian93: ah cool. you should be set so
[13:14] <Kitar|st> http://www.twitch.tv/kitarist88 right now i'm playing Call of Duty: Ghosts so if you are interested please join in!!!
[13:15] <hounndo_2> looks like i can only reinstall stuff... no matter what i am trying, i am not able to boot to desktop only to commandline
[13:15] <jrib> Kitar|st: that's not appropriate for this channel
[13:17] <suigeneri> hi
[13:18] <cfhowlett> suigeneri, greetings
[13:18] <suigeneri> reinstalled ubuntu and disabled auto-login just in case
[13:18] <Booga> yes Hello
[13:20] <dol> is there anyone who can help me with the alsa configuration?
[13:20] <Discordian93> well, thanks for everything, checked again another way and yup, i'm running the propietary driver. Hopefully now I'll be able to run DOTA 2 in peace.
[13:20] <Booga> Yes
[13:21] <hounndo_2> Discordian93:lol i also was trying for dota
[13:21] <hounndo_2> or still am... but my system is screwed currently not able to boot to desktop at all anymore
[13:21] <Booga> Yes I can help with ALSA config.
[13:22] <dol> Booga, I have a PCM hw type and I want to upscale my rate
[13:22] <Discordian93> hounndo_2: that sucks man.  I do have qt4 and its version is 4.8.4 but install quits saying minimum required is 4.6.0
[13:24] <dol> Booga, check this: http://pastebin.com/YNfamhnX
[13:24] <dol> so, I want to upscale the rate to 44800 for 0,3 hw
[13:24] <user82> does anyone have experience with wine regedit? do i need to point it to the windows path of the mounted drive, to mess with a existing windows registry?
[13:25] <hounndo_2> Discordian93:thats when i gave up and tried removing it again and now i am stuck on console
[13:26] <dol> Booga?
[13:26] <Booga> Yes
[13:26] <dol> have you checked my config file?
[13:26] <hounndo_2> reconfigure xserver-xorg also just tells me it is not installed
[13:27] <Discordian93> hounndo_2: sorry man :(. I specifically bought nvidia because it works well with linux, have ran ubuntu for a year with no trouble until a couple of days ago. I guess you'll have to backup and reinstall, sometimes the xserver gets completely totalled and there's no way to restore it, happened to me a couple of times when i ran ATI
[13:27] <hounndo_2> would be great if anyone would be willing to help
[13:27] <Booga> Hav u checked it under the terminal command
[13:27] <hitsujiTMO> hounndo_2: how did you install and uninstall the drivers?
[13:27] <hounndo_2> apt
[13:28] <Booga> alsamixergui?
[13:28] <hounndo_2> hitsujiTMO: using apt
[13:28] <hitsujiTMO> hounndo_2: can you run: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && dpkg --get-selections | pastebinit
[13:29] <Booga> mkokl
[13:29] <Booga> Dol?
[13:30] <hounndo_2> seems i cannot run that...
[13:30] <Booga> ggyh
[13:30] <hitsujiTMO> hounndo_2: whats the error?
[13:30] <dol> Booga, I don't have alsamixergui
[13:31] <hounndo_2> not using locking for readonly lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[13:31] <hitsujiTMO> dol, booga: alsamixer
[13:31] <Booga> Can you install it?
[13:31] <dol> I have alsamixer and everything is unmuted
[13:31] <dol> Booga, it will take too much time because I am actuially running in another operatuing system
[13:31] <hitsujiTMO> hounndo_2: and you have no gui?
[13:32] <hounndo_2> none whatsoever
[13:32] <adamk> hounndo_2: Are you running dpkg or apt-get in another terminal?
[13:32] <Booga> Check the master sound settings and if not, check your cables.
[13:32] <hounndo_2> nope
[13:33] <hounndo_2> i am only running 1 terminal not connected through ssh or anything
[13:33] <adamk> hounndo_2: Is it somehow possible for you to pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file?
[13:33] <dol> Booga, I guess you didn't get my question. My question is just how to convert the rate to another rate in asound.conf
[13:33] <McManiaC> any idea why my tmux wont show 256 colors in vim properly, even though i already setup TERM=screen-256color (shown by echo $TERM)?
[13:33] <hounndo_2> well it will take a while as i would need to manually copy it
[13:34] <hitsujiTMO> hounndo_2: can you reboot and try: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[13:34] <dol> hitsujiTMO, do you know how I can convert the rate in asound.conf?
[13:34] <adamk> hounndo_2: If you are unable to install pastebinit with apt-get, but you aren't running running another other package management utility, there's something wrong with your system.  Try rebooting and installing pastebinit.
[13:34] <hitsujiTMO> dol: fraid not, never messed with alsa in that way
[13:35] <dol> ok thanks
[13:35] <dol> I tried #alsa irc but noone helps there
[13:35] <hounndo_2> i just rebootet and am now able to install it, even though before it was also freshly rebootet
[13:37] <hitsujiTMO> hounndo_2: install pastebinit and then: dpkg --get-selections | pastebinit
[13:37] <hounndo_2> hitsujiTMO:http://paste.ubuntu.com/6364683/http://paste.ubuntu.com/6364683/
[13:37] <hounndo_2> ups
[13:37] <hounndo_2> hitsujiTMO:http://paste.ubuntu.com/6364683/
[13:37] <hitsujiTMO> hounndo_2: alst: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[13:38] <ActionPa1snip> hitsujiTMO: waste of a cat, pastebinit can take files as input.  pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log    will work too
[13:38] <hitsujiTMO> ActionPa1snip: ahh didn't realise. thanks
[13:39] <hounndo_2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6364698/
[13:39] <hitsujiTMO> hounndo_2: fglrx is still installed. what gpu do you have?
[13:39] <hounndo_2> Ati Radeon hd 7950
[13:39] <adamk> hounndo_2: Which driver are you trying to use: fglrx or radeon?
[13:39] <wedgetail> Hi guys, i need help. i installed Ubuntu studio using Windows USB Creator. I have used it a few times and now when start it up it asks for a password?? I did not use a password. Anybody know this problem??
[13:40] <cfhowlett> wedgetail, you sure you didn't set a pwd on the usb?
[13:40] <cfhowlett> and what are you doing to invoke the pwd request?
[13:41] <wedgetail> yes cf i am sure
[13:41] <goldstar> hi guys, in my applications, when hovering over a menu item, either nothing shows or the menu drops down but no text. Pls advice
[13:41] <goldstar> i am using saucy
[13:41] <hounndo_2> adamk:was trying to use fglrx
[13:41] <hitsujiTMO> hounndo_2: the radeon driver doesn't support your gpu. you were probably running fglrx in the first place
[13:42] <cfhowlett> wedgetail, so in the LIVE session, you get a password request
[13:42] <wedgetail> just loading cf
[13:42] <hounndo_2> hitsujiTMO:could be.
[13:42] <hitsujiTMO> hounndo_2: what version of ubuntu is this?
[13:42] <cfhowlett> wedgetail, you mean on booting the USB?
[13:42] <wedgetail> yes
[13:43] <cfhowlett> wedgetail,  so you have NOT installed studio to your HDD, right?
[13:43] <adamk> hounndo_2: Can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file ?
[13:43] <hounndo_2> 12.04.3 LTS
[13:43] <wedgetail> yes after booting right as the program is about to start at the desktop
[13:43] <goldstar> anyone?
[13:43] <cfhowlett> wedgetail, by any chance, are you using the windows installer/wubi?
[13:43] <wedgetail> no, not on hdd
[13:44] <wedgetail> no
[13:44] <hitsujiTMO> hounndo_2: can you try sudo apt-get install --reinstall fglrx         failing that you may need a later driver
[13:44] <cfhowlett> wedgetail, not normal behavior.
[13:45] <wedgetail> i know i installed yesterday and have used it a dozen times, but now it wants a password??
[13:45] <hounndo_2> adamk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6364717/
[13:45] <cfhowlett> wedgetail, I'm behind the great firewall, so my speeds are throttle.  search ubuntu + live + session + password      OR wipe the USB and create a new one
[13:45] <hounndo_2> hitsujiTMO:just a moment
[13:45] <adamk> hounndo_2: Did you modify that by hand?  It's a typical xorg.conf file generated by aticonfig, but with radeo ninstead of fglrx.
[13:46] <cfhowlett> wedgetail, wait, do you have persistence on the USB?  were you running update or something?
[13:46] <wedgetail> will do cf, thanks for your help and have a good day
[13:46] <hounndo_2> i did not modify anything there
[13:46] <cfhowlett> wedgetail, or if you shutdown improperly that would make it act funky
[13:46] <adamk> hounndo_2: Well someone/something did :-)
[13:46] <adamk> hounndo_2: Change that file so that it loads the fglrx driver instead of the radeon driver.
[13:46] <wedgetail> i do have persistance, but no updates yet
[13:47] <neurosnap> o7
[13:47] <User1985> Hello folks
[13:47] <wedgetail> did a proper shut down. always do as i am fussy about that
[13:47] <cfhowlett> wedgetail, yeah, you really have to be careful with not pulling the USB before it's COMPLETELY exited and shutdown.  otherwise strange things happen
[13:47] <User1985> I desperately need some help to mount a NTFS partition :s
[13:47] <hounndo_2> adamk just reinstalled fglrx also and rebooting
[13:47] <cfhowlett> wedgetail, so maybe actually install US to the HDD?
[13:47] <hounndo_2> and back to commandline
[13:47] <hounndo_2> ...
[13:48] <adamk> hounndo_2: Just make sure that xorg.conf file says to use the fglrx driver and not the radeon driver.
[13:48] <cfhowlett> wedgetail, or if you want to only test further, install virtualbox on windows, and put US in the virtual machine
[13:48] <hounndo_2> adamk:did that
[13:48] <hitsujiTMO> hounndo_2: check the xorg.conf again
[13:48] <adamk> hounndo_2: So pastebin your new /var/log/Xorg.0.log file.
[13:48] <adamk> hounndo_2: And xorg.conf file.
[13:48] <hitsujiTMO> hounndo_2: it may be the case that you need a newer fglrx that whats in the repo
[13:48] <User1985> "The NTFS partition is in an unsafe state. Please resume and shutdown
[13:48] <User1985> Windows fully (no hibernation or fast restarting), or mount the volume
[13:48] <User1985> read-only with the 'ro' mount option.
[13:48] <User1985> " This is the message I get and I do not know what to do :s
[13:48] <FloodBot1> User1985: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:48] <wedgetail> i need it it on usb for security reasons. I have it also on the hdd and windows alongside
[13:49] <adamk> hitsujiTMO: Let's wait till he's actually using the fglrx driver before we tell him he might need a newer one.
[13:49] <wedgetail> i will try the search as you suggested. thanks cf
[13:49] <cfhowlett> User1985, reboot windows and shut it down properly.  It's only in hibernate so ubuntu won't mess with it
[13:49] <hitsujiTMO> adamk: sorry your right
[13:50] <User1985> cfhowlett : here's the thing. I do not have windows installed and I cannot for some reason.
[13:50] <cfhowlett> User1985, (and I hate myself already for asking ...) what?  why?
[13:51] <hounndo_2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6364741/     http://paste.ubuntu.com/6364764/
[13:51] <cfhowlett> User1985, but you DID have windows at some point, right?  format the HDD and reinstall.
[13:51] <cfhowlett> format to kill any last windows artifacts
[13:51] <User1985> Yesterday, I did a clean install of windows on a dell XPS 14 and this morning, it refused to boot.
[13:52] <cfhowlett> User1985, I'm betting UEFI issues.  the fact that you have NTFS means you had windows and STILL have the windows partition.
[13:52] <cfhowlett> !uefi
[13:52] <User1985> Dell told me this morning they will change the HDD because it might be dead but still, I see the partitions in Ubuntu live and I need to access them so that I can backup my date.
[13:52] <hounndo_2> hitsujiTMO: adamk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6364741/     http://paste.ubuntu.com/6364764/
[13:53] <adamk> hounndo_2: Well at least you're attempting to use the fglrx driver now...  But it's encountering a serious crash.
[13:53] <hounndo_2> jup
[13:53] <User1985> Yes, I still have them, but some reason, it won't boot and whenever I try to reinstall Windows, the HDD doesn't show.
[13:53] <cfhowlett> User1985, so boot a live cd/usb in Read Only mode as was suggested by the error message.  copy your date to another usb.
[13:53] <User1985> It only show on a ubuntu live CD
[13:53] <User1985> I'm not sure how to do that.
[13:53] <cfhowlett> User1985, U - E - F - I issues.  windows 8, rigth?
[13:53] <cfhowlett> right?
[13:53] <adamk> hounndo_2: Can you run 'dmesg | pastebinit' ?
[13:54] <User1985> cfhowlett : I don't think so cause it used to work flawlessly. Plus, I am using legacy, not UEFI
[13:55] <cfhowlett> User1985, so, as the error message said, mount read only.  copy to another usb.  done.
[13:55] <hounndo_2> adamk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6364769/
[13:55] <cfhowlett> !mount
[13:55] <hounndo_2> thx for your help btw, am loosing my mind over this
[13:55] <User1985> I don't know how to do that :s
[13:56] <cfhowlett> User1985, read the link.  gtg
[13:58] <adamk> hounndo_2: Unfortunately I'm not sure there's much guidance I can give here.  The kernel module is getting loaded, xorg is attempting to use the fglrx driver (along with the fglrx drm module and fglrx glx module).  That all looks like it should.  Then suddenly the driver crashes. By all accounts, it looks like a bug in the driver.
[13:58] <hounndo_2> well t only started failing after i started messing with it
[13:59] <User1985> cfhowlett: this is the error message (http://bayimg.com/IAcHOaaFA) and this is what I did (http://pastebin.com/Ns75i9L7)
[13:59] <User1985> There is my masters thesis on that drive :s
[13:59] <adamk> hounndo_2: So this worked out of the box initially?  You were probably using the radeon driver.
[14:00] <adamk> hounndo_2: You could remove fglrx entirely and try with radeon again. I do not know if 3D acceleration is available for that GPU with the radeon driver currently installed, but I *believe* it is in the latest version of Ubuntu.
[14:01] <hounndo_2> adamk:yes it was working out of the box, then i thought lets try steam and it told me to run fglrx updates and such... and now i am here
[14:01] <hounndo_2> latest would be 13.x right?
[14:01] <suigeneris> I am trying to install kvirc. it says no qt4 or qt5 found. I do have qt4 and its version is 4.8.4 but install quits saying minimum required is 4.6.0
[14:01] <User1985> Please help me :s
[14:01] <suigeneris> shouldn't build-dep retrieve qt as well?
[14:01] <adamk> hounndo_2: Latest is 13.10, though it might work in 13.04.  What version are you using?
[14:01] <hounndo_2> maybe try a dist upgrade then?
[14:01] <suigeneris> the first time I tried (cmake ..) it said -- Found Qt4: /usr/bin/qmake (found suitable version "4.8.4", minimum required is "4.6.0")  CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:403 (message):   No Qt4 or Qt5 found!. when I tried with -DWANT_QT4=1, it said   The use of Qt4 has been forced, but no Qt4 found on the system   (WANT_QT4=ON)
[14:02] <hounndo_2> adamk 12.04.3
[14:02] <suigeneris> can you help me guys?
[14:02] <hitsujiTMO> hounndo_2: you graphics card was only released about 2.5 months before 12.04 so compatible drivers may not have made it in to the repos on time
[14:03] <angs> in order to have pcap.h library, what package do I need to install? I tried libpcap-dev but it did not work
[14:03] <adamk> hounndo_2: Personally, I'd upgrade unless there's a specific reason you need to stick with 12.04.  In any case, the first thing I'd do is uninstall fglrx and switch back to the radeon driver.
[14:03] <hounndo_2> adamk am upgrading right now
[14:04] <hounndo_2> or not...
[14:04] <hounndo_2> ack i should have allocated more space for linux...
[14:04] <hitsujiTMO> hounndo_2: is a clean install feasable?
[14:04] <User1985> Please Help me, I need to mount an "unsafe" NTSF partition without Windows :s
[14:05] <hounndo_2> hitsujiTMO: if i want to loose all my work yes... so on that note propably no
[14:05] <hitsujiTMO> hounndo_2: try remove fglrx and delete the xorg.conf to get back to the vesa driver
[14:08] <Guest28556> hi
[14:08] <krabador> Guest28556, you're not properly anonymous
[14:09] <neurosnap> lol
[14:09] <Xz> hi
[14:09] <mozybonz> heh
[14:11] <hounndo_2> hitsujiTMO: am just trying that now i have no disk space anymore... need to allocate some more first... il get back later maybee
[14:14] <kblin_web> hi folks
[14:15] <kblin_web> I'm trying to grab the davfs2 package from universe, but while it's listed on packages.ubuntu.com, I can't find it via apt-cache search
[14:16] <hitsujiTMO> kblin_web: is the universe repo enabled?
[14:16] <deav> Has anyone had any experience with Lenovo keyboards not responding after the login screen in 13.10?
[14:16] <Fudus> try another update , one of your mirrors might be down
[14:17] <Fudus> it shows up for me in 13.10: Candidate: 1.4.6-1ubuntu3
[14:17] <rokka> hello. is it possible to edit which mounts can bee seen from landscape-sysinfo?
[14:18] <kblin_web> hitsujiTMO: there's a deb line for it in my sources.list
[14:18] <zloo> how can i see the contents of an apt package?
[14:19] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: im back, it worked! Thanks for everything man
[14:19] <Fudus> kblin_web, doing another update doesn't help?
[14:19] <Fudus> zloo, right click and open in archive manager
[14:19] <zloo> Fudus: i don't have a file, just the name for apt-get
[14:19] <hitsujiTMO> !yay | Danato thanks for pointing that tool in my direction. I'll know that one for when others have similar problems in the future.
[14:20] <riccio> ciao
[14:20] <riccio> !list
[14:20] <Fudus> look it up in packages.ubuntu.com, then list of file contents
[14:20] <riccio> hallo
[14:20] <riccio> !lista
[14:20] <dcope> hey all, are monit questions allowed in here?
[14:20] <ObrienDave> !it
[14:20] <hitsujiTMO> kblin_web: if the universe is not commented out then try switching to another set of repos
[14:22] <kblin_web> Fudus: I tried, doesn't seem like it.
[14:22] <kblin_web> hitsujiTMO: I'll give that a shot, maybe my mirror is bad
[14:22] <riccio> !list
[14:22] <riccio> !alis
[14:23] <hitsujiTMO> is ubuntu italian for warez or something? because soo many italians come here and !list
[14:23] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: good to know it can be helpful to someone out there. Cheers
[14:24] <kblin_web> hitsujiTMO: ok, switching to another mirror seems to have fixed it
[14:25] <kblin_web> thanks for the tip :)
[14:25] <suigeneris> hitsujiTMO: could be
[14:26] <suigeneris> can you guys help me install kvirc?
[14:27] <kblin_web> hitsujiTMO: funny thing is that switching back to my old mirror also works... weird.
[14:27] <excognac> suigeneris: yes
[14:28] <hitsujiTMO> kblin_web: hehe that's weird alright
[14:28] <hitsujiTMO> suigeneris: sudo apt-get install kvirc
[14:28] <excognac> suigeneris: open Terminal sudo apt-get install kvirc
[14:29] <suigeneris> hitsujiTMO, excognac: I'm trying to install from SVN, version in the repo is too old
[14:29] <StrangeNoises> when oh when oh when will the startup disk creator work properly?

[14:30] <hitsujiTMO> suigeneris: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[14:30] <DrGrov> Hello. 13.10 running with Unity. I have the top bar everything as intended but not the power button so I can shutdown. How can I fix it back?
[14:30] <suigeneris> StrangeNoises: it has always worked properly for me
[14:30] <hitsujiTMO> StrangeNoises: 13.10?
[14:30] <hitsujiTMO> suigeneris: there's a bug in the 13.10 SDC
[14:30] <suigeneris> hitsujiTMO: right now, 13.04
[14:30] <gustavnikolaj_> Hi. My toppanel in Unity has turned unresponsive. It shows the wrong alt-menus when I hover it, and I cant interact with it nor the icons near the clock. It's a fresh 13.10 running unity. the launcher is working. I couldnt find any mentions of similar issues on google. Anyone with any ideas?
[14:30] <hitsujiTMO> suigeneris: try unetbootin instead
[14:30] <suigeneris> sdc?
[14:31] <hitsujiTMO> suigeneris: startup disk creator
[14:31] <suigeneris> what's SDC?
[14:31] <StrangeNoises> when i say to erase disk, it asks for my password, i give it, and it fails horribly with a big ugly error message
[14:31] <StrangeNoises> have to reformat it elsewhere
[14:31] <DrGrov> I mean I do not see the power button as it was all the other times. Just now it disappared.
[14:31] <suigeneris> hitsujiTMO: oh, it is StrangeNoises who has problems
[14:31] <hitsujiTMO> suigeneris: ahh must have mis tabbed woops sorry
[14:32] <suigeneris> np
[14:32] <hitsujiTMO> StrangeNoises: try unetbootin instead
[14:32] <DrGrov> Should I do a sudo reboot or sudo halt in a terminal? Is that the only solution and see if it comes back afterwards?
[14:32] <suigeneris> !info kvirc
[14:32] <StrangeNoises> no no, i've seen this before. it works after that. i just have to use gparted or similar to format it as msdos, then erase disk in sdc works, then i can go ahead
[14:33] <StrangeNoises> that's how it was in 13.04 anyway, so far seems identical in 13.10
[14:33] <hitsujiTMO> DrGrov: rebooting works for me ... try ctrl+alt+del and logout and log back in
[14:33] <gustavnikolaj_> DrGrov: seems like the same issue that I have
[14:34] <gustavnikolaj_> It's not really an option to reboot in the middle of my working day and it is a major annoyance not being able to use the top bar at all...
[14:34]  * StrangeNoises received new ssd for the htpc today; getting ready for the reinstall, basically
[14:34] <StrangeNoises> reminds me, need to back up ~/.xbmc
[14:34] <gustavnikolaj_> My icons just do not disappear - they just do not work
[14:34] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: Ah, there is the Ctrl+Alt+Del combination and it does not force restart the computer :)
[14:34] <StrangeNoises> in theory it should just be possible to dd the whole thing across to the new disk, but bleh
[14:34] <StrangeNoises> i'd rather reinstall
[14:34] <gustavnikolaj_> StrangeNoises: nothing like a fresh install to clear the clutter :)
[14:35] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: I did not try C+A+D just since I was afraid it would force restart like in good old days of DOS LOL
[14:35] <StrangeNoises> not even that much clutter on this one
[14:35] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: Testing now.
[14:35] <StrangeNoises> was freshly installed with raring not long before saucy came out
[14:35] <StrangeNoises> ah, sdc just crashed. lovely.
[14:35] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: Ah but it does not give me the option to restart. That is strange. Just log out.
[14:36] <StrangeNoises> segv
[14:36] <hitsujiTMO> StrangeNoises: dbus communicating error?
[14:36] <StrangeNoises> that's ungood
[14:36] <kblin_web> StrangeNoises: what filesystem are you creating?
[14:36] <gustavnikolaj_> StrangeNoises: unfortunately I often see issues when dist-upgrading ubuntu. It's not debian after all :p
[14:36] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: Can I do a reboot somehow except a terminal+sudo reboot?
[14:36] <StrangeNoises> gustavnikolaj_, actually tends to go well for me, although that's because i'm used to discounting a certain amount of post-upgrade fiddling
[14:36] <hitsujiTMO> DrGrov: try logout and log back in and see if the power menu come back
[14:36] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: Ok, will do.
[14:37] <StrangeNoises> i'm not reinstalling this machine because it's got gnarly; just because i'm replacing an hdd with an ssd for its system drive
[14:37] <hillary_> kindly assist me with a command which will allow read write access  to all files and folders in /var directory
[14:37] <kblin_web> StrangeNoises: I seem to recall trouble with 13.04 trying to use btrfs for /
[14:37] <gustavnikolaj_> StrangeNoises: I make an effort to run as close to vanilla setup as possible, but still somehow manage to get in trouble. I have debian machines running without reinstalls for years - but I havent lasted more than a release for ubuntu yet :)
[14:38] <StrangeNoises> kblin_web, well, that's an exotic thing to be doing tbf
[14:38] <kblin_web> StrangeNoises: why?
[14:38] <gustavnikolaj_> Anyway, did anyone of you have any other ideas about how to fix the unresponsive top panel in unity?
[14:38] <StrangeNoises> gustavnikolaj_, for that kind of thing i actually used to really like gentoo. no such thing as a distro version upgrade
[14:38] <gustavnikolaj_> StrangeNoises: yea - rolling releases kind of do solve that problem
[14:39] <StrangeNoises> kblin_web, isn't it still rather early days for btrfs?
[14:39] <hitsujiTMO> hillary_: thats far too dangerous. what exactly do you need it for?
[14:39] <kblin_web> StrangeNoises: it's been in the mainline kernel since 2009, iirc
[14:40] <ObrienDave> i think i heard that btrfs was still experimental
[14:40] <StrangeNoises> right, here we go again, without extra space
[14:41] <StrangeNoises> i thought it was still experimental. (lots of things in mainline kernel are 'experimental' for ages. after all, wasn't it mooted to be the new default, preferred filesystem? but ext4 still is that,presumably for a reason?
[14:41] <hillary_> i have a folder in /var named elgg and i need to do modification in some files. am getting unable to save cos of writes. It is in local host
[14:41] <kblin_web> StrangeNoises: arguably the kernel doesn't have a default filesystem
[14:41] <hillary_> am customizing a site
[14:41] <StrangeNoises> i know almost nothing about btrfs btw, no axe to grind here, was just my impression of something i wasn't paying close attention to
[14:41] <StrangeNoises> well no the *kernel* doesn't, but distro-makers make their choices...
[14:42] <StrangeNoises> also, available filesystems that grub can work with can be a factor
[14:42] <kblin_web> StrangeNoises: sure. I still think it's a bit rude to allow creating a btrfs / in the installer and then crash without a hint at a later step if you simply don't want to support btrfs /
[14:42] <StrangeNoises> hm. crashed again. this isn't good
[14:43] <hillary_> if i can allow read write to all the folders  and files in the directory, it will make my work easy
[14:43] <StrangeNoises> i think i may have to make this disk in  a mac at this rate
[14:43] <hitsujiTMO> hillary_: what tool are you using to edit the files?
[14:43] <gustavnikolaj_> DrGrov: I found a way to solve your issue without rebooting: killall unity-panel-service
[14:43] <hillary_> reg edit
[14:43] <gustavnikolaj_> it will force it to restart
[14:43] <hitsujiTMO> hillary_: is it /var/www you need access to?
[14:44] <hillary_> exactly
[14:44] <hillary_> /var/www/elgg
[14:44] <StrangeNoises> heh, my cat has found a spot *behind* my monitors, where she can peek over at me.
[14:45] <maxiaojun> does anyone experience /etc/X11/X missing?
[14:45] <hitsujiTMO> hillary_: use gksudo gedit /var/www/elgg/path/to/filename
[14:47] <maxiaojun> this happened when i did some "cleaning" in ubuntu tweak, my os is 12.04 running unity 2d
[14:47] <maxiaojun> i fixed this issue myself, but after an unsuccessful logout (freeze) the issue happens again
[14:47] <hitsujiTMO> hillary_: normally you should have set /var/www to be owned by a www group and added yourself to that group followed by setting permissions g+ws on /var/www.   all that BEFORE ever adding any site code. doing so now will unfortunately break the exising sites.
[14:48] <maxiaojun> this issue is rather annoying as the observed phenomenon is that the computer boots, then black screen without any error message
[14:49] <wl-deav> hillary_ ideally you should use virtualhosts
[14:49] <hitsujiTMO> maxiaojun: sudo ln -s /usr/bin/Xorg /etc/X11/X                bizare how that could have happened
[14:49] <hillary_> <hitsujiTMO: i would mind how do i set it
[14:50] <maxiaojun> yes, i know this fix, but i wanna know what triggered the missing?
[14:50] <hitsujiTMO> hillary_: its too late now. as i said doing so will break exising sites. you need to do that before adding sites.
[14:51] <hitsujiTMO> maxiaojun: can't think of anything that would cause it to be honest.
[14:52] <uczen16> kjh
[14:52] <hitsujiTMO> maxiaojun: whats the exact tool you used? cannot find ubuntu tweak
[14:53] <uczen16> k
[14:53] <maxiaojun> http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[14:53] <StrangeNoises> aptitude search tweak
[14:53] <StrangeNoises> it's right there
[14:53] <uczen16> u can suck my balls xd
[14:54] <bekks> !language | uczen16
[14:54] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[14:54] <uczen16> how about no /xd'
[14:54] <uczen16> u asshole
[14:54] <ObrienDave> oh lordy, and so it begins
[14:54] <uczen16> XDXD
[14:54] <DJones> uczen16: Please stop that
[14:54] <nishttal2> hello ppl.. sudo apt-get update is not finding some IP.. here is the output.. http://fpaste.org/51749/83663279/ how can i fix this?
[14:54] <bekks> uczen16: How about leaving this channel and trolling elsewhere?
[14:55] <uczen16> hmm
[14:55] <uczen16> no?
[14:55] <Dai_1987> way to feed the troll guys, lol
[14:55] <IdleOne> !guidelines > uczen16
[14:56] <ObrienDave> nishttal2 because that site does NOT support natty anymore?
[14:56] <bekks> !eolupgrades | nishttal2
[14:57] <nishttal2> ObrienDave, hmm.. so I have to rebuild a otherwise fully functional production server?
[14:57] <StrangeNoises> in short, if you're not the sort to jump on a new release every six months, you're probably better of sticking to the LTS versions :-)
[14:57] <StrangeNoises> off
[14:57] <nishttal2> StrangeNoises, and Natty isnt a LTS release?
[14:57] <hitsujiTMO> maxiaojun: you sould report a bug on it at the least. i'd be careful of using any such software that's not in the main repos
[14:57] <ObrienDave> nishttal2 what version is the server running?
[14:57] <StrangeNoises> nishttal2, no, it isn't
[14:58] <nishttal2> ObrienDave, StrangeNoises Linux bart 2.6.38-8-server #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 11 03:49:04 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[14:58] <StrangeNoises> whereas i have some servers deployed with Lucid, which is, and is still supported
[14:58] <ObrienDave> bart? oh my
[14:58] <bekks> nishttal2: lsb_release -sd
[14:59] <maxiaojun> hitsujiTMO: i know how to report bugs and reported many, but i'd try to find out the root cause first
[14:59] <nishttal2> bekks, Ubuntu 11.04
[14:59] <nishttal2> ObrienDave, rt :)
[14:59] <bekks> nishttal2: Thats not supported anymore.  No updated, no security fixes, nothing. Use LTS 12.04 to get 5 years supports.
[15:00] <bekks> -s
[15:00] <nishttal2> bekks, StrangeNoises is there no way to just install gdb somehow (which is what I need)
[15:00]  * StrangeNoises has been using saucy for probably around four months or so after all.... ;-)
[15:00] <Aut0Exec> hi
[15:00] <bekks> nishttal2: No.
[15:01] <Aut0Exec> will ubuntu sausy run nice on a netbook?
[15:01] <bekks> nishttal2: 11.04 is not supported anymore. EOD.
[15:01] <nishttal2> StrangeNoises, ObrienDave oh my workstation is always bleeding edge (13.10 rt now).. but production servers i dont touch
[15:01] <Aut0Exec> answer this quick
[15:01] <StrangeNoises> nishttal2, same here, well, i plan for *eventual* upgrades, but i only install the LTS on those
[15:01] <hitsujiTMO> Aut0Exec: probably not . depends on the cpu and gpu
[15:01] <StrangeNoises> hence my own dedicated hosted server is on 12.04, and those i support for a client are 10.04
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> !requirements | Aut0Exec
[15:02] <Aut0Exec> MonkeyDust: thank you brother
[15:02] <ObrienDave> YAY Xubuntu
[15:03] <ObrienDave> sorry, I'm kinda partial as you probably guessed ;)
[15:04] <suigeneris> !info kvirc raring
[15:05] <ObrienDave> nishttal2 well, go to 12.04 for now, in April, go to 14.04 and you won't have to touch it for 5 years :)
[15:06] <nishttal2> ObrienDave, rt.. but rt now.. i need to install gdb.. maybe I can download the .deb file for that somewhere
[15:06] <Aut0Exec> so if the machine meets 2 times teh minimum requirements... it should run pretty smooth or what?
[15:06] <bekks> nishttal2: On servers, you should always use the LTS.
[15:06] <Aut0Exec> answer this quick
[15:06] <StrangeNoises> Aut0Exec, i would expect a netbook to run standard ubuntu ok tbh
[15:06] <nishttal2> bekks, yeah will keep in mind
[15:07] <Aut0Exec> StrangeNoises: I have another laptop ... its like a pentium 4 2.x mhz.. 2 gigs of memory
[15:07] <ObrienDave> nishttal2 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/i386/gdb/7.2-1ubuntu2
[15:07] <philinux> Aut0Exec: running well on an ac er 1410 right now
[15:07] <StrangeNoises> Aut0Exec, limiting factor's probably graphics
[15:07] <nightdrever> any software i can use to mount iso file? im on ubuntu 12.04
[15:08] <Aut0Exec> philinux, StrangeNoises ok thanks.. i guess only one way to find out huh?
[15:08] <Aut0Exec> just install the damn thing i guess
[15:08] <Aut0Exec> see what happens
[15:08] <StrangeNoises> Aut0Exec, you can probably still *install* standard ubuntu, and if it's too sluggish on the desktop you can just install eg: lubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop and use that from then on
[15:08] <hitsujiTMO> nightdrever: mount -o loop
[15:08] <nishttal2> ObrienDave, oh perfect... thanks much appreciated
[15:08] <philinux> Aut0Exec: 1.3 gig celeron and intel integrated gm45
[15:08] <ObrienDave> no prob
[15:08] <Aut0Exec> philinux: is it smooth?
[15:08] <philinux> Aut0Exec: and 2 gig ram
[15:09] <Aut0Exec> philinux: is that 13.10? and is it smooth?
[15:09] <nishttal2> ObrienDave, its i386.. where can i find the 64-bit version
[15:09] <philinux> Aut0Exec: runs very well with default ubuntu install i.e unity
[15:09] <ObrienDave> picky, PICKY ;)
[15:09] <MonkeyDust> Aut0Exec  use a live dvd / usb to try it out, is my advice
[15:09] <Aut0Exec> ok
[15:10] <Aut0Exec> installation prompts you for what type of install you want?
[15:10] <philinux> Aut0Exec: if it didn't run well i'd use something else
[15:10] <Aut0Exec> standard, unity, ... etc?
[15:10] <StrangeNoises> Aut0Exec, standard installer will just install unity
[15:10] <Aut0Exec> ok
[15:10] <StrangeNoises> it will work, you then decide if it's smooth and responsive enough for you
[15:10] <StrangeNoises> and if it is, you're done
[15:10] <ObrienDave> nishttal2 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdb/7.2-1ubuntu4
[15:10] <Aut0Exec> gatcha
[15:10] <StrangeNoises> otherwise, you can just install one of the other desktop environments directly
[15:10] <Aut0Exec> i will attempt the install
[15:10] <StrangeNoises> no need to reinstall
[15:11] <MonkeyDust> Aut0Exec  firdt try it, before you install
[15:11] <Aut0Exec> StrangeNoises: this can all be done from the same install media correct?
[15:11] <philinux> Aut0Exec: I can play hd videos etc
[15:11] <Aut0Exec> MonkeyDust: ok
[15:11] <StrangeNoises> Aut0Exec, no, the install media will install unity
[15:11] <_JuJuBee> I cannot seem to get my motorola maxx to show on ubuntu as a USB device.  Syslog shows this when I connect phone... http://pastebin.com/EAjQkmqS
[15:11] <StrangeNoises> but once installed the install media is irrelevant
[15:11] <StrangeNoises> it installs from net
[15:11] <nishttal2> ObrienDave, thanks again
[15:11] <Aut0Exec> ahh ok
[15:11] <ObrienDave> yup
[15:11] <Aut0Exec> i totally understand now
[15:12] <philinux> Aut0Exec: I only run browser and a bit of office stuff and xchat ,evolution etc
[15:12] <StrangeNoises> for P4 and netbook you want the 32-bit installer btw
[15:12] <Aut0Exec> philinux: and you find it very nice and smooth? then i shall use it as well
[15:12] <Aut0Exec> :)
[15:12] <Aut0Exec> StrangeNoises: indeed
[15:12] <StrangeNoises> mentioning as it's no longer the default when you get to the download page
[15:12] <Aut0Exec> StrangeNoises: that goes without saying my friend
[15:13] <Aut0Exec> ok
[15:13] <StrangeNoises> so you need to remember to select it
[15:13] <Aut0Exec> yessir
[15:13] <Aut0Exec> they assume you have the latest and greatest hardware
[15:13] <Aut0Exec> noobs
[15:13] <StrangeNoises> in fairness, more people do now i reckon
[15:13] <StrangeNoises> even recent atoms are 64-bit
[15:13] <Aut0Exec> if ubuntu fails ... i'll probably go with a lighter distro
[15:13] <Aut0Exec> perhaps debian
[15:13] <Aut0Exec> or arch
[15:14] <ripthejacker> xubuntu?
[15:14] <Aut0Exec> ok
[15:14] <Aut0Exec> you think thats light?
[15:14] <ObrienDave> YAY Xubuntu
[15:14] <StrangeNoises> xubuntu is way lighter than unity, but unity is nicer if the system can cope with it :-)
[15:14] <Aut0Exec> oh snap
[15:14] <StrangeNoises> so worth the effort
[15:14] <Aut0Exec> yessir
[15:14] <Aut0Exec> totally
[15:15] <Aut0Exec> +1 ubuntu fanbois
[15:15] <ObrienDave> Unity PFFFFFT
[15:15] <MonkeyDust> Aut0Exec  and KDE is faster, more responsive than Unity, in my experience, that is
[15:15] <StrangeNoises> my other computer is a mac, so unity is less of a wrench
[15:16] <StrangeNoises> dock may be in the wrong place but at least the menus arent ;-D
[15:16] <philinux> Aut0Exec: I'm running the 64 bit version by the way
[15:17] <dreamy_> whats the command on the command line to know what processes are running?
[15:18]  * StrangeNoises steps across to the mac to make an ubuntu usb bootable :-P
[15:18] <genii> dreamy_: ps
[15:18] <StrangeNoises> dreamy_: ps
[15:18] <StrangeNoises> with various options
[15:18] <FloodBot1> StrangeNoises: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:18] <StrangeNoises> eg:
[15:18] <savio> use ps / top
[15:18] <dreamy_> ty all
[15:18] <StrangeNoises> ps aux
[15:18] <StrangeNoises> i'm not bloody pasting, FloodBot1 i just type fast :-P
[15:18] <philinux> Aut0Exec: see this http://imagebin.org/275857
[15:19] <ObrienDave> floodbot is SLOW! ;)
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> slowbot
[15:20] <Aut0Exec> thank you guys
[15:20] <dreamy_> if i had a ftp server whould it show with "ps"
[15:20] <dreamy_> ?
[15:20] <StrangeNoises> probably not *just* ps as that'll just show your processes
[15:20] <StrangeNoises> hence ps aux, which shows all
[15:20] <StrangeNoises> also if you have a desktop, system monitor
[15:21] <StrangeNoises> top for an ongoing display of the top running processes, but an ftpd probably won't often show up there unless it's being DOSed
[15:21] <Aut0Exec> philinux: i se
[15:21] <Aut0Exec> philinux: this is sweet breh
[15:21] <Aut0Exec> philinux: ok check this out.... I have a 32 bit machine tho...
[15:22] <StrangeNoises> should be fine
[15:22] <StrangeNoises> just get on with it ;-P
[15:22] <dreamy_> ok, know what if i want to list the "services"?
[15:22] <Aut0Exec> ok
[15:23] <gimmic> anyone noticed issues with gimp and unity?