[21:39] <chro> Package 'linux-image-3.0.0-12-generic' is not installed, so not removed <- I think dpkg -l | grep linux-image also shows some packages that are not installed.
[21:39] <codephobic> btw how do I restart nautilus - maybe that could kick the thing into order?
[21:39] <zykotick9> chro: if you see rc, that means the package was uninstalled, but not purged, so config files are still hanging around
[21:39] <chro> oh ok!
[21:39] <chro> I see rc there yes
[21:40] <__OpenGL__> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/1301398 this is the issue i see
[21:42] <gQuigs> anyone know of a site like this: http://amirunningxp.com/ except that points you to download ubunut?
[21:43] <kiilo> hi - empathy IRC doesnt work for me 14.04 LTS ...
[21:44] <kiilo> uodated 12.04 to 14.04 recently
[21:44] <kostkon> kiilo, what's the problem exactly
[21:45] <kiilo> it says "Diconnected - Status is set to offline"
[21:45] <kostkon> kiilo, is telepathy-idle already installed?   give  apt-cache policy telepathy-idle
[21:46] <kiilo> but its set to connect and empathy is set to available
[21:46] <kiilo> installed 0.2.0-1
[21:47] <sigint88> any cool things happening with Trusty Tahr?
[21:47] <xangua> !info account-plugin-irc | kiilo is it installed?
[21:47] <kiilo> @kostkon i checked that
[21:47] <kostkon> kiilo, you could try removing that irc account and re-adding it
[21:47] <kiilo> yep too - i tried all that
[21:48] <kostkon> kiilo, what does it say in the accounts window
[21:48] <kiilo> ah
[21:48] <kostkon> xangua, good one
[21:48] <kiilo> moment
[21:48] <skinux> How do we install patch to SDL?
[21:49] <kostkon> kiilo, where did you setup the account. in empathy or in ubuntu accounts?
[21:49] <Hsic> hi to all! i've a stranger problem
[21:49] <kiilo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7317848/
[21:50] <whoever> Hsic: hi how strange
[21:50] <kiilo> i may have a version clash
[21:50] <Hsic> i've tryed ubuntu 10.4 and xubuntu 14.4
[21:50] <kostkon> kiilo, oh you are using the gnome3 ppa
[21:50] <kiilo> yep thats it maybe
[21:50] <kostkon> kiilo, check where empathy is coming from too
[21:50] <Hsic> on the installer wizard i didnt find the option to install behind windows
[21:51] <Hsic> only rewrite or manual setting..
[21:51] <kiilo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7317871/ here
[21:51] <whoever> Hsic: i don't thiank that is an option
[21:51] <Hsic> on 10.4 on the first time the option was present, but give me an error :( and show me the manual mode...
[21:52] <Hsic> in the manual mode if i add a partition the exist ntfs is resetted...
[21:52] <Hsic> i quit the wizard :( i didnt know how to do
[21:52] <kiilo> ok will update empathy and report back
[21:52] <whoever> Hsic: you install it to a partion , and then your asked where you want to install grub/the boot loader, and that is where you pick the partion that windows is on
[21:53] <Hsic> yes but if i add new partition the ntfs is not resized but is resetted on free space :(
[21:54] <Hsic> on other pc i select install ubuntu next widnows
[21:54] <Beldar> Hsic, pastebin the info from running sudo fdisk -l
[21:54] <whoever> Hsic: you need to alocate your windows partion ahead of time , leave enough room on the other partion for linux
[21:55] <Hsic> whoever: the first time the wizard installer give me this... autoresize and auto install partition, but this failed :(
[21:55] <Hsic> now i didnt find this option when i try to install xubuntu 14.4
[21:55] <orbisvicis> can I make changes to the initramfs from within busybox ?
[21:55] <Hsic> hdd is 160gb all in ntfs
[21:56] <deb> is the new ubuntu release now safe to install?
[21:56] <codephobic> Logan_, don't have a clue how but ... it's fixed
[21:56] <orbisvicis> i mean, persistent changes.
[21:56] <Logan_> hooray!
[21:56] <k1l_> deb: yes
[21:56] <codephobic> Logan_, logged into another user, then logged out, then logged back into this and ... it's all good, again.
[21:56] <orbisvicis> Otherwise, how can I boot from the recovery shell after having made the necessary changes ?
[21:56] <codephobic> :)
[21:57] <whoever> Hsic: you should install windows first, and make 2 logical partions at that time, install windows to one of them, then boot the ubuntu installer, and install linux to the other, when asked where to install the boot loader pick the partion with windows on it
[21:57] <kiilo> hey thanks alot i think that was it ...
[21:57] <Hsic> windows xp is arleady installed
[21:57] <codephobic> hopefully it stays ... "fixed".
[21:57] <whoever> Hsic: and how big are the two partions
[21:58] <nf7> How do I completely remove an application from my system? I used 'sudo apt-get remove emacs', and it seemed to go through, but when I type 'emacs' in the terminal, the program still launches! wtf!!11
[21:58] <Hsic> pc: 160gb hdd with windows xp, one partiton in ntfs
[21:58] <codephobic> thanks :)
[21:59] <__OpenGL__> hmm been digging some more re my dual head hot plug issue
[21:59] <codephobic> best be off now ... there's a dwarf, whose fate I've got to see ...
[21:59] <__OpenGL__> no errors in dmesg or logs that I can see
[21:59] <whoever> nf7:  sudo apt-get remove <app name>
[21:59] <__OpenGL__> works fine if xorg is killed after they hot plugged or hot unplugged
[21:59] <nf7> whoever: Yes, like I said, it doesn't seem to work. Is there another way?
[21:59] <Hsic> the first time that i've booted ubuntu 10.4 installer cd, i selected: install ubuntu near windows (autoresize ntfs: 60gb, other in ext3), but the tool failed and installed aborted...
[21:59] <trism> nf7: emacs is only the meta package, you need to remove the versioned one, emacs24 perhaps
[22:00] <nf7> trism: Let me try that.
[22:00] <whoever> Hsic: so  you have two partions, each 140gb?
[22:00] <__OpenGL__> if I change settings in display settings, for example move a monitor up or down and hit apply my video breaks and I must kill xorg to fix it
[22:00] <Hsic> ONE ntfs Partition 160gb (the size of the hdd) with windows xp
[22:00] <whoever> nf7: find the application in the software center, and click the remove button
[22:00] <nf7> trism: That seems to have worked! Is there a way I can search my system for "emacs" to see if I need to remove any other packages?
[22:00] <nf7> whoever: My installation doesn't have a GUI, it's commandline only.
[22:00] <trism> nf7: you can also check out: dpkg -l '*emacs*'; to see what is installed
[22:01] <nf7> whoever: I figured it out though, thanks for the suggestions
[22:01] <trism> nf7: might want to grep that for ^ii since you may see ones with rc which aren't installed
[22:02] <Joel> is there a way to say do an apt-get update on a specific repo?
[22:04] <OerHeks> Joel,  why only one repo ?
[22:04] <Hsic> whoever: help
[22:04] <__OpenGL__> ok ive managed to fix my hot monitor hot plug issue
[22:05] <__OpenGL__> it seems to have been caused by having texture compression enabled in ccsm
[22:05] <kiilo-2> mmmh - meeh still "Disconnected -  Status is set to offline" - is there a log file?
[22:05] <Joel> OerHeks, because I only want to update packages in the one repo.
[22:06] <iason> can anyone who has cinnamon installed tell me how to use the A11y Mousewheeel zoom feature?
[22:06] <liquid_heart> how to unlock my hard drive which is locked...ata security ...input/output error
[22:06] <whoever>  Hsic where are you stuck
[22:06] <zykotick9> kiilo-2: have you considered using a _real_ irc client, for irc?  rather then an IM client?
[22:06] <kiilo-2> yes im using real xchat now
[22:06] <liquid_heart> any malaysians
[22:07] <kiilo-2> but its an regression ... from 12.04 at least here
[22:07] <kiilo-2> kind of
[22:07] <Hsic> whoever: why the installer dont give me the option: install ubuntu near windows
[22:07] <OerHeks> Hsic maybe because you have 4 primairy partitions already?
[22:08] <kiilo-2> but i have to check ... the versions are ok - a good hint at least
[22:08] <whoever> Hsic: i never noticed that option , and have always done it this way since red had 6
[22:08] <OerHeks> Joel, i don'tknow of a way to update one repo only, sorry
[22:08] <whoever> Hsic: does this link help, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[22:09] <Joel> OerHeks, it can be done, it's just a hassle to disable sources, apt-cache update, etc.
[22:09] <whoever> Hsic: it looks like that lik is telling you what I am
[22:09] <Hsic> whoever: Automatic partition resizing is failed the first time :( on xubuntu 14.4 i didn't find the optoon
[22:09] <OerHeks> Hsic,  hold on, xp on Sata hdd? then your hdd controller is set in the bios to IDE, not AHCI?
[22:10] <Hsic> is a very old laptop 2006 with IDE mini hdd
[22:10] <whoever> Hsic: i theink you may be partitiong the wrong thing ie your tring to partion a drive  and it is failing, but if it is a partiotion it should work fine
[22:11] <Hsic> whoever: the resize option fail :(
[22:11] <whoever> Hsic: you may even need to reburn your disc at a slower speed
[22:11] <OerHeks> Hsic delete XP, it is useless anyway
[22:11] <whoever> and try again
[22:11] <whoever> Hsic: you shouldi't pin your hopes on auto resize
[22:12] <Hsic> OerHeks: its need beacuse is istalled a software for my work... with license etc etc.. i would to install ubuntu and leave untouched xp
[22:12] <Hsic> whoever: i've used an original from CANONICAL ubuntu 10.4 cd :S
[22:13] <whoever> Hsic: you could just run it in a vm inside ubuntu
[22:13] <Hsic> whoever: give me detail :) how i can do this?
[22:14] <whoever> Hsic: how big is your second partition
[22:14] <Hsic> whoever: i didnt have a second partition :( only one with 160gb the same size of the hdd
[22:15] <whoever> Hsic: there is your problem , you need 2
[22:15] <Hsic> whoever: exact but if i try to resize give me error...
[22:15] <Hsic> :(
[22:15] <whoever> Hsic: go to xp and resiize it to 100 , then youll have about 50 on the othere
[22:16] <energizer> is it possible to change the colors of pdfs to dark for reading in dark rooms?
[22:16] <whoever> then install ubuntu to the 50 gb partition with autoformat
[22:16] <whoever> then you may need to burn a new disc to get it done
[22:17] <Hsic> whoever: with xp is impossible to resize partition?
[22:18] <whoever> schlaftier: control panel, mangae drives then click on c and resiz, freeup space , that option should be there aFaik
[22:18] <trism> Joel: http://askubuntu.com/questions/65245/apt-get-update-only-for-a-specific-repository
[22:18] <whoever> if not you will need to use something like gparted.iso to do that for you
[22:19] <Hsic> whoever: well if i try in live mode and resize with gparted?
[22:19] <ElixirVitae> Hello.
[22:19] <ElixirVitae> I am using 12.04 and with either Firefox or chromium, I have problems playing youtube videos.
[22:20] <ElixirVitae> Not just a flash issue, as I am in html5 trial for youtube and it still doesn't work.
[22:20] <ElixirVitae> I was suggested pepper, but I don't think that would have any effect on html5 not working.
[22:21] <ElixirVitae> Anyone know any way to amend the situation?
[22:21] <tgm4883> ElixirVitae: what does problems mean? Did you verify that the youtube video was actually HTML5 (I don't think all are yet)
[22:21] <whoever> Hsic: gparted is a seperate live iso
[22:21] <ElixirVitae> I checked a few videos, but I suppose some of them were html5.
[22:22] <ElixirVitae> How do check anyhow?
[22:22] <ElixirVitae> *+I
[22:22] <kostkon> ElixirVitae, right click on the video
[22:22] <Hsic> whoever: this? http://gparted.org/download.php
[22:22] <tgm4883> ElixirVitae: I suppose that would depend on what you mean by they don't work. Right clicking a html5 video on youtube produces a different menu
[22:23] <tgm4883> ElixirVitae: here is an html5 video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpkPNgfl7jE
[22:23] <ElixirVitae> https://medium.com/info-sec/cb9ad1292ea3
[22:23] <ElixirVitae> ^ I have found something like this, debating whether google is trying to cripple Firefox
[22:24] <tgm4883> ElixirVitae: uh, you said it doesn't work in chromium either
[22:24] <garbage_> hello
[22:24] <ElixirVitae> I did say that, but I didn't try in chromium with html5, only flash.
[22:24] <ElixirVitae> Also, that link also doesn't work, it even loads annotations, then it is all ants.
[22:25] <Noiro> Can someone help me with nvidia drivers? I'm trying to reorient my dual screens properly with the nvidia GUI, but every time I hit 'apply' it closes out of the program
[22:25] <whoever> Hsic: yep
[22:25] <tgm4883> ElixirVitae: ants?
[22:25] <Hsic> whoever: thanks a lot, tomorrow i try the gparted live :) thanks
[22:25] <ElixirVitae> That standart static screen, tgm4883
[22:25] <Noiro> it thinks one screen is on the wrong side of the other and it's really messing with me.
[22:25] <tgm4883> ElixirVitae: ah snow
[22:26] <tgm4883> ElixirVitae: and you get that in firefox too?
[22:26] <ElixirVitae> Yeah.
[22:26] <whoever> Hsic: so then try to install ubuntu to your new partition
[22:26] <tgm4883> ElixirVitae: that link works for me in firefox
[22:26] <ElixirVitae> Hmm.
[22:27] <Hsic> whoever: (Y)
[22:27] <whoever> Hsic: for what its worth, do you kow ms quit supporting xp
[22:27] <ElixirVitae> I don't think it is related to my scripts(closed them anyhow), or add-ons.
[22:27] <Noiro> helloooo
[22:27] <Joel> trism, nice,t hanks.
[22:28] <ElixirVitae> I should test for a more bit, but for now, I begrudgingly use chrome for my youtube needs, it seems.
[22:28] <ElixirVitae> Oh well.
[22:28] <whoever> Hsic: is your job just cheap , and don't want to get you windows 7
[22:28] <ki7rw> after upgrading to trusty, one machine keeps giving me this after executing apt-get update: http://pastebin.com/K36ahRyq  -- not sure of what to do about it
[22:28] <ElixirVitae> Thanks anyhow, tgm4883
[22:29] <trism> ki7rw: looks like you have two partner repos in your /etc/apt/sources.list, might delete one or pastebin so we can take a look
[22:29] <kostkon> ki7rw, open your /etc/apt/sources.list file and remove the duplicate entries
[22:29] <Hsic> whoever: yes, this is the reason that i want to install ubuntu near xp legacy
[22:29] <ki7rw> can't find a duplicate entry
[22:29] <whoever> Hsic: what do you do in xp that you need it for
[22:31] <whoever> Hsic: you may not actually need it to dual boot
[22:31] <Hsic> whoever: xp is the only that support an software that program a legacy hardware over lpt
[22:31] <Hsic> whoever: with ubuntu i can surf on the internet safly
[22:31] <whoever> Hsic: run it in virtualbox inside ubuntu
[22:31] <Hsic> and windows for my work
[22:32] <Hsic> whoever: how i do this with virtaulbox
[22:32] <Hsic> ?
[22:32] <ki7rw> http://pastebin.com/YLAYmjWa
[22:32] <whoever> inside ubuntu, go to software center and find virtualbox and install it
[22:33] <Guest41062> I forgot my password, and grub has stopped showing up after the update. How do I recover my password if grub isn't working, or grub without my password?
[22:33] <Hsic> whoever: after??
[22:33] <whoever> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt8wrKBKrt0 that should give you an diea
[22:33] <whoever> idea
[22:34] <brucevein>  [jbd2/md2-8] is using 99% IO
[22:34] <GTR> Guest41062: do you have your pass phrase
[22:34] <brucevein> has anyone encountered this issue before
[22:34] <Guest41062> I am not even sure if I got one, so no.
[22:34] <whoever> Hsic: are you  gonna be around for a few hour , i gotta get to work sone , and will be back in a few hours
[22:34] <GTR> Guest41062: is your home folder encrypted?
[22:35] <Guest41062> I don't think so, luckily.
[22:35] <GTR> Guest41062: and do you have something important in there
[22:35] <Guest41062> My password would be very easy to brute force for sure.
[22:35] <Guest41062> No
[22:35] <Guest41062> Not really
[22:35] <trism> ki7rw: hmm do you have one in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ?
[22:35] <Guest41062> Well, I got my haskell stuff.
[22:35] <Hsic> whoever: tnk for all
[22:35] <Hsic> :)
[22:36] <ki7rw> trism: i'll have to check
[22:36] <GTR> Guest41062: I would reinstall if I were you and can`t you try brute force it yourself
[22:36] <GTR> after all you made it
[22:37] <rd_> Alguém ai ta usando o ubuntu 14.04?
[22:37] <Guest41062> GTR: Well, I would suredly just use a rescue CD before I resort to that.
[22:37] <Guest41062> I was just wondering if there was a way without it.
[22:37] <sabgenton> Is there a way to hide the menu in trusty?
[22:37] <brandon__> does anyone know why Ubuntu software center on gnome ubuntu 14.04 has light text on a white background? its nearly impossible to read
[22:37] <whoever> under vertualbox new machine , set it hardrive fixed 60gb , let it create the hardrive, then you go to starge select the optical drive that has your xp disk, then in system advanded you set the cdrom drive to boot first, under network, select wired and in the drop down (it will usually end with OEM) select that, then when you start the virtualmachen you will be prompted to push anykey to boot from cd, do so  and your off and running
[22:38] <sabgenton> It hid by default in the last lts on my epc
[22:38] <whoever> install as normal
[22:38] <GTR> Guest41062: maybe there is do you have like 4gb flash
[22:38] <Guest41062> GTR: I mean without extra hardware.
[22:38] <zykotick9> !passwords | Guest41062
[22:38] <Guest41062> I no how to do it with a thumb drive or CD.
[22:38] <sabgenton> It's really anoying  the menu bugs me enough on it's side
[22:38] <sabgenton> !menu
[22:39] <sabgenton> !global menu
[22:39] <GTR> Guest41062: if you have free space you can install it there retrieve your files and delete the extra one
[22:39] <sabgenton> :(
[22:39] <brandon__> anybody having this same issue?
[22:40] <Guest41062> I guess I was wondering if there was an "easy fix". I know the hard ones.
[22:40] <brandon__>  Ubuntu software center on gnome ubuntu 14.04 has light text on a white background? its nearly impossible to read
[22:41] <rd_> someone is using UBUNTU 14.04
[22:41] <rd_> ?
[22:41] <GTR> brandon__: tried googling sounds like messed up css file or something
[22:41] <trism> brandon__: like bug 1283634 ?
[22:41] <brandon__> thanks gtr
[22:41] <ki7rw> trism: there was a duplicate entry in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/canonical_partner.list - i remarked the duplicate out but still have the problem
[22:41] <brandon__> trism, ive seen it report on launchpad, that's probably the one
[22:42] <brandon__> yup, that's it ubottu
[22:42] <trism> ki7rw: you can just delete the file
[22:42] <brandon__> second problem, my monitor config won't save after reboot
[22:42] <buMp> is 10gb enough to install ubuntu with no future problems?
[22:42] <buMp> :)
[22:42] <brandon__> i have dual monitors, when i reboot the default screen is on the left, i want the right screen to be default
[22:42] <rd_> alguém pode ajudar?
[22:42] <rd_> someone can help me?
[22:42] <GTR> buMp 10gb you have no problem
[22:43] <veryhappy> rd_: if you talk in english, yes
[22:43] <brandon__> so i have to reconfigure after every reboot :(
[22:43] <julio> hi
[22:43] <buMp> GTR: thank you buddy ;)
[22:43] <ki7rw> trism: deleting the file fixed the problem - thanks
[22:43] <GTR> brandon__: you can use terminal to install things
[22:43] <julio> whatsap  guys
[22:44] <brandon__> thanks GTR
[22:44] <brandon__> GTR, any idea about my dual monitor config?
[22:44] <veryhappy> guys, my gnome3 seems to be broken and gdm as well, now i actually don't want to reinstall everything, is there any way i can reset everything without having to reinstall it?
[22:44] <GTR> maybe
[22:44] <veryhappy> perhaps you can also tell me if there's a possibility to set up if my personal folder is encrypted or not?
[22:44] <brandon__> veryhappy, did you make a backup?
[22:44] <GTR> brandon__: I use second monitor right now [laptop with the original detached]
[22:45] <kupo_> How do I use PPA's if they all say 13.10 at latest
[22:45] <veryhappy> brandon_: i got this netbook before a week, installed it last friday, i didn't make a backup since then...
[22:45] <zykotick9> kupo_: wait 'til the maintainer of the PPA update them...
[22:45] <NecroByte> jkn
[22:46] <brandon__> veryhappy, how is it broken? what did you do before it broke?
[22:46] <brandon__> GTR, i'm on a desktop with 2 monitors. I use my right monitor as the primary. Whenever I reboot the monitors are flip flopped
[22:46] <diecastarts> I know i shouldn't really ask for help with steam here but having a problem running any game.. but i think it maybe a problem with x11 can someone check out this pastebin and see if if you can point me to where or how to fix it??? http://pastebin.com/pRNmtQSu
[22:47] <GTR> brandon__ have you tried system settings displays and you apply the settings there [it worked for me from the first time]
[22:47] <veryhappy> brandon__: it's one of those "i don't know what i did before" situations, i think i installed a few packages before, but it would already help me, if there would be a way that i would just have to reset the settings or remove the applications and install them again in that way that everything can be set up again...
[22:47] <veryhappy> even gdm and gnome
[22:48] <brandon__> GTR, yeah, i use that to re-arrange my monitors, but i have to do it after every reboot
[22:48] <brandon__> veryhappy, how exactly is it 'broken'
[22:48] <brandon__> what issue are you having
[22:48] <julio> brandon__, i have a same situation, but a i think because the default config is a monitor in rigth side
[22:49] <julio> sorry for my english jajaj
[22:49] <veryhappy> gdm isn't showing my name anymore after i logged in once and want to login again after i logged out
[22:49] <zykotick9> veryhappy: if you can log in from a console (ctrl+alt+f1), can you check the ownership in your home directory "ls -l .Xauthority" is it owned by root or your user?
[22:49] <julio> hola
[22:49] <julio> como estan?
[22:50] <zykotick9> !es | julio
[22:50] <Gingineer> Hello! I just tried to install the OS along side Windows 7 and in the process something with grub or bootloader messed up.  How do I fix this?
[22:50] <veryhappy> zykotick9: hold on
[22:51] <GTR> brandon__  check this out http://askubuntu.com/questions/194390/settings-for-multiple-monitors-are-not-stored
[22:51] <veryhappy> zykotick9: it says -rw------- 1 ben ben
[22:51] <brandon__> thanks GTR , ill check out xrandr
[22:51] <veryhappy> so it is owned by myself
[22:51] <zykotick9> veryhappy: ok, that's fine... guess it's something else.  best of luck!
[22:51] <julio> sorry
[22:52] <veryhappy> well thanks...
[22:52] <veryhappy> was that it then?
[22:52] <kupo_> Ok. just download most recent tar for qbittorrent. now how do i update wiht it?
[22:52] <kupo_> not too much of a ubuntu noob. but i am a dpkg noob
[22:53] <AssociateX> Hello. How do I check which version of Ubuntu that I have installed?
[22:53] <zykotick9> kupo_: using ubuntu repo versions is recommended... you'd have to ask the qbittorrent people for support - if you want to compile latest...
[22:53] <zykotick9> AssociateX: "lsb_release -a" in terminal, is one way.
[22:53] <daftykins> AssociateX: or cat /etc/issue
[22:53] <helder> hi, new to the chat room
[22:53] <kupo_> no dpkg command to just load it up in folder? i have aolder version currently installed.
[22:54] <veryhappy> ok, well then... i'm gonna reinstall ubuntu, i already saved my own files... do you recommend to encrypt my personal folder or not? doesn't it make more errors if i encrypt it?
[22:54] <helder> someone can give me a tip please?
[22:54] <kostkon> kupo_: they have a ppa, use that
[22:54] <AssociateX> zykotick9, daftykins thank you.
[22:54] <kupo_> One more question. Using xubuntu and I put in a flahs usb drive so i could toss a file on there. i could not find any option to move files to it
[22:55] <kupo_> can only find 13.10 PPA. i'll look more newer one
[22:55] <zykotick9> veryhappy: i personally think "home folder encryption" is LAME.  use full disk encryption, via-luks if you want security.
[22:55] <GTR> microphone stream sent to speakers? someone had this problem
[22:56] <veryhappy> zykotick9: i didn't use security before, i just want to be able to rescue my files when my system breaks
[22:56] <veryhappy> i just thought about security because that is a netbook and that can be stolen quite fast.
[22:56] <zykotick9> veryhappy: if you use encryption, if something goes wrong, consider that data lost.  Still want encryption?
[22:56] <veryhappy> nope
[22:56] <Tiller> I currently run a dual boot of Windows 7 and Ubuntu 13.10. Recently, whenever I have tried to log in to Ubuntu, my mouse cursor won't show up and I can't connect to the internet. Should I just download the new version of Ubuntu and install it over 13.10?
[22:57] <veryhappy> zykotick9: thanks for that straight explanation
[22:57] <zykotick9> veryhappy: fyi, home folder encryption will break hibernation on netbooks (by default)
[22:57] <veryhappy> oh crap
[22:57] <veryhappy> sorrz
[22:57] <veryhappy> sorry
[22:57] <ademoglu> guys how can i see hidden files on ubuntu 14.04 ?
[22:58] <zykotick9> ademoglu: from terminal?  "ls -a"
[22:58] <nith1210> ademoglu: in the gui, ctrl+h
[22:58] <liso> today I started ubuntu and for some reason the network doesn't work.I have dual boot, so I switched to windows and network works fine. the connection of ubuntu is like always with dhcp, I changed nothing, it just stopped working. what can I do?
[22:58] <ademoglu> thanks a lot
[22:58] <zykotick9> nith1210: s/gui/nautilus/ i believe ;)
[22:58] <nith1210> zykotick9: which is the default gui
[22:59] <diecastarts> anyone have an idea why I be getting a badwindow error ???
[22:59] <zykotick9> nith1210: natuilus is a file manager, NOT a gui ;)
[22:59] <ademoglu> on ubuntu 14.04 i have mouse problem, are there anyone like me ?
[22:59] <AssociateX> Ah, geez! I haven't upgraded for a while, I just noticed that I'm on Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS. Derp
[22:59] <ne0> hi
[23:00] <jobarte> hi guys
[23:00] <zykotick9> AssociateX: i'd guess, the upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 won't be offered, by default, until the first point release of 14.04.1
[23:00] <jobarte> is possible to create a historical data from nload command?
[23:00] <veryhappy> another question: any revision control available for ubuntu system and /home?
[23:00] <Tiller> I currently run a dual boot of Windows 7 and Ubuntu 13.10. Recently, whenever I have tried to log in to Ubuntu, my mouse cursor won't show up and I can't connect to the internet. Should I just download the new version of Ubuntu and install it over 13.10?
[23:00] <kingplusplus> hello guys i need some help here... after upgrading from 13.04 to 14.04 xubuntu. I found a keyboard icon named ibus i guess. It has changed my UK keyboard to that of US how can i revert and remove the ibus because the preference options doesn't do anythong when i rightclick the icon on status trya
[23:02] <AssociateX> zykotick9, how would I force it?
[23:02] <kupo_> 14.10 is going to be a unicorn
[23:02] <kupo_> how cute
[23:02] <zykotick9> AssociateX: i'm not sure, but there _is_ a way...
[23:04] <kupo_> cool y ppa manager works now
[23:04] <liso> today I started ubuntu and for some reason the network doesn't work.I have dual boot, so I switched to windows and network works fine. the connection of ubuntu is like always with dhcp, I changed nothing, it just stopped working. what can I do?
[23:04] <AssociateX> zykotick9, thanks, I'll start looking on google.
[23:04] <Kaye18>  Here some videos. I hope you like them! http://bitly.com/1gAh6Jy
[23:04] <zykotick9> AssociateX: s/google/duckduckgo|startpage/ would be my recommendation ;)
[23:06] <veryhappy> is there any possibility i can manage my system with a "revision system" or like let's say snapshots? i'm using a netbook and i just want to be sure to have a functioning version of my system i can always go back to.
[23:06] <kingplusplus> please can someone advise how to fix this problem? I upgraded from 13.04 to 14.04 but apache isn't working as nornal. It doesn't load files in /var/www/ rather it shows something different
[23:10] <zykotick9> veryhappy: that's a feature that makes ZFS (a non-gnu linux native) filesystem, really cool.  it's like "system restore" (ala MS) at a file system level.  for gnu/linux though, i'm not aware of such an option (though one might exist!)
[23:11] <jobarte> is possible to create a historical data from nload command?
[23:13] <veryhappy> zykotick9: a friend of mine showed me a video where as far as i remember someone used a hammer on 2 hard drives of a raid with zfs and the data were still complete :D
[23:14] <zykotick9> veryhappy: zfs is pretty cool, too bad it wasn't copyleft...
[23:14] <veryhappy> hmmm
[23:14] <kingplusplus> hello guys i have upgraded but localhost doesn't load It works anymore when i type it in browser
[23:14] <AssociateX> zykotick9, found it, thanks
[23:15] <AndChat278529> @me
[23:15] <zykotick9> AssociateX: nice...  good luck (you'll probably need it)
[23:16] <veryhappy> zykotick9: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZFS
[23:16] <zykotick9> veryhappy: ZFS will never be linux-native :(  the fuse driver, or out-of-kernel-tree driver is... ahh... i wouldn't trust/use it...
[23:17] <AndChat278529> @kingplusplus more detail??
[23:17] <veryhappy> zykotick9: there gotta be a way
[23:18] <ki7rw> i can't seem to get skype to install on trusty - neither 32 bit nor 64 bit
[23:18] <veryhappy> like for users like me messing up their system due to all my things that i'm trying out
[23:18] <ki7rw> googling hasn't turned up an answer yet
[23:18] <zykotick9> veryhappy: oh, i imageine there _is_ a way, but I wouldn't personally use it.  if you want a stable (ie non-breaking system) you might consider a different distro?!?!
[23:18] <luckst0rr> dont use zfs fuse, go with zfs on linux
[23:18] <SteveH0> I'm trying to rsync from one of my servers to another, but when I do, I get "Port 22: Connection refused".  I can ssh from each system to the the other, and (obviously) can ping them.  Can anyone suggest a way around this "thinko"?
[23:20] <veryhappy> ki7rw: download the multiarch version skype-ubuntu-precise_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386 (http://www.skype.com/pt/download-skype/skype-for-linux/downloading/?type=ubuntu64)
[23:20] <veryhappy> To install: right click > Open with Ubuntu Software Center > Install
[23:20] <veryhappy> http://askubuntu.com/questions/450101/cant-install-skype-in-14-04-64-bit-solved
[23:20] <berend> SteveH0: try -v to see if that gives more info.
[23:20] <nith1210> veryhappy: depending on what you're doing, chroot's might do what you want. It depends on what exactly you're "trying out".
[23:20] <veryhappy> zykotick9: ubuntu is the best distribution that fits my needs
[23:20] <ki7rw> veryhappy: i tried to install it with the ubuntu software center and got an error on multiarch also
[23:21] <veryhappy> nith1210: well good idea....
[23:21] <veryhappy> but i'm sometimes breaking my system just by installing something for my actual system... strange
[23:21] <veryhappy> then i'd need a revision control system or a snapshot
[23:22] <zykotick9> veryhappy: you'll have to "expect" breakages, and have backups...  <- but if it suits you best?
[23:22] <veryhappy> ki7rw: In Software & Updates set Download from: Main Server
[23:23] <orbisvicis> im in a bit of a touch spot... only one vmlinuz/initrd and it is missing some libs (which I fixed in a fedora livecd) but now it is mot activating lvm volume groups. How do I fix this ?
[23:23] <veryhappy> zykotick9: i just thought there'd be a way
[23:23] <orbisvicis> *tough
[23:23] <orbisvicis> if anyone knows what the lvm hook does, perhaps I can recreate that
[23:25] <ryankrizan> Hello. I installed 14.04 fresh this afternoon, and promptly updated the OS, and installed gnome-shell via terminal. However LightDM doesn't even have the selector wheel to select Gnome instead of "Ubuntu"
[23:26] <Daekdroom> !info gnome-session
[23:26] <diecastarts> can someone please take a look at this.. having a problem running any game from steam. almost opens and getting a badwindow error from x11 here is the pastebin        http://pastebin.com/pRNmtQSu
[23:26] <Daekdroom> ryankrizan, I think you need the gnome-session package for it to appear in the login screen.
[23:27] <ryankrizan> just installed. Trying now, be right back.
[23:27] <ki7rw> veryhappy: can't get it to install - very strange since the other upgraded-to-trusty boxes are working ok with skype
[23:27] <brucevein> argh
[23:27] <brucevein> im pretty sure software raid is the culprit for my problems
[23:29] <veryhappy> diecastarts: your program has a segmentation fault http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Segmentation_fault
[23:30] <kowalski> reboot
[23:30] <veryhappy> ki7rw: try this way http://www.enqlu.com/2014/03/how-to-install-skype-42-in-ubuntu-1404.html
[23:30] <diecastarts> veryhappy, thanks reading up
[23:30] <zykotick9> diecastarts: sidenote - i know, i'm not alone, in never visiting pastebin.com, you might want to consider alternative paste sites in future, paste.ubuntu.com as one option
[23:30] <ki7rw> veryhappy: already tried that
[23:31] <irssiuser> want to dist-upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04LTS. downloaded & mounted loop iso
[23:31] <bsutton> #asterisk-dev
[23:31] <irssiuser> how do I do dist-upgrade from cdrom?
[23:31] <kupo_> you all stoked that 14.10 will be  unicorn?
[23:32] <zykotick9> kupo_: non-support questions belong in #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:32] <kupo_> oh my bad
[23:33] <veryhappy> ki7rw: download skype from the original site http://www.skype.com/en/ and open the file with ubuntu-software-center, maybe that helps
[23:33] <diecastarts> ok well this wiki tell me what it is but no ways to fix it
[23:33] <ki7rw> tried that also
[23:34] <chedda1> anybody know what utility allows you to use your keyboard/mouse across different systems?
[23:36] <diecastarts> So how do i fix a Segmentation_fault.
[23:37] <diecastarts> seem odd all was working.. till i booted up and steam updated today.
[23:37] <zykotick9> diecastarts: you probably don't.  use better software?
[23:39] <diecastarts> if you no going to say something helpful then keep it to yourself please
[23:41] <kiilo> @diecastarts probably hard to fix ... can you do a paste.http://paste.ubuntu.com
[23:41]  * ki7rw just loves it when a distro upgrade breaks stuff
[23:42] <ki7rw> i'll just have to try a fresh install
[23:42] <diecastarts> k I try to start a game again and make a new paste
[23:42] <kiilo> oki sorry i didnt see your paste
[23:46] <diecastarts> Ok i think that is from the start of the running L4D2 http://paste.ubuntu.com/7318463/
[23:47] <cccc----> I'm compiling with make\gcc
[23:47] <cccc----> ./include/AESEngine.h:21:25: fatal error: openssl/aes.h: No such file or directory
[23:47] <cccc----> On debian I can compile this same library without issue any idea what package i need
[23:47] <cccc----> -this same source
[23:48] <cccc----> openssl has to be installed...
[23:48] <cccc----> yeah it is
[23:48] <_irssiuser> how do I dist-upgrade from cdrom?
[23:48] <kiilo> mmmh - "/home/diecastarts/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/common/dota 2 beta/dota.sh: line 81:" - what is in line 81???
[23:49] <daftykins> _irssiuser: dist-upgrade doesn't have anything to do with upgrading version
[23:49] <cccc----> maybe i need lib-ssl-dev
[23:49] <cccc----> meh
[23:49] <diecastarts> kiilo, will look.. but this happening to all games i run from steam
[23:49] <cccc----> yeah that worked sorry all
[23:49] <zykotick9> daftykins: well... sorta...
[23:49] <_irssiuser> daftykins how do I upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04LTS using a cdrom?
[23:50] <daftykins> _irssiuser: i think you need an alternate CD for that, standard desktop image won't work
[23:50] <zykotick9> _irssiuser: that is a better question!  re: daftykins comment.
[23:50] <daftykins> zykotick9: i should've qualified that further with 'distribution version' perhaps.
[23:50] <_irssiuser> daftykins what iso image do I use
[23:50] <zykotick9> !dist-upgrade
[23:51] <daftykins> _irssiuser: 'alternate'
[23:51] <rww> !alternate
[23:51] <zykotick9> _irssiuser: i believe, but could be wrong, that the regular dvd can now be used for the purpose you want -- but certainly don't know how.  downloading is certainly the easiest.
[23:52] <zykotick9> rww: thanks for the confirmation ;)
[23:52] <_irssiuser> daftykins I burned a regular dvd of amd64 desktop Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[23:52] <daftykins> ah ok, my friends 12.04 install did ask if it should use the 14.04 Live image as an upgrade source
[23:52] <veryhappy> chedda1: synergy
[23:53] <daftykins> _irssiuser: ok so just boot in to 13.10, insert the DVD then you'll get prompted to use it as a software update source
[23:53] <chedda1> @veryhappy thank you!
[23:53] <veryhappy> chedda1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynergyHowto
[23:53] <chedda1> thank you sir!
[23:54] <diecastarts> kiilo, here i cannot find out how to get the right line
[23:54] <diecastarts> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7318506/
[23:54] <_irssiuser> thanks
[23:57] <veryhappy> no offense, in my job i'm a customer consultant / call center agent, so i know how to provide solutions :)
[23:57] <d248> hello
[23:57] <d248> passing by
[23:58] <chedda1> keep up the good fight, your doing good
[23:58] <veryhappy> thank you
[23:58] <daftykins> *you're
[23:58] <veryhappy> d248: how can we help you?
[23:59] <d248> just see if i can join the crew
[23:59] <geartrooper> installing 14.04 fresh but I don't know how to set up the partitions
[23:59]  * d248 lurking


[04:34] <Logan_> Noskcaj: please merge in the new dhelp to fix the installation problem
[07:07] <Noskcaj> Logan_, Will do
[14:18] <Laney> anyone want to handle universe rebuilds for libical1 -> libical1a?


[18:28] <sarnold> nsh'
[18:28] <sarnold> nsh is an old pal of mine
[18:29] <sarnold> he's got a wikipedia page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauri_Love


 2 installs with daily Jammy 13-02-2022 - Firefox snap worked well - 10 to 15 seconds to load after selecting
 :) & wow.  I didn't realize firefox was now a snap on daily..  (didn't get time today to think about QA/daily)
 Yesterdays ISO was the first..with the snap (re @guiverc: :) & wow.  I didn't realize firefox was now a snap on daily..  (didn't get time today to think about QA/daily))
 I've mostly been looking at focal so my last jammy was a ~week ago
 (mostly referring to the time I've spent in QA/testing.. most is support as you @ KGIII cover testing so well)
 Sorry I didn't announce the Firefox change. I swapped us over to the snap. We will want to make a note for upgrading I think. I think it will be necessary to manually install the snap but I am not sure.
 In my limited testing it should retain your settings and extensions.
 All you have to do is select Firefox from the menu and it installs (in the background) no user imput needed (re @kc2bez: Sorry I didn't announce the Firefox change. I swapped us over to the snap. We will want to make a note for upgrading I think. I think it will be necessary to manually install the snap but I am not sure.)
 Will test updating and get back @kc2bez
 Thanks @Leokolb
 Ran an upgrade from 21.10 to Jammy - upgrade went well but Firefox was not on the menu(installed after the upgrade ..then opened Discover installed Firefox and all settings were retained (re @kc2bez: In my limited testing it should retain your settings and extensions.)
 Test result of upgrade @kc2bez http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/429/builds/244252/testcases/1310/results/
 Thanks @Leokolb That is helpful.
[11:22] <guiverc> thanks @Leokolb
 I think maybe too early for a bug report ?? Any thoughts? (re @kc2bez: Thanks @Leokolb That is helpful.)
 I think we will need to provide instructions in the release notes.
 Yes agree - but on second thought maybe best to bug report as it is not normal to be dropped from menu - against what package best to file? (re @kc2bez: I think we will need to provide instructions in the release notes.)
 Maybe lubuntu-default-settings would be best
 Fine ..will do - good to have on record (re @kc2bez: Maybe lubuntu-default-settings would be best)
 Thanks again!
 Thanks to you as well! (re @kc2bez: Thanks again!)
 I agree lubuntu-default-settings would be where I would file that bug report


 I installed liquorix kernel 6.3-2ubuntu1~lunar, signed it to secure boot and removed quite parameter but why i don't see any error, or warning message? Is there away to see more log message?
 I installed liquorix kernel 6.3-2ubuntu1~lunar, signed it to secure boot and removed the quite parameter but why i don't see any error, or warning message? Is there away to see more log message?
 Has anyone encountered this problem before? Suddenly there is no music output device
 https://irc-attachments.kde.org/3867a44f/image_2023_05_23_21_57_37.png
 How did u signed it to secure boot?
 I tried to do this but i could not (re @kentaro_ohama: I installed liquorix kernel 6.3-2ubuntu1~lunar, signed it to secure boot and removed the quite parameter but why i don't see any error, or warning message? Is there away to see more log message?)
 https://irc-attachments.kde.org/01ceb344/Signing_a_Linux_Kernel_for_Secure_Boot_Ubuntu_fo.md
 source https://gloveboxes.github.io/Ubuntu-for-Azure-Developers/docs/signing-kernel-for-secure-boot.html (re @kentaro_ohama: )
 Thank you so much
 Your Welcome (re @Omar: Thank you so much)
[10:33] <dontyouloveshor-> hi
[10:34] <dontyouloveshor-> just looking at the installer for kubuntu, i can either encrypt the whole drive and kill windows 11 or choose manual. with manual i created /boot 1gb and "crypto" 500gb but after that i can not click install - it just does not go forward, the button is not greyed out
[10:35] <dontyouloveshor-> what do i choose to get a encrypted lvm volume?
[10:44] <dontyouloveshor-> "use whole drive" basically sounds like i want to delete windows? ...which i do not want at this point
[11:34] <POTER228> How much free disk space do I need to install and use Kubuntu comfortably?
[12:38] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:38] <linux> Hi, I have sereral problem opening files in an application with another application. For example I can't open magnet links or torrent files in any browser with qbittorent even it is set as default application. I can only open torrent file in Dolphin or copy magnet link and then add in qbittorrent. Also VLC doesn't open video file in qbittorrent just in Dolphin even it is also set as default application for video files.
[12:39] <linux> Also I can't attach an jpg in any browser in facebook.
[12:41] <linux> qbittorrent installed with synaptic, browsers from flatpak
[12:50] <dontyouloveshor-> torrent is insecure, they got your balls in no time if you download crap...be warned
[12:51] <linux> How about attaching a picture on facebook?
[12:52] <linux> I know facebook also insecure but that's the only place where my stuff can be sold.
 https://irc-attachments.kde.org/dc8c2496/file_66015.jpg
[12:56] <guiverc> linux, you've not provided your OS/release details; but if a recent release with a snap version of firefox for example; being a snap it can't access your full file-system for security reasons thus the directories matter (you shouldn't have issues with $HOME or your user directory though some links may still be rejected)
[13:03] <mparillo> You can try with a native browser. Konqueror, Falkon, are both KDE projects and Qutebrowser is Qt, and none of them are snaps.
[13:10] <linux> Falkon works like a charm
[13:14] <linux> guiverc: https://pastebin.com/raw/1zfaRUFL
 What method did used to install your browser? (re @IrcsomeBot: <linux> Hi, I have sereral problem opening files in an application with another application. For example I can't open magnet links or torrent files in any browser with qbittorent even it is set as default application. I can only open torrent file in Dolphin or copy magnet link and then add in qbittorrent. Also VLC doesn't open video file in qbittorrent just in Dolphin even i
 Share your themes 🥹 (re @Anarchotaoist: )
 Good day all what are the samba ports to open for samba on firewall,to access windows machine.when i activate firewall i cannot connect when I disable I connect without a problem
[14:42] <dx3> mmikowski, no crash or freeze since 7+ days. \o/
[17:14] <mmikowski> Dx3 hey there you go. I pretty much consider backports to be essential and have been for many years IMO. Good on ya!
[17:57] <dontyouloveshor-> is there a log besides /vag/log/Xorg.* to look at when xorg starts eating randomly 100 percent cpu?   im on a ryzen 7940 laptop, fresh kubuntu 23.04 install


[00:01] <bbommarito> It took my initial push, but now when I push updates, it's not showing them.
[00:02]  * Yhouse e' away (Sto andando via)
[00:04] <Rinchen> bbommarito, what's the url of the branch?
[00:04] <Rinchen> I'll take a look
[00:05] <bbommarito> I deleted it, and repushed it. Let me run a test, and see if it picks up this time, and if not, I will let you know.
[00:05] <Rinchen> k
[00:07] <bbommarito> So I should be able to just bzr push?
[00:09] <bbommarito> Okay pushed, and it's not acting like it was updated: https://code.launchpad.net/~bbommarito/gtdruby/trunk
[00:11] <bbommarito> BTW: bzr running on OS X Leopard using the prebuilt installer.
[00:13] <Peng> Currently there are 2 revisions in the branch and LP shows both of them.
[00:13] <Peng> $ bzr log lp:~bbommarito/gtdruby/trunk
[00:14] <Rinchen> yeah bbommarito, looks good to me
[00:20] <bbommarito> There should be a third revision, that I just pushed like 10 minutes ago:)
[00:20] <bbommarito> 15 minutes, actually.
[00:28] <bbommarito> Okay, it took. So you can't just do a bzr push, you have to physically enter the push url
[00:31] <Rinchen> bbommarito, you can however you need to have locations.conf setup
[00:31] <Rinchen> bbommarito, more on that over on the bzr page
[00:32] <Rinchen> bbommarito, you can also do bzr push --remember
[00:33] <bbommarito> Okay, sounds good then.
[00:35] <kblin> hmm, is there somewhere I can tell launchpad to not send me notifications for blueprints I changed myself?
[00:56] <Rinchen> kblin, not at the moment
[00:57] <Rinchen> ok, I'm off. See you all next week
[02:08] <wgrant> Erm.
[02:08] <wgrant> I think somebody just destroyed the MOTU approval process.
[02:08] <wgrant> There's no way to see what packages people have uploaded now.
[02:09] <wgrant> Rather than there being one which lacked some, there is now nothing even slightly useful...
[03:27] <paulburton> There's a bug building mono applications on the 'platinum' xen-amd64 build machine (for hardy), is there somewhere I can report that?
[03:28] <wgrant> paulburton: It's probably a bug in your build system. What makes you think it's a bug in the buildd?
[03:28] <wgrant> We build an awful lot of Mono stuff fine.
[03:28] <paulburton> because if it ends up on any machine other than platinum it builds fine
[03:28] <paulburton> and the error is in packages installing assemblies into the GAC
[03:28] <wgrant> Even on another xen-amd64 buildd?
[03:28] <paulburton> yes
[03:28] <paulburton> see http://launchpadlibrarian.net/15836353/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-amd64.galaxium-svn_0.8~svn1054-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[03:28] <wgrant> That's strange, as they should all use the same chroot.
[03:30] <wgrant> Oh.
[03:30] <wgrant> I see.
[03:30] <wgrant> Looks like a kernel issue, maybe.
[03:30] <wgrant> I suppose that's an infinity bug.
[03:31] <wgrant> Looks like https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-mono/2008-June/012669.html
[03:31] <wgrant> So maybe it's a Mono bug.
[03:35] <paulburton> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/237724
[03:35] <paulburton> :)
[03:53] <LaserJock> wgrant: what do you mean about the uploaded packages?
[04:10] <wgrant> LaserJock: We can only see 50 of each category now.
[04:10] <LaserJock> hmm
[04:11] <LaserJock> I see that
[04:11] <wgrant> That is not how one should be fixing performance issues.
[04:13] <LaserJock> wgrant: well at *least* we should be able to get the full list somewhere
[04:14] <wgrant> LaserJock: I'm not sure we can, short of poking a DBA.
[04:18] <LaserJock> wgrant: that's not exactly acceptable
[04:20] <wgrant> Well, I guess that recent events show that the MOTU approval processes isn't good anyway, so I guess it's not much of a loss.
[04:20] <wgrant> s/processes/process/
[05:17] <cody-somerville> hmmm...
[05:17] <cody-somerville> launchpad looks a little different
[05:19] <wgrant> It's still got a lot of changes left, but I didn't expect them to get onto it this quickly.
[05:20] <cody-somerville> Personally, I find some of the recent changes distracting
[05:20] <cody-somerville> Makes the bug description difficult to read
[05:21] <wgrant> Oh, you're talking about those changes?
[05:21] <Peng> (I agree.)
[05:22] <cody-somerville> wgrant, well, when I said launchpad looks a little different I was actually referring to the table of actions being on the right instead of left
[05:42] <capiscuas1982> is there any script to upload packages (.EXE, .DMG, .DEB, .TAR.GZ) into my launchpad project releases automatically ?
[05:43] <thumper> capiscuas1982: not that I know of
[05:43] <thumper> but that doesn't mean definitively that there isn't :)
[05:44] <capiscuas1982> i was thinking about doing with SVN or BZR into a separate branch for packages, but it's not the ideal.
[05:53] <capiscuas1982> why LP doesn't support downloads counts in the release files?
[05:53] <capiscuas1982> like sourceforge or google code downloads.
[06:35] <wgrant> 5~/win 21
[06:35] <wgrant> Gah.
[06:39] <thumper> capiscuas1982: no idea, why not file a but?
[06:39] <thumper> s/but/bug
[06:39] <thumper> filing a but sounds painful
[06:53] <capiscuas1982> hehehe, i will.
[07:30] <wgrant> win 7
[07:30] <wgrant> Thanks gnome-terminal.
[08:16] <ajmorris> hi, just wondering about the status of mailing lists?
[08:48] <serega> hi there
[08:49] <serega> how can I unsubscribe from a bug? really can't find a way
[08:51] <wgrant> serega: You use the button at the bottom of the subscribers list/.
[08:54] <serega> wgrant, ahm thanks
[11:10] <capiscuas1982> anybody knows about any script to upload files into a release automaticaly?
[11:41] <savvas> does anyone know how to change permissions to a file in bazaar?
[11:45] <savvas> I've changed the file permissions from -rwxr-xr-x to -rwxr--r--, tried to remove and re-add the file, but the file is still there with the 755 permission... is that a default?
[11:48] <savvas> oops, wrong channel :)
[12:29] <sivang> hi all
[12:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi mate
[12:29] <sivang> can someone remind me please how to search for bugs reported / worked on by someone and filed only on a specific project? (like launchpad)
[12:29] <sivang> Kamping_Kaiser: hey dude
[12:29] <sivang> Kamping_Kaiser: whassup ?
[12:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> sivang, trying to decide if setting upa  buildd 'properly' would be easier or harder then a custom setup :) yourself?
[12:31] <andrea-bs> sivang: for launchpad, go there: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bugs?advanced=1 and fill the Assignee/Reporter field
[12:31] <sivang> andrea-bs: why thanks andrea-bs
[12:32] <andrea-bs> sivang: of course, if you are looking for bugs in ubuntu, replace "launchpad" with "ubuntu" ;)
[12:32] <sivang> Kamping_Kaiser: actually no :) applying for the launchpad QA engineer position, wanted to supply link to the bug(s) I worked on in launchpad a while ago
[12:32] <sivang> andrea-bs: right, I just wanted a url, the UI sometimes bewilders me :)
[12:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> sivang, cool!
[12:33] <andrea-bs> sivang: just to help improving the ui, can you tell me where you would like to see the form?
[12:37] <sivang> andrea-bs: okay, so if for starters I hit on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ , I would excpet to be able to find all bugs with my name mentioned on a specific project by choosing "launchpad itself" at the "One Project" radio button and simply entering "sivan" in the "search bug report" submission box
[12:37] <sivang> andrea-bs: sort of, google way of searching through the DB
[12:37] <sivang> andrea-bs: I don't need to tell google to look at the sender field, but it does
[12:37] <sivang> andrea-bs: it is very convinient
[12:38] <andrea-bs> sivang: many thanks!
[12:39] <andrea-bs> sivang: I'm going to report a bug about that, thank you
[12:40] <sivang> andrea-bs: also, I see it takes me more then few secs to figure how to reach the advanced search, am I blind or is it hidden well somewhere
[12:40]  * sivang is well aware that he might be overlooking
[12:41] <andrea-bs> sivang: you can access the advanced form only in a person page or a project page, not currently in bugs.launchpad.net
[12:41] <andrea-bs> sivang: I'll report this too ;)
[12:41] <sivang> AH
[12:41] <sivang> ah
[12:41] <sivang> heh
[12:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> sivang, i was here commenting on the search a few days ago too ;)
[12:42] <sivang> ironic that as I want to apply for the QA position, I come across two issues just like that :)
[12:42] <sivang> andrea-bs: cc please on the bug reports so I can test the fix when its published
[12:43] <andrea-bs> sivang: surely
[12:43] <sivang> Kamping_Kaiser: well, it is hard not to feel the awkwardness of not being able to reach the advanced search in a straight forward way
[12:45] <sivang> andrea-bs: hmm, I can't find my bugs, should I be looking at at the specification tracker's product ?
[12:45] <sivang> (my bugs were against it)
[12:46] <wgrant> sivang: Use launchpad-project rather than launchpad. It covers all of the Launchpad app bugs.
[12:47] <andrea-bs> sivang: note also that if they are Fix Released, Invalid, Won't fix or duplicates, they won't be shown by default
[12:47] <sivang> andrea-bs: ah, okay so I need to set this on
[12:47] <sivang> wgrant: thanks
[12:49] <sivang> how can I search a specific project from here , https://bugs.launchpad.net/~sivan?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch=&field.h
[12:49] <sivang> oops
[12:50] <sivang> I mean, I want to cut down the bug list in "Bugs related to Sivan Greenberg" by project
[12:51] <andrea-bs> sivang: you need to use the "Bug subscriber" field
[12:52] <andrea-bs> sivang: here you are: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-project/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INVALID&field.status%3Alist=WONTFIX&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.status%3A
[12:52] <andrea-bs> list=FIXRELEASED&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_supervisor=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=sivan&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_cve.used=&field.tag=&field.tags_combinator=ANY&search=Search
[12:53] <Hobbsee> tinyurl?
[12:53] <sivang> andrea-bs: what's edge ?
[12:53] <Nafallo> sivang: betatesters version :-)
[12:53] <sivang> andrea-bs: cool, that is the search I wanted
[12:54] <sivang> Nafallo: ah, cool
[12:54] <Nafallo> sivang: hey dude. haven't seen you in a while :-)
[12:54] <andrea-bs> sivang: http://tinyurl.com/5j65uy :)
[12:55] <Nafallo> also, http://linkpot.net/limbs/
[12:55] <Nafallo> :-)
[12:57] <ajmorris> hi, just wondering what the status of mailing lists is?
[12:59] <porthose> I am trying to update the bzr branch of https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~motu-mentoring-reception/reception-data/main, I have made the need changes to reception.cvs and committed them locally with no problems, norsetto has made me part of the mentoring reception team in launchpad, and I have created and uploaded an ssh key to my page, however when I go to push the changes to launchpad I get this error http://pastebin.com/m39143f5d could someone please t
[13:01] <wgrant> porthose: You need to run bzr launchpad-login.
[13:02] <porthose> Ok will try that
[13:07] <porthose> wgrant:  when I run "bzr lauchpad-login <my lp username> I get bzr: ERROR: unknown command "launchpad-login"
[13:14] <wgrant> porthose: Which version of bzr are you using?
[13:15] <porthose> checking
[13:16] <porthose> bzr-0.15-0ubuntu2
[13:17] <wgrant> Oh.
[13:17] <wgrant> That's... fairly old.
[13:17] <porthose> I need to upgrade don't I
[13:17] <wgrant> Not necessarily.
[13:17] <wgrant> Try pushing to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[13:17] <porthose> trying
[13:20] <porthose> wgrant: that worked thanks for the help :)
[13:21] <wgrant> porthose: np
[13:25] <rleigh_> Hi folks, sorry if this is OT.  When launchpad was set up, IIRC Debian developers were created accounts automatically; does the same apply to the forums?  I've tried to register using "rleigh" as the user, but apparently I can't do that (or reset the password--is it locked?).
[13:30] <andrea-bs> rleigh_: this account already exist: https://launchpad.net/~rleigh
[13:30] <andrea-bs> rleigh_: does it belongs to you?
[13:31] <rleigh_> andrea-bs: Yes.
[13:32] <rleigh_> andrea-bs: I was wondering if the launchpad accounts were also used by the forum software, or if they were separate.
[13:32] <andrea-bs> rleigh_: they are separate
[13:33] <andrea-bs> rleigh_: if you want to reset the password, go to this page: https://launchpad.net/+forgottenpassword
[13:33] <rleigh_> andrea-bs: OK, thanks.  I wasn't able to create a forum account with the same name, so I thought there might be some account already created that was just locked.
[13:34] <gnomefreak> wgrant: the beta version was it meant to have everything from right hand side of bug report moved to left?
[13:35] <wgrant> gnomefreak: Other way around, you mean?
[13:35] <gnomefreak> of is this something on my browser
[13:35] <gnomefreak> wgrant: yes
[13:35] <wgrant> Yes.
[13:35] <wgrant> This is the start of the nice shiny new UI.
[13:35] <gnomefreak> oh ok ick i guess i have to work with it and maybe it will grow on me
[13:35] <wgrant> There are bigger changes coming.
[13:36] <gnomefreak> i like changes just some take me by suprise
[14:24] <capiscuas1982> google code has a python script to automatically upload files into the Download section, does LP has something similar?
[14:26] <andrea-bs> capiscuas1982: not now, but soon the Launchpad team will release a set of API to interact with the entire infrastructure :-)
[14:27] <capiscuas1982> cool to hear that, cause i was thinking to do an automatic HTTP POST script in python
[14:27] <capiscuas1982> i know if they would like that
[14:48] <jamesh> capiscuas1982: there are other people scripting the web interface like that
[14:49] <jamesh> capiscuas1982: we don't actively discourage it, but it is not a stable interface
[14:50] <jamesh> the APIs stuff andrea-bs mentioned will give you something supported to work with, but feel free to use mechanize or similar in the short term if it makes your life easier
[15:17] <zoli2k> Hi. I uploaded my first package to PPA using dput but nothing seems to be happen. My "Build record" is empty on the launchpad.net.
[15:18] <Hobbsee> did you get a mail?
[15:19] <zoli2k> ok, just few seconds ago
[15:20] <capiscuas1982> james: thks, any idea of that people using script, how can I get it?
[15:20] <Hobbsee> zoli2k: then wait.  it takes a while :)
[15:20] <jamesh> capiscuas1982: I don't know about people using scripts for what you want to do
[15:20] <jamesh> capiscuas1982: but some people do script some bugs related pages
[15:28] <zoli2k> How can I specify for which release will be built a PPA package?
[15:32] <qball> how does the option in translations work that I set f.e. the gnome translation group as responsible for translating my app?
[15:36] <andrea-bs> qball: you may find this page useful: https://help.launchpad.net/Translations/YourProject/Draft#Translations%20groups
[15:39] <Hobbsee> zoli2k: in the debian/control file
[16:44] <zoli2k> Hobbsee: thx
[17:27] <khalderon> hi
[17:27] <khalderon> I have a question
[17:27] <khalderon> actually it is a problem
[17:27] <khalderon> I cannot use my account anymore
[17:27] <khalderon> I can't even login to see why
[17:28] <khalderon> I would appreciate any help on this problem!
[17:28] <andrea-bs> khalderon: what does launchpad tell you?
[17:28] <khalderon> the profile says: khalderon does not use Launchpad.
[17:29]  * Yhouse e' away (Sto andando via)
[17:29] <khalderon> trying to login: This account cannot be used.
[17:30] <andrea-bs> mh... this is a frequent issue since some days ago
[17:30] <andrea-bs> you should wait for a Launchpad admin
[17:30] <khalderon> okay
[17:30] <khalderon> I will wait for him/her
[17:31] <andrea-bs> otherwise you can know how to get help here: https://help.launchpad.net/Feedback
[17:34] <Ng> if I upload a new pot for something and only one string changed, but that moved all the other strings to different line numbers, will LP think they are all untranslated? or will it just show the one different string as needing work?
[17:38] <khalderon> is the admin mrevell?
[17:38] <khalderon> I was told he/she must be very friendly...
[17:39] <Ng> mrevell isn't an admin, but should be able to help. I doubt he'll be around until monday though.
[17:41] <khalderon> damn... :(
[17:57] <Volans> Hi all, I have a quesion about Teams on LP.How a team admin can send an alert to all the team's members without manually searching all their email addresses?
[17:59] <andrea-bs> Volans: unfortunately this feature hasn't been implemented yet
[17:59] <andrea-bs> Volans: if you have a mailing list and all members are subscribed to it, you can use it
[18:00] <Volans> andrea-bs: thanks for the reply but the problem is exactly this one, not all members are subscribed to the ML and someone doesn't have any public email address
[18:00] <andrea-bs> Volans: otherwise, if the team is a bug subscriber of a project, you can submit a bug report
[18:00] <Volans> interesting workaround :)
[18:01] <andrea-bs> Volans: I'll report a bug about that
[18:02] <Volans> ok thank you, will be great if you can tell me the bug number then I can follow it ;)
[18:17] <DaftKranz> any launchpad admin around? I need to switch my @ubuntu.com alias to a different address since I'm cut off with my current one
[18:27] <khalderon> I am also waiting for a launchpad admin
[20:46] <Stavros> hello
[20:46] <Stavros> what is the proper place for users to submit feature suggestions to a project?
[21:12] <RenatoSilva> : https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/martian-modem/+bugs ---> this page notes martian-modem source package, but I can't find that package in Synaptic. What's it?
[22:44] <pep> Hi, I filed a question to get two projects deleted, was that the right procedure?


[02:58] <Gareth> nhaines: where do we stand with the rest of the UbuCon talks?
[08:28] <raevol> pleia2: you awake?
[08:30] <raevol> hmm, nevermind, will send you an email
[08:41] <raevol> philipballew: you awake?
[08:41] <philipballew> yes i am raevol whats up?
[08:41] <raevol> doesn't scale have a twitter?
[08:41] <philipballew> yeah. I think I follow them. ill grab the link
[08:42] <raevol> schweet thanks
[08:42] <raevol> my google-fu is failing me
[08:43] <philipballew> http://twitter.com/socallinuxexpo
[08:43] <raevol> and by that i mean i didn't click the twitter link on their website -_-
[08:43] <raevol> thank you very much though
[08:43] <philipballew> no problem. will you be there?
[08:44] <raevol> yes :D just registered
[08:44] <raevol> also volunteering at the ubuntu booth
[08:46] <philipballew> I will see you at the booth then
[08:47] <raevol> :D
[19:38] <philipballew> Scale speech accepted!
[19:38] <philipballew> im all good to go
[19:38] <philipballew> added and everything
[19:39] <nhaines> Gareth: Attempting to line up one more, and waiting for verification on the other.
[19:40] <nhaines> Gareth: I just realized that I should probably just submit the lightning talk session under myself, similarly to the Q&A session.
[19:40] <Gareth> nhaines: is everyone but one registered in the CFP system?
[19:40] <Gareth> nhaines: yeah. that works.  Once the lightning talk session is submitted, I can approve it and post it.
[19:41] <nhaines> The other speaker hasn't gotten back to me.  I'm sure he will be there and can do it, but I like to be sure.
[19:42] <Gareth> How many speakers haven't registered and submitted their talks yet?
[19:42] <nhaines> One, and potentially one more if I can line up another talk.
[19:42] <Gareth> okay
[19:42] <nhaines> (Also known as "one, but hopefully I can make it two.")  :D
[19:44] <Gareth> hm. don't see any additional UbuCon talks.
[19:44] <Gareth> Just see you and pleia2
[19:45] <nhaines> And another speaker who hasn't confirmed, and I am persuing another speaker.
[19:46] <Gareth> ah okay. I see.
[22:08] <MarkDude> Here is a link to me in the flashmob http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1YxO64VgmE I am a few steps behind.
[22:10] <akk> Cool! That's just rehearsal, right?
[22:12] <akk> BTW, my cape gooseberry did survive the freeze and seems fine.
[22:14] <MarkDude> Yes akk, the rest of it only sorta has me in background
[22:14] <MarkDude> to hide my crappy danicin'
[22:15] <MarkDude> I had 2 plants die, and one die by half
[22:15] <MarkDude> Lost about 20 cherries
[22:16] <akk> Wow, gooseberrocalypse!
[22:16] <akk> Glad one's still at least partly alive.
[22:17] <MarkDude> Well, I have 4 that are perfect
[22:17] <MarkDude> they have very few cherries tho
[22:17] <akk> Your dancing looks like it would be fine for a flash mob.
[22:18] <akk> I think everybody lags behind a little while they're learning a routine.
[22:24] <MarkDude> thx
[22:24] <MarkDude> some lag more than others
[22:24] <MarkDude> ;)
[22:25] <MarkDude> Should I get the sirt for D now?
[22:25] <nhaines> pleia2: hooray for Simcoe!  \o/
[22:25]  * MarkDude is going to Chuckie Cheese now - lol
[22:28] <akk> Sure, go ahead on the shirt -- we're home now.
[22:28] <akk> Chuckee cheese, woo
[22:28]  * akk wants pizza, but preferably at a somewhat quieter place than that
[22:29] <nhaines> Also Chuck-E-Cheeze pizza tastes like greasy cardboard.


[01:06] <emgent> SteveA: ping
[01:33] <noelbush> How can I cancel imports of a branch?
[01:35] <wgrant> noelbush: I'd suggest filing a question at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[01:35] <wgrant> Actually, maybe launchpad-bazaar instead.
[01:36] <noelbush> wgrant: Okay, thanks. I filed a question on the project itself, and assigned it to vcs-imports, but I'm getting the impression that wasn't right....
[01:36] <wgrant> Right, it should be against launchpad-bazaar.
[08:49] <lool> Hi folks; since at least 3.5 hours, launchpad requests timeout one time out of tree for me or so; I end up on some Launchpad internal proxy page: Please try again,  Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server.
[08:49] <lool> (with Launchpad theming)
[08:50] <lool> Often, just stopping and re-issuing the request in my browser loads instantly
[08:51] <lool> But once a request starts taking a while, it will always timeout
[08:52] <lool> I was using edge until 10 minutes ago or so
[09:11] <gnomefreak> what is going on in launchpad? it doesnt load most pages on  first try this is using edge
[09:14] <Hew> yea I've been having Launchpad timeout problems as well, on edge
[09:17] <wgrant> We can hope a LOSA will notice soon enough...
[09:22] <gnomefreak> disabling it still uses edge
[09:23] <wgrant> Only if you click direct edge links.
[09:23] <gnomefreak> ah thats right
[12:38] <BulatSirazetdino> Hi! Ubuntu wiki fails to log me in via Launchpad OpenID login (It says HTTP error 500). What should I do ? (Never tried to login to Ubuntu wiki page before)
[12:48] <BulatSirazetdino> Problem somehow magically resolved. :)
[12:49] <BulatSirazetdino> Don't know how. :) Maybe it was a temporary error, or maybe loggin in through help.ubuntu.com helped. :-/
[12:49] <gnomefreak> is there an issue with PPA (not using edge)\
[12:51] <wgrant> gnomefreak: You seem to have some hint that there is an issue. What is this perceived issue?
[12:51] <gnomefreak> i keep getting rejected upload. its telling me tar.gz already exsits in ubuntu primary archive
[12:51] <gnomefreak> the files in DSC  are broken or missing
[12:51] <wgrant> Can you pastebin the email, please?
[12:51] <gnomefreak> maybe a bzr error?
[12:51] <gnomefreak> yeah one sec
[12:51] <wgrant> PPAs know nothing at all about bzr.
[12:52] <gnomefreak> bzr was used to build it, maybe it is broken
[12:52] <gnomefreak> wgrant: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/594789
[12:52]  * Hobbsee notes you're probably uploading a tarball with the same file name as one in the ubuntu archive
[12:53] <Hobbsee> (which has a different checksum)
[12:53] <gnomefreak> this package shouldnt be in ubuntu archives
[12:54] <Hobbsee> sarah@neptune:~% rmadison vimperator                                    11:53PM
[12:54] <Hobbsee> vimperator |      1.1-1 | intrepid/universe | source
[12:54] <Hobbsee> vimperator |      1.2-1 | jaunty/universe | source
[12:54] <Hobbsee> it is...
[12:54] <wgrant> That looks like a bug to me.
[12:54] <wgrant> It should look for it in primary if it's there.
[12:54] <wgrant> But it shouldn't complain if it doesn't match, IMO.
[12:54] <wgrant> It should only care about its existence in primary if it's the same file.
[12:54] <gnomefreak> bug 308532
[12:55]  * Hobbsee stomps on launchpad
[12:55]  * Hobbsee notes the 30 second mark
[12:55] <gnomefreak> its not in Jaunty
[12:55] <Hobbsee> 40...
[12:56] <Hobbsee> 50....
[12:56] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: then why does rmadison say it is?
[12:56] <wgrant> Hobbsee: Note the topic.
[12:56] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: you showed intrepid
[12:56] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: read the next line.
[12:56] <gnomefreak> oph both
[12:56] <Hobbsee> wgrant: point.
[12:56] <gnomefreak> W: Unable to locate package vimperator
[12:56] <gnomefreak> E: No packages found
[12:57] <Hobbsee> do you have universe enabled?
[12:57] <gnomefreak> yes
[12:57] <gnomefreak> gnomefreak@Development:~$ show vimperator
[12:57] <gnomefreak> W: Unable to locate package vimperator
[12:57] <gnomefreak> E: No packages found
[12:57] <wgrant> It's a source name.
[12:57] <wgrant> It doesn't produce a binary named vimperator.
[12:57] <Hobbsee> http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/jaunty/vimperator
[12:58] <gnomefreak> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/594796
[12:58] <wgrant> iceweasel-vimperator, isn't it?
[12:58] <wgrant> 'apt-cache show' doesn't care about source names.
[12:58] <wgrant> And vimperator is just a source name.
[12:59] <Hobbsee> darn, was going to mark it won'tfix.
[12:59]  * Hobbsee claims it for 5 a day regardless
[12:59] <gnomefreak> no its showing vimperator in the changelog
[12:59] <gnomefreak> it looks to have been merged
[13:00] <Hobbsee> oh?
[13:00] <gnomefreak> http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/v/vimperator/vimperator_1.2-1/changelog
[13:01] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: and why do you think that's been merged?
[13:01] <gnomefreak> all debian emails
[13:01] <Hobbsee> and again?
[13:01] <gnomefreak> no ubuntu in package name
[13:01] <Hobbsee> so, why's it then a merge?
[13:02] <Hobbsee> is it not a sync, with no ubuntu changes?
[13:02] <gnomefreak> it should have ubuntu changes
[13:02] <Hobbsee> why?
[13:02] <wgrant> It should.
[13:02] <wgrant> But it doesn't.
[13:03] <wgrant> We don't carry iceweasel, so it is probably now broken.
[13:03] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: we are not in debian and our version should show ubuntu changes
[13:03] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: if ubuntu changes were actually made, which they weren't.
[13:03] <Hobbsee> we can't show non-existant changes, right?
[13:03] <gnomefreak> wgrant: someone decided to merge ice* packages when they shouldnt have
[13:03] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: have you heard of the autosync?
[13:03] <Nafallo> merge or sync?
[13:03] <gnomefreak> ok we dont have unstable
[13:04] <Hobbsee> Nafallo: it's a sync, but gnomefreak appears to be confused.
[13:04] <Nafallo> merge isn't sync :-)
[13:04] <wgrant> gnomefreak: The autosyncer automatically synced some packages from Debian. WOw.
[13:04] <gnomefreak> yeah i know i thought after i said it
[13:04]  * Hobbsee hates the thought of syncing everything by hand
[13:04] <Nafallo> gnomefreak: there are two ways we can get a new package from Debian.
[13:04] <Nafallo> gnomefreak: if we have manual changes, someone needs to touch the package and merge it.
[13:05] <Nafallo> gnomefreak: if not. we can just download the source from Debian and build it on our toolchain. sync it.
[13:05] <Nafallo> it seems we have done the latter.
[13:05] <gnomefreak> we dont have unstable so why wouldnt the target be changed (thats why i cant find it in jaunty
[13:05] <wgrant> ... huh?
[13:05] <gnomefreak> read http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/v/vimperator/vimperator_1.2-1/changelog
[13:06] <Hobbsee> logic...fail?
[13:06] <wgrant> You'll find that in about 15000 of our packages, I suspect.
[13:06] <gnomefreak> wgrant: not here with show
[13:06] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: syncs have *no* ubuntu changes.  except some binary mangling.  the sources stay exactly the same, thus, debian/changelog doesn't change.
[13:06] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: ubuntu overrides them, for hte correct release.
[13:06] <Hobbsee> the binaries that is, not the sources.
[13:06] <Hobbsee> just like some get overriden to main
[13:07] <Nafallo> gnomefreak: launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/vimperator
[13:08]  * Hobbsee notes apt-cache show looks at the overriden binaries, not the untouched sources
[13:08] <gnomefreak> damnit
[13:08] <gnomefreak> i see what happenred
[13:09] <Nafallo> iz feature, not a bug :-)
[13:09] <gnomefreak> vimperator should be bin. and iceweasel should be source no? since its gonna end up a transitional package
[13:09] <Nafallo> ehrm
[13:09] <Hobbsee> errrrr....
[13:09]  * wgrant is confused.
[13:09] <wgrant> My head just exploded.
[13:09] <gnomefreak> same with the other iceweasel packages
[13:09] <Nafallo> vimperator is the source that builds iceweasel-vimperator
[13:09] <Nafallo> with builds, I mean make a binary
[13:09] <Hobbsee> I think i'll leave someone else to deal with that apparent lack of logic and understanding.
[13:11] <gnomefreak> well either we re release it with mods to deps or we change it to transitional package
[13:11] <wgrant> What is it a transitional package to?
[13:11] <wgrant> firefox-vimperator?
[13:11] <gnomefreak> other wise it wont install
[13:12] <gnomefreak> wgrant: yes we would have it use vimperator like we do with the other extensions
[13:12] <gnomefreak> but either way it wont install without changing deps atleast
[13:12]  * Hobbsee wonders why we don't just have a transitional iceweasel package, to save us this headache.
[13:12] <gnomefreak> thats why i filed a bug on removing iceweasel packages
[13:13] <wgrant> The plugins need path changes as well, don't they?
[13:13] <wgrant> ANd if you're making path changes, you might as well change the deps as well.
[13:13] <Hobbsee> oh, that's apoint - so nothing should be syncable anyway
[13:13] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: we are working on them however its easier to use finished packages. we plan on having debian drop inceweasel
[13:13] <wgrant> Drop iceweasel in favour of what?
[13:14] <Hobbsee> epiphany, obviously
[13:14] <Hobbsee> ;)
[13:14] <Nafallo> but but... does vimperator work on epiphany? :-P
[13:14] <gnomefreak> wgrant: just the package. we are working on getting debian to use (example) vimperator instead of iceweasel-vimperator
[13:15] <Nafallo> s/package/binary/
[13:15] <wgrant> gnomefreak: Just the name in front of extension names, you mean?
[13:15] <gnomefreak> and hopfully ad deps needed for us before we sync them anymore
[13:15] <gnomefreak> wgrant: yes
[13:15] <wgrant> That makes a little more sense.
[13:15] <gnomefreak> other wise syncing they is useless
[13:15] <gnomefreak> s/they/them
[13:16] <Hobbsee> which will make them automatically use our paths, not debian's, or?
[13:19] <gnomefreak> hopfully but we will see once we get there, IIRC asac was gonna work on that
[13:22] <Nafallo> wgrant: you went to bed or so?
[14:10] <tcr> Is there a way to explicitly link a bug to other, related bugs?
[14:11] <tcr> Except for adding a comment that says "If you fix this, take also a look at Bug #42"
[14:31] <Hew> tcr: Apart from marking bugs as duplicates, the only other way is to leave the bug # in the description or a comment.
[14:33] <tcr> Hew: I'd be inclined to add a feature request for this. The reason is that such a feature should cross-link. Otherwise I'd have to add a comment to each related bug involved.
[14:47] <tcr> https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/310238
[16:08] <alimon> someone knows robert-in-au user??
[17:50] <soc> hi
[17:50] <soc> i want to build a package for 2 releases, jaunty and intrepid, how do i do that?!
[17:51] <soc> originally i copied the source from another ppa, which had it built for hardy, now i built it for jaunty
[17:51] <soc> but if i want to build it again for intrpeid i get the error:
[17:51] <soc> The following source cannot be copied: qgtkstyle 858-0ubuntu0 in intrepid (same version already has published binaries in the destination archive)
[19:39] <mwhudson> edge seems ok to me, are people still having problems?
[19:54] <mwhudson> ah, now it craps out on me
[20:09] <mwhudson> hmmm
[21:11] <savvas0> hi, is there a way to contact the vcs-imports team? It's about the errors on this code import: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/frostwire/trunk
[21:13] <savvas0> I suppose they forgot to use the correct username/password
[21:22] <wgrant> savvas0: Ask a question at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar/+addquestion
[21:22] <savvas0> thanks wgrant, on my way!
[21:25] <wgrant> mwhudson: You might want to put the launchpad link back at the start.
[21:25] <wgrant> But edge is better now?
[21:27] <savvas0> edge works here
[21:34] <mwhudson> wgrant: yay xchat
[21:34] <mwhudson> wgrant: thanks
[21:34] <mwhudson> wgrant: and yes, edge should be better now
[21:35] <wgrant> mwhudson: Excellent, thanks.
[21:36] <mwhudson> it was a well-timed outage for eluding attention for as long as possible...
[21:36] <wgrant> Yep.
[21:40] <mwhudson> savvas0: come back
[21:41] <mwhudson> i think someone hamfisted tried to convert a cvs import into a svn import :(
[22:23] <hhbaieb> .
[22:29] <hhbaieb> Hello, I am Hbaib
[22:29] <hhbaieb> I am the owner of the : dprcd : it's a code that let you check all depandance of installed package and generate .deb file out of a debian package or get him from cache of apt
[22:29] <hhbaieb> When I tried to Update this branch: bzr push lp:~hhbaieb/+junk/dprcd
[22:29] <hhbaieb> I get this error : bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: please check connectivity and permissions (and try -Dhpss if further diagnosis is required)
[22:29] <hhbaieb> (a screenhot of the error message is here : http://pastebin.com/m4a50d860)
[22:30] <jml> hhbaieb: do you have your public SSH key registered with Launchpad?
[22:31] <hhbaieb> yes
[22:32] <hhbaieb> whatother informations do you need, please help
[22:32] <jml> hhbaieb: is your local username the same as your Launchpad username?
[22:32] <hhbaieb> yes
[22:32] <jml> hhbaieb: what happens when you run 'sftp bazaar.launchpad.net'
[22:34] <hhbaieb> Permission denied (publickey).
[22:34] <hhbaieb> Couldn't read packet: Connection reset by peer
[22:34] <jml> hmm.
[22:34]  * jml thinks
[22:35] <wgrant> Sounds like your key is wrong.
[22:36] <jml> yeah.
[22:38] <hhbaieb> I have created my ssh key 8 day ago
[22:38] <jml> hhbaieb: like wgrant says, the key you've got registered on Launchpad probably doesn't match your local key.
[22:39] <jml> hhbaieb: well, just to make sure, can you paste the output of "sftp -v bazaar.launchpad.net"?
[22:40] <hhbaieb> ok, i ll try it now
[22:41] <hhbaieb> http://pastebin.com/m61903cfb
[22:43] <jml> I got disconnected... did I miss anything?
[22:47] <hhbaieb> jml, this is my pastbi :http://pastebin.com/m61903cfb
[22:47] <jml> hhbaieb: thank you
[22:47]  * jml looks
[22:48] <jml> hhbaieb: yeah. the key on Launchpad definitely doesn't match the ones in your .ssh/ directory
[22:48] <jml> hhbaieb: there should be an id_rsa.pub or an id_dsa.pub file in there...
[22:49] <jml> (in the .ssh directory, I mean)
[22:50] <hhbaieb> I think you are right
[22:50] <jml> hhbaieb: add the contents of one of those files to https://launchpad.net/~hhbaieb/+editsshkeys
[22:50] <hhbaieb> ok
[22:51] <hhbaieb> and?
[22:51] <jml> hhbaieb: and then try pushing your branch again :)
[22:52] <hhbaieb> thinks, I will try now
[22:52] <hhbaieb> I will tell you after
[22:53]  * hhbaieb is working on it
[22:53] <jml> hhbaieb: cool.
[23:01] <hhbaieb> jml, thinks it works
[23:02] <hhbaieb> jml,a big thanks it works
[23:02] <hhbaieb> :)
[23:02] <jml> hhbaieb: excellent :)


[01:29] <brousch> Hah, no, I badgered her for years about their lack of Linux support
[01:29] <brousch> Very much MS shop
[01:29] <jrwren> i can't imagine there is any market for selling linux desktop software.
[01:30] <brousch> One of the games finally worked via wine, but I got bored after an hour and never played it again
[14:12] <cmaloney> Good morning
[16:33] <rick_h> morning (for a bit more)
[16:34] <cmaloney> heh
[20:58] <Scary_Guy> Stardock had some okay stuff, but the proprietary aspect was a turnoff eventually once I learned about the glory of FOSS
[20:58] <Scary_Guy> although if they ever got Nemoshell working that would be worth it
[22:13] <Scary_Guy> So, my media center blew up a while ago.  A friend sent me an Atom board and I hooked up my hard disk with Linux Mint on it.  I managed to get it to show the GRUB2 bootmenu but after that it just shows a dash blinking really fast.  Anybody have any ideas?
[22:13] <Scary_Guy> it's coming off a regular chipset so I'm not sure if it's freaking out about that, but from what I've read it should still understand the instruction set
[22:15] <Scary_Guy> it's an older system, it's possible it can't do 64 bit, only thing I can think of though
[22:16] <jrwren> best find out if it is 64bit or not.
[22:16] <jrwren> hwat model atom?
[22:19] <Scary_Guy> got a mobo manual with it, date is 2006, so yeah not 64 bit
[22:19] <Scary_Guy> it's a VIA CN700
[22:21] <jrwren> oh, not even real Atom.
[22:21] <Scary_Guy> apparently not
[22:22] <Scary_Guy> on the plus side there really isn't anything important on the OS, so I can just wipe it and reinstall with something it will understand
[22:23] <jrwren> openelec on a pi not good enough?
[22:23] <jrwren> err sorry, libreelec.
[22:24] <Scary_Guy> I've got a pi3b I tried it on, boy is that choppy
[22:24] <jrwren> really? What video are you trying to play?
[22:24] <jrwren> 4k or something?
[22:24] <Scary_Guy> I tried that, the other one, and Raspbian
[22:25] <Scary_Guy> just Netflix
[22:25] <jrwren> I use a pi2 and it plays all 1080p h264
[22:25] <jrwren> oh, i don't know anything about netflix.
[22:25] <Scary_Guy> I'm sure it would play other video fine, it's just that and Amazon which would probably work similarly bad are the big issues
[22:26] <Scary_Guy> they look like they run at about 8 FPS
[22:28] <Scary_Guy> I'll probably just end up making the pi a pihole or something neat, I have two of them. One I bought and the other a friend won at MUG and gave to me because I guess he didn't have time to mess with it


[05:15] <bkerensa> adam_g: sup
[05:15] <bkerensa> :
[05:15] <bkerensa> ;D
[06:04] <bkerensa> slangasek: are you running into issues updating 12.10 by chance?
[06:04] <bkerensa> I have been having an epic time for the last couple days
[06:04] <bkerensa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1094412/
[15:10] <slangasek> bkerensa: issues updating> no...
[15:11] <bkerensa> kk
[15:13] <bkerensa> slangasek: it would just appear my updates for the last week have required a newer version of python3 and dependencies none of which are uploaded yet
[15:14] <slangasek> you might want to post an exact error message?
[19:40] <travis_> Hello anybody home???
[19:40] <travis_> I have a question
[19:41] <travis_> They just installed a new firewall were I use the internet and have not allowed anything yet.
[19:41] <travis_> It's a serious headache
[19:42] <travis_> I am not familiar with proxy use and would love some one to help
[19:50] <tgm4883> travis_, so you need to authenticate with the firewall?
[19:50] <travis_> don't know
[19:51] <tgm4883> do you have any internet access?
[19:51] <travis_> Yes I am just getting blocked when I try to go to different they are going to be roll back a bit in the future but right now is a pain
[19:51] <travis_> *different
[19:52] <travis_> *sites
[19:52] <tgm4883> so only certain sites are blocked
[19:52] <travis_> Yup
[19:52] <tgm4883> sounds like they don't want you to go to those sites?
[19:52] <travis_> the firewall is geared for a work environment but it is my home computer
[19:53] <travis_> They will be making a exemption list but they are swamped right now
[19:53] <nathwill> travis_, do you have ssh to any box outside the LAN?
[19:53] <tgm4883> err, who installed a firewall?
[19:53] <travis_> Nathwill not sure
[19:54] <tgm4883> that would be no
[19:54]  * nathwill nods
[19:54] <nathwill> there goes my idea :P
[19:54] <travis_> tgm the it guys here my living situation is abnormal suffice it to say I have spoken with the main guy and he knows I am using proxy sites until they get it fixed
[19:55] <travis_> he has no problem with it but it is a laborious headache and I thought there may be an easier way
[19:55] <nathwill> travis_ without access to an external box, i think the proxy use is the best solution
[19:56] <tgm4883> yup
[19:56] <travis_> I am currently using a site called aniscartujo.com which is working has pretty small pop up
[19:56] <travis_> any ideas for a better one
[19:56] <travis_> ???
[19:57] <tgm4883> travis_, Not if you don't have SSH access to another server. I don't use those types of proxies
[19:58] <nathwill> i wonder if sdf.org (free shell accounts), might be an option...
[19:58] <nathwill> i've never used them, but...
[19:58]  * tgm4883 shrugs
[19:58] <tgm4883> I still think this sounds shady
[19:58]  * nathwill nods
[19:58] <travis_> Hmmm sounds promising being that I have no idea what it is.....Shady? ah never mind
[19:59] <tgm4883> heh
[19:59] <travis_> I know it will most likely only be a week or two before they get it worked out
[19:59] <tgm4883> the shady comment was more toward what you are trying to do in regards to the info you have given us
[19:59] <travis_> but the settings are crazy right now
[20:00] <tgm4883> http://askubuntu.com/questions/45075/how-do-i-route-my-internet-through-a-ssh-tunnel
[20:00] <orebuntu> tgm4883's tiny URL is http://tinyurl.com/6uey2by
[20:00] <travis_> That seems weird that you would cast aspersions on my character when I am just another team member looking for advice
[20:00] <tgm4883> travis_, team member or not, I don't know you
[20:00] <nathwill> ssh -D port user@host is the way to go, IMO
[20:02] <tgm4883> and it has nothing to do with your character and everything to do with you wanting to circumvent restrictions that have been put in place by whoever controls your network
[20:02] <nathwill> travis_, tgm speaks as an admin... viewed from that perspective, your asking how to bypass restrictions sounds "shady". i know your situation a bit more, so can understand how it would not actually be "shady"
[20:02] <tgm4883> I have no reason to distrust you, but by that same token, I have no reason to trust you
[20:03] <nathwill> wonder... is tor any good for bypassing lan restrictions like that?
[20:03]  * tgm4883 shrugs
[20:03] <travis_> It's not a big deal and I will just look for help else where
[20:03] <tgm4883> Probably
[20:04] <travis_> have a good day thanks for your help guys
[20:04] <nathwill> travis_ i'm kind of surprised proxy sites aren't blocked... sounds like a pretty ineffectual lockdown :( anyways, good luck
[20:05] <tgm4883> nathwill, +1
[20:05] <travis_> tgm4883 maybe I can introduce myself at the next event look forward to that
[20:05] <tgm4883> although blacklisting is ineffective
[20:05] <tgm4883> travis_, sounds good
[20:05] <travis_> Yeah it seems to just be a keyword list or something
[20:06] <travis_> like I said I have talked with the Admin and he is going to add the sites I want added just slow
[20:06] <travis_> He is aware I am running a work around until then
[20:08] <tgm4883> nathwill, is the ubunt-us-or server up?
[20:12] <nathwill> tgm4883, um. it's cloud.ubuntu-oregon.org
[20:12] <tgm4883> so no?
[20:13] <nathwill> apparently no
[20:13] <nathwill> ubuntu-oregon.org is up
[20:13] <tgm4883> heh ok
[20:13] <nathwill> but cloud. seems to be down
[20:13] <tgm4883> I don't really know what the use for that is, so didn't know if it was an SSH tunnel possibility
[20:13] <nathwill> well... we're working on that as a possibility when we get the new server racked
[20:14] <nathwill> but shell accounts are not currently available
[21:20] <bkerensa> nathwill: what up man
[22:49] <nathwill> hey bkerensa
[22:54] <MaskilPDX> Hello Ububtu-us-or
[22:54] <MaskilPDX> I attended OpenSourceBridge this year.  First timer
[22:55] <MaskilPDX> Beeen getting involved in more opensource
[23:06] <nathwill> welcome MaskilPDX :)
[23:07] <MaskilPDX> Thanks nathwill
[23:28] <bkerensa> MaskilPDX: Hi Welcome :D
[23:28] <bkerensa> nathwill: at OSCON.... we have 9 Proliant Microservers behind our booth atm
[23:28] <bkerensa> nathwill: sabdfl will be visiting the booth thursday
[23:32] <nathwill> bkerensa: why do we have so many proliants?
[23:32] <nathwill> also, cool :D
[23:32] <bkerensa> uhh because we have a cloud :D
[23:32] <bkerensa> and because the server team needed a place to put them
[23:32] <bkerensa> ;p
[23:32] <nathwill> bkerensa, f'real! dude. super-pumped
[23:32] <bkerensa> nathwill: jorge has a shirt for you btw
[23:33] <bkerensa> and cup[
[23:34] <nathwill> bkerensa, cool
[23:50] <bkerensa> hmm well I gotta run
[23:50] <bkerensa> :D
[23:50] <bkerensa> Ignite OSCON is tonight