[05:09] <thoreauputic> eugman: or what pppoe_dude said
[05:10] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Ackeubu_ about dvd
[05:10] <N9URK> I did apt-get update immediatly prior to the install
[05:10] <mister_roboto> babo: are you running X?
[05:10] <winbond> can anyone tell me how has the 64bit drivers changed from the 32bit?  or have they pretty much stayed the same, how was it designed to work on 64bit?
[05:10] <babo> mister_roboto: yes
[05:10] <mister_roboto> babo: there is no such thing as row and col size of your screen then
[05:11] <mister_roboto> babo: unless you mean the resolution in pixels?
[05:11] <capgadget> babo if you are not sure run kruler if you have kubuntu installed.
[05:11] <Madpilot> Anyone ever played Termulous on Ubuntu?
[05:11] <BioVorE> N9URK: well there is a database apt builds from that information.. it looks lke that could be messed up.. re turnning apt-get update will refresh the local database with that of the internet server..  apt-get upgrade dose the upgrades
[05:11] <gavagai> does anyone know of an ftp server that can actually limit its own bandwidth?
[05:11] <gavagai> i know proftpd claims to do this, but it works terribly
[05:11] <babo> it's ok, I got it ... stty -a
[05:11] <iratsu> pppoe_dude: same thing as before
[05:12] <iratsu> pppoe_dude: no DHCPOFFERS  received
[05:12] <mister_roboto> babo: that's the size of a terminal window on an xterm, not the size of your "screen"  :)
[05:12] <capgadget> stty -a is just your xterm dimensions
[05:12] <pppoe_dude> iratsu, :( i am thinking maybe network card is busted
[05:12] <babo> mister_roboto: ah, ok thanks :-)
[05:12] <N9URK> BioVorE: is there something I am missing?  I ran apt-get upgrade just before the install.
[05:12] <iratsu> pppoe_dude: yea, but we tried 2 of them
[05:12] <iratsu> pppoe_dude: i doubt they'd both be busted
[05:12] <pppoe_dude> iratsu, or other physical thing
[05:12] <bennyp> Hello! I just completed a Dapper installation on my iBook. I'm having trouble using the airport extreme card, though.
[05:12] <babo> mister_roboto: emacs is all messed up when I access my remote server using it ...
[05:13] <mister_roboto> babo: depends on the font you're using, of course
[05:13] <bennyp> I'm able to connect to the network, but the ip address I get (dhcp) is bad
[05:13] <babo> I get spurious text and all that ...
[05:13] <Ackeubu_> Madpilot I have libdvdcss installed already
[05:13] <babo> mister_roboto: default font.
[05:13] <ardy> thoreauputic, hmm.. its not clear the cache in terminal
[05:13] <ardy> help how to clear my history typing on terminal ?
[05:13] <pppoe_dude> iratsu, unless you have weird settings on your router
[05:13] <pppoe_dude> iratsu, u said it was working before right?
[05:13] <mister_roboto> babo: what is the remote server?   you might try using the "resize" command once you connect to it
[05:13] <iratsu> pppoe_dude: yep
[05:13] <Madpilot> Ackeubu_, OK, was worth checking (and I couldn't remember the name of the damn libdvdcss package, so I let the bot do the work..)
[05:13] <charlesJacobs> I think my make is broken.. when I try to make oldconfig or make xconfig I get the error message "make: *** No rule to make target `xconfig'.  Stop." of course for make oldconfig replace 'xconfig' with 'oldconfig' in that error. any ideas?
[05:13] <pppoe_dude> iratsu, did u change anything?
[05:13] <iratsu> pppoe_dude: we didn't change the router setting
[05:14] <iratsu> pppoe_dude: it just kind of suddenly happened
[05:14] <Ackeubu_> madpilot eyah thanks. it doesnt help me very much. >)
[05:14] <babo> mister_roboto: the remote server is centos ...
[05:14] <BioVorE> N9URK: apt-get upgrade just updates you local list of what packages are avalible on the remote servers listed in /etc/apt/sources.list   when apt-get update gose out and downloads stuff from the web, what is grabs is a pckages.gz file thats just a text file that list all the packages and assorted info..
[05:14] <winbond> is there a way to mount a harddrive with a extended ntfs partition , or whatever you call the partition that is made from a running windows on a new harddrive
[05:15] <charlesJacobs> winbond: yep. look in to ntfsprogs
[05:15] <amiel> has anyone installed ubuntu on an external harddrive
[05:15] <amiel> ?
[05:15] <pppoe_dude> !ntfs
[05:15] <ubotu> to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe. <!winfstab>
[05:15] <mister_roboto> babo: sorry... don't know what's going wrong but it's easy to try "resize" just to see if it helps. it exports a couple of env variables to tell the other side how big your xterm is
[05:15] <N9URK> BioVorE: OK I get it. I am sorry.  Too much stress here.  I didn't see you had typed update
[05:15] <BioVorE> N9URK: np
[05:15] <Kman> hey gyts
[05:15] <BioVorE> <- KB3GTN
[05:15] <winbond> charlesJacobs: ok , ty
[05:15] <bennyp> nevermind, my airport problem is solved! woohoo!
[05:15] <N9URK> BioVorE:  looking closely is important ;)
[05:16] <babo> mister_roboto: unfortunately centos doesn't seem to have a resize command ...
[05:16] <mister_roboto> babo: <shrug>   good luck!  :)
[05:16] <clusty> i am trying to resize a NTFS partition for the first time. parted is working already for 30 min to free up the 80 GB at the end. is this normal?
[05:16] <charlesJacobs> for some reason I can't make xconfig. I get the error message "make: *** No rule to make target `xconfig'.  Stop." any ideas?
[05:16] <hikikomori> hi
[05:16] <charlesJacobs> hi
[05:16] <hikikomori> i just installed jre
[05:16] <gavagai> trying to get basic traffic shaping is really getting frustrating.  :(
[05:17] <hikikomori> but i cant see aplications made in java,
[05:17] <N9URK> BioVorE: you do Echolink, IRLP, or EQSO?
[05:17] <hikikomori> do anybody know why?
[05:17] <hikikomori> this is why i get
[05:17] <hikikomori> http://pastebin.com/709863
[05:17] <regeya> frickin frack.
[05:17] <BioVorE> N9URK: not really.. I linkin via repeaters like wa3nan
[05:18] <Madpilot> hikikomori, after installing the JRE, run "sudo update-alternatives --config java" in the terminal
[05:18] <hikikomori> ok
[05:18] <hikikomori> y que pongo?
[05:18] <BioVorE> N9URK: there is a linux version of echolink though
[05:18] <BioVorE> N9URK: works kinda crappy like though..
[05:18] <regeya> tried installing a cvs emacs build via checkinstall.  forgot to rename the emacs folder and put a version number on the build folder.  'make install' apparently REMOVES Makefile.in, and when I try to do a 'make install' it insists I do a 'make bootstrap' first, and the first thing it does is a 'make clean'
[05:18] <N9URK> Yeah, I administer *NC* Echolink conference server.
[05:18] <Madpilot> hikikomori, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java - scroll down to the "Selecting the default Java version" for more details
[05:19] <BioVorE> N9URK: you can run the windows version on wine though.
[05:19] <regeya> OK AFTER YEARS OF LINUX USE I'M TRYING TO LIKE EMACS AND I KEEP FINDING MORE THINGS I HATE ABOUT IT.
[05:19] <N9URK> I have not used the Linux version though BioVorE
[05:19] <hikikomori> madpilot
[05:19] <hikikomori> which one should i choose?
[05:19] <Madpilot> regeya, mind the ALL CAPS, please...
[05:19] <regeya> sorry.
[05:19] <Madpilot> hikikomori, one should have 'sun' or 'jre' in the name
[05:19] <mister_roboto> regeya: stick to "vi" and you'll be happier ;)
[05:19] <regeya> heh
[05:19] <hikikomori> i got 3 options
[05:20] <N9URK> How can I kill apt-get? BioVorE  IT is in this never ending loop then after about 10 minutes it finally kills its self. but I cannot kill it
[05:20] <nickrud> regeya, there's no need to learn another operating system
[05:20] <Madpilot> regeya, besides, nano or gedit are for sane people. emacs ain't. ;)
[05:20] <BioVorE> N9URK: ctrl-c send a program a sigterm and if that dosn't work.. try ctrl-z sigkill (or drop dead)
[05:20] <regeya> mister_roboto, I'm beginning to dig the do-anything-and-multi-platform aspect of emacs.  plus viper-mode makes it tolerable. ;-)
[05:21] <Madpilot> hikikomori, look for "/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java" - or something else that's similar
[05:21] <BioVorE> N9URK: If that dosn't work as root run kill -9 PID   (you find the pid looking at ps ax)
[05:21] <hikikomori> it worked
[05:21] <mister_roboto> regeya: well to each his own. options are good :)   for editing, i forced myself to learn vi because it's ALWAYS there, no matter what unix box i go to
[05:21] <hikikomori> many thanx manipilot
[05:21] <N9URK> BioVorE:   ctl-c doesn't work   ctl-z suspends it.  then when I do kill -9 -1 it will kill it but when I run apt-get again it tells me to do dpkg --configure -a
[05:21] <hikikomori> thanx
[05:21] <hikikomori> :)
[05:21] <calisee> can anyone help me set the resolution in xorg.conf for my external monitor hooked up to my laptop?
[05:21] <Madpilot> hikikomori, np
[05:21] <BioVorE> hikikomori:
[05:21] <charlesJacobs> for some reason I can't make menuconfig. I get the error message "make: *** No rule to make target `menuconfig'.  Stop." any ideas?
[05:21] <regeya> to be more blunt, I was building emacs from source for a.) gtk+ compatibility and b.) planner-mode refused to work on the ubuntu build for mysterious reasons
[05:22] <BioVorE> N9URK: Might be something with filelocking..  Hard to tell from here
[05:22] <N9URK> got it
[05:22] <N9URK> BioVorE: kill-9 PID did it
[05:22] <BioVorE> N9URK: ah ok..
[05:22] <regeya> mister_roboto, I forced myself to bash my head against a wall because while a book or TV may not always be available I can almost always count on walls
[05:22] <winbond> ok , so i connected my ntfs harddrive, and i can see a drive icon for it but when i go to mount it sais hd1 doesnt exist but in terminal it shows it as hd: not hd1:
[05:23] <regeya> plus, viper-mode == vi mode basically ;-)
[05:23] <hikikomori> :P
[05:23] <calisee> can anyone help me set the resolution in xorg.conf for my external monitor hooked up to my laptop?
[05:23] <N9URK> BioVorE: it is telling me now dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg~blah~' to correct the problem
[05:23] <regeya> whelp just thought I'd share my pain...hasta all
[05:23] <regeya> (go ahead make the 'bot abuse me for the one non-english word in that sentence)
[05:23] <BioVorE> N9URK: yeah.. dirty lock file and stuff
[05:23] <mister_roboto> regeya: lol.  the beauty of vi is that your fingers get to stay on the home row so it's very fast to use for a  touch typist. but i understand why a lot of folks hate it. i did too at first.
[05:24] <BioVorE> N9URK: what speed computer?
[05:24] <regeya> mister_roboto, you may have missed the bit about me forcing myself to like emacs these days...what do you think I've been using since 1997? :-P
[05:24] <N9URK> 1.8 G
[05:24] <N9URK> BioVorE 1.8G
[05:24] <regeya> tip:  vi commands DO NOT work in QuarkXPress, if you ever plan to work in print
[05:24] <mister_roboto> regeya:  hah... point taken
[05:25] <BioVorE> N9URK: yeah.. that shouldn't be cranking alot on apt things
[05:25] <regeya> I do that a lot...just start using vi commands in random apps.
[05:25] <DonL> Hi
[05:25] <mister_roboto> regeya: i even do it in eclipse!
[05:25] <N9URK> see it is going in an endless loop to this stupid error message
[05:25] <regeya> it's embarrassing when you're trying to figure out why everything you type in a textbox starts with 'i'
[05:25] <gavagai> what ftp server is recommended besides proftpd?
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> gavagai,  i think the use of ssh to replace the ftp server would be recommended. :)
[05:25] <N9URK> BioVorE and it goes and goes and goes and then after about 10 minutes of looping it then ends.  But  I cannot get it to kill myself
[05:26] <gavagai> Dr_Willis, yes but that is not what i need for this purpose
[05:26] <BioVorE> N9URK: apt-get is a perl script I believe (might be pythong)  IT just parses a text file to get information to download a file then run dpkg -i
[05:26] <gavagai> the users are idiots they are not going to be using ssh
[05:26] <DonL> I screwed up by installing RealPlayer from a binary, and it doesn't work, and I can't remember the commands to totally dump it. Anybody remember how?
[05:26] <calisee> can anyone help me set the resolution in xorg.conf for my external monitor hooked up to my laptop?
[05:26] <gavagai> the ftp user has no valid shell, etc.
[05:26] <mister_roboto> gavagai: using sftp (ssh) is just like using ftp
[05:26] <gavagai> mister_roboto, it works in IE?
[05:26] <BioVorE> N9URK: I think is got an issue tring to parse the packages file it got of the server for some reason.
[05:26] <wrath> Anyone know how to get to perls command prompt?
[05:27] <mister_roboto> gavagai: ahhh... i don't know. i see your problem :)
[05:27] <Sivik> mister_roboto, its a program totally seperate from IE
[05:27] <BioVorE> wrath: you mean cpan shell?
[05:27] <gavagai> :)
[05:27] <Sivik> mister_roboto, and what are you doing using IE anyways?
[05:27] <mister_roboto> Sivik: i didn't see that he was trying to use it
[05:27] <mister_roboto> Sivik: i  mean trying to use IE
[05:27] <detra> hello ... I got Dapper 6.06 installed ... Im trying to get my soundcard to work ... Its a USB soundcard ... But every single time I try to play something it says that there is a prob with the driver ... That it might be in use ...  Im trying to learn to progam in perl but I need the prompt that runs it
[05:28] <N9URK> it has something to do with stats.py BioVorE
[05:28] <BioVorE> N9URK: I am not really sure what you got it doing atm..
[05:28] <mister_roboto> wrath: oddly enough, typing "perl" puts you in the interpreter
[05:29] <n30n> I don't think i have wine installed right. Is there some way i can check to see if the dirs are in place correctly?
[05:29] <N9URK> It keeps looping back to this "SyntaxError: EOF while scanning triple-quoted string"
[05:29] <wrath> In the terminal?
[05:29] <BioVorE> wrath: perl is an interpiters.. just start a text file and start it with #!/usr/bin/perl followed by you perl program..
[05:29] <charlesJacobs> for some reason I can't make xconfig. I get the error message "make: *** No rule to make target `xconfig'.  Stop." any ideas?
[05:30] <jighead> charlesJacobs, where are you runing make xconfig?
[05:30] <Sivik> mister_roboto, that wasn't supposed to be aimed at gavagai, not you
[05:30] <BioVorE> wrath: I don't think there is any interactive shell for it.  perl -MCPAN -e shell allows you to install new modules from cpan if needed but isn't a shell
[05:30] <n30n> !wine
[05:30] <ubotu> Wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on linux.  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wine for more info.
[05:30] <gavagai> i have wondershaper running and even though from the client's perspective it limits the bandwidth, i'm still getting spikes every 5 seconds that completely use all my bandwidth, totally killing the network
[05:30] <N9URK> I guess noone knows what to do
[05:30] <N9URK> BioVorE
[05:30] <charlesJacobs> jighead: in /usr/src. I'm compiling a new kernel
[05:30] <wrath> Ok thanks, I will try to install that then.
[05:30] <BioVorE> N9URK: I would have to research it.. I don't know apt down the lowest level
[05:30] <charlesJacobs> jighead: it doesn't work with oldconfig or menuconfig either
[05:31] <Hobbsee> EmFactor: did you see why you were removed?
[05:31] <mister_roboto> wrath: yes in the terminal, but then you have to "<ctl>d" to end the input and execute it
[05:31] <Kuyaedz> how can I allow access to cups web interface (localhost:631) to addresses OTHER than localhost?
[05:31] <jighead> charlesJacobs, you need to by in /usr/src/kernel-source<version> and then run the command
[05:31] <wrath> Ok thanks very much thats all I need to know.
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> Kuyaedz,  edit the cups configs in /etc/
[05:31] <N9URK> BioVorE thanks for your help though anyway
[05:31] <mister_roboto> wrath: it's easier to put it in a file and run the file
[05:31] <N9URK> BioVorE at least you tried
[05:31] <jighead> charlesJacobs, do you have the kernel source installed there?
[05:31] <John___> hello everyone trying to install ubuntu on my imac power pc and it freezes everytime
[05:31] <BioVorE> but the stat.py is a python script
[05:31] <Kuyaedz> Dr_Willis: I've been editing it & adding Allow my.ip but it isn't letting me into the /admin subfolder
[05:32] <gbutler69> OK....anyone can puzzle this? I "ripped" a Shoutcast stream using "streamripper" to save the content of the MP3 stream from "www.folkalley.com" to a file....I can then play that MP3 file fine in RB; however, when I try to play the "Stream" directly using RB, RB locks up.... :( This has worked flawlessly for the last couple of months on Dapper. Why messing up now?
[05:32] <Fracture> I am having troubles starting gdm, I havn't changed anything, and have just rebooted.
[05:32] <BioVorE> N9URK: you can try asking in the #debian room too.. same engine
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> Kuyaedz,  you did enable the full use of the  web interface to cups?
[05:32] <Kuyaedz> Dr_Willis: Not sure.  where would I do that?
[05:32] <charlesJacobs> jighead: oh. that works. heh. >:)
[05:32] <N9URK> BioVorE: good idea
[05:32] <Fracture> gdm reports that my nvidia card doesn't have enough power, and if this is incorrect to specify NoPowerConnectorCheck in xorg.conf (which I have done, and doesn't work)
[05:32] <gavagai> ok i guess ftp is not popular in here... ;)
[05:32] <BioVorE> N9URK: I am kinda intressed to see what happend and maybe is if there is a bug in apt
[05:33] <N9URK> BioVorE: I am going there now if you want to follow me
[05:33] <mister_roboto> wrath: like this   echo 'print "hello world\n"' >>myfile && perl myfile
[05:33] <mister_roboto> wrath: i mean, not EXACTLY like that, but edit the file with your code, then run it
[05:33] <wrath> how is it executed though in this way?
[05:33] <calisee> can anyone help me set the resolution in xorg.conf for my external monitor hooked up to my laptop?
[05:34] <mister_roboto> wrath: the "perl myfile" tells the perl interpreter to load "myfile" and try to run it as a perl script
[05:35] <wrath> ok do I need to name the file with an extension?
[05:35] <mister_roboto> wrath: no
[05:35] <wrath> ok thats easy :-)
[05:35] <wrath> thanks again, bye all
[05:35] <mister_roboto> wrath: it's kind of a standard to put ".pl" on the end so you can tell by the name but the interpreter doesn't care
[05:35] <wrath> Ok, ill do that then
[05:38] <N9URK> sorry to all if I just flooded some stuff in this room
[05:38] <N9URK> it was a mistake
[05:38] <calisee> I have an external monitor hooked up to my laptop and the resolution needs to be different (same display but that is fine), can anyone point me in the right direction of fixing this?
[05:38] <Hobbsee> N9URK: it auto-kicked you
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> N9URK,  heh - i dident see anything. :P
[05:38] <BioVorE> N9URK: rgr.. take a look at /var/lib/dpkg
[05:38] <crogue5> something up with the repositories?
[05:38] <xer0> anybody know why when i upgraded from breezy to dapper my Samba broke? this is a real pain and i need it working.
[05:38] <xer0> i have tried reinstalling it but nothing shows
[05:38] <xer0> my smb.conf file has not changed @ all
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> xer0,  clarify whats broke.
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> xer0,  also enable verbose logging - may help find the problem.
[05:39] <scud> is wnpp suppose to be network-manager-vpnc?
[05:39] <xer0> well if i go to Places-> Network Servers and then to Windows Network nothing shows. it gives me an error saying smb:\\\ is MIA.  none of my M$ Windows computers can see anythign either
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> xer0,  could try a different samba browser tool. like smb4k, ive often found the gnome smb:\\ stuff to be.. welll fickle.
[05:40] <whiteboy747> when i try to install ubuntu on my imac g5 ppc it gets to the boot screen but then the screen flashes white and the screen goes blank -- any help?
[05:40] <N9URK> Hobbsee - when does it auto-kick someone?  I was trying to cut and paste some lines out of the window and it kicked me
[05:41] <Hobbsee> N9URK: well, we saw nothing from you - just your quit message had (excess flood) in it
[05:41] <detra> whiteboy747, I had the same prob with my iBook g4 ... Are you trying to install graphical ??
[05:41] <whiteboy747> yes
[05:42] <detra> whiteboy747, Mine didn't work either when I did that ... Then I dl text mode ... And it worked ... And then afterwards I installed desktop ...
[05:42] <whiteboy747> ok so that would be the alternate install disk?
[05:43] <detra> whiteboy747, how ya mean ?
[05:43] <xer0> dr_willis: just installed that and it shows nothing
[05:43] <N9URK> How can I get apt-get to not compile a certain package?
[05:43] <nathanael> I have a problem... I think enjoy installing Linux distros more than I like using them...
[05:43] <BioVorE> N9URK: it shouldn't be doing that
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> xer0,  id drop back to manually editing the samba config file and enabling more verbose logging and checking the log messages.
[05:43] <xer0> how do i do that?
[05:43] <N9URK> BioVorE: I wish I could take a screenshot for you
[05:43] <xer0> i mean how do i enable logging?
[05:44] <whiteboy747> detra here are three disks the desktop cd, the server cd, and the alternate cd
[05:44] <crogue5> anyone having a problem getting repository index lists when opening synaptic
[05:44] <BioVorE> N9URK: the only stat.py I have my system here is part of the python2.4 package
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> xer0,  it may be worth while to read a bit of that using samba book. It has oooodles of detals. the smb.conf should have some comments as to the right parts to alter.
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> !samba
[05:44] <ubotu> samba is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[05:44] <whiteboy747> here/there*
[05:44] <nathanael> Applications>>Accessories>Take Screenshot
[05:44] <detra> whiteboy747, oh yeah sorry ... alternate ...
[05:44] <p47> do you know why not compiz works with compiz ?
[05:44] <BioVorE> N9URK: might have a Disk error problem and messed up the stat.py file (its a text file)
[05:44] <whiteboy747> ok thanks i'll try that
[05:45] <crogue5> anyone having a problem getting repository index lists when opening synaptic or update manager?
[05:45] <oni-dracula> Dr_Willis, cedega help again
[05:45] <BioVorE> N9URK: /usr/lib/python2.4/stat.py
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> oni-dracula,  eh? :p
[05:45] <N9URK> BioVorE is that a conf file?
[05:45] <oni-dracula> error message, Dr_Willis :  The Cedega version (5.2) you are defaulting to is missing the following file : config
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> oni-dracula,  heh - i dont think i helped much last time.
[05:45] <oni-dracula> oh now I actually have a subcription (ponied up $15...)
[05:45] <telache> Hello everyone.  I just upgradeed to Dapper, and now firefox won't open.  Can anyone give me a hand?
[05:45] <BioVorE> N9URK: its a python module..  that I think apt is tring to use.. but those errors your seening look like there from the python interpiter barfing on that file.
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> oni-dracula,  its missing the file 'config' ?
[05:46] <teckfatt> dose anyone know how to limit the upload speed for SSH?
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> oni-dracula,  so do i. but i rarely use it.. but im not sure how to cancle it. :)
[05:46] <oni-dracula> Dr_Willis, one would think that the file 'config' would be included in the damn deb
[05:46] <N9URK> that file does not exist BioVorE
[05:46] <BioVorE> N9URK: well.. theres your problem :-P
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> oni-dracula,  you ran the point2play tool and updated cedega?
[05:46] <oni-dracula> Dr_Willis, cedega won't run at all
[05:47] <N9URK> well, so how do I fix that, since apt-get screwed up?
[05:47] <BioVorE> N9URK: do a dpkg -l | grep python
[05:47] <calisee> I have an external monitor hooked up to my laptop and the resolution needs to be different (same display but that is fine), can anyone point me in the right direction of fixing this?
[05:47] <BioVorE> dose it show python2.4 installed?
[05:47] <xer0> dr_willis: i think im gonna say the binary can go screw itself and install it by source like i had to do last time in breezy
[05:47] <N9URK> is that india or lima?
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> oni-dracula,  odd...  i used the deb from their site just the other day
[05:47] <BioVorE> N9URK: lima
[05:47] <billgates1337``> Can someone help me get my WG311v3 up and running?
[05:47] <K|NgGh0sT> Anyone have any good links for nub trying to use LVM?
[05:47] <Hobbsee> !tell billgates1337`` about wireless
[05:47] <N9URK> BioVorE: hokey smokes - there is a lot of stuff
[05:48] <crogue5> anyone having a problem getting repository index lists when opening synaptic or update manager?
[05:48] <billgates1337``> hobbsee, trust me, i have tryed all the commong stuff
[05:48] <nathanael> nope
[05:48] <BioVorE> N9URK: rgr.. that why there is a | grep python.. should just spit out pythong stuff
[05:48] <billgates1337``> hobbsee, i can't get it to work even with all the guides
[05:48] <Hobbsee> billgates1337``: which chipset?
[05:48] <dou213_> how can i tell what is the location of the directory of C header files that match my running kernel?
[05:48] <billgates1337``> hobbsee: mendell
[05:48] <telache> blast gnome-terminal just crashed on launch....
[05:48] <aphotic> hello, I'm having an error with ubuntu's auto-configuring that has me concerned
[05:49] <telache> this dapper upgrade has some bugs
[05:49] <BioVorE> N9URK: you have a /usr/lib/python2.4 directory?
[05:49] <oni-dracula> Dr_Willis, I am currently removing all instances of transgaming cedega....removed from synaptic, removed all directories
[05:49] <aphotic> ere's the message that I get whenever i install software via synaptic: E: clvm: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 3
[05:49] <aphotic> E: redhat-cluster-suite: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[05:49] <aphotic> E: system-config-cluster: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[05:49] <nathanael> "We're sorry; the installer crashed, please file a bug report..." -?
[05:49] <nathanael> 2nd time
[05:49] <KanRiNiN> Hey guys.  I'm curious:  am I able to download source packages from apt-get and rebuild those for my system architecture?  Like optimize games and media packages instead of 386?
[05:49] <Hobbsee> billgates1337``: mendell?  havent heard of that before...
[05:49] <KanRiNiN> If so can you point me in the right direction with some websites?
[05:49] <Hobbsee> billgates1337``: want to pastebin lscpi?
[05:50] <FarrisG> nyone using gotmail? I keep getting curl errors with the newest version
[05:50] <Hobbsee> KanRiNiN: packages.ubuntu.com
[05:50] <dou213_> some1 pls: how can i tell what is the location of the directory of C header files that match my running kernel?
[05:50] <KanRiNiN> thanks Hobbsee
[05:50] <BioVorE> KanRiNiN: ubuntu is targeted for 486 I think
[05:50] <winbond> anyone here running software raid0?
[05:50] <BioVorE> KanRiNiN: apt-get source will pull the source code used for a particular app.. but you have to figure out all the development headers and libs your self
[05:51] <billgates1337``> hobbsee, http://pastebin.com/709968
[05:51] <Cntryboy> Hey all, is there a program for dialup users for ubuntu that is a caller id so i can see who's calling?
[05:51] <K|NgGh0sT> Anyone have any good links for nub trying to use LVM?
[05:51] <KanRiNiN> Hobbsee: if I run the 686 kernel but compile with pentium-m flags will it be a problem?
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> oni-dracula,  the use may have some .transgaming dirs as well.
[05:51] <billgates1337``> hobbsee, sorry, it was a marvell, not a mendell
[05:51] <ardy> help how to clear my history typing on terminal ?
[05:51] <Hobbsee> billgates1337``: that's what i suspected.  PM?
[05:51] <oni-dracula> oni@oni-desktop:~/Desktop$ sudo dpkg --remove cedega-small
[05:51] <oni-dracula> (Reading database ... 84900 files and directories currently installed.)
[05:51] <oni-dracula> Removing cedega-small ...
[05:51] <Hobbsee> KanRiNiN: no idea
[05:52] <billgates1337``> hobsee, hold on, i need to regisher
[05:52] <oni-dracula> it is telling me cedega-small has installed 84,000 files? wtf
[05:52] <Cntryboy> anyone?
[05:52] <BioVorE> KanRiNiN: yes.. kernel dosn't like optimzation out side of what you put into the .config file.  also linux kernel dosn't do anything fancy like mmx or floating point.
[05:53] <N9URK> BioVorE: I am looking
[05:53] <Cntryboy> lol mm
[05:53] <BioVorE> KanRiNiN: the kernel knows what mmx is .. but the kernel dose use anything more then a 386 base instructions.
[05:53] <Geoffrey2> oni-dracula, no, I believe it's telling you that's how many files and directories in total that are installed on your computer
[05:53] <oni-dracula> ok...
[05:54] <babo> this is weird, when I cut and paste my user crontab command into my user command line. It works fine. But the crontab itself doesn't seem to work at all. And doesn't give me any mail errors ... ?
[05:54] <digitalfox> hey, I have an ATI Radeon 9200 mobility (one of the chipsets affected by the upstream fglrx bug,) and I can't seem to get the open source driver working for 3D, despite the fact the chipset in question (r200) is supported for 3D by that driver.
[05:54] <N9URK> BioVorE: Yes it is there
[05:55] <BioVorE> N9URK: is there a file called stat.py in that directory?
[05:55] <chakra85> hey, i was wondering if anyone knew a website that describes the different folder on the root of my drive: (lib, var, bin, ... etc.) just a general overview of what everything is.
[05:55] <BioVorE> N9URK:
[05:55] <digitalfox> anyone here with the same/similar card that would be able to shed light on the issue?
[05:55] <BioVorE> N9URK: (/usr/lib/python2.4)
[05:55] <frank_> !ldp
[05:55] <ubotu> frank_: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:55] <Cntryboy> So, know one here can help me?
[05:55] <chakra85> (as in, why do i need an opt folder_
[05:55] <Cntryboy> oop grr NO
[05:55] <Cntryboy> -know
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> chakra85,  yea - ive seen a few sites that tell that info.. but i just cant rember them. I think the LSB site 'may' have some info.
[05:56] <nnod> i've got dapper running and i compiled my own kernel (<IP_ADDRESS>). now the features of gnome-volume-manager (e.g. automount) don't work. hald appears to be working because when i plug something in it shoots off a process called hal-addon-storage. anyone know what is wrong?
[05:56] <K|NgGh0sT> Can someone help me set up an LVM?
[05:57] <Madpilot> nnod, why not go back to a stock kernel?
[05:57] <N9URK> BioVorE: yes there is
[05:57] <chakra85> Dr_Willis: what is the LSB site?
[05:57] <babo> Does cron user run as user or as root ?
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> chakra85,  not sure . google for linux lsb
[05:57] <BioVorE> N9URK: what dose md5sum stat.py give you back
[05:57] <N9URK> hopefully I will type this right
[05:57] <chakra85> Dr_Willis: does it stand for linux standard base?
[05:57] <digitalfox> no one here on a radeon 9200?
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> chakra85,  yea - somthing like that
[05:58] <chakra85> Dr_Willis, thanks i'll try that...
[05:58] <N9URK> fc966d9cd5f8de0eb020344b30c3156d BioVorE
[05:58] <Healot> sup ubuntuans
[05:58] <nekostar> eh
[05:58] <nnod> Madeye, I was getting kernel panics, the new kernel seems to have fixed that
[05:58] <Xgates> say I run Gentoo and XP on my box and on my second hdd I added in Ubuntu, then from the grub menu I copied that info into grub on Gentoo, but I can't get Ubuntu to boot for some reason
[05:58] <BioVorE> N9URK: well that file looks correct.. I have the same md5sum here as well
[05:58] <Xgates> Here is what I put in grub ----> http://pastebin.com/709979
[05:58] <nekostar> anyone familiar with enlightened gnome ?
[05:59] <nekostar> or enlightenment itself ?
[05:59] <christine_> no
[05:59] <aphotic> hmmm anyone here know anything about synaptic package manager errors?
[05:59] <N9URK> I am now seeing "Sorry Indentation error" BioVorE
[05:59] <nekostar> ive got a lot of apps in debian > apps > net and system
[05:59] <Healot> Xgates: sure you map the Grub disk properly?
[05:59] <nekostar> and the menu wrapps too fast and i cant select anything :/
[05:59] <johnZay> my computer keeps saying I have a read-only file system
[05:59] <nekostar> was hoping osmeone knew how to make the menu smaller :/
[05:59] <BioVorE> N9URK: yeah.. its having issues with parsing a text file somewhere..
[05:59] <aphotic> yeah, prolly ntfs
[06:00] <Xgates> Healot: hefre is cfdisk ---->  sdb4     Primary              Linux ext3
[06:00] <Cntryboy> Hey all, is there a program for dialup users for ubuntu that is a caller id so i can see who's calling?
[06:00] <Xgates> Healot: that is my / path, so then in grub that is root (hd1,3)
[06:00] <BioVorE> N9URK: I think the file it parses is /var/lib/dpkg/avaliable   its a text file that list all the packages on the mirrors.  Its a big text file
[06:00] <johnZay> then when I reboot it goes back to writable...
[06:00] <Healot> Xgates: on which partition did you install Grub?
[06:00] <N9URK> what does """ mean in py?
[06:00] <Xgates> Healot: in grub I put after that root (hd1,3) ---> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-23-386 root=/dev/sdb4 ro quiet splash
[06:00] <N9URK> is that a comment of some kind?
[06:00] <Healot> well, the chain loader grub
[06:01] <BioVorE> N9URK: the parser is probably seending an open string.  "I am a string"     I am a broken string"
[06:01] <Xgates> Healot: grub is on ---> root (hd0,5)
[06:01] <BioVorE> N9URK: need a even number of " or else stuff gets confused
[06:01] <Healot> Xgates: try to use /boot/vmlinuz instead, if you only install one kernel package for ubuntu
[06:02] <N9URK> BioVorE : on the first line of stats.py it has <quote>"""Constants/functions~</quote>
[06:02] <Healot> Xgates: hd1,0 is mapped to /dev/sdb? correct?
[06:02] <Xgates> Healot: I just installed Ubuntu so /boot/vmlinuz will work?
[06:03] <N9URK> BioVorE line 2 is blank. line 3 <quote>suggested usage: from stat import *</quote>
[06:03] <Healot> well... Xgates: maybe, that's the default symlink for the default kernel
[06:03] <N9URK> BioVorE line 4 <quote>"""</quote>
[06:03] <Xgates> Healot: ahh I don't have a map for sdb in grub
[06:03] <BioVorE> N9URK: """ in python I think is a quote
[06:03] <Healot> ok
[06:03] <Healot> map the disk then
[06:03] <oni-dracula> it seems dapper drake + cedega = KABOOOOOM!!!
[06:03] <Sivik> how do you find a codec for new wmv3?
[06:04] <detra> How can I install flashplayer ??
[06:04] <Sivik> oni-dracula, does cedega not work in dapper
[06:04] <Xgates> how you do this for grub, I've always used Grub in the past with just one hdd, so this is a first for me with two hdds now
[06:04] <Sivik> !flash
[06:04] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:04] <Sivik> !tell detra about flash
[06:04] <oni-dracula> Sivik, it seems that no matter what I do, it ain't gonna work
[06:04] <chakra85> Dr_Willis: if you're still here: i found myself at the wikipedia LSB site and linked to this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard) page. (just in case someone asked in the future)
[06:04] <Sivik> oni-dracula, what does it do?
[06:04] <Hobbsee> !tell billgates1337`` about ndiswrapper
[06:05] <Sivik> Hobbsee, what drivers is he trying to run?
[06:05] <N9URK> BioVorE removing those lines didn't help
[06:05] <h3h_timo> will an intel core-duo processor at 1.66 Ghz run faster than an intel centrino at 2.0 Ghz????
[06:05] <Hobbsee> Sivik: the same ones as i do
[06:05] <Xgates> Healot: how you do this for grub, I've always used Grub in the past with just one hdd, so this is a first for me with two hdds now
[06:05] <Hobbsee> Sivik: marvell ones
[06:05] <N9URK> BioVorE: I sure wish I knew how to stop apt-get's processing
[06:05] <oni-dracula> Sivik, it does nothing...it at one point ran the GUI, but would not run any games...now it won't even run at all
[06:05] <Sivik> oni-dracula, that sucks, i haven't tried cedega in dapper yet
[06:05] <distanceisdeath> is there a TST extractor available?
[06:05] <Healot> Xgates: /boot/grub/*map* >>> some file named *map*
[06:05] <Sivik> Hobbsee, ok
[06:06] <Sivik> how do i get the new wmv3 codecs
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> oni-dracula,  odd - ive had very few if any problems with it
[06:06] <johnZay> !codecs
[06:06] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories. Also refer to !restricted
[06:06] <oni-dracula> Dr_Willis, I'm about to either boot my windows drive or format and reinstall with ubuntu 5.10
[06:06] <Xgates> Healot: device.map says this in it:
[06:06] <alexmiller> hellp
[06:06] <alexmiller> *help
[06:06] <Xgates> (fd0)   /dev/fd0
[06:06] <Xgates> (hd0)   /dev/sda
[06:06] <Xgates> (hd1)   /dev/sdb
[06:06] <BioVorE> N9URK: sudo killall -9 apt-get  (you might also look in ps ax for dpkg, python and see if its running as well)  Time for bed here.. I'll be on tomarrow night
[06:07] <h3h_timo> will an intel core-duo processor at 1.66 Ghz run faster than an intel centrino at 2.0 Ghz???
[06:07] <Healot> Xgates: it seemd /dev/sdb is already mapped to hd1
[06:07] <Sivik> johnZay: those don't support the new wmv3 yet
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> oni-dracula,  i just did a simple dpkg -i cedega whatever.. :P  i did use the 'full' not the light one.
[06:07] <BioVorE> h3h_timo: depends what your running on it
[06:07] <Sivik> johnZay, i have already installed all of those codecs and still can't get it to work
[06:07] <alexmiller> i cant get to a FAT32 directory if it has spaces. i am trying to access it through terminal
[06:07] <oni-dracula> Dr_Willis, 5.1 or 5.2?
[06:07] <Sivik> h3h_timo, probably, but amd is better
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> cd 'this  dir has spaces'
[06:07] <dugg> hello guys. I just installed ubuntu dapper and it looks like i have 3/4 of my screensavers missing.. i.e no preview.. any idea?
[06:08] <alexmiller> thanks
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> oni-dracula,  its whatever was out 2 weeks ago when i downloaded it
[06:08] <h3h_timo> Sivik, ive read better things about the intel centrino dual core for laptops
[06:08] <Xgates> Healot: yes it's in there, so why can't I get Ubuntu to boot, BUT I have XP Vista on sdb too, and that Partion is marked as Bootable, and I have XP Pro on sda and its marked bootable too
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> Bash FUNdamentals
[06:08] <h3h_timo> Sivik, its better for power saving and stuff liek that
[06:08] <oni-dracula> Dr_Willis, considering that 5.2 doesn't have a "full" package... I'd say you had 5.1
[06:08] <Sivik> h3h_timo, i don't believe that, thats what the new turion dual core are for
[06:09] <h3h_timo> Sivik, also.. just so you know.. i wanted to get an amd.. but i read lots of reviews.. and i found a great laptop.. if you wana check it out ill give you a link
[06:09] <N9URK> BioVorE: thanks for all the help good night om
[06:09] <drcode> hi all
[06:09] <alexmiller> thanks so much Dr_Willis
[06:09] <aedwards232> visual route finds physical location information by using the whois database (correct me if I'm wrong), I need a perl module or something else to take an ip address and return a general physical location using whois or some other database, any ideas?
[06:09] <drcode> can I boot from floppy and run ubuntu iso file?
[06:09] <Sivik> h3h_timo, sure, let me see it
[06:09] <drcode> without burning on cd?
[06:09] <h3h_timo> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16834115246
[06:09] <Cornellius> !zsnes
[06:09] <ubotu> Cornellius: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> oni-dracula,  running the updater to get to 5.2 now., :P
[06:09] <dugg> hello guys. I just installed ubuntu dapper and it looks like i have 3/4 of my screensavers missing.. i.e no preview.. any idea? anyone? please
[06:09] <Sivik> yeah, but its going to suck, cause ati doesn't work well in linux
[06:09] <h3h_timo> seems like a pretty good deal.. and im gettin a 3 yr warranty with it..
[06:10] <Hobbsee> dugg: rss-glx ones?
[06:10] <h3h_timo> Sivik, did you get the link?
[06:10] <drcode> I Mast burn it on cd ?
[06:10] <Sivik> h3h_timo, yes
[06:10] <QMario> Cornellius, there is a package for ZSNES.
[06:10] <drcode> or is there other way?
[06:10] <Sivik> h3h_timo, but its a ati video card, and its hard to get ati to work correctly with linux
[06:10] <Cornellius> QMario:  I know, just wanted to see what Ubotu had to say about it.
[06:10] <Sivik> h3h_timo, especially the x cards
[06:10] <alexmiller> how do I remove a directory in terminal
[06:11] <Sivik> rm -r
[06:11] <alexmiller> thanks
[06:11] <telache> Hello everyone.  I just upgradeed to Dapper, and now firefox won't open.  Can anyone give me a hand?
[06:11] <h3h_timo> yeah well.. im just gonna use that for school.. and im planning on getting another system later for linux
[06:11] <Xgates> Healot: this is my grub.conf on gentoo to boot Ubuntu ---> http://pastebin.com/709998
[06:11] <Sivik> h3h_timo, i'm sorry
[06:11] <h3h_timo> Sivik, but do you think it woudl be a good laptop otherwise?
[06:11] <alexmiller> thanks Sivik
[06:11] <varsendaggr> hey all i have in wine  is circle's for fonts
[06:11] <Sivik> h3h_timo, acer has good amd boards as well
[06:11] <varsendaggr> how do i fix that
[06:12] <dugg> Hobbsee: yea i guess. i am not sure. total beginner here. but i guess it's all those cool ones..
[06:12] <Cornellius> TiMidity's nice, but it also likes the CPU :(
[06:12] <drcode> can I boot from floppy and call to iso file to start install ubuntu?
[06:12] <Sivik> Xgates: you need to have the initrd for the dapper as well
[06:12] <Hobbsee> dugg: install xscreensaver-gl
[06:12] <h3h_timo> Sivik, lol i already bought that one.. its being shipped as we speak.. im planning on getting another when i go into my junior year of college
[06:12] <Sivik> h3h_timo, i'm sorry
[06:12] <AngryElf> how do i change my windows manager from kdm back to gdm?
[06:12] <h3h_timo> Sivik, all i wanna know.. is if i got an alright deal
[06:13] <Cornellius> On the login screen
[06:13] <h3h_timo> for the hardware i got
[06:13] <Cornellius> In options
[06:13] <Sivik> h3h_timo, ok
[06:13] <Xgates> Sivik: ahh ok, can you show me yours because I can't boot Ubuntu to copy it
[06:13] <Sivik> Xgates, yet
[06:13] <Sivik> Xgates, yes
[06:13] <drcode> quit
[06:13] <Sivik> Xgates, let me paste it to the pastebin and give it to you
[06:13] <winbond> AngryElf: cheel out , keep the kde
[06:13] <Cornellius> AngryElf:  Where you choose the user
[06:13] <Xgates> Sivik: ok thanks
[06:13] <Cornellius> AngryElf:  Go into options there and change session will let you change WM
[06:14] <Sivik> Xgates, http://pastebin.com/710003
[06:14] <AngryElf> ...
[06:14] <Xgates> k
[06:14] <Sivik> Xgates, its a simple line added to the menu.lst file
[06:14] <AngryElf> did either of you read my question?....i dont want to switch from KDE to gnome, i want to switch from kdm to gdm....last i checked they were different things
[06:14] <Sivik> Xgates, you know how to edit files via vi or gedit correct
[06:15] <dugg> Hobbsee: according to synaptic it is already installed. i tried reinstalling it but still not working
[06:15] <Cornellius> AngryElf:  Ah, misread it sorry.
[06:15] <Sivik> dugg: uninstall it first
[06:15] <Sivik> dugg: sudo apt-get remove "application"
[06:15] <QMario> How do I lock my screen?
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> AngryElf,  dpkg-reconfigure gdm (i THINK) can do that
[06:15] <Sivik> Xgates, does that make sense?
[06:15] <h3h_timo> Sivik, did you check it?
[06:16] <Sivik> h3h_timo, yes, i wouldn't buy it
[06:16] <Xgates> Sivik: I'm no newbie, hehe, BUT I'm booting Ubuntu off grub in Gentoo, so what is the full path for that, what you showed me doesn't look complete  :/
[06:16] <AngryElf> I'm really trying to troubleshoot the fact that when I log out of KDE I get a black screen and nothing works - crtl+alt+f1 included
[06:16] <h3h_timo> Sivik, but, thats because you would want linux on it correct?
[06:16] <nickrud> QMario, System->Quit, choose lock screen
[06:16] <Sivik> yes, and also has to do wtih the fack that i hate intel as well as ati
[06:16] <oni-dracula> Dr_Willis, what would you reccomend for doing a clean install of cedega now that i've completely screwed everything up?
[06:16] <Xgates> Sivik: isn't that suppose to be --->  initrid  /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-23-386
[06:17] <QMario> Nickrud, thank you and hello. ;)
[06:17] <nickrud> QMario, hi back at ya
[06:17] <Sivik> Xgates, just make it look like mine, for ubuntu
[06:17] <QMario> Nickrud, I haven't heard from you in a while.
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> oni-dracula,  im not even sure how ya managed to mess it up. :P A+ job for that eh.
[06:17] <oni-dracula> indeed
[06:17] <Cornellius> !gdm
[06:17] <ubotu> Cornellius: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:17] <nickrud> QMario, I've been here, just different times I'd guess
[06:17] <Sivik> Xgates: well, the /boot isn't needed, cause all my boot information is on its own partition
[06:17] <Cornellius> !KDM
[06:17] <ubotu> Cornellius: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:17] <oni-dracula> you want to vlc into my box and fix it for me? :)
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> oni-dracula,    its always been a simple.. download the deb, sudo dpkg -i cedega.deb, then run point2play as the user.
[06:18] <Sivik> Dr_Willis, is that for the cedega?
[06:18] <oni-dracula> Dr_Willis, dapper made things not so simple
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> Sivik,  thats all ive done.
[06:18] <Sivik> ok
[06:18] <Sivik> i'm going to try it
[06:18] <Sivik> with TA
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> oni-dracula,  what did it make not so simple? i installed it that way on my 3 dapper machines.
[06:18] <Xgates> Sivik: well I'm not using a seperate boot partioon I only made swap and / for ubuntu so wouldn't it look like this then ?> ---> http://pastebin.com/710008
[06:19] <dugg> Sivik: removed. reinstalled. still not working.
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> oni-dracula,  there is the xlibs annoyance. but that fixable.
[06:19] <oni-dracula> Dr_Willis, so how exactly do I remove cedega cleanly
[06:19] <Sivik> Xgates: remove the /boot part
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> oni-dracula,  perhaps use the purge option to apt-get remove ?
[06:19] <Hobbsee> dugg: using gnome or kde?
[06:19] <dugg> Hobbsee: gnome
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> oni-dracula,  i can honestly say - ive never removed it. I rarely remove anythiong
[06:19] <Hobbsee> dugg: no idea then
[06:19] <Xgates> Sivik: ok so, ---> initrd /initrd.img-2.6.15-23-386
[06:20] <dugg> Hobbsee: ..=(. thanks anyway
[06:20] <Sivik> Xgates: try that
[06:20] <babo> this is weird, when I cut and paste my user crontab command into my user command line. It works fine. But the crontab itself doesn't seem to work at all. And doesn't give me any mail errors ... ?
[06:20] <Xgates> Sivik: ok so this should be fine for Ubuntu then yea? ----> http://pastebin.com/710014
[06:20] <babo>  cd /usr/local/bin/etk-scripts/job/ && ./post_script arg  works fine from the user command line .... but doesn't work at all from users cron ?
[06:21] <Sivik> Xgates: yes
[06:21] <Xgates> Sivik: ok thanks brb
[06:21] <Xgates> ;p
[06:21] <dugg> Sivik: any other ideas?
[06:21] <Matic`Makovec> Hey guys. Is it possible to do something like...well to chooe which sound output should program take..e.g xmss takes soundsystem output and skype takes headphones output...how would i set that up, if i can set that up this way? Any ideas?
[06:21] <Sivik> dugg: what program are you trying to run?
[06:22] <Sivik> dugg: cedega?
[06:22] <Sivik> dugg: remind me
[06:22] <dugg> Sivik: what do you mean? i have problems with screensavers
[06:22] <Sivik> dugg: native screensavers or screensavers added
[06:22] <green__saotome> can't get my amarok to work on dapper
[06:23] <green__saotome> things i find on google and ubuntuforums say i need libxine-extracodecs, but i can't seem to find that on the repository (yes, i modified the sources.list file)
[06:23] <Hhhhh> question: is there a script that runs at startup (after a reboot or poweron)? I need to add some modprobe commands to it
[06:23] <Hhhhh> this is xubuntu draper
[06:23] <dugg> Sivik: native i think. they all came with the basic install. i havent added anything.
[06:23] <Sivik> dugg: so what are you trying to do with them
[06:24] <Sivik> dugg: and are you using gnome or kde
[06:24] <nickrud> green__saotome, if apt-cache policy shows an installation candidate for amarok, your sources are good; if it does not, there's still something wrong
[06:24] <nickrud> green__saotome, complete command is apt-cache policy amarok ;)
[06:24] <green__saotome> Hhhh, go to /etc/initd, and throw the script you want to run there
[06:24] <green__saotome> then soft link it to /etc/rc2.d, or which ever run level you are using to boot up or shut down
[06:25] <dugg> Sivik: gnome. i am trying to use them. lol. what else. =p. but almost none of them work.. antinspect/antspotlight.. all..
[06:25] <Sivik> dugg: do you have the correct drivers installed for your video card?
[06:25] <nickrud> green__saotome, erm, apt-cache policy libxine-extracodecs, I gotta get these guys out of my office
[06:25] <Cornellius> dugg:  You have installed the drivers of your videocard correctly ?
[06:26] <Sivik> Cornellius, thats what i just asked him
[06:26] <oni-dracula> The Cedega version (5.2) you are defaulting to is missing the following file : config
[06:26] <oni-dracula> Traceback (most recent call last):
[06:26] <oni-dracula>   File "/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega/Point2Play_gui.py", line 2616, in ?
[06:26] <oni-dracula>     Point2Play_gui_ref = Point2Play_gui( Point2Play.Point2Play( config_file, alternate_configs ) )
[06:26] <oni-dracula>   File "/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega/Point2Play.py", line 493, in __init__
[06:26] <oni-dracula>     self.match_and_copy_default_cedega_profiles()
[06:26] <cruisermaverick> hallo all
[06:26] <Healot> Xgates: you need the initrd entry for an ubuntu kernel, i think
[06:26] <oni-dracula>   File "/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega/Point2Play.py", line 1758, in match_and_copy_default_cedega_profiles
[06:26] <oni-dracula>     log.logger.info("self.current_default_cedega_profile now == " + self.current_default_cedega_profile)
[06:26] <oni-dracula> TypeError: cannot concatenate 'str' and 'NoneType' objects
[06:26] <Sivik> Healot: hes already gone
[06:26] <Sivik> Healot: i told him that already
[06:26] <green__saotome> nickrud, i install it fine
[06:26] <Cornellius> Sivik:  I was typing it and wasn't looking at the screen at that time :P
[06:26] <Healot> by default Ubuntu stock kernel need an initrd entry
[06:26] <dugg> Sivik and Cornellius: how do i go about checking it? i ticked install official nvidia drivers @ easyubuntu
[06:27] <Sivik> dugg: glxgears -printfps
[06:27] <Sivik> and tell me what the fps says
[06:27] <TheMystic> since upgrading to dapper my mouse occasionally stops responding to clicks... on two separate and very different machines (a laptop and a desktop).
[06:27] <green__saotome> nickrud, it's an engine issue. Xine by default does NOT play mp3's and i can't seem to get amarok to use the arts or gstreamer engines
[06:27] <TheMystic> any thoughts?
[06:27] <Cornellius> dugg:  When you boot, do you see the Nvidia logo ?
[06:27] <dugg> Sivik: unknown parameters.
[06:27] <dugg> Cornellius: no
[06:27] <green__saotome> Cornellius, that depends on wether his bios is configured to display that or not
[06:28] <Sivik> dugg: does glxgears even work?
[06:28] <green__saotome> that generally doesn't mean anything
[06:28] <Sivik> run glxgears --help
[06:28] <Sivik> green__saotome, i see a big difference between when i have it installed correct and when it isn't
[06:28] <Sivik> green__saotome, so it helped me
[06:28] <nickrud> green__saotome, libxine-extracodecs is the package that supports mp3's
[06:28] <Healot> green__saotome: installed "libxine-extracodecs" yet (universe repos)
[06:28] <Healot> dapper's universe repos
[06:29] <nickrud> multiversse, green__saotome multiverse
[06:29] <Healot> anyone gracious enough to paste their /boot/grub/menu.lst file?
[06:29] <green__saotome> healot, i uncommented the universe, out of the sources.list, made a apt-get update, but i still don't see the libxine-extracodecs in apt-cache
[06:29] <dugg> Sivik: unknown parameter still. i can see glxgears at the screensavers options though.
[06:29] <Lorri> Is there some way to disable shift+backspace
[06:29] <Lorri> to turn off x
[06:29] <Sivik> dugg: run glxgears from terminal
[06:29] <Lorri> It's kind of annoying D:
[06:29] <DShepher1> Lorri: XGL?
[06:29] <Lorri> Yeah
[06:29] <DShepher1> Lorri: ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[06:29] <Lorri> Isn't shift+backspace normal X
[06:30] <DShepher1> Lorri: not to my limited knowledge
[06:30] <Lorri> oh
[06:30] <Healot> Xgates: referring to your previous q, you need the initrd entry after the kernel entry for "ubuntu" kernel
[06:30] <dugg> Sivik: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:30] <dugg> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[06:30] <Sivik> dugg: then your drivers aren't installed correctly
[06:30] <Sivik> Xgates: did it work?
[06:30] <nickrud> Healot, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15748
[06:31] <Sivik> Healot: i had already taken care of him
[06:31] <nickrud> green__saotome, have you enabled the multiverse repo yet
[06:31] <Healot> oh great
[06:31] <green__saotome> healot, http://pastebin.com/710036
[06:31] <green__saotome> nickrud, yeah
[06:31] <Sivik> Xgates: did it work?
[06:31] <dugg> Sivik: can you please give me some ideas on how to install it then? where do i start?
[06:31] <Sivik> are you in ubuntu
[06:31] <green__saotome> nickrud, i decomment every repo
[06:32] <Healot> thanks for the menu.lst guys
[06:32] <nickrud> green__saotome, you must add the word multiverse to each line that has universe in it
[06:32] <green__saotome> Healot, i sent you one
[06:32] <Snowfairy_> is there a window id for the virtual desktops in x?
[06:32] <green__saotome> what's with the sarcasm?
[06:32] <billgates1337``> you there?
[06:32] <keleus> Can anyone reccomend an IDE (or some kind of development system other than the shell) for a beginner to learn C++ in?
[06:32] <Snowfairy_> xwininfo seems to return the same for all four virtual desktops.
[06:32] <Healot> sarcasm?
[06:32] <green__saotome> nickrud, a bit confused, can you give me an example
[06:32] <green__saotome> healot, my bad, misinterpreted you
[06:32] <Sivik> Xgates: did that work?
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> keleus,  a good tutorial or 4 and the shell are the best. :P
[06:33] <keleus> Dial_tone, time to buy a tanker :)
[06:33] <nickrud> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse <-- green__saotome
[06:33] <keleus> Dr_Willis, can you suggest a tutorial?
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> keleus,   a decent text editor is handy however.
[06:33] <keleus> or even a book?
[06:33] <Healot> keleus: KDevelop seems simple enough, Eclipse maybe?
[06:33] <Sivik> dugg: i can't remember the name of the program right not, but its like xserver-reconfigure
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> keleus,  id do some googling for some beginner tutorials.
[06:33] <keleus> Healot, too heavy... im using XFCE for performance reasons
[06:33] <charlesJacobs> when compiling a kernel what are the disadvantages of compiling a feature as a module rather than directly in the kernel?
[06:33] <Sivik> Xgates: are you in?
[06:34] <green__saotome> nickrud, ok, let me give it a try
[06:34] <Healot> for book, i recommend...  AH
[06:34] <dugg> Sivik: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia is that okay?
[06:34] <Healot> O'Reilly press for C++, keleus?
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> ya dont want a C++ book with lots of pictures.
[06:35] <Sivik> dugg: yeah, that works
[06:35] <keleus> can you buy textbooks at a college bookstore without being a student there?
[06:35] <Healot> or you prefer Microsoft Visual C++...
[06:35] <Healot> keleus: yes, mostly
[06:35] <Madpilot> keleus, sure, they'll take money from anyone
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> keleus,  of course.. or check out the many used book stores out.
[06:35] <green__saotome> bruce eckel's thinking in c++ is pretty good
[06:35] <keleus> i think i'll hit the local campus' book stores
[06:35] <TheMystic> since upgrading to dapper my mouse occasionally stops responding to clicks... on two separate and very different machines (a laptop and a desktop). alt-tabbing jogs it back into working. anyone else seen this?
[06:36] <keleus> or, maybe i should take a single class while im waiting to become a resident...
[06:36] <Sivik> keleus, anyone can buy stuff at a college library
[06:36] <mada> anyone with any cedega experience?
[06:36] <keleus> yea, a little
[06:36] <Sivik> mada: what is the problem?
[06:36] <green__saotome> nickrud, i got the package, installing it now
[06:36] <green__saotome> nickrud, thanks, let's hope this works
[06:36] <Sivik> green__saotome, what are you installing?
[06:37] <keleus> mada, and may i ask what you are trying to use under it?
[06:37] <charlesJacobs> when compiling a kernel what are the disadvantages of compiling a feature as a module rather than directly in the kernel?
[06:37] <green__saotome> sivik, libxine-extracodecs
[06:37] <mada> Sivik: installed, everything works ... but my screensaver stopped working
[06:37] <keleus> nickrud, heh, got D2 running under vanilla WINE
[06:37] <nickrud> green__saotome, you should be fine now
[06:37] <Sivik> green__saotome, does that support the wmv3 files?
[06:37] <TheMystic> charlesJacobs: if you compile as a module, you can unload/reload it at runtime
[06:37] <Sivik> mada: can't help you, haven't gotten into it that much
[06:37] <green__saotome> so, anyone has installed xgl successfully on dapper?
[06:37] <Healot> kernel modules vs. modules stuff, charlesJacobs?
[06:37] <mada> keleus: not a problem with it, it runs and all the games i needed it to, but my screensaver stopped working after i installed it
[06:37] <hegemon> what do i need to rip a dvd?
[06:37] <Sivik> hegemon, a program to rip dvds
[06:37] <green__saotome> sivik, not sure, all of my music is basically on mp3
[06:38] <TheMystic> charlesJacobs: and also you don't have to load it if you don't need it
[06:38] <keleus> mada, cant say i have any clue what might be doing that
[06:38] <Sivik> green__saotome, but i'm talking about videos from online
[06:38] <hegemon> Sivik, which one?
[06:38] <green__saotome> sivik, i don't look much farther than that
[06:38] <charlesJacobs> TheMystic: so there's no disadvantage to compiling some thing as a module?
[06:38] <Sivik> green__saotome, just asking
[06:38] <green__saotome> sivik, really don't know
[06:38] <Sivik> green__saotome, thats cool
[06:38] <green__saotome> sivik, haven't gotten the browser integration for streaming video (other than flash)
[06:38] <Sivik> green__saotome, i was just wondering if you know
[06:38] <TheMystic> charlesJacobs: none that i know of, so long as you set it up appropriately
[06:38] <green__saotome> sivik, and vlc will open practically everything once downloaded
[06:38] <charlesJacobs> TheMystic: oh cool. thanks
[06:38] <Sivik> green__saotome, i'm not talking about streaming video, just talking about the wmv3 files that i downloaded
[06:39] <Sivik> green__saotome, vlc won't open this one
[06:39] <green__saotome> sivik, really?!
[06:39] <green__saotome> sivik, that's a first
[06:39] <TheMystic> charlesJacobs: you just need to make sure you don't compile things needed at boot into modules
[06:39] <TheMystic> charlesJacobs: but even there, you can get around some of those by using an initrd
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> ive seen many a wmv that linux players cant play.
[06:39] <nickrud> charlesJacobs, if you are rolling your own, look up initramfs or compile your root filesystem & the motherboard stuff into the kernel, not as a module
[06:39] <TheMystic> charlesJacobs: i once compiled ext2 support as a module, then wondered why my system wouldn't boot :)
[06:40] <keleus> I wonder how long it will be before we see WINE 1.0
[06:40] <anildigital> hi ppl in #ruby channel I am not seeing otheres messages why?
[06:40] <nickrud> never
[06:40] <charlesJacobs> TheMystic: haha. that makes sense. thanks for the information
[06:40] <anildigital> please guide me so I can switch to #ruby channel
[06:40] <Sivik> green__saotome, http://pastebin.com/710043
[06:40] <TheMystic> heh, speaking of wine, this looks interesting: http://alkyproject.com/
[06:40] <mada> keleus: is there any command line thing i could do to restart the xsreensaver daemon? i don't know the command
[06:41] <nicholaspaul> Is there a recommended distro for BeigeG3 ?
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> screensaver obsession night? :P
[06:41] <green__saotome> sivik, i believed you, just didn't know this was a problem, is this a new format?
[06:41] <Sivik> green__saotome, hell if i know
[06:41] <Madpilot> nicholaspaul, the PPC version of Ubuntu should work on a G3
[06:41] <TheMystic> nicholaspaul: you have to do some more intricate things to boot linux on a beige g3
[06:41] <Sivik> green__saotome, i'm just trying to view this video thats a trailer for a game i might want to play, but it seems to not work
[06:41] <keleus> mada, im not sure, but you could try to find it with your system manager, look at the command line it ran with, kill the process and execute the command line that was listed. Run it as the user the process was running as
[06:42] <Healot> i need a recommendation
[06:42] <TheMystic> nicholaspaul: because its firmware isn't the NewWorld openfirmware
[06:42] <nicholaspaul> Madpilot: yea i tried ppc. version
[06:42] <keleus> mada, system MONITOR, not manager :)
[06:42] <anildigital> how to see others messages in #ruby channle?
[06:42] <TheMystic> nicholaspaul: but dapper ppc should work
[06:42] <nicholaspaul> TheMystic: oh i see. What kind of things? where can i find a list, like a howto?
[06:42] <Sivik> green__saotome, i was just showing you the problem
[06:42] <green__saotome> sivik, have you asked the all knowing hermit (google)?
[06:42] <nicholaspaul> TheMystic: yea, tried Dapper
[06:42] <samuel> sup all
[06:42] <TheMystic> nicholaspaul: lemme look up debian's instructions...
[06:42] <Sivik> green__saotome, yes
[06:42] <anildigital> I think I am banned to see msgs from others in #ruby channel, please help
[06:42] <nickrud> Madpilot, nicholaspaul the p3 is not available for ubuntu easily
[06:42] <billgates1337``> can someone help me with "network manager"? it won't let me connect with my wireless card!
[06:42] <keleus> Hmm, should i learn C or C++? i have a very small amount of C++ experience, TI Basic, and the Unreal Tournament scripting language. (enough to make 4 small mods)
[06:42] <mada> keleus: rgr... sorry, not used to ubuntu yet, i been a debian user for years and just switched my desktop and laptop over (but not my server) and i am used to doing everything with deb config tools
[06:43] <Sivik> green__saotome, everything is forums and all they say is that they downloaded the dll from some website, but never give a url
[06:43] <Healot> i want to stream media with VLC, for the sake of security and caching, should i stream with caching proxy?
[06:43] <samuel> whats the name of that program that installs extra stuff in ubuntu (flash, java, win32codecs, etc...)
[06:43] <samuel> ?
[06:43] <Madpilot> anildigital, this is #ubuntu, why are you asking here?
[06:43] <Sivik> billgates1337``, what kind of video card?
[06:43] <keleus> mada, no problem
[06:43] <Sivik> billgates1337``, i mean wireless car
[06:43] <anildigital> how to set +v
[06:43] <billgates1337``> wg311v3
[06:43] <nicholaspaul> nickrud: the p3?
[06:43] <Sivik> billgates1337``, card*
[06:43] <Healot> keleus: #c #c++ heh
[06:43] <Sivik> billgates1337``, brand?
[06:43] <Cornellius> anildigital:  You're not banned, there's just no one talking.
[06:43] <anildigital> please guide me
[06:43] <Madpilot> samuel, EasyUbuntu?
[06:43] <billgates1337``> netgear
[06:43] <nickrud> nicholaspaul, erm, g3 :)
[06:43] <Sivik> billgates1337``, did you google it
[06:43] <nicholaspaul> oh nickrud lol
[06:43] <Sivik> green__saotome, not sure what else to try
[06:43] <keleus> Sivik, i have a netgear WG511T and it works fine natively on Dapper... madwifi has it well supported (atheros chipset)
[06:43] <billgates1337``> yes, about 200 times, now
[06:43] <samuel> Madpilot, thanks
[06:43] <keleus> Healot, nooooo...... :)
[06:44] <Sivik> keleus, ok
[06:44] <armedking> Is it possible to defrag fat disk under Linux?
[06:44] <billgates1337``> sivik, PM?
[06:44] <Sivik> keleus, tell billgates1337``
[06:44] <anildigital> Cornellius, thanks
[06:44] <TheMystic> nicholaspaul: http://www.us.debian.org/releases/stable/powerpc/ch04s05.html.en#files-oldworld
[06:44] <Sivik> billgates1337``, talk to keleus
[06:44] <billgates1337``> kk
[06:44] <keleus> billgates1337``, get a netgear 108MBPS cardbus card
[06:44] <Hobbsee> keleus: or dont get a netgear at all - their drivers are dodgy.
[06:44] <keleus> billgates1337``, make sure it has the atheros icon on thebox. when you open it, it SHOULD say WG511T
[06:44] <TheMystic> nicholaspaul: that should get you started. if you can find the kernel and initrd on the ubuntu cd, and copy them to the hard drive, you should be able to boot using BootX.
[06:44] <keleus> Hobbsee, not using their drivers, im using the atheros driver through madwifi.
[06:44] <Sivik> Hobbsee, the broadcom are worse
[06:45] <disinterested_pe> i cant get this webcam to work
[06:45] <nicholaspaul> thanks TheMystic I'll do some reading
[06:45] <billgates1337``> keleus, pm...
[06:45] <Hobbsee> keleus: the card is working, it's just not behaving with networkmanager.
[06:45] <nicholaspaul> TheMystic: I've got some homework to do! Thx for the pointers.
[06:45] <gavagai> Networking question.  Right now I have a DSL with a 2wire wireless router.  now, suppose i wanted to use an old linux system as my router.  can i do this with just an extra linux box and this router?  i need the linux box completely on the "outside" of my lan, as a chokepoint.
[06:45] <dugg> Sivik: hello. it's me again. i followed the instructions on the site. rebooted and stuck on the nvidia splash screen
[06:46] <Sivik> dugg, then there is some sort of issue
[06:46] <Sivik> what kind of card is it?
[06:46] <gavagai> the motivation for this is that i run a few servers and traffic shaping is required i think.
[06:46] <gavagai> and this cheapo router doesn't do traffic shaping
[06:46] <dugg> Sivik: geforce fx5200
[06:46] <Sivik> !nvidia
[06:46] <ubotu> well, nvidia is Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:46] <VR_> how can i disable task switching with the scrollwheel?
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> VR_,  you mean when you are over the taskbar?
[06:47] <VR_> Dr_Willis: yep
[06:47] <Sivik> dugg: google to see if there are any issues with that driver and the 5200 card
[06:48] <charlesJacobs> if I compile a kernel with the K8 processor family selected will it compile as 64- or 32-bit?
[06:48] <nickrud> 5200 works great with both nv & nvidia
[06:48] <bobstro> keleus: have you used kismet with that card?
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> VR_,  move the mouse away from the taskbar? :)  personally i love the featrue. i discovered it by mistake. heh
[06:48] <TheMystic> anyone using dapper on a dell latitude d610
[06:48] <TheMystic> ?
[06:48] <VR_> Dr_Willis: i have a sensitive wheel, so it gets annoying :\
[06:48] <bobstro> TheMystic: D600
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> VR_,  id say right click on the task manager and see what properties it has
[06:49] <keleus> well, my WG511T has no version number printed on it :/
[06:49] <TheMystic> bobstro: can you successfully resume after suspend?
[06:49] <VR_> Dr_Willis: already tried that
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> VR_,  when in doubt read the gnome docs/user manuals. :P
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> or google
[06:50] <bobstro> TheMystic: i have, but no luck getting suspend-to-disk/hibernate to work. still fighting with it though, including not able to get ndiswrappers working anymore.
[06:50] <bobstro> keleus: i'm looking for a good kismet card
[06:50] <TheMystic> bobstro: hmm, resume fails entirely for me since i upgraded to dapper
[06:50] <TheMystic> i get a blank screen
[06:50] <nickrud> I knew about scrolling in the windowspace switcher, the taskbar too? nice
[06:51] <FluFlo> TheMystic, same for me. Its a IDE problem
[06:51] <keleus> bobstro, well, ive got one of the Atheros chipped netgear WG511T and it works in monitor mode fine
[06:51] <bobstro> TheMystic: ah, i should mention i haven't played much since the upgrade and realized the wireless was dead. i probably have that problem too.
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> nickrud,  i noticed the kde irc client has it in its tabs also.
[06:51] <Lorri> Cedega won't start my Warcraft 3 installation
[06:51] <keleus> bobstro, but its a gamble, some of them dont have the atheros chipset (the box should have an atheros label)
[06:51] <nickrud> Dr_Willis, it's a very nice concept, I'm gonna look for it in more places
[06:52] <bobstro> keleus: ok, thanks for tip. i'll look for that logo on the box.
[06:52] <keleus> bobstro, the full name of the card (what you see first on the box) is 108MBPS
[06:52] <winbond> does the ati fglrx driver work with the 64bit ubuntu?
[06:52] <TheMystic> FluFlo: ahh, it seemed like it might be, since it couldn't spin the hd back up
[06:52] <johnZay> is it safe to apt-get sendmail?
[06:52] <nickrud> johnZay, except that it's a hoary piece of software, yes
[06:52] <keleus> bobstro, http://www.netgear.com/products/details/WG511T.php
[06:52] <FluFlo> TheMystic, in my case I have an Acer Aspire. The IDE controller is tricky and won't wake up afther suspension
[06:52] <TheMystic> FluFlo: i think i traced it to the kernel v2.6.15... if i boot in the old (breezy) 2.6.12 kernel, it seems to work
[06:52] <johnZay> lol
[06:53] <nickrud> johnZay, unless you need sendmail, look at postfix & exim4, they're much easier
[06:53] <keleus> bobstro, and lspci says this about it:
[06:53] <Hhhhh> green__saotome, I out my script in /etc/init.d/, then soft linked it in /etc/rc2.d/ and then in /etc/rc5.d/, but it still doesn't work
[06:53] <keleus> bobstro, 0000:02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)
[06:53] <winbond> does the ati fglrx driver work with the 64bit ubuntu?
[06:53] <johnZay> k thhanks.. I'll give them a try
[06:54] <bobstro> keleus: that sounds perfect! so 802.11a too? that'd be a bonus.
[06:54] <TheMystic> FluFlo: what ide chipset is in your box?
[06:54] <keleus> bobstro, the chipset is there, but the rest of the card isnt :/ doesnt actually work with A
[06:54] <FluFlo> VIA something, let me check it out
[06:54] <bobstro> keleus: ah, bummer.
[06:55] <nickrud> Hhhhh, did you link it in /etc/rc2.d/ as Snn<scriptname> ?
[06:55] <FluFlo> TheMystic, 000:00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
[06:55] <Hhhhh> not as Snn<scriptname>
[06:55] <TheMystic> FluFlo: hmm, k. mine's an intel sata controller.
[06:55] <keleus> bobstro, at least I assume :) no 802.11a around to test :)
[06:56] <Hhhhh> nickrud, I did soft link it in /etc/rc2.d/ though
[06:56] <FluFlo> TheMystic, in my case, it fails simply because it is crappy
[06:56] <nickrud> Hhhhh, remove the links you made, and use sudo update-rc.d <scriptname> defaults 99 , that will set up the links correctly for you
[06:56] <TheMystic> hehe. in my case it seems to be a regression since 2.6.12
[06:57] <AngryElf> what's the difference between aptitude and apt-get?
[06:57] <nickrud> aptitude tracks dependencies during installation, so that unused dependencies are automatically removed
[06:57] <keleus> AngryElf, aptitude is a frontend to apt-get and apt-cache etc.
[06:58] <nickrud> keleus, no, aptitude & apt-get/apt-cache both are frontends to apt
[06:58] <johnZay> is psotfix the best way to send mail with php?
[06:58] <Amaranth> nickrud: it only works if you install it with aptitude
[06:58] <Healot> define "the best"
[06:58] <nickrud> Amaranth, true, that's why I only use apt-get here for advice
[06:59] <nickrud> Amaranth, nothing like having aptitude try to remove something you just installed with apt-get ;)
[06:59] <Amaranth> heh
[06:59] <AngryElf> hmm, ok and non sequitur -- where can I customize gnome themes?  the theme dialog has no option fo it
[06:59] <Amaranth> i believe mvo has a bzr branch for apt that does the same thing as aptitude
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> AngryElf,  check the 'theme details' button i think.
[07:00] <Lorri> which process does wine run under
[07:00] <Lorri> like the name
[07:01] <Lorri> I have a blank Wine configuration window just hanging around
[07:01] <winbond> anyone running software raid0 //?
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> Lorri,  try  'ps az | grep wine'
[07:01] <nickrud> Lorri, try alt-f2 xkill <enter> , and clicking the dead window
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> Lorri,  or  'ps ax | grep wine'
[07:01] <Lorri> okay thanks
[07:02] <Lorri> hmm
[07:02] <Lorri> I can click through the window
[07:02] <Lorri> and the ps ax doesn't work
[07:02] <nickrud> Amaranth, do you think it'll ever make it into mainline?
[07:02] <AngryElf> doesn't really let you config - let's you pick and choose different subsets of themes - but no specific modifications
[07:02] <Amaranth> dunno
[07:02] <Lorri> I remember that wine ran under some other name
[07:03] <keleus> er, no?
[07:03] <keleus> always wine
[07:03] <keleus> or wine-server
[07:03] <Lorri> oh that's it
[07:03] <Lorri> thanks
[07:03] <keleus> you could try "pgrep wine"
[07:03] <Lorri> hmm
[07:03] <Lorri> still not
[07:03] <keleus> ctrl-alt-backspace :)
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> reboot
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:03] <keleus> i hope he was expecting that...
[07:04] <nickrud> ouch, never say ctl-alt-backspace without mentioning logout first ;)
[07:05] <Snowfairy_> Can you reference virtual desktops by window id or some such?
[07:05] <Lorri> >_>;
[07:05] <Snowfairy_> I'm trying to use imagemagick's import to take a screenshot of a virtual desktop I'm not currently looking at.
[07:05] <keleus> Lorri, i was hoping you would give me time to explain what that did...
[07:05] <pd273> /server irc.partecs.net
[07:05] <keleus> but in any case, ddi it help?
[07:05] <pd273> oops
[07:06] <Lorri> I know what it did
[07:06] <Lorri> Worked anyway
[07:06] <keleus> 01:05:14 <Lorri> >_>;
[07:06] <Lorri> was going to do it
[07:06] <Lorri> myself
[07:06] <Lorri> Is there anything like cleartype for ubuntu
[07:06] <Lorri> >_>;;;;;;;;
[07:06] <AngryElf> okay - now that I have this box setup with a theme I like - what folder can I copy to other gnome boxes and have it use the same theme?
[07:06] <keleus> whats cleartype?
[07:07] <Lorri> and yes, the 'I know what it did' was a lie
[07:07] <keleus> font anti-aliasing?
[07:07] <Lorri> like anti-aliasing
[07:07] <Lorri> yeah
[07:07] <FluFlo> keleus, for windows. yeah
[07:07] <keleus> it should be up by default. but yea, its around...
[07:07] <FluFlo> nothing new
[07:07] <keleus> pain in the but to configure by hand
[07:07] <Lorri> meh looks fine anyway
[07:07] <Snowfairy_> Is there a way to reference virtual desktops by window id or display or anything like that?
[07:08] <Lorri> For some reason I can't install Warcraft 3 through Cedega
[07:08] <Lorri> D<
[07:08] <nickrud> Lorri, you can control most of the same stuff under system-prefs-font details button
[07:08] <harry> can someone giv me a link on where to download frostwire.....
[07:08] <nickrud> !frostwire
[07:08] <ubotu> methinks frostwire is a free peer-to-peer application that runs on the Gnutella network. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrostWire
[07:08] <Fr0Gs> hey all whats the command to see what version driver is installed?
[07:08] <Fr0Gs> grep something rather
[07:08] <Fr0Gs> lol
[07:08] <keleus> driver?
[07:08] <keleus> er...
[07:09] <Fr0Gs> Video Card Driver
[07:09] <Fr0Gs> i meen lol
[07:09] <keleus> "i meen lol"?
[07:10] <Lorri> What's the preferred BT client for ubuntu?
[07:10] <keleus> i use azureus straight from sourceforge. i extract and run it from my home directory (useing blackdawn java)
[07:11] <Lorri> I'll just get azureus through synaptic
[07:11] <keleus> its out of date...
[07:11] <Snowfairy_> Is there a way to reference virtual desktops by window id or display?
[07:11] <babo> Does anyone have the link to the tutorial that tells me how to associate a protocol (skype) with a program (skype) in firefox ? thanks ...
[07:11] <FluFlo> Lorri, depending or your repos may be not available
[07:11] <neutrinomass> keleus: But the repositories are the preferred means of getting software :)
[07:11] <Lorri> I have <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu2
[07:12] <Lorri> listed
[07:12] <keleus> neutrinomass, or running it as a user from in your home directory is safer :)
[07:12] <FluFlo> nevernind, it is on universe
[07:12] <Lorri> I lov ehow Vista requires 15gb to install
[07:12] <keleus> neutrinomass, im a freak... i have a nonpriveledged user for most of my non-system network-listening programs
[07:12] <Lorri> and Ubuntu requires 2gb
[07:12] <dugg> hi. if i have a file on my dekstop, and i am asked to give its directory, is it: /home/username/desktop <name of file>  ?
[07:13] <keleus> Lorri, vista is still got all the debug stuff
[07:13] <AngryElf> so, 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' broke lots of things........how do i get rid of it completely?
[07:13] <Lorri> I can understand that, but
[07:13] <keleus> Lorri, if everything in ubuntu still had debug symbols in them and breakpoints etc. it would be rather large
[07:13] <nickrud> dugg, yes, except it's Desktop
[07:13] <Lorri> oh
[07:13] <neutrinomass> keleus: That has nothing to do with getting it from the repository. Installing software from outside the repository breaks things and you never need to run azureus as sudo AFAIK
[07:13] <Lorri> And I love how Windows Vista clocked my cpu to 100% when I opened  Internet Explorer
[07:13] <Fr0Gs> hey all whats the command to see what version Graphic Driver is installed? i think its grep something
[07:14] <wooby> i'm having a problem wiht 6.06 amd64, "configure: error: C compiler  cannot create executables"
[07:14] <keleus> neutrinomass, how would extracting a java binary to /home/user/azureus and running it from there break things? its not an installer...
[07:14] <wooby> anyone able to help?
[07:14] <dugg> nickrud: thanks man
[07:14] <keleus> hmm, seems the repositories azureus has been updated...
[07:15] <neutrinomass> keleus: Well to begin with, it's inconvenient because it won't update itself :P
[07:15] <keleus> neutrinomass, er, azureus has auto-updates... and the repository version installes a crapload of unecessary dependencies (including a version of java i dont want)
[07:16] <FluFlo> keleus, I do that way, I install azureus in my home and it is fine
[07:16] <neutrinomass> keleus: OK then, I agree :)
[07:16] <usman> hello to everyone
[07:16] <keleus> do you really agree or give up? :D
[07:16] <itux> anyone running a webserver with xampp?
[07:16] <usman> can any one tells me how to run .wma files in ubuntu
[07:16] <neutrinomass> keleus: I agree 90% and give up 10% :-p
[07:17] <keleus> yay! sourceforge got rid of the javascript BS and put the download URLS back!
[07:17] <cdubya> !tell usman about Restricted Formats
[07:18] <keleus> well i gota get some sleep.
[07:18] <FluFlo> usman, I think there is a plug-in for xmms, but im not sure
[07:18] <usman> what is restricked formats ?
[07:18] <suyog> i need help with xgl, please!
[07:18] <cdubya> itux, I've setup xampp on win xp......
[07:19] <suyog> my video playback is very bad when using xgl. any help?
[07:19] <Snowfairy_> Is there a way to reference virtual desktops by window id or display?
[07:19] <nickrud> usman, a paget that walks you thru getting support for things like that: concentrate on the alternate media players & the windows codecs
[07:19] <usman> yes there is a plugin for Xmms but its not working
[07:19] <Fr0Gs> how can i listen to music threw XMMS and talk on TeamSpeak!!! it won't work
[07:19] <Fr0Gs> lol
[07:19] <keleus> !confuse Fr0Gs
[07:19] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, keleus
[07:19] <Fr0Gs> ?
[07:19] <keleus> yes!
[07:19] <choi> can i install windows game on my ubuntu?
[07:19] <cdubya> heh, hit by a windmill.
[07:19] <keleus> forgot this was #ubuntu not #debian
[07:19] <itux> does xampp use proftpd on xp?
[07:19] <tristanmike> !tell choi about wine
[07:20] <suyog> i get frame-by-frame video playback when running xgl. how can i fix it?
[07:20] <keleus> Fr0Gs, are you trolling? or do you really not know?
[07:20] <cdubya> itux, I didn't setup anything of that nature.....it installed php, mysql apache and some nice web configurators
[07:20] <nickrud> suyog, wait for xgl to get fixed from what I've read.
[07:21] <cdubya> didn't mess with ftp with it.
[07:21] <usman> thanks
[07:21] <itux> why not set it up on ubuntu? =)
[07:21] <rob11> hi All
[07:21] <Madpilot> wow - soundjuicer in Dapper uses 93% CPU just to rip a CD - it didn't in Breezy... :|
[07:21] <cdubya> itux, it wasn't my machine, and the woman only uses winders..... :-/
[07:22] <cdubya> itux, but I've got her husband on Breezy and soon to be Dapper....heh
[07:22] <itux> i see :-)
[07:22] <rob11> I am looking for an rsync mirror for dapper ?
[07:22] <keleus> im using XFCE... hwo do i fix debconf to stop trying to use gnome?
[07:22] <Fr0Gs> i followed that esd thing keleus it still doesnt
[07:22] <Fr0Gs> let me have to sounds
[07:22] <nickrud> keleus, ?
[07:23] <keleus> nickrud, when im installing packages debconf complains about some gnome perl lib being missing (duh! no gnomes on this system) and falls back to Dialog
[07:23] <keleus> nickrud, i would rather it fall back to a different kind of prompt, or just default to dialog (which is curses based)
[07:23] <cdubya> itux, it's one of those situations where the user actually believes in their mind that they can't survive without using M$ software....it's tragic. :)
[07:23] <Snowfairy_> Maybe a different question will get an answer.... is there a way to capture a screen image from a virtual desktop I'm not looking at?
[07:24] <cfk> what is the gnome gui thing that sets up WPA wifi keys?
[07:25] <keleus> well im really going to sleep now...
[07:25] <nickrud> keleus, there will be something about that in debconf-doc , I don't have it installed yet
[07:25] <cdubya> cfk, didn't know there was one at this point.....but I gave up on wpa because I couldn't ever get it to work right.
[07:25] <cdubya> Snowfairy_, you mean using vnc?
[07:26] <cfk> cdubya - I got it working on my other box
[07:26] <Snowfairy_> no... I mean like, I'm on workspace 1
[07:26] <itux> how do you color your name like that?
[07:26] <Snowfairy_> I want to screenshot workspace 4
[07:26] <Snowfairy_> without switching to it.
[07:26] <cdubya> oh
[07:26] <cfk> cdubya: but I installed about 4 tings - not sure which actually made it all work
[07:26] <cdubya> cfk, I followed the wiki and it still didn't work. Gave up trying. Wasn't that critical to me as I just used WEP.
[07:28] <nickrud> keleus, still here?
[07:29] <owen> anyone experienced any problems with emu10k1 cards under amd64 dapper?
[07:32] <harry> can someone giv me a link on where to download frostwire.....
[07:32] <nickrud> !frostwire
[07:32] <ubotu> [frostwire]  a free peer-to-peer application that runs on the Gnutella network. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrostWire
[07:32] <nickrud> harry ^^
[07:32] <harry> nickrud: do you know where???
[07:32] <nickrud> harry, that page has a link
[07:33] <AngryElf> so, I just removed kubuntu, and I still have the kubuntu boot-up and shut-down screens.......which is :( and I'd rather not have them....is there an easy way to switch it back to ubuntu?
[07:34] <nickrud> AngryElf, I think you should only have to do the last two steps on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[07:35] <Ademan> what's the latest version of wine?
[07:35] <xice> .14
[07:36] <sexcopter8000m> hi, something very strange is happening for me. update-manager says there are two updates in the tray, but when i run it it logs me out and restarts X again... any ideas?
[07:36] <sexcopter8000m> i tried running it through gksudo update-manager, and it does spew out something in the console, but i can't read it fast enough before it disappears
[07:36] <nickrud> sexcopter8000m, first thing I'd do is ctl-alt-f1 , log in and run sudo apt-get upgrade , see if that fixes it.
[07:37] <cfk> how can I tell what gets loaded into the upper bar ting next to the clock?
[07:37] <AngryElf> nickrud, i suppose we'll see, thanx!
[07:37] <cfk> so I can figure out what I installed to get the networky thing that works ;)
[07:38] <sexcopter8000m> nickrud, i can get round it with synaptic, that's not a problem. just wondered why this is happening, and moreover if my laptop could have been comprimised?
[07:38] <Ademan> so whats the latest version of wine?
[07:38] <cfk> right click, about - "NetworkManager Applet"
[07:39] <Madpilot> Ademan, xice already told you - 0.14
[07:39] <nickrud> sexcopter8000m, no idea really. You might try looking on https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs , see if there's something similar
[07:39] <xice> well, its 0.9.14 i believe
[07:39] <Ademan> Madpilot: the version i have is 0.9....
[07:39] <Ademan> xice: ok
[07:39] <Ademan> thanks
[07:39] <xice> oh its 0.9.15 now
[07:39] <xice> just updated the other day
[07:40] <nickrud> Madpilot, I see you use wine a lot also ;)
[07:40] <Ademan> i didnt think you were talking to me cause i figured i didnt have a version of wine from the future lol
[07:40] <sexcopter8000m> nickrud, ok, well now it's updated, the manager isn't crashing X, that's something at least.
[07:40] <SD> is anyone else having gnone-cups-icon consume large amount sof cpu time?
[07:40] <snakeman> hello folks..I have a particular USB IBM ultranav keyboard...where would I go to get help maximizing features(such as scrolling w/ the touchpad)
[07:40] <SD> sorry *amounts of*
[07:40] <jsgotangco> i believe its a known issue
[07:40] <nickrud> SD, I've seen it do that shortly after gnome startup, but it goes away
[07:40] <rob138> when i install a version of wine through WineCVS.sh, nothing becomes executable, is there somethign i am doing wrong?
[07:40] <Madpilot> nickrud, never - evidently xice's info wasn't totally complete ;)
[07:40] <Ademan> and, uh, additionally, i just did wine --version, and it spat back 0.9.9  ... am i nuts?
[07:40] <xice> the 0.9 is basically just saying that wine will never be 1.0 (i guess), so it really only goes by
[07:40] <xice> the final digit
[07:41] <SD> nickrud: this is happening after ive been logged in for a few hours
[07:41] <xice> Ademan, apt-get update and upgrade
[07:41] <Ademan> so i'm behind?
[07:41] <nickrud> I think jsgotangco was commenting that this known and logged as a bug somewhere SD
[07:42] <Ademan> how badly? because i dont have the wine snapshot repository
[07:42] <Ademan> and i dont really care that much, unless i'm badly behind
[07:42] <SD>  ah i c
[07:42] <rob138> does anyone know how to help me troubleshoot my problem?
[07:43] <Ademan> rob138: have you tried just installing the version of wine straight out of the ubuntu repositories?
[07:44] <Whiteboy7> d
[07:44] <rob138> Ademan, yeah but it will not get CS:S working, so i want to try different options like the dx9 version and the cedega version
[07:44] <rayston> whats the command to view what video drivers I am using?
[07:45] <Ademan> the .wine/userdef.reg file... do i technically need to edit that so that the registries point to the right places?
[07:45] <Whiteboy7> ok i've tried installing ubuntu using the alternate cd but when i tried to boot it fails on pbbuttonsd then the screen goes blank
[07:47] <tylerofl> does anyone know of a way to pinpoint the cause of a system crash?
[07:48] <tylerofl> it seems to happen at random
[07:48] <tylerofl> mouse stops, sound loops a section over and over, etc
[07:49] <tylerofl> it only seems to happen after awhile when sound is going, but for me that's all the time, so...
[07:49] <dugg> guide from site: 1. Open up a console window.
[07:49] <dugg> 2. cd /usr/src
[07:49] <dugg> 3. sudo tar xjvf name_of_source_file.tar.bz2
[07:49] <dugg> 4. sudo ln -s name_of_dir_where_file_was_untarred_to linux
[07:49] <dugg> stuck on 4
[07:50] <dugg> how do i know the name of dir where file was untarred to linux?
[07:50] <dugg> anyone please?
[07:50] <chron> how can i make stuff from source
[07:50] <chron> what package do i need?
[07:51] <iiiears> build-essential
[07:52] <iiiears> chron - alien is helpful in converting rpm to deb
[07:52] <Healot> and some other development packages depends on what you're building
[07:52] <tristanmike> dugg: unless you specify otherwise, the untaring extracts to current directory
[07:52] <nf4> how long should it take to burn a 3.5gb dvd iso?
[07:52] <Healot> nf4: depends on your burner
[07:52] <nuomi> it depands on your driver
[07:52] <nf4> is 5minutes about right
[07:52] <someothernick> depends on speed
[07:52] <Whiteboy7> no
[07:52] <Healot> 1500 Kbps = 1 speed
[07:52] <nuomi> and disk itself
[07:53] <Whiteboy7> 5 minutes is way too fast
[07:53] <nf4> my burner is 16x
[07:53] <Healot> and the disk write capabilities
[07:53] <someothernick> burn 4x more gooder
[07:53] <nf4> thats what i thought
[07:53] <Healot> 16x1500 then nf4, if the disk also support 16x write speed
[07:53] <dugg> tristanmike: which is..? sorry i am a total beginner here.
[07:54] <nf4> how can i tell if the dvd burned properly
[07:54] <Ademan> with wine is it reccomended to keep the default as Windows 2000 ?
[07:54] <iiiears> healot - see if hdparm  helps
[07:54] <Healot> dugg: the default directory name is the same as the file name minus the ".tar.bz" extension
[07:54] <tristanmike> dugg: "pwd" in a terminal lists the current directory and "ls"  lists the files/directories in your current directory
[07:55] <Geoffrey2> Ademan, Codeweaver Crossover, which is a commcercial version of wine, sets it's default bottle as  win98
[07:55] <Healot> iiiears: if BIOS already enabled DMA, there is no need for hdparm ;-
[07:55] <iiiears> Geoffrey - Maybe you could educate me? Does crossover office support directX 8 or 9?
[07:56] <ubuntu> hello
[07:56] <rage> Hey, I'm having some problems installing dapper, it freezes at the last stage of installation, 97% "Completely removed ntfsprogs". The freeze is a complete lock up, no response to pings mouse movement ect, it just sits there
[07:56] <nf4> my bios told me that dma was enabled but ubuntu said it wasnt
[07:56] <nf4> tell i enabled it in ubuntu
[07:56] <Healot> !hdparm
[07:56] <tristanmike> !dma
[07:56] <ubotu> Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hard disks run faster,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[07:57] <rage> Its really quite annoying, it crashes before its finished making /boot/grub/menu.1st
[07:57] <dugg> tristanmike and Healot: thank you
[07:57] <iiiears> nf4 - Yep, some hdparm settings aren't enabled so Ubuntu can support a wider number of machines
[07:57] <Ademan> DMA does a hell of a lot more than that...
[07:57] <rage> So I'm having to boot my other operating systems manually
[07:58] <tristanmike>  dugg: :)
[07:58] <nf4> for dvds you need it or it will think that you dont have decss installed
[07:58] <nf4> if the dvd has css on it
[07:58] <iiiears> there are some other nice tweaks to wring the last bit of performance from your hardware.
[07:59] <iiiears> hdparms
[07:59] <nf4> well it seems that dvd burned correctly
[07:59] <Madpilot> iiiears, 6.06 is supposed to enable DMA automatically on all supported hardware - it did for me, when I did a re-install
[07:59] <nf4> when i click properties it is 3.5 just like it should be
[08:00] <nf4> mine was too but i figured that was becouse i updated from brezzy
[08:00] <Geoffrey2> iiiears, no, it doesn't support any version of Directx...will it ever, I have no idea...as I see  it, wine is designed to run Windows applications...Directx isn't actually an application but an API
[08:00] <iiiears> Madpilot. - How old does your machine have to be to NOT support DMA?
[08:01] <Madpilot> iiiears, pretty old, from what I've heard
[08:01] <Healot> any mobo with PIO only support
[08:01] <konfuzed> yo js_ is that john the shark
[08:01] <Healot> most mobo from 2000 or newer support DMA2/5
[08:02] <nf4> i dont think it has to do with your machine being old but rather the drives
[08:02] <harry> what do they meant on this page that to make sure i have the ubuntu desktop installed when upgrading to dapper drake from CD https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades
[08:03] <nf4> do you guys have a prefer one dvd-R over the next
[08:03] <nf4> or should i buy what is on sale
[08:04] <snooplsm> hello folkes...
[08:04] <Healot> the DVD-R disk? or the burner?
[08:04] <nf4> disks
[08:04] <Geoffrey2> does anyone know what restricted format software is actually legal in the US?
[08:04] <nf4> i picked up a 25 pack of philps for 7$
[08:04] <Healot> no, technically
[08:05] <snooplsm> question: Apache2 and Mysql are giving me errors when I try loading their package.  mysql says "Error, Dependency is not satisfiable. mysql-client-5.0"  i'm trying to install the server tho.
[08:05] <AngryElf> anyone heard of a firefox plugin that inverts webcolors......trying to get rid of the constant white backgrounds
[08:05] <nf4> i thought restricted just ment that it isnt open source
[08:05] <nf4> like the nvidia drivers
[08:06] <snooplsm> web  server tutorial for ubuntu??
[08:06] <Healot> well... some restrictions do include export restriction
[08:06] <Healot> like DVDCSS for example
[08:07] <rage> Is there a text mode installer on 6.06?
[08:07] <the_Kane> hey
[08:07] <someothernick> alternate cd
[08:08] <Healot> and the server CD...
[08:08] <snooplsm> hey fellers, when you try installing a package and it doesn't allow you to.. why is this?
[08:08] <nf4> i dont under stand decss the guy who wote it won the battle aginst the mpaa didnt he
[08:08] <AngryElf> how can I manually invoke NTP updating?? if I sudo ntpdate it says there's no servers avilable
[08:08] <Madpilot> snooplsm, what exact error did you get?
[08:08] <Madpilot> AngryElf, in Gnome, do it thru the clock's GUI
[08:08] <snooplsm> "Error, Dependency is not satisfiable. mysql-client-5.0"
[08:08] <snooplsm> happens w/ apache also
[08:08] <the_Kane> rage: yes its the Alternate CD
[08:09] <snooplsm> Madpilot, "Error, Dependency is not satisfiable. mysql-client-5.0"
[08:09] <Madpilot> snooplsm, that package is in main repo
[08:09] <robert_[vodka] > how do I configure my sysem to set a static ip addr on my network/
[08:10] <snooplsm> Madpilot, i dont understand
[08:10] <snooplsm> main repo?
[08:10] <iiiears> Madpilot try to install Mplayer.  "Will not be installed"
[08:10] <harry> is it bad idea to upgrade to dapper drake from the internet???
[08:10] <snooplsm> its on my cd?
[08:10] <harry> is it bad idea to upgrade to dapper drake from the internet???
[08:10] <hukkka> harry: well worked fine with me
[08:10] <Owen> robert_[vodka] , you need to edit your dhcpd.conf
[08:10] <chron> dpkg -i debfile.deb
[08:10] <chron> is that how you install?
[08:10] <Owen> I will pm you
[08:10] <chron> a deb
[08:11] <Madpilot> snooplsm, Main is one of the repos that's always enabled, is what I meant - so it should be able to install mysql-client-5.0
[08:11] <harry> hukka: after getting the breezy up to date, you performed the upgrade to dapper???
[08:11] <snooplsm> ok so i do sudo apt-get install mysql
[08:11] <snooplsm> right?
[08:11] <snooplsm> does ubuntu have root?  don't remember typing a pword for root
[08:12] <Healot> root account is disable by default
[08:12] <rage> snooplsm: Yes it does, sudo passwd
[08:12] <Madpilot> snooplsm, use sudo & your own user pw
[08:12] <someothernick> sudo pass is same as your user
[08:12] <Healot> it's there, but disabled
[08:12] <someothernick> :/
[08:12] <Madpilot> rage, that's not needed or encouraged
[08:12] <someothernick> late
[08:12] <iiiears> snoopism - Is Sudo -s acceptable?
[08:12] <robert_[vodka] > Owen: Are you the same Owen from castlenet? :P
[08:12] <snooplsm> umm E: Unable to lock the administration directory
[08:12] <snooplsm> whats that mean
[08:12] <Owen> sure aren't
[08:13] <Owen> snooplsm, do you have two synaptics running?
[08:13] <rixth> How do you get the mimetype of a file?
[08:13] <snooplsm> :-)
[08:13] <snooplsm> 1
[08:13] <iiiears> another app has a write lock on an open file?
[08:13] <snooplsm> gotcha
[08:14] <harry> hukka: did you just click the upgrade to 6.06 LTS at update manager???
[08:14] <iiiears> snoopism - If you are running PHPtake a look at suPHP - nifty.
[08:14] <snooplsm> one final question
[08:15] <snooplsm> where can I find the dir of all these packages
[08:15] <snooplsm> i tried doing sudo apt-get install mysql
[08:15] <snooplsm> says it can't find it..
[08:15] <Lesiuk> you have bad respozitories
[08:15] <the_Kane> QUESTION: does annyone here, use there windows machine with a proxy server and wireless router to access internet on their ubuntu machine? i do and i get an error every now and then saying connection refused by proxy server. I've changed proxy's like 4-5 times and that hasn't fixed it. any ideas?
[08:15] <snooplsm> where are they stored on my pc/dvd
[08:15] <robert_[vodka] > Owen: where *is* dhcpd.conf?
[08:16] <Owen> haha.. sorry, nevermind me.. I am thinking of fedora
[08:16] <robert_[vodka] > blah
[08:17] <iiiears> the_kane - Windows machine is forwarding your connection to the internet?     Ubuntu ... Windows Machine ... Internet?
[08:17] <timfrost> snooplsm, there are separate server and client packages - mysql-server and mysql-client
[08:17] <robert_[vodka] > where/how do I get ubuntu to stop taking a dynamic IP?
[08:18] <rage> robert_[vodka] : System menu, administration, networking
[08:18] <the_Kane> iiiears: yeh, Internet-->Windows-->Wifi Router-->Wifi Card-->Ubuntu
[08:18] <snooplsm> timfrost, yes I just need to find the right file names, i tried mysql-server
[08:18] <keleus> the_Kane, what version of windows?
[08:18] <robert_[vodka] > rage: I have the server distro
[08:18] <Ademan> you guys, when trying to install steam on my computer, (with wine of course, i get the following error) err:seh:setup_exception stack overflow 4 bytes in thread 000c eip 7ffb697a esp 7e08bffc stack 0x7e08c000-0x7e19c000 err:seh:setup_exception stack overflow 148 bytes in thread 0009 eip 00446fe7 esp 7faa0f6c stack 0x7faa1000-0x7fbb0000 does that technically mean if someone expanded the default stack for wine then it would work?
[08:18] <the_Kane> keleus: XP Pro
[08:19] <keleus> the_Kane, winXP is limited in teh amount of connections/second and the number of connections. could be the issue right there
[08:19] <harry> will i be able to upgrade to dapper for using only the update manager???
[08:19] <rage> robert_[vodka] : Ah, umm, well I'm new to Ubuntu, but I can tell you the debian way, edit /etc/network/interfaces
[08:19] <keleus> the_Kane, anti-worm stuff from a recent patch (that doesnt really help)
[08:19] <iiiears> the_kane - I can only guess. You said it was working. - Windows gives me trouble that way when i enable file sharing. - Would using a router to NAT gateway for alll machines be easier?
[08:20] <Lesiuk> keleus: you can change it
[08:20] <harry> will i be able to upgrade to dapper for using only the update manager???
[08:20] <Lesiuk> keleus: i have on windows max connections per secound set on 50
[08:20] <the_Kane> iiiears: what do you mean NAT Gateway?
[08:20] <spikeb> harry: yup
[08:20] <the_Kane> keleus: could you please explaine more on that? are you saying that i cant fix that?
[08:20] <keleus> the_Kane, http://www.speedguide.net/read_articles.php?id=1497
[08:20] <iiiears> Internet .. Router ... All Machines.
[08:20] <keleus> the first section expains
[08:21] <dugg> whenever i try to install nvidia's drivers, i got "No precompiled kernel interfaces was found to match your kernel..." help please
[08:21] <harry> spikeb: i just have to change the sources.list right????
[08:21] <spikeb> harry: if you just use the update manager, it will do all of that for you
[08:21] <the_Kane> iiiears: im on dial-up so i cant fead the internet straight to the router
[08:21] <timfrost> snooplsm, is this breezy or dapper? For me (dapper/x86), the packages are in main over the network.  They are *not* on the dapper CD
[08:21] <xpc> hejj
[08:21] <the_Kane> keleus: thanks ill give it a read
[08:21] <n30n> I need help with wineX install.
[08:21] <garryfre> dugg: Is this breezy or dapper?
[08:21] <n30n> i have the script #!/bin/bash
[08:21] <n30n> cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/winex login
[08:21] <n30n> cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/winex co wine
[08:21] <n30n> #wineX is wine with supply directx instruction
[08:21] <harry> whats wineX????
[08:21] <keleus> the_Kane, if you think thats the problem, look for "Event ID 4226 Patcher" on the page
[08:22] <n30n> do i put that in the source.list?
[08:22] <the_Kane> keleus: thank you ;)
[08:22] <dugg> garryfre: dapper
[08:22] <n30n> harry:  Supposeivly its wine with a directX instruction
[08:22] <chakra85_> hi
[08:22] <chakra85_> can anyone help me with mysql?
[08:22] <garryfre> dugg here is a link that works for any dapper ubuntu or kbuntu .... link coming
[08:23] <n30n> chakra85 what are you trying to do
[08:23] <keleus> the_Kane, not saying this is the cause of your issue, but it COULD be, and you may want to "fix" the fix anyways. as the article explains, even with the limit the ability to spread worms is still rediculous (so the "fix" microsoft did was pointless)
[08:23] <chakra85_> i just installed mysql-server and i'm trying to create a database
[08:23] <garryfre> say dugg https://wiki.kubuntu.org/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[08:23] <chakra85_> but i keep getting "error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'"
[08:23] <the_Kane> keleus: well i guess ill just apply that patch anyhow
[08:23] <keleus> the_Kane, funny, i couldn't sleep so i popped back on for a second, and saw your issue :) maybe it was meant to be :)
[08:24] <n30n> chakra85_ you need a password
[08:24] <chakra85_> n30n, so how do i set one?
[08:24] <keleus> the_Kane, if you dont trust the patcher, the next section on the article tells you how to patch it yourself
[08:24] <the_Kane> keleus: lol :P
[08:24] <garryfre> !tell dugg about nvidia
[08:24] <harry> n30n: ive installed starcraftdemo and its pretty slow, whats the cause of it?? is it the nvidia drivers not installed or the wine itself or its because its a demo?????
[08:24] <n30n> chakra85_ its the password for your root user. do you have one?
[08:24] <the_Kane> keleus: alright ill take a look
[08:24] <n30n> harry: are you using wine?
[08:24] <chakra85_> n30n, i don't think i ever set one explicitly. is it the same password that I use when i sudo?
[08:25] <n30n> harry: it's because wine is slow. how much other stuff do you have installed
[08:25] <nf4> dose any one know how to format a flash card with ubuntu
[08:25] <n30n> chakra85_ try it.
[08:25] <nf4> i screwed mine up trying to write files on a unstable usb port
[08:25] <chakra85_> n30n, in what form? $ sudo mysqladmin password <pwd> create gallery2
[08:26] <iiiears> the_kane - I haven't looked at it in over a year but the "Linux Router Project" may be of interest.
[08:26] <dugg> garryfre: apparently the latest nvidia driver doesnt work well with some cards.. including mine..
[08:26] <harry> n30n: i used wine... i just tried wine with starcraft and winamp. thats all i did.... is it really because of the wine????
[08:26] <nf4> what card?
[08:26] <chakra85_> n30n, when i try that it gives me the same error
[08:26] <n30n> chakra85_: that looks good. it should be $ sudo (what you are accessing) enter, and then it should ask you for password
[08:26] <garryfre> dugg what card is it? You might have to use the legacy drivers. that link should tell you how to use the legacy nvidia-glx
[08:26] <dugg> garryfre: so i am trying to install an older driver. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80314
[08:27] <dugg> garryfre: geforce fx5200. i dont think i should go with the legacy drivers
[08:27] <n30n> harry: What eles do you have installed and how much ram do you have? Wine is good if you have lots of process speed. but it burns up
[08:27] <n30n> harry: try having nothing eles runing but wine and that program.
[08:27] <avis> dugg its really easy to apt-get the ubuntu packaged nvidia driver
[08:27] <chakra85_> n30n, when i type "$sudo mysqladmin" it just lists the help for mysqladmin. i think i've already typed in the password once for this session
[08:28] <garryfre> Ok, it might work as a last resort the legacy driver. Dapper seems to want some sort of glx driver.
[08:28] <iiiears> Wine is great. Cedega is maybe supporting DirectX for gaming.
[08:28] <iiiears> *better
[08:28] <Abatrour> hey guys, i have a question on making ubuntu a qos router
[08:28] <n30n> chakra85_ what are you trying to do? create a mysql database?
[08:28] <Abatrour> are there any guides out there that go through that procedure?
[08:28] <chakra85_> n30n, here's the output when i try something like "$sudo mysqladmin ping": mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[08:28] <chakra85_> error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'
[08:29] <chakra85_> yes
[08:29] <keleus> Abatrour, i would recommend using something like openBSD or freeBSD for making network appliances...
[08:29] <garryfre> dugg Seems dapper has a repository of pre-compiled drivers for bout any dapper kernel released.
[08:29] <n30n> iiiears: wineX has directX
[08:29] <iiiears> keleus - yeppers.
[08:29] <Ademan> can you specify a stack size with wine?
[08:29] <avis> dugg, first things first, be sure to have latest kernel for your architechture.  enable mutliverse in your sources.list.  apt-get install your restriced modules for your arch if it didn't do it automagically.  then apt-get install nvidia-glx then type nvidia-glx-config enable as root.
[08:29] <harry> n30n: my RAM is 768MB ddr 266 and my hard drive is 40gig 31.50 gig available space,
[08:29] <Abatrour> yeah, i would have used monowall or something but i'm wanting to do more with it than just qos routing
[08:29] <garryfre> !nvidia
[08:29] <ubotu> it has been said that nvidia is Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:29] <someRandomGuy> is there a way in Konqueror, to make one folder have a different icon size than others???
[08:29] <Abatrour> i'm trying to make a qos router/ file server to stream media to my other computers and modded xbox
[08:30] <avis> dugg, then restart X but dont listen to me, visit the url
[08:30] <avis> :)
[08:30] <chakra85_> n30n, did you see that output? i can repaste it if you want
[08:30] <n30n> chakra85_: Idk. It sounds like its not configured right.
[08:30] <garryfre> I don't think so someRandomGuy
[08:30] <iiiears> n3on - True. Still Cedega also has support for some of those "wacky" - grin     protection schemes included on game CDs.
[08:30] <secretpickle> can anyone recommend a decent FTP program besides gFTP? gFTP seems to be a bit buggy to me
[08:30] <someRandomGuy> garryfre: b/c that would be convenient for folders with videos and pictures n such
[08:30] <chakra85_> n30n, oh... any advice on how to configure it?
[08:30] <n30n> chakra85_: try changing it from connecting to localhost to <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:30] <keleus> ubotu, no, nvidia is a graphics card manufacturer. For help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu, you can visit the Ubuntu Wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/NVidia
[08:30] <ubotu> keleus: okay
[08:30] <someRandomGuy> garryfre: should definitely be an added feature
[08:30] <keleus> !nvidia
[08:30] <chakra85_> n30n, how do i do that?
[08:30] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, a graphics card manufacturer. For help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu, you can visit the Ubuntu Wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/NVidia
[08:31] <keleus> thats better.
[08:31] <n30n> chakra85_: i don't remember give me a minute. But i know i had the problem with my website to with UNIX
[08:31] <harry> can someone giv me a link in ubuntu wiki to install sun java
[08:31] <timfrost> !java
[08:31] <iiiears> !java
[08:31] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and see also !javadebs
[08:31] <someRandomGuy> harry: java.com
[08:31] <chakra85> n30n, wait, i'm stillhere
[08:32] <garryfre> say someRandomGuy Ahh, yes, I think I stand corrected. its under view i the browser and I think you can set it according to folder.
[08:32] <n30n> chakra85_: i don't think it knows where to go for "localhost" so if you make it connect to <IP_ADDRESS> (mirror ip) it will work
[08:32] <iiiears> timfrost: I'll beat you to it next time. - lol
[08:32] <someRandomGuy> garryfre: so you can? cool thx
[08:32] <chakra85> n30n, is there a .conf file somewhere that I can change?
[08:32] <harry> someRandomGuy: i mean running the command in terminal to get sun java. there are 2 kinds the black and the sun
[08:32] <garryfre> I hate bad grammar when I type it.
[08:32] <dauddaud> Hi all ... appreciate some help here ... new to Ubuntu ...  the install misidentified my Multitech Multimodem ZPX as an Agere Venus modem, and seems to think it is on ttyS4.  Naturally it doesn't work  :(  (it works under SUSE 10.1 (dual boot) where it is on ttyS0).  How do I go about setting it straight? (6.06 Dapper i386)
[08:32] <n30n> chakra85: are you running linux server?
[08:32] <keleus> heh
[08:32] <chakra85> n30n, haha, i'm actually not even sure where mysql lives on my file system
[08:33] <snooplsm> !mysql
[08:33] <garryfre> someRandomGuy welcome.
[08:33] <chakra85> n30n, yeah - apache2
[08:33] <edulix> hi!
[08:33] <n30n> chakra85: gotcha. hold
[08:33] <edulix> I think I did an update yesterday
[08:33] <iiiears> Welcome edulix.
[08:33] <edulix> and today gdm doesn't start anymore, libcairo.so.2 can't be found
[08:33] <the_Kane> keleus: apparantly my windows machine didn't need patching :S
[08:33] <edulix> and of course it's installed the package libcairo2
[08:33] <n30n> chakra85: alright. we shall try to work threw this together. Can i PM you?
[08:34] <keleus> edulix, !esuoh yzarc eht ot emoclew
[08:34] <chakra85> n30n, yeah that would be awesome
[08:34] <keleus> the_Kane, service pack not installed?
[08:34] <snakeman> how can I have multiple addresses on different subnets in ubuntu?
[08:34] <edulix> leleus: ?
[08:34] <the_Kane> keleus: yeh SP2
[08:34] <dugg> garryfre: i installed the legacy drivers. so how do i check if the drivers are working?
[08:34] <edulix> oh maybe it's the prelink thingie...
[08:34] <iiiears> the_kane - There was a big patch released for critical vulnerabilities on the Redmond OS on the 13th.
[08:34] <keleus> edulix, im just being a fool... read that line backwards
[08:34] <edulix> ah :P
[08:35] <the_Kane> iiiears: how would that help me?
[08:35] <n30n> chakra85: i send you a message. did you get it?
[08:35] <chakra85> n30n, nooo.. i'll try sending you one
[08:35] <keleus> iiiears, he uses his windows box for a proxy and gateway... and sometimes it refuses connections for no apparent reason
[08:35] <garryfre> say dugg I just looked closer at that link you sent. and it applies to breezy. tehre should be some line in that link I sent about enabling the driver then closing all apps and doing ctrl-alt-backspace to restart xserver. If you see the nvidia splash screen you are good to go.
[08:35] <iiiears> the_Kane:  heh - NVM - (goes back to sit iqueitly in the corner.)
[08:35] <Abatrour> are there any settings in ubuntu 6.06 for internet sharing?
[08:35] <avis> dugg, the legacy drivers are fine but the 5200 should be able to do the nvidia-glx.  though follow your bliss.
[08:36] <keleus> the_Kane, check your event logs under computer management... maybe some clues would be in there... (right click "My Computer" and choose manage)
[08:36] <garryfre> Oops sorry for the private say sent to the public channel
[08:36] <Abatrour> options i mean, anything for qos?
[08:36] <the_Kane> iiiears: lol i hoped that didn't sound rude, i was just wondering :P
[08:36] <n30n> chakra85: are you runnign xchat for IRC?
[08:36] <chakra85> n30n, yes
[08:36] <the_Kane> ok brb
[08:36] <Geoffrey2> that last security update from MS makes me really glad I decided to try out Ubuntu
[08:36] <Healot> I am running windows :)
[08:36] <iiiears> the_kane -  Thats okay. it didn't
[08:36] <n30n> chakra85: you should have gotten a message under #ubuntu at the top left
[08:36] <keleus> iiiears, i brought up the 10 connection/second limitation and a workaround, but that wasnt the problem
[08:36] <avis> garryfre, for what its worth i follow the directions on the url exactly and when i restart X i know i get the new driver, but -- no nvidia splash screen.
[08:37] <avis> the reason i know is i have to readjust my monitor.
[08:37] <keleus> I can't remember EVER owning a legal copy of windows (except the one that came with my laptop, and was immediatly removed in favor of Pro edition...)
[08:37] <keleus> but now i'm clean :)
[08:37] <rage> I know Xgl is exactly supporting in Ubuntu but does anyone know if it has issues with two monitors?
[08:37] <ppj1010> no way in hell im paying $300 for software
[08:37] <chakra85> n30n, yeah, it says n30n underneath #ubuntu, but that channel only contains my message to you saying hello
[08:37] <garryfre> avis that's worht a lot, its good to know when a links' instructions fail to work
[08:37] <avis> rage, yes it does
[08:38] <avis> garryfre, i would think it would happen to someone other than me :)
[08:38] <avis> as well.. that is. .
[08:38] <garryfre> dugg I looked up your card, it doesnt' list it as needing legacy.
[08:38] <keleus> ppj1010, i managed to get MS Office 2003 Pro from my college under a special licence.... only $80 US
[08:38] <Amaranth> snooplsm: ?
[08:38] <ppj1010> open office
[08:38] <Amaranth> Ahem.
[08:38] <keleus> ppj1010, i never said i use it :)
[08:38] <CaptainMorgan_> ooooh - wireless IS better with Dapper!
[08:38] <garryfre> avis what nvidia card to you have?
[08:38] <avis> neat we have an ubuntu support person here :)
[08:38] <Amaranth> Please don't discuss illegal activities here.
[08:38] <avis> its the fx5200
[08:38] <avis> made by msi
[08:38] <avis> 128mb
[08:38] <chakra85> n30n, and another message underneath that (from me) saying hello?
[08:39] <n30n> chakra85: it's not connecting for somereason
[08:39] <Amaranth> avis: That should work with the nvidia-glx package.
[08:39] <keleus> well, illegal is a relative term :) but i take your point and will refrain from discussing potentially troublesome topics
[08:39] <avis> sorry garryfre sometimes i just type things on a couples lines instead of a long segment.  been in console too long ;)
[08:39] <Geoffrey2> I installed Sun's JRE from Synaptic, however, I couldn't set any of the java-alternatives like the wiki instructions say I should...is this a problem?
[08:39] <garryfre> avis Its listed as non-legacy, use regular nvidia-glx, make sure you download the precompiled driver for your particular kernel.
[08:39] <avis> aye it does.
[08:39] <dsas> n3on, chakra: Are you both registered with freenode?
[08:39] <chakra85> n30n, ok... so i found a package called mysql-admin that gives me gui access to my database
[08:39] <avis> yes garryfre i did all that
[08:39] <garryfre> avis :) np
[08:40] <snooplsm> Amaranth keeps a tight ship
[08:40] <n30n> chakra85: yeah i was gonna suggest something along those lines
[08:40] <chakra85> n30n, i put in hostname: localhost user: root and password: <pwd>
[08:40] <chakra85> n30n, and for some reason it logged in
[08:40] <keleus> ppj1010, its funny though, now they have student and teacher edition for ~ 150. Even though they could afford to sell it to me for 80, and you KNOW there was still profit on that. It's sickening
[08:40] <chakra85> n30n, do you think i can create a new database here?
[08:40] <garryfre> say avis did you then run sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[08:40] <noiesmo> avis, heres a oneliner for nvidia sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common linux-386 linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[08:40] <n30n> chakra85: sweet. yes you can.
[08:40] <Amaranth> Geoffrey2: What wiki page? What command are you running and what error are you getting?
[08:40] <keleus> ppj1010, and student/teacher is standard edition.... they sold me professional
[08:40] <avis> garryfre, the banshee package seems to be missing in icon, as trivial as that is..  though i dont remember if i read that on your companies wiki or not.
[08:40] <garryfre> say avis and then do ctrl-alt-backspace
[08:41] <noiesmo> avis, just edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to have nvidia
[08:41] <Amaranth> noiesmo: nvidia-glx pulls all that in
[08:41] <chakra85> n30n, awesome thanks for you help
[08:41] <avis> noiesmo, thats great !
[08:41] <Amaranth> noiesmo: And once you've installed it you can run sudo nvidia-xconfig
[08:41] <Amaranth> noiesmo: No need to manually edit the file.
[08:41] <chakra85> n30n, it's very weird that the pm didn't work though
[08:41] <iiiears> keleus - Ubuntu.. Ubuntu/ - #Ubuntu - lol
[08:41] <keleus> ?
[08:41] <avis> noismo, i like to do the linux-686 because it installs everything i need through synaptic.
[08:42] <Madpilot> chakra85, PM only works in freenode if you're registered & identified here
[08:42] <n30n> chakra85 yeah. i think maybe the PM is disabled. Yesterday the login to #ubuntu was restricted untill you register so i think someting got messed up when that happened
[08:42] <avis> yes i did restart X, garryfre
[08:42] <avis> i'm confused
[08:42] <the_Kane> keleus: i found 2 errors that looked like they could be the problem (the same 2 errors came up a fair bit...)
[08:42] <noiesmo> avis, thats fine just example
[08:42] <chakra85> Madpilot, n30n: ooooh
[08:42] <avis> i'm going to go hide
[08:42] <squiggly> http://www.hai2u.com/
[08:42] <the_Kane> keleus: do you want to see them?
[08:42] <chakra85> Madpilot, n30n: haha. ok that makes sense. how do i register?
[08:42] <keleus> the_Kane, sure. pastebin would be good
[08:42] <Amaranth> avis: Ok, let's start over.
[08:42] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell chakra85 about register
[08:42] <avis> no i got it fine
[08:42] <garryfre> avis ok, then lets try a screensaver like euphoria and tell me if you get animation.
[08:42] <n30n> chakra85: go to the freenode root
[08:42] <keleus> heh winXP tech support in #ubuntu
[08:42] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell n30n about register
[08:42] <Amaranth> avis: Everything is working?
[08:42] <avis> ok
[08:43] <chakra85> Madpilot, n30n, thanks
[08:43] <n30n> Madpilot: i am registered... it was him that isn't. and i was about to explain it
[08:43] <Amaranth> garryfre: err, just run glxinfo | grep direct
[08:43] <the_Kane> keleus: alright give me a sec
[08:43] <Madpilot> n30n, OK - you identified too?
[08:43] <n30n> Madpilot: Yeah. I did yesterday.
[08:44] <the_Kane> keleus: http://pastebin.com/710173
[08:44] <n30n> madpilot: well snapz it looks like it's not anymore... i was yesterday
[08:44] <garryfre> Amaranth My nvidia driver is working fine, its Avis and Dugg having issues, but I am goin to try that to see what it looks like
[08:44] <Madpilot> n30n, you have to identify every time you log in - /msg nickserv <password>
[08:44] <iiiears> Madpilot - Is there any way to reclaim a forgotten password?
[08:44] <n30n> Madpilot: i know
[08:44] <Madpilot> iiiears, no idea
[08:45] <n30n> Madpilot: i left this open over night i guess my session expires
[08:45] <Madpilot> n30n, most IRC clients can auto-identify you when you sign in
[08:45] <avis> garryfre, yes i do though its rendered rather slowly.  perhaps its my video card.  but i do see it.
[08:45] <the_Kane> keleus: Windows Machine: <IP_ADDRESS>      Ubuntu: <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:45] <n30n> Madpilot: Are you an OP?
[08:45] <Madpilot> n30n, here, yes
[08:45] <nemik> hello, how could i see which app is holding port 80?
[08:45] <hangfire> anyone know if the official Sun Java compiler/sdk is on the ubuntu repository?
[08:45] <Geoffrey2> Amaranth, wiki.ubuntu.com/java tells me I should sudo update-alternatives for java, jar, javac, javadoc, javah, javap, and javaws
[08:45] <garryfre> say avis try glxinfo | grep direct and tell me the output.
[08:46] <iiiears> "netstat"
[08:46] <avis> the answer is yes garryfre
[08:46] <avis> yes to rendering
[08:46] <avis> over.
[08:46] <keleus> the_Kane, looks like a typo in your samba configuration on the line specifiying the workgroup? also, your linux machine is basically trying to take over the workgroup, and the windows machine is responding by disabling the browser service (bad) or forcing an election (which your linux machine would probably win due to configuration mentioned earlier - which is also bad in this case)
[08:46] <harry> QUESTION. WHEN CRACKING A GAME EXAMPLE DIABLO 2 IN WINXP. IS IT THE SAME WHEN CRACKING IT IN UBUNTU
[08:46] <Geoffrey2> sudo update-alternatives --java worked fine...for jar the sun version didn't show up as an option, and every other one I tried gave me a message that there were no alternatives
[08:46] <n30n> Madpilot: what are "memos" oh here?
[08:47] <avis> i didn't mean that rudely garryfre if you thought that.  i'm just weird tonight.
[08:47] <garryfre> avis Congratulations, it is installed correctly, thanks to that command from Amaranth I got from him to see if its running.
[08:47] <Amaranth> harry: Please do not discuss illegal activities here.
[08:47] <avis> ok..
[08:47] <n30n> Madpilot: its like an office job all over again
[08:47] <garryfre> avis ah no, all is fine. :)
[08:47] <avis> wonderful
[08:47] <avis> its nice to meet you garryfre
[08:47] <keleus> harry, WARNING: doing so can get you banned from bnet easily, whether you are cracking it legally or not. The methods to prevent banning in windows MAY NOT WORK under wine due to incomplete API implementation
[08:47] <Madpilot> n30n, memos? server notices, you mean? Or what?
[08:47] <harry> Geoffrey2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[08:47] <Amaranth> keleus: ...
[08:48] <keleus> harry, see DIABLO2 in the wine application database at winehq.org for a script that will make your CDs work, rather than cracking.
[08:48] <n30n> Madpilot: it says i have no new memos.
[08:48] <Madpilot> n30n, then nobody's sent you any, that's all
[08:48] <garryfre> avis Welcome, Its so nice to solve someones bug. :)
[08:48] <n30n> Madpilot i was both happy and confused at the same time.
[08:48] <Geoffrey2> harry, those are the directions I followed...they aren't working
[08:48] <the_Kane> keleus: how can i fix all this?
[08:48] <the_Kane> keleus: also, i haven't set up samba.. only installed smbfs and added a line in fstab to mount windows partitions
[08:48] <n30n> Madpilot: well yeah i concluded that if i had none noone sent me any... but i was wonder what it is. is it like a PM mailbox for missed messages
[08:49] <Madpilot> n30n, you can /memo anyone who is registered here - /memo #NICK Msg
[08:49] <harry> keleus: thnx for the warning. i just asked since that what everyone use when using windows XP illegall.
[08:49] <the_Kane> ... i just got kicked by windows again
[08:49] <keleus> Amaranth, with D2, lots of people have issues getting the copy protection to function. one workaround is to crack it. see http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=74
[08:49] <n30n> Madpilot: hm. cool. so its like a PM for if their offline?
[08:50] <Madpilot> n30n, exactly - it works whether someone is online or off
[08:50] <n30n> Madpilot: gotcha.
[08:50] <harry> Geoffrey2: what are you trying to install???
[08:50] <Amaranth> keleus: That does not make it any more appropriate for this channel.
[08:50] <keleus> harry, here for more information: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=74
[08:50] <dauddaud> .
[08:50] <keleus> Amaranth, cracking a cd protection is in no way illegal.
[08:50] <keleus> but again, i will defer rather than argue
[08:51] <the_Kane> keleus: how can i fix all this?
[08:51] <the_Kane> keleus: also, i haven't set up samba.. only installed smbfs and added a line in fstab to mount windows partitions
[08:51] <keleus> the_Kane, one way is to set up samba so your linux machine is on a different workgroup
[08:51] <n30n> keleus: it's only illegal to crack cd protection if you copy and sell the contents
[08:51] <iiiears> the_kane - Sounds really frustrating. If the linux router project IPCop, or Astara ($$$) isn't interesting. Maybe Ebay for some used hardware to do RAS?
[08:51] <keleus> you can still mount the smb
[08:51] <harry> Geoffrey2: the sun java worked on me when i was trying to install frostwire using AnyOS...
[08:52] <the_Kane> keleus: how can i set up samba to do that?
[08:52] <garryfre> Or give the copies away I suppose.
[08:52] <keleus> that would fix the browser election issue, anyways
[08:52] <the_Kane> iiiears: id really rather not buy new hardware :S
[08:52] <dsas> n30n: That's not true in the US or in Europe (see the DMCA and the EUCD)
[08:52] <keleus> the_Kane, you can edit the configuration files. I suggest reading up on SWAT (web based samba configuration tool).
[08:53] <n30n> dsas: yes it is. It's illegal still in US and Europe but they don't really impose it on you unless you are selling it
[08:53] <keleus> the_Kane, or you can just change your windows machine's workgroup :)
[08:53] <the_Kane> keleus: you got a link?
[08:53] <garryfre> I find it strange, that many companies make rules, saying it's illegal to do this or that, but these rule makers are not part of a legislative branch of any government.
[08:53] <dsas> n30n: So you just agreed with me, it's illegal.
[08:53] <keleus> swat is in the repositories
[08:53] <keleus> heres some information on it:
[08:53] <the_Kane> keleus: yeh that sounds easier :P how do i do that (change the windows workgroup...)
[08:53] <keleus> http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=74
[08:53] <avis> well if you give away the contents its also illegal
[08:53] <arnold> hello
[08:53] <n30n> dsas: only formally.  Basically you can give up priveleges but not rights, so that the only ones that can take your rights away are authorities otherwise such contracts are null and void.
[08:54] <keleus> the_Kane, yes. browsing for shares wont work, but specifying the IP address or hostname of the server to connect to will
[08:55] <keleus> the_Kane, which sounds like what you are doing, if you set it up in fstab
[08:55] <n30n> dsas: AHHHH THIS IS SUCH A POLICITAL OFFTOPIC THING
[08:55] <garryfre> The trick is knowing what is your rights and what are your priveleges.
[08:55] <the_Kane> keleus: well ill go and see if i can change the windows workgroup now...
[08:55] <keleus> the_Kane, beware, doing so will make windows restart
[08:55] <Geoffrey2> I installed the Java JRE for ubuntu...it installed...then the wiki instructions tell me to use sudo update-alternatives to make the Sun version the default for the various java formats...but for the most part I cannot do that
[08:55] <arnold> the windows computers on my network don't have access to my samba server whereas my samba can see every shared folders of the Win computers...
[08:55] <garryfre> Hmmm, your right. back to ontopic mode
[08:55] <avis> n30n, not if its practical relating to ubuntu :)
[08:55] <iiiears> Hey, Everyone loves Ubuntu. - Talk about laws, Politics, Wares in channel and we undermine the chance to help new linux users. - please stop.
[08:56] <avis> #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:56] <keleus> the_Kane, silly as it is... i would suggest doing so anyways (so random people don't see your shares in network places if they get on your network somehow)
[08:56] <arnold> windows doesn't have permission....
[08:56] <n30n> dsas: ok. yes you are right. it is illegal. I am only saying that i don't view it as illegal because they don't do anything about you doing it.