[00:00] <prospero1> i tar'd the firmware all i did
[00:00] <prospero1> but why didn't the same work the first time
[00:00] <vitimiti> bye
[00:00] <nonkn4mer> prospero1: I've been following this most of the afternoon... glad it's finally working
[00:00] <bobweaver> enjoy it hope that you learned something today. That proprietary firmware is a pain in the maybe or at any rate good to see that it is working now
[00:01] <prospero1> nonkn4mer: thank you i've almost lost hope
[00:01] <Virunga> night
[00:01] <bobweaver> prospero1,  you  should 100% file a bug against that
[00:02] <prospero1> how, at launchpad?
[00:02] <bobweaver> if you know how or have the time. well sorry do what you like but I would 100% fiule a bug
[00:02] <prospero1> wow linux is making my brain hurt
[00:02] <bobweaver> prospero1,  yeah  in terminal
[00:02] <bobweaver> ubuntu-bug firmware-b43-installer
[00:02] <bobweaver> !bug | prospero1
[00:03] <bobweaver> prospero1,  maybe title can be part of error msg in dmesg about the firmware that is missing
[00:04] <bobweaver> !bug 1045533 | prospero1  or you can just check that this affects you also
[00:05] <mattt__> Why would I be able to successfully use sudo or su in bash, but not in zsh?
[00:05] <bobweaver> or maybe file against jockey-gtk because it is not pulling it in auto style
[00:05] <prospero1> im on it didnt have launchpad acc
[00:06] <bobweaver> prospero1,  thanks for making Ubuntu better by filing bugs =)
[00:07] <prospero1> no prob, but what best to say in summary?
[00:09] <almoxarife> what apt-get command will show me the installed packages in size order, biggest first?
[00:10] <george___> ubuntu people suck donkey dicks...fuck them up their ass
[00:11] <almoxarife> george seems angry
[00:11] <mattt__> what gave you that impression?
[00:11] <almoxarife> mattt__: :)
[00:11] <mattt__> :P
[00:11] <Rosbuntu> :P
[00:11] <almoxarife> !apt
[00:15] <blackshirt> hello
[00:15] <prospero1> bobweaver: how best should i describe it? put dmesg in?
[00:16] <blackshirt> was ubuntu plan to adapt kfreebsd as a platform supported ?
[00:17] <maylow> hi
[00:17] <maylow> ik need help with grub install from live cd
[00:17] <blackshirt> hi maylow
[00:17] <maylow> Path `/boot/grub' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting.
[00:17] <bobweaver> maybe jockey-gtk is not installing linux-firmware-nonfree     then you can passte the errors that you where getting
[00:17] <maylow> here is my problme
[00:17] <bobweaver> sorry prospero1  ^^^
[00:17] <maylow> hi blackshirt
[00:18] <maylow> anyone any ideas?
[00:18] <blackshirt> you can boot through live cd and enter recover console to reinstall your grub... But exactly,why do you want to reinstall your grub?
[00:19] <maylow> blackshirt: i am in a chroot
[00:20] <maylow> blackshirt: and grub-install yelds
[00:20] <maylow> 0
[00:20] <maylow> Path `/boot/grub' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting.
[00:20] <maylow> the root fs is restored by fsarchivert from another hdd
[00:27] <Rosbuntu> i dont understand why ppl use ubuntu when they have xp or windows 7 pirated
[00:27] <Rosbuntu> :p
[00:27] <bobweaver> wonder whats on that pirated stuff ;)
[00:28] <jrib> Rosbuntu: #ubuntu-offtopic for that; this channel is for support with ubuntu :)
[00:28] <Rosbuntu> jrib ;)
[00:32] <linuxmintmaya> so
[00:33] <linuxmintmaya> anyone know how to get mouse bindings to be persistent
[00:33] <OerHeks> in linux mint?
[00:33] <linuxmintmaya> in ubuntu based distros
[00:33] <linuxmintmaya> its all relatively the same
[00:33] <linuxmintmaya> it has to do with xinput
[00:33] <bindir> I'm trying to rename recursively all files that have : in the name to - but sed/awk are puking and so is python
[00:34] <linuxmintmaya> I need a certain xinput command to be run at startup...but after my mouse has been properly identified.....
[00:34] <linuxmintmaya> how do i do that
[00:34] <bindir> we rsynced a volume from mac to zfs and it changed a bunch of stuff to the :
[00:34] <linuxmintmaya> I am currently having to unplug and replug my mouse every startup to get it to be reckognized
[00:34] <linuxmintmaya> why?
[00:35] <bindir> linuxmintmaya: is this in a VM?
[00:35] <linuxmintmaya> vm?
[00:35] <bindir> virtual machine
[00:35] <linuxmintmaya> no
[00:35] <bindir> oh
[00:35] <linuxmintmaya> on a dualboot system
[00:35] <linuxmintmaya> mint13 and win7
[00:35] <bindir> wired mouse?
[00:35] <linuxmintmaya> yes wired
[00:35] <OerHeks> sounds like a mint issue, install ubuntu for the real deal.
[00:35] <bindir> plugged into a usb 2.0 port?
[00:36] <linuxmintmaya> http://oi48.tinypic.com/2dkwshi.jpg
[00:36] <linuxmintmaya> check it'
[00:36] <linuxmintmaya> yes usb 2.0
[00:36] <bindir> hmm I've seen that with keyboard/mice in usb 3.0 ports
[00:36] <linuxmintmaya> HID compliant mouse
[00:36] <linuxmintmaya> its listed twice for some reason...that might be the problem
[00:36] <linuxmintmaya> is there some way to fix that?
[00:36] <iceroot> !mint | linuxmintmaya
[00:36] <bindir> not sure I haven't really used a mice much with linux
[00:37] <linuxmintmaya> they cant help me...there are no gurus there
[00:37] <iceroot> linuxmintmaya: doesnt matter
[00:37] <linuxmintmaya> been at it for days now
[00:37] <iceroot> linuxmintmaya: this is for ubuntu not mint
[00:37] <linuxmintmaya> mint is ubuntu btw
[00:37] <linuxmintmaya> herp derp
[00:37] <bindir> based on*
[00:37] <iceroot> linuxmintmaya: its offtopic here, please respect that
[00:37] <NaZZaX> hey whats the file in apache that allows http access
[00:37] <bindir> .htaccess?
[00:38] <iceroot> ubuntuprecise17: stop it
[00:38] <ubuntuprecise17> there happy
[00:38] <ubuntuprecise17> please help linux mint community is lacking in volume and the help crosses over
[00:39] <iceroot> ubuntuprecise17: as i said already, stop it, mint is offtopic here
[00:39] <bindir> install ubuntu, then install  apt-get install gnome-session-fallback
[00:39] <bindir> and y ou have ubuntu with gnome if that's why you're using mint
[00:39] <ubuntuprecise17> I need to execute a startup command after my mouse has been id'd by xinput
[00:40] <ubuntuprecise17> this is a LINUX related question not a mint one
[00:40] <iceroot> ubuntuprecise17: are you a troll?
[00:40] <iceroot> ubuntuprecise17: please go to the mint support channel
[00:40] <bindir> he kinda has a point
[00:40] <ubuntuprecise17> like i already said....no one there can help, please dont be a dick
[00:40] <iceroot> ubuntuprecise17: we dont care, we support ubuntu here and now stop it please
[00:41] <ubuntuprecise17> my os is pretty much identical to yours so why wont you help me?
[00:41] <OerHeks> bindir, mint has its own issues, not related to ubuntu.
[00:41] <bindir> xinput set-prop "whatever you need set etc"
[00:41] <NaZZaX> i am working on openstack horizon with ms Active directory LDAP
[00:41] <NaZZaX> and i am getting Not Authorized
[00:42] <wubino> is there anyway to install firefox16 from apt?
[00:42] <ubuntuprecise17> if you look here
[00:42] <iceroot> wubino: sudo apt-get install firefox
[00:42] <ubuntuprecise17> http://oi48.tinypic.com/2dkwshi.jpg
[00:42] <iceroot> !info firefox
[00:42] <bindir> btw ubuntuprecise17: http://bit.ly/X67uSy
[00:42] <iceroot> hm
[00:42] <ubuntuprecise17> you can see that xinput is naming my mouse twice and I think that might be the problem
[00:43] <bindir> have been to the website google and typed your exact question in to the search box yet?
[00:43] <iceroot> strange, my firefox is ff17 why does ubottu tell me its 15
[00:43] <IdleOne> ubuntuprecise17: This channel does not support Mint. Please stop asking in here, you might try ##linux if your distros channel can't help you
[00:43] <OerHeks> me too iceroot
[00:43] <wubino> iceroot: apt wants to install 17
[00:43] <bindir> so anyone know shell scripting at all?
[00:44] <RiXtEr> bindir, join #bash
[00:44] <iceroot> OerHeks: ah its because its in precise-updates and precise-security but ubottu is only checking the main repo
[00:44] <ubuntuprecise17> thanks for nothing, way to support the linux community
[00:44] <bindir> thanks
[00:44] <OerHeks> any 6 weeks there is a new firefox
[00:45] <wubino> iceroot:  it autoupdates for one and canonical looks lke they have been keeping up with mozilla releases from my cl
[00:45] <iceroot> wubino: from the normal ubuntu-repos you will not get ff16
[00:46] <iceroot> wubino: the repos are onyl holding the latest version, normally there are not two versions of a program (some exceptions like samba, python and so on)
[00:47] <iceroot> wubino: is there a special reason why you need ff16?
[00:47] <prospero1> who can tell me a good intro book to linux
[00:47] <wubino> iceroot: thanks that is what I suspected
[00:48] <wolfygang> does anyone know about android kernels?
[00:49] <IdleOne> ##android
[00:49] <wolfygang> everyones afk:/
[00:49] <iceroot> wolfygang: offtopic here
[00:49] <IdleOne> wolfygang: be patient
[00:50] <iceroot> are there any ways to run ubuntu on armV6? (rasperry pi?) as it seems ubuntu does not support that architecture just newer arm-chips
[00:51] <IdleOne> iceroot: #ubuntu-arm should know
[00:52] <iceroot> IdleOne: thx, didnt know that
[00:52] <OerHeks> iceroot no, only arm v7
[00:53] <OerHeks> there is a possible download for FF 16 > https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/
[00:56] <puppy_parade> my video in totem is flickering above a certain size, and whenever I try and play on VLC, VLC has no borders/menu bar and is maximized and stuck on my central screen.
[00:56]  * deadly away: [Inativo por mais de 30 minutos] [desde: 21:56, page: on]
[00:57] <IdleOne> !away > deadly-Away
[00:58] <relipse> this is hilarious http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lD9FAOPBiDk
[00:58] <IdleOne> relipse: No off topic links please
[01:02] <OerHeks> puppy_parade, vlc shows menu in top panel, that is called global menu
[01:02] <kn0ne> I installed k3b and two entries were put on Menu. How can I remove one?
[01:03] <puppy_parade> OerHeks, it doesn't.
[01:03] <puppy_parade> even if I ctrl alt 1 there is no menu or borders
[01:03] <OerHeks> puppy_parade, maybe hit F11 ?
[01:04] <puppy_parade> then it goes fullscreen; with the control box disappearing
[01:04] <puppy_parade> hmm, wait it worked
[01:04] <puppy_parade> I've done f11 before...
[01:04] <OerHeks> :-)
[01:05] <puppy_parade> lemme try opening it from a video
[01:05] <puppy_parade> the menu is there now, but no video.
[01:06] <puppy_parade> same issue as with totem, video only appears when the screen is smaller than a certain size
[01:06] <puppy_parade> a size, which decreases over time.
[01:06] <designbybeck__> I have a Dell 17 Studio Laptop running Ubuntu 12.10.. I think it is overheating the system? could this be the case?
[01:07] <designbybeck__> it seems since 12.04 it has been running hotter?
[01:07] <puppy_parade> do you have lm-sensors installed?
[01:07] <designbybeck__> what is that puppy_parade
[01:07] <puppy_parade> temperature sensors
[01:07] <puppy_parade> should be in the repositories
[01:07] <designbybeck__> i'll check
[01:08] <puppy_parade> search for sensors
[01:08] <designbybeck__> looking now
[01:10] <designbybeck__> puppy_parade: i see a xsensors
[01:10] <designbybeck__> oh now i see the lm one
[01:11] <puppy_parade> you have to configure it, iirc, but I always just mash enter.
[01:11] <DaemonicApathy> Is there any reason for me not to uninstall busybox on a standard desktop or server installation? Ubu 12.04
[01:12] <designbybeck__> k
[01:12] <phy1729> DaemonicApathy: is there a reson for you to uninstal it?
[01:13] <DaemonicApathy> phhy1729: Why keep track of updates for something I don't seem to use or need? It's just a waste of space, if it's not necessary. I try to keep my server as minimal as possible.
[01:13] <DaemonicApathy> *phy1729
[01:14] <phy1729> DaemonicApathy: if you want as minimal as possible I wouldn't run ubuntu
[01:14] <phy1729> It's not hurting anything and diskspace is cheap
[01:14] <bug-traq> lucid was one of the better linux versions
[01:15] <designbybeck__> puppy_parade: how is it ran?
[01:15] <puppy_parade> "sensors"
[01:15] <puppy_parade> in the command line
[01:15] <designbybeck__> ah
[01:15] <puppy_parade> it should ask you a bunch of questions, with a default answer set
[01:15] <designbybeck__> ah that doesn't seem to bad right now
[01:15] <puppy_parade> aah, it works
[01:15] <puppy_parade> woot
[01:15] <DaemonicApathy> phy1729: I didn't mean 'minimal' quite that drastically, but you have a fair enough point. Honestly, I just don't see a necessity for it, and wasn't sure if uninstalling would create any problems.
[01:16] <designbybeck__> though i think i'm about to fry an egg on this thing for dinner
[01:16] <puppy_parade> psensors is a graphical interface
[01:16] <puppy_parade> there are others
[01:17] <designbybeck__> thanks
[01:17] <phy1729> It's 1.6M and you're not entirely sure what it does and it's in /bin. I would not touch that. I would read the man page and realize how useful it could be for recovery.
[01:19] <designbybeck__> oh i was looking at c instead of F.... yeah these are running hot and I'm only on chat!!
[01:19] <designbybeck__> i closed Firefox with Facebook open
[01:19] <designbybeck__> so now just IRC
[01:19] <designbybeck__> and the fan is running and burning hot to the touch!!!!
[01:20] <WeThePeople> how do i get wireless working in fluxbox
[01:20] <puppy_parade> for a laptop, shooting the fan with canned air usually does wonders.
[01:21] <designbybeck__> thanks puppy
[01:21] <puppy_parade> or blowing it it to get dust out almost as well
[01:21] <puppy_parade> (with the machine off)
[01:21] <blackshirt> wethepeople, there cli version of network-manager, called nmcli...cmiiw
[01:21] <puppy_parade> also, check to see if anything else is runningf
[01:21] <puppy_parade> sometimes I have compiz chewing away on a core.
[01:22] <relipse>  does anyone know where the tradition came from to originally have it say Mrs. and Mr. <HisFirstName> <HisLastName> at weddings?
[01:23] <designbybeck__> compiz is only about 2%cpu
[01:23] <rhagu> hi, is there a canonical run ppa for newer kernel versions? 3.6 on 12.04 for example
[01:24] <designbybeck__> maybe i have to get one of those usb  laptop cooler pads!?
[01:24] <bug-traq> wethepeople try this to get wireless working on fluxbox ...... install NetworkManager-gnome
[01:25] <user10980495> Can't get images in dillo browser 3.  Small office home network and I am using an C class of IP.
[01:41] <WeThePeople> bug-traq, that didnt do anything
[01:41] <jesusemelendezm> Also I have already sudo apt-get install openssh-server.
[01:41] <jesusemelendezm> should I configure some additional features?
[01:41] <dr_willis-> yor set the routers port forwarding?
[01:41] <jesusemelendezm> connecting through port 22, ssh
[01:41] <WeThePeople> bug-traq, the hardware is enabled but the wifi isnt, idk how to enable the wifi
[01:42] <jesusemelendezm> I haven't.
[01:42] <phy1729> jesusemelendezm: what does "sudo service ssh status" give?
[01:42] <jesusemelendezm> probably that's the reason why......
[01:42] <dr_willis-> be my first guess
[01:42] <jesusemelendezm> the forwarding
[01:42] <jesusemelendezm> let me check ssh status guys
[01:42] <mattrae> hi, ubuntu 12.10 is supposed to add remote login using citrix ica. it doesn't work though.. ica client doesn't appear as an option http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/09/ubuntu-12-10-login-screen-adds-remote-desktop-access
[01:43] <bug-traq> wethepeople , you running ubu 12,04 ??
[01:43] <dr_willis-> you could forward sime port other than 22 also in case places  blick 22
[01:43] <bug-traq> ok wethe people
[01:44] <jesusemelendezm> yes, guys I am running ubuntu 12.04
[01:44] <jesusemelendezm> I just built a ubuntu machine with 32 RAM for virtualization
[01:44] <jesusemelendezm> I am also running some other linux versions as guests..
[01:44] <WeThePeople> bug-traq, yes.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1398204/
[01:44] <jesusemelendezm> but the host is 12.04 desktop but with server roles.
[01:45] <phy1729> jesusemelendezm: can you ssh in from another box on the lan?
[01:46] <jesusemelendezm> yes, I can do it. I just use a laptop and PUTYY software. It works!!! so that means... I shouldn't modify anything in my router. I am within my LAN. I am not going outside the world or from outside to inside the network......
[01:46] <jesusemelendezm> Phy1729... you give me more thoughts...
[01:47] <phy1729> jesusemelendezm: I assume you have a firewall between the internet and lan?
[01:47] <dr_willis-> so.. whats the problem jess jesusemelendezm ?
[01:47] <jesusemelendezm> sudo service ssh status is running!
[01:47] <bug-traq> wethepeople are you sure the wireless card in working ???
[01:47] <WeThePeople> bug-traq, yes
[01:47] <dr_willis-> if the phone is on the local lan it should worl
[01:47] <dr_willis-> work...
[01:48] <jesusemelendezm> again, I am not from outside..I am in the LAN. my phone is other node in the network... my phone has <IP_ADDRESS> and the ubuntu machine has <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:48] <jesusemelendezm> I shouldn't modify anything in the router...
[01:48] <bug-traq> wethepeople try this in terminal  ....sudo lshw -C network
[01:48] <bug-traq> it will give you a lowdown of what is working and whats not and such
[01:48] <dr_willis-> 99.244.xxxxxxx is the external ip?
[01:49] <WeThePeople> bug-traq, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1398217/
[01:50] <bug-traq> wethepeople is the wicd configured for wlano or wlan1
[01:50] <WeThePeople> wlan0
[01:50] <jValentin> is there some special method to adding a user to the sudoers group in ubuntu?
[01:51] <jrib> jValentin: no, just add the user to the "sudo" group.   You can use the command « sudo adduser USERNAME sudo » if you wish
[01:52] <WeThePeople> bug-traq, it just needs to be enabled
[01:53] <jValentin> jrib: thanks, but I did that and he still couldn't do it until I manually modified the  /etc/sudoers/ and gave him ALL
[01:53] <jrib> jValentin: you would need to login again for group membership to take effect
[01:54] <jValentin> k, if that fails, will try a reboot
[01:54] <jrib> jValentin: reboot is not necessary
[01:54] <bug-traq> thinking wethepeople
[01:54] <jesusemelendezm> sorry guys, There was a brownout and my system went down.
[01:54] <jValentin> ah, you're right, he says he can sudo now
[01:54] <jValentin> thanks
[01:55] <jesusemelendezm> connecting from SSH to my ubuntu machine.
[01:56] <phy1729> jesusemelendezm: how is your phone connected to your server?
[01:56] <madrazr> Hi, I bought a new Samsung Series 9 Laptop with Windows 8 and installed Ubuntu (12.10) on it and I am locked out now, thanks to Secure Boot. Are there any how tos or manuals on how to get through this?
[01:56] <jesusemelendezm> what was the command to check the status of ssh ?
[01:56] <phy1729> sudo service ssh status
[01:57] <jesusemelendezm> my phone is not connected yet. It is using the wireless network IEEE 802.11n
[01:57] <WeThePeople> bug-traq, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1398228/
[01:57] <jesusemelendezm> same subnet.
[01:57] <phy1729> but another computer on the subnet can connect?
[01:58] <WeThePeople> bug-traq, i have the eth0 plugged in right now idk if that is the problem
[01:58] <TeamRocket1233c> What's the chances of one of these playing nice with Ubuntu 12.10? http://www.amazon.com/Hewlett-Packard-Officejet-4620-Wireless/dp/B006M1N850/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1354240353&sr=1-4
[01:59] <jesusemelendezm> what's the command to check the status of ssh server/
[01:59] <jrib> jesusemelendezm: status ssh
[02:00] <jrib> !print | TeamRocket1233c
[02:00] <WeThePeople> bug-traq, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1398233/
[02:00] <bug-traq> wethepeople , do you see a network command line
[02:01] <WeThePeople> bug-traq, idk wat you mean
[02:01] <bug-traq> in the network manager
[02:01] <bug-traq> wicd
[02:01] <bug-traq> its a terminal in the wicd
[02:01] <WeThePeople> bug-traq, network manager and wicd are diff programs
[02:01] <bug-traq> you may have to force wifi enabling
[02:01] <WeThePeople> no i dont
[02:02] <bug-traq> yes but in networkmanager do you see a command line
[02:02] <WeThePeople> no
[02:02] <bug-traq> hmmmm
[02:02] <TeamRocket1233c> CUPS is generally friendly to HP printers though?
[02:03] <bug-traq> wethepeople , what kinda pc you have
[02:04] <WeThePeople> bug-traq, laptop hp zv-5000
[02:04] <jrib> TeamRocket1233c: I doubt you care much about whether it works in general; just if it works with the printer you buy :)  Though I imagine if you just have this thing sitting on the network and using the wireless, it shouldn't be a problem.  Check the links though for that model
[02:04] <yhusha> synaptic is failing to run
[02:05] <bug-traq> you have a broken package yhusha in synaptic
[02:05] <yhusha> o ok
[02:05] <TeamRocket1233c> jrib: Should work though.
[02:06] <yhusha> whats the sudo to find and repair broken packages
[02:06] <bug-traq> go to file i believe it is and click on fix broken pkgs and then try to update or install something from synaptic
[02:06] <bug-traq> its in the synaptic
[02:07] <bug-traq> still thinking wethepeople
[02:07] <WeThePeople> bug-traq, lol..ok
[02:08] <bug-traq> if ya seen the command line in networkmanager i have the command to force enable wireless
[02:08] <bug-traq> you might be able to try it on terminal , i havent tried it b4 , but it may work ???
[02:09] <linux_lover> Hello Helpers. Is there a way I can disable the keyboard backlight on boot, xubuntu 12.10?
[02:09] <bug-traq> wethepeople try this in terminal ....      nmcli nm wifi on
[02:10] <jesusemelendezm> done guys!
[02:10] <WeThePeople> bug-traq, it worked
[02:10] <WeThePeople> thanks
[02:11] <jesusemelendezm> the problem was that I was using the HOST NAME instead of the HOST IP!!! I am connected now from my android phone to my ubuntu home server!!!! SSH
[02:11] <linux_lover> Is there a way I can disable the keyboard backlight on boot, using xubuntu 12.10?
[02:12] <jesusemelendezm> thank you all
[02:12] <linux_lover> Is there a way I can disable the keyboard backlight on boot, using xubuntu 12.10?
[02:14] <linux_lover> Is there a way I can disable the keyboard backlight of my DELL XPS 14z on boot, using xubuntu 12.10?
[02:15] <dr_willis-> checked askubuntu.com yet linux_lover ?
[02:15] <linux_lover> dr_willis, not yet
[02:16] <bug-traq> anytime wethepeople
[02:16] <bug-traq> glad to be able to help ya
[02:17] <linux_lover> my question is too specific.
[02:17] <linux_lover> i just looked there is no similar problem
[02:17] <jesusemelendezm> I am thinking to buy the DELL vostro with ubuntu... or System 76
[02:17] <jesusemelendezm> any recommendation?
[02:17] <Programmer_> do you like linux, linux_lover
[02:17] <linux_lover> only found solution on macbooks
[02:17] <linux_lover> i dumped windows after 20 years
[02:17] <linux_lover> last week
[02:17] <bug-traq> wethepeople sometimes if you do a kernel update or upgrade , you may have to do that , ya may wanna save it somewhere
[02:18] <lindenle_> everytime ubuntu updates the kernel it takes forever and takes moy load up to 100%, has anyone sean this before
[02:18] <linux_lover> in short, yes
[02:18] <TeamRocket1233c> jesusemelendezm: System76 would probably be your best bet due to the higher likelihood of all the hardware being fully compatible with Ubuntu.
[02:18] <bug-traq> ewwwwwwwwwwwww    windows
[02:18] <bug-traq> thats a dirty word
[02:18] <Programmer_> lol
[02:18] <Programmer_> ive been using linux for about 2-3 years
[02:18] <Programmer_> what distro you on?
[02:18] <bug-traq> last windows i had was 98 se
[02:18] <TeamRocket1233c> I'm very close to ditching MS.
[02:18] <linux_lover> i used linux since 2001
[02:19] <lindenle_> seems to be the depmod run, is this normal?
[02:19] <linux_lover> but only recently moved to windows completely
[02:19] <bug-traq> i stay with lucid, to me it is the fasdtest and most reliable
[02:19] <bug-traq> fastest
[02:19] <bug-traq> lol
[02:19] <linux_lover> but only recently moved to linux completely
[02:19] <TeamRocket1233c> 'Bout 95% switched over to Ubuntu, the other 5% that's holding me back is no web connection in my bedroom, and a sucky web connection.
[02:19] <Programmer_> so you on windows now?
[02:19] <linux_lover> because i can run windows within
 but only recently moved to windows completely
[02:20] <linux_lover> sorry that was a mis-type
[02:20] <Programmer_> i only use windows for LoL and MS Office
[02:20] <linux_lover> linux is snappu
[02:20] <linux_lover> snappy
[02:20] <TeamRocket1233c> Programmer_: LibreOffice. Practically identical to MS Office.
[02:20] <linux_lover> can any of you please help me
[02:20] <Programmer_> but my job forces me to use completely windows b/c i manage windows server and pcs :(
[02:20] <bug-traq> <--- pouring my last little drink of beer out and saying it is windows , lol the last drink is spit anyways
[02:20] <bug-traq> lol
[02:20] <Programmer_> TeamRocket1233c, i know but still
[02:21] <linux_lover>  Is there a way I can disable the keyboard backlight of my DELL XPS 14z on boot, using xubuntu 12.10?
[02:21] <Programmer_> why would you want to disable?
[02:21] <linux_lover> not disable completely, but only switch on on demand
[02:22] <linux_lover> but not on boot, as I have to switch it off every time.
[02:22] <linux_lover> sometimes when the lights are on, i cant see the keys
[02:22] <seednode> I just use a Thinklight
[02:22] <asterismo> XBMC captures my mouse in the external monitor and i cannot move the mouse outside it, to another monitor
[02:23] <asterismo> what should i do?
[02:23] <linux_lover>  anyone can help my earlier question?
[02:23] <TeamRocket1233c> Programmer_: But yeah, Ubuntu, and Linux in general but especially Ubuntu > Windows.
[02:23] <linux_lover> Is there a way I can disable the keyboard backlight of my DELL XPS 14z on boot, using xubuntu 12.10?
[02:26] <TeamRocket1233c> Programmer_: More secure and stable than Windows, handles resources better, and is free, but that's a given, the part about Ubuntu that really makes it better than Windows is Unity.
[02:26] <linux_lover> i hate unity
[02:26] <seednode> I love unity
[02:26] <linux_lover> that is why i'm using xubuntu
[02:26] <TeamRocket1233c> Me too.
[02:26] <bug-traq> me too i disabled it and running classic
[02:27] <linux_lover> i have i7 8gb SSD and xubuntu
[02:27] <TeamRocket1233c> Searching for apps with the Dash and opening them via the Launcher actually seems quicker to me than searching through menus.
[02:27] <yhusha> so theres no way to fix broken packages because synaptic wont run in admin more
[02:27] <yhusha> mode
[02:27] <bug-traq> never thought bout admin mode yhusha
[02:28] <almoxarife> yhusha: can you explain a bit more?
[02:28] <linux_lover> what is the point of Unity?
[02:28] <yhusha> yea it says that it can not start in administrative mode
[02:28] <almoxarife> yhusha: it?
[02:28] <bug-traq> to me , it is like vista was , with the sidebar
[02:28] <yhusha> which is where all the ability to add remove fix edit so on is
[02:28] <yhusha> it just shows what  installed
[02:28] <yhusha> synaptic
[02:28] <TeamRocket1233c> linux_lover: To make a UI that's quicker to browse through than GNOME 2, basically, and it's pretty effective at that.
[02:29] <almoxarife> yhusha: open a terminal
[02:29] <yhusha> all set
[02:29] <cyphase> gah, gwibber is raising "OperationalError: disk I/O error"
[02:29] <linux_lover> but adding launchers at panels are much faster
[02:29] <linux_lover> and less confusing
[02:29] <almoxarife> yhusha: in terminal, >    gksu synaptic
[02:30] <yhusha> ok that launched it
[02:30] <angelpossum> dam lots o people
[02:30] <bug-traq> more the merrier
[02:30] <linux_lover> any of you from the UK?
[02:30] <angelpossum> i just figuerd out what the heck this is
[02:30] <bug-traq> more questions and more answers
[02:30] <yhusha> and it has ful ability nice
[02:30] <almoxarife> yhusha: something about the applet you have on desktop is not set to invoke 'sudo/gsku'
[02:30] <Programmer_> TeamRocket1233c/linux_loveer just to see you knowledge, how would you back up your account on linux?
[02:31] <TeamRocket1233c> Don't really have an opinion on GNOME Shell.
[02:31] <linux_lover> my account?
[02:31] <angelpossum> o Pokemon
[02:31] <linux_lover> i have my account with HSBC not with ubuntu
[02:31] <TeamRocket1233c> Didn't get into it enogh to develop an opinion.
[02:31] <angelpossum> am i invisible someone anser me
[02:31] <yhusha> yes it started with the use of the e17 gui
[02:31] <almoxarife> angelpossum: your not
[02:31] <TeamRocket1233c> angelpossum: Wobba!
[02:32] <angelpossum> o cool i thought i set this up wtong
[02:32] <angelpossum> lol
[02:32] <angelpossum> wobbafei
[02:32] <linux_lover> angelpossum I cannot see you, where are you?
[02:32] <TeamRocket1233c> angelpossum: *Wobbuffet*
[02:32] <angelpossum> what do  o i get it
[02:32] <yhusha> e17 is of course "enlightenment"
[02:33] <angelpossum> f u yhusha phyc
[02:34] <almoxarife> angelpossum: you have a question?
[02:34] <bug-traq> programmer , you talking about menu and apps or the whole thing backup ???
[02:35] <angelpossum> not raelly well yes how do i send a message to a specifi person
[02:35] <linux_lover> i used Deja Dup
[02:35] <kantlivelong> hey all.. im setting up a raid 5 using mdadm.. im a bit confused on what to do.. i made autodetect partitions on each drive.. the total size will end up over 4TB requiring GPT.. do i need to make a partition on the md0?
[02:35] <linux_lover> it works well to back user-related data
[02:36] <angelpossum> hey any one there
[02:36] <bug-traq> yes angel
[02:36] <bug-traq>  what up
[02:36] <dsa> "sudo mv /xfolder/ /dev/null" doesn't work in ubuntu?
[02:36] <angelpossum> actually im a guy
[02:36] <angelpossum> not much tho
[02:37] <almoxarife> angelpossum: you have a question?
[02:37] <bug-traq> ok , shoulda called you possum then ???/
[02:37] <angelpossum> just chillin bein bord
[02:37] <angelpossum> dosnt matter i really could care less
[02:38] <bug-traq> damn i help some people and learn something new every night in here
[02:38] <almoxarife> !ot | angelpossum<
[02:39] <angelpossum> lol bug traq
[02:39] <bug-traq> anyone in here using linux , do any pentesting of any sort ????
[02:39] <TeamRocket1233c> Which would be better for distribution? Ubuntu Unity or Lubuntu?
[02:40] <TeamRocket1233c> Like burning off and distributing to others.
[02:40] <bug-traq> alot depends on the video card you have
[02:40] <TeamRocket1233c> bug-traq: I mean as far as ease-of-use.
[02:40] <bug-traq>  unity needs a certain strength or more for the full unity to work
[02:41] <TeamRocket1233c> bug-traq: I mean Lubuntu seems like it would be more widely adopted than Unity due to having a more familiar UI.
[02:41] <bug-traq> yup i would say lubuntu
[02:41] <dr_willis-> lubu tu is better for low end bixs. and will fit on a cd.
[02:41] <bug-traq> but then again i still use lucid
[02:41] <bug-traq> lol
[02:41] <TeamRocket1233c> bug-traq: I'm a huge Unity fan, but that don't mean others are.
[02:41] <dr_willis-> but its lacking some  features
[02:42] <angelpossum> hey how do u send a message to a specific person
[02:42] <bug-traq> i am with ya teamrocket
[02:42] <somsip> angelpossum: /msg user
[02:42] <bug-traq> but once i find a distro and and learn it , i tend to stick with it
[02:43] <TeamRocket1233c> bug-traq: I picked Unity up pretty much immediately, but most people would be all like "What the **** is this ****?" when they see it, due to being used to a taskbar and start menu, sorry 'bout the language.
[02:43] <rtg62a> hi, after I upgraded from Ubuntu 12.04 to Ubuntu 12.10, my display became very dim, and instead of starting X, it just dropped to console mode. What can I do to fix this?
[02:43] <bug-traq> its cool  , yup i can see that
[02:44] <bug-traq> i havent used windows since windows 98 se
[02:44] <angelpossum> did u get it or did i do it wrong somsip
[02:45] <bug-traq> my wife was like that , she was a windows fan and i was showing her linux , she now loves and recommends it to everyone
[02:45] <somsip> angelpossum: I don't reply to personal messages. Do this with someone who is not busy
[02:45] <angelpossum> o so u got it tho
[02:45] <WACOMalt> Hey folks, I am trying to run a transmission-daemon seedbox on my 12.04 server. But when its running I get Error 102 Connection Refused from the web browser when I try to connect. Where are logs for things like this usually stored?
[02:45] <TeamRocket1233c> bug-traq: The reaction I depicted is the general reaction to the Win8 UI, and was the general reaction to Unity when it debuted, and I think people are still, to this day, having trouble with GNOME Shell.
[02:46] <bug-traq> lol yup
[02:46] <WACOMalt> Cinnamon FTW
[02:46] <TeamRocket1233c> bug-traq: Win8's taking a lot of flak just for the Modern UI.
[02:46] <WACOMalt> I dont like my PC telling me I'm too dumb to have a non-dumbed-down UI
[02:47] <almoxarife> angelpossum: chat is welcome on #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:47] <WACOMalt> So anyone know how I can check if my server is running on port 9091?
[02:48] <invisibleheero> Hey guys, I'm unable to control my volumen using the volume control. however I can change it using alsamixer. How to I restore the functionality of the volume?
[02:48] <WACOMalt> also how can I list all users in my terminal?
[02:49] <invisibleheero> WACOMalt, have you looked at the users command?
[02:49] <WACOMalt> nope, no idea it existed :)
[02:50] <invisibleheero> although I think that's the users logged in
[02:50] <WACOMalt> yeah just shows my name
[02:50] <bug-traq> try pulseaudio invisibleheero
[02:50] <invisibleheero> try cat /etc/password
[02:50] <invisibleheero> errg
[02:50] <almoxarife> invisibleheero: did you tweak pulseaudio prior to the sound issues?
[02:50] <invisibleheero> cat /etc/passwd
[02:51] <invisibleheero> I use alsa not Pulse and I just installed ubuntustudio
[02:51] <WACOMalt> holygod, tons of users...
[02:51] <invisibleheero> yeah that's all the users
[02:52] <bug-traq> well i guess for bill gates sake , i hope win8 comes out ok , linux is on the rise big time
[02:52] <bug-traq> lol
[02:52] <invisibleheero> WACOMalt, that's pretty normal though for a server. because you run certain applications at low level
[02:52] <robertzaccour> Is there a way to download ndisgtk as a .deb file?
[02:53] <WACOMalt> I installed transmission, a long time ago, as a web service. No idea what user I used to install it but when I try to relaunch its service as root I cannot connect to the port (9091)
[02:53] <almoxarife> robertzaccour: sure, find it on the web
[02:54] <WACOMalt> Hmm when I log in with one of my new users, I am not in bash, but in some other prompt with just a $
[02:55] <TeamRocket1233c> bug-traq: I'll probably just use Lubuntu for distributing to others to be safe.
[02:55] <bug-traq> if i may here is the link for the deb file ndisgtk  for robertzaccour          http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/i386/ndisgtk/download
[02:55] <TeamRocket1233c> bug-traq: Requires the least resources, and its UI is the most familiar to Windows users.
[02:55] <WACOMalt> Anyone know why I'm just getting a $ prompt rather than bash on login?
[02:55] <robertzaccour> almoxarife: the downloads I found are just 21kb?
[02:55] <bug-traq> cool
[02:55] <WACOMalt> if I type bash I get the traditional prompt
[02:56] <bug-traq>  i havent beeen a windows fan since i learned about linux years ago
[02:56] <robertzaccour> bug-traq: those downloads are 21kb
[02:56] <jrib> WACOMalt: how was your user created?
[02:56] <almoxarife> robertzaccour: why is the size an issue?
[02:56] <WACOMalt> I honestly dont remember
[02:56] <WACOMalt> useradd?
[02:56] <robertzaccour> bug-traq: well my network and wireless drivers don't work in Linux, so trying to get a windows driver running in it
[02:56] <WACOMalt> in terminal though for sure. its headless
[02:56] <bug-traq> all i pretty much know about it , is that vista came out too early and windows 7 is easily fixed with a bootloader
[02:57] <robertzaccour> almoxarife: I'm used to .deb file sizes being much larger. Wasn't aware it could possibly a full program.
[02:57] <bug-traq> oh i got ya
[02:57] <jrib> WACOMalt: getent passwd $USERNAME
[02:57] <WACOMalt> /home/WACOMalt:/bin/sh
[02:57] <TeamRocket1233c> bug-traq: Meanwhile Xubuntu would be the most familiar to Mac fans.
[02:57] <bug-traq> yup
[02:57] <jrib> WACOMalt: you probably want to use /bin/bash, not /bin/sh (which points to dash).  Use chsh to change your shell
[02:58] <robertzaccour> TeamRocket1233c: Actually I think Gnome Shell with Docky would be most "mac like"
[02:58] <TeamRocket1233c> bug-traq: I mean aside from the windows minimizing to the top panel, Xubuntu looks a little OSX-like.
[02:58] <gar> how do i unignore in x-chat
[02:58] <bug-traq> really
[02:58] <TeamRocket1233c> robertzaccour: Where that land Unity at?
[02:58] <bug-traq>  i never really tried a mac
[02:58] <WACOMalt> Thank you jrib, that worked.
[02:59] <bug-traq>  i have worked on them some for a friend  , about it
[02:59] <robertzaccour> TeamRocket1233c: like nothing else?? haha
[02:59] <|Nordom|> I a ubuntu nub, Is there a way to run a windows VM instead of having to duel boot or use wine?
[02:59] <TeamRocket1233c> robertzaccour: lol
[02:59] <WACOMalt> jrib, any idea how I can check if a service is listening on a port? Specifically transmission-daemon on port 9091
[02:59] <jrib> WACOMalt: make sure your user has an existing home directory too...
[02:59] <WACOMalt> it does
[02:59] <jrib> WACOMalt: there's some lsof syntax you can use
[02:59] <TeamRocket1233c> robertzaccour: I could see how the Global Menus and the Launcher would seem a little Mac-like.
[02:59] <somsip> |Nordom|: runs fine in virtualbox here
[03:00] <|Nordom|> somsip:  what do you mean?
[03:00] <robertzaccour> TeamRocket1233c: yeah, applies to Gnome Shell, and Docky is by default at the bottom.
[03:00] <WACOMalt> holycrap lsof is complex
[03:00] <bug-traq> vmware
[03:00] <junglefrog> the ubuntu.com download page is broken
[03:00] <|Nordom|> I am asking can windows run in some kinda of VM so I dont need to duel boot to play games, or is wine a VM and thus I have to duel boot anyways?
[03:00] <somsip> |Nordom|: windows works fine in a virtual machine in virtualbox for me.
[03:00] <jrib> WACOMalt: it's « lsof -i :N » where N is the port number iirc
[03:00] <WACOMalt> thanks :)
[03:00] <junglefrog> trying to download 12.10 64bit
[03:00] <junglefrog> once it goes past the donate page
[03:01] <junglefrog> it starts downloading 32bit 10.04
[03:01] <bug-traq> yes nordom , you can use virtualbox
[03:01] <junglefrog> yeah...
[03:01] <WACOMalt> hmm jrib that returns nothing
[03:01] <junglefrog> someone need to tell the admin to fix it
[03:01] <jrib> WACOMalt: might need to use sudo?
[03:01] <jrib> WACOMalt: I'm actually not sure if that is necessary
[03:02] <WACOMalt> oh whoops this user isnt in sudoers :X
[03:02] <|Nordom|> bug-traq: so you mean I will no longer have to duel boot in order to use window programs including games with a virtualbox?
[03:02] <bug-traq> yup
[03:02] <bug-traq>  make sure to get the guest additions also
[03:02] <angelpossum> hey how do i click on link for msges
[03:02] <WACOMalt> how do I add a user as a sudoer?
[03:03] <|Nordom|> cool, I am duel booting, so is there away to use vitualbox and keep stuff thats already on my windows partition?
[03:03] <jrib> WACOMalt: sudo adduser USER sudo
[03:03] <TeamRocket1233c> bug-traq: You can always try using 12.04 or 12.10 with MATE or Cinnamon, assuming you're the one on Lucid.
[03:03] <bug-traq> when you set it up , make sure to give it enough ram , but not too much that you taking away from the host machine
[03:03] <bug-traq> i am the one on lucid
[03:04] <bug-traq> i have come to love lucid
[03:04] <bug-traq>  it has many , many possibilities
[03:04] <almoxarife> |Nordom|: thats a win issue, you get to resolve that one
[03:04] <TeamRocket1233c> bug-traq: You can get the same functionality from Precise or Quantal if you put MATE on those.
[03:04] <WACOMalt> hmm ok sudo lsof -i :80 returns apache2 as expected, and 9091 returns nothing, so the service is definitely not working
[03:04] <|Nordom|> on my main gaming pc I have 16 gigs of ram... But log into windows exclusively to game instead of my beloved linux... Are there any pitfalls to using windows in a VM ?
[03:04] <bug-traq>  it seeems and additions to the repository i edit works just great and no broken pkgs or worries
[03:04] <WACOMalt> now to find where logs for services are stored?
[03:05] <somsip> WACOMalt: /var/log
[03:05] <almoxarife> |Nordom|: this is not the win-virtual help page
[03:05] <WACOMalt> |Nordom|, gaming simply wont work as well in linux over a VM in windows.
[03:05] <angelpossum> hey how do i click on link for msges
[03:05] <AlexWebr> angelpossum: what does that mean?
[03:05] <TeamRocket1233c> bug-traq: I mean Lucid IS losing support in April, along with Oneiric.
[03:06] <bug-traq> the reaction time will be slower than normal probly , but not much more than that nordom
[03:06] <|Nordom|> almoxarife: as a ubuntu user, I am looking for ways to make ubuntu better for me. I feel that this coversation isnt too outside the realms of the channel
[03:07] <|Nordom|> WACOMalt: is it better then wine? Do you play games this way?
[03:07] <bug-traq> i  have lucid as my host machine and run bug-traq as my virtual and use it to pentest websites and apps with , not much difference to me nordom
[03:07] <WACOMalt> jrib, success! thanks. Though none of the stuff you helped with was my actual issue (I was an idiot and did reload instead of start on the service)
[03:07] <almoxarife> |Nordom|: well, sort of is, your questions are all related to 'how will win act in a vm?' , thats not linux/ubuntu related, at all!
[03:07] <AlexWebr> why wuld I use ubuntu when minix has been arond wayyyyy longer?
[03:07] <WACOMalt> |Nordom|, definitely better than wine IMO, but still expect worse GPU support than native windows.
[03:08] <jrib> WACOMalt: heh
[03:08] <|Nordom|> almoxarife: if you get more publishers to make linux supported programs, I wouldn't be asking these sort of questions.
[03:08] <|Nordom|> WACOMalt: Thx, I will check it out
[03:08] <WACOMalt> ok I'm off, thanks again jrib and anyone else who helped :)
[03:08] <AlexWebr> i want to use ubuntu but i think minix is better.
[03:09] <WACOMalt> I love Ubuntu aside from the UI :P but thankfully on linux that isnt an issue like it is on Win8
[03:09] <AlexWebr> why shuld i use ubuntu over minix?
[03:09] <TeamRocket1233c> AlexWebr: Newer stuff.
[03:09] <|Nordom|> AlexWebr: personal prefence?
[03:09] <AlexWebr> minix has a microkernel tho
[03:10] <AlexWebr> which is superior
[03:10] <|Nordom|> AlexWebr: because if you use ubuntu, ur version of ubuntu will have a rediculous name! Thus it is better!
[03:10] <AlexWebr> can i use microkernel with ubuntu?
[03:10] <buar> people, who can help me with instruction for canon ip1800 printer driver?
[03:11] <AlexWebr> how can i use microkernel with ubuntu?
[03:11] <mylastbreath> i have ubuntu 12.04 dual booted with win7, the upgrade to 12.10 failed because it did not have enough hard drive space.  Is there a way to roll it back to preupgrade or install over it and keep the data?
[03:11] <TeamRocket1233c> I G2G for the night, I'll BBT. Bye! -wave-
[03:12] <bug-traq> teamrocket1233c: yeah i know , but if ya find something ya like and can get around with ease and is setup the way ya want it ... it is hard to set it aside and try something ya have to learn all over again
[03:13] <AlexWebr> how can i use microkernel with ubuntu?
[03:13] <bug-traq> how big of a harddrive ya have mylastbreath ????
[03:13] <angelpossum> alex did u get my msg
[03:13] <AlexWebr> angelpossum: no
[03:14] <jesusemelendezm> Nordo wrong page..
[03:14] <jesusemelendezm> we know about Linux
[03:14] <jesusemelendezm> we offer free help.
[03:14] <AlexWebr> how can i use minix kernel with ubuntu
[03:14] <somsip> AlexWebr: you cant
[03:15] <bug-traq> later teamrocket HAGN
[03:15] <AlexWebr> i try apt-get install minix and it doesnt work
[03:15] <mylastbreath> over 100G total, it is an acer netbook
[03:15] <AlexWebr> i also tried dpkg -i minix and it says i am not root
[03:15] <somsip> AlexWebr: read up on what minix is
[03:15] <mylastbreath> looking for stats on it, I am in a live usb right now
[03:15] <angelpossum> someone invited me 2  #ubuntu-offtopicand i have no idea how to get there
[03:16] <bug-traq> type sudu su 1st alexwebr
[03:16] <AlexWebr> i did
[03:16] <AlexWebr> i want microkernel in ubuntu
[03:16] <AlexWebr> so i can self heal
[03:16] <AlexWebr> what is the codes to get minix kernel into ubuntu
[03:17] <angelpossum> alex u can read it now alex its a couple msges up
[03:18] <angelpossum> oops i didnt meen 2 say ur name 2
[03:18] <AlexWebr> i googled minix but i cant find codes to get minix kernel into ubuntu
[03:19] <AlexWebr> do i need openbsd modules
[03:19] <mylastbreath> bug-traq: do I have options beside backing up the data and clean installing ubuntu?
[03:19] <TomM2> I was wondering if you could upgrade from a Ubuntu DVD?
[03:19] <AlexWebr> i am wondering if i can use ssh to hack minix into ubuntu
[03:19] <TomM2> Since do-release-upgrade is failing.
[03:19] <AlexWebr> is it possible?
[03:19] <bug-traq> alexwebr : you have to download the iso for minix and use it on virtualbox or any other virtual system
[03:19] <AlexWebr> you dont understsand
[03:20] <AlexWebr> i want minix kernel in ubuntu
[03:20] <AlexWebr> i tar the source code and it doesnt work
[03:20] <AlexWebr> i do
[03:20] <bug-traq> you would probly have to try to get the repository for it and do a distr-upgrade then if you just want the kernel
[03:21] <AlexWebr> './kern.c' and it says '-bash: ./kern.c: Permission denied
[03:22] <somsip> !who | bug-traq
[03:22] <bug-traq> it is possible to get 2 different distros put together , but it may also break your distro
[03:22] <AlexWebr> how do i fix my error?
[03:22] <bug-traq> sorry all , i was talking to alexwebr
[03:22] <bug-traq> lol
[03:23] <bug-traq>  my bad
[03:23] <AlexWebr> why does nobody help me
[03:23] <somsip> bug-traq: you're trying to be helpful which is cool
[03:23] <Sazhen86> AlexWebr:  You can run a .c file, you have to compile it first
[03:24] <Sazhen86> AlexWebr:  Can't
[03:24] <AlexWebr> Sazhen86: what is compile?
[03:24] <bug-traq> somsip:i just got lost in the typing, i am a 1 finger typer, lol
[03:24] <somsip> bug-traq: use tab for autocompletion of names
[03:24] <somsip> !tab | bug-traq
[03:24] <Sazhen86> AlexWebr:  A compiler turns source code into executable code
[03:25] <AlexWebr> Sazhen86: oh, i know c
[03:25] <bug-traq> somsip:thank you
[03:25] <AlexWebr> i got a+
[03:25] <Sazhen86> AlexWebr:  Getting a Minix kernel into Linux could take a lot of work though
[03:26] <somsip> AlexWebr: and it wouls not be supported here as it is not an official package
[03:26] <AlexWebr> you guys are smart though. what are the codes?
[03:26] <Sazhen86> AlexWebr:   Not me!  I'm happy with the Linux kernel
[03:26] <AlexWebr> somsi that is okay
[03:26] <BinaryCrystal> Any tips on removing lightdm and unity?
[03:27] <bug-traq> AlexWebr: try this link and it explains how to add minix to ubuntu   http://wiki.minix3.org/en/DevelopersGuide/UsingGit
[03:27] <AlexWebr> Sazhen86: you shodnlt be because microkernel is superior
[03:28] <AlexWebr> Sazhen86: linux is complet shit
[03:28] <Sazhen86> AlexWebr: That's a step too far, I fear
[03:28] <BinaryCrystal> AlexWebr: I agree
[03:28] <AlexWebr> Sazhen86: because it is written on top of mach
[03:28] <somsip> bug-traq: that page is about minix development. It has nothing to do with ubuntu from what I can tell
[03:29] <bug-traq> BinaryCrystal: you can disable unity , not sure about the  lightdim
[03:29] <AlexWebr> so how do i run c file?
[03:30] <BinaryCrystal> bug-traq: is there anyway I can completely replace it, or avoid installation in the first place?
[03:30] <AlexWebr> i want to run minix kernel in ubuntu
[03:30] <Sazhen86> AlexWebr: You compile it first
[03:30] <AlexWebr> what does it mean
[03:30] <somsip> AlexWebr: it's time to stop now. You have been told many times that this is not supported in this channel. Please desist
[03:30] <AlexWebr> okay
[03:30] <mylastbreath> BinaryCrystal: are you looking to remove it and use a different windows manager?  What windows manager do you want to use?
[03:30] <bug-traq> somsip: i am looking at it right now and it is telling the commands how to install minix clone repository and stuff
[03:31] <somsip> bug-traq: for minix development, yes. But can we move off this topic?
[03:31] <BinaryCrystal> mylastbreath: more than likely dwm or awesome
[03:32] <bug-traq> somsip:  thank you , because alexwebr was looking anyway
[03:32] <somsip> BinaryCrystal: you can installed awesome to work with gnome for a tryout
[03:32] <AlexWebr> somsip: but ubuntu is about choice
[03:32] <somsip> AlexWebr: and this channel is about support for official packages
[03:32] <BinaryCrystal> somsip: arent' the kernel build tools official packages?
[03:33] <AlexWebr> somsip: minix is very official
[03:33] <somsip> BinaryCrystal: he is asking about integrating a minix kernel in ubuntu, which is offtopic
[03:33] <AlexWebr> somsip: it has been around longer than linux in fact
[03:33] <somsip> AlexWebr: offical *ubuntu*packages. Stop it now. I'm being polite. Can you respect the purposes of this channel please?
[03:34] <bug-traq> everyone , have a great night  , time for bed to get up for work in 6 hrs
[03:34] <AlexWebr> okay somsip i am sorry
[03:34] <mylastbreath> BinaryCrystal: not sure about preventing Unity from installing at all.  might be able to change the sources for where it pulls the repos from.
[03:34] <bug-traq> <------- pooooooooooooooooooof
[03:35] <AlexWebr> i have another question
[03:35] <AlexWebr> an ubuntu pros here
[03:35] <BinaryCrystal> mylastbreath: wouldn't that mean you have to modify the install media to avoid the repos?
[03:35] <kvothetech_> AlexWebr: just asx
[03:35] <somsip> BinaryCrystal: if you want to avoid the standard light-dm/unity thingy, it might be easier to do a minimal install, then install awesome and a login manager over that. I did that with slim and awesome. Works fine and is cleaner than trying to remove standard packages
[03:36] <somsip> AlexWebr: thank you
[03:37] <BinaryCrystal> somsip: hmm that's what I thought I could do but doesn't the minimal install include the GUI components
[03:37] <AlexWebr> how do i write kernel module
[03:37] <AlexWebr> i want to help linux
[03:37] <mylastbreath> BinaryCrystal: yes, it would, and then if you felt so inclined to, roll your own customized version.  somsip's suggestion is cleaner though.
[03:37] <seednode> AlexWebr: What programming languages do you know?
[03:37] <Sazhen86> AlexWebr:   http://www.tldp.org/LDP/lkmpg/2.6/html/lkmpg.html
[03:37] <kvothetech_> AlexWebr: do you know any programming preferably c?
[03:38] <AlexWebr> i took c in school
[03:38] <AlexWebr> i know about object, class, bytecode
[03:38] <AlexWebr> i got a+
[03:38] <somsip> AlexWebr: I somehow doubt this is a genuine request from you after your talk about minix, but here: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/get-involved
[03:39] <AlexWebr> somsip: i am sorry i am new to opensource
[03:39] <BinaryCrystal> Thanks guys :)
[03:39] <BinaryCrystal> This also relates to AlexWebr s question, can I program modules in other languages other thatn C?
[03:39] <somsip> AlexWebr: And here for kernel http://kernel.org/
[03:39] <AlexWebr> somsip: it is just some ugly website
[03:39] <Sazhen86> AlexWebr:  Objects and classes are a C++, Java etc. concept, not C and bytecode is a c# or Java concept, again not C
[03:40] <somsip> AlexWebr: try the FAQ. If you show this level of disdain and lack of initiative, maybe kernel maintenance is not for you
[03:40] <AlexWebr> somsip: i can do it! i want to learn
[03:40] <rtg62a> hello, how do I re-install apt? My console tells me 'apt: command not found'
[03:40] <AlexWebr> somsip: disdain is what
[03:41] <mylastbreath> yes, Ubuntu has gcc, and it can handle quite a bit.
[03:41] <AlexWebr> i will google it
[03:41] <kvothetech_> rtg62a: try apt-get
[03:41] <AlexWebr> somsip: my english is not so good
[03:41] <AlexWebr> somsip: i googled disdain
[03:41] <kvothetech_> somsip: i think he's just trolling=
[03:41] <AlexWebr> somsip: i don't mean to show you disrespect
[03:41] <AlexWebr> somsip: if that is what you mean
[03:42] <AlexWebr> somsip: i am sorry
[03:42] <somsip> kvothetech_: I believe so too. I am being polite, but I'll just ignore him if he gets too annoying
[03:42] <AlexWebr> i am sorry
[03:43] <BinaryCrystal> Should I start out with ubuntu or a different distribution if I want to make a home workstation, mainly for software dev, and some minor web/graphics?
[03:44] <AlexWebr> try minix binrarycrystal
[03:44] <somsip> BinaryCrystal: the official line you'll get in a ubuntu channel is to use ubuntu.
[03:44] <somsip> BinaryCrystal: I use it for web dev. I like the idea of Arch, but found it too flakey
[03:44] <BinaryCrystal> somsip: but I'm asking for an experienced opinion
[03:44] <kvothetech_> BinaryCrystal: up to you what distro you use theoretically all of them can do exactly the same thing
[03:44] <kvothetech_> just some may require more effort to get how you want it
[03:44] <somsip> BinaryCrystal: then try the factoids for !best and !poll
[03:45] <AlexWebr> 1best
[03:45] <AlexWebr> woops
[03:45] <BinaryCrystal> !best
[03:45] <AlexWebr> !best
[03:45] <AlexWebr> !poll
[03:46] <BinaryCrystal> ubottu: okay, i'm ok with distros, but IRC is a bit meh to me (not used to it)
[03:46] <AlexWebr> !poll
[03:46] <AlexWebr> !best
[03:46] <kvothetech_> AlexWebr: stop fucking spamming the bot
[03:47] <somsip> AlexWebr: it does not show the same response too quickly to stop people from doing what you are doing.
[03:47] <AlexWebr> i didn't get to try !best yet
[03:47] <kvothetech_> it said it twice
[03:47] <somsip> AlexWebr: it's the same.
[03:47] <IdleOne> !language | kvothetech_
[03:47] <AlexWebr> oh i didn't know
[03:49] <zecken-droide> moin moin
[03:49] <AlexWebr> for my operating systems course i need to write a kernel so i thought i could put minix into ubuntu
[03:49] <AlexWebr> or use kernel module
[03:49] <BinaryCrystal> AlexWebr: have you tried HURD?
[03:49] <AlexWebr> what is hurd?
[03:49] <somsip> AlexWebr: it's offtopic
[03:50] <AlexWebr> okay somsip
[03:50] <somsip> AlexWebr: feel free to talk stuff like this in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:50] <linuxnero> /clearall
[03:50] <BinaryCrystal> AlexWebr: http://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/ an alternative free kernel
[03:50] <AlexWebr> freeer than linux, jajaja
[03:50] <AlexWebr> funny
[03:51] <BinaryCrystal> ja
[03:52] <TomM2> I get this error every time I try to run "Update Manager"
[03:52] <TomM2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1398333/
[03:53] <kvothetech_> TomM2: do you have pygtk installed
[03:54] <TomM2> Let me check.
[03:54] <somsip> TomM2: and what version of ubuntu?
[03:54] <TomM2> Someguy123, Precise.
[03:55] <kvothetech_> TomM2: if you do is it wherever line 26 is looking for it
[03:55] <Someguy123> TomM2, =_=
[03:55] <Someguy123> tabfail much
[03:55] <AlexWebr> how do I write kernel module
[03:55] <TomM2> Oh.
[03:55] <TomM2> When I tried to see if it was installed.
[03:55] <TomM2> It was not installed.
[03:55] <TomM2> And I tried to install it and this happened, E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'python-minimal'.Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2)
[03:56] <kvothetech_> AlexWebr: www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[03:56] <somsip> TomM2: did you upgrade from an old version of ubuntu or fresh install?
[03:56] <AlexWebr> kvothetech_: thank you kvothetech_
[03:56] <TomM2> I upgraded.
[03:56] <AlexWebr> kvothetech_: i will read it and report back
[03:57] <kvothetech_> AlexWebr: don't bother
[03:57] <TomM2> I normally run "do-release-upgrade" but that is failing currently.
[03:57] <somsip> TomM2: yeah - I see a lot of results with that error relating to upgrades. You might need to read through some and get direty with dpkg
[03:58] <somsip> *dirty
[03:58] <TomM2> I don't have time to play with dpkg.
[03:59] <somsip> TomM2: there are solutions out there, but all I'd be doing is throwing ideas from google searches at you.
[03:59] <AlexWebr> How Do I Write A Kernel Module?
[03:59] <TomM2> I have already googled this and it returns nothing relevant to my question.
[03:59] <somsip> TomM2: eg: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-defaults/+bug/990740
[04:00] <TomM2> Already tried everything there.
[04:00] <TomM2> Nothing is working.
[04:00] <AlexWebr> i want to make a character device that says lol all the time when i read it, how do i do it?
[04:00] <AlexWebr> what are the codes?
[04:00] <IdleOne> AlexWebr: This channel is for Ubuntu support, not general linux questions. You can try ##linux
[04:00] <somsip> IdleOne: thank you
[04:00] <TomM2> All python-minimal does is throw these errors at me, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1398344/
[04:01] <AlexWebr> IdleOne: thank-you IdleOne
[04:01] <AlexWebr> I am writing the module for Ubuntu. Can you give me the codes then?
[04:01] <somsip> TomM2: that still looks like a broken upgrade problem to me, but only because it was similar to something I had before and I did have to fiddle with dpkg caches for a while to get it working. I can offer you no easy solution. sorry
[04:01] <AlexWebr> I am sorry if my english is hard to read
[04:02] <RickZilla> I'm using a persistent USB install, if I go ahead and install it to my HD, will it keep all my changes so far? Or do I have to start all over again?
[04:02] <IdleOne> AlexWebr: Your English is fine, what is hard to understand is why you insist on asking questions that have nothing to do with Ubuntu and when you do get it, you lie. Please stop wasting our time.
[04:03] <ejo> TomM2: would you consider just saving any important files then doing a clean install of your chosen Ubuntu version?
[04:03] <ejo> there are so many places where clean installs save headaches
[04:03] <AlexWebr> Does a less rude person can help me?
[04:04] <IdleOne> AlexWebr: Nobody is going to be more helpful than me in your case. Please use ##linux for general linux support
[04:04] <TomM2> Hmmm.
[04:04] <kvothetech_> AlexWebr: read the link i gave you then follow the directions then ask your question in a relevant area and you will get a better answer
[04:04] <k1lumin4t1> hey
[04:04] <AlexWebr> IdleOne: you are not helpful to me
[04:04] <TomM2> I'll probably have to do a fresh install.
[04:04] <AlexWebr> kvothetech_: i read some of it it was hard to follow
[04:06] <k1lumin4t1> I'm having issues with network printing on Ubuntu 12.04. I can print through localhost without any problems to a printer, but cannot do it trough network share using neither the process of adding the remote printer on the client using the web interface nor using the client.conf file to specify the ServerName directive
[04:06] <k1lumin4t1> It asks me for an authentication thing which never asked me before
[04:08] <k1lumin4t1> any help?
[04:08] <AlexWebr> not here k1lumin4t1
[04:09] <k1lumin4t1> AlexWebr, where then?
[04:09] <AlexWebr> k1lumin4t1: try ##linux
[04:11] <techlobyte1> how do I view users logged in, in xchat
[04:11] <rtg62a> When I try to start X, I get this error: 'Fatal Server Error, no screens found.' how can I fix that?
[04:11] <kvothetech_> techlobyte1: ? in xchat uh are you connected through a bnc?
[04:12] <techlobyte1> what's a bnc?
[04:12] <techlobyte1> xchat-gnome
[04:12] <techlobyte1> screwing with my head
[04:13] <BinaryCrystal> http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3rz9i2/
[04:13] <ripper> bnc brittish naval connector
[04:14] <techlobyte1> bnc BiNary Crystal
[04:14] <Sazhen86> techlobyte1: It's short for a bouncer
[04:15] <techlobyte1> I dream of having a bouncer, but not that I know of
[04:15] <techlobyte1> he could go to the bar with me and throw out the bartender
[04:15] <IdleOne> !ot
[04:18] <ripper> man im board
[04:18] <ripper> need something to do
[04:20] <robertzaccour> My new laptop's network and wireless cards currently don't work in Linux. What are the odds of them soon being compatible?
[04:28] <TaJMoX> I installed Windows on a second partition, now I can't get back into Linux. What's the best way to install a boot loader in that situation?
[04:29] <TaJMoX> Link would work thanks
[04:30] <somsip> TaJMoX: you may need a live CD and boot-repair https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[04:30] <jerry_l1> which ver of windows?
[04:30] <TaJMoX> somsip Thanks that looks perfect
[04:30] <TaJMoX> jerry_l1 Windows 8
[04:31] <somsip> TaJMoX: ah - you may need to find some up to date info regarding win8. I have no idea if it does somethign unexpected by boot-repair
[04:32] <robertzaccour> how do you force install 32 bit packages?
[04:32] <jerry_l1> can you look up dual boot Vista a ubuntu.
[04:32] <jerry_l1> you said win8 and ubuntu?
[04:32] <dr_willis> robertzaccour: what packages?
[04:34] <robertzaccour> dr_willis: my network and wireless cards aren't compatible with ubuntu, so I decided to download ndisgtk .deb file and my wireless driver from toshiba. my plan was to install ndisgtk and use it to install my windows driver. problem is it says wrong architechture. I forgot how to force install 32 bit packages.
[04:35] <BlackWeb> I'm running Ubuntu Server 12.04, Which I was wondering if its possible to have my server set up to stream movies from the Hard Drive Over WAN? Right now I have it set to SSH, & VSFTP into it, & Heard you can do something similar with NFS but Loooking into all options?
[04:36] <dr_willis> i would think there are 64bit ndisgtk packages. or course  if the chipsets are too new for 12.10 to work id bet they are too new for ndisgtk also.  testing with 13.04 may be a good idea to see if it works in there.
[04:36] <dr_willis> ive rarely seen a wired nic not work
[04:37] <robertzaccour> dr_willis: already tried the latest 13.04 build, no dice.
[04:37] <evilmoo> robertzaccour: what does 'lspci|grep Ethernet' say?
[04:38] <robertzaccour> evilmoo: in windows now
[04:38] <evilmoo> ah
[04:38] <Ben64> how do i make isc-dhcp-server start on boot
[04:38] <dr_willis> what kind of card does windows say it is? ;)
[04:39] <robertzaccour> just found a 64 bit .deb of ndisgtk I'll try that
[04:39] <robertzaccour> glad I found it
[04:39] <dr_willis> its possible one of the current driver/modules would woek with it.. but its not detecting the right chipet to load the module
[04:40] <evilmoo> robertzaccour: under device manager, go to network devices, find the card, pick the 'details' tab, and pick 'Hardware Ids'. what does the first line say?
[04:40] <robertzaccour> evilmoo: my wireless card is a Realtek RT8723AE
[04:40] <nardev> is there a way to listen serial port at 9600 bits per second at ttyACM0
[04:40] <nardev> is there a way to listen serial port at 9600 bits per second at ttyACM0
[04:41] <robertzaccour> gonna test my luck here with ndisgtk thanks later yall
[04:41] <evilmoo> robertzaccour: good luck
[04:41] <dr_willis> listen?  try a serial terminal program line  minicom?
[04:41] <k1lumin4t1> I'm having issues with network printing on Ubuntu 12.04. I can print through localhost without any problems to a printer, but cannot do it trough network share using neither the process of adding the remote printer on the client using the web interface nor using the client.conf file to specify the ServerName directive
[04:41] <robertzaccour> thanks
[04:41] <k1lumin4t1> It asks me for an authentication thing which never asked me before
[04:41] <robertzaccour> prefer gui for the most part except for really short simple stuff like install and stuff
[04:42] <NewUbuntuUser> hello
[04:42] <nardev> k1lumin4t1, is it a network printer?
[04:43] <k1lumin4t1> nardev, nope, a local printer through usb
[04:43] <dr_willis> or a shared printer on the ubntu box?
[04:43] <DBoyz> Hi. How do i change DNS settings on 12.10
[04:43] <nardev> :( ok k1lumin4t1
[04:43] <k1lumin4t1> dr_willis,  a local printer through usb shared via cups
[04:43] <dr_willis> so you got a windows box trying to print to a samba shared printer on a linux box
[04:43] <NewUbuntuUser> does anyone have any familiarity with installing wine?  I went through the software center, but the application doesn't show up
[04:43] <NewUbuntuUser> only to configure it, remove it, and winetricks
[04:43] <nardev> DBoyz, should be in /etc/resolv.conf
[04:44] <Ben64> NewUbuntuUser: you can't really run wine by itself, you need to run an exe with it
[04:44] <k1lumin4t1> dr_willis, not at all, a ubuntu 10 box printing to a ubuntu 12.04 box
[04:44] <dr_willis> NewUbuntuUser:  wind dosent have an icon like other apps
[04:44] <g00053> maybe this isn't the right place to ask , but when I use soundconverter to convert an mp4 to mp3 the audio comes out gross sounding . can someone recommend a better way ?
[04:44] <subterfuge1750> I'm stumped -- Using ubuntu 12.04 but need a little help at the command line ---- I want to search a directory and all sub directories for any and all audio/video/image files and then have it make a symbiotic link in a separate directory for each file found using the files original name -- can anyone help me with the syntax of this, Thanks
[04:44] <Ben64> g00053: mencoder + lame
[04:44] <NewUbuntuUser> right, I am trying to run a windows visual studio 2010 express
[04:44] <dr_willis> k1lumin4t1:   hmm. then you dont need samba at all . ;) you should be able to use the cups web interface and configure both machines
[04:45] <DBoyz> nardev: but it says "DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN"
[04:45] <NewUbuntuUser> archive manager won't let it run, so I installed wine
[04:45] <nardev> DBoyz, try...
[04:45] <g00053> Ben64, Lame is saying it's an unsupported audio format
[04:45] <NewUbuntuUser> now all the stuff I look up says to run it through wine
[04:45] <nardev> DBoyz, linux would not be what it is if it was so stupid and strict as windows :D
[04:45] <Ben64> g00053: thats why mencoder first, to rip the audio out of the mp4
[04:45] <NewUbuntuUser> but apparently I can't do that right
[04:45] <k1lumin4t1> dr_willis, where did I say I was using samba?
[04:45] <dr_willis> NewUbuntuUser:  winw 101:   use     wine /path/to/whatever.exe   to run a windows binary
[04:45] <DBoyz> what should i try?
[04:46] <g00053> Ben64, thanks
[04:46] <DBoyz> i mean, what to do?
[04:46] <dr_willis> cups can 'share' via samba. or it can  work as a print 'server'
[04:46] <NewUbuntuUser> ok, how do I look up the path?  I tried navigating to the downlaods folder with cd and ls -a  and nothing was popping up
[04:46] <dr_willis> thats not quite the same as 'shareing'   .
[04:47] <k1lumin4t1> dr_willis, yes, but I'm not using it with samba
[04:47] <Ben64> dr_willis: do you know anything about upstart?
[04:47] <dr_willis> k1lumin4t1:   you should be able to use the cups web interface on the client and it shoudl be abel to scan and see the cups server
[04:47] <dr_willis> Ben64:  the 'upstart cookbook' is the best docs ive seen on upstart
[04:48] <k1lumin4t1> dr_willis, it sees it, but can't print to it
[04:48] <Ben64> dr_willis: yeah i saw that, it's quite a lengthy document though
[04:48] <k1lumin4t1> dr_willis, It asks me for an authentication thing which never asked me before
[04:48] <dr_willis> k1lumin4t1:  check the cups server settings. there may be some security  to resctict configuration to localhost.
[04:49] <NewUbuntuUser> never mind I may just have got it
[04:49] <dr_willis> the cups logs may give some info also
[04:50] <dr_willis> Ben64:  all i know on upstart came from that doc. ;)
[04:50] <pORTER_> Hi
[04:50] <dr_willis> and i only skimmed it
[04:50] <pORTER_> How can i install ubuntu on another partition that is already made?
[04:50] <Ben64> dr_willis: I just can't figure out how to make isc-dhcp-server start on boot instead of isc-dhcp-server6, and 6 uses a different type of config or something
[04:51] <pORTER_> How can i install ubuntu on another partition that is already made?
[04:51] <MestreLion> guys, I have an ATI HD 7770 card, Asus M4A89GTD motherboard, and using buntu 12.04 with proprietary Catalyst 12.6 (from AMD site). Any hints or troubleshoot directions to make sound via HDMI work?
[04:51] <pORTER_> How can i install ubuntu on another partition that is already made?
[04:51] <Sixil> Anyone here know Bash? :<
[04:52] <pORTER_> Batch?
[04:52] <MestreLion> pORTER_: asking the same question 3 times in 10 secs won't help
[04:52] <dr_willis> pORTER_:  tell the installer to use it. and reformat it to ext/3/4
[04:52] <MestreLion> Sixil: most of us do, also the people at #bash are experts
[04:52] <NewUbuntuUser> ok so now I am getting a wine error
[04:52] <NewUbuntuUser> the web platform installer could not start
[04:52] <dr_willis> !appdb | NewUbuntuUser
[04:53] <pORTER_> Thanks
[04:53] <Sixil> MestreLion: I agree, however, #bash is frankly quite dead and I'm not getting anywhere with resolving an issue which no doubt is staring me in the face!
[04:53] <NewUbuntuUser> thanks
[04:54] <MestreLion> #bash dead? Its one of the most active channels I've ever seen.. most questions are answered in less than a minute. But feel free to ask here too
[04:54] <g00053> Ben64, could you give me an example of the command I would pass to mencoder , this is one of the longest manpages i've seen
[04:54] <kieppie2> hi guys. I'm hoping someone can help me out with this desktop. is/was my "old" lounge PC - dual-core 64-bit current ubuntu unity, 4 GB RAM & 8 GB swap, ATI Radeon 4350 HD (HDMI out). all-in-all it's a fairly decent machine by all accounts, but overall performance is *simply shocking*!
[04:55] <Sixil> I try to run this: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/e3de27d3/ but when I run it and agree to deleting the directory contents, it comes back with: rm: cannot remove `/home/sixil/Dustbin/*': No such file or directory
[04:55] <MestreLion> Has anyone made sound work via HDMI when using a dedicated ATI video card?
[04:55] <subterfuge1750> I'm stumped -- I want to search a directory and all sub directories for any and all audio/video/image files and then have it make a symbiotic link in a separate directory for each file found using the files original name -- can anyone help me with the syntax of this, Thanks
[04:56] <dr_willis> Sixil:  you got * quoted so deeply the shell is not parseing it..  rm is seeing the actual '*' character
[04:56] <dr_willis> i was going to guess quoteing.. befor you even stated the issue as a joke.  ;P
[04:56] <dr_willis> Sixil:  using ' when you need "  perhaps
[04:56] <MestreLion> Sixil: did you made this script, or copied from somewhere else?
[04:57] <Sixil> I made it.
[04:57] <somsip> subterfuge1750: dump the files to a tmp file then iterate through it and create the links in a bash script
[04:57] <MestreLion> Sixil: move the /* out of "$all"
[04:58] <Sixil> I just want to delete the contents of the folder, not delete the folder completly.
[04:58] <subterfuge1750> somsip: Thanks, was kind of going that way but have a bit of a time doing it.  I have kind of jumped in to the deep end (at lest deep for me)
[04:59] <jerry_l1> whats GNU bash? is it different than bash?
[04:59] <MestreLion> Sixil: 11: all="/home/$USER/Dustbin"  20 Y) cd "$dustbindir" && rm -rf  "$all"/*;;
[04:59] <somsip> subterfuge1750: find . -name *.mp3 -name *.avi (...etc) > tmpfile. But you will have to find a way to get find to output the full pathname
[05:00] <dr_willis> jerry_l1:  gnu vs 'unix'  ;) the gnu guys rewrote most of the unix commands... years back
[05:00] <somsip> subterfuge1750: acutally. maybe that's not ideal. Sorry - wanted to help but suddenly got a bit busy
[05:00] <DNAtsol> Hi all. excuse my interruption - new to the whole irc thing - trying to recover my touchpad function after upgrading from 12.04 to 12.10
[05:00] <Froodle> Problem: the Flash plugin (11.2 r202) keeps crashing Firefox (17.0 and several earlier) when in full screen.  Happens after roughly 5 minutes of playing Youtube videos.  12.04.  Already removed flashplugin-installer and installed adobe-flashplugin.
[05:01] <MestreLion> Sixil: you can also make "$all" an array instead of a string, this way: all=( "$HOME/Dustbin"/* ), and then you can expand it as "${all[@]}"
[05:01] <subterfuge1750> somsip: no worries, thanks anyway
[05:01] <somsip> subterfuge1750: this might help but you'll have to play with the wildcards http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/46047/create-symbolic-links-with-wildcards
[05:02] <subterfuge1750> somsip: thanks
[05:02] <doc|home> is there an official php 5.4 repo or install guide. I can only find this: http://www.barryodonovan.com/index.php/2012/05/22/ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin-and-php-5-4-again
[05:03] <somsip> doc|home: no - stuck on 5.3 for now unless you go to a PPA.
[05:03] <doc|home> somsip: bah, ok, thank you
[05:03] <kieppie> hi guys. I'm hoping someone can help me out with this desktop. is/was my "old" lounge PC - dual-core 64-bit current ubuntu unity, 4 GB RAM & 8 GB swap, ATI Radeon 4350 HD (HDMI out). all-in-all it's a fairly decent machine by all accounts, but overall performance is *simply shocking*!
[05:04] <subterfuge1750> Anyone else smooth with bash commands and have a second to help?
[05:04] <doc|home> somsip: can you recommend anyone safe? I don't want to use some random repo
[05:04] <dr_willis> kieppie:  some actual details would help...
[05:04] <Sixil> MestreLion: Well, you see it's just deleting the folder and everything inside it. I just want it to delete the contents of Dustbin, but leave the folder intact.
[05:04] <jerry_l1>  dr_willis: if i am trying to learn the terminal on ubuntu does this affect stuff?
[05:04] <dr_willis> whats shocking about it. ;)
[05:04] <DNAtsol> ***Help needed***: upgraded to 12.10 on a system76 lemur machine and now my touchpad does not respond. I'm thinking a driver needs updating or a switch needs setting but not sure where to look.
[05:04] <MestreLion> Sixil: lines 37-41 uses perhaps *all* of thw worst bash practices...
[05:04] <dr_willis> jerry_l1:  bash should be bash.. on unix, or linux, or bsd...
[05:05] <DBoyz> Can anyone tell me how do i change my DNS settings on 12.10? should i edit /etc/resolve.conf ?
[05:05] <Sixil> MestreLion: Only been Bashing for 2 days, haha.
[05:05] <DBoyz> how do i edit that .conf file by the way?
[05:05] <MestreLion> Sixil: *never* try to parse ls
[05:05] <dr_willis> jerry_l1:  sort of a core idea behind 'posix'
[05:05] <dr_willis> DBoyz:  i just use the netwoek manager gui tool
[05:06] <kieppie> hi dr_willis: general performance is pretty poor. could be GPU-related. this machine is/was my dedicated XBMC host (was headless); now installed unity desktop to be able to play simple games, such as the Humble Bundle games
[05:06] <MestreLion> Sixil: if you want to loop all files in a given dir, use an array:  myfiles=( /some/dir/* ) ; for file in "${myfiles[@]}"; do....
[05:06] <kieppie> it's very lacking for a very capable machine - in some cases worse than my mobile or netbook
[05:06] <jerry_l1> thanks!!
[05:06] <dr_willis> kieppie:  you are using the fglrx drivers?
[05:06] <somsip> doc|home: I don't use PPAs for PHP as I have production machines on 5.3, so I stay the same
[05:06] <jerry_l1>  dr_willis: thanks.
[05:07] <DBoyz> dr_willis: how do you use it? i adding <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> in the GUI tool but my network information did not change apparently
[05:07] <DBoyz> i tried adding*
[05:07] <doc|home> somsip: ok, thanks
[05:07] <Sixil> MestreLion: I mean, it works, without a problem, the only issue is, it deletes everything. Would putting an array up keep the folder?
[05:07] <MestreLion> Sixil: also, don't use echo prior to read... there is already read -p "some prompt or question goes here"
[05:08] <kieppie> kieppie: I am. there was issue with the "official" drivers provided by ATI (needed to enable 3D hardware-accelleration), so had to make use of a backported
[05:08] <kieppie>  "hack"
[05:08] <snoop> hi... it is posible tu virtualize ubuntu on a mac ??
[05:08] <kieppie> via PPA
[05:08] <dr_willis> DBoyz:  theres some setting to set static ip. or everything static. i just set them all.. or i set my routers dns servers to those  instaed of letting it get them from m y isp.. it then gives them to the rest of the lan
[05:08] <kieppie> I suspect that could be part of the problem
[05:08] <kieppie> snoop: yes - VirtualBox or QEMU
[05:09] <DBoyz> ah
[05:09] <DBoyz> i got you
[05:09] <MestreLion> Sixil: rm -rf  "/some/dir"/* will *not* delete the dir, I promise you
[05:09] <dr_willis> or just delete the dir.. then remake it... big deal... ;P
[05:10] <snoop> i try virtualbox with the new version of ubuntu but get stuck the desktop doesnt do anything :S
[05:11] <aboudreault> I've migrated a virtual machine ....... how can I disable LDAP ssh. (I can't login in the machine right now)
[05:11] <Sixil> MestreLion: Well, I put the array in, yet, I get this back: Aborting due to unexpected eof. Fix any mentioned problems and try again.
[05:12] <kieppie> snoop: try an older version of ubuntu - 12.04 or 12.04. but 1st try to get the 3d video drivers working right. Unity uses quite a lot of compositing, so if you don't have 3D hardware accelleration working right, it's a dog to use. also, check that your are able to use from terminal OK
[05:12] <MestreLion> Sixil: are you still using cat and ls > somefile ?
[05:12] <Sixil> Yes. I only changed the all= part
[05:12] <MestreLion> Sixil: also, why are you looping all files just to confirm with user for delete? there is rm -i for that
[05:13] <snoop> ok thanks a lot keep the good work (y)
[05:13] <Sixil> MestreLion: My task explicitly wants that.
[05:13] <dr_willis> Sixil:  i bet spaces in file names will mess you up also
[05:13] <MestreLion> Sixil: rm -i already asks user for confirmation for every file
[05:14] <snoop> kieppie: tnxs for the help
[05:14] <MestreLion> Sixil: do NOT use "cd /some/dir; ls > tempfile; for file in $(cat tempfile)", this is atrocious. You can replace all of this for a single:  for file in "/some/dir"/*
[05:14] <kieppie> snoop: np. dr_willis: if there's a good FLOSS driver for this ATI Radeon that'll give me decent 3D hardware-accelleration, I'd be happy to give that a try. got pointers, please?
[05:15] <dr_willis> kieppie:  fgrlx would work best.. if it works. i dont use ati much these days
[05:16] <kieppie> dr_willis: I use it because it's the space card with HDMI out I've got atm. don't wanna blow another wad of $$$ because of a crappy driver
[05:16] <MestreLion> Sixil: never, never, NEVER  use the output of ls to do ANY file processing. ls output is meant for humans, NOT to be parsed by scripts. for most commands you can simply use the path directly in the command, as in "/some/path"/*
[05:17] <Sixil> Okay.
[05:17] <kieppie> I've not really had *much* issues in the past, but since my upgrade to 12.10, things have gone horribly wring GPU-driver wise
[05:17] <dr_willis> dont parst 'echo *' output eiher. ;)
[05:20] <dr_willis> kieppie:  try reinstalling the fglrx driver perhaps. it may be using the open sourc3ed driver
[05:21] <MestreLion> Sixil: last but not least, some hints: 1 - endent your code, use 4 spaces (or a TAB) when inside an if or for block. makes reading code a LOT easier. 2 - build your vars one from another, to avoid inconsistencies: dust="Dustbin"; dustbindir="$HOME/$dust"; manifest="$dustbindir/.location", etc etc
[05:22] <kieppie> it's definately using the non-FLOSS one atm. in the past I've had better results from those, but this "backported" version might be iffy. I'm thinking I might purge the binary fglrx ones & load the FLOSS ones, but this page does not go into a lot of detail installing the FLOSS one with 3D HA - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[05:23] <MestreLion> Sixil: notice that I've used $HOME instead of "/home/$USER".  Remember the user's home is not necessarily at "/home". Also, do not use trailing slashes when assigning dirs to a var. Makes concatenating paths produce things like "/some//dir//"
[05:24] <phix> Sixil: use something like os.path.join(parentDir, "fileOrDirectoryName")
[05:24] <phix> Sixil: oh and use python :P
[05:24] <MestreLion> Guys, any directions on how to enable HDMI sound output when using an AMD video card? I'm already using Catalyst 12.6
[05:24] <dr_willis> perl!, comal, lisp! tcl!  ;)
[05:24] <SolarisBoy> ruby
[05:25] <phix> ruby :\
[05:25] <dr_willis> i rock at 'rexx'
[05:25] <dr_willis> or at least used to.....
[05:25] <SolarisBoy> ;>
[05:25] <MestreLion> phix: actually, for his use case, he does not any script at all. Everything his script does is the same as rm -ir /some/dir/*
[05:25] <phix> Apparantly people who program in ruby have personallity clashes with alot of people
[05:25] <SolarisBoy> heh...
[05:25] <phix> MestreLion: oh, then why doesn't he just use rm?
[05:26] <MestreLion> phix: ask him, I have no idea. Apperantely he wants -i to be -a (for "ask", I suppose
[05:26] <SolarisBoy> oy?
[05:27] <MestreLion> phix: and he made a 56-line script that apparently does the same as rm -r  with or without -i
[05:30] <phix> Sixil: why Sixil why?>
[05:30] <g00053> anyone know of any methods to write mp3 meta data via bash ?
[05:30] <phix> hai SolarisBoy, are you in the right channel?
[05:30] <phix> g00053: yes
[05:30] <SolarisBoy> i thought i was
[05:30] <phix> apt-cache search mp3 id tag
[05:31] <g00053> many thanks
[05:31] <phix> id3tool - Command line editor for id3 tags
[05:31] <phix> id3v2 - A command line id3v2 tag editor
[05:31] <g00053> my youtube script is coming along nicely :D
[05:31] <phix> g00053: :D
[05:31] <phix> there are also python and perl libraries to do it too
[05:32] <phix> if you want to make a proper script :P
[05:32] <nuf0xx> o/
[05:32] <somsip> g00053: http://phoxis.org/2011/08/24/bash-script-reading-id3v1-tags/
[05:32] <nuf0xx> i would like the cdrom (/dev/sr0) to mount @ /mnt/cdrom or similar ... not in gvfs
[05:32] <nuf0xx> any help?
[05:32] <somsip> g00053: oh....*write*. Sorry, misread
[05:33] <almoxarife> so i got an instance of lxde via vnc running, if i start something that would output sound, should the host at least squak sound?
[05:33] <g00053> all good thanks.
[05:34] <phix> nuf0xx: edit /etc/fstab
[05:34] <phix> sudo nano /etc/fstab
[05:34] <somsip> g00053: http://eyed3.nicfit.net/ also
[05:35] <phix> /dev/scd0                                       /media/cdrom0           udf,iso9660     user,noauto                             0       0
[05:35] <phix> change /media to /mnt if you want to
[05:35] <phix> nuf0xx: and cd0 to sr0 if  you require
[05:38] <nuf0xx> phix: i did that and still no joy
[05:39] <nuf0xx> i take that back... didn't use the udf option
[05:44] <almoxarife> an instance of lxde-buntu-arm-omap4 is running on a rooted-kindle, i am connected via vnc to it, starting something that would output sound, should the host at least squak sound? i dont have anything i vnc into to experiment other than the lxde
[05:49] <RickZilla> I've got 12.10 as a persistent Live USB, if I install to HD will it keep the changes I've made, or will it start over as a fresh install?
[05:50] <dr_willis> RickZilla:  fresh install
[05:53] <almoxarife> dr_willis: what it the magic !xxx for the package containing 'lsusb/pci'??
[05:55] <dr_willis> !find lsusb
[05:55] <dr_willis> !find lspci
[05:56] <kieppie> references online indicate I need to set a KMS value as documented @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/KernelModeSetting - but the page no longer exists
[05:56] <kieppie> !KMS
[05:57] <kieppie> ?KMS
[05:58] <dr_willis> !dkms
[05:58] <dr_willis> never heard of kms.
[05:59] <dr_willis> dkms may have replaced it
[05:59] <dr_willis> or may just have a similer name
[06:01] <g00053> can someone tell me how to return the position of a character "x" in string "y" in bash ?
[06:03] <phunyguy_t430s> OK, with this question it is about software not included in the repos, but it has to do with a Ubuntu feature.  I am trying to test out Davmail, and it won't show up in the notification area even though it is running.  I remember reading a while back about some icons being hidden, or all hidden with some whitelisted.  Is there still any truth to this?
[06:04] <dr_willis> phunyguy_t430s:  yes.
[06:05] <phunyguy_t430s> I also get a popup about it running on the left side of the screen near the top of the unity launcher
[06:05] <dr_willis> webupd8 or omgubuntu or askubuntu.com should have info on whitelisting apps
[06:07] <kieppie> dr_willis: purged the old fglrx drivers & using the floss ones. performance pretty poor - glxgear pretty jittery
[06:07] <phunyguy_t430s> any way to find out what this icon would be named as in order to white list it?
[06:08] <somsip> g00053: it seems you would be better trying in #bash
[06:09] <kakkin> alguien ahí?
[06:11] <dkannan> what is the difference between the package libreadline-dev and libreadline-gplv2-dev ?
[06:11] <phunyguy_t430s> There it is!
[06:12] <kakkin> zorry all, no speakin very good english
[06:13] <almoxarife> kakkin: i know, gpl?
[06:13] <kakkin> no speakin very good inglish, zorry, spanish yes
[06:15] <gnomefreak> karakedi: you can try in #ubuntu-es  that is the spankish help channel
[06:15] <Tex_Nick> !es | kakkin
[06:15] <gnomefreak> damn
[06:15] <etfb> Does anyone have any tips for reactiving menus in LibreOffice in Ubuntu 12.10 (with Unity)?  Keyboard shortcuts to open menus (Alt+F for File, etc) don't work.
[06:16] <etfb> Googling for help gives ideas that only work for 12.04, so far.
[06:23] <yhusha> hmm the up and down arrow keys stopped working for up and down scrolling: the up and down arrow keys are what control audio volume when combined with "Fn"  and that still works thogh
[06:27] <jakebo> hello, everyone
[06:27] <yhusha> yea...
[06:28] <yhusha> so is this just hobby to everybody in here or does ubuntu cover some of this corporately
[06:29] <somsip> yhusha: just volunteers here
[06:29] <jakebo> haha
[06:29] <yhusha> ever tried e17 gui?
[06:29] <jakebo> i haven't
[06:30] <yhusha> its nice realy prety light too
[06:30] <yhusha> a few bugs though
[06:31] <jakebo> I was a layman for linux
[06:31] <yhusha> it doesn't immediately recognize synaptic or software center from the menu
[06:32] <yhusha> in order to start synaptic for example it requires terminal gksu synaptic
[06:32] <yhusha> haven't eyt config'd it to work rom the menu
[06:33] <yhusha> from*
[06:33] <yhusha> but its way faster than unity
[06:33] <gnomefreak> yet*
[06:33] <yhusha> yea that too
[06:33] <gnomefreak> :)
[06:34] <jakebo> i'm a china man...@_@
[06:35] <yhusha> about to make a partition dedicated to linux os experiments
[06:35] <yhusha> realy
[06:35] <yhusha> wheres that from
[06:35] <jakebo> i want to say something, but i'm not good at english
[06:35] <jakebo> ......
[06:35] <yhusha> ok say DBR...
[06:35] <somsip> yhusha: this is a support forum rather than a place to chat. You're welcome to do chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:36] <jakebo> i want to cry --@@
[06:37] <jedb> I am trying to set up a tftp server and when i type this command... sudo chown -R nobody:nobody /var/lib/tftpboot       OutPut:    chown invalid group nobody:nobody
[06:37] <jedb> any ideas why
[06:37] <crimsonmane> you haven't made a group called nobody
[06:38] <jedb> do i need to create on called nobody or can i use an existing accout
[06:38] <jedb> one*
[06:38] <jedb> or how would i create the group called nobody
[06:39] <somsip> jedb: man groupadd
[06:40] <jedb> woah
[06:42] <kvothetech_> jedb: nano /etc/groups
[06:42] <kvothetech_> though nobody should exist by default
[06:43] <_jas> I'm trying to find how I can add a project to apt-get
[06:43] <_jas> or so it can be installed via apt-get, currently it's a linux package that sits on it's own, and it would be beneficial if I could install via apt-get
[06:43] <jedb> should there be some text in /etc/groups
[06:43] <_jas> are there any keywords I could be pointed towards to start reading? haven't had much luck googling
[06:44] <somsip> !packaging | _jas
[06:45] <jedb> i think i got it
[06:45] <crimsonmane> _jas: there has to be a PPA you can add to your software sources. unless you mean to get the program included in ubuntu's default repo?
[06:47] <jedb> i just added nobody:x:nobody
[06:49] <jedb> it still says invalid group: nobody:nobody
[06:52] <somsip> jedb: how did you add the group
[06:52] <jedb> i edited via nano /etc/groups
[06:52] <_jas> crimsonmane: I'm okay creating my own ppa to add to the software sources for now, it could qualify to get into ubuntu's default repo eventually but I'd like to start somewhere
[06:53] <jedb> i just enterd nobody:x:nobody
[06:53] <somsip> jedb: and you added nobody:x:nobody
[06:53] <alon> hi im getting an error:  python3-dbus : Depends: python3 (< 3.3) but 3.3.0-0ubuntu3 is to be installed, how do i override it cleanly?
[06:54] <somsip> jedb: does that format look correct to the other entries in the file?
[06:54] <_jas> ppa looks like it's the right thing to look up
[06:54] <_jas> thanks so much for the terminology crimsonmane
[06:54] <_jas> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[06:54] <jakebo> alon: my be you can sudo apt-get remove python
[06:55] <jedb> i have nogroup
[06:55] <jedb> i think
[06:55] <jedb> its just like all the others
[06:55] <alon> jakebo, i got 210 pkgs that depend on it
[06:55] <somsip> jedb: is the format of the other lines "groupname:x:groupuser"?
[06:56] <jedb> no its like nogroup:x:number:
[06:56] <somsip> jedb: so would you say, that isn't the same as the other entries then?
[06:57] <jedb> it dose not seem to be
[06:57] <somsip> jedb: hence my original advice to user groupadd
[06:57] <somsip> *user groupadd
[06:57] <somsip> *use groupadd ...gah!
[06:58] <jedb> so what would the command be
[06:59] <r4y> Do you all do every update Ubuntu issues?, My brother asked me this which I have wondered for a long time. I know that is a newbee like question, but Ihave been using Ubuntu for a few years now. I just update everything on the list
[06:59] <alon> any1 on 12.10 can install bluez (bluetooth support) and tell me what version of python they are running?
[06:59] <evilmoo> r4y: unless you're sure they're not security issues, you should install them all
[07:00] <somsip> jedb: it's not that difficult...
[07:00] <evilmoo> r4y: also, if you're sure you don't use the packages (directly or indirectly), you should remove them
[07:00] <jedb> it is if you have 3 weeks experience with the linux os
[07:01] <jedb> i did
[07:01] <jedb> useradd -U -m nobody
[07:01] <aezx> I'm trying to boot 12.10 from usb and it doesn't boot. it's been an hour and the cursor just keeps blinking
[07:01] <jedb> useradd: user nobody already exists
[07:01] <aezx> earlier i was getting a missing operating system error, but that seems to have gone away
[07:01] <somsip> jedb: why are you using useradd to add a group?
[07:02] <jedb> fuck if i know
[07:02] <jedb> http://www.edwardcrosby.com/2012/08/20/setting-tftp-server-in-linux-mint-12/
[07:02] <somsip> jedb: watch the language. I told you 'use groupadd'
[07:02] <r4y> I don't use evolution for instance, but I would be afraid of removing packages, I am guessing you don't mean to remove packages not used, but update packages
[07:02] <jedb> my bad
[07:02] <jedb> this is the tutorial im adding
[07:02] <jedb> using*
[07:03] <somsip> jedb: what ubuntu are you using?
[07:03] <Guest90381> use groupadd
[07:03] <sagex> hey
[07:03] <r4y> I've had Ubuntu fall apart from removing something I didn't like, but I can't remember what it was, but that was a long time ago
[07:03] <jedb> omg
[07:03] <jedb> derrrrr
[07:03] <jedb> linux mint
[07:03] <jedb> lol
[07:04] <sagex> I am trying to use a usb bluetooth adapter and It is not being recognized can anyone help
[07:04] <somsip> !mint | jedb
[07:04] <almoxarife> fall apart :)
[07:04] <bazhang> jedb, then get mint support. it's not supported here
[07:04] <jedb> tried
[07:04] <jedb> but o well
[07:04] <r4y> I know things I didn't know then, I could now fix that problem
[07:04] <r4y> I meant the problem I was havinf
[07:06] <sagex> is there a command that tells me what usb devices I have plugged in (dmesg?)
[07:06] <r4y> I meant,  I am guessing you don't mean to remove packages not used, but not updating packages not used is what you meant evilmon
[07:07] <MonkeyDust> sagex  lsusb
[07:07] <D3RGPS31> http://pastebin.com/r5DLi90z is a syslog of when a client pxe boots; it takes almost 3 minutes for tftp/pxelinux to go through the non-existent configs, and every request is repeated 17 times :l i'm using default tftpd-hpa config, this started happening after the latest tftpd-hpa update
[07:08] <stones_> Hi all. I am having some issues with my server load jumping very high.  Could anyone assist me in figuring out whats going on?
[07:08] <r4y> That's evilmoo not evilmon, sorry, the dark blue I have in use against the black background isn't much of a contrast in comparison.
[07:09] <somsip> stones_: check the processlist in mysql. Check the mysql error log
[07:09] <stones_> How do I check the processlist?
[07:10] <snoop> how i recover the root passwd in the new ubuntu 12.10 ? didnt get to set the root passwd =S
[07:10] <MonkeyDust> snoop  there is no root paswod, there's sudo
[07:10] <somsip> stones_: mysql -u {user} -p, enter password, then 'show processlist;'
[07:10] <somsip> !root | snoop
[07:11] <stones_> ./var/log/mysql.err has nothing in it. Completely empty
[07:11] <alon> anyone here is using bluetooth on 12.10?
[07:11] <somsip> stones_: check /var/log/mysql/error.log
[07:12] <stones_> Thanks guys. Don't see any specific errors?
[07:12] <stones_> 121130  1:51:34 [Warning] /usr/sbin/mysqld: Forcing close of thread 5605  user: ''
[07:13] <stones_> mainly see lines and lines of ^
[07:13] <jakebo> alon: I'm use 10.10 now, and i did not use bluetooth, sorry
[07:14] <somsip> stones_: maybe that will give you something to look into. I see some search results for that error message
[07:14] <snoop> ok tnx..
[07:14] <alon> last question i think: where is the dependencies database stored on ubuntu?
[07:14] <stones_> I see a bunch of logs within the -slow- log file
[07:14] <stones_> not sure if thats related though
[07:15] <snoop> its the force of habit from the other distros =P
[07:16] <somsip> stones_: they are often a performance killer
[07:16] <stones_> whatcha mean?
[07:16] <stones_> Im trying to pin point exactly whats causing SQL to cause a load on my server
[07:17] <somsip> stones_: that's why I suggested watching the processlist. To see if you have queries that are churning
[07:17] <stones_> As soon as SQL is started the load jumps up to 90+
[07:17] <somsip> stones_: is the DB being hit by an app?
[07:17] <stones_> hmm but as soon as I start SQL it crashing the server
[07:18] <somsip> stones_: so, back to researching the 'Forcing close of thread' error then
[07:18] <somsip> stones_: no errors about tables needing to be rebuilt or in an error state?
[07:18] <stones_> Let me google it. Thought that would be me shutting down SQL
[07:19] <somsip> stones_: or *check the processlist* to see if it is doing anything on startup, like trying to repair borked tables
[07:19] <fakixlix> Hola
[07:20] <stones_> How can I repair the tables via shell?
[07:20] <almoxarife> how do i change my locale via shell?
[07:20] <stones_> somsip I have to start SQL for that, correct?
[07:20] <stones_> As soon as I start SQL it crashes the server...
[07:22] <somsip> stones_: ah - good point :)
[07:22] <alon> if anyone cares, python3-dbus is broken since python3.2 and python3.3 are not compatible
[07:22] <somsip> stones_: maybe set the general query log in /etc/mysql/my.cnf to log everything?
[07:27] <jakebo> I would like to ask some questions, but i'm not good at english, what can't i do??
[07:27] <blackshirt> jakebo, you can ask here and describe your problem
[07:27] <bazhang> jakebo, whats your native language
[07:27] <jakebo> chinese
[07:28] <bazhang> jakebo, #ubuntu-cn has a chinese channel
[07:28] <jakebo> Ah, thinks!!
[07:31] <somsip> stones_: two things - I thought you said it hit high CPU levels not that it crashed, and if it's crashing how are you getting slow queries?
[07:33] <stones_> somsip What exactly should I put into the cnf file for this?
[07:33] <stones_> 121130  0:08:37 [Note] Retrying repair of: './likeoi/id_sessions' with keycache
[07:34] <stones_> I see a few of these, does this mean SQL is trying to repair the tables?
[07:34] <somsip> stones_: yes - that's what I was referring to earlier. Are the times current? Or are these old old queries?
[07:34] <G0di> buenas
[07:34] <G0di> alguien me puede ayudar en algo /?
[07:34] <somsip> !es | G0di
[07:35] <Guest91156> http://www.typit.yolasite.com
[07:35] <G0di> somsip grax
[07:35] <G0di> thx
[07:39] <somsip> !test
[07:39] <stones_> 21130  0:08:37 [ERROR] /usr/sbin/mysqld: Table './likeoi/ibf_sessions' is marked as crashed and should be repaired
[07:39] <stones_> 121130 yep, current... thats todays date actually
[07:40] <somsip> stones_: So I'd suggest looking at mysqlcheck/myisamchk and getting that sorted for a start
[07:40] <stones_> Is there a way I could repair the dbs without starting SQL? Might be a dumb question...?
[07:40] <somsip> stones_: using one of the two commands in my last comment :)
[07:41] <Kartagis> if I attempt to initialise an already in use partition for use by LVM with pvcreate, will that destroy the partition?
[07:42] <blackshirt> Hello
[07:42] <stones_> myisamchk? would that work? Do I have to repair EACH table at a time?
[07:43] <stones_> do I have to go through the logs and see which ones needed repairing or is there a way to check/repair all dbs automatically?
[07:43] <stones_> i appreciate your help btw ;)
[07:43] <somsip> stones_: I don't have experience of these so I would be looking up the answer for you. You would use myisamchk is you use MYISAM tables, so I suspect mysqlcheck for INNODB. And maybe you should fix the broken table first - likeoi DB, ibf_sessions table
[07:43] <somsip> stones_: could be a --repair-all option. Dunno
[07:43] <stones_> argh this gets more confusing
[07:43] <stones_> how do I know if im using innodb?
[07:43] <iceroot> stones_: also have a look at #mysql
[07:43] <stones_> I believe I am, but obviously want to make sure
[07:44] <somsip> stones_: don't know. I know my DBs, so I know what I use
[07:44] <stones_> is there a way to verify?
[07:44] <wopsk1> how do i setup internet sharing on ubuntu 12.04 can ne1 help
[07:45] <somsip> stones_: probably, but I'm not searching it for you
[07:45] <stones_> just checked
[07:45] <stones_> 121130  0:09:17  InnoDB: Started; log sequence number 1<PHONE_NUMBER>
[07:45] <stones_> I guess im using innodb than
[07:46] <peter_> is it repository or just package storage? http://packages.debian.org/unstable/editors/bless
[07:46] <wopsk1> help ne1?
[07:46] <somsip> stones_: different tables in the same DB can use different engines. INNODB engine might be started if it's not disabled in my.cnf
[07:46] <iceroot> peter_: its not the repo, also its debian not ubuntu, dont mix the packages
[07:47] <iceroot> !ics | wopsk1
[07:47] <peter_> iceroot: ok, thanks
[07:47] <stones_> i just dont want to mess anything up here
[07:47] <somsip> stones_: understandable. You should be careful
[07:48] <stones_> whats the best way to make a copy of the dbs first?
[07:48] <somsip> stones_: sudo cp -R /var/lib/mysql ~/Temp/
[07:49] <stones_> mysqlcheck is similar in function to myisamchk, but works differently.
[07:49] <stones_>        The main operational difference is that mysqlcheck must be used when
[07:49] <stones_>        the mysqld server is running,
[07:49] <wopsk1> tried that but no luck is there a program in software center u kno of
[07:49] <stones_> so neither is for InnoDB or myisam..
[07:50] <bazhang> !work | wopsk1
[07:51] <somsip> stones_: some info here, but you should be finding this yourself. I'm trying to help but this is not #mysql http://www.softwareprojects.com/resources/programming/t-how-to-fix-mysql-database-myisam-innodb-1634.html
[07:52] <wopsk1> ur right didnt think ne1 was listening well it dosen't make sense it says go to settings-network-wireless but i dont have a menu on 12.04
[07:54] <wopsk1> i can click on the wireless icon on the top right i dont have an option to create an ad hoc network and thats ot even what i want to do i want to set it up as a hotspot
[07:58] <wopsk1> if i cant setup internet sharing on ubuntu ill be forced to go back to windows...
[07:58] <stones_> OK so SQL runs fine once I stop Apache2
[07:58] <stones_> processlist only shows myself in it
[07:58] <somsip> stones_: is this a live site that you're running?
[08:00] <stones_> yeah
[08:01] <somsip> stones_: and are users hitting the site when apache is running. And would this generate queries to the DB?
[08:01] <Kartagis> if I attempt to initialise an already in use partition for use by LVM with pvcreate, will that destroy the partition?
[08:01] <stones_> started sql first then started apache2
[08:01] <stones_> load average: 0.47, 0.46, 0.55
[08:01] <somsip> stones_: so is your problem solved?
[08:01] <stones_> is there something i can leave open to monitor just in case the load spikes again?
[08:02] <somsip> stones_: who is your host?
[08:02] <stones_> friend of mine
[08:02] <somsip> stones_: ssh with top running then
[08:03] <helmut_> hi
[08:03] <grillinburg> hello
[08:04] <tafelpoot> I'd like to adapt this: http://pastebin.com/w4rkMHbZ to use logical names instead of the tape/by-path/$env{ID_PATH}. Here is a first try on that... http://pastebin.com/uMCdjX6X but it doesnt seem to work as I hoped...
[08:07] <qkit> evenig guys
[08:08] <Kartagis> if I attempt to initialise an already in use partition for use by LVM with pvcreate, will that destroy the partition?
[08:08] <qkit> let say i ssh in to a device , and i wanted to save all the command that i type in that ssh session. How can i save it? if i'm using terminal to ssh in?
[08:09] <somsip> qkit: use something like screen, tmux, byobu
[08:09] <qkit> oh, thanks somsip
[08:09] <somsip> qkit: np
[08:09] <BlackWeb> Does anyone know of a good Video Streamer Over WAn?
[08:11] <tafelpoot> qkit: you can just type 'history' and you'll see all your commands, or in ~/.bash_history
[08:11] <boichev> BlackWeb, VLC
[08:11] <tafelpoot> no udev professionals here? :(
[08:12] <qkit> tafelpoot: but that is already inside the ssh session
[08:13] <BlackWeb> I tried VLC, and Remote system is giving me a error
[08:13] <tafelpoot> qkit: oh, you want to save the commands you give on your local machine, not on the remote?
[08:13] <BlackWeb> I'll play with it some more and see if I can get it to work
[08:13] <BlackWeb> so if the server goes down then in order to restream it I have to start VLC Every reboot?
[08:13] <somsip> qkit: then the answer I gave is not what you need
[08:14] <qkit> is on remote machine, let say..i want to save all the configuration on that device
[08:14] <boichev> BlackWeb, yes
[08:15] <BlackWeb> Alright,  Thanks :)
[08:15] <tafelpoot> qkit: hmmm I don't get it... so you ssh in there and type 'echo bla > /etc/myprogram/conf' and 'cd /bla' and stuff... and you want to save those?
[08:15] <tafelpoot> or really just record every letter you type?
[08:15] <qkit> ok..let say i login to a cisco device using ssh, den i run show run. i want to capture what ever that show in there
[08:15] <qkit> hmm..i think screen can do that..
[08:16] <tafelpoot> okay I see...
[08:16] <tafelpoot> qkit: you can do 'ssh mybox | tee mydumpfile'
[08:17] <qkit> oh
[08:17] <qkit> interesting..let me test
[08:17] <boichev> BlackWeb, there is a way to do it from the command line so you can add it on startup and start the stream automaticly
[08:19] <qkit> tafelpoot: thanks...it works
[08:19] <Sail> i have one strange problem whenever i restart my system he show me the grub menu sometimes an sometimes not it happening this from the yesterday
[08:24] <syskoff> Hello
[08:24] <alex73> hello
[08:25] <alex73> !list
[08:25] <syskoff> Who can help me with LFS?
[08:27] <bazhang> syskoff, the lfs support channel NOT here
[08:27] <bazhang> !alis | syskoff have a search for it
[08:31] <Noskcaj> chromium never seems to get above 41.3Kbps even though everything else is much faster, any ideas?
[08:31] <stones_> Ok its acting up again but this time I have the processlist... what should I look for in it?
[08:31] <pndemc> I installed Zpanel on my ubuntu server, and now I can't launch my game servers, it keeps telling me "No such file or directory" when it gets to either ./steam or ./srcds_run
[08:33] <somsip> stones_: the queries that are running that might be causing excess load
[08:34] <pr3d4t0r> Greetings.
[08:34] <stones_> Do I look for multiple queries or?
[08:34] <stones_>  5697 | forumsforus          | localhost | forumsforus  | Sleep   |   42 |                  | NULL
[08:34] <stones_> I see a bunch of these for forumsforums
[08:35] <somsip> stones_: something that is running for a long time that is causing table locks elsewhere
[08:35] <tafelpoot> no udev guys around?
[08:35] <stones_> well I see that table/db a bunch of times
[08:36] <somsip> stones_: does the server have enough resources to be able to handle this DB?
[08:36] <stones_> with the highest of 53 seconds
[08:37] <pr3d4t0r> Q. apt-get update errors:  http://eugeneciurana.com/pastebin/pastebin.php?show=45586 - MergeList, dependency.  Ubuntu Server 12.04 LTS.  I can't update or upgrade because of this error -- how to solve it?  Vanilla Ubuntu server otherwise.
[08:37] <somsip> stones_: so your schema has problems ore the config is poor or the server is underpowered
[08:37] <pr3d4t0r> The dependency is something in Gnome - which is strange, since this is a headless machine.
[08:38] <MonkeyDust> pr3d4t0r  #ubuntu-server
[08:39] <stones_> yeah ram usage is 90%
[08:39] <pr3d4t0r> MonkeyDust: Gracias.
[08:39] <stones_> but i thought something was causing it to spike up
[08:39] <Sail> pr3d4t0r: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1685409
[08:39] <pr3d4t0r> MonkeyDust: I figured it out -- just nuke /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[08:39] <pr3d4t0r> Sail: Checking.
[08:40] <pr3d4t0r> MonkeyDust: This isn't a problem specific to server anyway -- it's a package manager issue.
[08:41] <somsip> stones_: so you need to find out what it is. Troubleshooting servers like this can get complex and it's not something I'm prepared to cover with you here. But maybe you should check indexes on the tables and try to solve your slow queries. But ultimately, you might just find the server is underpowered.
[08:41] <pr3d4t0r> Sail: Right - similar to what I found.  Just force apt to re-read all package lists.  Thanks for your help :)
[08:42] <pr3d4t0r> Have a nice day, guys.
[08:42] <somsip> stones_: or needs more RAM or mySQL config changes
[08:43] <alloccer> May someone help me? I can't find how to install AMD Radeon 7670M Drivers on ubuntu 12.04 LTS. I installed Catalist, but it alerts error...
[08:44] <Surye> is there a way to, remotely via ssh, enable a full VNC session (connect to the login screen, login, have a full session)? I can't seem to find a conclusive answer online
[08:46] <RiXtEr> Surye, if you are connecting with another *nix machine (using X) you can ssh -X user@host and when something needs X it will pull only that app up on your screen.
[08:47] <tizxxx> can anyone explain me why ifconfig and /etc/network/interfaces show different settings? :)
[08:49] <RiXtEr> tizxxx, are you using a desktop environment?
[08:52] <iceroot> tizxxx: ifconfig is reading the current network settings which can be set via interfaces, network-manager and so on
[08:53] <iceroot> tizxxx: interfaces is just one way to edit the settings but network-manager will for example overwrite that settings
[08:53] <ex0a> i keep getting a kernel panic when trying to boot the quantal iso via grub2 loopback: Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[08:53] <almoxarife> Surye: the login screen via vnc i think is a no can do
[08:54] <ex0a> i've been googling for a while now but i can't find anything that has worked so far
[08:54] <ex0a> any ideas?
[08:54] <aum__> i followed this link to setup quota http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-setup-disk-quotas-in-ubuntu.html , this is my fstab entery : UUID=d0841a05-14ae-447a-b54e-672e9689e82b /               ext4    defaults,errors=remount-ro,usrquota,grpquota 0       1 , now in  "quotacheck -avugm" its giving "quotacheck: Cannot guess format from filename on /dev/disk/by-uuid/d0841a05-14ae-447a-b54e-672e9689e82b. Please specify format on commandline.quotacheck: Cannot find fi
[08:54] <aum__> lesystem to check or filesystem not mounted with quota option."
[08:54] <FloodBot1> aum__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:54] <tizxxx> iceroot, i apt-get purge network manager, ifconfig shows actual ip, but i want settings from interfaces.
[08:54] <Surye> almoxarife: Shoot, I thought I've done that in the past.
[08:55] <tizxxx> iceroot, i'm using script from opennebula for my vm, it puts rights settings to interfaces file, but i can't figure out how to apply them
[08:56] <almoxarife> Surye: i could be proved wrong, i would appreciate that, i am facing the same dilema sort of
[09:01] <blackshirt> was ubuntu plan to adapt kfreebsd as official platform supported ?
[09:03] <ex0a> i keep getting a kernel panic when trying to boot the quantal iso via grub2 loopback: Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) - any ideas?
[09:05] <najwa> was ubuntu plan to adapt kfreebsd as official platform supported ?
[09:06] <paijo> was ubuntu plan to adapt kfreebsd as official platform supported ?
[09:07] <ExUnixGuru> Does anyone know if the Ubuntu installer has RAID drivers available to be innstalled during the install, specifically what is the trick to install Ubuntu on a  RAID?  It errors when I tried to install it on my RAID 0 SSD drives.
[09:23] <almoxarife> i have nothing left to install linux on, i wonder how the toaster would feel about that
[09:23] <cratok> great idea! apt-get install bacon
[09:23] <pupil> Was ubuntu plan to adapt kfreebsd as a platform officially suported ?
[09:24] <pupil> !bacon
[09:24] <almoxarife> kfreebds? is that an illness?
[09:25] <pupil> almoxarife, why do you say like that ?
[09:25] <pupil> any reason for that ?
[09:26] <almoxarife> pupil: no reason, no
[09:27] <almoxarife> should i expect sound via a vnc connection? on the host end?
[09:28] <almoxarife> !info rdp
[09:28] <almoxarife> !rdp
[09:28] <RiXtEr> !info remmina
[09:29] <almoxarife> !info krdc
[09:29] <voxcroix> hi
[09:30] <phix> hi
[09:30] <pupil> hi voxcroix
[09:30] <phix> how are you buddy?
[09:30] <ExUnixGuru> Does anyone know who I should be directing questions toward?  I need help installing on RAID
[09:30] <RiXtEr> evening philipballew
[09:30] <voxcroix> fine
[09:30] <RiXtEr> err wrong nic
[09:30] <RiXtEr> evening phix
[09:30] <phix> ExUnixGuru: just direct questions to the channel
[09:30] <voxcroix> are you ubuntu user?
[09:30] <phix> RiXtEr: <3
[09:30] <RiXtEr> ExUnixGuru, hardware or software raid?
[09:31] <taylor_> facebook
[09:31] <pupil> !raid
[09:31] <ExUnixGuru> I am starting to play with .. was a Unix Furu 20+ years ago.  Plan to set up a server eventually for a friends business
[09:31] <pupil> !raid | exunixguru
[09:31] <ExUnixGuru> oops Guru
[09:31] <ExUnixGuru> excuse typos am a one  h anded  touch typer
[09:31] <phix> ExUnixGuru: ah ok
[09:32] <phix> ExUnixGuru: hey, so you using hardware or software raid?
[09:32] <foo357> Hello, I need a newer version of a certain software than the version in the repositories
[09:32] <ExUnixGuru> Have been doing lotds of reading but ran into the problem of trying to install plain Ubuntu release alongside windows on RAID SSD'
[09:33] <killer1> how i can get source code as i wanna compile  ubuntu from source
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> killer1: sudo apt-get source packagename
[09:33] <pupil> killer1, you can download it from upstream
[09:33] <ExUnixGuru> IS MB RAID
[09:33] <ExUnixGuru> sorry
[09:34] <ExUnixGuru> bumped cap lock
[09:34] <phix> ExUnixGuru: MB RAID, so it is software raid
[09:34] <RiXtEr> ExUnixGuru, so your using a hardware raid (configured by the motherboard?)
[09:34] <phix> ExUnixGuru: is it a server motherboard or a desktop motherboard?
[09:34] <killer1> ActionParsnip : i know that this way i will get source but how do i know how many packages or what packages i need to compile as a standard ubuntu distro
[09:34] <ExUnixGuru> likelely is firmware raid from  biios. has several RAiIIDed sets
[09:35] <phix> RiXtEr: most likely it isnt a desktop mobo so chances are it is firmware + drivers that does the raid
[09:35] <ExUnixGuru> Windows uses a driver during install
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> killer1: there are loads. You don't just "compile a distro", it takes ages, compiling each package that makes up the OS.
[09:35] <phix> firmware for the config and drivers / modules to do the actual raiding
[09:35] <ExUnixGuru> correct
[09:35] <RiXtEr> phix, agreed.
[09:35] <phix> RiXtEr: msot liekly it is a desktop mobo even
[09:35] <phix> typo
[09:35] <RiXtEr> ExUnixGuru, so google search for the module that needs loaded on boot.
[09:36] <phix> hey should I get peperoni or lamb shank meat pizza?
[09:36] <ExUnixGuru> but how do I  get that into the  Ubuntu installer
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> !ot | phix
[09:36] <RiXtEr> ExUnixGuru, you can load it when the cd is booting.
[09:36] <ExUnixGuru> II believe the MFG has the drivers
[09:36] <ExUnixGuru> for linux
[09:36] <killer1> ActionParsnip: u compiled a distro ever?(by compiling packages needed)
[09:37] <ExUnixGuru> what it does is - hang with an error
[09:37] <ExUnixGuru> refuses tpo  install
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> killer1: I've used gentoo, so technically yes
[09:37] <RiXtEr> ExUnixGuru, a google search for loading (your firmwaretype here) driver on linux livecd might help
[09:37] <MonkeyDust> !google
[09:37] <ExUnixGuru> ok.. will try attacking with that direction
[09:37] <ExUnixGuru> thank you  very much
[09:38] <RiXtEr> MonkeyDust, he hasn't given me info on the card yet, google seemed logical
[09:38] <phix> ActionParsnip: It was ubuntu related, I am using firefox under ubuntu to do the ordering
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> phix: is the browser working ok?
[09:40] <phix> ActionParsnip: I do get flash issues with this particular pizza website
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> phix: then state that rather than some offtopic thing
[09:40] <phix> ActionParsnip: It does matter though
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> phix: no worries
[09:43]  * RiXtEr laughs @ phix and ActionParsnip
[09:52] <joobie> hey guys.. im running a windows OS virtualized on linux, which uses an iscsi block device for the windows box's disk. Under average load i see slower performance of the windows box - i'm guessing this is because the iscsi is slowing or hitting threashold issues
[09:53] <joobie> any tips?  ive setup 2 x gigabit in a bonded mode 0 to the iscsi san
[09:54] <MonkeyDust> joobie  vbox?
[09:54] <foo357> Hello, I need a newer version of a certain software than the version available in the repositories. However a lot of software depends on this package that's already installed, how should I install from source and not mess everything up?
[09:54] <joobie> ya
[09:54] <joobie> but just not sure if mode 0 could be causing this
[09:55] <joobie> or where to start to try optimize
[09:55] <MonkeyDust> joobie  in a terminal, try rdesktop -u [user] [windows IP] <-- see if that is slow too
[09:56] <joobie> oh sorry MonkeyDust
[09:56] <joobie> i thought you meant is it a virtual box
[09:56] <joobie> but it's kvm
[09:57] <MonkeyDust> ah, i'm not too familiar with kvm
[09:57] <joobie> ahh k
[09:57] <joobie> doh :)
[09:58] <joobie> thanks neway hey
[09:58] <dr_willis> foo357:  useing a ppa is the prefered way. what  program  are you needing?
[09:58] <Andy80> hi guys...
[09:58] <foo357> dr_willis: Imagemagick
[09:59] <Andy80> who had the "fantastic" idea to upgrade the Ubuntu kernel from 3.5 to 3.7, screweing up the whole desktop? Resolution with my Nvidia is broken and neither Unity can start.
[09:59] <MonkeyDust> Andy80  the current keren is 3.5.0-18-generic
[09:59] <MonkeyDust> kernel*
[10:00] <dr_willis> isent 3.5 going end of life. ;-)
[10:01] <Andy80> MonkeyDust, I got 3.7 yesterday from an upgrade... maybe it was a PPA? How can I detect it?
[10:01] <dr_willis> 3.7 is in the next release? ive not tried it
[10:02] <MonkeyDust> yeah, guess 3.7 is for raring
[10:02] <MonkeyDust> Andy80  what's the output of lsb_release -sd ?
[10:02] <auronandace> MonkeyDust: 3.5.0-19 recently came out, i just upgrades (just so you know)
[10:03] <Andy80> MonkeyDust, andrea@andrea-Inspiron-660:~$ lsb_release -sd
[10:03] <Andy80> Ubuntu 12.10
[10:04] <media-centre> good morning peeps
[10:04] <Andy80> is it possible that this package comes from a PPA?
[10:04] <media-centre> got a new problem for you
[10:04] <dr_willis> Andy80:  possuble
[10:04] <Andy80> and how can I detect which "deb" line caused this? There must be a way to know it
[10:05] <dr_willis> see what synaptic shows
[10:06] <dr_willis> it can show packages based on what repo
[10:06] <media-centre> logictech webcam wont show on ubuntu
[10:06] <Andy80> dr_willis, it says "(quantal)"
[10:07] <Andy80> uhm... no wait wait...
[10:07] <dr_willis> bottom left in synapitic has a show by source button
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> media-centre: if you run: cheese    does it show?
[10:08] <media-centre> no
[10:08] <Andy80> damn it... it was the  "xorg-edgers" -.-'
[10:08] <media-centre> not even on benchmark
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> media-centre: can you pastebin the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; lsusb
[10:09] <thesadmafioso> Will linux-image-3.0.0-27-generic work for 10.04 LTS?
[10:09] <media-centre> i did go on some of the forums some of them did give me drivers but they for older kernels
[10:09] <Andy80> ok, I will "force version"
[10:09] <thesadmafioso> I know it's not the most current and I know I need to get a newer distro SOON.
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> thesadmafioso: it may, but the kernel will not be supported heer
[10:10] <thesadmafioso> ActionParsnip: Why is that? Just curious.
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> thesadmafioso: only the packages from the official repos for your release can be supoprted here
[10:11] <thesadmafioso> ActionParsnip: Is there a kernel version 3.0 or greater available in the repos for 10.04? How could I check that with apt-get or apt-cache?
[10:11] <media-centre> heres the output
[10:11] <media-centre> http://pastebin.com/wvkm4tH7
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> media-centre: is it a touchscreen PC?
[10:12] <media-centre> no
[10:12] <almoxarife> sooner or later the question will come up, what can i do on linux-lxde(buntu) that i wont ever be able to do on an android?
[10:13] <media-centre> just a pc with a tv for a monitor
[10:13] <llutz> almoxarife: "not much"
[10:13] <media-centre> brb
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> media-centre: if you run:  lsmod | grep uvc   do you get an output?
[10:15] <dr_willis> android is more  "sandboxed"/locked down. i guess would be a major differance
[10:15] <media-centre> wait their
[10:15] <thesadmafioso> Ah, seems that at least kernel image 3.0.0-13 is supported with 10.04 LTS; do I need any backports? apt is suggesting that I get some sort of Oneiric backport sources?
[10:15] <media-centre> no none
[10:15] <dr_willis> !backports
[10:16] <almoxarife> dr_willis: i installed lxde on the android, i am stripping lxde of everything the android does already, and i wont have much of the lxde left to even make it worth having it
[10:17] <Walther> So, uh, any news on nvidia-experimental-310 repackaging so that it would provide nvidia-current?
[10:17] <Walther> because currently installing nvidia-experimental-310 uninstalls bumblebee
[10:18] <dr_willis> almoxarife:   depends on your needs i guess.
[10:18] <dr_willis> not all linux apps are ported to android. ;-)
[10:19] <thesadmafioso> dr_willis: I see a kernel version for 10.04 in the repos, and the backports pertaining to Oneiric are only "suggested" ; I may be fine without getting them, and if they were truly necessary they would be dependencies, yes?
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> media-centre: try:  sudo modprobe uvcvideo
[10:21] <dr_willis> backpprts are a special case  i gurss you can say
[10:21] <almoxarife> why are so many people fixating on keeping 10.04 alive?, is that the magic distro for something i dont know about?
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> almoxarife: could just run openbox on it's own (no DE), should be lighter
[10:22] <dr_willis> they cling to the gnome....
[10:22] <thesadmafioso> I am actually just in a position where it's better for me not to go trying a new distro; I'm limited in what I can do if things go wrong because of where I am/what I have at my disposal.
[10:22] <almoxarife> dr_willis: gnome2? that it?
[10:22] <thesadmafioso> I like the gnome2!
[10:23] <thesadmafioso> Isn't there some point during the boot process where you can press SHIFT and manually select your kernel version?
[10:24] <dr_willis> gnome2 had a lot of issues people like to overlook. ;-)  but its dead now..
[10:24] <MonkeyDust>  <C +m
[10:24] <MonkeyDust> [3;2~
[10:24] <dr_willis> thesadmafioso:  at the start. or set the grub menu to not hide.
[10:24] <almoxarife> i went from gnome2 to kde, have not looked back
[10:25] <thesadmafioso> All right, well as long as I can do that I should be fine. Off to try this thing out.
[10:25] <thesadmafioso> Thank you all for your help/insight. :)
[10:26] <A_I_> hi
[10:26] <A_I_> what means this regexp ?  : [-/%.0-9a-z]
[10:27] <Andy80> uff... I've disable the xorg-edgers PPA. Now if I want to remove the linux*3.7 packages, it also asks me to remove the metapackages like: linux-generic* and linux-headers, how can I avoid it?
[10:27] <dzhus> good day, can I run an upstart init script if it's symlinked to another location?
[10:27] <Andy80> I just want to remove linux 3.7 packages
[10:27] <dzhus> like ~/.init/foo.conf -> ~/system-scripts/foo.conf
[10:27] <Walther> So, uh, any news on nvidia-experimental-310 repackaging so that it would provide nvidia-current? At the moment installing the 310 drivers uninstalls bumblebee
[10:27] <dr_willis> theres a ppa-purge tool i belive
[10:28] <dzhus> upstart seems to not see the script at alll
[10:28] <media-centre> ActionParsnip: ive done sudo modprobe uvcvideo
[10:28] <media-centre> and it hasnt shown anything
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> media-centre: you may need a udev rule to tell it that the sunplus ID is a webcam
[10:29] <media-centre> ok so im editing a file for astartters i guess
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> media-centre: possibly
[10:29] <MonkeyDust> A_I_  it means 'all characters from 0-9 and from a-z plus the % sign'
[10:30] <media-centre> well im not exactly expert at all of this
[10:30] <media-centre> so
[10:30] <media-centre> youll have to take me through step by step
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> media-centre: gksudo gedit /etc/udev/rules.d/jj-video.rules
[10:31] <A_I_> MonkeyDust and the slash "/" sign too noo ?
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> media-centre: add:      SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="045e", ATTR{idProduct}=="072d", ACTION=="add", GROUP="audio", RUN+="/usr/local/bin/webcam-mic"
[10:31] <A_I_> what means the minus sign "-" ?
[10:31] <media-centre> ok the file is blank
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> but change the idProduct to 05ca and the idVendor to: 1bcf
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> media-centre: wait a sec, i'll neaten this up
[10:32] <media-centre> ok
[10:33] <media-centre> thank you for this
[10:33] <MonkeyDust> A_I_  the / is used to indicate 'as is', so not as a symbol
[10:34] <A_I_> thanks MonkeyDust !
[10:36] <media-centre> you still their andy
[10:37] <weox> hello , i am newbie in ubuntu , is there any official plan for releasing unity 6.12 for ubuntu 12.10 ? or should i wait for ubuntu next major release ??
[10:37] <sevoxx> No.
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> media-centre: add this line: http://pastebin.com/u3yDNFMr
[10:39] <media-centre> ok ive added and saved the document
[10:39] <llutz> A_I_: the regex matches all chars inside the brackets
[10:39] <Walther> So, uh, any news on nvidia-experimental-310 repackaging so that it would provide nvidia-current? At the moment installing the 310 drivers uninstalls bumblebee
[10:39] <sab> Hi
[10:39] <media-centre> should i restart and see if it works
[10:39] <BlackWeb> Is it Possible to start a stream with VLC through the Webgui, or SSH Command Prompt?
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> media-centre: sure
[10:39] <media-centre> ok see you in a minuit
[10:39] <sab> Could someone tell me if it is possible to have 2 GPU's working
[10:39] <Guest73351> pleas like http://my-video-xxx.notlong.com
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> BlackWeb: sure, you can run vlc in cli to setup a stream
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> sab: sure
[10:41] <BlackWeb> I have VLC installed on a Server which I'm trying to get to work and spent the last 5hrs Playing with it, Can only get it to work if I do it through My local system Gui not server
[10:41] <Guest73351> pleas like me      http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080/klTeVYigqDmp
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> BlackWeb: you can use vlc-nox
[10:41] <Guest73351> on my ip page face and palpok
[10:41] <Guest73351> http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080/klTeVYigqDmp
[10:41] <DJones> Guest73351: Please don't spam, do you have an ubuntu support question
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> Guest73351: please stop spamming
[10:42] <Guest73351> ok
[10:42] <sab> ActionParsnip: thanks for answering - my second monitor is plugged into my second GPU - how do I check if it can work.
[10:42] <BlackWeb> How do you use vlc-nox, no manual
[10:42] <weox> cant anyone answer my  question ? is that silly  question ?? hello , i am newbie in ubuntu , is there any official plan for releasing unity 6.12 for ubuntu 12.10 ? or should i wait for ubuntu next major release ??
[10:42] <Guest73351> a
[10:42] <Guest73351> http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080/klTeVYigqDmp
[10:42] <Guest73351> ssssssssssss
[10:42] <Guest73351> http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080/klTeVYigqDmp
[10:42] <Guest73351> http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080/klTeVYigqDmp
[10:42] <FloodBot1> Guest73351: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:43] <Virunga> Hi! I don't have unzip installed on my machine, must i have it installed for unzip files or there's another solution?
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> sab: you'll probably need an xorg.conf if the GPUs are different?
[10:44] <media-centre> nope didnt work
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> Virunga: install unp
[10:45] <media-centre> ok
[10:45] <media-centre> oh wait that aint me
[10:45] <sab> ActionParsnip: they are both the same and so are my monitors
[10:45] <Virunga> ActionParsnip: isn't there any sys call/command i can use?
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> Virunga: could maybe use teh vlc web ui
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> sab: are they nvidia based?
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> media-centre: you'll need to play with that til it flies, that ID will help you find guides
[10:46] <sab> ActionParsnip: unfortunately no they are ATI's
[10:47] <Virunga> ActionParsnip: well, then i'll surrender and install something. Thanks :)
[10:47] <media-centre> ok
[10:48]  * regf watches the chat while waiting for his desktop to resume from hibernation... 2 hours of heavy disk activity, and it still haven't resumed yet
[10:48]  * regf wonders wtf is it doing
[10:49] <media-centre> is it any particular digits
[10:49] <media-centre> 4 or 10 or 7
[10:50] <mgedmin> whoa, two hours?  ouch
[10:50] <mgedmin> hibernation sucks, but two hours sounds excessive
[10:50] <regf> yeah, usually it resumes fine
[10:50] <regf> last time it happened, it resumed successfully after ~1 hour
[10:51] <phix> Virunga: sudo apt-get install zip unzip