[03:14] <tien> Can I use "mozilla thunderbird mail client in Ubuntu
[03:14] <jrib> brunner: what ubuntu version?
[03:14] <tien> 8.10
[03:15] <unop> tien, sure
[03:15] <scunizi> tien, yes.. sudo apt-get install thunderbird
[03:15] <nightrid3r> marine: as i said before i cant realy comment on memory usage
[03:15] <emma> jrib, mindrape, says: wlan0 interface does not support scanning.
[03:15] <tien> unop, where ca i download it ?
[03:15] <mindrape> tien - pull up Synaptic package manager...
[03:15] <brunner> jrib: 8.04
[03:15] <mindrape> emma - sudo iwconfig... what is the name of your wireless interface?
[03:15] <scunizi> tien, system>Admin>synaptic package managerr
[03:15] <unop> tien, it's available from ubuntu's repositories
[03:16] <exodus_ms> tien: sudo aptitude install mozilla-thunderbird
[03:16] <emma> mindrape: is that 'wifi0' ?
[03:16] <brunner> I just upgraded to 64-bit Flash from Adobe's website, and that's when the audio issues started.  Flash and Miro won't work at the same time.  Once one starts playing, it disables the other.
[03:16] <plytheman> so I'm trying to update my ATI drivers, is this a good guide? http://news.softpedia.com/news/Install-Nvidia-and-ATI-video-drivers-on-Ubuntu-Edgy-44388.shtml
[03:16] <exodus_ms> tien: or sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird
[03:16] <unop> !thunderbird > unop
[03:16] <jrib> brunner: it will probably "just work" in 8.10
[03:16] <marine> nightrid3r, ok brother ut let me point something out i just checked and there is 41 programs loaded in my system monotor's screen
[03:17] <brunner> jrib: why's that?
[03:17] <plytheman> I made it as far as "sudo aticonfig -initial" and it told me there's no config file
[03:17] <mindrape> emma - most likely... sudo iwlist wifi0 scan
[03:17] <jrib> brunner: there were issues with flash and pulse in 8.04
[03:17] <marine> elashish, and most of them are sleeping ut still using ny ram
[03:17] <emma> mindrape, jrib doing sudo iwconfig actually is showing the ESSID I expected to see in a list of potential ESSIDs
[03:17] <brunner> jrib: I see.  How do I force a distro upgrade without using the command line?
[03:17] <jrib> !upgrade | brunner
[03:17] <nightrid3r> marine: every peace of functionality is a program in linux
[03:18] <elashish> marine, if your system is out of RAM, then the machine will start using swap - as long as swap is empty, you have enough memory available
[03:18] <marine> nightrid3r,  i have 4 gigs so it's not a big deal
[03:18] <emma> mindrape: that did it. You are quite good.
[03:18] <spaw1> how do i reset my password or see it?
[03:18] <Nomexous> marine, unused memory is wasted memory. Linux caches lots of stuff in unused memory to make things go faster
[03:18] <mindrape> emma-  thats what all the girls say...
[03:18] <plytheman> what's the easiest way to update my ati video drivers? I'm trying this: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Install-Nvidia-and-ATI-video-drivers-on-Ubuntu-Edgy-44388.shtml but its not working
[03:18] <emma> mindrape: :P
[03:18] <plytheman> please and thanks =D
[03:18] <[biabia]> the ubuntu disk has a nice feature to install  or run live on a computer thatwont let you boot from cd, but the library has deepfreeze or something preventing it. is there a way around that
[03:18] <jeeves_Moss> what would cause an almost 1second ping?
[03:18] <jeeves_Moss> what would cause an almost 1second ping?
[03:18] <[biabia]> lag
[03:18] <emma> mindrape: I'm surprised that there is no gui app by default on the desktop for doing that though.
[03:19] <mindrape> spaw1 - crack your /etc/shadow file            or login to single user mode (root) and        passwd YOURUSER
[03:19] <liquid> jeeves_Moss about 500ms of latency both ways
[03:19] <unop> spaw1, you can't view your password.
[03:19] <tonsofpcs> [biabia]: ask the system administrator
[03:19] <mindrape> emma - there should be... network-manager pops up on my laptop install (I turned it off on my desktop though)
[03:19] <emma> seems like there should be a way to see what 'hotspots' are available, if you are walking around with your laptop.
[03:19] <tonsofpcs> we will not help you break security systems
[03:19] <marine> Nomexous, i was just comparing windows memory usage to linux
[03:19] <emma> mindrape: network-manager does have an icon in my system tray but it seems to have no content in it.
[03:19] <mindrape> emma - System -> Preferences -> Sessions -> add network-manager to your startup list
[03:20] <jeeves_Moss> liquid, thanks professor.  I know that.  I've been having issues since the last update about a week ago.  even local on my LAN @ home, we're not doing much better than 200K/sec
[03:20] <n8tuser2> emma -> sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[03:20] <mindrape> maybe its not network-manager... lemme see if I can find it.
[03:20] <emma> mindrape: everything is greyed out except for VPN Connections >
[03:20] <marine> nightrid3r, i know windows need swap as linux does not and hasn't used any on my linux side yet
[03:20] <Nomexous> marine: Determining memory usage in Linux is kinda tricky. You might want to google it to see for yourself.
[03:20] <mindrape> emma - if you right-click on it you may have to choose Enable networking
[03:20] <jrib> mindrape, emma: nmapplet shows it for me, but it should be displaying them by default if the card works
[03:20] <mindrape> nmapplet... that is it!!!!!
[03:20] <bravo7> I have ubuntu x64
[03:20] <Nomexous> marine: I wouldn't worry about the fact that it seems like Linux is using a lot more memory than Windows.
[03:21] <liquid> jeeves_Moss What module does your nic use?
[03:21] <Its_me> USB Keyboard and Mouse not working on my "Ubuntu 8.10 - the Intrepid Ibex"?
[03:21] <bravo7> I have ubuntu x64 and i can't view youtube or any thing
[03:21] <Nomexous> marine: I hardly doubut it's the case.
[03:21] <elashish> jeeves_Moss can you test from another machine (possibly running windows)?
[03:21] <IndyGunFreak> bravo7: you need to install flash
[03:21] <plytheman> bravo7, flash plugins installed for FF/Opera?
[03:21] <jeeves_Moss> liquid, it's an Intel card.
[03:21] <cactus__> so i booted a laptop running vista with the ubuntu CD and installed ubuntu onto a flashdrive, now that's where GRUB is installed and the flash drive is required to boot
[03:22] <marine> Nomexous, that's fine cause right now it says it's using 11.4% of 3.7 gigs and no swap
[03:22] <mindrape> !grub | cactus__
[03:22] <jeeves_Moss> elashish, everyone else on the network seems to have normal speed, and last time I checked, the wired Intel NIC is fine as well
[03:22] <liquid> jeeves_Moss How long has it done this?
[03:22] <plytheman> what's the easiest way to update my ati video drivers? I'm trying this: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Install-Nvidia-and-ATI-video-drivers-on-Ubuntu-Edgy-44388.shtml but its not working.  Please and thanks =D
[03:22] <Its_me> USB Keyboard and Mouse not working on my "Ubuntu 8.10 - the Intrepid Ibex", please help.
[03:22] <jeeves_Moss> liquid, about a week (it started shortly after an update)
[03:22] <bravo7> plytheman for ff
[03:22] <mindrape> Its_me: plug them in and using your ps2 keyboard (you have one, right?)  type lsusb
[03:22] <emma> i have the nmapplet showing up in the gnome panel at the top. And networking and wireless are both enabled - indeed, the laptop is on the internet right now -- but what is funny to me is that there is no list of 'available networks' in this gui.
[03:22] <spaw1> i need some one on one help with make && install
[03:22] <elashish> jeeves_Moss can you revert to the state before the update
[03:23] <emma> without a list of available networks it might be hard, when roaming with the laptop to know what to get on to.
[03:23] <jrib> emma: what ubuntu version?
 Yes
[03:23] <mindrape> emma - it shows them for me... if you walk around, based on the beacon timing of each router, it will update.
[03:23] <bravo7> plytheman ff
[03:23] <emma> jrib: 8.10
[03:23] <scunizi> mindrape, might also be a bios setting for Its_me
[03:23] <liquid> jeeves_Moss Do you know what update(s) you installed?
[03:23] <marine> nightrid3r, windows is not even close to comparisom that's why i swtich
[03:23] <emma> mindrape: What do you click on to get the list of avaliable networks?
[03:23] <cactus__> so i should tell grub that I want it to be on my HD?
[03:23] <jeeves_Moss> elashish, I think I tired that.  This has been a longer standing install and has had 2 dist-upgrades, so I think I should blow it away and start fresh.  This is my road warrier laptop
[03:23] <n8tuser2> emma -> sudo iwlist wlan0 scan <-- is this overly difficult to type in your terminal to see hotspots around you?
 Its working correctly on my another OS, even in OS choice menu.
[03:24] <mindrape> emma - ask jrib... I dont use that except on my laptop which I barely bootup anymore.
[03:24] <jrib> mindrape: ditto
[03:24] <elashish> jeeves_Moss i would test from a boot disc first
[03:24] <marine> nightrid3r,  just want my machine to be in perfect health
[03:24] <plytheman> bravo7: check http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-newbie/110894-how-install-flash-player-firefox-ubuntu.html
[03:24] <exodus_ms> Its_me: did you upgrade from 8.04
[03:24] <IndyGunFreak> emma: you can left clcik on nm-applet, and it should show networks you wireless device can see
[03:24] <mindrape> Its_me - check dmesg for errors... ?
[03:24] <emma> n8tuser2: well i did that earlier and it says it does not support that, however, doing: "sudo iwlist wifi0 scan" does give me a list of available networks in the command line.
[03:24] <bravo7> plytheman for 64?
 No fresh install
[03:25] <jeeves_Moss> elashish, yea, I'll do that when I get home.  I think I've still got the orignal disks I ordered somewhere around the house.
[03:25] <jeeves_Moss> elashish, all I know is that the network install of Ubuntu (the mini disk) is a life saver on old/odd ball systems
[03:25] <bravo7> plytheman sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree?
[03:25] <plytheman> bravo7: not sure, I'm still pretty new to buntu myself, but that should work
[03:25] <n8tuser2> emma -> replace wlan0 with your wireless nic name perhaps ath0
[03:25] <marine> nightrid3r, still with us
[03:25] <elashish> jeeves_Moss agreed, and if the latest version doesn't work, i would revert back to LTS
[03:25] <Its_me> mindrape: but I am using same Keyboard in PS/2 mode.
[03:25] <bravo7> plytheman i think i got it
[03:25] <emma> n8tuser2: Huh?
[03:26] <plytheman> sweet deal
[03:26] <mindrape> emma - I think I might know the problem... if you got your wireless device working via        sudo iwconfig you may need to sudo ifconfig wifi0 down     then re-enable it via nm-applet so it "has control"
[03:26] <jeeves_Moss> elashish, is 9.0 out yet?
[03:26] <elashish> jeeves_Moss it's in alpha, you can try it but it's not recommended - it won't be out until april
[03:26] <jeeves_Moss> elashish, I'm wondering if it'll fix my nVidia GO issue and actully let me run 3D stuff without locking up my system every 3 mins
[03:26] <scunizi> What does pci=nomsi mean in the kernel line?  what does it do?
[03:26] <elashish> jeeves_Moss i doubt it, nVidia is nVidia :-(
[03:27] <n8tuser2> emma -> wireless nic names varies, it could have been wllan0, ath0, anyname0, eth1
[03:27] <emma> mindrape: my guess is that the same reason "sudo iwlist wifi0 scan" works and "sudo iwlist wlan0 scan" does not, is the same reason that there is no list of available networks showing up in the nm-applet. Maybe there is some way to tell nm-applet to scan using wifi0 too.
[03:27] <EagleScreen> what is ubuntu hug day?
[03:27] <mindrape> emma - maybe so... perhaps you can pass it parameters when you launch it?  man nm-applet ?
[03:27] <exodus_ms> Its_me: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE
[03:27] <Its_me> mindrape: I mean shall I connect my USB mouse first and then check for errors? because I am using same keyboard and I need it to type commands.
[03:27] <plytheman> Can someone help me with updating my ati drivers?
[03:28] <mindrape> yes Its_me  :)
[03:28] <jrib> EagleScreen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/ everyone works on bugs together and hugs each other :)
[03:28] <jeeves_Moss> elashish, well, I installed the restricted drivers, and as the system runs, the "freezing" gets worse and worse.  I blame it on nVidia and Toshiba.  This "bastard child" they created has keept me close to going insane!
[03:28] <mindrape> !ati
[03:28] <cactus__> !grub
[03:28] <plytheman> ubottu: thanks, checking now
[03:28] <EagleScreen> jrib I said Hug day
[03:28] <liquid> jeeves_Moss can you run 'lspci -k' and tell me what module your nic uses?
[03:28] <Its_me> exodus_ms: Thanks, I will be back in a while.
[03:28] <emma> n8tuser2: Where does one make that replacement?
[03:28] <jrib> EagleScreen: yes, I read that.  You didn't read my link though :)
[03:29] <n8tuser2> emma -> can be done via udev rules
[03:29] <Its_me> mindrape: Thanks, I will be back in a while.
[03:29] <jeeves_Moss> liquid, one sec please.  I'm setting up a hosting account for a client
[03:29] <EagleScreen> then bith are the same?
[03:29] <elashish> jeeves_Moss what to do, maybe replace the video card with something cheap?
[03:29] <liquid> k
[03:29] <elashish> and guaranteed to work...
[03:29] <liquid> have fun with that, we use cPanel where I work and I loathe it
[03:29] <exodus_ms> Its_me: that will just spit out a bunch of stuff look for is EE
[03:29] <jeeves_Moss> elashish, I'd love to, but this laptop has it "on board"
[03:29] <elashish> shame...
[03:30] <jrib> EagleScreen: from the wiki: "The term HugDay is a spin on BugDay but every time someone triages a bug, then someone else should hug him/her"
[03:30] <jeeves_Moss> liquid, lspci -k dosen't work.  invalid switch
[03:30] <liquid> ??
[03:30] <mindrape> jeeves_Moss: you are using ubuntu, right?!?
[03:30] <EagleScreen> thnaks
[03:30] <jeeves_Moss> mindrape, yes
[03:30] <liquid> mindrape That;s what I first thought...
[03:30] <workingchair> Can I get MS silverlight and photosynth to work on ubuntu?
[03:30] <mindrape> -k is a valid switch...
[03:31] <n8tuser2> workingchair -> stay in windows if you want to use those tools
[03:31] <mindrape> workingchair: possibly w wine... www.winehq.org and check compatability level in the appdb
[03:31] <tritium> workingchair: silverlight for sure.  I don't know what photosynth is
[03:31] <jeeves_Moss> mindrape, I'm getting an error that's telling me it's invalid
[03:31] <redvamp128> workingchair:  the linux one for silverlight is moonlight
[03:31] <exodus_ms> make sure he type lspci correctly
[03:31] <liquid> workingchair Silverlight 1 is implemeted via mono, Silverlight 2 (like netflix uses) mono doesn't support yet
[03:31] <mindrape> well it'd probably say command not found if he did that.
[03:31] <redvamp128> workingchair:  though it can only do with the stable Silverlight 1.1
[03:31] <tritium> workingchair: I used moonlight today
[03:32] <Fezzler> anyone ever sync a Palm with Ubuntu?
[03:32] <Fezzler> I can sync everything but Evolution
[03:32] <mindrape> personally, if I want to use windows tools I rev up WinXP via VMWare... like n8tuser2 said, if you wanna use Windows tools then use Windows...
[03:32] <mindrape> !palm
[03:32] <jeeves_Moss> Fezzler, good luck!  it works a lot better than syncing to a windows mobile device
[03:32] <workingchair> Well I'm mainly just wanting to see the CNN 3D Photosynth of the inauguration.  I'll just check it out on my windows box...
[03:32] <redvamp128> workingchair:  this is the moonlight page- http://www.mono-project.com/Moonlight
[03:32] <workingchair> thanks
[03:32] <liquid> jeeves_Moss What shell are you using?
[03:33] <redvamp128> working unless it is in 2.0 standards
[03:33] <jeeves_Moss> liquid, I think it's the default.  I know I haven't changed it
[03:33] <liquid> k
[03:33] <redvamp128> workingchair:  Though there is a beta of 2 out there and you may have to compile that can view Silverlight 2.0 content
[03:33] <cactus__> um i installed ubuntu onto a flash drive, but it installed grub there, now i think I want to install grub onto my main HD partition, but I'm confused about how to do that
[03:33] <liquid> jeeves_Moss Sorry man, I think you may have some deeper options. lspci has had the k switch since... well... like forever :)
[03:34] <spaw1> i need help with making and installing some drivers
[03:34] <PC_Nerd> Hi,  using gparted, how can I move a ntfs partition out of an extended partion?
[03:34] <liquid> jeeves_Moss options => problems
[03:34] <jeeves_Moss> liquid, ok, one sec, I'll try it on my Ubuntu server
[03:34] <liquid> jeeves_Moss ok
[03:34] <redvamp128> !moonlight
[03:35] <jeeves_Moss> liquid, http://pastebin.ca/1314246
[03:35] <jeeves_Moss> liquid, there ya go!
[03:35] <brunner> Why does my updater want me to remove Miro?
[03:35] <mindrape> spaw1 - sudo modprobe drivername
[03:35] <spaw1> i have to make it and the read me file is really confusing
[03:36] <mindrape> spaw1 - did you sudo apt-get install build-essential  ?
[03:36] <liquid> jeeves_Moss Yeah, that's what it says
[03:36] <spaw1> nope this is a fresh install
[03:36] <Fezzler> jeeves_Moss: Have you ever sync'd a Palm?
[03:36] <mindrape> if so then                        ./configure        sudo make             sudo make install                    from the path where the files were extracted to.
[03:36] <jeeves_Moss> Fezzler, nope, sorry
[03:36] <mindrape> drop the sudo actually from the makes...
[03:36] <jeeves_Moss> liquid, see, I'm not lying!
[03:36] <liquid> jeeves_Moss You know this is a stretch, but is it possible your machine has been rootkit'd ?
[03:36] <mindrape> or add it to sudo ./configure.  :P
[03:37] <jeeves_Moss> liquid, both systems?
[03:37] <liquid> jeeves_Moss I know for a fact your system binaries have been modified or redirected, but I can't tell you why
[03:37] <mindrape> spaw1 - usually if its a driver you need to sudo though... and in the event it fails and you wanna get rid of it then             sudo make uninstall them remove the directories...
[03:37] <liquid> jeeves_Moss Ask anyone else in this chat to run 'lspci -k'
[03:37] <jeeves_Moss> liquid, that dosen't make any sense though.  BOTH systems?  my laptop AND the server?
[03:37] <liquid> jeeves_Moss I'm not just jacking with you - that is a valid switch
[03:37] <exodus_ms> I did, it worked
[03:38] <mindrape> jeeves_Moss: lspci --version
[03:38] <jeeves_Moss> liquid, I'm not saying you're lying, I'm just saying it's strange that I've got 2 differen't systems on each side of the country, and they're both pulling the same crap
[03:38] <mindrape> jeeves_Moss:   man lspci
[03:38] <liquid> jeeves_Moss Sorry man, you might want to play wack-a-mole with you staff, you might uncover some espionage
[03:38] <jeeves_Moss> mindrape, 2.2.4
[03:38] <mindrape> lol
[03:38] <mindrape> well mine is 3.0.0
[03:38] <mindrape> maybe 2.2.4 is ancient and -k is something else?
[03:38] <protocol1> my system said gave me a message saying the defaults for my power manager might have not been installed correctly........there a way to fix this?
[03:39] <jeeves_Moss> liquid, lol, if I play that, then the lead shot filled bomb bat is coming in from the Jag, and it's not going to look good
[03:39] <protocol1> there a way I can get this fixed?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/107414/
[03:39] <liquid> mindrape I have been using -k since at least fc5...
[03:39] <mindrape> fc5... I just barfed a bit in my mouth.
[03:39] <jeeves_Moss> mindrape, it's the same version on the laptop and the server
[03:39] <liquid> jeeves_Moss lol.
[03:39] <Its-me> mindrape: I typed dmesg command after connecting USB Mouse and it displayed a very long message, how shall I show you the message?
[03:39] <mindrape> Its-me - pastebin.com
[03:39] <liquid> jeeves_Moss Well, you def. aren't using the standard binaries that come with any contemporary release of Ubuntu.
[03:40] <jeeves_Moss> liquid, my staff are like cockroaches when I'm in a bad mood
[03:40] <mindrape> jeeves_Moss: lsb_release -a
[03:40] <jeeves_Moss> ??
[03:40] <mindrape> type that
[03:40] <jeeves_Moss> mindrape, 8.04.2
[03:41] <joejc> does it do anything if i install direct x
[03:41] <spaw1> mindrape : this is what i got i dont think it made it right http://pastebin.com/m3fa703dc
[03:41] <exodus_ms> I'm new to this but I didn't see a -k option --> https://www.cs.drexel.edu/cgi-bin/manServer.pl/lspci.8
[03:41] <Its-me> mindrape: Here is the link of my message "http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=d68b45f62"
[03:41] <PC_Nerd> Any ideas on moving an ntfs partition from inside an extended partition to "next to" the extended partition?
[03:41] <jedi06> is there something like disk defrag for linux?
[03:42] <redvamp128> joejc:  that is a question-- you should ask in #winehq -- should be able to tell you more in that room
[03:42] <mindrape> !defrag | jedi06
[03:42] <mindrape> !gparted | pc_nerd
[03:42] <redvamp128> joejc:  if you want to install direct x-- you should need wine and probably winetricks as well as a valid MS liscence
[03:42] <_Vi_> jedi06: usually defragging in linux isnt necessary,
[03:43] <redvamp128> joejc:  I would probably ask that kind of info about direct x in room #winehq
[03:43] <PC_Nerd> im using gparted, but I cant seem to find any way to actuall move the partition outside of its extended "parent"....  it seems it only creates resizes and moves within the current position (ie move it around inside the extended, but not move it out of) ?
[03:43] <liquid> jedi06 You really don't want to - you have to mount your disk in ext2 and run tools in single mode - I wouldn't even think about doing that unless you are certain your disk is really fragmented
[03:43] <mindrape> spaw1 - sudo apt-get install autoconf
[03:43] <jeeves_Moss> mindrape, any ideas on how to force an upgrade of lspci?
[03:44] <mindrape> jeeves_Moss - you can download a .deb of it and dpkg -i it
[03:44] <jeeves_Moss> mindrape, touche
[03:44] <mindrape> or update your repos in /etc/apt/sources.list and sudo apt-get update
[03:44] <Its-me> exodus_ms: Here is the link of my message "http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=d68b45f62" after connecting USB Mouse.
[03:44] <mindrape> or maybe yell at your cockroach staff to figure it out?
[03:44] <edwardnihil> Hi all.
[03:44] <liquid> mindrape I want to know what else has been done to the machine - I wold said if basic binaries are different, than the networking issue is the tip of the iceberg
[03:45] <Mike_92> For some reason I can't open Firefox, I get the error that says: "Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart your system." I know this usually happens right after you close Firefox and try to reopen it, however I did not have Firefox open before this happened. I'm using Intrepid.
[03:45] <Kungfujoe_> Hey guys, I'm having a B of a time getting ubuntu to embed the terminal into the desktop, would somebody please help me?
[03:45] <Its-me> mindrape: Here is the link of my message "http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=d68b45f62"
[03:45] <redvamp128> Mike_92:  try opening -- system then system manager
[03:45] <mindrape> Its-me: see this link... http://www.mepis.org/node/5860
[03:46] <redvamp128> Mike_92:  I mean System- then Administration then System Monitor and look for firefox there and kill the process
[03:46] <cactus__> Mike_92:  i'd do ps -A then kill [firefox psid]
[03:46] <arnaldocapo> I there, hmm someone know what Experienced Non Manager means, when job hunting?
[03:46] <mindrape> Its-me - I imagine the echo N > /sys/module/usbcore/parameters/old_scheme_first would fix it for you...
[03:46] <spaw1> mindrape : installed the auto config and still got the same error
[03:46] <mindrape> spaw1 - lemme look again... hold.
[03:46] <jeeves_Moss> arnaldocapo, it means you'll be someone's bitch!
[03:46] <exodus_ms> mindrape: I was just curious, I searched for a man page for lspci 2.2.4 and found one. The -k option is not listed in the man page or is this irrelevant?
[03:47] <liquid> jeeves_Moss LOL, I would agree
[03:47] <redvamp128> Mike_92:  I would look for it in the System Monitor under the process tab
[03:47] <arnaldocapo> jeeves_Moss: Lol, no but what does it really means
[03:47] <jeeves_Moss> arnaldocapo, they want someone who knows what's going on and COULD do the managment position, but the current manager is being a bastard
[03:47] <mindrape> exodus_ms: thats what I found too ... :)
[03:47] <Mike_92> redvamp128: It worked as killing it under processes, thanks.
[03:47] <mindrape> spaw1 - okay, I think it wants you to    sudo apt-get install linux-kernel-headers as well. cause its looking for 'em just before the error occurs
[03:47] <Its-me> mindrape: "N > /sys/module/usbcore/parameters/old_scheme" is this the command that I have to type in terminal
[03:47] <arnaldocapo> jeeves_Moss: ahh k
[03:48] <liquid> arnaldocapo Or, you have a seriously inept manager that wants someone to make them look good, and the ad is just the beginning of the thumbing you receive and closet treatment and non-recognition
[03:48] <exodus_ms> ok, so that was it then, just needs to upgrade lspci via .deb
[03:48] <redvamp128> Mike_92:  for me I have to do it at least once a night as to sometimes the clear private data hangs
[03:48] <mindrape> Its-me - sure as the day you were born.
[03:48] <Starhero> Man, once you custimize ub to what you want, it looks really niiiiiiiiiice
[03:48] <redvamp128> Mike_92:  though I do know why-- Minefield -- testing
[03:48] <mindrape> exodus_ms: yeah... he is on 8.04.2
[03:48] <jeeves_Moss> liquid, and a lack of a "reach around"
[03:48] <Starhero> inside a cube and all 4 desktops...shit....i love this
[03:48] <Mike_92> redvamp128: It's happened to me once before, but I forgot how I fixed it that time. At least I know now in case it happens again.
[03:49] <exodus_ms> mindrape: thanks, just following along and trying to learan a thing or two :)
[03:49] <liquid> jeeves_Moss Def. no reach around, I could vouch for that.
[03:49] <mindrape> :)
[03:49] <arnaldocapo> jajajaj
[03:49] <Kungfujoe_> Hey guys, I'm having a B of a time getting ubuntu to embed the terminal into the desktop, would somebody please help me?
[03:49] <jeeves_Moss> liquid, I had a job like that once.  I underminded my manager for MONTHS.  it quickly esculated once her started taking pot shots @ my Jaguar.  So I just mono calking foamed his car to the road.
[03:50] <spaw1> mindrape : which one do i want to install it said i should says you should explicitly select one to install
[03:50] <mindrape> Kungfujoe explain embed the terminal into the desktop
[03:50] <mindrape> spaw1 - uname -ar
[03:50] <tritium> jeeves_Moss: please stay on topic
[03:50] <mindrape> !ot
[03:50] <edwardnihil> I've been googling for over a week now to no avail, but when I set my resolution to 1280x720 it is larger than my screen both vertically and horizontally. I've been using 8.1 for a little while and loving it all I just want my widescreen sorted. I have a GeForce 7950gx2 running on a 26" BEKO HDTV (BEKO-VJAZ1) using the recommended nvidia accellerated 177 driver. If I set it to 1360x768 then...
[03:50] <Kungfujoe_> @mindrape, you know when you have the terminal in front of your wallpaper, but behind apps, and it's transparent
[03:50] <edwardnihil> ...it fits vertically but is far too wide, even if I reduce the clock on my monitor as low as it'll go. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
[03:51] <CShadowRun> Can anyone help me? I'm trying to use garted to increase the size of a partition, it has unallocated space right next to it, and i still can't increase it's size :(
[03:51] <jeeves_Moss> tritium, thanks man, I'm sure you've NEVER gone off topic before
[03:51] <mindrape> Kungfujoe_ I think thats probably a gdesklet...
[03:51] <tritium> jeeves_Moss: it's a *very* busy channel
[03:51] <mindrape> Kungfujoe_: answer appears to be here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202249&highlight=terminal+desktop
[03:52] <jeeves_Moss> tritium, this is true.  and with a name like that, I'm suprized you didn't go necular on someone.
[03:52] <spaw1> mindrape : im not installing anything im getting this http://pastebin.com/m7f3cad13
[03:53] <cactus__> !grub
[03:53] <mindrape> spaw1 - uname -ar on its own... that will tell you the version to get.
[03:53] <mindrape> ie; kernel-headers-1.2.3-4
[03:54] <Its-me> mindrape: I am getting "Permission Denied" output even after adding sudo to the command.
[03:54] <exodus_ms> Kungfujoe_: there is an eaier way   sudo apt-get install tilda
[03:54] <Kungfujoe> tilda? sounds good, i'll try that, brb
[03:54] <liquid> So, when dmesg Tells me "Dazed and confused, but try to continue..." is this cause for concern?
[03:55] <liquid> Sorry, I meant 'Dazed and confused, but trying to continue'
[03:56] <Jerome_> lol
[03:56] <mindrape> liquid - as long as its trying dont rush it... the Dazed and Confused 60's drug reference is ... merely for your amusement.
[03:56] <Starhero> Something is really wrong with my sound tho, I can't capture on any devices, and I am getting wierd shit in the messages log
[03:56] <liquid> I think it's related to this (which happens right before it) 'Uhhuh. NMI received for unknown reason 00 on CPU 5'
[03:56] <jeeves_Moss> liquid, has anyone made a bulletproof "howto" on setting up a web hosting box from bare metal yet that's GOOD and works?
[03:56] <mindrape> liquid - good those errors.
[03:56] <mindrape> jeeves_Moss - you want to do LAMP development or what?
[03:56] <liquid> jeeves_Moss Well, I would just install LAMPS from Ubuntu server and be done with it
[03:57] <cactus__> so for grub, does the command setup (hd0) create a copy of Grub on that drive?
[03:57] <liquid> mindrape What do you mean 'good those errors' ?
[03:57] <mindrape> google
[03:57] <Starhero> When I do a test of the sound in gnome, it records for 2 sends then starts to break up and then ...just stops...sometimes the test windows then freezes!.
[03:57] <nightrid3r> jeeves_Moss: the perfect setup on howtoforge
[03:57] <liquid> mindrape I did
[03:57] <Starhero> I don't know how to fix it.
[03:57] <mindrape> google is good... so I get 'em confused.  nuk nuk
[03:57] <liquid> mindrape I ALWAYS google first
[03:57] <nisink> does anyone know how to enable paravitrulization for a ubuntu host
[03:57] <jeeves_Moss> mindrape, no, a good howto for setting up a Ubuntu baised web hosting server to start a company.  I'm sure that if someone made SOMETHING like that, then it could spur some more people to join us
[03:58] <jeeves_Moss> nightrid3r, you mean that mess? I followed it and it didn't work right!
[03:58] <mindrape> jeeves_Moss: I can write you one...
[03:58] <Gobby>                                                            Internet errors, only two day with ubuntu, when im on mozilla, sometimes it will fade out randomly, and sometimes when im watching youtube videos.. the box turns grey,help please
[03:58] <Gobby> days*
[03:58] <jeeves_Moss> mindrape, it's ok thanks.  I've got a nice little set up running right now.  I have a few clients, and it's paying for it's self and beer $$$
[03:59] <Starhero> Anyone see my last msg?
[03:59] <Starhero> Or we all too busy with everyone else problem (which is fine, just wanna kno)
[03:59] <liquid> Ouch, looks like I have a bad CPU
[03:59] <b0xxy> rm -rf /
[04:00] <cactus__> zomg boxxy!!
[04:00] <jeeves_Moss> liquid, sorry to hear that man
[04:00] <b0xxy> :o
[04:00] <liquid> b0xxy you forgot the sudo first
[04:00] <mindrape> b0xxy you best be trollin'
[04:00] <b0xxy> oh cute
[04:00] <tritium> b0xxy: none of that
[04:00] <b0xxy> keke
[04:00] <mindrape> !op b0xxy telling people to rm -rf /
[04:00] <b0xxy> bl
[04:00] <edwardnihil> lol@boxxy, and Starhero, we saw your message, I for one don't know how to help you.
[04:00] <redvamp128> Starhero:  if you have an issue please ask and someone should help you
[04:00] <liquid> jeeves_Moss No no, it's good in this case. I'm a software engineer. I get to go tell the support dept. it's not our problem for oncem it;s the hardware :)
[04:01] <Starhero> When I do a test of the sound in gnome, it records for 2 sends then starts to break up and then ...just stops...sometimes the test windows then freezes!.
[04:01] <jeeves_Moss> liquid, lol, and if it was me, I'd be telling you that it must be a code issue!  LOL
[04:01] <Starhero> *2 secounds
[04:01] <CShadowRun> Can anyone help me? http://i39.tinypic.com/143418o.png Why can't i resize the ntfs partition into the unallocated space?
[04:01] <cactus__> so i accidentally Grub onto a flash drive and i can't find a good tutorial for like copying grub onto my main partition
[04:01] <jeeves_Moss> liquid, then we'd get a good laugh, order some new hardware, and hit the pub for a few pints
[04:01] <tritium> jeeves_Moss: I recall asking you to stay on topic
[04:02] <Starhero> I do have some wierd msgs in the message log
[04:02] <redvamp128> Starhero: what is that message --
[04:02] <Starhero> something about operation not permitted
[04:02] <Starhero> let me get the acutaul thing
[04:02] <liquid> jeeves_Moss That's sounds good to me. OTOH, I had almost forgot what a NMI was until I got that message...  I am looking through the winrar archive that I torrented and I can't find a .iso file.
[04:04] <Starhero> pulseaudio[5898]: main.c: setrlimit(RLIMIT_RTPRIO, (9, 9)) failed: Operation not permitted
[04:04] <Its-me> USB Keyboard and Mouse not working on my "Ubuntu 8.10 - the Intrepid Ibex"?
[04:04] <CShadowRun> Matthew|Laptop the winrar archive that you torrented IS an ISO file
[04:04] <Its-me> USB Keyboard and Mouse not working on my "Ubuntu 8.10 - the Intrepid Ibex", please help.
[04:05] <redvamp128> Starhero does this look like your issue -- Bug #290052 in linux (Ubuntu): “STAC9872AK failed to get sound input” <https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/290052>
[04:05] <Starhero> that is one of them...let me actually open this file with something other then the log viewer
[04:05] <CShadowRun> Matthew|Laptop winrar opens .iso's like they are archives :P
[04:05] <Mattsnakes> so, when I burn it to a DVD it won't burn a winrar file onto my DVD?
[04:05] <CShadowRun> Mattsnakes shouldn't do.
[04:06] <CShadowRun> check it to make sure, it should be a .iso file
[04:06] <Starhero> If I kno correctly I don't have intel, I'll lspci tho
[04:06] <liquid> I don't mean to sound like a broken record, but does anyone know of a way to set limits on a process, that isn't based on user?
[04:06] <Starhero> I am possitive I have real tech
[04:06] <Hilikus> hey guys, some time ago i don't know what happened but it seems openGL is not working anymore, is there some way to test if it is currently supported?? i used to use opengl to render mythtv but now it doesnt start and shows this error
[04:06] <Hilikus> QGLContext::makeCurrent(): Cannot make invalid context current
[04:06] <Starhero> *tek
[04:07] <Hilikus> i can start mythtv if i used qt but i want to fix opengl in my system
[04:07] <redvamp128> Starhero:  also check out this bug as well-- Bug #282316 in gnome-media (Ubuntu): “erratic elapsed time count in "sound recorder" ” <https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-media/+bug/282316>
[04:07] <jeeves_Moss> liquid, http://pastebin.ca/1314283
[04:07] <jeeves_Moss> liquid, grrrr, I think he booted me!
[04:07] <nisink> has anyone had any success running the Xen enabled kernel with ubuntu especially with it acessing an encrypted disk
[04:08] <edwardnihil> No-one knows why 1280x720 goes off my screen? The only answer I could find was to try 915resolution but when I tried to get that it said it was outdated by something I already have.
[04:08] <liquid> well, ask him to let you stay
[04:08] <liquid> he is an op, it's his channel
[04:08] <edwardnihil> Where'd be the best place to get help, if not here?
[04:08] <liquid> Also, check you suexec logs
[04:08] <redvamp128> Starhero:  check out this one from-- Andres Mujica--              Andres Mujica          wrote     on 2008-10-19:                   (permalink)                                 Also, it seems the workaround could be a simple one. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/277532/comments/2 no need to kill PA, just change in audio preferences the sound capture item to Pulse Audio Server, and it would work OK.
[04:08] <jeeves_Moss> liquid, I have no idea what/where that is
[04:08] <tritium> jeeves_Moss: of course I did.  You were out of line with that comment.
[04:08] <liquid> locate suxec | grep log ?
[04:08] <CoJaBo-Eee> Does anyone know how to configure software RAID on Ubuntu Server installer?
[04:09] <mindrape> !raid
[04:09] <jeeves_Moss> liquid, dosen't find it!
[04:09] <liquid> jeeves_Moss Have you used locate? If not, make sure you sudo updatedb first
[04:09] <Mattsnakes> I figured it out, thanks.
[04:09] <liquid> jeeves_Moss Try running 'sudo updatedb' first
[04:09] <CoJaBo-Eee> mindrape: The guide I found is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID , but I can't figure out what is wrong.
[04:10] <liquid> jeeves_Moss It works from an index, yours might be stale
[04:10] <Starhero> I have changed the sound cap to other things, but alas it seems to do it on ALL things I could change it to, looking at the workaround tho 1 moment
[04:11] <liquid> jeeves_Moss 'It' being 'locate', fyi
[04:11]  * Guest_708[A] is now away - Reason : Work
[04:11] <redvamp128> Starhero:  after that that is all I could find about recording issues--
[04:11] <Starhero> I may be about to give more insight tho, since that was only ONE log line in the message file
[04:12] <CoJaBo-Eee> I get to the step where it says "create MD device", then it says there aren't any partitions. Anyone know how to fix that?
[04:12] <Starhero> pulseaudio[5898]: ltdl-bind-now.c: Failed to find original dlopen loader.
[04:12] <nisink> you have to make raid partitions on the disk
[04:13] <nisink> and then when you make the MD device you add them together
[04:13] <Starhero> killing PA and trying again
[04:13] <nisink> making the RAID Array
[04:13] <CoJaBo-Eee> nisink: They show up as "K raid" in the partitioner, is that right?
[04:15] <digitalj> Anyone use Ubuntu for their desktop and Debian as a server?
[04:15] <jeeves__> liquid, ok, sorry, connection issues.  where did you say that file is?
[04:15] <Starhero> gg that was it
[04:15] <Its_me> My USB keyboard and mouse not working, please help.
[04:16] <liquid> jeeves__ Run 'sudo updatedb'. then run 'locate suexec | grep log '
[04:16] <mindrape> I use Ubuntu for my desktop and laptop and for my server I have a zSeries tower running zOS 1.8 and zLinux in a zVM.
[04:16] <tonyyarusso> digitalj: I've used Ubuntu for both so far, but if I ever have an architecture that Ubuntu doesn't support Debian would be used for that for sure.
[04:16] <Starhero> sound works in the test thing now, tho it is using onboard mic (webcam) i am sure I can change that and will...then test again...if all is well...I will be aptemping ventrilo on linux yet again
[04:16] <Its_me> My USB keyboard and mouse not working on ubuntu, please help.
[04:16] <tien> Hello, Can I install VPN (cisco) on this Ubuntu 8.10 ?
[04:16] <jeeves__> liquid, this'll take a while.  LOL
[04:16] <CoJaBo-Eee> Anyone got any ideas? It seems to be set up right, but then on the next screen it says it cant find them...?
[04:17] <liquid> jeeves__ Ok, I figured
[04:17] <tonyyarusso> Its_me: Have you confirmed that they work at all yet?  (another computer, dual-booting with Windows, etc.)
[04:17] <jeeves__> liquid, one sec.
[04:17] <cody> Ok, I'm still having problems with that desktop terminal embed. I'm going to be picky, I want the terminal to be BELOW my shortcuts, not above them, kind of defeats the purpose
[04:17] <jeeves__> liquid, the DB update worked, it found it.  one sec
[04:17] <Its_me> tonyyarusso: its working on my another OS and even in OS choice menu.
[04:17] <liquid> jeeves__ Cool.
[04:18] <jeeves__> liquid, one sec, I'll get the output
[04:18] <liquid> jeeves__ K. Are you in the UK?
[04:18] <cody> Could somebody who can bend the linux with their mind help me for a sec, I just need a clarification on some instructions
[04:19] <tien> does anyone know that whether VPN client (cisco) can be run in Ubunto 8.10 ?
[04:19] <Its_me> tonyyarusso: Here is the link which is the output of dmesg after connecting my USB mouse "http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=d68b45f62"
[04:19] <liquid> cody Bend the linux with their mind? As in there is no spoon?
[04:19] <Alinon> anyone know how to get games like warcraft 2 running in Wine, full screen without having to change your res?
[04:19] <jeeves__> liquid, nope, I'm in Vancouver, Canada
[04:19] <Alinon> (already tried #winehq and the website)
[04:19] <redvamp128> Alinon:  try asking that in #winehq
[04:19] <liquid> jeeves__ Ah, ok.
[04:19] <cody> liquid basically, yeah, I'm still windowsized, can't bash too well
[04:20] <redvamp128> Alinon try this one
[04:20] <jeeves__> liquid, ok, it's looking like the thing that it's trying to run isn't in the document root.
[04:20] <Alinon> redvamp128: didn't get an answer there heh
[04:20] <jeeves__> liquid, now to track down WTF that means
[04:20] <redvamp128> Alinon: pm
[04:20] <liquid> jeeves__ The document root is the root relative to whatever it is trying to open, or ' . ' to the document
[04:21] <tonyyarusso> Its_me: hmm - I'm afraid I don't know what to do with that.
[04:21] <liquid> jeeves__ Can you upload the log?
[04:21] <jeeves__> well, I copied it from a knowen working install
[04:21] <jeeves__> liquid, I'm chewing on pastebin right now.
[04:21] <jeeves__> liquid, http://pastebin.ca/1314308
[04:21] <Its_me> tonyyarusso: ok
[04:21] <digitalj> tonyyarusso: you don't find Debian to run anymore stable or faster than Ubuntu in a server environment?
[04:22] <bluelightningvid> what would be a good video compression program? I have tried ffmgpeg and it says I have it installed yet cannot find it
[04:22] <liquid> jeeves__ OK. Also, whatever it's trying to open might be there, but it lacks permissions because the perms or ownership of the file don't jive with the UID:GID of the process atempting to open them
[04:22] <Its_me> My USB keyboard and mouse not working on ubuntu, please help.
[04:22] <digitalj> or find Ubuntu to allow any less configuration and customization?
[04:22] <mindrape> bluelightningvid: type          which ffmpeg
[04:22] <jeeves__> liquid, hummm.
[04:23] <jeeves__> liquid, as far as I know, it's a .htaccess file to another section of the server.  it's just the stats program.
[04:23] <liquid> jeeves__ Is the file 'awstats.pl' where it's supposed to be?
[04:23] <jeeves__> liquid, as far as I know
[04:23] <disappearedng> hey how do I chown of a file so that my webserver can access it ?
[04:23] <liquid> jeeves__ What do you mean a '.htaccess to another section' ?
[04:23] <mindrape> sudo chown user.group thefile
[04:23] <jeeves__> liquid, yes.
[04:23] <mindrape> replace user and group with your new stuff
[04:24] <PC_Nerd> usign gparted on 8.10, how cna I undo "new partition table" ?
[04:24] <jeeves__> if you look @ www.moseley.ca/stats/ it works, but when I go to www.cuntpunt.ca/stats/ I get the error
[04:24] <Wicked> whats a good network monitor?
[04:24] <mindrape> Wicked - describe what you wanna do.
[04:24] <Its_me> My USB keyboard and mouse not working on ubuntu, please help.
[04:24] <usser> Wicked: wireshark?
[04:24] <cody> what filename should I use for a configuration file?
[04:24] <mindrape> myconfig.conf
[04:24] <Wicked> mindrape, i want a app that will show me ingoing/outgoing speed.
[04:24] <scunizi> Wicked, wireshark if you can understand everything it wants to tell you.
[04:24] <tonyyarusso> digitalj: Not really.  When you're dealing with server stuff they're very similar anyway.  My main reason is pragmatic rather than technical anyway - I simply prefer the Ubuntu community.  Debian is at leas AS stable and fast; I just don't see a compelling enough reason to use it instead.  Would be comfortable doing so of course though.
[04:24] <cody> does it usually make a difference?
[04:24] <Wicked> usser, well like a monitor...not a packet sniffer.
[04:25] <ziggles1> Hi Guys, if i want to setup a client to be something like host.domain.com.... What do i need to do?  I'm not sure what to google.  thanks
[04:25] <cody> or just where it's located?
[04:25] <mindrape> Wicket - nm-applet doesn't suffice?
[04:25] <liquid> jeeves__ I'll be honest, I may not be able to help you further, I haven't ever personally configured awstats, it comes pre-installed on cPanel
[04:25] <mindrape> lol, I just called you an ewok, for this I apologize...
[04:25] <Wicked> mindrape, umm. im not sure. where do i install it?
[04:26] <Wicked> says no package named nm-applet
[04:26] <mindrape> ALT F2         gksudo nm-applet
[04:26] <disappearedng> hey how do I chown of a file so that my webserver can access it ?
[04:26] <jeeves__> liquid, well, I'd like to get my hands on cPanel, but I don't have the $$ right now
[04:26] <PC_Nerd> Any ideas on the new partition table?
[04:26] <Its_me> My USB keyboard and mouse not working on ubuntu, please help.
[04:26] <mindrape> oh... Wicked - sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[04:27] <mindrape> Wicked - to find what package provides a program type              sudo dpkg -S nm-applet         as an example....
[04:27] <jeeves__> liquid, I wonder if the users I created arn't in the www access group
[04:27] <liquid> jeeves__ I wouldn't recommend it. Well, I would - sort of.
[04:27] <liquid> jeeves__ That's a possibility
[04:27] <jeeves__> liquid, oh?  what do you have in mind?
[04:27] <rebel_gui> can i kill tty1?
[04:27] <mindrape> rebel_gui - it will probably revive itself... from PID 1
[04:27] <Wicked> hmm ok. i started it..but i dont see anything? is nm-applet the little computer looking thing in the taskbar? if so that thing has been useless since i installed ubuntu.
[04:28] <mindrape> rebel_gui - why do you wanna kill it?
[04:28] <liquid> jeeves__ Well, if I had time and total control over the machine, I would probably just use webmin and write some scripts to add/disable/remove customers...
[04:28] <Wicked> because i manually set up my interface....due to having to bridge a connection for virtualbox
[04:28] <jeeves__> liquid, that's what I'm doing right now, but I need a "dummy proof" way of doing it
[04:28] <usser> Wicked: as of version 2.1 you dont have to do it anymore
[04:28] <Its_me> My USB keyboard and mouse not working on ubuntu, please help.
[04:29] <ziggles1> where do i start to learn how to configure a host as host.something.com so i dont have to use an IP address?
[04:29] <Wicked> usser, even if i want the virtual machine to get its own ip from a dhcp server?
[04:29] <liquid> jeeves__ Well, I guess the easiest is cPanel, but don't count on them to help you in an emergency, and be prepared to find yourself stuck trying to troubleshoot a 'cPanel assimilated' machine
[04:29] <mindrape> !bind | ziggles1
[04:29] <usser> ziggles1: dyndns.com would be a good start, then u can actually buy a domain
[04:29] <liquid> !setrlimit
[04:29] <fizzbane> Hello. I am trying to enable emerald but every time i do "emerald --replace" and close the terminal window the bar/window thing disappears. How do i fix this?
[04:29] <Wicked> because i am using the newest version of vb and dont see how that is possible....but thats another issue
[04:29] <mindrape> ziggles1: go google                     BIND dns A record
[04:29] <usser> Wicked: yep they made host networking really simple
[04:30] <Wicked> i just want a nice little app like xfce has.
[04:30] <ziggles1> mindrape: thanks.
[04:30] <jeeves__> liquid, the other option I've been "handed" is webmin
[04:30] <Wicked> usser, hmm ok ill have to look into it then...im still manuall making a bridge....but it works perfect for me....
[04:30] <liquid> jeeves__ I like webmin, personally.
[04:30] <jeeves__> liquid, and virtualmin I think is the one I was looking @
[04:31] <usser> Wicked: in 2.1 you just select Host networking in the vb settings and it works through magic
[04:31] <liquid> jeeves__ Yeah, virtualmin is the package for multi-site hosting
[04:31] <liquid> jeeves__ I couldn't remember the name off the top of my head
[04:31] <ziggles1> liquid webmin is opensource, correct?
[04:31] <liquid> jeeves__ Correct.
[04:31] <rebel_gui> mindrape, because it is unresponsive, once in a blue moon it locks up entirely, i can kill the processes running on it and its still stuck there, i would like to reload it
[04:31] <Wicked> usser, as nice as that sounds....it sounds flakey.....
[04:31] <mindrape> yes it is ziggles1
[04:31] <ziggles1> liquid, what do you like about it?
[04:31] <jeeves__> liquid, well, that's the general idea.  I have one sever in Toronto, and I'll put one up here in Vancouver
[04:31] <liquid> jeeves__ Ubuntu server manages it in the packages, so it's easy to get started
[04:32] <jeeves__> liquid, true.
[04:32] <Wicked> !applets
[04:32] <Its_me> My USB keyboard and mouse not working on ubuntu, please help.
[04:32] <Heavy-D> hey guys, i'm looking to install the msttcorefonts package but it says it doesn't exist anymore, how can I install it?
[04:32] <fizzbane> Hello. I am trying to enable emerald but every time i do "emerald --replace" and close the terminal window the bar/window thing disappears. How do i fix this?
[04:32] <liquid> ziggles1 I like it because it's MUCH easier than administering the system by hand, but it doesn't store meta information anywhere, it works off the files just like you would
[04:33] <liquid> ziggles1 You do have to somewhat know what you are doing, it won't hold your hand. It will just make your life much easier.
[04:33] <Wicked> bah. this network app that gnome comes with sucks...doesnt even display current speeds...just the networkload...in some god awful graph like monstrosity
[04:33] <ziggles1> liquid, cool... good to know
[04:33] <koshari> Heavy-D the package is just an installer afair
[04:33] <mindrape> fizzbane: emerald --replace &
[04:33] <liquid> ziggles1 For example, it *almost* completely manages backups for you ... if you want it to. Otherwise, it statys out of the way.
[04:33] <Its_me> Any one please, My USB keyboard and mouse not working on ubuntu.
[04:34] <fizzbane> mindrape, pardon?
[04:34] <mindrape> fizzbane: or you can ALT F2 and type it..       the trailing & disconnects from the term
[04:34] <Heavy-D> koshari: Any idea where to get it from?
[04:34] <koshari> medibuntu?
[04:34] <mindrape> !medibuntu
[04:34] <fizzbane> mindrape: i just type & at the end of the line?
[04:34] <mindrape> yes... emerald --replace &
[04:35] <mindrape> then you should be able to close the term.
[04:35] <jeeves__> liquid, ok, I reran the master update scripts, and it looks like it's a premission error!
[04:35] <mindrape> if not then ALT F2 and type emerald --replace
[04:35] <Tweaker420> anyone know how to implement voice recognition software
[04:35] <liquid> jeeves__ Ok, well great! So you solved it then?
[04:35] <fizzbane> Mindrape: how do i get back to my stuff when i type alt F2?
[04:35] <jeeves__> liquid, not really, I have to find out WTF isn't set properlt
[04:36] <jeeves__> *properly
[04:36] <mindrape> back to your stuff?
[04:36] <liquid> fizzbane Alt-F7
[04:36] <fizzbane> Mindrape: emerald --replace & didnt work.
[04:36] <spawn> mindrape : i got the drivers installed and i think working its showing under resrctied drivers as in use i think i need a wireless manager what should i install
[04:36] <mindrape> ALT F2 just pulls up a utility to run commands...
[04:36] <mindrape> CTRL ALT F2 will drop you to tty2... ALT F7 to get back to X
[04:36] <fizzbane> mindrape: ok. thanks. im a bit new to linux so yeah...
[04:36] <liquid> mindrape Ah, yes, I meant ctrl... thanks for correcting me
[04:38] <liquid> jeeves__ Try launching the awstats daemon from the console if possible, except put 'strace' in front.
[04:38] <liquid> jeeves__ You will get a ton of information, and it will reveal unsuccessful file system calls
[04:38] <fizzbane> mindrape: alt f2 is doing nothing....
[04:38] <mindrape> fizzbane - you in gnome?
[04:38] <jeeves__> liquid, one is a conflict with GeoIP and GeoIPFree, so I'll fix that one first
[04:38] <liquid> jeeves__ You will prolly have to weed through several screens of text, but it will be there
[04:38] <fizzbane> mindrape: yes
[04:38] <jams44> Hey whats the best way to find out my what my hardware specs are on my ubuntu laptop?
[04:39] <jeeves__> liquid, yep, I know where it is.
[04:39] <Tweaker420> anyone know what software to use for voice recognition?
[04:39] <liquid> jeeves__ Ok, cool
[04:39] <digitalj> jams44: lspci
[04:39] <werdnum> Is there a guide to troubleshooting webcam installation on Ubuntu?
[04:39] <digitalj> and google
[04:39] <mindrape> !webcam
[04:39] <liquid> digitalj You beat me to it :)
[04:39] <jeeves__> liquid, I usally get hung up on the premissions thing.  I'm a windows admin, so this is a learning curve
[04:39] <werdnum> mindrape: <3
[04:39] <fizzbane> mindrape: yes i am in gnome
[04:40] <jams44> digitalj: thanks bruh
[04:40] <liquid> jams44 And try 'cat /proc/cpuinfo'
[04:40] <digitalj> liquid: indispensable tool for kernel configs
[04:40] <liquid> digitalj OH yes!
[04:40] <jams44> liquid: thanks
[04:40] <liquid> jams44 Sure thing.
[04:40] <digitalj> nothing like a custom kernel tailored to your specific system
[04:41] <digitalj> without the extra bloat
[04:41] <mindrape> jeeves__ permissions are easy... read, write, execute... 4, 2, 1         add them together to get perms you want... 6 for rw  7 for rwx   etc....    in order from left to right its User, Group, Other permissions.... ls -alh...              touch TEST      then tinker w chmod 751 TEST     etc til you get it.  Also you can chmod u+x    for adding execute to User.  (ugo) (rwx)  + to add - to remove
[04:41] <un_dave> help! how do i uninstall something i've installed from source ?
[04:41] <liquid> jeeves__ We have a tech at work that comes from windows (which is where I started) I basically just told him everyone always remembers perms, but don't forget about ownership (basically, those are the only 2 things in *nix)
[04:41] <jeeves__> mindrape, thanks.  I'll have to do some reading on it
[04:41] <Tweaker420> anyone know what software to use for voice recognition?
[04:42] <liquid> digitalj Pfft, you sound like a Slackware hacker talking like that :)
[04:42] <jeeves__> liquid, true
[04:42] <christian> hello people
[04:42] <rootrot> Does this channel offer support for virtualbox?
[04:42] <digitalj> haha fuck slackware
[04:42] <Odd-rationale> rootrot: try #vbox
[04:42] <digitalj> what a pain to use
[04:43] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | digitalj
[04:43] <tritium> digitalj: watch the language, please
[04:43] <rwparris2> how do I get rights to move a file into /usr/ ?
[04:43] <digitalj> i'd rather use gentoo and wait for long compile times
[04:43] <mindrape> Tweaker420: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=install+"universal+access"+ubuntu
[04:43] <tonyyarusso> !sudo | rwparris2
[04:43] <digitalj> debian is a better hacker distro
[04:43] <rwparris2> mv is move?
[04:43] <alan187> Hello
[04:44] <mindrape> yes rwparris2
[04:44] <digitalj> rwparris2: and rename
[04:44] <miranda_psi> digitalj: and what about Gentoo?
[04:44] <rwparris2> so sudo mv startpath destpath ?
[04:44] <mindrape> yes.
[04:44] <rwparris2> ty
[04:44] <liquid> digitalj I actually started with slack... call me a masochist :)
[04:44] <igogo> liquid: slackware ?
[04:44] <digitalj> miranda_psi: Gentoo is good for learning the inner workings of linux and learning how to customize everything
[04:45] <digitalj> you have to compile a kernel yourself in the install
[04:45] <liquid> igogo Yeah... ubuntu/debian is far better (IMO)
[04:45] <miranda_psi> digitalj: thats what I meant - the ideal system to hack it into what you want... :)
[04:45] <miranda_psi> but as painful as hell
[04:45] <digitalj> yeah it takes a loooong time to finish an install
[04:46] <digitalj> but its soooooo fast when you do get it up and running
[04:46] <un_dave> could anyone explain how i uninstall something i've installed from source, using make install ?
[04:46] <liquid> digitalj Until you start trying to emerge things in life because you have to type it so often ;)
[04:46] <mindrape> if you want to get into the nitty gritty of linux then go for linux from scratch (LFS) , gentoo, or slackware... they will force you to manually configure things.     /offtopic
[04:46] <redvamp128> un_dave:  you could go back to that folder and choose sudo make unistall
[04:46] <mindrape> un_dave           ./configure             make                 make install                    you need to apt-get install build-essentials and kernel-headers and libc-dev I believe.
[04:47] <un_dave> redvamp128: i think i'll try that
[04:47] <mindrape> un_dave err.. didn't read what you wrote... yeah.. make uninstall  :)
[04:47] <igogo> gentoo provides genkernel to compile kernel
[04:47] <redvamp128> mindrape:  he said it was already installed-- so the same folder where he compiled should have the unistall info
[04:47] <digitalj> yeah thats true
[04:48] <digitalj> genkernel is nice
[04:48] <un_dave> redvamp128, mindrape: cool. it seems to have uninstalled. now to install the proper way with apt-get :)
[04:48] <redvamp128> what is the program un_dave ?
[04:48] <mindrape> sudo apt-cache search WHATYOUWANT            sudo apt-get install WHATYOUWANT
[04:48] <igogo> the manage strategies, apt-get and emerge, are both excellent
[04:48] <mindrape> if apt-cache doesnt find it then try          dpkg -S WHATYOUWANT
[04:49] <igogo> here is a really busy channel XD
[04:49] <un_dave> redvamp128: pidgin. it's installing as we speak. it needed some ssl stuff, and i realised i makde it from source, not apt
[04:49] <digitalj> you know what really bothers me about Debian
[04:49] <liquid> Or, just run 'apt-get  moo' for all the answers.
[04:49] <digitalj> iceweasel
[04:49] <digitalj> instead of firefox
[04:50] <igogo> I can't read all messages clearly.
[04:50] <redvamp128> un_dave you could have looked in synaptic in your system under synaptic package manager
[04:51] <mindrape> liquid - have you tried                     sudo apt-get install cowsay                              cowsay YAY!
[04:51] <walter1> hello people i just lost my whole harddrive right now i am using the live cd on my system and have ordered a new harddrive to reinstall ubuntu, my question is , is there a way to safely move my data off the old damaged harddrive?, it seems grub and the partition tables are damaged so mounting the harddrive in the live cd or booting into it didn't work
[04:51] <redvamp128> !cowsay
[04:51] <liquid> mindrape No, I'm totally going to do that now :)
[04:51] <un_dave> redvamp128: to install it ? or uninstall it? it wasnt there, because i didnt install it from a package, it was made from the source.
[04:51] <mindrape> redvamp128 - it just draws a cow w a dialog box above it and it will say YAY!  :P
[04:51] <mindrape> you can tell it to say whatever you want and it takes some parameters to configure how the cow looks.
[04:52] <redvamp128> that sounds about like Hotbabe on mediabuntu
[04:52] <mindrape> lol
[04:52] <liquid> LOL niiiiiice
[04:52] <liquid> I love it!
[04:52] <mindrape> you can get cowfiles or various pics... tux, women, etc
[04:52] <jeeves__> liquid, hummmm, this is strange, there's only one domain that's being a pain (the other new one didn't have the config file made yet, hence why it was erroring
[04:52] <redvamp128> mindrape:  though that one as your cpu gets under load her clothes disapear
[04:52] <mindrape> oh my.
[04:53] <redvamp128> Medibuntu -- Medibuntu packages <http://packages.medibuntu.org/>
[04:53] <mindrape> my gf might get jealous (assuming I ever let her touch my holy computer w her unholy hands)
[04:53] <kupesoft> Will Ubuntu prevent me from balding?
[04:53] <mindrape> no
[04:53] <kupesoft> :<
[04:54] <puff> Anyone familiar with using rsync between two machines?
[04:54] <redvamp128> Though you can google Hair Club For Men
[04:54] <Fezzler> how do I use grep to find a file?  .coldsyncrc
[04:54] <mindrape> grep is to search within files
[04:54] <mindrape> Fezzler - use locate or find
[04:54] <mindrape> locate .coldsyncrc
[04:54] <liquid> k, the gf is dragging me off, g2g
[04:54] <mindrape> for locate you need to periodically sudo updatedb
[04:54] <jeeves__> liquid, don't say it that way!
[04:54] <walter1> hello people i just lost my whole harddrive right now i am using the live cd on my system and have ordered a new harddrive to reinstall ubuntu, my question is , is there a way to safely move my data off the old damaged harddrive?, it seems grub and the partition tables are damaged so mounting the harddrive in the live cd or booting into it didn't work
[04:54] <liquid> Good luck, jeeves__ !
[04:55] <redvamp128> kupesoft:  ubottu google hair club for men
[04:55] <jeeves__> liquid, thanks.  TTL
[04:55] <liquid> I'll prolly be back to tomorrow, later
[04:55] <digitalj> walter1: you would have to take it to a place that specializes in that sort of thing
[04:55] <kupesoft> redvamp128: And googling will work faster than on Windows 3.1?
[04:55] <mindrape> walter1 - mount it               mkdir /media/OHMY && mount /dev/sda1 /media/OHMY
[04:55] <redvamp128> kupesoft:  I actually have NT4 Sp6a installed in a virtual Box
[04:56] <mindrape> kupesoft - well I run Windows 3.1 in my virtual machine and its pretty blindingly fast...
[04:56] <mindrape> I have Win3.1, Win98, and WinXP along w OpenBSD 4.3 in VM.
[04:56] <redvamp128> mindrape add one more-- puppy linux
[04:56] <mindrape> :P
[04:56] <kupesoft> mindrape: I run a VM with Vista running a VM with XP, running a VM with Windows 2000, running a VM with Windows 95, running a VM with Windows 3.1
[04:56] <redvamp128> 94mb iso
[04:56] <kupesoft> Okay enough fun, back to work :(
[04:57] <walter1> mindrape i tried that
[04:57] <mindrape> kupesoft: I just dropped my bible...
[04:57] <mindrape> walter1 - got errors?
[04:57] <ziggles1> does anyone know what kind of disk image vmbuilder generates by default?
[04:57] <miranda_psi> kupesoft: where's windows 98?
[04:57] <mindrape> walter1 - you may need to fsck it.... fsck /dev/sda1
[04:59] <kupesoft> miranda_psi: You win
[05:00] <walter1> mindrape this is what i get in fdisk -l
[05:00]  * mindrape ducks and covers in anticipation of the flood
[05:00] <walter1> dev/sda5  20809  91968   571578402   a1  Unknown
[05:00] <mindrape> so use sda5 instead of sda1
[05:01] <mindrape> walter1 - what does sudo lshw -C storage say?
[05:01] <walter1> thats supposed to be the home partition mindrape
[05:01] <rootrot> hi vbox shuts down after XP loads can anyone help? #vbox is dead ATM:http://pastebin.com/m66af93c9
[05:01] <jeeves__> mindrape, how/were do you set the access for the .htaccess?
[05:01] <walter1> dev/sda1   *        7682       38572   248124181    5  Extended
[05:01] <walter1> boot partition
[05:01] <walter1> dev/sda2               1        7682    61702957   83  Linux
[05:01] <walter1> swap
[05:02] <mindrape> jeeves__ you just create an .htaccess file in the directory you want the access to be uniquely enforced in.
[05:02] <miranda_psi> !paste | walter1
[05:02] <mindrape> then you go to #apache and ask or google as that isn't related to #ubuntu.  :)
[05:02] <jeeves__> mindrape, I was wondering how you add users, etc
[05:02] <biru> irc://irc.freenode.net/cakephp
[05:02] <mindrape> man useradd
[05:02] <mindrape> oh, in htaccess?
[05:03] <jeeves__> mindrape, yes.  I have the directory allready protected,  I just need to see if this is a premissions error
[05:03] <phanbt> hi guys how do you downgrade kernel 2.6.24-7?
[05:04] <phanbt> I have a kernel patch for 2.6.24-7 but I don't know how to downgrade
[05:05] <phanbt> so that can't patch it
[05:05] <biru> cakephp
[05:05] <phanbt> I'm sorry.. Let me say this again. I have a kernel patch for 2.6.24-7. But I don't know how to downgrade to that version it's not in synaptic
[05:06] <RegressLess1> Evening all!
[05:06] <miranda_psi> phanbt: it should be an option in the boot menu to boot to that kernel
[05:06] <RegressLess1> How does one get his webcam working on Ubuntu 8.10?
[05:06] <werdnum> !webcam
[05:07] <phanbt> miranda_psi:  there is ?
[05:08] <OmegaWarrior> Hello, I need help with installing Adobe's flash 9 debug plugin.
[05:08] <miranda_psi> phanbt: should be - should be 2 options for each of the -7 and -9 kernels (1 for normal boot and 1 for single user mode) you can check by looking in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:14] <brand0con> data recovery question: tried to erase an NTFS partition and expand a FAT partition on the same drive in order to make the entire drive FAT.  gparted couldn't finish the operation after 7+ hrs and i cannot access the drive or data
[05:14] <brand0con> any advice?
[05:14] <werdnum> I'm still having trouble with a webcam.
[05:14] <werdnum> It's made by Microsoft :P
[05:15] <werdnum> It *seems* as though it *should* work in luvcview, but I just get a black screen.
[05:15] <werdnum> It picks up the res and framerate and all that.
[05:15] <brand0con> partition table seems to still be in place with /dev/sdb1 and sdb2 showing up but gparted tells me the type is unrecognizable
[05:16] <kevinle> It says, update_modules is deprecated
[05:16] <brand0con> werdnum: try a different program
[05:16] <kevinle> what do i use instead?
[05:16] <werdnum> brand0con: using Skype doesn't work either.
[05:16] <werdnum> I click 'test' and the test screen stays white.
[05:17] <nashmack> Hi everyone
[05:17] <brand0con> werdnum: lspci to see if the device is recognized in the terminal
[05:17] <nashmack> Can anyone help a newbie?
[05:17] <miranda_psi> !ask
[05:18] <un_dave> could someone tell me how to disable my vpn connection as the default route ?
[05:18] <werdnum> brand0con: Doesn't appear in lspci, but it does appear in lsusb
[05:18] <werdnum> Bus 004 Device 003: ID 045e:0721 Microsoft Corp.
[05:18] <nashmack> K, i'm having an issue in Xubuntu, it seems I've lost my panels and don't know where to find them :(
[05:19] <werdnum> nashmack: I don't think Xubuntu has panels.
[05:19] <werdnum> right click on the desktop.
[05:20] <brand0con> im positive it has panels actually
[05:20] <nashmack> When I right click on the desktop it gives me the applications menu
[05:20] <freshhawk> werdnum, uh...what? XFCE has panels
[05:20] <brand0con> havent run it in a while but i thinnnk it has a menu entry
[05:20] <werdnum> freshhawk: I didn't think so, oh well :)
[05:20] <werdnum> brand0con: searching for the webcam model gives very few results
[05:21] <brand0con> does anyone have any insight on data recovery.  partition table seems ok in fdisk but unrecognized in gparted
[05:21] <brand0con> werdnum: bummer.  so no word if its supported or not
[05:21] <freshhawk> can someone help me with where i can change the window resize shortcut setting? (it's alt-middle click, i need it to be alt-rightclick)
[05:22] <freshhawk> oh, not compiz, metacity
[05:22] <werdnum> brand0con: Just a lot of people trying :P
[05:22] <dethklok> hey were is a good java room?
[05:22] <werdnum> brand0con: There are suggested drivers to try and make it work
[05:22] <werdnum> BUT
[05:22] <werdnum> they won't compile on my machine
[05:23] <gerob> I'm looking to change the look of my desktop but I'm not exactly sure how I get some of the real nice desktops i've seen on gnome-look with the application bars and the widgets.  Could someone help me or point me to a good tutorial?
[05:23] <werdnum> /home/andrew/download/gspcav1-20071224/gspca_core.c:54:27: error: asm/semaphore.h: No such file or directory
[05:23] <bluedragon> I have a quick question
[05:23] <bluedragon> need some help
[05:23] <werdnum> I'm suspecting it's kernel incompatibility, or some dodgy headers or something
[05:23] <miranda_psi> !ask | bluedragon
[05:23] <brand0con> werdnum: i'd be stuck at the same point to be honest.  sorry
[05:24] <werdnum> brand0con: :)
[05:24] <werdnum> thanks anyway
[05:24] <brand0con> it took me about 4 differerent progs before mine worked
[05:24] <vduck> Hey, I'm trying to get a program (Never Winter Nights Linux Client) to use an i386 version of SDL
[05:24] <nickrud> ubottu tell gerob about cairo-dock
[05:24] <bluedragon> Well My question is I am planing to buy a new computer and I don't wont to loose all my settings and everything is there a way to back up the whole ubuntu os and like restore it on my new computer
[05:24] <brand0con> maybe another will do the trick. even vlc has capture devices supported now
[05:25] <vduck> I think (?) it's going for the x86_64
[05:25] <vduck> of the SDL
[05:25] <vduck> Help?
[05:25] <h00k> I have two gnome panels, both are NOT set to expand, but where would I look to make the caps (yes, I have show 'hide buttons' unchecked) (see http://drop.io/n8qxpqj)
[05:25] <nickrud> bluedragon, if you have never manually edited /etc/* , making sure you have a backup of your home should transfer all your personal settings
[05:25] <h00k> caps transparent*
[05:25] <tweak66> has anyone use gnome-voice-control
[05:25] <Cymblot> o
[05:25] <freshhawk> bluedragon, you should be able to just copy your home folder over and be good to go
[05:26] <bluedragon> nickrud even software
[05:26] <miranda_psi> bluedragon: most program settings for the user are kept in their home directory, so you can copy those and be set
[05:26] <nickrud> bluedragon, and   sudo dpkg --get-selections > mypackages.txt , moving that file to the new machine after install, then sudo dpkg --get-selections < mypackages.txt && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade will restore the software
[05:26] <vduck> bluedragon: when you set if up, have /home mount to a separate partition. You can reinstall / without touching it. which doesn't help if you've already set it up....
[05:26] <nickrud> bluedragon, that's sudo dpkg --set-selections < mypackages.txt as the second command
[05:27] <gerob> What is the shortcut for switching workspaces please?
[05:27] <bluedragon> Nickrud you lost me
[05:27] <nickrud> gerob, ctl-alt-> left/right arrow
[05:27] <miranda_psi> gerob: ctrl+alt+(left or right arrow)
[05:27] <bluedragon> ok lets say i installed ubuntu on my new computer what do i do next
[05:27] <gerob> Any reason why it wouldn'
[05:27] <gerob> t be working?
[05:27] <nickrud> bluedragon,   sudo dpkg --get-selections > mypackages.txt will get a list of all installed software, and save it in a file
[05:27] <tweak66> gerob: if you have graphics magicx all the way on you can use the mouse scroll
[05:28] <vduck> gerob, thanks for asking that; I've wanted to know that for a whiile
[05:28] <h00k> I have two gnome panels, both are NOT set to expand, but where would I look to make the caps transparent? (yes, I have show 'hide buttons' unchecked) (see http://drop.io/n8qxpqj for screenshot)
[05:28] <mattgyver83> Are Ad-Hoc networks automatically detected in hardy?
[05:28] <h00k> mattgyver83, yep
[05:28] <miranda_psi> gerob: you could override or disable that feature from compiz
[05:28] <gerob> Ahh might be what i did
[05:28] <bluedragon> nickrud ok got you
[05:28] <nickrud> bluedragon, then   sudo dpkg --set-selections < mypackages.txt will read that list, on the new machine, and set them up for installation.  sudo apt-get deselect-upgrade  will perform the actual download and install
[05:28] <pizzledizzle> did u know that jack bauer spent 2 years in chinese captivity where he was tortured?
[05:28] <tweak66> has anyoned use gnome-voice-control?
[05:29] <rww> !ot | pizzledizzle
[05:29] <nickrud> pizzledizzle, tv talk in #ubuntu-offtopic please :)
[05:29] <quibbler> h00k, right chick on panel ..then properties the background
[05:30] <h00k> quibbler, transparent, yes, they are set to that already
[05:30] <RegressLess1> sorry, I still need help with my webcam issue. Ubuntu Community Documentation did not help
[05:30] <bluedragon> oh ok
[05:30] <nickrud> !webcam | RegressLess1 (about all I know, except mine Works for Me™)
[05:30] <bluedragon> thanks nickrud
[05:31] <vduck> My program is wanting 386 versions of the SDL libraries, I'm running i686. Can anybody help?
[05:31] <h00k> quibbler, regardless of transparency, when it's not expanded, those little side-dealio's are still there
[05:31] <quibbler> h00k, do you want to expand..unexpand
[05:31] <RegressLess1> nickrud: Yes, Obottu told me that earlier (yes I know it's not a real person). It was not helpful. I wish I was that lucky.
[05:32] <h00k> quibbler, please see screenshot, I like their placement as is
[05:32] <h00k> quibbler, unexpanded
[05:32] <RegressLess1> the commands don't even work in my terminal
[05:32] <RegressLess1> and EasyCam2 errors out
[05:32] <gerob> miranda_psi: I cant switch workspaces for some reason what setting in Compiz affects this?
[05:32] <myke> how do i remove programs that came preinstalled with ubuntu .. for instance firefox.. i tried sudo apt-get remove firefox .. and it seemed to remove but its still there
[05:33] <RegressLess1> myke: synaptic
[05:33] <vduck> Anybody? How about: how do I apt-get the i386 SDL libs? What would they be called?
[05:33] <Enissay> Hi all, i've just installed Audacious audio player and i can't find how to activate the icon in the notification area?
[05:33] <PUNISHER> Hi everyone!
[05:33] <Brack10> in the guide for integrating samba with kerberos I'm supposed to check what version of MIT Kerberos libraries are installed on m y computer by entering "rpm -q krb5" which of course doesn't work.  so I tried sudo apt-cache showpkg krb5 and that also didn't work.  Anyone know how to check this on Ubuntu?
[05:33] <PUNISHER> How are you?
[05:33] <myke> thanks regress ill give it a shot
[05:33] <PC_Nerd> How can i move a logical partition out of an extended partition?  Im using gparted at the moment.
[05:34] <RegressLess1> System/Administration/Synaptic Package Manager
[05:34] <nickrud> RegressLess1, maybe http://linuxwebcam.org/ can point you in the right direction.
[05:34] <Brack10> RegressLess1: are you directing that at me?
[05:34] <bling4mm> Hello all, I have three questions. 1. How do I play rmvb and rm files (and all the other video files that VLC cannot not play) 2. What is the ubuntu quivalent of HJ Split? 3. How do I extract compressed files like rar and zip?
[05:35] <vduck> PC_nerd: I think you'd have to copy into an extended partition. I don't believe there's a way to change it. Gpart has tools for copying partitions
[05:35] <PC_Nerd> Ok thanks
[05:35] <PUNISHER> bling4mm: for rar archives I recommend install unrar package
[05:35] <nickrud> RegressLess1, and http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/6463/3/ has some good links
[05:35] <PC_Nerd> Gpart as in the "Manage Partitions" under sts->admin ? or how do i get/use it?
[05:36] <h00k> bling4mm, file roller will also support splitting archives
[05:36] <myke> ok odd in synaptics firefox is uninstalled ,... i assume its asking me to mark it for installation ... but it still shows up under the internet tab .. and works
[05:36] <PC_Nerd> *System->Administration->Partition Editor ?
[05:36] <bluedragon> has any one ever used simple backup from the add/remove programs list
[05:37] <vduck> PC_Nerd: I'm working from memory, but there's a GUI tool: it shows the whole disk. You can highlight a partition, and there's probably a "copy" button somewhere
[05:37] <vduck> You've got to have an extended part to copy it too
[05:37] <PC_Nerd> yeah I found it - thanks :)
[05:37] <vduck> You can only have.. what 4 of those
[05:37] <bling4mm> Thanks
[05:37] <bling4mm> Does unrar extract zip files as well?
[05:38] <vduck> 4 extended, and in one of those you can have 4 logical... I think
[05:38] <PC_Nerd> im attempting to move it outside of the extended partition.  its currently inside sda3 and im trying to make it so that i only have sda1 (win) and sda2 (ntfs data)  sda2 is currently inside an extedned partition.
[05:38] <h00k> bling4mm, file roller supports zip files already
[05:38] <jdsbluedevl> hi, I'm having issues installing the update for Moblock.  As in, it doesn't want to upgrade.  Neither does it want to be removed
[05:38] <RegressLess1> myke: Sorry, I've not actually tried to remove Firefox. What is the reason you want to be rid of it?
[05:38] <jdsbluedevl> what can I do?
[05:39] <PUNISHER> bling4mm: for zip there is archives manager.
[05:39] <PUNISHER> in ubuntu
[05:39] <myke> i just want a clean system and i dont want it in my menus, opera seems to be a much better browser oddly on ubuntu
[05:40] <bling4mm> So file roller extracts both zip and rar, AND functions as HJ split?
[05:40] <vduck> PC_Nerd: what partitions do you have currently, and what type (logical/extend) are they?
[05:40] <jdsbluedevl> I put my error info for the moblock update on pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu.com/107603/
[05:41] <vduck> Anybody: running a 32 bit program on a 64 bit machine?
[05:41] <vduck> specifically, SDL?
[05:41] <vduck> help?
[05:41] <jdsbluedevl> it's very quiet in here, I put out my question and no one is biting either
[05:41] <PC_Nerd> vduck:  sda1 (ntfs windoze), sda3 (extended)-> sda5(ntfs data)     im currently in the proccess of removing partitions which is why sda2 and others are missing atm.   Im attempting to make:  sda1(windoze), sda2(ntfs data), so that ntfs3 can be extended with ubuntu in it.
[05:41] <vduck> Yah
[05:42] <RegressLess> wow Pidgin crashed
[05:42] <CostaRicanQuaker> Amarok won't play
[05:42] <Flannel> !doesntwork | CostaRicanQuaker
[05:42] <CostaRicanQuaker> can someone help me fix this, i  just clicked on an mp3 and it doesnt...do anyhting it gets stuck
[05:42] <h00k> I have two gnome panels, both are NOT set to expand (which is what I'd like), but where would I look to make the caps transparent? (yes, I have show 'hide buttons' unchecked) (see http://drop.io/n8qxpqj for screenshot)
[05:42] <PC_Nerd> vduck, I currently have a 30gb unallocated section outside of the extended partition, so im copying sda5 to there, so that I have 2 partitions outside of extended which is how I want it... waiting for it to copy  (all 29 GB of it ) - so itll be a while
[05:43] <RegressLess> myke: does Opera work across most OS's? I'm mainly looking for as little limitation as possible.
[05:43] <sp0tteh> "fdisk -l" shows /dev/sdc1, but there is no sdc1 showing up in "/dev" (only "sdc") .. any ideas?
[05:43] <jdsbluedevl> can anyone help with my issue with Moblock?  Again, my error info is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/107603/
[05:43] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok, i have a folder, within the folder, i have mp3 files, i click on one, then amarok pops up, and nothing happens no travel from the wee progress abr and no sound either
[05:43] <myke> opera works perfect on every os ive tried it on .. it really has grown as a browser..
[05:43] <CostaRicanQuaker> which is odd as youtube is playing and it has sound
[05:43] <RegressLess> cool
[05:44] <vduck> PC_Nerd: so you've got it to do what you want? The copying will take a while...
[05:44] <myke> yup .. biggest reason i switched is for some reason firefox wouldnt show all the tabs on my schools homework server, but opera will
[05:44] <Ketrel> Is there any tutorial for setting up *ubuntu so I can SSH into it? (Assume I know fully how to take care of everything on the router's side)
[05:44] <vduck> jds
[05:44] <rafase282> hello
[05:44] <CostaRicanQuaker> that being said i don't know what it might be
[05:44] <RegressLess> myke: I haven't had any problems with Firefox yet
[05:44] <rafase282> i need help with vnc
[05:44] <jdsbluedevl> vduck: yah
[05:45] <CostaRicanQuaker> but i know this to be true: it should work, and it doesn't
[05:45] <vduck> sorry, what's the "auto complete a chatter's handle" . .   how do you do that?
[05:45] <RegressLess> myke: Sorry I couldn't help
[05:45] <courpse__> Ketrel, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[05:45] <jdsbluedevl> dunno
[05:45] <courpse__> then: ssh -l <login> <IP>
[05:45] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok i tried with vlc, there is travel on the progress bar but htere's no sound
[05:46] <vduck> jdsbluedevl, sorry dude. I don't even know what a moblock is.... what is it?
[05:46] <Ketrel> CoUrPsE|DeAd: what about starting and stopping it?
[05:46] <CostaRicanQuaker> everything seems to be fine on the sound control part of things
[05:46] <jdsbluedevl> moblock is the Linux equivalent of PeerGuardian
[05:46] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Ketrel, sudo /etc/init.d/ssh stop
[05:46] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Ketrel, sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[05:47] <CostaRicanQuaker> so i can't see why i can't play sound files on the media players
[05:47] <tien> Hello Ubuntu expert:  I want to use VPN client (cisco)...does Ubuntu bundled this pkg or I have to serach from internet ? Your help is great appreciated.
[05:47] <quibbler> vduck, letter or two + tab
[05:47] <bling> tien: install vpnc
[05:47] <bling> tien: and network-manager-vpnc
[05:48] <tien> bling, where should i install vpnc ? I am new Ubuntu user....
[05:48] <CostaRicanQuaker> clicked on a different soundfile
[05:48] <CostaRicanQuaker> same result
[05:48] <myke> regress its ok
[05:48] <Ketrel> CoUrPsE|DeAd: one more, how would I configure what port to listen on
[05:48] <vduck> quibbler: got it, it was offering multiple choices, I wasn't typing in enough letters. Pay attention, yah?
[05:48] <myke> this is my first time really using linux im a avid osx user
[05:48] <vduck> See you all later...
[05:48] <tien> bling, could you give a hint how to
[05:48] <quibbler> vduck, ;-)
[05:49] <bling> tien: that is the cisco vpn client.  you can install programs by going to Applications > Add/Remove (look at the bottom of the menu) OR System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager
[05:49] <rafase282> can someoen help me with vnc server?
[05:49] <PC_Nerd> vduck, well I dont know if its what I want as a final product - but copying out of the extended, will be a sure start.  Ill then have to check the data went across safely, then Ill remove the extended, merge the unallocated space, and install ubuntu ( I kind of screwed up my previous install )     so yeah Thanks!
[05:49] <Flannel> CostaRicanQuaker: Try a different format (not mp3)
[05:49] <tien> bling, thanks...I'll look for it.
[05:50] <CostaRicanQuaker> Flannel:  how do you mean? they should play mp3s
[05:50] <Flannel> CostaRicanQuaker: Right.  But try another format to see if its an issue with the player itself, or something having to do with codecs.
[05:50] <un_dave> could someone assist me setup a vpn in 8.10. it wont connect.
[05:50] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Ketrel, nano /etc/ssh/sshd_config and change port 22 to port <whatever>
[05:51] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Ketrel, Then restart the ssh server using: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[05:51] <CostaRicanQuaker> just clicked on a wma and it won't play either...
[05:51] <CostaRicanQuaker> audacious that is won't play it
[05:52] <EdgeX-[V]> !skype
[05:52] <Flannel> CostaRicanQuaker: Try something with a free format.  Try an ogg Vorbis (.oga)
[05:52] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> CostaRicanQuaker, Does the progress bar move in the mp3 player?
[05:52] <CostaRicanQuaker> nope
[05:52] <CostaRicanQuaker> mp4?
[05:52] <un_dave> is there a log for the vpn connections?
[05:53] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> CostaRicanQuaker, Try shutting down any applications that use sound, eg skype and stuff liek that.
[05:53] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Then playing ya song again.
[05:53] <CostaRicanQuaker> i have youtube going
[05:53]  * CostaRicanQuaker closes firefox
[05:53] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok well now the wma i clicked on before
[05:54] <CostaRicanQuaker> is playing
[05:54]  * CoUrPsE|DeAd nods.
[05:54] <CostaRicanQuaker> but that sucks
[05:54] <CostaRicanQuaker> because
[05:54] <CostaRicanQuaker> that means i can't have firefox
[05:54] <Flannel> !enter | CostaRicanQuaker
[05:54] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> yes, but now u can pause your music playre.
[05:54] <CostaRicanQuaker> and music playing
[05:54] <CostaRicanQuaker> at the same time
[05:54] <FloodBot2> CostaRicanQuaker: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:54] <tien> bling, I updated most of the applciations 1 hr ago, but could not find the vpnc....could you help
[05:54] <Flannel> CostaRicanQuaker: You can have firefox, you can't have flash (or maybe just youtube)
[05:54] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> CostaRicanQuaker, as long as your music player is open first, you can pause your music player, use sound device or other things, and then unpause when ready.
[05:54] <Ketrel> CoUrPsE|DeAd: does it have to be nano, or will emacs do
[05:55] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Ketrel, Any text editer will be fine.
[05:55] <CostaRicanQuaker> can i have youtube playing a comedian
[05:55] <CostaRicanQuaker> standup
[05:55] <Ketrel> CoUrPsE|DeAd: thanks (I was worried it was like having to use visudo)
[05:55] <CostaRicanQuaker> and then have as background music something from the player?
[05:55] <vince> Does anyone have any idea on how to recover passwords on an UBUNTU install if you have forgotten them?  I have attempted to load a root console to reset the pass.  It says its successfull but when I restart the user still will not accept the password I set
[05:55] <tien> bling, are you still online ?
[05:55] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> CostaRicanQuaker, open your player first, then gotto the website.
[05:55] <bling> tien: yes
[05:55] <Flannel> vince: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword  that's the correct method
[05:55] <bling> tien: patience, i type slow.  ;-)
[05:56] <vince> Flannel : Thanks! I'll check it out
[05:56] <tien> bling, how should I find vpnc
[05:56] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> The oss sound driver is surpose to be bette for multiple devices using sound at same time.
[05:56] <CostaRicanQuaker> CoUrPsE|DeAd, the player got stuck
[05:56] <CostaRicanQuaker> right after i opened firefox
[05:56] <bling> tien: one sec, im looking for the repository to enable...brb
[05:56] <kbrosnan> CostaRicanQuaker: it is a conflict between pulse audio and adobe's flash player see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio
[05:57] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> CostaRicanQuaker, What driver is it set to in your sound prefences?
[05:57] <tien> bling....take your time....awaiting
[05:57] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> using oss.
[05:57] <CostaRicanQuaker> CoUrPsE|DeAd, how do i check that?
[05:57] <vince> Flannel : I have already attempted both of those methods, Using the recovery method shows a "Password Change Successfull Message" but whenever I login and try to SUDO anything it still shows invalid Password.  When I attempt to use the second method the system simply reboots and does not drop to Root Access
[05:57] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> System/Prefemnces/sound.
[05:58] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> EG: my settings, but may not be good for you, all except default mixter trascks ar set to 'OSS - open Sound System'
[05:58] <tv7497> good morning guys guys whats the name of the program that make ubuntu desktop similar to mac (the downpart)
[05:58] <bling> tien: okay, so go to System > Administration > Software Sources, on the tab on the left, there should be check boxes for repositories.  make sure the check box for "Universe" is ticked.  Then hit the reload button (next to close).
[05:58] <CostaRicanQuaker> CoUrPsE|DeAd, ALSA?
[05:59] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Set them to OSS.
[05:59] <Flannel> vince: Oh, so you can login fine, but you can't use sudo?  Are you logged in right now?
[05:59] <CostaRicanQuaker> intel ich5?
[05:59] <_Vi_> tv7497: the dock thingy?
[05:59] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> OSS ?
[05:59] <CostaRicanQuaker> CoUrPsE|DeAd, who me?
[05:59] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> yes. Just set them all to oss,
[05:59] <CostaRicanQuaker> how?
[05:59] <CostaRicanQuaker> i don't see an oss option
[05:59] <tv7497> _Vi_: is it called dock i have no idea the bottom flashy part like in many of those screen shots
[06:00] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Ketrel, Dnt worry, i hate vi, so i dont tell anyone to use it, :D nano easy and pwnz.
[06:00] <_Vi_> yeah the dock,
[06:00] <vince> Flannel : Yes but my system is configured to auto login to my account
[06:00] <tien> bling, Thx....I searching and update to you. Thx again.
[06:00] <tv7497> _Vi_: thanks sir
[06:00] <_Vi_> that's avant window navigator tv7497
[06:00] <CostaRicanQuaker> CoUrPsE|DeAd, oh wait yes, i did, you meant hte dropdown boxes above that
[06:00] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok now what do i do?
[06:00] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> CostaRicanQuaker, There is no option under Sound Playback for OSS - IOpen Sound System
[06:00] <Flannel> vince: Alright, try hitting ctrl-alt-f2 (you'll get a console) and try to log in there.  (ctrl-alt-f7 will get you back to the GUI)
[06:00] <_Vi_> tv7497: theres another called Cairo
[06:00] <bling> tien: no prob
[06:00] <CostaRicanQuaker> CoUrPsE|DeAd, so what do i do now? i changed all of those to oss
[06:00] <phpstar> hello everyone :)
[06:01] <_Vi_> tv7497: np :)
[06:01] <tv7497> _Vi_: okie sir cario , avant will google those thanks :)
[06:01] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> CostaRicanQuaker, Click close, then reboot music player.
[06:01] <_Vi_> tv7497: avant is in the repos
[06:01] <phpstar> I m using ubuntu 8.10 and everything is fine except there is no sound in Flash video  ??
[06:01] <phpstar> anyone know y
[06:01] <vince> Flannel : Ok once I am there what do I do?  I have no issues getting to concole the problum is when I change the password it SAYS its successfull but does not appear to work.  IE I cannot get SUDO access in order to run Synaptic or other programs requiring the permissions
[06:02] <mood> you sure it's a flash issue?
[06:02] <phpstar> yes mood
[06:02] <phpstar> coz VLC is fine
[06:02] <phpstar> sound is fine
[06:02] <mood> what browser are you using?
[06:02] <Flannel> vince: Can you log in to the terminal?
[06:02] <phpstar> Mozilla Firefox
[06:02] <vince> using ROOT yes.  I have no tried it from console under my User Name
[06:02] <mood> and you downloaded the latest flash/shockwave plugins?
[06:02] <phpstar> yes
[06:02] <phpstar> Flash 10
[06:02] <tv7497> phpstar: as far as i know they have fixed that thing when other program is running which uses your alsa flash sound didnt work for me in hardy its fine with ibex
[06:03] <Flannel> vince: I don't care about root.  I want you to hit ctrl-alt-f2 and see if you can log in to your user there.
[06:03] <phpstar> hmmmm it was fine for me in Hardy but not in ebix
[06:03] <CostaRicanQuaker> CoUrPsE|DeAd, now youtube has no sound
[06:03] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> CostaRicanQuaker, Does the music player?
[06:03] <vince> Flannel : Yes I can
[06:04] <CostaRicanQuaker> yes since i opened it first as yout old me
[06:04] <CostaRicanQuaker> but when i opened firefox afterwards
[06:04] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> CostaRicanQuaker, Pause your music player, and play something on utube.
[06:04] <CostaRicanQuaker> youtube had no sound
[06:04] <tien> bling, I do see the "Software restricted by copyright or legal issues (mutilverse) is checked, but not seeing "repositories"....
[06:04] <mood> phpstar: can you try a standalone flash player?
[06:04] <Flannel> vince: alright, then the problem has nothing to do with your password.  Type "groups" (you can go back to your GUI now), what is the output of that command?
[06:04] <CostaRicanQuaker> CoUrPsE|DeAd, doesn't work, i even switched video
[06:04] <phpstar> how mood ??
[06:05] <bling> tien: you want to make sure that the "universe" is checked, is it?
[06:05] <vince> Flannel :
[06:05] <vince> err lets try that agian
[06:05] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> okies, thats weird, Set back to also then, and live with it.
[06:05] <mood> phpstar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FlashPlayerStandalone
[06:05] <CostaRicanQuaker> what?
[06:05] <phpstar> i tried downloading from Flash site but its onli available in x86 and not in 64 bit
[06:05] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> lol.
[06:05] <vince> Flannel : vince adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev fuse lpadmin admin
[06:05] <CostaRicanQuaker> so you can't have both youtube and the music player at once?
[06:05] <CostaRicanQuaker> wait, what about the browser?
[06:05] <kbrosnan> CostaRicanQuaker: it is a conflict between pulse audio and adobe's flash player see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio
[06:06] <CostaRicanQuaker> now the music player got stuck when i tried to unpause it
[06:06] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> I've never tried. let me look now.
[06:06] <CostaRicanQuaker> kbrosnan, so what do i do about it?
[06:06] <tien> bling, I am in the main menu of "software SOurces" and under "Third Party Software...." Am I in the right path ?
[06:06] <kbrosnan> CostaRicanQuaker: read the page for suggestions
[06:06] <tv7497> phpstar: no idea mate maybe this would be helpful have a look http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=944742
[06:06] <Flannel> vince: Interesting.    Ok, I'm unfortunately going to need you to go back to the root console.  Once there, do this: cp /etc/sudoers /home/username/Desktop/sudoers && chmod a+r /home/username/Desktop/sudoers
[06:06] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> kbrosnan, He's now using OSS.
[06:06] <phpstar> thx tv
[06:07] <Flannel> vince: (where username is your username, obviously).  We need to take a look at your sudoers file to see whats going on.
[06:07] <tv7497> phpstar: np
[06:07] <vince> Flannel : Ok One moment please.
[06:07] <CostaRicanQuaker> kbrosnan, under known issues?
[06:07] <kbrosnan> yese
[06:08] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> CostaRicanQuaker, Youtube is working fine for me, im using OSS for everything except for default mixer. I am listening to music at the same time.
[06:08] <bling> tien: you dont want third party software.  you want the tab to the left.  i would tell you what its called, but im on windows, and i cant remember it.  its something like "main repositories" or something
[06:08] <CostaRicanQuaker> If you experience problems with audio synchronization after installation, you may need to edit the file /etc/firefox/firefoxrc
[06:08] <tv7497> Flannel: hello sir was finally able to run enlightenment but i prefer gnome rather than that
[06:08] <CostaRicanQuaker> ^where is that?
[06:08] <kbrosnan> CoUrPsE|DeAd: well what costa is experiencing is textbook for the the issue described in that pulse audio page
[06:08] <mood> any vsftpd users know how to check for version#?
[06:09] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> kbrosnan, Okies, Does OSS use pulseaudio ?
[06:09] <CostaRicanQuaker> In previous Ubuntu releases, Flash support can be enabled in two ways: by downloading and installing a .deb from logicalnetworking.net or by building a patched version of the Flash plugin from source. (See detailed instructions below.If you experience problems with audio synchronization after installation, you may need to edit the file /etc/firefox/firefoxrc. The line referencing FIREFOX_DSP should read FIREFOX_DSP="padsp"
[06:09] <CostaRicanQuaker> ^how do i do that?
[06:09] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Yes it does, nm.
[06:09] <phpstar> mood just edit vsftpd.conf file
[06:10] <tien> bling, on the tab left, there is "Ubuntu Software" is that right ? Then I don't see repositories at all
[06:10] <myke> ughh kde or gnome i cant decide
[06:10] <mood> eh? edit it? i just want to check version#
[06:10] <kbrosnan> CoUrPsE|DeAd: thought pulse audio was sort of an uber wrapper that tryed to put all the different sound devices under its control
[06:10] <tien> bling, or may be Ubuntu 8.10 is different than your version ?
[06:10] <CostaRicanQuaker> ^kbrosnan,  how do i do that?
[06:11] <phpstar> i think its conf file also have version info
[06:11] <mood> grep -i version doesn't turn up anything
[06:11] <CostaRicanQuaker> do i sudo apt-get install libflashsupport first?
[06:11] <bling> tien: yes, thats the right tab.  its possible that it got moved around between version, though unlikely.  let me see if i can get a guide to it.  i assume you are on intrepid ibex?
[06:11] <kbrosnan> CostaRicanQuaker: i don't know, i don't experience the issue
[06:11] <_Vi_> myke: you can have both (just not running at the same time of course) 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[06:11] <vince> Flannel : Ok I have the file now do you want the output for the uncommented lines?
[06:12] <mood> unless of course "vsftpd.conf.5" means verison 5. duh. thx phpstar
[06:12] <Flannel> vince: Just patse the entire thing
[06:12] <Flannel> !paste | vince
[06:12] <CostaRicanQuaker> i mean, you're pointing out that that page has suggestions for it kbrosnan so i'm assuming that there's something to be done in it
[06:12] <CostaRicanQuaker> but i don't know how to do what htat page says
[06:12] <myke> vi .. yeah but why have both .. im trying to have a clean efficient . good looking system .. gnome is kind of blah
[06:12] <_Vi_> well then :P
[06:12] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> kbrosnan, Yeah, seems so.
[06:12] <_Vi_> myke: I like IceWM have you tried it?
[06:13] <mood> oh wait,  vsftpd is only at 2.0.7...
[06:13] <vince> Flannel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/107608/
[06:13] <Frijolie> ok, Ive came across an annoying problem with my window sizes
[06:13] <myke> icewm is nice but way to simple.. and boxy lol
[06:13] <Frijolie> often times I'll get a window which is too large to fit on my desktop
[06:13] <_Vi_> well there's themes ya know
[06:13] <tien> bling, then here are the box list under it: 1) Canonical-supported....2) Community maintained open source (univers)...3) Proprietary drivers .....4) Software restrcited ....(multiverse).....
[06:13] <phpstar> mood dude u can open sysnaptic manager and search for vsftpd :)
[06:13] <CostaRicanQuaker> !pastebin
[06:13] <Frijolie> so the top of the window will "bump" up against my top taskbar but will then extend below the bottom taskbar
[06:14] <mood> phpstar: yeah, vsftpd is just so streamlined that i don't think it even self documents what version it is :-p
[06:14] <_Vi_> myke: just like fluxbox has like 20 themes (built in) so does Icewm :)
[06:14] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Frijolie, Check /etc/X11/xorg.conf for virtual resolutions on your screen device.
[06:14] <Frijolie> and therefore I cannot resize the window by draggin on the bottom right corner
[06:14] <myke> is there a dock for icewm?
[06:14] <Flannel> vince: Alright, everything looks... in order there.  Ok, um, open up a terminal, and do `sudo echo "foo"`  enter your password, does it give you an error?
[06:14] <CostaRicanQuaker> CoUrPsE|DeAd, kbrosnan : here http://paste.ubuntu.com/107609/
[06:14] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Frijolie, Is it only just out of reach ?
[06:14] <phpstar> yo mood
[06:14] <Frijolie> I've heard of some workarounds CTRL + Left-clicking, and CTRL + Middle mouse
[06:14] <phpstar> did u searched in synaptic manager ??
[06:15] <phpstar> 2.0.7 is latest version
[06:15] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> CostaRicanQuaker, Whats the problem?
[06:15] <_Vi_> myke: that I'm not sure of. I bet they do have something like it as a seperate download
[06:15] <Frijolie> CoUrPsE|DeAd: man that's hard to type...yes it's just beyond reach
[06:15] <mood> phpstar: yes, i know 2.0.7 is latest and greatest. the problem is i don't know what version i have installed and running
[06:15] <Frijolie> I dont know if it's a Compiz, VirtualBox, Ubuntu, or Xorg problem
[06:15] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Frijolie, Type Co<Press Tab>.
[06:15] <bling> tien: make sure the "community maintained open source (universe)" is ticked and hit reload.  or, if you prefer the shotgun approach ( :-) ), make sure all 5 are ticked and hit reload.
[06:15] <vince> Flannel : Sorry, Please Try agian
[06:15] <CostaRicanQuaker> sorry about that
[06:15] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Frijolie, How far out of reach is it?
[06:15] <phpstar> then FTP with filezilla
[06:15] <Frijolie> CoUrPse: huh?
[06:15] <phpstar> and u will know ;)
[06:15] <mood> phpstar: i don't think you can :-(
[06:16] <CostaRicanQuaker> CoUrPsE|DeAd, what do i do?
[06:16] <CostaRicanQuaker> i'm sorry, i accidentally closed the window
[06:16] <CostaRicanQuaker> i'm trying to follow the directions on that page
[06:16] <Frijolie> CoUrPse: well it's usually about an inch below my bottom taskbar
[06:16] <CostaRicanQuaker> what do i have to do though...i typed that into the konsole
[06:16] <myke> wow .. that downloaded quick .. i just installed and downloaded icewm in about 20 seconds lol
[06:16] <CostaRicanQuaker> now what am i suposed to do
[06:16] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Frijolie, If you move your taskbar to the side, then move it from the bottom?
[06:16] <Flannel> vince: Erm.   And you're sure youre typing the same password that you used to log in to the console a few minutes ago?
[06:16] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> CostaRicanQuaker, its installed.
[06:16] <ganesh> where can i get pcap.h in ubuntu
[06:17] <Frijolie> CoUrpse: nope, tried that it's below enough where I can't get it by doing that
[06:17] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> CostaRicanQuaker, You dont do anything else with that bit.
[06:17] <vince> Flannel : Positive
[06:17] <Frijolie> CoUrPse: sometimes the CTRL + Left-clicking works
[06:17] <Flannel> vince: Alright... for yucks... what does "groups username" (where username is you) return?
[06:17] <Frijolie> CoUrPse: and sometimes the CTRL + Middle Mouse works
[06:17] <jdsbluedevl> can someone help me with Moblock?  It won't upgrade, and when I try to remove it, it won't uninstall.  My error message is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/107603/
[06:17] <CostaRicanQuaker> CoUrPsE|DeAd, so next is changing the /etc/firefox/firefoxrc. and changing the line to FIREFOX_DSP="padsp" how do i do that?
[06:17] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Frijolie, Okies, Look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf for virtual resolutions for your screen device.
[06:18] <Frijolie> CoUrPse: but neither are working now and it's extremely annoying!
[06:18] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> CostaRicanQuaker, nano /etc/firefox/firefoxrc.
[06:18] <kbrosnan> sudo nano
[06:18] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> CostaRicanQuaker, then look for the line and change it.
[06:18] <vince> Flannel : vince@Pong:~$ groups vince
[06:18] <vince> vince adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev fuse lpadmin admin
[06:18] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> yes sorry, sudo nano.
[06:18] <Hilikus> how do i install packages deemed "backports" ??
[06:19] <Hilikus> im looking at http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy-backports/bacula
[06:19] <tien> bling, the "community maintained open source universe" was checked initially. Therefore I don't see the "reload" button ....Am i following your instruction correctly....Then where should I finf vpnc and launch it ?
[06:19] <_Vi_> !backports
[06:19] <Hilikus> and i don't have that version, i have the version in http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/bacula
[06:19] <zetheroo> hey, I got an Ipod that says its a read-only filesystem  ... how do i get into it and full rights to it?
[06:19] <Frijolie> CoUrPsE: whoa! I have the most simple xorg file I've ever seen
[06:19] <CostaRicanQuaker> er...is there a different notepad or somethign i can open that file with CoUrPsE|DeAd ?
[06:19] <CostaRicanQuaker> it seemed odd so i just closed it i didn't want mess anyhting up
[06:19] <gonewestcoast> zetheroo: Mount read write.  But I'm reasonably sure you can't on modern iPods.
[06:19] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> ?
[06:19] <Frijolie> CoUrPsE: only simple entries and only about three of them, but nothing about virtual resolutions..or any resolutions at all
[06:20] <bling> tien: did you manage to install it?
[06:20] <binMonkey> how do i add a public key so i can download a program?  i've add the ppa info to my sources.list already.
[06:20] <jdsbluedevl> can someone help me with Moblock?  My error message is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/107603/
[06:20] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> CostaRicanQuaker, sudo gedit /etc/firefox/firefoxrc.
[06:20] <tien> bling, okey, when I closed it, then the reload button appears, then I clicked on it.
[06:20] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Frijolie, Humm... Im afraid im not sure then.
[06:20] <tien> bing, how do i manage to install it ?
[06:20] <Frijolie> CoUrPsE: http://paste.ubuntu.com/107612/
[06:21] <CostaRicanQuaker> um.... CoUrPsE|DeAd it opens an empty file
[06:21] <zetheroo> anyone?
[06:21] <CostaRicanQuaker> should i take that final . out of the name? sudo gedit /etc/firefox/firefoxrc
[06:21] <_Vi_> !tab | Frijolie
[06:21] <jdsbluedevl> can someone please help me with Moblock?!!!!
[06:21] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> CostaRicanQuaker, Okies, i must of typod fiule, do sudo gedit /path/to/file
[06:21] <bling> tien: it will appear in the network-manager applet.  so click the applet (should be in the upper right and list networks to connect to), go to "VPN Connections" and "Configure VPN"
[06:21] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> CostaRicanQuaker, sudo gedit /etc/firefox/firefoxrc
[06:21] <Flannel> vince: well, I don't know what to tell you.  Everything looks normal.
[06:21] <zetheroo> ipod with read-only filesystem here ... need to delete files ...
[06:21] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> could be it.
[06:21] <Frijolie> _Vi_: well thanks for the tip(s), I was underware of the tab completion for IRC
[06:22] <_Vi_> :)
[06:22] <werdnum> You were underwear of it or unaware? :P
[06:22] <Frijolie> _Vi_, and now I understand what he was trying to say "type Co<TAB>"
[06:22] <vince> Flannel : alrighty,  I think at this point im just gona have to burn another CD.  I have no idea what else to do either
[06:22] <Frijolie> *lightbulb*
[06:22] <CostaRicanQuaker> CoUrPsE|DeAd, still empty? what am i doing wrong
[06:22] <tien> bling, is it under "system" or application ?
[06:22] <CostaRicanQuaker> it looks like the name on that page
[06:23] <_Vi_> that factoid doesnt help, but Frijolie basically just type Cou<TAB> yep yep you got it :)
[06:23] <jdsbluedevl> thanks guys, you were much help.  VOMIT!!!!!!!
[06:23] <vince> I can login to the accounts but whenever I try to access anything with SUDO rights it acts like the password is wrong
[06:23] <ganesh> how to install pcap.h in ubuntu?
[06:23] <_Vi_> I tried to update the !Tab factoid but the ops wont/didnt approve it yet :(((
[06:24] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> CostaRicanQuaker, Is the how-to you got for 8.10 ?
[06:24] <bling> tien: neither.  in the toolbar (called a panel) that has Applications, Places, and System, on the right side of the _panel_ there are a few buttons/icons/applets.  thats what you want.
[06:24] <CostaRicanQuaker> CoUrPsE|DeAd, i pasted waht you told me...but i still can't seem to get anything btu the empty file
[06:24] <phpstar> heheheehehhe
[06:24] <mood> there just ain't pleasing anyone, even with free, altruistic help :-p
[06:24] <Frijolie> CoUrPsE|DeAd, any idea what could be causing it other than Xorg? Compiz, VirtualBox..?
[06:24] <Rudd-O> http://rudd-o.com/new-projects/linuxvideoconverter
[06:24] <phpstar> mood did u find version number yet ??
[06:25] <homeskillet> how do you install postgres 8.3 in ubuntu? is it just apt-get install postgres-8.3 or do i need other things?
[06:25] <CostaRicanQuaker> CoUrPsE|DeAd, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio
[06:25] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Frijolie, Sorry, i dont, :( I'm having a google.
[06:25] <_Vi_> dont forget 'sudo' homeskillet
[06:25] <mood> nope. i figure it's just rule of thumb to use synaptic to update to the latest and greatest. god forbid i have to downgrade
[06:25] <Hilikus> thanks
[06:25] <phpstar> if u open synaptic maanger and click on installed menu then it will show
[06:25] <Frijolie> sudo apt-get purge Gee Dubya; sudo apt-get install Barack Obama
[06:26] <Frijolie> is this an Easter Egg?
[06:26] <phpstar> it is showing mine vsftpd version as well ;)
[06:26] <mood> phpstar: schitte.... why didn't i think of that?
[06:26] <phpstar> hehehehe
[06:26] <Flannel> Frijolie: No.  Please take offtopic comments elsewhere.
[06:26] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> CostaRicanQuaker, What flavour you using?
[06:26] <CostaRicanQuaker> how do you mean?
[06:26] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> what version ubuntu ?
[06:27] <CostaRicanQuaker> CoUrPsE|DeAd, how do i check?
[06:27] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> 0.o
[06:27] <liquid> nething special i should keep in mind when upgrading ubuntu 8.04 kernel?
[06:27] <mood> phpstar: it works, it shows the installed version. kind of clunky for *nix though...
[06:27] <CostaRicanQuaker> How do i check what version of ubuntu i'm on?
[06:28] <_Vi_> liquid: do you use Vbox ? if you do you'll likely have to recompile it after that
[06:28] <phpstar> kool
[06:28] <liquid> yes i do...good info
[06:29] <_Vi_> CostaRicanQuaker: lsb_release -a
[06:29] <bling> tien: how are you doing?  did you find it?
[06:30] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Frijolie, Dual heads or single?
[06:30] <CostaRicanQuaker> CoUrPsE|DeAd, Description:    Ubuntu 8.04.1
[06:30] <tien> bling, I found VPN under "preferences"/Network Connections" but the "VPN" tab is grayed out of the "add, edit,etc..button"
[06:30] <_Vi_> 8.04 FTW! :)
[06:30] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> lol.
[06:31] <Frijolie> CoUrPsE|DeAd, for what?
[06:31] <Steelflint> I'm trying to use Cron to execute Audacious on a timer, I have it set up in Gnome schedule, and when I "Execute" the command in the scheduler, it works, but when the actually time comes for Cron to run the command itself, it does not work.
[06:31] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> CostaRicanQuaker, do: sudo updatedb
[06:31] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> CostaRicanQuaker, do: sudo locate firefoxrc.
[06:31] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Frijolie, Your computer, has it got 2 monitors or one?
[06:31] <bling> tien: i ran into that too, and im not sure why.  this is the place to ask that question though.
[06:31] <Ketrel> CoUrPsE|DeAd: thanks, I got SSH up and running
[06:31] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Ketrel, np.
[06:32] <Ketrel> CoUrPsE|DeAd: of course the purpose was so I could use Finch while in class without anyone suspecting an IM program XD
[06:32] <Frijolie> CoUrPsE|DeAd, sorry, I shoulda known what you meant. Only one monitor, I'm on a lappy
[06:32] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Frijolie, okies.
[06:32] <tien> bling.....is there anyhow to unlock the VPN icon ?
[06:32] <Frijolie> CoUrPsE|DeAd, man, you're like the Help Desk machine! Look at you go!
[06:32] <CostaRicanQuaker> CoUrPsE|DeAd, i did the first command you told me and i lost the prompt
[06:32] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Ketrel, on terminal msn or something argh?
[06:33] <_Vi_> !cookie | CoUrPsE|DeAd
[06:33] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> CostaRicanQuaker, Wait a bit, it well come back.
[06:33] <_Vi_> :)
[06:33] <Ketrel> CoUrPsE|DeAd: were askign what finch was?
[06:33] <tien> bling, also isthere anyhow to configure VPN by manual (cmd) instead of GUI ?
[06:33] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Ketrel, Yeah,
[06:33] <CostaRicanQuaker> CoUrPsE|DeAd, here's to you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OafqYNCzq5U
[06:33] <Ketrel> CoUrPsE|DeAd: Text-based Pidgin
[06:33] <bling> tien: i dont know.  ive run into the same problem, but i havent had the time to figure out why yet.
[06:34] <Ketrel> (Pidgin being the multi protocall IM program)
[06:34] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Ketrel, Ahh k, well have to install it, pidgin minest well be tui anyway.
[06:34] <bling> tien: if there is, i dont know it.  i would recommend the applet plugin though, its actually quite good.
[06:34] <CostaRicanQuaker> sebastian@sebastian:~$ sudo locate firefoxrc. sebastian@sebastian:~
[06:34] <tien> bling, you ran into the problem before....so you could not run vpnc on your ubuntu, right...
[06:34] <CostaRicanQuaker> ^ CoUrPsE|DeAd
[06:35] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> CostaRicanQuaker, okies, then ya not going to be able to edit what dnt exist,
[06:35] <CostaRicanQuaker> CoUrPsE|DeAd, so what do i do next?
[06:35] <CostaRicanQuaker> to play both at once
[06:35] <McDoogle> does anybody have a Belkin N1 router?
[06:35] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> You give me time, I am not here 100% of the time to reply back to just you.
[06:35] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> :)
[06:36] <McDoogle> buffoon
[06:36] <CostaRicanQuaker> CoUrPsE|DeAd, me?
[06:36] <Frijolie> CostaRicanQuaker, that the new Rick Roll?
[06:36] <CostaRicanQuaker> rick roll?
[06:36] <bling> tien: yes, but i have used it on a different machine where it worked absolutely flawlessly.  to me at least, it would be more worth my while to find a way to get it working through the GUI, but you may wish to do otherwise.
[06:37] <Bogaurd> i've got tightvncserver installed, as well as gnome-core and gdm. how can I have tightvnc open to a GDM login prompt? I dont want to attach to an existing screen, i want to spawn a new one..
[06:37] <bling> tien: since im interested in the answer to the GUI question, ill ask it.
[06:38] <Frijolie> CostaRicanQuaker, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI
[06:38] <tien> bling, thanks for your time....I might find the way to download vpnc from outside of Ubuntu, then confiugre it from there....
[06:38] <biouser> do you think that we could roll-back the ekiga version in the repos... wouldn't want to get too bleeding edge there
[06:38] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Bogaurd, Well thats not possible,
[06:38] <CostaRicanQuaker> frijolia that video is not vailable in my country
[06:38] <Bogaurd> CoUrPsE|DeAd - why not?
[06:38] <bling> anybody know whats wrong if all of the buttons in the VPN connections manager (with vpnc installed) are grayed out?
[06:38] <biouser> anyone have ekiga + pulse audio working and liking the behavior?
[06:38] <CostaRicanQuaker> Frijolie *
[06:38] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> coz VNC veiws what the computer is viewing at the time.
[06:38] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> its not a seperate login.
[06:39] <Frijolie> CostaRicanQuaker, hehe
[06:39] <Frijolie> biouser, I dumped PA a while back
[06:39] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> VNC simplys passes information back and forth with whats happening.
[06:39] <biouser> Frijolie pulse audio will be breaking new ground, now just broken
[06:39] <Grayvon> In windows you can put .log at the beginning of a notepad or word document and then anytime you open it the date and time are automatically written before you cursor.  Is there a similar command in ubuntu?
[06:39] <Frijolie> biouser, some day we'll get skype
[06:39] <tien> so how do we figure out to ungray the VPN tab ?
[06:39] <Bogaurd> CoUrPsE|DeAd: you can setup VNC to do whatever you like, it's only a protocol. I'm not talking about installing the default package and using the default settings.
[06:40] <Frijolie> biouser, and I don't see a shovel in their hand(s) anytime soon
[06:40]  * regeya isn't liking pulseaudio, period, biouser
[06:40] <Bogaurd> CoUrPsE|DeAd: I already have it spawning new sessions, but with the X session manager, not GDM
[06:40] <biouser> Frijolie I would much prefer to go open-source of course
[06:40] <regeya> then again, I don't have any hardware that DOESN'T have Intel HDA
[06:40] <josephnexus> hello everyone
[06:40] <josephnexus> i'm running ubuntu 8.10 and installed the lamp packages...
[06:40] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> I thought you were simply running vnc server, then connecting and expected mircles.
[06:41] <yme> Hi is anybody there?
[06:41] <regeya> turn the switch and the light will turn on, josephnexus
[06:41] <biouser> 8.10 is way better for pulse audio than 8.04 at least
[06:41] <regeya> if not, replace the bulb!
[06:41] <Frijolie> biouser, yeah *prefer*
[06:41] <regeya> goodnight
[06:41] <josephnexus> i can connect to my db server using phpmyadmin.. and I can create dbs and so on, but I can't connect to the db using any other method
[06:41] <yme> I've got a problems with my mounted drivers
[06:41] <josephnexus> for example... mysql from the terminal doesn't le tme connect... and my php app can't connect... i've made a new user in phpmyadmin and ensure it has the permissions that I need... anyone have any ideas?
[06:42] <jrgp> any way to get nvidia drivers on jaunty yet?
[06:42] <biouser> josephnexus sounds like #php perhaps, you should look into a python framewerk :P
[06:42] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Frijolie, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-89455.html
[06:42] <bling> tien: good luck
[06:42] <biouser> josephnexus you could stop firestarter if it is running and sudo iptables -F and that might work
[06:42] <josephnexus> it's not a php issue though, since I can't connect anywhere... i've set this up before on 8.04 and such, but this was my first time with 8.10... and the first time i've seen this issue
[06:42] <josephnexus> i'm not running firestarter
[06:42] <josephnexus> but I'll ensure that iptables isn't doing anything
[06:43] <yme> I specified two different entries for two different drivers in /etc/fstab, however Ubuntu exchange the entries
[06:43] <biouser> josephnexus what does iptables -L return?
[06:43] <Shital> hi all
[06:43] <Frijolie> CoUrPsE|DeAd, checking it out as we speak..thanks
[06:43] <josephnexus> Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
[06:43] <josephnexus> target     prot opt source               destination
[06:43] <josephnexus> Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)
[06:43] <josephnexus> target     prot opt source               destination
[06:43] <josephnexus> Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
[06:43] <FloodBot2> josephnexus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:43] <lyte> my sound card has stopped working in the last few days, i seem to recall an alsa update i installed without paying much attention, does anyone know of any known issues?
[06:43] <josephnexus> target     prot opt source               destination
[06:43] <biouser> if all ACCEPT then that is def not the problem
[06:43] <tien> bling,   I saw you asked vpnc,,,,,but I am lost....Thanks so much though.
[06:43] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> 0,o
[06:43] <josephnexus> sry... my bad floodbot2... my apologies
[06:43] <biouser> right josephnexus then I don't know, sounds like users and permissions maybe?
[06:43] <Shital> in Ubuntu-8.10 how can i add an user to sudoers file?
[06:43] <jrgp> any way to get nvidia drivers on jaunty yet?
[06:44] <bling> tien: if you want, i can email you a solution once i find one.  it will make configuring vpnc easier in the future.
[06:44] <biouser> does jaunty have the new ekiga in the repos?
[06:44] <yme> can anyone help with mount?
[06:44] <biouser> yme perhaps
[06:44] <adamzyg> Shital , visudo
[06:44] <yme> Hi biouser
[06:45] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> CostaRicanQuaker, Dont know where it is sorry.
[06:45] <scunizi> !myphpadmin
[06:45] <yme> biouser, I have two external USB HD, for which I entered two different entries in /etc/fstab
[06:45] <scunizi> !phpadmin
[06:45] <biouser> yme okay
[06:45] <liquid> has neone had random wireless disconnects with ubuntu 8.10?  It's the reason I do not use it.
[06:45] <yme> biouser, however randomly Ubuntu will exchange the destinations
[06:46] <tien> bling, yes.....please....BTW: I just find the way of running vpnc manual (cmd)...I am figuring it out....But I hope you  plscould send me the email. would you
[06:46] <bling> tien: pm me your email and i will.  :-)
[06:46] <scunizi> !mysqladmin
[06:46] <Dunaz> hey
[06:47] <tien> bling, my email<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:47] <biouser> yme destinations as in mount points?
[06:47] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> CostaRicanQuaker, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=686624
[06:47] <kinja-sheep> tien: Thanks.  I'll start spamming your emails.
[06:47] <yme> biouser, yes.
[06:47] <scunizi> Whats a good gui front end for managing mysql?
[06:47] <biouser> scunizi the one that synaptic tell you about when you search MySQL in synaptic
[06:47] <Dunaz> somebody can help...i need to know, how to install my ATI Xpress 200 m
[06:48] <bebe> oooooooooiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[06:48] <yme> scunizi, look for MySQL Administration tools on MySQL website
[06:48] <adamzyg> Mysql query Browser
[06:48] <Frijolie> CoUrPsE|DeAd, what qualifies as the <super> key? the "window's key"?
[06:48] <Dunaz> eae bebe
[06:48] <scunizi> biouser, kmysqladmin.. but I thought there was another that was more recommended....
[06:48] <biouser> mysql-admin package
[06:49] <tien> kinja sheep, what do you mean to spam my email
[06:49] <Dunaz> ai bebe você é da onde?
[06:49] <biouser> scunizi with mysql-query-browser I think or some helper program so that you can actually edit the tables
[06:49] <syockit> Is phpmyadmin considered a gui? But to me it's a gui
[06:49] <Flannel> !br | Dunaz
[06:49] <biouser> yme you can just mount without fstab, right?
[06:50] <scunizi> biouser, just hadn't scrolled down enough. thanks.
[06:50] <Dunaz> ok...sorry.
[06:50] <yme> biouser, no worries
[06:50] <pun_jiwan> हि
[06:50] <yme> biouser, how?
[06:50]  * josephnexus feels like an idiot... I suppose if I remembered what my password was that would help... i remembered it and now I can connect
[06:50] <josephnexus> :-P
[06:51] <Frijolie> CoUrPsE|DeAd, nope article didn't help...thanks for trying
[06:51] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Frijolie, I dont know, :(
[06:51] <tv7497> _Vi_: sir i just avant worked cool here is the screen shot http://<IP_ADDRESS>  sir how do i make this little tool bar go away in back of the avant toolbar
[06:51] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Frijolie, okies, /me looks again.
[06:51] <Frijolie> CoUrPsE|DeAd, I'm thinking it's a VirtualBox issue
[06:51] <biouser> yme well I mount my nfs with $sudo mount <IP_ADDRESS>:/from/where /to/this/mount/location
[06:51] <biouser> I think that I had to have portmap and a few other things from
[06:51] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Frijolie, I've never used VB before.
[06:52] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Frijolie, so i dont think i can help ya.
[06:52] <biouser> one of the top hits for NFS ubuntu that I followed
[06:52] <Frijolie> CoUrPsE|DeAd, those keyboard shortcuts on that forum posting and others on Google will resize any window but my guest OS
[06:52] <yme> biouser, yes, but then I'd have to do it everytime I reboot right?
[06:52] <biouser> yme that is correct...
[06:52] <Shital> adamzyg: in that file where i have to include user name to access all the privilages??
[06:52] <Frijolie> CoUrPsE|DeAd, and the boneheads in the VBox IRC chat room aren't responding
[06:52] <bling> tv7497: you should be able to right click on the panel and click "delete this panel"
[06:52] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> lol.
[06:52] <Frijolie> CoUrPsE|DeAd, thanks for trying
[06:52] <yme> biouser, I'd like this to be done automatically
[06:52] <biouser> yme is there some hidden file in like the gnome settings or something that can interfere with /etc/fstab/ ? I don't know
[06:52] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> np.
[06:53] <biouser> yme so it always mounts it just changes location?
[06:53] <tv7497> bling: thank you sir :)
[06:53] <yme> biouser, the worse thing is that it doesn't happen always. For instance I declared two entries: /dev/sdc1 <mount point a> and /dev/sdd1 <mount point b>
[06:54] <yme> biouser, sometimes <mount point a> points to /dev/sdd1 sometimes to /dev/sdc1 and viceversa
[06:54] <adamzyg> Shital, not always
[06:54] <lyte> what's the volume control called in gnome?
[06:55] <tv7497> bling: how can i make avant start up as soon as the desktop starts is there any option ?
[06:55] <biouser> yme these are usb drives?
[06:55] <yme> biouser, yes
[06:56] <Shital> adamzyg: i just want to include my user name to sudoers file, but which line?
[06:56] <bling> tv7497: yes, i think theres an option in avant to do it, but i cant remember where.  if there isnt an option, you can add it to your session by going to System > Preferences > Sessions and clicking add and then asking in this channel what to add (I dont know that either).
[06:56] <adamzyg> Shital, satisfy yours needs
[06:56] <biouser> yme so maybe you are changing the order in which they are plugged in, to which usb inlet, I don't know I am out of my league here, how does ubuntu know which is to be sdc1 and which is to be sdc2?
[06:56] <Ahmuck_Jr> !ubuntu-ce
[06:56] <Ahmuck_Jr> does anyone know if ubuntu-ce has a irc channel?
[06:57] <jrgp> guys
[06:57] <jrgp> is there a jaunty nvidia driver or not?
[06:57] <yme> biouser, the drives have been assigned a name during partitioning. So /dev/sdc1 always refers to one disk, /dev/sdd1 always refers to another disk. The difference is in the mount points
[06:57] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Ubuntu will search the usb root hubs and then put them in /dev as they go.
[06:58] <adamzyg> root    ALL=(ALL)   ALL
[06:58] <adamzyg> Shital ALL=(ALL)   ALL
[06:58] <yme> biouser, it's like somehow Ubuntu looses the mount points for the drives
[06:58] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> yme, The /dev/sd* change.
[06:58] <biouser> yme the entries in fsatb actually change??
[06:59] <yme> CoUrPsE|DeAd, what do you mean?
[06:59] <adamzyg> Shital, this is the easiest way.
[06:59] <Shital> which one?
[06:59] <adamzyg> Shital, after the line of "root ALL=(ALL) ALL"
[06:59] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> yme, if one is plugged in before the other, or is first in line at the usb root devices, then it will be made sdc, if the other drive is first in line, it well be sdc otherwise sdd.
[07:00] <Shital> adamzyg: k after this line, i should add "user_name ALL=(ALL) ALL"???
[07:01] <adamzyg> yeah ^_^
[07:01] <Flannel> Shital: Why do you want to add your user to the sudoers file?
[07:01] <yme> CoUrPsE|DeAd, are you saying that also the internal name can change? I thought I assigned the names during partitioning. So how am I going to solve this problem?
[07:01] <tv7497> bling: thanks found this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=555781 will restart and let you know
[07:01] <Flannel> Shital: You just need to grant access to the user?
[07:02] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> yme, Keep them in the same place, or plug em back in the same place every time you use em.
[07:02] <yme> CoUrPsE|DeAd, the devices are always plugged to the box
[07:02] <Shital> i want the user also to have all the access rights as root
[07:02] <afroken> hi, is there a way to install nvidia drivers from terminal?
[07:02] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> yme, the mount point isnt changing at all, its doing what you told it to do in fstab, its just the order of devices have changed.
[07:02] <yme> CoUrPsE|DeAd, I never change the location
[07:02] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Hummm.
[07:03] <ganesh> how to log in as root in ubuntu?
[07:03] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> ganesh, su root
[07:03] <Flannel> ganesh: Use sudo instead.
[07:03] <Flannel> Shital: Just add the user to the "admin" group
[07:03] <biouser> how unrecommended would it be to update-manager -d to jaunty right now?
[07:03] <ganesh> CoUrPsE|DeAd: i tried but it is not accepting the password
[07:03]  * CoUrPsE|DeAd nods with Flannel, There should be no need to login as root. sudo is fine.
[07:03] <Flannel> Shital: You don't need to edit sudoers at all.
[07:04] <Flannel> biouser: Jaunty is alpha software.
[07:04] <yme> CoUrPsE|DeAd, do you think it would be worthwhile trying to exchange the entries and see what happens?
[07:04] <Shital> Flannel: how to do that?
[07:04] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> ganesh, root passwd is different to your normal password, you entered your root password when installed ubuntu.
[07:04] <Flannel> Shital: sudo adduser username admin
[07:04] <ganesh> Flannel:i tried using sudo with cp command it showes some error
[07:04] <TTilus> if i conf  sys -> settings -> proxy, will updates obey it too?
[07:04] <werdnum> child what?
[07:04] <Flannel> CoUrPsE|DeAd, ganesh: No, the root password doesn't exist.
[07:04] <Flannel> ganesh: what error?
[07:05] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Flannel?
[07:05] <Flannel> CoUrPsE|DeAd: You don't set a root password during the install.
[07:05] <ganesh> Flannel: omitting the directory from where i was copying
[07:05] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Well then mine must be diff.
[07:05] <Flannel> ganesh: That's not a sudo issue then, thats a cp issue.
[07:05] <a_l_e> is there a good way to install oo.org 3.0 for 8.04?
[07:05] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> yme, Are they wrong every time?
[07:05] <Rishab> hi all
[07:06] <syockit> ganesh: you're copying a directory?
[07:06] <biouser> In software testing terminology alpha testing is done by the client in the presence of the tester or developers and the test environment is not open for the end user.
[07:06] <syockit> ganesh: you'd need the -r parameter
[07:06] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Flannel, Im pretty sure i did, and i can su root, and stick in a diff passwd to my sudo passwd, and it logs in.
[07:06] <Rishab> while trying to restart my network service i am getting error msg "Reconfiguring network interfaces...SIOCADDRT: File existsFailed to bring up eth0.done."
[07:06] <ganesh> syockit: let me try yes i was copying a directory
[07:06] <yme> CoUrPsE|DeAd, from what I can see this happens randomly
[07:06] <biouser> 8.04-8.10 helped my audio so much but not enough... it is tempting to try jaunty
[07:07] <Flannel> biouser: Right, Jaunty is not fit for normal users.  Alpha software generally is day to day.  Today's upgrades may break something that was working just fine  yesterday.
[07:07] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> yme, Then im just as confused as you.
[07:07] <Flannel> CoUrPsE|DeAd: Then you're not using Ubuntu
[07:07] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> lol.
[07:07] <syockit> ganesh: So it'd be like: sudo cp -r <directory> <target>
[07:07] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Pretty sure i am..