[16:41] <mitya57> Hi! Importer from Debian experimental doesn't seem to be working. Probably because codename was changed from experimental to rc-buggy.
[16:42] <mitya57> I couldn't find any public announcement for that change, but see e.g. https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=770271.
[16:49] <cjwatson> mitya57: Is there any reason to believe this isn't a mistake on the Debian side?  It's somewhat disruptive, after all (breaks existing debmirror configurations, causes users to need to acknowledge the codename change, ...)
[16:51] <mitya57> cjwatson: https://bugs.debian.org/704124 (and two merged bugs) was closed recently by Joerg Jaspert, who is a FTP master. So probably it was an intentional change.
[16:52] -ubottu:#launchpad- Debian bug 704124 in ftp.debian.org "Codenames of distribution symlinks are not listed in Release files" [Normal, Open]
[17:59] <cjwatson> mitya57: I guess.  Could you file a bug and we'll see if we can figure out how best to deal with it?  I want to avoid ending up having to rename the series in LP.
[17:59] <mitya57> Bug against Launchpad, right?
[18:11] <cjwatson> mitya57: Yeah, that'll do
[18:11] <cjwatson> (Strictly speaking the relevant code is only currently a loose script on the relevant server rather than actually committed anywhere, but I'm working on that separately ...)
[18:15] <mitya57> cjwatson: bug 2012828
[18:15] -ubottu:#launchpad- Bug 2012828 in Launchpad itself "Import from Debian experimental stopped working" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2012828
[18:15] <cjwatson> Might just be a matter of adding the --allow-dist-rename option to debmirror, but I'll need to test that
[18:15] <cjwatson> Thanks
[18:21] <mitya57> Sorry for bothering you on Sunday.
[18:24] <cjwatson> I'm not going to actually work on it today anyway (it'd require sysadmins who probably aren't around for non-emergencies)


[19:10] <adom> shameless callout for fellow geeks interested in joining a noob Pathfinder tabletop campaign.


[05:55] <didrocks> good morning
[06:04] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers!
[06:05] <didrocks> salut oSoMoN
[06:05] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks
[06:10] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[06:10] <seb128> lut didrocks oSoMoN
[06:12] <oSoMoN> salut seb128
[06:20] <didrocks> re seb128
[06:33] <duflu> Morning didrocks, oSoMoN, seb128
[06:33] <didrocks> hey duflu, how goes?
[06:34] <duflu> didrocks, going well. You?
[06:36] <didrocks> duflu: excellent!
[06:36] <didrocks> seb128: Laney: so, Allison +1 on us distro-patching glib with it
[06:37] <didrocks> muktupavels: ^
[06:37] <duflu> oSoMoN, after this morning's updates you will find totem and mpv use VAAPI by default with no parameters required. All working in both Xorg and Wayland sessions. Although I strongly recommend mpv because totem's performance is still pretty bad, for other reasons
[06:37] <didrocks> she won't have time to write tests before merging before some days
[06:38] <seb128> hey duflu , how are you?
[06:38] <duflu> seb128, I'm OK. You?
[06:38] <seb128> I'm good thanks
[06:38] <seb128> duflu, totem performances look like something we might be able to resolve this cycle as well? or more fundamental issues?
[06:39] <duflu> seb128, I will look at it very soon. Hopefully this cycle it will be resolved
[06:40] <seb128> great
[06:40] <duflu> seb128, crucially I have now excluded most of the clutter-gst  performance issues that the totem maintainer pointed at. Now clutter-gst performs well and it's only totem that doesn't
[06:43] <oSoMoN> duflu, that's great, well done on tackling this!
[06:43] <seb128> is that because totem uses clutter-gst?
[06:44] <duflu> seb128, yes totem only uses cluttergst. So it seems nobody ever looked into the performance issues yet, just assuming it was all cluttergst
[06:44] <seb128> Bastien was his typical agressive on https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=783850 :-/
[06:45] <duflu> seb128, that's fine. I will assume he's right until totally proven otherwise. No need to upset him
[06:47] <duflu> All further comments are pure speculation
[06:48] <seb128> right
[08:11] <willcooke> morning
[08:11] <seb128> good morning willcooke
[08:11] <seb128> how are you today?
[08:11] <davmor2> morning willcooke seb128 and all
[08:11] <willcooke> I'm ok, bit of sunshine again instead of November like it was all day yesterday
[08:13] <seb128> hey davmor2, how are you?
[08:13] <willcooke> Hi davmor2!
[08:13] <duflu> Morning willcooke
[08:14] <willcooke> afternoon duflu, how goes?
[08:15] <duflu> willcooke, goes OK. 95% today... https://trello.com/c/3tMZbqwd
[08:15] <duflu> (I separated the cards)
[08:16] <davmor2> seb128: well I manage to grip to the outside of this spinning space rock for another 366 days, I'm gainfully employed again and I have a wonderful wife so not at all bad :D
[08:16] <willcooke> Congrats duflu - this is awesome!
[08:16] <willcooke> davmor2, are you still working from home?
[08:17] <davmor2> I am currently but it will be from customer sites
[08:17] <willcooke> oSoMoN, how do you feel about shipping those patches in Cr. in Ubuntu?
[08:17] <willcooke> oSoMoN, vs waiting for them to land upstream
[08:19] <willcooke> davmor2, neat! Getting out and about is always fun
[08:30] <oSoMoN> willcooke, I’d rather wait for them to land upstream, but given that they won't apply before the 62 branch, that gives us almost 12 weeks
[08:31] <oSoMoN> I mean, if we decide to ship them as a distro patch, that would be in 12 weeks at the earliest
[08:31] <oSoMoN> so hopefully they will have landed upstream by then
[08:34] <davmor2> willcooke: lots of experience on different platforms and setups is the biggy for me.
[08:34] <willcooke> oSoMoN, ack, thanks
[08:35] <willcooke> davmor2, mainly linux?
[08:37] <davmor2> willcooke: I suspect not, especially as the first thing I had to do was create an office 365 account :D
[08:37] <willcooke> :)
[08:39] <davmor2> willcooke: on a plus side I now understand why businesses love the outlook suite and why people say that evolution/thunderbird/kontact and others suck
[08:40] <seb128> why?
[08:47] <willcooke> seb128, I think we have some kind of psychic link going on here :)  I just thought "Oh, I wonder what's happening with the Rhythmbox plugin MIR..." and you just updated the bug :) \o/
[08:47] <seb128> willcooke, :-)
[08:47] <seb128> hopefully cyphermox ack it next
[08:47] <davmor2> seb128: the integration between mail/calendar/todo is just so much better than on any of the linux apps I've used.  All the linux apps seem positively clunky and backward in comparison.  It's just a feel thing more than anything else
[08:48] <seb128> davmor2, linux users use gmail and google calendar anyway right? ;-)
[08:48] <willcooke> :)
[08:50] <davmor2> seb128: which is just as sucky as the desktop apps :P  for example had an interview for the one company, dragged the email to calendar icon, it set up the appointment in the calendar with all the relevant details from the email
[09:33] <seb128> k, I start early and I'm starving, time to get some lunch
[09:57] <muktupavels> didrocks: gnome bug 357058? did you put correct bug number in changelog?
[10:03] <didrocks> muktupavels: waow, was I flying high? no number matches https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=746592
[10:03] <didrocks> muktupavels: anyway, once upstreamed, we'll just sync back from debian
[10:04] <didrocks> so the changelog will be history
[13:57] <Mirv> davmor2: sounds fun! I also now got my first ever o365 account, although I've logged in maybe twice in two months and found it horribly slow and awful - maybe it gets better but it seems similar to all the electron apps in its slowness. But I set up the calendar in Thunderbird so I haven't needed to use the web interface anymore (e-mail isn't being used from there)
[13:58] <Mirv> I also found the UX very unintuitive - for example I was able to show a calendar but I couldn't create events to it before finding a way to actually "join" that calendar, and nothing guided the first-timer to do that
[13:59] <Mirv> but sure since there's only Evolution which has all of the stuff baked in by default and it's not exactly a masterpiece, the integration is probably better and speed wouldn't be an issue with native versions of those features
[14:01] <Mirv> anyway, it's not the technical or UX goodness of it that has businesses lured into it, but the general vendor lock-in traps everywhere starting from the document formats. so it wouldn't really help if linux had the perfect suite either.
[14:02] <davmor2> Mirv: I just leave it open in a tab
[14:02] <davmor2> no issues then
[14:03] <Mirv> davmor2: noooo.. that's the last thing I want, o365, slack or some such to be ever executing javascript in the background
[14:03] <Mirv> for slack I obviously set it up in irssi ;)
[14:03] <Mirv> I'm on my laptop and often on the move so battery life matters
[14:04] <Mirv> anyway, it wouldn't hurt if there was a good linux bundle with actual productization and marketing there that would be the clear "winner". sure there are good ones out there but none have the visibility of eg OpenOffice [sic]
[14:12] <cyphermox> seb128: willcooke: rhythmbox-toolbar-oh-my-god-such-a-long-name MIR is acked :)
[14:13] <willcooke> cyphermox, thanks!
[14:15] <didrocks> is it a new plugin that needs to be enabled by default ?
[14:15] <didrocks> (just to know, I have a pending ubuntu-settings for next week, just give me a head's up if I'll need to refresh based on it)
[14:22] <willcooke> didrocks, yeah new default plugin
[14:31] <seb128> cyphermox, great, thanks
[14:31] <seb128> didrocks, yes, I'm going to change that later today
[14:31] <didrocks> seb128: ok, keep me posted so that I can rebase my commits
[14:31] <seb128> k
[14:31] <didrocks> if only git rebase :p
[14:31] <didrocks> I'll just merge I think
[14:33] <ricotz> chrisccoulson, hi, I am not very happy with the debian/changelog of your firefox 55 upload
[14:38] <seb128> ricotz, hey, what's the issue with it?
[14:41] <ricotz> seb128, hi, basically dropped credits
[14:42] <seb128> :-/
[14:43] <seb128> when I plug my phone to my laptop GNOME displays a notification "android" (https://bug786115.bugzilla-attachments.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=357343)
[14:43] <seb128> how useful
[14:43] <seb128> I understand the intend but it wouldn't be that difficult to have a description that says something
[14:43] <seb128> like "'android' device detected"
[14:43] <seb128> </GNOME rant of the day>
[15:49] <seb128> bah, rhythmbox upload rejected
[15:49] <seb128> jbicha, seems like you didn't commit your previous upload to the vcs :-/
[15:51] <seb128> jbicha, can you commit it?
[15:53] <seb128> brb, changing location
[15:58] <kenvandine> oSoMoN, your hack in prepare to add a ppa should work in cleanbuild right?
[15:59] <kenvandine> flexiondotorg ^^
[16:00] <kenvandine> oh... nevermind :)
[16:06] <oSoMoN> kenvandine, was that really a question for me?
[16:07] <kenvandine> oSoMoN, yes... you had the hack in your chromium snap to add a ppa in prepare
[16:07] <kenvandine> i was trying to do that... but realized i need to do an upgrade as well
[16:07] <kenvandine> oSoMoN, basically i figured it out after i asked you :)
[16:07] <oSoMoN> ok
[16:08] <kenvandine> i wasn't trying to install a specific package, just build against a ppa
[16:08] <kenvandine> it was populating the container before the prepare
[16:08] <kenvandine> so i needed to add an apt upgrade
[16:08] <oSoMoN> right
[16:16] <jbicha> seb128: I guess you should just push to the rhythmbox bzr branch now…
[16:52] <seb128> jbicha, ok
[16:52] <seb128> need to fix also the build issue I introduced by manually repatching after the failed upload :-/
[16:55] <jbicha> seb128: are you intending to work on https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/html/poppler.html ?
[16:56] <jbicha> it overlaps https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/html/gdcm.html
[17:19] <willcooke> night all
[19:44] <seb128> jbicha, I didn't plan to, I sponsored for ricotz, but I'm probably going to have a look/help next week if it's stucked
[21:15] <spazm> I've had bluetooth issues after sleep on 17.10.  What can I do to iogs estigate and report: logs to collect and experiments to run?  (dell xps-13 9360)


 Hi @philipz , I had not tested recovery key option (was a mistake when I think about it) but did so now after reading messages. I confirm the bug. (re @philipz: @saivinob did you notice this zfs bug that ubuntu-tester84d is mentioning)
 Here's what I did (I used Xubuntu iso). 1) Install with lvm+encryption option. 2) Note down the recovery key. 3) At next boot, use recovery key instead of passphrase that we set. 4) The key unlocks the disk and we are able to login.5) Once logged in, used 'luksChangekey' option to change the recovery key. Reboot.6) Use the new (changed) recovery key. Key unlocks and able to boot into system.Redid the test but now with ZF

  (edited)Here's what I did (I used Xubuntu iso). 1) Install with lvm+encryption option. 2) Note down the recovery key. 3) At next boot, use recovery key instead of passphrase that we set. 4) The key unlocks the disk and we are able to login.5) Once logged in, used 'luksChangekey' option to change the recovery key. Reboot.6) Use the new (changed) recovery key. Key unlocks and able to boot into system.Redid the test but no
 Passphrase works @Leokolb. Issue is with recovery key, on ZFS+encryption only. Recovery key on LVM+encryption is OK. (re @Leokolb: At reboot try entering the passphrase)
 tks (re @saivinob: Passphrase works @Leokolb. Issue is with recovery key, on ZFS+encryption only. Recovery key on LVM+encryption is OK.)
 Sorry - I misunderstood the original bug report - and can confirm your findings - thanks again- (re @saivinob: Passphrase works @Leokolb. Issue is with recovery key, on ZFS+encryption only. Recovery key on LVM+encryption is OK.)
 No issues at all @Leokolb 😀 And thank *you* for the confirmation.
 np (re @saivinob: No issues at all @Leokolb 😀 And thank *you* for the confirmation.)


[00:01] <sjamaan> arf
[00:01] <sjamaan> maxb: It imported all revisions and then barfed saying "bzr: ERROR: The specified path is inside a branch. Specify a different URL or a different repository layout (see also 'bzr help svn-layout')."
[00:02] <thumper> sjamaan: I'll try to get dulwich and bzr-git updated together asap
[00:02] <sjamaan> Thanks!
[00:03]  * sjamaan tries the import again with --until=16297
[00:06] <jelmer> thumper, sjamaan: hi
[00:07] <thumper> jelmer: sjamaan was having issues with bzr-svn pulling a particular revision from subversion
[00:07] <thumper> jelmer: also can I take trunk of dulwich and bzr-git?
[00:09] <jelmer> sjamaan: that svn repository appears to require authentication ?
[00:10] <jelmer> thumper: let me check...
[00:11] <sjamaan> jelmer: user 'anonymous', password is empty
[00:12] <sjamaan> jelmer: I think the main issue here is that trunk was removed, so I'm trying to tell it to read trunk@revno
[00:13] <jelmer> sjamaan: if trunk was removed, what are you using now?
[00:13] <sjamaan> git
[00:14] <sjamaan> I want to keep the old revision as an archive on launchpad
[00:14] <sjamaan> "old revision history", I mean
[00:15] <sjamaan> (the git import is just a regular flat file import, no history)
[00:16] <jelmer> sjamaan: so the current svn repo is empty ?
[00:16] <sjamaan> jelmer: Other things are kept in there too
[00:16] <sjamaan> Maybe I can copy the old trunk revision to a tag that's available at HEAD
[00:17] <jelmer> sjamaan: that would work
[00:17] <sjamaan> ok, lemme try
[00:17] <jelmer> sjamaan: after that you should be able to use "bzr branch <url-to-tag>" to import that revision
[00:17] <jelmer> or have launchpad import <url-to-tag>
[00:20] <sjamaan> fsck, I get a 403 forbiddden when trying that
[00:20]  * sjamaan asks around
[00:23] <jelmer> sjamaan: when trying the copy you mean, or the import ?
[00:23] <sjamaan> When trying the copy
[00:23] <sjamaan> It's possible, since I'm not all-powerful in that repo ;)
[00:23] <sjamaan> I'm asking the site's maintainer
[00:35] <sjamaan> No response yet. I'll see tomorrow. Time for sleep
[00:35] <sjamaan> Goodnight, and thanks for the help so far
[00:37] <jelmer> sjamaan: g'night!
[00:42] <thumper> jelmer: so bzr-git and dulwich trunk?
[00:44] <jelmer> thumper: I should probably do some basic QA, but currently distracted by the buildd-manager issue wgrant brought up
[00:44] <thumper> ok
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> hey guys.
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> i am not permitted to access https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[02:06] <lifeless> ActionParsnip: right
[02:06] <lifeless> ActionParsnip: I get the same, I'm not sure if its a bug or just a url that isn't meant to work
[02:06] <wgrant> lifeless: What's the traceback?
[02:06] <spm> it works, for mee.
[02:06] <wgrant> It normally works.
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> can i please be granted acces
[02:07] <lifeless> Unauthorized
[02:07] <wgrant> spm: Well... you do have superpowers.
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> its the search page for the ppas :)
[02:07] <lifeless>     *
[02:07] <lifeless>     * Module zope.traversing.adapters, line 44, in traverse
[02:07] <lifeless>       __traceback_info__: (<SourcePackagePublishingHistory at 0xda4e210>, 'displayname', [])
[02:07] <lifeless> Unauthorized: (<SourcePackagePublishingHistory at 0xda4e210>, 'displayname', 'launchpad.View')<br />
[02:07] <spm> wgrant: yes; ie it's a real url. probably a bug of some sort.
[02:07] <wgrant> lifeless: Aha. Thanks.
[02:07] <wgrant> But that's impossible.
[02:07] <lifeless> wgrant: /edge/launchpad-rev-9336/lib/lp/soyuz/browser/../templates/distribution-ppa-list.pt instance at 0xe4783d0>
[02:08] <lifeless> wgrant: welcome to software
[02:08] <lifeless> ActionParsnip: thanks for reporting this; I'll file a bug on it now.
[02:09] <lifeless> wgrant: soyuz you think?
[02:09] <ActionParsnip> thanks :D
[02:09] <wgrant> Right, but that hasn't changed recently... I am hunting.
[02:09] <wgrant> lifeless: But Soyuz, yes.
[02:09] <lifeless> wgrant: could it be a masked/rethrown error from the db ?
[02:09] <wgrant> The code actually lives in Registry, but that's an accident.
[02:11] <wgrant> Oh.
[02:11] <wgrant> I guess it's probably because one of the last few uploads is in a disabled PPA.
[02:11] <wgrant> spm: Can you confirm that?
[02:11] <wgrant> One of the PPAs in the list should show up greyed out.
[02:12] <spm> 2 most recent. haha
[02:13] <wgrant> So it'll resolve itself in a few minutes, probably.
[02:17] <lifeless> wgrant: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/576168
[02:23] <spm> updated with screen shot a clicky to disabled ppa for further amusement value
[02:24] <lifeless> spm: thanks
[06:56] <easter_egg> someone wakeup?
[07:02] <easter_egg> no? ;~
[07:47] <easter_egg> henninge, good morning :-)
[07:47] <henninge> easter_egg: good morning, you are up early! ;)
[07:48] <easter_egg> henninge, Im a zombie x.X
[07:48] <easter_egg> ahahaha
[07:48] <easter_egg> henninge, can you make a favor to me when my account isn't fixed?
[07:54] <henninge> easter_egg: I don't know yet but I will try harder ...
[07:56] <easter_egg> The brazilian ubuntu documentation team is back to active recently and I am member of this team. The team owners reactivated the mailing list. The problem is I can't join in the list on my launchpad account by reason of which you know...
[07:56] <easter_egg> This is the team:
[07:56] <easter_egg> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-br-doc
[07:56] <easter_egg> Can you join in the mailing list for me?
[07:56] <easter_egg> or know someone that can do this for me?
[07:57] <ricotz> hello, i am trying to copy a package from one ppa to another and always getting an OOPS-1587A595
[07:57] <easter_egg> would be a great favor.
[07:58] <easter_egg> The team owners is pressing me to much
[07:58] <easter_egg> because I need to report my texts to revision
[07:59] <easter_egg> and at this time, I'm asking for someone else to report in my place
[08:00] <easter_egg> henninge, is possible to make this big favor? =]
[08:08] <henninge> easter_egg: done, you are subscribed ... ;)
[08:08] <spm> easter_egg: I've just subbed you manually; but I wonder if perhaps the preferred email address is *preferred*?
[08:09] <spm> easter_egg: the current preferred is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>I suspect the google one may be preferred?
[08:11] <easter_egg> spm, no.. the<EMAIL_ADDRESS>is preferred =]
[08:11] <spm> heh; np; I shall make no further changes
[08:13] <easter_egg> henninge spm, thank you very much. This point in my side when the bug with being fixed
[08:13] <easter_egg> being fixed*
[08:19] <noodles775> ricotz: Yes... it's most likely bug 575426 which is being worked on.
[08:48] <sjamaan> Could someone please assign the branch https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/chicken/main to the "chicken" team?
[08:49] <thumper> sjamaan: I can do that
[08:49] <easter_egg> henninge, The list can receive my emails now. I tested =]
[08:49] <sjamaan> cool
[08:49] <easter_egg> thanks o/
[08:50] <thumper> done
[08:50] <sjamaan> thanks!
[08:50] <sjamaan> I managed to get the svn tree imported into a bzr tree too
[08:50] <easter_egg> And now I will sleep and dream with my account in launchpad working again x))
[08:50] <easter_egg> henninge, what the time for clock here?
[08:50] <easter_egg> henninge, there*?
[08:51] <sjamaan> thumper: What would be the right status of a branch that got moved into another VCS?  'merged' or 'abandoned'?
[08:51] <thumper> sjamaan: abandoned is god
[08:51] <thumper> good
[08:51] <sjamaan> aight
[08:52] <henninge> easter_egg: sweet dreams, it's 9:51 in the morning here! ;)
[08:52] <henninge> easter_egg: and 4:52 where you are, right? ;-)
[08:53] <easter_egg> henninge, Here, the sun has not arrived yet. 3:52, you almost hit
[08:53] <henninge> easter_egg: oh, I thought all of Brazil was on the same time zone.
[08:53] <henninge> I have Recife in my world clock.
[08:55] <easter_egg> henninge, we have three time zones
[08:55] <easter_egg> GTM -2, GTM -3 (Official time zone, of Brazilia) and GTM -4
[08:55] <easter_egg> Im on GTM -4
[08:56] <easter_egg> At Manaus, Amazonas... aka hell
[08:58] <henninge> easter_egg: oh yeah, I heard about that (from someone living in Recife) ;)
[08:58] <henninge> easter_egg: that's really in the middle of nothing, isn't it?
[08:59] <henninge> well, If I dare to call the jungle "nothing" ...
[08:59] <henninge> Also, I found this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Time_zones_in_Brazil-en.png
[09:00] <easter_egg> henninge, Here, the normal temperatures hit of 29 to 36 Celsius
[09:01] <henninge> I should let you sleep now ...
[09:01] <easter_egg> henninge, Im freezing at 24
[09:01] <henninge> that is even hotter than Recife, I admit.
[09:01]  * henninge was in Recife almost two months ago.
[09:01] <easter_egg> henninge, At Manaus, there is less forest than inside the state
[09:03] <easter_egg> Here is just a drab metropolis
[09:03] <easter_egg> But just one think don't make me happy in this town
[09:03] <easter_egg> thing*
[09:04] <easter_egg> the internet
[09:04] <easter_egg> is the world's most expensive
[09:06] <easter_egg> henninge, I pay a sum of money equivalent to US$ 150.00 for 128kB/s
[09:07] <easter_egg> And, if you ask: "The velocity is 128kB/s"? I will say: "No, maybe 60kB/s in the best times of connection"
[09:08] <easter_egg> sometimes I get 122kB/s from apt and some torrents, However it is quite rare
[09:09] <ringods> Hello.
[09:09] <ringods> I am having problems accessing http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/jaunty/scons/jaunty/files
[09:09] <easter_egg> henninge, ok... I will sleep now. I'm dying of sleepiness
[09:10] <easter_egg> thank you very much for help =]
[09:10] <easter_egg> I will back later
[09:15] <ringods> Actually, I seem to have problems on any project using "View branch content"
[09:17] <ringods> I couldn't find any planned maintenance being reported. Anyone else having problems toos?
[09:26] <Pegasus_RPG> hello. LP's revision/code browser is down
[09:28] <ringods> Pegaus_RPG: was this planned, or is it a technical problem that popped up?
[09:30] <wgrant> LOSAs: ^^
[09:40] <Pegasus_RPG> ringods: Oh I have no idea, I'm just reporting the rpboem
[09:40] <Pegasus_RPG> problem
[09:41] <ringods> Pegasus_RPG: I reported the same just before you joined the chat room. But it seems there is no one on support on the 6th of the month
[09:42] <Pegasus_RPG> hrm
[09:43] <ringods> hrm?
[09:47] <Pegasus_RPG> that's a little concerning. Ah well, not critical for us at this point.
[09:48] <ringods> not critical here either, but why reporting if nobody is listening? :-)
[09:49] <thumper> losa is a key word here
[09:50] <thumper> we seem to be short on admins
[09:50] <thumper> there is an event going on
[09:50] <thumper> please be patient
[09:50] <maxb> Also, we seem to have been rather short on CHR people of late.
[09:51]  * thumper is on tomorrow
[10:10] <KIAaze> Is it possible that "package accepted" messages from the PPA are also delayed due to the recent release? Or do Display Name changes affect package submissions?
[10:10] <KIAaze> I tried to dput at least 3 packages these last days and never got any mails
[10:11] <KIAaze> the command-line output always said the upload was successful
[10:11] <noodles775> KIAaze: hi, what's your username, ppa and package? I'll try to find out in the logs.
[10:20] <noodles775> KIAaze: so, just to confirm, your latest upload worked (you got the email?), and the previous one caused a failure (OOPS-1587PPA6) which I can't yet see as the report hasn't been synced.
[10:20] <KIAaze> yes, the latest one worked
[10:20] <noodles775> Great.
[10:20] <KIAaze> after changing the display name
[10:21] <KIAaze> I'm reuploading the other ones to see if it will work
[10:22] <noodles775> Display name changes should not affect package submissions... when the error report is (hopefully) synced we can see the problem.
[10:22] <KIAaze> ok
[10:22] <KIAaze> and it is still possible to submit 8.04 builds?
[10:23] <KIAaze> because at first I though that was the problem
[10:23] <maxb> hardy's still very much alive
[10:23] <wgrant> Hardy's got nearly another three years to live.
[10:45] <oojah> I'm getting consistent oopses trying to copy PPA packages, both on edge and normal: OOPS-1587B831
[10:47] <noodles775> oojah: Sorry, yes that's bug 575426 which is currently being worked on.
[10:48] <oojah> noodles775: Ok, thanks. As long as you're aware of it! :)
[10:48] <noodles775> erm, StevenK, can you update the status of that ^^ :)
[11:16] <KIAaze> just got an oops copying packages too.
[11:40] <dholbach> hola
[11:40] <dholbach> could it be that we have no packagesets for maverick yet?
[11:41] <dholbach> jelmer, noodles775: ^ do you guys know?
[11:42] <noodles775> dholbach: it could be... I'll find out what needs to be done.
[11:42] <dholbach> thanks a bunch - bug 576242
[11:42] <dholbach> (it was a bug in the sponsoring tracking - every package turned out to be "not in any packageset" :-))
[11:43]  * dholbach hugs noodles775
[11:43]  * noodles775 hugs back
[11:47] <noodles775> dholbach: so yes, there's a script that needs to be run to clone the pkg sets from the previous release... I've pinged cjwatson who has the power :)
[11:47] <dholbach> awesome!
[11:48] <dholbach> maybe it should be included in the "this is how we do releases documentation"
[11:48] <dholbach> I can mention it to slangasek
[11:50] <noodles775> Yep.
[11:51] <dholbach> thanks noodles775
[12:41] <apw> are we expecting PPAs to be able to accept uploads for maverick yet?  i seem to be getting rejected with the somewhat cryptic error below:
[12:41] <apw> Rejected:
[12:41] <apw> Cannot build any of the architectures requested: any
[12:42] <wgrant> apw: Not yet.
[12:42] <apw> wgrant, when might we expect that to change?  whats the gating feature?
[12:42] <wgrant> It hasn't been turned on, and turning it on is in the new release cycle process.
[12:42] <wgrant> So it might just have not been got to yet.
[12:42] <wgrant> Hmmm.
[12:43] <wgrant> Hm, it looks like it should have been done days ago.
[12:44] <wgrant> Ah, no, toolchain's not done yet.
[12:44] <wgrant> apw: PPAs are meant to open when the new series does. Maverick is still frozen for toolchain changes.
[12:45] <apw> wgrant, ahh ok waiting for toolchain freeze is it ... sigh ... thanks ... i guess i'll let the cronjob waste its time then
[12:45] <apw> thanks for the info
[12:51] <sangi> while trying to install loggerhead ./serve-branches is throwing an error like this: import bzrlib.foreign ImportError: No module named foreign
[12:51] <wgrant> sangi: #bzr may be more help.
[12:52] <sangi> wgrant, ok
[12:52] <jelmer> sangi: the version of bzr you're using is too old
[12:53] <sangi> jelmer, bzr version is 1.5-1
[12:53] <jelmer> sangi: I'd recommend using at least 2.0 if you're using a recent version of loggerhead
[12:53] <sangi> jelmer, ok
[13:09] <lamothe> Hi all, who/what controls the featured projects on the LP "home page"?
[14:15] <leonardr> losas (mthaddon, Chex): i need to take a look at launchpad's production apache configuration in preparation for filing an rt to change it. can you induct me into this secret?
[14:22] <Chex> leonardr: hi, I can take a look at that for you, give me a few
[14:23] <leonardr> chex, thanks
[14:30] <mjg59> Hi
[14:30] <mjg59> I have a deactivated launchpad account that I'd like to reactivate. The "Mail me my password" link doesn't appear to actually do so.
[14:45] <cody-somerville> mjg59, what account?
[15:02] <mjg59> cody-somerville<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[15:04] <cody-somerville> mjg59, mjg59 being your launchpad id?
[15:05] <leonardr> Chex, ping re production apache configuration
[15:06] <mjg59> Yeah
[15:06] <cody-somerville> mjg59, Reactivated your account for you.
[15:06] <cody-somerville> Try using the "forgot password" to log in now.
[15:10] <mjg59> cody-somerville: Thanks!
[15:12] <cody-somerville> mjg59, No problem. Welcome back to Launchpad :-)
[15:14] <mjg59> cody-somerville: Hm.   Lets see if you get that.
[15:19] <wgrant> Both SSO services just sent password reset emails to me without trouble.
[15:22] <mjg59> cody-somerville: Yes, the test email came through
[15:23] <mjg59> FWIW, even though my account is deactivated, I'm still getting all the bug mail for things like the kernel and acpi-support
[15:23] <mjg59> So mail from launchpad to me works in the general case
[15:29] <cody-somerville> mjg59, what page are you trying to reset your page on?
[15:29] <mjg59> launchpad.net, I click the "Forgot my password" link
[15:30] <mjg59> https://login.launchpad.net/GJTT08xQnLkCgvGg/+forgot_password to be precise
[15:33] <cody-somerville> losas: ^^
[17:24] <alkisg> Hi, I'm trying to copy packages from one of my ppas to another of my ppas (Lucid to Lucid, copy existing binaries). And I'm getting
[17:24] <alkisg> Oops! Sorry, something just went wrong in Launchpad. We’ve recorded what happened, and we’ll fix it as soon as possible. Apologies for the inconvenience. (Error ID: OOPS-1587F1500)
[17:24] <alkisg> I tried 2-3 times, the same. Should I retry later on? Or change some of the options (e.g. recompile)?
[17:35] <alkisg> I also tried specifying Lucid as the series, and telling it to recompile, but again I got an oops. It looks like I'll have to reupload... :(
[18:38] <Meths> Can you approve merge proposals by email?
[18:39] <beuno> Meths, yes, but you need to sign the emails IIRC
[18:40] <Meths> Oh, okay, thanks.
[19:07] <BlindFreakazoid> hi, I have a problem: this branch https://code.launchpad.net/~konradgraefe/pidgin-birthday-reminder/trunk seems to be updating forever :(
[19:09] <BlindFreakazoid> (I noticed it some hours ago...after http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~konradgraefe/pidgin-birthday-reminder/trunk/files it is updating for more then 15 hours now)
[19:19] <alkisg> Is launchpad down?
[19:19] <KIAaze> is launchpad down?
[19:20] <beuno> KIAaze, alkisg, we're having network issues
[19:20] <beuno> should be fixed in a few minutes
[19:20] <alkisg> Thank you
[19:20] <KIAaze> ok, thanks
[19:20] <beuno> should be back now
[19:21] <alkisg> Yup, it's fine
[19:27] <maxb> alkisg: Several copy-packages related things broke in the last rollout, your OOPS is probably bug 575426
[19:28] <alkisg> maxb, thank you, I'll watch that bug. For the moment I reuploaded to the other ppa.
[19:51] <KIAaze> do source packages for intrepid get deleted automatically?
[19:52] <KIAaze> can't get https://launchpad.net/~cae-team/+archive/ppa/+files/candystore_0.0.5.orig.tar.gz anymore
[19:52] <KIAaze> .debs are still downloadable
[20:25] <maxb> KIAaze: Given that that is source for a published version, the fact that that link is broken is a bug
[20:26] <KIAaze> known bug?
[20:29] <maxb> It might be. I am unsure
[20:35] <maxb> KIAaze: bug 522800. thought I'd seen it before
[20:38] <bilalakhtar> People, is it possible to create PPAs for debian? if so, how?
[20:38] <KIAaze> thanks maxb
[20:38] <beuno> bilalakhtar, not possible, no
[20:40] <bilalakhtar> beuno: But when I go to https://launchpad.net/debian
[20:40] <bilalakhtar> beuno: it shows on the right hand side a link for debian PPAs.
[20:41] <maxb> The support is vestigial. It really shouldn't be shown
[20:41] <bilalakhtar> beuno: and sabdfl said something about it yesterday
[20:41] <bilalakhtar> beuno: I am posting what he said about it
[20:43] <bilalakhtar> beuno: maxb: see this http://paste.ubuntu.com/429123/
[20:44] <beuno> bilalakhtar, that means it's a good idea, not that it's done
[20:44] <bilalakhtar> beuno: ohk
[20:45] <bilalakhtar> beuno: yeah, it should really be done, since launchpad should be an open development environment, not one that is limited to ubuntu
[20:45] <beuno> bilalakhtar, sure, it's open source, anyone can contribute a patch for that
[20:46] <bilalakhtar> beuno: Anyone can do that, but, the final decision HAS to be taken by canonical
[20:46] <maxb> Not really. This requires commitment of builder machines in the datacentre
[20:46] <maxb> beuno: ^
[20:46] <beuno> maxb, I think that's the easiest part
[20:46] <beuno> bilalakhtar, I think it's taken, just needs the work done
[20:47] <bilalakhtar> maxb: What canonical could do is, assign a few machines for building for other distros, while appoint the rest for ubuntu
[20:47]  * maxb points to the *2 day* backlog of PPA builds currently and disputes beuno's suggestion that more PPA capacity is easy
[20:47] <beuno> maxb, lucid release
[20:48] <beuno> you can't use that as proof!
[20:48] <bilalakhtar> But one problem that comes in the way is that some distros are RHEL-based, some are Debian mased, some their own, so building for them would be difficult to set up
[20:48] <maxb> beuno: Even after the borrowed builders were returned, the queue is still getting *bigger*
[20:49] <maxb> oh. possibly because the build farm is turned off
[20:49] <maxb> CP in progress?
[20:49] <beuno> I don't know that much about the curent state these days
[20:50] <bilalakhtar> maxb: the major problem here are rebuilds of packages
[20:50] <beuno> bilalakhtar, as far as I am aware, the reason why there aren't any PPAs for Debian is because of the amount of work needed. Nobody has done it.
[20:51] <bilalakhtar> what the hell, why are SO many build machines disabled?
[20:51] <bilalakhtar> https://launchpad.net/builders
[20:52] <maxb> LOSAs: Is the build farm melting, or is it down for maintenance?
[20:52] <KIAaze> concerning the additional debian package building service, something like this would be nice: http://en.opensuse.org/Build_Service ;)
[20:52] <KIAaze> I wonder if it's also possible to add deb repos from there
[20:53] <noodles785> There was an issue with buildd's timing out after 30s and disabling themselves...
[20:53] <bilalakhtar> The problem right now is not the debian ppas, but the BUILD FARM PROBLEM!
[20:53] <psusi> I get this trying to push: Unable to obtain lock lp-69637264:///~psusi/ubuntu/lucid/ureadahead/mine/.bzr/branch/lock held by<EMAIL_ADDRESS>on host crowberry [process #19287] locked 5 hours, 13 minutes ago
[20:53] <psusi> any idea what the deal is?
[20:55] <beuno> psusi, bzr break-lock lp:~psusi/ubuntu/lucid/ureadahead/mine
[20:57] <psusi> how do I know that the process is not still running?
[20:57] <bilalakhtar> PPAs are one of the reasons why I prefer lp over sf
[20:57] <psusi> bzr help says only to do that if you are sure
[20:57] <bilalakhtar> the build farm is slowly limping back to life
[20:58] <noodles785> yeah, I'm re-enabling the ppa builders that have "No route to host" as the error.
[20:59] <KIAaze> psusi, I think I had that once too, but I was the only one using the branch. If that's your case, there shouldn't be a big risk.
[20:59] <psusi> yea, I am... which is why I'm wondering why it was locked by some process on host 'crowberry'
[20:59] <KIAaze> and if it says the lock is held by you, I guess it's ok to break it yourself
[21:00] <beuno> psusi, you may have control+c'ed or something
[21:00] <KIAaze> did a push fail?
[21:00] <psusi> don't think so
[21:00] <bilalakhtar> what is this "crowberry" host for? are ALL the branches on it?
[21:00] <psusi> I have no idea what "crowberry" is
[21:00] <bilalakhtar> psusi: did the branch appear in lp?
[21:00] <beuno> yes, it's the branch server
[21:00] <psusi> think so... haven't checked today... just did a pull earlier, made some changes, and am now trying to push
[21:00] <beuno> psusi, it's held on crowberry because bzr uses a smart server
[21:01] <beuno> it executes commands remotely
[21:01] <bilalakhtar> beuno: ALL the branches are on crowberry?
[21:01] <beuno> bilalakhtar, lets say yes
[21:01] <bilalakhtar> beuno: it means hundreds of GBs on that poor little server
[21:01] <beuno> psusi, there should be no problem in breaking the lock, there won't be anything running for 5 hours
[21:01] <psusi> k...
[21:02] <beuno> I don't think that server is poor at all, it has a very nice house
[21:03] <bilalakhtar> beuno: but, why on one server? that server is the central point of lp... lp can't be anything without code hosting
[21:04] <beuno> bilalakhtar, I think assuming that there are back up servers is a safe bet
[21:04] <bilalakhtar> beuno: yes, of course, backup will be there
[21:05] <bilalakhtar> beuno: well, that server is lucky to be in a canonical office :)
[21:06] <bilalakhtar> I have a question. Did Ubuntu development take place in lp from the beginning? or it was shifted here/
[21:06] <bilalakhtar> ?
[21:07] <beuno> lp wasn't always there, but as soon as it was, Ubuntu used that, yes
[21:08] <persia> Not quite.
[21:08]  * beuno defers to persia
[21:08] <persia> LP was first used for LP: Ubuntu didn't get involved until something like bug #80.
[21:09] <persia> And at that time bugzilla was used for bugs in main, up through something like bug #6000, when Ubuntu switched over to use Malone.
[21:09] <persia> anyway, that was long ago :)
[21:09] <noodles785> OK, all builders are re-enabled.
[21:09] <bilalakhtar> noodles785: congrats, I have been tracking that by refreshing the page
[21:11] <bilalakhtar> well, one thing I didn't understand, sabdfl created his account on lp after bug #1 was filed. on the bug page, it is written that sabdfl filed the bug
[21:11] <bilalakhtar> looks like ubottu can't retrieve bug #1 info
[21:20]  * psusi misses ubuntu bug #1: Microsoft has a dominant market share ;)
[22:06] <TresEquis> anybody know if it is possible to wire up LP bug tracker notification to go to CIA.vc?
[22:31] <KIAaze> sabdfl probably has root powers on launchpad
[22:56] <drubin> Hi guys, who would i be able to pin about https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/canonical-identity-provider/+question/108393
[22:56] <drubin> s/pin/ping
[22:58] <wgrant> Has ISD stopped hiding yet?
[23:28] <thumper> drubin: https://edge.launchpad.net/~canonical-isd-hackers try the contact this team's owner
[23:28] <thumper> drubin: can't hurt
[23:28]  * thumper runs for coffee
[23:28] <drubin> thumper: ye I was hoping to polietly catch some one on IRC guess I will do the more formal stuffs
[23:28] <drubin> thanks
[23:29] <thumper> drubin: well<EMAIL_ADDRESS>, I'll look for his irc nick
[23:30] <thumper> drubin: stuartm
[23:30] <thumper> drubin: not sure if he sits on freenode though
[23:30] <thumper> drubin: also, he is on UK time
[23:30] <drubin> thumper: I will email him
[23:30] <thumper> ok
[23:31] <drubin> thanks
[23:31] <drubin> I just didn't want to spam random people about the ticket
[23:31] <thumper> fair enough
[23:31] <wgrant> Why does the team running the core Ubuntu authentication service not exist publicly?
[23:31] <wgrant> There are several questions a day about c-i-p.
[23:31] <wgrant> Here.
[23:33] <drubin> security by obscurity