[00:00] <JohnTalent> i found a bug in find
[00:00] <JohnTalent> so I call up Richard M. Stallman?
[00:00] <stooped> jnek1127: you can have many partitions all with different file formats.
[00:01] <labeeb32> i am unable to unlock my admin account in ubuntu 14.04. i am using my user password but itts not working
[00:02] <Ben64> labeeb32: don't unlock it, use sudo to gain access when needed
[00:02] <labeeb32> sudo isnt accepting
[00:02] <andy__> hi, is there a way I could export my mysql database via FTP?
[00:02] <Ben64> labeeb32: what is the output of "groups"
[00:02] <jnek1127> stooped: ok well i can't make a new partition in gpart, everything's grayed out. is it cause i'm running off a DVD
[00:03] <labeeb32> i have only one user account which is running as admin too
[00:03] <stooped> jnek1127: Linux seems to work best in ext3. Windows in ntfs.
[00:03] <stooped> jnek1127: sorry meant ext4
[00:03] <labeeb32> i am unable to unlock that user account
[00:04] <labeeb32> mu seudo command password isnt working
[00:04] <JohnTalent> gnu bugs, they'll never be fixed.
[00:05] <labeeb32> ben64?
[00:05] <andy__> hello?
[00:05] <stooped> labeeb32: what are you trying to do with sudo
[00:06] <Ben64> labeeb32: again, what is the output of "groups"
[00:06] <labeeb32> anything i do it ask for password and its not working
[00:06] <labeeb32> what groups are you talking about
[00:06] <Ben64> labeeb32: type "groups" then hit enter. paste the result here
[00:07] <_unreal_> labeeb32, you could also type : groups | pastebinit
[00:07] <labeeb32> khuuram adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[00:08] <stooped> jnek1127: it's because most likely it's formatted in hfs+ journal. Its UN writable in Linux. But u can format it to something else. Then partition it.
[00:08] <labeeb32> khuuram adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[00:09] <labeeb32> thats what i m geting after hiting groups
[00:09] <labeeb32> ben64?
[00:09] <stooped> jnek1127: http://askubuntu.com/questions/332315/how-to-read-and-write-hfs-journaled-external-hdd-in-ubuntu-without-access-to-os
[00:09] <labeeb32> unral?
[00:09] <qwerkus> hello, are there some opcodes available for dash searches, like -iname ?
[00:09] <_unreal_> if your trying to preform sudo task's then you will have to enter a password unless you change the rights
[00:10] <_unreal_> there is a TXT file which controls the rights.
[00:10] <darklieutenant> heelloo
[00:10] <_unreal_> good byeeeee
[00:10] <labeeb32> ben6?
[00:10] <jnek1127> stooped: thanks this is actually helpful, but i meant i couldn't partition my PC's hard drive using gpart for some reason, to make a new drive to copy my files from the external onto
[00:10] <labeeb32> ben64?
[00:11] <_unreal_> jnek1127, ?
[00:11] <Ben64> labeeb32: ok, those groups look fine. you do need to enter the correct password though
[00:11] <_unreal_> typically your required to give root access to even use gpart
[00:11] <labeeb32> my sudo password is not been accepted
[00:12] <Ben64> labeeb32: its the same password as your user
[00:12] <_unreal_> labeeb32, what ever your password for your user NOT root but user is is the sudo password
[00:12] <qwerkus> woot ?
[00:12] <labeeb32> exactly my user is locked but automatically logged in
[00:12] <_unreal_> so long suckers :)
[00:12] <stooped> jnek1127: are you trying to partition the damaged drive or a different one.
[00:12] <labeeb32> i cant unlock y user even
[00:12] <Ben64> labeeb32: define "locked" and "unlock"
[00:12] <_unreal_> ugh got to feed a child
[00:13] <labeeb32> its locked
[00:13] <labeeb32> my admin password is locked
[00:13] <Ben64> labeeb32: there is no admin password
[00:13] <labeeb32> cant change
[00:13] <stooped> labeeb32: try changing it password. Maybe you don't have the right password.
[00:14] <labeeb32> user admin password that i use for sudo
[00:14] <jnek1127> unreal: i have a hfs+ journaled external hard drive for my mac, that i need to reformat in order to repair it. first i want to create a back up of all my files on my PC (on which I'm running ubuntu currently just so i can do this cause it's impossible with windows). So I want to use ubuntu to create a FAT32 partition in order to store my files here while i'm reformatting the drive. but in gparted i can't make partitions on the
[00:14] <stooped> labeeb32: try changing Your password. Maybe you don't have the right password.
[00:14] <ikonia_> there is no admin password
[00:14] <ikonia_> the sudo password is your user password
[00:14] <Ben64> labeeb32: there is no user admin password, there is your password only
[00:14] <labeeb32> look ben
[00:14] <eeee> labeeb32: passwd -u
[00:14] <eeee> run that
[00:14] <andy__> hi, is there a way I could export (and then import) my mysql database via FTP?
[00:15] <labeeb32> i go in root with my root password to change admin account password
[00:15] <ikonia> andy__: yes, mysqldump
[00:15] <labeeb32> but again it dont accept
[00:15] <andy__> ikonia: how do I do it exactly?
[00:15] <Ben64> look labeeb32, you don't know your password. if you did, sudo would work. you can reset your password if you restart and go into recovery mode
[00:15] <labeeb32> okay a list of options i got here
[00:15] <stooped> jnek1127: in four Mac recovery disk you can partition Mac disks.
[00:15] <labeeb32> after this passwrd -u command
[00:16] <stooped> jnek1127: in your Mac recovery disk you can partition Mac disks.
[00:16] <eeee> nevermind
[00:16] <eeee> labeeb32:
[00:16] <ikonia> labeeb32: there is no root password
[00:16] <ikonia> labeeb32: you can't be root
[00:16] <ikonia> andy__: mysqldump then the options for your database then >to_a_file.dump
[00:16] <labeeb32> yep in recovery mood i didnt gave any after this big list
[00:16] <eeee> labeeb32:  type id in your terminal
[00:16] <labeeb32> i am rooted
[00:17] <ikonia> why are you in recovery mode ?
[00:17] <labeeb32> uid=1000(khurram) gid=1000(khurram) groups=1000(khurram),4(adm),24(cdrom),27(sudo),30(dip),46(plugdev),107(lpadmin),124(sambashare)
[00:17] <labeeb32> thats what i get after hiting id
[00:17] <ikonia> labeeb32: then you are not root
[00:18] <labeeb32> ok?
[00:18] <stooped> jnek1127: Your making this complicated. Ubuntu cannot partition ufs+ disks. They can only read them.
[00:18] <ikonia> labeeb32: what's the actual problem, you appear to be just saying random details
[00:19] <andy__> ikonia: I cannot access mysql :(
[00:19] <labeeb32> i cant unlock my admin account
[00:19] <ikonia> andy__: what do you mean ?
[00:19] <eeee> labeeb32: how did you login?
[00:19] <ikonia> labeeb32: what admin account
[00:19] <labeeb32> my sudo password isnt being accepted
[00:19] <ikonia> labeeb32: there is no "admin" account
[00:19] <labeeb32> auto login
[00:19] <ikonia> labeeb32: it's the same password as the one you use to login
[00:19] <eeee> ikonia: he means he can't use sudo, i think he autologged in
[00:19] <andy__> ikonia: how can i query it
[00:19] <ikonia> andy__: what do yo umean how can you query it ?
[00:19] <andy__> if i can't access mysql
[00:20] <labeeb32> log in pass is off
[00:20] <ikonia> andy__: in what aspect?
[00:20] <andy__> well, you said to mysqldump it
[00:20] <labeeb32> i just get in without password
[00:20] <ikonia> andy__: right, mysqldump is a command
[00:20] <andy__> so where do I execute it?
[00:20] <andy__> ubuntu?
[00:20] <Ben64> labeeb32: well you still need your password to use sudo
[00:20] <ikonia> andy__: yes, in a shell
[00:20] <labeeb32> how can i reset all my passwords admin sudo whtever
[00:21] <labeeb32> yes
[00:21] <labeeb32> sudo not working without it
[00:21] <andy__> ikonia: mysqldump [options] db_name
[00:21] <Ben64> labeeb32: there is only one password
[00:21] <eeee> labeeb32: do you have other accounts on the system that are in the sudo group ?
[00:21] <andy__> what options should I put?
[00:21] <andy__> :)
[00:21] <labeeb32> no
[00:21] <labeeb32> only 1 acc
[00:21] <ikonia> andy__: you shouldn't be doing this
[00:21] <ikonia> andy__: if you need this level of instruction, you probably won't have enough understanding of mysql
[00:22] <eeee> labeeb32: do you have a liveusb?
[00:22] <ikonia> andy__: have you looked up the options for the mysqldump command
[00:22] <labeeb32> any other solution ... i dnt have any live usb right nw
[00:23] <stooped> labeeb32: it sounds like u don't know your password
[00:23] <labeeb32> exactly
[00:23] <Ben64> labeeb32: as i said before, you can reset your password using the recovery mode
[00:23] <Crawler> Hey, so I'm currently having a problem with installing fonts-dejavu-core.
[00:23] <Crawler> Anyone able to help me there?
[00:23] <labeeb32> i did that in recovery mode i get these options
[00:23] <stooped> labeeb32: You have to reinstall. Security is security. No way to get it back. Its encrypted.
[00:23] <ikonia> Crawler: that comes from a PPA doesn't it ?
[00:23] <labeeb32> i got stuck here 'i will copy paste
[00:24] <Ben64> stooped: unlikely
[00:24] <labeeb32>   -a, --all                     report password status on all accounts
[00:24] <labeeb32> i get these
[00:25] <Ben64> labeeb32: please don't flood a bunch of lines
[00:25] <labeeb32> after passwrd -u comm
[00:25] <labeeb32> hw do i go further?
[00:25] <Ben64> labeeb32: you need to start in recovery mode
[00:25] <labeeb32> then?
[00:25] <Qwertie> I;m trying to follow the packaging tutorial but when I use "bzr dh-make hello 2.7 hello-2.7.tar.gz" I get "bzr: ERROR: unknown command "dh-make"
[00:25] <Qwertie> "
[00:25] <Ben64> !password | labeeb32
[00:26] <Basketball> eeee, you on
[00:26] <ikonia> Qwertie: contact the tutorial owner, it sounds like it's not installed the required software
[00:26] <trism> Qwertie: sudo apt-get install bzr-builddeb
[00:27] <HerrZakath> so, I try to apt-get install fonts-dejavu-core, but it says it can't find the package.
[00:27] <ikonia> HerrZakath: I believe that package comes from a PPA
[00:27] <HerrZakath> Sorry, I'm new to linux, what is a PPA?
[00:27] <popey> HerrZakath: try ttf-dejavu-core
[00:28] <popey> oh, no, thats the old one, sorry
[00:28] <popey> fonts-dejavu-core is in 14.04 and 14.10 archive
[00:28] <ikonia> popey: is this still part of ubuntu
[00:28] <labeeb32> i started in recovery mode i reached uptil the command passwd useraccont i got a list of options including all del expire etc hw do i proceed frm here ?
[00:28] <popey> fonts-dejavu-core is
[00:28] <Qwertie> Thanks trism
[00:28] <ikonia> I thought it was in a PPA now ?
[00:28] <Ben64> labeeb32: did you look at the link ubottu gave you
[00:29] <popey> rmadison says it is in main
[00:29] <HerrZakath> It tells me that ttf-dejavu-core is already installed with the latest version
[00:29] <HerrZakath> I'm currently running precise
[00:29] <popey> HerrZakath: ahh, its not in precise repo
[00:29] <HerrZakath> Is there any way for me to get it in precise?
[00:30] <labeeb32> i checked and i i got this USAGE: passwd [options] login than a list of options
[00:30] <popey> you could grab the deb from trusty.. http://cz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/fonts-dejavu/fonts-dejavu-core_2.34-1ubuntu1_all.deb
[00:30] <popey> HerrZakath: grab that and "sudo dpkg -i fonts-dejavu-core_2.34-1ubuntu1_all.deb"
[00:30] <Ben64> labeeb32: "passwd <your username>
[00:30] <popey> it has no dependencies
[00:31] <labeeb32> did that and got list of options the same as before
[00:31] <Ben64> labeeb32: what exactly did you type
[00:31] <labeeb32> passwd khurram teaserx
[00:31] <Ben64> labeeb32: thats not what i said to do...
[00:32] <labeeb32> khurram teaserx is my user name
[00:32] <Ben64> no it isn't
[00:32] <netlar> Are some pictures not compatible as wallpaper in ubuntu 14.04?
[00:33] <labeeb32> than what it is?
[00:33] <Ben64> labeeb32: khurram
[00:33] <DoverMo> netlar: why do you ask
[00:33] <labeeb32> lemme try only khurram plz
[00:34] <cynicallemon> wallpaper featuring bill gate is not compatible
[00:34] <HerrZakath> Hey, the dpkg thing worked! Thanks a ton guys.
[00:34] <netlar> Well, some, when I change the wallpaper to that picture file, looks fine on the screen, but the switch user screen shows the orange background instead
[00:35] <netlar> Funny enough the lock screen does show the current wallpaper
[00:35] <DoverMo> netlar: the login manager screen has it's own wallpaper
[00:35] <netlar> DoverMo: So that is changed somewhere else?
[00:36] <DoverMo> netlar: eyup!
[00:36] <eeee> netlar: do you have dconf editor ?
[00:36] <DoverMo> netlar: has to be the right format too
[00:37] <netlar> DoverMo: It is curious, about 90% of the additional wallpapers I get do work everywhere including the login screen
[00:37] <Basketball> eeee,  can we pm
[00:37] <netlar> DoverMo: What format is that?
[00:37] <netlar> eeee: I do have dconf editor
[00:37] <eeee> Basketball: sure
[00:37] <Basketball> eeee,  pm me
[00:37] <eeee> netlar: go to com > canonical > unity-greeter
[00:39] <netlar> eeee: ok there
[00:39] <eeee> netlar: ok, you can change the background there, it's the first line, as well as remove the dots and what not
[00:40] <DoverMo> not the precious dots
[00:40] <netlar> eeee: But why does most of my user wallpapers work, and not some
[00:41] <labeeb32> ben64
[00:41] <labeeb32> i did with khurram only
[00:41] <labeeb32> i got teasers login:
[00:42] <netlar> I do have like 54 wallpapers that I have downlaoded, they all work
[00:42] <eeee> netlar: work where?
[00:42] <DoverMo> netlar: what format O:
[00:42] <netlar> eeee: All over
[00:42] <Ben64> labeeb32: where are you seeing that
[00:42] <netlar> DoverMo: They are all jpg files
[00:43] <eeee> netlar: i think the unity-greeter background has to be .png
[00:43] <DoverMo> .png
[00:43] <netlar> eeee: Actually those are the files that do not work
[00:44] <labeeb32> after doing all
[00:44] <labeeb32> hey it worked"*
[00:44] <labeeb32> thank you.....so much
[00:44] <DoverMo> netlar: it may be because the .png is named correctly
[00:45] <labeeb32> ben64 thanks
[00:45] <DoverMo> incorrectly*
[00:45] <netlar> DoverMo: I do not use .png files, all the wallpapers I have are jpg files
[00:46] <netlar> I do see the option in dconf, that the option is checked for draw-user-background
[00:50] <netlar> And again, all 54 of the .jpg files do work. It is just a mystery that I have downloaded some files that do not work
[00:51] <Zenock> Hi Trying to make my microscope work and found this:
[00:51] <Zenock> http://sourceforge.net/p/linux-uvc/mailman/message/29835445/
[00:51] <Zenock> Trouble is I don't know how to do that...
[00:51] <DoverMo> netlar: exporting a new jpg from a lossless file?
[00:52] <netlar> DoverMo: Exporting uhh no.  I am just downloading the files from wallpaper websites
[00:52] <Zenock> I think I need to download some drivers from somewhere unzip them change the file in question and run make and make install.
[00:52] <DoverMo> netlar: right. so put it in a lossless format and export it as a new jpg and see if that works
[00:52] <Zenock> If I could get a little more detailed guideance it would be much appreciated.
[00:53] <linuxuz3r> anyone good with c++
[00:53] <Zenock> I really am something of a noob.
[00:53] <linuxuz3r> what does *tmp++ = x; do
[00:53] <netlar> DoverMo: For the ones that do not work?
[00:54] <DoverMo> linuxuz3r: c, not c++ : P
[00:54] <DoverMo> netlar: yeah
[00:54] <netlar> DoverMo: I will try that
[00:55] <Beldar> Zenock, Your link has no answers and is doubtful there are drivers from what I can tell. I would look on tehe web with the model and your ubuntu release and linux.
[00:55] <Beldar> the*
[00:56] <netlar> DoverMo: So the reason why some of the wallpapers are not on greeter screen is because they are not in the lossless format?
[00:56] <DoverMo> netlar: no....
[00:56] <Beldar> Zenock,When plugged in does it show if you run lsusb
[00:56] <DoverMo> netlar: jpg isn't lossless!
[00:56] <Zenock> yes
[00:56] <DoverMo> netlar: i just thought i'd be worth a try if something in the meta is messed up
[00:57] <Zenock> If you look at the second message of my link it says to run patch to uvc_driver.c  I found another post that says this works as well.
[00:57] <netlar> DoverMo: Then why do all of the other 54 jpg files working?
[00:57] <Beldar> Zenock, preface with nicks, your lsusb info is pertinent.
[00:57] <DoverMo> netlar: ^^^inb5 "if something in the meta is messed up"
[00:57] <Zenock> Beldar, yes
[00:59] <Beldar> Zenock, That is a wall of text, I also see "
[00:59] <Beldar> This looks like a pretty weird beast. The device might or might not be UVC-compatible" help here on something like this will take someone dedicated to looking trough and more info most likely.
[00:59] <Beldar> Zenock, technically 3rd party stuff is a hit or miss here
[01:00] <Zenock>  Beldar: uvc driver is included since 2.6.26
[01:01] <Zenock> Beldar, I just need to understand how to patch it.
[01:01] <Zenock> It's kind of beyond me.  I've never patched a driver.
[01:03] <Zenock> beldar, her's a better link<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:04] <p014k> How do I install java so that it will work with firefox? Is there a good package? Would java-common do the trick?
[01:05] <greeter> you can use icedtea or you can use oracle java. i find oracle java works better, but it's a matter of preference
[01:05] <greeter> in general you should be careful about using java because it's been known to have severe security flaws in it
[01:05] <Beldar> !java | p014k
[01:06] <jctech2020> I didn't have much luck with iced tea. I always get an error
[01:06] <greeter> oh, hmm, the bot has answers for everything it seems :-)
[01:07] <ponA_> hey guys, i just created a software raid for testing purposes. the "disks" window says that the array is degraded and that 1 disk is missing
[01:07] <p014k> Do I need all of those? Or just openjdk? And I need to install 6 before 7?
[01:07] <Beldar> p014k, read the link
[01:08] <ponA_> does this happen every time you create a raid array or did i do something wrong?
[01:08] <ponA_> it says also that it is currently rebuilding with around 80mb/s
[01:09] <ponA_> the raid consists of 4 formatted disks, do they need any kind of initializing? i dont want to wait 2 hours just to find out it wont work anyway...
[01:11] <mesopotamian> HI
[01:11] <mesopotamian> aNYONE INTERESTED IN A SERIOUS CONVERSATION AND fuck caps
[01:11] <mesopotamian> Acting normal
[01:11] <mesopotamian> Like just saying something normal
[01:12] <mesopotamian> Like acting normal
[01:12] <cfhowlett> mesopotamian, wrong channel.  no profanity.
[01:12] <mesopotamian> how am i supposed to spell your name
[01:12] <mesopotamian> i think it's clownboots
[01:12] <mesopotamian> i don't have glasses on
[01:12] <mesopotamian> can you repeat that
[01:13] <cfhowlett> !topic | mesopotamian
[01:13] <mesopotamian> What is your name
[01:13] <mesopotamian> I can't read that I'm sorry
[01:13] <mesopotamian> I'm not the person you don't want yourself knowing the name of
[01:13] <cfhowlett> mesopotamian, if you can type ,you can read.  ask your ubuntu question or go play elsewhere.
[01:13] <mesopotamian> If that suits your interest
[01:14] <mesopotamian> I'm having too much fun
[01:14] <cfhowlett> !ops | mesopotamian
[01:14] <mesopotamian> Thanks for killin yourself
[01:40] <gyre007_> M
[01:43] <jctech2020> and so text scrolls by...
[01:45] <Gerowen> Anybody know why Brasero refuses to burn cue/bin images, but K3b burns them no problem?
[01:46] <jctech2020> k3b is better thats why :)
[01:47] <Beldar> bazhang, Hey a user banned here now on ##windows
[01:47] <Beldar> heh gone already, never mind
[01:49] <Tots> Hey guys, I'm getting a really weird error with IRC. Half my networks can't connect yet on the SAME network, I can connect from my phone. What's going on?
[01:49] <Beldar> Tots, What IRC client?
[01:49] <Tots> Beldar: Xchat
[01:50] <Tots> I've tried Hexchat as well and it won't connect to a network that I've connected to fine for months on this comptuer
[01:50] <Tots> now, it's gradually starting to drop off other networks than just that one while others can connect there fine
[01:50] <Beldar> Tots, You might try #xchat
[01:51] <Beldar> my guess would be user error
[01:51] <Gerowen> jctech2020: Thinking of giving a full blown KDE environment a shot, is the version in 14.04 any good?  I haven't ran KDE in a very long time.   It's something about the networking side, entirely
[02:17] <Tots> irc.esper.net being the example one I can't access
[02:19] <bilbocrying> Hello. Am on my phone after debian install. cannot access wireless internet. #debian dead and #linux off limits, can anyone help me get wired internet working?
[02:20] <bilbocrying> Would much appreciate any help
[02:21] <ravigehlot> Something weird is happening half way through booting; my graphics card starts at 1024x768 booting through grub then drops to a much lower resolution. I am using the intel i950 graphics card. How can I go about fixing it?
[02:22] <panda81> hi. Can I not directly install Ubuntu to a usb drive
[02:24] <ceibal> Hola
[02:30] <Beldar> panda81, yes use a manual install
[02:31] <Beldar> panda81, Full install right?
[02:32] <Beldar> Tots, Keep trying.
[02:32] <Tots> BEldar, I'm trying wireshark atm, but..I have no idea what the hell I"m doing
[02:34] <Tots> are you supposed to be able to ping esper.net?
[02:35] <panda81> Beldar: Well, I downloaded the iso and extracted it. I ran wubi.exe, and I select my e: extern usb drive to install to. Then the installer proceeds to download the iso again for some reason
[02:36] <panda81> and at the end of the download, I get message "permission denied"
[02:37] <Beldar> panda81, wubi is not supported, nor for a usb install.
[02:37] <Beldar> wubi is for running in windows
[02:38] <panda81> oh is that the run directly in windows to get a feel of Ubuntu thing
[02:38] <Beldar> panda81, yes, however not really supported, when it was only user I know was a regular supporter.
[02:39] <Beldar> only one user*
[02:39] <Beldar> panda81, If you want to try it out a vm is workable, so is a dual boot.
[02:39] <panda81> then what do I do to install Ubuntu to usb drive? There is no other .exe I can click in the iso
[02:40] <Beldar> panda81, generally the usb use is  the live install setup, however a full install is possible if the usb is large enough.
[02:41] <panda81> panda81: I'm installing to usb HDD
[02:41] <Beldar> panda81, two types of install a full or just the iso, wheich do you want?
[02:42] <panda81> I wish to use that HDD to boot another desktop
[02:42] <panda81> guessing full?
[02:42] <Beldar> panda81, What other desktop?
[02:43] <Beldar> panda81, Give a full end goal here your terms are confusing is all.
[02:44] <necro606> good evening.
[02:44] <panda81> My desktop s internal HDD failed. The desktop has no other CD drive. I wish to use my external usb HDD to install Ubuntu and power the aforementioned desktop
[02:44] <Beldar> panda81, The internal failed how and what OS?
[02:45] <indeed> hello
[02:45] <panda81> Beldar: It was an 8 year old Raptor drive, recently salvaged to run Win7
[02:46] <cynicallemon> oh here we go...
[02:46] <panda81> perhaps like cars, not using for a long time, it fails two months after being salvaged
[02:47] <cynicallemon> panda81: how do you know its "failed"?
[02:47] <Beldar> panda81, So is the internal drive just a failed boot or is it actually bricked due to HD failure? Your idea is not really a good one at best is all.
[02:48] <panda81> First it was BSOD. Then after reboot motherboard doesn't recognize the drive in any of the SATA slot
[02:48] <Basketball> anyone here use insync
[02:48] <indeed> who is good with wget?
[02:48] <panda81> and no more noise. Usually it's loud
[02:48] <Beldar> indeed, many state the issue.
[02:48] <cynicallemon> panda81: yes raptors are usually louder than most
[02:49] <Beldar> panda81, To install to the external HD you will need an install media a dvd, or another usb to start with.
[02:49] <indeed> could one download all pages of a forum thread with it?
[02:49] <cynicallemon> panda81: and at 8 years its not going to in prime condition
[02:50] <panda81> Beldar: I have two external USB drives. Could I copy the iso's contents into one as the install media
[02:50] <cynicallemon> panda81: yes
[02:51] <panda81> cynicallemon: I ran some profilers the previous night. Must have stressed it
[02:51] <Beldar> panda81, There are usb loaders, and a dd is possible, the iso alone no.
[02:51] <panda81> Beldar: dd? Which usb loader do you recommend
[02:52] <Beldar> panda81, unetbootin works in linux or MS.
[02:53] <Beldar> panda81, I would just use the usb flash not a external HD, it would be easy to wipe that HD with a mistake.
[02:53] <panda81> Beldar: MS Win you mean? I'm on a Win laptop now so I run unetbootin to transform one usb dirve as a media install drive?
[02:53] <cynicallemon> panda81: or if you have access to another windows machine, windiskimager32 will transfer an iso image to usb
[02:53] <Beldar> panda81, yes.
[02:56] <Beldar> panda81, be careful here, I would measure whether what your doing is really needed. I.E. can you just get another HD for the computer, or is it worth saving if you have another computer to use.
[02:56] <panda81> ok downloading. I also remember pendrivelinux
[02:56] <panda81> but that probably installs its own distro rather than ubuntu?
[02:57] <panda81> Beldar: I have no other spare. And ordering one takes a week
[02:57] <Beldar> panda81, You seem to be lost in general in this, be careful, one wrong move and you could wipe important data is all.
[02:57] <_4ls> Anybody here know how I can download files from fileice without the surveys?
[02:58] <panda81> Thanks for the reminder. The disks have no important data
[02:59] <uRock> _4ls wrong IRC
[02:59] <Beldar> _4ls, Not a support issue, WOT has a huge red flag on it as well.
[02:59] <_4ls> sorry
[02:59] <panda81> In fact, Linux is my only option because I think it can adapt to changed motherboard.  Not very trivial
[03:01] <Beldar> panda81, We wont help you.
[03:01] <Beldar> it is illegal
[03:01] <Beldar> just a whole set of bad ideas, I'm finished
[03:01] <panda81> http://www.intowindows.com/how-to-install-windows-7-to-usb-external-hard-drive-must-read/
[03:06] <panda81> alas unetbootin doesn't recognize external hdd
[03:08] <cynicallemon> panda81: download and try windiskimager32 if on windows
[03:08] <panda81> cynicallemon: I wonder if something is wrong it doesn't recognize a flash drive I plugged in either
[03:09] <panda81> ok pendrivelinux's can do it
[03:10] <panda81> persistant file size for storing change I should leave at 0?
[03:10] <ObrienDave> panda, if you're going to keep it as a system, you need persistence
[03:10] <cynicallemon> if it only going to be used as an install media then yes
[03:11] <panda81> oh can I install directly as a reusable system? Earlier I thought I need to create an install media drive first
[03:12] <bentinata> Does anyone here care to explain (or give me a link) differences of iBus and xim?
[03:12] <afranio> Hi everyone! This is my first connection on IRC.
[03:13] <cynicallemon> panda81: you can use it as a live system
[03:13] <cynicallemon> panda81: theoretically you could plug the usb drive into any pc/laptop and use it
[03:14] <boldfilter1> So ya, can't login for 14.04 after fresh install. Just goes back the login
[03:14] <cynicallemon> boldfilter1: welcome to ubuntu
[03:15] <panda81> cynicallemon: yes that's my only choice, as Windows can't do that
[03:15] <boldfilter1> Thanks
[03:15] <bentinata> Hi afranio.
[03:15] <cynicallemon> boldfilter1: silly question but is it the correct password youre using
[03:16] <boldfilter1> It is...if I put in the wrong one it thinks a bit
[03:16] <afranio> Hello <bentinata>
[03:16] <boldfilter1> I've reinstalled twice
[03:16] <ObrienDave> boldfilter1, there is an easy fix, dang if i remember how to fix it
[03:17] <Beldar> boldfilter1, Have you tried a tty login than to the desktop?
[03:17] <cynicallemon> ObrienDave: install debian?
[03:17] <ObrienDave> naw
[03:17] <boldfilter1> I can login alt+ctrl+f3
[03:18] <boldfilter1> And if I delete the .Xauthority file it just hangs
[03:18] <afranio> Well <bentinata>.. I'm studying Linux on "LFS101x Introduction to Linux" right now and I just test IRC comment on the contents material.
[03:19] <bentinata> Ah, an college student.
[03:20] <Beldar> boldfilter1, check post 3
[03:20] <Beldar> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2233593
[03:20] <Beldar> afranio, bentinata If you all want to chat use #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:21] <bentinata> Thanks for reminding me, Beldar. :)
[03:21] <bentinata> Sorry.
[03:21] <Beldar> no biggie. ;)
[03:23] <afranio> Sorry and thanks this adv <Beldar> :-)
[03:23] <delinquentme> OK so whats a really good way to quickly beat the fooey out of my RAM? Im sitting at best buy trying to sort out if both of the RAM sicks I've got sitting in my machine are funcitonal ...
[03:24] <delinquentme> the last one seemed to crap out after a while ... and im trying to sort out if the ram is bad asap ... I just tried opening a TON of tabs and well its holding up :D
[03:24] <Beldar> delinquentme, No quick way, you should run a mem test.
[03:24] <ObrienDave> delinquentme, mersenne prime test will kick the snot out of RAM
[03:24] <delinquentme> Beldar, so just the thing on the bootup tools for my lenovo laptop?
[03:25] <Beldar> delinquentme, It in the grub menu or on a live.
[03:34] <bentinata> delinquentme, yep that "thing on bootup". It takes a while tho.
[03:35] <incognito> After running the update manager. (google chrome was updated) chrome is running notoriously slow. Are other people reporting this problem?
[03:37] <shadaloo> DUDES - i just got a new samsung monitor and when I try to use it with ubuntu it does not work, when I try to boot with the live USB it works up until the "TRY UBUNTU / INSTALL UBUNTU" screen, in which it looses signal
[03:37] <shadaloo> can someone help?
[03:37] <shadaloo> connecting it via HDMI
[03:39] <Beldar> incognito, None we have seen, personally I run any browser with nothing saved but the bookmarks, it will slow down with a big cache and coolies.
[03:39] <Beldar> cookies*
[03:40] <shadaloo> hey Beldar
[03:40] <shadaloo> can you help me get my display working
[03:41] <shadaloo> ubuntu detects it but the display receives no signal
[03:41] <awsation> shadaloo: does this happen when it's connected via HDMI only ?
[03:41] <shadaloo> awsation: i don't know it's the only cable i have
[03:41] <shadaloo> awsation: however i used the same HDMI cable to play a DVD and it works fine
[03:41] <awsation> does it have a VGA connection that you can try out and see if it happens there as well.
[03:42] <shadaloo> it does but I do not have the cable
[03:42] <shadaloo> I know it works because it shows the kernel loading
[03:42] <shadaloo> and the initial hardware recognition
[03:42] <shadaloo> then it gets to login
[03:42] <shadaloo> nada
[03:42] <shadaloo> i'm currently on a 1024x768 display
[03:43] <shadaloo> is it possible to change the X to 1920x1080
[03:43] <bentinata> Maybe too high frequency?
[03:43] <shadaloo> what is high frequency :s
[03:43] <shadaloo> ubuntu recognizes the display
[03:44] <shadaloo> in displays when I have both plugged in
[03:44] <shadaloo> but it does not get a signal to the display
[03:44] <incognito> Beldar Yeah, even though I am a web developer, I don't have one extension installed. I'll have to look at the cache and cookie settings.
[03:44] <awsation> same as in here? http://askubuntu.com/questions/234153/external-monitor-recognized-but-getting-no-signal
[03:44] <bentinata> Well, higher resolution need higher frequencies. E.g: my screen 1366×768 have 75Hz frequencies.
[03:44] <shadaloo> let me read
[03:46] <saruji_> Hello room! Quick question on window snapping, I googled to no avail.  Snapping windows to the bottom (like windows win-key+arrow or dragging) works but side to side does not, how can i remedy this?
[03:48] <incognito> shadaloo are you currently using the computer that you want to run the samsung monitor on with?
[03:48] <shadaloo> yes
[03:48] <saruji_> Hello room! Quick question on window snapping, I googled to no avail.  Snapping windows to the bottom (like windows win-key+arrow or dragging) works but side to side does not, how can i remedy this?
[03:48] <shadaloo> ubuntu recognizes 2 displays
[03:48] <incognito> Is it running ubuntu?
[03:48] <shadaloo> my 1024x768
[03:48] <shadaloo> yes
[03:49] <shadaloo> i'm running 14.04
[03:49] <incognito> is the hdmi connected right now?
[03:49] <shadaloo> yes sir
[03:50] <incognito> shadaloo run this command: cvt 1920 1080 60
[03:51] <shadaloo> # 1920x1080 59.96 Hz (CVT 2.07M9) hsync: 67.16 kHz; pclk: 173.00 MHz
[03:51] <shadaloo> Modeline "1920x1080_60.00"  173.00  1920 2048 2248 2576  1080 1083 1088 1120 -hsync +vsync
[03:53] <jctech2020> how do I install ia32-libs in 14.04?
[03:55] <shadaloo> incognito: any ideas?
[03:55] <incognito> shadaloo now you see the Modline copy everything from and including that quotation mark. then in the terminal type:     xrand --newmode            with one space after newmode paste the line that you copied
[03:55] <uRock> does gnome keyring only pop up by default when the user has set the account to log in automatically?
[03:55] <shadaloo> ok thx
[03:55] <shadaloo> will try
[03:56] <awsation> jctech2020: giyf! http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23182765/how-to-install-ia32-libs-in-ubuntu-14-04-lts
[03:56] <OerHeks> jctech2020, no need for ia32--libs anymore, ubuntu is multiarch, just add <package>:i386
[03:56] <incognito> shadaloo I can't guarantee this will work, but you might have to put in one more command. Let me know if it works. It should work right away.
[03:56] <shadaloo> incognito: so I would run this?
[03:57] <shadaloo> xrand --newmode "1920x1080_60.00"
[03:57] <shadaloo> ?
[03:57] <incognito> Shadaloo no
[03:58] <incognito> shadaloo run this: xrand --newmode "1920x1080_60.00"  173.00  1920 2048 2248 2576  1080 1083 1088 1120 -hsync +vsync
[03:58] <jctech2020> I tried the stack overflow process it no longer works
[03:58] <jctech2020> OerHeks, I am trying to install proprietary printer drivers that needs ia32-libs as dependencies
[03:58] <shadaloo> incognito:
[03:59] <jctech2020> without it it isn't working
[03:59] <shadaloo> No command 'xrand' found, did you mean: Command 'rand' from package 'rand' (universe) Command 'xrandr' from package 'x11-xserver-utils' (main)
[03:59] <kostkon> jctech2020, it's not gonna then
[03:59] <incognito> shadaloo now run this: xrandr --addmode VGA1 "1920x1080_60.00"
[03:59] <jctech2020> ?? there are no alternatives?
[03:59] <kostkon> jctech2020, what kind of drivers
[03:59] <shadaloo> incognito: I do not have xrandr and apt-get says it has been obsoleted
[03:59] <awsation> jctech2020: the answer has been edited to reflect the now non-existent precise-archive.. have you tried that?
[04:00] <jctech2020> brother fax4100e drivers . I downloaded the binary from the website
[04:00] <shadaloo> incognito: However the following packages replace it: x11-xserver-utils:i386 x11-xserver-utils
[04:00] <shadaloo> :s
[04:01] <incognito> shadaloo yeah okay. it's because you have 14.04
[04:02] <shadaloo> im really surprised the live USB 14.04 wouldn't work either
[04:02] <incognito> shadaloo I havn't addressed this problem in 14.04, but I can give you some tips on how to research it
[04:03] <kostkon> jctech2020, tried the suggestions here? http://askubuntu.com/questions/361599/how-to-install-32-bit-brother-drivers-on-64-bit-ubuntu-13-10-or-later
[04:03] <shadaloo> incognito: sure
[04:03] <JCM83> Does Ubuntu register me as "inactive" for purpose of auto-suspend, if I have Terminal up downloading a package?
[04:03] <JCM83> it's a big package.
[04:03] <incognito> shadal00 You should try the live 12.04 are you running 64 bit or 32 bit?
[04:03] <JCM83> I want to go to sleep.
[04:04] <Beldar> JCM83, The OS is off in a suspend
[04:04] <shadaloo> incognito: hrmmm
[04:05] <shadaloo> i could try 13.xx
[04:05] <shadaloo> i have it on a disk
[04:05] <shadaloo> i guess i will just give it a go
[04:05] <shadaloo> incognito: thx for your help mate
[04:05] <shadaloo> cheers
[04:07] <incognito> shadaloo search google with something like ubuntu 14.04 screen resolution problems samsung (put the model of your monitor here) monitor
[04:08] <incognito> shadaloo also put hdmi in the mix
[04:08] <JCM83> Beldar, yes. Right now the OS is on, and it's downloading a giant package (3.5gb). If I turn off the monitor and walk away, will it finish the download and then wait 30 minutes and suspend, or will it wait 30 minutes from when I walk away?
[04:08] <JCM83> So, will the ongoing install process be considered "active" for the purposes of the auto suspend.
[04:08] <incognito> That's how I found the solution when ubuntu could't see my acer monitor
[04:08] <jctech2020> thanks kostkon it doesn't work. I'll just downgrade to 12.04
[04:09] <Beldar> JCM83, Monitor off is not a suspend. If you suspend you have no download.
[04:09] <Noiro> errr guys, after recent updates, my DNS is acting really funky. Connection to IRC servers is wonky and seems unstable. What's going on? I'm using Google's DNS in the Unity pane
[04:09] <JCM83> Beldar, nevermind, you aren't understanding the question.
[04:10] <Beldar> JCM83, Your question is will a terminal download stall a suspend.
[04:10] <Anolado> greeter
[04:10] <Anolado> need to chat in pm
[04:10] <Anolado> urgently
[04:10] <JCM83> An auto-suspend, specifically.
[04:11] <somsip> !pm | Anolado
[04:11] <JCM83> The answer is here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/170307/how-does-ubuntu-determine-inactivity-before-suspending
[04:11] <kostkon> jctech2020, still asking for ia32-libs?
[04:11] <awsation> jctech2020:  I wouldn't be surprised if Brother did not have an Ubu14.04 driver ready..do they mention that on their support page ?
[04:11] <greeter> sorry Anolado i don't accept private messages on freenode
[04:12] <Anolado> ah
 just out of curiousity, what's the point of using a public dns ? Doesn't any isp provide you with a working one ?
[04:12] <Anolado> anybody here into felching?
[04:12] <Anolado> it is a great new ubuntu utility
[04:12] <Anolado> for checking the integrity of your packages
[04:12] <somsip> Anolado: stop now
[04:12] <kostkon> jctech2020, you can always force dpkg to ignore the dependencies.
[04:13]  * Anolado sprays his spicy diarrhea with shrimp tails and corn chunks into somsip's face
[04:13] <somsip> !ops | Anolado (trolling...badly)
 what's your issue again ? I never had problems with brother drivers under linux
[04:14] <jctech2020> that's the problem, the driver is not a .deb file. it is a bash script
[04:15] <incognito> Is there a way to see what the last version of google-chrome browser was on my system? I know it was whatever ubuntu 12.04 updated in the Update Manager. Is there a history of the update manager. Does Ubuntu keep a list of Update Manager versions online?\
[04:15] <jctech2020> http://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadend.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=fax4100_us&os=128&dlid=dlf006893_000&flang=4&type3=625
 no need. I you pick the whatsoever definition file, you can install brother printers manually with cups
[04:15] <qwerkus> I actually never used the script
[04:16] <incognito> jctech2020 brother makes deb file drivers... that's got to be the best option
[04:16] <jctech2020> I tried the lpr.deb file is broken
[04:17] <awsation> jctech2020: hmm..was released before ubuntu's 14.04 release date..
[04:17] <incognito> jctech2020  is that the driver which brother developed?
[04:17] <OerHeks> jctech2020, the site gives install instructions >  dpkg -i --force-all  (lpr-drivername)
[04:18] <incognito> jctech2020   did you download it from the official brother website?
[04:18] <kostkon> jctech2020, you could edit the script and remove the lines about ia32-libs and convert the rest to package_name:i386
[04:19] <jctech2020> I keep getting the errors were encountered while processing fax4100lpr
[04:19] <jctech2020> i tried the apt-get install -f
[04:19] <jctech2020> get the same error
[04:19] <incognito> anyone know if ubuntu keeps an update history for update manager? I want to find out what the previous version for chrome is on 12.04
[04:20] <thurstylark2> Has anyone been able to host an OS X guest under a ubuntu server host running on apple hardware?
[04:20] <Finrod> How many megabytes will PlayOnLinux use when fully installed?
[04:20] <OerHeks> thurstylark2, UELA does not allow that, i think little chance you find someone here.
[04:21] <somsip> incognito: /var/log/apt-get/history.log (might record what goes on in software centre - not sure)
[04:21] <thurstylark2> OerHeks: I assumed as much. Thanks for the info.
[04:22] <jctech2020> :( oh well
[04:24] <Finrod> HOw many megabytes of RAM space does both Wine and PlayOnLinux require altogether?
[04:24] <ObrienDave> Finrod, as much as it takes to run
[04:25] <Finrod> I am limited to my RAM because I am using a live CD to install them
[04:25] <Finrod> and run them
[04:25] <Finrod> I have 3.25 GB of RAM, is that enough?
[04:26] <uRock> incognito, you may want to give google-chrome-beta a try. I've been using it with no issues for a while now.
[04:26] <incognito> uRock I may try that
 you may want to prepare a custom livecd with wine/playonlinux already preconfigured
[04:28] <Finrod> Wow, that sounds like a good idea, qwerkus, but how do I do it?
[04:29] <qwerkus> Finrod: actually never did it under ubuntu. Slackware livecds ruled back in the days for security checks. But this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization sounds actually very easy
[04:30] <uRock> Finrod, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[04:30] <uRock> qwerkus, beat me to it
[04:30] <qwerkus> uRock> :)
[04:33] <incognito> somsip the apt/history.log is showing it. Apparently the first parameter is the previous version. chromium-browser-l10n:i386 (36.0.1985.125-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>~pkg897, 37.0.2062.94-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>~pkg909)
[04:34] <incognito> somsip but the chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra were also updated. I wonder if those ffmpeg extras will work just fine in the previous version of chrome 36.0
[04:35] <azad_> what is the best online course to learn ubuntu server management ?
[04:35] <somsip> incognito: no idea about that
[04:36] <incognito> BTW why is chrome only able to play about 10 percent  of the videos I try to play on youtube or other sources? It often says I don't have the latest flashplayer version, but ununtu is the one who keep flashplayer updated.
[04:36] <Loshki> incognito: I prefer the installation log at /var/log/dpkg.log.
[04:37] <incognito> Loshki I will take a look at that
[04:38] <panda81> Hmm is the installer stuck? Been 20 minutes since "Creating the Persistent File: The progress bar will not move until finished." displayed by the Pendrivelinux installer
[04:38] <Loshki> incognito: most of the browser problems went away when I install pepperflash http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/06/install-pepper-flash-chromium-ubuntu-14-04
[04:43] <panda81> I maximized the persistent file size when asked, hopefully that doesn't lead to long delays
[04:44] <incognito> Loshki I'm running 12.04, but I found a tut for installing pepper flash for 12.04 on ubuntu geek
[04:45] <jctech2020> ok so I downgraded to 12.04 and the printer script installer worked like a charm
[04:46] <incognito> Loski there is no dpkg.log in /var/log either that is 12.04 specific or it's cause I don't think I ran dpkg since I recently installed on this box
[04:50] <Finrod> thanks Querkus
[04:50] <Finrod> qwerkus
[04:50] <Finrod> sorry
[04:53] <zeus_> msg NickServ REGISTER psychedelic<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:54] <Beldar> mmm yahoo
[04:54] <Beldar> spam central
[04:57] <killer> Hey , can I use a windows graphics  driver on a linux system
[04:58] <OerHeks> killer no.
[04:58] <killer> My puolsbo driver doesn't have a 3d acceleration support on linux and is crappy
[05:02] <OerHeks> killer, docs say indeed 3D is horrible https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsPoulsbo#Psb_gfx_drivers_.28promising_for_Precise_12.04.29
[05:05] <gde33|2> I'm trying to install from a dvd I just burned, I briefly see a window with boxes and system information, then (where I assume the logo should be) I get a small 3 box window with 2 boxes at the top ---data--- and ---prog--- and a bot at the bottom with err 3
[05:06] <gde33|2> actually first it says err 8 then, when I press a key it changes into err 3
[05:06] <gde33|2> the data box has entries like b: c: d: e: f: 10: 11: 12:
[05:07] <gde33|2> the computer is rather old, is this the funeral window?
[05:08] <gde33|2> the background of the small 3 box window is ubuntu purple
[05:11] <Finrod> qwerkus: Customizing an ubuntu live CD certainly does not look easy, according to the link you sent me, especially for someone like me, who grew up using Windows.  It looks like only a programmer could possibly create his own live CD like that
[05:12] <Finrod> It looks like it would be much easier to just run a live CD and install Wine alone, to see if I can get Netflix working off a live CD.  Do you think that would work?
 sorry to read that
[05:13] <Finrod> I got 3.25 GB of RAM in my Pavilion PC, so is that enough to get it to work?
[05:13] <gde33|2> before the purple 3 box screen it says: searching for boot record from cd/dvd-..ok
[05:14] <kostkon> Finrod, you can install chrome and use that to watch netflix
 only a test will show you for sure. Alternatively, you might want to have a look into a minimalistic linux approach, to maximized ram and perfromance
[05:14] <thurstylark2> I have a file or directory in my root dir that shows up very strange. When I do ls / it shows up as "?l@@???@8" How do I find out what the '?' characters are?
[05:19] <Finrod> I"m using a xubuntu 14.04 live CD....I think that's pretty minimalist.  Does lubuntu use even less memory than xubuntu?
[05:21] <Finrod> qwerky, how much memory does the pipelight repository use up in RAM for installing Wine with my live CD?
[05:21] <qwerkus> Finrod: I dropped xubuntu because of mem usage. Lubuntu works better on my machine. Yet, if you set up your system carefully, you can get equal performances
[05:21] <qwerkus> Maybe you can try this one: http://www.linuxliveusb.com/ seems windows friendly
[05:22] <qwerkus> as for your questions about memory footprints: just test it. The top command gives pretty good usage stats; otherwise ps
[05:23] <qwerkus> http://superuser.com/questions/117913/ps-aux-output-meaning
[05:25] <RoBo_V> Morning Guys !
[05:26] <qwerkus> Finrod: also, iirc, mint (which is ubuntu based) has a livecd with wine preinstalled
[05:27] <Finrod> wow
[05:27] <gde33|2> I've made a drawing of what I see on the screen http://img.go-here.nl/ubuntu32-installation-failure.png
[05:28] <Finrod> I want to try MInt then.  That last link probably takes me there.  I"ll check it out, qwerkus
[05:28] <Beldar> gde33|2, Have you run a sum check?
[05:28] <gde33|2> Beldar: I'm a total noob
[05:28] <Beldar> !md5sum | gde33|2
[05:29] <Finrod> Never heard of iirc, what is that?
[05:29] <gde33|2> Beldar: k
[05:29] <Beldar> gde33|2, be sure the iso and disk are good and burn as an image, never seen what you show.
[05:30] <Beldar> gde33|2, I would boot it to the live desktop before install.
[05:33] <Finrod> What is the relationship between IIRC and Mint (Ubuntu)?  I don't even know what IIRC is.  Is it an operating system?
[05:33] <gde33|2> Beldar: infraRecorder had the check grayed out
[05:33] <Tom_84> Hello. I had unused partition on sda1, Debian on sda2, swap on sda3 and data on sda5. I choose "replace Debian" Xubuntu -installer and it erased whole disk. How can I recover data?
[05:33] <gde33|2> Beldar: I dont see any files on the disk I burned
[05:34] <Beldar> Tom_84, testdisk is probably your best chance
[05:34] <fragar> Can I convert my Ubuntu to Mint without losing my settings or files?
[05:34] <Beldar> gde33|2, I have never used infraRecorder key is a burn as an image is all.
[05:35] <qpo0g> Finrod: IIRC is the acronym for "if I remember correctly"; it's not a piece of software. (At least, in this context.)
[05:35] <Beldar> fragar, Not really, home alone might be okay, I would ask mint.
[05:35] <Beldar> !mint
[05:35] <Finrod> thanks qpo8g
[05:36] <Beldar> fragar, Kinda going backwards though and less support.
[05:37] <Tom_84> Beldar, I am not sure what happening during ext4 formating process. I used "photorec" on whole unused space and it recovered nearly nothing.
[05:37] <Beldar> Tom_84, This is why we have backups.
[05:38] <Tom_84> Beldar, now I know.
[05:38] <Finrod> Where can I find the Linux Mint live CD with Wine pre-installed?
[05:39] <Loshki> Tom_84: I have a nasty feeling it didn't just wipe your partition data, but formatted the disk too, in which case your data is gone, sorry...
[05:40] <Tom_84> if I will make image with say "dd if=/dev/sda of=disk.img" on another bigger disk - can I use any other software on this image?
[05:41] <Tom_84> Loshki: OK
[05:41] <ObrienDave> backup? we don't need no stinking backup ;P
[05:43] <akis> i am asking again a problem i faced yesterday in case that someone expert can help me. Yesterday i tried to move from one user account to another , a directory containing other directories and i gave the command sudo mv /home/user/* /home/user_other/ . The system didnt return any error message, worked for a couple of minutes (because the whole directory's size was about 5 gb). After the system returned to command prompt i checked if the files we
[05:43] <akis> re moved to destination user account and i realized that although  the files were not any more in /home/user (source account) there were not also in /home/user_other (destination account). In your opinion  what happened and the files disappeared? Are they still lived somewhere on my disk or they just deleted? Or maybe where just renamed? Is it possible to be transfered somewhere else (i.e. inside root file system)? I have to mention that as i ha
[05:44] <akis> d a copy of these files i returned for a second try and i gave this time cp -r /home/user/directory /home/user_other/ and the whole directory with all subdirectories copied succesfully. But still i am wondering if i made any damage to my system or i sent those files with my first command somewhere else. Any idea? I read that mv command can also rename files https://www.mkssoftware.com/docs/man1/mv.1.asp. Is it possible that my files are renamed
[05:44] <akis> and still live in /home (source directory) with new names?
[05:44] <Tom_84> ObrienDave: I use GNU/Linux for about 10 years - starting from Mandrake, then Red Hat, later Debian for few years. I installed many different distributions - it never happened that installer erase all data without prompting
[05:45] <Tom_84> of course its my fault
[05:46] <msx>  /close
[05:47] <Tom_84> akis: maybe you tried to move opened files? idk
[05:49] <akis> Tom_84: no there were not opened.
[05:49] <Finrod> I'm searching in http://community.linuxmint.com/iso for the ISO image of Linux Mint, the version that contains Wine, but I can't find it anywhere.  Does anyone know the name of the version of Linux Mint that contains Wine?
[05:51] <tortib> I'm trying to figure out how I can have postmaster send mail from<EMAIL_ADDRESS>instead of<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[05:51] <tortib> using postfix
[05:51] <tortib> anyone have any idea?
[05:54] <Ben64> Finrod: mint is not supported here
[05:54] <Finrod> I didn't realize finding a live CD was so much work.  May be I should give up on Linux Mint.  Are there any other versions of Linux besides Mint that have Wine pre-installed?
[05:55] <Ben64> Finrod: you could just install wine
[05:56] <Finrod> They said I need to customize the CD with wine, probably because Wine would use up too much RAM
[05:57] <Finrod> Wine needs to run off a live CD, because last time I installed Wine onto my regular ubuntu OS, it messed up the whole OS, and I had to format the drive and re-install ubuntu
[05:58] <Ben64> that isn't possible, wine can't mess up the whole OS
[05:59] <Finrod> Yeah, it did.  It caused so many problems.  I was running Kubuntu 12.04 when I installed Wine, and it messed up the entire OS.  I had half a dozen problems.  The troubleshooting got so bad, that I just gave up and reinstalled the whole OS
[06:01] <Finrod> That's why I want to try it with a live CD instead. That way, if it messes up my OS again, I can just reboot, since it would only affect my RAM
[06:02] <Ben64> but seriously, installing wine can't do what you're describing
[06:04] <Finrod> Wine was working, but the problems it caused were not worth the trouble
[06:04] <Ben64> Finrod: it can't affect the rest of the system, what problems are you attributing to wine?
[06:05] <Finrod> I probably could have just uninstalled Wine.  But I was already going to install a new OS, so I just formatted the hard drive.  I had everything backed up already, so it was fairly easy.
[06:07] <Finrod> But now I want to try Wine again on a different PC, one that is running Windows
[06:07] <Ben64> Finrod: for like the 4th time, wine doesn't cause an operating system problems
[06:08] <Finrod> Ben64, have you used Wine without any problems?  Which OS were you running it on?
[06:09] <Ben64> Finrod: i use wine almost 24/7 with no problems, ubuntu
[06:09] <panda81> The try ubuntu without installing feature, does that mean I can't save changes or install new software
[06:10] <Finrod> The people in this channel warned me not to use Wine.  I should have listened.  But at least I know what to expect the next time I try it.
[06:10] <Ben64> panda81: all changes to the system while on that will be lost
[06:10] <Ben64> Finrod: what? wine works fine. i have no idea what you're on about
[06:10] <Finrod> Which version of ubuntu are you running Wine on?  and which version of Wine are you using, Ben?
[06:11] <panda81> Ben64: what if ran on a flash drive or hdd drive?
[06:13] <Ben64> Finrod: none of that matters, wine has worked great for many years, and i suspect it will continue. i never see anyone in this channel have problems with it
[06:13] <Finrod> Of all the problems I had with Wine, the most annoying was that every time I accidentally clicked on a DOS executable file, it would automatically install the file onto the ubuntu system.  It kept doing that over and over.  That's why I had to keep trouble shooting every day, to get rid of all those windows programs, which never should have run on an Ubuntu OS
[06:14] <Ben64> Finrod: sounds like user error
[06:15] <Finrod> Also, one of the Windows programs I installed using Wine, FICS chess, never worked properly on Kubuntu 12.04
[06:16] <Finrod> It was called BabasChess, which ran on the FICS server
[06:20] <rwp> What would be a minimum sources.list for Raring to keep it on life support? Is there an archive for older releases?
[06:21] <Beldar> rwp, why an eol, you would be better with precise.
[06:22] <cfhowlett> !precise | rwp
[06:26] <simon> quit
[06:28] <rwp> I agree that an LTS would be better.  Not my machine.  I am not going to upgrade it.  If the owner wants to upgrade it that is great.  Which is why I was asking about life support.
[06:28] <Ben64> rwp: no such thing, end of life = end of life
[06:28] <rwp> Well that is too bad then.
[06:29] <rwp> Note that this isn't my machine.  I don't care further than just trying to help out.
[06:30] <rwp> Also I was hoping for something like Debian has with archive.debian.org for older out of support releases.
[06:30] <rwp> But if Ubuntu doesn't have anything similar that is okay.
[06:36] <cfhowlett> rwp, if your friend intends to be online, the best way to help is to guide him to a supported release.  End-of-life = no security updates.  no security updates + internet = compromised machine = tears and gnashing of teeth.
[06:37] <aruzicka> hello
[06:38] <cfhowlett> aruzicka, ask your ubuntu question
[06:39] <geirha> rwp: it does
[06:39] <aruzicka> oh, this is a problem only channel?
[06:39] <geirha> !eol | rwp
[06:40] <cfhowlett> !topic | aruzicka you can answer or ask ubuntu questions
[06:40] <cfhowlett> !ot | aruzicka
[06:40] <aruzicka> k, thanks
[06:40] <Infant> hello. how to change this anoying nonsence when new thunar tabs opens previous tab location but not the home folder ~/ ?
[06:44] <rwp> geirha, You said "it does". Great! I read your reference, thanks, but I must be missing where an archive might exist.
[06:44] <rwp> cfhowlett, Online is relative. It is basically a toaster living in a closet on a private network.
[06:45] <feerism> hello
[06:45] <cfhowlett> rwp, OK, well, if it passes his risk analysis, go for it!
[06:45] <geirha> rwp: When upgrading an EOL release to the next release, you first have to make sure all the packages are updated to the latest versions for that release. To do that you switch to the old-releases repo. See the eol upgrade instructions
[06:45] <cfhowlett> feerism, ask your ubuntu question
[06:46] <Zenock> Hi... I was having trouble getting my USB microscope to work.  I finally got it working and documented the steps I took here.  My post is the last one in the thread.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2228130  I would like to know what I did wrong.
[06:47] <rwp> geirha, Ah! I see the old-releases section now. Thank you!
[06:47] <Zenock> I have a suspicion that I compiled and installed way more drivers than I needed to.
[06:47] <rwp> And agreed. Upgrades need to happen from known release to known release so for upgrading would need to get to the latest of the last point release before upgrading.
[06:47] <Zenock> But I don't know how to isolate just the uvcvideo driver.
[06:48] <feerism> what is the best sandbox for apk analysis?
[06:49] <cfhowlett> feerism, ask www.xdadevelopers.com             they do that stuff all the time
[06:49] <feerism> cool
[06:50] <bitemyapp> if I'm using xmonad (not Gnome/Unity), how do I set my keyboard language to something other than en_US?
[06:52] <rwp> cfhowlett, Mhy own opinion is that he should have based his project on an LTS from the start. Instead he chose Raring for unknown reasons. He is in New Zealand. I am in the US. The hardware is here. I was asked by the boss to get it on the net a day ago. I don't even know what his project is. And I am not an Ubuntu person so mostly banging around getting it going.
[06:53] <cassio3> rwp, what distros do you know?
[06:53] <cassio3> or do you not know linux at all?
[06:53] <cfhowlett> Understoodl.     But unlikely it would come back to me.
[06:55] <bitemyapp> rwp: can I do it non-interactively?
[06:55] <bitemyapp> rwp: I'd like to have it on a keyboard shortcut.
[06:55] <rwp> cassio3, I am a Debian type person.
[06:55] <bitemyapp> rwp: I don't want to have to go through that prompt everytime I flip between Japanese and English, which can happen multiple times a minute or even per sentence.
[06:55] <rwp> bitemyapp, Are you wanting to switch back and forth between two different language keyboards?
[06:55] <cassio3> I know this is off-topic, but where's the best place to go for drupal support?
[06:55] <bitemyapp> rwp: yes please.
[06:55] <cassio3> I was using drush
[06:55] <cassio3> and I sort of broke something
[06:55] <bitemyapp> cassio3: wherever the devs hang out probably.
[06:56] <cfhowlett> !info drupal
[06:56] <cassio3> I once installed drupal by hanging out here
[06:56] <cassio3> :-)
[06:57] <rwp> bitemyapp, Hmm...  Switching keyboard languages on the fly. I can see why that would be useful. But not having needed that myself I don't know how to do it.
[06:58] <bitemyapp> Nuts.
[06:59] <bitemyapp> rwp: thanks anyway!
[06:59] <rwp> bitemyapp, Basically the keyboard-configuration package sets up /etc/default/keyboard and X reads it at start.
[06:59] <rwp> That sets it up once for the window system. But I am sure it is possible to change it dynamically. I just don't know how.
[07:00] <OerHeks> !info drupal7
[07:00] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Drupal
[07:00] <OerHeks> guide says 6, silly old guide
[07:01] <rwp> bitemyapp, Read the docs on setxkbmap and see if it will do what you want.
[07:02] <rwp> bitemyapp, Probably something along the lines of "setxkbmap -model pc104 -layout us -option compose:menu" for US and something different for your Japanese keyboard.
[07:03] <Ronnie> Since today my wireless isn't working anymore. Yesterdag it worked perfectly. I tried booting an old kernel, (3.13.0-24 instead of 3.13.0-35) but that did not work. I'm using Trusty. "lshw -C network" gives me one "network UNCLAIMED" with product: RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe ; vendor: Ralink corp.
[07:07] <rwp> bitemyapp, Hint: Running setxkbmap flushes my xmodmap settings. So for me I need to run setxkbmap followed by xmodmap to keep both working.
[07:10] <netlar> I have a silly question.  When I am on the desktop and not in an app and when I start typing as box shows up in bottom of screen and shows the words I type.  Is that part of the OS?
[07:11] <cassio3> netlar, that sounds like unity search?
[07:12] <netlar> Here is a screen shot, what I am talking about is in the lower right of the screen http://imgur.com/tbdgCzs
[07:13] <selig5> netlar: that highlights filenames and folders on the desktop
[07:13] <selig5> then you can just hit enter to open the file or folder
[07:14] <netlar> selig5: All it appears to do is record what I am typing
[07:14] <netlar> Ok, sorry yes I get it
[07:15] <netlar> But that is part of the OS right?
[07:15] <selig5> netlar: when it matches a filename on the desktop that will be highlighted.
[07:15] <netlar> selig5: That is a nice feature, if you lots of docs on the desktop
[07:16] <selig5> netlar: I agree
[07:17] <netlar> selig5: Is there a good book I can get.  Seems like I may be missing lots of hidden gems concerning the OS
[07:17] <cfhowlett> !manual | netlar,
[07:18] <cfhowlett> netlar, there's also the "official ubuntu book" if you want to buy the latest issue or try www.fullcirclemagazine.org
[07:18] <rwp> geirha, That was just what I was looking for. Allowed me to install a couple of needed things and get out. Thank you!
[07:18] <netlar> cfhowlett: Thanks, I will check that out
[07:26] <dyu> what has higher precedence? hosts.allow or iptables? (i'm guessing iptables)
[07:27] <rwp> dyu, iptables is in the kernel and happens before tcpwrapper's hosts.allow.
[07:27] <dyu> rwp: alright. thanks!
[07:27] <smoalne> hello
[07:27] <TongKhanh> hi smaboshe_
[07:28] <cfhowlett> smoalne, ask your ubuntu questions
[07:30] <yellabs-r2> can i wipe the uefi partition on an hp labtop to install ubuntu ? or should it stay ?
[07:30] <cfhowlett> yellabs-r2, do not wipe EFI!
[07:30] <cfhowlett> !uefi | yellabs-r2
[07:32] <yellabs-r2> on booting an ubuntu 14.04 it drops back to shell, could it have wiped the efi  by accident ?
[07:32] <cfhowlett> yellabs-r2, not by accident - but user authorization only, i.e. YOU.
[07:33] <yellabs-r2> hmm, on installing i choose , "use whole disk" , did that remove efi ?
[07:34] <cfhowlett> yellabs-r2, probably not
[07:34] <WeiJunLi> how to fix this -> http://bpaste.net/show/03b831503915 ?
[07:34] <yellabs-r2> okey, i will check with live usb later..
[07:34] <yellabs-r2> thanks for the info..
[07:34] <yellabs-r2> and helping me think.. :)
[07:35] <ma_di> #join debian
[07:36] <cfhowlett> yellabs-r2, happy2help
[07:36] <cfhowlett> !details | WeiJunLi
[07:36] <cfhowlett> !cn | WeiJunLi
[07:47] <WeiJunLi> ubuntulog: I am not chinese.
[07:47] <WeiJunLi> ubottu: How can I elobarte, I just tried to run the .exe file with wine32 and gave me that error
[07:48] <OerHeks> WeiJunLi, you should give more info, what exe, what version ubuntu, and did you check #winehq for help and its database?
[07:48] <akis> does anyone know where in /root lives printer's driver?
[07:49] <akis> does anyone know where in /root lives printer's driver?
[07:49] <akis> sorry by mistake i duplicated my msg
[07:51] <OerHeks> akis, in /etc/cups/ppd/
[07:52] <yellabs-r2> hee OerHeks, groeten uit nederland ! :)
[07:52] <yellabs-r2> :P
[07:53] <OerHeks> groeten terug .. ow wacht, ik ben ook in NL
[07:54] <OerHeks> long time no see, yellabs-r2
[07:54] <yellabs-r2> uefi brengt mij op mijn knieen
[07:55] <akis> OerHeks, thank you for your answer. i installed a samsung printer series 2160 using recommended by the system driver but it didnt work and i delete it and then i installed the driver from samsung's official site and i reinstall the printer and works perfectly. do you know if the previous driver installation remains in my /root or it is gone with printer's deletion?
[07:56] <OerHeks> akis, if you find only one driver in /etc/cups/ppd/ then the first one is removed. i have no issues with the standard package for samsung.
[07:59] <akis> OerHeks, actually the standard packaged recommends another's type driver (as far as i remember 2155 or something like that) the official worked perfectly. everything is ok now, but i am still worry if something no unusable remain in /root
[08:02] <gol1> exit
[08:03] <djdr1988> are there any good free defrag programs for ubuntu?
[08:04] <DJones> djdr1988: Generally, defrag isn't needed on Linux systems
[08:04] <DJones> !defrag | djdr1988
[08:05] <djdr1988> ok. I wont worry about it then. thank you
[08:05] <akis> OerHeks, under /etc/cups/ppd exists only my new one printer's configuration.
[08:06] <OerHeks> akis then you are fine :-)
[08:07] <akis> OerHeks, brilliant! thank you for your advise. can i ask you something else?
[08:08] <OerHeks> akis, sure, maybe we can help
[08:08] <akis> ok. Yesterday i tried to move from one user account to another , a directory containing other directories and i gave the command sudo mv /home/user/* /home/user_other/ . The system didnt return any error message, worked for a couple of minutes (because the whole directory's size was about 5 gb). After the system returned to command prompt i checked if the files we
 re moved to destination user account and i realized that although  the files were not any more in /home/user (source account) there were not also in /home/user_other (destination account). In your opinion  what happened and the files disappeared? Are they still lived somewhere on my disk or they just deleted? Or maybe where just renamed? Is it possible to be transfered somewhere else (i.e. inside root file system)? I have to mention that
[08:08] <akis> as i ha
 d a copy of these files i returned for a second try and i gave this time cp -r /home/user/directory /home/user_other/ and the whole directory with all subdirectories copied succesfully. But still i am wondering if i made any damage to my system or i sent those files with my first command somewhere else. Any idea? I read that mv command can also rename files https://www.mkssoftware.com/docs/man1/mv.1.asp. Is it possible that my files are r
[08:09] <akis> enamed
[08:12] <trijntje> akis: use baobab to scan your full filesystem, if the files went somewhere you will find them
[08:13] <OerHeks> i think you copied them with user credentials, does "sudo ls -l " show them? ( in the new folder)
[08:14] <Hobbyboy> I'm having trouble with X11vnc and XRDP, when I remote in to the computer, the desktop environment doesn't start up
[08:15] <akis> trijntje, thank you for your advise. i used FM find tool and i didnt find something searching with size margins (as one file was 1,4 gb) but still i am wondering what happened. how baobab works? as a finder tool?
[08:16] <rik__> ciaooo
[08:16] <geirha> akis: du -sxh /home    does it indicate that /home holds at least 5G ?
[08:17] <akis> geirha: how much is expected to hold?
[08:18] <geirha> akis: on a fresh system, it probably only holds a meg or so
[08:19] <geirha> akis: Just trying to figure out if the files are still under /home.   du -sxh /home/*   should also be useful
[08:20] <akis> geirha, i already copied my personal files (documents, pictures etc) so it is difficult to calculate
[08:20] <geirha> ok ... weren't those missing? I must've misunderstood then, nevermind.
[08:21] <Baako> hi. how do i burn ubuntu 14.04 unto a cd?
[08:21] <Baako> dvd
[08:21] <geirha> Baako: follow the instructions from the download page
[08:22] <RoBo_V> swap space is necessary ? i Have 8GB ram
[08:22] <eeee> RoBo_V: do you want to hibernate?
[08:22] <RoBo_V> I do it it sometimes
[08:23] <eeee> then make a ~9GB swap
[08:23] <RoBo_V> if no hibernate no swap needed ?
[08:23] <akis> geirha, on my opinion the files myst be gone (not move, not rename) but i am still wondering why/how did this happen?
[08:23] <eeee> unless you think you could run out of memory
[08:23] <Baako> geirha i have download 14.04. I right click and i got some windows options and one of the options is "burn disc image"
[08:24] <roadtrip> >how can i move a avi file from one user to another in same computer?
[08:24] <ikonia> roadtrip: just move it somewhere the other user can see it
[08:24] <geirha> akis: given that you used sudo, a tiny typo could cause the files to end up outside /home without any warnings or errors
[08:24] <eeee> akis: what is your problem?
[08:24] <geirha> !burning | Baako
[08:25] <eeee> akis: can you please reiterate?
[08:26] <apb1963> Hobbyboy: Try x2go instead
[08:26] <roadtrip> ikonia; How can i do that in terminal?
[08:26] <ikonia> roadtrip: cp (copy) or mv (move) the file
[08:27] <roadtrip> ikonia: I am getting " Permission denied" message
[08:27] <ikonia> roadtrip: where are you trying to move/copy it to
[08:27] <intgr> Hi! I installed Ubuntu Server 14.04 using mdadm RAID1 and after moving around the disks between SATA ports, it now fails to boot with: "mounting /dev/disk/by-uuid/... on /root failed: Device or resource busy"
[08:27] <captcavy> hello there
[08:27] <akis> eeee, thank you for your interest. have a look here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8231154/
[08:27] <captcavy> where can i find
[08:27] <swizgard> hi. is there a way to use the "Acquire::http::Proxy" option dynamically, so that it is used if given proxy is reachable and not if not?
[08:27] <ikonia> intgr: the raid array probably isn't assumbling
[08:27] <captcavy> app for ubantu
[08:28] <roadtrip> ikonia: to admin desktop
[08:28] <ikonia> roadtrip: you don't have permissions for that - put it somewhere you can both see, eg: /tmp
[08:28] <OerHeks> captcavy, softwarecenter
[08:29] <roadtrip> ikonia: I guess /tmp would like share file?
[08:30] <eeee> akis: press ctrl+r , type mv /home , press ctrl+r again until you see the command you used
[08:30] <cynicallemon> you will lose the file in /tmp on a reboot
[08:30] <roadtrip> Ikonia: I will try. Thanks.
[08:30] <ikonia> roadtrip: it's a place both you and the other user can see
[08:30] <eeee> ( do this from the user you used to move the files )
[08:30] <captcavy> how can i unlock
[08:30] <captcavy> :S
[08:30] <captcavy> cuz
[08:31] <captcavy> it was show unble to lock the adminstration directory
[08:32] <OerHeks> captcavy, do you have softwarecenter & terminal open? close terminal, only one instance can use apt
[08:32] <k1l> captcavy: you can only open one program that wants to handle the program repos at a time. so dont open softwarecenter while you have update manager running
[08:32] <OerHeks> k1l +1 or update manager
[08:32] <captcavy> oh okay so
[08:32] <captcavy> i need to close application and jus open one terminal rite?
[08:32] <akis> eeee, i have already deleted history_bash
[08:33] <intgr> ikonia: Why would that result in an EBUSY error? btw, here are the messages: https://www.dropbox.com/s/2qe5k9y2pkkgz2v/DSC_0292.jpg?dl=0
[08:33] <OerHeks> captcavy, yes
[08:33] <intgr> But you're right, it doesn't assemble sdb for some reason.
[08:34] <captcavy> yes sir :) i am just opening update manager heehe
[08:34] <captcavy> thaks alots :)))
[08:34] <eeee> akis: type ls -l /home , do you see a "new" username there?
[08:35] <captcavy> which linux os is realli perfect ?
[08:35] <tanghao> why do they quit from here
[08:35] <eeee> captcavy: whatever meets your needs
[08:36] <captcavy> kali os or black box?
[08:36] <k1l> captcavy: since you ask in a ubuntu channel: ubuntu
[08:37] <k1l> captcavy: for other answers better ask in ##linux
[08:37] <captcavy> ann is that not same sir? sorry
[08:37] <captcavy> i dun know i thought it all are same :(
[08:37] <tanghao> i'm using Xubuntu and feel nice
[08:38] <DJones> captcavy: You're in the Ubuntu support channel, so Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Lubuntu/Xubuntu, just try each one on a liveusb and see which you prefer, releases like kali or blackbox aren't supported version of Ubuntu
[08:38] <captcavy> yes
[08:38] <captcavy> i c
[08:38] <captcavy> and another is how can i install  ubantu in to my andriod ?
[08:39] <DJones> captcavy: For installing Ubuntu on an android device, I'd suggest joining #ubuntu-touch thats the channel that deals with the phone/tablet version, they should be able to advise you on which tablets/phones are suitable for installing on and how to do that
[08:39] <k1l> captcavy: how can i install my bmw into my chevrolet?  why do you want ubuntu install into a android? if you want to replace the android OS on your smartphone see if ubuntu-touch is supported from the community for your device
[08:40] <v2zz> is there any way to disallow language change for 1 application in ubuntu? i want to disallow all but english in eclipse
[08:40] <bercerobryz> Hello what are the most essential folders to full backup a server in a tar ball?
[08:41] <captcavy> ohh mr cux i juc saw that from urbuntu website :)
[08:42] <tanghao> how to find the software where i had installed in the system
[08:43] <akis> eeee, 3 users i have already
[08:43] <akis> eeee, all 3 are made by me
[08:43] <eeee> akis: what about ls / , any folders akin to /home ?
[08:44] <tanghao> anybody could give me some supports?
[08:44] <tanghao> plz
[08:44] <bercerobryz> Full server backup recommendation that works in real situations?
[08:45] <v2zz> tanghao ls /usr/bin may give you some tips
[08:45] <v2zz> )
[08:45] <tanghao> thanks very much
[08:45] <akis> eeee, what should i type?
[08:45] <eeee> akis: ls /
[08:46] <eeee> see if there's a folder resembling /home
[08:46] <[L]ight> tanhao: Might wanna use software center. Go to installed.
[08:48] <[L]ight> tanghao: /usr/bin contains software not required by system to run, including command line essentials. You can use ubuntu software center.
[08:49] <akis> eeee, it gives me bin, dev, initrd.img, los+found, opt, run, sys, var, boot, etc, initrd.img.old, media, proc, sbin, tmp, vmlinuz, cdrom, home, lib, mnt, root, srv, usr, vmlinuz.old
[08:49] <bryanz2014> guys, what is your recommendation for a full server backup? preferably HOT backup
[08:49] <tanghao> i had listed the /usr/bin,but i cannot find the soft i am using just now
[08:50] <bryanz2014> @tanghao: find -name 'softwarenamehere'
[08:50] <bryanz2014> @tanghao: find \ -name 'softwarenamehere'
[08:51] <tanghao> thx
[08:51] <tanghao> is there a \ contained in this command?
[08:51] <bryanz2014> yes
[08:51] <tanghao> ok
[08:51] <bryanz2014> \ is root
[08:52] <bryanz2014> lets say for example find \ -name 'zentyal'
[08:52] <bryanz2014> that will list all folders or files that has the name zentyal
[08:55] <tanghao> i had install a software use the package named "sogou_pinyin_linux_<IP_ADDRESS>7_amd64.deb",
[08:56] <tanghao> and now i cant find it
[08:56] <tanghao> neither ls /usr/bin nor find \ -name "sougou"
[08:56] <manstermouse> hello, i get "ERR: Couldn't read the first disk sector" when trying to boot HBCD 15.2 from an usb. Script  line used by yumi is COM32 /HBCD/Boot/chain.c32 ntldr=/HBCD/grldr
[08:57] <manstermouse> i dont recall my usb has bad sectors or anything
[08:58] <OerHeks> tanghao, that is an special chinese app, maybe this page is any help http://askubuntu.com/questions/450255/installing-sogou-%E6%90%9C%E7%8B%97%E6%8B%BC%E9%9F%B3
[08:58] <tanghao> yes,it's a input method of chinese
[09:01] <tanghao> oh,yes,i got
[09:01] <tanghao> it
[09:02] <tanghao> i had use the command "dpkg -l sougou*"
[09:02] <tanghao> thank you
[09:03] <_blk> tanghao, find \ -name "sougou" << btw, that's the wrong slash,  you probably want /
[09:03] <_blk> (unless you meant to escape that following whitespace but that doesn't make much sense)
[09:08] <tanghao> i had already unist the software by dpkg -P,but there still display the sougou input method in the status bar
[09:08] <bryanz2014> how about a restart
[09:08] <He4dShOt> hello
[09:08] <tanghao> let me try
[09:08] <bryanz2014> also check if there are running services
[09:08] <bryanz2014> service --status -all
[09:09] <bryanz2014> to stop service
[09:09] <bryanz2014> service nameofservice stop
[09:10] <bryanz2014> and run the uninstall command again
[09:11] <He4dShOt> I have a problem...X won't start automatically anymore
[09:11] <He4dShOt> can't understand why
[09:12] <tanghao> as a noob ,i can only reboot to verify my operation,sadly
[09:13] <asher1> someone
[09:13] <asher1> help please
[09:13] <zagaza> hi guys, I am getting 500 oops cannot change directory with vsftpd, don't know where else to ask this, anyone got a clue?
[09:13] <zagaza> it works for all my other folders, but for this one folder it just wont work
[09:13] <dbugger> Hey guys. I am making an script to install a LAMP server, but when I come across this command, 'apt-get install mysql-server', I realized that the installation is interactive (it asks you for the root password). Is there a way to script this step, without needing to have someone in the terminal?
[09:14] <eeee> akis: try this, grep "mv /home" /var/log/auth.log
[09:14] <asher1> i have problem with this libpq++.h... configure: error: Unable to find libpq++.h
[09:14] <asher1> how  i can fix this?
[09:14] <zagaza> nvm fixed it
[09:15] <abd_bela> #ubuntu-fr
[09:15] <bryanz2014> @zagaza: what was the fix for that?
[09:15] <bryanz2014> is it permissions?
[09:16] <Guest32601_> hi
[09:16] <zagaza> bryanz2014 I had set the wrong folder for the user to own
[09:17] <_blk> asher1, you need to install the development headers for whatever library is missing. apt-file search libpq++.h didn't reveal anything from the ubuntu repositories, so you'll have to find it externally
[09:17] <tanghao> hello,i am back
[09:18] <tanghao> the sougou app had already disappeared after my reboot
[09:18] <_blk> asher1, since you're asking the question I suppose that you're not very used to compiling and the task may prove quite challenging (but that's how you learn) - best of luck!
[09:18] <tanghao> lol
[09:18] <bryanz2014> right
[09:19] <akis> eeee: it returns me the movement. whta shoul i search for?
[09:19] <eeee> akis: search for the command you used,
[09:20] <dbugger> My mind has been blown: "export DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive"
[09:20] <tanghao> and i had google out a way to find the app had installed
[09:20] <tanghao> yum
[09:20] <tanghao> had you even used it?
[09:20] <tanghao> bryan
[09:20] <tanghao> bryanz
[09:21] <akis> eeee: i found the command and the files i wanted to move and the dirs (source-destination) but what can i understand from this now?
[09:21] <eeee> akis: you wanted to know what happened to the files right?
[09:21] <asher1> ok
[09:21] <janmalte> If I encrypt my home, is it enough to backup the /home/.ecryptfs/ or do I need to backup the /home/USER too?
[09:22] <eeee> asher1: i guess, you could delete the files
[09:22] <akis> yep. the files as i mentioned they dont exist anymore in source either in destination, which are on this log
[09:22] <eeee> sorry, that was for akis
[09:23] <eeee> akis: yes, did you find the command you issued ?
[09:23] <akis> yes i did
[09:23] <asher1> but
[09:23] <eeee> are the files there?
[09:23] <asher1> i no see nothing
[09:23] <asher1> when you tell to me
[09:23] <eeee> what was the command
[09:23] <asher1> write this in Terminal
[09:23] <asher1>  apt-file search libpq++.h
[09:23] <_blk> dbugger, there's a couple of options. chmod +s the file while you're root, then the script will run as root. If for some reason you want to pipe the password from inside the script this might help: https://superuser.com/questions/67765/sudo-with-password-in-one-command-line (though not very safe.. chmod 700 might help a tiny bit), or third, fix up the sudoers file to not request a password for this command/user
[09:24] <asher1> _blk
[09:24] <akis> mv /home/user/dir_name/* /home/other_user/
[09:24] <eeee> asher1: try to install libpqxx-dev, sudo apt-get install libpqxx-dev
[09:25] <tanghao> fuck ,yum can only find the rpm app
[09:25] <ikonia> tanghao: please control your language
[09:25] <ikonia> tanghao: we do not welcome swearing in this channel
[09:25]  * cynicallemon very suprised at that...
[09:25] <tanghao> ...sorry
[09:26] <asher1>  ok
[09:26] <tanghao> iam wrong
[09:26] <Guest38281> i'm 12 years old and what is this
[09:26] <asher1> eee
[09:26] <asher1> i doing this
[09:26] <asher1> what now?
[09:26] <k1l> yum? ubuntu uses the apt .deb package system.
[09:26] <eeee> asher1: run make again
[09:26] <k1l> !topic | Guest38281
[09:27] <akis> eeee, i repeat the command i found in this log is the right one. but the files were disappeared and i repeated the whole procedure using cp -r and new files form my records. so how this log help me to find where the initial files went (if went somewhere and not deleted or renamed)?
[09:27] <eeee> !find libpq++
[09:27] <cynicallemon> Guest38
[09:27] <asher1> again error
[09:27] <Rory> Is there a "neater" way of doing the following? (Find all files below the current directory which do not end in gz, and tail them)
[09:27] <Rory> find  -type f | grep -v gz$ | xargs tail -F
[09:27] <cynicallemon> Guest38281: you need the next door along
[09:27] <asher1> eeee
[09:28] <tanghao> i hadn't aware the yum command a moment ago
[09:28] <asher1> again error
[09:28] <[L]ight> Rory: use grep -i -v [files you want to leave out]
[09:28] <[L]ight> Rory: Scratch that. Misread.
[09:29] <Rory> I know "find" itsself can do a lot of cool stuff, but I tend to mostly pipe its output out to grep and things
[09:29] <Rory> like the pipe to xargs there
[09:29] <dragos> hello
[09:29] <dragos> ubuntu craashes my touchpad
[09:29] <akis> eeee: on my opinion...is it possible nothing was moved because the right command to move all the subdirs and the file inside them is mv -r and not just mv? because in log file i see only the first directory, not the sub dirs, not the files inside them. in this case why the files was gone? very strange for me!
[09:29] <dragos> anybody can help me
[09:30] <asher1> No working
[09:30] <asher1> again error and Error eeee
[09:30] <asher1> you know how i can fix this?
[09:30] <tanghao> is that dpkg -l can only find the software installed by deb package?
[09:31] <xenobyte> hi there! I just installed kubuntu 14.04 and it works like a charm, but my sound does not working.
[09:31] <[L]ight> Rory: Find is hard to master. Especially because it uses X-style parameters.
[09:31] <xenobyte> I ran an alsa-info script which output you can find here: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=ea9accc08794a5db12f934929ccede13eb367870
[09:31] <xenobyte> I can't find an error-message or something
[09:31] <bryanz2014> xenobyte: you should have checked hardware compatibility before installing kubuntu. or running a livecd to determine which one will not work native
[09:32] <Rory> xenobyte: It's more than likely a different sound device is selected in KDE's audio settings
[09:32] <eeee> akis: mv will copy recursively, -r is for cp
[09:32] <[L]ight> Rory: Make sure it's the right sound device being used.
[09:32] <bryanz2014> xenobyte: could also be your OS doesnt support your audio hardware
[09:32] <xenobyte> bryanz2014: I did, and I ran gentoo before, but I installed kubuntu cause I need a working system for a project asap
[09:32] <Rory> xenobyte: For example, it might be trying to output through the HDMI port on your graphics card; I know my PC does that with KDE
[09:32] <eeee> (mv will move recursively :) )
[09:33] <asher1> ?
[09:33] <eeee> asher1: try sudo apt-get install libpqxx3-dev
[09:33] <xenobyte> Rory: I already changed priority of the sound-devices. Neither hdmi then built-in audio are working
[09:33] <dragos> h
[09:33] <dragos> h
[09:33] <dragos> h
[09:33] <dragos> h
[09:33] <dragos> h
[09:33] <dragos> kill all
[09:33] <unopaste> dragos you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[09:33] <bryanz2014> if it was running with live cd, its unlikely that it wont work on an installed OS
[09:34] <akis> eeee: so in this case why didnt move anything, but only made the dirs/subdirs/files disappeared? that is my question. i think you are close...
[09:34] <eeee> asher1: wait, try sudo apt-get install libpq-dev
[09:34] <xenobyte> bryanz2014: please see my link. The kernel seems to work fine with the hardware
[09:34] <asher1> eeee
[09:34] <asher1> again error
[09:35] <akis> eeee: all 3 accounts are encrypted, does this counts?
[09:36] <asher1> eeee
[09:37] <eeee> asher1: what's the error, and what are you ultimately trying to install ?
[09:37] <eeee> akis: don't think so
[09:37] <asher1> i try install something project ircd
[09:37] <asher1> and when i make configure
[09:37] <asher1> i see this
[09:37] <akis> eeee: i dont think so too because cp -r worked perfectly.
[09:37] <asher1> libpq++.h... configure: error: Unable to find libpq++.h
[09:38] <xenobyte> Rory: bryanz2014: It seems to be some kind of bug back in ubuntu 12, but it worked with the 14.04 live-cd: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2114985
[09:39] <eeee> akis: can you get a filename of one of the files?
[09:39] <akis> eeee: so remains the same question. the command was right (maybe) and is inside the log file, but no trace for lost dir/sudirs/files. are they gone? are they deleted? as far as i can search i found nothing.
[09:40] <akis> eeee: get exactly what? i konw the names of all these files
[09:42] <eeee> asher1:  sudo apt-get install postgresql
[09:42] <eeee> akis: any file
[09:42] <eeee> that is unique to it
[09:42] <akis> ok, what should i do with that name?
[09:43] <eeee> sudo find / -iname <filename>
[09:44] <eeee> that'll ignore caps
[09:44] <eeee> but you have to type the whole filename
[09:45] <akis> eeee: ok, what should i do with that name?
[09:45] <eeee> did it return something?
[09:46] <eeee> ( other than where they are now )
[09:47] <eeee> akis: ah, sudo find / -iname <name>
[09:47] <eeee> replace <name> with the name of the file
[09:50] <akis> eeee: searching...
[09:50] <He4dShOt> how can i look why X is not starting?
[09:51] <eldariond> hi !
[09:51] <blackthor> hello. i appear to have a raid card that isn't supported in the 14.04.1 LTS (linux upstream kernel 3.13.11).   the previous one was supported without issues.  there is a source code available, but i wonder if i can't use a more recent kernel instead of having to compile and add a driver manually (i don't ever want to break the apt-get upgrade)
[09:51] <eldariond> how to reset /dev permission after chmod -R 755 on wrong dire ?
[09:51] <eeee> He4dShOt:  /var/log/Xorg.0.log maybe
[09:51] <He4dShOt> eeee, it's not even creating the file
[09:51] <Baako> hi guys. i just download ubuntu 14.04 LTS. what should i do after installing it?
[09:51] <akis> eeee: found only the one which is in the right user account, on the right subdir after in repeated the procedure with cp -r
[09:51] <eeee> He4dShOt: is this ubuntu?
[09:52] <He4dShOt> eeee, yes
[09:52] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | Baako, you should verify it.
[09:52] <He4dShOt> eeee, I tried to upgrade the nvidia driver and now X won't start anymore
[09:52] <He4dShOt> it is not even trying
[09:52] <He4dShOt> i don't have any error
[09:53] <Baako> cfhowlett thats all?
[09:53] <cfhowlett> Baako, ... oh, I do't know.  Install it?
[09:54] <akis> eeee: does this command search /root too?
[09:54] <Baako> cfhowlett install it then verifty? or verifty before install :~(
[09:54] <akis> searches, sorry
[09:54] <eeee> akis: yes, if you had an external hdd, or other filesystems mounted at the time though it won't
[09:54] <eeee> search them, if they aren't mounted now
[09:54] <cfhowlett> Baako, verify.  then install.
[09:55] <blackthor> He4dShOt: remove the nvidia driver and reinstall the other one ?
[09:55] <He4dShOt> blackthor, I've already tried with 3 different versions
[09:55] <mariachi> hey there! I'm having trouble using a TP-Link 3G "router" (not sure what to call it). When I had windows everything was smooth and fast and now it's suuuuuuuuuper slow, even though wifi n is being used.  How can i verifty it via windows cmd?
[09:57] <eeee> akis: i think so
[09:58] <cfhowlett> Baako, http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[09:58] <eeee> akis: is there a particularly large file that was copied?
[09:58] <carlos> hadgfvswKÀGNNNNNNNNNNNNNNWHIPàlgnmdA e
[09:59] <akis> yes there is. one file was 1,4 gb
[09:59] <Guest96699> zjèmzfsnp
[09:59] <cfhowlett> Guest96699, English???
[09:59] <eeee> akis: sudo find / -size +1G
[10:03] <ilfabri> hi all, i'm setting up a minipc with ubuntu 32bit for working purposes. I need to compile a modified kernel to use a pci serial gsm module. i had done everything ok but i get the *.deb files for amd64 (i'm working on an Ubuntu64). How can i generate the debs for the appropriate architecture?
[10:05] <Baako> cfhowlett :( the md5 sum is different
[10:05] <Baako> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[10:05] <cfhowlett> Baako, then you got a funky download.  it does happen.  use torrent next time.
[10:06] <akis> eeee: paste.ubuntu.com/8231818/  and still working/searching or maybe hangs
[10:06] <Baako> cfhowlett the offical site download is fcked?
[10:06] <eeee> Baako: are you sure?
[10:07] <cfhowlett> Baako, of course not.  but when transferring almost 2 gigs of data, things do go bad from time to time.  bad download = bad iso
[10:07] <Baako> 119cb63b48c9a18f31f417f09655efbd is the one winmd5sum shows and this is the one from the subuntu site dccff28314d9ae4ed262cfc6f35e5153
[10:07] <OerHeks> Baako the 14,04,1 hashes are missing from that page, see here http://releases.ubuntu.com/trusty/MD5SUMS
[10:07]  * cfhowlett doesn't understand why the 14.04.1 hashes are STILL not listed.
[10:07] <OerHeks> your hash number is from the *ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[10:08] <OerHeks> cfhowlett, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-docs/+bug/1349715
[10:08] <Baako> OerHeks 119cb63b48c9a18f31f417f09655efbd *ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso is the same md5 sum winmd5sum shows
[10:08] <OerHeks> Baako, that is correct
[10:09] <cfhowlett> ... "triaged" ... I think when you say that word, you mean something different than when I say that word.
[10:09] <Baako> OerHeks in that case my download is correct
[10:09] <OerHeks> cfhowlett, not sure confirmed is better than triaged
[10:10] <akis> eeee: paste.ubuntu.com/8231818/  still working, i dont think it goes all right.
[10:10] <OerHeks> "Nobody on the docs team has rights to edit the page, as the person that did has long since left the team.¨
[10:10]  * cfhowlett faceplants to keyboard
[10:11] <eeee> akis: yeah shouldn't take this long
[10:11] <akis> eeee: a ok, what are you conclude with the message i got already?
[10:13] <eeee> nothing, i get the same errors here, but it doesn't hang it
[10:14] <akis> eeee: the HD led lights permanently. i think it hanged.
[10:14] <eeee> try to run again if you want
[10:16] <eeee> akis: if you have any external hdd's , unmount first
[10:16] <akis> eeee: i run it twice. i log out and try for 3rd time. no external devices.
[10:18] <akis> eeee: for a 3rd time the same results and then working and working. who knows why!
[10:19] <akis> eeee: is there any similar command for dirs too?
[10:20] <Junior> hello!
[10:22] <Junior> using live build i can create a hybrid live iso for a ubuntu 14.04. the issue is that it won't boot because ion the casper folder i have initrd.img-3.13.0-35-generic instead of initrd.lz and vmlinuz-3.13.0-35-generic intead of vmlinuz. any ideeas how to change that directly in live build?
[10:22] <eeee> you could use du -m | awk '$1 > 1000' , but i think there's a better way
[10:22] <eeee> sorry, sudo du -m / | awk '$1 > 1000'
[10:27] <jogwtr> running apt-get update on 10.04 LTS, I get a "The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>anyone else running into this problem?
[10:28] <WeiJunLi> http://pastebin.com/5RfaEws7   help pls
[10:31] <OerHeks> jogwtr, " sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 40976EAF437D05B5 "  >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/198371/apt-encounters-errors-with-bad-gpg-keys
[10:33] <waykool99> under /media, in older versions it used to show your own drive. now its hidden somehow. why is that?
[10:34] <jogwtr> OerHeks, already importet the key again, cleared /var/lib/apt/lists, done apt-get clean and then apt-get update again. error message is still there
[10:35] <OerHeks> jogwtr, is this 10.04 server ?
[10:35] <OerHeks> only 10.04 server is still supported, the desktoppackages/repo's are not, maybe that is your issue
[10:35] <jogwtr> OerHeks, yes
[10:37] <OerHeks> jogwtr, oke, then i have no clue
[10:38] <jogwtr> OerHeks, the error happend with the lucid-updates channel. thats still active and has a actual Release.gpg
[10:38] <WeiJunLi> http://pastebin.com/5RfaEws7  - how to fix this error?
[10:38] <yurezkie> привет
[10:40] <k1l> !ru | yurezkie
[10:47] <asher1> ?
[10:47] <WeiJunLi> Anyone can help me with this Openjdk issue?
[10:48] <lmk> hello
[10:49] <lmk> 人还挺多的
[10:51] <deb_ac> hey iptable, a few days ago you told me a command to move all files in a series of subdirectories up the file hierarchy the the main dir that all the subs were in. I had to reformat my hd and didnt write it down.. could you remind me what it is?
[10:52] <deb_ac> I remember it was some variation of find and ended with 'done'
[10:52] <deb_ac> I cant believe I didnt write it down..
[10:53] <cfhowlett> !cn | lmk,
[10:53] <lmk> en?
[10:53] <lmk> write what?
[10:56] <RoBo_V> hey guys if i trying to make 2 partitions in Ubuntu while installing that is / and /home , what minimum size it shouuld be ?
[10:57] <ikonia> RoBo_V: home - totally up to you
[10:57] <ikonia> RoBo_V: for a desktop 10G is a "safe" starting point
[10:57] <RoBo_V> so that iif i have to repalce it in future i dont have to eease /home
[10:57] <ikonia> RoBo_V: it's normally around 4G for the whole system, so 10G is a safe starting point
[10:57] <RoBo_V> just swipe out / and install new.
[10:57] <RoBo_V> ikonia: ok and for root ?
[10:58] <waykool99> Bleachbit does a good job but its so painfully long, like 7 hours. could it be i checked delete all thumbnails? and does go to my other partition a different ver of Ubunu?
[10:58] <mirelb> do not forget also a swap directory
[10:58] <ikonia> RoBo_V: 10G for root
[10:58] <ikonia> RoBo_V: home is as big as you want
[10:58] <waykool99> *Ubuntu
[10:58] <RoBo_V> ikonia: basically what root will fill up with while I operate
[10:59] <ikonia> RoBo_V: no
[10:59] <RoBo_V> packages and all will go to /home right ?
[10:59] <ikonia> RoBo_V: the system is approx 4GB, if you install packages it will go to /
[10:59] <ikonia> RoBo_V: your personal data is in /home hence why it's up to you how big
[11:00] <cynicallemon> waykool99: you probably have the slow options ticked like free disk space and memory
[11:00] <waykool99> yes, you're correct cynical
[11:01] <waykool99> but i uncheck Memory. i don't want it fooling with linux swap
[11:02] <RoBo_V> ikonia: I see, ok
[11:05] <interweb> Hi , Between mplayer and mplayer2 which one is better ?
[11:08] <hrw> hi guys
[11:08] <hrw> which package I have to install to get grub for EFI booting?
[11:08] <OerHeks> interweb, mplayer2 is better, but that is my opinion
[11:15] <dacks> is anyone using LXLE os here? i want to ask how to resize the icons on the desktop
[11:16] <OerHeks> lxle os is not lubuntu, only non-derivates are supported hete, dacks
[11:16] <dacks> oh... ok thanks
[11:16] <OerHeks> i'm not sure they have an own irc-channel
[11:17] <dacks> thanks OerHerks i will just try to look around
[11:22] <lmk> hello
[11:23] <asher1> eeee
[11:24] <asher1> listen this give to me error
[11:24] <asher1> even what you tell to me
[11:24] <asher1> no work
[11:24] <asher1> i used with ubuntu 10.04
[11:24] <asher1> libpq++.h... configure: error: Unable to find libpq++.h
[11:30] <iptable> deb_ac, find /path/to/dir -type f |while read fn; do mv "${fn}" /path/to/new; done
[11:31] <iptable> deb_ac, first mkdir /path/to/new
[11:32] <iptable> RoBo_V, my / (with a lot of crap) is 28GB atm. I normally give it 50GB just to be sure it WILL last. If you have the space, do that. If not, then cut it down.
[11:33] <iptable> RoBo_V, that's for desktop, server will obiovusly be different. rest goes to /home (and obviously 1.5*RAM for swap to allow for swap use and hibernation).
[11:34] <deb_ac> iptable, thank you again man. I sincerely appreciate it!
[11:35] <vatarax> Hey ! I have problem on instaling Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS from usb. On select location have erron window. Windows name and errorror info is ??? ??? onyli :( any tip.(redownloading no help. system load from usb work)
[11:40] <sarkyniin> hey
[11:40] <sarkyniin> I did something really dumb and replaced files in /usr/bin with symlinks of other files
[11:40] <sarkyniin> and it gives me a "cannot execute binary file" error
[11:40] <sarkyniin> even by reinstalling the software I deleted the files from, it still gives me the error
[11:40] <sarkyniin> any way to fix my mistake
[11:41] <cfhowlett> sarkyniin, reinstall
 even by reinstalling the software I deleted the files from, it still gives me the error
[11:41] <cfhowlett> sarkyniin, install the OS, not just the files
[11:42] <Valarkin_> Hi. 14.04 server with 6x4 TB drives. Need to get them all acting as a single volume on to which exising /home/ may be moved.
[11:42] <cfhowlett> !raid | valarkin
[11:43] <Valarkin_> thanks cfhowlett
[11:43] <iptable> Valarkin_, need redundancy? use raid5/6. Not worried if you loose all data when 1 drive dies? then use raid0 or LVM
[11:43] <cfhowlett> Valarkin_, never done one myself but iptable would know
[11:44] <Valarkin_> How much would I lose to redundancy iptable?
[11:44] <Valarkin_> seriously, seriously noob, so advance apologies ;)
[11:44] <AlbertoP81> ciao
[11:44] <ObrienDave> 50% usually, depends
[11:44] <iptable> Valarkin_, depends. If you use raid5, one drive space.
[11:45] <iptable> ObrienDave, no, 50% is RAID1+0
[11:45] <Valarkin_> So 12TB avail with 1 drive redundancy?
[11:45] <ObrienDave> ok, mirroring
[11:45] <cfhowlett> Valarkin_, it's a great question!  don't feel bad.
[11:45] <iptable> Valarkin_, no, that's incorrect
[11:45] <Valarkin_> oh wait
[11:45] <raub> iptable: raid + LVM perhaps?
[11:45] <Valarkin_> 6x4 = 24
[11:45] <Valarkin_> lol
[11:45] <Valarkin_> so 20 and 1 drive?
[11:45] <iptable> Valarkin_, 1 drive. So with 6x4TB you have usable 5x4TB and 1x4TB is redundancy.
[11:45] <iptable> Valarkin_, so usable 20TB and lost 4TB.
[11:46] <Valarkin_> thats exactly what i am after.
[11:46] <RoBo_V> iptable: good to know, I have cutted tha partition of 50GB in total, should I add more to it ?  Im now making my Ubuntu as primary OS- ditching windows (or for game only)
[11:46] <tanghao> hello
[11:46] <raub> With 6 drives I would consider raid6
[11:46] <Valarkin_> whats the salient difference?
[11:46] <iptable> Valarkin_, that's RAID5. If you want to use 2 drives for redundancy (allowing you to loose any 2 drives in the set), use RAID6. With 6 drives, as raub said, I wouls eriously consider RAID6 instead.
[11:46] <tanghao> here is a software which i cannot receive it by apt-get
[11:46] <iptable> Valarkin_, with RAID6, you will loose 2 drive capacity
[11:47] <tanghao> i had already apt-get update
[11:47] <Valarkin_> Am I likely to suffer a dual drive failure?
[11:47] <Valarkin_> rented dedibox with ovh
[11:47] <iptable> Valarkin_, so, RAID5 = 1 drive loss max and 20TB usable, 4TB not. With RAID6, it's 2 drives max loss and 16TB usable, 8TB not.
[11:47] <raub> tanghao: do you know if said package is available through the repositories you are using?
[11:47] <Valarkin_> I think i will go for raid 5 then - it's the same Is my local drobo :D
[11:48] <raub> Valarkin_: how close are you to the raid if it takes a dump?
[11:48] <iptable> Valarkin_, you will most likely have dual drive failure actually ;). What happens is when you replace a failed drive, ALL drives work overtime to try and recreate the image set on the new drive. This results in massive disk use and could kill another drive.
[11:48] <Valarkin_> it's a rented dedi - they handle hardware fails
[11:48] <cfhowlett> !details | tanghao, are you really expecting us to guess the name of the package????
[11:48] <iptable> Valarkin_, Especially if the drives are same model/make and same manufacturing line
[11:48] <Valarkin_> gotcha - so raid six to be sure
[11:48] <iptable> Valarkin_, it's not about hardware fails though, is it? it's about data lost due to second drive burnout while first one is rebuilding
[11:49] <raub> Valarkin_: what is their response time?
[11:49] <tanghao> the day before yesterday i had installed the app used the same way successfully
[11:49] <Valarkin_> giving me 16 and 2x redundancy
[11:49] <Valarkin_> let me check
[11:49] <tanghao> add the repository firstly,the update
[11:49] <tanghao> and the i apt-get install fcitx-sogoupinyin
[11:49] <cfhowlett> !cn | tanghao,
[11:50] <tanghao> thx
[11:50] <raub> tanghao: post relevant lines from /var/log/apt/term.log
[11:50] <iptable> Valarkin_, so, during installation choose to create 1 partition on each drive, full drive size, type: physical hardware for raid. Then go to raid configuration and choose to create a raid6 array. add all the drive partitions to array and choose "0 spares". Then finish. This will make another "drive/partition" appear which will basically be the RAID6 array of all drives.
[11:51] <Valarkin_> 2 hours looks like for hardware response
[11:51] <unopaste> Valarkin_ you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
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[11:52] <iptable> uhm, what happened?
[11:52] <iptable> have we all been muted for talking too fast?
[11:52] <DJones> The bot got mized with the netsplits
[11:52] <DJones> mixed
[11:52] <cfhowlett> iptable, I'm guessing netsplit
[11:52] <raub> I dunno. Weird netsplit.
[11:52] <Valarkin_> I was
[11:52] <iptable> I'd rather think I was talking this fast :P
[11:52] <iptable> Valarkin_, so, during installation choose to create 1 partition on each drive, full drive size, type: physical hardware for raid. Then go to raid configuration and choose to create a raid6 array. add all the drive partitions to array and choose "0 spares". Then finish. This will make another "drive/partition" appear which will basically be the RAID6 array of all drives.
[11:52] <Valarkin_> iptable that will wipe any existing data ?
[11:53] <iptable> yes
[11:53] <Valarkin_> is there a way to do it non destructively?
[11:53] <iptable> no
[11:53] <Valarkin_> yay!
[11:53] <iptable> you plan your installation in advance
[11:53] <Valarkin_> oh man, I just got this puppy working :D
[11:53] <Valarkin_> Yeah, I completely blanked it
[11:53] <raub> If you are using the drives to raid, you need to reformat said drives
[11:53] <Valarkin_> as i say, utter noob.
[11:53] <raub> Meh, no worries Valarkin_
[11:54] <Valarkin_> not a biggie, I now know what to do after :D
[11:54] <iptable> Valarkin_, then, I would suggest you do some kind of split, so you could put LVM on that raid partition, and on LVM you can create logical volumes. create 1 for / and 1 for /home and 1 for swap. partition the 3 partitions with respective filesystems and bob IS you uncle
[11:54] <Valarkin_> Lucky os install #15 otw :D
[11:54] <Valarkin_> teh way i was picturing it in my head was parts for sys and swap then one large one for the remaining space
[11:54] <raub> Valarkin_: Yeah
[11:55] <Valarkin_> and /home/
[11:55] <iptable> Valarkin_, 3 parts. 1=/, 1=swap, 1=/home
[11:55] <raub> FYI, in an ubuntu install I have /boot and / outside LVM and then /usr and /var and sometimes /home in it
[11:55] <Valarkin_> that will allow me to reinstall the os without having to mess with the home (assuming I cock things up entirely) ?
[11:55] <iptable> Valarkin_, I covered that already as well, look at my last 2 long responses ;)
[11:55] <metaspike> with a setup like that, what happens if you loose a drive, and cannot replace it?
[11:55] <Valarkin_> rofl, sorry, will do :d
[11:55] <iptable> Valarkin_, yes, it will
[11:56] <raub> iptable: I usually do not use swap, bu if I do, it's up to lvm
[11:56] <iptable> I pout swap on raid
[11:56] <iptable> otherwise when 1 drive dies, swap dies, system dies
[11:56] <raub> iptable: I meant raid->lvm
[11:56] <iptable> you WANT swap on RAID to avoid reboots.
[11:56] <raub> so whether people are in lvm or not they are still in raid
[11:57] <iptable> raub, yes, that's what I suggested. all disks RAID6=>LVM=>3 volumes (/, /home, swap)
[11:57] <raub> iptable: I am old school and like /usr and /var in their ouwn little lvm partitions =)
[11:57] <iptable> ugh, that is old school
[11:57] <ikonia> that's obsolete
[11:57] <ikonia> not old school
[11:57] <iptable> nowadays we prefer and do /, /home and swap only.
[11:57] <iptable> old school = obsolete? :P
[11:58] <ikonia> there are benifits to things like /var or /tmp
[11:58] <iptable> in certain use scenarios
[11:58] <iptable> not for "I'm not sure, general purpose" though
[11:58] <ikonia> there should be no need in the modern distos for /usr to be seperate
[11:58] <raub> ikonia: that would then explain why my ticket about moving /var to its own partition has never been touched
[11:59] <iptable> uhm, why would you need /var on separate partition by default? 99% of cases you want it with the rest of the OS. Only certain use scenarios on certain server installations require own partition
[11:59] <iptable> even /var/run is moved to /run nowadays and /var/tmp is just symlink to /tmp too
[12:00] <raub> metaspike: if you lose a drive in raid6 you might be ok for a while. But don't plan on forgetting that for a week or so
[12:00] <iptable> raub, depends. same drives from same manufacturing line? probably even if swapped immediately you will burn another one while reimaging
[12:00] <geirha> When I realize I made / too small, I partition some space somewhere and make it /usr
[12:01] <ikonia> bad call
[12:01] <iptable> or you could have just change size of /home and /
[12:01] <iptable> otherwise it just gets dirty.
[12:02] <geirha> nah, resizing partitions takes time. making a new partition to replace /usr can be done on the fly
[12:02] <iptable> or do as I do and give your / between 50GB and 100GB and never run out of space on a desktop for /. With 1 or 2TB drives that's not a lot of space.
[12:02] <iptable> on servers, that's another story and depends on use. e.g. I got separate partition on some of the hosts specifically for /var/lib/lxc, but you will know why I don't that ;)
[12:02] <iptable> done that, not don't that
[12:03] <raub> I make / around 2G and never needed more, geirha. Since my /var and /usr are in lvm, I can resize them as needed. Even if, say, /var gets filled (had issues with my syslog server ignoring a host), I am good.
[12:04] <raub> Most of the time I have /usr mounted as ro too
[12:04] <raub> But, I digress
[12:05] <iptable> raub, and instead I like to just use my desktop. am I the only one?
[12:06] <yoyobla> iptable: Use it for what?
[12:06] <geirha> The reason I end up running out of space on / is because the install was made along side my main install and only meant to test the latest Ubuntu release, but then I end up using it all the time because it works so well and suddenly that small install is my main install
[12:07] <iptable> yoyobla, like, browsing, gaming, working (which involves coding and installing VMs), you know. using?
[12:08] <iptable> yoyobla, seems that most people use their desktop as a fiddling ground for experiments. I do that to VMs when I feel like it. My host OS is a simple install with no admin required apart from ocasional upgrades
[12:08] <yoyobla> iptable: I do that with a computer, not with a desktop.
[12:08] <iptable> raub, your install would have exploded in my face. My / (skipping /var and /usr) is 4.5GB. bad decision.
[12:09] <iptable> yoyobla, uhm. word game? desktop computer, in short, my common convention, desktop. let's not go there.
[12:12] <raub> iptable, like everything else it depends on the application. If as you said before you have a 100GB HD, I LVM most of the thing and set it up as I mentioned. If the disk is much smaller, I will probably lean towards a single partition. No one-size-fits-all ;)
[12:12] <mat619> Hi there. I just set up a 14.04.1 server install on a new machine, which shows some weird behavior in regard of display resolution, hope you can help me fix this: During the first stages of bootup the display is native 1280x1024, all is well, but then suddenly right before showing the login prompt the TTY resolution changes to something that looks like 1024x768 on 1280x1024, with blank areas to the right and bottom.
[12:13] <mat619> VGA and display controller is a "Intel Corporation Atom Processor D4xx/D5xx/N4xx/N5xx Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)"
[12:13] <somsip> mat619: have you installed a desktop on a server install?
[12:13] <mat619> somsip: no, as I mentioned it's a server install
[12:14] <somsip> mat619: attached to a monitor? Using a command line login?
[12:14] <mat619> somsip: yup.
[12:14] <somsip> mat619: k - understand now
[12:15] <iptable> raub, yes, agreed, although for new users who are, as they describe, noob, I would suggesting keeping it as simple and flexible as one can. 1 / + /home + 1 swap. It's new user vs personal preference thing.
[12:15] <somsip> mat619: this might lead you in the right direction http://askubuntu.com/questions/299975/proper-way-to-change-terminal-resolution-in-ubuntu-server-13-04 (and the linked question too)
[12:15] <iptable> raub, like I said, on some servers I have separate partition for /var/lib/lxc and on one I got separate partition per container. on a few I got separate partition for /var/lib/libvirt. depends on use.
[12:16] <mat619> somsip: I found that thread earlier and tried the "hwinfo --framebuffer" command, but a default 14.04.1 server install doesn't have hwinfo, it seems
[12:17] <knob> Good morning everyone...  Is there a vi or vim   for Ubuntu's desktop environment?
[12:17] <marjinal1st> How can I convert my 32 bit WAV samples to 16 bit in Ubuntu?
[12:17] <knob> Instead of gedit... something with  vi's   key bindings?
[12:17] <knob> marjinal1st, I would look into audacity
[12:17] <iptable> mat619, what's the purpose of the excercise? (asking as 99% of "want graphics" cases are desktop GUIs and server cases use ssh or other terminal)
[12:18] <iptable> knob, yes, gvim
[12:18] <geirha> knob: vim-gnome
[12:18] <knob> On my way to check those out... thanks iptable and geirha !
[12:18] <geirha> knob: vim-gnome is the package name, gvim is the command installed by said package
[12:19] <iptable> marjinal1st, GUI or want to script it (in cli)?
[12:19] <knob> OOh... ok ok.   Cool.    I am slowly learning more and more vi, and I like it a lot.
[12:19] <mat619> iptable: the purpose of the excercise is hooking up that machine to the rack's KVM switch with integrated 19" TFT panel, for local and/or emergency maintenance work
[12:19] <knob> blown away by   :.,+10s/foo/bar/g        ... I kid you not!
[12:19] <iptable> mat619, so for emergency work. I would think the server will be configured for low graphics per design.
[12:20] <iptable> knob, yes, it IS much better than others. note that if someone asks you to write something in their "notepad", you will end all your text files with :wq :/ I keep doing that
[12:21] <cfhowlett> marjinal1st, avconv will do that.
[12:21] <iptable> mat619, is it that important to have good graphics enabled on a server for terminal emergency access via KVM that you are prepared to play with graphics settings and risk the system stbility?
[12:22] <cfhowlett> marjinal1st, i believe vlc-player might also work
[12:22] <geirha> luckily most editors don't do anything when you hit Esc
[12:22] <mat619> iptable: not only emergency work, also regular maintenance work that happens in the server room locally on the machine. It's a network testing & monitoring machine, so you often reconfigure the network settings along with the cabling to troubleshoot issues in various subnets
[12:22] <iptable> marjinal1st, there you go. CLI method by cfhowlett (avconv) and a good GUI method by knob (audacity).
[12:23] <marjinal1st> iptable: Thanks, I'll give it a try
[12:23] <iptable> yes geirha cause that gets pressed often too. before scrolling left and right. thankfully I still use arrows
[12:23] <raub> mat619: I believe iptable's point is that most server maintenance work can be done rather well from command line, so no need for gui in console
[12:24] <iptable> mat619, you do regular maintenance using a local terminal?
[12:24] <iptable> mat619, so if you need a script from your desktop, you take it with you on USB stick?
[12:24] <raub> iptable: I take he uses puppet/ansible or just ssh into it
[12:24] <mat619> iptable: no, of course I don't
[12:25] <iptable> mat619, hence out network and monitoring machines have a dedicated network port for admin. it's called the administrative network every serious organisation should have.
[12:26] <iptable> mat619, in any case, if you are willing to fiddle with graphics settings on a server and are still sure you want to do it (and won't blame us if stability starts lacking - for some reason the machine chose to reduce graphics), we can help.
[12:28] <Noiro> Can someone help me with x11vnc? i'm trying to use -storepasswd but whenever I store a password and execute it, it won't authenticate under the password I entered.
[12:28] <mat619> iptable: this machine has 4 NICs, and one port is also specifically used for admin work via ssh. but as I mentioned this machine is used to debug the network, so sometimes it happens one of us has to head down into the server room, hook up a device that has to be monitored to one of the machine's other NIC ports. it then is often useful to just fire up a local terminal and check if the network settings and connection parameters are O
[12:29] <iptable> uhm, that's a very cowboy way of doing things, but ok. if you insist.
[12:29] <mat619> iptable: care to explain why?
[12:31] <iptable> mat619, well, most places I worked in have something called a management interface and built-in KVM on the machines and machine centers (like IBM bladecenter) that we used. In other cases, machines would be configured at someone's desktop and tested in a test DC (where we invested in a LAPTOP). They would only be shipped to live DC and inserted in fully operational state.
[12:31] <swizgard> does anyone know if there is a way to use the "Acquire::http::Proxy" option dynamically, so that it is used if given proxy is reachable and not if not?
[12:31] <iptable> mat619, if a machine is not fit for purpose, you turn it off, unrack it and carry back. change failed, back to lab. that's ITIL at least.
[12:31] <scatterp> hi trying to run steam on xbuntu when it reaches the login or create new account page it becomes totally frozen i.e clicking login new account exit does nothing any suggestions ?
[12:32] <iptable> scatterp, once you reach that screen, wait a few seconds, THEN try to do it. once ytou press on create new account, if network connection is slow, wait up to 2 minutes WITHOUT clicking all over the place
[12:32] <iptable> scatterp, if that doesn't help, then it's your graphics drivers most likely.
[12:34] <scatterp> iptable: fast network graphics driver is the xorg driver which works fine in older ubuntu versions
[12:34] <iptable> mat619, and no, we don't have access to DC unless we fill in paperwork, sign it, get manager approval and prove that we need to. We also cannot open racks onsite, their magnetic locks need to be unlatched from the NOC before someone can access a single rack to insert HW and press power. Inserting and configuring network gear is even more fun...
[12:35] <iptable> scatterp, did you attempt the "be patient first time round"? if not, can't help further. also, scatterp, "works fine with older ubuntu versions"? well, works fine in this one, but doesn't appear to work with steam. if using ATI or nvidia, use their driver. you need 3D for steam and it's games, you know...
[12:37] <iptable> mat619, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution
[12:37] <iptable> mat619, if that doesn't work, then the resolution is not supported by either GFX card or monitor. try a better monitor.
[12:37] <scatterp> iptable: tried waiting its nvidia tried proprietary driver same issue
[12:37] <mat619> iptable: we started using a dedicated machine for network debugging purposes after we experienced weird printer issues at our main site here which did neither occur in the lab nor the testing environment, only in the production network. so it seems logical to set up a spare machine in the server room with several NICs that act as bridges, allowing us to transparently capture the network traffic to them and compare it.
[12:37] <iptable> scatterp, that was fast... how did you install it so quick?
[12:38] <scatterp> already tried it before coming here
[12:38] <iptable> mat619, you use linux machines with 4 NICs and BRIDGE to capture traffic(?)
[12:39] <iptable> mat619, in normal worlds, we setup out network gear to do split-path packet replication and send a copy of everything to whatever machine we need to
[12:39] <iptable> scatterp, please let me know how you were installing the nvidia driver
[12:39] <scatterp> iptable: did that once for an isp on freebsd was most effective
[12:39] <scatterp> ubuntu software center > edit > sources > drivers then select it and apply reboot and test
[12:40] <iptable> scatterp, ok, that is the correct method. so xubuntu, nvidia driver, have waited 2 minutes and no, it is definitely frozen.
[12:40] <iptable> scatterp, any life from top/iotop/atop on the proceess? or totally dead/
[12:41] <scatterp> iptable: will check that now with propriatary driver and waiting just for reassurance of those issues brb
[12:41] <iptable> scatterp, cool
[12:44] <RoBo_V> guys in virtual box only 32 bit works or what?
[12:44] <RoBo_V> im seeing only 32 ubuntu option...
[12:44] <RonWhoCares> I am trying to add +x permission to a .sh , but it isn't accepting the change and there is no error.  Could it be my folder?
[12:45] <mat619> RoBo_V: do you have your CPU's VT-X enabled in the BIOS? If not, that's exactly what happens
[12:45] <iptable> RoBo_V, host OS is 32 bit or 64 bit?
[12:45] <pisto> I installed the debug symbols of a package, but to my surprise the sources aren't included. So I can set breakpoints on functions but i can't step
[12:45] <mat619> iptable: well, guess we're not within a "normal world". our MPLS network, including the onsite routers, are managed by our hosting provider. we're only granted minimal rights on the routers, so we can't setup a split-path replication.
[12:45] <iptable> RonWhoCares, in what directory?
[12:45] <pisto> and gdb tries to load the source file in a place which is clearly a chroot environment
[12:45] <RoBo_V> mat619: really i will what is that option Vt-X?
[12:45] <iptable> mat619, yup, that's definitely not the world I live in.
[12:46] <pisto> so I wonder if this is the default dumb way of working, or it is a bug in the package
[12:46] <iptable> RoBo_V, what is the host OS?
[12:46] <RoBo_V> iptable: host os is 64 and iso ubuntu is 64 too
[12:46] <iptable> RoBo_V, and virtualbox is 64 bit?
[12:46] <RoBo_V> windows 8.1
[12:46] <mat619> RoBo_V: that's a feature of the CPU that allows virtualization programs like VirtualBox to access the CPU directly. For Virtualbox to support 64 bit, you have to enable VT-X
[12:46] <iptable> RoBo_V, wait, host is windows 8.1?
[12:47] <RoBo_V> mat619: i will see it
[12:47] <RonWhoCares> iptable: /media/rpiggott/Users/Users/Ron Piggott/PHPStormLinux/PhpStorm-133.1777/bin
[12:47] <RonWhoCares> iptable the file name is phpstorm.sh
[12:47] <RoBo_V> iptable: right
[12:47] <iptable> RoBo_V, no, for virtualbox to work at all you need to have VT-x. if it managed to start, you have VT-x already
[12:47] <iptable> mat619, ^
[12:47] <mat619> iptable: that's not true for all OS's.
[12:48] <jkcso> Windows 8.1 tends to have Hyper-V enabled, even as a desktop installation. Remove the Hyper-V feature via Programs, restart, and try again.
[12:48] <iptable> mat619, for host being a linux OS of kernel 2.6+ it is absolutely true.
[12:48] <jkcso> Having Hyper-V enabled will cause VBox to not have access to the virtualization extensions.
[12:48] <scatterp> iptable: ok done steam is using between 0.3 and 1% cpu and 249296 virtual memory
[12:48] <iptable> scatterp, so it;s doing something...
[12:48] <mat619> iptable: Linux, yes. Windows? Not so much.
[12:49] <iptable> mat619, that's a BIOS and CPU feature, not windows/os
[12:49] <iptable> unless windows is so shit
[12:49] <scatterp> i suppose yeah
[12:49] <iptable> RoBo_V, what jkcso said. something is hugging some VT-x extensions.
[12:49] <iptable> scatterp, give it 5 minutes maybe? could be downloading something in the background.
[12:49] <jkcso> iptable, RoBo_V: I found that out the hard way.
[12:49] <scatterp> k
[12:50] <mat619> iptable: incorrect. research it, the windows 64 bit build of virtualbox is capable of hosting 32 bit guest systems without VT-X enabled, but no 64 bit guests.
[12:50] <iptable> scatterp, oh, wait. so my installation seems to be downloading the full version (280MB) of steam after start. could it be doing that but failing to draw the "downloading" window?
[12:50] <Valarkin_> man, i am so lost. iptable, in order to install raid on this OVH server I have to boot to "rescue mode" which is "a basic Linux/BSD system has been launched on your server through the network. This is not the system installed on your server and none of your disks have been mounted" I can ssh in to it but from there i am lost.
[12:50] <jkcso> iptable: mat619 is correct.
[12:50] <RoBo_V> jkcso: hyper v where it is ?
[12:51] <jkcso> RoBo_V: Control Panel -> Programs and Features -> Turn Windows features on or off
[12:51] <iptable> mat619, that would require windows to simulate VT-x, which is dumb. then again windows is dumb
[12:51] <scatterp> iptable: unlikely i have pretty fast internet and it did some kind of update initially before running
[12:51] <jkcso> iptable: 32 bit OSes are virt-able on 64-bit hosts without virt extensions.
[12:52] <jkcso> iptable: Only long mode - 64-bit exts - requires virt extensions.
[12:52] <iptable> scatterp, well, if 5 minutes don't unblock it, I would say try with full ubuntu to see if that works. if it does' it's xubuntu vs ubuntu issue, not your system.
[12:52] <iptable> jkcso, since when?
[12:52] <scatterp> iptable: already tried and it works in ubuntu of course
[12:52] <mat619> jkcso: correct.
[12:52] <RoBo_V> jkcso: : Hyper V is disabled
[12:52] <iptable> jkcso, you can't get to ring0 without VT-x or host OS allowing you to
[12:52] <jkcso> iptable: since ever?
[12:52] <scatterp> iptable: think theres a considerable amount of users on std ubuntu
[12:53] <jkcso> iptable: It's always been that way.
[12:53] <iptable> jkcso, uhm, no? previous solutions had to emulate the WHOLE CPU, which virtualbox might be doing in this case, which is wrong.
[12:53] <iptable> jkcso, you cannot access ring0 without VT-x or host OS cooperation (which would emulate VT-x in a way)
[12:53] <jkcso> iptable: I'm not here to argue. Fact is: 32-bit OSes can run as guests on 64-bit hosts without VT-x enabled.
[12:54] <cfhowlett> jkcso, confirmed ^^^
[12:54] <S-O-L> Hi, How can i install direct X in wine?
[12:54] <jkcso> I'm a network engineer, not a virtualization layer programmer.
[12:54] <jkcso> Aww, man. I missed out on a perfect "Dammit, Jim" moment.
[12:54] <iptable> jkcso, no, they cannot. not in a normal way using standard CPU and one of the cores/threads
[12:54] <iptable> jkcso, if you want to emulate, I can run 64 bit CPU on my ubuntu on a 32 bit installation
[12:54] <iptable> since forever
[12:55] <RoBo_V> jkcso: I have to enable Hyper V
[12:55] <RoBo_V> ?
[12:55] <iptable> scatterp, yes, I want to know if it's your xubuntu or your machine that's the reason
[12:55] <jkcso> RoBo_V: NOOOO. It has to be disabled.
[12:55] <S-O-L> i can haz halp?
[12:55] <iptable> scatterp, to figure that one out, we need to test it
[12:55] <RoBo_V> it is disabled already
[12:55] <mat619> RoBo_V: try rebooting and checking your BIOS settings regard VT-X
[12:55] <RoBo_V> OK mat619
[12:55] <jkcso> iptable: Like I said, not here to argue with you. Fact is fact. Do a bit of research.
[12:56] <[1]Az> hi whats the server channel?
[12:56] <scatterp> iptable: yeah already tested and it worked how ever the machine is low spec
[12:56] <mat619> RoBo_V: pretty sure it's disabled, most manufacturers tend to disable it by default it seems (Lenovo and HP for example)
[12:56] <iptable> I was about to say cat /proc/cpuinfo ... I forgot it's windows 8.1 :/
[12:56] <iptable> RoBo_V, yes, check BIOS, but also: boot from liveCD/liveUSB and cat /proc/cpuinfo and see if cpu features mentions vt-x
[12:56] <iptable> RoBo_V, for VT-x to work, you need BIOS and CPU support and at least minimal motherboard support
[12:57] <scatterp> iptable: about the whole 64bit debate simple solution to it is screen shot lol
[12:57] <Valarkin_> iptable: none of the raid guides seem to be covering my case
[12:57] <jkcso> RoBo_V: That much is true. VT-x has to be 1) present and 2) enabled in BIOS/EFI.
[12:57] <iptable> Valarkin_, I already covered it
[12:57] <iptable> Valarkin_, did you write down what I was writing in the 2 long blocks of text?
[12:58] <Valarkin_> I have, but in order to install raid on this OVH server I have to boot to "rescue mode" which is "a basic Linux/BSD system has been launched on your server through the network. This is not the system installed on your server and none of your disks have been mounted" I can ssh in to it but from there i am lost.
[12:58] <iptable> Valarkin_, to install, first make an ubuntu install/liveCD/USB, start from it and then start normal installer
[12:58] <Valarkin_> its a remote box
[12:58] <iptable> Valarkin_, why would you need rescue mode?
[12:58] <S-O-L> -_-