[08:39] <timonator> bbl
[08:39] <fre1> timonator: what is your network card ?
[08:40] <fre1> ok
[08:40] <h3sp4wn> cristiano: Is your keyboard english or us or ?
[08:40] <uniq> h3sp4wn: it's now localeconf, it's a separate package, download and install.
[08:40] <cristiano> is it
[08:40] <fre1> no channel for poor coder trying to verify selfsigned cert thru gnutls ? :)
[08:40] <cristiano> h3sp4wn: is italian
[08:41] <h3sp4wn> cristiano: Do as uniq says
[08:41] <h3sp4wn> uniq: Cheers
[08:41] <uniq> cristiano: 'sudo apt-get install localeconf'
[08:41] <hustla> hello .. someone who can help me with my DNS prob???
[08:41] <uniq> hustla: yes, please explain to me what the problem is.
[08:42] <roob> hustla: yea
[08:42] <hustla> i cant connect to the internet ... networkinterface is still right configured
[08:42] <cristiano> uniq: done
[08:42] <cristiano> uniq: now what to do?
[08:43] <SpAwN> hustla: check /etc/resolv.conf
[08:43] <hustla> maybe i need to set the dns server
[08:43] <SpAwN> make sure u have entried like nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:43] <uniq> cristiano: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow localeconf'
[08:43] <uniq> hustla: do you know your isp's nameservers ip addresses?
[08:43] <SpAwN> hustla: u can goto websites if u enter a ip...just not a hostname?
[08:44] <hustla> Konnte http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-updates/Release.gpg nicht holen  Temporrer Fehlschlag beim Auflsen von de.archive.ubuntu.com
[08:44] <h3sp4wn> hustla: (if you need a dns server to test with try <IP_ADDRESS> (I know I built it a few years ago its never down)
[08:44] <SpAwN> hustla: i am in eastcoast usa..but here is 2 nameservers i use
[08:44] <SpAwN> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:44] <SpAwN> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:45] <SpAwN> that way u should at least be able to google for more nameservers closer to you
[08:45] <fre1> hustla: do 'ping <IP_ADDRESS>' to see if you got answer
[08:45] <cristiano> uniq: done
[08:46] <cristiano> uniq: now?
[08:46] <hustla> i can't write to resolve.conf
[08:46] <SpAwN> sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf
[08:46] <uniq> cristiano: didn't you get the option to choose and configure locale?
[08:47] <cristiano> yep i did it so
[08:47] <h3sp4wn> hustla: Any changes you make to resolv.conf will be lost on reboot
[08:47] <cristiano> uniq: yep i had it and i chose
[08:47] <erikson> what's the ubuntu easysource URL ?
[08:47] <erikson> google does have it
[08:47] <erikson> not
[08:48] <SpAwN> hustla: i make a /etc/resolv.conf.backup ....then if they get erases i just replace the old one
[08:48] <BurnyFree> Hi
[08:48] <uniq> hustla: echo -e 'nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> \n nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>' > /etc/resolv.conf
[08:48] <hustla> [20:48]  <hustla> cant do changes with the resolvconf -a #####
[08:48] <BurnyFree> WHere can i find the libdvdcss2 file?
[08:49] <BurnyFree> i want to watch dvd and have heard that this file is required
[08:49] <fre1> hustla: maybe you should test your ip connectivity first ? :)
[08:49] <uniq> hustla: that is one command on one line. I wouldn't bother backing it up as it's a 3 line file and in it's current state it doesn't work for you. Do you use resolvconf by the way?
[08:49] <cristiano> uniq: it has updated locales but the keyboard mapping still doesn't work (for any language)
[08:49] <uniq> cristiano: console keyboard mappings?
[08:49] <cristiano> uniq: every apps key mapping
[08:49] <hugelmopf> !tell BurnyFree about libdvdcss
[08:49] <hustla> yes but it doesn't work
[08:49] <uniq> cristiano: in X?
[08:50] <h3sp4wn> hustla: to make them permanent you need to edit  /etc/dhclient.conf (if you are using dhcp)
[08:50] <cristiano> uniq: the icon in the task bar for the key map change tells me that there is an error
[08:50] <cristiano> uniq: yes in all X
[08:50] <uniq> cristiano: what is the error message?
[08:50] <hustla> no i don't want to use dhcp ... it's a static server
[08:51] <cristiano> uniq it says "error in changin keymapping"
[08:51] <Lynoure> erikson: not easysource, but easyubuntu?
[08:52] <cristiano> uniq: it looks like X is not accepting any keymap
[08:52] <uniq> cristiano: strange. works perfectly here. in system settings - regional and accessibillity - keyboard layout  do you have a list of country layouts?
[08:53] <cristiano> uniq: yes
[08:53] <cristiano> uniq: but whatever i choose it doesn't work
[08:53] <erikson> yeah thx Lynoure , found the sources list ...now what? . Do I copy and paste them into synaptic or ?
[08:54] <uniq> cristiano: is this dapper drake?
[08:54] <cristiano> uniq: yes
[08:54] <cristiano> uniq: the problem happened suddenly
[08:54] <uniq> cristiano: did you try to logout and re-login
[08:55] <cristiano> uniq: i just tried installing cedega 5.0.1 and it downloaded something related to win-fon or so and then everything was messed up
[08:55] <cristiano> uniq: yes i also restarted
[08:55] <uniq> cristiano: is this a problem for other users too?
[08:56] <uniq> cristiano: if you create a test-user, and login to kde, does this problem remain?
[08:56] <cristiano> i'll try just a mom
[08:56] <hugelmopf> !tell erikson about sources
[09:00] <danl> what is the permissions for /dev/null suppose to be?
[09:00] <uniq> danl: 666
[09:01] <uniq> danl: that's crw-rw-rw-
[09:01] <danl> ok
[09:01] <danl> thanks
[09:02] <danl> cause mine is crw-------
[09:02] <danl> i guess thats what causing my problems
[09:02] <cristiano> uniq: nothing to do :(
[09:02] <Hexidigital> anyone have problems with the KDE lock screen feature? i.e. logging back in?
[09:02] <uniq> cristiano: doesn't work there either?
[09:02] <cristiano> uniq: even in the login page accented keys (even if shifted or alted) work
[09:02] <cristiano> sry i mean didn't work
[09:03] <danl> omg, thank you so muhc uniq
[09:03] <danl> i can login now :-D
[09:04] <mikearthur> why does postfix give me a "postalias: fatal: open database /etc/aliases.db: Permission denied" I'm root!
[09:04] <cristiano> uniq: i really dunno what to do with my key mapping :(
[09:04] <MitchM> postfix runs as a specified user
[09:05] <bam_> anyone know where the right click menu items are kept.....
[09:05] <danl> like i said, thanks uniq.
[09:07] <uniq> danl: you're welcome. You might want to look at /etc/udev/permissions.d/udev.permissions and make sure the entry for /dev/null is setup correctly.
[09:08] <cristiano> uniq: i'll have a reboot now but honestly i dunno what to do :(
[09:08] <uniq> cristiano: you can set the keyboard layout in X itself. try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[09:08] <mikearthur> why does postfix give me a "postalias: fatal: open database /etc/aliases.db: Permission denied" I'm root!
[09:08] <visik7> mikearthur: you but not the user used to run postfix
[09:09] <visik7> check permiss and try again
[09:09] <doppelganger> anyone run vnc server on their machine?
[09:10] <doppelganger> (kubuntu machine)
[09:10] <doppelganger> a vnc server of any kind
[09:10] <timonator> heya
[09:10] <doppelganger> i know there's a built in one kfrb or something, but i need one that'll run as a service
[09:11] <doppelganger> so i can remotely shut down my machine and be able to log back into it
[09:11] <timonator> fre1: interesting stuff. now i was able to browse a bitz through the net, but then it froze. before that i rmmodded and then modprobed the tulip module
[09:11] <MitchM> you search apt-cache yet?
[09:11] <uniq> mikearthur: try 'sudo lsattr /etc/aliases.db'
[09:11] <timonator> next time i tried it my keyboard stopped working
[09:11] <timonator> and now it didnt have any effect at all
[09:11] <timonator> fre1: do you think buying a new (realtek!) network card would help?
[09:11] <mikearthur> uniq: the file doesn't exist, apt deletes it every time it tries to install postfix, then complains about no permisions
[09:12] <cristiano> nothing to do :(((((((((((((((((((
[09:12] <uniq> mikearthur: hah.. that's strange.
[09:12] <uniq> cristiano: no dice?
[09:12] <cristiano> uniq:  no :(
[09:12] <mikearthur> uniq: managed to fix it myself :D
[09:12] <kiwnix> doppelganger: try vnc4server ... or tightvncserver
[09:12] <cristiano> it looks like linux is not accepting key maps anymore :'(((((((
[09:12] <uniq> cristiano: what exactly was it you were installing when this broke?
[09:12] <fre1> timonator: well the fact you get it working on livecd tells a lot
[09:13] <MitchM> doppelganger: Whats run with using any VNC program and starting it from SSH?
[09:13] <timonator> get it working? that sounds like i have to do something in order to make it work
[09:13] <cristiano> uniq: i was installing cedega, is asked to install something about fonts during setup wizard, i restarted pc and suddenly i saw that accented keys (even if alted or shifted) weren't working
[09:13] <doppelganger> i'm not worried about the security
[09:13] <doppelganger> honestly
[09:14] <doppelganger> it's going through a secure enough connection, it's inside my lan
[09:14] <MitchM> doppelganger: sudo apt-get install doppelganger
[09:14] <MitchM> bah.
[09:14] <fre1> timonator: well i have to go. good luck
[09:14] <MitchM> doppelganger: sudo apt-get install vnc4server
[09:14] <doppelganger> i just need a vnc program for kde with a proven, working service mode
[09:14] <doppelganger> something i don't have to go configure a bunch of files to get working
[09:15] <MitchM> and you have tried kdrc?
[09:15] <timonator> oh noes
[09:15] <MitchM> krdc*
[09:15] <doppelganger> i've seen krdc in adept
[09:15] <uniq> cristiano: i have no more suggestions. It's very hard to help when i don't know what this magic installing stuff has done to break stuff for you.
[09:15] <doppelganger> haven't tried it, it supports service?
[09:15] <MitchM> looking now
[09:15] <doppelganger> i'll google, no worries
[09:15] <uniq> krdc is slow and not very good.
[09:16] <uniq> imho.
[09:16] <doppelganger> slowness be damned, i just need access
[09:16] <doppelganger> =)
[09:16] <MitchM> look @ sudo apt-cache search vnc
[09:16] <timonator> my aunt is going to write a flam FAX to her ISP for not supporting linux on the techsupport phone line o_O
[09:16] <doppelganger> did already
[09:16] <cristiano> uniq: i appreciated ur help though :) in the worst case tomorrow i'll be reinstalling linux again ;)
[09:16] <ninHer> why don't you try x11vnc ?
[09:16] <scott> hey, wondered if anyone could help. using the latest ati fglrx drivers, google earth (also latest version) hard locks after only a minute or two of using it, anyone have any ideas why/fixes to the problem??
[09:16] <doppelganger> i see a thousand different ones
[09:17] <doppelganger> i just wanted a good solid one that i don't have to go into text files configuring properly
[09:17] <doppelganger> for service mode, that is
[09:17] <doppelganger> everyone one i've researched you've gotta do this, do that
[09:17] <doppelganger> blah, i just need a quick working m'fer
[09:17] <MitchM> Everything takes _some_ setup.
[09:17] <doppelganger> lol
[09:17] <doppelganger> i'm fine in gui
[09:18] <ninHer> doppelganger: give it a try to x11vnc
[09:18] <doppelganger> get pissy in texts when in a hurry
[09:18] <scott> command line > gui
[09:18] <MitchM> rgr that scott
[09:18] <scott> car eto help me with my problem ;)
[09:18] <doppelganger> i'll look that up ninHer, thank you
[09:18] <scott> *care to
[09:18] <doppelganger> and kdrc
[09:18] <MitchM> whats the problem?
[09:18] <MitchM> get back to us doppelganger if you dont figure out anything
[09:18] <doppelganger> thanks guys for the suggestions, btw
[09:18] <scott> latest ati fglrx driver and goolgle earth, i get hard lockups
[09:19] <MitchM> eek.
[09:19] <MitchM> Definetly not a question for myself.
[09:19] <scott> :(
[09:19] <MitchM> ask around :-P
[09:19] <scott> it happened in previous ati drivers too, so its not just the latest
[09:19] <scott> will do ;)
[09:19] <scott> might try in #ubuntu ;)
[09:19] <MitchM> aye, good idea.
[09:19] <MitchM> You have JFGI eh?
[09:20] <ninHer> doppelganger: http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/
[09:20] <doppelganger> looks... configuring-ish
[09:20] <doppelganger> lol
[09:20] <MitchM> lolz.
[09:20] <doppelganger> well... here's my problem
[09:20] <doppelganger> i'm remoting into that machine from work, or trying to
[09:21] <MitchM> what all do you need to do?
[09:21] <MitchM> SSH should work fine.
[09:21] <doppelganger> well, i'm already remoted in as we speak, only because i started a session this morning htrough the desktop sharing app already in kubuntu
[09:21] <erikson> strange that apt-file isn't in the sources list
[09:21] <doppelganger> but...  i need to reboot the pc, and i need to make ****SURE**** i can get back in
[09:21] <MitchM> apt-get isntall ssh
[09:21] <MitchM> then ssh in and open the program
[09:22] <ninHer> no, MitchM it will not work
[09:22] <MitchM> not for GUI stuff
[09:22] <h3sp4wn> openssh-server
[09:22] <h3sp4wn> Use freenx for gui stuff
[09:22] <ninHer> ssh needs an open computer to work and i guess he means reboot the box
[09:22] <MitchM> but after the computer reboots
[09:23] <MitchM> SSH is loaded by default
[09:23] <MitchM> allowing him access again
[09:23] <doppelganger> i need to see the kubuntu (kde, whatever) desktop
[09:23] <h3sp4wn> Setup freenx before you reboot
[09:23] <ninHer> but this is not the point
[09:23] <h3sp4wn> !freenx
[09:23] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[09:23] <doppelganger> hmm, ok
[09:23] <MitchM> I second ubotu's idea.
[09:23] <h3sp4wn> If ssh is already working then freenx works over ssh so you will have no problems
[09:23] <doppelganger> if it weren't so mission critical i wouldn't be so picky right now
[09:24] <h3sp4wn> mission critical using vnc ? rofl
[09:24] <doppelganger> lol
[09:24] <ShuT-> lol
[09:24] <grizzly> Exactly which is the package for virtual desktops? and can it be replaced?
[09:24] <doppelganger> well..  i'm new to linux anyways..  i'm doing what i can
[09:24] <doppelganger> =P
[09:24] <doppelganger> i'm a wee noob, there i said it
[09:24] <timonator> noobie! noobie!
[09:25] <MitchM> use vim -- its your friend.
[09:25] <h3sp4wn> doppelganger: Well why are you responsible for mission critical stuff ?
[09:25] <MitchM> *chuckles*
[09:25] <doppelganger> well to me it's mission critical  =S
[09:25] <doppelganger> lol
[09:25] <scott> i hate vim :(
[09:25] <MitchM> aww!
[09:25] <MitchM> take it back
[09:25] <timonator> scott: go get a life!
[09:25] <scott> nano much easier ;)
[09:25] <timonator> :P
[09:25] <MitchM> no no no *shakes head*
[09:25] <scott> :P
[09:26] <MitchM> =)
[09:26] <MitchM> vim = cooler
[09:26] <scott> geekier yes ;)
[09:26] <doppelganger> !vim
[09:26] <h3sp4wn> nano is annoying if you want to go that way you should use emacs
[09:26] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[09:26] <ninHer> i love vim
[09:26] <timonator> vim == t3h l33t pwn4g3
[09:26] <MitchM> yes. see... everyone cool loves vim.
[09:26] <doppelganger> eh
[09:26] <scott> hhaha
[09:26] <MitchM> be cool; use vim.
[09:26] <scott> im not cool :(
[09:26] <MitchM> lol.
[09:26] <timonator> if things are dim, give em vim :x
[09:26] <scott> pretty hot at this moment :(
[09:26] <ninHer> so, don't use vim....
[09:27] <MitchM> we could make the new Vim sloan
[09:27] <MitchM> slogan*
[09:27] <scott> bah, no one is helping me with my google earth problem :(
[09:27] <timonator> go ahead, whats your idea?
[09:27] <MitchM> aye. Google earth is too new.
[09:27] <h3sp4wn> scott: installed it with sudo and you can not run it as a user ?
[09:27] <MitchM> may have trouble with that one
[09:27] <timonator> scott: i would like to, but i have a pretty huge problem here as well
[09:27] <scott> h3sp4wn: no, it hard locks on me :(
[09:28] <h3sp4wn> scott: Never worked once ?
[09:28] <scott> timonator: cool name
[09:28] <MitchM> I mainly run command-line server; so the graphics stuff is over my head.
[09:28] <scott> h3sp4wn: yeah it loads and works, but hard locks after a minute or two
[09:28] <timonator> scott: thanks, i thought it up when i was like 10 or so :)
[09:28] <h3sp4wn> scott: ati video card ?
[09:28] <scott> h3sp4wn: yes
[09:28] <scott> h3sp4wn: latest ati fglrx drivers
[09:28] <scott> although it hardlocked with previous drivers too
[09:29] <h3sp4wn> I reacently junked my ati and got nvidia (fed up of poor drivers)
[09:29] <timonator> \o/  @ h3sp4wn
[09:29] <scott> gonna do the same when i can afford a new mobo, processor, ram, graphics card, hard drive :(
[09:29] <Lynoure> Whatever works, work
[09:29] <scott> and case :(
[09:29] <timonator> +s
[09:30] <h3sp4wn> Ati doesn't work properly most of the time (well didn't for me)
[09:30] <Lynoure> h3sp4wn: I was born lucky :)
[09:30] <[GuS] > never works fine ati...
[09:30] <scott> caus ati on linux sucks balls
[09:30] <[GuS] > not just on linux :P
[09:31] <scott> works a damnsite better on winblows than linux tbh ;O)
[09:31] <h3sp4wn> Lynoure: I did get it working better (i.e not locking up on reboot) but had to use my own kernel - (apply the highmem.h patch to get it looking right) but the opensource drivers only lasted about 30 seconds
[09:31] <h3sp4wn> Lynoure: Probably as I have an nforce motherboard and nvidia deliberately breaks ati working with it though
[09:32] <Lynoure> h3sp4wn: For a while I wished you were talking about the hp 1022. But I guess weekend will be spend compiling and stracing away
[09:32] <scott> thinkin of ditchin k(ubuntu) for gentoo or debian
[09:33] <gatekeeper> thanx Lynoure for dpkg -l :-)
[09:33] <MitchM> scott.. never!
[09:33] <h3sp4wn> Lynoure: I have a hp laserjet 4 - works perfectly and built like a tank - I use lpd (no cups) never had any trouble had the /etc/termcap for years
[09:33] <scott> it feels a bit bloated :(
[09:33] <MitchM> Ubuntu is based off debain..
[09:33] <MitchM> aww.
[09:33] <Lynoure> gatekeeper: :)
[09:33] <scott> but with debian you get bare bones and get to choose :)
[09:33] <MitchM> well..
[09:33] <MitchM> apt-get remove
[09:33] <MitchM> or install Gnome
[09:33] <MitchM> sounds like you'd like gnome better
[09:34] <jaro> [17181019.104000]  usb 1-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 92
[09:34] <jaro> [17181030.648000]  usb 1-1: device not accepting address 92, error -110
[09:34] <jaro> whats wrong ?
[09:34] <h3sp4wn> scott: You wouldn't notice much difference - and if you were intending to use unstable you would get next to no help in #debian etc
[09:34] <Lynoure> h3sp4wn: I used to have the huge network version of hp lj 4, but it was too huge and I couldn't fit it with me when I moved. And this baby worked fine in Debian, so I was in shock when it didn't in ubuntu
[09:34] <scott> i ditched gnome for kde tbh ;)
[09:34] <jaro> it used to work before with old kernel
[09:34] <h3sp4wn> Lynoure: Mine is pretty huge but connected by a parallel port
[09:34] <scott> anyone else seen the troubleshooting guide for ati cards?
[09:34] <scott> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Troubleshooting
[09:34] <MitchM> aye. I like Kde better
[09:34] <Lynoure> h3sp4wn: But at least I know it can work in linux, and can work very easily in some cases,  which is goodness
[09:35] <MitchM> yeah...
[09:35] <MitchM> should be some support out there
[09:35] <MitchM> you google it of course?
[09:35] <gatekeeper> timonator: want to give gentoo a go, probable when the weather gets miserable
[09:35] <scott> tried, get nothing (well nothing related, they just waffle on bout google earth being released for linux :()
[09:35] <h3sp4wn> Lynoure: Try getting the latest version of cups from sid (instead of the broken version in dapper - (deb-src) and apt-get -b source
[09:35] <Lynoure> h3sp4wn: mine was, if I remember right, about 70cm x 75 cm x 30 cm. Too huge, that. Having a netwrok printer was nice, though
[09:36] <timonator> gatekeeper: heh, you mean when it gets cold? :)
[09:36] <scott> gentoo is excellent, although i triedf it at a time when i was probably too newb to full run it smoohtly, ie, i had like 1200 config files that needed updating and i didnt update a single one ;)
[09:36] <h3sp4wn> Lynoure: Mine is about that size
[09:36] <Lynoure> h3sp4wn: So far I was betting my money on getting a newer versio of hplip
[09:36] <MitchM> I tampered with linux forever because my job required... but really enjoyed the ubuntu expreince; got me hoooked.
[09:37] <gatekeeper> timonator: well summer has arrived so there is no way I going to be spending too much time with my pc when I can be soaking up the rays :-)
[09:37] <MitchM> experience*
[09:37] <timonator> o_O
[09:37] <gatekeeper> have to make the most of it
[09:37] <h3sp4wn> Lynoure: I don't know anything about printing (other than cups on dapper is pretty broken) - mine just works has for ages (You don't learn about stuff without experiencing issues I suppose)
[09:37] <timonator> how can i make apt-cache show available and installed versions of packets?
[09:37] <Lynoure> h3sp4wn: I would have tried hplip from sid but it didn't play nice with ubuntu package numbering
[09:38] <gatekeeper> h3sp4wn: there was a load of updates the other day, nothing improved?
[09:38] <timonator> or only search for installed packages?
[09:38] <scott> could my goolgle earth hardlocks be because of settings like these two in my xorg.conf? Option	    "UseInternalAGPGART" "no" and Option	    "KernelModuleParm" "agplock=0"
[09:39] <Lynoure> gatekeeper: I haven't tried since... I should
[09:39] <gatekeeper> timonator: dpkg -l
[09:39] <timonator> thanks
[09:39] <Lynoure> gatekeeper: :)
[09:39] <gatekeeper> Lynoure: gave me a few minutes ago timonator:
[09:39] <Lynoure> gatekeeper: putting it in good use, aren't you :)
[09:39] <erikson> what's the URL for Automatix pls ?
[09:39] <timonator> dpkg -i doesnt seem so search for stuff
[09:39] <gatekeeper> yep
[09:39] <timonator> hehe
[09:39] <newbie_> hi @ll
[09:39] <gatekeeper> sure am :-)
[09:40] <newbie_> can anyone help me with my dhcp problem?
[09:40] <Lynoure> newbie_: possibly, if you give details of it
[09:40] <dein> im having troubles with pitivi
[09:41] <newbie_> i wanted to install xubuntu using the install cd ... during installation dhcp failed
[09:41] <Lynoure> timonator: -i is install, what gatekeeper said was -l
[09:41] <timonator> ah, is that an l? or a big i?
[09:41] <dein> its reliant on gstreamer, and i've never gotten gstreamer to work right
[09:41] <newbie_> so i decided to install it later on
[09:41] <newbie_> but i can't get it working ..
[09:41] <Lynoure> timonator: l like Lynoure without the caps
[09:42] <timonator> ?
[09:42] <SpAwN> hello all im trying to use my 120 gig external usb driver....i pluged it in and it didnt show up in mdeia or my desktop so here is the output of dmesg...can anyone help me get it mounted? http://pastebin.ca/86341
[09:42] <Lynoure> timonator:   man dpkg   if you are confused
[09:42] <newbie_> when i use sudo ifup eth0 i get ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0
[09:42] <MitchM> pastebin /etc/network/interfaces
[09:42] <MitchM> newbie_
[09:43] <newbie_> how should i do it .. linux isn't running here
[09:43] <MitchM> so where is your linux machine?
[09:43] <Lynoure> SpAwN: What's in it at the moment? which filesystem, if any?
[09:43] <SpAwN> fat
[09:43] <timonator> can anyone help me with trying to install a newer version of the tulip driver? :o
[09:43] <SpAwN> fat32 i think
[09:44] <newbie_> my linux machine is a different machine
[09:44] <newbie_> this one is windows xp driven
[09:44] <MitchM> are you using DHCP?
[09:44] <newbie_> yes
[09:44] <SpAwN> Lynoure, b4 i just plugged it in and it showed up...was nice....but now i just need to xfer files off of it
[09:44] <MitchM> make sure that the listing for eth0 is as follows:
[09:45] <MitchM> auth eth0
[09:45] <MitchM> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[09:45] <Lynoure> SpAwN: That you can prolly handle :)
[09:45] <MitchM> auto eth0*
[09:45] <MitchM> in the file /etc/network/interfaces
[09:45] <MitchM> then do a sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[09:46] <SpAwN> Lynoure, huh?
[09:46] <Lynoure> SpAwN: That if you got it to show now, transferring files is somethin you do probably know how to do :)
[09:47] <SpAwN> i DIDNT get it to show up
[09:47] <Lynoure> SpAwN: oh sorry, I'm acronym blind
[09:47] <SpAwN> Lynoure, hehe
[09:47] <Lynoure> b4 looks like a typo to me, not like a word :)
[09:48] <SpAwN> Lynoure, dmesg shows it connecting...but i just dont know what to mount
[09:48] <Lynoure> SpAwN: So, what changes meanwhile? and what does your lsubs say when you have it plugged and on?
[09:48] <newbie_> it displays dhcpdiscover messages with different intervals (4,6,15,20,16)
[09:48] <newbie_> then it tells me "no dhcpoffers recceived. no working leases in persistent database -sleeping"
[09:48] <h3sp4wn> Lynoure: I don't think building the sid hplip - Is going to be that easy (uses -U for patch which makes it less trivial)
[09:49] <SpAwN> roob@WeEdBuNtU:~$ lsusb
[09:49] <SpAwN> Bus 005 Device 002: ID 0d49:7010 Maxtor
[09:49] <SpAwN> Bus 005 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[09:49] <SpAwN> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[09:49] <Lynoure> h3sp4wn: doesn't have to be easy, I'll settle for doable
[09:50] <Lynoure> h3sp4wn: And if I get all too frustrated about it, I'll pack my things and move back to sid.
[09:50] <h3sp4wn> Lynoure: Good idea (its not that unstable anyway)
[09:50] <Lynoure> SpAwN: ah. usb things kinda should automount, if all things are well
[09:50] <Lynoure> h3sp4wn: I have been on debian unstable since... 2000, I think
[09:50] <SpAwN> where do they mount to /media?
[09:51] <Lynoure> h3sp4wn: Hmm, no, first I lived a year dangerously on testing :)
[09:51] <h3sp4wn> Lynoure: I went down that road once (having to update to a new version of debhelper to build something)  its just a pain
[09:51] <Lynoure> h3sp4wn: wanted to see what ubuntu was all about and found out that I'm a command line kind of girl at heart
[09:52] <newbie_> MitchM ? still here?
[09:52] <SpAwN> Lynoure, i unplugged/replugged it in...it showed up...sorry to waste your time
[09:52] <Lynoure> SpAwN: yep, to /media
[09:52] <timonator> what network cards can you guys recommend
[09:52] <Lynoure> SpAwN: I wouldn't have offered it if I minded.
[09:52] <SpAwN> Lynoure,its appreciated =D
[09:53] <Lynoure> SpAwN: When I'm feeling tired/cranky/unhelpful I just keep quiet.
[09:53] <steveire> Who knows enough about users in ubuntu to answer this? >>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214356
[09:54] <scott> thats it, had enough, gonna buy an ati card this weekend :mad:
[09:54] <scott> nvidia erven
[09:54] <scott> even
[09:54] <Lynoure> steveire: I'm not competing on undescribed urls, but prolly some other people will...
[09:55] <steveire> Lynoure: I'm not sure what you mean about an undescribed URL. I want to install AMP for one user only, and not allow that user to access internet services.
[09:55] <newbie_> mitchm: do you have an idea how to overcome the issues?
[09:56] <Lynoure> steveire: lots of people point to urls. They are more interesting when the general content of them has been described.
[09:56] <doppelganger> damned compiz and kde...
[09:56] <doppelganger> ruining my konqueror
[09:56] <doppelganger> er
[09:56] <doppelganger> wait, nvm
[09:57] <steveire> ah, yes. Any idea about the user rights issue?
[09:57] <h3sp4wn> doppelganger: trying to use compiz-kde ? Is it working ?
[09:57] <doppelganger> damned compiz-kde for not working, rather
[09:57] <doppelganger> compiz-gnome under kubuntu works fine, but kills kon
[09:57] <doppelganger> obviously, i guess
[09:57] <h3sp4wn> I didn't know compiz-kde worked at all
[09:57] <doppelganger> i don't think it does
[09:57] <doppelganger> doesn't do sh*t for me
[09:58] <Desh> Hi, can someone tell me how I would exit from w3m in command line mode?
[09:58] <doppelganger> if i use the compiz-gnome instead...  is there some way to install nautilus to where it is the default for opening folders and such?
[09:58] <doppelganger> easily?
[09:59] <doppelganger> althought i f'ing hate nautilus
[09:59] <doppelganger> argh, brb, phone
[09:59] <uniq> desh: ctrl-q
[09:59] <steveire> I guess nobody knows...
[09:59] <Desh> uniq: thanks. :)
[10:00] <uniq> steveire: nobody knows what?
[10:00] <Desh> doppleganger: you should be able to right click a folder and select "Open With" and select nautilus and select is as the program to use all the times.
[10:01] <CactusWiZaRd> hello everyone
[10:01] <steveire> uniq: I wan't Apache to be available to only one user, so that I'm not running a webserver while browsing
[10:01] <Desh> doppleganger: Or, on a right click and Properties, click the little tool icon and you can set default poggies to use.
[10:01] <scott> any idea how i can black list a driver?
[10:01] <Lynoure> uniq: I have hard time figuring out the questions... sessions are easy to switcch back and forth, unless he means something else with a session. And apache user is configurable, easy to find in just about any apach howto
[10:01] <Lynoure> s/apach/apache
[10:02] <uniq> steveire: should the webserver be accessible for you only?
[10:02] <doppelganger> alright, back
[10:02] <uniq> lynoure: understand..
[10:02] <doppelganger> Desh- gotcha, thanks
[10:02] <doppelganger> i'm new to linux, my apologies
[10:02] <CactusWiZaRd> can Kubuntu be installed to an computer where's win2k already?
[10:02] <Desh> doppleganger: hope that works. :) No problem.
[10:03] <Desh> doppleganger: I'm pretty new too, what I know is from problems I've run into.
[10:03] <h3sp4wn> steveire: You could install squid only allow connections through <IP_ADDRESS> and force people to authenticate before they go online (but you will have to read how to do it yourself I haven't the time to explain every little step)
[10:03] <Lynoure> I think I'll opt for the option z, movie ,followed by sleep :)
[10:04] <steveire> So I can find some apache config file and stop the apache server from starting before any user has logged in, then start it only if the user 'testserver' logs in?
[10:04] <uniq> doppelganger: nothing to be apologize for, this channel is for those of us that need help sometimes :)
[10:04] <doppelganger> I wonder if the "system settings" panel under kubuntu is KDE specific, or kubuntu-desktop specific
[10:04] <doppelganger> i like the way it's laid out
[10:04] <CactusWiZaRd> fuck i'm losing my nerve with this Kubuntu... ;E
[10:04] <doppelganger> lol, whats wrong Cactus
[10:04] <[GuS] > ?
[10:04] <uniq> cactuswizard: what's the problem?
[10:04] <Lynoure> CactusWiZaRd: in short, yes it can, and usually quite easily.
[10:05] <ShuT-> idd :f
[10:05] <gatekeeper> CactusWiZaRd: yes you can dual boot, but you may need to shrink your partition to make room for linux
[10:05] <[GuS] > sometimes ignorance is the problem :P
[10:05] <CactusWiZaRd> uniq & doppelganger: it throws some logical block on hdc
[10:05] <uniq> steveire: sure, that's possible.
[10:05] <jaro> whats up with the new kernel ??? suddenly i Have to remove ehci_hcd to be able to use USB again ????
[10:05] <uniq> cactuswizard: is hdc your cd/dvd-drive?
[10:05] <doppelganger> (points at uniq)
[10:05] <doppelganger> hehe
[10:05] <uniq> :)
[10:06] <CactusWiZaRd> uniq: umm... yes
[10:06] <steveire> and the user 'testserver' is not allowed to access any internet services?
[10:06] <steveire> !apache
[10:06] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[10:06] <jaro> whats up with the new kernel ??? suddenly i Have to remove ehci_hcd to be able to use USB again ????
[10:06] <CactusWiZaRd> i might have to take cd drive from my older computer, 'cuz that current one sux
[10:07] <[GuS] > compiled for you guys.. wit my own Skin design for Kubuntu http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/amsn/amsn_0.96RC1-1kubuntu1_i386.deb
[10:07] <uniq> steveire: that's harder. you can give it a useless shell, or something.
[10:07] <CactusWiZaRd> it seems like an saleproduct to me
[10:07] <steveire> I'm starting to not understand
[10:07] <doppelganger> i've got one other problem plaguing me from having the perfect kubuntu install, but i'll wait a bit to ask
[10:07] <doppelganger> i feel guilty =S
[10:07] <Kr4t05> doppelganger, feel free to aks.
[10:08] <Kr4t05> ask*
[10:08] <doppelganger> it's probably insanely easy
[10:08] <uniq> then why wait? *:)
[10:08] <Kr4t05> doppelganger, it's okay.
[10:08] <CactusWiZaRd> even though the weird thing is, that Ubuntu installed successfully with the same drive few months ago
[10:08] <Kr4t05> doppelganger, everyone is a n00b at one point. ;)
[10:08] <doppelganger> i have a multimedia dell keyboard that kubuntu doesn't recognize.  It recognizes the normal keys, but not the play button ones
[10:08] <Kr4t05> !keytouch
[10:09] <doppelganger> having said that, i've made my own xmodmap.conf with all my spiffy settings to make it work
[10:09] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[10:09] <uniq> !mediakeys
[10:09] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[10:09] <uniq> !mediakeys-kde
[10:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about mediakeys-kde - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:09] <doppelganger> i just need to have it start on startup, so i don't have to type xmodmap xmodmap.conf into run everytime i start my computer
[10:09] <Lynoure> lastlog [GuS]
[10:09] <Lynoure> oops
[10:09] <CactusWiZaRd> ;F
[10:09] <[GuS] > O.o
[10:09] <gatekeeper> CactusWiZaRd: have you tried badblocks on your hard disk to see if it's ok?
[10:09] <steveire> uniq: what is a useless shell?
[10:10] <CactusWiZaRd> gatekeeper: what? O_O
[10:10] <uniq> steveire: maybe chroot the ssh account or something. so that no programs are installed and accessible.
[10:10] <Desh> If someone send me a link in Naim, how can I copy it and paste it into a diff login running w3m?
[10:10] <doppelganger> keytouch doesn't find the multimedia keys
[10:10] <CactusWiZaRd> fuck, and i already wasted a fucking DVD to it... -.-
[10:11] <[GuS] > well...
[10:11] <uniq> !language
[10:11] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:11] <TibaL> I'm not native english nor fluent, can someone tell me how are named these anti-steal transparent platic boxes used to temporary pack CD, games or memory cards packages in stores please ?*
[10:11] <doppelganger> i had to do go out and find they key mappings from some guy who had the same problem, and put them into a xmodmap.conf file
[10:11] <[GuS] > if you will "fuck" all day... for sure you will not make ytour goals..
[10:11] <Ademan>  what's the "best" java IDE? i used netbeans on windows... is there anything better for linux? or is netbeans my best bet? (its also not in the repos)
[10:11] <doppelganger> and i load that at the run command, and my volume controls on my keyboard work
[10:11] <doppelganger> but i need that at startup badly
[10:11] <TibaL> Ademan: Eclipse
[10:11] <doppelganger> er to load that xmodmap.conf
[10:12] <Desh> uniq: :( ctrl+q will not exit my w3m on a diff login.
[10:12] <CactusWiZaRd> maybe i just have to install Ubuntu once again and update to Dapper... -.-
[10:12] <gatekeeper> CactusWiZaRd: have you tried to install dapper or breezy?
[10:12] <h3sp4wn> CactusWiZaRd: Try doing a debootstrap install of dapper (using the installing from knoppix howto)
[10:12] <Ademan> TibaL: is eclipse ready for java out of the box? or do i need another package as well?
[10:13] <newbie_> ademan: eclipse is amazing
[10:13] <Desh> HOow does one exit out from w3m on CLI?
[10:13] <newbie_> it's my everyday ide
[10:14] <CactusWiZaRd> gatekeeper: like i just said, Ubuntu installed successfully with the same drive few months back, so it's pretty weird
[10:14] <newbie_> cvs already integrated, a bunch of plugins
[10:14] <Ademan> which java compiler should i use? the eclipse or gcc one? (or is there one with the java sdk)
[10:14] <steveire> No programs? I have probably explained myself very badly as usual. I currently have a separate partition with a minimal server type install and xfce so that I can run a server for testing things and browse <IP_ADDRESS>. I would like to be able to just do that in another session. so that I can ctrl-alt-f<number> back and forth. I don't want to be running a webserver that is accessible to the outside world. For one thing I don't think it's allowe
[10:14] <steveire> me anyway.
[10:14] <newbie_> sun sdk
[10:14] <TibaL> Ademan: you must need a java developer binaries... not the JRE (runtime) but the other one, usualy shipped with netbeans
[10:15] <CactusWiZaRd> and i have Breezy install & live pack, and Dapper is oncoming
[10:15] <h3sp4wn> I would use the ibm java with eclipse
[10:15] <Ademan> yeah, thats how i got it on windows
[10:15] <steveire> Actually, maybe I just need to edit the apache config files?
[10:15] <Ademan> is it in the repos?
[10:15] <Desh> How do I check my battery in command line?
[10:15] <h3sp4wn> Ademan: Don't think so (not sure though)
[10:15] <TibaL> Ademan: Sun things are not
[10:15] <gatekeeper> CactusWiZaRd: a few months ago you installed breezy no problem, now you are trying to install dapper and having problems correct?
[10:16] <steveire> I seem to remember editing ports.conf before, and it not working, which is why I made a separate partition.
[10:16] <uniq> steveire: you can restrict the webserver to <IP_ADDRESS> only.
[10:16] <CactusWiZaRd> gatekeeper: i mean Ubuntu Breezy, not Kubuntu Breezy, this is the first time i downloaded Kubuntu
[10:16] <bam_> Desh, try 'cat /proc/something'
[10:17] <Ademan> k thanks, but i found a few packages sun-java5-bin and a few others
[10:17] <uniq> desh: or 'acpi -V'
[10:17] <bam_> hehe
[10:18] <bam_> yup thats it
[10:18] <h3sp4wn> Ademan: sudo aptitude install sun-java5-bin (don't do it from adept or you won't be able to accept the licence)
[10:18] <Zoolie> hi,i just downloaded kubuntu-desktop package for my ubuntu and the boot splash screen was modded to kubuntu version but i want to use the old ubuntu version,any help?
[10:18] <Ademan> k
[10:18] <Ademan> thanks
[10:18] <h3sp4wn> Ademan: then sudo update-alternatives --config java (and select the sun java)
[10:18] <steveire> Maybe I'll try it again tomorrow.
[10:18] <Ademan> i'm switching to land line cause i'm wireless right now
[10:18] <uniq> steveire: in /etc/apache2/ports.conf: Listen <IP_ADDRESS>:80
[10:18] <frazras> my sound isnt working since the dapper dist upgrade, where do I start???
[10:19] <gatekeeper> CactusWiZaRd: this could be a hardware problem, I had a bad maxtor hdd would not install dapper, but I could get it to install breezy, then do an upgrade to dapper. Replaced the drive with a seagate, and dapper installed without any fuss, hence I suggested you test your hdd with badblocks
[10:19] <uniq> steveire: ehm.. where that ip is set to <IP_ADDRESS>:80 of course.. and not my servers IP.
[10:19] <steveire> Yes. but that caused strange behavoiur last time I tried it. I'll see tomorrow.
[10:19] <uniq> steveire: what strange behaviour?
[10:20] <steveire> It just didn't work like that. I'm tired. I'll be specific if it doesn't work tomorrow.
[10:20] <Zoolie> anyone?
[10:21] <gatekeeper> frazras: system settings -> sound would be a good start
[10:21] <uniq> steveire: ok, it works like that, in apache2, i know, i run a few apache servers.
[10:21] <uniq> zoolie: yes, what is your problem?
[10:22] <CactusWiZaRd> gatekeeper: well, i thought i'd just test Kubuntu, and decide which is better, Ubuntu or Kubuntu
[10:22] <Zoolie> hi uniq,i'am ubuntu01? you remember? i think you not,nevermind....i just downloaded kubuntu-desktop package for my ubuntu and the boot splash screen was modded to kubuntu version but i want to use the old ubuntu version,any help?
[10:23] <frazras> gatekeeper: that does not exist in kde
[10:23] <uniq> zoolie: hello again, remove the package kubuntu-artwork-usplash.
[10:23] <CactusWiZaRd> but it's not important
[10:23] <gatekeeper> CactusWiZaRd: they are siblings the only difference in the window manager, you can install KDE onto ubuntu gnome and decide which Window Mnager you want at start up
[10:23] <uniq> zoolie: it will tell you that kubuntu-desktop is also removed, but that's ok.
[10:24] <h3sp4wn> !ebuntu
[10:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about ebuntu - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:24] <Zoolie> ok....
[10:24] <BlankB> !edubuntu
[10:24] <ubotu> Edubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org
[10:25] <gatekeeper> frazras: does on mine K -> System Setting then in the top personal section 'sound and multi media'
[10:25] <doppelganger> waaahaaa
[10:25] <gatekeeper> System Setings ooops
[10:25] <doppelganger> found my answer
[10:25] <doppelganger> to the vnc thing..
[10:25] <Zoolie> uniq: if i check it for uninstall it will mark the kubuntu desktop for uninstall also,is this right?
[10:26] <h3sp4wn> BlankB: I want the enlightenment DR-17 based derivative
[10:26] <BlankB> h3sp4wn: dunno that.
[10:26] <doppelganger> didn't know about the Autostart directory, i can put krfb command in there and have it run at startup =)
[10:26] <doppelganger> *does the carolton dance*
[10:27] <gatekeeper> brb
[10:27] <Zoolie> uniq: if i check it for uninstall it will mark the kubuntu desktop for uninstall also,is this right?
[10:29] <uniq> zoolie: that is correct. But removing kubuntu-desktop won't remove anything except the meta-package (which is basically a file telling kubuntu to install a list of programs. the programs will remain on your system)
[10:30] <steveire> uniq: If i do that apache configuration trick, how would I be able to test if it is solid or not? Just ask someone to nav to the IP?
[10:30] <uniq> steveire: yes.
[10:32] <grizzly> enlightenment is mind-blowingly cool! why isn't it default or something?
[10:33] <Zoolie> ok,but if i remove this item my kde program will work after this?or i need to install kde again?
[10:33] <uniq> grizzly: because it is not very productive.. to me anyway :)
[10:33] <uniq> zoolie: everything will work. you just remove the kubuntu boot splash
[10:34] <arseniq> whatever i tried i couldnt make apache to follow symlinks
[10:34] <Zoolie> and any ohter solution? i tried to search for ubuntu-artwork-usplash to install but nothing founded.
[10:34] <h3sp4wn> grizzly: dr17 is still pre-alpha (but highly productive for me)
[10:34] <uniq> arseniq: did you try the FollowSymlinks option?
[10:34] <doppelganger> !enlightenment
[10:34] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[10:34] <arseniq> uniq: ofcourse
[10:34] <doppelganger> hmm
[10:34] <diezare> hello guys, i was trying to get the gcc compiler by writting sudo apt-get install gcc-4.0-base but it gives me the following "
[10:34] <diezare> Reading package lists... Done
[10:34] <diezare> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:34] <diezare> gcc-4.0-base is already the newest version.
[10:34] <diezare> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[10:34] <uniq> zoolie: that's the default.. xubuntu and kubuntu have their own packages..
[10:34] <diezare> eventhough it's not installed, can anyone help?
[10:34] <h3sp4wn> diezare: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:34] <uniq> diezare: install the 'build-essential' package.
[10:35] <uniq> arseniq: how doesn't it work?
[10:35] <Bazzi> diezare: you might want to have the build-essential package?
[10:35] <Bazzi> oh, too late :-)
[10:35] <arseniq> uniq: i can send you the httpd.conf file if you want
[10:35] <Zoolie> ok....and if i want some custom  splash screen is this possible?
[10:36] <arseniq> also i am restarting the apache after making changes on conf file
[10:36] <diezare> apt-get install build-essential   it gives me the following "
[10:36] <diezare> Reading package lists... Done
[10:36] <diezare> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:36] <diezare> E: Couldn't find package build-essential
[10:37] <uniq> arseniq: you can paste the section to pastebin.ca
[10:37] <uniq> zoolie: probably. Don't know.
[10:37] <diezare> i used the ubuntu before i had no problems, but i started to find these problems when i tried with the kubuntu. can anyone help?
[10:38] <diezare> i also tried apt-cache search build-essentail but i didn't find any results
[10:38] <arseniq> uniq: #pastebin.ca is this the exact name of channel?
[10:38] <diezare> does it has anything to do with my sources.list?
[10:38] <uniq> arseniq: i meant website.. http://pastebin.ca
[10:39] <uniq> diezare: probably.
[10:39] <uniq> !repo
[10:39] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:39] <BlankB> diezare: first see topic and do not paste into channel. second it soulds like your sources.list is not good.
[10:39] <BlankB> !sources
[10:39] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:39] <BlankB> !sources.list
[10:39] <diezare> ok, thnx guys.
[10:39] <Zoolie> ok,thx anyway.i give a search on google for it....and a last question: i formatted my ntfs to ext3 but i need to add(with gparted find a mount place and activate it) it after every reboot,is there anyway to make it mounted stable?
[10:40] <uniq> zoolie: yes, put a line in /etc/fstab
[10:40] <arseniq> uniq: http://pastebin.ca/86396
[10:40] <BlankB> !repositories
[10:40] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:42] <uniq> arseniq: and what happens if you go to a symlink in a webbrowser?
[10:42] <arseniq> uniq: 403 forbidden
[10:43] <Zoolie> ok,i make this...thx uniq...i love you :D
[10:43] <arseniq> uniq: by the way /home/www belongs to apache...
[10:43] <eXCeSS> can someone send me an internets
[10:44] <arseniq> uniq: and i can view the files on /home/www successfully
[10:44] <uniq> arseniq: does apache have read access to the directory you have symlinked to?
[10:44] <crazy_penguin> night to all! :)
[10:45] <arseniq> uniq: oh does it need to? ok i am trying it just now
[10:45] <JoeCoder> Any way I can make kubuntu auto-connect to the best available wireless access point w/o having to use wireless assistant as root every time?
[10:45] <arseniq> uniq: by the way the source of the symlink is a directory on my ntfs partition does it matters?
[10:45] <uniq> arseniq: it needs read access to list the files in a directory, and it needs execute permissons on directories to be able to enter them.
[10:46] <ricardo_> same problem as joecoder here with newest kernel
[10:46] <ricardo_> (have to use 2.16.15)
[10:46] <Zoolie> i just realized that in fstab i have only my cd-rom,my dvd isnt there....
[10:46] <Zoolie> :S
[10:46] <JoeCoder> I'm on 2.16.15 now
[10:46] <ricardo_> 2.6.15-23 works fine for me
[10:47] <uniq> arseniq: it all depends on permissions.. if www-data can read stuff from the ntfs-disk it doesn't matter what filesystem the files are on.
[10:47] <ricardo_> the problem appears with 24 and after...
[10:47] <ricardo_> with kernel 24 it doesnt even detect my pcmcia wireless card
[10:47] <uniq> zoolie: everything you want to automount must not be in /etc/fstab, just for your infomation.
[10:50] <doppelganger> Mother..
[10:50] <doppelganger> tell your children not to walk my way..
[10:50] <doppelganger> (sorry)
[10:51] <Zoolie> thx
[10:52] <JoeCoder> ricardo_: Mine is installed properly and works, I just have to run the wireless Assistant tool after every reboot
[10:52] <arseniq> uniq: "kdesu konqueror" sais "i cant change the permisions" i think this is about ntfs right?
[10:52] <uniq> arseniq: probably. ntfs is not very compatible with linux in any way.
[10:52] <uniq> arseniq: i have to go eat now.. and sleep later, good luck with your project. :)
[10:53] <arseniq> uniq: ok thanks a lot for your help
[10:53] <JoeCoder> arseniq: There's a tool you can get to replace the standard ntfs driver with one that supports write access, but it was flaky and slow when I tried it last fall.
[10:53] <JoeCoder> arseniq: I wish I remembered the name of it.
[10:54] <arseniq> JoeCoder: hmm some tool like it could be helpful though
[10:55] <uniq> joecoder: captive-ntfs ?
[10:55] <h3sp4wn> captive-ntfs but don't cry if you lose all your data
[10:55] <uniq> now i'm leaving.. :)
[10:55] <arseniq> oh i cant take that risk
[10:55] <JoeCoder> arseniq: If MS would release the spec to ntfs we'd all be writing to it, but as it is it's taking forever to figure it out. You can however get an ext driver for windows that will let you write to ext partitions. I've been using it for a while with no problems at all.
[10:55] <JoeCoder> yeah, it was captive ntfs
[10:55] <unix_infidel> hey guys, anyone know of a 3rd party repo that contains the postgresql 8.1 debs?
[10:55] <gatekeeper> JoeCoder: must be an updated version as Xandos reckon you van now write to ntfs
[10:56] <gatekeeper> can now write to ntfs even ooops
[10:56] <arseniq> JoeCoder: windows can see ext partitions?
[10:56] <JoeCoder> gatekeeper: stable enough to be installed by default? interesing.
[10:56] <JoeCoder> arseniq: You can get a driver to allow read and write to ext on windows. Mound your linux drive as whatever letter you want. Works great for me.
[10:57] <JoeCoder> arseniq: Again, I wish I remembered the name, but a quick search should be able to find it.
[10:57] <gatekeeper> JoeCoder: all I can suggest is you have a look on their web site
[10:57] <arseniq> JoeCoder: ok thanks
[10:57] <angasule> shiny! the shipit CD finally arrived
[10:58] <unix_infidel> anyone for the postgresql question?
[10:59] <RawSewage> how do you unignore someone in Konversation
[10:59] <JoeCoder> arseniq: I found extifs, but it looks like that's only read-only driver. If I was booted into windows I could just look in control panel.
[10:59] <JoeCoder> arseniq: and tell you the name of it.
[11:01] <arseniq> JoeCoder: thanks anyway i can find something on this idea on google i think :)
[11:01] <JoeCoder> unix_infedel: sorry, don't know much about repositories.  Enabled the universe and multiverse?  Tried finding a manual install?
[11:01] <RawSewage> How do I see my ignore list in Konversation
[11:01] <ranunculoid> If I cant be root in kubuntu, how do I edit my apt sources file?
[11:01] <danl> are there any packages similiar to automatix for application development, to get all the libs, automake, gcc and such you need?
[11:01] <JoeCoder> ranunculoid: sudo vim /etc/path/to/source
[11:02] <JoeCoder> ranunculoid type sudo before every command you need to run as root.  Sudo will ask for your password the first time and remember it until the session expires.
[11:02] <doppelganger> danl- easy ubuntu
[11:02] <ranunculoid> Is there no way of doing it outside of terminal JoeCoder?
[11:02] <hugelmopf> danl: you could start by installing the package build-essential, that covers quite a bit of application development stuff.
[11:03] <gatekeeper> ranunculoid: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:03] <doppelganger> dunno if that's what you're asking, but look that up
[11:03] <ranunculoid> Ah - that'll do
[11:03] <JoeCoder> ranunculoid: KDEmenu -> System -> adept
[11:03] <ranunculoid> Thank's JoeCoder
[11:03] <gatekeeper> ranunculoid: yes there is
[11:03] <danl> thanks hugelmopf
[11:04] <JoeCoder> ranunculoid: then go to Adpet -> Manage repositories
[11:04] <gatekeeper> k -> run command kdesu gedit (or what ever edit you are using)
[11:04] <hugelmopf> danl: but automake for example is not included. you have to install the package automake1.9 for that (and autoconf probably as well)
[11:04] <ranunculoid> Right, I can manage from here, I just installed kubuntu today. Kubuntu >> MEPIS :-D
[11:05] <JoeCoder> Anyone in here have much luck with GLX?  I've got it working but it's buggy and not worth using.
[11:06] <muslim> hello
[11:06] <Ayiden> I am having alot of trouble installing kubuntu on my laptop
[11:06] <muslim> i have aproblem
[11:06] <hugelmopf> danl: and libtool probably. which language and which framework do you want to develop in?
[11:07] <danl> c/c++
[11:07] <JoeCoder> Ayiden: go on
[11:07] <muslim> its about getting application
[11:07] <danl> im primarily a java programmer attempting to learn c/c++
[11:07] <__osh___> muslim: ask away.
[11:07] <gatekeeper> muslim: installing ?
[11:07] <danl> so i dunno that much about frameworks and such
[11:07] <muslim> any application from apt-get
[11:07] <muslim> no
[11:07] <muslim> or kaoackage
[11:08] <muslim> kpackage
[11:08] <ranunculoid> Hmmm.. I'm trying to upgrade Amarok to 1.4.x in 6.06 but it wont let me. It gives an error telling me that upgrading will break another package but it doesn't say which one... What should I do guys?
[11:08] <__osh___> muslim: why not use adept?
[11:08] <__osh___> muslim: but more to the point, what's the problem?
[11:08] <muslim> its not working either
[11:09] <__osh___> muslim: is your /etc/apt/sources.list ok?
[11:09] <muslim> all these have no access to internet
[11:09] <muslim> yes
[11:09] <hugelmopf> danl: for pure C/C++ the build-essential, automake1.9 and libtool should be enough. if you want for example to use Qt to develop graphical apps, you'll also need it's development package, i.e. libqt3-mt-dev
[11:09] <DaSkreech> I'm getting superblock errors on botoup
[11:10] <muslim> they even cant get update list
[11:10] <DaSkreech> When I try to run reiserfsck it warns me not to
[11:10] <Hawkwind> Can someone tell me a command that I can use to find out what package a certain file is in.  For example, I want to find the package that Xdamage.h  belongs to but don't know how
[11:10] <danl> hugelmopf: thanks for your help, would GTK be useful for graphical applications?
[11:11] <muslim> it worked only once
[11:11] <jpatrick> Hawkwind: dpkg -S fileName
[11:11] <muslim> then after update it stopped connecting
[11:11] <Hawkwind> jpatrick: Wouldn't that be if Xdamage.h was installed on my system ?
[11:11] <__osh___> muslim: are you behind a proxy or something like that?
[11:11] <muslim> any idea?
[11:11] <muslim> no
[11:11] <Hawkwind> jpatrick: I need to find the package it is in so I can install that package
[11:12] <hugelmopf> danl: yes, GTK is a graphical toolkit, just like Qt, but as far as i know, GTK is C, while Qt is C++, and most people prefer Qt.
[11:12] <muslim> i have DSL connection
[11:12] <nikosapi> Is there a way to force a re-install of a package with apt?
[11:12] <muslim> 256 kb
[11:12] <__osh___> muslim: What's the error if you do a "sudo aptitude update"?
[11:12] <muslim> i.ll try
[11:12] <jpatrick> Hawkwind: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=Xdamage.h&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=dapper&arch=i386
[11:13] <erov> what about qeradiant? :|
[11:13] <muslim> it stops on 0%
[11:13] <danl> hugelmopf: thanks again, im off to google and learn about QT... I appreciate the help
[11:13] <JoeCoder> Any way I can get the blinking network lights on my sys-tray that I loved so much in windows
[11:13] <muslim> without any progress
[11:14] <morrison> "Bye"
[11:14] <__osh___> muslim: use pastebin and post your sources.list there. Perhaps you'll need to use some other sources because yours are "offline" for some reason?
[11:14] <JoeCoder> danl: You might look at wxWidgets also
[11:14] <hugelmopf> danl: in case you don't know, KDE is based on Qt, while Gnome is based on GTK, so that's probably another thing to consider in the decision. you would probably want to start here for Qt: http://www.trolltech.com/products/qt
[11:14] <JoeCoder> danl: I think it's got a friendlier license for commercial projects, but my info could be out of date or downright wrong.
[11:15] <menno_> does anybody know how i can reset konqueror to it's original settings?
[11:15] <JoeCoder> menno_: I had the same problem
[11:15] <JoeCoder> menno_: did you follow that guide in the kubuntu faq?
[11:15] <Hawkwind> jpatrick: Nothing I can do from CLI to find out the info I want ??
[11:15] <DaSkreech> I'm getting superblock errors on startup
[11:16] <DaSkreech> Anyone have any clue why I'd be getting that?
[11:16] <jpatrick> Hawkwind: not that I know of
[11:16] <menno_> JoeCoder: well no and right now i aplogise and will look into them. Sorry i spoke too soon
[11:16] <hugelmopf> JoeCoder, danl: Qt is available under the GPL, so as long as your project is not distributed closed source, there is no license problem.
[11:16] <JoeCoder> menno_: don't follow the guide in the kubuntu faq, that's what messed it up for me.
[11:17] <menno_> JoeCoder: oh well then i'm glad i asked
[11:17] <JoeCoder> menno_: or rather, if you do follow that guide, first backup the files you're overwriting.
[11:17] <jeekl> What package provides libGL.so.1? It's gone missing on my system and, for example, amarok wont start without it.
[11:17] <gatekeeper> Hawkwind: libxdamage-dev ?
[11:18] <bur[n] er> what happens when you apt-get install amarok ?  doesn't it find hte depend?
[11:18] <muslim> what is the link to pastepin
[11:18] <bur[n] er> www.pastebin.com
[11:18] <morrison> a saperlo l'inglese!!!!!!
[11:18] <crimsun> jeekl: normally libgl1-mesa unless you use the proprietary Nvidia or ATI drivers
[11:18] <JoeCoder> Any good free games for linux beyond chromium and tux-racer?
[11:18] <menno_> JoeCoder: i see. did you manage to get your old konqueror back?
[11:18] <scott> enemy territory
[11:18] <DaSkreech> JoeCoder: What are you interested in?
[11:19] <JoeCoder> menno_: I was on a day-old install, so I just reinstalled again.
[11:19] <Tarus> I am having trouble using the kubuntu install dvd. I am getting this error on my compaq v2000. 4294671.220000 .. MP-Bios bug 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC
[11:19] <DaSkreech> morrison: Sorry what?
[11:19] <frazras> JoeCoder: http://entertainment.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/07/06/0414224
[11:19] <jeekl> crimsun: I had the proprietory ATI-drivers installed before, but uninstalled them, since I don't really need them and they were giving e problems.
[11:20] <Tarus> I get the same error on a friends dell
[11:20] <jeekl> IDo I need to reconfigure some package now that the ATI-drivers are gone?
[11:20] <DaSkreech> !tell JoeCoder  about games
[11:20] <Tarus> I did not get this error prior to the cd before the final release
[11:20] <menno_> JoeCoder: thanks for you remarks!
[11:21] <ranunculoid> I'm having trouble upgrading amarok, http://pastebin.ca/86428 <-- Any ideas guys??
[11:21] <Tarus> Anyone have any posible solutions?
[11:22] <Tarus> The screen goes blank after that and I hard reboot
[11:22] <Tarus> Is this a common bug at all?
[11:22] <JoeCoder> menno_: I can send you any files you might need. But first: are you trying to get back to the original settings from where you messed it up, or was it not right when you first installed it?
[11:23] <scott> !tell
[11:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about tell - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:23] <JoeCoder> Taurus:  I don't know about the error message, but I had troulbe similar to that until I started burning my ISO's at lower speeds.
[11:24] <Tarus> It couldnt be a burning problem ... could it???
[11:24] <JoeCoder> ranunculoid: This probably isn't it, but do you have the restricted repositories enabled?
[11:24] <ranunculoid> No,  I have the default settings
[11:25] <Tarus> I had this problem with this latest release the test cd before the release but the cd b4 that ran fine on my laptop
[11:25] <morrison> i am italian boy
[11:25] <morrison> but i don't speak english
[11:25] <gatekeeper> ranunculoid: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[11:25] <jeekl> crimsun: No ideas to what I need to do to get libgl1-mesa provide the file instead of fglrx
[11:26] <Tarus> I think I will try redownloading and burning again on a differnt bruner and different settings but this doesnt sound like it would be releated to that...
[11:26] <ranunculoid> Just installed today. Did an apt-get upgrade straight after installing though JoeCoder. gatekeeper - thanks but i nknow how to do that now;-)
[11:26] <gnomefreak> morrison: #kubuntu-it is for help with kubuntu in italian
[11:26] <JoeCoder> Tarus: I had that problem when installing mandriva. Burned at a lower speed and it suddenly worked. Even before, the CD's could still be read just fine from windows but refused to boot properly. Weird, eh?
[11:27] <gatekeeper> ranunculoid: ok didn't think you had them all enabled :-)
[11:27] <ranunculoid> gatekeeper: do I have to take away the'#'s from all the extra repos?
[11:27] <gatekeeper> ranunculoid: which package are you after?
[11:27] <ranunculoid> Amarok
[11:27] <ranunculoid> 1.4.x
[11:28] <JoeCoder> Taurus:  mine was a weird error message that had nothing to do with being able to read the CD also.
[11:28] <JoeCoder> ranunculoid: If you update via editing your sources.list make sure you run apt-get update after you make the changes.
[11:28] <D4m4ge> hi
[11:28] <D4m4ge> does anyone now a graphical ftp server for linux please?
[11:28] <gatekeeper> ranunculoid: yes but if you copy /paste as per those instructoions all the repos will be enabled
[11:28] <D4m4ge> i am lost with all the console like servers
[11:28] <muslim> sorry i couldn't use pastepin
[11:28] <bur[n] er> D4m4ge: there are guis for a few of them... pure-ftpd has a gui!
[11:29] <ranunculoid> gatekeeper: ok, I'll do that then try again
[11:29] <bbw> Hi all
[11:29] <bbw> someone now how to enable a kde theme
[11:29] <gatekeeper> ranunculoid: as JoeCoder says you need to do apt-get update
[11:29] <muslim> i tried but it says loading for too long
[11:30] <D4m4ge> thanbks bur[n] er
[11:30] <muslim> without any progress
[11:30] <JoeCoder> Anyone know how to get a blinking lights network activity app in my system tray?
[11:30] <ranunculoid> gatekeeper: That was the first thing I did when I installed kubuntu
[11:30] <ranunculoid> oh, sorry
[11:31] <erov> JoeCoder: what type of connection?
[11:31] <muslim> JoeCoder me too
[11:31] <JoeCoder> wireless
[11:31] <DaSkreech> Why would I get a superblock error upon reinstall?
[11:31] <erov> ok.. KWiFiManager
[11:31] <menno_> JoeCoder: i followed the FAQ and indeed, it doesn't work
[11:31] <erov> it will go into your tray
[11:31] <muslim> for me its a lan
[11:31] <erov> or at least has the option to do so.. dont know about lan
[11:31] <menno_> JoeCoder: nothing changed
[11:32] <JoeCoder> menno_: What exactly is wrong with konqueror? After I followed that guide, my address bar, view profiles, and several other things were missing. They were there by default with a fresh install of kubuntu dapper 6.06
[11:32] <muslim> Anyone know how to get a blinking lights network activity app in my system tray with lan connection
[11:32] <JoeCoder> erov: thanks
[11:33] <bbw> someone now how to enable / install  kde theme downloaded from kde-look.org but there is no installation manual, i can only change icon theme in my system
[11:34] <mcrandello> bbw: try the theme manager located in "kcontrol"
[11:35] <tomi> Hi, is there any way to get window transparency and drop shadow work with ATI display driver?
[11:35] <JoeCoder> I think I'm a tweak-a-holic
[11:35] <ranunculoid> How do I download the new package lists once I edit my sources.list file?
[11:35] <menno_> JoeCoder: i installed a theme but View>detailed list view doesn't work anymore. I see big icons and no matter what i change under View, it stays the same -  only text view does what it says
[11:36] <centyx> tomi: yea, but direct rendering will be disabled and it will run pretty slow
[11:36] <bbw> kcontrol there is no theme manager
[11:37] <JoeCoder> menno_: what about View->Icon size? Also, what if you try to load a previously saved view profile?
[11:37] <ranunculoid> YES! it's working :-D
[11:37] <mcrandello> bbw: it's not located under "Appearance & Themes"?
[11:37] <erov> muslim: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27103 read that too for lan one
[11:37] <gatekeeper> ranunculoid: dpkg -l (warning not dpkg -i)
[11:38] <erov> http://knetstats.sourceforge.net/ that looks cool too, dont know if it's in the repositories
[11:38] <bbw> mcrandello , it worked , i typt in command kcontrol , thanks
[11:38] <tomi> cetyx: yep, I've noticed. actually it will mess up my desktop pretty bad :/ I tought that there is some way to fix it but I guess there isn't then
[11:38] <JoeCoder> ranunculoid: sudo apt-get update
[11:38] <mcrandello> bbw: np :)
[11:38] <JoeCoder> How can I adjust my clock to no longer be military time?  I'm already in the Accessibility time and dates page.
[11:38] <JoeCoder> nevermind
[11:38] <ranunculoid> gatekeeper: thanks, I did it in the gui package manager instead but i'll remember that one for future reference. It's working now:-)
[11:38] <erov> JoeCoder: right click the clock it self
[11:39] <erov> Date & Time format
[11:39] <erov> from the menu that comes up
[11:39] <gatekeeper> ranunculoid: excellent :-)
[11:39] <muslim> any idea about my apt-get problem
[11:40] <JoeCoder> erov: I don't have Date & Time format on that page, but I found it elsewhere.
[11:40] <erov> then go to the Time&Dates tab.. then go to the format.. select from the list the second one.. with the p infront of the format and only one H
[11:40] <erov> i didnt say on that page
[11:40] <osh_> muslim: have you tried using other sources?
[11:40] <menno_> JoeCoder: that's it. first time i see this function. That's more to my liking:)
[11:40] <erov> i said.. on the clock of your taskbar down to the bottom
[11:40] <D4m4ge> uh, I cannot find the front-end for pure-ftpd, how is it called?
[11:40] <JoeCoder> menno_: So it was the icon size?
[11:40] <gatekeeper> muslim: you are using the correct repos?
[11:41] <menno_> JoeCoder: yes.
[11:41] <menno_> JoeCoder: my eyes don't hurt anymore, thank you
[11:42] <JoeCoder> menno_: know much about samba?
[11:42] <muslim> yes i tried another sources
[11:42] <muslim> yes
[11:42] <erov> muslim: what does /etc/apt/sources.list look like? if you dont think it looks just right.. back it up and try http://erov.ath.cx/sources.list to replace it with.. less confusion .. its what i have and works, currently
[11:43] <menno_> JoeCoder: not yet i'm afraid. i'm still in the learning stage...
[11:43] <erov> even I mucked about with it and messed my original up royally.. that's 100%
[11:43] <JoeCoder> menno_: Me too. Was hoping there might be something you could help me with. Don't suppose you know anything about glx either?
[11:43] <angasule> shipit has nice packaging, but I'm a bit surprised it's not waterproof :?
[11:44] <menno_> JoeCoder: well just don't eat too much of it:) no, sorry
[11:45] <muslim> ok i'll try
[11:46] <gatekeeper> JoeCoder: what do you want to do with samba?
[11:46] <angasule> and what about glx?
[11:46] <erov> then when you restart adept or whatever.. fetch updates
[11:46] <JoeCoder> just connect to a windows computer I have on my local network.
[11:46] <erov> to refresh the list of packages
[11:47] <JoeCoder> angasule: I have created a script to let me choose glx as an option from kdm, but it fails there. But if I load regular gde and then run the kde-glx script it works, but with a few bugs.
[11:47] <gatekeeper> JoeCoder: you only need to install samba if you want the windows pc to connect to linux otherwise just use konqueror
[11:47] <JoeCoder> agasule:  *load regular kde
[11:47] <JoeCoder> gatekeeper: smb://win-box-name ?
[11:47] <ranunculoid> What's a quick terminal command to get the version of a program?
[11:48] <JoeCoder> gatekeeper: ok, cool it worked
[11:48] <gatekeeper> JoeCoder: yes I think so
[11:48] <JoeCoder> gatekeeper: It didn't before and I assumed it was still broken. How can I access those drives from the command line? mount them?
[11:48] <jbirdAngel> hello, i have ubuntu, but im wanting to uninstall it and grub and have it set so that my comp boots right into windows again, how do i do that?
[11:48] <gatekeeper> JoeCoder: konqueor seems to have a samba client built-in
[11:48] <angasule> hmm, JoeCoder, you're talking about Xgl, aren't you?
[11:49] <erov> yes samba is builtin to konq.. at the command line use smbmount or smbclient though konqueror works just fine
[11:49] <JoeCoder> angasule: I suppose Xgl is the opengl extension for X and xgl is the linux opengl programming library?
[11:49] <gatekeeper> JoeCoder: possible not sure if you need samba installed for that
[11:50] <gatekeeper> JoeCoder: erov says you are in luck :-)
[11:50] <grizzly> Anybody using enlightenment?
[11:50] <muslim> now i am sure its not repos problem
[11:50] <h3sp4wn> grizzly: I am using dr-17
[11:50] <angasule> Xgl is an X server that uses opengl for all kinds of funky stuff, glx is an X library to use opengl
[11:50] <erov> muslim what exactly is it doing
[11:50] <JoeCoder> gatekeeper, erov, I'll read the smbclient docs
[11:50] <muslim> it should be aconnectoin problem
[11:51] <gatekeeper> grizzly: tried it using OliveCD and was impressed
[11:51] <gatekeeper> JoeCoder: there is a easy / cheat way
[11:51] <h3sp4wn> grizzly: google for easy_e17.sh (it installs it to /opt - makes sure you have 1.03 - or you won't get all the modules)
[11:51] <angasule> JoeCoder: from what I'm reading, currently Xgl only works on top of another X server
[11:51] <h3sp4wn> angasule: No xgl is its own xserver - aiglx runs ontop of xorg
[11:52] <gatekeeper> JoeCoder: if you want windows to see a linux share, install samba then use system settings -> sharing
[11:52] <angasule> well, in any case, I'd go ask at #Xgl or something
[11:53] <JoeCoder> angasule: cool, it looks like #xgl is quite a busy place.
[11:53] <muslim> it says 0% [Connecting to kubuntu.org (<IP_ADDRESS>)]  [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)]  [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com
[11:53] <JoeCoder> gatekeeper: I won't need windows to see linux, just vice versa and I already can.
[11:54] <erov> <IP_ADDRESS> ??
[11:54] <erov> yeah thats some network config problems.. just don't know what
[11:54] <gatekeeper> JoeCoder: cool :-)
[11:55] <JoeCoder> well I'm out.  Thanks for all the help.
[11:56] <gatekeeper> JoeCoder: see ya soon... :-)
[11:56] <gatekeeper> won't be far behind it's getting late
[11:56] <jimmy__> Jimmy- In da house!
[11:57] <jbirdAngel> hello, i have ubuntu, but im wanting to uninstall it and grub and have it set so that my comp boots right into windows again, how do i do that?
[11:58] <Harmental> do you know how to make this window (Konversation) transparent?
[12:02] <jimmy__> I just know how to put your own pic as background
[12:03] <Harmental> might help?
[12:03] <h3sp4wn> jbirdAngel: Try ##windows
[12:03] <jimmy__> settings
[12:03] <jimmy__> then konfigure konversation
[12:03] <Harmental> I somehow managed to do that with the terminal window but I dont recall how :o\
[12:04] <jimmy__> same here, but konversation is a little different
[12:05] <Harmental> it is an X window it should behave the same...dont they??
[12:05] <jimmy__> seems like it, but I have never even seen an option for transparency
[12:06] <Harmental> i know it is possible........darn!!!
[12:06] <jimmy__> lol
[12:06] <h3sp4wn> jbirdAngel: They will tell you about using fixmbr fixboot etc from the windows xp recovery console but I am not interested in windows related problems
[12:06] <gemidjy> damn kubuntu
[12:06] <gemidjy> if it works it is great, but if not...damn nervouse
[12:06] <Lynoure> gemidjy: hmm
[12:07] <gemidjy> Lynoure: aha
[12:07] <jimmy__> you kiss your momma with that mouth?
[12:08] <jimmy__> :)
[12:08] <Harmental> gotta go


[00:43] <akgraner> woo hoo a new team group to get involved in....yay! :-)
[07:08] <ara> morning all!


[11:04] <Nafallo> hello. I'm back on IRC, and would like my ubuntu member cloak back if possible :-)


[23:58] <bazhang> spetznaz_> and still i cant resolve my pipebomb
[23:58] <bazhang> never heard of that one