[12:14] <goblin> anyone from germany here?
[12:14] <NixHex> BluesKaj: yes, but not at a sacrafice of performance
[12:15] <cpk1> goblin: you have an ati or nvidia?
[12:15] <NixHex> BluesKaj: also use the kubuntu satanic edition KDM/splash screen
[12:15] <Schuenemann> !de | goblin
[12:15] <ubotu> goblin: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:17] <ferret_0567> I told you all that the X server would crash, and it did
[12:17] <goblin> i have nvidia...
[12:17] <ferret_0567> Let me look up the bug...
[12:18] <BluesKaj> NixHex, major graphics card , then
[12:18] <ferret_0567> btw, is there a way to make Konqueror faster for web browsing? It's slow
[12:18] <NixHex> BluesKaj: I have a Nvidia 7300 GS 256MB PCI-E x16 card
[12:18] <nosrednaekim> ferret, yes, you have to disable IPv6
[12:19] <goblin> but i don't really know how to install the drivers XD windows was really easy but i'll try to install the drivers.........
[12:19] <nosrednaekim> ther is a guide somewhere
[12:19] <ferret_0567> I don
[12:19] <ferret_0567> I don't even use IPv6
[12:20] <ferret_0567> I have IPv6 enabled though
[12:20] <ferret_0567> Heres the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/edgy/+source/xorg-server/+bug/61746
[12:20] <NixHex> BluesKaj:Though I would like to get a Nvidia Geforce 8800 GTS 320mb card...
[12:21] <ferret_0567> No Ubugtu in here...
[12:21] <Balsamic_Chicken> anyone play oblivion, got a question here
[12:21] <ferret_0567> But there you go
[12:21] <goblin> what is ubugtu? (sorry i'm an linux noob, i have linux since 2 hours)
[12:21] <ferret_0567> This is the description: Xorg exits when it receives an ACPI button/lid event, (Confirmed, High)
[12:22] <nosrednaekim> interesting... does't happen to me
[12:22] <nosrednaekim> doesn;t mean it doesn't happen though
[12:22] <ferret_0567> It's just a computer program that is in the #ubuntu+1 channel plus other Ubuntu channels, it gives you a automatic description of a Ubuntu bug report
[12:23] <ferret_0567> I don't want to use the unofficial fix posted there.
[12:24] <ferret_0567> X server does crash when it sees a certain event from acpid
[12:25] <ferret_0567> Heres the bug at freedesktop.org: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8776
[12:25] <goblin> so i must disconnect, my girlfriend is waiting for me, gn8 all
[12:26] <nosrednaekim> bye
[12:26] <nosrednaekim> enjoy linux
[12:26] <goblin> i will ;)
[12:26] <ferret_0567> Where is the option in Kopete to show only online buddies?
[12:26] <nosrednaekim> I believe it is one of the buttons on the top toolbar
[12:26] <ferret_0567> I'm happy that you got Linux working, goblin
[12:26] <ferret_0567> Oh, that did it
[12:26] <ferret_0567> Thanks
[12:27] <BluesKaj> ferret_0567, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[12:27] <ferret_0567> lol, it was right infront of my face, so close, I didn't even notice it
[12:27] <ferret_0567> Do you use KTorrent with DHT and Skype without IPv6 successfully?
[12:28] <ferret_0567> That's the only thing
[12:28] <goblin> i've just wanted to know what linux is i have this fucking windows vista but i don't like it and after the installation of Ubuntu i'll change all my systems to Linux........ i love it..........
[12:28] <nosrednaekim> I think so...
[12:29] <nosrednaekim> !language | goblin
[12:29] <ubotu> goblin: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:29] <crispim> hi
[12:29] <LeeJunFan> goblin: that language won't float around here, although we also mostly think the same about vista.
[12:30] <ferret_0567> Yeah, mostly wer think the same thing about Vista, but please, watch your language
[12:30] <Schuenemann> Vista = Viruses Intruders Spyware Trojans Adware
[12:30] <LeeJunFan> I wonder if vmware is going to release their accelerated graphics support version for linux.
[12:30] <ferret_0567> Yup
[12:30] <nosrednaekim> I hope they do... id didn't know they had that
[12:31] <LeeJunFan> I would love to be able to play Longbow2 w/o booting to XP.
[12:31] <LeeJunFan> nosrednaekim: so far just for MAC, and it's beta.
[12:31] <ferret_0567> My friend said something similar, to that effect, what Vista really meant. Look at badvista.org
[12:31] <goblin> sorry i forgot to watch for my language...........so bye
[12:31] <ferret_0567> When I said "...what Vista really meant...", I meant the name
[12:32] <ferret_0567> But, there's what evil stuff Vista has in store for you at badvista.org
[12:32] <LeeJunFan> I had to install the same piece of hardware on 2 vista machines, same driver exact same piece of hardware, worked on the e-machine, the HP choked on it.
[12:33] <ferret_0567> ha! What about Ubuntu Linux, same hardware, same driver, different machines?
[12:33] <LeeJunFan> Had to start the installer, let it unpack the files, go find the temp dir it created and told vista to look there for the driver, and it was fine. How one vista works perfect, and the other doesn't find the drive I don't know.
[12:34] <ferret_0567> Hey, a wallpaper for me and you: http://badvista.fsf.org/blog/what-vista-stands-for-as-wallpaper
[12:34] <LeeJunFan> Vista is kind of neat because it's new, other than that it's rather boring, especially compared to beryl on Linux.
[12:35] <ferret_0567> yeah, nothing really special
[12:35] <ferret_0567> And Windows Sideshow, please, you know it's going to only work with Windows, atleast for a short while.
[12:36] <LeeJunFan> It's also that new stuff that makes it so annoying, they moved so much around that things you expect to find in the old place are not there any more. And there really wasn't a reason to change much of it, except that their goal of course was to give it the illusion of being something so different.
[12:36] <Schuenemann> "Requires Windows 98 or better" --> So I installed Linux
[12:36] <ferret_0567> But, seriously, Linux needs something like Quartz Extreme
[12:36] <LeeJunFan> It's more like a car where all the dashboard controls are now in the trunk, you have to get out and go look in the trunk to turn on the windshield wipers.
[12:36] <ferret_0567> lol
[12:36] <hatta> why?
[12:36] <hatta> linux has more than enough gui toolkits
[12:37] <LeeJunFan> No, what linux really has more than enough of is package managers.
[12:37] <hatta> and text editors
[12:37] <nosrednaekim> and flame fests...
[12:37] <hatta> well actually, you can never have too many text editors
[12:37] <Schuenemann> and clever text editors
[12:38] <Schuenemann> not stupid notepad and wordpad
[12:38] <hatta> yeah, but I don't like my editor to be more clever than me
[12:38] <hatta> that's why I use vim and not emacs
[12:38] <Schuenemann> that's why you have a lot
[12:38] <tarnold> i just use kate
[12:38] <tarnold> whats the diff?
[12:38] <nosrednaekim> me too... kate rocks
[12:38] <Schuenemann> syntax highlighting is nice
[12:38] <Schuenemann> sometimes I don't want to load a full IDE just to see a program file
[12:38] <nosrednaekim> *flamewar is about to begin*
[12:39] <ferret_0567> And, Vista has so many new features, and you can't remove whatever you want, and have only the features that M$ allows you to have for your particular Edition of Vista, so, Vista just makes your computer slow
[12:39] <tarnold> so what is teh diff between kate and OO.owriter
[12:39] <Schuenemann> is that new?  You have to go to the store to get it, use get familiar with tools to install it, and then it doesn't perform as well as the windows gfx drivers. hehe.
[12:40] <reldruh> tarnold: OO.o also doesn't integrate very well with kde. You might look into kword instead of OO.o. They have a lot of the same functionality
[12:41] <nosrednaekim> no...in my experience, kword doesn't not handle .docs very well at all
[12:41] <jarn> reldruh: Can kword open Word files like OO.o can? I really do not like OO.o but I've been using it for that.
[12:41] <nosrednaekim> but its getting beter
[12:41] <LeeJunFan> does kword save to .doc yet?
[12:41] <nosrednaekim> no...
[12:41] <hatta> abiword is nice
[12:41] <jarn> Then it's OO.o for me.
[12:41] <nosrednaekim> yeah..I don't like OO very much either
[12:42] <hatta> if you need interoperability with word try abiword
[12:42] <hatta> otherwise use LaTeX
[12:42] <reldruh> kword on my system gives me the option to save as a microsoft word document, and explicitly says that the extension is .doc...
[12:42] <hatta> that's what I do at least
[12:42] <tarnold> earlier i opened kate cos it was quicker to laod but then i copied the text to writer so i could save as windows to take it to school
[12:42] <nosrednaekim> it does?what version are you using?
[12:42] <reldruh> I've never used it like that before so I can't speak to how good it is but the option very much appears to be there
[12:42] <reldruh> 1.6.2, the newest one
[12:42] <reldruh> just released a few weeks ago, I thnk
[12:43] <nosrednaekim> right..I'm still stuck in 1.5
[12:43] <nosrednaekim> is 1.6 in the repos yet?
[12:43] <reldruh> nosrednaekim: upgrade? It's just a matter of adding one line to sources.list
[12:43] <reldruh> nosrednaekim: no, you have add a specific repo for it
[12:43] <nosrednaekim> oh..ok...
[12:43] <nosrednaekim>  its that the kde one?
[12:44] <Schuenemann> how do I upgrade to KDE 3.5.6?
[12:44] <nosrednaekim> I'll check into it
[12:44] <nosrednaekim> the MOTD says its in the repos
[12:44] <reldruh> nosrednaekim: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/koffice-162 edgy main
[12:44] <nosrednaekim> thanks...
[12:44] <LeeJunFan> or upgrade to feisty :)
[12:44] <nosrednaekim> not yet!!
[12:44] <LeeJunFan> bah, woos.
[12:44] <tarnold> who uses the kontact suite or anyother organizer? i need to get way more organized
[12:44] <nosrednaekim> I used it
[12:45] <reldruh> Schuenemann: add the line deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-256 edgy main to your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[12:45] <nosrednaekim> its pretty sweet especially with Kmail integration
[12:45] <reldruh> tarnold: I use it
[12:45] <reldruh> and yeah, kmail is great
[12:45] <Schuenemann> reldruh, what is the 256?
[12:45] <jarn> I like to add lists for specific programs in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[12:45] <tarnold> cos i have yahoo mail
[12:45] <jarn> That way I can maintain the base list.
[12:45] <reldruh> Schuenemann: sorry, that should have been 356
[12:45] <reldruh> Schuenemann: as in 3.5.6
[12:46] <Schuenemann> hmmm no xx.ubuntu.com ... ?
[12:46] <reldruh> Schuenemann: no, that's the right line. It's at kubuntu.org
[12:46] <Schuenemann> thx
[12:47] <reldruh> I _hate_ the error messages that make spits out. Sometimes I think they don't even count as error messages they're so useless
[12:48] <LeeJunFan> reldruh: actually it's probably gcc spitting those out, make doesn't really do much by itself except call other programs.
[12:48] <LeeJunFan> or libtool
[12:48] <reldruh> LeeJunFan: whatever is spitting them out has the brunt of my ire directed at it right now. it's very frustrating
[12:49] <reldruh> I really don't have any idea what stopped my build
[12:49] <ramzG> hi all
[12:49] <LeeJunFan> reldruh: it can be confusing. Compiling really isn't fun for people who don't know the language they are compiling, and/or how the compiler works.
[12:51] <reldruh> LeeJunFan: it certainly doesn't help
[12:51] <ferret_0567> Does Konqueror have a DNS cache?
[12:51] <LeeJunFan> reldruh: what are you compiling? if you pastebin the output I can try to see what's messing it up.
[12:51] <ferret_0567> Some website said it didn't, but that may be an old page, for an old Konqueror
[12:51] <reldruh> LeeJunFan: I'm building kdebase for kde4. It got to 2% before stopping
[12:52] <LeeJunFan> reldruh: ugh, are you a developer? I wouldn't want to get into kde4 yet.
[12:53] <nosrednaekim> haha besides kde4 doesn't even use make.. it uses Cmake
[12:53] <LeeJunFan> nosrednaekim: doh, that's right.
[12:53] <reldruh> LeeJunFan: a very new and inexperienced one. I'm a computer science student and want to help out with the pim stuff for kde4, so I'm building it
[12:53] <ferret_0567> I'm going to reboot because I'm disabling IPv6, k?
[12:53] <nosrednaekim> well..ok
[12:53] <ferret_0567> I'll be rebooting in a few min.
[12:53] <excelsior|afk> I got a problem earlier in the evening, my kernel froze. I suppose that was skype which make me froze, but i'm unsure if it's possible
[12:53] <excelsior|afk> someone know something about that ?
[12:53] <LeeJunFan> reldruh: you should be able to do what you need if you isntall the kde4 packages Riddell has on kubuntu.org, with the dev packages, or better yet use his src packages to build from.
[12:54] <reldruh> nosrednaekim: it's true that it uses cmake to build, but that doesn't mean that make and make install don't have to be run
[12:54] <nosrednaekim> yeah I know... but its alot more different
[12:54] <nosrednaekim> excelcior: it has to do with skype and sound
[12:54] <ferret_0567> Well...ath_pci caused a freeze for me, all I had to do was move the wireless card to the bottom PCMCIA Cardbus slot, and unplug the card at night
[12:55] <excelsior|afk> nosrednaekim: any hint to avoit that freeze ?
[12:55] <excelsior|afk> *avoid
[12:55] <reldruh> LeeJunFan: I've tried those and had some issues with them. And I wanted to learn a bit more abou kde4 so I'm trying it on my own
[12:55] <reldruh> LeeJunFan: do you still want to look at my output?
[12:55] <ferret_0567> I had a soft-lockup, that was the exact type of freeze. I waited, and then it cleared itself up, but for only that one time
[12:55] <Kr4t05> Hey, I tried to manually install Java from Sun's website, and I now want to remove it and reinstall it via apt, how do I completely remove the Java I installed before? Delete the directory?
[12:55] <nosrednaekim> excelcior, how long did you let it sit before hard powering off?
[12:56] <ferret_0567> I'm rebooting now
[12:56] <excelsior|afk> err, maybe 5 minutes
[12:56] <LeeJunFan> reldruh: probably wouldn't help much, I'm pretty know-nothing when it comes to C++, I'm much more comfortable with C.
[12:56] <excelsior|afk> I don't know exactly
[12:56] <ferret_0567> I had to wait about 5 min.
[12:56] <ferret_0567> I would let it go for longer
[12:56] <LeeJunFan> reldruh: I gotta run out for a bit anyway.
[12:56] <ferret_0567> bye
[12:56] <reldruh> LeeJunFan: all right, thanks anyway
[12:56] <ferret_0567> bye for now
[12:56] <ferret_0567> rebooting...
[12:56] <Zaphar_work> K3B burns DVD's at a max of 1.6x estimated speed even with 8x media on a drive capable of 16x dvd recording. Is this normal? It also bogs down the system.
[12:57] <ferret_0567> Definetly not
[12:58] <nosrednaekim> excelcior: it freezes everytime someone trys to message me on skype
[12:58] <coreymon77> Zaphar_work: that shouldnt happen
[12:58] <nosrednaekim> but only for a minute at most
[12:58] <Zaphar_work> coreymon77: is there something I can check to track down the problem?
[12:58] <looris> i'm using kubuntu edgy, and, well, konsole background transparency does not work. Transparency works in menus and in title bars, so it's not a driver problem. What could i do?
[12:58] <coreymon77> Zaphar_work: i dont really know, all i know is that is not normal
[12:58] <Zaphar_work> hrmmm
[12:59] <excelsior|afk> I'm sure it was longer for me. I spent some time to find a sata wire to plug my new hard drive
[12:59] <nosrednaekim> ok...
[12:59] <nosrednaekim> well have you had any problems with it since?
[12:59] <coreymon77> looris: what happens
[12:59] <coreymon77> ?
[01:00] <levy> I've installed Kubuntu but i did'n find the us international driver for the keyboard
[01:00] <excelsior|afk> not until that time, I even has been called and it worked well
[01:01] <excelsior|afk> *have
[01:01] <looris> coreymon77: if i select a transparent theme, it is simply white on black, with no tint
[01:01] <Zaphar_work> coreymon77: has anyone else reported this problem? I can't find anything on launchpad or google about it
[01:01] <nosrednaekim> ok..wel then don't worry about it
[01:01] <Kr4t05> Does anyone know how to remove Java when installed manually?
[01:01] <Schuenemann> reldruh, says signatures couldn't be verified
[01:01] <Zaphar_work> and system logs are reporting anything that looks related
[01:01] <excelsior|afk> I worry that it could produce again
[01:01] <Zaphar_work> aren't*
[01:01] <Schuenemann> Kr4t05, remove the installation directory
[01:01] <reldruh> Schuenemann: that's OK, tell it to keep going (that's what I did anyway)
[01:02] <Kr4t05> Schuenemann: That's it? No references I need to remove?
[01:02] <coreymon77> Zaphar_work: i dont really know
[01:02] <excelsior|afk> -produce+happen
[01:02] <Schuenemann> Kr4t05, what did you change?
[01:02] <coreymon77> looris: have you tried all the different transparent schemes?
[01:02] <Zaphar_work> hrmmm I wonder if there is a k3b channel :-)
[01:02] <nosrednaekim> I'm sure there is
[01:02] <coreymon77> ill check
[01:03] <Zaphar_work> yep there is
[01:03] <Kr4t05> Schuenemann: I made simlinks in my PATH to the binarys in my installation folder, that's it.
[01:03] <Schuenemann> Kr4t05, I guess only the directory, environment variables (if you set) and maybe update-alternatives entries
[01:03] <Zaphar_work> but it looks pretty much empty no help there
[01:03] <Schuenemann> why did you install it manually?
[01:03] <Kr4t05> S
[01:04] <Kr4t05> Schuenemann: I was trying to patch Java 6 manually, so I could run Java apps in Beryl.
[01:04] <Schuenemann> is it JDK or JRE?
[01:04] <Kr4t05> JRE
[01:04] <Schuenemann> you can install java 6 from the repositories
[01:04] <Kr4t05> Eh, don't worry about that, I gave up and decided to use drop Frostwire in favor of Phex.
[01:04] <Schuenemann> well, remove the directory and the links, then
[01:04] <Kr4t05> That's most of the reason why I was attempting it.
[01:04] <ramzG> getting troubles with kubuntu and sonyericsson z710 - i cant use it as modem through USB ((
[01:05] <ramzG> can anybody help?
[01:05] <HaSH> !eol
[01:05] <ubotu> End-Of-Life is the time when security updates for an Ubuntu release stop. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/LifeCycle
[01:05] <Kr4t05> ramzG: Did you install bitpim?
[01:05] <looris> coreymon77: i had tried them all, now i've noticd you can edit them, and looks like they are simply badly configured: they are configured not to be transparent at all!! and if i try to edit them to enable transparency, that option is ignored
[01:05] <ramzG> Kr4t05: what is it? i'm newbee to linux ))) i use macos for 7 years - its very simple ((
[01:06] <Kr4t05> ubotu: info bitpim > ra
[01:06] <Kr4t05> ubotu: info bitpim > ramzG
[01:06] <Kr4t05> Eh...
[01:06] <coreymon77> looris: ask somebody else, i realy do not know
[01:06] <looris> what a pity
[01:07] <looris> well if somebody else knows what's happening, please let me know : )
[01:07] <ramzG> Kr4t05: its not CDMA, it's GSM phone %/
[01:07] <Kr4t05> Hrm...
[01:07] <Schuenemann> reldruh, 80 MB download... I hope you know what you told me to do :D
[01:07] <reldruh> Schuenemann: you're not on dialup are you?
[01:07] <Kr4t05> ramzG: Did you check the forums?  I get 200 max
[01:08] <Schuenemann> but I was talk about the changes that will make
[01:08] <Schuenemann> hopefully it won't mess everything
[01:08] <reldruh> oh, trust me it's worth it
[01:08] <LaNCeloT_RW> hi ppl..  how do I install a .ktheme file ?
[01:08] <LaNCeloT_RW> i found a cool theme and want to install ir
[01:08] <ferret_0567> IPv6 seems disabled after doing that "Disable IPv6" guide, except:
[01:08] <ferret_0567> travis@ubuntulaptop:~$ ip a | grep inet6
[01:08] <ferret_0567> inet6 ::1/128 scope host
[01:08] <ferret_0567> inet6 fe80::213:46ff:fea0:1d77/64 scope link
[01:08] <LaNCeloT_RW> it*
[01:08] <Schuenemann> reldruh, no, 600 Kbps...
[01:09] <Schuenemann> reldruh, I get a max of 60 KBps
[01:09] <reldruh> mmm
[01:09] <reldruh> I see
[01:09] <reldruh> it's worth it, I promise
[01:09] <Schuenemann> hehe
[01:09] <ferret_0567> ath0 has that inet6 addr...
[01:10] <ferret_0567> Hmm.,..as to why the DNS resolving process is still faster, I dunno
[01:10] <ramzG> Kr4t05: afaik the trouble is that kubuntu cant see GSM modem through USB....
[01:10] <ferret_0567> There shouldn't be IPv6 addresses at all, I rebooted
[01:10] <Schuenemann> reldruh, how fast is yours? how many Mbps?
[01:10] <ferret_0567> Is that really still OK?
[01:11] <Kr4t05> ramzG: Hrm... I hate to drop you like this, but I can't seem to find anything out.
[01:11] <Joshooa> Hey, I have a Kubuntu DVD iso image, and when I go into K3b to burn it, it recognizes it as an ISO, but when I want to burn it, it says it's not a valid ISO Image
[01:13] <looris> oh, well, after the update and a restart it worked, maybe it was a bug that has been corrected
[01:13] <LaNCeloT_RW> hi ppl..  how do I install a .ktheme file ?
[01:13] <LaNCeloT_RW> i found a cool theme and want to install it
[01:14] <nosrednaekim> "alt+f2" enter kcontrol and go to apearnaces and thems, then go to theme manager
[01:14] <nosrednaekim> ^^^for lancelot
[01:14] <Joshooa> Anyway I can check to see if the iso image is valid? I've burnt it before and it didn't give me the error, it just failed burning it
[01:14] <Schuenemann> LaNCeloT_RW, which theme is it?
[01:15] <LaNCeloT_RW> Schuenemann, http://www.skinbase.org/rate.php?skins=4643
[01:15] <ferret_0567> How do I tell the atheros modules that I don't want IPv6 on it's interfaces?
[01:16] <Schuenemann> seems cool
[01:16] <LaNCeloT_RW> nosrednaekim, which is the extension of accepted themes by Kde?
[01:16] <LaNCeloT_RW> Schuenemann, yes... and I'd like to install it :-)
[01:16] <nosrednaekim> kthem I think
[01:16] <nosrednaekim> *.ktheme
[01:17] <LeeJunFan> ferret_0567: it shouldn't hurt to leave ipv6 on, I've never had to disable it on about the 100 kubuntu installs I've done.
[01:17] <nosrednaekim> makes konqueror slow though
[01:17] <nosrednaekim> I think there is a fix just for konqueror though
[01:17] <ferret_0567> It makes Konqueror slow, and I said that I didn't want it in /etc/modprobe.d/bad_list
[01:18] <ferret_0567> It should NOT be on
[01:18] <nosrednaekim> I just use firefox... problem fixed
[01:18] <ferret_0567> I explictily stated that
[01:18] <LeeJunFan> ferret_0567: yeah, you're right if it's off in modules it should be off systemwide.
[01:18] <ferret_0567> I know
[01:18] <ferret_0567> I changed it through there
[01:20] <ferret_0567> With this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[01:20] <nosrednaekim> well is webbrowsing any faster now?
[01:20] <ferret_0567> I think so...
[01:20] <ferret_0567> I think I should test more
[01:20] <nosrednaekim> well then don't worry about it because you may want IPv6 sometime in the futoure
[01:20] <ferret_0567> Uh, no, it's not
[01:21] <ferret_0567> It's not faster on Google, amazingly, it's faster on other sites
[01:21] <ferret_0567> Some other sites
[01:21] <ferret_0567> like albinoblacksheep
[01:21] <ramzG> got it
[01:21] <nosrednaekim> well maybe google is using Ipv6?
[01:23] <LaNCeloT_RW> nosrednaekim, the extension of themes are .kth
[01:23] <LaNCeloT_RW> =)
[01:23] <ferret_0567> I don't know what to make of it, that change might actually impact stability since the Atheros drivers *want* IPv6
[01:23] <nosrednaekim> ok...
[01:23] <nosrednaekim> oh... you got atheros working?
[01:24] <nosrednaekim> congrats!!  Edgy??
[01:33] <LaNCeloT_RW> Schuenemann, the theme i showed you? or .kth theme files?
[01:33] <eigentard> edgy
[01:33] <Schuenemann> that one
[01:33] <dsmith> ahhh 6.10, make sure its updatd them
[01:33] <eigentard> how can I make it so that I can view my NTFS partitions on linux?
[01:33] <dsmith> ..updated then
[01:33] <dsmith> hmmmmm
[01:33] <dsmith> anyone?
[01:33] <Schuenemann> wasn't it automatically mounted?
[01:34] <Schuenemann> go to /media
[01:34] <BluesKaj> i have a  friend who installed ubuntu edgy , but wants to install KDE ..."sudo apt-get install kde" ?
[01:34] <LaNCeloT_RW> Schuenemann, man, i couldnt install that... because it has a .ktheme file and I dont know how to install it
[01:34] <dsmith> BluesKaj yes
[01:34] <BluesKaj> ok , just wanna make sure
[01:34] <dsmith> you still will have ubuntu though
[01:34] <dsmith> you pick it when you first login
[01:35] <dsmith> just install kubuntu fresh
[01:35] <dell190_> i need to use a sudo command to mount mine
[01:35] <LaNCeloT_RW> actually, i'd like to install a 3D window manager... like beryl
[01:35] <nosrednaekim> BlueKaj... might be better to do "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[01:35] <LaNCeloT_RW> but i could install it.. =/
[01:35] <Schuenemann> I upgraded to KDE 3.5.6, what happens to the KDE 3.5.5 packages I had?
[01:35] <nosrednaekim> lancelot: go to the ubuntu-effects channel for help with beryl
[01:35] <LaNCeloT_RW> my Kubuntu is 64 Bits.. and I didnt found the correct packages
[01:36] <LaNCeloT_RW> nosrednaekim, i'll try
[01:36] <dsmith> BlueKaj: Sorry, nosrednaekim is correct I was wrong
[01:36] <dsmith> :)
[01:36] <Schuenemann> brb
[01:36] <LaNCeloT_RW> ok
[01:37] <ferret_0567> When you install kubuntu-desktop, make sure not to install kubuntu-artwork-usplash
[01:37] <dsmith> uspash?
[01:37] <dsmith> why
[01:37] <Daniwan> Anyone in here a coder of kubuntu?
[01:37] <ferret_0567> That's if you were previously using Ubuntu or Kubuntu
[01:37] <dsmith> oh ok
[01:39] <ferret_0567> Because dsmith, if you install it, you will have Xubuntu/Ubuntu splash on startup, and Kubuntu splash on shutdown, or vice versa or other weird behavior.
[01:39] <c0nv1ct> lol wtf, stupid nickserv says someone else owns this nick
[01:39] <ferret_0567> If you want Kubuntu usplash, uninstall the other one.
[01:40] <ferret_0567> I have Ubuntu's with most of kubuntu-desktop installed
[01:40] <nosrednaekim> I did not have that probelm when I installed ubuntu-desktop
[01:40] <BluesKaj> ok , thx , i corrected my advice to my friend as well
[01:40] <nosrednaekim> I just told it to use Kdm
[01:41] <ferret_0567> I don't have KDM, either, since KDE is fully compatible with GDM
[01:41] <nosrednaekim> oh...ok
[01:42] <ferret_0567> If you want, you can use kdm
[01:42] <ferret_0567> If you want both GNOME and KDE, then gdm
[01:42] <ferret_0567> In other words, just use GDM for all desktop enviroments because it's very compatibile :D
[01:43] <neoncode> Is it possible to Virtulise a copy of Win98 useing Linux?
[01:43] <ferret_0567> Yes
[01:43] <neoncode> Good
[01:43] <nosrednaekim> ok, I use, Kdm with gnome...nothing breaks...
[01:43] <ferret_0567> VMWare, QEmu, Bochs, etc. VMWare is best.
[01:43] <ferret_0567> ok then
[01:44] <neoncode> ferret_0567: Thanks
[01:44] <nosrednaekim> unless you have a CPU with virtualization support in which case qemu with KVM is best
[01:44] <neoncode> Didn't Fiesty have some kind of Virtulisation built in? And what about Xen?
[01:44] <nosrednaekim> fiesty has KVM, with Qemu as a frontend
[01:44] <ferret_0567> Or Xen with CPU wirh virtualization support is also good
[01:45] <nosrednaekim> yeah..I heard that Xen got that too
[01:45] <ferret_0567> I would try KVM
[01:45] <ferret_0567> Xen is a different Linux kernel with Xen hypervisor = different kernel modules needed, like for NVIDIA graphics
[01:45] <neoncode> RIght. And The Core 2 Duo chips have virulisation support right?
[01:46] <nosrednaekim> as well as the AMD turion X2s
[01:46] <nosrednaekim> and AM2 desktop chips
[01:46] <nosrednaekim> I have a turion X2
[01:46] <neoncode> Ok, thanks. I don't actualy have a core 2 right now but should be getting one soon so I'll try it then. Thank you everyone. =3
[01:47] <nosrednaekim> NP
[01:47] <Fizzbane> When I boot my windows i get an error NTLDR missing. to my knowledge that is the windows boot loader. How do I put NTLDR onto my windows hd without changing anything on my linux hd?
[01:49] <jarn> Uhh... In konqueror, it apparently is "unable to start the cookie handler service"
[01:50] <Schuenemann> after I install KDE 3.5.6, what happens to all the KDE 3.5.5 packages? do I have to remove them?
[01:50] <ferret_0567> Most likely, I believe
[01:50] <ferret_0567> 3.5.6 is just a security update, right?
[01:51] <ferret_0567> If so, you don't need it
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> no there are some new features
[01:51] <Schuenemann> security? I guess not
[01:51] <looris> mmmh i'm trying to set transparent windows, but it doesn't seem to work: they are simply not transparent at all
[01:51] <flaccid> !hotkeys
[01:51] <ubotu> hotkeys: A hotkeys daemon for your Internet/multimedia keyboard in X. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS> (edgy), package size 141 kB, installed size 384 kB
[01:51] <ferret_0567> You need AIGLX, and NVIDIA
[01:52] <looris> is it possible to do that, or not?
[01:52] <nosrednaekim> in kde? you need to composite extention in the xorg
[01:52] <ferret_0567> Yes, on NVIDIA with Ubuntu 6.10
[01:52] <Number2> How do I set directory permissions on a folder that I create, I want to make a folder and have it readable and writeable by the user group
[01:52] <ferret_0567> You need to get a upgraded NVIDIA driver, and enable AIGLX
[01:52] <looris> oh, so it won't work with an ati? :/
[01:53] <ferret_0567> I don't think so
[01:53] <looris> what a pity
[01:53] <ferret_0567> It depends on the graphics card model and driver
[01:53] <nosrednaekim> looris, you'll need XGL to do trnasparency with ATI
[01:53] <mjunx> well, doesn't the open source radeon driver work with composite? for the cards it supports 3d with?
[01:53] <ferret_0567> There are two possible drivers for ATI and NVIDIA on Linux
[01:53] <Number2> How do I set directory permissions on a folder that I create, I want to make a folder and have it readable and writeable by the user group
[01:54] <ferret_0567> I dunno
[01:54] <ferret_0567> Never used ATI
[01:54] <looris> ooh. well it's a very old card in a laptop, a ati rage mobility m3....
[01:54] <nosrednaekim> mjunx: yes it does
[01:54] <ferret_0567> ok, will it work guys?
[01:54] <ferret_0567> I dunno
[01:54] <nosrednaekim> #2: right click on it konqueror, properties, permissions
[01:54] <looris> well, so i'll try to install xserver-xgl and see what happens?
[01:54] <nosrednaekim> rage mobility? my rage 128 worked
[01:55] <flaccid> dang hotkeys rox
[01:55] <nosrednaekim> its a bit harder than that
[01:55] <ferret_0567> And XGL has problems
[01:55] <mjunx> looris, are you using edgy?
[01:55] <looris> mjunx: yes
[01:55] <mjunx> then I thought you could just use stock xserver-xorg since that has composite
[01:55] <ferret_0567> XGL is just to see that cube spin. AIGLX is that for when you actually want to USE your computer.
[01:55] <nosrednaekim> no...thats not correct
[01:56] <mjunx> compiz and beryl are the cube spin things, ferret
[01:56] <looris> mjunx: oh, so... i'm afraid i don't know what "composite" is, but i'll try to find out
[01:56] <ferret_0567> With some apps, XGL is not compatible
[01:56] <mjunx> xgl was originally a composite-enabled xserver
[01:56] <ferret_0567> I know that mjunx
[01:56] <mjunx> but xorg has its own composite thing now, right?
[01:56] <ferret_0567> It's that XGL itself does not support some apps
[01:56] <ferret_0567> Like Audacious, I've hear
[01:56] <ferret_0567> ...I've heard
[01:56] <mjunx> right, so you can try using xorg's
[01:57] <ferret_0567> AIGLX works fine
[01:57] <nosrednaekim> looris, you might try looking up a totorial on getting composite in atis
[01:57] <nosrednaekim> *ATI's
[01:57] <ferret_0567> ...with Audacious and otherds
[01:57] <ferret_0567> others*
[01:58] <ferret_0567> I've used AIGLX before,  and I have the latest NVIDIA driver compatible with my card
[01:58] <looris> nosrednaekim: well i'm searching google for this "composite"..
[01:58] <premier_> hello.  Im trying to get my computer to hibernate.  One of the usb device prevents it from hiberanating, something about returing -16.  Can anyone help me?
[01:58] <premier_> I says the the usb device 5-1.4 is the source.  how can I figure out which usb device that is?  lsusb and lspci dont give that information
[01:58] <mjunx> if aiglx is the xorg composite extension, then I've used that on an i915GMA (or whatever the acronym is), and it worked fine with beryl (both emerald and aquamarine)
[01:59] <mjunx> premier_, have you tried unplugging and plugging in devices until it works? :P
[01:59] <looris> well looks like libxcomposite1 is already installed
[02:00] <premier_> mjunx: yeah, but it seems that every device can cause it
[02:00] <ferret_0567> That doesn't matter, you have to enable AIGLX
[02:00] <mjunx> looris, composite is the extension you need to enable in xorg so that you can use beryl or compiz
[02:00] <DuncanF> Anyone know why my screensaver would preview and test fine, but when it goes into the actual screensaver is just displays a black screen?
[02:00] <mjunx> although, I have it enabled right now, but I'm just using kwin, so whatever >_>
[02:00] <premier_> mjunx: also, before when I hibernated and it failed, it delivered me back to my screen saver, but now it just sits there with a black screen.
[02:01] <premier_> mjunx: when I unplug everything it works
[02:01] <mjunx> hmm, my guess is some IRQ conflicts or something related to IRQs, so I don't really have any advice, sorry :/
[02:01] <looris> mjunx, ferret_0567: oh, pardon me if i don't know these programs, but in the last N years i've been using linux only on servers....
[02:01] <mjunx> looris, that's alright, I learnt about composite only recently anyhow :)
[02:01] <nosrednaekim> did you try restarting kde when you made your transparency changes?
[02:01] <ferret_0567> I know upgrading the NVIDIA drivers to the latest compatible with your card, and enabling AIGLX, which requires Composite, will work
[02:02] <mjunx> and composite is a concept, not a program :)
[02:02] <ferret_0567> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_AIGLX
[02:02] <ferret_0567> I think that will work
[02:02] <looris> nosrednaekim: yeah i have restarted it
[02:02] <mjunx> worked for me
[02:03] <looris> ferret_0567: thanks i was already reading that site ;)
[02:03] <Joshooa> Hey I need help
[02:03] <ferret_0567> Another page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLXOnEdgy?highlight=%28AIGLX%29
[02:03] <Joshooa> It says my drive is 100% used, and 7.1/7.3GB are used, that's not 100%
[02:04] <mjunx> 5% is reserved for root, Joshooa
[02:04] <Joshooa> And the only way I got booted up, somehow, is in Ubuntu, not Kubuntu, and i have no idea why
[02:04] <Joshooa> But that's still not 100% used
[02:04] <mjunx> some programs write logs too, and that's hard to do when you don't have any space left ;p
[02:04] <mjunx> so they segfault
[02:05] <Joshooa> And I couldn't delete anything or even read man before
[02:05] <mjunx> no, but it's at least 95% used, and you can't write anymore without root permissions
[02:05] <premier_> mjunx: I also tried to suspend a couple of times, but it cant get it to resume: it doesnt respond to my keyboard or anything, even the power button
[02:05] <Joshooa> and I did a reboot, and it would go into Kubuntu, and I would enter my name and pw, and it would start to log in, then go back to the login screen
[02:05] <mjunx> yeah, I know that problem, man renders and caches the page, but if it has nowhere to store it...
[02:05] <Joshooa> I have root permissions, and there is NOT that much stuff on the drive
[02:05] <Joshooa> I was 100% full and deleted a DVD image, 3.98 GB, and still 100% full
[02:06] <mjunx> try a fsck then
[02:06] <curtis> hello all.  Does anyone run Icecast?
[02:06] <mjunx> oh, yeah, definitely fsck it
[02:06] <Joshooa> but that was before the reboot, before it didn't go down to 7.1GB either
[02:06] <Joshooa> heh
[02:06] <BluesKaj> is KDE or kubuntu-desktop in the default repos in ubuntu ?
[02:06] <Joshooa> small font looks like you are saying something else
[02:06] <mjunx> BluesKaj, yeah
[02:06] <nosrednaekim> jooshua you have to delete the dvd image out of trash
[02:06] <mjunx> oh, did you rm it or use the gui?
[02:07] <mjunx> forgot about that nasty trash thing
[02:07] <DuncanF> heh
[02:07] <Joshooa> It may cause SEVERE filesystem damage if I do this
[02:07] <Joshooa> not severe, SEVERE
[02:07] <Joshooa> First I used the trash bin, then I couldn't empty the trash
[02:07] <mjunx> uh, you can't do fsck on a mounted drive
[02:07] <Joshooa> then I used rm
[02:07] <DuncanF> speaking of the GUI, I can't seem to get any scripts to run from the GUI, have to do it through terminal, is there a simple way to do that?
[02:07] <Joshooa> well, it's my only Linux drive that has the problem
[02:07] <mjunx> well, you can't fix the problems while it's mounted at least
[02:08] <Joshooa> ugh
[02:08] <easytiger> DuncanF: what can't you do
[02:08] <mjunx> DuncanF, Alt-F2
[02:08] <Joshooa> All I want to do is get my Kubuntu DVD burnt and reinstall everything anyway
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> you need to go to /home/yourusername/.trash
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> and delete it
[02:08] <Joshooa> but I can't download it cause my disk is 100% full for some unknown reason
[02:08] <Joshooa> nosrednaekim: Already did
[02:08] <Joshooa> nosrednaekim: Nothing is in there
[02:08] <looris> well, as far as i've read now, Rage cards are not supported at all, neither by aiglx nor by xgl :/
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> ok..
[02:08] <looris> i suppose they are too old or too lame
[02:08] <mjunx> uh, I think the trash is in ~/.local/share/Trash/
[02:09] <thoreauputic> Joshooa: try sudo apt-get clean  to clean out any deb packages in the cache
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> what about /root/.trash
[02:09] <Joshooa> See, I was like, 80% full, send the image to the trash bin, and some other smaller stuff, and then bam, 100% full, too fu ll to delete or empty trash
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> is it?
[02:09] <DuncanF> easytiger, mjunx: It's a scrip with conditions for running a binary file, and I was trying to get it to run as a taskbar icon
[02:09] <mjunx> Joshooa, do "sudo du -sch /*" to see what's using space
[02:09] <Joshooa> I think that worked, but I didn't sudo cause I'm logged in as root for some readn
[02:09] <mjunx> DuncanF, well, that's a job for .desktop files!
[02:09] <Joshooa> reason*
[02:10] <mjunx> well, once you find out which directories are taking up space, do du -sch on the directories in there and so on
[02:10] <Joshooa> lib is biggest so far at 190M
[02:10] <mjunx> oh, don't delete anything in /bin, /sbin, /etc, or /lib
[02:10] <mjunx> big no-no
[02:10] <nosrednaekim> Joshooa I found where trash is, its in /home/.Trash-0
[02:10] <thoreauputic> Joshooa: don't start deleting system files :)
[02:11] <Joshooa> nosrednaekim: The trash is already empty, I already did that
[02:11] <mjunx> I also found the trash in ~/.local/share/Trash/
[02:11] <Joshooa> nosrednaekim: I don't know why it thinks it isn't
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> check the trash in /home/.Trash-o pls...
[02:11] <mjunx> although you might have one in /root/.trash/ or something
[02:12] <Joshooa> Well, Home is 4GB, Media is 116GB, proc is 642MB, and usr is 2.2GB
[02:12] <nosrednaekim> you need root permissions to read /home/.Trash-0
[02:12] <Joshooa> And my linux partition I am running is 8GB but I don't see that on there
[02:12] <mjunx> proc is 0 MB actually ;)
[02:12] <Neuer> boah ich dreh durch
[02:12] <Joshooa> I'm logged in as root so that's covered there
[02:12] <mjunx> check how much space /root is using at least
[02:12] <Joshooa> But, why didn't ubuntu ask me to log in?
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> when?
[02:13] <Joshooa> I logged in as Josh, in the terminal
[02:13] <mjunx> might have something to do with no space available
[02:13] <Joshooa> started ubuntu with startx
[02:13] <Joshooa> and now I'm root@josh
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> interesting...
[02:13] <Joshooa> I never entered a pw in the terminal or anything to get into root
[02:13] <Joshooa> but when I came into ubuntu, even though I wanted kubuntu, and go to terminal, I'm root
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> ok...
[02:13] <Joshooa> anyway, th ought that was weird
[02:14] <Joshooa> But I'm new so it may not be
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> well check and see if there is anything in /home/.Trash-0 , because thats where it keeps everything that i emptied out of my personal trash
[02:14] <mjunx> also check if anything else like that exists via ls -A /home
[02:15] <Joshooa> No such file or directory
[02:15] <mjunx> is /home mounted?
[02:15] <Joshooa> mjunx: Doesn't it have to be?
[02:15] <mjunx> not necessarily...
[02:15] <Joshooa> mjunx: Everything i Have is on an 8GB partition, and installed there
[02:16] <mjunx> which is why root's home directory is in /root instead
[02:16] <Joshooa> ah
[02:16] <Joshooa> good point
[02:16] <Joshooa> well I am in /home/josh right now
[02:16] <Joshooa> So, yes?
[02:16] <mjunx> well, "ls -A /home" should work then
[02:17] <jarn> When I start a new X server, how do I run things in it?
[02:17] <Joshooa> it just shows josh
[02:17] <falconcelina> hello all
[02:17] <falconcelina> can anyone tell me how do i play .wmv files on ubuntu?
[02:17] <Joshooa> Is Ubuntu more stable than Kubuntu, I heard that it was, and now I'm stating to wonder, even though they should be like the same
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> they are about the same
[02:18] <mjunx> !codecs
[02:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:18] <mjunx> there we go, falconcelina, ^
[02:18] <smoze_> wow, huge update tonight
[02:18] <Joshooa> I thought they were, but now I don't know, also, I don't have a working Kubuntu DVD, but I have a working Ubuntu DVD
[02:18] <mjunx> but, libxine-extracodecs should help (in multiverse I think)
[02:19] <Joshooa> and last time I installed Ubuntu, then did that sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop or whatever, a lot of my programs messed up and wouldn't open anymore
[02:19] <mjunx> if you know enough already to know what I mean by that, you're golden; if not, read the restricted formats page and ask any questions you still have afterwards
[02:19] <Joshooa> Why can't I see the windows network in Ubuntu but I can in Kubuntu?
[02:20] <mzanfardino> what is the application I would use to connect to a windows terminal server?
[02:21] <mjunx> what exactly is a windows terminal server?
[02:21] <mjunx> does its protocol have a name?
[02:21] <mjunx> oh nevermind
[02:21] <mjunx> mzanfardino, krdc
[02:22] <mjunx> and rdesktop should be installed with that
[02:22] <mjunx> so, get both
[02:23] <looris> argh, now firefox crashes if it loads my google personalized home page - odd it was wonking half an hour ago O_o
[02:24] <BluesKaj> gents , Im curious , what the difference between KDE and Kubuntu Desktop ?
[02:25] <mjunx> kde has a lot more packages
[02:25] <mjunx> kubuntu doesn't install all of them by default
[02:25] <looris> well i'll go, thanks to everybody, bye!!
[02:26] <BluesKaj> well, i just checked in adept and I don't Kubuntu Desktop installed , altho I'm running KDE
[02:26] <BluesKaj> have
[02:26] <mjunx> do you have the "kde" package installed?
[02:27] <BluesKaj> yes
[02:27] <Generic|Work|> kubuntu-desktop is a dummy package with all the kde apps set as dependencies
[02:27] <Generic|Work|> it doesn't have to be installed for you to be running in kde
[02:27] <premier_> does linux/kubuntu have hybrid hard drive support?
[02:28] <BluesKaj> my friend wants to upgrade from gnome to kde , he has ubuntu edgy installed ATM
[02:28] <Generic|Work|> premier_, I believe it should support it
[02:28] <mzanfardino> mjunx: hmm... I have both krde and rdesktop installed, but when I attempt to browse for my terminal server I don't see it in my list.  And if I attempt to force a connection, either by name or IP address, krde does nothing...
[02:28] <premier_> BluesKaj: I think you can do that by installing the kubuntu-desktop package
[02:28] <Generic|Work|> premier_, boot off a live disc and see if it detects the drive
[02:28] <mjunx> you need to specify the port as well, mzanfardino
[02:29] <mjunx> so like someaddress.org:6001
[02:29] <Generic|Work|> mzanfardino, rpd://foo
[02:29] <Generic|Work|> er
[02:29] <premier_> BluesKaj: I tried to do the oposite and it got screwed up, gnome crashed on boot
[02:29] <BluesKaj> Generic|Work|, what his best bet , installing KDE or Kubuntu Desktop?
[02:29] <Generic|Work|> rdp://foo
[02:29] <premier_> Generic|Work|: I want to find out before I buy a hybrid hard drive
[02:29] <Joshooa> So, is it difficult to install Ubuntu and Kubuntu and switch between them, and is that likely to cause conflicts like last time I upgraded to Kubuntu?
[02:29] <Generic|Work|> BluesKaj, kubuntu-desktop
[02:29] <Joshooa> And I mean just switch between Gnome and KDE, not actually two seperate installs
[02:29] <BluesKaj> right, ok , i'll tell him
[02:30] <mjunx> Joshooa, not difficult at all
[02:30] <Generic|Work|> premier_, I just did a quick search on support. It's in development, so it's not in the current ubuntu kernel
[02:30] <mzanfardino> mjunx: ah... ok, however, I don't know the port...
[02:31] <BluesKaj> will kubuntu run on an older pc , 600mhz with 256 ram ...60G HDD
[02:31] <premier_> I wonder if it will work by june-ish
[02:31] <Generic|Work|> Joshooa, nope, logout and select kde as your session manager
[02:31] <mjunx> mzanfardino, do nmap on the host maybe?
[02:31] <Generic|Work|> mzanfardino, in krdc, just type rdp://servername
[02:32] <BluesKaj> !specs
[02:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about specs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:32] <Generic|Work|> BluesKaj, it will, but i recommend running something less resource heavy
[02:32] <Generic|Work|> !requirements
[02:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about requirements - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:32] <mzanfardino> Generic|Work|: brilliant!
[02:33] <premier_> I want my computer to have a white on black color scheme instead of a black on white, but every other internet application seems to want to match a white background with my default  system font color (white on white).  why?
[02:33] <Generic|Work|> mzanfardino, :)
[02:33] <mjunx> !help | Generic|Work|
[02:33] <ubotu> Generic|Work|: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:33] <mjunx> lol
[02:33] <Generic|Work|> quiet you!
[02:33] <Generic|Work|> :P
[02:33] <mjunx> ;)
[02:34] <mjunx> if you want to [ab] use the bot, rtfm n00b hehe
[02:34] <Generic|Work|> hehe, sometimes it has useful stuff!
[02:34] <mjunx> yeah, but when it gets spammed (like in #ubuntu *coughcough*)...
[02:35] <Generic|Work|> heh
[02:35] <Generic|Work|> I taught a helper yesterday how to use > with ubotu
[02:35] <Ashex> I should script that...
[02:37] <mjunx> I wonder how advanced that bot it
[02:37] <BluesKaj> Generic|Work|, he wants to run it as a music server controller for his Roku setup
[02:37] <mjunx> sure, I could install it myself and see hehe
[02:37] <mjunx> let's see if it supports zsh syntax ;)
[02:38] <Ashex> BluesKaj, so just as a file server or for streaming audio to the roku box?
[02:38] <mjunx> !help |& me
[02:38] <ubotu> & me: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:39] <mjunx> hmm, guess not
[02:40] <Ashex> ah, I know this bought
[02:40] <Ashex> too bad we have to register to play with ubotu
[02:40] <Ashex> bot*
[02:41] <jhutchins>  mjunx It's a pretty neat bot, if two people do the same query, or if you do two in rapid succession, it just says "see above".
[02:41] <mjunx> hmm, nice
[02:41] <jhutchins> If you want to play with it it's a good idea to just open a query window or /msg it.
[02:41] <mjunx> yeah, and you can install the bot yourself also
[02:42] <mjunx> !version
[02:42] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[02:42] <mjunx> dammit that's not what I meant
[02:42] <mjunx> er, sorry
[02:42] <Jucato> !botabuse
[02:42] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[02:42] <jhutchins> Jucato: Ought to have a throttle function that either pops that up or /ignores people.
[02:43] <Jucato> nah. it's ok. kicking is better :)
[02:49] <scott_> im having some problems getting my dell truemobile 1300 wireless adapter working, kubuntu doesnt seem to have the appropriate drivers and i cant seem to get NDISwrapper working for me
[02:52] <mjunx> scott_, there's no native drivers for it?
[02:52] <scott_> not that seem to work
[02:52] <Jucato> !wireless
[02:52] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:52] <scott_> ty
[02:53] <reldruh> scott_: what's the entry for it in lspci?
[02:55] <scott_> 14e4:4320
[02:55] <mjunx> I don't think that's helpful lol
[02:55] <scott_> 02:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[02:56] <mjunx> oh, another broadcom :(
[02:56] <scott_> yea .... came from the factory :(
[02:56] <mjunx> in the long run, I suggest swapping out that wifi card for something that doesn't suck, but in the meantime, let's see if we can get it working
[02:56] <NightBird> is there a way to make an extra desktop entry that basically the only difference is that it uses a different driver?
[02:57] <reldruh> scott_: I've got a broadcom card. Don't let people scare you, it's really not _that_ terrible
[02:57] <reldruh> scott_: ndiswrapper will work with it, but it's... temperamental
[02:58] <bioflame> my updater will not run i keep getting "Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one."
[02:58] <mjunx> bioflame, then you've got another program using it
[02:58] <nosrednaekim> are you running another package management app?
[02:58] <mjunx> or it was killed while being used and wasn't cleaned up
[02:58] <reldruh> bioflame: did you stop adept or apt-get in the middle of an install?
[02:58] <bioflame> not that i know of
[02:59] <bioflame> I have rebooted
[02:59] <mjunx> so, check to make sure apt-get, aptitude, dselect, adept, and synaptic aren't running
[02:59] <stdin> !aptfix
[02:59] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:59] <bioflame> oh there a list ok one sec
[03:00] <mjunx> sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[03:01] <mjunx> and what's with the french quotes? lol
[03:02] <Fizzbane> Hey. Does anyone here know how to put the windows boot loader back on a hd using the recovery console on the XP disc?
[03:03] <jhutchins> Fizzbane: Nope.
[03:03] <stdin> Fizzbane: fixmbr (I think)
[03:03] <jhutchins> fdisk /mbr works.
[03:03] <mjunx> !ntldr
[03:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntldr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:03] <mjunx> bah
[03:03] <elijah> hi everyone
  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a   thanks all
[03:03] <Fizzbane> I hate windows -_-
[03:03] <bioflame> that worked
[03:04] <pax> fixmbr can be used from recovery console.
[03:04] <Fizzbane> but where is grub located?
[03:04] <jhutchins> Fizzbane: Same place.
[03:04] <Fizzbane> isnt it on the MBR?
[03:04] <jhutchins> Fizzbane: You can't have both.
[03:04] <mjunx> Fizzbane, grub is in /boot mostly
[03:04] <Fizzbane> then how do i dual boot windows and linux?
[03:05] <nosrednaekim> which is really the MBR
[03:05] <jhutchins> Well, you can if you have some other method of selecting which OS is going to boot.
[03:05] <mjunx> a loader thinger is in the mbr
[03:05] <mjunx> can grub even fit in the mbr?
[03:05] <jhutchins> Fizzbane: Usually you use a Linux bootloader, which will load either one.
[03:05] <Fizzbane> ok
[03:05] <nosrednaekim> I think so....along with a spash and all
[03:05] <mjunx> oh, Fizzbane, grub can boot windows sorta
[03:05] <elijah> how will I install vlc media player in kubuntu?
[03:05] <stdin> mjunx: yeah, the executable part of grub can
[03:05] <Fizzbane> I got grub to boot windows but i get the error "ntldr is missing"
[03:05] <mjunx> it'll boot ntldr
[03:05] <mjunx> oh, that's a windows problem then, isn't it?
[03:05] <stdin> !vlc
[03:05] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[03:06] <Fizzbane> so it doesnt really boot windows
[03:06] <stdin> !info vlc
[03:06] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1.1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB
[03:06] <jhutchins> If you really know the MS boot system, you can get the NT bootloader to boot linux.
[03:06] <mjunx> elijah, via adept
[03:06] <mjunx> !multiverse
[03:06] <Fizzbane> i guess its a windows problem
[03:06] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:06] <mjunx> yar, that thing
[03:06] <pax> ntldr have nothing to do with grub
[03:06] <Fizzbane> I dont know alot about the M$ boot system
[03:06] <stdin> elijah: you need to enable universe first, look at the link from ubotu
[03:06] <mjunx> ntldr is windows' boot loader
[03:06] <nosrednaekim> I think Grub  chainloads mtldr
[03:06] <mjunx> it sucks for the most part
[03:06] <nosrednaekim> *ntldr
[03:06] <mjunx> grub2 looks interesting...
[03:07] <jhutchins> Fizzbane: grub or lilo will let you pick Windows and hand you over to the windows boot process.
[03:07] <elijah> ok stdin thanks
[03:07] <pax> if it's missing then it's ms's problem.
[03:07] <Fizzbane> i am missing the ntldr which is the windows boot loader
[03:07] <elijah> what's the exact URL stdin?
[03:07] <jhutchins> Fizzbane: How did you loose it?
[03:07] <Fizzbane> I don't know
[03:07] <mjunx> *lose
[03:07] <stdin> elijah: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu tells you how to do it
[03:08] <jhutchins> Fizzbane: So when you pick windows it doesn't boot?
[03:08] <Fizzbane> i get the error "ntldr is missing"
[03:08] <pax> Fizzbane - just google ntldr missing and fix it, have nothing to do with grub
[03:08] <elijah> thanks stdin
[03:09] <jhutchins> Fizzbane: Possibly you are not pointing at the correct device.
[03:09] <mjunx> ntldr is beyond the scope of linux in any shape or form :)
[03:09] <Fizzbane> so where does grub located? in the mbr or on the linux hd?
[03:09] <stdin> Fizzbane: both
[03:09] <Fizzbane> so do not overwrite the mbr?
[03:09] <cotyrothery> Can someone help me
[03:09] <jhutchins> Fizzbane: You can only have one bootloader in the MBR.
[03:10] <jhutchins> Fizzbane: In order to load linux, you install a portion of grub, or lilo, to the mbr.
[03:10] <cotyrothery> I Installed kubuntu but when my computer restarted it sayed i have no operating system
[03:10] <Fizzbane> so your basicly saying do not overwrite the mbr?
[03:10] <jhutchins> Fizzbane: Both windows and linux have processes that take over from that small program in the MBR, which basically just tells the bios where to start loading code.
[03:10] <jhutchins> Fizzbane: Yes, you do overwrite the mbr.
[03:10] <nosrednaekim> cotyrotehery: do you have plug and play OS enabled in your BIOS?
[03:11] <cotyrothery> um i dont know
[03:11] <cotyrothery> how would i know
[03:11] <Fizzbane> .....
[03:11] <jhutchins> Fizzbane: If you use fixmbr or fdisk /mbr in Windows, you will write the Microsoft bootloader to it.
[03:11] <nosrednaekim> check in your BIOS
[03:11] <jhutchins> If you install grub or lilo, you will write their bootloader to the MBR.
[03:11] <cotyrothery> were would i go to get into my bios
[03:12] <Fizzbane> ok I will try fixmbr
[03:12] <Fizzbane> thanks
[03:12] <ubuntu> hello world !
[03:12] <jhutchins> Fizzbane: You may have to do more than that, and when you do, you won't be able to boot linux without restoring grub.
[03:12] <Fizzbane> how do i restore grub then?
[03:13] <nosrednaekim> ummmm its immediately after you run your computer on, you hit esc or f1 or del depending on your computer
[03:13] <darkteengeek> hey a guick question i am trying to use dcop to get the contents of klipper
[03:13] <cotyrothery> hok
[03:13] <cotyrothery> ok
[03:13] <nosrednaekim> it should say
[03:13] <darkteengeek> does anyone know how
[03:13] <jhutchins> Fizzbane: It sounds like XP is not finding the second stage of the ntldr, which may just mean that the boot entry in grub is not pointing at the right device, or something else may be wrong with your XP installation.
[03:13] <nosrednaekim> in there some where there should be an option for plug and play os
[03:13] <cotyrothery> ok
[03:13] <jhutchins> Fizzbane: Restore grub using the recovery mode of the live CD.
[03:14] <cotyrothery> thanks i will try that
[03:14] <Fizzbane> k
[03:14] <chavo> darkteengeek, dcop klipper klipper getClipboardContents
[03:14] <cotyrothery> i will be back if it does not work
[03:14] <Fizzbane> umm can you check my menu.lst and see if that is the problem?
[03:14] <nosrednaekim> ok
[03:14] <darkteengeek> thanks
[03:14] <pax> fixmbr and possibly fixboot from RC, then what jhutchins said.
[03:14] <chavo> darkteengeek, dcop has tab completion to
[03:14] <jhutchins> !mbr | Fizzbane
[03:14] <ubotu> Fizzbane: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:14] <pax> Fizzbane: again, no missing ntldr have nothing do to with linux or any other OS
[03:15] <Fizzbane> i knew that. I just dont want to lose grub
[03:15] <jhutchins> Fizzbane: It's probably easier to get your XP install fixed and set up to manage it's own boot, then fix grub.
[03:15] <Fizzbane> id rather not reformat again
[03:16] <jhutchins> Fizzbane: No need to go that far.
[03:16] <Fizzbane> good
[03:16] <Fizzbane> cuz i dont want to do that again
[03:17] <Fizzbane> i will try fixmbr and fixboot
[03:17] <Fizzbane> and see if that fixes the problem
[03:17] <Fizzbane> thank you.
[03:18] <ferret_0567> Can somebody help me get my Evolution 2 mail imported into KMail? I tried kmailcvt, but it's not working, ir freezes and imports one message from Drafts and then freezes importing the rest of Drafts.
[03:18] <angasule> !java
[03:18] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[03:18] <Fizzbane> Ill be back if i mess up linux.
[03:18] <Fizzbane> thanks again
[03:18] <Fizzbane> bye
[03:18] <nosrednaekim> bye
[03:19] <ferret_0567> ok, how do I get Sun Java to work in Konqueror
[03:20] <ferret_0567> It works in Mozilla based browsers like Firefox and Epiphany
[03:21] <mjunx> ferret_0567, rescan for plugins in its configure
[03:22] <nosrednaekim> konqueror uses the same drivers as firefox
[03:22] <nosrednaekim> so you should be able to install it from where it is in .mozzilla
[03:22] <BluesKaj> is there an atomic clock utility like the one texas based one for windows
[03:23] <mjunx> BluesKaj, you mean for linux?
[03:23] <nosrednaekim> its called "ntp"
[03:23] <mjunx> because you can just sync with an ntp server (pool.ntp.org) which are all synced to atomic clocks
[03:24] <ferret_0567> Oh! aptitude reinstall sun-java6-plugin:
[03:24] <ferret_0567> E: I wasn't able to locate file for the sun-java6-plugin package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package.
 E: Couldn't lock list directory..are you root?
[03:24] <mjunx> sudo
[03:26] <ferret_0567> 'sudo aptitude reinstall sun-java6-plugin'...same thing
[03:26] <ferret_0567> apt-index-watcher is running
[03:26] <Hasrat_USA> ?
[03:26] <BluesKaj> mjunx, my pc goes down at night so ntp isn't for me
[03:26] <ferret_0567> adept requires it
[03:26] <mjunx> BluesKaj, you can sync with it whenever...
[03:26] <mjunx> like, during the day
[03:26] <ferret_0567> travis@ubuntulaptop:~$ killall apt-index-watcher
[03:26] <ferret_0567> apt-index-watcher(4158): Operation not permitted
[03:26] <ferret_0567> apt-index-watcher: no process killed
[03:27] <nosrednaekim> ntp still works...esp when you reboot
[03:27] <ferret_0567> evil apt-index-watcher!
[03:29] <mjunx> SUDO!
[03:29] <Hasrat_USA> lol
[03:30] <ferret_0567> purging apt-index-watcher:
[03:30] <ferret_0567> broken packages:
[03:30] <ferret_0567> adept-common debtags
[03:30] <ferret_0567> Things depend on apt-index-watcher other than that:
[03:30] <ferret_0567> adept
[03:30] <ferret_0567> adept-batch
[03:30] <ferret_0567> adept-common
[03:30] <ferret_0567> adept-installer
[03:30] <ferret_0567> adept-manager
[03:30] <ferret_0567> adept-notifier
[03:30] <ferret_0567> adept-updater
[03:30] <ferret_0567> debtags
[03:30] <ferret_0567> language-selector-qt
[03:30] <Jucato> !pasetbin | ferret_0567
[03:30] <_Daisuke_Ido_> !pastebin | ferret_0567
[03:30] <ferret_0567> That's going to be my only more than 4 lines of code post
[03:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pasetbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:30] <ubotu> ferret_0567: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:30] <ferret_0567> Thanks for that
[03:30] <BluesKaj> mjunx, i wonder if ntp gonna change to daylight saving time sat nite ?
[03:30] <Jucato> bah I can't spell :P
[03:30] <_Daisuke_Ido_> hehe
[03:30] <nosrednaekim> Blues: good question
[03:31] <BluesKaj> here in north america
[03:31] <_Daisuke_Ido_> vmware = not bad
[03:31] <Hasrat_USA> _Daisuke_Ido_:  pastebin service is free?
[03:31] <mjunx> ntp is in UTC
[03:31] <_Daisuke_Ido_> yep
[03:31] <Jucato> Hasrat_USA: yes
[03:31] <mjunx> your computer calculates the proper time from that
[03:31] <nosrednaekim> oh well...
[03:31] <_Daisuke_Ido_> now to pray that i can play my non-wineworthy games
[03:31] <_Daisuke_Ido_> namely, the longest journey
[03:32] <nosrednaekim> _daisuke vmware won't work with anything requiring 3d accel
[03:32] <_Daisuke_Ido_> oldish games, and it works in software mode
[03:32] <nosrednaekim> ok
[03:33] <_Daisuke_Ido_> i tend to shy away from recent games
[03:33] <mshade> BluesKaj: ntp won't affect DST
[03:33] <mshade> ntp is based on GMT
[03:33] <mjunx> hmm, if you have any dos games, you can run them in freedos
[03:33] <mshade> your machine needs to know how to translate GMT into your local time
[03:33] <mjunx> libc calculates the proper time from timezone files
[03:33] <mshade> for that, ntp won't help
[03:33] <BluesKaj> so chrony will ?
[03:34] <mjunx> and if you have a version of libc released since the timezone change was ratified, you're set
[03:34] <BluesKaj> when was that , ?  :)
[03:34] <mshade> BluesKaj: /usr/sbin/zdump -v |grep 2007
[03:34] <mshade> whoops
[03:35] <mshade>  /usr/sbin/zdump -v /etc/localtime |grep 2007
[03:35] <nosrednaekim> no such directory
[03:35] <ferret_0567> Why can't I lock the dpkg list directory, even as root, with apt-index-watcher stopped by it's /etc/init.d/ script?
[03:35] <mshade> trailing / ?
[03:35] <BluesKaj> no such dir here either
[03:35] <mjunx> hrtr, tun yhid
[03:35] <mshade> sorry
[03:35] <mjunx> oops
[03:36] <mjunx> here, run this
[03:36] <mshade> zdump is in /usr/bin in ubuntu :)
[03:36] <mjunx> date --date="Mar 25 15:00:00 UTC 2006"
[03:36] <mjunx> date --date="Mar 25 15:00:00 UTC 2007"
[03:36] <mjunx> the times should be an hour apart
[03:36] <ferret_0567> run ddate
[03:36] <mshade> zdump -v /etc/localtime |grep 2007
[03:36] <ferret_0567> It's fun
[03:36] <mjunx> well, one year and an hour apart
[03:36] <nosrednaekim> loos good
[03:36] <mshade> the zdump command above should output March 11 as the date instead of April
[03:36] <nosrednaekim> *looks
[03:37] <mshade> zdump -v /etc/localtime |grep 2007 :)
[03:37] <mjunx> I got my method from a dude on /.
[03:37] <nosrednaekim> yep march 11 here in 6:10
[03:37] <mjunx> it works perfectly
[03:38] <mshade> not saying your method is bad, mjunx :p
[03:38] <cotyrothery> it did not have a plug in play in bios
[03:38] <mjunx> it's the most straightforward method :)
[03:38] <BluesKaj> oh cool , it sees it mar 11 and nov 4 as edt and est
[03:38] <mshade> not if you want to know what day DST starts ;)
[03:38] <nosrednaekim> cotyrothery.... then what exactly is your error, and when do you get it?
[03:39] <cotyrothery> it just says that i have no operating system
[03:39] <BluesKaj> no worries
[03:39] <cotyrothery> at boot
[03:39] <elijah> hi stdin
[03:39] <nosrednaekim> well, put in a live CD and reinstall
[03:39] <cotyrothery> i have
[03:39] <nosrednaekim> you must have messed up somewhere
[03:40] <mshade> cotyrothery: if you go into the config for your hard drives, you should be able to set 'Large' or 'AUTO'
[03:40] <cotyrothery> nope i just let it do its thing
[03:40] <elijah> I added this " deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main" on the repositories, but then the adept manager doesn't load anymore
[03:40] <mshade> cotyrothery: toggle it to one or the other
[03:40] <elijah> why is that?
[03:40] <mshade> cotyrothery: i'm talking about in the bios, i mean.
[03:40] <cotyrothery> ya
[03:40] <cotyrothery> set to large or auto
[03:40] <cotyrothery> ?
[03:40] <cotyrothery> what will that do
[03:40] <mshade> if it's auto, set to large -- if large, set to auto
[03:40] <cotyrothery> ok
[03:40] <mshade> it changes the way the bios interacts with the drive
[03:40] <cotyrothery> ok
[03:41] <stdin> elijah: that's supposed to be for some commercial apps, you probably don't need it
[03:41] <mshade> i've had that issue with grub, but not lilo :)
[03:41] <cotyrothery> see you in a few
[03:41] <cotyrothery> it takes for ever to start up window
[03:41] <elijah> ok then how will i remove it?
[03:41] <elijah> to make adept running again/
[03:41] <stdin> elijah: just press Alt-F2, and enter "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list" and remove that line
[03:42] <elijah> i'll try this stdin thanks
[03:42] <nosrednaekim> cotyrothery, is windows still working on that comp?
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> I have to go... bye all'
[03:43] <mshade> later, mike
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> haha how'd you guess?
[03:44] <mshade> i read everything backwards.
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> haha yeah bye
[03:45] <DaSkreech> Jucato: You got powers here? :)
[03:45] <stdin> he's got "super cow powers"
[03:46] <ferret_0567> lol
[03:46] <ferret_0567> try sudo apt-get moo
[03:46] <ferret_0567> or just apt-get moo
[03:46] <DaSkreech> :-)
[03:46] <stdin> and aptitude moo
[03:46] <DaSkreech> Who was that masked Holestein cow?
[03:46] <stdin> aptitude -v moo
[03:46] <stdin> etc...
[03:47] <ferret_0567> There are no easter eggs in this program.
[03:47] <stdin> ferret_0567: yeah, add a -v
[03:47] <stdin> ferret_0567: then another
[03:47] <stdin> ferret_0567: and another
[03:47] <ferret_0567> travis@ubuntulaptop:~$ aptitude -vvvv moo
[03:47] <ferret_0567> Okay, okay, if I give you an Easter Egg, will you go away?
[03:48] <stdin> keep adding '-v'
[03:48] <ferret_0567> I won!
[03:49] <stdin> ferret_0567: 1 more -v
[03:49] <elijah> hi stdin, i tried it and it worked
[03:50] <stdin> elijah: great :)
[03:50] <DaSkreech> Can someone help with a chroot audio issue?
[03:50] <DaSkreech> !chroot
[03:50] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[03:50] <elijah> so now, what i need is to enable the universe/multiverse to install other applications like windows media player, right?
[03:51] <DaSkreech> elijah: blasphemy!
[03:51] <stdin> elijah: yeah, except you can't actually install windows media player, just the codecs
[03:51] <DaSkreech> elijah: Why would you WANT windows Media player?
[03:51] <mjunx> for the eye candy lol
[03:51] <ferret_0567> multiverse is for propriatory stuff
[03:51] <ferret_0567> Why would you WANT WMP?
[03:52] <elijah> because amarok and kaffeine cannot play my favorite videos
[03:52] <ferret_0567> try mplayer
[03:52] <ferret_0567> ...
[03:52] <DaSkreech> elijah: They probably can
[03:52] <ferret_0567> wait
[03:52] <DaSkreech> elijah: what videos
[03:52] <ferret_0567> There is a libxine-extracodecs
[03:52] <mjunx> get that
[03:52] <mjunx> !codecs
[03:52] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:52] <Gh0st75> hullo, adept seems to be working again now thankfully
[03:52] <mjunx> read read read^^^
[03:52] <Gh0st75> anyone know the command line to install sun java 6 ?
[03:53] <DaSkreech> !java
[03:53] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[03:53] <mjunx> apt-get install sun-java6-sdk
[03:53] <Gh0st75> sdk? ah that's what i was typing wrong then, thanks
[03:53] <cotyrothery> i did not find anything
[03:53] <eean> is there an update-manager for Kubuntu?
[03:53] <stdin> Gh0st75: you need edgy-backports, and you probably want the jre, no the sdk
[03:53] <mjunx> er, crap, it's jdk
[03:53] <cotyrothery> that said i could change auto or larg
[03:54] <ferret_0567> You need to enable multiverse to get libxine-extracodecs
[03:54] <Hasrat_USA> huh there is no need to install java6 jre
[03:54] <elijah> ferret_0567, where can i get those extra codecs?
[03:54] <ferret_0567> Multiverse
[03:54] <Gh0st75> i've enabled the backports, trying to install it again now, looks like tha command worked, i was using jdk, but left out the word install
[03:54] <ferret_0567> Did you register elijah?
[03:55] <ferret_0567> register for FreeNode, that is?
[03:55] <elijah> how's that?
[03:55] <DaSkreech> !register
[03:55] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[03:55] <mjunx> !multiverse | elijah
[03:55] <ubotu> elijah: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:55] <stdin> ferret_0567: why do you need him to register ?
[03:55] <cotyrothery> I could not find the auto or larg in bios now what
[03:56] <ferret_0567> Private Messages would be most helpful, I believe
[03:56] <stdin> ferret_0567: then set Unfiltered on
[03:56] <navilon> how can i turn off the icons that show up next to menu items?
[03:56] <cotyrothery> So am i going to be able to run kubuntu
[03:57] <stdin> ferret_0567: '/msg NickSetv set unfiltered on' lets unregistered users /msg you
[03:57] <cotyrothery> I can not get kubuntu to boot it says there is no operating system when i boot
[03:58] <stdin> ferret_0567: that's NickServ tho :P
[03:58] <stdin> not Nicksetv
[03:58] <mjunx> cotyrothery, reinstall grub
[03:58] <mjunx> ask someone else in here how to do that if you don't know how because I don't remember how, sorry
[03:58] <mjunx> or check grub-install's manpage or something
[03:58] <mjunx> !grub
[03:58] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:59] <mjunx> or that^
[03:59] <Compleja> donde era el canal de espanol ?
[03:59] <Compleja> :/
[03:59] <mjunx> #ubuntu-es probably
[03:59] <stdin> !es
[03:59] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:59] <Compleja> mjunx, thnks =*
[03:59] <Compleja> >D
[03:59] <mjunx> np
[03:59] <elijah> ferret_0567, stdin, can we chat now? privately ;)
[04:00] <coty> so what do i do
[04:01] <ferret_0567> elijah, are you receiving my messages?
[04:01] <ferret_0567> I didn't even have to get the
[04:01] <mjunx> oh yeah, you need to register with ns to pm people
[04:01] <ferret_0567> 'set unfiltered on
[04:01] <coty> mjunx
[04:01] <ferret_0567> thing fixed
[04:01] <mjunx> yes'm?
[04:01] <coty> I cant get grub to work i guess
[04:01] <elijah> ferret_0567 yuh i can rcve your messages
[04:02] <elijah> i did reply
[04:02] <ferret_0567> In private messages?
[04:02] <elijah> yep
[04:02] <ferret_0567> I can't hear you.
[04:02] <scott_> sry i come from fedora.... how do you restart a service in ubuntu
[04:02] <mjunx> coty, from a livecd?
[04:02] <mjunx> scott_, /etc/init.d/whatever restart
[04:03] <coty> I can get live cd to work
[04:03] <coty> it works fine
[04:03] <ferret_0567> /etc/init.d has scripts...you beat me to it
[04:03] <scott_> kk ty
[04:03] <elijah> i buzzed you again in private, did you see it?
[04:03] <ferret_0567> no
[04:03] <ferret_0567> Grrr....
[04:03] <elijah> can you type somehting again?
[04:03] <elijah> in private
[04:03] <ferret_0567> I am using Kopete, why doesn't it work?
[04:04] <coty> I am annoyed all i want to have is kubuntu installed
[04:04] <elijah> ok testing, got it
[04:04] <mjunx> ferret_0567, did you identify with ns?
[04:04] <stdin> ferret_0567, elijah: just create a channel if you can't message
[04:04] <coty> windows sux
[04:04] <elijah> ok
[04:04] <ferret_0567> I did just identify
[04:04] <DaSkreech> coty: What's the problem?
[04:04] <jlaustill> anyone in here have experience with kde and multiple keyboard layouts?
[04:05] <mngrif> ls: reading directory /home-thc/: Input/output error
[04:05] <mngrif>  /home-thc is a nfs share
[04:05] <coty> When i install kubuntu and it restarts it tells me i have no operating system
[04:05] <mngrif> df shows it, mount shows it, but files don't show...
[04:05] <mngrif> any and all suggestions are appreciated
[04:06] <elijah> stdin, i was able to install vlc and div-x on ubuntu before
[04:06] <coty> DaSkreech can you help
[04:07] <BluesKaj>  Vive Le Linux Revolocion !.... I got a friend convinced Bill Gates is the antichrist !
[04:07] <DaSkreech> coty: How many hard drives do you have in the computer?
[04:07] <coty> @
[04:07] <coty> 2
[04:07] <ferret_0567> Sorry, Kopete crased
[04:08] <coty> one is 15 GB
[04:08] <coty> the other is 30
[04:08] <DaSkreech> and you are sure you have the right one set to boot up?
[04:08] <coty> um i unplug the main one
[04:08] <coty> and plug the main line into the second
[04:08] <coty> wouldn't that work
[04:08] <alejandro> hola
[04:09] <alejandro> algun hispano?
[04:09] <ferret_0567> elijah? You there?
[04:09] <elijah> yup
[04:09] <BluesKaj> !es
[04:09] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:09] <ferret_0567> Can you message me in private messages? anyway, brb
[04:09] <elijah> i'll try
[04:10] <BluesKaj> gotta be registered
[04:11] <elijah> brb ferret
[04:12] <ferret_0567> is it '/msg nickserv unfiltered on' to allow me to receive private messages from unregistered users?
[04:13] <BluesKaj> ferret_0567, whynot just register yerself?
[04:13] <ferret_0567> I did
[04:13] <Joshooa> I need some help with my wireless card/network settings
[04:13] <ferret_0567> I'm identified
[04:13] <BluesKaj> let them resgiter , if their serious they will too
[04:13] <Joshooa> Everytime I start up, I need to do dhclient for my card to be seen, then enter the ESSID and Encryption, and then dhclient again to be recognized
[04:13] <coty> daskreech are you there
[04:14] <DaSkreech> coty: I don't know :)
[04:14] <montero61> hi
[04:14] <DaSkreech> you are booting off the second one?
[04:14] <montero61> mm soy de habla espaola
[04:14] <coty> yes i unplug the main line out of the main drive and plug it in the second one
[04:14] <ferret_0567> Install knetworkmanager for Kubuntu, or network-manager-gnome for Ubuntu, Joshooa
[04:15] <ferret_0567> That'll fix it :D
[04:15] <Joshooa> not if I can't get online to download it
[04:15] <Joshooa> and I don't want to do my reinstall and then have it not work and be stuck offline
[04:15] <BluesKaj> !es | montero61
[04:15] <ubotu> montero61: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:15] <Joshooa> And is that not the same thing as the Networking under settings I take it?
[04:16] <coty> so i guess there is no help for me to get kubuntu working?
[04:16] <montero61> tanks
[04:16] <montero61> muchas gracias
[04:16] <ferret_0567> Err...download the package and all dependencies onto a USB Mass Storage device and plug it into the computer requested I guess
[04:17] <warewolf_> Anyone able to help me troubleshoot installing the nvidia-glx driver on feisty herd 5?
[04:17] <ferret_0567> If you know how to get wireless working on the computer in question, connect to the network and then immediatly download one of those
[04:17] <coreymon77> warewolf
[04:17] <coty> How can i get kubuntu to work i really want it
[04:17] <coreymon77> !feisty
[04:17] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[04:18] <warewolf_> coreymon77 - I know that... doesn't mean I can't ask for help installed the driver
[04:18] <cotyrothery> So should i reinstall kubuntu again
[04:18] <warewolf_> coreymon77 I can get it running on herd 5 of ubuntu.. for not kubuntu.. which I find weird
[04:18] <Joshooa> In a little bit, I am going to put in my Ubuntu DVD and reinstall, and I don't think it will work then, and I'll be networkless
[04:18] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: whats the Main Line?
[04:18] <DaSkreech>  the Power?
[04:19] <warewolf_> DaSkreech A/C
[04:19] <Joshooa> and then even if I do eventually get it, it never saves my settings and i have to do it every time
[04:19] <Joshooa> But if on the site it says my card works, why doesn't it work
[04:19] <DaSkreech> warewolf_: sorry?
[04:20] <DaSkreech> warewolf_: sorry?
[04:20] <warewolf_> DaSkreech - Main Line - A/C power
[04:20] <warewolf_> DaSkreech - Main Line - A/C power
[04:20] <DaSkreech> Ok
[04:20] <DaSkreech> ...
[04:20] <warewolf_> oops
[04:20] <cotyrothery> Can anyone help me get kubuntu running
[04:20] <warewolf_> worry, lagged
[04:20] <DaSkreech> I don't think that will make it run from that drive
[04:20] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Wahts up?
[04:20] <cotyrothery> the same
[04:21] <cotyrothery> I cant find anyone who know what i need to do
[04:21] <DaSkreech> What's happening?
[04:21] <warewolf_> Anyone got an idea why installing nvidia-glx causes the x session to sit at a blinking _?
[04:22] <cotyrothery> I install kubuntu then restart the computer and it tells me there is no operating system
[04:22] <DaSkreech> you are on the live CD now?
[04:22] <cotyrothery> no should i be
[04:22] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: what are you on now?
[04:23] <cotyrothery> lamb old windows xp
[04:23] <coreymon77> cotyrothery: oh come on, atleast go on to the livecd
[04:24] <warewolf_> hehe =P
[04:24] <coreymon77> cotyrothery: dont insult the channel by talking in it on windoze :P
[04:24] <cotyrothery> LOL
[04:24] <cotyrothery> Sorry
[04:24] <cotyrothery> i cant help it
[04:24] <cotyrothery> I am doing my best
[04:24] <cotyrothery> to get kubuntu working
[04:24] <cotyrothery> but it is a pain
[04:24] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Thats ok. Live Cd is where we can help you the most
[04:25] <cotyrothery> lOL
[04:25] <cotyrothery> all right
[04:25] <cotyrothery> i will go to live cd
[04:25] <cotyrothery> it might be awhile so dont disconnect
[04:25] <cotyrothery> lol
[04:25] <cotyrothery> bye
[04:26] <warewolf_> DaSkreech: Fix my problem yet by chance? =P
[04:26] <DaSkreech> warewolf_: I don't know what your problem is
[04:26] <DaSkreech> There you go
[04:27] <warewolf_> wtf? =P
[04:28] <warewolf_> well, installing nvidia-glx works for me in ubuntu just fine... but in kubuntu I'm just sitting at a blinking cursor after restarting the x session
[04:29] <bewl> has anyone come across with the problem of Totem not showing video from wma, but playing sound?
[04:29] <ubuntu> hi,
[04:29] <wiseKid> bewl:did you download the codecs?
[04:29] <neeeded> hi
[04:29] <neeeded> i encounter this problem
[04:29] <bewl> I did download the restricted formats
[04:30] <DaSkreech> warewolf_: how did you install it in each?
[04:30] <neeeded>   kernel panic : not syncing; VFS; Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0) after do dist-upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04
[04:30] <bewl> according to this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[04:30] <DaSkreech> bewl: You need the w32codecs
[04:30] <neeeded> any solutions
[04:30] <bewl> I wasnt able to get anything to play before that.
[04:30] <wiseKid> bewl: install all the codecs from add/remove
[04:30] <bewl> Thanks :)
[04:31] <Joshooa> Why would my wireless card not show up with iwconfig, and then after doing dhclient, and failing, typing iwconfig shows it under ra0?
[04:31] <DaSkreech> !w32
[04:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about w32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:31] <DaSkreech> !w32codecs
[04:31] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[04:31] <neeeded> !kernel panic : not syncing; VFS; Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0)
[04:32] <elijah> ferret, are you there?
[04:33] <ferret_0567> Does anybody know if you can send a file to a Google Talk user from a Google Talk user successfully using Kopete?
[04:34] <neeeded> does anyone here know how to fix this problem
[04:34] <warewolf_> DaSkreech: Synaptic download in ubuntu / Adept download in Kubuntu, sudo nvidia-xconfig in both
[04:34] <neeeded>   kernel panic : not syncing; VFS; Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0)
[04:35] <DaSkreech> warewolf_: try dropping to a VT and running startx
[04:36] <warewolf_> DaSkreech: Will try that next... got a pretty good sized update running at the moment
[04:36] <DaSkreech> ok
[04:42] <NixHex> alright samba problem and neither #ubuntu+1 nor #samba is responding...windows machines are not able to access anything
[04:42] <ubuntu> ok im on live cd
[04:42] <NixHex> it worked in herd 4...but not herd 5, anyone know of anything?
[04:43] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Welcome
[04:43] <cotyrothery> hello
[04:43] <cotyrothery> i like this
[04:43] <cotyrothery> more
[04:43] <neeeded> :(
[04:43] <DaSkreech> what partition did you install on?
[04:43] <cotyrothery> I dont know
[04:43] <cotyrothery> I just erased the whole drive
[04:43] <BluesKaj> oh lordy
[04:43] <cotyrothery> and installed
[04:44] <cotyrothery> I love being on kubuntu
[04:44] <cotyrothery> this is great
[04:44] <cotyrothery> even though it is live cd
[04:44] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: You plugged off the other drive?
[04:45] <cotyrothery> what
[04:45] <cotyrothery> do you mean unplugged
[04:46] <mase> shit.
[04:46] <mase> i tried to install a gnome theme
[04:46] <mase> now my theme selector freezes
[04:46] <mase> and i get all kinds of theme errors on startup
[04:46] <coreymon77> !botsnack
[04:46] <ubotu> Yum!
[04:47] <cotyrothery> daskreeck are you still there
[04:47] <neeeded> is there anybody facing kernel panic problem when dist-upgrade
[04:51] <greg> hello
[04:51] <cotyrothery> DaSkreech are you there
[04:51] <greg>  have a questoin about xorg.conf and it's effect on my refresh rate
[04:51] <mjunx> well ask it :)
[04:51] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: What is on the drive on the system now?
[04:52] <cotyrothery> what do you mean by that
[04:52] <cotyrothery> on the drive on the system?
[04:52] <greg> i can't set my refresh rate higher than 56 Hz
[04:52] <mjunx> in system settings, greg?
[04:52] <greg> but i'm quite sure xorg.conf is properly setup
[04:53] <mjunx> well, you can use gtf to generate a modeline to fix the refresh rate
[04:53] <cotyrothery> DaSkreech what do you mean
[04:53] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: How many hard drives are there in the computer?
[04:53] <greg> gtf?
[04:53] <greg> oh
[04:53] <greg> one moment
[04:53] <cotyrothery> 2
[04:54] <cotyrothery> The main one has 30 GB
[04:54] <cotyrothery> and The Slave has 15 GB
[04:54] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: ok which one are you installing on?
[04:54] <cotyrothery> The Slave
[04:54] <DaSkreech> Alright
[04:54] <DaSkreech> can you mount it for me?
[04:54] <greg> should i sudo gtf? or does it matter?
[04:54] <DaSkreech> !mount
[04:54] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:54] <DaSkreech> :-P
[04:54] <DaSkreech> !ntfs
[04:54] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:55] <cotyrothery> What do you mean can i mount it for you
[04:55] <greg> i did "gtf h-1024 v-768 85"
[04:55] <greg> i paste the output in the "screen" section yes
[04:56] <greg> ?
[04:56] <Gh0st75> i just finished installing sun java 6 jdk, is there a command i have to run after that to enable it?
[04:56] <Gh0st75> i'm using swiftfox btw
[04:56] <greg> or the "screen" subsection?
[04:57] <Mushindo> #ubuntu-es
[04:57] <mjunx> no, the monitor section
[04:57] <cotyrothery> DaSkreech what do you mean by mount
[04:58] <greg> k one moment, testing, i shall return
[04:58] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: can you open a konsole?
[04:58] <greg> both lines of the output, or only the first line?
[04:58] <cotyrothery> Huuu
[04:58] <coreymon77> cotyrothery: in order to acces any media, including hard drives, you have to mount them
[04:58] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Is that  a no? :)
[04:58] <cotyrothery> what is konsole
[04:58] <coreymon77> cotyrothery: terminal window?
[04:58] <cotyrothery> Waaa
[04:59] <cotyrothery> ??
[04:59] <mjunx> cotyrothery, you can see if they're mounted by going to /media in konqueror
[04:59] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: press alt+space
[04:59] <cotyrothery> ok
[04:59] <greg> testing, i shall return
[04:59] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: type konsole
[04:59] <cotyrothery> swwwweeett
[04:59] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: press enter
[04:59] <cotyrothery> what was that
[04:59] <mjunx> katapult
[04:59] <DaSkreech> katapult
[04:59] <DaSkreech> !katapult
[04:59] <ubotu> katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[04:59] <cotyrothery> well it is starting up
[04:59] <mjunx> there's a program for os x like that, I forget what it's called
[04:59] <DaSkreech> Quicksilver
[04:59] <mjunx> yeah, there ya go
[05:00] <cotyrothery> i think it is loading
[05:00] <cotyrothery> im waiting
[05:00] <warewolf_> woohoo.. NVIDIA working now!
[05:00] <cotyrothery> um nothing is happingin
[05:01] <mjunx> what od you mean?
[05:01] <cotyrothery> well i pushed alt+space
[05:01] <cotyrothery> and a box poped up
[05:01] <coreymon77>
[05:01] <cotyrothery> and then disappeared
[05:01] <coreymon77> its called katapult
[05:01] <deathnote> why when i try to apt-get install build-essential
[05:01] <deathnote> i get
[05:01] <deathnote> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:01] <deathnote>   build-essential: Depends: libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed or
[05:01] <deathnote>                             libc-dev
[05:01] <deathnote>                    Depends: g++ (>= 4:4.1.1) but it is not going to be installed
[05:01] <deathnote> E: Broken packages
[05:01] <mjunx> press alt+space, then start typing
[05:02] <coreymon77> type alt+space
[05:02] <cotyrothery> ok
[05:02] <mjunx> deathnote, apt-get -f install
[05:02] <coreymon77>  them type konsole
[05:02] <itazuki> tested no good
[05:02] <coreymon77> and press enter
[05:02] <deathnote> mjunx: same
[05:02] <cotyrothery> oh
[05:02] <cotyrothery> now i see
[05:02] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Whoot! :)
[05:02] <mjunx> oh, deathnote, apt-get update, then try again
[05:02] <itazuki> now when i go to "System Settings" and then "Monitors and Display the module cannot be loaded
[05:02] <cotyrothery> cool
[05:02] <cotyrothery> i love kubuntu
[05:03] <DaSkreech> deathnote: try apt-get update first
[05:03] <itazuki> and when i use krandrtray it's still 56Hz max
[05:03] <DaSkreech> :-)
[05:03] <coreymon77> cotyrothery: yoou have just discovered the konsole
[05:03] <cotyrothery> ok
[05:03] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: ok in konsole type mkdir test
[05:03] <cotyrothery> now what
[05:03] <itazuki> i pasted this in
[05:03] <deathnote> i did update grade and dist-upgrade
[05:03] <cotyrothery> ok
[05:03] <coreymon77> cotyrothery: you are now on your way to becoming a true linux genius
[05:03] <deathnote> doing again
[05:03] <itazuki> nvrmind
[05:03] <itazuki> i won't paste it in
[05:04] <itazuki> but yeah, i put in the 2 lines outputted by gtf
[05:04] <cotyrothery> ok did it
[05:04] <cotyrothery> now what
[05:04] <mjunx> hmm, I think there's more to it than I was saying
[05:04] <mjunx> try doing dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:04] <cotyrothery> i cant wait to become a linux genius
[05:04] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: going to teach you about tab completion :)
[05:04] <cotyrothery> This is great
[05:04] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: type ls
[05:04] <cotyrothery> alright
[05:04] <mjunx> should let you change the resolutions/refreshrates/etc
[05:04] <DaSkreech> you should see the directory test
[05:04] <cotyrothery> that means list right
[05:04] <mjunx> yeah
[05:04] <Gh0st75> anyone able to get java pages working in swiftfox using sun java 6?
[05:05] <cotyrothery> ok
[05:05] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Yes
[05:05] <cotyrothery> i have desktop an
[05:05] <cotyrothery> test
[05:05] <deathnote> it still doesn't work..
[05:05] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: ok type sudo mount /dev/hd<tab><tab>
[05:05] <mjunx> okay now type "touch foo"
[05:05] <cotyrothery> which one
[05:05] <mjunx> uh, his thing
[05:05] <cotyrothery> ok
[05:05] <mjunx> I won't budge in on the tutoring lol
[05:05] <DaSkreech> WHich one?
[05:06] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: It should give you a list of the /dev/hd devices
[05:06] <mjunx> so would ls /dev/hd*
[05:06] <cotyrothery> it gave me an error
[05:06] <cotyrothery> i typed
[05:06] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: What error?
[05:06] <cotyrothery> sudo mount /dev/he<tab><tab>
[05:06] <coreymon77> hd
[05:07] <cotyrothery> that is what i typed
[05:07] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: the <tab> <tab> means perss tab twice :)
[05:07] <coreymon77> cotyrothery: and did you press enter after that
[05:07] <cotyrothery> ok
[05:07] <DaSkreech> and it's hd
[05:07] <coreymon77> cause you shoouldnt
[05:07] <cotyrothery> ok that worked
[05:07] <cotyrothery> now what
[05:07] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: You got a list of drives?
[05:07] <cotyrothery> yes
[05:07] <DaSkreech> like hda1 hda2 ?
[05:08] <cotyrothery> yep
[05:08] <DaSkreech> ok do you have a set like hdb1 ?
[05:08] <cotyrothery> yes
[05:08] <Gh0st75> do i need to install anything other than sun-java6-jdk in order to view java pages in swiftfox?
[05:08] <mjunx> nope, Gh0st75
[05:08] <DaSkreech> ok continue typing b1 test
[05:08] <mjunx> oh wait yeah
[05:08] <mjunx> sun-java6-plugin
[05:08] <DaSkreech> so you should have sudo mount /dev/hdb1 test
[05:09] <_Daisuke_Ido_> eventually i'll figure out why pcsx registers a button press on my gamepad as a few dozen button presses
[05:09] <Gh0st75> ah, that's what i was missin
[05:09] <cotyrothery> type b1 test?
[05:09] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: so you should have sudo mount /dev/hdb1 test
[05:09] <cotyrothery> It gave an error
[05:09] <cotyrothery> command not found
[05:09] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: sudo mount /dev/hdb1 test
[05:10] <cotyrothery> ok
[05:10] <cotyrothery> did it now what
[05:10] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: worked?
[05:10] <DaSkreech> ls test
[05:10] <cotyrothery> ok i have a list
[05:10] <cotyrothery> a big one
[05:11] <deathnote> it still doesn't work! i stil can't install build-essential
[05:11] <matrix> is kbear no more in efty? and why is that?
[05:11] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: does it have bin etc and var ?
[05:11] <Gh0st75> mjunx: hmm, still can't view java sites
[05:11] <deathnote> but i can install other packages
[05:11] <cotyrothery> yes
[05:11] <DaSkreech> ok
[05:11] <DaSkreech> !grub
[05:11] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:11] <mjunx> Gh0st75, restart your browser
[05:11] <Gh0st75> did that
[05:11] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: You need the first link :)
[05:12] <cotyrothery> ok
[05:12] <Gh0st75> and sun's java is set as the default, already verified that in terminal
[05:12] <deathnote> how to fix this apt-get problem? my souces.list are ok
[05:12] <mjunx> you using konqueror or firefox or what?
[05:12] <Gh0st75> swiftfox
[05:12] <Gh0st75> 32 bit version
[05:13] <cotyrothery> it might take awhile for that to load
[05:13] <mjunx> er, what's swiftfox? lol
[05:13] <cotyrothery> with it being live cd
[05:13] <Gh0st75> it's an optimized version of firefox
[05:13] <Gh0st75> noticeably faster
[05:14] <mjunx> well, it's not too hard to compile it from source with -O3 and whatnot
[05:14] <cotyrothery> ok im on the site
[05:15] <cotyrothery> now what should i look for
[05:16] <deathnote> why when i try to apt-get install build-essential i get errors?
[05:16] <cotyrothery> what do i do now that im on that site
[05:16] <mjunx> I don't know, deathnote, sorry
[05:17] <mjunx> what site?
[05:17] <cotyrothery> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[05:17] <deathnote> !build-essential
[05:17] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:18] <cotyrothery> DaSkreech what do i do now
[05:18] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: have you read the site?
[05:18] <cotyrothery> Working on it
[05:19] <Gh0st75> hmm, looks like java is working for konqueror, just not for swiftfox
[05:19] <cotyrothery> I dont understand it to wel
[05:19] <cotyrothery> well
[05:19] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Ok poke me where you have problems
[05:19] <cotyrothery> um all of it
[05:19] <cotyrothery> lol
[05:20] <Olvidame> Bye all... nos vemos.
[05:20] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: ha ha :)
[05:20] <cotyrothery> Im so confused
[05:21] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Do you understand what the first subheadnig is saying?
[05:22] <cotyrothery> nope
[05:23] <DaSkreech> It's asking if you would like linux setup so you can still boot into windows
[05:23] <cotyrothery> i dont want to boot into window
[05:23] <cotyrothery> s
[05:23] <cotyrothery> Windows Sux
[05:23] <cotyrothery> im sick of it
[05:24] <mjunx> heh you sound like my friend
[05:24] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: nevertheless :) we should keep that around in case :)
[05:24] <cotyrothery> Um why?
[05:25] <cotyrothery> I dont plan on getting rid of it
[05:25] <DaSkreech> Windows? Well that's why you still need the option of booting into it
[05:25] <cotyrothery> I will
[05:26] <cotyrothery> im not going to install kubuntu on the same drive
[05:26] <cotyrothery> so how will it affect it
[05:26] <DaSkreech> It can
[05:26] <DaSkreech> Ok
[05:26] <cotyrothery> alright
[05:26] <DaSkreech> in konsole  type sudo -i
[05:26] <cotyrothery> ok
[05:27] <DaSkreech> type grub
[05:27] <cotyrothery> which one
[05:27] <cotyrothery> grub
[05:27] <cotyrothery> or
[05:27] <cotyrothery> sudo -i
[05:27] <DaSkreech> first one then the other
[05:28] <itazuki> i did sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:28] <cotyrothery> ok
[05:28] <itazuki> testing...one moment please
[05:29] <Gh0st75> anyone else here use swiftfox?
[05:29] <Gh0st75> i had this working before my most recent kubuntu reinstall, tho for the life of me i don't remember how
[05:29] <cotyrothery> nothing is coming up
[05:29] <DaSkreech> for grub?
[05:29] <cotyrothery> no
[05:29] <cotyrothery> the
[05:30] <cotyrothery> sudo -i
[05:30] <NixHex> Gh0st75: I use swiftfox
[05:30] <bill> hello. I am using gaim beta6...and just testing the invisible mode. if I were to give someone my aim screename can someone check if I am invisible or not?
[05:30] <cotyrothery> i hit enter
[05:30] <cotyrothery> and i get nothing
[05:30] <greg> tested...no help
[05:30] <Gh0st75> NixHex: you have any trouble getting java to work?
[05:30] <mjunx> bill, sure
[05:30] <NixHex> Gh0st75: 64bit os?
[05:30] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: does your prompt have # in it now?
[05:30] <Gh0st75> 64bit os but i chose the 32 bit install script from the swiftfox site
[05:31] <bill> mjunx: amfibeus
[05:31] <NixHex> Gh0st75: don't use the script, use the DEB
[05:31] <cotyrothery> what prompt
[05:31] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: in konsole
[05:31] <bill> mjunx: I guess just add me to your buddylist
[05:31] <DaSkreech> the thing before the cursor
[05:31] <Gh0st75> swiftfox insalled fine, just can't get java workin
[05:31] <mjunx> bill, I don't see you online, so it seems to work
[05:31] <bill> ok how about now?
[05:31] <cotyrothery> it get sudo -int(0)
[05:32] <NixHex> Gh0st75: you need to link the the plugin to your mozilla plugin directories
[05:32] <Gh0st75> right
[05:32] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Sorry. What?
[05:32] <Gh0st75> do you know the command for that?
[05:32] <cotyrothery> when i type sudo -i
[05:32] <cotyrothery> i get
[05:32] <Gh0st75> google isn't turnin up much
[05:32] <cotyrothery> sudo -int(0)
[05:33] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: can you type sudo ls test
[05:33] <cotyrothery> were
[05:33] <DaSkreech> In konsole
[05:33] <cotyrothery> i get nothing
[05:34] <DaSkreech> type pwd
[05:34] <cotyrothery> ok
[05:34] <NixHex> Gh0st75: yeah "sudo ln -s *path to plugin* *path of mozilla plugin folder*
[05:34] <cotyrothery> i still get nothing
[05:35] <mjunx> mkdir ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[05:35] <DaSkreech> nothing?
[05:35] <cotyrothery> not in konsole
[05:35] <DaSkreech> type which pwd
[05:35] <mjunx> ln -s path/to/whatever.so ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[05:35] <cotyrothery> your losing me
[05:35] <cotyrothery> what do you mean
[05:35] <Gh0st75> so there isn't a mozilla plugin dir by default?
[05:35] <NixHex> Gh0st75: there are several
[05:36] <DaSkreech> type which pwd
[05:36] <DaSkreech> exactly that
[05:36] <mjunx> isn't pwd a built-in command?
[05:36] <mjunx> oh, guess not
[05:36] <mjunx> should be /bin/pwd
[05:36] <cotyrothery> i typed pwd
[05:36] <mjunx> type "which pwd"
[05:36] <mjunx> he said to do
[05:36] <nonuda_> stdin, hello how r u?
[05:36] <cotyrothery> what is pwd
[05:37] <DaSkreech> Print working Directory
[05:37] <DaSkreech> it tells you where you are
[05:37] <cotyrothery> ok
[05:37] <DaSkreech> if it's not giving you an answer something is very very wrong
[05:37] <NixHex> Gh0st75: what I did was have all the plugins in a single folder and then link that folder to the other directories
[05:37] <cotyrothery> so i should type
[05:37] <greg> if you'd like to see my xorg.conf visit this link: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-545439-highlight-.html
[05:37] <cotyrothery> pwd
[05:38] <nonuda_> stdin, t u there?
[05:38] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: You said you did and it does not give you an answer?
[05:38] <cotyrothery> that is right
[05:38] <Gh0st75> tryin to locate the paths there now
[05:38] <cotyrothery> i type pwd
[05:38] <cotyrothery> and i get nothing
[05:39] <NixHex> Gh0st75: so the command I used was "sudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins ~/.mozilla/"
[05:39] <cotyrothery> what could be wrong
[05:39] <NixHex> Gh0st75: you have one plugin fulder in your home directory and then 2-3 in the "/usr/lib/"
[05:39] <Gh0st75> ok
[05:39] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: type which pwd
[05:40] <mjunx> NixHex, no sudo
[05:40] <cotyrothery> what do you mean which pwd
[05:40] <cotyrothery> i typed "pwd
[05:40] <cotyrothery> that is it
[05:40] <mjunx> cotyrothery, type "which pwd"
[05:40] <mjunx> it's an entire command
[05:40] <cotyrothery> oh
[05:40] <mjunx> which is a program
[05:40] <cotyrothery> i still got nothing
[05:41] <mjunx> press ctrl-c
[05:41] <mjunx> then try agian
[05:41] <cotyrothery> what is ctrl-c
[05:41] <nonuda_> stdin, i have installed kubuntu in my laptop hdd using another pc, and i have put it back to my laptop, but when i turn on the laptop and start kubuntu, it wont start normaly, it start in konsole mode..why? how do i start it normally?
[05:41] <mjunx> kills the program you have running on the terminal
[05:41] <cotyrothery> it did nothing
[05:42] <cotyrothery> did you mean
[05:42] <mjunx> it should put you back into a $ prompt
[05:42] <cotyrothery> ctrl+c
[05:42] <mjunx> yeah
[05:42] <mjunx> same thing
[05:42] <cotyrothery> im not on the prompt
[05:42] <cotyrothery> oh
[05:42] <cotyrothery> oh
[05:42] <cotyrothery> oh
[05:42] <cotyrothery> How stupid of me
[05:42] <mjunx> lol
[05:42] <cotyrothery> im an idiot
[05:43] <cotyrothery> ok now what
[05:43] <jarn> Konqueror can't start the cookie handler service.
[05:43] <cotyrothery> I cant beleive that
[05:43] <mjunx> jarn, log out and back in then
[05:43] <cotyrothery> i was pressing alt+space
[05:43] <mjunx> and make sure your packages are all updated
[05:43] <jarn> mjunx: No way to do it without logging out?
[05:44] <cotyrothery> and typeing it on katapult
[05:44] <mjunx> jarn, well, you could try "killall konqueror"
[05:44] <mjunx> and start again
[05:44] <cotyrothery> What do i do now that i typed wich pwd
[05:44] <mjunx> what does it say?
[05:45] <cotyrothery> "/bin/pwd
[05:45] <cotyrothery> is that what it is supposed to say
[05:45] <mjunx> okay, I don't know where he was going with it, so ask him again
[05:45] <mjunx> yeah
[05:45] <cotyrothery> ok
[05:46] <cotyrothery> are you there DaSkreech
[05:46] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: yeah
[05:46] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: but pwd doesn't give you anything?
[05:46] <cotyrothery> i was typing whcih pwd in the wrong place
[05:46] <cotyrothery> ya it gave me /bin/pwd
[05:46] <neptunepink> Is there a way to turn the display upside down?
[05:47] <DaSkreech> Do you have A # IN YOUR prompt?
[05:47] <Minataku> neptunepink: Lift monitor, rotate, place back on desk
[05:47] <cotyrothery> no
[05:47] <mjunx> neptunepink, via xrandr, yeah
[05:47] <nonuda_> my kubuntu start in konsole mode, how do i make it start normally?
[05:48] <flaccid> what is konsole mode?
[05:48] <mjunx> probably the tty1 prompt thing
[05:48] <neptunepink> mjunx: thanks, Minataku: finger
[05:48] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: try sudo -i again
[05:48] <cotyrothery> ok
[05:48] <Dr_willis> Console Mode?
[05:48] <cotyrothery> ok now i do
[05:48] <Minataku> neptunepink: Sorry, just a joke since I did't know
[05:48] <Dr_willis> you mean no X.  the normal 'console' :)
[05:48] <nonuda_> i mean i'm in like in the dos environment
[05:49] <neptunepink> :b
[05:49] <nonuda_> yes
[05:49] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: ok type grub
[05:49] <cotyrothery> ok
[05:49] <Dr_willis> nonuda_,  thats the 'console' not Konsole. :)
[05:49] <nonuda_> Oh i see
[05:49] <cotyrothery> it says this could take a long time
[05:49] <mjunx> no, it's terminal lol
[05:49] <nonuda_> Dr_Willis. then how do i fix it?
[05:49] <mjunx> well, log in your name
[05:49] <Dr_willis> nonuda_,  try 'startx' and see if any error messages show up. When did it break?
[05:49] <nonuda_> ok..
[05:49] <mjunx> then type "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"
[05:49] <Dr_willis> yea.. login. :) then 'startx'
[05:50] <cotyrothery> ok now what
[05:50] <Dr_willis> im betting the X configs or drivers or somthing got messed.
[05:50] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: type find /boot/grub/stage1
[05:50] <Dr_willis> !iso
[05:50] <nonuda_> ok..it start...hmm i told it will never been so easy...thanks..
[05:50] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[05:50] <cotyrothery> ok
[05:50] <cotyrothery> did it
[05:51] <Minataku> neptunepink: Sorry >.<
[05:51] <cotyrothery> now what
[05:51] <neptunepink> it's okay. ^_^
[05:51] <Gh0st75> thanks NixHex, looks like it's working now :)
[05:51] <greg> any other ideas regarding my refresh rate mjunx?
[05:51] <mjunx> oh, link me to your xorg.conf again
[05:51] <nonuda_> Dr_Willis, i was installing kubuntu in a different machine..
[05:52] <greg> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-545439.html
[05:52] <cotyrothery> now what do i do
[05:52] <mjunx> greg, add the gtf output to the monitors section
[05:53] <cotyrothery> DaSkreech what do i do now
[05:53] <nonuda_> Dr_Willis, how to tell kubuntu to detect my laptop hardware and install its driver?
[05:53] <DaSkreech> What did it say?
[05:54] <cotyrothery> GNU GRUB  version 0.97  (640K lower / 3072K upper memory)
[05:54] <underzr0> Hello
[05:54] <greg> earlier i did gtf h-1024 v-768 85 and added the 2 lines that outputted to the monitors section
[05:54] <cotyrothery>        [ Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported.   For
[05:54] <cotyrothery>          the   first   word,  TAB  lists  possible  command
[05:54] <cotyrothery>          completions.  Anywhere else TAB lists the possible
[05:54] <cotyrothery>          completions of a device/filename. ]
[05:54] <cotyrothery> grub> find /boot/grub/stage1
[05:54] <cotyrothery>  (hd1,0)
[05:54] <cotyrothery> grub>
[05:54] <cotyrothery> That is what it says
[05:54] <greg> when i did the monitor section under system settings could load the module
[05:54] <NixHex> Gh0st75: good...trying to get samba working in feisty herd5...for some reason its not working even with no errors
[05:54] <underzr0> HELLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[05:54] <greg> and krandrtray still gave a max refresh of 56Hz
[05:55] <mjunx> then add the mode name it gives to the screens section (put before the "1024x768" bit)
[05:55] <Gh0st75> feisty sounds good from what i hear, lots of nice new features
[05:55] <NixHex> Gh0st75: yeah its awesome..just right now some things have their issues
[05:55] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Ok look at step 5 on the site
[05:55] <underzr0> anybody here go to http://nexgenwars.com?
[05:56] <mjunx> man, I installed beagle a few days ago, and I swear, it's still not done indexing everything
[05:56] <cotyrothery> so i type root (hd0,3)
[05:56] <Gh0st75> yeah, i'm waiting til it's stable before i take the plunge
[05:56] <underzr0> or places like: http://ongata.nanotechcorp.net ?
[05:56] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: no you type root (what ever it spat back at you)
[05:56] <cotyrothery> ok
[05:56] <Gh0st75> this is my only OS now that i've scrapped Vista
[05:56] <greg> so before the line beginning with  Modes           "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" ?
[05:57] <Gh0st75> so i need it to be stable
[05:57] <cotyrothery> ok did it
[05:57] <nonuda_> anybody?
[05:57] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: move on to step 6 :)
[05:57] <cotyrothery> thsi is what i got
[05:57] <cotyrothery> Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83
[05:57] <greg>  so before the line beginning with  'Modes           "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"' ?
[05:58] <nonuda_> Dr_willis?
[05:58] <underzr0> http://ongata.nanotechcorp.net and http://nexgenwars.com are good places
[05:58] <NixHex> Gh0st75: yeah, vista is a joke, I'm sticking with winXP for my windows machines
[05:58] <cotyrothery> alright did that
[05:58] <mjunx> no, greg, put "1280x800_60.00" or whatever before "1024x768"
[05:58] <mjunx> but after Modes
[05:58] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: 7 and 8 :)
[05:58] <cotyrothery> ok
[05:58] <Dr_willis> nonuda_, ?
[05:58] <greg> gotcha
[05:58] <Gh0st75> when i get my macbook later the spring, i'll be giving this desktop with kubuntu to my folks, and putting a kubuntu partition on the mac
[05:59] <cotyrothery> so i need to restart
[05:59] <nonuda_> Dr_willis, how to make kubuntu detect my hardware and installed all over again?
[05:59] <cotyrothery> what will happen if i do restart
[05:59] <Dr_willis> nonuda_,  what did you do that made X stop working? you proberly just need to reconfogure your X server
[05:59] <mjunx> oh, I found something greg
[06:00] <mjunx> !resolution | greg
[06:00] <ubotu> greg: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:00] <greg> does it all have to be on one line?
[06:00] <mjunx> yeah
[06:00] <mjunx> but check that article
[06:00] <underzr0> I'm totally telling the truth. http://ongata.nanotechcorp.net and http://nexgenwars.com are really good places
[06:00] <NixHex> Gh0st75: good luck with that..I personally don't mind mac too much and its based of linux/unix...(don't remember specifics)
[06:00] <cotyrothery> DaSkreech
[06:00] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Yep
[06:00] <cotyrothery> what will happen when i restart
[06:01] <mjunx> xnu is a bsd/mach hybrid
[06:01] <underzr0> People are ignoring me :'(
[06:01] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Hopefully it should work
[06:01] <nonuda_> Dr_willis, i was installing kubuntu using another pc..
[06:01] <mjunx> and darwin is made up of bsd userland (along with some gnu)
[06:01] <cotyrothery> ok
[06:01] <cotyrothery> im restarting
[06:01] <Dr_willis> nonuda_,  'using' ?
[06:01] <DaSkreech> Otherwise I'll reqalk you through the setup
[06:01] <Gh0st75> yeah, i need something that "just works" without needing alot of time or tinkering, but will keep a boot of this on there for when i DO have time to tinker
[06:01] <bonbonthejon> underzr0: you were shouting before, what is your problem
[06:02] <bonbonthejon> Gh0st75: i think dealing with the mess with windows takes more time that linux
[06:03] <nonuda_> Dr_willis, yup, i take my hdd laptop and put it on another pc to install kubuntu, and now i put it back to my laptop..
[06:03] <Gh0st75> lol, i would have over a year uptime with xp, i'm on my 8th install of kubuntu in 6 months
[06:04] <bonbonthejon> Gh0st75: year uptime with XP? or do you mean a year of XP without reinstalling?
[06:04] <Dr_willis> nonuda_,  hmm... icky. :) heh.. I guess ya need to a dpkg-reconfigure xorg (or somtning) to get X set up right.
[06:04] <Gh0st75> a year uptime without needing to restart
[06:04] <nonuda_> how to do that?
[06:05] <Hasrat_USA> um may be ubuntu/kubuntu isn't for you
[06:05] <Gh0st75> other than when i'd do windows updates, but never had to restart cause of problems
[06:05] <mjunx> well, your max uptime in windows is basically 31 days or so
[06:06] <Hasrat_USA> hell my beryl's uptime is 4 months lol
[06:06] <gansinho> hello, I am using adept to do an ordinary upgrade when it announces that there is a dist upgrade to feisty and warning me that it is a "development snapshot" I have two questions about it, is it safe to just upgrade? if I upgrade, after the final release is launch I'll be able to download and install the stable versions without problem?
[06:06] <mjunx> because of patch tuesday and the "critical" updates
[06:06] <underzr0> http://ongata.nanotechcorp.net and http://nexgenwars.com are great places to sign up to :D
[06:06] <bonbonthejon> !feisty | gansinho
[06:06] <ubotu> gansinho: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[06:06] <mjunx> gansinho, yeah, you'll be able to upgrade, and it's kinda stable
[06:06] <Dr_willis> nonuda_,  id have to say check the wiki/forums/docs - ive never had to reconfogure the sound server or X server that way
[06:06] <Dr_willis> !xorg
[06:06] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:06] <Gh0st75> my reasons for switching are many, tho the fact that windows is so targetted and requires so much preventative maintenance.....it almost equals the time i spend tinkering in linux to get things working
[06:06] <Hasrat_USA> i wont upgrade to Feisty that quickly :P
[06:07] <gansinho> mjunx: it has the new KDE version?
[06:07] <gansinho> KDE 4?
[06:07] <mjunx> gansinho, no, you gotta get that from kubuntu.org
[06:07] <mjunx> !kde4
[06:07] <ubotu> For information on KDE 4 (not to be released for quite some time yet), see: http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/kde4.html. Also worth checking are: appeal/phonon/plasma/solid.kde.org
[06:07] <bonbonthejon> gansinho: 3.5.6 is the most recent kde
[06:07] <mjunx> there we go
[06:07] <Hasrat_USA> what is it that you're having problem with ghost?
[06:07] <lupo> buon giorno nn trovo i pacchetti x breyl su synaptic o adept come devo fare?
[06:07] <gansinho> thanks guys!
[06:07] <bonbonthejon> !it | lupo
[06:07] <ubotu> lupo: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:08] <Gh0st75> in Kubuntu? nothing at the moment
[06:08] <Hasrat_USA> then why are you saying that you are having to reinstall it often?
[06:08] <Gh0st75> pretty much everything i need to do on my desktop i'm able to get working
[06:08] <Gh0st75> well i've learned a bit each time i've reinstalled it
[06:09] <nonuda_> Oh ok then...another question, in system setting-monitor & display tab hardware, graphics card using vesa, i was trying to change from vesa into ati rage mobile, but it always back use vesa..why?
[06:09] <Gh0st75> most of my problems have been no access to adept, java plugins, corrupted grub
[06:09] <Hasrat_USA> lol i learn some weird s*** every day
[06:09] <underzr0> http://ongata.nanotechcorp.net and http://nexgenwars.com are cool places :D
[06:09] <Hasrat_USA> corrupted grub damn! i don't know how people confront or reproduce that problem
[06:10] <greg> yeah i've already checked that article, i just tried the thing at the bottom under the header "You use the "nvidia" driver (Binary drivers"
[06:10] <greg> but it didn't help
[06:10] <Gh0st75> well the corrupted grub is more a fault of windows than linux, i've learned that if i want to use both, windows needs to go on first, then linux second
[06:10] <underzr0> http://ongata.nanotechcorp.net/forum/ is a good place to ask for a signature
[06:10] <greg> it made it worse cuz x didn't start
[06:10] <underzr0> :D
[06:10] <Hasrat_USA> you installed/ran any eye-candy yet ghost?
[06:10] <bonbonthejon> Gh0st75: do you now know that its better to instal windows first, then let linux figure stuff out
[06:11] <Gh0st75> nope, haven't messed with desktop customization much yet, am curious about what can be done tho, particularly things like beryl
[06:11] <bonbonthejon> yeah, setting up eyecandy can lead to problems
[06:11] <underzr0> http://ongata.nanotechcorp.net/forum/
[06:12] <Gh0st75> is there a way to make a "last known good" snapshot of my os so i can restore to that point if i fubar it?
[06:12] <Gh0st75> i've heard beryl is no walk in the park
[06:12] <greg> the odd thing is that when i'm at the login screen for kde the refresh rate seems ok and then once i login it changes and gets to 56Hz
[06:12] <ubuntu> it did not work
[06:12] <greg> this happens to all users including root
[06:12] <bonbonthejon> Gh0st75: there is plenty of ways to customize standard kde, if you want stable
[06:13] <cotyrothery> I still get no operating system
[06:13] <bonbonthejon> Gh0st75: I assume you mean like in windows? not that i know of
[06:13] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Ok does the installer ever ask you where you want grub?
[06:13] <Hasrat_USA> "yeah, setting up eyecandy can lead to problems" no it can't
[06:13] <greg> is xorg.conf the only file that affects your refresh rate?
[06:13] <Admiral_Chicago> hello everyone.
[06:13] <Gh0st75> i notice when i boot into kubunto now i get two boot options, the second one appearing after the first major set of updates after the fresh install of edgy
[06:13] <cotyrothery> ok so you want me to reinstall
[06:14] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: Hello. cotyrothery is havign grub issues
[06:14] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: apparently it doesn't exist after install
[06:14] <Hasrat_USA> ghost beryl can change the way you think about OS. it can make you realize how seriously flawed windows Vista is
[06:14] <bonbonthejon> Hasrat_USA: when i tried beryl and compiz, i couldnt get it to work, and I was stuck with a white screen, luckily i knew ways to get back
[06:14] <bonbonthejon> hi Admiral_Chicago
[06:14] <greg> i should mention that i added a beryl repo and ran updates when this happened
[06:14] <Hasrat_USA> bonbonthejon: define compiz. and what's your video card?
[06:14] <Gh0st75> oh i can believe that Hasrat, i saw a matrix desktop clip on youtoob, it looks like it has amazing potential
[06:15] <cotyrothery> I cant wait to get this working
[06:15] <bonbonthejon> !compiz | Hasrat_USA
[06:15] <ubotu> Hasrat_USA: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:15] <underzr0> Yo! go here: http://ongata.nanotechcorp.net
[06:15] <Hasrat_USA> i'm on beryl right now. it's a roller coaster
[06:15] <cotyrothery> bare with me please
[06:15] <nonuda_> !x server
[06:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:15] <Gh0st75> i'm running an ati 9600 pro on this old thing
[06:16] <bonbonthejon> Hasrat_USA: card is ATI Technologies Inc Radeon IGP 330M/340M/350M
[06:16] <Hasrat_USA> duh ati
[06:16] <Admiral_Chicago> cotyrothery: Super Grub Disk?
[06:16] <cotyrothery> what
[06:16] <killer> I just installed 6.10 and I still have the same problem that existed in 6.01, my computer clock is correct, but unbuntu is making a worthless assumption that I live in the past about 6 hours, the install never asked about UTC, how do I turn it off?
[06:16] <underzr0> http://ongata.nanotechcorp.net/forum/
[06:16] <cotyrothery> what is super grub disk
[06:16] <Hasrat_USA> rules for installing beryl if you have ati is so different than the rules you need to know if yours is a nvidia
[06:17] <Gh0st75> truthfully, i regret ever getting an ati card
[06:17] <Hasrat_USA> i'm not sure but i think i'm using beryl and xgl
[06:17] <underzr0> http://ongata.nanotechcorp.net/forum/
[06:17] <Admiral_Chicago> #ubuntu-effets is a good channel for desktop help Hasrat_USA && Gh0st75
[06:17] <bonbonthejon> the ati was built-in to my laptop, i have no contorl over that
[06:17] <Gh0st75> when i used to game on this box every game posted better driver updates and specs for nvidia cards
[06:17] <Admiral_Chicago> cotyrothery: its a cd that helps do a lot of grub work
[06:17] <Hasrat_USA> and i set the rendering platform to draw resources directly from my card
[06:17] <cotyrothery> i dont have it
[06:17] <underzr0> http://ongata.nanotechcorp.net/forum/
[06:17] <Hasrat_USA> lol okay admiral sorry
[06:18] <cotyrothery> I have no idea what grub is
[06:18] <greg> does anyone know if any other files besides xorg.conf affect refresh rate on monitor?
[06:18] <cotyrothery> all im tring to do is to get kubuntu to work
[06:18] <bonbonthejon> underzr0: stop repeating that, youve said that already
[06:18] <underzr0> Kubuntu is easy to get working
[06:18] <Gh0st75> anyhoo, eyecandy is an adventure for another day, 1:49 am here now and i have to work tomorrow
[06:18] <cotyrothery> after i install and restart it tells me i have no operating system
[06:18] <Admiral_Chicago> Hasrat_USA: just better resources
[06:18] <Gh0st75> night all, thanks again for all the help
[06:18] <underzr0> cya
[06:18] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: I think the issue may be that grub is not getting installed on the MBR
[06:19] <underzr0> your welcome
[06:19] <underzr0> :P
[06:19] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: your windows partition is on /dev/hda1 right?
[06:19] <underzr0> I need people to join my website :(
[06:20] <underzr0> anybody want to join it?
[06:20] <cotyrothery> ya
[06:20] <underzr0> http://ongata.nanotechcorp.net/forum/
[06:20] <Admiral_Chicago> underzr0: this isn't the place for it. this is a kubuntu support channel
[06:20] <Admiral_Chicago> please stop
[06:20] <underzr0> i'm done
[06:20] <greg> man my eyes hurt
[06:20] <cotyrothery> So i do have the OS on my system
[06:20] <underzr0> sorry, i'm just pissed because no matter what i do i can't get a fucking person to join my site
[06:20] <cotyrothery> it just does not know i have it
[06:21] <cotyrothery> is that correct
[06:21] <Admiral_Chicago> !language | underzr0
[06:21] <ubotu> underzr0: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:21] <Dr_willis> join a web site?
[06:21] <underzr0> forum
[06:21] <Dr_willis> juse what we need another forum :)
[06:22] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: It's there . The BIOS doesn't know how to get to it
[06:22] <cotyrothery> ok
[06:22] <underzr0> ill shut up if you join :D
[06:22] <cotyrothery> so then we need to get that working
[06:23] <greg> does anyone know if any other files besides xorg.conf affect refresh rate on monitor?
[06:23] <Admiral_Chicago> greg: nope
[06:23] <greg> dang
[06:23] <Admiral_Chicago> maybe sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will help
[06:23] <greg> already tried
[06:23] <Admiral_Chicago> hmmm
[06:23] <Admiral_Chicago> !X
[06:23] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:23] <Admiral_Chicago> anything in there?
[06:24] <greg> checked that too :P
[06:24] <greg> heh
[06:24] <Admiral_Chicago> dang.
[06:24] <deathnote>   libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (= 2.4-1ubuntu12) but 2.4-1ubuntu12.1 is to be installed <-- what does it mean???????
[06:24] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm not sure how to help then....
[06:24] <deathnote> my apt-get
[06:24] <deathnote> i'm trying to apt-get install build-essential
[06:24] <Admiral_Chicago> deathnote: means that libc6-dev depends on a version lower than the one you have installed
[06:25] <Admiral_Chicago> may be a compiling isse
[06:25] <deathnote> ic
[06:25] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm.
[06:25] <deathnote> what can i do? apt-get remove libc6-dev ?
[06:25] <cotyrothery> so how will i get bios to find kubuntu
[06:25] <cotyrothery> at start up
[06:25] <underzr0> Somebody signed up with email fake at hotmail dot com
[06:25] <deathnote> building other packages seems to be ok.. except for this
[06:25] <deathnote> build-essential
[06:25] <greg> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-545439.html
[06:25] <greg> my xorg.conf
[06:26] <Admiral_Chicago> deathnote: i'd unistall that, install build-essential, then reinstall it
[06:26] <underzr0> Well since somebody signed up, ill see ya'll later
[06:26] <cotyrothery> so admiral_chicago do you know how to fix
[06:26] <cotyrothery> this problem i have
[06:27] <Admiral_Chicago> cotyrothery: i'd install grub again. not sure how to help since I don't know your computer set up
[06:27] <greg> hehhehehe, i signed up, but i won't validate :P
[06:27] <deathnote> Admiral_Chicago: uninstall libc6 ?
[06:27] <Admiral_Chicago> greg: composite?
[06:27] <Admiral_Chicago> deathnote: yea
[06:27] <greg> comment it out?
[06:28] <cotyrothery> so should i just completely reinstall
[06:28] <Admiral_Chicago> greg: no i mean do you run it
[06:28] <greg> i have translucent windows and fade effects
[06:28] <Admiral_Chicago> cotyrothery: no, i'd download the super grub disk and burn it...not sure how you would do that
[06:28] <deathnote> Admiral_Chicago: i don't have libc-dev or libc6-dev installed
[06:28] <greg> but nothing really profound
[06:28] <greg> this problem...
[06:28] <cotyrothery> i dont have a burner
[06:28] <deathnote>   build-essential: Depends: libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed or
[06:28] <deathnote>                             libc-dev
[06:28] <deathnote>                    Depends: g++ (>= 4:4.1.1) but it is not going to be installed
[06:28] <deathnote> E: Broken packages
[06:28] <Admiral_Chicago> deathnote: sudo apt-get build-dep build-essential...
[06:28] <greg> started happening yesterday after i considered useing beryl and added beryl repos
[06:28] <deathnote> i've done apt-get update and checked my sources.list
[06:28] <greg> and then adept updated...
[06:29] <cotyrothery> I guess i should give up
[06:29] <greg> and now my refresh rate can't be set higher than 56Hz
[06:29] <deathnote> E: Build-dependencies for build-essential could not be satisfied.
[06:29] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Wait
[06:29] <DaSkreech> Let me ask some questions
[06:29] <cotyrothery> ok
[06:29] <Admiral_Chicago> cotyrothery: there is a way to reinstall grub off the live Cd
[06:29] <Admiral_Chicago> greg: ya, it's beryl
[06:29] <Admiral_Chicago> maybe #ubuntu-effects
[06:29] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: If his MBR is on hd0 is it valid to have grub on hd1 ?
[06:30] <Admiral_Chicago> DaSkreech: if his windows one is on hd0, then no
[06:30] <greg> thank you
[06:30] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: that's what I thought
[06:31] <cotyrothery> so then what does that mean
[06:31] <NixHex> I ask thee...whats the point of a support channel if the people that know what to do never pay attention to the channel or are never logged in
[06:31] <DaSkreech> his find /boot/grub/stage1 returns (hd1,0)
[06:31] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: It means you reopen console :)
[06:31] <Hasrat_USA> lol
[06:31] <cotyrothery> so i need to open konsole
[06:31] <Admiral_Chicago> cotyrothery: sudo apt-get build-dep build-essential
[06:31] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Yup :)
[06:32] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: What?
[06:32] <Admiral_Chicago> sorry, i posted that twice
[06:32] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: May I inquire waht for?
[06:32] <cotyrothery> ok im opeing konsole
[06:32] <cotyrothery> alright it is open
[06:32] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: can you walk him through redoing his grub? I have to step out for 10 minutes
[06:33] <Admiral_Chicago> DaSkreech: np
[06:34] <otateossian> hello
[06:34] <otateossian> is anyone there
[06:34] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: You the man Admiral!
[06:34] <Admiral_Chicago> thanks
[06:34] <otateossian> i have a question
[06:34] <Admiral_Chicago> otateossian: hello
[06:34] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Listen to Admiral_Chicago :)
[06:34] <Admiral_Chicago> ask
[06:34] <otateossian> hello
[06:34] <cotyrothery> ok
[06:34] <DaSkreech> !ask
[06:34] <cotyrothery> im ready
[06:34] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:34] <Admiral_Chicago> cotyrothery: wait a second...
[06:34] <cotyrothery> ok
[06:34] <otateossian> i have ubuntu on my dell and i want to use the wireless on it