[00:09] <mwhudson> RAOF: did that change help mir?
[00:34] <RAOF> mwhudson: Still finishing it to test!
[00:34] <RAOF> Turns out there's quite a lot of places where we assumed the 3-parameter open(), and it's annoying to forward varargs calls.
[01:44] <RAOF> mwhudson: For more in the “how did that ever work?” department - we were only ever implementing the 3-parameter open() call, but virtually all of the calls we were trying to intercept were of the 2-parameter open().
[02:46] <RAOF> Seriously, gcc? ‘<anonymous>’ may be used unitialised?
[02:46] <RAOF> On ppc64el, but not x86-64?
[02:46] <RAOF> C was a mistake 🔥
[04:04] <mwhudson> RAOF: yay C
[04:04] <RAOF> Actually, this is on C++.
[04:04] <mwhudson> "it's annoying to forward varargs calls" i think it's impossible generically but i guess in this case it's not very generic
[04:05] <RAOF> Yeah, impossible in the general case and merely annoying in this case. :)
[04:05] <RAOF> Apparently gcc (just on ppc64el!) thinks the default constructor for a std::optional accesses an anonymous uninitialised variable.
[04:05] <mwhudson> that's... special
[04:05] <mwhudson> and smells like a gcc bug tbh
[04:06] <RAOF> I think it must be.
[04:06] <RAOF> Oh! It's going to be an interaction between the optimiser and the C++ frontend, isn't it. That's how it can be ppc64 specific.
[04:12]  * mwhudson types things into gcc bugzilla
[04:13] <RAOF> Helpfully, the diagnostic identifies it in entirely the wrong function, too.
[04:13] <mwhudson> RAOF: https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=80635
[04:14] <mwhudson> although that's old
[04:15] <mwhudson> looks similar though
[04:18] <RAOF> It does, yes.
[04:19] <RAOF> It also suggests that we might have hit the problem on a !ppc64 architecture, essentially at random?
[05:09] <RAOF> 🎉 That fixes the stack smashing!
[05:10] <RAOF> Leaving only a bunch of failing tests 😬
[06:24] <tobikoch> o/
[06:25] <tobikoch> We bootstrap a bunch of containers every night and this was working well until this morning, when I woke up to:
[06:25] <tobikoch> Setting up ubuntu-advantage-tools (27.2.1~18.04.1) ...
[06:25] <tobikoch> ERROR: File not found '/run/cloud-init/instance-data.json'. Provide a path to instance data json file using --instance-data
[06:25] <tobikoch> dpkg: error processing package ubuntu-advantage-tools (--configure):
[06:25] <tobikoch>  installed ubuntu-advantage-tools package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 1
[06:27] <tobikoch> Which apparently gets pulled in by ubuntu-minimal. A bit annoying.
[06:40]  * RAOF checks.
[06:40] <RAOF> Hm. Is that a recent SRU?
[06:40] <RAOF> Yup! Looks like that was published 14 hours ago.
[06:40] <RAOF> blackboxsw: Around? It looks like your recent ubuntu-advantage-tools upload introduced a regression ^^^
[06:42] <RAOF> tobikoch: Have you filed a bug about this yet?
[06:43] <tobikoch> No yet, but can do.
[06:44] <RAOF> It's easier to link to :)
[06:44] <tobikoch> k
[06:50] <tobikoch> RAOF: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-advantage/+bug/1938128
[06:50] <tobikoch> rcj: this might bite you, as well^
[07:04] <RAOF> tobikoch: Thanks. Did you deliberately mark that bug as proprietary? It means that I can't re-assign it to the correct place :)
[07:04] <RAOF> If it is meant to be proprietary I can work around that.
[07:04] <RAOF> I need to head off now, so I hand this over to…
[07:04] <RAOF> !regression-release
[07:04] <RAOF> Oh, no ubotu in here? Have I forgotten that?
[07:04] <tobikoch> RAOF: I thought I had changed it, but maybe it is private because UA is proprietary?
[07:05] <RAOF> Maybe. I can just copy the information out into the non-proprietary place and subscribe you to the new bug if that's ok.
[07:06] <tobikoch> Sure, sorry for the hassle :|
[07:07] <RAOF> No problem!
[07:08] <RAOF> rbasak, you should be on soon. If you're back before I am back from collecting my daughter, please see above!
[09:48] <GunnarHj> vorlon: Thanks for fixing gtk4 on i386!
[10:15] <mwhudson> huh i fixed that bug in git
[10:15] <mwhudson> the ubuntu-advantage-tools one
[10:16] <mwhudson> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-advantage-tools/+bug/1936833
[10:20] <rbasak> Thanks
[10:20] <rbasak> Which series are affected?
[10:26] <rbasak> sil2100: could you halt phasing of ubuntu-advantage-tools please? Bug 1936833 and the discussion above.
[10:26] <rbasak> What version of apt started doing phasing again?
[10:26] <rbasak> But still, desktops may be affected too.
[10:42] <sil2100> rbasak: trying o/
[10:48] <mwhudson> rbasak: all of them, i think
[10:48] <mwhudson> i thought the SRU just landed but it looks like it was a week ago?
[10:49] <mwhudson> ah no was about 16 hours ago
[10:50] <sil2100> Ok, overrode the phasing, but that's only for update manager
[10:50] <mwhudson> apt started phasing in hirsute but image builds generally ignore that anyway
[10:52] <laney> any reason not to roll it back?
[10:58] <rbasak> I had thought it had been released for a while, but perhaps not.
[10:59] <rbasak> Ah that's what Michael said :)
[11:03] <mwhudson> the date on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-advantage-tools is confusing
[11:03] <mwhudson> oh is it showing the date it was published in proposed?
[11:03] <sil2100> I don't have much context re: this upload, but we can indeed pull it from -updates if needed
[11:04] <laney> I would
[11:06] <rbasak> sil2100: OK. Please pull it from -updates.
[11:10] <rbasak> sergiodj: ^
[11:23] <sil2100> ACK
[11:23] <sil2100> Will take a moment
[11:24] <sil2100> Since I need to remove the current package and reinstate the previous version in -updates
[11:24] <sil2100> rbasak: can you mention on the regression bug that we're pulling this update back to -proposed?
[11:25] <laney> you'll want to un-fixed-released the original SRU bugs too I guess
[11:26] <laney> fix-released*
[11:43] <rbasak> sil2100: done
[11:50] <rbasak> un-fixed-released the original SRU bugs too> also done
[11:55] <rbasak> otp now for the next hour
[13:08] <dbungert> If anyone is interested in reviewing some update-notifier, I'm working on an interesting issue where a crash happens, you get the dialog to report or not, click the report button, and nothing happens.  https://code.launchpad.net/~dbungert/update-notifier/+git/update-notifier/+merge/405628


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[04:16] <apb1963> I seem to have lost my printscreen ability
[04:16] <apb1963> When I press the printscr button it opens a browswer to  ksnapshot
[04:27] <ScottyK> Fresh install of Kubuntu 13.10. How do I tell Firefox to automatically open up Ktorrent when I click on a torrent file?
[04:44] <IdleOne> ScottyK: you should be able to right click, open with > select ktorrent, check the box that says always use this.
[04:59] <topoi> hey anyone help me with a gpg setup in evolution?
[05:00] <topoi> also, the evolution package in muon is v out of date
[10:15] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:16] <hewhomust> good evening
[10:24] <lordievader> Hey hewhomust, how are you?
[10:42] <edgar_> hi
[10:51] <lordievader> Hey edgar_, how are you doing?
[10:52] <edgar_> im good how are you
[10:53] <edgar_> im new to IRC what do people talk about?
[11:15] <simion314> hi, anyone having issues with latest firefox? HEre firefox hangs on each page that has javascript in it
[12:21] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[14:02] <zooru> Hello
[14:05] <zooru> I need help. Im talking with you using the phone
[14:05] <zooru> Last  night i dist-upgraded kubuntu
[14:05] <zooru> kubuntu
[14:06] <zooru> Now after booting a black screen appears saying
[14:06] <zooru> Filesystem check or mount failed
[14:06] <zooru> And i can't do a thing
[14:07] <zooru> I need to work and i just... i don't know how to solve this
[14:19] <zooru> Please?? Im crying ;( ;(
[14:23] <rberg> zooru: do you have a installer cd or usb around? you should be able to boot that and figure out whats going on
[14:26] <zooru> I cant use the console?
[14:26] <zooru> I have root access
[14:26] <zooru>  rberg
[14:36] <rberg> ohh yeah sure you can, I assume it dropped you in an emergency shell.. do you have any special configurations? raid, lvm, fancy disk controllers?
[14:40] <rberg> otherwise,  assuming you are ok at the block level I would fsck any filesystems then verify /etc/fstab is correct and attempt to mount them
[14:43] <zooru>  Please wait rberg
[14:45] <n8w|> hey
[14:46] <n8w|> guys do u know how to overcome the issue with hard links(file is hardlinked 1 time(s), skipping!) while usin srm?
[16:12] <cornfeedhobo> is anyone else having trouble with youtube after the updates a few days ago?
[16:15] <dougl> sec cornfeedhobo
[16:17] <dougl> youtube on nvidia with nvidia drivers = ok
[16:31] <BluesKaj> cornfeedhobo, are your other audio sources working ok?
[16:34] <BluesKaj> er media sources rather, cornfeedhobo
[16:34] <cornfeedhobo> no, this got more messed up quickly
[16:34] <cornfeedhobo> i think its my ISP
[16:34] <cornfeedhobo> i switched to my vpn and all the issues i am having disappeared
[16:34] <cornfeedhobo> WTF
[16:35] <BluesKaj> strange
[16:36] <BluesKaj> unless your gov't is blocking
[16:39] <cornfeedhobo> nope, the vpn is to my datacenter, which is like a 30 minute drive away
[16:40] <cornfeedhobo> its the isp i am pretty sure
[16:41] <BluesKaj> on vpn my irc lag is around 50 ms, on my ISP it's 150 ms, go figure
[16:41] <BluesKaj> same irc server
[16:45] <cornfeedhobo> exactly
[16:45] <cornfeedhobo> screw this
[16:45] <cornfeedhobo> i am running the vpn full time now
[16:45] <cornfeedhobo> i cant trust any connection i dont control anymore. i swear
[16:46] <Zooru> Hello, I need help. I-m using a live cd because I can-t acces to my kubuntu installation :(
[16:46] <Zooru> I get this every time I boot
[16:46] <Zooru> Filesystem check or mount failed. A maintenance shell will now be started. CONTROL-D will terminate this shell and continue booting after re-trying filesystems. Any further errors will be ignored
[16:47] <Zooru> And if I type reboot, poweroff. etc it freezes and I have to switch it off phisically
[16:47] <BluesKaj> Zooru, have you tried update/upgrade in the virtual console /TTY ?
[16:49] <Zooru> BluesKaj: how? This happened after a failed upgrade
[16:49] <BluesKaj> Zooru, ctl+alt+F1-F6, login , then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:49] <Zooru> ok buy
[16:49] <Zooru> t
[16:49] <Zooru> but
[16:49] <Zooru> without the live cd
[16:50] <Zooru> or using it?
[16:50] <Zooru> I did an upgrade, and what I remember is something like
[16:50] <BluesKaj> withiut the live cd, unless you can't get the grub menu
[16:50] <BluesKaj> without
[16:50] <Zooru> something about dependencies: open:812432213 closed:1439124354
[16:50] <Zooru> that numbers are random
[16:51] <Zooru> after that the console said
[16:51] <Zooru> >Killed>
[16:51] <Zooru> sorry for the > symbol, I-m using the amercian layout and I-m spaniard
[16:51] <Zooru> I don-t know where is the simle colon
[16:51] <Zooru> xD
[16:52] <BluesKaj> so this is after you choose a kernel in grub ?
[16:52] <Zooru> yeah
[16:52] <Zooru> It boots
[16:52] <Zooru> but then I get this message
[16:52] <Zooru> And I have a shell
[16:53] <Zooru> well, maintance shell
[16:53] <BluesKaj> yes, but can you get to a virtual console as I posted above
[16:53] <Zooru> I think yes?
[16:54] <BluesKaj> or better yet , choose the recovery kernel in grub and choose repair packages in the dialog that appears
[16:55] <Zooru> I did it
[16:55] <BluesKaj> then startx
[16:55] <Zooru> and it not works
[16:57] <BluesKaj> then choose network in the dialog then,  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:58] <blastery> Hello
[17:59] <genii> blastery: Hello! If you have some question regarding your Kubuntu, just state it to the open channel and then see if someone may be able to assist.
[17:59] <blastery> I have a problem! My battery was empty while doing an upgrade, since then I couldnt boot into Kubuntu anymore. "kdestart" was missing. So I manually reinstalled kde-workplace-bin. Now I can log in again, but apt-get upgrade says "The following packages have been kept back:kde-runtime plasma-scriptengine-javascript".
[17:59] <blastery> When trying to install kde-runtime manually it says: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[17:59] <blastery>  kde-runtime : Depends: kde-runtime-data (>= 4:4.11.5-0ubuntu0.1) but 4:4.11.3-0ubuntu0.1 is to be installed
[18:00] <blastery> Somehow something got broken
[18:00] <genii> blastery: Have you tried: sudo apt-get -f install   ..?
[18:00] <blastery> yes.
[18:01] <blastery> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[18:01] <blastery> Yes this is strange, google didnt' help me.
[18:01] <blastery> Do you need anymore information I can provide?
[18:02] <genii> blastery: If you do: sudo apt-get update    ... and then: apt-cache policy kde-runtime-data    .... what does it say then?
[18:02] <genii> Bleh, work. Back in a few minutes
[18:04] <blastery> This -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6921269/
[18:05] <blastery> Maybe I could manually purge/remove one of those packages and reinstall after reboot?
[18:05] <blastery> I can handle terminal/console, so it wouldn't be a big deal if the desktop doesnt start. I just want to have a clean system again :)
[18:10] <genii> blastery: I think I would try something like: sudo apt-get install kde-workspace-bin=4:4.11.3-0ubuntu1
[18:10] <genii> blastery: Apologies on lag, back and forth from computer
[18:10] <blastery> E: Version '4:4.11.3-0ubuntu1' for 'kde-workspace-bin' was not found
[18:11] <blastery> No problem, thank you very much for your support!
[18:11] <genii> blastery: What says apt-cache policy kde-workspace-bin  ..?
[18:12] <blastery> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6921294/
[18:14] <genii> blastery: Probably best then to try the lower version listed: sudo ap-get install kde-workspace-bin=4:4.11.2-0ubuntu1
[18:14] <genii> *apt-get   ( forgot a T there...)
[18:14] <blastery> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6921308/
[18:15] <blastery> :( something really got broken. isnt there some kind of reset to bring everything to the same version again?
[18:16] <BluesKaj> genii, sudo dpkg --configure -a ?
[18:17] <blastery> Maybe I could try to upgrade to Kubuntu 14.04 Beta and everything will be upgraded to a common version?!
[18:17] <genii> blastery: What says result of: ls /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-workspace-bin*    ..?
[18:17] <genii> blastery: Don't upgrade without stable packages first!!
[18:17] <genii> Meh, work again, AFK
[18:21] <blastery_> Sorry my internet connection went away.
[18:21] <blastery_> Did you write anything while I was offline?
[18:21] <genii> blastery_: What says result of: ls /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-workspace-bin* ..?
[18:21] <blastery_> /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-workspace-bin_4%3a4.11.5-0ubuntu0.1_amd64.deb
[18:22] <genii> blastery_: ...and also not to try upgrading to 14.04 until your 13.10 is sorted out ;)
[18:22] <blastery_> ok :) But it was just an idea that everything maybe would get to a commong version again...
[18:22] <blastery_> maybe I could do apt-get clean?
[18:23] <genii> blastery_: It will just get caught up even worse in unresolved dependencies, etc
[18:23] <blastery_> ok then better not do it
[18:23] <genii> !info kde-workspace-bin saucy
[18:24] <genii> !info kde-runtime-data saucy
[18:24] <genii> blastery_: Looks like your German mirror may have mixed versions available right now
[18:25] <blastery_> so i could try changing the mirror
[18:25] <blastery_> i'll try
[18:26] <genii> blastery_: I would change all the de.archive.ubuntu.com to just archive.ubuntu.com   and then re-run the sudo apt-get update, and then check the available versions for kde-workspace-bin and kde-runtime-data to see if they match
[18:26] <blastery_> in what file again?
[18:26] <genii> blastery_: /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:26] <blastery_> ok thanks.
[18:26] <genii> AFK 3-5 minutes
[18:30] <blastery_> It is updating now!
[18:30] <blastery_> Your idea was great!
[18:30] <blastery_> Thank you so much!
[18:30] <blastery_> I switched to "us" update mirror.
[18:32] <genii> blastery_: You're welcome :)
[18:32] <blastery_> Have a nice day and the feeling you helped somebody ;)
[18:33] <Zooru> BluesKaj: I have to tell you something
[18:33] <BluesKaj> it's a shame the de repos aren't kept up to date
[18:33]  * BluesKaj waits :)
[18:35] <Zooru> I'm uploading the pic, 1 sec
[18:35] <Zooru> BluesKaj: http://i.imgur.com/Oz0QdyD.jpg
[18:35] <Zooru> I'm still waiting
[18:36] <Zooru> after choosing network option
[18:36] <Zooru> on the grub
[18:36] <BluesKaj> recovery kernel nonexistent ?
[18:37] <manny> hi
[18:37] <Zooru> BluesKaj: what?
[18:37] <BluesKaj> Zooru, in grub
[18:38] <Zooru> Thisd option is inside the safe mode
[18:38] <genii> BluesKaj: Some of the mirrors are maintained by individuals or small organizations and not always synchronized regularly, unfortunately
[18:38] <Zooru> recovery mode
[18:38] <Zooru> BluesKaj: ↑
[18:38] <manny> can anybody help me with wireless connections?
[18:39] <genii> !details | manny
[18:39] <manny> there is no option foe enable wireless in kubuntu 13.10 in network settings?
[18:40] <BluesKaj> Zooru, looks like your install or upgrade failed during the installation procedure
[18:40] <Zooru> BluesKaj: yes that' what happened
[18:40] <manny> there is no option foe enable wireless in kubuntu 13.10 in network settings?
[18:41] <BluesKaj> Zooru, do you have separate / and /home partitions ?
[18:41] <genii> manny: Are you able to use pastebin from that machine by the wired connection?
[18:41] <manny> I haven't tried pastebin yet, but wired connection works fine
[18:42] <genii> manny: If you can then, please pastebin result of: sudo rfkill list
[18:42] <Zooru> BluesKaj: in that machine... no :/
[18:44] <manny> sudo rfkill list
[18:44] <manny> [sudo] password for pc:
[18:44] <manny> 0: ideapad_wlan: Wireless LAN
[18:44] <manny>         Soft blocked: no
[18:44] <manny>         Hard blocked: no
[18:44] <manny> 1: ideapad_bluetooth: Bluetooth
[18:44] <manny>         Soft blocked: no
[18:44] <manny>         Hard blocked: no
[18:44] <manny> 5: hci0: Bluetooth
[18:44] <manny>         Soft blocked: no
[18:44] <manny>         Hard blocked: no
[18:45] <BluesKaj> Zooru, suggest you try to reinstall
[18:46] <lordievader> manny: Please use pastebin.
[18:46] <lordievader> !paste | manny
[18:46] <Zooru> BluesKaj: it's possible to reinstall without deleting user's data?
[18:48] <lordievader> manny: Could you pastebin the output of "sudo iwlist wlan0 scan|grep SSID".
[18:49] <genii> manny: Well, it's obviously seeing your wlan adapter since it's listed as the first one. and it's also not turned off in hardware or in software.
[18:49]  * genii slides lordievader a small box of tasty cookies
[18:49] <manny> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6921490/
[18:51] <lordievader> manny: That is odd, could you pastebin the output of: lspci -k|grep -A2 Network
[18:52] <manny> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6921505/
[18:52] <genii> Looks like the wifi adapter in many Lenovo are problemmatic Broadcom types
[18:53] <lordievader> manny: Did you install the driver for your Broadcom card?
[18:53] <manny> yes
[18:53] <genii> !broadcom | manny ...as according to the method described here?
[18:53] <BluesKaj> lenovo here, no probs with BCM wifi
[18:54] <genii> BluesKaj: Must be one of the lucky ones! ;)
[18:56] <BluesKaj> well, it's 14.04, think wifi with BCM is solid on it, installs with ubiquity during the installation procedure, genii
[18:57] <BluesKaj> Zooru, do yo have a live cd or media to usw to transfer/backup users files to another destination or pc /
[18:57] <lordievader> manny: Can you answer genii's question?
[18:57] <genii> BluesKaj: My old Gateway laptop I got so frustrated with the Broadcom card that I actually yanked it out and put an Atheros instead
[18:59] <lordievader> genii: Got a very old Broadcom in my desktop, I'm actually quite happy with it. It supports monitor mode with injection :)
[18:59] <manny> Actually I'm new to irc and not know what to say?
[19:00] <genii> manny: Was the method you used to install the driver for your wireless card the same as in the link I gave from the bot, or was it some different way?
[19:01] <manny> how to check if drivers are installed?
[19:04] <genii> manny: sudo lshw -C network    ... there is a lot of output. But if a driver is loaded it's name will be in the line that starts with "configuration: .."
[19:04] <genii> manny: Maybe just use the pastebin site for the output so we can read it instead
[19:06] <manny> genii: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6921570/
[19:06] <lordievader> manny: "lspci k |grep -A2 Network" also gives you the driver.
[19:07] <lordievader> Might be wrong here, but I don't think a driver is loaded for the broadcom.
[19:08] <BluesKaj> another command, lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4 , should show the diver if loaded/installed
[19:08]  * genii returns to his desk and commences reading
[19:09] <genii> manny, lordievader: Yes, no driver is installed for the Broadcom
[19:10] <genii> manny: I would suggest to follow the instructions previously given, at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[19:10] <lordievader> genii: Was about to link to it.
[19:11] <manny> sudo apt-get --reinstall install bcmwl-kernel-source. Does this command will work
[19:14] <lordievader> manny: That is what the guide says ;)
[19:32] <manny> lordievader: tried installing from this link but failed to install it. http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php
[19:35] <lordievader> manny: It is in the repo, no need to download it from broadcom.
[19:40] <lordievader> manny: Have you executed all of the precise commands that where listed for the STA driver?
[19:41] <manny> not sure, tried this command sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[19:47] <lordievader> manny: Ok, and those modprobe commands?
[19:48] <tester56> p
[19:50] <manny> which modprobe commands?
[19:50] <lordievader> manny: The ones in the guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#Installing_STA_drivers
[19:53] <manny> error  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6921844/
[20:18] <falsobuio_> hello there. i have dual boot laptop. with win8 and kubuntu. i want to delete all the partitions that have to do with win8. the first issue is that i have like 8 partitions and do not know which ones to delete.
[20:24] <falsobuio_> i am sorry to have to resend this. I have a dual boot laptop. with win8 and kubuntu. i want to delete and merge all the partitions that have to do with win8. the first issue is that i have like 8 partitions and do not know which ones to delete.
[20:27] <gomiboy> falsobuio_:  Applications -> System -> Kde partition manager From that program you can delete windows partitions, but if you want to extend your root linux partition you have to boot from a cd like systemrescuecd
[20:30] <falsobuio_> gomiboy thanks for the reply it would not be urgent to extend my linux partition. just to delete everything that windows has on my HD. I will "merge" the partitions that have been formated to unallocated space after deleting all the unnecessary partitions. the issue now is that i cannot choose anything in partition manager as all the actions/buttons/etc are greyed out, like disabled.
[20:32] <gomiboy> Probably because they are mounted, right click and select unmount
[20:36] <falsobuio_> The file system on partition /dev/sda8 could not be unmounted.
[20:37] <falsobuio_> and while i manage to unmount (on some) partitions, still the icons are disabled.
[20:38] <gomiboy> falsobuio_: are you italian?
[20:39] <falsobuio_> nope
[20:39] <falsobuio_> but i speak:p
[20:40] <gomiboy> so you know your nick means "false dark" :)
[20:41] <falsobuio_> sure i do
[20:41] <gomiboy> back to the problem... you say that on an unmounted windows partition everything is still disabled..
[20:42] <falsobuio_> yeap
[20:42] <gomiboy> did partition manager ask you for your password when you launched it?
[20:43] <falsobuio_> yes and i entered it correctly
[20:45] <gomiboy> does it recognize the windows partitions? They should have "ntfs" under "type"
[20:48] <falsobuio_> check the printscreen
[20:48] <falsobuio_> http://imageshack.com/a/img836/2651/pkag.png
[20:49] <falsobuio_> u can see the disabled icons plus the ntfs of windows 8. F** windows create like 5-6 partitions, i do not know how many
[20:52] <gomiboy> i see... and you have a efi system... of which i don't know much about...
[20:52] <falsobuio_> efii?
[20:52] <falsobuio_> cos'e efi??
[20:55] <gomiboy> a sort of bios replacement to implement secure boot and other stuff... for sure you should stay away from sda2 or your system will not boot anymore...
[20:55] <falsobuio_> uefi
[20:55] <falsobuio_> oh ok
[20:56] <falsobuio_> got it.
[20:56] <falsobuio_> this is setup in bios and the boot options, while only like this win8 could be installed
[21:09] <falsobuio_> no one can help me?
[21:10] <falsobuio_> auitooo!
[21:11] <topoi> random, but... i just had to declare that i've finally finished distro-hopping. Kubuntu is my home.
[21:11] <topoi> there.
[21:13] <topoi> also: Chakra is balls.
[21:16] <falsobuio> mnio
[21:38] <falsobuio> here is the parted -l
[21:38] <falsobuio> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6922344/
[21:48] <fkm> To whoever (here/upstream/downstream) reverted the stepping on the KMix system-tray icon from 15% back to 5%: You are my hero! <3
[21:54] <Poisoned_Dragon> lol


[01:39] <khoover> BobJonkman, ping
[01:39] <BobJonkman> Hiya!
[01:40] <BobJonkman> You pinged just at the same time the stove is dinging.  Gotta go Real Soon Now
[16:55]  * genii-around makes more coffee


[00:00] <sarnold> gartral: the first one will go a long way if your processes all need consistent accesses but don't have a common primary group in common
[00:00] <sarnold> gartral: but if one user has umask=0077, it won't help :)
[00:02] <gartral> sarnold: my issue is that I have a folder /home/minecraft/plugins and I can read/write to *THAT* folder, but when I add a plugin too the server that plugin makes a new subdirectory there in which I only have read access.. meaning I have to contact the Server Owner to have her fix the perms each time I add a new plugin >.<
[00:03] <gartral> we both agree that this is becoming a PiTA.
[00:03] <gartral> and I'm in the minecraft group on that machine
[00:04] <sarnold> gartral: how are the plugins run? does the minecraft server start them?
[00:04] <gartral> sarnold: yes, on load
[00:05] <sarnold> gartral: is the directory created at load time? or during an install mechnaism?
[00:05] <zul> adam_g:  ill have a look
[00:06] <gartral> which means that stop/starting the minecraft server process loads the plugins in /home/minecraft/plugins, most plugins as part of their initial load create a new subdir containing all of the configureation information for the plugin
[00:06] <gartral> and I'm sick today, so if my spelling is a little screwy, i apologize
[00:09] <gartral> dangit, i have a fix for GarretKajmowicz
[00:09] <sarnold> oh?
[00:10] <gartral> sarnold: yea, bootchart. it'll profile the boot proccess and let him see where the boot failed
[00:10] <sarnold> gartral: it might be hard without a rw filesystem..
[00:11] <gartral> sarnold: this is why my /log partitions are always on an NFS share :P
[00:11] <sarnold> gartral: haha :) nice, but he's stuck even without a / ...
[00:11] <gartral> sarnold: but back to my issue, any thought?
[00:12] <gartral> sarnold: ohh.. ewww.. his kernel just isn't loading right, huh?
[00:13] <sarnold> gartral: hrm, I'm having trouble finding his pastebin of dmesg.. here's his askubuntu question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/307509/upgrade-to-12-04lts-dumps-to-busybox-on-boot
[00:13] <sarnold> gartral: I'm surprised the plugins would execute as your user, rather than a minecraft user..
[00:14] <sarnold> ah, here we are, his failed boot dmesg: http://pastebin.ca/2455008
[00:15] <sarnold> gartral: is there a dedicated minecraft user account? is that user acccount starting the minecraft server?
[00:16] <gartral> sarnold: yes and yes
[00:21] <sarnold> gartral: hrm. well, you can try the setgid thing easily enough, 'chmod g+s /path/to/directory/' -- I'm not sure why it doesn't Just Work, but I'm not familiar enough with minecraft to know what to look for.
[00:22] <gartral> sarnold: it's not a minecraft specific issue, this happens with all folders in that directory no matter what made them
[00:26] <sarnold> gartral: can you get an ls -ld /home /home/minecraft /home/minecraft/plugins   output? I'm curious about user/group/permissions..
[00:31] <gartral> ls: cannot access /home/minecraft/plugins: No such file or directory
[00:31] <gartral> drwxr-xr-x 5 root      root  4096 Sep 16 19:23 /home
[00:31] <gartral> drwxr-xr-x 8 minecraft users 4096 Sep 18 15:17 /home/minecraft
[00:31] <gartral> oops
[00:32] <gartral> thought I had my browser focused
[00:33] <sarnold> no /home/minecraft/plugins ? how odd..
[00:43] <gartral> sarnold: sorry, stand by
[00:44] <gartral> sarnold: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6130558/
[00:46] <sarnold> gartral: looks sane enough... you might try: chmod g+s /home/minecraft/unl-testing/ /home/minecraft/unl-testing/plugins/
[00:47] <sarnold> that'll set both those directories to force new directories and files created within to have 'minecraft' group ownership. it's a start. :)
[00:58] <gartral> sarnold: should that be run as root or my user?
[00:58] <sarnold> gartral: it could either be run as the minecraft user or as root
[01:00] <gartral> sarnold: that still doesn't fix my access
[01:01] <sarnold> gartral: hrm, ls -ld on the newly created directories and maybe ps auxw | grep minecraft   ... or whatever the server runs as..
[01:01] <gartral> sarnold: does that chmod a+s fix already created directories?
[01:02] <sarnold> gartral: no, just new directories and files
[01:02] <sarnold> gartral: do you have any currently-existing 'broken' directories?
[01:02] <sarnold> ls -ld on them would be helpful too..
[01:02] <gartral> sarnold: yes, about 12
[01:03] <gartral> sarnold: yea, they just "fixed" it by chmod 775 /home/minecraft/unl-testing
[01:04] <gartral> sarnold: well, nvm then
[01:11] <GarrettKajmowicz> I'm back, now with a dedicated IRC client.
[01:26] <gartral> GarrettKajmowicz: so your server isn't mounting / at all?
[01:38] <sarnold> GarrettKajmowicz: gartral suggested trying bootchart, there may be a mechanism it provides to discover how far through boot you get before you're hung up, and it might provide some way to get the data off the system ..
[03:47] <mojtaba1> Hi, do you know how can I connect to my c$ windows partition from ubuntu cmd?
[03:47] <mojtaba1> They are in the same LAN.
[03:49] <mojtaba1> Hello?
[04:35] <dingo311> i cannot ssh from outside my network. canyouseeme.org sees my port, port forwarding is on. i dont know what to do. help please.
[05:49] <Quest> what doss attacks are still with no solution and i should be prepared for defending?
[05:56] <Guest65934> roundcube sucks that all i have to say ...
[05:57] <josephtacos> i started getting a red 0 in front of my prompt in byobu. some how i triggered it. any clue on what it is
[06:02] <Guest65934> I see that also today 12.04 lts server not sure it went away itself tho--- hummm
[06:07] <josephtacos> i think there exit codes
[06:17] <sarnold> Quest: there are hosting providers with unbelievable amounts of bandwidth available, e.g. cloudflare. If you're worried about the reliability of your site even in the face of modern DDoS attacks, it'd be worth having a conversation with them before you need their help.
[06:28] <Quest> hm
[07:55] <foubarre> Hi everyone. I have an ubuntu server acting as a DHCP server. I changed the gateway address. Now machines randomly receive the old or new gateway. DHCP config only contains the new address (dhcp service was restarted many times just in case). Any idea of why that can happen?
[08:00] <linocisco> foubarre, restarted on server? let clients PC restart
[08:01] <foubarre> linocisco: restarted the server, restarted client machines too. Does that since yesterday.
[08:02] <foubarre> linocisco: on the PCs, doing "ipconfig /renew" returns a mix of old and new gateway. Does the same on OSX so i excluded a local caching problem.
[08:03] <elnur> Hey. I'm trying to figure out why nginx and PostgreSQL don't start on system boot. Where do I start?
[08:03] <elnur> Other stuff like PHP-FPM *do* start.
[08:30] <Rory> elnur: Do they start correctly without errors when you start them manually?
[08:31] <Rory> elnur: If so, make a service start at startup with: sudo update-rc.d SERVICENAME defaults
[08:33] <elnur> Rory, yes.
[08:33] <elnur> Let me try that.
[08:34] <elnur> Rory, it says: System start/stop links for /etc/init.d/nginx already exist.
[08:40] <elnur> What else should I try?
[09:11] <linocisco> hi
[09:56] <elnur> I'm trying this:
[09:56] <elnur> cat < `crontab -l` <<EOF | crontab -
[09:56] <elnur> @reboot service nginx start
[09:56] <elnur> @reboot service postgresql start
[09:56] <elnur> EOF
[09:56] <elnur> But it doesn't work.
[09:56] <elnur> What I want is to append those two lines to the output of running `crontab -l` and then pipe it to `crontab -`
[09:56] <elnur> How should I do that?
[10:01] <sgran> elnur: don't do it that way
[10:02] <elnur> How should I do it then?
[10:02] <sgran> first, since you know the two lines you want to add, just do crontab -e :)
[10:02] <sgran> second, fixing why they don't come up at start up is probably the saner approach
[10:02] <elnur> I need to script this.
[10:02] <elnur> I've spend the whole day trying to fix that already.
[10:02] <sgran> ls /etc/init/*nginx* /etc/init/*postgres*
[10:03] <elnur> No such files.
[10:04] <sgran> ls /etc/init.d/*nginx* /etc/init.d/*postgres* /etc/rc?.d/*nginx* /etc/rc?.d/*postgres*
[10:04] <elnur> # ls -l /etc/rc?.d/*nginx
[10:04] <elnur> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Sep 19 21:23 /etc/rc0.d/K20nginx -> ../init.d/nginx
[10:04] <elnur> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Sep 19 21:23 /etc/rc1.d/K20nginx -> ../init.d/nginx
[10:04] <elnur> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Sep 19 21:23 /etc/rc2.d/S20nginx -> ../init.d/nginx
[10:04] <elnur> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Sep 19 21:23 /etc/rc3.d/S20nginx -> ../init.d/nginx
[10:04] <elnur> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Sep 19 21:23 /etc/rc4.d/S20nginx -> ../init.d/nginx
[10:04] <elnur> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Sep 19 21:23 /etc/rc5.d/S20nginx -> ../init.d/nginx
[10:04] <elnur> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Sep 19 21:23 /etc/rc6.d/K20nginx -> ../init.d/nginx
[10:04] <elnur> # ls -l /etc/init.d/*nginx
[10:04] <elnur> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2091 Dec 17  2012 /etc/init.d/nginx
[10:05] <sgran> that looks fine.  Can you paste the contents of /etc/init.d/nginx at paste.ubuntu.com
[10:06] <elnur> sgran, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6131972/
[10:07] <elnur> The script works when I run it manually.
[10:07] <elnur> Just doesn't work on boot.
[10:07] <sgran> is there anything in the logs?
[10:08] <elnur> Nothing in syslog about nginx and nothing in nginx's error.log.
[10:08] <sgran> anything in upstart's log?
[10:08] <elnur> Let me check.
[10:09] <elnur> Which file?
[10:12] <sgran> hmm.  I see upstart only logs jobs, rather than overall status
[10:12] <sgran> disappoint
[10:14] <elnur> Meanwhile:
[10:14] <elnur> (crontab -l; echo "@reboot service nginx start") | crontab -
[10:14] <elnur> (crontab -l; echo "@reboot service postgresql start") | crontab -
[10:14] <elnur> \o/
[10:15] <elnur> Of course, I'd like to fix the root issue.
[10:15] <elnur> I'm just not that good with advanced linux stuff.
[10:15] <sgran> do you see anything in boot.log ?
[10:16] <elnur> I'm recreating the VM. Will tell you in a couple of minutes.
[10:16] <elnur> Vagrant.
[10:17] <elnur> BTW, can Vagrant/VirtualBox be the reason?
[10:18] <sgran> I'm guessing at this point that they're failing to start because of some network or other related configuration that isn't there when they start at boot time, but are there later when you run the script by hand
[10:18] <sgran> so, maybe?
[10:18] <elnur> Would I be able to find this information in any log file?
[10:18] <elnur> I'll check boot.log soon.
[10:19] <elnur> BTW, PHP-FPM starts okay.
[10:19] <elnur> It's nginx and PostgreSQL failing for some reason.
[10:25] <elnur> The VM is up.
[10:26] <elnur> Where's the boot.log file?
[10:26] <sgran> in /var/log
[10:26] <elnur> Nope.
[10:26] <elnur> `locate boot.log` gives nothing.
[10:29] <elnur> Any other ideas? :)
[10:31] <sgran> hmm
[10:31] <sgran> I see a /var/log/boot and a /var/log/boot.log on precise, here
[10:31] <sgran> does vagrant give you a console log from bootup?
[10:33] <elnur> Let me see.
[10:35] <elnur> Hmm.
[10:35] <elnur> I'm looking at `vagrant up` logs and it looks like it's adding network interfaces after the machine boot up.
[10:36] <elnur> [default] Machine booted and ready!
[10:36] <elnur> [default] Configuring and enabling network interfaces...
[10:36] <sgran> so that'll be the problem, I'd guess
[10:37] <elnur> Hm. I'll try another network configuration.
[10:54] <elnur> Well, I tried different network configuration, but that didn't help.
[10:54] <elnur> I also checked out PostgreSQL logs and found this:
[10:54] <elnur> 2013-09-20 10:42:31 UTC LOG:  database system was shut down at 2013-09-20 10:42:30 UTC
[10:54] <elnur> 2013-09-20 10:42:31 UTC LOG:  database system is ready to accept connections
[10:54] <elnur> 2013-09-20 10:42:31 UTC LOG:  autovacuum launcher started
[10:54] <elnur> 2013-09-20 10:42:32 UTC LOG:  incomplete startup packet
[10:54] <elnur> 2013-09-20 10:49:34 UTC LOG:  received smart shutdown request
[10:54] <elnur> 2013-09-20 10:49:34 UTC LOG:  autovacuum launcher shutting down
[10:54] <elnur> 2013-09-20 10:49:34 UTC LOG:  shutting down
[10:54] <elnur> 2013-09-20 10:49:34 UTC LOG:  database system is shut down
[10:54] <elnur> Nothing interesting, I guess.
[10:55] <elnur> I'll go with @reboot cron job for now.
[10:55] <elnur> sgran, thanks for the attempt. :)
[11:17] <sgran> no sweat :)
[12:33] <sarthor> HI, I did apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade, Now when I rebooted, machine is not booting in normal way, I went through recovery mode, and then Network.. So I can use my machine, .. when machine is booting in normal way, it says..  udevd[468]: timeout: killing '/sbin/modprobe -bv pci:v00008086d000027D8sv00001028sd000001DEbc04sc03i00' [473] .. and never boot...HELP please.
[12:46] <sarthor> HI, I did apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade, Now when I rebooted, machine is not booting in normal way, I went through recovery mode, and then Network.. So I can use my machine, .. when machine is booting in normal way, it says..  udevd[468]: timeout: killing '/sbin/modprobe -bv pci:v00008086d000027D8sv00001028sd000001DEbc04sc03i00' [473] .. and never boot...HELP please.
[12:47] <newhite> What is a good socket monitor for Ubuntu?
[12:48] <greppy> sarthor: !repeat
[12:48] <sarthor> greppy: OK. can i quit?
[12:49] <greppy> sorry, was trying to trigger the bot, out of practice.
[12:49] <greppy> !repeat
[12:50] <sarthor> I love this channel. I got a lot of help here, You guys helped alot. Thanks a lot
[12:50] <greppy> sarthor: if no one is awake that can help you, you won't get any help, sorry.
[12:56] <newhite> greppy, that is very logical.  Haha :)
[13:05] <Rory> sarnold: Any time
[13:15] <zul> jamespage:  https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/cinder/housecleaning/+merge/186612
[13:17] <jamespage> zul, wrap-and-sort -s required
[13:18] <zul> jamespage:  fixed
[13:33] <jamespage> zul, looks good, built tests OK
[13:33] <zul> jamespage:  cool ill merge it
[13:33] <jamespage> zul, wait
[13:34] <jamespage> zul, one thing - oslo-config needs an epoch
[13:34] <zul> doh
[13:35] <zul> fixed
[13:51] <xerxas_> utlemming: I somehow cannot find how you built the ubuntu cloud vagrant images
[13:51] <xerxas_> do you provide any script, or any doc ?
[14:14] <Diegonat> can i create a link file in two different devices?
[14:26] <bjf> on a maas server what does "node added but never seen" mean?
[14:26] <bjf> i'm trying to enroll a single system
[14:27] <bjf> i'm on a saucy installed system
[14:27] <bjf> if i look under "Nodes" i see the node, it's status is "Declared" (whatever that means)
[15:13] <zul> jamespage:  im re-enabling the tests for glance as well
[15:22] <jamespage> zul, good luck
[15:22] <jamespage> please don't melt my laptop again :-)
[15:24] <zul> jamespage:  ill try not to ;)
[16:20] <zul> adam_g/jamespage: https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/glance/housecleaning/+merge/186836
[17:15] <zul> adam_g: i dunno if you saw this https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/glance/housecleaning/+merge/186836
[17:18] <adam_g> zul, i did, gonna look at it in a bit
[17:19] <zul> adam_g:  cool thanks
[17:19] <adam_g> zul, please merge you changes into the ubuntu-server-dev branches instead of pushing them directly
[17:19] <zul> adam_g: yep
[17:42] <zul> adam_g:  fixed
[17:46] <adam_g> zul, its still not wrapped to 80 and there are extra newlines
[18:14] <zul> adam_g:  https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/keystone/housecleaning/+merge/186849
[18:26] <hamnstar> hey folks - getting that pesky "waiting for network configuration" message on startup (ubuntu server 12.04).... it's odd, because my configs both work (2 NICs each with a static IP, only one default gateway)... is there anything other than /etc/network/interfaces that i should look into?
[19:20] <zul> adam_g:  https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/neutron/housecleaning/+merge/186870
[19:25] <adam_g> zul, looks okay but i'm not approving it unless you promise its going to get pushed to ubuntu-server-dev as a merge and not a direct commit
[19:30] <zul> adam_g:  uh?
[19:30] <adam_g> .:adam_g:. zul, please merge you changes into the ubuntu-server-dev branches instead of pushing them directly
 adam_g: yep
[19:30] <zul> adam_g:  i thought i was dong that
[19:31] <adam_g> zul, doesn't look like it
[19:31] <zul> frig sorry
[19:32] <zul> adam_g:  so you want me do bzr branch the neutron branch and then merge my branch
[19:32] <adam_g> zul, ideally, yes
[19:32] <adam_g> it can be automated
[20:26] <th299792458> Hi guys! I'm new to linux. I would like to run ubuntu server on a machine that I would also like to use as a media center. What do you guys think is the best way to do so?
[20:27] <th299792458> Ubuntu server with a gui would be somewhat weird, right? But a media center without a gui is also somewhat weird
[20:27] <ikonia> th299792458: why do you need ubuntu server for this ?
[20:28] <ikonia> th299792458: why not use the desktop CD for this ? it comes with a gui
[20:28] <th299792458> Yes but I would also like to run ubuntu server to host a site for example
[20:28] <Pici> Also, you need to define 'Media Center' many media centers have a gui.
[20:29] <ikonia> th299792458: you can do that on the desktop install
[20:29] <ikonia> th299792458: it has the same access to packages, such as apache web server
[20:38] <qman__> the only real difference between the server and desktop editions is the set of which packages are installed; you can install any package you like on either version, so choose what suits your application best
[20:57] <nikolaj_basher> is there a way I can buck an error of af php site through my apache log
[21:10] <ikonia> buck ?
[21:11] <arthur789> im trying to edit my hosts file to allow acess from my ddns inside my network. im not sure exactly what to put into the hosts file.
[21:12] <ikonia> why are you changing your hosts file ?
[21:13] <arthur789> ikonia: from reading that my router has no NAT or loopback service. i thought the next step was the hosts file.
[21:13] <ikonia> why ?
[21:13] <ikonia> nat has nothing to do with your host file
[21:14] <gholms> utlemming: If I reconfigure cloud-init's upstart bits with "console output" and systemd bits with "journal+console" can we just let those send stdout to the console instead of trying to open it explicitly?
[21:14] <gholms> utlemming: I'm trying to deal with containers that don't have /dev/console and whatnot.
[21:15] <arthur789> ikonia: then i probably have my terms confused. connected to my local lan i can not use my ddns to access my machine. i can only connect from outside the network
[21:15] <ikonia> arthur789: that's not controlled by host file
[21:17] <arthur789> ikonia: then i am severly confused. i enabled port forwarding and have a dynamic dns set up. sitting at home, connected to my local LAN, i want to type buffet.dlinkddns.com:4040 and get what i want, not <IP_ADDRESS>:4040. how do i do this?
[21:17] <ikonia> arthur789: you need a dns service and/or you need to edit the host file on the CLIENT
[21:20] <arthur789> ikonia: i have dns service. So i need to edit a file for every computer on the LAN? i have done this before and that doesnt seem right. right now im editing the hosts file on the server machine.
[21:21] <ikonia> arthur789: you don't have a dns service for your internal lan
[21:21] <ikonia> arthur789: editing the hostfile on the server is going to do nothin
[21:21] <ikonia> nothing
[21:21] <arthur789> ikonia: i will stop messing with the hosts file then.
[21:23] <arthur789> ikonia: in the past, when things where set up correctly i could get to my server through the buffet.dlinkddns.com while connected to the wifi router
[21:23] <arthur789> ikonia: things went bad and now im trying to re-set-up and this is being a headache
[21:27] <arthur789> ikonia: this is what i have been googling, mainly 'ddns not working inside network'
[21:32] <ikonia> arthur789: it's totally possible, but it's awkward to use an external dns service to resolve internal addresses
[21:32] <ikonia> arthur789: as you're advertising private addresses that are probably going to be dynamically allocated from a private source (your internal router) to a public service
[21:34] <arthur789> ikonia: well, i dunno what i did in the past, but i could do what i am speaking of. editing the hostfile seems familiar... even though you say it has no effect....
[21:45] <arthur789> ikonia: thanks for your help, i need a reboot
[23:02] <arthur789> hi all. in the past i have been able to access a single machine behind a wifi router no matter if i was away from the LAN at a friends or at home, on the LAN by using my dynamic dns. the computer went south and i am on a fresh install of server 12.04. for some reason i cannot get this going again. ikonia tried to help, but im sure i edited the /etc/hosts file in the past. either way im pretty sure i need to edit a file because my rout
[23:21] <hamnstar> arthur789: you likely need to poke a hole in your routers built-in firewall.  Any previous rules might have been associated to a past (DHCP?) IP of the previous install
[23:37] <arthur789> hamnstar: thanks for the response, this is a new router too. there is no firewall setup on the routers config page.
[23:38] <hamnstar> arthur789, any port forwarding settings?
[23:38] <hamnstar> on the router
[23:40] <arthur789> hamnstar: yes, three. all can be seen on canyouseeme. all can be accessed via say cell phone on 4g. but once im home and on wifi i must use the local ip
[23:41] <hamnstar> ohhh yeah routers dont like routing "out" and back "in"
[23:41] <hamnstar> iirc
[23:41] <hamnstar> you could use a hosts file on your LAN devices to get around that?  is that what you had going on before?
[23:46] <arthur789> im pretty sure. when i came in here before asking about esiting it someone else didnt think that was correct. im not sure how to config the /etc/hosts file.
[23:49]  * gholms does exactly that "out and back in" routing all the time, is now confused
[23:49] <arthur789> i think the hosts file needs work, from the googling i did
[23:51] <hamnstar> gholms: looks like i dont recall correctly then... i think some routers might prevent routing a LAN address to wAN and back into LAN to prevent cyclic routing??
[23:51] <arthur789> gholms: i think its cause my router isnt advanced enough? missing some technology.
[23:52] <hamnstar> arthur789, /etc/hosts would statically map the dynamic dns name to a LAN ip... so as soon as you're off your lan, you would lose ability to contact again
[23:52] <arthur789> when i google dyndns not working inside network i get most results refering to hosts file, im just too noob to know what to put
[23:52] <hamnstar> but would work in the home :P
[23:54] <hamnstar> yeah from some googling it looks like some routers do not handle "out and back in" aka "loopback NAT"
[23:54] <arthur789> i have connectbot on my phone. previously, i could ude the same preset no matter where i was or what network i was on. thats my end goal
[23:54] <gholms> hamnstar: Could be.  What I end up with is traffic going to the public IP on the router regardless of which interface it's coming from and getting forwarded to the appropriate box.
[23:55] <gholms> But maybe the router needs some sort of magic to make that work or something.
[23:55] <arthur789> hamnstar: correct, and from my understanding that means the hosts file needs edit
[23:55] <arthur789> gholms: got any extra magic laying around?
[23:55] <gholms> arthur789: Not if you need something that'll work on linux.  :(
[23:56] <hamnstar> arthur789: a more elegant solution would be to set up a dns on your local lan.... quite a bit more involved
[23:56] <arthur789> hamnstar: well, i can barley handle the easy stuff. but im up for it.
[23:57] <hamnstar> arthur789, using the hosts file will always resolve the name of the server to the same ip.... which is not what you want, as you need a local lan address when on your lan, and your routers publicly routable ip when off your home network
[23:58] <jrwren> what? no mdns love?
[23:58] <gholms> Heh
[23:58] <hamnstar> I can't help you too much in setting up a DNS server... but, what you can basically do is set your primary DNS to a local dns server (managed by you) and secondary DNS to your ISP/preferred DNS server
[23:58] <arthur789> wow. i cant belive i ever had it working
[23:59] <hamnstar> I'm gonna guess your old router handled the "loopback NAT" stuff that some routers do not
[23:59] <arthur789> well, i thought i upgraded. guess i need to get my old one back


[07:01] <wulfgarpro> why do i get permission denied when i've updated my ssh pub key?
[07:01] <wulfgarpro> im running bzr branch ubuntu:xscreensaver
[07:02] <wulfgarpro> and i get: Permission denied (publickey).
[07:02] <wulfgarpro> i've verified my public key and it's fine
[07:02] <wgrant> wulfgarpro: What's your Launchpad username?
[07:02] <wulfgarpro> wulfgar-pro
[07:02] <wgrant> Ah, your key is corrupt.
[07:02] <wgrant> https://launchpad.net/~wulfgar-pro/+sshkeys
[07:02] <wgrant> It's full of spaces.
[07:02] <wgrant> Those shouldn't be there.
[07:03] <wulfgarpro> ah shit
[07:03] <wgrant> The only spaces should be after "ssh-rsa" and before "james@wulfgar-lt"
[07:03] <wgrant> As it is now, everything from "8cF9" is considered to be part of the key description.
[07:03] <wulfgarpro> clip to the rescue
[07:03] <wgrant> :)
[07:04] <wulfgarpro> thanks wgrant
[07:04] <wgrant> np
[09:57] <quazimodo> is it just me or is it nearly impossible to undrestand how to quickly go from making .deb's to making ppa 'things' that i cat apt-get install
[10:06] <cjwatson> Making debs involves making a source package.  If you can do that then sticking it in a PPA is a matter of https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/Uploading
[10:06] <cjwatson> (If you're not making debs by way of a source package, you're doing it wrong!)
[11:31] <rbasak> "https://code.launchpad.net/~OWNER/DISTRIBUTION/+source/SOURCE/+git/REPOSITORY This identifies a repository for a source package in a distribution.
[11:31] <rbasak> "
[11:31] <rbasak> Can I use this today for packaging work?
[11:31] <rbasak> I understand I'll need to upload normally, but I'd like somewhere to put some shared docker.io packaging work that I'm handling in git.
[11:32] <rbasak> The root commit is imported from the archive manually (so doesn't represent true history)
[11:34] <rbasak> So lp:~ubuntu-server/ubuntu/+source/docker.io/+git/packaging perhaps?
[11:34] <cjwatson> Yes, you can use it today
[11:35] <rbasak> Sounds good, thanks.
[11:35] <cjwatson> The main piece of package repositories that doesn't work yet is that there's no way to designate a default repository (i.e. lp:ubuntu/+source/SOURCE)
[11:35] <cjwatson> We're holding off on that until we have something that can reasonably work for all packages, which will probably be dgit ior similar
[11:36] <rbasak> OK
[11:36] <cjwatson> *or similar
[23:07] <wulfgarpro> im new to lp, how do bugs get "closed"
[23:07] <wulfgarpro> ?
[23:10] <wgrant> wulfgarpro: Usually by setting the status to "Fix Released", "Invalid" or "Won't Fix"
[23:49] <wulfgarpro> im new to lp, how do bugs get "closed"
[23:52] <wgrant> wulfgarpro: Usually by setting the status to "Fix Released", "Invalid" or "Won't Fix"
[23:53] <lifeless> groundhog!


[00:00] <ikonia> Jordan_U: had already warned you about insults
[00:00] <ikonia> so lets not waste more time pretending you didn't know
[00:01] <Jordan_U> glundgren: Maybe it would be best for you to read through the guidelines carefully: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines and come back when you have a cooler head.
[00:01] <glundgren> Jordan_U: im cool, really hehe
[00:02] <ikonia> or alternativly come back when you have actually grown up to the point where you can speak to both male and females without being rude and abusive
[00:02] <ikonia> I find your atittude towards "males" just offensive
[00:02] <ikonia> and totally incopatible with the ubuntu channel
[00:03] <glundgren> its hte way ikonia talks, its very... arrogant you know
[00:03] <ikonia> sorry - I'm just being clear as you have a language problem
[00:03] <ikonia> remember English isn't your first language, so I'm just being %100 clear
[00:03] <glundgren> ikonia: ok, lets put a stone over it
[00:04] <ikonia> I don't know what that means, sorry
[00:04] <glundgren> ikonia: hehehe here we say it when we want to ... how can is ay, burry a topic
[00:04] <glundgren> and forget the fight
[00:04] <ikonia> I have no interest in burying the topic, as I've said, I find your whole attitude towards people offensive
[00:05] <ikonia> I'll leave this discussion there
[00:05] <glundgren> Jordan_U: you see...
[00:05] <glundgren> ikonia: ok, please, dont cry... im sorry, you just ask for this
[00:05] <glundgren> im leaving guys
[00:05] <glundgren> hehe
[00:05] <glundgren> bye
[00:06] <glundgren> i apologise, try to fix things up
[00:06] <glundgren> and the guy keeps doing the same thing, at least he is very consistent
[00:06] <IdleOne> glundgren: have you read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines ?
[00:07] <glundgren> IdleOne: not yet
[00:07] <IdleOne> Please do so.
[00:08] <glundgren>  keep all the Ubuntu IRC channels friendly places for everyone.
[00:08] <glundgren> i was not talking dirty language
[00:08] <glundgren> nothing, i didnt even talked to ikonia
[00:09] <glundgren> and he started saying that i was dumb, that i didnt know what i was doing, etc
[00:09] <glundgren> IT, for me is abusive
[00:09] <glundgren> he didnt said dumb, for sure, but he knows what he was doing in a way
[00:09] <glundgren> that will be interpreted as it
[00:10] <knome> glundgren, you are turning this discussion to ikonia; if you want to resolve *your* ban, let's focus what you can do to affect your behavior
[00:10] <glundgren> well i've read the guidelines
[00:11] <glundgren> my bad was swearing
[00:11] <glundgren> apologise for that, and understand why it is an issue
[00:11] <glundgren> there are people that can be offended by it
[00:12] <glundgren> understood
[00:12] <glundgren> but how can i fill a complaint about an op behaviour?
[00:12] <glundgren> i think ubuntu is an official channel of canonical, right?
[00:12] <glundgren> and as a user, i didnt get it at first, but now
[00:13] <glundgren> i want to make a complaint about ikonia
[00:13] <glundgren> where can i do it?
[00:13] <IdleOne> I didn't see ikonia do anything that could be considered abusive
[00:13] <glundgren> you saw what he told me in the channel?
[00:13] <IdleOne> yes
[00:14] <glundgren> what he told me?
[00:14] <IdleOne> yes
[00:14] <glundgren> what he said?
[00:14] <IdleOne> Please don't talk to me like I am stupid. I said yes.
[00:15] <glundgren> i want you to please, copy and paste, if possible
[00:15] <glundgren> what he told me, because i dont have access
[00:15] <IdleOne> I don't need to. I am in the channel.
[00:15] <IdleOne> !logs
[00:16] <IdleOne> but I think we are going to end this here for today. You can come back in 24 hours and we can discuss removing the ban then.
[00:17] <IdleOne> @mark glundgren discuss ban removal in 24 hours.
[00:17] <IdleOne> glundgren: Please part the channel now.
[00:18] <glundgren> idle: this channel?
[00:18] <glundgren> [22:59] <ikonia> glundgren: it seems unlikely you can restore data if you don't know how to remove a directory
[00:19] <glundgren> [23:01] <ikonia> glundgren: as you don't know the command to delete a directory it seems unlikley that you should be managing this system, let alone trying to restore data
[00:19] <glundgren> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/d84a0c4a5d7eeb51b70b
[00:19] <glundgren> here, it for me was abusive
[00:19] <glundgren> where can i make a complaint?
[00:20] <IdleOne> that was perhaps brutally honest, not abusive
[00:20] <glundgren> well
[00:20] <glundgren> for me what i said was not abusive either...
[00:20] <glundgren> since he told me this things
[00:20] <IdleOne> !appeals | you can send an email to the Ubuntu IRC Council if you wish to complain about an op
[00:20] <IdleOne> even to send compliments!
[00:21] <glundgren> for sure im doing this
[00:21] <glundgren> and its better for ikonia watch his mouth from now on
[00:22] <IdleOne> ok, so threats are not acceptable
[00:22] <glundgren> threat?
[00:22] <IdleOne> yes.
[00:22] <glundgren> im saying this as he have to respect customers
[00:22] <glundgren> not as im doing anything
[00:23] <elky> Customer?
[00:23] <IdleOne> and you need to respect all the users and ops in #ubuntu*
[00:23] <glundgren> yeah, althought its a free product, a user is considered a customer
[00:23] <knome> we're not progressing; this is again turning towards ik onia, so let's end the discussion
[00:23] <glundgren> IdleOne: now i read the guidelines, im aware
[00:24] <IdleOne> anyway, you have the email address. Please part this channel.
[00:24] <elky> glundgren: we are not the dispensaries of ubunut. We volunteer time to help people. We get to choose when we stop helping.
[00:24] <elky> ubuntu*
[00:24] <glundgren> elky: i understand that, but you guys are under the ubuntu ubrella
[00:24] <glundgren> elky: i was talking friendly, manly, i am used to, it was not a deal for me, really
[00:25] <IdleOne> glundgren: and when you enter our channels, we hold the umbrella.
[00:25] <IdleOne> if you don't want to get wet, you need to be nice and follow the rules
[00:25] <glundgren> IdleOne: yeah, i was banned, i understand that i was not being true to the guidelines
[00:25] <IdleOne> great, so I'll see you in 24 hours and we can talk about you being unbanned
[00:26] <glundgren> IdleOne: really, it was my first time asking for help in the channel
[00:26] <IdleOne> yes really
[00:27] <glundgren> is unfair what you guyr are doing, just saying
[00:28] <glundgren> im not a flooder, or entered the channel menacing anyone, i was just looking for help
[00:28] <IdleOne> we can talk about that in 24 hours.  What would happen?
[00:31] <glundgren> elky: the logs shows, i didnt started being abusive
 god, please, i've sinned... i spoke dirty language in the #ubuntu channel, forgive me
[00:32] <glundgren> elky: i was joking around...
[00:33] <glundgren> IdleOne: can i talk with elky?
[00:34] <elky> i'm not going to pass verdict either way
[00:35] <elky> so your discussion would be for naught. we'll need the channel clear for other people soon
[00:35] <glundgren> elky: i know, but please read the logs, you will see that i didnt started anything
[00:35] <glundgren> i just want to show this
[00:39] <elky> My silence does not mean you should start petitioning me in PM.
[00:39] <glundgren> oh guys, im talking with robots, im not petitioning anything
[00:40] <glundgren> im just talking...
[00:40] <glundgren> ok, i will leave
[00:40] <IdleOne> beep bop bloop
[00:44] <elky> So synopsis: Ikonia stepped out of helping him, so he kept poking at ikonia and called him a freak. He was told to stop using personal insults, then started swearing and trying to insult ikona more ("get a girlfriend"). Then insists he didn't start anything.
[00:44] <elky> did i miss anything significant?
[00:46] <IdleOne> not really
[00:50] <Corey> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[02:13] <Jordan_U> elky: Well, in addition to stepping out of helping them, ikonia did tell them that they were not qualified for their job (administering the server in question) which they took as a personal insult. You can decide if that's significant or not.
[20:25] <Calinou> banned from #xubuntu?
[20:25] <Calinou> I did nothing wrong
 banned from #xubuntu?
 I did nothing wrong
 consider using non-LTS whenever possible...
[21:06] <Calinou> ???
[21:06] <Calinou> I didn't insult them or anything
[21:06] <bazhang> you were asked not to give that sort of advice
[21:06] <Calinou> do you have something personal against me?
[21:07] <bazhang> I am merely answering
[21:07] <LjL> considering how many times i've seen your nick mentioned, a few people here probably do by now ;(
[21:07] <Calinou> can you stop having personal things, and unban me?
[21:07] <Calinou> I won't do it again if you're so much against people
[21:07] <bazhang> not personal
[21:07] <Calinou> also, why deny that LTS works better in some cases?
[21:08] <Calinou> especially desktop?
[21:08] <bazhang> and saying that it's personal fails to see how that sort of advice is not welcome
[21:09] <bazhang> you were banned from #ubuntu , and asked not to give that sort of advice
[21:09] <bazhang> and then took it to #xubuntu and continued
[21:09] <Calinou> so we can't suggest people to use another version?
[21:09] <Calinou> what is this
[21:10] <bazhang> ?
[21:10] <Calinou> if someone wants a package only in a non-LTS, and suggest use of non-LTS, do they get permanently banned?
[21:10] <Calinou> why are you acting like Mortvert?
[21:11] <IdleOne> What is a Mortvert?
[21:11] <Calinou> some idiotic op from #minecraft
[21:11] <Calinou> permbanned me
[21:11] <Calinou> (real permban)
[21:12] <IdleOne> ah. always the op
[21:12] <Calinou> not all of them are idiotic
[21:12] <Calinou> but some are
[21:16] <IdleOne> I think it would be best if you found some other forum/channels to "help" in.
[21:17] <Calinou> I do
[21:17] <Calinou> but, what if I have support question?
[21:17] <Calinou> permbanning people in support channels is STUPID
[21:17] <Myrtti> who said it was a permban? we do review the bans every now and then
[21:18] <Myrtti> some are even autoremoved
[21:18] <IdleOne> there is also askubunt.com
[21:18] <IdleOne> askubuntu.com *
[21:18] <Calinou> it IS permban
[21:18] <Calinou> it was confirmed a few days ago by some other op
[21:19] <Myrtti> and the ops aren't a hive mind, it can be revoked by another op
[21:19] <Calinou> never happened, noone bothered doing it
[21:19] <Myrtti> the question is will it, by whom, and when
[21:19] <Calinou> so, it doesn't exist
[21:19] <IdleOne> technically all bans are permanent, until they are no longer permanent.
[21:19] <Calinou> yes
[21:19] <jbroome> that was deep
[21:19] <LjL> we've always been at war with eurasia
[21:19] <Myrtti> ceterum censeo Carthago esse delendam
[21:20] <Myrtti> (no don't spank me!)
[21:20] <Myrtti> I know my Latin sucks.
[21:20] <IdleOne> Calinou: At this time the bans will remain in place. Was there anything else we can help you with?
[21:21] <Calinou> no...
[21:21] <Calinou> let's hope my buntu installs work
[21:21] <IdleOne> Oakfeather: How can we help you?
[21:22] <Oakfeather> IdleOne, oh, I was just observing the Calinou dispute
[21:22] <Oakfeather> so, nothing.
[21:22] <IdleOne> Well, that is over for now.  A goal, after all.
[23:44]  * hggdh goes trying to transform black in pink overtones