[12:13] <mitheng> buenas
[12:13] <superkirbyartist> Typing "x" doesn't work.
[12:13] <mitheng> x
[12:13] <Dr_Willis> X - UPPER case X
[12:14] <superkirbyartist> But yes, got the terminal.
[12:14] <Dr_Willis> i think. :)
[12:14] <Dr_Willis> did it say...  bash: x: command not found
[12:14] <Dr_Willis> thats different from 'dosent work' heh heh.
[12:16] <superkirbyartist> Hooking up external monitor shows screen with "X".  Internal doesn't work.
[12:17] <edu> Hey, how can I share a internet connection through a wifi card?
[12:17] <superkirbyartist> Dr_Willis?
[12:18] <Dr_Willis> superkirbyartist:  interesting.
[12:18] <Dr_Willis> this is one of those imacs thats an Monitor/pc combo? with a external vga port as well?
[12:18] <knapp> How do I change the configuration of a single panel, instead of all of them? For example, when I make a panel transparent, it makes them all transparent.
[12:19] <superkirbyartist> Yes.
[12:19] <superkirbyartist> iMac G3.
[12:19] <Dr_Willis> I got an imacDV - similer to that one?
[12:19] <superkirbyartist> Desktop is loading when type "startx"; "X" alone shows screen with "X" cursor.
[12:19] <Homer> !wget
[12:19] <ubotu> wget: retrieves files from the web. In component main, is standard. Version 1.10.2-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 226 kB, installed size 1952 kB
[12:19] <Homer> can I get "wget" a whole domain
[12:20] <superkirbyartist> So maybe switch to supported resolution.  Both monitors work at same time with terminal
[12:20] <superkirbyartist> Thank you Dr_Willis!
[12:20] <Dr_Willis> superkirbyartist:  sounds like the xorg config is some how confused and setting up 2 monitors perhaps.. and defaulting to the wrong one.
[12:20] <superkirbyartist> Be right back.
[12:20] <Dr_Willis> My TV out hooked up acts similary
[12:20] <Dr_Willis> untill i configure it.
[12:21] <superkirbyartist> This is inconvenient!  One mouse button!  How to change screen resolution?
[12:22] <superkirbyartist> I have an entire KDE desktop.  6.10 Edgy Kubuntu is pretty good!
[12:23] <superkirbyartist> Anyone knows how to change the screen resolution?
[12:23] <Digital_Pioneer> Hi. I need to batch rename a folder of files from x - y.mp3 to y - x.mp3.
[12:24] <vivianne> hello
[12:24] <superkirbyartist> How do you change screen resolution?  From KDE or terminal?
[12:24] <vivianne> hola como va?
[12:25] <superkirbyartist> No bieno.  Screen resolution how to change?
[12:25] <steveire> georgeb: You still around? I was having swap partition issues earlier...
[12:25] <superkirbyartist> Dr_Willis?  Screen resolution?
[12:26] <steveire> superkirbyartist: try kcontrol
[12:26] <superkirbyartist> kcontrol...
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> superkirbyartist:  i normally use that kde tool.. but 90% of the time ubuntu sets up my res. where i dont need tomess with it.
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> Its even gotten my widescreen laptop right.
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> which amazed me
[12:26] <superkirbyartist> But it won't work with both monitors.  As I said, only external.  So I will adjust resolution.
[12:28] <delusions> hi everybody, can someone tell me at what temperature you are generally running the cpu
[12:28] <Dr_Willis> heh   - my poor imac. the internal crt is about dead on it.. i tend to set it on a desk and hook up a external lcd.
[12:28] <archangel_> anybody here with an MSI m/b?
[12:29] <archangel_> like it?
[12:29] <delusions> yes
[12:30] <Dr_Willis> its sort of impressive how cheap some of these mb's are these days :)
[12:30] <Dr_Willis> theres a lot of work in those things.
[12:30] <archangel_> I normally build higher end machines, but I have a friend that needs a budget pc
[12:30] <archangel_> MSI prices are very reasonable
[12:30] <dennister> i may be getting somewhere...bbs
[12:31] <shaezsche> whats the best kde theme EVER. quick i need an objecctive answer
[12:31] <campbch> :o use the default, with transparencies, and a transparent font over your favorite wallpaper.
[12:31] <shaezsche> eh.
[12:31] <shaezsche> naw
[12:31] <archangel_> default
[12:31] <campbch> its what i do, it looks schweet
[12:31] <shaezsche> i want something dark and sexy
[12:32] <campbch> ok
[12:32] <campbch> you can make it dark
[12:32] <shaezsche> but can i make it sexy??
[12:32] <campbch> again, with transparencies, and change the colors of bars
[12:32] <shaezsche> what about super karamba
[12:32] <archangel_> get a girl
[12:32] <campbch> ok... one sec...
[12:32] <Dr_Willis> most of the 'dark' themes ive seen - have issues with programs and visibility of stuff. :(
[12:32] <eaglehawk> hello everybody
[12:32] <Dr_Willis> I tend to just use Plastik theme.
[12:32] <shaezsche> me too, and im sick of it
[12:33] <steveire> How do you send a message to a nickserv account? Anyone know?
[12:33] <eaglehawk> anybody help me with sound issue on laptop
[12:33] <pierreSabatier> bonsoir
[12:33] <shaezsche> i wish beryl worked
[12:33] <shaezsche> lots of themes there
[12:33] <pierreSabatier> je cherche de l'aide ne php
[12:33] <digivore> which desktop environment has the best themes?  Enlightenment or xfce os beryl?
[12:33] <shaezsche> but it makes my video card squeak
[12:33] <pierreSabatier> pour imagerotate
[12:33] <shaezsche> wehever i open close things
[12:33] <shaezsche> or minimize windows
[12:33] <[cf] nightrid3r> steveire: msg nickserv help
[12:33] <archangel_> yeah, dark dont look all that good unless you have a dark wallpaper with transparansies  (sp?)
[12:33] <pierreSabatier> elle ne veut pas fonctionner
[12:33] <digivore> !fr
[12:33] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:33] <pierreSabatier> quelqu'un sait pourquoi
[12:33] <pierreSabatier> ?
[12:33] <pierreSabatier> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30331/
[12:33] <dennister> somehow i did it...not sure how
[12:34] <pierreSabatier> ligne 52 commente
[12:34] <eaglehawk> anybody help me with sound issue on laptop
[12:34] <shaezsche> why arent transparencies on by default?
[12:34] <pierreSabatier> elle ne fonctionne pas mais n'affiche pas d'erreur
[12:34] <dennister> but the resolution is huge...exact opposite of normal prob with everything too tiny....lol
[12:34] <aseigo> shaezsche: in the window manager?
[12:34] <dennister> 'ts ok i should be able to fix this
[12:35] <superkirbyartist> I still can't get this to work.
[12:35] <shaezsche> yea
[12:35] <campbch> hmm
[12:35] <aseigo> shaezsche: because it's not stable and slow like crap on most vid cards
[12:35] <campbch> though i dont like it as much, look at this screenshot
[12:35] <archangel_> cause a transparancy option is hard to find
[12:35] <aseigo> shaezsche: it would be a -great- way to make the default kde give a crap impression to 99% of users
[12:35] <pierreSabatier> je veux comprendre
[12:35] <shaezsche> not stable? i thought i just turned it on in the kde appearance menu
[12:35] <shaezsche> im not talking about beryl
[12:35] <archangel_> that was a bad one.... sorry
[12:35] <aseigo> yes, i know.
[12:35] <pierreSabatier> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30331/ qu'est-ce qui ne va pas avec la ligne 52
[12:36] <shaezsche> whats not stable about it??
[12:36] <aseigo> is this the (fake) menu transparencies, or the real transparency for windows (e.g. when moving, etc)
[12:36] <shaezsche> well are the REAL transparencies availble in the menu appearance settings
[12:36] <Digital_Pioneer> Any ideas on my renaming dillemma?
[12:36] <archangel_> every menu I have is transparent
[12:36] <archangel_> and the bar
[12:37] <archangel_> I cant find a thing
[12:37] <aseigo> ah, menu transparency. ok, -that- is a hack and not particularly fast.
[12:37] <aseigo> it takes a screenshot and uses a tinted version of that as the background for the menu
[12:37] <aseigo> we try to turn on as few such half-assed (if neat) hacks as possible by default.
[12:37] <archangel_> yes
[12:37] <aseigo> i'm assuming kubuntu is following that concept too
[12:38] <shaezsche> im talking ONLY about the settings in the control panel under appearance/themes
[12:38] <shaezsche> that should ALL be stable
[12:38] <shaezsche> its not something you dl and install
[12:38] <Digital_Pioneer> archangel_: Right-click the panel, and try to find "Configure Panel..."
[12:38] <archangel_> prove of that is sliding the bar out of the way and watching the pic go with it
[12:38] <aseigo> shaezsche: which exact feature in that panel?
[12:38] <archangel_> I was just kidding DP
[12:39] <dennister> i take that back...nervous about editing xorg.conf by hand
[12:39] <shaezsche> you can do anything to xorg
[12:39] <shaezsche> if you screw up just use the auto config command
[12:39] <shaezsche> i forget what it is, anyone know?
[12:39] <shaezsche> i put random code in xorg all the time
[12:39] <shaezsche> its fun
[12:39] <superkirbyartist> Dr_Willis: I can't even see my desktop anymore. How to boot KDE with old settings?
[12:40] <dennister> anything? then who do so many people come in here with very serious xorg probs? I've had xorg fall apart on me b4, 2
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> superkirbyartist:  you mean the old X settings? or the old KDE user settings
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> ive hacked and whacked and assaulted the x configs many a time. :P
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> its just somthing ive read and learned to mess with.
[12:43] <RawSewage> Is there a way to show meta-tag info for audio files in Konqueror browser
[12:43] <superkirbyartist> Old X settings.
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> the layout of xorg.conf is much better then the old style xf86configs. :) but it could still use work.
[12:43] <h3sp4wn> Dr_Willis: I think the old one is easier in someways
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> superkirbyartist:  see if theres any backups in /etc/X11,  you are saying you editted the file and Did NOT make a backup?
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> h3sp4wn:  my xconfigs seem to be about 1/2 the legenth they used to be. :)
[12:43] <h3sp4wn> Dr_Willis: i.e using "1" or "0" always instead of sometimes "Enable and sometimes "True"
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> or less.
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> Never noticed much hassles with 1/0/true/false.
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> its interesting all the options the nvidia driver readmes mention, fun to play with.
[12:45] <dennister> Dr_Willis: i think i've finally got the nvdia driver working, bug the resolution is huge, and the slider bar in kcontrol for a higher resolution isn't working
[12:45] <dennister> which section of xorg.conf should i edit?
[12:45] <superkirbyartist> All done back to original settings.  Now how to support monitor?
[12:45] <h3sp4wn> Dr_Willis: That is different though (the advance-help for nvidia-xconfig lists them all)
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> dennister:  you mean the res is "high" as in 1050xwhatever? or LOW like 640x480 so the fonts/icons are huge?
[12:46] <h3sp4wn> Dr_Willis: I am talking about the free drivers which seem inconsistant
[12:46] <superkirbyartist> Internal iMac monitor G3.
[12:46] <superkirbyartist> DV
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> hmm.. isent there a ppc/mac forum on the ubuntu forums?
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> my poor mac aint even been powered on in months.
[12:47] <dennister> i'm afraid that there are so many that look so similar i'll edit the wrong one..lol
[12:48] <superkirbyartist> !imac
[12:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about imac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:48] <dragonfly7> How can I force my computer to recognize a windows network?
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> force?
[12:48] <NameNomad> !partition
[12:48] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> ping the window machines.. if they reply :) its networked.
[12:49] <RawSewage> Is there a way to fix Amarok so it doesnt cut off the end of small clips
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> use the samba tools to access window shares. or the FISH:// feature of konqueror
[12:49] <RawSewage> I want to hear the whole clip
[12:49] <RawSewage> but it cuts off the end
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> or was it smb:// (i forget)
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> fish:// is for ssh? or was it samba?
[12:49] <dragonfly7> I have been, and around 20% of the time i can see other machines. But usually it doesn't work.
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> RawSewage:  it fades out at the end then starts the next one?
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> dragonfly7:  interesting..
[12:50] <RawSewage> Dr_Willis, no, it just cuts it off
[12:50] <superkirbyartist> I will use the actual mac.
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> dragonfly7:  may want to check out smb4k, or that fuse samba filesystem stuff. it may be windows is timing out/hanging up.
[12:51] <dragonfly7> Yes, it is triving me crazy. All I want is to share a printer.
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> dragonfly7:  sounds like somthng that may be hard to pinpoint. since it works/dont work.
[12:51] <dragonfly7> dragonfly7: Yes, that is the problem I have been having. Is there some GUI samba configurer that I could use?
[12:52] <dragonfly7> I am not sure why I am talking to myself. Oops.
[12:52] <edu> how could I do my laptop act as a router? can anyone help me?
[12:52] <RawSewage> lol
[12:52] <mc_> edu: that is an fairly advanced topic
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> ip masquerading howto - is a nice read.
[12:53] <edu> well
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> dragonfly7:  i would be guessing its not a problem at the linux end.. but at the windows end. :(
[12:54] <dennister> Dr_Willis: I won't screw everything up by, in xorg.conf, changing the resolution of all video devices to 800x600?
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> dragonfly7:  not that it helps much to say that. :(
[12:54] <superkirbyartist> Dr_Willis: On my iMac!
[12:54] <edu> i just wanted my nintendo ds to be able to connect internet with linux
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> superkirbyartist:  not sure.. when in doubt backit up. I thought the crt on those macs could only do like 1024x768
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> at 60hz. (or whatever it was)
[12:55] <qu1ckfr0st> can anyone here with editting a partition on kubuntu and creating a new windows partition?
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> edu:  heh heh. :) ive not tried that yet.
[12:55] <dragonfly7> Yeah. I remember doing this once before, (I reinstalled kubuntu when I upgraded to 6.10) and I think I did something in windows.
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> edu:  i got my psp going.
[12:55] <qu1ckfr0st> help me with editting ***
[12:55] <dennister> well, i'm gonna try it anyway...luckily i do have anotehr linux installation
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> qu1ckfr0st:  you got linux isntalled on hda allready? and now want to resize the install and install windows?
[12:56] <qu1ckfr0st> yeah
[12:56] <qu1ckfr0st> i've got 224gbs of unused space on my hd
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> unused as in 'free' or unused as unallocated :)
[12:57] <edu> Dr_Willis: and how can i use the laptop as a router? do you know?
[12:57] <BluesKaj> Gpatrted Live cd  Linux-ntfs partitioner
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> edu:  ip-masquerading lets you share a network connection with other pc's
[12:57] <qu1ckfr0st> unused as in free, i want to resize it down to about 74gbs of free space, create a new partition with about 150
[12:57] <BluesKaj> err GParted  qu1ckfr0st
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> qu1ckfr0st:  gparted can do that.. but getting windows to isntall successfully on the unallocated space maybe the issue
[12:58] <SAM_theman> yo my dad is trying to install his nvidia drivers for kubuntu 6.10 and keeps giving him an error
[12:58] <qu1ckfr0st> i've got that open right now
[12:58] <SAM_theman> and it does it with ubutnu 6.10 as well
[12:58] <edu> ok, Dr_Willis , i'll search for ip-masquerading
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> SAM_theman:  those 2 are all using the same drivers/repos and are basicially identical :)
[12:58] <SAM_theman> whats your point
[12:59] <dragonfly7> SAM_theman: what is the error?
[12:59] <SAM_theman> it should be easy like version 6.06
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> you have yet to tell us the error.. :)
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> i had no hassles installing the nvidia stuff on edgy. (6.10)
[12:59] <SAM_theman> Error unable nvidia kkernel driver.....
[12:59] <qu1ckfr0st> hey, i've got GParted open right now, but it wont allow me to select resize, do I have to unmount the partition first or something?
[01:00] <wharf> Hi there.
[01:00] <Dr_Willis> qu1ckfr0st:  BEST to use a live cd with gparted on it.
[01:00] <dragonfly7> wharf: hi.
[01:00] <wharf> I tryed installing xgl onto my kubuntu system, i screwed it up
[01:00] <wharf> It aint that easy to do is it?
[01:00] <Dr_Willis> qu1ckfr0st:  the partions must be unmounted..
[01:00] <justin1278>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <blue07>
[01:00] <qu1ckfr0st> I have a kubuntu live cd
[01:00] <justin1278> lol
[01:01] <justin1278> sry
[01:01] <Dr_Willis> :)
[01:01] <Dr_Willis> Hay thats my password also!
[01:01] <qu1ckfr0st> can I put that in, reboot onto that, install GParted and then unmount the partition im going to edit
[01:01] <justin1278> lol
[01:01] <Dr_Willis> qu1ckfr0st:  the live cd may have parted allready included
[01:01] <edu> hey, isn't ip-masquerading function implemented in kde's control center or something else?
[01:01] <qu1ckfr0st> ok
[01:01] <Dr_Willis> theres also some dedicated gparted/parted live cds out.
[01:02] <justin1278>  /msg NickServ justin1278 <blue07>
[01:02] <justin1278> why is it not working?!?!
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> edu:  i seem to recall some check box's for enabling it somewhere.. but aint used it in ages
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> justin1278:  space at teh start of the command?
[01:02] <morfic> justin1278: perhaps the < > ?
[01:02] <Dr_Willis>      /command
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> vs /command
[01:02] <justin1278>  /msg NickServ justin1278 <blue07>
[01:02] <justin1278> not working
[01:02] <justin1278> i had it working before lol
[01:03] <morfic> justin1278: i hope you add the space to let us see the line only
[01:03] <Dr_Willis> since its echoing in here..the /msg stuff is the issue.
[01:03] <RebornDV> hello
[01:04] <justin1278> ok got it
[01:04] <RebornDV> i'm having a problem with kubuntu on this laptop... when i first install it the sound works great but after a while it stops working... and ideas?
[01:04] <justin1278> lol
[01:05] <dragonfly7> RebornDV: Does it stop altogether or start crakling? What laptop?
[01:05] <justin1278> hey does anyone know of any cool first person shooters for Kubuntu?
[01:05] <RebornDV> stops altogether... it's an emachines w4620
[01:06] <RebornDV> it's happened before... did a fresh installation and it worked again for a while then stopped again
[01:07] <justin1278> does anyone know of any cool first person shooter games for Kubuntu?
[01:07] <yeti> try nexuiz
[01:08] <justin1278> thanks
[01:08] <justin1278> does it cost or is it free?
[01:08] <yeti> it is free
[01:09] <yeti> nexuiz: http://www.alientrap.org/nexuiz/ ; warsow: http://www.warsow.net/
[01:09] <yeti> i'm not really sure but i think warsow has an active online multiplayer community
[01:10] <Dr_Willis> rtcw:ET is hard to beat.
[01:10] <Dr_Willis> Tremulus (trembulus?) is fast pased also.
[01:10] <justin1278> ok
[01:10] <Dr_Willis> and Savage is now released for Free.. its a must get FPS for linux
[01:10] <nivanson> How do I upgrade to kernel 2.6.18 with edgy? Backports?
[01:11] <justin1278> oh i love ET
[01:11] <justin1278> i have it on Windows
[01:11] <justin1278> but I think it is going to be discontinued
[01:11] <gnomefreak> nivanson: you cant
[01:11] <gnomefreak> nivanson: you have to build it
[01:11] <qu1ckfr0st> hello again, im now running on a live disk, the only partitioning software is qtparted though
[01:11] <RebornDV> i hope you don't mean et the atari game
[01:11] <justin1278> no
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> RTCW:ET has a active modders/mapmakers base..
[01:11] <justin1278> ET = Enemy Territory
[01:11] <RebornDV> ah
[01:11] <RebornDV> must be better
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> It aint dieing out any time soon
[01:11] <nivanson> gnomefreak: That's too bad. :) I'll have to stick with ndiswrapper then. Thanks
[01:12] <justin1278> Activision is going to make a new ET game called
[01:12] <justin1278> Enemy Territory Quake Wars
[01:12] <morfic> hm, where do sources end up when you get them with: apt-get source $somepackage
[01:12] <Raven301> nivanson: http://timia.net/agios/index.php?page=UbuntuKernel
[01:12] <qu1ckfr0st> someone help me please?
[01:12] <RebornDV> so no ideas on the sound disappearing issues?
[01:12] <nivanson> Raven301: Thank you, but I'm sticking to packages :D
[01:13] <Raven301> nivanson: it builds a .deb at the end
[01:13] <qu1ckfr0st> so it wont allow me to resize my partition still, do I have to set it as unactive or something?
[01:13] <Raven301> nivanson: Linux raven301-laptop <IP_ADDRESS>-01 #1 SMP Sat Nov 4 14:09:10 EST 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[01:13] <Dr_Willis> qu1ckfr0st:  with the live cd?
[01:14] <qu1ckfr0st> yeah im on the live cd, but my main partition is active
[01:14] <nivanson> Raven301: Oh, let's try it then! :D Thanks again
[01:14] <Dr_Willis> run the tool as root/with sudo
[01:14] <RebornDV> on a fresh install on this laptop the sound works great but after a while the sound stops working
[01:14] <Dr_Willis> qu1ckfr0st:  not as the livdcd user.
[01:14] <MaterMaravillae> hi, can somebody tell me what you have in /home/.../.kde/Autostart, please?
[01:14] <qu1ckfr0st> how do I do that?
[01:14] <superkirbyartist> Dr_Willis, monitor now works.
[01:14] <Dr_Willis> MaterMaravillae:  .desktop files. commands, scripts, links
[01:14] <edu> There is a package called "ipmasq", would it be enought?
[01:14] <Raven301> nivanson: I've used it about 5 times now and it worked everytime :)
[01:14] <RebornDV> :(
[01:14] <superkirbyartist> Thank you ^_^.
[01:15] <Dr_Willis> superkirbyartist:  cools :)
[01:15] <MaterMaravillae> ok ty Dr_Willis
[01:15] <morfic> oops, the current dir :/
[01:15] <qu1ckfr0st> Dr_Willis: how do I run the tool as root/with sudo ?
[01:15] <yeti> edu: enough for what?
[01:15] <nivanson> Raven301: Great! :)
[01:16] <Dr_Willis> qu1ckfr0st:  try sudo -s, or sudo thenameofthecommand, i dont mess with the ubuntu live cd's they are lacking in ways. :) i perfer slax live cds
[01:16] <edu> for connecting my ds to the internet through my laptop
[01:16] <Dr_Willis> qu1ckfr0st:  or see if tgeres a root-shell icon somewhere
[01:16] <Dr_Willis> edu:  check the ubuntu wiki/forums for a guide perhaps?
[01:17] <qu1ckfr0st> Dr_Willis: cant i just open konsole and start a root shell?
[01:17] <Dr_Willis> qu1ckfr0st:  try it and see....
[01:18] <qu1ckfr0st> Dr_Willis: it just opens one as root@ubuntu
[01:18] <Dr_Willis> then thats a root shell.
[01:18] <yeti> edu: you would not even need ipmasq for that. is there anyone else on your LAN but your laptop and your ds?
[01:18] <qu1ckfr0st> Dr_Willis: so now what?
[01:18] <edu> no!
[01:18] <Dr_Willis> qu1ckfr0st:  run the parted command - whatever its called...
[01:19] <yeti> edu: then, as root: "echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" and set your laptop's IP as standard gateway on your desktop
[01:19] <qu1ckfr0st> alright
[01:19] <Dr_Willis> yeti:  thats the heart of the ip-masq howto. :)
[01:20] <edu> ok, and then, if a search a wireless point in my ds, will it appear?
[01:20] <qu1ckfr0st> Dr_Willis: what do I now? specify sector size for the device?
[01:20] <yeti> edu: LOL no, nut unless your DS has a wireless card
[01:20] <edu> yes
[01:20] <Dr_Willis> qu1ckfr0st:  no idea what you are doing exactly. gparted was rather straight forward with sliders and  so forth.
[01:21] <edu> the ds has built-in wifi
[01:21] <qu1ckfr0st> Dr_Willis: cant i just install gparted and use that?
[01:21] <yeti> edu: but what do you need to use your laptop for if you can already connect to a wireless LAN with your ds?
[01:21] <Dr_Willis> select the drive, slide the sliders, hit the apply button (i think) go get some food.
[01:21] <edu> i need my laptop
[01:21] <Dr_Willis> qu1ckfr0st:  no idea. I DONT USE the kubuntu live cd..  i use live cd's that i know come with gparted.
[01:21] <edu> beacuse i have a 56k connectioni
[01:21] <edu> and there are no routers for that...
[01:21] <Dr_Willis> gparted may be on the kubuntu live cd.. it may not be.
[01:22] <edu> so I'm connecting to inernet with the laptop and then using it as a router for the ds
[01:22] <edu> (sorry for my little English :-P)
[01:22] <qu1ckfr0st> Dr_Willis: im installing gparted right now
[01:22] <yeti> yeah well, so your question is whether you'll still be able to access wireless networks if you set your ds' standard gateway to your laptop's ip?
[01:23] <edu> um.......
[01:23] <yeti> if that is your question, the answer is yes, as long as you've configured your wireless stuff properly
[01:23] <edu> well my question is
[01:23] <edu> how can i configure my laptop to act as a wireless point?
[01:24] <edu> wireless acces point*
[01:24] <Dr_Willis> edu:  you got wireless working on the laptop at all...
[01:25] <edu> yes, the card is set up properly...
[01:26] <edu> it can search other wireless networks and that stuff
[01:26] <edu> but i don't know how to create one!
[01:26] <Th3_Cr0up13R> I have been playing with the colours for 2 hours now and i changed everything , on the tree on the left i can see the names of the folders fine
[01:26] <Th3_Cr0up13R> but on the right where the files are i see them very white
[01:26] <Th3_Cr0up13R> cannot make out the writing
[01:26] <Th3_Cr0up13R> is there any way i can change that ?
[01:28] <Dr_Willis> what DS games even use the internet?
[01:28] <RebornDV> mario kart?
[01:28] <Th3_Cr0up13R> when i select them i can see the selected colour works fine but the normal does not seem to make it out at all
[01:28] <steve> hi I need some help with wireless
[01:28] <steve> what is the best sniffer
[01:29] <steve> I need to be able to see the wireless ap in my area
[01:29] <Th3_Cr0up13R> does anyone know how this can be fixed
[01:29] <edu> mario kart, metroid primer hunters... but also homebrew, like linux ds, beup (a msn messenger client) wifi apps... voice chats, and things like that.
[01:29] <dragonfly7> Is there some sort of keyboard shortcut app built into kde? Every once and a while, I hit some key combination that launches something which makes the keyboard launch things rather than type.
[01:30] <dragonfly7> It seems like a stciky keys kind of thing.
[01:30] <Dr_Willis> alt-space
[01:30] <edu> Um.. I'm trying with firestarter, it looks cool :-D
[01:30] <Dr_Willis> hmm let me go get my DS and see.. lol..
[01:30] <dragonfly7> Any suggestions for turning it off?
[01:31] <edu> OMG, this is what i was looking for! at last!!
[01:31] <edu> well, good bye, and thanks for your support! Dr_Willis and yeti
[01:32] <RebornDV> i'm having a problem with kubuntu on this laptop... when i first install it the sound works great but after a while it stops working... and ideas?
[01:32] <Dr_Willis> dragonfly7:  other then learning to type. :)
[01:32] <Dr_Willis> hmm it dont seem to be running for me.
[01:34] <dragonfly7> dragonfly7: thank you, that is so helpful. :) I think there should be a way to disable whatever it is.
[01:34] <dragonfly7> NO!
[01:34] <dragonfly7> Why am I talking to myself??? I mean Dr_Willis.
[01:34] <letalis> dragonfly7: its probably a setting un keyboard in system settings panel
[01:34] <letalis> are you wanting to disable keyboard shotcuts?
[01:35] <letalis> shortcuts
[01:35] <Dr_Willis> i think hes triggering katapult by mistake
[01:35] <Dr_Willis> thats alt-space right?
[01:36] <letalis> what does katapult do exactly? ive started it and it shows a katapult logo and doesnt do much else
[01:36] <aseigo> letalis: hit alt-space
[01:36] <letalis> hell amor seemed more useful.
[01:36] <aseigo> letalis: then start typing something
[01:37] <Dr_Willis> i cant even get alt-space to show it up
[01:38] <RebornDV> :(
[01:38] <dragonfly7> Katapult, yes, that sounds familiar.
[01:38] <dragonfly7> If I do it again, will it go away?
[01:38] <letalis> ok i see what it does now
[01:38] <letalis> just lets you select stuff on the dektop without a mouse
[01:38] <letalis> desktop
[01:39] <Dr_Willis> alt-space keeps opening the file menu. :)
[01:39] <Dr_Willis> well the windows control menu heh
[01:40] <steveire> katapult is cool. I just discovered it properly today.
[01:40] <dragonfly7> I hate katapult since it confuses me.  When it is being used I cant use the keyboard.
[01:42] <dragonfly7> I have to restart x. Or at least I had to. Now that I know alt+space starts it, I can disable that.
[01:43] <Tiger_IT> Tiger_IT gogogo
[01:43] <mc_> what does katapult do?
[01:43] <Dr_Willis> had to restartx to get out of katapult? gee - hitting enter dident do it?
[01:43] <Dr_Willis> mc_:  its a fancy launcher/tool
[01:44] <mc_> Dr_Willis: i iinstalled and started it,but i dont understand what to do with it
[01:44] <mc_> Dr_Willis: i also dont see anything
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> google for its homepage. :)
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> hit alt-space and see what happens
[01:44] <dragonfly7> I didn't try, I was kind of freaking out about the lack of keyboard control and the applications starting.
[01:44] <letalis> i killed katapult, i dont think thats it because i can still use alt+space to select things on the desktop
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> dragonfly7:  rule #1 'dont panic' :)
[01:45] <superkirbyartist> Fonts look a little ugly.
[01:45] <letalis> all due respect, unless youre in a shell, why are you typing in x to begin with?
[01:45] <mc_> Dr_Willis: omfg why didnt i discover such a great tool earlier
[01:45] <superkirbyartist> Because.
[01:45] <letalis> lol
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> superkirbyartist:  gogle for the various font tweak guides.
[01:46] <mc_> that changes life dramatically for me ^^
[01:46] <superkirbyartist> But the fonts was working fine earlier!
[01:46] <superkirbyartist> Now they have dots everywhere!
[01:46] <Dr_Willis> http://wiki.thekatapult.org.uk/Home
[01:46] <letalis> superkirbyartist: did you add fonts?
[01:46] <dragonfly7> Yeah, I shouldn't have. I am ashamed
[01:46] <superkirbyartist> None at all.
[01:46] <letalis> what was the last change you made to the system before you saw the change?
[01:47] <superkirbyartist> Don't remember... I think none.
[01:48] <letalis> hmm
[01:48] <letalis> it just started doing it?
[01:48] <letalis> no reason at all?
[01:49] <shadowhywind> here is a off the wall question, A friend of mine wants to make a Bumpersticker for his car, with the kubuntu logo, any trademarks or anything that he should be afraid of?
[01:51] <dragonfly7> OK< WHAT IS GOING ON>
[01:51] <dragonfly7> SCROLL LOCK IS STUCK ON< CAPS LOCK SAYS ITS OFF BUT WONT TURN OFF
[01:51] <dragonfly7> ENTER DOESNT WORK< OR ANY NORMAL KEYBOARD SHORTCUTS
[01:52] <gnomefreak> dragonfly7: reboot
[01:52] <tmoorman> Anyone have this msg in X.org log? "Error loading keymap /var/lib/xkb/server-0.xkm"
[01:52] <cntb> dragonfly7: ctrl alt f1 wont work either ?
[01:52] <dragonfly7> And now its back to normal.
[01:53] <cntb> gnomefreak: that sounds so m$
[01:53] <letalis> im starting to wonder if your keyboard setup is incorrect
[01:53] <dragonfly7> I think I have a ghost stuck in my keyboard. :)
[01:53] <letalis> did you just install kubuntu?
[01:53] <gnomefreak> cntb: only way to turn off keyboard
[01:53] <gnomefreak> that i know of
[01:53] <dragonfly7> No, it has been working fine for weeks.
[01:53] <cntb> dragonfly7: cpu was too busy
[01:53] <cntb> have many firefox windows there ?
[01:54] <dragonfly7> I don't think so... I haven't been running anything.
[01:54] <cntb> so strange
[01:54] <dragonfly7> Just one firefox window, and kopete and a konsole window.
[01:54] <felixjet> it is possible to open with imagemagick an imagen, an create a new image of part of the image? i mean, take from 25,25 to 300,300. cut it and make a new image. it is possible in command line?
[01:55] <dragonfly7> Well, now I know that if it does it again I just have to type in caps till everyone gets irritated, then it will quit.
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> felixjet:  ive seen that done in imageicmagic tutorials/magazine articals
[01:55] <qu1ckfr0st> im running Gparted from a kubuntu live cd, and it wont allow me to change my primary partition because it's apparently being used, how do I run without using that partition?
[01:55] <cntb> memory management is kernel's resposibvilty ? right ?
[01:55] <qu1ckfr0st> by change, i mean edit.
[01:55] <felixjet> thanks Dr_Willis
[01:56] <tmoorman> Anyone have this msg in X.org log? "Error loading keymap /var/lib/xkb/server-0.xkm" or something similiar?
[01:56] <Search4Lancer> ahhhh I have looping program crashes!
[01:56] <peanutb> klipper seems to want to paste nothing insted of the thing i just copied, making ctrl+c useless, any ideas
[01:56] <justin1278> hello does anyone know how i can get Gnome on Kubuntu?
[01:57] <MattCornell> apt-get install gdm ?
[01:57] <dragonfly7> apt-get gnome-desktop?
[01:57] <MattCornell> ahh..
[01:57] <felixjet> Dr_Willis: do you know any link to start from?
[01:57] <Search4Lancer> yeah, you install gnome :-P
[01:57] <peanutb> justin1278, do apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:57] <justin1278> sry im a noob at linux lol
[01:57] <justin1278> ok thanks guys
[01:57] <BonBonTheJon> anyone having problems with wireless in edgy
[01:57] <justin1278> i was having issues with Wireless on Ubuntu Edgy
[01:57] <Search4Lancer> no, but I am having problems getting edgy to begin with
[01:57] <justin1278> but not on Kubuntu
[01:58] <tmoorman> Anyone having problems with fonts on GTK apps?
[01:58] <peanutb> justin1278, what card?
[01:58] <BonBonTheJon> justin1278: can you see the network but not connect
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> felixjet:  google for tutorials/examples i guess.
[01:58] <justin1278> no
[01:58] <cntb> markelhas:  hi
[01:59] <markelhas> cntb: hi
[01:59] <markelhas> :)
[01:59] <justin1278> i cannot even get a wireless network
[01:59] <justin1278> i have intel 915GM
[01:59] <peanutb> justin1278, your card might not be supported, check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[01:59] <cntb> what happens when sudoers file has syntax error ? any workaround?
[01:59] <markelhas> i've a problem with sudo command can anyone help me out!?
[01:59] <cntb> !sudoers
[01:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sudoers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:00] <markelhas> got >>> sudoers file: syntax error, line 0 <<<
[02:00] <cntb> !sudo | markelhas
[02:00] <ubotu> markelhas: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:00] <MattCornell> felixjet:  advanced image editing from the command line with Image=Magik  http://software.newsforge.com/software/05/04/29/1358220.shtml
[02:00] <felixjet> MattCornell:  thanks!
[02:00] <Search4Lancer> ah wtf Kopete won't connect to anything....
[02:00] <justin1278> then why would it be supported on Kubuntu but not Ubuntu?
[02:00] <felixjet> try to find this in google can take ages xD
[02:00] <MattCornell> felixjet: Np!  I made a cool image once f
[02:00] <MattCornell> that would use the ip address of the person looking for bad web pages  in it
[02:01] <justin1278> yes my chipset/wireless card is supported
[02:01] <peanutb> justin1278, it would be supported the same on both.
[02:01] <BonBonTheJon> any one know why I can see a wireless network but can't connect to it
[02:01] <justin1278> ok
[02:02] <MattCornell> I'll try and plug my wireless usb  device to see if it works :)
[02:03] <cntb> what happens if one cannot sudo
[02:03] <cntb> ? cannot sudo because of sudoers file syntax error by some editing mistake?
[02:03] <cntb> anyone?
[02:03] <MattCornell> google - "recover from a broken sudo"
[02:04] <MattCornell> http://paulsiu.wordpress.com/2006/07/28/recovery-from-a-broken-sudo/
[02:04] <MattCornell> now that I read it... it doesn't have an answer there
[02:04] <MattCornell> that would be great if that was your blog
[02:05] <cntb> ty very much MattCornell
[02:05] <markelhas> MattCornell: going to try
[02:05] <MattCornell> cntb: try going to 'safe mode'
[02:05] <MattCornell> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/sudo
[02:05] <peanutb> anyone know why klipp would be acting up?
[02:05] <justin1278> when i have gnome installed on Kubuntu how can i switch between the KDE and Gnome themes?
[02:05] <cntb> or rescue from CD?
[02:05] <cntb> that sounds like solving
[02:06] <cntb> MattCornell:  must edit sudoers from rescue mode
[02:06] <peanutb> justin1278, there is kdm and gdm. you chose one during install of gnome
[02:06] <cntb> but MattCornell howto reset sudoers file?
[02:07] <justin1278> peanutb, ok i just got that now, but how do i switch when i decide i want to use the other?
[02:07] <markelhas> MattCornell: i don't now what's wrong with the file
[02:07] <MattCornell> well.. first I would backup what I have currently
[02:07] <MattCornell> then I would try to adduser
[02:07] <markelhas> MattCornell: can u show your's to me
[02:07] <MattCornell> I don't use sudo
[02:07] <MattCornell> I like to wear big pants all the time
[02:07] <MattCornell> :)
[02:07] <cntb> lesson to markelhas
[02:08] <cntb> markelhas:  To avoid damaging your sudoers file, always edit it with  sudo visudo
[02:08] <peanutb> justin1278, do you want to switch from gno,e to kde ?
[02:08] <MattCornell> I don't know why people are so scared of root on a single user machine
[02:08] <markelhas> cntb: :(
[02:08] <MattCornell> sudo is really nice... just more overhead then I need
[02:08] <cntb> MattCornell: all PCs are connected to net
[02:08] <justin1278> peanutb, i set KDE as my default because at the moment i prefer KDE but I would like to switch to using gnome every now and then
[02:08] <markelhas> cntb: going to reboot in same mode to check the file
[02:08] <MattCornell> cntb: and....?
[02:09] <peanutb> justin1278, one sec
[02:09] <cntb> and may automatically turn to honeypots MattCornell. that must be the reason why
[02:09] <justin1278> peanutb, is there a way just to change the look from KDE to Gnome?
[02:09] <justin1278> peanutb, ok
[02:09] <MattCornell> um... isn't a honeypot something someone sets up intentionally to attract nefarious activity?
[02:09] <cntb> secvurity discussion is always interesting , though not so easy
[02:10] <MattCornell> sudo only really protects from priviledge escalation from what I understood
[02:10] <peanutb> justin1278, on the login screen, go to Menu>Session type>gnome
[02:10] <cntb> honeypot is ahoneypot than it may turn to be the base of hackers attack
[02:10] <peanutb> justin1278, then just login as normal
[02:10] <justin1278> ok
[02:10] <MattCornell> I'm pretty sure it would just be called a pot then :)
[02:10] <cntb> net split DoS and many nasty  things
[02:11] <justin1278> peanutb, thanks once again!
[02:11] <cntb> I am not expert in any of these
[02:11] <MattCornell> honeypot has a paticular meaning... and it's something a does with the intention of attracting visitors
[02:11] <nekomata> are there any other Azureus users here?
[02:11] <peanutb> justin1278, it was nothing
[02:11] <Kim^J> I got this new haxx... Just write /part
[02:11] <Kim^J> =)
[02:11] <MattCornell> "a does" = "a whitehat (usually) does"
[02:11] <osiris> is there a gui app for creating/destroying partitions ?  i just put in a new hard drive, and want to format it to make it my new /home partition
[02:12] <luca> hi everybody
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> osiris:  gparted is nice. theres vbariants of it out.
[02:12] <peanutb> osiris, qtparted
[02:12] <justin1278> peanutb, and when i wish to use KDE I just type KDE in the same place correct?
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> qtparted/gparted/parted/ or good old fdisk. :)
[02:12] <luca> is there a simple painless method to increase the swap partition w/out having to format everything?
[02:12] <peanutb> justin1278, its a menu
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> luca:  you could always make a swap file and add it to the swap used by the syste,
[02:12] <justin1278> peanutb, ok thanks
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> by the system
[02:12] <cntb> so are you saying MattCornell you are actually with root active in GUI?
[02:12] <peanutb> justin1278, so just choose kde or gnome
[02:13] <luca> or both
[02:13] <osiris> peanutb, Dr_Willis thx
[02:13] <justin1278> ok
[02:13] <luca> or the three of them with xfce :D
[02:13] <MattCornell> cntb: nope... that would be silly. Just when I have to do anything on a system level I just root.
[02:13] <luca> is there any way for changing the swap as you are speaking of partitions?
[02:14] <cntb> there you go MattCornell
[02:14] <luca> my kde is unnaturally slow...ooffice and firefox combined make it crash (???) and I want to see if increasing my 1 gb partition the situation improves
[02:14] <Dr_Willis> you could always boot to a live cd./ and resize the partitions..
[02:14] <Dr_Willis> luca:  how muych ram ya got?
[02:14] <luca> 512 mb
[02:14] <campbch> anyone here play MUDs? if so, what client is the best? or is that a subjective thing?
[02:15] <cntb> if you come across a sudoers solution pls inform me and markelhas who is offline now
[02:15] <dragonfly7> Is there a simple way to sync two folders? (ie: a network music folder and a music folder on my laptop)
[02:15] <Dr_Willis> campbch:  check the freshmeat web site, or the Linux GameTome Site. see whats popular.
[02:15] <peanutb> luca, probably making the partition bigger will help
[02:15] <luca> peanutb: how can I do that?
[02:15] <cntb> rsync dragonfly7 ?
[02:15] <campbch> alright
[02:16] <Dr_Willis> 512mb ram + 1gb swap.. , thtas not too bad.
[02:16] <dragonfly7> cntb: rsync, is that a GUI app?
[02:16] <MattCornell> cntb... the solution is pretty straight forward. You need to boot to the single user mode of your kernel and then repair the sudo files.
[02:16] <charlie5> the disk partition/mount tool seems gone from system settings in edgy ?
[02:16] <peanutb> luca, get qtparted from adept, its pretty self expanatory
[02:16] <Dr_Willis> be easy to add another gb swap file. I just cant rember how.
[02:16] <luca> peanutb which repo?
[02:16] <cntb> MattCornell: repair how
[02:16] <beavis> kubuntu 6.10 has some problems , it does not work on my nf2ultra motherboard where the only harddrive is  sata, fist time it failed to boot x,  the second time it coulnt find the installation at all
[02:16] <MattCornell> well... that woudl require knowing what was wrong :)
[02:16] <charlie5> is there a replacement ?
[02:17] <cntb> ah gotcha
[02:17] <luca> peanutb it is not in the default ones, I am checking
[02:17] <cntb> rtfm 'bout sudoers? no wqay to reset that ?
[02:17] <peanutb> luca, probably universe
[02:17] <luca> peanutb I am trying with gparted
[02:17] <cntb> that makews it less straightforward MattCornell
[02:17] <luca> how much would you advise?
[02:18] <peanutb> luca, i usually give ubuntu at least 3-4 gb
[02:18] <cntb> anyway our frined from Portugal restarted and must be trying smething a that moment
[02:19] <MattCornell> cntb there are two files that could be 'broked'   /etc/sudoers and /etc/group
[02:20] <MattCornell> the sudoers files declares the users and groups that have 'big boy' priviledges
[02:20] <charlie5> sorry ... i must be blind ... just found the 'advanced' tab in "system settings"
[02:20] <luca> peanutb I have a problem
[02:20] <MattCornell> usually says something like:   root ALL=(ALL) ALL
[02:20] <luca> I have a dual boot syste,
[02:20] <luca> system
[02:20] <MattCornell> and then another line for the admin group:  %admin ALL+(ALL) ALL
[02:21] <luca> It does not let me modify the win partition now
[02:21] <MattCornell> whoops... make that %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[02:21] <luca> only the linux one
[02:21] <peanutb> luca, is it ntfs?
[02:21] <luca> yep :(
[02:21] <peanutb> the windows
[02:21] <luca> other problem...how can I modify the linux partition if I have to unmount it before?
[02:22] <markelhas> MattCornell: recovery mode + edit sudousers 100%
[02:22] <luca> I guess that would quite end the session... O_o
[02:22] <markelhas> MattCornell: cntb thkns
[02:22] <peanutb> luca, you probably have to boot into a live cd, sorry forgot to tell you thatr
[02:22] <markelhas> MattCornell: & cntb: thkns
[02:22] <MattCornell> markelhas: You all set?
[02:22] <luca> uh I do not have the live CD
[02:22] <markelhas> MattCornell: yap
[02:22] <luca> good
[02:22] <MattCornell> markelhas: cool... don't get honey potted.
[02:22] <qu1ckfr0st> hey
[02:22] <luca> let the download begin.. :(
[02:22] <MattCornell> :)
[02:23] <markelhas> MattCornell: one more thing
[02:23] <MattCornell> uhoh... I"m sure not to know this
[02:23] <peanutb> luca, thats alwase fun
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> theres several really small live cd's that have the parted tools out.
[02:23] <qu1ckfr0st> i made a new partition thats 4gb with ext3 filetype, that has no os. I want to put ubuntu on that partition, anyone have any idea how I can do that?
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> qu1ckfr0st:  tell the isntaller where its at and to mount it as /
[02:23] <markelhas> MattCornell: when a reboot my kubunt the os hangs
[02:24] <qu1ckfr0st> hm alright
[02:24] <markelhas> MattCornell: i've to shutdow wait a little time then boot my kubuntu
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> Not sure how smart the live cd installer it.. you could just delete the partition, and tell it to use the UNALLOCATED space.
[02:24] <markelhas> MattCornell: any reason for that
[02:24] <markelhas> ?
[02:25] <MattCornell> markelhas: eww... usually you can figure it out from the kernel messages right before it 'hangs'
[02:25] <MattCornell> if there is a kernel panic then you may need to look a few lines 'before' the kernel dumps it's registers
[02:25] <markelhas> MattCornell: the msg is in Alt+F7 right?
[02:25] <luca> peanutb how can I use the torrent option? when I go to the ubuntu download page, I get only the iso download...
[02:26] <luca> other than this: how can I repartition my windows ntf drive without destroying it?
[02:26] <MattCornell> markelhas: usually the dmesg is in the first terminal... and the GUI is on the Alt=F7
[02:26] <Ahmuck> i am getting an error.  kdesu - KDialog Configuration  file"/home/user/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals" not writable
[02:26] <peanutb> luca, there is a torrent file
[02:26] <MattCornell> markelhas: what do you mean by 'hang'? do you have a shell prompt?
[02:26] <peanutb> luca, further down
[02:27] <luca> peanutb forget it...at this speed it will take just half an hour tops
[02:27] <luca> :)
[02:27] <peanutb> :)
[02:27] <markelhas> MattCornell: the re-booting process block in splash screen of kubuntu
[02:27] <luca> what about the NTFS? any suggestions?
[02:27] <peanutb> luca, i know that qtparted can do ntfs
[02:28] <MattCornell> markelhas: ahh - do you mean that you have to power off to reboot?
[02:28] <markelhas> MattCornell: yaps
[02:28] <MattCornell> markelhas: there are any number of reasons for that... I for one am not the person to talk to about that because I too have that problem
[02:29] <markelhas> MattCornell: oki oki
[02:29] <MattCornell> I guess the embedded network interface on my motherboard (e1000) just doesn't give up the ghost on reboot some times
[02:29] <MattCornell> if you have an Intel motherboard then I have had some moderate success with unloading the network driver's module before rebooting
[02:29] <markelhas> MattCornell: oki thnks
[02:29] <markelhas> bye bye
[02:34] <beavis> does nvidia video driver have good support f the 7XXX series cards under linux?
[02:34] <h3sp4wn> beavis: Should be fine
[02:35] <h3sp4wn> beavis: seen a few problems with 7950 (the dual core one) but the others should work fine
[02:35] <m0zone> sup peeps
[02:36] <m0zone> hey in kde whats the task  manager called to like kill runing process lol  :P
[02:36] <beavis> h3sp4wn, thank you, i was thinking about getting 7800gt for a linux box , couse ati drivers are not so good
[02:37] <m0zone> 6600gt  working good here :P el cheapo card tho
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> for the $$ 6600 is a decent value
[02:39] <m0zone> i payed 90$ for mine  and runs q3 like mad same with savage edm and other linux games  warsow loves it also
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> its always nice to see good cards get dirt cheap.
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> warsow.. hmm.. i think i tried that once.. what kind of fps was it?
[02:39] <h3sp4wn> I have been on the lookout for a passive nvidia with 8 pipes
[02:40] <m0zone> warsow has like no lag    nexiuz kills me due to has werid net code keep getin clock on the screen and lockin up
[02:40] <m0zone> dont know warsow on normal setting like 120+ fps
[02:41] <m0zone> hey anyone know if kde has like a process viewer to show everyhting that is running and such  lol
[02:41] <dennister> howdy again
[02:42] <dennister> i finally have my nvidia AND my ivtv drivers installed ... yahoo!
[02:42] <m0zone> how does tv out work ?  can u set full screen video only on tv out?
[02:43] <beavis> m0zone, there is an app that shows all the running processes but i dont know what its called
[02:43] <m0zone> not yet tryed that on mine i got this werid multi plug cord
[02:43] <dennister> don't know yet :) need something to test it with
[02:43] <beavis> m0zone, i havent used linux in a while
[02:43] <luca> peanutb it is qtparted not qparted ;)
[02:43] <m0zone> beavis i found it last night by mistake when my comp freaked out after i played with xgl  need to use it again lol
[02:44] <luca> other little problem...it seems that kdewallet is no more able to store the passwords in the kdewallet :(
[02:44] <dennister> but it's soooooo much easier to get the ivtv stuff in with edgy
[02:44] <m0zone> i set up xgl  works great  but beryl loads like 2 copys when i start it  i need to keel one  and i am a noob
[02:44] <beavis> m0zone, it should be in the menu , look under system
[02:45] <peanutb> luca, :)
[02:45] <luca> anyone: is it SAFE to repartition the NTFS partition from Linux? what should I do before I try?
[02:45] <luca> I do not want to end up with windows completely destroyed
[02:46] <luca> I have already done this operation when I created Ubuntu but...
[02:46] <Search4Lancer> why not?
[02:46] <peanutb> luca, the safest way is to change it with windows
[02:47] <luca> peanutb: how?
[02:47] <peanutb> luca, then leave the free space and add it to ubuntu's partition.
[02:47] <luca> I do not have partition magic...
[02:47] <peanutb> luca, is it xp pro
[02:47] <luca> uhm I guess yeah
[02:48] <luca> (use it seldom - so I am not sure, it was in the laptop. Ubuntu came three days after ;) )
[02:48] <dennister> !plf
[02:48] <ubotu> PLF is the Penguin Liberation Front. For more info see: http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf. PLF is down indefinitely pending a new maintainer; see http://plf.zarb.org/. see also !seveas
[02:48] <luca> m0zone use ksysguard
[02:48] <peanutb> luca, under control pannel there is something called administrative tools, then computer management, it has a module to manage partitions
[02:48] <luca> m0zone if you are using KDE
[02:49] <m0zone> yar thanks
[02:49] <dennister> !seveas
[02:49] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:49] <luca> peanutb thanks
[02:49] <luca> I will finish to download the iso, burn it, and then let it begin :)
[02:50] <luca> I hope it solves my problems - it is really impossible to work in these conditions. Still I do not like sacrificing 3 gb to the swap... :(
[02:50] <BluesKaj> 1G is enuf for a swap
[02:51] <luca> BluesKaj I thought so before my KDE began to slow down in unbearable ways
[02:51] <h3sp4wn> Depends if you want to use suspend2 you need a twice your ram swap partition to be safe
[02:51] <luca> I am not able to use ooffice and firefox at the same time for fear Kubuntu will crash :(
[02:53] <luca> I have had to manually reboot Linux something like tens of times, stop the user processes by using ctrl+alt+f1, in general, I have not been able to use my pc
[02:53] <peanutb> luca, you want to make the swap bigger?
[02:53] <BluesKaj> how much RAM do you have onboard , luca ?
[02:53] <luca> peanutb yeah, I want to see if that is the problem
[02:53] <luca> BlueSkaj 512 mb
[02:53] <peanutb> luca, i very much doubt it
[02:53] <Ahmuck> can i delete .kde
[02:53] <luca> BlueSkaj which are COMPLETELY filled by kubuntu
[02:53] <sorush20> I can'#t see the date on my clock even though I selected to see it what can I do?
[02:54] <Ahmuck> from my home directory ?
[02:54] <BluesKaj> then 3 G isn't going to help...AAMOF it could slow things down
[02:54] <luca> Ahmuck yes you can - but some problems will be on your way :(
[02:54] <luca> BlueSkaj what do you suggest?
[02:54] <peanutb> luca, send us the output of top from the terminal
[02:54] <luca> peanutb cat /proc/meminfo ?
[02:54] <Ahmuck> well, i have problems now, .kde is not writable
[02:55] <BluesKaj> swap file should usually be thew same but not more than RAM ..or so i've been advised
[02:55] <peanutb> luca, issue top at konsole
[02:55] <luca> peanutb which command? sorry if  am thick
[02:55] <peanutb> luca, "top"
[02:55] <h3sp4wn> BluesKaj: Twice the ram - up until you have a gb of swap
[02:56] <luca> ok, how can I send it to you'
[02:56] <luca> ?
[02:56] <peanutb> luca, paste it into pastebin.com
[02:56] <luca> consider that now I have only firefox and little else open
[02:56] <peanutb> luca, and send us a link
[02:57] <BluesKaj> ok , well 1G RAM here, and the swap is 1G
[02:58] <dennister> dang it all...blasted and heck!
[02:58] <peanutb> luca, or dcc it to me
[02:58] <dennister> lol
[02:59] <luca> peanutb one sec...it is hell, as every voice changes in continuum
[02:59] <dennister> kicks herself
[02:59] <luca> I am not able to block it and get a copy
[02:59] <fatejudger> for some reason it seems as though I can't define Global Shortcuts in KMix now that I've upgraded to Edgy
[02:59] <luca> forget it done
[03:00] <luca> :)
[03:00] <fatejudger> has anyone experienced any trouble with these global shortcuts in Edgy?
[03:00] <luca> sending...
[03:01] <m0zone> anyone have the problem of konq sending .run type files to kate when i try and download one :P
[03:02] <luca> uh how do I send something? it keeps giving me 'error'
[03:02] <peanutb> u probablky havent registered your nick.
[03:02] <peanutb> paste it into pastebin.com
[03:05] <luca> uhm ok I will register first..
[03:06] <nickv111> Hi. I have a lot of packages that should be upgraded since I upgraded to Edgy, but they're all being held back
[03:07] <nickv111> On both of my Kubuntu boxes
[03:07] <dennister> i seem to be having some real problems with seveas repo, as well as his mirror
[03:07] <nickv111> 37 packages are being held back from upgrading, including amarok and python packages.
[03:07] <dennister> i must have edited my sources.list 1/2 dozen times
[03:10] <peanutb> Edgy was sorta shoved out it seems.
[03:11] <BluesKaj> only had a few probs ...everything that worked in dapper works in edgy and some others that didn't work before do now
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> im glad i did a clean install :)
[03:12] <dennister> i really love how u can download the ivtv drivers from repos in edgy
[03:12] <luca> peanutb it is something like 10 minutes now that pastebin is trying to paste my file... :(
[03:12] <dennister> awesome!
[03:13] <mhz> hi all
[03:13] <dennister> there were absolutely no errors
[03:13] <luca> peanutb may I just transfer the txt to you in dcc?
[03:14] <BluesKaj> luca  try www.pastebin.ca instead ...it's not as busy
[03:14] <nickv111> dennister: Wow! Really? I've had a card supported by them for quite some time now
[03:14] <nickv111> dennister: Excellent.
[03:15] <dennister> which card nickv111?
[03:15] <peanutb> luca, shur
[03:16] <peanutb> luca, just see which one looks like it is taking up a lot of ram in top
[03:17] <luca> http://pastebin.ca/241290
[03:18] <luca> Xorg???
[03:18] <nickv111> dennister: I forget.
[03:18] <nickv111> dennister: I think it's a PVR-150
[03:18] <luca> It does not even come out in the ksysguard!
[03:18] <peanutb> luca, it seems fine
[03:18] <luca> ok now I try with ooffice too....if I am able to avoid the crash, I will send you the report
[03:19] <peanutb> luca, type kill konsole at konsole
[03:20] <peanutb> luca, its taking up a lot of ram
[03:20] <luca> killall -9 konsole ;)
[03:20] <peanutb> yah
[03:20] <nickv111> dennister: How did you set up the card? I've done it on gentoo, but never on Ubuntu
[03:20] <luca> ok I will have to reactivate it again in some minutes I guess
[03:20] <nickv111> dennister: Could you point me to an up-to-date manual on how to set up the card for Ubuntu?
[03:21] <peanutb> luca, is ooo working now
[03:21] <peanutb> luca, or is it faster
[03:21] <luca> it is slowing down the machine as always
[03:22] <peanutb> luca, sorry i have to go.
[03:22] <luca> np :)
[03:22] <nickv111> dennister: I'm using http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Howto:Ubuntu now, with some obvious adjustments (not using the repository he provided)
[03:22] <JymmmEMC> I tried ADD/REMOVE programs but I get "SU returned with an error" what gives?
[03:22] <dhuv> hello all
[03:23] <peanutb> luca, nevermind
[03:23] <dennister> nickv111: just a minute, i'm trying to get it for u.
[03:23] <luca> in any case it is already slowing
[03:23] <peanutb> luca, i dont rilly know how to help you.
[03:23] <luca> it takes 2 seconds to iconify ooffice... :(
[03:24] <dennister> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Edgy_Backend_Frontend_Desktop
[03:24] <luca> he I would really like to know how to do it myself :)
[03:24] <dhuv> I am a debian/kde user and want to try out kubuntu on a new laptop that I got.
[03:24] <dhuv> the problem is that this laptop has an nvidia ethernet and audio controller
[03:24] <dennister> it has several pages within that page...the lir/remote section is pretty extensive
[03:24] <dhuv> according to this page (http://xopen.dyndns.org/linux/v6024ea/ ) it should work
[03:24] <dhuv> but the installation stops detecting the network controller
[03:25] <dennister> Dr_Willis: u still here?
[03:25] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: Allo
[03:25] <nikkun> dhuv: what to you mean stops?
[03:25] <nikkiana> hi DaSkreech
[03:25] <dhuv> it hangs detecting network hardware
[03:25] <peanutb> luca,at last resort,  you might try a new install.
[03:25] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: How are you doing?
[03:25] <nikkiana> DaSkreech: not too shabby
[03:25] <dhuv> when I hit alt+ctrl+del, the blue screen goes away and I can see that its trying to initialize eth1 (wireless ipw2100) but it cannot
[03:25] <nikkun> dhuv: do you have a ethernet cord pluged in that sends a signal?
[03:26] <luca> peanutb: I'd rather avoid that - I do not have a pc upon which to make a sync, it would mean writing four or more dvds :(
[03:26] <Dr_Willis> huh?
[03:26] <dhuv> I do have the cable plugged into the nic
[03:26] <dhuv> nikkun: but it still does the same thing
[03:26] <JymmmEMC> Any ideas on what/where to look to resolve this?   I tried using "ADD/REMOVE programs" on an install no less than 10 minutes old,  but I get "SU returned with an error"
[03:26] <dhuv> I will try again if needed
[03:26] <dennister> i have an issue that's been present since the beginning of my installation
[03:26] <dennister> i've put the error codes in http://pastebin.ca/241300
[03:27] <nikkun> dhuv: hmm i have had my laptop hang when nothing is plugged in but i have never heard it hanging while geting a singel
[03:27] <dennister> would you be able to tell me what's going on there? and how to fix it?
[03:27] <dhuv> nikkun: let me give it another try
[03:27] <peanutb> luca, i guess post to ubuntuforums
[03:27] <dhuv> I am trying 6.10
[03:27] <dhuv> just an fyi
[03:28] <nikkun> dhuv: ok try using ctrl-c to skip over it if it hangs again
[03:28] <Dr_Willis> dennister:  care to give a summary?
[03:28] <nickv111> dennister: Thank you
[03:28] <dennister> this same string of error codes comes up every time i try to edit any file, yet i can edit it, close, save, etc.
[03:28] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: Exellent :)
[03:29] <Jymmm> couls someone repeat what they jsut said to me?
[03:29] <dennister> so it's not hampering me, but it's still worrisome
[03:29] <dennister> np nickv111; remember, it's the new edgy
[03:29] <m0zone> denn i get same errors
[03:30] <m0zone> like if i do a sudo abiword kate etc  apt/sources.list  console fills full of errors
[03:30] <m0zone> save and such works fine tho
[03:30] <david_> xgl, aixgl or nothing?
[03:30] <Dr_Willis> err touchpad.. heh
[03:31] <Dr_Willis> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[03:31] <Dr_Willis> is refering to a touchpad/tablet that dont exist...
[03:31] <dennister> exactly
[03:32] <Dr_Willis> trivial.. edit the xorg.conf and remove the offending entrys/edit the server layout.. or not worry about it. :)
[03:32] <nikkun> dont worry about it
[03:32] <Dr_Willis> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[03:32] <Dr_Willis> is proerly due to how you su/ran the program.
[03:32] <nikkun> i have tried removing the lines from xorg but unless you know how to tack down all the right lines you will probably break the whole thing
[03:32] <dhuv> nikkun: its hanging again, is there anyway to hide the blue screen so that I can see whats going on in the console?
[03:32] <dennister> but how did u determine it was trying to load a browser, touchpad, etc?
[03:33] <Dr_Willis> nikkun:  remove the entrys.. edit the serverlayout part. and remove the mention of the device..
[03:33] <Dr_Willis> dennister:  err... i looked at the xorg.conf and saw it had an entry for it. :P
[03:33] <Dr_Willis> heh
[03:33] <nikkun> Dr_Willis: i tried that once i got a blue error screen lol
[03:33] <Dr_Willis> experience?
[03:33] <Dr_Willis> nikkun:  heh took me 2 min...
[03:33] <nikkun> dhuv: i dont know how to but does it work on the LiveCD?
[03:34] <dennister> ahhhh...so i can just take those whole sections out of xorg?
[03:34] <dhuv> nikkun: this is the alternate cd
[03:34] <dhuv> I downloaded it to to install
[03:34] <dhuv> today to install
[03:34] <Dr_Willis> dennister:  if you want to - theres a factoid on the topic somewhere in the bot
[03:34] <nikkun> dhuv: the LiveCD is also to install >.<
[03:34] <Dr_Willis> !169
[03:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 169 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:34] <Dr_Willis> !touchpad
[03:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about touchpad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:35] <Dr_Willis> check the wiki/forums :)
[03:35] <dhuv> nikkun: what eventually happens is that it goes to 2% if you let it stay for a little while and it says "Loading module 'floppy' for 'Linux Floppy'"
[03:36] <nikkun> dhuv: i wonder if you didnt install some things with the alt install disc.  Personally i have never used it so i dont know what the setup would look like
[03:37] <Dr_Willis> i always use the alt-install cd. :)
[03:37] <Alter-Ego> i just lost my data partition -- /home
[03:38] <Alter-Ego> but the other partitions seem to be there on that drive, hdb1, 2, 5, etc.
[03:38] <Alter-Ego> any chance i could get 3 back ?
[03:38] <unix_infidel> are you sure you dont want 4 ?
[03:38] <Alter-Ego> i am booting from hda1
[03:38] <dennister> ok, have to restart x...bbs
[03:38] <Alter-Ego> unix_infidel: :-p
[03:38] <Dr_Willis> check 'fdisk -l' output -, see if it says anything about it?
[03:39] <Dr_Willis> sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb
[03:39] <Alter-Ego> if my main installation is on hda1, and i lost drive hdb, would it still show those partitions on hdb?
[03:39] <Alter-Ego> k, brb
[03:39] <Dr_Willis> depends on how you 'lost' it.
[03:39] <Dr_Willis> lost isent very 'specific' :)
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> i had issues with a hard drive - due to an ide cable wire getting cut ona sharp edge of the case.
[03:41] <dhuv> nikkun: so I should be downloading the "Desktop CD" and not the "Alternate install CD"
[03:43] <Alter-Ego> k, it shows it is still there
[03:44] <Alter-Ego> er, if i created /home/Alter-Ego in an attempt to get a KDE Login, does that screw things up for me ?
[03:44] <nikkun> dhuv: i would advise of it since it would tell you at the least if its a problem with the install or not
[03:46] <untung> hello
[03:47] <digivore> what do i do when my kubuntu doesn't load into KDE anymore?  jsut gives me the command prompt login... ?
[03:47] <dhuv> nikkun: is there anyway I can put that iso on a usbdrive rather than burn a CD? I am out of CDs for tonight
[03:47] <untung> i am using ubuntu 6.06, does anyone know the divx player for ubuntu?
[03:47] <dhuv> :)
[03:47] <BluesKaj> !divx
[03:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:48] <nikkun> dhuv: sadly ubuntu doesnt have a way of doing that :(
[03:49] <digivore> I upgraded to edgy and now my system doesn't start in the KDE GUI login screen.. i'm really confused.  any ideas??
[03:49] <BluesKaj> dhuv, you have to change your BIOS setting to boot from the USB drive
[03:50] <BluesKaj> where does it start?
[03:51] <BluesKaj> at the bootuppage ?
[03:51] <Dr_Willis> digivore:  try 'startx' and see if any errors show up.
[03:51] <Dr_Willis> digivore:  you may need to reinstall the video card drivers
[03:52] <bLaZeD> how can i tell if my computer is using ht...isnt there a command to check?
[03:52] <bLaZeD> like cat something
[03:53] <h3sp4wn> digivore: You need to remove the reminants of xserver-xorg-driver-*
[03:53] <h3sp4wn> bLaZeD: /proc/cpuinfo (if you only have one cpu and it says 2 hyperthreading is enabled)
[03:53] <bLaZeD> ahh k thanks h3sp4wn
[03:54] <h3sp4wn> (obviously if you have 2 cpu's with hyperthreading it should show 4)
[03:55] <Zaire> how do you unzip a .zip from cli?
[03:55] <unix_infidel> Zaire: man unzip or try 7zip
[03:55] <dhuv> BluesKaj: I had to resize the windows XP partition so I installed gnomeparted on the usbdrive and it boots from there
[03:55] <Zaire> k
[03:56] <dhuv> the thing with that is that the initrd image is setup to load the usbdrivers or something
[03:56] <h3sp4wn> dhuv: You can boot the netboot kernel quite easily from a usbdrive
[03:57] <h3sp4wn> dhuv: If you install grub onto it
[03:57] <digivore> Dr_Willis: i typed 'startx' and it flashed into the gui, but then came back with some errors..
[03:57] <dhuv> nikkun: I think the problem was that it was always trying to load the ipw2100 module even though it had eth0, ipw2100 I think needs firmware to load
[03:57] <dhuv> I removed the minipci card and its working
[03:58] <Dr_Willis> h3sp4wn> digivore: You need to remove the reminants of xserver-xorg-driver-*
[03:58] <digivore> how do i do that?
[03:58] <nikkun> dhuv: ahh that makes sense
[03:58] <Dr_Willis> no clue - a always do clean reinstalls :)
[03:58] <h3sp4wn> digivore: sudo aptitude purge xserver-xorg-driver~i
[03:59] <bLaZeD> hmm well its saying i have on ecpu.....which is true..but its got ht
[03:59] <h3sp4wn> bLaZeD: run (uname -r)
[03:59] <dhuv> cool its installing, what do you guys think? should this be reported as a bug in the installer
[04:00] <bLaZeD> h3sp4wn, im running a new kernel
[04:00] <BluesKaj> dhuv, so you have an hda3 partition and a swap for linux beside the ntfs partition ?
[04:00] <bLaZeD> h3sp4wn, but i copied the settings over from the one that was installed by default
[04:00] <dhuv> I have /boot, swap, /, NTFS
[04:00] <untung> Hi I use samba server to share directory, but I can not open it with my password in other computer
[04:01] <dhuv> untung: whats the error?
[04:01] <bLaZeD> h3sp4wn, <IP_ADDRESS>-386 was the kernl i was using untill about 2 hours ago
[04:01] <dhuv> can you access that share from any other computer
[04:01] <h3sp4wn> bLaZeD: well what was the name of the one you was running previously - if you build your own kernel you would need to compile for 686 at lease
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> untung:  sudo smbpasswd -a LINUXUSER   < -try that yet?
[04:01] <untung> dhuv: no error
[04:01] <h3sp4wn> bLaZeD: hyperthreading is a 686 specific instruction so without compiling for 686 it won't work
[04:01] <dhuv> can you get to that share from another computer?
[04:02] <untung> Dr_Willis: do i have to set password from my ubuntu?
[04:02] <bLaZeD> h3sp4wn, i looked in adept and i didnt even see a 686 in the repos
[04:02] <h3sp4wn> bLaZeD: You would have been better with the config for <IP_ADDRESS>-generic (that supports hyperthreading)
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> untung:  a SAMBA password yes
[04:02] <untung> Dr_Willis: I can not open the directory in other computer using my ubuntu login password
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> !samba
[04:02] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[04:03] <dennister> ok, i screwed up big time :(
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> a users login password is NOT the same as their samba password
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> they can be synced  however
[04:03] <dennister> hello Dr_Willis
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> hi dennister
[04:03] <dennister> i got overconfident with that edit of xorg.conf :(
[04:03] <Zaire> k how do you unzip a .tar.gz?
[04:04] <bLaZeD> h3sp4wn, hmm i haave the generic one installed also
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> !info unp
[04:04] <ubotu> unp: unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.10 (edgy), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB
[04:04] <dennister> i'm now in livecd mode as a result
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> :)
[04:04] <Zaire> k how do you unzip a .tar.gz?
[04:04] <cntb> say untar Zaire
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> tar xzvf  whatever , or use unp
[04:05] <dennister> and while i've mounted the / parition on the hdd, the old xorg.conf files i had are nowhere to be seen
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> linux 101
[04:05] <Zaire> Im doing this remote ssh
[04:05] <DaSkreech> How do I measure performance or tune performance in Linux?
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> dennister:  not in /etc/X11 ?
[04:05] <untung> Dr_Willis: I tried the samba password and it works! Thanks!
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> :)
[04:06] <dennister> when i tried to rename them while in terminal (no x could start) i was told renaming couldn't be done in 'strict subs'
[04:06] <natex> anyone using the koffice 1.6 packages?
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> i bet its read only  untung
[04:06] <Alter-Ego> Dr_Willis: it still shows hdb3 as there
[04:06] <dennister> Dr_Willis: ?
[04:06] <bLaZeD> im gonna go reboot the the default kubuntu kernel...see if i can figure it out
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> 'strict subs'? never heard that befor
[04:07] <dennister> never? i have...file permissions or something like that...no, not perms, something stricter
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> Alter-Ego:  try to mount it manually yet? try fsck /dev/hdb3 yet?
[04:08] <dennister> how come, while i'm in livecd and cd'd to hdds /etc/X11 directory, I can't see the xorg.conf files?
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> dennister:  its int in /etc/ its in the mounted dirs etc
[04:08] <Zaire> ok whats the command to chmod a directory to 777?
[04:09] <Dr_Willis> dennister:  its not in /etc/ its in the mounted dirs etc
[04:09] <the-erm> What's the name of the program that sits in your system tray and notifies you when updates are available?  I disabled mine by accident.
[04:09] <dennister> ahh...k...let me get to the other directory on the hdd
[04:09] <BluesKaj> yeah it's adept
[04:09] <natex> dennister: like /mnt/hdd/etc/
[04:10] <dennister> that's right...was having trouble creating a /mnt/ for /
[04:11] <natex> BTW this is my first hour with Kubuntu... i'm fairly impressed
[04:11] <the-erm> thanks I guess I should have just typed in adept_<tab> to find out it's adept_notifier I need.
[04:16] <dennister> let's try again...bbs
[04:16] <DaSkreech> What can I use to measure performance or tune performance in Linux?
[04:16] <Dr_Willis> Doom3 :)
[04:19] <terry> Hi everyone - I installed gcc via adept but i get this message when configuring my app - checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables - any ias?
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> install build-essentials
[04:20] <dennister> ok...back with the unedited-wacom xorg...lol
[04:20] <terry> thanks
[04:20] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: What type of performance
[04:21] <DaSkreech> Like HDD performance
[04:21] <dennister> see what i mean? don't 'stuff up' your xorg
[04:21] <DaSkreech> For instance
[04:21] <DaSkreech>  I guess I can use nice for CPU performance
[04:21] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: use smartutils
[04:21] <nekomata> to get around the bug of kde not being able to mount external HDDs, I'm trying to mount from CLI, but then I'm stuck with a mounted drive that only root has permissions to. is there anything you can add to the mount command to let normal users then add/delete from the drive?
[04:21] <DaSkreech> alright thanks
[04:21] <dhuv> Is there anyway I can pick packages that will be installed during a kubuntu installation?
[04:22] <dhuv> for instance I only want openoffice not koffice
[04:22] <dhuv> I see thats its installing everything besides gnome :)
[04:22] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: The problem is with linux although there are benchmarks for specific server workloads there is not any generic ones that I know of (like 3dmark or whatever it is called etc for windows)
[04:22] <dennister> can different distros share combined /home, /var/ and /video partitions like they do the swap?
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> heh i never want openoffice. :)
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> dennister:  shareing those can cause issues..
[04:22] <nekomata> dennister: I've always been warned against that ;o)
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> dennister:  you can mount/access them however..
[04:22] <dhuv> Dr_Willis: choice is good, but how can I tell it what I want?
[04:23] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: I'm more interested in teh utning than the benchmark
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> dhuv:  dont think you can.
[04:23] <dhuv> lol
[04:23] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: Well use gentoo
[04:23] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: It's simply that you have to benchmark or else you won't know whow your tuning went
[04:23] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: How does that help?
[04:23] <dennister> ewhat about the /video partition thats in xfs fs?
[04:23] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: You can tune your entire system
[04:24] <natex> dhuv: openoffice is installed by default, koffice is not
[04:24] <DaSkreech> using what tools?
[04:24] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: portage
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> dennister:  you can mount/use/read/write to the,. BUT using the other disrtos /var/ is not a good idea. /home may cause issues as well.
[04:24] <DaSkreech> Suppose I want one app say a database to use the hard drive cache aggresively
[04:24] <DaSkreech>  is that possible?
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> with /home it may be userid/permission issues mainly
[04:24] <dhuv> natex: I saw packages go by that said koffice
[04:24] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: If the program can be configured in that way you can do it
[04:24] <Zaire> ok I chmodded my directories vanilla told me to change and its still not letting me install it
[04:25] <DaSkreech> ok so the only real way to tune your system is nice?
[04:25] <natex> dhuv: maybe some libs, but that happens on a debian system (extra libs) ;)
[04:25] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: You can also choose what features are in and not in every single app
[04:25] <dennister> ok...so i won't with the var, definitely, but maybe move my kubuntu /home parition to the other one?
[04:25] <K`zan> How difficult / involved is it to get the nvidia drivers installed in ubuntu?  The xorg ones leave a bit to be desired :).  TIA.
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> dennister:  what is the other disrto? you may have to chmod/chown the whole dir.
[04:25] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: If you are running a realtime kernel you can do some more funky stuff with priorities
[04:25] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: Witl compile flags?
[04:26] <dennister> the other distro is kanotix
[04:26] <DaSkreech> aren't real time kernels a (tm) Bad Thing (c)?
[04:26] <dhuv> natex: OK I will check it out after the install
[04:26] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: Makes desktop performance feel loads faster
[04:26] <dhuv> does kubuntu edgy come with firefox 2, or can I upgrade to 2?
[04:26] <natex> dhuv: anyways, you might like koffice
[04:27] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: Some overhead though (but less than 10%)
[04:27] <dennister> oh, but Kanotix recommended reiser as the fs for /home
[04:27] <dhuv> natex: perhaps
[04:27] <h3sp4wn> dennister: reiser3 is pretty stable
[04:27] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: would it be detrimental to a server load?
[04:27] <natex> dhuv: firefox isn't installed by default, but easily added
[04:28] <nekomata> can anyone tell me please how to mount an external HDD for non-root to use?
[04:28] <dennister> the /video with xfs fs is the biggest partition...so because reiser is stable i could use that /home parition for kubuntu?
[04:28] <Hawkwind> dhuv: It comes with 2.0b2 IIRC and there is updates to 2.0 final for it already
[04:28] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: What exactly are you attempting to do ?
[04:28] <dennister> hi Hawkwind :)
[04:28] <Hawkwind> dennister: Hey there
[04:28] <DaSkreech> Find out what are myu options to twekaing performance ona Unix machine
[04:28] <dhuv> Hawkwind: awesome
[04:29] <dennister> nekomata: u edit fstab
[04:29] <dhuv> still waiting for it to finish installing
[04:29] <dhuv> after its installed, I am going to check it out and perhaps install on this T42
[04:29] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: It depends entirely on which application
[04:29] <nekomata> dennister: edit fstab every time the sdx allocations change?
[04:29] <dennister> nekomata: oops...no, it's external
[04:30] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: Things that may improve performance for one thing may make something else slower
[04:30] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: Lets say a database with a service to the outside world
[04:30] <dennister> don't mind me...i was having the same issue and i finally solved it, but it was an itnernal local drive
[04:30] <Ahmuck>  /dev/hdb1               1       41613    20972826    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[04:30] <Ahmuck> Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
[04:30] <Ahmuck> is that bad ?
[04:31] <Ahmuck> Dr_Willis: is that bad ?
[04:31] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: biggest performance gains from that would be designing the database right
[04:31] <dennister> Hawkwind: i have edgy here now...and the ivtv drivers were a breeze...no errors at all! :)
[04:31] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: ha ha :)
[04:31] <Ahmuck> Dr_Willis: i was able to get back, after many errors it did come back
[04:31] <Ahmuck> but i am not sure what is going on
[04:31] <Hawkwind> terry: Please don't do that
[04:31] <dennister> so much easier to download them from repos
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> Ahmuck:  time to BACKUP the data... I think
[04:31] <Ahmuck> ya, me too
[04:32] <Ahmuck> tomorrow evening, after i get home with a new hard drive
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> imbaking stuff to dvd rght now.. been doing it for 3 days lol
[04:32] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: It depends on how many queries you are processing a second and what they are and loads of other stuff
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> I got like 200gb of EMulator files. :)
[04:32] <Hawkwind> dennister: Kewl.  So all is running well for ya then ?
[04:32] <dennister> almost...lirc is taking longer than i thought
[04:32] <K`zan> Thanks anyhoo folks!
[04:32] <Ahmuck> actaully, that would be a good idea for my core files
[04:33] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: Ok is there a group I can hang out with or a web page for Performacing fir Dummies?
[04:33] <dennister> rather complicated...then i can get the myth packages and and the epg
[04:33] <DaSkreech> Any one on dapper who plays TMW?
[04:33] <dennister> but i'm still not sure the picture will be transferred from tuner to video card
[04:35] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: I don't know - (but gentoo has alot of ricers) only performance tuning I have done is for specific applications - and I was using a benchmark written for our application (by someone who wrote part of it)
[04:35] <Hawkwind> dennister: What TV tuner card do you have ?
[04:35] <DaSkreech> k
[04:35] <dennister> hauppauge wintv 250
[04:36] <Hawkwind> dennister: I've got Haupauge Win-TVPro or something that I had nothing but major problems trying to get it working in Mandriva a year or so ago
[04:37] <dennister> i bought this one specifically for my linux migration...it was the one line of cards that seemed the most compatible according to my resarch
[04:37] <Hawkwind> Yeah, it's got a bt88 chipset, which is the most compatible. Mine has the same which is why I bought it too
[04:37] <n8k99> is there a reason that koffice 1.6 is not availibe for ppc?
[04:37] <Hawkwind> dennister: Just getting it working in Mandriva was nothing but major headaches and battles
[04:38] <dennister> my tuner has conexant chipset...ivtv drivers instead of bttv...tuners are always difficult, even in windoze
[04:40] <seishinbyou> Does anyone have any recommendations for a decent laptop on which Kubuntu (or any Linux distro) would run well?  This LaVie isn't all that great for it
[04:44] <dhuv> during the installation of kubuntu, I was asked to create a new user account but never asked to enter a password for root, now I cannot su? Is there a default password?
[04:44] <seishinbyou> sudo su -
[04:45] <h3sp4wn> sudo > dhuv
[04:45] <dennister> use the same password as for ur username
[04:45] <h3sp4wn> use sudo -i running sudo and su is dumb
[04:45] <natex> anyone with edgy having problems with Adept?
[04:46] <dennister> i like sudo -s  ...it stays for awhile
[04:46] <h3sp4wn> sudo -s doesn't do the same thing as sudo -i or sudo su -
[04:46] <dennister> not me, although i haven't had edgy for more than 6 hrs :)
[04:47] <dennister> i bow to ur judgement h3sp4wn; i'm a noob
[04:47] <natex> adept is crashing on me, says "can't communicate with su" bleh
[04:47] <h3sp4wn> dennister: use kdesu (for graphical applications that need to be root) and sudo -i
[04:48] <dennister> what's the -i swtich mean?
[04:48] <h3sp4wn> dennister: sudo -s or sudo - can screw your permissions up on files in your home directory
[04:48] <dennister> and -i doesn't?
[04:48] <dhuv> h3sp4wn: thanks, worked well
[04:49] <h3sp4wn> dennister: -i makes it a login shell
[04:49] <h3sp4wn> dennister: run from sudo -s and sudo -i
[04:49] <h3sp4wn> dennister: echo $HOME
[04:49] <dhuv> so I just finished the kubuntu edgy installation but no sound, /proc/asound/cards shows the correct card, kmix shows master and pcm unmuted and turned up, but no sound
[04:49] <dennister> ah...i know i certainly had to do a heck of a lot of chowning back when i was transferring a huge ton of files...about 50g in mp3 files
[04:49] <dhuv> does anybody have any suggestions?
[04:49] <dennister> and movie/avi files
[04:50] <Zaire> omg vanilla forum interace sucks lol
[04:50] <untung> hi, I wanted  to intall vlc. does anyone know how?
[04:50] <untung> I cannot find the program in Synaptics
[04:50] <natex> dhuv: try alsamixer
[04:51] <dennister> ok h3sp4wn...i see what u mean
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> !info vlc
[04:51] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> In component universe,
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> !repos
[04:51] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:51] <dennister> i'll try to remember that
[04:51] <n8k99> is there a reason Koffice 1.6 is not availble for ppc?
[04:52] <n8k99> in edgy?
[04:52] <dennister> ok...back to my lirc configs...that's a huge howto
[04:52] <Akuma_> when i try to boot the ubuntu cd, i get the first options screen and choose 'boot or install'; but then the computer restarts and comes back to the same screen .. what can i do about that?
[04:52] <dennister> i'll leave the bloody wacom in xorg til later
[04:53] <natex> Akuma_: remove the CD?
[04:53] <Akuma_> natex: ... i wanna install it
[04:54] <natex> Akuma_: you let the live CD boot up first, then click the "Install" icon on the live desktop
[04:54] <BluesKaj> Akuma_, what's your pc ?
[04:54] <Akuma_> natex: i can't get to the desktop .. i can't get past the first screen, before the kernel even boots
[04:54] <Akuma_> BluesKaj: its a no name laptop
[04:54] <Sheazsche> is there a way to turn off my trackpad while i type? i keep putting my palm on it
[04:55] <Akuma_> BluesKaj: Hasee ...
[04:55] <BluesKaj> have you partitioned the HDD , Akuma_?
[04:55] <Akuma_> BluesKaj: no, not yet. i'd do that when installing
[04:56] <natex> Akuma_: what happens when you put in the kubuntu cd and reboot?
[04:57] <Akuma_> natex: it sees the cd and kicks in, then gives me the first screen (dunno how its called ...), but then whatever option i choose, it reboots and the screen is displayed again
[04:57] <dennister> is listening to Heoe/Il Divo on Amarok
[04:57] <dennister> *Heroe
[04:57] <natex> Akuma_: so the demo "live" systen never boots up? ok
[04:58] <Akuma_> natex: right
[04:58] <BluesKaj> make sure you use the tab button to see all the options
[04:58] <natex> Akuma_: check the cd (md5) first
[04:58] <Akuma_> natex: i thought the cd might have been corrupted, but its not. i tried 3 diff. ones
[04:58] <natex> oh
[04:59] <Akuma_> its like a frickin curse. every time i try to switch to linux there always something! :/
[04:59] <natex> geez
[04:59] <Akuma_> *there's
[04:59] <natex> sounds like you laptop isn't playing nice
[05:00] <Sheazsche> is there a way to turn off my trackpad while i type? i keep putting my palm on it
[05:00] <Akuma_> natex: it isnt at all.
[05:01] <seishinbyou> My laptop doesn't play nice either; it's a compromise in the end
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> Sheazsche:  theres that ksynaptic tool.
[05:01] <Akuma_> natex: whats the next step right after loading the kernel?
[05:01] <Sheazsche> do i have to apt get, or is it installed
[05:01] <seishinbyou> Hence I asked if there were any recommended laptop models earlier
[05:01] <Hawkwind> Sheazsche: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/09/20/disable-touchpad-temporarily-when-typing/
[05:01] <natex> Akuma_: the live system is uncompressed and the desktop is booted
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> !info ksynaptic
[05:01] <ubotu> Package ksynaptic does not exist in any distro I know
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> hmm what is it called...
[05:01] <natex> Akuma_: err.. probably hardware detection first
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> i saw it on my laptop
[05:02] <Akuma_> seishinbyou: you could try linux-laptop.net ..
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> it lets me turn off the touchpad on my laptop.
[05:03] <Akuma_> natex: how long would hardware detection take ?
[05:03] <natex> Akuma_: for me, less than a minute
[05:03] <Akuma_> natex: after the kernel is loaded, i get a black screen, then about 1 or 2 words flash by, then it reboots ...
[05:03] <BluesKaj> Akuma_, maybe your laptop won't handle kubuntu ...i had an old pc that did the same thing you're decribing ...the Ram was too low for one thing
[05:04] <Akuma_> BluesKaj: i've installed it many times before
[05:04] <Akuma_> BluesKaj: including 3 times in vmware last week
[05:04] <BluesKaj> kubuntu ?
[05:04] <Akuma_> BluesKaj: actually, ubuntu
[05:04] <natex> Akuma_: has kernel 2.6 given this laptop trouble?
[05:04] <Sheazsche> crap my xorg doesnt have an input device synaptics section........
[05:05] <BluesKaj> then it's prolly seeing remnant files and thinks it's already there
[05:05] <Akuma_> natex: i have no idea which kernel version is in which distro ...
[05:05] <Akuma_> natex: but i did try both 6.06 and 6.10 cds, both behave the same
[05:06] <Akuma_> BluesKaj: hmm.. interesting
[05:06] <Akuma_> BluesKaj: how do i look for that then?
[05:06] <natex> Akuma_: both use kernel 2.6, you may want to try another distro with 2.6 to see if it is a k/ubuntu problem. (I suggest zenwalk)
[05:06] <BluesKaj> reformat the HDD in ext3
[05:07] <Akuma_> BluesKaj: i have an XP install that i unfortunatly can't get rid of just yet
[05:08] <BluesKaj> I suggest a linux and swap partition before you try to load the install cd
[05:08] <Daskreech2> How do I track down what is causing a break on upgrade?
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> live cd's + a usb drive/stick are soo handy :)
[05:09] <Akuma_> BluesKaj: i usually rely on linux to do that for me ... i don't have the skills to do that without a lot of time learning first
[05:09] <BluesKaj> gparted is a good gnome partitioning program
[05:10] <BluesKaj> gparted is easy to use once you do some reading on how it works
[05:10] <Akuma_> BluesKaj: gnome? well im still in windows .. i guess maybe partition magic?
[05:11] <BluesKaj> no, Stay away from partiton magic ...it's dangerous and unstable
[05:11] <Akuma_> BluesKaj: why do i need ext3+swap partitions _before_ i install though?
[05:12] <kdean06> Does anyone have any tips for making vmplayer fit in more with KDE visually?
[05:12] <BluesKaj> kubuntu will see them and it will ask you if you want to install there instead of partitioning inside the install process
[05:12] <Akuma_> BluesKaj: i see
[05:12] <BluesKaj> it much easier and safer , Akuma_
[05:13] <mluser-home> does anyone happen to know what the correct package name for the ati fglrx drivers is called for edgy?
[05:13] <Akuma_> BluesKaj: but if like you said ubuntu doesnt want to boot because its seeing remnants, won't it still see them afterwards?
[05:14] <BluesKaj> not if you format in ext3
[05:14] <BluesKaj> it will wipe them off the drive
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> or just leave a section of the HD unallocated. and tell the installer to use it.
[05:15] <BluesKaj> mluser-home, you have the right right name , fglrx are the drivers for ATI in Edgy
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> there are gparted/qtparted live cd's that are worth tracking down and keeping in your "Box-o-pc-tools(tm)" :)
[05:15] <natex> Akuma_: there shouldn't be any "remnants" from a botched live-cd boot
[05:15] <DaSkreech> How do I track down what is causing a break on upgrade?
[05:16] <mluser-home> BluesKaj: Is that the name of the package or is it 'fglrx-kernel' or 'fglrx-driver' ?
[05:16] <BluesKaj> there may be some from previous versions of linux OS's
[05:16] <mluser-home> !fglrx
[05:16] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:16] <Akuma_> natex: what else you think it could be then?
[05:17] <Akuma_> BluesKaj: i didnt install any other linux distro then ubuntu
[05:17] <BluesKaj> hmmm
[05:17] <Akuma_> even ubuntu i didn't 'really' install
[05:17] <BluesKaj> fglrx driver
[05:18] <natex> Akuma_: some hardware (esp. laptops) aren't great with hardware detection from linux
[05:18] <natex> Akuma_: you need to try to pass some arguments to the kernel at boot
[05:18] <Akuma_> natex: so what could have happen to it? cause it used to be fine
[05:19] <Akuma_> natex: like which ones?
[05:19] <BluesKaj> then if the partitioning won't work ... it's past my level\
[05:19] <natex> Akuma_: dunno.
[05:19] <natex> Akuma_: you have used a linux live cd on this laptop before?
[05:19] <Akuma_> natex: yes.
[05:19] <natex> Akuma_: which one/version?
[05:20] <Akuma_> natex: 6.06
[05:20] <natex> Akuma_: ok it worked fine?
[05:20] <Akuma_> natex: as a live cd yes
[05:21] <BluesKaj> well, getting late here ...gonna hit the sack
[05:21] <Akuma_> BluesKaj: thanks, eh
[05:21] <natex> Akuma_: well, if you want to install kubuntu 6.10, you may need to use the upgrade path
[05:21] <Akuma_> natex: well, i can't really do that either, since i dont have a 6.06 working, nor can i install one :)
[05:22] <natex> Akuma_: you can install it no?
[05:23] <Akuma_> natex: no. i used to be able to, but since yesterday i've been having this problem, so i can't boot/install it anymore
[05:23] <Akuma_> natex: and my current os is xp
[05:24] <peanutb> dr.wills, its called knaptic but its for package managment
[05:24] <natex> Akuma_: I wonder what has changed since it worked?
[05:25] <Akuma_> natex: no idea. i've been playing with vmware ubuntu installs a lot, is what comes to mind. but i can't see how this could affect things
[05:25] <dragonfly7> What program could I use to convert .wma to .mp3?
[05:28] <natex> brb
[05:28] <dennister> dragonfly7: i use pacpl from the command line, but it's a bit diceyto configure
[05:29] <dennister> others use ffmpg as a command line tool
[05:29] <dragonfly7> yeah. I think I will give up on that. I will just burn to cd and rip.
[05:29] <dennister> that's sometimes easiest
[05:29] <Lam_> dragonfly7: if you're going to do that, do it with a cd-rw
[05:30] <atoumey> does anyone know about getting support for an nvidia graphics card working in ubuntu?  Specifically, a GeForce 7900 GTO
[05:30] <Lam_> !nvidia
[05:30] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:30] <dragonfly7> Lam_: I will, don't worry. I'm not that stupid.
[05:32] <osiris> how would i go about resizing my / partition to use the rest of my free space on a drive.  that drive also has the swap partition on it.
[05:33] <osiris> i moved /home to a seperate drive, and i want to make root fill the freed up space
[05:35] <dennister> has anyone used falcon's repo for lirc?
[05:36] <dennister> osiris: use a livecd to make sure nothing is mounted first
[05:37] <osiris> what about init1
[05:37] <dennister> i'm not too familiar with the different initlevels i'm afraid..i've jsut done it with livecd's
[05:38] <dennister> they have tools for this sort of thing...there's a howto as well
[05:38] <dennister> hold on
[05:41] <dennister> !home
[05:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about home - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:42] <dennister> osiris: i don't have mozilla yet, so i'm having more trouble finding the howto than u might
[05:42] <osiris> i have time
[05:42] <dennister> try searching for 'move home to it's own partition'
[05:42] <dennister> keywords like that
[05:42] <osiris> i already moved the /home on the fly.  just required a reboot
[05:42] <osiris> that parts done
[05:43] <unix_infidel> osiris: it not the "proper" way but it should work temporarily.
[05:43] <unix_infidel> osiris: you should however use dd or tar to maintain perms of your stuff enxt time.
[05:43] <osiris> i followed a hot to
[05:43] <osiris> it was a find string
[05:43] <dennister> then u should be done
[05:43] <osiris> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/
[05:44] <osiris> i am
[05:44] <Hawkwind> He wants to expand his / directory is what he asked for
[05:44] <osiris> i just need to resize the / partition to make use ofthe new freespace
[05:44] <dennister> oh shoot...sorry
[05:44] <Hawkwind> He already moved /home to the new partition and wants / to take over the old /home space
[05:44] <dennister> that's right...use a livecd and grown the partition with one of the tools
[05:44] <osiris> swap MAY be in the way
[05:44] <Hawkwind> unix_infidel: No need to use dd or tar to maintain perms when cp -a or mv will maintain perms
[05:45] <unix_infidel> Hawkwind: also true.
[05:45] <dennister> Hawkwind's a real expert osiris
[05:45] <osiris> that how-to worked quite well
[05:45] <dennister> i always feel best when Hawkwind's here helping
[05:45] <osiris> dennister, then i am in good hands
[05:45] <Hawkwind> dennister: osiris and I know each pretty well, we are in many channels together ;)
[05:45] <osiris> many many
[05:46] <dennister> oh, ok then...
[05:46] <dennister> u don't need me to sing ur praises then :)
[05:47] <dennister> Hawkwind: have u ever used any of falcon's repos?
[05:47] <dennister> coreymon77: r u having trouble with timeouts?
[05:47] <Hawkwind> dennister: Falcon's repos ?
[05:48] <dennister> yeah...his stuff is apparently coming to the more conventional repos, but that's still in the works
[05:48] <Hawkwind> dennister: Who is Falcon ?
[05:49] <dennister> he's written this howto about  lirc, and apparently the one i need to use has to be gotten from his
[05:49] <Hawkwind> dennister: Got a link ?
[05:50] <dennister> Dennis Kaarsemaker http://home.eng.iastate.edu/~superm1/dists/edgy/all/ http://home.eng.iastate.edu/~superm1/dists/edgy/all/ that's a mirror
[05:50] <Hawkwind> dennister: That's Seveas
[05:51] <Hawkwind> dennister: Seveas is the one who runs and codes the bots here for all *Ubuntu channels
[05:51] <Hawkwind> dennister: A very trusted person and packager
[05:51] <dennister> yeah...sorry, Mario's lirc page is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lirc_Edgy#head-a1dba57858ffd46f283504b106d6d355794890bc
[05:51] <dennister> i thought that repo page looked familiar
[05:52] <dennister> i'm just not sure how to use the lirc stuff he says i have to with my tuner remote
[05:52] <dennister> heck, i don't even know the difference between lirc and lirc-x
[05:56] <dennister> i was just looking for a lirc_12c for my hauppaauge, but mari's got irc_0.8.0-9ubuntu0unofficial1_i386.deb, and a coupla others in that vein
[05:59] <atoumey> !nvidia
[05:59] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:00] <morfic> how do you patch in the kubuntu splash stuff, and what tool creates the initrd holding the splash screen?
[06:01] <seishinbyou> Hmm, is there anything to do if xev cannot detect certain keys?
[06:05] <atoumey> !nvidia
[06:05] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:05] <atoumey> sorry
[06:16] <max_> can someone help me with installing a bootsplash screen?
[06:16] <h3sp4wn> usplash or bootsplash ?
[06:17] <max_> what is the difference?
[06:17] <max_> but it is a bootsplash
[06:19] <seishinbyou> The "Kubuntu" screen at bootup or the "splash" when booting up the KDE environment?
[06:19] <h3sp4wn> max_: bootsplash uses kernel patches I think
[06:19] <max_> well its a bootsplash screen
[06:20] <max_> when i do <splash -s -f bootsplash-1024x768.cfg > /boot/initrd> i get this error <-bash: splash: command not found>
[06:23] <smacnay> I am trying to burn and boot an edgy cd with k3b.  Is there some trick?
[06:23] <smacnay> Seems my first attempt wouldn't boot.
[06:24] <max_> smacnay: any reason your burning it to a cd?
[06:28] <smacnay> I wanted to ruun a live cd.  Does kubuntu run live?
[06:28] <unix_lappy> smacnay: yes.
[06:29] <unix_lappy> but you need to get the specific live cd.
[06:29] <smacnay> hmm, then I have done something wrong in burning the iso.
[06:29] <h3sp4wn> smacnay: Its not a particularly good live cd to use though
[06:29] <smacnay> ahhh.
[06:29] <smacnay> ok
[06:29] <h3sp4wn> smacnay: If you actually want to use it for anything
[06:30] <smacnay> Is there a good live lin distro out there?  I want to be able to access a forwarded X session.
[06:31] <h3sp4wn> knoppix / kanotix (are debian based) and designed to be used as a live cd - damn small linux is very fast
[06:32] <smacnay> thanks
[06:34] <dennister> h3sp4wn: little problem...i need to run a command and konsole is saying i can't
[06:34] <h3sp4wn> dennister: what command
[06:35] <dennister> the command is: ./setup.sh /usr/local/webmin
[06:35] <dennister> error message: ./setup.sh: No such file or directory
[06:35] <h3sp4wn> don't use webmin it was removed from debian for a reason
[06:36] <dennister> really? i never had any problems with it
[06:36] <dennister> i had more problems with phpmyadmin and mysqladmin
[06:36] <Hobbsee> !vmware
[06:36] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[06:37] <h3sp4wn> the reason being its completely insecure and the one guy who was maintaining it stoped
[06:37] <dennister> k...good reason
[06:37] <dennister> do u have any other suggestions for a good front-end for my servers then?
[06:38] <seishinbyou> vmware is great
[06:38] <h3sp4wn> dennister: Are you giving other people access to webmin ?
[06:38] <dennister> nope
[06:39] <h3sp4wn> I don't see the need then
[06:39] <dennister> but i want to make sure the servers r configured properly b4 i go to next step of installing all the mythtv 2 stuff
[06:40] <dennister> the edgy howto doesn't cover that before mythtv is installed
[06:40] <h3sp4wn> You don't make sense why do you need mythtv on a server
[06:40] <snoopjohn> hm
[06:40] <dennister> the other way around: mythtv needs the lamp server
[06:41] <dennister> all the howtos for myth stress the elements of a lamp server for the backend
[06:41] <h3sp4wn> so just configure the lamp server manually using webmin to do it will cause all sorts of problems
[06:41] <unix_lappy> anyone know of a plugin that lets you sync all your bookmarks from one computer to another
[06:42] <unix_lappy> eg allowing you to store your xml file on a temporary pastebin and allowing you to download and import that file in firefox?
[06:42] <h3sp4wn> unix_lappy: For firefox you just export bookmarks.html
[06:42] <unix_lappy> h3sp4wn: right, but i mean automatic sync
[06:42] <dennister> or i can just blindly keep following the howto at this point...
[06:42] <dennister> thks
[06:42] <unix_lappy> like, one button you point it to a URL and it automatically download and imports
[06:43] <Arafangion> unix_lappy: There is a firefox plugin that does something, using a central internet server.
[06:43] <Arafangion> unix_lappy: I don't like it, but it could be just what you want.
[06:43] <unix_lappy> Arafangion: you have a name or a URL?
[06:43] <Arafangion> unix_lappy: Just that it's a firefox plugin :(
[06:43] <unix_lappy> Arafangion: :)
[06:43] <h3sp4wn> dennister: Seriously you are more likely to cause more problems by using webmin than blindly following
[06:44] <Arafangion> https://addons.mozilla.org/search.php?cat=22&app=firefox&appfilter=firefox&type=E
[06:44] <Arafangion> GMarks looks promising.
[06:45] <Arafangion> Also the one named del.icio.us Bookmarks (hit next a number of times to see it, result number 31, I think)
[06:50] <dennister> h3sp4wn: it's ok...i took ur advice and gave up on the webmin
[06:51] <dennister> the howto i'm meant that i'm following is the ubuntu edgy one for mythtv
[06:51] <dennister> i can usually spot someone who knows more than I :)
[06:52] <unix_lappy> Arafangion: you've used gmarks
[06:52] <unix_lappy> ?
[06:52] <Arafangion> unix_lappy: Nope, I don't even use firefox.
[06:52] <unix_lappy> Arafangion: konq?
[06:52] <Arafangion> Opera9
[06:53] <unix_lappy> Arafangion: heh, i was looking for something more like a file to file import export sort of thing
[06:53] <unix_lappy> gmarks is a lot like del.icio.us
[06:53] <Arafangion> Opera!
[06:54] <unix_lappy> :P
[06:54] <unix_lappy> thanks anyway
[06:54] <unix_lappy> is anyone here getting weird marks on their urxvt window when they man [command]  or use an ncurses program?
[06:55] <Arafangion> unix_lappy: What TERM do you have?
[06:55] <unix_lappy> rxvt-unicode
[06:55] <unix_lappy> $ echo $TERM
[06:55] <unix_lappy> rxvt-unicode
[06:55] <unix_lappy> if that's what you mean
[06:56] <Arafangion> What locale are you using?
[06:58] <unix_lappy> Arafangion: for some reason en.CA
[06:58] <unix_lappy> erm, en_CA, canadian english?
[06:59] <Arafangion> That's why :)
[06:59] <Arafangion> See if their's a unicode version you could use instea.d
[07:02] <thenatos> Hi everyone, i'm new to linux, just thought i'd say hi in the chan... i really like this disro...
[07:03] <unix_lap1y> sorry, temporary power outage.
[07:05] <Arafangion> thenatos: You'll learn to hate it, but hopefully not to the extent of any other distro or operating system ;)
[07:06] <seishinbyou> All OSs are flawed anyways; you just stick with the one that sucks the least
[07:06] <Arafangion> unix_lappy: 16:59 < Arafangion> See if their's a unicode version you could use instea.d
[07:06] <seishinbyou> for oyu
[07:06] <seishinbyou> *you
[07:06] <Arafangion> seishinbyou: you?
[07:07] <seishinbyou> I'm currently using Kubuntu Edgy; I have a WinXP partition for Visual Studio development (work)
[07:07] <Arafangion> unix_lappy: My guess is that the man pages are using some char that's in the EN_US or some other locale, but yours doesn't.
[07:08] <Arafangion> unix_lappy: My locale is: en_AU.UTF-8
[07:08] <unix_lap1y> Arafangion: thanks, i'll look into how i can change the locale
[07:08] <unix_lap1y> brb.
[07:08] <Arafangion> unix_lap1y: Be aware that the terminal has to load with those locales, so for testing, try changing the locales, then starting a new urxvt from inside that.
[07:10] <thenatos> lol, yeh, i'm no longer a big windows fan :P
[07:13] <thenatos> anyone know where i can find a good tetris game?
[07:14] <msl> thenatos: sudo apt-get install ksirtet
[07:16] <dennister> lol...been a little while...how do i get out of the mysql prompt again?
[07:16] <Arafangion> msl: "ksirtet", of _course_ that's tetris :)
[07:17] <Arafangion> thenatos: apt-cache search tetris
[07:17] <thenatos> apt-cache?
[07:17] <thenatos> sorry, i just installed kubuntu, that is all the linux experience i have.. other than some toying with gentoo on my xbox...
[07:18] <msl> k + tetris backwords, for some reason.  trademark?
[07:18] <Arafangion> msl: Point.
[07:18] <dennister> never mind...quick find...i almost had it
[07:18] <seishinbyou> thenatos: K/X/Ubuntu uses the apt system.
[07:19] <Arafangion> thenatos: You can use gui frontends, such as Synaptic, and I'm sure KUbuntu has it's own frontend, but I'm an old timer.
[07:19] <Arafangion> thenatos: I use aptitude, various apt programs, and dpkg :)
[07:19] <thenatos> ah, ok, and how would i get aptitude?
[07:19] <seishinbyou> I see Adept comes with Kubuntu
[07:20] <thenatos> i suppose google helps :)
[07:20] <seishinbyou> aptitude is already there, aren't you lucky :)
[07:21] <seishinbyou> If you are on Kubuntu, if you open up "Adept Manager" under the "System" menu
[07:21] <msl> Are there any good reasons to use edgy over dapper other than KDE-3.5.5
[07:21] <seishinbyou> you can use the search box for "tetris" and click the app name and "Request install" to install
[07:21] <seishinbyou> edgy made it possible for me to get aiglx working
[07:22] <seishinbyou> finally
[07:22] <msl> seishinbyou: did you get it working in KDE?
[07:23] <thenatos> ah, ok
[07:23] <thenatos> thanks for the help there :)
[07:23] <seishinbyou> msi> yes
[07:24] <thenatos> http://www.neave.com/games/nblox/ <--- i saw this earlier today, so i just had an urge to play
[07:27] <lish> I use gnump3d to build a stream server . but the "custom playlist" would  generate a "playlist" file without a .m3u suffix which i want
[07:28] <lish> Do anybody hack this ?
[07:28] <Arafangion> lish: What's your native language?
[07:29] <lish> Arafangion:  chinese.
[07:29] <Arafangion> lish: Cool.  Does it ask you for the filename to save as?
[07:30] <lish> Arafangion:  Yes .
[07:30] <Arafangion> lish: Does it work if you manually specify .m3u?
[07:30] <lish> Arafangion: I tested it  in IE and konqueror
[07:30] <lish> Arafangion: yes.
[07:30] <Arafangion> lish: File extensions are infact meaningless to linux, though some programs do use it.
[07:31] <draik> What do I need to get OpenGL to work properly? My screensaver is lagging
[07:31] <Arafangion> lish: It's more for the user to specify the extension that they want.
[07:31] <lish> Arafangion: The windows client would need a .m3u suffix to play it.
[07:31] <Arafangion> lish: Then just make sure it always has a .m3u suffix.
[07:32] <Arafangion> lish: It's unfortunate that in windows, file extensions _do_ mean something. :(
[07:33] <unix_infidel> Arafangion: i did dpkg-reconfigure localeconf and changed it to en_US [some iso number]  and i still am getting weird marks in my urxvt
[07:34] <lish> Arafangion: It seems that the suffix is a little useful in Linux now. My amarok wont import the "playlist" file.
[07:34] <Arafangion> unix_infidel: Did you choose the UTF8 version?
[07:34] <unix_infidel> Arafangion: nope, something with an iso number after it.
[07:34] <Arafangion> lish: As I said, some programs take it on themselves to only use some extensions.
[07:34] <unix_infidel> Arafangion: do i have to log out and back in, in order for it to take effect?
[07:34] <Arafangion> unix_infidel: Use the UTF8 version.
[07:35] <Arafangion> unix_infidel: In practice, yes. :(
[07:35] <msl> draik: do you have hardware accelerated drivers
[07:37] <ishah> hello
[07:37] <ishah> is any one alive hare?????????????????????????????
[07:37] <Lam_> anyone else notice that when you "Create New..." say.. text document in kubuntu, it creates a new empty KOffice text document, despite the fact that KOffice isn't installed by default?
[07:37] <lish> Arafangion: I want the server give a playlist with the suffix.  That depends on Playlist.pm mod, so i think we can hack the mod ?
[07:37] <Arafangion> lish: You could, sure, if you know Perl.
[07:38] <Arafangion> lish: If you're using apache, you might even be able to hack mod_rewrite
[07:38] <Arafangion> lish: However, both of these are beyond the scope of #kubuntu :(
[07:38] <lish> Arafangion: I come here for my os is kubuntu while no #gnump3d channel . sorry :)
[07:40] <Arafangion> lish: You could also try finding their mailing list.
[07:41] <Arafangion> lish: When the subject becomes highly specific, email tends to be better.
[07:42] <lish> Arafangion:  I did that . NO proper reply ,but the similar Question
[07:42] <Arafangion> lish: Unfortunate :(
[07:43] <Arafangion> Lam_: It probably just copies a sample template.
[07:43] <lish> Arafangion: PS ,Is it errors in my words that you ask my native language ?  Could you point those for me ?
[07:44] <seishinbyou> "Do anybody hack this ?" was a giveaway for me
[07:44] <Arafangion> lish: Just a subtle problem with your grammar, I can't quite work it out.
[07:44] <Arafangion> seishinbyou: And that one was not quite so subtle ;)
[07:45] <Arafangion> lish: Plus, your use of the term "hack" was too "correct"
[07:45] <unix_infidel> Arafangion: still no go, changed it to en_US.UTF-8
[07:45] <unix_infidel> also did a .bashrc export to LANGUAGE=en_US:en
[07:45] <unix_infidel> hence why all the quit messages :P
[07:45] <Arafangion> unix_infidel: I'm out of suggestions :(
[07:45] <Arafangion> unix_infidel: Heh :)
[07:46] <Arafangion> lish: I think you might be confusing the word forms.
[07:46] <unix_infidel> Arafangion: thanks a lot for your help though.
[07:46] <unix_infidel> midnight snack time :)
[07:46] <lish> thanks you all
[07:47] <Arafangion> lish: For example, "Is it errors in my words that you ask my native lnaguage?" should probably be better written as: "Are there errors in my words? Why did you ask my native language?"
[07:47] <seishinbyou> Arafangion: moreso transitive vs. intransitive
[07:47] <Arafangion> seishinbyou: Now, *that's* over my head!
[07:47] <lish> Arafangion:  lol . you are cute
[07:48] <Arafangion> seishinbyou: After reading the dictionary definition, I _still_ don't know what transitive means!
[07:49] <Arafangion> seishinbyou: Does it correspond to being "very concrete"?
[07:49] <draik> msl: How do I check for hardware accelerators? I am on a fresh install of Edgy
[07:49] <Arafangion> seishinbyou: Heh, the Japanese have a hard time with our language :)
[07:49] <seishinbyou> Moreso direct vs indirect action
[07:49] <Arafangion> seishinbyou: I've had two japanese people ask what does "stuff" mean?
[07:49] <seishinbyou> What is you doing?  I have being smoking for 8 years.
[07:50] <seishinbyou> It's all stuff forcefed by the education system and NOVA
[07:50] <Arafangion> seishinbyou: They actually enforce the mauled version?
[07:50] <msl> draik: Open a konsole and type     glxinfo | grep -i rendering
[07:51] <seishinbyou> No, the problem is that they aren't taught English in a conversational sense; only to pass the University entrance exams
[07:51] <seishinbyou> lots of remember, copy&paste
[07:51] <seishinbyou> You get great mixups like "It's sunny o'clock"
[07:51] <draik> msl: what am I looking for?
[07:52] <seishinbyou> "Direct Rendering : Yes"
[07:52] <msl> if it says yes you have hardware acceleration, otherwise you currently have none
[07:52] <draik> I get errors
[07:52] <draik> sorry...
[07:52] <draik> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[07:52] <draik> Xlib: No protocol specified
[07:52] <draik> Error: unable to open display (null)
[07:52] <draik> That's what I get
[07:52] <seishinbyou> msi: I'm being optimistic
[07:53] <Arafangion> seishinbyou: I have heard of native english speakers having to have their english "corrected" in the Japanese education system.
[07:53] <draik> so how do I get hw acceleration?
[07:53] <msl> draik: do it as your user instead of root
[07:53] <seishinbyou> Arafangion: Yep, I have had it happen to me a few times.  "When did you start reading a novel?"
[07:54] <seishinbyou> Instead of "When did you start reading novels?"
[07:54] <msl> root does not have X11 running and thus cannot get the information
[07:54] <draik> Ok, says this...
[07:54] <draik> direct rendering: No
[07:54] <draik> How do I get it?
[07:54] <msl> you need to get vdeo card drivers
[07:54] <msl> video*
[07:54] <Arafangion> seishinbyou: What I find is most funny is when they correct the pronounciation.
[07:54] <draik> so I change my nv driver for nvidia?
[07:54] <Arafangion> seishinbyou: Come on! Native English Speaker here!
[07:55] <Arafangion> seishinbyou: "Tomato", which actually has a number of different ways of saying it, is a common culprit.
[07:55] <msl> draik: I think most have had good experiences with the binary drivers from nvidia
[07:55] <Arafangion> seishinbyou: What's the rationale for putting the 'a' into that question?
[07:56] <seishinbyou> Arafangion: "A Japanese likes fish" vs. "Japanese like fish" <- Both the same meaning  (is their logic)
[07:56] <draik> msl: so leave it as nv?
[07:56] <Arafangion> seishinbyou: But it doesn't.
[07:56] <jarn> Edgy is no longer a beta, correct? It is now the "stable" version?
[07:56] <draik> msl: or do I pick the generic nVidia GeForce FX?
[07:56] <Arafangion> seishinbyou: "a" has specific meaning.
[07:57] <msl> draik: I would follow the steps to get the binary drivers from nvidia at http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[07:57] <jarn> When I change my sources to edgy ones and do apt-get update, a few do not work. I got a 404 on one.
[07:58] <jarn> 2, in fact.
[07:58] <msl> I have never used nv myself
[07:58] <seishinbyou> Arafangion: "a" (according to their texts) means "one of a sample".  One of a sample in my example is the equivalent of a generalization of something using a sample of it
[07:59] <Arafangion> seishinbyou: So how would the japanese feel if I wrote: "A japanese hates fish"
[07:59] <seishinbyou> Arafangion: They would think it correct
[07:59] <Arafangion> seishinbyou: (Though, strictly, that should be "A japanese person hates fish")
[07:59] <unix_infidel> what's the smallest size i could get away with for an ubuntu test server?
[07:59] <Arafangion> seishinbyou: How can the japanese both love and hate fish?
[07:59] <unix_infidel> vmware that is.
[08:00] <unix_infidel> mercury and sushi goodness at the same time.
[08:00] <unix_infidel> sounds like a love hate relationship
[08:00] <seishinbyou> unix_infidel: A fresh install with everything can fit under 2 gigs
[08:00] <unix_infidel> seishinbyou: so 3 gigs is a fair estimate?
[08:00] <seishinbyou> Arafangion: I was thinking exclusionary in terms of your example
[08:00] <seishinbyou> unix_infidel: Yeah, that should be fine
[08:01] <draik> How do I restart X?
[08:01] <lish> seishinbyou means "a horse have four legs " equals " Horse has four legs "
[08:01] <seishinbyou> list: not exactly
[08:01] <Arafangion> lish: What about dogs?
[08:01] <seishinbyou> In the case of a nationality, someone is "Japanese" "Canadian" "American", etc.
[08:01] <lish> seishinbyou:  ... :)
[08:01] <unix_infidel> seishinbyou: trying to decide b/w ubuntu and centos as a test setup
[08:01] <dennister> has anyone here got ubuntu server, edgy i386?
[08:01] <Arafangion> lish: "a dog has 3 legs".
[08:02] <msl> draik: /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[08:02] <Arafangion> lish: And that's correct :)
[08:02] <lish> Arafangion: your dog is special
[08:02] <seishinbyou> The problem with "a" is now that people here think "I am Japanese citizen" is correct
[08:02] <Arafangion> lish: Perhaps.
[08:02] <msl> or ctrl-alt-backspace
[08:03] <Arafangion> lish: But if I say "dog have 3 legs", I'm NOT correct, because that's quite different. (Poor grammar too)
[08:04] <Arafangion> lish: As "dog" and "horse" have a plural form - Japanese just happens to be able to be used in both singular and plural forms.
[08:04] <lish> Arafangion: i get it
[08:05] <Arafangion> lish: Anyway, if you see "a horse has 4 legs", think of it "There exists some horse that has 4 legs".
[08:05] <Arafangion> lish: But if you say "hoses have 4 legs", you are instead saying "As a general rule, all horses have 4 legs".
[08:06] <seishinbyou> All horses have 4 legs, but not all 4-legged creatures are horses
[08:06] <Arafangion> seishinbyou: I would've thought that was completely irrelevant to this discussion! :)
[08:06] <Arafangion> seishinbyou: Do they mix that up as well?
[08:08] <seishinbyou> Arafangion: No, but I like to throw random logic in their faces once in a while
[08:08] <Arafangion> seishinbyou: Why?
[08:08] <seishinbyou> It helps keep me sane
[08:08] <seishinbyou> Which is to say, I am pretty much insane right now
[08:09] <Arafangion> lish: By the way, do you know what the word "stuff" means?
[08:09] <Arafangion> lish: Because it seems that many Japanese don't.
[08:09] <draik> msl: Ok, I restarted X, but don't see any of my OpenGL screensavers
[08:09] <lish> Arafangion:  stuff ,means "things"
[08:10] <lish> Arafangion:  :)
[08:10] <msl> Does   glxinfo | grep -i rendering  now say that you have direct rendering?
[08:10] <Arafangion> lish: Ok, you know more than the japanese I've met about English, in my book :)
[08:11] <Arafangion> seishinbyou: Come to think of it, wouldn't saying things suck as "in my book" confuse them?
[08:12] <seishinbyou> Arafangion: No, but if you asked them to make that sentence, there is a good chance they would have said "on my book"
[08:13] <lish> Arafangion: "in my book"  means " in my opinion" ? ...
[08:13] <Arafangion> lish: That's remarkably close. :)
[08:13] <Arafangion> lish: To be honest, I was wondering how I would explain what it meant :)
[08:14] <Arafangion> seishinbyou: I would imagine that they have less problems with the word "the"?
[08:17] <seishinbyou> Arafangion: debatable...they are more likely to exclude it than misuse it
[08:18] <Arafangion> seishinbyou: That'd make it worse.
[08:37] <willy> sabra alguien que tengo que poner para actualizar mi jvm 1.4 a 1.5 de kubuntu
[08:38] <draik> willy !sp
[08:38] <draik> errr.
[08:38] <draik> !sp | willy
[08:38] <ubotu> sp: James Clark's SGML parsing tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.4-1.2.1-47 (edgy), package size 158 kB, installed size 564 kB
[08:38] <draik> !es
[08:38] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[08:38] <draik> !es | willy
[08:38] <ubotu> willy: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[08:40] <willy> pero eso que lo pongo en consola o como le hago
[08:40] <willy> soy nuevo en kubuntu
[08:40] <willy> necesito hacer un monton de cosas que hago en windows pero esa basura se me arruino
[08:40] <willy> entonces mi solucion a todo kubuntu
[08:40] <willy> ejeje
[08:41] <willy> alguien sabe como hacer para compilar Jlex y Cup
[08:43] <willy> alguien sabe algo de como actualizar mi jvm de kubuntu
[08:44] <willy> ayuda porfa
[08:50] <morphius> Using 6.06: I have a script that I am running using cron. When it runs as cron, it will not work properly. If run from command prompt, however, it works fine. The script: Checks to see if the computer can ping google. Next, it checks to see if the IP address has changed. If it has it updates my wireless router using a perl web scraping script and changes the dmz. Any ideas?
[08:53] <msl> morphius: I'm not sure where to start, but I do remember that cron does not source your environment and can cause the condition you are describing
[08:58] <dumbkiwi> morphius: cron runs as root, so if the command you are using in your script, or the script itself is not in root's path, then it won't run properly.  Try using the complete path to the script, and the commands in the script.
[08:59] <morphius> they are all using the complete path.
[09:13] <aldwin> #edubuntu
[09:25] <dennister> i can't believe this mythtv is almost fiished :)
[09:25] <dennister> anyone awake to hear my good news?
[09:26] <nino> sup
[09:26] <dennister> nino :)
[09:27] <nino> hey
[09:27] <dennister> one of my favourite names, after one of my fav authors
[09:27] <nino> nino?
[09:27] <dennister> yep...as in nino ricci
[09:27] <nino> cool
[09:27] <dennister> ever heard of him?
[09:28] <dennister> u probably don't read modern literature...'tis ok
[09:28] <nino> nope i have not
[09:28] <dennister> I need someone to crow to!
[09:29] <nino> go for it
[09:29] <dennister> i have this mythtv almost setup! yahoo!!!
[09:29] <dennister> i've only been struggling for about 3 months, too...lol
[09:29] <nino> i've played around with it, do you need a decoder??
[09:30] <nino> for it to work?
[09:30] <dennister> not that i know of...although it needs so many packages there are decoders within them
[09:30] <dennister> and i have a hardware decoder as part of my tuner
[09:30] <nino> no i mean satilite decoder?
[09:30] <dennister> no, u don't need satellite at all
[09:30] <nino> online?
[09:30] <dennister> i live in a basement apartment that i rent...cable setop box
[09:31] <nino> so it should work on a normal tv card asswell?
[09:31] <dennister> yes...most 'normal tv cards' have hardware decoders
[09:31] <dennister> just do ur research on em for linux
[09:32] <nino> cool, i should try it again, i gave up on it a month ago
[09:32] <dennister> absolutely NOTHING worked for me except this ubuntu server (for the lamp) on edgy i386 arch
[09:33] <thyko> does kubuntu have a text only runlevel?
[09:33] <dennister> i was warned off the edgy cause it's still so new, but it installed the ivtv drivers i needed to get my tuner working from the repos
[09:33] <nino> i had the 64 bit kubuntu installed at home, tried to run it on that
[09:33] <nino> cool
[09:33] <dennister> yes it does thyko
[09:34] <dennister> don't bother with 64 bit
[09:34] <dennister> it doesn't work...that's what i was struggling with for most of these 3 months
[09:34] <dennister> and i have hardware capable of running vista
[09:34] <thyko> dennister: which one?
[09:34] <thyko> its not 2 for sure
[09:34] <nino> yea i scrapped it to have a look at windows vista on that partition, and guess what? Windows still suck
[09:35] <slothbag1> anyone know how to get setterm -powersave working in edgy?
[09:35] <dennister> yes it does nino...i think it'll be worse than xp with all its paranoia about piracy
[09:35] <dennister> thyko...i'm not sure
[09:35] <dennister> slothbag1: no, sorry
[09:35] <nino> its gonna be complicated for normal home users!!
[09:36] <thyko> im using it on a server and dont need X mostly
[09:36] <dennister> i actually have a small problem: i've got my backend all configured, as well as my frontend. but they can't hookup
[09:37] <dennister> the error message is: Session management error: Could not open network socket
[09:37] <nino> damn i havent a clue
[09:38] <dennister> ok...i'll google it, since most of the really knowledgeable ops don't seem to be present at the moment
[09:38] <nino> lol yea srry
[09:39] <dennister> 'tis ok...myth is supposedly not for newbies, and lots of the most knowledgeable ops don't know myth either
[09:39] <nino> just keep on grinding at it!!!!
[09:40] <aftertaf> anyone having fun with compiz and nvidia? I get it working everytime, then when i reboot, back to console :)
[09:43] <SuperLag> Any of you guys use Kile on your Kubuntu installs?
[09:43] <aftertaf> kile?
[09:43] <aftertaf> wazzat?
[09:44] <thyko> its runlevel 3
[09:44] <SuperLag> Front end for LaTeX
[09:45] <momal> !nvidiabeta
[09:45] <ubotu> For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) Beta version of the binary NVidia drivers by using one of these repositories: "deb http://amaranth.selfip.com/ edgy lrm" (for x86) or "deb http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/ edgy lrm-amd64" (for AMD64)
[09:46] <aftertaf> but that link doesnt work with the latest generic kernel
[09:46] <aftertaf> i had to install nvidia installer....
[09:48] <sudharsh> !kde
[09:48] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[09:48] <sudharsh> !amarok1.4.4
[09:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amarok1.4.4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:48] <sudharsh> !kde-latest
[09:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kde-latest - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:49] <aftertaf> 1.4.4 ?   tries amarok-latest repos?
[09:51] <sudharsh> aftertaf: yeah...strangely not getting them
[09:52] <sudharsh> btw is it ok to add the dapper kde latest packages in edgy..
[09:53] <aftertaf> sudharsh: i should think so, but that is not a techically fuelled answer ... ;)
[09:54] <sudharsh> aftertaf: hmm...ok...its just strange that i am not getting updates even after countless apt-get update for the last two weeks
[09:55] <aftertaf> http://www.kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-144/
[09:55] <aftertaf> atest has 1.4.3
[09:55] <aftertaf> latest
[09:55] <sudharsh> aftertaf: oh..
[09:56] <visik7> anyone running vmware-workstation on edgy ?
[10:01] <seishinbyou> visik7: I am
[10:03] <mgamon> hello
[10:03] <aftertaf> :)
[10:03] <mgamon> tell me what day it is
[10:03] <mgamon> please
[10:03] <aftertaf> monday
[10:04] <mgamon> what am i connected to
[10:04] <aftertaf> 6 nov 2006
[10:04] <aftertaf> kubuntu forum on irc freenode
[10:04] <aftertaf> lol
[10:04] <mgamon> ahh
[10:04] <mgamon> are you an expierenced kubuntu user
[10:05] <mgamon> im very new to it and maybe you can help me aftertaf
[10:05] <aftertaf> sort of
[10:05] <aftertaf> ask away :)
[10:05] <mgamon> well this might be a toughy not sure
[10:06] <mgamon> how do i change my keyboard style, i.e. french vs US english
[10:06] <mgamon> it was chosen when i installed the program
[10:06] <mgamon> err when i installed the whole OS
[10:06] <aftertaf> you want it all in french, c'est ca?
[10:06] <mgamon> hah not so much
[10:06] <cpk1> mgamon: in system settings go to regional and accessability
[10:06] <mgamon> i chose canadian and its sorta messed up some keys
[10:07] <aftertaf> just the kb?
[10:07] <mgamon> i didnt know there was canadian keyboards different than this us keyboard im using
[10:07] <aftertaf> cpk1 has it right
[10:07] <mgamon> whats that
[10:07] <cpk1> accessibiility*
[10:07] <mgamon> ahhhhh
[10:07] <cpk1> mgamon: go to the kmenu, go to system settings, and then choose regional and accessibility
[10:08] <mgamon> okay great ! its fixed
[10:08] <aftertaf> great :)
[10:08] <scheuri> but that is KDE only then...if you switch to CLI it stays UK Keyboard, rght?
[10:08] <mgamon> one small step at a time
[10:09] <aftertaf> mgamon: you want it in us english your keyboard?
[10:09] <mgamon> okay so did Kubuntu come with a firefox browser?
[10:09] <Zaire> is there an open bsd channel?
[10:09] <mgamon> yea it has been switched to us english successfully thanks
[10:09] <cpk1> no, use apt-get to install it (or adept if you want)
[10:09] <aftertaf> mgamon: you can install it easily..... ^^
[10:09] <momal> garrrr.... vmware under edgy anyone used it fine ?
[10:09] <mgamon> okay so adept is a program i have?
[10:09] <aftertaf> mgamon: open Adept and type 'firefox' in the textbox.
[10:10] <aftertaf> !adept
[10:10] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[10:10] <mgamon> okay
[10:10] <Zaire> I may be swapping my server to open bsd so I was wondering if anyone knew of a channel for it