[00:00] <PatrickDickey> bbiab dinner time (and my workrave is getting mad, since I haven't taken a "Rest Break" yet)
[00:01] <Macuser> PatrickDickey: I've done it before. And the file extensions get messed up so it doesn't work
[00:03] <Jordan_U> makson: Karmic has been EOL for a while.
[00:03] <Jordan_U> !EOL | makson
[00:08] <AureliusR> oh man, I seem to be really stuck now PatrickDickey
[00:09] <AureliusR> no sound modules are being loaded at all. I reinstalled ALSA but when I type
[00:09] <AureliusR> 'alsa reload' it says 'no sound modules to load/unload'
[00:09] <PatrickDickey> Macuser: I'm not sure what to tell you then. Either you have to follow the tutorials, or use an older Mac. I can say that it's on Apple's end though, since they're the ones that change the API's.
[00:09] <AureliusR> How do I uninstall the realtek driver I just installed?
[00:10] <makson> ubottu: hmm could by ubunutu release be that old!
[00:10] <makson> ubottu: whats 2_9
[00:10] <makson> ubottu: whats 2+3
[00:11] <PatrickDickey> AureliusR: in the directory that had the ./install file, you might be able to run sudo make uninstall.
[00:12] <makson> i have 9.10 installed
[00:12] <AureliusR> no luck... man, I'm really in a jam now. the ubuntu documentation on sound debugging has like no info at all
[00:12] <AureliusR> makson: 9.10 is no longer supported
[00:13] <makson> AureliusR: ah great... is that why apt-get and such won't work correctly?
[00:14] <makson> is it a long process to upgrade ?
[00:14] <AureliusR> makson: exactly
[00:14] <AureliusR> not really
[00:14] <AureliusR> just download a newer ISO and use unetbootin or such to make a live USB
[00:14] <makson> AureliusR: will i have to reboot? i'm at like 970 days no reboot lol, i really want to make 1000 !
[00:14] <makson> i'm on a VPS.
[00:14] <AureliusR> yes, you'll have to reboo
[00:14] <AureliusR> t
[00:14] <AureliusR> lol.
[00:14] <nturner>
[00:14] <AureliusR> well go another month with no upgrades then, lol
[00:15] <makson> everything is working fine, i'll ust leave it, and wait until 1000 days,
[00:15] <makson> only reason i was upgrading i was playing with AUTHY (2 factor auth) and trying to get it working on my CHROOT Jail.
[00:15] <makson> other than that everything is working fine.
[00:15] <PatrickDickey> AureliusR: http://askubuntu.com/questions/151472/no-sound-after-updating-from-11-10-to-12-04 might help out also. I'll openly admit that I'm guessing on this one.
[00:15] <AureliusR> okay, I'll check that out
[00:15] <AureliusR> I have some more info now though
[00:15] <PatrickDickey> makson: what's in 1000 days?
[00:16] <AureliusR> aplay -l shows no sound cards detected, but lspci -v shows me that it's still there (of course)
[00:16] <AureliusR> I forgot that my video card auto-installs an HD audio driver so the realtek driver was probably uneccesarry
[00:17] <AureliusR> and that cat command doesn't work, it says no file or directory
[00:17] <PatrickDickey> AureliusR: what does alsamixer show?
[00:18] <jxshxx> New install of  12.04 won't shut down or restart from the panel.  Gets to the last screen and sticks after 4 of the 5 dots light up.  Anybody have a fix?
[00:18] <AureliusR> when I type alsamixer in it gives me an error, cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[00:19] <makson> PatrickDickey: my VPS hasn't been rebooted in like 970 days, i want to make the 1000 :)
[00:19] <PatrickDickey> AureliusR: I'm not sure what to tell you then.
[00:19] <AureliusR> hmm.. okay. thanks for everything though!
[00:21] <PatrickDickey> makson: when you decide to do it http://askubuntu.com/questions/144673/how-can-i-upgrade-to-ubuntu-12-04-from-clean-install-of-9-10 will give you some information.
[00:31] <jxshxx> This grub change was unsuccessful for me - GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi=force"
[00:33] <makson> PatrickDickey: thanks, think im going to spin up a micro instance at Amazon, im paying linode 20.00 a month for 512MB of ram, which is mickey mouse.
[00:33] <fraroco> Hello Everybody. This time I would like o ask some related to a text-file. The file has many data and I want to locate the duplicated lines. Is there any command to do it?
[00:33] <Jordan_U> jxshxx: Does alt+SYSRQ+{R,E,I,S,U,O} successfully shut the machine down when normal shutdown fails?
[00:34] <Jordan_U> fraroco: What is you end goal? Do you want to remove duplicate lines? Why?
[00:35] <jxshxx> Jordan_U: Would be happy to try, but lost after "alt" ... can you tell me what to do?
[00:35] <PatrickDickey> bbl.
[00:36] <fraroco> @Jordan_U Yes, this is the goal.
[00:36] <Jordan_U> fraroco: "sort file.txt" will make it easy to find duplicates, but the lines will be sorted (not in original order), so your end goal is important.
[00:37] <MDTech-us_MAN> Hello, I need help fixing the audio on ubuntu for my ASRock Z77 Extreme4 Motherboard
[00:37] <Jordan_U> fraroco: You still haven't specified your *end goal*. Why are you doing this?
[00:37] <MDTech-us_MAN> I know 99.9% sure that it is a driver problem.
[00:38] <MDTech-us_MAN> But, how do I install a windows driver on Ubuntu
[00:38] <MDTech-us_MAN> There are no Linux drivers
[00:38] <Jordan_U> MDTech-us_MAN: You don't. It's not possible (outside wireless card drivers, and even then it's not recommended).
[00:38] <Jordan_U> !pm | fraroco
[00:38] <MDTech-us_MAN> so what do I do
[00:39] <MDTech-us_MAN> ?
[00:39] <MDTech-us_MAN> so what do I do?
[00:39] <Jordan_U> MDTech-us_MAN: What symptoms are you having?
[00:39] <MDTech-us_MAN> audio nit working at all
[00:39] <MDTech-us_MAN> *not
[00:39] <fraroco> @Jordan_u I would like to eliminate the duplicate lines. The file a compilation of many protein sequences. then I have to align them with software to find consesus sequence. but I need a file with no duplicated sequences.
[00:40] <Jordan_U> MDTech-us_MAN: Please pastebin the output of "aplay --list-devices" and "lspci".
[00:40] <MDTech-us_MAN> one se
[00:40] <kalidor> MDT, which version of ubuntu are u using?
[00:40] <MDTech-us_MAN> 12.10
[00:41] <Jordan_U> fraroco: "sort file.txt | uniq > new_sorted_uniq_lines.txt" will generate a new file with only uniq lines, sorted. If it's OK for the lines not to be in their original order, then that should do it.
[00:42] <fraroco> Sorry, but what If I need the lines in the original order?
[00:42] <bedah> man.. i had to use ubuntu with unity and compiz today - that sucked-a-lot. sorry to troll :(
[00:42] <MDTech-us_MAN> http://pastebin.com/WFe3FSxm
[00:43] <happyface> how can I run service 'servicename' start in verbose mode? it just says fail
[00:43] <jetole> Hey guys. I think this looks like a bug but with ubuntu 12.04, x86_64 / AMD64 version, there is /usr/bin/less and /bin/less, both provided by less package according to apt-file and both with the saee md5sum. If this isn't a bug, why would there be a less at both locations?
[00:43] <BluesKaj> hmm. seeems to me the lines should be in a prper sequence as stated in the post above
[00:43] <bedah> jetole, is one of those a link to the other?
[00:44] <jetole> I actually just found that by accident at less as I was wondering if bash had a built in less, running the commnd: tyoe -a less
[00:44] <bedah> jetole, type "which less" to find out, which is the one you will use
[00:44] <jetole> bedah: yes. /usr/bin/less is but because they had the same checksum, I didn't even think to look
[00:45] <jetole> bedah: my mistake
[00:45] <MDTech-us_MAN> Jordan_U: Any ideas yet?
[00:45] <abhort42> Hellloooo everyone
[00:45] <abhort42> Well, i'm trying to install Linux on a computer that has windows xp on it..I have no cdrom and cant boot off usb...and i dont want to use a loopback filesystem...anyway i can install linux on here?
[00:46] <jetole> bedah: no I know and understand the path and priority but actually, why is less in /usr/bin/less a symlink to /usr/bin ?
[00:46] <Gromit> pxeboot
[00:46] <makson> thanks all for the help.
[00:47] <BluesKaj> !netinstall | abhort42
[00:47] <jetole> bedah: what I mean is what is the point of that symlink?
[00:47] <jetole> bedah: I assume /bin would always be in the path in a instance where /usr/bin is
[00:48]  * MDTech-us_MAN is waiting for any ideas on his problem!
[00:48] <Jordan_U> MDTech-us_MAN: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[00:48] <MDTech-us_MAN> 12.10
[00:49] <mxiia> Anyone in here know how to set up a smartmail server with comcast?
[00:49] <mxiia> or make php's mail() work with comcast bascially
[00:49] <Jordan_U> MDTech-us_MAN: Please be patient. Adding messages like that won't get you an answer sooner.
[00:49] <abhort42> Ive read all of that, those methods dont apply to me...HRM.
[00:50] <Jordan_U> MDTech-us_MAN: Try joining #alsa and describe your problem, including the links to aplay --list-devices and lspci output.
[00:50] <BluesKaj> abhort42, no cdrom , no usb , what else is there?
[00:50] <MDTech-us_MAN> ok
[00:50] <abhort42> I got usb, i just cant boot off of it, just a net connection, windows xp, and a hard drive
[00:51] <jetole> mxiia: not off the top of my head but it would be the same with any ISP so that's what I would look into. You need to know what type of smtp comcast uses, TLS, port number, STARTTLS or other method (forget other method name), what type of pop3 or IMAP server they use, etc
[00:51] <BluesKaj> then install off usb , abhort42
[00:51] <BluesKaj> !usb
[00:51] <BluesKaj> abhort42,^
[00:52] <Jordan_U> abhort42: What you want is possible but *far* from easy to do. I highly recommend finding another option, like putting the hard drive into another computer, buying a CDROM drive, or anything else.
[00:52] <abhort42> Yeah i was debating that...sigh...
[00:52] <Gromit> abhort42: simply use bootp/dhcp
[00:52] <jetole> mxiia: comcast doesn't allow you to have the default ports open for inbound smtp and most mail servers will block your mail server assuming for, this is a residential account
[00:52] <Gromit> abhort42: boot over network, the kernel, the installer
[00:52] <abhort42> all i got is wifi on here, for PXE i need ethernet card
[00:52] <jetole> mxiia: so I assume you realize that you would have to relay through your comcast email
[00:52] <Gromit> *sigh*
[00:53] <mxiia> well I mean comcast isp, I've done it before.. a long time ago. I had to route it through another smartmail server though
[00:53] <jetole> How can I change which packages are installed as part of ubuntu?
[00:54] <Kruppt> abhort42: do you have a floppy drive? If so, you could use plopboot manager to boot from usb drive http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanagers.html
[00:54] <abhort42> i have a floppy drive, just no diskettes ;)
[00:55] <mxiia> I have 5 floppie drives within 1 foot of me....
[00:55] <Jordan_U> abhort42: No other computer to stick the drive in?
[00:55] <jetole> Is there some way to make a custom install media (preferably over pxe) where I can say install these packages, don't install these ones, etc... actually I guess I just need to know how I can have a command auto run when complete as I'll be installing saltstack immediately after which can handle package management
[00:55] <abhort42> Jordan_U: not really, i got a laptop at my disposal
[00:56] <Kruppt> abhort42: if you can get a floppy disc, and install plopbootmanager on it you could boot up from a USB flash no problem
[00:57] <jetole> abhort42: wow at having a floppy drive. Is this like a legacy system you keep for toying around with? What are the specs on the system? <hz, ram size, disk size, etc
[00:58] <Jordan_U> abhort42: How was Windows installed on this machine in the first place? If in the process of installing Ubuntu something goes wrong, how do you plan to recover?
[00:59] <jetole> Jordan_U: in all fairness it could have come with windows installed or, I think even windows 98 had a floppy drive install option
[00:59] <onto> Hi! Ubuntu after upgrading to 12.04, I cannot connect to any wireless network without ubuntu freezing (briefly, but still quite annoying) or crashing (blank screen, no response on keypress); how would I fix this?
[01:00] <onto> $ uname -a
[01:00] <onto> Linux laptop 3.2.0-23-generic #36-Ubuntu SMP Tue Apr 10 20:39:51 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[01:00] <onto> It is especially annoying when the wireless automatically disconnects and the computer freezes when it tries to reconnect
[01:01] <abhort42> I dont care if somepthing goes wrong, it came with XP installed, the cddrive was replaced with another hard drive
[01:01] <Jordan_U> abhort42: Ahh, so you have two hard drives? If so, things just got simpler.
[01:03] <mary_> Need help with Geforce 7300 GS under 13.04. I can't get ubity to work with any of the proprietary driver options.
[01:03] <mary_> unity=ubity
[01:04] <BluesKaj> mary_, look in "additional drivers" , ctrl+F2
[01:06] <BluesKaj> you should be asking in #ubuntu+1 for 13.04 support , mary_
[01:07] <mary_> Tried all of them. Just get blank screen, no titlebar. no unity bar.  Fallback Gnome it ok and the drivers are obviously running as I can launch nvidia settings without error.
[01:07] <Akiva-Mobile> I have a problem: unity dash keeps mooning me. All I did is type gnome into the dash, and this picture keeps popping up: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41mS5Op6GfL.jpg
[01:08] <mary_> sorry switching now
[01:08] <mary_> join
[01:08] <NightHwk> I have a usb drive on Ubuntu 12.10 and take awhile to wake up after not being in use. Anyway to not let it go to sleep and stay activate?
[01:09] <gsned> hi guys… i've got internet connection sharing working perfectly… only thing is i need to type in "sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -j MASQUERADE" every time i reboot….. is there anyway i can make this command happen automatically?
[01:09] <BluesKaj> NightHwk, make your defualt boot drive in the boot sequence in nthe bios
[01:10] <BluesKaj> default
[01:10] <BluesKaj> the usb
[01:11] <NightHwk> BluesKaj thanks I give it a try.
[01:11] <NightHwk> I'll eveb
[01:11] <onto> I'm sorry, I got disconnected again -.-
[01:12] <onto> I have noticed through wicd-gtk that the system freezes when it's "Disconnecting from all networks"
[01:14] <jxshxx> Jordan_U: alt+SYSRQ+{R,E,I,S,U,O} - only a couple of those did anything, none shut it down
[01:15] <linusasus6> Hi I would like to know if is possible to make a portable Hard drive of Ubuntu with Wubi or it only gonna work with my computer
[01:17] <sayd> anyone using refind on osx? I have a mac mini with a blank hd I'd like to dual boot osx/linux trying to figure out if i should install osx on it first or not
[01:26] <butterbrei> hey guys… what is the easiest way to have a script temporary start after reboot
[01:26] <butterbrei> the script should only get executed once
[01:27] <ccvp> i just upgraded from ATI 5750 to EVGA 660 GTX 2GB SC(superclocked)
[01:27] <ccvp> ubuntu support the 660 GTX?
[01:35] <jxshxx> Jordan_U: Do you have anything else for me?
[01:35] <Alex123> Hello all, would like to know how to safely change my ubuntu to ubuntu studio ? Thank you
[01:36] <Chat4478> Hi
[01:39] <Alex123> Im using the latest lts version, i saw the commands to use as root but... is it not safer to do a clean install ?
[01:40] <Alex123> brb thank you
[01:49] <lunitik> AlexAverill: It would not be safer, no, but you might not get as clean of a system... you can use something like debfoster if you want to clean things up more... just remember that the only real difference between Ubuntu Studio and Ubuntu proper (or Mint or Kubuntu, etc) are the software installed, they are all just Ubuntu really
[01:51] <lunitik> AlexAverill: So all the software in Ubuntu Studio can be easily installed on Ubuntu, too
[01:51] <lunitik> AlexAverill: Only difference is you don't get stuck with XFce or whatever they're using now
[01:52] <lunitik> Yeah, ubuntustudio-desktop has XFce  :/
[01:52] <lunitik> You can go through the ubuntustudio-* packages and pick and choose what you actually will need.
[01:53] <Jordan_U> lunitik: Mint uses different repositories, it is not an official flavor (or remix) of Ubuntu.
[01:54] <lunitik> Jordan_U: Can just add those repos to Ubuntu, though, Clem doesn't do enough to make it incompatible.
[01:55] <lunitik> Jordan_U: The additional repos are FOR Ubuntu releases, but contain things like codecs and proprietary software and such
[01:55] <BluesKaj> think I might put mint back on the other partition , sabayon is too security driven
[01:56] <wood_quinn> :) Three flood bots
[01:57] <Jordan_U> lunitik: It's enough of a change that Mint is not supported here, an important distinction between Mint and {K,X,L,}Ubuntu/Ubuntu Studio.
[01:58] <lunitik> Jordan_U: Mint isn't supported here because their users are too antagonistic to Ubuntu itself.
[01:59] <wood_quinn> The difference between Mint and *buntu is that Mint isn't *buntu.
[01:59] <wood_quinn> Kind of like the difference between Ubuntu and Windows is that Ubuntu isn't Windows!
[01:59] <lunitik> wood_quinn: Yes it is...
[02:00] <lunitik> Mint is far closer to Ubuntu than, for instance, Debian is close to Ubuntu. Adding a few PPA's doesn't make it another distro
[02:00] <Grenat> Salut, Je suis nouveau sur unbuntu,  j'aurais besoin de quelque conseil
[02:01] <lunitik> !french | Grenat
[02:06] <mr_gees100_peas> hi, I have a problem with ubuntu 12.04. If i leave the computer unused for a while the wired connection drops and it can't recover. I have to restart the system to get the connection back.
[02:11] <KI4RO> .
[02:15] <ykima> Hello!
[02:15] <Q17> hi
[02:16] <Q17> must b early all chat rooms quite
[02:16] <tripelb> is there a #chwnnel for ubuntustudio (I heard about it here, minutes ago and looked it up. how fast a machjine do yuou "need"?
[02:17] <Q17> i3
[02:17] <Q17> why?
[02:17] <Q17> looking for backtrack 5 rooms
[02:18] <Fyodorovna> tripelb, #ubuntustudio however only 39 users there you can get help here.
[02:18] <tripelb> Q17: could you explain what you mean? situation, problem. thanks
[02:18] <Q17> just got my alfa adapter
[02:19] <happyface> how can I run service 'servicename' start in verbose mode or see a log? it just says fail
[02:19] <Q17> trying to crack wep wifi but cant
[02:19] <tripelb> fyodorovna are you here? i want to know how much resources i should have to run it.
[02:20] <wilee-nilee> Q17, the backtrack channels require you to be in a limited account to use.
[02:20] <Q17> where do i get an account
[02:20] <tripelb> fyodorovna are you here? i want to know how much resources i should have to run it.  wilee-nilee
[02:20] <wilee-nilee> Q17, I mean not in root in backtrack not sure if you are or not
[02:21] <tripelb> wondering what a backtrack channel is.
[02:21] <maestrojed> I have an Ubuntu10 box that I use as a media center.  I am about to upgrade to Ubuntu12. I used XBMC and my browser mostly. Any other tips to optimize Ubuntu for the 10ft./Couch experience?
[02:21] <Q17> root?
[02:23] <wilee-nilee> tripelb, I suspect the same minimal requirements needed for ubuntu https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[02:23] <wilee-nilee> Q17, backtrack installs and is run as root you need a second account that isn't.
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> Q17, open a terminal in backtrack and you shpuld see blah@blah# not blah@blah$
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> *should
[02:26] <Q17> this is what thats there root@bt:~#
[02:27] <wilee-nilee> Q17, the backtrack channels will  block you then, and we don't support backtrack here or cracking as a heads up. ;D
[02:29] <wilee-nilee> Q17, so make a second account that is not root and join #backtrack  not sure if you need a IRC account though.
[02:29] <Q17> using xchat
[02:30] <Q17> ok but look theres now kali
[02:31] <Izach|> Question: Is it posible to install Ubuntu into a USB using the Wubi installer?
[02:31] <Izach|> onto*
[02:32] <linusasus6> in french they told me no
[02:32] <Izach|> oh, okay.
[02:32] <Izach|> Why in French?
[02:33] <linusasus6> because I ask the same question than you here no one answer so I try the french channel
[02:33] <Jordan_U> Izach|: No. What is your end goal?
[02:34] <Izach|> Jordan_U, I dont really understand your question...
[02:35] <Jordan_U> Izach|: There must be a reason that you asked your quetion, something you're trying to accomplish. What are you trying to accomplish?
[02:35] <Izach|> I am on the Ubuntu Wubi install screen, and it is asking for a drive; wouldn't that mean i could just select the USB drive
[02:36] <linusasus6> me I got a simple question then what is the minimum space allowed for / if install ubuntu 12.04 64 bits : 14, 15 or 20GO
[02:36] <Izach|> >My C: drive is getting to big so i would need to install Ubuntu on y USB in order to have room
[02:36] <Jordan_U> Izach|: No. Wubi is designed to be run from the same partition as Windows, and doesn't function well any other way. Why not install Ubuntu onto the USB drive via the normal installer?
[02:37] <Kow> linusasus6, 10G is plenty for / i believe the default install is ~5G
[02:38] <nostriluu> hi, ubuntu 12.04. i've got a monitor on vga and a projector on hdmi with intel 4000 graphics. it defaults to hdmi, even when the projector's not on. any solution ?
[02:38] <nostriluu> defaults as in the (actually default) monitor shuts off on bootup
[02:38] <linusasus6> because vmware recommand minimum 20GO dunno why
[02:38] <smithw> is there a way to set up start scripts/application that are kde and unity specific? I'd like to change my system configuration on startup depending on which DE is running
[02:39] <evilytwisted> can i install ubuntu 12.04 server remotly to a server box?
[02:40] <evilytwisted> Or use a usb?
[02:40] <rafaelsoaresbr> linusasus6, 8GiB is enough, I have 8GiB for / plus 8GiB for /usr
[02:41] <Izach|> Jordan_U, well, I actually stopped to 12 hour installation because i was thinking that the Wubi would be faster; in fact it was, fast installation at that. What drive should i Install the OS into (Options: F: 44GB free, or I: 7GB free)
[02:41] <linusasus6> ok so 16GB
[02:42] <rafaelsoaresbr> linusasus6, yes, because i wanted to use two Hard Disks
[02:42] <Izach|> I would think F: because it has more space, but i dont know if Windows is using that space for anything (how computers use of memory for there OS is beyond me)
[02:42] <nostriluu> evilytwisted sure if you have a remote kvm
[02:42] <Jordan_U> Izach|: Where were you installing Ubuntu too with the 12 hour installation, and did the installation seem to be stuck at one particular step, or just very slowly (but continuously) making progress?
[02:42] <linusasus6> what do you mean you got 2 /home
[02:43] <rafaelsoaresbr> linusasus6, /dev/sda1 -> / ; /dev/sda2 -> /home ; /deb/sdb1 -> /usr ; /dev/sdb2 -> swap
[02:44] <lotus-blade> Mt screen just flshed a few times and now my mouse and keyboard are frozen
[02:44] <Guest4798> O.o
[02:44] <Izach|> Jordan_U: it was simply a large file (700^MB) so my internet was working at it slow, but yes it was continuous
[02:44] <SmileyJames> Hello?
[02:44] <redpanda> hiiiii
[02:45] <sexy_boy_21> list$
[02:45] <evilytwisted> nostriluu:  kvm on the server box or the pc i wish to use?
[02:45] <SmileyJames> :D First time using IRC
[02:45] <Izach|> Jordan_U: not to be rude but, may you please answer my second question about what drive to install Ubuntu into
[02:46] <sexy_boy_21> hey, can somebody point out how i can see a complete list of all the channels on freenode??
[02:47] <wanda_the_dyke> what client are you using?
[02:47] <linusasus6> rafaelsoaresbr me I usually do /dev/sdb1 -> / ; /dev/sdb2 -> /home ; /dev/sdb3 -> swap but now I want to do it on a 120 GB external HDD
[02:47] <wilee-nilee> sexy_boy_21,  /list it will show in the freenode channel.
[02:48] <pilap> Hi folks, anyone here talking? I can't get any help from the Xubuntu channel cause no one's there. I'm hoping this is just a general Ubuntu problem.
[02:48] <pilap> Or a dumb error on my part.
[02:48] <mandoguit> sexy_boy_21:   if you are running xchat    Server > List of Channels > Download List > Find (type in search word) > Search
[02:48] <evilytwisted> pilap:  whats your issue?
[02:48] <wilee-nilee> sexy_boy_21, depending on the chat client it may be in the menu to bring it up as well.
[02:49] <pilap> Well, I installed Samba. I changed a few settings around inside of it, and I tried to reboot. I was met with a black screen after choosing Ubuntu from GRUB Bootloader.
[02:49] <happyface> how can I run service 'servicename' start in verbose mode or see a log? it just says fail
[02:49] <pilap> Xubuntu flashed quickly and I got a black scrren
[02:49] <pilap> I then pressed ctrl+alt F1 to get to a terminal thing
[02:49] <pilap> logged in
[02:49] <pilap> entered sudo killall -9 Xorg
[02:49] <rafaelsoaresbr> linusasus6, 8-16 GiB for /, if you like to install too many packages
[02:49] <pilap> and it worked.
[02:49] <evilytwisted> ok?
[02:50] <pilap> I'm not sure if Samba was the issue, because a previous installation of Xubuntu fell to the same error, but to fix it, I had to reinstall a couple packages that the restricted-extras patched over.
[02:50] <Zylith> I am hoping someone can help me. Ubuntu 12.10 wont mount my dvd drive when I put a cd/dvd in it
[02:50] <pilap> Whereas this time I had to killall -9 Xorg and now I can use Xubuntu normally. Any Idea what happened and maybe can you recommend something I can do to prevent it?
[02:50] <Jordan_U> Izach|: Just knowing the "drive letters" in Windows doesn't help much, among other things Windows doesn't treat "drives" and "partitions" separately which confuses things. What physical drives do you have, are they internal or external, how much free space do you have on them, and what are you usin each for currently?
[02:51] <evilytwisted> Pilap Not trying to have you repeat your problem over and over.. but i h ave no idea about xamba..... i merely asked you to state your issue so others with guru knowledge could help you
[02:51] <wanda_the_dyke> any one have the grub boot code for  linuxmint-14.1-mate-dvd-32bit.iso
[02:51] <pilap> Aaah. My apologies. I got it to work now though. Just maybe wondering what I did wrong or if I could change something so it doesn't happen again
[02:51] <Jordan_U> !mint | wanda_the_dyke
[02:53] <linusasus6> rafaelsoaresbr  ok thank will do 16 then / -] 16 GB /home -] 91.79GB and swap 4 GB
[02:53] <Zylith> any help would be appreciated
[02:53] <deltree_> ok, so I built another VM, and installed gparted and I'm confused as to what I'm seeing
[02:54] <Izach|> C: is my main memory dive (physical memory), and : is being used y windows for Backup drive, which is very much empty
[02:54] <deltree_> it's claming that 12 gigs are used on this one, why would the same os take 4 more gigs?
[02:54] <Izach|> ^ all internal no external
[02:55] <deltree_> lvm2 pv on /dev/sda5 is using 11.73G of 11.76
[02:55] <redpanda> mandoguit: u are here too
[02:56] <linusasus6> rafaelsoaresbr is /home necessary I can do the 91.79GB an NTFS partition so it can be read in windows
[02:56] <deltree_> I suspect that it's going to say it's all used no matter what size drive I give it
[02:57] <mandoguit> redpanda:   yep  :)   just off to watch a movie with the wife though.... catch you later :)
[02:57] <rafaelsoaresbr> linusasus6, no, it isn't necessary.
[02:57] <javanic> hello
[02:59] <javanic> any ubuntu pros here?
[02:59] <linusasus6> rafaelsoaresbr thank have a good nite my next thing I'M planning to install ubuntu phone on my Sony Xperia V is the image is avaible yet or nothing official yet
[02:59] <holstein> !ask | javanic
[02:59] <deltree_> if I adjust the size of the vdi drive in Vbox, will it just take more? I mean, according to VBox the HD is actually on 50kb-ish in size
[02:59] <holstein> !phone | linusasus6
[03:00] <Zylith> cd dvd drive not mounting? any help would be great :)
[03:00] <javanic> i'm currently using pclos, and about to switch to ubuntu... any suggestions as far as installation, partitioning or anything else?
[03:01] <holstein> javanic: let the installer partition.. try it live.. enjoy!
[03:01] <wilee-nilee> Zylith, Have you booted a live cd to see if it happens in that circumstance?
[03:01] <rafaelsoaresbr> linusasus6, I want to see ubuntu running on my motorola defy :-D
[03:01] <deltree_> came in earlier, had a basic 8g vbox ubuntu server install.  It kept complaining about being out of space.  Built a duplicate on a 12G drive, and installed gparted and it still looks full
[03:01] <Zylith> no
[03:02] <Zylith> I will give that a try
[03:03] <javanic> holstein: ok thanks, i'm just so annoyed with pclos.. and i can't even get updates anymore, let alone any support lol
[03:03] <Izach|> Jordan_U ? are you still here?
[03:03] <linusasus6> rafaelsoaresbr but it look like the image are only for Samsung and LG
[03:04] <linusasus6> rafaelsoaresbr we have to wait I guess for other device
[03:04] <javanic> ok guys i'm out, have a good night!
[03:05] <deltree_> according to the specs, 1G is enough for ubuntu server, and 5G is enough for xubuntu, so I don't undedrstand why 8 or 12 gigs are claiming to be full with ubuntu-server + xubuntu-desktop
[03:07] <linusasus6> well have a good nite everyone thank
[03:07] <wilee-nilee> deltree_, Vbox will not clean out like a regular install it just gets fuller at least the vdi or whatever type you used is measured from the host.
[03:08] <deltree_> wilee-nilee clean out?
[03:09] <lolcat> sexy_boy_21: lol
[03:09] <wilee-nilee> deltree_, lets say you removed the desktop, the file of the OS if looked at from properties in the host will not show it reducing in size
[03:09] <lolcat> deltree_: I can explain
[03:09] <Hag> i need help
[03:09] <lolcat> deltree_: How did you find it was full?
[03:10] <evilytwisted> could someone help me getting past the cd requirement for installing ubuintu server on hte usb?
[03:10] <holstein> !ask | Hag
[03:10] <evilytwisted> off *
[03:10] <lolcat> deltree_: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[03:10] <deltree_> it started throwing errors over everything about being out of space.  When I started up the new VM gparted says it's full right now
[03:10] <holstein> evilytwisted: try dd-ing the image
[03:10] <evilytwisted> what?
[03:10] <lolcat> deltree_: Oh, never mind that then
[03:10] <Hag> ok well i built a computer and first os i downloaded was ubuntu and now i wnna delete ubuntu and download windows 7 please help
[03:10] <evilytwisted> holstein:  what?>
[03:11] <holstein> Hag: you dont download windows 7 AFAIK... but you can just install overtop of ubuntu.. you dont need to do anything in preperation for that
[03:11] <deltree_> I know it's something to do with the LVM, but I don't know how to look at that
[03:11] <holstein> !dd
[03:11] <holstein> !info dd
[03:11] <deltree_> *know = suspect
[03:11] <lunitik> Hag: You don't delete Ubuntu, you just let Windows format the drive during its install.
[03:12] <Hag> will ubuntu still work or windows will create its own partition
[03:12] <Hag> will it*
[03:12] <evilytwisted> holstein:  what are you talking about dd?
[03:12] <holstein> evilytwisted: http://askubuntu.com/questions/116942/any-way-to-manually-make-a-bootable-usb-from-iso example of dd copying iso
[03:12] <holstein> !grub | Hag
[03:12] <izya> всем при
[03:12] <izya> м
[03:13] <Hag> ok thank you very much you guys
[03:13] <holstein> ^^ you can reat that, Hag about "fixing" grub after installing windows
[03:13] <lunitik> !info coreutils | holstein
[03:13] <lunitik> holstein: That is where dd comes from
[03:13] <holstein> lunitik: you want me to link that to evilytwisted ?
[03:14] <evilytwisted> holstein:  whats the diffrence between this and what unetbootin does?
[03:14] <holstein> evilytwisted: its different, and it might work..
[03:14] <lunitik> holstein: I'm not following that discussion, just letting you know because you requested it of the bot earlier
[03:14] <wilee-nilee> Hag, you can dual boot but it is advised in general to have windows in the first partition on the HD, a W7 install will make a boot partition and a partition for the main OS, these should be at the front in order to have ease of use.
[03:14] <izya> ребята,помагите поставить др веб
[03:14] <lunitik> !russian
[03:15] <lunitik> Those can't be words, I don't buy it
[03:15] <dank101> hello
[03:15] <dank101> anyone here
[03:16] <lunitik> dank101: yes
[03:16] <evilytwisted> lunitik:  Not to bother you with questions.. But will coreutil work to do what i want,? Which is bypassing the cd requirement when installing ubuntu 12.04 server via a usb?
[03:16] <holstein> !ask | dank101
[03:16] <dank101> i have a dare for all of you
[03:16] <holstein> dank101: no thanks.. this is not the channel for that
[03:16] <lunitik> evilytwisted: holstein showed you a link how to do that.
[03:16] <evilytwisted> yeah i saw it
[03:16] <dank101> it's relating to Ubuntu
[03:16] <evilytwisted> ok
[03:17] <dank101> write a history on Ubuntu without using wikipedia
[03:17] <lunitik> evilytwisted: unetbootin will do it too, but it does strange things which aren't necessary and in some cases make ISO's not function
[03:17] <wilee-nilee> evilytwisted, you might try #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:17] <holstein> !ot | dank101
[03:17] <izya> Hi
[03:17] <lunitik> dank101: This is a support channel, try #ubuntu-offotpic
[03:17] <dank101> sorry
[03:17] <wilee-nilee> dank101, ^^^^^ sorry evilytwisted
[03:17] <lunitik> pretend I can type though
[03:17] <izya> please help my for setup dr web
[03:17] <evilytwisted> Lol
[03:17] <izya> -}
[03:17] <evilytwisted> i was wondering.. what did i do?
[03:17] <lunitik> !russian | izya
[03:18] <izya> am
[03:18] <AndroUser2> !ot | dank101
[03:18] <happyface> how can I run service 'servicename' start in verbose mode or see a log? it just says fail
[03:18] <izya> My Einglish very very bad
[03:18] <wilee-nilee> #ubuntu-offtopic actually dank101
[03:18] <izya> im Russia
[03:18] <izya> lol
[03:18] <dank101> I know
[03:18] <lunitik> izya: Not very bad, but it will be easier if you speak your native language there
[03:19] <ubulove> Hi all, I tried everything in my laptop to boot ubuntu (USB/CD). Also checked md5sum etc. All fine. But it gets stuck somewhere and then that's it. What else can I do?
[03:20] <lunitik> happyface: most logs are outputted to /var/log/messages ... systemd does this in a nicer way but Ubuntu doesn't use it
[03:20] <ghost562> ubulove, any errors you get?
[03:20] <evilytwisted> holstein:  does this mean i did it correctly? http://pastebin.com/LZkyLX0Q
[03:20] <holstein> !nomodeset | ubulove
[03:21] <holstein> evilytwisted: i would test booting it
[03:21] <evilytwisted> ok
[03:21] <ubulove> ghost562: No.
[03:21] <ghost562> ubulove, what exactly happens?
[03:21] <ubulove> holstein: actually yes, I'm stucked on a black screen with a _ turn on and off.
[03:22] <izya> im here download pack x86.run, who run???  не магу понять чо делать с этим расширением
[03:22] <wilee-nilee> holstein, 14736251 hint hint
[03:22] <ubulove> ghost562: It goes in a black screen with a _ on the top left corner blinking.
[03:22] <holstein> ubulove: and you tried nomodeset?
[03:22] <holstein> wilee-nilee: ?
[03:22] <wilee-nilee> holstein, chord progressions
[03:22] <ubulove> holtein: no, Im gonna give it a try now. I never had this problem before.
[03:23] <wilee-nilee> holstein, just saying hello.
[03:23] <holstein> wilee-nilee: oh.. cheers!
[03:23] <izya> am....thire speaking Russian Languesh?
[03:24] <izya> Есть тут рускоговорящие ?
[03:24] <ubulove> holtein: I have Ubuntu now on a USB PENDRIVE. I hope it helps me.
[03:25] <ghost562> ubulove, should still work
[03:25] <ubulove> ghost562: ok, i will take a look in that website. thank you very much! both of you! :) if i have more Q i will ask again, be sure :D
[03:25] <ghost562> ok
[03:26] <ubulove> ghost562: btw, I just want to install ubuntu as dual boot.
[03:26] <ubulove> shall I see nomodeset again ?
[03:26] <ghost562> you need to install ubuntu first, then windoze
[03:26] <izya> is here dyudi russian speakers?
[03:26] <ubulove> ghost562: I have Windoze 7, I cant install ubuntu now?
[03:27] <wilee-nilee> ghost562, not true windows should be installed first.
[03:27] <wilee-nilee> or at least at the beginning of the HD
[03:27] <ghost562> you can, reduce the partition, then install ubuntu and then usegrub to boot
[03:27] <izya> помагите поставить др веб, что за расширение run? чо с ним делать? использую убунту
[03:28] <izya> help others put the web that improving run? Cho to do with it? using ubuntu
[03:28] <wilee-nilee> ubulove, be sure to use the windows partitioner to resize it then reboot for the auto chkdsk then install ubuntu.
[03:28] <ubulove> ghost562: I never had these problems before. Thats weird for me.
[03:28] <evilytwisted> holstein:  that doesnt do anything to the usb
[03:29] <ubulove> wilee-nilee: the problem is I cant even try ubuntu from a usb bootable. I think there is a problem with my laptop.
[03:29] <evilytwisted> and im using the right drive letter
[03:29] <wilee-nilee> ubulove, it wont boot the usb?
[03:30] <ubulove> wilee-nilee: yes, both usb/cd i get stuck on a black screen with a _ blinking and then after some time my laptop turns off. On my desktop it continues and enters ubuntu normally from usb/cd.
[03:30] <ghost562> ubulove, i recenltly had a hard time trying to install ubuntu, i don't know whats happened, but i got it to install after several attempts.
[03:30] <wilee-nilee> ubulove, there is a perboot manual key prompt mine is f12 at starting the computer for the boot from list outside of the bios.
[03:30] <ubulove> ghost562: thanks man, am trying every day many times..
[03:31] <ghost562> ubulove, when the ubuntu screen hit f6, and try nomodeset, that should fix it.
[03:31] <ubulove> wilee-nilee: mine is F9
[03:31] <ubulove> ok brb !:)
[03:31] <wilee-nilee> ubulove, So it is a graphic problem right?
[03:31] <ghost562> ubulove, good luck :D
[03:31] <ghost562> wilee-nilee, she gone.
[03:35] <izya> was simple, it was necessary to put a checkbox to allow execution of a file as a program -) so I deer
[03:35] <ghost562> I have a question, how would one shutdown/restart using terminal.
[03:35] <ghost562> ?
[03:35] <izya> shutdown
[03:35] <izya> reboot
[03:35] <izya> shutdown - a
[03:36] <ghost562> ok, so basically, just (shutdown -a)?
[03:36] <ghost562> no sudo required?
[03:36] <slonsiki> shutdown -rf
[03:37] <ghost562> coolio, thanks.
[03:37] <izya> if there is a planned shutdown state, the command cancels it off
[03:38] <ghost562> ah, abort, duh.
[03:38] <izya> like so
[03:40] <ghost562> well gents/ladies, i will see you all later.
[03:41] <evilytwisted> holstein:  couild i continue to use your assistance? regarding the dd thing? It suposedly put it on the usb.. but the device wont boot
[03:42] <ubulove> maybe it's a problem with my laptop ?
[03:44] <wilee-nilee> ubulove, you tried the nomodeset option?
[03:44] <ubulove> wilee-nilee: no, how can I try it when am on Windows ?
[03:44] <wilee-nilee> ubulove, this is a wubi install?
[03:45] <ubulove> wilee-nilee: no am trying to install it from a usb and make a partition 30GB etc.
[03:45] <ubulove> wilee-nilee: or at least use it from usb first.
[03:46] <evilytwisted> holstein:  are you stil around? It wont load/ boot up
[03:46] <wilee-nilee> ubulove, how did you load the USB?
[03:47] <ubulove> wilee-nilee: by pressing F9 and selecting boot from USB
[03:47] <wilee-nilee> ubulove, I mean put the ISO on the usb?
[03:47] <ubulove> wilee-nilee: I think my laptop gets old. Because before 1 year I could install ubuntu.
[03:47] <ubulove> wilee-nilee: I used pendrive.
[03:48] <wilee-nilee> ubulove, they have several loaders yumi?
[03:48] <ubulove> wilee-nilee: What do you mean?
[03:49] <wilee-nilee> ubulove, was it this one,  http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/
[03:49] <evilytwisted> wilee-nilee:  i was using dd  unetbootin, it wouldnt load for me either
[03:50] <ubulove> wilee-nilee: yes.
[03:51] <wilee-nilee> ubulove, so when you choose the usb to boot what happens then do you get a menu to install try or check the ram?
[03:51] <ubulove> wilee-nilee: no it wasn't yumu
[03:51] <ubulove> it was only universal usb installer.
[03:51] <ubulove> hmm..
[03:52] <wilee-nilee> ubulove, can you answer the last question.
[03:52] <ubulove> no am not getting even on the menu you are asking for.
[03:52] <ubulove> thats why am confused with my laptop
[03:53] <wilee-nilee> ubulove, do you when you boot it on the computer that works with the usb?
[03:53] <ubulove> yes on my desktop it works perfectly
[03:53] <ubulove> on my laptop it doesnt work
[03:54] <ubulove> maybe my hard disk is failing ?
[03:54] <wilee-nilee> ubulove, do you get the menu booting the usb on the computer that works perfectly
[03:54] <ubulove> wilee-nilee: yes
[03:56] <wilee-nilee> ubulove, strange, generally in the boot if it is a graphic driver problem which nomodeset is for you should see the menu.  I assume you have used the usb to see if it boots lately on the computer that works.
[03:56] <ubulove> wilee-nilee: I think my laptop is getting old.
[03:57] <ubulove> :-/
[03:58] <ubulove> wilee-nilee: thank you for your time.
[03:58] <wilee-nilee> ubulove, no problem.
[04:01] <dial-a-monkey> Hey does anyone know an app that I can use on my Linux server that presents a address bar that I can type in a url - I want to connect to my EC2 server from my work PC through a ssl tunnel then be able to go to any website
[04:05] <evilytwisted> wilee-nilee:  could i use some of your time?
[04:05] <wilee-nilee> evilytwisted, I know 0 about servers.
[04:05] <evilytwisted> IM not asking about servers, Im asking how to install a ubuntu iso from a usb
[04:05] <evilytwisted> and install it onto the pc without needing the cd
[04:05] <xenofiler> evening all
[04:06] <wilee-nilee> evilytwisted, sure go ahead.
[04:06] <evilytwisted> OK.. SO i used the dd thing holstein  mentioned...
[04:06] <xenofiler> i have yet another question that mabye you all can help with.
[04:06] <evilytwisted> it put it on just fine
[04:06] <evilytwisted> except all the files were in a weird language.. i dont understand
[04:06] <evilytwisted> alot of symbols..
[04:06] <xenofiler> im getting a  cannot execute binary file when trying to run a program via terminal
[04:07] <evilytwisted> SO.. i went back to unetbootin.... and tried again with it.. It ran except it insist to use cd rom..
[04:07] <evilytwisted> I went to this site..
[04:07] <evilytwisted> * chillpil1_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection)  it claimed... it would work except when i followed the commands given
[04:07] <evilytwisted> sorry..
[04:07] <wilee-nilee> evilytwisted, Ah do you have a linux setup to load the USB?
[04:07] <evilytwisted> http://www.yaaic.org)
[04:07] <evilytwisted> <evi *
[04:08] <evilytwisted> Yueah..
[04:08] <evilytwisted> except.. erm
[04:08] <doubleharmonicmi> a quick gnome 3 question... when I hit the super key, it shows me a black screen with the activities and worskpace switthcer overlay, instead of my normal background.
[04:08] <doubleharmonicmi> is this even the right channel to be asking this in the first place?
[04:09] <wilee-nilee> evilytwisted, this is the loader I use. http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[04:09] <evilytwisted> I ve used that..
[04:09] <evilytwisted> http://www.mattkowalczyk.com/blog/?p=169
[04:09] <evilytwisted> finally..
[04:09] <evilytwisted> if you could click that link.. it says to mount via -t
[04:09] <evilytwisted> when i did that.. it claims its a invalid format
[04:11] <wilee-nilee> evilytwisted, I rarely have had install problems so I have not really concentrated in this area, I doubt I can really help.
[04:12] <evilytwisted> have you ever tried to install anything ubuntu related from a usb ?
[04:12] <wilee-nilee> evilytwisted, 100's of times along with all the major linux OS.
[04:13] <evilytwisted> have you ever had an issue where it required a cd.. But your using usb?
[04:13] <wilee-nilee> evilytwisted, a long time ago I think, I forget really.
[04:13] <evilytwisted> thats my problenm
[04:13] <wilee-nilee> evilytwisted, are you using plop to boot the usb?
[04:14] <evilytwisted> plop? as in place iso in it and expect it to work?
[04:14] <evilytwisted> no
[04:14] <wilee-nilee> evilytwisted, plop is for booting usb on computers that are to old to boot a usb that is the only instance I recall where your problem has shown.
[04:15] <evilytwisted> im using a pentium 4 processor..
[04:15] <evilytwisted> Old old old pc..
[04:15] <wilee-nilee> evilytwisted, it boots the usb or what?
[04:15] <evilytwisted> It boots the usb just fine..
[04:15] <evilytwisted> But it requires a cd...
[04:16] <wilee-nilee> evilytwisted, bummer thats beyond my help.
[04:16] <evilytwisted> ok ty
[04:17] <AureliusR> hey I'm having problems with audio. I need to learn how to remove a driver in ubuntu
[04:18] <lunitik> AureliusR: you don't really remove drivers in Ubuntu, you throw 'blacklist themodule' into a file in /etc/modprob.d/
[04:19] <lunitik> AureliusR: what is actually wrong though?
[04:19] <AureliusR> well I'm not getting any audio at all anymore. and I checked all the little things like muting, etc
[04:19] <AureliusR> and no audio modules are being loaded anymore, since I installed the driver
[04:21] <AureliusR> I know my chipset is ALC889A, but when I open audio setup it says 'KDE has detected one or more internal devices have been removed: do you want KDE to forget about these devices?'
[04:22] <lunitik> AureliusR: Did you try just clicking "yes"?
[04:22] <veggteppey> Anyone got any clue why my razer keyboard, and mouse won't load when starting ubuntu setup ? 'Input not supported' does provide the nessesairy iformation that it's not supported, but is there a bypass to it?
[04:22] <AureliusR> no, but how would that help?
[04:22] <lunitik> AureliusR: Also, why did you install new drivers when it was working?
[04:22] <AureliusR> lunitik: because I'm retarded :P
[04:22] <AureliusR> even I know better than that.
[04:23] <barrydtreasure_> any info on why gnome 3 would display a black backgorund when I press the super key?
[04:23] <AureliusR> but in windows, it had the latest realtek drivers and realtek suggested upgrading all, including linux drivers
[04:23] <lunitik> AureliusR: Realtek doesn't do the opensource drivers
[04:23] <AureliusR> yeah I know
[04:24] <AureliusR> my mistake. i realized they were old
[04:24] <lunitik> AureliusR: So why would you listen to them about your drivers?
[04:24] <AureliusR> and the info I was reading was very old
[04:24] <AureliusR> but my stupidity aside, how do I go on from here?
[04:24] <lunitik> AureliusR: The kernel guys maintain most drivers, ignore the hardware manufacturers, this isn't Windows
[04:25] <lunitik> AureliusR: I already told you
[04:25] <lunitik> AureliusR: you don't really remove drivers in Ubuntu, you throw 'blacklist themodule' into a file in /etc/modprob.d/
[04:25] <AureliusR> right but how do I find the names of those modules?
[04:25] <AureliusR> and how do I get it to load the regular old audio modules?
[04:26] <lunitik> AureliusR: I don't know because I have no idea how Realtek names their module... usually lsmod | grep snd will show it but you'll have to look at lsmod and try to figure out which it is prolly
[04:26] <lunitik> AureliusR: I don't know how you think you removed it
[04:26] <AureliusR> but in lsmod no modules show up for audio
[04:27] <Hanger> hello?
[04:27] <lunitik> AureliusR: Can you paste its output somewhere?
[04:27] <lunitik> Hanger: hi
[04:27] <AureliusR> sure, one sec
[04:27] <Hanger> whats this chat about
[04:28] <Hanger> how come hardly anybody is talking
[04:28] <AureliusR> lunitik: http://aurelius.pastebay.net/1189829
[04:31] <lunitik> AureliusR: weird... and how did you remove the driver? and how did you add the new one?
[04:32] <AureliusR> I haven't removed anything yet. and I installed the 'new' one using the install script that it came with
[04:32] <AureliusR> after installing, the new modules were there, and then I rebooted and they were gone, no working audio
[04:32] <james1> hello everyone
[04:33] <james1> would anyone have a recommand program that would work with microsoft outlook pst files
[04:33] <Tops> Hello, I was trying to install Ubuntu 12.10 32-bit onto an external hard drive. I was able to boot into Ubuntu to finish my installation, but it said something no defined root directory and for me to change in the partition page...or something like that. If anybody can help, please start a private conversation with me here on the IRC. Thanks!
[04:34] <wilee-nilee> Tops, this a wubi install?
[04:34] <Tops> Yes
[04:34] <lunitik> james1: apt-cache search outlook pst shows a few examples
[04:35] <wilee-nilee> Tops, thats your problem it is a file and should be installed in the OS, not a external
[04:35] <lunitik> AureliusR: I am confused, I dunno what you've done
[04:35] <AureliusR> yeah me either.
[04:35] <Tops> How come I can't install it to an external hard drive?
[04:36] <lunitik> Tops: You can, but your grub has to know what drive it is on...
[04:36] <wilee-nilee> Tops, wubi is not a standard install it ends up just being a file, you could do a full install from a cd or usb to the external but it will run slow.
[04:36] <AureliusR> unless its a USB3.0 external
[04:36] <lunitik> wilee-nilee: wait, this is wubi?
[04:36] <wilee-nilee> lunitik, you caught it is a wubi?
[04:37] <lunitik> wilee-nilee: no, but you're talking about wubi
[04:37] <Tops> wilee-nilee: I tried that. The main computer I'm trying to install Ubuntu won't boot the ISO from either my flash drive, external hard drive, or DVD (and yes the ISO was burned to it)
[04:37] <wilee-nilee> lunitik, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wubi
[04:37] <lunitik> wilee-nilee: why are you linking me to this? I am trying to figure out why you brought it up in the first place
[04:38] <wilee-nilee> Tops, you familiar with the per-session boot using a key at powering on to get the boot from menu outside the bios?
[04:39] <wilee-nilee> lunitik, the user said he had to boot ubuntu for the install big red wubi flag.
[04:39] <wilee-nilee> not a normal boot from a usb or cd
[04:39] <Tops> wilee-nilee: The way you worded that confused me...but if you're wondering if I set the boot priority to the DVD drive/external hard drive/flash drive, then yes, I did.
[04:39] <wilee-nilee> lunitik, I linked as you asked what a wubi is.
[04:39] <lunitik> wilee-nilee: not really, and I didn't ask what wubi is, I asked why you're talking about it.
[04:40] <lunitik> Tops: Are you using wubi?
[04:40] <AureliusR> lunitik: he already said yes
[04:40] <wilee-nilee> Tops, Right, however there is another way to boot a cd or usb, using a key mine f12 at powering on to get a boot from menu outside the bios.
[04:40] <lunitik> AureliusR: where?
[04:40] <Tops> lunitik: Before hand I wasn't. I just recently tried to use wubi to install Ubuntu to my external hard drive since the computer I'm trying to install Ubuntu on won't recognize the ISO
[04:40] <AureliusR> lunitik: right before you said to me, I am confused, I dunno what you've done
[04:40] <wilee-nilee> lunitik, he answered yes when I asked him.
[04:41] <Tops> wilee-nilee: I'll try that.
[04:41] <lunitik> AureliusR: ahh, I see it now
[04:41]  * lunitik shuts up
[04:41] <AureliusR> Tops: just look for a key beside the words 'Boot Menu' or something like that
[04:41] <Tops> wilee-nilee: Give me 5 or more minutes and I'll get back to you guys. I'm gonna try that real quick.
[04:41] <AureliusR> lunitik: its okay, I didn't mean to sound harsh
[04:41] <wilee-nilee> Tops, your key might be a different one so you can look on the web with your computer model and per session boot.
[04:41] <AureliusR> Tops: it could be any of the F1-F12 keys
[04:42] <tracy> hey guys, how can i type in Chinese in ubuntu?
[04:43] <wilee-nilee> tracy, this might help  http://askubuntu.com/questions/59356/how-do-i-get-chinese-input-to-work
[04:43] <AureliusR> anyway... lunitik do you know what the names of the standard audio modules are in ubuntu 12.10?
[04:43] <tracy> Thanks much, WN
[04:43] <AureliusR> could I just modprobe those?
[04:44] <jbates58> hi, just wondering if someone can help me with an issue im having with my ubuntu. im fairly new to it, and everytime i reboot the machine, the usb hdd i have plugged into it, keeps changing its mount location from xyz to xyz_ to xyz__ etc... i just want to make it so that it mounts to the same point every time the system reboots, so that my downloader can find the location and it dosent screw with it. i dont realy know what to d
[04:44] <lunitik> AureliusR: sure... paste lspci somewhere and I'll even tell you what your module is called
[04:46] <AureliusR> okay cool
[04:46] <Tops> And I'm back
[04:46] <AureliusR> lunitik: lspci -v or just lspci?
[04:46] <Tops> the ISO on the DVD wasn't being recognized
[04:47] <wilee-nilee> Tops, how did you load the iso to the dvd?
[04:47] <AureliusR> Tops: did you use a program like PowerISO to burn the ISO?
[04:47] <lunitik> AureliusR: doesn't matter, they both have what I need, but -v has a bunch of other nonsense I don't
[04:47] <AureliusR> or did you just burn the file?
[04:47] <AureliusR> lunitik: okay
[04:47] <SecretFire> is there a program like maple (the graphing software) for ubuntu?
[04:48] <AureliusR> lunitik: http://aurelius.pastebay.net/1189831
[04:48] <lunitik> SecretFire: apt-cache search graphing ... idk what you mean
[04:48] <Tops> wilee-nilee: I had to tap F1 to get into my BIOS. I then navigated to my BOOT menu and selected my DVD drive as the first boot priorty. I then saved the changes and restarted the computer. It said that no boot drive was available.
[04:49] <AureliusR> SecretFire: try GraphMonkey
[04:49] <Tops> AureliusR: I used the standard image burner that comes with Windows. I birned the ISO to a DVD.
[04:49] <wilee-nilee> Tops, what I described to you has nothing to do with the bios.
[04:49] <Tops> wilee-nilee: Oh
[04:49] <AureliusR> wilee-nilee: its okay he did the same thing, just differently
 : will it do 3d graphs?
[04:49] <AureliusR> Tops: its okay, you did the same thing. the standard windows image burner SUCKS
[04:50] <AureliusR> get PowerISO if you can, if you're in windows
[04:50] <wilee-nilee> Tops, what is your computer model?
[04:50] <AureliusR> its possible that the windows one won't burn bootable ISO's
[04:50] <Tops> The one I'm trying to install Ubuntu on?
[04:50] <AureliusR> wilee-nilee: it doesn't matter if he goes into the boot menu, he already changed the boot priority
[04:50] <wilee-nilee> Tops, the one you're trying to boot the dvdvon.
[04:50] <wilee-nilee> *dvd on
[04:50] <Tops> If you'll give me a few seconds I'll go get it
[04:51]  * AureliusR shuts up.
[04:52] <AureliusR> SecretFire: if it doesn't then there's another that will... hold on
[04:53] <AureliusR> SecretFire: kAlgebra or eXtrema
[04:53] <AureliusR> I think KAlgebra is your best bet, but i'm not %100 sure
[04:53] <lunitik> AureliusR: ugh, everything I'm searching gives me Nvidia graphics info... I've never heard of your audio card.
[04:53] <SecretFire> ill check it out and also try maple via wine
[04:53] <AureliusR> lunitik: did you notice that there's two audio sections in my paste?
[04:54] <Tops> And I'm back with that model number. Just saying, but this is an old, Windows Xp computer
[04:54] <AureliusR> one is the nvidia HD audio module for the HDMI output on my video card, the other is the on-board audio chipset
[04:54] <Tops> HP Pavilion a210e
[04:54] <AureliusR> I know the chipset is ALC889A
[04:54] <lunitik> AureliusR: The one on line 13 is snd-hda-intel
[04:55] <lunitik> AureliusR: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[04:56] <Tops> Hey I'll be back in 15-20 minutes (probably less)
[04:56] <AureliusR> right, someone linked me to that page before, its pretty useless
[04:56] <AureliusR> I dont even have the first directory they tell you to cat to.
[04:56] <AureliusR> and why would it be intel? my whole motherboard is made with AMD chips
[04:57] <lunitik> AureliusR: This is an nvidia guy talking about GPU sound (which is the case for the other) ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/gpu-hdmi-audio-document/gpu-hdmi-audio.html
[04:57] <lunitik> AureliusR: intel defined the spec which others like realtek use
[04:57] <AureliusR> oooh... thank you for clearing that up. I couldn't figure that ou
[04:58] <lunitik> AureliusR: It would be sort of like asking why it uses amd64 for an intel 64bit chip...
[04:58] <AureliusR> lunitik:  I'll try the steps on that first page
[04:58] <AureliusR> lunitik:  lol good point
[04:59] <lunitik> AureliusR: ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/gpu-hdmi-audio-document/gpu-hdmi-audio.html#_trouble_shooting also for the other card
[05:00] <jbates58> hi, just wondering if someone can help me with an issue im having with my ubuntu. im fairly new to it, and everytime i reboot the machine, the usb hdd i have plugged into it, keeps changing its mount location from xyz to xyz_ to xyz__ etc... i just want to make it so that it mounts to the same point every time the system reboots, so that my downloader can find the location and it dosent screw with it. i dont realy know what to d
[05:00] <AureliusR> I'm really not worried about the other card, I don't even use HDMI
[05:00] <AureliusR> I'm just going to try and get my spdif working again. I think I found the right listing in the alsa-driver listings..
[05:01] <lunitik> jbates58: I've never seen that, how are you mounting the drive?
[05:01] <jbates58> its just using the auto mount
[05:01] <jbates58> its a usb external if that matters
[05:01]  * lunitik really really hopes Ubuntu uses systemd in the near future  :/
[05:02] <lunitik> jbates58: you can mount it manually instead of with automount by adding it to fstab
[05:02] <lunitik> systemd does this in a smarter, more predictable way, but Canonical think the brain-damage of upstart is better
[05:02] <jbates58> how do i do that? and will it keep the same mount point every reboot?
[05:02] <lunitik> jbates58: yes
[05:03] <jbates58> ok, how do i do the fstab thing?
[05:03] <lunitik> jbates58: there are many docs online for fstab... google 'fstab howto' and ask questions if you don't understand something after reading
[05:03] <dr_willis> !fstab
[05:04] <lunitik> dr_willis: thank you
[05:04] <jbates58> !fstab
[05:04] <dr_willis> 'doing the fstab thang...'  ;P
[05:04] <dr_willis> sounds like some hiphop song...
[05:05] <jbates58> shouldnt it come back with a pm? nothing has happened.
[05:05] <jbates58> !fstab
[05:05]  * lunitik cannot stress how much upstart sucks enough compared to systemd... almost don't want to use Ubuntu because of this, even though unity is going to be awesome  :(
[05:05] <lunitik> !fstab > jbates58
[05:06] <lunitik> jbates58: ubottu doesn't like you  :P
[05:06] <jbates58> whats ubottu? is that the pm bot?
[05:06] <lunitik> jbates58: it is the channel bot, but I told it to pm you
[05:06] <wilee-nilee> jbates58, channel bot
[05:07] <jbates58> ah cool
[05:07] <redpanda> O.o
[05:07] <redpanda> hii guys
[05:07] <lunitik> !hi
[05:08] <redpanda> i use to help in linuxmint-help... taking a look in ubuntu chat
[05:08] <lunitik> systemd simplifies the system so much, takes away the plethora of repetitious things like init and xinetd and at and cron, and desktop sessions and etc etc... and does things in a modern way... upstart somehow manages to be larger, while only replacing init
[05:08] <jbates58> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab - 404 error
[05:09] <lunitik> plus, upstart does things backwards... loads everything related to dbus if you load dbus, for instance... stupid
[05:09] <datsmoida> does having a screen session connected to a terminal typically take up a lot of cpu ?
[05:09] <dr_willis> jbates58:  it works for me.
[05:10] <lunitik> plus it waits for the service to load, so its parelelization is stupid
[05:10] <datsmoida> like if i had a few screen sessions in the background vs having them connected to terminals would it be reasonable to expect a lot less cpu load ?
[05:10] <chunkyhead> hey guys i was wondering is there an alternative to openOffice on ubuntu? coz let us face it openOffice is really bad
[05:11] <lunitik> chunkyhead: there is libreoffice
[05:11] <lunitik> chunkyhead: calligra too, but that is for KDE
[05:11] <wilee-nilee> chunkyhead, ubuntu uses libreoffice these days
[05:11] <chunkyhead> Lunar_Lamp, my bad i mean libre office
[05:11] <lunitik> Some cool things are coming to both to modernize them, namely telepathy support
[05:12] <jbates58> dr_willis, sorry my browser screwed up. it works now.
[05:12] <chunkyhead> Lunar_Lamp, my bad i mean libre office wilee-nilee
[05:12] <lunitik> chunkyhead: they've cleaned up libreoffice a lot
[05:13] <AureliusR> lunitik: apparently those steps are very outdated, as they pertain to ubuntu 6.04 and 6.10
[05:13] <lunitik> AureliusR: not much has changed since then, though
[05:13] <wilee-nilee> chunkyhead, I just use word nowadays I have to write papers in a grad program and there is a good plugin to make writing faster
[05:13] <chunkyhead> wilee-nilee, lunitik i mainly switched to ubuntu from windows coz windows sucks but then MS Office is pretty good, which makes me wanna go back, i am looking at other options before actually switching back, coz going back to windows would be my last option
[05:13] <dr_willis> hmm.. i really need to figure out why my default browser i thought is firefox.. but links inside gnome-terminal and terminal - get opened in google chrome
[05:13] <AureliusR> lunitik: okay I'll keep trying
[05:14] <wilee-nilee> chunkyhead, you can run word up to 2010 in wine if needed.
[05:14] <lunitik> dr_willis: "Details" has preferred applications...
[05:14] <chunkyhead> wilee-nilee, ah no wonder, i tried running 2013 but it wouldn't run :( btw any good pdf viewing app apart from the one already installed?
[05:15] <wilee-nilee> chunkyhead, acroread is athe adobe reader
[05:15] <wilee-nilee> *the
[05:15] <dak0> @dragancho-System-Product-Name:~$ java -jar '/home/dragancho/Downloads/gcb0g/bin/gcb.jar'
[05:15] <dak0> gcb 0g
[05:15] <dak0> [WC3Interface] Error: cannot bind to broadcast port
[05:15] <dak0>
[05:15] <dak0> does this mean this port is used ?
[05:15] <FloodBot1> dak0: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:16] <chunkyhead> wilee-nilee, i'm guessing the package name is acroread only?
[05:16] <dr_willis> lunitik:  makes me wonder what these browsers asking 'set this browser to be your default'   actually does....
[05:16] <lunitik> dr_willis: it changes preffered applications at dconf/gconf level
[05:17] <dr_willis> lunitik:  and what uses that then? aparently not gnome-terminal
[05:17] <dr_willis> other gnome apps perhaps?
[05:17]  * dr_willis wonders who came up with the names for some of these setting icons..
[05:17] <lunitik> dr_willis: maybe firefox changed it in gconf but gnome-terminal only listens to dconf/gsettings now?
[05:18] <dr_willis> guess thats possible.
[05:18] <dr_willis> seems odd - since firefox is the default to begin with. but it couldent change it back after chrome took it
[05:18] <dr_willis> I have disabled that ubuntu firefox extension. so perhaps that was one of its features
[05:18] <lunitik> dr_willis: thing is, if you patch firefox, you can't use the firefox brand anymore, so you have to try to push upstream, which Canonical doesn't seem to like doing
[05:19] <melikepass23> Hi, I got what is likely an easy question. I want to replace my laptop's wireless NIC from a Broadcom to an Intel. However, the only one I know iwll work is the Intel Centrino Wireless-N 100. Will this card hae any issues in Ubuntu?
[05:19] <lunitik> Pretty much everything Canonical is doing more recently is because they don't like being told no by upstreams, even if the no is because their code sucks
[05:20] <xpro> helloo people
[05:20] <dr_willis> i find it annoying their firefox default extensions change the default 'home screen' of firefox.. was looking for a setting that was right there on the other pcs. but not theubuntu box.
[05:20] <maestrojed> I am following the instructions to upgrade XBMC on Ubuntu. I get to the step to run "sudo add-apt-repository -r ppa:current_XBMC_providing_ppa" and it says "Cannot access PPA (https://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~current_XBMC_providing_ppa/+archive/ppa) to get PPA information, please check your internet connection.". Can anyone help?
[05:22] <AureliusR> maestrojed: are you sure that link is the newest one? are you sure you typed it in right?
[05:23] <maestrojed> AureliusR I am following this guide http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=XBMC_for_Linux_specific_FAQ#Ubuntu_manual_XBMC_upgrade_process
[05:23] <dr_willis> maestrojed:  your ppa:current_XBMC_providing_ppa"  id wrong
[05:24] <dr_willis> thats saying use 'whatever names give the current  xbmc release';
[05:24] <maestrojed> dr_willis what do I do?
[05:24] <dr_willis> its an example.... not a exact line
[05:24] <dr_willis> find the right ppa to use
[05:25] <dr_willis> https://launchpad.net/~team-xbmc/+archive/ppa
[05:25] <maestrojed> dr_willis but I never entered that line in. Its not part of my command. Where does it come from
[05:25] <c|oneman> I installed both chrome and chromium, neither one seems to want to launch on 12.04
[05:25] <dr_willis> You just said you were running  "sudo add-apt-repository -r
[05:25] <dr_willis>  ppa:current_XBMC_providing_ppa"
[05:25] <dr_willis> that ppa:XXXXXXXXXXX part is wrong
[05:26] <maestrojed> dr_willis oh ok, thx
[05:26] <maestrojed> dr_willis I will try to figure that out
[05:26] <dr_willis>  ppa:team-xbmc/ppa
[05:26] <dr_willis> is what the laucnhpad site i pasted shows...
[05:26] <dr_willis> there can be other ppas out there. like for a daily build and beta versions and so forth
[05:27] <dr_willis>  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:team-xbmc/ppa
[05:27] <dr_willis> You are about to add the following PPA to your system:
[05:28] <dr_willis> or were you REMOVEING the ppa?
[05:29] <maestrojed> dr_willis I had XBMC11 installed. I want XBMC12. An upgrade would be nice, but if I have to overwrite it, that is okay.
[05:29] <maestrojed> dr_willis I tried using the repo you suggested. I got these errors http://pastebin.com/AHqvfyVG
[05:29] <dr_willis> i just installed from that exact repo. ;)
[05:30] <dr_willis> again... you seem to be REMOVEING the ppa.. thats what -r  is for..
[05:30] <dr_willis> I added the ppa...
[05:30] <maestrojed> dr_willis Sorry, gotcha, brb
[05:31] <dr_willis> you may want to use synaptic or wjatever to remove the old xbmc
[05:31] <dr_willis> i think i was using that ppa befor.. so it upgraded for me
[05:33] <dr_willis> which reminds me.. time to upgrade xbmc on my android devices
[05:33] <maestrojed> dr_willis :) Thank you
[05:34] <Tops> so dr_willis...I hear from somebody that you can help me with an Ubuntu installation problem
[05:34] <dr_willis> totally depends on the issue..
[05:34] <Tops> I'll explain everything in a separate chat window to keep things organized
[05:34] <dr_willis> i dont use win8 or uefi :) so cant help with those
[05:35] <Tops> Ok
[05:35] <dr_willis> i dont use raid or lvm or other fancy things either. ;)
[05:35] <dr_willis> perhaps thats why i rarely have issues...
[05:35] <AureliusR> where are my kernel sources by defauly?
[05:36] <jbates58> i did the fstab thing, and it didnt work. after the reeboot, it removed my entry and went back to automount. where did i go wrong?
[05:36] <AureliusR> nvm
[05:36] <melikepass23> Will the Intel Centrino Wireless-N 100 card have any issues or need manual driver instalation in Ubuntu?
[05:37] <dr_willis> removed what entry? ive never seen a fstab entry get auto-removed
[05:38] <jackthehammerman> hey guys
[05:38] <jackthehammerman> i wanted to ask you guys which pornsite is the best site ever?
[05:38] <jbates58> i entered /dev/sda /media/Odroid\040Storage\040Drive ntfs defaults 0 0   and then saved the file, and then rebooted, and its nowow removed from fstab file, and it mounted at a different locationon
[05:38] <Tops> Google
[05:39] <dr_willis> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/foreveralone  jackthehammerman
[05:39] <Tops> ^
[05:39] <melikepass23> lol
[05:39] <Tops> <3
[05:39] <dr_willis> jbates58:  it would be best to get rid of spaces in the paths/names
[05:39] <dr_willis> jbates58:  and /dev/sda is most likely WRONG..
[05:39] <Tops> dr_willis, dod you get my message?
[05:39] <jackthehammerman> dr_willis, lol Tops i am asking coz i google also displays paid results, i am asking as a fellow ubuntu user :P
[05:39] <SultansElephant> does the new ver of firefox hava a java problem
[05:39] <Tops> *did
[05:40] <SultansElephant> i have the packages described in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[05:40] <Tops> jackthehammerman: I see how it's gonna be...
[05:40] <jbates58> ok, i'll try that. now its calling it dev/sda1 will try it again. should i unmount it first?
[05:40] <dr_willis> Tops:  use the tools from Pendrivelinux web site to put the ISO file on a USB flash.. or i use  some  other tools to burn ISO files to dvd.. i cant recall the names in windows.. infrarecorder perhaps.
[05:41] <jackthehammerman> Tops, come on..
[05:41] <dr_willis> jackthehammerman:  use duckduckgo then.
[05:41] <Tops> jackthehammerman: Wut
[05:41] <jackthehammerman> come on guys some frank response, that's all i ask
[05:41] <dr_willis> jbates58:  if its not mounted.. you cant unmount it. ;)
[05:41] <jbates58> my current one has the uuid and other stuff above the mount info. should i enter that for the one im making?
[05:41] <Tops> dr_willis: Ok...but I mean...I already have a bootable DVD though...
[05:42] <dr_willis> Tops:  if the usb is not made correctly the system will not show it in the boot listing menus.
[05:42] <Tops> Ok
[05:45] <jbates58> my current one has the uuid and other stuff above the mount info. should i enter that for the one im making?
[05:45] <dr_willis> jbates58:  what? paste the exact fstab line you are using.
[05:46] <AureliusR> shoot, lunitik is gone...
[05:46] <AureliusR> has anyone ever had to upgrade ALSA manually?
[05:46] <AureliusR> I got to the last step before receiving an error... d'oh!
[05:46] <lolcat> AureliusR: as in apt-get upgrade?
[05:47] <SultansElephant> AureliusR: firmware?
[05:47] <AureliusR> no, like download the packages and configure, make, make install
[05:47] <John7> i know this is the wrong room,, but is there anyway to get x-chat show raw irc data?..
[05:47] <jbates58> pastebin.com/24rq7nk0
[05:47] <dr_willis> AureliusR:  saw a scrit[pt to do that - ages ago ;'_
[05:47] <AureliusR> yeah but the script would have the same problem I'm getting
[05:47] <dr_willis> John7:  xchat is very scriptable.. so id say yes..
[05:47] <John7> thats the thing idk what to use, im used to mirc lol
[05:47] <jbates58> thats my current one, above the mount info, it has the uuid number and some other stuff. do i need to get that info for the usb drive im trying to mount?
[05:48] <John7> and trying to help a friend i'll keep googling
[05:53] <baymont> Can anyone provide some help with the Squid proxy
[05:56] <knut_> I have an G4 Powermac and just installed Ubuntu 12.04 but cannot get to boot rightnow cause of input/output error on yaboot prompt
[05:56] <aeon-ltd> isn't there a ppc channel for ubuntu?
[05:57] <vamp774> jbates58, you are trying to mount what?  a USB drive?  or external?
[05:57] <aeon-ltd> !ppc
[05:57] <jbates58> a usb drive
[05:58] <jbates58> now is seems that my system isnt even booting after i have modified the fstab file.
[05:58] <vamp774> jbates58, if thats the case you're probably going to have to drop to the shell prompt..or rescue whatever its called
[05:59] <jbates58> i have no idea what that is
[05:59] <vamp774> ok
[05:59] <vamp774> when you boot again if you cant get in , in GRUB where you select the kernel select rescure mode
[05:59] <chunkyhead> best editor on ubuntu is _____??
[06:00] <jbates58> i dont think this has that. its a linaro port running on the odroid-x dev board
[06:00] <chunkyhead> vamp774, kernel line press e there
[06:00] <vamp774> fstab is a list of drives Linux will automatically mount upon boot
[06:01] <vamp774> if you cant boot you may have messed with the drive ubuntu sits on
[06:01] <chunkyhead> hey guys, best editor on ubuntu is _____??
[06:01] <vamp774> jbates58, There is a page here that may help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB
[06:02] <vamp774> chunkyhead, my personal favorites are nano and emacs.
[06:04] <Akiva-Mobile> I have one of those lenovo laptops with the red nub for a mouse, and am wondering if there is any way to increase the sensitivity on it? The mouse setting are already set to max, and it didnt effect anything.
[06:04] <Akiva-Mobile> chunkyhead: What kind of editor?
[06:04] <Akiva-Mobile> chunkyhead: Gedit, or I use geany for software development
[06:05] <lucas_> alguem
[06:06] <lucas_> alguem ae
[06:08] <Sachiru> Anyone here have experience with Seagate SV35 drives?
[06:09] <chunkyhead> Akiva-Mobile, for programming.
[06:09] <jatakk> Howdy
[06:09] <chunkyhead> vamp774, Akiva-Mobile how's vim?
[06:09] <Akiva-Mobile> chunkyhead: vim and emacs are for penguins with beards, not neccessarely ubuntu :P
[06:10] <Akiva-Mobile> chunkyhead: That being said, what language are you developing for?
[06:11] <Akiva-Mobile> qtcreator is recommended by the ubuntu team, but it does support HUD
[06:11] <Akiva-Mobile> doesn't*
[06:11] <Akiva-Mobile> Also, menus do not appear at the top of the program.
[06:11] <chunkyhead> Akiva-Mobile, nothing in particular, i am doing computer engineering so in general looking for a good editor.
[06:12] <vamp774> chunkyhead, I never really liked vim.  That being said Gedit is good too.  I do most things command line.  For quick edits I prefer PICO.  but Gedit is nice because you can tell it which language you are using so it knows what to highlight
[06:12] <Akiva-Mobile> chunkyhead: how important is the UI?
[06:12] <Akiva-Mobile> chunkyhead: Also, do you use HUD?
[06:13] <vamp774> With emacs long term you'll get carpal tunnel lol.  C-X X-S to save ....
[06:13] <vamp774> or C-X S
[06:13] <Akiva-Mobile> vamp774: Vim is everywhere, so that is nice if you are hopping from linux box to linux box
[06:13] <s00pcan> and with vim you don't have to lift a finger because caps locks is mapped to control
[06:14] <chunkyhead> Akiva-Mobile, i'm not a pro in cli but i love it, so still learning, gui doesn't matter much, cli will do. i dont use HUD till date i dont know what is it made for
[06:14] <Akiva-Mobile> s00pcan: and that is what sucks :P that breaks my colemak
[06:14] <vamp774> Akiva-Mobile, good point.  Gedit is all over too.
[06:14] <s00pcan> colemak?
[06:14] <chunkyhead> vamp774, vim is pretty much customizable, vim like any other editor too indents/highlights/displays line number
[06:14] <Akiva-Mobile> chunkyhead: Are you on ubuntu right now? I'll give you a quick demo of HUD
[06:15] <chunkyhead> Akiva-Mobile, yes i am
[06:15] <Akiva-Mobile> chunkyhead: Open up Gimp
[06:15] <s00pcan> wow line numbers. I remember when those used to be down in a menu
[06:15] <vamp774> chunkyhead, A lot of people prefer VIM.  It messes me up because I learned in emacs :P
[06:15] <chunkyhead> Akiva-Mobile,  done.. PS: u can use teamviewer
[06:16] <Akiva-Mobile> s00pcan: Colemak is a keyboard layout. they map backspace to capslock.
[06:16] <Akiva-Mobile> ha
[06:16] <chunkyhead> vamp774, emac the apple mac, or the editor?
[06:16] <Akiva-Mobile> chunkyhead: press alt, start typing "new"
[06:16] <vamp774> chunkyhead, the editor.  I use the emacs23-nox package
[06:17] <s00pcan> well vim doesn't really have a use for backspace either
[06:17] <chunkyhead> it does :S s00pcan
[06:17] <chunkyhead> Akiva-Mobile, done
[06:17] <chunkyhead> vamp774, never used it i dont know what you are talking about :P
[06:17] <s00pcan> it does but you ahve many other options
[06:17] <Akiva-Mobile> chunkyhead: now that you have a new file
[06:18] <Akiva-Mobile> lets try to do some strange editting.
[06:18] <chunkyhead> Akiva-Mobile, alright
[06:18] <Akiva-Mobile> chunkyhead: press alt, start typing "threshold"
[06:18] <chunkyhead> Akiva-Mobile, can i pm u? it's annoying to take names everytime
[06:18] <Akiva-Mobile> and click enter when you get it
[06:18] <Akiva-Mobile> chunkyhead: heh, well my demo is done. Basically, use hud instead of navigating menus with a mouse.
[06:19] <vamp774> chunkyhead, np.  its just another editor.  My point was just that i don't use vim because it takes me longer to get things done because Im so used to the other programs.
[06:19] <chunkyhead> Akiva-Mobile, got it what you were saying :) thanks
[06:19] <Akiva-Mobile> you get used to vim, but is funky
[06:19] <chunkyhead> vamp774, Akiva-Mobile vim is pretty easy to get used to, all u need to know is some basic commands
[06:20] <Akiva-Mobile> chunkyhead: Anyways, HUD is addicting, and it sucks when you download a app that does not work for it, like most java apps
[06:20] <dr_willis> use emacs mode in vim. ;) and vim mode in emacs...
[06:20] <chunkyhead> vamp774, Akiva-Mobile if :set ai :set nu :wq and you're done
[06:20] <Akiva-Mobile> and some qt apps as well
[06:20] <chunkyhead> dr_willis, lol
[06:20] <GlenK> hi.  so I'm trying "apt-get install openssh-server" but it's not finding that package.  what gives?  12.04 LTS
[06:20] <chunkyhead> Akiva-Mobile, for that you need to know ur menus hahah
[06:20] <dr_willis> GlenK:  use tab completion to fill in the right name..
[06:21] <chunkyhead> does anyone know of any package/client which allows me to chat on the terminal?
[06:21] <dr_willis> !info openssh-server
[06:21] <Akiva-Mobile> chunkyhead: oy. live without a mouse for awhile, and learn to love the keyboard :P
[06:21] <vamp774> chunkyhead, IRSSI
[06:21] <GlenK> dr_willis: I did "apt-cache search ssh" too and it only lists openssh-client
[06:21] <dr_willis> GlenK:  done an apt-get update lately? seems odd since its in main
[06:21] <chunkyhead> Akiva-Mobile, i don't mouse i use touchpad :P
[06:21] <chunkyhead> vamp774, let me check it out
[06:22] <dr_willis> GlenK:  apt-cache search ssh | wc -l
[06:22] <dr_willis> 286
[06:22] <Akiva-Mobile> chunkyhead: And btw, while you are young, you might as well invest in learning an alternate keyboard layout. especially good for programmers. I suggest "Colemak", but dvorak is usually the main one (its just older)
[06:22] <dr_willis> shows 286 hits here. ;)
[06:22] <chunkyhead> vamp774, not only irc for say fb/gmail etc
[06:22] <GlenK> hmm, dns issue I think
[06:23] <Akiva-Mobile> chunkyhead: My carpel tunnel syndrome went away when all my main letters went on home row. Not to mention that I have improved my typing speed by about twenty percent.
[06:23] <chunkyhead> Akiva-Mobile, alternate keyboard? damn i never bothered to read upon that. although i used to have a look at it quite often :O
[06:23] <Akiva-Mobile> I still hate numbers though >:[
[06:23] <s00pcan> how about typing accuracy?
[06:23] <chunkyhead> Akiva-Mobile, everyone does :P
[06:23] <GlenK> gah.  ubuntu.  so I'm not supposed to edit /etc/resolv.conf by hand?
[06:23] <Akiva-Mobile> s00pcan: hmm?
[06:23] <vamp774> chunkyhead, Im not sure.  There probably is one though.
[06:23] <Treverend> Hello, can anyone help me?
[06:24] <chunkyhead> vamp774, i was searching online, was able to find one for gmail, none for fb though :(
[06:24] <Akiva-Mobile> s00pcan: As far as I understand, colemak focusses on finger rolls, where as dvorak focusses on alternating fingers.
[06:24] <chunkyhead> Akiva-Mobile, let me just read up on that and get back to you :)
[06:24] <vamp774> I know of Pidgin but that isnt command line.  That does Facebook but not sure about Gmail
[06:24] <Akiva-Mobile> chunkyhead: there was an interesting one handed layout called entikeys,
[06:25] <Akiva-Mobile> but it would be a pain to get support for that. Colemak is well documented, and easy to install on every ubuntu.
[06:25] <chunkyhead> Akiva-Mobile, whenever i talk to people like you, i realise that there's so much info out there for me to explore :) makes me want to keep going thank you guys :) vamp774
[06:25] <Treverend> My Additional Drivers are giving me two different ones for my graphics card, what one do I choose? (version 173-updates) or (version current-updates)
[06:26] <Akiva-Mobile> vamp774: isnt gmail just jabber?
[06:26] <vamp774> Akiva-Mobile, I saw Jabber in the list of applications it supports but I don't use gmail chat so I can't say
[06:27] <Akiva-Mobile> chunkyhead: I am glad that I can sometimes help people. Usually its me asking the questions, and level 4 users like dr_willis bothering to answer.
[06:27] <chunkyhead> that happens to me in college haha Akiva-Mobile :P
[06:27] <vamp774> chunkyhead, I like to help people because I received a lot of help .
[06:27] <Akiva-Mobile> vamp774: unless they changed it, I am almost certain they use jabber.
[06:27] <vmj> window 1
[06:27] <chunkyhead> vamp774, yeah same here :)
[06:28] <chunkyhead> now that i'm so used to qwerty layout looking at colemak is giving me goosebumps Akiva-Mobile
[06:28] <Akiva-Mobile> vamp774: Take that altruism critics!
[06:28] <dr_willis> getting where i just know the old-skool answers these days
[06:28] <vamp774> chunkyhead, I think I had windows on any of my computers for like a year.  Then I was like...wait...nah...linux...ever since all my machines run a flavor of linux
[06:28] <chunkyhead> Akiva-Mobile, also i'd need a new keyboard for that i can't remember the key positions otherwise :O
[06:28] <dr_willis> I rember the old apple2-c that had a dovrak button on it :) really messed people up
[06:28] <Akiva-Mobile> chunkyhead: it takes about a month. Hint; don't change the keys on your keyboard; it will force you to learn how to touch type.
[06:29] <chunkyhead> chunkyhead, i use windows just because i need to run bluestacks for whatsapp -_- and office that's it
[06:29] <Akiva-Mobile> dr_willis: What? No way!
[06:29] <vamp774> Akiva-Mobile, Might be.  I remember thinking what the heck is a jabber
[06:29] <chunkyhead> Akiva-Mobile, and how easy it is to go back to qwerty after that?
[06:29] <dr_willis> Akiva-Mobile:  it was the 'portable' apple. i had one from a junk sale years ago..  ;)
[06:29] <Akiva-Mobile> I remember when the insert key was my arch nemisis.
[06:30] <chunkyhead> Akiva-Mobile, what do u mean by touch type?
[06:30] <Akiva-Mobile> chunkyhead: You always retain it, but for me now, I suffer when I use other peoples computers.
[06:30] <Akiva-Mobile> its like a weird boolean switch in your head though
[06:30] <vamp774> chunkyhead, one of my friends has been on Linux for eternity and it makes me feel the same way.  I get messed up on Windows computers
[06:31] <Akiva-Mobile> very strange when you try to switch back and forth.
[06:31] <Treverend> Soooo, why do so many people hate Unity? :O
[06:31] <vamp774> chunkyhead, I really do learn something everyday in Linux
[06:31] <Jordan_U> !ot
[06:31] <AureliusR> Treverend: because KDE is better
[06:31] <Akiva-Mobile> chunkyhead: touchtype means, well you feel around to understand where the keys are, rather than looking, and that when you click the keys, you are basically very lightly tapping, rather than pecking at it.
[06:32] <dr_willis> Treverend:  people complain no matter what..
[06:32] <AureliusR> anyway, I'm getting somewhere with my problem
[06:32] <Treverend> What is KDE?  I heard some people saying Mint Debian is the best.
[06:32] <Akiva-Mobile> Treverend: Most people come around, or I can convince them to come around.
[06:32] <dr_willis> Treverend:  there is no 'best'
[06:32] <AureliusR> aplay -l shows all the sound devices on my system, finally
[06:32] <AureliusR> and aplay -L even shows SPDIF
[06:32] <dr_willis> Treverend:  if you want to try out kde - its easy to install on your ubuntu box.
[06:33] <chunkyhead> vamp774, i learn alot everyday
[06:33] <Akiva-Mobile> Treverend: KDE focusses on customizability and flexibility.
[06:33] <hualet> vamp774, about what?
[06:33] <Akiva-Mobile> gnome focusses on simplicity and straightforwardness
[06:33] <Treverend> Not asking what is best really. Can you explain what KDE is though? Is it just a shell like Unity?
[06:33] <dr_willis> KDE has some very odd - quirks. and parts ive never figured out. ;)
[06:33] <dr_willis> KDE is a desktop envirpment.
[06:33] <AureliusR> Treverend: type into a terminal, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:33] <Akiva-Mobile> unity focusses on touch, and a unified interface across platforms.
[06:33] <AureliusR> yeah
[06:33] <dr_willis> Unity is a shell on top of gnome3
[06:33] <chunkyhead> Akiva-Mobile, oh i've been doing it since forever didn't know what it was called. illiterate me :\
[06:34] <Akiva-Mobile> dr_willis: What? I never knew that... Its getting a qt rewrite anyways though.
[06:34] <Treverend> Thought Kubuntu was a seperate Linux OS from Ubuntu? :O
[06:34] <dr_willis> Akiva-Mobile:  aparently.. i will wait and see
[06:34] <dr_willis> Treverend:  Kubuntu is ubuntu that installs kde by default
[06:34] <AureliusR> it is, but the shell package has the same name
[06:34] <dr_willis> Treverend:  the kubuntu-package installs the same kde setup on whatever ubuntu install you have
[06:34] <Akiva-Mobile> dr_willis: ubuntu usually lives up to their promise. they have a great track record .
[06:34] <dr_willis> !kubuntu-desktop
[06:34] <chunkyhead> btw has anyone ever managed to install archlinux? i mean i tried on a vm never succeeded
[06:35] <Jordan_U> !ot | chunkyhead
[06:35] <dr_willis> Akiva-Mobile:  i recall the stuff from  the past thats failed.. like the FailsafeX  and other little things
[06:35] <Akiva-Mobile> Treverend: You are right. Ubuntu and Kubuntu are forks of Debian.
[06:35] <AureliusR> chunkyhead: funny you should mention, I installed it earlier today
[06:35] <Treverend> I'm confused.. LOL!! I'm such a noob when it comes to Linux. Did I go wrong with choosing Ubuntu? :O
[06:35] <Akiva-Mobile> Kubuntu is for ubuntu lovers who like to run kde.
[06:35] <AureliusR> Treverend: not at all
[06:35] <chunkyhead> Treverend, ubuntu is for noobs lol
[06:35] <AureliusR> Treverend: it takes a while for you to find out what you like
[06:35] <dr_willis> Treverend:  since you dont even know what you need..  use ubuntu and see if it does what you need.
[06:35] <chunkyhead> Treverend, i mean noobs should start with ubuntu. no offense
[06:36] <Ben64> chunkyhead: feel free to leave this channel then
[06:36] <Akiva-Mobile> dr_willis: Never been late on a release. Fedora is awful for things like that.
[06:36] <dr_willis> Akiva-Mobile:  i seem to recall one delay.. but  theres some that would argue that many of the releases Should have been delayed..
[06:36] <Treverend> Kinda wanna try Mint too, I guess it's more popular than Ubuntu now according to distrowatch.
[06:36] <chunkyhead> Ben64, dude chill what i meant to say is ubuntu is the most user friendly and has huge community support hence suitable for noobs
[06:36] <chunkyhead> Akiva-Mobile, agreed
[06:37] <dr_willis> Treverend:  the disrto watch site shows hits per day.. its not showing any real information about popularity
[06:37] <jinja> mortal kombaaaattt!!!!!
[06:37] <Akiva-Mobile> Treverend: distrowatch is misleading
[06:37] <chunkyhead> AureliusR, i need to learn alot before i can actually manage to start
[06:37] <rexwin_> ubuntu application management is the easiest :-)
[06:37] <dr_willis> Treverend:  there was a huge amount of blog posts about that a year or so ago
[06:37] <Akiva-Mobile> Treverend: I say the best indicator is to install pidgin, and do a /list
[06:37] <chunkyhead> ubuntu has tons of apps, that's what i really like about it
[06:37] <Akiva-Mobile> and see what irc channels on freenode are the most populated.
[06:38] <Treverend> When you guys tell me to install stuff you have to tell me what it does and what to look for too or I'll install it and not even know what to do with it or what it does. xD
[06:38] <dr_willis> Treverend:  thats why you read up on things..
[06:38] <chunkyhead> oh btw guys i created a conky, somehow it fails to be able to record CPU temp, any help on that?
[06:38] <Jordan_U> dr_willis: Akiva-Mobile: chunkyhead: jinja: Everyone Else: This channel is for Ubuntu support only, please take offtopic discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[06:38] <dr_willis> chunkyhead:  depends on how its reading the temps. You may need the lm-sensors package
[06:38] <rexwin_> Treverend, ubuntu https://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[06:38] <Treverend> Have been Willis. Can't find all my answers though, atleast not straightforward, that's why I came here.
[06:39] <dr_willis> !sensors
[06:39] <jinja> why can i not connect to dalnet or undernet in xchat??????
[06:39] <dr_willis> jinja:  ask in #xchat perhaps
[06:39] <chunkyhead> dr_willis, i have it installed
[06:39] <jinja> right...
[06:39] <dr_willis> jinja:  just a guess - you are doing it wrong. or the specific server is down/blocking you
[06:40] <Treverend> Are you all Ubuntu users? I kinda assume you are.
[06:40] <dr_willis> chunkyhead:  theres differnt methods of reading  the temps. could be your hardwares not totally supported
[06:40] <chunkyhead> Treverend, yeah more or less
[06:40] <dr_willis> chunkyhead:  you did run the selsors-detect script?
[06:40] <chunkyhead> dr_willis, how to check that. my machine's just 1 year old
[06:40] <jinja> oh no!!!! whyyyyy???? i've been a good boy!!!!
[06:40] <dr_willis> sensors-detect
[06:40] <Treverend> For the person who told me to download Pidgin, why should I download a messaging software? xd
[06:40] <kevdog> not all of us Ubuntu users ;0
[06:40] <Treverend> xD
[06:41] <chunkyhead> dr_willis, nope, what's it?
[06:41] <dr_willis> chunkyhead:  it sets  up your sensors.. see the !sensors factoid urls
[06:41] <vamp774> Treverend, I run Debian
[06:41] <Treverend> I heard Unity haters say they don't like it because it's like a tablet OS... I think they are just too used to Windows.
[06:41] <kevdog> running arch as I speak
[06:41] <kevdog> or type
[06:42] <Treverend> Vamp, is debian standalone OS? Can you explain what Mint Debian is?
[06:42] <Treverend> a standalone*
[06:42] <dr_willis> Treverend:  non support chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[06:42] <Jordan_U> Treverend: Please take offtopic discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic. This is your last warning.
[06:43] <Treverend> Alright. See ya guys. Gonna head over there.
[06:43] <Akiva-Mobile> Treverend: its just got a unique command. I love unity and I suggest using it. According to freenode, ubuntu is the most populated channel, followed by arch, followed by debian, followed by gentoo, followed by android.
[06:43] <dr_willis> you can be in more then  1 channel at a time. ;)
[06:46] <chunkyhead> dr_willis, i ran sudo sensors-detect selected y for all
[06:47] <chunkyhead> ran  service module-init-tools start dr_willis and it says "start: Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.83" (uid=1000 pid=17490 comm="start module-init-tools ") interface="com.ubuntu.Upstart0_6.Job" member="Start" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination="com.ubuntu.Upstart" (uid=0 pid=1 comm="/sbin/init")"
[06:48] <chunkyhead> running the sensor command just gives me the core temp of 2 CPU (where as i have 4 CPUs) dr_willis
[06:50] <chunkyhead> anyone there? :S
[06:51] <chunkyhead> -_________________-
[06:52] <AureliusR> OMG I FIXED IT!!!!!
[06:52] <AureliusR> like 4 hours later!!!
[06:52] <AureliusR> go me!!
[06:52] <jatakk> Fixed what?
[06:53] <rexwin_> hunkyhead, paste your /etc/modules
[06:53] <AureliusR> and in the process learned pretty much all there is to learn about ALSA and sound in ubuntu
[06:53] <AureliusR> my audio
[06:53] <jatakk> Please don't mention audio problems, I'll have flashbacks :P
[06:53] <AureliusR> lol
[06:54] <AureliusR> I feel you.
[06:54] <AureliusR> man ALSA is actually extremely powerful
[06:54] <chunkyhead> rexwin_, # /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time.
[06:54] <chunkyhead> #
[06:54] <chunkyhead> # This file contains the names of kernel modules that should be loaded
[06:54] <chunkyhead> # at boot time, one per line. Lines beginning with "#" are ignored.
[06:54] <chunkyhead> lp
[06:54] <chunkyhead> # Generated by sensors-detect on Sun Mar 17 12:14:01 2013
[06:54] <FloodBot1> chunkyhead: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:54] <AureliusR> Linux > Windows every single time I try and prove otherwise
[06:55] <dr_willis> chunkyhead:  or you got a single quad core processor with just 2 sensors...
[06:55] <dr_willis> one i recall under the cpu and one perhaps built into the cpu
[06:56] <chunkyhead> dr_willis, i5 480m contains 4 cores
[06:56] <dr_willis> chunkyhead:  that dosent mean it has 4 differnt cpus...
[06:57] <dr_willis> its a single cpu with 4 cores
[06:57] <chunkyhead> dr_willis, that's what i said 4 cored
[06:58] <chunkyhead> cores*
[06:58] <c|oneman> okay, I accidentally removed all the packages that were ready to update, instead of updating, in aptitude
[06:58] <dr_willis> you seem to be expecting 4 temperature readings..
[06:58] <c|oneman> do I try to undo, or do I reimage :P
[06:58] <chunkyhead> dr_willis, yeah because 4 different cores should have diff temps right?
[06:59] <dr_willis> chunkyhead:  not really
[06:59] <dr_willis> it just a sensor on the cpu chip
[06:59] <chunkyhead> dr_willis, how is it displaying 2 diff temps then?
[06:59] <dr_willis> one i recall under the cpu and one perhaps built into the cpu
[06:59] <dr_willis> time to ask in #hardware i imagine
[06:59] <AureliusR> or one for the northbridge
[07:00] <AureliusR> or something.
[07:00] <dr_willis> are you really worried about overheating?
[07:00] <chunkyhead> dr_willis, i have thermal shutdowns i keep a table fan beside my laptop lol. i guess that means yes XD
[07:01] <dr_willis> may be time to verify the fans are working.. and not full of dust
[07:01] <AureliusR> chunkyhead: get a cooling pad for your laptop from the nearest computer show
[07:01] <rexwin_> fellas, what is the next big thing in IT?
[07:02] <chunkyhead> AureliusR, no point having a laptop then. this only happens when i play games, as of now i am not. one of my reasons to shift to ubuntu was that i wanted to stop playing games :\
[07:03] <aeon-ltd> rexwin_: giant pokemon
[07:03] <jatakk> rexwin_: What kind of question is that?
[07:03] <Tops> Is it possible to install Ubuntu on a Raspberry Pi?
[07:03] <chunkyhead> back
[07:03] <dr_willis> Tops:  not that i am aware of
[07:03] <jatakk> Tops: I don't think so
[07:04] <jatakk> Tops: There's raspbian though
[07:04] <Tops> jatakk: A who what now?
[07:04] <Rokkross> Tops: Why do you want ubuntu on the pi?
[07:04] <jatakk> Tops: Debian for the Raspberry pi
[07:04] <chunkyhead> dr_willis, they do work properly i can hear them when i play
[07:04] <Rokkross> That doesn't really make sense.
[07:04] <Tops> Rokkross: I was curious
[07:04] <aeon-ltd> Tops: raspian is debian but recompiled for the arm cpu in the rpi
[07:04] <Rokkross> The whole point is to have something that can run on low-end hardware :P
[07:04] <Tops> aen-ltd: Oh...ok
[07:04] <Tops> ^fail typo
[07:05] <aeon-ltd> Tops: use tab :)
[07:05] <dr_willis> Ubuntu arm support needs arm 6. pi is an Arm 5 -  i belive
[07:05] <dr_willis> or am i off by a #
[07:05] <Tops> so...how come ubuntu doesn't work on the Pi?
[07:05] <Tops> doesnt the Pi meet the system requirements?
[07:06] <dr_willis> Ubuntu arm support needs arm 6. pi is an Arm 5 -  i belive.......
[07:06] <dr_willis> so thats a NO..
[07:06] <Tops> Ooooooh....ok
[07:06] <dr_willis> it does not have the right cpu
[07:06] <dr_willis> ;)
[07:06] <Tops> Ok
[07:06] <Tops> Thanks
[07:06] <dr_willis> rasbian works very well on the Pi
[07:06] <Tops> I'll keep that in mind
[07:06] <dr_willis> hopefully an accelerated X server for it will be out soon.
[07:06] <aeon-ltd> according to wikipedia it is armv6
[07:07] <dr_willis> its 6 and 7 then. ;)
[07:07] <chunkyhead> dr_willis, how to get temp from sensros on conky pl help
[07:07] <dr_willis> i thought i was off by a 1
[07:08] <dr_willis> chunkyhead:  try some other conky configs..  if  the sensors command dosent show the info.. then conky isent going to be able to get the info either i imagine
[07:08] <tyyhzh> i+
[07:08] <tyyhzh> hello
[07:08] <chunkyhead> dr_willis, when i type sensors on terminal it shows me temp or core0 and temp of core2 :S wth
[07:09] <dr_willis> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1979126  "Solved - Conky Sensors"
[07:09] <tyyhzh> hello
[07:10] <jdolitsky> hi
[07:10] <killer> hey
[07:10] <killer> hey
[07:10] <dr_willis> http://conky.pitstop.free.fr/wiki/index.php5?title=Using_Sensors_%28en%29     Using Sensors in Conky...
[07:10] <killer> what package will contain python module pyxhook
[07:10] <chunkyhead> dr_willis, yeah i got that, i'm asking where did core1 go :S
[07:10] <dr_willis> chunkyhead:  no idea. Im not a hardware guy
[07:11] <dr_willis> could be it dosent exist on that hardware
[07:11] <chunkyhead> but then it won't be core 2 right
[07:12] <aeon-ltd> chunkyhead: what cpu is this?
[07:12] <dr_willis> chunkyhead:  or its just missnumbereds....
[07:12] <dr_willis> the sensors stuff may know about dozens of sensors that may or may not exist
[07:12] <dr_willis> on specific hardware
[07:12] <chunkyhead> dr_willis, that's highly unlikely
[07:12] <chunkyhead> dr_willis, i mean the missnumbered thing
[07:13] <dr_willis> chunkyhead:  ive seen the lm-sensors stuff show all sorts of very very UNLIKELY numbers in the past...
[07:13] <dr_willis> like showung my cpu temp being -299C one day
[07:13] <killer> hey/quit
[07:13] <dr_willis> Some intel cpus may have a addational sensor thats not on all hardware.. seems likely to me.
[07:16] <c|oneman> what are source repos
[07:17] <c|oneman> more up to date, or different packages?
[07:17] <dr_willis> look in /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:17] <dr_willis> they are the repos -for the source code packages
[07:17] <c|oneman> what does that mean in terms of installing packages
[07:17] <TakeItEZ> c|oneman: different packages, sourcecode even
[07:18] <dr_willis> er...  i think we are talking about differnt things here
[07:18] <c|oneman> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise main restricted universe multiverse
[07:18] <dr_willis> those are SOURCE code for the binary packages
[07:18] <dr_willis> not newer, not differnt.. the source code - IF you wanted to compile your own binaries
[07:19] <c|oneman> would I ever want the source code if I'm not a developper?
[07:19] <dr_willis> and not needed by most users
[07:19] <dr_willis> thats why they are commented out by default. :) correct
[07:19] <c|oneman> I thought it might be newer untested packages that you "install from source"
[07:19] <dr_willis> theres no such thing in ubuntu that ive seen
[07:20] <dr_willis> !backports
[07:20] <dr_willis> backports is the closest thing to 'newer untested' or use PPAS
[07:20] <c|oneman> k.
[07:20] <dr_willis> and even then. you dont compile from source for those.
[07:20] <tokern3> hey
[07:20] <tokern3> what is the best graphical download manager in linux?
[07:21] <TakeItEZ> !best | tokern3
[07:21] <dr_willis> what sort of download are you manageing
[07:22] <c|oneman> people don't use those anymore
[07:24] <dr_willis> i never do ;) other then wget
[07:25] <tokern3> i need a download manager which split file into for example 8 parts and download them parallel so the speed of download increase i also want it to have resume capability
[07:26] <codygman> I see that ubuntu offers some emacs packages via apt. How would you add those into emacs load path though?
[07:26] <codygman> for instance, go-mode
[07:26] <dr_willis> hmm.. if the packages are in the package manager. it should auto do all that i would think
[07:27] <aeon-ltd> tokern3: anything with split + compression capability and torrent?
[07:27] <codygman> dr_willis: I'll see I guess, but I don't think it does.
[07:27] <codygman> dr_willis: appears to add here: /usr/share/emacs24/site-lisp/golang-mode/go-mode.elc
[07:27] <codygman> I think I got my answer
[07:27] <dr_willis> that would be the default site-lisp dir isent it?  ;)
[07:27] <dr_willis> i havent used emacs in 6+ yrs
[07:28] <codygman> dr_willis: I'm not sure, I'm just trying out emacs. I'm actually a vim user.
[07:29] <codygman> dr_willis: Seems you were right :D
[07:32] <tokern3> aeon-ltd: something like IDM (internet download manager ) in windows
[07:33] <GentSir> tokern3, DownloadThemAll firefox plugin
[07:33] <tokern3> i use chrome
[07:33] <tokern3> :p
[07:34] <GentSir> Well, it's a great multiplatform segmented downloader.
[07:34] <dr_willis> sounds like you need to looka t your browser extensions site...
[07:35] <tokern3> idm had a very good capability and that was this: it automatically downloaded video or audio in a web page but it asked me before it download it. so for example in youtube i had no problem ;)
[07:35] <tokern3> downloadthemall is like this?
[07:35] <dr_willis> err..  video download tools are not what i would call 'download managers' in the normal sence
[07:35] <dusxmt> Does anyone know where the apt package list is stored?
[07:35] <OerHeks> tokern3, i use flareget >> http://sourceforge.net/projects/flareget/
[07:36] <bazhang> dusxmt, /etc/apt/
[07:36] <dr_willis> dusxmt:  /etc/apt/sources.list/  or in /var/ if you mean its cache
[07:36] <TakeItEZ> dusxmt: /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin
[07:37] <dr_willis> messing with files in /var/cahe/apt/ can be.. bad. ;)
[07:37] <dr_willis> dont just delete them..
[07:38] <TakeItEZ> "just deleting" any file outside your $HOME "can be ...bad"
[07:38] <dusxmt> I just need to find the file that apt stores it's package list (the list that gets updated with apt-get update).
[07:39] <z3nopC0d3r> I want to theme for ubuntu ?
[07:39] <z3nopC0d3r> a*
[07:40] <bazhang> thats in /etc/apt/ dusxmt
[07:40] <bazhang> !themes | z3nopC0d3r
[07:40] <dr_willis> z3nopC0d3r:  thers themes in the repos and alternative repos/ppas with more themes.. the webupd8 blog site has a nice collection
[07:40] <TakeItEZ>  /etc/apt holds repo lists, not package lists. those are in /var/cache/apt
[07:40] <dusxmt> z3nopC0d3r: All i find in /etc/apt is mirror lists and keys lists
[07:41] <tokern3> OerHeks: does it support https? or socks?
[07:42] <chunkyhead> dr_willis, the output of the temp i am getting in 'F any way to convert it into 'C?
[07:42] <tokern3> OerHeks: well i checked this
[07:42] <chunkyhead> dr_willis, apart from using a formula
[07:42] <dr_willis> chunkyhead:  no idea. You could always check the commands options...
[07:43] <chunkyhead> dr_willis,  when i run sensors it gives me the temp is 'C when i use that in conky it gives me in 'F -__- somehow
[07:43] <jbates58> ok, well editing the fstab was an epic fail. it resulted in a multiple hour repair inorder to ge tmy system to boot. so, another suggestion? lol
[07:43] <OerHeks> tokern3, i am not sure, how do i tell ?
[07:43] <TakeItEZ> chunkyhead: do you run "sensors -f"? it should give deg C by default unless "-f" is used
[07:44] <stroodlepup> who here is using
[07:44] <stroodlepup> wine?
[07:44] <tokern3> OerHeks: as i said i checked it. it seems it is too similar to IDM :)
[07:44] <OerHeks> nice
[07:44] <tokern3> OerHeks: tanx
[07:44] <OerHeks> have fun :-D
[07:45] <helmut_> hi
[07:46] <chunkyhead> TakeItEZ, oh i thought -c was for celcius lol thanks
[07:46] <aeon-ltd> chunkyhead: did you solve the missing core 1?
[07:47] <TakeItEZ> chunkyhead: read "man sensors"
[07:47] <dr_willis> it was under the couch
[07:47] <dusxmt> found them, they were in /var/lib/apt, ty for help
[07:48] <aeon-ltd> if your cpu is the i5 480m, then the reason is that that there are 2 cores 4 threads, core is reserved for thread 2, but really thread 1+2 both belong to one physical core. therefore there is only one temp
[07:48] <aeon-ltd> core1*
[07:48] <aeon-ltd> in htop it will show 4 cores/threads
[07:49] <chunkyhead> aeon-ltd, i asked people on hardware they say i5 480m for laptop has only 2 sensors and 2 dual cores hence only 2 temps are there. the OS takes the virtual cpu as well into consideration hence the core1 is missing, (eg: core0 core1(v) core2 core3(v)) note: v-virtual core0 and core2 will have the sensors and hence that output on the screen
[07:50] <chunkyhead> aeon-ltd, yeah same thing
[07:50] <chunkyhead> aeon-ltd, thanks anyways :)
[07:52] <z3nopC0d3r> I downloaded the skin with .rmskin , now what should i do ?
[07:52] <chunkyhead> z3nopC0d3r, wear it :P
[07:52] <dr_willis> z3nopC0d3r:  skin for what?
[07:52] <z3nopC0d3r> For ubunut ?
[07:52] <z3nopC0d3r> ubuntu*
[07:53] <dr_willis> No such thing that i know of
[07:53] <z3nopC0d3r> Do i need to extract it or something like that ?
[07:53] <dr_willis> Ubuntu uses gnome3, so uses gnome shell themes
[07:53] <aeon-ltd> rmskin is for rainmeter ( a win application) apparently
[07:53] <z3nopC0d3r> http://dem-king77.deviantart.com/art/EditedBAGEL-2-0-358144868
[07:53] <z3nopC0d3r> This is the website
[07:54] <aeon-ltd> look at the left hand corner
[07:55] <z3nopC0d3r> I donwloading themes for windows , my bad :P
[07:57] <dr_willis>  look at the webupd8 blog site for nice theme info
[07:58] <z3nopC0d3r> http://gnome-look.org
[07:58] <dr_willis> and that site will most likely confuise you...
[07:58] <dr_willis> unless they have cleaned it up lately
[08:00] <dr_willis> bbl
[08:01] <rjeletto> yo
[08:01] <rjeletto> are folks awake
[08:01] <rjeletto> i could use a little help
[08:01] <rjeletto> would be greatly appreciated :)
[08:01] <z3nopC0d3r> I'm newbie with linux...ubuntu accepts only GNOME shell themes ?
[08:02] <c|oneman> on ubuntu server, do I have to install ubuntu-desktop if I want gnome? I already installed gnome3
[08:05] <chunkyhead> TakeItEZ, dude i'm running this and somehow the 'C isn't getting displayed @: ${color1}${font Ubuntu:style=Bold:size=9}${color1}${exec sensors | grep 'Core 0' | cut -c14-20}°C${color}${font}
[08:06] <chunkyhead> hey guys  i'm running this and somehow the 'C isn't getting displayed @: ${color1}${font Ubuntu:style=Bold:size=9}${color1}${exec sensors | grep 'Core 0' | cut -c14-20}°C${color}${font}
[08:06] <chunkyhead> i'm running that in conky
[08:08] <HappyMonk> how to hack a server ?
[08:09] <HappyMonk> ;)
[08:09] <chunkyhead> HappyMonk, use an axe
[08:09] <trijntje> !ops HappyMonk
[08:09] <chunkyhead> !ops chunkyhead
[08:09] <HappyMonk> ??
[08:10] <z3nopC0d3r> HappyMonk, get IP address of the server :P
[08:11] <trijntje> !ops
[08:11] <HappyMonk> z3nopC0d3r,  Hmm yes  ! I need that first.
[08:11] <TakeItEZ> stop feeding the troll please
[08:11] <z3nopC0d3r> HappyMonk, look at ports :P
[08:11] <z3nopC0d3r> lulz
[08:12] <chunkyhead> TakeItEZ, dude  i'm running this and somehow the 'C isn't getting displayed @: ${color1}${font Ubuntu:style=Bold:size=9}${color1}${exec sensors | grep 'Core 0' | cut -c14-20}°C${color}${font}
[08:12] <HappyMonk> (0_o);
[08:13] <TakeItEZ> chunkyhead: i don't use conky, no idea about the syntax. if you remove the "°", does it display the "C" then?
[08:14] <HappyMonk> how about using core1 ? no space within ?
[08:14] <chunkyhead> no, it was working before i started editing it can't seem to figure the problem
[08:14] <z3nopC0d3r> HappyMonk, Are you serious about it :P
[08:15] <c|oneman> how do I login with gnome if I have both unity and gnome installed?
[08:15] <HappyMonk> Well yes. Some what ;) :D I want to hack my ISPs server.
[08:15] <c|oneman> I don't have access to the loginscree with nxclient
[08:15] <bazhang> HappyMonk, stop now
[08:15] <trijntje> HappyMonk: go away
[08:15] <br3ntor> Hello World!
[08:15] <chunkyhead> c|oneman, there's an option hover ur mouse over the ubutu logo when u get logn screen
[08:16] <c|oneman> yeah I don't have the login screen, I can't get it with NXclient
[08:16] <c|oneman> should I install VNC or something?
[08:16] <HappyMonk> bazhang, gd advice, I was joking, Do you guys really think it thats easy ? I ask here and just learn in secs how to hack ?>! FOOo
[08:16] <TakeItEZ> chunkyhead: try "sensors|awk '/Core 0/ {print $3}' "
[08:16] <paul_> join
[08:17] <paul_> join hardware
[08:17] <paul_> join #hardware
[08:17] <trijntje> paul_: /join #hardware ;)
[08:17] <HappyMonk> Any one using Burg ?
[08:17] <paul_> thank you trijnje
[08:17] <HappyMonk> I cant boot into windows now.
[08:17] <chunkyhead> TakeItEZ, it's just printing 'C, no temp lol
[08:18] <TakeItEZ> chunkyhead: conky seem to have problems with the ° symbol, maybe charset issue?
[08:18] <deung> is it a problem not to boot windows? i think its a chance
[08:18] <chunkyhead> TakeItEZ, no no it's displaying the  ° it just stopped displaying the tem
[08:19] <chunkyhead> temp
[08:19] <deung> :)
[08:19] <tokern3> deung: i'm agree
[08:19] <rjeletto> Hey all, I installed a bunch of JACK and ALSA packages today because I was trying to run Ardour 3.0   -  audio worked fine after installs, but when I tried to run Ardour, it didn't work ("You must select audio device") and now I have NO SOUND
[08:20] <rjeletto> how the f#$% do I get my sound back
[08:20] <rjeletto> Is there a way to reset my audio drivers or something
[08:22] <deung> i had a problem with my graphic driver. i downloaded it from the amd site and folow an instalation guide vrom the web
[08:22] <deung> perhabs you can do the same
[08:22] <keith_> new to linux how do you get the bar at top of screen back on ubuntu studio
[08:23] <deung> but i dont know what you must do exactly
[08:23] <rjeletto> i'll see if anything analagous works deung, thanks
[08:24] <rjeletto> i'm kinda steamed tho, it seamed like something about launching ardour triggered it but ardour IRC is dead at this time of day
[08:24] <deung> i hope it works. but i dont know much about the audio system of ubuntu
[08:24] <Tester1323> Block me !
[08:24] <Tester1323> Huh !
[08:25] <Tester1323> Im HappyMONK
[08:25] <chunkyhead> hi happymonk
[08:25]  * redtape-renegade lets everyone know to have a Brilliant St. Patricks Day !  :D
[08:27] <Tester1323> what does that mean ?
[08:28] <Tester1323> These IRCs works strangely.
[08:30] <Tester1323> !quit
[08:30] <rjeletto> im out, peace
[08:30] <Tester1323> who needs u ?
[08:31] <redtape-renegade> Tester1323, your testing the patience of volunteers here :S
[08:31] <Tester1323> yes
[08:31] <Tester1323> ;)
[08:31] <Tester1323> :P
[08:32] <Darth> Can someone help me?
[08:32] <nominalC> Having some trouble with Ubuntu 12.10. It boots up to a blank screen with nothing but a cursor at times.
[08:32] <auronandace> Darth: hard to tell without knowing your issue
[08:33] <nominalC> it doesn't happen always though.
[08:33] <redtape-renegade> Tester1323, Try ,: http://goo.gl/9hJJs ,.. I'll talk to about it on #ubuntu-ie #channel. Peace out.
[08:34] <Darth> I've been trying to install Ubuntu for an hour. It installed and everything, but when it comes to copying the files, my computer gets about 3/4 completed and then freezes. Same spot every time.
[08:35] <redtape-renegade> Are you using Unetbootin Darth ?
[08:35] <Darth> I'm using Wubi to install Ubuntu, I'm unsure of what Unetbootin is
[08:36] <redtape-renegade> Darth, https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&sqi=2&ved=0CDEQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Funetbootin.sourceforge.net%2F&ei=cIBFUdetC5Ko0AWqsIAY&usg=AFQjCNFG2iJy14ueI6PKA0HBkn1cP-KoBg&bvm=bv.43828540,d.d2k
[08:36] <Jordan_U> Darth: I would recommend against using Wubi. Try installing Ubuntu normally (By booting from an Ubuntu DVD/USB and running the installer).
[08:36] <poee> What is the most secure way to encrypt a file to send to someone else?
[08:37] <redtape-renegade> Darth, ,   :: or http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[08:37] <TakeItEZ> poee: pgp
[08:37] <Darth> Alright, thank you. I'll try it and if I have a problem, I'll come back!
[08:38] <redtape-renegade> Darth, dont change the reserve file amount bar.
[08:38] <redtape-renegade> leave it at zero.
[08:38] <cristian_c> 09:35:38 -- CTCP VERSION received from sattfidobnwci
[08:38] <Darth> Alright, gotcha
[08:38] <poee> TakeItEZ, any easy implementation of pgp on ubuntu  I can use?
[08:39] <nominalC> so, has no one heard of the problem I described earlier? :O
[08:39] <TakeItEZ> !info gnupg | poee
[08:39] <khl> hai
[08:40] <poee> oooh thanks TakeItEZ
[08:40] <redtape-renegade> !topic
[08:40] <zetheroo> I have this directory named "Kids' Movies" and I want to rename it to "Kids_Movies" ... what's the command to do that?
[08:40] <khl> hai pl tell me how to access webserver installed in virtual guest ubuntu
[08:42] <khl> anybody pl tell me how to access webserver installed in virtual guest ubuntu
[08:42] <khl> it is not accessible outside localhost
[08:43] <OerHeks> !nomodeset | nominalC
[08:43] <nominalC> Yeah, nomodset works, but at times that too doesn't.
[08:43] <nominalC> this is running on integrated graphics OerHeks
[08:44] <OerHeks> nominalC, what GPU? lspci | grep -i VGA
[08:46] <poee> TakeItEZ, what is the best algorithm? DSA? RSA and RSA or RSA?
[08:46] <TakeItEZ> zetheroo: mv --  "Kids' Movies" Kids_Movies
[08:46] <paul_> hi
[08:47] <zetheroo> TakeItEZ: tab completion worked after I did "mv Kids\' <tab>"  ;)
[08:47] <nominalC> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5621687/
[08:47] <TakeItEZ> poee: i'd go with rsa
[08:48] <z3nopC0d3r> poee, RSA !
[08:48] <nominalC> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5621687/ OerHeks (sorry for the delay, had to get this to boot up)
[08:49] <z3nopC0d3r> what is use "pipe"  or "|" ?
[08:50] <dr_willis>  the | character does specal stuff in bash
[08:50] <OerHeks>  When you need the output from command 1 for the input into command 2, then you would use pipe character '|"
[08:50] <deung>  i known "|" as piping. so what is the differenc?
[08:50] <nominalC> output redirection
[08:51] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommandlineHowto#Pipe
[08:51] <OerHeks> so you have a double GPu ? optimus maybe?
[08:52] <Tester10203> http://www.linfo.org/pipes.html
[08:52] <nominalC> OerHeks: Let me look up the specs for this laptop. It's from work & I got it just yesterday, so I'm not very sure.
[08:53] <nominalC> It's a ThinkPad Edge E430 if that helps
[08:53] <Tester10203> Can you run Jdownloader on OpenJRE ?
[08:53] <redtape-renegade> Tester10203, Sorry I missed you on #ubuntu-ie .. I'm there now .. log back on and I talk to you there !
[08:54] <z3nopC0d3r> thanks guys :)
[08:54] <Tester10203> what is ubuntu-ie for ?
[08:55] <redtape-renegade> Tester10203, It's the IRL #channel. Happy St. Pat's Day \o/
[08:55] <nominalC> OerHeks: Nope, only ships with integrated graphics. So no other GPUs that require proprietry drivers and such
[08:56] <quick-> hi i use a proxy at college but not at home . how can i change the proxy settings for apt.  i edited the file /etc/apt/apt.conf but still i am getiing connecting to proxy . Please help
[08:57] <OerHeks> nominalC, Intel® HD graphics 4000 (integrated)
[08:58] <OerHeks> maybe the xswat ppa is any help >> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[08:59] <dr_willis> intel also has some new driver downloader tool i saw on either webupd8 or omgubuntu last week
[08:59] <OerHeks> dr_willis, indeed, http://www.webupd8.org/2013/03/intel-releases-linux-graphics-drivers.html
[09:00] <OerHeks> uh oh "do not install this on Ubuntu 64bit yet "
[09:03] <Tester34324> Err404NotFound:  what a nice name :)
[09:04] <c|oneman> how do I launch gnome3 from NXclient? I have unity as default and installed gnome now.
[09:10] <deung> srry i dont know
[09:12] <OerHeks> c|oneman, logout, change dm to gnome3 and login again
[09:12] <c|oneman> I can't
[09:12] <c|oneman> well.
[09:12] <c|oneman> perhaps I can
[09:12] <c|oneman> please restate
[09:14] <c|oneman> when I logout, im out
[09:14] <c|oneman> im either logged in to unity or not at all, I have no real displays
[09:15] <dr_willis> The login screen has a little icon to select other window managers
[09:15] <dr_willis> disable the annoying auto login stuff. ;)
[09:15] <c|oneman> I can't get to the login screen. nxclient logs me in automatically
[09:15] <c|oneman> how can I get to it?
[09:16] <OerHeks> just logout (not shutdown) top right corner
[09:16] <dr_willis> try it an dsee
[09:16] <dr_willis> and see
[09:16] <dr_willis> I dont use NX
[09:18] <dreki> So i want to install steam on my 64 bit Ubuntu. From what i understand, this means that I will have to add multi-architecture and some other 32 bit stuff. My question is what other affect could this have on my operating system? Could adding 32 bit libraries and such cause stability problems with other applications?
[09:18] <dr_willis> dreki:  i have no issue here.. i just installed the steam deb. it pulled in needed stuff.. and away i go...
[09:19] <nevyn> dreki: it's a parrallel installa of sutff so it should be fine.
[09:19] <dr_willis> Its rather hard to keep a pure 64bit system. theres just to many things that are stull 32bit and need the same stuff
[09:19] <dr_willis> so the answer is 'NO' it wont cause stabilty issues
[09:20] <c|oneman> dr_willis: doesn't work, that closes the nx client compeltel
[09:20] <dr_willis> I dont use NX. so no idea then c|oneman
[09:20] <Ben64> do you not have physical access to the computer?
[09:20] <dreki> dr_willis nevyn: thank you.
[09:20] <dr_willis> ther emay be a way to have nx go to the login screen instead.
[09:20] <c|oneman> well, what would I use to get to this login screen without a physical display?
[09:20] <dr_willis> c|oneman:  you could alter your .dmrc file perhaps
[09:20] <c|oneman> vnc?
[09:21] <c|oneman> ok
[09:21] <dr_willis> the Login screen is ran by the system, not the user. so i recall in the past setting up vnc (and i think freenx once) to run at boot and  go to lightdm.
[09:21] <dr_willis> but then you lost the persstant session  running feature of vnc..
[09:22] <nominalC> I got rid of the quiet & splash from options in grub, that solved it.
[09:22] <c|oneman> this is a vps so theres no real display.
[09:22] <dr_willis> or you could use the old .xinitrc or .xsession method to set exactly what gets ran
[09:22] <nominalC> did not need to add nomodeset
[09:22] <dr_willis> a vps may be too slow/laggy to get a decent desktop on remotely
[09:23] <dr_willis> i tend to just use x forwarding  on mine for the rare times i need a gui on it
[09:23] <lolcat> Even a decent dedicated felt laggy for me
[09:23] <c|oneman> hrm
[09:23] <GentSir> Why would you need a GUI on a vps?
[09:23] <dr_willis> on a local LAN i tend to use very minimal window managers for vnc. like  jwm
[09:24] <dr_willis> got a DigitalOcean VPS here.. :) sort of handy
[09:24] <dr_willis> for the cost of a soda a week. ;P i get a server to play with
[09:24] <GentSir> dr_willis, I also use DigitalOcean
[09:25] <dr_willis> there was an OMG cupon code for it. ;) not sure how to apply it to a existing account
[09:25] <c|oneman> okay, here's a easier question, how to I "unlock" the lock picture in user accoutn settings
[09:25] <lolcat> dr_willis: Not even in Norway a soda is $5
[09:25] <paul_> dr_willis how can I change the color of my titlebar using the crux theme in gnome 3.4.1 ?
[09:26] <dr_willis> paul_:  normally you dont change just colors and other tweaks that way any more
[09:26] <dr_willis> paul_:  play with differnt gtk themes to find one you like. there are some tweakable themes out that you may be able to alter
[09:26] <paul_> dr_willis is it blue by default then?
[09:26] <dr_willis> paul_:  i dont have themes memorized.. no idea
[09:26] <paul_> dr_willis is it gtk3 theme?
[09:26] <dr_willis> gtk3 is used by the last few releases of ubuntu.
[09:27] <paul_> dr_willis ok thank you once again
[09:27] <dr_willis> i grab a bunch of themes off the webupd8 ppa. then twiddle with them. theres one that has a tweak tool with it to change things
[09:28] <dr_willis> got one that the _ and max buttons are hidden untill you mouse over it.. thats my current theme. ;P
[09:28] <paul_> dr_willis thank you
[09:28] <Walther> Ok guys, anyone willing to help me debug why I'm not getting to proper desktop environment? In Xorg log, there's: [    18.055] (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[09:28] <dr_willis> nvidia driver is not installed or not working right
[09:29] <Walther> nvidia-current is installed
[09:29] <pungi-man> Walther: give us a pastebin of the whole log ....
[09:29] <dr_willis> or dosent suupport  your card
[09:29] <lolcat> dr_willis: I am uncertain if I'd rather have a fast server or a big server.
[09:29] <pungi-man> and dont paste it here ...
[09:29] <dr_willis> lolcat:  i go for a cheap server. :) since all its doing for me is running znc
[09:30] <Ben64> i go for a big fast server, 16GB ram, core i5, 2TB HD
[09:30] <Walther> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5621763/
[09:30] <Walther> pungi-man: ^
[09:30] <Ben64> Walther: did it ever work?
[09:31] <lolcat> dr_willis: I thought of maybe placing lolcat.no on the server
[09:31] <Walther> Ben64: It has worked in the past.
[09:31] <lolcat> $5 isn't really expensive
[09:31] <Walther> My GPU is GTX570, should definitely be supported.
[09:31] <Ben64> Walther: i mean on that computer, in that ubuntu install
[09:31] <dr_willis> lolcat:  i used the server to replace my raspberry pi that was running znc. ;)
[09:32] <dr_willis> lolcat:  theres that onecloud service i may try to get going on it next
[09:32] <Walther> Ben64: Yes, it has worked in the past. On this computer, on a install before some updates and upgrades
[09:33] <nominalC> *an install
[09:33] <Ben64> Walther: sudo apt-get install build-essential dkms linux-headers$(uname -r | sed s/^.*[0-9]\-/-/g)
[09:34] <Walther> heh, now that's some mean regexp
[09:34] <Ben64> :)
[09:34] <Walther> but wouldn't headers-generic be enough?
[09:35] <Ben64> if you're running generic yeah
[09:35] <Walther> I'm running 3.8.0-13-generic
[09:35] <Ben64> 3.8?
[09:35] <Ben64> what ubuntu version
[09:35] <Walther> just upgraded to raring as a last resort trying to fix the graphics issue, didn't help
[09:36] <Ben64> well then support would be in #ubuntu+1
[09:36] <Walther> well, again, the issue was present already in quantal as well, in the exact same form :P
[09:36] <Walther> and in +1 response times are occasionally a bit ...slow
[09:37] <Walther> but yeah, installing headers now, and will do a --reintsll on the drivers to see if it helps
[09:37] <Walther> reinstall*
[09:37] <Ben64> i think sudo dpkg-reconfigure dkms would re-build it
[09:37] <Ben64> i always forget the exact command
[09:37] <Walther> mm, perhaps.  Now I get full resolution in DE, but I don't still have full unity available
[09:46] <Walther> Where are unity's logs?
[09:49] <onto> Hi! I am running ubuntu 12.04 and after upgrading (to 12.04) when trying to connect to the wireless the system freezes (cpu doesn't peak but everything freezes, keyboard + mouse input is not recognised -- usually recovers but sometimes I must reboot). My uname -a "Linux laptop 3.2.0-23-generic #36-Ubuntu SMP Tue Apr 10 20:39:51 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux"
[09:50] <onto> I just tried connecting and monitoring syslog and this is what I think is the relevant part:
[09:51] <onto> Mar 17 10:38:10 laptop kernel: [  106.092506] Clocksource tsc unstable (delta = -124136738 ns)
[09:51] <onto> Mar 17 10:38:10 laptop kernel: [  106.092641] Switching to clocksource hpet
[09:51] <onto> Mar 17 10:38:22 laptop kernel: [  116.600331] psmouse serio1: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost synchronization, throwing 2 bytes away.
[09:51] <onto> Mar 17 10:38:22 laptop kernel: [  117.373849] atl1c 0000:08:00.0: irq 43 for MSI/MSI-X
[09:51] <FloodBot1> onto: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:51] <redtape-renegade> !flood
[09:51] <onto> FloodBot: ah, sorry
[09:51] <Walther> I don't get a full DE running. On "unity --replace" i get among some other errors, "Error: Plugin 'opengl' not loaded"
[09:53] <Walther> Also, in Xorg.0.log, [    18.455] (EE) Failed to load module "nv" (module does not exist, 0)
[09:53] <onto> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5621803/
[09:54] <TakeItEZ> Walther: #ubuntu+1 for 13.04 support
[09:54] <Walther> TakeItEZ: just fyi, i got the same errors on quantal, i just upgraded to see if raring would have this fixed
[10:01] <hualet> deepinskin, linuxdeepin?
[10:14] <zub> Hi. Does Ubuntu for amd64 require SSE4?
[10:15] <zub> I installed 13.04 on an Intel Atom box... all works well, but in one package (vice) I'm getting a SIGILL, and the cause is an SSE4 instruction
[10:15] <zub> I'm about to file a big, but first wanted to check minimal requirements... I couldn't find if SSE4 is required
[10:17] <c|oneman> I think the problem is that nxclient doesnt play nice with unity
[10:25] <Kiryx> Hello #ubuntu
[10:25] <Kiryx> I know this is not the best place to ask
[10:25] <Kiryx> but is it possible that I have some sort of trojan on 12.04 ?
[10:26] <cristian_c> lol
[10:26] <Kiryx> recently someone is trying to access my gmail/facebook accounts from elsewhere
[10:26] <Kiryx> at least these are the website that block such activity and warn me through email
[10:27] <Kiryx> i had different passwords, and absolutely no one know about them
[10:27] <Kiryx> and these are not failed attempts - gmail/fb does not allow it because they apparently use geolocation systems as a security measure
[10:28] <Kiryx> so, is it even possible ? I did not install anything outside repo
[10:30] <TheGrey> o/ I'm not sure if I can ask this..but is there an ebook that explains linux in full? I want to "know" linux fully. Like exactly how the OS operates, what the process is for me to ask the computer to do something and then it does it, how the whole thing functions...  Thanks
[10:31] <ovrflw0x> iamuser ALL=NOPASSWD: /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch ||| running "sudo sh ~/script.sh" asks for password WTF? & why?
[10:31] <roppongininja> hi guys
[10:31] <ovrflw0x> iamuser ALL=NOPASSWD: /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch ||| running "sudo sh ~/script.sh" asks for password WTF? & why?
[10:32] <roppongininja> sudo always asks for the root password? :D
[10:32] <roppongininja> maybe thats why
[10:32] <ovrflw0x> stfu
[10:35] <bazhang> !language | ovrflw0x
[10:36] <aslanon> hi all
[10:36] <jelly-home> ovrflw0x: because "/sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch" is different from "/bin/sh /home/iamuser/script.sh"
[10:36] <jelly-home> ovrflw0x: and the latter is what you told sudo to run
[10:37] <ovrflw0x> jellow, i have "echo NAUGHTYJELLY > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch"
[10:37] <ovrflw0x> inside script.shg
[10:37] <ovrflw0x> s/g/ /
[10:38] <jelly-home> ovrflw0x: sudo configuration deals with commands, not files.  If you need to run /home/iamuser/script.sh as root, put that in sudoers.
[10:38] <jelly-home> ovrflw0x: then make sure the script is executable, and try sudo ~/script.sh
[10:39] <jelly-home> (I'm assuming ~ means /home/iamuser for this user)
[10:44] <c|oneman> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/570792/unlock_bullshit.png how do I press "unlock"
[10:52] <Mrokii> Hello. I'm looking for an app that shows me the size of my folders graphically. I know there is one but I forgot the name.
[10:52] <xwalk_> Disk Usage Analyzer.
[10:53] <pentester> ...
[10:53] <Mrokii> xwalk_: Thanks.
[10:53] <TakeItEZ> Mrokii: baobab
[10:53] <pentester> Should not be to hard to make one?
[10:54] <Mrokii> Apparently that's the same but I couldn't find it because of the stupid name.
[10:54] <ipm-leo> some can help me learn python
[10:54] <pentester> What is it about Python that you wish to learn?
[10:55] <kallep> where can i put html pages to browse them at localhost?
[10:55] <pentester> If it is the basics you should Youtube tutorials? lol?
[10:55] <Mrokii> ipm-leo: There are free ebooks available, even for Python 3.
[10:55] <aijazz> hi everyone
[10:56] <pentester> I have tons of books.
[10:56] <pentester> A-Z on Networking / Programming