[08:59] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> thanx
[08:59] <Suepahfly> "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/win"  for example
[08:59] <oliwer> znh > it looks very nice, but i am afraid to install it
[08:59] <goldfish> oliwer: what is it?
[08:59] <znh> oliwer: I'll do it at my silly laptop
[08:59] <oliwer> ok thx
[08:59] <znh> oliwer: i'll keep you informed
[09:00] <oliwer> afterstep is a windows manager (like gnome ...) but it's very... different
[09:00] <Suepahfly> btw, anyone know how to get the buttons on my logitec mx1000 working?
[09:00] <goldfish> i see.
[09:00] <goldfish> i'm happy with fluxbox
[09:00] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> no matter what i do i can't get access to that drive >.<
[09:00] <Razor-X> ugghhh, back... again
[09:00] <oliwer> znh > actualy, there are .deb packages for afterstep
[09:00] <Razor-X> Tsukasa: Kite!!!
[09:00] <FaeWolfe> wb
[09:01] <Tsukasa> Razor-X: Shuugo!!!
[09:01] <znh> oliwer: yea I'm downloading it right now
[09:01] <oliwer> but is it enough to have the choice beetween kde and afterstep at startup
[09:01] <Tsukasa> bah kde
[09:01] <oliwer> tsukasa > kde better than gnome !
[09:01] <Tsukasa> that's your opinion :)
[09:01] <Tsukasa> I think kde is the bloated porn queen of window managers ;)
[09:02] <Suepahfly> i preffer gonme over kde
[09:02] <oliwer> i like trolling ^^
[09:02] <oliwer> you will burn in hell
[09:02] <Tsukasa> yay
[09:02] <Tsukasa> :)
[09:02] <inemo> what are the recommendations for VNC servers on hoary?
[09:02] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> wow when i started using ubuntu a few monthes ago
[09:03] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> there where only like 300 people in here ^_^
[09:03] <thenuke> inemo: hoary has vnc -server already
[09:03] <znh> inemo: a fast connection the the client is always nice, the hardware doesn't really mather it works fast on my 120mhz laptop
[09:03] <oliwer> anyway, everybody should look at www.afterstep.org
[09:03] <tiglionabbit> If VLC and Totem will not play the sound in quicktime files, but mplayer will, what does that mean?
[09:03] <inemo> thenuke: where?
[09:03] <thenuke> inemo: you should find it from some menu on the top of the screen in gnome
[09:03] <Tsukasa> inemo, system -> settings -> remote desktop
[09:03] <inemo> znh: I meant vnc server software, ie software that shares the hoary screen ;)
[09:04] <inemo> thenuke Tsukasa thanks :)
[09:04] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> is there a hard drive how to for ubuntu?
[09:04] <thenuke> inemo: tweak the settings of the server if you dont have enough bandwidth.
[09:04] <oliwer> taltan ?
[09:04] <FaeWolfe> ack I have to shut down   t-storms      Razor thanks for tryin to help I'll be back later to try to figure it out again
[09:04] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: you mean partitioning or mounting?
[09:04] <thenuke> inemo: drop down the number of colours and sometinhg like that
[09:05] <inemo> thenuke: its over 54mb airport, so 256 colours is fine
[09:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> well i used qtparted to partition and format it ext3
[09:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and i use konq to mount it
[09:05] <Razor-X> FaeWolfe: nooooooooooo!!!!
[09:05] <tiglionabbit> okay, and then?
[09:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i thought i made the correct changes in fstab
[09:05] <Whistler> i installed crossfire-client-gtk so how can i run it now?
[09:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> but for some reason i can't wright to the drive
[09:05] <Suepahfly> btw, anyone know how to get the buttons on my logitec mx1000 working?
[09:05] <Razor-X> I need to send a queued message on IRC :(
[09:05] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: is it NTFS?
[09:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> no ext3
[09:05] <Tsukasa> Whistler, try to locate it using whereis crossfire, maybe this gives you a clue
[09:06] <aCiD2> Hey, all im trying to get my xp partition to automount, so I do this by editing fstab, correct?
[09:06] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: oops sorry.
[09:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i changd it from ntfs
[09:06] <znh> ChurcH_of_FoamY: you need to be root to change the fstab file
[09:06] <Suepahfly> yes aCiD2
[09:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i was in root when i changed it
[09:06] <znh> ok
[09:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> but it dosen't want to let me wright to it
[09:06] <znh> oliwer: okay almost done installing
[09:06] <aCiD2> ok, well I tried adding "/dev/hdb5	/mnt/windows	ntfs	defaults,user	0	0" but it seems I need to be root to access it
[09:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> not even when i mount it as root
[09:06] <aCiD2> Whys that?
[09:06] <oliwer> znh > good luck :)
[09:06] <znh> \o/
[09:07] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and i have to get this drive working
[09:07] <Suepahfly> aCiD2, : /dev/hda1       /mnt/win1       ntfs    ro,user,nosuid,umask=000        0       0, this is a line from my fstab
[09:07] <aCiD2> ah, ok
[09:07] <aCiD2> Ill give those options a shot
[09:07] <kbrooks> huh
[09:07] <kbrooks> #1?
[09:07] <MrBiscuit> Anyone know an alternative to Linuxant HSF Modem Drivers
[09:07] <Suepahfly> note the umask=000
[09:07] <kbrooks> on distrowatch?
[09:07] <oliwer> znh > ddid u ever use nextstep ?
[09:07] <aCiD2> I used 0222
[09:07] <aCiD2> (when I do it manually)
[09:07] <kbrooks> *looks at everything *
[09:07] <kbrooks> :P
[09:08] <inemo> Tsukasa: how do I tweak the settings behind remote desktop?
[09:08] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> so is there something i'm missing?
[09:08] <znh> oliwer: nope only used: windowmaker, enlightenment(E), KDE, gnome, icewm, qvwm, evilwm, fluxbox, xfce4, and after a while afterstep
[09:08] <AlexFrenz> hello world! I've a simple question: how can i disable the power management of the HD in the ACPI sistem?
[09:08] <znh> AlexFrenz: hello user!
[09:08] <AlexFrenz> hello znh
[09:08] <aCiD2> whats the syntax to remount a partition?
[09:08] <tiglionabbit> I would also like to know how to mount my partition with write access to it
[09:08] <oliwer> znh > lol you really have time to lose ^^
[09:08] <Tsukasa> inemo, try /etc/vnc.conf
[09:08] <anacron> hi, is it possible to make linux write ntfs?
[09:09] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hey maybe thats what i have to do ^_^
[09:09] <znh> oliwer: eh?
[09:09] <define> Hi guys
[09:09] <Suepahfly> anacron, no not totally yet
[09:09] <Kyral> Not unless you wanna kill your drive
[09:09] <tiglionabbit> aCiD2: you mean unmount and mount it again?  umount /dev/hd??; mount /dev/hd?? /mnt/whatever
[09:09] <Suepahfly> but there are people working on it
[09:09] <Tsukasa> aCiD2, I know that you can remount everything using mount -a
[09:09] <MrBiscuit> is there an alternative to linuxant
[09:09] <define> hey hoe would you guys rate ubuntu security-wise out of the box
[09:09] <inemo> Tsukasa: as root?
[09:09] <Razor-X> can someone do a favor for me?
[09:09] <aCiD2> tiglionabbit, theres a way to do something like "mount remount"
[09:09] <anacron> okey, so how should i move some files to my windows partition? if i can write to ntfs
[09:09] <Tsukasa> inemo, yep, edit it as root
[09:09] <oliwer> znh > u tested quiet a lot of windows manager
[09:09] <tiglionabbit> aCiD2: o.
[09:09] <znh> define: well it's more secure then our billy gay's ms
[09:10] <znh> oliwer: yea i'm still not statisfied
[09:10] <kbrooks> gad
[09:10] <AlexFrenz> I've a simple question: how can i disable the power management of the HD in the ACPI sistem?
[09:10] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> >.<
[09:10] <kbrooks> emacs is a big deal...
[09:10] <kbrooks> sheesh
[09:10] <Nintendud> I'm compiling mplayer from source, but it doesn't see xv. When I used the precompiled mplayer package installed with apt-get, I could use xv. The reason i compiled is because it will perform a lot faster on my computer. Is there any solution?
[09:10] <oliwer> znh > u tested quiet a lot of windows manager
[09:10] <anacron> hey anybody? do have an idea for moving some files to ntfs partition?
[09:10] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i thought i had done everything right >.<
[09:10] <define> palm OS is more secure than MS out of the box...i need something a bit more precise
[09:10] <oliwer> oops
[09:10] <aCiD2> Suepahfly, I used your fstab options, did a "mount -a" but I still cant get in, think I need a reboot?
[09:10] <goldfish> anacron: you can't write safely to ntfs from linux.
[09:10] <define> znh
[09:10] <kbrooks> Nintendud, don't compile!!!!!
[09:10] <znh> define
[09:11] <Nintendud> kbrooks: >:O why not??
[09:11] <Suepahfly> aCiD2, got the correct partion?
[09:11] <anacron> goldfish, yeah i already know that, but what should i do then
[09:11] <luzbelricota> hi, wich program you recommend me for design web pages under linux ?
[09:11] <aCiD2> Suepahfly, yup
[09:11] <Nintendud> it plays with x11, but it is not full screen with -fs!!
[09:11] <Tsukasa> luzbelricota, nvu
[09:11] <goldfish> luzbelricota: vim !
[09:11] <Suepahfly> and did you make a directory for your mount point?
[09:11] <aCiD2> Suepahfly, its not updating the permissions with the umask though
[09:11] <Nintendud> so either I need to figure out how to get it to play full screen with x11, or xv
[09:11] <Suepahfly> a reboot might help
[09:11] <znh> luzbelricota: nano is nice
[09:11] <luzbelricota> nvu and vim, can i get with apt-get ?
[09:11] <aCiD2> ok, i'll give that a shot
[09:11] <aCiD2> brb
[09:11] <goldfish> anacron: well, i made a fat32 partition to share between windows and linux.
[09:11] <luzbelricota> znh: i want a visual one
[09:12] <AlexFrenz> HELLO.I've a simple question: how can i disable the power management of the HD in the ACPI sistem?
[09:12] <cieffe> hi everybody
[09:12] <Tsukasa> luzbelricota, nvu is available via apt-get
[09:12] <luzbelricota> sorry, vnu and vim are visual editors?
[09:12] <znh> luzbelricota: nano is visual, you might mean graphical.. try gedit :) or nedit
[09:12] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: do you mean you can't write to it with sudo, or can't write to it at all?  I believe it is normal in unix permissions to not be able to write to something outside your home directory
[09:12] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> can't at all
[09:12] <luzbelricota> yeah, graphical
[09:12] <tiglionabbit> without super permissions..
[09:12] <tiglionabbit> oh
[09:12] <luzbelricota> sorry my english
[09:12] <Tsukasa> luzbelricota, nvu is the next generation of the old netscape composer (correct me if i'm wrong)
[09:12] <anacron> goldfish, well i can't do that, so is there a way to access linux partition from windows?
[09:12] <kbrooks> #define visual console
[09:12] <kbrooks> ??
[09:12] <kbrooks> znh, do you mean console?
[09:13] <goldfish> anacron: well u can copy files, one second.
[09:13] <znh> kbrooks: when?
 luzbelricota: nano is visual, you might mean graphical.. try gedit :) or nedit
[09:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i can't wright to it at all it denise me access
[09:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> weather i mount it as root or as user
[09:13] <Nintendud> Can anyone help me? I'm trying to get mplayer to play files correctly in full screen. With x11, it is not completely full screen, but in a box in the middle. I used to be able to use xv with the apt-get package, but I compiled from source for speed, and it didn't recognize xv. Any solution?
[09:13] <znh> kbrooks: eh.. console doesn't fit there?
[09:13] <anacron> goldfish, copy how?, could you tell me some more?
[09:14] <kbrooks> znh, 'a console application'
[09:14] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: what I mean is, open a root terminal and try to create a directory in that partition or something, or "sudo nautilus" and use that
[09:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> um ok
[09:14] <sam_> I still haven't been able to update azureus in ubuntu. Any suggestions. Tried sudo -s and then running it but no luck.
[09:14] <znh> kbrooks: nano is a console application, you might mean graphical, like gedit and nedit - better?
[09:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i'll try have know idea what nautalus is though
[09:14] <Nintendud> nautilus is gnome's file manager
[09:15] <davro> when you press ctrl+alt f1 etc how would i go about changing the font size on this console screen ?
[09:15] <aCiD2> Suepahfly, yup, thats got it :) Thank you!
[09:15] <znh> oliwer: installing takes a while on my 120mhz laptop.. it's still busy with his configuration files
[09:15] <AlexFrenz> anybody can help me?
[09:15] <goldfish> anacron: Program is called Explore2fs
[09:15] <oliwer> yep nano is cooool !
[09:15] <Suepahfly> aCiD2,  np :)
[09:15] <znh> nano is awesome while transparant..
[09:15] <anacron> goldfish, okey i'll do some google-stuff thanks ;)
[09:15] <goldfish> np
[09:15] <goldfish> znh: everything is awesome transparent !
[09:16] <James686> ok I did that, still did not work!
[09:16] <aCiD2> now I have one more question
[09:16] <znh> goldfish: eh.. not everything ;)
[09:16] <aCiD2> When I go to places -> computer
[09:16] <goldfish> znh: :)
[09:16] <oliwer> but ms notepad is better
[09:16] <luzbelricota> i am trying to download nvu from apt-get and doesnt finds anything
[09:16] <aCiD2> I see the windwos drive as "99g harddrive" - is it possible to rename this?
[09:16] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i forgot a step
[09:16] <oliwer> ..
[09:16] <Suepahfly> i really dunno
[09:16] <znh> :P
[09:16] <James686> znh: not workin
[09:16] <aCiD2> well, its no biggy :)
[09:16] <znh> oliwer: jus hit startx
[09:17] <znh> James686: xorgconfig ?
[09:17] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i have the mountpoint as /Storage and it created that folder on my hard drive
[09:17] <othernoob> does anyone know an RTS-channel on irc?
[09:17] <James686> didnt work
[09:17] <Suepahfly> i see mine as 51gb drive, 19.4 gb drive, ect. ect.
[09:17] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> not the one that is storage
[09:17] <lok> r irc.ircsuper.net
[09:17] <znh> James686: what error message :)
[09:17] <aCiD2> Suepahfly, yup
[09:17] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> on hdb1
[09:17] <oliwer_> znh ?
[09:17] <znh> oliwer_: yes?
[09:17] <kbrooks> aCiD2, might be possible, let me check
[09:17] <lok> oups sorry
[09:17] <James686> no error message, same as before
[09:17] <aCiD2> kbrooks, yey, thanks
[09:17] <oliwer_> sorry i had a deco
[09:17] <Nintendud> Can anyone help me? I'm trying to get mplayer to play files correctly in full screen. With x11, it is not completely full screen, but in a box in the middle. I used to be able to use xv with the apt-get package, but I compiled from source for speed, and it didn't recognize xv. Any solution?
[09:17] <oliwer_> what did you said ?
[09:17] <James686> and it just brings me to the login text
[09:17] <znh> oliwer_: np, afterstep is loading
[09:17] <oliwer_> oki :)
[09:18] <znh> oliwer_: loading part is already nice
[09:18] <oliwer_> how did you do to launch it ?
[09:18] <znh> oliwer_: I typed with my keyboard buttons 'startx'
[09:18] <James686> this is really irritating, why do I get this problem and no one else?
[09:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hda1 and hdb1 are showing the same files now >.<
[09:18] <oliwer_> but at ubuntu startup ? is gnome still by default ?
[09:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> what the hell?
[09:19] <znh> James686: I think you have a very acient/new videocard
[09:19] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: did you mount the same thing twice?
[09:19] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i messed with the mount point and now it's goofed up >,<
[09:19] <James686> Nvidia GeforceFX 5500
[09:19] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> must have
[09:19] <znh> oliwer_: the loading part is awesome
[09:19] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> /dev/hdb1       /               ext3   rw,user,noauto       0	    0
[09:19] <oliwer_> hhhoooooOOOOO
[09:20] <Drakonik> Hello.
[09:20] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and some how i think thats not right >.<
[09:20] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: you meant to put hdb1 at your root?
[09:20] <znh> oliwer_: ok pagers and such loaded
[09:20] <James686> znh?
[09:20] <Suepahfly> why can't i log to gnome with 'root' ?
[09:20] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> no
[09:20] <znh> yes James686
[09:20] <Drakonik> I've got a challenge for anyone who's willing to take it.
[09:20] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: then change it =P
[09:20] <oliwer_> good
[09:20] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i want it to be a storage drive
[09:20] <Drakonik> Sell me Ubuntu.
[09:20] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> to what?
[09:20] <James686> you got what I said?
[09:20] <Drakonik> Try to convince me to download it.
[09:20] <znh> oliwer_: It has buttons like windowmaker
[09:21] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i tryed /Storage but when i mount it it won't let me wright to it
[09:21] <kbrooks> Drakonik, why?
[09:21] <oliwer_> yeah i saw scrennshots, it is dark isn't it ?
[09:21] <othernoob> Drakonik: take it or leave it :p
[09:21] <znh> oliwer_: but it's damn slow on my 120mhz laptop - not weird
[09:21] <davro> The console screens found using ctrl+alt f1 f2 * can the font size be changed on this ?
[09:21] <Drakonik> HEhee.
[09:21] <Mestapheles> Just how does one configure printers without gnome-cups-manager with a ubuntu minimal/server install if cups weinterface is locked out?
[09:21] <James686> znh: well?
[09:21] <James686> znh: can you assist me any further?
[09:21] <luzbelricota> can anyone help me to install nvu ?
[09:21] <Suepahfly> Drakonik, read the docs, look @ the site and decide for your self if you want ubuntu or not
[09:22] <znh> James686: can you give me the output of lspci ?
[09:22] <tiglionabbit> davro: I believe it is possible to pass grub different boot options, which cause it to put those consoles in a different resolution.  As for the font, dunno
[09:22] <James686> znh: whats that?
[09:22] <znh> James686: a program :)
[09:22] <Mestapheles> anyone done a server ubuntu install, then set up printers?
[09:22] <oliwer_> FOR YOU WHO IS ASKING DUMB QUESTIONS >> http://ubuntuguide.org/
[09:22] <James686> how do I get the output?
[09:22] <znh> oliwer_: mind reader :P
[09:23] <tiglionabbit> oliwer_: we're not supposed to support that, try linking to the wiki instead
[09:23] <oliwer_> ...
[09:23] <znh> James686: do this please 'lspci | grep Video'
[09:23] <oliwer_> hoo ok
[09:23] <kvidell> we don't typically support the ubuntuguide apparently. It's got a lot of inaccuracies in it.
[09:23] <znh> James686: No dont
[09:23] <znh> James686: do this please 'lspci | grep VGA'
[09:23] <James686> ok...
[09:23] <kvidell> and a lot of stuff that assumes the reader is smarter than not.
[09:23] <davro> tiglionabbit, that could work will have a google about that
[09:23] <oliwer_> but wiki is not as good as my link ;)
[09:23] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> umount it seems / is mounted multiple times please check that the disk is enterd correctly
[09:23] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> >.<
[09:24] <anacron> hmm actually could someone help me with cd-writing softwares, instead of trying to copy those files to windows?
[09:24] <tiglionabbit> davro: someone mentions it in ubuntuforums under the customizing hoary section.  I don't think it worked for me though, =P sorry
[09:24] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> now the bugger won't let me unmount it >.<
[09:24] <znh> oliwer_: afterstep is lovely
[09:24] <luzbelricota> wich application can give actualized information about weather in our desktops ???
[09:24] <davro> exterminate kvidell.
[09:24] <thotypous> anacron, try k3b ;)
[09:24] <znh> oliwer_: do you want to VNC on it?
[09:24] <kvidell> hehe
[09:24] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: you probably wont be able to unmount your / directory
[09:24] <oliwer_> znh > u make me happy
[09:24] <anacron> thotypous, i have that, but it won't work
[09:24] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: would be best to edit the fstab and restart
[09:25] <tiglionabbit> bubbye guys
[09:25] <anacron> the problem is that i can't actually burn anything
[09:25] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> kk
[09:25] <djp> is it not possible to delete items from the gnome menu?
[09:25] <oliwer_> znh > but are u sure that will be able to use kde after installing afterstep
[09:25] <anacron> it says that "you can only make image of this stuff blaa blaa"
[09:25] <luzbelricota> gdesklets ??? is for see weather ?
[09:25] <fcsmac> do I need to install any kernel patches for a g3?
[09:26] <fcsmac> or should I?
[09:26] <thp> Does ubuntu have nvidia drivers installed as standard? Or should i installed them by console?
[09:26] <znh> oliwer_: You can always switch between window managers inside gdm
[09:26] <znh> oliwer_: before you instal afterstep, do you want to try it out with vnc?
[09:26] <Suepahfly> aCiD2, yiu can rename the mounted windows drives if you login in to gnome un root, there must be an easier way but i'm a linux noob
[09:26] <anacron> thp: use apt-get :)
[09:26] <djp> thp: the free nvidia driver nv should be installed by default
[09:26] <^thehatsrule^> thp: if you mean 3d binary accelerated drivers, no
[09:26] <oliwer_> znh > nope
[09:26] <djp> thp: no 3d acceleration with nv though
[09:26] <thp> i mean 3d :)
[09:26] <oliwer_> i would like to have choice at x startup
[09:27] <thp> okay thanks then
[09:27] <kbrooks> you can remount /
[09:27] <kbrooks> but you cant do so...
[09:27] <djp> thp: apt-get nvidia-glx i think
[09:27] <znh> oliwer_: in gdm you can choose 'sessions', there you can pick a wm
[09:27] <fcsmac> I just installed the basic powerpc kernel when I first installed, are there any kernel updates for g3?
[09:27] <djp> thp: i stick to the free driver myself
[09:27] <djp> no smeg users here?
[09:27] <oliwer_> znh > damn it ! i'm noob i don't know gdm
[09:28] <oliwer_> znh > gdm is only for gnome isn't it ?
[09:28] <znh> oliwer_: not really, I have gdm and I use icewm :)
[09:28] <sam_> Can somebody help me update azureus?
[09:29] <oliwer_> znh > i'll try to install gdm
[09:29] <znh> oliwer_: it's already on your box..
[09:29] <oliwer_> i where is it ?
[09:29] <oliwer_> doesn't work in konsole
[09:29] <znh> oliwer_: gdm starts whenever you bootup the computer, it's the screen we're it asks your username and password
[09:30] <oliwer_> haaa ok
[09:30] <znh> bye
[09:30] <oliwer_> ok... i install after step and i try to stay alive ^^
[09:30] <oliwer_> bye
[09:31] <techii> what do I have to do to get python syntax highlighting in vim?
[09:31] <davro> tiglionabbit, just had a google seems its the Frame-buffer decimal codes that are needed vga=791 is about 1024 16 bit sound about right
[09:31] <ateves> hi! i have a problem with my second ubuntu installation. i installed acroread via apt-get, it shows in the menu, but i when i try to open it, nothing happens, the same when i try to open a pdf with it
[09:31] <bluefoxicy> My Hoary CDs are here!
[09:32] <James686> znh: wont work
[09:32] <bluefoxicy> I ordered like 60 but I didn't get a display box :(
[09:32] <fcsmac> is there a wesnoth port for power pc linux?
[09:32] <James686> I g2g to work help me later lol
[09:32] <luzbelricota> i downloaded nvu 1.0 pc but i cant install it
[09:32] <bluefoxicy> Meanwhile some of my coworkers want copies of Ubuntu LiveCDs and one wants an installer.
[09:33] <bluefoxicy> I was planning to hand these things out in my Unix class
[09:33] <bluefoxicy> which I was taking at the time of order :(
[09:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok no matter what i do it won't let me wright to the drive >.<
[09:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i must have done something wrong
[09:33] <inemo> try writing ;)
[09:33] <techii> bluefoxicy: how long did it take?
[09:33] <bluefoxicy> techii:  I ordered them in 5.04 :)
[09:34] <bluefoxicy> so it took 2 months.
[09:34] <luzbelricota> i doesnt has any configure script or anything
[09:34] <luzbelricota> what i do ?
[09:34] <bluefoxicy> I wish I could pre-order breezy.  :>
[09:34] <bluefoxicy> also, the box art sucks.
[09:34] <bluefoxicy> the CD label is just red with white or black text :(
[09:34] <bluefoxicy> Breezy's CD label should be a picture of a badger
[09:35] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> could it be that i'm trying to use the same mountpoint that i used when the drive was ntfs?
[09:35] <Mestapheles> sh*t that unofficial starter guide has a gapping hole.  No printer instructions for the newbie, however it is with gnome-cups-manager
[09:35] <bluefoxicy> Mestapheles:  system->administration->printers add new printer
[09:35] <Mestapheles> I know that
[09:35] <bluefoxicy> pick local, detected printer, model, and set it to do letter instead of A4 in the printer properties.
[09:36] <Mestapheles> but do you know how to add a printer without gnome?
[09:36] <bluefoxicy> Mestapheles:  localhost:631 but that's disabled in ubuntu.
[09:36] <Mestapheles> as last time I checked the web interface was disabled
[09:36] <Mestapheles> yes
[09:36] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> do i have to set the drive "active"?
[09:36] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> to use it?
[09:37] <bluefoxicy> kde should have a printer manager in the system configuration
[09:37] <luzbelricota> --> is any theme manager for gnome desktop ???
[09:37] <anacron> how can i reconfigure openssh-server ?
[09:37] <Mestapheles> so I'll have to apt-get install gnome-cups-manager onto my minimal install
[09:37] <Mestapheles> thanks
[09:37] <bluefoxicy> Mestapheles:  how are you without gnome?  Kshutubuntu?
[09:37] <bluefoxicy> oh
[09:37] <bluefoxicy> you have a minimal install
[09:37] <bluefoxicy> hmm.
[09:37] <sam_> Please someone, sorry to sound so pathetic. but I've been bugged by this azureus updating problem for over a week now.
[09:37] <Mestapheles> I just want to use xfce4
[09:37] <itz> Want an easy gui ftp server for ubuntu thats easy to setup... any suggestions?
[09:37] <techii> MestaphelesJ: look in /etc/cups
[09:37] <djp> any gnome meny editor users here?
[09:37] <bluefoxicy> Mestapheles:  ask how to enable the web interface in some channel, heh techii may know how.
[09:37] <Mestapheles> I hardly use any gnome specific features,
[09:37] <anacron> sam_, just ignore it like i do :D
[09:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> when you partition a hard drive do you  have to set the partition "active" to use it?
[09:38] <luzbelricota> --> is any theme manager for gnome desktop ??? similar to kde-looks.org
[09:38] <techii> the config files are there, haven't used them though
[09:38] <sam_> anacron, you mean don't update it?
[09:38] <techii> art.gnome.org
[09:38] <sam_> I guess that would work. But I hate it when things don't work.
[09:38] <anacron> sam_, yeah, it just won't stop that bugging
[09:38] <techii> then there is something like "gnome-look.org"
[09:38] <dohpaz> I'm testing out Hoary LiveCD and I was curious about browsing the filesystem using Nautilus. Apparently, when I click a folder (eg. /mnt) the parent will close. The only way to go "back" is to use Open Parent under the file menu. I find this counter-intuitive to a new user who has never used Gnome. a) What is the rationale behind this? and b) how do I disable it?
[09:38] <beowu1f> anyone here running 19200x1200 resolution???
[09:38] <beowu1f> sorry
[09:39] <beowu1f> 1920x1200
[09:39] <goldfish> 1680 x 1050
[09:39] <HavoK> hi there.. there is any way to play dvds in breezy?
[09:39] <itz> Want an easy gui ftp server for ubuntu thats easy to setup... any suggestions?
[09:39] <HavoK> dohpaz: you should use gconf-editor
[09:39] <techii> dohpaz: not quite shure, atleast for spatial mode (did I spell right?)
[09:40] <Mestapheles> techii: /etc/cups ? will do
[09:40] <techii> may be hard coded
[09:40] <inemo> how do I go about installing python on hoary?
[09:40] <techii> Mestapheles: thats where the config files are for the printing system
[09:40] <techii> inemo: its preinstalled afaik
[09:40] <bluefoxicy> Mestapheles:  #gentoo may know how to reconfigure cups to allow web interface on <IP_ADDRESS> (yes lots of non-gentoo questions get asked there)
[09:40] <HavoK> and enable the flag /apps/nautilus/preferences/no_ubuntu_satial
[09:40] <nightswim> inemo: sudo apt-get install python
[09:40] <Mestapheles> thanks guys
[09:40] <HavoK> and enable the flag /apps/nautilus/preferences/no_ubuntu_spatial
[09:40] <gek> anyone have a gmail invite they can send me?
[09:40] <nightswim> if it isnt already there
[09:41] <Tsukasa> dohpaz, as already mentioned use the gconf-editor and navigate to / -> apps -> nautilus -> preferences and check always_use_browser
[09:41] <beowu1f> goldfish whats your horiz ref. set to..??
[09:41] <techii> but im not familiar with cups
[09:41] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> how to see all files in consloe?
[09:41] <bluefoxicy> Mestapheles:  or #cups
[09:41] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> console even
[09:41] <bluefoxicy> techii:  there's 900 people in #gentoo :)
[09:41] <Mestapheles> better yet
[09:41] <bluefoxicy> one of them has to know :D
[09:41] <anacron> hey someone? how to configure ssh server?
[09:41] <inemo> nightswim: that says its already at the latest, but when I try and run python script I get error
[09:41] <HavoK> dohpaz: if you still want to use spatial browsing do as I say, else do as Tsukasa said
[09:41] <inemo> and it runs fine on python 2.4 on my OS X
[09:41] <techii> inemo: what is the error?
[09:41] <thenuke> anacron: /etc/ssh/
[09:42] <nightswim> inemo: make sure the #!/usr/bin python on top of the file is correct
[09:42] <nightswim> ie, that it points to your python
[09:42] <techii> anacron: dont' think a ssh server is installed by default
[09:42] <dohpaz> Tsukasa, HavoK, I found it under GConf/apps/nautilus/preferences/no_ubuntu_spatial; again, it seems pretty counter-intuitive to a new user who has never used Gnome (I keep bringing this up because I'm thinking of giving Ubuntu to a friend who has been dying to try out Linux/Gnome, but doesn't know anything about it.)
[09:42] <fcsmac> haha it points to your python
[09:42] <nightswim> or do some creative symlinking
[09:42] <nightswim> or use env
[09:42] <AndyR> where is best place to put hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc ?
[09:42] <inemo> ah, and that would be where nightswim ? /etc/python ??
[09:42] <HavoK> dohpaz: ok, so you don't want spatial mode
[09:42] <techii> dohpaz: agreed
[09:42] <anacron> techii, it has been installed in this machine
[09:42] <nightswim> inemo: type "which python"
[09:43] <bluefoxicy> HavoK, dohpaz, Tsukasa:  System->Preferences->File Managment::Behavior
[09:43] <anacron> thenuke, thanks
[09:43] <bluefoxicy> Tsukasa:  .hack?
[09:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok i have tryed everything i could with my limeted knowledge of linux
[09:43] <HavoK> dohpaz: check the flag always_use_brwoser
[09:43] <HavoK> i'm useing that =)
[09:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and i still cannot wright to the damn drive >.<
[09:43] <techii> spatial mode alone is ok, but closing the parent window, becomes a problem
[09:43] <Tsukasa> bluefoxicy, aye
[09:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i'm about to through it acrost the rom >.<
[09:43] <dohpaz> HavoK, no_ubuntu_spatial reverts it to the defacto spatial; meaning when I open a folder it opens that folder, without closing the parent. ^_^
[09:43] <itz> Hey plzz are there any ftp servers thats easy to setup? im used to proftp but i cant install it properly and it keeps complaining when im trying to reinstall it
[09:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> room even
[09:43] <bluefoxicy> HavoK, dohpaz, Tsukasa:  There's a flag "Always open in browser" right there you can do without running gnome's regedit app :P
[09:44] <dohpaz> bluefoxicy, thank you, I did not see that option when exploring the UI.
[09:44] <HavoK> bluefoxicy: i didn't know that =)
[09:44] <Tsukasa> bluefoxicy, messing with the editor is more fun ;D
[09:44] <nightswim> can I tell gnome to allow windows to be placed higher than the top of the screen?
[09:44] <nightswim> when I drag them using alt-lmb
[09:44] <tmdca> Hi. Where do i change the port and such settings in gnome bittorrent? o.O
[09:44] <bluefoxicy> Tsukasa:  as is adding 'alias gregedit32.exe=gconf-editor' to ~/.bashrc
[09:44] <techii> ok, does anyone know if there is a package for python syntax highlighting for vim?
[09:44] <ateves> has anyone some experiences with kdecheckgmail under ubuntu?
[09:45] <bionic> when making the kernel with make kpkg, where does the .deb file store? I cant find it in the current dir, and not in /usr/src/ .. anyone please?
[09:45] <dohpaz> bluefoxicy, The File Management interface doesn't have an option to revert to standard spatial, and I do not wish to use the old browsing behavior. fyi
[09:45] <bluefoxicy> dohpaz: ?  what is standard spatial?  :)
[09:45] <scope> anyone have problems with grub not loading after install?
[09:46] <nightswim> techii: /usr/share/vim/vim63/syntax/python.vim
[09:46] <inemo> nightswim: which python returns /usr/bin/python      i set the top of the file to #!/usr/bin/python         then it gives me the error "error: invalid Python installation: unable to open /usr/lib/python2.4/config/MakeFile (No such file or directory)"       any ideas?
[09:46] <techii> bluefoxicy: the same type of window that ubuntu uses, but it keeps the parent window
[09:46] <techii> nightswin: thanks
[09:46] <scope> exit
[09:46] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> how do i create a mountpoint for hdb1?
[09:47] <scope> mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/mounts
[09:47] <bluefoxicy> dohpaz, techii:  Oh, that's an option?
[09:47] <scope> or whatever you wanta mount it to
[09:47] <dohpaz> bluefoxicy, what I mean is that by default in hoary (afiak), if you go to Places->Computer->Filesystem and click on [for example]  /mnt, it will open /mnt in a new window, and automatically close the parent window. Meaning, to go back to /, I have to go to File->Open Parent. Checking no_ubuntu_spatial in Gconf will disable this behavior, allowing me to open /mnt without closing /. Make more sense?
[09:47] <Whistler> where i can find ubuntu packages list?
[09:48] <bluefoxicy> dohpaz: um, I just hit back
[09:48] <Whistler> where i can find ubuntu packages list?
[09:48] <dohpaz> bluefoxicy, by default there is no 'back' to hit. ^_^
[09:48] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ne@FoamY:~$ sudo  mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/Storage
[09:48] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> mount: mount point /mnt/Storage does not exist
[09:48] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> shane@FoamY:~$
[09:48] <bluefoxicy> dohpaz:  oh, then check that box?  :)
[09:48] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> what am i doin wrong here >.<
[09:49] <inemo> nightswim: any ideas?
[09:49] <Whistler> comme on ppl
[09:49] <Whistler> where i can find ubuntu packages list?
[09:49] <bimberi> Whistler: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/allpackages
[09:49] <pollicina> qualche italiano?
[09:49] <Whistler> thx
[09:49] <LED_scorched> hey all
[09:50] <dohpaz> bluefoxicy, I udnerstand I can simply disable it, but I was wondering why ubuntu by default does it, and doesn't offer an intuitive way to do it for people who _know nothing about linux or gnome_, thus making it more difficult for them to navigate without possible hours of searching. :)
[09:51] <tmdca> Hi. Where do i change the port and such settings in gnome bittorrent? o.O
[09:51] <bimberi> ChurcH_of_FoamY: You need to "sudo mkdir /mnt/Storage" first
[09:51] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh ok
[09:51] <pollicina> anyone can help me with jre installation?
[09:52] <LED_scorched> say... linux newbie here. anyways, i got an urge to try making a server... just because.. so, would i be over my head?
[09:52] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> bimberi it gives me the same error still
[09:52] <LED_scorched> i'v ehad a few desktops and used them til i was mostly confy with it...but still
[09:53] <ubuntu_> sup all
[09:53] <bimberi> ChurcH_of_FoamY: that's unusual - no typos?
[09:54] <vladuz976> does anybody here know much about shell scripts?
[09:54] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> no no typos
[09:54] <bimberi> ChurcH_of_FoamY: ... such as case sensitivity
[09:54] <bimberi> ChurcH_of_FoamY: k
[09:54] <zenlunatic> is there a way to get aim encryption for gaim?
[09:55] <bimberi> pollicina: See here ...
[09:55] <bimberi> !java
[09:55] <ubotu> java is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java
[09:55] <alex_-_> hello world! how can i see if acpi is available? i write acpi_available, but there isn't the answer .
[09:55] <Seveas> zenlunatic, gaim-encryption
[09:55] <inemo> !python
[09:55] <ubotu> inemo: Are you smoking crack?
[09:55] <freddy_> hello0o0o0o0o0o0o0!!!!
[09:56] <Whistler> HiI
[09:56] <luzbelricota> hi downloaded 3 themes but wich file i must select in themes menu (gnome) for install it ???
[09:56] <Whistler> :)
[09:56] <inemo> ubotu: of course
[09:56] <ubotu> inemo: Are you smoking crack?
[09:56] <inemo> dumb bot :p
[09:57] <zenlunatic> Seveas: okay i installed it so how do i start it?
[09:57] <malakhi> dohpaz: there was a pretty big debate about that when Hoary first shipped. Shuttleworth feels that it is a change for the better, and i guess it's really his call. I imagine Breezy will incorporate a way to fix it (I hope)
[09:57] <jasoncohen> firestarter doesn't appear to be working properly with UDP ports. i can't block access to webmin on UDP port 10000. i can block TCP ports like SSH fine.
[09:57] <freddy_> is a bot?
[09:57] <luzbelricota> hi downloaded 3 themes but wich file i must select in themes menu (gnome) for install it ???
[09:57] <Tatster> is there any equivalent to Redhat's up2date command line app to update a system to all latest version of installed apps?
[09:57] <freddy_> !python
[09:57] <ubotu> freddy_: I don't know
[09:57] <freddy_> lol
[09:57] <freddy_> ubotu: of course
[09:57] <ubotu> I don't know, freddy_
[09:57] <mats> !c
[09:57] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, mats
[09:57] <alex_-_> hello world! how can i see if acpi is available? i write acpi_available, but there isn't the answer .
[09:57] <freddy_> bah...i dont get the crack thing
[09:57] <jasoncohen> zenlunatic, aim encryption? you can use gaim-encryption or gaim-otr
[09:57] <Seveas> stop abusing the bot
[09:58] <Seveas> zenlunatic, check the gaim options
[09:58] <freddy_> im not raping the bot
[09:58] <inemo> freddy_: you're not special ;)
[09:58] <inemo> how do I go about installing python-dev
[09:58] <freddy_> haha
[09:58] <inemo> !rape
[09:58] <ubotu> No idea, inemo
[09:58] <mats> !ubuntu
[09:58] <ubotu> hmm... ubuntu is http://www.ubuntolinux.org or FAQ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[09:58] <dohpaz> malakhi, I'm just thinking from the standpoint of a non-Linux/Gnome user who doesn't know what spatial is, doesn't know what upstream means, has no clue about gconf, and wouldn't think to associate the word Parent with the previous folder they were in. Being a long-time Linux/Gnome user, I easily found my way around, but beginniners would be lost in a sea of technical jargon, and feel less comfortable with an otherwise useful syste
[09:58] <dohpaz> m. :)
[09:58] <Seveas> inemo, aptitude install python2.4-dev
[09:58] <jasoncohen> zenlunatic, gaim-encryption uses RSA keys to encrypt & sign each message. gaim-otr uses a more complex system where each message is encrypted seperately with a temporal key which is then purged
[09:59] <inemo> Seveas: thanks
[09:59] <inemo> gtg go get my hair cut, brb
[09:59] <Seveas> 8<
[09:59] <dohpaz> malakhi, I look forward then to breezy, if it does give a concise option to disable this.
[09:59] <jasoncohen> zenlunatic, gaim-encryption is in hoary. gaim-otr is in breezy.
[10:00] <golgor> can anyone pls help me troubleshot my soundproblem... i dont get any sound even though i installed the drivers
[10:00] <jasoncohen> anyone else having problems with firestarter & UDP ports?
[10:00] <malakhi> dohpaz: oh, i totally agree with you. I think it was poor decision myself. Like you, i was able to fix it fairly easily, but the point is, I shouldn't have had to in the first place.
[10:00] <s1m0> hi
[10:00] <mats> thanks, Seveas :)
[10:00] <s1m0> how i can set an icon for the user when i log-in whit gdm?
[10:01] <freddy_> hehe i just used the trigger once, and i got the same punishment as someone that used it 4 times. hehe.
[10:01] <s1m0> *with
[10:01] <Seveas> s1m0, name it ~/.face
[10:01] <Seveas> (iirc, have to check)
[10:01] <freddy_> i love fairness
[10:01] <freddy_> :)
[10:01] <zenlunatic> jasoncohen: i installed gaim-encryption on hoary but can't figure out how it works
[10:01] <s1m0> Seveas, thanks i try
[10:01] <dohpaz> malakhi, well I think I understand why the decision was made: to allieviate having multiple folders open (a once large complaint about how spatial works by design). But not very intuitive at all.
[10:02] <malakhi> aye
[10:02] <jasoncohen> zenlunatic, it's quite easy to use, just create a key and set it to check if other users are using the plugin. that way it'll automatically be enabled if your friends are using it
[10:02] <zenlunatic> jasoncohen: how?
[10:02] <dohpaz> Now, opening new folders in the existing window and having a way to move up (without reverting to browser mode) would, I feel, solve everyone's problems. ;)
[10:02] <golgor> anyone wanna help me with getting the sound to work?
[10:03] <freddy_> golgor chipset?
[10:03] <jasoncohen> zenlunatic, from gaim- choose tools > preferences > and enable gaim-encryption
[10:03] <s1m0> an other question: how i can change the psw when i tape sudo?
[10:03] <golgor> freddy_, Nforce 2
[10:03] <jasoncohen> zenlunatic, then choose the Gaim-Encryption option under Plugins on the left pane.
[10:03] <malakhi> dohpaz: I just saw on GNOME footnotes a preview for the new nautilus interface. It looks pretty good, and seems to address a lot of the concerns about spatial. Should be interesting when it ships
[10:03] <zenlunatic> jasoncohen: there is no arrow to go to "enable gaim-encryption"
[10:04] <jasoncohen> zenlunatic, arrow?
[10:04] <jasoncohen> zenlunatic, just check the box next to Gaim-Encryption
[10:04] <dohpaz> malakhi, really? i don't ever remember seeing that... do you remember about when that article came out?
[10:04] <malakhi> yesterday or today.
[10:04] <Seveas> s1m0, for the photo: gdmphotosetup
[10:04] <malakhi> dohpaz: i'll try to find the link... hang on a sec
[10:04] <steve-o> !seen oliwer
[10:04] <ubotu> oliwer<EMAIL_ADDRESS>was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 48m 10s ago, saying: '..'.
[10:04] <Seveas> s1m0, sudo wants your password, so to change it, change your pw :)
[10:05] <zenlunatic> jasoncohen: oh i didn't restart gaim
[10:05] <jasoncohen> zenlunatic, installing the plugin isn't enough for gaim. you need to enable the plugin so it's used. gaim-encryption will then create an RSA Key for you.
[10:05] <dohpaz> LOL, it got published after my last visit. ^_^
[10:05] <golgor> freddy_, isnt there any way to let ubuntu search for possible drivers or something
[10:05] <jasoncohen> zenlunatic, that would help :)
[10:05] <golgor> think i did that last time, i did some help guide which made it to work
[10:05] <s1m0> Seveas, i changed the root pasw, but now the root's psw != sudo's psw
[10:05] <malakhi> dohpaz: http://gnomedesktop.org/node/2312
[10:05] <malakhi> oh, yeah
[10:05] <jasoncohen> zenlunatic, so enable the plugin and then in the plugin config screen make sure you have "broadcast encryption capability" and "automatically encrypt if buddy has plugin" enabled
[10:05] <malakhi> : )
[10:05] <Seveas> s1m0, of course
[10:05] <Seveas> s1m0, it never is
[10:05] <Seveas> s1m0: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[10:06] <s1m0> Seveas, thenks very much!
[10:06] <Seveas> on Ubuntu you need no root password
[10:06] <s1m0> Seveas, i would root :P
[10:06] <golgor> nikkia, are you there?
[10:06] <steve-o> maan , am i crazy or what?! how to delete files in terminal ?!
[10:07] <golgor> rm
[10:07] <steve-o> :)))
[10:07] <skora> steve-o, use the command rm
[10:07] <golgor> i asked that earlier today too steve-o :)
[10:07] <steve-o> i tried "rem" , del , remove , delete ..
[10:07] <steve-o> :))
[10:07] <skora> using 'man rm'
[10:07] <skora> will give more details
[10:07] <steve-o> i know , thanks
[10:07] <steve-o> :)
[10:08] <zenlunatic> jasoncohen: thanks for your help
[10:08] <golgor> Seveas, do you know if there is any troubleshot built in ubuntu?
[10:08] <jasoncohen> zenlunatic, np
[10:08] <zenlunatic> jasoncohen: unfortunatly the encryption isn't compatible with aol im encryption for windows
[10:08] <bimberi> steve-o: Using "man -k <keyword>" can sometimes help with finding commands
[10:09] <waterl00> re
[10:09] <RichardC> where can i find a ubuntu deb package for the ati fglrx 8.14.13 xorg drivers?
[10:09] <waterl00> what is the preferred cd/dvd burning prog for you?
[10:09] <Seveas> if that isn't in linux-restricted-modules: then no where
[10:09] <Seveas> ^-- RichardC
[10:09] <Tatster> what is the best way to keep an Ubuntu box up to date with updates etc?
[10:09] <skora> i use k3b
[10:10] <jasoncohen> zenlunatic, i didn't know aol had encryption in AIM
[10:10] <RichardC> Seveas: i dont understand
[10:10] <zenlunatic> jasoncohen: there is some third party plugin
[10:10] <jasoncohen> zenlunatic, if it's anything like the crap in trillian i wouldn't use it anyways
[10:10] <waterl00> i am using gnome..is there a similar to k3b for gnome?#
[10:10] <manaz> xcdroast ?
[10:10] <jasoncohen> zenlunatic, trillian's "Secure IM" doesn't do any authentication so you encrypt traffic but have no assurance of who you're talking to
[10:10] <Seveas> RichardC, fglrx is in the linux-restricted-modules package and in xorg-driver-fglrx
[10:10] <bimberi> waterl00: gnomebaker, graveman and nautilus
[10:10] <zenlunatic> jasoncohen: i see
[10:11] <I-IIEars> skora - If you wanted a program to make a bootable disk from a file tree what app can do that?
[10:11] <Seveas> both are needed
[10:11] <jasoncohen> zenlunatic, gaim-encryption authenticates based on the RSA key and gaim-otr does the same but also provides perfect forward secrecy
[10:11] <jasoncohen> i use gaim-otr
[10:11] <skora> I-IIEars, hmm...i actually forget.
[10:12] <ateves> is anyone using ,mail-notification for his/her gmail account?
[10:12] <^thehatsrule^> i am :P
[10:12] <ateves> so it works?
[10:12] <olmo> i have a problem if i log in i get an error saying "an already loaded panel was detected, execution halted". When i click ok it just appears again. It doesn't show up when i start gnome in safe modus tho. How do i get rid of it?
[10:12] <^thehatsrule^> but its on windows
[10:12] <^thehatsrule^> lol
[10:12] <waterl00> is xcdroast still unstable as it was ?
[10:13] <ateves> ok, is anyone using GNOME mail-notification for his/her gmail account?
[10:13] <ateves> ^^
[10:13] <joseph> How do I give a user permissions to more files?
[10:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anyone here good at formatting and installing new hard drives plz pm me i could really use your help
[10:13] <^thehatsrule^> try gaim?
[10:13] <Seveas> joseph, chmod
[10:13] <cmatheson> joseph, man chmod
[10:13] <^thehatsrule^> i pretty sure theres a plugin for gmail there
[10:13] <Seveas> but use with care
[10:13] <joseph> Thanks...
[10:13] <Seveas> ChurcH_of_FoamY, mkfs formats them
[10:14] <jeroen_> ChurcH_of_FoamY, sure
[10:14] <Seveas> mount mounts them
[10:14] <jeroen_> ChurcH_of_FoamY, are you partitioning them or what?
[10:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yes
[10:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i used qtparted
[10:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and made an ext3 partition
[10:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and formated it and commited the changes
[10:14] <jasoncohen> zenlunatic, the way i see it- if you find it necessary to use encryption- you should use strong encryption with as much protection as possible- and that usually rules out the joke commercial options that are there to make people feel safe but which in actuality do little more than scramble the data
[10:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> then i made the nessisary changes to my fstab
[10:15] <pinko> I have a question on win32 codecs in avifile/aviplay.  but I can see this channel is already full of them
[10:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> but it still will not let me wright to the hard drive
[10:15] <steve-o> I need help about this theme "Q: How to install Multimedia Codecs?"
[10:15] <jasoncohen> zenlunatic, gaim-otr provides perfect forward secrecy and deniability as well as authentication through an RSA key and optionally through a secure ID if you're paranoid
[10:16] <steve-o> he can't find gstreamer0.8-lame , and some others codecs ;|
[10:16] <steve-o> writes
[10:16] <pollicina> anyone can help me with jre uninstallation?
[10:16] <jasoncohen> zenlunatic, the encryption is done point to point so no one but you and the person you're speaking to can decode the message and once a new message is sent it can't be retreived ever
[10:16] <steve-o> root@ubuntu:/ # sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-lame
[10:16] <steve-o> Reading package lists... Done
[10:16] <steve-o> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:16] <steve-o> E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-lame
[10:17] <jeroen_> steve-o, it's in multiverse
[10:17] <jeroen_> because it's patent-encumbered
[10:17] <steve-o> so , what should I do with lame encoder?
[10:17] <steve-o> :(
[10:17] <Seveas> ChurcH_of_FoamY, chown/chmod can help there
[10:17] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> seveas ok can you teach me how to use those commands?
[10:18] <^thehatsrule^> man chmod
[10:18] <Seveas> chown user:group file_or_dilname
[10:18] <Seveas> read the manpages, they are really helpful in this case
[10:18] <cello> hello everybody. I'm having problem with network. can anyone help me ? I've installed two ethernet interfaces. one of them give me internet conection (eth0); other (eth1) connect with a second machine. I'm trying to share the internet conection but: when i active eth1 I lost the connection with internet...
[10:19] <topyli> polliciana: how did you install?
[10:19] <ateves> oh there has to be a way to be notified about new gmail emails under gnome
[10:19] <Seveas> cello, install firestarter
[10:19] <topyli> cello: yes, firestarter is the easy way
[10:20] <I-IIEars> cello - Firestarter firewall adds a graphical interface. - it made it a lot easier for a newb like me.
[10:20] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok i will thank you
[10:20] <olmo> i think ubuntu starts gnome-panel twice when it loads. How would i check this?
[10:20] <Seveas> olmo, ps
[10:20] <cello> just apt-get it and configure it, that's all ?
[10:20] <olmo> also, it doesn't appear to happen when i start in safe mode
[10:20] <Seveas> cello, yes
[10:21] <cello> ok, thanks guys ! you are great !
[10:21] <olmo> Seveas, the second gnome-panel doesn't start but gives an error and tries to start itself (endlessly)
[10:21] <I-IIEars> cello - it's in universe communitty supported
[10:21] <pollicina> manually
[10:21] <pollicina> pollicina downloaded jre-1-5-etc from sun and ./jre-1-etc but it causes me some troubles and i'd like to remove it
[10:21] <Seveas> olmo, odd
[10:21] <malakhi> ateves: I've used the mail-notification program. It works with gmail pretty well.
[10:21] <Seveas> use `ps f -e | less` to see who launches it
[10:22] <topyli> pollicina: it's pretty much just about removing the installation directory, probably somewhere like /usr/lib/java
[10:22] <topyli> pollicina: possibly "java" links in /usr/bin, and mozilla plugins
[10:22] <cello> I've read elsewhere that ubuntu doesn't came with a firewall. is it true ? in this case firestarter should be installed among iptables ?
[10:22] <pollicina> topyli u mean i've simply to cancel the directory?
[10:23] <topyli> pollicina: delete /usr/lib/java/jre-whatever-you-have
[10:23] <Seveas> cello, iptables is part of the kernel :)
[10:23] <Seveas> and Ubuntu of course has it
[10:23] <ateves> malakhi: yes, i installed it too, but it always tells me: bad request
[10:23] <cello> ok, sure.
[10:23] <I-IIEars> Wine "Whine" - It's asking to set font size with a registry value. A working Wine config pasted to pastebin would be really helpful...  :)
[10:24] <pollicina> are u sure topyli? no probs as under windows?
[10:24] <topyli> pollicina: no guarantees :) but that's how java installs in linux.
[10:24] <malakhi> ateves: I'm not sure what's up with that. I stopped using it a little while ago (wasn't really needed).
[10:24] <luzbelricota> can anyone told me how to ad a skin to xmms please ???
[10:24] <luzbelricota> i downloaded it
[10:24] <luzbelricota> but i dont know how install
[10:25] <goldfish> luzbelricota: what format is it in?
[10:25] <topyli> pollicina: maybe someone can confirm before you do it, or at least google
[10:25] <goldfish> luzbelricota: tar.gz ?
[10:25] <pollicina> nobody answered me except u... thanks:-)
[10:25] <daile> luzbelricota, you just need to copy the newskin folder to ~/.xmms/Skins/
[10:26] <daile> luzbelricota, new skin folder means the folder contains your new skin
[10:26] <Proteque> how do I burn with cdrecord in 2.6? not using scsi-emulation anymore I cant run -scanbus
[10:26] <topyli> pollicina: this will probably leave a link called "java" in /usr/bin. delete it too
[10:26] <topyli> it will be a dead link anyway
[10:27] <I-IIEars> ubotu are you awake?
[10:27] <ubotu> I-IIEars: I give up, what is it?
[10:33] <opirg> Hey - anyone know of a good program for creating bookmarks?
[10:34] <Seveas> firefox
[10:34] <daile> yeah a browser
[10:34] <opirg> ie.: we want an image, say 3 by 5 inches, with some text over it, and we need to place the text around the image
[10:34] <Seveas> ah ok
[10:34] <opirg> no, not web bookmarks, a paper bookmark that we want to design and print
[10:34] <Seveas> gimp perhaps
[10:34] <opirg> yeah, we are using the Gimp but it's a little difficult
[10:35] <jeroen_> yeah, gimp is way too difficult ;-)
[10:35] <brion> yay, security update for PEAR::XML_RPC has a random character causing a parse error :D
[10:36] <golgor> can anyone help me troubleshot my audio, i cant get it to work
[10:37] <daile> golgor, have you tried the instruction in the Ubuntu unofficial guide?
[10:37] <golgor> hmm?
[10:37] <daile> golgor, http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly
[10:37] <golgor> i searched the wiki and couldnt find anything
[10:37] <Seveas> golgor wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[10:38] <Seveas> daile, these instructions are utter crap
[10:38] <Seveas> do NOT foolow OR advise ubuntuguide
[10:38] <Seveas> and especially that section is crap
[10:38] <cmatheson> what exactly is up w/ ubuntuguide... is it out of date, or just lame?
[10:38] <seth_k> lame
[10:38] <Seveas> just lame
[10:38] <topyli> incorrect
[10:38] <daile> Seveas, haha yeah? I didn't know that! After a bunch of tweaks, I dont' know what makes it work LOL
[10:38] <TokenBad> wow installed the firestarter firewall on here and man the windows msg spam stuff has increased alot
[10:38] <Seveas> cmatheson: Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 3 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.
[10:38] <TokenBad> got 300 attempts on the port in an hour
[10:39] <cmatheson> Seveas, ok
[10:39] <nickw>  /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3.4' not found (required by
[10:39] <nickw> anyone know a package to fix the above error?
[10:39] <Seveas> nickw, don't use packages/binaries made for debian
[10:39] <anacron> is there a way to change utf-8 for something else in x-chat without disconnecting?
[10:39] <Seveas> anacron, no
[10:39] <golgor> ehhh Seveas, what the hell is this soundproblem hoary?
[10:40] <nickw> the program throwing that error is some custom built program I am looking at for work, no idea what it is compiled for
[10:40] <Seveas> nickw, then compile ot yourself
[10:40] <Seveas> it is built for a more recent glibc than Ubuntu has
[10:40] <golgor> i installed the drivers but it seems ubuntu cant find the device
[10:41] <Seveas> golgor, what kind of device..?
[10:41] <nickw> Seveas, I don't have source for this package. Are you saying ot build glibc from source?
[10:41] <Seveas> nickw, ouchm you cannot use the program then
[10:41] <Seveas> only on Breezy
[10:41] <nickw> ok, thanks
[10:41] <golgor> when i go to the volumecontrol is says "No volumecontrol elements and/or devices was found"
[10:41] <Seveas> maybe you can get a binary built against glibc 2.3.2
[10:42] <Seveas> golgor, what is your soundcard type? and is it pci?
[10:42] <golgor> no, integrated
[10:42] <daile> Seveas, how come you hate  ubuntuguide so much? I think it's sometimes useful though and it's updated quite often...
[10:42] <golgor> nforce 2
[10:42] <cmatheson> daile, look at the link he just gave me
[10:43] <Seveas> daile, see that url
[10:43] <Seveas> it is no guide
[10:43] <Seveas> guides give information
[10:43] <golgor> Seveas, i know last time i tested ubuntu i got the sound to work without any problem
[10:43] <Seveas> and the instructions are crap
[10:43] <Seveas> good luck updating when you follow these
[10:43] <golgor> i used some kind of guide in ubuntu which found the soundcard and everything went find
[10:43] <golgor> *fine
[10:43] <daile> Seveas, cmatheson thanks I see it now!
[10:43] <Seveas> I've spent hours in here helping people recovering from ubuntuguide created problems...
[10:44] <golgor> haha
[10:44] <cmatheson> golgor, what kind of sound card do you have?
[10:44] <golgor> cmatheson, integrated nforce2
[10:44] <daile> Seveas, cmatheson I dont usually need that ubuntuguide anyway, but I thought it's helpful.
[10:44] <golgor> and it wont work even though i installed the drivers and everyting
[10:44] <cmatheson> is that the same card that ubuntu set up for you last time?
[10:45] <cmatheson> golgor, did you turn up the volume?
[10:45] <golgor> cmatheson, i cant turn up the volume
[10:45] <golgor> it dont find any volume elements or devices
[10:45] <cmatheson> what does it say when you load the module?
[10:45] <jeroen_> golgor, upper right corner
[10:46] <golgor> ?
[10:46] <golgor> clock and date
[10:46] <golgor> only
[10:47] <golgor> damnit, this sucks
[10:48] <jeroen_> golgor, right mouse button -> add to panel
[10:48] <golgor> yea
[10:48] <golgor> and add volume control
[10:48] <golgor> nothing happens
[10:49] <golgor> the problem isnt really the volume, rather that ubuntu cant find my sound device or something...
[10:50] <cmatheson> golgor: so what does it say when you try to load the module for the nforce?
[10:50] <eruin> oooh, gnome-panel has support for "blinking" in breezy ;)
[10:51] <Seveas> eeeek
[10:51] <golgor> load module?
[10:51] <cmatheson> eruin, what is blinking?
[10:51] <jasoncohen> is there a way to start firestarter without root privileges in order to see blocked connections
[10:51] <Seveas> eruin, I hope it has support for disabling that too
[10:51] <cmatheson> golgor, have you loaded the module for your sound card?
[10:51] <eruin> cmatheson, notifications when an app has news for you
[10:51] <eruin> ala WM URGENT
[10:51] <cmatheson> eruin: ooooh
[10:51] <golgor> i have no idea how to do... i asked several times but no one seems to know :P
[10:51] <cmatheson> eruin: like that ghetto blue blinking when new internet windows pop up in windows?
[10:52] <golgor> i started using ubuntu yesterday, im a total newb :P
[10:52] <eruin> that gnome.org bug has been on there for years
[10:52] <Seveas> cmatheson, yes :(
[10:52] <cmatheson> golgor: ok, hold up
[10:52] <cmatheson> Seveas: arg
[10:52] <eruin> cmatheson, no, it
[10:52] <eruin> it
[10:52] <eruin> it's a tad more pretty, but in essence the same I guess
[10:52] <eruin> (and I have trouble using my new lappy keybard)
[10:53] <cmatheson> golgor: i think you need binary drivers for that nforce junk... do you have 3d acceleration working yet?
[10:54] <Deft> does anyone have any news on when breezy will be a sensible option for someone who is bored and on holiday?
[10:54] <golgor> i got the binary drivers, and installed them
[10:54] <jeroen_> Deft, now?
[10:54] <cmatheson> golgor: ok, so is the 3d accel working?
[10:54] <jeroen_> you can file bugs all day! Gone is your boredom :-)
[10:54] <golgor> and no, i haven't installed any graphic drivers yet
[10:54] <cmatheson> golgor: oh ok
[10:54] <eruin> Deft, colony2 is out, and xorg is back to normal, so this is probably as good a time as any
[10:54] <Deft> excellent, might just give that a go then
[10:54] <cmatheson> golgor: try loading the nvaudio module (modprobe nvaudio)
[10:54] <Deft> thanks
[10:55] <jeroen_> Deft, better install it on a separate partition though, just in case
[10:55] <golgor> cmatheson, how?
[10:55] <eruin> Deft, though the 2.6.12 kernel is a mountain of trouble to me
[10:55] <Deft> jeroen_, a good idea, but I don't have enough disk for that, it's all or, most likely, nothing
[10:55] <brion_> https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12426 <- fatal parse error in security update package
[10:55] <eruin> I have to use the old hoary kernel :/
[10:56] <jeroen_> Deft, well, :/ be warned!
[10:56] <cmatheson> golgor: type 'sudo modprobe nvaudio' at the command prompt
[10:56] <Deft> jeroen_, always am, I've already broken my install once back near the start of breezy :)
[10:56] <eruin> it
[10:57] <eruin> it's good to be back in a daily package updates state ;)
[10:57] <siorfin> question regarding a bootup issue
[10:57] <golgor> cmatheson, FATAL: nvaudio not found
[10:57] <siorfin> failsafe check failed please repair manually and reboot & unattached inode, root partition
[10:58] <siorfin> anyone know how to fix this,
[10:58] <arentie> does anyone know how to fix hibernating?
[10:58] <cmatheson> golgor: ok, you don't have the binary sound drivers
[10:59] <siorfin> i have seen fsck /target as solution but i have no clue how to login as root and use it since root use is disabled
[10:59] <cmatheson> golgor: i don't know that there is a ubuntu package... you may have to search around nvidia's website (go to the linux section and download the nforce stuff)
[11:00] <Burgundavia> cmatheson, nforce2?
[11:00] <golgor> ahh, wait a sec... the binary drivers gave me an error, got a tip from nikkia to install another kind of drivers, a .run
[11:00] <cmatheson> Burgundavia: yeah
[11:00] <Burgundavia> cmatheson, those work ootb, or they should
[11:00] <Burgundavia> cmatheson, no need for binary junk
[11:00] <cmatheson> Burgundavia: hmm, golgor's aren't working
[11:01] <cmatheson> Burgundavia: what module is it supposed to use?
[11:01] <Burgundavia> should just work
[11:01] <cmatheson> Burgundavia: and if it doesn't?
[11:01] <cmatheson> Burgundavia: do you run that chipset?
[11:01] <dnakata> hmmm
[11:01] <siorfin> so anyone know how to fix bootup issues involving the root partition, says problems basically then does a forced check then cant complete it and says to manual repair as root but i cant login as root since root is disabled, how do i fix this?
[11:01] <Burgundavia> I have 2 nforce2 boards that I have run, and both worked ootb
[11:02] <s1m0> see tou
[11:02] <cmatheson> siorfin: you could reboot in single user mode
[11:02] <s1m0> Seveas, thanks!
[11:02] <siorfin> ok how do i reboot in single user mode?
[11:02] <golgor> Burgundavia, mine wont work
[11:02] <ompaul> siorfin, if you use the 'rescue' boot option you will end up in single user mode where you can fsck -y the partitions that are not mounted
[11:02] <Burgundavia> golgor, did you do a default install?
[11:03] <cmatheson> siorfin: add 'single' to your kernel command line (or i'm guessing the "rescue" mode in the grub menu is single-user... but i'm not positive (i've never tried it before)
[11:03] <golgor> default ubuntu install yea
[11:03] <ompaul> siorfin, I usually reboot after I do a fsck - you can mount -a but to be honest I always like to check that it is all okay
[11:03] <Burgundavia> golgor, hoary I assume?
[11:03] <golgor> yep
[11:03] <Burgundavia> golgor, which board do you have?
[11:04] <golgor> a7n8x-e deluxe
[11:04] <Burgundavia> hmm
[11:04] <bluefoxicy> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CollapsedPreferences
[11:04] <Burgundavia> and you have no sound?
[11:05] <golgor> no sound at all
[11:05] <Burgundavia> bluefoxicy, there is work upstream about that as well
[11:05] <gbic> Anyone know if dd or mkisofs can make images of the _whole_ / system?
[11:05] <siorfin> ok we tried control-d to go into the grub menu and tried mount to see what /dev/hda# needed to have fcsk but it said invalid command or something
[11:05] <gbic> Im trying to make a bootable backup image of my current setup
[11:06] <bluefoxicy> gbic:  for archive purposes I recommend squashfs.
[11:06] <siorfin> i tried once before to add single to the end of the kernel line to boot into single user mode but it wouldnt save the change, how do i save the change?
[11:06] <golgor> worth a try to reinstall, Burgundavia?
[11:06] <bluefoxicy> gbic:  ah, bootable backup image heh.
[11:06] <bluefoxicy> nevermind me.
[11:06] <bluefoxicy> Burgundavia:  who's working with them.
[11:06] <gbic> yea, thats my goal
[11:06] <gbic> but Im open to alternatives
[11:06] <Burgundavia> bluefoxicy, no idea
[11:07] <gbic> install is easy enough, just want to keep my existing filesystem setup
[11:07] <siorfin> cmatheson, how do i make it save the "single" command to the end of the kernel line, i tried doing this once before for something else but it wouldn't save the change upon reboot
[11:07] <bluefoxicy> Burgundavia:  should I reopen bug 10268?
[11:08] <Burgundavia> bluefoxicy, email the ubuntu-devel mailing list with that wiki page
[11:08] <bluefoxicy> Burgundavia:  it was closed with recommendation that it be discussed on the ML or wiki
[11:08] <bluefoxicy> ok
[11:08] <bluefoxicy> Burgundavia:  openning discussion != reopenning bug for future review after discussion?
[11:09] <Burgundavia> bluefoxicy, bugzilla is for specific stuff like "renamed tab" or "consolidate tab"
[11:09] <Burgundavia> not wholesale stuff like that
[11:09] <bimberi> siorfin: Type "e" in grub to edit the boot commands.  When finished, type "b" to boot using the edited commands
[11:10] <david> why wont it let me emerge "engage-9999" even after ive unmasked the package?
[11:10] <ilpum> I own a LG XFree mp3-player and have some problems with it under Ubuntu 5.4
[11:10] <arentie> I successfully configured my Wifi.  Now, I can't hibernate...can anyone help?
[11:10] <ompaul> siorfin, in the file  /boot/grub/menu.lst there is a value set  for 'timeout' it is the gap at the start when you need to hit a key to stop grub from the usual to get rescue values - Serious question - have you a live cd?
[11:10] <kbrooks> david: offtopic, #gentoo
[11:11] <david> kbrooks, lol sry
[11:11] <ilpum> There does not seem to be any firmware available for Linux but the memory was correctly found as "520M Removable Media"
[11:11] <kbrooks> david: maybe the package is hard masked. #gentoo
[11:11] <[|HuGO|] > hola
[11:11] <ilpum> Problem is, when I delete something, it disappears, but no memory is freed
[11:12] <bluefoxicy> Burgundavia:  sent off.
[11:12] <david> kbrooks, are u in #gentoo?
[11:12] <siorfin> ompaul, no i dont unfortunately and it wouldnt do me any good either way as my cdrom is trashed and my replacement form newegg hasnt arrived yet
[11:12] <siorfin> laptop
[11:12] <kbrooks> david: no, I was hinting you
[11:12] <bluefoxicy> david:  r u a hot grrl?
[11:12] <david> bluefoxicy, only on weekends
[11:13] <kbrooks> david: please go to #gentoo. btw, as much as i like gentoo, i dont like compiling
[11:13] <Deft> did this channel just suddenly go wrong?
[11:13] <siorfin> ompaul, getting to the bootup menu is not the problem, it is set to the default of 2seconds which is plenty of time to hit esc but last time i tried editing the kernel line adding single to the end of the line it didnt save the value, how do i save the value is the question
[11:13] <david> kbrooks, can i pm u, no one will answer me in #gentoo
[11:13] <kbrooks> david: No.
[11:13] <bluefoxicy> kbrooks:  don't do it, he'll bombard you with single letter words
[11:13] <ilpum> Is there any program which is able to format memory connected by usb?
[11:13] <ompaul> siorfin, let me test that with a quick reboot to be 100% certain I think you just type rescue at that point
[11:14] <nalioth> deft <sarcasm>and what brought that comment up?</sarcasm>
[11:14] <david> bluefoxicy, who are u
[11:14] <osiris> Anyone have NForce3 audio working correctly? ie: mic working
[11:14] <kbrooks> david: I kindly request you please join #gentoo.
[11:14] <bimberi> nalioth: :)
[11:15] <bluefoxicy> david:  Someone who didn't come from Yahoo! Instant Messenger.  You need to learn to spell 'you'.
[11:15] <david> kbrooks, im in #gentoo, but can u help me? plz
[11:15] <gotonpo> is there an "ubuntu tested hardware" list on a website somewhere?
[11:15] <gotonpo> google is failing me
[11:16] <nalioth> gotonpo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SupportedHardware
[11:16] <Seveas> wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[11:16] <jeroen_> http://hwdb.ubuntu.com/
[11:16] <Seveas> ah nvm, listen to Nalioth :)
[11:16] <jeroen_> maybe
[11:16] <gotonpo> thank you thank you!
[11:17] <Mez> nalioth: going back for membership tonight?>
[11:18] <dnakata> does anybody here use the xflame screensaver?
[11:19] <dnakata> if so, i have a really neat xbm you can use with it
[11:19] <ompaul> siorfin, what happens is you press escape, you are then provided with a menu, you choose recovery from that
[11:20] <_qos> i downloaded a .patch file, but i dont know how to use... can someone help me?
[11:20] <siorfin> ompaul, ok NOT single user mode?
[11:20] <ompaul> siorfin, it is single user mode that is returned to you
[11:20] <siorfin> ompaul, we chose recovery but it gives the same errors then says enter root or hit control-d
[11:20] <arentie> hibernate...why can't ubuntu hibernate?
[11:20] <siorfin> ompaul, but there is no root password in ubuntu so im stuck
[11:21] <gbic> sudo su -
[11:21] <ompaul> ahhhh
[11:21] <gbic> passwd root
[11:21] <gbic> and change
[11:21] <dsevilla> does breezy eog work?
[11:21] <dsevilla> hi all
[11:21] <ompaul> gbic, the machine is not getting far enough to allow that
[11:21] <gbic> boot in rescue mode?
[11:21] <snowblink> _qos: man patch
[11:21] <ompaul> gbic, trhere is no working cdrom with that box
[11:22] <siorfin> gbic, boot error in rescue mode, enter root password to continue or hit control-d
[11:22] <nalioth> arentie: you are not alone, most users can't hibernate their laptops
[11:22] <gbic> uhh?
[11:22] <ompaul> siorfin, I have no way of helping you with that one
[11:22] <gbic> yea, I cant hibernate mine
[11:22] <osiris> Anyone have NForce3 audio working correctly? ie: mic working
[11:22] <lotia> anyone dual booting with 2 hd's
[11:22] <lotia> primary win xp and secondary ubuntu?
[11:23] <siorfin> if i run the ubuntu install cd and type rescue once i get a working cdrom i should be able to fix it?
[11:23] <jeroen_> lotia, can be done
[11:23] <gbic> yes siorfin
[11:23] <ompaul> siorfin, yes, but you said that the CDrom was not working or at least that was my take on it
[11:23] <lotia> jeroen_: i know it can, but for some reason when i boot windows it messes up grub when grub is installed in the mbr
[11:23] <siorfin> ompaul, the replacement is on its way from newegg, it is in indiana currently
[11:24] <lotia> jeroen_: have you heard of any similar experiences
[11:24] <dsevilla> is eye of gnome (eog) working in breezy? I always get an empty window (no image)
[11:24] <ompaul> siorfin, what is its eta?
[11:24] <jeroen_> lotia, negative
[11:24] <siorfin> honestly i dont know
[11:24] <siorfin> couple days probably
[11:25] <jeroen_> will happen with reinstall, not reboot :/
[11:25] <siorfin> fedex standard shipping so who knows
[11:25] <ompaul> siorfin, do you know anyone with the same machine in your locale?
[11:25] <siorfin> nope
[11:25] <lotia> jeroen_: for some reason whenever i boot into windows, it messes up my mbr
[11:25] <lotia> anyone using the windows bootloader to boot into grub here?
[11:25] <Seveas> lotia, that would be molesting grub ;)
[11:25] <lotia> if so, could you please tell me how you did it. i am going NUTS now.
[11:26] <ompaul> siorfin, well that should be okay when you get the new one
[11:27] <nalioth> lotia: NTLDR is notorious about not wanting to deal iwth linux
[11:27] <aCiD2> im guessing its a bad idea to unmount my root partition in linux?
[11:27] <aCiD2> while im in gnome
[11:27] <nalioth> lotia: try googling "boot manager site:sourceforge.net"
[11:28] <Burgundavia> lotia, you need to do the other way around
[11:29] <vircuser> Hello
[11:31] <harold> Hello again, all
[11:31] <nalioth> harold the mac man?
[11:32] <harold> That would be me!
[11:32] <harold> How do I exit irssi?
[11:32] <goldfish>  /quit
[11:33] <harold> That easy, huh?
[11:33] <goldfish> yes
[11:33] <zukalk> harold,  /exit works too
[11:33] <lotia> Burgundavia: i've tried it, pos windows messes up grub anytime i boot it
[11:33] <Vis> hello everyone, newbie here, need installation help
[11:33] <jeroen_> woops, I tried to help harold!
[11:33] <lotia> man i really hate windows
[11:33] <Seveas> roflol :)
[11:33] <jeroen_> lotia, delete it
[11:34] <Seveas> jeroen_, fool :)
[11:34] <harold> Thanks, zukalk.
[11:34] <jeroen_> Seveas, yep :p
[11:34] <lotia> jeroen_ need it for certain apps
[11:34] <Seveas> lotia, which?
[11:34] <lotia> DVTS client
[11:34] <harold> So, I've managed to install Ubuntu...
[11:34] <lotia> conference xp
[11:34] <Seveas> hmm, I don't even know what DVTS is :)
[11:34] <Native> anyone here use an Inspiron 9300 or an HP zd8000 with Ubuntu?
[11:34] <nalioth> harold: congratulations!
[11:34] <Seveas> conference xp -> gnomemeeting
[11:35] <harold> ...I moved the kernel and initrd.img using sftp yesterday.
[11:35] <harold> noliath: thanks!
[11:35] <nalioth> harold: i hope you're not on ubuntu now
[11:35] <lotia> Seveas: not equivalent. i have to participate in already existing conferences. not like netmeeting.
[11:35] <Seveas> ah ok
[11:35] <harold> noliath: No, I'm not
[11:35] <Vis> Not sure if I'm in the right channel, but need some assistance doing an installation
[11:35] <Seveas> maybe wine runs these applications
[11:35] <harold> noliath: Why do you say that?
[11:35] <nalioth> Vis: what is the problem?
[11:35] <nalioth> harold: visual irc?
[11:35] <lotia> DVTS Is a very high resolution streaming video client
[11:35] <harold> Yes
[11:35] <Seveas> hmm
[11:36] <lotia> needs 30mpbs
[11:36] <Vis> nalioth thank you for responding
[11:36] <lotia> linux client exists, but it really sucks.
[11:36] <Seveas> ouch
[11:36] <Seveas> that's a lot of b/w
[11:36] <nalioth> Vis: the /topic says "Just Ask"
[11:36] <harold> noliath: When I attempto to boot Ubuntu, it reports that it's unable to load X
[11:36] <nalioth> lotia: do you have a high horsepower computer?
[11:36] <Seveas> harold, have you installed Breezy?
[11:36] <nalioth> harold: how much ram do you have?
[11:36] <harold> Seveas: No, Warty
[11:36] <lotia> nalioth > 2ghz
[11:36] <harold> noliath: 64
[11:37] <nalioth> lotia: would qemu be an option?
[11:37] <harold> Warty apparently needs 32, wants 64.
[11:37] <Seveas> harold, why? Hoary is more recent and X works better in it
[11:37] <nalioth> harold: have you run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   to try to find the right way?
[11:37] <zukalk> how do i find out which port is used by Gnome Meeting?
[11:37] <harold> Seveas: I understand Hoary wants 128MB RAM.
[11:37] <lotia> nalioth: unfortunately not i must have true dual boot. also want to know whats causing the problem
[11:37] <lotia> it is driving me totally batty.
[11:37] <Vis> Doing an installation on an old PIII, starts installing, gets to 36% and stays there 'Retrieving nic-firmware-<IP_ADDRESS>-3-386-di'
[11:37] <harold> nalioth: That's just the answer I was looking for!
[11:37] <Seveas> harold, well, if you have that little memory, warty+gnome won't work either
[11:38] <nalioth> lotia: just offering wild-ass options (that might jog someones thinking)
[11:38] <inemo> so how do I install python-dev again?
[11:38] <nalioth> harold: VESA driver is your friend
[11:38] <Seveas> harold, it's xserver-xfree86 on warty
[11:38] <sjoerd> zukalk: the gnomemeeting faq has a lot of info about that
[11:38] <Seveas> not sxerver-xorg
[11:38] <harold> Seveas: What would work?
[11:38] <zukalk> sjoerd, thanks
[11:38] <harold> nalioth: What is VESA driver?
[11:38] <inemo> nalioth: whats the best VNC server again? the built in one I can't connect to..
[11:38] <Seveas> harold, hoary+xfce
[11:38] <sjoerd> susus: http://www.gnomemeeting.org/
[11:38] <nalioth> harold: did you end up with hoary or warty?
[11:38] <lotia> have been attempting to fix it for a week or so and LOVE ubuntu. but have never run into something this annoying.
[11:38] <harold> Seveas: Thank you
[11:38] <Seveas> harold, install hoary with server optioan and install xfce of fluxbox on top
[11:38] <harold> Nalitoth: Warty
[11:38] <lotia> and i'm a reasonably experienced linux user
[11:39] <arentie> unregister_netdevice:waiting for wlan0 to become free. Usage Count = 1
[11:39] <nalioth> most video cards manufactured in teh last 4 years are VESA compliant, meaning the vesa driver will get them going
[11:39] <harold> nalioth: I went with Warty since the RAM requirments appeared to be lower
[11:39] <arentie> does anyone know how to fix this?
[11:39] <nalioth> harold: any reason why not hoary?
[11:39] <Seveas> harold, it actually is the other way around
[11:39] <inemo> so how do I install python-dev again?
[11:39] <Seveas> because for hoary there is XFCE and flubbox
[11:39] <nalioth> harold: like seveas said, you can upgrade to hoary, and run fluxbox or xfce instead of gnome
[11:39] <harold> nalioth: I wasn't certain about the RAM req's, so I went with Warty (which I was certain of)
[11:40] <Seveas> aptitude install python2.4-dev
[11:40] <harold> Seveas: I do have Hoary downloaded...
[11:40] <inemo> thanks Seveas
[11:40] <harold> ...and burned
[11:40] <nalioth> Seveas: is that a fat DM?
[11:40] <inemo> Seveas: run as sudo?
[11:40] <Seveas> inemo, of course :)
[11:40] <nalioth> harold: it's easier to just change your sources and update
[11:40] <inemo> thought it might be
[11:40] <harold> nalioth: I've been reading alot about xfce in the forums this past week or so.
[11:40] <Seveas> nalioth, xfce is moderately fat, fluxbox is thin
[11:40] <harold> nalioth: I'm not afraid to try it (sfce)
[11:41] <hosler> doesnt 'make clean' deinstall the application i installed from souce?
[11:41] <cmatheson> nalioth: i like openbox, it does everything gnome does w/out wasting my ram
[11:41] <harold> Seveas: So fluxbox would be better for 64MB RAM?
[11:41] <hosler> source*
[11:41] <Seveas> hosler, no
[11:41] <Seveas> harold, yes
[11:41] <hosler> Seveas, what is the command to desintall?
[11:41] <cmatheson> hosler: make uninstall
[11:41] <Seveas> hosler, there is none
[11:41] <Seveas> that's why you should have used checkinstall...
[11:42] <nalioth> cmatheson: harold is the one iwth the old-world powerbook
[11:42] <harold> noliath: I'll probably be getting more RAM soon; I picked up some on eBay but the RAM (supposed to be 256) is 128.
[11:42] <cmatheson> nalioth: sorry
[11:42] <cmatheson> harold: i'm running openbox on my laptop w/ 128M, it runs great (even w/ firefox going w/ a bunch of tabs open)
[11:42] <nalioth> harold: everything in its time, i'm amazed ya got the old thang workin
[11:43] <harold> Well, it appears to be...
[11:43] <harold> ...when it boots, however...
[11:43] <cmatheson> harold: just install/run 'docker' so that you can get the system-tray stuff from gnome
[11:43] <harold> ...it stops when attempting to configure X
[11:44] <harold> cmatheson: I currently only have 64MB RAM.
[11:44] <nalioth> harold: running the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 will help you solve that
[11:44] <harold> nalioth: I'm definitely about to do that (plugging in laptop's ethernet)
[11:45] <cmatheson> harold: shouldn't be a big deal (it's obviously going to be slower than a modern computer, but if you run slimmer applications (stay the crap away from the gnome desktop and nautilus), then you'll get by just fine
[11:45] <Gotti> hullo
[11:45] <Seveas> hi
[11:45] <jeroen_> hello
[11:45] <harold> What is the proper shutdown command?
[11:46] <harold> cmatheson: Gotcha
[11:46] <Seveas> shutdown :)
[11:46] <jeroen_> sudo shutdown
[11:46] <cmatheson> harold: shudtown -h now
[11:46] <harold> jeroen: Thank you
[11:46] <jeroen_> man shutdown for info
[11:46] <Seveas> shud town.... hm, is that next to meta city?
[11:46] <Seveas> ;)
[11:46] <cmatheson> haha
[11:46] <Gotti> woooow lol
[11:46] <harold> It's says the system is going to explode NOW!
[11:46] <jeroen_> yep, that's right
[11:47] <nalioth> harold: no, that would be a windows shutdown
[11:47] <harold> jeroen, LOL
[11:47] <cmatheson> harold: don't worry, new hard-drives are cheap these days ;)
[11:47] <harold> cmatheson: I picked up this PowerBook at Goodwill; I hope I don't have to spend too much more
[11:47] <jeroen_> harold, the system is quite inexperienced with these things like 'shutdown'
[11:48] <nalioth> harold: jeroen_ is correct, linux is designed to only be shutdown once a year or so
[11:48] <cmatheson> harold: haha, you're computer's going to be fine
[11:48] <harold> BRB, everyone
[11:48] <nalioth> arentie: Industrial Light & Magic had a linux router running for over 7 years w/o shutting down
[11:48] <Seveas> nalioth, I call that bad security practice
[11:48] <harold> Yes, but what about laptops?  PowerBooks?  They can't sleep forever, can they?
[11:49] <Gotti> its kinda impossible not to shutdown if you have a dual boot sytem tho...
[11:49] <nalioth> bloody hell i hate autocomplete
[11:49] <jeroen_> Seveas, breaking records *is* dangerous, Seveas
[11:49] <nalioth> Seveas: it wasnt connected to the outside, it was internal
[11:49] <Seveas> nalioth, ah ok
[11:49] <Seveas> but still :)
[11:49] <Seveas> uptime is a much over-esteemed statistic
[11:49] <nalioth> harold: sleep as long as they have a trickle of power
[11:49] <harold> Are ethernet cables supposed to be hooked up when the computer is down or asleep?
[11:49] <Seveas> My server never has an uptime of > 2 months
[11:50] <Vis> Installation hangs at 'Retrieving nic-firmware-<IP_ADDRESS>-3-386-di', can anyone help with this
[11:50] <hodgman> alright, I'm trying to change my screen resolution on my desktop, eventhough I have 1600x1280 set in my xorg.conf I can't see the option in the drop down in under settings> preferences> screen resolution
[11:50] <nalioth> harold: depends on the OS
[11:50] <jeroen_> harold, doesn't matter
[11:50] <harold> I've always thought ethernet should be plugged in when the computer is off; at least that's the case with SCSI.
[11:50] <Gotti> who is peer, and why is he resetting my connection?!
[11:50] <nalioth> harold: on OSX, it doesnt matter, and i'm not sure on linux, and if ya plug in with windows sleepin, it'll freak the hell out when it wakes up
[11:51] <harold> So it sounds like Windows actually *wants* to be awake when you plug that cable in.
[11:51] <nalioth> hodgman: running hoary?
[11:51] <hodgman> nalioth: yeah
[11:51] <nalioth> harold: not really
[11:51] <nalioth> harold: if the ethernet isnt present when windows boots up, you have to restart for it to 'see' it
[11:51] <harold> nalioth: Are you on a portable?
[11:51] <nalioth> hodgman: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" from a terminal
[11:51] <dualBhelp> hey all
[11:52] <hodgman> nalioth: will do
[11:52] <hosler> I get 'FATAL: Could not initialize video filters (-vf) or video output (-vo).' when i try to play a dvd in mplayer installed with Synaptic
[11:52] <nalioth> harold: atm, portables are all i own
[11:52] <Gotti> O_O
[11:52] <harold> BRB
[11:52] <nalioth> hosler: ya got your restricted packages installed?
[11:52] <hosler> nalioth: how do i check?
[11:52] <Gotti> wooo finally got this god-forsaken broadcom chip working
[11:53] <Vis> Installation stalls on 'Retrieving nic-firmware-<IP_ADDRESS>-3-386-di'. Any Ideas??
[11:53] <hosler> nalioth: synamptic says i have linux-restricted-modules-386 installed
[11:53] <nalioth> hosler: have you added universe and multiverse to your repositorys?
[11:53] <hosler> nalioth: i have no idea
[11:53] <nalioth> hosler: ok then
[11:54] <nalioths_dog> hosler: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[11:54] <nalioths_dog> hosler: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support
[11:54] <harold> Can power outages screw up your system?
[11:54] <jeroen_> harold, possibly, but the risk isn't that high
[11:54] <cmatheson> harold: not really, journalled file-systems tend to take care of things these days
[11:54] <ttr> does anyone know the name of a unbunto directly installed which a a plane game controlled by the mouse ??
[11:54] <nalioth> harold: yes
[11:54] <dualBhelp> if i from a live cd, in this case sysresccd I run grub --config-file=/whereicopyedit to on the live sestion/menu.lst --no-floppy
[11:54] <harold> Linux isn't a journalled filesystem, is it?
[11:55] <nalioth> ttr: xplane?
[11:55] <dualBhelp> how do i get my boot infomation once grub goes/>
[11:55] <jeroen_> linux isn't a filesystem
[11:55] <keikoz> not linux
[11:55] <dualBhelp> ?
[11:55] <cmatheson> harold: it isn't a journalled filesystem, but there are many journalled filesystems avaliable for linux
[11:55] <keikoz> ext3, one of the filesystems used
[11:55] <hosler> nalioth: it worked when i just downloaded the source and compiled, but i had no sound then. So i decided to uninstall it and use the synaptic version.
[11:55] <jeroen_> ext3 is one of the most-used
[11:55] <harold> ext3 is journalled, keikoz?
[11:55] <ttr> nalioth: maybe i'll search for this one on google thx
[11:55] <keikoz> yes
[11:55] <cmatheson> as is reiserfs, xfs, jfs, etc.
[11:55] <flodine> anyone use teamspeak here mime wont open
[11:55] <harold> keikoz: Good news.
[11:55] <nalioth> hosler: this is not about the file you just told me about
[11:55] <harold> Since I just had two power outages today.
[11:55] <nalioth> hosler: read the URLs my dog sent you
[11:56] <dualBhelp> im basically trying to use grub strate off the cd to boot into ubuntu
[11:56] <dualBhelp> anybody?
[11:56] <dualBhelp> is this possebla?
[11:56] <keikoz> that didnt empeached my motherboard to die ^^
[11:56] <nalioth> dualBhelp: only to boot into the liveCD
[11:57] <madmavric> anybody have problems connecting to shoutcast servers with xmms in here?
[11:57] <jeroen_> madmavric, nope
[11:57] <dualBhelp> nalioth oh so i cant get grub to boot ubnutu with syscd?
[11:57] <jeroen_> not with beep-media-player which is mostly the same
[11:57] <nalioth> dualBhelp: syscd?
[11:57] <madmavric> i can play mp3 format, but for some reason the only internet radio stations i can connect to are ogg format
[11:57] <Seveas> !seen elmo
[11:57] <ubotu> i haven't seen 'elmo', Seveas
[11:57] <Vis> nalioth: any thoughts on my problem?
[11:58] <dualBhelp> nalioth sysresccd.org
[11:58] <dualBhelp> its a live cd
[11:58] <madmavric> everything was working fine yesterday
[11:58] <nalioth> Vis: install from source, using apt
[11:58] <ttr> nalioth: i don't think it's this one . it's more an arcade game
[11:58] <nalioth> Vis: commands are (in a terminal)
[11:58] <dualBhelp> nalioth with lots of resscue tools
[11:58] <omegadc> hello folks
[11:59] <nalioth> Vis: "sudo apt-get build-dep <pkgname>"
[11:59] <madmavric> somehow i must have broken xmms
[11:59] <madmavric> perhaps when i installed audacity
[11:59] <nalioth> Vis: "sudo apt-get source -b <samepkgname>"
[11:59] <omegadc> how do i upgrade gaim?
[11:59] <nalioth> Vis: when complete, "sudo dpkg -i <pkgname.deb>"
[12:00] <nalioth> dualBhelp: i've never heard of it, if you want to fix your grub, check this outhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows


[14:47] <sidi_> I forked a branch, added some commits into my own fork, and I now need to merge new commits from the original parent I forked. What would be the correct command to do this?
[14:49] <fullermd> Just 'bzr merge' should do it.
[14:51] <sidi_> fullermd, thanks! that did it


[00:05] <xubuntu02w> Hi. I have an HP Stream 13 laptop (Celeron CPU, 2 GB memory and 32 GB storage). Would there be a difference between the 32bit or 64bit version of Xubuntu?
[00:11] <gnrp> xubuntu02w: Availability of software
[08:17] <nnarol> Hi! Does anyone know how I can make the selected keyboard layout global, i.e. effective for all windows?
[08:19] <nnarol> I am using Xubuntu 18.04 .
[08:35] <diogenes_> nailyk, right click on thr keyboar icon on the panel > properties > manage layouts > globally
[08:51] <nnarol> diogenes_: Thanks! I should've found it myself.
[10:03] <xubuntu18d> how to asign swap area while installing xubuntu 18.04.2
[10:19] <ducasse> !pm | xubuntu18d
[10:20] <xubuntu18d> ok
[10:20] <xubuntu18d> i am installing xubuntu 18.04.2 but not getting swap area option
[10:21] <xubuntu18d> how to asign swap area?
[10:22] <ducasse> swap should be set up automatically by the installer
[10:24] <diogenes_> ducasse, since when it's set up automatically?
[10:24] <ondondil> Since 17.04 ubuntu uses swap file by default
[10:25] <diogenes_> oh nice because last i was using 16.04, and what size does it make that swap file?
[10:25] <xubuntu18d> thanks man i was browsing half an hour to get solution
[10:31] <ondondil> diogenes_: AFAIK it's no more than 5% of free disk space or 2GiB, whichever is lower
[10:31] <ondondil> but I'm not entirely sure
[10:32] <diogenes_> ondondil, but is that even correct? what if i want more or less or even no swap at all?
[10:35] <ducasse> it's easy to make the swapfile smaller or larger, or just remove it
[10:36] <diogenes_> ducasse, is there a tool for that or an unexperienced user will have to tweaking the fstab and stuff?
[10:37] <ducasse> to turn it off you need to comment it out of the fstab
[10:37] <ducasse> changing the size is a simple command or two
[10:37] <diogenes_> ok, thank you.
[11:41] <xubuntu43d> hey guys i want to install xubuntu on my system with windows 10 as dual boot. I have 60 GB free space. How to make partitions to install Xubuntu18.04.2?
[11:44] <Andrio> Is either operating system already installed?
[11:45] <xubuntu43d> windows 10 is installed
[11:45] <Andrio> I used the Disk Management tool in Windows (Win+X) to free space for the new partition
[11:46] <Andrio> Then you can create the partition, do not format it and format it using the Xubuntu installer
[11:47] <xubuntu43d> I mean how to make boot and home partition size during install.
[11:47] <xubuntu43d> what should be size and which partition i have to make
[11:48] <Andrio> How big's your drive?
[11:49] <Andrio> Mine was an 84 GB/24 GB split, which worked all right
[11:49] <vp11> xubuntu43d: how much RAM does your device have?
[11:49] <Andrio> with Windows being on the 84 GB partition
[11:50] <vp11> as a rule of thumb you will need a root partition (/) a home partition (/home) and swap.
[11:50] <vp11> you can create a swap file manually later I guess, so maybe just root and home partitions.
[11:51] <vp11> as far as I know the Xubuntu installer has an option to decide for itself how it will partition itself and use all of your free space. that's the easier option.
[11:51] <xubuntu43d> Home partition size is 84 on your system
[11:51] <vp11> if you want to optimize, then go manually... root with 15G is more than enough in most cases.
[11:51] <Andrio> well, my PC has a SSD and a HDD, so the home partition is on a different drive altogether
[11:52] <xubuntu43d> I have 1TB HDD
[11:53] <xubuntu43d> when i was trying to install i couldn't see swap area option.
[11:55] <Andrio> Format it as linux-swap
[11:57] <xubuntu43d> You mean i have to write it as linux-swap in place of "/"  or "/home"
[11:57] <Andrio> That's not the format; that's the mount point.
[12:00] <xubuntu43d> where is format
[14:00] <caldarella> ☝ * Hi guys I have update recently xubuntu, and my partition ntfs for the data have a padlock, the folder permission is: Permissions: drwxr-x--- 750 '/media/myuser' while the files inside folder are Permissions: -rwxrwxrwx 777. The files inside can be copied but not deleted! Why?
[14:02] <gnrp> caldarella: I guess it is opened read-only
[14:02] <gnrp> the permissions are set when you mount the file system
[14:05] <caldarella> gnrp the partition is mounting automatically after double clicking the icon on the desktop
[14:05] <caldarella> before everything was ok
[14:05] <brainwash> before?
[14:07] <brainwash> is the changed behavior due to updating to a newer xubuntu release? if yes, from to?
[14:07] <caldarella> brainwash yes, before the latest xubuntu updates
[14:07] <brainwash> 18.04?
[14:08] <caldarella> can it be due to some anomalous behavior of windows 10 since the partition is in ntfs and is also shared with windows?
[14:09] <caldarella> brainwash 18.10
[14:11] <caldarella> the output of this command: grep "[[:space:]]ro[[:space:],]" /proc/mounts
[14:12] <caldarella> "/dev/sda4 /media/myuser/Documents fuseblk ro,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,default_permissions,allow_other,blksize=4096 0 0"
[14:55] <xubuntu23w> hello guys, I installed xubuntu on my system along with windows 10 but i am getting no options to choose xubuntu or windows. I am directly logging in to windows also the partition on which i installed xubuntu is being shown as free space.
[14:56] <brainwash> xubuntu23w: shown as free where?
[14:57] <xubuntu23w> winows disk manager and easeus partition manager
[14:58] <brainwash> windows one is not able to read the filesystem I'd think
[14:58] <xubuntu23w> but i can't even boot xubuntu
[14:59] <Dragon64> @xubuntu23w  Does your Bios have an option to select the partition to boot to? Many have a boot list if you enable the option
[14:59] <brainwash> you could boot the xubuntu ISO again, and use the live session to check if the installed files are present
[14:59] <xubuntu23w> when i am booting to live version and files are present here
[14:59] <brainwash> it's only one hdd/ssd, right?
[15:00] <brainwash> !grub
[15:00] <brainwash> you probably want to read through this
[23:27] <xubuntu56w> Hello, just trying xubuntu in Virtualbox on Windows10, I downloaded appimage of kdenlive, at Xubuntu downloads folder I gave appimage permission to execute, but it will not run, terminal says "error while loading shared libraies: libxcb-keysyms.so.1:cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory""...any ideas, thanks
[23:30] <Spass> hello xubuntu56w, maybe try to install (or reinstall if already present) package named "libxcb-keysyms1"
[23:32] <Spass> is your Xubuntu 64-bit?
[23:33] <Spass> you could also try the Flatpak version
[23:33] <xubuntu56w> thanks for the ideas, yes 64bit, trying Linux for first time today, Xubuntu, so I don't know yet how to install packages
[23:34] <well_laid_lawn> !repos
[23:34] <Spass> xubuntu56w, in terminal run "sudo apt install libxcb-keysyms1"
[23:35] <well_laid_lawn> !package
[23:35] <well_laid_lawn> !Synaptic
[23:35] <Spass> if already installed try "sudo apt install --reinstall libxcb-keysyms1"
[23:37] <xubuntu56w> okay will try that sudo, perhaps do it from terminal while at Home
[23:39] <Spass> also, kdenlive is in the official repositories in 18.10 cosmic
[23:39] <Spass> well, in all of them actually :)
[23:40] <Spass> so "sudo apt install kdenlive" or use some graphical package manager
[23:43] <xubuntu56w>  did sudo apt instal libxcb-ksysyms1 and got this "E; dpkg was interrupted, you must manuall run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem
[23:45] <well_laid_lawn> so run that fi
[23:45] <well_laid_lawn> so run that fix
[23:46] <xubuntu56w> not sure the exact way to run that fix
[23:47] <xubuntu56w> kdenlive appimage is at refactored 19, so I want that not the versions 18, thanks
[23:49] <xubuntu56w> I guess I need to spend some time learning some Linux Xubuntu skills, I thought I could just Vitualbox, Xubuntu, kdenlive appimage, doubleclick and run the appimage, but I'm running into some difficulties
[23:53] <well_laid_lawn> always use the official packages first xubuntu56w
[23:53] <well_laid_lawn> !kdenlive
[23:54] <well_laid_lawn> !info kdenlive
[23:55] <well_laid_lawn> so you need to run   sudo dpkg --configure -a    first
[23:59] <xubuntu75w> back again about the how to run appimages questions, I lost the connection so all those nice references vanished, but thanks for the ideas pointing me to some good resources