[12:11] <unix_infidel> are you on the live cd?
[12:11] <ubuntu__> ya
[12:11] <unix_infidel> IIRC you need to manually mount partitions on the live cd.
[12:12] <unix_infidel> the installer does it for you in dapper.
[12:12] <ubuntu__> how
[12:12] <ubuntu__> no i tried teh installer and i can't find it
[12:12] <ubuntu__> the drive is corrupt
[12:12] <ubuntu__> i wanna get something off of it
[12:12] <ubuntu__> i'm about to RMA it
[12:13] <zorglu_> relax and describe your problem as accuratly as possible, calmly
[12:13] <mamgomez> on toy?????????'
[12:14] <ubuntu__> ok
[12:14] <unix_infidel> http://www.faqs.org/docs/lnag/lnag_drives.html
[12:14] <ubuntu__> ok well it can't access the drive
[12:15] <ubuntu__> i tried formatting and it froze
[12:15] <epsilom> hi, I have problem with krfb
[12:15] <ubuntu__> its like if you access a certain part of the drive it freezes the computer
[12:15] <unix_infidel> who told you to you to format.
[12:15] <ubuntu__> it couidn't boo into windows
[12:15] <ubuntu__> i was trying to reinstall windows
[12:15] <ubuntu__> and i tried formatting
[12:15] <ubuntu__> but i plugged it into another computer and it found it and the linux partition was there
[12:16] <ubuntu__> but since it was windows i coudn't pull anything off
[12:17] <ubuntu__> mount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[12:17] <ubuntu__> that the error i get when i try to mount it
[12:18] <zorglu_> you said that you tried to install window on this drive and that window freeze while it is formating the disk ?
[12:19] <ubuntu__> ya
[12:19] <ubuntu__> like i said
[12:19] <zorglu_> hmm no good for you
[12:19] <ubuntu__> its like it freezes the system when a certain part of teh drive is accessed
[12:19] <zorglu_> i mean this is likely a crash from the disk
[12:19] <ubuntu__> maybe a bad sector or something
[12:19] <ubuntu__> but i'm gonna RMA it
[12:19] <zorglu_> RMA=?
[12:20] <ubuntu__> return the drive to western digital and get a new one
[12:20] <notech> what command did you use to try and mount it?
[12:20] <ubuntu__> anyways i have to go now
[12:20] <Acc> wow, life with linux can be easy and colourful, you just have to read and listen precisely.. ;) gn8 everyone, i'm startin to get through this
[12:20] <ubuntu__> i didn't ugse a command to mount it
[12:20] <notech> hmm, ok
[12:20] <epsilom> krfb don't accept more of two conexion, why??
[12:20] <ubuntu__> private msg the command or something, i'm going to supper
[12:21] <ubuntu__> or just say it now
[12:21] <nikkiana> i don't suppose there's a way to create a "minimize all" button to use with my desktop?
[12:21] <epsilom> help
[12:21] <notech> ubuntu: you'd need to create a mount point first, then try manually mounting it
[12:22] <notech> ubuntu: mount -t auto /dev/sda1 /media/some-mount-point
[12:24] <notech> oops, ubuntu__ ^^
[12:24] <Tallia1Kubuntu> heeeeelllo!
[12:24] <ulyssus> hi
[12:25] <Tallia1Kubuntu> is the edgy release ( kubuntu+1) stable by now?
[12:25] <Skrot> dapper+1 ;)
[12:25] <LjL> Tallia1Kubuntu: no, if it were it would be the release version ;)
[12:25] <Tallia1Kubuntu> was wondering if was well worth to install it
[12:25] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i mean, not stable.. but pretty stable
[12:25] <Tallia1Kubuntu> furthermore, isn't KDE4 to be released in this period? is it in dapper+1
[12:25] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ?
[12:25] <notech> only you can decide
[12:25] <kolin> having some trouble installing my hp deskjet 3650, anyone help?
[12:26] <LjL> well, i don't know, personally i'm sticking with dapper. however there is also a #ubuntu+1 channel where they might know more about edgy
[12:26] <kolin> it just isn't in the list of available printers
[12:29] <LjL> Tallia1Kubuntu: there is a *very* experimental version available (not in by default, though) for edgy. it looks just like 3.5 except it crashes more, though (it's codenamed "Krash", you figure...)
[12:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i see.. in this case i will wait..
[12:31] <Tallia1Kubuntu> can i ask you anyway the release dates for dapper+1 and KDE4 in kubuntu?
[12:31] <LjL> !edgy
[12:31] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[12:31] <LjL> !schedule
[12:31] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[12:31] <LjL> october 26
[12:32] <LjL> for kde4, no idea. i guess the devs have no idea either
[12:32] <chessmaster> can anyone tell me how i can make kubuntu recognize more than one hard driveat a time
[12:33] <LjL> chessmaster: well, it should do that without anything special from your part. the primary master should be at /dev/hda, the primary slave at /dev/hdb, secondary master /dev/hdc, secondary slave /dev/hdc
[12:33] <LjL> hdd that is
[12:33] <LjL> that is if you're using normal parallel IDE at least
[12:33] <chessmaster>  well its not recognizing the other harddrives
[12:34] <LjL> chessmaster: you mean there is no such file as /dev/hdb or /dev/hdc or /dev/hdd?
[12:35] <chessmaster> I'll check but when i got storage media it doesnt recognize the other drives
[12:35] <chessmaster> * go to
[12:36] <angeTls> salut  tous|hi everybody
[12:36] <LjL> chessmaster: well, i'm not too familiar with the KDE storage media interface to be honest. by the way, do you know if the drive(s) get recognized in Windows?
[12:37] <chessmaster> i dont have windows on here
[12:38] <angeTls> maybe i can help u, what's your problem?
[12:38] <LjL> chessmaster: ok, well then are you sure the drives are connected correctly, with the slave/master jumpers and all set?
[12:38] <chessmaster> they are allo set on cable select
[12:38] <zorglu_> chessmaster: does the bios see the drives ?
[12:38] <chessmaster> yes
[12:39] <chessmaster> it recognizes all 4 of them
[12:39] <zorglu_> how many drives do you have ? acutally pluggedin i mean
[12:39] <zorglu_> ok you got 4
[12:40] <zorglu_> chessmaster: ok do "cat /proc/partitions" and put that in pastebin
[12:40] <LjL> chessmaster: well, for lack of better ideas, let's just see if your system actually is seeing the drives or not. type a      sudo sh -c "head /dev/hda | hd"    where /dev/hda is also /dev/hdb, /dev/hdc and /dev/hdd
[12:40] <zorglu_> !pastebin
[12:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:40] <LjL> chessmaster: you should see the beginning of your HD contents, in hex
[12:41] <zorglu_> oh i didnt knew hd, always used od but it isnt nice :)
[12:41] <chessmaster> right now im in then dev file i see hdc hde hde1 hde2 hde5
[12:42] <LjL> zorglu_: octal... argh =)
[12:42] <LjL> chessmaster: /dev is a directory, not a file. but... you don't see hda?
[12:42] <LjL> chessmaster: what's the disk that you booted *from*? (in other words, where is your root partition?)
[12:43] <chessmaster> nope
[12:44] <chessmaster> do you mean the name of the drive?
[12:44] <LjL> chessmaster: no, i mean the /dev/whatever. just type a "df" and see what /dev/ file your "/" partition corresponds to
[12:45] <LjL> chessmaster: it will say like "/dev/hda2             12136384   5489596   6030296  48% /", if for instance your root partition is on /dev/hda2   (of course this is my output)
[12:45] <chessmaster> there is no hda
[12:45] <zorglu_> dumping it to pastbin would be faster :)
[12:45] <LjL> chessmaster: ok, but then where is it? it will say that
[12:45] <chessmaster> dev hde1
[12:46] <chessmaster> dev/hde1
[12:46] <LjL> chessmaster: ok, and what's that disk phisically? the primary master?
[12:47] <chessmaster> they should all be on cable select
[12:48] <LjL> chessmaster: well, that just means that the position on the cable will select... but they still are either primary or secondary, and either master or slave ;)
[12:48] <LjL> chessmaster: if you're using cable select with an 80-pin cable, the drive on the far end of the cable is the master, and the one in the middle of the cable is the slave
[12:49] <LjL> chessmaster: also, if you're using an 80-pin cable, you should make sure that the blue (or cyan) end of the cable is the one that connects to the motherboard
[12:50] <grothesk> Someone familiar with suspend around?
[12:50] <chessmaster> yes i know i amn working at a computer refurbishment place right now
[12:50] <grothesk> I need to unload a wlan module. Where do I set the command?
[12:50] <ulyssus> gorthesk reminds me of linux-club =)
[12:51] <kolin> having some trouble installing my hp deskjet 3650, anyone help?
[12:51] <grothesk> ulyssus: You might be right *g*
[12:51] <zorglu_> rmmod wlanmodulenamedependingofyourconf :)
[12:51] <grothesk> zorglu_: I want it in the respective suspendscript. But I don't know which onw.
[12:52] <LjL> chessmaster: well, fact is, other than a hardware configuration problem, i can't think of a reason your drives would show up that way on Ubuntu.  which doesn't mean there is no reason, just means i don't know of one.
[12:53] <zorglu_> grothesk: neither do i :) but i can tell you that 'lsmod' will list all currently loaded module, and that 'rmmod' will unload them :)
[12:53] <tobias___> :D
[12:53] <grothesk> zorglu_: Thanky you. But I knew that already...
[12:53] <chessmaster> well thx for your help a friend of mine who knows alot more about linux will be here in a few hours
[12:53] <zorglu_> ok
[12:54] <zorglu_> 2 disapointed customers in a snap :)
[12:54] <ulyssus> lol
[12:54] <grothesk> I know that manually rmmoding that module will suspend my notebook. But I'm a lazy guy and want a script to take care of it.
[12:55] <LjL> chessmaster: but just out of curiosity... you have no CD readers in that machine?
[12:56] <LjL> chessmaster: and have you tried asking in #ubuntu too? there's a lot more people there (which can be a good or a bad thing, depends...)
[01:00] <jimmix> hi, i wanna know how to install xgl and cgw
[01:00] <kimo> doesnt kubuntu have an edgy repo yet?
[01:00] <Hawkwind> kimo: It does, but it's recommended you stick with Dapper until Edgy becomes stable and doesn't break all the time
[01:00] <Junis> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEQbfED8cmY
[01:01] <Hawkwind> !xgl > jimmix
[01:01] <kimo> Err http://kubuntu.org edgy/main Packages 404 Not Found
[01:02] <Hawkwind> kimo: Why are you wanting to upgrade to Edgy ?
[01:02] <Hawkwind> kimo: And it would be edgy main   not edgy/main
[01:02] <Junis> is true the rumor that ubuntu dont will send the free cds?
[01:03] <kimo> yeah that's apt's output
[01:03] <Hawkwind> Junis: Huh ?
[01:03] <Hawkwind> kimo: Are you running Edgy or Dapper currently ?
[01:03] <zorglu_> !edgy
[01:03] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[01:03] <zorglu_> bad command
[01:04] <mike__> evenin folks.... anyone got a good recomendation  for an e mail program to use in  kubuntu
[01:04] <kimo> dapper
[01:04] <mike__> yes
[01:04] <grothesk> mike__: kmail.
[01:04] <kimo> I switched the repo config ... preparing for migration
[01:05] <mike__> is that already installed?
[01:05] <zorglu_> mike__: kmail is the official one for kde, but thunderbird is very popular
[01:05] <zorglu_> aka there is 2 upto you to choose
[01:05] <zorglu_> yep kmail is already installed
[01:05] <zorglu_> thunderbird requires 1 line of text to install
[01:05] <h3sp4wn> mike__: pine / mutt (I use pine but you cannot distribute modified binaries)
[01:06] <Hawkwind> kimo: Why are you upgrading to Edgy ?  You realize it's not final, still breaks quite often and isn't meant for everyday desktop use quite yet
[01:06] <zorglu_> or telnet smtp.isp.com 25 :)
[01:06] <kimo> Hawkwind: yeah I understand
[01:06] <kolin> what's the right driver format for installing a printer?
[01:06] <mulliken> Hey there.  Is there someone who can help a Kubuntu noob for a minute?
[01:07] <zorglu_> i start counting sec... :)
[01:07] <mike__> I  use t-bird in xp this instalation line you do a sudo command in your terminal?
[01:07] <h3sp4wn> kolin: /etc/printcap (the syntax is insanely complicated though)
[01:07] <ben> hey does anyone here have an invitation code to demonoid.com?
[01:07] <kolin> like
[01:07] <Hawkwind> ben: Heh, probably the wrong channel to be asking
[01:07] <kolin> all i want is to install a printer
[01:07] <zorglu_> mulliken: if you have questions, shoot away
[01:07] <kolin> and it isn't in the list of HP avaiable
[01:07] <mulliken> Okay, thanks.  Here goes....
[01:07] <ben> figured that but thought it was a shot
[01:08] <zorglu_> mike__: ?
[01:08] <kolin> so i am trying to get this hpijs driver thing figured out and have no idea what i am doing
[01:08] <mulliken> I just installed 6.10 from a Linux Magazine DVD, and I have installed it under VMware....
[01:08] <h3sp4wn> 6.10 is edgy right ?
[01:08] <mike__> zorglu yes    was talkin about installing  t-bird
[01:08] <Hawkwind> mulliken: 6.10 or 6.06 ?
[01:08] <Hawkwind> h3sp4wn: Yes
[01:08] <mulliken> The process of installing VMware tools, calls for compiling some code.  There is a script that performs that function....
[01:08] <mike__> sorry for time gap
[01:09] <h3sp4wn> why would a magazine provide edgy ?
[01:09] <Hawkwind> mulliken: If you truly installed 6.10 then you can get help in #Ubuntu+1 which is the channel for Edgy questions
[01:09] <mulliken> In order for that script to run, it wants a compliler, and the kernel header modules, and make, of course.
[01:09] <zorglu_> mike__: what is tbird ?
[01:09] <ulyssus> thunderbird ;)
[01:09] <mike__> thunderbird
[01:09] <deoptima> anyone have a radeon xpress 200m videocard?
[01:09] <zorglu_> !build-essential
[01:09] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:09] <zorglu_> mulliken: for you
[01:09] <kolin> Unable to create the Foomatic driver [HP-DeskJet_3650,hpijs] . Either that driver does not exist, or you don't have the required permissions to perform that operation.
[01:09] <mulliken>  The install did not provide those thinsg.  I have used "apt-get" to find make, and gcc-4.0, but I can't find the kernel headers.
[01:09] <kolin> anyone know why this would be happening?
[01:10] <zorglu_> mike__: ok put my name in your reply, it helps me follow
[01:10] <Hawkwind> mulliken: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers
[01:10] <LjL> mulliken: follow the build-essential suggestion
[01:10] <mulliken> Anyone know how I get the kernel headers for the version I am running, using apt-get?
[01:10] <mulliken> Thanks.
[01:10] <mulliken> I'll go try that right now.
[01:10] <zorglu_> mike__: ok do 'sudo apt-get install thunderbird' and it will install it
[01:13] <h3sp4wn> mulliken: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-`uname -r` (to make certain you get the right ones)
[01:14] <zorglu_> just install kubuntu 10days ago, coming from fc4, this is a really clear desktop :)
[01:14] <zorglu_> just a good irc client, a good IM and a good music player
[01:15] <zorglu_> and the font are better rendered that on fc4
[01:15] <zorglu_> well it is all good :)
[01:19] <zorglu_> $ man hd
[01:19] <zorglu_> Reformatting hd(1), please wait...
[01:20] <zorglu_> maouaoua pretty scary :)
[01:20] <Wizman87> If I download the CD or DVD from the Kubuntu website, are they both bootable?
[01:20] <zorglu_> yep
[01:21] <Wizman87> Thanks. ^^
[01:21] <Wizman87> Does it matter which one I get?
[01:21] <Wizman87> I have an AMD processor
[01:21] <Wizman87> so should I get AMD64?
[01:21] <zorglu_> amd64 will cause more trouble as it is not yet well supported by some things
[01:21] <Wizman87> or the windows version: i386
[01:22] <Wizman87> does it matter which one I get?
[01:22] <zorglu_> like web browsing with flash
[01:22] <Wizman87> I mean.. I have Windows.. but I have an AMD processor
[01:22] <Wizman87> not 64-bit though
[01:22] <zorglu_> i will advise for a i386 version
[01:22] <Wizman87> I assume the i386 is the 32-bit version?
[01:22] <zorglu_> yep
[01:22] <zorglu_> work on amd64 too, but in 32bit
[01:23] <Wizman87> I see, and powerPC are for PowerPC desktops
[01:23] <zorglu_> yep, mac box
[01:23] <Wizman87> thank you once again ^^
[01:23] <unix_infidel> power pc platforms, that means laptops, desktops etc etc
[01:23] <Wizman87> I'll download the i386, thanks
[01:24] <zorglu_> i just love kubuntu :)
[01:24] <MadRabbit> what do I need to make my own cursor? I made my own for windows (I have vision problems).  or can I somehow convert my *.cur* to whatever it needs to be in linux?
[01:24] <zorglu_> the little OSD from amarok when a new song is starting, all nice and slick :)
[01:25] <zorglu_> it is in the theme of kde somewhere... dunno where
[01:25] <zorglu_> is there a kde-art channel
[01:25] <ulyssus> OSD?
[01:25] <zorglu_> On Screen Display
[01:26] <zorglu_> stuff which appears on screen but which are not windows
[01:26] <ulyssus> sure, it is =)
[01:27] <cpk2> I need help with how to edit my xorg.conf so I can pick different screen resolutions
[01:27] <MadRabbit> to put kubuntu on a dell inspiron laptop; the desktop cd will do that ok?
[01:28] <cpk2> i tried figuring it out for myself, that didnt turn out very well =P
[01:29] <ulyssus> cpk2: 'sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf' should help
[01:30] <cpk2> ulyssus: i know how to edit it =) but when i tried adding resolutions into the modelines x didnt like it
[01:45] <josh_> whats up people
[01:45] <josh_> got a question
[01:45] <josh_> anyone know a place where i can find a good speed test?
[01:45] <josh_> my cable company is yanking me around
[01:48] <simon__> hi everyone
[01:49] <simon__> can someone give me a quick heads up why k3b doesnt burn anything over 4 gig?
[01:49] <Hawkwind> simon__: Seems weird, as I burn stuff with k3b over 4GB all the time.  4.4GB to be exact
[01:51] <cpk2> Need help editing my xorg.conf so I can have more than !one! screen resolution.  Tried adding resolutions into the modelines and it didnt like that =\
[01:51] <simon__> hmm thnx hawkwind must be a setting ive got wrong
[01:51] <simon__> nero linux burns over 4 gig fine
[01:52] <Hawkwind> cpk2: Using nvidia ?
[01:52] <yantux> hi, anyone can help me with installation kubuntu
[01:52] <cpk2> Hawkwind: yes
[01:52] <yantux> simon_ u speak spanish?
[01:52] <cpk2> propietary drivers
[01:52] <Hawkwind> cpk2: Hold on, I'll give you my xorg.conf file
[01:52] <simon__> no
[01:52] <paran_> simon__: are you using fat32?
[01:52] <simon__> hmm good point
[01:53] <Hawkwind> cpk2: http://pastebin.ulteo.us/123
[01:53] <yantux> when i reboot, the system says: unable to mount root, kernel panic
[01:53] <yantux> :(
[01:53] <simon__> ext3
[01:53] <Hawkwind> cpk2: I'm using Nvidia with TwinView so that xorg.conf should help you
[01:53] <cpk2> Hawkwind: thanks =D
[01:53] <paran_> simon__: ok. i guessed it might be on a windows partition with fat32. fat32 can't handle files bigger than 4G
[01:54] <Hawkwind> cpk2: No problem
[01:54] <yantux> ?
[01:54] <cpk2> Hawkwind: wow, your "screen" section is so much simplier than mine
[01:54] <simon__> nah definately ext3 file structure
[01:55] <simon__> but good point anyway
[01:55] <simon__> ill use nero linux till i can work out why k3b doesnt like over 4 gig
[01:55] <yantux> when i reboot, the system says: unable to mount root, kernel panic
[01:56] <yantux> and i don't enter to system :(
[01:56] <simon__> does everyone like the new beta driver (nvidia)
[01:57] <simon__> cant seem to get tv out working correctly to display a copy of my monitor though
[01:57] <cpk2> Hawkwind: see heres the funny thing i have more than one mode in the xorg
[01:59] <Hawkwind> cpk2: You should be able to edit the resolution line accordingly and then just use my xorg.conf and it should work
[02:00] <Hawkwind> cpk2: I got mine from someone else when I first started on Kubuntu and it worked without issue
[02:02] <cpk2> Hawkwind: i have those modes and more that you have under "display" so I dont really understand what would need to be changed?
[02:03] <Hawkwind> cpk2: What resolution(s) are your monitors running at ?
[02:03] <cpk2> just one monitor
[02:03] <cpk2> at 1024x768
[02:03] <Hawkwind> I thought you were trying to do two monitors ?
[02:04] <cpk2> i hope i didnt typo an s in there...
[02:04] <Hawkwind> cpk2: Ohhhhh, I read it wrong, sorry
[02:04] <cpk2> hmm i suppose i didnt really say either way
[02:04] <Hawkwind> I thought you were trying to do dual monitors, sorry
[02:04] <cpk2> no problem, just happy someone is trying to help me =)
[02:05] <Hawkwind> cpk2: So don't use my xorg.conf :P
[02:05] <Hawkwind> cpk2: Though I can do the three resolutions listed in my xorg.conf if that makes you feel any better
[02:05] <cpk2> lol
[02:05] <Hawkwind> cpk2: That is, if I were to use just one monitor, but I use dual monitors
[02:06] <fildo_> matrox card rocks with dual monitor
[02:06] <luis_> hi
[02:08] <cpk2> Hawkwind: thats the thing, i have more than one resolution listed but i cant use them
[02:09] <supergreg> sorry for being offtopic, but does anyone know how to get help with java on this network? Cannot join #java because I need to be identified etc. Just a hint would be good. Channel-listing shows no channels on this network...
[02:11] <cpk2> you could just go to the freenode site and register...
[02:12] <supergreg> aha, so there's a site! Thanks, will do.
[02:14] <cassidy> hey guys
[02:15] <cassidy> would somone want to help me out for a sec? My sound quit working out of no where and i dont know what to do :(
[02:15] <cassidy> wait.... brb
[02:17] <||arifaX> I lost my desktop icons. reboot works to bring them back (happened before) whatelse can I do without rebooting?
[02:18] <NameNomad> I have .m4a and .wma music files, how can I get them to play correctly in amaroK?
[02:19] <NameNomad> I'm trying to look at amaroK scripts, but I've got no idea what I'm looking for
[02:20] <rawrness> Its nice to be back in linux
[02:21] <rawrness> finaly got windows to work   if you could call windooze working.
[02:21] <rawrness> its sad that family refuses to learn.
[02:22] <simon__> hey does ne1 know a way to hold your prefered view options in konqueror when viewing your files, im sick of constantly switching from folder view to detailed view which is what i like?
[02:22] <cpk2> ||arifaX: i suppose just restarting x would bring them back but that is still pretty drastic
[02:22] <NameNomad> does anyone know how to get .wma and .m4a files to work in amaroK or Kaffeine?
[02:22] <simon__> ive searched and searched to no avail
[02:22] <cpk2> !wma
[02:22] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:23] <cassidy> Hey, would somone want to tell me how to get my sound working again?  Why? How do I get back the "Repeat album", "Random album" and ID3 multi-tab dialog?
[02:48] <Dr_willis> simon__,  ya know - i never noticed a way either..
[02:48] <Dr_willis> simon__,  the #KDE guys may know a way
[02:51] <simon__> np Dr willis thnx for the tip
[02:52] <Dr_willis> simon__,  thers some sort of  'save layout/session/' featire -but i dont think the default kde layout under kubuntu has many examples
[02:53] <simon__> hmmm might be a way to do it
[02:54] <Dr_willis> i found a bunch of exampkles once.. one with a file manager window above, and a shell below. :P
[02:54] <Dr_willis> that was my fav.
[02:56] <caseyomah> Okay, I had amaroK installed on Ubuntu with package kubuntu-desktop installed, and now with my install of Kubuntu from CD it doesn't have all the features. Why? How do I get back the "Repeat album", "Random album" and ID3 multi-tab dialog?
[02:56] <simon__> awesome ive worked it out
[02:56] <simon__> want to know dr willis
[02:56] <Dr_willis> sure
[02:57] <simon__> 1 sec slow typer
[02:57] <simon__> start konqueror
[02:57] <simon__> get your prefered view happening
[02:58] <simon__> press settings, then save view profile
[02:58] <simon__> and save it
[02:58] <simon__> whallaaa
[02:59] <simon__> restart konqueror and prefered view should stick
[02:59] <simon__> follow all that? did it work for you?
[02:59] <simon__> has been bugging me for mnths
[03:03] <Dr_willis> lol
[03:03] <cpk2> know whats been bugging me? I only have !one! screen resolution to pick from
[03:03] <Dr_willis> theres klot of view profiles you can download also  :P
[03:03] <cpk2> and if anyone has any advice to lend it would be greatly appreciated
[03:03] <simon__> yer what some cool ones dr willis
[03:04] <Dr_willis> edit the xorg.conf to allow others
[03:04] <cpk2> i have more than one resolution in xorg already
[03:04] <Dr_willis> simon__,  i like the one with file manager on top. and terminal on the bottom
[03:04] <Dr_willis> cpk2,  its not using them then. as far as i know - the info comes from that file
[03:05] <Dr_willis> not that i ever change res. :P
[03:05] <word> when trying to mount an nfs share from one computer on my network it er...doesn't do anything..it stays at 0% all the other computers on the network don't have a problem
[03:07] <caseyomah> How do you open terminal  in konqueror?
[03:07] <Dr_willis> ya mean the Konsole menu item?
[03:08] <software_> ayuda en espaol
[03:08] <caseyomah> I mean split konqueror into File manager/terminal.
[03:08] <software_> cual es el link para la ayude en espaol?
[03:08] <Dr_willis> Its a menu item.. i forget where :P
[03:08] <Jucato> caseyomah: F8
[03:08] <Dr_willis> lets see
[03:08] <cpk2> !es
[03:08] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:08] <Jucato> Press F8...
[03:08] <Dr_willis> yea f8 does it
[03:08] <Dr_willis> never knew that
[03:09] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:11] <cpk2> where is the xorg logfile?
[03:11] <Dr_willis>     /var/log/
[03:12] <Dr_willis> would be my guess. :P
[03:12] <Phoenix1701> Hey folks...  I got bit by the kernel update nvidia driver problem, but the updated restricted drivers package didn't fix things for me.  I've heard that the corrected drivers were only provided for the 386 kernel, and I'm running the 686 kernel.  Anyone have news or help to share on this?
[03:12] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. ive not noticed any problem..
[03:13] <Dr_willis> perhaps i will wait a wile for my next update. :P been a few days
[03:14] <Phoenix1701> Well, this last update was about a week ago, but as I said, the fix seemed not to apply to my configuration even though the original problem did...  so I have to start up using the old kernel.
[03:15] <cpk2> lol the logfile says "do i need RAC? no i dont"
[03:16] <Dr_willis> Well do you?!
[03:16] <Dr_willis> :P
[03:18] <Phoenix1701> So, I'm guessing no one here has the lowdown on this?
[03:19] <not_benh> just checking before I go and totaly screw something up, if I want to track Edgy/testing then just s/dapper/edgy/ in etc/apt/sources.list and then apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade... .correct?
[03:21] <rawrness> I am thinking about buying a tv card for my computer any suggestions?
[03:21] <Dr_willis> check the Mythtv sites./boards for recoomned cards
[03:22] <rawrness> thanks
[03:27] <software_> ocupo ayuda con el ark
[03:27] <software_> a need help whit the ark
[03:27] <software_> don't work the program
[03:27] <caseyomah> Okay, how do I properly mount a vfat (/dev/hdb1) with rwx access to everyone using automount?
[03:28] <Jucato_> !fat32
[03:28] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[03:28] <software_> necesito ayuda en espaol porque no soy muy bueno con el ingles
[03:29] <software_> alguien me puede ayudar?
[03:29] <Jucato_> !es
[03:29] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:29] <Jucato_> !pt
[03:29] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[03:29] <software_> gracias
[03:32] <Dr_willis> Benu Nochos...
[03:32] <Dr_willis> Churro Grande!
[03:32] <rawrness> bean  nachos yum!
[03:33] <Dr_willis> Bean Churros!
[03:33] <Dr_willis> I made CheeseCake today. :P
[03:34] <rawrness> OT: eating cheesecake
[03:35] <Dr_willis> THey got cheesecake filling allready made in a tub like butter. :P  I almost dident put it in a Pie Shell.
[03:40] <rawrness> i am making a dvd any one know anyway to get all the vol at the same level?
[03:40] <jj_> volume normalizer
[03:41] <rawrness> and what has that?
[03:41] <jj_> you can get a plugin for xmms
[03:42] <jj_> just google volume normalizer
[03:43] <rawrness> myth tv looks kickass
[03:45] <jj_> it is
[03:46] <jj_> im still on 0.19, i need to get 0.20
[03:46] <StrudelNinja> Hey. I finally got sound in firefox but now I'm not getting any after I close amaroK. Is there any way to kill anything that may be using the sound or something?
[03:46] <rawrness> I take it though i can't use my pc as a pc afterwards though
[03:47] <jj_> why not?
[03:47] <rawrness> Scratch that then.
[03:48] <Hawkwind> StrudelNinja: sudo fuser -k /dev/dsp
[03:51] <caseyomah> Does automount autounmount when done on hdds?
[03:53] <bLaZeD> !fluxbox
[03:53] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[03:55] <Jucato_> caseyomah: afaik, no
[04:00] <word> when trying to mount an nfs share from one computer on my network it er...doesn't do anything..it stays at 0% all the other computers on the network don't have a problem and...apparently after half an hour it says it isn't available?
[04:04] <diswill> need help with klamav
[04:05] <menace> whats the problem? maybe we can help
[04:05] <jj_> word, what OS are you trying to transfer from
[04:05] <diswill> autoscan process dies unexpecitly after about 3 to 5 seconds
[04:05] <word> jj_: both are linux kubuntu it has no problem mounting a file exported from mine :-/ but it won't let me mount it's
[04:06] <dietguy> is kubuntu, the distribtor of linux with lots of cool editing software for video and sound?
[04:06] <jj_> nope
[04:06] <dietguy> which one is
[04:06] <jj_> its just ubuntu with KDE
[04:06] <jj_> any of them
[04:07] <Dr_willis> pick what software ya want.. and install it.
[04:07] <dietguy> ubuntu is?  I download it and abuntu was a run in windows thing. What the hell is that about
[04:07] <jj_> have you read the guide
[04:07] <menace> yea, ive been wondering myself what the difference is between ubuntu and kubuntu
[04:07] <Jucato_> I think he's talking about the free software that can be installed on Windows using the Dapper Desktop CD?
[04:07] <jj_> one uses gnome and the other uses KDE
[04:08] <dietguy> I want free stuff like a photoshop and adobe premeire editor as well as something like foundry audio loops
[04:08] <menace> thats the only difference jj?
[04:08] <jj_> yep
[04:08] <Jucato_> menace: yes
[04:08] <menace> diet guy: wine
[04:08] <Dr_willis> "TheOpenCD" has a lot of Free/GPL software for windows.
[04:08] <diswill> that is what I thought
[04:08] <word> dietguy: some are in development...kino is pretty good from what i've heard
[04:08] <dietguy> I want to run linux with the same kind of GUI as windows. does it exist or is everything type command?
[04:08] <menace> kubuntu has a GUI...
[04:08] <Dr_willis> I think dietguy  needs to go do some basic research.
[04:08] <jj_> there are tons of GUI's
[04:08] <menace> why would you want windows over linux's?
[04:08] <Dr_willis> and download a live cd and try it.
[04:08] <dietguy> thats why im here
[04:09] <dietguy> asking
[04:09] <dietguy> stop being an elitist
[04:09] <menace> just stick with the linux GUI
[04:09] <dietguy> ?
[04:09] <jj_> download the unbuntu live CD, burn it, and boot your computer from CD drive
[04:09] <Dr_willis> Do some reading. and look at the live cd's.
[04:09] <dietguy> i dont know anything about it
[04:09] <Jucato> dietguy: Linux is different from Windows in many ways. it does have a GUI, so you won't have to type in commands most of the time
[04:09] <jj_> word, sorry
[04:09] <jj_> possibly check your permissions?
[04:10] <menace> O.o i need to register my name
[04:10] <dietguy> so what would you recommend for me. What distributor
[04:10] <dietguy> thats free
[04:10] <Jucato> dietguy: care to do some reading?
[04:10] <dietguy> with editing stuff
[04:10] <jj_> kubuntu
[04:10] <Dr_willis> Mosta ll of them are free.
[04:10] <dietguy> I guess I have to since no one will help me out
[04:10] <Dr_willis> and you can install any of that stuff on most any of them.
[04:10] <jj_> you might need to download some editing stuff though
[04:10] <dietguy> thank you jj
[04:10] <Jucato> dietguy: https://help.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html to get you a bit introduced to Linux (Chapter 2 specifically)
[04:10] <dietguy> kubuntu is the best for me then?
[04:11] <jj_> I would think so
[04:11] <Dr_willis> Best - depends on your needs.. Kubuntu is very well done.
[04:11] <CVirus> dietguy: what are you specs ?
[04:11] <lupine_85> or fvwm ;)
[04:11] <jj_> for image editing, use the gimp
[04:11] <menace> lupine: fvwm?
[04:11] <CVirus> your*
[04:11] <dietguy> i want video editing stuff and audio stuff and photoshop stuff
[04:11] <Jucato> Kubuntu is easy to use, free, and comes in one CD only. but you would need more than a dial up connection if you want more software
[04:11] <CVirus> menace: dont bother
[04:11] <menace> ok sorry
[04:11] <lupine_85> looks very much like windos
[04:11] <dietguy> does it run windows software?
[04:11] <dietguy> i have 3D studio max
[04:11] <menace> dietguy: download wine
[04:12] <CVirus> can we please stop confusing the guy ?
[04:12] <Dr_willis> !wine
[04:12] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:12] <dietguy> oh ok.. wine is to run windows platform?
[04:12] <menace> yes
[04:12] <jj_> dietguy, might I ask why you want to run linux?
[04:12] <dietguy> im told it doesnt crash as much and is safer to use on the internet with its firewall
[04:12] <dietguy> and windows crashes max
[04:12] <jj_> technically, it has no built in firewall
[04:12] <jj_> other than tables
[04:12] <lupine_85> iptables is a built-in firewall...
[04:13] <jj_> yeah
[04:13] <Dr_willis>  and the frirewall in itself dosent actually make it safer. :)
[04:13] <dietguy> does iptables come with linux?
[04:13] <lupine_85> heh, true
[04:13] <dietguy> well, i was told it makes it harder for people to intrude
[04:13] <Dr_willis> iptables is the user interface to the firewalling features of the kernel.
[04:13] <jj_> its more the fact that you arent succeptable(sp?) to viruses
[04:13] <lupine_85> but ubuntu also has no open ports by default
[04:13] <Dr_willis> and no spyware, or other crud-ware
[04:14] <lupine_85> as such, it's inherently safer than windows with it's smb, cifs, mssql, etc, etc
[04:14] <lupine_85> oh, and UPnP of course
[04:14] <menace> the computer teacher at my school says it doesnt matter if you have linux, your just as likely to get viruses and spyware.
[04:14] <lupine_85> what a joke
[04:14] <dietguy> Kubuntu  have spyware?
[04:14] <jj_> but just know if you are going to try and run windows software on linux, its going to be a PITA
[04:14] <Dr_willis> Hes wrong  men. plain and simple.
[04:14] <lupine_85> your computer teacher doesn't haver a clue then ;)
[04:14] <menace> lol
[04:14] <menace> he runs SuSe
[04:15] <Dr_willis> Well that explains it all.
[04:15] <menace> ok?
[04:15] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:15] <lupine_85> SuSE has sshd open and running by default...
[04:15] <menace> oooh
[04:15] <lupine_85> at least opensuse 10.1 does
[04:15] <jj_> that sucks. lol
[04:16] <CVirus> dietguy: Linux doesnt have spy ware
[04:16] <CVirus> can we please stop confusing the new comer ?
[04:16] <Dr_willis> just ssh running isent that big a deal. of course it depends on its specific configs.
[04:16] <lupine_85> it has rootkits instead
[04:16] <dietguy> ok cool. Last question
[04:16] <lupine_85> and exploits
[04:16] <dietguy> Will Kubuntu find all my drivers. Audio and such
[04:16] <jj_> what cards?
[04:16] <lupine_85> they're bigger in linux than spyware or viruses, but still much less of a problem
[04:16] <dietguy> its an old laptop, i dont have specs on it :(
[04:16] <Dr_willis> depends on the devices.
[04:16] <jj_> then probably
[04:16] <CVirus> dietguy: indeed ... Kubuntu works with most hardware out of the bos ... but some hardware isnt supported under linux
[04:16] <lupine_85> old generally == supported
[04:16] <StrudelNinja> Ok, I'm definitely not getting ANY sound in flash in firefox or IE6 in Wine
[04:16] <dietguy> its like 4 years old. Its an HP
[04:17] <lupine_85> StrudelNinja: aoss firefox ?
[04:17] <lupine_85> does konqueror get sound?
[04:17] <Dr_willis> Ubuntu/Kubuntu is one of the best disrto ive ran on my laptops
[04:17] <CVirus> Dr_willis: same here
[04:17] <menace> strudel, is amarok or any other multimedia device open?
[04:17] <jj_> any professional audio cards probably wont have drivers
[04:18] <Dr_willis> no driver for that Creative Xi-Fi yet i think either.
[04:18] <dietguy> OK, im going to install Kubuntu. When I install wine, is it pretty self explanitory or is it a big process to run stuff
[04:18] <StrudelNinja> Nope
[04:18] <dietguy> nope its not easy or..
[04:18] <Dr_willis> wine is a complex tool. that is worth reading up on - theres a LOT of tweaking that can be done with it for specific apps.
[04:18] <lupine_85> just "wine /path/to/.exe"
[04:18] <lupine_85> it might work for a paritcular app, it might not
[04:18] <StrudelNinja> all I have open is FF, konvo, knotes, and gAIM
[04:18] <jj_> dietguy, you might want to look into some linux equivelents also
[04:19] <menace> odd.
[04:19] <lupine_85> !blender
[04:19] <ubotu> blender is a free application for 3D modelling, animation, rendering, etc. You can install it from Ubuntu's repositories, and tutorials are at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro
[04:19] <menace> tried a restart?
[04:19] <StrudelNinja> yeah just did
[04:19] <StrudelNinja> no luck
[04:19] <menace> weird
[04:19] <dietguy> oh, there is no "Click on icon" runs auto feature?
[04:19] <StrudelNinja> I've had it work ONCE since I started
[04:19] <dietguy> i have to type command? :.
[04:19] <lupine_85> you can do that too
[04:19] <StrudelNinja> and it stopped shortly after
[04:19] <jj_> look into audacity, the gimp, and blender
[04:19] <menace> usually when that happens to me, it have to exit out of armarok then restart firefox strudel
[04:19] <lupine_85> the first time you double-click on a .exe it'll ask you what to run it with - you just say wine
[04:20] <lupine_85> then double-clicking .exe files will work
[04:20] <StrudelNinja> konq won't even load any flashes
[04:20] <Dr_willis> best to not rely on just doubleclicking .exe's  :)
[04:20] <dietguy> ok.. im gonna go install it. Do I have to reinstall all my softwares? Do I have to partitian my harddrive or run it on the same drive letter?
[04:20] <StrudelNinja> I've had almost no luck with flash ever since I installed
[04:20] <jj_> you have to repartition
[04:20] <jj_> and you wont have drive letters
[04:20] <dietguy> so split it to another letter?
[04:20] <Dr_willis> Linux instslls on its own hard drive partitions.. the idea of a 'drive letter' does not exist.
[04:20] <Dr_willis> :P
[04:20] <dietguy> no?
[04:21] <jj_> you will have hda's
[04:21] <dietguy> sounds scarey
[04:21] <Dr_willis> windows wont see the linxu partition at all.
[04:21] <menace> sudo apt-get remove flash, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get install flash?
[04:21] <Dr_willis> windows is scary how it handles drives.
[04:21] <lupine_85> repartition your hard drive in windows. resize the windows partition so you've got some free space
[04:21] <dietguy> do I have to purge my system of windows?
[04:21] <lupine_85> no :)
[04:21] <lupine_85> do ^ that^
[04:21] <dietguy> purge it out?
[04:21] <Dr_willis> Linux is its own os..   it dont need windoiws.. but it can coexist with it.
[04:21] <lupine_85> then choose option 2 in the installer
[04:21] <lupine_85> no, resize the windows partition
[04:21] <dietguy> I know.. but i thought I could run both at ddifferent times
[04:22] <jj_> you can
[04:22] <dietguy> ok so use Partitian magic then
[04:22] <dietguy> split it
[04:22] <Dr_willis> a Live cd  that runs gparted - is good to use to repartition the windows drives.
[04:22] <jj_> nope
[04:22] <dietguy> guh  im confused
[04:22] <Dr_willis> You boot to one os, or the other.. simple.
[04:22] <dietguy> I dont know how to make a bootable disk No one ever taught me :(
[04:22] <jj_> you just need free, unpartitioned space on your HD
[04:22] <Dr_willis> You dont need a bootable disk
[04:23] <lupine_85> partition magic is your best bet for resizing a windows partition
[04:23] <dietguy> lupine, so yes?
[04:23] <dietguy> use that
[04:23] <menace> dude guys, just tell diet to but a secondary harddrive and install it on the second harddrive....
[04:23] <jj_> too complicated
[04:23] <Dr_willis> I have 6 hard drives. :P
[04:23] <lupine_85> dietguy: yes, partition magic
[04:23] <lupine_85> ubuntu/gparted "might" work, but I've seen it kill at least one ntfs partition
[04:23] <Dr_willis> or Live CD + Gparted
[04:23] <menace> dr_willis, all plugged in and usable at one time?
[04:23] <dietguy> how much space is Kubuntu
[04:23] <Dr_willis> menace,  yea. :P got spme extra controller cards
[04:23] <jj_> gparted has been known to be a serious ntfs killer
[04:24] <menace> jj: it took me 5 minutes to do that and i knew nothing about linux
[04:24] <jj_> lol
[04:24] <menace> dr_willis: omfg, your the master
[04:24] <Dr_willis> menace,  gotta have room for the porn! :)
[04:24] <menace> rofl yea
[04:24] <menace> lol i thought i was the only one here that got a new harddrive just for porn....
[04:25] <Dr_willis> well porn and ROMS
[04:25] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:25] <menace> Snes or what?
[04:25] <Dr_willis> all sorts.
[04:25] <menace> koo
[04:25] <menace> my friend found a ps2 and xbox emulator :D
[04:25] <lupine_85> hehe
[04:25] <menace> idk if its lagit(sp) though
[04:25] <Dr_willis> the idea of a xbox emulator..  is amusing.
[04:25] <Dr_willis> the PS1 emulators out are amazing.
[04:26] <rawrness> very much
[04:26] <rawrness> so
[04:26] <lupine_85> well, it's all about the hardware in the end
[04:26] <Dr_willis> the Amiga emulator is kicking also.,
[04:26] <menace> never seen them
[04:26] <lupine_85> graphics card especially
[04:26] <StrudelNinja> Even after I uninstalled and reinstalled both flash plugins for firefox, neither worked. one crashed firefox, and I have no audio on the other
[04:26] <lupine_85> !!!!UAE!!!!
[04:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about UAE!!!! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:26] <rawrness> i can happly play my ff games even though my ps2 broke
[04:26] <lupine_85> ooops
[04:26] <menace> lol
[04:26] <rawrness> stupid 2 year olds and high places
[04:26] <cpk2> anyone know anything about iptables and masquerade?
[04:26] <Dr_willis> not tried the PS2 emulators.. seems that would take a lot of power in a system
[04:26] <rawrness> much so
[04:27] <lupine_85> cpk2: firestarter will do it easily for you
[04:27] <menace> i need a new graphics card and a few gigs of ram...too phracking poor though
[04:27] <lupine_85> otherwise check the netfilter homepage
[04:27] <rawrness> 2 gigs of ramm on cruiel about 120 bucks
[04:27] <StrudelNinja> I wish I could just make flash work ><
[04:27] <rawrness> flash is evil
[04:28] <rawrness> do your computer think it have flash strudel?
[04:28] <StrudelNinja> yeah
[04:28] <rawrness> then you need java
[04:28] <StrudelNinja> flash animation plays, but I have no audio
[04:28] <StrudelNinja> have it
[04:28] <rawrness> ahh
[04:28] <menace> get automatix!!!!!!!!!
[04:28] <rawrness> i know that problem
[04:28] <lupine_85> aoss firefox ?
[04:28] <StrudelNinja> someone told me to run "ln -s /tmp/.esd-1000 /tmp/.esd" but that doesn't do anything
[04:28] <StrudelNinja> aoss?
[04:29] <sh4d3z> is there a substitute for win movie maker?
[04:29] <rawrness> you have to edit somefile
[04:29] <menace> dr_willis: it didnt work for you?
[04:29] <Dr_willis> menace,  ive seen many a people in here - who got their systems trasked by automatix.
[04:29] <Dr_willis> easyubuntu works ok.. and is safer i hear.
[04:29] <menace> sh4d3z: www.kde-apps.org...check that out brother
[04:29] <Dr_willis> but i perfer to install my own stuff.
[04:29] <sh4d3z> thanx
[04:29] <menace> ah, it hasnt messed me up
[04:30] <menace> wait shadez,  www.kde-apps.org
[04:30] <rawrness> automatrix takes the  whole point out linux in my opnion
[04:30] <menace> i just got it for frostwire
[04:30] <rawrness> <- likes to do it him slef
[04:30] <Dr_willis> automatix has a very inteesting and flame filled history.
[04:30] <sh4d3z> haha i actually clicked on that first one lol thanx again
[04:30] <menace> lol np
[04:31] <menace> I HAVE NMAP
[04:31] <menace> WO0T
[04:31] <lupine_85> ph33r!
[04:31] <Dr_willis> nmap -s <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:31] <Dr_willis> :P
[04:31] <Dr_willis> nmap -Sp <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:31] <menace> wtf
[04:31] <lupine_85> can j00 hax0r my b0xen?
[04:31] <Dr_willis> heh
[04:31] <menace> firestarter is scary
[04:31] <menace> made my screen go dark
[04:32] <joseantonio> #ayuda
[04:33] <joseantonio> I cant reproduce kaffeine and amarok  any mp3  i cant
[04:33] <menace> say again?
[04:33] <joseantonio> no se reproduce ningun mp3 con kaffeine  ni amarok que puedo hacer
[04:33] <joseantonio> ?
[04:34] <Dr_willis> Huh?
[04:34] <jj_> dr willis, how much space do you have total?
[04:34] <Dr_willis> jj_,  i never added it all up.. actually i got some removed at the moment.. my fileserver died.. i need to put the d4ives in the new one.
[04:34] <rawrness> <- refuses to learn spanish cause all the illegal mexicans where he lives,
[04:34] <menace> lol
[04:34] <Dr_willis> several 250's a few 300's and a handfull of 120's
[04:35] <menace> you dont live in america do you rawrness?
[04:35] <joseantonio> in kubuntu,  amarok  and kaffeine,  cant reproduce or play  mp3
[04:35] <menace> ooooh
[04:35] <Dr_willis> !mp3
[04:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:35] <rawrness> yes
[04:35] <menace> lol
[04:35] <menace> same here
[04:35] <rawrness> thus the illegal part*
[04:35] <jj_> when you said you had a ton of controllers, you made me think of this guy - http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1006837&page=1&pp=20
[04:35] <menace> omfg dr_willis
[04:35] <rawrness> i am sure anywhere else has lots of illegal mexicans
[04:35] <rawrness> that just walzed over the border
[04:36] <joseantonio> wha th
[04:36] <Dr_willis> Mythbusters - The Immigrant Catapult.
[04:36] <Dr_willis> :P
[04:36] <menace> hahahah
[04:36] <rawrness> XD
[04:37] <joseantonio> .
[04:37] <StrudelNinja> brb, let's see if this works
[04:37] <amadeus> Can someone help me? I need to know what to do with a debian file after i download it?
[04:37] <[-KaSatKa-] > Have they made a fix for the screensaver error?
[04:37] <Dr_willis> dpkg -i whatever.deb
[04:38] <Dr_willis> with a sudo infront. :P
[04:38] <Dr_willis> for good luck
[04:38] <amadeus> lol thank
[04:38] <cpk2> lupine_85: i dont really want to get firestarter to do just one small thing, my room mate uses slack and set he got his laptop to access the web through his slackware box by just doing one command
[04:38] <amadeus> you
[04:38] <cpk2> but he cant remember what it was
[04:38] <jj_> Dr_willis, ^^^ that guy has 5.19tb in one box, you wanna talk about porn...
[04:39] <cpk2> dont know why i put set in that sentence
[04:39] <Dr_willis> jj_,  must be HighDef Porn!
[04:39] <joseantonio> dammit
[04:39] <menace> rofl
[04:39] <menace> whats the difference in slack and kubuntu?
[04:40] <Dr_willis> slackware is a totally different disrto
[04:40] <cpk2> iptables is still the same
[04:40] <lupine_85> iptables -A NAT <something> -j MASQUERADE
[04:40] <menace> ok, how drwill?
[04:40] <lupine_85> don't ask me what <something> is
[04:40] <[-KaSatKa-] > Have they made a fix for the screensaver error?
[04:40] <lupine_85> man iptables or check the netfilter website
[04:40] <cpk2> reading the *huge* man
[04:40] <Dr_willis> slackware is slackware.. :P kubuntu is a debian related/variant/offspring.
[04:40] <menace> ok
[04:40] <Dr_willis> differept package managers, different init systems...
[04:41] <menace> slack is more for hacking maybe?
[04:41] <cpk2> lol
[04:41] <cpk2> slack is diy
[04:41] <cpk2> maybe i need to have a postrouting and prerouting rule?
[04:41] <menace> anyone here tried the backtracker distro?
[04:41] <Dr_willis> slack is sort of old-skool in ways. :P go ask in #slackware I guess
[04:41] <StrudelNinja> ok so rawrness I tried your first link and got http://pastebin.ca/183653
[04:42] <rawrness> have you tryed the 2ed one?
[04:42] <StrudelNinja> about to
[04:42] <rawrness> 2ed one better
[04:43] <rawrness> i doed number 2
[04:44] <StrudelNinja> bash: aoss: command not found
[04:45] <amadeus> the depackaging of the debian file is not working... can someone help?
[04:45] <jj_> whats a good p2p client for kubuntu?
[04:45] <menace> frostwire
[04:45] <jj_> gnutella network?
[04:45] <menace> yes
[04:45] <jj_> thanks
[04:45] <menace> np
[04:45] <rawrness> frostwire is good if your used to limewire
[04:45] <rawrness> same thing just blue.
[04:45] <menace> yea
[04:46] <menace> whats gnutella?...i know frostwire has it but...what is it?
[04:47] <jj_> its just a network
[04:47] <menace> ok
[04:47] <StrudelNinja> rawrness: I can't aoss firefox
[04:47] <jj_> anonymous searching
[04:47] <jj_> and its not centralized like napster was
[04:48] <rawrness> then go down more
[04:48] <rawrness> its like th 5th thingy down
[04:48] <rawrness> you edit firefox so it uses aoss sted of oss
[04:49] <StrudelNinja> by eKlipSe?
[04:49] <rawrness> i think
[04:49] <rawrness> whats the url again
[04:50] <StrudelNinja> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-233751.html
[04:50] <StrudelNinja> let's see if it worked
[04:51] <will> what's the command for delete?  anyone?
[04:51] <StrudelNinja> ok I have sound now
[04:51] <menace> apt-get remove (insert program)
[04:51] <rawrness> yay
[04:51] <menace> koo strudel
[04:51] <rawrness> and i helped my 2ed person
[04:51] <StrudelNinja> let's see if it will KEEP working...
[04:51] <StrudelNinja> thanks
[04:51] <cpk2> will: rm?
[04:51] <will> menace: does that work for a file?
[04:52] <menace> just right click and delete will
[04:52] <cpk2> will: cli is rm
[04:52] <will> yah, it wouldn't give me permission so I was going to try the terminal
[04:52] <will> I'm very new to this, if you can't tell
[04:52] <cpk2> terminal is rm
[04:52] <will> thx
[04:52] <menace> sudo rm (file)...right?
[04:52] <cpk2> yeah
[04:52] <menace> im new, too
[04:53] <cpk2> you might need to do a recursive rm
[04:55] <Phoenix1701> Hope no one minds my asking this question again: I got bit by the kernel update nvidia driver problem, but the updated restricted drivers package didn't fix things for me.  I've heard that the corrected drivers were only provided for the 386 kernel, and I'm running the 686 kernel.  Anyone have news or help to share on this?    I've got a forum http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=473263 but I'm still having trouble solving the problem
[04:57] <will> anyone worked through this before?
[04:57] <menace> is it locked?
[04:57] <Hawkwind> !language
[04:57] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:58] <jj_> can you do a forced remove?
[04:59] <will> menace: yes.  I've deleted the lock file as instructed in the forum, however it comes right back (the guy in the forum had the same problem)
[04:59] <will> menace: they sort of lost me after that
[05:01] <claydoh> there may be more than 1 lock file
[05:01] <jj_> what happens when you open adept?
[05:01] <claydoh> in different dirs
[05:02] <will> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=473263
[05:02] <will> You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[05:03] <claydoh> use the find files in the kmenu to search for 'lock' in 'var' and delete them
[05:03] <jj_> have you tried sudo adept?
[05:04] <menace> does anyone know how to access a primary harddrive (running windows) from a secondary harddrive (running linux)
[05:04] <will> claydoh: I've already deleted it
[05:04] <jj_> without rebooting?
[05:04] <claydoh> all of them, there may be others in other locations
[05:04] <will> claydoh: when I restart adept the lock file returns
[05:05] <will> claydoh: I've tried sudo adept.  and I've restarted
[05:05] <jj_> menace, do you mean boot windows in linux, or just mount the drive?
[05:05] <will> claydoh: I'll search
[05:05] <menace> just mount the drive so i can access the files on the primary harddrive from my secondary harddrive
[05:05] <claydoh> then delete those, and install a program called Synaptic
[05:06] <claydoh> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[05:06] <claydoh> in a terminal
[05:06] <jj_> you should just be able to mount that disk?
[05:06] <claydoh> that is a better, bug free package manager
[05:06] <menace> i tried to go to system menu>39g media
[05:06] <menace> but i get this error
[05:06] <menace> Could not mount device.The reported error was:mount: can't find /dev/hda2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[05:07] <will> claydoh: I'm a few steps back, but I searched for 'lock' and found three.  deleted all. restarted adept. same error.  searched again and all three returned.
[05:07] <jj_> strange. thats beyond my knowledge
[05:07] <menace> ok
[05:08] <menace> will i had this problem yesterday
[05:08] <menace> but i cant remember how they fixed it
[05:08] <Phoenix1701> menace: For the record, I'm having the very same problem.
[05:09] <Phoenix1701> I imagine adding it to the fstab manually would probably fix it, but I refuse to do that on principle. ;)
[05:09] <menace> its an easy fix
[05:09] <will> menace: trying to install java?
[05:09] <menace> no
[05:09] <menace> trying to open adept
[05:09] <claydoh> yes, as adept is buggy, delete those again, and install synaptic as I noted above
[05:09] <moparisthebest> can I tell how much harddrive space is left from the command line?
[05:09] <jk-> moparisthebest: df -h
[05:09] <moparisthebest> thanks
[05:11] <Phoenix1701> claydoh: Is Synaptic really that much better than Adept?  Or is this personal preference speaking?
[05:11] <will> claydoh: got this error E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[05:11] <menace> yea do that will
[05:11] <will> claydoh: btw, why doesn't control-c work in the terminal?
[05:12] <claydoh> synaptic won't cause the problems that adept is
[05:12] <claydoh> tho in edgy adept is trouble free
[05:12] <will> edgy?
[05:12] <claydoh> will: then run the command: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:13] <claydoh> the next version of Kubuntu
[05:13] <will> do I need to get that?
[05:13] <claydoh> not now
[05:13] <will> still bug-filled?
[05:13] <Phoenix1701> Huh.  Will Synaptic let me get this mythical restricted driver package that will make my nvidia driver work and allow me to boot?  'Cause that'd be keen.
[05:13] <claydoh> alpha/beta stgae
[05:14] <will> word
[05:14] <Phoenix1701> will: It's not even remotely close to release at this point; I'd stay away for now.
[05:14] <claydoh> mythical?
[05:14] <will> claydoh: I just did the dpkg...  what was that for (trying to slowly learn what I'm doing)
[05:14] <jj_> i wish installing stuff in linux was easier
[05:14] <Phoenix1701> claydoh: Well, it definitely exists for 386...  but I've got the 686 kernel, and no one seems to be able to tell me if there's an analogous package for that or where to get it.
[05:15] <jk-> jj_: as opposed to 'apt-get install <program>' ?
[05:15] <menace> jj: get automatix if you dont like the installation
[05:15] <menace> but
[05:15] <menace> i've heard a bunch of people say it's bad code and messed up theyre system
[05:15] <jj_> its just there is always something different with every program
[05:15] <menace> but i havnt had any problem with it
[05:15] <Kyral> IT IS!!
[05:16] <claydoh> if you install 'nvidia-glx" by whatever means, it will install the restricted-modules as well
[05:17] <claydoh> will: i think it just cleans up whatever was interrupted safely
[05:17] <Phoenix1701> Hmm...  I'll see if I can do that.  Would it be best to boot up into the previous kernel so I can use Adept, or just apt-get it from the command line?
[05:17] <will> claydoh: k.     so do I need to re do the apt-get?
[05:17] <claydoh> if you have the 656 kernel, it will install the correct linux-restricted-nodules
[05:18] <claydoh> will: yes, to install synaptic
[05:18] <jj_> doesnt synaptic come standard with ubuntu?
[05:18] <claydoh> iether way will be good. Phoenix1701
[05:19] <claydoh> jj it does for Ubuntu, but Kubuntu uses adept
[05:19] <jj_> ok
[05:19] <Phoenix1701> claydoh: It says I already have the latest version.  :/
[05:19] <claydoh> but for dapper  usually recommend Synaptic
[05:19] <claydoh> will: good its installed
[05:20] <Phoenix1701> ?
[05:20] <claydoh> it should be in the System menu, but it may not show up until you log out/log im
[05:21] <Phoenix1701> claydoh: So assuming it's telling the truth and I really do have the latest version of nvidia-glx, what else might be the problem?
[05:21] <moparisthebest> is gzip better compression than bzip2?
[05:21] <claydoh> Phoenix1701: then you need to enable it, either manually in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:21] <will> claydoh: was that a question or can you somehow see what I'm doing?
[05:22] <claydoh> or try this command:'sudo nvidia-xconfig'
[05:22] <claydoh> then restart x (ctrl-alt-backspace)
[05:23] <claydoh> will: ?
[05:23] <Phoenix1701> claydoh: I did that last command from the root command line prompt, and although it appeared to run, X still wouldn't start.
[05:23] <Phoenix1701> "Module nvidia not found"
[05:23] <claydoh> then reboot?
[05:23] <will> claydoh: you said "good, it's installed" just when I had installed it.  got a little creeped out.
[05:24] <menace> lol
[05:24] <will> claydoh: but I installed it and thanks.
[05:24] <will> claydoh: is synaptic a java made program?
[05:24] <claydoh> no
[05:24] <will> claydoh: or did it automatically finish my java install, because I had to agree to a java license agreement
[05:25] <claydoh> probably
[05:25] <Phoenix1701> claydoh: Reboot didn't help...  still "module nvidia not found"
[05:25] <will> claydoh: cool.  I like the program already.  do I need to update my source list?
[05:25] <claydoh> will: yes, its usually a good idea
[05:26] <cpk2> lupine_85: i got it to work =D
[05:26] <claydoh> hmmm
[05:26] <cpk2> had to set ip_forward to 1
[05:27] <lupine_85> cool :)
[05:27] <will> any recommendations? and should I delete adept?
[05:27] <Phoenix1701> (BTW, just to make sure this is stated, the older kernel loads just fine and I get full 3D acceleration)
[05:27] <menace> i would say keep it just in case
[05:27] <menace> but thats jus tmy opinion will
[05:27] <will> k
[05:28] <will> but I can't use it can I
[05:28] <claydoh> Phoenix1701: try installing linux-restricted-modules-686
[05:29] <Phoenix1701> Hmmmmmmmmmmm...
[05:29] <tchung> hi, does anyone know where to get java runtime environment plug-in for firefox?
[05:29] <Phoenix1701> That's interesting.
[05:29] <Phoenix1701> It's got a new version for me.
[05:29] <Phoenix1701> I wonder why it didn't tell me about it when I did an apt-get update before.
[05:30] <menace> tchung: sun java 5.0 web start...it should have everything java you'll need...
[05:31] <claydoh> will: don't forget sun-java5-plugin for browser java plugin :)
[05:31] <Phoenix1701> And now X starts!
[05:31] <claydoh> Phoenix1701: sweet!!!!
[05:31] <tchung> Thank you guys
[05:31] <claydoh> will: you can keep adept, unless you really nned the space
[05:32] <Phoenix1701> My sentiments exactly!  Thank you VERY much, claydoh.  I'm still not sure why that worked, but I've no complaints!
[05:32] <tchung> is it on the repository?
[05:32] <claydoh> :)
[05:32] <menace> i...dont...know
[05:32] <claydoh> tchung: sun-java5-plugin is what you need
[05:32] <tchung> just google it?
[05:33] <claydoh> but you will need to enable multiverse in your package list
[05:33] <will> claydoh: cool.  and now it works.
[05:33] <Phoenix1701> Err...  but that's odd too.  When I log in, my screen goes black.
[05:33] <menace> wow, i've never had those problems phoenix,..corrupted installation?
[05:33] <will> claydoh: do you know the url for multiverse
[05:34] <claydoh> could be a refresh rate detected incorrectly
[05:35] <will> claydoh: actually, it looks like its already on there
[05:35] <Phoenix1701> claydoh: Possibly...  I wasn't looking closely enough when it happened.  Root can log in just fine...
[05:35] <Phoenix1701> And absolutely nothing will fix it now; not Ctrl-Alt-Backspace or Ctrl-Alt-Delete.
[05:36] <Phoenix1701> menace: I think more likely it's because I have both an internal Intel graphics chip and an Nvidia PCI card.
[05:36] <claydoh> add multiverse to the line 'deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dappper universe'
[05:36] <Phoenix1701> That's a notoriously problematic combination.
[05:36] <menace> oooh
[05:36] <claydoh> root?
[05:36] <Phoenix1701> Yeah, I accidentally did sudo startx rather than just startx, and that went just fine.
[05:36] <menace> internal, you mean integrated or you installed one?
[05:36] <Phoenix1701> Note the accidentally there.  ;)
[05:36] <Phoenix1701> menace: integrated, unfortunately.
[05:37] <claydoh> oh thats ok
[05:37] <will> anyone know why w32codecs won't download?
[05:37] <claydoh> server may be down atm
[05:37] <claydoh> but idf it woorks as sudo, it should go fine on your next reboot iirc
[05:37] <tchung> I have got the package now but I have got the "dependency is not satisfiable" error message. Is there any way to know what other packages it needs?
[05:37] <menace> will
[05:38] <menace> it downloaded probably
[05:38] <menace> search for the debian package
[05:38] <menace> and install it
[05:38] <menace> thats what happened to me
[05:38] <Phoenix1701> Huh.  Started up just fine this time...  must have just been one of those random things computers do *cough*thatarentrunningmacosx*cough* ;)
[05:39] <will> how do I do that? I found it using synaptic, and tried to install.  I get a download prgress bar, but it doesn't make any progress
[05:39] <menace> is there a button to press called "show details" or anything like that?
[05:39] <Phoenix1701> And I do have graphics acceleration -- I'm running Compiz, I'd know if I didn't.
[05:39] <Phoenix1701> So I think that's definitely problem solved. :)
[05:40] <claydoh> tchung: using Adept or synaptic?
[05:40] <tchung> claydoh: I download straight from a debian server
[05:40] <claydoh> if not, you will need to find what packages it needs
[05:41] <claydoh> don't do that
[05:41] <tchung> is it on synaptic?
[05:41] <moparisthebest> cd apache
[05:41] <claydoh> use a package manager
[05:41] <moparisthebest> darn, wrong window, lol, I should get some sleep :/
[05:41] <tchung> ok
[05:41] <tchung> I will try
[05:41] <claydoh> tchung: it is but you will need to enable univers/multiverse
[05:41] <claydoh> lint to follow
[05:41] <claydoh> lonk to follow
[05:41] <claydoh> heh link
[05:42] <awilcox> 2 seconds and already an LOL :P
[05:42] <AWOSDev> Hello
[05:42] <AWOSDev> I have a problem with ssh
[05:42] <will> claydoh: im using synaptic.  I can select "show progress of single files" but nothing shows up there either
[05:42] <will> looks like it may have been removed from the repos?
[05:42] <claydoh> it may not be able to download it
[05:43] <claydoh> if the server is down
[05:43] <AWOSDev> When I ssh into, well, anybody's [U/Ku] buntu machine I can't sudo
[05:43] <AWOSDev> Is that on purpose?
[05:43] <menace> im out, later guys
[05:43] <claydoh> will: actually it isn't there for legal reasons
[05:44] <AWOSDev> What's he trying to download?
[05:44] <jk-> AWOSDev: you can only sudo if you're in the admin group
[05:44] <AWOSDev> I can sudo on regular computers
[05:44] <AWOSDev> like if I'm sitting in front of the computer
[05:44] <TehKewl1> my wireless works in windows, and used to work in linux, but now it fails when I try to connect
[05:44] <AWOSDev> but if I'm 15 miles away I can't
[05:44] <claydoh> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[05:45] <claydoh> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:45] <TehKewl1> I'm using a d-link DWL-G630
[05:45] <tchung> claydoh: I really can't find the plug-in... :-(
[05:45] <TehKewl1> which has an ralink chipset I think...
[05:46] <AWOSDev> Will you yell at me if I paste three lines of output?
[05:46] <tchung> claydoh: I have enabled all repositories and I still can't find it
[05:46] <AWOSDev> Is that a yes?  :)
[05:48] <AWOSDev> I'll take that as yes... :|
[05:48] <claydoh> tchung: did you reload the package list?
[05:48] <tchung> I didn't
[05:48] <tchung> oops
[05:48] <claydoh> s'ok :)
[05:49] <AWOSDev> So there is no way to sudo through ssh?
[05:49] <BluDog_Anchorite> sudo through ssh works
[05:50] <AWOSDev> No it doesn't, I have three lines here that say it doesn't
[05:50] <will> anyone know where to find linux drivers for dell printers?
[05:50] <BluDog_Anchorite> AWOSDev: your config is wrong then
[05:50] <AWOSDev> BluDog_Anchorite: how do I fix it without sudo?
[05:51] <allisfree> which app can i use for read news group(nntp)?
[05:51] <AWOSDev> Do you want to see the three lines?
[05:52] <BluDog_Anchorite> sure
[05:52] <AWOSDev> allisfree, you can try Mozilla Thunderbird.
[05:52] <AWOSDev> !thunderbird > allisfree
[05:52] <BluDog_Anchorite> pm them to me
[05:52] <claydoh> you need to be logged in as a user in the admin group
[05:52] <claydoh> but I won't yell over 3 lines
[05:53] <claydoh> on nthe remote machine that is
[05:53] <Dr_willis> will,  check the cups.org site - dell printers are most likely just rebranded from some other company
[05:53] <_Dink> will, http://linuxprinting.org/
[05:53] <AWOSDev> Okay that's great and all, but I'm not convinced that access rights are my problem.
[05:53] <allisfree> AWOSDev: thanks, is there a kde app?
[05:53] <will> nevermind.  I figured it out.  thx
[05:54] <claydoh> allisfree: knode is kde newsreader
[05:54] <claydoh> but it doesn't do binaries
[05:54] <_Dink> will, also you might check to see if another brand has that printer, A lot of times Dell and other just takes lexmark/hp etc and put their log on it ;)
[05:54] <Dr_willis> i like pan for my news reading
[05:54] <_Dink> ahh k
[05:55] <claydoh> klibido is a gui binary downloader
[05:55] <claydoh> pan is the best
[05:55] <claydoh> tho not KDE
[05:55] <Dr_willis> libido  :)
[05:55] <AWOSDev> knews
[05:55] <AWOSDev> !knews
[05:55] <ubotu> knews: Graphical threaded news reader. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0b.1-20 (dapper), package size 227 kB, installed size 576 kB
[05:55] <claydoh> lol
[05:56] <allisfree> daydoh: Sorry, what's means "doesn't do binaries"
[05:56] <AWOSDev> allisfree: That means only source code is available, which you would have to compile.
[05:56] <Dr_willis> you cant download porn with them :P
[05:56] <allisfree> i found it with apt-cache
[05:57] <claydoh> doen't download pr0n and warez :)
[05:57] <Dr_willis> news groups can have messages.. or 'binary files' in them. :P
[05:57] <allisfree> i use edgy
[05:57] <AWOSDev> How do I add a user to a group using only Konsole?
[05:57] <claydoh> knews is ancient, realllyyy ancient
[05:58] <cpk2> xorg is pretty ancient
[05:58] <cpk2> we all use that
[05:58] <AWOSDev> I just apache search nntp
[05:58] <AWOSDev> ***apt-cache search NNTP sorry
[05:58] <claydoh> xorg is updated
[05:58] <will> claydoh: that link actually was needed.  however, I lack permission to install.  it says to "click on the administrator mode" button below (in system settings - printers)  but there is no such button
[05:59] <Dr_willis> enlarge the window.. the bitton may be hidden
[05:59] <Dr_willis> ive noticed it dont quite resize correctly
[05:59] <will> Dr_willis: you're a genius and I'm a moron
[05:59] <will> Dr_willis: thx
[05:59] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:00] <AWOSDev> Should I just edit the /etc/group file?
[06:00] <Dr_willis> AWOSDev,  thats one wat
[06:00] <Dr_willis> way
[06:00] <fowlduck> anyone else have synaptic issues in kubuntu edgy?
[06:00] <AWOSDev> What's a more decent, less 'last resort' option?
[06:00] <Dr_willis> AWOSDev,  check up on the different shell command to manage groups..
[06:00] <claydoh> AWOSDev: sudo addgrp <user> <group>
[06:00] <Dr_willis> ive never messed with them much
[06:01] <AWOSDev> fowlduck, they added synaptic to Kubuntu?!  finally...
[06:01] <AWOSDev> claydoh, thanks
[06:01] <claydoh> no its not there by default
[06:01] <claydoh> synaptic in edgt that is
[06:01] <fowlduck> AWOSDev: no, they didn't, but you can just as easily install and use it, since it's superior to all other offerings
[06:01] <AWOSDev> sudo: addgrp: command not found
[06:01] <AWOSDev> fowlduck, I agree
[06:02] <Dr_willis> addgroup
[06:02] <Dr_willis> add<tab>
[06:02] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:02] <AWOSDev> that's its the best graphical package management
[06:02] <fowlduck> yep
[06:02] <AWOSDev> Dr_willis, :)
[06:02] <Dr_willis> addporn
[06:02] <fowlduck> best i've ever used, better than yast even
[06:02] <AWOSDev> fowlduck, you mean addporn or synaptic :P
[06:03] <AWOSDev> no I agree, I hated YaST
[06:03] <Dr_willis> LinuXXX
[06:03] <fowlduck> SYNAPTIC
[06:03] <fowlduck> yeah, yast was weak
[06:04] <fowlduck> and adept is junk, it fails when you need command-line interaction from a package that uses a cli dialog
[06:05] <AWOSDev> YaST was very hard-coded, I mean I had to do SaX2 by myself because YaST kept screwing it up...and don't even get me started on xinetd or NIC configuration...
[06:06] <claydoh> Adept in edgy runs great, the only thing I see not working is the repository management
[06:07] <claydoh> but it doesn't leave lock files everywhere anymore
[06:07] <claydoh> but I am biased towards synaptic, just haven't neede it in edgy yet
[06:09] <Dr_willis>  fowlduck  i think theres just a package missing that is needed for that feature.
[06:09] <Dr_willis> fowlduck,  i ran into that issue once..  but i forget the package name.
[06:09] <fowlduck> the fact that it isn't included makes it inferior
[06:10] <Dr_willis> fowlduck,  or it makes it a oversight on the kubuntu  devs
[06:10] <fowlduck> naw, inferior
[06:11] <claydoh> no not an oversight, they just are trying to maintain QT based apps
[06:11] <claydoh> synaptic can be installed quite easily
[06:12] <fowlduck> claydoh: adept is Qt-based, isn't it?
[06:12] <claydoh> yes
[06:12] <fowlduck> so how does what you said apply?  we weren't talking about kubuntu not including synaptic
[06:13] <fowlduck> bah, whatever
[06:13] <claydoh> sorry, that what i though you were talking about
[06:13] <fowlduck> np
[06:13] <Dr_willis> Ive frogotten whatever we wehre talking about...
[06:14] <fowlduck> i forgot who you are....who i am....mommy!
[06:14] <claydoh> heh
[06:14] <will> if I'm doing something in the gui that I need administrator permission for (such as editing my sources list on KAte)  how do I change to SU
[06:14] <larson9999> i'm setting up freedos now and it's making appreciate the unix command line.  however, many things have been ported
[06:15] <claydoh> will: various ways:
[06:15] <claydoh> run 'kdesu <gui-app>
[06:16] <claydoh> or, if its a text file, simply right-click on it, select Actions-Edit As Root
[06:16] <fowlduck> will: i used to make a shortcut for kate that ran 'kdesu kate', maybe that will work best for you
[06:17] <will> cool.  I like that "edit as root" deal
[06:18] <fowlduck> right-on
[06:18] <fowlduck> have fun, i'm takin off people
[06:18] <fowlduck> later
[06:21] <AWOSDev> Is Dr_willis and fowlduck the same person?  I mean they both left at the same time and their quit messages are the same...
[06:23] <AWOSDev> Is there a way I can get MySQL 4?
[06:23] <AWOSDev> nvm
[06:23] <AWOSDev> found it
[06:23] <AWOSDev> mysql-server-4.1
[06:27] <arunkale> Umm I have a .dat video... how do I play it?
[06:28] <AWOSDev> Where did you get it?
[06:29] <AWOSDev> There are many types of .dat files
[06:29] <arunkale> well, a friend of mine has a band, and he has tihis music video with a .dat extension
[06:29] <arunkale> i can play it in windows using windows media player
[06:30] <AWOSDev> alright, have you tried XINE?
[06:30] <BluDog_Anchorite> or mplayer ?
[06:31] <arunkale> i dont have mplayer
[06:31] <arunkale> should i get it
[06:32] <AWOSDev> If you can find it, I can't find it anywhere...
[06:32] <arunkale> cant i get it off adept?
[06:32] <BluDog_Anchorite> its in one of the repos
[06:33] <BluDog_Anchorite> go through the restricted formats how-to
[06:33] <arunkale> yeah i found it
[06:34] <abattoir> arunkale: would it be possible for me to see the video too? I love watching startup bands...
[06:35] <arunkale> well, i guess.. it's a cool video as well.. gorillaz style
[06:35] <arunkale> but it's a pretty big file
[06:35] <arunkale> some 20 MB
[06:35] <AWOSDev> that's not that big to us Cable/DSL people :)
[06:36] <BluDog_Anchorite> sounds like a job for DCC, FTP, HTTP, etc....
[06:37] <AWOSDev> How do I get php4 and php5 to coexist peacefully?
[06:37] <arunkale> heh looks like i can view the video using vlc
[06:38] <AWOSDev> $ sudo apt-get install php4 .............  The following packages will be REMOVED: php5
[06:38] <arunkale> abattoir do you want me to dcc the file to you
[06:38] <abattoir> arunkale: nah, nvm
[06:38] <AWOSDev> what kind of music is it?  like rock?
[06:38] <BluDog_Anchorite> just dont try making VLC fullscreen in E17.
[06:38] <abattoir> arunkale: thanks for the offer though
[06:39] <AWOSDev> Also how do I get php3?
[06:39] <arunkale> it's electronica-rock types
[06:39] <arunkale> and it'sa killer video
[06:39] <jpiccolo_> !Multilib
[06:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Multilib - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:39] <AWOSDev> That package 'is not available, but referred to by another package'.
[06:41] <AWOSDev> is it even possible to get php3, php4 and php5 all running on one Kubuntu machine?
[06:41] <AWOSDev> I can do it in FreeBSD
[06:41] <ubuntu> hey
[06:41] <AWOSDev> Hey ubotu
[06:41] <AWOSDev> I mean ubuntu
[06:43] <ubuntu> kubuntu here-
[06:44] <AWOSDev> No, you're ubuntu :)
[06:44] <ubuntu> i so confused--------
[06:44] <AWOSDev> I just meant that your name is Ubuntu, not Kubuntu ;)
[06:44] <ubuntu> ok
[06:45] <ubuntu> whatever   :- >
[06:45] <t> hi. i type: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly libxine-extracodecs , but it doesn`t download,says that it didn`t find that package. i checked the universe repository
[06:45] <ubuntu> just call me Ken, dude
[06:46] <AWOSDev> okay, Ken dude :)
[06:46] <ubuntu><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:46] <AWOSDev> t, which package can it not find?
[06:46] <NthDegree> lol
[06:46] <t> AVOSDev - libxine-extracodecs
[06:47] <claydoh> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:47] <ubuntu> where the hell am I?
[06:47] <AWOSDev> t, have you enabled the multiverse repo?
[06:48] <moparisthebest> if I want to run a single command on startup, do I just put it in a file named anything and put the file in my init.d folder?
[06:48] <AWOSDev> ubuntu, you are in the Kubuntu Support Channel.
[06:48] <claydoh> you need to enable the repository
[06:48] <t> no, i will
[06:48] <moparisthebest> does it have to be .sh ?
[06:48] <AWOSDev> moparisthebest, try your .bashrc file
[06:48] <AWOSDev> If you want it to be run before you login, edit the .xinitrc
[06:48] <AWOSDev> file
[06:48] <ubuntu> what happened to Kubundu support????
[06:49] <moparisthebest> I want it to be ran on startup AWOSDev
[06:49] <moparisthebest> its a webserver, so I need it to restart everytime the computer does
[06:49] <t> AVOSDev - i wrong. this multiverse is ON
[06:49] <AWOSDev> can't you just set apache2 to startup automatically?
[06:49] <moparisthebest> I have to call this AWOSDev :
[06:49] <moparisthebest> /opt/lampp/lampp start
[06:49] <AWOSDev> t, what error does it give?
[06:50] <ubuntu> you guys need to get a life,     he he
[06:50] <arunkale> heh
[06:50] <claydoh> t: did you reload after enabling universe/multiverse?
[06:50] <moparisthebest> would I put it in the .bashrc file then AWOSDev ?
[06:50] <AWOSDev> moparisthebest, that would be when you log in, it runs that file
[06:50] <t> making tree. couldn`t not find package libxine-extracodecs (not exactly in english)
[06:51] <t> claydoh - yes
[06:51] <moparisthebest> its ran as root AWOSDev
[06:51] <ubuntu> I need some better drugs, man......
[06:51] <moparisthebest> so would that work?
[06:51] <t> brb
[06:51] <ubuntu> hello????
[06:51] <AWOSDev> moparisthebest, um, not exactly the way you want it to...
[06:51] <AWOSDev> ubuntu, what?
[06:51] <AWOSDev> I don't have drugs to give you :)
[06:51] <moparisthebest> so how would I make root run that command on startup?
[06:52] <ubuntu> ok
[06:52] <ubuntu> you guys are a trip-----
[06:52] <arunkale> haha
[06:53] <AWOSDev> moparisthebest, hold on
[06:53] <moparisthebest> ok :)
[06:54] <AWOSDev> moparisthebest, you need to put that command in /etc/init.d/rc.local
[06:55] <moparisthebest> there is an rc
[06:55] <moparisthebest> but no rc.local
[06:55] <AWOSDev> then make one :)
[06:55] <NthDegree> lmfao
[06:55] <moparisthebest> ok, :)
[06:55] <AWOSDev> just make sure the first line is
[06:55] <AWOSDev> #!/bin/sh
[06:55] <moparisthebest> is there a way to run a command on shutdown?
[06:55] <AWOSDev> moparisthebest, you sure do ask alot of hard questions :P
[06:56] <AWOSDev> hold on again :)
[06:56] <unix_infidel> moparisthebest: explain the situation in more detail.
[06:56] <moparisthebest> unix_infidel, I simply need to run "/opt/lampp/lampp start" as root on every bootup
[06:57] <moparisthebest> sorry about the hard questions AWOSDev :P, thanks for helpign though :)
[06:57] <unix_infidel> !rc.local
[06:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rc.local - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:57] <unix_infidel> moparisthebest: rc.local is a sort of a starup script for lazy people.
[06:57] <moparisthebest> and if possible unix_infidel run "/opt/lampp/lampp stop" on every shutdown
[06:58] <unix_infidel> you're better off adding it to the real init system.
[06:58] <moparisthebest> how would I do that unix_infidel ?
[06:58] <unix_infidel> moparisthebest: you know anything about sysvinit?
[06:58] <moparisthebest> no :/
[06:59] <unix_infidel> hmm, to be honest, its a good idea to learn how ubuntu and linux in general starts and stops services.
[06:59] <AWOSDev> Okay I'm back
[06:59] <AWOSDev> with good news
[06:59] <unix_infidel> that way if you're setting up a server, you know its starting up and shutting down properly.
[06:59] <AWOSDev> you were right the first time moparisthebest
[06:59] <unix_infidel> the poor man's solution is rc.local.
[06:59] <ubuntu> i'm back now
[06:59] <AWOSDev> make a .sh file in the init.d folder and make it executable
[06:59] <AWOSDev> then make a .sh file in the rc0.d folder and make it executable for shutdown
[06:59] <moparisthebest> oh, ok, it is that simple then, great :)
[07:00] <AWOSDev> unix_infidel, I'm right aren't I?
[07:00] <moparisthebest> there are a lot of files in there that are not .sh
[07:00] <AWOSDev> that's my understanding of sysvinit
[07:00] <claydoh> http://www.apachefriends.org/en/faq-xampp-linux.html#fsl
[07:00] <moparisthebest> they have no extension, that is what I thought I had to do
[07:00] <roadkill> could some one assist me in mounting my ntfs partition
[07:00] <AWOSDev> roadkill, mount -t ntfs /dev/hd<whatever> /wherever/you/want/to/mount
[07:01] <unix_infidel> moparisthebest: follow that guide that claydoh posted.
[07:01] <unix_infidel> and be SURE to do your own research before doing ANYTHING.
[07:01] <AWOSDev> roadkill, actually sorry, sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hd<whatever> /wherever/you/want/to/mount
[07:01] <moparisthebest> yep, I don't know how I could have missed that part, I must have read it a thousand times :(
[07:01] <moparisthebest> thanks everybody :)
[07:02] <AWOSDev> np moparisthebest :)
[07:02] <ubuntu> goodnight.......Johnboy
[07:09] <roadkill> what dose -t do?
[07:10] <AWOSDev> What program are you using?
[07:10] <AWOSDev> oh mount
[07:10] <AWOSDev> It specifies the file system Type
[07:10] <AWOSDev> "T" for "Type"
[07:10] <AWOSDev> like iso9660 for CDs, ntfs, vfat, etc...
[07:10] <AWOSDev> for more info, type
[07:10] <AWOSDev> man mount
[07:10] <AWOSDev> on your Konsole.
[07:32] <Lamington> has anyone used the gpg plugin for kopete ?
[07:33] <Healot> not me
[07:34] <AWOSDev> Good, moparisthebest left.  It was so hard talking to him.   I think I'll just RTFM a bit more... cyas
[07:36] <AWOSDev> bye Lamington!
[07:51] <CyberCoffee> :(
[08:19] <kraut> moin
[08:30] <tommg> hello, where i have to put my *.ko module to load it during the boot proccess?
[09:15] <ubuntu>   hgghgghg
[09:16] <ubuntu> hello
[09:18] <ubuntu> hi
[09:18] <ubuntu> hi
[09:19] <ubuntu> good morning........jim
[09:20] <_rince_> morning
[09:20] <_rince_> is it normal that thunderbird is missing the taskbar icon?
[09:21] <_rince_> it just displays an X instead of an evelope or something similar
[09:21] <ubuntu>  zxxcvbnnm,l878'''''00e56hyygfbslo897'-[9uf
[09:22] <ubuntu> rfedymkliu';pp9uluiygtrh
[09:23] <ubuntu> dsv tdyhjhio;'kyuftrg5s
[09:24] <ubuntu> sorru jlm
[09:25] <ubuntu> sorry....
[09:26] <ubuntu> need coffee................
[09:28] <ubuntu> need coffee................I am Hal.......
[09:29] <ubuntu> your computer.
[09:29] <draik> Anyone here have/use Photogenics?
[09:29] <ubuntu> no
[09:31] <ubuntu> what time is it........carla?
[09:31] <ubuntu> ...................earth..................time.................
[09:32] <ubuntu> ...................hello????????????????
[09:32] <emonkey> hm?
[09:33] <CaptainMorgan> where do I find the options for hotkeys?
[09:33] <ubuntu> frank?
[09:33] <emonkey> CaptainMorgan, in the system settings
[09:33] <ubuntu> use help.....................cm
[09:33] <CaptainMorgan> emonkey:  got that far on my own, where next?
[09:34] <CaptainMorgan> keyboard?
[09:34] <CaptainMorgan> nope
[09:34] <abattoir> ubuntu: could you stop that please?
[09:34] <emonkey> CaptainMorgan, I don't know the name in english but its the icon with the flags
[09:34] <abattoir> CaptainMorgan: try Regional and Accessibility
[09:34] <abattoir> :)
[09:34] <CaptainMorgan> great, thanks
[09:34] <emonkey> yes this one
[09:34] <ubuntu__> hello.. please help.. how i can reinstall grub? i was reinstall WinXP and my MBR was rewriting.. so i can only load in winXP but not in kubuntu
[09:34] <abattoir> !grub
[09:34] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:35] <CaptainMorgan> odd tho.. why wouldn't it be found within keyboard :(
[09:35] <abattoir> ubuntu__: ^^^^
[09:35] <ubuntu__> thanks
[09:38] <ubuntu> sorry abattoir..........
[09:40] <llxcamxll> You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[09:40] <llxcamxll> there aren't any open?
[09:46] <slamice> Does anyone know if any advanced multitrack sound freeware is available through kubuntu?
[09:47] <slamice> .......
[09:52] <ubuntu> hi
[09:56] <slamice> hey
[09:56] <slamice> ubuntu?
[09:59] <ubuntu> test>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
[09:59] <ubuntu> ok
[10:07] <KC> Hello everyone?
[10:15] <QuirkyCarla> why is everything in german_
[10:19] <thomas> How does this irc work
[10:21] <QuirkyCarla> how do i change the language on kubuntu
[10:32] <Dargor> anyone know of any spider solitaire clones
[10:39] <abattoir> !info kpat
[10:39] <ubotu> kpat: KDE solitaire patience game. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 318 kB, installed size 792 kB
[10:40] <abattoir> hmm, he's left...
[10:40] <Jucato> huh?
[10:40] <Jucato> oh....
[10:40] <abattoir> * he has left :P
[10:42] <liviux> Hi all. I've got a problem: I downloaded the w32codecs but can't read some video format.   I've mounted a windows fat32 partition to use the Firefox profile in both OS..  since today ff crashes and I lose my write rights on this partition until I remount it :|
[11:27] <sakitel> but i can't, i think i have a problem with the repositry
[11:28] <ubuntu_> hello, can i ask a newbie info to someone?
[11:28] <sakitel> hi , i want to install cacti
[11:28] <sakitel> but i can't, i think i have a problem with the repositry
[11:29] <zorglu_> ubuntu_: just ask
[11:29] <Jucato> sakitel: what problem are you having?
[11:30] <sakitel> it said:   cacti: Depende: mysql-client
[11:30] <heXLer> can somebody help me plz ?
[11:30] <ubuntu_> when i try to install a package the system tells me i don't have c++ libraries and i'm sure i have them or i do not have them in the usual place, how can i configure?
[11:31] <Jucato> sakitel: do you have your "main" repoisitory enabled?
[11:31] <sakitel> i think so
[11:31] <Jucato> ubuntu_: are you trying to compile something?
[11:31] <Electrolyte> Does Adept/atp have a setting to show an icon in the systray when updates are available?
[11:32] <Jucato> Electrolyte: Adept has, it's called Adept Notifier
[11:32] <Electrolyte> Ah ok, I had best start looking for it then.
[11:32] <Jucato> it starts up automatically when you start KDE
[11:32] <sakitel> i was uncoment some lines, and I added some lines
[11:32] <Electrolyte> I closed it and can't find it again :/
[11:32] <Jucato> Electrolyte: "adept_notifier"
[11:32] <Electrolyte> Ah, thanks.
[11:33] <sakitel> jucato: i was uncoment some lines, and I added some lines
[11:33] <Electrolyte> There we go, running.
[11:34] <Jucato> sakitel: what line did you uncomment and what did you add? you need to have something like this line enabled so that you could install mysql-client "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted"
[11:38] <zorglu_> q. is there a way to prevent firefox from 'beeping' when a search in the webpage is not found ?
[11:39] <sakitel> jucato: Could I send you the file "sources.list" to check that please?
[11:39] <Jucato> sakitel: paste it in pastebin
[11:39] <Jucato> !pastebin
[11:39] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:40] <Jucato> use pastebin then once you hit send, give the URL
[11:40] <sakitel> ok
[11:43] <thomas_> I have some questions about Konsole and why it will not work
[11:43] <Jucato> what doesn't work?
[11:44] <thomas_> I try and install tar.gz and it always says it can not find directory
[11:44] <heXLer> Hi  my mounted partition isn't stable since this morning  can somebody help me ?
[11:45] <Jucato> thomas_: how are you trying to "install" it?
[11:45] <thomas_> First of all does this look right to you thomas@thomas-desktop:~$
[11:46] <thomas_> When I looked at a book on Ubuntu it only had the name once
[11:46] <Jucato> yes
$
[11:47] <Jucato> that's the normal prompt
[11:47] <sakitel> jucato: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24969
[11:47] <sakitel> jucato: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24969
[11:47] <thomas_> root@thomas-desktop:/home/thomas#
[11:48] <Jucato> thomas_: why are you logged in as root?
[11:48] <zorglu_> paste.ubuntu-nl.org takes a lot of time to connect from here, am i the only one ?
[11:48] <Jucato> it's very random zorglu_...
[11:48] <thomas_> that is what it says you are not lodded in as root to ibstall
[11:48] <zorglu_> Jucato: ok
[11:49] <Jucato> thomas_: you should not log in as root. Ubuntu uses sudo for that
[11:49] <Jucato> !sudo
[11:49] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:49] <HabaKKuk> !apt
[11:49] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[11:49] <Jucato> thomas_: btw, what are you trying to install? have you checked if it's available in the repositories?
[11:49] <HabaKKuk> !root
[11:49] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:49] <HabaKKuk> ;]
[11:50] <thomas_> I type in sudo
[11:50] <Jucato> sakitel: I'm confused, what are you running? Dapper or Breezy
[11:50] <Jucato> HabaKKuk: you only repeated what I did :P
[11:50] <thomas_> it as for the password
[11:50] <thomas_> I enter it
[11:50] <HabaKKuk> Jucato: i know
[11:50] <HabaKKuk> ;]
[11:51] <sakitel> jucato: I don't know what is Dapper, sorry i am new
[11:51] <thomas_> as soon as you try to install a tar it says you are not logged in as root to install this file
[11:51] <Jucato> sakitel: can you please type this in Konsole and give me the line with "Description:": lsb_release -a
[11:52] <Jucato> sakitel: Dapper is the code name for the current release of Kubuntu, Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Long Term Support)
[11:52] <Jucato> thomas_: you use sudo like this: "sudo <sommand>"
[11:52] <sakitel> jucato: It said dapper
[11:53] <Jucato> sakitel: your sources.list is all wrong. it still says "breezy" (previous release)
[11:53] <Jucato> thomas_: what are you trying to install? it might already be in the repositories.
[11:53] <Jucato> sakitel: where did you get that sources.list?
[11:53] <sakitel> thomas_:use the same pass for your sesion "thomas"
[11:54] <sakitel> in a tutorial
[11:54] <sakitel> jucato: in a tutorial
[11:54] <Jucato> sakitel: that tutorial is old.
[11:55] <sakitel> jucato: http://www.guia-ubuntu.org/breezy/repositorios
[11:55] <Jucato> sakitel: see the URL says "breezy" which is the previous release. it's old
[11:55] <sakitel> jucato: they said just copy this and in source.list
[11:55] <Jucato> yes I know. but the repositories that it is using is for Breezy, not Dapper
[11:57] <sakitel> ok
[11:57] <sakitel> jucato: so now i have to search another source.list
[11:57] <Jucato> un momento, por favor (the only bit of Spanish I know...)
[11:58] <Jucato> sakitel: http://www.guia-ubuntu.org/dapper/index.php/Portada
[11:59] <Jucato> I think it has the proper updated guides there
[11:59] <sakitel> thanks
[11:59] <Jucato> err...
[11:59] <Jucato> hm.. sakitel
[11:59] <Jucato> you are using Kubuntu right?
[11:59] <sakitel> right
[12:00] <Jucato> oh, the guide seems to be for Ubuntu
[12:00] <Jucato> you can get a new sources.list from this site. just follow carefully the instructions: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/sources
[12:01] <Jucato> and do not include these two: "deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/ dapper free non-free" and "deb-src http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/ dapper free non-free"
[12:01] <Jucato> sakitel: just make sure you add the ones with "dapper", not "breezy"
[12:02] <sakitel> jucato: thanks, i was thinking that i can use the same files for ububuntu
[12:03] <Jucato> sakitel: you can use the same repositories from Ubuntu, but the guide shows apps from Ubuntu only
[12:03] <SAngeli> Hi, I am having troubles configuring my usb digital camera (digiKam). FujiFilm E550 usb. Anyone can please help?
[12:04] <sakitel> jucato: thanks a lot
[12:07] <SAngeli> Hi, I am having troubles configuring my usb digital camera (digiKam). FujiFilm E550 usb. Anyone can please help?
[12:09] <Raul12> :)
[12:10] <Schalken> how come when I select 'Start or install Kubuntu' it says 'I/O could not read CD [Reboot] '?
[12:11] <Schalken> i checked the md5
[12:12] <sakitel> SAngeli: I have the same problem but my camera is a genius VideoCAM Eye
[12:12] <sakitel> SAngeli: the problem is the manufacturer doesn't make a driver for linux, i hate them
[12:13] <Schalken> and Ubuntu worked on the same CD-RW.
[12:13] <tobias> hi! A new problem turned up just this instant. No browser can open a website that contains a flash-object. I tested it thoroughly and also tried downgrading the non-free flashplugin as well as only trying to use the gpl-flash package. Former produces a non-responding browser, latter crashes the browser completely. As I'm a webdesigner, this is a major problem. Anyone got an idea what might fix this?
[12:14] <Jucato> Schalken: possibly a bad burn? there's an option to check the install CD when you boot. give it a try
[12:15] <Jucato> tobias: can you give an example of a site with that flash-object?
[12:15] <Schalken> Jucato: yes when i select that i get the same error.
[12:15] <Raul12> hi guys
[12:16] <tobias> Jucato: Pick any... the problem occurs on every website that has a flash-object. I tested it on a website I manage as well as on Google-Video - Just to be sure it's not my flash-movie... This problem never occured before and the website worked just fine.
[12:17] <Jucato> tobias: Google Video works here...
[12:18] <tobias> I now downloaded the Firefox flashblock-extension, which will - after 30 seconds of waiting - at least allow me to view the site without the flash-movie.
[12:18] <jelle> so, Hi. Is there anyone who can tell me anything about the following 'translucency' bug: translucency works great for me in all windows accept in Konqueror. When I deselect the window, it becomes translucent but when I select it again it should come up with full opacity. The problem is, it doesn't. It keeps it's opacity
[12:19] <tobias> Jucato: I don't know why this happens ... Adept tried to upgrade the Flash-Plugin several times in the last week, but the configuration-process in the terminal always failed. Then, one day, it just passed the config without any hassle. I thought the problem fixed itself.
[12:20] <tobias> Jucato: But now it seems it only got worse!
[12:21] <Jucato> hm....
[12:23] <tobias> Jucato: Odd problem, is it not? Maybe I'll just live another week without Flash & then hope that another package-upgrade will fix it... ;-)
[12:24] <Jucato> have you tried removing and reinstalling flahshplugin-nonfree (in the command line)
[12:28] <tobias> Jucato: No, not in the command-line, but with Synaptic (I like Synaptic better than Adept..) I did this like three times already ... and once I deleted the flash-non-free package in Synaptic and let Firefox itself download & install the 'missing plugin to display the contents of this website'... all with the same results.
[12:28] <zorglu_> to follow jugato suggestion seems a good idea from here :)
[12:31] <zorglu_> !flash
[12:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:31] <zorglu_> hmm the ubotu suggestion are too broad
[12:31] <zorglu_> people no more read them as they dont find what they want quicly enougth
[12:32] <zorglu_> the relation between flash and mp3 issue and their solution is non obvious, but still uboto provide the same links
[12:33] <zorglu_> tobias: there is a page somewhere about installing flash in command line
[12:33] <zorglu_> somwhere in the ubuntu wiki
[12:36] <tobias> zorglu_: What is the difference between the messages in the terminal-window of e.g. Synaptic and a real console? Will I get useful information I won't see otherwise?
[12:38] <MDCore> this link might help too: http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu/
[12:38] <zorglu_> possibly
[12:38] <MDCore> (re the flash thing )
[12:39] <zorglu_> as an example adept as issue to install some stuff because the installer requires some human interaction and adept doesnt handle it
[12:39] <zorglu_> i dunno about synaptic
[12:40] <roconnor> Can I configure KDE to not have application steal keyboard focus when I'm busy typing in a windo?
[12:41] <roconnor> window
[12:41] <zorglu_> dunno, but it is clearly something usefull
[12:41] <zorglu_> it happen to me a lot too
[12:41] <roconnor> gnome has _NET_WM_STATE_DEMANDS_ATTENTION
[12:41] <zorglu_> may ask on #kde
[12:41] <Jucato> roconnor: try pressing Alt+F3 Advanced > Special Window Settings > Workarounds tab
[12:42] <Jucato> I'm not sure if that's what you're looking for, though...
[12:42] <roconnor> Jucato: interesting
[12:42] <zorglu_> isnt kde nice :)
[12:42] <roconnor> Jucato: how long lived are those settings
[12:43] <zorglu_> all options are there available, up to you to find the one you want :)
[12:43] <roconnor> just for the session, or whenever I use that application?
[12:43] <Jucato> as long as you don't change/remove them
[12:43] <zorglu_> it is per window, according to a popup i got
[12:43] <roconnor> Jucato: I'll try out this focus stealing prevension
[12:44] <Jucato> and you can view all the exsistng window/application "rules" in System Settings > Desktop > Window-Specific Settings
[12:45] <roconnor> Ah, there is a setting for focus stealing prevention there
[12:46] <roconnor> I changed it from Low to High
[12:46] <roconnor> Maybe it will help
[12:51] <digitolian> help needed
[12:51] <digitolian> where to fine nvidia kernel source
[12:52] <digitolian> xorg
[12:53] <martin_> digitolian: What are you going to try?
[12:53] <digitolian> would like to install the nvidia kernel source so I can get the driver working
[12:54] <martin_> You mean the free driver or the non-free nvidia one?
[12:54] <zorglu_> !nvidia
[12:54] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:55] <digitolian> I dont need a how to I need the source
[12:56] <zorglu_> so get them :)
[12:56] <martin_> http://www.nvidia.com/page/partner_certified_drivers.html ?
[12:56] <martin_> I'm not sure what you really want.
[12:56] <zorglu_> he want the soruce of the nvidia driver
[12:57] <zorglu_> unclear as of why nor which driver he is talking about tho
[12:57] <digitolian> martin can you read
[12:57] <zorglu_> and he is not very polite :)
[12:57] <martin_> nope, I'm just guessing what you might want ;-)
[12:57] <digitolian> this is a fact
[12:57] <Jucato> digitolian: can you post the link where you are getting the instructions for installing nvidia drivers?
[12:58] <digitolian> ok look the nvidia driver needs 5 bineries to install
[12:58] <Jucato> 5 binaries?
[12:58] <martin_> Are you sure you can read? :-P
[12:59] <zorglu_> hehe :)
[12:59] <digitolian> nvidia-glx,nvidia-glxDev,nvidia-kernel-common,nvidia-kernel-source
[12:59] <martin_> The binaries at the website are for different architectures.
[12:59] <liviux> Do sombody use ktranslator or however another program which need dictionary?
[12:59] <martin_> So pick the right one.
[12:59] <Jucato> hm.. you need nvidia-glx-dev?
[12:59] <digitolian> in adapt that what they look like
[12:59] <Jucato> digitolian: just nvidia-glx
[01:00] <digitolian> the 5th one isn't needed i just have it installd it's nvclock-glx
[01:00] <Jucato> then install the linux-restricted-modules that matches your linux-image-xxxx version
[01:00] <digitolian> so i am running 15-27 386
[01:00] <digitolian> ok i'll try that but I am sure it didn't work before
[01:01] <Jucato> then get the linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-386
[01:01] <Jucato> heh :)
[01:01] <martin_> digitolian: What precisely didn't work before there?
[01:02] <digitolian>  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-386 not in my repositorys
[01:02] <digitolian> only
[01:02] <digitolian>  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-386
[01:02] <digitolian> and that one is already installed
[01:02] <Jucato> digitolian: you need to enable dapper-security "restricted" to get that
[01:03] <digitolian> I have installed the 27 kernel thos
[01:03] <martin_> Uhm, right, I can't find it here either :-(
[01:03] <digitolian> could you give me the Repository I dont seem to have it
[01:04] <digitolian> deb and debsrc
[01:04] <Jucato> digitolian: add "restricted" to the "deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main" line if it isn't there
[01:04] <digitolian> in adapt type nvidia
[01:05] <digitolian> you will see what I am talking about if you have an nvidia kard you should have the 2 glx and the 2 kernel modules installed
[01:05] <Jucato> I already said that you only need to mark nvidia-glx
[01:05] <digitolian> I have another box with a nvidia card and it works supper fine there
[01:05] <Jucato> if the other nvidia packages are needed, they will be marked automatically
[01:06] <digitolian> I thought so but it seems that nvidia-kernel-source is in a diffrent repository
[01:06] <llxcamxll> does cedega work on kubuntu??
[01:06] <Jucato> in the meantime, have you already installed the proper linux-restricted-modules?
[01:07] <digitolian> yes cedega will work if you get your device's like screen card and sound installed proply
[01:07] <Linux_Galore> llxcamxll: Linux is Linux, cedega is will work fine
[01:08] <digitolian> there is a diffrence between work and run
[01:08] <Linux_Galore> I wouldn't pay for cedega though, they dont submit anything back to the wine project
[01:09] <Linux_Galore> I "will" page for codeweavers though they "do" submit code back to wine
[01:09] <Linux_Galore> s/page/pay/
[01:09] <Jucato> I hope that next time, people will be more specific and say "help demanded" instead of "help needed"...
[01:10] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: yeah, tell them the "demand" rate is $80 an hour
[01:10] <Jucato> :)
[01:10] <Linux_Galore> Im surprised no one has setup a paypal "help on demand" rig
[01:11] <Jucato> heh...
[01:11] <Jucato> probably because the IRC falls under the "free" support options...
[01:11] <Linux_Galore> use the money to help some of our projects along
[01:11] <martin_> Any sane-specialists here? A formerly running scanner refuses to work with my new computer properly.
[01:11] <Linux_Galore> well if the money goes back into FOSS software as a donation Im fine with that
[01:12] <Jucato> :P
[01:12] <Linux_Galore> martin_: did you check the logs
[01:12] <martin_> The problem is that it is recognized but when it should start to scan it switches off the lamp, runs over the whole scan-area and still tries to continue ;-)
[01:13] <martin_> It's a parport-scanner, running with the plustek_pp-backend.
[01:14] <martin_> the logs don't say too much at all :-(
[01:15] <Linux_Galore> martin_: whats the brand/model
[01:16] <martin_> Plustek OpticPro 600P
[01:16] <martin_> And that's what it is recognized as.
[01:16] <martin_> On my former computer it ran smoothly without any problems.
[01:17] <martin_> Parport bios-settings are epp 1.9
[01:18] <Linux_Galore> martin_: hmm wonder if you kernel has the pt_drv  driver
[01:18] <martin_> Doesn't need at all, but nevertheless I've tried with this one. When I load the module it recognizes the scanner but gives some bad output in dmesg
[01:20] <martin_> The output in dmesg says in short that there was a little kernel-oops and I should rather restart my computer.
[01:20] <martin_> But anyhow, it worked with my former computer over the parport with direct access.
[01:21] <sakitel> jucato: are u there?
[01:22] <sakitel> anybody who use the openofice in spanish????
[01:23] <Linux_Galore> martin_: found a howto on configuring the plustec back end that sane uses -> http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man5/sane-plustek_pp.5.html
[01:23] <Linux_Galore> plustek*
[01:23] <sakitel> anybody who use the openofice in spanish????
[01:24] <zorglu_> !es
[01:24] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:24] <zorglu_> sakitel: no need for multiple ? too :)
[01:24] <martin_> Linux_Galore: Thx, that's the manpage that I've read several times already :)
[01:25] <sakitel> zorglu_: do you use the openoffice in spanish
[01:25] <sakitel> or another language
[01:25] <j2daosh> whats up?
[01:25] <j2daosh> anyone in here use NX?
[01:25] <asraniel> hi, i need urgent help. When i try to install a printer on the laptop of my girlfriend and i try to chose a driver, i always get a error that this driver does not exist or that i dont have the rights. but i started kcontrol as root.. can anybody help me?
[01:27] <zorglu_> sakitel: nope i dont use openoffice
[01:27] <j2daosh> asraniel: are you trying to install to network printer? or local?
[01:27] <Linux_Galore> martin_: found a page with what the defaults should be -> http://www.atlas.uni-wuppertal.de/~sandvoss/linux/root/scanner.txt
[01:28] <Linux_Galore> martin_: and its for you model scanner
[01:28] <sakitel> my problem is i can't use the spellcheck in my language
[01:28] <martin_> Linux_Galore: I'll try it, thx!
[01:29] <sakitel> my problem is i can't use the spellcheck in my language(spanish)
[01:29] <Linux_Galore> martin_: basically it shows whats needed and in set conf files what should be there
[01:30] <sakitel> my problem is i can't use the spellcheck from openoffice in my language(spanish)
[01:30] <Linux_Galore> sakitel: you can add dictionaries
[01:30] <sakitel> :D
[01:30] <martin_> Most of it already exists, some single lines are different. But what makes me wonder is that the lamp switches off before scanning. Quite unusual for a scanner...
[01:30] <Linux_Galore> sakitel: if they have a dictionary for Australia trust me there is one for spannish
[01:31] <sakitel> Linux_Galore: how can i do that?
[01:31] <sakitel> Linux_Galore: how i can  do that?
[01:32] <j2daosh> anyone have the freedict language packs?
[01:32] <Linux_Galore> sakitel: hold on a sec let me power up my kubuntu machine
[01:33] <martin_> Linux_Galore: there was it again. Waited its 30s for preheating the lamp, lamp went in position, switched off, ran over the whole scan area and "crashed" at the case of the scanner :-(
[01:33] <sakitel> Linux_Galore: thanks
[01:35] <Linux_Galore> sakitel: there is an openoffice dictionary file you can add with adept
[01:35] <Linux_Galore> that supports spannish
[01:37] <elias_> do you know a great simple wiki for documentation purpose?
[01:37] <elias_> do you know anything my grandmother could handle?
[01:38] <elias_> something that guids the users while editing
[01:39] <Linux_Galore> elias_: hmm kwiki
[01:39] <zorglu_> elias_: i use media wiki for this exact purpose
[01:39] <j2daosh> ok... i need to learn another language... does linux have software for that?
[01:39] <zorglu_> not my grandmother, but documentation :)
[01:39] <Linux_Galore> j2daosh: yep
[01:39] <zorglu_> j2daosh: yes. look at kde-edu or eduubuntu
[01:40] <j2daosh> i have that running... what is the program?
[01:40] <zorglu_> dunno :) but there are some
[01:40] <j2daosh> lol
[01:40] <zorglu_> sure they will be advertized in kde edu or edu ubuntu
[01:41] <elias_> I am looking for something especially for documenting my network. So I was thinking about something that helps me to keep data to all my machines/IPs and allows me to automatically create lists from all IPs/machines. Is there a way to define templates that help me with that in either of the above?
[01:41] <zorglu_> elias_: this is very specific :)
[01:41] <zorglu_> elias_: look at all the network admin stuff
[01:41] <elias_> where to find the network admin stuff?
[01:42] <zorglu_> googling for you, 1min
[01:42] <sakitel> Linux_Galore: ?...where did u say?
[01:42] <martin_> Hm... none of my tries about my parport-scanner worked out, so I'll plug in my former computer again to test/copie configs, maybe it works... thx anyway.
[01:42] <j2daosh> what are you needing elias_?
[01:43] <zorglu_> elias_: didnt find anything usefull sorry
[01:43] <smjor> Hello. I have a question regarding the adept-notifier icon. Is it supposed to stay in the systray, or disappear?
[01:43] <j2daosh> what is he/she needing?
[01:44] <j2daosh> smjor: depends... have you updated everything?
[01:44] <j2daosh> if you have and you dont want it... right click, exit and when it pops up asking about running at startup say no
[01:44] <j2daosh> also, by default, anything you leave open when you shutdown will come up on the next startup
[01:45] <smjor> Yes, system up do date. When I log in, green icon appears and disappears after a few seconds. But sometimes it stays in the tray
[01:45] <j2daosh> so if you left it up and then did a shutdown it will come up the next time your computer loads
[01:45] <smjor> Not the case with this icon
[01:45] <smjor> I have described the problem in detail here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=266275
[01:46] <j2daosh> you should be able to right click it when in the systray and close, then say no to startup... thats what i did for mine anyway
[01:46] <smjor> If anyone can take a look, i'd appreciate it
[01:46] <smjor> But I want the icon there. If its supposed to be there...
[01:47] <j2daosh> it just depends on you.... think of it like the systray on windows.... whatever you have starting will be there at startup... if you dont want it... take it out... if you do... leave it there
[01:48] <Linux_Galore> smjor: thats normal
[01:49] <smjor> No, thats the problem! The icons behaviour is NOT consistant.
[01:49] <smjor> Linux_Galore, do you have the same problem?
[01:49] <j2daosh> smjor... there have been quite a bit of updates recently.... its most likely your seeing it pop up and stay when it finds something it needs to update
[01:50] <j2daosh> other times it comes up, scans, sees nothing to update and goes away
[01:51] <smjor> But then, why doesn't it go away sometimes?
[01:51] <j2daosh> because there is nothing on your system to update
[01:51] <Linux_Galore> smjor: the green icon just means it making a connection, of the time varies that might be a network issue
[01:51] <Linux_Galore> if*
[01:51] <j2daosh> is he talking about the icon in systray or the green light at the top left?
[01:52] <j2daosh> gimme a sec ill go read it
[01:54] <j2daosh> Linux_Galore: is correct about the green icon (not in the systray). its just showing the connection
[01:54] <reisi> hi everyone! how do i check from www for example, which version is the *ubuntu nvidia driver...?
[01:54] <Linux_Galore> j2daosh: just saying the icon doesn't always appear for the same periods, on my normal DSL setup and at work the icons pope up very fast and disappears, but on dial up its there for a while
[01:55] <j2daosh> the systray icon on the other hand... that could be several things
[01:55] <j2daosh> 1- you didn't close that from last time you logged out
[01:55] <j2daosh> 2- it was set to startup at computer start
[01:55] <j2daosh> 3-it saw updates and needed your attention
[01:55] <j2daosh> 4-you manually ran the program
[01:56] <b0konon> Hi, i accidentally installed kubuntu over the windows partition, i am reinstalling windows. i know that its quite difficult to get the boot screen back
[01:56] <b0konon> wanted to ask though, whether its possible-
[01:56] <Linux_Galore> j2daosh: thats the cli command to start google earth
[01:57] <j2daosh> yes it is possible
[01:57] <b0konon> using the grub shell-
[01:57] <Linux_Galore> whats*
[01:57] <j2daosh> never used google earth
[01:57] <b0konon> j2daosh- so all i need to do is grub install (hd0) ?
[01:57] <j2daosh> in essence.... yes
[01:58] <j2daosh> much easier said then done
[01:58] <j2daosh> lol
[01:58] <j2daosh> when it happened to me it kept taking grub errors at stage 2
[01:58] <j2daosh> maybe you will have better luck
[01:59] <MDCore> how do I get my skype contacts into kopete? I've installed the relevant plugins (I think) but I don't see an option to add an account or anything about skype in the plugins.
[01:59] <b0konon> or someth like that- havent used the grub shell since gentoo- yeah, i remember, ubuntu is much difficult to configure from the command line- especially compared to gentoo.
[01:59] <j2daosh> brb need to log out and log back in with irssi
[01:59] <b0konon> anywhos, will look up some docs. thanks.
[01:59] <j2daosh> you should be able to use the ubuntu disk
[02:00] <j2daosh> pop it in under live mode, bring up a shell, mount the harddrive, then run the grub installer
[02:00] <j2daosh> *should* being the key word, i would double check but that is most likely the easiest way to do it
[02:01] <smjor> OK, thanks guys. So its normal for the green circle icon to appear/disappear depending on the time it takes to check for updates etc?
[02:01] <b0konon> ok, lets see whether the easiest way turn out to be that easy- most of the times I've seen myself getting into more trouble trying to take the shortcut :P
[02:06] <smjor> OK, i'm sorry if i'm nagging about this, but afaik, adept-notifier is started via shortcut in /usr/share/autostart. So i its just checking for updates, it should _always_ go away (give or take a few seconds) if none are available?
[02:06] <kubuntu> hello
[02:07] <lucian> hy
[02:11] <kubuntu> I need to write a script (sed, perl?) to parse a text file containing things like "onetag{filename};anothertag{filename};..." and extract a list of filenames that are declared using "onetag", for example. Someone can help me??
[02:13] <SeanTater> kubuntu: it sounds likte you want the script to say almost the same thing as what it is given..
[02:14] <SeanTater> kubuntu: It sounds like something perl would be good at --
[02:21] <stu_> I'm failing to see any obvious advantages of using a linux desktop - am I missing something obvious other than its free ?
[02:21] <zorglu_> obviously depends of what you need/want :)
[02:21] <abattoir> stu_: depends on what you're looking for ;)
[02:21] <zorglu_> me first :)
[02:21] <abattoir> zorglu_: hah, you beat me to it :P
[02:22] <abattoir> again :P
[02:22] <zorglu_> again ? :)
[02:22] <abattoir> no, when you said 'me first..'
[02:22] <zorglu_> aha ok :)
[02:22] <zorglu_> double race :)
[02:22] <MDCore> stu_: it does depend a lot on what you are using it for. I find, though, that the software is much better integrated than on, say, windows.
[02:23] <zorglu_> well linux is free of charge, have more software, and run faster, but support less hardware
[02:23] <stu_> MDCore: could you give me an example ?
[02:23] <stu_> I find it runs slower tbh
[02:24] <stu_> however I will say memory management is obviously better
[02:24] <MDCore> stu_: well, for example, I like using the K-apps where I can. The benefit there is that the look and feel is largely the same across apps. A nice thing for me: I _love_ keyboard shortcuts.. and in KDE you can set keyboard shortcuts for all your apps in one place (the control panel)
[02:24] <zorglu_> stu_: one other point, is that ubuntu, and linux in general, wants its users to be happy, if you are not happy with linux, there is no reason to use it :)
[02:25] <stu_> I'm happy with it, but only because I think its amazing what they have done
[02:25] <MDCore> stu_: also, I find that I can fire up my package manager, and find software that does what I need to do. the package manager takes care of installing it, setting it up etc. And it will just as easily remove it.
[02:25] <stu_> its incredible how far the gui has come and how easy it is to use
[02:26] <stu_> my main problem at the moment is I cant get it to look the way I want it to... perhaps you guys can help - firstly, can I have my task bar two rows of application high - like in windows as I always have so much stuff open
[02:27] <abattoir> stu_: sure rt. click on it->Configure Panel
[02:27] <abattoir> stu_: then you can choose the size there
[02:28] <stu_> right, that kind of worked but now its made the icons for the k-menu etc so large they are taking up half the width
[02:28] <zorglu_> hmm i think you may look at the docking apps if you have no many apps runnin
[02:28] <zorglu_> what is it ?
[02:29] <zorglu_> kdock ? and the other in 3d ?
[02:29] <zorglu_> no=so
[02:29] <Jucato> stu_: try a Custom size of 48
[02:29] <abattoir> zorglu_: kxdocker ?
[02:29] <zorglu_> abattoir: thanks
[02:29] <MDCore> stu_: also, use multiple desktops!
[02:29] <zorglu_> and have the window in the taskbar from only the current desktop
[02:30] <MDCore> ditto :)
[02:30] <stu_> yeah multiple desktops are ok, except the icons for the desktop are also friggin huge
[02:30] <abattoir> stu_: you mean on the desktop or in the panel?
[02:30] <stu_> panel
[02:30] <zorglu_> i have 6 desktop and rarely got more than 2-3 windows per desktop
[02:30] <Jucato> stu_: have you tried what I recommended?
[02:30] <stu_> this size of 48 is cool cos now I get two rows of open applications
[02:30] <stu_> but still the icons are to large
[02:31] <MDCore> stu_: the kmenu icons ?
[02:31] <zorglu_> stu_: what i ask what are those applications that you run ? i mean why do you have so many
[02:31] <stu_> aye, and the desktop selection ones
[02:31] <Jucato> stu_: the size of the icons (K Menu, etc) depend on the size of the panel. so you either have smaller icons or 2 rows of system tray icons.
[02:31] <Jucato> I don't think you can have both without some editing
[02:31] <stu_> web browser, konsole, remote dekstop, email client, another konsole
[02:31] <stu_> etc
[02:31] <MDCore> stu_: Add the quick launcher applet.
[02:31] <stu_> file browser
[02:32] <MDCore> it is a lot like windows' Quick Launch bar. Small icons
[02:32] <zorglu_> stu_: hue, i run all that simulatenaously without any crowded taskbar
[02:32] <MDCore> I just added it now and I have two rows of small icons (not huge like the kmenu)
[02:32] <MDCore> maybe just leave the kmenu button as a big "Start Button"
[02:32] <stu_> max res on this laptop is 1024 tho :/
[02:32] <Jucato> same as mine :)
[02:33] <Jucato> I auto hide my panels :P
[02:33] <zorglu_> stu_: same here, i think it is just a matter of configuration, you dont seems to have an unuusal number of apps running
[02:33] <stu_> what about the size of the icons in what windows call the system tray ?
[02:33] <zorglu_> same name in linux
[02:33] <Jucato> stu_: that's also set to a specific size
[02:33] <zorglu_> yeah what about them
[02:33] <MDCore> ah.. tricky.. on KDE that's called.. the system tray :D
[02:34] <pascal_> when I run glxinfo I get the following error: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[02:34] <pascal_> what can I do?
[02:34] <Jucato> on GNOME, it's called the notification tray actually
[02:34] <pascal_> I just installed the fglrx driver
[02:34] <stu_> yeh in gnome I didnt have this problem
[02:34] <MDCore> strange.. I've got pretty small icons in my system tray.
[02:35] <stu_> they are what you could small, but they could be smaller
[02:35] <Jucato> stu_: icons in the system tray don't change size, no matter the size of the panel
[02:36] <zorglu_> stu_: play with the configuration, you will reach what you need
[02:36] <MDCore> I agree with zorg... it took me a while, but eventually I got it looking right. just play with the settings
[02:37] <zorglu_> took me a week between install and having a nice desktop as i like it
[02:37] <stu_> you how when you hover over something you get that popup description, can I make that text only ?
[02:37] <stu_> yeah its slowly getting better
[02:37] <MDCore> yeah
[02:37] <MDCore> in the panels option in control pannel
[02:37] <MDCore> (panel)
[02:37] <MDCore> untick Enable icon mouseover effects
[02:37] <MDCore> but leave "show tooltips" ticked
[02:38] <stu_> now only the system tray gives me a description
[02:38] <stu_> grr
[02:39] <stu_> anyone got an IBM thinkpad here?
[02:40] <crimsun> yep.
[02:40] <stu_> you get the buttons working? volume etc?
[02:40] <stu_> tells me to insmod nvram
[02:40] <stu_> but I aint got that module
[02:41] <stu_> ah, heres a question I've been meaning to ask - is there a show desktop button ??
[02:41] <lupine_85> ah, ok
[02:41] <lupine_85> stu_: thre's a show desktop plugin you can bind to a keypress
[02:42] <lupine_85> erm, oops
[02:42] <lupine_85> ignore me
[02:42] <stu_> lol
[02:43] <zorglu_> yep it is an applet
[02:44] <zeeo> Hi i'm trying to get my wireless to work
[02:44] <zeeo> not having a lot of luck
[02:44] <zeeo> when i try to enable the card it just disables
[02:44] <zeeo> i installed the windows drivers
[02:44] <stu_> using ndiswrapper ?
[02:44] <zeeo> ya
[02:45] <stu_> and modprobe ndiswrapper gives you what you would expect?
[02:45] <zeeo> no error
[02:45] <stu_> ages since I used ndiswrapper
[02:46] <stu_> iwlist scanning give you anything
[02:46] <zeeo> 1sec
[02:46] <DaNET5229> Hi all
[02:46] <stu_> or is iwlist for madwifi ?
[02:46] <stu_> hmm
[02:46] <zeeo> apt-get install wpasupplicant
[02:46] <zeeo> oops
[02:46] <zeeo> heh
[02:47] <zeeo> eth1      Interface doesn't support scanning : No such device
[02:47] <skylve> I've one probs :( I can't load kubuntu ... I can acces to it with Putty but it block on load screen ...
[02:47] <zeeo> like i say
[02:47] <zeeo> i can't enable it
[02:47] <zorglu_> skylve: what is the last line it display ?
[02:48] <zorglu_> the stuff below the 'kubuntu + progress bar"
[02:48] <zeeo> how can i get more debuging info
[02:48] <zeeo> on the card
[02:48] <zeeo> try to find out whare it is failing
[02:51] <zeeo> root@zeeo-laptop:~# ndiswrapper -l
[02:51] <zeeo> Installed ndis drivers:
[02:51] <zeeo> lsbcmnds                driver present, hardware present
[02:51] <skylve> Zorglu_ : It load all things ... But after there is a screen with just Kubuntu+progress bar
[02:52] <stu_> ive installed kxdocker but failing to figure what its supposed to do
[02:52] <stu_> ive got an icon in my system tray... thats about it
[02:53] <skylve> Zorglu are u here ?
[02:56] <stu_> ah it was hiding under the task bar thing
[03:06] <omar> hello, there are some web pages in flash that I cannot see. However others open easyly, what can I do
[03:07] <omar> I have firefox
[03:07] <CVirus> maybe they are flash 8 websites ?
[03:08] <omar> CVirus: what can I do
[03:08] <CVirus> omar: wait for the release of a flash 8 version for linux
[03:08] <omar> CVirus: but I used to use those pages with linux
[03:09] <CVirus> omar: no idea then
[03:10] <omar> CVirus: can you try the pages in your machine http://www.latinka.com/ and www.bws.com.pe
[03:11] <CVirus> omar: works with the second website
[03:12] <omar> CVirus: but I need the small part in flash
[03:18] <manne> Hi, somebody here, who can help me with cdbs problems under (k)ubuntu
[03:21] <SuperSub> does anyone know if you can map outlook pst files in evolution mail?
[03:25] <Film905> SuperSub, I dont think you can. See if this helps: http://www.snapfiles.com/get/outport.html
[03:27] <llxcamxll> does anyone lnow how to get nexiuz to work on kubuntu???
[03:29] <LjL> llxcamxll: it works without doing anything special here
[03:29] <llxcamxll> yeah but i'm heaps newb
[03:30] <llxcamxll> its no double click is it?
[03:30] <LjL> llxcamxll: oh, i don't know, i just type "nexuiz" in the shell
[03:31] <kyaneos> hi
[03:31] <Chichiri> greetings
[03:43] <neutron> i got some problems, my keboard stoped working when i startedmy computer today, tried recovery mode, but when i tried to type the root password,every time i pressed a key it gave me a error, and sugested me to "setkey x" or something simmilar, is there any way of fixing this?
[03:56] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. Every time I go to 'configure' a launcher button on the panel for a program.. the icon gets reset.
[03:56] <Dr_willis> Or is it.. lets see..
[03:57] <racookier> hi, kubuntu cant resolve hostnames (i.e. security.kubuntu.com) to update or upgrade packages, but i can surf the web with konqueror ??????? some one have any idea?
[03:58] <Dr_willis> servers may be down/overloaded.
[03:58] <Dr_willis> ping security.kubuntu.com
[03:58] <Dr_willis> ping: unknown host security.kubuntu.com
[03:58] <Dr_willis> ping security.ubuntu.com
[03:58] <Dr_willis> PING security.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data.
[03:58] <Dr_willis> Looks like there is no security.Kubuntu.com
[03:59] <lupine_85> sounds right to me
[04:00] <racookier> hello??
[04:00] <Dr_willis> Moo! :P
[04:01] <racookier> in the proccess control the networking (basic tcp/ip networking) appears as not running
[04:01] <fs-a> can the K bar get a normal directory so its files are clickable and its dirs submenus?
[04:06] <Dr_willis> fs-a,  i seem to recall some sort of quickbrowser add on for it .
[04:07] <Dr_willis> 'quick file browser' applet - addit to the panel
[04:09] <bob_> hello, does anyone know an approriate chanell to ask questions about imagick x86 compile problems?
[04:11] <Dr_willis> You sure its an Imagemagik problem?
[04:11] <Dr_willis> check their web site - they may have an irc channel on this or some other server
[04:11] <Dr_willis> or at least a web forums
[04:12] <thoreauputic> !imagemagick
[04:12] <ubotu> imagemagick: Image manipulation programs. In component main, is optional. Version 6:<IP_ADDRESS>-0.6ubuntu0.2 (dapper), package size 1576 kB, installed size 4068 kB
[04:12] <Hawkwind> They don't have an IRC channel on freenode unfortunately
[04:15] <bobbin>  #konqueror
[04:15] <omar> guys, I can't open some pages with flash, that's weird 'cos I opened them some days ago, I uninstall and reinstall flashplugin-nonfree, but I still can't open 'em, what can I do, should I install easyubuntu or automatix, some people here tell me not to do that
[04:15] <bob_> thanks for the tip
[04:17] <racookier> ok  look this:  ping archive.ubuntu.com  (unknown host archive.ubuntu.com)
[04:18] <thoreauputic> racookier: you have a dns problem
[04:18] <racookier> ok  look this:  ping archive.ubuntu.com  (unknown host archive.ubuntu.com) but if i enter archive.ubuntu.com in konqueror i can surf the server, but apt cant find it
[04:19] <racookier> in the proccess control the networking (basic tcp/ip networking) appears as not running (this is normal??) i have lan connection with other computers anyway
[04:19] <thoreauputic> racookier: do you have a proxy set?
[04:19] <thoreauputic> to restart networking,  sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:20] <omar> guys, I can't open some pages with flash, that's weird 'cos I opened them some days ago, I uninstall and reinstall flashplugin-nonfree, but I still can't open 'em, what can I do, should I install easyubuntu or automatix, some people here tell me not to do that
[04:20] <thoreauputic> omar: don't use easyubuntu or automatix
[04:20] <omar> thoreauputic: I don't wanna really
[04:21] <thoreauputic> omar: do you have the most recent update of flashplugin-nonfree ?
[04:21] <paolutus> quit
[04:21] <racookier> no problem anyway i restart networking, they appear as not running but i have lan connection ok (in fact i'm here trough proxy)
[04:21] <omar> thoreauputic: think so, I did apt-get update flashplugin-nonfree already
[04:21] <racookier> but apt cant resolve host names to update the system
[04:22] <racookier> ping cant resolve host names