[00:00] <djustice> is there any click-n-run place for [k]ubuntu?
[00:02] <James147> djustice: click-n-run what?
[00:04] <djustice> James147: liek apps.. say i dont have root permissions.. and i need gimp.
[00:05] <James147> djustice: like an app store?
[00:05] <djustice> James147: ya.. except i dont have root permissions to use said app store ;)
[00:05] <James147> djustice: there are plans for mavrick to intrgrate an app store into kpackaekit but i donot know if it will allow rootless installs
[00:06] <djustice> click-n-run bundles. like 0install, chakra's .cb, pcbsd's pbi, pclos's .cnr
[00:06] <djustice> James147: hm. kk. thx.
[00:08] <zus> Does anyone use ubuntustudio packages over kubuntu?
[00:09] <jcgs> hi, do any of you guys know where the gnu make manual might be installed on my system
[00:11] <jcgs> found it! needed to install make-doc, pretty obvious, really
[00:15] <pop> hi
[00:17] <Typos_King> allo
[00:54] <valorie> has anyone reported difficulty right-clicking
[00:54] <valorie> since the beta  updates yesterday?
[00:54] <valorie> so far, I've only seen it in parts of Amarok
[00:54] <valorie> but I haven't changed Amarok at all
[00:55] <valorie> just the KDE updates
[00:56] <Typos_King> dunno
[00:56] <Typos_King> since I use 9.1 :)
[00:56] <James147> valorie: not noticing any `difficulties` right clicking on anything... what beta updates? Do you mean the kde RC2 ones?
[00:57] <blain> no problems here
[00:57] <blain> not using rc2
[00:57] <blain> i dont use pre-final stuff in production environments
[00:59] <James147> valorie: what difficulties are you seeing and what version of kde?
[01:01]  * xfact is back.
[01:02]  * xfact|away is away: Gone away for now
[01:14] <anditosan> I installed startup manager in kubuntu and changed some options, now my computer starts but there is no x session
[01:14] <anditosan> I can't run commands or anything
[01:14] <anditosan> it boots but the screen stays black
[01:14] <anditosan> what can I do?
[01:14] <James147> anditosan: alt+crtl+f1-6 should take you to a command line
[01:15] <anditosan> it doesn't
[01:15] <anditosan> i tried it
[01:15] <James147> anditosan: then booting in to failsafe mode should work (you can do that from the grub menu)
[01:16] <anditosan> I tried it as well, and it gets stuck
[01:16] <anditosan> I can't run any commands after that
[01:16] <James147> anditosan: then something is seriously wrong :S
[01:16] <anditosan> yeah
[01:16] <anditosan> and that's what I want to figure out
[01:17] <James147> anditosan: at a push you can boot a live cd and chroot into your installed system :S but from there I do not know what you would do to fix it
[01:17] <anditosan> sorry, what was that last line?
[01:17] <James147> anditosan: at a push you can boot a live cd and chroot into your installed system :S but from there I do not know what you would do to fix it
[01:18] <anditosan> that;s what I am running right now
[01:18] <anditosan> but I don't know what tools to get to fix the problem
[01:20] <James147> anditosan: you can effectly use your system to make changes by chrooting into it - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot... but I do not really how to fix it without more details on what you did to mess it up :)
[01:21] <anditosan> I know
[01:33] <James147> O-o virtuoso-t is taking up 542MiB of ram even though nepomuk is ment to be limited to 50MiB
[01:42] <genfool> James147, thanks for the help earlier, my last issue was the box not shutting down all the way, by it's self.  It cleared up and went away....luv it when issues correct themselves  :)
[01:42] <James147> genfool: as do i :)
[01:59] <valorie> James147: sorry for asking my question and not sticking around for your feedback
[01:59] <valorie> it was dinner time
[01:59] <valorie> I was speaking of Version 4.4.92 (KDE 4.4.92 (KDE 4.5 RC2))
[01:59] <valorie> not only can I not right-click in parts of Amarok
[02:00] <valorie> I also can't use the menus!
[02:00] <James147> valorie: same here, but not seeing the difficulties you mentioned :S
[02:00] <valorie> going to restart Amarok and see if it really is an Amarok only problem
[02:01] <valorie> while I'm at it, has anyone else reported oddness with sound levels?
[02:01] <valorie> I have to start up alsamixer every day
[02:02] <valorie> because my top volume keeps getting reset to 50%
[02:02] <valorie> on the Master channel
[02:02] <valorie> most annoying
[02:02] <James147> valorie: why not use kmix to change the sound levels?
[02:02] <valorie> it doesn't do anything
[02:03] <valorie> says it is at 100
[02:03] <valorie> this is a laptop, and 50% is barely audible
[02:04] <James147> valorie: kmix is set to restore volumes at login... have you set all of the volumes controls in kmix to max?
[02:05] <valorie> I just did
[02:05] <valorie> I guess I'll try a restart and see if that works
[02:06] <valorie> thanks for your help
[02:06] <jcgs> hi, my krunner keeps freezing up, is that normal?
[02:07] <valorie> the restart of Amarok seems to have fixed the menu issue
[02:09] <James147> jcgs: what kde version?
[02:10] <jcgs> James147: Lucid
[02:11] <James147> jcgs: so.. kde 4.4.x? My guess would be its nepomuks fault :) had problems with it before upgrading to kde 4.5 (krunner randomly freezing) it helped to disabled nepomuk from the krunner plugins (as well as anyother plugin that i dident need)
[02:12] <James147> jcgs: you can disable it by unchecking the appropate box from krunner > the config icon (looks like a spanner)
[02:12] <jcgs> James147: Interesting. nepomuk definitely seems to have been problematic (zombie processes and the like)
[02:13] <James147> jcgs: havent really had an issue with it since I upgraded to kde 4.5 :D look to be finially reached a usable state (and 4.5 is still RC)
[02:19] <LinuxPerplexed> Question:  Is the "alternate" cd usually bootable?
[02:19] <Joshua_^_Dunamis> yes it is
[02:20] <LinuxPerplexed> having some issues with a bluray drive an old ide drive and a usb drive - somtimes not booting one or the other cannot read the cd's
[02:20] <LinuxPerplexed> total pain - example - the usb reads a mint live cd and boots - but wont read the alternate Kubuntu - both written on CDRW's
[02:20] <LinuxPerplexed> are cdrw's an issue?
[02:21] <Joshua_^_Dunamis> I don't know it
[02:21] <Joshua_^_Dunamis> Is th live cd bootable in your pc?
[02:21] <Joshua_^_Dunamis> *the
[02:22] <James147> LinuxPerplexed: I tend to use usb flash drives now... get a cheap 1gig stick and install live distros to that... I found it much less hassel then dead cds :S
[02:22] <LinuxPerplexed> ok i think the website said I need a 2g stick for Kubuntu?
[02:23] <James147> LinuxPerplexed: otherwise make sure you burn the immage to a cd at a slow speed... usually give a better change at working
[02:23] <LinuxPerplexed> yea I have been burning at 1-3x max
[02:23] <claydoh|werk> I find cdrw's to be problematic in general for burning install disks
[02:23] <James147> LinuxPerplexed: i only use 1gig sticks :p... the cd image is onlt 700mb so that all you really need :)
[02:23] <LinuxPerplexed> ok could be the issue, ok lets go this direction- what iso do I need and what software do I need to make a 1g usb stick bootable?
[02:24] <LinuxPerplexed> I am downloading via torrent - 10.04 desktop iso
[02:24] <LinuxPerplexed> i386
[02:24] <James147> LinuxPerplexed: and .iso... + usb-creator[-kde] in [k]ubuntu or unetbootin for windows/other distros (or ubuntu if you rpefure it)
[02:24] <claydoh|werk> for Ubuntu cd's, the builtin usb-creator for other distros, unetbootin
[02:25] <James147> LinuxPerplexed: note taht i think unetbootin will auto download the image, but i am not sure havent useed it in over a year
[02:25] <LinuxPerplexed> ok  - format stick as fat32?
[02:25] <James147> LinuxPerplexed: both programs will format the disk for you
[02:25] <LinuxPerplexed> making this from winblowz
[02:25] <James147> (at least i think unetbootin will)
[02:26] <LinuxPerplexed> let me get usb creator
[02:26] <claydoh|werk> LinuxPerplexed: i think there may be a unetbootin for windows, not  sure
[02:26] <mcurran> I just tried UNetbootin to put a WIN7 Install DVD iso on a usb, and it worked, but it says something about missing drivers when I get to the disk selection (install medium) section...
[02:26] <James147> LinuxPerplexed: usb-creator is ubuntu onlyu
[02:26] <LinuxPerplexed> let me see if unetbootin is simple
[02:26] <claydoh|werk> LinuxPerplexed: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[02:26] <robertzaccour> how do i reset kde panel? somehow the stuff on the right shifted left
[02:27] <James147> robertzaccour: kde 4.4.x not easily (you need to reset the whole plasma-desktop) kde 4.5.x you can right clickk > add panel > default panel
[02:27] <LinuxPerplexed> so with unetbootin and the laternate iso I am good to go at 1gig stick?
[02:28] <robertzaccour> James147, how do i do that?
[02:28] <James147> LinuxPerplexed: you should be, i havent had problems with a 1gig
[02:28] <LinuxPerplexed> ok thanks - I am excited to try KDE it seems to look smoother and more elegant than Gnome to me
[02:28] <valorie> amen, LinuxPerplexed
[02:29] <James147> robertzaccour: reset plasma-desktop (thats all your widgets on your desktop and you wallpapaer)? rename or delete ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktoprc
[02:29] <robertzaccour> James147, how do i do that?
[02:30] <James147> robertzaccour: rename or delete ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktoprc ?? through dolphin :S or "rm ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktoprc" in commandline
[02:30] <James147> note the above command will permintally remove the file
[02:31] <James147> robertzaccour: you may or may not need to also remove plasma-desktop-appletsrc or plasmarc from the same location
[02:31] <James147> or anything with plasma in the name at that location :)
[02:32] <claydoh|werk> LinuxPerplexed: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#From%20Windows
[02:33] <robertzaccour> James147, sudo apt-get remove ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktoprc ?
[02:34] <James147> robertzaccour: that would appempt to uninstall ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktoprc... which isent a program :S so wil fail
[02:34] <robertzaccour> James147, thats what you just told me to do
[02:35] <LinuxPerplexed> James147: Thanks getting my image now and will be loading soon.
[02:35] <James147> robertzaccour: "rm ~/.kde/share/config/plasm*"  will delete any files starting with plasm (note the LACK of sudo since you are removing a file owned by your self)
[02:35] <James147> robertzaccour: and I told you to remove the file, not try to uninstall it :)
[02:35] <robertzaccour> so i need to "remove ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktoprc?
[02:36] <James147> robertzaccour: yes... but the remove command is called rm... the exact thing you try is "rm ~/.kde/share/config/plasm*"
[02:37] <James147> robertzaccour: or do it through dolphin
[02:37] <robertzaccour> James147, it didn't appear to do anything
[02:37] <James147> robertzaccour: rm only outputs on error
[02:37] <James147> robertzaccour: (like most unix commands)
[02:37] <robertzaccour> James147, so how do i remove it?
[02:37] <robertzaccour> i just need to reset it so the stuff is back to the right side
[02:38] <James147> robertzaccour: to see if its still there "ls ~/.kde/share/config" and see if its listed... (you already have removed it if you ran the previous command)
[02:39] <James147> robertzaccour: note you will need to restart plasma-desktop to see the effects (killall plasma-desktop && sleep 5 && plasma-desktop) << that will kill plasma-desktop wait 5 seconds and start it again
[02:39] <James147> robertzaccour: your desktop should disapear for 5 seconds then come back again (if it dosent alt+f2 and try plasma-desktop to start it again)
[02:39] <LinuxPerplexed> Fonts: I was reading some older articles about Linux fonts lood bad compared to apple.  They were talking about eneabling sub pixel smoothing or rendering or something...does anyone know if this has been addressed since like 2006 versions?
[02:40] <robertzaccour> James147, it said no precess found
[02:40] <James147> LinuxPerplexed: :S I quite like the kde fonts :D and they do now use truetyped fonts
[02:40] <LinuxPerplexed> k - I think it would have been addressed by now, cool
[02:41] <James147> robertzaccour: (or you can logout and logback in to do the same thing)
[02:41] <robertzaccour> James147, so if i log out then back in it will be restored?
[02:42] <James147> robertzaccour: hopefully :)
[02:44]  * James147 finds himself answering that question enough that he really really should know the effect of deleting the different plasma* files... and goes off to test
[02:48] <valorie> I have a picky little question about the Weather Forecast applet
[02:49] <valorie> when I display the whole applet, there is always an "N/A" displayed over the weather icon
[02:50] <valorie> I've set everything in settings, but that N/A won't disappear
[02:53] <eross> what's best way to install kde4 into 10.04? I see so many kde4's in synaptic, it's confusing
[02:53] <James147> eross: from ubuntu? install "kubuntu-desktop"
[02:53] <eross> thanks
[02:57] <LinuxPerplexed> James - isnt that thought to be less stable sdoing the KDE install that way vs getting Kuubntu itself?
[02:59] <eross> ack.. should i run gdm or kdm by default
[02:59] <James147> LinuxPerplexed: dont see why... and havent heard it being less stable
[02:59] <eross> must be kdm for kde?
[02:59] <James147> eross: which ever you prefure
[02:59] <James147> eross: it dosent really matteryou can launch gnome session from kdm and i think the same the other way around
[03:00] <James147> although kdm might play better then kde, but I dont know how
[03:00] <genfool> LinuxPerplexed, is fine, I have kde, gnome, fluxbox, xfce, xbmc, lxde   all controlled by kdm...gdm works fine also.
[03:00] <eross> oh just the login portion..
[03:06] <eross> going to restart and see how laggy quake live is now
[03:27]  * xfact is back.
[03:27] <James147> !away | xfact
[03:30] <xfact> I apologize, for the message... this was unintentional interruption
[03:31] <xfact> By the way I need that away message from some other short IRC channel, where I am having admin alike position, and I am using Konversation, is there any way to disable this away message for only this channel? :)
[03:32] <valorie> not that I've seen
[03:32] <valorie> I <3 Konvi
[03:33] <valorie> btw, there is a #konversation chan
[03:34] <xfact> I love Konversation too
[03:34] <xfact> And thanks for channel info
[03:34] <valorie> :-)
[03:42] <vbgunz_> the application launcher is really crazy imho, lancelot I think is even crazier in some sense. are there any other menu applications for plasma or KDE4?
[03:43] <James147> vbgunz_: you can change the default one to the old style menu (as in kde 3.5.x) otherwise I think there might be a few others cant remember their names off hand
[03:43] <xfact> Bye guys see you soon :)
[03:44] <James147> vbgunz_: although, if anywhere has one it will be at http://kde-look.org/
[03:44] <vbgunz_> James147: I lose my favorites when I do that otherwise I would probably prefer it
[03:44] <vbgunz_> I mean there there
[03:45] <James147> vbgunz_: :( i tend to just use alt+f2 now :D rarly use the menu at all
[03:45] <cato37> i am still having problems with my laptop cd/dvd rw burner. it will not recognize cd's except for the cd kubuntu install disk
[03:45] <James147> cato37: blank cds?
[03:46] <James147> vbgunz_: you cvould try the old style menu + http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Favorites+Launcher?content=117639
[03:47] <vbgunz_> im gonna see if I can have 2 classics
[03:47] <cato37> any cd except for a kubuntu install disk. i origially used a kubuntu 10.04 iso burned onto a dvd, and since then cd's dont come up in the gui. they spin around and are read, or at least make noises like they are being read, but they dont communicate the info to the os.
[03:47] <vbgunz_> for some reason though I almost doubt it
[03:47] <vbgunz_> holy crap I think I can do it
[03:47] <James147> vbgunz_: you can have as many launchers as you want :D
[03:48] <vbgunz_> James147: im trying this out now, seems like my idea just might work I hope
[03:48] <James147> vbgunz_: you can even have them on the desktop :D
[03:50] <James147> cato37: does the kubuntu cd come up in the gui?
[03:51] <cato37>  James147 yes, but blanks don't
[03:51] <James147> cato37: .... blanks wont appear... just open k3b it should be able to burn to them
[03:57] <cato37> James147: my main goal is to be able to read my data and audio cd's, and it doesnt
[03:58] <James147> cato37: dont see why it would be able to read the kubuntu cd and not your other data/audio cds (it wont show blank cds though)
[03:59] <cato37> i installed kubuntu using an cd iso burned onto a dvd. i think that is what did it.
[04:00] <James147> cato37: do see why.... kubuntu shouldent care what method it was install by
[04:00] <cato37> is there a way to get kubuntu to recognize it r/w both cd's and dvd's?
[04:02] <James147> cato37: you can try mounting it maunally: insert the disk then in a terminal type "mount -t iso9660 -o ro /dev/cdrom /cdrom"  (where /cdrom is where you want to mount it)
[04:03] <James147> cato37: then you should be able to navigate to /cdrom (or where you mounted it) and browse the contents of the disk (given it mounted correctly and mount dident throw an error)
[04:05] <James147> cato37: sorry, add "sudo " to the start of that command as it need to be run as root (sudo mount -t iso9660 -o ro /dev/cdrom /cdrom)
[04:05] <cato37> James147: k
[04:06] <vbgunz_> is there any way to assign just the meta key to open my system menu?
[04:06] <James147> vbgunz_: not easaly...
[04:07] <vbgunz_> heh
[04:07] <vbgunz_> you would have thought this would have been tackled by now
[04:08] <cato37> 8
[04:08] <James147> vbgunz_: afraid its the way lower level stuff handels the meta key... most people dont really care about being able to use it to open the men
[04:08] <vbgunz_> for about 8 years I've used the meta key to open a menu, heh
[04:08] <James147> vbgunz_: think the application launcher opens with alt+f1 by default?
[04:09] <vbgunz_> nah, nothing mapped to it
[04:09] <vbgunz_> its all good, more curious than anything else
[04:10] <James147> vbgunz_: you can right click it > configure... and add a shortcut that way (just not meta only)
[04:11] <vbgunz_> got it
[04:11] <James147> vbgunz_: i got too use to alt+f2... krunner is the best launcher i have seen :D
[04:13] <cato37> James147: i ran it twice first time the command went thru, second time i got the response that it was already mounted or busy
[04:14] <James147> cato37: you have to unmount it before you can mount it again (sudo umount /dev/cdrom)
[04:15] <James147> cato37: if you run "mount"  it will list all mounted devices so you can check to see if the cdrom is mounted
[04:16] <cato37> no cdrom
[04:16] <cato37> James147: ok, after running mount. but now my dvd's dont show
[04:17] <cato37> James147:  *dvd's wont play
[04:17] <vbgunz_> James147: heh, I mapped krunner to scroll lock alone along time ago
[04:17] <James147> cato37: play in what?
[04:18] <cato37> the data dvd's dont show up.
[04:18] <vbgunz_> James147: I also mapped pause/break to xkill
[04:18] <James147> vbgunz_: lol
[04:18] <James147> cato37: show up in what?
[04:18] <cato37> James147:  the data dvd's dont show up in dolphin
[04:18] <vbgunz_> heh, it's pretty cool having one key access to some stuff
[04:19] <James147> vbgunz_: you know alt+crtl+esc is also maped to xkill?
[04:19] <maco> James147: not when i try it...
[04:19] <vbgunz_> James147: it's too much
[04:20] <vbgunz_> I end up forgetting too as I rarely kill stuff
[04:20] <James147> vbgunz_: :) you shouldnt need to use it `that` much
[04:20] <James147> maco: really?
[04:21] <maco> yeah my mouse didnt change to the xkill skull & crossbones
[04:22] <James147> maco: is "kill window" under kwin in the global keyboard shortcuts maped to anything?
[04:24] <maco> oh i dont use kwin :)
[04:24] <maco> i thought xkill killed whole processes though, not just individual windows
[04:24] <maco> so id expect it to be a kde-wide shortcut, not a window manager one
[04:26] <cato37> James147: the café closed 20 minutes ago, i am heading accross the street to continue
[04:26] <James147> maco: i think its jsut kwin launching xkill
[04:26] <maco> ah ok
[04:26] <James147> maco: even if its a global shorcut soemthing needs to launch it :)
[04:26] <maco> plasma? *shrug*
[04:27] <James147> maco: like how krunner seems to be incharge of ctrl+esc for the progess manager... dont know who chose that :S
[04:27] <cato37> theo@Sophia:~$ sudo mount -t iso9660 -o ro /dev/cdrom /cdrom
[04:27] <cato37> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sr0,
[04:27] <cato37>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[04:27] <cato37>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[04:27] <cato37>        dmesg | tail  or so
[04:27] <FloodBotK1> cato37: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:27] <cato37> sorry
[04:27] <cato37> brb.
[04:28] <James147> cato37: does "mount" list /dev/cdrom  (or /dev/sr0?) also is the disk a blank disk?
[04:29] <cato37> no
[04:29] <cato37> James147: no
[04:31] <cato37> James147: no to the mount command, yes, the disk is a blank cd
[04:32] <maco> James147: i didnt know about ctrl+esc. i just use top :P
[04:32] <James147> cato37: you cannot mount a blank cd... nor will the device notifier display a blank cd... the only thing you can do with a blank cd is to burn to it and k3b should beable to see it
[04:34] <cato37> James147: k. kb3 will recognize a blank cd. :)
[04:34] <James147> maco: i find hitting ctrl+ecs quicker then launching a terminal, opening yakuake then opening top :) and its easier to read
[04:35] <maco> ah i dont have to open a terminal, just go to workspace 1
[04:35] <maco> i *always* have a terminal...or 3... open
[04:35] <James147> maco: i always have yakuake open (thats the point of it :D ) but its still less effort to hit crtl+esc :D
[04:36] <maco> i have friends that say X exists to be able to display multiple terminals at once
[04:36] <maco> i often agree
[04:36] <James147> maco: and run screen in each of them :)
[04:37] <maco> no actually
[04:37] <maco> i use terminator, which is written for gnome, to get split screens
[04:37] <maco> its splitting is much nicer than konsole's
[04:37] <maco> and it has no chrome... there are no buttons or borders around it
[04:37] <James147> maco: any reasoon why?
[04:38] <maco> terminator, you split whats in a tab
[04:38] <maco> and you can drag the subterminals around to rearrange
[04:38] <maco> in konsole, you have splits and tabs too, but every pane has ALL the tabs
[04:38] <maco> and so you can end up with two panes showing the same tab, which is horribly confusing (and the default when you split!)
[04:38] <maco> terminator, when i split, launches a fresh terminal in the new pane
[04:39] <James147> maco: heh, thats weird behavour :D
[04:39] <James147> :s
[04:39] <maco> and like i said... no toolbar, no menubar... if i used a window manager that had titlebars, itd just be a titlebar and a shell
[04:40] <James147> maco: mine has no toolbars or menus (or it would have no menus if it launched properly :S
[04:40] <maco> heh
[04:40] <James147> maco: then i tend to hit alt+ctrl+m to hide the menus
[04:41] <James147> maco: hell, use to have it running without a boarder as well, and just launched multiple konsoles when i wanted a split view :S
[04:41] <maco> and since i use a tiling window manager that *would* work
[04:41] <maco> but i like the drag n drop terminals i get in terminator
[04:42] <maco> James147: http://ostatic.org/files/images/terminator-mad.png
[04:42] <James147> maco: :) you know kde 4.5 now has tiling support?
[04:42] <maco> yes
[04:42] <maco> but its a bit wonky
[04:42] <maco> and it only does a spiral algorithm
[04:42] <maco> i like xmonad's default algorithm for most things
[04:42] <James147> maco: yeah:( but like every other feature i will be useable by about 1 or 2 version later ;)
[04:42] <cato37> James147: sorry, i thought kb3 was recognizing a blank cd because it had a menu selection for it. but when i try to burn a cd it reads: please put in a suitable medium.
[04:43] <maco> by a bit wonky, i mean i saw someone try to demo it at an event, and it made space for 5 windows to tile... while 2 of the 5 were tabbed together...so it only needed space for 4...so there was just a gap of wallpaper where window shouldve been
[04:43] <James147> cato37: are you trying to burn a cd to a dvd?
[04:44] <cato37> James147: i am trying to burn data files to a blank cd
[04:44] <James147> maco: also dosent do well on dual screen :(
[04:45] <James147> cato37: make sure you open the right option... burn to dvd wont show cd and burn to cd wont show dvds... but other then taht i dont know why it would list them in the menu and not let you burn to them
[04:46] <James147> cato37: tryed it for 5 mins, you cant move the tiled windows to the other screen and floating windows normalise when you drag the other windows about... but hell its the first version of it :)
[04:49] <cato37> James147: thanks for trying. i am going to go home and try again tomorrow,
[04:49] <James147> maco: am 1/2 temped to get konsoles source to see if the split view can be improved :S
[04:50] <maco> go for it. i dont know c++
[04:51] <cato37> have a good night all.
[04:55] <corebreaker> Hello all I seem to have got my self a problem, when I change the plasma activaty settings to Folder View, I can't scroll through my desktops, is there something I need to turn on or off?
[05:00] <corebreaker> Does anyone know what im talking about?
[05:01] <James147> corebreaker: works here, there is a mouse action in right click desktop > folder view settings > mouse actions: vertical scroll -> switch desktop... if it isent there click "input here" and scroll the mouse....
[05:05] <vbgunz_> how do you temporarily disable dri in xorg?
[05:05] <vbgunz_> im going through my logs and see I am loading dri and dri2
[05:05] <vbgunz_> could I disable them? I just want to check something out
[05:06] <James147> vbgunz_: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf would be my guess :) but I dont know the spifics of what you need to add/change in there
[05:07] <vbgunz_> James147: I used to have the line in there but its not there anymore and in my logs it shows dri and dri2 are loading
[05:07] <vbgunz_> I am googling it, I just want to test something
[05:13] <vbgunz_> well, gonna try it out, brb
[05:20] <LnxPrplxd> Wow, Kubuntu looks polished compared to Ubuntu!  First boot here and liking it.
[06:03] <LnxPrplxd> I loaded the propreietary nvidia driver and now my nice fonts are tiny - what went on here?
[06:04] <muesli> http://blog.chris.de/archives/299-The-X.org,-NVidia-KWin-Situation.html <- if anyone is experiencing weird issues with kubuntu & nvidia, please join the discussion and help us figuring out what's going on
[06:21] <trax_> Eveing anyone here know the Broadcom 4318 chipset that's willing to give me a hand with setup?
[06:23] <trax_> it worked under Ubuntu 10.04 without any tweaks and also under fedora 13 but now that i switched to Kubuntu its not functioning
[06:30] <trax_> Drat no one?
[06:56] <gyenes> Hungary ?
[07:00] <valorie> trax, have you googled around a bit?
[07:00]  * valorie can't help
[07:01] <valorie> but I notice that a few hours ago, it was active here
[07:01] <valorie> and now it's asleep
[07:01] <valorie> so presumably the experts are snoring
[07:11] <poyntz> kontact crashes when i start it up. any ideas? i'm using kde 4.4
[07:24] <troopperi> poyntz: its a bug, read this there is workaroun that might help http://osdir.com/ml/kdepim-bugs/2010-06/msg00685.html
[07:45] <noaXess> good morning
[07:46] <noaXess> how can i mount a external usb hd as user?.. in kde it works automaticlly over device notifier... but if i have no kde or no other X.. how can i do that in console?
[07:46] <noaXess> or can than only root do that.. sudo mount...?
[08:25] <mykleman> list
[08:27] <valorie> mykleman: if you know vaguely what sort of channel you want, /list whatever will get you better results
[08:27] <valorie> there are so many, you'll want to narrow it a bit
[08:28] <mykleman> thank u valorie
[08:28] <mykleman> new to this
[08:28] <valorie> you are very welcome
[08:28] <valorie> it took me awhile to learn that
[08:28] <mykleman> just looking for gtkpod support to use my iphone on kubuntu
[08:30] <valorie> #ipodlinux might be useful
[08:31] <mykleman> ta. i am there now.
[08:31] <valorie> there is a #gtkpod also
[08:31] <mykleman> that was me lol
[08:31] <valorie> keep in mind that devels sleep sometimes
[08:31] <valorie> lol
[08:59] <jussi> valorie: in future you may want to point people to: /msg alis help
[09:01] <valorie> jussi, is alis a bot, or what?
[09:01] <valorie> very cool, I didn't know about that
[09:01] <jussi> valorie: yeah, kinda. its a network service bot, like nickserv/chanserv etc
[09:01] <valorie> ok
[09:37] <nebulas> How do I startsraft 2 beta ...?
[09:55] <nebulas> How do I startsraft 2 beta ...?
[09:56] <gunsofbrixton> hi, in kmail, where do I set that messages should not be grouped by date?
[09:57] <valorie> gunsofbrixton: support is in #kubuntu
[09:57] <valorie> sheesh!!!!!!
[09:57] <valorie> sorry
[09:57] <well_laid_lawn> heh :]
[09:57] <valorie> we ARE in Kubuntu
[09:57] <valorie> methinks I'm getting tired....
[09:58] <gunsofbrixton> thanks :)
[10:02] <gunsofbrixton> does kontact work well with exchange calendars? do invitation sending/receiving work?
[10:48] <nicklas_> Hello. When a new version of kubuntu is released, will you get a message? I mean in kubuntu you cant set up what versions to search for like in regular ubuntu. And 10.04 is a LTS, so it will only search for LTS?
[11:12] <inixindo> halo
[11:12] <erick_shot> halo.....
[11:30] <Taos> Latest ubuntu update has a broken command-not-found support
[11:31] <steven__> hi everyone, please someone can email me a 32bit via-rhine.ko ?
[11:41] <steven__> there is no /lib/modules/2.6.26-2-486/kernel/drivers/net folder on the debian netinstall usb image !
[11:45] <Taos> How can i fix the command not found bug in 10.4
[11:45] <Taos> 10.04*
[11:50] <ionut> in joomla hi, whenever i try to install a template i get this error Warning: move_uploaded_file(D:\Inetpub\webs\mauromarcosimonazziit\tmp\yoo_beyond_1.5.tar.gz) [function.move-uploaded-file]: failed to open stream: Permission denied in D:\Inetpub\webs\mauromarcosimonazziit\libraries\joomla\filesystem\file.php  on line 345
[12:14] <gnaderi> how config terminal that use tor filter cracker like firefox?
[12:15] <gnaderi> how can install virtual box in forbidden country like Iran?
[12:15] <gnaderi> how can install virtual box in forbidden country like Iran?
[12:15] <gnaderi> how can install virtual box in forbidden country like Iran?
[12:15] <FloodBotK1> gnaderi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:28] <gnaderi> what is the fastest  Virtual machine in linux?
[12:32] <blain> esx or xen
[12:36] <rusomoskow> hi
[12:36] <rusomoskow> hi!
[12:37] <jillsmitt> hi
[12:37] <rusomoskow> how to block fu***ing flash??????????   in firefox!!!!
[12:37] <rusomoskow> I do not see fu***ing menu to do it!!!
[12:37] <rusomoskow> whY?
[12:37] <jillsmitt> disable adobe flashplugin
[12:37] <jillsmitt> in the Addons menu
[12:38] <rusomoskow> why firefox deny to easy  blocking of flash??????
[12:38] <jillsmitt> it is easy blocking
[12:38] <gunsofbrixton> uhm, audio to my headphones works fine in config test and amarok, but not with flash videos... any ideas?
[12:39] <rusomoskow> NO!   I want to block flash onlo on one huge site
[12:39] <rusomoskow> only
[12:39] <jillsmitt> rusomoskow: there are many addons to you, just check it out from Addons search
[12:39] <rusomoskow> heavy ырше сшеу
[12:40] <rusomoskow> щл
[12:40] <rusomoskow> ok
[13:20] <solange> bonjour tout le monde j'ai un petit probleme avec un aspire 5315 pour connecter le wifi quelqu'un aurais des sugestion j'ai retourner le probleme dantout les sens
[13:21] <solange> l'os est kubuntu lynx
[13:40] <eagles05138755> hey guys what do yall recommend for an sftp server?
[13:40] <thomasfuston> Aloha, i got a short question (dunno if it reall support), i got a problem it deKorator, it dont install the theme i gave him (it is a deKorator theme), is there a way to do it by my self ?
[13:43] <eagles05138755> !vsftpd | eagles05138755
[13:44] <blain> hey charlene_
[13:44] <blain> eagles0513875 vsftpd
[13:45] <eagles05138755> blain: thanks 2nd person to confirm
[13:45] <eagles05138755> is it in the repos blain
[13:45] <eagles05138755> nm answered my own question\
[13:45] <blain> i know
[13:46] <blain> it's in the reps
[13:46] <blain> apt-cache search vsftpd
[13:46] <eagles05138755> or apt-cache policy vsftpd :)
[13:47] <blain> there are tons of ways in linux to achieve the samething
[13:50] <eagles05138755> blain: ya i never really had to setup ftp before so this is something new for me
[13:50] <blain> proftpd is easier
[13:50] <eagles05138755> tbh i would prefer to have a secure connection to the server
[13:51] <blain> http://www.directadmin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30607
[13:53]  * eagles05138755 is confused about ftp
[14:04] <xfact> Hello guys
[14:04] <blain> hey indian
[14:04] <xfact> I have another question: How to change the default Kubuntu pointer? :)
[14:05] <James147> xfact: system settings > mouse&keyboard > mouse > curser theme... or somewhere similar
[14:05] <James147> although thats only for your user
[14:05]  * xfact looks up
[14:05] <xfact> ll
[14:05] <xfact> *kk
[14:08] <xfact> Well, thank you very much for the help
[14:08] <xfact> Coming soon with more questions :)
[14:08] <xfact> Byee :)
[14:08] <blain> hope not
[14:11] <Torch> eagles0513875: sftp is ftp over ssh
[14:11] <Torch> eagles0513875: you need an sshd for that
[14:15] <eagles0513875_> Torch: ya i realized after the fact hehe
[14:19] <munzir> Hi, can I spellcheck two languages in kate or similar editors?
[14:21] <assantianal> Can somebody help me to find a job?
[14:21] <James147> munzir: in kate > tool > change dictionary  i think might do it
[14:22] <munzir> James147: sure but one language at a time. My documents are multilingual so they contain mixed languages. Those programs should detect the lang and enable the dic automatically, no?
[14:23] <James147> munzir: afraid that is as much as I know about it :p
[14:27] <assantianal> пгны
[14:27] <assantianal> ыыыыыыыыы
[14:27] <FloodBotK1> assantianal: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:27] <assantianal> do not flood  ыыыыыыыы
[14:27] <assantianal> трам пам пам
[14:27] <munzir> James147: np
[14:27] <assantianal> ыыыыыы
[14:27] <assantianal> munzir   ыыы
[14:28] <assantianal> ютф8 ?
[14:28] <assantianal> быдло  ыыыыыыыыы
[14:32] <Misterio> *ubuntu channels shoud have auto-language-detection to PM users with local channel...
[14:48] <RaGNORAK> hi how do i set up a network with my desktop running kubuntu and linux and my laptop running windows
[14:48] <RaGNORAK> i know there is a software i should use i just forgot the name..... :|
[14:50] <James147> RaGNORAK: using a router is easiest :P otherwise knetwork manager `should` beable to connect them (if wireless then through an ad-hoc connection)
[14:52] <sergey> d
[14:53] <RaGNORAK> i am using a router
[14:53] <RaGNORAK> wait let me just set the stuff up and if i cant figure it out on my own ill ask a more specific question :|
[14:55] <James147> RaGNORAK: if both are connected with the router then they should already have a 'network' between them :) try browsing remote:/ in dolphin or konq
[14:56] <James147> RaGNORAK: for browsing files on a windows mechiene you will need to use samba shares (smb:/)
[14:57] <James147> RaGNORAK: for broswing folder on your linux mecheine you will need to install samba and configure some shares
[14:57] <RaGNORAK> thank you
[14:58] <James147> !samba | RaGNORAK
[15:44] <gunsofbrixton> so I told nepomuk to index my files, how do I actually search for stuff? do I need to install strigi?
[15:45] <blain> gunsofbrixton locate
[15:45] <blain> but first run updatedb
[15:46] <gunsofbrixton> blain: does that use the strigi file index?
[15:46] <blain> i dont think so
[15:47] <gunsofbrixton> uhm, so should I use strigi to index my files at all?
[15:48] <lelamal> Hi all, for a couple of days I've been having problems with two plasmoids: ublog and picture frame (set to pic of the day). At start up, they're both not displaying anything.
[15:48] <James147> gunsofbrixton: locate does not use nepomuk at all :S to seach nepomuk use dolphin's search bar (NOT crtl+f) or krunner plugin
[15:48] <lelamal> The only workaraound is to move from Timeline to Replies and back in ublog (this shows messages but not my pic), and change the provider of the pic of the day to refresh the picture frame. Has anybody experienced anything like this, or know how to fix it?
[15:50] <gunsofbrixton> James147: ok cool... does the k menu search use strigi as well?
[15:50] <James147> gunsofbrixton: not sure, dont use it :) but I dont thnk so
[15:52] <James147> gunsofbrixton: easy enough to test, just to the same search in dolphin and kmenu and see if they return the same results :)
[15:56] <Xand3r> hey
[15:56] <Xand3r> we have amarok for music, digikam for pictures, is there a application like them for videos?
[15:58] <Mamarok> Xand3r: dragonplayer or kaffeine
[15:58] <Xand3r> Mamarok: they dont manage my videos
[15:59] <Mamarok> Xand3r: then you probably lack some codecs
[15:59] <James147> Xand3r: dont know of any application that "manages" videos, most people just play them :p
[15:59] <Mamarok> oh, you mean a video editing software? kdenlive would be the one
[16:00] <blain> kaffeine
[16:00] <Xand3r> James147: yea but i have some series an want them sorted, auto renamed and all that stuff
[16:00] <Mamarok> Xand3r: I don't think you can do that with a video player
[16:00] <Mamarok> that would be rather something to do in Dolphin
[16:01] <James147> Xand3r: I tend to do that manually... as far as I know there is no software to auto manage videos
[16:01] <Xand3r> hmm ok
[16:01] <James147> Xand3r: not sure if some video formats can srote meta data alike music files can
[16:03] <Xand3r> James147: yea but it could use a database
[16:03] <James147> Xand3r: it could... but the amount of people that have large collections of digitised videos that require a database to sort isent that great :(
[16:04] <Mamarok> Xand3r: theoretically you should be able to do it with digikam, too
[16:04] <James147> at once point I was considering writing one... but its too much effort for little reward
[16:06] <Xand3r> too bad
[16:08] <slinker1> how bout linuxmce is it still around?
[16:08] <jillsmitt> maco: is there any news about amarok?
[16:08] <jillsmitt> maco: hello
[16:09] <Mamarok> jillsmitt: what news?
[16:10] <jillsmitt> Mamarok: about depends in kubuntu, amarok needs gtk - it is wrong
[16:11] <Mamarok> jillsmitt: of course it doesn't need gtk, where does that say so?
[16:11] <jillsmitt> Mamarok: one of plugins in the amarok metapackage needs gtk in kubuntu
[16:12] <maco> jillsmitt: its not wrong
[16:12] <James147> Mamarok: its in its dependencys... libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.14.0), libgpod4 (>= 0.7.0), libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.8.0)  :S
[16:12] <maco> jillsmitt: i told you yesterday, its for ipod support
[16:12] <Mamarok> libglib yes, libgtk2 not
[16:12] <maco> Mamarok: i told him i'd ask lydia
[16:13] <maco> and lydia said gtk is for ipod support
[16:13] <Mamarok> maco: well, you could ask me, I was going to explain that
[16:13] <jillsmitt> maco: sorry, but it must be choise
[16:13] <Mamarok> jillsmitt: what is wrong with the libgopd dependency?
[16:13] <maco> Mamarok: its the gtk dep jillsmitt doesnt want, they want a pure qt system
[16:13] <jillsmitt> Mamarok: i need... yes
[16:14] <Mamarok> jillsmitt: *sigh* don't you exagerate a bit there?
[16:14]  * maco doesnt see whats the difference between asking Mamarok and asking Lydia...theyre both amarok people
[16:14] <Mamarok> maco: as you like, I am just more often in here than Nightrose :)
[16:15] <jillsmitt> Mamarok: it hardly to say
[16:15] <jillsmitt> what does exagerate mean?
[16:16] <Mamarok> jillsmitt: well, Amarok needs libgpod for the media devices, else that doesn't work, so why is gtk bad?
[16:17] <jillsmitt> Mamarok: gtk is not bad, but dont have pod-devices and why we (users who do not use it) must install it with favorit player?
[16:17] <jillsmitt> there is no logic
[16:17] <Mamarok> jillsmitt: because the developers choose so, and there are a lot of users who need that, it is very logical, on the contrary
[16:18] <Mamarok> why should we write a new library in Qt if there is a well working one that uses a gtk library? That makes not much sense, but you are welcome to write one
[16:19] <Mamarok> jillsmitt: but Media Devices are a full element of Amarok, removing that dependency would strip Amarok of one of it's basic functionalities
[16:19] <jillsmitt> Mamarok: i have archlinux at home on the desktop, and amarok great without all this gtk plugins there
[16:19] <jillsmitt> nevermind
[16:20] <Mamarok> jillsmitt: of course you are free to use another player if you don't like that, your choice
[16:20] <jillsmitt> i am
[16:20] <Mamarok> even on archlinux you need libgpod
[16:20] <jillsmitt> but there is must be a choise
[16:20] <jillsmitt> no
[16:20] <Mamarok> well, there is a choice of something like 0 other media players
[16:20] <Mamarok> 10*
[16:21] <jillsmitt> you can say it for me, but there is a right way: if it is plugin then let it will be plugged by the user
[16:21] <Mamarok> jillsmitt: it is not a plugin, how difficult is that to understand?
[16:22] <Mamarok> Media Devices is an integral üart of Amarok and if you want to use Media Players, you need these libraries
[16:22] <Mamarok> part*
[16:22] <jillsmitt> nevermind
[16:22] <jillsmitt> kubuntu is kubuntu
[16:22] <Mamarok> *sigh*
[16:25] <Lightning> Hello. I'm getting an error while trying to select a directory in Mixxx.
[16:25] <Lightning> QFileWatcher can't find path or omething like that
[16:26] <Lightning> Any fixes? It's a common problem I've noticed, bt I can't find anything but bug reports on it.
[16:26] <jillsmitt> how to create wireless network connection point?
[16:26] <jillsmitt> with networkmanager
[16:27] <Lightning> jillsmitt: Try #wireless They wold know more about this stuff
[16:34] <Lightning> No help here?
[16:53] <Riddell> ** packaging with the ninjas on shortly in #ubuntu-classroom with elite kubuntu ninja shadeslayer
[17:01] <jhutchins_lt> What's the current version of apache?
[17:16] <Guest58494> jhutchins_lt: Server version: Apache/2.2.14 (Ubuntu)
[17:37] <blowfish> hi. i need help with a javachat, i did yesterday, but ir doesn't work http://supremosjavachat.tripod.com/ any idea of why= i can't test in work becasue i haven0t got java
[17:39] <Pici> blowfish: Whats the question then? Are you trying to get java installed?
[17:40] <blowfish> i'm trying to someone test that javachat, i have it in home
[17:40] <blowfish> but i need in 10 minutes
[17:40] <blowfish> Pici: please, tell me if it loads
[17:40] <Pici> blowfish: What does this have to do with Kubuntu or Ubuntu?
[17:41] <blowfish> it makes /home/user/Documents/test/file.txt with chat logs
[17:41] <blowfish> it's a project
[17:42] <Pici> blowfish: This channel isn't for testing your projects in.  If you'd like, you can try #ubuntu-offtopic or #kubuntu-offtopic
[17:47] <blowfish> Pici: JOIN IN MY CHAT NOW http://supremosjavachat.tripod.com/
[17:47] <blowfish> DAMN!
[17:47] <blowfish> FUCK
[17:47] <FloodBotK1> blowfish: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:48] <Riddell> thanks Pici
[17:48] <Pici> Riddell: no problem
[17:48] <BluesKaj> should be banned from freenode , period
[18:04] <donaldbrasco> hello, can anyone help me set up my iphone os4 on kubuntu 10.04?
[18:04] <donaldbrasco> nothing happens when I plug it in - I've installed kubuntu-restricted-extras and gtkpod
[18:05] <michel_> hi all
[18:05] <michel_> can i play 3d games in wine using 'ati' driver?
[18:08] <jojo2008> hi all
[18:09] <jojo2008> i have been having trouble setting up compiz-fusion
[18:09] <James147> donaldbrasco: I think you should be able to copy media to it thorugh amarok... but I dont know the current state of i* support
[18:10] <donaldbrasco> james147: kubutnu won't even recognize that a device has been plugged in, though
[18:11] <James147> donaldbrasco: what tells you that? kubuntu's device notifier only notifies you of removable media (flash sticks, decent mp3 player ;) ) I beleave the I8 stuff need a spical protacall to communicate with it so wont show there
[18:16] <thomasfuston> Aloha, how to install a qtcurve.setup file? i searched a bit online but didnt found something
[18:17] <venkatesh> i want to install kubuntu on a completely new HDD without burning an ISO image to a CD or a USB
[18:17] <venkatesh> is it possible to do it?
[18:18] <blain> only using wubi install i think
[18:18] <blain> but i've never done it
[18:19] <venkatesh> no i mean i don't want windows..
[18:19] <venkatesh> i am already on kubuntu on one disk
[18:19] <venkatesh> i want to install kubuntu on another disk
[18:19] <venkatesh> is it possible to do it?
[18:19] <venkatesh> without buring a CD/USB?
[18:19] <blain> is might be but it's complicated
[18:20] <venkatesh> just was curious to try it out
[18:20] <slinker1> grub would be the issue i think
[18:20] <James147> venkatesh: unetbootin   i think it has an option to use your hd as the boot meada
[18:20] <James147> media
[18:20] <venkatesh> oh
[18:20] <blain> i was actually thinking about something like disk dump
[18:22] <venkatesh> james147:let me try it right away
[18:25] <James147> venkatesh: http://www.my-guides.net/en/guides/linux/147-how-to-install-linux-from-windows-using-unetbootin << its for windows but its prety much the same method for linux i beleave
[18:25] <venkatesh> cool.. let me try it james
[18:25] <James147> except to uninstall it you have to rerun unetbootin on the orignal os
[18:28] <donaldbrasco> james147: so, do you know what I have to do?
[18:29] <James147> donaldbrasco: if amarok dosent see it I am not sure :S I dont have an iphone nor have worked with one
[18:29] <donaldbrasco> james147: ok, thanks
[18:30] <venkatesh> james147: ok james
[18:36] <venkatesh> james147: james i have the external hd mounted on which i want to install kubuntu
[18:36] <venkatesh> i am not getting the option of selecting the hd at all in
[18:38] <James147> venkatesh: on unetbootin? did you change the "Type" to "Hard disk"?
[18:38] <venkatesh> yes..
[18:38] <venkatesh> i just see /
[18:41] <venkatesh> i am confused, i guess it is pointing it to the current disk
[18:42] <blain> try not to wipe your current disk
[18:42] <venkatesh> :)
[18:43] <slinker1> good advice :)
[18:43] <venkatesh> i'll better use the USB approach :) but i seriously wanted to give a try
[18:43] <blain> i've done
[18:43] <blain> but it involved copying the livecd i was using
[18:45] <yao_ziyuan> kubuntu guys, do this test:
[18:45] <yao_ziyuan> start a konsole, maximize it, type 'ls /usr/bin',
[18:45] <yao_ziyuan> minimize it, and then click it again to restore it.
[18:45] <yao_ziyuan> how long does it take to restore?
[18:46] <thomasfuston> i changed the colors of kde, after done that, all of my gtk apps are complete black except the window decoration, any idea?
[18:47] <blain> yao_ziyuan subsecond
[18:48] <yao_ziyuan> should take less than 0.1 seconds
[18:48] <yao_ziyuan> i left kubuntu because it took too long for this test
[18:49] <yao_ziyuan> which reflected it didn't compile kde very well
[18:49] <Pici> yao_ziyuan: Do you have a support question ?
[18:50] <yao_ziyuan> i wonder how kubuntu does this test now
[18:50] <Pici> yao_ziyuan: I ask because what you're describing could be a symptom of having the wrong video drivers enabled.  If you aren't asking how to fix that, but rather complaining, then you don't understand the purpose of this channel.
[18:51] <James147> venkatesh: thats all I see and I think is what you want... but if you are unnsure I couldtry running a test for you
[18:51] <James147> venkatesh: basically I thnk that its going to install to your root partition (aka '/')
[18:54] <naftilos76> hi everyone, what firewall fo you propose for kubuntu? I mean a GUI app! Like firestarter but for KDE!
[18:55] <James147> !firewall | naftilos76
[18:56] <ubuntu_> hihi
[18:58] <felsky> Boa tarde , algue  ai tem um tutorial para configurar o zoneminder
[19:00] <Riddell> ** Qt Quick talk in #ubuntu-classroom shortly
[19:06] <aguinaldo> hello
[19:06] <aguinaldo> I am with problam in Kubuntu with apt-get update
[19:07] <aguinaldo> I am received error messenger
[19:07] <James147> aguinaldo: what error?
[19:08] <aguinaldo> just moment I will look the log
[19:08] <aguinaldo> Error Type:
[19:08] <aguinaldo> Error Value: coercing to Unicode: need string or buffer, exceptions.SystemError found
[19:08] <aguinaldo> File : /usr/share/PackageKit/helpers/apt/aptBackend.py, line 2216, in
[19:08] <aguinaldo> main()
[19:08] <aguinaldo> File : /usr/share/PackageKit/helpers/apt/aptBackend.py, line 2213, in main
[19:08] <FloodBotK1> aguinaldo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:08] <aguinaldo> run(args, options.single)
[19:11] <aguinaldo> James147 I posted in http://paste.ubuntu.com/463090/
[19:12] <aguinaldo> I am using the Kubuntu 10.04
[19:12] <James147> aguinaldo: :S dosnt sound like apt-get (what hapens if you run: sudo apt-get update?)
[19:13] <aguinaldo> the problam in apt-get update is medibuntu.org
[19:13] <aguinaldo> the autentication is not correct
[19:16] <thomasfuston> I change colorscheme of kde, after that gtk2 apps completly black, after changed back to default colorscheme gtks apps still black, i reinstalled qtcurve, but no effect still gtk apps are black and not usable any idea?
[19:20] <thomasfuston> no one any idea do i really have to reinstall the whole system ??
[19:53] <isti37> hello everyone, anyone knows why kopete isn't working with Yahoo, it crashes when It tries to get my list.
[20:28] <dillon> anyone know some good themes/
[20:29] <ridin> -
[20:32] <Marble> hi
[20:33] <Marble> please help me
[20:34] <ridin> hi ask your question
[20:34] <ridin> asking to ask is not helpful for us to help you
[20:35] <Marble> what shud i do to play .mkv and .rmvb and other formats to play in kubuntu
[20:35] <Marble> i am a new user in linux
[20:35] <Marble> i dont know any thing deeply
[20:35] <James147> Marble: Install "kubuntu-restricted-extras"
[20:36] <James147> Marble: what will allow you to play most things including .mkv
[20:36] <Marble> where can i find it to install
[20:37] <Marble> i am not havin a net connection in my house
[20:37] <Marble> so can i download it here and use in home??
[20:38] <mimmo> kommen
[20:38] <ridin> marble, ?
[20:38] <Marble> s
[20:38] <mimmo> ich sterbre
[20:39] <ridin> !gr
[20:39] <ridin> er...
[20:39] <mimmo> hallo
[20:39] <ridin> i have no clue the language
[20:39] <kaddi> !de
[20:39] <kaddi> prolly
[20:39] <mimmo> non ce nessuno
[20:39] <Marble> so i was askin if i download the restricted extras can i install it in my home where i am not havin net
[20:40] <ridin> uh
[20:40] <Marble> ridin?
[20:40] <ridin> i'm not sure, i'm not very good with linux
[20:40] <Marble> ok man
[20:41] <Pici> !offline
[20:41] <Pici> !aptoncd
[20:41] <James147> Marble: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+package/kubuntu-restricted-extras  for lucid
[20:41] <ridin> yeah, i was about to say that
[20:41] <CQ> hello, I have the problem with virtuoso-t eating cycles like crazy... I found the bug report, but how do I fix it locallyß I don't inderstand the suggestion inthe bug
[20:41] <Marble> thanks guys
[20:42] <CQ> the bug is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-runtime/+bug/578215
[20:42] <Marble> hey james
[20:42] <Marble> kubuntu-restricted-extras 36 in i386 (Release)
[20:42] <Marble> kubuntu-restricted-extras 39 in i386 (Release)
[20:42] <Marble> which shud i download
[20:42] <Marble> ??
[20:42] <FloodBotK1> Marble: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:42] <ridin> the latest one
[20:43] <ridin> '39
[20:43] <ridin> '
[20:43] <Marble> no man
[20:43] <Marble> these must be something like win 32bit or 64bit like that
[20:43] <ridin> oh
[20:43] <ridin> they are both 32bit
[20:44] <Pici> Marble: kubuntu-restricted-extras is a metapackage.  You'll need all the pacakges that it depends on.
[20:44] <Pici> http://apt.alturl.com/ can get that for you, but it is going to be a lot of packages and isn't going to be quick to download.
[20:46] <Marble> i am new to linux
[20:46] <Marble> so wat you mean is i have to download all things in the list
[20:46] <Marble> that i get in search
[20:46] <Marble> ??
[20:46] <ridin> yes
[20:54] <mcurran> Anyone still using kde3 here?
[21:06] <Guest72776> hey i cant get amarok to play mp3s
[21:06] <Guest72776> can anyone help me
[21:07] <James147> Guest72776: install "kubuntu-restricted-extras"
[21:07] <Guest72776> oh ok thank you!
[21:32] <vbgunz> Is Kubuntu still working on papercuts?
[21:32] <maco> yes
[21:42] <vbgunz> I need to report a bug about how hard it is to report a bug on launchpad... seriously?
[21:43] <jussi> vbgunz: extremely simple
[21:43] <jussi> vbgunz: what package is the bug in?
[21:43] <vbgunz> you don't do it at launchpad do you?
[21:44] <vbgunz> its not a bug, a frigging paper cut that burns me up
[21:44] <jussi> vbgunz: which package?
[21:44] <vbgunz> jussi: in konqueror
[21:45] <jussi> vbgunz: help -> report bug (or similar wording)
[21:45] <jussi> vbgunz: alternately: ubuntu-bug konqueror
[21:46] <vbgunz> but its not really a bug in the sense of broken. more in semantics. I thought this would be a papercut and probably forever ignored at kde
[21:47] <jussi> vbgunz: that process sends it to LP
[21:47] <vbgunz> thanks, I didn't know that. just its not really a bug, just a severe annoyance. I was hoping the papercuts idea had it's own submission process
[21:54] <yofel> vbgunz: we have a papercuts project for simple annoying issues, https://edge.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts (should be made more public I guess)
[21:55] <yofel> vbgunz: did you already file the bug?
[21:56] <greenman35> i got a question
[21:57] <greenman35> how do u uninstall kubuntu
[21:57] <vbgunz> yofel, yeah I submitted the bug, which most likely belongs in papercuts, see here what I mention https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=244544
[21:57] <vbgunz> yofel: thanks for the link, I'll probably submit there too
[21:58] <yofel> vbgunz: give me the papercuts bug then too, you can link both on launchpad
[22:02] <vbgunz> yofel here it is on launchpad https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/605180
[22:04] <vbgunz> its really just a semantic bug, it's not broken just doing it wrong imho. I think it definitely fits the papercut idea
[22:04] <yofel> hm...
[22:05] <yofel> I was just trying it here (KDE 4.5rc2) and when I open the find files dialog the edit box has the focus, so that seems fixed already
[22:05] <yofel> let me find someone else to confirm it
[22:06] <vbgunz> man if it's fixed in 4.5, it's about time
[22:09] <James147> yofel: vbgunz: yeah same here, Find files/folders focues on "Named" field when it opens from konq on kde 4.5 RC2
[22:10] <yofel> good :)
[22:12] <vbgunz> man, thats awesome, we just need somebody with 4.4.5 to confirm I aint crazy
[22:12] <vbgunz> heh
[22:13] <vbgunz> KDE 4.5 RC1 had some serious nvidia regressions, did any of you experience them and have they improved in RC2?
[22:15] <yofel> I'm using maverick with 4.5 and nvidia and it *is* slow, but that's mostly noticible in gtk apps, I'm not sure if it's an nvidia issue
[22:15] <vbgunz> yofel you using the nvidia binary from the repos?
[22:15] <yofel> yes, meaning 256
[22:16] <James147> yofel: #ubuntu+1  for maverick support :)
[22:16] <vbgunz> me too
[22:16] <vbgunz> yofel have you tweaked out your xorg for some performance?
[22:16] <yofel> nope
[22:16] <vbgunz> yofel it helps plenty
[22:16] <MaVe> MAVERICK
[22:17] <yofel> vbgunz: if you really want to discuss that let's move to +1 ^^
[22:17] <MaVe> why did they have to name it maverick
[22:17] <MaVe> it nickalerts me
[22:17] <James147> MaVe: :) can your client not do case sensitive searcing?
[22:18] <James147> ^^highlighting
[22:18] <MaVe> James147: no, I wished it had some kind of ignore list
[22:18] <MaVe> for nickalerts
[22:18] <James147> MaVe: what are you using?
[22:18] <MaVe> mIRC with nbs-irc script
[22:21] <vbgunz> yofel did you get my messages?
[22:28] <rav> hello. i just enabled public_html in apache and the php scripts in it are not been parsed. all browsers ask to save or open the file. is this a bug on lucid?
[22:33] <rav> phpmyadmin works, for some reason
[22:34] <donaldbrasco> can anyone here help me set up my iphone os4 on kubuntu 10.04?
[22:34] <donaldbrasco> kubuntu doesn't seem to recognize it anywhere
[22:41] <fartboner> anyone alive to help a newbie?
[22:42] <James147> !ask | fartboner
[22:43] <fartboner> haha okay. I downloaded NVIDIA drivers for my card from nvidia.com and i can't seem to run it via terminal; it's saying i don't have permissions
[22:43] <melissawm> fartboner: have you tried using sudo in front of the command?
[22:43] <James147> fartboner: chmod u+x FILENAME   then ./FILENAME
[22:44] <James147> fartboner: sorry, the last one should be sudo ./FILENAME
[22:44] <fartboner> i've tried using sudo, it then says command not found, but i'll try James147's solution
[22:44] <fartboner> well damn, thanks guys
[22:45] <James147> fartboner: what chmod u+x FILENAME dose is it give the owner of the file (which should be you) premission to execute the program
[22:45] <fartboner> i appreciate the help, thanks again
[22:47] <fartboner> Okay, now i have another problem. I have to kill X, but im not really sure how.
[22:48] <fartboner> I used ctrl+alt+f1 to attempt to install, but not too sure how to kill x server from there.
[22:49] <James147> fartboner: logout (not needed but its cleaner to do taht first) then press alt+crtl+f1  this will take you to a virtual terminal, then run "sudo service kdm stop" top stop kdm (and x)
[22:49] <blain> ps aux | grep xserver
[22:49] <fartboner> okay, i'll try that. i'll come back if i have anymore trouble
[22:49] <James147> fartboner: to start it again run "sudo service kdm start" then alt+ctrl+f7 (possibally 8 or 9.... if 7 dosent work) if the previous command dosnt take you back to the loginmanager
[22:50] <fartboner> okay brb
[22:55] <darthganesh> where is X11R6 located in kubuntu
[23:02] <jcgs> darthganesh: which bit of X11R6 are you referring to? there is an X executable in /usr/bin if that's what you mean?
[23:05] <darthganesh> jcgs: I am installing program named 'sis'.In it default location for x11 is /usr/X11R6 in makefile. I don't found any such folder there.
[23:07] <jcgs> hmmm, presumably it is trying to find the X11 libraries to link with
[23:08] <jcgs> do you have the xorg-dev package installed?
[23:08] <darthganesh> jcgs: right now I m installing it
[23:09] <[daemon]> Whitor: then why do you blame it on her
[23:09] <jcgs> darthganesh: also, sources probably shouldn't provide you with a makefile directly, thhe configure script should generate it
[23:10] <darthganesh> jcgs: there is no configure script in it
[23:13] <BenPA> I am trying to reinstall grub on harddrive with livecd ... how do I find the harddrive ... I sought out faq used hda and sda but I am missing something
[23:13] <darthganesh> jcgs: Actually I m trying to install program 'ALLCN'. which I downloaded from here http://www.princeton.edu/~cad/projects.html . I really require help to install it.
[23:13] <fartboner_> having a bit of problem with my nvidia install regarding /usr/src/nv/nvidia.ko
[23:15] <darthganesh> jcgs: I installed xorg-dev. What now I should do.
[23:19] <James147> BenPA: harddrives in lunix are at /dev/[h|s]d[a-z]   meaning /dev/hda or /dev/sdb... (note newer drivers tend to be sd.. i havent seen one listed as hd is along time
[23:20] <James147> BenPA: with a being your first harddrive, b your second
[23:20] <BenPA> James147: correct that's what I used and it saud device for /boot" Not found or not a block device
[23:21] <James147> !grub2
[23:22] <James147> BenPA: Spifically: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20GRUB%202
[23:22] <James147> BenPA: given you are running karmic or lucid with grub 2 :)
[23:32] <fartboner> I fixed my previous problem with my Nvidia driver install. It has installed now, but upon returning to my desktop, it throws me back to tty1. To get back here i had to edit xorg.conf and change the driver to fbdev.
[23:35] <fartboner> upon viewing /var/log/Xorg.0.log: (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[23:35] <darthganesh> I run make command for installing perticular software. It displays lot of messages. And at last I got make: [all] Error 1 (ignored)
[23:35] <darthganesh> .How should I find where error occured
[23:36] <fartboner> darthganesh: depends on the software, most logs would be found in /var/log
[23:37] <James147> fartboner: I had that problem when I tryed the onces from the nvidia site :( I ended up not bothering with them and jsut using the ones in the repos. Although the problem is probally fixable I dident want to spend the time on finding one :)
[23:38] <fartboner> James147: how might i uninstall the nvidia drivers from the site?
[23:39] <James147> fartboner: nvidia-uninstall if i remember right (as root from terminal without x running)
[23:40] <fartboner> James147: ah thanks, might you know how to enable my wifi without kdm running? i hate going back and forth, logging in when i can just use ircii from the terminal
[23:41] <James147> fartboner: then delete the /etc/X11/xorg.conf and rerunning kdm. Once in kde again you can easaly install the nvidia drivers using jockey-kde
[23:42] <fartboner> James147: jockey-kde? is that supplied or will i have to apt-get install that?
[23:42] <James147> fartboner: not really have looked into it breafly but could never be bother to try to get it to work :)
[23:42] <James147> fartboner: its installed (listed as hardware drivers un kmenu)
[23:42] <fartboner> James147: alright, here goes nothing; i'll be right back to report my results
[23:49] <owner> have a headphones with a microphone and i cannot get it working in Skype can some 1 help me pls
[23:57] <darthganesh> what is error 127 in make
[23:58] <fartboner> it's me again. after uninstalling my nvidia and deleting xorg.conf i can't login.
[23:59] <fartboner> everytime i try to, it shows the harddrive portion of the KDE loading screen then throws me back to the login screen after a little bit of display corruption