[02:53] <natu`> Anyone might know some ways to fix this problem: Had a problem with the gnome desktop (things weren't the same way I originally set them up)... deleted all the .gnome, .gnome2, etc files to get a fresh desktop. I logged in fine the first time, it ran smoothly... then loggin in the next day, the settings were changed, and it was running slowly again
[02:54] <arthurb> Hi... does anyone know where to get packages to have the moodbar working in amarok... for ubuntu edgy
[02:54] <jadacyrus> How come you cant have the linux-restricted-modules installed with the NVIDIA Beta 9625 driveR
[02:55] <iter> how come ubuntu doesn't give me a happy ending
[02:56] <CarlFK> how can I tell if a package is installed (command line, not gui)
[02:56] <bimberi> CarlFK: apt-cache policy package
[02:56] <motin> sethk: i found the solution - removed the sources security rows - update - add again - update fetched the latest ones
[02:56] <Keyseir> !ubotu extended 2
[02:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about extended 2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:57] <Keyseir> !ubotu formatting
[02:57] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[02:57] <Kingsqueak> CarlFK: dpkg -l
[02:57] <bimberi> CarlFK: dpkg -l package   (look for ii at the start of the line)
[02:57] <Keyseir> How do I discern what format I should format a new HD?
[02:58] <LjL> Keyseir, what about using the default (which is ext3) if you don't have a preference
[02:58] <bimberi> Keyseir: sharing it with windows? -> fat32.  otherwise ext3
[02:58] <CarlFK> noo fat!  share the ext3 with win
[02:59] <Keyseir> OK, the first thing that popped up was "extended 2". You guys are suggesting "Extended 3"?
[02:59] <iter> ext3
[02:59] <LjL> !ext3
[02:59] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[02:59] <Keyseir> Is ext3 short for Extended 3?
[02:59] <iter> yes
[02:59] <regeya> ext3 == third extended filesystem (I think)
[02:59] <iter> omg a windows driver for ext2
[02:59] <iter> talk about scary
[02:59] <regeya> indeed.
[03:00] <LjL> iter, there are a few ones around actually
[03:00] <LjL> that's not the only one
[03:00] <jbroome> i used one for ext3 from sf.net
[03:00] <iter> the very notion of that is terrifying
[03:00] <CarlFK> LjL: i think it is the only one that does r/w as a driver
[03:00] <iter> I like my data uncorrupted, thankyew
[03:01] <CarlFK> iter, then you wouldn't be using win or fat, right ? :)
[03:01] <iter> ntfs is not that bad cmon
[03:01] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Kingsqueak:  you there
[03:01] <LjL> iter: if you want to share it with linux and like to have data uncorrupted, yes it's bad
[03:01] <iter> LjL: eff that
[03:02] <iter> LjL: that's what smb/cifs is for
[03:02] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Kingsqueak:  If you're there   sudo ndiswrapper -i ~/drivers/drivername.inf <-- how do I go to my driver it's on my desktop
[03:02] <LjL> iter, i'm sure you realize the issue with most people is dual boot...?
[03:02] <AdamKili> has there been any progress in the USB mass storage device recognition problem?
[03:02] <iter> dual boot is the biggest waste of time I can think of
[03:03] <iter> I reboot my workstation MAYBE once a month
[03:03] <andrewxps> anyone use ubuntu under parallels workstation - and get a terrible screen resolution???
[03:03] <LjL> iter, doesn't mean everybody does the same as you and uses computers the same way you do
[03:03] <iter> just get a hand-me-down dell and use synergy ;)
[03:03] <jadacyrus> synergy is cool
[03:04] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: ~/Desktop/<name>
[03:04] <iter> anyway how other people use computers has very little to do with buggy filesystem drivers that run in kernel mode on win32
[03:04] <jStefan> i'm actually considering this ext2 thing for windows, but i would like to make it read only (for safety)
[03:04] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: I suspect you didn't do this right the first time ;-)
[03:05] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Kingsqueak:  I used a GUI
[03:05] <LjL> iter, the issue is that if people dual boot and want to share a filesystem, it's going to be either NTFS, FAT32 or ext3 generally. NTFS is unsafe for writing on Linux, FAT32 is a weak filesystem generally speaking, and ext3 as far as i gather is relatively safe to write on Windows
[03:05] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: that'll teach ya
[03:05] <LjL> and filesystems run inside the kernel on Linux as we ll for that matter
[03:05] <RPO> Does anyone know how to make my DVD-RWs work (one won't mount and the other doesn't show up at all!)?
[03:06] <iter> psh I don't feel like arguing anymore, my only point is that I prefer my data nice and uncorrupted
[03:06] <iter> and fat32 has been around for ages
[03:06] <RPO> Does anyone know how to make a Read only system file RW?
[03:06] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Kingsqueak:  ..
[03:06] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> bcmwl5 is already installed. Use -e to remove it
[03:07] <tw|sT3d> guys were can i find my modem driver?
[03:07] <CarlFK> iter: if you din't want to argue, then you wouldn't say anything :)
[03:07] <suckamc> LjL: I've written to NTFS many times in ubntu with Ntfs-3g with no problems
[03:07] <LjL> !works for me
[03:07] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[03:07] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Kingsqueak:  lol done
[03:07] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> now what
[03:07] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Kingsqueak:  reboot?
[03:07] <iter> haha funny you would paste that ljl
[03:08] <iter> when we were just arguing about stable file systems ;)
[03:08] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: well when you did the ifup and ifdown what happened?  does ifconfig -a show wlan0 now?
[03:08] <adrenaline> Ok so I have easy ubuntu but some of the programs do not install any ideas?
[03:08] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: you *must* follow and read that doc
[03:08] <jStefan> i rather be able to pull files, instead of writing
[03:08] <suckamc> Ljl: just wanted to test the driver. and just stating, I've had no problems so far... lots of success
[03:09] <LjL> iter, i completely agree that you should just use ext3 on linux and ntfs on windows. BUT in many cases people simply start from the assumption that they're going to have a shared partition. and FAT32 might have been around for as long as you like, but it's still as weak a filesystem as it can get
[03:09] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> !paste
[03:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:09] <suckamc> Ljl: maybe means It might not be a good idea, but if someone won't test it it'll never get tested
[03:09] <robio376> mango: go here http://kbserver.netgear.com/inquira/default.asp?ui_mode=answer&prior_transaction_id=1421&action_code=5&highlight_info=16778031,620,672&turl=http%3A%2F%2Fkbserver.netgear.com%2Fkb_web_files%2Fn101145.asp&answer_id=63824#__highlight
[03:09] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Kingsqueak:  ... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30578/
[03:09] <ksyms> I am using amule 2.1.3, I am connected with HighID and it's not downloading anything, any idea?
[03:09] <iter> LjL: what is "weak" compared to a non-ms kernel mode driver from the oss world?
[03:10] <jStefan> inherently weak
[03:10] <LjL> iter: err hold on a second, what is the *Linux* ext3 driver if you a non-ms kernel mode driver from the oss world....:?
[03:10] <iter> LjL: there's tons of good code in linux but as far as writing stuff for windows ?!?!
[03:10] <adrenaline> i am trying to install libdvdcss via easy ubuntu but it won't install all though other stuff has any ideas?
[03:10] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Kingsqueak:  .. what now lol
[03:11] <iter> LjL: the difference being of course that there is adequate documentation for the linux kernel vs the windows kernel
[03:11] <tw|sT3d> guys, does ubuntu supoorts a US robotics modem???
[03:11] <bobby> us robotic modems are nearly always hardware modems (not win modems)
[03:11] <jStefan> i think the best solution is to be able to READ from the other OS and write locally, without the need of shared partitions. Linux can already read NTFS natively, and now we can make windows read ext2.
[03:12] <bobby> thus it probably suhould
[03:12] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: try this   'ndiswrapper-1.8'    does that command do anything for you?
[03:12] <iter> jStefan: agree
[03:12] <LjL> jStefan: that's a compromise that will work in many cases
[03:12] <CarlFK> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - who is in charge of that site?  the box is small, and "feeback" is 404
[03:12] <tw|sT3d> bobby: so what does it means? in sorry for being a noob
[03:12] <adrenaline> can anybody hear me lol?
[03:12] <jStefan> CarlFK, Seveas
[03:13] <CarlFK> adrenaline: loud and clear
[03:13] <LjL> CarlFK, the guy who's in charge knows about the textbox.
[03:13] <bruenig> !libdvdcss
[03:13] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  -  libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:13] <adrenaline> good it is working
[03:13] <LjL> now fixing it is another *entirely* different issue, but he knows >:
[03:13] <adrenaline> anybody use easy ubuntu?
[03:13] <LjL> !easyubuntu
[03:13] <jStefan> !easyubuntu | adrenaline
[03:13] <ubotu> easyubuntu is easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/  -  For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[03:13] <ubotu> adrenaline: easyubuntu is easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/  -  For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[03:13] <bruenig> !libdvdcss | adrenaline
[03:13] <ubotu> adrenaline: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  -  libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:13] <FuriousGeorge> hey all.  i upgraded my nvidia driver to 9629 and i got beryl working.  then i restarted my computer and i got an API mismatch problem and X wont load
[03:14] <FuriousGeorge> it says the kernel module is 8762 while the x module is 9629
[03:14] <iter> FuriousGeorge: upgrade restricted modules to match kernel
[03:14] <adrenaline> ubotu It won't install
[03:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about It won't install - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:14] <adrenaline> I know where it is
[03:14] <tw|sT3d> bobby: can i still use my US robotics modem??
[03:14] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> no kingsqueak lol
[03:14] <LjL> !bot | adrenaline
[03:14] <ubotu> adrenaline: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl  -  Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:14] <squidink> I've just installed edgy, all smooth, but the mouse selection behaviour in gnome-terminal now no longer does copy-on-select. Seems to still work for other apps, and middle-click-to-paste still works in the terminal. Any ideas?
[03:14] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Kingsqueak:  brb in 10 mins
[03:14] <c_lisp> man I always have issue with veiwing videos on webpages the voices and video not being sync is there a single solution?
[03:14] <FuriousGeorge> iter: i come from gentoo..  this is new to me, could you elaborate a bit
[03:14] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: type  ndiswrapper<tab<tab>  does it show you anything other than plain 'ndiswrapper' ?
[03:14] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: meaning hit the tab key twice
[03:15] <jStefan> LjL, how many ext2 projects on windows do you know of? i found another on sf.net
[03:15] <adrenaline> Is anybody watching movies or playing mp3's in ubuntu edgy?
[03:15] <FuriousGeorge> iter: the nvidia-glx package apt-get wants is the 8xxx build
[03:15] <tw|sT3d> guys kindly help me connecting to the intenet using my US robotics modem
[03:15] <Pelo> adrenaline, yes
[03:15] <LjL> jStefan, i don't really know how many separate projects there are, but just google "ext2 windows"
[03:15] <jStefan> !info nvidia-glx edgy
[03:15] <ubotu> nvidia-glx: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 1.0.8776+<IP_ADDRESS>-1 (edgy), package size 3970 kB, installed size 12312 kB
[03:16] <RPO> the DVD i used to load edgy doesn't work in edgy!
[03:16] <adrenaline> Pelo:  I have dowloaded easyubuntu and ti won't install libdvdcss
[03:16] <jadacyrus> Do you need the linux-restricted-modules isntalled to get peripherals such as webcams working?
[03:16] <adrenaline> Pelo: thanks
[03:16] <jStefan> LjL, i was hoping you had a good inventory with reviews :P
[03:16] <iter> FuriousGeorge: apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname-r`
[03:16] <iter> FuriousGeorge: oh crud typo
[03:16] <iter> FuriousGeorge: apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[03:17] <squidink> in fact copy from gnome-terminal seems to be broken altogether.
[03:17] <LjL> jStefan, eh nope. only one i even really used is explore2fs
[03:17] <squidink> seems to be back after a restart.
[03:18] <FuriousGeorge> iter: cant find linux-restricted-modules-uname -r
[03:18] <RPO> the DVD burner used to load edgy doesn't work in edgy!
[03:18] <iter> FuriousGeorge: gotta put those ` ` in
[03:18] <iter> FuriousGeorge: or else just run uname -r and type that in
[03:18] <LGKeiz-Windows> Kingsqueak gimmie 10 minutes
[03:18] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: do this    'sudo apt-cache search ndis | grep ^ndis'
[03:19] <jstew> Is there a way I can get apt to use the packages in my /var/cache/apt/archive dir instead of downloading the debs again?
[03:19] <jstew> I copied the debs off of another machine
[03:20] <KillerDemon> http://killerdemon.ath.cx/Nummer10.wma  <- The oldschool terrorrist are back!!
[03:20] <LjL> jstew, it did it without a fuss for me. you'll have to set the right permissions though perhaps
[03:20] <FuriousGeorge> iter: its already the latest version, but nvidia-glx is the 8XXX series module
[03:21] <jadacyrus> Do you need the linux-restricted-modules isntalled to get peripherals such as webcams working?
[03:21] <bimberi> jstew: it should use them automatically.  look for messages like "need to get 2MB/100MB" when you run a commandwhich means you already have 98MB downloaded
[03:21] <SurfnKid> does anyone know how to change the MAC address on a WIFI card
[03:21] <SurfnKid> in ubuntu?
[03:21] <iter> FuriousGeorge: ah gotta add a repo and update nvidia-glx
[03:21] <SurfnKid> would be kind to help me
[03:22] <RPO> anyone know how to mount a CD in Ubuntu?
[03:22] <jstew> yeah, I have the packages but it always says I have to download all of them
[03:22] <c_lisp> anybody had trouble with azureus
[03:22] <c_lisp> torrent
[03:22] <LjL> !info macchanger | SurfnKid
[03:22] <FuriousGeorge> iter: how do i update nvidia-glx in kubuntu.  im pretty sure thats what i need
[03:22] <ubotu> macchanger: utility for manipulating the MAC address of network interfaces. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.5.0-1 (edgy), package size 85 kB, installed size 320 kB
[03:22] <jstew> I notice a pkgcache.bin in the parent dir. Looks like a dbm file
[03:22] <mango> robio376: It is working , thanks a lot, I am very happy:). Your help is much appreciated
[03:22] <SurfnKid> LjL, you rock
[03:22] <SurfnKid> thx
[03:22] <iter> FuriousGeorge: add deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/ edgy main-edgy
[03:22] <bimberi> jstew: and they're in /var/cache/apt/archives.  package.bin isn't relevant
[03:22] <jstew> could it be that the packages need to be in that file also?
[03:22] <jstew> Ok
[03:23] <iter> FuriousGeorge: to /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:23] <jStefan> LjL, wouldn't an open source ext2 driver from sf.net be preferred over the one at fs-driver.org ?
[03:23] <bimberi> jstew: perhaps there are more recent versions
[03:23] <robio376> mango: no prob glad to be of some help!
[03:23] <iter> FuriousGeorge: then apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[03:23] <jstew> yeah, the files are in /var/cache/apt/archives. I'll check the perms
[03:23] <iter> FuriousGeorge: see if that updates nvidia-glx
[03:23] <iter> FuriousGeorge: otherwise I have another repo in my sources.list to ttry
[03:24] <LjL> jStefan, i didn't write the bot factoid, and not having done any real test, i'll just trust the judgment of whoever wrote the factoid as to which is the most reliable
[03:24] <Axsuul> anyone know if Network Manager for ubuntu is bugged or something,  i click on the tray icon and the only options are: Enable Networking, Connection INformation, and About, theres nothing about wireless networking, etc
[03:24] <RPO> this Linux thing seems kinda crappy -- kinda like Windows 3.1 -- maybe I should go back to Windows
[03:24] <jStefan> LjL, that's where i was going, a revision of the factoid might be nice, but that would require further discussion, involving more people
[03:25] <adrenaline> Pelo it is downloading thanks for the tip
[03:25] <tw|sT3d> elow
[03:25] <tw|sT3d> any here who can help me out
[03:26] <FuriousGeorge> iter: i added the repo, saw that it resolved when i updated and upgraded, but still the 8776 build
[03:26] <iter> FuriousGeorge: ok try deb http://gandalfn.club.fr/ubuntu edgy .
[03:26] <sethk> RPO, use whatever works better for you.
[03:26] <mango> robio376: only one more problem, can not specify the port number
[03:26] <FuriousGeorge> iter: did i mention this was working prior to my last reboot
[03:26] <iter> FuriousGeorge: it has a . at the end too
[03:26] <FuriousGeorge> iter: and im amd64
[03:26] <irish_rebel> hi guys?
[03:27] <iter> FuriousGeorge: argh check beryl wiki
[03:27] <iter> FuriousGeorge: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/
[03:27] <robio376> mango: on the router?
[03:27] <sethk> Axsuul, possibly it didn't detect your wireless hardware
[03:27] <mango> robio376: yes
[03:28] <CarlFK> how can I find what packages I have installed that depend on liblua50-dev ?
[03:28] <robio376> mango: hang on a sec
[03:28] <LjL> CarlFK: try removing it, and you'll see ;-)
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[03:28] <c_lisp> :/
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[03:28] <jrib> !ops
[03:28] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[03:28] <sethk> wonderful, just what the night needed
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[03:28] <c_lisp> k
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[03:29] <jadacyrus> OH NOES!! HAX0RS
[03:29] <LjL> /mode #ubuntu +R
[03:29] <c_lisp> lol
[03:29] <Axsuul> how would i restart my network interfaces
[03:29] <LjL> NOTICE - We are having some technical difficulties. Please don't worry, and try to avoid unnecessary channel traffic. Thank you!
[03:29] <sethk> Axsuul, at the command line, or through the dialogs?
[03:29] <c_lisp> Axsuul ifconfig interface down
[03:29] <Axsuul> ya, terminal
[03:29] <robio376> mango: on your router go to  Security > Services > Add Custom Service
[03:29] <sethk> Axsuul, ifconfig eth0 down         ifconfig eth0 up           for example with eth0
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[03:30] <Axsuul> thanks
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[03:30] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> hey
[03:30] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> okay
[03:30] <sethk> LjL, most of the traffic seems to be your message.  :)
[03:30] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> it works again
[03:30] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> lol
[03:30] <Axsuul> so did u guys vote today
[03:30] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> o_o
[03:30] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Kingsqueak:  you there
[03:31] <sethk> Axsuul, no, if you vote, they can call you for jury duty
[03:31] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Kingsqueak:  Im back
[03:31] <LjL> sethk, no wonder, i had a 17 seconds lag for some reason
[03:31] <iter> Axsuul: also /etc/init.d/networking restart
[03:31] <sethk> LjL,  :)
[03:31] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Kingsqueak:  What did you want me to do again:?
[03:31] <c_lisp> :)
[03:31] <adrenaline> pelo this automatix2 is great thanks
[03:31] <LjL> !automatix
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[03:31] <qhjobw> NAZIS
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[03:31] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> kline!
[03:31] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> D:
[03:32] <sethk> LjL, he's back.
[03:32] <MugginsM> I'm assuming that looked different on his machine
[03:32] <iter> umm, /kb ?
[03:32] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Kingsqueak:  you there?
[03:32] <sethk> MugginsM, who knows?  it's porn spam
[03:32] <adrenaline> wtf!!
[03:32] <eric_pee> Hey guys, I accidentally screwed up my sources.list - can someone pastebin me one?
[03:32] <tw|sT3d> help me guys///
[03:32] <robio376> mango: here just follow the instuction here  http://kbserver.netgear.com/kb_web_files/n101145.asp#FR114PAnchor
[03:32] <Zibby> that was cute
[03:33] <mango>  robio376: yes, now do I choose tcp or udp as a protocol
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[03:34] <robio376> mango: tcp
[03:34] <aios> my fan is running non-stop, how can i fix this?
[03:35] <mango> robio376: thanks man.
[03:35] <robio376> mango: not a problem
[03:35] <RPO> I'm unable to mount a CD
[03:36] <iter> is all that octal gibberish in cyrillic or what
[03:36] <mango> want to ask a silly question please. I recieved many tabs stating nazi in them what was that about? were they refered to me
[03:36] <sethk> aios, did you find the lmsensors module?
[03:37] <dooglus> mango: probably private messages.  I didn't see them.
[03:37] <mist_0> Hi, im trying to install alsa sound drivers for my sound card, but when i call "./configure --with-cards=emu10k1 --with-sequencer=yes" I get an error saying unsupported soundcard emu10k1
[03:37] <sethk> aios, that's the module that controls fan speed, cpu freq stepdown, etc.
[03:37] <robio376> no that was just some idiot mango
[03:37] <LjL> mango, no. it was a spammer.
[03:37] <sethk> mango, everybody got them, until the ops bounced the guy
[03:37] <iter> just when you though efnet was the last bastion of the nazi spammer
[03:37] <sethk> mango, then he came back again.  so he was shooting at everybody, not just you.
[03:37] <aios> sethk: i found the webpage and read about it, but i got the impression it was used to monitor it, not change the settings
[03:38] <sethk> aios, used for both, I believe.
[03:38] <sethk> aios, you monitor and change on the same bus, and that's the driver for the bus.
[03:38] <aios> sethk: i'll try to apt-get it
[03:38] <dooglus> mango: not everyone got them - I didn't
[03:38] <mango> sethk: thanks
[03:38] <n0dl|laptop> i get this error when i sudo apt-get update  ttp://pastebin.com/819449
[03:38] <sethk> aios, do you have the intel ICH chipset, by the way?
[03:38] <n0dl|laptop> i get this error when i sudo apt-get update  http://pastebin.com/819449
[03:38] <robio376> tw|sT3d: what's your problem?
[03:38] <knix> Is there any way to lower the level of the gnome-panel so its dropshadow isn't over maximized windwos?
[03:38] <aios> sethk: no, AMD turion 64
[03:38] <sagarp> whenever i click a ".desktop" file, ubuntu gives me errors and says it cant open it..the same goes for image files, even after i add a file type association...is this a gnome-vfs problem ors omething??
[03:39] <sethk> n0dl|laptop, I get that frequently when sites are down or busy.  I try again and usually the download completes
[03:39] <sethk> aios, ok, there's a bug I know about, for fan speed, but only for the intel chipset.
[03:39] <n0dl|laptop> sethk: its been happening all day
[03:39] <sethk> n0dl|laptop, consistently?  does it ever work for those files?  or is it different files
[03:39] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Hey.
[03:40] <sethk> n0dl|laptop, in other words, might it just be heavy traffic, or are there particular files that you can never download?
[03:40] <dooglus> n0dl|laptop: what if you visit http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-security/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz in a web browser?  can you see it OK then?
[03:40] <mist_0> Hi, im trying to install alsa sound drivers for my sound card, but when i call "./configure --with-cards=emu10k1 --with-sequencer=yes" I get an error saying unsupported soundcard emu10k1
[03:40] <n0dl|laptop> dooglus: yes i can
[03:40] <n0dl|laptop> sethk: its always that particular file
[03:41] <dooglus> n0dl|laptop: try running   "sudo rm -f /var/lib/apt/lists/*" and then trying again
[03:41] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> lol
[03:41] <boxahy> when installing vmware server i get. What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[03:41] <boxahy> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]  /usr/src/linux-headers-<IP_ADDRESS>-386/include
[03:41] <boxahy> The path "/usr/src/linux-headers-<IP_ADDRESS>-386/include" is not an existing
[03:41] <boxahy> directory.
[03:41] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Hey
[03:41] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Kingsqueak you there?
[03:41] <kronoman> hello
[03:42] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> >.>
[03:42] <LjL> boxahy: you do need the linux headers for installing vmware server, i think. or you could use the player if you preferred to avoid that
[03:42] <LjL> !vmware-player
[03:42] <ubotu> vmware-player: Free virtual machine player from VMware. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.2-2 (edgy), package size 11602 kB, installed size 31336 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[03:42] <piedoggie> what's best way to make a simple substitution across multiple files?
[03:43] <dooglus> piedoggie: sed -i s/old/new *
[03:43] <n0dl|laptop> dooglus:
[03:43] <n0dl|laptop> http://pastebin.com/819457
[03:43] <dooglus> piedoggie: sorry...   sed -i 's/old/new/g' *
[03:43] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> >.>
[03:44] <piedoggie> I need to do that on specific files in a hierarchy.  A selective fine is probably the best solution combined with your sed example
[03:44] <thor> dooglus: now that was impressive. When I grow up I want to learn bash scripting too <smile>
[03:44] <adam_> good evenin
[03:45] <boxahy> anyone else having problems with the wine wget servers?
[03:45] <dooglus> thor: that's not bash scripting - that's just sed
[03:45] <boxahy> automatix and the one on the wiki are timing out
[03:45] <boxahy> at 99%
[03:45] <n0dl|laptop> thor: there are sed scripts
[03:45] <rBlong2us> hi
[03:45] <thor> dooglus: yeah...I have always found that stuff confusing. Could master machine code...but not that
[03:45] <n0dl|laptop> are there any other apt files that i can delete>
[03:45] <n0dl|laptop> ?
[03:46] <rBlong2us> for the life of me, my LCD screen is maddly flickering
[03:46] <dooglus> piedoggie: find . -type f -name '*.txt' -o -name '*.rtf' | while read x; do sed -i 's/old/new/g' "$x"; done
[03:46] <thor> showoff
[03:46] <rBlong2us> I need to fix this... it doesn't flicker with other Distros, but I wanna have Ubuntu
[03:46] <sethk> looks like the republicans are going to hold on by maybe two or three seats.
[03:46] <rBlong2us> please...
[03:47] <dooglus> n0dl|laptop: you still get the same error after running that 'sudo rm' command?
[03:47] <robio376> rBlong2us: sounds like your refresh rate is wrong
[03:47] <boxahy> !wine
[03:47] <n0dl|laptop> dooglus: yes
[03:47] <makkk> can someone help me purge my configs or settings or something? whenever i log into gnome, X crashes after a few seconds. however, i've created a new user and i can log in with this new user just fine. what can i do?
[03:47] <rBlong2us> robio376: I have a sis driver and I've tried all types of combinations
[03:47] <rBlong2us> this is insane
[03:48] <rBlong2us> refresh rate should be ok
[03:48] <aios> sethk: the documentation for ls-sensors is .. overwhelming for a newb like me
[03:48] <robio376> how about your hsync and Vsync?
[03:48] <Ryugi> ubuntu is ta greatest
[03:49] <dooglus> n0dl|laptop: what's the corresponding line in sources.list say?  is it "deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe" ?
[03:49] <Ryugi> so i guess ubuntu is up there with red hat enterprise linux
[03:49] <mist_0> can anyone help me figure out how to set up my alsa sound card drivers?  I have the drivers and everything and a help page telling me how to do stuff, but one part of it fails, saying "unsupported device"
[03:49] <abnerian> Hey, I just did a fresh install of Madwifi. Is Network Manager necessary?
[03:49] <rBlong2us> bye the way I like better ubuntu than kubuntu
[03:49] <sethk> aios, it isn't great.  got a url for it?  I"ll try to find the fan info.
[03:49] <LjL> !offtopic | Ryugi
[03:49] <abnerian> Or is Command Line alright?
[03:49] <sethk> abnerian, command line is fine, if you don't need the gui
[03:49] <aios> sethk: http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/Documentation
[03:49] <rBlong2us> kubuntu had a lot of annoying pop ups for just about anything that fill the screen unneceraly
[03:49] <abnerian> Alright.
[03:49] <abnerian> Thank ya.
[03:50] <sethk> aios, ok, I'm also helping a couple of paying customers, so I'll be in and out and I can't promise.  but I'll try to find it.
[03:50] <aios> sethk: im in man fancontrol, but i can't use anything in there
[03:50] <aios> sethk: thanks, i really appreciate
[03:50] <sethk> aios, k
[03:50] <n0dl|laptop> dooglus: yes
[03:50] <Ryugi> what is the ubuntu off topic channel
[03:51] <LjL> Ryugi: #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:51] <dooglus> n0dl|laptop: can you paste the whole output from a "sudo apt-get update" please?
[03:51] <boxahy> erm im installing vmware player in automatix and it just keeps on kinda looping the dhcp setup stuff
[03:51] <rBlong2us> what is the ubuntu installer?
[03:51] <rBlong2us> I don't see it anywhere
[03:51] <LjL> !automatix | boxahy
[03:52] <thor> rBlong2us: you boot off the live cd and install is an icon on the desktop
[03:52] <n0dl|laptop> dooglus: http://pastebin.com/819463
[03:52] <LjL> boxahy: we don't support automatix. try the #automatix channel, or remove automatix and try installing vmware player normally
[03:52] <daviddixon> I am new to ubuntu...how do I install java and mozilla mplayer using the package manager
[03:52] <dooglus> n0dl|laptop: thanks
[03:52] <dredhammer> how can you install deb packages that rely on one another in a bulk install?
[03:52] <boxahy> !vmware
[03:53] <thor> daviddixon: just choose sun-java and mplayer-plugin and then 'apply'
[03:53] <dredhammer> if synaptic can do it there must be a manual way
[03:53] <n0dl|laptop> dooglus: np
[03:53] <makkk> can someone tell me how to purge my gnome settings?
[03:53] <thor> dredhammer: dpkg -i pkgname should do it
[03:54] <Lathiat> makkk: well you can remove the .gnome2 directory perhaps
[03:54] <Lathiat> makkk: (rather than remove it best 'rename' it to something else
[03:54] <Lathiat> makkk: thatl get "alot" of them
[03:54] <dredhammer> ok thanks
[03:54] <sethk> makkk, in your home directory, there is a .gnome-something (.gnome2, I think) subdirectory.  if you remove it, it will revert to what you saw the first time you ran it
[03:54] <sethk> makkk, but that's rather draconian.
[03:54] <makkk> Lathiat. i've tried removing it all together. there still seems to be a problem
[03:54] <thor> daviddixon: the full names are sun-java5-bin and mozilla-mplayer
[03:55] <sethk> makkk, specifically?
[03:55] <nigro> hello
[03:55] <Max222-sweden> Hey all
[03:55] <dummyuno> hello there, I've updated to Edgy and that broke X here, I'm now back and running using the vesa driver, but I'd like to recover the little 3D accel my hardware supports, any help
[03:55] <makkk> sethk, i've tried removing so many directories... i log into gnome, it starts for a few seconds, the X crashes. i created a new user, no problems at all
[03:56] <NEWBIE--> how to install ubuntu using a partition, i have window2000 currently
[03:56] <makkk> sethk, i removed .gconf, .gnome, .gnome2,
[03:56] <tw|sT3d> guys why cant i DL the scanModem.gz file
[03:56] <makkk> you name it
[03:56] <sethk> makkk, there are some application specific directories in your home also
[03:56] <tw|sT3d> any one has a copy???
[03:56] <dcraven> makkk, you need to move/delete gconf etc with GNOME not running.
[03:56] <Max222-sweden> Anyone here have good idea of how to get openvpn to work in bridge mode if i have an external router in the base network? I have a a tun up and running but i can only access the machine that is the vpn-server
[03:56] <NEWBIE--> how to install ubuntu using a partition, i have window2000 currently -- all other partitions are NTFS
[03:56] <LjL> NEWBIE--, the installer will give you an option for shrinking your Windows partition and making one for Ubuntu
[03:56] <sethk> makkk, are any programs automatically starting up when you run gnome?  if you can see anything on the screen before it dies.
[03:56] <dummyuno> NEWBIE, defrag your windows first, then run the live CD and click install
[03:56] <makkk> dcraven, i remove it while logged into my other account
[03:56] <sethk> makkk, also, check your X log, and your system logs
[03:56] <rBlong2us> hi what's the Ubuntu installer? I don't see it on the menus
[03:56] <dooglus> n0dl|laptop: that's weird.  I don't know why that's happening.
[03:56] <NEWBIE--> i dont have CD-drive now
[03:56] <sethk> makkk, they are both in /var/log.  look in /var/log/Xorg.... and /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog
[03:57] <dooglus> n0dl|laptop: what if you do this, to download it manually?
[03:57] <dooglus> n0dl|laptop: sudo bash -c "wget -O- http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-security/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz | gunzip > /var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper-security_universe_binary-i386_Packages"
[03:57] <makkk> sethk, some things start to show up.
[03:57] <boxahy> wow automatix is now screwed up officially
[03:57] <sethk> makkk, do you know what programs?
[03:57] <NEWBIE--> how to install ubuntu using a partition, i have window2000 currently -- all other partitions are NTFS
[03:57] <sethk> boxahy, it wasn't, before?
[03:57] <boxahy> it always tries to config vmware player
[03:57] <LjL> boxahy: ?
[03:57] <dcraven> makkk, you could start with a new /home/user directory and move things over one by one until you get the problem I suppose.
[03:57] <boxahy> it worked before sethk
[03:57] <boxahy> lol
[03:57] <sethk> NEWBIE--, you just tell it to use the partition.
[03:57] <LjL> NEWBIE--, please stop repeating. you've already been answered - twice
[03:57] <rsteele> sup?
[03:57] <Max222-sweden> Anyone that has OPENVPN working with linux and windows?
[03:57] <sethk> boxahy, it has a bad rep, as I'm sure you kow.
[03:58] <tw|sT3d> HELP
[03:58] <makkk> dcraven... yeah, i was hoping i wouldnt have to do that. i have quite a bit installed and tweaked. tha'ts why i upgraded intead of reinstalled. but... i'll have to do what i have to do.
[03:58] <daviddixon> not finding either one. which repository do i need to enable?
[03:58] <LjL> tw|sT3d: yes, people generally come to this channel to ask for help. what's your question?
[03:58] <thor> daviddixon: not sure...I have them all enabled <smile>
[03:59] <tw|sT3d> im using a US robotics modem.. does ubuntu support this type of modem?
[03:59] <Keyseir> I set the graphical "disk manager" to format my new 200 GB external HD. It's still been going after lik 30 minutes. How long should this take?
[03:59] <dcraven> makkk, well most of your settings will clearly be unrelated, right. You can cp -a those directories/files over right away.
[03:59] <tw|sT3d> coz im trying 2 make a dial up connection
[03:59] <makkk> dcraven, sethk, i'm sorry i forgot to mention, things work ok if i fun dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg and dont have my second monitor attached. I really want my second monitor attached. and it works just fine with the new user
[03:59] <sethk> Keyseir, possibly.  is it usb?  if so, if it's slow speed usb, that could well be normal
[03:59] <rBlong2us> what graphical installer is it used for Ubuntu?
[04:00] <rBlong2us> what do I have to install?
[04:00] <rBlong2us> thanks
[04:00] <sethk> makkk, some borked program must be opening a window on the second screen
[04:00] <Keyseir> sethk, Yes it's usb. It's a usb2 drive but I think I only have usb1 on the machine. Is there a way to tell if it's stalled or working normally?
[04:00] <dummyuno> rBlong2us: you using the liveCD?
[04:00] <dcraven> makkk, it has to be something in your home dir afaik if one user is fine, and another is not.
[04:00] <LjL> tw|sT3d: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[04:00] <sethk> Keyseir, you can use strace -p to get a system call trace of the program.
[04:00] <tw|sT3d> yeah i read that
[04:00] <daviddixon> getting an error on universe when running update
[04:00] <makkk> dcraven, i meant if i run 'dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[04:00] <tw|sT3d> LjL: but the prob is i cant DL the scanModem.gz
[04:01] <dummyuno> anyone can tell the right driver for an ATI Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x in a laptop?
[04:01] <makkk> dcraven, i'd have to 'mv' them since i dont think i have enough room to have two copies of everything
[04:01] <dooglus> Keyseir: USB1.1 writes about 1Mb per second.  so 200GB would take around 200,000 seconds, or about 55 hours.  can that be right?
[04:01] <natu`> Having a problem keeping my settings the same for each time I login. The first time it works fine (lag-free) after a fresh wipe of the GNOME desktop, then the next time I log in, the settings are changed and it's sluggish. Any suggestions? Or would using KDE work more efficiently?
[04:01] <rBlong2us> dummyuno: no, I've already installed it
[04:01] <LjL> tw|sT3d, download it from another machine
[04:01] <Max222-sweden> Do anyone know how i can configure the OPENVPN server to bridge connection if it only has 1 networkcard and is in a network with an External DHCP-server?
[04:01] <Keyseir> 55 hours, crap
[04:01] <sethk> allen's holding on in virginia, and stell is holding on in maryland.  too eraly to tell for maryland, though.
[04:01] <tw|sT3d> machine?? im using windows right now
[04:01] <makkk> sethk, i'll look for a culprit. is there any way to know what is trying to go to the second screen?
[04:02] <sethk> Keyseir, 55 hours?
[04:02] <dooglus> Keyseir: I don't suppose a format has to write to every piece of the disk - I thought it just marked the space as empty.
[04:02] <dcraven> makkk, sounds like you're pretty tight for space eh? :)
[04:02] <sethk> dooglus, it isn't really a format
[04:02] <dooglus> Keyseir: it would take 55 hours to fill the disk up using 'slow' usb
[04:02] <Keyseir> sethk, I was responding to what dooglus said
[04:02] <tw|sT3d> LjL: machine?? im using windows right now
[04:02] <sethk> dooglus, but it does writes scattered throughout the volume
[04:02] <sethk> Keyseir, ok
[04:02] <boxahy> GAH. now everytime i apt-get vmware player takes over
[04:02] <sethk> dooglus, usb 1 can be very very very slow
[04:02] <LjL> tw|sT3d: then download it from windows
[04:02] <makkk> dcraven, yes. well, not too tight, but above 50%, so i cant make two copies
[04:02] <piedoggie> just love windows.  If it wasn't for speech recognition,...
[04:02] <sethk> dooglus, but you are write, it doesn't write over the entire partition.
[04:02] <Keyseir> sethk, How to I figure out what a program is called to do an strace? I'm using the "Disks Manager" from the graphical System menu
[04:03] <dooglus> sethk: I get almost exactly 1MB/s whether I use windows or linux with my USB1.1 external disk
[04:03] <tw|sT3d> LjL: im trying to but its forbiden 403
[04:03] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Kingsqueak you there yet
[04:03] <dooglus> sethk: read and write, both the same speed
[04:03] <dummyuno> rBlong2us: then you want to install something else, right? if so, then maybe synaptics or add/remove under applications is your answer
[04:03] <sethk> dooglus, that's about right.  that's about 35 times slower than a typical ide
[04:03] <piedoggie> as I was saying, before Firefox crashed, I was trying the find expression
[04:03] <boxahy> well my install is fscked up
[04:04] <boxahy> i cant apt-get
[04:04] <dooglus> Keyseir: the process will probably have "mkfs" in its name I think.  try a "ps -ef | grep mkfs"
[04:04] <boxahy> or else vmware-player takes over
[04:04] <natu`> Anyone happen to catch the problem I posted?
[04:04] <Mantice> does beryl run on the latest kernal yet ?
[04:04] <Vaske_Car> emule on Ubuntu? What is called?
[04:04] <dooglus> Vaske_Car: amule
[04:04] <Vaske_Car> tx
[04:04] <sethk> dooglus, that shows that the interface is the bottleneck, not the device, because, if it were anything in the device, write would be taking longer.
[04:04] <LjL> tw|sT3d: true, it appears to be down.
[04:04] <thor> daviddixon: sorry, I tried to find the actual repos, but no luck.
[04:05] <dooglus> sethk: the device supports USB2 and firewire too, both of which make it about 10 times faster.
[04:05] <tw|sT3d> LjL: oic.. maybe i try to DL it later or tom.
[04:05] <boxahy> Selecting previously deselected package linux-headers-2.6.15-27-386.
[04:05] <boxahy> Unpacking linux-headers-2.6.15-27-386 (from .../linux-headers-2.6.15-27-386_2.6.15-27.48_i386.deb) ...
[04:05] <boxahy> Setting up vmware-player (1.0.1-4) ...
[04:05] <boxahy> Now configuring VMware Player.  (This may take some time...)
[04:05] <boxahy> Configuring a bridged network for vmnet0.
[04:05] <Keyseir> root      6453  6452  0 21:25 pts/0    00:00:13 /sbin/mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda1
[04:05] <LjL> !paste | boxh
[04:05] <ubotu> boxh: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:05] <tw|sT3d> LjL: im getting prustrated about this =((
[04:05] <Keyseir> That looks like what I may be looking for
[04:05] <LjL> !paste | boxahy
[04:05] <boxahy> it takes over EVERYTHING
[04:05] <ubotu> boxahy: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:05] <qc__> hrm....
[04:05] <Mantice> does beryl run on the latest kernal yet ?
[04:05] <qc__> does micromedia flash work on ubuntu 64?
[04:05] <Keyseir> sethk, dooglus, how do I check to see if that process is working properly now that I know what it is?
[04:05] <LjL> tw|sT3d: if it's a software modem, it won't necessarily be easy to be made to work
[04:06] <dooglus> Keyseir: "sudo strace -p pid" where pid is the process number
[04:06] <LordTureis> qc__: yes, macromedia flash is now "Adobe Flash"
[04:06] <dooglus> Keyseir: the process numbr is the number in column 2 when you "ps -ef"
[04:06] <sethk> Keyseir, if the disk has an activity light, and it's flashing, it's very likely working.  strace will show the system calls.  if strace just sits there not spitting anything out, that's bad
[04:06] <LjL> boxahy: can you remove it with a "dpkg -r vmware-player"?
[04:06] <rBlong2us> the thing is that I don't see synaptic on the menus
[04:06] <sethk> Keyseir, you should see ioctl calls frequently.
[04:06] <qc__> LordTureis,  well - i downloaded and installed flash from ubuntuguide site... and i can load certan flash pages, but others just crash
[04:06] <dummyuno> folks anyone can give a tip for ati driver in edgy?
[04:06] <LjL> rBlong2us, System / Administration
[04:06] <sethk> rBlong2us, so what?  run it from a command line, or with alt-f2
[04:07] <tw|sT3d> LjL: what the diff. bet software modem from hardware modem? in a newbie point of view?
[04:07] <LordTureis> qc: while version 7 is available through synaptic, you can download a beta of version 9 from Adobe Labs: labs.adobe.com/
[04:07] <kronoman> question : in ubuntu 6.06 what sound system by default is used ? alsa ? esd ? oss ?
[04:07] <Mantice> Man the Gaim sounds are low quality.
[04:07] <Keyseir> sethk, how do I watch for ioctl calls?
[04:07] <dummyuno> qc__: you should be reporting that to Adobe over at http://labs.adobe.com
[04:07] <dooglus> kronoman: esd
[04:07] <daviddixon> anyone else having a problem updating universe?
[04:07] <kronoman> thanks
[04:07] <LjL> tw|sT3d, the page explains that shortly in the second paragraph.
[04:07] <thor> Mantice: the gaim sounds for windows are much better...I copied them to linux
[04:07] <dummyuno> kronoman: from what I can tell here is alsa
[04:07] <Mantice> Strange huh.
[04:08] <dooglus> tw|sT3d: briefly, hardware modems work in linux, software modems don't...
[04:08] <kronoman> should be a combination of alsa + esd ?
[04:08] <dummyuno> me talking from what I see in my laptop
[04:08] <Mantice> My download rate is more constant in linux.
[04:08] <rBlong2us> ok got synaptics
[04:08] <LordTureis> qc: while it is a _BETA_, it is pretty stable.        [04:08] <Keyseir> dooglus, sethk, that strace -p $pid is certainly spitting out a lot of data  continuously
[04:08] <Boelcke> Anyone mind helping me with an odd DHCP question?
[04:09] <Keyseir> !ubotu strace
[04:09] <ubotu> strace: A system call tracer. In component main, is standard. Version 4.5.14-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 92 kB, installed size 248 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm armeb hppa i386 ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc ppc64 s390 s390x sh sparc)
[04:09] <Juan> anyone knows of a mp3 tagging program that works with freedb2?
[04:09] <Vaske_Car> Is there alos Limrwire for Ubuntu?
[04:09] <Mantice> Any one know if beryl works in the new kernal update ?
[04:09] <sethk> Keyseir, that's what you should be seeing.
[04:09] <Vaske_Car> Limewire*
[04:09] <LjL> !limewire | Vaske_Car
[04:09] <hockyhair> how do i change the setting in gnome so i can read view jap text alright in win it's regional settings
[04:09] <ubotu> Vaske_Car: limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[04:09] <Keyseir> sethk, cool
[04:09] <fildo> hey anyone here have a sucessful scsci or raid setup on ubuntu
[04:09] <tw|sT3d> if im using a US robotics modem connected via PCI?? and i buy my comp after 2000?? so im using a software modem??
[04:09] <LjL> LordTureis: Ubuntu doesn't get new versions of packages once it's released
[04:09] <natu`> Having a problem keeping my settings the same for each time I login. The first time it works fine (lag-free) after a fresh wipe of the GNOME desktop, then the next time I log in, the settings are changed and it's sluggish. Any suggestions? Or would using KDE work more efficiently?
[04:10] <LjL> tw|sT3d: likely
[04:10] <thor> Vaske_Car: frostwire is a free limewire equivalent
[04:10] <Vaske_Car> ok
[04:10] <dooglus> Keyseir: that means it's doing something.  whether or not it's attempting to do the same thing over and over depends on what it's spitting out.  hit control-c then pastebin a large chunk of the output
[04:10] <Keyseir> sethk, I wish this "Format" GUI showed an estimated time till completion. Ar
[04:10] <Vaske_Car> what is the best for download Trance Music?
[04:10] <tw|sT3d> LjL: is that a very bad news?
[04:10] <sethk> natu`, without knowing why it's happening, it isn't really possible to say whether kde would be better.  trying it would be a nice data point for figuring out the problem.
[04:10] <mushtaq> hi is there any linux application to connect a scanner (hpscanjet) to ubuntu ?
[04:10] <sethk> Keyseir, it would be completely inaccurate, even if it did.
[04:10] <rBlong2us> how do I change the framebuffer driver?
[04:10] <dummyuno> tw|sT3d: I would bet it's software
[04:10] <sethk> Keyseir, you can, actually, increase the verbosity at the command line, but I guess you're not at the command line.
[04:11] <rBlong2us> where is it located?
[04:11] <LjL> tw|sT3d: yes, but i don't know how well/badly US robotics modems are supported specifically
[04:11] <rBlong2us> I need a specific one
[04:11] <hockyhair> sethk: do you know where the equiv of windows regional settings is in gnome?
[04:11] <mushtaq> hi is there any linux application to connect a scanner (hpscanjet) to ubuntu ? i mean the frontend for the user
[04:11] <hockyhair> im looking to enable viewing of japanese text
[04:11] <sethk> hockyhair, sorry, I'm a kde user.  someone else will know.
[04:11] <hockyhair> where is it in kde
[04:11] <Keyseir> dooglus, "root      6453  6452  0 21:25 pts/0    00:00:15 /sbin/mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda1" the second column you were referring to is the one that holds "6453" right?
[04:11] <dooglus> Keyseir: yessir
[04:12] <Vaske_Car> what is Frostwire package name?
[04:12] <tw|sT3d> LjL: how about motorola modems??? i also have that one? which ir better to used u lessen the problem
[04:12] <dooglus> Keyseir: the 3rd column (6452) is the process ID of the parent of that process - the one who started it - ie. the format gui, probably
[04:12] <Juan> anyone knows of a mp3 tagging program that works with freedb2?
[04:12] <rBlong2us> does any one how to change the framebuffer driver in Ubunut?
[04:12] <Flannel> !frostwire | Vaske_Car
[04:12] <ubotu> Vaske_Car: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[04:12] <dummyuno> fellas, anyone can give it a hint on a known working ati driver in edgy aka 6.10
[04:12] <LjL> tw|sT3d, i don't know. if it's external, it's probably not a software modem.
[04:12] <coolpaul900> I am having a wierd page almost apear when I log out or after I boot up...Also the splash does not work...instead it just has a blinking _
[04:12] <Mantice> Once I install Beryl how to I get running ?
[04:12] <LjL> !beryl | Mantice
[04:12] <ubotu> Mantice: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/  -  Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl.
[04:13] <Keyseir> dooglus, I had closed the first strace window, ran it again
[04:13] <Keyseir> dooglus, "sudo strace -p 6453
[04:13] <Keyseir> Process 6453 attached - interrupt to quit
[04:13] <Keyseir> "
[04:13] <tw|sT3d> bout of them are internals modems connected to PCI
[04:13] <Keyseir> dooglus, this time it isn't spitting anything out
[04:13] <dooglus> Keyseir: use a pastebin
[04:13] <rBlong2us> is there a way to change the framebuffer in the kernel with ubuntu? Please I have a maad flickering C
[04:13] <rBlong2us> LCD
[04:13] <dooglus> Keyseir: that's odd.  nothing at all?
[04:13] <LjL> tw|sT3d, i've got an internal modem that's not a software modem, but that's from 1997
[04:13] <tw|sT3d> LjL: thanks for answering my noobs question
[04:13] <Keyseir> dooglus, not after what I stated.
[04:13] <Keyseir> dooglus, the HD changed light patterns too
[04:13] <coolpaul900> I am having a wierd page almost apear when I log out or after I boot up...Also the splash does not work...instead it just has a blinking _
[04:13] <natu`> sethk: Was condering KDE since Gnome was giving me such a hassle. But if someone had an idea as to why my settings kept changing, and why it slowed the system down on a second login... then I'd keep gnome
[04:14] <tw|sT3d> LjL: i just hope i can figure this thing out
[04:14] <dummyuno> coolpaul900: you mean yo don't get to the desktop?
[04:14] <Mantice> !Audacious
[04:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Audacious - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:14] <coolpaul900> I do but it just looks weird at those points
[04:14] <rBlong2us> !kernel
[04:14] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[04:14] <fildo> !raid
[04:14] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[04:14] <dooglus> Keyseir: you used control-c to get out of the previous strace, right?
[04:14] <tw|sT3d> LjL: btw im sharing my cds to my frnds.. here in the philppines.. i think that the only help i can give u in return
[04:14] <Juan> anyone knows of a mp3 tagging program that works with freedb2?
[04:15] <Mantice> Can some one help me Audacious_
[04:15] <coolpaul900> also I have just upgraded to edgy
[04:15] <Keyseir> dooglus, no... I closed the terminal window to get out of the previous strace.
[04:15] <Mantice> can some one help me install Audacious?
[04:15] <LordTureis> do u mean audacity?
[04:15] <Keyseir> dooglus Was that bad?
[04:15] <Mantice> http://audacious-media-player.org
[04:15] <dooglus> Keyseir: hmm.  I wonder whether that left the strace running.  do a "sudo pkill -INT strace"
[04:15] <ricard1> hello, sound from mozilla (applications as youtube or google video suddenly stopped working. I have rebooted the computer check the volume levels, but nothing seem to work. Can anyone give me a hand, please. Thank you!
[04:15] <dummyuno> coolpaul900: I saw a lot of blank screen when I updated, so you should be happy if you get a desktop, I didn't for way to long
[04:16] <coolpaul900> How can I fix it?
[04:16] <coolpaul900> So I can see the splash?
[04:16] <coolpaul900> Also it does not show the trash can on the desktop
[04:16] <rBlong2us> if I wanna change the frambuffer driver on the kernel do I have to make a custom made kernel?
[04:17] <dummyuno> not sure, I guess theres no that icon on edgy
[04:17] <dummyuno> I see a trashbin on the right lower corner
[04:17] <LordTureis> Mantice: there seems to be something at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202430  However, the article is from June.  It may not work on Edgy, but it will almost certainly work on Dapper.
[04:17] <coolpaul900> same here
[04:17] <dummyuno> next to the workspace chooser
[04:17] <coolpaul900> ya
[04:18] <Keyseir> dooglus, Heh. Looks like the format finished
[04:18] <roler> What program/package will convert a .m4a to .ogg or .mp3 ?
[04:18] <Keyseir> dooglus, Process ended.
[04:18] <fildo> !scsi
[04:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about scsi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:18] <coolpaul900> so can I make it so that weird screen does not pop up?
[04:18] <Mantice> Thanks LordTureis
[04:18] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> You there Kingsqueak
[04:18] <dummyuno> I'm looking for same answer here
[04:18] <coolpaul900> hmm
[04:18] <Mantice> How come I get this error message when trying to install Azureus ?
[04:18] <Mantice> How come I get this ? azureus: Depends: liblog4j1.2-java  but it is not installable Depends: libswt3.1-gtk-java but it is not going to be installed
[04:19] <dummyuno> what video card you've got?
[04:19] <rBlong2us> !framebuffer
[04:19] <ubotu> If you would like information on framebuffers, please visit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[04:19] <coolpaul900> me?
[04:19] <dooglus> Keyseir: maybe.  or maybe strace messed it up
[04:19] <LordTureis> !!!!Mantice:  Check the later pages of the thread.  There seem to be packages for edgy.
[04:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Mantice:  Check the later pages of the thread.  There seem to be packages for edgy. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:19] <dooglus> Keyseir: I guess attempting to mount the new partition will tell you which of the 2 it was
[04:19] <Keyseir> dooglus I guess I'm about to find out.
[04:19] <Vaske_Car> I installed Frostwire but when I click on it it does not start. ????
[04:19] <kronoman> for installing netbeans, should I use synaptic ? or I proceed "by hand" ?
[04:19] <Mantice> I dont have edgy :)
[04:19] <dummyuno> rBlong2us: you might give it a shoot to a xorg reconfig
[04:19] <LordTureis> oh. ok.  excellent.
[04:20] <kronoman> Vaske_Car: do you have Java runtime environment installed ? afaik Frostwire is done in java
[04:20] <tich> i just did a fresh install of edgy and i can't connect to the wireless network-- any suggestions?
[04:20] <dummyuno> Mantice: youre missing some packages
[04:20] <Keyseir> dooglus oh crap
[04:20] <LordTureis> can't help you with the azureus thing though.  Sry
[04:20] <Vaske_Car> kronoman, I am not sure. How do I install java?
[04:20] <Keyseir> dooglus, I think I had the new drive take the /home place and I think i'd already been using that
[04:21] <Keyseir> dooglus, now it looks like the GUI for the filesystem doesn't know where to look
[04:21] <mushtaq> hi is there a way to use hp scanjet on dapper ?
[04:21] <rBlong2us> dummyuno: how may I disable dri?
[04:21] <Mantice> dummyuno how to I fix this ?
[04:21] <kronoman> Vaske_Car: first, check if you have java installed, in a console type : java -version , to see if you have Java installed
[04:21] <rBlong2us> I just wanna disable it
[04:22] <Keyseir> dooglus, Whenever I try to open a file through the GUI it says "Details: Failed to change to directory '/home/andrew' (No such file or directory)
[04:22] <mushtaq> i have resource pc which have the printers and scanners and i want to transfer from windows to linux ? is it possible ?
[04:22] <Mantice> Dummyuno those packages dont appear on my list.
[04:22] <Vaske_Car> kronoman, java version "1.5.0_08"
[04:22] <tich> i installed network manager, cleaned up /etc/network/interfaces but wireless options do not appear.
[04:22] <thor> anyone know how to change the default url handler in xchat from konqueror back to firefox?
[04:22] <tich> what should i do?
[04:22] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> tich - same.
[04:22] <Keyseir> dooglus, you there?
[04:23] <tich> LGKeiz-Ubuntu, did it work with dapper?
[04:23] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> tich: Probably your wireless card, Im trying to get ahold of kingsqueak so I can get it fixed
[04:23] <dooglus> Keyseir: yes, I've been playing with mkfs.ext3, trying to see why it would take so long
[04:23] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> tich: nop
[04:23] <LordTureis> mushtaq: what kind of hp scanjet?
[04:23] <kronoman> Vaske_Car: ok, you have java installed
[04:23] <jStefan> thor, you could add more options, Settings, Advamced, URL Handlers
[04:23] <Keyseir> dooglus, I had already been using /home for my first disk (the one ubuntu is installed on) and I must have had the new one take /home
[04:23] <mushtaq> hp scanjet G7116
[04:23] <tich> LGKeiz-Ubuntu, mine worked when dapper was installed
[04:23] <kronoman> Vaske_Car: try to start frostwire from command line to see if you get any error message
[04:24] <Keyseir> dooglus, now my gui can't find any files it needs because directories don't exist
[04:24] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> tich: ;__;
[04:24] <dooglus> Keyseir: you had a /home before, and you made a new one on a new partition?
[04:24] <Keyseir> dooglus, if what used to be in /home is nolonger there, where is it? I didn't delete the old disk..
[04:24] <Keyseir> dooglus I think so.
[04:24] <stylus> how can i get an identd working?
[04:24] <dooglus> Keyseir: I guess you've mounted the new /home partition over the old /home directory
[04:24] <dooglus> Keyseir: "cd /; sudo umount /home"
[04:24] <Keyseir> dooglus, How do I unmount it the new one?
[04:24] <Keyseir> dooglus k
[04:25] <Vaske_Car> kronoman, here is the answer http://<IP_ADDRESS>/search?q=cache:WkrE_d4I9r4J:ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php%3Ft%3D286270+frostwire+ubuntu&hl=en&gl=ca&ct=clnk&cd=1
[04:25] <dummyuno> Mantice: if you need Java you'd probably would need to get it from universe
[04:25] <Keyseir> dooglus, that did it
[04:25] <dummyuno> !universe
[04:25] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[04:25] <thor> jStefan: that will do, but I sure would like to restore the default to firefox. It worked fine until I installed kde in ubuntu
[04:25] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Anyone up to helping with ndiswrapper?
[04:25] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> >.>
[04:25] <Keyseir> dooglus is there an easy way to change where the second disk mounts?
[04:25] <mushtaq> LordTureis, it is C7716a
[04:26] <roler> how can I convert an mpeg4 (m4a) file to an .ogg or .mp3?
[04:26] <stylus> can someone help me setup gidentd?
[04:26] <dooglus> Keyseir: edit /etc/fstab
[04:26] <LordTureis> sry mushtaq.  I'm not finding anything.  I'm still looking though.
[04:27] <dooglus> Keyseir: or, if you just want to change it temporarily, you could: "sudo mkdir /home2; sudo mount /dev/hda-whatever /home2"
[04:27] <eaglehawk> anyone who can help me with knetworkmanager
[04:27] <Mantice> I thought java was installed automaticly
[04:27] <dooglus> Keyseir: then move all your /home files into /home2 (the new disk), then next time you boot, the new disk will be back on /home
[04:27] <dummyuno> rBlong2us: I'm investigating in LCD's and laptop video cards myself, so... This might help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=107908
[04:27] <jordan_> !anyone | eaglehawk
[04:27] <ubotu> eaglehawk: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:27] <tich> is wireless issues a big problem with edgy?
[04:28] <Keyseir> dooglus, I think I can change the mount point path easily with the gui
[04:28] <Keyseir> dooglus, I'll just choose a new name that isn't home
[04:28] <jordan_> tich: From what I hear, ndis wrapper is broken
[04:28] <dooglus> Keyseir: I don't know the gui, but you can change the mount point by editing /etc/fstab
[04:28] <dummyuno> Mantice: java is not a "free" technology
[04:28] <dummyuno> !java
[04:28] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[04:29] <Keyseir> dooglus, I appreciate all your help.
[04:29] <dummyuno> !ati
[04:29] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:29] <dooglus> Keyseir: no problem
[04:30] <mushtaq> LordTureis, if that scanner is in list then what ? what is the next step i mean
[04:30] <mushtaq> what i need to do ?
[04:30] <jordan_> Is there an EFI compatable LiveCD of any sort?
[04:30] <mushtaq> do i need to do something with the kernel something LordTureis  ?
[04:31] <LordTureis> oh.  Sry.  I don't know.  What do you mean 'in the list?' what list?
[04:31] <eaglehawk> can somebody help me with knetworkmanager...I have installed it but it does not give me options to adjust wireless settings
[04:31] <dooglus> eaglehawk: maybe in #kubuntu they'd know more?
[04:31] <st4hl> hi, how do i add new user to my ubuntu server?
[04:31] <dooglus> st4hl: "sudo adduser"
[04:32] <st4hl> and deluser?
[04:32] <dooglus> st4hl: you guessed it :)
[04:32] <st4hl> ty ;)
[04:32] <LaserLine> I'm trying to create a key for launchpad using gpg --send-key key-id (key-id = xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx <-my key) but when I do that it says gpg: "xxxx" not a key ID: skipping
[04:32] <dooglus> st4hl: see the man page if you want to remove his files as well (home dir, or all)
[04:32] <st4hl> and how do i see which groups user belongs to?
[04:32] <st4hl> nod, thank you again =)
[04:33] <LordTureis> mushtaq: What do you mean 'in the list?' what list?
[04:33] <Mantice> when I try to install java 'Java Web Start 1.4' is not available in any software channel.
[04:33] <dooglus> st4hl: I log in as them and type "groups"
[04:34] <dooglus> st4hl: or "grep dooglus /etc/group"
[04:34] <jordan_> Mantice: You need to enable the multiverse repository.
[04:34] <st4hl> cool, thanks alot =)
[04:34] <st4hl> is there a fast way to add identical user?
[04:34] <LordTureis> I'm sorry I couldn't be of more help, but I've got to go.
[04:34] <st4hl> just with a different name/pwd, but same groups
[04:35] <dooglus> st4hl: adduser has lots of options.  see "man adduser"
[04:35] <kokey> How can I install edgy in text mode with th live cd?
[04:35] <Mantice> jordan_ I deleted every thing then I added every thing again.
[04:35] <corey> anyone here use enlightenment?
[04:35] <Mantice> The 4 ubuntu ones have multiverse ticked
[04:35] <dooglus> st4hl: if you have X then 'user-admin' lets you do it the gui way
[04:36] <kronoman> how I install netbeans ? by hand ? or there is a repository for it ?
[04:36] <st4hl> can i add users to /etc/group manually?
[04:36] <CientificoLoco> how can I write in japanese on Firefox, OpenOffice and messenger?
[04:36] <st4hl> i would, but i dont have x
[04:36] <dooglus> st4hl: better not to.  "sudo adduser st4hl admin" will add st4hl to the admin group
[04:37] <dooglus> st4hl: so you can loop that: for group in $(groups); do sudo adduser st4hl $group; done
[04:37] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> >.>
[04:38] <st4hl> lol, excellent, thank you so much =)
[04:38] <jordan_> Mantice: I can install it on my machine, could you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list just to be sure ?
[04:38] <dooglus> st4hl: that'll add the new 'st4hl' user to each group that you're in
[04:38] <CientificoLoco> how can I write in japanese on Firefox, OpenOffice and messenger?
[04:38] <Mantice> ok
[04:38] <Mantice> !pastebin
[04:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:39] <st4hl> nodnod, that's pretty much what i need =)
[04:39] <st4hl> thanks again
[04:40] <Mantice> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30584/
[04:41] <Hansin321> Can anyone tell me the package I need to compile source packages?  I am hoping it is a single package I can apt-get (and it will get all its dependencies).  Or is this installed by default on Edge?  Thanks in advance.
[04:41] <Hansin321> More clear: compile osurce code --> configure, make, make install stuff.  Thanks.
[04:41] <bimberi> Hansin321: build-essential
[04:42] <seth_|> exit
[04:42] <Hansin321> bimberi: Thanks !!
[04:42] <seth_|> exit
[04:42] <bimberi> Hansin321: np :)
[04:42] <corey> has anyone here used ready to program with java on windows and know if there is a compiler for linux that does hsa boilerplates
[04:43] <jazzrocker> do most USB hard drives work OTB with Ubuntu?
[04:43] <crimsun> jazzrocker: many, yes.
[04:43] <jazzrocker> i'm looking to get a bigger HD for my music libarary
[04:43] <jazzrocker> crimsun, is there any page like the linux printers page but for USB hard drives?
[04:43] <Mantice> jord
[04:43] <jazzrocker> e.g. where can i find out which chipsets/hardware/brands will and won't work?
[04:43] <Mantice> jordan_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30584/
[04:44] <CientificoLoco> how can I write in japanese on Firefox, OpenOffice and messenger?
[04:44] <crimsun> jazzrocker: the 'supported usb devices' page that's "googlable"
[04:44] <crimsun> CientificoLoco: use scim
[04:44] <thevenin_> anyone know how i could setup ubuntu server dapper drake to be able to be turned on from the network
[04:44] <DeltaF> Does anyone know about a good GUI for modifying LVM partitions?
[04:44] <DeltaF> Perhaps a plugin for gparted?
[04:44] <crimsun> thevenin_: clarify, please?
[04:45] <thevenin_> i want wake-on-lan on both of my servers, what would i haft to edit to get it to accept this
[04:45] <DeltaF> thevenin_: Do you mean like Wake On Lan??
[04:45] <DeltaF> WOL is BIOS isn't it?
[04:45] <thevenin_> oh shit i do belive it is, welp thank you
[04:45] <DeltaF> sure ;)
[04:45] <DeltaF> Anyone with ideas on LVM GUI?
[04:46] <jazzrocker> crimsun, ok
[04:46] <sean> Hey guys
[04:46] <CientificoLoco> crimsun, what?
[04:47] <CientificoLoco> crimsun, how can I use it
[04:47] <crimsun> CientificoLoco: see the various wiki pages (just search)
[04:47] <bruenig> !firefox
[04:47] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[04:48] <sean> Hey, I searched the ubuntu site..what exactly does apt-get autoremove do?
[04:48] <daemoey> palski you here?
[04:48] <jStefan> sean, you know i just noticed the lack of documentation too
[04:48] <jazzrocker> crimsun, google for "ubuntu supported usb devices" doesn't turn up anything very useful
[04:48] <Mantice> Could some one help me fix my Repositories ?
[04:48] <jStefan> sean, neither apt-get --help nor man apt-get documents it
[04:48] <mushtaq> hi is it possible that anyone can help me use my scanner on linux
[04:48] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Mantice, what's the problem?
[04:49] <Mantice> I want to install Azureus and its complaning that I dont hava java.
[04:49] <Mantice> So I tryed to install java but its saying it cant find it.
[04:49] <jStefan> !java | Mantice
[04:49] <sean> jStefan, yeah... I just ran autoremove and it cleared 700mb but my system seems to run fine
[04:49] <mushtaq> i need a simple application to run my scanner for end use
[04:49] <ubotu> Mantice: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[04:49] <mushtaq> user
[04:49] <crimsun> jazzrocker: not sure how you could miss linux-usb.org
[04:49] <Mantice> I did
[04:49] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Mantice, did you enable extra repositories?
[04:49] <mushtaq> they were using hp application now i want to use linux box for this purpose is it possible ?
[04:50] <daemoey> Palski: The problem with bluefish can be solved by first opening any random file. After that it will let you save a file without crashing
[04:50] <Mantice> How do I do that.
[04:50] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Mantice, system, administration, software properties, check all the boxes.....
[04:50] <daemoey> Palski: Just google a bit and theres a few other threads that talk about the issue. Its known by "people"
[04:50] <Max222-sweden> I can ping to a vpn server but i can not surf to a server in that network. But i can ping. Anybody has this problem?
[04:50] <jazzrocker> crimsun, i am, seeing as it doesn't occur here: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ubuntu+supported+usb+devices&btnG=Google+Search
[04:50] <jStefan> sean, autoremove removes packages that were installed automatically (as other package dependecies) and are no longer needed. But, it requires inspection of what it plans to do, so it doesn't remove something important
[04:51] <Mantice> I did.
[04:51] <sean> jStefan, Thanks :)
[04:51] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Mantice, now try installing java
[04:52] <crimsun> jazzrocker: go to the address I gave you, then click on "Working devices list"
[04:52] <jazzrocker> crimsun, you gave me an address?
[04:52] <Mantice> I removed every thing and I added them all again with the tick boxes
[04:52] <jazzrocker> crimsun, oh, linux-usb.org lol, k
[04:53] <jazzrocker> crimsun, already went there
[04:53] <jazzrocker> crimsun, hahah, actually i found that page already lol, didn't know it was related to linux-usb.org :)
[04:53] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Mantice, sudo aptitude update, then sudo aptitude install sun-java5-jre
[04:53] <crimsun> jazzrocker: my advice is simply to try both 6.06.1 and 6.10 desktop cds
[04:53] <dooglus> sean: this is known: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/59555
[04:53] <rBlong2us> hi for the life of me how can I disable DRI
[04:54] <Mantice> 'sun-java5-bin' is not available in any software channel
[04:54] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Mantice, try search aptitude java, and find the package you need that way
[04:54] <Jewfro-Macabbi> I mean aptitude search java
[04:54] <dooglus> !info sun-java5-bin
[04:54] <ubotu> sun-java5-bin: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 21811 kB, installed size 65084 kB
[04:55] <Mantice> it says unknown comand.
[04:55] <zcat[1] > !ntfs
[04:55] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[04:55] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Mantice, to which?
[04:55] <Mantice> sudo aptitude update, then sudo aptitude install sun-java5-jre
[04:55] <Mantice> Hold on
[04:55] <Mantice> I screwd up :)
[04:56] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Mantice, then you got a typo, "sudo aptitude update", "sudo aptitude install sun-java5-jre"
[04:56] <Mantice> Yeah I know.
[04:56] <ajax4> Hi everyone. Can someone tell me how to ban a certain IP from connecting to me?
[04:56] <CientificoLoco> crimsun, If I install the packes for japanese I will wirete in japanes.??
[04:56] <rBlong2us> how can I disable DRI with ubuntu, please someone
[04:56] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Mantice, sorry, "sudo aptitude install sun-java5-bin"
[04:56] <rBlong2us> I have a jerky screen highly annoying
[04:57] <zcat[1] > !botsnack
[04:57] <ubotu> Yum!
[04:57] <zcat[1] > !help
[04:57] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl  -  Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:57] <rBlong2us> I need to disable DRI someone :-(
[04:58] <Mantice> Jewfro-Macbbi I think I know why none of this was working.........
[04:58] <dooglus> rBlong2us: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[04:58] <Mantice> The following packages have been kept back:
[04:58] <Mantice>   linux-386
[04:58] <crimsun> CientificoLoco: the wiki(s) outline that in far more detail than I can explain.
[04:58] <rBlong2us> dooglus: aright
[04:58] <Mantice> Thats the update I did not update.
[04:58] <dooglus> rBlong2us: then restart xorg
[04:58] <Mantice> Because some one told me I could not use beryl with the new kernal.
[04:58] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Mantice, not sure that's related actually.
[04:59] <jStefan> Mantice, do you have "restricted" in your repos?
[04:59] <Jordan_U> jStefan: Yes, he does http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30584/
[04:59] <caseyjunior> yay
[04:59] <Mantice> The 4 I have all say restricted copywrite.
[04:59] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Mantice, is azureus install already, and how, from repository, .deb, source?
[05:00] <maxflax> Im trying to install a TV card into ubuntu.. a Twinhan Mantis DVB-T card.. anyone have any pointer to give about this! I haven't got a foggiest Idea what to do now..
[05:00] <caseyjunior> MAXFLAX U CANT INSTALL A TV CARD IN JEWBUNTOO
[05:00] <caseyjunior> JEWBUNTOO DOESN'T SUPPORT ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY.
[05:00] <teenprogrammer> hi
[05:00] <jStefan> !caps | caseyjunior
[05:00] <ubotu> caseyjunior: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT!  Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[05:01] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Mantice, is azureus installed already?
[05:01] <edgar> someone speaks spanish?
[05:01] <Mantice> No.
[05:01] <Madpilot> !es
[05:01] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:01] <jStefan> Madpilot, thx
[05:01] <jStefan> !es > edgar
[05:01] <boxahy> http://arch.kimag.es/share/56135400.png man i love my connection
[05:01] <Mantice> Synamtic would not let me install it because it couldent find java.
[05:01] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Mantice, okay, just try "sudo aptitude install azureus"
[05:02] <boxahy> un burro sabe mas que tu
[05:02] <BHSPitLappy> teenprogrammer, install ssh via apt, and then you're good
[05:02] <Madpilot> jStefan, just for next time, you don't need to address the ops tell to anyone, just hit it
[05:02] <squeee> Is it possible to use docx in linux yet?
[05:02] <teenprogrammer> um
[05:02] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Mantice, and check again you have all the extra repositories enabled
[05:02] <teenprogrammer> apt?
[05:02] <jStefan> Madpilot, avoids the inevitable "Who?" if the op was AFK
[05:03] <dooglus> teenprogrammer: "sudo apt-get install ssh"
[05:03] <jStefan> i'll keep note
[05:03] <maxflax> Madpilot, do u now how to get a tv card working and what is needed?
[05:03] <zcat[1] > !ntfs
[05:03] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[05:03] <teenprogrammer> k
[05:03] <teenprogrammer> thanks
[05:03] <Madpilot> maxflax, no idea, sorry.
[05:03] <zcat[1] > !rt2500
[05:03] <ubotu> rt2500: configuration tool for wireless RT2500 network cards. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1.0+cvs20060620-3 (edgy), package size 106 kB, installed size 404 kB
[05:03] <Madpilot> jStefan, good point, actually, on the use of the ops tell
[05:03] <CITguy> Does anybody know how I might go about printing a list of the available packages in the Synaptic package manager?
[05:04] <dooglus> teenprogrammer: that will install both openssh-client and openssh-server.  if you don't want both, pick the one you want.
[05:04] <Mantice> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "azureus"
[05:04] <dooglus> !info azureus
[05:04] <ubotu> azureus: BitTorrent client. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 6922 kB, installed size 7780 kB
[05:04] <dooglus> it's in universe.
[05:04] <Madpilot> CITguy, that'd be a pretty long list, there are something over 17,000 packages in the whole set of repos
[05:04] <jStefan> Madpilot, even though you still have to check, and not take my word for it. but it helps as in "who/what" you have to check for
[05:05] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Mantice, you need to check that you have all repositories enabled again
[05:05] <CITguy> I don't care. Where could I do it.
[05:05] <zcat[1] > !wireless
[05:05] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:05] <jStefan> Mantice, remember to "sudo apt-get update" after editing sources.list
[05:05] <bunny> hi ne one of u used OSSIM on ubuntu
[05:06] <dhuv> hello all
[05:06] <eaglehawk> can somebody help me with knetworkmanager...I have installed it but it does not give me options to adjust wireless settings
[05:06] <dhuv> I am having issues with booting while the miniPCI wireless card is installed, I keep getting "failed to start the card", I have seen references to this bug and suggestions to add irqpoll to the grub boot options but this has not helped me
[05:06] <dooglus> CITguy: running "apt-cache search ." will list all the available packages.
[05:06] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Mantice, you can also edit your repository list manually, see here: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/sources
[05:06] <dhuv> I think the problem might be that the ipw2100 firmware is not on the system, I tried to put the files in /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware/ but this obviously is not working, does anybody know where exactly it belongs
[05:07] <dooglus> CITguy: it prints 20,214 lines here
[05:07] <CITguy> thx dooglus
[05:07] <dooglus> poor trees.  :(
[05:07] <Mantice> Its downloading a whole bunch of files...
[05:08] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Mantice, more specific please?
[05:08] <Mantice> Downloading package infomation.
[05:08] <NeoEcoS> hello, a quick question witch brand should i use to get 4 gb ram working ?
[05:08] <NeoEcoS> bigiron ?
[05:08] <Jewfro-Macabbi> ah, then try installing again
[05:08] <bunny> can ne one help me regarding ossim on ubuntu
[05:09] <teenprogrammer> so i just installed SSH
[05:09] <teenprogrammer> should i be able to ssh to the server now?
[05:09] <teenprogrammer> or how do i set it up?
[05:09] <Lava_Croft> oh yeah
[05:09] <Lava_Croft> n--buntu
[05:09] <roler> Can I convert an mpeg4 audio file to ogg?
[05:09] <natu`> Where can I check to see if my GNOME settings are automatically being saved on logout?
[05:10] <Mantice> It worked. Its installing now.
[05:11] <Mantice> Jewfor-Macabbi: Thanks for that.
[05:11] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Mantice, you are welcome
[05:14] <dooglus> teenprogrammer: it should just work
[05:14] <dooglus> teenprogrammer: (I think)
[05:14] <teenprogrammer> um
[05:14] <teenprogrammer> whats the equivalent of windows ipconfig
[05:14] <teenprogrammer> in linux?
[05:14] <teenprogrammer> how do i find its ip address?
[05:14] <crimsun> ifconfig(1)
[05:15] <crimsun> err, ifconfig(8) even
[05:17] <PFA> how do i find out my processor speed/ other hardware specs?
[05:18] <dooglus> PFA: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[05:19] <Healot> PFA: try "Hardware Browser"
[05:19] <PFA> thx dooglus
[05:20] <Pablo> anyone have any luck with swscanner?
[05:21] <nomasteryoda> Pablo, ya
[05:21] <nomasteryoda> i use it
[05:21] <nomasteryoda> works even with my broadcom chip
[05:22] <Pablo> are you running network monitor?
[05:22] <Pablo> can you right click on a ap and associate?
[05:22] <nomasteryoda> ah, well maybe
[05:22] <nomasteryoda> just sec
[05:22] <Pablo> ok
[05:22] <nomasteryoda> you mean the monitor tool in the tray?
[05:22] <nomasteryoda> or the swscanner
[05:23] <Pablo> well it seems the confilict with each other
[05:23] <nomasteryoda> oh
[05:23] <maxflax> anyone running a twinhan card?
[05:23] <nomasteryoda> i've seen some issue with that
[05:23] <Pablo> you seen a solution?
[05:23] <nomasteryoda> i just rightclick the icon and disable the wireless when i'm scanning
[05:23] <Pablo> oh
[05:23] <Lava_Croft> k this chan makes me cry just as ubuntu does
[05:24] <nomasteryoda> then reinable when done doing recon/.
[05:24] <daviddixon> i installed mplayerplug-in for firefox. but i still cant watch streaming video. where is the plugin located so i can copy it to my .mozilla folder.
[05:24] <Pablo> so you do not associate through swscanner?
[05:24] <nomasteryoda> nope
[05:24] <Pablo> you just use it to find ssid's?
[05:24] <Pablo> ok
[05:24] <nomasteryoda> i do it with gnome-network-manager
[05:24] <Pablo> it has the ability to be ur wireless manager
[05:24] <nomasteryoda> in the tray
[05:24] <dusk> what is the fix for googlevideo/youtube no lag?
[05:25] <Pablo> disable ipv6?
[05:25] <nomasteryoda> that might help
[05:25] <nomasteryoda> daviddixon, i use automatix
[05:25] <nomasteryoda> it makes the installation easier
[05:25] <daviddixon> ??
[05:25] <nomasteryoda> !automatix
[05:25] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.
[05:26] <Pablo> lol
[05:26] <daviddixon> hm.. doesnt sound too good
[05:26] <nomasteryoda> i have had no issues ... but then again, i selectively choose my software
[05:26] <nomasteryoda> daviddixon, the guide on the forum is simple to follow too
[05:26] <nomasteryoda> i used to do it that way
[05:26] <daviddixon> i know its installed just need to know where the plugin is located in the root directory so i can copy it to user
[05:27] <nomasteryoda> ok
[05:27] <nomasteryoda> linking is the prefered method
[05:27] <nomasteryoda> ln -s file file
[05:27] <nomasteryoda> symbolic link
[05:27] <nomasteryoda> let me find mine
[05:27] <teenprogrammer> how do i install apache/
[05:28] <daviddixon> right. do you know what it's called so i can search
[05:28] <nomasteryoda> apt-get install apache2?
[05:28] <jStefan> !apache | teenprogrammer
[05:28] <ubotu> teenprogrammer: lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[05:28] <nomasteryoda> sure
[05:28] <nomasteryoda> it works for me...
[05:29] <sethk> teenprogrammer, same way you install anything else.   easiest way is to search for apache in synaptic
[05:29] <teenprogrammer> i am trying to set it up on a server
[05:30] <phab> !save
[05:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about save - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:30] <nomasteryoda> /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[05:30] <teenprogrammer> so i dont have the luxary of a gui
[05:30] <daviddixon> thanks
[05:30] <nomasteryoda> np
[05:30] <|rt|> anyone know what would cause an apache module to not be auto enabled when installed?
[05:30] <sethk> teenprogrammer, that's a misconception
[05:30] <CientificoLoco> How can I write in firefox messenger openoffice ... in Japanese?
[05:31] <jStefan> !info apache2
[05:31] <ubotu> apache2: next generation, scalable, extendable web server. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.55-4ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 35 kB, installed size 80 kB
[05:31] <sethk> teenprogrammer, you can run gui setup programs on the server.  you have to direct the display to an X server, but that can be on any machine
[05:31] <teenprogrammer> ah
[05:31] <|rt|> I've installed php4 and the php4.load and php4.conf are not getting the sym links in the mods-enabled folder
[05:31] <|rt|> libapache-mod-php4 to be exact
[05:31] <sethk> teenprogrammer, X windows is layered properly, which unfortunately windows isn't.  there is a strict separation between display, and program
[05:32] <sethk> teenprogrammer, they can be on the same box, on different boxes.  You can run an X server on a windows box, and display your linux server configuration programs on it.
[05:32] <sethk> teenprogrammer, which can be useful if you don't have a box running X windows.
[05:32] <teenprogrammer> seriously?!?!
[05:32] <teenprogrammer> :O
[05:32] <teenprogrammer> i have a windows box
[05:32] <sethk> teenprogrammer, free X server is part of the cygwin package at www.cygwin.com
[05:32] <teenprogrammer> that would be amazing
[05:32] <CientificoLoco> How can I write in firefox messenger openoffice ... in Japanese?
[05:32] <|rt|> sethk: xming is a good windows xserver
[05:32] <teenprogrammer> wow!!! thanks sethk
[05:32] <sethk> |rt|, haven't used it much.  good performance?
[05:33] <|rt|> sethk: yes..and doesn't have the cygwin dependancy
[05:33] <sethk> teenprogrammer, |rt| is showing you an alternative X server for windows
[05:33] <sethk> teenprogrammer, there are others, but many are not free.  I'll have to try xming.
[05:33] <maxflax> can I modprobe modules with success without having the hardware for it?
[05:34] <teenprogrammer> so i need to install xserver on my ubuntu box right?
[05:34] <teenprogrammer> so windows can use it?
[05:34] <|rt|> teenprogrammer: yes
[05:34] <sethk> teenprogrammer, cygwin is rather large and takes a long time to install.  it has other advantages, though, it gives you good shells, and many other programs.  In fact, running the shell in windows makes it feel unix like, although it isn't terribly deep.
[05:34] <sethk> teenprogrammer, no
[05:34] <sethk> teenprogrammer, you don't have to
[05:34] <teenprogrammer> oh
[05:34] <sethk> teenprogrammer, the server can run X _client_ programs
[05:34] <teenprogrammer> oh
[05:34] <teenprogrammer> ic
[05:35] <sethk> teenprogrammer, then they will display on the X server, which can run anywhere, linux, windows, OSX, etc.
[05:35] <|rt|> teenprogrammer: what I do is ssh to my linux box using putty then with xming run the x programs
[05:35] <roach_> I'm trying to get Beryl installed on Edgy-AMD64, but can't find xserver-xgl for Edgy on AMD64 (as a packaged binary) in any of the repositories I've checked.  Does anyone know of a source I can add?
[05:35] <daviddixon> hm ..copied all the plugins over but still no video?
[05:35] <charles_> surabaya
[05:35] <nomasteryoda> daviddixon, just sec
[05:35] <daviddixon> ok
[05:35] <sethk> |rt|, teenprogrammer I do something very similar, although I use a different ssh program.  same end result.
[05:35] <|rt|> sethk: wouldn't you have a hard time installing X programs without a local x server with is normally a dependancy
[05:35] <TMX> roach: I was going this earlier, try using beryl, Il dig out the walkthrough I was using
[05:35] <sethk> |rt|, no, not really
[05:35] <TMX> 8doing
[05:35] <sethk> |rt|, you can install only client support.  I have two boxes set up that way
[05:35] <paras> channel, If i run vidoes from you tube i can see the video but no sound... need a solution for this
[05:36] <|rt|> sethk: ah...cool
[05:36] <nomasteryoda> daviddixon, what does your about:plugins show?
[05:36] <sethk> |rt|, one mail server, one web server, neither has X installed, but the X client libraries are all you need
[05:36] <nomasteryoda> don't post here
[05:36] <|rt|> sethk: the box i do this to runs mythtv frontend so it has X installed
[05:36] <nomasteryoda> just see what it says
[05:36] <TMX> roach_, http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL
[05:36] <sethk> |rt|, indeed, I didn't say you can't, or you shouldn't, only that it isn't mandatory.
[05:36] <jordan_> paras: Are you using flash 9?
[05:36] <daviddixon> let me check
[05:37] <maxflax> can I modprobe modules with success without having the hardware for it?
[05:37] <maxflax> can I modprobe modules with success without having the hardware for it?
[05:37] <maxflax> can I modprobe modules with success without having the hardware for it?'
[05:37] <sethk> it's nice to have the option.  you can make a very compact server, and not give up the nice user interface
[05:37] <sethk> maxflax, yes
[05:37] <paras> jordan_, i guess no
[05:37] <paras> jordan_, do i need it?
[05:37] <|rt|> is there a ubuntu tool for managing apache modules or are you supposed to just manually set the symlinks?
[05:37] <crimsun> maxflax: depends on the module.
[05:37] <sethk> maxflax, all the probe does is make sure that module symbols are defined
[05:37] <daviddixon> just java and flash
[05:37] <sethk> maxflax, it loads any other modules that might be necessary
[05:37] <CientificoLoco> How can I write in firefox messenger openoffice ... in Japanese?
[05:37] <fluxinator> I recently installed edgy from live cd, and I wanted to know whether or not the root account is supposed to be enabled
[05:37] <maxflax> ok
[05:37] <roach_> TMX, thanks!
[05:37] <sethk> maxflax, now, the module is pretty useless without the hardware, but modprobe doesn't care.
[05:37] <jordan_> paras: Flash 7 has inherent sound problems because it uses OSS instead of ALSA, flash 9 fixes the sound issues.
[05:37] <nomasteryoda> daviddixon, ok, well then they are not installed correctly
[05:37] <TMX> roach_: np :)
[05:38] <daviddixon> right
[05:38] <jordan_> !flash9 | paras
[05:38] <ubotu> paras: Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)  -  Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[05:38] <zenmonk> how do u create a new shell and then how do you switch between shells?
[05:38] <nomasteryoda> what about apt-get install mplayer?
[05:38] <paras> jordan_, ok.
[05:38] <daviddixon> i installed them through apt
[05:38] <nomasteryoda> ok
[05:38] <nomasteryoda> hmmm
[05:38] <|rt|> fluxinator: ubuntu doesn't really come with root enabled out of the box...administration is intended to be done using sudo
[05:38] <nomasteryoda> stock firefox?
[05:38] <paras> ubotu, thanks i will install it right away
[05:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanks i will install it right away - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:38] <nomasteryoda> edgy?
[05:39] <daviddixon> ah its broke
[05:39] <kokey> where can I find info about to install edgy in text mode?
[05:39] <roach_> grr - I just added "deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/ edgy main-edgy main-edgy-amd64" as a source, per the guide.  I see beryl and emerald-themes, but not xserver-xgl...  :(
[05:39] <CientificoLoco> How can I write in firefox messenger openoffice ... in Japanese?
[05:39] <sethk> kokey, not sure, but it is extremely easy.  it's all menu driven.  it's not command line, it uses terminal based display
[05:39] <nomasteryoda> kokey, the alternate cd is used for that purpose
[05:39] <Healot> kokey: the alternate-install CD? wait a sec edgy has alternate-install CD right?
[05:40] <sethk> kokey, all you do is run it and answer the questions.  just as easy as a graphical install.
[05:40] <sethk> Healot, right
[05:40] <sethk> Healot, the alternate cd has text mode install, and oem install
[05:40] <sethk> Healot, for the most recent two versions.  before that, text mode and graphical were on one cd
[05:40] <kokey> sethk, but with the graphical install my lap hangs
[05:40] <fluxinator> |rt|, I know but I am looking through the users and groups and I see root there
[05:40] <zenmonk> how do you switch between multiple shells?
[05:40] <sethk> kokey, indeed, use the text mode install.  I'm just saying you don't need any docs
[05:41] <kokey> si do I need to download other cd?
[05:41] <sethk> kokey, yes
[05:41] <CientificoLoco> How can I write in firefox messenger openoffice ... in Japanese?
[05:41] <nomasteryoda> kokey, what kind of laptop?
[05:41] <daviddixon> nomasteryoda: yeah edgy. says mplayer depends on libdirectfb-9.22 but i have 9.24 installed
[05:41] <tj__> i need a nice giu that i can use for a bash script i am writing, any ideas aside from zenity and dialog?
[05:41] <nomasteryoda> i had issues with a sony
[05:41] <fluxinator> |rt|,  there is root and fluxinator listed as accounts
[05:41] <kokey> nomasteryoda, it's a Dell inspiron 1150
[05:41] <nomasteryoda> oh, that should work fine with the alternate
[05:41] <CientificoLoco> ubuntu.es
[05:41] <CientificoLoco> ubuntu-es?
[05:41] <CientificoLoco> for japan?
[05:41] <sethk> kokey, some dells I've had issues with on graphical install.  others not.  text mode install is no problem
[05:41] <sethk> !es
[05:41] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:42] <crimsun> CientificoLoco: that would be #ubuntu-jp
[05:42] <sethk> CientificoLoco, es, for japan?  they speak spanish in japan now?  :)
[05:42] <fluxinator> !jp
[05:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:42] <fluxinator> hah
[05:42] <Healot> !ime
[05:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ime - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:42] <roach_> doh - never mind!  I didn't have "universe" checked (new/clean Edgy install)
[05:42] <Healot> dang
[05:42] <jrib> Where would be the right location for documentation about /etc/environment?  Specifcally, the use of $LANGUAGE
[05:43] <CientificoLoco> sethk, do you talk spanish?
[05:43] <CientificoLoco> How can I write in firefox messenger openoffice ... in Japanese?
[05:43] <sethk> CientificoLoco, I try, but my spanish needs a lot of work.
[05:43] <Healot> CientificoLoco: install the Japanese language support :0
[05:43] <micros> !x
[05:43] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:43] <CientificoLoco> Healot, but I wanna work whit spanich tittle and jut wanna write japanes
[05:44] <sethk> CientificoLoco, I know what you meant, by the way, you meant the japanese equivalent of the -es for spanish, I just couldn't resist  teasing you about it.
[05:44] <Healot> enabled SCIM or SKIM afterwards, then the configure the keyboard and the IME... kinda like the one you do in Windows
[05:44] <fluxinator> crimsun, I recently installed edgy from live cd, and I wanted to know whether or not the root account is supposed to be enabled
[05:44] <crimsun> !root
[05:44] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:44] <sethk> CientificoLoco, japanese support is available, but I know very little about the double byte and mixed single/double character sets
[05:44] <linlin> what would be the easiest way to download all files from an apache directory list like this http://newsreal.loveturtle.net/NewsReal/64kbps/
[05:44] <crimsun> fluxinator: it has not been so in my exp.
[05:44] <sethk> linlin, wget
[05:44] <fluxinator> crimsun, should I remove the root account
[05:44] <fluxinator> ?
[05:45] <linlin> yes i know but i want to do it automatically
[05:45] <sethk> linlin, script wget.
[05:45] <sethk> linlin, you'll find lots of examples of that
[05:45] <crimsun> fluxinator: I wouldn't, no.
[05:45] <fluxinator> crimsun, is there a way to disable logging in as root
[05:46] <sethk> linlin, there are programs around to keep two web servers in sync, you could use one of those perhaps to accomplish your purpose
[05:46] <CientificoLoco> sethk, ah!
[05:46] <CientificoLoco> :O
[05:46] <sethk> fluxinator, there is a way to set the password in such a way that you can't log in
[05:46] <jpedroza> hello. Can anyone here assist me in setting up a Formac 2010 LCD under Kubuntu-ppc?
[05:46] <sethk> fluxinator, ubuntu does that for one of the install modes, but not for oem install
[05:47] <sethk> jpedroza, does it "look" like a normal vga display?
[05:47] <Hansin321> I liked the thread on running an X-Server on a Windows box, running the clients off the "headless" Linux sever.  When starting a program from the "headless" box (say via PuTTY), how do you direct output to the X-Server running on the Windows box?  Thanks.
[05:47] <jpedroza> not really
[05:47] <sethk> jpedroza, I mean does it use the usual monitor interface?
[05:47] <jpedroza> it is a flat panel
[05:47] <CientificoLoco> How can I write in Japanes on firefox messenger openoffice ... ?
[05:47] <sethk> jpedroza, yes, I know
[05:47] <jpedroza> It is a digital flat panel on a DVI
[05:47] <sagar_> whenever i click a ".desktop" file, gnome gives me errors and says it cant open it..the same goes for image files, even after i add a file type association...is this a gnome-vfs problem or something??
[05:47] <fluxinator> sethk, I installed from live cd, and I see that root is enabled, and has its own unique password
[05:47] <teenprogrammer> does ubuntu have an editable motd?
[05:47] <sethk> jpedroza, ok, so it's a DVI interface
[05:47] <paras> ubotu, it says .. instalation failed
[05:47] <Fireal> does anyone have a link or mind describing how to have Caps Lock on when you log in?
[05:47] <daviddixon> I'm confused about what to do here? i have libdirectfb-9.24 installed yet mplayer wont properly install without 9.22 which doesnt exist?
[05:47] <sethk> jpedroza, you set it up like any other monitor
[05:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about it says .. instalation failed - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:48] <sethk> teenprogrammer, it does, but I forget where.  someone will know.
[05:48] <jpedroza> I have been trying, but the screen is quite red and the images are posterized
[05:48] <nomasteryoda> daviddixon, do you have all the sources added for your version?
[05:48] <paras> ubotu, 8559d7f4432d6a80458fdcd14e8fe2d6  /tmp/flashplugin-nonfree.qkuXNr/flash-player-plugin-<IP_ADDRESS>/libflashplayer.so
[05:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 8559d7f4432d6a80458fdcd14e8fe2d6  /tmp/flashplugin-nonfree.qkuXNr/flash-player-plugin-<IP_ADDRESS>/libflashplayer.so - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:48] <nomasteryoda> like universe, etc.
[05:48] <daviddixon> yep
[05:48] <paras> ubotu, after that line
[05:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about after that line - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:48] <jordan_> paras: ubotu is a bot.
[05:48] <paras> ubotu, ok
[05:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ok - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:48] <nomasteryoda> hehe
[05:48] <teenprogrammer> ubot motd
[05:48] <daviddixon> have every possible source added
[05:48] <fluxinator> sethk is there a reason why this is so?
[05:48] <teenprogrammer> :/
[05:49] <jpedroza> sethk: I have tried quite a lot of settings, but they all are really odd looking
[05:49] <nomasteryoda> daviddixon, well then my solution... is the evil automatix
[05:49] <nomasteryoda> =D
[05:49] <therapy> !motd
[05:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about motd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:49] <daviddixon> can i apt get it?
[05:49] <sethk> fluxinator, the idea that ubuntu doesn't have a root account is utter and complete nonsense.
[05:49] <teenprogrammer> ubot, what is the motd
[05:49] <nomasteryoda> daviddixon, wait
[05:49] <sethk> fluxinator, the amazing thing is that people keep repeating it, as if it were true
[05:49] <therapy> ubotu
[05:49] <nomasteryoda> why not use the mozilla-mplayer?
[05:49] <teenprogrammer> where is the motd ubot
[05:49] <nomasteryoda> it works
[05:49] <nomasteryoda> for firefox too
[05:49] <bimberi> teenprogrammer: /etc/motd
[05:49] <sethk> fluxinator, the root account on ubuntu is exactly like the root account on every other linux and *nix system.
[05:49] <daviddixon> yeah have that installed too
[05:49] <Fireal>  does anyone have a link or mind describing how to have Caps Lock on when you log in?
[05:50] <nomasteryoda> ah, then maybe conflicting with the other one... look into the plugins folder under that /lib subfolder
[05:50] <fluxinator> sethk why does root on my computer have its own password that I have not specified... thats the real point of asking
[05:50] <protocol1> I installed automatix2 and it had everthing i needed for multimedia, java etc
[05:50] <nomasteryoda> leme look
[05:50] <jordan_> fluxinator: To enable a root password run: sudo passwd root
[05:50] <jpedroza> jordan_: I was just going to type that...
[05:50] <sethk> fluxinator, there is an option for setting a password to a value that doesn't match any password you can enter
[05:50] <sethk> fluxinator, it's a method for disabling login
[05:51] <sethk> fluxinator, for the default install, it is used.  for other installs, such as the oem install, you are prompted for the root password
[05:51] <sethk> fluxinator, you can change the root password to a reall one if you like.
[05:51] <fluxinator> sethk in other words, root login has been disabled
[05:52] <alexander> hey everyone
[05:52] <jordan_> fluxinator: In general, the people who care about having a root password know how to enable it.
[05:52] <sethk> fluxinator, right.  the account is normal, but the password has been set with passwd -l
[05:52] <kokey> thanks to all
[05:52] <kokey> bye
[05:52] <fnf> Hi, I'm playing a bit with vmware-player, do you recommend using qemu or vmware server as a host environment for this ?.
[05:52] <fluxinator> jordan_, I was just asking to be on the safe side
[05:53] <fluxinator> thanks sethk
[05:53] <nomasteryoda> daviddixon, i'm using this list ... or here's what I have in mine... the plugin folder... http://pastebin.com/819506
[05:53] <nomasteryoda> totem is there and the plugin
[05:53] <alexander> hey guys, I got a question about ubuntu, is there a way to work with 2 LAN at the same time
[05:53] <alexander> ?
[05:54] <jpedroza> sethk: Now I have a huge screen and have to scroll around by moving the mouse outside the boundaries...
[05:54] <nomasteryoda> alexander, as in bridging them?
[05:54] <nomasteryoda> for a router?
[05:55] <jpedroza> Could this be more of a video card driver than a monitor issue?
[05:55] <CientificoLoco> How can I write in Japanes on firefox messenger openoffice ... ?
[05:55] <fnf> alexander: You need to have two separate network cards for this.
[05:55] <alexander> yep, i got those
[05:55] <daviddixon> i ahve all the mplayer plugins but i think my mplayer is broken
[05:56] <nomasteryoda> apt-get remove mplayer
[05:56] <nomasteryoda> etc... then reinstall it
[05:56] <alexander> how do you address a message to a specific person in this chat? (i am new :( )
[05:56] <nomasteryoda> er, that "etc" means ...
[05:56] <dougsko> anyone know how to get ncurses stuff to display correctly in a screen? ive tried setting the $TERM to rxvt, but no joy
[05:56] <nomasteryoda> =D
[05:56] <powercat> how do I get higher resolution than 1024x768?
[05:56] <bimberi> CientificoLoco: someone asked that previously and was pointed towards "scim"
[05:56] <fnf> alexander: Or setting up a VPN, but this seems to be slightly out of question. Can you play a bit with /etc/network/interfaces ?
[05:56] <crimsun> dougsko: use TERM=vt102 instead.
[05:56] <paras> ubotu, jordan_ flash 9 working by doing manual installation :)
[05:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jordan_ flash 9 working by doing manual installation :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:56] <KakarottoCL> hi!
[05:56] <nomasteryoda> powercat, depends on the video card and monitor
[05:56] <dougsko> crimsun: cool, ill give it a go
[05:56] <paras> ubotu, jordan_ i have sound now
[05:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jordan_ i have sound now - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:57] <nomasteryoda> powercat, and drivers for the video card
[05:57] <powercat> nomasteryoda: nvidia 6800 gt, viewsonic vp171
[05:57] <jrib> Where would be the right location for documentation about /etc/environment?  Specifcally, the use of $LANGUAGE
[05:57] <jpedroza> is there a specific chanel for ppc-kubuntu?
[05:57] <KakarottoCL> please i need help!
[05:57] <Madpilot> jpedroza, there's #kubuntu
[05:57] <bimberi> alexander: type "bim" (without the "s) and hit the tab key
[05:57] <nomasteryoda> !tell powercat about nvidia
[05:57] <jrib> !ask | KakarottoCL
[05:57] <ubotu> KakarottoCL: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:57] <nomasteryoda> !nvidia
[05:57] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:57] <dougsko> crimsun: lol, that just seems to freeze things up
[05:57] <bimberi> !tab | alexander
[05:57] <ubotu> alexander: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[05:58] <crimsun> dougsko: make sure you're not in scroll lock.
[05:58] <nomasteryoda> tab completion rocks
[05:58] <orville> hi,
[05:58] <nomasteryoda> welcome orville
[05:58] <alexander> bimberi, yay! finnaly... lol....
[05:58] <dougsko> crimsun: no, im good there. maybe vt100?
[05:58] <KakarottoCL> thanks.. well i'm currently using ubuntu 6.06 TLS, but when trying to upgrade to 6.10 (with the ISO burned cd) I get an empty screen after the booter load..
[05:58] <orville> can someone here tell me where I put modules I want loaded at startup in ubuntu?
[05:58] <baxter_kylie> Can anyone tell me if it's possible to fake-eject a cd or dvd rom?
[05:59] <bimberi> alexander: :)
[05:59] <jrib> baxter_kylie: what does that mean?
[05:59] <orville> hi nomasteryoda.
[05:59] <jordan_> baxter_kylie: Like unmount it but not eject it?
[05:59] <Magilla> yay! Dapper -> Edgy upgrade 95% successful
[05:59] <Magilla> :D
[05:59] <baxter_kylie> jrib: I want to auto-run some drive speed utilities but they won't run so long as a disc is in a drive. I want to eject the discs without physically ejecting them.
[05:59] <alexander> fnf, but is it possible in theory or no? like the usage of 2 LANs at the same time?
[06:00] <amax> hello all. People, help me please, I unable to find gconf-sharp package, where I can find it? pleaseeee.
[06:00] <baxter_kylie> jordan_: unmount doesn't work.
[06:00] <baxter_kylie> jordan_: they're already unmounted.
[06:00] <teenprogrammer> whats a good email server application to install on my ubuntu server?
[06:00] <dougsko> crimsun: outside of screen, im using rxvt. so im kinda baffled as to why that wouldnt work in screen too
[06:00] <bimberi> teenprogrammer: dovecot
[06:01] <zenmonk> I have a question, if I type sh in bash, it creates a new sh process, how can I switch between which sh process I am typing in?
[06:01] <jordan_> baxter_kylie: But is that the effect you want, for them to be unmounted but still in the tray.
[06:01] <KakarottoCL> I need help please.. i'm trying to install ubuntu 6.10 but when the X is supposed to start, it hangs up.. i get a blank screen even in the Safe Graphics mode!
[06:01] <nomasteryoda> orville, type man modules
[06:01] <AlienX> which library do i need to play m4a or aac files in ubuntu?
[06:01] <dougsko> crimsun: oh well, its late, i appreciate the input though
[06:01] <AlienX> i'm using edgy
[06:01] <nomasteryoda> KakarottoCL, is it a desktop or laptop?
[06:01] <KakarottoCL> nomasteryoda: it is a desktop
[06:01] <KakarottoCL> nomasteryoda: indeed i'm using version 6.06 already without problems..
[06:01] <nomasteryoda> ok, does the video card have a cooling fan?
[06:01] <nomasteryoda> ok
[06:02] <amax> why so hard to find anything for ubuntu? the simple package gconf-sharp is present even under gentoo. but not ubuntu. shame!
[06:02] <KakarottoCL> nomasteryoda: it's not a problem with the video card, it's a radeon 9550
[06:02] <nomasteryoda> well, then there goes that theory
[06:02] <powercat> nomasteryoda: after following the instructions at the site about nvidia drivers, I still can only go up to 1024x768.
[06:02] <alexander> nomasteryoda, hey, you know if there is a way to work of off 2 LAN at the same time?
[06:02] <nomasteryoda> powercat, did you do the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[06:02] <baxter_kylie> jordan_: yes, I'd like to have enough access to run speedcontrol and hdparm -x without the disc leaving the tray. It only has to run at boot.
[06:03] <bimberi> amax: it's called gconf-sharp2 - use synaptic or 'apt-cache search string' or http://packages.ubuntu.com to find packages
[06:03] <nomasteryoda> alexander, i'm looking... i've seen that before... its called teaming in the windows world..
[06:04] <amax> bimberi: not found. did you have it ?
[06:04] <powercat> nomasteryoda: I'll try that. thanks
[06:04] <bimberi> amax: do you have unverse enabled?
[06:04] <bimberi> amax: *universe
[06:04] <bimberi> !info gconf-sharp2
[06:04] <ubotu> Package gconf-sharp2 does not exist in any distro I know
[06:05] <jordan_> baxter_kylie: I don't know what to say, sudo umount /media/cdrom0 works for me
[06:05] <amax> !info gconf-sharp
[06:05] <ubotu> Package gconf-sharp does not exist in any distro I know
[06:05] <bruenig> !info gconf2
[06:05] <nomasteryoda> baxter_kylie, you can put it into run-level 3 if you want... or 5
[06:05] <ubotu> gconf2: GNOME configuration database system (support tools). In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.0-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 127 kB, installed size 276 kB
[06:05] <alexander> nomasteryoda, ive actually never seen that expression. what is it called in the world of Linux?
[06:05] <bruenig> is that what it is? gconf2?
[06:05] <crimsun> !info libgconf2.0-cil
[06:05] <ubotu> libgconf2.0-cil: CLI binding for GConf 2.16. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.0-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 125 kB, installed size 292 kB
[06:05] <KakarottoCL> I would appreciate somebody to help me with 6.10 installation
[06:05] <bimberi> amax: argh, my apologies, it's gnome-sharp2 (D'Oh!)
[06:05] <nomasteryoda> alexander, googling...
[06:05] <amax> hm..
[06:05] <bimberi> !info gnome-sharp2
[06:05] <ubotu> gnome-sharp2: Gnome# 2.10 suite, CLI bindings for Gnome. In component universe, is optional.   Looks very cool.  It is based off of the 6.9 code branch of the Xorg server and appears to be actively developed and updated .  It doesn't appear to take too many resources either.
[06:07] <bimberi> amax: there's also gtk-sharp and gtk-sharp2, but no gconf.  Looks like it isn't there.
[06:07] <jordan_> KakarottoCL: You could try the alternate installer.
[06:07] <KakarottoCL> how do I load it?
[06:07] <teenprogrammer> ok
[06:07] <teenprogrammer> cool!
[06:07] <amax> bimberi: I think ew need to create new one..
[06:07] <teenprogrammer> Hasin321 does it go on my server?
[06:08] <amax> to many softfware for mono uses this binding.
[06:08] <Hansin321> teenprogrammer: I meant to also add (before I mistakingly kit my return key): http://www.straightrunning.com/XmingNotes/
[06:08] <jordan_> KakarottoCL: You need to download a different CD.
[06:08] <orville> nomasteryoda: thanks. looks like i was putting it in the right place after all.
[06:08] <jrattner> Question:  When I start up my computer I get the follow error: bcm43xx_microcode5.fw  I think its my wireless card?
[06:08] <teenprogrammer> thanks
[06:08] <Healot> teenprogrammer: book title?
[06:08] <amax> hm.. who is committer for mono packages ?
[06:08] <Hansin321> teenprogrammer: http://sourceforge.net/projects/xming
[06:08] <jrattner> i mean, [17180843.288000]  bcm43xx: Error: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available or load failed.
[06:08] <Healot> amax: people from Novell?
[06:09] <JDStone1> is google.com working for anyone?
[06:09] <KakarottoCL> jordan_: damn.. i wouldn't like to do that.. i lost two cd's and a dvd because i though they were missburned, but i then runned the CD check option from the menu and it said its fine..
[06:09] <amax> Healot: committer to ubuntu repos
[06:09] <teenprogrammer> google works
[06:09] <JDStone1> hmm
[06:10] <Healot> amax: read the package description then
[06:10] <jordan_> KakarottoCL: Did you get an error or a blank screen?
[06:10] <JDStone1> my piece of shit internet
[06:10] <KakarottoCL> jordan_: just a blank screen
[06:10] <KakarottoCL> jordan_: i wasn't even able to do alt+ctrl+f1 or so
[06:10] <amax> so we have missed gconf-sharp2.. pity
[06:11] <Hansin321> teenprogrammer: This is the download site (see the other one also).  You want to download the Xming installer and install like any other Windows program on your Windows box.  As far as how you would run programs off of youLinux box on have them display on the Windows X-Server, well I'm not too good at that yet.  But dig around and see what you can learn.  I can tell you that Xming looks good...
[06:11] <Hansin321> ...-- I have run the X-Server off of Cygwin and this is cool that it is stand-alone.  Cygwin is cool also for other reasons...
[06:11] <daviddixon> so why does mplayer require lindirectfb-9.22 and all i can install is 9.24????
[06:11] <josephoenix> So... I read on the forums that vlc in edgy has vc1/wmv9 support linked in, but my wmv9 avis don't play :\
[06:11] <teenprogrammer> ok
[06:11] <teenprogrammer> thanks!
[06:12] <teenprogrammer> I will install XMin
[06:12] <teenprogrammer> g
[06:12] <bimberi> amax: Ubuntu's mono packages have "Ubuntu Core Developers<EMAIL_ADDRESS>as the maintainer
[06:12] <DeltaF> anyone know how to start evms gui?
[06:12] <jordan_> KakarottoCL: How intent are you in not burning another CD?
[06:12] <KakarottoCL> jordan_: How safe is the alternative installer? is it graphicless?
[06:13] <nomasteryoda> KakarottoCL, works very well
[06:13] <jordan_> KakarottoCL: It is perfectly safe, it is also text based, so yes.
[06:13] <nomasteryoda> and is just the same, but text-based
[06:13] <teenprogrammer> brb
[06:14] <teenprogrammer> have to boot into windows
[06:14] <KakarottoCL> ain't any way to use it with the original cd ?
[06:14] <urmom> hey guys i was thinking of trying ubuntu, i currently have fedora core 6 and i want to dual boot, If i install ubuntu on my empty partition will grub work with both of them out of the box?
[06:14] <sethk> KakarottoCL, it's a curses type interface, if you're familiar with that
[06:14] <sethk> KakarottoCL, it's completely safe
[06:14] <sethk> KakarottoCL, with the current release of ubuntu, and also the immediately preceding release, the text mode install is on the alternate cd
[06:14] <nomasteryoda> and does not boot into live cd mode...that makes the installer less intensive for older computers
[06:15] <KakarottoCL> btw, it seem to be a common bug with Radeon cards..
[06:15] <sethk> KakarottoCL, earlier versions had text and graphical install on the same cd
[06:15] <KakarottoCL> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/67487
[06:15] <jordan_> KakarottoCL: It is hard to tell what problem you are having, there are a few things you could try but it's sort of a stab in the dark.
[06:15] <nomasteryoda> but if you have it online in 6.01, then you can do a dist-upgrae
[06:15] <sethk> nomasteryoda, yes, not to mention those machine where the graphical installer simply won't work.
[06:15] <splintax> favourite thing about ubuntu so far: the "adjust volume" dialog comes up straight away when you click it in the systray. heh.
[06:15] <nomasteryoda> but if you have it online in 6.01, then you can do a dist-upgrade
[06:15] <nomasteryoda> ya
[06:15] <nomasteryoda> like sony 505 series
[06:16] <KakarottoCL> did you both saw the link ?
[06:16] <urmom> so uhh thanks for not helping me guys.,.
[06:16] <sethk> splintax, that's configurable.  (well, not in windows, but in all the varieties of linux and unix)
[06:16] <sethk> urmom, I just got here, what's your question?
[06:16] <KakarottoCL> it seems that other people have had the same problem than me.. look the link i posted before
[06:16] <nomasteryoda> KakarottoCL, hang on
[06:16] <splintax> sethk: in windows there's some bullshit 5 second delay before the thing 'loads'
[06:17] <splintax> sethk: it's buggy as hell, and has been since 295
[06:17] <jordan_> KakarottoCL: Did any of them try disabling boot splash?
[06:17] <splintax> **w95
[06:17] <sethk> splintax, yes, true.
[06:17] <urmom> sethk, it doesn't matter anymore, a fedora guy helped me out
[06:17] <sethk> urmom, ok
[06:17] <baxter_kylie> jordan_ & nomasteryoda: No dice. The disc is simply not mounted.
[06:18] <baxter_kylie> jordan_ & nomasteryoda: If the os believes there is a physical disc within the drive it seems to error.
[06:19] <KakarottoCL> jordan_: i'm still reading.. no solution yet
[06:19] <tarelerul1> I just got my screen configed the way it should be
[06:20] <jordan_> KakarottoCL: It seems sombody tried my solution and it worked.
[06:20] <nomasteryoda> KakarottoCL, do you have the 6.01 installed on it?
[06:20] <jordan_> KakarottoCL: The new high resolution boot splash in edgy doesn't do whell on newer machines and screw up the tty's
[06:21] <TMX> or on mac
[06:21] <TMX> completely crashes the boot process
[06:21] <TMX> arg stupid  key
[06:21] <factotum> yeah, im pretty happy sticking with 6.06 for a while
[06:21] <factotum> had to many little problems that just got annoying
[06:22] <jordan_> TMX: I am on a macbook pro and it only screws up my tty's
[06:22] <nomasteryoda> using it here.. but edgy on my laptops
[06:22] <factotum> with Edgy anyways
[06:22] <TMX> jordan_: macbook non-pro here :)
[06:22] <TMX> on the crappy i810 intel graphics
[06:23] <nomasteryoda> TMX, my intel chipset works fine... on a dell
[06:23] <nomasteryoda> =D
[06:23] <nomasteryoda> even beryl works perfect
[06:23] <KakarottoCL> if it is a resolution problem, isn't it fixable?
[06:23] <jordan_> KakarottoCL: What you need to do is when the first menu shows up choose custom ( or whatever it is called ) and delete the word "splash" you should be able to get to a console, from there I have more instructions that might help get X up and running.
[06:23] <teenprogrammer> gmm
[06:23] <teenprogrammer> hmmm*
[06:23] <TMX> beryl works fine
[06:24] <boni> how do make a boot cd frm an iso image can anyone help me with it??
[06:24] <TMX> KakarottoCL, haven got a clue what the problem is, couldn even hazard a guess
[06:24] <teenprogrammer> hwo do i setup xming?
[06:24] <KakarottoCL> jordan_: are those instructions relative to change the driver to "vesa"?
[06:24] <factotum> the one problem i STILL have is wolfenstien ET, starts up in a window and really really laggy/choppy
[06:24] <nomasteryoda> KakarottoCL, yes that should work... remove quiet and splash
[06:24] <jordan_> KakarottoCL: No, completely seperate.
[06:24] <sethk> boni, is you are in windows, you have to use a program that knows how to write an iso image to a cd.  Nero can do this.  There are free programs available that can do this.
[06:24] <KakarottoCL> i'm guessing the problem is about a 1400x1050 resolution, isn't it?
[06:25] <nomasteryoda> nope
[06:25] <sethk> boni, windows itself, I'm told, cannot do it, at least "out of the box."
[06:25] <nomasteryoda> my laptop has that and is fine
[06:25] <jordan_> KakarottoCL: Actually it is about newer BIOS's.
[06:25] <nomasteryoda> i think it's the video card setup... in the bios
[06:25] <KakarottoCL> how could i try to fix it by the nice way?
[06:25] <nomasteryoda> http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=751&slide=4&title=ubuntu+6.10+screenshots
[06:25] <sethk> KakarottoCL, there is no problem using 1400x1050 with ubuntu, if (of course) the graphics adapter and monitor support it.
[06:25] <jordan_> KakarottoCL: What do you mean "nice way" ?
[06:25] <nomasteryoda> you should press F6
[06:26] <TMX> I sure itl be fixed by
[06:26] <nomasteryoda> on the installer
[06:26] <KakarottoCL> I mean without altering the Xorg config
[06:26] <jrib> Where would be the right location for documentation about /etc/environment?  Specifcally, the use of $LANGUAGE
[06:26] <TMX> i'm sure it'll be fixed by 7.4 anyway :D
[06:26] <KakarottoCL> hahahahah
[06:26] <nomasteryoda> KakarottoCL, when it is installed it will work...
[06:26] <nomasteryoda> just edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and remove "splash"
[06:26] <boni> sethk: No I dont use windows I use Dapper I know its using cdrecord but I am not sure can you give me a link or help me out how to use cdrecord??
[06:27] <jordan_> KakarottoCL: The instructions I will give will install the fglrx drivers from the command line, but there is no manual xorg editing required.
[06:27] <KakarottoCL> but what i'm supposed to do after the X hangs again? (having the loader without the quiet and splash lines)?
[06:27] <kuzmaster> hey all
[06:27] <sethk> boni, with an iso file, on my box, I just use     cdrecord -vv iso-file-name
[06:27] <sethk> boni, the -vv just makes it talk more as it burns
[06:27] <KakarottoCL> jordan_: ok, i won't interrupt you, go ahead
[06:27] <nomasteryoda> without the splash, it won't hang...
[06:27] <jordan_> nomasteryoda: But X will still fail.
[06:27] <sethk> boni, On my ubuntu boxes the sym link to the cd writer is set up automatically during install, so that cdrecord "just works"
[06:27] <nomasteryoda> ok
[06:28] <sethk> boni, if your cd writer was installed when you installed ubuntu, that should be true for you as well.
[06:28] <nomasteryoda> guys, that is an old laptop
[06:28] <sethk> boni, try it.  The worst thing that can happen is that it won't work.
[06:29] <boni> sethk: Thanx but dont you need to give the device id by finding it from scanbus??
[06:29] <sethk> boni, no
[06:29] <asparagui> how long till fiesty knot 1?
[06:29] <nomasteryoda> i have a latitude from 2005 and its fine...
[06:29] <sethk> boni, because the default is to use the symlink to the cd writer
[06:29] <KakarottoCL> jordan_: so?
[06:29] <sethk> boni, you can override the default, of course, but there usually is no need to.
[06:29] <Flannel> asparagui: Feisty Herd 1 is set for Nov 30ish - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule
[06:30] <teenprogrammer> i am not getting Xming to work
[06:30] <boni> sethk: Ok I will try it out I guess my default will work as well
[06:30] <jordan_> KakarottoCL: I am going to pastebin the instructions when I am done, unless you want to here it step by step as I go, which is fine too.
[06:30] <nomasteryoda> http://www.geocities.com/acarirfan/inspiron-1150.html
[06:30] <nomasteryoda> is that not your laptop?
[06:30] <sethk> boni, give it a try.  older versions of cdrecord weren't quite so smart, but recent versions usually work this way.
[06:30] <KakarottoCL> jordan_: yeah I would like the step by step
[06:30] <KakarottoCL> jordan_: i'll go taking note along the way
[06:30] <kuzmaster> what is the terminal comma for opening a text file
[06:31] <sethk> boni, and of course you can always use scanbus to figure out the device.  but you have to use an option with scanbus to tell it you want the IDE mode, not the scsi emulation mode, and the syntax is a bit odd.
[06:31] <kuzmaster> such as opening my sources.list files
[06:31] <nomasteryoda> kuzmaster, nano filename
[06:31] <kuzmaster> thanx
[06:31] <nomasteryoda> kuzmaster, or vi filename
[06:31] <sethk> kuzmaster, more, less, vi, nano, emacs, lots of options
[06:31] <nomasteryoda> sudo if you want to save it...
[06:31] <jordan_> KakarottoCL: First run: sudo software-properties -e restriced
[06:32] <nomasteryoda> sudo nano filename... nano is easier to understand kuzmaster
[06:33] <jordan_> KakarottoCL: Sorry, my DNS resolutions are taking 10 + seconds so googleing for specifics like package names is taking a while.
[06:33] <teenprogrammer> how do i setup ftp on an ubuntu server?
[06:34] <KakarottoCL> jordan_: ok, don't worry.. I would thank anything you do for me, no matter how long it takes
[06:34] <asparagui> flannel: k, thx.
[06:34] <KakarottoCL> nomasteryoda: do you know how do this guy uses these windows-like fonts in this screenshot?? http://img74.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pantallazo7fe.png
[06:35] <nomasteryoda> sure
[06:35] <jordan_> KakarottoCL: Then: sudo apt-get update then: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic xorg-driver-fglrx
[06:36] <kuzmaster> grrrrrrrr.........
[06:36] <KakarottoCL> jordan_: i do that in the console after X crash?
[06:36] <jordan_> KakarottoCL: Then: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh ( choose fglrx when asked what driver to use )
[06:36] <nomasteryoda> KakarottoCL,  sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[06:37] <jordan_> KakarottoCL: Yes.
[06:37] <kuzmaster> oops
[06:37] <kuzmaster> sudo fixes all
[06:37] <nomasteryoda> =D
[06:37] <kuzmaster> ;)
[06:37] <teenprogrammer> so is setting up ftp on ubuntu easy?
[06:37] <kissfire> hellow !
[06:37] <bimberi> !ftp
[06:38] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[06:38] <nomasteryoda> kissfire, howdy
[06:38] <teenprogrammer> ftp host
[06:38] <nomasteryoda> wow, 899KB/sec dl
[06:38] <jordan_> Then: "sudo gdm" and everything should work, should being the imparative word ;)
[06:38] <sethk> teenprogrammer, they are all ftp hosts
[06:38] <nomasteryoda> man, smokin
[06:38] <kuzmaster> anyway, does ubuntu have a wifi utility like kubutu does?
[06:38] <nomasteryoda> gnome-network-manager... install that kuzmaster
[06:38] <jordan_> kuzmaster: Yes, network-manager-gnome
[06:38] <nomasteryoda> yea, that
[06:38] <nomasteryoda> oops
[06:38] <shrndegruv> hey im thinking of trying ubuntu -- been using gentoo for a while
[06:39] <KakarottoCL> jordan_: i'm taking note :D
[06:39] <kuzmaster> thanx
[06:39] <shrndegruv> was wondering what people recommended for fs type and starting partitions
[06:39] <sethk> teenprogrammer, the reason there are so many is that the FTP protocol itself is a disaster, from a security perspective, and there are many attempts to ammeliorate this, with varying degrees of success.
[06:39] <nomasteryoda> ext3 is my preference
[06:39] <charle97> i like rieserfs