[06:32] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:32] <Draggin> Okay Sayed - mind explaining them again? And just to make certain - in the second command, that is a space after the bind /dev and before the /mnt/ubuntu/dev, right?
[06:32] <m12> !ubotu yes
[06:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yes - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:32] <tonyyarusso> Evanlec: yeah, it's the first 512 bytes iirc
[06:33] <evilskillit> I'm new to Linux and could use some help with sound looping issues I'm having, and also need to figure out how to set resolutions in x-windows.
[06:33] <Evanlec> kalias0, ubotu is a bot :)
[06:33] <Sayed> evilskillit: man xorg.conf
[06:33] <numus> sayed http://nopaste.com/p/afh8mWezx
[06:33] <kalias0> oh, sorry :(
[06:33] <Evanlec> tonyyarusso, alright, makes a little more sense to me now, so grub overwrites that space with a pointer to the /boot partition
[06:33] <kalias0> evanlec: any chance you can help me?
[06:33] <GNine> !ubotu
[06:33] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:34] <Evanlec> kalias0, whats the problem?
[06:34] <tonyyarusso> Evanlec: yup
[06:34] <kalias0> I have a composite out problem.  I can get text to my tv but not graphics.
[06:34] <Sayed> numus: You need to set correct horizontal synchronization and vertical refresh values in your monitor section
[06:34] <Sayed> Draggin: Ready for next step?
[06:35] <Draggin> Just a second - reposting...
[06:35] <Draggin> Okay Sayed - mind explaining them again? And just to make certain - in the second command, that is a space after the bind /dev and before the /mnt/ubuntu/dev, right?
[06:35] <kalias0> do the CRT and TV have to have the same rates?
[06:35] <shrimants> Hello everyone
[06:35] <Evanlec> tonyyarusso, but lets say in a dual-boot environment with windows, that point would still go to the /boot partition but inside that partition would be the config files that would let u then boot from another partition to windows for example?
[06:35] <numus> sayed how do i figure those out
[06:35] <Sayed> Draggin: There is a space, and that command mounts the proc and dev filesystems
[06:35] <Sayed> numus: Look-up your monitor online by model #
[06:35] <Draggin> okay cool... I'll worr
[06:35] <Draggin> okay cool... I'll worry about what exactly that means later :)
[06:36] <shrimants> how do i remove the -15-generic kernel?
[06:36] <numus> sony sdm-s51
[06:36] <Sayed> Draggin: Next command is   chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash
[06:36] <Sayed> numus: www.google.ca =)
[06:36] <kalias0> okay, I will.  Can my CRT and TV have different refresh rates?
[06:36] <Evanlec> kalias0, umm...yes they can
[06:36] <Sayed> Draggin: then env-update
[06:36] <Pirate_Hunter> what is a good program package for visual basic/ c languages/ SQL etc in ubuntu?
[06:36] <Sayed> Draggin: Then source /etc/profile
[06:36] <tonyyarusso> Evanlec: Yeah - !dualboot has more info on that.  Windows would just be another entry like anything else, plus the chainloader +1 option
[06:36] <kalias0> ok, I will go and check out my TV and see what it says, thanks :)
[06:36] <Sayed> Draggin: then for kicks do  export PS1="(chroot) $PS1"
[06:36] <shrimants> how do i remove a kernel?
[06:37] <winbond> how safe is the opera browser? , i know a while ago there was bunch of spyware that installed itself on my pc through it
[06:37] <Evanlec> Sayed, i think you meant /mnt/ubuntu not /mnt/gentoo ya?
[06:37] <m12> sayed: ++
[06:37] <Evanlec> winbond, i think opera is Ad supported, so that may still be the case
[06:37] <leladia> hi everyone
[06:37] <Geeunkown> hey anyone know how to just share one folder on ubuntu linux over and home network so that windows users can have access. with out sharing your home directory..
[06:37] <Sayed> Evanlec: Yeah, i'm so used to Gentoo
[06:38] <Draggin> okay... got all of that down
[06:38] <Sayed> Draggin: Replace all lines with /mnt/ubuntu
[06:38] <Sayed> Draggin: Instead of /mnt/gentoo
[06:38] <Evanlec> Sayed, what do u prefer? ubuntu or gentoo?
[06:38] <Draggin> yip, got it
[06:38] <m12> geeunknown < !samba
[06:38] <numus> sayed i am having a problem finding that info
[06:38] <Sayed> Evanlec: Gentoo, but i'm a student now and have no time to tinker withi t
[06:38] <winbond> Evanlec, oh, any way to get rid of the ad part?
[06:38] <Sayed> Evanlec: WHen a long weekend comes around, i'll switch back hehe
[06:38] <Sayed> numus: Check the manual
[06:38] <Evanlec> !share | Geeunkown
[06:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about share - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:38] <Sayed> Draggin: Okay, now cd /mnt/ubunto/boot
[06:38] <evilskillit> Ok I'll be a while getting acquainted with the manual for xorg.conf. My other problem is any time I play sound or video with sound the audio sticks and starts looping and makes my computer almost lock up for a while. My soundcard is an old sb live.
[06:39] <aLkaN> s.a
[06:39] <Sayed> Draggin: Then  do a grep -v rootfs /proc/mounts > /etc/mtab
[06:39] <Evanlec> winbond, yea i think if u register it, which costs $, i could be wrong tho, check their website
[06:39] <winbond> EvaLuaTe, k m thanks
[06:39] <leladia> pls how do i display the content of /etc/passwd omiting or suppressing certain fields?
[06:39] <Draggin> o-kay
[06:39] <winbond> Evanlec,  m thanks
[06:39] <Sayed> Draggin: Then we edit the grub.conf
[06:40] <Draggin> how?
[06:40] <Sayed> Draggin: Add the following lines to your grub.conf and change the device lines respectively
[06:40] <Sayed> Draggin:  When I do a ## that means a new line, okay?
[06:40] <Draggin> vi?
[06:40] <Sayed> Draggin: Vim, vi, nano, whatever
[06:40] <Draggin> okay...
[06:40] <Geeunkown> yeah I have an home network and just wanted to share one folder for read only but when I use the share option it shares out the whole home directory not what I attended too do..
[06:40] <Sayed> Draggin: title=Windows XP ## rootnoverify (hd0,0) ## makeactive ## chainloader +1
[06:41] <Evanlec> Draggin, use nano for your text editor, its easiest, via cmd "sudo nano grub.conf"
[06:41] <Sayed> Draggin: Replace (hd0,0) with the windows partition
[06:41] <numus> sayed horizontal syn and refresh go in monitor not screen right?
[06:41] <Sayed> numus: Yessir
[06:41] <leladia> pls how do i display the content of '/etc/passwd' omitting or suppressing certain fields?
[06:41] <Sayed> numus: Make sure you use proper syntax, x11 is picky
[06:42] <Sayed> Draggin: One more thing left to do after that, let me know when you get it down
[06:42] <jonneh> xorg.conf - bigdesktop with different resolutions, anyone know how?
[06:42] <Evanlec> !grep
[06:42] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[06:42] <pjman> Hi everyone. How can I convert shn files to flac?
[06:42] <OrTigaS> how to shared my ubuntu home  folder to windows network?
[06:43] <m12> !samba
[06:43] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:43] <dystopianray> OrTigaS: you can do that with samba
[06:43] <Sayed> OrTigaS: Haha, have fun. Start with Samba
[06:43] <OrTigaS> right click 'folder'....
[06:43] <leladia> pls i need help
[06:43] <OrTigaS> installed already :)
[06:43] <m12> leladia, what is problem
[06:43] <leladia> pls how do i display the content of /etc/passwd omitting or suppressing certain fields?
[06:43] <OrTigaS> just want it to share and browse
[06:43] <jonneh> xorg.conf - bigdesktop with different resolutions, anyone know how?
[06:43] <Sayed> Draggin: By the way, your grub.conf is /boot/grub/grub.conf
[06:44] <qazwsx> how do I know which version of ubuntu I'm running i.e. fiesty, gutsy, or edgy
[06:44] <m12> leladia , sec
[06:44] <Sayed> qazwsx: I assume uname -a
[06:44] <leladia> m12: okay
[06:44] <dystopianray> qazwsx: cat /etc/lsb-release
[06:44] <Draggin> Sayed, just to make sure, the end result of all of this is that Linux is basically going to overwrite NTLDR with GRUB, thus enabling me to choose to load either Linux or Windows when I boot the system, right? No data files are being overwritten, only the MBR?
[06:44] <Evanlec> qazwsx, lsb-release -a
[06:44] <dystopianray> Draggin: that's right
[06:44] <Sayed> Draggin: Indeed.
[06:44] <OrTigaS> its just showing on the network but cant broswe/open
[06:44] <Draggin> Okay, great :)
[06:44] <Evanlec> qazwsx, oops, maybe not
[06:45] <Draggin> Quite a bloody process though...
[06:45] <Sayed> Draggin: Hehe, I know
[06:45] <jonneh> xorg.conf - bigdesktop with different resolutions, anyone know how?
[06:45] <Sayed> Draggin: Would've been easier if you planned in advance. It's like chewing gum for me, i've done it 10000 times
[06:45] <Sayed> Draggin: eady for last step?
[06:45] <m12> leladia , try with vipw
[06:45] <Draggin> Well... I tried planning in advance, but it's a little difficult planing it if you don't really have a clue what you're doing :)
[06:45] <Draggin> Yes, let me right down the last one and try all of this...
[06:46] <Sayed> Draggin: cd /mnt/ubuntu/boot/grub/ && grub-install --no-floppy /dev/sda
[06:46] <Shmattie> Anyone know how to make a cron script start a GUI app like mplayer?
[06:46] <leladia> m12: i will, right now
[06:46] <Sayed> Draggin: Now I have to go to sleep to get to class early. e-mail me with any problems at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and I will respond as soon as I get back. I'll be in this channel in aprox. 15 hrs from now
[06:46] <m12> shmattie , in session
[06:46] <OrTigaS> how can shred my folder
[06:47] <m12> shred ?
[06:47] <OrTigaS> shared*
[06:47] <marx2k> ??
[06:47] <OrTigaS> :)
[06:47] <m12> use samba
[06:47] <OrTigaS> its just showing on the network but cant broswe/open
[06:47] <OrTigaS> installed already :)
[06:47] <Sayed> m12: Samba isn't exactly a walk in the park hehe
[06:47] <leladia> m12: i was told permission denied
[06:47] <Draggin> Schweet :) Thanks a lot Sayed
[06:47] <m12> sayed , SWAT ;)
[06:47] <leladia> i am connected to my schs server
[06:47] <Sayed> Draggin: Not a problemo. Hope you get everything sorted out.
[06:47] <Sayed> m12: lOL
[06:47] <m12> ortigas, try SWAT
[06:47] <Draggin> I'll go try it out right now and let you know how it goes
[06:47] <leladia> so i have very little permission
[06:47] <Shmattie> m12, I am looking for it start at a certain time, not on login.  How do I do that in session?
[06:47] <OrTigaS> swat?
[06:48] <marx2k> ubuntu totally needs an easier setup for samba shared folders
[06:48] <OrTigaS> neverheard :)
[06:48] <Sayed> Draggin: Okay. I'm off to sleep.  Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:48] <Draggin> Okay everyone... I'm off to put the instructions to use...
[06:48] <dn4> where is a good place online to buy a motherboard and cpu
[06:48] <marx2k> newgg.com
[06:48] <Draggin> See y'all later and thanks for the advice
[06:48] <marx2k> newegg
[06:49] <m12> gn Draggin
[06:49] <Otaimerz> hai
[06:49] <leladia> what is vipw?
[06:49] <Otaimerz> i need help about installation ubuntu
[06:49] <leladia> are they options to a command?
[06:49] <m12> vi passwd editor
[06:49] <m12> vipw
[06:50] <leladia> okay
[06:50] <leladia> thanks
[06:50] <Otaimerz> why when i bootable the image cd ya... it running.. and i enter the install.. then.. after loading linux kernel.. it show system halted
[06:50] <leladia> what i am actually looking for is different
[06:50] <leladia> i knw when i use the finger command
[06:50] <Otaimerz> why:? and how i want to overcome that problem
[06:50] <leladia> i get some fields
[06:51] <leladia> i want to be able to suppress some of those fields
[06:51] <m12> vipw lets u edit it, aint that enough lelaida ?
[06:51] <leladia> permission denied
[06:51] <Shmattie> Otaimerz, Have you tried the recovery mode on the cd?
[06:51] <m12> sudo =?
[06:51] <leladia> when i tried that
[06:51] <dystopianray> m12: that's not what leladia is asking for
[06:51] <marx2k> Otaimerz: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=site%3Aubuntuforums.org+livecd+system+halted&btnG=Search
[06:52] <m12> hmm
[06:52] <leladia> m12: i am remotely accessing my schools server
[06:52] <m12> than i probably dont uderstand question
[06:52] <rafaelscj> !vnc
[06:52] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[06:52] <dystopianray> leladia: unless you want to edit /etc/passwd don't use vipw
[06:52] <dystopianray> leladia: and only root can use vipw
[06:52] <leladia> i am not the administrator
[06:52] <leladia> dystopianray:  thanks
[06:53] <leladia> i think u seem to understand me a little
[06:53] <leladia> all i want  is to view the content of /etc/passwd
 Otaimerz, Have you tried the recovery mode on the cd?: how to recovery mode ?
[06:53] <Uncle_Muscle> sounds like you want to circumvent the server's security
[06:53] <pjman> anyone know how to convert shorten (shn) files to flac? Amarok can't play shn files in Feisty.
[06:53] <leladia> however, i also want to be able to suppress some fields from showing
[06:54] <Uncle_Muscle> leladia: talk to your admin, then
[06:54] <john_davis> Is there support for USB ethernet cards on the Ubuntu Desktop Install CD?
[06:54] <leladia> uncle_Muscle: if i use cat i can display the content
[06:54] <leladia> that is not a problem
[06:54] <bulmer> leladia: any user can cat /etc/passwd
[06:55] <Shmattie> Otaimerz, I am not an Ubuntu expert.  I was thinking on the install cd menu, you could choose some type of recovery mode.
[06:55] <leladia> bulmer: yes
[06:55] <Uncle_Muscle> modification is the issue
[06:55] <helpme> hello
[06:55] <leladia> but i don't want certain fields to be displayed in my output
[06:55] <dystopianray> john_davis: what chip does the device use?
[06:55] <Uncle_Muscle> ah
[06:55] <Shmattie> Otaimerz, I just searched and there is a text mode install.  Have you tried that?
[06:55] <helpme> can someone help me?
[06:55] <m12> !coffe
[06:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about coffe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:56] <BernieMac> !ask | helpme
[06:56] <ubotu> helpme: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:56] <bulmer> leladia: use awk to tokenize each field and print only ones you like
[06:56] <CyberMad> i got problem with windows shared folder to my ubuntu.. i tried this on my fstab: //<IP_ADDRESS>/Shared /mnt/shared cifs auto,user,username=xxxxx,workgroup=xxxxx,password=xxxxx,uid=500,gid=500,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777,rw 0 0
[06:56] <benanz1> when I do "ping localhost" it takes forever and pings some weird IP in my DNS server's IP range
[06:56] <leladia> bulmer: is awk an option?
[06:57] <CyberMad> but everytime i copy a file or folder in windows shared folder.. it always set as read only, so there is key icon on it.. so i can not delete or rename or modify
[06:57] <helpme> ha ok, so i broke ubuntu but i saved a backup file. i am on the live cd try to make the change so i can have my good ubuntu back but it won't let me access my hard drive becasue i am not root. How can i log in as root through the live cd?
[06:57] <dystopianray> leladia: awk is a command
[06:57] <bulmer> leladia man awk
[06:57] <dystopianray> helpme: sudo -i
[06:57] <CyberMad> but if i did umount -a  and then mount -a, then the key is dissapear
[06:57] <leladia> bulmer: thanks
[06:57] <helpme> ok just a second
[06:58] <Techone> Has anyone tried running ubuntu 7.04 from a virtual machine program?
[06:58] <helpme> ok so now how can i get to my hard drive?
[06:58] <helpme> it's showing up in the GUI but not in the text
[06:58] <Evanlec> Techone, yea, and it works like a charm ;p
[06:58] <dystopianray> helpme: where is it mounted?
[06:58] <marx2k> helpme: liveCD runs as root I think
[06:59] <Pirate_Hunter> Can someoen help me please how do I install TLS 1.5.0? I'm trying to use aim 0.97 and it needs that
[06:59] <dystopianray> marx2k: it doesn't
[06:59] <Techone> How so I've been trying now for the last hour and no luck
[06:59] <helpme> the gui shows in on the desktop and it's mounted at media
[06:59] <marx2k> oh!
[06:59] <CyberMad> does anyone here can help me how to make ubuntu always save file not as read only?
[06:59] <dystopianray> helpme: so your hdd is somewhere in /media
[06:59] <marx2k> so what account does liveCD run as?
[06:59] <Evanlec> Techone, i used vnc-player
[06:59] <helpme> yes
[06:59] <dystopianray> marx2k: just a generic user named 'ubuntu'
[06:59] <helpme> it's media/disk
[06:59] <marx2k> interesting
[06:59] <Techone> what about virtual pc 2007
[06:59] <astro76> Techone, what system are you on, windows?
[06:59] <marx2k> I was not aware
[06:59] <Techone> xp
[06:59] <dystopianray> Techone: use vmware
[07:00] <Evanlec> Techone, that one im not familiar with, but i know some have done it
[07:00] <marx2k> or VirtualBox
[07:00] <astro76> Techone, get vmware player, then go to easyvmx.com and make a blank virtual machine
[07:00] <Shmattie> leladia, something like awk '{ print $1 $3 }'
[07:00] <Techone> alright
[07:00] <marx2k> I wish VirtualBox was default installed :/
[07:00] <bulmer> leladia: something like this  awk -F: '{print $1, $3 }' /etc/passwd
[07:00] <Shmattie> leladia, change the $1 and 3 to whatever column numbers you want
[07:01] <alecwh> Hey! I'm looking for a program for linux that's good for taking notes in my math class. I need to be able to use this program, just like I would actually be taking notes, drawing and putting stuff into "tables". can someone help me find an app for this?
[07:01] <Techone> I've used vmware once no luck but that was with reactOS
[07:01] <m12> techone check in #vmware
[07:01] <helpme> Is someone working on my question?
[07:01] <Techone> ok
[07:01] <dystopianray> alecwh: why not just use paper?
[07:02] <dystopianray> helpme: what is your question?
[07:02] <rafaelscj> who may tell me a vnc client for ubuntu?
[07:02] <Pirate_Hunter> Can someone help me install TLS 1.5.0 as i need it for amsn 97 and it needs it? ive downloaded it but have no clue how to install it as there is no read me file
[07:02] <alecwh> dystopianray: I have all my assignments/notes taken on my computer. I CAN use paper, but it would be convienent for an app. :)
[07:02] <albertmk> Hi. I am kubuntu user. Do I have to install Intel GMA 950 driver to my computer or it does automatically?
[07:02] <dystopianray> albertmk: automatically
[07:02] <albertmk> nice
[07:02] <Pirate_Hunter> and how do i run .so files in terminal?
[07:02] <phuzion_> what is the installation candidate for unrar-nonfree?
[07:03] <helpme> i can't find the hard drive when using the terminal
[07:03] <m12> anyone know where one can download canonical's JeOS ?
[07:03] <helpme> i know it's in media/disk
[07:03] <dystopianray> phuzion_: unrar-nonfree is near useless, use unrar
[07:03] <helpme> but doesnt show up
[07:03] <dystopianray> phuzion_: sorry ignore me I misunderstood what you said
[07:03] <rafaelscj> Pirate_Hunter, didn't you do apt-get install amns?
[07:03] <dystopianray> helpme: run 'mount' and see exactly where it is mounted
[07:03] <rafaelscj> amsn*
[07:04] <marx2k> df -Th would work too
[07:04] <helpme> /dev/hda1 on /media/disk type ext3 (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[07:04] <marx2k> "df -Th"
[07:04] <helpme> that's what i get
[07:04] <dystopianray> helpme: it's mounted at /media/disk
[07:04] <phuzion_> forget i said anything, I'm just installing unrar
[07:04] <helpme> ok
[07:04] <helpme> so i'm at ubuntu@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ what do i do
[07:04] <m12> sudo su
[07:04] <Pirate_Hunter> rafaelscj: i did than it updated and now ive got version 0.97 but this version is annoying me cause its asking to install tls, I know weird but its one of those things
[07:04] <marx2k> what are you TRYING to do?
[07:04] <dystopianray> helpme: go into the /media/disk directory
[07:05] <dystopianray> helpme: cd /media/disk
[07:05] <Shmattie> Anyone know how to start a GUI app like mplayer via a cron script?
[07:05] <helpme> ubuntu@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ cd media/disk
[07:05] <helpme> bash: cd: media/disk: No such file or directory
[07:05] <dystopianray> helpme: /media/disk not media/disk
[07:05] <genii> leading slash
[07:05] <marx2k> "man cron"
[07:05] <netham45> sudo -i
[07:05] <netham45> oh, god, that was almost really bad.
[07:05] <rafaelscj> Pirate_Hunter, tls or tcl?
[07:06] <helpme> ok, now how can i log in as root for this drive and make changes in GUI
[07:06] <Pirate_Hunter> rafaelscj: I ahve downloaded the tar file of tls 1.5 and unpacked it but now I have no clue how to run it or even install it, their is no read me file or anything?
[07:06] <netham45> wrong button. :(
[07:06] <dystopianray> helpme: gksudo nautilus
[07:06] <Pirate_Hunter> rafaelscj: TLS for sure
[07:06] <marx2k> Shmattie: "crontab -e"
[07:06] <Evanlec> !build | Pirate_Hunter
[07:06] <ubotu> Pirate_Hunter: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:06] <bluefox83> does anyone know where amarok keeps it's logs?
[07:07] <alloy> Pirate_Hunter, http://www.talklikeapirate.com/
[07:07] <alloy> arr
[07:07] <dialntone> how do you install codecs for amarok...
[07:07] <dystopianray> bluefox83: ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok/
[07:07] <Techone> using easyvmx what is the best config
[07:07] <dystopianray> dialntone: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[07:07] <dialntone> wow
[07:07] <helpme> it made me root of the live cd not of my hard drive
[07:08] <dystopianray> helpme: go to where your hdd is mounted
[07:08] <rafaelscj> Pirate_Hunter, I prefer to install using only synaptics. but there should be a readme file in .tar
[07:08] <benla1> hey dudes, i cant seem to get my wpa wireless security working on my laptop, but it works on the unencrypted neighbors ssid, so can i like, use a different wireless manager? or? specifics:WPApersonal TKIP wpa-psk belkin router
[07:08] <Shmattie> marx2k, That will start GUI apps?  I have mplayer to the /etc/crontab and it never shows up.  Will adding it to that crontab solve the issue?
[07:08] <helpme> i'm in media/disk and i ran that command
[07:08] <Pirate_Hunter> Evanlec: ive read that link before on my first install of ubuntu it just got extra file on my pc and i didnt even compile what i was hoping to compile, heck ill read it again
[07:08] <GNine> bios pnp setting : yes for ubuntu 7.04?
[07:09] <marx2k> Grrr why does Noatun copy over the files I put into the playlist from a remote SMB share rather than streaming them
[07:09] <dystopianray> GNine: i believe it should be 'no' for any OS
[07:09] <CyberMad> does anyone here have experience with mount shared windows folder on ubuntu?
[07:09] <Pirate_Hunter> alloy: as funny as that would seem in a sunny afternoon its too early for me to find anything funny, please dont go offtopic there is a section for that
[07:09] <marx2k> CyberMad:  what do you need to know?
[07:10] <Pirate_Hunter> rafaelscj :nah no read me file but thanx for trying
[07:10] <Evanlec> Pirate_Hunter, usually it goes like untar the file, (double click on it and extract) then use command line, cd /where u extracted, then ./configure, make, make install
[07:10] <rafaelscj> Pirate_Hunter, If I were you I whouldn't update
[07:10] <CyberMad> marx2k do you ever have problem.. when you try save file from ubuntu to mounted folder (windows shared folder), it save as read-only??
[07:11] <helpme> got it! Thank you so much!
[07:11] <CyberMad> i tried this on my fstab: //<IP_ADDRESS>/Shared /mnt/shared cifs auto,user,username=xxxxx,workgroup=xxxxx,password=xxxxx,uid=500,gid=500,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777,rw 0 0
[07:11] <GNine> i have been using ubuntu with bios pnp on for a while..
[07:11] <Pirate_Hunter> rafaelscj: lol thats like not updating m$ XP and thats more messed up than this
[07:11] <dystopianray> GNine: it probably doesn't matter
[07:11] <marx2k> Cyber: Hm, cant help you there :(
[07:12] <CyberMad> np, others can help me?
[07:12] <Pirate_Hunter> Evanlec: I have a rough idea of how to compile but havent done it before just read here and there but thanx will try
[07:12] <phuzion_> how do i unrar but keep the directory structure within the rar file?
[07:12] <GNine> heh
[07:12] <phuzion_> because right now unrar is dumping everthing into the working directory
[07:12] <Evanlec> Pirate_Hunter, but what he's saying is, unless u absolutely have to install from source, try to find a .deb package
[07:12] <zetheroo> any people here from Sydney?
[07:12] <phuzion_> unrar e bup.rar is the command I'm doing
[07:13] <zetheroo> any people here from Sydney, Australia
[07:13] <upgrdman> hello, i have a tv tuner that works best with dvb... how do i install dvb? i do not see a package in synaptic specifically for dvb
[07:13] <rafaelscj> Pirate_Hunter, I always try to install using apt-get/synaptics because I can just "apt-get remove", I think you don't have the builder
[07:14] <Pirate_Hunter> Evanlec: ive got this version through update, synaptic has 0.96 version and if i were to isntall that it would just go back to 0.97 sooner or later due to my next update
[07:14] <dn4> how much time do you think will need to pass before we see a big drop in dual core cpu technologies dropping
[07:14] <marx2k> dn4: you mean pricewise?
[07:15] <dn4> marx2k, yes, i'm wondering because quad and triple cores are coming out
[07:15] <NiYaDo> hey
[07:16] <NiYaDo> alguien aqui habla espanol?
[07:16] <marx2k> dn4: well, youll see a drop when AMD releases the triplecore and another drop when Intel drops the price on its quadcore
[07:16] <picodon> eh? are quads of both out? ive never seen anyone talk tripple
[07:16] <picodon> and duals are pretty cheap now
[07:16] <picodon> as are slower quads for that matter
[07:17] <dn4> marx2k, now I want AMD and Intel to clash in a price war on the quads haha
[07:17] <marx2k> Pichu0102:
[07:17] <marx2k> http://www.vnunet.com/itweek/news/2198898/amd-unveils-triple-core-desktop
[07:17] <dn4> dubbed "Quad Damage"
[07:17] <Evanlec> question is, how well does linux take advantage of quad cores?:
[07:17] <marx2k> well, linux takes advantage of dual cores nicely from my experience
[07:18] <marx2k> (when Im using the dualcores at school)\
[07:18] <Evanlec> yea i spose, the generic kernel supports smp by default i guess
[07:18] <marx2k> htop shows them to handle processes nicely
[07:18] <ddr4> Evanlec, \\o
[07:18] <Evanlec> but the question is how well will software support 4 cores
[07:19] <Pirate_Hunter> quads sorry to interrupt damn im so behind on time, we got quads nowadays?
[07:19] <marx2k> yep
[07:19] <dn4> quads and triples
[07:19] <Evanlec> Pirate_Hunter, yea intel has quad core chips
[07:19] <Evanlec> forget what they're called
[07:19] <marx2k> Evanlec: as long as the OS can nicely divide processing so each core can handle its share of apps, itd be nice
[07:19] <Evanlec> yea true
[07:20] <Evanlec> godo for multi-tasking
[07:20] <ddr4> Pirate_Hunter, your way behind time lol
[07:20] <dn4> wait
[07:20] <AzMoo[w] > What's the name of the ubuntu-desktop package for the server version? I thought it was ubuntu-server, but it doesn't work.
[07:20] <CyberMad> how to make a script to running these commands:  sudo -i with password; umount -a; mount -a ?
[07:20] <Veinor> for some reason, at least once a day, my computer almost totally freezes. I can still move the mouse, and even minimize things b clicking on the taskbar, and my wallpaper cron job ran on schedule, but nothing else works. could this be an issue with compiz-fusion, or is it an issue with my drivers?
[07:20] <Pirate_Hunter> Evanlec: :-0 incredible an dhow much is that forking for? OMG quad processor wow ive been sleeping...
[07:20] <rafaelscj> can anyone tell me a vnc client?
[07:20] <AzMoo[w] > rafaelscj: realvnc
[07:20] <rene> hola
[07:21] <marx2k> CyberMad: put the commands in a plain text file and put #!/bin/bash in the header :)
[07:21] <dn4> marx2k, ETA in an intel-quad-core price drop?
[07:21] <rafaelscj> AzMoo[w] , for linux...
[07:21] <picodon> dell are shipping quad AMD machines in november, optimised for virtualisation
[07:21] <Veinor> vncviewer?
[07:21] <marx2k> dn4: shrug its not like I have the money to even be looking at prices or timelines right now :)
[07:21] <picodon> 'veso' stuff
[07:22] <marx2k> yeah, having one CPU handle just my VMWare XP image would be nice
[07:22] <Pirate_Hunter> ddr4: i know yet have no clue how it happened I guess its been all this spare time
[07:22] <marx2k> though its not slow at all on my old-ass AMD Athlon 2000+ with 1G memory
[07:22] <dn4> marx2k, I'm just wanting to see the ripple effect in the market and have dual core 64 x2 drop
[07:22] <rafaelscj> xvncviewer?
[07:22] <dialntone> you guys are soo pro!
[07:22] <dialntone> thats' for that sudo command earlier..
[07:22] <cEwLaruku> uyku
[07:22] <ddr4> Pirate_Hunter, lol yeah, its like ddr3 ram!
[07:22] <Pirate_Hunter> ddr4: dang still seems like dual proccsessor were least a week ago the memory is still fresh in my head
[07:22] <dn4> marx2k, AMD Athlon 800mhz here
[07:22] <Evanlec> Pirate_Hunter, http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010340343+50001157+1050727216&name=Core+2+Quad
[07:23] <CyberMad> marx2k thanks :)
[07:23] <Veinor> i think xvncviewer = vncviewer
[07:23] <marx2k> yeah... I really dont run anything CPU intensive on any of my linux boxes
[07:23] <dialntone> I was wondering if is there an essential site where ran sudo commands should be ran on a noob ubuntu desktop?
[07:23] <acetech> hey can anyone help on having ubuntu have sound output to my spdif..... please?
[07:23] <marx2k> the closest I get to CPU intensive is XP in a VMWare sandbox but that runs just fine
[07:23] <ddr4> Evanlec, if you can top that off with some ddr3 ram you will be impossible !
[07:23] <Pirate_Hunter> Evanlec: thos eprices aint bad i think there are better than when dual came out
[07:23] <AzMoo[w] > rafaelscj: oooh ;) svncviewer is probably your best bet.
[07:23] <Veinor> for some reason, at least once a day, my computer almost totally freezes. I can still move the mouse, and even minimize things b clicking on the taskbar, and my wallpaper cron job ran on schedule, but nothing else works. could this be an issue with compiz-fusion, or is it an issue with my drivers?
[07:23] <CyberMad> how to do the command sudo -i  with password in single line??  sudo -i mypassword  ??
[07:24] <dn4> marx2k, The orange box (Valve) is coming out soon October 10th so i'm looking to gear up with an overhaul of CPU power
[07:24] <marx2k> dialntone: Huh?
[07:24] <marx2k> acetech: "alsaconfig"
[07:24] <marx2k> whoopa
[07:24] <marx2k> whoops
[07:24] <marx2k> wrong command
[07:24] <marx2k> "alsaconf"
[07:24] <Pirate_Hunter> Evanlec: *correction* Those prices aint bad, i think they are better than when dual came out - "thats much better"
[07:24] <marx2k> AHHH WRONG AGAIN
[07:24] <rafaelscj> AzMoo[w] , thanks
[07:24] <marx2k> "alsamixer"
[07:24] <marx2k> sorry
[07:25] <dialntone> apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[07:25] <sauvin> The company I work for called me into the office today to "explain" to me that they've unilaterally decided I need to learn to live with a 25% pay increase.
[07:25] <marx2k> I think you can get a quadcore intel CPU for about $275 now
[07:25] <dn4> Pirate_Hunter, yeah, 279.99 for a quad core chip seems insanely cheap
[07:25] <Evanlec> marx2k, yep, the 6600
[07:25] <dialntone> you know that sudo command, its really essential to the not so typical user that doesn't know much about linux
[07:25] <marx2k> dn4: yeah but dont you need a new mobo and mem for that too?
[07:25] <CyberMad> marx2k do you know how to do  sudo -i  with password in single line? usually on terminal when i type sudo -i, will request password
[07:25] <dialntone> there' must be a site which addresses a load of sudo commands that a windows user should know when he gets on ubuntu
[07:26] <Evanlec> marx2k, new mobo and ddr2 ram i believe
[07:26] <marx2k> Cyber: I do not
[07:26] <orb> Hey guys I dual booted ubuntu with Windows XP 32 bit, but then I reformatted my windows partition and installed windows 64 bit.  Now GRUB doesn't load when I boot.  How do I get GRUB to load again so I can boot linux?
[07:26] <CyberMad> :) ok
[07:26] <marx2k> Evanlec: and so total price shoots up :/
[07:26] <dn4> marx2k, yeah for most people that is an automatic must have upgrade
[07:26] <marx2k> orb: Windows wipes your MBR
[07:26] <orb> marx2k: MBR? what's that
[07:26] <marx2k> orb: easiest method... download grub rescue disc
[07:26] <marx2k> !grd
[07:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:26] <dystopianray> orb: master boot record
[07:26] <Textbook> dn4: did you check out penumbra?
[07:26] <marx2k> !grub rescue
[07:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grub rescue - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:26] <Pirate_Hunter> dn4: I wouldnt say insanely, but cheap yes but than im behind on times, I dont know how long quads have been on the market thats probably why :(
[07:26] <Evanlec> marx2k, yea, probly another 2-300, so ur talkin 5-600 for quad-core power ;p
[07:26] <orb> okay where do I get a grub recue disk
[07:26] <marx2k> ugh
[07:26] <dn4> Textbook, yes my computer is to slow :(
[07:27] <dystopianray> orb: you can use the ubuntu livecd to reinstall grub
[07:27] <phoenixz> Hi, I just installed kubuntu on a dell latitude d620 laptop. Im trying to view some movies with either mplayer, or kaffeine, but kaffeine shows a black image, and mplayer crashes with "X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)?,?% 0 0"..
[07:27] <orb> I didn't use a livecd, I used the text based installer :\
[07:27] <acetech> marx2k, i have played with gnome alsa mixer and nothing
[07:27] <acetech> marx2k, i am able to get sound from spdif in xmms
[07:27] <phoenixz> I think I installed all drivers correctly (compiz-fusion works perfectly for example)
[07:27] <acetech> marx2k, but not globally in ubuntu
[07:27] <dn4> Pirate_Hunter, I think they hit the market this month
[07:27] <marx2k> acetech: go to terminal and run "alsamixer"
[07:27] <dn4> I could be wrong though
[07:27] <dystopianray> phoenixz: do you have intel video?
[07:27] <marx2k> orb:
[07:28] <orb> marx2k do you know where I can get a grub rescue disk
[07:28] <marx2k> http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Recovery/GRUB-Disk-15969.shtml
[07:28] <orb> thanks!
[07:28] <marx2k> no problem
[07:28] <dystopianray> orb: just boot the ubuntu livecd
[07:28] <orb> so I boot with that and it'll fix it?
[07:28] <GNine> set PnP to NO in BIOS.  everything still normal.  how about resetting ESCD? how safe would that be for ubuntu
[07:28] <orb> dystopianray: i don't have a livecd
[07:28] <marx2k> orb: theres a menu system but its self explanatory
[07:28] <dystopianray> orb: get one
[07:28] <marx2k> GNine: thatd be fine
[07:28] <dystopianray> orb: any linux livecd will do
[07:28] <orb> marx2k: so it's a deb file, how do I boot with it
[07:29] <dystopianray> GNine: resetting the escd shoudlnt' affect linux
[07:29] <Evanlec> GNine, why are u trying to do that?
[07:29] <dialntone> anyone know the common sudo apt-get installs' must used
[07:29] <orb> marx2k: i didn't think deb files were cd images
[07:29] <marx2k> GNine: I have ubuntu installed on a 160G USB drive that I move from computer to computer with no problem, so wiping the ESCD and having the mobo reinit it should be fine
[07:29] <dialntone> most,. used  im a linux beginner
[07:29] <GNine> heh
[07:29] <Evanlec> oh ;p
[07:29] <Pirate_Hunter> dn4: Not bad intel is gaining some brains they've selling products at reasonable prices but than if they dont AMD will hahahaha - yet i was expecting quads to reach the 4.0GHz speed not 2 - 3GHz with over cloacking
[07:29] <dystopianray> dialntone: just type 'apt-get' and press enter
[07:30] <marx2k> oh thats weird, what happened to the ISO image they had up there...
[07:30] <orb> marx2k: how do I boot from that deb file?
[07:30] <phoenixz> dystopianray, intel 945 chipset yeah, if you mean that
[07:30] <Evanlec> Pirate_Hunter, the intel core duo is a new architecture, throwing away the netburst architecture of the Pentium line, the new architecture is quite a bit faster, but does not clock as high as the netburst architecture
[07:30] <dn4> Pirate_Hunter, ahh, yeah it is weird how all of a sudden cpus starting going up in hz really fast, then it seems to of capped off around 2-3Ghz, its weird.
[07:30] <paddu> hi
[07:30] <phoenixz> I think I have all (most?) drivers ok instaled, compiz-fusion works like a charm, for example
[07:31] <dialntone> how would i know which will work with what ?
[07:31] <dystopianray> phoenixz: add 'Option "LinearAlloc" "8160"' to the device section of your xorg.conf
[07:31] <upgrdman> what file do i put a modules name in so that it will modprobe it at bootup
[07:31] <orb> marx2k how do I make a boot disk out of that deb file
[07:31] <Evanlec> dn4, the mhz barrier has been reached to some degree, which is why processors are now being built with more cores and not more mhz
[07:31] <phoenixz> dystopianray, that is like a standard fix for this?
[07:31] <dystopianray> upgrdman: /etc/modules
[07:32] <dystopianray> phoenixz: should be, do that then restart X
[07:32] <Pirate_Hunter> dn4: but than they might have been aiming at lower speeds and higher threading considering how many tasks quad can handle
[07:32] <marx2k> orb: http://geocities.com/supergrubdisk/
[07:32] <CyberMad> i already make script on text file: #!/bin/bash  sudo -s  umount -a  mount -a, how to run that script on double click the file?
[07:32] <upgrdman> dystopianray: thx
[07:32] <orb> thx marx
[07:32] <dn4> Evanlec, do you know wher eto find papers on that, as to what the barrier actually is that limits the cpu
[07:33] <marx2k> CyberMad: : im not sure how youd do that WITH password auto-supplied
[07:33] <punsad> dn4: transistor gatelength for one
[07:33] <Evanlec> dn4, im not an expert on it, but the problem comes to a few things, mainly heat, size, and power requirement
[07:33] <marx2k> punsad == WAY over my head :D
[07:33] <Pirate_Hunter> Evanlec: hmm I see ok i might even be able to see a 1 terrabyte processor in my life time if this continues like this, but than is that even possible?
[07:33] <CyberMad> geez..
[07:33] <CyberMad> marx2k yes.. i'm confuse.. i will do google
[07:34] <Evanlec> Pirate_Hunter, that may be possible, but at the moment it appears it is not cost-effective to continue to madly up the clock rate
[07:34] <punsad> dn4: now I'm curious - why do you want to know about cpu speed limitations - just curiousity?
[07:34] <acetech> marx2k, i have IEC958 set to 00, IEC958 P set to 67, also PCM, channel mode is on 2...
[07:34] <Evanlec> Pirate_Hunter, the core duo architecture sacrifices pure clock speed for more instructions per cycle
[07:35] <ryugaka> crap guys i'm just finding out there's more than 40gb hd's out there don't talk to me about faster cpu's!
[07:35] <dn4> punsad, curiousity indeed
[07:35] <Evanlec> Pirate_Hunter, it has a shorter pipeline which means it executes faster but cannot clock as well as pentium 4's netburst architecture which has a very long pipeline
[07:35] <Pirate_Hunter> Evanlec: I understand what you mean, as much as everyone would like mad speeds on processors I guess the distribution of data process/handling is much more efficient
[07:35] <dystopianray> ryugaka: they're already up to 1TB with hdds
[07:35] <ryugaka> i know
[07:35] <watercooler> who likes to help fix Xorg's shortcomings?
[07:36] <watercooler> http://pastebin.com/m975f7ac
[07:36] <ryugaka> i had like a 160gb hd and i never knew what to do with it.
[07:36] <picodon> they still measure hard drives in gigabytes?
[07:36] <ryugaka> i'm so use to 10gb's and like sacrificing space.
[07:36] <z0rz> Is there a simple command to run to check to see which file has been changed in a directory (including subdirectories)?
[07:36] <dystopianray> z0rz: changed compared to what?
[07:36] <punsad> dn4: by the way, transistor gate length is just the distance between the two electrodes of a transistor (i.e. how far the electrons have to travel from one electrode to another
[07:36] <mindrape> z0rz - if you use tripwire mebbe
[07:36] <Evanlec> Pirate_Hunter, clock rate does not equal speed, just look at how AMD's chips were equivalent to Pentium 4's even tho they were usually clocked 1ghz less
[07:37] <z0rz> Damn it.. I hate it when I ask the wrong question.. but I guess I'd like to know the answer to that one too..
[07:37] <z0rz> dystopianray: I just wanted to look at what lines in a file changed..
[07:37] <marx2k> CyberMad: I think your answer lies with piping info to the command but I dont know how to do it specifically
[07:37] <dystopianray> z0rz: changed compared to what though?
[07:37] <Pirate_Hunter> Evanlec: didn't know that just learnt something new but than do people even overclock dual cores?
[07:38] <z0rz> dystopianray: To it's previous state..
[07:38] <Pirate_Hunter> Evanlec: ok got you
[07:38] <fotoflo> hey can gunzip unzip a regular .zip file or only .gz files?
[07:38] <Evanlec> Pirate_Hunter, sure they do
[07:38] <sven_oostenbrink> dystopianray, well, video seems to be working now but... now i dont have compiz-fusion anymore :(
[07:38] <punsad> fotoflo: I don't think it can do zip files
[07:38] <z0rz> dystopianray: Like I could copy a direcotyr cp -R ~ ~/homebackup
[07:38] <marx2k> fotoflo: gunzip should be able to do zip
[07:38] <dystopianray> z0rz: make a copy the current state and use diff to see if/when it changes
[07:38] <Evanlec> Pirate_Hunter, i have a Pentium D (dual core) clocked at 3.0ghz from 2.8ghz stock
[07:38] <acetech> marx2k, any suggestions?
[07:38] <z0rz> dystopianray: Nice..
[07:38] <dystopianray> sven_oostenbrink: did you setup compiz-fusion to start automatically on login?
[07:38] <z0rz> Alright how about this one..
[07:38] <punsad> dn4: unzip is available through apt-get
[07:38] <Pirate_Hunter> Evanlec: hmm interesting very nice
[07:39] <dialntone> ubuntu's Deskto Effect isn't allowing rotation its' not doing it anymore
[07:39] <punsad> oops that was for fotoflo
[07:39] <marx2k> To extract a zip file with a single member, use a command like gunzip <foo.zip or
[07:39] <marx2k>        gunzip -S .zip foo.zip.  To extract zip files with several members, use unzip instead of gunzip.
[07:39] <dialntone> how do i reinstall it?
[07:39] <GNine> BIOS PnP setting deactivated. ESCD cleared. system still 100% operational. i even noticed a slight process (..) speed
[07:39] <z0rz> I'm using sysklogd to recieve logs from a remote client.  How do I specify where the client's log files are stored?  Currently they are being mixed in with my currnet system logs....
[07:39] <Veinor> for some reason, at least once a day, my computer almost totally freezes. I can still move the mouse, and even minimize things b clicking on the taskbar, and my wallpaper cron job ran on schedule, but nothing else works. could this be an issue with compiz-fusion, or is it an issue with my drivers?
[07:39] <marx2k> GNine: I bet youre imagining that :)
[07:39] <dystopianray> GNine: bios pnp probably only matters for ISA devices
[07:39] <dystopianray> GNine: there is no change in speed
[07:39] <fotoflo> what can i use for gzip on windows?
[07:39] <dystopianray> GNine: that is purely imaginary
[07:39] <marx2k> Veinor: can you reset the X server?
[07:40] <z0rz> fotoflo: 7zip.sf.net
[07:40] <GNine> wishful thinking here.. i need it.. go away
[07:40] <GNine> j/k
[07:40] <GNine> :-P
[07:40] <marx2k> :)
[07:40] <dystopianray> GNine: your changes are insignificant and irrelevant, they'll have no effect on linux
[07:40] <sven_oostenbrink> dystopianray, Im phoenixz again, just under other name.. but well, video seems to be working now but... now i dont have compiz-fusion anymore :(
[07:40] <stevenu> hi ... I am trying to install 7.04 on an dell inspiron 1520 from the alt install cd (as per the forums) but I get an error while trying to install the kernel into the target system
[07:40] <z0rz> fotoflo: http://sevenzip.sf.net
[07:40] <punsad> fotoflo: 7zip is great.  it can also unrar
[07:40] <fotoflo> will a standard ubuntu distrib unrar?
[07:40] <stevenu> can anyone help ?
[07:40] <GNine> i feel better tho
[07:40] <acetech> marx2k, do you think this is something that an asound configuration would be needed?
[07:40] <GNine> heh
[07:41] <z0rz> What should I give my sister for unzipping?
[07:41] <dystopianray> stevenu: you need to give us the error
[07:41] <dystopianray> z0rz: what is she unzipping?
[07:41] <marx2k> z0rz: a brassiere
[07:41] <marx2k> sorry, too easy
[07:41] <GNine> at least acpi is not acting up .. again
[07:41] <Veinor> marx2k: nothing short of ctrl-alt-sysrq works
[07:41] <marx2k> acetech: I wouldnt know :(
[07:41] <punsad> fotoflo: apt-cache search unrar ... indicates so
[07:41] <dn4> punsad, any idea on the smallest transistor gate length?
[07:41] <dn4> 6nm?
[07:41] <z0rz> marx2k, dystopianray: ,5
[07:41] <z0rz> err http://bash.org/?23601
[07:42] <stevenu> "an error was returned whil trying to install the kernel into the target system kernel package linux-generic
[07:42] <marx2k> Veinor: Hmmmm I had that problem a few months ago... I wonder... does it happen during network file transfers over NFS by any chance?
[07:42] <marx2k> Veinor: also, are you running compiz-fusion?
[07:42] <punsad> dn4: intel is working on ramping 45nm (this is .045um, a human hair is 250 um)
[07:42] <dystopianray> z0rz: what OS is she running and what file are you wanting to unzip?
[07:42] <stevenu> on the console 4 says exting on error base-installer/kernel/failed-install
[07:42] <marx2k> punsad: and yet, my garbageman can't collect the trash without leaving the bin in the street...amazing
[07:42] <z0rz> dystopianray: Nevermind.. I was kidding.
[07:43] <Veinor> marx2k: no and yes, in thar order.
[07:43] <patbam> hi, is there a gui thing for setting up tasks with gnome?
[07:43] <z0rz> But I would like to know how to change the location the sysklogd saves my remote logs
[07:43] <Pirate_Hunter> well ive learnt plenty today, quads are out which is amazing, learnt new things about dual core and amsn still not working even after clean install from synaptic, its early in the morning and i suffering from information overload so going back to bed im not a geek yet to live without sleep lol
[07:43] <punsad> dn4: they are working on 32nm.  AMD has 65nm in production
[07:43] <patbam> i mean, an interface for cron
[07:43] <z0rz> that*
[07:43] <Pirate_Hunter> Good Bye ppl
[07:43] <marx2k> Veinor: Im trying to remember how I fixed my issue... are you in Gnome on Feisty?
[07:43] <Veinor> marx2k: yes
[07:43] <dn4> punsad, ahh in production
[07:43] <Pirate_Hunter> Evanlec: see you next time i come on
[07:43] <marx2k> nvidia?? ati?
[07:43] <punsad> dn4: on windows... theres a great program called cpuz that tells you what technology node your cpu is
[07:44] <dn4> punsad, I was reading reports where IBM had a working 6nm transitor
[07:44] <marx2k> punsad: whats that mean?
[07:44] <marx2k> Whatever happened to the idea they had about making cpu cubes with 3 dimensions of circuitry?
[07:44] <punsad> dn4: getting one working is great.. for a working cpu, you need hundreds of millions on one chip
[07:44] <dystopianray> marx2k: it's still being researched
[07:45] <punsad> marx2k: what does what mean
[07:45] <marx2k> still?! This was like back in 95 or something
[07:45] <punsad> technology node?
[07:45] <marx2k> punsad: : "technology node"
[07:45] <Veinor> marx2k: could it be beryl/compiz? or could it be a driver issue?
[07:45] <GNine> chipset architecture?
[07:46] <marx2k> Veinor: Well, rule them out one by one... I'd suggest killing your .compiz config dor
[07:46] <marx2k> dir
[07:46] <stevenu> I am able to go back and try the install base system step again and it is asking about installing on an unclean target is that worth trying ?
[07:46] <punsad> the major technology nodes are like 0.18um, 0.090um, 0.065 um... again - this refers to gate length
[07:46] <Veinor> marx2k: or just using metacity instead?
[07:46] <stevenu> Or should I try the 7.10 betas ?
[07:46] <punsad> 0.090um for example = 90nm
[07:46] <magnetron> Hi! This channel is for support, #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. please join us in #ubuntu-offtopic!
[07:46] <marx2k> punsad:  why would you need to know that?
[07:47] <marx2k> Veinor: kill your compiz config dir
[07:47] <marx2k> then restart config
[07:47] <punsad> I don't need to.. It's my job... I'm a semiconductor process engineer
[07:47] <marx2k> I think thats how I did it, actually
[07:47] <Brazenhead> hey, was wondering if anyone could help me with a dual-linux dual-hdd boot... grub is complaining
[07:47] <Veinor> then restart what?
[07:47] <punsad> I will stop offtopic banter now
[07:47] <marx2k> punsad: well why would I need to know that?
[07:47] <marx2k> :D
[07:47] <z0rz> When are the message files rotated?
[07:47] <marx2k> Veinor: compiz
[07:48] <magnetron> punsad: please don't stop, continue it in #u-o
[07:48] <marx2k> via ALT+F2 and then "compiz --replace && emerald --replace"
[07:48] <z0rz> e.g. /var/log/messages is 2.7mb .. when does it turn into messages..1.gz ?
[07:48] <magnetron> !grub | Brazenhead
[07:48] <ubotu> Brazenhead: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:49] <GNine> punk
[07:49] <Brazenhead> ubotu: I'm not using windows... it's a ubuntustudio and an ubuntu install
[07:49] <Veinor> marx2k: ah, you think it might be one of the plugins or something?
[07:49] <marx2k> oh man how is it still 71F outside :(
[07:49] <Brazenhead> !grub
[07:49] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:49] <marx2k> Veinor: probably
[07:49] <marx2k> give it a shot
[07:49] <Veinor> will do
[07:49] <slackorama> when I run emacs in xterm via 'emacs -nw' it thinks I'm typing M-8 when I hit M-x.  emacs in windowed mode doesn't have this problem, nor does emacs -nw under gnome-terminal
[07:49] <marx2k> I think thats how I fixed my problem
[07:49] <doug__> how do i make xchat connect to a ircirc.p2p-network.net so i can join a chan not inside xchat?
[07:49] <tgelter> does grub work with Vista?
[07:50] <marx2k> I originally thought my mobo was overheating or something
[07:50] <marx2k> tgelter: yes
[07:50] <z0rz> Brazenhead: The easiest way I have found to do that is to boot a livecd such as sysrescuecd or gparted live (I had problems with the ubuntu live cd for some reason) .. and run gparted to look to see which drive has the boot flag.  If that drive is sdb2 then grub sees it as hd1,1 .. if it's sda1 then grub sees it as hd0,0
[07:50] <marx2k> doug__: /server <server>
[07:50] <tgelter> marx2k: thanks
[07:50] <doug__> marx2k:  thanks
[07:51] <Tigran> hey
[07:51] <QC_Failed> Is there anything I need to know before installing Wolfenstein enemy territory on Ubuntu Edgy?
[07:51] <Veinor> marx2k: is there any sort of log file I could check?
[07:51] <z0rz> Brazenhead: So after you find out which drive has the boot flag.. type grub.. and then at the grub prompt type root(hdX,X) and then type find /boot/grub/stage1 then type setup (hdX)
[07:51] <Tigran> I installed the new nvidia driver 100. something, and now when I boot up it says FAiled to start X server
[07:51] <marx2k> Veinor: I wish.. I spent days trying to track down a log file that would tell me the deal
[07:51] <z0rz> Brazenhead: Replace X with your drive
[07:51] <GNine> QC_Failed, this is feisty
[07:51] <Tigran> Is there any way to go back to previous driver
[07:52] <marx2k> Tigran: NVidia is funny that way... for some reason with the binary NVidia driver, I have to install it on every reboot
[07:52] <Brazenhead> thanks z0rz
[07:52] <marx2k> but Envy worked so I dont have to do that
[07:52] <marx2k> !tigran | envy
[07:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tigran - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:52] <marx2k> !envy
[07:52] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[07:52] <QC_Failed> GNine, Edgy is still supported
[07:52] <marx2k> aparrently I dont know how to use the bot :)
[07:52] <Brazenhead> z0rz: how can I boot into the grub prompt?
[07:52] <QC_Failed> And, I run Edgy
[07:53] <QC_Failed> Let me repeat my question:
[07:53] <Tigran> marx2k....what?
[07:53] <QC_Failed> Anyway, is there anything I need to know?
[07:53] <marx2k> Tigran: http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[07:53] <marx2k> It worked for me, but I cant garuantee it will work for you
[07:54] <marx2k> QC: WHats the question?
[07:54] <QC_Failed> I have a rock solid stable Xorg, gdm, and NVIDIA 100.14.19
[07:54] <QC_Failed> I understand
[07:54] <GNine> something about installing a game
[07:54] <QC_Failed> I was just asking for pointers
[07:54] <marx2k> QC_Failed: youre probably better off searching the forums for that
[07:55] <QC_Failed> I am nervous about installing a game on Linux for the first time
[07:55] <marx2k> Why?
[07:55] <marx2k> if it doesnt work, delete it :)
[07:55] <GNine> virgin.. sexy
[07:55] <QC_Failed> It is rumored that Linux doesn't support games
[07:55] <mindrape> he is afraid he'll get adidcted and never leave his house
[07:55] <marx2k> it supports games written for it :)
[07:55] <z0rz> Brazenhead: use a live cd.  Again, I suggest http://systemrescuecd.sf.net or http://gparted.sf.net (get the live cd) .. if you must boot from the Ubuntu CD then you'll need to follow this guide: :
[07:55] <Veinor> i also decided to add a launcher that runs 'killall x-session-manager' to see if that works
[07:55] <z0rz> Sweet way to leave Brazenhead
[07:55] <BlogueroConnor> hello, I read JeOS announcement in Ubuntu page but there is no download link. Where is it?
[07:56] <QC_Failed> HOwever I know in the last two years Linux has come a very long way... I used to not even be able to get my screen resolution working, but Ubuntu gave me 3D Acceleration and a lot of stuff just worked out of the box
[07:56] <marx2k> Veinor: Im thinking removing the default config dir and restarting compiz will do it for you
[07:56] <magnetron> BlogueroConnor: it will be released together with Gutsy if i remember correctly
[07:56] <marx2k> QC, I would suggest just trying it.. its not like it will kill your system or anything
[07:56] <BlogueroConnor> magnetron, so in October?
[07:56] <QC_Failed> I hear Gusty has no proprietary driver support
[07:56] <Tigran> marx2k: what do I put for generic in sudo apt-get install linux-generic
[07:56] <QC_Failed> Is that true?
[07:56] <magnetron> BlogueroConnor: October 18
[07:57] <Tigran> its ubuntu feisty 7.04
[07:57] <magnetron> QC_Failed: it has
[07:57] <BlogueroConnor> magnetron, thanx
[07:57] <GNine> neither does feisty or .. edgy
[07:57] <marx2k> Tigran: Umm....
[07:57] <QC_Failed> I am going to upgrade to Fiesty very soon (before Gusty)
[07:57] <Veinor> ok, hopefully this'll work
[07:57] <magnetron> !offtopic
[07:57] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:57] <marx2k> Im not sure what youre tyring to do
[07:57] <QC_Failed> I don't want to loose my update support
[07:57] <Veinor> and if it doesn't, we'll see if gutsy fixes it
[07:57] <Tigran> nvm marx2k
[07:58] <marx2k> ok :)
[07:58] <Veinor> it doesn't seem to be freezing when i'm not using it, maybe that's a sign
[07:58] <marx2k> Veinor: its probably a setting you have/had in the config
[07:58] <GNine> gutsy got me  nervous with that report of having compiz integrated...
[07:58] <GNine> :-/
[07:58] <marx2k> Tigran: "uname -r"
[07:58] <QC_Failed> I would prefer Compiz be off by default
[07:59] <magnetron> GNine: please join us in #ubuntu-offtopic :D
[07:59] <marx2k> QC: Same here
[07:59] <Tigran> yea marx2k, i saw it after i asked
[07:59] <GNine> am a decepticon too , magnetron
[07:59] <Tigran> marx2k: but it says package now found
[07:59] <QC_Failed> Ubuntu is getting to the point where stuff I only dreamed about last summer is going to be available to the masses without the need for editing any config files
[07:59] <marx2k> Tigran: not sure :(
[07:59] <antler> starscreams rocks
[07:59] <antler> starscream*
[07:59] <marx2k> :)
[07:59] <genii> Hmm, interesting http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-gadget/video-ubuntu-linux-running-on-sony-ericsson-p990i
[07:59] <marx2k> dont forget to restart compiz
[08:00] <Veinor> i did
[08:00] <QC_Failed> I remember Daper 6.06.1 LTS with XGL and a special GDM session to run a broken Beryl
[08:00] <Tigran> I screwed it up before I printed homework...lol
[08:01] <OrTigaS> uy
[08:01] <QC_Failed> Do any of you remeber when you had to work hard to get the Cube working?
[08:01] <QC_Failed> i.e. manually make changes to make it work?
[08:03] <QC_Failed> Is there any way to run Macintosh Apps on Ubuntu?
[08:03] <Tigran> marx2k: any other way to fix this?
[08:04] <chris_> has anyone used moto4lin?
[08:05] <orb> hey I'm trying to install some nvidia drivers but when I do it says X has to be closed to install them.  how do I close X to install the drivers?
[08:06] <dystopianray> orb: you shouldn't need to close X to install drivers
[08:06] <Tigran> marx2k: OH YEA
[08:06] <orb> hrm well that's what it says
[08:06] <Tigran> sory haha
[08:06] <Tigran> fixed
[08:06] <Tigran> thanks marx2k
[08:06] <marx2k> Huh?
[08:06] <Tigran> I can login again
[08:06] <marx2k> oh... yeah... ok :)
[08:06] <marx2k> excellent :)
[08:07] <marx2k> did Envy do it for you?
[08:07] <Tigran> yea
[08:07] <marx2k> yeah it works for me every time too
[08:07] <marx2k> I love it
[08:07] <Tigran> How do I check what video driver I have?
[08:07] <marx2k> ummm
[08:07] <marx2k> youre nvidia?
[08:07] <QC_Failed> http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/avl/pics/Anal_Exams.jpg
[08:08] <Tigran> yea
[08:08] <marx2k> "nvidia-settings"
[08:08] <orb> dystoprianray: ERROR: You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before installing.  For further details, please see the section INSTALLING THE NVIDIA DRIVER in the README available on the Linux driver download page at www.nvidia.com
[08:08] <Myrtti> QC_Failed: please, keep that on #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:08] <Myrtti> !offtopic | QC_Failed
[08:08] <ubotu> QC_Failed: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:08] <dystopianray> orb: how strange, i gues you'll need to close X then
[08:09] <orb> so how do I close X
[08:09] <chris_> has anyone used moto4lin?
[08:09] <marx2k> orb: close X and try it again
[08:09] <dystopianray> orb: or find a way to make it ignore that check
[08:09] <dystopianray> orb: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[08:09] <z0rz> When you right click an iso file.. what's it say excatly about burning? (I'm documenting soething and my ubuntu box doesn't have a burner)
[08:09] <marx2k> orb: ALT+CTRL+F1 and type "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[08:09] <orb> shit i closed the wrong terminal, what was that command to close X again?
[08:09] <marx2k> hahaha
[08:09] <marx2k> orb: ALT+CTRL+F1 and type "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[08:09] <chris_> HAS ANYONE USED MOTO4LIN?
[08:10] <chris_> lol
[08:10] <marx2k> whats moto4lin
[08:10] <z0rz> I KNOW I HAVEN'T
[08:10] <chris_> darn.  can't get the thing to read my file list
[08:10] <marx2k> oh, for motorola phones
[08:10] <chris_> [error]  Unable to get file list
[08:10] <marx2k> I havent used it
[08:10] <marx2k> though it looks like the package for it is in the repositories
[08:10] <Zorlin> Hi everyone! :)
[08:11] <Zorlin> Ready to help if I can.
[08:12] <chris_> Zorlin: have you used moto4lin?
[08:12] <Zorlin> chris_: No, sorry =(
[08:12] <Prez_> hello
[08:12] <bbryant> hey, I'm having a problem printing with a brother printer
[08:12] <Zorlin> Motorola software? O.o
[08:12] <Prez_> whre do I see what version of ubuntu is running on a pc, sorta like redhat-release file on redhat distros?
[08:12] <marx2k> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=site%3Aubuntuforums.org+moto4lin+&btnG=Google+Search
[08:12] <Zorlin> heh. sounds good.
[08:12] <Danavas> how can i install ubuntu from a thumbdrive?
[08:12] <orb_> fuckin... as soon as I pressed alt_ctrl_f1 it brought me to this weird command line i couldn't get out of :\
[08:12] <bbryant> cups keeps giving the error cupsdAuthorize: Local authentication certificate not found!
[08:13] <ArmedKing> Can i ask a Question about nvidia drivers from nvidia.com please?
[08:13] <marx2k> Danavas: from or to?
[08:13] <Danavas> from
[08:13] <marx2k> orb: thats your TTY terminal
[08:13] <Zorlin> I think you follow that guide to put it on a thumbdrive...
[08:13] <Zorlin> and then you boot into the thumbdrive
[08:13] <fermatstheorem> !nv
[08:13] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:13] <Danavas> i have no blank cds and am doing an ubuntu reinstall
[08:13] <Zorlin> and type sudo apt-get.. erm
[08:13] <fermatstheorem> ArmedKing: !nv
[08:13] <Zorlin> the name of the installer, lemme think of it
[08:13] <Zorlin> !installer
[08:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about installer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:13] <orb_> marx2k: well I pressed it before reading your stuff
[08:13] <Danavas> from windwos
[08:13] <Danavas> unfortunately
[08:13] <marx2k> orb: heh
[08:13] <marx2k> orb: log into there and kill your x server
[08:14] <marx2k> or you might want to try the Envy script...
[08:14] <Zorlin> Ooh. :P
[08:14] <orb_> how do you kill an x server
[08:14] <ArmedKing> fermatstheorem: Sorry but my Hardware is not yet supported by any of the usual nvidia drivers in Linux so i have to use the nvidia.com drivers
[08:14] <marx2k> http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[08:14] <fermatstheorem> marx2k: wowo let us not get all violent...
[08:14] <chris_> moto....4.....lin....
[08:14] <marx2k> kekeke
[08:14] <marx2k> oh man.. I cant believe I used kekeke
[08:14] <fermatstheorem> ArmedKing: ok
[08:14] <marx2k> time to get off of here and go jog a little
[08:14] <AzMoo[w] > Can anybody recommend a pci scsi raid card that doesn't suck? I've got this adaptec thing at the moment which apparently only pretends it's hardware raid.
[08:14] <Zorlin> Here: http://pendrivelinux.com/2007/01/25/usb-x-ubuntu-610
[08:14] <fermatstheorem> ArmedKing: it is quite an elaborate process..
[08:15] <ArmedKing> I succesfully installed Nvidia drivers from nvidia.com in Ubuntu Fiesty Fawn. I have one problem tho. Every time i do a Hard Reboot the driver is lost and i have to reinstall it from terminal each time i do that.
[08:15] <Zorlin> Try that guide for the pendrive... then you just have to install the actual installer from Apt.
[08:15] <lubica> lubica.c
[08:15] <ArmedKing> fermatstheorem: Yeah tell me about it :p
[08:15] <marx2k> ArmedKing: http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[08:15] <fermatstheorem> ArmedKing: did you recompile the kernel to include the nv modules?
[08:15] <AzMoo[w] > ArmedKing: add the module to /etc/modules
[08:16] <ArmedKing> Guys, my hardware doesnt work with nv ;-) module name for nvidia.com drivers is nvidia
[08:16] <fermatstheorem> has anybody installed ubuntu in macbok pro successfuly
[08:17] <fermatstheorem> ArmedKing: put that module in the /etc/modules as told by AzMoo[w]  and edit your xorg.conf to put "nvidia" instead of watever is there
[08:18] <ArmedKing> K i'll give it a go, Tnx for the support even tho it's not the ubuntu way of doing it.
[08:18] <fermatstheorem> ArmedKing: it is the linux way of doing it. compile a device drive,r put it in the modules directory and edit the required conf file
[08:19] <linuxemacs> does anybody can type capital characters in tty?(ubuntu 7.04)
[08:20] <leladia> pls where do i find cshrc in ubuntu 7.04
[08:20] <dystopianray> leladia: there isn't one by default
[08:20] <linuxemacs> leladia, do you have install cs terminal?
[08:20] <linuxemacs> you must create it by yourself, i think.
[08:20] <leladia> i installed csh
[08:21] <dystopianray> leladia: there may be one in /etc/skel/
[08:21] <linuxemacs> vi .cshrc, create it.
[08:21] <fermatstheorem> leladia: cshrc may be available .cshrc in your~/
[08:21] <getoo> I'm using ERC Version 5.2 with GNU Emacs 22.1.1 (i386-apple-darwin8.10.1, Mac Carbon) of 2007-07-21.
[08:21] <fermatstheorem> leladia: if not available, create one
[08:21] <leladia> let me check
[08:22] <linuxemacs> yes, touch .cshrc in your home directory
[08:22] <fermatstheorem> linuxemacs: aint emacs an OS ? why should you be redundant with the anme
[08:22] <linuxemacs> does anybody can type caps characters in ttyp mode?
[08:22] <samri> hello all
[08:23] <linuxemacs> my kernel is 7.04
[08:23] <samri> Any Hellanzb users here?
[08:23] <linuxemacs> i couldn't type any caps character in tty.
[08:23] <linuxemacs> why? does anybody can help me?
[08:24] <linuxemacs> fermatstheorem, can you help me?
[08:24] <dystopianray> linuxemacs: did you hold down shift?
[08:25] <linuxemacs> no, if i wanna type caps characters, i must hold down shift and type alpha.
[08:25] <magnetron> ?
[08:25] <Sean__> Anyone on here, using ubuntu 7.04 on a virtual PC?
[08:26] <samri> are you sure tty isn't running with the argument -A, --no-capitalize?
[08:26] <dystopianray> linuxemacs: so you can type caps if you hold shift?
[08:26] <linuxemacs> if i hold down caps lock key. the lcd light, but i couldn't type any caps characters.
[08:26] <samri> are you sure tty isn't running with the argument -A, --no-capitalize?
[08:26] <dystopianray> linuxemacs: you don't hold down caps lock, it's a toggle
[08:27] <linuxemacs> dystopianray, i press the caps lock key, but i couldn't type any caps characters. if i wanna type caps characters , i must press shift key(hold down) and press any alpha key.
[08:28] <nas_> i would like to know which hp printer 3 in 1 is well supported by ubuntu%C9
[08:28] <linuxemacs> i don't know whether it is a bug of ubuntu 7.04?
[08:28] <techone> looking for someone knowledge-able with VMware
[08:28] <dystopianray> linuxemacs: does the caps lock led light up on your keyboard?
[08:28] <ArmedKing> marx2k: Tnx dude, That envy script did the trick ;-)
[08:29] <linuxemacs> yes, the caps lock led is light.
[08:29] <faileas> techone: used it a fair bit.. or you can try #vmware
[08:30] <linuxemacs> my laptop is thinkpad t60. kernel is 2.20.x. ubuntu 7.04
[08:31] <techone> ok, problem is the inital load
[08:32] <faileas> techone: you mean the installation?
[08:32] <samri> does anyone here use HellaNZB?
[08:32] <techone> yes, loaded fine on my desktop, but on my laptop it says cpu not supported for long scrpit
[08:32] <techone> hence the 32 version and 64 bit
[08:32] <meezyfuh> hey, does anyone know a good mud client for gnome?
[08:33] <techone> but the laptop is a AMD 64 x2
[08:33] <faileas> long script? o0
[08:33] <faileas> you mean 64 bit support?
[08:33] <techone> yes, says to revert back to 32 bit distrobution
[08:33] <ogamiitto> Evolution mail is unable to filter any singles spam message, i've been training it for months, but no spam filtering, any clues?
[08:33] <nas_> no one able to answer me about hp printer 3 in 1
[08:34] <faileas> that needs (for amd) a pacifica enabled chip
[08:34] <orb> okay so I'm trying to reconfigure X cause the drivers are all fucked up but every time I try to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg it gives me the error "Package `xserver-xorg' is not installed and no info is available."
[08:34] <techone> interesting
[08:34] <meezyfuh> ill probably just install wine and run a windows mud client
[08:34] <faileas> or a VT enabled intel
[08:35] <orb> does anyone know how to fix this problem?
[08:35] <faileas> techone: wouldn't happen to be dualbooting would you? there's a test app vmware has, but its windows only
[08:35] <techone> no
[08:35] <techone> too much of a pain
[08:35] <tigerz> hi guys, any one has problem with gnome-terminal on gusty?
[08:36] <orb> wtf how can it tell me xserver-xorg isn't installed if I'm running X right now
[08:36] <techone> yeah well thats what I wanted to do is use vmware to run it off of
[08:36] <penguincentral> !language | orb
[08:36] <ubotu> orb: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:36] <faileas> techone: that means windows host?
[08:37] <dystopianray> !gutsy | tigerz
[08:37] <ubotu> tigerz: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[08:37] <orb> sorryy, but I just don't understand linux at all
[08:37] <orb> it's extremely frustrating
[08:37] <tigerz> thanks
[08:37] <ArmedKing> orb: What if you install the package?
[08:37] <orb> i tried,
[08:37] <techone> yes, but should I be running vmware player or another one of there apps
[08:37] <nickname632> Hello all,
[08:37] <mindrape> orb - buy a book...
[08:37] <orb> sudo apt-get install xserver-org
[08:37] <orb> didn't work
[08:37] <vancomycin> hi i was wonder - on occasion, i notice my laptop screen flicker for a split second - it happens every now and then - just curious as to what might be causing this? i haven't installed any themes (i.e. from gnome-look / or compiz fusion) however, i do have the wobble and cube enabled from the fiesty desktop effects option. i am using the nvidia restricted drivers which i selected from the system option - i am on a intell core 2 duo
[08:37] <vancomycin> 2.0 ghz laptop w/ 1gb ram and using a nvidia geforce 7600go w/ 256mb dedicated ram - 3d rendering in terminal said "yes" when i checked - the forum search didn't provide me with an exact reason as to why this might happen - i'm a first time user running on a dual boot w/ xp. any ideas or suggestions?
[08:37] <dystopianray> orb: what was the error?
[08:37] <nickname632> WTF spam
[08:38] <samri> nobody using HellaNZB? Doh =/
[08:38] <penguincentral> orb: it takes time to learn it. i recommend The Linux Bible for a book.
[08:38] <diabolik> salut tout le monde
[08:38] <orb> dystopianray: a lot of errors about dependencies on other things.  here's an example: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:38] <orb>   linux-image-generic: Depends: linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic but it is not going to be installed
[08:38] <nickname632> le monde
[08:38] <dystopianray> orb: pastebin it
[08:38] <orb> dystopianray: what's pastebin
[08:38] <BernieMac> vancomycin, could be the effects, the seem to real wreak havoc on certain things
[08:38] <dystopianray> !pastebin | orb
[08:38] <ubotu> orb: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:38] <ArmedKing> orb then first install linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic
[08:38] <nickname632> -Its a website you paste things so you don't flod chat
[08:38] <nickname632> s/flod/flood
[08:39] <nickname632> I said it first !
[08:39] <byonix> anyone can help me to make my php code connect to mysql database
[08:39] <nickname632> learn mysql?
[08:39] <orb> ArmedKing: I just tried that, and it asks me to insert the fiesty fawn cd, which I do, and I press enter and it just keeps telling me to insert it
[08:40] <orb> ArmedKing: actually hold on
[08:40] <dystopianray> byonix: have you installed and setup mysql?
[08:40] <techone> I recommend xampp
[08:40] <techone> simple and yet works
[08:40] <vancomycin> hey BernieMac how are you - bossmanbeta and another friend helped me run those partitions w/ gparted and i've been up and running the last few days, loving the new os :)  been reading alot of the how to's and just exploring around - but yeah i think it might be the desktop effects, lets say i install this compiz-fusion , how's the stability of that coming along i read that it'll be included in the 18th october release of gibson/
[08:41] <nickname632> goodbye
[08:42] <capn_heasbiter> vancomycin: gutsy ;p
[08:42] <BernieMac> vancomycin, glad to hear it all worked out for you!! I'm not sure about them, lots of people run them so I would think they are fairly stable, I would almost suggest just waiting a month and getting them with the update, then you know they will be pretty stable.
[08:42] <bluefox83> ok, that was some serious weirdness
[08:42] <vancomycin> it's just i like the multiple fast switching of the workspace - dunno, but from what you mentioned - that could be the reason - i am going to disable it for a few minutes and see if that resolves the problem BernieMac
[08:42] <BernieMac> vancomycin, you might want to check the #ubuntu-effects channel, they would probably know more in there
[08:43] <linuxemacs> no, when i typing caps characters i only press down the caps lock key then press any alpha keys.
[08:43] <bluefox83> i had a think coming up in my terminal windows (all of them) saying repeatedly that there was a kernel problem and that a reboot was needed
[08:43] <byonix> dystopianray: correctly, all the LAMP is good, i just can see my inputed data in my form inside my database
[08:43] <bluefox83> it was coming up repeatedly like crazy
[08:43] <BernieMac> vancomycin, I agree, I like my cube. I really like the ability to drag stuff from one workspace to another, doesn't work with the cube off...
[08:43] <dystopianray> byonix: what do you mean you can see it?
[08:44] <bluefox83> Message from syslogd@localhost at Wed Sep 19 02:38:08 2007 ...
[08:44] <bluefox83> localhost kernel: [1305540.773226]  Trying to fix it up, but a reboot is needed
[08:44] <bluefox83> Message from syslogd@localhost at Wed Sep 19 02:38:08 2007 ...
[08:44] <bluefox83> localhost kernel: [1305540.773228]  Backtrace:
[08:44] <bluefox83> what the hell is that? anyone know?
[08:45] <vancomycin> right BernieMac - thanks for the channel link .i'll inquire there in a bit, i disabled the effects for now to see if that is the reason for the occocasional flicker - it's a very subtle one - not darkening the screen or fading out - just like a power spike sort of flicker - pardon my weak description hehe
[08:45] <BernieMac> vancomycin, I know what you are talking about, I have seen it a couple times
[08:45] <decaffeinated> Strange issue...  I can't start Ubuntu with the default boot option in GRUB, but I can get everything working fine if I go through recovery mode and telinit 3.
[08:46] <kikr> how is ubuntu on toshiba tablet pc's?
[08:46] <esotericlove> damn ubuntu, damn you to hell
[08:46] <Prez_> has someone gotten fingerprint reader working on x60s?
[08:46] <decaffeinated> I want to blame the Nvidia driver since I'm using an 8800, but everything (including Compiz) works fine if I log in through the recovery console option.
[08:46] <magnetron> !hardware | Prez_ kikr
[08:46] <ubotu> Prez_ kikr: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[08:46] <ArmedKing> esotericlove: Good morning to you too
[08:47] <meezyfuh> hi, i would like a good mud client that works in gnome. there are currently none on synaptic. any ideas?
[08:47] <meezyfuh> also, how do you install a .deb file?
[08:47] <esotericlove> o wow lol
[08:47] <dystopianray> meezyfuh: should be able to just click on debs to install them
[08:48] <esotericlove> if you cant find stuff, install trevino's COMPLETE sources.list
[08:48] <esotericlove> that answers tha last two qustions
[08:48] <benanzo|mobile> Meezy just doubleclick
[08:48] <BernieMac> vancomycin, good luck with getting that all worked out, I need to get to sleep, class at 9 lol
[08:48] <neighbors> I just installed ubuntu on a machine and when it rebooted for the first time it gets to "Starting Up..." after grub runs and then it reboots
[08:48] <neighbors> anybody know what's up with that?
[08:48] <meezyfuh> dystopianray, what is the command for shell? Just curious
[08:48] <neighbors> it happens every time
[08:48] <bluefox83> where are the syslogs kept?
[08:48] <esotericlove> dont know neighbors, tat sounds awfully frustrating
[08:48] <bluefox83> in /var/log/?
[08:48] <dystopianray> meezyfuh: sudo dpkg -i blah.deb
[08:48] <meezyfuh> thx. any idea a good mud client?
[08:48] <dystopianray> bluefox83: that's right
[08:49] <esotericlove> install pclinuxos, its easier to use than ubuntu
[08:49] <neighbors> it certainly is frustrating :/
[08:49] <vancomycin> thanks BernieMac - yeah i am going to play around with a couple themes and crash - catch you soon!
[08:49] <esotericlove> give pclinuxos a try, its so damn fun and fast
[08:49] <linuxemacs> does any body can help me about how to type caps characters in ttyp(press alt+fx) mode?
[08:50] <BernieMac> vancomycin, I'm sure I'll be here, seems like I'm here or in class.... hmm....might want to think about doing homework somewhere in between
[08:50] <penguincentral> BernieMac: what a great idea ;)
[08:50] <BernieMac> penguincentral, but where is the fun in that?!
[08:51] <bluefox83> dystopianray, i just discovered a very straaaange error in my syslog, know anything about kswapd ?
[08:51] <penguincentral> BernieMac: trust me, any teacher will kick your ass (not literally of course) if you don't do homework
[08:51] <penguincentral> i know first-hand
[08:51] <penguincentral> ;)
[08:51] <esotericlove> seems like a lotta questions here and no answers
[08:51] <esotericlove> people should take it to the forums
[08:51] <BernieMac> penguincentral, welcome to college where it isn't collected.... lol, just shows on the tests and whatnot
[08:51] <dystopianray> bluefox83: pastebin the error
[08:51] <meezyfuh> thanks for your help, sirs
[08:52] <bluefox83> dystopianray, k
[08:52] <doug__> whats a good iso burner for gnomw?
[08:52] <penguincentral> BernieMac: good study habits = good grades
[08:52] <doug__> gnome*
[08:52] <penguincentral> doug_, Ubuntu already ships with an ISO burner
[08:53] <dystopianray> doug__: k3b is the best burner for linux
[08:53] <esotericlove> kde krud
[08:53] <BernieMac> penguincentral, yeah...about that...haha, well anyway. I'm off to bed. Have a good night
[08:53] <penguincentral> BernieMac: cya
[08:53] <bluefox83> dystopianray, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37873/
[08:53] <penguincentral> doug__: right click on your iso in Nautilus, then select write to disc, that easy
[08:54] <doug__> dystopianray:  thanksand penquncentral i dont have ubuntu disks  i used a burnt live cd
[08:55] <dystopianray> bluefox83: have al ook at this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/123405
[08:55] <penguincentral> doug__: then what OS are you using?
[08:56] <tylo> Hello all. I know this is the ubuntu support room and all but I could really use some help on a java program I am writing. This a potentiall n00bish question that is driving me bonkers. PM me if you think you can help.
[08:56] <orb> okay guys so I'm trying to get into the restricted drivers manager to install the binary drivers but I get the error "You need to install the package   linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-16-generic  for this program to work"  What do I do... I tried apt-get install   linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-16-generic but that didn't work...
[08:57] <bluefox83> dystopianray, not sure if that's the same error or not, and i'm not sure what caused mine
[08:59] <visof_> what is the network interface in linux?
[08:59] <visof_> eth0 or what?
[08:59] <Myrtti> should be
[08:59] <bluefox83> eth0 is usually the first ethernet connection
[08:59] <dystopianray> visof_: eth0 is an example of a network interface
[08:59] <orb>  okay guys so I'm trying to get into the restricted drivers manager to install the binary drivers but I get the error "You need to install the package   linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-16-generic  for this program to work"  What do I do... I tried apt-get install   linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-16-generic but that didn't work...
[08:59] <nas_> nas join #ubuntu
[09:00] <om_> hello
[09:01] <visof_> what are the others?
[09:01] <om_> im new linux user and i was trying sabayon gentoo but i found it kind of hard.. i hear this distro is easy and better? is this right?
[09:01] <visof_> i used pppoe server in lan?
[09:01] <orb>  okay guys so I'm trying to get into the restricted drivers manager to install the binary drivers but I get the error "You need to install the package   linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-16-generic  for this program to work"  What do I do... ?
[09:02] <h1st0> orb: let it install the package
[09:02] <orb> hlst0: uh how?
[09:02] <h1st0> orb: it asks you if its okay to install it.
[09:02] <orb> hlst0: nope :( it doesn't ask  that
[09:02] <h1st0> orb: if not you can open a terminal and sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-16-generic
[09:03] <glock> hy ppl
[09:03] <jinx099_> glock, hi
[09:03] <orb> hlst0: yeah  I tried that too, I get the error "E: Couldn't find package [blahblah] "
[09:04] <orb> hlst0: ?? :(
[09:04] <h1st0> orb: whats your sources.list look like?
[09:04] <byonix_> dystopianray : you can look at my source code if you want, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37874/, take a look and give me a hint. okay
[09:04] <orb> hlst0: what's my sources list
[09:05] <h1st0> !info linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-16-generic
[09:05] <ubotu> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-16-generic: Non-free Linux 2.6.20 modules on x86/x86_64. In component restricted, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-16.29 (feisty), package size 15719 kB, installed size 41324 kB
[09:05] <h1st0> orb: go to Administration > Software Sources  Make sure that properitary drivers (restricted) is checkboxed
[09:06] <orb> hlst0: k thanks I'm checking it and stuff now
[09:07] <dystopianray> byonix_: I don't have time to look over the whole thing and the non-english variables confuse me
[09:07] <orb> hlst0: okay I did that and I still get the same error
[09:07] <h1st0> orb: once that is enable your should be able to install the package.
[09:07] <h1st0> orb: which other ones are unchecked?
[09:07] <orb> hlst0: uh nothing's unchecked now except Source code
[09:07] <byonix_> dystopianray : okay
[09:08] <h1st0> orb: Make sure Software restricted by copyright is enabled as well
[09:08] <nas_> how are guide
[09:08] <orb> hlst0: it is :\
[09:08] <dystopianray> byonix_: try getting a small and simple page working and then expand it to what you want to do
[09:08] <nas_> please chat with me
[09:09] <h1st0> orb: okay now open a terminal and sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-blah-blah
[09:09] <h1st0> !ask | nas_
[09:09] <ubotu> nas_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:09] <byonix_> dystopianray : i'll try
[09:09] <bluefox83> dystopianray, how do i add multiple attachments to a bug report?
[09:09] <orb> hlst0: I still get the error that it couldn't find that package :(
[09:10] <nas_> i want to know which latest hp printer 3 in 1 supported ubuntu
[09:10] <h1st0> orb: it has to be there or you didn't enable the repo
[09:10] <wlubin> I attempted to install ubuntu onto my winblow laptop but I could not figure out how to make it dual boot
[09:10] <dystopianray> bluefox83: add them one at a time
[09:10] <Huey> i know ubuntu prefers to use the UUID of a partition in /etc/fstab. However, I created a new filesystem, which changed the UUID. How do I find this value, so i can fstab and have the partition automounted?
[09:10] <orb> hlst0: what's repo?
[09:10] <h1st0> orb: repository were the software is that it downloads and installs.
[09:10] <wlubin> it did not seem to give me the option to find the free space and  stick ubuntu onto it
[09:10] <dystopianray> Huey: sudo vol_id /dev/blah
[09:11] <bluefox83> dystopianray, as i add them, shoudl another box appear to add more? otherwise they will have like 5 different posts from me
[09:11] <h1st0> orb: Open up sources again and make sure its checked then close that out and try again.
[09:11] <coffeelzp> sb
[09:11] <dystopianray> bluefox83: just add them as separate posts
[09:11] <orb> hlst0: just did...   Then pop in the ubuntu cd and install ubuntu.
[09:13] <dystopianray> orb: put ubuntu on it's own smaller partition
[09:13] <h1st0> orb: no you don't need to do that.
[09:13] <orb> It's already on a partition anyways, i'm dual booting
[09:13] <h1st0> orb: can you paste bin yoru /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:13] <h1st0> !paste | orb
[09:13] <ubotu> orb: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:14] <wlubin> ahh ok thanks
[09:14] <orb> hlst0: okay hold on
[09:15] <orb> hlst0: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37876/
[09:16] <nas_> i am still waiting a reply
[09:16] <nas_> no response to my request
[09:16] <orb> hlst0: hold on let me restart
[09:16] <dystopianray> nas_: what is your request?
[09:16] <nas_> i think i am leaving the chat no profit at all
[09:16] <h1st0> What did he do to his sources list?
[09:16] <bluefox83> dystopianray, you think i should reboot like the error says, or leave my machine running?
[09:17] <jombee> he might have them in sources.d
[09:17] <h1st0> He did something bad to it.
[09:17] <jombee> orb do you have directories under /etc/apt/
[09:17] <dystopianray> nas_: state your request again
[09:17] <jombee> and if so what are they
[09:17] <dystopianray> bluefox83: might be best to reboot
[09:18] <bluefox83> dystopianray, it couldn't be anything like someone trying to attack my machine or something would it?
[09:18] <rzimek78> hey, where is inittab file in Ubuntu? in /etc there is no inittab file :(
[09:18] <jombee> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37877/
[09:18] <jombee> orb copy that to your sources.list
[09:18] <dystopianray> bluefox83: the kswapd error? no i very much doubt thats anything to do with a remote attack
[09:18] <bluefox83> dystopianray, ok. thanks
[09:19] <bluefox83> i guess i'll just reboot and see if it happens again
[09:19] <rockets> When I use pulseaudio even with the Esd compat library, i cant get any sound from vlc, please help!
[09:19] <bluefox83> although since i closed amarok, the problem has stopped...
[09:20] <h1st0> maybe amarok was trying to root you. :)
[09:20] <penguincentral> h1sto: lol
[09:20] <penguincentral> hey, is there a specific channel for Ubuntu PPC discussion?
[09:20] <dystopianray> !ppc
[09:20] <ubotu> PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[09:22] <rzimek78> so, there is nmo
[09:22] <rzimek78> there is no inittab file in Ubuntu?
[09:22] <Ralfee> can some one help me with a problem in kubuntu? Its with my nvidia 8500gt cardd
[09:22] <jombee> doesn't look like it
[09:22] <dystopianray> Ralfee: what is the problem?
[09:22] <jombee> I don't think debian based distros use inittab
[09:23] <rzimek78> no? hmm
[09:23] <ArmedKing> Hey guys, I'm Running Screens, with Seperate X. Is there a way to clone my main screen's setting to the others?
[09:23] <jombee> rzimek78 what are you trying to do?
[09:23] <Ralfee> I Have a bad feeling about my drivers, They  don't work well
[09:23] <dystopianray> rzimek78: ubuntu uses upstart which doesn't use inittab
[09:23] <visof> what is the meaning of UDP connections?
[09:24] <Ralfee> very slow grafix display
[09:24] <dystopianray> Ralfee: the nvidia drivers that come with feisty don't supprot your card
[09:24] <Ralfee> oh
[09:24] <orb> hlst0: okay I'm back, I was fruitlessly trying stuff
[09:24] <glock> hy guy can someone tell me how i instal FX5200 on ubuntu 6.06 ?
[09:24] <glock> guys*
[09:24] <Ralfee> is ther e any drivers for fiesty ?
[09:24] <Ralfee> *there
[09:24] <QueenAnya> I am having trouble getting earthlink mail to work on eveloution mail... it keeps having errors or saying my password is inncorect
[09:24] <dystopianray> Ralfee: no official one
[09:24] <nightfreak> is there a way to restore the crontab?
[09:25] <orb> hlst0: you there?
[09:25] <dystopianray> Ralfee: gutsy will support your card
[09:25] <nightfreak> i just did crontab -r
[09:25] <h1st0> orb: back up your sources.list sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bak
[09:25] <glock> how i instal FX5200 on ubuntu 6.06 ??
[09:25] <glock> how i instal FX5200 on ubuntu 6.06 ??
[09:25] <glock> how i instal FX5200 on ubuntu 6.06 ??
[09:25] <glock> how i instal FX5200 on ubuntu 6.06 ??
[09:25] <glock> how i instal FX5200 on ubuntu 6.06 ??
[09:25] <glock> how i instal FX5200 on ubuntu 6.06 ??
[09:25] <glock> how i instal FX5200 on ubuntu 6.06 ??
[09:25] <h1st0> !patience | glock
[09:25] <ubotu> glock: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:25] <Ralfee> That must be something that is ((in the works
[09:25] <sauvin> Can anybody tell me if orca is resident on the ubuntu livecd?
[09:25] <h1st0> orb: then try this sources.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37878/
[09:25] <Ralfee> what is gutsy?
[09:26] <jombee> gutsy is ubuntu 7.10
[09:26] <tylo> it's also a harsh breeze
[09:26] <kalmah> glock, you could try google rather than flooding on irc.. the google option would solve your problem faster
[09:26] <h1st0> !gusty > Ralfee
[09:26] <jombee> still beta, until Oct
[09:26] <h1st0> orb: also my name is h then number 1 not L
[09:26] <orb> h1st0: oh rofl
[09:26] <glock> ubotu in there i found how i can instal me fx5200 ?
[09:27] <h1st0> !bot > glock
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[09:27] <sauvin> I'm talking to a blind person who wants to use the ubuntu livecd to check it out for suitability to his needs. Can anybody tell me what provisions in this regard are made on the livecd?
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[09:27] <Ralfee> ok can i down load it now?
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[09:27] <h1st0> wth
[09:27] <Leon_home> hi all, i would like to know on which port the ssh server work ? (the default port?)
[09:27] <h1st0> !ops
[09:27] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[09:27] <Myrtti> thank you for flying with us today, have a nice day
[09:27] <h1st0> Leon_home: 23
[09:27] <Leon_home> h1st0: thanks
[09:28] <orb> h1st0: how do I save the file if it's readonly
[09:28] <vancomycin> i'm trying to remove a theme folder i dragged into the gnome-theme-manager - it didn't load properly b/c i didn't install in properly :( anyways, i am trying to remove it and it wont go away (it's not loaded) i went to /usr/share/gdm /themes and it's not in there, and nothing in my /home/name folder - when in terminal i run : sudo gnome-theme-manager i get this error : (gnome-theme-manager:10833):   GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_fo
[09:28] <vancomycin> reach: assertion `hash_table != NULL' failed
[09:28] <vancomycin>  and when i click on the the broken theme : (gnome-theme-manager:10833): capplet-common-WARNING **: Could not open file "(null)"
[09:28] <vancomycin>  where is this file?
[09:28] <h1st0> orb: click on teh download text file link on the pastebin page.  Then you can sudo cp /file/you/downloaded /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:29] <h1st0> vancomycin: its in your home
[09:29] <Ralfee> lost connection
[09:29] <Kazuhiro> Anyone got some experience with iozone filesystem bench marking?
[09:29] <vancomycin> h1st0, it's not there man
[09:29] <vancomycin> i looked
[09:29] <vancomycin> no themes folder
[09:29] <h1st0> vancomycin: in a hidden directory hit ctrl + h in nautilus to see all the hidden folders in your home.
[09:29] <xipietotec> vancomycin, themes which fail to load correctly aren't saved under their name
[09:29] <vancomycin> i didn't install it properly
[09:29] <Ralfee> I am on ubuntu site what version in gutsy?
[09:29] <vinboy> hi
[09:30] <vinboy> how do i play real video 4.0?
[09:30] <h1st0> !gusty > Ralfee
[09:30] <jombee> ralfee 7.10
[09:30] <QueenAnya> can anyone help me?? :(
[09:30] <h1st0> !real > vinboy
[09:30] <xipietotec> vancomycin, its saved under a file with a nondescriptive alphanumeric name
[09:30] <h1st0> !ask | QueenAnya
[09:30] <ubotu> QueenAnya: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:30] <Kazuhiro> Hi all, I have some questions about benchmarking a large raid5 array using iozone. And how to accurately measure disk io speeds. I am currently getting two extreme ends of results when testing, some very nice speeds, then some very slow speeds.
[09:30] <xipietotec> so ap0310 or z45g, or something along those lines, just something other than Human or circles or happygnome, etc.
[09:30] <Kazuhiro> In some instances of iozone I am seeing write speeds of 422mb sec, 150-160mb a sec then 35-37mb a sec write speeds.
[09:30] <Ralfee> where can i down load it? link please?
[09:30] <vancomycin> oh i see now - xipietotec and h1st0 ...
[09:30] <h1st0> Kazuhiro: multiple tests and take an average
[09:31] <xipietotec> vancomycin, it might also be a hidden file
[09:31] <QueenAnya> h1st0: I did but no one responded...I am having trouble getting earthlink mail to work on eveloution mail... it keeps having errors or saying my password is inncorect
[09:31] <h1st0> Ralfee: read the message from ubotu
[09:31] <orb> h1st0: sry I really suck at linux, let's say I saved the txt download as sources.list on my Desktop, now what exactly do I enter in the terminal to copy it to the apt directory?
[09:31] <jombee> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/gutsy/tribe-5/
[09:31] <h1st0> QueenAnya: you need to follow earthlinks setup proceedures for their pop3 and smtp.  Perhaps they use smtp auth etc...
[09:32] <vancomycin> what i am trying to remove is when i copied this folder "neutronium gilouche" just to see what would happen -
[09:32] <h1st0> orb: sudo cp /home/orb/Desktop/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:32] <Ralfee> gutsy i got it
[09:32] <jombee> orb in a terminal sudo cp ~/sources.list /etc/apt/
[09:32] <h1st0> orb: make sure the file doesn't have all the line numbers in it.
[09:32] <xipietotec> orb, sudo cp /path/to/your/sources.list /etc/apt/
[09:32] <Ralfee> Do I get tribe 5 test release?
[09:32] <vancomycin> but where or what it's named  is the question in when hitting ctrl-h
[09:32] <xipietotec> make sure you change the file extension from sources.list.txt or whatever to sources.list
[09:32] <h1st0> Ralfee: Stop asking about it in here.  READ THE MESSAGE FROM THE BOT
[09:32] <Kazuhiro> h1st0, is it typical to see very good performance with tests of file sizes upto 4x the memory buffer on the raid card, then really slow down after the file size being tested is much larger?
[09:32] <jombee> Ralfee yes
[09:33] <QueenAnya> h1st0: I have been trying everything.. contacting earthlink but they told me they cant help... and I have reset it up at least five times already and each time the same thing happens
[09:33] <h1st0> QueenAnya: hold on a sec.
[09:33] <orb> h1st0: okay I did that
[09:33] <sauvin> I'm talking to a blind person who wants to use the ubuntu livecd to check it out for suitability to his needs. Can anybody tell me what provisions in this regard are made on the livecd?
[09:33] <Pulah> hiks ...
[09:33] <QueenAnya> h1st0: okay
[09:34] <h1st0> QueenAnya: http://kb.earthlink.net/case.asp?article=23490
[09:34] <xipietotec> !accessability
[09:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about accessability - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:34] <h1st0> orb: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-`uname -r`
[09:34] <Pulah> why i can't start this computer before 11:00
[09:34] <glock> help me to instal fx5200 on ubuntu 6.06 please
[09:34] <xipietotec> !accessibility
[09:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about accessibility - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <orb> h1st0: still says can't find package
[09:35] <Ralfee> Um ok ,bot says spelled gutsy thats it ! was i supost to see more than that hlsto?
[09:35] <vancomycin> xipietotec, where in this hidden directory list would i look for anything that i would have dragged into the gnome theme manager?
[09:35] <h1st0> orb: wth
[09:35] <orb> h1st0: i know right
[09:35] <h1st0> orb: are you sure your copied the sources.list properly
[09:35] <vancomycin> xipietotec, i dont see a themes folder
[09:35] <orb> h1st0: yeah because i checked the file and it matches the one i downloaded
[09:35] <Ralfee> hlst0 your an arttard!
[09:35] <h1st0> orb: does it have a whole bunch of numbers in front of each line?
[09:36] <orb> h1st0: for the update yeah
[09:36] <xipietotec> vancomycin, you have a themes folder under /usr/share/gdm/themes/ in that folder will be the themes installed (this folder does exist, as you have gdm themes installed by default)
[09:36] <orb> h1st0 oh the sources file
[09:36] <h1st0> orb: yes check it and see if there are line numbers in front of each line.  We don't want those there.
[09:36] <orb> h1st0: yeah it's got the ##'s
[09:36] <h1st0> orb: not # sign but line numbers
[09:37] <orb> h1st0: no line numbers
[09:37] <rockets> how can i set the variable FLASH_FORCE_PULSEAUDIO=1 permanently, systemwide for all users
[09:37] <h1st0> orb: hrm...
[09:37] <h1st0> orb: are you connected to the internet on that machine?
[09:37] <xipietotec> sauvin, I forgot the link, if you go into #ubuntu-accessibility someone should be able to tell you the instructions for starting up ubuntu for the blind
[09:37] <orb> h1st0: uh yeah how else would i be talking to you ;)
[09:37] <h1st0> orb: didnt' know if you were using a different machine or not.
[09:37] <orb> h1st0: k
[09:37] <h1st0> orb: try the restricted drivers manager again and let me know the error
[09:37] <vancomycin> xipietotec, yes you are right, i went into there to look first - but didn't see anything in there execpt for the default themes initially that i saw from the manager - i just have this one other one which i want to erase but cant remove from the manager itself - and that error message happens everytime i load the manager from terminal
[09:38] <sauvin> xipietotec, THANK YOU.
[09:38] <orb> You need to install the package
[09:38] <orb>   linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-16-generic
[09:38] <orb> for this program to work.
[09:38] <h1st0> orb: and then what does it do?
[09:38] <xipietotec> vancomycin, remove it via the command line
[09:38] <orb> h1st0: there's a button for close... that's it
[09:38] <MartinW> On the thunderbird website the latest version is 2.0 but in synaptic the latest version is 1.5 (even after reloading). What am I doing wrong?
[09:38] <xipietotec> go into the theme directory then sudo rm -rf themename
[09:39] <h1st0> orb: can you paste bin your new sources.list again now.  This is kind of hard to believe now.  Make sure you copied it to /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:39] <jombee> MartinW the new version probably just isn't in the repos yet
[09:39] <MartinW> I use the south african repro, should I try the main one?
[09:39] <h1st0> MartinW: New versions of software don't get released like that.
[09:39] <linuxemacs> does anyone known when distribute linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 ?
[09:39] <orb> h1st0: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37879/
[09:39] <hmhowie> rockets: you could add it to /etc/profile
[09:40] <QueenAnya> h1st0: thanks for helping me I will try it out
[09:40] <william__> if i update my kernel, do i need to update everything else?
[09:40] <MartinW> How do they get released then?
[09:40] <vancomycin> how shall i type that? all i see it's called is "neutronium gilouche" xipietotec
[09:40] <rockets> hmhowie, so in /etc/profile put export FLASH_FORCE_PULSEAUDIO=1
[09:40] <rockets> ?
[09:40] <h1st0> orb: paste bin the output of sudo apt-get update
[09:40] <hmhowie> william__: probably not
[09:40] <orb> h1st0: okay i'll update again
[09:40] <orb> h1st0: adctually i have the old one up i'll just pastebing that one
[09:40] <dystopianray> MartinW: you'll get new software versions when you upgrade to gutsy
[09:41] <h1st0> MartinW: check in backports
[09:41] <hmhowie> rockets: that would probably do the trick. why do you want to do this anyway, if i may be so curious.?
[09:41] <xipietotec> vancomycin, in the terminal type cd /usr/bin/gdm/themes it should then change you to that directory, then type sudo rm -rf then hit neu and press the tab key and it'll auto-complete the name for you
[09:41] <william__> i'm just wondering about jack, and freebob/ffado
[09:41] <orb> h1st0: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37880/
[09:41] <MartinW> Oh. ok
[09:41] <h1st0> !backports | MartinW
[09:41] <ubotu> MartinW: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[09:41] <william__> i dont know...  i'm following these instructions http://subversion.ffado.org/index.fcgi/wiki/InstallOnUbuntuFeisty
[09:41] <william__> and installed the realtime feisty kernel, and headers
[09:41] <rockets> hmhowie, because its the only way to get flash sound to work with pulse audio. FLASH_FORCE_PULSEAUDIO=1
[09:42] <MartinW> !packaging
[09:42] <ubotu> The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources - See also !backports
[09:42] <william__> at first, i definitely had to make uninstall and make install ndiswrapper again for wifi
[09:42] <william__> and it works again
[09:42] <jombee> orb have you tried searching synaptic for the driver you need
[09:42] <orb> jombee: wtf is synaptic
[09:42] <william__> but i was worried that the issues i'm having with jack/freebob could be related to that kernel update
[09:42] <xipietotec> .....why would you be trying to install ubuntu on a kernel optimized for realtimeOS?
[09:42] <william__> orb: synaptic is a package manager
[09:42] <h1st0> orb: what is the output of uname -r
[09:42] <jombee> synaptic is a graphical version of apt
[09:43] <nanonyme> on of many
[09:43] <orb> h1st0: what do yo umean
[09:43] <nanonyme> one of even
[09:43] <william__> xipietotec: me?
[09:43] <orb> jombee: how would i go about searching for it
[09:43] <xipietotec> william__, yes
[09:43] <hmhowie> rockets: shouldn't that be some sort of local configuration for firefox? i dunno. try shutting your webbrowser, opening a console and typing the following:
[09:43] <william__> xipietotec:  it was recommended here, http://subversion.ffado.org/index.fcgi/wiki/InstallOnUbuntuFeisty
[09:43] <jombee> orb type sudo apt-get install synaptic
[09:43] <vancomycin> xipietotec, bash: cd: /usr/bin/gdm/themes: No such file or directory
[09:43] <vancomycin>
[09:43] <h1st0> orb: type uname -r in a terminal
[09:43] <jombee> then it will be on your administration list
[09:43] <h1st0> jombee: no
[09:43] <kuja> I installed Kubuntu 7.04 (amd64), but I can't seem to figure out on my own, or with Google (even if my life depended on it) .. just *how* I can make Firefox either 1) inherit KDE's anti-aliasing or 2) inherit GNOME's anti-aliasing.  For other GTK apps, I have made them inherit GNOME's font settings (incluiding anti-aliasing).. but it would appear that Firefox and Thunderbird are too special.  Anyone got an idea?
[09:43] <h1st0> jombee: he has synaptic
[09:43] <william__> as i'm trying to get very low latency performance from audio through jack/freebob
[09:43] <hmhowie> FLASH_FORCE_PULSE_AUDIO=1
[09:44] <hmhowie> export FLASH_FORCE_PULSE_AUDIO
[09:44] <hmhowie> firefox
[09:44] <kuja> Even if I run Firefox from GNOME, it still doesn't have anti-aliasing (same with Thunderbird).
[09:44] <orb> h1st0: it says 2.6.20-16-generic
[09:44] <h1st0> orb: and sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[09:44] <xipietotec> ah, okay I see for a jack server
[09:44] <h1st0> orb: that will work
[09:44] <william__> yeah... anyway...  was worried that i'd have to recompile all of that
[09:45] <orb> h1st0: okay that's definitely doing SOMETHING lol
[09:45] <william__> and i'm not 100% about whether jack, and freebob/ffado as well, were installed with aptitude or compiled from src
[09:45] <h1st0> orb: I don't understand why the restrcited manager can't handle that.
[09:45] <orb> h1st0: aids?
[09:45] <xipietotec> nope, just your kernel usually, although if you have programs that were optimized for a different kernel you may have problems, but that should only be a problem if you installed from source, I doubt they'd be reccommending it if you had to use a whole new set of binaries
[09:45] <nonoerruei> a
[09:45] <Zasch> Hello. What is a good bittorrent program for Linux?
[09:46] <kuja> Zasch: I personally like Azureus.
[09:46] <xipietotec> Zasch, Deulge or ktorrent
[09:46] <h1st0> jombee: When we are trying to help someone in irc its easier to give them console commands.  Than trying to explain click here then here then do this.
[09:46] <dystopianray> Zasch: ktorrent or rtorrent
[09:46] <orb> h1st0: okay that worked :D so when I go to restricted drivers there's "NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver"  and that's the only one... doesn't even say it's specfiic to the 8800 lol do I use that?
[09:46] <xipietotec> deluge even
[09:46] <panzer> howto  go in ubuntu  es ?
[09:46] <xipietotec> Azureus crashes alot and uses too much ram
[09:46] <h1st0> orb: it should work... If not there are ways to fix it.
[09:47] <nonoerruei> e
[09:47] <kuja> xipietotec: Oh?  I'm sorry, I've never experienced either of the issues you say exist within Azureus.
[09:47] <h1st0> panzer: /j #ubuntu-es
[09:47] <n-iCe> Can I use shutdown -h -P without su ?
[09:47] <h1st0> xipietotec: use ktorrent
[09:47] <kuja> xipietotec: Perhaps you were running Azureus under the GCJ.
[09:47] <orb> h1st0: ugh can't anything ever just work?  An error occured: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx_1%3a1.0.9631+<IP_ADDRESS>-16.29_i386.deb: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2
[09:47] <h1st0> n-iCe: no
[09:47] <panzer> h1st0 gracias
[09:47] <Zasch> Alright, thanks :)
[09:47] <h1st0> orb: hrm...  sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get autoremove
[09:48] <xipietotec> kuja, I use ktorrent now, it has a better gui to boot
[09:48] <n-iCe> h1k0 thank you
[09:48] <h1st0> orb: then try again
[09:48] <Leon_home> can someone tell me does the ssh server working on tcp 23 or udp 23 ?
[09:48] <n-iCe> h1k0 should I sue then : sudo shutdown -h -P , ?
[09:48] <dystopianray> Leon_home: it works on tcp 22
[09:48] <h1st0> n-iCe: yes
[09:48] <orb> h1st0: same error, dunno if at the end this was there last time, but at the end of it after a line break is "hls"
[09:48] <n-iCe> oki
[09:48] <Leon_home> dystopianray: thanks
[09:49] <h1st0> orb: What is going on with your system.
[09:49] <kuja> xipietotec: I tried KTorrent yesterday.  It's not bad, but I've got that whole "I've used X software for so long that it's hard to adapt to Y software" disease.
[09:49] <orb> h1st0 :'( no idea
[09:49] <h1st0> orb: You shouldn't be having these problems.  How did you install it?
[09:49] <orb> h1st0: uh would envy cause all this by any chance?
[09:49] <h1st0> orb: possibly
[09:49] <h1st0> !envy | orb
[09:49] <ubotu> orb: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[09:50] <h1st0> ^^^^
[09:50] <orb> h1st0: when I first installed and was having trouble getting X to work someone on this IRC told me to use envy
[09:50] <h1st0> orb: Yeah they shouldn't be recomending envy or automatix as you can see by the message from ubotu
[09:50] <h1st0> orb: well what happened with envy?
[09:51] <vancomycin> xipietotec, :/usr/share/gdm/themes$ sudo rm -rf neu i hit tab nothing comes up
[09:51] <masonus> Hello.
[09:51] <orb> h1st0: well it seemed to install nvidia drivers okay enough, but it was still all glitchy, especially when dealing with dual monitor setups... so I decided I'd try installing with the binary installer or something
[09:51] <h1st0> vancomycin: why don't you do an ls /usr/share/gdm/themes
[09:51] <vancomycin> ls
[09:51] <h1st0> orb: what the installer from nvidia.com?
[09:51] <orb> h1st0: uh, what?  I'm not sure I understand what you're asking
[09:52] <masonus> Does anyone have time to help me with an Ubuntu installation issue?
[09:52] <vancomycin> h1st0, xipietotec  : circles  happygnome  happygnome-list  Human  HumanCircle  HumanList
[09:52] <Leon_home> can someone recommend me on good graphic firewall software ?
[09:52] <Scarey> Leon_home: firestarter?
[09:52] <h1st0> orb: when you say you tried to install the binary driver what do you mean?
[09:52] <h1st0> orb: the one in envy?
[09:52] <h1st0> vancomycin: hold on i'll find it in ~
[09:52] <orb> h1st0: no I mean so I decided TO TRY like in the future, which is what I've been trying this whole time with you
[09:53] <rockets> It worked great thanks!
[09:53] <vancomycin> ok thanks xipietotec h1st0
[09:53] <kuja> orb: Have you got a particular issue?  I'm sorry I don't think I saw your original question.
[09:53] <vancomycin> it's just my 2nd day on and i dont want things already "screwy"
[09:53] <orb> kuja: I'm having big issues with installing graphics drivers
[09:53] <h1st0> orb: ahh well first you have to remove whatever envy tried to do.
[09:53] <h1st0> orb: and I have no idea how to do that.
[09:53] <kuja> orb: Really?  What kind of graphics card do you have?
[09:53] <orb> h1st0: so how do I do that?
[09:53] <orb> kuja: nVidia GeForce 8800 GTX
[09:54] <marx2k> ORB: LOAD UP ENVY AND SELECT REMOVE DRIVER
[09:54] <marx2k> -caps, sorry
[09:54] <vancomycin> i learned now that just "dragging themes" doesn't mean it will work! :/
[09:54] <orb> marx2k: can't load up envy, won't load anymore :\
[09:54] <marx2k> whats it say
[09:54] <kuja> orb: I see.  I'm not sure if the 8800 GTX is supported by Ubuntu's currently packaged nvidia-glx driver, but have you tried installing it?
[09:54] <orb> marx2k: nothing, just doesn't go
[09:54] <marx2k> um, so when you type 'envy -t' in a terminal...
[09:54] <orb> kuja: yeah it says on the site it's supported... and yeah i've tried and we're getting a whole slew of errors most likely caused by envy
[09:54] <masonus> I was in here the other day asking about how to remove grub from my windows MBR, thats done. Now I'm installing Ubuntu again and I can't figure out how to get the installer to put GRUB on my external harddrive instead of on my windows hard drive.
[09:55] <orb> marx2k: oh lol that worked -_-
[09:55] <kuja> orb: But, you installed the driver directly from Ubuntu's package repository, right?
[09:55] <marx2k> masonus: almost at the end of the install, theres an advanced button... hit that and select the drive grub should be put to
[09:55] <orb> kuja: no I originally isntalled it from envy... bad idea.  Now i'm trying to undo that
[09:55] <h1st0> vancomycin: hrm.. I can't find where its storing gdm themes
[09:55] <masonus> There is an option on step 7 of the installer called advanced and it looks like I would specify my drive there
[09:55] <xipietotec> vancomycin, the themes themselves have to be configured correctly, they're not allways configured correctly
[09:55] <masonus> but I'm not sure how to specify the driv.
[09:55] <masonus> drive*
[09:55] <marx2k> orb: pastebin your erros
[09:55] <marx2k> !pastebin
[09:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:55] <xipietotec> but I think your theme that installed bad might be a hidden file
[09:56] <masonus> I've tried (hd1,0) but that fails
[09:56] <xipietotec> try typing ls -a
[09:56] <orb> marx2k when enabling the binary driver you mean?
[09:56] <xipietotec> in terminal
[09:56] <marx2k> masonus: : usb drive?
[09:56] <masonus> yep
[09:56] <marx2k> orb: with envy it should just install and then you reboot
[09:56] <kuja> orb: Ah, I see.  Do you know the package name of the NVIDIA driver that was installed by Envy?
[09:56] <vor> hi, any ideas/thoughts why fluxbox is slower then kde and gnome over my nx connection?
[09:56] <masonus> SCSI3 (sdb)
[09:57] <h1st0> vancomycin: nvm it does save them in /usr/share/gdm/themes
[09:57] <orb> kuja: no idea :\
[09:57] <marx2k> orb, use envy to remove the driver
[09:57] <orb> marx2k: yeah but I was having big problems with dual screen setups so I wanted to use the binary driver and try that
[09:57] <marx2k> and pastebin your errors
[09:57] <orb> marx2k: i just did
[09:57] <kuja> orb: Try `sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx`
[09:57] <marx2k> post the link to the pastebin
[09:57] <h1st0> orb: marx2k kuja these are some of the problems with envy this is why it should never be used.
[09:57] <orb> kuja: it says it's not installed, so not removed
[09:57] <marx2k> h1k0: meh...works for every box i run it on..
[09:58] <kuja> orb: Oh, were you able to remove the driver directly from Envy?
[09:58] <h1st0> marx2k: its stupid is it too hard to type in sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx?
[09:58] <orb> kuja: yeah
[09:58] <kuja> orb: Well, then now it should just be a matter of `sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx` :)
[09:58] <h1st0> !envy | marx2k
[09:58] <ubotu> marx2k: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[09:58] <marx2k> h1st0: envy installs nvidia's binary driver ... without envy i keep having to reinstall on every reboot
[09:58] <vega> hi guys
[09:58] <h1st0> marx2k: and its broken orbs machine very badly
[09:58] <masonus> marx2k:  I see that you are very busy helping lots of people at the moment, if you think you can help me I'd be happy to wait for a while.
[09:58] <vega> i am experiencing a problem in installing ubuntu
[09:59] <h1st0> marx2k: so does nvidia-glx
[09:59] <h1st0> marx2k: it installs nvidia's binary driver
[09:59] <marx2k> h1st0: like I said, it fixes my problem every time.. ymmv of course
[09:59] <h1st0> vega: can you elaborate a little more
[09:59] <kuja> I've never had problems with Ubuntu's standard nvidia-glx package.. it has always worked and I have never had to reinstall it upon reboot.
[09:59] <orb> kuja: tried that, got an error
[09:59] <kuja> orb: What error did you get?
[10:00] <vega> when i boot from the cd i receive a weird message related to the tty
[10:00] <vega> what can i do?
[10:00] <orb> kuja: "/var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx_1%3a1.0.9631+<IP_ADDRESS>-16.29_i386.deb
[10:00] <h1st0> kuja: he's unable to install nvidia-glx I finally got his sources.list fixed but nvidia-glx is exited with some error when he tries to install it.
[10:00] <h1st0> vega: i'm assuming it has something to do with envy or god knows what else he has used like automatix etc...
[10:00] <orb> kuja: it says errors were encountered while processing that
[10:00] <orb> kuja: i'd pastebin it but pastebin says I'm spamming so it won't let me -_-
[10:00] <h1st0> orb: dpkg -l | grep nvidia-kernel
[10:01] <vancomycin> h1st0, xipietotec  this is weird > if i went to system>admin>themes - it is not there / BUT if i launch gnome-theme-manager in terminal, i get the  GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_foreach: assertion `hash_table != NULL' failed and  capplet-common-WARNING **: Could not open file "(nu when highlighting the thing i've wanted to delete called : "Neutronium Gliouche"
[10:01] <kuja> orb: Try `sudo apt-get clean`
[10:01] <marx2k> masonus: this is the guide I followwed http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80811
[10:01] <kuja> orb: After performing the clean command, try the install command again.
[10:01] <vega> h1st0 what can i do? the exact message is "/bin/sh can't access tty; job control turned off"
[10:01] <xipietotec> vancomycin, you have to delete it from command line
[10:01] <h1st0> vancomycin: the gdm themers are in System > admin > login window
[10:01] <vancomycin> h1st0, xipietotec sorry i meant system>pref>themes* on above message
[10:01] <orb> h1st0: okay it says ii nvidia-kernel-common and some stuff
[10:01] <orb> kuja: okay hold on
[10:02] <f3trio3d2x> hi all i m compiz and linux newbie,i saw some perfect effects on youtube videos,  how can i activate fold and burn effects or another effects ?
[10:02] <h1st0> vega: What are you trying to do boot the live cd?  or the alternate?
[10:02] <orb> kuja: same error... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx_1%3a1.0.9631+<IP_ADDRESS>-16.29_i386.deb (--unpack):
[10:02] <orb>  subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2
[10:02] <orb> Errors were encountered while processing:
[10:02] <orb>  /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx_1%3a1.0.9631+<IP_ADDRESS>-16.29_i386.deb
[10:02] <orb> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[10:02] <h1st0> vega: You need to explain what you are doing when you get the error.
[10:02] <Leon_home> if i want this directory "/media/disk1/home/me" will be access as a drive like "/media/me"  does it possible ?
[10:02] <vancomycin> ok h1st0 and xipietotec i  am in the login window gui
[10:02] <marx2k> thats a very odd package name
[10:02] <h1st0> orb: can you try dpkg -l | grep nvidia-kernel
[10:02] <masonus> wow beryl works on the live disk.
[10:02] <masonus> disc*
[10:03] <masonus> thats pretty cool
[10:03] <vega> it is the installation cd 7.0.4
[10:03] <marx2k> masonus: did you see my comment to you?
[10:03] <h1st0> vancomycin: click on the local tab and remove the login theme.
[10:03] <orb> h1st0: okay i did, it says ii  nvidia-kernel-common                       20051028+1ubuntu7                      NVIDIA binary kernel module common files
[10:03] <masonus> marx2k: no I must have missed it, let me see if I can find it
[10:03] <vancomycin> and h1st0 , it's not listed there
[10:03] <octa`> wtf
[10:03] <kuja> orb: I guess I can only suggest (at this point) to remove ALL traces of every package you have installed with the word "nvidia" in it.
[10:03] <h1st0> vancomycin: what sort of theme are you trying to install.
[10:03] <orb> kuja: hrm if i knew how I would lol
[10:03] <masonus> marx2k: I'm sorry I don't see it. Would you mind repeating it?
[10:03] <mac_> I cannot boot into my Mac OS after installing ubutun 7.04 PPC
[10:04] <h1st0> vancomycin: and how did you try to install it?
[10:04] <h1st0> !grub | mac_
[10:04] <ubotu> mac_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:04] <vancomycin> it was this > and i didn't install anything i just dragged one folder into there from the extraction , this is the link > http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/..%3A%3AThe+Dark+Theme%3A%3A..?content=66005
[10:04] <marx2k> hey orb, for shits and giggles, try "sudo aptitude -f"
[10:04] <kuja> orb: I think.. maybe `sudo apt-get remove *nvidia*`... make sure it only selects packages with the name "nvidia" in it.
[10:04] <safruhani> !effect
[10:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about effect - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:04] <orb> marx2k: uh okay now what lol
[10:04] <h1st0> vancomycin: and what is the problem then?
[10:04] <safruhani> hello evrybody could someone give the address of the ubuntu effect channel ?=
[10:05] <marx2k> orb: if there were broken packages, that wouldve fixed it
[10:05] <marx2k> it helped me earlier today... but doesnt sound like its helping you :)
[10:05] <Andrea_> hi h1st0  i was online few seconds ago with the nickname vega
[10:05] <h1st0> vancomycin: if you go to system > Preferences > theme?
[10:05] <xipietotec> h1st0, he got a malformed install of a theme, which means its in a hidden folder in his themes directory
[10:05] <marx2k> orb, did you happen to post the link for the pastebin you made?
[10:05] <Leon_home> if i have a tar file at /media/disk2 and i want to extract the archive to /media/disk1 what is the command ?
[10:05] <xipietotec> and he needs to remove it from there
[10:05] <Andrea_> I  was telling you that the problem is that i cannot install ubuntu 7.0.4
[10:05] <orb> marx2k: which pastebin
[10:05] <masonus> marx2k: how do I specify my external drive?
[10:05] <h1st0> xipietotec: well its not in /usr/share/gdm thats for login windows.  Its should be in his ~
[10:05] <marx2k> orb: of the errors envy was giving you
[10:05] <orb> kuja: uh it's just sitting at > after i did that
[10:06] <marx2k> masonus:  /dev/whatever_the_drive_is
[10:06] <masonus> poor marx2k, question after question.
[10:06] <vancomycin> problem is i just dragged a sub folder in there - h1st0 , and when i load the gnome-theme-manager (i dont know why i did in the first place) i keep getting that error and that neutronium gliouche thing is there - but in system>pref>theme - It is not listed there
[10:06] <orb> marx2k: envy didn't giv eany errors
[10:06] <xipietotec> h1st0, from what I understood from him its a gdm theme
[10:06] <marx2k> masonus:  type "df -Th" and its the one with the usbfs
[10:06] <xipietotec> which is in usr/share/gmd/themes
[10:06] <f3trio3d2x> cevap verin ! :)
[10:06] <h1st0> xipietotec: nah its a metacity theme
[10:06] <masonus> marx2k: ok
[10:06] <marx2k> orb: so what happens when you try to install nvidia drivers with envy?
[10:06] <xipietotec> oh, well then
[10:06] <kuja> orb: Make sure you didn't mess up the syntax :) .. it's "sudo apt-get remove *nvidia*"  (without the quotes)
[10:06] <orb> marx2k: it works for the most part, but i have big problems running dual monitor setups
[10:06] <xipietotec> vancomycin, metacity themes are installed in .themes in your home directory
[10:06] <marx2k> orb: Oh...
[10:06] <h1st0> vancomycin: look in /home/vancomycin/.themes
[10:06] <orb> kuja: that's exactly what I typed :\
[10:07] <Leon_home> !tar
[10:07] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[10:07] <marx2k> have you tried "nvidia-settings"?
[10:07] <marx2k> so it seems the issue wasnt really with Envy at all
[10:07] <stefg> Leon_home: man tar
[10:07] <orb> kuja; oh rofl  i had a `  in the beginning
[10:07] <xipietotec> to install a metacity theme, you open the system>pref>themes and drag and drop
[10:07] <kuja> =)
[10:07] <orb> kuja: it says E: Regex compilation error - Invalid preceding regular expression
[10:07] <xipietotec> dragging and dropping it on gdm-theme-manager or the like will cause a problem
[10:07] <kuja> orb: Yeah I suck at this :)
[10:07] <h1st0> kuja: his system is just totally busted up
[10:07] <xipietotec> it'll tell you its broked
[10:07] <orb> kuja: :P
[10:07] <h1st0> orb: sudo apt-get remove nvidia*
[10:07] <kuja> orb: sudo apt-get remove nvidia*  (notice the single asterisk this time)
[10:08] <kuja> doh'
[10:08] <safruhani> xipietotec: hi , what is the name of the ubuntu effect channel ?
[10:08] <h1st0> safruhani: ubuntu-effects
[10:08] <vancomycin> how do i reveal hidden files here? i am in the .themes dir of /home/me/.themes but nothing is there > xipietotec and h1st0
[10:08] <xipietotec> if the theme is malformed, it'll still tell you its broken, but it installs the broken theme into the .theme directory
[10:08] <marx2k> dualscreen CAN be difficult to set up at times...
[10:08] <orb> kuja: okay that worked
[10:08] <h1st0> vancomycin: ls -la
[10:08] <kuja> orb: Now try installing once again: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[10:08] <marx2k> vancomycin:  so what do you want to remove?
[10:08] <xipietotec> safruhani, #ubuntu-effects
[10:08] <h1st0> vancomycin: or if you are in a nautulus window hit ctrl+h to show hidden folders.
[10:08] <orb> kuja: okay it's installing hold on
[10:09] <masonus> marx2k: usbfs isn't listed, would you like to see the return from that command?
[10:09] <dialntone> hello
[10:09] <marx2k> masonus: pastebin  it
[10:09] <dialntone> ubuntu is cool, i love it
[10:09] <masonus> marx2k: pastebin?
[10:09] <dialntone> this is awesome, can i have some more, juice pllease
[10:09] <kuja> orb: By the way, can I ask what sort of problem you were having with dual screens?  (I run a dual screen setup at home with my NVIDIA GeForce 6800 XT)
[10:09] <marx2k> !pastebin
[10:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:09] <orb> kuja: well basically I'd enable it and the system would crash :\
[10:10] <safruhani> h1st0 xipietotec : ah sorry and thank you :)
[10:10] <marx2k> kuja: same here...
[10:10] <orb> kuja: once or twice i got it working and on restart it would fuck up again
[10:10] <orb> kuja: RAWR same F-ING ERROR
[10:10] <kuja> orb: Did you follow a HOWTO guide somewhere?
[10:10] <marx2k> orb: sounds odd
[10:10] <vancomycin> nautilis window = file browser h1st0 ? i hit ctrl-h there and nothing showed up.
[10:10] <Leon_home> i cant understand well "man tar" can someone plz give me example how to extract this file /media/disk1/demo.tar to /media/disk2/demo ?
[10:10] <h1st0> vancomycin: well if nothign is the the .themes folder then you don't have one installed.
[10:10] <marx2k> orb:  whats the error
[10:10] <orb> kuja: no someone in these IRC was helping me