[12:03] <hugelmopf> Mrono: you seem to need some python devel packages
[12:04] <Mrono> thankyou, something can look for
[12:05] <hugelmopf> Mrono: and probably X devel packages
[12:05] <hugelmopf> Mrono: python i am not really sure.
[12:06] <Dasnipa`> hugelmopf, wheres the archives listing?
[12:07] <hugelmopf> !xincludes
[12:07] <ubotu> When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev
[12:07] <hugelmopf> Mrono: ^^^
[12:07] <hugelmopf> Dasnipa`: do you mean /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[12:09] <Dasnipa`> the mirror listing rather
[12:09] <Dasnipa`> im sure theres a copy on kubuntu.com somewhere
[12:10] <hugelmopf> !easysource
[12:10] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:11] <hugelmopf> Dasnipa`: ^^^ that might help. i think you only have to add the two-letter code of your country, e. g. de.archive.ubuntu.com
[12:11] <hDp`> NeeD 3 Mercs fr
[12:20] <bobbyd> hi
[12:20] <bobbyd> can anyone rcommend a simple app for encoding video from a video4linux compatible capture card?
[12:21] <dereks> is there remote desktoping built into kde?
[12:21] <bobbyd> yes
[12:21] <dereks> where
[12:22] <bobbyd> I was just finding it
[12:22] <bobbyd> k->internet->remote desktop connection
[12:22] <dereks> bobbyd: i am looking to connect from another computer to it
[12:22] <bobbyd> you can connect to VNC or windows remote desktop
[12:22] <bobbyd> internet->desktop sharing
[12:22] <bobbyd> heven't used that though
[12:23] <Mrono> I have
[12:23] <Mrono> at least the rdp
[12:23] <bobbyd> dereks, "nomachine" is really good for that btw.
[12:23] <bobbyd> but the standard thing should work
[12:23] <Mrono> doesn't work out of box
[12:23] <Mrono> gotta install rdesktop
[12:23] <bobbyd> Mrono, nomachine or rdp?
[12:23] <dereks> "Cannot find KInetD. The KDE daemon (kdeb) may have crashed or has not been started at all, or the installation failed)
[12:23] <Mrono> sudo apt-get install rdesktop
[12:23] <dereks> "
[12:23] <dereks> Mrono: why is it nicer than desktop sharing
[12:23] <bobbyd> dereks, what Mrono said :)
[12:24] <samal> Hi. I'm a complete Kubuntu noob and I'm having some real beginner probs with it. I just installed it 20 mins ago on top of Ubuntu using synaptic. My prob is that even with a reboot the system is still using gnome and I can't find a place where I can change this so it uses KDE instead. Any suggestions?
[12:24] <Mrono> stupid fricking install issues
[12:24] <dereks> Mrono: seems that is the client not the server
[12:25] <Mrono> yeah
[12:25] <dereks> i need the server
[12:25] <Mrono> oh
[12:25] <Mrono> your trying to do a server
[12:25] <dereks> yea
[12:25] <Mrono> never done that
[12:25] <dereks> :)
[12:25] <Mrono> try this
[12:25] <Mrono> sudo apt-get install kdeb
[12:25] <Tm_T> kdeb?
[12:25] <samal> plz someone... anyone?
[12:26] <Mrono> logon screen
[12:26] <Tm_T> samal: where you enter your password, there's "session" button
[12:26] <dereks> Mrono: apt-cache show kdeb
[12:26] <dereks> wirr: Unable to locate package kdeb
[12:26] <Mrono> hmm
[12:26] <Tm_T> how about kded
[12:26] <dereks> i am running breezy
[12:26] <dereks> nope
[12:27] <Tm_T> but oh, part of kdebase I think
[12:27] <Tm_T> kded aka KDE Daemon is basic thing in KDE
[12:27] <dereks> Tm_T: how come it isn't started?
[12:27] <dereks> or why does desktop sharing think it isn't
[12:27] <Tm_T> dereks: maybe it is
[12:28] <Tm_T> dunno, never used desktop sharing
[12:28] <Tm_T> dereks: try if forums know something about it
[12:28] <dereks> should i try a reboot? :)
[12:28] <Mrono> hmm
[12:28] <Mrono> mabye'
[12:28] <Tm_T> dereks: as you like
[12:29] <dereks> thats what i will try
[12:29] <dereks> there goes my 60 something day uptime
[12:29] <dereks> brb
[12:29] <Mrono> lol
[12:30] <dereks> getting latest security updates first :)
[12:30] <dereks> brb
[12:31] <Mrono> !make
[12:31] <ubotu> Mrono: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:31] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi there
[12:31] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i am in trouble
[12:31] <hagbard_> hi, i cant get eclipse to work on my amd64.... any suggestions? error log: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/304/
[12:32] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i have founded this wiki on multisouce audio sound
[12:32] <Tallia1Kubuntu> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[12:32] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i followed each step perfectly
[12:32] <Tallia1Kubuntu> but i still can't get anything..
[12:33] <Tallia1Kubuntu> when audacity starts i get the error regarding the audio layer
[12:33] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and skype can't make calls
[12:33] <Tallia1Kubuntu> but the sound works in other programs
[12:34] <hDp`> 6o6 LoW PikaSkill Serv On
[12:34] <derekS> hmm, lets see if this helped
[12:35] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ? anybody can help me?
[12:36] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i just tried to come back to OSS and when i do it, eventually skype and audacity work
[12:37] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i did the modprobe suggested in the wiki too ....
[12:37] <Tallia1Kubuntu> any clue?
[12:37] <derekS> Tm_T: restarted, still no good
[12:44] <Tm_T> derekS: ok, I'm not in full functionalityso I don't know what to do
[12:44] <derekS> Tm_T: :) thanks anyways
[12:45] <Mrono> hmm
[12:45] <Mrono> anyone ever used powermated
[12:45] <Mrono> or gizmod
[12:57] <purplefeltangel> HELP! krita keeps saying "error during autosave! partition full?" and then when i try to save it says THE SPECIFIED FOLDER DOES NOT EXIST OR WAS NOT READABLE
[01:05] <as_284> hello
[01:05] <purplefeltangel> hi :)
[01:05] <as_284> i have a .bin file for the real player, how do i install the program with that file?
[01:06] <robotgeek> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats << as_284
[01:07] <diGVargur> i need help
[01:08] <robotgeek> diGVargur: sure, go ahead and ask
[01:09] <diGVargur> samoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop$ ./psotnic -p conf.hub
[01:09] <diGVargur> bash: ./psotnic: cannot execute binary file
[01:09] <diGVargur> ;S i dont understand
[01:09] <robotgeek> diGVargur: new nick, huh :)
[01:09] <diGVargur> jea :| ?
[01:10] <robotgeek> diGVargur: postnic is probably not on your desktop
[01:10] <diGVargur> so you are not gonna help me ;S?
[01:10] <diGVargur> psotnic is on my desktop
[01:10] <robotgeek> diGVargur: is it executable? chmod +x psotnic
[01:11] <g3n3ra1> can anyone help me out with some theme issues?
[01:11] <diGVargur> no
[01:11] <Snake__> Muhahahhaa
[01:11] <robotgeek> !ask
[01:11] <Snake__> !+ask
[01:11] <ubotu> I heard ask is just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. Keeping the question in one line makes it easier to read. See also http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[01:12] <robotgeek> thanks Snake__
[01:12] <diGVargur> i cant open the psotnic by clicking it it says
[01:12] <diGVargur> Could not open "psotnic"
[01:12] <diGVargur> Archive type not supported.
[01:12] <Snake__> robotgeek: not a prob
[01:12] <diGVargur> ISS?
[01:12] <robotgeek> diGVargur: i would have  compiled it for you, but i don't have a x86 machine
[01:13] <diGVargur> i am trying to folow after this check it out :S http://didek.net/link/hub.htm
[01:16] <diGVargur> robotgeek check it out for me please
[01:16] <robotgeek> diGVargur: ./psotnic-0.2.5-linux-static
[01:17] <diGVargur> samoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop$ ./psotnic-0.2.5-linux-static
[01:17] <diGVargur> Syntax: ./psotnic-0.2.5-linux-static [-v]  [-p]  [-u [site] ]  [-l]  [-c decypted config]  [cryped config]
[01:17] <robotgeek> diGVargur: yeah, you have to use that instead of ./psotnic
[01:18] <diGVargur> use?
[01:18] <diGVargur> what
[01:19] <robotgeek> diGVargur: yes, i say again. use "/.psotnic-0.2.5-linux-static -p conf.hub" instead of "./psotnic -p conf.hub"
[01:21] <diGVargur> samoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop$ /.psotnic-0.2.5-linux-static -p conf.hub
[01:21] <diGVargur> bash: /.psotnic-0.2.5-linux-static: No such file or directory
[01:21] <ganymed> hallo
[01:22] <robotgeek> diGVargur: I'm sorry, i am on a different architecture. i can't really help
[01:22] <diGVargur> please just example for me ;S      this site ->  http://didek.net/link/hub.htm
[01:23] <robotgeek> diGVargur: again, i can't help cause i am on a different architecture, and it will not work for me.
[01:24] <diGVargur> ok
[01:24] <ganymed>  i need a programme or script for resizing pics in a row, so efficiently. any ideas?
[01:25] <robotgeek> ganymed: imagemagick, has a program called convert
[01:25] <robotgeek> command line, oh so sweet :)
[01:26] <ubuntu> hey
[01:26] <ubuntu> how i install linux on a XP SYSTEM
[01:28] <robotgeek> ubuntu: let me point you to a link
[01:29] <ganymed> is there anything not command line based (i love the bash, but i would like to see what i am doing)
[01:29] <robotgeek> ganymed: hmm, i am not very sure.
[01:30] <robotgeek> samoura: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:30] <samoura> thanks
[01:30] <ganymed> well, if it works, it's fine. just maybe a bit more user friendly as my girl friend has te be able to use it, too. (i know, i could write a script)
[01:31] <robotgeek> ganymed: and you want it for batch conversion?
[01:32] <robotgeek> i mean, a gui tool for mass image resizing?
[01:32] <ganymed> if batch means doing the job i one row: yes. those things exist for windows...
[01:33] <ganymed> don't get me wrong. i do NOT say that it is faster or more comfortable if you know the command line
[01:33] <robotgeek> ganymed: no, i just don't know one. lemme look
[01:33] <ganymed> but for those who don't...
[01:33] <ganymed> thx anyway
[01:36] <robotgeek> ganymed: can you try looking for konqueror scripts?
[01:37] <ganymed> konqueror scripts? didn't know there is sth. like this...
[01:37] <robotgeek> ganymed: umm, i mean try right clicking in a directory of images, and look at actions
[01:38] <ganymed> and?
[01:38] <robotgeek> ganymed: maybe it has stuff for resizing. also look at www.kde-apps.org
[01:39] <robotgeek> ganymed: maybe gwenview has something too, i am not very sure. sorry
[01:40] <ganymed> thanks very much anyway. you helped me a lot
[01:44] <allee> robotgeek, ganymed: when you install kipi-plugins, resize capabilities will magicly appear in  gwenview and showimg
[01:44] <robotgeek> allee: awesome, i'll make sure to add this information to the Desktop Guide :)
[01:45] <Tonio_> allee: hum, shouldn't that be a dependancy in that case ?
[01:45] <allee> robotgeek: kipi-plugins is not in main
[01:45] <Tonio_> could be usefull no ?
[01:45] <robotgeek> allee: sure, no problems
[01:45] <Tonio_> ah..........
[01:45] <Tonio_> allee: shouldn't we ask for main inclusion and add a depandancy on this ?
[01:46] <Tonio_> that's a major feature, really
[01:46] <allee> Tonio_: no digikam, showimg, gwenview, kimdaba work perfectly well without kipi-plugins.
[01:46] <Tonio_> is it at least "recommended" ?
[01:46] <allee> Tonio_: all 4 apps should recommend kipi-plugins (at least digikam does ;)
[01:46] <Tonio_> or suggested :)
[01:46] <ganymed> allee: thanks
[01:46] <Tonio_> okay, I'll remember for next gwenview update :)
[01:46] <allee> Tonio_: no definitely recommends IMHO
[01:47] <ganymed> allee: where can i find it?
[01:47] <allee> aptitude install kipi-plugins
[01:47] <fhenrique> Hi
[01:48] <ganymed> oh, it is in the repoaitory. didn't know this. sorry
[01:48] <fhenrique> Algum br ae??
[01:48] <ganymed> well, it is too big for me right now.
[01:49] <ganymed> how do i specify a certain height with convert without specifiying the width?
[01:49] <allee> ganymed: yeah, size suffers due to documentation :(
[01:49] <flix> How to install a .deb file?
[01:49] <robotgeek> ganymed: one sec, lemme look up the man page myself
[01:50] <allee> dpkg -i file.deb
[01:50] <robotgeek> flix: sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[01:50] <ganymed> there is nothing written
[01:50] <flix> thank you
[01:50] <Tonio_> flix: if you have kubuntu, right click on it
[01:50] <robotgeek> ganymed: oh, i tht you meant convert. sorry :(
[01:50] <Tonio_> then kubuntu package menu, and Install :)
[01:50] <flix> ahhh.. I do... next time I will do that... would be much easier
[01:50] <flix> thank you
[01:51] <Tonio_> no pb :)
[01:51] <allee> Tonio_: cool
[01:51] <Tonio_> allee: you didn't knew that ?
[01:51] <robotgeek> Tonio_: to be honest, even i did not know that. another one for the guide :)
[01:52] <Tonio_> robotgeek: well I didn't implement it, but I suggest that to riddell a few month ago, that's the reason I know it, but very few people do
[01:52] <allee> Tonio_: I manage pkg soley from cmd line.  No gui support installation on dozends of hosts.  So I never used them
[01:52] <Tonio_> everyone is using the shell for this
[01:53] <Tonio_> allee: same for me, I just know it because the desktop work is my actual absolute priority :)
[01:53] <robotgeek> Tonio_: write once, work everywhere :)
[01:54] <Tonio_> robotgeek: I didn't write it, it is a public service menu you can find on kde-apps.org :)
[01:54] <allee> Tonio_: and we are happy and thankful that it's high in your priority!
[01:54] <Tonio_> allee: well, at list one personn  is required for this ;)
[01:55] <ganymed> hey cool, there's a php interface
[01:55] <robotgeek> Tonio_: btw, did you find a nice desktop background?
[01:55] <Tonio_> I have the feeling the desktop is nicer on dapper that it was on breezy, so I'm happy ;)
[01:55] <pulver> hey! this kde 3.5.1 is pretty cool...
[01:55] <Mrono> hmm
[01:55] <Tonio_> robotgeek: not at the moment I must say
[01:55] <allee> Tonio_: right
[01:55] <robotgeek> pulver: join the party!
[01:55] <Tonio_> I heard canonical might made one or something
[01:56] <Tonio_> allee: and finally we have good fonts, without forcing the full dpi :)
[01:56] <Mrono> !ati
[01:56] <ubotu> from memory, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[01:56] <allee> Tonio_: :) :)
[01:57] <pulver> robotgeek: yea was using the gnomes before but this feels more responsive.. looks great too
[02:00] <flix> a lot of packages sometimes say they depend on some version of a package like <IP_ADDRESS> and the one I have is <IP_ADDRESS>-ubuntu0 or something like that... how do you solve these problems?
[02:00] <Tonio_> flix: the best thing is probably to avoid installing stuff that is not on the repos
[02:00] <Tonio_> local installation of .deb files can cause dependancies issues
[02:01] <Tonio_> unless you know how to manage them of course
[02:01] <Tonio_> what are you installing ?
[02:02] <ganymed> are you using dapper already?
[02:02] <flix> im installing this: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=34948
[02:03] <coolio10> just open the deb in kpackage
[02:03] <coolio10> if u dont have kpackage get it from adept or synaptic
[02:04] <Tonio_> flix: crappy package........
[02:04] <Tonio_> is it required to install it from a deb ?
[02:04] <Tonio_> kde can install any theme with a tar.gz easilly
[02:05] <flix> coolio10, it can't be found in synaptic
[02:05] <Tonio_> .deb files are usefull for themes on repos, but that's all
[02:05] <flix> Tonio_, ahhh ok
[02:05] <gorus> could anybody please point me to some guide on how to install nvidia drivers ??
[02:05] <flix> Tonio_, I will then need to just forget it about it.. it's not worth the hassle if they haven't packaged it up for easy consumption
[02:06] <Tonio_> flix: you can build a home package with checkinstall
[02:06] <Tonio_> not good for repos, but quite okay for homeuse
[02:07] <Tonio_> ./configure && make && checkinstall and that's it :)
[02:07] <gorus> anybody ??
[02:08] <coolio10> i need them too
[02:09] <flix> Tonio_, thank you, I will do more research on checkinstall
[02:09] <pussfeller> i plugged in my ipod but its not showing up all of a sudden, the ipod aint even blanking
[02:09] <Tonio_> flix: just install it with apt or adept, and when you compile, simply replace the "make install" directive, by checkinstall
[02:09] <pussfeller> maybe i need to restart hal
[02:10] <flix> excellent, will try that!
[02:10] <pussfeller> hal shouldnt affect the kern.log or messages tho
[02:12] <gorus> didnt anybody install nvidia driver here ??
[02:18] <brodel> oi, I have a guy at work that I'm trying to get into linux.  One thing I thought you guys might be able to help me with is the USB drives. On my PC when I stick in a USB drive it automounts and puts it on the desktop. On his I had to go find it somewhere in /media. Can I get his to automount like mine?
[02:21] <ganymed> thx a lot and ciao
[02:25] <Brydenn> k i have a question about the damn clock
[02:26] <Brydenn> i dont know WHY this is happening... but the clock will somehow be AHEAD time after being left alone for several hours
[02:26] <Brydenn> why is the clock getting ahead of the real time?
[02:27] <Brydenn> is there a way for it to say in touch with a "network" so it's always in synch?
[02:27] <Brydenn> *stay in touch
[02:28] <Brydenn> lol well dont everyone talk at once lmfao ;)
[02:29] <theball> hey brydenn
[02:29] <theball> if you go into adjust date and time you can tell it to adjust automatically
[02:29] <theball> right click the clock
[02:31] <theball> brydenn you still here
[02:31] <Brydenn> yes i'm here
[02:31] <Brydenn> sorry :)
[02:32] <theball> so whats new with you?
[02:32] <Brydenn> yah go to Adjust Date and Time right?
[02:32] <Brydenn> then check mark the Set date and time automatically box right?
[02:32] <theball> yeppers, works for me anyway
[02:33] <Brydenn> yah well it works too... however
[02:33] <Brydenn> once i do that
[02:33] <Brydenn> and leave the computer running overnight (for example)... the next day its like 5 to 10mins fast
[02:33] <Brydenn> i dont know how the hell that happens
[02:33] <Brydenn> but its irritating
[02:34] <Brydenn> i want the damn thing to adjust itself every hour on the hour if need be
[02:34] <theball> i have seen that 2 or 3 times at my shop, typically its because the rtc onboard is going goofy
[02:34] <Brydenn> yah i wouldnt doubt it any
[02:34] <Brydenn> but still
[02:34] <Mrono> hey guys
[02:34] <Mrono> I got a major issue
[02:34] <Brydenn> let me guess
[02:34] <Brydenn> you watched Brokeback Mountain and liked it?
[02:34] <Brydenn> lol
[02:35] <Mrono> I updated my video card by following the instructions in the walkthrough
[02:35] <Mrono> !ati
[02:35] <ubotu> hmm... ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[02:35] <Mrono> and now when I boot up it loads everything and then it freezes
[02:35] <Mrono> doesn't matter what I do
[02:35] <Mrono> freezes
[02:35] <theball> bb got dinner on the table
[02:35] <Brydenn> buy an nVidia card :)
[02:35] <Mrono> harr harr
[02:35] <Brydenn> heh
[02:36] <Mrono> fricking toshiba
[02:36] <Brydenn> damn Mrono ... that ATI card is giving you trouble
[02:36] <Mrono> yep
[02:36] <Brydenn> hehe
[02:36] <JohnFlux> How do I send someone a message via nickserv?
[02:36] <Brydenn> yah i wouldnt buy a lappy without an nVidia
[02:36] <Mrono> I just did a fresh install too
[02:36] <Mrono> wiped out my linux install and reinstalled it
[02:36] <Brydenn> JohnFlux: you mean a private message?
[02:36] <Mrono> having issues with making stuff too
[02:36] <JohnFlux> Brydenn: yeah
[02:36] <JohnFlux> Brydenn: they aren't logged in at the moment
[02:36] <Brydenn> john type /msg <nickname> <message>
[02:37] <Brydenn> oh
[02:37] <Brydenn> you want to leave a memo then
[02:37] <JohnFlux> Brydenn: so I want them to get the message when they log in
[02:37] <JohnFlux> right
[02:37] <JohnFlux> for some reason I see nothing when doing /msg nickserv help
[02:37] <JohnFlux> nothign relevant
[02:37] <Brydenn> JohnFlux: type /msg memoserv help
[02:37] <Brydenn> has all the answers you need
[02:37] <JohnFlux> ah memoserv!
[02:37] <JohnFlux> :)
[02:37] <Brydenn> :)
[02:37] <Brydenn> lol I know IRC dammit
[02:37] <Mrono> if I hit ctrl+f1 i can get to another login prompt
[02:38] <Brydenn> hahah (k)Ubuntu... i'm a n00b
[02:38] <Mrono> and log in and ieverything and it doesn't freeze
[02:38] <Brydenn> hmm
[02:38] <Brydenn> thats bizzare Mrono
[02:38] <Mrono> I tried killing everything that booted as well
[02:38] <Brydenn> i dunno what to tell ya
[02:38] <Mrono> then switching back
[02:38] <Brydenn> haha
[02:38] <Mrono> frooze as soon as I did
[02:38] <Mrono> damnit
[02:38] <Mrono> I really don't want to reinstall again
[02:38] <Brydenn> seriously though Mrono ... this OS isnt bad
[02:39] <Mrono> let me tell ya
[02:39] <Mrono> this OS has given me more issues then windows has ever
[02:39] <Mrono> EVER
[02:39] <Mrono> the last week has been hellf or me
[02:39] <Brydenn> np JohnFlux
[02:39] <Brydenn> got your memo
[02:39] <JohnFlux> Brydenn: :)
[02:39] <Mrono> um...
[02:39] <JohnFlux> Mrono: Blame ATI :-)
[02:40] <Mrono> unless your a hot chick with a nice ass I wouldn't go around giving people hugs
[02:40] <Mrono> lmao
[02:40] <Brydenn> lol @ Mrono
[02:40] <Brydenn> Mrono:  does blame ATI
[02:40] <Brydenn> but he has a lappy
[02:40] <Mrono> good thing I installed windows
[02:40] <Brydenn> its not like he can just swap cards
[02:40] <JohnFlux> ah a lappy with ATI
[02:40] <Mrono> yep
[02:40] <JohnFlux> even worse :)
[02:40] <JohnFlux> actually my lappy with ATI worked fine :)
[02:40] <Mrono> toshiba satellite P35-s111
[02:40] <Brydenn> Mrono: what kinda lappy is it
[02:40] <JohnFlux> hmmm
[02:40] <Brydenn> a toshiba what? what series
[02:41] <Mrono> and don't even get me started on this laptop
[02:41] <callie> anyone know how to flash a bios without using jumpers?
[02:41] <JohnFlux> Mrono: I had a toshiba P30 which worked fine
[02:41] <JohnFlux> Mrono: go figure :)
[02:41] <JohnFlux> callie: you want to update the firmware, or just restore the settings to default?
[02:41] <Brydenn> callie: that info is typically in your motherboard manual ;)
[02:42] <callie> that helps a lot Brydenn
[02:42] <callie> its an computer i found
[02:42] <Brydenn> heh ;) np callie
[02:43] <Brydenn> i'm not too sure callie
[02:43] <Brydenn> if you knew the brand and series you could maybe look it up on google or tomshardware
[02:43] <callie> spare me the smartarse then
[02:43] <Mrono> \ooooo
[02:43] <Mrono> guess what I got
[02:43] <Mrono> I got an internship
[02:43] <Brydenn> ?
[02:43] <Brydenn> oh god
[02:43] <Brydenn> not with bill clinton i hope ;)
[02:43] <Mrono> doing networking at a local computer store
[02:43] <Mrono> lmao
[02:44] <Brydenn> cool
[02:44] <Mrono> yeah
[02:44] <Mrono> being only 19 this is very good for me
[02:44] <callie> JohnFlux, i'm trying to correct a CMOS checsum error and flashing the BIOS  via jumpers doesnt seem to correct it
[02:44] <Mrono> it'll give me the experience I need
[02:45] <JohnFlux> callie: stop saying flashing the bios via jumpers
[02:45] <JohnFlux> callie: it doesn't mean anything :)
[02:45] <callie> JohnFlux, it doesnt?
[02:45] <dcode> I need some help....my debconf is totally farked...now any package that depends on it can't intstall
[02:45] <dcode> debconf fails during the setup stage of the package
[02:45] <callie> JohnFlux, you know what i mean
[02:45] <callie> jesus
[02:45] <JohnFlux> callie: you are either flashing the bios to replace the firmware
[02:46] <callie> ok reseting
[02:46] <callie> whatever
[02:46] <JohnFlux> callie: or you are resetting to default values
[02:46] <JohnFlux> callie: not whatever, you need to be clear which you want to do and what you are doing :)
[02:46] <JohnFlux> callie: does your system boot?
[02:46] <callie> you're splitting hairs a little
[02:46] <JohnFlux> no
[02:46] <JohnFlux> its important
[02:46] <callie> no need to be obtuse
[02:47] <JohnFlux> stop being difficult!
[02:47] <JohnFlux> does your system boot?
[02:47] <callie> i think thats what i'm saying
[02:47] <Brydenn> i'm downloading Gentoo 2006.0 right now
[02:47] <Brydenn> cant wait to see it :)
[02:47] <callie> which question shall i answer first JohnFlux ?
[02:47] <JohnFlux> callie: the boot one
[02:47] <JohnFlux> callie: does it boot at the moment
[02:47] <theball> brydenn have u ever succesfully installed gentoo?
[02:47] <Brydenn> holy $h*t ... 800k/sec download hehe
[02:48] <Brydenn> theball: yes
[02:48] <Brydenn> just never installed gnome or kde
[02:48] <callie> JohnFlux, no it doesnt, but the hard drive is blank
[02:48] <theball> i have yet got it going happy
[02:48] <dcode> can someone help me fix my debconf problem?
[02:48] <Brydenn> sorry theball its not all that hard though :(
[02:48] <JohnFlux> callie: but it does continue and attempt to boot?
[02:48] <JohnFlux> callie: can you enter the setup?
[02:48] <theball> guess i just didnt read the instruction right!lol
[02:48] <ramonmartinez> kubuntu sucks ass
[02:49] <Mrono> yay
[02:49] <callie> JohnFlux, it doesnt seem so, and no i cant enter setup
[02:49] <Mrono> someone who agrees
[02:49] <JohnFlux> callie: when it gives you that error, does it just hang there?
[02:49] <Mrono> grrrrrr
[02:49] <callie> JohnFlux, yup
[02:49] <Mrono> where the hell are all the experts
[02:50] <JohnFlux> Mrono: the ati drivers for your laptop don't work
[02:50] <g4sy> hey guys... anyone setup a palm on kubuntu? i've done it a million times in debian etc but... ubuntu seems to be eluding me
[02:50] <JohnFlux> Mrono: what can we do?
[02:50] <JohnFlux> Mrono: bug ati :)
[02:50] <theball> Mrono did you get the ati problem figured out yet, i was gone
[02:50] <Mrono> how do I roll back these drivers
[02:51] <JohnFlux> Mrono: apt-get remove  them then rerun  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:51] <JohnFlux> callie: It shouldn't just hang
[02:51] <JohnFlux> callie: when did you start getting this problem?
[02:51] <Mrono> hmmmmm
[02:51] <Mrono> i'll go try that
[02:51] <JohnFlux> callie: I think the CMOS error is a side effect of a broken motherboard
[02:51] <JohnFlux> callie: that happens fairly often
[02:51] <theball> Mrono dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg pick the generic driver from the list and then reboot and uninstall the drivers u installed.
[02:52] <JohnFlux> theball: beat you :)
[02:52] <theball> now i see opps!
[02:52] <httpdss> callie: battery ?
[02:52] <Mrono> hmm
[02:52] <Mrono> alright
[02:52] <theball> you rock today JF
[02:52] <callie> JohnFlux, well like i said its a computer i found so guess thats why it was on the street
[02:52] <Mrono> acually
[02:52] <g4sy> anybody? i have the usbserial and visor modules loaded.... but NOTHING comes up in dmesg or anywhere else when i hit the sync button on my palm
[02:52] <callie> httpdss, tried that one
[02:52] <Mrono> i'm just going to kill that one
[02:52] <JohnFlux> httpdss: That's my first thought, but if it hangs then replacing the battery won't help
[02:52] <Mrono> blow it away
[02:53] <Mrono> good bye linux
[02:53] <JohnFlux> callie: it shouldn't hang, so I'm 99% sure you have a mobo problem
[02:53] <Mrono> cya guys, i'm gone for good
[02:53] <callie> JohnFlux, shame, i was gonna try and build a server from it too
[02:53] <Mrono> i've given up on linux
[02:53] <JohnFlux> callie: luckily the motherboard is the cheapest componenet in the box
[02:53] <farous> !easysource
[02:53] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:54] <callie> JohnFlux, especially for a socket 370
[02:54] <JohnFlux> :)
[02:54] <JohnFlux> g4sy: are you sure ubuntu even targets the palm?
[02:54] <theball> g4sy: did you start the setserial to listen yet?
[02:55] <g4sy> setserial?
[02:55] <g4sy> no i didn't .... never had to do that with debian. could you explain, theball?
[02:55] <theball> hang on g4sy getting the page i used
[02:55] <g4sy> thnx man!!
[02:58] <theball> crap web just bogged
[03:00] <g4sy> lol... i could search for it if you give me a couple ideas
[03:04] <theball> Q: How to configure PalmOS Devices?
[03:04] <theball>    1. Read General Notes
[03:04] <theball>    2.
[03:04] <theball>       sudo gedit /etc/udev/rules.d/10-custom.rules
[03:05] <theball>    3. Insert the following line into the new file
[03:05] <theball>       BUS="usb", SYSFS{product}="Palm Handheld*", KERNEL="ttyUSB*", NAME{ignore_remove}="pilot", MODE="666"
[03:05] <theball>    4. Save the edited file (sample)
[03:05] <theball>    5. System -> Preferences -> PalmOS Devices
[03:05] <theball>    6. Follow the instructions on screen
[03:05] <theball> sorry for the paste of all
[03:05] <theball> g4sy i was thinking of when i configured my pocket pc
[03:05] <theball> this approach does work
[03:07] <g4sy> thanks
[03:07] <theball> g4sy i did a search for configure ubuntu with usb palm several good google responses
[03:10] <theball> g4sy see if this helps http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-78918.html
[03:10] <theball> Brydenn you still around?
[03:11] <Brydenn> yes
[03:11] <Brydenn> whats up?
[03:11] <theball> how does gentoo look or behave as opposed to other distros?
[03:11] <Brydenn> i dont know yet
[03:12] <Brydenn> the latest version of Gentoo is out
[03:12] <Brydenn> came out yesterday
[03:12] <Brydenn> i downloaded and installed the old version... but i never installed gnome or KDE
[03:12] <Brydenn> it was just command line
[03:12] <theball> let me know what you think, i would like to give it a try again
[03:12] <Brydenn> i believe its BSD based though
[03:12] <Brydenn> ok theball ... i'll let ya know
[03:13] <Brydenn> i'm 60% done with the download now :)
[03:13] <Brydenn> i'm gonna instal it in VMware
[03:13] <theball> do you have a spare machine or hard drive for this ?
[03:13] <theball> ah
[03:13] <Brydenn> i have 3 hard drives
[03:13] <Brydenn> one is 120 gigs, one is 80 i think and the other is like 17
[03:13] <Brydenn> i have more space than i need lol
[03:14] <theball> i have a 120 and its all but full of all of my cd,s
[03:14] <theball> need more space on that pc
[03:14] <Brydenn> hehe
[03:14] <Brydenn> what CDs do you have on there?
[03:14] <theball> got pclinux os running on that machine yesterday
[03:14] <Brydenn> is it just audio CDs or programs?
[03:14] <Brydenn> PCLinux hahaha
[03:15] <Brydenn> lame lame lame
[03:15] <theball> just music
[03:15] <Brydenn> i hate that OS
[03:15] <Brydenn> i remember tyring it
[03:15] <theball> itworks so simple and easy
[03:15] <theball> i left it
[03:15] <theball> everything worked from the get go
[03:15] <Brydenn> yah
[03:15] <theball> not much of a challenge
[03:15] <theball> lol
[03:16] <Brydenn> hehe 451k/sec on this gentoo download ;)
[03:16] <Brydenn> i love cable internet
[03:16] <theball> yeah when the neighborhood isnt sucking it down!!
[03:16] <theball> i have wireless from my job to here, its pretty quick
[03:16] <Brydenn> yah well apparently i dont have a bunch of computer nerds in my area haha
[03:16] <theball> bravo
[03:17] <Brydenn> yah thats why i want a lappy
[03:17] <Brydenn> i have a couple wireless networks in my area
[03:17] <Brydenn> they're just out of range
[03:17] <Brydenn> one of them might be the starbucks across the way
[03:17] <Q_Continuum> more powerful wireless card then.
[03:17] <Q_Continuum> :D
[03:17] <Brydenn> but i wanna crack their damn WEP
[03:17] <Q_Continuum> and/or Pringlescantenna
[03:17] <Brydenn> lol or maybe just get an amplifier
[03:17] <Q_Continuum> same diff.
[03:17] <Brydenn> yah
[03:18] <Q_Continuum> pringles = cheaper
[03:18] <Brydenn> :)
[03:18] <Q_Continuum> and very directional
[03:18] <Brydenn> money is no object to me lol
[03:18] <Q_Continuum> ah
[03:18] <Brydenn> lol j/k ;)
[03:18] <Q_Continuum> well, pringles = more fun
[03:18] <Brydenn> why's that
[03:18] <Q_Continuum> you learn about it.
[03:18] <theball> just get a card that accepts external antenna
[03:18] <Q_Continuum> then if you want a wide-range antenna, you use a coffee can instead.
[03:18] <theball> that can get you 24dbi gain
[03:18] <Brydenn> damn
[03:18] <Brydenn> http://www.turnpoint.net/wireless/antennas/mypringles.html
[03:19] <Q_Continuum> when you make a pringles/coffee can, YOU pick the power :D
[03:19] <Brydenn> thats funny as hell
[03:19] <theball> i am shooting 12 mile with this one and get 600+ k constant
[03:19] <Q_Continuum> want enough to nuke the ants on the sidewalk?  Go ahead.
[03:19] <Brydenn> what? theball  are you serious?
[03:19] <Brydenn> 12miles
[03:20] <Brydenn> common
[03:20] <theball> very much so, been in place for 3 years now
[03:21] <Brydenn> theball: we're gonna talk PM lol
[03:21] <theball> i am firing over the colombia river and it shows a 5 mg connection
[03:21] <Q_Continuum> Defcon wifi shootout
[03:21] <Q_Continuum> 72 miles current record
[03:22] <Q_Continuum> 802.llb
[03:22] <Q_Continuum> 11b*
[03:22] <Q_Continuum> signal lost due to driving over a hill.
[03:22] <Q_Continuum> LOS failure.
[03:25] <Brydenn> damn 72 miles is nuts
[03:29] <coolio10> anyone here?
[03:29] <coolio10> hello
[03:31] <HymnToLife> hi :)
[03:37] <Q_Continuum> nope.
[03:45] <gleesond> I can't figure out how to make kubuntu not turn off my monitor
[03:46] <gleesond> could it be that gnome is messing with stuff because I had ubuntu before I switched to kubuntu
[03:47] <Q_Continuum> first or second monitor, when, and what changes, if any, did you do?
[03:47] <gleesond> its the only monitor that I have. I have not made any in KDE that I can think of
[03:47] <Q_Continuum> How did you switch, just reinstall, and wipe out the old partitions, or what?
[03:48] <gleesond> I added the KDE pkgs and the kubuntu desktop
[03:49] <gleesond> everything seems to work great, I just cant seems to keep my monitor on
[03:49] <Q_Continuum> (not being much of a *nix guru myself) sounds like KDE is using a different configuration file, and it isn't configured to work with your monitor.
[03:49] <Q_Continuum> I can't really help beyond that, but hopefully someone here can.
[03:50] <marc_> the monitor just goes off while your working?
[03:51] <sampan> what's the command for stopping/restarting cups?  (i had to turn off my printer to put in new toner and now it's not printing -- restarting cups might return it to functionality?)
[03:51] <gleesond> no, it goes to sleep after a while
[03:52] <gleesond> of not doing anything
[03:52] <marc_> sounds like it may be the power saving features
[03:53] <gleesond> it would be a   power management option but I cant find that particular option
[03:53] <marc_> check in system settings for the display.  there should be a 'power control' tab.
[03:53] <marc_> on that tab you should find "power off after:"
[03:54] <gleesond> thats the wierd thing, the power managment check box is not even checked
[03:56] <gleesond> should I enable power management display. but that seems to be counter to what my problem is
[03:57] <marc_> just for kicks, i would try enabling power management and set 'power off after' to disabled.
[03:59] <gleesond> now I guess I'll see the results after I go to bed
[03:59] <gleesond> er
[03:59] <gleesond> uh, I guess I wont see them
[03:59] <gleesond> but in the morning
[03:59] <ronaldson40> I have this problem : I have a rar file split into par00.rar, part01.rar....u understand the meaning ... I tried opening this with unrar... It cannot handle it... If it were windows I could use Winrar...So wats the alternative
[03:59] <ronaldson40> for kubuntu
[04:00] <Ex-Cyber> ronaldson40: which unrar are you using?
[04:01] <Ex-Cyber> I think the latest unrar-nonfree can handle that scheme but I'm not sure
[04:01] <ronaldson40> the one i downloaded from Adept just yesterday
[04:03] <klepto> hola
[04:03] <kameron> anyone running dvorak layout?
[04:04] <avatarman> has anyone installed the game EternalLands?
[04:05] <klepto> anyone know how to lockout ssh passwords on 3 bad password attempts?
[04:06] <frogfrogfrog> i get this error when trying to install kubuntu E: /var/cache/apt/archives/kicker_4%3a3.4.3-0ubuntu6_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/crystalsvg/128x128/apps/kmenu.png', which is also in package kdelibs-data
[04:09] <graft> hi!
[04:09] <graft> can anyone tell me how i can configure that media-auto-run thing? It's not in kcontrol...
[04:09] <graft> that i can find
[04:10] <graft> hrmmm
[04:10] <graft> no one's ever active here
[04:18] <_ubuntu_> hey
[04:18] <_ubuntu_> i need some help if possible
[04:18] <klepto> what's the prob?
[04:18] <_ubuntu_> I'm running kubuntu off the live disk and need to dock my portable harddrive
[04:19] <_ubuntu_> so i can save some stuff
[04:19] <_ubuntu_> could you explain to me breifly how to do it or give me the syntax required?
[04:19] <klepto> did you mount the drive?
[04:20] <_ubuntu_> don't know how..
[04:20] <klepto> oh
[04:20] <_ubuntu_> i need to mount...
[04:20] <klepto> what file system is it?
[04:21] <_ubuntu_> what do you mean?
[04:21] <_ubuntu_> I'm runnin Kubuntu live
[04:21] <klepto> is it windows formatted drive, or a linux formatted drive?
[04:21] <_ubuntu_> no
[04:21] <_ubuntu_> not formatted
[04:21] <klepto> ahh
[04:21] <_ubuntu_> i just have it parted
[04:22] <_ubuntu_> i have about 8 gigs to mount...
[04:22] <klepto> hmm.. do you know the physical address? like /dev/hda?
[04:23] <_ubuntu_> no sorry how could i figure that out?
[04:23] <_ubuntu_> wait
[04:23] <_ubuntu_> i have it
[04:23] <_ubuntu_> media:/sdb2
[04:23] <klepto> do this:
[04:24] <_ubuntu_> k
[04:24] <klepto> mkdir /mnt/harddrive
[04:24] <klepto> mount -t ext2 /dev/hdb2/ /mnt/harddrive
[04:24] <_ubuntu_> it says permission denied
[04:24] <klepto> oh
[04:24] <klepto> sudo mount -t ext2 /dev/hdb2/ /mnt/harddrive
[04:25] <_ubuntu_> ok
[04:26] <_ubuntu_> it sais that it doesn't exist
[04:26] <klepto> let me check if i have the format correctly
[04:26] <frogfrogfrog> i get this error when trying to install kubuntu
[04:26] <frank23> is the mount point created?
[04:26] <frogfrogfrog> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/kicker_4%3a3.4.3-0ubuntu6_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/crystalsvg/128x128/apps/kmenu.png', which is also in package kdelibs-data
[04:28] <klepto> that format is correct
[04:28] <klepto> it says that /dev/hdb2 doesn't exist?
[04:28] <_ubuntu_> yea
[04:28] <marc_> where did u see media:/sdb2? could it already have been automounted by kde?
[04:29] <_ubuntu_> ubuntu@rs232169:~$ sudo mount -t ext2 /dev/hdb2/ /mnt/harddrive
[04:29] <_ubuntu_> mount: mount point /mnt/harddrive does not exist
[04:29] <_ubuntu_> ubuntu@rs232169:~$
[04:29] <_ubuntu_> ubuntu@rs232169:~$ sudo mount -t ext2 /dev/hdb2/ /mnt/harddrive
[04:29] <_ubuntu_> mount: mount point /mnt/harddrive does not exist
[04:29] <_ubuntu_> ubuntu@rs232169:~$
[04:29] <klepto> oh
[04:29] <_ubuntu_> ubuntu@rs232169:~$ sudo mount -t ext2 /dev/hdb2/ /mnt/harddrive
[04:29] <_ubuntu_> mount: mount point /mnt/harddrive does not exist
[04:29] <_ubuntu_> ubuntu@rs232169:~$
[04:29] <klepto> sudo mkdir /mnt/harddrive
[04:29] <klepto> then run the mount again
[04:30] <_ubuntu_> hmm
[04:30] <_ubuntu_> still nothing
[04:30] <klepto> go to /mnt/harddrive
[04:30] <klepto> cd /mnt/harddrive
[04:31] <_ubuntu_> wait
[04:31] <_ubuntu_> i just unplugged it and plugged it back in..
[04:31] <_ubuntu_> media:/sdb1  is what it called it now
[04:31] <_ubuntu_> ok i did the cd... it works so far..
[04:32] <klepto> ok
[04:32] <_ubuntu_> now what?
[04:32] <klepto> what did you want to do with the drive?
[04:32] <_ubuntu_> no i mean
[04:32] <_ubuntu_> i typed that command and it changed the directory
[04:33] <klepto> type df -h
[04:33] <klepto> paste it here
[04:33] <_ubuntu_> ubuntu@rs232169:/mnt/harddrive$ df -h
[04:33] <_ubuntu_> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[04:33] <_ubuntu_> /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot
[04:33] <_ubuntu_>                       2.0G  1.3G  626M  68% /
[04:33] <_ubuntu_> tmpfs                 507M  4.0K  507M   1% /dev/shm
[04:33] <_ubuntu_> tmpfs                 507M   13M  494M   3% /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile
[04:33] <_ubuntu_> tmpfs                 507M   40K  507M   1% /tmp
[04:33] <_ubuntu_> tmpfs                  10M  3.0M  7.1M  30% /dev
[04:33] <_ubuntu_> /dev/sdb1             5.9G  414M  5.5G   7% /media/sdb1
[04:33] <_ubuntu_> ubuntu@rs232169:/mnt/harddrive$
[04:33] <klepto> ok
[04:34] <klepto> your drive is mounted
[04:34] <klepto> but
[04:34] <klepto> kde mounted it
[04:34] <klepto> so it's at /media/sdb1
[04:34] <_ubuntu_> what does that mean?
[04:34] <klepto> cd /media/sdb1
[04:34] <robotgeek> !paste
[04:34] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[04:35] <_ubuntu_> the change worked...
[04:35] <klepto> your drive is there
[04:35] <_ubuntu_> ok
[04:35] <_ubuntu_> so i can save stuff off the net there now right
[04:35] <klepto> yup
[04:35] <_ubuntu_> alright thanks man
[04:35] <klepto> no prob
[04:36] <_ubuntu_> i'm new to the whole linux world..
[04:36] <klepto> ubuntuforums.org is a great place to ask questions
[04:36] <_ubuntu_> ok
[04:36] <klepto> have fun
[04:36] <_ubuntu_> i used to have ubuntu but i haven't had it in about 2 yrs
[04:36] <klepto> ahh
[04:36] <_ubuntu_> in ur mind what is the best form of linux to use?
[04:36] <_ubuntu_> redhat?
[04:37] <klepto> nah
[04:37] <klepto> i like ubuntu and gentoo
[04:37] <robotgeek> _ubuntu_: did you expect anything else in #kubuntu :)
[04:37] <_ubuntu_> what are the perks of gentoo over ubuntu
[04:37] <klepto> ubuntu has a great community
[04:37] <_ubuntu_> yea
[04:38] <_ubuntu_> any chance you could help me get a c compiler on this thing?
[04:38] <_ubuntu_> i have a program i need to write and i don't wanna have to go back to windows right now
[04:38] <klepto> you should already have one
[04:38] <julian> hey people
[04:38] <klepto> hola
[04:38] <robotgeek> _ubuntu_: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:38] <julian> how r u all?
[04:39] <julian> i have a little problem
[04:39] <robotgeek> julian: don't ask to ask, just ask
[04:39] <klepto> heh
[04:39] <julian> i have installed winetools and xdialog
[04:39] <_ubuntu_> thanks rob
[04:39] <_ubuntu_> and klept
[04:39] <julian> they both installed correctly
[04:39] <klepto> no prob
[04:39] <julian> but when i execute winetools
[04:39] <julian> i get this message
[04:40] <julian> detectando la versin de Wine...done.
[04:40] <julian> Drive C: is /home/julian/.wine/drive_c
[04:40] <julian> Wine 0.9.8
[04:40] <julian> se ejecuta wine como wine
[04:40] <julian> Los parmetros son --noexit
[04:40] <julian> Browser is /usr/bin/konqueror.
[04:40] <Dasnipa`> !es
[04:40] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:40] <julian> WINEVER is "0.9.8".
[04:40] <klepto> wine isn't my forte either
[04:40] <julian> /usr/local/bin/winetools: line 3300: /usr/local/winetools/Xdialog: is a directory
[04:40] <AttAcKeR> is there someaone to help me please ?
[04:40] <julian> se ejecuta wine como  "wine".
[04:40] <julian> Config is /home/julian/.wine/winetools.log.
[04:40] <julian> /usr/local/bin/winetools: line 3211: /usr/local/winetools/Xdialog: is a directory
[04:40] <julian> /usr/local/bin/winetools: line 3242: /usr/local/winetools/Xdialog: is a directory
[04:40] <julian> /usr/local/bin/winetools: line 3026: /usr/local/winetools/Xdialog: is a directory
[04:40] <julian> any suggestions?
[04:40] <robotgeek> !paste
[04:40] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[04:41] <AttAcKeR> someone to help please ?
[04:41] <frogfrogfrog> i get an error wheal installing kubuntu
[04:41] <robotgeek> julian: i have never used wine, so i can;t help you, sorry
[04:41] <julian> sorry
[04:41] <robotgeek> AttAcKeR: just ask
[04:41] <frogfrogfrog> bonbon in paste bin
[04:41] <julian> ok, thanks anyway rob
[04:41] <AttAcKeR> I have problem with my mouse, it is not a ps2 mouse
[04:42] <robotgeek> and it is a serial or a usb mouse?
[04:42] <AttAcKeR> serial
[04:43] <AttAcKeR> but in /etc/dev there is not ttyS0 only mice event0 and event1
[04:43] <frogfrogfrog> i get an error while installing kubuntu something to do with kicker
[04:43] <AttAcKeR> in xorg.conf what have i to change ?
[04:43] <AttAcKeR> device /dev/mice
[04:43] <robotgeek> AttAcKeR: have you tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[04:44] <AttAcKeR> yes
[04:44] <AttAcKeR> but nothing change
[04:44] <AttAcKeR> have i to change /dev/mice to /dev/ttyS0 ? i tried this but not working
[04:44] <robotgeek> AttAcKeR: i am really not sure, havent used a serial mice ever. sorry
[04:45] <klepto> anyone know how to lockout ssh passwords on 3 bad password attempts?
[04:45] <frogfrogfrog> i get an error while installing kubuntu something to do with kicker
[04:46] <_ubuntu_> hey rob u there?
[04:46] <AttAcKeR> so what can i change to make it work ? in forum posts they say edit xorg.conf and put ttyS0 but where to put it ?
[04:46] <_ubuntu_> i ran that line of code... now what do i do?
[04:46] <_ubuntu_> how can i bring up the c compiler
[04:46] <robotgeek> _ubuntu_: the compiler is gcc
[04:47] <_ubuntu_> so how do i use it?
[04:47] <robotgeek> _ubuntu_: http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Teaching/Courses/C/clab2.html
[04:47] <_ubuntu_> i need a graphical compiler
[04:47] <AttAcKeR> please someone help me with my mouse :)
[04:47] <robotgeek> AttAcKeR: feel free to ask in #ubuntu also
[04:48] <trooper00> _ubuntu_: i would shake that habit if i were you
[04:48] <AttAcKeR> ok thanks
[04:48] <robotgeek> _ubuntu_: all graphical compilers use gcc too :)
[04:48] <_ubuntu_> lol
[04:48] <robotgeek> _ubuntu_: plus, graphical compiler doesn't make sense
[04:48] <_ubuntu_> yea but i'm not that good at c lol
[04:48] <robotgeek> you mean an IDE
[04:48] <_ubuntu_> maybe? lol i'm new here lol
[04:49] <robotgeek> _ubuntu_: that's not a linux specific thing, really :)
[04:49] <_ubuntu_> lol alright
[04:49] <_ubuntu_> so am i safe to go to download.com and download a c compiler
[04:49] <_ubuntu_> like the dev c / c++ compiler?
[04:50] <robotgeek> _ubuntu_: no, you don't need one
[04:50] <_ubuntu_> lol
[04:50] <marc_> an IDE is a graphical front-end to the compiler
[04:50] <robotgeek> _ubuntu_: gcc is the compiler, and if you need a compile button, use kdevelop
[04:50] <_ubuntu_> ok how can i get an IDE or whatever?
[04:51] <kosh> sudo apt-get install kdevelop3
[04:51] <kosh> that will give you an ide
[04:51] <_ubuntu_> alright
[04:51] <_ubuntu_> thanks
[04:52] <ubuntu> hey
[04:53] <_ubuntu_> hey
[04:53] <kosh> what?
[04:53] <_ubuntu_> it didn't work
[04:53] <_ubuntu_> E: Couldn't find package kdevelop3
[04:53] <kosh> you are running kubuntu right?
[04:53] <frank23> _ubuntu_: you need to enable the universe repository
[04:54] <_ubuntu_> ok
[04:54] <_ubuntu_> how?
[04:54] <_ubuntu_> lol
[04:54] <frank23> !tell _ubuntu_ about repos
[04:55] <frogfrogfrog> i get an error while trying to install kubuntu-desktop
[04:55] <robotgeek> frogfrogfrog: apt-get -f install ?
[04:57] <frogfrogfrog> i dont understand
[04:58] <frogfrogfrog> the error is in the paste bin
[04:58] <robotgeek> frogfrogfrog: and the link?
[04:58] <frogfrogfrog> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/576069
[05:00] <robotgeek> frogfrogfrog: did you install any other packages, etc?
[05:01] <frogfrogfrog> yeah i installed all of them
[05:01] <robotgeek> frogfrogfrog: i meant, from other sources/mixed repositories?
[05:02] <frogfrogfrog> maybe tis quit possible
[05:02] <frank23> frogfrogfrog: that was my guess too. did you install stuff from non ubuntu sources?
[05:02] <frogfrogfrog> what ones should i use or not use
[05:02] <robotgeek> frogfrogfrog: if you stick to the official ubuntu sources, you will be fine
[05:02] <vandal> hey guys how can i get hyper threading working on my machine ( i installed smp kernel)
[05:03] <frogfrogfrog> ok i will try
[05:03] <frank23> vandal: they found hyperthreading was a security risk so its disabled by default. I dont know how to activate it though
[05:03] <vandal> i read how to
[05:03] <vandal> but it doesn't appear to work
[05:03] <vandal> ht=on kernel param
[05:04] <frank23> frogfrogfrog: you could try to force the install of kicker
[05:04] <Q_Continuum> For whatever reason, I can't get the second display to work. (Nvidia TwinView) www.outspokengeek.net/misc/xorg.conf
[05:04] <Q_Continuum> Second video port (whichever monitor I hook up) won't get a signal it can handle.
[05:05] <frank23> vandal: I don't know how to enable HT, sorry
[05:05] <frogfrogfrog> frank23:  sudo apt-get -f install kubuntu-desktop
[05:06] <frank23> frogfrogfrog: did you try that?
[05:06] <cool> hi guys!
[05:06] <frogfrogfrog> frank23: yes
[05:06] <cool> anyone can help me
[05:06] <frank23> cool: just ask
[05:06] <cool> how to configure my network
[05:07] <cool> i can't configure it
[05:07] <frank23> what do you want to do?
[05:07] <cool> i want to change my Ip add
[05:07] <cool> and i want to put my domain
[05:07] <cool> i can't find my self in the network
[05:08] <cool> but i can see them!
[05:08] <cool> they using windows platform
[05:08] <cool> and only me using kubuntu
[05:08] <me2win> !wmv
[05:08] <ubotu> restricted is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[05:08] <cool> how will  i do bro
[05:08] <cool> yahh
[05:08] <frank23> cool: I dont know much about networking.
[05:09] <cool> is the can help???
[05:09] <cool> is the site can help!!!!
[05:10] <cool> co'z i want to setup a FTP server
[05:11] <frank23> cool: check the ubuntu wiki and forums
[05:12] <cool> ok
[05:12] <cool> thanks!
[05:13] <cool> frank23 do u have some application that i can used in this platform??? like games etc....
[05:14] <frank23> cool: what kind of application?
[05:14] <cool> do u have other FTP application????
[05:14] <cool> or some games???
[05:14] <cool> if u don;t mind
[05:15] <hatake_kakashi> cool: there are vsftpd, proftpd, wuftpd and I'm sure there are more.. if you googled it along with HOWTO, you will find some
[05:16] <_ubuntu_> ok i just downloaded the kdevelop off line....... now what do i do?
[05:16] <frank23> ftp client or server.  gftp is a good ftp client
[05:16] <frank23> _ubuntu_: what do you mean offline?  why dont you install it with adept?
[05:17] <_ubuntu_> i mean i have it installed..
[05:17] <_ubuntu_> now how do i get it goin
[05:17] <_ubuntu_> so i can program
[05:17] <frank23> _ubuntu_: I never used it. is it in the menu?
[05:18] <_ubuntu_> nope
[05:18] <cool> ohh thanks!
[05:18] <cool> anybody here can share me the link :P
[05:18] <frank23> _ubuntu_: try kdevelop or kdevelop3 in a terminal
[05:19] <frank23> cool: you can get all those ftp programs through adept
[05:19] <cool> ahh ic
[05:19] <_ubuntu_> frank.. can u tell me how to do this?
[05:19] <cool> ur a good coach :)
[05:19] <_ubuntu_> jsut start from teh beginning
[05:20] <frank23> cool: there are 1000s of programs available at your fingertips ;)
[05:20] <cool> yahh!
[05:20] <cool> :)
[05:21] <frank23> _ubuntu_: open a terminal  K->System->Terminal Program
[05:21] <_ubuntu_> ok
[05:21] <_ubuntu_> got it
[05:21] <frank23> try kdevelop
[05:22] <_ubuntu_> bash: kdevelop: command not found
[05:22] <frank23> kdevelop3 then?
[05:22] <_ubuntu_> no
[05:22] <_ubuntu_> can u just tell me how to get it from step one
[05:22] <frank23> _ubuntu_: how did you install kdevelop?
[05:22] <_ubuntu_> i dunno that i did...
[05:22] <frank23> oh
[05:23] <_ubuntu_> can u just explain from square 1
[05:23] <farous> .clear
[05:23] <frank23> !tell _ubuntu_ about repos
[05:23] <_ubuntu_> didn't help
[05:23] <_ubuntu_> i tried that..
[05:23] <_ubuntu_> wasn't there
[05:23] <frank23> did you add universe?
[05:23] <_ubuntu_> i'm runnin kubuntu anyway
[05:23] <_ubuntu_> yea i think
[05:24] <frank23> _ubuntu_: the kubuntu instructions are at the end of the page
[05:24] <farous> _ubuntu_: did you try easysource
[05:24] <cool> wat is the diff between ubuntu and kubuntu????
[05:24] <cool> anyone knows???
[05:24] <cool> co'z i have no idea
[05:25] <frank23> cool: ubuntu use GNOME and kubuntu KDE
[05:25] <farous> cool just the looks all programs work on both equally
[05:25] <cool> ic
[05:25] <cool> co'z my linux is kubuntu
[05:25] <cool> :P
[05:25] <farous> :)
[05:25] <frank23> cool: you can even have both at the same time if you want
[05:26] <farous> !wm
[05:26] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, farous
[05:26] <farous> hmm works on debian though lol
[05:26] <cool> how??? can u share me the idea???
[05:26] <farous> cool try googling on diff window managers for looks. Gnome and KDE are desktops though
[05:26] <cool> ahh
[05:26] <frank23> cool: how to get GNOME too??
[05:27] <cool> yahh
[05:27] <cool> how????
[05:27] <farous> install ubuntu-desktop
[05:27] <frank23> cool: in adept you install the  ubuntu-desktop package.  the menus get messy though because it installs a bunch of programs
[05:27] <hatake_kakashi> yes
[05:28] <hatake_kakashi> on KDE you may only see mostly Gnome apps, same vice-versa
[05:28] <cool> wow nice...
[05:28] <farous> cool better use sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[05:28] <farous> so if you do not like it you can just type sudo aptitude purge ubuntu-desktop to get rid of it
[05:28] <hatake_kakashi> it can be done with apt-get as well
[05:28] <cool> in a terminal????
[05:29] <cool> great!!!
[05:29] <cool> thanks!
[05:29] <farous> hatake_kakashi: not with all dependencies
[05:29] <hatake_kakashi> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop    sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[05:29] <frank23> farous: do you know if you need to install with aptitude to be able to purge like that
[05:29] <farous> apt-get does not keep track of all installed packages depending on the meta package ubuntu-desktop
[05:29] <frank23> hatake_kakashi: that doesnt work. it will not remove everything
[05:29] <hatake_kakashi> farous: heh well I'm too used to using apt-get, aptitude seems a little too odd at times with its 'half-GUI
[05:29] <hatake_kakashi> feel
[05:29] <farous> frank23: nothing to be installed with it
[05:30] <farous> hatake_kakashi: i never use the aptitude gui :)
[05:30] <farous> and by the way i do not recommend it for it is buggy
[05:30] <hatake_kakashi> farous: I mean just typing 'aptitude' on the command line through konsole :)
[05:31] <farous> :)
[05:31] <hatake_kakashi> oh well too late my other box has ubuntu as main base and kubuntu-desktop to add that extra bit
[05:31] <cool> guys brb!!!
[05:31] <farous> cool cool ;)
[05:34] <farous> hi Hobbsee and congrat for membership :) though late
[05:34] <Hobbsee> hey farous - thankyou :)
[05:35] <farous> urw :)
[05:35] <frank23> what does that mean? memebrship
[05:36] <Hobbsee> farous: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember
[05:36] <farous> Hobbsee: that is for frank23 right :)
[05:36] <Hobbsee> er, yeah
[05:36] <farous> :)
[05:37] <frank23> Hobbsee: thats pretty cool ;)  what is your contribution to the project?
[05:38] <farous> oh by the way anyone running latex i highly recommend lyx1.4 though still in testing :( but it is incredibally great :)
[05:39] <Hobbsee> frank23: packaging, irc, some wiki stuff
[05:40] <frank23> Hobbsee: cool. Is dapper the 3year supported release or is that the one after?
[05:40] <Hobbsee> frank23: that's this one
[05:41] <frank23> Are they gonna market it more? Get in the big leagues?
[05:45] <Hobbsee> frank23: i presume so, got no idea
[05:56] <brydenn> who was it here earlier that was asking me about Gentoo?
[05:56] <brydenn> and getting it successfully installed?
[05:57] <farous> brydenn: i think when you use it no one will ans ;)
[05:59] <brydenn> hehe yah maybe
[05:59] <brydenn> well the latest version of gentoo... version 2006.0 is easy to install. a retard can do it... seriously.
[05:59] <farous> brydenn: than i might give it a try ;)
[06:01] <farous> brydenn: do i need a lot of compilation and manual config ?
[06:03] <brydenn> farous: no... it has a gui front end now that walks you through everything
[06:03] <brydenn> easy as hell
[06:04] <farous> hmm and what is the gain. Am just asking what is the diff from ubuntu?
[06:04] <frank23> brydenn: I tried to install gentoo once but wasnt successful. I didnt try too hard though. I did it from step 1 or tier 1 or whatever its called
[06:05] <brydenn> stage1 you mean
[06:05] <brydenn> thats basic install
[06:05] <brydenn> frank23: let me give you the link.. hold on
[06:06] <brydenn> ok
[06:06] <brydenn> frank23: http://gentoo.osuosl.org/releases/x86/2006.0/livecd/
[06:06] <brydenn> go there and download the .iso
[06:06] <brydenn> if you want
[06:07] <brydenn> farous... whats to gain? well i am too new to linux to tell you for certain. But i've heard Gentoo and Debian are pretty good linux OSes
[06:07] <farous> sorry that was for wrong room
[06:07] <frank23> Yeah, thanks. I'm happy with ubuntu. maybe I'll try it in vmware. I don't know what is the advantages of gentoo for me. I think they have a great community though. But so do we ;)
[06:08] <brydenn> Gentoo from what i've been told is very stable and has good overall preformance
[06:08] <Q_Continuum> Debian is pretty good, but not exactly user-friendly.
[06:08] <brydenn> yah frank23 i got it in VMware now hehe
[06:08] <Q_Continuum> Ubuntu/Kubuntu is Debian-simplified.
[06:08] <brydenn> yes i understand Q_Continuum
[06:08] <Q_Continuum> never tried Gentoo though...
[06:09] <Q_Continuum> I learned the hard way, myself.
[06:09] <Brydenn> yah i'm gonna give it a whirl
[06:09] <Q_Continuum> from dialup.
[06:09] <Brydenn> ew
[06:09] <Q_Continuum> oh wait - that was mandrake.  Debian I never got the modem working.
[06:09] <Q_Continuum> "I just downloaded the Mozilla package at 18MB...and now I need HOW MANY dependencies!?!?!"
[06:37] <CyberMad> how to upgrade the installed packaged? right now i use FreeRADIUS v1.0.1 and i would like upgrade it to v1.1.0
[06:40] <frank23> CyberMad: well 1.0.4 is in the repository
[06:40] <CyberMad> so there is no way to upgrade it to 1.1.0 from apt? then i must install it from source/
[06:41] <CyberMad> ?
[06:41] <frank23> CyberMad: If that's not enough, you can try to find a deb repository for it but installing from source is the safest way
[06:41] <CyberMad> ic
[06:41] <CyberMad> ok then..
[06:42] <frank23> CyberMad: are there new features in the latest version that you need?
[06:42] <CyberMad> rlm_sqlcounter i need it.. i just can't find it at 1.0.1 or maybe i don't know where is it? :) do you know?
[06:42] <frank23> CyberMad: do you know how to install from source?
[06:43] <CyberMad> yes,.. i already tried install freeradius from source before
[06:43] <CyberMad> ./configure   make   make install :)
[06:43] <frank23> CyberMad: try checkinstall   instead of make install.
[06:43] <CyberMad> do you ever use freeradius?
[06:44] <frank23> It makes a .deb and installs it for you
[06:44] <frank23> It's more apt friendly
[06:44] <CyberMad> frank23 i never use checkinstall before
[06:44] <frank23> no. I have no idea what it does
[06:45] <CyberMad> so, i must do ./configure then: make  then: checkinstall  ?
[06:45] <frank23> you just install checkinstall and   substitute the sudo make install step for  sudo checkinstall
[06:45] <frank23> yeah
[06:45] <frank23> then the package shows up in synaptic, adept, its easier to manage and remove
[06:45] <CyberMad> i don't use KDE
[06:46] <CyberMad> i just install the server mode
[06:46] <frank23> you could do apt-get remove for the package you just compiled
[06:49] <CyberMad> how to find a package from keyword? i forget >.<
[06:49] <Thedek> apt-cache search bleh
[06:49] <Dasnipa`> apt-cache search
[06:50] <CyberMad> thanks,... :))
[06:51] <eob84> hi
[06:51] <eob84> does anyone know why my KDE menus won't update?
[06:51] <eob84> any time I install a new application...
[06:51] <eob84> the menu doesn't update
[06:53] <Dasnipa`> eob84, i think you need smeg
[06:53] <eob84> what is that?
[06:54] <Dasnipa`> man smeg
[06:54] <eob84> no entry for it
[06:55] <Dasnipa`> okay well the program should be listed in system < menu editor (smeg)
[06:56] <eob84> what does it do why do I need it
[06:56] <eob84> no it's not there
[06:56] <eob84> it isn't installed
[06:56] <Dasnipa`> well smeg, is a menu editor
[06:56] <eob84> I installed with kynaptic
[06:56] <Dasnipa`> so you should be able to add in your programs to the menu with it
[06:57] <eob84> hmm looks like I get errors when I try to run it
[06:57] <eob84> I have a ubuntu disk... I just did a server install then told it to install kubuntu-desktop
[06:58] <eob84> I have never had more problems with a distro lol
[06:58] <Dasnipa`> are you actually running kde eob84? you do know you have to reboot and choose to startup with KDE
[06:58] <eob84> what?
[06:58] <eob84> I get KDM
[06:58] <eob84> when I reboot
[06:58] <eob84> and not console
[06:58] <eob84> I didn't have to choose anything
[06:58] <eob84> I am in KDE
[06:59] <Dasnipa`> okay
[06:59] <eob84> :-D
[06:59] <eob84> I didn't have this problem last time I installed kubuntu-desktop
[06:59] <Dasnipa`> well i dont know what to tell ya... ive never had problems with ubuntu
[07:00] <eob84> I didn't either up till now
[07:00] <eob84> I guess I need to just get the kubuntu ISO then
[07:00] <blanky> hey guys
[07:00] <blanky> how do I make the clock at the bottom right into local time or whatever instead of military
[07:00] <blanky> ?
[07:00] <Dasnipa`> hi blanket
[07:01] <blanky> lol hello Dasnipa`  :)
[07:01] <eob84> is that how you installed... kubuntu ISO... or did you use ubuntu disk then just install kubuntu-desktop
[07:01] <Dasnipa`> i used apt-get to install kubuntu desktop
[07:02] <blanky> fine don't help me :'(
[07:02] <eob84> sigh... me too
[07:02] <Dasnipa`> and then for a couple months was booting to gnome still stupid me not realizing i wasnt in KDE
[07:02] <Dasnipa`> blanky, just a sec
[07:02] <blanky> Dasnipa`, please cause I gotta go :(
[07:02] <eob84> i'ts odd it won't update my menu at all
[07:02] <Dasnipa`> blanky, i dont know off the top of my head... i would tell ya if i knew right away
[07:02] <eob84> ok help him... I am going to reinstall all my apps lol
[07:03] <blanky> oh well thanks Dasnipa` :(
[07:03] <eob84> I know blanky
[07:03] <blanky> eob84, really? can you please help me
[07:03] <eob84> you have to right click on it
[07:03] <blanky> yeah
[07:03] <eob84> select date and time format
[07:03] <blanky> yeah
[07:03] <eob84> click the time and dates tab
[07:03] <blanky> yeah
[07:04] <eob84> pH:MM:SS AMPM
[07:04] <blanky> ooo thanks sir!
[07:04] <Dasnipa`> oh yeah i knew that
[07:04] <blanky> bye bye I gotta go to sleep :(
[07:04] <eob84> np
[07:04] <Dasnipa`> it was so long ago since i didthat
[07:04] <blanky> lol thanks Dasnipa` :)
[07:04] <Dasnipa`> hehe
[07:04] <eob84> sigh... and I have a real problem lol
[07:05] <Dasnipa`> man i was helping this girl on here the other day had a whole lot more problems then you eob84... but none of them were with her system
[07:05] <eob84> ha
[07:05] <eob84> it is more anoying then a problem...
[07:05] <Dasnipa`> she wanted to setup some apps and had no clue how to so i basically walked her thru using apt and stuff and youd tell her okay now perform ./configure
[07:05] <eob84> there use to be a menu update tool in KDE
[07:06] <eob84> haha
[07:06] <Dasnipa`> and shed say it worked... then id say okay run make
[07:06] <eob84> did you direct her twords checkinstall
[07:06] <Dasnipa`> and make wouldnt work because configure didnt work
[07:06] <Dasnipa`> i didnt even bother because she couldnt understand anything for herself
[07:06] <eob84> yea manpages taught me all I know
[07:07] <Dasnipa`> yeah if you cant read a manpage then linux is not for you
[07:07] <eob84> the problem with these IRC rooms is everyone can ancwer easy stuff
[07:07] <eob84> then when you come in with a hard problem like two people out of the 150 people can help you
[07:07] <Dasnipa`> yeah and the people that can answer the tough stuff are usually too busy to
[07:08] <Dasnipa`> because the people that can answer the tough stuff are in development so all their time goes to coding not working tech support
[07:09] <eob84> I had a hell of a time getting nvidia drivers to work
[07:09] <Dasnipa`> oh yeah i remember doing that
[07:09] <Dasnipa`> actually where i had problems with that was in debian
[07:09] <eob84> I had to solve my problem on my own
[07:09] <Dasnipa`> worked like a charm when i loaded up ubuntu
[07:10] <Dasnipa`> !nvidia
[07:10] <ubotu> methinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[07:10] <Dasnipa`> that didnt work for ya?
[07:10] <eob84> no
[07:10] <eob84> well yes
[07:10] <eob84> but I needed editional steps
[07:10] <eob84> nvidia driver uses EDID
[07:10] <Dasnipa`> yeah yes and no for me too in deb... but not in ubu
[07:11] <eob84> my monitor is old and not compatible with EDID
[07:11] <Dasnipa`> what generation nvidia card?
[07:11] <eob84> not sure 6800 gt
[07:11] <Dasnipa`> lol way more than i have hehe
[07:11] <Dasnipa`> my comp is old... 1.6 ghz p4 geforce3 ti200
[07:11] <Dasnipa`> ;)
[07:11] <eob84> well the driver uses your monitor HSYNC and VSYNC for the driver
[07:11] <Dasnipa`> yeah
[07:11] <eob84> EDID gets those values
[07:11] <Dasnipa`> and an old monitor cant send that info
[07:12] <Dasnipa`> i gotcha
[07:12] <eob84> so I needed three lines in xorg that told it to use the values in xorg
[07:12] <Dasnipa`> so you probably had to lookup those values and enter the values in the conf file manually?
[07:12] <eob84> yea
[07:12] <eob84> but and tell the driver to IgnoreEDID
[07:13] <Dasnipa`> ahh
[07:13] <eob84> that was the line I needed
[07:13] <eob84> aparently I am the first person in the world to use a old monitor lol
[07:13] <Dasnipa`> installing gentoo really teaches you all you need to know about editing conf files hehe ;)
[07:13] <eob84> cause no one could help me
[07:13] <eob84> haha yea I know that
[07:13] <Dasnipa`> and then some
[07:13] <eob84> I learned a lot using slackware
[07:14] <SoBeIcedT> how would i go about installing kubuntu on top of my pre existing gentoo installation
[07:14] <eob84> ummm
[07:14] <Dasnipa`> i did a stage 3 install once on a pentium2 300 mhz
[07:14] <eob84> like a duel boot?
[07:14] <SoBeIcedT> yeah
[07:14] <eob84> well
[07:14] <SoBeIcedT> maybe, i can live without gentoo
[07:14] <eob84> is your HD partitioned allready?
[07:14] <SoBeIcedT> yeah
[07:14] <Dasnipa`> oo a duel boot? like the boots duel? with lightsabers?
[07:14] <eob84> easy then
[07:15] <Dasnipa`> hehe givig you a hard time eob84
[07:15] <eob84> install kubuntu on the unocupied partition
[07:15] <SoBeIcedT> ill just kill windoze
[07:15] <eob84> and the kubuntu install will handle the rest
[07:15] <Dasnipa`> yeah... the grub installation should take care of setting up the bootloader for it
[07:15] <SoBeIcedT> is there a way to use the same home and users and stuff
[07:15] <eob84> well not really user
[07:16] <eob84> cause some libs and stuff are diffrent per distro
[07:16] <SoBeIcedT> ah
[07:16] <Dasnipa`> yeah probably not users... but you can mount that partition
[07:16] <Dasnipa`> obviously
[07:16] <SoBeIcedT> how about my application configs
[07:16] <SoBeIcedT> like .gaim directory
[07:16] <eob84> yea
[07:16] <eob84> actually
[07:16] <Dasnipa`> you can probably get away with copying some of those files
[07:16] <SoBeIcedT> i have like years of chat logs and stuff like that
[07:16] <Dasnipa`> but maybe not all of them
[07:16] <Dasnipa`> chat logs and stuff you can probably get away with
[07:16] <eob84> that will be a postinstall setup
[07:16] <Dasnipa`> yeah
[07:17] <SoBeIcedT> i really want to get away from gentoo, portage is way too slow for me
[07:17] <eob84> I know what you mean
[07:17] <eob84> so try this
[07:17] <SoBeIcedT> i cant stand compiling everything from scratch
[07:17] <SoBeIcedT> it was a good way to learn linux
[07:17] <Dasnipa`> tut tut
[07:17] <SoBeIcedT> but now im moving on
[07:17] <eob84> save your home directory to a cd or a pen drive
[07:17] <Dasnipa`> usually its the other way for people lol
[07:17] <SoBeIcedT> lol
[07:17] <Dasnipa`> they switch to gentoo because you compile everything
[07:18] <SoBeIcedT> yeah, my friend introduced me to linux, and he was all hardcore like you have to do it this way
[07:18] <eob84> and just copy the contents of the old home to your new one
[07:18] <Dasnipa`> that = more optimized - faster system
[07:18] <SoBeIcedT> so you can learn how everything works
[07:18] <SoBeIcedT> yeah
[07:18] <SoBeIcedT> i did a stage 1 install
[07:18] <eob84> well gentoo doesn't have everything in portage
[07:18] <eob84> and if you want to create a package
[07:18] <Dasnipa`> no packaged distro can have _everything_
[07:18] <eob84> emerge is a real bitch to configure
[07:18] <SoBeIcedT> so like basically built the system, its all ive ever used
[07:19] <eob84> well I use checkinstall with kubunt
[07:19] <eob84> i basically uses makewatch to watch the makeinstall command and creates a .deb package for you
[07:19] <SoBeIcedT> any other recomendations for distros
[07:20] <eob84> so if I need to do a source compile... I can
[07:20] <SoBeIcedT> im sure this is an unbiased audience
[07:20] <SoBeIcedT> ;)
[07:20] <eob84> it is
[07:20] <eob84> I like ubuntu, or slackware the best
[07:20] <eob84> fedora has it's charm but the install is a little to bulky for my taste
[07:21] <trooper00> debian is great. i run it on every router i've ever configured.. i used to use it for my desktop but i appreciate having things configured for me, working right out of the install
[07:21] <Dasnipa`> i tried slackware didnt care much for it... ive installed about 8 different distros and ubuntu has been the easiest to install for me
[07:21] <eob84> really
[07:21] <eob84> I guess so
[07:21] <SoBeIcedT> ive got no knowledge of other distros, i want to be able to do everything, i want some type of package management
[07:21] <eob84> not to many options
[07:21] <Dasnipa`> and yeah i didnt care too much for fedora and redhat and distros like that... way too bulky
[07:22] <SoBeIcedT> what do you mean by too bulky?
[07:22] <eob84> slackware is the closet to unix... thus the least compatability with certain linux sources
[07:22] <eob84> it comes with so much
[07:22] <eob84> it is like a 4 gig install
[07:22] <macd> there are plenty of nice ackage management systems, (I use kubuntu myself apt-get)  but gentoos emerge is nice, as is bsd ports.
[07:22] <trooper00> heh. it comes with lack of package management.. its a great system to install and then break
[07:23] <macd> Ive never actualy had a linux install break :/
[07:23] <eob84> ubuntu has the best package system
[07:23] <trooper00> macd: install slackware and try to upgrade software over time :)
[07:23] <yello> hey has anyone had trouble running 3d programs using opengl with ati mobility vid cards?
[07:23] <eob84> hehe that is what I did
[07:23] <macd> I had some long running slack workstations
[07:23] <eob84> never had it break
[07:23] <eob84> tons of overhead in slackware
[07:23] <eob84> anyone a LFS fan lol
[07:24] <macd> oh yes, servers love LFS
[07:24] <macd> and SOL Linux
[07:24] <macd> turbolinux as well
[07:24] <macd> rh enterprose
[07:24] <eob84> my friend did LFS
[07:24] <Dasnipa`> i broke a linux install once... on that 400 mhz box... but that was because i reformatted and installed distros on it like 12 times and eventually for the bootsector corrupted
[07:24] <eob84> 3 weeks later he had a base system lol
[07:24] <macd> heh, your bootloader can fix that easily.
[07:24] <SoBeIcedT> whats lfs
[07:25] <eob84> linux from scratch
[07:25] <macd> http://pastebin.com/575742Linux From Scratch
[07:25] <SoBeIcedT> ah
[07:25] <macd> opps
[07:25] <eob84> basically your gentoo install... but without emerge
[07:25] <macd> heh prior to Linux thats a piece of code Im working
[07:25] <SoBeIcedT> oh
[07:25] <eob84> you have to compile everything your self
[07:25] <SoBeIcedT> sounds like fun
[07:25] <eob84> and install it your self
[07:25] <eob84> and if you want a package manager... install one
[07:26] <macd> just dont use adept its very inept :)
[07:26] <eob84> I love linspire
[07:26] <SoBeIcedT> ok so i just looked at some confs. i have 2 hds, i have a / partition and a home partition and a windows partition
[07:26] <eob84> it was the first stable debian distro
[07:26] <SoBeIcedT> could i install kubuntu over the / partition
[07:26] <eob84> uhh?
[07:27] <Dasnipa`> lol i still have an iso from when it was called lindows and they ran a promotion where they gave away the isos for free
[07:27] <eob84> yea you could
[07:27] <trooper00> first stable debian distro.. what sort of nonsense goes on in this channel
[07:27] <SoBeIcedT> and configure it to use my home partition for aall the home directories
[07:27] <eob84> don't forget to tell ubuntu install that your home directory is /home
[07:27] <macd> just get rid of the / partition then create a new partition
[07:28] <eob84> getting games to run in linux has been disapointing
[07:28] <Dasnipa`> cedega
[07:28] <Dasnipa`> <3
[07:28] <macd> ehhh, its not a gaming platform
[07:28] <eob84> bought it
[07:28] <eob84> it can be
[07:28] <eob84> native games ran great
[07:28] <eob84> run*
[07:28] <Dasnipa`> cedega has done a great job with that
[07:28] <SoBeIcedT> has anyone used an ipod with amarok in kubuntu?, ive tried using one in gentoo but i always seem to have problems
[07:28] <eob84> well cedega sux with CS: S
[07:28] <macd> I think its better suited to developers and "power users" rite now
[07:29] <macd> and the "handy" EU
[07:29] <eob84> yea I have
[07:29] <Dasnipa`> lol well CS is for jr high kiddies
[07:29] <eob84> it doesn't do a real good job with it
[07:29] <eob84> haha no way
[07:29] <eob84> counterstrike source is so good
[07:29] <eob84> well I am going to give it up for the fill switch to linux
[07:30] <Dasnipa`> because the subscribers decide what the cedega developers work on nothing ever gets done for CS because most people hate that lol
[07:30] <eob84> I think linux is well suited for the home user
[07:30] <me2win> eob84: you could use cedega
[07:30] <Dasnipa`> havent you noticed that anytime a CS vote comes up it gets like -300
[07:30] <eob84> I own cedega
[07:30] <eob84> I pay the subscription
[07:30] <eob84> but the smoother 1.6 out lol
[07:30] <eob84> which is so odd
[07:31] <me2win> *shrug* i dual boot just to play battlefield
[07:31] <eob84> I duel boot only for CS: S and my pvr apps
[07:31] <Dasnipa`> speaking of the devil... how about vista having 6 versions? tech support nightmare
[07:32] <eob84> how about vista fucking off lol
[07:32] <me2win> nah
[07:32] <eob84> I hate vista
[07:32] <macd> rough, or train your support staff for groups of product
[07:32] <Dasnipa`> i see grandmas buying computers for their grandsons because they are cheap because they have that home basic version installed that has no support for anything else
[07:32] <eob84> if I get one more app in windows written in VB I will flip
[07:33] <Dasnipa`> and then the grandson has to get a different version so that he can do anything other than internet and textedit
[07:33] <Dasnipa`> so m$ gets paid off twice
[07:33] <Dasnipa`> and thats how theyll make a killing on it
[07:33] <me2win> thats why usenet exists
[07:33] <me2win> roflz
[07:33] <eob84> not just that
[07:34] <eob84> but vista pts a tight grip on your PC
[07:34] <eob84> specific preccesor, graphics card
[07:34] <Dasnipa`> and i think that 3d desktop stuff is gay...
[07:34] <eob84> only runs signed windows apps
[07:34] <Dasnipa`> a desktop should not need 3d acceleration just to run
[07:34] <eob84> emeded mp3 protection
[07:35] <eob84> I saw a vidoe
[07:35] <eob84> seemed pointless
[07:35] <Dasnipa`> omg we got "1337 speak"guys
[07:35] <Dasnipa`> apparently he doesnt know that real hackers dont use numbers for words
[07:35] <Dasnipa`> hehe
[07:35] <eob84> the lady had all the folders and windows spinning in a cirle
[07:35] <me2win> lol
[07:36] <frank23> Dasnipa`: well did you guys see the xgl demo videos. they looked pretty cool
[07:36] <me2win> once kde 4 comes
[07:36] <me2win> ill be happy
[07:36] <eob84> when will I ever need to spin my windows in a cyclone?
[07:36] <eob84> anyone try kde 4.5?
[07:37] <me2win> wha?
[07:37] <Dasnipa`> eob84, considering half the computers america have an onboad videochip without directx... half of all people have to get a new computer if they want vista
[07:37] <Dasnipa`> 4.5? lets not jump the gun
[07:37] <me2win> 3.5 you mean?
[07:37] <eob84> ha yea
[07:37] <me2win> im using 3.5.1 right now
[07:37] <eob84> is that the veriosn that comes with kubuntu
[07:38] <Dasnipa`> no
[07:38] <eob84> so how is it then!
[07:38] <eob84> hehe
[07:38] <Dasnipa`> i think the bot has a doc on it
[07:38] <Dasnipa`> !kde2.5
[07:38] <ubotu> Dasnipa`: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:38] <Dasnipa`> !kde3.5
[07:38] <ubotu> (you might want !kde3.5.1) To upgrade to KDE3.5, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[07:38] <Dasnipa`> !kde3.5.1
[07:38] <ubotu> To upgrade to KDE3.5.1, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[07:38] <frank23> kubuntu comes with 3.4.3 but its easy to put 3.5.1
[07:38] <me2win> dapper comes with 3.5.1
[07:39] <me2win> flight 4 does at leasdt
[07:39] <Dasnipa`> u?
[07:39] <Dasnipa`> oopz
[07:39] <robotgeek> 3.5.1 is very slick
[07:39] <eob84> are there any benefits to 3.5?
[07:40] <Dasnipa`> i would imagine there are
[07:40] <robotgeek> bugfixes, and some bugs :)
[07:40] <frank23> eob84: I didnt notice much difference
[07:40] <eob84> really
[07:40] <eob84> shiz
[07:41] <eob84> if I can get tac ops working... I won't need CS
[07:41] <frank23> I'm sure there are improvements but I couldn't name you anything striking
[07:41] <eob84> so if you don't like HL2 what games do you play?
[07:41] <me2win> Winning Eleven
[07:41] <me2win> 2win
[07:42] <me2win> Battlefield
[07:42] <me2win> Madden
[07:42] <Dasnipa`> me? i dont do much gaming... especially given that my comp is old
[07:42] <eob84> solitare then
[07:42] <Dasnipa`> just some older games
[07:42] <eob84> the legen of soltare
[07:42] <Dasnipa`> dII dungeonkeeperII some rpgs
[07:43] <Dasnipa`> i dont play anything consistantly
[07:43] <Dasnipa`> just when i need a break from hours of coding
[07:43] <eob84> what do you dev?
[07:43] <Dasnipa`> nothing specific atm university student
[07:43] <eob84> when I dev... I dev games
[07:44] <Dasnipa`> i am in an independent study group doing game dev on a 2d-isomentric rpg though
[07:44] <eob84> I get pretty burnt out after a day all that
[07:44] <me2win> what languages?
[07:44] <eob84> that is my thing 2d isomet. MMORPG
[07:44] <eob84> c++
[07:44] <Dasnipa`> mmorpg bleh
[07:44] <eob84> I was use DX but I stoped
[07:44] <frank23> 2d isometric. is that the diablo view?
[07:44] <eob84> yea
[07:44] <Dasnipa`> c++ mainly
[07:45] <Dasnipa`> and c
[07:45] <Dasnipa`> i know and hate java
[07:45] <me2win> dont hate java
[07:45] <me2win> its useful sometimes
[07:45] <slow-motion> hallo
[07:45] <me2win> but then again
[07:45] <Dasnipa`> its useful if you dont care about how much ram something is going to use
[07:45] <me2win> most people who start with C++ end up hating everything else because they have less control
[07:46] <Dasnipa`> and dont care about not having access to anything low level
[07:46] <Dasnipa`> yeah exactly
[07:46] <_tim> hey wat video card best works with kubntu?
[07:46] <Dasnipa`> java is like a car with automatic trans... you are in the car but you arent actually driving it... c/c++ is a stickshift... then you are really driving
[07:46] <me2win> _tim: lots of video cards work with it
[07:47] <_tim> lol yea but is nvidia more compatible that ati?
[07:47] <Dasnipa`> java and languages like it limit the creativity of the developer
[07:48] <me2win> nvidia has better open GL support than ati
[07:48] <_tim> ok well then nvidia is prolly my choice
[07:48] <Dasnipa`> _tim, nvidia is generally more compatable because for awhile ati stopped putting out linux versions of drivers for their chips
[07:48] <_tim> iv had tooo many problems with ati
[07:48] <Dasnipa`> but now they are making linux versions again
[07:48] <me2win> Dasnipa`: java is very easy to use and develop in
[07:48] <Dasnipa`> right just like a car with auto trans is ez to drive
[07:48] <me2win> i LOVE c++, but i like java
[07:48] <me2win> after programming so much with it
[07:49] <Dasnipa`> yeah
[07:49] <Dasnipa`> i dont hate java all that much just dont prefer it
[07:49] <Dasnipa`> its not like id go spam java forums with hate messages
[07:50] <Dasnipa`> i do like laughing at those who wish to do _everything_ in java
[07:50] <Dasnipa`> i tell them... yeah go program an operating system in java...
[07:51] <Dasnipa`> robotgeek, its not like anyone is asking for help right now... the activity is good because then if someone comes in they see activity
[07:52] <robotgeek> hmm, yes that is nice. Dasnipa`
[07:52] <me2win> the Java OS actually looks very promising
[07:52] <Dasnipa`> lol are you kidding?
[07:52] <Dasnipa`> that would take like 1.5 gig of ram minimum system requirement
[07:53] <me2win> the demo video was very innovative
[07:53] <Dasnipa`> that is interesting
[07:53] <Dasnipa`> maybe one day when that much ram is a drop in the bucket
[07:55] <Dasnipa`> i really hope my cd arrives tomorrow...
[07:55] <Dasnipa`> wow that was random sorry
[07:56] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi
[07:56] <me2win> lol
[07:56] <Tallia1Kubuntu> [22:53]  <Tallia1Kubuntu> how can i change the program associated with a file in firefox?
[07:56] <Tallia1Kubuntu> [22:53]  <Tallia1Kubuntu> i have just seen that it doesn't consider KDE preferences..
[07:56] <me2win> what cd?
[07:56] <Dasnipa`> me2win, the latest dragonforce cd... european speed metal
[07:57] <me2win> Tallia1Kubuntu: go to KDE preferences, click user account, then default applications
[07:57] <me2win> select web browser
[07:57] <Tallia1Kubuntu> oooo
[07:57] <me2win> the rest is intuition
[07:57] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :) tnx
[07:57] <me2win> np
[07:58] <me2win> Dasnipa`: where do you live?
[07:58] <Dasnipa`> illinois
[07:58] <Tallia1Kubuntu> wait
[07:58] <Tallia1Kubuntu> user account?
[07:58] <Dasnipa`> im pretty much a music connoisour i have just a hair over 15,000 music files
[07:59] <me2win> Dasnipa`: i have 140 gigs of music
[07:59] <Tallia1Kubuntu> me2win: what do you mean by user account?
[07:59] <Dasnipa`> hehe very nice
[07:59] <me2win> the User Account option
[07:59] <me2win> tab
[07:59] <me2win> icon
[07:59] <me2win> thingy
[07:59] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ok nada
[07:59] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i was in kcontro
[07:59] <Tallia1Kubuntu> kcontrol
[07:59] <me2win> ah
[08:00] <Tallia1Kubuntu> why everybody prefers system settings now?
[08:00] <Dasnipa`> me2win, are you one of those who has that all in long techno files in like 256 kb/sec encoding? or is that all normal length songs
[08:00] <me2win> what version of kde do you have?
[08:00] <me2win> Dasnipa`: nah, all normal length, its music dating back to the days of napster
[08:01] <me2win> when napster was free
[08:01] <Dasnipa`> yeah thats about same for me... except i got my music when i was a dj
[08:02] <me2win> ah
[08:02] <Dasnipa`> i was actualyl with a fairly large company they had some deal with the recording industry were i could get free songs
[08:02] <me2win> nice
[08:02] <Dasnipa`> yeah it made me happy
[08:03] <Dasnipa`> but later i moved on to more unique styles scandinavian folk, traditional west african, european metals, and stuff like that
[08:03] <Tallia1Kubuntu> me2win: i am in default applications now.. but i can't change the open with property of firefox, the only thing that i can do is to set firefox as default browser...
[08:04] <me2win> Dasnipa`: nice
[08:04] <me2win> Tallia1Kubuntu: isnt that the point?
[08:04] <Dasnipa`> me2win, i think he meant stuff that programs open with by default within firefox
[08:04] <Dasnipa`> like open a pdf... open with kghostview instead of evince
[08:04] <Dasnipa`> or such
[08:04] <me2win> oohhhh
[08:05] <Tallia1Kubuntu> me2win: no...
[08:05] <Tallia1Kubuntu> me2win: when i click on a wav file firefox offers me only to open with totem..
[08:05] <Tallia1Kubuntu> me2win: and i'd like to open wav with realplayer
[08:05] <me2win> i see i see
[08:05] <me2win> i misunderstood
[08:05] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :D
[08:08] <me2win> those are firefox options i believe
[08:08] <me2win> probably in preferences
[08:09] <me2win> go to edit
[08:09] <me2win> preferences, downloads, then click where it says view and edit actions
[08:09] <me2win> Tallia1Kubuntu: that should work
[08:10] <Dasnipa`> me2win, if you know of them... did you hear blind guardians new one was announced?
[08:10] <me2win> Dasnipa`: didn't know
[08:11] <Dasnipa`> im excited about that one
[08:13] <Dasnipa`> me2win, headphones or nice speakers?
[08:13] <me2win> both if possible
[08:13] <me2win> lolz
[08:13] <Dasnipa`> hehe
[08:14] <me2win> i have a pair of sennheiser hd555
[08:14] <Dasnipa`> i agree although the speakers i dont have anymore they fried on me...
[08:14] <me2win> heh
[08:14] <Dasnipa`> i had a klipsch promedia 5.1
[08:15] <Tallia1Kubuntu> me2win: i have alredy tried that
[08:15] <me2win> i have a logitech 5.1 system
[08:15] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i can't set anything :(
[08:15] <Dasnipa`> they got fried when my house was being added on to they dripped something into the sub
[08:15] <Dasnipa`> and i didnt notice and tried to fire em up and just heard zap
[08:15] <me2win> ew
[08:16] <Dasnipa`> my hd265s i got for nearly a steal at 60$ considering the retail was 120
[08:16] <me2win> i got my 555s for 115, retail 200
[08:16] <Dasnipa`> yeah
[08:16] <me2win> pricegrabber2win
[08:17] <Dasnipa`> i chose the 265s because of the distortion rating and freq range
[08:18] <Dasnipa`> < 0.15 dist 10-25,000 hz
[08:18] <me2win> nice
[08:18] <Dasnipa`> its like 300 ohms so the SPL is low
[08:18] <Dasnipa`> but i dont need that all that much
[08:25] <Q_Continuum> what's a good media player that also supports maintaining a library, ala Winamp or iTunes?
[08:26] <me2win> amarok
[08:26] <me2win> xmms
[08:26] <Dasnipa`> beep
[08:27] <me2win> yeah
[08:27] <me2win> beep is like a winamp clone
[08:27] <me2win> beep is actually xmms extended right?
[08:27] <Dasnipa`> i believe so
[08:27] <Dasnipa`> i personally dont care much for beep... but thats personal preference
[08:28] <me2win> i still think winamp is the best media player to date
[08:28] <Dasnipa`> meh
[08:28] <Dasnipa`> nullsoft is a dead company now though...
[08:28] <Dasnipa`> we'll never see a new version
[08:28] <Dasnipa`> ever
[08:28] <me2win> they just released an update a few days ago
[08:29] <me2win> winamp 5.2
[08:29] <Dasnipa`> when did that happen? last i heard aol bought nullsoft and disbanded the company
[08:29] <me2win> they've been releasing updates
[08:29] <Dasnipa`> when i did windows i prefered foobar anyway
[08:29] <me2win> consistently
[08:30] <Dasnipa`> i didnt care for winamp 4 and never cared for winamp 5... when i was a winamp user it was all about winamp 3 after that they tried to make it do too much
[08:31] <Q_Continuum> I'll be writing up the new Winamp
[08:31] <Dasnipa`> its all about a program being good at one thing and sticking to that one thing... i dont want a video player in my audio player
[08:31] <Q_Continuum> they finally sold out to higher AOL interests
[08:32] <me2win> Dasnipa`: then dont enable the support
[08:32] <me2win> i used Media Player Classic to play video, winamp for audio
[08:32] <me2win> didnt even enable video support on winamp
[08:32] <Q_Continuum> heh
[08:32] <me2win> media player classic + ffdshow = all you need
[08:32] <Dasnipa`> me2win, its a programming level decision though because they dedicated time to write video integration thats fewer programmers making the audio system better
[08:33] <me2win> how does the audio system get better than it does?
[08:33] <Dasnipa`> focused program development
[08:33] <me2win> everything is there
[08:33] <me2win> ac3 support
[08:33] <me2win> m4a
[08:33] <me2win> mp3
[08:33] <Dasnipa`> its not about supporting formats its in the audio translation
[08:34] <me2win> they aren't any further behind than anybody else
[08:35] <Dasnipa`> i still hate to see when programmers try to extend their project beyond the scope of the programs intentions
[08:35] <Dasnipa`> emacs is the best example of that i can think of
[08:35] <Dasnipa`> i mean seriously does emacs need integrated games?
[08:36] <me2win> the intention was to put out an all around good media player
[08:37] <GullyFoyle> you can live your entire life in emacs. welcome to the matrix. :P
[08:37] <Dasnipa`> i dunno... i got disappointed with nullsoft when they put out winamp 4... and i know that 5 corrected their abortion in 4... but i had lost interest by then
[08:39] <Dasnipa`> i guess i never really gave 5 a chance... but by then i was satisfied with foobar
[08:39] <me2win> ah
[08:39] <Dasnipa`> very light client
[08:39] <Dasnipa`> took like 1/3 the ram winamp used
[08:40] <Dasnipa`> and worked great
[08:40] <me2win> can use winamp lite
[08:40] <me2win> all the features stay, just lite
[08:42] <Dasnipa`> yeah it doesnt really matter anymore... the only reason i have an ntfs partition at all is because i dont feel like nor do i have the free space to copy my music and files over to a linux partition to format that partition to ext3 and move it back
[08:42] <me2win> brb
[08:43] <me2win> back
[08:43] <me2win> and lol
[08:45] <Dasnipa`> okay it is indeed time for me to hit the hay...
[08:46] <me2win> heh aight
[08:46] <me2win> have fun, cya later
[08:47] <me2win> im off too, cya
[08:49] <cool> hey guys! i have a question!!!!
[08:49] <cool> how can i configure the su?????
[08:49] <cool> when i enter it
[08:50] <cool> it asking for a password???
[08:50] <cool> wat password can i supply>>????
[08:50] <robotgeek> !root
[08:50] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[08:50] <cool> ok thanks
[08:59] <rysiek> hi there guys
[09:00] <rysiek> I've been searching the Kubuntu Wiki pages for it, but can't find the damn thing - and I am *sure* I've seen it! How to change Konqueror's"simplified" setting so thet it has it's normal, default ones?
[09:00] <rysiek> I mean: splitting the window, additional tool panel on the left, etc
[09:00] <GullyFoyle> hey irssi is pretty kool. i'm so used to gui apps but this console thing aint half bad
[09:00] <rysiek> !konqueror
[09:00] <ubotu> methinks konqueror is the default Web Browser, File Manager, FTP manager and Universal viewing manager for the K Desktop Environment. See http://konqueror.org
[09:01] <rysiek> !konqueror profile
[09:01] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rysiek
[09:01] <rysiek> anybody?
[09:01] <Hobbsee> rysiek: is it in wiki.ubuntu.com/PsiJack by any chance?
[09:01] <rysiek> checking
[09:05] <angasule> hmm, there are two eric packages, I think they are the same software (Although different minor versions)
[09:05] <angasule> also, the font installation through the context menu is borked
[09:07] <rysiek> Hobbsee: nope, that's not it, although it's a nice one, too :)
[09:07] <id_sonic> Hello
[09:07] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[09:08] <id_sonic> I use Konqueror , when I click "Ctrl" it display the access keys for me. but I don't want it, how can I do?
[09:09] <id_sonic> onlyone can help me?
[09:09] <rysiek> with what? :)
[09:10] <id_sonic> I use Konqueror , when I click "Ctrl" it display the access keys for me. but I don't want it, how can I do?
[09:10] <rysiek> oh...  I'm searching through the Wiki, but still no luck
[09:16] <robotgeek> id_sonic: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/1569
[09:16] <id_sonic> okay
[09:16] <robotgeek> rysiek: what do you need help with, konq profiles?
[09:18] <rysiek> aye
[09:18] <rysiek> I don't want the "simplified" Konqueror
[09:18] <rysiek> I would love to have the full-blown, heavy'n'dirty one back :)
[09:19] <robotgeek> konqueror --profiles lists all the profiles
[09:19] <rysiek> thx
[09:19] <robotgeek> konqueror --profile webbrowsing
[09:20] <robotgeek> maybe, later you can save the profile to your choosing
[09:21] <rysiek> ok, testing
[09:22] <rysiek> damn, they're all the same o_O
[09:22] <rysiek> I remember one had to delete/rename a file somewhere - but where? that's the question
[09:23] <jpatrick> http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror
[09:23] <jpatrick> :)
[09:23] <rysiek> rofl... and I've search both Wikis through :]
[09:24] <rysiek> "If you cannot find it, you're looking in the wrong place". thx, jpatrick
[09:25] <jpatrick> both wikis?
[09:26] <rysiek> Kubuntu and Ubuntu... or are they the same Wiki with a different look? :]
[09:26] <id_sonic> robewald thanks, are you a konqueror developer ?
[09:26] <jpatrick> same, different look
[09:26] <rysiek> d'oh
[09:26] <jpatrick> and edubuntu's
[09:26] <rysiek> I definetely woke up too early today
[09:28] <cool> hello guys
[09:28] <cool> im back!
[09:28] <cool> question again!!! :p
[09:28] <rysiek> go for it ;)
[09:29] <cool> how can i change the permission of the folder usr???
[09:29] <cool> co\z
[09:29] <cool> i can't paste any file there
[09:29] <rysiek> samoura: I'm not a registered users, I can't send privs
[09:29] <rysiek> just write it here :)
[09:30] <cool> heheeh
[09:30] <cool> pls help me guys!!!!
[09:30] <rysiek> cool: sudo chmod <permissions> /usr
[09:30] <cool> ic
[09:30] <rysiek> but I would not recommend that
[09:30] <cool> why?
[09:31] <w4eg_illuminatus> well...
[09:31] <rysiek> it has the perms it has not without a reason - one being not allowing the users to fcuk up something
[09:31] <samoura> can anybody try to example for me this ;( http://friends.polibuda.info/~grusin/howto-en.php   i am trying to setup psontic bot and i cant anderstand it
[09:31] <cool> ic
[09:32] <w4eg_illuminatus> friend of mine  did a "chmod -R 777 /" ...
[09:32] <w4eg_illuminatus> it was the third day he was using linux
[09:33] <rysiek> samoura: I don't have any experience in setting-up irc bots :/
[09:33] <w4eg_illuminatus> me2
[09:33] <samoura> okei thanks
[09:33] <w4eg_illuminatus> is anyone here who knows how to install DRI ?
[09:33] <samoura> #ubuntu
[09:33] <rysiek> w4eg_illuminatus: how long dod it take him to destroy his system? :)
[09:33] <w4eg_illuminatus> well... three days then
[09:34] <rysiek> ah
[09:34] <rysiek> cool: what d'ya need it for, anyway?
[09:34] <w4eg_illuminatus> but what suprised me: the "chmod 777"-System did still boot
[09:34] <rysiek> cool: you can always sudo cp <source> <dest>
[09:35] <cool> ok
[09:35] <cool> thanks bro
[09:35] <w4eg_illuminatus> yes, but sudo sucks after some time...
[09:35] <rysiek> "To damage a Windows box, it's enought to work with it. To damage a Linux box, you have to work on it"
[09:35] <cool> but in (permission)
[09:35] <cool> how can i supply it
[09:35] <w4eg_illuminatus> *g*
[09:35] <cool> like this ->  -rwcr-xr-r
[09:36] <w4eg_illuminatus> is there a reason to disable root-login by default in (k)ubuntu
[09:36] <w4eg_illuminatus> ?
[09:36] <rysiek> no idea
[09:36] <cool> ok
[09:36] <rysiek> cool:
[09:36] <cool> yes????
[09:36] <rysiek> you can aither use the XXX format - x's being digits from 0 to 7
[09:37] <cool> like this-> sudo chmod xxx /usr
[09:37] <rysiek> or the long format: [ugoa] [+=-] [rwxs]  - for example: u=rwx
[09:37] <rysiek> yep
[09:37] <cool> ic
[09:37] <rysiek> do a man chmod
[09:37] <cool> thanks bro!!!
[09:37] <cool> ur great
[09:37] <rysiek> it's all wel;l documented there
[09:37] <cool> brb
[09:38] <rysiek> good thing I didn't tell him about -R flag... yet :)
[09:39] <w4eg_illuminatus> YES!
[09:39] <rysiek> ?
[09:41] <cool> hallo!
[09:42] <cool> guys!
[09:42] <cool> how can i back to it's original setting
[09:42] <cool> :p
[09:44] <w4eg_illuminatus> you have to remmeber them
[09:44] <w4eg_illuminatus> "ctrl-z" won't do it
[09:44] <w4eg_illuminatus> you have to do a chmod again
[09:45] <cool> ok
[09:45] <sid> hi
[09:46] <sid> make
[09:49] <rysiek> sid: "make"?
[09:50] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop$ ./psotnic -p
[09:50] <samoura> bash: ./psotnic: cannot execute binary file
[09:50] <samoura> but i am trying to excute source fail :S?
[09:50] <sid> in breezy, make does not work properly how do i make "make" work
[09:50] <samoura> psotnic-current
[09:51] <samoura> on the dekstop
[09:53] <robotgeek> sid: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:53] <rysiek> samoura: does the file have permissions for being executed?
[09:53] <samoura> hnmm jea :?
[09:54] <samoura> i have all on the desktop
[09:54] <rysiek> and are you sure you are the user that is allowed to execute it? :)
[09:54] <rysiek> that's not the point
[09:54] <rysiek> hmmm
[09:54] <samoura> yess i am sure
[09:54] <rysiek> open Konsole
[09:54] <rysiek> cd ~/Desktop
[09:54] <samoura> than?
[09:54] <samoura> than?
[09:55] <rysiek> ls -l | grep psotnic
[09:55] <rysiek> and paste it here :)
[09:55] <sid> wow it worked, thank you robotgeek
[09:55] <robotgeek> sid: sure, np
[09:55] <samoura> it is a list
[09:55] <samoura> drwxr-xr-x  7 samoura samoura   4096 2006-02-21 10:54 psotnic-current
[09:56] <rysiek> do you have a "psotnic" file on your desktop?
[09:56] <samoura> yes it is psotnic-current
[09:56] <rysiek> then you don't have that file - you have potnic-current :]
[09:57] <rysiek> in Konslole try:
[09:57] <rysiek> ./psotnic-current -p
[09:58] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop$ ./psotnic-current -p
[09:58] <samoura> bash: ./psotnic-current: is a directory
[09:58] <samoura> ;S
[09:59] <rysiek> heh
[09:59] <rysiek> cd psotnic-current
[09:59] <samoura> than?
[09:59] <rysiek> (how on earth did I miss that "d" :) )
[09:59] <samoura> whot ?
[09:59] <rysiek> do you have any files you want to execute?
[10:00] <samoura> no
[10:00] <samoura> just all the fails in the psotnic-current
[10:00] <rysiek> I don't get something here
[10:00] <rysiek> "
 samoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop$ ./psotnic -p
[10:01] <rysiek> do you have a file named "psotnic" on your desktop?
[10:01] <samoura> yes
[10:01] <samoura> it is
[10:01] <samoura> remove it ?
[10:01] <rysiek> nooo
[10:01] <samoura> k
[10:01] <rysiek> so you didn't give me the whole list, did you ;)
[10:01] <rysiek> ls -l | grep psotnic
[10:01] <rysiek> the whole list this time, please
[10:01] <rysiek> :)
[10:02] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop/psotnic-current$ ls -l | grep psotnic
[10:02] <samoura> -rw-r--r--  1 samoura samoura     0 2005-04-29 17:52 class-psotnic.cpp
[10:02] <martinjh99> Morning!  Trying to compile KOffice 1.5Beta and am looking for the imagemagick dev packages anyone know what they are called?  Can't find them on packages.ubuntu.com
[10:02] <rysiek> samoura: that's not all, is it :_
[10:02] <rysiek> :)
[10:02] <samoura> yes it is now
[10:03] <samoura> before was a full list
[10:03] <robotgeek> martinjh99: apt-get buil-dep koffice1.5 (if that is the packagename), will get you all the dependencies :)
[10:03] <rysiek> previously I got only the directory name
[10:03] <martinjh99> RobotGeek - Ta!
[10:04] <samoura> there you have it in your private message
[10:04] <rysiek> a, that's ok now ;)
[10:04] <samoura> what than ?
[10:04] <rysiek> hmmm
[10:04] <rysiek> maybe: file psotnic
[10:05] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop/psotnic-current$ file psotnic
[10:05] <samoura> psotnic: ERROR: cannot open `psotnic' (No such file or directory)
[10:05] <rysiek> wait
[10:05] <rysiek> cd ..; file psotnic
[10:05] <rysiek> (wrong dir - forgot we're in psotnic-current)
[10:05] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop/psotnic-current$  cd ..; file psotnic
[10:05] <samoura> psotnic: gzip compressed data, was "psotnic-0.2.5-linux-static.tar", from Unix, max compression
[10:06] <rysiek> huh?
[10:06] <rysiek> how exactly did you get this file?
[10:06] <samoura> there is a fail in the desktop psotnic-0.2.5-linux-static.tar
[10:06] <samoura> ;S
[10:06] <rysiek> yes, I see
[10:07] <rysiek> I am talking about the file "psotnic"
[10:07] <[Vampis] > ellu
[10:07] <samoura> :S
[10:07] <samoura> vampis is this noteventime ?
[10:07] <rysiek> samoura: join #rysiek-samoura
[10:08] <[Vampis] > I'm I the only one that have problems with Ktorrent in kde 3.5.0 ? It locks itself all the time, and I have to kill the process the get it upp and running again, and then it locks itself again :P
[10:08] <[Vampis] > samoura: excuse me ?
[10:08] <samoura> nothing
[10:08] <[Vampis] > ehum , ok
[10:09] <robotgeek> [Vampis] : can you try upgrading to kde 3.5.1, i have no such issues with ktorrent
[10:10] <Tonio_> hello
[10:10] <[Vampis] > robotgeek: I have deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main in sources.list and 3.5.0 is all i get
[10:11] <robotgeek> [Vampis] : http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php
[10:12] <[Vampis] > ahaaa
[10:13] <[Vampis] > thanks m8 :)
[10:13] <[Vampis] > *running dist-upgrade*
[10:15] <[Vampis] > robotgeek: do you think it's enough to restart X or should i reboot the whole computer ?
[10:18] <robotgeek> [Vampis] : restart X is enough
[10:18] <[Vampis] > :)
[10:18] <[Vampis] > Errors were encountered while processing:
[10:18] <[Vampis] >  /var/cache/apt/archives/kdesdk-kio-plugins_4%3a3.5.1-0ubuntu0breezy1_i386.deb
[10:18] <[Vampis] > damn
[10:18] <jpatrick> apt-get install -f
[10:18] <[Vampis] > install -f is the shit
[10:19] <[Vampis] > jpatrick: way ahead :)
[10:20] <[Vampis] > *restarting X
[10:22] <[Vampis] > robotgeek: The kmail package was held back and now I cant run it :(
[10:22] <robotgeek> [Vampis] : try dist-upgrading again?
[10:22] <[Vampis] > yep
[10:22] <[Vampis] > The following packages have been kept back:
[10:22] <[Vampis] >   kmail
[10:22] <[Vampis] > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[10:23] <[Vampis] > trying to installing it manually
[10:23] <robotgeek> [Vampis] : hmm, weird
[10:23] <[Vampis] > aah, now its working
[10:23] <[Vampis] > :D
[10:23] <[Vampis] > *trying ktorrent*
[10:30] <[Vampis] > robotgeek: seems to work
[10:30] <[Vampis] > thanks a bunch
[10:30] <robotgeek> [Vampis] : cool, upgrading mostly works, lol
[10:33] <[Vampis] > and there it hanged itself
[10:33] <[Vampis] > damn!
[10:34] <[Vampis] > And now the torrent server thinks I'm downloading it twice
[10:34] <robotgeek> [Vampis] : file a bug, please :)
[10:35] <[Vampis] > kde.org ?
[10:41] <jpatrick> [Vampis] : fixed in dapper
[10:41] <SirKillalot> how do I find out which program calls a dcop function all the time?
[10:41] <SirKillalot> it is fucking my system
[10:41] <robotgeek> !coc
[10:41] <ubotu> coc is probably the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[10:42] <robotgeek> SirKillalot: ^^
[10:42] <robotgeek> SirKillalot: probably amarok
[10:42] <SirKillalot> why should amarok call dcop to change its OWN labels? :=)
[10:43] <[Vampis] > jpatrick: is it ?
[10:43] <jpatrick> [Vampis] : yes.
[10:43] <SirKillalot> and no, its still being called when stopping amaroK
[10:43] <[Vampis] > jpatrick: nice, just have to w8 to april then :)
[10:58] <rysiek> !SABDFL
[10:58] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rysiek
[10:58] <rysiek> !sabdfl
[10:58] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rysiek
[10:59] <jpatrick> http://wiki.kubuntu.org/MarkShuttleworth
[11:06] <[Vampis] > hm, when I try to clear downloaded torrents in Ktorrent it warns me that It will remove the downloaded files to, how do I remove It without removing the downloaded files ?
[11:08] <SirKillalot> I think I'll die... everytime I try to look at the "properties" or "share" of a directory using konqueror it crashes
[11:08] <SirKillalot> EVERYTIME
[11:10] <[Vampis] > I have had problem with konqeror chrasing since i dont know when
[11:10] <rysiek> jpatrick: sorry, was busy googlin'n'wikipedin' for it ;)
[11:10] <rysiek> but thanks :)
[11:11] <hummillion> any body know what could cause my laptop to occassionaly not automatically turn off when shutting down
[11:11] <hummillion> ?
[11:12] <rysiek> gotta go guys
[11:12] <rysiek> cu all some time later :)
[11:13] <visik7> hummillion: got same problem
[11:13] <visik7> hummillion: I use ctr+alt+stamp+ins+o
[11:13] <visik7> and than got shutdown
[11:14] <hummillion> what does "ctr+alt+stamp+ins+o" do? and what does the stamp stand for?
[11:15] <hummillion> stamping the ground?
[11:15] <robotgeek> any one running dapper here?
[11:15] <pulver> visik7: is that a keybinding? looks kinda long
[11:15] <visik7> pulver: yes right into the kernel
[11:15] <visik7> hummillion: stamp->print
[11:15] <hummillion> ooooo...
[11:16] <visik7> so called sysrq
[11:16] <pulver> oki
[11:16] <hummillion> so what does that do special that the normal shut down procedure doesn'y?
[11:16] <hummillion> *t
[11:16] <visik7> hummillion: they just poweroff the machine
[11:17] <visik7> sysrqs
[11:18] <hummillion> well thats got to be better for it than just holding down the power button till it turns off.
[11:19] <hummillion> do you by any chance know hao to get hibernate to recover as well?
[11:19] <visik7> hibernate works whell for me (on a ubuntu machine)
[11:20] <visik7> but there is no hibernate button in logout dialog of kde
[11:20] <visik7> so never tried
[11:20] <hummillion> yea, i'm using kubuntu
[11:20] <hummillion> and things like hibernate, suspend and standby are provided by the power managment software
[11:21] <hummillion> called KLaptop (original name)
[11:23] <visik7> I've a klaptopdaemon installed but no klaptop applet in the applet list
[11:26] <hummillion> yea, i have that installed two, and the applet for the task bar
[11:27] <hummillion> but the screen in it does say its all experimental, so can't expect too mcuh
[11:31] <Pastis> Salut
[11:34] <robotgeek> !fr
[11:34] <ubotu> Vas a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais
[11:35] <robotgeek> Pastis: :)
[11:36] <Pastis> thx ^
[11:45] <hibatsu> hi
[11:45] <hibatsu> how can I setup konqueror to open zip files in konqueror itself instead of opening ark?
[11:57] <TurKisH_BoY> hi
[11:57] <SuPeRmEgApRo> hi
[11:58] <TurKisH_BoY> how are you
[12:01] <SuPeRmEgApRo> badbadbadbadbadbadbadbad
[12:02] <TurKisH_BoY> why ?
[12:02] <ejofee> is the linux kernel better than kde?
[12:02] <ejofee> (that is a silly question, just starting a debate)
[12:03] <hibatsu> how can I setup konqueror to open zip files in konqueror itself instead of opening ark?
[12:03] <hibatsu> and how can I install rar und unrar in dapper?
[12:03] <ejofee> hibatsu: isn't it the same as in breezy?!
[12:07] <ubijtsa2> ejofee: comparing the kernel with KDE? that's like asking if an elephant is a better car than a sofa
[12:07] <hibatsu> nah, the packages don't exist
[12:08] <hibatsu> and do you know how to setup konqueror to open zip files in konqueror itself instead of opening ark?
[12:10] <ejofee> ubijtsa2: i am just wondering (and amazed) why we call ubuntu "ubuntu linux" instead of "ubuntu kde" or "ubuntu gnome". i think the kernel is unessential for most people. i myself almost never used linux. i mostly use kde.
[12:10] <ejofee> linux can't even edit a text file
[12:10] <ejofee> more than this, i never watched movies on linux
[12:11] <ejofee> even trying to listen to web radio on linux would sound stupid for most of us.
[12:11] <ubijtsa2> ubuntu = ubuntu with gnome, kubuntu = ubuntu with kde (as the default)
[12:11] <ejofee> yes, but why adding "linux" after "ubuntu"?
[12:11] <ejofee> why not "ubuntu x11"
[12:11] <ejofee> ?
[12:11] <ubijtsa2> ejofee: in case someone produces ubuntu with the Hurd ?
[12:11] <ejofee> why should i find the kernel mentioned all the time
[12:12] <hibatsu> because
[12:12] <hibatsu> without the kernel nothing works
[12:12] <hibatsu> x11 without the kernel is a heap of shit
[12:12] <ejofee> hibatsu: linux without x11 is a heap of shit too
[12:12] <hibatsu> well sure
[12:12] <ubijtsa2> ejofee: you probably find that most people in here refers to ubuntu or kubuntu.. we all know that the kernel is Linux
[12:12] <ejofee> hibatsu: i don't think something is more essential just because it's lower level
[12:13] <hibatsu> but without the kernel it wouldn't even boot
[12:13] <pulver> ejofee: negative you can watch those movies in frame buffer console and stuff
[12:13] <ejofee> hibatsu: then we have the processor wich is even lower level
[12:13] <hibatsu> there would be no hardware support
[12:13] <hibatsu> but the processor has nothing to do with the operating system
[12:13] <ubijtsa2> for people that don't know Ubuntu, mentioning that it is Linux means they know *what* it is, sort of anyway
[12:13] <hibatsu> exactely
[12:13] <ejofee> pulver: who watches movies in the frame buffer console and how specific is the buffer console to the kernel itself?
[12:14] <ubijtsa2> ejofee: if you use SDL, libsvga or Qtopia, you don't use X11 at all
[12:14] <Tonio_> very interesting debate............. although I think it is not that that will make ubuntu better anyway.....
[12:15] <ubijtsa2> anyway, arguing about why Linux is even mentioned is something for the -advocacy channel..
[12:15] <Tonio_> and why ubuntu and not kawaspu ???
[12:15] <Tonio_> or chloubiswip ?
[12:15] <hibatsu> because ubuntu
[12:15] <hibatsu> means humanity
[12:16] <hibatsu> in bemba
[12:16] <hibatsu> I thnk
[12:16] <hibatsu> think
[12:16] <pulver> ejofee:  i do :) check out http://geexbox.org/  , well fb must be supported in the kernel etc...
[12:16] <Tonio_> hibatsu: I know that, I was just thinking that a debate on "why adding linux"
[12:16] <Tonio_> 1/ is not of any use
[12:16] <Tonio_> 2/ will not change anything
[12:16] <hibatsu> sure
[12:16] <Tonio_> 3/ has no response :)
[12:16] <hibatsu> it would rather help
[12:16] <jean> tu pu
[12:16] <hibatsu> to tell me
[12:16] <hibatsu> how can I setup konqueror to open zip files in konqueror itself instead of opening ark?
[12:17] <jean> hguygtgt-y
[12:17] <Tonio_> it is "Ubuntu GNU/Linux" because it is it's name, as my one is Anthony, basta !
[12:17] <jean> jgdfvcted
[12:17] <jean> je parle francais
[12:17] <ubijtsa2> !fr
[12:17] <ubotu> Vas a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais
[12:17] <jean> merci
[12:20] <Tonio_> hibatsu: on dapper ?
[12:21] <hibatsu> yes
[12:21] <Tonio_> yes, I changed that :)
[12:21] <Tonio_> well, it is set with the package kubuntu-default-settings
[12:21] <Tonio_> to make all compressed files managed the same way
[12:21] <hibatsu> so a dpkg-reconfigure will do?
[12:21] <Tonio_> if you want to change this, let me check how to do it with your profile
[12:21] <Tonio_> hibatsu: nope, let me check
[12:22] <hibatsu> ok
[12:22] <hibatsu> tell me what info you need
[12:24] <Tonio_> hibatsu:  cp /usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-zip.desktop ~/.kde/share/mimelnk
[12:25] <Tonio_> that will take the original definition of the zip protocol and should overwrite the kubuntu default settings
[12:27] <Tonio_> there are three levels for the configuration, the profile first, then kubuntu-default-settings, then /usr/share
[12:27] <Tonio_> so supposedly it will work, can you confirm ?
[12:29] <hibatsu_> found anything?
[12:29] <Tonio_> hibatsu yes
[12:29] <Tonio_> can't  you see my previous posts ?
[12:29] <Tonio_> cp /usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-zip.desktop ~/.kde/share/mimelnk
[12:42] <rysiek|pl> identify indywidualista2
[12:44] <hibatsu_> that's all?
[12:44] <rysiek|pl> hi all
[12:44] <hibatsu_> hi
[12:45] <rysiek|pl> anybody has an idea how to tell KDE *not to* automagically open the inserted cd's/plugged in mem devices in Konqueror?
[12:45] <rysiek|pl> it's quite annoying, really :)
[12:45] <hibatsu_> well
[12:45] <hibatsu_> I think you can set it in the system settings
[12:45] <hibatsu_> actually it isn't automatic
[12:45] <rysiek|pl> yeah. where? :)
[12:46] <hibatsu_> it must be storage devices or something like that
[12:46] <hibatsu_> I've only got it in german right now
[12:46] <hibatsu_> in the hardware section
[12:46] <hibatsu_> of the kde system settings
[12:46] <hibatsu_> or which version are you using?
[12:46] <hibatsu_> breezy? dapper?
[12:47] <kokurya-kai> isn't it eable medium application autostart after mount?
[12:47] <kokurya-kai> enable ^^
[12:47] <rysiek|pl> Breezy
[12:47] <rysiek|pl> kokurya-kai: ?
[12:48] <kokurya-kai> system settings - storage media - advanced
[12:48] <kokurya-kai> but i'm not sure, because i'm not @ my machine yet
[12:48] <hibatsu_> yeah
[12:48] <hibatsu_> there you can switch it off
[12:48] <rysiek|pl> no such thing as "storage media" in System Settings
[12:49] <rysiek|pl> o_O
[12:49] <kokurya-kai> ?
[12:49] <hibatsu_> strange
[12:49] <hibatsu_> so what is there in the hardware category?
[12:49] <kokurya-kai> jup definitly strange
[12:49] <hibatsu_> should be the one most right
[12:50] <rysiek|pl> most right in Hardware?
[12:50] <rysiek|pl> gimme a sec
[12:50] <servjew> hi... so wheres that file i can edit so that samba will join my windows network, and where i can specify static IP adress for the network card ?
[12:51] <rysiek|pl> hibatsu_: here's what I have in Hardware (translating from Polish): Keyboard, Mouse, Joystick, Printers, Display, Laptops & Power, Digital Camera, Pilots
[12:52] <kokurya-kai> hm strange but i should be there?! maybe in poland u are not allowed to have storage media ;)
[12:52] <rysiek|pl> roflmao
[12:53] <hibatsu_> or this part was only introduced in dapper...
[12:53] <rysiek|pl> probably
[12:53] <rysiek|pl> shit
[12:53] <rysiek|pl> any other ideas?
[12:53] <kokurya-kai> no its in breezy too
[12:53] <kokurya-kai> because it is at my homecomputer
[12:53] <kokurya-kai> hm...
[12:54] <hibatsu_> really strange
[12:54] <rysiek|pl> I'm trying to hack my mp3player (format the memory so that it actually *uses* it;) ) but I need to plug it in and out every 5 mins
[12:54] <rysiek|pl> and Konquerror poppin-up everytime is not the best thing I need ;)
[12:54] <kokurya-kai> yeah that sucks a little bit ^^
[12:55] <rysiek|pl> tell me about it :)
[12:55] <rysiek|pl> besides - although there might be no GUI tool, there must be some config file somewhere on the system
[12:56] <rysiek|pl> (I really prefer editing the files by myself - at least I know what's going on)
[12:56] <kokurya-kai> u have kde 3.5 or?
[12:56] <rysiek|pl> waita
[12:56] <rysiek|pl> 3.4.3
[12:56] <kokurya-kai> a k thats the problem....
[12:57] <rysiek|pl> it's my "production environment", therefore I was reluctant with installing the new KDE ;)
[12:57] <kokurya-kai> i think in 3.5 its standart
[12:58] <rysiek|pl> nevertheless, there still is, somewhere on the system, a file that contains a magic line that fires konqueror
[12:58] <kokurya-kai> may be u can install the plug in manually its named "storage media 0.6"
[12:58] <rysiek|pl> trying :)
[12:58] <kokurya-kai> so time for something to eat cu l8er
[12:58] <kokurya-kai> :)
[12:58] <rysiek|pl> cu, thx :)
[12:59] <rysiek|pl> nope, haven't got it in repo's, I'm afraid :/ anybody else?
[01:02] <hibatsu_> try kde-apps.org
[01:03] <rysiek|pl> heh. the point is: I don't want to install a GUI, I would just like to knwo, which file which line is it :)
[01:03] <rysiek|pl> that would be the ideal solution
[01:03] <hibatsu_> sorry, haven't got the slightest idea
[01:05] <rysiek|pl> I'l have to live with that untill I install KDE3.5, then :)
[01:09] <rysiek|pl> ok, thanks guys
[01:09] <rysiek|pl> gtg
[01:09] <rysiek|pl> cu all
[01:09] <hibatsu_> cya
[01:10] <callahano> how effective anti-keyloggers actually are?
[01:13] <Riddell> callahano: not as effective as just installing a secure operating system like kubuntu
[01:15] <callahano> Riddell: what do you mean? afaik, kubuntu is not meant to be secure, but user-friendly.
[01:15] <callahano> Riddell: the two purposes are mutually exclusive these days.
[01:31] <ubuntu> someone knows why the new live cd of kubuntu ) the one woth kde 3.5.1 and Koffice 1.5 beta is not on englsh?
[01:32] <poimen> someone knows why the new live cd of kubuntu ) the one woth kde 3.5.1 and Koffice 1.5 beta is not on englsh?
[01:46] <stendon> hello erverybody!
[01:58] <SirKillalot> hello
[01:59] <Hobbsee> hey SirKillalot
[01:59] <Ardarandir> hi
[01:59] <Ardarandir> und wech.... besuch...
[02:23] <solock>
[02:23] <solock>
[02:41] <ronaldson40> how do i enable JETDIRECT PRINTING IN KUBUNTU
[02:41] <ronaldson40> this is urgent
[02:47] <admrl> ronaldson40 you using hplip..?
[02:47] <admrl> alot of settings and such can be configured using hplip ive never heard of jet direct printing but it just might work
[02:50] <ronaldson40> wat is hplip
[02:51] <ronaldson40> admrl r u there
[02:51] <admrl> it has all the settings for printing and such
[02:51] <admrl> its really useful
[02:54] <ronaldson40> how do i download it
[02:55] <ronaldson40> is hplip a software
[02:55] <ronaldson40> ??
[02:56] <admrl> yes
[02:56] <admrl> sorry ive been reading
[02:56] <admrl> sudo apt-get install hplip
[02:56] <admrl> in the command line
[02:57] <ronaldson40> after i do this, where can i access it from
[02:57] <ronaldson40> the Settings page??
[02:57] <admrl> kmenu>run command>hplip
[02:58] <admrl> then you need to ad your user name to the lp admin group
[02:58] <admrl> i need to read up on what its called
[02:58] <admrl> !flood
[02:58] <ubotu> flood is, like, totally, for pasting, please use http://pastebin.com , http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or #flood here on freenode.
[02:59] <ronaldson40> wat is my default username and password
[02:59] <admrl> brb
[02:59] <ronaldson40> its asking me a password
[02:59] <admrl> ronaldson40 you need to add your user to the admin group
[03:00] <ronaldson40> i am using root as the user
[03:00] <ronaldson40> I am logged in as root
[03:01] <admrl> ronaldson40 sure but your not printer admin
[03:01] <admrl> or it would work
[03:01] <ronaldson40> so how do i do it
[03:01] <admrl> there is a groups list in /etc/
[03:01] <admrl> i dont remember what its called i think its groups tho
[03:02] <admrl> when you find that grep it for lp
[03:02] <admrl> and tell me what you get
[03:02] <admrl> cat /etc/groups | grep lp
[03:03] <admrl> do you get anything
[03:03] <ronaldson40> root@toshiba:~# cat /etc/groups | grep lp
[03:03] <ronaldson40> cat: /etc/groups: No such file or directory
[03:03] <ronaldson40> I am getting this
[03:03] <jpatrick> :o
[03:04] <admrl> i dont know what the groups file is in etc
[03:04] <admrl> jpatrick do you know..?
[03:04] <admrl> i need to be on my computer :(
[03:05] <jpatrick> cat /etc/group | grep lp
[03:05] <admrl> its just group :D
[03:05] <admrl> yep
[03:05] <SiriusA> hey, i think my transluency doesnt work correct. often active windows are transparent, but i regarding to my config, they shouldnt...
[03:06] <ronaldson40> jpatrick where do i enter this
[03:06] <ronaldson40> in the terminal..
[03:06] <jpatrick> yes
[03:06] <ronaldson40> or in the run command
[03:06] <admrl> yes
[03:06] <jpatrick> terminal
[03:06] <admrl> the terminal
[03:06] <ronaldson40> root@toshiba:~# cat /etc/group | grep lp
[03:06] <ronaldson40> lp:x:7:cupsys
[03:06] <ronaldson40> lpadmin:x:104:
[03:06] <ronaldson40> i am getting this
[03:07] <admrl> ya add your user after lpadmin:x:104:username
[03:07] <admrl> and lp:x:7:cupsys, username
[03:07] <admrl> like that
[03:07] <ronaldson40> so which file should i open for this
[03:08] <admrl> sudo kate /etc/group
[03:08] <admrl> just like that
[03:08] <admrl> in the terminal
[03:08] <admrl> that will open the file
[03:08] <jpatrick> KDESU!
[03:09] <ronaldson40> root:x:0:
[03:09] <ronaldson40> daemon:x:1:
[03:09] <ronaldson40> bin:x:2:
[03:09] <ronaldson40> sys:x:3:
[03:09] <ronaldson40> adm:x:4:
[03:09] <ronaldson40> tty:x:5:
[03:09] <ronaldson40> disk:x:6:
[03:09] <ronaldson40> lp:x:7:cupsys
[03:09] <jpatrick> !pastebin
[03:09] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[03:09] <ronaldson40> mail:x:8:
[03:09] <ronaldson40> news:x:9:
[03:09] <ronaldson40> uucp:x:10:
[03:09] <ronaldson40> man:x:12:
[03:09] <ronaldson40> proxy:x:13:
[03:09] <ronaldson40> this is my first few lines
[03:09] <admrl> ya ronaldson you need to find those lines
[03:10] <ronaldson40> so instead of lp:x:7:cupsys I need to change it to
[03:10] <admrl> no
[03:10] <ronaldson40> ??
[03:10] <admrl> you just add a comma after cupsys and put your user name after it
[03:10] <ronaldson40> k
[03:11] <admrl> yep
[03:11] <ronaldson40> will it ask for a passwordd
[03:11] <admrl> same thing with lpadmin
[03:11] <ronaldson40> when i click adminstration
[03:11] <admrl> ronaldson40 use your user name and password
[03:11] <admrl> the one that you added in
[03:11] <ronaldson40> lpadmin:x:104:,root
[03:12] <ronaldson40> this is correct rite
[03:12] <ronaldson40> put a comma and then root for lpadmin
[03:13] <vega-> why root?
[03:14] <admrl> vega- i think hes using root
[03:14] <admrl> as a username
[03:15] <admrl> for lpadmin you just need to type root after the :
[03:15] <admrl> lpadmin:x:104:root
[03:15] <admrl> just like that
[03:15] <admrl> !plf
[03:15] <ubotu> well, plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf, or for i386 users only
[03:16] <admrl> well i hope i helped him
[03:16] <admrl> lol
[03:16] <admrl> i dont understand why hplip isnt added by default
[03:17] <admrl> its an amazing program
[03:18] <kujeger> I'm having an odd problem, when I lock the screen none of my passwords let me unlock it. Where do I reset/change it?
[03:19] <vega-> on the command line, type passwd. But there's probably also some nice gui for it, dunno
[03:23] <kujeger> vega: thanks, that fixed it
[03:30] <visik7> where is the klaptop applet ? I can't find it
[03:46] <ronaldson40> hi
[03:46] <ronaldson40> when i click the Users and Groups in the System Settings
[03:47] <ronaldson40> I getting this message " The module Users & Gropus could not be loaded"
[03:47] <admrl> ronaldson40 did you get hplip working..?
[03:47] <ronaldson40> nope
[03:47] <ronaldson40> Its still asking me for password
[03:47] <ronaldson40> i enter <username> as root
[03:47] <ronaldson40> and password
[03:47] <admrl> did you put user and your root password
[03:47] <admrl> your root password..?
[03:47] <ronaldson40> where i do that
[03:47] <ronaldson40> in etc/groups itself
[03:48] <admrl> no
[03:48] <admrl> i dont know what that screen looks like
[03:48] <admrl> if i was on my omputer i could help you alot more
[03:48] <ronaldson40> can i paste images on this server
[03:50] <ronaldson40> However i am getting this error when i click the Users and groups option
[03:50] <ronaldson40> do i need to reinstall Kunbuntu for this
[03:50] <ronaldson40> or removing it and reinstall a package in Adept would do...
[03:54] <admrl> i have no clue
[03:57] <ronaldson40> k
[03:58] <ToyMan2> hmm.  what's the full address for the breezy-update repository?
[03:58] <ToyMan2> is ubuntu breezy-update separate from kubuntu breezy-update?
[04:01] <admrl> ToyMan2 do you mean backports
[04:01] <ToyMan2> no.. looking at the channel topic
[04:02] <ToyMan2> "Breezy fixes in breezy-updates"
[04:02] <ToyMan2> just trying to make sure I have the correct repositories included
[04:03] <visik7> Tonio_: no
[04:06] <Tonio_> hi visik7
[04:06] <arrinmurr> ToyMan2: kubuntu is part of ubuntu, so they share the same repositories
[04:06] <visik7> hi
[04:06] <visik7> kubuntu ubuntu edubuntu xubuntu are the same distro with different installers
[04:07] <ToyMan2> k, thanks arrinmurr
[04:09] <kakei> hi i downloaded http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-4/dapper-live-i386.iso but i dont have CD's already but i have Dvd's if i burn it on a DVD it will work?
[04:10] <visik7> yes
[04:10] <kakei> visik7, 100% sure?
[04:11] <visik7> 200%
[04:13] <kakei> visik7, why so sure?
[04:13] <kakei> :P
[04:13] <visik7> what kind of question is it ?
[04:13] <kakei> dunno maybe u try it  dunno just to know
[04:16] <visik7> ...
[04:31] <visik7> how can I add event using hal/udev/hotplug/don'tknow ?
[04:31] <visik7> how can I script events using hal/udev/hotplug/don'tknow ?
[04:37] <DrCurl> Hello
[04:38] <hardman> TjiPp
[04:38] <DrCurl> If I understand the topic correctly, if I install kubuntu today, I will get  Amarok 1.4 beta 1, KDE 3.5.1 and KOffice 1.5
[04:38] <DrCurl> ?
[04:38] <RoC_MM> speaking of kubuntu
[04:39] <RoC_MM> why does Samba ask me for a username and passsword when connecting to a samba share.  The user account on the Windows computer has "no" password.
[04:41] <RoC_MM> Sounds right DrCurl
[04:41] <admrl> DrCurl: no amarok 1.4 beta was just released
[04:41] <DrCurl> wow, talk about up to date distro!
[04:41] <RoC_MM> you bet
[04:41] <admrl> with a kubuntu package
[04:41] <visik7> apt-cache unmet |wc -l
[04:41] <visik7> 1385
[04:41] <visik7> is this normal ?
[04:46] <noteventime> 'ello
[04:47] <noteventime> (EE) Failed to load module "GLcore" (module does not exist, 0), shouldnt this give very BAD performance in OpenGL apps?
[04:47] <noteventime> Or not even let them run?
[04:47] <RoC_MM> hmmm... morrow I get between 300 and 500 results for that query
[04:47] <noteventime> !glcore
[04:47] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, noteventime
[04:47] <RoC_MM> what exactly does this query give back?  what is it counting?
[04:48] <nsk> how to login as root in kubuntu terminal ?
[04:48] <RoC_MM> sudo su
[04:48] <visik7> nsk: sudo -i
[04:49] <noteventime> or simply sudo if its only one command :)
[04:49] <noteventime> !su
[04:49] <ubotu> it has been said that su is see !sudo
[04:49] <noteventime> !sudo
[04:49] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[04:53] <ozgeki60> ss
[04:54] <ozgeki60> mairi
[04:54] <ozgeki60> mairicim
[04:54] <ozgeki60> write
[04:54] <ozgeki60> yo
[04:54] <ozgeki60> joel
[04:54] <guemai44> hi
[04:55] <joel> hi
[04:55] <joel> I think I am not the joel who you think
[04:55] <guemai44> fock u
[04:55] <ozgeki60> lol
[04:55] <ozgeki60> mairicm
[04:55] <ozgeki60> sorry
[04:56] <guemai44> don't u show her
[04:56] <ozgeki60> lol
[04:56] <robotgeek> !coc
[04:56] <ubotu> it has been said that coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[04:56] <ozgeki60> stop be like that
[04:56] <guemai44> or i'll fock u
[04:56] <dikatlon> Are you talking to me?
[04:56] <ozgeki60> lol
[04:56] <ozgeki60> lol
[04:56] <ozgeki60> nah
[04:56] <guemai44>  i 'm serious
[04:56] <ozgeki60> i di talk to
[04:57] <noteventime> haha
[04:57] <dikatlon> Okey, my username is Joel but my nick is dikatlon
[04:57] <robotgeek> guemai44: please behave yourself
[04:57] <dikatlon> so if I have someone angry cause one other using that username - I am sry
[04:57] <robotgeek> dikatlon: not your problem
[04:57] <dikatlon> robotgeek: Ok
[04:58] <noteventime> Anyone here tried xorg-air?
[04:59] <noteventime> !member
[04:59] <ubotu> from memory, member is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/community/processes/newmember
[04:59] <jpatrick> been there done that^
[05:00] <robotgeek> jpatrick: oh
[05:00] <jpatrick> robotgeek: i was talking about the link
[05:00] <guemai44> stop niw ekin
[05:02] <ozgeki60> fgfk
[05:03] <robotgeek> ozgeki60: please stop spamming, really
[05:03] <acolai35> hey weh the go an?
[05:03] <ozgeki60> nah
[05:03] <ozgeki60> i got a question
[05:03] <ozgeki60> robotgeek
[05:03] <ozgeki60> one quesiton
[05:03] <robotgeek> ozgeki60: ask away
[05:03] <ozgeki60> how do i do a private chat