[03:56] <DarkWell> are there any way to slipstream you own liveCD ? i mean so you have removed unwanted programs and added wanted programs at your liking ?
[03:56] <fizk__> Does anyone have Win7/Vista duel boot working?
[03:56] <mazda01> nytek_, you think i am stupid?? i already did that.
[03:56] <sebsebseb> fizk__: Vista and Ubuntu
[03:56] <yates> which flavor of ubuntu is 2.6.24-24-lpia ?
[03:56] <mazda01> nytek_, gdm's config states to run that desktop environment also,
[03:56] <sebsebseb> fizk__: well used to be, now another distro
[03:56] <mazda01> nytek_, thanks, but others are trying to help me
[03:57] <fizk__> sebsebseb, oh hey man, you're still around :)
[03:57] <sebsebseb> fizk__: yeah
[03:57] <jrib> PrototypeX29A: dpkg-deb --control  it seems
[03:57] <webbb82> does anyone know the command to paste high lighted text
[03:57] <nytek_> mazda01: i didnt know you tried that, are you trying to start a fight?
[03:57] <sebsebseb> fizk__: have Vista or Windows 7 installed first, then put Ubuntu on, and you should be ok
[03:57] <islington> mazda01 nytek_ calm down
[03:57] <jrib> PrototypeX29A: but it seems like you are asking a strange question.  i.e. you want to do something but are going about it the wrong way
[03:57] <fizk__> sebsebseb, i don't what i need to do, but Grub always just reloads when I choose Vista/Win7 during boot
[03:57] <digitalaxis> Ok im back
[03:57] <fizk__> sebsebseb, always has for v1, and now again for v2
[03:58] <islington> mazda01: I am still convinced that the problem is with gdm
[03:58] <mazda01> nytek_, no, just get annoyed by others butting in when someone is already receiving help. i know you you didn't realize that though. sorry, just frustrated
[03:58] <fizk__> sebsebseb, yeah i installed in that order
[03:58] <sebsebseb> fizk__: not sure, what do you want Windows for anyway?
[03:58] <PrototypeX29A> jrib: there is no source package, i would have to read the source of make-kpkg, which would not be much more of a help i guess
[03:58] <islington> for one, I do not think that ubuntu uses custom.conf, can someone confirm that?
[03:58] <fizk__> sebsebseb, just incase
[03:58] <Dorkins> How can i install ubuntu inside windows?
[03:59] <PrototypeX29A> jrib: thanks for the hint
[03:59] <mazda01> islington, ok, well, at least a little progress. i now have xfce right-click menu and I can access system settings. let me see what I can do now from a gui to fix this default session problem
[03:59] <sebsebseb> fizk__: in case of what?
[03:59] <fizk__> sebsebseb, i guess i could run in vmware
[03:59] <edbian> Dorkins, wubi ?
[03:59] <islington> mazda01:  okay
[03:59] <sebsebseb> fizk__: yeah I was going to put something about virtual machines
[03:59] <sebsebseb> fizk__: Virtualbox :)
[03:59] <jrib> PrototypeX29A: did you see the last thing I said?
[03:59] <dragon> edbian: I'm reporting him to the ops this time.
[04:00] <fizk__> sebsebseb,  VBox is nice........but vmware is pretty solid
[04:00] <vvor> mazda01: islington just remove gdm & install gdm
[04:00] <sebsebseb> fizk__: so really you don't have a proper reason to want Windows still?  I mean for example a program that you can't get working in Wine
[04:00] <yates> is lpia the atom processor?
[04:00] <yates> lp - intel atom ?
[04:00] <fizk__> sebsebseb, not really
[04:00] <dragon> jrib: Dorkins is trolling and could you some of your attention.
[04:00] <PrototypeX29A> jrib: the --control thing? yes i did, thanks
[04:00] <sebsebseb> fizk__: Virtualbox can also use VMDK  files,   what VMware uses for it's virtual hard disk
[04:00] <jrib> PrototypeX29A: no: but it seems like you are asking a strange question.  i.e. you want to do something but are going about it the wrong way
[04:01] <fizk__> sebsebseb, well.....i actually needed it to run NetBeans at a decent speed
[04:01] <bobertdos> I know this one's all over the net, but I'd like some person to person contact. Has anyone found a workaround for getting Samba and Windows 7 to successfully authenticate the login?
[04:01] <edbian> dragon, What did he do?  I didn't notice anything
[04:01] <islington> mazda01: any luck with gui?
[04:01] <PrototypeX29A> jrib: there is no sourcepackage containing the control scripts
[04:01] <yates> has anyone here used ubuntu on the mini 10?
[04:01] <PrototypeX29A> jrib: with exception of make-kpkg
[04:01] <jrib> PrototypeX29A: I understand this.
[04:02] <sebsebseb> fizk__: I got VIsta on here at the moment just in case,  I will want it for something where a vm won't cut it in the future.   However I have done  Ubuntu only before on an old computer,  in like 2006 or something, and yeah it's quite a nice feeling really, for a lot of us.
[04:02] <bobertdos> Basically, Samba and Windows 7 will not authenticate. I've already tried a few registry edits per the web.
[04:02] <Dorkins> anyone?
[04:02] <edbian> sebsebseb, Long time no talk! :)
[04:02] <islington> Dorkins: what was the question?
[04:02] <dragon> edbian: Dorkins.. you can't convince him to use wubi. He'll keep asking it over and over.
[04:02] <Dorkins> How can i install ubuntu inside windows?
[04:02] <sebsebseb> edbian: yeah
[04:02] <edbian> dragon, That sounds annoying
[04:03] <ctmjr> Dorkins: asked and answered
[04:03] <burzki> jrib, you maybe missed the very beginning.  if i understand right .. PrototypeX29A updated the kernel and lost wlan capacity and had to take it apart and put it back together to get it back, now trying to figure out what went wrong.
[04:03] <yates> does anyone here know anything about ubuntu?
[04:03] <fizk__> sebsebseb, I was doing some BlueTooth programming, i think the drivers weren't working in vmware/vbox.
[04:03] <Dorkins> wubi says you boot into it not run it inside windows
[04:03] <dragon> !anyone > yates
[04:03] <edbian> yates, There are many of us that know a ton
[04:03] <jrib> burzki: thank you
[04:03] <assas1n> guys
[04:03] <dragon> jrib: I hope you're watching Dorkins
[04:03] <sebsebseb> fizk__: it's a bit odd if you can't just boot up Windows from  the old Grub or the new,  unless of course it's not set up properly to boot it up
[04:03] <yates> ubottu: i did not see a pm
[04:03] <webbb82> does anyone know how to change paste hightlighted txt from shift ins    to somthing els like shift z   anyone know wheren to do this
[04:03] <islington> Dorkins: that is wrong. check out the screenshots : http://wubi-installer.org/screenshots.php
[04:04] <eddy> hey
[04:04] <dragon> webbb82: where are you trying to paste?
[04:04] <bastid_raZor> dragon: are you like the little tattle tail boy who cried wolf?
[04:04] <assas1n> is it possible to link 2 computers via USB in such a way that the USB link emulates a CD-ROM?
[04:04] <eddy> how can I cut a part of video file (AVI)?
[04:04] <Dorkins> from the wubi page: How do I select whether to run Windows or Ubuntu?
[04:04] <Dorkins> You can choose to run Windows or Ubuntu at the system boot screen.
[04:04] <digitalaxis> Yates: Dont ask a question about a question. If you need support just ask your REAL question and we will answer it for you:)
[04:04] <sebsebseb> !grub2 | fizk__
[04:04] <webbb82> dragon, any window
[04:04] <yates> i did.
[04:04] <PrototypeX29A> jrib: but you are right, i dont understand anything of the perl-code :)
[04:04] <Dorkins> says it right in the wubi help page
[04:04] <dragon> webbb82: Ctrl + C to copy, Ctrl + V to paste.
[04:04] <burzki> linera, changing clothes and coming back w/ a new nick?  go home
[04:04] <jrib> Dorkins: if you want to use ubuntu *inside* windows then use a virtualizer like virtualbox
[04:04] <assas1n> for example the host computer emulates a CD/DVD-ROM interface via USB
[04:04] <webbb82> i want to change it to a single key
[04:05] <Dorkins> and this virtual box thing isn't working
[04:05] <digitalaxis> yates: Asking if anyone knows anything about ubuntu in an UBUNTU SUPPORT irc isnt really a question yates
[04:05] <islington> Dorkins: I see you want to use both ubuntu and windows at the same time?
[04:05] <Dorkins> yes
[04:05] <fizk__> sebsebseb,  at first, os-prober wasn't even detecting Win7
[04:05] <yates> is 2.6.24-lpia the version of ubuntu hardy for atom processor, e.g., the mini 10
[04:05] <sebsebseb> Dorkins: a good idea, is to have  Windows  inside Ubuntu in a virtual machine :)
[04:05] <fizk__> sebsebseb, so I used the win7 install DVD to repair the boot info
[04:05] <jrib> Dorkins: if you need help running virtualbox in windows, you should try #vbox or ##windows
[04:05] <islington> hmm. what is wrong with the virtualbox idea?
[04:05] <Dorkins> i want to learn linux before installing linux by itself
[04:06] <islington> what jrib said Dorkins
[04:06] <digitalaxis> Yates: One Moment please.
[04:06] <dragon> islington, jrib: I've pointed him to virtualbox an hour ago.
[04:06] <DarkWell> what id the default fs type ubuntu used for a default installation ? im just using the live boot so im curious what it uses
[04:06] <bastid_raZor> !pm | dragon
[04:06] <Dorkins> it won't boot linux
[04:06] <fizk__> sebsebseb, that worked, but grub just reloads when i choose win7 .
[04:06] <DarkWell> sed s/id/is/
[04:06] <dragon> bastid_raZor: what do you mean?
[04:06] <sebsebseb> fizk__: ok well hardly anyone uses it anymore, but there is an alternative to Grub,  LILO
[04:06] <jrib> Dorkins: you have a question for #vbox then
[04:06] <Dorkins> i selected the os as linux and version as ubuntu and it doesn't boot
[04:06] <fizk__> sebsebseb, if there's some way to debug what's going on, i could do some googling
[04:06] <sebsebseb> fizk__: if your up for it, you could try installing LILO in Ubuntu
[04:07] <fizk__> sebsebseb, lol :)
[04:07] <jmyers> anyone with an idea why my terminal freezes when I try to run 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper' ?  The kids over at #ndiswrapper are all asleep.
[04:07] <eddy> hi.. how can I cut a portion of a video file in ubuntu..(avi file)
[04:07] <fizk__> sebsebseb, too old school for me
[04:07] <assas1n> does anyone know if it's possible to emulate a USB CD-ROM device on one PC and connect that to another PC?
[04:07] <Dorkins> but my problem is getting ubuntu install inside windows
[04:07] <sebsebseb> fizk__: at least one distro I know of, as far as I know is stil using lilo by default
[04:07] <bastid_raZor> dragon: are you having trouble understanding the factoid ubottu sent you about pm'ing someone without asking permission?
[04:07] <dragon> jmyers: run another terminal and try dmesg | tail
[04:07] <islington> Dorkins: actually your probelm seems to be getting virtualbox to act right.
[04:07] <Dorkins> and not where i boot into linux or windows
[04:07] <fizk__> sebsebseb, which one?
[04:07] <sebsebseb> fizk__: there is also some way to get the Windows boot loader, booting Ubuntu
[04:07] <losha> eddy: try avidemux, a good simple editor
[04:08] <DarkWell> jmyers, have you tried sudo su first and then do modprove ndiswrapper ?
[04:08] <DarkWell> modprobe even
[04:08] <dragon> !ot > bastid_raZor
[04:08] <digitalaxis> Yates: Are you referring to the “linux-source-2.6.24” IPIA?\
[04:08] <gotmilk82> Does anyone know of a good way to update bios on a ubuntu machine when the BIOS installer is only in windows?  VirtualBox won't work :(.
[04:08] <sebsebseb> fizk__: VectorLinux  it's Slackware based, and  I guess Open Office is still on their paid for CD, but people that know what they are doing can install it themselves anyway.  Oh and this is off topic.
[04:08] <Porota> [  Hola ]----`,'.-
[04:08] <yates> digitalaxis: i may be... i got the string from the response to "uname -r"
[04:09] <PhantomLink> !es Porota
[04:09] <Porota> [  ;) ]----`,'.-
[04:09] <PhantomLink> !es ! Porota
[04:09] <dragon> gotmilk82: some BIOS update programs come as a bootable update CD image.
[04:09] <Dorkins> i guess no one knows how to install ubuntu inside windows
[04:09] <jmyers> DarkWell no, I haven't.  Of course when I ran a sudo modprobe ndiswrapper JUST NOW, it sorta worked.  gave me an error:WARNING ALL config files need a .conf  /etc/modprobe.d will be ignored in a future release.
[04:09] <blakkheim> PhantomLink: |, not !
[04:09] <PhantomLink> Oh, right, sorry.
[04:09] <jrib> Dorkins: why are you ignoring what several people have told you?  Do you actually want help?
[04:09] <jmyers> and then a similar warning for /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper
[04:09] <islington> Dorkins: we do, but we are not confident answering virtualbox problems
[04:09] <digitalaxis> Yates: Well your going to be more specific, only thing you would use the “linux-source-2.6.24” for really is making your own kernel
[04:10] <DarkWell> jmrodri-gone, ok there is the answer then
[04:10] <fizk__> sebsebseb, i started with Slackware......but i wanna make this work in grub since it should be working
[04:10] <digitalaxis> Yates: And if your able to code your own kernel, your not asking for help in ubuntu support lol
[04:10] <gotmilk82> dragon, I wish mine was that way...all I get is a .exe to be run in windows/DOS
[04:10] <DarkWell> jmyers , there is the answer i think
[04:10] <fizk__> sebsebseb, one question is, everyone says Vista/Win7 needs tobe the first partition
[04:10] <quietone> Can anyone help me with the gnome-volume-control
[04:10] <dragon> gotmilk82: you might want to try wine
[04:10] <Dorkins> they said wubi which says that you boot into either linux or windows. and one said virtual box which the linux didn't boot
[04:11] <fizk__> sebsebseb, it's at the beginning of my HDD but it's recognized as /dev/sda2
[04:11] <jmyers> DarkWell: so should I cp ndiswrapper ndiswrapper.conf in that directory?
[04:11] <gigglefight> hello!
[04:11] <losha> gotmilk82: there are freedos disks out there. Also, try #windows or #hardware
[04:11] <bgjsl> hi guys
[04:11] <islington> I wonder what happened to mazda?
[04:11] <jrib> Dorkins: and then remember when I told you to go to #vbox for help with vbox?
[04:11] <fizk__> sebsebseb,  could that be the problem?
[04:11] <DarkWell> jmyers, meaning modprobe dosent return proper signal to the calling app meaning it might hang if it is actually waiting for a proper exit signal
[04:11] <dragon> !hi | gigglefight
[04:12] <gigglefight> I'm interested in the xmacro program. I've got many questions on how to create a macro on Ubuntu 9.10, problem: click won't work when recording macro. Is there a way to manually create a file? hi dragon!
[04:12] <ziesemer> mz2))1vml
[04:12] <DarkWell> the error message is a hint what you need to do i think.. never been using ndiswrapper
[04:12] <sebsebseb> fizk__: yeah they do,  I thought yeah maybe, but probably doesn't really matter, but then recently I re installed Vista on this computer twice, both times it wiped out my seperate  Ext4 /home partition, at first I was like what happended?  then later found out what had happended, when the Vista installer argued where it wanted to install  itself, in a partition that was being used or something in fact,  I told it to go on the free space, but yep
[04:12] <gigglefight> I'd like to create the file using the coordinates and the commands, but where is the editor? is it gedit?
[04:12] <islington> Dorkins: final thing I can think of is http://www.colinux.org/
[04:12] <sebsebseb> it removed the home.   First time round I had got hold of some data that I had no back up of,  and put it on the new home, that it then later also deleted.  Second time round I coudn't recover everything it seems, but lost nothing important anyway.
[04:13] <jmyers> DarkWell: you just escaped my realm of understanding.  That error message tells me that if those files don't have .conf on the end of them, they will be ignored in future releases.  Future releases of what?  I do not know.
[04:13] <xclong> hi
[04:13] <Dorkins> i said ubuntu.
[04:13] <Dorkins> I want to install ubuntu inside windows
[04:13] <gigglefight> there's a problem with xmacrorec2 and ubuntu 9.10
[04:13] <gigglefight> :(
[04:13] <bgjsl> hi darkwell
[04:13] <gigglefight> I did it today with Wubi.
[04:13] <DarkWell> i think in future releases of the kernel
[04:14] <[[thufir]]> how do I run /etc/profile.d/rubygems1.8.sh ?  I just added that file.  I prefer not to reboot.
[04:14] <dragon> gigglefight: it's probably a bug you're looking at
[04:14] <DarkWell> bgjsl, hey
[04:14] <bgjsl> dorkins}
[04:14] <islington> Dorkins: join the vbox room, they will help you
[04:14] <dragon> gigglefight: did it work with prevoius versions of ubuntu?
[04:14] <bgjsl> plse usde wubi
[04:14] <gigglefight> a bug? when will it be fixed? this is the first time using it.
[04:14] <ctmjr> DarkWell: jmyers it is just a warning of things to come it does not effect the current kernel
[04:14] <bgjsl> that is a cool sol for yr inquiry
[04:14] <fizk__> sebsebseb, so if i somehow get Vista/Win7 as /dev/sda1, i should be set.......... how do I make it partition 1 without reinstall?
[04:14] <gigglefight> I've managed to put ubuntu and windows 7 on my computer :) i absolutely love it.
[04:15] <dragon> gigglefight: #ubuntu-bugs might have a better idea. If it's been filed, it will probably show up in a google search with right keywords.
[04:15] <islington> gigglefight: :)
[04:15] <jmyers> too weird.  It hasn't worked in 3 days, and I come home from work and it just works tonight.  Flakey.
[04:15] <assas1n> I gather by the lack of responses nobody knows a direction to point me in..?
[04:15] <gigglefight> Wubi was simple. thing is that you have to put the .iso and wubi in same folder.
[04:15] <darcy> Hey all how do I get DVD playback on Karmic?
[04:15] <jrib> !dvd | darcy
[04:15] <DarkWell> bgjsl, ?
[04:15] <islington> assas1n: sorry what was the ?
[04:15] <Dorkins> what about installing ubuntu like a program?
[04:15] <fizk__> sebsebseb, btw, did you loose important stuff when windows wiped it out? :|
[04:15] <PrototypeX29A> re
[04:15] <sebsebseb> fizk__: not sure if you can move around partitions, like it seems you want to do
[04:15] <jmyers> assas1n: Just wait a few minutes and ask your question again.
[04:15] <sweetandy> Dorkins: Ubuntu isn't a program, it's an operating system.
[04:15] <sebsebseb> fizk__: no I put at the end that I didn't lose anything important
[04:15] <assas1n> islington: I want to link 2 computers via USB, and emulate a CD-ROM device on one of those computers
[04:15] <dragon> gigglefight: if you can't find a bug with same problem as yours, you should definitely file one.
[04:15] <fizk__> sebsebseb,  good good
[04:16] <KWhat_Mobile> how do you start eth0
[04:16] <gigglefight> oh on Windows 7? i'm not too sure. but open source programs are out there for Windows.
[04:16] <digitalaxis> Dorkins: You cant install ubuntu "like a program" lol.
[04:16] <KWhat_Mobile> pos wont bring it up even with wirless stopped
[04:16] <gigglefight> oh. I know that the problem exsists.
[04:16] <sebsebseb> fizk__: what I get for deciding I wanted to destroy a Vista clean install a bit and have some fun, before doing a proper re install, hmm
[04:16] <islington> assas1n: I have never heard of any such thing being done, what are you trying to accomplish out of curiosity?
[04:16] <DarkWell> Dorkins, i think you need a linux loader,, i recall slackware had such technique to boot up/install linux from windows
[04:16] <gigglefight> just was trying to work around it
[04:16] <Dorkins> everyone keep telling me i can
[04:16] <jmyers> Dorkins: The EASIEST way to run Ubunut, INSIDE of Windows, is to use Virtual Box.  I do the opposite on my box.  My box is Ubuntu, with a Virtual Machine that runs WinXP.  My hardware AMD Athlon 64 is poorly supported, and some things I still need Windows to do.
[04:16] <KWhat_Mobile> yo eth0
[04:16] <DarkWell> Dorkins, havent looked further into it so dont know what you are required to mimic that trick
[04:17] <assas1n> well islington, I wish to install OpenSolaris on my other box, without using another blank DVD (because I can't find one).
[04:17] <gigglefight> what is this virtural box you speak of?
[04:17] <Dorkins> virtual box failed. i created the ubuntu system in virtual box and it never booted
[04:17] <Dorkins> so I'm done with virtual box
[04:17] <jmyers> gigglefight: it's a program.  Google it and check it out.
[04:17] <gigglefight> I did!
[04:17] <gigglefight> :)
[04:17] <gigglefight> of an hour.
[04:17] <gigglefight> or maybe more longer.
[04:17] <[-jon-]> would runing quotas cause a signifigant overherad for disk io?
[04:17] <islington> assas1n: cant you just move your cd drive, to your other comp?
[04:18] <DarkWell> hmm
[04:18] <sebsebseb> fizk__: I don't have really, really important data on this computer.  Going back to Grub it has always been a pain.
[04:18] <jmyers> wow, that was a pretty rude response to my attempt to help eh?
[04:18] <assas1n> islington: that computer has a DVD-ROM drive. The problem is, I don't have any blank DVDs ;)
[04:18] <DarkWell> are those max 16 partitiions limit due to the ahrdware of sata disks or is it something else limiting it ?
[04:18] <islington> assas1n: oy sorry brainfart.
[04:19] <assas1n> lol happens to the best of us mate
[04:19] <assas1n> hmm
[04:19] <jmyers> ok, well back to trying to get my wireless card to work. ;)
[04:19] <assas1n> maybe I could boot off LAN.. let me check to see if I have any crossover cables
[04:19] <DarkWell> assas1n, any spare4 usb stick ?
[04:19] <PhantomLink> dragon: :S the cd is taking a while to boot
[04:19] <islington> assas1n: any wasy that either of the comps can clone your harddrive?
[04:20] <fizk__> sebsebseb, you'd think that this should be pretty well ironed out by now, eh
[04:20] <sebsebseb> fizk__: A pain for a lot of us.  Hmm maybe your uhmm config file or whatever it was instead of menu.lst for Grub 2 isn't set up properly, hence Windows not booting up properly.
[04:20] <losha> assas1n: unetbootin allows a cd-less install of various things, dunno if solaris is one of them though. Can you plug the disk for the new machine into the running one and do an install that way?
[04:20] <assas1n> islington, not that I can think of... if they could, not sure how that would solve anything
[04:20] <dragon> assas1n: DVD-ROM drives can read CDs.
[04:20] <burzki> jmyers, whats w/ your wifi?
[04:20] <assas1n> I think my BIOS has support for booting via ethernet
[04:20] <KWhat_Mobile> god i hate ubuntu
[04:20] <DarkWell> hmm
[04:21] <assas1n> dragon: that still requires a blank DVD/CD, which I do not have.
[04:21] <DarkWell> KWhat_Mobile, you dont ?
[04:21] <losha> KWhat_Mobile: ok, here's your money back...
[04:21] <sebsebseb> KWhat_Mobile: Hate is a strong world,  so you probably mean dislike,  what happended?
[04:21] <islington> KWhat_Mobile: what happened?
[04:21] <dragon> assas1n: create a LiveUSB
[04:21] <OptimaD> how can i install windows fonts with apt-get ?
[04:21] <DarkWell> hate is a strong word
[04:21] <dragon> losha: +1
[04:21] <Kamokow> How can i get ustream to work with karmic?
[04:21] <dragon> !hate | KWhat_Mobile
[04:21] <Bookman> Ok, thanks for all of your help in the past but due to 9.10s faults like AMD bridge, sound, and so many others, I have to leave.
[04:22] <sebsebseb> dragon: ah yes their's a factoid
[04:22] <KWhat_Mobile> somethings seriosuly jacked up with your networking
[04:22] <sebsebseb> !details | KWhat_Mobile
[04:22] <DarkWell> KWhat_Mobile, is it downloading probs ?
[04:22] <assas1n> I agree with ubottu. So you dislike some points regarding Ubuntu. Not every OS is perfect. They all have their positives and negatives. I would dislike the fact that Ubuntu doesn't natively run .exe executables if I were a gamer.
[04:22] <sebsebseb> fizk__: I guess I can't really help, well good luck
[04:22] <islington> OptimaD: sudo aptitude install msttcorefonts
[04:23] <fizk__> sebsebseb,  i tried doing it manually (copied from a grub2 tutorial),  and using os-prober ... both have the same result.  The website was pretty much what os-prober creates
[04:23] <bgjsl> that is right darkwell
[04:23] <dragon> assas1n: have you checked wine?
[04:23] <dragon> !wine > assas1n
[04:23] <fizk__> sebsebseb, what's interesting tho, is that the MacOSX boot loader can boot Vista! lol
[04:23] <bgjsl> i am agreed too
[04:23] <sebsebseb> fizk__: what's os-prober ?
[04:23] <assas1n> !stfu > dragon
[04:23] <KWhat_Mobile> for example wireless wpa wpa2 stopped working and the os refuese to get a lease or bring up for waht ever reason the ehternet port
[04:23] <sebsebseb> fizk__: your on a Mac?
[04:23] <KWhat_Mobile> bring it up manually and it wont dole an ip to it
[04:23] <KWhat_Mobile> so by jacked i mean totally not working
[04:24] <dragon> assas1n: what was that supposed to mean?
[04:24] <Danielpk> How i can configure Ubuntu for dont boot with GNOME? i want only "terminal screen" :)
[04:24] <fizk__> sebsebseb, Ubuntu script to figure out what partitions you have and create configs for grub.cfg
[04:24] <DarkWell> what i would like is to slipstream an own liveCD
[04:24] <sebsebseb> fizk__: oh ok
[04:24] <atomicpoet> Wow, this is a lot of people in this room.
[04:24] <ziesemer> Danielpk: Install the server edition?
[04:24] <DarkWell> to containt exactly those apps i want
[04:24] <sebsebseb> !custom | DarkWell
[04:24] <fizk__> sebsebseb, x86 MacOSX (iDeneb, Kalayway,etc)
[04:24] <dragon> Danielpk: if you want only a terminal and no gui, install the package ubuntu-server
[04:24] <[[thufir]]> how do I run /etc/profile.d/rubygems1.8.sh without rebooting?
[04:25] <webbb82> i want to change the hotkey paste high lighted txt  from shift-isn to shift-z   where do i find that , or what would the commmand be to paste high lighted txt so i can setup a keybinding
[04:25] <KWhat_Mobile> well that shut everyone up
[04:25] <Danielpk> dragon, ziesemer, dont have other away? :P
[04:25] <sebsebseb> !remix | DarkWell
[04:25] <DarkWell> !custom
[04:25] <fizk__> sebsebseb, i installed MacOSX to do ffmpeg4iphone
[04:25] <atomicpoet> Danielpk: om the login screen, at the bottom, one of the selections is by default GNOME. Change it to xterm, and it will launch with only xterm.
[04:25] <losha> Danielpk: which os version are you running
[04:25] <sebsebseb> DarkWell: hmm
[04:25] <assas1n> dragon: you made a suggestion based on my reasoning, which was completely irrelevant to my problem
[04:25] <sebsebseb> DarkWell: there's some factoid for what you want to do
[04:25] <losha> Is ubottu down? I don't see any responses...
[04:25] <Danielpk> losha latest.. just downloaded.
[04:25] <sebsebseb> losha: that's since those two  aren't factoids
[04:25] <DarkWell> sebsebseb, the bot isnt alive ?
[04:26] <Danielpk> atomicpoet, It dont ask for user at startup.
[04:26] <assas1n> I'm not trying to be rude, but I know what wine is, and it still doesn't provide native execution
[04:26] <sebsebseb> losha: I got pm'd about that by the bot
[04:26] <dragon> !ping | losha
[04:26] <atomicpoet> Danielpk: are you running Karmic?
[04:26] <OptimaD> islington, what do u think is the best way for me to manage/control this ubuntu pc from my win7 computer both visually and command? what progs shud i setup on this box and win7?
[04:26] <sebsebseb> losha: aren't factoid triggers I should say
[04:26] <losha> sebsebseb: hi sebsebseb. Did ubottu not use to say something when a non-trigger was issued?
[04:26] <assas1n> mkay, time to look up how PXE boot works :P
[04:26] <DarkWell> sebsebseb, hehe i got time to kill so if there is possibility to customize ones own liveCD im more than happy try it out =)
[04:27] <sebsebseb> losha: don't know
[04:27] <chu_> Hey guys, I changed Karmic to aut-login, but it still needs my password after the gnome session has booted up to activate the wireless, kinda defeats the purpose. Anyway, does anyone know how I can set it to "remember" the password?
[04:27] <dragon> assas1n: You totally don't know what wine is. And you need to learn to behave.
[04:27] <islington> OptimaD: er what? could you clarify what is meant by managae/control? OptimaD
[04:27] <sebsebseb> DarkWell: you can, but not sure the link or the factoid trigger for the bot it seems, that triggers the info
[04:27] <Psinetic> how do i kill processes by terminal again?
[04:27] <assas1n> dragon: you're still blabbering on about something that is completely irrelevant to anyone's problem. I know what wine is. It doesn't provide native execution of .exe files.
[04:27] <Danielpk> atomicpoet, yeah. 9.10 version
[04:27] <islington> Psinetic: kill command , or xkill
[04:27] <OptimaD> OptimaD,  kind of like VNC but i also want to setup ftp on this omputer and i wnat full access from my win7 computer
[04:27] <DarkWell> !flexible
[04:28] <dragon> Psinetic: killall <processname> or kill <pid>
[04:28] <fizk__> sebsebseb, btw, do you still use a swap partition? it's taking up precious primary partition space :(
[04:28] <DarkWell> !customize
[04:28] <KWhat_Mobile> ifup eth0 ignoring unknown interface eth0 LOL
[04:28] <DarkWell> !personalize
[04:28] <KWhat_Mobile> its in there ifconfig -a
[04:28] <islington> OptimaD: well ssh + samba and you have full control
[04:28] <sebsebseb> fizk__: I don't need to use a SWAP personalley, since I am not going to hibernate
[04:28] <fizk__> sebsebseb,  and system info is saying it's not using swap at all
[04:28] <losha> Danielpk: 9.10 (karmic) then. In the past I've renamed /usr/sbin/gdm and /usr/sbin/gdm-binary to stop them being executed at login. You will get a login prompt instead of a gui screen...
[04:28] <sebsebseb> fizk__: and have enough RAM to not need to use one
[04:28] <atomicpoet> Daniel: look at this screen. At the bottom, where it says sessions, the default is GNOME. Change it to xterm. http://www.ubuntugeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/3.png
[04:28] <sebsebseb> fizk__: on this computer,  with 1GB, and the other as well with 2GB
[04:29] <will1> how to let my 8.10 support general 107 keyboard ??
[04:29] <Psinetic> dragon, islington, it's telling me that the process can't be found...o.0
[04:29] <fizk__> sebsebseb, i have 2GB mem, thinking of tossing the swap
[04:29] <dragon> Psinetic: what process is it?
[04:29] <sebsebseb> fizk__: how big is your hard disk?
[04:29] <DarkWell> i think i found something thanks yo your customize word
[04:29] <DarkWell> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[04:29] <steven_Office> helllo everyone, I have a small problem I just install the NVidia drivers form System/Admin/Hardware and now after rebooting its crashing. How do I get to the command line and grub to change the boot options
[04:29] <Psinetic> it's pidgin
[04:29] <fizk__> sebsebseb, 500GB West.Dig
[04:29] <sebsebseb> DarkWell:  that looks like it,  when just looking at the url
[04:29] <KWhat_Mobile> ok so yes hate
[04:29] <KWhat_Mobile> indeed
[04:30] <quietone> KWhat_Mobile: I had success using ubuntu forums (some good guides there) and the application wicd for networking.  I just followed them.
[04:30] <KWhat_Mobile> with passion and prejudices
[04:30] <DarkWell> thanks
[04:30] <DarkWell> ill check it
[04:30] <islington> Psinetic: use xkill
[04:30] <dragon> Psinetic: run `ps -ef |grep pidgin` to get the pid of pidgin and then `kill <pid>`
[04:30] <atomicpoet> Hello from Ubuntu Vancouver LoCo.
[04:30] <sebsebseb> DarkWell: ok np
[04:30] <KWhat_Mobile> quietone: no it use to work and now it doesnt so there is an update issue
[04:30] <webbb82> when i hit Gconf-editor  it says cant be found is this bad??????????
[04:30] <KWhat_Mobile> nothing was chagned
[04:30] <burzki> chu_, a full post in the forums .. see if i can find it again ..
[04:30] <islington> Psinetic: scratch that dragon 's way was better
[04:31] <quietone> KWhat_Mobile: I don't have the skills to help with that. And I always do a clean install.
[04:31] <PhantomLink> dragon: xubuntu won't boot or install
[04:31] <will1> anyone knows how to let my 107 keyboard work on ubuntu 8.10????????????????????help...................
[04:31] <DarkWell> now it feels like it would be workable to make an "efficient" work liveCD
[04:31] <dragon> !details | PhantomLink
[04:31] <yates> what is the applet for configuring the firewall under ubuntu hardy
[04:31] <PhantomLink> I keep getting stuck at the startup screen where is asks what language and whether to just try or install
[04:31] <FelipeS> sup guys. anyone know of a guide to follow or program to figure out that allows me to use my netbook as a wifi extender/repeater?
[04:31] <sebsebseb> KWhat_Mobile: certain things that used to work in 9.04, don't in 9.10
[04:31] <yates> i should say, what is the command line ?
[04:32] <yates> i thought it would be system-config-firewall, but that doesn't work
[04:32] <EastDallas> webbb82: try it with a lower case 'g'
[04:32] <Psinetic> dragon, it's not killing it :S http://pastebin.com/d658a7178
[04:32] <Psinetic> it shows that it did, but it's still not dead
[04:32] <webbb82> ya
[04:32] <DarkWell> PhantomLink, does anything else work to boot up on your computer ?
[04:32] <islington> yates: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ufw-uncomplicated-firewall-for-ubuntu-hardy.html
[04:32] <rcscomp> Would anyone have an idea why I might get really slow download speeds from a vmware workstation guest to a machine on the network?  All other various network connections work at expected speeds (i.e. network <- host, host <-> guest, guest <- network).
[04:32] <PhantomLink> Can yeah
[04:33] <dragon> Psinetic: kill -9 24812
[04:33] <PhantomLink> I think it's because of the cd I used
[04:33] <dragon> Psinetic: don't kill 24399, that's something else
[04:33] <dragon> Psinetic: if -9 doesn't do the job, use -15 as last resort
[04:33] <FelipeS> sup guys. anyone know of a guide to follow or program to figure out that allows me to use my netbook as a wifi extender/repeater?
[04:33] <DarkWell> phantomcircuit, it is possible , when you boot it you can test the integrity of the cd
[04:33] <burzki> chu_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=192281&highlight=turn+keyring
[04:33] <PhantomLink> I've had problems with that batch of cds before
[04:33] <webbb82> i am trying to find where to change paste hight lighted txt from hitting shift-ins to shift-z  but i cant find where to do that   if i knew the command to paste highlighted txt i could just make a bind myself
[04:33] <chu_> thanks burzki
[04:33] <KWhat_Mobile> sebsebseb: we arnt even on .10 yet
[04:34] <PhantomLink> dragon: I will be back in about 10 minutes, I'm going to go buy some DATA cds
[04:34] <steven_Office> Can anyone help with this problem? Thanks  I have a small problem I just install the NVidia drivers form System/Admin/Hardware and now after rebooting its crashing. How do I get to the command line and grub to change the boot options
[04:34] <dragon> PhantomLink: It's not the CD causing the problem.
[04:34] <Psinetic> dragon, kill -9 28372 got it. what does -9 and -15 mean?
[04:34] <DarkWell> phantomcircuit, maybe you should dispose the entire batch jsut to save time ?
[04:34] <sebsebseb> KWhat_Mobile: hmm?
[04:34] <PhantomLink> dragon: really?
[04:34] <blakkheim> steven_Office: at the grub prompt you can press "e" to edit the config for that boot
[04:34] <burzki> chu_, w/ a caveat though .. in lucid, ubuntuOne - cloud filesharing uses the keyring.  so if you disable it .. not sure how that will work for you later.  fyi
[04:34] <sebsebseb> KWhat_Mobile: oh your on 9.04?
[04:34] <PhantomLink> Is that why ubuntu 8.04 didn't work on  that SAME batch, but worked from a different batch?
[04:34] <phantomcircuit> DarkEyes, maybe you should learn how to use tab complete
[04:34] <poseidon> I'm going to be getting a 3rd gen ipod touch for my 18th birthday.  From what I've read the best way to sync it would be to set up a vm with windows running itunes.
[04:34] <DarkWell> hey folks
[04:35] <EastDallas> steven_Office: do yo get to a terminal session login?
[04:35] <steven_Office> blakkheim, Thanks You
[04:35] <sebsebseb> KWhat_Mobile: sometimes stuff that doesn't just work in Ubuntu, does in other distros
[04:35] <poseidon> I've never set up a vm before.  Is virtual box the best for me to use?
[04:35] <PhantomLink> dragon: can I burn the iso to a dvd?
[04:35] <islington> Psinetic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kill_%28command%29
[04:35] <DarkWell> are there some trollers here jsut faking probs in here ?
[04:35] <steven_Office> EastDallas, no I do not
[04:35] <poseidon> also can I use an oem disk for a vm?
[04:35] <zjblabs> how would one test to see if aiglx is working properly?
[04:35] <blakkheim> poseidon: you will need to use the non-OSE version of VB if you want usb support
[04:35] <DarkEyes> ??
[04:35] <EastDallas> what blakkheim said
[04:35] <losha> DarkWell: sometimes....
[04:35] <islington> poseidon: yes an oem disk will work.
[04:35] <DarkWell> hmm
[04:35] <PhantomLink> dragon: ie. if i burned the image to one of my blank DVDs, can I still boot it?
[04:36] <dragon> PhantomLink: Music CDs are optimized for music, but it doesn't really matter. No, DVDs don't work as far as I know.
[04:36] <phantomcircuit> oh god the irony
[04:36] <phantomcircuit> DarkEyes, my bad
[04:36] <PhantomLink> dragon: then i'll be back
[04:36] <PhantomLink> that was the last blank, and we need more
[04:36] <phantomcircuit> DarkWell, maybe you should learn to use tab complete
[04:36] <poseidon> blakkheim, what does OSE mean?
[04:36] <blakkheim> poseidon: open source edition
[04:36] <yates> what is the method for controlling "services" under ubuntu hardy?
[04:36] <yates> in fedora, it's "chkconfig"
[04:36] <losha> PhantomLink: I've burnt cd images to dvds and booted them. Dunno if it's *guaranteed* to work though...
[04:37] <yates> well, wait
[04:37] <dragon> losha: and it's a waste of DVDs :)
[04:37] <yates> does ubuntu have a "service xyz start/stop" command?
[04:37] <dragon> yates: karmic does
[04:37] <blakkheim> poseidon: in other words you need to get the non-open source version of virtualbox from their site instead of installing it with aptitude if you want usb support (for the ipod)
[04:37] <FelipeS> sup guys. anyone know of a guide to follow or program to figure out that allows me to use my netbook as a wifi extender/repeater?
[04:37] <losha> dragon: round here, with sales, blank dvds are as cheap (and sometimes cheaper) than blank cds
[04:37] <Psinetic> thanks islington
[04:37] <yates> dragon: what is karmic?
[04:37] <DarkWell> have anyone of you tested to make a custom liveCD from a liveCD ? instead of making from an installed ubuntu . i mean jsut mount some partition with enough free space to work the stuff to build the .iso
[04:37] <dragon> !repeat | FelipeS
[04:37] <yates> ,karmic
[04:38] <yates> !karmic
[04:38] <dragon> yates: the latest version of ubuntu
[04:38] <yates> ah
[04:38] <poseidon> blakkheim, I understand.  The e for edition just threw me off :)  used to just foss
[04:38] <dragon> losha: wow, where's that?
[04:38] <scunizi> FelipeS: you need two nicks to do that
[04:38] <yates> dragon: before that, how were services controlled?
[04:38] <yates> this is older, i'm sure
[04:38] <dragon> yates: /etc/init.d/servicename start
[04:38] <FelipeS> scunizi, do what?
[04:38] <brummbaer> Darkwell, you talking about using remastersys?
[04:39] <dragon> yates: `lsb_release -a` for the version of your OS
[04:39] <DarkWell> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[04:39] <scunizi> FelipeS: use your netbook as a wifi extender/repeater
[04:39] <DarkWell> im checking that link
[04:39] <EastDallas> Felipes: I think scunizi meant NICs
[04:39] <losha> dragon: I saw a pack of 100 dvd-r blanks on sale today at officemax for $17.00 (california)
[04:39] <DarkWell> i have a blank harddisk
[04:39] <steven_Office> EastDallas, or blakkheim can I edit grub from the Live cd? I get grub loading then the ubuntu Icon then it creashes, I am unable to get to the grub option
[04:39] <DarkWell> running from a liveCD right now
[04:40] <gigglefight> xmacro anyone?
[04:40] <FelipeS> scunizi,  EastDallas, that makes more sense. yeah of course. I got a USB adapter too.
[04:40] <EastDallas> steven_Office: outside of my area of expertise, maybe blakkheim can help with that
[04:40] <dragon> losha: 100 CDs were for $8 here. Also, you should consider joining #ubuntu-california if you haven't
[04:40] <yates> is ubuntu hardy's remote desktop mechanism based on vino?
[04:40] <scunizi> !ics | FelipeS then this link might provide some of the info you need to make it work
[04:40] <DarkWell> my idea is to create an own liveCD i like better at startup so i can dispose the default one i got recently
[04:41] <blakkheim> steven_Office: yes you can, look in the /boot/grub directory of the hard drive. if it's grub-legacy it will be called menu.lst and if it's grub2 it will be grub.cfg (i believe)
[04:41] <EastDallas> FelipeS: http://help.lockergnome.com/linux/Linux-dumb-Ethernet-packet-repeater--ftopict492287.html
[04:42] <EastDallas> FelipeS: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=632062
[04:42] <nflava> whats the command to uninstall something in ubuntu, i suppose the opposite of apt-get install ?
[04:42] <blakkheim> nflava: aptitude remove <pkgname>
[04:42] <dragon> nflava: apt-get remove
[04:42] <nflava> excellent, thank you very much
[04:42] <blakkheim> nflava: with --purge if you want to completely remove it
[04:43] <brummbaer> darkwell, i haven't done it myself, but that article looks pretty thorough. any particular reason you want to create a custom live-cd (ie need it to be live, or just going for custom install w/o having to pare down?)
[04:43] <victorArana> Hi
[04:43] <victorArana> i have a little problem
[04:43] <nflava> well i installed some upnp servers and i didnt realize that they always run
[04:43] <losha> dragon: that's cheap, but when you figure cost-per-byte for general storage, I've stopped buying cds altogether...
[04:43] <nflava> so now i need to try to remover someof them
[04:43] <DarkWell> no install
[04:44] <steven_Office> blakkheim, k Thanks im using 9.10 32bit... I got to save this install some how... I got VMware load with all my office system setup and working now 3days of work... :( and not back up! grrrrr or imaged
[04:44] <victorArana> when i boot i just see a black screen
[04:44] <DarkWell> jsut liveCD with apps i use often and tools tht could be good for rescue and some scripts on the CD
[04:44] <EastDallas> I hope those articles help FelipeS
[04:44] <victorArana> i just upgrade to ubuntu 10.1
[04:44] <DarkWell> to automate tasks i might want to do for rescues
[04:44] <losha> nflava: apt-get remove <package>
[04:44] <FelipeS> EastDallas, hm well those are for extending a network with an ethernet adapter.
[04:44] <dragon> losha: yeah..
[04:44] <FelipeS> EastDallas, but thanks anyway, I guess I'll keep searching the forums.
[04:45] <DarkWell> that chroot trick seem much similar to what the gentoo users use to do when installing their systems at stage3 etc
[04:45] <EastDallas> FelipeS, are you using two wireless adapters?
[04:45] <prappl93> When I watch flash videos, they randomly flash... as in showing bits of black at random moments. The same thing occurs while playing flash games. Are there any known ways to fix this? I have Ubuntu 9.10
[04:45] <victorArana> what are you talking about?
[04:45] <FelipeS> EastDallas, that's my plan.
[04:45] <dragon> prappl93: there's a reason for calling it Flash.
[04:46] <losha> dragon: you beat me to it...
[04:46] <thezboe> I've just installed Ubuntu 9.10 on my EEE PC alongside Windows XP.  Everything worked fine until I tried to boot into XP and Grub gave an error.  Now it gives errors even when I try to boot into Ubuntu.  Something like Grub Error:  No such partition exists.  What's going on here
[04:47] <prappl93> dragon, losha, no. That isn't suppose to be what happens as far as I know...
[04:48] <losha> prappl93: you're right, it isn't. Actually, I haven't seen a lot of people reporting that particular symptom. Is there something unusual about your graphics card?
[04:48] <yates> single port
[04:48] <prappl93> losha, not as far as I know. I have an Intel card and lspci is showing it properly as the right model... is there possibly a newer driver I could get?
[04:48] <chu_> burzki, cheers it worked perfect
[04:49] <EastDallas> FelipeS, http://archive.atomicmpc.com.au/forums.asp?s=2&c=16&t=4428
[04:49] <dragon> prappl93: is it adobe's version of flash?
[04:49] <victorArana> I've just upgradre to Ubunto 9.10 but when a try to boot i just see a black screen?
[04:49] <prappl93> dragon, no. I installed flashplugin-nonfree earlier
[04:49] <EastDallas> FelipeS: That is precisely what you describe
[04:50] <dragon> prappl93: nonfree is adobe
[04:50] <prappl93> Then yes...
[04:50] <thezboe> I've just installed Ubuntu 9.10 on my EEE PC alongside Windows XP.  Everything worked fine until I tried to boot into XP and Grub gave an error.  Now it gives errors even when I try to boot into Ubuntu.  Something like Grub Error:  No such partition exists.  What's can i do?
[04:50] <EastDallas> FelipeS: this one is a more instructional: http://archive.atomicmpc.com.au/forums.asp?s=2&c=16&t=4705
[04:50] <dragon> prappl93: it's been replaced with adobe-flashplugin... package now, but same thing at this time. Hm, it should work normally.
[04:50] <dragon> !flash
[04:50] <blakkheim> !repeat > thezboe
[04:51] <EastDallas> balkkheim: is there a place where I can get a list of all the ubottu commands?
[04:51] <dumducky> How do I find and download .deb packages from repositories for manual installation *off-line*?
[04:52] <kc2net> purworejo
[04:52] <EastDallas> dumducky: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[04:52] <blakkheim> EastDallas: no idea bro, i only know a few from seeing them posted here so many times
[04:52] <prappl93> dragon, I apt-get'd it and it said "the package is not available, but referred to by another package."
[04:52] <EastDallas> blakkheim: same here
[04:52] <losha> prappl93: there is no newer intel driver that I know of than the one that comes in the repositories. You could google the card to double check though...
[04:52] <FelipeS> EastDallas, great, I'll check it out. Thanks for your help.
[04:52] <moymoy> is there a command that would list all the groups on my system?
[04:52] <EastDallas> FelipeS: Hope it works
[04:52] <Zargle> hey my sound isn't working any ideas?
[04:52] <dragon> prappl93: yes, you have the adobe thing. Don't know what's wrong.
[04:53] <dragon> !sound | Zargle
[04:53] <Zargle> !sound
[04:53] <Callum_> does anyone know how to configure LVMs from the command line?
[04:53] <dragon> !lvm | Callum_
[04:53] <victorArana> i see a black screen =/
[04:53] <victorArana> what is LVM?
[04:53] <moymoy> is there a command that would list all the groups on my system?
[04:53] <thezboe> can i get any help with grub?
[04:54] <kostkon> Zargle, ubuntu version?
[04:54] <Zargle> !sound
[04:54] <scunizi> !grub2 | thezboe
[04:54] <Zargle> still
[04:54] <dumducky> EastDallas TY... (please standby)
[04:54] <Zargle> ALSA
[04:54] <victorArana> can i get some help with my black screen pls?
[04:54] <burzki> !grub2 | thezboe blakkheim
[04:54] <Zargle> in the application it says "alsa plug-in"
[04:54] <Zargle> how do i make sure its working or anything
[04:54] <Zargle> how do i change it to ALSA mixer
[04:55] <fatface> I was pleasantly surprised how easy it was to connect my tv to my computer in ubuntu
[04:55] <stsm> GIMP doesnt seem to sense my tablets pressure....
[04:55] <stsm> why do i allways have EXTREME amounts of trouble with my graphics tablet?
[04:55] <stsm> every time i format its HELL getting it to work
[04:55] <moymoy> is there a command that would list all the groups on my system?
[04:55] <stsm> how can i fix it?
[04:55] <scunizi> stsm: there's a setting in gimp for the tablet.. I've forgotten where but it's there.
[04:55] <EastDallas> stsm: what brand of card?
[04:55] <stsm> scunizi: i know the setting
[04:56] <EastDallas> stsm: what brand of tablet?
[04:56] <stsm> EastDallas: card? :s
[04:56] <stsm> EastDallas: wacom volito 1
[04:56] <thezboe> moymoy: try cat /etc/group or cat /etc/shadow or something like that
[04:56] <Zargle> it says i cant make a cdrom... it says i need to... to udpate to the latest ubuntu
[04:58] <EastDallas> stsm: have you looked at this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom
[04:58] <stsm> yeah
[04:58] <dumducky> EastDallas: I can browse by individual packages, but how do I pull all the depends/recommends .debs from a metapackage?  (I'm trying to reinstall Gnome on a broken Jaunty system where the network adapter only works in Gnome)
[04:58] <stsm> found it it was GIMP EastDallas and scunizi
[04:58] <stsm> it was not enabled
[04:58] <stsm> working fine now
[04:59] <scunizi> stsm: :)
[04:59] <scunizi> stsm: inkscape also has the same basic type of settings if you use that as well.
[04:59] <stsm> scunizi: gonna make this charity portrait and i need to hurry before the event is over, sorry for the complaining :p
[04:59] <stsm> scunizi: rarily but thanx, nice to know
[05:00] <EastDallas> dumducky: you might have to find out what packages are included in the meta and download the all individually. :( unless someone else has a better idea...
[05:01] <dumducky> EastDallas: OMFGoodness!?!
[05:01] <steven_Office> blakkheim, Im open to more options I was able to change grub from Boot "0" to boot Option "2" witch should have kick me back to the default kernel but nothing
[05:01] <EastDallas> dumducky:  researching....
[05:01] <rgov> Is kde-core not available in Karmic?
[05:01] <blakkheim> steven_Office: i'm not very experienced with grub2, i still use regular grub
[05:02] <victorArana> hi
[05:02] <rgov> is it now kde-minimal?
[05:02] <kostkon> dumducky, you could try with keryx http://keryxproject.org/
[05:02] <dumducky> EastDallas: how would I do that without a working inet connection and pkg mgr on the target host?  =o(
[05:02] <mbrigdan> Anyone here know if/how I can spread a backup (with rsync/rsnapshot) over multiple drives?
[05:03] <Fezzler> Cannot get Jackd and Hydrogen to do anything but crackle
[05:03] <EastDallas> dumducky: why don't you just put a liveCD in the drive and add it as a repository to sources.list?
[05:03] <steven_Office> blakkheim, at the install time I have the option on witch grub to install? its grub.cfg
[05:03] <kostkon> dumducky, download all the debs of the metapackage, put them in a folder and then install them e.g. like this dpkg -i *.deb
[05:03] <EastDallas> Fezzler:  I'm gonna hide :p
[05:03] <EastDallas> Fezzler: lol
[05:03] <Fezzler> EastDallas>> :)
[05:03] <scunizi> mbrigdan: not sure but I was just reading about couchdb which is installed by default.. that might do it
[05:03] <Fezzler> EastDallas>> You're good
[05:04] <blakkheim> steven_Office: when you install ubuntu you can choose which you want to use, but i got an error when i tried regular grub there.
[05:04] <steven_Office> ic
[05:04] <blakkheim> steven_Office: i'd say just find someone  who knows a bit more about grub2 to help you out
[05:04] <Fezzler> EastDallas>> Crackling is more than I got before - so progress :)
[05:04] <dumducky> EastDallas: apt-cdrom refused to mount or add cdrom source and editing sources.list didn't work either -- apt said it couldn't be done manually
[05:05] <steven_Office> blakkheim, thanks for everything... have a great one .....
[05:05] <gotmilk82> i am upset with ubuntu  :(....I can't figure out a way to update my windows only BIOS flasher....virtualbox and qemu have failed me.  Wine won't run it either....
[05:05] <EastDallas> dumducky: can you mount the CD?
[05:05] <dumducky> kostkon: I need a package manifests to do that but the metapackages are not shown on packages.ubuntu.com (the 'Vrtual' section is empty
[05:06] <EastDallas> dumducky: can you mount a flash drive?
[05:08] <comp3> oz_888
[05:08] <dumducky> EastDallas: Not without editing /etc/fstab, but apt-cdrom does mount but then tells me it's not a ubuntu disk (it is, I ran the checksum boot applet and installed from it before).  Yes, plugdev does seem to recognize my USB sticks.
[05:08] <kostkon> dumducky, hmm. maybe keryx will be able to download the packages of the metapackage automatically. but you'll obviously need to run it on another system.
[05:08] <switch10_> gotmilk82: you wont be able to do it if the vendor doesnt make a Linux version
[05:10] <dumducky> kostkon: I'm using the liveCD on the target to get on IRtC and (hopefully) copy required .debs to target partition
[05:10] <stsm> i cannot find a program that can make periodic screenshots
[05:10] <switch10_> gotmilk82: If you need to flash your BIOS you might have to re install Windows just to do it...
[05:10] <stsm> any suggestions?
[05:10] <gotmilk82> well I am having trouble with laptop...on certain port replicators at the login the m button becomes a b repeating and the enter key becomes a ` repeating...only way to stop it is to boot off the replicator and then plop it on there after login :(  Very annoying
[05:10] <dumducky> kostkon: I'm going to look at that URI (keryx), BBIAB.   TY
[05:10] <EastDallas> dumducky: couldn't you add a usb stick as a repository?  I've never done it, but it seems feasible. It would be the easiest route...
[05:10] <kostkon> dumducky, np
[05:11] <switch10_> gotmilk82: is your keyboard setup properly?
[05:12] <scunizi> !aptoncd | dumducky EastDallas .. probably could be put on a usb stick as well.
[05:12] <switch10_> gotmilk82: on install i mean...
[05:12] <thezboe> I've just installed Ubuntu 9.10 on my EEE PC alongside Windows XP.  Everything worked fine until I tried to boot into XP and Grub gave an error.  Now it gives errors even when I try to boot into Ubuntu.  Something like Grub Error:  No such partition exists.  Any idea's what i can do?
[05:12] <gotmilk82> yes...works on most of the replicators, just not a few.  Very odd.  Dell claims that BIOS update should fix, but I can't get it on there... :(
[05:12] <dumducky> EastDallas: llas: same issue: what do I put on the stick (without downloading an entire .ISO at CDMA speeds)?  BBIAB (researching)
[05:14] <DarkWell> are there ways to make ipset work with the liveCD kernel ? apt-get install ipset wasnt enough apparently
[05:14] <EastDallas> dumducky: sounds like keryx is a good option...
[05:14]  * dumducky slaps forehead ... duh -- copy the ISO that  already have!!  (sorry EastDallas, I am *dum*ducky after all)
[05:14] <mbrigdan> scunizi: Hmm, that doesn't really seem like I could use it as backup software. Do you know if there's a way that I can make ubuntu treat 2 external usb drives as a single volume?
[05:15] <EastDallas> dumducky :!
[05:15] <scunizi> mbrigdan: the only thing I can think of is by using LVM.. but I reallly don't know that much about it.
[05:15] <EastDallas> dumucky good thinking...
[05:17] <vaio> nnm,nmnm
[05:17] <EastDallas> thezboe: I actually just helped someone with a similar problem the other night...trying to locate the ubuntuforums thread that solved the problem...
[05:18] <mbrigdan> scunizi, That looks like it could work, at least according to wikipedia. Now I just need to figure out how to use it. Thanks!
[05:19] <scunizi> mbrigdan: sure..
[05:20] <scunizi> mbrigdan: the only issue with it is you might end up with part of one file split between the two usb sticks..
[05:20] <dumducky> EastDallas: now how do I get APTonCD using a liveCD?
[05:21] <steven_Office> ok who nows were x is stored? and is it still called x11.. something I need to kill the Nvidia driver some how.... giving me kernal PANIC
[05:21] <zoug> dumducky: using symaptic?
[05:21] <zoug> dumducky: using synaptic?
[05:22] <dumducky> zoug: it's not in the repositories available from a live CD -- I just looked
[05:22] <zoug> dumducky: you can update the repo in live-cd
[05:22] <Unregistered> um
[05:22] <Unregistered> can some1 help me with stepmania on ds?
[05:23] <EastDallas> dumducky: synaptic>Settings>repositories>add CD ROM
[05:23] <EastDallas> dumducky ?!?!? :s
[05:23] <dumducky> zoug: is it in 'Universe' ?
[05:24] <EastDallas> !offtopic | Unregistered
[05:24] <zoug> dumducky: sys admn:universe, yeah
[05:24] <zoug> dumducky: reload synaptic
[05:24] <dumducky> EastDallas: that adds the CD into the *virtual userspace* inside the live install
[05:25] <zoug> dumducky: reload synaptic and make sure universe is activated in your sources..
[05:25] <jerry__> anybody can speak chinese?
[05:25] <dumducky> zoug: reloading packages...
[05:25] <EastDallas> dumducky: I guess I wasn't thinking...I was just thinking about adding the CD in synaptic
[05:25] <steven_Office> jerry__, fjeo; imr;oicqm ;orij',ijq]we
[05:25] <steven_Office> sorry
[05:26] <EastDallas> dumducky:  Could you do a reinstall of gnome-desktop in Synaptic and choose to just download the packages?  Just brainstorming at this point.
[05:27] <dumducky> EastDallas: that's an interesting approach... may I msg you?
[05:27] <bgjsl> hi dumducky
[05:27] <zoug> dumducky: EastDallas: why do all that to install aptoncd?
[05:27] <edizzle> Have an ssh problem I upgraded to 9.10 and now sshd does not work. I uninstalled and now cannot get installed:Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:27] <edizzle> :  /var/cache/apt/archives/openssh-client_1%3a5.1p1-6ubuntu2_i386.deb
[05:27] <edizzle>  /var/cache/apt/archives/openssh-server_1%3a5.1p1-6ubuntu2_i386.deb
[05:27] <edizzle>   E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:27] <edizzle>  i tried clearing cache and other things i googled, but no luck so far. any one have ideas or same issue? Sorry for all the txt
[05:28] <kuzmaionitch_> Could anyone help me troubleshoot a freezing problem?
[05:29] <bgjsl> tell me kuzma
[05:29] <kuzmaionitch> well
[05:29] <kuzmaionitch> i just got a new compy
[05:29] <kuzmaionitch> 64bit, amd
[05:29] <kuzmaionitch> and i have a raid setup
[05:29] <EastDallas> zoug: not to install aptonCd, just to get the gnome packages.  dumducky:  Yeah, you can message me, but I just thought about something.  It probably won't re-download all dependencies, just the packages that are part of the metapackages.
[05:29] <kuzmaionitch> and once in a while the machine just completely freezes
[05:29] <xhan> totem keeps cutting out on streams then buffers back at a snails pace. the only way to fix it is to press pause and play, then it will start playing again immediately. ALSO: totem doesnt tell me what songs playing on streaming radio anymore. does anyone know how to fix this?
[05:30] <kuzmaionitch> completely unresponsive
[05:30] <zoug> dumducky: why would you want default packages from a live-cd through aptoncd?
[05:30] <bgjsl> ok
[05:30] <kuzmaionitch> i restart and it has to check the filesystem of my /home
[05:30] <zoug> EastDallas: okay..
[05:30] <kuzmaionitch> i dont know what else to tell u
[05:30] <kuzmaionitch> i have been using flash, which isnt supposed to be to stable on 64bit
[05:30] <bgjsl> try to reinstall all again
[05:30] <kuzmaionitch> i dont know what to do
[05:31] <kuzmaionitch> really?
[05:31] <bgjsl> you can also use recovery mode if possible
[05:31] <kuzmaionitch> its strange bc it runs fine for like a day b4 something happens
[05:31] <kuzmaionitch> could it b bc of the fakeraid?
[05:31] <dumducky> zoug: CDMA connection to Inet -- just want to install Gnome in environment with *no* Inet.  Was thinking I could just wget all the .debs, copy to locally mounted media, reboot and install with dpkg -i but Gnome has *major* dependencies and recommends and packages.ubuntu.com does not have *metapackages*  (the 'virtual' section is .  empty)  [takes_breath()-1]....
[05:32] <kuzmaionitch> how do i use recovery mode?
[05:32] <kuzmaionitch> or rather, what does it do 4 me?
[05:32] <salvatore_> ciao
[05:32] <salvatore_> welcome
[05:33] <bgjsl> the point is that you have to restart yr pc if possible to get that option recovery mode
[05:33] <zoug> dumducky: ah, interesting
[05:34] <jerry__> can anybody give me an advice? if it's good me to refresh all the possible applicants?
[05:34] <bgjsl> tell me yr version
[05:34] <fidin> how come when i type 'info foo' it just shows the manpage for foo instead of the info page?
[05:34] <fidin> when i type H it says not found too
[05:35] <zoug> dumducky: are you done installing aptoncd?
[05:36] <burzki> kuzmaionitch, please tighten up your lines
[05:36] <dumducky> zoug: at 20kBps, took a while just to refresh package lists... working...
[05:36] <bgjsl> burzki ok
[05:36] <SuperRoach> Hello there. has anyone tried using google apps for their mail on ubuntu server? If so, can you recommend a guide on being able to still use php programs that email out?
[05:38] <dumducky> zoug: seems like APTonCD wasn't in the Universe repo...  =oP
[05:38] <zoug> dumducky: i double checked it
[05:38] <zoug> dumducky: it is there..
[05:39] <jchavez_> buenas noches
[05:39] <cfedde> SuperRoach: http://www.google.com/support/a/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=60730 maybe?
[05:39] <zoug> dumducky: did you activated the universe repo from your sources?
[05:39] <jchavez_> omg http://www.linuxhaxor.net/ enamorado de esta mujer
[05:40] <SuperRoach> cfedde, thanks for that, I'll read through it. Have to admit my knowledge isn't too advanced for mail servers.
[05:40] <burzki> !es | jchavez_
[05:40] <jacob_> hi
[05:41] <jacob_> a site needs me to download shockwave
[05:41] <cfedde> SuperRoach: if you know the basics. the difference between smtp and pop, what an mta is. it should be pretty easy
[05:41] <jacob_> but the only options for downloading shockwave are windows or mac
[05:41] <zoug> dumducky: cant you wget it
[05:41] <l3ns> hi everyone
[05:42] <l3ns> how do I mount a sata hard disk?
[05:42] <dumducky> EastDallas: zoug et al.  I'm going to reboot *on* a USB stick live system that I made previously.  This is too slow and the stick has 1/4 gig persistence for installing packages.  BBIAB
[05:42] <perlsyntax> anyone use usb-modeswitch on ubuntu before?I try usb_modeswitch andcoomand nouthing happons
[05:42] <perlsyntax> anyone know
[05:43] <OptimaD> im on p2 700mhz 512 ram with xubuntu and its very slow.. somethings i can change to make it faster?
[05:44] <scales11> i hate grub2
[05:45] <blakkheim> OptimaD: use a lighter distro
[05:45] <jacob_> a site needs me to download shockwave
[05:45] <jacob_> but the only options for downloading shockwave are windows or mac
[05:45] <scales11> anyone else find it annoying? i feel like it is harder for me to figure out which files to remove and or edit in order to remove older kernels that appear in it every time i update...i know how to run update-grub, but i am not always sure which files in /boot i can remove to make it slim and clean
[05:46] <lich> hello
[05:46] <perlsyntax> ?
[05:47] <seq> Hi, any LVM gurus about? I'm trying to make a raid 10 array with mdadm, but I want to change the order
[05:48] <kostkon> jacob_, there isn't a linux ver of shockwave, that's why.
[05:48] <lich> My browser is always not link server
[05:48] <amaurea> Hello! I am trying to compile a program which relies on Qt3, while I have Qt4, and it refuses to compile with that. It needs qtcore and qtgui at least. But I can't find version 3 of those in the repository. How do I install them? and would the conflict with version 4?
[05:49] <lich> I'm using konqueror
[05:49] <OptimaD> blakkheim, whats more lighter than this? (im newbie so id want something friednly not purely terminal or something)
[05:49] <lich> in the gnome
[05:50] <blakkheim> OptimaD: anything *buntu related is to be avoided if you want lightweight, unless  you do a minimal commandline install. i would look into something like archlinux.
[05:50] <blakkheim> OptimaD: or debian or anything that lets you start from a commandline and only install what you want
[05:50] <OptimaD> OptimaD, isnt archlinux complicated though? and is a command line installer?
[05:50] <lich> How do I optimize it?Please help me
[05:50] <blakkheim> OptimaD: it's not complicated at all, it is a commandline install, yes.
[05:51] <OptimaD> ok...  i will look into it..... what WM shud i intsall on archlinux?
[05:51] <blakkheim> OptimaD: if you're more familiar with dpkg/aptitude then maybe just do an ubuntu minimal installation and only install a lightweight window manager instead of a full desktop environment
[05:51] <OptimaD> will my internet, etc all work just like it does now in ubuntu
[05:52] <blakkheim> OptimaD: i like awesome/openbox, but dwm/fluxbox are also good. check out your options, there's a lot.
[05:52] <OptimaD> ive been using apt-get
[05:52] <EastDallas> lich: restate your question, I don't understand.  Why are you using Konqueror?
[05:52] <kostkon> OptimaD, you'll need to setup a lot of things yourself
[05:52] <mbrigdan> Does anyone know what changing the LV properties of an lvm physical volume does? (Specifically, what does the "striped" option do?)
[05:52] <OptimaD> prob wont work out then.... since i dont know how to setup that stuff...
[05:52] <Guest60865> question - when I hot plug a SATA CD drive to my system while it's powered on, how do I get the system to recogize it (i.e. put it in /dev/) without rebooting the system?
[05:52] <kostkon> OptimaD, then don't try arch
[05:52] <blakkheim> OptimaD: it's worth the time to learn.
[05:53] <OptimaD> blakkheim, what if i just uninstall WM in ubuntu and install fluxbox or openbox?
[05:53] <lich> EastDallas:Because firefox is too slow, in my operating system
[05:53] <EastDallas> lich:  are you saying Konqueror does not open when you click a link?
[05:53] <OptimaD> kostkon,  any recommendations other than archlinux then? something lighter that wud be a bit faster on this p2 700mhz/512
[05:54] <blakkheim> OptimaD: you could do that, but you'd need to remove a lot of stuff to make it light. i'd recommend doing a minimal iso install of ubuntu.
[05:54] <Guest60865> can no one answer my qeustions?
[05:54] <Guest60865> *question?
[05:54] <amaurea> OptimaD: netbsd? plan9?
[05:54] <kostkon> OptimaD, eh, puppy linux. or try flux or openbox in ubutnu. or as blakkheim suggested, a minimal ubuntu
[05:55] <lich> EastDallas:yes.Always
[05:55] <amaurea> this one describes a very efficient operating system: http://valerieaurora.org/synthesis/SynthesisOS/
[05:56] <robbmunson> Guest60865: as more people have come into the room might I request you ask the question again?
[05:56] <OptimaD> ok thx guys will try those
[05:56] <Guest60865> ok here goes
[05:56] <Guest60865> question - when I hot plug a SATA CD drive to my system while it's powered on, how do I get the system to recogize it (i.e. put it in /dev/) without rebooting the system?
[05:56] <amaurea> OptimaD: (my two last suggestions, plan9 and synthesis, were jokes)
[05:57] <EastDallas> lich: System>Preferences>Preferred Applications.  BTW...try Chromium is FF is too slow. https://launchpad.net/chromium-browser
[05:57] <OptimaD> why.. whats plan 9 lol
[05:57] <OptimaD> so shud i try puppy linux? is it like ubuntu but less? what WM does it use?
[05:58] <zoug> im new to irssi, how to hide the joins and quits?
[05:58] <blakkheim> OptimaD: just do a minimal iso installation of ubuntu and try a few lightweight window managers.
[05:58] <EastDallas> lich:  If Konqueror is not listed, you'll have to choose custom and enter konqueror
[05:58] <blakkheim> zoug: /ignore #channel JOINS PARTS QUITS
[05:58] <OptimaD> blakkheim, i never saw minimal installation option when in stlaling?
[05:58] <robbmunson> Guest60865: try searching for it with fdisk -l then mount it...using the propper commands.. sudo mount /dev/whatever /mount/point
[05:58] <zoug> blakkheim: thanks
[05:58] <amaurea> OptimaD: plan9 is an experimental operating system made by bell labs, with lots of neat concepts. synthesis is an even more experimental operating system, which is built aroud the concept of self-modifying code. none of them have enough programs for them to be useful
[05:59] <blakkheim> OptimaD: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[05:59] <robbmunson> youre probably gonna need sudo for fdisk as well..I forgot to put that in Guest60865..sorry.
[05:59] <OptimaD> maybe ill try it in few yrs amaurea  ;p
[05:59] <OptimaD> ok will try blakkheim thx
[06:00] <Guest60865> hmm
[06:00] <Guest60865> oklet me try
[06:00] <dumducky> zoug: type !help at in any window for a list of irssi commands -- there is a command switch to do what you want -- something like VERBOSE()
[06:00] <EastDallas> lich: did that work?
[06:00] <zoug> !help
[06:00] <robbmunson> dumducky: do you mean /help ? :)
[06:00] <l3ns> i'm installing another sata disk on this machine. I got a good tutorial here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive
[06:01] <zoug> dumducky: hmm
[06:01] <lich> EastDallas:It always prompts me: can not connect to the server...
[06:01] <EastDallas> lich: do other browsers work?
[06:01] <amaurea> I'll try my question again: How do I install qtcore3 when I already have version 4 installed?
[06:01] <l3ns> is it alright if my data in /dev/sdb be destroyed/deleted?
[06:01] <blakkheim> l3ns: why are you asking us that?
[06:02] <robbmunson> l3ns: have you backed up your system?
[06:02] <l3ns> blakkheim, because that's the warning window i got right now...
[06:02] <Guest60865> fdisk -l just brings up my hard drive
[06:02] <robbmunson> (perferably to a medium thats not on that drive)
[06:02] <robbmunson> Guest60865: and thats what I need for the mount point ;)
[06:02] <Guest60865> and when I power on the SATA drive in ubuntu, it doesn't get put in /dev/ or /mnt/ or anywhere
[06:02] <l3ns> robbmunson, no not yet, is it necessary even if i wouldjust want to installing a new hd?
[06:02] <Guest60865> I need to like rescan the SATA bus or something
[06:03] <robbmunson> Guest60865: ayyeeeeeeee...... O.o
[06:03] <Guest60865> soemthing that ubuntu does while booting up
[06:03] <plustax> You guys know of a really good desktop recording program with high quality? I have gtk RECORDMYDESKTOP but it glitches at the top of the screen sometimes in the videos
[06:03] <lich> EastDallas:yes ,other can do
[06:03] <plustax> and it's annoying. Anyone suggest something better?
[06:03] <zoug>    /help doesnt do anything :(
[06:04] <robbmunson> l3ns: well, if the drives blank to begin with then go for whatever you intend, youre obviously not gonna do damage to contents ;)
[06:04] <plustax> ?
[06:04] <blakkheim> zoug: what do you need?
[06:05] <l3ns> robbmunson, hm okay, i thought it would damage to my other files on the other hd....
[06:05] <zoug> blakkheim: i wanted basic irc commands on irssi through /help
[06:05] <burzki> zoug, no spaces in front.  /help
[06:05] <EastDallas> lich: Honestly, if Konqueror was way better or something I would say fix it, but why not just try Opera or Chromium if Firefox is too slow instead of using a KDE app?
[06:05] <lich> EastDallas:konqueror always timeout
[06:05] <amaurea> zoug: the help appears in the status window
[06:05] <robbmunson> l3ns: well, it cant touch 2 drives contents at once as far as I know.
[06:05] <kostkon> !screencast | plustax
[06:05] <zoug> burzki: yeah i know. i wrote that so that i can /msg
[06:05] <blakkheim> zoug: google irc commands i guess
[06:06] <l3ns> robbmunson, nice thanks :)
[06:06] <zoug> blakkheim: how to work with the aliases given in /etc/irssi.conf
[06:06] <robbmunson> l3ns: you should be safe....key words should be.
[06:06] <drack> привет всем
[06:06] <maco> !ru | drack
[06:07] <blakkheim> zoug: what about them? they are just "shortcuts" to the real commands
[06:08] <lich> EastDallas:I use oprea they are unable to input Chinese
[06:09] <plustax> how do I list my processes? istanbul freezes every time I hit record
[06:09] <blakkheim> plustax: ps aux
[06:09] <plustax> I need to kill it's PID
[06:09] <mMezquitale> plustax, you can also use "top" to see what process is taking up most of your cpu
[06:09] <kostkon> plustax, pkill instanbul
[06:10] <zoug> blakkheim: okay, thanks!
[06:10] <mMezquitale> plustax, ps aux|grep instanbul; killall instanbul
[06:10] <rodri> hello, somebody speak spanish? :)
[06:10] <zoug> plustax: sudo pkill istanbul?
[06:10] <kostkon> !es | rodri
[06:10] <mMezquitale> !es
[06:10] <blakkheim> rodri: #ubuntu-es does
[06:10] <EastDallas> lich: why not try Chromium?  It supports chinese input and is very fast.  https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa
[06:11] <rodri> ok, thanks! :D
[06:11] <lich> EastDallas:I use Chromium, the Chinese characters is difficult to adjust
[06:11] <plustax> it says no process found
[06:11] <plustax> but it left the gray square in my upper right tray
[06:11] <plustax> and it wont go away.
[06:13] <plustax> nvm fixed it
[06:13] <EastDallas> lich:  Since konqueror is KDE app and other browsers work, you'll probably need to take this over to #kubuntu.
[06:13] <plustax> why is istanbul doing that?
[06:13] <plustax> any ideas?
[06:13] <EastDallas> !kubuntu | lich
[06:14] <EastDallas> lich: you may also want to try seamonkey?
[06:14] <jacob_> hi
[06:14] <jacob_> i'm using the Dust theme
[06:14] <jacob_> and for whatever reason
[06:14] <lich> EastDallas:no
[06:14] <jacob_> Applications, Places, and System are bolt
[06:14] <jacob_> i don't want that
[06:14] <jacob_> bolt = bold
[06:15] <lich> EastDallas:I do not know what that is
[06:15] <EastDallas> lich: seamonkey is another web browser
[06:15] <amaurea> How do I list every package that could provide a given file? I need moc for qt4, but I only have moc from qt3
[06:16] <kostkon> jacob_, you could try gnome-color-chooser
[06:16] <kostkon> jacob_, http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/gnome-color-chooser
[06:17] <lich> EastDallas：ok，I will try seamonkey, Thanks for your advice
[06:17] <kostkon> jacob_, another option would be to edit the theme or use gconf or something like that
[06:18] <amaurea> Ok, I solved it by removing the qt3-dev-tools
[06:18] <zoug> amaurea: try automoc
[06:19] <amaurea> zoug: what is that?
[06:19] <zoug> amaurea: This package contains the automoc4 binary which is used to run moc on the right
[06:19] <zoug> binaries in a Qt 4 or KDE 4 application.
[06:19] <burzki> jacob_, right click desktop, select change desktop background, fonts tab, applications font
[06:20] <amaurea> zoug: that sounds promising. thanks :)
[06:20] <steven_Office> Ok I need to reinstall X from the 9.10 cd when running ( sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg ) how do I add my cdrom to the source.list?
[06:21] <papul> when i compiled my c file i got output file as a.out. however it can be executed only thru terminal but not thru double click. how can i do that? chmod??
[06:21] <robbmunson> steven_Office: I believe its as easy as sudo apt-cdrom add -
[06:21] <steven_Office> k
[06:22] <robbmunson> steven_Office: as long as you have it in the drive when you do the command and update your sources it should always work :)
[06:22] <kostkon> papul, e.g. chmod 755 a.out
[06:22] <jacob_> burzki, i chaged all th efonts to not bold
[06:22] <jacob_> but..... still bold
[06:22] <papul> kostkon, 755 for making it executable??
[06:22] <kostkon> papul, yeap
[06:22] <papul> where can i find the list of all the numbers?
[06:22] <burzki> jacob_, try scaling them down, say from 12 to 10, or whatever
[06:23] <papul> kostkon, ok thanks :)
[06:23] <kostkon> papul, np
[06:23] <jacob_> they are all 10 already
[06:23] <burzki> jacob_, or select a different font
[06:23] <burzki> try 9
[06:23] <jacob_> which font would affect it
[06:23] <jacob_> window title font?
[06:24] <burzki> i have mine on loam book 10 in dust, pretty nice
[06:24] <lich> EastDallas：I have not used kde
[06:24] <burzki> applications
[06:24] <jacob_> well
[06:24] <jacob_> I changed it
[06:24] <burzki> *loma
[06:24] <jacob_> the font IS smaller
[06:24] <jacob_> but still bold
[06:25] <burzki> jacob_, some fonts only have bold, or look bold in the panel.  try one with a finer line detail til you find one you like
[06:25] <EastDallas> lich: Konqueror is a KDE application.  It uses KDE libraries.  And all the browsers that run natively in gnome are working, so the people at #kubuntu would probably be of more help.
[06:28] <lich> EastDallas:I see, thanks
[06:29] <steven_Office> robbmunson, I have some how managed to kill X and you ideas failed lol just as mine I have
[06:29] <steven_Office> But im open
[06:30]  * robbmunson slumps in seat
[06:30] <steven_Office> lol
[06:32] <steven_Office> robbmunson, I am trying to find the Xorg file from the live cd now and just copy it... but I about to lose 3 days of work and start a fresh install
[06:32] <dumducky> !shuttleworth
[06:32] <dumducky> Farewell, Mark =o(
[06:33] <dumducky> _at_ /TOPIC anyone?
[06:33] <Nithrilist1> non mais c'est qu'en belgique voyez vous il faudrait serieusement penser a créer un nouveau parti politique genre parti fumiste de haschich voyez vous
[06:34] <robbmunson> dumducky: im not sure what youre asking?
[06:34] <burzki> !fr
[06:35] <burzki> steven_Office, did you get the cd enabled in sources?
[06:36] <dumducky> robbmunson: I was told that Mark Shuttleworth just stepped down as CEO of Cannonical, and I thought maybe the official help channel might add a farewell message to its topic
[06:36] <robbmunson> dumducky: thats offtopic for here ;)
[06:37] <steven_Office> burzki, no im booted up in safe mode at this time and tring to read up on how to mount the cdrom then try the update again
[06:37] <microlith> that and he's not leaving
[06:38] <burzki> steven_Office, sorry, i missed you original trouble ..
[06:39] <de_amore_imah> how to use chmod in ubuntu 9.10 to change my folder in removable disk?????
[06:39] <r31> .
[06:42] <steven_Office> burzki, I installed the NVidia drivers from system/hardware and ahter rebooting all I was getting is crashes, so I went to etc/x11/xorg and it was trashed so I tried running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg from safe mode and no luck
[06:44] <shazbotmcnasty> how do I get into tilda config?
[06:44] <shazbotmcnasty> i muffed it up
[06:44] <shazbotmcnasty> and I want to change it
[06:44] <steven_Office> burzki, the last dumb thing I did was sudo apt-get remove --purge xserver-xorg and then thought I would reinstall X and try again
[06:44] <burzki> steven_Office, another had that problem this morning, wish i could remember who .. i wasn't paying much attention.
[06:45] <r3mr3mr3m> .
[06:45] <burzki> steven_Office, i dont know how to go back through the irc logs, but its there ..
[06:46] <AndChat|> If you have logging turned on
[06:47] <steven_Office> its been so long I have forgoten how to use command line LOL Tell me this whats the command to mount the cdrom (  mount -f cdrom) ?
[06:47] <stickboy> why won't gparted let me format a usb stick as ntfs?
[06:47] <student_modnar> hi, I just bought a brand new hard drive to go into a dual boot system, thing is, it's blank without any partitions, do I need to be sure to make the windows partition first before all linux partitions or can I create them in any order, I currently have 0 partitions on the drive
[06:48] <panlin> there is no need
[06:48] <zoug> i once formatted my usb-stick with ext3, and gave them to my friends using windows ;)
[06:48] <workman> Sticky cause ntfs v ia mkfs isn't supported?
[06:48] <student_modnar> thanks panlin :)
[06:49] <robbmunson> zoug: thats just cruel.
[06:49] <robbmunson> >;)
[06:49] <panlin> you are welcome, student_modnar :)
[06:49] <zoug> robbmunson: im the bad guy :)
[06:50] <workman> Ah, irc and moto droid; so cool
[06:50]  * EastDallas jealous of workman
[06:51] <workman> :
[06:51] <workman> :)
[06:51] <workman> Typing is a bit hard, but still cool
[06:52] <workman> Slower for sure
[06:52] <shane1> typing is hard?
[06:52] <burzki> student_modnar, the windows installer will overwrite grub.  so you can partition first and install windows to its own partition, or install windows first, then install ubuntu using manual partitioning during the install
[06:53] <workman> Yea, the slide out and my fingers don't like each other
[06:53] <karma_police> i ran into probs with grub after windows install also
[06:53] <student_modnar> burzki: I've done the manual installations before, I was mainly curious as I've never received a blank drive, without any partitions, so I was wondering about having gparted write the disk label versus having windows do it
[06:53] <Davy> can anyone in here help me with ubuntu not recognizing my wireless connection?
[06:54] <burzki> student_modnar, if you are setting up for dual boot, i would get the windows on first
[06:54] <workman> !wireless
[06:54] <dumducky> student_modnar: 'there is no need' *IF* you want to mess with GRUB and 'manual' chainloading after the Windows installer nukes it out (hd0,0)
[06:54] <karma_police> i had installed ubuntu first and when i installed windoze my grub was deleted...  tried to rebuild grub2 but could never get my grub.cfg configured right
[06:54] <Davy> thanks
[06:54] <kc2> hy
[06:54] <karma_police> davy what kind of wireless adapter do yo have?>
[06:55] <mMezquitale> Davy, do you have a netbook?
[06:55] <workman> Ok, night all
[06:55] <dumducky> student_modnar: Ubuntu has a pretty good howto on dual boot -- the address should be in the bots here if anyone knows  the keyword(s)
[06:55] <Davy> umm...hold on let me check
[06:55] <burzki> Davy, is this a new install or did it just quit?
[06:55] <karma_police> !grub
[06:55] <karma_police> !grub2
[06:55] <robbmunson> !dual boot | student_modnar
[06:56] <panlin> student_modnar, i'm sorry, maybe i am wrong
[06:56] <Davy> burzki...i just installed linux
[06:56] <yh> hy
[06:56] <student_modnar> robbmunson: Thanks for the help
[06:56] <student_modnar> dumducky: thanks for the help as well :)
[06:56] <karma_police> davy> do you have a wireless usb adapter? if so you may have to run a blacklist command like i had to
[06:56] <robbmunson> student_modnar: sure...and sorry panlin...wasnt paying attention too well.
[06:56] <burzki> Davy, new to ubuntu?  installed 9.10?
[06:56] <Davy> burzki: yes
[06:56] <student_modnar> well I'll clarify, this hard drive is going into an existing system for about 3 months, before I build the dual boot system
[06:57] <burzki> thx robbmunson
[06:57] <student_modnar> so I figure I can get away with creating a linux partition first for data, which is only data
[06:57] <karma_police> davy.. this worked for me.   echo "blacklist rt2800usb" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[06:57] <steven_Office> anyone here using vmware?
[06:57] <burzki> did you try enabling the drivers?
[06:57] <student_modnar> and then later, I'll of course install windows first, and then linux
[06:57] <zoug> Davy: can you see your wlan adapter in ifconfig?
[06:57] <hyperstream> Hmm i just brought a new compaq laptop, (cheapo $600 AU), it has a recovery partition for windows 7 (cdkey on the bottom of the laptop) is there a way i can clone this partition and burn it to disc ? so i can install ubuntu, im not sure if i install ubuntu if it'll let me run that recovery partition from grub or where ever if my windows should get messed up
[06:58] <robbmunson> steven_Office: just ask your question..theres no need for "anyone" starts in here ;)
[06:58] <karma_police> brb
[06:58] <xim_> why does vlc player have a little penguin wearing a santa hat?
[06:58] <Davy> i don't know if i can see my adapter in ifconfig
[06:58] <dooglus_> !info pidgin karmic
[06:58] <dooglus_> !info pidgin jaunty
[06:58] <dumducky> student_modnar: technically panlin is correct, and with grubedit and modern howtos it became way easier to install M$FT O/Ses after Linux but now GRUB2 has thrown a wrinkle into things.  It's just easier...
[06:58] <Davy> i'm like...a noobie for linux
[06:59] <Davy> i don't know where to look
[06:59] <student_modnar> one other question, ntfs or fat32 for sharing data between operating systems? (Windows 7\XP, linux, solaris)
[06:59] <burzki> Davy, goto System/admin/hardware drivers
[06:59] <devnull_> hello ... im having an issue with every time i put a DVD movie in my DVD drive it is not recognized. the system thinks there is no media.  I can burn DVD's fine and read cds
[07:00] <devnull_> ubuntu 8.10 btw
[07:00] <Davy> burzki: i'm there
[07:00] <burzki> anything?
[07:00] <panlin> you can try samba
[07:00] <Davy> and all i see is Broadcam B43 wireless driver
[07:00] <steven_Office> ? I had VM running in vmware but did not Image it after complition... will I loss all my work on a reinstall? it is stored on its own partition....
[07:00] <zoug> Davy: open up a terminal and type lspci and look for network controllers.should be at the end
[07:00] <burzki> Davy, yup.thats it. click to activate
[07:00] <Davy> its activated
[07:01] <zoug> Davy: great..
[07:01] <burzki> Davy, clear back out to the desktop and see if the panel applet at top is showing networks available
[07:02] <zoug> Davy: you still dont get wireless?
[07:02] <devnull_> actually i am also having the same issue with a fresh 9.10 install on my friends computer
[07:02] <knightrage> hey guys, so my wired network connection doesn't automatically register or something. i have to manually issue ifconfig and route commands to configure my device. how do i fix that issue? i want to statically configure the ip settings
[07:02] <amaurea> When are the packages in the ubuntu repositories updated? For example: The newest version in the repository is 4.5, while 4.6 has been released.
[07:03] <zoug> knightrage: nice gui at wicd.
[07:03] <Davy> zoug and burzki, it's still not recognizing our wireless interent
[07:03] <l3ns> hi.
[07:03] <burzki> Davy, do you know the terminal?
[07:03] <Davy> no
[07:03] <Davy> i don't think anyway
[07:04] <burzki> Davy, Applications/accessories/terminal
[07:04] <l3ns> how do I make an application run automatically after the booting process?
[07:04] <Davy> oaky
[07:04] <l3ns> say I wanted to make xchat run automatically after reboot...
[07:04] <panlin> system preferences startup application
[07:04] <devnull_> system / pref / sessions
[07:04] <punkyp00h> l3ns: you can add it to your session manager in gnome
[07:04] <Davy> burzki: what do i run in the terminal
[07:04] <burzki> Davy, type.  lspci -v  --go through the output toward the bottom and find "network controller"
[07:05] <Davy> lspci -v?
[07:05] <burzki> lspci -v
[07:05] <burzki> yup
[07:05] <panlin> ubuntu 9.10 haven't sessions :）
[07:05] <Davy> k...found it
[07:05] <l3ns> punkyp00h, okay thanks, i will google it :)
[07:06] <panlin> l3ns, system preferences startup application
[07:06] <burzki> Davy, you will find "broadcom corp, bc4318" something.  the bc43xx is what you want
[07:06] <panlin> just add it, and that's all
[07:07] <Davy> burzki: i have BCM4318
[07:07] <punkyp00h> if anyone is familiar with karmic boot process on powerpc, please msg me my dist-upgrade is hosed
[07:07] <zoug> Davy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=768760
[07:07] <burzki> Davy, perfect
[07:07] <devnull_> ah ... im still on 8.10 ... which raises another question ... how has the ATI support come after the horror of 9.04 ?
[07:07] <burzki> Davy, one sec .. checking
[07:08] <steven_Office> YES GOT IT! Did a reinstall Xorg from the live cd! wow that was simple... I will post a simple how to tomorrow time for bed gn all!
[07:08] <steven_Office> thats everyoner
[07:08] <l3ns> panlin, I don;t have startup application after preferences.. running a hardy heron
[07:08] <zoug> Davy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1344248
[07:09] <panlin> l3ns, :(
[07:09] <zoug> Davy: same as yours
[07:09] <Davy> okay
[07:09] <panlin> then that's sessions
[07:09] <Davy> thanks zoug.
[07:09] <l3ns> panlin, tho I can see the sessions there, will have to learn how to add programs to it..
[07:09] <kostkon> l3ns, the equivalent in hardy is Sessions
[07:10] <panlin> its very easy :)
[07:10] <punkyp00h> anyone? i'm getting the "Gave up waiting for root device" error
[07:10] <burzki> Davy, also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[07:10] <kkiok> hi  linux lovers how doi get a vm ware
[07:10] <l3ns> kostkon, yep, I can see an Add program button. hm
[07:10] <burzki> Davy, do you have wired or other internet to this machine now?
[07:11] <kkiok> hi  linux lovers how doi get a vm ware
[07:11] <Davy> yes burzki, I'm running an ethernet cable to it
[07:11] <panlin> just down it and try at http://www.vmware.com/
[07:11] <l3ns> kostkon, i'm at the Add Startup Program dialog box, it's asking me the name, command, and comment. what should I fill on the command box?
[07:11] <burzki> Davy, good.  so before you get too far into that forum post
[07:11] <kostkon> l3ns, what do you want to add?
[07:11] <steven_Office> kkiok, KVM works or else buy Vmware
[07:11] <l3ns> ..if i wanted to add xchat program
[07:11] <punkyp00h> l3ns: the command of the application you want :)
[07:12] <panlin> yes, very easy
[07:12] <kkiok> k thanks
[07:12] <l3ns> punkyp00h, yes but I don't know what's the command to run the xchat on the terminal...>.<
[07:12] <burzki> Davy, in terminal:  sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[07:12] <punkyp00h> l3ns: you can get full path by typing which <application> in the terminal
[07:12] <zoug> burzki: lol, its a huge one..
[07:12] <panlin> xchat
[07:12] <punkyp00h> for example which xchat
[07:12] <kostkon> l3ns, just put "xchat" in command
[07:12] <kostkon> the command field*
[07:12] <punkyp00h> should show you /usr/bin/xchat or something
[07:12] <steven_Office> kkiok, What are you looking at running in your VM
[07:13] <l3ns> hm is that the same as the one i had to type when I do Alt+f2?
[07:13] <burzki> zoug, exactly.  the community help page i linked is much more concise
[07:13] <kostkon> l3ns, yeap
[07:13] <l3ns> ah cool. the name is up to me, yes?
[07:13] <punkyp00h> yep
[07:13] <l3ns> okay thanks punkyp00h and kostkon  :)
[07:14] <kostkon> l3ns, no, but usually you can easily figure it out
[07:14] <punkyp00h> np
[07:14] <kostkon> l3ns, Xchat thus "xchat", Pidgin → pidgin, etc
[07:14] <Davy> burzki: done. and it says its the newest version
[07:14] <panlin> but moc is mocp :)
[07:14] <kkiok> what is kvm
[07:15] <steven_Office> kkiok, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM
[07:15] <kostkon> l3ns, ah you meant the "name" field. Yeah, you can put anything you like
[07:15] <steven_Office> kkiok, some thing like VMware expt FREE
[07:15] <l3ns> kostkon, okay added now. will reboot to check if it works. brb :)
[07:15] <punkyp00h> how do i get past a FATAL: Error inserting i8042 ?
[07:15] <kostkon> l3ns, no need to reboot. just logout and login again
[07:15] <punkyp00h> on boot
[07:16] <burzki> Davy, try going back to activate the hardware driver again.  system/admin/hardrivrs
[07:16] <kkiok> nice were do i get it ?
[07:16] <Davy> burzki: should i remove it and then activate it again?
[07:16] <hiatus> Virtualbox > kvm
[07:17] <burzki> Davy, sure.  you may need to reboot to get it going.
[07:17] <punkyp00h> yea i prefer virtualbox also
[07:17] <steven_Office> kkiok, here this should get you going I dont think much has changed from 8.10 as for getting it going.... http://www.howtoforge.com/virtualization-with-kvm-on-ubuntu-8.10
[07:18] <burzki> Davy, it may just come up, check in the top applet, maybe unplug your cable to encourage it
[07:18] <amaurea> Is it possible to install packages for other versions of ubuntu? The version of a package I need is not available in the repository for my version, but it is available in the repository for Lucid
[07:18] <Davy> burzki: got it
[07:18] <burzki> sweet
[07:18] <Davy> i can see all the available networks now
[07:19] <Davy> thanks
[07:19] <burzki> Davy, there are some good tutorials in the ubuntu wiki and community documentation on using terminal and command line
[07:20] <burzki> Davy, happy sailing
[07:20] <l3ns> hmm it did not... tho I can see the xchat being enabled on the Sessions Preferences..
[07:20] <l3ns> perhaps I need to save it on somewhere?
[07:21] <kostkon> amaurea, try it. you may get deps errors, on the other hand, you may not. if it's just one package it's ok. but don;t try to install many packages from lucid. you may mess up your system a little.
[07:21] <quietone> can anyone help me change the sound pref program in ubuntu 9.10 to the one used in 9.04?
[07:21] <nomad77> l3ns: try "xchat-gnome"
[07:21] <amaurea> kostkon: but how, exactly do I do it?
[07:21] <l3ns> nomad77, olright :)
[07:21] <amaurea> kostkon: do I need to add that repository as one of my repositories?
[07:22] <steven_Office> kkiok, did that get you what you needed?
[07:22] <amaurea> kostkon: or do I download a single .deb file and install it, or what?
[07:22] <kostkon> amaurea, better download the deb. is it a ppa?
[07:22] <kostkon> amaurea, don't add the repo
[07:23] <amaurea> kostkon: what is a ppa? I just found the package listed on packages.ubuntu.com
[07:23] <airtonix> personal package archive
[07:23] <kostkon> amaurea, ok. get it from there.
[07:23] <kostkon> !ppa | amaurea
[07:23] <panlin> PPA is powerful
[07:23] <amaurea> perhaps it is easiest to compile the newest version myself, and make a package of it myself
[07:24] <gaelfx1> I'm having a problem where my screensaver starts up while I'm watching videos in VLC, and though the screensaver does go away if I wait a few seconds, it's still running in the background so that when the video finishes, the monitor never goes to sleep unless I move the mouse around. This wouldn't be such a big deal except that I use the Web interface to control VLC from another laptop
[07:24] <kostkon> amaurea, you could do that yes
[07:24]  * amaurea reads about ppas
[07:25] <stickboy> if i try to archive a folder but abort it, does it damage the original?
[07:25] <gaelfx1> any ideas about how to stop this from happening?
[07:25] <VanRoy> Hi all.  I have a problem on Gnome desktop.  when I create a new user, it is not possible to add new application icons on the desktop of this new user. How can I fix this problem  ?
[07:26] <airtonix> gaelfx1, the 'stop screensaver' option in vlc doesn't have any effect ?
[07:26] <gaelfx1> airtonix: hang on, I'll check that and report back in 5 minutes
[07:26] <stickboy> if i try to archive using archive manager a folder to 7zip parts but abort it, does it damage the original?
[07:27] <[1]Rob> I've got quite the headache to take care of.  I'm attempting to install drivers for my wireless card.  ive made it most of the way through the installation using ndiswrapper and im not entirely sure where to go from here.  newbe here, im quick but try to be gentle lol
[07:28] <airtonix> stickboy, archiving a collection of files or a folder does not modify the originals
[07:28] <burzki> [1]Rob, do you know your chipset?
[07:28] <[1]Rob> amd64
[07:28] <coskungurel> hello, can anyone help me here urgently?
[07:28] <[1]Rob> other than that... might take me a sec
[07:28] <shane1> what's up coskungurel?
[07:28] <burzki> [1]Rob, take a sec
[07:28] <exodus_ms> lol
[07:28] <coskungurel> I am getting an error and cannot get my ubuntu up
[07:28] <[1]Rob> lol
[07:28] <zoug> burzki: wireless is heating up here :)
[07:28] <stickboy> ok thank you airtonix
[07:28] <panlin> what error?
[07:28] <[1]Rob> ok, its nvidia, shall i get more specific?
[07:29] <burzki> zoug, no doubt.  but isn't it always!  ;-)
[07:29] <coskungurel> "Could not update ICEauthorization"
[07:29] <burzki> [1]Rob, yup
[07:29] <gaelfx1> airtonix: turns out that was already enabled, so I guess that option isn't working, no
[07:30] <zoug> burzki: true, much more after 9.10
[07:30] <exodus_ms> [1]Rob} what is the chipset of the wifi card you are using
[07:30] <airtonix> gaelfx1, ok it doesn't affect my screensaver either (i assume you are using ubuntu 9.10) ?
[07:30] <patriick> sup guise
[07:30] <burzki> [1]Rob, try lspci -v  go down to find the network controller
[07:30] <[1]Rob> its a linksys wmp54gs
[07:30] <gaelfx1> airtonix: yeah, I am
[07:30] <burzki> exodus_ms, working on it
[07:30] <rgov> i have a metacity theme that is installing through the Appearance preference window but aren't showing up there after installation; is there a way to debug
[07:31] <[1]Rob> apologies, for some reason i thought you meant the motherboard>.<
[07:31] <exodus_ms> burzki} cool, apologies
[07:31] <airtonix> gaelfx1, inresolved : http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/5873/
[07:31] <airtonix> gaelfx1, unresolved*
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> rgov:  you sure its an actual 'theme' or is it just a specific PART of a theme. Check the 'Customize' button and look at all the different parts you can use. It may be in there
[07:31] <burzki> exodus_ms, no apologies, stay tuned
[07:32]  * exodus_ms is staying tuned
[07:32] <coskungurel> ah the exact error is "could not update ICEauthority file /home/cosh/ .ICE authority
[07:32] <airtonix> gaelfx1, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vlc/+bug/446900
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> rgov:  i find most things that claim to be themes are just one part  (Controls, window border, icon set, and so on)
[07:32] <zoug> [1]Rob: that is you r router i guess, we need to know your wireless adapter listed in lspci
[07:33] <burzki> zoug, true about 9.10, but the bc43 has been issue from .. well, forever.  and still in lucid.  damn money changers
[07:33] <l3ns> hmm did not work still..
[07:33] <gaelfx1> got it, thanks
[07:33] <panlin> that's strange, xchat should work
[07:33] <rgov> Dr_Willis:  well, that way i can get it to look remotely correct on the 'custom' preview icon, but it does not render the titlebar remotely correct
[07:34] <burzki> [1]Rob, ? still with us?
[07:34] <l3ns> panlin, what is the path for xchat, i will try put it in the command box instead...
[07:34] <zoug> burzki: think he is looking in lspci
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> rgov:  not suire what you mean.  You could  customize the them then do the 'save as...' and i think it will make a proper preview for the 'theme' tab.
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> rgov:  im confused by your use of the term 'remotely'
[07:35] <[1]Rob> yes sorry, Network controller:broadcom Corporation BCM4318... i believe thats what im looking for
[07:35] <panlin> /usr/bin/xchat
[07:35] <zoug> burzki: lol, another 4318
[07:35] <burzki> [1]Rob, zoug great. just did that one
[07:35] <panlin> l3ns, it's /usr/bin/xchat
[07:36] <burzki> lol indeed
[07:36] <[1]Rob> lol theouch lol thats not good :D
[07:36] <[1]Rob> ouch*
[07:36] <burzki> no, its fine.  we gotcha
[07:37] <zoug> [1]Rob: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[07:37] <rgov> can someone recommend a good dark, techno theme? the more garish the better
[07:37] <zoug> :)
[07:37] <rgov> setting up a VM for aspiring hackers
[07:37] <l3ns> panlin, okay thanks.. but yeh "xchat" should work. I can see in the xchat properties launcher, the command written is "xchat"
[07:37] <gaelfx1> garish and dark? isn't that a bit of a paradox?
[07:37] <panlin> l3ns, that's great :)
[07:37] <rgov> gaelfx1:  possibly
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> rgov:  check out the gnome-art and gnome-artng programs they let you easially get themes from the various gnome theme archive sites
[07:37] <[1]Rob> got that, excuse me a sec and thanks
[07:37] <jaceleon> Hi! May I ask who uses a usb wireless connection here? It is something like huawei, and my crunchbang linux 9.04 isn't working with it. I'm currently using a wired connection.
[07:38] <skitzo> hows it guys just a quick question how do u stop the screen going blank while your watching videos in vlc
[07:38] <l3ns> panlin, i mean no not yet it did not work, it should have worked >.<
[07:38] <burzki> [1]Rob, have you tried enabling the hardware drivers?
[07:38] <gaelfx1> rgov: like the good doctor said, gnome-art has a pretty wide range of stuff, definitely worth checking out
[07:38] <panlin> .......
[07:38] <l3ns> i will try the path instead, brb...
[07:38] <rgov> will do, thanks
[07:38] <airtonix> skitzo, turn of the screensaver
[07:38] <panlin> are you sure you put it correctly in sessions?
[07:38] <airtonix> skitzo, turn off*
[07:38] <jaceleon> adjust your screensaver on power management
[07:39] <jaceleon> it is normally on preferences
[07:39] <skitzo> airtonix, cheers
[07:39] <gaelfx1> rgov: try gnome-look.org as well
[07:40] <burzki> [1]Rob, your chip IS supported, so you can skip down the help page to - Installing Drivers for the bcm43xx Cards
[07:40] <burzki> [1]Rob, forget the ndiswrapper
[07:40] <[1]Rob> ok.
[07:41] <airtonix> rgov, http://browse.deviantart.com/customization/skins/linuxutil/gnome/
[07:42] <StepNjump> Hi, I have a problem. Looks like some updates won't download somehow... I get the following error message in 9.10: W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-image-2.6.31-16-generic_2.6.31-16.52_i386.deb
[07:42] <StepNjump>   404  Not Found
[07:42] <StepNjump> Any help?
[07:42] <zoug> StepNjump: may be your internet just died
[07:42] <amee2k__> hm... i think i once had that too. iirc aptitude update fixed it
[07:42] <gaelfx1> StepNjump: you should try changing your software sources
[07:42] <StepNjump> No, cuz I'm on the internet now
[07:43] <jaceleon> I guess you're using a dlink router....
[07:43] <StepNjump> How do I do that gaelfxl?
[07:43] <zoug> StepNjump: hi the reload button in synaptic
[07:43] <StepNjump> please
[07:43] <amee2k__> or maybe you're using an old repo
[07:43] <gaelfx1> StepNjump: I get those same errors all the time on newer updates from rootguide because apparently, they are fast with the lists but not so fast with syncing
[07:43] <l3ns> panlin, it worked :) i used "xchat" and clicked the Remember Currently Running Applications under the Session Options tab :)
[07:43] <amee2k__> in either case, has something to do with you having an old database that lists packages that aren't there anymore
[07:43] <zoug> StepNjump: *Hit
[07:43] <panlin> that's great ::))
[07:43] <gaelfx1> StepNjump: under System->Administration->Software Sources
[07:43] <shane1> i'm testing a streaming radio of a red5 server... does anyone want to listen to some beatles to help me with it?  http://snowberry.tomatoe.webqualityhost.net:5080/flowplayer2/moss/cortesradio.html
[07:44] <l3ns> panlin, thanks for the help :)
[07:44] <amee2k__> Q: where do i need to get in line to verbally abuse the designer of UNR?
[07:44] <gaelfx1> amee2k__: behind me probably
[07:44] <panlin> l3ns, i'am just a very beginner of ubuntu :)
[07:44] <jaceleon> and why would you do that?
[07:44] <gaelfx1> I can't even get it to start up in live mode on my MSI Wind U120
[07:45] <burzki> [1]Rob, you'll also want to remover ndiswrapper in synaptic.
[07:45] <amee2k__> yesterday i decided to reinstall my laptop since the 9.10 upgrade broke so much stuff that it made the system virtually unusable
[07:45] <shane1> hmmm... i saw some people connect.. no luck listening?
[07:45] <jaceleon> then it wont work there, not without workarounds
[07:45] <amee2k__> but since my aging D610 is geting more like a netbook performance-wise i decided to try UNR on it
[07:45] <panlin> l3ns, but when i want to add a application, there is no need to  click the Remember Currently Running Applications under the Session Options tab
[07:45] <airtonix> !who
[07:45] <airtonix> !u
[07:45] <nomad77> jaceleon: crunchbang's irc channel is #crunchbang on oftc network fwiw.
[07:46] <StepNjump> oh ok gaelfxl thanks
[07:46] <l3ns> panlin, what version of ubuntu you are currently using?
[07:46] <gaelfx1> StepNjump: no problem, if that doesn't work, then report back here ;)
[07:46] <jaceleon> nomad77: so I would type "/connect irc.crunchbang.com"
[07:46] <jaceleon> ?
[07:46] <panlin> l3ns, I just use ubuntu 9.10, and her is perfect
[07:46] <StepNjump> ;)
[07:47] <amee2k__> but now my list of not-likes is getting longer and longer. i manged to kill the ret---- "media center" style menu, but i still don't have wlan, and graphics are crippled sometimes
[07:47] <amee2k__> e.g. when i hover a tray icon, the tooltip is just a box of white noise
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> jaceleon:  or check the crunchbang web site to see what server they reccomend.   or check your irc clients server listing and see if theres a list of 'oftc' servers
[07:47] <nomad77> jaceleon: try  /connect irc.oftc.net then /join #crunchbang
[07:47] <jaceleon> amee2k__, have you tried ndiswrapper?
[07:48] <amee2k__> jaceleon: it used to work on previous ubuntus and even debian with the stock b34 drivers
[07:48] <l3ns> panlin, ah. must be some 8.04 issues. ~_~
[07:48] <panlin> l3ns, but I use slackware before
[07:49] <burzki> [1]Rob, ?  any luck
[07:49] <panlin> l3ns, ubuntu 8.04 is a LTS version, should't have this problem
[07:49] <amee2k__> suspend to ram is working now thanks to the reinstall. adjusting display brighness (which used to work on ubuntu too) doesn't however.
[07:49] <amee2k__> well, </rant> and my final question, can i expect any of the above to get better by reinstalling regular ubuntu?
[07:50] <StepNjump> gaelfxl: it seems to be working fine now! Thank you. I pointed to a server in Canada instead...!
[07:50] <airtonix> amee2k__, have you posted this on ubuntu forums yet ?
[07:51] <amee2k__> nope. would it help?
[07:51] <StepNjump> gaelfxl: thank you!
[07:51] <l3ns> panlin, i will try with pidgin now, w/out the remember thing... brb.
[07:51] <airtonix> amee2k__, to the degree which you used <enter> i think it would be better so you just paste url here
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> it cant hurt to file a bug report.
[07:52] <panlin> l3ns, :)
[07:52] <amee2k__> airtonix: sorry, irc only supports 512 characters minus overhead per message :P
[07:52] <airtonix> amee2k__, yes this is my point
[07:53] <amee2k__> Dr_Willis: hm... no offense, but does someone actually read them?
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> amee2k__:  bug reports? yes. theres a group of people/procedures for how they get handled.
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> amee2k__:  of course it pays to search the reports first to be sure you are not re-re-rereporting somtjhing thats allready been reported
[07:54] <l3ns> panlin, pidgin worked!..
[07:54] <amee2k__> because i don't have the expertise to provide a patch along with the rant, and i've never ever gotten a reply to a bug report of the form "X doesn't work for me. please fix it. thank you"
[07:55] <panlin> nice :-)
[07:55] <amee2k__> much less seen the bugs fixed
[07:55] <burzki> amee2k__, you have a b43 wifi?
[07:56] <amee2k__> yeah, "Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Rev. 03"
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> amee2k__:  if youa re going to just rant.. dont bother.
[07:56] <panlin> l3ns, have you got a bluetooth on your computer?
[07:56] <amee2k__> Dr_Willis: what other than stating that something doesn't work is there to a bug report, if i can't provide a fix myself?
[07:56] <Gryph> can someone point me to the right direction of setting up a fresh install of ubuntu-server 9.10 with 2 150gb sata drive as either hardware raid (integrated on mobo through bios) or software raid from the partition manager in a fresh install?
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> amee2k__:  read through some of the other bug reports on hwo things get worked out. Theres common logs/debugging output that are often requested.
[07:57] <burzki> amee2k__, the bcm4306 is supported as legacy.  i can help you set that up again.  broadcom chips are notorious for their proprietary drivers
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> amee2k__:  I no longer have a  B43 based machine to even check the status of those drivers. So i cant help much in this area.
[07:57] <Gryph> I keep getting stopped at the grub install part
[07:58] <burzki> my guess is that alot of these issues are not really bugs, but driver issues from hardware mnfctrs
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> burzki:  you got it 100% - if the wireless makers worked with linux more. there would be less issues.
[07:58] <l3ns> panlin, nop, not on this machine. why?
[07:58] <xim_> why does vlc player have a little penguin wearing a santa hat for its icon right now?
[07:58] <lonejack> Hi, I did a lot of mistakes on eclipse installation. 1. Installed eclipse from synaptic. 2. installed new sw from (help->install new sw ). 3. discovered the repo yogarine (this should solve all) installed new php dev options. So... How can I uninstall all and repeat ? Give advices please, thank you
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> Of course the wireless drivers are slowly making progress. and there are often regressions in the new drivers
[07:58] <xim_> anyone else seeing that? i surely didnt swap the icon intentionally
[07:59] <quietone> I've got a machine with about 128K RAM and 20G disk. Any suggestions for how it could  be used in a small office that uses a windows network
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> xim_:  becuase vlc devs have a sence of humor
[07:59] <amee2k__> Dr_Willis: hm... okay. i'll try and make some time to take a closer look during christmas holidays
[07:59] <burzki> and any new update usually means going through all the steps over again
[07:59] <SandGorgon> anyone using chromium ? could you please test this page - http://vimcolorschemetest.googlecode.com/svn/html/index-java.html
[07:59] <amee2k__> (just for the protocol, i need the laptop functional on monday so i can't take all year long to fix it)
[07:59] <Billiard> quietone: i hope you mean 128 MB of ram at least
[07:59] <burzki> amee2k__, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[08:00] <panlin> l3ns, if you got a bluetooth, you can try blueproximity, its's cool and useful, it can lock you computer like mercedes-benz car :)
[08:00] <amee2k__> quietone: 128k would barely run dos so get a ram upgrade for it. then maybe damn small linux ir so
[08:00] <quietone> Billiard. Yes you are right 128MB and I installed from the alternative but haven't done anything since
[08:00] <Billiard> quietone: what do you want to do with the machine?
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> SandGorgon:  works in google chrome here, and firefox,. testing chromium browser now
[08:01] <Billiard> quietone: will it have a gui, or just cli
[08:01] <xim_> Dr_Willis, so you see that on your computer also?
[08:01] <SandGorgon> 128 mb should support Puppy linux - especially the NOP flavor with XFCE
[08:01] <amee2k__> burzki: right. i think i killed the web browser when i killed all the "retail environment" sh--. also, i think i found something too. brb need to reboot
[08:01] <l3ns> panlin, i have a blue tooth dangle i could try it out. :)
[08:01] <kostkon> xim_, it's an easter egg: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_egg_(media)
[08:01] <quietone> Billiard: I just want it to be useful. Maybe people come into office and print files from it. For that GUI would be better
[08:02] <Dr_Willis> xim_:  ive seen it in the past. :)
[08:02] <Dr_Willis> xim_:  ive seen other apps/games do similer things also
[08:02] <xim_> kostkon, easter eggs usually require the user to do something unusual to discover
[08:02] <Billiard> quietone: could try xfce rather than gnome, idk what you are really asking about suggests for what?
[08:02] <SandGorgon> Dr_Willis, everything fine in chromium ?
[08:02] <[1]Rob> burzki, that worked wonderfully, thank you very much!  Thanks to you too Zoug!  lol now i just have to figure out the usb wireless for this pc, but that is another day.  thanks again!
[08:02] <xim_> its TRIPPING ME OUTTTTT
[08:02] <mokmeister> i want to remove ndiswrapper from my system. Is it safe to use purge remove or could some of the configs be used by other apps?
[08:02] <xim_> ZOMG
[08:02] <Dr_Willis> SandGorgon:  that site looks fine in all 4 browsers i am using. Opera, Firefox, CHromium, Google chrome. whats the exazct issue you are having?
[08:03] <kostkon> xim_, in most cases yes, you're right
[08:03] <amee2k__> Dr_Willis: hm... point taken. i still think that ubuntu could really use a more informal way to report problems in order to live up to that "for human beings" line
[08:03] <SandGorgon> Dr_Willis, after a few (10 secs) it gives an "aw snap" error
[08:03] <burzki> [1]Rob,
[08:03] <Dr_Willis> amee2k__:  just more 'buzzwords and marketing terms' that mean very little.
[08:03] <Gryph> can someone point me to the right direction of setting up a fresh install of ubuntu-server 9.10 with 2 150gb sata drive as either hardware raid (integrated on mobo through bios) or software raid from the partition manager in a fresh install? I can't get Grub2 to install. any help would be great :)
[08:03] <quietone> Billard: I guess just how it could be used in an office environment.
[08:04] <burzki> [1]Rob, good to hear.  be sure to remove ndiswrapper from synaptic.  it could cause a conflict w/ fwcutter
[08:04] <quietone> Billard: xfce?
[08:04] <amee2k__> Dr_Willis: i know its just marketing BS. but its what people read. i mean, thats what ads are for. so no wonder that people like me then have certain expectations
[08:04] <[1]Rob> oh thanks for that too
[08:04] <Dr_Willis> SandGorgon:  couild be a version differeance. ive no issues here at all. I do notice that  google/chromouim/opera look almost identical.. firefox looks the most different of the 4.
[08:04] <Billiard> quietone: 128MB of ram isnt going to be very useful in an office environment, upgrade the ram, ram is so cheap these days
[08:05] <Dr_Willis> amee2k__:  ive noticed that people tend to  have too many 'expectations'
[08:05] <burzki> [1]Rob, great.  good luck.  well done
[08:05] <Billiard> !xfce | quietone
[08:05] <mokmeister> to clarify, "apt-get --purge remove ndiswrapper"
[08:05] <amee2k__> Dr_Willis: yeah, thats what customers do usually ;)
[08:05] <Dr_Willis> SandGorgon:  using chromium -> <IP_ADDRESS> (Ubuntu build 32323)     right now.
[08:06] <gaelfx1> StepNjump: no problem man, sorry didn't see any messages til now, was busy
[08:06] <Dr_Willis> amee2k__:  and then when they get somthing for 'free' they seem to have even worse expectataions..   vs paying $200 for an OS and  being ok with issues... (illogical i guess)
[08:06] <TerminalError> when i try and do a update or a apt-get install. It Reading Database gets to 50% then halts.
[08:06] <quietone> Billard: I will consider that. I'd have to convince the volunteer org to spend some money on it. Probably a no go as there is no local support for linux machines.
[08:06] <PDG1> quick question: I'm using gftp and when I'm transfering files its renaming the file with the entire path name. what am I doing wrong?
[08:07] <SandGorgon> Dr_Willis, i have the 4.0.272.0 (34708) Ubuntu version
[08:07] <TerminalError> i have tried a apt-get clean all and update and it still freezes/halts on 50% on the Reading Database
[08:07] <amee2k__> Dr_Willis: well, i'm using the free way because i'm not okay with having to pay for being a beta tester. and having product support ending when the product finally reaches any state of maturity
[08:08] <l3ns> hmm, I just finished mounting my second hard drive, I checked on the properties and see that there are 23.5 GB used already, but it's a newly bought hd and not supposed to have files inside. there are no files/hidden files I can see on that disk too. what could be the content of the 23.5 gb used?
[08:08] <Billiard> l3ns: how big is the drive?
[08:08] <amee2k__> thanks burzki, i got the card to at least show me the networks. still having trouble connecting though
[08:08] <Dr_Willis> amee2k__:  i find the term 'support' to be another buzzword these days also. :)  im my own support -  Then again 'support' for me being a factory worker/skilled tradesman/repairman means MUCH different things then what it means for a 'home pc user'
[08:08] <l3ns> Billiard, 500gb
[08:08] <burzki> amee2k__, maybe the "for humans" line means its not all automated for morons and it takes a human to run commandline to get it working .. ;-)
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> l3ns:  what filesystem?  5% of ext2/3/4 is reserved by defauilt.
[08:09] <Billiard> l3ns: 5% is reserved by default i believe
[08:09] <burzki> good
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> l3ns:  tuneable with the 'tune2fs' command.
[08:09] <Billiard> l3ns: you can tweak that when you make the filesystem
[08:09] <TerminalError> does anyone have any idea as to how to fix this or point me to a website that might. I have looked....
[08:09] <l3ns> ahhh i used ext3 for it. :) good to know it's done by default :)
[08:09] <l3ns> thanks guys :)
[08:10] <amee2k__> burzki: lets assume i haven't touched the other operating system from redmond since like the w2k era. i'm sure not a pro, but i think i have at least the basic skills. doesn't mean i like to have to fix everything first
[08:10] <l3ns> Dr_Willis, Billiard is 5% the minimum?
[08:11] <kitty__> ok, i am really having issues with my networking configuration, anyone able to help me?
[08:11] <l3ns> can I trim it down to just say 1gb?..
[08:11] <Dr_Willis> l3ns:  0% would be the Minimum
[08:12] <burzki> amee2k__, ditto.  me either.  but it not linx.  its coporate monay makers of hardware devices not letting the info out so we can plug it all in natively.  its a systemic difficulty
[08:12] <kitty__> l3ns : try tune2fs /dev/whatever -m new%
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> l3ns:  deopending on what the drive is used for you can lower it.. of course its not really an issue till you get the drive close to full
[08:12] <l3ns> Dr_Willis, if I do that would there be any negative effects on ym machine?
[08:12] <amee2k__> Dr_Willis: yeah, you're probably right there. in above context "support" meant something like not having the mature product replaced by the next buggy thing right away
[08:12] <TerminalError> i have a feeling it has something to do with /usr/bin/dpkg which is causing the problem
[08:12] <l3ns> kitty_, thanks! I will take not of that command :)
[08:13] <l3ns> note*
[08:13] <Dr_Willis> amee2k__:  next buggy thing = 'latest eyecandy/new gimnicky item' that a product must have or else people will call it 'old garbage' :)
[08:13] <amee2k__> burzki: well, software has issues too. especially since i seem to have a rather unusual idea of what constitutes usability
[08:13] <Dr_Willis> amee2k__:  and 9.10 is very much a 'lets try the latest stuff to get the bugs worked out so they are not in the next LTS release'   sort of product
[08:13] <burzki> i suppose we all do ..
[08:14] <Dr_Willis> Im amazed that all these wireless cards work as well as they do.
[08:14] <plustax> I need some flash help, guys. Anyone available?
[08:14] <amee2k__> <insert your favourite rant about the unr default gui here>
[08:14] <burzki> Dr_Willis, i agree about 9.10  ive skipped it altogether.  still working on 8.04 and playing in the alpha.  maybe ot
[08:15] <plustax> (pertains to ubuntu obviously)
[08:15] <Dr_Willis> this seasons cutting edge innovation becomes next seasons worthless feature. :)
[08:16] <mobi-sheep> amee2k__: I recall UNR have Desktop Switcher feature but that was Jaunty. I'm not sure about Karmic.
[08:16] <burzki> i just like a working machine
[08:16] <plustax> Anyone?
[08:16] <Dr_Willis> *cough* *compiz cube* *cough*
[08:16] <chipgeri> which is the limewire equivalent client for ubuntu?
[08:16] <Dr_Willis> !limewire | chipgeri
[08:16] <mobi-sheep> !limewire | chipgeri
[08:16] <Dr_Willis> chipgeri:  or try frostwire. :)
[08:16] <mrabti> hello
[08:16] <amee2k__> mobi-sheep: it has a strange full-screen "media center" style menu that imo is really stupid on a system designed for small screen
[08:16] <burzki> my flat screen looks well enough
[08:16] <SandGorgon> Dr_Willis, I see a lot of driver *regressions* even w.r.t ubuntu 6.06 - for e.g bug435244
[08:17] <Dr_Willis> SandGorgon:  they have been improveing the over all wireless/networking 'stack' in  the kernels from what ive read. So a lot of drivers had to get 'updated'
[08:17] <burzki> kitty_, say more about network issues?
[08:17] <mrabti> I ve installed ubuntu and have a problem with grub, when I use the commande update-grub he ive me the following error : error: cannot open `/dev/sdb' while attempting to get disk size
[08:17] <mrabti> how can I fix this probleme
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> mrabti:  seen that befor. It was not really a problem. since grub updated/installed anyway
[08:18] <SandGorgon> Dr_Willis, i'd like that to be true but (for e.g. ) Davicom Ethernet drivers have not been working since Hardy .. and open bugs have not been addressed
[08:18] <faryshta> Hi. When I boot the monitor start on max bright and the sound on minimum. How can I make the system start with other settings? (max sound and minimum brightness)
[08:18] <mobi-sheep> amee2k__: I have netbook and I'm using UNR system. It does not bother me but sometimes I'd like to avoid maximized windows and such. Will try LXDE or minimal gnome installation eventually.
[08:18] <l3ns> kitty_, i tried this command: ttune2fs /dev/sdb1 -m 0% and returns a bad reserved block ratio...
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> l3ns:  dont use a %
[08:18] <Billiard> l3ns: try taking out the % symbol
[08:19] <Dr_Willis> and you may want to set it to 1% :)
[08:19] <Dr_Willis> just in case it does fill up and needs fscked.
[08:19] <l3ns> Okay it worked :) but I can still see 198.0MB used ^^
[08:20] <OldFarter> is it possible that gpu overheating can freze the computer?
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> OldFarter:  its possible yes.
[08:20] <amee2k__> hm... where can i download ISOs for releases other than 9.10 and 8.4?
[08:20] <Flannel> amee2k__: release.ubuntu.com has all of the current ones
[08:21] <mobi-sheep> amee2k__: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/
[08:21] <pingun8> hello guys. I am running a dual boot ubuntu/wind, how can i reinstall wind partition without losing the grub or any other problems?
[08:21] <OldFarter> cause if i crank nexuiz for about 5min the mouse stop reacting and in a mather of 10sec the whole computer in not responding to anything
[08:21] <Dr_Willis> pingun8:  it pays to learn how to restore grub.
[08:21] <shane1> anyone want to test a live flash music stream for me?  now playing jessiecook:  http://snowberry.tomatoe.webqualityhost.net:5080/flowplayer2/moss/cortesradio.html
[08:21] <Dr_Willis> pingun8:  single hard drive? or 2 drives?
[08:22] <amee2k__> Flannel,mobi-sheep,thanks. where the hell do you guys know all that from? ;)
[08:22] <mobi-sheep> pingun8: You can't. Windows like to be in charge of everything and overwrite MBR. Silly, I know. :(
[08:22] <Billiard> pingun8: afaik you cant install windows without it overwritting grub with its bootloader
[08:22] <Fenix-Dark> hi
[08:22] <Fenix-Dark> i'm going to install ubuntu on a box to use as a server. it has room for 4 hard drives, I have 3 2tB hard drives for storage (using this box for network backups partly) and 1 640gB (much faster) hard drive for os/apps/more data storage. would a RAID 5 make sense for the 3 2tB hard drives? or is there a better option?
[08:22] <Flannel> amee2k__: You pick it up as you go along
[08:22] <Oasa> hi all
[08:22] <Oasa> hi all
[08:22] <amee2k__> hehe
[08:22] <mobi-sheep> Oasa: Hi. :o
[08:22] <pingun8> Dr_willis, single hdd, and I am sure there must be a way to just format the windows partition only, no?
[08:22] <plustax> How to install the non-free flash plugin?
[08:22] <Oasa> am new to ubuntu..
[08:23] <amee2k__> thats what i both love and hate linux for. you never stop learning
[08:23] <pingun8> dammn, read the onteh comments...
[08:23] <kazagistar> Is there a nice looking vertical dock for linux?
[08:23] <pingun8> that sounds real bad
[08:23] <Oasa> xactly u never stop learning..
[08:23] <Oasa> i wud like to have a help
[08:23] <faryshta> Hi. When I boot the monitor start on max bright and the sound on minimum. How can I make the system start with other settings? (max sound and minimum brightness)
[08:23] <fcuk112> kazagistar: try downloading AWN 0.4 beta, you can set it to vertical and it's awesome.
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> pingun8:   You could use dd to 'backup' your mbr then restore it from a live cd.. but thats just 1 step away from reinstalling grub with update-grub anyway
[08:23] <mobi-sheep> Oasa: Tell us your problems and if we know, we'll answer it for you.
[08:23] <Billiard> pingun8: you could backup the mbr then restore it after installing windows, but it might be easier to just fix grub with a live cd afterward
[08:23] <Oasa> hello i wud liek to knw hw to use pidgin to get
[08:23] <Oasa> windows live working
[08:24] <plustax> How to install the non-free flash plugin?
[08:24] <Billiard> Oasa: what are you having troubles with?
[08:24] <plustax> whats the command?
[08:24] <kazagistar> fcuk112: I read that AWN recently got vertical working (finally) but I couldn't see it in the repository version... thanks!
[08:24] <Billiard> Oasa: did you add your account?
[08:24] <Oasa> yeah i did
[08:24] <amee2k__> plustax: iirc theres a package, flashplugin-installer that you need to install
[08:25] <mobi-sheep> plustax: i386 or amd64?
[08:25] <Billiard> plustax: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[08:25] <Oasa> i cud configre
[08:25] <pingun8> Dr_Willis,  Billiard, so when i do it, I install windows on the original partition, then insert live-cd, and run "update-grub", is that all i need?
[08:25] <Oasa> google talk
[08:25] <plustax> intel
[08:25] <kiren> is there a way to tell how much video memory a card has from linux?
[08:25] <shane1> plustax: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[08:25] <Billiard> pingun8: no
[08:25] <Oasa> but cunt configure live and yahoo
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> flashplugin-installer - Adobe Flash Player plugin installer
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> flashplugin-nonfree - Adobe Flash Player plugin installer (transitional package)
[08:25] <TerminalError> when i try and do a update or a apt-get install. It Reading Database gets to 50% then halts. it does not even get to how many files or dir are currently installed before it freezes. I think it might be hanging on something that is not allowing it to finish
[08:25] <pingun8> Billiard what else?
[08:25] <amee2k__> plustax: at least for me, it requires periodic reinstallation because it likes to break itself every couple days
[08:25] <Oasa> Billiard: helo me
[08:25] <Billiard> pingun8: you need to chroot into your installation and update grub afaik
[08:25] <Oasa> sum1 pls help me
[08:26] <Billiard> Oasa: i am helping you and other people please wait more than 30 seconds for a response
[08:26] <pingun8> what's "afaik"?
[08:26] <amee2k__> as far as i know
[08:26] <Billiard> pingun8: afaik = as far as i know
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub | pingun8
[08:26] <Oasa> okay
[08:26] <faryshta> How do I make my Karmic start without mute?
[08:26] <Oasa> am getting confised dats y
[08:26] <TerminalError> yea whenever someone gets a chance i am having some difficulty as well
[08:27] <mrabti> The problem that is really annoying right now on ubuntu is that my computer freeze randomly right after grub
[08:27] <Billiard> Oasa: for live messenger you choose msn for the protocol? have you done that?
[08:27] <plustax> im trying to get my cam to work with stickam
[08:27] <plustax> but it wont work
[08:27] <Oasa> yeah
[08:27] <plustax> and also the stickam player for the chat the whole window is all like...white
[08:27] <Billiard> Oasa: does it give you an error when you attempt to connect or what?
[08:27] <pingun8> Dr_Willis, " for Ubuntu releases before Karmic (9.10"?
[08:27] <plustax> and crappy looking and sometimes it wont let me type
[08:27] <Oasa> itz shwinbg our protocol is nt supported by server
[08:27] <plustax> messages in the chat
[08:27] <plustax> help!
[08:27] <TerminalError> i wonder if there is a way to purge the database or something so that it won't freeze when i try to update or install something
[08:27] <Billiard> Oasa: which version ubuntu are you using?
[08:27] <pingun8> Dr_Willis, sorry
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> pingun8:  time to check some of the wiki/grub pages. boot live, chroot in properly, run update-grub
[08:28] <pingun8> Dr_Willis, i found the "grub2"....
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> thats teh basics for 9.04 and 9.10 :) and 8.xx
[08:28] <Oasa> 8.04
[08:28] <pingun8> !grub2
[08:28] <TerminalError> because it (Reading database ... 50% then just stops.....
[08:29] <Billiard> Oasa: you may need to upgrade, older versions of pidgin might not work well
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> TerminalError:  theres some files in /var/apt you might want to remove.. but  that can also break things.
[08:29] <Oasa> hw to upgrade?
[08:29] <Oasa> i mean apt-get den wats
[08:29] <Oasa> package name?
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> TerminalError:  oops its /var/cache/apt :)
[08:30] <Billiard> Oasa: im talking about your ubuntu release
[08:30] <TerminalError> ah ok was like there is no /var/apt lol
[08:30] <kitty____> anyone anybit familiar with software routers?
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> when in doubt - nest things more