[00:00] <astruasdh> Polah after grub-install, I will update-grub2: this package came with the grub-pc. probably update-grub is for the old grub
[00:01] <Polah> astruasdh, update-grub2? Never heard of it, I know there's update-grub though
[00:01] <djskidd> FUUUUUU.
[00:01] <merryman540> Gredeu - is there any place you could refer me to where I could learn how to do all that. I'm afraid partitioning in linux tends to fuddle my brain lol1
[00:01] <astruasdh> Polah yeah, there is update-grub also. probably update-grub2 is for grub2
[00:01] <djskidd> So.
[00:01] <[Ex0r]> Hmm, is there a package I can download for installing ati radeon drivers on ubuntu that can be done from cli ?
[00:01] <Polah> astruasdh, I've used update-grub with grub2
[00:01] <djskidd> Reinstalling Ubuntu on the SAME COMPUTER.
[00:02] <escott> Polah, astruasdh update-grub2 is a symlink
[00:02] <bazhang> djskidd, have an actual question?
[00:02] <Polah> djskidd: Okay, what's the problem?
[00:02] <Polah> escott: to update-grub?
[00:02] <escott> Polah, yes
[00:02] <MonkeyDust> djskidd: not too complicated, if you keep your /home partition separated
[00:02] <djskidd> I was updating 10.10 to 11.04, and the power glitched out during.
[00:02] <Geodude> Is there any way to make >>sudo iwlist wlan0 scan<< show only my ESSID that I'm connected to? Or just a particular one. isntead of all within range. Also, is there an indicator applet that I can make do this command every so many minutes and display results? I'm very unhappy with the "sometimes 3 bars, usually 4 bars" approach. I no longer even receive the percentage signal tooltip in 11.04
[00:02] <com3> thank you escott and zykotick9_
[00:03] <com3> it works
[00:03] <escott> djskidd, and can you boot to single use mode?
[00:04] <nathanj> i need help
[00:04] <djskidd> I can boot to XP, when I attempted booting to Ubuntu, it said "Partition for / is not ready or not present.",
[00:04] <djskidd> so I had to go reinstall
[00:04] <nathanj> i need to know how to chane ownership of a folder and allow myself access to it
[00:04] <escott> !permissions | nathanj
[00:04] <com3> can i run two net interfaces with NM
[00:04] <com3> ?
[00:04] <astruasdh> Polah hitting update-grub --version and update-grub2 --version, the same string was returned. Maybe are only a kind of alias. I will first update-grub and then update-grub2. This way I think will end with a good system
[00:05] <com3> for internet share
[00:05] <escott> !ics | com3
[00:05] <nathanj> not permissions.... ownership
[00:05] <djskidd> Anyone know how I can host an FTP server for my house?
[00:05] <escott> astruasdh, ls -l `which update-grub2`
[00:06] <djskidd> Like have 3 folders, all password-protected
[00:06] <com3> ty
[00:06] <ldz420> question.. I am trying to install scala and use java's jvm.. does scala package automatically install java or must I do this separately ?
[00:07] <computerx> Easiest way to detect Ubuntu from a bash script?
[00:07] <shadows090> i know this isn't a server irc channel, but is anybody here *really* familiar with servers?
[00:07] <nathanj> the real problem is that my ubuntu install has just crapped itself and i need to back my stuff up to a windows machine but on the windows machine it wont let me access the files
[00:07] <vyshay_> i am a server
[00:07] <djskidd> So I had an idea at school today for a new Ubuntu: Jabuntu!
[00:07] <escott> Computer, lsb-release
[00:07] <computerx> shadows090: That's an amazingly open question!
[00:07] <vyshay_> i shit servers
[00:07] <djskidd> Jabuntu would be Ubuntu under the Java core!
[00:08] <shadows090> computerx, yeah i know. i'm having to set up two rack servers, but i'm stuck on what hardware to get though
[00:08] <computerx> shadows090: I guess it's internal, and not through a provider?
[00:09] <djskidd> aw
[00:10] <computerx> OK escott, I get "core-2.0-amd64:core-2.0-noarch:core-3.0-amd64:core-3.0-noarch:core-3.1-amd64:core-3.1-noarch:core-3.2-amd64:core-3.2-noarch:core-4.0-amd64:core-4.0-noarch" - not sure how I'm meant to know if this is Ubuntu from that
[00:10] <computerx> Or is the very existance of that command Ubuntu specific?
[00:10] <escott> computerx, lsb_release -i
[00:10] <shadows090> computerx. correct. i'm familiar with setting up servers (all of the os and software), but i don't know what sort of hardware would be required
[00:11] <astruasdh> escott the md5sum of both, update-grub and update-grub2 are not the same... but the --verison is the same. I will update-grub and then update-grub2. What do you think? nice?
[00:11] <shadows090> computerx, i'd be running about 4-5 vhosts on each one, magento installations (which are pretty demanding)
[00:12] <escott> astruasdh, on my system (perhaps not on yours) update-grub2 symlinks to update-grub so they have to have the same md5sum
[00:12] <computerx> escott: Ahh, I see! Sorry :)
[00:13] <computerx> shadows090: See, normally I'd ask the people I was hosting the server with for advice... ;)
[00:14] <astruasdh> escott here is not symlinking... but it appear to be the same
[00:14] <shadows090> computerx, lol yeah that's not a bad idea. we're moving our dev and staging servers away from hosting though, and moving to in house.
[00:15] <nathanj> please. my hard drive is dying. i dont have time to go learning about all the ins and outs of sharing folders and stuff i need to copy everything i can of before it gives up
[00:16] <nathanj> i managed to take ownership of the folder
[00:16] <nathanj> cool
[00:16] <nathanj> now i need to allow access to a windows machine to it
[00:16] <nathanj> the windows machine can see it but when it tries to copy from it, it says i need to give permissions
[00:17] <nathanj> can anyone tell me what i need to do??
[00:18] <nathanj> noone?
[00:18] <nathanj> well thanks for your help then
[00:19] <escott> nathanj, setting up things like samba is opposite the quick fix
[00:22] <nathanj> man i neer asked how to set up samba. the windows machine can see and read the files on my hard drive. but when i go to copy them to the win7 machine, it says on the win7 machine that "you require permissions from the systems administrator etc"
[00:23] <OerHeks> nathanj, this maybe a help > https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/samba-fileserver.html#samba-fileserver-configuration for guest file permissions
[00:24] <OerHeks> else your HDD is really dying
[00:24] <escott> nathanj, that would be a samba config issue
[00:25] <nathanj> i know that. is there a way to just turn all samba security off and allow everyone full access to the share folder?
[00:26] <Axlin> Hey guys. I'm having some trouble launching Tomboy on Kubuntu 11.04. I filed a bug report for it, but I figured I might as well ask on IRC as well, in case somebody here could point me in the right direction. Here's the report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tomboy/+bug/852278
[00:26] <Axlin> I understand that this is #ubuntu, but I have a feeling this is more Mono/Tomboy related than Kubuntu-specific, which is why I'm also asking in here.
[00:27] <escott> nathanj, given that is something nobody would recommend in any normal situation. i doubt you will find an answer here. why not just remove the drive and physically connect it to the other machine
[00:27] <davis> i am trying to see linux kernel boot messages. /etc/default/grub settings for splash and quiet don't change the display.  I can not get a splash screen or boot messages regardless of settings.  I am also doing update-grub.  Any clue what is wrong?
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> nathanj: if you run:  sudo smbpasswd -a $USER    and set a password, you can authenticate as that user
[00:27] <computerx> shadows090: I find having an under-powered dev and stage server with poor optimisation (like low key buffer and no query cache on your sql) is a good thing. It forces you to write better code, and only makes your live system work better in the end
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> nathanj: also make sure the partition is mounted writable
[00:27] <plummerb> Ok...  How do I see errors parsing MIB files when launching SNMPD?
[00:27] <nathanj> ActionParsnip, thank you so much
[00:27] <computerx> shadows090: Infact, I've purposefully crippled my apache/mysql on my development servers
[00:28] <shadows090> computerx, i appreciate the advice. how did you cripple apache/mysql?
[00:28] <tenX> nathanj: actually i wonder about that error msg. if samba would deny access the error should be about access denied but not asking for admin privileges i'd think
[00:28] <nathanj> it wont let me add a samba user anyway
[00:28] <nathanj> never mind its going in the bin now.. thanks for the help
[00:29] <tenX> nathanj: add a samba user?
[00:29] <computerx> shadows090: As mentioned, low buffers and set query cache to on-demand only, kept the apache threads low etc
[00:30] <computerx> shadows090: I also turned PHP's magic quotes on, so I know my scripts will work around it
[00:30] <shadows090> computerx. ah ok. our (small) team just develops magento (a shopping cart platform if you're not familiar with it) so when we develop we turn caching off (for other reason). It does make it dirt slow though, even on powerful dedicated servers
[00:31] <computerx> shadows090: Ahh, I've developed my own shopping cart platform. Yes, I'm a masochist.
[00:32] <shadows090> computerx, lol i've considered making one in python, or extending a current framework into a shopping cart platform. I'm not really that good yet though
[00:33] <computerx> shadows090: I consider myself an expert PHP developer, and have a mental problem that I always use my own code...
[00:33] <plummerb> Why isn't SNMP working?  Hows that for general?
[00:35] <shadows090> computerx, well its great to know the internals of code though. Sometimes it's best to just write your own, instead of take the time to understand someone else's.  I'm still not that great with php, or programming in general.  I even wrote my own bbcode parser...
[00:39] <Polah> How do I run a command detached from a terminal, i.e. if I close the terminal the process I started will continue to rn
[00:39] <Polah> run*
[00:40] <z3bra> "nohup <command>; exit"
[00:41] <tenX> &
[00:41] <NeedGrubHelp> How do I add "i1915.modeset=1" to your GRUB settings in Ubuntu/Lucid....grub.conf is gone...
[00:41] <Quantum_Ion> Boy this channel is DEAD tonight
[00:42] <Quantum_Ion> Since it's Friday everyone must be out on a hot date tonight
[00:42] <z3bra>  /quit
[00:42] <escott> NeedGrubHelp, /etc/default/grub then update-grub
[00:42] <plummerb> I'm going to be.
[00:43] <NeedGrubHelp> escott: there is no grub file in /etc/default
[00:43] <Quantum_Ion> plummerb, I need to catch some extra Zzzz's because 2012 is right around the corner the end of the world
[00:43] <plummerb> Yes, we will need the sleep then.
[00:44] <Quantum_Ion> lol
[00:44] <nankura> hey guys. anyone here know much about E17?
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> NeedGrubHelp: add it in /etc/default/grub    in the quotes with: quiet splash    save the new file and run:  sudo update-grub
[00:45] <escott> NeedGrubHelp, what version of grub do you have installed dpkg -l "*grub*"
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: I'm at work here, all the way til 7:30am
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: no hot date for me
[00:46] <NeedGrubHelp> escott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/691169/
[00:47] <NeedGrubHelp> ActionParsnip: First off, cool name haha.....not sure I understand your comment...I have no grub file so this would be the only line in there if I added it
[00:47] <jon_high9000> Hi. is there anyone here who can help me regarding control resources. my HD light is on pretty much all the time now. i would like to get a handle on it asap.
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> NeedGrubHelp: its not, grub2 has a lot of lines in that file
[00:48] <escott> NeedGrubHelp, so thats confusing because you have both grub1 and grub2 installed, and it is unclear what one you are actually using to boot.
[00:48] <ewook> jon_high9000: man lsof
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> jon_high9000: run:   top     see what is using a lot of resources
[00:48] <escott> NeedGrubHelp, I would recommend completing the grub2 transition
[00:49] <nronksr> What is a good GUI files & folders search app that is as good as the terminal app find?
[00:49] <NeedGrubHelp> escott: how so? the computer was recently upgraded from Hardy to Lucid....that may be what happened
[00:49] <nixnine> hey guys, I had several cups updates and now I cannot print anything.  I get errors: Print command failed with status code 1. lpr -P Deskjet_F300.  Anyone know about this?
[00:50] <escott> NeedGrubHelp, see if this is applicable http://www.unixnewbie.org/how-to-easily-upgrade-grub-2/
[00:50] <jon_high9000> ewook: thank you . very much. :)
[00:50] <davis> how do you determine what distro you are running?
[00:51] <jon_high9000> ActionParsnip: is that HTop you are talking about?
[00:51] <Gray> nixnine, did you try googling the exact error message?
[00:51] <rogerio> hello,I'm from Brazil
[00:52] <ewook> jon_high9000: sorry, lsof is a bit of a struggle to get a grip on without the man-pages *_*
[00:52] <escott> NeedGrubHelp, it would help to know what bootloader you are actually using to boot. the grub splash screen should state the version number at the top
[00:52] <rogerio> help me
[00:52] <escott> davis, lsb_release
[00:52] <nixnine> Yeah but what resulted was different things.
[00:52] <ewook> jon_high9000: htop is a ncurses-version of top
[00:53] <ewook> escott: lsb_release -a ?
[00:53] <davis> escott: thanks
[00:53] <danker> helo, I need to know where I can download oil rush game (full-free) for linujx
[00:53] <ewook> danker: hopefully from the repos.
[00:53] <jon_high9000> ewook: thanks. :)
[00:53] <davis> escott: it says no lsb modules are available
[00:54] <davis> i did not see anything like /etc/redhat-release
[00:54] <davis> i don't know if I am on edgy, hardy, etc
[00:54] <escott> davis, as ewook suggested use the -a flag (in general if a program doesn't give you want you want try program --help)
[00:55] <davis> ahh, i see it in the first tab of update-manager as well.
[00:55] <davis> thanks guys
[00:57] <Gray> nixnine, do you have the latest HPLIP drivers?
[00:58] <rasusto> hello all. im trying to use 'find' to locate all files non-mp3 files in a folder heiarchy. anyone know how to do this?
[00:58] <nixnine> well, according to synaptic I do
[00:58] <NeedWirelessHelp> escott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/691182/
[00:59] <gayle> rasusto: Use ls and grep
[00:59] <rogerio> i'm sorry which country this chat
[00:59] <escott> NeedWirelessHelp, so now the old grub is marked for removal, but config files remain. purging it will completely remove it, but you should make sure your system is still bootable
[01:00] <gayle> ls |grep -v mp3
[01:00] <Lithos84> !br | rogerio
[01:00] <NeedWirelessHelp> escott: it boots and I now have a file called grub in /etc/default with data in it
[01:00] <escott> NeedWirelessHelp, a grub2 setup includes the following: /etc/default/grub /boot/grub/grub.conf and grub2 on the mbr
[01:00] <Gray> installing the newest version directly from HP might help, but I'm not sure to be honest
[01:01] <Gray> if you want to give it a try here is the link:
[01:01] <escott> NeedWirelessHelp, you can maybe check that grub-install is doing grub2 install and reinstall to the mbr if you are worried about that last step
[01:01] <Gray> http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install_wizard/index.html
[01:01] <NeedWirelessHelp> escott: thanks! do I now add i1915.modeset=1 in a line by itself?
[01:01] <escott> NeedWirelessHelp, there is also some bootscript thing floating around that will inspect your mbr and tell you what kind of grub is there
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> rasusto: find -t f /path/folder | grep -v -i "*.mp3"        (as far as I'm aware) will find all non mp3 files in a folder (and subfolders)
[01:01] <rajmahendra> I am using Ubuntu 10.4  I want to move the windows  minimize maximize close button to right side. How to do this ?
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> !controls | rajmahendra
[01:02] <ewook> rogerio: basic knowledge is that english seems to be the default language all around.
[01:02] <escott> NeedWirelessHelp, no in the LINUX_DEFAULT line (next to quiet splash)
[01:02] <escott> NeedWirelessHelp, then run update-grub
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> rasusto: there are literally THOUSANDS of guides for this online, did you not find any?
[01:02] <rajmahendra> !
[01:02] <escott> ActionParsnip, rasusto find -t f -iname "*.mp3" /path/to/folder
[01:02] <NeedWirelessHelp> escott: ok and do it inside the quotes like this: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash i1915.modeset=1"
[01:03] <escott> NeedWirelessHelp, yes
[01:03] <seattlerain> I was just in #windows and mentioned Ubuntu. turns out the majority of people in the Windows IRC aren't running Windows at all. They are running Ubuntu and want it everywhere. Funny.
[01:03] <NeedWirelessHelp> escott: trying it now...thanks!
[01:03] <ChristopherNG> rajmahendra: !english
[01:04] <escott> rasusto, and the path goes before -t and -t is -type
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> escott: thanks, a bit tired here
[01:04] <rasusto> guys i am trying to locate all the files that ARENT mp3s
[01:04] <rajmahendra> !english
[01:04] <escott> ActionParsnip, as am I :)
[01:04] <rasusto> so i can clean all the junk files out of my music folders
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> escott: file extension may be MP£ though, grep -i helps
[01:05] <escott> rasusto, then use the grep version and do grep -v "*.mp3"
[01:05] <rasusto> aha!
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> rasusto: then you want my command, it has the inverted grep
[01:05]  * ActionParsnip sits quiet
[01:06] <rajmahendra> ActionParsnip, thank you.
[01:06] <rogerio> jeS
[01:08] <gx> hey guys, i'm having an issue with apache/php5 .. is there some way to reinstall both of them over top without losing my config?
[01:08] <escott> gx, just dont purge
[01:08] <nunuyabiz> I'm having a problem burning an image from a cd. I need the file /usr/bin/toc2cue  I believe it is in a Medibuntu repository. Does anyone know which repository it is in?
[01:09] <escott> nunuyabiz, did you not install cdrdao
[01:10] <nunuyabiz> escott apt-get couldn't find it. I think it's because I don't have the repository that I need
[01:10] <danker> ewook: Thank
[01:10] <rogerio> jesse;help me
[01:11] <nunuyabiz> escott man you must have a lot of spare time to sit here and help people all day!
[01:12] <danker> ewook: on repo is only demo, thank
[01:12] <Gray> maybe someone here who knows more about printing will be able to help you, nixnine
[01:12] <_jesse_> rogerio: what?
[01:12] <escott> nunuyabiz, im avoiding work
[01:13] <nunuyabiz> escott well I hope that works out for you! LOL
[01:13] <rogerio> jesse;i do not speak english.
[01:14] <rogerio> jesse; i'm rom Brazil
[01:14] <nixnine> Okay.  Thanks.  I've got another error that popped up.  going to check it out.
[01:14] <_jesse_> rogerio: what language do you speak?
[01:14] <_jesse_> ah
[01:14] <Gray> sorry I couldn't be of more assistance
[01:14] <_jesse_> I can't remember the bot command now
[01:14] <bazhang> !br | rogerio
[01:15] <rogerio> jesse,portuguese
[01:15] <_jesse_> rogerio: I know :)
[01:15] <_jesse_> thanks bazhang
[01:16] <notverygoodatthi> I am failing with this partitioning thing, can I get some help please?
[01:16] <escott> notverygoodatthi, could you be more specific about what you are trying to do and what is going wrong
[01:16] <rogerio> jess; i'm learnig english
[01:17] <bambanx> hello
[01:18] <bazhang> rogerio, this is ubuntu support; did you have a support question? if not, please chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:18] <rogerio> jesse;which country is this
[01:19] <bazhang> rogerio, please, this is NOT the chat channel.
[01:19] <israel> hello
[01:19] <israel> hi
[01:20] <rogerio> bazhang, thankyou,bay
[01:20] <israel> hi
[01:21] <nunuyabiz> escott I can't believe it. It was in synaptic all the time. I ran apt-get install cdrdao but it didn't work. I didn't know that if it didn't work in apt-get that it could still be in synaptic.
[01:22] <_jesse_> rogerio: this channel is for ubuntu support in english
[01:22] <sean_> I could use some advice. I just installed ubuntu minimal and when I boot the pc I get a black screen with a blue and black line of pixels across the screen.
[01:22] <nunuyabiz> escott thanks for your help. now maybe I can put my iso on my hard drive.
[01:22] <escott> nunuyabiz, very odd
[01:22] <escott> sean_, have you tried nomodeset
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> sean_: can you boot to root recovery mode?
[01:23] <spec_> i installed ubuntu on my notebook recently and now it's freezing at a purple screen on boot. the ubuntu logo with five dots comes up but then no activity. how do i figure out what's going on.
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> spec_: do you get the login screen, or did you enable autologin?
[01:24] <notverygoodatthi> okay, so I'm trying to install Ubuntu studio from a USB drive (to dual boot) and as far as I know it's using the standard linux partitioning tool. I set aside 15 gigs of unallocated hard drive space for Ubuntu but the partitioning software doesn't recognize this. instead it shows the unallocated space as part of either the main partition or the "recovery" partition, neither of which it wil
[01:24] <notverygoodatthi> l allow me to resize. (it also seems to see the recovery drive as not having a file system). How can I get it to recognize the unallocated space, or a separate partition? (which I also have tried with the same results as above)
[01:24] <notverygoodatthi> whew, that took a while to type
[01:24] <sean_> escott, no what is nomodeset?
[01:24] <spec_> action - it does not get to the login screen.
[01:24] <spec_> it does respond to ctrl alt del between just resets
[01:24] <sean_> ActionParsnip, yes I can go into recovery
[01:24] <escott> sean_, its a kernel boot option to prevent it from doing some things with the graphics card
[01:25] <sean_> escott, how do i load into it?
[01:25] <escott> notverygoodatthi, how big is the drive you are trying to install to
[01:25] <notverygoodatthi> 250gigs total
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> sean_: cool, get a wired connection and get updated, may help
[01:26] <escott> notverygoodatthi, and what tool did you use to set aside the unallocated space
[01:26] <urlin2u> notverygoodatthi, can you open the partitioner gparted and take a screen shot and imagebin it.
[01:26] <notverygoodatthi> I used the built in windows 7 partitioning tool
[01:26] <nronksr> What are some favorite GUI file/folder search tools?
[01:26] <notverygoodatthi> should I use Gparted instead?
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> nronksr: 'find' is al I use
[01:27] <escott> spec_, edit /etc/default/grub to have nosplash noquiet instead of splash quiet and then run update-grub
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> mrmist: beagle exists
[01:27] <spec_> ah in grub it let me choose a previous version and that one loads.
[01:27] <spec_> -11 fails but -8 works.
[01:27] <ChapaAnd> i need help with this error adduser: El usuario `timidity' no existe.
[01:27] <spec_> it must have been some failed auto update
[01:27] <escott> notverygoodatthi, maybe. at the least we would be familiar with gparted
[01:28] <nronksr> ActionParsnip: Yeah, I use find myself, but the wife is a GUI'er... and I don't know what to give her that is comparable. heh
[01:28] <notverygoodatthi> okay. I will get a screenshot, one minute
[01:29] <sean_> ActionParsnip, is there a way to move shell prompt up a line (it is off screen currently)
[01:29] <ChapaAnd> hey people i am new using ubuntu and when i try installing something in sudo i get this error adduser: El usuario `timidity' no existe.
[01:29] <ChristopherNG> why do very few woman use linux? I think there are a few but there input to linux is very small?
[01:29] <ChapaAnd> can any one tell me what to do
[01:29] <bazhang> !ot | ChristopherNG
[01:30] <ChristopherNG> bazhang: I thought i was in offtopic lol
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> nronksr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FindingFiles
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> ChapaAnd: does that mean 'the user timidity doesn't exist'?
[01:31] <nronksr> ActionParsnip: Thanks!
[01:31] <notverygoodatthi> is gparted something you can run in windows?
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> nronksr: all I did was websearch...
[01:31] <urlin2u> notverygoodatthi, it should be on the linux live disc
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> notverygoodatthi: its in Ubuntu, if you cross compiled it could be. Windows7 can resize it's own partitions if that's what you wantr
[01:32] <Nasr20112011> Hello every body , my asus f5r with ubuntu 11.04 installed freezes when i remove AC power supply .It continue to work well for a while then it's completely freeze.
[01:32] <nronksr> ActionParsnip: Yeah, I had a brain lock on tunnel vision, I forgot about the internet. hah
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> nronksr: good ol duck :)
[01:32] <nixnine> Okay.  Got the printer working.  Had to modify settings in printer.conf file.  The new error found the answer.
[01:32] <supernero> So hey, if i have 2 internet connections (tether to phone AND wifi), is there a way i can somehow select which connection an application uses?
[01:32]  * nronksr quacks
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> Nasr20112011: got latest BIOS?
[01:32] <notverygoodatthi> I'm installing ubuntu studio and it's not a live CD, idk if there is one for studio
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> Nasr20112011: any bugs reported?
[01:33] <wdd> can anyone grab a journal article for me, im not on campus
[01:33] <Nasr20112011> ن
[01:33] <gx> is it safe to apt-get remove libssl0.9.8 ? apt is giving me a 'potentially harmful' warning
[01:33] <macer1> gx, it is a server OS or desktop?
[01:33] <ChapaAnd> hey p
[01:33] <escott> gx, your system should still boot, but anything needing that library may break
[01:34] <Ed34232> hi guys! can anyone help me with an install of unbutu im having problems with? im trying to install it along win7 but so far when it boots only win7 starts and no option to start with the unbutu i installed
[01:34] <Ed34232> pls pm
[01:34] <Nasr20112011> i don't know how to update BIOS  !! :: NO bugs reported
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> Ed34232: boot to ubuntu CD and reinstate grub2
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> Nasr20112011: do you have windows on the system too?
[01:34] <escott> Nasr20112011, bios updates are usually done through windows or dos
[01:34] <gx> escott: i had zend server installed, and it was conflicting with apache2... i've removed zend server, as well as apache2+php and reinstalled them... yet i'm still getting the same error.
[01:34] <Ed34232> can i pm you actionparsnip?
[01:34] <gx> i'm thinking if i purge libssl and reinstall it might fix that
[01:35] <gx> but i really dont know what im doing here :p
[01:35] <Nasr20112011> No , i dont have windows .. only ubuntu
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> Nasr20112011: hmm, makes bios stuff trickier. I suggest you reoprt a bug with acpi
[01:36] <gx> http://pastebin.com/t4g9bT7y
[01:36] <gx> that error is what scares me
[01:36] <gx> er
[01:36] <gx> warning, rather
[01:37] <urlin2u> notverygoodatthi, actually there is a live disc, I think our concern here is whether you have maxed out the allowed primary partitions allowed, do you have any live ubuntu disc gparted is on those.
[01:37] <Ed34232> how you do reinstate grub2
[01:37] <Evanescence> how to write crontab for "the third Saturday in September"
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> Ed34232: http://www.robertbeal.com/562/rebuilding-grub2-grub-cfg-from-ubuntu-live-cd
[01:38] <notverygoodatthi> urlin2u, I just burned a gparted disc, might as well use it
[01:38] <fbdystang> Anybody an avid git user?
 Thankyou i will try .
[01:39] <rww> fbdystang: It's offtopic for #ubuntu, too.
[01:39] <escott> fbdystang, yes
[01:39] <urlin2u> notverygoodatthi, yeah I thin you can save a screen shot to a thumb/usb flash, are you familiar with the 4 primary partitions , or 3 primary and one extended per HD limitations
[01:39] <rww> fbdystang: You've been told about #git. If everyone else followed the "Not getting help in the right place, let's go visit random channels!" idea, IRC would be even more of a mess.
[01:39] <escott> !grub | Ed34232
[01:40] <fbdystang> rww: point taken, I will take it to #git
[01:41] <AGKdomo> I had a failed upgrade to 11.10 so I had to do a clean install of 11.04 but now my wireless is not working.. any solutions ?
[01:41] <notverygoodatthi> no, is four the maximum allowed number of partitions on an HD?
[01:41] <gayle> AGKdomo: Is it a laptop?
[01:41] <AGKdomo> yes
[01:41] <gayle> How about the switch?
[01:41] <Evanescence> how to write crontab for "the third Saturday in September"
[01:41] <urlin2u> notverygoodatthi, yes I think that is probably the problem.
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> AGKdomo: what is the output of: sudo lshw -C network; dmesg | grep -i firm; lsusb; lsb_release -a
[01:42] <AGKdomo> orange I keep pressing but it wo.t turn on
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> AGKdomo: use a pastebin to hold the text
[01:42] <escott> notverygoodatthi, the maximum for primary partitions but you can have one (or more) be extended and those can have like 255 each
[01:42] <urlin2u> notverygoodatthi, 4 primamry partitions there is a extended tyoe that can have a unlimited logical type that ubuntu or any linux run in.
[01:43] <notverygoodatthi> can I change a normal primary partition into an extended one?
[01:43] <notverygoodatthi> ...or something like that
[01:44] <urlin2u> notverygoodatthi, not without deleting the content.
[01:44] <urlin2u> notverygoodatthi, the extended is actually a container for logicals.
[01:44] <escott> notverygoodatthi, no. you could (very carefully) construct an extended partition and a logical partition that EXACTLY matches the original primary partition
[01:45] <escott> notverygoodatthi, and i THINK that gparted may have some ability to help with that
[01:45] <Raziekiel> Having some audio issues, I don't have any sound. Can anyone help me troubleshoot? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11257976#post11257976
[01:45] <waiguoren> hi there, im trying to connect to a VPN butmy connection keeps timing out (with network manager) , i was wondering if there are some log files i can look at , to learn more about the problem, (i can connect fine thru command line)
[01:45] <notverygoodatthi> escott, that sounds time consuming and risky
[01:46] <sanelunasea> How can I disable whatever it is that automatically switches windows to fullscreen when I move them to the top of my screen?
[01:46] <ghostxx> Can someone help me guide me through to install wireless adapter?
[01:46] <gayle> AGKdomo: What is the make and model?
[01:47] <notverygoodatthi> I'm staring at gparted right now on my main screen typing on an ubuntu netbook, is the screenshot still relevant? I'm going to have to go back onto windows to get more info on what the current partitions are for
[01:47] <ganymede11> Greetings #ubuntu
[01:47] <urlin2u> ghostxx, you will nede to be specific with the usb device.
[01:47] <gayle> Raziekiel: Try alsamixer (see that it is properly recognized and that channels are not muted or turned down).
[01:47] <urlin2u> or the adapter ghostcart
[01:48] <Raziekiel> gayle, I've tried that, nothing is muted and it all looks right
[01:48] <urlin2u> notverygoodatthi, do you have a tumb to save a screenshot to?
[01:48] <urlin2u> thimb*
[01:48] <ganymede11> I have an old laptop which has no cd rom support because of a defective drive, additionally it cannot boot to a USB device. It does have a floppy drive that works. Is it possible to set up a network image server and install linux to the laptop without having usb OR cd rom support? Or is that just not possible?
[01:48] <conrad90> How do I view the wtmp log file?  It is not letting me
[01:49] <gayle> Raziekiel: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp  #Do you hear noise?  Any errors?  Let us know.
[01:49] <notverygoodatthi> yes but I can't figure out how to access it using the gparted interface
[01:49] <waiguoren> ganymede11, does is have an OS?
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> ganymede11: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/use-a-floppy-to-boot-usb-pendrive-linux/
[01:49] <rectec794613> Everytime I unplug my laptop's AC adapter, I get a message saying that the battery's low. Any suggestions?
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> ganymede11: that image will make a boot floppy which can boot usb
[01:49] <urlin2u> notverygoodatthi, if you hit the prtsc key it may let you save it to a exteranl
[01:50] <ganymede11> waiguoren,  no because i just recently swapped a defective drive from it. Now the old drive does have an os and is still bootable. But the new hard drive is totally blank
[01:50] <Raziekiel> gayle, I get a "bash: /dev/dsp: Permission denied" error, ran both as user and as su
[01:50] <escott> Raziekiel, sudo -i first
[01:50] <Dylan2236> Guys I am so Windows Sick.
[01:50] <ganymede11> sounds like I am without any options in this scenario
[01:50] <Dylan2236> I miss Windows.
[01:50] <notverygoodatthi> there's a screenshot button on the desktop which I used but it just automatically saved it to /home/user
[01:50] <ganymede11> Dylan2236,  which bit do yuo miss?  :P
[01:50] <urlin2u> !ot | Dylan2236
[01:51] <ghostxx> Can someone help me guide me through to install wireless adapter PCI card?
[01:51] <ghostxx> urlin2u, its a pci wireless card
[01:51] <urlin2u> ghostxx, we need to know what it is.
[01:51] <ganymede11> ActionParsnip,  I am actively searching my basement and other areas of home for another floppy drive
[01:52] <ganymede11> I am surprised a dell inspiron 8100 cannot USB boot
[01:52] <ganymede11> I know it's old but I am bored this is what I wanted to do.
[01:52] <urlin2u> ghostxx, lspci -v will give you a list to find it.
[01:52] <Raziekiel> gayle, it's just sitting there, I don't hear anything
[01:52] <sanelunasea> How can I disable whatever it is that automatically switches my windows to fullscreen when I move them to the top of my screen?
[01:53] <ganymede11> I was wrong in assuming that I could connect the laptop to a router which is connectewd to a computer running an image server and it would just "see" the image server and begin to cast the image to the laptop's hard drive
[01:53] <ganymede11> from PXE boot i mean
[02:00] <organiks> hey all
[02:00] <urlin2u> notverygoodatthi, what happens if you hit the prtrsc key?
[02:01] <notverygoodatthi> nothing as far as I can tell
[02:01] <LedHed> is there a limit to the number of CPU/cores on a 32bit OS?
[02:01] <organiks> if i ssh in how can i make what i have go onto the screen?
[02:01] <urlin2u> notverygoodatthi, so looking at gparted how many partitions do you see?
[02:01] <notverygoodatthi> it's an fn key, idk if those necessarily work on other OSes?
[02:01] <LedHed> I have a Dual Opteron (24 cores total) and only 8 are showing up in top
[02:01] <rectec794613> I'm buried in a sea of status messages. How can I turn off the alerts telling me _____ has joined or quit?
[02:02] <ActionParsnip> LedHed: its determined by parameters in the kernel, not the bits really
[02:02] <rectec794613> in xchat
[02:02] <notverygoodatthi> 4
[02:02] <urlin2u> notverygoodatthi, named sda1 to 4?
[02:02] <LedHed> ActionParsnip, Ubuntu 10.04 Server x86
[02:02] <LedHed> is it capped at 8 cores?
[02:02] <notverygoodatthi> yes. and unallocated space. the sizes don't match the setup according to Windows, though
[02:03] <urlin2u> notverygoodatthi, actual partitons don't count the unallocated as one.
[02:03] <escott> LedHed, what does cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep processor show
[02:03] <ActionParsnip> LedHed: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/maximum-memory-and-cpu-limitations-for-linux-server.html   seems it does, my bad
[02:04] <Raziekiel> gayle, that command finally gave me "cat: write error: No space left on device"
[02:04] <urlin2u> nothingspecial, you see a boot parttion at the begining not showing in widows?
[02:04] <notverygoodatthi> it seems to be added to another partition, but it says there is one mb of unallocated
[02:04] <LedHed> escott, it shows processor: 0 - 8
[02:04] <connex> How can I reinstall mysql-server package so it will create all it's /etc/mysql files?
[02:05] <cappy> I need to get my sound card working, I can't seem to find the problem the driver is showing up as via82xx modem, I'm using the latest Xubuntu.
[02:05] <notverygoodatthi> one sec, that's weird... the main partition (200gb) is labeled recovery, which it is not
[02:05] <Flannel> connex: purge mysql-common and mysql-server-5.1 (or whatever version you're using), then reinstall.
[02:05] <Flannel> connex: If you're not sure, `dpkg -S /etc/mysql` will give you the packages you need to purge/reinstall
[02:05] <notverygoodatthi> I'm gonna go back to windows, one sec
[02:05] <urlin2u> notverygoodatthi, to be honest you might consider getting the live ubuntu studio cd, you would want this for a tool and installs much easier in many ways.
[02:07] <notverygoodatthi> if this takes much longer I'll go for that, I'm trying to avoid downloading another iso though, takes forever
[02:07] <LynxSpark124> what iso?
[02:07] <urlin2u> notverygoodatthi, this is the link from the list of live cd available if needed.  http://ubuntustudio.org/
[02:08] <ghostxx> urlin2u, its a encore electronics wireless n300 pci adapter . When i did that command I'm unable to find any related to wiress pci
[02:08] <connex> Flannel, Thank you.
[02:08] <julie101010> LedHed, which opteron model do you have?
[02:09] <notverygoodatthi> the ubuntu iso, is there a way to download just the live CD part rather than the whole deal?
[02:09] <notverygoodatthi> given that I have the non live CD iso
[02:09] <urlin2u> ghostxx, with a quick web look I see refrence to b43, but it not working well or at all, not much info at all on the web actually.
[02:09] <LedHed> julie101010, 6168
[02:09] <LedHed> 12 cores each
[02:09] <ActionParsnip> notverygoodatthi: if you just want a live OS then puppy is a good cal
[02:09] <urlin2u> ghostxx, you will need someone better in that area then myself.
[02:10] <urlin2u> than*
[02:10] <ActionParsnip> notverygoodatthi: depends what you want to do
[02:10] <notverygoodatthi> not just looking for a live OS though, I want to dual boot studio with win7
[02:11] <ActionParsnip> notverygoodatthi: could resize the Win7 partition in Windows then install ubuntu minimal. Then install the ubuntu studio metapackage
[02:11] <urlin2u> ActionParsnip, appears to have 4 primaries at this time.
[02:12] <urlin2u> not sure that is the effort of confirmation here. ActionParsnip
[02:12] <etfb> Is there a better program to archive files than the awful one built in to Ubuntu?  Right click a folder, select Compress, type in a name, tell it to begin... and ten minutes later it tells me "an error occurred" but gives no hint even about what archive file  it was producing, let alone what file caused the error.
[02:13] <notverygoodatthi> I might go for installing the studio package after the main system, if this doesn't work out, I wanna try another thing or two
[02:13] <urlin2u> notverygoodatthi, if you have 4 primares and try to add another you will k=make the HD dynamic, which is bad news.
[02:14] <LedHed> I'll recompile the kernel and see if I can add more
[02:15] <ganymede11> I smacked the cd rom unit around a bit.... it seems to be loading the install  :P     just one more spin up is all i need:)
[02:15] <ganymede11> i love playing with old gear
[02:15] <notverygoodatthi> the 4th primary is "hp_tools" and is about 100mb, I don't really know the contents, is there a chance it's not needed?
[02:15] <ganymede11> one truncated mangled install later.....
[02:17] <urlin2u> notverygoodatthi, I think your safe in removing that then make a extended partition then the logicals insude the extended for the ubunru studio
[02:17] <escott> notverygoodatthi, its assorted hp drivers and such. probably not needed
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> notverygoodatthi: i'm make an image of it first, then you can do what you like
[02:18] <urlin2u> +1 on the image notverygoodatthi
[02:19] <notverygoodatthi> one sec, I'm doing a screencap of the contents of the folder to make sure, everything looks pretty unfamiliar such that I wouldn't know if it's essential or useless
[02:20] <LedHed> nope,  makemenuconfig only allows a max of 8 cpu's
[02:20] <notverygoodatthi> snag.gy/hHz4A.jpg
[02:21] <notverygoodatthi> look safe?
[02:22] <urlin2u> notverygoodatthi, http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add   you need to post it here, and show the url, I doubt any of us can give any better answer though
[02:23] <LedHed> I had to enable "Support for big SMP systems with more than 8 CPUs"
[02:23] <julie101010> LedHed, that doesn't mean you can't manually change it in the config files...  just note that I read an article that mentionned that running so many cores actually decreased overall system performance
[02:23] <LedHed> then I was able to set the "Maximum number of CPUs" to 24
[02:23] <Ramir00> sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth
[02:23] <julie101010> good to know
[02:23] <urlin2u> notverygoodatthi, hold on I see the image.'
[02:24] <LedHed> julie101010, can you give me the link to that article?
[02:24] <kyubey> hi. i'm trying to figure out my memory usage. i run top and hit shift-M to sort by things using the most memory
[02:24] <etfb> I'm getting an "Input/output error" when I try to sudo rm a directory on my external hard disk.  How can I fix that?
[02:24] <kyubey> it says i'm using 592 megs, but when i manually add up the top 20 items or so, i only get around 375 megs used
[02:24] <urlin2u> notverygoodatthi, I wold not heitate to remove it myself If I had a clone og=f the main OS and all other partitions
[02:24] <kyubey> anyone know what the missing memory is?
[02:24] <urlin2u> hesitate8
[02:25] <notverygoodatthi> clone?
[02:25] <notverygoodatthi> I'm a little lacking in backup
[02:25] <urlin2u> notverygoodatthi, a image what W7 do you ave
[02:25] <urlin2u> have
[02:25] <julie101010> LedHed, http://www.conceivablytech.com/3166/science-research/current-operating-systems-may-only-make-sense-up-to-48-cores
[02:26] <LedHed> julie101010, thanks
[02:26] <sheesh>  This is offtopic but anyone have any tips on asking someone to homecoming? :P
[02:26] <notverygoodatthi> um... home premium, I think, if that's what you're asking
[02:26] <urlin2u> notverygoodatthi, do you have a external HD or a set if dv's?
[02:26] <urlin2u> dvd;s
[02:26] <IdleOne> sheesh: yeah,  ask in an offt topic channel like #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[02:27] <sheesh> IdleOne: Ah ty
[02:27] <sheesh> But its whateves
[02:27] <notverygoodatthi> closest thing I have is an old 80gig ipod I use for storage (doesn't work out of one ear but the HD is fine)
[02:28] <LedHed> sheesh, say this within speaking distance of the girl you want to ask.  say to a buddy of yours, "Hay man, don't let me foget to puckup those extra large condoms"
[02:28] <sheesh> LedHed: Hahahahaha
[02:28] <sheesh> Nice
[02:28] <etfb> What is the Linux equivalent of MSDOS's chkdsk, for checking and repairing a disk when a directory appears to be corrupted?
[02:28] <LedHed> :)
[02:28] <LedHed> fschk
[02:29] <sheesh> LedHed: That could be taken the wrong way
[02:29] <IdleOne> !ot
[02:29] <LedHed> etfb, oops.  fsck
[02:29] <urlin2u> nothingspecial, your allowed a one time back up of the main OS=C I would do that, you have to ask yourself what would yo do if you didn't have one, chanes are that the grub bootloader will not trigger the recovery that is there, even though it appears to big as you describe.
[02:29] <etfb> LedHed, is that a program, or did you just sneeze?
[02:29] <LedHed> lol
[02:30] <LedHed> thats the chkdsk equivelant in linux
[02:30] <notverygoodatthi> would I need a backup of my entire HD or just the OS? I've never bothered with backing up before because I don't keep anything that valuable on my hard drive, on the other hand, I've never intentionally done something that might result in a crash before
[02:30] <sheesh> Anyone know a laptop manufacturer that gives you the option to purchase without an OS
[02:30] <LedHed> sheesh, it could, but either way (whether she thinks you're into men or not) she'll know you have a big 'D'
[02:31] <urlin2u> notverygoodatthi, not sure look in the back up section in admin and see the options.
[02:31] <sheesh> LedHed: Yea i was kinda going for a more romanticapproach
[02:31] <IdleOne> sheesh LedHed Please take it elsewhere.
[02:31] <urlin2u> notverygoodatthi, you can also make a recovery disc you would need that as well, that would triggervthe recover if needed I believe.
[02:31] <LedHed> IdleOne, sorry
[02:31] <LedHed> didnt mean to offend
[02:32] <etfb> LedHed, cool. It gives me scary warnings when I run it. Is it safe to use if I unmount the disk and run using sudo?  Won't erase my disk as a precautionary measure or something?
[02:32] <sheesh> Led hed isnt in offtopic soooooo
[02:32] <urlin2u> notverygoodatthi, the recovery disc is only about 100mb
[02:32] <LedHed> etfb, you dont run it on a mounted filesystem
[02:33] <notverygoodatthi> and that would allow me to get back to my current state if something goes wrong?
[02:34] <urlin2u> notverygoodatthi, the recovery hard to say here we are linux not windows, the recovery disc though is another tool like a live cd, and backups that a educated user has.
[02:35] <urlin2u> notverygoodatthi, these tools will be what allows you to break your system and fix it easily.
[02:36] <LedHed> etfb, if you are wanting to check your root filesystem you need to schedule the fsck for the next reboot
[02:36] <LedHed> you can do this by:  sudo touch /forcefsck
[02:37] <etfb> LedHed, no, it's an external HD, so I'm running it now.  It says there are errors, so we wait and see what's going to happen...
[02:37] <sheesh> "Anyone know a laptop manufacturer that gives you the option to purchase without an OS"
[02:37] <etfb> sheesh, what country?
[02:37] <sheesh> Usa
[02:37] <urlin2u> sheesh, dell does probably others call them to find out.
[02:37] <sheesh> urlin2u: I called dell and its a no
[02:38] <notverygoodatthi> ahh wtf the system repair disc creation gives me a memory error. should rebooting help with that?
[02:38] <etfb> sheesh, OS costs are a tiny part of a total bill. Better to find a brand that actually works with Linux.  From personal history I would start by ruling out Acer and ThinkPad...
[02:38] <urlin2u> sheesh, hmm I saw a user post that they do within the last couple of weeks after talking with them
[02:38] <LedHed> sheesh, order one with linux.  then even if you wanted a different distro you didnt have to pay for M$
[02:39] <sheesh> Ledhed that limits your selection tho
[02:39] <clickwir> just setup my first ubuntu server. setup dnsmasq and squid. Was pretty easy, thanks Ubuntu!
[02:39] <LedHed> agreed
[02:39] <sheesh> etfb: Have any recommendations?
[02:40] <sunice> sheesh I found this http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_slc.asp?CatId=119&name=No%20OS%20Systems
[02:40] <organiks> can i mount iso's in ubuntu
[02:40] <sheesh> sunice: Ill check it out
[02:41] <sunice> sheesh more comprehensive http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/23168/
[02:42] <urlin2u> organiks, for what?
[02:43] <organiks> im tryin to update my hd
[02:44] <organiks> this link: http://seagate.custkb.com/seagate/crm/selfservice/search.jsp?DocId=215451
[02:44] <clickwir> organiks: yes, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountIso
[02:44] <clickwir> might not be useful to actually mount it, but you can.
[02:45] <mihai_> hello there
[02:45] <urlin2u> organiks, you have the non windows bootable, and is the seagate a external?
[02:45] <notverygoodatthi> okay, win7 is not being cooperative (memory error every time I try to make a system repair disc). is there another way to do that? (burn an iso or something)
[02:46] <mihai_> i've got a problem with the time indicator, it doesn't show the time, instead it says "Time" :)
[02:47] <urlin2u> notverygoodatthi, you may need to run a chkdsk, the #windows channel may be more helpful there, the good thing is if you get the recovery ISO you can load it to a thumb that will boot in the ubuntu studio setup.
[02:47] <mihai_> that happened after installing the daily build, and then updating packages using update-manager
[02:48] <notverygoodatthi> I found the windows 7 recovery iso, DLing now
[02:48] <urlin2u> mihai_, daily build of what?
[02:48] <mihai_> urlin2u: oneiric
[02:48] <urlin2u> notverygoodatthi, the paid for one?
[02:49] <urlin2u> mihai_, you need to be on #ubuntu+1
[02:49] <mihai_> ok, thanks!
[02:49] <notverygoodatthi> I ran a chkdsk earlier today before I started trying to install ubuntu, is there any likelihood something went wrong in that time?
[02:49] <urlin2u> mihai_, no problem. :D
[02:50] <Ramir00> does not change when I run the isntrucciones plymouth
[02:50] <Ramir00> sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth
[02:50] <urlin2u> notverygoodatthi, hard to say from here really, would you post an image if the W7 partitioner.
[02:51] <Ramir00> sudo update-initramfs -u
[02:51] <notverygoodatthi> the recovery disc iso was free, I'll run the CD to make sure it works before I do anything that could screw things up
[02:51] <urlin2u> notverygoodatthi, you have a link for that download?
[02:52] <Ramir00> how to change plymouth?
[02:53] <notverygoodatthi> gah, trying to copy paste between different computers doesn't work, one sec
[02:54] <organiks> urlin2u: naw seagate internal
[02:54] <notverygoodatthi> actually I am now somewhat suspicious, I kind of just downloaded the first thing I saw
[02:56] <urlin2u> notverygoodatthi, that is why I ask, the only one that was free that I new of now costs, http://neosmart.net/blog/2009/windows-7-system-repair-discs/
[02:56] <urlin2u> cheap though
[02:56] <notverygoodatthi> that's the one
[02:56] <notverygoodatthi> doesn't seem to cost anything
[02:57] <notverygoodatthi> oh, I downloaded it off a different site's link
[02:57] <notverygoodatthi> I assumed it was the same as the first but apparently not, it was a rapidshare
[02:58] <notverygoodatthi> It was supposed to be just a mirror, I think
[02:58] <urlin2u> notverygoodatthi, personally the fact that the computer wont generate one would be a red flag, I wonder if you have not made the HD dynamic.
[02:58] <notverygoodatthi> how would I have done that?
[02:59] <urlin2u> notverygoodatthi, if you had 4 primaries and actual tried to install another this would happen, that is why I wanted to see a image of the W7 disc partitoner.
[02:59] <Giac0m0> hi guys quick question, where can I find the config file for my current gnome theme?
[03:00] <notverygoodatthi> okay, what I tried to do was shrink existing partitions in the linux partitioning tool, I don't think I ever tried to create a new one
[03:00] <notverygoodatthi> but I will get a screencap
[03:01] <urlin2u> notverygoodatthi, so you ran the chkdsk before the shrinking?
[03:01] <MiteshShah> identify <Knowledge>
[03:01] <notverygoodatthi> snag.gy/9Ursl.jpg
[03:01] <notverygoodatthi> yes
[03:02] <notverygoodatthi> is snag.gy okay for screenshots? it's by far the most convenient for uploading but if you prefer I can use imagebin
[03:04] <urlin2u> notverygoodatthi, the link is not working, ok the changing of the partitions usually triggers a auto chkdsk, I would run one again and see if the recovery disc works then, run it from the ms terminal chkdsk /f/r and acept the chkdsk at reboot, it will take awhile but is better than the chkdsk fron the computer area.
[03:05] <notverygoodatthi> okay. ...it says dynamic right under the disc name, shit
[03:05] <notverygoodatthi> is that irreversible/terrible?
[03:06] <urlin2u> notverygoodatthi, how long have you had it the manufacturer will sell you the OEM reinstall discs for probably 30$ americam.
[03:06] <notverygoodatthi> had the laptop for over a year, no warranty or anything left
[03:06] <urlin2u> notverygoodatthi, theoretically reversible, way beyond my help.
[03:06] <Nour_al_imen_> Hi
[03:07] <notverygoodatthi> what's so terrible about the drive being dynamic?
[03:07] <Nour_al_imen_> Can someone help me even to find help please ?
[03:08] <lbh> is an internet connection required to install ubuntu?
[03:08] <tenX> no
[03:09] <urlin2u> notverygoodatthi, here is alink reall now you have a windows problem, so I would work out whether that is true with their channel to be honest.  http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa363785%28v=vs.85%29.aspx
[03:09] <lbh> tenX that's interesting since it keeps asking me to configure my network and i cannot progress in the installation unless i provide network information.
[03:09] <urlin2u> notverygoodatthi, may have been that way to begin with if a different partitioning setup.
[03:09] <cdnjay> @lbh No, but you'll want one for updates.
[03:10] <lbh> kubuntu-11.04-dvd-amd64 btw.
[03:10] <notverygoodatthi> do dynamic drives not support logical drives?
[03:11] <commanderstitch> hi
[03:11] <commanderstitch> i need some help if you guys have any time to help me. it's about the grub
[03:12] <urlin2u> notverygoodatthi, I can't help beyond this I just know standard mbr partitioning, but now you know what you have so we got that far good luck. :D
[03:12] <lbh> i don't see how to progress in the ubuntu command line based menu installer.
[03:12] <lbh> it keeps asking me for networking info.
[03:12] <tenX> lbh: the ubuntu installer? never installed without network support but i feel to remember you could leave it unconfigured. if not you could just supply ambigious info
[03:13] <lbh> maybe
[03:13] <StrangeCharm> is 11.10 expected to be released towards the start or the end of the month? (deciding whether to do a short reinstall now, or just wait two weeks)
[03:14] <notverygoodatthi> okay, thank you. I'll see what I can figure out on my own now
[03:14] <urlin2u> commanderstitch, can yo give details like what the OS' are and what is happening with grub?
[03:14] <commanderstitch> since the linux drive is 2 hours away and that isn't an option, i was hoping someone knows how to boot up the windows drive. is there some commands that can boot up the drive and launch the windows drive from the screen? right now it says grub rescue. i ls'd it and it said (hd0) (hd0,msdos2) and (hd0,msdos1)
[03:15] <commanderstitch> any guidance or help in this area would be greatly appreciated as i know messing with the kernel is deep stuff, or killer stuff! :D
[03:15] <urlin2u> commanderstitch, what is the windows version and do you have a recovery or install disc for it?
[03:15] <commanderstitch> xp
[03:15] <commanderstitch> i don't think i have the disks on me, but i'm not sure. do i have to have them?
[03:16] <urlin2u> commanderstitch, you have the install disc, or a ubuntu disc?
[03:16] <commanderstitch> i don't have the ubuntu disk for sure
[03:16] <commanderstitch> that's 2 hours away, and at that point i would use the other drive anyway. :)
[03:16] <urlin2u> commanderstitch, yo =u ned ethier to reload the mbr to boot it.
[03:16] <StrangeCharm> apparently, 11.10 is expected on october 13: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/05/ubuntu-11-10-release-schedule/
[03:16] <urlin2u> you/need*
[03:16] <commanderstitch> reload the mbr?
[03:17] <commanderstitch> it's not there or i can't just command it to boot? "I command you to boot."
[03:17] <urlin2u> commanderstitch, you can't boot XP right?
[03:17] <commanderstitch> ;0
[03:17] <commanderstitch> right
[03:17] <commanderstitch> it goes to the grub rescue screen
[03:17] <urlin2u> commanderstitch, any other OS's on the HD?
[03:17] <commanderstitch> no
[03:18] <commanderstitch> just xp
[03:18] <commanderstitch> i was using 2 hd
[03:18] <urlin2u> commanderstitch, you need to load the mbr the masterboot record to boot XP.
[03:18] <commanderstitch> how do i doo that?
[03:18] <urlin2u> commanderstitch, or the other HD.
[03:18] <commanderstitch> i wish i had it
[03:18] <urlin2u> commanderstitch, with a XP or ubuntu disc.
[03:19] <commanderstitch> obvioiusly i didn't know this was going to happen :)
[03:19] <commanderstitch> like a windows recovery disk?
[03:19] <urlin2u> commanderstitch, many don't, get a ethier and you will be set the ubuntu disc can load LIOL a linux bootloader that will work.
[03:19] <commanderstitch> the one that you make and it makes like 3 disks?
[03:20] <urlin2u> lilo*
[03:20] <urlin2u> commanderstitch, not sure what you mean 3 discs that sounds like a backup set.
[03:20] <commanderstitch> urlin2u it probably is
[03:21] <urlin2u> commanderstitch, down load a ubuntu disc I can give you the commands
[03:21] <urlin2u> a live cd
[03:21] <commanderstitch> i didn't even think of that
[03:21] <commanderstitch> lol
[03:22] <commanderstitch> where do i find the proper ubuntu disc so that (download) it will match the problem. that sounds like a wide statement
[03:22] <urlin2u> commanderstitch, actually a linux live cd, and a ubuntu disc is one of the better tools for a windows setup in several ways.
[03:23] <commanderstitch> a linux live cd. hmmm. ok
[03:24] <urlin2u> commanderstitch, the latest release will work, no specific version really is needed.
[03:24] <urlin2u> http://www.ubuntu.com/
[03:24] <urlin2u> commanderstitch, a eay fix with the disc.
[03:24] <urlin2u> easy*
[03:24] <commanderstitch> so, i download ubuntu to a disk?
[03:25] <commanderstitch> that will fix it?
[03:25] <commanderstitch> just using the disk to launch
[03:25] <urlin2u> commanderstitch, you get the ISO which can be burned to a cd ot loaded to a usb/thumb
[03:25] <misaq> helllo
[03:25] <urlin2u> or*
[03:25] <misaq> how can I share the entire drive in ubuntu?
[03:26] <commanderstitch> urlin2u when you download ubuntu, is there an option to do it as an iso?
[03:26] <urlin2u> commanderstitch, that is the option.
[03:27] <misaq> can I share the entire partition in Ubuntu like that of Windows?
[03:27] <urlin2u> ! details | misaq
[03:27] <notverygoodatthi> just an update, I'm thinking that chkdsk never happened, I scheduled one but never saw it happen and didn't really know what to expect. doing a legit one now, may help
[03:27] <commanderstitch> ok
[03:27] <ActionParsnip> misaq: not wise to share everything but it is possible
[03:27] <commanderstitch> thank you :)
[03:27] <cdnjay> commanderstitch If you go here there are directions for downloading and burning the ISO to disk: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[03:28] <misaq> I have two computers together. I want to have access to both computers' files from the other
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> misaq: but I doubt very much you will need anything more than the content of home
[03:29] <Braber01> am I useing mplayer in the right way with the following line?
[03:29] <urlin2u> commanderstitch, no problem you wil need to run some specific commands from the terminal of the booted live cd, g=do you want that info or you will be back within the next 4 hours or so?
[03:29] <misaq> ActionParsnip: yes I want to access all drives. and I thought sharing is a good option. isn't it?
[03:30] <ghostxx> how to check if my wireless is working in ubuntu server?
[03:30] <Braber01> "at 5:30 \n mplayer cue://home/$USER/Music/Various/Metal_for_the_Masses/$Track ?
[03:31] <cdnjay> ghostxx Working in what sense? To check if it's connected to the network you can use ifconfig
[03:31] <misaq> now does anyone know how I can share the entire partition. for e.g. I have one partition for music and want to have it shared all the time between two computers
[03:32] <cdnjay> ghostxx If wlan0 has a number next to 'inet addr' then you should be good to go
[03:32] <bullgard4> ghostxx: A good idea is to first analyze the output of iwconfig.
[03:33] <ActionParsnip> misaq: you simply share the mount point with samba, it will be accessible over LAN
[03:33] <ActionParsnip> ghostxx: sudo iwlist scan
[03:33] <ActionParsnip> ghostxx: makes it scan for wireles networks
[03:34] <misaq> ActionParsnip: I don't know how to work with Samba. can you tell me pls?
[03:34] <ghostxx> cdnjay if i don't see wlaan0 means i haven't install correct driver
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> misaq: nobody is born knowing, there are a tonne of samba guides online
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> !samba | misaq
[03:35] <bullgard4> UpdateManager showed an entry "Distribution upgrades" and an associated checkbox, along with the names of several packages that it proposed to upgrade. What does this entry "Distribution upgrades" mean?
[03:35] <cdnjay> ghostxx That's possible, which devices are shown currently? Just 'eth0'?
[03:35] <misaq> ActionParsnip: you're right. thanks anyway.
[03:35] <xangua> !upgrade | bullgard
[03:35] <xangua> bullgard4:
[03:37] <bullgard4> xangua: Are you drunk? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes does not even mention UpgradeManager.
[03:38] <xangua> ...
[03:39] <bullgard4> xangua: Also, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/upgrade does not answer the question which I have put.
[03:41] <Pilotgeek> lol
[03:42] <commanderstitch> urlin2u i will see.
[03:43] <qin> bullgard4: I think it is equivalent to: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> +1 for qin imho
[03:43] <urlin2u> commanderstitch, okay. :D
[03:43] <qin> ActionParsnip: cheers
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> qin: word
[03:44] <urlin2u> bullgard4, is this your lucid install?
[03:45] <bullgard4> urlin2u: No.
[03:46] <urlin2u> bullgard4, well any below Natty the words speak for themselves.
[03:47] <bullgard4> urlin2u: I do not understand what information you are intending to convey to me. For me, these words do not speak for themselves. Can you say it in other words, please.
[03:47] <ghostxx> anyone here a expert in installing wifi card with ndiswrapper or other ways
[03:49] <ActionParsnip> ghostxx: is it an internal device or usb?
[03:49] <ghostxx> internal device
[03:49] <bullgard4> !details | ghostxx
[03:49] <ActionParsnip> ghostxx: ok then run:  sudo lshw -C network    use the product line of the wifi to find guides
[03:49] <david567> sometimes when I close a window both of my monitors go into power save mode and the system becomes unresponsive any ideas what is going on here? how to fix this?
[03:50] <urlin2u> bullgard4, the consensus is that it is a within the distro district upgrade, ra=eal y at this point I would think you would know that at the least the distro it is would help.
[03:50] <urlin2u> really*
[03:51] <ghostxx> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/691248/  and its a ENLWI-NX2
[03:51] <ghostxx> ActionParsnip, i'm trying http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://quemantequilla.blogspot.com/2011/04/instalando-tarjeta-encore-enlwi-nx2-en.html&ei=TwZ0TrSzKOHH0AGzma3LDQ&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=10&ved=0CHoQ7gEwCQ&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dencore%2Benlwi%2Bnx2%2Bubuntu%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1280%26bih%3D919%26prmd%3Dimvnsfd
[03:51] <ghostxx> woops
[03:51] <urlin2u> bullgard4, could be a upgrade to the release above it, we don't knoiw how often you have used the update manager.
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> ghostxx: ok run:  lspci; lsb_release -a      what is output please?
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> ghostxx: its a realtek chip which have native drivers
[03:54] <bullgard4> qin: Yes, this makes sense to me. --  Thank you very much for your help.
[03:54] <ghostxx> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/691250/
[03:54] <ghostxx> ActionParsnip how would i make it work since its a native driver
[03:55] <Tropolis> Is it possible to have more fine-tuned control over font-sizes? I'm able to get the exact font size/hinting/etc I want in a browser via CSS, or with the '-fa pixelsize=..' argument to xterm. But most apps only have a GUI allowing you to select font size, and I need a '10.5' or something in-between.
[03:57] <david567> Does anyone know about a bug that would cause X to crash when  a window is closed for fixes for it?
[03:59] <ActionParsnip> ghostxx: could try:  sudo modprobe rtl8192se; sleep 3; sudo iwlist scan      see if it works ok
[03:59] <bullgard4> urlin2u: I was afraid of just this: "could be a upgrade to the release above it". I did not intend doing that. I did not use the -d switch but rather clicked on the UpdateManager icon when Synaptic had told me that I am using an old LibreOffice package version.  --  <qin> has given an explanation that seems to be reasonable to me. --  Thank you for answering.
[04:00] <ActionParsnip> ghostxx: if that driver doesn't work then run:  sudo modprobe -r rtl8192se; gksudo ndisgtk
[04:02] <urlin2u> bullgard4, no problem, I was suspicious of that possibility, but the words seem to convey a inside the distro upgrade, I never use the update manager, so I'm not up on the wording .
[04:05] <david567> radeon dual monitor support is broken in the Linux kernel?
[04:06] <gebbione> running for me
[04:08] <bullgard4> urlin2u: Thank you for explaining.
[04:12] <commanderstitch> urlin2u you're not going to believe this, but i stuck my "recovery" disk 1 in there and typed in "q" to quit it and it bypassed the grub. lol littearlly chainbooted from the cd and on into windows LOL
[04:13] <greg> hi everyone
[04:13] <ActionParsnip> hi greg
[04:14] <greg> i have a problem - all qt apps have arthefacts : menus are flickering.
[04:14] <greg> i have umplayer, vlc and skype
[04:14] <urlin2u> commanderstitch, cool, windows is supposed to be easily bootable claims the windows geeks, I only know how to load the mbr's really.
[04:14] <greg> and i'm on 11.04 classic desktop
[04:15] <greg> i have no compiz, only metacity compositing enabled
[04:15] <dr_willis> you tried turning that off?
[04:15] <urlin2u> commanderstitch, you might ask in #windows if there is a way to reload the XP bootloader from inside the OS.
[04:16] <david567> removing my second monitor seems to have fixed things :(
[04:16] <greg> dr_willis: yes ( no effects
[04:17] <dr_willis> greg:  as a test. you could try some other alternative window manager/desktop like 'icewm' and see if the things still flicker. that would narrow it  down to not being a gnome related issue at least.
[04:17] <dr_willis> greg:  also have you tried it as a differnt/newly made user?
[04:17] <greg> thx for tips, i'll try openbox
[04:20] <zilly> Has anyone got the AMD E-350 driver working to play back 1080p smoothly?
[04:22] <jhonmayes> alguma mulher nesse local?
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> zilly: you may need an xorg.conf if your display is not running well
[04:24] <zilly> ActionParsnip, do you have the E-350 driver working properly?
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> zilly: no but I was looking at one a while back, then I saw it was ATi and didn't want it
[04:32] <dr_willis> Ati still needs to do a lot to improve their bad rep with linux users.
[04:32] <greg> yayy! problem solved!
[04:33] <dr_willis> greg:  oh?
[04:33] <greg> i made  as you said - tryed opembox and guest session
[04:33] <greg> both worked good with qt
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: i think nvidia have pretty much nailed it due to awesome support over many years, see what wayland does eh
[04:33] <dr_willis> wayland - will be - interesting times.
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> openbox rocks, specially on top of lxde
[04:34] <greg> dr_willis: problem was in some gtkrc-2.0 tweaks, which i made
[04:34] <dr_willis> greg: :)  trouble shooting fundamentals work again. :)
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: true, makes me sad
[04:34] <greg> dr_willis: thank you for help anyway)
[04:34] <dr_willis> I seem to recall like 1 or 2 other attempts to replace X in the years gone by.. :)
[04:35] <rawfodog> I am trying to launch a .exe in wine, but all my exe's won't allow me to use the checkbox EXECUTE. What command line would I use to make this exe executable ?
[04:35] <dr_willis> rawfodog:   you could just do    wine /path/to/the/whatever.exe
[04:35] <dr_willis> rawfodog:  if its on a ntfs/vfat filesystem - you dont just 'chown/chmod' it.
[04:36] <rawfodog> ok
[04:36] <kkrowley> hey does ubuntu 10.04lts support TRIM and ssds?
[04:36] <rawfodog> thank you dr_willis for your help
[04:36] <dr_willis> the whole 'exe needs to be executable' is just a limitation  for that 'safe launcher' app demands.
[04:36] <Dollz> how to kill processes that have a specific name pattern ?
[04:36] <kkrowley> ?
[04:36] <dr_willis> rawfodog:  i always run wine stuff from terminal normally. that way you see error messages and so forth.
[04:37] <rawfodog> lol, and I see a lot right now ;D
[04:38] <spligak> Is it possible to add the debian wheezy packages as a source for apt under ubuntu? How would I go about doing such a thing?
[04:38] <dr_willis> spligak:  mixxing in debian repos can break things badly.
[04:39] <vehemoth> is there any documentation on gtk3 theming?
[04:39] <dr_willis> rawfodog:  if the apps are on a ntfs or vfat filesystem. You can tweak how they get mounted to make EVERY FILE on the fs excutable.. but  i find that even more annoying :)
[04:39] <dr_willis> vehemoth:  i seem to recall the gnome homepage/gnome-3 web sites having info on that topic. I just skimmed them a few weeks back
[04:39] <spligak> granted. my intent is to install mangler and it seems to be available in wheezy and sid, but nowhere else in an apt-understandable format.
[04:40] <vehemoth> dr_willis: thanks I'll take a look
[04:40] <spligak> does ubuntu mirror these testing package environments in some manner?
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> rawfodog: if you dual boot and want to run the installed apps using wine, it won't work unless the app is very portable
[04:40] <dr_willis> spligak:  ubuntu dosent do stuff the same way.  there Might be a PPA for that app. ive never heard of it.
[04:40] <rawfodog> I deleted my dual boot, I was just trying to get age of empires to run. Im gonna try it in a virtual machine
[04:41] <dr_willis> rawfodog:  with most apps - you want to 'reinstall' them in wine. Not just run them from the C:  :)   you did check the wine app database ont hat game also?
[04:41] <dr_willis> !appdb
[04:41] <ActionParsnip> rawfodog: which age of empires?
[04:42] <spligak> It seems to have a presence on launchpad - https://launchpad.net/~mangler , if that helps at all? I'm not familiar with "PPA's" and what they do, exactly.
[04:42] <dr_willis> !ppa | spligak
[04:43] <dr_willis> a ppa is basically a personal repo :)  some contain just 1 app.. some contain several that a person is working on.
[04:43] <dr_willis> some can be very poorly done also. :) so watch out when using ppa's
[04:46] <expiation> how can i watch blurays?
[04:46] <dr_willis> Hmm. wonder if theres a wiki page on that.
[04:46] <dr_willis> !blueray
[04:46] <spligak> excellent. thank you, dr_willis. just found a ppa with it already packaged properly. already have it up and running.
[04:46] <spligak> thanks a bunch.
[04:46] <dr_willis> or the forums or askubuntu.com
[04:47] <dr_willis> spligak:  ppa's are a  top 10 reason to use ubuntu i find. :)
[04:47] <rawfodog> Age 2 ActionParsnip
[04:51] <stephenthemartyr> what is openSUSE knwn for?
[04:51] <expiation> that dumphd program never works for me
[04:53] <ActionParsnip> stephenthemartyr: I'd ask in the suse channel
[04:53] <stephenthemartyr> hmmm nah
[04:53] <stephenthemartyr> ActionParsnip: if you dont know dont answedr
[04:53] <Ben64> does anyone know the program that is similar to `which` but prints all runnable files with that name in any of the paths
[04:53] <stephenthemartyr> answer
[04:54] <ActionParsnip> stephenthemartyr: well it's not Ubuntu related, so is offtopic here so I gave constructive advise.
[04:55] <ActionParsnip> stephenthemartyr: Even if I did, I woulnt say as it's offtopic here which means 'not for discussion'
[04:55] <stephenthemartyr> ActionParsnip: ok,what is the difference between ubuntu 10.4 and opnSUSE
[04:55] <ActionParsnip> stephenthemartyr: ask in #ubuntu+1
[04:55] <ActionParsnip> stephenthemartyr: this channel is for support, people who have apps crashing and need a fix or stuff like that
[04:56] <ActionParsnip> stephenthemartyr: again, wrong channel
[04:56] <Singham> stephenthemartyr : please join #suse
[04:56] <stephenthemartyr> ActionParsnip: hmmm you could just be friendly and help me out
[04:56] <stephenthemartyr> nah
[04:56] <ActionParsnip> stephenthemartyr: i was going to be until you gave the whole'if you dont know dont answedr'  maybe you should listen to your own advice
[04:56] <stephenthemartyr> can ubuntu be installed then ubuntustudio added in synaptic?
[04:57] <stephenthemartyr> ActionParsnip: ok im sorry
[04:57] <stephenthemartyr> can we just drop it
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> stephenthemartyr: yes absolutely, there is a dead handy metapackage to install the ubuntu studio stuffs and you can select it at login
[04:57] <stephenthemartyr> ActionParsnip: thanks dude
[04:57] <stephenthemartyr> and i apologize for bieng rude
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> stephenthemartyr: I believe it also changes the boot splash so you may need to tweak that back if you have customized it or care
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> stephenthemartyr: np man ;)
[04:58] <ActionParsnip> !info ubuntustudio-desktop
[05:03] <xut_jc> does freenode webchat have a https option?
[05:05] <soreau> xut_jc: Try ##freenode
[05:05] <soreau> erm..
[05:05] <soreau> xut_jc: Try #freenode
[05:05] <xut_jc> thanks.
[05:07] <sam__> ok
[05:09] <xut_jc> i'm back, now using https. thanks guys.
[05:12] <jimlestat> hola una pregunta puedo instalar ubuntu en una laptop con pantalla tactil
[05:13] <jimlestat> porfa alguien
[05:14] <ActionParsnip> !es
[05:14] <preyalone> How do I tell my Xbox 360 to boot from an Ubuntu livecd?
[05:15] <soreau> heh
[05:15] <xut_jc> don't think you can.
[05:15] <soreau> preyalone: Hacking your xbox is well beyond the scope of this channel. In short, xbox was not intended to run ubuntu
[05:16] <Guest88185> xbox？
[05:16] <xut_jc> probably can with heavy mods involved.
[05:16] <Guest88185> help
[05:16] <xut_jc> try google.
[05:17] <Ramir00> 2
[05:18] <dr_willis> heh. x box hacking. :)
[05:18] <xut_jc> doesn't look like ubuntu, but may interest you. http://tinyurl.com/yeynedz
[05:19] <Guest88185> what？
[05:19] <Ramir00> hola
[05:21] <kermit> how can i stop ubuntu from messing with my eth0?
[05:21] <ghostxx> Which wireless card work out of the box in ubuntu?
[05:21] <ghostxx> server
[05:21] <xut_jc> define "messing"?
[05:21] <kermit> xut_jc: removing the ip address
[05:21] <fermulator> kermit: define "messing" (you mean the network manager? -- you're trying to configure it manually, and network manager is fiddling with it?)
[05:21] <hoverbear> ghostxx: All that work with normal ubuntu you just need to configure the network
[05:21] <kermit> fermulator: network manager? thanks
[05:22] <sillytones> !wifi | ghostxx you can find a list here
[05:22] <xut_jc> trying to set manual ip?
[05:23] <xut_jc> have you set the ipv4 to manual?
[05:23] <kermit> fermulator: apt-get remove network-manager.. it seemed to want one last blow and took down my network on uninstall.
[05:23] <xut_jc> remove network-manager and it will remove your network. what would you expect otherwise.
[05:25] <fermulator> xut_jc/kermit: one should be able to remove the GUI network-manager, and keep basic configuration (ifconfig)
[05:25] <xut_jc> don't think so actually. i've done the same thing a long time ago and learnt the hard way.
[05:25] <hp> fgf
[05:25] <fermulator> kermit: try re-installing network manager, and in the GUI, (buttom right hand), tell it to "disable networking", then you should be able to manually configure in /etc/network/interfaces
[05:26] <kermit> fermulator: uninstalling it worked, thanks, and was easier than figuring out how to get to 'the gui'
[05:27] <[Relic]> Anyone know who does dev for new mice?
[05:27] <fermulator> kermit: no problem ;-0
[05:28] <triunity> Question, when i create a file like hello.cpp (c++) or hello.py is creates this very cool graphic, but then i edit the file, the graphic is replaced and it shows me the inside of my program,  any idea on how to make my computer use the graphic?
[05:28] <ghostxx> Which wireless card work out of the box in ubuntu??
[05:28] <ghostxx> any recommendation?
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> !hcl
[05:28] <ghostxx> best wireless card for ubuntu server???"
[05:29] <triunity> ohh dude, wireless on servers is no fun....
[05:29] <talntid2> none
[05:29] <talntid2> server shouldn't be on wireless ;)
[05:29] <talntid2> both if you insist, something atheros based.
[05:29] <triunity> expecially with wpa...
[05:29] <ghostxx> its a home server.
[05:30] <ActionParsnip> should be ok, wired will be much better
[05:30] <dr_willis> is there a reason you are using the server edition and not the desktop edition?
[05:30] <ghostxx> if i'm going return this crappy wireless adapter to newegg
[05:30] <dr_willis> for a home network. the desktop ed. can work as a decent file server.
[05:30] <talntid2> if it was me...
[05:30] <ghostxx> well i want it to become a home server and ftp server
[05:30] <talntid2> i'd get a DD-WRT compatible router
[05:31] <talntid2> and do a wireless bridge...
[05:31] <dr_willis> why are you even using FTP at all? :)
[05:31] <talntid2> and connect the server via ethernet
[05:31] <ghostxx> to store back up
[05:31] <ghostxx> not ftp
[05:31] <xut_jc> what is everyones problem with ftp
[05:31] <ghostxx> not sure
[05:31] <triunity> Ghostxx, you should just use the desktop edition, for your "server" You don't need the security the lacking gui provides, and as far as ftp, use sftp (ssh protocall) it works so much better
[05:32] <dr_willis> xut_jc:  its old and has security issues.. and i can find several links that give lots of other reasons its time for it to die.
[05:32] <dr_willis> google for 'ftp must die' :)
[05:32] <danes> how can I tell from terminal if a program is being executed after running it?
[05:32] <dr_willis> or check http://delicious.com/dr_willis
[05:32] <ghostxx> i have install open ssh
[05:32] <ghostxx> works perfectly :)
[05:32] <xut_jc> can be secured quite easily really. lack of knowledge of how to do so is the problem.
[05:32] <dr_willis> danes:  ps command,
[05:32] <ghostxx> and love it
[05:32] <blsh0p> hey guys
[05:32] <blsh0p> i have question
[05:32] <ghostxx> BUt the problem i want it as a home server
[05:32] <blsh0p> how do i edit compiz in ubuntu?
[05:32] <triunity> Ok, with openssh, you have NO need for ftp, as openssh allows for file transer
[05:32] <ghostxx> should i add a wireless card or what?
[05:33] <dr_willis> triunity:  i was just about to type that. :)
[05:33] <triunity> :P
[05:33] <xut_jc> i have ftp running over my networks also ssh.
[05:33] <blsh0p> how do i edit compiz setting in ubuntu 11.04
[05:33] <dr_willis> !ccsm | blsh0p
[05:33] <triunity> ghostxx, any wireless card that works with ubuntu desktop, works with server ed
[05:33] <ghostxx> I want place this crappy desktop out in my near tv screen
[05:34] <ghostxx> so i can watch my Touchwood series
[05:34] <blsh0p> thanks ubottu
[05:34] <triunity> however, you will find that configuring that wireless in ubuntu server ed is quite a pain in the @$$
[05:34] <dr_willis> ghostxx:  for a home server you could just install the desktop edition and use the various gui tools to configure it also. :)
[05:34] <blsh0p> ur the best bot in the whole world
[05:34] <ghostxx> well i'm having a butt load of problems trying isntall this new wireless pci adapter
[05:34] <triunity> agreed Dr Willis, You should really use the home edition as your server, you can install all the tools for a server on the desktop ed
[05:35] <triunity> expecially with wireless in the mix
[05:35] <ghostxx> encore  enlwi-nx2 n300
[05:35] <dr_willis> if you are hooking up the  'server' to a tv in the front room. You may as well use the desktop install and put xbmc or boxee on it and get some extra use from it :)
[05:35] <triunity> BOXEEEEEEEEE :D
[05:36] <ghostxx> I WILL dr_willis
[05:36] <ghostxx> but help me install this wireless card
[05:36] <ghostxx> http://tiny.cc/d3knt
[05:36] <ghostxx> I can't follow it at all
[05:37] <ghostxx> I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong
[05:37] <ghostxx> I even have xubuntu live usb with me
[05:37] <ghostxx> I wasn't able to detect wireless pci adapter with it
[05:37] <triunity> Question, when i create a file like hello.cpp (c++) or hello.py is creates this very cool graphic, but then i edit the file, the graphic is replaced and it shows me the inside of my program, any idea on how to make my computer use the graphic?
[05:38] <dr_willis> triunity:  its a empty file. so its showing the generic icon.  once you add stuff to it. it sees it as a text file so shows it as such.  You could disable the show-previews option in the file manager perhaps.
[05:39] <shankara> hi
[05:39] <dr_willis> i dont see the point in worrying about icons for .c files. :)
[05:39] <triunity> would that be in gconf-editor?
[05:39] <dr_willis> its in the normal file manager settings I think
[05:39] <triunity> dr_willis, its a matter of taste, i like my icons ;)
[05:39] <clickwir> Does Ubuntu work ok with new Advanced Format hard drives?
[05:40] <shankara> I need a help in making cannon LBP2900 work after restart
[05:40] <ServerTechLaptop> Inadyn startup error? Error 'RC_CMD_PARSER_INVALID_OPTION' (0x50)
[05:40] <shankara> can anyone please help
[05:41] <triunity> And when i have 20 "text" files, and some are cpp others are py and others are pl, the icons really would help show which are which.  I know, that's what folders are for, but still
[05:44] <triunity> Ok, i looked, how do i get to that menu option?
[05:45] <dogarrhea2> so.. i tried yG then i tried p
[05:45] <dogarrhea2> and nothing happened.
[05:45] <dogarrhea2> but i somehow read the manual thinking that the expected behavior would happen
[05:45] <dr_willis> not on gnome. so i cant tell you triunity .  I recall  it being in the file manager menu/settings somewhere.
[05:45] <triunity> HAHAHAHHAHA, I got it :D
[05:45] <dogarrhea2> is there something missing from yG and p?  i'm just trying to paste into another file after switching user
[05:46] <triunity> Thanks for the tip!
[05:46] <dr_willis> dogarrhea2:   im not sure anyone in here knows what you mean by 'yg and p'
[05:46] <dogarrhea2> VI
[05:46] <dogarrhea2> yG yank till end of line. p  Paste
[05:47] <dogarrhea2> here's what i do:  vi somefile yG  :q  su otheruser vi newfile p
[05:47] <dr_willis> vi dosent use the system clipboard, You could select, then middle click i belive. OR i think i saw some  mentionof a way to get vi to use system clipbord on a forum post somewhere.
[05:47] <dogarrhea2> oh wow. then yG is useless for my needs. i keep seeing that it copies to "system buffer"
[05:47] <dogarrhea2> but apparently it doesn't do anything useful like that
[05:48] <dogarrhea2> ugh. why can't they just make it easy to use/well documented
[05:48] <dr_willis> vi's buffers are not the same as the gnome clipboard.
[05:48] <dogarrhea2> i don't even know what this "system buffer" is then
[05:48] <dr_willis> vi's own internal buffer i would imagine.
[05:48] <dogarrhea2> according to all this so called "documentation" on the internet.
[05:48] <dogarrhea2> does it go away when you quit?
[05:49] <dr_willis> I would imagine so.
[05:49] <dogarrhea2> well i guess so since it doesn't work when i open a new one
[05:49] <dogarrhea2> can anyone lead me in the right direction?
[05:49] <dr_willis> running vi, then running a 2nd vi as a new user..  and expecting them to share the same buffer would be a little..  insecure also.
[05:49] <dr_willis> dogarrhea2:  this is on the console only? or in X?
[05:49] <dogarrhea2> i'm using putty
[05:49] <dr_willis> that adds another layer of complexity then. :)
[05:50] <dr_willis> you can write a buffer out to some temp file then read it in  to the second vi i imagine. ive never needed to do this sort of song and dance.
[05:51] <dr_willis> or hit up google perhaps for 'vi share buffers'
[05:51] <dogarrhea2> this is the problem:  admin only gave me sudo to switch users and not modify files
[05:51] <dogarrhea2> but i need to get one file to another folder
[05:51] <dogarrhea2> so i'm trying this stupid hack to get the file into the other folder
[05:51] <dogarrhea2> even though i'm installling software for a client
[05:51] <dr_willis> the users cant modify their own files?
[05:51] <nsadmin> how do I install flash on 11.04
[05:51] <dogarrhea2> they can modify their own files.
[05:52] <dogarrhea2> but u can't copy
[05:52] <dr_willis> !flash
[05:52] <dr_willis> they canyt use the 'cp' command?
[05:52] <dogarrhea2> so i'm trying to scrape from VI and then switch the user and paste it as a new user
[05:52] <dogarrhea2> nope.
[05:52] <dogarrhea2> i don't have write access to the folder.
[05:52] <dogarrhea2> in either user.
[05:52] <rypervenche> dogarrhea2: You can do it hold shift while selecting it, and open the new user's session in a new window
[05:52] <dr_willis> im missing where you are going to save the file to...
[05:53] <quiescens> how can vi do it if you can't cp to it?
[05:53] <dr_willis> but i do belive putty hsa some sort of buffer/clipboard feature.
[05:54] <rypervenche> dogarrhea2: and if your vim was compiled correct, a function like that does exist.
[05:54] <dogarrhea2> eh
[05:54] <dogarrhea2> rypervenche, the file is 34590 lines long
[05:54] <dogarrhea2> i will be holding shift for a long long long long time
[05:54] <rypervenche> dogarrhea2: Well it does exist, like I said if vim was compiled with the feature.
[05:55] <dr_willis> I think this is getting beyond ubuntu support. :) sunce it seems to be a very very hacked up ubuntu system
[05:55] <dogarrhea2> blame verizon
[05:55] <dogarrhea2> they are managing the box
[05:57] <quiescens> what are you actually trying to do?
[05:57] <quiescens> rather than, what are you trying to get vi to do
[05:57] <dogarrhea2> i'm trying to cp a file over to another user's folder
[05:57] <dogarrhea2> when i don't have access to actually use cp
[05:57] <quiescens> they blocked just the cp command?
[05:58] <nsadmin> thanks, it's installing now
[05:58] <dogarrhea2> they blocked everything except allowing me to switch users..
[05:58] <dogarrhea2> (not to root)
[05:58] <dogarrhea2> that's all they allowed me to do. sudo su so and so user.
[05:58] <dogarrhea2> not root though
[05:59] <Myrtti> you can sudo cp
[05:59] <Myrtti> ?
[05:59] <dogarrhea2> no.
[05:59] <dogarrhea2> Verizon thinks it's their job to screw me, another 3rd party contractor, so they can teach our primary client that they should let Verizon bill out as many horus as possible
[06:00] <dogarrhea2> because they are needed to provide proper access....
[06:00] <quiescens> neither user can even run cp but they can run vi?
[06:00] <dogarrhea2> what an abuse/neglience of contract
[06:00] <dogarrhea2> u can only cp to folders u own
[06:00] <quiescens> well yes
[06:00] <quiescens> but you have cp, you could cp potentially from elsewhere
[06:00] <eVisetax> I have an acer aspire 5315 and I am trying to connect it to my TV using a monitor cable but when I plug the cable into my laptop and my tv  the tv still displays "No Signal"
[06:00] <eVisetax> any ideas?
[06:01] <quiescens> or upload somewhere and just wget it back
[06:01] <dogarrhea2> wget doesn't work.
[06:01] <quiescens> or temporarily use something in /tmp
[06:01] <dogarrhea2> no permissions
[06:02] <dogarrhea2> hmm /tmp might work
[06:02] <dogarrhea2> i see a variety of owners of files there
[06:02] <dogarrhea2> instead of just 1 owner for every file
[06:03] <dr_willis> Hmm.. sudo su - is root...
[06:04] <dogarrhea2> tmp hack doesn't work
[06:04] <kkrowley> haha cp
[06:04] <dogarrhea2> The file access permissions do not allow the specified action.
[06:04] <manny> howdy
[06:04] <quiescens> what did you actually do?
[06:04] <dr_willis> eVisetax:  what  video chipset?
[06:04] <kkrowley> pedo bear approves;)
[06:05] <dogarrhea2> quiescens, i moved it to /tmp then tried to copy it over to the folder.. after switching user
[06:05] <Guest17230> anyone from texas?
[06:05] <quiescens> and checked permissions on the file before switching user of course
[06:06] <dogarrhea2> sudo su - is root but somehow it's not helping me.. i woudl've thought the other user i switch to would have extra privileges
[06:06] <dogarrhea2> it's like the file i'm trying to cp doesn't exist
[06:06] <dogarrhea2> is ''   a double quote or 2 single quotes when it comes to unnamed registers?
[06:07] <dogarrhea2> trying another hack.
[06:07] <ed563654> hi guys, im sorry but im about to give up installing unbutu, been trying for 3 days already and i know im a complete nub but lol im trying as hard as i can
[06:07] <dogarrhea2> ed564654, if it's hardware, it's probably not worth your time to get it working
[06:07] <ed563654> i just want to leave my win7 copy there and install unbutu to learn it
[06:07] <ed563654> no its not hardware actually
[06:07] <dogarrhea2> as is the case for wireless drivers that aren't supported and video cards that aren't supported
[06:07] <dr_willis> ed563654:  you could always run it in virtual box to play with the OS.
[06:07] <ed563654> its jus me trying to get the installation to be recognized in the startup
[06:08] <eVisetax> nevermind figured it out
[06:08] <manny_713> i had the same issues dogarrhea
[06:08] <ed563654> but it takes ages to load
[06:08] <dogarrhea2> manny_713 how did you solve?  scream at vendor? or some technical hack?
[06:08] <dogarrhea2> there is something even more screwed up about this box
[06:08] <dogarrhea2> u can only sudo su in 1 direction.
[06:09] <manny_713> for instence the wireless driver... i went out and bought a new one
[06:09] <dogarrhea2> if u try to sudo back to the original user it ignores u
[06:09] <tenX> manny_713: you bought a new driver?
[06:09] <dogarrhea2> doesn't say anything. but you still see the originaluser@whatever
[06:09] <manny_713> no a new wireless adapter
[06:09] <tenX> manny_713: ;)
[06:09] <quiescens> are you trying to work as root, or two different users both of which are supposed to have admin access?
[06:09] <quiescens> or something?
[06:10] <manny_713> it was a quick 15 dollar fix
[06:10] <dogarrhea2> i'm trying to move/ copy a file from one user's folder to another
[06:10] <tenX> manny_713: yeah there are even cheap chinese vendors with decent wlan hw
[06:10] <dogarrhea2> they said: "you have access to sudo su - someuser and sudo su -anotheruser
[06:10] <dogarrhea2> and that's all i have apparently.
[06:11] <manny_713> yup i cant even pronounce this new brand but it works amazing
[06:11] <quiescens> can i back up a step, and double check, you checked the permissions on your file in /tmp when you tried to copy it into /tmp and then back out on the other user
[06:11] <tenX> manny_713: what is it
[06:11] <dogarrhea2> yea.. linux is awful at supporting desktop hardware
[06:11] <manny_713> does anyone know where i can find like a local chatroom?
[06:11] <quiescens> although, you probably shouldn't use /tmp if its a sensitive file
[06:11] <quiescens> another option is to pre authenticate sudo
[06:12] <dogarrhea2> pre authenticate?
[06:12] <quiescens> and then do something like cat file | sudo sh -c 'cat > newfile'
[06:12] <zHammeRz> sudo is only used to perform root level actions of your current username, if you want to switch user do it without sudo <G>
[06:12] <manny_713> i cant make out the name lol
[06:12] <dogarrhea2> zHammeRz i'm also having problems with that..
[06:12] <edson> .
[06:13] <Random832> zHammeRz: sudo -u
[06:13] <Random832> or sudo su
[06:13] <dr_willis> you got it backwards. - hardware makers are often awful at supporting linux.
[06:13] <dogarrhea2> someuser@somedomain[/]$su another user    Password:  I type the password.  someuser@somedomain[/]$
[06:13] <dogarrhea2> it completely ignores me..
[06:14] <zHammeRz> type whoami
[06:14] <zHammeRz> after you su to another user
[06:14] <dogarrhea2> hmm it says i'm the user i su to
[06:14] <dogarrhea2> why is it still showing the old user
[06:14] <edson> Why does my videos and music automatically pause when I don't use the mouse?
[06:14] <zHammeRz> of course it does
[06:14] <zHammeRz> why not just make another terminal connection as the other user?
[06:15] <edson> Anyone experienced it?
[06:15] <dogarrhea2> zHammeRz how is that going to help?
[06:15] <dogarrhea2> just curious
[06:15] <Todd-L> really can't believe my ubuntu died 3 times after installed....
[06:16] <elky> dogarrhea2, so you can become the users independently, but that's all?
[06:16] <zHammeRz> dogarrhea2, then you won't have to su?
[06:16] <dogarrhea2> zHammeRz i'm trying to copy 1 file into another persons folder
[06:16] <elky> dogarrhea2, copy it to /tmp as the first user, copy it back out as the other user
[06:16] <dogarrhea2> elky, permission denied
[06:16] <dr_willis> if that other person can chmod dirs in their home. they could make one writeable by others.
[06:16] <quiescens> dogarrhea2: when you copied to /tmp, did you check the file permissions?
[06:17] <dr_willis> but this is getting to be a 'my server is way messed up beyone ubuntu standards'
[06:17] <zHammeRz> sudo cp /path/to/file /path/to/destination
[06:17] <dr_willis> If the os even is ubuntu. :)
[06:17] <dogarrhea2> i started as user1 and copied to temp. then i sudo su - to the other user and tried to copy
[06:17]  * quiescens waves hands around
[06:17] <dogarrhea2> and it does not work.
[06:17] <quiescens> fine ignore the question for the 3rd time
[06:17] <zHammeRz> you are confusing sudo and su
[06:18] <dogarrhea2> not really. sudo is just saying "i'm admin" and su is "switch user"
[06:18] <zHammeRz> you don't need root level access to perform a switch user
[06:18] <dogarrhea2> ok i'm gonna ignore that one.
[06:18] <dogarrhea2> but yea the file is only read/write
[06:19] <dogarrhea2> which is why i was trying to vi copy paste it
[06:19] <dogarrhea2> read/write for the user.
[06:19] <rypervenche> dogarrhea2: lol, keep ignoring help and you won't get any after a bit :P
[06:19] <zHammeRz> dogarrhea2, sudo cp /path/to/file /path/to/destination (As your original user)
[06:19] <blsh0p> when does oneiric oselot come out non-beta?
[06:20] <quiescens> probably october
[06:20] <dr_willis> !schedule
[06:21] <dogarrhea2>  user myuser is not allowed to execute
[06:22] <dogarrhea2> this is for trying to execute cp.
[06:22] <dogarrhea2> back to square 1
[06:22] <os1ris> can someone please help. I am trying to run dual monitors on ubuntu. When they are currently in mirror mode which i do not want. When I change it in the pref.  says its outside the limit.. Can anyone help?
[06:22] <dogarrhea2> there has to be some VI hack..
[06:22] <dogarrhea2> god forbid i look at the 34000 line file and manually copy it
[06:22] <dogarrhea2> i can't even paste it without messing up with ^M
[06:23] <dogarrhea2> doing this putty stuff
[06:23]  * dr_willis wonders if theres sshfs for windows.
[06:23] <dr_willis> you could scp it to the windows box. then scp it bgack as the other user. :)
[06:23] <zHammeRz> what version of ubuntu are you running?  If those commands do not work, your system is locked down, or you're typing things incorrectly
[06:23]  * quiescens can think of a couple possibilities
[06:23] <edson> Will Lubuntu be really an official Ubuntu in the next release?
[06:23] <dr_willis> zHammeRz:  now you are getting to the core of the issue :)
[06:24] <dr_willis> edson:  ive heard it will be. but i imagine it depends on   how well finished it is.
[06:24] <zHammeRz> dogarrhea2, mail the file to him
[06:24] <dogarrhea2> i'm betting the system is locked.
[06:25] <dogarrhea2> but there is no way to copy paste from vim?
[06:25] <dr_willis> im wondering if the system even is ubuntu.
[06:25] <zHammeRz> dogarrhea2, type lsb_release -a
[06:26] <zHammeRz> ROFL
[06:26] <quiescens> shrugs
[06:26] <dr_willis> I sort of mentioned that about an hr+ ago. :)
[06:27] <quiescens> they seemed more focused on finding a way to copy and paste from one user, to another user on the same system in vim, than actually trying the suggestions people provided
[06:27] <dr_willis> and i dont really see how  it was covered under 'ubuntu support' :)
[06:27] <zHammeRz> People just don't listen when you suggest stuff..copying a file from one user dir to another user dir when you have sudo access is open and shut.  If it doesn't work it's locked down for a reason
[06:28] <dr_willis> then theres always the scp it here, then scp it there.. method.
[06:28] <quiescens> when we told them to copy to /tmp, they said they couldn't copy it back out of /tmp on the other user, I asked for them to check the file's permissions in /tmp 3 times
[06:28] <zHammeRz> lol quiescens
[06:28] <quiescens> then there is of course what dr_willis just said
[06:28] <quiescens> but they didn't try either option
[06:29] <quiescens> i offered a cat (file) | (sudo or su -c) cat > (file) type option as well
[06:29] <Myrtti> rigtho people, moving on
[06:29] <Myrtti> debriefing at #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:29] <Myrtti> session starts at xx:30 of the current hour
[06:30] <vibhav> how do I add album art to my music in banshee?
[06:31] <histo> vibhav: i think there's a plugin you can enable that will pull album art automatically
[06:32] <vibhav> histo - How do I install it?
[06:32] <zHammeRz> vibhav, are you able to right click on where the album art "should" be and browse too it?  I assume you have it downloaded already or do you want the app to auto-download it?
[06:32] <vibhav> Got it thanks!
[06:32] <vibhav> Thanks zHammeRz  histo
[06:33] <histo> vibhav: banshee should fetch from last.fm i believe
[06:33] <vibhav> histo - how do do that?
[06:34] <histo> vibhav: don't know that's just what I gathered from a quick google search. I don't use banshee
[06:34] <vibhav> histo - Thats fine I am manually doing it
[06:36] <histo> vibhav: http://banshee.fm it says under features that cover art is automatically fetched from multiple sources. Perhaps there is a problem with your tagging that it can't find the appropriate art.
[06:47] <marcpv> hi, how can I install Xubuntu over Ubuntu 11.04?
[06:48] <auronandace> marcpv: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[06:48] <chapcha> hey guys
[06:48] <chapcha> trying to install https from https://www.eff.org/issues/privacy
[06:49] <marcpv> anyone can help me?
[06:49] <chapcha> and it says author not verifyed
[06:49] <chapcha> should i trust the site???
[06:49] <auronandace> !packages | chapcha
[06:50] <urlin2u> marcpv, you want the xubuntu-desktop alongside the others correct
[06:50] <chapcha> hmmok
[06:57] <phelippe> All people on this channel and anyone talk about anything? I do not understand this irc
[06:58] <dr_willis> phelippe:  what? We discuss ubuntu support. thats thefocus of this channel
[06:58] <dr_willis> general chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:58] <jinu_> how to get memory map in linux?
[06:58] <dr_willis> jinu_:  a map for what purpose?
[06:59] <nsadmin> I wanna put a time display on one of my panels..how would I do that?
[06:59] <phelippe> There are anyone alive?
[06:59] <dr_willis> nsadmin:  you mean one of the gnome panels? theres a clock widgit i thoght
[06:59] <dr_willis> phelippe:  yes.  1000+ people in here.
[06:59] <marcpv> urlin2u: yes, please
[06:59] <dr_willis> it IS  3AM in the usa also. :) so its a bit slow.
[07:00] <urlin2u> marcpv, per auronandace sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[07:00] <jinu_> dr_willis:to just study how the mapping is happen?
[07:00] <phelippe> dr_willis: really thanks, because on brazil channel ubuntu's never talk to me. I think need send some doctors there to help all
[07:01] <dr_willis> it pays to know english i guess. :)
[07:01] <marcpv> when I try to install xubuntu-desktop, it say it has to remove ubuntu-desktop
[07:01] <dr_willis> marcpv:  thats not a problem
[07:01] <dr_willis> both are meta-packages that just pull in other packages.
[07:02] <phelippe> Anyone here play any game? mmorpg or fps, rts, any?
[07:02] <marcpv> so I will keep the 2 desktops?
[07:02] <dr_willis> !games
[07:02] <phelippe> !games
[07:02] <dr_willis> marcpv:  you pick what one to use at the Login screen normally
[07:03] <phelippe>  do not wanna information, i wanna know who or how many people play what
[07:03] <marcpv> ok, thanks a lot
[07:03] <marcpv> ;)
[07:03] <dr_willis> phelippe: general chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic this channel is for support questions.
[07:03] <nsadmin> phelippe channel's kinda big for that
[07:04] <dr_willis> with 1000+ people we have to stay focused.
[07:04] <phelippe> dr_willis: okay sorry, i am new here. but i understand what did you talking about. You have reason.
[07:04] <thoidingjam>  /msg NickServ identify <password>
[07:05] <chacatcha> hi again
[07:05] <dr_willis> plus everyone knows that 'nethack' is the ultimate game. :)
[07:05] <chacatcha> sorry how was to install the https again???
[07:05] <chacatcha> i used apt-get install, but it doesnt find the package
[07:05] <dr_willis> chacatcha:  you normally install things using the package manager tools.
[07:05] <dr_willis> installing 'https' makes no sence.. ive never heard of an app called 'https'
[07:05] <chacatcha> synaptic?
[07:06] <dr_willis> whatever package manger tools you like.
[07:06] <dr_willis> synaptic is one :)
[07:06] <dr_willis> !apt
[07:06] <chacatcha> do i need to have activated some universe or multiverse for the https?
[07:07] <dr_willis> !multiverse
[07:07] <dr_willis> You could clarify what you mean by 'https'
[07:07] <chacatcha> https everywhere
[07:07] <thoidingjam> Hello, what was the cmd i am to type in console to find out the unbuntu version?
[07:07] <dr_willis> !version
[07:08] <dr_willis> chacatcha:  thats still not very clear
[07:08] <thoidingjam> ty ubottu
[07:08] <The_BROS> Hello! Is there anybody here who uses Unity interface?
[07:08] <chacatcha> well, im using wireless on a non very friendly enviroment
[07:09] <dr_willis> The_BROS:  a great many people use Unity.
[07:09] <urlin2u> The_BROS, many.
[07:09] <chacatcha> thats why i need to install https everywhere
[07:09] <dr_willis> chacatcha:  if you want your browser to always default to https when it can. that would be a browser plugin i imagine.
[07:09] <chacatcha> yeah, im using firefox
[07:10] <chacatcha> and the plugin is called https everywhere
[07:10] <The_BROS> Is it difficult to get used to it?
[07:10] <thoidingjam> In 9.10 karmic i cannot reinstall chrome anymore. please help. it used to work before. i did factory reset and now fails
[07:10] <thoidingjam> google chrome*
[07:10] <chacatcha> http://www.eff.org/https-everywhere
[07:10] <urlin2u> thoidingjam, you know that karmic is end of realease?
[07:11] <chacatcha> the point is, that firefox said that the author could not be verifyed
[07:11] <dr_willis> chacatcha:  if its a firefox plugin - then download/install it in firefox..
[07:11] <chacatcha> yeah, i know
[07:11] <thoidingjam> uilin2u i dont know anything about it
[07:11] <dr_willis> thats not really a ubuntu issie chacatcha .  the signing of plugins is somtning ff and theff plugin web site handel
[07:11] <urlin2u> chacatcha, that doesn't protect the wireless per-say
[07:12] <dr_willis> if you trust the site.. hit ok.. i guess.. if not.. well.. do without
 till yesterday i was using google chrome, after reinstallation i cant get chrome in my system
[07:12] <urlin2u> thoidingjam, I don'y use chrome or chromium personally, you get the question I asked though
[07:13] <StrangeCharm> chacatcha, that's because the addon isn't distributed through addons.mozilla.org, so the developer (the eff) isn't vetted by mozilla
[07:13] <tittu> hi, I am running windows 7 and i mounted my disc image in a virtual drive. I have an external hard disk connected to my system. when i run the usb-creator.exe , it doesn't show that hardisk in usb devices. can anyone helo me with that please. thanks!
[07:13] <ubuntu_> I have a new computer that I'm trying to install ubuntu 11.10 on along side Windows.  Install works fine but when the computer reboots it goes str8 to windows without the grub menu.  can anyone help?
[07:13] <thoidingjam> no
[07:14] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_: ask in #ubuntu+1 for oneiric until release day please
[07:14] <urlin2u> ubuntu_, go to ubuntu+1 that is the 11.10 channel.
[07:15] <StrangeCharm> chacatcha, once you confirm that you're connecting to the eff via a legit https connection, you can rely on the download. you could also download it and check it against the signature file
[07:15] <urlin2u> thoidingjam, karmic is not supported anymore, although that shouldn't sffect chrome.
[07:15] <urlin2u> effect
[07:15] <chacatcha> StrangeCharm, that is a good idea
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> Karmic was great
[07:16] <thoidingjam> till yestersay it was working, i did os reinstallation and it doesnt support anymore. i was confused.
[07:16] <thoidingjam> anyways thats it  thanks.
[07:16] <chacatcha> or md5 if i can find it
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> !hashes
[07:20] <excelsior> help please, Unity taskbar is glitching on the first three icons. Instead of their titles, I'm getting a glitchy gibberish.
[07:20] <excelsior> help please, Unity taskbar is glitching on the first three icons. Instead of their titles, I'm getting a glitchy gibberish.
[07:21] <dr_willis> I had all sorts of unity garbled image issues on my nvidia system.  but that box is now beta testing 11.10 :() havent seen it there.
[07:21] <dr_willis> excelsior:  try a simple 'unity --restart' ?
[07:23] <excelsior> unity: error: no such option: --restart
[07:24] <excelsior> reset?
[07:24] <Axlin> Try: unity --replace
[07:25] <excelsior> yay, glitchiness is gone
[07:25] <excelsior> dr_willis: thank you very much.
[07:26] <excelsior> I told it to be verbose in the terminal, and it spit out a lot of "failed" lines
[07:27] <dr_willis> I had to do that silly unity --replace so many times.. i decided to just go test the beta. :)
[07:28] <excelsior> what does replace do?
[07:28] <dr_willis> makes it replace the existing widnow manager.. whch is itself.. so that makes it restart basically
[07:29] <excelsior> oh, the man page sez reset.
[07:29] <dr_willis> reset  does a resetof the SETTINGS.
[07:29] <dr_willis>   that may not be what you want. :)
[07:31] <excelsior> ok
[07:31] <excelsior> the wallpaper is pixelated, is that metacity?
[07:32] <dr_willis> i woulent think that would  be a metacity issue
[07:33] <dr_willis> try changeing it perhaps
[07:33] <excelsior> how do I close the terminal without closing unity?
[07:33] <dr_willis> excelsior:  use the exit command perhaps
[07:33] <dr_willis> avoide the close button when using terminal :)
[07:34] <excelsior> ok
[07:34] <excelsior> thanks
[07:35] <dr_willis> ages ago i set compiz to not show the close button on my terminal windows (or was it some other wm) so now i never use close button.
[07:37] <excelsior> now firefox is glitchy
[07:37] <excelsior> can I make it redraw?
[07:38] <Glowball> Moving its window will probably work
[07:38] <agentc> I'm having network issues on a fresh install of ubuntu
[07:39] <agentc> an ip is leased from dhcp but I can't ping out
[07:39] <agentc> wired connection
[07:42] <excelsior> how can I reset gnome to be the desktop?
[07:42] <auronandace> !classic | excelsior
[07:43] <Glowball> excelsior: Relogin into "Ubuntu Classic". Note though that that option will disappear in 11.10.
[07:43] <excelsior> can we make it the default?
[07:43] <auronandace> excelsior: bear in mind though, that from 11.10 onwards gnome2 will not be an option
[07:44] <excelsior> I'm setting this up for someone else, and I don't want to underachieve on my promises...
[07:45] <excelsior> can we make it the default?
[07:45] <ikonia> excelsior: then you shouldn't promise what you don't know how to deliver
[07:46] <excelsior> can we make it the default?
[07:46] <urlin2u> excelsior, if you choose the classic it will default to it
[07:46] <Glowball> excelsior: If I'm correct, it'll default to the last used DE, so yes
[07:47] <excelsior> ok, good, thank you.
[07:47] <Eugenicist> Lame question
[07:47] <Eugenicist> I can't get wifi with an alfa while using it for ad-hoc can I?
[07:47] <ikonia> excelsior: just ask it
[07:47] <ikonia> excelsior: sorry, that was for Eugenicist
[07:47] <ikonia> Eugenicist: an alfa ?
[07:47] <Eugenicist> Alfa wifi card
[07:47] <dr_willis> thats a brand ive never heard of.
[07:47] <dr_willis> what chipset?
[07:47] <ikonia> I have no idea what an alfa is
[07:48] <Eugenicist> It's an excellent wifi card
[07:48] <dr_willis> I have heard that with some chipsets ad-hoc  cant work.
[07:48] <ikonia> all won't
[07:48] <dr_willis> I dont do adhoc enough to even begin to confirm that
[07:48] <excelsior> I've been at a Python conference today. The asking to ask was grating. I wanted to write a "don't ask to ask" directive on the board.
[07:48] <Eugenicist> http://www.amazon.com/Alfa-AWUS036H-802-11b-Wireless-network/dp/B002WCEWU8
[07:49] <Eugenicist> Nice man
[07:49] <dr_willis> Eugenicist:  and what chipset is in it?
[07:49] <Eugenicist> Python is awsome
[07:49] <Eugenicist> awesome*
[07:49] <Eugenicist> I know it supports ad-hoc
[07:50] <Eugenicist> I'm asking if I can use ad-hoc if the internet source is the alfa itself
[07:50] <excelsior> is there a way to log off into GRUB without a complete restart?
[07:50] <Eugenicist> Or do I need another wifi card/ethernet
[07:50] <cheche> 11.10 takes longer to start than 10.04 :-(
[07:50] <ikonia> Eugenicist: it will depend on the card in that situation, mostly no
[07:50] <ikonia> Eugenicist: 999.9999% "no"
[07:51] <smw> how do you control cpu frequency scaling?
[07:51] <auronandace> !11.10 | cheche
[07:52] <excelsior> is there a way to log off into GRUB without a complete restart?
[07:52] <ikonia> excelsior: no, grub is a boot loader
[07:52] <xgt001> hello i have oneiric beta and windows 7 in dual boot, i would like to install lucid along side... any way?
[07:52] <urlin2u> smw, there is a third party app that puts a control in the panel.
[07:52] <ikonia> xgt001: not without a lot of pain thanks to the grub2 config in ubuntu
[07:53] <ikonia> xgt001: the easier way is if your motherboard can select a boot device, putting it on a different disk, that's the sad but honest best way
[07:53] <smw> urlin2u, got any idea what that app is called?
[07:53] <urlin2u> smw, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/indicator-cpufreq-cpu-frequency-indicator-ppa-installation-instructions-included.html
[07:53] <smw> urlin2u, thanks
[07:54] <xgt001> ikonia: hmm...how about wubi inside windows?
[07:54] <urlin2u> smw, no problem/
[07:54] <ikonia> xgt001: for me, that's a total no-go, I don't like it as a technology, that doesn't mean it won't tick your box though
[07:55] <auronandace> xgt001: a vm would be better than wubi
[07:55] <dr_willis> i saw a 'select what os to reboot to' thing for unity the other day on webupd8 blog site
[07:56] <ikonia> dr_willis: they normally just modify the grub config for the next boot
[07:56] <dr_willis> grub also has a saved feature and theres some command that changes that from the cli i recall.
[07:56] <ikonia> dr_willis: a dirty hack and pointless application considering grub is a menu driven system
[07:56] <dr_willis> come up with a better way i guess. :) Grub2 is gettng so  complex its almost its own os.
[07:57] <excelsior> when unity glitches, blocks of pixels seem to be switched around. They're all there, but they're out of order.
[07:57] <dr_willis> but my laptop has 2 hard drives. :) I pick what OS i want via the F12 key.
[07:57] <ikonia> dr_willis: it will get scaled back to a simpler way, such as grub1, but with grub2 technology, it will get there, just needs to mature
[07:57] <bullgard4> '~$ uname -v' obtains the kernel version number. But what command obtains the (daily) build number?
[07:57] <ikonia> dr_willis: it's terrible that the bios is the best boot selector in the modern software of today
[07:58] <ikonia> bullgard4: what daily build number ?
[07:58] <dr_willis> ive seen hardware switches you used to put in drive bays to select what HD to  use. :) old skool.
[07:58] <ikonia> the kernel isn't built daily
[07:58] <xgt001> i want the global menu to show the menu's (file, edit etc) always so that i dont have to hover my mouse on the panel...is there any hack to make it always visible?? gconf?
[08:01] <bullgard4> ikonia: The one that is referred to here<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:01] <dr_willis> xgt001:   seen somt tips/tweaks on it at the webupd8 blog site. but ieve never tried what you want to do.
[08:01] <ikonia> bullgard4: what version of ubuntu are you running ?
[08:05] <gr33n7007h> alfa (chipset 8187) doesn't support ad-hoc mode only managed and monitor.
[08:09] <hansg01> hello
[08:09] <gr33n7007h> hello
[08:09] <hansg01> how to change a primary parition to a logical partion using gparted
[08:09] <hansg01> ?
[08:10] <speedwagon> hi. i just upgraded to 11.04 and it seems that eth0 is not supported anymore which is bad since i need that to go to the internet (lan -> dhcp).
[08:10] <auronandace> hansg01: you don't change it, you'd have to copy it
[08:11] <hansg01> yeah how to copy it?
[08:11] <hansg01> i want to install ubuntu on my hp 1117tx
[08:12] <hansg01> but there are 4 primary partitions already installed
[08:12] <ikonia> hansg01: you can't
[08:12] <ikonia> hansg01: you need to delete partitions, create a logical partition, then create partitions within the logical partitions
[08:13] <auronandace> hansg01: one of those 4 needs to be an extended partition (into which you put logical partitions)
[08:14] <waiguoren> hi, i'm trying to connect to VPN but keep getting time out error with network manager (can connect fine with command line) i was wondering if there is some log i can find which will give me more info ?
[08:14] <hansg01> which one to delete hp_tools ,system or recovery?
[08:15] <hansg01> i knw if system is deleted the windows wudnt be able to boot
[08:16] <urlin2u> hansg01, do you have a backup?
[08:16] <ikonia> hansg01: you can't just delete any partition
[08:16] <ikonia> hansg01: the data you delete needs to be a.) big enough to create partitions to hold the data you want b.) consecutive with the data you want to merge into one partition
[08:22] <dr_willis> make a backup dvd set BEFOR you delte partitions :)
[08:22] <dr_willis> just in case you need to restore your system
[08:26] <gluesniffmonkey> What is the recommended backup program for ubuntu 10.04?
[08:27] <stephen_> i have hp pavilion 64 bit i7core with 8gb ram what "archetecture"type of iso image do i use?
[08:28] <geirha> stephen_: The 64-bit. The 32-bit will work too.
[08:29] <stephen_> right but when it has amd64 and i386,what are those?
[08:30] <geirha> amd64 is the 64-bit, i386 is the 32-bit.
[08:30] <mama58> ciao a tutti
[08:30] <OerHeks> !backup | gluesniffmonkey
[08:30] <mama58> !list
[08:30] <stephen_> geirha: oh ok
[08:31] <geirha> Don't let the amd in amd64 fool you. It works just as fine on intel 64-bit architectures
[08:38] <jeremux> hi
[08:44] <RenaKunisaki> what's with X crashing every time I try to take a screenshot
[08:49] <stephen_> can someone help me figure out to put a iso from my desktop onto a usb flash so i can use it to boot?
[08:49] <psycho_oreos> you use unetbootin
[08:50] <sven^> stephen_: use any burning software
[08:50] <stephen_> no just from the terminal,i did it before but its not working now
[08:50] <RenaKunisaki> burning software for a USB stick?
[08:51] <stephen_> RenaKunisaki: a live usb
[08:51] <sven^> uh, sorry
[08:51] <szal> !liveusb | stephen_
[08:51] <vladimir> eap live-usb it's cool!
[08:52] <rgb247> hi to everyone, anyone can help me to configure warcraft 3 with wine ?
[08:52] <stephen_> szal: huh
[08:52] <RenaKunisaki> I wonder.
[08:52] <RenaKunisaki> !help | #ubuntu
[08:53] <RenaKunisaki> er
[08:53] <RenaKunisaki> !help > #ubuntu
 wants you to know: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[08:53] <vladimir> look here http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
[08:53] <RenaKunisaki> heh
[08:53] <RenaKunisaki> now figure out how to make it join another channel and that could be used to mildly annoy people! :o
[08:54] <stephen_> vladimir: thats for windows
[08:54] <tuxer> use usbcreater in ubuntu
[08:55] <vladimir> oh, sorry. It was link from my link-book
[09:06] <stephen_> so using the usbpendrive thing i hot "make startup disk"and i guess its done,it only takes a few seconds?>
[09:07] <chapcatcha> how do i close open ports?
[09:08] <madalin> hello
[09:08] <madalin> how can i set the dhcp server to lease forever ?
[09:09] <chapcatcha>  you funny
[09:09] <madalin> me?
[09:11] <bullgard4> What is the command-line command to suspend the computer to suspend (to RAM)?
[09:13] <jrib> bullgard4: try pm-suspend
[09:13] <bullgard4> jrib: I will. Thank you.
[09:13] <Luca1> Hi! Just a quick question: I would like to install kde on my Ubuntu desktop, but is it somehow possible to keep some kind of track of which packages are going to be installed so that, in case I don't want it anymore I can rollback precisely? I have some KDE applications already and I would like to keep those during rollback.
[09:14] <madalin> anyone can tell me how i can set the dhcp server to lease permanently based on the mac ?
[09:14] <madalin> Luca1: /var/log/apt/ is for you :)
[09:15] <oooo> any 1 know how to minimize rhythmbox in Gnome3?
[09:15] <Luca1> madalin: thanks! But... will I have to select all the packages manually? I see installing kubuntu-desktop is bringing in hundreds of packages :-)
[09:15] <joepa> I've lost the ability to set my laptop to suspend (or hibernate) on lid close in oneiric
[09:15] <joepa> I see the option in power settings, it's just greyed out
[09:16] <jrib> !oneiric | joepa
[09:16] <oooo> once I click close, the application just quit instead of minize
[09:16] <joepa> I can suspend/hibernate manually by calling pm-* from teh command line
[09:16] <oooo> any one know how to do?
[09:16] <joepa> jrib: ???
[09:16] <joepa> jrib: I'm asking to see if anyone else is experiencing the problem
[09:16] <jinu_> madlin:http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-and-configure-dhcp-server-in-ubuntu-server.html
[09:17] <jrib> joepa: oneiric is still in development.  Support in #ubuntu+1, not here
[09:17] <joepa> I don't see any recent bugs in launchpad along the same lines
[09:17] <joepa> jrib: I didn't know about #ubuntu+1
[09:17] <joepa> jrib: thanks
[09:23] <sveinse> I remember finding a meta package which contains a lot of scripts and utilities for building deb packages, but I don't remember its name. Anyone who do?
[09:28] <FxIII> hi all
[09:29] <sven^> how do I really get rid of that stupid command-not-found?
[09:29] <sven^> i did an apt-get remove but now I only get errors
[09:30] <hansg01> i m using ubuntu 10.10
[09:30] <[Ex0r]> when I install new drivers, does it automatically reconfigure and overwrite the old oens?
[09:30] <[Ex0r]> ones*
[09:30] <hansg01> how to enable wireless in my hp g6 1117tx?
[09:30] <ikonia> sven^: install the commmand that's missing
[09:30] <ikonia> !wireless | hansg01
[09:31] <sven^> ikonia: no, I want to get rid of it. It's quite an useless feature, that's why I removed it
[09:31] <ikonia> sven^: what did you remove ?
[09:31] <Mkaysi> sven^: run "gksudo gedit /etc/bash.bashrc" and comment lines 50-63, I think
[09:32] <sven^> apt-get remove command-not-found ikonia
[09:32] <ikonia> !info command-not-found
[09:32] <ikonia> sven^: dpkg -l | grep command-not-found
[09:32] <sven^> Mkaysi: that's a workaround, yes. But since there are nice ifs around that part of bash.bashrc I would rather have apt really remove the package when I tell it to ;)
[09:33] <Giac0m0> hey guys kernel.org is still down for investigation. Is there a reliable mirror that I can use in the meantime?
[09:33] <[Ex0r]> lol investigation?
[09:33] <ikonia> Giac0m0: just select a different mirror from the software sources tool
[09:33] <sven^> ikonia: uhm, yeah? It shows the package
[09:33] <ikonia> sven^: can you show me the full line please.
[09:34] <sven^> different machine, but I can type it... command-not-found 0.2.43ubuntu1 Suggest installation of packages in interactive bash sessions
[09:34] <sven^> and there is also command-not-found-data
[09:34] <Giac0m0> well i'm looking to download the a file form wireless.kernel.org so i don't think it is in the repositories
[09:35] <ikonia> sven^: please show me on the line from the machine in question, the ouptut of dpkg -l | grep command-not-found
[09:35] <Giac0m0> its a patch for my wireless driver
[09:35] <sven^> ikonia: that's what I typed above
[09:35] <plouffe> Giac0m0, what is kernel.org being investigated for?
[09:35] <sven^> ikonia: " command-not-found                0.2.43ubuntu1                Suggest installation of packages in interactive bash sessions"
[09:36] <ikonia> sven^: thats' the output of dpkg -l | grep command-not-found
[09:36] <Giac0m0> [Ex0r], plouffe their server got compromised a couple of weeks ago
[09:36] <sven^> ikonia: it's a small -L, right?
[09:36] <ikonia> sven^: there are no "i" or "ii" next to it
[09:36] <ikonia> sven^: correct
[09:36] <Giac0m0> kernel.com to by the way
[09:36] <sven^> ikonia: ah, sorry.  I downloaded the official ones from amd.com, but they aren't correct
[09:37] <ikonia> sven^: basically it's removed the package, but because the binaries are in use (probably by your shell) it's not completed the remove
[09:37] <ikonia> sven^: really, and it's still not gone
[09:38] <ikonia> sven^: re-install the package, and then purge it, not remove it
[09:38] <vibhav> [Ex0r], Check whether your AMD/ATI graphics card model series is supported by the fglrx driver.
[09:39] <ikonia> [Ex0r]: use software from the ubuntu repos, not amd.com the ones in the ubuntu repos are validated to work with your ubuntu release.
[09:39] <sven^> ikonia: I think there is an error in the bash.bashrc. In some way the if-statements are not enough to ensure that the package really is installed.
[09:39] <vibhav> [Ex0r], https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#Installation
[09:39] <sven^> wait a minute...
[09:39] <ikonia> sven^: one thing at at a time, lets remove the package properly
[09:40] <[Ex0r]> vibhav- okay, but I am on cli
[09:40] <vibhav> [Ex0r],  uh..
[09:40] <Peter_Bilt> how to add a md drive?
[09:40] <FxIII> is there a way to avoid pppd to ask for wins and ms-dns? my isp is a little buggy....
[09:41] <[Ex0r]> vibhav- I meant for as far as instructions, that page was for installing drivers using a window manager
[09:41] <vibhav> [Ex0r],  Ok
[09:42] <sven^> ikonia: I found the error. apt-get install command-not-found installs "command-not-found" and "command-not-found-data". apt-get remove/purge only removes command-not-found. So a apt-get autoremove fixes the issue
[09:42] <vibhav> [Ex0r], can you enable "Source Code' repository?
[09:42] <ikonia> sven^: excellent
[09:42] <sven^> is that normal?
[09:43] <ikonia> sven^: probably a dependency, so yes
[09:43] <[Ex0r]> vibhav- I already have it enabled
[09:43] <sven^> yeah, but is it normal that dependencies don't get removed? I think I saw apt remove dependencies without autoremove before
[09:43] <ikonia> sven^: that is normal
[09:43] <[Ex0r]> I installed the 10.8 drivers from the amd website, but when i try opening anything GUI related, it tells me that it needs opengl drivers
[09:44] <vibhav> Download the drivers found from the ATI website , save it inside an empty folder
[09:44] <shbk> hello! does anybody know how to find out how many keys has my keyboard? I've tried lshw, hwinfo, lspci , but nothing
[09:44] <vibhav> [Ex0r],  ell me your graphic card model
[09:44] <[Ex0r]> fglrxinfo displays 'Unable to open display (null)'
[09:44] <ikonia> [Ex0r]: do not do that
[09:44] <ikonia> [Ex0r]: use the amd driver from within the ubuntu repositories
[09:44] <[Ex0r]> vibhav- it's an ati radon hd 5450
[09:44] <ikonia> [Ex0r]: they are validated against your ubuntu install, and will work as a compabile module.
[09:45] <[Ex0r]> ikonia- okay, how do I remove these drivers I installed already than ?
[09:45] <ikonia> [Ex0r]: the ones from the external sites may not work with your current versions and are a mess to try to remove
[09:45] <sven^> hmm, I am a bit dissapointed that apt tells me "no longer needed" what should really mean "leads to errors if you do not remove it right now!", ikonia
[09:45] <ikonia> [Ex0r]: there we go....
[09:45] <[Ex0r]> lol
[09:45] <ikonia> [Ex0r]: you've installed from the amd website, and it's a mess to remove
[09:45] <ikonia> sven^: no, leads to errors != no longer needed
[09:45] <ikonia> sven^: does autoremove not pick it up now ?
[09:45] <vibhav> [Ex0r], how did you install them?
[09:45] <[Ex0r]> vibhav- It gave me a .run file
[09:46] <[Ex0r]> I ran it from cli
[09:46] <vibhav> [Ex0r],  what was the output?
[09:46] <[Ex0r]> it said installation successful when it was done
[09:46] <[Ex0r]> so i rebooted machine
[09:46] <sven^> ikonia: yes it does. But still apt just tells me that it is no longer needed which I interprete as "I will do autoremove at some point when I am in the mood" and not as "I have to do it right now" ;)
[09:46] <vibhav> [Ex0r],  then?
[09:47] <ikonia> sven^: so if you do autormeove now, does it remove it for you (sorry if I've missed that in what you've already said)
[09:47] <sven^> ikonia: yes
[09:47] <roasted> where is pidgin's hidden folder stored in 11.04? I can't seem to track it down... I thought it was .purple but I'm not seeing it.
[09:47] <[Ex0r]> vibhav- nothing will load, its telling me an opengl compatible driver needs to be used
[09:47] <MarcWeber> Which network analysis tools can be used to detect source IPs causing unusual high traffic (HTTP) even if its about SYN attacks only?
[09:47] <ikonia> sven^: ok, so that is expected behaviour
[09:47] <vibhav> [Ex0r], So you messed up X
[09:47] <sven^> ikonia: maybe the text about autoremove should be altered ;)
[09:47] <ikonia> MarcWeber: fail2ban with bad-bots plugin can work well
[09:48] <ikonia> sven^: perhaps it's wording could be better
[09:48] <[Ex0r]> its like the new drivers messed with the config, fglrxinfo doesn't display anything, it says 'Unable to open display (null)'
[09:48] <vibhav> [Ex0r], can you boot it into recovery mode using grub?
[09:48] <ikonia> [Ex0r]: I'm not surprised by that
[09:48] <ikonia> vibhav: why does he need to be in recovery mode, he's already at a shell
[09:48] <LarsAgerstrand> Hi! I tried to install suPHP to make it easier to manage joomla websites, now nothing works and I need some much appreciated noob help!:-)
[09:48] <sven^> ikonia: like "the following packages are no longer required and can lead to errors if you do not autoremove them" ;)
[09:48] <[Ex0r]> vibhav- I am at the shell
[09:48] <[Ex0r]> I just cant load up anything x related
[09:48] <sven^> ok, thanks, I am off
[09:49] <vibhav> ikonia,  He could try ubuntu recovery mode
[09:49] <ikonia> vibhav: why ?
[09:49] <ikonia> [Ex0r]: do you have a file /etc/X11/xorg.conf currently ?
[09:49] <vibhav> ikonia he could try FailSafeX mode
[09:49] <[Ex0r]> hold
[09:50] <ikonia> vibhav: that's not going to "fix" anything
[09:50] <[Ex0r]> yes, I do, ikonia
[09:50] <ikonia> [Ex0r]: ok, remove it, or move it to your home directory
[09:50] <ikonia> [Ex0r]: that will put xorg back into an autodetection mode,
[09:50] <ikonia> [Ex0r]: rather than trying to hardcode settings.
[09:50] <[Ex0r]> okay, what if I just rename it?
[09:50] <ikonia> [Ex0r]: move it out of the directory to keep it clean
[09:51] <vibhav> [Ex0r], Move it out
[09:51] <[Ex0r]> k
[09:51] <[Ex0r]> its moved out
[09:51] <ikonia> [Ex0r]: if you reboot now, it should go back to a sane driver such as Vesa, the performance will be poor, but it will give you a platform to take this forward and resolve it
[09:52] <kholerabbi> is 11.10 stable enough to upgrade yet?
[09:52] <ikonia> [Ex0r]: you'll get the desktop back, no acceleration etc, but it will be a working desktop
[09:52] <ikonia> kholerabbi: no - it's not released, so not stable
[09:52] <vibhav> If you've previously installed the ATI binary/proprietary driver (a.k.a Catalyst/fglrx), you need to make sure it's fully purged before trying to use the open-source ati/radeon driver - [Ex0r]
[09:52] <ikonia> kholerabbi: it will be stable enough for an upgrade once it's released.