[02:15] <Ongaku> dark_ninja: well, how come the window doesn´t pop up with my documents then?
[02:15] <aschmack> patrick_, no sorry
[02:15] <patrick_> dam
[02:15] <Ongaku> matttis: i used it with rhythmbox...and via places i mean places in between system and apps
[02:15] <jsoftw> Must.... focus..
[02:15] <fixarg> k1duga1: i don't know hot to follow with this. i'm loose
[02:15] <dark_ninja> well i don't know but you might want to try running nautilus and going to your home directory which is where documents will be
[02:15] <jsoftw> More... boring.. code... to write..
[02:16] <tomd123> is there a utility for dling a website for n-depth?
[02:16] <patrick_> does anyone here have any idea why i cannot connect to my home internet wirelessly???
[02:16] <kelsin> tomd123: wget I thin handles that
[02:16] <Ongaku> dark_ninja: nautilus is running
[02:16] <jsoftw> patrick_: is teh cable plugged in? :D
[02:16] <brandon_> jsoftw: make it unboring
[02:16] <Vadi> tomd123: I remember one in add/remive, let me find it.
[02:16] <dark_ninja> ongaku, but you have no file browser window opening?
[02:16] <patrick_> jsoftw: im trying to connect wirelessly, in my available networks i can see that my home network is available i just cannot connect when i click on it
[02:16] <Ongaku> dark_ninja: exactly
[02:16] <ari_stress> IdleOne: i dont think we can do that
[02:17]  * genii sips a coffee
[02:17] <knoid> evening all.
[02:17] <k1duga1> fixarg: im trying to see if I can find any sol. but im not sure
[02:17] <knoid> having trouble with a xinetd/vnc setup, looking for some assistance
[02:17] <dark_ninja> ok well then try killing nautilus and rerunning it
[02:17] <brandon_> patrick... i had the same prblem
[02:17] <patrick_> brandon: any idea how to fix it?
[02:17] <tomd123> kelsin: wow, wget does do that :shock:
[02:17] <fixarg> k1duga1: thanks
[02:17] <Ongaku> dark_ninja: just kill it in system monitor, then what? type in terminal?
[02:17] <dark_ninja> yeah that'll work
[02:17] <jsoftw> comperr: I dont know.
[02:17] <brandon_> pat: one sec
[02:17] <patrick_> k
[02:17] <Ongaku> dark_ninja: ok...
[02:18] <genii> patrick_: from terminal: sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid <wirelessnetworknamehere>
[02:18] <Vadi> tomd123: WebHTTrack Website Copier
[02:18] <patrick_> genii: will try
[02:18] <Vadi> How can I check if my laptop has the tickless kernel option enabled?
[02:18] <Ongaku> dark_ninja: ya, it worked :) thx mate :)
[02:18] <k1duga1> fixarg: im using Linux for last 2weeks first time in my life
[02:18] <patrick_> BRB ALL
[02:18] <dark_ninja> np
[02:18] <naelr> I am having trouble compiling me a new kernel can anyone give me some help
[02:18] <fixarg> k1duga1: :-D
[02:18] <j3g> i have a box that is restarting almost precisely every hour... anyone know what could cause this?
[02:19] <fixarg> k1duga1: so thanks for your effort
[02:19] <jsoftw> j3g: is it power management related?
[02:19] <naelr> I used this guide
[02:19] <naelr> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[02:19] <kelsin> j3g: i would have a look at the syslog and kernel messages and see if anything is in there
[02:19] <j3g> jsoftw: don't know... it simply reboots... no warnings on the logs
[02:19] <naelr> and here is what happens when I make menuconfig http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46790/
[02:19] <jsoftw> j3g: is it idle?
[02:19] <fixarg> k1duga1: i will check my bios. i came back on a few minutes
[02:19] <brandon_> i think i fixed my wireless connection problem by selecting a different auth type
[02:19] <k1duga1> fixarg: I found out its best to share, I  had same problem but I fixed it
[02:19] <j3g> jsoftw: not really.. but not on high load... it's a quad.. using like 2-5%
[02:19] <brandon_> even though auth was not enabled
[02:20] <k1duga1> I can tell you how I did it
[02:20] <jsoftw> j3g: no I mean is it headless, ie, you are not actually actively on it
[02:20] <patrick_> brandon: one second
[02:20] <jsoftw> physically
[02:20] <kelsin> naelr: any reason you want a custom kernel?
[02:20] <j3g> jsoftw:  yes its headless... take a look that the rebooot times.... http://pastebin.com/m241d35
[02:20] <knoid> having trouble with a xinetd/vnc4server setup; can login OK to vnc4server when it's running solo, but not when it's running under xinetd, can anyone help?
[02:20] <Ongaku> dark_ninja: woah thanks alot lol it was making my CPU go 100%...im so glad im getting rid of this thing lol
[02:20] <jsoftw> j3g: I would investigate power related things, see if its set to power down or whatever
[02:20] <naelr> yes a few reasons
[02:20] <dark_ninja> lol
[02:20] <jsoftw> erm, suspend I mean
[02:20] <patrick_> genii: when i typed that in it said "bash: syntax error near unexpected token 'newline'"
[02:20] <j3g> jsoftw: i changed it's name from venus to sol but it is the same box
[02:20] <Vicfred> http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/6731/gimptj6.png <------------- help~~ pls
[02:21] <Ongaku> dark_ninja: finally lol ill have a real desktop with a dual core proc and gfx lol :P
[02:21] <jsoftw> j3g: yeah look at what I mentioned
[02:21] <michael_> Inspiron 5160 Laptop-- Screen being detected as Plug n Play-- Then getting a RGB Glx Visual erro
[02:21] <jsoftw> j3g: and look in crontabs
[02:21] <j3g> jsoftw: i'll go there tomorrow.. can't check it from here
[02:21] <jsoftw> j3g: adn what not
[02:21] <dark_ninja> :-)
[02:21] <dark_ninja> naelr, looks like you're missing ncurses dev files
[02:21] <kelsin> naelr: ok, well first of all I would that error specifically means that you need the ncurses dev libraries. There is probably a command in order to get all the deps for you, apt-get build-dep linux-kernel or somethin glike that
[02:21] <genii> patrick_: In my case the wap broadcasts name george. So I would do:     sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid george
[02:21] <j3g> jsoftw: only hourly job on crontab was ntpdate to my local ntp server (i commented it out... )
[02:22] <jsoftw> Hmm ok.
[02:22] <patrick_> genii_: i will try again
[02:22] <Ongaku> micheal_: hmmm...try reconfiguring xorg
[02:22] <naelr> sweet... thanks dark_ninja and kelsin.. I will install and see what happens
[02:22] <jsoftw> j3g: what about the rest of cron.
[02:22] <brandon_> what router you got?
[02:22] <NYCThomasB> can anyone here give me a hand with madwifi install on  ubuntu 7.10?
[02:22] <patrick_> brandon: linksys
[02:22] <j3g> jsoftw: nothing hourly..
[02:22] <brandon_> it will prob broadcast that by default
[02:22] <michael_> ongaku_;=: what would i need to change and how?
[02:22] <jsoftw> Weird.
[02:23] <Smegzor> sound problems fixed :D
[02:23] <Ongaku> michael_: type in terminal dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and follow it through
[02:23] <brandon_> anyone ever set up usb headphones on ubuntu
[02:23] <neil_d> I am trying to run a python script that uses gtk.PrintSettings on 6.10 with python version 2.4.3 but it is saying '... has no attribute PrintSettings'  :( how do I fix this ?  it works find under gutsy
[02:23] <naelr> stupid ncurses-dev.. thanks guys that was it
[02:23] <dark_ninja> great
[02:23] <naelr> now I have another question...
[02:23] <Ongaku> michael_: restart and see what happens....i had similar problems on my dell lappy...it fixed the resolution and all that crud lol
[02:23] <xzased> hiya
[02:23] <j3g> jsoftw: stopped cron... let's see what happens next hour
[02:24] <patrick_> genii_: terminal output: "error for wireless request "set ESSID" (8B1A) SET failed on device wlan0 ; no such device."
[02:24] <musashi> i have an older install of ubuntu on a separate drive that was not connected during install of 7.10. is there an easy way to tell grub to update the menu to boot that?
[02:24] <naelr> if I use a different kernel should I need to recompile ndiswrapper?
[02:24] <dark_ninja> naelr, yes
[02:24] <dark_ninja> it's a kernel mod
[02:24] <naelr> crap
[02:24] <naelr> crapper-crap
[02:24] <dark_ninja> well you could try it but most likely yes
[02:25] <naelr> yea it doesn't work with a newer kernel I downloaded.. the ubuntu-zen kernel...
[02:25] <patrick_> genii_: any idea??
[02:25] <kelsin> naelr: debian does have many scripts to compile kernels and kernel mods for you, if you do really need to build a kernel custom, it's probably worth learning
[02:25] <dark_ninja> what kelsin said
[02:25] <Ongaku> does anyone know if you can get Guitar Pro 5 to work in Wine?
[02:25] <kelsin> naelr: do you mean xen? Ubuntu has xen kernels precompiled
[02:25] <naelr> no
[02:25] <xzased> Im trying to setup a mail server using ubuntu. I've read the documentation and everything is set, but my question is if I need ubuntu server -I have installed the desktop edition- or it doesnt really matter
[02:26] <naelr> http://www.mattparnell.com/zen-kernel.html
[02:26] <naelr> zen
[02:26] <kelsin> xzased: does not matter
[02:26] <PiranhaP> Would somebody please help me determine why DejaVu Sans looks so bad (choppy?) in LabVIEW on Ubuntu (LabVIEW is a graphical programming IDE that doesn't use fontconfig)?  DejaVu looks fine elsewhere, and it worked fine in LabVIEW on Gentoo.  I have toyed with various font settings, but it looks choppy at small sizes and unsightly at larger sizes.  I have taken a screenshot of the problem:  http://netvenger.com/tmp/dejavu-labview-problem.png
[02:26] <patrick_> genii_: are you there?
[02:26] <dark_ninja> ongaku, others have reported that it mostly works
[02:26] <xzased> thanks a lot mr. kelsin -we meet again
[02:26] <j3g> jsoftw: do you know a way to turn of all power management features without rebooting?
[02:26] <chuckf> xzased, doesn't matter, but server will be a bit more secure out of the box
[02:26] <Ongaku> dark_ninja: sweet...cos Dguitar doesn´t read .gp5 files...unless there´s one that dodes?
[02:26] <marcioapf> how can anjuta to compile my program? the program uses gtk+ headers.
[02:26] <Ongaku> does*
[02:27] <NYCThomasB> can anyone here give me a hand with madwifi install on  ubuntu 7.10?
[02:27] <dark_ninja> no idea
[02:27] <kelsin> PiranhaP: is that an app running in wine?
[02:27] <xzased> I see. Thanks for the info guys
[02:27] <PiranhaP> kelsin: no, native Linux, compiled against glibc
[02:27] <Ongaku> dark_ninja: ah well...thanks for your help earlier off to play Oblivion :D
[02:27] <Mercurybullet> Sorry to windows bash, but I think this is my new favorite feature - http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;261186
[02:27] <naelr> with my new laptop I can't use but the 2.6.20-14 kernel to boot my laptop.... but the sound doesn't work... if I use http://www.mattparnell.com/zen-kernel.html my sound works but my ndiswrapper doesn't work... I was going to recomplie the new madwifi drivers to try to get it working
[02:27] <Mercurybullet> Computer Randomly Plays Classical Music
[02:28] <Ongaku> LOL gotta love Windows eh lol
[02:28] <kelsin> PiranhaP: do you happen to knwo which widget library it's using? I would check into that, it might need xft support compiled ir or something like that :-(
[02:28] <baron327> hello
[02:28] <patrick_> genii_: are you still there and can you help me?
[02:28] <neil_d> I need to use gtk.PrintSettings etc. on 6,10 with python 2.4.3 can someone help ?
[02:29] <knoid> Mercurybullet: actually it's a BIOS feature, not specific to win
[02:29] <brandon_> lol at win
[02:29] <ouellettesr> hello, does anyone know what drivers I need for ATI Mobility Radeon 7500???
[02:29] <brandon_> its a small small world
[02:29] <Ongaku> mercurybullet: windows would give me the blue screen of death anytime I used the WMP plugin for Windows Live Messenger...haha
[02:29] <dark_ninja> ouellettesr, it depends on what you want to be able to do
[02:29] <marcioapf> how can get anjuta to compile my program? i think it can't build it now because i need to type `pkg-config --cflags --libs gtk+-2.0` in the terminal to compile my programs (gtk+)
[02:29] <PiranhaP> kelsin: Everything in LabVIEW is custom done; it's own widget set.  It's a cross-platform IDE, so they made sure it was consistent.
[02:30] <knoid> having trouble with a xinetd/vnc4server setup; can login OK to vnc4server when it's running solo, but not when it's running under xinetd, can anyone help?
[02:30] <dark_ninja> your options are basically the radeon or fglrx drivers
[02:30] <ouellettesr> dark_ninja well I would like to be able to use compiz
[02:30] <Mercurybullet> knoid: the bois has the song in memory?
[02:30] <kelsin> PiranhaP: then I would double check with them, esp if it works fine on gentoo, about what font library they are using
[02:30] <knoid> Mercurybullet: yep. read the article more closely.
[02:30] <Mercurybullet> Ongaku: well that shows you to use windows programs on a windows machine ;-)
[02:31] <kenshie_himura> Hello World: any one can help to use the old version of compiz (beryl ) in Gutsy ????
[02:31] <knoid> Mercurybullet: "system BIOSes developed by Award/Unicore from 1997 on"
[02:31] <kelsin> kenshie_himura: is there a reason you want to do this?
[02:31] <ouellettesr> dark_ninja: do you know which one of those drivers would be better? And do I have to have xserver-xgl installed?
[02:31] <Ongaku> mercurybullet: lol yeah...im all ubuntu now...but ima have to get windows for my new build...Oblivion is hard to run in Wine...
[02:31] <kelsin> kenshie_himura: instead of using compiz-fusion that's included?
[02:31] <Mercurybullet> knoid: wow, i see that now...i wonder if the song was part of their sales pitch
[02:31] <dark_ninja> right, ouelletttesr you should be able to use the default driver
[02:31] <kenshie_himura> because my card its too old
[02:31] <dark_ninja> have you tried installing enabling desktop effects?
[02:31] <knoid> Mercurybullet: no idea lol. i guess M$ got enough calls about it to make it worth putting on KB
[02:32] <PiranhaP> kelsin: I'm fairly sure it's Xft as I've had to include the libraries in an "embedded" system before.
[02:32] <kenshie_himura> and i can use meny effects of compiz
[02:32] <ouellettesr> dark_ninja: the default driver is ati
[02:32] <dark_ninja> hmm well try changing that to "radeon"
[02:32] <kenshie_himura> i use DRI to my ATI RAGE MOVILITY P/M 4Mb
[02:32] <dark_ninja> that should give you 3d support
[02:32] <Mercurybullet> knoid: I can only imagine what I would do if my computer randomly started playing "Its a small small world"
[02:32] <Ongaku> LOL
[02:32] <kelsin> kenshie_himura: you're graphics card? you can disable and enable the effects in fusion individualy and it's much stabler than beryl. You can install the ccsm to get to those options
[02:32] <kelsin> !ccsm | kenshie_himura
[02:32] <knoid> Mercurybullet: flip out, i should think
[02:33] <ubotu> kenshie_himura: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[02:33] <ouellettesr> dark_ninja yes, Its very choppy and it xserver-xgl eats up my cpu
[02:33] <ouellettesr> ok ill try that
[02:33] <kenshie_himura> I need old version !! not the compiz-fusion nclude (sorry about my englsih, im spanish)
[02:33] <kelsin> PiranhaP: I assume you custom compiled the app, and I assume that there weren't any options to enable aliasing of fonts?
[02:33] <super61> hello i have a Sony laptop and ubuntu gusty wont show on my screen. it sounds like this there but nothing shows up
[02:33] <Ongaku> can´t kenshie get a backported version of compiz? idk how that works really
[02:34] <bazhang_> kenshie_himura: it may not be supported anymore--has been merged with compiz-fusion
[02:34] <kenshie_himura> Not I can't enable
[02:34] <knoid> having trouble with a xinetd/vnc4server setup; can login OK to vnc4server when it's running solo, but not when it's running under xinetd, can anyone help?
[02:35] <kenshie_himura> i know about managed effects , but no to me thx, i need the old version, Help me please!
[02:35] <PiranhaP> kelsin: No, LabVIEW is precompiled, and it produces executables that are compiled against its own run-time engine, none of which have any font options beyond what's in the screenshot.
[02:35] <neil_d> I have a python script running under 7.10 python version 2.5.1.    I need to use gtk.PrintSettings etc. on 6,10 with python 2.4.3 can someone help ?
[02:35] <Ereal1> as anyone notice that ubuntu dosnt load the splash screen in ?
[02:36] <Mercurybullet> Does anyone know of a single page that gives commands/scripts for all of the stuff needed to get extras working in x64 (i.e. Flash, etc)?
[02:36] <kelsin> PiranhaP: if getting the fonts perfect is a important thing then you need to find out what libraries it's using (probably can ldd the binary) and then look at the ubuntu source package and the gentoo ebuilds to find what's different
[02:36] <Mercurybullet> Or is the best way to go, to just use automatix2?
[02:36] <astro76> !automatix | Mercurybullet
[02:36] <ubotu> Mercurybullet: automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[02:36] <Ereal1> my cuzin is have a bit of problems with sound on his amd64ox
[02:36] <astro76> Mercurybullet, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins
[02:37] <dark_ninja> neil_d, you do have pygtk installed on the 6.10 installl, right?
[02:37] <Bruno1> how can i make firefox consume less cpu?
[02:37] <neil_d> dark_ninja, yes it can run the pygtk examples.
[02:37] <dark_ninja> hmm
[02:38] <kenshie_himura> thx for info about automatix2, i dont use !XD
[02:38] <Mercurybullet> astro76: thanks
[02:38] <root_>  /server -m irc.irchighway.net
[02:38] <root_>  /server -m irc.irchighway.net
[02:38] <Ereal1> those that page fix the no sound on ubuntu 64amd no sound bug?
[02:39] <patrick_> can anyone help me to connect to my internet wirelessly??
[02:39] <kenshie_himura> howto install the version backport of beryl?? somebody says after...
[02:39] <knoid> Ereal1: try here? - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/#head-c623443c8c612c18be37feec67a1b62ab8ab060c
[02:40] <patrick_> ALL: AFK
[02:40] <Ereal1> k ill try that
[02:40] <Ereal1> umm
[02:40] <robdig> patrick_: maybe...what's it doing (or not)?
[02:40] <Ereal1> my cuzins amd64box also has no sound at startup? very weird
[02:41] <kelsin> kenshie_himura: backport is not the right word, that normally means install a newer version then nwhat's available. I would look into finding some beryl packages for fiesty/edgy and compiling those on your system (Look into apt-get source --compile), or just downloading the beryl source for their archives
[02:41] <PiranhaP> kelsin: ldd only shows deps for X11 and Xext.  If it's a question of Xft vs fontconfig, I can tell you that it's not fontconfig.  Is it a problem that Ubuntu didn't create fonts.{dir,scale} in /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-dejavu?
[02:41] <knoid> Ereal1: both boxes have the same sound chipset?
[02:41] <patrick_> robdig_: i am running ubuntu 7.1 and have the wireless driver installed, i can view my available networks i just cannot connect to my home network
 can´t kenshie get a backported version of compiz?  HOWTO GET??
[02:41] <kelsin> PiranhaP: I have no idea, very possible, but I couldn't begin to tell you have to do it either
[02:42] <neil_d> dark_ninja, any ideas ?
[02:42] <robdig> patrick_: is it open or is it protected?
[02:42] <luke_> I have a driver running right now that I need to reconfig. I can't "make" the new driver because it says that the driver is already enabled in the kernel. I'm pretty lost right now as to what I need to do, any help would be amazing.
[02:42] <tomd123> #uiuc
[02:42] <dark_ninja> neil_d, looking, but probably not, sorry
[02:42] <bazhang_> kenshie_himura: you are asking for trouble with this in my opinion,best to try compiz-fusion
[02:42] <patrick_> robdig_: it is open, no lock is shown next to it because i left it unprotected when i installed the system ( linksys router)
[02:42] <kelsin> luke_: what do you mean by reconfig?
[02:42] <luke_> i ran make on that driver when i still had some editting to do
[02:43] <PiranhaP> kelsin: that part I can handle, I just didn't know Ubuntu had eliminated the need for the font.* files.  I'll give it a try.  Thanks for all your help.
[02:43] <kelsin> kenshie_himura: there is no easy way to install the old version of beryl. You either have to learn how to deal with source packages, or learn how to compile strait from the beryl source
[02:43] <robdig> patrick_: do you have an ip address?
[02:43] <neil_d> dark_ninja, do you know what package those modules are meant to be in ?
[02:43] <Ereal1> is it just me or is their no more splash screen at startup anymore ?!
[02:43] <patrick_> robdig_: how do i know if i do? sorry im a novice haha
[02:43] <PiranhaP> s/Ubuntu/if Ubuntu/
[02:43] <Ereal1> also load time has increased ?!
[02:43] <patrick_> robdig_: i've connected to the internet on this same computer running xp with no problem
[02:43] <dark_ninja> neil_d pthon-gtk2
[02:43] <Ereal1> seems to be a lot of bug in 7.10
[02:43] <kelsin> PiranhaP: well if it does work then you solved the problem yourself. I would imagine that the program might use bitmap fonts and with the dir and scale files it doesn't do a good job. Ubuntu might not include them since maybe no packages in the base trees neet bitmap fonts anymore, or something close to that :-(
[02:43] <robdig> patrick_: type ifconfig     it will show a lot of output, about your connections
[02:44] <patrick_> robdig_: will do hd on one sec
[02:44] <NYCThomasB> can anyone here give me a hand with madwifi install on  ubuntu 7.10?
[02:44] <knoid> having trouble with a xinetd/vnc4server setup; can login OK to vnc4server when it's running solo, but not when it's running under xinetd, can anyone help?
[02:44] <luke_> kelsin , ya get what I mean? I can't make the new driver because it says the old driver is already enabled in the kernel.
[02:44] <robdig> patrick_: your ip address will be called inet addr, should be on second line for interface
[02:44] <kenshie_himura> Ok if i right i need a repository of beryl (festy) and use apt-get source --compile > its ok??
[02:45] <patrick_> robdig_: i typed in ipconfig into my terminal and it said "bash: command not found:"
[02:45] <neil_d> dark_ninja, python2.4-gtk2 is installed.   maybe I should reinstall it ?
[02:45] <Ereal1> nyctomas  is your wireless is on b g
[02:45] <astro76> patrick_, ifconfig, with an f
[02:45] <robdig> patrick_: use ifconfig, ipconfig is on windows
[02:45] <DIL> ifconfig
[02:45] <Ereal1> linux has no support for wireless N from what I can see
[02:45] <patrick_> robdig_: k thanks just one sec
[02:46] <dark_ninja> neil_d, you can try though that probably won't do anything, however you may want to try looking at the version specific documentation for python and gtk that you're basically porting to
[02:46] <patrick_> robdig_: it worked what am i looking for again?
[02:46] <dark_ninja> some syntax may have changed
[02:46] <NYCThomasB> ereal: what do you mean b g?  i am in first week on linux
[02:46] <robdig> patrick_: on the second line of your wireless interface, should begin with inet addr if you have one...
[02:46] <kelsin> luke_: if you really need to compile a driver that's included in the ubuntu kernel you probably need to custom compile your kernel as well, what driver is this?
[02:46] <naelr> ok here comes another question... I need a configuration option that madwifi says I need but I can't find it in make menuconfig ...
[02:47] <patrick_> robdig_:  okay it says <IP_ADDRESS> and then mask: <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:47] <kenshie_himura> lol
[02:47] <naelr> how does one apply a MM patch to the kernel
[02:47] <NYCThomasB> ereal: 802.11g, sorry
[02:47] <luke_> kelsin , it's a driver for an orinoco classic gold wifi card. it is needed to get monitor mode to run.
[02:47] <robdig> patrick_: that is your loop back interface, probably called lo0 or something. You probably want something that starts with ethX where X is 0 or 1
[02:47] <patrick_> robdig_: what do i do now?
[02:48] <anabelle> Hi, is there a quick way to restart my USB ports?
[02:48] <dark_ninja> anabelle, can you be more specific?
[02:48] <patrick_> robdig_: okay under eth0 my inet addr is <IP_ADDRESS> what should i do??
[02:48] <luke_> kelsin , i just jumped the gun and ran make on the file before i edited the config file so now it gives me the error:  This driver is already enabled in the kernel.
[02:49] <cheeby> hi.  is there a quick way to switch desktops in ubuntu like in kde? e.g., ctrl+f1 (desktop 1), ctrl+2 (desktop 2) and so on?  the 'key bindings' area doesn't seem to suggest so.
[02:49] <anabelle> due to a recent bug, the most annoying EVER
[02:49] <robdig> patrick_: ok. lets find out if that is your wireless adapter. type iwconfig
[02:49] <kenshie_himura> Ok if i right i need a repository of beryl (festy) and use apt-get source --compile > its ok??
[02:49] <kelsin> luke_: if you just ran make and not make install or anything else it shouldn't have done anything you can't reverse with make distclean (if this is a nicely made makefile)
[02:49] <dark_ninja> cheeby, have you tried ctrl-alt left / right
[02:50] <anabelle> if i want to use something trough usb (phone, stick, ipod, even a mouse) it has to be connected before i turn else my pc or else it wont recognize it
[02:50] <patrick_> robdig_: done, what am i looking for?
[02:50] <PiranhaP> anabelle: you might try:  sudo rmmod ehci_hcd; sudo rmmod uhci_hcd; sudo modprobe ehci_hcd; sudo modprobe uhci_hcd
[02:50] <robdig> patrick_: does it have output for eth0 or does it say no wireless extensions?
[02:50] <anabelle> im willing that there is a command that restarts USB ports so i dont have to restart the whole system to connect a mouse
[02:50] <cheeby> dark_ninja, yes.  but I mean to move to a specific desktop/viewport.  say you are on 2 and want to go to five.
[02:50] <patrick_> robdig_: it says no wireless extensions
[02:50] <shrug> cheeby ctrl-alt-left or right
[02:50] <PiranhaP> anabelle: but that sounds like it won't help in your case
[02:50] <dark_ninja> cheeby, my bad
[02:50] <cheeby> in kde I have up to ten active desktops, one for each client.
[02:50] <hashbrowncipher> does anyone know of a utility that shows the users logged into a box at a specific point in time?
[02:50] <anabelle> PiranhaP isn't that malicious command?
[02:51] <anabelle> :(
[02:51] <robdig> patrick_: rats...which interface showed output, eth1?
[02:51] <anabelle> im scared due to recent notices
[02:51] <PiranhaP> anabelle: no, that unloads the USB 1.1 and 2.0 modules, then loads them again
[02:51] <cheeby> dark_ninja, no worries.
[02:51] <patrick_> robdig_: under eth1 it shows IEEE 802.11b/g and a bunch of stuff about my wireless card (broadcom 4306)
[02:51] <PiranhaP> anabelle: you'll probably have to have everything unplugged from the USB to remove the modules though
[02:51] <dark_ninja> anyway, yes there is a way cheeby, are you using compiz?
[02:52] <kelsin> hashbrowncipher: "last" shows when peopled logged in and out
[02:52] <rorro> can anybody help me i am trying to run a ./configure file and it is giving me this error
[02:52] <rorro> loading cache ./config.cache
[02:52] <rorro> checking for gcc... gcc
[02:52] <rorro> checking whether the C compiler (gcc -O3 ) works... no
[02:52] <rorro> configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables.
[02:52] <anabelle> PiranhaP it worked!! :D
[02:52] <robdig> patrick_: ok. on that first line, do you see your ESSID?
[02:52] <kelsin> hashbrowncipher: I would check out it's man page
[02:52] <PiranhaP> anabelle: awesome!
[02:52] <anabelle> THANK YOU!!
[02:52] <patrick_> robdig_: essid:off/any
[02:52] <PiranhaP> anabelle: welcome :)
[02:52] <kelsin> rorro: did you install the build-essential package?
[02:52] <anabelle> i hate that bug..... restart the system to connect a mouse is just stupid :(
[02:52] <hashbrowncipher> kelsin: thanks
[02:52] <anabelle> a no fix yet :(
[02:53] <msm-aruba> hi, where do i go as an ubuntu newbie in need of help with graphics card?
[02:53] <rorro> i think so kelsin i actually installed all single packages that has gcc :D
[02:53] <kelsin> anabelle: what system are you running gutsy? I havn't heard of this bug, does it have to do with your motherboard or something?
[02:53] <luke_> kelsin , no rule to support make clean or make distclean
[02:53] <cheeby> dark_ninja, yes.  compiz here.
[02:53] <patrick_> robdig_: what should i do?
[02:53] <rorro> kelsin: i think so i actually installed all single packages that has gcc :D
[02:53] <axisys> !enlightment
[02:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about enlightment - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:53] <annihilus> hello everyone, I am having trouble installing build-essential, I have googled quite a bit but nothing seems to be helping.  Here's a passtebin with the error im getting, any ideas?
[02:54] <robdig> patrick_: on the next line, does it say something about being unassociated?
[02:54] <annihilus> http://pastebin.com/d6b71ad7b
[02:54] <axisys> !enlightenment
[02:54] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[02:54] <anabelle> kelsin Im running Gutsy in an hp dv6000 laptop
[02:54] <anabelle> is a general issue with kubuntu as i understand
[02:54] <patrick_> robdig_: on the next line it shows mode:managed frequency:2.472 GHz and then access point:invalid
[02:54] <dark_ninja> cheeby, do you have the advanced settings manager? if you do you can just go in to rotate cube (assuming you're using that plugin) and you can set individual hotkeys for each desktop
[02:55] <rorro> i installed every single package that says gcc
[02:55] <knoid> having trouble with a xinetd/vnc4server setup; can login OK to vnc4server when it's running solo, but not when it's running under xinetd, can anyone help?
[02:55] <cheeby> dark_ninja, not sure.  can you give me an apt-get command to check it?
[02:55] <robdig> patrick_: same thing, so you're not connected at all. go to system->administration->network
[02:55]  * cheeby has a screaming six-week old baby on his lap.
[02:56] <astro76> annihilus, try sudo apt-get install -f
[02:56] <kelsin> rorro: do you mean you've managed to install every package with "gcc" in the name, or something else?
[02:56] <PiranhaP> cheeby: congratulations.  Unless you stole it
[02:56] <patrick_> robdig_: okay now what haha
[02:56] <cheeby> haha.  :)
[02:56] <robdig> patrick_: click your wireless connection, then properties button
[02:56] <devigor> HI 2 all
[02:57] <thyrax> anyone got samba working on xubuntu in here?
[02:57] <patrick_> robdig_: done
[02:57] <IamReck1> when you buy SUSE linux from Novell, you just pay for the customer service right?
[02:57] <shrug> ok. this isnt really ubuntu specific, but is it possible to change the image that shows up when you fist turn on your pc?
[02:57] <patrick_> robdig_: now what?
[02:57] <rorro> yes like there is a package call gcc another one call gcc-3.3, gcc 4.1
[02:57] <cheeby> PiranhaP, esta no brasil?
[02:57] <devigor> People!!? Need assisting at MASQUARADING!~!!
[02:57] <rorro> so i installed every single one of them
[02:57] <robdig> patrick_: do you see your wireless network ESSID in the first drop down? if yes, select it
[02:57] <PiranhaP> cheeby: Nope
[02:58] <kelsin> rorro: did you do this with apt-get or aptitude or some other way?
[02:58] <bazhang_> devigor: to what end?
[02:58] <rorro> synaptic package manager
[02:58] <patrick_> robdig_: the enable roaming mode box is checked and all of the drop downs are gray and i cannot click on them
[02:58] <cheeby> mala sorte.
[02:58] <PiranhaP> cheeby: I get that a lot, though.  As I understand it, "Piranha" means something like "Fox" does in the US.  Is that right?
[02:58] <robdig> patrick_: uncheck the roaming box
[02:58] <kelsin> rorro: double check that you installed the build-essential package
[02:58] <devigor> bazhang_ gfrom Internal to External net
[02:58] <patrick_> robdig_: k now what
[02:58] <rorro> ok how can I check that??
[02:58] <LjL> !br | cheeby
[02:58] <ubotu> cheeby: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[02:58] <CovilleR> quick question... How do I get to KDE System Settings?
[02:58] <robdig> patrick_: now see if your network is listed in the first drop down
[02:58] <Ongaku> lol, anyone have any experience with dosbox? I want to mount a folder in it and run and .exe file to play a game
[02:59] <cheeby> it's a fish and the name of a river.
[02:59] <LjL> CovilleR: K / System Settings
[02:59] <bazhang_> Ongaku: sure
[02:59] <kelsin> rorro: in a terminal just type "sudo aptitude install build-essential" or in synaptic search by name for "build-essential" then install it
[02:59] <dark_ninja> cheeby, try apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[02:59] <syazdani> Hi, I've just installed kubuntu 7.10 on my hp dv6000. Has anybody been able to make the display work properly on such a system? I'm running X in 800x600 using vesa drivers right now.
[02:59] <PiranhaP> cheeby: I named myself after the fish.
[02:59] <cheeby> dark_ninja, ty.
[02:59] <Ongaku> bazhang_: how do I do it? I only know how to use it in Windows...the folder is located in the documents folder
[02:59] <devigor> bazhang_ here is the problem: I've maked IPTables MASQUARADE but still my ExtNet can see my INTIP
[02:59] <rorro> I will need the ubuntu installation cd for that right??
[02:59] <cheeby> PiranhaP, cool.  uma mulher piranha is something else.
[03:00] <kelsin> rorro: or internet access
[03:00] <luke_> I installed a driver that I forgot to edit a line in the original config file. When I try to "make" the new driver that is edited correctly I am getting this error: ""This driver is already enabled in the kernel"" How can I disable that driver so I can reinstall this new driver?
[03:00] <cheeby> PiranhaP, you may want to look it up...
[03:00] <cheeby> ;)
[03:00] <bazhang_> Ongaku: they have a pretty simple walkthtough on the site--need a link?
[03:00] <PiranhaP> heh, k
[03:00] <patrick_> robdig_: under configuration i have available:  static ip adress,  automatic configuration (dhcp) and local zeroconf network (IPv4 LL)
[03:00] <Ongaku> bazhang_: yes please :)
[03:00] <rorro> ok i tried to installed but it says that i need to put the ubuntu_7.10 cd
[03:00] <cheeby> dark_ninja, downloading now.
[03:00] <shrug> anyone know have any information on modifying bios splash screen?
[03:01] <kelsin> rorro: have you disabled the cd from the sources list, and only left the internet options?
[03:01] <rorro> and i am at school so how can I do it with the internet do i need a repository address or so??
[03:01] <devigor> So, Do ANYONe knows ow to hide INternal IP?
[03:01] <cheeby> shrug, which boot mgr are you using?
[03:01] <robdig> patrick_: if your router assigns ip addresses (likely), then you want it set to automatic configuration
[03:01] <rorro> no i have not
[03:01] <IR9807> freak
[03:01] <dark_ninja> cheeby, when you finally install it you can either type ccsm into a term or run it normally from a menu
[03:01] <patrick_> robdig_: okay let me try that
[03:01] <IR9807> sex
[03:01] <rorro> let me do it
[03:01] <robdig> patrick_: the box i was speaking of is the top one, the network name (ESSID)
[03:01] <CovilleR> LjL: I can't figure out how to get to that. I've searched it and it shows a bunch of matches in different places but I can't view any of them.. Might they be hidden or something like that?
[03:01] <cheeby> dark_ninja, installed.  trying now...
[03:01] <codekiri> Hi
[03:01] <codekiri> guess what, I'm a newbie
[03:02] <LjL> CovilleR, not sure what you're talking about... it's right there in the K menu. KDE's main menu.
[03:02] <Ongaku> bazhang_: u got that link? lol i want to play TES: Arena :P lol
[03:02] <cheeby> dark_ninja, oh my.  there is a lot here.
[03:02] <msm-aruba> ... sorry to ask, but can anyone tell me where to get graphics card help... im a complete newbie to linux
[03:02] <cheeby> thank  you.
[03:02] <bazhang_> http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?page=Basic+Setup+and+Installation+of+DosBox Ongaku
[03:02] <rorro> ok i did it, it should work now right?
[03:02] <patrick_> robdig_: sorry i was on wired network, im under wireless and im about to look under essid
[03:02] <LjL> codekiri: then perhaps start by asking an ubuntu question rather than randomly mentioning sex
[03:02] <shrug> cheeby grub i believe
[03:02] <Ongaku> bazhang_: thanks hun :)
[03:02] <patrick_> robdig_: okay i have my network selected under my essid now what?
[03:03] <dark_ninja> cheeby, yes, yes there is, but all you need to do is go to the rotate cube plugin, and then go to the actions tab
[03:03] <shrug> cheeby: i have an emachine and i want to change the emachine logo on boot up
[03:03] <codekiri> that wasnt me, it was a stupid friend of mine
[03:03] <bhagman88> Hi, I'm a complete linux newb and I'm currently trying to install Cedega CVSin order to install steam/cs:source/hl2 on my laptop
[03:03] <Ongaku> bazhang_: it´s simple then? lol i always think everything will be complicated with linux :P
[03:03] <codekiri> I must apologize for that
[03:03] <bhagman88> I need some help installing CEdega
[03:03] <cheeby> shrug, yeah you can do that by adding a line in grub.conf.
[03:03] <robdig> patrick_: make sure the configuration has automatic configuration selected
[03:03] <cheeby> usually in /boot/grub
[03:03] <LjL> !cedega > bhagman88    (bhagman88, see the private message from Ubotu)
[03:03] <bhagman88> does anyody think they could help me?
[03:03] <patrick_> robdig_: it does
[03:03] <bhagman88> oo
[03:03] <bhagman88> ok
[03:03] <robdig> patrick_: and say ok
[03:03] <shrug> cheeby ok.. cook ty...
[03:03] <knoid> cheeby: really? i figure you would have to reflash the bios for that
[03:03] <cheeby> in mine it's splashimage ....
[03:03] <bazhang_> Ongaku: very simple--the instructions with the install should be enough
[03:03] <shrug> bhagman88: why you choose cedega
[03:04] <kelsin> bhagman88: If you really want cedega I recommend buying it and asking them. CS Source can run in plain wine, which you can find information about under their appdb
[03:04] <patrick_> robdig_: alright if i log out ill be right back so stay on robdig and thanks so much for the help!
[03:04] <Ongaku> bazhang_: alrighty thks
[03:04] <eyemean> hi, anyone know best audio ripper + convert to mpr for gutsy pls?
[03:04] <cheeby> knoid, depends on what he wants.
[03:04] <robdig> patrick_: ok
[03:04] <kelsin> !appdb | bhagman88
[03:04] <ubotu> bhagman88: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[03:04] <shrug> bhagman88: what game you playing?
[03:04] <eyemean> *mp3
[03:04] <rorro> kelsin is downloading it I'll let you know if it works
[03:04] <bazhang_> Ongaku: and there is a built in help device within the program
[03:04] <rorro> thank for your help
[03:04] <Ongaku> bazhang_: but oh wait...i dont have this game installed yet on windows or anything...
[03:04] <shrug> bhagman88: wine=better than cedega and free!
[03:04] <Ongaku> bazhang_: this link isn´t much help cos i dont have windows lol
[03:04] <cheeby> dark_ninja, is there a text file I can edit instead?
[03:04] <bhagman88> ok!
[03:05] <CovilleR> LjL: I'm trying to follow http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Ubuntu_6.06_on_a_ThinkPad_R60#KDE but I'm stuck after Reboot.. I guess I can't find Laptops and Power..   Worked perfectly before but now when I try to change resolutions and click Apply, it asks if I want to keep the settings... but it doesn't actually change.
[03:05] <bhagman88> I'm not sure whwat
[03:05] <kelsin> bhagman88: I also recommend using the wine packages from the ubuntu repos or the official wine ubuntu packages
[03:05] <bhagman88> "Change to the location where the WineCVS.sh is lying and start it with: $ sh WineCVS.sh " means
[03:05] <kelsin> cheeby: instead of trying to compile your self
[03:05] <Creationist> I haven't changed my xorg settings at all.
[03:05] <shrug> bhagman88: hold one sec
[03:05] <bazhang_> Ongaku: you can install it from the repos, then follow the rest of the walkthrough--you will need to use dos commands--thus the name dosbox :}
[03:05] <kelsin> cheeby: sorry, wrong name
[03:05] <lucian> how do i connect to a wifi/wired network when im booted to command line only?
[03:06] <Ongaku> bazhang_: does the linux filesystem have a letter assignment? that´s all i really need to know
[03:06] <dark_ninja> cheeby, not really... this is all based off of gconf editing the gconf database by hand is... not recommended, did you find the rotate cube plugin?
[03:06] <LjL> CovilleR: not sure, try asking in #kubuntu as well
[03:06] <kelsin> bhagman88: is there a reason you want to compile wine instead of using the version included in ubuntu?
[03:06] <lucian> Ongaku, no
[03:06] <bazhang_> Ongaku: launch it in terminal by typing dosbox
[03:06] <shrug> bhagman88: http://www.winehq.org/site/download
[03:06] <CovilleR> Alright, thanks.
[03:06] <malifiwererich> any ideas for a cluster setup that is operable on 15 machines?
[03:06] <Ongaku> bazhang_: i have it running..all i want to do is mount the folder the .exe is in, run it and install it and play it
[03:06] <knoid> having trouble with a xinetd/vnc4server setup; can login OK to vnc4server when it's running solo, but not when it's running under xinetd, can anyone help?
[03:06] <shrug> bhagman88: there is an ubuntu one there
[03:06] <devigor> no One nows? ;-(
[03:06] <bazhang_> Ongaku: no, but all you need to is mount C and then go to the appropriate game you want to run
[03:06] <devigor> *knows
[03:06] <bhagman88> kelsin: Well I'm following a tutorial online that says to install this, so I'm trying it
[03:07] <Ongaku> bazhang_: ah okies
[03:07] <cheeby> dark_ninja, yeah.  pretty sweet.
[03:07] <bhagman88> shrug: thanks, I'll check it out :)
[03:07] <shrug> bhagman88:http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[03:07] <kelsin> bhagman88: I would recommend ignoring that part of the tutorial and just installing wine via the ubuntu repos or the official wine packages
[03:07] <shrug> that is more specific to your needs
[03:07] <cheeby> I'm pretty impressed with how far gnome, etc., has come along in the past few years.  I've been on kde since about 2003.
[03:07] <tigran> Ongaku: DOS games/
[03:07] <bazhang_> Ongaku: start from step two of the walktrhouthg
[03:07] <shrug> i dont think wine is in the official repos
[03:07] <kelsin> bhagman88: if you look the packages are probably newer then the version used in the tutorial too (most likely)
[03:07] <bazhang_> wow huge typo
[03:07] <lucian> how do i connect to a wifi/wired network when im booted to command line only?
[03:08] <dark_ninja> cheeby, so you've got hotkeys?
[03:08] <cheeby> dark_ninja, yup.
[03:08] <Ongaku> bazhang_: so...mount c then the folder its in?
[03:08] <dark_ninja> sweet
[03:08] <cheeby> ubuntu is pretty sweet.
[03:08] <bazhang_> Ongaku: and be sure to go to abandonia.com for loads more games
[03:08] <tigran> lucian: ifconfig and iwconfig
[03:08] <kelsin> !info wine
[03:08] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.46-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 33097 kB, installed size 103228 kB
[03:08] <knoid> lucian: ifconfig eth0 up
[03:08] <bhagman88> kelsin: ok, I'll try installing wine through the synaptic pack manager
[03:08] <luke_> kelsin any ideas?
[03:08]  * cheeby coming from the gentoo world.
[03:08] <whyameye> if I update my video driver using envy, compiz seems to become disabled because Gutsy doesn't think I have the restricted driver anymore. Anyway to let Gutsy know I have the driver, even though it's not the Gutsy driver?
[03:08] <patrick__> robdig_: are you there?
[03:08] <Ongaku> bazhang_: lol i just want to play Arena hahahaah
[03:08] <bazhang_> Ongaku: yup
[03:08] <robdig> patrick__: yup
[03:08] <cheeby> dark_ninja, not that there is anything wrong with gentoo...
[03:08] <shrug> kelsin: i dont think wine is in the repository
[03:08] <lucian> thnx tigran and knoid ... i'll try those
[03:09] <shrug> kelsin: i may be wrong though
[03:09] <astro76> !envy | whyameye
[03:09] <ubotu> whyameye: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[03:09]  * cheeby can't imagine any comparison with gentoo has ever come up on this channel
[03:09] <dark_ninja> cheeby, :-) not at all, but the compiles got to me after a while
[03:09] <patrick__> robdig_: okay i've done what you said, but now what do i do?
[03:09] <kelsin> luke_: unfortunately no, I have no experience with that driver
[03:09] <cheeby> dark_ninja, compiles?  try piles of broken packages.
[03:09] <bazhang_> cheeby: stick around then :}
[03:09] <DIL> !netstat
[03:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about netstat - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:09] <dark_ninja> lol
[03:09] <patrick__> robdig_: when i click on the little computer icons at the top right of my screen it has no options for wireless internet connection
[03:09] <whyameye> astro76: the version of driver from envy is more current though, no?
[03:09] <NYCThomasB> what is terminal command to change directories?
[03:09] <cheeby> It was either ubuntu or freeBSD.
[03:09] <codekiri> i installed windows, and my grub dissapeared, what should I do?
[03:09] <shrug> cd
[03:09] <Creationist> Okay, I'm really fricken pissed off.  All I did was reboot my computer and now I can't get my resolution to work anymore.  Would installing libx11-dev change my xorg settings?
[03:09] <DIL> !netcat
[03:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about netcat - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:09] <astro76> whyameye, no clue, newest is not always best
[03:10] <patrick__> robdig_: all it says is  manual configuration
[03:10] <dark_ninja> hmm ubuntu mos def
[03:10] <bazhang_> !grub | codekiri
[03:10] <ubotu> codekiri: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:10] <whyameye> astro76: well I'm having problems with the current one, which is why I'm looking around...
[03:10] <luke_> kelsin , besides a make clean or make install. what else is there to do in order to disable to installed driver so i can install the new?
[03:10] <robdig> patrick__: yeah, mine doesn't either...type ifconfig again and see if eth1 has an ip address, if so, then you should be working
[03:10] <kelsin> luke_: I have no idea, sorry
[03:10] <Creationist> I had to disable TwinView in xorg.conf last time to fix this, but I don't remember how to do that.
[03:10] <luke_> kelsin thanks anyways, much appreciated for the effort.
[03:11] <codekiri> ubotu: uh, ok, thanks
[03:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uh, ok, thanks - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:11] <tigran> luke: sudo modprobe -r [driver name]
[03:11] <dark_ninja> luke_ have you done an rmmod?
[03:11] <dark_ninja> that should help
[03:11] <Wutz> hello all, can anyone help me with installing a driver for ati HD 2400 XT? I need a proper guide, or something for it
[03:12] <patrick__> robdig_: a lot of stuff has changed under eth0.. my inet addr is the same but it has stuff about bcast and a lot of other number and information haha
[03:12] <NYCThomasB> thx.  i was leaving out the/.  whay can't i cd from home to user directory?
[03:12] <Wutz> anyone? >.<
[03:12] <robdig> patrick__: that's because you unchecked roaming...how about eth1?
[03:12] <astro76> NYCThomasB, example?
[03:12] <patrick__> robdig_: it has information similar to info on my eth1 (wired) internet, does this mean it will work if i unplug my ethernet cable?
[03:12] <luke_> haven't tried rmmod or have heard of it. will get back to you dark_ninja in a sec.
[03:13] <shrug> cd usages 101:
[03:13] <robdig> patrick__: it should...only one way to find out...
[03:13] <shrug> cd up one dir - cd ../
[03:13] <patrick__> robdig_: be right back haha
[03:13] <luke_> modprobe -r does not work if its in use tigran
[03:13] <tigran> luke: ah
[03:13] <NYCThomasB> astro76: in file browser i see home, then under it thomas directory.  i am at home in terminal and do cd /thomas and am told it doesn't exist
[03:13] <tigran> luke: have you tried blacklisting it
[03:14] <kelsin> luke_: which is a good thing
[03:14] <shrug> cd thomas
[03:14] <shrug> not cd /thomas
[03:14] <astro76> NYCThomasB, are you sure you aren't in /home/thomas already? does it say ~/ ?
[03:14] <dark_ninja> wutz, what version of ubuntu?
[03:14] <astro76> NYCThomasB, type pwd
[03:14] <luke_> kelsin , why a good thing?
[03:14] <billy> is it possible to add a network printer from a windows computers?
[03:15] <astro76> shrug, ah missed that
[03:15] <kelsin> luke_: removing drivers that are in use can lead to bad things
[03:15] <shrug> astro76: yeah.. noob mistake :)
[03:15] <NYCThomasB> astro: thx. i guess below home the / is unneccessary
[03:15] <tigran> yea =/
[03:15] <shrug> NYCT
[03:15] <bhagman88> when I execute the command "wine SteamInstall.exe" the error "wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\SteamInstall.exe": Module not found
[03:15] <bhagman88> " comes up
[03:15] <astro76> NYCThomasB, / is incorrect unless you really mean the root of your filesystem
[03:15] <shrug> yeah
[03:15] <kelsin> bhagman88: you need to be in the directory with SteamInstall.exe
[03:15] <bhagman88> SteamInstall.exe is on my desktop
[03:16] <bhagman88> oh but I am
[03:16] <shrug> nyct cd /home/thomas would have been correct
[03:16] <astro76> NYCThomasB, start using tab completion, type a few letters and press tab
[03:16] <luke_> kelsin , well its for a pcmcia wifi card that just needs monitor mode enabled in a line of code. i have the correctly configd driver right here just waiting to be installed after the original one is disabled
[03:16] <kelsin> bhagman88: then try "wine ~/Desktop/SteamInstall.exe" or "wine ./SteamInstall.exe" from your desktop folder
[03:16] <NYCThomasB> astro: thx. i was starting there for easiest root.  its same as dos i guess and i made it harder.  thx all. :)
[03:16] <shrug> yep
[03:16] <kelsin> luke_: dude, honestly I have no idea what you need to do, I'm sorry
[03:16] <luke_> i may lose net connectivity from this, will be back shortly if so.
[03:17] <tigran> keslin: can't he blacklist it?
[03:17] <patrick_> robdig_: if i unplug my ethernet cable i am no longer connected
[03:17] <Wut1> Hey, can anyone point me to a guide on installing a driver for ati HD 2400 XT?
[03:17] <shrug> bhagman88 - im sure the app database for wine will have a detailed tut for installing steam
[03:17] <bhagman88> sweet mother of jesus kelsin I will now name you all mighty god of the world
[03:17] <bhagman88> as well as you shrug
[03:17] <luke_> tried tigran, but the orinoco and orinoco_cs modules are the only thing i can see that are linked to this server on lsmod list
[03:17] <dark_ninja> wut1, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[03:17] <Wut1> 7.10
[03:17] <astro76> !ati | Wut1
[03:17] <Wut1> i just tried a guide, but
[03:17] <kelsin> bhagman88: then do some reading about the linux command line and you to can start your own church
[03:18] <onats> hi, i'm having a problem with my desktop.. my usb ports just dies after a few minutes....
[03:18] <Wut1> it failed to install
[03:18] <ubotu> Wut1: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:18] <bhagman88> will do
[03:18] <patrick_> robdig_: under my wireless connection properties and then under password type it says "wpa personal" and it has a bo x for a password, what does this mean?
[03:18] <onats> i just upgraded to 7.10, and still the problem persists... anyone have any ideas?
[03:18] <bhagman88> Scientology ain't got nothin Ubuntiau tribe chapter Chi Iota Delta Z
[03:18] <shrug> pici: hi
[03:18] <shrug> pici: i this is brandon... got my dvd player working
[03:19] <robdig> patrick_: :(  what we just walked through is what i had to do to get mine going...the wpa-personal is if your wireless network is protected...it is where you enter the password.
[03:19] <dark_ninja> wut1, have you tried using the restricted drivers control panel?
[03:19] <tigran> luke_: sorry, I'm knew to Ubuntu. That was just my 2 cents
[03:19] <shrug> pici: remember... it wouldnt read certain file types
[03:19] <Pici> shrug: Ah... yes.
[03:19] <Wut1> no
[03:19] <Pici> shrug: What turned out to be the issue?
[03:19] <shrug> pici: automount mounts it udf
[03:19] <patrick_> robdig_: im asking the person who set up my router if there is a password atm hd on one second
[03:19] <shrug> pici: it should have been iso9660
[03:19] <robdig> patrick_: if you need more help, then maybe someone else can help. ubotu also has some links, i'll send you
[03:19] <luke_> thanks anyways tigran
[03:20] <Pici> shrug: Strange.
[03:20] <robdig> !wifi | patrick_
[03:20] <ubotu> patrick_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:20] <ouellettesr> hello, I need help, mentally. lol no really, when I start my laptop, after the grub menu loads the kernel, I see Starting up... then Loading please wait.... and then I see a blank screen until the login screen shows about 5 minutes later.
[03:20] <shrug> pici: mount -t iso9660 "volume" and it works
[03:20] <Wut1> where do i find restricted drivers control panel?
[03:20] <patrick_> robdig_: k thanks ill let you know how things go
[03:20] <dark_ninja> wut1, you might want to try that, run "restricted-manager",
[03:20] <kelsin> Wut1: in the System -> Admin menu
[03:20] <shrug> patick_: hey.... just a quick question
[03:20] <robdig> patrick_: sorry it didn't work out
[03:21] <tigran> What are some good image editing software (other than GIMP) that you would recommend?
[03:21] <shrug> patrick_: why do you use a _ after robdig's name?
[03:21] <Ongaku> ok, dosbox wouldn´t let me execute the file cos it´s an .exe...so...could i just run the .exe in Wine?
[03:21] <onats> !usb
[03:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:21] <patrick_> shrug_: no idea
[03:21] <ouellettesr> does anyone know why I can't see a loading screen?
[03:21] <Wut1> a box comes up saying my hardware doesnt need any restricted drivers?
[03:21] <shrug> patrick_: ok just checking :P
[03:22] <tigran> ouellettesr: its disabled?
[03:22] <tigran> splash is turned off
[03:22] <dark_ninja> wut1 *sigh* yeah theoretically you don't, but if you still want ati's drivers...
[03:22] <luke_> back in a bit
[03:22] <Ongaku> what´s the channel for Wine help?
[03:22] <astro76> Ongaku, #winehq
[03:22] <robdig> Ongaku: #winehq i think
[03:22] <ouellettesr> tigran, im not sure, I just did a default install, and its never been there
[03:22] <Wut1> well i cant use compiz without them, right?
[03:22] <dark_ninja> actually you can
[03:22] <billy> it just wont work as well
[03:22] <Ongaku> ok thxies
[03:23]  * robdig thinks his fingers are getting faster
[03:23] <tigran> ouellettesr: paste your /boot/grub/menu.list
[03:23] <tigran> ouellettesr: menu.lst*
[03:23] <dark_ninja> wut1, i would try compiz with the current drivers first, especially with a card like yours
[03:24] <shrug> wut1... have you enabled restricted drivers?
[03:24] <Wut1> is the hd 2400 bad for it?
[03:24] <Wut1> i dunno how..
[03:24] <billy> go preferences and then advanced desktop effects setting
[03:24] <Wut1> i'm new
[03:24] <jngu1> Hello all. Are there any known issues with lvms, /boot and ubuntu?
[03:25] <dooglus> when I try to play music now I see: "[AO OSS] audio_setup: Can't open audio device /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy"
[03:25] <dooglus> how can I find what's using /dev/dsp?
[03:25] <pwnager> what are you using to play music?
[03:25] <dooglus> fuser and lsof both tell me nothing is
[03:25] <shrug> wut1: go to system->admin-> restriced drivers
[03:25] <kelsin> dooglus: you shouldn't need to use oss to use sound, whatever program it is, you should try and make it use alsa
[03:26] <Wut1> the box opens up saying i do not need resticed drivers
[03:26] <shrug> wut1: ok that cool
[03:26] <Wut1> so what do i do?
[03:26] <shrug> anyone know the command to test render ...
[03:26] <shrug> umm
[03:26] <shrug> hold on
[03:26] <dooglus> kelsin: I've been using "aoss", whatever that is.  It's been working fine for 18 months or so, but it's just stopped working 5 minutes ago, half way through a song.
[03:26] <dooglus> kelsin: should I reboot?  or what?
[03:26] <jngu1> when I try to mount /boot, I get its busy or already mounted
[03:26] <pwnager> Wut1: go preferences, advanced desktop effects setting
[03:27] <kelsin> dooglus: aoss with what?
[03:27] <shrug> it wont be there till he installs compiz
[03:27] <shrug> unless he already did
[03:27] <pwnager> he mightve, and just not known
[03:27] <jngu1> I suspect that the lvm is claiming /dev/sda1
[03:27] <dooglus> kelsin: aoss mplayer, or aoss beep-media-player, or aoss skype, or aoss firefox, or whatever...
[03:27] <shrug> wut1: did you already install compiz?
[03:27] <jngu1> even though it shouldn't be part of the lvm
[03:27] <dooglus> kelsin: that way they seem to be happier to share the sound system
[03:27] <Wut1> doesnt 7.10 come with it?
[03:27] <jngu1> but it refuses to mount.
[03:28] <jngu1> which is kind of weird.
[03:28] <tigran> Wut1: Yes
[03:28] <jngu1> but I'm not sure what to do.
[03:28] <Wut1> well then yes..
[03:28] <shrug> wut1: no.. mine didnt
[03:28] <Wut1> ..
[03:28] <tigran> 7.10 gutsy comes with compiz
[03:28] <Wut1> i'm so confused
[03:28] <pwnager> then it should be in preferences, advanced desktop settings
[03:28] <shrug> lol
[03:28] <shrug> ok.. mine did not come with it though
[03:28] <kelsin> dooglus: you shouldn't need to do that anymore, all of those programs can just use alsa and not have a problem, make sure you are using sudo when you lsof the /dev/dsp file
[03:28] <ouellettesr> tigran http://pastebin.org/10361
[03:28] <Wut1> where di=o i find it if i have it?
[03:28] <jngu1> anyone? lvm + /boot?
[03:28] <kelsin> dooglus: other then that I don't have any advice :-( havn't had to use oss and aoss in the past two years
[03:28] <Wut1> opps
[03:29] <Wut1> where do i find it, if i have it?
[03:29] <pwnager> Wut1: go to system, preferences, advanced desktop effects settings
[03:29] <jngu1> anyone? lvm + /boot?
[03:29] <pestilence> i have an asus terminator C3, i just bought an SATA drive for it and copied my ubuntu installation over to it.  now it won't boot.  any ideas?
[03:29] <shrug> its not there is it
[03:29] <dooglus> kelsin: I did $ sudo lsof /dev/dsp
[03:29] <robdig> jngu1: what is your question?
[03:29] <tigran> ouellettesr: Hmm. Don't know. It looks right
[03:29] <Yordan> Is anyone familiar with installing ubuntu on an inspiron 1100? I'm having issues with Gutsy
[03:29] <pestilence> i installed grub, but am not sure i installed it correctly.  i don't get a grub prompt.
[03:29] <Wut1> dont see advanced desktop effects settings
[03:29] <jngu1> At some point, my /boot stop being mountable.
[03:29] <shrug> its not there
[03:30] <jngu1> not quite sure what caused it, probably an apt-get dist-upgrade at some point
[03:30] <shrug> because it doesnt come with it
[03:30] <jngu1> but when I try to mount it, it complains that its busy.
[03:30] <jngu1> it isn't part of the lvm... or at least it shouldn't be.
[03:30] <jngu1> I can't verify it.
[03:30] <shrug> wut1: go to system/prefs/appearance
[03:30] <ouellettesr> ok tigran thanks for looking
[03:30] <tigran> its in system-> preferences -> Apperance -> Visual Effects
[03:30] <robdig> jngu1: so your system won't boot?
[03:30] <Wut1> ok
[03:30] <jngu1> (I don't know very much about lvms)
[03:30] <shrug> yes... but thats not compiz
[03:30] <jngu1> yeah
[03:30] <jngu1> well, it can boot, but I can't upgrade the kernel by placing a new one in /boot.
[03:30] <tigran> compiz fusion
[03:30] <shrug> you have to install compiz for the advanced stuff
[03:31] <tigran> shrug, its out of the box
[03:31] <Wut1> "desktop effects could not be loaded"
[03:31] <shrug> from the synaptic
[03:31] <pwnager> advanced stuff such as?
[03:31] <shrug> tigran: no its differenct
[03:31] <robdig> jngu1: so if the box is up, i think /boot is already mounted, type mount with no params and it will show you what is mounted where
[03:31] <ahddm> Hello I installed Ubuntu 6.06 a few days ago, then I updated to Edgy, with no problem, then today I updated to Feisty today and when I try to boot I get Xserver Error that screen cannot be found. I am using a Toshiba P105
[03:31] <jngu1> its not/
[03:31] <jngu1> its in single user mode.
[03:32] <shrug> tigran: you get the advance stuff when you install compiz... you get a whole nother option in your menu
[03:32] <jngu1> Can't update menu.lst.
[03:32] <tigran> shrug: you mean ccsm?
[03:32] <kelsin> ahddm: need to look ath the xorg log to see what the real error is, screen can not be found normally due to another error before it in the log
[03:32] <shrug> tigran: yeah.. thats it
[03:32] <ahddm> how can i access that
[03:32] <shrug> tigran: sorry
[03:32]  * robdig is thinking which is hard this time of night
[03:32] <tigran> shrug: now we understand each other :P
[03:32] <ahddm> kelsin: how do i check it?
[03:32] <shrug> tigran: but that is was he wants im sure
[03:33] <Wut1> my visual effects cant be unabled
[03:33] <Wut1> enabled*
[03:33] <shrug> wut1: unabled or enabled
[03:33] <kelsin> ahddm: ahddm in the temrinal "less /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[03:33] <shrug> wut1: ok
[03:33] <jsoftw> Who needs visual effects anyway :p
[03:33] <tigran> Wut1: install fusion-icon
[03:33] <tigran> it'll do the trick
[03:33] <kelsin> ahddm: all important logs are in /var/log or it's subdirectories
[03:33] <jsoftw> Surely one uses a computer for more than looking at pretty effects :p
[03:33] <Wut1> how? where do i get it?
[03:33] <tigran> Wut1: What card do you have?
[03:33] <tigran> Wut1: Go to #compiz-fusion
[03:33] <Wut1> ati HD 2400 XT
[03:33] <ahddm> kelsin: should I boot and use that after it gives error
[03:33] <tigran> more appropriate
[03:34] <ezzieyguywuf> how can i make it so that rhythmbox does not open automatically anytime i plug in my mp3 player?
[03:34] <ahddm> kelsin: or can I just look at it off live cd
[03:34] <jngu1> TIA robdig
[03:34] <Wut1> i think i dont have a driver installed for it
[03:34] <Wut1> so i need help with that
[03:34] <patrick_> robdig_: are you there?
[03:34] <tigran> System->Preferences->Removalbe drives and media
[03:34] <kelsin> ahddm: you would need to get it off of your computer, not the live cd ram filesystem
[03:34] <kelsin> ahddm: should be able to mount your real / partition in the live cd system and get the log all of it
[03:34] <patrick_> robdig_: please tell me you're there haha
[03:34] <Rick65> just installed yesterday from WinXP...how do I get apps to appear in the menu?  i checked the "Main Menu" option, but apps such as "7-Zip" don't show up, even though they were added via "add/remove" gui.
[03:34] <tigran> ezzieyguywuf: System->Preferences->Removable drives and media
[03:35] <ahddm> kelsin: ok, once I open the log what do I look for
[03:35] <ezzieyguywuf> tigran: thanks
[03:35] <kelsin> ahddm: errors
[03:35] <tigran> ezzieyguywuf: np
[03:35] <patrick_> can anyone help me connect to my wireless router??
[03:35] <tigran> Wut1: If you want ccsm you need compizconfig-settings-manager
[03:35] <Rick65> patrick...I can give it a shot...I did it yesterday.
[03:35] <ahddm> kelsin: ok ill check and come back thank you for help
[03:36] <robdig> patrick_: yup, i'm here, thinking about jnguls prob
[03:36] <kelsin> ahddm: yeah normall it can't find screens because a driver failed, or can't initialize monitor, or something else
[03:36] <Rick65> patrick...what's the problem?
[03:36] <patrick_> rick5: okay im runnin ubuntu 7.1 on my laptop and i just went into my router and set a wep password but i cannot connect
[03:36] <mzanfardino> question: I'm using QuickVPN via wine to connect to my company net.  QuickVPN connects successfully, but now I don't know what to do.  Anyone have any experience with vpn, QuickVPN or otherwise?
[03:36] <patrick_> robdig: if possible try to pay attention to what im sayin and see if you recognize any problems thanks
[03:36] <PiranhaP> I think I know the answer to this, but: Do I have any hope of getting Network Manager to cope with my bridged network interface (br0, containing eth0).  In other words, can I get it to roam using br0, but detect network cable insertion using eth0?
[03:36] <kelsin> patrick_: just as a side note it is 7.10, not 7.1 (stands for 2007, Oct)
[03:36] <Wut1> well i want ot install the drivers on this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Ati but i cant do to i cant open restricted drivers manager
[03:36] <shrug> patrick
[03:37] <patrick_> kelsin: understood
[03:37] <patrick_> shrug: what up
[03:37] <Rick65> patrick...you did that via "Network"?
[03:37] <Yordan> Can anyone help me get ubuntu working on my Dell inspiron 1100? I hear reports of it working, but the installer is having odd graphical issues, eventually hangs and shuts down, etc. I've tried everything on the forums.
[03:37] <mogra> does ubuntu's vlc not recognize mp4a audio?
[03:37] <shrug> is another pc on your network sharing internet?
[03:37] <patrick_> rick65: i am pluggin in with a cable and i went into my router and created a wep password, i have password a b c and d and im using a
[03:37] <patrick_> shrug: only my desktop that is wired
[03:38] <bruenig> mogra, it is not unlikely, I know in the past ubuntu has had a hard time compiling mplayer libraries with all necessary functionality.  Thanks, bruenig
[03:38] <msm-aruba> help needed on setting up graphics card (dell inspiron 5100)
[03:39] <Rick65> patrick...I'm sorry, but I've only set up wireless with Ubuntu...never a wired connection.
[03:39] <msm-aruba> don t know how to get to the open-source drivers
[03:39] <neil_d> would it be difficult to upgrade python to 2.5 on ubuntu 6.10
[03:39] <msm-aruba> greyed out
[03:39] <shrug> how far is your pc from your router?
[03:39] <patrick_> shrug: right net to it
[03:39] <shrug> why not use cable?
[03:39] <patrick_> shrug: cuz i'd be using it in my room, right now its next to my router =/
[03:39] <shrug> patrick: i c
[03:40] <patrick_> rick65: i am running ubuntu, you should be able to help, i was just informing you that i set up a wep key
[03:40] <shrug> patrick_: ummm... there is an easy settup thin in router config
[03:40] <GuHHH> does someone uses amavis + postfix + spamassassin?
[03:40] <michael> Using Inspiron 5160, Can't change my screen-- Stuck on plug n play, Also getting error rgb glx visual error
[03:40] <shrug> patrick_ try restore everything to default and pushing that
[03:40] <GuHHH> does someone uses amavis + postfix + spamassassin? i need help. my spams are not getting tagged or any spam headers...
[03:41] <shrug> patrick_ then see if it detects the network
[03:41] <elrics_fate> hi all
[03:41] <patrick_> shrug: i dont believe my router is the problem, i was running internet wirelessly fine on my laptop with windows xp
[03:41] <patrick_> shrug: my comp does detect the network i just cant connect
[03:41] <michael> Using Inspiron 5160, Can't change my screen-- Stuck on plug n play, Also getting error rgb glx visual error
[03:42] <kelsin> patrick_: network manager brings up the wep key dialog box, correct? And then you put in the same thing you put in for password a?
[03:42] <shrug> patrick_ i had the same probs before... i just had to fiddle with it alot
[03:42] <patrick_> kelsin: correct and correct
[03:42] <IpMoo> michael:   u might find something here .... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=532465
[03:42] <kelsin> patrick_: and it doesn't connect? You made sure to change the drop down option to the hex option correct?
[03:43] <patrick_> kelsin: im pretty sure i've done wep hex key just one second let me check something
[03:43] <Scunizi> Banshee recognizes my iPod Nano but how do I get only what I want onto it? (3 podcasts)
[03:43] <UBUNTUISLOVED> anyone know the best way to stop the flickering on IE for Linux on Flash objects?
[03:43] <shrug> patrick_: did you make it dhcp?
[03:44] <patrick_> kelsin: everything is set up correct, automatic config for dhcp and the wep key matches key a with hex key selected
[03:44] <LifeNomad> I am trying to get my bluetooth headset working, I have done everything howtos have said, i have DL'ed bluez, and all that.  I have gotten to the point where when I set XMMS to BT Headset for a sound card, I get a beep, then no sound...I am running ubuntu feisty
[03:44] <patrick_> kelsin: let me check if it connects real quick
[03:44] <patrick_> SHRUG AND KELSIN ILL BE RIGHT BACK STAY ONLINE
[03:44] <shrug> will do
[03:44] <thyrax> does mdadm have a gui?
[03:45] <Dankchild> hey guys i have a question, if i wanted to install a different linux os (im still shopping around) could i do it without uninstalling ubuntu?
[03:45] <kelsin> Dankchild: if you have more space on your drive
[03:45] <kelsin> Dankchild: or have backups and room to resize your partitions to make romo
[03:45] <Dankchild> kelsin, i have 100 gigs free, i have space haha
[03:46] <shrug> patrick_: gotta pick up wife from work.. bbiab
[03:46] <elrics_fate> lol
[03:46] <elrics_fate> u have plenty of space then
[03:46] <kelsin> Dankchild: then yeah, just install the other linux on a new partition
[03:46] <robdig> jngu1: got me on that one...
[03:46] <elrics_fate> to install linux and windows or w/e u want asside Ubuntu
[03:46] <Dankchild> kelsin, but like when im installing it, will it prompt me to make a new partition?
[03:46] <patrick__> IM BACK
[03:46] <patrick__> and no it still will not connect
[03:46] <shrug> pat... gotta pick up wife.. bbiab
[03:47] <kelsin> Dankchild: I have no idea, depends on the install
[03:47] <volumenico> Dankchild: which distro are you thinking of installing
[03:47] <patrick__> kelsin: when i unpluge my ethernet cable and i go to the top icon for network connections
[03:47] <kelsin> Dankchild: but most linux distros ask you where you install, and you just make sure they do it on different partitions then your linux install
[03:47] <jsoftw> Its all about the goober production.
[03:47] <kotau> sup guys I am trying to play doom on linux using skulltag, but when I run it, I get 'could not init SDL, no availiable video device'  I've looked on the sdl site and most of what they have is about programming and stuff
[03:47] <patrick__> kelsin: all is says is manual configuration
[03:47] <volumenico> Dankchild: backup everything before you try if you are unsure
[03:47] <patrick__> it*
[03:48] <Scunizi> anyone know how to transfer podcasts in Banshee to an iPod nano that IS recognized by ubuntu and banshee?
[03:48] <Dankchild> volumenico, PCLinuxOS
[03:48] <Ashfire908> the programs i have to startup when i login (which i set them to startup from the session manager) don't work anymore.
[03:48] <kelsin> patrick__: it doesn't list your router in the list?
[03:48] <patrick__> kelsin: when i unpluge my ethernet cable, how do i make my internet connect wirelessly, or should it automatically?
[03:48] <patrick__> kelsin: what do you mean?
[03:49] <kelsin> patrick__: the network icon in the corner doesn't list the available wireless networks?
[03:49] <patrick__> kelsin: no not when i unplug my ethernet cable, and i have the updated driver for my wireless card
[03:50] <kelsin> patrick__: when you right click the icon you do have Enable Wireless checked correct?
[03:50] <jsoftw> Ahhh.
[03:51] <patrick__> kelsin: when i right click it has "enable networking" checked and nothing else shows up
[03:51] <cik> is it safe to mention a new channel on this server in here
[03:51] <Scunizi> cik, go ahead .. if it's clean
[03:51] <UBUNTUISLOVED> how to i stop IE for linux flicker from FLASH
[03:52] <patrick__> kelsin: any ideas on what to do??
[03:52] <volumenico> patrick__: this may sound silly, but have you tried restarting your computer? i ran into that problem once or twice and that fixed it for me. is the network encrypted?
[03:52] <cik> it's a channel for blackberry users - #crackberry
[03:52] <kub^> any advice on a decent (easy to install for noobs) webcam, must be under £20, for ubuntu ?
[03:52] <cik> since the original channel is always empty
[03:52] <kelsin> patrick__: you're wireless card isn't enabled at the moment somehow, what type of card do you have?
[03:53] <fiXXXerMet> I've changed my hostname.  How do I generate new SSL Certs for Postfix (smtpd_tls_cert_file = /etc/postfix/ssl2/ca.crt and smtpd_tls_key_file = /etc/postfix/ssl2/ca.key and the others)?
[03:53] <Ashfire908> and i don't know why
[03:53] <patrick__> kelsin: a broadcom card that i have the driver downloaded and installed for, how do i enable it?
[03:53] <patrick__> volumenico: i will try that if all else fails
[03:53] <kelsin> patrick__: is the module currently loaded?
[03:53] <patrick__> kelsin: how do i tell?
[03:53] <kelsin> patrick__: does it show up with the lsmod command?
[03:53] <Baumer> How do you turn on that crazy 3-D workspace thing on Compiz
[03:54] <Scunizi> does ANYBODY in this channel use Banshee?
[03:54] <Ashfire908> the programs i have to startup when i login (which i set them to startup from the session manager) don't work anymore. i don't know why.
[03:54] <patrick__> kelsin: im a novice with terms like that, how do i tell?
[03:54] <volumenico> patrick__: i found that if i put the laptop to sleep it wont recognize my card when it wakes up unless i disable networking before i put it to sleep.
[03:54] <UBUNTUISLOVED> baumer look up desktop effects for ubuntu
[03:54] <kelsin> patrick__: do you know the name of the module for your wireless card that you installed?
[03:54] <patrick__> volumenico: k thanks for the info but my comp is either on or off
[03:55] <patrick__> kelsin: you mean the driver? it was like rev 02 bla bla bla and im prety sure i installed it correctly
[03:55] <patrick__> kelsin: under my restricted drivers it says firmware for my broadcom 43xx chipset family is in use
[03:55] <kelsin> patrick__: ok will you need to open a terminal and run "lsmod" and see if the driver you installed is in the list. If it's not you need to try and load it with "modprobe <drivername>" I can't help you find the driver name
[03:56] <kelsin> patrick__: also when you run "iwconfig" in a terminal does it list anything besides lines with "No wireless extensions"
[03:57] <encrypt3d> can i test a PM to someone to see if i setup my IRC name correctly please?
[03:57] <patrick__> kelsin: 1 sec
[03:57] <Scunizi> encrypt3d, go ahead
[03:59] <LinuxRocks_> ...
[04:00] <LinuxRocks_> bac
[04:01] <ahddm> kelsin: hey
[04:01] <r00tintheb0x> QQ
[04:02] <Baumer> Thanks... how do you control the cube I can't seem to find the keyboard shortcuts for it
[04:02] <ahddm> hello
[04:02] <ubuntu> hello!
[04:02] <ahddm> can anyone read this
[04:02] <ubuntu> I need some help...!
[04:02] <patrickja> asd
[04:02] <kelsin> Baumer: you should install ccsm if you havn't
[04:02] <kelsin> !ccsm
[04:02] <ubotu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[04:02] <encrypt3d> ahddm yes, i can see you
[04:02] <kelsin> ahddm: we can see you, just ask your question if you have one
[04:03] <ahddm> ok
[04:03] <encrypt3d> kelsin, did you see my PM?  i didnt get a reply
[04:03] <ahddm> I went into my error log like you said
[04:03] <Baumer> I have installed that is there a section in the program for keyboard shortcuts
[04:03] <Baumer> ok I'll go there
[04:03] <kelsin> Baumer: for every plugin there is a section to configure keyboard shortcuts, mouse buttons, mouse positions (corners) and the like
[04:04] <LinuxRocks> can anyone help me get flash and shockwave plugins for mizilla firefox?
[04:04] <kelsin> LinuxRocks: on my gutsy install I just went to a site with flash and a wizard walked me through install the adobe flash 9 player
[04:04] <arooni> im having trouble getting ubuntu gutsy to connect to a wireless network i setup with WPA Personal.... it sees the network... i select it... and it tries to connect for awhile then stops (doesnt ask for password).  i also tried manual configuration with no results, and i also tried restarting.. any ideas now?
[04:04] <ahddm> kelsin: I got like 5 errors; No Matching Modes, Screens found but none have a usable configuration, Fatal Screen Error No Screens Found, Bad V_BIOS Checksum
[04:04] <ubuntu> I've install windows vista on my laptop.... and now my GRUB menu is not there...! i'm in a live session on my ubuntu disk and i don't know howto juste reinstall my GRUB Menu on my ubuntu partition ithout format anything...! can someone help me please ???
[04:05] <kelsin> ubuntu: you should be able to open a terminal and run "grub-install /dev/<harddrive you need to install on>"
[04:05] <kelsin> ubuntu: I havn't done it with the ubuntu cd, but I know knoppix has the grub install program available
[04:06] <LinuxRocks> so can someone here walk me through getting flash and shockwave plugins?
[04:06] <kelsin> LinuxRocks: does going to a flash enabled site not bring up the wizard in firefox for you?
[04:06] <LinuxRocks> it does but then it says theres no updates
[04:06] <LinuxRocks> and fails
[04:07] <kelsin> trying "sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree"
[04:07] <ubuntu> kelsin: do i have to write : sudo  grub-install /dev/sda or sda2 like?
[04:07] <kelsin> LinuxRocks: try that command from a terminal
[04:07] <kelsin> ahddm: we can see you, just ask your question if you have one
[04:07] <LinuxRocks> i dont kno what to ype in terminal
[04:07] <LinuxRocks> type
[04:07] <ahddm> When I start feisty I get Xserver error and just stuck in terminal I am upgrading from Edgy
[04:08] <ahddm> kelsin: I got like 5 errors; No Matching Modes, Screens found but none have a usable configuration, Fatal Screen Error No Screens Found, Bad V_BIOS Checksum
[04:08] <kelsin> LinuxRocks: "sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree"
[04:08] <shrug> patrick_: you there?
[04:08] <kelsin> ubuntu: I havn't done it with the ubuntu cd, but I know knoppix has the grub install program availableyour monitor
[04:09] <ubuntu> oki!
[04:09] <LinuxRocks> ya i yped it and it said command not found
[04:09] <LinuxRocks> typed^
[04:09] <sbosio> hi all
[04:09] <kelsin> LinuxRocks: are you on a ubuntu systeM?
[04:09] <ubuntu> kelsin: oki I'll try it out!
[04:09] <LinuxRocks> yes
[04:09] <Tuxthepenguin> !debian
[04:09] <ubotu> Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[04:10] <patrickja> kelsin does he need to login as su - in terminal to run that?
[04:10] <Vicfred> hi there
[04:10] <kelsin> LinuxRocks: and yet you don't have aptitude? try "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" then
[04:10] <sbosio> wanna know if somebody has problems with last tzdata package update on gutsy
[04:10] <ubuntu> kelsin: i got an error...:
[04:10] <ahddm> I am getting Xserver issues on my laptop when I boot on feisty
[04:10] <ubuntu> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install /dev/sda3
[04:10] <ubuntu> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[04:11] <ahddm> kelsin: I got like 5 errors; No Matching Modes, Screens found but none have a usable configuration, Fatal Screen Error No Screens Found, Bad V_BIOS Checksum
[04:11] <Vicfred> i compiled pidgin but when i try to login with my msn account it says it doesnt have ssl support i used ./configure --enable-gnutls=yes --enable-nss=yes
[04:11] <fiXXXerMet> I've changed my hostname.  How do I generate new SSL Certs for Postfix (smtpd_tls_cert_file = /etc/postfix/ssl2/ca.crt and smtpd_tls_key_file = /etc/postfix/ssl2/ca.key and the others)?
[04:11] <LinuxRocks> hey thanks
[04:11] <LinuxRocks> its doing something....
[04:11] <ahddm> I get; No Matching Modes, Screens found but none have a usable configuration, Fatal Screen Error No Screens Found, Bad V_BIOS Checksum
[04:11] <kelsin> Vicfred: any reason to not use the piding included with ubuntu?
[04:11] <Vicfred> hmm no im just tryin to compile from source >_<
[04:11] <kelsin> ahddm: I would check your monitor modes then, and make sure they are correct
[04:12] <kelsin> Vicfred: I would "sudo aptitude install pidgin" and use that version then, it should have most options enabled
[04:12] <ahddm> How can i change moniter modes?
[04:12] <eses> Hello: any know how to accelerate hardware , need to run 3dDesktop
[04:12] <kelsin> ahddm: are you the one that installed 6.06?
[04:12] <ahddm> ya
[04:12] <kelsin> ahddm: honestly I would download a 7.10 iso and install from that so you're not starting withupgrade issues
[04:12] <shrug> eses: graphx card?
[04:13] <eses> Shrug: sis
[04:13] <eses> Shrug: on a laptop
[04:13] <Dankchild> hey guys im shopping around for an os i like this one the best so far, however i have one more to try since it says its out-of-box video compatable, im downloading a live cd of it, what do i do with a live cd?
[04:13] <shrug> eses: not sure with that...
[04:13] <ahddm> Ok will try, but is there anyway to upgrade with cd without losing data?
[04:14] <kelsin> Dankchild: boot with it in your cd rom drive
[04:14] <slackorama> all of a sudden my network stopped working.  /etc/network/interfaces has the right info and restarting /etc/init.d/networking doesn't cure it.
[04:14] <sbosio> can someone guide me with a package related problem???
[04:14] <kelsin> ahddm: you have a lot of data from the past 2 days?
[04:14] <Dankchild> kelsin: do i have to install anything?
[04:14] <kelsin> Dankchild: nope, that's the reason for a live cd
[04:14] <ahddm> ya 1000 songs and alot of website data
[04:14] <kelsin> sbosio: just explain the problem
[04:14] <Dankchild> kelsin: k, so theres no possible way to overwrite my data?
[04:14] <LinuxRocks> hey it did something but it didnt install the flash player should i restart the computer?
[04:15] <ouellettesr> maybe someone can help me... When I start my computer, after grub loads, the screen goes blank for 5 minutes until the gdm login screen loads. If I remove quiet and splash from the grub menu, the system boots normally.
[04:15] <naelr> how do I add a andrew morton patch to my kernel
[04:15] <Dankchild> kelsin: or do i have to create a partiton anyway?
[04:15] <kelsin> ahddm: you can, since you already have a system that won't boot X I would recommend backing up the data, or moving it to another partition, In the future it's a good idea to make a separate home partition so you never have to change or remove it when you upgrade / install a differen linux distro
[04:15] <kelsin> Dankchild: not for a live cd
[04:15] <sbosio> i was upgrading and the new version of package tzdata can't be installed, blocking any other upgrade / install
[04:15] <kelsin> Dankchild: no, not unless once in the live cd you mousnt your system partition then delete files on it
[04:15] <Ticklemonster> ouellettesr, turn off compriz?
[04:16] <ahddm> ok thanks ill download 7.10 now and upgrade
[04:16] <ahddm> thank you for help
[04:16] <kelsin> ouellettesr: sounds like your computer just doesn't support framebuffer
[04:16] <kelsin> ahddm: I think it will just leave you with a cleaner system, instead of boggling down with wierd issues when you're trying to learn
[04:16] <Dankchild> kelsin: im still pretty new to this, sorry, i just have a couple questions about partitions, do i have to have an empty hard drive to create one?
[04:17] <ouellettesr> kelsin, the splash works with the live cd, so I don't think that's the case...
[04:17] <kelsin> Dankchild: no, there are programs and live cds (gparted in particular) that can resize and change partitions, not always a 100%safe operation but it can be done
[04:17] <ubuntu_> hello
[04:17] <Ticklemonster> ah, ouellettesr, have you gone to synaptic to make sure nothing is broken?
[04:18] <Vicfred> kelskin: i think i screwed the ssl support i installed pidgin over "sudo aptitude install pidgin" and it says it needs ssl support...
[04:18] <ouellettesr> Ticklemonster: no I haven't, I just installed the system
[04:18] <kelsin> ouellettesr: probably need to play with the vga= option in your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:18] <Ticklemonster> oh
[04:18] <Dankchild> kelsin: ok, can i safely make a partiton through ubuntu to have one prepared for my livecd? or do i have to do it through the live cd?
[04:19] <ouellettesr> kelsin, I tried that too :-/
[04:19] <kelsin> Vicfred: you should probably remove the pidgin package, and remove the files you installed, then install the package again
[04:19] <sbosio> kelsin: last upgrade of package tzdata failed to install (it says post-installation script failed) and now I can't upgrade or install anything less 'cause always tries to configure that misconfigured package
[04:19] <kelsin> Dankchild: you do not need to do ANYTHING on your computer for a live cd
[04:19] <Ticklemonster> sudo edit /etc/apt/fstab, and after the entry for you / partition, change the last number one to a zero. if you aren't comfortable doing that, don't
[04:19] <eses> Hello: any know how to accelerate hardware , need to run 3dDesktop
[04:19] <kelsin> Dankchild: that's why it's called a live cd, you don't need to do anything and it doesn't change or save anything on your system
[04:20] <Dankchild> kelsin: oh no i completely understand that, what i mean is if i want to install from it.
[04:20] <IanLiu> I was installing Mac4Lin, but I moved the Max(Min)imize/Close button to the left side of the title bar. How do I turn them back?
[04:20] <Ticklemonster> @FloodBot1, how's it hanging, dude
[04:20] <Ticklemonster> lol
[04:20] <kelsin> Dankchild: yes, you should create a partition first, or use the tools on the live cd, it all depends on the live cd, most good distributions include instructions for creating a partition on their site or in the documentation
[04:20] <LinuxRocks> hey im on a amd64 ubuntu and i installed the flash player 9 and it still didnt work but it installed
[04:21] <kelsin> IanLiu: did Mac4Lin walk you through changing the buttons or just did it?
[04:21] <IanLiu> It walked me trought, but I tried to reverse that step, but it didn't work
[04:21] <Dankchild> kelsin: yes this particular dist. comes with one one the livecd, but i was wondering if it would be safer to do it through ubuntu?
[04:21] <kelsin> IanLiu: you can goto the gconf-editor and the key you want is in Apps/Metacity/Defaults/buttonlayout
[04:22] <IanLiu> yeah, I did change that conf. but the buttons still on left side
[04:22] <IanLiu> maybe because I changed the theme to Glossy?
[04:22] <kelsin> Dankchild: they most likely use the same tools, if you want to resize partitions I recommend downloading the gparted live cd, I find it to be very good, but most likely the live cd you got has the same program that ubuntu has
[04:23] <kelsin> IanLiu: I don't have much experience with other themes, it's possible the theme overwrites the button position, if you aren't using metacity as a windows manager then it def won't matter
[04:23] <Volvagia356> I have a problem but I'm not sute it it's Ubuntu, GRUB or Vista related.
[04:23] <eses> any know how to accelerate hardware , need to run 3dDesktop
[04:23] <IanLiu> yeah, thats waht I thought... but do you have any tips where this could have changed?
[04:23] <Box|Box|Box> Alright fellow Ubuntu users, I've got a dumb issue that I'm stumped on.
[04:24] <kelsin> IanLiu: I don't fully understand your question, are you using metacity or another wm (compiz etc)?
[04:24] <Box|Box|Box> The running programs list (via icons) such as active programs seemed to disappear and I cannot figure out how to get it back.
[04:24] <Ongaku> where is the configuration file for DOSBox located? lol...i can´t find it
[04:24] <IanLiu> Metacity is just a theme, isnt it?
[04:25] <kelsin> IanLiu: Metacity is the default gnome windows manager, unless you replace it with Compiz
[04:25] <LinuxRocks> kelsin im on a amd64 ubuntu system can installing flash plugins be hard on that?
[04:25] <Volvagia356> I have a problem but I'm not sute it it's Ubuntu, GRUB or Vista related.
[04:25] <kelsin> LinuxRocks: very
[04:25] <IanLiu> hmm
[04:25] <Dankchild> kelsin: k man, thankyou so much i appreciate it greatly.
[04:25] <Ongaku> probably Vista :P lol
[04:25] <kelsin> LinuxRocks: adobe only makes a 32 bit flash player, I would google alot, it is a common issue
[04:25] <kelsin> Dankchild: np
[04:25] <Dankchild> VISTA ROCKS!
[04:25] <Ongaku> lol
[04:25] <IanLiu> well, I activated the Ubuntu effects, if this helps..
[04:25] <Dankchild> lol
[04:25] <Box|Box|Box> Anyone know?  I'm dumb as all hell, I just need to get the running programs icon list back. :[
[04:25] <Volvagia356> Well I just installed Ubuntu multiboot
[04:26] <LinuxRocks> kelsin if i get x86 will it matter? will it solve my issues?
[04:26] <eses> any know how to accelerate hardware , need to run 3dDesktop
[04:26] <kelsin> IanLiu: then you are running Compiz and the metacity options in gconf will have no effect. I don't know if compiz lets you set that but if it does it would be under Apps/COmpiz somewhere and might be editable with ccsm
[04:26] <yuaoki> Hi what app should I use to load music on my Mp3 player?
[04:26] <kelsin> !ccsm | IanLiu
[04:26] <ubotu> IanLiu: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[04:26] <kelsin> yuaoki: does your mp3 player not just show up as a usb hard drive so you can drop mp3s on it?
[04:26] <Volvagia356> and when I boot back to vista, my screen resolutions are messed up
[04:26] <IanLiu> hmm, I will take a look at that
[04:26] <IanLiu> thank you very much
[04:27] <yuaoki> It's Creative Zen Stone Plus
[04:27] <yuaoki> and no It doesn't
[04:27] <kelsin> yuaoki: I am completely unfamiliar with that player but I know some have an option for the usb mode, you can change them to make them act as a normal usb storage device, past that I don't know :-(
[04:27] <Volvagia356> !grub
[04:27] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:28] <LinuxRocks> kelsin: do you think i should get x86 ubuntu version?
[04:28] <Box|Box|Box> Anyone here know a bit about ubuntu and gnome that could answer a quick question?
[04:28] <kelsin> Volvagia356: grub and ubuntu should have no effect on vista
[04:29] <kelsin> LinuxRocks: I recommend that yes. The effect of actually running 64bit on the desktop is not worth it imho
[04:29] <Volvagia356> the odd thing is
[04:29] <kelsin> Box|Box|Box: you should just ask the question, if people have an answer and can help they will respond
[04:29] <Volvagia356> in GRUB, it displays "Windows Longhorn" and there is TWO of them
[04:29] <LinuxRocks> im running 64 bit on a laptop not desttop
[04:29] <jack> How can I mount harddrive when running off Live cs
[04:29] <jack> cd
[04:30] <kelsin> Volvagia356: that is fully configurable in the /boot/grub/menu.lst file in ubuntu, you can probably remove one. When booting windows grub does nothing but tell the computer to boot off of the windows drive
[04:30] <Box|Box|Box> Well, the idle program icon list (found near the clock and whatnot) seems to have disapeared, and I need it back.  Any clues as to how I go about doing this?
[04:30] <Box|Box|Box> Like chat programs and things like that.
[04:30] <LinuxRocks> kelsin: im running x64 on a laptop will x86 work better than what i got?
[04:30] <kelsin> jack "sudo mkdir /mnt/sys; sudo mount /dev/<hd_or_sd> /mnt/sys"
[04:31] <Volvagia356> I'll try EasyBCD and see what happens
[04:31] <jack> ty ill try
[04:31] <kelsin> LinuxRocks: it will avoid the issues you will have like with flash, there are many pages on the net talking about the differences and pros and cons
[04:31] <h1st0> Box|Box|Box: what are you trying to do?
[04:31] <h1st0> Box|Box|Box: ahh the systray
[04:31] <Box|Box|Box> Just get the idle programs listed back on my panel.
[04:31] <Box|Box|Box> It's not in the add panel list.
[04:31] <Box|Box|Box> :[
[04:32] <kelsin> Box|Box|Box: right click on a blank point of the panel and click "Add to panel" and find the one you want
[04:32] <Box|Box|Box> Yes, it's no where to be found.  The systray, I'm assuming.
[04:32] <h1st0> Box|Box|Box: right click on the panel and add the Notification area
[04:32] <Box|Box|Box> Everything else is tehre :P
[04:32] <LinuxRocks> kelsin: hmmm i got a AMD Turion 64 Mobile Technology with x64bit ubuntu running so u think x86 will make it go slow?
[04:32] <h1st0> Box|Box|Box: its at the bottom
[04:32] <Box|Box|Box> DEAR GOD.
[04:32] <Box|Box|Box> The only one I didn't try.
[04:32] <Box|Box|Box> I thought to myself, "Nah, that couldn't be the notification area..."
[04:33] <kelsin> LinuxRocks: I already said that I think the small difference in performance is not worth the hassle on a desktop, that is also my opinion and to be taken with a grain of salt
[04:33] <Box|Box|Box> Thanks much guys.
[04:33] <Box|Box|Box> Dumb, but happy.
[04:33] <kelsin> LinuxRocks: most programs you will be running do not fully take advantage of 64bit anyway
[04:33] <Box|Box|Box> G'night all.
[04:33] <Wutz> hey guys, whats the compiz irc channel again?
[04:33] <LinuxRocks> kelsin: so you saying try x86 right? sorry im new to this
[04:33] <kitofhawaii> Wutz: you're there already
[04:33] <h1st0> LinuxRocks: you won't even notice the speed difference
[04:34] <Wutz> k thought so
[04:34] <kelsin> LinuxRocks: for the third time, MY OPINION is that I would run x86 even on a 64 bit chip, if you want more info try google
[04:34] <ouellettesr> ok guys I found a solotion to my bootup problem its described here. http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#Fix_Slow_boot.2Ffaulty_splash_screen
[04:34] <LinuxRocks> kelsin: thanks for the help
[04:34] <kelsin> LinuxRocks: np
[04:35] <h1st0> Wutz: They used to have a channel
[04:35] <Fezzler> Sometimes when using Firefox, I click a link and my desktop completely clears, except for my background desktop image??
[04:35] <IanLiu> Its me again... I have changed ubuntu to use no effects and Buttons still left aligned on window Title bar... any tips?
[04:35] <Fezzler> GNOME menu is gone too?
[04:37] <h1st0> IanLiu: System > Preferences > appearence.  You can get the effects back.
[04:37] <h1st0> IanLiu: what do you mean about the buttons being left aligned?
[04:37] <kelsin> h1st0: he's trying to change the button layout
[04:37] <h1st0> Fezzler: sounds like a bug.  Can you reproduce the lock up?
[04:38] <IanLiu> I was trying to install Mac4Lin, and I changed a conf. on gconf so that Close/Min/Max buttons are aligned to the left of the title bar
[04:38] <adayah> Hi.  I having a wireless broadcom card issue where my connection appears as eth0:avahi in gutsy gibbon and I have no internet connection.  anyone know what eth0:avahi means and what to do?
[04:38] <h1st0> Fezzler: also to recover you could try hitting alt+f2 to bring up a run prompt and restart gnome-panel.  Or you could hit ctrl+alt+backspace to restart X
[04:38] <IanLiu> Now I wanted to reverse this change, but I couldn't make it...
[04:38] <Fezzler> h1st0 Thanks!
[04:38] <h1st0> adayah: with the broadcom cards you need firmware.
[04:39] <Fezzler> I went to another instance of Ubuntu and did a sudo reboot
[04:39] <h1st0> Is ubotu down?
[04:39] <cafuego> !tst
[04:39] <h1st0> yeap
[04:39] <cafuego> it would seem so.
[04:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tst - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:39] <h1st0> ahh maybe just slow
[04:39] <Fezzler> Funny, my Compbiz still worked!  I could flip desktops (4)
[04:39] <cafuego> Oh, just laggy.
[04:39] <eses> how do install ccsm? help
[04:39] <adayah> ok iĺl see if sonnet has it but once i find it what then?
[04:39] <kelsin> !ccsm
[04:39] <ubotu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[04:40] <h1st0> !broadcom > adayah (Please see the private message from ubotu)
[04:40] <adayah> ok thanks
[04:40] <h1st0> Fezzler: well then probably gnome-panel crashed is all.
[04:40] <pbandjco> is there any kind of drive manager built into ubuntu? format/partition/rename
[04:41] <usser> pbandjco, tons :)
[04:41] <usser> pbandjco, try gparted
[04:41] <h1st0> Fezzler: if you get a run dialog up you could do something like killall gnome-panel.  It should restart the panel up top on its own.
[04:41] <tomd123> Linuxrocks: I agree with kelsin, that's actually my setup because x86 has much more stable everything
[04:41] <kelsin> pbandjco: I don't know what you mean by rename, but you can install gparted that will help with some of those
[04:41] <eses> ubotu: how to install compizconfig-settings-manage
[04:41] <pbandjco> usser: glad to hear it so what is the easiest way for me to get my nforce raid drives seen by my comp?
[04:41] <kelsin> !software | eses
[04:41] <ubotu> eses: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[04:41] <h1st0> eses: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[04:41] <h1st0> !bot > eses (Please see the private message from ubotu)
[04:42] <Fezzler> I did get a little app that asked me if I wanted to run an app.  ?
[04:42] <usser> pbandjco, hm, never done that sorry
[04:42] <h1st0> Fezzler: then just type in killall gnome-panel
[04:42] <pbandjco> anyone know how to get nforce raid up and running?
[04:43] <pbandjco> or is it possible to read an ntfs partition?
[04:43] <kelsin> pbandjco: it is possible to read and write ntfs partitions
[04:43] <Fezzler> I saw in Synaptic a DOS emulator.  Anyone ever try it?  I have a few DOS programs I'd like to try under Ubuntu
[04:43] <pbandjco> kelsin: by default?
[04:43] <h1st0> !dmraid > pbandjco (Please see the private message from ubotu)
[04:44] <h1st0> pbandjco: yes
[04:44] <usser> Fezzler, yes its a great app
[04:44] <h1st0> pbandjco: ntfs support is built in to ubuntu.
[04:44] <usser> Fezzler, dosbox
[04:44] <Fezzler> I collect old computers and many have DOS link programs out the serial ports, etc.
[04:44] <doctapeppa> problem: I switch to fluxbox and then back to gnome and gnome is gone; all I have is an x-shaped cursor, nothing else, even alt+f2 doesn't work
[04:44] <pbandjco> i get a $MFT has invalid magic.
[04:45] <doctapeppa> only reboot fixes it
[04:45] <kelsin> doctapeppa: when you say "switch" do you mean log out and log in switching your session option in gdm?
[04:45] <doctapeppa> kelsin: yes
[04:45] <prey_alone> does "noatime" make sense in /etc/fstab for cdrom devices?
[04:46] <xtknight> prey_alone,  i dont think it's relevant since you cant write accesstime back to cd devices
[04:46] <Evanlec> prey_alone, no not really
[04:46] <prey_alone> ah
[04:46] <xtknight> noatime is the unchangeable default
[04:46] <djh2400> !ubuntu
[04:46] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[04:46] <djh2400> !help
[04:46] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:46] <Fezzler> usser: HMM .  What kind of interface does dosbox put up, a C: prompt?
[04:46] <h1st0> !botabuse > DjViper (Please see the private message from ubotu)
[04:47] <prey_alone> thanks
[04:47] <h1st0> DjViper: sry wrong person other dj left already.
[04:47] <Fezzler> I think the one I came across was dosemi
[04:47] <zynergi\> would ubuntu be sufficent for a server enviroment, or is it moreso for workstations?
[04:47] <kelsin> zynergi\: it's fine for both
[04:47] <Fezzler> make that dosemu
[04:47] <h1st0> Fezzler: why don't you run linux on the old computers
[04:47] <jrib> zynergi\: there is ubuntu-server
[04:47] <usser> Fezzler, Z: but u can mount an actual physical directory of your computer to dosbox so it becomes a dos drive
[04:48] <kelsin> zynergi\: there is a server cd install that defaults to a command line system
[04:48] <zynergi\> ah, i see
[04:48] <Fezzler> usser: EZ to set up?  Sounds techi
[04:48] <zynergi\> i was unaware ;)
[04:48] <usser> Fezzler, but dosbox is just an emulator u need an actual operating system for dosbox to run ie linux or windows
[04:48] <zynergi\> would you recomend it over common debian?
[04:48] <usser> Fezzler, not really its not hard
[04:49] <eses> compizconfig-settings-manager is installed how to get the 3d desktop working
[04:49] <kelsin> zynergi\: depends on your needs
[04:49] <usser> eses, try compiz --replace in the terminal
[04:49] <Fezzler> h1st0: CP/M computer and old 8085/Z80 computers.  No room for Linux.  32k max rom/ram.  64k is a powerhouse :)
[04:49] <zynergi\> it's going to be running a webserver, as well as a few other database's
[04:49] <kelsin> zynergi\: check out the packages in the releases and pick for yourself, most methods for doing things are the same, so it's a matter of defaults and package versions
[04:49] <tomd123> zenergi\: there's a lot of variables that go into that question, i would first find out what you need and then look for them in specific distros
[04:49] <h1st0> Fezzler: hrm...
[04:49] <PwnageTV|Leviath> Yo, anybody got a minute to help with a weird monitor problem?
[04:49] <usser> Fezzler, nice keep it up this stuff will worth millions someday
[04:50] <zynergi\> well, it's pretty simple
[04:50] <zynergi\> im comming from freebsd
[04:50] <kelsin> zynergi\: yeah I meant your needs as in individual package requirements and versions, both can handle running a website with database
[04:50] <zynergi\> but, as time move's on, this new job i'm in requires a linux distro for a EMR (electronic medical records)
[04:50] <zynergi\> i used debian year's ago for server suites
[04:50] <zynergi\> but i've came out of the loop year's ago ;)
[04:50] <Fezzler> usser: I will tell you that in the years I've been collecting, good condition 8-bit computers with docs are getting tougher to find
[04:50] <zynergi\> ubuntu didn't exist back then ;-)
[04:51] <Fezzler> years ago they were plentiful
[04:51] <h1st0> ughh I remember MFM hard drives
[04:53] <usser> and audio tapes as storage
[04:53] <nickrud> heh. I sold my 8bit computer I spent about 4 grand on overall for $150 :)
[04:53] <zynergi\> sigh, i wish cpanel wasn't so sloppy.. and 'prettier'
[04:55] <kousotu> anyone know how to add desktops with COmpizfusion?
[04:56] <nickrud> looks like all ubuntu's problems are gone
[04:56] <Fezzler> Anyone capture video in Ubuntu (or should I take this question elsewhere like ubuntustudio channek)
[04:57] <mssever> kousotu: If you use CCSM, there's an option there for it...
[04:57] <kousotu> CCSM?
[04:57] <broken> Hey guys I Have a question, I want to use Photoshop Cs2 in ubuntu is this possible?
[04:57] <kousotu> broken: maybe with wine
[04:57] <Dr_willis> broken,  check the wine web sites to see how well it runs with wine
[04:58] <usser> broken, yes its gonna work with some limitations on wine
[04:58] <kelsin> broken: I've heard it's possible in wine, you should look at wine's appdb
[04:58] <kelsin> !appdb
[04:58] <ubotu> The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[04:58] <mssever> !ccsm | kousotu
[04:58] <ubotu> kousotu: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[04:58] <nickrud> broken: you'd be better off running xp in a virtual machine, really
[04:58] <broken> Alright thanks guys
[04:58] <broken> nickrud, well..
[04:58] <broken> I was doing that on anothe rbox with win2000
[04:58] <mariorz> whats up with the restricted in the repositories
[04:58] <broken> but it was too hectic
[04:58] <kousotu> mssever: where in that thouhg?
[04:58] <kousotu> I have that already
[04:58] <mariorz> what does restricted mean? is it a licence thing?
[04:59] <broken> to start vmware, to get out of it, plus you need quite a bit of ram.
[04:59] <mariorz> i.e. deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates main restricted universe
[04:59] <mssever> kousotu: One minute... I'm looking
[04:59] <kousotu> k
[04:59] <nickrud> broken: yeah, I added an extra gig just for that reason
[04:59] <kelsin> mariorz: yes, that software doesn't follow the guidelines to be included in main or universe
[04:59] <noor> Im having a bit of a problem here dumping the audio from a .flv file to a .mp3 file any one willing to help?
[04:59] <mssever> kousotu: General options > Desktop size tab
[04:59] <usser> noor, what tools are u using?
[05:00] <nickrud> !components | mariorz this link explains it pretty well
[05:00] <broken> nickrud, how much do you have?
[05:00] <nickrud> broken: 2g
[05:00] <ubotu> mariorz this link explains it pretty well: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:00] <noor> usser: i have the mp3 file but jesus christ its like 22 mins long @ 2.5 megs :(
[05:00] <broken> I have that amount in my new system..
[05:00] <mariorz> nickrud: cool thx
[05:00] <broken> nickrud,  do you think it will be good enough to use with vmware/xp photoshop?
[05:00] <usser> noor, right and how did u get it out of flv? what tool did u use?
[05:00] <broken> Probelm i had was the vmware-tools for better mouse, graphics and the likes.. were laggy sort of.
[05:00] <Fezzler> I'm getting into video and screen casts too.  Using recordmy desktop and Avidmux
[05:01] <nickrud> broken: I do it on a 1.6ghz dual athlon, runs well enough for my limited uses
[05:01] <Dr_willis> broken,  if it would work with win95/98 it may be easier on a low end system :)
[05:01] <kelsin> broken: I would try with wine first, following appdb's instructions then if you can't get it try vmware
[05:01] <noor> usser: mplayer i used "mplayer -dumpaudio filehere.flv
[05:01] <Khep9_> I need some info on how to run video out to my tv using all-in-wonder
[05:01] <eses> my 3ddesktop is still not working, how do I initiate it? :)
[05:01] <broken> Alright.
[05:01] <broken> I've had it with windows
[05:01] <usser> noor, oh ok do u have lame installed?
[05:01] <broken> Most retarded os i've ever used.
[05:01] <noor> lame? dont think so
[05:01] <Fezzler> Boy all the codec choices are confusing.  A whole new world!
[05:01] <noob101> hi , is there a tool for ubuntu that will identify what memory types do i have if it's a DDR or DDR2 or PC2700 or PC400 ?
[05:01] <noor> will that fix the problem?
[05:02] <grizzle> *sh
[05:02] <grizzle> Oops. Wrong window.
[05:02] <usser> noor, it just might
[05:02] <usser> noor, lame is an mp3 encoder
[05:02] <usser> noor, sorta :)
[05:02] <nickrud> noob101: lshw -C memory
[05:02] <noor> usser: actually i do have lame installed
[05:03] <nickrud> noob101: erm, sudo lshw -C memory , that is
[05:03] <kousotu> mssever: I set it to 4, still shows 1
[05:03] <Fezzler> All the how to books say dump my Hi-8 camcorder for a DV but Hi-8 is pretty good quality. 400 lines of resolution
[05:03] <eses> how to get direct rendering any one?
[05:04] <miyako> if I change the permissions on /dev/loop0 will that allow a non-root user to mount something on a loopback device?
[05:04] <usser> noor, oh ok well, may i suggest ffmpeg
[05:04] <nickrud> !dri | eses
[05:04] <ubotu> eses: dri is direct rendering infrastructure, a framework for allowing direct access to graphics hardware under the X Window System in a safe and efficient manner.
[05:04] <kousotu> ...
 : thank you
[05:04] <nickrud> eses: erm, that didn't give a link, a sec
[05:04] <kousotu> anyone know how to add desktops with Compizfusion? I set it to 4, it still only shows 1
[05:05] <noor> usser: tried that also lol XD
[05:05] <h1st0> kousotu: you have to change the hsize
[05:05] <usser> noor, yea ffmpeg is crippled by default in ubuntu
[05:05] <h1st0> kousotu: are you using ccsm?
[05:05] <usser> noor, or did u install the one from medibuntu repo?
[05:05] <kousotu> h1st0: yes. and I set H2 V2
[05:05] <nickrud> eses: what kind of video card?
[05:05] <h1st0> kousotu: let me check my settings hold up
[05:05] <kousotu> k
[05:06] <noor> usser: i used ermm Syinapatic manager
[05:06] <h1st0> kousotu: undder General options > Desktop Size tab change the HV size to 4 rest at 1.
[05:06] <usser> noor, right ok so u most likely have the cutoff version of it without mp3 support
[05:07] <usser> noor, here follow the guide on adding medibuntu repo https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[05:07] <eses> nickrud: SiS silicone intergrated systems, I'm on a laptop
[05:07] <noor> you know what ill do that right now with audacity
[05:07] <noor> Usser: thx for all the help man
[05:07] <usser> noor, np
[05:07] <noob101> description: DIMM SDRAM Synchronous  <---- what's this supposed to mean?
[05:07] <h1st0> kousotu: then turn on the desktop cube plugin rotate cube plugin
[05:08] <nickrud> eses: hm, according to http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/SiS you don't have it available
[05:08] <blackfox_> how to install software use wine at other folder
[05:08] <h1st0> blackfox_: ?
[05:08] <miyako> does anyone know off hand how I can change the permissions for using the loopback device?
[05:09] <blackfox_> i cant install file exe yet
[05:09] <Dr_willis> miyako,  it would depend on the filesystem the loopback is mounting.
[05:09] <kelsin> miyako: my /dev/loop* are set to rw to group disk, maybe add the users to the disk group?
[05:09] <kousotu> h1st0: I did, that does nothing
[05:09] <eses> nickrud: the how to get hardware acceleration?
[05:09] <kousotu> did*
[05:09] <miyako> kelsin: I'll give that a try
[05:10] <miyako> Dr_willis: I am just trying to mount an ext3 ramdisk into a directory
[05:10] <slackorama> anyone help me with getting administrator mode working in kubuntu system settings.  sudo works fine.  admin mode not so much.  no message in logs about auth failing.  it just silently fails it seems.
[05:10] <ljlolel> slackorama, you might not be allowed to do anything as sudo
[05:11] <ljlolel> >>>groups
[05:11] <ljlolel> what groups are you in?
[05:11] <ljlolel> are you in the sudo group? check /etc/sudoers
[05:11] <h1st0> kousotu: hold up i'm posting a ss
[05:11] <kousotu> k
[05:11] <slackorama> ljlolel: i can sudo just fine actually.  been installing packages all morning. it was working this AM.
[05:11] <ljlolel> oh
[05:12] <ljlolel> okay then i have no idea :)
[05:12] <h1st0> kousotu: http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/9821/screenshotsl8.png
[05:12] <eses> how to get hardware acceleration any one?
[05:12] <slackorama> ljlolel: i'm in the root group
[05:12] <ypsai> hi there. it is possible to use compiz fusion with via vga?
[05:12] <Dr_willis> eses,  depends on your video card/
[05:12] <ljlolel> i dont know why sudo would still work
[05:12] <Dr_willis> !nvidia | eses
[05:12] <ubotu> eses: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:12] <ljlolel> but then stop... so, like, "sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list" lets you edit it
[05:12] <nickrud> eses: dri is how xfree gives 3d acceleration, I don't think you can get it to work.
[05:12] <h1st0> kousotu: afk for a few brb
[05:13] <ljlolel> but "gksudo" in kde doesn't work?
[05:13] <miyako> ok, I added the user to the group disk and it still says: mount: only root can do that
[05:13] <fiXXXerMet> I've changed my hostname.  How do I generate new SSL Certs for Postfix (smtpd_tls_cert_file = /etc/postfix/ssl2/ca.crt and smtpd_tls_key_file = /etc/postfix/ssl2/ca.key and the others)?
[05:13] <kousotu> k
[05:13] <nickrud> eses: but the binarydriver page will have the latest
[05:13] <slackorama> ljlolel: yep, sudo vi works fine.
[05:13] <ljlolel> weird, good luck
[05:14] <slackorama> ljlolel: gksudo isn't installed for some reason.
[05:14] <slackorama> ljlolel: heh...thanks.
[05:15] <nickrud> ypsai: no, you need dri which doesn't work under vga
[05:15] <ljlolel> slackorama, wow, i unwittingly helped you, awesome
[05:15] <nickrud> miyako: after adding a user to a group, you have to log that user out and back in for the change to be recognized
[05:15] <ljlolel> slackorama, perhaps, this morning, a package borked gksudo for some reason
[05:16] <kousotu> nickrud: Compiz doesn't work under VGA?
[05:16] <ypsai> which vga work with dri
[05:16] <miyako> nickrud: a new login shell won't do it?
[05:16] <nDevastator> whats the command to register your nick ?
[05:16] <nickrud> miyako: not in my experience
[05:16] <kousotu> nDevastator: /ns register pass email
[05:16] <miyako> nickrud: hmm, ok; well I can use sudo for now
[05:16] <nickrud> !register | nDevastator
[05:16] <ubotu> nDevastator: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[05:17] <smooker_> my account smooker is bugged, i cant login with GNOME session, only Xfce :( when i type name and password yellow then black screen shows out, no panel, but with root  can login.
[05:17] <nickrud> kousotu: no
[05:17] <ljlolel> kousotu, compiz needs hardware acceleration --- vga is generic, knows nothing about 3d acceleration
[05:17] <mariorz> ehh so i installed apache 2 via aptitude?? ehrw eis apachectl? dpkg -L isnt helping
[05:17] <kousotu> nickrud: COmpiz is working for me under a vga card
[05:18] <matthh> Has anyone had any issues with dapper and USB/printing recently?
[05:18] <tntCry> smooker, whats diffrent from xfce or ubuntu?
[05:18] <miyako> smooker_: sounds like your gnome or gtk config is hosed or something, try moving your relevant config directories into some sort of backup directory and log in and let it recreate the defaults and see if that helps
[05:18] <matthh> My printer was working and now it stopped
[05:18] <h1st0> kousotu: does wobbly work?
[05:18] <nickrud> kousotu: you aren't using the vga driver then, but one with dri support
[05:18] <kousotu> at least that what I have to install for the Vindows Driver
[05:18] <kousotu> yep
[05:18] <h1st0> kousotu: did you ge the cube working.
[05:18] <kousotu> h1st0: nope
[05:18] <smooker_> can u explain what i have to do ?
[05:18] <slackorama> ljlolel: looks like it might be a bug in kde somewhere.  sudo kcontrol works from the command line.
[05:18] <h1st0> kousotu: do you have the cube plugins checked in ccsm?
[05:18] <smooker_> im using ubuntu from days ..
[05:18] <ljlolel> tnt63, xfce is really Xubuntu -- Ubuntu works on a lot of gnome goodies
[05:18] <kousotu> h1st0: yes, I do
[05:19] <ljlolel> slackorama, are you running hardy or something?
[05:19] <h1st0> kousotu: then holding ctrl+alt and dragging the desktop should work.  You might want to double check the keybindings under desktop cube plugin.
[05:19] <slackorama> ljlolel: nope, gutsy.
[05:19] <nickrud> smooker_: I had something similar; I logged out, did ctl-alt-f1, logged in, did killall gconfd-2 , then ps -A | grep gnome and killed all those as well. Then alt-f7 and logged back in
[05:20] <kousotu> h1st0: it doesn't
[05:20] <kousotu> that's still only 1 desktop
[05:20] <h1st0> nickrud: you could have just sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:20] <mariorz> Processing triggers for libc6 ...
[05:20] <nickrud> h1st0: heh, nice shortcut :0
[05:20] <h1st0> kousotu: check the key bindings under the general tab in desktop cube plguin.
[05:20] <mariorz> ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[05:20] <mariorz> what does that mean?
[05:20] <ljlolel> ctrl-alt-backspace
[05:20] <kousotu> h1st0: I haven't changed them
[05:21] <h1st0> nickrud: yeah or ctrl+alt+backspace
[05:21] <kousotu> oh goodie...
[05:21] <h1st0> kousotu: I know but just make sure something is atleast set that you are hitting maybe there is nothing in there?
[05:21] <nickrud> mariorz: ldconfig registers all the libraries that can be linked and used by an application
[05:21] <smookerPC1> so i have to logout ctl alt f1, then killall gconfd-2 then -a | grep mnogme then killall
[05:21] <kousotu> Alt+ super is "Draw on the screen"
[05:21] <smookerPC1> ?
[05:21] <kousotu> ok
[05:21] <kousotu> but can you tell me how to remove this drawing?
[05:21] <kousotu> lol
[05:22] <nickrud> smooker: or, use h1st0's suggestion, and do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart at the console
[05:22] <ljlolel> why can't smooker do ctrl-alt-backspace-- are you only killing gnome?
[05:22] <smookerPC1> i tryed to reboot pc but not works
[05:22] <mariorz> nickrud: i get that message after installing stuff, does that mean the install process isnt finished or something?
[05:22] <h1st0> kousotu: alt+super K
[05:23] <nickrud> mariorz: no, to save time a package tells dpkg that it has updated libraries, and dpkg waits till all packages are installed and then registers them all at once, instead of running it for each package
[05:23] <smookerPC1> brb
[05:23] <h1st0> kousotu: try hitting ctrl+alt+down
[05:24] <h1st0> kousotu: and keep holding ctrl+alt after letting down go
[05:24] <kousotu> h1st0: I don't know what I did, but now it's working
[05:24] <kousotu> lol
[05:24] <ridge-meister> anyone here into model railroading?  i'm new to it, i have a fascination with it, but not necessarily by choice
[05:24] <jamescarr> what format should I mount a data dvd disc burned under windows? I have no idea what format it is.. how can I find out?
[05:24] <h1st0> kousotu: the ctrl+alt down is workign or rotate is working also?
[05:24] <h1st0> !offtopic > ridge-meister (Please see the private message from ubotu)
[05:24] <kousotu> yes
[05:25] <h1st0> jamescarr: you can just mount it without specifying a format mount should be able to figure it out.
[05:25] <jamescarr> it cannot
[05:25] <ubuntu> hello
[05:25] <h1st0> kousotu: all is good then now.
[05:25] <ljlolel> why doesn't ubuntu ship with xchat by default anymore?
[05:25] <kousotu> I swear, things just wor when they feel like it..
[05:25] <h1st0> ubuntu: might want to change your nick.
[05:25] <nickrud> pidgin rules! (not)
[05:25] <jamescarr> [203146.580000] Unable to identify CD-ROM format.
[05:25] <h1st0> ljlolel: because of gaim/pidgin
[05:26] <h1st0> ljlolel: I just install irssi right off the rip.
[05:26] <h1st0> jamescarr: hrm...
[05:26] <ubuntu> is mediahunter here?
[05:26] <h1st0> jamescarr: doesn't it automount if you insert it?
[05:26] <h1st0> ubuntu: no
[05:26] <shinkamui> need some help
[05:26] <h1st0> !ask > shinkamui
[05:26] <shinkamui> just rebuilt my gutsy kernel
[05:26] <ubuntu> darn
[05:26] <kousotu> nickrud: what's wrong with pidgin?
[05:27] <h1st0> wow ubotu is slow to day.
[05:27] <shinkamui> when I reboot, It says can't mout root filesystem
[05:27] <h1st0> kousotu: pidgin blows for irc
[05:27] <shinkamui> first time I've built a kernel on a system with sata
[05:27] <nickrud> kousotu: for im it's ok, but I hate it's irc
[05:27] <kousotu> lol
[05:27] <h1st0> shinkamui: probably messed up the modules for your ide/sata controller
[05:27] <kousotu> I use konversation for IRC
[05:27] <Zhaozhou> shinkamui, sync it with output if lspci
[05:27] <h1st0> shinkamui: or the filesystems that the kernel recognizes
[05:27] <Fezzler> Do I have to register multiple times in some Freenode channels?
[05:27] <shinkamui> filesystem is ext3
[05:27] <shinkamui> I built that into the kernel and rebooted
[05:28] <h1st0> Fezzler: register what your nick?
[05:28] <Fezzler> Don't I register once and IDENTIFY each time one
[05:28] <shinkamui> I think you're right on the money with the sata controller
[05:28] <nickrud> shinkamui: if you made the ide drivers as modules, you need an initrd.img
[05:28] <h1st0> Fezzler: once you log in the freenode and identify yourself you are fine.
[05:28] <tntCry> guys im trying to burn .rm file in gnomebaker i get this error The plugin to handle a file of type application/vnd.rn-realmedia is not installed.
[05:28] <nickrud> or staa
[05:28] <Fezzler> I'm trying to participate in #blender and it says I need to register.  I am already
[05:28] <ljlolel> no, no, debian, and ubuntu, had xchat installed by default
[05:28] <ljlolel> so you can come to chatrooms like this and get help on stuff
[05:28] <ljlolel> it was invaluable for me when i started
[05:28] <LeenuxRawksAll> hello all
[05:29] <Zhaozhou> shinkamui, m8, google it. This is the most common error around the kernel, the answers everywhere.
[05:29] <h1st0> Fezzler: did you identify yet? /msg nickserv identify <password>  and you should get +ei
[05:29] <tomd123> ljlolel: they don't have it by default anymore
[05:29] <ljlolel> i know
[05:29] <ljlolel> hence my question
[05:29] <ljlolel> why
[05:29] <nickrud> debian had xchat!? I had to install vim, let alone xchat
[05:29] <Fezzler> h1st0 yup
[05:29] <h1st0> ljlolel: you can use pidgin to get here now.
[05:29] <ljlolel> ooooh
[05:29] <ljlolel> cool
[05:29] <ted0816> Hey, I have a question about Ubuntu and I am not so sure this is the place to ask, but anyways.  I installed Ubuntu 7.10 yesterday and did all the updates and restricted drivers and everything and today it crashed twice, both times I was using Firefox if that has anything to do with it.  Can someone help me?
[05:29] <h1st0> Fezzler: I have no problem joining that channel.
[05:30] <Fezzler> h1st0: no one is there anyway
[05:30] <h1st0> Fezzler: its showing you as in that channel
[05:30] <ljlolel> nickrud, I think it did?  I distinctly remember trying to fix debian cluelessly and going to xchat as a useful resource
[05:30] <h1st0> Fezzler: there are 50 ppl there
[05:30] <kousotu> Fezzler: sometimes FN seems to give false error like that
[05:30] <kousotu> I told the ircops about it
[05:30] <nickrud> ljlolel: maybe if you installed the desktop, I guess.
[05:31] <ljlolel> yes, the desktop
[05:31] <ted0816> Hmm, can someone help me?
[05:31] <nickrud> !ask | ted0816
[05:31] <ubotu> ted0816: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:31] <tomd123> nickrud: he asked his question, look in history
[05:31] <Fezzler> h1sto: in blender I'm shown as (+v Fezzler)
[05:31] <ljlolel> !asked
[05:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about asked - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:31] <ted0816>  I installed Ubuntu 7.10 yesterday and did all the updates and restricted drivers and everything and today it crashed twice, both times I was using Firefox if that has anything to do with it.  Can someone help me?
[05:31] <Doombringer> :)
[05:31] <ljlolel> !google asked
[05:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about google asked - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:32] <Doombringer> ;-)
[05:32] <ljlolel> !quote goog
[05:32] <tntCry> guys im trying to burn .rm file in gnomebaker i get this error The plugin to handle a file of type application/vnd.rn-realmedia is not installed.
[05:32] <Fezzler> NickServ says I am IDENTIFIED??
[05:32] <h1st0> !botabuse > ljlolel (Please see the private message from ubotu)
[05:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about quote goog - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:32] <smooker4> how can i change the icons default size ?
[05:32] <tntCry> should i convert the .rm's to wave ? with mplayer?
[05:32] <noobcoder> I have been looking most of the day for a dvd backup solution. I have tried dvdbackup but fails on most disks. I want a command line one any thoughts
[05:32] <nickrud> tomd123: ah, I see, ted0816 it's hard to say, I usually have crashes that are hardware related; I'd first run the memtest you see when you boot
[05:32] <h1st0> noobcoder: what are you trying to backup to dvd?
[05:32] <noobcoder> all my kids vids
[05:32] <LeenuxRawksAll> I don't think there's a linux port of Real Media...
[05:32] <LeenuxRawksAll> could be wrong tho
[05:32] <noobcoder> I an trying to rip them to the hd
[05:33] <tntCry> when typeing  mplayer -ao in terminal i could convert them
[05:33] <h1st0> noobcoder: so its just one folder?
[05:33] <noobcoder> I am trying todo what dvdshrink does in winblows
[05:33] <tntCry> is theyr a way to add  mplayer -ao to Nautalis-Script so i can right click and choose my option rather then typing them in terminal then choose an appropriate name
[05:34] <corruptionoflulz> noobcoder: try k9copy
[05:34] <smooker4> Winbozv
[05:34] <smooker4> xD
[05:34] <Doombringer> noobcoder: download xdvdshrink than.
[05:34] <noobcoder> :)
[05:34] <shinkamui> so in order to boot from a sata drive, It needs to be built into my kernel right?  not a module?
[05:34] <noobcoder> does k9copy have a command line ver
[05:34] <shinkamui> err, sata and the filesystem
[05:34] <h1st0> noobcoder: ahh
[05:34] <noobcoder> I am on ubuntu server
[05:34] <nickrud> shinkamui: thats the easiest way, yes
[05:34] <tntCry> can any1 help?
[05:34] <shinkamui> ok, rebuilding
[05:34] <h1st0> noobcoder: so copy a dvd not copy a video file to dvd
[05:35] <h1st0> noobcoder: well you can use those apps in linux with wine but let me look for an alternate clie program.
[05:35] <shinkamui> and to make sure of one more thing, in order to build the kernel I just need kernel-package and build-essential right, then config my kernel and type sudo make-kpkg kernel-image
[05:35] <LeenuxRawksAll> TnTCry: There is no Linux port of Real Media... you could try converting the files and then burning, that's my guess...
[05:35] <corruptionoflulz> k9copy...
[05:35] <shinkamui> then I can insatll the resulting package
[05:35] <noobcoder> thanks everyone
[05:35] <corruptionoflulz> k9copy get's past most encryption too.
[05:35] <LeenuxRawksAll> do a search with Google for "Linux Real Media Convert"
[05:35] <shinkamui> just want to be sure I haven't built an ubuntu kernel in quite a while, and Im used to the old way through slackware
[05:35] <nickrud> !kernel | shinkamui
[05:35] <ubotu> shinkamui: The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[05:35] <corruptionoflulz> gets*
[05:35] <Dr_willis> most encryption? Hmm how many kinds are there >? :0
[05:36] <corruptionoflulz> although, i did have to use dvddecrypter the other day
[05:36] <h1st0> noobcoder: so you only have command line right?
[05:36] <smooker4> and what if we compile our own kernel ? whats different ?
[05:36] <shinkamui> nickrud: then let me ask you this, I've very happy with the default kernel, but I can't build the intel IWLWIFI driver apparently without having first built the kernel.  How can I get around it
[05:36] <noobcoder> yea
[05:37] <smookerPC1> :)
[05:37] <Dr_willis> shinkamui,  if you install the proper kernel soruces you should be to compile a module/driver.