[00:02] <stef1a> does anyone have any idea why my touchpad might not be working in ubuntu 13.04?
[00:02] <stef1a> and unity? and sound?
[00:03] <phong_> ok vanishing
[00:03] <phong_> the worst i go back to 12.04
[00:03] <stef1a> phong_: me?
[00:03] <vanishing> ye
[00:04] <stef1a> oh
[00:04] <th0r> stef1a: you might look at the command line utility synclient. Among other things it can tell you how all the settings are set
[00:04] <phong_> vanishing, http://askubuntu.com/questions/290904/vmware-9-install-not-opening-after-extraction-on-13-04
[00:04] <Ari-Yang> phong_, well it wouldn't be the worst, especially if vmware works out just fine (not to mention it being LTS)
[00:05] <vanishing> phong_: ok..let me reconnect again
[00:05] <phong_> ok
[00:06] <phong_> same info
[00:06] <phong_> pass
[00:08] <noiro> any way to make window buttons/bars, etc bigger in KDE? They look oober tiny atm
[00:09] <nimbiotics> Hello evry1. I installed package, uninstalled it and now, when I try to install it again it just does not work. I get some warnings (http://paste.ubuntu.com/5698673/) and the program shows in the applications menu, but it just does not start. When i try to start from CL I get some warnings and finally a "not found"message (http://paste.ubuntu.com/5698679/). I already used "apt-get --purge...
[00:09] <nimbiotics> ...remove". Can some please help me solve this?? TIA!
[00:10] <Ari-Yang> noiro, there's a #KDE channel
[00:10] <Ari-Yang> in case nobody here knows the answer
[00:11] <th0r> nimbiotics: from the paste it looks like it pretty well completed
[00:11] <zisvv> i my name is GamerKitten, I'm 40 years old and I'm mother of two children. I have HIV and I would like to invite you to my channel #wrongplanet.   I have HIV and I would like to invite you to my channel #wrongplanet.  Thank you -- Michelle Enfieldolx qbxdgcg om hkrbgbahjl yhowroiyu
[00:11] <pnbjb> i my name is GamerKitten, I'm 40 years old and I'm mother of two children. I have HIV and I would like to invite you to my channel #wrongplanet.   I have HIV and I would like to invite you to my channel #wrongplanet.  Thank you -- Michelle Enfieldolx qbxdgcg om hkrbgbahjl yhowroiyu
[00:11] <zisvv> i my name is GamerKitten, I'm 40 years old and I'm mother of two children. I have HIV and I would like to invite you to my channel #wrongplanet.   I have HIV and I would like to invite you to my channel #wrongplanet.  Thank you -- Michelle Enfieldbxgzpysopa lajqfm
[00:11] <pnbjb> i my name is GamerKitten, I'm 40 years old and I'm mother of two children. I have HIV and I would like to invite you to my channel #wrongplanet.   I have HIV and I would like to invite you to my channel #wrongplanet.  Thank you -- Michelle Enfieldbxgzpysopa lajqfm
[00:11] <FloodBot1> zisvv: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:11] <zisvv> i my name is GamerKitten, I'm 40 years old and I'm mother of two children. I have HIV and I would like to invite you to my channel #wrongplanet.   I have HIV and I would like to invite you to my channel #wrongplanet.  Thank you -- Michelle Enfieldabl itj nkrtkqmuww vluvnj
[00:11] <pnbjb> i my name is GamerKitten, I'm 40 years old and I'm mother of two children. I have HIV and I would like to invite you to my channel #wrongplanet.   I have HIV and I would like to invite you to my channel #wrongplanet.  Thank you -- Michelle Enfieldabl itj nkrtkqmuww vluvnj
[00:11] <FloodBot1> pnbjb: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:12] <|s-a|> interesting
[00:13] <nimbiotics> th0r: No, it does not work, in spite of what it looks like
[00:15] <th0r> nimbiotics: have you tried starting it from the applications menu? It may require a start script that you aren't running from the command line.
[00:16] <nimbiotics> th0r: as I said in my original post; it does not start when I try the applications menu & I get no feedback whatsoever
[00:16] <binBlob> Hi, I've got a major problem, my frigging new lenovo y580 hangs after the syslinux 4.03 ... blabla H. Peter anvin if I try to boot a usb drive
[00:16] <th0r> nimbiotics: does the .desktop file call megacloud like you do in the paste?
[00:17] <nimbiotics> th0r: yes
[00:17] <Bernardes> Please, I need to replace mass accents in the names of my files how to do?
[00:17] <Bernardes> ex9t_: / home / john / Linkin Park - mÚiãT.mp3 to / home / john / link park muiat.mp3
[00:18] <Bernardes> can someone help me?
[00:18] <binBlob> sed could maybe help you
[00:18] <Bernardes> yes
[00:19] <Bernardes> more i dont have the script could help me?
[00:19] <binBlob> ufff sed is too difficult form me and the manpage is shit ;/ you have too google you way into this one
[00:20] <th0r> nimbiotics: the errors it throws regarding /usr/bin/megacloud are programming errors. Those things could be set up by a startup script before calling megacloud, but you say there is no call for one so....my guess would be that the package leaves something to be desired.
[00:21] <Bernardes> th0r, Sed you know?
[00:21] <th0r> Bernardes: nope
[00:21] <Bernardes> th0r, ok
[00:22] <Bernardes> Please, I need to replace mass accents in the names of my files how to do? ex: /home/john/LinkinPark-mÚiãT.mp3 to /home/john/link park muiat.mp3
[00:23] <cogy_> halo
[00:23] <th0r> I would love to find out why I keep getting dumped from irc
[00:23] <cogy_> why when i type sudo apt-get install kde-plasma-desktop
[00:23] <nimbiotics> th0r: no doubt about it ... but it was working before. I uninstalled trying to find out a the culprit for some other issue I was having
[00:23] <cogy_> its always Unable to locate package kde-plasma-desktop
[00:23] <cogy_> ?
[00:24] <cogy_> and the installation is fail
[00:24] <cogy_> is it repository problem??
[00:24] <cogy_> i use ubuntu 12.04
[00:25] <th0r> cogy_: it is in the universe repo I think. Make sure you have universe enabled
[00:25] <cogy_> some one help me
[00:26] <cogy_> hm
[00:26] <syntroPi> is it possible to disable rootwindow drawing in gnome 3 completely so i could let it draw eg with mplayer?
[00:27] <th0r> cogy_: no pm
[00:28] <tan2013> join #bullogger
[00:36] <daftykins> hrmm on server 12.04 what replaced 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart' ? is it 'sudo service networking restart' or...?
[00:38] <elisa87> larsdoes this sound about right? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5698755/
[00:39] <lykkelamen> Hello. I think I F'ed up my xorg.conf in some way, and now I can only boot into text-only mode
[00:40] <lykkelamen> Is there anything obvoius I could do to fix it?
[00:40] <|s-a|> lykkelamen , rm -f /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:41] <unknown__> try startx
[00:41] <binBlob> does s1 know how I can burn multiple bootable isos on one dvd ?
[00:42] <onitaL> Hello, if I select "Changes throught the day" in All Settings/Apparence, where does Unit pull the wallpapares from?
[00:42] <th0r> binBlob: I don't think that is possible
[00:42] <lykkelamen> when I run startx it says "Fatal server error, no screens found"
[00:42] <th0r> binBlob: you can store more than one if they are small enough, but you can't burn them
[00:42] <lykkelamen> |s-a|: Already tried that
[00:42] <IdleOne> binBlob: http://www.sarducd.it/multiboot-dvd-builder.html I used this once, worked pretty good.
[00:43] <|s-a|> lykkelamen , any errs before that no screens found ?
[00:44] <binBlob> IdleOne: thanks gonna look into this one
[00:44] <lykkelamen> |s-a|: A lot, but I cant scroll, so I cant see it
[00:45] <bobsamfredricks> ok, this is an embarrassingly lame question, but when i'm using the folder / file browser in ubuntu 12.04lts, how do i get it to show me details instead of icons? and i want it to be like this all the time, even when i log out / in
[00:45] <elisa87> is this line right? CC_FLAG = -g -fopenmp -O2 -static -lgomp -pthread
[00:45] <|s-a|> lykkelamen , sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/X.0.log
[00:46] <|s-a|> !pastebinit
[00:46] <|s-a|> nice :D
[00:46] <usr13> lykkelamen: You can't scoll up?  Did you try Shift-UpArrow or Shift-PageUp?
[00:47] <zykotick9> |s-a|: just a guess, but do you mean /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[00:47] <lykkelamen> |s-a|: paste.ubuntu.com/5698777
[00:47] <|s-a|> zykotick9 , yeah
[00:48] <|s-a|> !xorg-intel
[00:48] <usr13> lykkelamen: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log  #And send us resulting URL, we'll have a look.
[00:49] <lykkelamen> usr13: Just linked it to |s-a|.
[00:49] <lykkelamen> usr13: paste.ubuntu.com/5698777
[00:49] <sam113101> when I open the dash and click on photos, it's empty, which folder is it using?
[00:49] <|s-a|> !xserver-xorg-video-intel
[00:49] <sam113101> I have pictures inside my Pictures folder
[00:50] <lykkelamen> usr13, |s-a|: Does it work? I cant check it, no browser
[00:50] <|s-a|> lykkelamen , yeah , you have to install xorg-intel or something like that , maybe xserver-xorg-video-intel
[00:50] <lykkelamen> |s-a|: ok. I'll try that
[00:53] <usr13> !info xserver-xorg-video-intel
[00:53] <usr13> lykkelamen:   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^66
[00:54] <usr13> Should have been installed by default, I think.
[00:54] <sam113101> when I open the dash and click on photos, it's empty, which folder is it using?
[00:54] <sere> yea it installs by ddefault
[00:55] <usr13> sam113101: ~/Pictures   maybe?
[00:55] <sam113101> my Pictures folder isn't empty, though
[00:56] <usr13> sam113101: Well, I don't know what photos is in the dash but just try the file manager.
[00:56] <sam113101> "Search Photos"
[00:58] <usr13> sam113101: (Sorry but I use xfce/thunar and I guess it's a bit simpler for me :)
[00:59] <usr13> sam113101: (I don't Search Photos, I just view 'em.)
[01:00] <sam113101> I use my file manager too, but it just seems broken
[01:00] <sam113101> that's why I ask
[01:00] <IdleOne> Photos should be a symlink to ~/pictures
[01:00] <peyam> Hi
[01:00] <usr13> IdleOne: you mean ~/Pictures ?
[01:00] <peyam> Im using xubuntu 12.10 and every time want to see a youtube video firefox crashes
[01:01] <IdleOne> usr13: yeah.
[01:01] <peyam> while Im skyping
[01:01] <Guest23195> peyam , just launch firefox from terminal and when it crashes give us the errors
[01:01] <IdleOne> peyam: sounds like a flash issue. try www.youtube.com/html5 and see if it still crashes
[01:02] <peyam> IdleOne: You are not currently in the HTML5 trial.
[01:02] <IdleOne> peyam: join it :)
[01:02] <usr13> For questions about Firefox,  /join #firefox
[01:03] <binBlob> its more about flash than firefox i guess
[01:03] <peyam> IdleOne: not videos plays slowly and it doesnt  come any sound from it
[01:04] <IdleOne> peyam: :(
[01:04] <binBlob> kill the plugin container reload the site
[01:04] <peyam> shoudl I uninstall flashplayer?
[01:04] <IdleOne> no, skype needs it iirc
[01:05] <binBlob> see if the killing helps .. if not than you can try purging it
[01:05] <peyam> how do I kill it
[01:05] <binBlob> ctrl  + esc .. search for plugin container
[01:06] <peyam> I disable shockwave player
[01:06] <peyam> still nosound
[01:07] <binBlob> did you disable the flash plugin or did you kill the plugin container process ?
[01:08] <gabb> hi, I'm having problems installing ubuntu 2.04 from wubi, can anyone help me?
[01:08] <peyam> I disable shockwave player
[01:08] <peyam> I run xubuntu. ctrl+esc give ther xubuntu menu
[01:09] <binBlob> without flash there is no video and audio ... so you have to enable it again
[01:10] <peyam> binBlob: I did it now
[01:10] <binBlob> if flash still not does what it should you could try purging and reinstalling it ... but I don't think  this will solve your problem
[01:10] <elky> can someone tell me ow to get out of rhytmbox party mode plzkthx
[01:11] <peyam> binBlob: why can I hear anything while camming on skype?
[01:11] <peyam> that's the main issue
[01:11] <binBlob> peyam: thats not flash related than, check you audio settings
[01:12] <lasindi> Does anyone here use Empathy for IRC? When I try to add my account, it immediately shows a dialog that says applications can no longer access my freenode online account, and the "Grant access" button shows up again. (I guess this isn't an Empathy specific problem (more like a Unity settings problem), but that's the only reason I can see for doing this.)
[01:15] <binBlob> peyam: do you hear anything at all ?
[01:22] <peyam> How do I fix it
[01:22] <peyam> kils me
[01:25] <gabb> installed ubuntu on win 8 with wubi but it doesn't let me boot it? can anyone help?
[01:25] <branco> hi
[01:25] <ObrienDave> don't use wubi
[01:26] <branco> i use backbox
[01:27] <syntroPi> what on earth is wrong with alsa/pulse? there is one issue after the other...
[01:27] <ObrienDave> i don't know Win8 but why not just install via live cd?
[01:27] <branco> i am newbe
[01:27] <gabb> so shall i do the standard usb installation instead of wubi?
[01:28] <syntroPi> first no hdmi sound for nvidia drivers, then crackling sound with skype, now with updated skype no sound AT ALL :-/
[01:29] <syntroPi> Does someone use Skype <IP_ADDRESS> on x64 ubuntu raring with working pulse/alsa?
[01:29] <branco> so aiai
[01:29] <binBlob> your not alone peyam hase the same problem as it seems
[01:29] <ObrienDave> gabb: I did a dual boot with win7. rarely use Win anymore ;)
[01:30] <elisa87> I need to convert this alpha assembly to x86 assembly. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5698864/
[01:30] <ObrienDave> I run Xubuntu. haven't looked back in 2 years :))
[01:31] <ObrienDave> syntro: yes, i use skype that way
[01:31] <gabb> dual boot?
[01:31] <ObrienDave> gabb: yes, i have the option of booting either through GRUB
[01:32] <binBlob> well i always look back to win if i want to connect damn frigging second display ... not even talking about 3 or 4 ... ;(
[01:32] <ObrienDave> brb
[01:32]  * ObrienDave is away: Snoozin
[01:34]  * ObrienDave is back (gone 00:01:31)
[01:34] <ObrienDave> gabb: have you tried the live cd?
[01:37] <binBlob> IdleOne: sardu is damn nice ;)
[01:37] <FreezingCold> This is a really weird question, how can I just boot the kernel and then use a network drive as root?
[01:40] <branco> alguem fala porgugues?
[01:40] <dominic_> llo
[01:41] <dominic_> what would it change for me to learn how to control the shelll like terminal
[01:43] <binBlob> win shell like linux terminal ??
[01:44] <FreezingCold> dominic_: uh what...
[01:44] <ObrienDave> gabb: still there?
[01:44] <noiro> Ratio so far: 10 questions asked: 2 answered
[01:44] <FreezingCold> dominic_: using the terminal isn't harder, it's easier
[01:44] <FreezingCold> noiro: so?
[01:46] <dominic_> i dont see how
[01:47] <dominic_> if i want to change a setting , it takes me 2 sec with unity
[01:47] <ObrienDave> dominic: once you get used to it, it's easier
[01:47] <FreezingCold> donvito: bingo, then keep using Unity
[01:47] <FreezingCold> dominic_: don't use the terminal for the sake of using the terminal. Only use it if you actually want to
[01:48] <FreezingCold> as you use Linux longer and longer you'll probably find yourself there
[01:49] <dominic_> can i program with the terminal
[01:49] <rypervenche> dominic_: You sure can. Some programs have command line ways to do things, otherwise you can simply start the GUI program from the command line.
[01:49] <tanstaafl> dominic: yes you can, python console, vim, etc.  I find myself scripting there or quick fixing classes frequeently
[01:50] <branco> use g++  c language
[01:50] <jdubs> hey guys. i've run into a problem running xubuntu. installation was great, been using it for a couple days
[01:50] <tanstaafl> also, if you aren't ready to dive into vim, you can just use nano or pico
[01:50] <dominic_> what would be the first step
[01:50] <jdubs> upon reboot today, it went to memtest
[01:50] <jdubs> and im stuck there
[01:50] <jdubs> i can't boot back into xubuntu
[01:51] <tanstaafl> dominic: first step to programming in terminal?
[01:51] <dominic_> yes
[01:52] <tanstaafl> dominic: 1. learn how to program.  2.  build a dev environment that can work with terminal (gcc, g++, gdb), find a terminal editor you like (vim, nano, etc), then program
[01:52] <orangecat> Any python coders here?
[01:52] <ObrienDave> jdubs: you might need to re-configure GRUB
[01:52] <jdubs> using a usb booter, i've gotten into recovery.
[01:52] <jdubs> i have access to root
[01:53] <energizer> Hello. I'm trying to set up a media server. Unless I set my storage HDD  permissions to o=rx, MediaTomb won't find the files and folders, even though they're owned by energizer and chromium is owned by energizer. What am I missing?
[01:53] <jdubs> in /boot/ all i see grub, memtest+86.bin and memtest86+_multiboot.bin
[01:53] <jdubs> how should i go about re-conf'ing grub?
[01:54] <dr_willis> energizer:  what fs is the storage hd using? is it a external usb hd?
[01:54] <ObrienDave> i'm not real real strong on GRUB, i use grub-customizer
[01:54] <dr_willis> !fixgrub
[01:55] <energizer> dr_willis its attached in the machine. ext4.
[01:56] <dr_willis> energizer:  so its mounted via fstab to like /media/storage?
[01:56] <energizer> I'm pretty new at all this. Is MediaTomb/Plex (server programs) running as a user other than energizer?
[01:56] <energizer> dr_willis ya
[01:56] <dr_willis> Plex and medatomb are differnt services/tools.. I think they can run as a user. or as a stand alone service
[01:57] <dr_willis> theres also ushare, and minidlna   for upnp servers
[01:58] <dr_willis> ive been using plex lately, but on a windows machine.
[01:59] <dr_willis> xbmc can also work as a dlna/upnp server.
[01:59] <energizer> So I think I'm having a more fundamental problem than just the server software. if i run MediaTomb or Plex from Unity, it opens ip:port in chrome, and it fails to see any contents of the HDD unless HDD has Other permissions.
[02:00] <dr_willis> what other permissions? you set teh permissions once.. and gthey should stick
[02:00] <yujia0513> Hi,everybody
[02:01] <Random832> dr_willis: I think he meant Other as in User, Group, Other
[02:01] <energizer> ya
[02:01] <yujia0513> How can i search *news* in emphaty(i joined freenode irc room)
[02:02] <yujia0513> ubuntu 12.04 LTS,empathy <IP_ADDRESS>,,,,
[02:02] <jdubs> i have an iso of the same xubuntu i installed. through it i go into recovery mode. i re-installed the grub with no effect. is there some way i can just recompile/install the kernel?
[02:02] <dr_willis> the dlna servers may be running as thir own seperate user. that would make sence for a service
[02:02] <dr_willis> jdubs:  tried the boot-repair tool ?
[02:03] <jdubs> boot-repair?
[02:03] <dr_willis> you can chroot into the installed system and install kernels and other packages..   but that  may not fix the grub issues
[02:03] <dr_willis> !fixgrub
[02:03] <ObrienDave> that could work
[02:03] <dr_willis> boot-repair tool is mentioned in the fix grub wiki pages
[02:04] <jdubs> i already rreinstalled the grub boot loader
[02:04] <dr_willis> if you havent tried it.. thats the first thing i would try
[02:04] <yujia0513> LIST *news*
[02:04] <yujia0513> it doesn't work...
[02:04] <dr_willis> yujia0513:  what?
[02:04] <dr_willis> !alis
[02:04] <jdubs> yeah, i all ready tried that, dr_willis
[02:04] <ObrienDave> yujia: prefix commands with /
[02:04] <jdubs> no affect
[02:04] <yujia0513> I can't search rooms in empathy.
[02:05] <dr_willis> use the alis bot yujia0513
[02:05] <dr_willis> using the /list command can  be bad. ;) due to the HUGE size of list output
[02:06] <madprops> irssi requires you to add a -YES to use /list
[02:06] <madprops> precisely for that reason I guess
[02:06] <dr_willis> yep
[02:06] <madprops> I wonder if there's a command to filter the list, if not there should be
[02:07] <dr_willis> thats why the alis bot was invented. ;)
[02:07] <dr_willis> moves the filtering off to the alis bot/server
[02:08] <yujia0513> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/TermsOfService----------thanks very much,ubottu,it works.....thanks again...
[02:08] <dr_willis> !bot
[02:09] <daftykins> hey guys, how do i change the owner of folder 'x' to 'user'? "sudo chown..." ?
[02:10] <dr_willis> chown bubba.bubba folder
[02:10] <dr_willis> !permiaaions
[02:10] <daftykins> of course
[02:10] <dr_willis> !permissions
[02:10] <daftykins> thanks dr_willis :>
[02:10] <jrib> daftykins: use : instead of . (both will work but . is deprecated I believe)
[02:10] <dr_willis> this isent on a ntfs or vfat partition is it?
[02:11] <daftykins> jrib: ja, i did think that was what i used in the past - thanks
[02:12] <omnizya> hello
[02:12] <energizer> what does the plus mean in drwxr--r--+
[02:13] <omnizya> I wanna customize the menu on gnome-panel, can i get help?
[02:14] <dr_willis> customize in  wat way? you mean in the fallback gnome classic mode?
[02:15] <omnizya> i wanna change the menu
[02:15] <dr_willis> well yes.. customize would mean to change.. give us details would help us help you.
[02:15] <omnizya> make my own application list with categories
[02:15] <energizer> dr_willis what does the plus mean?  "drwxr--r--+ 2 energizer energizer 4096 May 19 19:52 f1"
[02:16] <dr_willis> energizer:  cant say ive ever noticed that
[02:16] <energizer> dr_willis aite thanks
[02:18] <omnizya> how the menu is organized automaticlly
[02:18] <dr_willis> omnizya:  im GUESSING you mean the 'applications' menu because you wont give details and ''menu' is vague..
[02:19] <dr_willis> omnizya:  everh menu item/app has a corasponding   .desktop file   ie:   gedit.desktop    gvim.desktop   gnome-terminal.desktop  that define the menu info for that application
[02:19] <blebaford> Hey guys I just tried to log out of my session and my computer is stuck at a black screen with some white text that says "* Checking battery state...", "* Stopping System V runlevel compatibility", followed 7 lines starting with [ OK ]. Theres a blinking cursor and I don't know what I should do.
[02:19] <dr_willis> i belive the format of the .desktop files is defined at the freedesktop.org site/specs
[02:20] <omnizya> yes
[02:20] <dr_willis> blebaford:  most likely its shut down.. but dident power off.. press/hold the power key to actually power off
[02:20] <genii-around> blebaford: Were you going to shut down or log in as another user?
[02:20] <energizer> Is it considered safe to set all the folders in a storage HDD to o+rx and all the files to o+r?
[02:20] <ObrienDave> bleabford: press CTRL-C
[02:21] <omnizya> all right
[02:21] <dr_willis> energizer:  a diretory has to be 'x' in order for people to access the contents.. so if you want 'others' to access whts IN the folder.. it HAS to be o+rx   i belive
[02:21] <blebaford> genii-around: I'm pretty sure I was just logging out to log back in.
[02:21] <genii-around> blebaford: ctrl-alt-f1, login to console. sudo restart lightdm
[02:22] <djapo> can't get keyboard to pair at boot i have bluetooth enabled via systemctl and i have added the keyboard to trusted in /var/lib/bluetooth/[bluetoothaddr]/trusted
[02:22] <deezed> hey guys, I had a problem with my ubuntu here, so I'm gonna reinstall it all, I was just wondering which directories should I backup to mantain my configurations?
[02:22] <blebaford> dr_willis: I wasn't intending to turn off the power, just log out. I could just hit the power button but I'd like to prevent this issue from recurring.
[02:22] <genii-around> blebaford: If f1 doesn't work, try f2
[02:22] <daftykins> deezed: just your /home
[02:22] <tanstaafl> is there a way to handle "dpkg: error processing icaclient:i386 (--configure):" without using dpkg --purge?
[02:22] <daftykins> deezed: unless you use any crazy programs that don't store user configuration in the user area :D
[02:22] <dr_willis> blebaford:  so you selected  'logout' ?  from the menus? if so see if theres still consoles running on alt-ctrl-f1 through f6
[02:23] <deezed> daftykins: thanks! so when I install it again all my configs will be safe, even desktop colors and keyboard shortcuts?
[02:23] <rmobenchain> upon bootup, I keep receiving the following message.  udevd [110]:timeout: 'sbin/blkid -o udev -p /dev/sde' [319].  Have I killed my compuer?
[02:23] <dr_willis> blebaford:  ive seen some issues ages ago with some drivers that would crash on trying to exit X
[02:23] <daftykins> deezed: ooh, i'm not 100% about the desktop stuff actually. anyone else?
[02:23] <dr_willis> rmobenchain:  depends on wht 'sde' is..
[02:24] <yujia0513> there is other questions...can i close the "ChanServ" windows?
[02:24] <dr_willis> deezed:  all user settings are kept in the users home
[02:24] <blebaford> genii-around: was able to log in with the cli, then when I try sudo restart lightdm, I get "restart: Unknown instance:"
[02:24] <dr_willis> yujia0513:  yes. its just a bot msging you in a window.
[02:24] <genii-around> blebaford: So then sudo start lightdm
[02:24] <deezed> daftykins: oh, so my softwares will be safe? or will I have to reinstall them all as well?
[02:24] <dr_willis> blebaford:  'sudo service lightdm restart;'  perhaps
[02:24] <dr_willis> oops  no ;
[02:24] <omnizya> have you any idea to re-build customized version of ubuntu or debian distro?
[02:24] <genii-around> dr_willis: No, it's not a sysvinit job
[02:25] <deezed> dr_willis: thanks!
[02:25] <rmobenchain> <dr willis> well, I also get this error message.  Input/Output error read on /dev/sda
[02:25] <dr_willis> deezed:  user SETTING files arre in their home.. apps you instgalled on the system  via the package manager tools are NOT stored in the users home.
[02:25] <dr_willis> err.. i use 'sudo servicce lightdm restart' all the time
[02:25] <blebaford> genii-around: I did that and now I am taken back to the same screen I was stuck at, with the same text.
[02:25] <daftykins> deezed: you'd definitely need to know what packages you've installed, keeping /home just has the configuration files to make those programs run the same. for example if you use an IRC client Xchat, the config of what servers to connect to / channels to join will be in your /home but on a clean installation you'd need to reinstall Xchat
[02:26] <yujia0513> thanks dr_willis...
[02:26] <genii-around> blebaford: The login screen worked when you originally booted?
[02:26] <blebaford> genii-around: yes
[02:27] <deezed> Uhm!! got it!! thanks a lot u guys!
[02:27] <genii-around> blebaford: Did you run updates before logging out?
[02:27] <blebaford> genii-around: I think so
[02:28] <genii-around> blebaford: It's conceivable there was some update to lightdm, although unlikely. If you ctrl-alt-f1 (or f2) again and put apt-cache policy lightdm    ...it shows as installed?
[02:29] <blebaford> genii-around: yes it's installed. 1.2.3-0ubuntu2
[02:29] <yujia0513> I already favorite "#ubuntu" and "##English",and I can see the two rooms in "Manage Favorite Rooms",but I can't understand what is "Auto-connect" meanings....
[02:30] <yujia0513> is it mean "when I starton ubuntu" or "when I starton empathy"...or elas
[02:31] <genii-around> blebaford: Does: ps -el | grep 'Z'        show anything?
[02:32] <blebaford> genii-around: just the header line with SZ in it (for size)
[02:32] <genii-around> OK, so no zombies
[02:33] <genii-around> blebaford: Does ps aux | grep lightdm    ...show it as currently running?
[02:34] <blebaford> genii-around: yes
sorry, had to make a call. u still there?
[02:35] <ObrienDave> sure
[02:35] <FearGod> did you know god can kill you?
[02:35] <FearGod> http://believeintheholybible.blogspot.com/
[02:36] <i3luefire_> fuk gawd
[02:36] <yujia0513> hi,guys,i need help with a very simple thing if I may close the "Topic:******************"
[02:36] <genii-around> blebaford: Sometimes it starts on console other than 7. Try ctrl-alt-  then with f6, then with f7 (normally the one it should be on) , then f8   . If no login on any of these, go back to the console you were in before
[02:36] <FearGod> you just blasphmed
[02:36] <i3luefire_> yep
[02:36] <yujia0513> may I ?
[02:36] <FearGod> your going to hell blaspheme is an unforgivable sin
[02:37] <i3luefire_> oh nos
[02:37] <tanstaafl> is there a way to handle "dpkg: error processing icaclient:i386 (--configure):" without using dpkg --purge?
[02:37] <gabb> Do I have to access mi BIOS to install from a live cd?
[02:37] <genii-around> i3luefire_: Also, please watch the profanity in here whether it's directed at deities or not
[02:37] <blebaford> genii-around: both f7 and f8 show the same screen which I was stuck at originally
[02:38] <i3luefire_> oops. sorry bout the language
[02:38] <ObrienDave> gabb, only to make it boot from the CD first. does it do that now?
[02:38] <rublind> how do I get it so the 'do-release-upgrade' message goes away? I'm already on 13.04...
[02:38] <genii-around> blebaford: OK. So I would try now: sudo stop lightdm   ... and then see if ps aux| grep lightdm      still shows it
[02:39] <yujia0513> :-O
[02:39] <ItsMeLenny> hello, I have this problem where my ubuntu keeps freezing, and I have to do a hard reboot, this seems to happen a lot sometimes then stops after some kernal updates then starts again after other ones (but im not actually sure if thats the problem)
[02:39] <blebaford> genii-around: after that, lightdm is gone
[02:39] <ObrienDave> gabb: will it boot from USB stick?
[02:40] <gabb> the thing is I tried to acces my Bios the other day on my ASUS laptop but I couldn't, even tried all the fkeys but didn't have luck
[02:40] <genii-around> blebaford: Ok. Very odd. Are you using proprietary video driver like fglrx or nvidia?
[02:40] <gabb> that's why I decided to use wubi
[02:41] <ObrienDave> you can try INS, HOME, DEL. could be any one of the keys
[02:41] <ObrienDave> gabb, have you booted from either USB or CD or DVD?
[02:41] <blebaford> genii-around: Not sure. I know I don't have nvidia graphics.
[02:42] <gabb> supposedly i should be able to access it with the f2 key, according tu asus support
[02:42] <gabb> no, haven't tried
[02:42] <bassam> hello guys, my chromium keeps refreshing
[02:42] <bassam> can you help?
[02:43] <genii-around> blebaford: Does:  grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf    ... show anything, or it says the file doesn't exist?
[02:43] <ObrienDave> gabb, try burning the ISO to DVD first. most 'puters are set up to boot from optical media already
[02:44] <blebaford> genii-around: doesn't exist
[02:44] <bassam> grep: /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory
[02:44] <bassam> grep: /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory
[02:44] <genii-around> blebaford: OK. So at this point I'm out of immediate ideas other than a reboot and then see if the problem persists
[02:45] <vn151502510> bassam: refreshing with all url?
[02:45] <genii-around> bassam: You have to put something in between the grep and the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:45] <blebaford> genii-around: alright I'll give it a go.
[02:45] <branco> ola pessoal nao consigo ligar a vidalia do tor time out
[02:45] <bassam> all sites
[02:45] <genii-around> blebaford: You can do: sudo sync && sudo shutdown -r now
[02:46] <gabb> ok, I'll unistall the ubuntu that I can't seem to boot and try the live cd option
[02:46] <gabb> thanks for your help
[02:46] <vn151502510> bassam: I dont get it. refresh like press F5?
[02:47] <ObrienDave> no, you can leave it there and use the live DVD to update your install
[02:47] <ObrienDave> just MAKE SURE you update the proper partition
[02:48] <ObrienDave> it should detect your current install. just make sure
[02:49] <ObrienDave> gabb, you catch that?
[02:50] <gabb> ok
[02:50] <ObrienDave> cool, good luck
[02:50] <gabb> I'm just worried I can't access my BIOS
[02:51] <ObrienDave> gabb, what brand and model # ?
[02:52] <ObrienDave> ok, you said ASUS, what model?
[02:52] <gabb> it's an asusQ500
[02:54] <ObrienDave> gabb, use DEL key to enter BIOS
[02:54] <ObrienDave> http://www.asus.com/999/html/events/mb/images/mb_features/ezflash01.gif
[02:55] <ObrienDave> gabb, sorry ALT-F2 then DEL
[02:56] <gabb> must be the combination 'cause i tried f2 and del, but none worked
[02:56] <blebaford> genii-around: well I did sudo reboot. now I am having a problem that I couldn't fix yesterday: I get a black screen at startup. The computer isn't responsive to anything but pressing the power button, which makes it show the ubuntu logo briefly before shutting down. I was in IRC last night for some time trying to fix this and I ended up giving up and reinstalling ubuntu. before doing that I tried the repairboot utility, repair b
[02:56] <blebaford> roken packages from recovery mode, apt-get update from recovery mode, and booting from a different kernel version. The problem started yesterday with the same issue I brought to you: it gave me a black screen with some text when I tried to logout/shutdown. I just wasn't patient and I hit the power button. Open to ideas.
[02:57] <ObrienDave> gabb: http://www.asus.com/999/html/events/mb/ezflash.htm
[02:58] <ObrienDave> gabb: just do NOT enter the flash BIOS util. you can brick your 'puter without the disk
[02:59] <ObrienDave> brb
[03:00] <genii-around> blebaford: Well, does the ctrl-alt-f1 work again to get into a console?
[03:02] <genii-around> blebaford: Your problem is almost certainly the nomodeset needs to be done, but we have to mess with config files, etc
[03:03] <gabb> ObrienDave: shall I follow these instructions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI ?
[03:03] <blebaford> genii-around: unfortunately not. I could boot in recovery mode.
[03:04] <genii-around> blebaford: We can do it fropm there, so long as you have a command prompt.
[03:04] <we6jbo> How do I prevent the screen from turning off when I'm on battery mode?
[03:05] <genii-around> we6jbo: put xset dmps force off     ...into /etc/rc.local
[03:05] <blebaford> genii-around: ok I got a root shell prompt
[03:05] <ObrienDave> gabb: not familiar with UEFI. seems logical though
[03:06] <genii-around> blebaford: OK. So, nano /etc/default/grub    and put this line: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="nomodeset"
[03:06] <ObrienDave> gabb: see if you can get to BIOS first
[03:06] <genii-around> blebaford: Then ctrl-x to exit, it will ask about saving, just hit enter
[03:07] <genii-around> blebaford: Then:  update-initramfs -u && update-grub
[03:09] <gabb> ObrienDave: hopre it works
[03:09] <genii-around> blebaford: While we are here, should see what video card it uses. So: lshw -short -C video | tail -n1          ...will give us an idea
[03:09] <Erealz> hi everyone i need help real quick . i just installed debian 7 on my netbook but no wireless drivers were installed i believe it a brodcom i need to know what apt-get driver do i install to make wireless work. on ubuntu of course works out the box but i wonder what the driver it use be defoult
[03:09] <ObrienDave> gabb: try getting into BIOS first. see if you have UEFI. we'll go from there
[03:11] <blebaford> genii-around: nano is giving me the error: "Error writing /etc/default/grup: Read-only file system" may have something to do with recovery mode...
[03:11] <blebaford> genii-around: I tried sudo and all that but no luck
[03:12] <genii-around> blebaford: Yes. So:  mount -a -o remount,rw     ...and then try again
[03:13] <Erealz> hi everyone i need help real quick . i just installed debian 7 on my netbook but no wireless drivers were installed i believe it a brodcom i need to know what apt-get driver do i install to make wireless work. on ubuntu of course works out the box but i wonder what the driver it use be defoult
[03:13] <Erealz> broadcom bcm 4313 what driver those ubuntu use for wireless
[03:13] <genii-around> !bcm | Erealz
[03:14] <genii-around> Erealz: More than that, you need Debian support and not Ubuntu :)
[03:15] <blebaford> genii-around: still telling me Read-only file system
[03:17] <paulo_> oi
[03:17] <ObrienDave> Blebaford: are you root?
[03:17] <paulo_> good night guys...
[03:18] <genii-around> blebaford: OK. So then the other way would be to issue reboot, then get into the Grub menu, edit the line which has: quiet splash      in it by adding: nomodeset    to the end then try booting that
[03:18] <genii-around> ObrienDave: They are in recovery boot
[03:18] <blebaford> genii-around: I was root, but I was able to get to another prompt by choosing "resume normal boot" and typing ctl-alt-f1.
[03:18] <ObrienDave> ok
[03:18] <genii-around> blebaford: So in that case forget the reboot instructions and follow the original ones :)
[03:19] <genii-around> blebaford: I have to go grab a coffee, back in a few minutes
[03:20] <ObrienDave> gabb: read this please: http://askubuntu.com/questions/221835/installing-ubuntu-on-a-pre-installed-uefi-supported-windows-8-system
[03:24] <genii-around> blebaford: Back. Did you manage to complete any of the steps?
[03:24] <blebaford> genii-around: When I did sudo update-initramfs -u && update-grub, I get a line that says "grub-mkconfig: You must run this as root" ... does that mean it didn't work? I used sudo. su doesn't seem to work which may be a quirk of ubuntu?
[03:25] <genii-around> blebaford: Ah, yes. If you're at regular prompt now, all the commands require sudo in front
[03:25] <genii-around> blebaford: So in this case, sudo update-grub
[03:25] <ObrienDave> or you can try sudo -i to go root in current terminal
[03:26] <blebaford> gentii-around: I used sudo but still got "grub-mkconfig: You must run this as root". I didn't say "error" so maybe I'm fine?
[03:27] <blebaford> gentii-around: I did sudo -i as OD said. when I ran sudo update-initramfs -u && update-grub, I got some more lines ending with "done" so that must be a good sign.
[03:28] <genii-around> blebaford: The command: sudo update-initramfs -u && update-grub     ...is two commands, separated by the && which means only do the next thing if the first thing goes OK. So you needed either a sudo between the && and the update-grub, or just run sudo update-grub  by itself
[03:28]  * genii-around sips his coffee
[03:28] <blebaford> genii-around: ok that explains the behavior
[03:29] <gabb> ObrienDave: that's exactly my problem
[03:29] <gabb> though I did make a partition but I formatted it
[03:30] <genii-around> blebaford: While we are here, should see what video card it uses. So: lshw -short -C video | tail -n1 ...will give us an idea. It might be some oddball thing like Optimus
[03:30] <elisa87> why mount: mount point /mnt/tmp does not exist ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5699056/
[03:30] <genii-around> blebaford: sudo lshw -short -C video | tail -n1      ...rather ;)
[03:30] <gabb> f****** win8
[03:31] <genii-around> gabb: I feel your pain.
[03:31] <blebaford> genii-around: I'm getting "/0/100/2    display    2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller" .... It's Intel I think.
[03:31] <ObrienDave> gabb: that should not be a problem. when you made the ubuntu partition, did you make a swap partition as well?
[03:31] <genii-around> blebaford: Yup
[03:32] <blebaford> gentii-around: now... reboot?
[03:32] <genii-around> blebaford: Yes: sudo sync && sudo shutdown -r now    ....and see if we get login
[03:35] <matthew> hey?
[03:35] <gabb> no swap partition
[03:35] <Guest67339> hellow?
[03:35] <ObrienDave> gabb: LOL, that's why i gave up on Win period ;))
[03:35] <omnizya> hello
[03:35] <Guest67339> this is crazy.
[03:36] <Guest67339> just put this operation system in my broke computer
[03:37] <hackoo> My USB modem disconnects very frequently in Ubuntu 12.04. I am forced to use Windows 7, same modem do not get disconnected on Windows 7 with same laptop. Help to resolve it would be highly appreciated.
[03:37] <ObrienDave> gabb, that is probably the problem. boot the live DVD, run gparted, add a swap partition the same size as your memory to the END of your ubuntu partition
[03:37] <blebaford> genii-around: alright now slightly different behavior. I am stuck at a purple screen that says "Ubuntu" with dots below that aren't moving.
[03:37] <Biomechd> hey guys, got another issue. apparently my laptop can't detect my speakers this boot session, and i can't stream the sound through my headphones in chrome.
[03:37] <genii-around> blebaford: Well, give it a little while first then
[03:38] <ObrienDave> Biomechd: is the volume up? headphones have a different control. can't tell how how many times people have asked that ;))
[03:39] <blebaford> genii-around: I already waited 2 minutes or so. Could wait more. Pressing the power button makes the dots start to change color like it's starting up, then it turns off.
[03:39] <Biomechd> yes, the volume is up.
[03:39] <Biomechd> oh, i meant to say earphones, by the way.
[03:39] <genii-around> blebaford: OK. So the old ctrl-alt-f1 , login
[03:39] <ObrienDave> no biggie, same level control
[03:39] <Biomechd> and they don't have a little volume node thing on them either.
[03:40] <genii-around> blebaford: I suspect it's doing a file system check but not telling us. how large is the hard drive?
[03:41] <blebaford> genii-around: 320 GB but I'm only using a 200GB partition for ubuntu. The rest is free space.
[03:41] <genii-around> Phone, back in a few
[03:42] <blebaford> genii-around: back at the command prompt now.
[03:43] <surt> Hello. I am having trouble with my rtl8192ce compatible pci-e wifi card. I tried updating the driver manually but it still drops out regularly and won't reconnect. So I am now trying to update to the latest kernel (3.5.0-31-generic) after researching this to be a solution. However, I cannot get into my system because I get this error: unknown filesystem type reiserfs. I read this to be a failure of the system to finish "mkinitrd". But I don't k
[03:43] <surt> Can anyone help I'm DROWNING...in issues here.
[03:44] <dank101> help
[03:44] <dank101> i just installed Illumination Software Creator via the offical deb
[03:44] <dank101> it son't show up unity
[03:44] <dank101> *won't
[03:44] <dank101> AT ALL
[03:45] <gzy23> hello everyone
[03:46] <dank101> anyone willing to help me?
[03:46] <dank101> hi
[03:46] <gzy23> i've run into an issue with mounting a drive that was in an ext4 raid 1 configuration
[03:46] <genii-around> blebaford:OK. mount| grep ' / '       ...should tell you which partition we need to run fsck on.
[03:46] <gzy23> i had it in an synology nas which operates on some variant of debian linux
[03:46] <ObrienDave> dank: give it a minute, someone will help
[03:46] <genii-around> blebaford: Something like /dev/sda1 or /dev/sda2   most likely
[03:46] <gzy23> i have two 1 tb wdblacks that were in raid 1
[03:47] <dank101> ...
[03:47] <blebaford> genii-around: got it /dev/sda1
[03:47] <dank101> well
[03:47] <dank101> when i ask a question noone answers it
[03:47] <dank101> someone elses
[03:47] <surt> Maybe my question was too complex so I might just rephrase: How do I trigger mkinitrd correctly after upgrading system in ubuntu?
[03:47] <dank101> 3,000,000 answers
[03:47] <genii-around> blebaford: sudo mount -o remount,ro /      ..... does this run OK ?
[03:48] <genii-around> blebaford: If so, then:  sudo fsck /dev/sda1 and grab a coffee ;)
[03:48] <hackoo> We don't have /var/log/messages in Ubuntu so what we have instead of it ?
[03:48] <dank101> what am i a ****ing ghost here?
[03:49] <blebaford> genii-around: it's telling me "mount: / is busy"
[03:49] <dank101> i take that as a yes
[03:49] <surt> c**t...
[03:49] <genii-around> surt: sudo update-initramfs -u
[03:49] <surt> thank you
[03:50] <ObrienDave> dank101: patience please. someone will help
[03:50] <crazyhorse> hi, i installed ubuntu via usb disk and the main drive is not bootable
[03:50] <surt> genii-around: "Warning: No support for locale: en_AU.utf8" - is that OK? Possible cause?
[03:50] <crazyhorse> I created a 200gb partition using ext4, a 2gb swap partition.. and installed ubuntu not he 200gb partition
[03:50] <genii-around> dank101: If no one has approached with an answer to your question, please wait 5-7 minutes then ask again. It's likely no one currently here knows the answer, so no one is responding
[03:50] <crazyhorse> after rebooting, chaging the bios boot priorities, it won't boot
[03:51] <genii-around> surt: I'm already occupied with assisting someone else currently. This sounds like some deeper issue
[03:51] <surt> OK. Thanks.
[03:51] <genii-around> blebaford: OK, so tedious but... reboot into recovery, get a console there, then issue:  fsck /dev/sda1
[03:52] <crazyhorse> is there any magic you have to do in ubuntu to make a particular partition bootable?
[03:53] <dank101> crazyhorse, in GParted there is a option in there
[03:53] <crazyhorse> doi'm in the installation
[03:53] <blebaford> genii-around: says it's clean
[03:53] <crazyhorse> i'm in the installation wizard
[03:54] <djapo> 53/join  xmonad
[03:54] <dank101> crazyhorse, then No
[03:54] <crazyhorse> agh do i have to mount it to /boot?
[03:54] <dank101> no lol
[03:55] <genii-around> blebaford: OK, good. I'd like to see now more info on the video card. So: lspci -nn  ... and then just tell me the number code that appears like ( 8086:107d)   for the line where the VGA adapter is
[03:58] <blebaford> genii-around: [8086:0126]
[03:58] <genii-around> blebaford: I'll look it up, one minute please
[04:00] <genii-around> blebaford: Looks like maybe this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1140716
[04:02] <genii-around> blebaford: At any rate, should reboot, then when it hangs, get a console again, we will do some tidying up with apt-get to see if there is some issue with packages
[04:03] <blebaford> genii-around: well it says Fix released for Precise, which I'm running.
[04:05] <blebaford> genii-around: I'm also running version 3.5.0-23 which is not one of the ones mentioned in that bug report. Anyways back at a command prompt now.
[04:06] <genii-around> blebaford: OK. So to try: sudo apt-get -f install     ...and see if anything is pending to be installed
[04:11] <blebaford> genii-around: looks like nothing's pending. It's giving me just a list of packages that were automatically installed but are no longer required.
[04:12] <WeThePeople> headphones not working when i reboot, but from shutdown they work, any ideas
[04:12] <genii-around> blebaford: OK. So now we ensure all updates are done:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:14] <WeThePeople> alsa and pulse installed
[04:15] <dr_willis> WeThePeople:  you mean you only hear the shutdown sounds?
[04:15] <phong_> hi guys
[04:15] <WeThePeople> dr_willis, no, my headphones work when i turn the laptop on
[04:15] <WeThePeople> and dont work when i reboot
[04:16] <genii-around> blebaford: I have to leave soon, it is 12:15am here and I'm still at work, so it's likely this may not get resolved tonight
[04:16] <dr_willis> so they only work when you 'cold boot' from a totally powered off state ?
[04:16] <WeThePeople> dr_willis, yes
[04:17] <betrayd> WeThePeople you didn't use alsactl save did you, somewhere in the boot process
[04:17] <WeThePeople> betrayed, idk
[04:17] <WeThePeople> where is that at
[04:18] <surt> I'm still having trouble booting newly installed kernel 3.5.0-31-generic. I get this error and the system won't respond to allow me to skip: unknown filesystem type reiserfs.
[04:18] <dr_willis> WeThePeople:  that is a little strange..  i recall ages ago a similer issue - but that was like 10+ yrs ago.. ;) the soundcard was not getting reset/setup properly from a warm boot..
[04:18] <betrayd> no, that means you didn't have to actually put it in (edit a script or someth)
[04:18] <blebaford> genii-around: OK, should I try and get ahold of you some time later? How confident are you this issue can be resolved? apt-get update is taking some time btw.
[04:19] <dr_willis> surt:  you are using reiserfs ?
[04:19] <genii-around> blebaford: I'm here weekdays 9:30-ish AM to 5PM EST
[04:19] <surt> dr_willis: 3 of my HDDs are reiserfs.
[04:19] <surt> dr_willis: And they are listed in fstab.
[04:19] <genii-around> blebaford: I may be around tomorrow afternoon 4-7 my time
[04:19] <dr_willis> surt:  does an older kernel work properly? it sounds liek reiserfs is not  in the  problem kernel to me.
[04:20] <surt> dr_willis: kernel 3.5.0-17-generic works. But presumably because when the system was installed 5 days ago it was set up correctly.
[04:20] <genii-around> dr_willis: Maybe no reiser in initramfs modules
[04:20] <blebaford> genii-around: ok... what is the likelihood this issue can be resolved?
[04:21] <surt> genii-around: I think I read something about that, what cmd can I issue to check?
[04:21] <genii-around> blebaford: I'm hopeful it can be resolved
[04:21] <dr_willis> !modules
[04:22] <blebaford> genii-around: do you think it's possible that this was caused by me using MATE?
[04:22] <genii-around> surt: Whatever the module name is, to put it in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules      and then sudo update-initramfs -u
[04:22] <dr_willis> hmm.. theres that makeinitrd command.. but not sure  on the details
[04:22] <camilo> help me: genome terminal not working in xfce... I have ubuntu 13.04
[04:22] <genii-around> blebaford: I'm not sure what that is
[04:23] <surt> genii-around: Where would I find this module? Surely reiserfs would be included...it seems unlikely, being such a fast and secure fs?
[04:23] <blebaford> genii-around: it's an unsupported desktop environment... fork of Gnome 2.
[04:23] <genii-around> blebaford: Yes, that may have something to do with it
[04:23] <dr_willis> blebaford:  best advice.. stop using mate or cinnimon or other gnome2 forks..  teh newer gnome 3.8  has its own  gnome-2 mode that will most likely become the standard wayt o do a gnome-2 look
[04:23] <surt> Do I need to install an additional package?
[04:24] <genii-around> surt: No, no additional packages. Just as I said the initrd has no reiser module is the most likely thing.
[04:24]  * dr_willis hasent really heard much about reiserfs lately, or any real reasons to use it over the other fs's out there.
[04:24] <surt> Well what does a module look like and where do I find it?
[04:24] <surt> Not in the package "linux-image-extra-3.5.0-31-generic"?
[04:26] <blebaford> dr_willis: Seems like Linux Mint will continue to support MATE for quite some time... I really prefer the true Gnome 2 feel over gnome panel.
[04:26] <Ben64> gnome 2 is dead, deal with it
[04:26] <blebaford> genii-around: alright thanks for your help, I may return. get some sleep.
[04:26] <camilo> help me: genome terminal not working in xfce... I have ubuntu 13.04
[04:27] <genii-around> surt: The idea here is to make it always be added to the initrd ... so:  sudo nano /etc/initramfs-tools/modules     ... put at the bottom one line saying just:  reiserfs    ...then save and exit. Then you rebuild the initramfs with the reiser support by:  sudo update-initramfs -u
[04:27] <genii-around> surt: But I have to go, is late here. thats the general gist though
[04:27] <genii-around> blebaford: Night!
[04:27] <surt> Alright I'll give it a stab. Thank you.
[04:28] <blebaford> Ben64: I am dealing with it by using MATE.
[04:29] <blebaford> Ben64: It doesn't seem like a good attitude to stop supporting MATE in anticipation of its failure.
[04:31] <camilo> :-(
[04:33] <dr_willis> blebaford:  have you even tried the gnome2 mode in 3.8?
[04:33] <dr_willis> the main issue blebaford  is that MATE is not really sypporteed by this channel..
[04:34] <dr_willis> so we are not  'stopping support of mate' it has never been supported by us
[04:35] <camilo> help me:
[04:36] <camilo> :-)
[04:36] <lasers> blebaford: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/MATE-Desktop -- It looks like Fedora supports MATE. :)
[04:36] <dr_willis> camilo:  give us details..
[04:36] <camilo> help me: genome terminal not working in xfce... I have ubuntu 13.04
[04:36] <dr_willis> camilo:  give us DETAILS
[04:36] <dr_willis> open a xfce-terminal and run it and see if any errors show up?
[04:36] <blebaford> dr_willis: it seemed like Ben64 was suggesting that I stop supporting MATE, so what I meant was that it doesn't seem right for *me* to stop supporting MATE simply because some people think it's days are numbered.
[04:37] <dr_willis> 'everything' has its days numbered. ;)
[04:37] <dr_willis> some are just a lot lower numbered then others.
[04:37] <borys> PUSI LOVERS
[04:39] <blebaford> lasers: I was aware. Might move over to the dark side or just back to Linux Mint...
[04:39] <camilo> genome terminal spear   black screen
[04:40] <dr_willis> camilo:  err. what is your native language?
[04:41] <camilo> spanish
[04:41] <blebaford> dr_willis: though I may checkout the gnome2 mode in 3.8... Is that different from the "Gnome Panel" that was available a few months ago?
[04:43] <clearview> i got ubuntu to install in virtual pc 2007, all works except usb network, thinking there may be a better vm now?
[04:44] <ObrienDave> try VirtualBox
[04:44] <dr_willis> blebaford:  i only used it for about 30 min,. and to be honesst. its been so long since ive last used gnome-2 - i dident even notice any differances that i can rember..
[04:45] <kexul> VirtualBox,good
[04:45] <dr_willis> blebaford:  main differance it its the ''official from gnome-devs' gnome2 mode/theme. so it will be avaiable in all the gnome-3 setups i imagine from 3.8+
[04:45] <dr_willis> !es | camilo
[04:47] <aznblur> Has anyone have a tiling window manager working with 13.04 without getting rid of the top Unity panel?
[04:47] <youngblackkid> Has anyone have a tiling window manager working with 13.04 without getting rid of the top Unity panel?
[04:47] <camilo> gracias :-/  chanel ubuntu-es is empty
[04:47] <youngblackkid> gracias :-/  chanel ubuntu-es is empty
[04:47] <blebaford> dr_willis: alright thanks for the info. Probably will just go to Linux Mint w/ MATE but I'll keep the option in mind.
[04:47] <youngblackkid> dr_willis: alright thanks for the info. Probably will just go to Linux Mint w/ MATE but I'll keep the option in mind.
[04:47] <camilo> no hlp me in ubuntu-es
[04:47] <youngblackkid> no hlp me in ubuntu-es
[04:48] <dr_willis> aznblur:  since unity is a plugin for compiz, im not sure thats possible
[04:48] <youngblackkid> aznblur:  since unity is a plugin for compiz, im not sure thats possible
[04:48] <sam113101> yo llevo una falda roja
[04:48] <youngblackkid> yo llevo una falda roja
[04:49] <camilo> you speak in spanish
[04:49] <camilo> ?
[04:49] <camilo> help me
[04:49] <youngblackkid> you speak in spanish
[04:49] <youngblackkid> ?
[04:49] <youngblackkid> help me
[04:49] <ObrienDave> oh geez, a 9 year old playing repeater
[04:49] <youngblackkid> cierras tus ojos y abre tu boca
[04:49] <aznblur> dr_willis, youngblackkid: oh, that's annoying, i'd like to keep the top panel
[04:49] <dr_willis> poor troll is poor
[04:49] <youngblackkid> te voya dar ayuda en un momento
[04:50] <camilo> ok thanks
[04:52] <dr_willis> aznblur:  i might have seen some guides on getting  the 'global menu panel' working in xfce. but i never really looked at them.
[04:52] <dr_willis> there might be a way to adapt that method to other wm's
[04:53] <aznblur> dr_willis: cheers, i'll have a dig
[04:53] <camilo> my gnome terminal no cursor, can not write, is only black screen
[04:53] <dr_willis> camilo:  try changeing its thermes/profile/colors?
[04:53] <ObrienDave> camilo, change the colors
[04:53] <dr_willis> therme
[04:53] <dr_willis> theme
[04:55] <camilo> hooooo.. this is magi
[04:55] <camilo> mgc
[04:55] <camilo> magic
[04:55] <ObrienDave> we got it :))
[04:55] <camilo> thank you
[04:56] <ObrienDave> por nada
[04:56] <camilo> jajajaj
[04:56] <camilo> :-D
[04:57] <dr_willis> black text on black background - poor  for reading.. ;)
[04:57] <dr_willis> use hot pink, on fusha...
[04:58] <ObrienDave> amazing how hard it is to read when foreground and background colors are the same LOL
[04:58] <aznblur> dr_willis: I think I'll just install xfce4 and get xmonad working with that then
[04:58] <dr_willis> unless you 'select'all the text to invert it. ;)
[04:58] <camilo> to dream with woman angel... I'm happy good nigth
[04:59] <camilo> master
[04:59] <camilo> bye
[05:00] <ObrienDave> had a friend tell me once, all the files had disappeared from the file requester window. guess what the problem was LMAO
[05:00] <dr_willis> everytime i ever try a 'dark' theme - i  always seem to get unreadable txt somewhere
[05:00] <ObrienDave> yup :)
[05:01] <dr_willis> whats really sad is i  recall such neat  'theme'  features on my old old old amiga and the 'MUI'  widget/libraries...
[05:01] <ObrienDave> why, oh why, do they insist on 90% gray on a black background???
[05:01] <ItsMeLenny> it
[05:01] <dr_willis> seems we are constantly reinventing the  wrong parts of the gui.
[05:02] <ItsMeLenny> it's because everything is so sperate
[05:02] <ItsMeLenny> separate*
[05:02] <ObrienDave> oh geez, i sitll have my Amiga 1000 from 1985 LMAO
[05:02] <ItsMeLenny> theres no one location for everything to choose text colour from, or font, etc tec
[05:02] <ItsMeLenny> i have my first computer, its not that old tho, 386, 1994?
[05:03] <dr_willis> ObrienDave:  i finally got rid of all mine.. just to much junk to keep around.
[05:03] <ObrienDave> keeping mine for 'posterity' LOL
[05:03] <dr_willis> my android phone can emulate  the amiga and be 10000x faster at doing it.. ;l)
[05:04] <ObrienDave> oh, i'm sure. nothing like firing it up with the 'kickstart' disk :)
[05:04] <ItsMeLenny> dr_willis, i just dumped my 2nd computer, and a whole heap of other stuff, ewaste, they should get recycled for most part, although it terribly upsets me everytime a think about it
[05:05] <dr_willis> all these failed os's from my past.. make me  a cynic with new stuff. ;)
[05:05] <dr_willis> great features from AmigaOS and BeOS and even GeOS  - tossed out.
[05:06] <ObrienDave> like OS2 warp???
[05:07] <dr_willis> never eally messed with Os2 - but i really miss the idea of 'rexx' ports in apps from amigaos. and beos's use of meta-data  along with the files actual data for  some interesting features.
[05:09] <ObrienDave> could be worse, could still have my VIC-20 lol
[05:11] <dr_willis> got rid of avic20  2yrs ago
[05:12] <ObrienDave> boat anchor???
[05:13] <dr_willis> it worked. gave it to a ham radio guy  for his morese code station
[05:14] <ObrienDave> cool. MANY years ago, i knew a merchant marine. he used a VIC-20 to measure torque on the propeller shaft
[05:15] <youngblackkid> are merchant marines civilians
[05:15] <youngblackkid> i still dont know
[05:15] <ObrienDave> yes, sort of
[05:18] <recursion> oops, i'm installing 11.10
[05:19] <ashish_> my system takes too much time in shutdown after installing xfce in ubuntu13.04
[05:19] <Ben64> recursion: 11.10 is no longer supported, choose a newer version
[05:19] <mordonez> Hi guys, I am having troubles with the sound card
[05:19] <mordonez> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=840587802ca0f3f1d19751fa20cabe5b6cb0db89
[05:19] <mordonez> that is my alsa report
[05:19] <FloodBot1> mordonez: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:21] <crazyhorse> hey
[05:21] <Guest63193> Hi, I'm getting an unmet dependencies error on 12.04:
[05:21] <Guest63193> linux-image-generic-pae : Depends: linux-image-3.2.0-41-generic-pae but it is not installed
[05:21] <crazyhorse> i've tried installing ubuntu 12.04 3 times now and i can not get it too boot
[05:22] <crazyhorse> after i install i always get "Reboot and Select proper Boot device"
[05:22] <ashish_> my system takes too much time in shutdown after installing xfce in ubuntu13.04
[05:22] <Guest63193> but apt-get -f install does not work: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:22] <crazyhorse> I assumed it would just be like windows.. i.e. stick the usb stick in.. click next next next.. reboot
[05:23] <lasers> crazyhorse: How did you install? Via netcat? Details, please. Disc? USB? Ran md5sum?
[05:23] <crazyhorse> laser: Usb
[05:23] <crazyhorse> lasers: ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-amd64.img.dmg installed to usb disk
[05:23] <lasers> crazyhorse: DMG is for mac.
[05:23] <crazyhorse> yes that's correct
[05:23] <Ben64> Guest63193: pastebin the whole thing, also... "uname -a" and  "lsb_release -r"
[05:23] <crazyhorse> i built the USB stick on a mac
[05:24] <crazyhorse> I then boot from the USB
[05:24] <mordonez> This is right place to ask for sound card help?
[05:24] <mordonez> When I plug my headphones
[05:24] <lasers> crazyhorse: You did something like this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20install%20Ubuntu%20on%20MacBook%20using%20USB%20Stick
[05:24] <crazyhorse> create an ext4 partition of 200,000 with a mount point of / and a swap partition of 2000mb
[05:24] <mordonez> the sound stills goes for the speakers
[05:24] <crazyhorse> lasers: yeah that exact guide
[05:25] <crazyhorse> the usb boots fine... i can get into the ubuntu live.. it goes through the entire install procedure, it spend 20 mins downloading all the updates
[05:25] <crazyhorse> and then when i reboot it's like it can find the master boot loader (like grub or whatever)
[05:25] <betrayd> can or can't
[05:25] <crazyhorse> sorry can't
[05:26] <Guest63193> Ben64: thanks, just running..
[05:26] <lasers> crazyhorse: You tried it three times? So basically you converted/dd to usb 3 times?
[05:26] <crazyhorse> lasers: no
[05:26] <crazyhorse> i've tried installing it 3 times
[05:26] <crazyhorse> like i said the USB works fine
[05:26] <crazyhorse> if the USB didn't load, or came up with some corruption message i would try redoing the USB
[05:26] <ashish_> my system takes too much time in shutdown after installing xfce in ubuntu13.04. please help anybody
[05:27] <Guest63193> Ben64: http://pastebin.com/0e2Xwnsf
[05:27] <crazyhorse> I had assumed it's because i was setting up custom partitions that caused it not too boot
[05:27] <lasers> crazyhorse: Okay. I'm asking because I had non-mac-related experiences installing via USB. USB sometimes will install grub to the usb drive instead of hard drive.
[05:27] <crazyhorse> lasers: ohhhh
[05:28] <crazyhorse> :/
[05:28] <crazyhorse> right
[05:28] <crazyhorse> yeah the device is showing up as /dev/sdb in the partitioning menu
[05:28] <Or1on> settings for several desktop applications seem to be gone. I have a folder called u on my home folder with several folders with names of applications. has anyone seen anything like this? it just happened today
[05:28] <Ben64> Guest63193: sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.2.0-41-generic-pae
[05:29] <crazyhorse> lasers: in the partitioning menu there is a option "Device for boot loader installation"  i've got it set to the SSD
[05:30] <lasers> crazyhorse: The usb device? Are you sure? Certainty? I stick to manual point where the hard drive is. Need to remember where the hard drive is in partition menu. Other than that, I don't know.
[05:30] <Guest63193> Ben64: http://pastebin.com/PK3U6zE8
[05:30] <crazyhorse> i'll try a 4th time :/
[05:31] <lasers> crazyhorse: Bad grammar. Make note of the SSD path and USB path. At end of installation, it asks about grub. Don't do it automatically. Select where the hard drive is. Hope for the best.
[05:32] <lasers> crazyhorse: (and if it had md5sum, run that. Only few minutes to ensure that it's not bad)
[05:32] <crazyhorse> ok
[05:33] <recursion> any heard of dht crawling by Scott Wolchok?
[05:34] <Ben64> Guest63193: try deleting the file from /var/cache/apt/archives and try again
[05:34] <mordonez> Hi guys, anyone can help me with my headphones problem?
[05:34] <mordonez> I just can't get my headphones working
[05:35] <mordonez> when I plug them in the sound still outputs for speakers
[05:35] <Guest63193> Ben64: same result unfortunately (thanks for the help btw)
[05:36] <Ben64> Guest63193: same same? error unpacking?
[05:36] <cockatrice> Hey, when I try to install any package, it gives me crap about oracle-java7-installer because the sha256sum wasn't the same when it downloaded it
[05:37] <cockatrice> Is there any way I can get it to stop saying that? I tried to uninstall it but it wouldn't do that eitehr.
[05:37] <cockatrice> *either
[05:37] <ObrienDave> cockatrice, probably a bad d/l. try again
[05:37] <cockatrice> I've done it three times
[05:38] <galtamiche> your welkomm
[05:39] <cockatrice> Oh wait. I'm no expert but I looked more into the results it was giving and it looks like the page it's trying to download from isn't the right one.
[05:39] <Guest63193> Ben64: here's the result: http://pastebin.com/78yfRL7U
[05:39] <ObrienDave> cockatrice, try using 'fix broken packages' with synaptic
[05:39] <cockatrice> It got a response in text/html but it saved it as a .tar.gz. Is there any way to make it stop trying to download it?
[05:40] <cockatrice> Thanks, ObrienDave
[05:41] <galtamiche> !list
[05:41] <galtamiche> !alis
[05:42] <mordonez> Guys anyone that can help me with the sound problems?
[05:42] <ObrienDave> ask again, sorry
[05:42] <recursion> bot, you're not exactly DeepBlue are ya?
[05:43] <ObrienDave> not even close LOL
[05:44] <crazyhorse> is there anyway i can get ubuntu NOT to download anything during the install
[05:44] <betrayd> more like a cyan
[05:44] <ObrienDave> yes, don't check 'install updates during install'
[05:44] <mordonez> WHen I plug the headphones the sound stills outputs through speakers
[05:44] <histo> crazyhorse: don't check updates during install or unplug the cable
[05:45] <histo> mordonez: jack sense isn't working or enabled
[05:45] <crazyhorse> lol. yeah i didn't check it
[05:45] <rohitsz> crazyhorse: disconnect your system from the internet! :-)
[05:45] <ObrienDave> mordonez, sounds like a bad headphone jack
[05:45] <crazyhorse> again!
[05:45] <crazyhorse> jesus
[05:45] <crazyhorse> i can't get this to install
[05:46] <crazyhorse> whatever i do
[05:46] <crazyhorse> it will not boot
[05:46] <FloodBot1> crazyhorse: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:46] <ObrienDave> what system are you trying to install with? win8?
[05:46] <betrayd> gnite everyone
[05:46] <crazyhorse> From a USB
[05:47] <ObrienDave> what is already on the comp?
[05:47] <crazyhorse> nothing
[05:47] <Or1on> my /home/[USER]/.config seemed to have been erased or moved to /home/[user]/u has anyone seen this happen?
[05:47] <crazyhorse> and everytime i redo it, i repartition the drive
[05:47] <Or1on> most of my desktop settings seem to be gone
[05:47] <ObrienDave> it is a blank, virgin hard drive?
[05:47] <crazyhorse> 200gb Ext4 / 2gb swap  ... ext4 mounted to /     i then select the SSD to boot form
[05:48] <crazyhorse> ObrienDave: It was the first time, the 2nd, 3rd and 4th times i repartitioned
[05:48] <ObrienDave> how much RAM on comp?
[05:48] <crazyhorse> and ticked the format box
[05:48] <crazyhorse> 32gb
[05:48] <recursion> removing the usb after the install?
[05:48] <ObrienDave> make the swap file same size as memory
[05:49] <Or1on> i'm going to try something. brb
[05:49] <Guest63193> I'm getting dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-3.2.0-41-generic-pae_3.2.0-41.66_i386.deb whenever I try to upgrade my ubuntu server, I have tried apt-get clean, is anyone able to help?
[05:49] <crazyhorse> 32gb of swap??
[05:49] <ObrienDave> yes
[05:49] <crazyhorse> it's too big
[05:49] <crazyhorse> i've only got 256gb SSD
[05:49] <crazyhorse> this is a boot issue, why do i need 32gb of swap
[05:49] <lasers> ObrienDave: Mac too.
[05:50] <mordonez> What can I do to make it work ObrienDave ?
[05:51] <crazyhorse> ohh i got it too boot
[05:51] <ObrienDave> mordonez, get the physical jack fixed
[05:51] <crazyhorse> shit.. it's still the USB drive
[05:52] <lasers> crazyhorse: You boot it?
[05:52] <crazyhorse> nah.. it booted of the USB
[05:52] <crazyhorse> i take the USB out and it's back to Reboot and Select proper Boot Device
[05:52] <mordonez> but how you are sure the physical is bad?
[05:52] <Guest63193> how can I force a filesystem check on all filesystems on boot?
[05:52] <lasers> crazyhorse: ... Plug the USB in and reboot.
[05:52] <mordonez> why it can't be the software?
[05:53] <histo> Guest63193: with fsck
[05:53] <crazyhorse> lasers: ok doing that now
[05:53] <crazyhorse> ok it boots straight away
[05:53] <lasers> crazyhorse: When it boot up, you're at installation or just straight to Ubuntu?
[05:53] <Guest63193> histo: thanks but how?
[05:53] <crazyhorse> lasers: straight into ubuntu.. with a do you want to install ubuntu or try ubuntu
[05:53] <ObrienDave> mordonez, the jack has a physical switch built in that disconnects the speakers.
[05:54] <Or1on> I got my settings back by moving the folders from u to .config I still don't know why this happened. I just hope no one is playing with my computer
[05:54] <histo> Guest63193: which drive or directory is the drive mounted to?
[05:54] <lasers> crazyhorse: Try Ubuntu. "sudo fdisk -l"
[05:54] <lasers> (In the terminal0
[05:54] <lasers> )
[05:54] <crazyhorse> yep
[05:54] <histo> Guest63193: you can touch /forcefsck  to check root on the next reboot. Or you can shutdown -rF now
[05:54] <mordonez> but when I connect the sound mutes
[05:55] <mordonez> but when I volume up the sound is still output from the speakers
[05:55] <mordonez> so
[05:55] <Guest63193> histo: thanks
[05:55] <crazyhorse> lasers: ok it doesn't show the SSD
[05:55] <mordonez> when the headphone is connected the system can detect it
[05:55] <cebor> how can i access a windows share via the console? i just authanticaed and mounted the share via my nautilus
[05:56] <ObrienDave> mordonez, ok, switch is working. try the volume controls. headphones are on a different control
[05:56] <Parsi> can i create a system image of ubuntu?
[05:56] <mordonez> yeah I am trying that
[05:56] <mordonez> let's hope I can find something
[05:56] <mordonez> brb I have to reboot
[05:57] <crazyhorse> lasers: http://goo.gl/MWFG7
[05:57] <ObrienDave> Parsi, yes you can
[05:58] <Parsi> ObrienDave: i'm talking about my ubuntu on VMware
[05:58] <Parsi> i want to restore it in real computer
[05:58] <Parsi> a real machine
[05:58] <Fudge> not sure vmware supports that feature
[05:58] <lasers> crazyhorse: Oic. At least we're getting somewhere.
[05:59] <lasers> What is /dev/sda?
[05:59] <Senjai_> I'm having a hard time finding where the default file extensions on my system are stored
[05:59] <Senjai_> file associations*
[05:59] <Ben64> Parsi: you can get a drive image from vmware with some vmware tools
[05:59] <ObrienDave> hmm, not sure about that.
[05:59] <Senjai_> defaults.list and mimeapps.list dont exist
[05:59] <Senjai_> in /usr/share/applications/
[05:59] <crazyhorse> lasers: it is a Plextor 256GB SSD
[05:59] <lasers> Senjai_: ~/.local/share/applications/omg
[05:59] <Fudge> lasers:  most likely your hard drive
[05:59] <ObrienDave> lasers: main partition of first hard drive
[06:00] <ObrienDave> lasers: would then be divided into sda1, sda2, etc.
[06:00] <Guest63193> Ben64: that is so strange, I have just re-run sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.2.0-41-generic-pae for about the 6th time and it's worked
[06:00] <Fudge> sda is the drive itself
[06:00] <crazyhorse> lasers: /dev/sda1 is a 186.26GB ext4 partition (5.54gb) used.  /dev/sda2 is linux-swap (1.86gb)
[06:00] <crazyhorse> unallocated 50.35gb
[06:00] <lasers> Fudge: Thank you. :)
[06:01] <Senjai_> oh, .local
[06:01] <Senjai_> Thank you
[06:01] <lasers> Fudge: (I was having that question to crazyhorse ;))
[06:01] <Fudge> np lasers
[06:01] <lasers> asking*
[06:01] <lasers> Senjai_: Np
[06:01] <Fudge> understood
[06:01] <crazyhorse> I've opened up gparted and it does not have the boot flag ticked.. should it?
[06:02] <ObrienDave> yes, you want it to show /
[06:02] <lasers> Fudge: Maybe you want to figure out why crazyhorse can't install Ubuntu on his Mac via USB. ;)
[06:02] <crazyhorse> lasers: it's not a mac
[06:02] <lasers> crazyhorse: You said it was?
[06:03] <crazyhorse> no i didn't.. i said i create the USB disk from a mac
[06:03] <lasers> crazyhorse: Ah. And the empty machine isn't mac?
[06:03] <crazyhorse> it's a Z77 chipset with a I5-3570
[06:03] <crazyhorse> nah standard pc hardware
[06:03] <lasers> crazyhorse: Just use normal ISO. :)
[06:04] <histo> crazyhorse: I missed your original issue... What are you trying to do?
[06:04] <crazyhorse> i think i am using the normal ISO
[06:04] <crazyhorse> histo: install ubuntu on a pc
[06:04] <crazyhorse> empty pc
[06:04] <lasers> crazyhorse: I'm checking.
[06:04] <histo> crazyhorse: via what?
[06:04] <ObrienDave> not if the extension is DMG
[06:04] <crazyhorse> histo: via a USB disk
[06:04] <histo> crazyhorse: what's the issue?
[06:04] <crazyhorse> histo: after installation, it will not boot
[06:04] <Fudge> mac images require 64bit image dont they?
[06:05] <crazyhorse> just to make it very clear.. i am NOT installing this on a mac.. a mac is just the laptop i'm using to chat to you guys while i setup these machines :)
[06:05] <histo> Fudge: some mac's have a 32bit efi but are 64bit machines. You have to use some jacked up refi something or other to get it to even boot
[06:05] <histo> crazyhorse: What happens after the install and reboot?
[06:05] <crazyhorse> it's says "insert correct boot media and reboot" or something like that
[06:06] <crazyhorse> i.e. what you get when there is no boot-loader
[06:06] <Parsi> Ben64: i want to move my ubuntu from vmware to physical partition (i'm using mac)
[06:06] <cockatrice> Okay, I still can't remove oracle-java7-installer. I installed synaptic to use the fix broken packages feature but it didn't wokr.
[06:06] <crazyhorse> i've also try to resintall 4 times and I am using custom partitions
[06:06] <Fudge> crazyhorse  so what is the machine you are installing to? does it have uefi?
[06:06] <crazyhorse> Fudge: i'm pretty sure it does
[06:07] <recursion> i think he downloaded a pc version of ubunto to the mac and used something to write it to his thumb drive, ya?
[06:07] <histo> crazyhorse: Are you installing the 64bit version or 32bit version of ubuntu?
[06:07] <ObrienDave> crazyhorse: what is the extension of the file you installed on the USB?
[06:07] <Fudge> so you want a 64 bit image anyway, which partition scheme are you using
[06:07] <crazyhorse> histo: 64 bit
[06:07] <crazyhorse> ObrienDave: following the guide i started with ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso
[06:07] <histo> crazyhorse: did you install grub to the mbr of the hard drive when you installed ubuntu?  Or are you using efi?
[06:07] <crazyhorse> then i used DD to create ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-amd64.img.dmg
[06:07] <ObrienDave> cool
[06:08] <Fudge> as histo  asked
[06:08] <crazyhorse> sorry i used some other conversion tool to create ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-amd64.img.dmg and then i used dd to create it to the drive
[06:08] <histo> crazyhorse: why?  you could just have dd'ed the iso to the thumb drive.
[06:08] <ObrienDave> NO!!!! just install the iso to USB
[06:08] <Fudge> thats not the problem, its how you are installing it, the image boots live
[06:08] <histo> Fudge: shouldn't matter
[06:08] <Fudge> crazyhorse  you said custom partitioning? so what did yo uspecify including boot loader
[06:08] <ObrienDave> Fudge: it only matters for dual boot
[06:09] <crazyhorse> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx << ObrienDave: i was following this guide
[06:09] <histo> ObrienDave: It doesn't matter in his case.
[06:09] <Fudge> ObrienDave  for example if he installed grub to sda5?
[06:09] <crazyhorse> Fudge: ion the installation it asks me which drive i want the boot loader on
[06:09] <histo> crazyhorse: What "custom" partitions are you creating?
[06:09] <crazyhorse> i specified the plextor
[06:09] <ObrienDave> that is for installing on a MAC
[06:09] <crazyhorse> histo:  a 200gb Ext4 and a 2gb swap
[06:09] <crazyhorse> ObrienDave: Ohhhh
[06:09] <histo> crazyhorse: what is the plextor?
[06:09] <Fudge> mate why not start fresh and use the entire drive, use guided
[06:09] <crazyhorse> Fudge: i want to dual boot into windows later
[06:10] <lasers> crazyhorse: No spare discs, right?
[06:10] <Fudge> if you dont mind wiping the drive, you may be making things to complicated for yourself
[06:10] <Fudge> oh crazyhorse  so windows is already installeD?
[06:10] <crazyhorse> no windows is not installed
[06:10] <pero_p> hi
[06:10] <Fudge> well go do that first, then install ubuntu along side
[06:10] <EmLeX> is it just me or is the ubuntu kernels coming so often
[06:10] <crazyhorse> i don't have time to setup windows.. i don't even have it.. i just want to setup ubuntu
[06:11] <Fudge> run a vm of windows possibly then
[06:11] <pero_p> which library i should include in gcc to compile libflac? i tried -lflac but no luck!
[06:11] <histo> crazyhorse: What is the plextor you are installing grub to? is that the disk you are installing ubuntu to?
[06:11] <Fudge> so crazyhorse  install to the entire drive, report if a guided partioning scheme still does not boot
[06:11] <crazyhorse> histo: that's the disk.. i'm not doing any manual installation of grub
[06:11] <crazyhorse> it's a 256GB SSD
[06:12] <crazyhorse> Fudge: yeah.. but i don't want to use up the entire drive
[06:12] <crazyhorse> because then i can't install windows later
[06:12] <histo> crazyhorse: make sure you are installing grub to the mbr of the 256GB SSD
[06:12] <histo> crazyhorse: unless you have efi booting machine
[06:12] <crazyhorse> histo: in the installation i don't think it even mentions crub
[06:12] <crazyhorse> grub
[06:12] <crazyhorse> ah yeah
[06:12] <histo> crazyhorse: it should at the end. unless they've changed it.
[06:12] <BadPerson> Hey guys. I'm having some problems with 13.04 and partition handling. First, changes don't appear in disks; Deletes, additions, changes, new drives and removed drives don't show up. Second, New drives don't show up in the system and disconnected drives never disappear.
[06:12] <crazyhorse> this motherboard is a UEFI bios
[06:13] <BadPerson> My system drive is an SSD if it matters at all.
[06:13] <crazyhorse> histo: it doesn't mention it at all
[06:13] <histo> crazyhorse: well for that to work you need to boot the installation media in efi mode.
[06:13] <histo> !efi | crazyhorse
[06:13] <bignob> Hey, I have some problems with youtube
[06:13] <histo> crazyhorse: also you will need a /boot partition to hold the efi stuff
[06:14] <crazyhorse> i'm so confused
[06:14] <bignob> 1. If I am watching a youtube video on fullscreen, after about 10mins the screen goes black and I have to type my password in again
[06:14] <bignob> so annoying
[06:14] <crazyhorse> shouldn't this be stick it.. next next next install?
[06:14] <ObrienDave> that would be your screensaver settings
[06:14] <histo> bignob: turn off screen blanking
[06:14] <bignob> histo: how do I do this
[06:14] <histo> crazyhorse: depends how your efi is set. Read the page from ubottu
[06:15] <crazyhorse> k
[06:15] <BadPerson> bignob: Changing your screensaver settings will work, as will jiggling your mouse every so often.
[06:15] <bignob> ok I gfound the option
[06:15] <histo> crazyhorse: typically it should be next next install. But if you have some jacked up setting it won't. Or if you delete the boot partition it wants to create
[06:15] <bignob> but I think if a movie is playing full screen it shouldn't lock
[06:15] <ObrienDave> bignob: settings, screensaver
[06:15] <crazyhorse> ObrienDave: are you sure i used the wrong image. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx   this just looks like its about creating generic bootable usb sticks?
[06:15] <histo> bignob: agree but it is for some reason.
[06:16] <crazyhorse> histo: ok
[06:16] <pizzadude> Hi. Does anyone know what this changelog for the precise kernel means? "UBUNTU: Update *current* to reference Raring"
[06:16] <BadPerson> bignob: If you are using the movie player, it actually won't sleep, ever. But Flash doesn't have a way to tell the OS that media is playing.
[06:16] <histo> crazyhorse: you just need to use the 64bit image of anything 12.04+ for EFI to work and need a /boot partition formatted fat32 which you don't have. Because of your "custom" options.
[06:16] <pizzadude> does that mean they are backporting changes from raring?
[06:16] <lasers> bignob: It's a web browser, not a media player. Some media player will inhibit.
[06:16] <ObrienDave> crazyhorse: the mistake is you converted it to MAC format. the ISO works fine on a PC
[06:16] <recursion> screensaver only consider input like mouse and keyboard as sign of activity
[06:17] <bignob> In windows it works
[06:17] <ShawnMcCool> ubuntu popped up a 'you should upgrade this software window' (13.04) and i said ok, then restarted. now every time i boot it's to a black screen with a blinking white text cursor and a white mouse cursor. i cant switch to another terminal but, no matter how many times i reboot it's the same.
[06:17] <histo> pizzadude: for added hardware support the raring kernel was pushed back. You don't have to use it though.
[06:17] <ItsMeLenny> is there a way to compile and install something and have the package manager recognise it"
[06:17] <bignob> Windows doesn't lock qhile you are watching FS youtube
[06:17] <ObrienDave> bignob: you are NOT running windows
[06:17] <silv3r_m00n> I have 2 internet connections available, 1 is a wired adsl broadband, another is a cdma mobile broadband, when i switch from mobile to adsl, i am able to ping any ip, but ping google.com does not work, I have to restart the system, tried adding nameservers to /etc/resolv.conf but still it does not work unless the system is restarted, what could be the reason ?
[06:17] <crazyhorse> ObrianDave: i'm on a mac.. right.. and i need to get the thing onto a USB drive.. considering the entire USB is bootable on the PC.. i don't see what the issue is
[06:17] <pizzadude> newer kernels tend to break my wireless
[06:18] <silv3r_m00n> the connection is switched using the gnome network applet
[06:18] <pizzadude> or make it crappier
[06:18] <crazyhorse> histo: what's the advantage of this EFI stuff?
[06:18] <crazyhorse> secureboot?
[06:18] <bignob> Yeah but it's a prtty basic feature maybe linux will implement it in 2020
[06:18] <ObrienDave> crazyhorse: the PC you are trying to install to will NOT read the mac format
[06:19] <Ben64> bignob: except flash is dying
[06:19] <bignob> ok, the next problem is, I've got 2 monitors and my display extended across both, if I have youtube fullscreened in one monitor
[06:19] <bignob> then I click on the browser in the other monitor, it cancels the fullscreen
[06:19] <bignob> really annoying
[06:19] <crazyhorse> ObrianDave: I think your confused.  This page is about install a ubuntu live usb on a mac http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[06:19] <bignob> I like to watch a movie ine one monitor wile I browse in the other
[06:19] <crazyhorse> it has nothing about having to use that USB on a mac after you've created it
[06:20] <bignob> how do I fix that
[06:20] <bazhang> !checkinstall | ItsMeLenny
[06:20] <Ben64> bignob: stop using youtube and flash?
[06:20] <EmLeX> Ben64: wins the best answer of the day award
[06:20] <bignob> Yep. So I use linux so I need to change the websites I visit  because linux can't handle them
[06:20] <aznblur> bignob: I had the same problem and just used vlc to watch youtube videos
[06:20] <ObrienDave> crazyhorse: you are trying to install ubuntu on a PC not a MAC, correct?
[06:20] <bignob> great suggestion
[06:20] <recursion> pray flash dies faster and they finish the html5 beta
[06:20] <bignob> how can I use vlc to watch youtube?
[06:21] <crazyhorse> ObrienDave: yes
[06:21] <Ben64> bignob: download the videos from youtube and play em in mplayer
[06:21] <aznblur> bignob: ctrl+n, paste in youtube linx
[06:21] <aznblur> *link
[06:21] <ItsMeLenny> ah, thanks bazhang i'll look into it
[06:21] <ObrienDave> crazyhorse: then do NOT convert the ISO to DMG
[06:21] <bignob> ctrl+n makes a new window
[06:21] <aznblur> In settings, advanced, if you go to Input / Codec, you can set the default quality
[06:21] <crazyhorse> ObrienDave: there is no DMG on the USB stick
[06:21] <recursion> youtube gives me an option to view in html5 or flash on some videos
[06:21] <ItsMeLenny> at the same time i have found some deb packages, how do i find out if im on 12.04.2 or 12.04.4
[06:22] <lasers> bignob: Try extension or scripts that will stretch the video instead of flash's full-screen feature.
[06:22] <crazyhorse> ObrienDave: i have a "working" 64bit live usb disk with which to do with it..  the fact i created it on the mac i don't think should make a difference
[06:22] <Ben64> ItsMeLenny: lsb_release -d
[06:22] <ItsMeLenny> recursion, http://www.youtube.com/html5
[06:22] <crazyhorse> the guide i pasted is how you setup usb sticks on a mac
[06:22] <ItsMeLenny> thanks Ben64
[06:22] <crazyhorse> not for a mac
[06:22] <Ben64> crazyhorse: no, its for mac
[06:22] <crazyhorse> really :/
[06:22] <Ben64> yes really
[06:22] <ObrienDave> ok, sorry, the 'live' part boot fine, yes?
[06:22] <bignob> well that sux so there's no reasonable solution
[06:22] <ItsMeLenny> hmm i'm on .2
[06:22] <aznblur> bignob: media -> open network stream
[06:23] <crazyhorse> documentation needs to be worded more carefully then it says "›Create a bootable USB stick on OS X"
[06:23] <recursion> doesnt matter where u made if you got it to go through the installation
[06:23] <EmLeX> aznblur: i did actually not know you could just take a youtube url and past it into vlc. its so mutch more stable lol
[06:23] <Ben64> crazyhorse: it's fairly clear
[06:23] <EmLeX> thank you
[06:23] <bignob> what is the default video player for ubuntu
[06:23] <Ben64> totem i think
[06:23] <bignob> Ok cool
[06:24] <crazyhorse> Ben64: it's not at all clear.. from the title it makes it sound like "if you want to create an ubuntu live usb" and you happen to what to create the usb from a mac.. use this guide
[06:24] <bignob> it works in totem guys
[06:24] <aznblur> EmLeX: yep! no crazy CPU usage as well. Go to Input / Codecs in advanced options to set default quality
[06:24] <histo> crazyhorse: even on a mac the iso files are hybrid files now. So you can just dd the iso to the usb stick and boot it in another machine.
[06:24] <ObrienDave> crazyhorse: does the USB boot into 'live' mode now???
[06:24] <crazyhorse> ObrienDave: yes
[06:24] <recursion> ya, youtube dont want you to miss out on their ads by using videolan
[06:24] <crazyhorse> ObrienDave: and it runs the installer fine
[06:24] <bignob> but fast forward doesn't work very well
[06:24] <bignob> I have adblock o nfirfox anyway
[06:24] <histo> Is the server kernel any different from the desktop now?  I just want to install a friggen cli system and the mini.iso is hanging.
[06:24] <lasers> bignob: Stupid hack is to make a xdotool script that will move your mouse a bit every 5 minutes. Boom! No blank screen. :O
[06:24] <Ben64> i find it easier to just download youtube vids
[06:25] <bignob> lasers: well you can turn off lock the screen in the settings
[06:25] <bignob> but I want it to lock if there is no movie playing
[06:25] <riddrib> How can remote pc in ubunut?
[06:25] <bignob> just if there is a movie playing it shouldn't lck
[06:25] <bignob> i watch the movie from my bed so it is annoying to get up
[06:25] <Ben64> riddrib: ssh
[06:25] <EmLeX> aznblur: im there but where do i set def quality
[06:26] <lasers> bignob: If you can disable screensaver via commands, then make aliases so you don't have to change settings every time you want to watch a movie.
[06:26] <EmLeX> nvm found it
[06:27] <bignob> i'll just set it to 1hour
[06:27] <Braden`> Hello
[06:27] <Braden`> I am using VirtualBox, and I just installed Ubuntu 13.04 as my guest OS, and installed the VBoxGuestAdditions, but whenever I try to boot into xwindows, I just see a flashing blank cursor and nothing else.  How do I fix this?
[06:28] <ObrienDave> *head spinning, need smoke break*
[06:28]  * ObrienDave is away: Snoozin
[06:29] <Parsi> ObrienDave: can i make a disk image and restore it to another machine?
[06:31] <recursion> vmware could be considered way beyone the scope of ubuntuhelp
[06:31] <Braden`> If anyone said anything, I missed it
[06:31] <Braden`> Got disconnected
[06:34] <ObrienDave> Parsi, i would think so. not sure how to, though
[06:37] <cristian_c> Hi
[06:37] <cristian_c> There is a mysterious problem with my laptop. I mean, when I run the suspension, after the restore there are problems. The first of which is that the Chromium browser will no longer open (but it also does with Chrome) and if you launch it from the terminal, an error is returned.
[06:38] <first-time-here> hi
[06:38] <crazyhorse> if i install ubuntu.. can i repartition the drive later to make room for windows without deleting anything?
[06:38] <cristian_c> Also, when I try to logout or reboot the pc freezes, meaning that when I try to restart, the screen goes black and hangs there indefinitely (in the case of the log, it appears the shell with the messages, but it hangs too) and I have to brutally shut down the pc.
[06:38] <cristian_c> I tried several solutions, from uswsusp to tuxonice, to create a special file in /etc/pm/config.d/, but these attempts have not been successful. I also checked the syslog, but also did not provide significant information about the origin of the problem
[06:38] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[06:39] <first-time-here> i'm trying to compile Samplicate and i'm not sure if i'm do it ok, this is what i get http://pastebin.com/NxmKadaH
[06:39] <ItsMeLenny> cristian_c, there are ways to repartition the drive later, but it has the potential of corrupting data
[06:39] <cristian_c> ItsMeLenny, I don't undestand
[06:39] <ObrienDave> crazyhorse: there is a utility to do that. don't remember the name
[06:40] <cristian_c> *understand
[06:40] <recursion> search ubuntu shrink partition?
[06:40] <cristian_c> ItsMeLenny, I've got problems with suspension
[06:40] <ItsMeLenny> cristian_c, whats not to understand
[06:40] <ItsMeLenny> "can i repartition the drive later to make room for windows without deleting anything"
[06:40] <cristian_c> ItsMeLenny, I've not to repart my drive
[06:41] <cristian_c> ItsMeLenny, my partitons are good :)
[06:41] <ObrienDave> Lenny, that was crazyhorse who asked that question
[06:41] <cristian_c> *partitions
[06:41] <recursion> to nick that begin with cr
[06:42] <recursion> two*
[06:42] <histo> recursion: you can use <tab> to autocomplete the nick
[06:42] <ObrienDave> crazyhorse: partitionmanager will do that. as always, there is a risk
[06:43] <ItsMeLenny> ObrienDave, cristian_c, my bad, i just looked at the c's and they were the same lengtj
[06:43] <recursion> not if you're using Hexchat in windows like me
[06:43] <crazyhorse> obriandave; ah ok.. well
[06:43] <crazyhorse> i can't get the thing to boot..
[06:43] <Rannamaari> what thing to boot ?
[06:43] <crazyhorse> Rannamaari: long story...
[06:43] <Rannamaari> haha  okay
[06:44] <ObrienDave> AFAIK ubuntu uses half your memory as a ramdisk
[06:44] <crazyhorse> ok.. i just reinstalled again for the 5th time
[06:44] <crazyhorse> except this time without any customisation options
[06:44] <crazyhorse> and the machine just booted
[06:44] <ObrienDave> YAY!!!
[06:44] <crazyhorse> so if i got to customised the partitions
[06:44] <crazyhorse> it won't boot
[06:44] <Rannamaari> c'mon
[06:44] <Rannamaari> what won't boot
[06:45] <histo> crazyhorse: create a /boot partition 200MB or so formatted fat32  hopefuly the installer will put the EFI stuff there.
[06:45] <ObrienDave> now, install gparted and see what size your swap is
[06:45] <histo> crazyhorse: I've told you that you have an EFI system and you need a /boot partition.
[06:45] <WeThePeople> hi
[06:45] <histo> WeThePeople: hola
[06:46] <crazyhorse> ObrienDave: 31.69GB
[06:47] <ObrienDave> see??? i said something about swap being the same size as memory ;))
[06:47] <crazyhorse> that's a lot of disk-space :9
[06:47] <crazyhorse> :(
[06:47] <crazyhorse> why does it need "any" swap/
[06:47] <histo> crazyhorse: It doesn't have to be that big. Only if you want to hibernate
[06:47] <crazyhorse> histo: nah, never want to hibernate
[06:48] <crazyhorse> i was thinking of just giving it 1gb
[06:48] <crazyhorse> since it shoul never use it anwyay
[06:48] <ObrienDave> how many partitions on drive now?
[06:48] <histo> crazyhorse: Once RAM fills it will use swap to avoid the system running out of RAM. It will also cache data there that is not needed as much
[06:48] <recursion> unless its a Hadoop machine
[06:48] <jackbrown> how can i force a  vmware machine to use a specific AUDIO IN/OUT ?
[06:48]  * histo bets there is a /boot partition now
[06:49] <crazyhorse> 2.. /dev/sda1 ext4, /dev/sda2 extended... subone at /dev/sda5 linux-swap
[06:49] <ObrienDave> nope. PFFFFFT!!! LOL
[06:49] <histo> crazyhorse: pastebin the output of parted -l
[06:49] <crazyhorse> the ext4 has a mount point of / and a boot flag
[06:49] <ObrienDave> YAY!
[06:49] <histo> crazyhorse: you probably weren't marking / as bootable or something silly before.
[06:50] <crazyhorse> http://goo.gl/rWfAS
[06:50] <crazyhorse> histo: / before wasn't marked as bootable
[06:51] <crazyhorse> but there are no options to do that in the installation
[06:51] <histo> crazyhorse: yes there are.. when you created your "custom" partitionis
[06:51] <crazyhorse> i'd have to create the partion, install, then go back into the lived.. open up gparted and mark it as bootable
[06:51] <crazyhorse> ok i'll reboot and have a check
[06:52] <histo> crazyhorse: also if this is an ssd you may want to add the noatime,discard options to fstab. And think about mounting /tmp and browsers cache to tmpfs in ram
[06:52] <ObrienDave> nope, when you use 'something else', you can select bootable
[06:52] <crazyhorse> oh ok
[06:52] <crazyhorse> i'll try again
[06:52] <crazyhorse> histo: ohh nice..
[06:52] <crazyhorse> histo: is that because i've got tons of ram?
[06:54] <histo> crazyhorse: no it's to preserve your SSDs from a ton of writes they don't need.
[06:54] <crazyhorse> obriandave: ok.. i'm resintalling now.. i can't see any option for boot
[06:54] <crazyhorse> except for the drop down menu that says "Device for boot loader installation"
[06:55] <crazyhorse> which i have selected /dev/sda
[06:55] <histo> crazyhorse: when you create the partition there is a flag to make it bootable
[06:55] <crazyhorse> histo: i'm in the installer... there are no flags anywhere to set it as bootable
[06:56] <crazyhorse> i'm not in gparted
[06:56] <ObrienDave> yes, you are. do you see the partition map? that's gparted
[06:56] <histo> crazyhorse: edit hte partition you are creating.
[06:57] <crazyhorse> histo: ok.. i did that
[06:57] <crazyhorse> it has 3 options
[06:57] <crazyhorse> Use As: (file sytemt type).  Format the partition: (greyed out tick box) and Mount point: /
[06:57] <ObrienDave> yup, that's it
[06:58] <ObrienDave> leave mount point as /
[06:58] <crazyhorse> yep i've done that
[06:58] <crazyhorse> there's nothing about marking at as bootable or adding any tags though?
[06:58] <ObrienDave> should be. hang on a sec
[06:58] <histo> crazyhorse: there should be a box to check and make it bootable.
[06:59] <crazyhorse> histo: there's not.. there is a drop down list
[06:59] <crazyhorse> labeled "Device for boot loader installation" .. thats it
[06:59] <crazyhorse> iv'e clicked through every menu option
[07:00] <ObrienDave> right click on the MAIN drive partition
[07:00] <crazyhorse> there is no right click option
[07:00] <crazyhorse> i'm in the installer remember and NOT gparted
[07:00] <crazyhorse> is there a website i can post screenshots from my phone?
[07:01] <ObrienDave> it's using gparted to do the work
[07:01] <Senjai_> crazyhorse: imgur.com
[07:02] <crazyhorse> obraindave: yeah it's not giving me any options
[07:02] <WeThePeople> cool computer company = pssclabs.com
[07:02] <ObrienDave> give me a minute to fire up Vbox
[07:02] <crazyhorse> :D
[07:03] <ObrienDave> let me fire up an install disk in Vbox. brb
[07:04] <crazyhorse> i'm installing imgur on my phone so at least i can take screenshots of the UI
[07:04] <isaias> hello. What is ubuntu's channel for...uhhh, arm? I need more information about nexus 7 and ubuntu
[07:04] <ObrienDave> this channel is for Ubuntu support
[07:05] <wilee-nilee> isaias, #ubuntu-touch has images
[07:05] <histo> !phone | isaias
[07:06] <triforce> hjhj
[07:08] <WinterXorg> Hey guys
[07:08] <WinterXorg> Is it possible to set the permissions for a file in order to allow read/write but not delete?
[07:08] <WinterXorg> Also the file is in my home folder
[07:09] <qin> WinterXorg: sticky bit?
[07:10] <WinterXorg> ?
[07:10] <crazyhorse> http://imgur.com/tmFKrdY
[07:10] <histo> WinterXorg: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/869536/linux-directory-permissions-read-write-but-not-delete
[07:10] <ObrienDave> crazyhorse: dang, your right. you can only select which partition for installing grub
[07:10] <histo> WinterXorg: although if they have write access to a file they could just delete the contents. So your situation is silly
[07:11] <crazyhorse> ObrianDave: ok.. so how about this
[07:11] <crazyhorse> install
[07:11] <crazyhorse> reboot into livecd.. then go and modify the partition?
[07:11] <WinterXorg> It's an archive
[07:11] <crazyhorse> histo: it's good for accidental deletions
[07:12] <crazyhorse> histo: i've got the policy on a few of my servers
[07:12] <qin> WinterXorg: very sweet link histo has send you, atr may be even more usefull
[07:12] <histo> crazyhorse: click on /dev/sda1  and do you have an options button
[07:12] <WinterXorg> Yeah thank you histo. Reading right now
[07:12] <azar> how to find out a file is a system file??
[07:12] <crazyhorse> histo: just change
[07:12] <qin> azar: locate or find
[07:13] <azar> qin: let me see!
[07:13] <histo> azar: file /path/to/whatever
[07:13] <crazyhorse> WinterXorg: if you need anything more advanced look at the ACL extensions (setfacl/getfacl) ... awful error messages .. but it works
[07:14] <qin> azar: omg, misreaded you...
[07:14] <histo> WinterXorg: I think making the directory r-x and the files rw- could possibly work for your situation and be easiest
[07:14] <histo> WinterXorg: but you won't be able to make anything new
[07:14] <ObrienDave> crazyhorse: now that looks correct. it might cough without a swap partition. but i agree with histo, you want to keep tmp stuff in ramdisk
[07:14] <Ben64> WinterXorg: what are you trying to accomplish?
[07:14] <WinterXorg> Prevent the deletion of a Firefox extension
[07:15] <crazyhorse> ObrianDave: yeah.. if it makes it faster.. that sounds great.  Is there any downside?
[07:15] <WinterXorg> It's stored in a .xpi file which is basically a renamed zip
[07:15] <Ben64> WinterXorg: why would you delete it?
[07:15] <azar> qin: I though you mean "locate" or "find" command, am I wrong??
[07:15] <ObrienDave> not really if only for temp things
[07:15] <WinterXorg> The extension restricts acces to onlly a couple of sites for a period of time (in my case study websites)
[07:16] <WinterXorg> So I need to make sure it's not trivial to bypass it
[07:16] <qin> azar: do you want to find a file or find out if file is system file?
[07:16] <ObrienDave> with all of your ram there should not be a problem
[07:16] <azar> second one :)
[07:16] <crazyhorse> ObrienDave: is there an online guide for doing that?
[07:16] <azar> qin: the second one I mean
[07:16] <histo> WinterXorg: put it in the system wide plugins directory and the users aren't the owner. Rather than putting it in their respective homes
[07:17] <crazyhorse> or do i just create a "ramdisk" of maybe 2 or 3gb and then start setting up apps to use it
[07:17] <qin> azar: then: file /path/to/file
[07:17] <ObrienDave> hmm, not sure. maybe you can talk histo into telling you again
[07:17] <WinterXorg> That should work
[07:17] <histo> crazyhorse: What's that? tmpfs?
[07:17] <Ben64> winterxorg: or make root the owner
[07:17] <crazyhorse> histo: yeah
[07:18] <ObrienDave> histo> crazyhorse: also if this is an ssd you may want to add the noatime,discard options to fstab. And think about mounting /tmp and browsers cache to tmpfs in ram
[07:18] <WinterXorg> but that would require starting firefox with root privileges
[07:18] <histo> crazyhorse: let me find you a guide for it. you just create mounts in your fstab.  Also make sure you use noatime and discard options there since you are on SSD
[07:18] <Ben64> noit wouldn't...
[07:18] <crazyhorse> ok.. is this in gparted?
[07:18] <histo> WinterXorg: No system wide plugins directory
[07:18] <histo> crazyhorse: no in your fstab
[07:18] <ObrienDave> no, this is different
[07:19] <histo> crazyhorse: let me paste my fstab hodl up
[07:19] <crazyhorse> k
[07:19] <crazyhorse> thanks :D
[07:19] <Ben64> system plugin directory is better, but people can still block extensions locally in firefox
[07:19] <Braden`> How do I set the system to load lightdm at boot?
[07:19] <WinterXorg> Not this one. It's pretty much bulletproof from within the application
[07:20] <Ben64> about:addons ... diable
[07:20] <histo> crazyhorse: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5699390/  this is my /etc/fstab on my SSD box.
[07:20] <histo> crazyhorse: I also have the swappiness set to 1 to avoid using swap on my SSD
[07:21] <WinterXorg> about:addons, about:config and about:support are disabled
[07:21] <Ben64> or so you think
[07:21] <ObrienDave> crazyhorse: you want to minimize writes to a SSD as much as possible. writes will burn up the chips eventually
[07:21] <WinterXorg> They realy are :)
[07:22] <Ben64> 20 seconds and i'd be past it
[07:22] <deckard> between lubuntu and xfce which is lighter on resources?
[07:22] <Ben64> but if you want to use an extension to replace what should be a network based thing, thats cool
[07:22] <ObrienDave> lubuntu probably
[07:22] <Ben64> lubuntu deckard
[07:22] <deckard> ty
[07:23] <WinterXorg> Ok. I'm using a modified leechblock extension. Select prevent opening about:config in the options then go into lockdown mode
[07:23] <histo> WinterXorg: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[07:23] <deckard> do you think it would adversely affect gaming?
[07:23] <Ben64> no, its still ubuntu
[07:23] <ObrienDave> depends on the requirements of the game
[07:23] <histo> WinterXorg: put the .so in there owned by root:root with -rw-r--r--
[07:25] <WinterXorg> It's an extension so I have to convert it into a plugin. Is that possible?
[07:26] <deckard> the game can be very graphic intensive if set to it. i generally thought that lubuntu being the lightest would allow the game to take advantage of the surplus . I am wrong?
[07:26] <ObrienDave> no, you are not wrong
[07:27] <qin> WinterXorg: If you want temporarly allow only few site and irc, you probably want to use ufw and disable sudo.
[07:27] <SENSORI> ciao
[07:27] <deckard> does anybody have that link to the resource usage graph for the competing desktop
[07:27] <Ben64> deckard: what game
[07:28] <deckard> Second Life
[07:28] <SENSORI> !list
[07:28] <Ben64> well not having unity couldn't hurt
[07:28] <Ben64> SENSORI: why always !list ????
[07:29] <WinterXorg> reading about ufw now
[07:30] <ObrienDave> i've had trouble with secondlife and OpenGL since 12.04
[07:32] <WinterXorg> Silly me there was a global extensions folder togheter with the plugins one
[07:36] <moses> should I install 12 or 13?
[07:37] <ObrienDave> moses: 12.04 is the current LTS version. 13.04 is the current version
[07:37] <moses> I will be using fortran and binaries and coding a lot
[07:38] <moses> I am relativly new to linux as wel
[07:38] <moses> well
[07:39] <savagecroc> moses: fortran what, 77?
[07:39] <moses> advice?
[07:39] <jjosh> for desktop, i'd say 13.04
[07:39] <moses> fortran 95
[07:39] <moses> I will be remotely accessing this a lot
[07:39] <recursion> i dont get why the software center shows such an old version of Qt 2
[07:39] <moses> so 13 is better?
[07:40] <savagecroc> i always stick with the LTS versions
[07:40] <Braden`> I have xwindows loaded.  I started it using lightdm.  If I leave it alone, the lock screen appears correctly, but when I enter my password I only see a black screen with my mouse cursor.
[07:40] <Ben64> 13.04 is newer, 12.04 is supported for much longer
[07:40] <Braden`> 13.04 is buggy as hell
[07:41] <ObrienDave> 13.04 gives you newer versions, 12.04 is a bit more stable
[07:41] <moses> I thought 12 was buggy and 13 had less bugs?
[07:41] <Braden`> From the xwindows video problems to the installer's partitioning system getting stuck in an endless error loop... yea
[07:41] <Ben64> 12.04 is LTS and is more stable
[07:41] <Ben64> and its 12.04, not just "12"
[07:41] <Ben64> because there is also a 12.10
[07:41] <Braden`> 12.10 is good
[07:41] <savagecroc> what's the next LTS version?
[07:42] <ObrienDave> and a 12.04.2
[07:42] <Ben64> every 2 years. 12.04 -> 14.04 are LTS
[07:42] <gijoe73> !list
[07:43] <savagecroc> what do i use for editing config files on ubuntu? (i.e. just plain txt)
[07:43] <Braden`> I have xwindows loaded.  I started it using lightdm.  If I leave it alone, the lock screen appears correctly, but when I enter my password I only see a black screen with my mouse cursor.
[07:43] <Braden`> Does anyone know how to fix that?
[07:43] <Ben64> savagecroc: nano, gedit, vim, edit, and tons more
[07:44] <savagecroc> .. yeah i meant GUI
[07:44] <Ben64> Braden`: what exactly do you mean xwindows and started it with lightdm
[07:44] <savagecroc> ah gedit :)
[07:45] <recursion> sublime unlimited trail?
[07:45] <recursion> trial^
[07:45] <Braden`> Ben64:  I am using Ubuntu installed as a guest OS in virtualbox.  I installed Ubuntu 13.04, installed guest additions, restarted ubuntu, and when it tries to load xwindows, I get a black screen with a blinking cursor.  If I use the console and run lightdm, then I get the login screen in xwindows, but when I try to log in, I get a blank black screen with only the mouse cursor
[07:46] <Ben64> Braden`: just so you know... xwindows doesn't exist anymore
[07:47] <ObrienDave> Braden: that is probably a Vbox configuration problem, not an Ubuntu problem
[07:47] <moses> can you SSH into a ubuntu desktop
[07:47] <moses> box
[07:47] <moses> ?
[07:47] <recursion> xfiles either?
[07:47] <Braden`> ObrienDave:  I don't see how
[07:48] <Ben64> moses: if you install ssh server, sure
[07:48] <Braden`> Ben64:  What do you call it then?
[07:48] <Ben64> xorg
[07:48] <Braden`> The GUI?
[07:48] <moses> perfect
[07:48] <Braden`> Ah ok
[07:48] <Braden`> xorg
[07:48] <Ben64> anyway, its probably because of 3d unity that you can't get to anything
[07:48] <Braden`> Ben64:  I would actually be happy with a 2d gui
[07:48] <Ben64> try installing a different DE or maybe unity 2d or something
[07:48] <Braden`> Can I install gnome shell?
[07:49] <Ben64> !info gnome-shell
[07:49] <Ben64> yep
[07:49] <ObrienDave> Braden: what is the host OS?
[07:49] <Braden`> Windows 8
[07:49] <Braden`> So if I want to install gnome, I use gnome-shell?
[07:50] <Braden`> err I install the gnome-shell package?
[07:50] <Ben64> yeah, should work
[07:50] <Braden`> Ok, thanks
[07:52] <histo> !notunity | Braden`
[07:55] <recursion> does the bot know anything about Qt?
[07:55] <ObrienDave> not sure
[07:55] <ObrienDave> !qt
[07:55] <Braden`> Thank you
[07:57] <recursion> !codeblocks
[07:58] <mapps> hi
[07:58] <mapps> could someone help me please
[07:58] <mapps> :D
[07:58] <ObrienDave> mapps: just ask :)
[07:58] <Ben64> not until you ask a question
[07:59] <arquebus> recursion, what do you want to know about qt?
[07:59] <mapps> ok ...i cannot get my ubjntu machine to resolve any domains or ping any external IPS..ive checked the output of route..also checked ifconfig and I also checked resolvconf and set 2 NS (2 opendsns nameservers0
[07:59] <mapps> but
[07:59] <mapps> still cant reach any external hosts ping google.com / nslookup ec all fails
[08:00] <ObrienDave> wired or wireless connection?
[08:00] <mapps> but i can ping local machines so packets arent getting out of the network - im stuck with what to do/look at now
[08:00] <mapps> wireless
[08:00] <mapps> also checked iptables -L and nothing that could stop it
[08:00] <aeon-ltd> mapps: disable iptables and check
[08:00] <aeon-ltd> unless security is a huge concern
[08:00] <mapps> thee's no chains on it..its a fresh install
[08:01] <mapps> also not sure how to disable it as such
[08:01] <ObrienDave> firewall issue?
[08:01] <aeon-ltd> iptables^
[08:01] <mapps> well i dont see how there's no firewall -- ive got no chains/rules set in iptables
[08:01] <aeon-ltd> unless other machines on the network can't get outside either
[08:01] <mapps> na they can
[08:02] <crazyhorse> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5699390/
[08:02] <mapps> how can i disable iptables then? as it shows no rules
[08:02] <aeon-ltd> mapps: probably not worth trying if there are no rules
[08:02] <mapps> ok
[08:02] <mapps> so what else:)
[08:03] <Ben64> mapps: can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:03] <ObrienDave> crazyhorse: looks good. i'm NOT a fstab guru
[08:03] <mapps> nbope
[08:03] <mapps> cant ping any IP/domain outside the LAN
[08:03] <Ben64> mapps: then you have a networking problem, doesn't sound like an ubuntu issue
[08:04] <savagecroc> obriandave: sorry,  that was just a copy paste
[08:04] <savagecroc> this is me on the actual ubuntu machine
[08:04] <mapps> but how? my other machines are fine - and the machine can reach other machines
[08:04] <mapps> so i can connect to ubuntu from my netbook and ping other local machines from ubuntu
[08:04] <ObrienDave> maybe your router is at its IP address limit?
[08:05] <FlowerPot> hi, i have multiple screens .. is it possible to choose the position of the unity bar for each screen?
[08:05] <ObrienDave> no, guess not
[08:05] <mapps> na ive only got like 3 machnes connecyed and it's also reaching local IPs
[08:05] <BadPerson> My install is being strange... for each second, the first half-second is frozen, and the final half-second it updates normally.
[08:05] <Ben64> mapps: what is the output of "route"
[08:05] <walltender>  Is there a utility that specify power threshold and whne it exceed, shut down the corresponding application?
[08:06] <dr_willis> FlowerPot:  you can have it show or not show on other monitors.. but you dont move it to the bottom/top
[08:06] <ObrienDave> savagecroc: cool, working good for you, so far?
[08:06] <savagecroc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5699474/  << should i be adding discard to the / drive?
[08:07] <ObrienDave> savagecroc: not sure. don't know a thing about fstab
[08:07] <savagecroc> if i want to setup an identical computer to this one should i just run through all the installation procedures again.. or can i do some copy/paste migration thing and then rename the user account?
[08:07] <sianhulo> there is a tool in ubuntu that tests your connection with diferent dns servers and make a graph afterwards. However, I don't remember its name, does someone knoe the name?
[08:07] <FlowerPot> my i idea was to have it on the left screen on the left side and on the right screen on the right side .. but w/e just thinking of how to make my workstation perfect :D
[08:07] <histo> !clone | savagecroc
[08:08] <dr_willis> FlowerPot:  you cant move the left side panel.
[08:08] <savagecroc> histo: thanks
[08:08] <savagecroc> histo: do you know if i need to add the discard option?
[08:08] <histo> savagecroc: is it an SSD?
[08:08] <ObrienDave> histo: learn something new EVERY day :))
[08:08] <savagecroc> histo: yeah
[08:08] <savagecroc> i only have a single ssd in the machine
[08:08] <mapps> Ben64,  http://pastebin.com/0Asp4yb3
[08:08] <histo> savagecroc: then I would add it.
[08:08] <mapps> all looked fine to me
[08:08] <FlowerPot> okay, thanks anyways :)
[08:09] <histo> Savage_CL: http://www.howtogeek.com/62761/how-to-tweak-your-ssd-in-ubuntu-for-better-performance/
[08:10] <isaias> hello. What is ubuntu's channel for...uhhh, arm? I need more information about nexus 7 and ubuntu
[08:10] <ObrienDave> shouldnt <IP_ADDRESS> be a gateway also?
[08:10] <dr_willis> !arm
[08:10] <dr_willis> !touch
[08:10] <Ben64> mapps: except you don't have a gateway
[08:10] <ObrienDave> isaias: told you that once before
[08:11] <mapps> ah damnit sorry i typed it out wrong
[08:11] <mapps> i had to type it anually
[08:11] <mapps> default has a gateway of <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:11] <crazyhorse> histo: should i create one for /tmp as well?
[08:12] <Ben64> mapps: and 1.1 is your router?
[08:12] <mapps> yep
[08:12] <Ben64> then... dunno whats going on
[08:12] <mapps> damnit
[08:12] <mapps> this sucks
[08:13] <Ben64> try ethernet?
[08:13] <mapps> ive checked route/ifconfig /retsrated networking ..ive checked resolvconf and changed ns
[08:13] <mapps> i cant router downstairs
[08:13] <Ben64> just to test
[08:13] <dr_willis> test with a live cd . if that also fails.. it may be some odd hardware issue
[08:14] <mapps> it worked yesterday see i then shutdown went t work..come back ran apt-get update and it failed
[08:14] <mapps> no idea why
[08:14] <expert> hi
[08:14] <mapps> weird
[08:14] <expert> guys
[08:14] <dr_willis> mapps:  try the older kernels in the grub menus.. see if any of those woork.. would alsobe a good test to try
[08:14] <mapps> ok
[08:14] <mapps> thanks
[08:14] <Guest74289> how to create a customize a ubuntu installation disk
[08:15] <dr_willis> !remasterr
[08:15] <dr_willis> !remaster
[08:15] <appy_kudos> remastersys
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> sianhulo: there are few dns tools in software centre you might wanna checkout
[08:16] <Guest74289> can we modify the ubuntu looks with it?
[08:17] <mapps> hmm
[08:17] <mapps> wtf
[08:17] <SigmaArcher> What's up?
[08:17] <xeno-k> nothing
[08:17] <mapps> damnit still nothing
[08:18] <mapps> um
[08:18] <lotuspsychje> !language | mapps
[08:18] <sianhulo> lotuspsychje, found it, its name is "namebench"
[08:18] <mapps> dr_willis,  i cant no older kernels listed when i boot
[08:18] <mapps> sorry
[08:18] <lotuspsychje> !yay | sianhulo
[08:18] <dr_willis> mapps:  you did look in that sub menu under grub?
[08:18] <sianhulo> ubottu, lotuspsychje, thanks
[08:18] <mapps> rebooted and it comes up ubuntu / win7 and memtest
[08:18] <mapps> didnt see anything else
[08:19] <xeno-k> can i double boot winxp with lubuntu
[08:19] <dr_willis> mapps:  you could install some older kernels i guess as a test.. but  thats odd you have none.. unless its a brand new install
[08:19] <mapps> yes xeno-k
[08:19] <mapps> ya it is
[08:19] <dr_willis> mapps:  you are using a wubi install?
[08:19] <mapps> a new install few days old
[08:19] <mapps> nope
[08:19] <mapps> ubuntu 13.04 server install
[08:20] <xeno-k> all the ping timeouts remember me an pseydo-hacker...
[08:20] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | xeno-k
[08:20] <dr_willis> and networking works  in win7 properly?
[08:20] <mapps> yea
[08:20] <recursion> lol, i think upgrade for 12.04 is replacing the entire installation
[08:20] <mapps> and it did work yeserday dr_willis  it worked then i turned it on ran update and now wont work
[08:21] <dr_willis> id see if a live cd works.. and jot down its settings. if it does.  ;)
[08:21] <lotuspsychje> recursion: not interesting tryin 13.04 clean?
[08:21] <crazyhorse> .
[08:22] <mapps> ok what settings yto check just so I know - I checked resolve.conf and ythe networking settings i cant see what else to check
[08:22] <mapps> on a livecd
[08:22] <mapps> to compare to this install
[08:22] <dr_willis> i just use network manager and see what ip and other info it gets.
[08:22] <dr_willis> i alwys use dhcp ;)
[08:23] <dr_willis> my router assigns ip and info  to each  mac address.. so mu stuff rareely changes
[08:23] <recursion> so does my neighbors
[08:23] <xeno-k> first part
[08:24] <xeno-k> * bitchchecker<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Quit (Ping timeout#)
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 why do you kick me
 can't you discus normally
 answer!
[08:24] <FloodBot1> xeno-k: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:24] <Ben64> xeno-k: don't do that in here
[08:24] <xeno-k> sorry
[08:25] <xeno-k> its my first time in irc
[08:26] <Name141> Is there still a super duper fast way to install Spotify?
[08:26] <mapps> ok thanks
[08:27] <xeno-k> how i ping on ubuntu??
[08:27] <histo> xeno-k: ping someip
[08:28] <lotuspsychje> Name141: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/01/how-to-install-spotify-in-ubuntu-12-04-12-10
[08:30] <MestreLion> how can I know for how long a given session is idle (no user input)? all sources indicate D-Bus org.freedesktop.ScreenSaver, but I don't have such method here, only org.gnome.ScreenSaver, and it has things like Inhibit and set_active, but thing that looks like an idle counter
[08:31] <MestreLion> but *nothing* that looks like an idle counter
[08:33] <MestreLion> btw, using 12.04
[08:36] <Naranek> I'm running kubuntu 12.04 and I see that bug 256242 is finally solved, but the fix will be released with KDE 4.11. If I want to have the fix earlier I need to build the program (kwin) from source, right?
[08:36] <Naranek> not that bug, the kde bug :) https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=256242
[08:37] <MestreLion> anyone?
[08:37] <Name141> lotu.. oh he left
[08:37] <Naranek> I'd like some pointers about how to go forward with this..
[08:38] <Naranek> I'm thinking that there must be many ways to get there, but what's the best one? :)
[08:41] <dr_willis> Naranek:  or find a ppa with newer versions
[08:42] <MestreLion> also, who is supposed to provide org.freedesktop.Screensaver ? was it removed in 12.04 ?
[08:43] <dr_willis> gnome devs  and ubuntu devs perhaps. have been slowly trimming out screensavers it seems with each release
[08:47] <Naranek> dr_willis: That would do it yes... but didn't find any. 4.11 is very early in development
[08:49] <MestreLion> dr_willis: "providing" as in which package installs org.freedesktop.Screensaver D-Bus?
[08:50] <MestreLion> (or any  other method that givs me the session idle time?)
[08:50] <dr_willis> askubuntu.com might have some info on getting idle time..  other then that. no idea
[08:51] <dr_willis> or  parent of askubuntu.com for more general linux/systemadmin type questions may have a broadere base and a way.
[08:51] <MestreLion> dr_willis: I did already... all answers point org.freedesktop.Screensaved D-Bus
[08:51] <MestreLion> the "broader" method seems to be this D-Bus call, which is pointed out in most answers since 2009
[08:52] <dr_willis> stackexchange.com or  whatever  its called.. often i find  some obsure old skool way to do things at some of the admin  type question sitees
[08:52] <MestreLion> so I guess Ubuntu 12.04 is the exception... and I wonder what is the scenario with that particular release
[08:52] <dr_willis> wonder if theres a d-bus channel  -  i dont code any more. so dont get into it.
[08:52] <MestreLion> but that's not a D-Bus question... its about how Ubuntu 12.04 is set up...
[08:52] <dr_willis> there was some chanves from dconf to gconf? or was it the other way?
[08:54] <MestreLion> it looks like all other distros (or previous versions of ubuntu), and also KDE, use the org.freedesktop.Screensaver D-Bus API for that
[08:54] <MestreLion> dr_willis: gconf was deprecated in favor of dconf (actually, in favor of gsettings which uses dconf as a backbone)
[08:57] <tortik> Why are some packages in ubuntu's repos not updated (app's old version) and can I build new package and send it to repo?
[08:57] <histo> tortik: stability
[08:58] <histo> tortik: you can build a new version for the next release of ubuntu if the package isn't being maintained. /j #ubuntu-dev
[08:59] <tortik> histo: but in official sites of some apps there are new stable versions. Thanks for direction
[08:59] <ObrienDave> torkit: you can also install the PPA for 'bleeding edge" apps if you like
[08:59] <CasW> Hey guys, the latest kernel update has broken my setup again, no Unity... How do I revert to the previous kernel?
[09:00] <ObrienDave> select the older kernel from the grub menu
[09:01] <MonkeyDust> CasW  !
[09:01] <bekks> CasW: Or fix the graphics driver installation.
[09:01] <CasW> MonkeyDust!
[09:01] <CasW> Bekks: I have tried different driver installations, didn't fix it last time
[09:02] <bekks> CasW: So which driver are you using then?
[09:02] <Name141> Speaking of drivers, I thought there was offical AMD drivers for the ATi 4670 still in 12.04 ?
[09:02] <CasW> At the moment I'm using fglrx-updates, but I have tried to set it to xorg-driver-etcetera-ati and that didn't fix it...
[09:03] <Name141> or did they decide to take it out of the LTS as well ?
[09:03] <bekks> CasW: With ATI/fglrx, I'm sorry, I'm out of help.
[09:04] <CasW> Hm, thanks anyway
[09:06] <dr_willis> unity/compiz seems way to fragile at times with video drivers.. had issues withmy nvidia systems (no unity panels) but the 3d drivers were definatly working according to nvidia-settings, and  gnome-shell and kde, and the 3d games. ;)   then it started working again a few days later.. i never did figure out why it was  goofing up
[09:08] <moses> hey
[09:08] <moses> how come sudo apt-get install chntpw isnt working?
[09:08] <CasW> Yeah, well, that might be, but I don't want to have to wait a few days before I can use my computer again ;-)
[09:08] <appy_kudos> how to setup scim in Ubuntu 13.04?
[09:09] <appy_kudos> i just installed scim and related packages but icon doesnt appear on panel.??
[09:10] <moses> ok i need help
[09:10] <moses> I booted from a live CD
[09:10] <moses> can i ask ubuntu to get programs from the internet
[09:10] <moses> because when i type apt-get it looks to the drive :/
[09:11] <appy_kudos> moses: try sudo apt-get update during live session
[09:11] <appy_kudos> how to setup scim in Ubuntu 13.04?
[09:11] <appy_kudos> Has anyone tried to replace ibus with scim?
[09:11] <dr_willis> !info chntpw
[09:12] <moses> what did that do?
[09:12] <moses> is chntpw already part of the live cd?
[09:12] <appy_kudos> moses: it will download package information from ubuntu servers to your computer..
[09:12] <dr_willis> moses:  i would doubt that.. its in the universe repo. be sure that repository is enabled
[09:13] <dr_willis> always try a 'sudo apt-get update'  befor installing stuff. (or at least once a day ) ;) if installing lots of stuff
[09:13] <willem> hi i have a question i want to change my window theme how can i do that ?
[09:13] <willem> i don't like adwaita
[09:13] <moses> its trying to update from the cdrom E:
[09:13] <moses> how do i make it look to the internet?
[09:13] <CasW> Hm, setting the drivers to fglrx and then re-enabling unity worked! :-D I only have this little box that says 'unsupported hardware' :-P (It's an AMD Radeon HD6790, by the way)
[09:13] <moses> what should i google for this?
[09:14] <MonkeyDust> !themes | willem use unity-tweak-tool or gnome-tweak-tool
[09:14] <dr_willis> moses:  remove the cd from your sources - using the source editor tool.. is one way to fix that
[09:14]  * dr_willis wonders if ubuntu is really calling  the cdrom    E:
[09:14] <willem> i know how to change my themes but which do i need for my window theme ? and do i need to put theme in my themes folder ?
[09:14] <appy_kudos> dr_willis: have you tried scim?
[09:15] <moses> I promise you it is
[09:15] <moses> It says E: Unable to locate package chntpw
[09:15] <dr_willis> appy_kudos:  not that i am aware of.. if its supposed to have a system tray icon - thats basically disabled in 13.04 - in favor of indicator applets
[09:15] <dr_willis> moses:  E: ---> error
[09:15] <moses> oh
[09:15] <moses> oh
[09:15] <dr_willis> W: --> warning
[09:15] <moses> TY!
[09:15] <dr_willis> you need to do a sudo apt-get update,
[09:15] <moses> i did
[09:15] <dr_willis> or be sure the universe repo is enabled.
[09:16] <dr_willis> (and be sure)
[09:16] <histo> !info chntpw | moses
[09:16] <CasW> Hm, the window decoration is still missing, though, the borders...
[09:16] <dr_willis> CasW:  if compiz crashes.. then no decorations
[09:16] <MonkeyDust> willem  explore the tools I mentioned and see which button changes the window theme
[09:16] <moses> it says W: duplicate sources.lost entry cdrom://Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS blah blah blah and then says it again about packages
[09:17] <moses> sources.list*
[09:17] <CasW> Well, compiz doesn't crash anymore, that's the thing
[09:17] <dr_willis> moses:  you hve one or more entries  in your sources.list  pointing to the CDrOM. you need to remove them.
[09:17] <dr_willis> THEN rerun sudo apt-get update
[09:17] <moses> how do i access that list?
[09:17] <moses> i can google that
[09:17] <willem> in gnome tweak tool it's window theme but whic theme catagorie must i download on the site ?$
[09:17] <dr_willis> use the software-soures gui tool  that was mentioned earlier
[09:18] <moses> where would that gui tool me?
[09:18] <moses> be
[09:18] <dr_willis> willem:  use t he various repositories. and  ppa's to instsll extra themes.. such as webupd8 and omgubuntu
[09:19] <dr_willis> moses:  use the dashs's search feature.
[09:19] <dr_willis> or its a menu under the software-center i recall
[09:19] <moses> i googled
[09:19] <CasW> Ah, it was just disabled in compiz... xD
[09:19] <willem> okay i will try that does that work to in debian stable ?
[09:19] <dr_willis> willem:  no idea. i dont use debian.. i use Ubuntu. ;) thats why im in Ubuntu Support
[09:20] <MonkeyDust> dr_willis  too obvious ;)
[09:20] <moses> i love you
[09:20] <moses> it worked!
[09:20] <willem> okay
[09:21] <dr_willis> MonkeyDust:  Obviousman is obvious.
[09:21] <willem> oh i'm in the wrong channel :) sorry guys !
[09:21] <dr_willis> !manual | moses
[09:21] <dr_willis> that factoid amuses in how little it really says...
[09:21] <cristian_c> An other question
[09:22] <cristian_c> How can I switch audio from mono to stereo?
[09:22] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[09:23] <dr_willis> check the settings thing under the speaker icon.
[09:23] <dr_willis> or pavucontrol
[09:23] <dr_willis> pr was ot pauvcontrol
[09:23] <dr_willis> !info pavucontrol
[09:24] <calamity> Hey all, via the console, is there a command to end a specific user session? (assuming that a user is logged on multiple times)
[09:24] <cristian_c> dr_willis, I've checked pavucontrol, but I don't know how to do
[09:24] <dr_willis> calamity:  you could kill their  pid of the  users  initial login shell.. but thats a bit overkill
[09:24] <dr_willis> cristian_c:  no idea  then. Im not on a ubuntu pc to look.
[09:25] <calamity> Haha. is there a more graceful option? :p
[09:25] <cristian_c> dr_willis, ok
[09:25] <dr_willis> could be its under speaker settings also.
[09:25] <dr_willis> calamity:  reboot.. ;P
[09:25] <cristian_c> dr_willis, I don'tfind them
[09:25] <CasW1> There, I believe everything works again :-)
[09:28] <emirgian> hi
[09:28] <calamity> hi
[09:29] <emirgian> Does anyone know how to create a irc server on my pc?
[09:29] <dr_willis> install an os.. install an irc server on thst os...
[09:29] <emirgian> q
[09:29] <dr_willis> read and follow the directorins for the irc server. ;)
[09:30] <dr_willis> you can have very tiny irc servers.. or huge complex ones..
[09:30] <dr_willis> why do you want to run your own irc server? you can make channels for personal use here if you want to
[09:30] <dr_willis> apt-cache search ircd      should show several irc servers in the repos
[09:38] <azar> what attribute in "file" command shows a file is a system file??
[09:38] <bekks> azar: No one.
[09:39] <bekks> azar: "hidden" is not a file attribute (not an attrubute of the content) but just of the file name.
[09:39] <bekks> azar: ".config" is hidden, "config" isnt.
[09:40] <azar> bekks: so, how to know a file is a system file or not?
[09:40] <jatt> what is a system file?
[09:40] <bekks> azar: "system files" are meaningless in Linux.
[09:40] <bekks> azar: a hidden file is a file with a . as the first charecter of the file name.
[09:42] <thecodeischaos> you can get hidden folders too
[09:42] <azar> bekks: how to find out a file is part of the operating system or other control program?
[09:43] <azar> how to find out a file is part of the operating system or other control program?
[09:44] <klemzy> hello
[09:45] <klemzy> i need help with network
[09:45] <Naranek> azar: you can get pretty far looking at the location of the file
[09:46] <klemzy> why?