[07:25] <Islam> iceroot: so you recommend the 64-bit ubuntu for me
[07:25] <rickyrich> this is my situation with gparted --> http://imageshack.us/f/26/schermatadel20111104082.png/
[07:25] <iceroot> Islam: amd64 is always recommend when the hadware supports it
[07:25] <alvin2_> is there an ideal partition table for installing ubuntu netbook10.10 for it to boot ightning fast?
[07:25] <rickyrich> the last partition sda5 i can use it with ubuntu and with lion but not with windows7
[07:26] <iceroot> rickyrich: ##windows
[07:26] <Islam> iceroot: but with the 3gb is it still strongly recommended ?
[07:26] <rickyrich> iceroot: maybe here someone can help me
[07:26] <yeming> I have setup my ubuntu and installed some packages and did some configurations. Now I want to save the current system state and maybe later restore to this particular state if I screw up. What should I do?
[07:26] <Islam> iceroot: 3GB ram
[07:26] <grayhatpython> swetha try this link for more information on uninstalling postgresql  http://wiki.openbravo.com/wiki/Installation/Ubuntu:_advanced_topics
[07:26] <iceroot> rickyrich: no
[07:26] <iceroot> rickyrich: its related to windows because you need a driver for windows to read that type of filesystem
[07:27] <iceroot> Islam: its always recommend to use amd64
[07:28] <iceroot> Islam: but if you dont plan to upgrade your ram or vga-card (with more ram) there is no reason to reinstall if the system is already in usage
[07:28] <alvin2_> what is the best partition table for ubuntu netbook 10.10?
[07:28] <iceroot> alvin2_: the one the installer is suggesting
[07:28] <Islam> iceroot: thatnx mate, I really appreciate your help, your answers was very helpful,, thanx alot
[07:28] <iceroot> alvin2_: if you mean partition-layout
[07:28] <iceroot> Islam: you are welcome
[07:29] <alvin2_> iceroot: i have windogs 7 and dual booting with une10.10 , i need to do it manually :D
[07:29] <minsik> hi i need help since libreoffice is not starting in ubuntu 11.10
[07:30] <iceroot> minsik: what is the error when starting it from the shell?
[07:30] <VyasKadkol> minisk : do u get any kind of error message when you try to start it?
[07:30] <alvin2_> iceroot: i want to know what is the best partition layout for ubuntu to boot as fast as it can
[07:30] <minsik> iceroot: if i open in shell (using libreoffice --impress or something), it says that The Application cannot be started. [context="shared"] caught unexpected exception'.
[07:31] <iceroot> alvin2_: the layout has nothing to do with boot-speed
[07:31] <iceroot> minsik: nothing more?
[07:31] <alvin2_> iceroot: if so where?
[07:31] <solofight> i recently upgraded my os. Atta ! ! i hate the how the menu and docs have changed. how do i retain the latest os upgrade with just reverting back the UI portion of it to the old state ?
[07:31] <minsik> iceroot: i've bug filed (#885077), but I think it should be something related to upgrading to oneiric, since the problem occurred after upgrading ubuntu from natty to oneiric.
[07:31] <iceroot> alvin2_: hm libreoffice doesnt have a debug-mode
[07:31] <rickyrich> any suggest? :(
[07:32] <iceroot> alvin2_: sorry wrong nick
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> alvin2_: put / on SSD and swap /var /tmp and /home on a platter based partition. Makes things nice
[07:32] <iceroot> minsik: seems like libreoffice doesnt have a debug-mode, maybe the overkill "strace" is helping to find the reason
[07:32] <arun_mummidi> minsik: what is ur h/w config?
[07:32] <minsik> iceroot: got it... :) i've uninstall and re installed it, but same...
[07:33] <solofight> am using ubuntu 11.10 now
[07:33] <solofight> ^^
[07:33] <minsik> iceroot: whatz  'strace'
[07:33] <minsik> arun_mummidi: i3-390m with AMD graphic card
[07:33] <Islam> how to get info about my vga ? I know my ram is 3GB, how to know my vga ?
[07:33] <iceroot> minsik: i would suggest to run "strace libreoffice --impress 2> libreoffice-strace.log" and append it to the bug
[07:33] <iceroot> minsik: debugging tool (not installed by default)
[07:33] <minsik> iceroot: ok thanks :) i'll do that
[07:34] <iceroot> minsik: sudo apt-get install strace
[07:34] <alvin2_> ActionParsnip: ouch! i don't have SSD , just a harddisk and i have windogs7 with it,
[07:34] <roi> backbuntu 0.2 upgrade?
[07:34] <Islam> iceroot: how to get info about my vga ? I know my ram is 3GB, how to know my vga ?
[07:35] <iceroot> Islam: sorry cant remember that command, i guess it was lspci | grep vga
[07:35] <iceroot> Islam: but i always forget it
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> alvin2_: ubuntu boots in about 20seconds here on my hardware circa 2000 to 2005. I'm sure the default boot is plenty fast on anything you have
[07:36] <alvin2_> ActionParsnip: my current partition layout is 512mb=ext2=/boot ; 18gb=ext4=/ ; 1gb=swap <<< all in ext3
[07:36] <Islam> iceroot: no its not that one it doesnt come up with any thing
[07:36] <arun_mummidi> Islam: or u cn just "sudo lshw | grep raph"
[07:36] <minsik> arun_mummidi ... waitin for repl....
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> alvin2_: why not make the OS faster while you actually are using it
[07:37] <arun_mummidi> minsik: Sorry. no much idea
[07:37] <skandranon> I have a question. Upgrading my girlfriends ubuntu pc from 10.04 to xxx to 11.04.. computer rebooted, came up to the ubuntu loading screen for a sec, then a black screen with a list of stuff, and then [ok] for most of them... then it froze there. Reset it after half a hour, and now it is sitting back on the same screen. How do I fix this?
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> alvin2_: how much RAM do you have?
[07:37] <minsik> arun_mummidi: it's okay :) thanks for trying to help anyway :)
[07:37] <Islam> arun_mummidi: but it didnt show how much MB it is
[07:38] <alvin2_> ActionParsnip: but as i choose ubuntu, there's a two line messages saying "FATAL: mod probe can't load modules /var/lib/ blah blah. . . i worry what is that message.. i havve 1gb RAM
[07:38] <ahmad> iceroot: grep -i ;)
[07:38] <iceroot> ahmad: :)
[07:39] <quleap> hello, i cant get my system to boot, i tried the drive in qemu and grub 2 does a screen resize and hangs, here is my boot info http://paste.debian.net/142576
[07:39] <quleap> its ubuntu
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> alvin2_: then you want 2gb swap as you have less than 2gb ram so you should use double your ram amount for swap. If you had 2gb ram or more you would use the same amount
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> alvin2_: have you considered buying more ram. You could double your ram for very cheap
[07:41] <localg0d> I have an issue where my speakers on my laptop are not put in the right settings where only the built in subwoofer is playing audio and i can't find the graphic equalizer which lets me tell the audio which speakers to go to ... any idea ?
[07:41] <quleap> sdc which is from my raid array boot into grub in qemu and so does my usb stick which i put grub on but not from boot
[07:41] <arun_mummidi> Islam: sudo lshw -html >>test.html... open test.html and search for "display".. u can find memory in hexadecimal format.. as far as i know
[07:42] <theadmin> localg0d: Install pavucontrol, set another output as default
[07:42] <ahmad> quleap: root (hd0,1) for sda1 ??
[07:42] <quleap> ?
[07:42] <quleap> I think so..
[07:42] <theadmin> ahmad: Yeah, that's the right way in grub2
[07:42] <alvin2_> ActionParsnip: i thought 1gb swap for a 1gb RAM is quite enough... btw, is that ok that i have a seperate partition for /boot?
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> arun_mummidi: why not just:  sudo lshw -c display
[07:42] <quleap> sda  is ext4
[07:42] <localg0d> theadmin: ty sir .. will try it now ..
[07:42] <theadmin> Drives start with 0, partitions start with 1 -- messy
[07:42] <VP>  how to switch off monitor without turning off the laptop?
[07:43] <DarkG> o.O
[07:43] <anli_> Seems like nvidia non-free only fubars my system: http://www.flickr.com/photos/69403728@N03/6311611522/
[07:43] <ahmad> theadmin: not 0,0 ??
[07:43] <theadmin> ahmad: Nope.
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> alvin2_: its fine but may fill if you don't clear old kernels out using the package system
[07:43] <theadmin> ahmad: That'd be the right way in the old grub, though
[07:43] <anli_> Is there anyone that knows why my screen looks like that after having installed the gfx driver?
[07:43] <furyoshonen> I have been trying to install some post-release updates to my proprietary graphics driver, and I keep getting this error:  "Sorry, installation of this driver failed.Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log" been looking for the log, but I can't find it in this new Unity format. HELP
[07:43] <arun_mummidi> ActionParsnip: thats cool
[07:43] <ajah> how to remote startup network configuration i don`t use network-manager
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> arun_mummidi: single step ;-)
[07:44] <theadmin> furyoshonen: less /var/log/jockey.log
[07:44] <ahmad> theadmin: thnx ;)
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> ajah: restat network service via ssh
[07:45] <alvin2_> ActionParsnip: but why am i getting that message? fatal error: couldn't fine modules linux-xxx failed to load modules /var/lib/modules bla blah ,,,, i can't remember the exact message
[07:46] <furyoshonen> theadmin, thanks... Heyzeus... thats a lot of debugging text
[07:47] <ajah> ActionParsnip, didn`t understand
[07:47] <theadmin> furyoshonen: lol...
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> alvin2_: sounds like you added a module name in /etc/modules  or are loading it with a command. If you can get the error you can use it in websearches
[07:48] <harsh343> I am not able to open ubuntu 11.10
[07:49] <anli_> Should asus graphics cards work well on linux?
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> harsh343: can you define how you mean by "open" thanks
[07:49] <theadmin> anli_: asus makes graphic cards?...
[07:49] <harsh343> ActionParsnip, means i am not able to see login page and all thing
[07:49] <alvin2_> ActionParsnip: where in the log viewer can i find that message about /var/lib?
[07:49] <harsh343> in my system
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> anli_: depends on the chip, not the manufacturer
[07:50] <harsh343> I am not able to start my ubuntu OS
[07:50] <anli_> VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT218 [GeForce 210] (rev a2)
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> alvin2_: dmesg   possibly
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> anli_: nvidia work very well in Linux
[07:51] <anli_> I wonder how I could get this screen garbage when I tried the nonfree driver then
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> harsh343: is it a fresh install?
[07:52] <harsh343> ActionParsnip, yeas I am using on my laptop which is working fine but my office system donot work means i m unable to start from 1 hours
[07:53] <arun_mummidi> harsh343: any errors? what you see on screen? blank? If so tell me if u r able to boot from live cd
[07:53] <harsh343> arun_mummidi, yes blank screen
[07:53] <alvin2_> ActionParsnip: not in there, maybe i might just have to clean and install ubuntu again for 4th time in just a month :(
[07:53] <harsh343> alvin2_, this is my 5th time fresh installation
[07:54] <skandranon> While upgrading Upgrading my girlfriends ubuntu pc from 10.04 to xxx to 11.04.. computer rebooted, came up to the ubuntu loading screen for a sec, then a black screen with a list of stuff, and then [ok] for most of them... then it froze there. Reset it after half a hour, and now it is sitting back on the same screen. Where can I find the info I need to fix this? Not sure what to search for.
[07:54] <alvin2_> mine is just for a month, because i can't revert back to a fresh install state
[07:54] <arun_mummidi> harsh343: while installation, make sure that you check the option "install boot loader(preferably grub)"
[07:55] <auronandace> arun_mummidi: that is enabled by default
[07:55] <harsh343> arun_mummidi, ubuntu do not ask me any Question while installation
[07:55] <harsh343> next time i remember
[07:55] <harsh343> what i can do right now
[07:55] <harsh343> ?
[07:56] <SubShift> hi all
[07:56] <gongnaixiao> help
[07:57] <gongnaixiao> how to upgrade gub to gub2
[07:57] <harsh343> ubuntu screen is blank now what i can do i m not able to start
[07:58] <harsh343> and i have all the important document in my system
[07:59] <theadmin> harsh343: You can back your stuff up using a livecd, don't worry about that nonsense
[07:59] <arun_mummidi> harsh343: boot from live cd, back up data
[07:59] <Hannofcart> Hello, I'm trying to connect to a wireless network from a new Xubuntu install. The wireless device does not show up in ifconfig. lshw shows me that my wireless card is a BCM4311 device. I don't have any means to connect via ethernet either (I am chatting from a different machine) so I tried the 'STA - No Intenet Access' method as described in the documentation: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#STA_-_No_Internet_access
[08:00] <gunztunz> hi
[08:00] <Hannofcart> However, running System->Additional Drivers doesn't show any new drivers available for install. Can someone please tell me how to proceed?
[08:00] <gongnaixiao> tty1-7 OK?
[08:00] <theadmin> Hannofcart: It would only work if you're on ethernet
[08:00] <auronandace> !broadcom | Hannofcart
[08:01] <gunztunz> what does it mean if my login fails and all it says is "lsb_release command not found" and "module unknown" ?
[08:01] <Hannofcart> auronandace: That link is the same I quoted in mu question and it is the without internet method (using packages from the installation media)
[08:02] <auronandace> Hannofcart: oops, sorry
[08:02] <auronandace> !offline | Hannofcart
[08:02] <TheUndertaker> Hannofcart: hilo
[08:03] <Hannofcart> TheUndertaker: greetings. Any idea of what I ought to be doing?
[08:03] <CaelThunderwing> im in need of a lil help, how can i setup my 56k Modem in Xubuntu?
[08:03] <auronandace> !modem | CaelThunderwing
[08:04] <theadmin> eww 56k
[08:04] <CaelThunderwing> more so its not detected by gnome-ppp
[08:04] <CaelThunderwing> thers a Linux Dreamcast to PC Guide
[08:04] <CaelThunderwing> to allow ya to still use PSO online.
[08:05] <Hannofcart> auronandace, I have successfully installed the driver packages. What I have left to be doing is setup the drivers. The instructions ask me to use the Additional Drivers GUI app. Isnt there someway I can do it from the shell, using kldload or something?
[08:06] <CaelThunderwing> sadly its not showin up on lspci
[08:06] <auronandace> Hannofcart: i would have thought it was just a case of loading the driver if you have it installed
[08:06] <Hannofcart> auronandace, yes, can you please tell me how to do that?
[08:07] <auronandace> Hannofcart: sudo modprobe nameofdriver
[08:07] <auronandace> i think
[08:07] <Hannofcart> ah... ok, lemme try
[08:07] <auronandace> Hannofcart: lsmod should give you a list of what is already loaded
[08:08] <skandranon> Please I really need some help. I asked my question, waiting patiently.
[08:08] <theadmin> skandranon: Could you ask again? Some of us might have skipped over it
[08:09] <skandranon> While upgrading Upgrading my girlfriends ubuntu pc from 10.04 to xxx to 11.04.. computer rebooted, came up to the ubuntu loading screen for a sec, then a black screen with a list of stuff, and then [ok] for most of them... then it froze there. Reset it after half a hour, and now it is sitting back on the same screen. Where can I find the info I need to fix this? Not sure what to search for. Not really sure what the screen it is stuck on is..
[08:09] <alvin2> theadmin: can i make a /tmp partition? and for what /tmp is?
[08:09] <Hannofcart> auronandace, nope, that doesnt help. ifconfig still doesnt list my wireless network device. only lshw lists the network device.
[08:09] <CaelThunderwing> the modem's an Conexant Modem
[08:10] <theadmin> alvin2: It's for temporary files, and you shouldn't really need one
[08:10] <phlak_user> alvin2, /tmp is a temporary storage area used by the operating system
[08:10] <TheUndertaker> hi
[08:10] <os_> hi
[08:10] <auronandace> Hannofcart: sorry i can't help further, my wireless is intel which has always worked straight out the box
[08:11] <TheUndertaker> auronandace: hi
[08:11] <phlak_user> Hannofcart, what card do you have? can you pastebin the output of that lshw -C network command?
[08:11] <theadmin> skandranon: yay a girl using Linux... Anyway, I'd suggest a clean install due to the fact that upgrades break everything :/
[08:11] <os_> i have installed linux-kernel-server
[08:11] <auronandace> TheUndertaker: need help?
[08:11] <os_> for xen
[08:11] <alvin2> theadmin: how about /var? can i have that partition?
[08:11] <skandranon> lol, ok.. she's not gonna be happy >.<
[08:11] <skandranon> thank you
[08:12] <os_> how did i create a new virtual machine?
[08:12] <theadmin> alvin2: You can...
[08:12] <theadmin> alvin2: I see no point at all though
[08:12] <theadmin> alvin2: Unless you're running a massive server of some sort
[08:12] <theadmin> skandranon: No problem, sorry I couldn't really help >.<
[08:12] <alvin2> theadmin: ahh i see :D thanks
[08:12] <localg0d> theadmin: hmm it turned out not to have channel tuning .. :(*
[08:13] <theadmin> alvin2: You should read more about FHS to see what is what
[08:13] <Adriannom> hi.  how do i disable escape sequences on the console?  that is, i just want a regular escape key
[08:13] <localg0d> it only had 2 channels and no subwoofer adjustment :(
[08:13] <Hannofcart> phlak_user, i am afraid i cant do that. I am installing on another machine. And the only way i can connect to it using wireless, which is what i need to setup :) The device is a BCM4311
[08:13] <theadmin> Adriannom: umm, I don't think you can
[08:13] <phlak_user> Hannofcart, ah the bcm4311 :) we helped someone with that yesterday
[08:14] <alvin2> got to clean install 10.10 again :D  BTW, how can i install netbook-launcher-efl completely without problems?
[08:14] <Hannofcart> its liseted under the *-network-UNCLAIMED section, phlak_user
[08:14] <localg0d> fhs = fairly hot s**t ??? lol jk
[08:14] <theadmin> localg0d: Filesystem Hierarchy Standard.
[08:14] <localg0d> oh cool thank u theadmin :-)
[08:14] <theadmin> alvin2: Maybe you would install 11.10?
[08:14] <Hannofcart> phlak_user, any chance i can persuade you to do it again? :) or probably pastebin a chatlog of yesterdays conversation?
[08:14] <Adriannom> theadmin, oh... :s
[08:15] <phlak_user> Hannofcart, ok here goes
[08:15] <Adriannom> theadmin, that's...  stupid...
[08:15] <phlak_user> Hannofcart, do an apt-get update
[08:15] <phlak_user> Hannofcart, and then sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[08:15] <theadmin> Adriannom: What exactly is? The keycode the escape key produces is the only thing it can do, anyway
[08:16] <Adriannom> theadmin, sure, but it's the terminal that's choosing what to do with it right?
[08:16] <theadmin> Adriannom: It's the app running in it.
[08:16] <Hannofcart> phlak_user, I am not able to connect that machine using ethernet (I dont have a wire :P)
[08:16] <theadmin> Adriannom: Say, less would interpret that keycode as "exit"
[08:16] <Hannofcart> phlak_user, I can get the packages and install it using usb
[08:16] <Adriannom> theadmin, nah the app wants a basic escape
[08:16] <harsh343> how can i start my ubuntu 11.10 again currently i am not able to start my OS
[08:16] <alvin2> thnks!
[08:16] <shubbar> how can i disaple input correction?
[08:16] <phlak_user> Hannofcart, so get this one
[08:17] <theadmin> Adriannom: What is a basic escape, anyway, in your opinion?
[08:17] <phlak_user> !info  firmware-b43-installer | Hannofcart
[08:17] <theadmin> phlak_user: It's just the installer though ... It would need network, I beleive
[08:17] <Adriannom> theadmin, i only just found out about escape sequences, so i want an escape key where they don't exist ;)
[08:17] <JapyDooge> \o/ theadmin \o/
[08:18] <Adriannom> theadmin, so that i can use an app that binds something to the escape key, something used a lot
[08:18] <tp43> harisund, you gotta hit some hot keys during boot to get to grub shell and then there are a bunch of movies such as try single user mode]\
[08:18] <phlak_user> theadmin, the logic is that you need to install this and remove the incorrect driver (bcmwl)
[08:18] <theadmin> Adriannom: Ah, well... hm...
[08:18] <shubbar> harsh343, a black screen?
[08:18] <theadmin> JapyDooge: yo
[08:18] <harsh343> shubbar, yes
[08:18] <os_> how do i create a new virtual machine in xen?
[08:18] <JapyDooge> yoyo
[08:18] <JapyDooge> good morning =)
[08:18] <arun_mummidi> harsh343:  I gues your boot config file is corrupt. check /boot/grub/grub.cfg (after booting through live cd). It should contain atleast one line similar to  linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38-8-generic root=UUID=F442446282442808 loop=/ubuntu/disks/root.disk ro   quiet splash
[08:18] <shubbar> harsh343, i faced that ... let me look up the bug
[08:19] <theadmin> Adriannom: You can try killing the escape key whatsoever and then binding...
[08:19] <Adriannom> Adriannom, i guess one solution is to run xp in virtualbox and use dos, but that's disgusting ;o
[08:19] <auronandace> os_: is there a #xen channel you could ask in?
[08:19] <Adriannom> theadmin, sounds good, any idea where i can start?
[08:19] <tp43> auronandace, just wondering, what other os you running
[08:19] <Hannofcart> phlak_user, thanks. i'll try it
[08:19] <os_> auronandace, sorry
[08:19] <oslo> hello
[08:19] <theadmin> Adriannom: Well, I think the idea is something like: xmodmap -e 'keysym esc=', not sure what's the proper name for the escape key though
[08:20] <auronandace> arun_mummidi: it sounds to me as if he can boot but the screen goes blank (graphics problem (not grub))
[08:20] <DandyKoffin> hey people
[08:20] <shubbar> harsh343, the is the bug and fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus/+bug/811441
[08:20] <auronandace> tp43: i run xubuntu, arch, haiku, pcbsd and windows
[08:20] <tp43> my scree goes blank, now I use external monitor
[08:20] <Adriannom> thanks theadmin
[08:21] <theadmin> auronandace: haiku? That's a real OS? I thought they invented it in xkcd, lol
[08:21] <root__> Amit
[08:21] <oslo> ihaiku?
[08:21] <harsh343> any possibilities to start from recovery mode
[08:21] <harsh343> I have all the important data in my system
[08:21] <auronandace> theadmin: based on beos from the 90's (also i little off-topic here)
[08:22] <TheUndertaker> morning
[08:22] <arun_mummidi> harsh343: r u able to boot through live cd?
[08:22] <harsh343> live cd ?????
[08:22] <harsh343> I have an installation cd
[08:22] <TheUndertaker> harsh343: welcome
[08:22] <tp43> haiku has its own kernel or is it linux
[08:22] <root__> hi
[08:22] <localg0d> arun_mummidi: u may have a hunch there .. live cd is good idea lol
[08:22] <auronandace> tp43: ask in #haiku
[08:22] <zamba> i need a tool to actually view a text file to see what special characters are used
[08:23] <zamba> what can i do?
[08:23] <zamba> eh
[08:23] <zamba> use
[08:23] <FloodBot1> zamba: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:23] <divine9> Any recommendations for a netbook brand? gonna be putting ubuntu on it
[08:23] <theadmin> zamba: Vim, and :set list
[08:23] <harsh343> from where i got live cd ?
[08:23] <localg0d> harsh343: use the cd u installed ubuntu with to start your computer by probably pressing f12 at reboot and then choose cd/dvd-rom drive to boot with :)
[08:23] <phlak_user> divine9, look at the hcl
[08:23] <phlak_user> !hcl | divine9
[08:23] <zamba> theadmin: ah.. what does ^I mean? that's a tab, right?
[08:23] <CaelThunderwing> looks like im screwed using the Linux DC to PC guide because my laptop's 56k modem's an Conexant
[08:24] <zamba> theadmin: \t
[08:24] <theadmin> zamba: I would suppose so, it has weird codes for things
[08:24] <phlak_user> divine9, this will also help -> http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/
[08:24] <harsh343> After click on f12 what next ?
[08:25] <arun_mummidi> harsh343: the installation cd itself is live cd. boot from cd and select "try ubuntu with out making any changes" in the first screen
[08:25] <divine9> ahh nice, thanks phlak/ubottu!
[08:25] <harsh343> ok
[08:25] <harsh343> when i start my booting with cd
[08:25] <harsh343> localg0d, ya my default booting is cd only
[08:26] <harsh343> after that what next ?
[08:26] <arun_mummidi> harsh343: now ubuntu loads and desktop ..you can access all your files now.  now back up your data... got it?
[08:28] <harsh343> they ask me try ubuntu and install ubuntu ???
[08:28] <harsh343> where i should click
[08:29] <arun_mummidi> harsh343: try ubuntu :)
[08:29] <harsh343> ok
[08:30] <harsh343> arun_mummidi, ye now my scree appears now what next
[08:30] <harsh343> ??
[08:30] <smooph> Hey Guys I need some help ... how can i downgrade a specific package ... there is a problem with the current kmail ... so i want to go back to kdepim4.4 whats the best safest way to do that
[08:31] <arun_mummidi> harsh343: back up your data to a n/w drive or usb drive/ flash drive
[08:31] <theadmin> smooph: Downgrading is not supported, sorry.
[08:31] <theadmin> smooph: Report a bug and wait for a fix
[08:31] <harsh343> is it possible to repair  ???
[08:31] <harsh343> from here
[08:32] <gebi> hi all :)
[08:32]  * DandyKoffin needs advice on what college to attend for Comp Sci (for-profit? local tech colleges?)
[08:32] <arun_mummidi> harsh343:backed up data?
[08:32] <harsh343> hows ?
[08:33] <smooph> theadmin: are you sure thats true ... my way of doing it would have been ... uninstalling kdepim ... setting a preference for kdepim4.4 and installing again ... downgrade done !
[08:34] <harsh343> arun_mummidi, but i m not able to see my download document
[08:34] <theadmin> smooph: Dependencies... You'd have to downgrade every single one of them
[08:34] <harsh343> ??
[08:34] <gebi> where do i choose to install a commandline only system in the alternative installer?
[08:35] <denebeni> selamın aleyküm
[08:35] <arun_mummidi> harsh343: sorry,not aware
[08:36] <harsh343> k
[08:36] <smooph> theadmin: true but a quick apt-cache depends kdepim shows only all the related kontact software
[08:36] <theadmin> smooph: Well, downgrading is still not supported in this channel.
[08:37] <smooph> gebi: cmd only would be server install
[08:37] <gebi> smooph: and where do i change that?
[08:37] <smooph> its a special cd
[08:38] <gebi> i'm in the boot menu of the alternative installer now
[08:38] <gebi> from the wiki: "To install a base system, boot from any Alternate CD and choose "Install a command-line system." It is exactly the same command-line system on Kubuntu/Xubuntu/Ubuntu Alternate CDs."
[08:38] <ejv> DandyKoffin: this is the ubuntu support channel, you question should be asked in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:38] <smooph> or maybe you can choose packages in the alternative ... sry cant help with the installer
[08:38] <ejv> s/you/your/
[08:39] <smooph> gebi: it says press f4 and change options
[08:40] <chaospsychex> ne1 having internet problems ?
[08:40] <gebi>  smooph: THX, didn't get it that F4 changed content when not on 'install ubuntu' option
[08:41] <wideball> hello
[08:41] <wideball> how to check for installed packages using apt ?
[08:41] <dr_willis> !apt
[08:42] <localg0d> downgrade ? why don't u just install an old version of ubuntu using a live cd and then use the new version's home folder when u log in ;)
[08:43] <dr_willis> www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/show-the-list-of-installed-packages-on-ubuntu-or-debian/
[08:43] <iceroot> i have a asc-file which contains a private and a pulic-key, ssh is saying the key is wrong. i am not sure if there have to be the private and public key in one file. is that correct or is the file wrong?
[08:43] <iceroot> ssh for passwordless auth
[08:44] <llutz> iceroot: those have to be 2 files
[08:44] <phlak_user> iceroot, afaik private key and public key should never be in one file. the public key is what you share with the world; the private key is private :)
[08:44] <divine9> if I booted from a live usb, but the interal hard drive was encrypted, what would you see on the live boot? could you still access it with password?
[08:44] <phlak_user> divine9, encrypted with what?
[08:44] <divine9> truecrypt
[08:45] <iceroot> phlak_user: llutz ok, the file is localy in ~, on the remote-server there is only the pub-key, so it should work? (i know its bad to have both in there)
[08:45] <llutz> iceroot: keep your private key on local machine, copy the pub-key to the remote .ssh/authorized_kays (ssh-copy-id)
[08:45] <wideball> http://extras.ubuntu.com/ oneiric release NO GPG KEY
[08:45] <phlak_user> llutz, iceroot thats authorized_keys
[08:46] <llutz> phlak_user: it is, typo sry
[08:46] <iceroot> llutz: that is my setup
[08:46] <wideball> http://extras.ubuntu.com oneiric release signatures cannot be verified because NO public KEY
[08:46] <wideball> how to fix this issue
[08:46] <phlak_user> iceroot, so what gives?
[08:46] <llutz> iceroot: ssh -vvv user@host               to get more verbose output and errors
[08:47] <iceroot> llutz: without ssh-copy but ssh (sftp -o -i) is saying "pem_read private key failed"
[08:47] <iceroot> llutz: cat on the local key file is showing me a priv and a pub-section
[08:47] <phlak_user> iceroot, ah, the keyfile used with -i is a .pem certificate
[08:48] <phlak_user> iceroot, you dont need to use  -i if youve exported your public key over
[08:48] <Guest93643> wat r d command for xchat
[08:48] <Guest93643> can u tell
[08:48] <iceroot> phlak_user: the key is not in the directory ssh is looking so i thought -i (IdentityFile) is just changing the path
[08:49] <phlak_user> Guest93643, xchat
[08:49] <llutz> iceroot: how did you generate those keys?
[08:49] <iceroot> llutz: not generated by me
[08:49] <phlak_user> iceroot, the normal way to  do it is via ssh-keygen
[08:49] <Guest93643> how to use dem
[08:50] <akk_> 什么乱七八糟的呀？
[08:50] <phlak_user> iceroot, which would create a private key and a .pub key (eg id_rsa and id_rsa.pub)
[08:50] <phlak_user> !cn| akk_
[08:50] <Oracle> hello
[08:50] <iceroot> llutz: phlak_user i just have /opt/foo/bar.asc  so i was using sftp -o IdentityFile=/opt/foo.bar
[08:50] <dr_willis> Oracle: the xchat homepage and help has info
[08:50] <tp43> I think Ubuntu should join back to Debian like a good boy
[08:50] <Oracle> is there anyone to help me
[08:51] <iceroot> llutz: phlak_user so my problem is that bar.acs has the wrong format?
[08:51] <iceroot> asc
[08:51] <tp43> Oracle, you are proprietary, you must do it alone
[08:51] <llutz> iceroot: are you sure those are key or just fingerprints?
[08:51] <Oracle> how i don't know
[08:51] <zamba> do cronjobs run in parallell?
[08:52] <dr_willis> zamba:  i would think so
[08:52] <iceroot> llutz: cat on that file shows hash ----end pgp public key block \n hash -----end pgp private key block
[08:52] <RaTTuS|BIG> zamba yes
[08:52] <llutz> iceroot: http://blog.marc-seeger.de/2007/12/18/using-your-gpg-pgp-public-key-to-authorize-your-ssh-connections/
[08:52] <Joelixny> Hello, I am trying to get PAM to unlock the keyring while using the "sufficient" option, but it only seams to do so when I use "[success=1 default=ignore]"
[08:52] <llutz> iceroot: those aren't ssh-keys
[08:53] <phlak_user> iceroot, oh gpg keys
[08:53] <iceroot> llutz: phlak_user ah ok so the keys are not in the correct format i got from the person, that is the problem
[08:53] <llutz> iceroot: correct
[08:53] <iceroot> llutz: the correct format is called?
[08:54] <iceroot> llutz: rsa-key?
[08:54] <llutz> iceroot: yes, preferred. could be dsa or every method ssh supports too
[08:54] <phlak_user> iceroot, file id_rsa shows PEM RSA private key
[08:55] <iceroot> llutz: phlak_user thank you very much, that helped me alot on that issue
[08:55] <phlak_user> iceroot, yw
[08:55] <ssedano> Hi, any good and ligth bash shell ?
[08:56] <llutz> ssedano: bash is bash, what do you want?
[08:56] <ssedano> sorry, I meant terminal
[08:56] <llutz> xterm
[08:56] <ssedano> gnome-terminal is way too heavy
[08:56] <JapyDooge> xterm, eterm
[08:56] <iceroot> ssedano: lxterminal
[08:57] <ssedano> thank you all, I'm going to take a look at them!
[08:57] <JapyDooge> but gnome-terminal is good looking
[08:57] <JapyDooge> xD
[08:58] <phlak_user> ssedano, terminator is also ok
[08:58] <ssedano> well but I want is light and that you can split it out
[08:58] <akk_> Ladys.
[08:59] <Joelixny> Hello, can someone please help me? I am trying to get PAM to unlock the keyring while using the "sufficient" option, but it only seams to do so when I use "[success=1 default=ignore]".
[08:59] <iceroot> phlak_user: terminator is not a terminal its calling gnome-terminal, lxterminal or whatever you set
[08:59] <vani> hi frnds
[08:59] <iceroot> phlak_user: imo
[09:00] <phlak_user> iceroot, is it?
[09:00] <vani> hello
[09:01] <iceroot> phlak_user: my terminator is using gnome-terminal, terminator is just a "window-manager"
[09:01] <phlak_user> !info terminator
[09:01] <phlak_user> iceroot, you're right :)
[09:02] <bindu> hello
[09:02] <ssedano> thank you guys, I will try eterm, looks good lxterminal thou1
[09:03] <phlak_user> iceroot, where would you set someother terminal?
[09:03] <bindu> /etc/init.d/openbravo-erp-postgresq  i want remove the openbravo-erp-postgresq
[09:03] <phlak_user> iceroot, in terminator
[09:03] <bindu> can any body help
[09:03] <phlak_user> bindi, sudo apt-get remove 'package name'
[09:05] <phlak_user> bindu, otoh, that doesnt look like an ubuntu package :)
[09:05] <bindu> filename or package name
[09:05] <phlak_user> bindu, how did you install it?
[09:05] <JapyDooge> np ssedano
[09:06] <bindu> 1 sec
[09:06] <bindu> i instal postgresql
[09:07] <bindu> but i want remove folder inside file
[09:07] <wawrek> hi, I try to install el-get with  aptitude, it doesn't work...
[09:07] <wawrek> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/el-get/2.2-1
[09:08] <melvincv> This happens each time I run apt-get: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/727992/
[09:08] <Joelixny> bindu, did you install from source?
[09:08] <bindu> joeli: yes install source
[09:08] <Joelixny> did you keep the source?
[09:09] <wawrek> it seems to be in tha package repository: http://packages.ubuntu.com/nl/oneiric/el-get
[09:09] <melvincv> I'm on Ubuntu 11.04, did an upgrade and this kernel package install fails. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/727992/
[09:09] <solofight> i recently upgraded my os. Atta ! ! i hate the how the menu and docs have changed. how do i retain the latest os upgrade with just reverting back the UI portion of it to the old state ?
[09:09] <solofight> am using ubuntu 11.10 now
[09:09] <bindu> joelixny: but i want folder inside file remove
[09:09] <deej1976> !nounity
[09:10] <harsh343> how can i able to copy all my material from downloads folder ????
[09:10] <llutz> melvincv: sudo chmod -x /etc/grub.d/README
[09:10] <harsh343> I am not able to start my ubuntu
[09:10] <Joelixny> bindu, if you kept the source, you can try to see if the package has a uninstall option by doing 'make uninstall'
[09:10] <harsh343> and when i try live cd i am not able to show my download material
[09:11] <harsh343> Help me please please please please
[09:11] <phlak_user> harsh343, a) boot from livecd b) mount the partition on hd that contains the downloads folder c) insert external hd or usb d) copy from downloads folder to external media
[09:11] <phlak_user> !please | harsh343
[09:11] <planet_> ada cewek
[09:12] <harsh343> phlak_user, i m not understand your b point
[09:13] <Joelixny> harsh343, don't spam 'please'
[09:13] <dr_willis> !mount
[09:13] <RaTTuS|BIG> harsh343 - what downlaod directory are you talking about
[09:13] <harsh343> Home/downloads
[09:14] <tresorine> erveur irc.epiknet.org
[09:15] <dr_willis> tell the channel what your pc is doing exactly it may be fixable
[09:16] <tresorine> bon
[09:16] <RaTTuS|BIG> harsh343 if you have a system you want to get at your Downloads folder - after booting from teh livecd you will ahve to mount the drive where that downloads folder is so you can see it - if this is notthe problem then please re-frase it
[09:16] <tresorine> someone is using ppx ubuntu 10.04 ?
[09:16] <tresorine> ppc
[09:17] <dr_willis> !ppc
[09:17] <mchoi> modou choi
[09:17] <Joelixny> bindu, were you able to uninstall if? if the package doesn't contain a uninstall option then you could use checkinstall on the source to install it again, but this time it makes it a easy to remove package which can me removed with 'dpkg -r packagename'
[09:17] <mchoi> from banjul
[09:18] <mchoi> my full name is muhammed choi
[09:19] <catmando> hey all
[09:19] <catmando> having a bit of a weird issue
[09:20] <catmando> my ./notify-send settings don't seem to be sticking
[09:20] <catmando> even after restarting notify-send
[09:20] <catmando> i can't seem to change background colours/timeouts
[09:20] <catmando> any ideas?
[09:21] <phlak_user> catmando, by default they arent supposed to stick
[09:21] <catmando> oh
[09:21] <catmando> so, how do i change them
[09:21] <phlak_user> catmando, by stick, do you mean you want the notifications to be on screen permanently?
[09:21] <catmando> sorry, i mean that the settings are not applying
[09:21] <harsh343> phlak_user, how can i mount all my datas in pendrive
[09:22] <harsh343> ??
[09:22] <catmando> as in, changing the bg color either through the gui or the text file is having no effect
[09:22] <catmando> for example
[09:22] <dr_willis> they work once?
[09:22] <catmando> dr_willis: no
[09:22] <catmando> dr_willis: they don't work at all
[09:22] <phlak_user> harsh343, you dont mount data in pendrive; you mount data on the PC and *copy* to pendrive
[09:22] <phlak_user> catmando, what command are you using?
[09:22] <dr_willis> !mount > harsh343
[09:23] <christofer> is it possible to make banshee hide artists who only appears on compilations from artist-list?
[09:23] <catmando> in addition, after the latest update, gwibber notifications no longer appear in the bottom notification area, just in notify-osd bubbles
[09:24] <catmando> phlak_user: i tried using notifyconf
[09:24] <catmando> and editing the file by hand
[09:24] <harsh343> phlak_user, can u plz give me those commands
[09:24] <harsh343> how can i mount data on the pc
[09:25] <phlak_user> harsh343, did you see the pm that dr_willis sent your way? just follow the instructions in that
[09:26] <phlak_user> catmando, no, i meant does notify-send "hello World" work?
[09:26] <harsh343> phlak_user, yes i see the link but not able to understand them actually i m newbie in ubuntu
[09:27] <phlak_user> harsh343, actually it has nothing to do with Ubuntu, the mount action is the same across all linuxes
[09:27] <catmando> phlak_user: sure, that works, but the way the notification _looks_ is not conforming to my settings
[09:27] <phlak_user> catmando, oh ok
[09:27] <user_> salve a tutti
[09:27] <harsh343> yes i know that but i m newbie in linux from the past 7-8 Years i m using windows
[09:27] <harsh343> only
[09:27] <deej1976> harsh343: how many hard drives are in your computer?
[09:28] <harsh343> deej1976, 4
[09:28] <harsh343> in c windows i installed
[09:28] <Joelixny> harsh343, do 'sudo fdisk -l' and PM the output
[09:28] <Joelixny> to me*
[09:29] <brainsoft> hi, im trying to balance 6 servers. 1 would be the main and the other five then. so i should do pen -r -a -f -d <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS> ip2 ip3 ip4 ip5 and set the dns of the domain to the external ip of <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[09:29] <melvincv> Why aren't the kernel packages getting installed? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/727992/
[09:29] <harsh343> this is the output
[09:29] <harsh343> http://pastebin.com/dcfGT35Y
[09:29] <ksinkar> anyone doing haskell development on ubuntu?
[09:29] <llutz> melvincv: sudo chmod -x /etc/grub.d/README             did you try this?
[09:29] <melvincv> oh, let me see...
[09:30] <phlak_user> catmando, this looks like something you want to do -> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/07/patched-notifyosd-updates-option-to.html
[09:30] <gry> Hi. I installed both ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop but now need only the first one.  I'm reading the page for proper instructions now.
[09:32] <catmando> phlak_user: any ideas on why gwibber notifications are not showing up in the bottom notification area any longer?
[09:32] <harsh343> deej1976, sorry this is not the correct info of my office system wait
[09:32] <deej1976> harsh343: sudo nautilus /mnt/home/harsh/Downloads
[09:32] <Joelixny> harsh343, what size is your windows partition which has the data you want to move?
[09:33] <klawd> hi!
[09:33] <klawd> how can i make terminal start fullscreen?
[09:33] <klawd> i'm using xubuntu
[09:33] <gry> klawd: Try asking #xubuntu if you like.
[09:33] <melvincv> llutz: the entire /etc is now 777 :P
[09:33] <phlak_user> catmando, in unity?
[09:33] <klawd> oh, ok
[09:33] <klawd> thanks
[09:33] <ikonia> klawd: you have to change the default terminal properties to do that
[09:33] <waheed> hi everybody
[09:33] <ikonia> ....
[09:33] <ikonia> ok
[09:34] <iceroot> klawd: your-terminal --help  to see the fullscreen option
[09:34] <gry> <-- klawd<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has left #ubuntu <-- iceroot
[09:34] <iceroot> dont know what xubuntu is using by default
[09:34] <dr_willis> xfterm is my guesd
[09:34] <christofer> exit
[09:34] <iceroot> gry: i am ignoring the whole stuff :) and when tab-completing his nick he was still there
[09:34] <melvincv> llutz: Can I do something about it?
[09:34] <llutz> melvincv: you could try to repair from live-cd
[09:35] <gry> iceroot, ok. :-)
[09:35] <gry> Thank you for the link, it's good to see that it is updated for 11.10.
[09:35] <melvincv> llutz: there is a repair option???
[09:35] <llutz> melvincv: setting all to root:root 755/644, /etc/sudoers to 440
[09:35] <llutz> melvincv: nope
[09:35] <melvincv> thanks!
[09:36] <iceroot> gry: but thanks for the info
[09:36] <waheed> I have a problem with apache on ubuntu 10.10, it doesn't work, opening the "localhost" on the browser doesn't work, tried to restart apache using the command "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart " but gives me the message: apache2: Syntax error on line 227 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Could not open configuration file /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf: No such file or directory Action 'configtest' failed. The Apache error log may hav
[09:36] <waheed> I have a problem with apache on ubuntu 10.10, it doesn't work, opening the "localhost" on the browser doesn't work, tried to restart apache using the command "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart " but gives me the message: apache2: Syntax error on line 227 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Could not open configuration file /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf: No such file or directory Action 'configtest' failed. The Apache error log may hav
[09:36] <melvincv> will that solve the kernel issue?
[09:36] <FloodBot1> waheed: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:36] <llutz> melvincv: the kernel doesn't install because the postrm failes (because you stupidly chmodded all 777)
[09:36] <phlak_user> waheed, logic demands that you look into line 227 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf and set it right
[09:37] <catmando> phlak_user: in gnome-shell
[09:37] <wawrek> anyone tried to install el-get, using aptitude on ubuntu? it is a piece of software which makes it possible to install necessary plugins and dependencies from within emacs.
[09:37] <llutz> melvincv: repair permissions and it should install (if you don't know how, reinstallation could be easier)
[09:37] <Halabund> Can someone please take a look at this bug report and try to confirm it? --> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vim/+bug/884127   Or at least tell me how to draw some attention!
[09:37] <phlak_user> catmando, oh ok; am not using gnome-shell myself so cant say
[09:37] <catmando> phlak_user: thanks for your help!
[09:37] <AdvoWork> ive got a 1tb usb drive, its plugged into my ubuntu client machine,i need to format this, and have the option of fat, ext2, ext4. Any suggestions? for max speed also?
[09:37] <phlak_user> catmando, yw
[09:38] <ikonia> Halabund: join #ubuntu-cn you'll find chinese users there, ask them to test it, ask them to contribute to the bug
[09:38] <phlak_user> AdvoWork, is it going to be used on other non-linux machines?
[09:38] <dr_willis> AdvoWork:  de0ends on what you are going to do with it
[09:39] <ikonia> using a usb drive and looking for "max speed" are in direct contradiction
[09:39] <Halabund> ikonia, and that's how the people who actually CAN fix it will never find out, because they don't speak Chinese!  I don't speak good enough Chinese to speak there either, and it would take literally 5 minutes to try this for anyone here ...
[09:39] <harsh343> how can i check the username through command
[09:39] <harsh343> ??
[09:39] <dr_willis> usb2 will be the bittleneck. not the fs
[09:39] <melvincv> llutz: I'd like to try repair. And I don't remember why I did that :P Anyway, where do I find the repair option in the live cd?
[09:39] <ikonia> Halabund: then why are you logging the bug if you don't actually want to use this config
[09:39] <Halabund> ikonia, I *AM* using this config!!!
[09:40] <llutz> melvincv: there is no repair-option, its done by hand. mount your /-fs and try to fix
[09:40] <ikonia> Halabund: ok - so you must be able to speak basic chinese to use the chinese language input
[09:40] <ikonia> Halabund: there are chinese orgin/speaking people on the development team too
[09:41] <dc5ala> harsh343, you mean something like "whoami" or "id"?
[09:41] <llutz> melvincv: chmod/chown are the commands you'll need
[09:41] <Halabund> ikonia, why are you doing this, seriously?  OK, you don't want to help, you don't have to say it explicitly.  Have you never heard of people learning a language?  Or people sharing a computer?
[09:41] <ikonia> Halabund: totally, that's why I'm advising you
[09:42] <ikonia> Halabund: join #ubuntu-cn and find others using the config and get them to confirm and comment on the bug
[09:42] <waheed> phlak_user, here is line 227 : Include conf.d/ ,, should i fix it to what??
[09:42] <ikonia> Halabund: contact the chinese loco group on their mail list and ask them to confirm comment on the bug - get a good few people to confirm and detail their system info
[09:42] <parapan> hi fellows > can ;someone please point out the proper command for moving all files in a directory to the base(upper) directory ?
[09:43] <ikonia> parapan: mv * ..
[09:43] <parapan> ikonia: thanks but is not working ...
[09:43] <ikonia> parapan: define not working
[09:43] <waheed> phlak_user, here is line 227 : Include conf.d/ ,, should i fix it to what??
[09:43] <harsh343> deej1976, this is the output http://pastebin.com/U5sDTqvH
[09:44] <parapan> aaaa oops ....I did that command before ...but it gave me some error .....now I see the move was done .......
[09:44] <harsh343> Joelixny, this is the output of ur command http://pastebin.com/U5sDTqvH
[09:44] <AndyUbuntu> i have an interesting question for everyone
[09:44] <waheed> hey, can anybody help me?
[09:45] <Joelixny> harsh343, what size is the partition your data is on?
[09:45] <AndyUbuntu> is there a way to play divx moives in google chrome or other browsers?
[09:45] <melvincv> Oh my, repair by hand? I took a look at the permissions. They seem to be tough to repair... http://paste.ubuntu.com/728007/
[09:45] <ikonia> AndyUbuntu: if the webpage you are viewing has an embedded player, sure
[09:45] <parapan> ikonia: mv: cannot move `.' to `../.': Device or resource busy - I have received this and this -- mv: cannot stat `*': No such file or directory , but the move was actually performed ....hmmmm
[09:46] <ikonia> parapan: you will never move "." as that is the pwd, so that's just a warining, you can't stat * as the files are already gone, don't worry about that
[09:46] <AndyUbuntu> ikonia, everytime i access a site that has divx it says there is a missing plugin
[09:46] <harsh343> I do not no much actually is my office system and i m not installed anything
[09:46] <parapan> ikonia: k man thanks for the explanation
[09:47] <harsh343> I am using ubuntu on my lapy also but this works fine
[09:47] <waheed> anybody help me to fix apache !!
[09:47] <Joelixny> Hello, can someone please help me? I am trying to get PAM to unlock the keyring while using the "sufficient" option, but it only seams to do so when I use "[success=1 default=ignore]".
[09:47] <deej1976> harsh343: Is the Download directory you want on the installed Linux System?
[09:47] <jwtiyar> Ctrl+H does not show the hidden files/folders
[09:47] <AndyUbuntu> ikonia, only when I go to play the video. Its interesting as I think it works in firefox :S
[09:48] <waheed> ppl, anybody help plz to fix apache!!
[09:48] <HulkHogan> nop
[09:48] <cem> hi I cannot login to my account in Ubuntu 11.10 , Even I enter the correct pass It does not work. Also when I try to close Gnome and login with Grub i Am getting input type not supported from the monitor. I need one file from that computer immediately what can I do ?
[09:49] <Joelixny> waheed, check your config file
[09:49] <HulkHogan> cem: use a live cd
[09:49] <dr_willis> waheed:  be more specific with the ussue
[09:49] <harsh343> yes
[09:50] <Joelixny> harsh343, where do you want to copy it?
[09:50] <harsh343> deej1976, i want my downloads folder data right now i am not albe to see
[09:50] <dr_willis> cem live cd is one way
[09:50] <harsh343> in my pendrive
[09:50] <waheed> Joelixny , I said it detailede previously, wait
[09:50] <cem> HulkHogan, Because I need it immediately and I don't have the live cd with me downloading is the last choice
[09:50] <AdvoWork> PHLAK, dr_willis possibly using it on this ubuntu machine, but maybe on a win machine to copy back along? i dont mind if i can only use it on ubunut, its only for backups
[09:50] <deej1976> harsh343: Your on the Ubuntu LiveCD now?
[09:51] <waheed> Joelixny , I have a problem with apache on ubuntu 10.10, it doesn't work, opening the "localhost" on the browser doesn't work, tried to restart apache using the command "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart " but gives me the message: apache2: Syntax error on line 227 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Could not open configuration file /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf: No such file or directory Action 'configtest' failed. The Apache error
[09:51] <harsh343> yes i m under ubuntu right now, after selecting option try ubuntu
[09:51] <Joelixny> waheed, I know, I saw it, check your config file
[09:51] <deej1976> harsh343: Start a terminal and type sudo mount /dev/sda8 /mnt
[09:52] <Joelixny> harsh343, you want a file that was on your download folder in ubuntu but now it's gone?
[09:52] <waheed> Joelixny, I don't know exactly what to do? how to fix it, here is the line 227 : Include conf.d/, then what??
[09:52] <HulkHogan> cem: try drop to tty screen, see if u can login from there
[09:52] <harsh343> waheed, try to remove apache2 and install again
[09:52] <cem> HulkHogan, I did once and copied the file to a directory but when I logged in with the guest again it dissapeared
[09:53] <waheed> harsh343 , i did so, and still the same problem
[09:53] <cem> directory tmp/guest-some_id
[09:53] <HulkHogan> cem: copy to pendrive then
[09:53] <cem> did that too and could not find that in there too
[09:53] <cem> strangely it disappears
[09:53] <waheed> Joelixny , phpmyadmin is installed
[09:53] <dr_willis> cem or to ubuntu one.
[09:54] <HulkHogan> cem: what file?
[09:54] <dr_willis> or dropbox
[09:54] <cem> a psd file
[09:54] <dc5ala> waheed, install phpmyadmin, or remove the symlink  /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf
[09:54] <cem> does dropbox sync without the Gnome ?
[09:54] <jwtiyar> when using my mouse the theme will change and the mouse will stop and work repeatly
[09:55] <HulkHogan> cem: not sure what u mean by disappear it should be there
[09:55] <deej1976> waheed: look under /etc/apache2/sites-enabled
[09:55] <HulkHogan> cem: how else would u copy it
[09:55] <waheed> dc5ala , how to remove the symlink??
[09:55] <lantizia> How can I terminate gnome-screensaver manually?  everytime i open my laptop up i get my normal desktop but the screen is frozen and i can see in the processes gnome-screensaver is running.... in the past ive just killed it but it hasn't unfroze anything
[09:56] <cem> I know it is strance but I cp /filename /mounted/partition for the usb disk used ls and viewed the file
[09:56] <dc5ala> waheed, try this in a terminal to check: ls -l /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf
[09:56] <HulkHogan> lantizia: killall gnome-screensaver ?
[09:56] <lantizia> HulkHogan: didn't i just say ive done that before
[09:57] <cem> I will downgrade to 10.04
[09:57] <HulkHogan> lantizia: u said kill, didnt say anything about killall
[09:57] <melvincv_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/728007/ How may I set the permissions right?
[09:58] <HulkHogan> cem: can u open the file?, maybe is not the right one
[09:58] <deej1976> harsh343: how is the mounting going?
[09:58] <harsh343> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda8 is already mounted on /mnt
[09:59] <harsh343> this is the output deej1976
[09:59] <deej1976> harsh343: ls /mnt/home
[10:00] <harsh343> volition
[10:01] <HulkHogan> harsh343: just use pySDM to mount drives
[10:01] <deej1976> harsh343: nautilus /mnt/home/volition/Downloads
[10:01] <harsh343> ok
[10:02] <llutz> melvincv_: 1st: find /mnt/etc -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \;                       if you mounted your /-fs to /mnt from live-cd
[10:02] <harsh343> got it thanks
[10:02] <harsh343> deej1976, thanks
[10:02] <johnyB1> does anybody know how to create nautilus icon that runs nautilus as root?
[10:02] <deej1976> harsh343: No problems
[10:03] <kk_1010> hello, I have a del machine with i386 processor.  When i try to run ubuntu 10.10 live cd, I get the busy box error can't fine a life file system on the media
[10:03] <dr_willis> johnyB1:  make a launcher that runs    gksudo nautilus
[10:03] <iceroot> kk_1010: linux cant be run on i386 cpus, minimum is i486
[10:04] <go^> hello, does anyone know a GUI for cpufreq-set ?
[10:04] <iceroot> kk_1010: but i guess you mean you have a 32bit cpu higher then 386
[10:04] <kk_1010> iceroot: sorry I ment i3 processor
[10:04] <johnyB1> dr_willis: thanks!
[10:04] <iceroot> kk_1010: ok
[10:05] <EgyParadox> kk_1010, did u check the md5 hash?
[10:06] <DarsVaeda> can I have a buttom bar with all open applications like in gnome befor in unity or something equivalent?
[10:06] <harsh343> deej1976, now i am able to take all my datas but now what next means i can again install os or something else
[10:06] <EgyParadox> Dark_Apostrophe, can a docky work?
[10:06] <HulkHogan> kk_1010: i think i had that a while back, what i did what remove the cd when i saw the ubuntu logo, then put it back in, then it booted
[10:06] <DarsVaeda> I think it was called application chooser or something like that
[10:06] <bkuyateh1> bannax
[10:06] <bkuyateh1> hi  how are  u doing
[10:07] <EgyParadox> DarsVaeda,
[10:07] <andrzej> HELLO can anybody help mi. i have problem with connect modem sony ericsson gc79 to my notebook
[10:07] <DarsVaeda> EgyParadox: yes?
[10:07] <dr_willis> DarsVaeda:  easy way would be to use a dock like awn or others
[10:07] <dr_willis> !dock
[10:07] <EgyParadox> i mean dock*
[10:07] <DarsVaeda> okay thanks I'll look into that
[10:08] <deej1976> harsh343: What next is up to you, you could reinstall ubuntu over the top of the old install, it might even offer a repair. The choice is your.
[10:09] <kk_1010> iceroot: intel i3
[10:09] <kk_1010> iceroot: basically I am getting the  busybox shell and it says unable to find live file system.
[10:09] <kk_1010> is there any kernel parameter which I need to pass and how?
[10:09] <harsh343> how can i repair because now i donot want to reinstall (total 5time i reinstall ubuntu due to some problem)
[10:10] <deej1976> harsh343: What happens when you boot your machine, Do you see the grub prompt to select ubuntu
[10:10] <DarsVaeda> dr_willis: but a dock is more like a replacement of unity? or do I get this wrong
[10:11] <harsh343> when i start my system thenafter 2 options occurs mainly try ubuntu and install ubuntu right now i copy all my important material through try ubuntu
[10:11] <kk_10101> iceroot: r u there?  I had got disconnected.
[10:12] <deej1976> harsh343: what happens if your boot from the HD after removing the CD?
[10:12] <dr_willis> DarsVaeda:  its just a fancy app. awn and unity can be fun
[10:13] <q_a_z_steve> Is there still an alternate download for AMD64+mac ? I want to install 64bit.
[10:13] <kk_10101> can some one give me a solution for the problem i get with ubuntu 1010 live cd?  when I try booting on an i3 intel processor based del machines, i get the busybox shell and error that says unable to find a media with live file system.
[10:14] <dr_willis> bbl
[10:14] <harsh343> after removing the cd blank screen appears
[10:14] <harsh343> as i told u earlier
[10:14] <pratham> hi does anybody know how to customize xterm ??
[10:14] <q_a_z_steve> kk_10101: have you checked the contents of the cd?
[10:14] <pratham> or how can i install other terminals in slitaz??
[10:15] <harsh343> means i am not able to see the start ubuntu but i have some option in boot, like ubuntu 11.10 and recovery and my other os window 7
[10:15] <kk_10101> q_a_z_steve: yes they are cds from canonical and they work on all other machines.
[10:15] <harsh343> 3 options occur when i start my system
[10:15] <cypr1nus> hi, could You please advise which library I can use for simple 2d physics simulation?
[10:15] <deej1976> harsh343: That better, What do get if you select recovery?
[10:16] <q_a_z_steve> kk_10101: But I mean have you run the utility to check the contents
[10:16] <harsh343> if i select recovery then commands screen appears and they execute there own command after 2-3 mnts nothing new happens
[10:16] <harsh343> means i think hang
[10:17] <kk_10101> q_a_z_steve: and I guess this is some thing known but I am not getting exact solution
[10:17] <deej1976> Does it give you a prompt % at all, what's the last message on the screen?
[10:18] <q_a_z_steve> kk_10101: when you first start the boot and see the weird blurry icons on the bottom of the screen hit F8
[10:18] <kk_10101> q_a_z_steve: then?
[10:19] <q_a_z_steve> kk_10101: Then you'll see the option to which I am referring. Run it.
[10:19] <atif> hello every one
[10:19] <localg0d> is there a way to adjust the treble of the internal speakers on my laptop  ????????
[10:19] <kk_10101> q_a_z_steve: sorry I think i missed some of your messages then, which option you recommend to run?
[10:20] <q_a_z_steve> kk_10101: It's called something like Check contents of the CD
[10:20] <q_a_z_steve> localg0d: what have you tried?
[10:21] <localg0d> puvac or wutever
[10:21] <kk_10101> q_a_z_steve: Do you think that will work?
[10:22] <stetho> I've set up an Ubuntu box as a router between two networks. <IP_ADDRESS>/24 is on eth0 and <IP_ADDRESS>/24 is on eth1. I've enabled ip forwarding and I can ping between the networks. The 199 network is effectively the WAN and there's a route to <IP_ADDRESS> which is the gateway to the internet. My question - when I enable NAT with iptables -t nat --append POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE everything dies.
[10:22] <kk_10101> q_a_z_steve: coz, the cds are working absolutely perfect elsewhere
[10:22] <q_a_z_steve> kk_10101: some cd drives are pissy
[10:22] <atif> just installed 12.04 pre-pre-alpha
[10:22] <stetho> Either iptables -t nat --append POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE is wrong or I'm missing a step which Google isn't helping me find.
[10:23] <atif> but my system information show that am still using the old ver 11.10
[10:23] <q_a_z_steve> kk_10101: individual disks in individual drives have issues.
[10:25] <localg0d> puvac or wutever
[10:25] <odb|fidel> atif: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[10:25] <atif> sorry am not technical
[10:25] <odb|fidel> and why are you testing a pre alpha then?
[10:26] <atif> was just curious about it so could not wait
[10:26] <sveinse> Where can I download the 11.04 install iso?
[10:26] <stetho> They're the best testers.
[10:27] <arunm> hi i am installed ubuntu 11.04 in my pc ,but its slowdown my pc,i have mechine with 1gb ram intel p4 processor,what is the reason behind this?
[10:27] <jeus> i have noise in second monitor
[10:27] <odb|fidel> arunm: check what eats your resources
[10:27] <odb|fidel> it might help to use a window-manager with a smaller mem-footprint
[10:29] <arunm> odb|fidel:how to check that can you please?
[10:29] <odb|fidel> ?
[10:29] <jeus> i have samsung SF510 and have problem with second monitor and show image with tiny wave
[10:29] <jeus> i have samsung SF510 and have problem with second monitor and show image with tiny wave
[10:29] <jeus> i have samsung SF510 and have problem with second monitor and show image with tiny wave
[10:29] <FloodBot1> jeus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:29] <odb|fidel> dont repeat please
[10:29] <jeus> odb|fidel, sorry
[10:30] <garretraziel> hi, does anybody knows how to blacklist module from automatic kernel loading? I putted "blacklist i915" into /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf, but lsmod still shows i915 module loaded after reboot.
[10:30] <jeus> i have a big problem
[10:30] <deavid> hi, i'm plugging a USB ticket printer on a Ubuntu OS Oneiric, and cdc_adm module is registering the printer as if it was an ACM modem... ¿how i can fix this?
[10:30] <jeus> i have samsung SF510 and have problem with second monitor and show image with tiny wave
[10:31] <odb|fidel> jeus: i guess that article might help you asking "improved" questions: http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[10:32] <jeus> odb|fidel, TNX
[10:32] <RandomRoger> Can I haz answerz now pease
[10:33] <jeus> odb|fidel, i read thi 3 years ago
[10:34] <deej1976> RandomRoger: To What
[10:34] <jeus> but my problem is very shit . odb|fidel
[10:34] <odb|fidel> jeus: please talk to the channel and not single persons & good luck - gonna put you on ignore now ;)
[10:34] <RandomRoger> Thanks deej1976, I was making a joke and typed in the wrong channel. My bad.
[10:37] <obert-> hello,are there known issues on using ubuntu ona vm?
[10:38] <ikonia> obert-: depends what type of vm
[10:39] <ikonia> obert-: the short answer is "no" any bugs are normally the problem of the VM - not the guest
[10:39] <oslo> salut
[10:39] <obert-> ikonia: mah..thanks
[10:40] <bobot> hi everyone
[10:41] <bobot> i just install ubuntu 11.04
[10:41] <obert-> ikonia: then i must think that i got issues and i should try to re-install the guest os at least. the vm is vmware
[10:41] <Halabund> Does this new kind of menu (on the top row, with unity) have a name I can refer to it by?
[10:41] <bobot> when connect my network cable , seems don't detect it
[10:41] <bobot> so i can't surf the internet  ,i am using acer
[10:42] <deej1976> Halabund: global-menu
[10:42] <Halabund> deej1976, thanks
[10:42] <bobot> please don't u have a solution ?
[10:43] <odb|fidel> bobot: check the output of: ifconfig
[10:43] <bobot> ok
[10:44] <odb|fidel> bobot: check if your lan internaface (most likely en0 or similar) has an ip-adress - if so: check if its one which makes sense ;)
[10:44] <odb|fidel> *eth0*
[10:44] <bobot> ifconfig  or ipconfig ?
[10:44] <bobot> ok
[10:44] <odb|fidel> ipconfig is a windows-cmd
[10:44] <brainsoft> anyone here have used pen with apache for load balancing?
[10:45] <odb|fidel> so: ifconfig ;)
[10:45] <bobot> ok
[10:48] <bobot> the line eth0 don't have an adress ip
[10:48] <bobot> just wlan and lo have it
[10:49] <bobot> odb |fidel are there ?
[10:49] <odb|fidel> well - i would check /etc/network/interfaces now
[10:49] <bobot> ok
[10:50] <deej1976> Halabund: And if you don't like google for removing/disabling it.
[10:51] <Halabund> deej1976, it's fine for as long as it works.  (It doesn't show at all in gVim)
[10:53] <christian__> Hey guys
[10:54] <Halabund> Any ideas about this, anyone?  --> http://askubuntu.com/questions/75395/poor-sound-quality-on-ubuntu-compared-to-winxp-why
[10:55] <bobot> no way to get answer in the terminal
[10:55] <odb|fidel> bobot: ?
[10:55] <bobot> this is why i tape : /ect/network/interfaces
[10:55] <odb|fidel> you should check the content of that file and fix it if needed
[10:56] <odb|fidel> so ... its not a cmd - its a path to a file
[10:56] <aakif> hi
[10:56] <aakif> I'm new here...
[10:56] <bobot> ok , check it now
[10:56] <aakif> first time Xubuntu on my PC... :)
[10:57] <aakif> hello @all
[10:58] <aakif> m alone here?
[10:58] <bobot> i got the file
[10:58] <bobot> auto lo
[10:58] <bobot> iface lo inet loopback
[10:58] <odb|fidel> bobot: dont paste the file
[10:58] <odb|fidel> check if there is a configuration for your eth0
[10:59] <aakif> OK bye friends.....still loads of configuration/updates :\
[10:59] <odb|fidel> if not - ask yourself if you need a static or a dnyamic config
[10:59] <odb|fidel> google for examples - add the matching one and see what happens
[10:59] <bobot> ok
[11:00] <christian__> i need some help :(
[11:00] <fmauro> Halabund: The sound chip producer often delivers drivers for XP with some extended functionality (Dolby and equalizing) which isn't used under ubuntu. You could check if you can find a better driver for your card.
[11:00] <odb|fidel> christian__: asking for help is a bad idea
[11:01] <odb|fidel> start with a problem description - as detailed & complete as possible
[11:01] <odb|fidel> and hope someone is willing to spend some time ;)
[11:01] <Halabund> fmauro, thanks.  Do you have any suggestions on *where* to look for the driver?  It seems to be a very common model
[11:02] <bobot> i see , i need a dynamic ip , i got your method , and have and idea to configure it
[11:02] <fmauro> Halabund: I don't but rather I'd try to use the current driver and try to equalize it through the software you're using, as replacing the driver can get nasty pretty fast
[11:02] <bobot> thand
[11:02] <bobot> thanks
[11:02] <christian__> ok let me explain my problem ^^ : i am running a program that wants to create a bridge for tap0 and eth0, but it always says :
[11:02] <christian__> Let's wait until qemu is ready...         (qemu is the base of the program, it uses modified qemu source)
[11:02] <christian__> can't add tap0 to bridge eth0: Operation not supported
[11:02] <christian__> /etc/qemu-ifup: could not launch network script
[11:02] <christian__> Could not initialize device 'tap'
[11:02] <FloodBot1> christian__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:03] <christian__> sry i didnt want to flood, i just wanted to format my message
[11:03] <Halabund> Does anyone know how to prevent gnome-terminal from capturing the F1 key?  I'd like to pass the keystroke to the console program  I'm running!  (Edit -> Keyboard shortcuts seems to be only a list, but it's not editable)
[11:03] <christian__> why cant it add tap0 to bridge eth0 :/
[11:03] <christian__> i want that tap0 uses the internet connection of eth0
[11:04] <jrib> Halabund: the list *is* editable
[11:05] <Halabund> jrib, can you please tell me HOW to edit it ... ?
[11:05] <Halabund> okay, got it
[11:05] <Halabund> have to click in the SECOND column
[11:05] <jrib> Halabund: click on the right column after selecting the appropriate row. Then you can hit a new key or just hit backspace
[11:05] <Halabund> not the first
[11:06] <conntrack> Guess I've been a little hasty connecting my firewall to the net
[11:07] <tomodachi>  /win 13
[11:07] <harsh343> deej1976, there ?
[11:07] <velcroshooz> loss 13
[11:08] <deej1976> harsh343: yep
[11:08] <seth_> anyone have a problem where it won't let you move one application to a new workspace?
[11:08] <harsh343> Begin : Running /scripts/init-bottom ... done
[11:08] <harsh343> this is the message in my recovery mode
[11:08] <harsh343> and cursor blink
[11:09] <harsh343> and i am not able to do anything
[11:11] <apoage> hi im just trying to run luxmark (64 bit) on my Ubuntu (studio) 11.04 (64 bit) and application saying: /luxmark-linux64: error while loading shared libraries: libboost_thread.so.1.40.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file... where can i get that library ? i have libboost_thread.so.1.42.0: already installed on my system
[11:13] <harsh343> deej1976, thr
[11:13] <harsh343> ?
[11:16] <yuri_88> hey, my evolution stopped showing messages. i see new email indicator, but can't viwe them!
[11:16] <MonkeyDust> apoage: ask in #ubuntu-studio
[11:17] <deej1976> harsh343: sorry, this is beyond my experience
[11:17] <apoage> MonkeyDust, well ok ..
[11:18] <SilfenX> when loging onto server via terminal, it lists 2 zombie processes - how can I get rid of them?
[11:18] <paul_uk> hey all, anyone using vmware workstation 8 with ubuntu 11.10 and is it stable?  I'm thinking I'll stick with 7 for the time being
[11:21] <mohsinhijazee> Hi,
[11:21] <mohsinhijazee> How do I force updating rubygems on Ubuntu 11.04?
[11:21] <mohsinhijazee> $ REALLY_GEM_UPDATE_SYSTEM=1 gem update --system
[11:21] <mohsinhijazee> This does not wrk.
[11:21] <MonkeyDust> SilfenX: http://www.linuxsa.org.au/tips/zombies.html
[11:23] <SwashBuckla> hello, has anyone got experience in locking down Ubuntu Desktop for public use? I wish to do this
[11:23] <yuri_88> .
[11:23] <SwashBuckla> .
[11:25] <Gentoo64> SwashBuckla: dont give them sudo rights
[11:25] <Gentoo64> :)
[11:25] <req^> Tervehdys!
[11:25] <req^> Opinnäytetyöni on ymmärtääkseni nyt tarkastamista vaille valmis. Ohjaajani on Maritta Hoffrén. Olisin erittäin mielelläni valmistumassa marraskuun aikana, mutta tajusin, että minulta puuttuu vielä Seminaari 2 ja Kvalitatiiviset menetelmät.
[11:25] <FloodBot1> req^: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:25] <req^> Opinnäytetyökansiostani löydän Kvalitatiivisten menetelmien raportin, mutta sitä ei näy Moodlessa palautuksena. Mielestäni palautin sen jo kerran, mutta laitanko sen moodleen, että saisin tuon merkityksi?
[11:25] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:25] <meric> create an account without sudo rights
[11:27] <JoFo> Hello
[11:27] <JoFo> I’ve just found a bug in the Free Mono font. Does anybody know where I can report it?
[11:27] <SwashBuckla> Gentoo64: yeah obviously
[11:27] <deej1976> SwashBuckla: look at sabayon, bastille
[11:27] <yuri_88> fixed! just selected left panel, then chose my imap section
[11:27] <Gentoo64> SwashBuckla: what do they need to do?
[11:27] <SwashBuckla> they just need to browse the internet
[11:27] <req^> Apologies for my paste flood, right clicking accident (I disabled as soon as I did that)!
[11:27] <SwashBuckla> and open office
[11:27] <SwashBuckla> that is all
[11:28] <SwashBuckla> no customising the browser
[11:28] <deej1976> SwashBuckla: and pessulus
[11:28] <Gentoo64> SwashBuckla: not sure if theres an easy way
[11:28] <Gentoo64> without using some access control
[11:28] <SwashBuckla> I may end up using something like Archlinux as it's much easier to customise
[11:29] <Gentoo64> i dont think itll make it easier for what you need
[11:29] <wunnle> hey all
[11:30] <SwashBuckla> Gentoo64: I think it will make it MUCH easier
[11:30] <wunnle> how do i change start of a week to Monday?
[11:30] <Gentoo64> how?
[11:30] <wunnle> (on ubuntu 11.10)
[11:30] <Gentoo64> SwashBuckla: arch wont prevent anyone doing stuff
[11:30] <SwashBuckla> Gentoo64: step 1) only install what you need (firefox and libreoffice)
[11:30] <Gentoo64> SwashBuckla: but it would probbaly be a better start (more clean)
[11:30] <jrib> SwashBuckla: in gnome 2 days there were pretty good guides to locking down and using pessulus on library.gnome.org
[11:31] <SwashBuckla> step 2) write your own desktop environment
[11:31] <Gentoo64> SwashBuckla: but to prevent them changing things, youd need (afaik) some access cntrol
[11:31] <velcroshooz> none of that is going to prevent them from modifying firefox
[11:31] <SwashBuckla> step 3) have some slim login manager and boot to init 5 so they can't spawn terminal
[11:31] <SwashBuckla> velcroshooz: then lock down firefox as per http://www.pcc-services.com/kixtart/firefox-lockdown.html
[11:31] <SwashBuckla> (step 4)
[11:32] <jrib> SwashBuckla: why are you just answering your own question and spamming the channel with it?  Please stop
[11:32] <Gentoo64> i would set up grsecurity(easy) and rbac, but youd need to customise the profiles for each app
[11:32] <velcroshooz> i was wondering that as well .. if you have a plan, why not implement it
[11:32] <Gentoo64> thatd give you strict control
[11:32] <sum1nil> hi
[11:33] <SwashBuckla> jrib, velcroshooz: I first asked if it could be done with Ubuntu (saving me the effort). Nobody could answer me, so I provided my own solution for criticism/review.
[11:33] <Gentoo64> SwashBuckla: but just because arch would be more minimal, wont stop people using stuff
[11:33] <jrib> SwashBuckla: that's fine to do.   But don't spam the channel with it; just write it on one line or use a pastebin if there are many details
[11:33] <SwashBuckla> Gentoo64: "stuff"?
[11:33] <Gentoo64> yeah.. by default: "anything"
[11:33] <SwashBuckla> jrib: ok, I'll do this next time.
[11:34] <sum1nil> has anyone successfully compiled ldap on ubunt, I can't get past configure
[11:34] <SwashBuckla> Gentoo64: please explain what you mean by "stuff"?
[11:34] <velcroshooz> SwashBuckla: well i agree with the arch approach in this case - building up rather than trimming down seems to be more suited to your case
[11:34] <Gentoo64> SwashBuckla: you want restriced access right?
[11:35] <SwashBuckla> Gentoo64: right
[11:35] <Gentoo64> so chromium gives users the ability to customize, as by default chromium has access to a lot of files
[11:35] <Gentoo64> youd need to restrict that
[11:36] <velcroshooz> he has stated he is using firefox and has links to lock it down ..
[11:37] <SwashBuckla> yeah I haven't looked into locking down chromium. If it's easier than locking down firefox, fine, I'll use that.
[11:37] <Gentoo64> stick with ff if you have a solution
[11:41] <xero771> hello, I am trying to mount an iso file in fstab but i am getting an error, here is the line i added /home/uname/something.iso /mnt/isomnt iso9660 ro,loop,auto 0 0, thanks in advance
[11:45] <atif> hi
[11:46] <atif> i have a problem . my totem movie player is only playing sounds of the videos but no visuals are being displayed
[11:46] <tresorine> server irc.epiknet.org
[11:47] <chaospsychex> what happens if i am running 10.10 and software updater says there is a new version and i click UPGRADE? will i lose all my data or will it upgrade to newest ubuntu ?
[11:47] <xero771> atif open the software center and download vlc and the codecs
[11:47] <dr_willis> xero771:  whats the exact line? you are doing this from fstab?
[11:48] <atif> ok
[11:48] <dr_willis> atif:  what sort of video file is this? where did it come from?
[11:48] <velcroshooz> chaospsychex: wont lose your data unless something totally dies - backups are always best, but i just did the same thing last night and lost nothing.
[11:49] <xero771> @dr_willis i am trying to mount an iso image after system start up
[11:49] <dr_willis> xero771:  so whats the exaqct command line you are using?
[11:49] <velcroshooz> chaospsychex: the upgrade will tell you what apps are being upgraded, removed, and what is not supported anymore, you can make the decision from there.
[11:49] <atif> am playing youtube videos
[11:50] <atif> but just sounds are coming no display of videos
[11:50] <dr_willis> atif:  you arew refering to videos In the browser then at youtube.com ?
[11:50] <atif> only blank screen
[11:50] <xero771> nothing just sudo nano /etc/fstab and adding this line /home/myusername/example.iso  /mnt/isomnt  iso9660  ro,loop,auto  0 0
[11:50] <atif> no i imported videos in totem
[11:51] <dr_willis> xero771:  whats the error if you try to do a 'sudo mount /mnt/isomnt'
[11:51] <chaospsychex> can i use DD to make a usb boot from iso ?
[11:51] <dr_willis> chaospsychex:  that works with 11.10, but not earlier ubuntu releases
[11:51] <xero771> @atif can you give us the file extention and tell us did u update your distro?
[11:51] <gener1c> hey, was there a samba update lately that overwritten the smb.conf file?
[11:51] <chaospsychex> dr_willis: how ?
[11:51] <dr_willis> chaospsychex:  dd if=foo.iso of=/dev/sdXX
[11:51] <gener1c> ah shit , the server runs fedora
[11:51] <gener1c> nvm
[11:52] <dr_willis> basic dd ussage.
[11:52] <SwashBuckla> !swear
[11:52] <dr_willis> chaospsychex:  actually it may be of=/dev/sdx   ie: sda, not sda1
[11:52] <atif> well just downloded pre pre release of ubuntu 12.04
[11:52] <atif> may b its a bug
[11:52] <dr_willis> atif:  why would you be using that at this timne?
[11:52] <LinoSP> hi someone knowk how    after creating a new user , generate a file  in the /home/user directory?  (automatically)
[11:52] <atif> after all its not even the alpha
[11:52] <xero771> @dr_willis  after rebooting it gives me two option either skip S or M for manual maintenance  and says it failed to mount in /mnt/isomnt (my iso mount point)
[11:53] <atif> was just damn curious :)
[11:53] <velcroshooz> this is not the channel to be asking for help with that version regardless
[11:53] <atif> wasted my time
[11:53] <atif> now will have to go alalong removing and installing 11.10 again
[11:53] <dr_willis> thats what virtualbox is for.. testing things. :)
[11:54] <atif> very right
[11:54] <xero771> @dr_willis i think i do have a clue on what's really going on, the /mnt/isomnt dir exists but when i ls my /home/username it doesn't view any of my files but rather a README.TXT and access-your-private-data.desktop
[11:54] <chaospsychex> does 11.10 support the b43 wireless card? my wifi card would work out of the box in 10.10 but when i tried 11.04 it wouldnt. will it work out of the box for 11.10 ?
[11:55] <dr_willis> chaospsychex:  my b43 worked in my other laptop
[11:55] <xero771> @dr_willis i think fstab doesn't even see my /home/username to mount from
[11:55] <dr_willis> but the b43 are not the best cards out
[11:55] <chaospsychex> dr_willis: on 11.10 it worked out of the box?
[11:55] <staffcomp> hey..
[11:55] <chaospsychex> dr_willis: why do ppl keep saying that, do you know how many hp laptops have a b43? lol
[11:55] <dr_willis> chaospsychex:  it had to download some firmwarefiles.. and it then worked fine
[11:55] <staffcomp> hi... kat kee!!...
[11:55] <chaospsychex> omg
[11:56] <chaospsychex> thats not what i mean
[11:56] <chaospsychex> i won't have net access to download the firmwarefiles
[11:56] <dr_willis> my one hp laptop worked fine. i was impressed it all worked with so little errort.
[11:56] <dr_willis> chaospsychex:  then you are going to have issues.
[11:56] <staffcomp> some to skype with me?
[11:56] <dr_willis> as far as i know all b43* need addational firmware
[11:57] <chaospsychex> dr_willis: didn't need additional firmware with 10.10
[11:57] <dr_willis> chaospsychex:  i recall needing it with 10.10 also.
[11:57] <dr_willis> and 11.04
[11:58] <tasslehoff> isn't atime updated with 'defaults' in /etc/fstab for an ext4 partition?
[11:58] <chaospsychex> what about the netgeat usb wireless adapter? would that be supported ?
[11:58] <chaospsychex> are most usb wireless adapters supported in 11.10 ?
[11:59] <dr_willis> ive never used a usb wireless on anything. so no idea
[11:59] <dr_willis> it would depend on the exact chipset its using
[11:59] <xero771> realtek works pretty good with me
[12:00] <`cory> hola mis amigos
[12:00] <xero771> should i give up on auto mounting an iso file at the start up and just mount it manually ?
[12:00] <chaospsychex> is anyone in here using a usb wireless adapter?
[12:00] <xero771> i do
[12:00] <dr_willis> xero771:  you couild do it from the command line, or via a command in n /etc/rc.local
[12:01] <chaospsychex> xero771: what kind do u have? netgear?
[12:01] <dr_willis> !iso
[12:01] <meric> in trying to do a mount in ubuntu 11.10 I am not getting access to my home directory and the only path accessible as a targed mounting point is / and /proc can anyone assist
[12:01] <`cory> !md5
[12:01] <chaospsychex> xero771: did it work after you installed or did u have to download firmware?
[12:01] <dr_willis> xero771:  whats the exact fstab entry you are using?
[12:03] <xero771> @chaospsychex i use a usb stick from realtek (azurewave)
[12:03] <paul_uk> hi, with unity how do I connect to a remove server?
[12:03] <paul_uk> *remote
[12:04] <xero771> @dr_willis after rebooting it gives me two option either skip S or M for manual maintenance and says it failed to mount in /mnt/isomnt (my iso mount point)
[12:04] <xero771> @dr_willis after rebooting it gives me two option either skip S or M for manual maintenance and says it failed to mount in /mnt/isomnt (my iso mount point)
[12:04] <xero771> @dr_willis after rebooting it gives me two option either skip S or M for manual maintenance and says it failed to mount in /mnt/isomnt (my iso mount point)
[12:04] <dr_willis> /iso/SLES-9-i386-CD1.iso /free iso9660 loop,auto 0 0
[12:04] <dr_willis> is example line i just googled for mounting na iso from fstab
[12:05] <dr_willis>  /iso-archiv/image.iso /mnt/image1 iso9660 ro,loop,auto 0 0
[12:05] <xero771> @ubonttu Thanks, i am sure my iso file is valid and i did mount it with mount -o loop before and its working but its really redundant to do that everyday.
[12:06] <dr_willis> theres no need for @ on irc...  :)
[12:06] <dr_willis> and ubottu  is a bot...
[12:06] <xero771> ok i feel stupid its my first time on irc^^
[12:07] <paul_uk> hi, with unity how do I connect to a remote server?
[12:07] <xero771> ssh or with graphics?
[12:07] <dr_willis> paul_uk:  File browser has the places/connecgted to server menu item like it always has
[12:07] <susundberg> it kind of depends how you want to connect
[12:07] <susundberg> oh, lots of helpers
[12:07] <susundberg> :)
[12:09] <xero771> is there a mount order fstab?
[12:09] <dr_willis> the order in fstab does not matter
[12:09] <paul_uk> dr_willis, ok worked it out, talk about hidden heh
[12:09] <dr_willis> at least not that ive ever seen
[12:09] <xero771> i put my line at the end of the file and it doesn't read my /home/user
[12:10] <dr_willis> hidden? its right there in the menus...
[12:10] <dr_willis> xero771:  you home is on its own partition?
[12:10] <meric> help trying to do a mount in ubuntu 11.10 I am not getting access to my home directory and the only path accessible as a targed mounting point is / and /proc can anyone assist ?
[12:10] <xero771> yes
[12:10] <dr_willis> xero771:  mount the iso to /media/iso file  and just make a link from /home/whatever/iso to it...
[12:10] <dr_willis> I cant recall ever seeing the order in fstab matter.
[12:11] <Stanley00> meric: can you use the "sudo" command?
[12:11] <burlynn> my feather wallpaper i gone! trains are good too. incremental update from 10.10 to 11.10 went flawless on my laptop .. a macbook even. ;)
[12:13] <xero771> dr_willis: does changing the mount point from /mnt/myfile to /media matter?
[12:13] <meric> Stanly00: Yes I am using sudo
[12:14] <xero771> dr_willis: i think the main problem is that ubuntu isn't even reading my contents in /home/user when i ls from the recovery terminal it doesn't show anything or my folders
[12:14] <dr_willis> xero771:  you are thinking that having the mountpoint be on a subdirectory on a nother mountmoint is the issue.. if you use  /media or /mnt/whatever  it would not be doing that.. so try it and see
[12:14] <xero771> dr_willis: alright
[12:14] <dr_willis> xero771:  your users home is not encrypted is it? THAT could be an issue..
[12:14] <xero771> its not
[12:14] <dr_willis> id just set up links to /media/whatever  personally..
[12:15] <xero771> just installed the system and ignored the ecryption
[12:15] <dr_willis> not much to gain by having it in /home/bubba/iso vs a link to it.
[12:15] <meric> Stanly00: the error given is "mounting failed..invalid argument" its invalid because its not seeing it
[12:16] <xero771> i will try to encrypt the /home/user dir and see
[12:16] <xero771> brb in 10-15^^
[12:16] <dr_willis> xero771:  i did not say to encrypt home...
[12:16] <xero771> hmm
[12:16] <dr_willis> xero771:  in fact encrypting it could cause issues..
[12:16] <xero771> well when i ls my home i get two files
[12:17] <dr_willis> which are?
[12:17] <xero771> README.TXT and access-your-private-data.desktop
[12:17]  * dr_willis is going to guess tha tyour home IS encrypted.. and thats the issue
[12:17] <xero771> the readme was talking about ecrypt-something-private command and i ran it and said its not setup properly
[12:18] <dr_willis> so mount the iso to /media/iso and link it.. is the easy thing..
[12:18] <dr_willis> to do.
[12:18] <dr_willis> somnthing is very weiord with your system then if all you see in your current home is those files.
[12:18] <brainsoft> how do i neable an accesible local address for pen to be run on port 80 while apache is doing to? so both access from diferent local addresses?
[12:19] <xero771> i really didn't change anything in the config files...
[12:19] <xero771> using 11.04 btw
[12:19] <dr_willis> xero771:  as a test. boot a live cd.. see whats in the home dir.. if its not encrypted you should see  the normal files.. if it is encrypted.. well im guessing you would see those 2 files.
[12:19] <xero771> ok brb
[12:20]  * dr_willis is guessing hes got an encrypted home.. somehow.
[12:20] <faint545> anyone know what the character is to denote a comment in Conky?
[12:21] <SwashBuckla> lol
[12:21] <SwashBuckla> or just create another user and see if they can see your files
[12:22] <dr_willis> i never use the encrypted home stuf. :)
[12:23] <Stanley00> meric: sorry, you type my name wrong so I cant get the highlight, so what is the command you use to mount?
[12:24] <bugsweed> hi everyone, need some help. i had edited the file /etc/lsb-release and /etc/issue but why did it changed back to the original setting after i restart.t hanx in advance!
[12:25] <Dave-Maydew> I wonder if anyone can help?
[12:26] <RandomRoger2> Hmm
[12:26] <Dave-Maydew> I'm having Nvidia driver issues when installing or viewing 11.10 on my Sony Vaio VGC-V2M
[12:26] <dr_willis> /pathtoiso/blabla.iso /mnt/iso udf,iso9660 user,loop 0 0
[12:26] <Dave-Maydew> the Desktop is grey and I can't see anything to access
[12:27] <Dave-Maydew> The PC in question has a nVidia GeForce FX Go5700
[12:28] <dr_willis> exit
[12:28] <Dave-Maydew> It runs every other distro without an issue.  Is there a way of installing or activating the driver via the Terminal?
[12:30] <dr_willis> Dave-Maydew:  sudo apt-get install nvidia-current    i recall worked for me
[12:30] <dr_willis>  or theres the jockey-text program
[12:31] <Dave-Maydew> Cheers Dr Willis, now is it worth me upgrading to 11.10 or waiting till the LTS?
[12:32] <dr_willis> i always do clean installs  and i rarely worry about sticking to lts.. :)
[12:32] <dr_willis> 11.10 works for me fine
[12:32] <bugsweed> hi everyone, need some help. i had edited the file /etc/lsb-release and /etc/issue but why did it changed back to the original setting after i restart.t hanx in advance!
[12:32] <deej1976> !repeat
[12:32] <taher> hello
[12:33] <taher> i have problem with ubuntu 11.10 on my hp dv6 6080 laptop
[12:33] <Dave-Maydew> I asked this question on the Ubuntu Forums, but 3 weeks on nobody answered me, hence why I came here
[12:34] <taher> i can't connect my laptop to projector
[12:34] <sagaci> taher: great, what's the problem
[12:34] <dr_willis> Dave-Maydew:  what question? theres alwyas askubuntu.com
[12:34] <taher> and i can't adjust my laptop lcd brightness
[12:34] <Dave-Maydew> Mmm true.  It was the question you answered for me Dr Willis
[12:35] <gry> How do I add current input locale indicator to Gnome3-fallback panel?
[12:35] <taher> can every one help me?
[12:35] <MeanEYE> I am missing some default configuration files for apache. Can someone give me a command to reinstall/restore those?
[12:36] <somsip> MeanEYE: sudo apt-get install apache2 --reinstall
[12:37] <MeanEYE> somsip: Hm, I think I tried that. But it didn't restore it. Let me try again.
[12:37] <taher> how can i connect my laptop to projector in ubuntu?
[12:38] <taher> in win7 when i press key it do this
[12:38] <taher> but i don't know how to in ubuntu 11.10!!!
[12:38] <taher> no any way?
[12:39] <somsip> !patience | taher
[12:39] <bugsweed> hi everyone, need some help. i had edited the file /etc/lsb-release and /etc/issue but why did it changed back to the original setting after i restart.thanx in advance!
[12:39] <dr_willis> taher:  samew as you set up a 2nd monitor.
[12:39] <dr_willis> taher:  and your video chipset is?
[12:40] <taher> dr_willis : my laptop has 2 vga card one intel sandy bridge and other ati
[12:41] <taher> i use intel vga on ubuntu
[12:42] <dr_willis> taher:   those new multi-card setups are still a work in progress on ubuntu. (and linux)  You may want to check into them at askubuntu.com or the forums.
[12:42] <zmbmartin> Anyone recommend a good book about ubuntu for a more moderate to advanced user?
[12:42] <dr_willis> if it works the same as normal intel, the monitors, or displays setting dialog sould let you enable the 2nd monitor
[12:43] <dr_willis> zmbmartin:  any good books wold be on speciifc topics not just ubuntu in general i imagine. :)
[12:43] <dr_willis> zmbmartin:  learning bash, and regular expressions is always a good idea
[12:43] <velcroshooz> or a book on linuxin general maybe
[12:43] <zmbmartin> dr_willis: yeah I do need to advance my knowledge of reg exp
[12:43] <dr_willis> i always hit the bargin bins looking for oreialy books on sale.
[12:44] <dr_willis> all the general books are always too general. :)
[12:44] <MeanEYE> somsip: Nope. Nothing. Am missing /etc/apache2/envvars
[12:44] <dr_willis> 'mastering regular explressions' :)  is a nice find i picked up one day for $5
[12:45] <taher> dr_willis: i asked my question in askubuntu but i can't get respond! http://askubuntu.com/questions/74898/cant-adjust-using-brightness-keys-on-an-hp-dv6-6080-and-cant-using-projector-s
[12:45] <dr_willis> 'usin sed and awk' alsohandy
[12:45] <jasonmchristos> How do I chck if my cpu has pae enabled?
[12:45] <Leao> Whats the use of regular expressions ?
[12:45] <dr_willis> taher:  you did search first to see if others had asked a similer quuestion?
[12:45] <velcroshooz> sed and awk could take up multiple books themselves ;)
[12:45] <dr_willis> Leao:  pattern matching.
[12:45] <Leao> oh the patterns of bash script u mean ?
[12:46] <dr_willis> or searching for text. or parseing inputs.. or files lines
[12:46] <velcroshooz> sed ninjas are very rare.
[12:46] <dr_willis> awk, sed, bash, perl, python,  all have regular expression features
[12:46] <Leao> so its shell scripting variables
[12:46] <taher> dr_willis: i can't find a workable approach on my laptop!
[12:46] <dr_willis> its not limited to shell scripting bariables.
[12:46] <MeanEYE> Anyone knows which package should I reinstall to get /etc/apache2/envvars file back?
[12:46] <Leao> ok i can see the big picture now :p
[12:47] <dr_willis> !find /etc/apache2/envvars
[12:47] <SwashBuckla> velcroshooz: sed ninjas are rare
[12:47] <SwashBuckla> velcroshooz: are you one?
[12:47] <velcroshooz> SwashBuckla: no :/ something i need to work on for sure. sed is a beast when known well.
[12:47] <dr_willis> there ya go :)
[12:47] <[SySteM]> Hello, got a ATI Radeon HD 6500 with direct rendering "Yes", but got unity 2D, i dont understand
[12:48] <dr_willis> be back in a bit..
[12:48] <SwashBuckla> velcroshooz: I just think people need to be given a reason to need to use it
[12:48] <SwashBuckla> if more people handled files, text, and used command-line more, I think there would be more sed ninjas
[12:48] <SwashBuckla> instead it's limited to sysadmins really
[12:48] <velcroshooz> this is true
[12:48] <deej1976> Yes
[12:49] <deej1976> I've just setup a sed script to autoconfigure Apache/PHP it was sweet
[12:49] <llutz_> cli is old-fashioned, GUI is 1337 (so the opinion of todays users majority)
[12:49] <conntrack> lol something changed in the matrix
[12:50] <SwashBuckla> conntrack: there IS no spoon :O
[12:50] <new> hey guys
[12:50] <SwashBuckla> hey new
[12:51] <new> hows it goin swash buckla
[12:51] <julianhille> i have a problem with squid on my ubuntu 11.10 i added it as a transparent proxy in our lan to access the wan. Now my developers cant access a ip with a host header anymore. So mydomain.tld has dns entry ip: <IP_ADDRESS> and if i call now <IP_ADDRESS> with host header mydomain.tld the squid still gets the content from the dns entry server. Any ideas? is this a ubuntu a config a squid or something else problem?
[12:51] <taher> ok i can't find responds to my problems
[12:51] <SwashBuckla> jasef: join #squid
[12:51] <jasef> Huh. Why?
[12:52] <new> i could do with q little guidance to a simple graphical issue iv caused myself
[12:52] <SwashBuckla> jasef: sorry mishighlight
[12:52] <jasef> Lolk.
[12:52] <new> if anyone woulkd care to oblige it wud be much appreciated
[12:52] <SwashBuckla> julianhille: join #squid
[12:52] <MeanEYE> Anyone knows which package should I reinstall to get /etc/apache2/envvars file back?
[12:52] <velcroshooz> new: just ask, if someone knows, they will answer ;)
[12:52] <SwashBuckla> !ask | new
[12:52] <llutz_>  13:47 < ubottu> File /etc/apache2/envvars found in apache2.2-common MeanEYE
[12:52] <deej1976> !repeat | MeanEYE:
[12:52] <new> well
[12:52] <velcroshooz> MeanEYE: you have already been told
[12:53] <new> im on netbook remix i think on an asus Eee
[12:53] <new> i switched to desktop view in settings restarted and now i just get a blank desktop
[12:53] <new> i googled a fair bit but kept coming up short
[12:53] <dr_willis> MeanEYE:  the bot just said...
[12:53] <SwashBuckla> new: please ask your question on one line
[12:53] <dr_willis> !find /etc/apache2/envvars | MeanEYE
[12:53] <new> sorry
[12:54] <jmacgowan> Good morning world
[12:54] <new> but yes, my main issue is i cannot navigate back to the display settings to figure out why my menu bar is invisible on my desktop view
[12:55] <new> it was there before i restarted the netbook and sinc reboot the menu bar and time and everything is gfone
[12:56] <zmbmartin> dr_willis: you got favorites on reg exp books?
[12:57] <new> any ideas swashbuckla???
[12:58] <h-solo> alguien habla español
[12:58] <conntrack> Then you'll see, that it is not the spoon that bends, it is only yourself
[12:58] <llutz_> !es | h-solo
[12:59] <h-solo> gracias
[13:00] <new> pls some one here must be able to help me get into the display settings manually as i have no gui display and need to find the relevant settings menu to change back
[13:00] <SwashBuckla> new: hi new
[13:00] <alberto> Hello everyone
[13:00] <new> hey again swash
[13:01] <alberto> I need some help, I can't configure a network printer with Ubuntu 11.10
[13:01] <SwashBuckla> new: I'm reading through your question posts
[13:01] <alberto> !FirewallD
[13:01] <new> ah wicked thanks sorry iv been protesting in london for a week solid my mind is fried and i just wanna be able to use this netbook properly to document the media lies lol
[13:01] <MeanEYE> dr_willis: velcroshooz: Am not being boring and repeatable. My internet is dying and I don't often recieve messages. Sorry for repeated messages
[13:02] <SwashBuckla> new: wow!
[13:02] <alberto> !firewalld
[13:02] <jmacgowan> @alberto can you elaborate a bit?
[13:02] <SwashBuckla> new: yeah I'd say to try and find out what the name of the settings program is first
[13:02] <new> is that good or bd news to ur eyes??? lol
[13:02] <deavid> i'm trying to install a thermal printer on ubuntu, but cdc_acm takes ownership of it. I tried to blacklist that module, but nothing happens. ¿Can anyone here help me with this?  http://dpaste.com/647256/
[13:02] <SwashBuckla> new: then launch that program from terminal
[13:02] <new> well its just the standard display settings
[13:02] <new> but i am not a linux user
[13:02] <SwashBuckla> new: and you're using Ubuntu Remix?
[13:03] <alberto> jmacgowan Sure, I'm trying to install an HP 1317 series network printer which is connected to a Windows 7 machine
[13:03] <new> im trying to learn as android opened me up to it at first and now i hav a mac old school ppc tower which has a simalair interface and feel to this
[13:03] <new> ubuntu 9.04
[13:03] <SwashBuckla> new: you need to find what Ubuntu Remix calls their display settings program, and then launch that from terminal (assuming you can launch termianl)
[13:03] <new> it was in some crappy netbook view thats like linux for babies
[13:03] <jmacgowan> alberto: Is it connected via TCP/IP or USB the the windows machine
[13:04] <new> i switched to desktop view all was fine till i rebooted and now its all gui gone
[13:04] <alberto> jmacgowan USB
[13:04] <SwashBuckla> new: if you can't run terminal, try and kill the display server
[13:04] <helpless767> Hi. I'm using Ubuntu 10.10. Quite often, w/o any signs "metacity" hangs consuming 99% of CPU. It seems to ignore kill commands from then. Problem makes me have to restart whole PC. Here x-error log: http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/403832/ . Has anybody a clue whats wrong?
[13:04] <new> i have terminal launcher shortcut up
[13:04] <new> and know how to su to root etc
[13:04] <new> jus need to find the app name
[13:04] <new> im baffled
[13:04] <SwashBuckla> new: then change the display manager to something like Twm, edit the config file to launguage the display settings
[13:04]  * phlak_user is back
[13:04] <SwashBuckla> s/laungauge/launch/
[13:05] <SwashBuckla> new: yeah, finding the app name is crucial
[13:05] <MeanEYE> I removed /etc/apache2 and reinstalled apache2.2-common. I got all the files back except for envvars. Is it generater by some script or something?
[13:05] <SwashBuckla> new: ask that question now. good luck.
[13:07] <alberto> jmacgowan It also tells me "FirewallD is not running. Network printers recognition needs mdns, ipp, ipp-client & samba-client to be activated in the firewall"
[13:07] <jmacgowan> @alberto make sure that Windows is set up to share the printer and make sure you're trying to add the printer as a Windows Printer via samba
[13:07] <helpless767> Hi. I'm using Ubuntu 10.10. Quite often, w/o any signs "metacity" hangs consuming 99% of CPU. It seems to ignore kill commands from then. Problem makes me have to restart whole PC. Here x-error log: http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/403832/ . Has anybody a clue whats wrong?
[13:08] <deej1976> MeanEYE: http://paste.ubuntu.com/728144/ default envvars from 11.10 apache2
[13:08] <alberto> jmacgowan Windows 7 file sharing is also a complete mayhem
[13:09] <jasonmchristos> Is ubuntu 10.11 compatible with the vanilla kernal
[13:09] <jmacgowan> alberto yes, yes it is.  I just set up two new servers in the office this week and Win7 hates to play nice
[13:09] <jmacgowan> alberto are you using 11.10?
[13:09] <alberto> jmacgowan Yes, Oneiric Ocelot
[13:10] <SwashBuckla> Oneiric
[13:11] <jasef> Pangolin :D
[13:11] <helpless767> Hi. I'm using Ubuntu 10.10. Quite often, w/o any signs "metacity" hangs consuming 99% of CPU. It seems to ignore kill commands from then. Problem makes me have to restart whole PC. Here x-error log: http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/403832/ . Has anybody a clue whats wrong?
[13:11] <jmacgowan> alberto It looks like that's a know bug, try running 'system-config-printer' from a terminal instead of using the new Control Center
[13:12] <alberto> jmacgowan Ok, thank you very much. I'm going to give it a try. :-)
[13:12] <llutz_> alberto: better to use cups webfront directly "localhost:631"
[13:12] <myung> sh: /home/eca/bin/inxi: not found
[13:12] <myung> You are trying to send an empty document, exiting.
[13:13] <myung> how do i install my graphic card?
[13:13] <jasef> helpless767, did you try using kill -9 or killall -9 instead of just the plain kill?
[13:14] <brontosaurusrex> is there a good torrent client to act as a standalone trackerless torrent server?
[13:14] <Panagiotis13> hey guys, i am desperate! my SUPER+W key combo doesnt work, anyone knows how to fix it?
[13:14] <alberto> llutz_ Cups? I've heard something about that. I've also read some stuff, but never tried it.
[13:14] <jasef> Panagiotis13, mine either - what's it supposed to do?
[13:14] <MeanEYE> deej1976: Thanks!
[13:15] <llutz_> alberto: cups is the underlaying "systemthing" handling printers/printing
[13:15] <Panagiotis13> it suppose to zoom out all windows, and show them side-by-side
[13:15] <Panagiotis13> damn that was an amazing feature
[13:15] <alberto> llutz_ Is that better?
[13:15] <phox_> hi! How to I create a "shortcut" to a folder within a folder? I want my webserver to contain my movie directory on my external hard drive.
[13:16] <helpless767> jasef, srry don't remember exactly what kill command i used. The problem for me is more that it happens quite often. So even if I could kill metacity in some way, I would have to restart whole x-session.
[13:16] <jasef> helpless767, haven't noticed it happening to me recently - have you tried using the Ubuntu2D session instead?
[13:16] <llutz_> alberto: imho its always better to configure things directly instead of using some more or less broken wrappers around it. try it and see
[13:17] <Thelmaria> phox_: ln -s. Also man ln.
[13:17] <phox_> thelmaria, thx ill look into it
[13:17] <Panagiotis13> well, as far as i know, it doesnt work in 2d
[13:18] <phox_> Thelmaria, thx it worked
[13:18] <alberto> llutz_ Then... Is it possible to install a network printer which is connected to a Windows 7 machine?
[13:18] <helpless767> jasef, no just standart mode. I guess I can choose this mode in login screen?
[13:18] <alberto> llutz_ I mean, using CUPS
[13:18] <Frozen> Morning, I just installed new Ubuntu, after updating software and restart it freezes immediately after login (and Ubuntu startup jingle)
[13:18] <Thelmaria> phox_: No problems :)
[13:18] <Panagiotis13> alberto, i did that
[13:18] <jasef> Yeah, it's one of the available sessions if you click the cog near the password field (in 11.10)
[13:18] <Frozen> Can anyone help?
[13:19] <phox_> I have a webserver folder, in which i link to my external hard drive. But I can't see it in the browser when i go to the website!
[13:19] <Panagiotis13> u need a plugin for the printer
[13:19] <jasef> helpless767, ^ see above - sorry, forgot to put your name in the message :(
[13:19] <Panagiotis13> what printer is that?
[13:19] <phox_> does anybody know why that is?
[13:19] <hxmws> Hi All,  can anyone help me with an upstart question?
[13:19] <jasef> !ask | hxmws
[13:19] <JoFo> Hello
[13:19] <helpless767> jasef, thx I'll try this next time. If it doesn't happen then for several hours, do you know anything that might be wrong with metacity?
[13:19] <alberto> Panagiotis13 It's a HP 1310 series
[13:19] <llutz_> alberto: i don't use windows but i guess it is. add as connection" smb://w7machin/printername"
[13:20] <Panagiotis13> oh lucky u! mine is almost identical!
[13:20] <alberto> Panagiotis13 Really?
[13:20] <jasef> helpless767, no, I don't really know why - mine used to do it a bit but it stopped, I use 2D now though to save my resources.
[13:21] <myung> how do i install my graphic card's drivers???????/
[13:21] <Panagiotis13> okey listen, google for something called hplip-3.11.10
[13:21] <myung> I have a Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910
[13:21] <alberto> Panagiotis13 Ok :)
[13:21] <JoFo> I’d like to make a bug report about the truetype font Free Mono. On #debian, they said to use reportbug, but that program doesn’t seem to work on Ubuntu. What should I do?
[13:21] <alberto> Panagiotis13 Done
[13:21] <jasef> JoFo, ubuntu-bug
[13:21] <helpless767> jasef, seems to me like a real bug anyways. Maybe I'll post it into bug tracker....
[13:22] <Frozen> New Ubuntu freezes after login, why? Help available?
[13:22] <Muphrid> myung: intel drivers are free software and included by default in the install
[13:22] <Thelmaria> phox_: Assuming you're using apache, you could look at the documentation for mod_dir, or the DirectoryIndex, which I *think* is what you're after. If you've got an index.[html|htm|php] in the folder, apache may be serving that back instaed of showing index of files.
[13:22] <helpless767> jasef, ok thx for now.  Is that some sort of driver?
[13:23] <jasef> helpless767, -.-. Sorry, my SOCKS proxy on my ubuntu server got disconnected
[13:23] <phox_> Thelmaria: I am using apache. The second I add a file to the www-folder, i see it in the browser, but the link to a folder on a different drive it doesnt even show.  Maybe it's just not possible?
[13:23] <helpless767> jasef, no problem ;) I'll try 2d session for now
[13:24] <JoFo> jasef, who is away, suggested me to use ubuntu-bug. But as far as I understand, Free Mono comes from Debian, not from Ubuntu.
[13:24] <jasef> JoFo, you can still report the bug, it'll be taken upstream if it has to be.
[13:24] <velcroshooz> 11.10 is refusing to wake from automatic sleep/suspend for me - anyone had similar issues?
[13:24] <chaospsychex> ubuntu 11.11 recognized my wireless usb adapter
[13:24] <chaospsychex> *11.10
[13:25] <jasef> helpless767, I used to use Gnome3 as an alternative - works really nicely, except it ate too much of my RAM and battery, so I use Unity2D now.
[13:25] <JoFo> jasef:  OK. (I didn’t see you were back.)
[13:25] <Thelmaria> phox_: According to the apache docs, "The <Directory> directive will follow the symbolic link without resetting the pathname" - so I'd guess it's possible, and that it's a misconfiguration issue - it's not something I have currently got running, though, so I dont know if I can be much more help. I'm virtually certain it's possible, though.
[13:25] <Frozen> 11.10 freezes just after login, any insight?
[13:26] <jasef> helpless767, so if Unity keeps crashing, you could try Gnome3 and see how that works, "sudo apt-get install gnome-shell"
[13:26] <Thelmaria> phox_: You could always ask in #apache. :)
[13:26] <sleepdead> hello everyone! i'm wondering.. how can i choose which services start running on boot, or manually?
[13:26] <phox_> Thelmaria, ok ill do that =)
[13:26] <helpless767> jasef, battery comsume is too high on my side to.... But this is due to the lag of optimus support
[13:26] <chaospsychex> when i try to execute a command using the Administrators password it says authentication error ?
[13:26] <helpless767> helpless, took me hours to make scripts to send acpi commands by hand really annoying ...
[13:27] <helpless767> jasef, took me hours to make scripts to send acpi commands by hand really annoying ...
[13:27] <chaospsychex> i installed 11.10 then made a standard user account and i can't use sudo with the admin password?
[13:27] <velcroshooz> chaospsychex: sudo works with your users passwd, not admin
[13:28] <jasef> helpless767, lol, well my power consumption seems a LITTLE better since my most recent kernel update... don't know if it's coincidence or if they're actually fixing it. I have <IP_ADDRESS>-2
[13:28] <hxmws> I'm trying to use upstart to restart a process that I kick off manually when it crashes 'nohup /usr/bin/ruby /home/blahblah/ruby.rb &' but for some reason I cant seem to get this to work. Am I correct in thinking that i need to add a .conf file to /etc/init? Does anyone have an example of a similar scenario?
[13:28] <chaospsychex> velcroshooz: what? so normal users can make system changes?
[13:28] <MisterMom> oooppps
[13:28] <chaospsychex> velcroshooz: that's a security risk!
[13:28] <_Rod2k> Hello everybody
[13:28] <velcroshooz> chaospsychex: if they are in the admin group, yes
[13:28] <Soul_Sample> what's the best way to mount hard disks at startup\login so that they are accessible only to my account? if i add them to fstab then even guest sessions can access them
[13:28] <chaospsychex> velcroshooz: no, i am talking about using sudo when logged in as a standard user
[13:29] <lauratika> i reinstall ubuntu 11.10 a ubuzillion times already and some how after logging into guest account to configure admin account get stuck in gnome theme and gnome icons, fonts are missing and few icons are also gone frome unity and the system itself... any ideas how to solve this issue, doing a clean install fix it for a while only.
[13:29] <_Rod2k> Well I'm wondering whether I can install GNOME3.2 on Ubuntu 11.11
[13:29] <helpless767> jasef, as far as I know now, the problem on my side is known since over a year and still doesn't get fixed. Can't really understand. If I don't find workarounds I have no choice than to go back to windows...
[13:29] <_Rod2k> whoops, 11.10
[13:29] <chaospsychex> or how do i add a standard user to the sudoers file ?
[13:30] <Thelmaria> chaospsychex: You don't. You add them to the admin group, thus giving them sudo priviledges.
[13:30] <llutz_> chaospsychex: to add users with sudo-access, "sudo adduser <user> admin"
[13:30] <_Rod2k> Has anybody here tried to install GNOME on ubuntu?
[13:30] <xangua> _Rod2k: there is no ubuntu 11.11
[13:30] <iceroot> chaospsychex: if i am correct, add the user to the group "admin"
[13:30] <jmacgowan> \leave
[13:30] <xangua> _Rod2k: if you mean 11.10 oneiric, it comes with gnome 3.2
[13:30] <iceroot> chaospsychex: dont edit the sudoers-file directly
[13:30] <_Rod2k> Yeah I apologized for that already, I meant 11.10
[13:30] <chaospsychex> i don't want them to have admin priveleges
[13:30] <velcroshooz> yeah ... repeat of what was just said
[13:30] <lotia> leave
[13:30] <jmacgowan> 2fail...
[13:30] <iceroot> chaospsychex: you know what sudo is?
[13:30] <chaospsychex> if i am logged in on there account i need to be able to use the sudo command to do things
[13:31] <_Rod2k> Are you sure?
[13:31] <llutz_> chaospsychex: then just don't add them to admin-group. by default only the 1st created user has sudo-access
[13:31] <velcroshooz> chaospsychex: sudo is giving them admin .. so yeah. think it through.
[13:31] <chaospsychex> so 'standard' users can never install software?
[13:31] <velcroshooz> wow.
[13:31] <llutz_> chaospsychex: no why should they?
[13:31] <jasef> chaospsychex, if you want to do admin things in another user, you can type 'su <yourusername>' to switch to your command prompt.
[13:32] <iceroot> jasef: chaospsychex please use "su - username" instead of "su username"
[13:32] <jasef> iceroot, okay, can I ask why?
[13:32] <iceroot> jasef: environment is not setup correctly
[13:32] <zykotick9> jasef, the - basically fakes a login
[13:32] <mimo_> when I switched upgraded from 11.04 to 11.11, I lost my compositing windows manager (?) it went from mutter to compiz (?) I tried to bring mutter back, and now the windows don't seem to be set up correctly.
[13:32] <chaospsychex> that's not working
[13:33] <luca_bi> do you know MOTU??
[13:33] <luca_bi> Master Of The Universe?
[13:33] <jasef> iceroot, zykotick9 - thanks :) I always like to learn something new about Ubuntu.
[13:33] <chaospsychex> in 10.10 all i had to do was 'sudo apt-get install <pkg>' put in the admin pass and it worked
[13:33] <lauratika> ??
[13:33] <llutz_> chaospsychex: sudo never uses roots password
[13:33] <iceroot> !motu | lauratika
[13:33] <iceroot> llutz_: wrong nick
[13:33] <llutz_> besides there is no such in ubuntu
[13:33] <iceroot> grrrrrr
[13:34] <xangua> mimo_: mutter¿ you mean gnome shell¿
[13:34] <iceroot> lauratika: sorry wrong nick
[13:34] <chaospsychex> what's the difference between 'su' and 'sudo' ?
[13:34] <dr_willis> chaospsychex:  non admin users dont install stuff 'system wide;
[13:34] <iceroot> !motu | luca_bi
[13:34] <dr_willis> !sudo | chaospsychex
[13:34] <velcroshooz> chaospsychex: you were not puttinh\g in the admin pass, you were putting in the user pass. sudo does NOT use any pass but the users.
[13:34] <lauratika> masters of the universe please heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp!
[13:34] <luca_bi> ubottu: I read the page can you partecipate to the group??
[13:34] <dr_willis> chaospsychex:  in most cases you dont want to be using su. :)
[13:34] <dr_willis> luca_bi:  ubottu  is a bot..
[13:35] <luca_bi> lauratika: what is your problem??
[13:35] <Thelmaria> chaospsychex: man su, man sudo. su changes to the given username or to root, sudo grants superuser (root) privs.
[13:35] <jasef> I love using su :P
[13:35] <franklin56> is there any talk of the classic view being brought back to 11.10
[13:35] <_Rod2k> I believe that Canonical has switched to GNOME, I just hope this is a definite step and they will never look back at Unity
[13:35] <xangua> _Rod2k: nonsense, unity uses gnome
[13:35] <zykotick9> Thelmaria, sudo can be used for other users as well, su logins in while sudo executes a single command
[13:35] <luca_bi> what is a bot?
[13:36] <xangua> luca_bi: as in robot
[13:36] <jasef> luca_bi, an automated program.
[13:36] <luca_bi> really?
[13:36] <jasef> luca_bi, yes.
[13:36] <luca_bi> wonderful
[13:36] <xangua> !nounity | franklin56
[13:36] <velcroshooz> like bender from futurama.
[13:36] <_Rod2k> xangua I mean in therms of GUI
[13:36] <mimo_> xangua: emm, maybe gnome shell? whatever let me hit ctrl+alt+numpad 7 to place window in top left corner of screen
[13:36] <luca_bi> so we are talking to a robot
[13:36] <xangua> _Rod2k: it uses gnome for the gui
[13:37] <chaospsychex> 'sudo' does work when given an admin password
[13:37] <lauratika> luca_bi: no mater what i do reinstall ubuntu 11.10 iim stuck in gnome theme fonts are missing from the borwser and icons too in unity ...
[13:37] <moodydeath> hi all... small problem with installation on UEFI system, no "ubuntu" entry is created in my boot-options
[13:37] <Thelmaria> zykotick9: Noted. I could have worded that better :)
[13:37] <_Rod2k> xangua I mean the way things and files are manipulated by it
[13:37] <xangua> mimo_: so you have unity and what gnome shell¿
[13:37] <TheProf> Good day.  How do I send a pop-up message to all users logged into my Ubuntu server? Looking for a GUI solution please. I tried notify-send but that is only for one person.
[13:37] <velcroshooz> chaospsychex: that is the user passwd. there is no default passwd set for root... reading would help this confusion.
[13:37] <llutz_> chaospsychex: sudo never uses roots password, it uses users-password
[13:37] <luca_bi> lauratika: If you reinstall it you can lose your data
[13:38] <chaospsychex> well i never set a 'root' password. how do i do that
[13:38] <llutz_> chaospsychex: you don't
[13:38] <TheProf> Purpose is to warn them that the printer will be off-line for the next 20 minutes, or an announcement of some sort.
[13:38] <chaospsychex> then root doesn't have a password?
[13:38] <mimo_> xangua: not sure which gnome shell, how do I find that?
[13:38] <jasef> ... chaospsychex, sudo ALWAYS uses the user password, even with root having a password, sudo would STILL use the user password
[13:38] <lauratika> nope, i have home in a second partition and all my info it's safe... and i already reinstall ubuntu a gazillion times and is not working
[13:38] <llutz_> chaospsychex: you don't have an active root-account, so root needs no password
[13:39] <llutz_> !sudo | chaospsychex
[13:39] <jasef> chaospsychex, no, by default in Ubuntu, there is no root password. But login is denied without a password
[13:39] <velcroshooz> chaospsychex: no, and shouldnt. security issue. instead you give a user admin priveleges, and use that password to enable sudo.
[13:39] <llutz_> !root | chaospsychex
[13:39] <lloyd__> Is there a fairly easy way I can ghost my running/live HD to another connected via USB?
[13:39] <`Abhijit> OCR software in Ubuntu 10.04 .. Any recommends? Thanks
[13:39] <mimo_> xangua: oh, looks like I was using unity? (staring at the clusterbeep.net 11.04 cheat sheet)
[13:39] <lloyd__> And I don't just want a backup of data, I want a backup HD.
[13:39] <llutz_> chaospsychex:follow those links ubottu gave you. you need to know the differences
[13:40] <jasef> Curious for an opinion here, what's more secure about not having a root password and instead using a user password? I mean apart from if the user leaves the computer logged in.
[13:40] <luca_bi> what is the difference between gnome shell and unity??
[13:40] <llutz_> jasef: attackers have to estimate username too
[13:41] <velcroshooz> jasef: its more of a remote invasion issue than local - there is no user by default that has root privs you can login as. its low level secure, but still sound.
[13:41] <jasef> velcroshooz, llutz_, good point, but I have root access to my friend's ubuntu server through the builtin IRC account :P
[13:41] <llutz_> jasef: you are a hero
[13:41] <franklin56> ubottu, thanks
[13:41] <lloyd__> jasef: as llutz_  indicates, there is no root login available and so the attacker does not know of a specific user name for any one Ubuntu system.
[13:41] <velcroshooz> your friend is a poor admin then
[13:41] <MisterMom> `Abhijit, last time i used a scanner the package i used was "sane"  i think thats wahat it was called
[13:42] <zykotick9> luca_bi, besides differences in appearance and functionality, Gnome is created by the gnome foundations, while Unity is created by Canonical
[13:42] <_Rod2k> OK so I have an ATI Radeon HD 4200 and my question is what driver should I select to install on my machine? AFAIK there are two drivers, open source and closed-source aka ati main driver.
[13:42] <lloyd__> jasef: How is it you have "root access"  to a ubuntu server?
[13:42] <chaospsychex> LOL
[13:42] <prashant> goood
[13:42] <chaospsychex> ok i understand it now lloyd
[13:42] <lloyd__> jasef: Has your friend enabled the root account?
[13:42] <chaospsychex> one more question.....
[13:43] <`Abhijit> Thanks MisterMom .. but i was looking for OCR software for image to text conversion .. with GUI if possible
[13:43] <chaospsychex> should i install the 'proprietary' gfx drivers?
[13:43] <jasef> Lol. He was using sudo, and didnt realise it kept the authentication for a short while, and wasnt looking, so he typed the password on the screen in plain text. I quickly logged in with it and did sudo adduser irc sudo, and set its password. And yes - the company that he has his VPS through has root enabled by default.
[13:43] <chaospsychex> my install seems to be running fine, should i install them
[13:43] <MisterMom> `Abhijit, oh i see, not sure about that
[13:43] <Muphrid> chaospsychex: not needed
[13:44] <chaospsychex> good
[13:44] <puff> I have a thinkpad t520 running 10.4 LTS.  Loathe though I am to leave LTS, I need to upgrade to get various things working.  What's the safest way to do this?
[13:44] <velcroshooz> chaospsychex: are you planning on gaming or using high end rendering software? if so, especially on nvidia, i would say yes, otherwise, for normal comp use, no.
[13:44] <puff> I've already backed up my machine, of course...
[13:44] <xangua> !upgrade | puff
[13:44] <`Abhijit> MisterMom, Thanks anyways .. :)
[13:44] <auronandace> puff: a fresh install would be better
[13:44] <puff> auronandace: Hm...
[13:45] <MisterMom> `Abhijit, np :-)
[13:45] <jasef> puff, if you've got everything backed up, would probably be easier to just reinstall and restore your files then apt-get your packages back on.
[13:45] <strangeseraph> Hi, I have a problem getting my netbook to boot from a USB Key with any OS I try to install. The only OS that will boot from a key is Chromium, which I've been trying on my netbook with much success, but now I can't put anything else on it. I get a blinking cursor when the USB boots, and thats it
[13:45] <puff> Dang, was hoping not to spend the weekend reinstalling and reconfiguring everything.
[13:45] <jasef> puff, just so you know, if you install 11.10, and use synaptic, you'll have to apt-get install synaptic - it was removed from the default package set
[13:45] <francisvgarcia> do u know any tool for cloning ubuntu ?
[13:45] <dr_willis> weekend? :) this is ubuntu, not windows.
[13:45] <dr_willis> !clone
[13:45] <phlak_user> puff: download the iso; burn it to cd/usb; boot off it; click install; select upgrade when presented with the option
[13:46] <puff> jasef: I generally use aptitude.  What's replacing synaptic?
[13:46] <luca_bi> zykotick9: What do Ubuntu 11.10 use? Gnome or Unity?
[13:46] <jasef> puff, software center
[13:46] <puff> jasef: ah.
[13:46] <dr_willis> install synaptic if you like it.,
[13:46] <zykotick9> luca_bi, both ;)  Unity requires Gnome, it's a shell
[13:46] <lloyd__> jasef: Well, you have effectively defeated a level of security on that system. (Ubuntu users believe that having the root account dissabled affords an extra level of security.)
[13:46] <prashant> this is prashant
[13:46] <velcroshooz> puff: i just went from 10.10 to 11.10 today incrementally. it may not be the best choice but its doable .. havent seen any issues yet.
[13:46] <prashant> i am new to ubuntu
[13:46] <puff> dr_willis: what's the advantage to cloning?
[13:47] <auronandace> puff: also aptitude isn't installed by default anymore (you can still apt-et it)
[13:47] <francisvgarcia> I have 27 netbooks to install
[13:47] <strangeseraph> repeat: I cannot get my netbook to boot Ubuntu from a USB key
[13:47] <francisvgarcia> and I don't want to install them one by one
[13:47] <jasef> lloyd__, yeah, but once one person has sudo access, it's simple enough to just type 'sudo passwd'
[13:47] <mimo_> thanks guys, I've got an idea now, gonna go tinker with it =)
[13:47] <dr_willis> puff:  you want an identical set of packages installed again, or on a differnt machine.
[13:47] <Muphrid> francisvgarcia: you may try clonezilla
[13:47] <puff> dr_willis: ?
[13:47] <luca_bi> zykotick9: Does Unity require Gnome 3??
[13:48] <puff> dr_willis: I want the same set of packages, etc.
[13:48] <dr_willis> francisvgarcia:  set up an apt-cache server, and use the clone commands.. or do one, and dd the hd image to the rest
[13:48] <zykotick9> luca_bi, in 11.10 it does, previously no
[13:48] <dr_willis> !clone  | puff
[13:48] <auronandace> luca_bi: on 11.10 yes
[13:48] <velcroshooz> strangeseraph: what version of ubnutu are you trying to boot, how did you put it on the usb key, is the bios set to boot from usb .. information is needed.
[13:48] <puff> dr_willis: I'm on a t520 on 10.4 LTS, but a lot of the T520's hardware isn't well-supported on 10.4.
[13:48] <dr_willis> puff:  those commands make a list of packages you then reinstall.
[13:48] <lloyd__> jasef: Well, sure, if you give your computer, (or some sort of direct access to it), to another person - all bets are off when it comes to security.
[13:48] <francisvgarcia> Muphrid I will try so
[13:48] <jasef> lloyd__, yeah. I know. I was just lucky he slipped up with his password lol.
[13:49] <llutz_> jasef: your "friend" has strange friends, compromising his systems
[13:49] <velcroshooz> lucky?
[13:49] <dr_willis> for a small lan of pc's the apt-cacher-ng server setup on a main server is very handy..
[13:49] <jasef> llutz_, I'm not doing anything mean on it :P
[13:49] <Amdpc> HI...Whats the diffrence between Kubuntu cd and kubuntu dvd ?
[13:49] <Panagiotis13> so guys anyone knows how to fix super-w error?
[13:49] <dr_willis> Amdpc:  dvd has extra languages.
[13:49] <llutz_> jasef: you created a security-hole
[13:49] <dr_willis> Amdpc:  most people dont need the cd.
[13:49] <lloyd__> jasef: But what you are trying to say is;  Ubuntu systems are less secure?  (We should take this to #ubuntu-offtopic, I invite  you to follow me there, this is a busy channel.)
[13:49] <dr_willis> Amdpc:  i mean dvd.. :) stick to the cd.
[13:49] <jasef> llutz_, I didn't enable the root account. and lloyd__ kk.
 Does it have more softwares too?
[13:50] <dr_willis> Amdpc:  not really
[13:50] <strangeseraph> I have tried several version velcroshooz, Remix, 11.04, 11.11 Linux Mint, etc. The only OS's I can get my netbook to boot from USB are Chromium and Jolicloud. As to how, I used the Linux USB Creator tool that the Ubuntu website suggested, I torrent the OS, do the USB tool to write the image to my USB key, and set up my netbook bios to boot from USB
[13:50] <luca_bi> zykotick9: Is there a way to understand the version on gnome you are using n ubuntu??
[13:50] <lloyd__> jasef: You just said that you DID enalbe the root account.
[13:50] <strangeseraph> when it boots, unless its Chromium or Jolicloud, I get a flashing cursor
[13:50] <dr_willis> strangeseraph:  with 11.10 you can just 'dd' the iso to a flash drive. :)
[13:51] <xangua> luca_bi: understand¿
[13:51] <dr_willis> strangeseraph:  try the nomodeset option yet?
[13:51] <zykotick9> luca_bi, (i'm not familiar with Gnome3), but isn't there an "About Gnome" somewhere in the menu?
[13:51] <strangeseraph> what does 'dd' mean?
[13:51] <dr_willis> strangeseraph: its a linux command..
[13:51] <strangeseraph> I can't get into grub
[13:51] <strangeseraph> I get my bios screen then a flashing cursor
[13:51] <dr_willis> theres also numerous tools at pendrivelinux that may help get a bootable usb going.
[13:52] <dr_willis> pendrivelinux.com I think is the url
[13:52] <luca_bi> zykotick9: somewhere in the menu??
[13:52] <strangeseraph> also, what is nomodeset?
[13:52] <zykotick9> luca_bi, I don't know the answer sorry.
[13:52] <zykotick9> !nomodeset | strangeseraph
[13:53] <zykotick9> strangeseraph, but if you see a flashing cursor, i think your issue is more likely grub then nomodeset
[13:53] <dr_willis> grub or syslinux
[13:53] <dr_willis> depending on what tool made the bootable pendrive
[13:53] <Amdpc> Where can I download Kubuntu 10.10 cd ?
[13:53] <dr_willis> !download
[13:54] <strangeseraph> since Vanilla Chromium is what is on the netbook right now, I'm not sure whats going on
[13:54] <TheProf> Wow busy channel. I think my question was perhaps lost in the scrolling.  I'm looking for help on how to broadcast a message to all students who are logged into the Ubuntu server please.
[13:54] <dr_willis> strangeseraph:  sounds like some tools are just  making the pendrive incorrectly
[13:54] <velcroshooz> chromium is not an OS for one thing.
[13:55] <dr_willis> TheProf:  they on X or the consoles?
[13:55] <jimmy8888> i have a problem with gdebi not accepting my user password when installing deb files
[13:55] <strangeseraph> I'm talking about Chromium OS
[13:55] <TheProf> dr_willis, Hello.  They are on X.
[13:55] <mayakuza> hello. can anyone help me to gett a mincraft server to work?
[13:55] <Muphrid> Amdpc: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/10.10/release/
[13:55] <TheProf> dr_willis, gnome specifically.
[13:55] <dr_willis> TheProf:  not sure there is a good way to do it.. given how X seucrity works.
[13:55] <obert-> hi.i've to symlink all files of a dir, what is the correct syntax please? ln -s /dir/ dest/dir/ ?
[13:56] <TheProf> dr_willis, is there an OK way? :)
 : All are dvd's I want a cd to download..
[13:56] <dr_willis> obert-:  yiou want to make a  'copy of a directory' that is all symlinks not the actual files?
[13:56] <genii-around> TheProf: Traditionally for console-only it used to be the wall command. But this will not send anything into a user's desktop.
[13:56] <dr_willis> obert-:  i recall cp having some 'make symlinks instead of copying' option.
[13:57] <TheProf> genii-around, I did see some documentation about wall while searching but as you said it is only for console and the kids don't know anything about that.
[13:57] <obert-> dr_willis: not sure. i want to symlink a dir in /var/www but working in my home,basically
[13:57] <Muphrid> Amdpc: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/10.10/ here :P
[13:57] <llutz_> dr_willis: cp -l
[13:57] <obert-> -srf :p
[13:57] <strangeseraph> okay, gonna torrent LTS Netbook version of Ubuntu and try that
[13:58] <dr_willis> http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/10.10/
[13:58] <phlak_user> obert-: ln -s /home/dir/ /var/www/link-name
[13:58] <dr_willis> obert-:  you want a link to the dir.. or the files..
[13:58] <strangeseraph> downloaded a different USB creator from the pendrive site, and this has more features so maybe it'll sort the problem
[13:58] <obert-> dr_willis: -s mm