[02:20] <Kilde> Help. can anyone help me to set up my vinyl cutter with TexPlot?
[02:20] <Kilde> TuxPlot*
[15:29] <kilde__> Help. Does anyone here have  experience setting up a vinyl cutter with TuxPlot?
[15:42] <Eickmeyer> kilde__: I've seen your request for help on here several times, but have been unable to answer. That said...
[15:42] <Eickmeyer> This is all I've found, looks like a video released on Saturday: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hD7OiMeI7qs
[15:43] <Eickmeyer> So, the fact that you received no answers means there's a good chance nobody here has. Have you checked in #ubuntu?
[15:44] <Eickmeyer> Nevermind, I see you're in there now.
[15:45] <kilde__> Eickmeyer: I only asked several times due to my internet connection and my inability to be on here continuously. I will check out the video. Thank you!


[05:26] <sergio-br2> it seems launchpad support git now
[05:26] <sergio-br2> how can I mirror a repo from github?
[05:27] <sergio-br2> ah, it not support mirror yet...
[05:31] <wgrant> Right, we can't automatically mirror repositories yet.
[05:31] <wgrant> But you could cron a pull --mirror and push --mirror yourself.
[05:31] <sergio-br2> at my computer right
[05:32] <sergio-br2> what about the recipes?
[05:33] <wgrant> Recipes require a complete rewrite to support Git, which we haven't done yet.
[05:33] <sergio-br2> :/
[05:33] <sergio-br2> it'll take probably months right?
[05:34] <wgrant> Yes.
[05:34] <sergio-br2> bad thing this git-bzr import does not work pretty well
[05:35] <sergio-br2> anyway, thanks
[05:36] <sergio-br2> bye


[01:21] <paultag> ScottL: where's the dsc?
[01:21] <paultag> ailo: script looks good :)
[01:21] <paultag> ailo: keep up the work :)
[01:22] <holstein> yeah, i tried it paultag
[01:22] <paultag> holstein: yeah?
[01:22] <holstein> ailo 's script
[01:22] <paultag> holstein: mmhum
[01:22] <holstein> works great
[01:22] <paultag> holstein: great :)
[01:23] <holstein> ailo suggested adding it as a starup item
[01:23] <holstein> startup*
[01:23] <holstein> so it just checks on login
[01:23] <holstein> and if youre good to go, you dont see anything
[01:23] <holstein> ScottL: did you get a chance to check it out?
[01:24] <paultag> holstein: there are stylistic stuff i'd change, but ailo knows my comments &c
[01:24] <paultag> holstein: and he knows I'm here :)
[01:24] <holstein> i think it addresses the concerns we have for 11.04
[01:24] <holstein> paultag: it popped up, and added me to the audio group no problem
[01:25] <paultag> radical
[01:25] <holstein> i did have to install some notify packages
[01:25] <holstein> that probably are supposed to be there
[01:25] <holstein> not sure
[01:26] <holstein> 11.04 is definitely in flux at times
[01:59] <ScottL> paultag, which dsc?
[02:00] <ScottL> holstein, not yet, my schedule backed up a bit and probably by friday
[02:00] <holstein> ScottL: no worries
[02:00] <holstein> we should talk about another meeting soon i think
[02:01] <holstein> ScottL: im thinking a weekend day
[02:01] <holstein> sunday?
[02:01] <holstein> *not this sunday
[02:01] <ScottL> holstein, do you mean for ubuntustudio in general or for the website?
[02:01] <holstein> both hopefully
[02:02] <holstein> depending on turn-out i suppose
[02:02] <ScottL> holstein, if for the website then we should try to schedule around stochastic (although i really doubt he will be of much help currently)
[02:02] <holstein> ScottL: if you're sitting around in the next week or so
[02:02] <holstein> with some time
[02:02] <holstein> ping me
[02:03] <ScottL> paultag, if you mean the .dsc for ubuntustudio-video:  ubuntustudio-video.dsc
[02:03] <holstein> and we'll work on how i can plan whatever meeting we need
[02:03] <ScottL> paultag, crap...holdon
[02:03] <ScottL> paultag, okay, here is the ubuntustudio-video.dsc:  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/u/ubuntustudio-meta/ubuntustudio-meta_0.76.dsc
[02:03] <ScottL> although i'm not sure that's any help, i had even looked at the build logs for "video" but didn't find anything strange
[02:04] <ScottL> holstein, i'll try tomorrow during the day while i'm at work
[02:04] <holstein> no hurry :)
[02:06] <ScottL> holstein, it's funny, but i have more time to talk usually during work than when i'm at home :P
[02:07] <ScottL> paultag, buildlog for ubuntustudio-meta (of which ubuntustudio-video is a binary): http://launchpadlibrarian.net/59771827/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-i386.ubuntustudio-meta_0.76_BUILDING.txt.gz
[02:27] <paultag> ScottL: do you have a dsc?
[02:44] <ScottL> paultag, a dsc file?
[02:45] <ScottL> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/u/ubuntustudio-meta/ubuntustudio-meta_0.76.dsc
[02:49] <ScottL> and this page  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/i386/ubuntustudio-video/0.76 says that -video depends on:
[02:50] <ScottL> Depends on:
[02:50] <ScottL>     * blender
[02:50] <ScottL>     * ffmpeg
[02:50] <ScottL>     * ffmpeg2theora
[02:50] <ScottL>     * k3b
[02:50] <ScottL>     * openshot
[02:50] <ScottL>     * qdvdauthor
[02:50] <ScottL>     * subtitleeditor
[02:50] <ScottL>     * xjadeo
[02:53] <paultag> thanks ScottL :)
[02:54] <paultag> ScottL: I'll attempt a build here
[02:55] <paultag> ScottL: right off the bat
[02:55] <paultag> ScottL: I found your error -- ubuntustudio-meta source: debhelper-but-no-misc-depends ubuntustudio-audio
[02:55] <paultag> N:    The source package uses debhelper, but it does not include
[02:55] <paultag> N:    ${misc:Depends} in the given binary package's debian/control entry. Any
[02:55] <paultag> N:    debhelper command may add dependencies to ${misc:Depends} that are
[02:55] <paultag> N:    required for the work that it does, so recommended best practice is to
[02:55] <paultag> N:    always add ${misc:Depends} to the dependencies of each binary package if
[02:55] <paultag> N:    debhelper is in use.
[02:55] <paultag> I'll try a build anyway, but that's a serious issue :)
[03:01] <paultag> ScottL: Whoh, wait wtf!? That package was accepted into the repos?
[03:01] <ScottL> paultag, that's because there is no ubuntustudio-audio anymore, it was divided into ubuntustudo-recording and ubuntustudio-generation
[03:02] <paultag> humm'
[03:02] <ScottL> paultag, aye, but it's my work with TheMuso making small checks and pushing it in
[03:02] <paultag> Ah
[03:02] <ScottL> paultag, but weird thing is that it only started failing within the week :/
[03:02] <paultag> ScottL: let me dig deeper so I'm sure I understand
[03:05] <paultag> Oh...
[03:05] <paultag> that actually looks OK
[03:09] <paultag> ScottL: the long description should have the phrase "meta-package" in it
[03:09] <paultag> ScottL: just a purely strict note -- that's how some stuff checks to make sure it's OK to be empty
[03:09] <paultag> Spam:
[03:09] <paultag> N:    If the package is deliberately empty, please mention in the package long
[03:09] <paultag> N:    description one of the phrases "meta-package," "dummy," "dependency
[03:09] <paultag> N:    package," "empty package," or "virtual package."
[03:10] <paultag> ScottL: another error that might be nice to look into: http://pastebin.com/nRA9ZXqL
[03:11] <paultag> ScottL: other then that, they look like they're building
[03:11] <paultag> ScottL: I don't really want to install these on my box, if you have a few more minutes, I'll set up a chroot to test installability
[03:20] <paultag> ScottL: it builds and works fine, as far as I can tell. The issue must be the package selection
[03:20] <paultag> ScottL: I'm testing it now, I'm downloading a new image just for this :)
[03:21] <paultag> I have a hunch it's x11 fonts, but I'm not sure at all
[03:26] <paultag> ScottL: aptitude is installing -desktop now, from my build deb against the dsc you sent me
[03:26] <paultag> ScottL: I'll test it all
[03:33] <ScottL> paultag, sorry, been away working on plymouth stuff upstairs, reading backscroll now
[03:36] <paultag> ScottL: it's OK.  You're a dad
[03:42] <paultag> if my dad blew me off when I was a kid to work on something like this, I'd be pissed
[04:00] <paultag> ScottL: everything built and installed
[04:05] <ScottL> paultag, lol, roger that
[04:13] <paultag> ScottL: yeah, no issues on install here. Everything looks good. Do you have logs of your error?
[04:14] <ScottL> paultag, i just get an automated email from colin watson that ubuntustudio-video produces uninstallable binaries
[04:14] <paultag> ScottL: do you have a copy of the mail you can send me?
[04:14] <paultag> ScottL: I can't find issues, I'd like to solve this for ya :)
[04:14] <ScottL> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-devel/2011-January/002925.html
[04:14] <ScottL> that's the email, yeah, it's weird
[04:15] <paultag> ScottL: it could be a fluke. I can't verify, perhaps it was because a package was in flux
[04:15] <paultag> ScottL: you have issues on that package, for sure, but nothing that prevents install IMHO
[04:16] <ScottL> paultag, it may be a fluke but it's been going on for about a week :|  weird
[04:16] <paultag> ScottL: srsly?
[04:16] <paultag> crap.
[04:16] <paultag> let me quadruple check
[04:17] <ScottL> a (slightly) better look at the plymouth theme:  if you remember the pictures and how the automated circle wasn't aligned on the CoF: http://www.fossmusicproject.org/public/images/new-plymouth-theme.png
[04:17] <paultag> ah :)
[04:17] <ScottL> now a slightly fuzzy video to accompany it; http://www.fossmusicproject.org/public/video/plymouth.ogv
[04:17] <paultag> awesome!
[04:17] <ScottL> at least now you can see the animation
[04:18] <paultag> for sure
[04:18] <ScottL> eh, i couldn't get the damn thing to show up in VM
[04:18] <ScottL> i was going to use gtkrecordmydesktop or istanbul but when i updated the plymouth theme it just wouldn't show in VM
[04:18] <ScottL> eh
[04:21] <ScottL> i took that video with the family camcorder, which is neither HD nor recently purchased :P, but it is what it is
[04:22] <ScottL> i used blender to cut away all the other parts and created a loop
[04:51] <paultag> ScottL: yeah, dude. I can install it using natty bleeding
[04:51] <paultag> ScottL: something else is going on
[04:52] <paultag> ScottL: might be worth a persia or TheMuso ping
[04:56] <persia> The plymouth theme requires accelerated video, and KMS-capable drivers, which aren't available in VM.  The uninstallable binaries problem is usually caused by something deeper in the stack: try installing it from a minimal environment, or testing a daily image install (of only -video)
[04:57] <paultag> ScottL: no, sorry -- ubuntustudio-video is reporting as uninstallable
[04:57] <paultag> damnit, sorry -- persia
[04:57] <paultag> persia: I did a run on the dsc, there are some serious issues, but none that cause an issue to install
[04:58] <paultag> persia: it built fine ( save that meta-package was not in the long-description, so it thought it was empty on error ), and installed fine
[04:58] <persia> paultag, You were able to install ubuntustudio-video from a new daily?  The same version currently in the archive?
[04:58] <paultag> persia: I tested it all in clean natty chroots, and a natty pbuilder
[04:58] <paultag> persia: the DSC that ScottL provided me
[04:58] <paultag> persia: and I'm confused because it worked
[04:59] <paultag> persia: ubuntustudio-meta_0.76.dsc
[04:59] <persia> uninstallable binaries is always about .deb files, not .dsc files.
[04:59] <paultag> persia: I understand, but I pbuilt it
[05:00] <persia> Yes, but that may not have the same result as the autobuild, as the build-dependencies may have changed.
[05:00] <paultag> persia: Must not be, I have an installable set of debs
[05:01] <paultag> persia: any idea why it's failing on the archive? ScottL is getting mail about it failing to install
[05:01]  * persia is waiting for a natty chroot to become available
[05:01] <paultag> :)
[05:10] <persia> So, the issue is that qdvdauthor has been removed from natty.  ubuntustudio-video needs a rebuild, and would be fine.  A better solution is to update the seeds, then rebuild.
[05:10] <paultag> persia: any idea why it was working on my system?
[05:10] <persia> The local build was fine because the germinate package build process never creates uninstallable binaries: they can only happen if the packages change *after* build.
[05:11] <paultag> Ahhhhhhh
[05:11] <persia> So the local package doesn't depend on qdvdauthor, although the binary in the archive does.
[05:11] <paultag> I see, I see
[05:11] <paultag> persia: great, that solves a lot. A simple re-upload should solve it ( after fixing germinate, of course, even though it should work without a tweek )
[05:11] <persia> local rebuilds are a wonderful way to check if some source is clean, but when investigating issues with binary packages in the archive (NBS, uninstallable, unmetdeps, etc.), apt-cache or inspection of the archive binary is more useful.
[05:12] <persia> A simple rebuild would work, although seed changes would be better.
[05:12] <paultag> persia: I see. I still have tons to learn with packaging -- I've only dabbled
[05:12] <persia> There's some reason that qdvdauthor was selected.  Since that isn't available, a replacement should be seeded.
[05:12] <paultag> persia: aye, something ScottL might want to fix up :)
[05:13] <persia> Also, qvdauthor was from multiverse: the rest of the seeded packages should be checked: if there is stuff from multiverse, it ought be inspected to ensure the license doesn't block any of the known uses of Ubuntu Studio.
[13:01] <ScottL> persia, hi!
[13:02] <ScottL> persia, paultag: yes, i will find something to replace dvdauthor in the next days as well as inspect the other packages to see if they are in multiverse as well
[13:02] <ScottL> top of the morning to everyone :)
[13:07] <paultag> ScottL: Howdy!
[13:07] <paultag> Just getting ready to go Scuba diving
[13:07] <paultag> college rules
[13:09] <ScottL> i think i <3 paultag 's life :P
[13:09] <ScottL> i'm getting the kids up for school and babysitter in contrast
[13:10] <paultag> ScottL: nah, I live the life of a dirty college kid who lives with 6 other people
[13:20] <paultag> ScottL: but, yeah this is rad. I'm getting certified to Scuba, so if you need programmers underwater, you let me know
[13:58] <astraljava> ScottL: "Getting the babysitter?" Sound promising, and is much more that I am "getting" these days. :D
[14:09]  * paultag highfives astraljava
[14:09] <paultag> astraljava: NICE!
[14:17]  * astraljava bows humbly
[14:44] <holstein> AutoStatic: ping
[14:45] <AutoStatic> Hello holstein
[14:45] <holstein> AutoStatic: morning :)
[14:46] <holstein> if we had a meeting here
[14:46] <holstein> what would be the best time/day for you?
[14:46] <holstein> i was going to try for sunday afternoon my time
[14:46] <holstein> afternoon/evening
[14:46] <AutoStatic> weekdays between 10.00 and 17.00 CET
[14:47] <ailo> Put around +6 hours for us in Europe
[14:48] <ailo> Something like 3pm your time, holstein?
[14:48] <holstein> thats going to be tough :/
[14:48] <holstein> ScottL will be at work then
[14:48] <AutoStatic> In the evening is ok (CET) but not on tuesday and sunday, the n I'm rehearsing
[14:49] <holstein> thats 3am to 11am my time
[14:49] <holstein> i think thats 4am til noon for ScottL
[14:49] <holstein> hmmm
[14:49] <holstein> AutoStatic: sundays are not great for me either
[14:51] <holstein> ailo: you're in the same TZ ?
[14:51] <holstein> how about something in the afternoon saturday?
[14:51] <ailo> I'm +1. So is abogani.
[14:51] <holstein> like 10am for you guys?
[14:51] <ailo> holstein. Your afternoon would be our late night, no?
[14:52] <ailo> Or evening, I mean
[14:52] <holstein> im probably going backwards
[14:52] <AutoStatic> 10am sounds good to me
[14:52] <AutoStatic> I'm up early anyway
[14:52] <holstein> YEAH
[14:52] <holstein> the other way
[14:52] <ailo> 10am would be 4pm
[14:52] <holstein> 4p for you guys
[14:52] <holstein> am for us
[14:52] <AutoStatic> ah oh, 4pm should be ok too
[14:53] <AutoStatic> I do have a baby to feed ;)
[14:53] <holstein> AutoStatic: i'll see what ScottL 's saturdays are like usually
[14:53] <AutoStatic> and to look after :)
[14:53] <abogani> ailo: Where do you come from?
[14:53] <holstein> AutoStatic: i'll try and get it on the fridge
[14:53] <holstein> for the TZ's
[14:53] <holstein> maybe a couple weeks or so from now
[14:53] <ailo> abogani: Sweden.
[14:53] <abogani> ailo: Wow
[14:54] <ailo> (Finland originally)
[14:54] <holstein> hopefully before we miss 11.04 freeze or whatever
[15:21] <scott-work> i finally got a response from canonical about selling ubuntu studio merchandise to try to fund development...they said no
[15:21] <scott-work> although it can be done for personal use, just not commercial
[15:58] <holstein> scott-work: maybe it should be a different question
[15:59] <holstein> how do we get the funds necessary for ubuntu studio specific development ?
[15:59] <holstein> scott-work: how are saturday mornings for you?
[16:00] <holstein> for a meeting, say 10am my time
[16:38] <scott-work> holstein: i can make any time work almost, except for while i'm asleep
[16:38] <scott-work> holstein: re: funds - that's a good thought, i just might start poking people to do that
[16:39] <scott-work> although i admit that i have harped on getting developer help for quite some time, and when ailo and paultag offered help i found myself unsure what really needed to be developed
[16:40] <scott-work> so, before i do push any further it would be prudent to identify areas we want development
[16:40] <scott-work> also how it might also affect ubuntu in general to make it more palatable and appealing to canonical
[16:41] <ailo> scott-work: Sounds good to me..
[16:41] <scott-work> holstein: last night you mentioned getting a minute to talk, anytime you are ready let me know
[16:41] <scott-work> ailo: today i want to spend some time developing a better spec for the ubuntustudio-controls/kernel imrpovements
[16:43] <ailo> scott-work: I'm for a remake of ubuntustudio-controls. I don't feel it is critical to have it ready for Natty, though.
[16:44] <scott-work> ailo: i thought it would be the vehicle for getting your script into ubuntu studio
[16:44] <scott-work> and the -controls improvements could even be staggered between releases
[16:45] <ailo> scott-work: My script is designed to run at startup, or automatically started for instance after installation of audio meta-packages.
[16:46] <scott-work> ailo: aye, but we need someone to actually get in onto the image, which would mean either a new package or include it in an existing package, no?
[16:46] <ailo> Yes. And we need to add at least one dependency.
[16:47] <ailo> So, is it only MOTU that gets our packages into the repo?
[16:52] <ailo> Scott-work: -lowlatency and audio group are related only to audio, but in a way I think those could just as well be regarded as the standard setup for US.
[16:53] <ailo> Since they should not cause any problems.
[16:54] <scott-work> ailo:  but how will the script run?  will the user have to run it manually or will it run automatically after a fresh install?
[16:55] <ailo> I don't know how to make "install scripts" for packages, so I don't know how to put it where it needs to be, and how to activate it without rebooting, but..
[16:56] <ailo> If I add it as a startup application, it will run at every boot
[16:56] <ailo> It would be best if it ran after install too, or that something similar to the script was included in the installation itself.
[16:58] <ailo> If we could add the choices into a package installation, maybe my script is not as important, or could be used just to notify the user when booting into the wrong kernel.
[16:59] <ailo> Am I making any sence?
[17:01] <ailo> scott-work: Automatically adding PPA to a package installation is not allowed, but how about if we present the choice during installation?
[17:01] <ailo> Is it still not allowed?
[17:29] <ailo> scott-work: I've only just begun to learn about packaging, but I could find out about all the options and have different possible solutions ready around this script 'til next meeting.
[17:35] <scott-work> ailo: my understanding is that if any code in not in a package in the repository then it cannot be added to the image during building
[17:36] <ailo> scott-work: so how and when can we add it?
[17:36] <scott-work> ailo:  so, i think we have two choices forward: 1) let the user choose to download and run it   or 2) include it into a package
[17:36] <scott-work> ailo: i think #2 is the better choice
[17:37] <scott-work> ailo: i think adding it to the -controls package seems most relevent, but someone else might have a better suggestion
[17:38] <scott-work> ailo: but i think part of your script should be incorporated into this update (especially the part checking the kernel version, etc)
[17:38] <scott-work> if not all of your script
[17:39] <scott-work> ailo:  i would also expect that we can use the -controls gui to offer the choices to the user to enable the PPA and install the kernel after your script checks it
[17:42] <ailo> scott-work: I know you checked if adding a PPA being a part of a package installation was allowed and they said no, but how about if the user is given the choice during the install? I think that would be the absolute best.
[17:43] <ailo> Using the -controls gui could be preferable.
[17:43] <ailo> For my script, that is
[17:46] <scott-work> ailo: i think that giving the user the choice to add the PPA and install the kernel would be acceptable
[17:47] <ailo> scott-work: Let's add that. If possible, also put user in audio group, but I don't know if that can be done from a package installation. I suppose it is run as root.
[17:50] <scott-work> ailo: we should really find a mechanism to allow all this to happen not just during "package installation" because many people will also be installing from the ubuntustudio image/dvd
[17:52] <ailo> scott-work: Won't it work the same way, no matter how you install it?
[17:54] <scott-work> ailo:  i don't think so if you are asking the user to click something, the full installation will want to reboot after it installs and unless you also have it check on reboot
[17:55] <ailo> scott-work: No clicking. Just like installing jackd
[17:55] <ailo> You are given the choice to add the limit.d stuff
[17:55] <scott-work> ailo: okay, that might work also then :)
[17:56] <ailo> scott-work: Maybe "postinst" script, a part of a package. I was just reading about it, so I'm not sure.
[17:56] <scott-work> i was envisioning this as more of an automated script to run and check, then bring up ubuntustudio-controls to the "kernel tab" of the gui and tell them they could improve performance if they click the button and hit okay
[17:57] <ailo> scott-work: That is what my script does, essentially, but if we can add the kernel already at base install, is that not better
[17:57] <ailo> And we can still use my script
[17:58] <scott-work> ailo: thinking on this, i'm not sure during the install is the right place after all, at the point of installing other packages the kernel has already been installed during the full install
[18:00] <ailo> scott-work: The effect will be the same either way, no?
[18:01] <scott-work> ailo: i don't know if it would be during the initial installation, we should probably asking persia or TheMuso about such a thing
[18:01] <ailo> persia: TheMuso: Could you help us out?
[18:02] <scott-work> but i feel fairly confident if we moved the actual installation of the kernel into the -controls package and either let the user or the script call up -controls then it should work without problem
[18:04] <ailo> scott-work: It would work. I would replace the -controls entirely, though. And I'm not absolutely sure we need it to get what we want.
[18:04] <ailo> I mean, it looks nice, and can be started independently. Maybe for that reason only.
[18:05] <ailo> We don't need it to get what we want, but it could be a nice extra.
[18:06] <ailo> scott-work: Did you try the script yet?
[18:07] <ailo> Just do: git clone git://gitorious.org/audio-system-check_11-04/audio-system-check_11-04.git audio-system-check_11-04
[18:12] <scott-work> i'll try it tonight and then move back to packaging the xsession fix
[18:24] <falktx> scott-work: hey there
[18:24] <scott-work> hi falktx
[18:48] <paultag> scott-work: I'll stick in a holding pattern. Things tend to be small and short-term, and workarounds are found ( but not ideal )
[18:49] <paultag> scott-work: so I can help snipe issues as they pop up
[18:49] <paultag> think of it as a code retainer ;)
[18:50] <scott-work> lol
[19:23] <quadrispro> hi all
[19:24] <paultag> hey quadrispro
[19:24] <quadrispro> new swami release will reach natty soon
[19:24] <quadrispro> ehy paultag !
[19:25] <paultag> quadrispro: s'new?
[19:25] <quadrispro> ?
[19:26] <quadrispro> paultag, what? :)
[19:26] <paultag> quadrispro: what's new?
[19:27] <quadrispro> paultag, about swami?
[19:28] <paultag> quadrispro: no, goofball, you
[19:28] <falktx> quadrispro: hey there
[19:28] <quadrispro> lol
[19:28] <falktx> quadrispro: do you know the "juce" library ?
[19:29] <quadrispro> paultag, I'm sorry, very tired tonight :)
[19:29] <paultag> quadrispro: quite alright
[19:29] <quadrispro> paultag, thoughts are coming with an huge delay to my mind
[19:30] <quadrispro> paultag, nothing of particular, squeeze is coming out, I have always the same 4 exams to get my f***ing degree
[19:31] <paultag> quadrispro: truth
[19:32] <quadrispro> and althought life is hard, it's always beautiful
[19:32] <quadrispro> (cit. R. Benigni)
[19:33] <quadrispro> falktx, I've seen something but never tried
[19:33] <quadrispro> paultag, and you mate? how're you doing?
[19:33] <paultag> quadrispro: well, thanks. School's just picking up again, getting depressing
[19:33] <falktx> quadrispro: I started packaging it for the ppa, if you're interested just let me know
[19:33] <quadrispro> falktx, fst: which git branch should I push into debian?
[19:34] <falktx> quadrispro: i recommend jack-session
[19:34] <scott-work> quadrispro: is eq10 (or whatever it name is) is also in debian :)
[19:34] <falktx> people seem to care about jacksession...
[19:36] <scott-work> eq10q is the pacakge
[19:36] <quadrispro> paultag, school gives everyone the same feeling! :)
[19:36] <paultag> :)
[19:37] <quadrispro> falktx, good to know (for both)
[19:37] <quadrispro> scott-work, eq10q is broken, I've been thinking to ask ftp-master to remove it for now
[19:37] <quadrispro> this time Jaromìr failed to do a good job
[19:37] <quadrispro> (unfortunately)
[19:38] <quadrispro> and I failed, too, in reviewing it
[19:38] <falktx> quadrispro: how broken ?
[19:38] <scott-work> quadrispro: oh, that's sad but it happens from time to time
[19:38] <quadrispro> falktx, get it, build and try to load it
[19:38] <quadrispro> and let me know :)
[19:38] <falktx> quadrispro: i have it working here
[19:38] <falktx> (not from debian)
[19:38] <falktx> quadrispro: let me check it
[19:39] <quadrispro> falktx, so please help me reviewing the package: http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-multimedia/eq10q.git
[19:39] <quadrispro> I don't have so much time this period
[19:40]  * quadrispro announcement: natty will have a great gmerlin version
[19:40] <falktx> quadrispro: has anyone looked at foo-yc20 ?
[19:40] <quadrispro> unfortunately, I think that ftp-masters will not accept gmerlin-avdecoder and gmerlin-encoders in time for the release
[19:40] <quadrispro> falktx, already uploaded, ftp-master rule now
[19:40] <quadrispro> s/master/masters/
[19:41] <falktx> quadrispro: there's a new version with lv2 support
[19:41] <paultag> falktx: quadrispro: ftp-masters stop doing NEW queues during freeze, unless you have a reason
[19:42] <quadrispro> paultag, they have accepted many packages in the last month, but now squeeze is so near
[19:42] <quadrispro> falktx, which version?
[19:42] <quadrispro> I see 1.1.0 in the vcs
[19:42] <paultag> quadrispro: yes, like one of mine
[19:42] <paultag> quadrispro: but I talked with one of the ftp-masters and got it reviewd
[19:42] <falktx> quadrispro: http://linuxaudio.org/mailarchive/laa/2011/1/20/177875
[19:43] <quadrispro> well
[19:45] <falktx> it has VST too, I'll try to compiled it
[19:45] <quadrispro> pushed
[19:55] <holstein> scott-work: got busy
[19:55] <holstein> i'll try and catch you later
[19:55] <holstein> i was thinking development in general though
[19:56] <scott-work> holstein: sounds good :)  anytime
[19:56] <holstein> couple guys like falk and abogani on staff
[19:56] <holstein> not that that would happen
[20:00] <falktx> quadrispro: ha, I can see you working...
[20:01] <quadrispro> http://debomatic64.debian.net/unstable/pool/foo-yc20_1.2.0-1/foo-yc20_1.2.0-1.buildlog
[20:01] <quadrispro> builds fine
[20:01] <falktx> cool
[20:02] <quadrispro> a number of stuff to tune now
[20:02] <quadrispro> http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-multimedia/foo-yc20.git
[20:03] <quadrispro> go to the above URL to see the progress
[20:08] <falktx> quadrispro: eq10q doesnt build for me (missing lvplugin.hpp)
[20:09] <falktx> ah, missing stuff. instaling now
[20:10] <falktx> quadrispro: thanks for swami! is it safe to backport ?
[20:12] <quadrispro> falktx, no tests here, we should give it a try
[20:12] <falktx> quadrispro: eq10q still fails to build for me
[20:12]  * falktx makes a diff
[20:14] <falktx> I think it's the patches that are a bit off
[20:26] <falktx> hm... fixed?
[20:29] <falktx> quadrispro: is eq10q pushed to debian ?
[20:30] <quadrispro> yep
[20:31] <falktx> quadrispro: I fixed the patch (package now builds)
[20:31] <quadrispro> eh, and does it work?
[20:32] <falktx> let me test
[20:37] <falktx> quadrispro: the plugin loads (shows GUI)
[20:37] <falktx> but I dont know how to use it
[20:39]  * quadrispro on phone
[20:40] <falktx> quadrispro: I sent you the patch by mail
[21:01] <quadrispro> falktx, thank you, 'll take a look later!
[21:01] <falktx> :)
[21:01] <quadrispro> going away now, see you guys!
[21:28] <falktx> err, foo-yc20 freezes when compiling


[03:28] <danstoner> ShawnR: +1 stick with LTS versions if you can.
[03:36] <ShawnR> yeah, i was just debating to wait for 13.04 or go head and move to 12.04.  There's no immediate need for either one, just wanted to update.
[03:41] <govatent> def would stick to lts release
[03:41] <govatent> is 12.04 lts for server too?
[05:15] <ShawnR> yeah, 12.04 server is LTS as well.  i thought all .04 releases were LTS for both desktop and server


[21:29] <yano> http://www.forbes.com/pictures/edgl45iif/no-3-columbus-ohio/
[21:29] <jenni> [ No. 3: Columbus, Ohio - pg.3 ] - https://bit.ly/2fJ6iA0