[07:54] <ara> morning all!
[08:04] <davmor2> Good Morning Everybody
[08:04] <ara> good morning davmor2!
[08:06] <slangasek> prelim beta images posted, alternates only at this point
[08:07] <davmor2> slangasek: is netboot safe to test too I might try and get that out of the way again first
[08:08] <slangasek> should be the same, yes; I'll post those now
[08:08] <davmor2> thanks
[08:10] <davmor2> slangasek: is ubuntu live still oversized?
[08:10] <slangasek> yes, that's being worked on.
[08:15] <slangasek> hmm, the ubuntu daily didn't build
[08:16] <slangasek> ... in fact, none built
[08:16] <slangasek> bah
[08:18] <davmor2> slangasek: see that's what happen with xubuntu yesterday it got built in the end though
[08:18] <slangasek> no, this is an unrelated failure
[08:33]  * davmor2 burn netboot after waiting seconds for it to download :)
[08:34] <ara> slangasek: this is a broken link http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/20080930/intrepid-alternate-i386.iso
[08:35] <slangasek> yes, they're all broken; I'm trying to figure out why
[08:36] <davmor2> and netboot stops at boot: still
[08:37] <davmor2> ara: if your bored you can always start on netboot :)
[08:37] <ara> davmor2: I have a lot more to avoid getting bored :-)
[08:38] <davmor2> ara: Really you do supprise me :)
[08:38] <davmor2> s/supprise/surprise
[08:39] <davmor2> everyone I speak too in *buntu land is busy isn't that so.
[09:00] <slangasek> ok, fixed daily alternate builds coming (ubuntu up, others to follow shortly)
[09:08]  * ara starts downloading alternate i386
[09:18] <slangasek> kubuntu, ubuntu-server, and xubuntu alternates should all be up now
[09:19] <slangasek> (ubuntustudio, mythbuntu following soon)
[10:37] <davmor2> heno: morning
[10:42] <ara> I get an error when trying to install alternate in vbox
[10:45] <ara> no installable kernel was found
[10:46] <davmor2> ara: I can try it on hw shortly for you to see if it is vb
[10:47] <ara> davmor2: thanks
[10:48] <davmor2> ara: new iso coming shortly mvo broke it :)
[10:48] <ara> davmor2: ok :-)
[10:53] <heno> hi davmor2, ara
[10:53]  * heno tries vbox
[10:54] <ara> heno: hey
[10:55] <davmor2> heno: I'm guessing if it's alt it will fail
[10:55] <ara> heno: builds are broken now, new images to come
[10:55] <heno> ok, I'll try live in that case
[10:57] <davmor2> heno: live is borked or oversized
[10:58] <ara> davmor2: do you know if the kernel issue affects all *buntu?
[10:58] <ara> davmor2: or only ubuntu?
[10:58] <heno> it's booting though, so I'll give it a spin
[11:01] <davmor2> ara: yeap all the alt images are screwed should be fixed very shortly though :)
[11:01] <persia> Ah.  I was wondering why I didn't get a new alternate lpia image today.
[11:04] <davmor2> heno: live should work for ubuntu the other live images are from yesterday though
[12:00] <davmor2> bugger me thinks I've hit slowband :(
[12:39] <stgraber> doh :(
[12:40] <davmor2> stgraber: not to worry I got the netboots out of the way :)
[12:41] <ara> ubuntu alternate images are now available
[12:41]  * ara starts downloading i386 ubuntu alternate
[12:42] <davmor2> all bar xubuntu desktop should now be available :)
[12:44] <asac> hi
[12:44] <asac> anyone has a fresh CD install and could give me a list of plugins installed by default in firefox?
[12:44] <asac> e.g. about:plugins
[12:44] <asac> thanks
[12:47] <persia> asac: Would a liveCD report meet your needs, or most it be post-install?
[12:48] <davmor2> asac: I can give you one from edubuntu if that is any good to you
[12:49] <asac> i think livecd should be good enough
[12:49] <asac> assuming that we dont install other plugins on top
[12:58] <persia> Right.  I'll boot one.
[13:00] <davmor2> is just going to fall asleep while he waits for the rsync script to do it's work :)
[13:17] <persia> Hrm.  I can't boot the latest daily I have :/  Maybe someone else can get a list of firefox plugins?
[13:24]  * heno looks
[13:25] <persia> heno: I'm booting USB images created with usb-creator (now working), so a real CD might not be the same.
[13:30] <heno> print, divx, quicktime, totem, wmp
[13:34] <heno> nullplugin, linuxprint, totem-mully, totem-narrowspace, totem-basic, totem-gmp <- asac
[13:37] <asac> heno: could you send me your pluginreg.dat (its in the profile and should contain all those you listed above + some additional information) ?
[13:38] <heno> asac: sure
[13:40] <heno> asac: um, where is it?
[13:40] <asac> heno: in your profile
[13:41] <asac> there might be two ... one in .mozilla and one in .mozilla/firefox/.../
[13:41] <asac> not sure which one is the right one
[13:41] <asac> but if its a fresh install there hopefully will only be one
[13:47] <heno> asac: I have such a file in both locations on my regular system but there is no file by that name _anywhere_ on a fresh install (I searched the whole filesystem)
[13:57] <asac> heno: strange. can you save the about:plugins page then?
[13:57] <asac> e.g. file -> save page as ...
[14:15] <heno> asac: email sent
[14:15] <liw> hm, testing is starting?
[14:20] <persia> liw: Well, images are available to test.  They are subject to change as initial reports come in.
[14:20] <liw> sure, that's the usual routine
[14:29] <davmor2> Yay downloads finished
[14:32] <heno> yay, 64-bit guests in vbox actually work now
[14:32] <heno> seems a bit slow though
[14:38] <davmor2> heno: it is the first release to support it though :)
[14:38] <heno> yep
[14:39] <heno> screen updates were a bit slugish, but the install itself is going fairly quickly TBH
[14:42] <ara> on my first session with ubuntu i386 (installation went correctly), gnome-settings-daemon started late, and human theme was loaded 4-5 sec after the session was started
[14:47] <davmor2> so ubuntu, Kubuntu desktop, alternate. Ubuntu-server and Xubuntu alt should all be up now :)
[14:49] <Koon> davmor2: I've written a test case for the "Tomcat server" task in Ubuntu server installs... is there a way it could be added to the server tests ?
[14:49] <Koon> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Cases/ServerInstall#tomcat-server
[14:50] <davmor2> Koon: heno or stgraber will be you best bet for that :)
[14:51] <Koon> davmor2: thx !
[14:52] <Koon> heno, stgraber: let me know if it's still possible to add that test to iso.qa.u.c  at that point :)
[15:01] <stgraber> Koon: I guess there is a wikipage with a list of testcases to add/update/remove in the next updated
[15:01] <stgraber> sbeattie: ^
[15:02] <sbeattie> Doh, I'd forgotten to create that page.
[15:02]  * stgraber takes Ubuntu Server i386
[15:05]  * davmor2 is taking wubi and m-a and then will look at what is left :)
[15:05]  * heno is doing amd64 ubuntu alternate
[15:05] <persia> sbeattie: If you're the page master: which page would have the guide for adding another flavour to the tested set?
[15:06] <stgraber> persia: do that on the same, as soon as it's created
[15:06] <stgraber> I'll make sure they all are updated by RC
[15:06] <persia> Cool.  I wanted to get Ubuntu Mobile for beta, but I think it's too late now.  Having it for RC is enough.
[15:07] <davmor2> persia: did you get to the bottom of the usb creator issue you had?
[15:07] <persia> davmor2: Yep.  missing dependencies.  apt-get install ubuntu-desktop made it work.
[15:09] <persia> davmor2: bug #275840 demonstrates how poorly i can spell, but is the bug to track if you're having the same issue.
[15:12] <davmor2> persia: never tried it just wondered :)
[15:13] <persia> davmor2: Once I got the dependencies working, it seems to work fairly well,  Bug #273481 tripped me up the first time, and I've some minor wishlists, but it certainly saves on CD burning for hardware install tests.
[15:14] <persia> It's a neat trick to be able to do an install from one USB key to another, for a full hardware test without affecting the installed system.
[15:15] <sbeattie> stgraber|persia: I added a small todo section to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Cases#todo
[15:15] <davmor2> damn microsoft and their updates :(
[15:15] <persia> sbeattie: Thanks.  That's where I should list flavours and testcases?
[15:15] <sbeattie> Koon: I added a note about tomcat install to the todo for you
[15:16] <Koon> sbeattie: great, thx
[15:16] <sbeattie> persia: assuming stgraber reads it, yes. :-)
[15:17] <persia> How many test cases do I typically need to start?  Just the basic boot/install set?
[15:19] <davmor2> persia: pretty much
[15:20] <persia> Thanks!   I'd like to upgrade today to let it run for a while
[15:29] <stgraber> sbeattie: I'm subsribed to Testing/* so I'll know when someone change it :)
[15:58] <davmor2> ara: have you done an announcement for the next testing day by the way?
[15:59] <ara> davmor2: not, yet, it is on the wiki, but we are finishing with the preparation of the topics and sessions before doing the announcement
[15:59] <davmor2> okay
[16:10] <davmor2> my god vista is sssssssssssssooooooooooooooooooooo slow
[16:21] <tgm4883_laptop> slangasek, Is it possible to get a copy of the script that generates the .metalink files?
[16:33] <jcastro> is the kubuntu and kubuntu-kde4 seperate still?
[16:35] <davmor2> jcastro: no one in the same
[16:36] <jcastro> ok that's what I thought
[16:36] <jcastro> they are still listed seperately in the tracker
[16:37] <jcastro> I am assuming that everyone who was testing kubuntu-kde4 in the past would just move over to testing "kubuntu"
[16:37] <davmor2> jcastro: that might be for hardy point releases
[16:37]  * jcastro nods
[16:38] <davmor2> jcastro: everyone who tested Kubuntu last time can test it again :)
[17:13] <gerr2> Hi
[17:13] <gerr2> I have a new machine with a quad amd chip but have installed the new  version but grub reports Error 15 file not found, should I use the 64  bit version ?
[17:15] <stgraber> ubuntu i386 done
[17:15] <persia> gerr2: From what media did you install that?  Error 15 typically means a missing kernel, and *really* oughtn't happen on the beta media.
[17:15] <stgraber> *ubuntu server
[17:18] <davmor2> stgraber: did you get a new interweb line ;)
[17:18] <MagicFab> jcastro, hey
[17:18] <MagicFab> I don't see the beta at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/intrepid/ - using nightlies ok ?
[17:18] <MagicFab> (just making sure)
[17:19] <davmor2> MagicFab: yes that's the idea we are pre testing beta for bugs :)
[17:19] <jcastro> MagicFab: I always just grab the iso from the tracker link to be sure.
[17:21] <MagicFab> I figured, haven't participated formally in testing before
[17:21] <MagicFab> tx
[17:22] <MagicFab> perhaps a quick note about that in future announcement would help us compulsive email forwarders :)
[17:24] <gerr2> persia: I have just rebuilt a machine and put two old disks in it from an old machine, strange thing is that the system is now picking up the other old disk instead of the new one. To clarify I have 2 * 320 plus 1 * 160 disks, the 320s have both got 8.04.1 on them and after the 8.10 install grub does not show the new 320 only the old one. 8.10 is there but gives the error
[17:25] <persia> gerr2: Odd.  Hack workaround is to make sure you have a kernel on 8.10, and reconfigure grub.
[17:25] <gerr2> i should add the old machine was an i386
[17:31] <MagicFab> jcastro, I was aiming at testing DVD ISOs, but I only see them covered at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases
[17:31] <gerr2> Persia: The amd 64 iso has just finished downloading so I will install that to see if the new disk is then available, or should I wait....
[17:32] <jcastro> MagicFab: you'll have to ask one of the QA guys, I am also only a participant. :D
[17:33] <persia> gerr2: Installing off a new daily will probably fix your error 15 issue.  If it doesn't , we definitely want to know.
[17:33] <MagicFab> heno - I was aiming at testing DVD ISOs, but I only see them covered at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases
[17:33] <persia> MagicFab: What do you need for testing beyond that?
[17:34] <gerr2> persia: ok I will try it, and report back in 30 mins
[17:34] <MagicFab> persia, that is a report. I am looking for a  way to submit DVD testing results.
[17:36] <MagicFab> persia, it seems at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ there would have to be entries for "Ubuntu DVD  (20080930.4)" for both i386 and amd64
[17:36] <persia> MagicFab: Hmm.  Apparently not targeted for beta for some reason.
[17:37] <MagicFab> persia, the announcement reads "If you have [...] the bandwidth and media to perform DVD testing, please help out as these are often the last images to be fully tested."
[17:38] <MagicFab> perhaps just forgot about it ?
[17:38] <davmor2> slangasek:  you around?
[17:38] <persia> MagicFab: Email announcements and isotracker DB state are not automatically synchronised.  This needs an isotracker admin.
[17:41] <davmor2> MagicFab: should be on the tracker now dude
[17:44] <afflux> hmm. shouldn't virtualbox OSE support amd64 as guest now?
[17:45] <persia> afflux: So it was reported.
[17:46] <afflux> hmm. does not seem to work for me.
[17:48] <hoonteke> okay, having a fail moment.  Totally can't find where to download the alpha and beta isos for intrepid.  pointer, anyone?
[17:50] <davmor2> hoontek: just to your left
[17:50] <davmor2> seriously though
[17:52] <davmor2> goto the tracker http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker click on the test you wish to perform and then click on the disc with the down arrow for info on where to get it :)
[17:53] <hoonteke> davmor2: brilliant.  thanks for that.
[17:58] <gerr2> Hi
[17:59] <gerr2> Just installed the AMD64 version but grub still comes up with error 15 file not found. Any ideas
[18:00] <heno> MagicFab: thanks for testing DVDs - let me know if you need anything else
[18:03] <MagicFab> davmor2, heno: we got dvd testing! tx.
[18:03] <davmor2> MagicFab: Np's
[18:03] <hoonteke> I forgot with whom I was talking about 2-3 weeks ago ... what's the status on automated tests for some of these use cases?
[18:04] <hoonteke> Seems like a lot of this testing could be outsourced, and leave folks to handle higher level problems ...
[18:04] <davmor2> gerr2: not sure what to say I've installed AMD 64 now about 10 time and had no issues
[18:05] <heno> hoonteke: ara would know the latest status on that
[18:05] <heno> see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Automation/Desktop
[18:05] <hoonteke> heno: k, thankx
[18:06] <heno> some tests are being run with output going here http://people.ubuntu.com/~ara/ldtp/test_results/
[18:06] <heno> it's early days though
[18:07] <heno> we're running a testing day on monday where we'll focus on automating update-manager
[18:09] <hoonteke> cool
[18:09] <gerr2> davmor2: I think I will have to format the disk and start again
[18:10] <hoonteke> yaey!  looking at some of those times to open programs ... seems a long time.  6+ seconds to open the calculator first time?
[18:10] <hoonteke> but cool that the test harness seems to be in place
[18:10] <hoonteke> thanks for the pointers heno.
[18:29] <heno> interesting. I guess there are lots of timeouts in the test system - waiting in a loop for the window to appear, etc.
[18:36] <slangasek> tgm4883_laptop: not trivially; the metalink file generation is derived from code from the Canonical webmaster, there's no blanket permission to release that code
[18:36] <slangasek> davmor2: ribbit
[18:46] <stgraber> davmor2: nope but I'm at work, internet is fast here :)
[18:49] <davmor2> slangasek: it's okay it got sorted :)
[18:49] <davmor2> stgraber: sweet :)
[18:49] <tgm4883_laptop> slangasek, ok, thanks, I see what I can do
[18:52] <afflux> for the record: virtualbox ose does support 64bit guests, if the 64bit host system supports VT-x/AMD-V
[18:55] <gerr1> hi
[18:57] <gerr1> Just reinstalled i386 but still no joy on the grub front, I can look at all the disks but can only boot from the old i386 one. should I disconnect the 2 old disks to see if the new one appears?
[18:57] <afflux> testing ubuntu alternate amd64 - entire disk w/ encryption now.
[18:59] <slangasek> xubuntu desktop images updated, to correct a stale livefs
[19:00] <slangasek> kubuntu desktop images will also be updated shortly
[19:00] <cr3> slangasek: ping, should dhcp work during the installation of recent images running on intel gigabit hardware?
[19:00] <slangasek> cr3: nope
[19:00] <slangasek> cr3: since the ethernet driver isn't included...
[19:01] <slangasek> cr3: that's going to be in the errata for the beta unfortunately, we couldn't converge on a kernel fix soon enough to not disrupt the beta timeline
[19:02] <cr3> slangasek: what about including the pci id in another driver?
[19:02] <slangasek> cr3: there's no reasonable solution that doesn't involve revving the kernel, and we missed the window for that
[19:02] <slangasek> so it's errata for beta, fixed in the first daily after
[19:23] <slangasek> revised kubuntu desktop images posted
[19:35] <slangasek> anyone working on Kubuntu DVD testing yet?
[19:35] <slangasek> if not, it might be worth rerolling those to get OOo up-to-date
[19:36] <slangasek> stgraber: the CSS on the tracker is still being unkind to me :(
[19:39]  * davmor2 MAhahaha
[19:40] <davmor2> slangasek: fancy rerolling kubuntu while I was working on it ;0
[19:40] <davmor2> :)
[19:40] <davmor2> even
[19:41] <slangasek> the livefs should've been updated before rolling it at all; doesn't make much sense to release a kubuntu beta with half the kde packages out-of-date...
[19:43] <davmor2> slangasek: fortunately I'm only working on wubi and it's installer isn't really that dependant on the livefs :)  so I'll do the real tests tomorrow when I get some bandwidth back :)
[19:55] <davmor2> right lost the will to live with my internet connection now so I'm calling it a day see you tomorrow guys :)
[19:56] <heno> see you davmor2, rest well!
[21:09] <slangasek> heno: you may want to hold off on your kubuntu DVD tests, I'm finishing up a reroll now to get OOo current on there
[21:12] <heno> slangasek: yep, I've switched to Ubuntu DVDs, thanks
[21:32]  * slangasek hmms at bug #276317
[21:32] <slangasek> how does one select edubuntu for install from netboot?  Is it presented as a task?
[21:39] <slangasek> heno: kubuntu DVDs are posted; hopefully an easy rsync
[21:40] <heno> slangasek: thanks, resyncing
[21:44] <heno> unfortunately my BW sucks now :(
[22:13] <slangasek> hmm, the test result on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/1972/26 seems bogus, this is effectively a test of usb-creator rather than of the alternate ISO
[22:41] <heno> yay, one kubuntu DVD downloaded!
[22:44] <Tomcat_> I have an i386 laptop available for testing tomorrow. Should I do Alternate, DVD, Desktop or Server?
[22:44] <Tomcat_> I guess DVD is the least tested?
[22:45] <Tomcat_> (Beta candidate ISO testing btw, in case that's not clear :))
[22:47] <slangasek> DVD is definitely the one that needs the most attention from those who can muster it
[22:48] <Tomcat_> Good. Not sure if I have an RW somewhere, but DVD-Rs are quite cheap.
[22:49] <slangasek> xubuntu desktop also being re-rolled, xubuntu devs requested a change to the midori browser pre-beta
[23:04] <stgraber> ok, what should I test considering that I will only be able to test one CD due to slow internet ? (that excludes DVD)
[23:06] <heno> stgraber: got 64bit?
[23:07] <sbeattie> did cups-pdf get dropped from the default install?
[23:07] <heno> stgraber: server 64 bit might be good
[23:07] <stgraber> heno: sure, I do kvm testing and the host is 64bit.
[23:07] <stgraber> downloading it
[23:12] <slangasek> well, server gets plenty of testing without even trying :/
[23:13] <slangasek> xubuntu alternate amd64 might be helpful
[23:14] <heno> slangasek: you mean automated tests on in the server community?
[23:14] <slangasek> yeah
[23:15] <heno> s/on/or/
[23:15]  * persia suggests "by"
[23:16] <gerr1> hi
[23:16] <heno> Hi gerr1!
[23:17] <heno> here to help with testing?
[23:19] <gerr1> for persia and daver I appeared to have fixed my sata disk problem but I am not sure how. I rebooted for xxxx time but noted that disk 1 and 3 were both masters! I changed the plug and rebooted, re installed 8.10 and now grub 1.5 works and I can boot from any drive.
[23:20] <slangasek> heno: oh, that's an "or"? :)  well, I think they're semi-automated tests that soren drives
[23:20] <persia> gerr1: Good to hear: I was afraid you had discovered an issue with an image.  Would you mind looking at the tracker, and updating the appropriate test case for your install?
[23:20] <heno> slangasek: right. I'm a bit weary of relying just on those
[23:21] <gerr1> will do
[23:21] <heno> (I know the weaknesses of automated testing fairly well now ...)
[23:21] <persia> Well, for -server, it's probably safer, just because there's little visual interaction to test that isn't also covered by all the other alternate CD install tests.
[23:21] <persia> (but yes, not entirely safe)
[23:21] <slangasek> heno: right, that's fair
[23:25] <slangasek> xubuntu desktop refreshed
[23:27] <slangasek> image set should all be finalized for beta then, barring any failures that require a respin
[23:28] <persia> Are we not still waiting for the ubuntustudio disks to rebuild for -menu?  I hadn't heard that was complete yet.
[23:29] <slangasek> ah; those are updated and posted to the tracker, I just failed to mention it here
[23:29] <persia> OK.  We'll get right on them then :)
[23:30] <slangasek> you could also subscribe to them on the tracker :)
[23:30]  * persia should probably do that
[23:42]  * persia can't solve the captchas on the isotracker login page, and appreciates the option of doing simple math.
[23:58] <heno> the kubuntu i386 dvd seems to have installed ok
[23:59] <heno> oooh, and the amd64 sync is done :)


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[09:08] <ubptgbot> s. … -> Does someone have the same problem? … Any Ideas to fix that? Flight mode on/off, Restart or shut down did not help.  … Thanks!
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 @Raphael [Hello guys, … sorry for the long message. … I have two problems with my OnePlus One …], Hmm maybe you microphone is dirty? I have an OPO as daily since years, never had this issue. 2) If you are abroad it could be that the carrier settings are just messed up. Delete all APN settings in system settings and see if that helps. Norm
[11:45] <ubptgbot> ally the SIM card can autoconfigure the stuff.
 @Raphael [Hello guys, … sorry for the long message. … I have two problems with my OnePlus One …], I've bought 2 used OPOs because the microphone was bad on the first one. It looks like it is broken. If i need the Phone i will exchange it. The second one is my wifes daily driver. This one is working fine.
[13:44] <ubptgbot> <Federica Galli> Fwd from Federica Galli: Question : I would like to try to install anbox, but if i don’t like it can i uninstall it and how?
 You will have to flash again with UBports Installer, without wipe option to conserve your datas.
 [Edit] You will have to flash again with UBports Installer, without wipe option to conserve your personal datas.
[14:13] <ubptgbot> <Federica Galli> @libremax [You will have to flash again with UBports Installer, without wipe option to cons …], yeah... i was afraid of that. thx 🙏
[14:58] <ubptgbot> <Federica Galli> Does anyone know if there is a Signal app for UT?
[14:58] <ubptgbot> <Federica Galli> I though there was one long ago but I cannot find it.....
 axolotl
[15:02] <ubptgbot> <Federica Galli> @dohbee [axolotl], ah yes! thanks again 😁
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 @Ramasai [UBports GSI brings Ubuntu Touch to any Project Treble-supported Android device … h …], this looks very cool!
 Hi Guis I've a issue on the nexus 5 on OAT 12. When I'm plug the headset the speaker level is lower. That's OK. But when I unplug the headset again the level still remains very low. Anyone who knows this issue. Only after restarting the speaker volume turns normal.
 UBPorts is GREAT! It's been 147 hours since last charge and it's still at 44%
 (Photo, 1440x2560) https://irc.ubports.com/0CMPj3NK.png
[16:50] <ubptgbot> Matthias69 was added by: Matthias69
 Before I have to check endless Devices: what is the biggest phone that is supported?
 in terms of screen size?
 Yes
 well... in the light of convergence I'd guess you should be prepared to anything...
 Technically any device that supports GSI roms supports UBPorts
 @Rcmaehl [Technically any device that supports GSI roms supports UBPorts], But not well yet, and not with update support. It's better to go off of more mature devices at devices.ubuntu-touch.io
 The OnePlus One is rather large I suppose. The PinePhone is 6" diagonal, and it is a 1:2 ratio display
 oh, this is from a user point of view, not from a developer point of view... sorry. ignore my earlier reply
 I'm using a 6.9 inch phone and a 7.2. I could maybe go with something smaller like 6.5-6.7 but anything less is just too small as a main device.
 @UniversalSuperBox [But not well yet, and not with update support. It's better to go off of more mat …], Nash supports it great. Only bug not being able to use both wifi and data at the same time
 But then again Erfan is the LOS dev for that device so it has a bit of a headstart
 @Matthias69 [I'm using a 6.9 inch phone and a 7.2. I could maybe go with something smaller li …], i have a laptop that is smaller…
 @Rcmaehl [Nash supports it great. Only bug not being able to use both wifi and data at the …], and it's not official support, as there's no system-image updating support and you can't install it with ubports-installer; also the GSI still doesn't mitigate the need to build patched kernels for running Ubuntu Touch
 @Rcmaehl [Nash supports it great. Only bug not being able to use both wifi and data at the …], it's already fixed
 @dohbee [i have a laptop that is smaller…], Well, main device means only device actually.  Thats why the Phone needs a Big screen.
 @Rcmaehl [UBPorts is GREAT! It's been 147 hours since last charge and it's still at 44%], what device? Ut can have great idle battery depending on the device
 @Matthias69 [Before I have to check endless Devices: what is the biggest phone that is suppor …], Meizu Pro 5 or upcoming Volla Phone
 @TotalSonic [Meizu Pro 5 or upcoming Volla Phone], or a massive galaxy note, i guess, if one wants to use the new GSI stuff
 but of course, not officially supported yet, so a bit of a pain to install
 galaxy note?
 @Matthias69 [Well, main device means only device actually.  How do you install vim on the ubports? I tried "apt install vim" in the terminal but that does not work.
 @no_gravity [Good Evening! How do you install vim on the ubports? I tried "apt install vim" i …], apt is not supported in the main system. UT is not a traditional linux distro. libertine is the supported method of creating a container for installing and using legacy and CLI apps on UT
[17:53] <no_gravity> ubptgbot: "legacy"?
 @no_gravity [ubptgbot: "legacy"?], i'm not a bot, the bot is a bridge; legacy as in x11 apps which are not developed to work under confinement nor with varying device and screen types or input devices in a responsive manner
[17:58] <no_gravity> ubptgbot: Bridge to what? vim is not an x11 app.
 no, vim is a CLI app
 bridge to telegram
 https://t.me/ubports
 @dohbee [i'm not a bot, the bot is a bridge; legacy as in x11 apps which are not develope …], you sure your not a bot? I dont think Ive ever seen you not in the chats for more than 30 minutes
[17:59] <no_gravity> ubptgbot: So why can't one just install vim on the terminal?
 @no_gravity [ubptgbot: So why can't one just install vim on the terminal?], the rootfs is read-only for multiple reasons. as i said, UT is not a traditional linux distro. it's built for the needs of phones and running on top of things like android HAL.
 though i think vim is already installed anyway (though maybe only the tiny package or such)
[18:01] <no_gravity> ubptgbot: When I type vim I get "bash: vim: command not found".
 ok
 I'm not immediately seeing a link to IRC in google. Is UBports on freenode?
 @Rcmaehl [I'm not immediately seeing a link to IRC in google. Is UBports on freenode?], yes
[18:03] <no_gravity> I tried "nano" and that is there. Now how do I exit nano :)
 switch the command toolbar in terminal app to the one for nano
[18:05] <ubptgbot> <Federica Galli> @Matthias69 [Before I have to check endless Devices: what is the biggest phone that is suppor …], oneplus 1 and oneplus 3 i think.
 @no_gravity [ubptgbot: When I type vim I get "bash: vim: command not found".], did you try 'vi'
 @no_gravity [ubptgbot: When I type vim I get "bash: vim: command not found".], Try 'vi' instead of 'vim'
[18:25] <DonkeyHotei> no_gravity: ctrl-x i think
[18:32] <ubptgbot> Stan stan was added by: Stan stan
[18:32] <ubptgbot> <Stan stan> hello
[18:33] <ubptgbot> <Stan stan> may i ask please
[18:33] <ubptgbot> <Stan stan> i have a oneplus 3t and all the calls during call volume is very very very low
[18:33] <ubptgbot> <Stan stan> is the phone i got damaged or something software relarted
[18:39] <ubptgbot> <Stan stan> 😅
 Try to set volume with uvolman from open store
[18:48] <ubptgbot> <Stan stan> yeah it looks like there is no way to increase it from the settings will try that
[18:49] <ubptgbot> <Stan stan> is there away to do it without installing an app
[18:49] <ubptgbot> <Stan stan> from terminal or system settings
 the volume is probably already at 100%
 there is some issue with that device i think
[18:51] <ubptgbot> Marcus was added by: Marcus
 (not yours specifically, the op3/3t in general)
[18:52] <ubptgbot> <Stan stan> is there any work around that @dohbee
 i don't know
[18:52] <ubptgbot> <Stan stan> may i ask you please if you know who to tag here to seek help
 there is for example https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/1402
[18:52] <gitbot> ubports issue 1402 in ubuntu-touch "volume control has no effect in calls" [Device: Oneplus3, Needs Confirmation, Open]
 @Stan stan [may i ask you please if you know who to tag here to seek help], probably better to ask whomever maintains the port in https://t.me/ubports_porting
[18:54] <ubptgbot> <Stan stan> thanks @dohbee
 @dohbee [http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/introduction.html], Any commit regarding fix ? … When i tap power button instead of screen of it always shows power menu
 @dohbee [http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/introduction.html], [Edit] Any fix commit regarding this  ? … When i tap power button instead of screen of it always shows power menu
 @Kelvin97 [Any fix commit regarding this  ? … When i tap power button instead of screen of it …], why are you asking me? i'm not porting your device. ask in https://t.me/UBports_porting
 @dohbee [why are you asking me? i'm not porting your device. ask in https://t.me/UBports_ …], Ok
 ok, I just received a PinePhone, but don't seem to have success pulling up the camera on it.
[20:07] <ubptgbot> <Dylan Gundberg> Camera is not currently working on pine phone
 @Condoulo [ok, I just received a PinePhone, but don't seem to have success pulling up the c …], please see the pinned message in this group
 @dohbee [please see the pinned message in this group], Not seeing anything about the camera in that post. 🤔
 oh. hmm, i guess that post doesn't include the link to the gitlab issues page for pinephone
[20:16] <ubptgbot> Günter was added by: Günter
 Actually camera and vibrator don't work on ubports
 @Condoulo
 Camera doesn't work at all on all OSs
 Yikes.
[20:45] <rcmaehl> Hi Tyler
 @ScardracS [Actually camera and vibrator don't work on ubports], What this is not true
 YOu mean on Pinephone? ok
 Yea, because I just got a PinePhone today.
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/f2uvy0l9.png
 (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc.ubports.com/DtYmvf0M.png
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 (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/2DZWJ1lX.png
 (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc.ubports.com/rwTHF5gm.png
 (Photo, 504x672) https://irc.ubports.com/fU0RnByd.png
 (Photo, 504x672) https://irc.ubports.com/dK4o4m1F.png
 yes, it's a developer phone, not a consumer-ready phone
 @Flohack [YOu mean on Pinephone? ok], Yeah I mean pinephone
 We'll get there
 Good to know. :) Was just wondering the status.
 Looks decently built
 @dohbee [please see the pinned message in this group], How can I display the pinned message in Teleports?
 Fwd from UniversalSuperBox: Having trouble with your PinePhone UBports CE? Check out our Frequent Problems thread to see if there is a resolution already! https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=10130
 It is working towards being a phone for adventurous consumers
 I'm trying to remember, what tool do you guys use to create custom webapp shortcuts?
 I tried Webber but it doesn't actually create the shortcut.
 @Condoulo [I tried Webber but it doesn't actually create the shortcut.], Webber works very well in my use of it - but Webapp Creator also can work well too https://open-store.io/app/webapp-creator.jujuyeh
 I actually really love Webber's interface, but it's not actually creating the shortcuts.
 @Condoulo [I actually really love Webber's interface, but it's not actually creating the sh …], That's strange - it does it over here - Meizu Pro 5 rc channel
 Weird, I'm not seeing Webapp-Creator in the store. =/
 @Condoulo [I actually really love Webber's interface, but it's not actually creating the sh …], i think there's a problem with content-hub on pinephone currently, which is likely causing the issue where you can't save it
 @dohbee [i think there's a problem with content-hub on pinephone currently, which is like …], Ah.
 @Condoulo [Weird, I'm not seeing Webapp-Creator in the store. =/], Hmmm - I guess PinePhone needs arm64 apps and that Webapp Creator only has armhf available? Not quite sure.
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[23:04] <ubptgbot> <Victor Leser> I have some old but very solid Panasonic and Getac rugged  tablets currently running Microsoft Windows 10.  Is it possible to replace Windows 10 with Ubuntu Touch on these machines, or dual-boot them?  I have replaced the Windows on some older laptops with Ubuntu, but am not confident even where to look for instructions.  I do not wa
[23:04] <ubptgbot> nt to try to do something which is not feasible.