[00:02] <ubuntu_> hi...new to this... and to linux
[00:02] <ubuntu_> anybody here?
[00:03] <k1l> ubuntu_: yep. a lot of users in here. :)
[00:03] <dsnyders> Hi ubuntu_, Do you have a question?
[00:03] <ubuntu_> yeah... how do i see what users are in?
[00:04] <dsnyders> ubuntu_: The who command will tell you who is logged in.
[00:05] <ubuntu_> thanks... just found another way, lol
[00:05] <ZZRMike> I just picked up a UHD display, and obviously the native resolution makes everything impossible to read. How do I change the dpi in KDE?
[00:05] <wachpwnski1> Anyone know how I can use a keyfile on a usb stick to unencrypt a full drive encryption on boot?
[00:05] <dsnyders> ubuntu_: What way was that?
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntu_: or use the 'last' command
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> ZZRMike: https://blogs.kde.org/2008/04/29/how-change-x11-dpi-under-kubuntu
[00:07] <ubuntu_> dsnyders: sorry.... checking this whole thing out...
[00:08] <ubuntu_> as I said... new to Linux... not very impressed...
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> ZZRMike: https://community.kde.org/KDE/High-dpi_issues
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_: not impressed with what?
[00:10] <ubuntu_> with linux
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_: in what way?
[00:10] <ubuntu_> fair enough, this is the ubuntu desktop, so...
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntu_: same question still stands...
[00:11] <ubuntu_> filing system to atsrt with... confusing
[00:12] <ubuntu_> *to start with
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_: well, outside of your docs and such, you shouldn't care as a user
[00:12] <CyL> Hi, in Xubuntu 14.04 I have the package python-tk installed, but trying to import tkinter from the interactive interpreter, yelds me an error saying python could'nt find any module named tkinter
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_: the storage makes sense as the data falls jnto 4 distict categories
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntu_: rather than Windows where anyfile can be put anywhere in the filesytem by users.  Total chaos
[00:13] <ubuntu_> Sorry, Action... don't know what type of users you are used to but I'm used to have full control of my machines and know exactly and quickly where whatever is...
[00:14] <ubuntu_> WEith this ubuntu thing, that's a challenge
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_: but what are you doing outside of your documents?
[00:14] <ubuntu_> then again, new thing to me, so... not making any judgments
[00:14] <ubuntu_> what a hec do you think a compurter is for? documents only?
[00:15] <ubuntu_> lol
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_: what are you doing on the system that means you need access outside of your home?
[00:15] <k1l> ubuntu_: well. you need to learn a lot if you want to "control" the whole system. linux is not windows. if you dont want to learn either stay at windows or reduce the demanding on controlling everything on the first day
[00:16] <it_> alguem portugues aqui
[00:16] <k1l> ubuntu_: ubuntu is used in a lot of different professional enviroments. its not just a fun toy.
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> !pt | it_
[00:17] <ubuntu_> to start with, my home isn't usually where this places it, and to have to constantly get to type a dang command to have full admin rights to do whatever i need to do, isn't impressing at all... annoying at the least, scrappable to the worst
[00:17] <ubuntu_> lol
[00:17] <it_> #ubuntu/pt
[00:17] <ubuntu_> lol... just typed reply and apparently
[00:17] <ubuntu_> was too long
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_: not really, replies can be lots of text
[00:18] <k1l> ubuntu_: if you constantly need root rights, what are you doing?
[00:18] <ubuntu_> yup... just noticed.... had to scroll up to see it
[00:18] <k1l> ubuntu_: even windows scratched that "you need to be admin all the time" nonsense.
[00:18] <it_> #ubuntu-pt
[00:18] <CyL> Hi, in Xubuntu 14.04 I have the package python-tk installed, but trying to import tkinter from the interactive interpreter, yelds me an error saying python could'nt find any module named tkinter
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntu_: needing to type a command for admin rights means that rogue commands cannot run wild on your system. Unlike Windows where idiots log in as Administrators to do daily tasks and wonder why they get issues
[00:19] <CyL> it_: Digite /join #ubuntu-br na linha de entrada de texto
[00:19] <ubuntu_> yeah... but only if you don't bother getting rid off it... which is as easy nas sneezing lol
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntu_: what users do needs user access, so why have more all the time? It makes no sense
[00:20] <ubuntu_> true
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntu_: its a better user model
[00:20] <k1l> ubuntu_: ok, so do you have any actual support issue? else you could switch to #ubuntu-offtopic for general ramblings
[00:20] <ubuntu_> doesn't it, Action?
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntu_: doesnt what?
[00:20] <CyL> Hi, in Xubuntu 14.04 I have the package python-tk installed, but trying to import tkinter from the interactive interpreter, yelds me an error saying python could'nt find any module named tkinter
[00:20] <ubuntu_> Sounds a bit like denying the user the right to have full control of their machine
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntu_: if you press TAB after you type 'action' it will autocomplete my nick
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntu_: they do, they can be in the sudo group which gives them access to use sudo when power is needed
[00:21] <k1l> ubuntu_: no. its a big security milestone not to be admin all the time. but again: if there is no actual issue please put that chtichat into #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:22] <kostkon> CyL, probably you need python3-tk
[00:22] <CyL> kostkon: Why I would need it (althought it is installed as well)?
[00:22] <ubuntu_> k1l... sorry... new here... is that for me and Actionparsnip?
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntu_: you can even control what commands users can run with sudo, so even if they have sudo access you can restrict them tona subset of commands if you like
[00:23] <kostkon> CyL, are you in a python3 or python2.x interpreter?
[00:23] <k1l> ubuntu_: we try to keep this channel clear for actual support issues.
[00:23] <ubuntu_> oopss... got it... sorry k1l
[00:23] <CyL> kostkon: python 2, but it looks like the prblem was with me, I wasn't importing it correctly, sorry, just managed to get it done
[00:23] <splergy> complete noob here, how do i cd into the root directory? trying to move a .theme file to ~/.irssi/
[00:23] <ubuntu_> thanks for the chat... see u around guys...
[00:23] <kostkon> CyL, what was the problem?
[00:24] <ubuntu_> have fun :)
[00:24] <tewn> i have an external goflex seagate hard drive i am trying to get to boot to.  the mbr is installed to the right hard drive however when i boot it enters grub2 rescue mode and doesn't find the right blk_id
[00:24] <k1l> splergy: ~/ is not in root directory. its in your home
[00:24] <k1l> splergy: "~/.irssi" means "/home/user/.irssi"
[00:24] <CyL> kostkon: I see everywhere you should do "import tkinter" when in fact, for some reason, it should be "import Tkinter", maybe python change something
[00:24] <splergy> okay thanks for the help
[00:24] <splergy> just looked like a root symbol to me lol
[00:25] <dsnyders> splergy: Note - the . in front of irssi means the file is hidden from normal commands.
[00:25] <Viking667> I've got a question about keyboard mappings.  I don't have one of those.
[00:25] <kostkon> CyL, according to this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7498658/importerror-when-importing-tkinter-in-python  you are correct
[00:25] <splergy> ah i was just gonna ask why i couldnt see it lol
[00:26] <Viking667> How do I get a picture of the normal layout instead of the Natural layout?
[00:26] <splergy> thanks
[00:26] <k1l> splergy: presss ctrl+h in filebrowser to see .folders and files
[00:26] <EriC^^> splergy: or ls -a if you're using a terminal
[00:27] <CyL> kostkon: Okay, thanks for your advice nevertheless
[00:27] <kostkon> CyL, np
[00:28] <Frank_Jameso> I may be using the wrong words when searching, is there any documentation on the services (i.e. sudo service ssh start), and how to turn processes into services?
[00:30] <splergy> thanks EriC^^
[00:31] <EriC^^> splergy: no problem :)
[00:39] <skinux> Is Thunderbird still the best E-Mail client?
[00:42] <bekks> skinux: Depends on your needs.
[00:45] <LemonSqueeze> is anyone here verse in clementine? I am having problems and error reports when trying to add remove thing from my ipod.... or is there another chat room i should hit up?
[00:48] <PCworker> On ubuntu 14.04, How do you uninstall a program that you installed using the terminal?
[00:49] <k1l> PCworker: sudo apt-get remove packagename
[00:49] <PCworker> k, gimme a minute....
[00:55] <PCworker> k11: it keeps telling me that it can't find package. This was a tar.bz2 file I downloaded.
[00:56] <k1l> PCworker: ok that is an info that is important.
[00:57] <k1l> PCworker: no it depends on what software that was and if there is a uninstall script available
[00:58] <PCworker> k11: ok. it came from the SecondLife Virtual Life website and it is used a their movie viewer. Let me look in the directory for some instruction.
[01:02] <NyanCat> Hi there, I want to install Ubuntu to a netbook. So far, it's the only distro with the right drivers included in the image to allow my HW to function correctly
[01:02] <NyanCat> I know there was UNR at one point, but do I just use the regular ubuntu 14.10 image now to install on a netbook/
[01:03] <k1l> NyanCat: UNR is deprecated long time now
[01:03] <enyc_> NyanCat: short answer yes, though are yo ufinding  14.04 LTS  doesn't work?
[01:03] <NyanCat> I'm not finding that it doesn't work
[01:03] <NyanCat> I'm just on the fence on what to install
[01:03] <NyanCat> lol
[01:04] <PCworker> Thanks k11, got it.
[01:04] <NyanCat> As best I can tell, the live environment works perfectly fine on the netbook
[01:04] <k1l> NyanCat: since netbooks are really low power with that atoms better see if lubuntu is ok for you
[01:04] <mtree> is it already on in Ubuntu? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B1Mb3sBIgAAwQB8.png:large
[01:04] <enyc> given you say netbook... i would mention   Mint 17.1 is a good *variant* of ubuntu, less onerous interface options (MATE especially), though cinnamon is nice,     based upon 14.04 LTS but chaning out the default-frontend , basically....   as k1l says  lubuntu can work too
[01:05] <k1l> mtree: what do you mean?
[01:05] <NyanCat> I've tried mint before
[01:05] <enyc> NyanCat: well what are the uncertainties then?
[01:05] <NyanCat> enyc: Well, if there were any major uncertainties, I'd say you got them there
[01:05] <scriptThis> Any idea why $ diff -u foo.txt bar.txt  would just do nothing? (and both files are present in current dir)
[01:05] <k1l> enyc: mint doesnt help. and if you mention mint you could tell that you can run the same desktops on ubuntu, too
[01:05] <NyanCat> I'll look at lubuntu
[01:06] <mtree> k1l: these thumbnails for every single bookmark
[01:06] <k1l> mtree: that is chrome specific and not ubuntu specific
[01:06] <zteam> Hi how can I force e2fsck to check my filesystem at reboot?
[01:07] <k1l> mtree: google will change the bookmark stuff on their services. have a search for that. i bet there are plugins for that already
[01:07] <k1l> !fsck
[01:07] <k1l> zteam: ^
[01:07] <NyanCat> enyc, call me picky, but I don't actually like LXDE
[01:07] <NyanCat> I assume that's why it's called Lubuntu
[01:08] <NyanCat> because it features LXDE?
[01:08] <SchrodingersScat> !lubuntu
[01:08] <k1l> NyanCat: yes. but besides lxde it got some modifications for low end and old hardware
[01:08] <SchrodingersScat> yes
[01:09] <k1l> NyanCat: so what is your issue at all? because we cant help you on your taste  of which desktop you like the most :)
[01:09] <zteam> k1l, Thanks but I'm already familiar with sudo touch /forcefsck, but the problem with that one seems to be that it only scan the disc if the device flag is dirty?
[01:09] <enyc> NyanCat: MATE is gnome-2-derived and seems ok on what older hardware i've tried on ...   in short you colud add to cyou confusion in a few days' time with 17.1 MATE and Cinnamon varieties... Hey why not try XFCE too =))
[01:10] <enyc> NyanCat: ultimately if they all 'work for you' it may not really matter much
[01:10] <k1l> enyc: enough of the mint advertising. you can run both desktops on ubuntu too. so no need for mint at all.
[01:10] <zteam> k1l, I want to check it no matter what the dirty flag says
[01:10] <NyanCat> k1l, I don't have any issues
[01:10] <enyc> k1l: oh indeed, but not (so) easily from live cd, though you can do that do vith apt-get and stuffs.
[01:10] <NyanCat> I'm just looking for opinions
[01:11] <NyanCat> :)
[01:11] <NyanCat> sorry if I came off as "I have an issue"
[01:11] <enyc> NyanCat: well try coming up with some more clearly defined requirements/experiences =)
[01:11] <NyanCat> enyc: Can Ubuntu make my coffee
[01:11] <NyanCat> if not
[01:11] <NyanCat> Then I'm going to mother Debian
[01:12] <k1l> NyanCat: ubuntu ships all big desktops. you just need to choose one.
[01:12] <zteam> k1l, any more suggestions besides booting from a live-usb and perform the check there?
[01:12] <enyc> NyanCat: i've never got along so well with Debian Wheezy's gnome-3 version, but the MATE packages now in wheezy-backports work well!
[01:12] <k1l> zteam: if /forcecheck is not good enough go with a live cd and make manual checks
[01:12] <NyanCat> enyc: I'm just joking actually, Debian images don't have the driver for my wireless nic
[01:13] <NyanCat> And I don't have any opportunities for wired connection here
[01:13] <enyc> NyanCat: there are 'firmware' boot images somewhere that may work for you ...
[01:14] <NyanCat> I'm going to try unity
[01:14] <NyanCat> even though I hate the heck out of it
[01:14] <enyc> NyanCat:   http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/7.7.0/multi-arch/iso-cd/   maybe
[01:14] <enyc> NyanCat: good luck =)
[01:14] <enyc> NyanCat: why do you hate the heck out of it?
[01:14] <NyanCat> enyc: I'm more used to GNOME2
[01:15] <NyanCat> I didn't really like GNOME3
[01:15] <enyc> NyanCat: metoo, and MATE is the derivative of GNOME2 and quite good
[01:15] <zteam> k1l, :-/ I was afraid of that... seems a little bit lame thought.... even Windows can perform a "real disc check" (not only check the dirty flag) at system reboot
[01:15] <enyc> NyanCat: AIUI  ubuntu 14.10  now includes MATE, and  its' available as a PPA on ubuntu 14.04 ...
[01:15] <k1l> zteam: sorry, i dont get what issue you got with /forcefsck
[01:16] <NyanCat> enyc: Right-o
[01:16] <zteam> k1l,  not to be rude or so....
[01:16] <NyanCat> Well, I'm going to play around with normal Ubuntu
[01:16] <k1l> there is a mate ubuntu 14.04 image
[01:16] <enyc> NyanCat: so you can find the right metapackage and then install it' and use it as an opiton on the login screen
[01:16] <NyanCat> going to try just a regular install first to see how it behaves
[01:16] <NyanCat> if I have to, i'll look at specialties
[01:16] <NyanCat> :)
[01:18] <zteam> k1l, from what I know a /forcefsck only perform a quick scan (i.e check the dirty flag of the filesystem) if that flag is clean it just skips the filesystemcheck
[01:19] <k1l> zteam: says who?
[01:21] <NyanCat> enyc / k1l: Thanks for the assistance none the less
[01:22] <zteam> k1l, I colud be wrong on that part of course but on my system it doesn't even scan the discs for more than a few seconds, a "real filesystem check" usually takes much longer than that (at least from my experience)
[01:22] <jmadero> hi all - I keep getting a stale handle error for nfs transferred - guidance appreciated
[01:22] <jmadero> digging through forums has been utterly unhelpful
[01:24] <k1l> zteam: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilesystemTroubleshooting  cant find any confirmation of your statement
[01:27] <NyanCat> enyc, I'll be back in a while, if you're still around I'll tell you how it worked out
[01:28] <NyanCat> Take care all, have a great evening!
[01:30] <Loshki> zteam: trying to fsck a root filesystem?
[01:32] <canada4663> hello - I am getting intermittent hangs on boot after upgrading to ubuntu 14.04
[01:33] <canada4663> it gets stuck at 'Starting enable remaining boot-time encrypted block devices' each time - though that entry says 'OK'....
[01:33] <zteam> k1l, well, I don't have a source for my statement as I already said this is what I'm assuming because the system boots as quickly as normal
[01:34] <zteam> Loshki, well on my homefolder more precisly :-)
[01:35] <zteam> k1l, I didn't mean to offend you or something, but booting from a live-usb just to check the filesystem seems pretty "old"
[01:35] <Loshki> zteam: please pastebin the output from df -h
[01:37] <Loshki> zteam: booting from a live-usb to check a root filesystem is S.O.P. Sorry if it's not "new" enough.
[01:37] <zteam> Loshki, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9035050/
[01:37] <k1l> zteam: i dont get why you want to get a 1 hour waiting time just to convince you your fs is fine?
[01:37] <Loshki> So you wanna fsck this drive: /dev/sda2          63G    28G    32G  47% /home
[01:38] <Loshki> drive -> partition
[01:38] <k1l> well, if its about the non root partition you can unmount it and fsck it if you want
[01:38] <k1l> "just be to be sure"
[01:39] <Loshki> zteam: Oh yeah, why do you feel the need to fsck it manually?
[01:39] <Hydrogenum> just reinstalled, and can't figure out how to enable sloppy (mouse) focus.  Where's that config?
[01:40] <zteam> k1l because I believe the filesystem is damaged, and I had my computer shut down due to a power outage, and now it behaves somewhat strange
[01:40] <Hydrogenum> gconf-editor shows /apps/metacity/general/focus_mode=sloppy but that doesn't seem to help
[01:40] <k1l> zteam: ah ok. so that is the real issue here.
[01:40] <k1l> zteam: what do you mean by "somewhat strange"?
[01:40] <xofamore> very annoying that thunar has no built-in search.
[01:41] <reisio> xofamore: you can give it one, it's extensible
[01:41] <xofamore> how do i do that?
[01:41] <k1l> zteam: remember that the filesystem (that is what fsck checks) can be just fine, but that data on it is broken. so a fsck doesnt magically heal everything
[01:41] <reisio> xofamore: catfish works nicely
[01:41] <zteam> k1l, well for example my caps lock led doesn't work properly on my main account
[01:41] <Loshki> zteam: please elaborate on "somewhat strange". Meanwhile, do what k1l said, unmount and fsck the thing already.
[01:41] <xofamore> reisio, thanks. will take a look at that.
[01:42] <reisio> xofamore: http://marksnotebook.com/ubuntu/how-add-built-search-thunar-using-catfish
[01:44] <zteam> k1l, yup, that's true, but sometimes fsck and checkdisk can fix many issues :-)
[01:44] <Loshki> zteam: so is fsck running yet?
[01:44] <xofamore> reisio, awesome. thanks.
[01:45] <zteam> Loshki, you mean I can unmount my /home partition while running the fsck command?
[01:45] <Loshki> zteam: also, was it a clean power outage, or a lumpy, bumpy, spikey outage
[01:45] <morhad> ubuntu 14.4 have any method to switch kbd layout between 2 languages with one kbd combination and if I want to switch to 3rd language, for this case I will use anothe combination..?
[01:46] <zteam> Loshki, or are we talking about booting from the live-usb?
[01:47] <Loshki> zteam: you must unmount /home before you can run fsck on it. To do so, you probably need to login as root from a text console. This is one of those occasionans when it helps to have a root password, which is against the rules. This is why it's actually easier to use the live-usb...
[01:48] <zteam> Loshki, I get what you are saying man, I just can't belive there is no smoother way to check my discs :-)
[01:48] <k1l> no need for that
[01:49] <Loshki> k1l: go on...
[01:49] <k1l> just log out, then switch to tty, login as user, sudo -i for rootshell, unmount /Home, do checks, remount, logout, get to lightdm again, login
[01:50] <k1l> but i still think that all is just wasting time while the real issue is somewhere else.
[01:50] <zteam> Loshki, I mean why would you need a live-usb for checking the /root (or any essential filesystem for that matter)
[01:50] <Loshki> zteam: you pop in a disk, click three or four things, wait 5 minutes, and you have a fully functioning linux system. How much smoother does it get?
[01:51] <KEEm> EriC^^ ?
[01:51] <Loshki> k1l: "login as user" <-- won't this mount /home, so you can't fsck it?
[01:51] <Loshki> k1l: "login as user" <-- won't this mount /home, so you can't even unmount it?
[01:52] <k1l> should work
[01:52] <EriC^^> KEEm: hey, what's up
[01:52] <KEEm> hey Eric good to see you :)
[01:52] <Loshki> k1l: I disagree, won't work.
[01:52] <KEEm> eric^^: im using Test disk now
[01:52] <k1l> zteam: because you will break the journaling that way
[01:52] <EriC^^> KEEm: ok, cool
[01:53] <zteam> Loshi, not to complain but pretty much smoother, if you are running Windows for example chkdsk c: /R and it performs a full filesystem clean for you once you reboot
[01:53] <EriC^^> KEEm: anything come up in the quick search?
[01:53] <KEEm> eric^^: but it keeps adding more Estimated time to completion  time
[01:53] <EriC^^> KEEm: let it run for 30secs or so only
[01:53] <EriC^^> KEEm: then try the deep search if it doesn't find anything
[01:53] <KEEm> eric^^: listen i found the partition and some files on the drive
[01:54] <k1l> zteam: pretty smooth from linux not needing to defrag all the time :)
[01:54] <EriC^^> KEEm: ok, you want to recover the files only?
[01:54] <KEEm> i allreaddy did
[01:54] <KEEm> :D
[01:54] <Loshki> zteam: Except that your filesystems are clean, and I will be surprised if forcing an fsck finds anything. Please answer my question about the nature of the outage.
[01:54] <k1l> zteam: and again: we are still wasting time for a idea you didnt prove so far.
[01:54] <KEEm> but there are only 240 file recovered eric^^
[01:55] <zteam> Loshki, no need for any live-usb there, so in my opinion that is definetly smoother, I'm just a little bit surprised than Linux don't provide a similair way
[01:55] <k1l> zteam: it does!
[01:55] <Loshki> "I'll do anything to fix my filesystem except boot live-usb and run fsck". Is that where we are?
[01:56] <Hydrogenum> nm, figured it out
[01:56] <k1l> zteam: we are still at the point that you want to blame forcefsck for your issues but we  dont even know what the issue is.
[01:56] <EriC^^> KEEm: how many files were there?
[01:56] <KEEm> idk 600gb out of 1000
[01:57] <Loshki> k1l: please try your own recipe and report if you are able to unmount /home.
[01:57] <KEEm> eric^^:  ^
[01:57] <k1l> zteam: so either you go and fsck the partitions now or we dig into the issues and solve that. but wasting time saying windows is all better will not help you or us.
[01:57] <KEEm> so maybe 2000/5000 eric^^
[01:57] <EriC^^> KEEm: try the deep search maybe
[01:57] <zteam> Loshki, nope, where at "I'm just suprised that there doesn't seem to be a way to force a filesystem check at reboot"
[01:57] <k1l> Loshki: sorry, cant test it right now, since i am compiling and cant logout now
[01:57] <EriC^^> maybe it's not picking up the whole partition or something
[01:58] <k1l> zteam: [citation needed]
[01:58] <KEEm> ok  eric^^
[01:58] <dvsone> Hello
[01:58] <Loshki> zteam: I agree with k1l. In your place, I'd be worried about the hardware. I'd run a memtest overnight, then check the disk SMART data. Maybe try a different keyboard.
[01:58] <NyanCat> enyc: Hey there, just checking in... So far, so good!
[01:59] <k1l> Loshki: if you tested it and it doesnt work: ok, sorry for that.
[01:59] <zteam> k1l, well I could be wrong about it, and then I apologize,  but if /forcefsck is performing a full filesystem check how comes my system boot as fast as without /forcefsck then?
[02:00] <k1l> zteam: we are still on the "ifs". so please perform a fsck you think is checking enough and see if it reports any errors.
[02:00] <zteam> Loshki,, the keyboard is fine, and caps lock works very fine in the guest account for example
[02:01] <KEEm> eric^^: how sould i run a deep search, to find the partition or the file (< if so how)
[02:01] <k1l> zteam: what if it got a counter for idiotic forcefsck and just skips it? prove that ;p
[02:01] <EriC^^> KEEm: after quick search press enter
[02:01] <Loshki> k1l: No, but I've hunted down processes which have files open on mounted filesystems often enough that I know you can't unmount a partition you have open files on.
[02:02] <EriC^^> to stop it, then it should say deep search, highlight it and press enter
[02:02] <k1l> zteam: does dmesg or syslog report any issue? does .xsession-errors ?
[02:02] <KEEm> eric^^: after quick search for partition right?
[02:02] <canada4663> ?
[02:03] <Loshki> ztane: because your filesystem is marked clean, so fsck says "no need to check this". It's rarely wrong.
[02:03] <zteam> k1l, I dont know how many times I said it now I could be wrong but obviusly it has taken much more time, then I did run e2fsck from a live-usb before
[02:03] <k1l> Loshki: the desktop is stopped and the tty should not demand that much services. and when you sudo -i you get a rootshell anyway
[02:03] <janardan> #openstack
[02:03] <k1l> zteam: still running in circles here.
[02:03] <EriC^^> KEEm: yeah
[02:04] <Loshki> k1l: you do, but that rootshell is running inside a user shell, which almost invariably has files open on /home, preventing you from unmounting it.
[02:05] <zteam> k1l, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9035419/
[02:06] <zteam> k1l, well time to sleep for me anyway.... :-)
[02:06] <k1l> zteam: talking about the fat partition sdc1
[02:07] <zteam> k1l, yup, but that's just my usb-pendrive
[02:08] <zteam> k1l, I'm to tired to continue to investigaste the problem right now the clock is 03:08 AM here
[02:09] <k1l> that is not a fsck error at all.
[02:09] <KEEm> eric^^: after quick search for partition right
[02:09] <KEEm> eric^^: ups
[02:09] <EriC^^> KEEm: yes
[02:09] <KEEm> eric^^: deep searching now :)
[02:09] <EriC^^> KEEm: cool :)
[02:09] <zteam> k1l, nope, who said that?
[02:10] <zteam> :-)
[02:10] <KEEm> EriC^^ do you like psytrance?
[02:10] <Loshki> zteam: get some sleep. Battle to recommence tomorrow...
[02:11] <EriC^^> KEEm: i guess some songs
[02:12] <EriC^^> psy = psychedelic?
[02:13] <k1l> the error he gave is a typical error for 14.10 since not all services are fully switched to systemd. and the systemd stuff is complaining. but that should not make any difference to the system before the power cut
[02:13] <KEEm> eric^^ yeah i will send you an example, some i made my self :)
[02:13] <EriC^^> KEEm: ok, cool
[02:14] <KEEm> EriC^^: https://soundcloud.com/jonathanagerskov/palestine-psychedelic-trance
[02:15] <zteam> Loshki, yep, that's what I'm doing, but no Battle from my side :-)
[02:16] <Loshki> k1l: Isn't it about this? "FAT-fs (sdc1): Volume was not properly unmounted. Some data may be corrupt. Please run fsck."
[02:16] <k1l> Loshki: he told he is aware of this and that is his pendrive.
[02:16] <EriC^^> KEEm: seems cool, the start reminded me a bit of trainspotting's soundtrack, choose life
[02:16] <KEEm> nice :D
[02:17] <KEEm> thanks :)
[02:17] <zteam> Loshki, nope that just a usb-pendrive, I don't have my /home folder there
[02:18] <zteam> but time to sleep, goodnight and thanks for your help Loshki and k1l  :-)
[02:18] <Loshki> zteam: k1l: well, doesn't change anything then :-). Goodnight.
[02:22] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[02:23] <HFSPLUS> if swapiness is set to 0 does linux wait until the last resort to use swap space?
[02:23] <daftykins> heya
[02:24] <ubuntuaddicted> hey guys, i followed a guide to get transmageddon installed in xubuntu 14.04.1 but when I try to run it I see this error in the terminal: gi._glib.GError: transmageddon.ui: required gtk+ version 3.12, current version is 3.10
[02:24] <daftykins> aww .02 out!
[02:25] <reisio> gstreamer, pish
[02:26] <ubuntuaddicted> so is it possible to get GTK+3 in Xubuntu 14.04.1?
[02:26] <lotuspsychje> ubuntuaddicted: how did you install it exactly? url of the guide?
[02:27] <ubuntuaddicted> lotuspsychje, http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-transmageddon-1-3-on-ubuntu-14-04-and-derivative-systems/
[02:28] <lotuspsychje> ubuntuaddicted: did you instal that gstreamer also?
[02:28] <ubuntuaddicted> lotuspsychje, of course. it's a problem with gtk+ 3.12
[02:33] <lotuspsychje> ubuntuaddicted: maybe sudo apt-get clean and sudo apt-get install -f after
[02:34] <ubuntuaddicted> lotuspsychje, why? that won't install gtk+ 3.12
[02:35] <lotuspsychje> ubuntuaddicted: well if you need this version, why dont you install it then?
[02:35] <ubuntuaddicted> lotuspsychje, doesn't look like it's available in xubuntu 14.04.1
[02:35] <ubuntuaddicted> lotuspsychje, hence why i am here asking for help
[02:36] <lotuspsychje> ubuntuaddicted: you added this ppa on your own risk mate, xubuntu 14.04.1 should be up to date on its packages
[02:37] <ubuntuaddicted> lotuspsychje, xubuntu 14.04.1 is up to date, i'm not saying it's not. i'm asking if there's a safe way to upgrade gtk+ 3.12 installed in 14.04.1
[02:37] <lotuspsychje> !pinning | ubuntuaddicted maybe this way?
[02:39] <JC_Yang> why useradd a new user account doesn't create the home for the user as well?
[02:39] <ubuntuaddicted> lotuspsychje, you must not be understanding. gtk+ 3.12 isn't available in 14.04.1, it was released too late compared to when 14.04.1 was released.
[02:39] <JC_Yang> the man page states it should by default
[02:39] <ubuntuaddicted> JC_Yang, it should've, how did you create the new user?
[02:39] <geoffmcc> JC_Yang, if you want it to create home and set password, user adduser instead
[02:40] <k1l> JC_Yang: adduser is the ubuntu way
[02:40] <JC_Yang> I create that user in root, I sudo su before doing that operation
[02:41] <JC_Yang> but the man page of useradd claim it will....  weird...
[02:41] <sacarlson> JC_Yang: I have used useradd to make system accounts that have no home but I think I added something to do that
[02:42] <EriC^^> JC_Yang: no, it doesn't
[02:42] <EriC^^> JC_Yang: you have to use the -m option
[02:43] <geoffmcc> JC_Yang, you can use useradd to create the account, but you have to define everything such as home and password. adduser is a perl script that does all that for you and then sends it through useradd
[02:43] <geoffmcc> JC_Yang, not really do it for you, it will prompt you for the password and account details.
[02:44] <EriC^^> JC_Yang: and -r with userdel to delete the home dir and mail spool
[02:45] <EriC^^> JC_Yang: sudo useradd -m -g <groups,to,add,to> <username>
[02:45] <JC_Yang> I'm sorry I misread the man, thank u all
[02:45] <EriC^^> JC_Yang: then sudo passwd <username> to set the passwd, dont use space with the groups and ,
[02:47] <JC_Yang> the adduser is yet another interface?
[02:48] <Flannel> EriC^^, JC_Yang: Don't do that useradd command.
[02:48] <sacarlson> JC_Yang: ya that's the interface I used not useradd
[02:48] <EriC^^> Flannel: why not?
[02:48] <andreas> hi
[02:48] <Flannel> EriC^^, JC_Yang: To use useradd to add someone to groups, you NEED -a, otherwise you're /setting/ the groups, not adding to them.  A much safer interface is to use adduser ("adduser username group" will add username to group)
[02:49] <Sunstream> ALrighty I got a old HDD that used to be in a DVR but I cannot seem to be able to format it or do anything to it. How do I force a partition delete and redo on it?!
[02:49] <EriC^^> Flannel: i thought that was usermod -aG <groups>
[02:49] <lotuspsychje> !info gparted | Sunstream
[02:49] <Ben64> Sunstream: fdisk, parted, gparted, take your pick
[02:50] <EriC^^> Flannel: if you're creating the user, .. yeah just checked manpage useradd doesn't have a -a option
[02:50] <Sunstream> The problem is gparted does NOT show it, Disks does but no way to do a partition
[02:50] <Flannel> EriC^^: Mmm, you're right.  But useradd can't add multiple groups (-g specifies the initial login group, not a bunch of groups, it's -G that specifies the extra groups)
[02:50] <Ben64> Sunstream: how does it not show it? pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l"
[02:50] <Flannel> EriC^^: I knew something seemed off, but usermod -g (sans -a) is quite common (and I wanted to speak up quickly before someone removed themselves from admin)
[02:52] <Sunstream> It shows the stuff for the internal and usb chip but not the SDC
[02:52] <EriC^^> Flannel: yeah, i understand
[02:52] <Flannel> JC_Yang: but still, the normal (user friendlier) interface is to use adduser (the useradd manpage even calls this out)
[02:53] <JC_Yang> thank u, pals
[02:53] <Sunstream> it shows sda and sdb but not sdc
[02:54] <dsnyders> Sunstream: What type of disk is it, and how is it connected?
[02:54] <Ben64> Sunstream: pastebin
[02:54] <Sunstream> Ben pastebin will NOT help
[02:54] <Ben64> ok, good luck then
[02:55] <Sunstream> it does not show sdc
[02:55] <Sunstream> itis hooked up with an external hdd usb adapter
[02:55] <Ben64> if you're not willing to do stuff, then maybe this channel is not for you
[02:55] <xpistos> Is it possible to mount a usb external drive as an NFS share?
[02:55] <Sunstream> Ben
[02:55] <asddasasdasd> If somebody has a little time to spare and want to really help me out, I would love for you to download the following file, extract it on your Ubuntu desktop and run the "nw" binary. For me, *nothing* happens. It's supposed to open up a GUI box. It does on the Windows version. Not with the Linux one (for me). http://dl.node-webkit.org/v0.11.0/node-webkit-v0.11.0-linux-x64.tar.gz
[02:55] <Sunstream> what good will it do if the problem is on sdc and the output has nothing about sdc at all not even an error
[02:56] <Ben64> asddasasdasd: sounds extremely sketchy
[02:56] <Sunstream> I thought my device went bad so I hooked up an working drive and that shows
[02:56] <asddasasdasd> Ben64: https://github.com/rogerwang/node-webkit
[02:56] <Sunstream> so
[02:56] <asddasasdasd> Ben64: It's linked to from there. Unaffiliated with me in any way.
[02:56] <Sunstream> I think this disk is encrypted or somsthing
[02:56] <Ben64> asddasasdasd: doesn't really make it any less sketchy
[02:57] <lotuspsychje> Sunstream: what kind of hd is this? IDE? brand?
[02:57] <asddasasdasd> Ben64: It's a major software project...
[02:57] <asddasasdasd> Do it in a VM if you must.
[02:57] <Flannel> asddasasdasd: Regardless, it's offtopic for this channel.  Try #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:57] <asddasasdasd> It's 100% on-topic.
[02:57] <asddasasdasd> This is about Ubuntu not working correctly.
[02:57] <Ben64> "download this file and run it" is not on topic really
[02:57] <bobbyyu> Do you folks know where I can get dependencies?
[02:57] <dsnyders> Sunstream: Does the usb adapter show up in lsusb?
[02:57] <asddasasdasd> I'm trying to figure out why it doesn't work.
[02:58] <Ben64> bobbyyu: depends which ones, explain what you're doing, any errors you're getting, etc
[02:58] <Sunstream> Hitachi HDD Z3K323225A7A380 type TT5SAB250
[02:58] <HappyNewYear13> i messed up my audio config. commands to install alsa and pulseaudio. i even lost my volume icon but i have sound.
[02:58] <Sunstream> No
[02:58] <k1l> asddasasdasd: made it +x ?
[02:58] <lotuspsychje> Sunstream: well, i never seen any hd that gparted cant see..you sure this hd is not broken?
[02:58] <HappyNewYear13> i messed up my audio config. commands to reinstall alsa and pulseaudio. i even lost my volume icon but i have sound.
[02:58] <lotuspsychje> !sound | HappyNewYear13
[02:58] <bobbyyu> An update of vlc-data and libvlc took out the VLC program itself.
[02:58] <asddasasdasd> k1l: "Type" column says "Program".
[02:59] <Sunstream> it maybe possible it is brokern
[02:59] <k1l> asddasasdasd: dosnt matter
[02:59] <k1l> asddasasdasd: you need to give it the executable bit with chmod
[02:59] <bobbyyu> When I tried to reinstall vlc, I see dependency errors.
[02:59] <Ben64> bobbyyu: pastebin those errors
[02:59] <bobbyyu> OK.
[02:59] <bobbyyu> Let me take a piss first.
[02:59] <lotuspsychje> Sunstream: you might wanna try a hd sector boot disc on the hd maybe
[02:59] <dsnyders> Sunstream: On my USB adapter, I find that it is easy to misalign the pins on the plug to the hard drive.  Can you double-check that?
[02:59] <Ben64> bobbyyu: not necessary to share with the channel
[03:00] <asddasasdasd> k1l: It is.
[03:00] <Sunstream> it is inpossible to do that with a SATA hdd
[03:00] <asddasasdasd> If run from the terminal: "./nw: error while loading shared libraries: libudev.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[03:00] <Sunstream> but I did disconnect and reconnect
[03:01] <k1l> asddasasdasd: sudo apt-get install libudev0:i386
[03:01] <dsnyders> Sunstream: Is the drive getting enough power?
[03:01] <lotuspsychje> Sunstream: you said the disk tool sees your hd? did you try a SMART test?
[03:01] <asddasasdasd> k1l: I cannot tell users to run such commands...
[03:01] <asddasasdasd> It must work with what is shipped.
[03:01] <Sunstream> Ben http://paste.ubuntu.com/9035958/
[03:02] <Sunstream> Smart does not see it
[03:02] <Sunstream> now I plugged in a working drive
[03:02] <Flannel> asddasasdasd: Then you need to find software that doesn't depend on a shared library that isn't installed by default.
[03:02] <asddasasdasd> k1l: "Package libudev0:i386 is not available, but is referred to by another package."
[03:02] <bobbyyu> Here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9035960/
[03:02] <Flannel> asddasasdasd: What version of ubuntu are you on?
[03:02] <asddasasdasd> Flannel: Hmm. I guess I can ship that file.
[03:03] <k1l> asddasasdasd: ah its dropped from 14.04 even
[03:03] <Flannel> asddasasdasd: That's... not how this works.
[03:03] <asddasasdasd> Flannel: ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[03:03] <canada4663> Hello - I just upgraded to ubuntu 14.04 LTS, and my boot is hanging at "Starting enable remaining boot-time encrypted block devices" - any idea what this is?
[03:03] <asddasasdasd> What do you mean by "it's dropped from 14.04 even"?
[03:03] <k1l> asddasasdasd: see http://askubuntu.com/questions/288821/how-do-i-resolve-a-cannot-open-shared-object-file-libudev-so-0-error
[03:03] <Flannel> asddasasdasd: 14.04 has libudev1 not libudev0, so ... even less off base.  You'll need to find the version of that webkit thing that works with 14.04 libraries (should be easier)
[03:03] <asddasasdasd> They recently made some sort of change?
[03:03] <Sunstream> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9035972/ <--- with the working drive so I know that the device I am using for the drives work
[03:04] <HappyNewYear13> lotuspsychje, THANK U
[03:04] <k1l> asddasasdasd: its libudev1 since 14.04
[03:04] <xpistos> Does anyone know Is it possible to mount a usb external drive as an NFS share?
[03:04] <Sunstream> so I think this HDD is either encrypted or will not work with my Startech HDD to USB adapter
[03:05] <sacarlson> canada4663: I'm guessing you have an encrypted /home/user ?
[03:05] <dsnyders> Sunstream: was the drive working in the DVR?
[03:05] <reisio> xpistos: sure
[03:05] <lotuspsychje> Sunstream: would be interesting to plug your drive in an external case
[03:05] <bobbyyu> Ben64: I am trying right now on being able to install vlc-nox
[03:05] <Sunstream> Yep
[03:05] <canada4663> sacarlson: yes, I think I do.
[03:05] <Ben64> bobbyyu: pastebin "apt-cache policy vlc vlc-nox libavcodec55 libavcodec-extra-55 libavutil53 libavformat55 libgles1-mesa libgles1 libvncclient0"
[03:05] <lotuspsychje> Sunstream: might be your hd to usb adapter then
[03:05] <Sunstream> so I assume it is either encrypted or made to ONLY
[03:05] <dsnyders> Sunstream: I suspect the USB adapter is not providing enough power to the hard drive.
[03:05] <xpistos> reisio: Can you tell me how it needs to be setup? My internal drives are responding fine, but the usb share is not
[03:06] <Sunstream> I dont think so lotuspsychje, all my other drives work fine
[03:06] <canada4663> sacarlson: oddly, about 30% of the time the boot goes all the way through
[03:06] <sacarlson> canada4663: do you have another sudo account that's not encrypted so you might fix it?
[03:06] <lotuspsychje> Sunstream: even if the drive got endryption, gparted should be able to re-format it
[03:06] <asddasasdasd> k1l: So... is this error by Ubuntu, the node-webkit project or somebody else?
[03:06] <Sunstream> I have 2 full size and one laptop
[03:06] <Ben64> asddasasdasd: none of the above
[03:06] <sacarlson> canada4663: oh it's intermitent?
[03:06] <asddasasdasd> Whose fault is it?
[03:06] <bobbyyu> Pastebin? I don't understand? Copy that to the terminal?
[03:06] <k1l> asddasasdasd: its the node webkit demanding old files
[03:06] <canada4663> sacarlson: yes...
[03:06] <asddasasdasd> And more importantly: how do I actually fix it?
[03:06] <Sunstream> this is a 5V 700mA Hdd like my other laptop hdd and that laptop hdd works fine
[03:07] <Sunstream> I think maybe this drive is special
[03:07] <lotuspsychje> Sunstream: im more into following dsnyders
[03:07] <k1l> asddasasdasd: see the link i posted
[03:07] <asddasasdasd> I saw it.
[03:07] <usr13> !paste | bobbyyu
[03:07] <asddasasdasd> There was no solution in there.
[03:07] <k1l> asddasasdasd: there were a lot of solutions
[03:07] <asddasasdasd> The "solution" spoke of somehow getting an old version in an undisclosed manner.
[03:07] <Ben64> bobbyyu: same way you pasted the stuff before
[03:07] <sacarlson> canada4663: do you have  autologin set?
[03:07] <k1l> asddasasdasd: you just need to read and not only scan for commands to copy&paste
[03:08] <asddasasdasd> Like always on Stack Exchange, there are lots of replies but rarely if ever any real solutions.
[03:08] <JC_Yang> q
[03:08] <bobbyyu> Paste the output, right?
[03:08] <canada4663> sacarlson: I don't think I have autologin set, but I'm wondering if I have a service that is running in my name (i.e. dropbox)
[03:08] <bobbyyu> Paste the output of that command?
[03:08] <Ben64> bobbyyu: on paste.ubuntu.com yes
[03:09] <asddasasdasd> Okay. Got it working, but that was one ugly solution.
[03:09] <sacarlson> canada4663: oh ya maybe at boot before login something tries to access you /home and can't yet
[03:09] <lotuspsychje> Sunstream: checkout the ##hardware channel for other ideas to test your hd
[03:09] <bobbyyu> OK, here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9035993/
[03:09] <asddasasdasd> I really hope users won't have to deal with such commands.
[03:09] <sacarlson> canada4663: sounds like a race condition that some how sometimes passes
[03:09] <Flannel> asddasasdasd: That's what happens when you try to use software that's been compiled for different versions of things than your OS has.
[03:09] <xpistos> here is my /etc/exports on the server and /etc/fstab on the local
[03:09] <xpistos> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/9035994/
[03:09] <canada4663> sacarlson: Hmmm - odd.  any pointers for what to look for?
[03:10] <Ben64> bobbyyu: as i thought. you have PPAs enabled, those are not supported here and are causing your current dependency problems
[03:10] <JC_Yang> weird, when I try "adduser username groupname"  it says The user 'username' does not exist
[03:10] <bobbyyu> OK. Sorry.
[03:11] <EriC^^> JC_Yang: are you using any special characters in <username> ?
[03:11] <Harv_> Hi
[03:11] <JC_Yang> upper case is forbidden?
[03:11] <Flannel> JC_Yang: yes, first just "adduser username" that will add the user.  "adduser user group" adds a user to a group (not "adds a user")
[03:11] <EriC^^> JC_Yang: nevermind, yeah what Flannel said.
[03:11] <Flannel> JC_Yang: uppercase isn't forbidden (but unconventional)
[03:12] <Harv_> Hey anyone willing to help me with a post installion problem?
[03:12] <Sunstream> Nahh I am not worrried about this stupid drive enough
[03:12] <dsnyders> Sunstream: If the drive is working in the DVR, but cannot be seen when plugged into the USB dongle, and the USB dongle works (as evidenced by the other drive), then there is an incompatibility between the USB dongle and the DVR drive  (In my experience it's usually power). Try finding another way of connecting it other than the USB dongle.
[03:12] <JC_Yang> how about a user name need separator between words?
[03:12] <Sunstream> I got 2.160 TB of space on 3 other drives that do work
[03:13] <Sunstream> dsnyders, That could be
[03:13] <lotuspsychje> !details | Harv_
[03:13] <Harv_> Anyone?
[03:13] <EriC^^> JC_Yang: i don't think adduser will let you add a username with a "." using a separator seems like a bad idea.
[03:14] <asddasasdasd> Flannel: It's the 64-bit Linux files of node-webkit, which we use to package our actual application. I do not control the files they include there.
[03:14] <asddasasdasd> Flannel: So basically, I just hope that this won't mean that every Linux user will have to type in commands and shit.
[03:14] <Sunstream> JC_Yang, why do you want to use a user name with a "." in it?
[03:15] <Flannel> asddasasdasd: You should probably spend some time to learn more about how linux libraries are packaged and work, because you sound like you're not really understanding what you're doing, and I fear it'll lead to problems for you in the long run.
[03:15] <JC_Yang> I don't use dot as separator, how about underscore or hypen?
[03:15] <Sunstream> so user_name/user-name?
[03:15] <Sunstream> never seen anyone do that
[03:16] <Sunstream> but it is your system
[03:16] <Harv_> Okay after I installed Ubuntu what it was a Windows Exp, the machine specs are a Petuim 4 CPU @ 2.3Ghz with 1GB of RAM and I installed the 32 bits version of Ubuntu on it. After installion the GUI screen is totallly messed up. HOw do I fix this?
[03:17] <chaotix> hi.  i have a dell optiplex desktop computer with intel core 2 duo 6400 2.13 gzh, 1gb ram, not sure the graphics but here is the hardinfo report:  https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/61702610/hardinfo_report.html     ...anyways, currently it runs on xubuntu 12.04 and it seems to do pretty good, i am going to upgrade tonight or tomorrow, and i was wondering what kind of performance i could expect if i decided to go with ubuntu u
[03:17] <chaotix> nity instead of xfce?
[03:17] <asddasasdasd> Question: why is there a floppy disk icon on the default Ubuntu desktop in the menu?
[03:17] <bubbasaures> Harv_, This at boot and you never get to a login?
[03:17] <Sunstream> well
[03:18] <usr13> asddasasdasd: It is probably for a usb device or card reader.  Right?
[03:18] <Sunstream> JC_Yang, it seems _ may be a BAD idea too
[03:18] <asddasasdasd> usr13: It's literally a floppy disk.
[03:18] <asddasasdasd> It's even mentioned by name.
[03:18] <asddasasdasd> Default desktop view. Latest Ubuntu.
[03:18] <Harv_> The best details I could give that the GUI is doubled on the login page and cut in half so there are a login screen on the top left and the bottom left and on the right side it is completely gray and the whole screen is blanking every few secounds.
[03:19] <usr13> asddasasdasd: Does this computer have a floppy disk?
[03:19] <bubbasaures> Harv_, What does this mean exactly "I installed Ubuntu what it was a Windows Exp"
[03:19] <asddasasdasd> usr13: No. It's a VM.
[03:19] <usr13> asddasasdasd: Paste a screenshot, let's see what it looks like.
[03:20] <asddasasdasd> Maybe it virtually has, and that's why Ubuntu adds that icon?
[03:20] <k1l> asddasasdasd: yes, possible
[03:20] <usr13> asddasasdasd: http://imgur.com/
[03:20] <asddasasdasd> http://i.imgur.com/1CbF2Ye.png
[03:21] <Sunstream> Okay just one thing about "Unity" is pretty
[03:21] <Harv_> I installed Ubuntu to replace Windows Exp.
[03:21] <JC_Yang> but the traditional naming convention makes names with multiple parts/words difficult to read/recognize...
[03:21] <asddasasdasd> Harv_: What is Windows Exp.?
[03:21] <Harv_> via USB
[03:21] <usr13> asddasasdasd: So you have ubuntu running as a client OS in virtualbox?
[03:21] <asddasasdasd> usr13: Yes?
[03:21] <asddasasdasd> Well, VMware Player.
[03:22] <Harv_> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/end-support-help
[03:22] <lotuspsychje> Harv_: did you install ubuntu with internet enabled?
[03:22] <asddasasdasd> Because VirtualBox turned out to be too awful.
[03:22] <Harv_> It's was that.
[03:22] <usr13> asddasasdasd: Ok.  Well, I don't know.  That's interesting.
[03:22] <asddasasdasd> Harv_: It's "XP". Not "Exp.".
[03:22] <usr13> asddasasdasd: Why was VirtaulBox too awful?
[03:22] <Sunstream> Another thing about it, its pretty.... pretty slow on many systems. UNLESS you have a decent system which you may, it is very very slow compared to xubuntu
[03:22] <Harv_> No because I don't have enough ports to put the USB for wireless interent connection.
[03:22] <bubbasaures> !nomodeset | Harv_ Try this boot
[03:23] <asddasasdasd> usr13: Countless reasons, ranging from no "drag and drop" file transfers between desktops to pure performance.
[03:23] <lotuspsychje> Harv_: wich ubuntu version did you try?
[03:23] <asddasasdasd> usr13: Many things resulted in black screens or flickering, etc.
[03:23] <JC_Yang> I am a vbox user for pretty long time, it's ok overall
[03:23] <Sunstream> I do not recommend the use of it UNLESS you have 2GB of ram and a decent video card
[03:23] <xpistos> So does anyone know how to mount a external USB drive as an NFS Share?
[03:23] <asddasasdasd> You can tell that VirtualBox is open source and that VMware Player (while annoying crippleware) is not.
[03:23] <Harv_> 14.04 32 bits
[03:23] <usr13> asddasasdasd: What is the host OS?
[03:23] <asddasasdasd> Windows.
[03:23] <lotuspsychje> !nfs | xpistos
[03:24] <usr13> asddasasdasd: Win7?  Win8?  or...?
[03:24] <lotuspsychje> Harv_: its really recommended to install ubuntu with internet enabled (like cable) and enable updates during setup
[03:24] <asddasasdasd> usr13: 8.1 Update 1. Why is this so important?
[03:24] <xpistos> lotuspsychje: I have several NFS setup but I cannot get the external USB to be recognized in my local server
[03:25] <usr13> asddasasdasd: Ok.  Well, you are upside down in my opinion.  Win8 is quite a resource hog.
[03:25] <usr13> asddasasdasd: Linux is a MUCH more efficient operating system.
[03:25] <asddasasdasd> Has not been true at all in my experience.
[03:25] <NotANick> both windows 8 and linux are light in my opinion
[03:26] <asddasasdasd> Nobody uses Windows because it's the ultimate OS and so nice. We use it because there is no alternative for the tasks we use it for.
[03:26] <zykotick9> xpistos: if the USB is setup with fstab, and mounts normally.  NFS should have no problem with it...
[03:26] <asddasasdasd> And no, that's not gaming or "spreadsheets".
[03:26] <usr13> NotANick: Really, win8?  Can you install it on a 1.2GHz with 1G ram?
[03:26] <usr13> asddasasdasd: That was for you too...
[03:26] <NotANick> usr13: compared to linux of what?
[03:26] <usr13> any flavor
[03:27] <zykotick9> usr13: why feed?
[03:27] <xpistos> zykotick9: It is being seen as and mounted correctly using fstab on reboot
[03:27] <asddasasdasd> Again and again, the "open source" mindset fails to provide the necessary "polish" for many kinds of tasks. It's just how it is. Nothing can (easily) be done about that.
[03:27] <NotANick> to complete that, yes i have a win7 with that machine
[03:27] <usr13> zykotick9: Good point...
[03:27] <xpistos> zykotick9: but no luck with the NFS
[03:27] <Flannel> Guys, take the windows vs *nix vs * discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[03:27] <NotANick> i have had XFCE too
[03:27] <NotANick> both have been slow
[03:27] <usr13> Flannel: Ok
[03:27] <Harv_> I could try connecting the laptop with the ethernet cable, do you really think that will fix the GUI problem thoguh?
[03:27] <ubuntuaddicted> weird, normally my webcam mic shows up in audacity but it's not now. can anyone help please? it's a usb webcam
[03:28] <lotuspsychje> Harv_: that might do magic yes
[03:28] <Sunstream> ahem
[03:28] <Sunstream> Thank you everyone I thought maybe there was a way to get this hdd to work no worries
[03:28] <zykotick9> xpistos: NFS should be able to export anything that the kernel/system sees
[03:28] <Harv_> But how do I reinstall just reboot the flash again?
[03:28] <lotuspsychje> Harv_: i would surely reinstall fresh with cable on and updates during setup
[03:29] <EriC^^> ubuntuaddicted: is the module loaded? lsmod | grep uvcvideo
[03:29] <lotuspsychje> Harv_: yes, retry your usb and wipe whole hd again
[03:29] <dsnyders> Sunstream: next time you have your machine open, pop it in on a spare SATA connection.  and good luck.
[03:29] <Harv_> Okay but since it's already installed do I put the USB in+connect ethernet, then reboot from the USB?
[03:29] <ubuntuaddicted> EriC^^, yes, i can see the mic moving in pavucontrol
[03:29] <Sunstream> i am building a system and in that frankecomputer I will try it there
[03:30] <xpistos> zykotick9: I am rebooting my server and laptop and will check it, but there must be something more to using the USB through NFS
[03:30] <EriC^^> ubuntuaddicted: ah sorry i misread
[03:30] <lotuspsychje> Harv_: setup will see if your connected to cable or not
[03:30] <Harv_> Okay I will try that now.
[03:30] <lotuspsychje> Harv_: just reboot and reinstall
[03:30] <zykotick9> xpistos: USB should make zero difference...
[03:30] <Sunstream> .
[03:30] <lotuspsychje> xpistos: maybe this is relevant? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2106939
[03:31] <Sunstream> it will have 2 TB of HDDs in it and a 250G B SSD (primary system drive)
[03:31] <ubuntuaddicted> it's weird, it's like audacity isn't see the usb webcam mic at all. it doesn't show up under devices
[03:31] <EriC^^> ubuntuaddicted: maybe something else is using it or something?
[03:31] <Sunstream> thanks
[03:31] <xpistos> lotuspsychje: checking
[03:31] <lotuspsychje> what ssd brand you got?
[03:31] <djapo> are there any chat applications installed with the default ubuntu install?
[03:31] <djapo> like irc?
[03:32] <eric> pidgin
[03:32] <usr13> djapo: Yea, but I like irssi
[03:32] <djapo> is that installled by default?
[03:32] <lotuspsychje> djapo: xchat is nice to install
[03:32] <zykotick9> djapo: pidgin is an IM client, makes a poor IRC client IMO - xchat for gui, or irssi for cli.
[03:33] <ubuntuaddicted> EriC^^, negative. nothing else is running that would grab the mic. and it's not muted in alsamixer.
[03:34] <Sunstream> I haven't yet but likely a curcial
[03:34] <EriC^^> ubuntuaddicted: does arecord work? open a terminal and type arecord ~/bla
[03:34] <xpistos> just keeps telling me mount.nfs: Network is unreachable
[03:35] <Bashing-om> djapo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1010780 ; irssi install and initial set up.
[03:35] <xpistos> but my 3 other shares are fine
[03:36] <ubuntuaddicted> EriC^^, it returned this in the terminal Recording WAVE '/home/ubu/bla' : Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 8000 Hz, Mono
[03:36] <ubuntuaddicted>    but if i play back the file in vlc there's no audio
[03:36] <Sunstream> I will go with a top of the line SSD so I can have the most reliable
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> Sunstream: checkout ##linux-ssd for ssd tweaks etc
[03:36] <zykotick9> xpistos: if the usb is fat/ntfs then that "might" have permission issues involved
[03:37] <xpistos> zykotick9: lert me check that
[03:37] <EriC^^> ubuntuaddicted: i guess it's to do with the whole system then
[03:37] <usr13> xpistos: What exactly are you mounting?  (Or trying to mount.)
[03:38] <xpistos> usr13: it is a usb drive (ntfs formated) with christmas movies on it.
[03:38] <ubuntuaddicted> EriC^^, other software records my mic just fine. the other software uses pulse though. here's what arecord --list-devices returns: http://pastebin.com/JGg9Vb4z
[03:38] <usr13> xpistos: You say that, you "cant get the external USB to be recognized in my local server"?
[03:39] <metrix> I want to backup a server via LVM snapshots to a NAS.  What options do I have for bullet proof LVM backups?
[03:39] <usr13> xpistos: sudo fdisk -l  #Do you see it in that list?
[03:39] <lotuspsychje> metrix: also check the #ubuntu-server guys
[03:40] <metrix> OK will do
[03:40] <Sunstream> I will thanks
[03:43] <xpistos> I changes permissions to 777 and still nothing
[03:44] <usr13> xpistos: You changed permissions on what?
[03:44] <djapo> ok, i have irssi. but i was wondering if there are any default installed irc chat clients in ubuntu also do any of them have debug in the bottom?
[03:44] <xpistos> on the NFS share
[03:44] <ubuntuaddicted> can anyone help with audacity?
[03:44] <xpistos> the mount on the server
[03:45] <usr13> xpistos: I thought you were trying to mount a USB drive.
[03:45] <xpistos> The usb drive is mounted on a server
[03:45] <usr13> xpistos: So what exactly did you change permissions on?
[03:46] <lotuspsychje> !ask | ubuntuaddicted
[03:46] <xpistos> 777
[03:46] <usr13> xpistos: Where?
[03:46] <xpistos> on the server where I have the usb drive mounted
[03:46] <lotuspsychje> djapo: why do you want it to be default?
[03:47] <usr13> xpistos: You changed permissions on the mount point?
[03:47] <xpistos> yes
[03:47] <usr13> xpistos: I don't think that will do any good.
[03:47] <usr13> xpistos: What is the mount point?
[03:48] <usr13> xpistos: Full path...
[03:48] <xpistos> the drive is mounted to /mnt/XMAS
[03:48] <usr13> xpistos: pastebin your /etc/exports file.
[03:48] <xpistos> sudo chmod -R 777 /mnt/XMAS/
[03:48] <djapo> lotuspsychje: not default, i meant are there any irc clients installed in the ubuntu iso?
[03:49] <djapo> and do any of the have the words debug near the bottom?
[03:49] <ubuntuaddicted> lotuspsychje, i asked my question already. it's weird, normally my webcam mic shows up in audacity but it's not now. can anyone help please? it's a usb webcam
[03:49] <xpistos> /mnt/XMAS/Movies/	<IP_ADDRESS>(async,insecure,no_subtree_check,rw,nohide)
[03:50] <usr13> xpistos: ls /mnt/XMAS/Movies/  #Do you see the files?
[03:50] <lotuspsychje> djapo: you can add your setup cdrom to software sources to see whats inside the Iso
[03:50] <xpistos> if I ssh to the server and go to /mnt/Xmas/Movies yes, I see the files
[03:50] <lotuspsychje> djapo: its possible to install packages from there offline, not sure if it holds any irc clients
[03:51] <usr13> xpistos: Can you ping <IP_ADDRESS> ?  (From the server..)
[03:51] <xpistos> yes
[03:51] <usr13> xpistos: So the client is *still* <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[03:51] <xpistos> yues
[03:51] <xpistos> yes
[03:52] <usr13> xpistos: So let's see <IP_ADDRESS>'s fstab entry for it.
[03:52] <xpistos> 192.168.100:/mnt/XMAS/Movies/ /home/x/Videos/Christmas/Movies	nfs rw,hard,intr 0 0
[03:52] <usr13> xpistos: correct the IP address
[03:53] <xpistos> oh my god
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> djapo: not sure whats your end goal is exactly? what do you want to achieve?
[03:53] <usr13> xpistos: :)
[03:54] <xpistos> usr13: OMFG! I can't believe I didn't see that
[03:55] <xpistos> usr13: Thank you!
[03:55] <usr13> xpistos: NP.  (Gee, I've never made an obvious mistake like that.... *NOT*>>>)
[03:57] <djapo> lotuspsychje: i just want to know if there any chat applications or programs with debug at the bottom?
[03:58] <djapo> or what use would debug have in an application like that?
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> djapo: its possible to debug xchat..checkout other channels for irc client support
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> djapo: #xchat #irssi
[03:59] <nOTewARe2> is there an option like proxpn for ubuntu?
[04:01] <djapo> is xchat installed in ubuntu?
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> djapo: not by default, sudo apt-get install xchat
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> nOTewARe2: maybe the #openvpn guys might know a workaround for proxpn
[04:05] <nOTewARe2> lotuspsychje: thanks for that. I will check it out.
[04:32] <duckgoose> hi
[04:33] <duckgoose> why is it when I type "sudo rm -rf /" my computer freezes
[04:34] <allen> hey folks, can anyone help out with a gimp issue, worked great yesterday, but today i can't it to start up, no splash screen, no errors. it just doesn't load. I have removed it and re-installed with no luck. any ideas please ?
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> allen: try gimp from terminal for errors
[04:41] <bubbasaures> allen, You can go as far as deleting .gimp in home, it will rebuild
[04:42] <allen> thanks guys, i think i got it....i deleted the theme i was using and a whole bunch of gimp windows popped open
[04:43] <allen> i've been using PS in  Wine, but i'm trying really hard to go all Linux, was messing around last night trying to get Gimp to function like PS as much as i could, i knew it had to be something i messed up, but wasn't sure where to look.
[04:43] <allen> thanks for responding tho, i appreciate it.
[04:44] <bubbasaures> gotta burn some calories some way
[04:46] <allen> i've been on linux almost a year, about 6 months now with Ubuntu and i love it. but i am having a hard time getting used to the photo editors, 10+ years with PS its hard to switch
[04:48] <asddasasdasd> I just checked, and my VM doesn't seem to have any floppy disk drive. So why does Ubuntu show a floppy disk icon for me? Are you sure that the rest of you don't have this?
[04:48] <asddasasdasd> This is really fascinating to me.
[04:48] <asddasasdasd> An OS in 2014 (maybe) by default showing a floppy disk icon.
[04:49] <asddasasdasd> On the default menu on the first screen.
[04:49] <knightshade2> allen: do you know about the single window mode for gimp? makes it look more like PS.
[04:49] <timaaarrreee> allen: I feel your pain gimp is a complete UX/design fail and needs to be forked, scraped or re-written for this century.
[04:49] <allen> knightshade2, yes i do thanks. love it
[04:50] <allen> if anyone has something thats better than gimp i'd be interested in hearing about it,
[04:51] <timaaarrreee> DarkTable is promising for raw image processing for photography.
[04:52] <allen> timaaarrreee, i have Corel aftershot its pretty decent.
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> allen: you can also try playonlinux for installing other photo software
[04:54] <allen> lotuspsychje, yeah i'm running PS in Wine now, but i'm trying to go all native linux if i can
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> allen: good choice :p
[04:55] <allen> i mean my games i won't be able to, but i'd like my software to be if i can
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> timaaarrreee: that darktable site looks nice
[04:56] <allen> i really enjoy linux, the flexibility, my desktop is probably not the same as the next guys, it is custom to me and i like that. i like the lack of headaches, the lack of windows glitches.  i deal with them all day at work, it is almost a joy to come home to my laptop with Ubuntu lol
[04:57] <allen> my problem right now tho is, i know enough to be dangerous and not so much how to get myself out of it.
[05:05] <rypervenche> allen: Just always be sure that you know what you're running before you actually run it.
[05:05] <rypervenche> allen: I.e., don't blindly follow guides or run commands that someone on the net/IRC tells you to run.
[05:06] <allen> rypervenche, yes i learned that early on.
[05:07] <rypervenche> allen: And always make backups :)
[05:10] <allen> rypervenche, i always have stuff backed up, i could reload almost any day and not lose anything of importance
[05:14] <asddasasdasd> Even Photoshop itself has major usability issues. If you place the free "alternatives" next to it, though, it's like night and day.
[05:32] <TurdLicker> Hi
[05:35] <TurdLicker> Anyone on?
[05:36] <basil1x> Yes.  i hesitate to ask, but here goes.  TurdLicker?  Really?
[05:38] <basil1x> Must be a trollbot.  First saw one yesterday.   I'm just being goofy
[05:41] <basil1x> Better.  What's the issue, GoldenAngle
[05:41] <GoldenAngle> No specific issues
[05:42] <GoldenAngle> I just like to see what's up here
[05:42] <basil1x> Everyone's asleep.  Americans, you know.
[05:43] <GoldenAngle> Bummer. . I don't sleep much
[05:43] <basil1x> Nor I.  So I sit at computer, waiting for interesting things to happen.
[05:43] <beltorak> how do i run a 32 bit application on a 64 bit ubuntu? i have this program I am carrying over from my last machine (same ubuntu version); do I just install libc6:i386?
[05:44] <basil1x> Try that first, beltorak
[05:44] <basil1x> but don't let it uninstall anything you can't live without.
[05:45] <GoldenAngle> Basilx are you involved in IT?
[05:46] <basil1x> Not any more than I can't avoid, GoldenAngle
[05:47] <GoldenAngle> Primary occupation?
[05:47] <basil1x> Baking
[05:47] <basil1x> I had other jobs before, but I like the outcome of baking much better.
[05:48] <GoldenAngle> Wow.. cool
[05:48] <basil1x> People are happy when I show them the results now, too.
[05:50] <mehdi_> anybody know where can i find Yosemite icons for ubuntu?
[05:52] <OerHeks> mehdi_, maybe on a osX dvd?
[05:52] <basil1x> There's OSX4LIN
[05:52] <basil1x> sec
[05:53] <OerHeks> mehdi they are on deviantart... were ..http://elatik-p.deviantart.com/art/Yosemite-0-1-icons-for-ubuntu-14-04-481655058
[05:53] <mehdi_> OerHeks, i download ye package around 100MB yesterday but i donno how to apply them on my ubuntu the folders content  are different than my /usr/share/icons
[05:54] <OerHeks> mehdi_, oh, first you ars where, now you say you have downloaded them
[05:54] <cmdshftn> aaaaand deviant art appears down; good job
[05:54] <OerHeks> ask*
[05:55] <OerHeks> mehdi before i go googl ehowto do that, what is your real question ?
[05:55] <basil1x> mehdi, http://sourceforge.net/projects/mac4lin/?source=directory
[05:55] <OerHeks> ,,, just checking
[05:56] <mehdi_> OerHeks, i only need to have Yosemite icons applied,
[05:58] <OerHeks> mehdi sure they include a howto?
[06:00] <mehdi_> OerHeks, what include how to?
[06:01] <OerHeks> mehdi_, whatever package you downloaded?
[06:02] <mehdi_> OerHeks, they are bunch of .icns file and also there __MACOSX folder
[06:05] <vegombrei> hi is there a media server besides plex for ubuntu so i could stream to ps3
[06:09] <OerHeks> vegombrei, there was a ps3 mediaserver, but that project is dead
[06:09] <OerHeks> *unless you are on 12.04 precise
[06:13] <mehdi_> OerHeks, do u have the Yellowstone theme?
[06:14] <OerHeks> mehdi_, no, i don't care about themes myself.
[06:14] <OerHeks> mehdi_, if that package has no howto, nor the files are .png we cannot help.
[06:14] <mehdi_> :(
[06:16] <basil1x> Use the ones in the package I linked.  There's a nifty assistance doc, too. ;)
[06:16] <Guest29628> How do I stop an upstart service?
[06:18] <Bushmaster> hi, does ubuntu only has this unity desktop, is it not possible to choose any other desktop? Unity is kind of awkward cos all the software i downloaded kind of squizzed in the left hand scroll bar, and sometime it just too hard to scroll them cos it jump back and forth
[06:18] <Ben64> Guest29628: sudo service <foo> stop
[06:18] <daftykins> ubuntu / kubuntu/ xubuntu / lubuntu each offer a different one, Bushmaster
[06:18] <Guest29628> Ben64: it doesnt work
[06:18] <Guest29628> wait
[06:18] <Ben64> Bushmaster: you can install many different ones on ubuntu
[06:18] <bazhang> !notunity | Bushmaster
[06:18] <basil1x> Bushmaster, 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' will install KDE
[06:19] <Ben64> kubuntu-desktop will install the whole kubuntu desktop though, including redundant text editors and stuff
[06:20] <basil1x> Well, they're prettier. ;)
[06:20] <basil1x> And as a single command, it does work.
[06:20] <ivanity> Hi all! I'm trying to install 64 and 32 bit versions of the same package ("sudo apt-get install libgirepository-1.0-1:i386 libgirepository-1.0-1"), but apt-get says that would cause a conflict. What's the best way to learn which packages conflict with each other?
[06:22] <eb0t> hey guys which irc client do you use
[06:22] <Bushmaster> thanks basil1x and others
[06:23] <daftykins> eb0t: one that works. any reason for your query?
[06:23] <daftykins> are you looking for one of a specific kind?
[06:23] <basil1x> Welcome, Bushmaster
[06:23] <eb0t> yes reason is i was just curious as to which ones you use
[06:23] <eb0t> so i just asked
[06:23] <daftykins> irssi here
[06:23] <Bushmaster> danger is installing different desktop on my current ubunty may cause issues with my other software or file management dont u think basil1x
[06:24] <eb0t> ah cool i had a look at irssi...but preferred weechat
[06:24] <basil1x> eb0t, you obviously have one up and running.  It doesn't get better than that.    Avoid LXDE for instance.
[06:25] <eb0t> runs fantastic on ubuntu
[06:25] <eb0t> puts the rest to shame
[06:25] <OerHeks> eb0t, there is no single best, and beyond the topic of this channel, thanks/
[06:25] <eb0t> oh there is ...its called weechat
[06:26] <Bushmaster> right now i am in unity, i just want to replace that with something i am used to, may be xubuntu desktop, is it possible without breaking the system or its organization basil1x
[06:26] <eb0t> one fo the guys was using irrsi...i think i just changed his mind
[06:26] <basil1x> Oh poo.  I remempre you now, ethingy.  *ignore*
[06:26] <Ben64> eb0t: not on topic here, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic where nobody will care still
[06:26] <OerHeks> eb0t, stop it now, please
[06:27] <eb0t> say pretty please
[06:27] <basil1x> Xfce and unity play well together, Bushmaster .  Or so has been my opinion.  I'm sure you'll find someone who's found this not to be the case, though.
[06:28] <daftykins> i'm sure i'd seen eb0t before too.
[06:30] <Bushmaster> basil1x,  right now, i am running that unity and ubuntu LTS, cant remember the version name, i have several software in the unity left hand side bar that scroll and bounce back and forth when u try to scroll them with mouse, its annoying, cos they are bouncing, all i want is replacing this dekstop, but i certainly dont want the system to break, so do u know how to actually replace unity with xfce desktop then without compromising what softw
[06:30] <Bushmaster> are i installed etc? basil1x
[06:31] <bazhang> Bushmaster, try gnome-shell
[06:31] <basil1x> Not replace, no.  I can add it alongside fairly easily, though.
[06:31] <basil1x> though I'm sensing that's not what you want.
[06:31] <bazhang> Bushmaster, unity and gnome-shell are both gnome3 shells
[06:31] <Bushmaster> okay, so when i add it alongside, u mean in log in menu, it will ask me which desktop to choose basil1x
[06:32] <basil1x> I do
[06:32] <basil1x> You have to tick the toothy wheely thing and select it.  It will then be default until you select another.
[06:32] <Bushmaster> bazhang,  xfce will work for me as basil1x  may able to help me
[06:33] <basil1x> all you have to do is 'sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop' without the inverted commas.
[06:33] <basil1x> It will ask you to install quite a few packages.
[06:34] <Bushmaster> u sure it wont cause any issue on the software i have installed, i have carefully chosen software for my use, mostly mathematical software like R commander, Python IDE, LaTeX, etc and need to be careful i dont screw things up basil1x
[06:34] <bazhang> Bushmaster, keep in mind that install xubuntu-desktop with give you more than one of several similar applications
[06:34] <dkbhadeshiya_> running that command will install complete xubuntu desktop
[06:34] <basil1x> After that is done, reboot and choose the new DE at login.
[06:34] <dkbhadeshiya_> and even change the Grub entry to xubuntu
[06:34] <basil1x> I've never had any issue installing XFCE
[06:34] <joshuasm32> I have a major issue with Ubuntu:
[06:34] <basil1x> He's right.  It will update GRUB to reflect the change.
[06:35] <joshuasm32> I got sick of the guest account and tried to use this page http://www.howtogeek.com/117994/how-to-disable-ubuntus-guest-session-account/
[06:35] <Ben64> it'd be better to do "sudo apt-get install xfce4"
[06:35] <Ben64> not so many extra packages
[06:35] <joshuasm32> It involves editing LightDM.conf
[06:35] <dkbhadeshiya_> yes thats better
[06:36] <joshuasm32> Unlike what was shown, the file was empty and surprisingly there was no password prompt
[06:36] <dkbhadeshiya_> LightDM.conf has some entry about guest account, dont remember though, but you have to change it to 'false'
[06:36] <joshuasm32> I added the line "allow-guest=false" and restarted my device
[06:36] <joshuasm32> Now there is no GUI
[06:36] <Bushmaster> dkbhadeshiya_,  very well put comment, basil1x  as dkbhadeshiya_ point out, at the moment, i am multibooting with OpenSuse, Mint , Ubuntu and Windows, hence my grub entry is on OPenSuse GRUB2 it will cause issues dont u think, i mean i like OpenSuse grub2 entry, i can always reinstall it to get it back i assume, also Ubuntu is brilliant, cos it does not create issues running other Linux or windows with it alongside at all
[06:36] <joshuasm32> LightDM cannot be found it states
[06:36] <joshuasm32> I think there was a problem editing
[06:37] <joshuasm32> Reconfiguring graphics or using a low-graphic session does not work
[06:37] <basil1x> You should try his way forst, Bushmaster , as it's a subset of mine anyway.
[06:37] <joshuasm32> Cannot use any entries in the low graphics mode
[06:38]  * basil1x didn't clock that a dual grub thing was happening.  Sorry for the inconvenience.
[06:38] <joshuasm32> Basically I can't go to a login screen, command line in boot says LightDM is gone, and the tutorial was a piece of crap
[06:38] <Bushmaster> not sure about ur last comment basil1x  and Ben64  was suggesting xfce4, is it the one i should install?
[06:38] <joshuasm32> What should I do?
[06:39] <dkbhadeshiya_> try reinstalling lightdm
[06:39] <joshuasm32> How?
[06:39] <dkbhadeshiya_> if it fails then install GDM
[06:39] <joshuasm32> Command line is locked
[06:39] <joshuasm32> No GUI
[06:39] <dkbhadeshiya_> Command line is locked?? Strange
[06:39] <basil1x> Bushmaster, yes... try xfce4 first.
[06:39] <joshuasm32> in boot
[06:39] <dkbhadeshiya_> No GUI means you have access to CLI??
[06:39] <joshuasm32> "Stopping recovery options if display manager fails to start"
[06:39] <joshuasm32> Recovery does not work
[06:39] <beefkitten> Need help getting resolution above 1024x768???
[06:40] <joshuasm32> No options in it at all that is
[06:40] <joshuasm32> @beefkitten are you using a monitor?
[06:40] <beefkitten> yeah
[06:40] <joshuasm32> Click the other display icon
[06:40] <joshuasm32> Set built-in to disabled
[06:40] <joshuasm32> Then change it there
[06:41] <joshuasm32> Infinite message @dkbhadeshiya is shown
[06:41] <joshuasm32> no function at all
[06:41] <joshuasm32> its a laptop harddrive cannot be taken out
[06:41] <joshuasm32> and the disk is encrypted
[06:42] <eblip> wow disk encryption
[06:42] <beefkitten> joshuasm32: i'm only working on one dispay...there is no "other display" option in my settings
[06:43] <beefkitten> just built new machine today, and display is the only thing we can't get right
[06:43] <joshuasm32> oh
[06:43] <joshuasm32> sry i use laptop with external display a lot
[06:44] <joshuasm32> Anyway, I need to access my laptop
[06:45] <joshuasm32> Does anyone know how to edit the LightDB.conf file from the in-boot command line (by hitting esc) and have it restored?
[06:45] <jamswat> joshuasm32, Does SSH work?
[06:45] <jamswat> Oops sorry
[06:46] <jamswat> was reading old stuff
[06:46] <joshuasm32> Running Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[06:47] <niLuvU> https://example.org/owncloud/remote.php/webdav
[06:47] <niLuvU> is this safe ^
[06:47] <niLuvU> https + webdav ?
[06:47] <Bushmaster> basil1x, just finised installing it, let me reboot and see what happen, thanks for the help and i may seek help if i get stuck
[06:48] <jamswat> So anyway joshuasm32, it turns out my question was relevant. Does SSHing from another machine to the locked up machine work?
[06:49] <joshuasm32> I'm not sure what you mean sorry
[06:49] <joshuasm32> My disk is encrypted
[06:49] <joshuasm32> This may be a problem if using remote
[06:50] <jamswat> Do you have any other computers connected to your network?
[06:50] <vegombrei> hi how do i install files that come in tar.gz
[06:50] <vegombrei> im new to linux
[06:50] <jamswat> vegombrei, they're source files
[06:50] <joshuasm32> Yes
[06:50] <jamswat> you need to compile them
[06:51] <joshuasm32> A smaller notebook
[06:51] <jamswat> okay. That's good.
[06:51] <basil1x> vegombrei, have you extracted the files and looked for instructions?
[06:51] <vegombrei> i extracted them into the download folder and now im confused dunno what to do
[06:51] <jamswat> windows or linux on the netbook?
[06:51] <basil1x> Or checked to see if someone's made a .deb of whatever it is?
[06:51] <EriC^^> vegombrei: check the README
[06:51] <joshuasm32> @vegombrei do you want to install or run?
[06:52] <basil1x> because being new, a .deb would simplify everything.
[06:52] <joshuasm32> tar.xz is like a zip in windows
[06:52] <joshuasm32> inside is a .sf file usually
[06:52] <joshuasm32> you have to change a setting to run it instead of viewing source code
[06:52] <joshuasm32> you can do this by editing preferences in nautilus, under behavious
[06:52] <joshuasm32> *behaviour
[06:52] <jamswat> Also joshuasm32, do you have a android/iOS device?
[06:52] <joshuasm32> no
[06:53] <joshuasm32> 2 ubuntu, 1 raspbmc
[06:53] <jamswat> that's going to make it a bit more difficult. Oh well.
[06:53] <joshuasm32> 1 ubuntu is down
[06:53] <joshuasm32> Oh...
[06:53] <joshuasm32> Sorry about than then
[06:53] <jamswat> On the working machine type "sudo apt-get install zenmap"
[06:53] <joshuasm32> okay
[06:54] <vegombrei> EriC^^: readme gives absolutely no information on how to install
[06:54] <EriC^^> vegombrei: what are you trying to install?
[06:54] <joshuasm32> vego, do you want to install or are you okay with just running it?
[06:54] <joshuasm32> *vegombrei
[06:55] <vegombrei> EriC^^: serviio is a media server i wanna use instead of plex
[06:55] <jamswat> I forgot to ask, joshuasm32. Is the locked up machine a desktop or laptop?
[06:55] <joshuasm32> laptop
[06:56] <joshuasm32> acer aspire with touch ^^
[06:56] <SwiftRider> Hello
[06:56] <joshuasm32> hello
[06:56] <EriC^^> vegombrei: ok, where did you download it from?
[06:56] <jamswat> Does it have a ethernet port?
[06:56] <SwiftRider> I'm having troubles copying files from a CD drive to my system.
[06:56] <joshuasm32> yes
[06:56] <SwiftRider> When I try to select all the files and use 'Copy' option in the right click panel, it says 'Input/output error'. I'm guessing it's a permission issue.
[06:56] <SwiftRider> What can I do to fix this?
[06:56] <vegombrei> EriC^^: http://www.serviio.org/
[06:57] <jamswat> good, is it possible to connect it up to your router with an ethernet cable?
[06:57] <joshuasm32> yes :)
[06:57] <jamswat> Good.
[06:57] <joshuasm32> finished zenmap install...
[06:58] <jamswat> Can you now tell me the output of "ifconfig"
[06:58] <metaphysician> Is it true that Ubuntu kernel team is going to maintain 3.16 kernel until 2016? What PPA are they using for same?
[06:58] <DarwinSurvivor> SwiftRider: is this with all CDs or one in particular?
[06:58] <SwiftRider> DarwinSurvivor: Just this one.
[06:58] <jamswat> there should be a line containing "192.168"
[06:58] <jamswat> paste that
[06:58] <DarwinSurvivor> SwiftRider: it could be a sign of a damaged disk, are there any visible scratches/etc on the bottom surface?
[06:59] <vegombrei> howcome they dont make installables where you double click and it installs or even sudo apt-get is awesome how does a newbie deal with tar.gz and then install this?
[06:59] <SwiftRider> DarwinSurvivor: Nope. It works perfectly on Windows.
[06:59] <joshuasm32>  br0       Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr dc:0e:a1:57:1a:fa
[06:59] <joshuasm32>           inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>  Bcast:<IP_ADDRESS>  Mask:<IP_ADDRESS>
[06:59] <joshuasm32>           inet6 addr: fe80::de0e:a1ff:fe57:1afa/64 Scope:Link
[06:59] <joshuasm32>           UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[06:59] <joshuasm32>           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[06:59] <jamswat> good
[06:59] <DarwinSurvivor> SwiftRider: Windows may not be being as picky about the checksums or something
[07:00] <SwiftRider> Should've told him to do ifconfig | grep 192 or something ^_^
[07:00] <DarwinSurvivor> SwiftRider: is this a burned disk, or factory made?
[07:00] <basil1x> vegombrei, newbies usually go lok for a ppa from some nice person who's built whatever it is for Ubuntu
[07:00] <jamswat> True. Now I feel bad. :(
[07:00] <SwiftRider> DarwinSurvivor: Burned disk.
[07:00] <jamswat> Sorry Josh!
[07:00] <DarwinSurvivor> SwiftRider: how recently?
[07:00] <jamswat> anyway, I now have the info I need
[07:00] <EriC^^> vegombrei: cd to the directory you extracted, and type ./bin/serviio.sh
[07:00] <SwiftRider> DarwinSurvivor: An year ago, maybe.
[07:00] <jamswat> type "gksudo zenmap &"
[07:01] <joshuasm32> oh no my mistake thanks btw
[07:01] <jamswat> and put in your password.
[07:01] <EriC^^> vegombrei: to start the console type ./bin/serviio-console.sh
[07:01] <joshuasm32> done
[07:01] <EriC^^> vegombrei: check starting the server and adding media etc. here http://www.serviio.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5
[07:02] <jamswat> Okay, in the target box type "192.168.1.*"
[07:02] <SwiftRider> DarwinSurvivor: Basically, I just want to play a media file. It's in .DAT format, but I can't seem to be able to play it.
[07:02] <Bushmaster> basil1x, thanks, succesfully installed and work fine and good news is, it did not update my grub either, all i need to figure out is how to get rid of the all the parittion disk icon showing on the desktop and how to change the theme and wallapaper
[07:02] <DarwinSurvivor> SwiftRider: If you are only seeing problems with this 1 disk, chances are it is a problem with the disk (different operating systems and applications will handle this differently). If you really want to read the data in Linux, you could try dd'ing the disk to an image file then mounting that
[07:02] <SwiftRider> I don't really need to copy it to the drive anyway; just playing is enough.
[07:03] <DarwinSurvivor> SwiftRider: if you still have the original versions of the data (on another computer, etc), then I would highly recommend using those instead of a possibly damaged disk
[07:03] <jamswat> And in the profile box select "Quick scan plus"
[07:03] <jamswat> and press "scan"
[07:03] <basil1x> Bushmaster, do you *want* to rid yourself of the desktop icons?
[07:03] <Bushmaster> basil1x, good news is, it did not break the system, and all the software i installed in Unity remain well intact and well organized
[07:03] <SwiftRider> DarwinSurvivor: I don't, that's the problem :(
[07:03] <jamswat> It might take a few minutes to finish
[07:03] <joshuasm32> okay
[07:03] <joshuasm32> still doing it
[07:03] <EriC^^> vegombrei: it says you need to install ffmpeg first, if it doesn't work, type sudo apt-get install ffmpeg
[07:03] <SwiftRider> DarwinSurvivor: Could you tell me how to do that? I'm reading man dd but that's going to take me a lot of time :/
[07:03] <Bushmaster> yes basil1x i like to keep my desktop clean and also the wallpaper, i like rainforest etc by default it chose a blue screen
[07:03] <SwiftRider> <-- n00b
[07:04] <jamswat> When it's done, copy the output, put it on pastebin.org, and send it to me.
[07:04] <basil1x> Bushmaster, they're there in xfce, though I do think you can configure it to not put them there, but I'm not on xfce atm, so buggered if I can recall how.
[07:05] <Bushmaster> yes its little difficult unlike unity basil1x  thanaks anyhow
[07:05] <DarwinSurvivor> SwiftRider: then I would dd the disk to a local image and mount that locally, though I cannot guarantee the file will be uncorrupted
[07:05] <basil1x> Welcome.
[07:05] <joshuasm32> http://pastebin.com/Evb7Mhhn
[07:05] <SwiftRider> DarwinSurvivor: Yeah, how to do 'dd the disk to local image'?
[07:05] <Bushmaster> thanks Ben64 for suggesting xfc64, its good and it did not update my GRUB which is good
[07:06] <DarwinSurvivor> SwiftRider: if you run "mount" it should print a bunch of information, 1 line will indicate your cdrom (/dev/cdrom or something similar)
[07:06] <jamswat> Damn. Just what I didn't want to see.
[07:06] <EriC^^> SwiftRider: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/path/to/save/image.img
[07:06] <jamswat> Are you sure that the ethernet cable is plugged in?
[07:07] <vegombrei> EriC^^: you installed it sucessfully?
[07:07] <joshuasm32> i'll reboot the router
[07:07] <jamswat> That wouldn't do anything.
[07:07] <joshuasm32> ethernet is a bit dogy
[07:07] <jamswat> Okay.
[07:07] <joshuasm32> *dodegy
[07:07] <EriC^^> vegombrei: i didn't install it, i read the docs on the website
[07:07] <vegombrei> EriC^^: dude nothing happens
[07:07] <EriC^^> there's an install guide i pasted the link earlier
[07:07] <EriC^^> vegombrei: i think the first command runs the server
[07:08] <EriC^^> ( in the background )
[07:08] <SwiftRider> EriC^^: thanks. That's done.
[07:08] <SwiftRider> How do I mount it?
[07:08] <jamswat> Anyway, ensure the cable is plugged in, and reboot the frozen pc.
[07:08] <vegombrei> EriC^^: cruisor goes to the next line and nothing happens
[07:08] <DarwinSurvivor> SwiftRider: how big of a file did it create?
[07:08] <EriC^^> vegombrei: the second command runs a console i guess
[07:08] <DarwinSurvivor> "du -h /path/to/save/image.img"
[07:08] <john> hey guys, I need a little help with installing ubuntu on assus laptop
[07:08] <EriC^^> vegombrei: with the second command?
[07:08] <jamswat> Then redo the scan, and send it again.
[07:08] <EriC^^> SwiftRider: the cdrom could be /dev/sr0 btw
[07:09] <vegombrei> EriC^^: one sec
[07:09] <EriC^^> SwiftRider: it most likely is, type lsblk to check
[07:09] <__john__doe__> I have windows uefi installation that I can't delete
[07:09] <joshuasm32> ethernet works now restarting scan
[07:09] <EriC^^> SwiftRider: nevermind, /dev/cdrom is a symlink to /dev/sr0
[07:09] <__john__doe__> I want to install it with legacy boot option, with grub2
[07:09] <EriC^^> SwiftRider: so it's the same thing
[07:10] <__john__doe__> so that windows installation is intact, while Im using linux
[07:10] <DarwinSurvivor> __john__doe__: which version of windows?
[07:10] <__john__doe__> I installed it, didn't have any error
[07:10] <__john__doe__> 8.1
[07:10] <__john__doe__> I dont need dual boot
[07:10] <__john__doe__> I just dont want to delete windows and all of its recovery stuff
[07:10] <__john__doe__> and use linux as main OS
[07:10] <SwiftRider> EriC^^: 651264 bytes (651 kB) copied, 0.0604047 s, 10.8 MB/s
[07:10] <SwiftRider> Weird.
[07:11] <SwiftRider> It's the same for both /dev/cdrom and /dev/sr0
[07:11] <joshuasm32> http://pastebin.com/ynfvRZtA
[07:11] <EriC^^> SwiftRider: that's odd
[07:12] <DarwinSurvivor> SwiftRider: it sounds like you either copied the wrong device, or the disk is unreadable
[07:12] <SwiftRider> DarwinSurvivor: How do I know if the disk is unreadable?
[07:12] <lolbox> Hello
[07:12] <jamswat> Nope. It's not finding the broken machine.
[07:12] <jamswat> That's a shame.
[07:12] <joshuasm32> i'll try again in a few minutes
[07:13] <sacarlson> __john__doe__: ubuntu cdlive install will ask if you want to just delete all and install it.  can't you just use that option?
[07:13] <EriC^^> SwiftRider: try with conv=noerror
[07:13] <joshuasm32> maybe still booting?
[07:13] <jamswat> Maybe.
[07:13] <SwiftRider> ls output => lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 Nov 16 12:39 /dev/cdrom -> sr0
[07:13] <EriC^^> SwiftRider: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/path/to/save/image.img conv=noerror
[07:13] <DarwinSurvivor> SwiftRider: run "mount" and you should see an entry for the cdrom if it is still mounted
[07:13] <joshuasm32> i'm using my parent's evil airport router, its ports are all jacked up
[07:13] <EriC^^> SwiftRider: notrunc too
[07:13] <joshuasm32> may be it
[07:13] <EriC^^> SwiftRider: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/path/to/save/image.img conv=notrunc,noerror
[07:13] <deego> which parent's?
[07:14] <joshuasm32> parents' you troll
[07:14] <joshuasm32> :)
[07:14] <deego> lol
[07:14] <SwiftRider> DarwinSurvivor: Yes, it's still mounted.
[07:14] <lolbox> so yesterday i've installed ubuntu 14.10 and i keep getting display freezes,i am running nvidia-331 from additional drivers,i can get past the freezes by switching to a tty,is there any solution except for switching back and forth?
[07:14] <DarwinSurvivor> SwiftRider: does it show /dev/cdrom as the device that it mounted?
[07:14] <joshuasm32> I'm really hoping I won't need to fresh install
[07:14] <SwiftRider> EriC^^: Same thing happens. Except it repeats over and over again. The file size remains the same.
[07:15] <jamswat> So joshuasm32, is your entire disk encrypted?
[07:15] <joshuasm32> using the option in the ubuntu setup
[07:15] <SwiftRider> DarwinSurvivor: /dev/sr0 on /media/user/diskname type iso9660 (ro,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,iocharset=utf8,mode=0400,dmode=0500,uhelper=udisks2)
[07:15] <joshuasm32> requires password during boot
[07:15] <DarwinSurvivor> SwiftRider: ok, then dd with /dev/sr0 should be correct
[07:16] <jamswat> Doesn't that only encrypt your home folder? Maybe someone else can correct me. I've never really messed around with encryption.
[07:16] <joshuasm32> No
[07:16] <joshuasm32> That's another option
[07:16] <joshuasm32> I'm using both at once ^^
[07:16] <jamswat> Ahh yes, I understand.
[07:16] <joshuasm32> It's when you select install ubuntu
[07:16] <joshuasm32> there is an option to encrypt it as well and even use logical volume management
[07:16] <joshuasm32> I have both enabled
[07:16] <jamswat> Does it get to the point where it prompts you for your password?
[07:16] <__john__doe__> sacarlson: I set up my partition manually
[07:16] <SwiftRider> DarwinSurvivor: Still the same file size. 693 KB. Could it be a permission issue?
[07:16] <joshuasm32> yes
[07:16] <__john__doe__> because I need certain setup
[07:17] <joshuasm32> past that
[07:17] <DarwinSurvivor> jamswat: if you need to enter the encryption password before the login screen, that is whole-disk encryption
[07:17] <joshuasm32> then goes into low graphical boot
[07:17] <__john__doe__> I did everything that partition wizzard asked me
[07:17] <__john__doe__> but it's not working
[07:17] <jamswat> Yep. Thanks DarwinSurvivor.
[07:17] <joshuasm32> however, nothing in low graphic boot works
[07:17] <DarwinSurvivor> jamswat: home-folder encryption will almost always use your login password as the decryption key, making it seemless
[07:17] <joshuasm32> blinks the "window", then shows the thing again
[07:17] <joshuasm32> screenshot?
[07:17] <SwiftRider> I don't know if it makes any difference, but I tried `sudo su -` and cd'd to the cdrom directory and did `cp -R . ~/Desktop` - it outputted the same error.
[07:17] <joshuasm32> i can use a command line thing when hitting esc
[07:18] <DarwinSurvivor> SwiftRider: if it was a permission issue, you should get an error
[07:18] <joshuasm32> message there says display manager cannot be loaded
[07:18] <joshuasm32> then sits infinitely
[07:18] <DarwinSurvivor> SwiftRider: what does "ls -l /dev/sr0" print?
[07:18] <sacarlson> __john__doe__: so erase all that's in the efi partition and see how it goes.  I"ve never installed efi manualy before
[07:18] <SwiftRider> DarwinSurvivor: brw-rw----+ 1 root cdrom 11, 0 Nov 16 12:39 /dev/sr0
[07:18] <jamswat> And it doesn't respond to anything?
[07:18] <joshuasm32> nope
[07:19] <__john__doe__> sacarlson: I dont want uefi
[07:19] <joshuasm32> what ip* thing was it again?
[07:19] <__john__doe__> I want to keep it on my disk
[07:19] <__john__doe__> but use grub
[07:19] <Stainedhat> hey all, I'm having problems with ubuntu server 14.04 cli going to sleep and losing network connectivity. I've tried acpi=off but that seems to break lvm. Any other options for disabling power management?
[07:19] <joshuasm32> me too
[07:19] <__john__doe__> I setup my bios 10mb partition because it's gpt partition type
[07:19] <DarwinSurvivor> SwiftRider: if "cdrom" appears in the list when you run "id", then there should be no permissions issues
[07:19] <lolbox> i wonder how to fix the random display freezing
[07:19] <sacarlson> __john__doe__: oh is that option work in your bios?  the just delete the uefi partition and see if it works
[07:19] <__john__doe__> I setup my boot partition, root and home
[07:19] <jamswat> Does it respond to REISUB? http://fosswire.com/post/2007/09/fix-a-frozen-system-with-the-magic-sysrq-keys/
[07:19] <joshuasm32> have to restart a lot network breaks
[07:20] <Stainedhat> I'm running in a virtualbox so no real bios
[07:20] <__john__doe__> sacarlson: I cant delete it
[07:20] <__john__doe__> than I wont be able to recover windows later
[07:20] <jamswat> Just to make sure SOMETHING's still working.
[07:20] <__john__doe__> it's company computer, not my personal
[07:20] <SwiftRider> DarwinSurvivor: It does.
[07:20] <sacarlson> __john__doe__: oh you stated you didn't want dual boot
[07:20] <__john__doe__> that's why I decided not to touch uefi but to go with grub
[07:20] <DarwinSurvivor> SwiftRider: then it's not a permissions issue
[07:20] <__john__doe__> sacarlson: yep
[07:20] <joshuasm32> @who jamswat?
[07:20] <joshuasm32> REISUB thing
[07:20] <SwiftRider> Dammit, I give up. I'll just install Windows and copy the contents -____-
[07:21] <EriC^^> SwiftRider: try isoinfo -d -i /dev/sr0 | grep -i -E 'block size|volume size'
[07:21] <SwiftRider> DarwinSurvivor, EriC^^: Thank you for your help!
[07:21] <jamswat> joshuasm32,
[07:21] <Xe> I am getting X to segfault when loading the proprietary ATI drivers
[07:21] <sacarlson> __john__doe__: you might be able to point your bios to anther disk or another partition of the disk for mbr then
[07:21] <DarwinSurvivor> SwiftRider: if Windows can read it, then try copying the files in Windows, then moving them to Linux
[07:21] <SwiftRider> EriC^^: Logical block size is: 2048, Volume size is: 1124
[07:21] <__john__doe__> see on my home laptop, ACER, I disable secure boot and I get legacy option
[07:21] <joshuasm32> ...it isn't frozen however
[07:21] <jamswat> Sorry, I should make it obvious, don't want someone accidently using reisub. :)
[07:22] <SwiftRider> DarwinSurvivor: Yeah, but the problem is I don't have Windows installed.
[07:22] <joshuasm32> esc can toggle, as can arrow keys
[07:22] <Xe> looking at the logs it looks like a null pointer error
[07:22] <EriC^^> SwiftRider: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/path/to/save/image.img bs=2048 count=1124 conv=notrunc,noerror
[07:22] <DarwinSurvivor> SwiftRider: It sounds like the disk itself is damaged though, so you may want to try some physical recovery as well (disk repair kit, simple cleaning, etc)
[07:22] <joshuasm32> but cmd line is locked
[07:22] <__john__doe__> on asus I disabled secure boot and enabled csm and PXE OpROM
[07:22] <__john__doe__> but still doesn't boot
[07:22] <daftykins> lol PXE option ROM is for network boot.
[07:22] <EriC^^> SwiftRider: i think that means there's only 2mb on the cdrom
[07:22] <__john__doe__> daftykins: so should I just keep CSM?
[07:23] <sacarlson> __john__doe__: ya pxe is netboot
[07:23] <jamswat> joshuasm32, what do you mean? You don't need the command line. This works at a very low kernel level.
[07:23] <DarwinSurvivor> SwiftRider: sometimes (but rarely), just trying a computer with a different drive can do the trick
[07:23] <jamswat> Does it reboot the stuck PC?
[07:23] <daftykins> __john__doe__: that's only relevant if you want a non-EFI install
[07:23] <joshuasm32> not sure what you mean
[07:23] <__john__doe__> daftykins: I did non-efi install
[07:23] <SwiftRider> EriC^^: Nope, properties says '19 items, totalling 616.4 MB'
[07:24] <daftykins> __john__doe__: i saw you mention GPT, CSM can't boot from a GPT disk
[07:24] <__john__doe__> daftykins: legacy boot can
[07:24] <daftykins> __john__doe__: i don't even know what your issue is though :) just switched channels
[07:24] <sacarlson> __john__doe__: so you already did non-efi install so where did you point to put your mbr?
[07:24] <jamswat> Holding "SysReq" +  "R" "E" "I" "S" "U" "B" keys in linux forces the PC to reboot.
[07:24] <joshuasm32> i can reboot it
[07:24] <__john__doe__> to 10md bios partition I created manually
[07:25] <EriC^^> SwiftRider: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/path/to/save/image.img bs=2048 count=300000 conv=notrunc,noerror
[07:25] <jamswat> Using those keys.
[07:25] <jamswat> ?
[07:25] <__john__doe__> actually ubuntu asked me that
[07:25] <EriC^^> SwiftRider: try that and see if it the image file is larger
[07:25] <jamswat> Just to see if the kernel'
[07:25] <jamswat> s responding.
[07:25] <joshuasm32> ah
[07:25] <martyj-o> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/ <-- What the eff? Since when can 32-bit computers only have less than 2 GB of RAM? It's 4 GB or less...
[07:25] <joshuasm32> i can hold the power button
[07:25] <joshuasm32> controls work
[07:26] <EriC^^> SwiftRider: ( that wont get you all that's on the cd, but check if it gets you more first )
[07:26] <joshuasm32> i can hit esc or left/right and switch from splash screen to command line thing
[07:26] <SwiftRider> EriC^^: It is. It's now 1.1 MB
[07:26] <sacarlson> __john__doe__: ok then now you have to point bios to that 10mb partition if your bios supports such things
[07:26] <joshuasm32> and tap/hold power to reboot
[07:26] <joshuasm32> it isn't frozen, but the command line makes no progress in boot and does not accept commands
[07:26] <joshuasm32> (the usual thing)
[07:26] <__john__doe__> sacarlson: I know, that's where I got stuck :)
[07:26] <joshuasm32> are you able to type when hitting esc during boot?
[07:26] <Xe> Anyone available to answer my question?
[07:26] <joshuasm32> i've never been able :/
[07:27] <martyj-o> Can somebody explain my finding?
[07:27] <sacarlson> __john__doe__: ok then mybe your bios doesn't support it
[07:27] <martyj-o> Why does the page talk about "less than 2 GB"?
[07:27] <__john__doe__> hmmmm
[07:28] <sacarlson> __john__doe__: maybe you will need some usb or cd bios loader just to boot your main disk
[07:28] <joshuasm32> i'm guessing its a lost cause?
[07:28] <__john__doe__> sacarlson that's what I thought
[07:28] <__john__doe__> how can I create grub on my usb, if I boot from same usb
[07:28] <Flannel> martyj-o: You can use either one.  They're recommending the 64bit version for computers with larger than 2GB of RAM
[07:28] <__john__doe__> I have only one available
[07:28] <jamwat> I'm back.
[07:29] <sacarlson> __john__doe__: you can use something like plop to boot your main disk from usb
[07:29] <sacarlson> __john__doe__: again assuming your system supports usb boot
[07:29] <joshuasm32> Such a shame... I just spent weeks upgrading all of my media to pbthal flac
[07:29] <joshuasm32> not backed up
[07:29] <__john__doe__> sacarlson: it does, I installed ubuntu from unetbootin usb stick
[07:29] <jamwat> That's unfortunate. :(
[07:30] <daftykins> martyj-o: yeah, you didn't understand its' intention very well. it says <2GB because that's the 'less than' value which means more sense for using a 32-bit distro with. simple.
[07:30] <sacarlson> __john__doe__: ok well that's a last resort then plop or similar grub usb
[07:31] <joshuasm32> @jam(s)wat, what was the ip* thing again?
[07:31] <joshuasm32> to use in zen?
[07:31] <jamwat> "192.168.1.*"
[07:31] <daftykins> jamwat: do you have a question?
[07:32] <sacarlson> __john__doe__: but keep researching your bios to be sure there isn't a better way http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/download.html
[07:32] <jamwat> What do you mean?
[07:32] <joshuasm32> no
[07:32] <joshuasm32> he's helping me
[07:32] <joshuasm32> i owe u one
[07:32] <joshuasm32> thanks for helping so far
[07:32] <jamwat> That's okay. I really should be studying for exams atm. :P
[07:32] <DarwinSurvivor> joshuasm32: have you tried accessing the drive from a recovery disk?
[07:33] <jamwat> The disk's encrypted DarwinSurvivor.
[07:33] <jamwat> Can you decrypt it?
[07:33] <jamwat> with the recovery disk?
[07:33] <DarwinSurvivor> jamwat: yes, it should prompt you for the password when you try to mount it from the live-cd
[07:34] <jamwat> Okay, Thanks DarwinSurvivor
[07:34] <Rohan_14> does "sudo -i" works on every linux distro ?
[07:34] <jamwat> Yes
[07:34] <joshuasm32> i don't have a recovery disk
[07:34] <joshuasm32> just a pw
[07:34] <jamwat> Make one. :P
[07:34] <joshuasm32> how?
[07:34] <EriC^^> Rohan_14: if sudo is installed, yes
[07:34] <smacktalk> so I have 4 x 1 T hard drives in a case and I'd like to convert it to an ubuntu studio system....is there a way to make the spare drives accessible to the network as a share?
[07:34] <joshuasm32> its locke
[07:34] <joshuasm32> *locked
[07:34] <EriC^^> Rohan_14: if not use su -c "<command>"
[07:35] <jamwat> Put ubuntu on a spare USB disk, and boot it up in live mode on the locked up machine.
[07:35] <Rohan_14> EriC^^: su works on every linux distro ?
[07:35] <jamwat> Yes Rohan_14
[07:35] <paranoidandroid> live mode?
[07:35] <EriC^^> Rohan_14: yeah it should
[07:35] <paranoidandroid> oh!
[07:36] <Rohan_14> EriC^^: :)
[07:36] <EriC^^> Rohan_14: if you want a shell, su -
[07:36] <paranoidandroid> so shoud I install the os to a disk or use try ubuntu from a usb?
[07:36] <paranoidandroid> already have 2 usb installers, one 32bit the other 64, could i use the try ubuntu thing or should i install it to the usb?
[07:36] <paranoidandroid> (no disk drive)
[07:36] <jamwat> use "Try before installing"
[07:36] <jamwat> or whatever it's called.
[07:37] <paranoidandroid> and then fix the file?
[07:37] <jamwat> Yes.
[07:37] <paranoidandroid> wow that is an amazing idea
[07:37] <EriC^^> Rohan_14: :)
[07:37] <jamwat> It was DarwinSurvivor's idea. Thank him.
[07:37] <DarwinSurvivor> smacktalk: what operating systems would you like to share them with?
[07:38] <paranoidandroid> at school ubuntu is black market
[07:38] <paranoidandroid> loan the drives after school
[07:38] <paranoidandroid> to dual boot the notebook provided
[07:38] <paranoidandroid> ^^
[07:38] <paranoidandroid> keep them nice and handy
[07:38] <smacktalk> I'd like to share with a windows desktop
[07:39] <jamwat> Apparently, it will prompt you for the decryption password when you try to mount it in "live" android. paranoidandroid.
[07:39] <lolbox> i've disabled swappiness to see if the screen freezing goes away
[07:39] <jamwat> Oops "live" ubuntu
[07:39] <paranoidandroid> (Paranoid Android is a Radiohead track)
[07:40] <jamwat> And a android rom. :P
[07:41] <paranoidandroid> oh neat
[07:41] <jamwat> Anyway paranoidandroid, it should be pretty easy to fix the LightDM config once you mount the encrypted drive.
[07:42] <daftykins> smacktalk: samba.
[07:42] <DarwinSurvivor> !samba
[07:42] <DarwinSurvivor> smacktalk: ^^
[07:42] <paranoidandroid> oh i have grub access
[07:43] <DarwinSurvivor> smacktalk: you want "samba file server" from the second link
[07:43] <jamwat> paranoidandroid, apparently there is a "'default" lightdm.conf at /usr/share/doc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.gz
[07:43] <jamwat> compresssed obviously.
[07:43] <smacktalk> ok so I just go ahead and install ubuntu studio...and set up samba after?
[07:44] <daftykins> smacktalk: no idea why you want studio, but sure.
[07:44] <smacktalk> there's no special way to set up the directories
[07:44] <DarwinSurvivor> smacktalk: pretty much
[07:44] <paranoidandroid> ah damn ubuntu can't find it
[07:44] <DarwinSurvivor> smacktalk: what do you mean by "special way"?
[07:44] <paranoidandroid> replaced my acer boot maneu
[07:44] <paranoidandroid> device not listed
[07:44] <smacktalk> why wouldn't I want studio, it's got all the art programs..photography
[07:45] <paranoidandroid> sorry ignore me
[07:45] <EriC^^> Swiftrider you good?
[07:45] <paranoidandroid> going on and on
[07:45] <SavKobani> hi
[07:45] <jamwat> paranoidandroid, the bios isn't finding the USB stick?
[07:45] <daftykins> smacktalk: because i can't read minds and had no idea you desire such things.
[07:45] <paranoidandroid> nope
[07:45] <DarwinSurvivor> smacktalk: actually, I think the newer Ubuntu versions may have it built right in. http://www.7tutorials.com/how-access-ubuntu-shared-folders-windows-7
[07:45] <SavKobani> is there a way to undelete a file i did rm -rf on?
[07:45] <EriC^^> How do you tab complete on a phone?
[07:45] <daftykins> DarwinSurvivor: yep and it fails right out of the box!
[07:45] <paranoidandroid> trying to use advanced options mode to see if it works
[07:45] <niLuvU> guys I want to convert all my office files from .docx/.doc to .odt/ODF; about 1000 files ; What to do ?
[07:45] <DarwinSurvivor> smacktalk: you should be able to just right-click the folder and set up sharing (never done it that my myself though)
[07:46] <daftykins> SavKobani: nope. unless you start messing with data recovery programs, but you'll need to reboot immediately and use a live session for that
[07:47] <paranoidandroid> hmm i have a cmd now
[07:47] <smacktalk> oh....hopefully it'll have the individual drives listed and I can just right click and share
[07:47] <paranoidandroid> would it be possible to fix it from here?
[07:47] <jamwat> Where exactly is the command line. On the broken install?
[07:47] <paranoidandroid> yes
[07:47] <daftykins> smacktalk: only if you mount them somewhere during the install, maybe to /media/disk1 /media/disk2 etc
[07:47] <paranoidandroid> i used advanced options i'm so stupid
[07:48] <paranoidandroid> i'm really sorry to
[07:48] <jamwat> The same install that was "locked"
[07:48] <paranoidandroid> *too
[07:48] <jamwat> ?
[07:48] <paranoidandroid> the boot cmd was locked
[07:48] <DarwinSurvivor> smacktalk: not quite. In linux the drives are mounted to folders, you'll want to share those folders (very similar concept though)
[07:48] <paranoidandroid> was too stupid to hit f12 and use advanced mode
[07:48] <jamwat> Okay.
[07:48] <paranoidandroid> if you have reddit, i can give u gold
[07:48] <paranoidandroid> so sorry
[07:48] <jamwat> Me?
[07:48] <paranoidandroid> yeah
[07:49] <paranoidandroid> is is possible to fix LightDM from cmd?
[07:49] <smacktalk> hopefully it's straight forward in the install
[07:49] <paranoidandroid> in the broken machine?
[07:49] <jamwat> Of course I use reddit. I don't expect gold though.
[07:49] <jamwat> :P
[07:49] <DarwinSurvivor> smacktalk: so you'll want to make the mounts permanently ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions ), then share the folders where you mounted them (ex: /mnt/drive1, etc)
[07:49]  * paranoidandroid will find you /:D
[07:49] <paranoidandroid> srs tho
[07:50] <jamwat> If you want to stalk me paranoidandroid, I'm /u/-jimmyrustles
[07:50] <DarwinSurvivor> smacktalk: just be careful during the install not to wipe out the data on your other drives (make sure you install to the right one!)
[07:50] <Stainedhat> so, does anyone know of a way to turn off suspend in 14.04 server?
[07:50] <DarwinSurvivor> Stainedhat: server edition shouldn't suspend by default
[07:50] <jamwat> Can't believe I'm giving people my reddit account. :P
[07:50] <smacktalk> would I be able to make two of the drives into a raid configuration?
[07:50] <DarwinSurvivor> Stainedhat: was this an original server install, or a desktop install converted to server?
[07:51] <smacktalk> there's no data...they're wiped
[07:51] <paranoidandroid> lol
[07:51] <Stainedhat> DarwinSurvivor: hmm yeah thats what I though but I have a vm that was a server edition install and it keeps turning off display and networking after a while
[07:51] <DarwinSurvivor> smacktalk: yes, you should be able to do that, but you'll need some knowledge of disk partitioning. Chose "advanced" when the installer asks about partitions
[07:51] <paranoidandroid> so from cmd...
[07:51] <jamwat> paranoidandroid, this "cmd"; is it grub, ubuntu, usb ubuntu? what?
[07:52] <paranoidandroid> i ran advanced options and loaded it
[07:52] <paranoidandroid> on the normal ubuntu
[07:52] <paranoidandroid> didn't think of using it before
[07:52] <jamwat> Okay. Fantastic!
[07:52] <Stainedhat> DarwinSurvivor: I tried acpi=off from grub but it broke lvm and coulnd't find the vg
[07:52] <lolbox> my screen froze again :(
[07:52] <paranoidandroid> root@devicename:~#
[07:52] <DarwinSurvivor> Stainedhat: what vm are you using? (virtualbox, vmware, etc?)
[07:53] <jamwat> paranoidandroid, the corrupted file is /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf?
[07:53] <Stainedhat> DarwinSurvivor: Virtualbox
[07:53] <paranoidandroid> yes
[07:54] <lolbox> idk what to do with there damn screen freezes,they just come up randomly
[07:54] <Stainedhat> DarwinSurvivor: I poked around looking for anything that would cause it in VB but couldn't find anything
[07:54] <jamwat>  do you see output when you type "zcat /usr/share/doc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.gz"
[07:54] <DarwinSurvivor> Stainedhat: did you install any power management stuff after the initial install?
[07:55] <Apachez> anyone who knows why "fstrim -v /" still reports shitloads of data even if I have mounted my partitions with the discard flag set? (running ubuntu 14.10)
[07:55] <Stainedhat> DarwinSurvivor: no, just apache, php and that was pretty much about it
[07:55] <Aaron> i have a question how come my bluetooth disappear all of the sudden?
[07:55] <paranoidandroid> yes
[07:55] <DarwinSurvivor> Stainedhat: does it respond to pings when the display turns off?
[07:56] <jamwat> good, paranoidandroid.
[07:56] <paranoidandroid> ah could use cd
[07:56] <paranoidandroid> (don't know how tho lol)
[07:56] <Stainedhat> DarwinSurvivor: no it's basically like the machine is off. Cannot ping it and apache does not respond. It's like the network service is going into powersave
[07:56]  * paranoidandroid == ultra-hyper-newb
[07:57] <Stainedhat> DarwinSurvivor: as soon as I click in the VB window and ping another server it comes back up after about 2-3 sec
[07:57] <lolbox> should i install nvidia-331 updates or the tested one,because i am trying to fix my screen freeze problem
[07:57] <jamwat> paranoidandroid, can you type this: "rm /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf"
[07:57] <Apachez> lolbox: I used the regular 331 suggested by additional drivers
[07:57] <Apachez> lolbox: that is not the nvidia-updated
[07:58] <lolbox> i have a stupid optimus laptop with nvidia-prime installed
[07:58] <jamwat> paranoidandroid, "zcat /usr/share/doc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.gz > /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf"
[07:58] <Apachez> lolbox: also make sure that you in your antialias settings (and perhaps also anistrotphic) use "let app decide"
[07:58] <paranoidandroid> read-only system
[07:58] <jamwat> okay.
[07:58] <paranoidandroid> it says when running the rm
[07:58] <Apachez> lolbox: several steam games will start with only black screen if you force antialias
[07:58] <lolbox> and every now and then i get those random screen freezing
[07:58] <jamwat> type "mount -o rw, remount /"
[07:58] <lolbox> *freezes
[07:58] <jamwat> paranoidandroid,
[07:59] <DarwinSurvivor> Stainedhat: are theer any relevant entries in /var/log/messages?
[07:59] <lolbox> by freezes i mean my mouse gets stuck and i have to switch to a tty
[07:59] <lolbox> than back to the x server
[07:59] <jamwat> paranoidandroid, did the mount command work?
[07:59] <paranoidandroid> in the usb thing?
[08:00] <jamwat> In the "root@devicename:~#" cmd
[08:00] <jamwat> can you rm the lightdm.conf file now?
[08:00] <Stainedhat> DarwinSurvivor: well, one thing i just noticed when issuing a dmesg right after it "woke up" is "plymouth-upstart-bridge main process ended, respawning"
[08:01] <paranoidandroid> it says it is a read-only system
[08:01] <paranoidandroid> i decrypted it
[08:02] <jamwat> paranoidandroid, can you post the output of "fdisk -l" (without disconnecting :) )
[08:02] <DarwinSurvivor> Stainedhat: that error could be unrelated
[08:02] <DarwinSurvivor> Stainedhat: are there any time-stamped around the time when the network connection goes down?
[08:03] <niLuvU> ok
[08:03] <paranoidandroid> invalid operation
[08:03] <paranoidandroid> gives usage stuff
[08:04] <jamwat> Okay.
[08:04] <jamwat> Can you type "sudo mount -o remount,rw /" again?
[08:04] <paranoidandroid> done
[08:05] <paranoidandroid> no output...
[08:05] <jamwat> good.
[08:05] <paranoidandroid> now try it?
[08:05] <ForExampleJohn> hi all
[08:05] <jamwat> paranoidandroid, can you run  "rm /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf"
[08:05] <ForExampleJohn> i need some direction please
[08:05] <jamwat> ?
[08:05] <ForExampleJohn> im lost
[08:05] <Viking667> north
[08:06] <paranoidandroid> yes but no output
[08:06] <Stainedhat> DarwinSurvivor: well, i do see some messages about eth0 link is not ready but thats for IPv6 then right after that snd_intel8x0 can't find IRQ for PCI INT A; probably buggy MP table.. followed by a block f apparmor messages about dhclient and netowkr manager
[08:06] <jamwat> good.
[08:06] <jamwat> paranoidandroid, now run "zcat /usr/share/doc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.gz > /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf"
[08:06] <ForExampleJohn> trying to find a nokia support channel, so sorry to be asking this here
[08:06] <ForExampleJohn> but im just stuck in the wrong channels all the time
[08:06] <Viking667> Ahhhhh. This isn't a nokia support channel. Nothing like it, in fact.
[08:07] <Stainedhat> DarwinSurvivor: it doesn't seem right though because I am specifying everything via a static entyr in /etc/network/interfaces
[08:07] <Stainedhat> *entry
[08:07] <ForExampleJohn> yeah i know, but do you have any idea what one is called?
[08:07] <paranoidandroid> done!
[08:07] <jamwat> Good.
[08:07] <paranoidandroid> now just reboot and cross my fingers?
[08:07] <Svetlana> ForExampleJohn: hi! what specifically about nokia are you looking for help with? software? hardware? what software or what hardware?
[08:07] <jamwat> not yet.
[08:07] <Viking667> I have no idea why nokia would even have a IRC support channel.
[08:07] <DarwinSurvivor> Stainedhat: hmm, unfortunately I'm running out of ideas
[08:08] <Viking667> but... that aside, what issue are you having with your Nokia?
[08:08] <DarwinSurvivor> Darkvapour: the only thing I can think of is that the screen and network issues *may* be unrelated
[08:08] <jamwat> can you verify that "cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf" and "zcat /usr/share/doc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.gz" produce the SAME output?
[08:08] <ForExampleJohn> Viking, you are a legend
[08:08] <DarwinSurvivor> Stainedhat: sorry, Darkvapour's message was for you
[08:08] <Stainedhat> DarwinSurvivor:  yeah same here.. Google is not being helpful for once either. i'm gonna tail -F the dmesg log and see if I see anything when it "sleeps"
[08:08] <paranoidandroid> yes.
[08:08] <paranoidandroid> good?
[08:08] <ForExampleJohn> I have nokia suite installed on pc, but it doesn't want to connect to the web
[08:08] <jamwat> Try rebooting.
[08:09] <jamwat> And cross your fingers :D
[08:09] <DarwinSurvivor> Stainedhat: I think server mode *will* turn off the screen after a while (but just the screen).
[08:09] <paranoidandroid> crossing all fingers at once
[08:09] <paranoidandroid> looks kind of like spok
[08:09] <Stainedhat> DarwinSurvivor: hmmm possibly.. I wonder if network manager is trying to conflict with my static entry somehow
[08:09] <ForExampleJohn> trying to update software on my mobile
[08:09] <DarwinSurvivor> Stainedhat: if network manager is fighting with /etc/network/interfaces, that could potentially cause periodic issues, try disabling network manager and see if that resolves anything
[08:10] <paranoidandroid> aw crap have to enter encryption pw
[08:10] <Stainedhat> DarwinSurvivor: I admittedly didn't rtfm and just did my entry the old fashioned way.. lemme try that, thanks!
[08:10] <paranoidandroid> with fingers crossed
[08:10] <paranoidandroid> can it be done?
[08:10] <jamwat> Hopefully.
[08:11] <DarwinSurvivor> Stainedhat: no problem, I've got to go now unfortunately, but I wish you luck in your hunt
[08:11] <paranoidandroid> yyyeyeyeyeyeyeyeeyeseeesssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:11] <paranoidandroid> BOOOOMM!
[08:11] <paranoidandroid> gold is on the way sir
[08:11] <Stainedhat> DarwinSurvivor: No worries, thanks for talkign through it with me
[08:12] <jamwat> I found your reddit account
[08:12] <jamwat> http://www.reddit.com/user/Joshuasm32
[08:12] <jamwat> :D
[08:12] <paranoidandroid> haha
[08:12] <paranoidandroid> yes
[08:12] <paranoidandroid> gotten attached to that one
[08:12] <jamwat> If you don't feel like giving gold that's okay.
[08:12] <DarwinSurvivor> Stainedhat: one last hint. If you suspect unwanted suspending, run "watch 'date >> ~/log.txt'" and look for gaps in the timestamps
[08:12] <paranoidandroid> paranoidandroid is just to keep evil gamers off my back
[08:12] <paranoidandroid> its okay i'm guilder
[08:13] <jamwat> :D
[08:13] <paranoidandroid> see the classy trophy?
[08:13] <paranoidandroid> :D
[08:13] <paranoidandroid> one last thing before i go @everyone
[08:13] <paranoidandroid> is there a package that improves touch support in ubuntu?
[08:13] <jamwat> I don't think there's one that "improves" it.
[08:13] <Stainedhat> DarwinSurvivor: looks like nm isn't even installed so I may need to look elsewhere. I'll try echoing the date to the log and see if I see gaps. I guess that could tell me whether it's network or system. thanks
[08:14] <paranoidandroid> windows was full of gestures and there were ring around the places where there were taps
[08:14] <paranoidandroid> ubuntu is pathetic in that aspect, only tap for click is supported
[08:15] <DarwinSurvivor> paranoidandroid: the synaptics packages do all kinds of amazing magic
[08:15] <paranoidandroid> i looked around different results for touch
[08:15] <paranoidandroid> no luck so far...
[08:15] <DarwinSurvivor> paranoidandroid: for instance, I can scroll indefinitely by running my finger in a circle around the touchpad like an old-school iPod
[08:16] <DarwinSurvivor> paranoidandroid: wow, seeing the words "old-school iPod" makes me feel old :(
[08:16] <paranoidandroid> wow!
[08:16] <paranoidandroid> oh no i have one
[08:16] <jamwat> me too!
[08:16] <paranoidandroid> the only apple product i would not burn
[08:16] <paranoidandroid> do you guys have rockbox on it?
[08:16] <paranoidandroid> its an open sourced os
[08:17] <paranoidandroid> for ipod classic/90% of media players
[08:17] <jamwat> Nope. doesn't support iPod Nano 4th gen.
[08:17] <paranoidandroid> there is a port i think
[08:17] <paranoidandroid> i had to use emcore
[08:17] <paranoidandroid> a custom boot thing
[08:17] <paranoidandroid> and use another person's precious time in an irc :)
[08:17] <paranoidandroid> some terminal comands did it
[08:18] <daftykins> lets try and stay on topic peeps, if not there's always #ubuntu-offtopic for all your rambling needs (:
[08:18] <jamwat> Anyway paranoidandroid, thanks for being patient with me :P
[08:18] <paranoidandroid> a port is here: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodNano4GPort
[08:18] <paranoidandroid> now i'm done
[08:18] <paranoidandroid> oh no!
[08:18] <paranoidandroid> thanks for being patient with me
[08:19] <paranoidandroid> can't get gold right now, will tho srslyu
[08:19] <paranoidandroid> *srsly
[08:19] <jamwat> Thank you. I really appreciate it.
[08:19] <paranoidandroid> @darwinsurvivor what package did the scrollwheel thing?
[08:19] <paranoidandroid> that sounds amazing
[08:19] <lolbox> so is there any way to fix the screen freezing,i cannot watch videos or play games
[08:20] <lolbox> idk what is happening
[08:21] <DarwinSurvivor> paranoidandroid: My laptop runs arch ( https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics ), but the package should be available somewhere for Ubuntu as well
[08:21] <paranoidandroid> ah
[08:21] <paranoidandroid> okay, one last thing sorry guys
[08:21] <jamwat> Yeah?
[08:21] <paranoidandroid> on any ubuntu install i use, there are about 4 system error warnings
[08:21] <paranoidandroid> and one that comes 5 min after
[08:21] <paranoidandroid> is this normal?
[08:22] <daftykins> lolbox: what card?
[08:22] <paranoidandroid> maybe its a package i use
[08:22] <lolbox> 720m with optimus
[08:22] <lolbox> i have nvidia prime on
[08:22] <daftykins> lolbox: tried bumblebee?
[08:22] <lolbox> and nvidia 331
[08:22] <jamwat> type "sudo nano /etc/defaults/apport"
[08:22] <paranoidandroid> (warnings are on startup)
[08:22] <daftykins> paranoidandroid: it would be great if you could cut down on the spam by pressing enter less.
[08:22] <lolbox> i didn't try bumblebee yet
[08:22] <paranoidandroid> haha okay i will try to make longer messages :)
[08:23] <Name141> Is there a way to stop the 14.04 LTS reminder in 12.04 ?
[08:23] <jamwat> paranoidandroid, there should be a file called something like apport.conf in /etc/defaults
[08:23] <daftykins> lolbox: it's a worthy plan
[08:23] <lolbox> installing gnome shell currently to see if it is because of compiz
[08:23] <jamwat> Name141, go into the dash, type "Software and Updates" and select it
[08:24] <Name141> Also, how long does 12.04 have anyway?
[08:24] <paranoidandroid> the file is empty... just like that last one i tried editing!  I think i'll hold off for now XD
[08:24] <jamwat> There should be something about notifying about new versions. Select do not ask me
[08:25] <paranoidandroid> got to go, thanks for the help and for putting up with my excessive posting
[08:25] <Name141> Alright, I'll do that after the apt-get distro-upgrade is done installing
[08:25] <jamwat> Name141,  2017-04-26 is when support stops
[08:25] <cfhowlett> Name141, distro-upgrade??? or dist-upgrade
[08:25] <daftykins> Name141: it's dist-upgrade :P
[08:26] <Name141> ..yeah that
[08:26] <Name141> I installed 14.04 and it ran the tiny 8 GB hard drive out of space.
[08:26] <jamwat> Okay guys, I'm leaving now. I'll see you all again sometime.
[08:27] <cfhowlett> Name141, yep. should have gone with something lighter: lubuntu or xubuntu.
[08:27] <Name141> cfhowlett: I was lucky I found that on a CD to bring that machine back to life.
[08:27] <Name141> and that I had a hard drive in an old DISHNetwork DVR
[08:27] <Name141> that still worked after 10 years
[08:27] <cfhowlett> Name141, dude!  you got hacker skillz!
[08:28] <Name141> cfhowlett: I now miss all my WebTV friends I used to talk to on that DISHNetwork Player :(
[08:28] <Name141> and WCW..
[08:28] <Name141> I remember pausing Mondy Night Nitro
[08:28] <Name141> Monday*
[08:28] <Name141> but yeah anyway
[08:29] <introom> hi. a little bit ot. How can I set twitter to send *all* the tweets from users I followed to my mailbox?
[08:29] <introom> via some webapp or some local script are all welcome.
[08:30] <lolbox> i am back after installing gnome shell
[08:31] <lolbox> going to try playing a video to see if it freezes again
[08:46] <xjanec25> [A
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[08:49] <raidensnake> does anyone know why IP tables doesn't save the configuration when it reboots
[08:49] <raidensnake> iptables*
[08:50] <raidensnake> I keep losing my configuration
[08:50] <OerHeks> raidensnake, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo#Saving_iptables
[08:51] <magnulu> hello - I am trying to set up squeezeslave on 14.04 (more or less clean install), and somehow it has broken my audio!
[08:51] <magnulu> I can't see anything in the syslog
[08:51] <magnulu> what to do, from your point of view? I am at a loss on where to start looking
[08:54] <clone1> hii
[08:54] <raidensnake> this is the problem the file is there but every time it reboots the settings aren't being applied
[08:54] <OerHeks> magnulu, if i look at the downloadsite, squeezeslave is discontinued and now they make squeezeline ?https://code.google.com/p/squeezeslave/downloads/list
[08:55] <clone1> want help- i want to know how to start with my own linux distro
[08:56] <daftykins> clone1: this is a support channel for ubuntu, not making your own :)
[08:56] <daftykins> clone1: try ##linux perhaps
[08:56] <OerHeks> raidensnake, it is all there, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo#Configuration_on_startup
[09:01] <raidensnake> that doesn't help as there's only a single file with the settings.
[09:02] <raidensnake> all I have is /etc/iptables.rules
[09:13] <Lxus> Anyone know the command to make my home folder non private? need to get some files from my home folder onto my windows drive.
[09:14] <Lxus> have ext3/4 drivers installed and able to access the disk, but the home folders encrypted/private to protect my data apparently
[09:15] <Ben64> Lxus: what is in your home folder
[09:18] <alice_littleu> rhythem box cannot add music(mp3) to it,what should i do
[09:18] <Lxus> Ben64: Some games i installed via POL, i wanna move them to my windows drive so i don't have to redownload/reinstall when i change my linux distro
[09:21] <lapion> hello..
[09:21] <lapion> I have been having problem with utopic and usb3.0 harddrive
[09:23] <sacarlson> lapion: I think I already saw a bug filed on the kernel on utopic for usb3.0 problem,  if you want to add to it you may
[09:24] <Lxus> Ben64: any ideas?
[09:25] <Ben64> Lxus: i mean what do you see when you open your home folder in windows
[09:26] <Lxus> Ben64: only one document saying my home is unmountable to access my data, but i recall a command to make the folder public and mountable i just cant remember where or what it is
[09:27] <OerHeks> Lxus decrypting your home is a lot of work, i would make a folder under /opt/ to share with windows
[09:28] <Ben64> Lxus: well you can't do that in windows
[09:28] <raidensnake> had no choice but to edit the /etc/sysconfig/firewall to make the changes permenant
[09:28] <raidensnake> at least it worked
[09:29] <Lxus> Ben64: you can i've done it before i just can't remember where i seen it or how to do it. >.<
[09:30] <lapion> sacarlson, the only bugreport I found was from someone that problems with a usb3 device and decided to try it under a live disc
[09:30] <Lxus> OerHeks: good idea never even thought of that.
[09:30] <Lxus> Kudos :)
[09:30] <lapion> sacarlson, my bug is only with utopic
[09:31] <Ben64> Lxus: i really doubt there is a way to decrypt a linux home from windows
[09:32] <sacarlson> lapion: I see many bugs on usb3.0 including intel hardware bug that requires chip mask changes for failure to recover from suspend.  so best be more specific as to what problem and on what version of kernel
[09:32] <thanosme> hello everyone. I have installed ubuntu 14.04 and I have a problem with the mouse. It double clicks at random times and I cant control it
[09:32] <thanosme> Is there a fix to this?
[09:33] <chettikandathil> is there any way to find the target of a symlink?
[09:33] <daftykins> chettikandathil: yeah "ls -l" in its' path
[09:33] <daftykins> should show up
[09:35] <sacarlson> lapion: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1358871
[09:35] <fingertips> How do I create a ppp interface on server?
[09:35] <chettikandathil> is it necessary to give the full path when a symlink is made using ln -s?
[09:36] <chettikandathil> or can i do like ln -s ./abc ~/abc
[09:37] <Ben64> chettikandathil: you should use full paths
[09:38] <daftykins> absolute references are better than relative references
[09:38] <chettikandathil> Ben64, daftykins thanks
[09:39] <Lxus> Ben64: No not from windows you decrypt on linux then when you mount the drive on windows its mounted
[09:45] <magnulu> OerHeks: yep
[09:46] <chettikandathil> i added a symlink successfully to /usr/bin . which points to an executable. however i don't get bash completion for the command. is there any extra procedure to get bash completion on an entry on /usr/bin ?
[09:47] <daftykins> chettikandathil: check permissions and ownership, also be sure you restart the terminal for completions sake
[09:49] <sacarlson> chettikandathil: bash completion?  it does start?
[09:50] <sacarlson> chettikandathil: the file would also require to be set executable but I should assume you already did that
[09:55] <chettikandathil> sacarlson, yeah. the symlink path was relative. fixed it and it works now. but don't know why it show any error first time. maybe bash_completion ate it.
[09:56] <sacarlson> chettikandathil: cool then it works now so don't swet it
[09:56] <daftykins> chettikandathil: lol, but we told you not to do it relative...
[09:57] <sacarlson> chettikandathil: ya the told you
[09:57] <chettikandathil> yeah. it was an older symlink.