[12:18] <RamiC> Can you let me know how I can go about doing that?
[12:18] <penos> hi brothers
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> RamiC: check software sources/last tab additional drivers
[12:21] <erimo> hello
[12:22] <Krishnamurti> which distribution　is fit to install on usb device?
[12:23] <MonkeyDust> Krishnamurti  who are you talking to?
[12:23] <Rory> !ot | Krishnamurti
[12:23] <Krishnamurti> all of you
[12:23] <Gallomimia> ubuntu is
[12:24] <MonkeyDust> Krishnamurti  try Ubuntu, it's a nice distro and the only one supported here
[12:24] <Krishnamurti> thanks
[12:25] <RamiC> lotuspsychje: My NVIDIA driver is using an alternative dirver (x.org x server)
[12:25] <RamiC> do I change to the binary driver?
[12:31] <erimo> hello anyone
[12:32] <MonkeyDust> erimo  hello, how can we help you?
[12:37] <sarvsav> Hi everyone
[12:37] <sarvsav> i am using imagemagick tool
[12:37] <sarvsav> to convert png image to bmp
[12:37] <sarvsav> png image size = 62kb after conversion its size increased to 25 MB
[12:38] <sarvsav> could someone please help
[12:38] <RamiC> Hello, my Ubuntu 14.04 is overheatring when I just installed it on my hp pavillion dv6. I have 2 graphic cards, Nvidia and Intel 3rd core. How should I proceed?
[12:39] <g105b> I've installed chromium-browser as my default web browser, but when I click a link in another application, a new window of chromium-browser opens, without navigating to the page. I have to copy/paste the link into the omnibox... any ideas of how to fix this? (tried reinstalling, removing .config/Chromium)
[12:45] <RamiC> Hello, my Ubuntu 14.04 is overheatring when I just installed it on my hp pavillion dv6. I have 2 graphic cards, Nvidia and Intel 3rd core. How should I proceed?
[12:46] <jnoob22> RamiC, you're getting this with a specific OS? or just any?
[12:47] <jnoob22> if not, it's time to get a new fan.
[12:47] <philinux> ubuntu 14.04 firefox always starts on ubuntu start page instead of tabs open from last session . anyone else seeing this
[12:48] <MonkeyDust> philinux  change it in the FF settings
[12:48] <philinux> MonkeyDust;~ its set to windows and tabs from last time
[12:48] <OerHeks> RamiC, might have to do with installing drivers, no fan without? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics
[12:49] <jnoob22> RamiC, how did you know it was over-heating?
[12:49] <jnoob22> RamiC, which monitoring app did you use?
[12:50] <Armag3dd0n1> just updated every computer/laptop in my house to ubuntu :) yay me!
[12:50] <philinux> MonkeyDust;~ but always goes to homepage
[12:51] <Pessimist> RamiC: you should turn off the indepent (I think that's the word) graphics card when you are not using it
[12:51] <trijntje> Armag3dd0n1: congratulations ;)
[12:51] <RamiC> I used the sensors command, it got to 88degrees so I turned it off a bit for now
[12:51] <RamiC> indepent is the nvidia or the intel one?
[12:52] <jackbrown> is there a way to set a program to auto restart when it crashes ?
[12:52] <RamiC> When I went to additionmal drivers, I saw that the nvidia is using the xserver driver
[12:53] <Armag3dd0n1> thank you :p
[12:53] <Armag3dd0n1> ubuntu is a lot faster as a OS on desktops and laptops IMO
[12:53] <MonkeyDust> philinux  not sure what causes it
[12:54] <philinux> MonkeyDust;~ have you had firefox doing this too?
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> philinux  it says here "save & quit"
[12:56] <icsu> is TrueCrypt dead?
[12:56] <philinux> MonkeyDust;~ not seen save and quit anywhere. when does that message pop up
[12:57] <philinux> this is FF 29
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> philinux  with two tabs open, when i close FF
[12:58] <philinux> MonkeyDust;~ just quits here no message
[13:00] <MonkeyDust> philinux  top right: the 3 horizontal line icon > preferences > tabs
[13:00] <foolhardy> I'm attemping to mount a local drive to use for storage.
 mount -t ext /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sdb1
 the partition type os "linux filesystem"
 what should I be using in place of ext?
[13:00] <MonkeyDust> foolhardy  use a pastebin, please
[13:00] <gts> hey guys
[13:00] <RamiC> jnoob22: any idea?
[13:01] <MonkeyDust> foolhardy  or keep your question in 1 line
[13:01] <foolhardy> http://pastebin.com/k4E112RB
[13:01] <philinux> MonkeyDust;~ i've got that warning unticked so that explain why no message
[13:01] <philinux> thats default i think
[13:01] <jnoob22> RamiC, unfortunately when it comes to video drivers causing a meltdown, i'm at a loss.
[13:02] <RamiC> Oerheks: How should I proceed? Do I update the drivers?
[13:02] <MonkeyDust> philinux  it's what you looked for?
[13:02] <RamiC> jnoob22: no problem, thanks for the help
[13:03] <philinux> MonkeyDust;~ i'll tick it and give it a whirl
[13:03] <theos> hi all! network manager cant establish a wired connection but works fine with wireless. both are from the same router. wired connection works fine on other pc. please help!
[13:04] <foolhardy> http://pastebin.com/9LaDPP2C
[13:04] <theos> i am using 10.04
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> theos  what's the output of    ifconfig         use a pastebin to show it to the channel
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> ah, 10.04
[13:05] <theos> MonkeyDust, eth0 is up but no ipv4 addr
[13:06] <theos> dhclient doesnt seem to find connection either
[13:14] <RamiC> How do I turn off my Nvidia graphics card in Ubuntu 14.04?
[13:16] <konadr> im trying to run apt-get -y upgrade from a server via a cron job, it just prompts for confirmation, I have tried setting DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive but it doesn't seem to work
[13:18] <trndr> konadr, shouldn't it be apt-get upgrade -y  ?
[13:19] <MonkeyDust> was thinking the same thing
[13:19] <konadr> i seem to find differing accounts online trndr, lots of people seem to say the other way around, il try it anyway to see
[13:22] <rmoore> Is it strange that I'm not seeing any performance difference between Unity and XFCE (Xubuntu)?
[13:22] <rmoore> I'm running a 5 year old first gen Intel dual core laptop with 4 gb of ram.
[13:23] <trndr> konadr, according to man apt-get it should be -y upgrade, but upgrade -y worked for me. So the differing accounts make sense
[13:23] <MonkeyDust> rmoore  are they both fast or both slow?
[13:23] <rmoore> both slow
[13:24] <rmoore> well. not horribly slow
[13:24] <rmoore> just a bit slugish. especially with the Software Center
[13:24] <shunya_chakra> hi, i got youtube-dl version of 2nd month but on there site they also release the version of 5th.
[13:24] <shunya_chakra> how can i get htat
[13:24] <shunya_chakra> that
[13:24] <shunya_chakra> i mean update?
[13:25] <konadr> hmm same thing happens trndr, quite odd
[13:26] <trndr> konadr, you could try --yes, or piping yes into apt-get
[13:27] <pr3p> Helo
[13:27] <OerHeks> shunya_chakra, the version in softwarecenter is the latest, same as the site 14.05.19
[13:31] <Pici> 5/70
[13:31] <shunya_chakra> OerHeks, ok I installed it from terminal is now i need to rid out old version?
[13:33] <OerHeks> shunya_chakra, what old version? how did you install the previous one?
[13:33] <MonkeyDust> shunya_chakra  sudo apt-get autoremove
[13:33] <konadr> ya i was trying the pipe just now trndr to see if that ran
[13:34] <shunya_chakra> OerHeks, MonkeyDust nv, problem solved.. i used pip
[13:34] <shunya_chakra> thanks for help! :)
[13:34] <shunya_chakra> python is awesome it's got its on installing python packages
[13:38] <Armag3dd0n1> any idea when ubuntu will update xbmc in the software centre?
[13:38] <Armag3dd0n1> 13.0 is out but it's showing 12.3 still :/
[13:39] <smartin__> Hi All, OK I just installed ubuntu 14.04, I setup a root user (yes I know but my company requires it). I can su - to the root user with the password without issue. If I ssh as the root user I get password denied even though the password is the same as when i do a su -. I have confirmed that the sshd_config is not blocking the root user and /var/log/auth.log is saying I am entering the wrong password for root. I have done this at lea
[13:39] <smartin__> and I copy\paste the password and the password I enter via ssh is the same as when I do a su - but the ssh password does not work, any ideas?
[13:40] <trijntje> Armag3dd0n1: it won't, you'll have to wait untill the next version of ubuntu comes out
[13:40] <Armag3dd0n1> really?
[13:40] <Armag3dd0n1> wut
[13:40] <MonkeyDust> Armag3dd0n1  or use a PPA with the more recent version, but that's not supported here
[13:41] <user123321> Ok I have Windows 7. Using a partitional manager, I have formatted one partition with Ext3 and one "adjacent" area with Linux Swap. Now, should I use automatic or manual partitionaing when installing Ubuntu (dual boot)?
[13:41] <trijntje> Armag3dd0n1: thats the point, people work very hard to make sure the 60.000 or so packages you can install work together properly, and then again for newer versions in each release. It wouldn't be stable to continuously upgrade all programs all the time
[13:42] <MonkeyDust> user123321  manual if you know what you're doing
[13:42] <trijntje> user123321: delete the swap and ext3 partition, then choose 'automatic' during install
[13:42] <user123321> delete the partitions? ah.
[13:43] <trijntje> user123321: yes, the installer will automatically use the free space for ubuntu
[13:43] <user123321> Can I delete it using Ubuntu setup?
[13:43] <manaar333> salut tout le monde
[13:43] <trijntje> yes, if you select 'try ubuntu without installing', and then use gparted to delete the partitions
[13:43] <manaar333> where is the french server?
[13:43] <trijntje> !fr
[13:44] <user123321> hmm, so I'll make them unallocated space then?
[13:44] <user123321> I'll use the same partition manager then?
[13:45] <neurosnap> does gnome not work well with ubuntu+unity 14.04 lts?
[13:45] <smartin__> anyone on my auth issue?
[13:45] <trijntje> neurosnap: just install the gnome version of ubuntu, it should work fine
[13:45] <neurosnap> trijntje: that seems rather counter-intuitive to a linux based system
[13:46] <user123321> see ya, gonna instal Ubuntu :D
[13:46] <neurosnap> but is what people keep suggesting to me
[13:46] <user123321> install*
[13:47] <trijntje> neurosnap: I don't understand what you are saying, install the gnome version of ubuntu if you want to use gnome, what else do you want?
[13:47] <Armag3dd0n1> so basically i gotta wait? omg! oh well, I heard it's rubbish anyway :p
[13:47] <neurosnap> trijntje: i want to try multiple desktop environments, i dont want to reinstall a linux distro every time i wanna try a new DE
[13:48] <trijntje> neurosnap: you can install them side by side if you want, or try them out in virtualbox
[13:48] <WLM> neurosnap: do you want to use like Ubuntu, Xubuntu and Edubuntu?
[13:48] <WLM> Or other unofficial distros
[13:49] <neurosnap> WLM: i just want to try multiple DEs without reconfiguring my entire setup
[13:49] <WLM> Okay
[13:49] <WLM> That's possible.
[13:49] <WLM> I'm doing it
[13:49] <daftykins> smartin__: when you say you 'setup a root user' you mean you just created a password for root, correct?
[13:49] <neurosnap> WLM: the reason why im asking is because i just tried to install gnome and it didn't go so well
[13:49] <WLM> I'm currently using Xubuntu because Unity is broken, but I still have Ubuntu for when it may work agan
[13:50] <trijntje> neurosnap: which package did you install?
[13:50] <WLM> You can just do it from the software center. Everything worked for me
[13:50] <smartin__> yup and I ensured he was enabled as well, I have never seen anything like this and I have been using ubuntu for years.
[13:50] <trijntje> and what version of ubuntu are you using?
[13:50] <WLM> I installed the xubuntu-desktop package on my 14.04 and now I can run both Ubuntu and Xubuntu
[13:50] <WLM> So Unity and Xfce
[13:50] <neurosnap> trijntje: gnome-shell ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[13:50] <WLM> What happened when installing that?
[13:51] <neurosnap> WLM: it worked but all the windows would create a "dragging" effect that stuck to the screen
[13:51] <neurosnap> the only advice i got was to reinstall gnome
[13:51] <daftykins> smartin__: well, it's a shame to see the primary intention of ubuntu's setup be broken... but given you've already checked sshd's configuration for permitting root login and naturally you know the password and have tried combinations in case it's being picky about a given one - i've no extra ideas to add
[13:51] <trijntje> in gnome? That sounds like you dont have the proper drivers for your graphics card
[13:52] <dfcnvt> Is there a webpage explaining the meaning of each version/package in ubuntu? For example: lucid, precise, raring, saucy, trusty, utopic and each prefixes -updates, -backports
[13:52] <neurosnap> trijntje: it's possible, im running vmware
[13:52] <smartin__> daftykins: thanks it is really wierd I have never seen a password work via terminal and not work via ssh.
[13:52] <ciampix> hi. How to consult doc-base documentation? If I install git-doc for instance... it writes html files in /usr/share/doc-base but yelp do not see those files...
[13:52] <neurosnap> wmware fusion ontop of mac osx mavericks
[13:53] <bfilipescu> wois
[13:54] <daftykins> smartin__: and all the logs have to say is the password is wrong? :S
[13:54] <somsip> !info lua
[13:54] <smartin__> daftykins: the auth.log says the password is correct when I do a “su -“, when I ssh in it says the authentication faiilure for my user
[13:55] <somsip> !find liblua
[13:55] <daftykins> smartin__: ridiculous... but try ssh localhost :)
[13:55] <ike> just learned about this irc is this a good place to get help fixing technical issues
[13:55] <daftykins> ike: only if they relate to ubuntu, but yes
[13:55] <smartin__> daftykins: same issue with ssh localhost
[13:55] <MonkeyDust> ike  ask your question and wait
[13:56] <Pici> ike: If you have an Ubuntu question... yes.
[13:56] <shunya_chakra> best community!!!
[13:56] <ike> i have an issue with pipelight (the software for for watching netflix in a native browser could i et help with that
[13:56] <ciampix> mmm yelp seems to have nothing to do with doc-base.. Question: how to read doc-base doc in ubuntu
[13:57] <MonkeyDust> what's doc-base?
[13:57] <smartin__> daftykins: http://apaste.info/fKu the log for the working su - and the failing ssh at localhost
[13:57] <ciampix> apt-cache show doc-base
[13:57] <saleem> is there any way to disable google custom search on browsers in ubuntu?
[13:57] <ciampix> it is a standard for doc in html
[13:57] <ciampix> (Debian)
[13:58] <ciampix> there are some clients
[13:58] <daftykins> smartin__: i see it's using IPv6
[13:58] <smartin__> daftykins: would that cause this issue?
[13:58] <daftykins> smartin__: not a clue, but something that sticks out to me is all
[13:58] <trndr> smartin__, have you changed PermitRootLogin and removed root from DenyUsers in sshd_config?
[13:58] <ciampix> yelp (should) is (?) one
[13:58] <daftykins> smartin__: yeah pastebin sshd_config i bet there's a value in there somewhere
[13:59] <ciampix> maybe, I am not shure
[13:59] <ciampix> maybe, I am not sure
[13:59] <saleem> is there any way to disable google custom search on browsers in ubuntu? can someone please give me any fix for it?
[14:00] <smartin__> daftykins: no denyuser entrie at all permitroot is yes - http://apaste.info/9pv
[14:01] <trijntje> saleem: click on the little arrow next to the google icon to change it to something else
[14:02] <saleem> trijntje, i tried these fixes already but dont work https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/959463
[14:03] <trndr> smartin__, have you restarted sshd since the change in sshd_config?
[14:03] <smartin__> yup
[14:03] <classicthais> someone now the service of ubuntu that can shared the folder that devide by group and user?
[14:03] <classicthais> please recommend me.
[14:03] <smartin__> trndr: yup
[14:03] <smartin__> trndr: even confirmed a new timestamp on the service with ps
[14:04] <classicthais> That's service is SAMBA or Not?
[14:04] <trndr> smartin__, in that case it might be easier to beat common sense into your boss ;)
[14:04] <saleem> trijntje, your tip seems to be working thanks for it,hope it doesnt go back/revert to custome search later
[14:04] <smartin__> trndr: I wish, but this issue still seems like  a major flaw somewhere. Why on earth would the password work for terminal and not ssh?
[14:04] <daftykins> classicthais: what language do you speak? it might be better for you to find a local channel
[14:05] <classicthais> does it have thai channel?
[14:05] <MonkeyDust> !thai
[14:05] <classicthais> that talk about ubuntu.
[14:05] <trndr> smartin__, security, there is no reason to allow root login, so making it as hard as possible to enable makes sense
[14:06] <classicthais> I live in Thailand.
[14:06] <daftykins> !th
[14:06] <smartin__> trndr: I have done everything to enable it and it still does not work. It is saying the password is bad in the auth.log even thought it is correct. That does not make sense
[14:06] <daftykins> classicthais: ^ there you go
[14:07] <smartin__> trndr: maybe a different error is needed if this is trully a case of root being disabled somewhere else as the error point to a bad password
[14:07] <nikomx> Sup
[14:08] <smartin__> trndr: WOW, I have had a bash loop in the background for testing to see if the root user can login, it just did magically even though I did not change anything since it’s failed attempt….wierd!
[14:08] <sabbut> I don't know if this is the best place to ask. I recently bought a new graphics card for a fairly old computer (maybe 7 years old) with Ubuntu. Now the computer randomly freezes. I also get error messages while Ubuntu is loading, maybe something in the configuration may be the source of the problem?
[14:08] <bekks> sabbut: Which error messages?
[14:08] <xubuntu> hello friends
[14:08] <nikomx> Anyone reccomen a desktop that will run new vetsion of ubuntu for less then five hundref
[14:08] <bekks> !ot | nikomx
[14:08] <trndr> smartin__, funky, gratz.
[14:08] <nikomx> In store or online
[14:09] <bekks> nikomx: Both is offtopic in here.
[14:09] <nikomx> I have only a pthree dell dedktop
[14:09] <sabbut> bekks: something similar to what I see here: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=584275
[14:09] <smartin__> trndr: are there multiple authentication repos in 14.04?
[14:09] <sabbut> bekks: "cpufrequtils: ondemand CPUFreq governor not available"
[14:09] <Guest45646> get a cheap thinkcenter? (knows nothing about computers tbh)
[14:09] <nikomx> I use to run vesion seven to eleven
[14:09] <Guest45646> (i know nothing*)
[14:10] <nikomx> On one gig ram
[14:10] <trndr> smartin__, don't know TBH. Could it be you were blocked due to too many failed attempts?
[14:10] <MonkeyDust> nikomx  type /j #ubuntu-offtopic and ask there
[14:14] <daftykins> nikomx: lubuntu is your only bet, but i think it's too late to be trying to use a Pentium III in this day.
[14:17] <mjayk> Haya all I can access and open files stored on my USB stick via terminal but I get in the file manager, I can see the drive but get an I/O error when I try to open the folders any idea's?
[14:17] <mjayk> ubuntu 14.04 64 but
[14:17] <mjayk> *bit
[14:18] <ciampix> someone know how to read doc-base standard docs in ubuntu without searching manually /usr/share/doc-base ?
[14:21] <classicthais> I talk in #ubutntu-th , it don't have any person.
[14:21] <classicthais> I don't know to talk any one.
[14:22] <sabbut> classicthais: did you spell it correctly?
[14:22] <sabbut> #ubuntu-th
[14:22] <classicthais> correct.
[14:23] <MarcN> My mediascanner-service-2.0 process is eating u p cpu time. Where are the controls for it?  In fact what uses it?
[14:23] <daveb__> Can I some how add custom options to grub that set certain variables, and I can access those variables from upstart or a loginscript or something?
[14:23] <classicthais> a virtual software that can run or install windows os ?
[14:23] <classicthais> Virtual box or VMware  is better?
[14:24] <classicthais> please recommend me?
[14:24] <compdoc_> Virtualbox
[14:24] <MarcN> classicthais, I like VirtualBox and have used it for years.  Win7 runs fine in it and even with access to USB devices directly.
[14:25] <classicthais> It don't have VMware fusion that install in ubuntu?
[14:25] <classicthais> I understand the true information.
[14:27] <bekks> classicthais: vmware fusion is available for osx only. Just use virtualbox.
[14:28] <classicthais> Ok! I will download and install it for install windows 8.
[14:28] <mistawright> how can I tell distcc to use the arm gcc compiler i have installed?
[14:29] <classicthais> Someone  can recommend the service of ubuntu that can share the folder devide the access by group and user.
[14:29] <philipp__> Hallo leute
[14:29] <bekks> classicthais: What does that mean?
[14:29] <bekks> !de | philipp__
[14:31] <classicthais> Suppose that the folder name is engineer. It share for only the account that is member of engineer group.
[14:32] <classicthais> if I am the member of engineer group , I can access and delete or edit file inside engineer folder.
[14:32] <classicthais> My friend is not the member of engineer group, he can access but can't delete or edit.
[14:33] <classicthais> Someone recommend me about the service of ubuntu that do as my need.
[14:34] <ubuntuser13> classicthais: I think you are talking about file permissions .
[14:34] <classicthais> Yesh!
[14:34] <classicthais> I can use the ubuntu desktop for do that?
[14:34] <ubuntuser13> classicthais : you can easily do this with chmod commands
[14:36] <deepanshu> hi
[14:36] <deepanshu> i am new to ubuntu i want to discuss some problems of ubuntu
[14:36] <compdoc_> procede
[14:38] <frank__> hello everybody
[14:39] <blueingress> Hi all, I lost the boot mene to my win7 when after I reintall ubuntu. How Can I find it back? Thanks.
[14:40] <deepanshu> hi to  every one
[14:40] <frank__> Can someone know Linux Assembly laugage ?
[14:40] <rob___sdaq> @blueingress you need to boot into a live CD if theres no boot options and follow this guide to bring back grub https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[14:41] <compdoc_> I think Assembly langauge is more a cpu thing
[14:41] <Bashing-om> blueingress: After the (re-)install did you -> sudo update-grub <- > to pick up and chainload Windows onto grub's boot menu ?
[14:41] <deepanshu> s,jas
[14:41] <frank__> but you know ,when i use gcc -S exp.c -o exp.s
[14:41] <blueingress> Bashing-om, no
[14:42] <frank__> something very ODD
[14:42] <Bashing-om> blueingress: Run that and advise us of the results.
[14:42] <frank__> so i wanna learn AT&T sytax Assembly ..
[14:42] <blueingress> Bashing-om, Thanks. trying
[14:43] <bekks> frank__: Then you'd have to find some system that actually still uses AT&T ASM :)
[14:43] <Bashing-om> deepanshu: You have a support request ?
[14:44] <blueingress> Bashing-om, there is results. : Found Windows 7 (loader) on /dev/sda1.
[14:44] <frank__> Actually difficut ..but ..
[14:44] <blueingress> Bashing-om, should I reboot to find out?
[14:44] <user124141> Hi, is there any script or piece of software to create a pdf out of many picture files (scanned text document)? Should create small size pdfs but text should be readable
[14:44] <Bashing-om> blueingress: looks good, reboot to see the effect.
[14:45] <bekks> frank__: Actually impossible. Whats the end goal after all that?
[14:45] <deepanshu> how to restore the grub
[14:45] <blueingress> Bashing-om, Thanks a lot, c y
[14:46] <frank__> but as you know,C even can do anything but asm really should be understand ..
[14:47] <ubuntuser13> deepanshu: restore grub is easy with   ubuntu cd.
[14:47] <Bashing-om> deepanshu: Several ways, what makes you think your grub needs restoring ?
[14:47] <deepanshu> i am just asking to increase my knowkedge
[14:48] <frank__> fork() create a process and movl $2,%ebx movl $1,%eax int $0x80 aslo can do it ...but
[14:49] <Bashing-om> deepanshu: Admirable, grub is a deep peocess. May I suggest that you start with this -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275 , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 .
[14:49] <Bashing-om> *process
[14:50] <nikolam> How do I do remote support to Ubuntu user?
[14:51] <nikolam> There is a girl with a broken package I woudl like to help, by connecting to her desktop
[14:51] <bekks> nikolam: Just use ssh.
[14:51] <deepanshu> nikolam :using ssh
[14:51] <bekks> nikolam: Using ssh, you and her can use "screen" so you can even show her what you are doing.
[14:51] <nikolam> bekks, dee-vee you all know that is impossible for home users with public dynamic IPS ,
[14:52] <nikolam> where ports are not open
[14:52] <bekks> nikolam: _And you know thats nonsense, since you can create port forwardings.
[14:52] <nikolam> bekks, no you can not, because she is girl and dosn't know sh* about configuring her router.
[14:53] <nikolam> besides, provider also mostly block incoming ports...
[14:53] <trndr> nikolam, you could try teamviewer
[14:53] <bekks> nikolam: Oh, I can. She cant.
[14:53] <nikolam> yup, that was the question
[14:53] <frank__> hello
[14:53] <nikolam> trndr, don't we have ANY remote support solution that works out-of-box that works o n Ubuntu?
[14:54] <blustarwolf> doesnt vnc have a trial version thats easy to install?
[14:54] <bekks> blustarwolf: vnc is opensource. No trial version whatsoever.
[14:54] <bekks> blustarwolf: And it is slow and insecure.
[14:54] <compdoc_> nikolam, vino comes installed, I think
[14:54] <compdoc_> but youd have to forward a port
[14:54] <nikolam> blustarwolf, vnc does not need trial, it just works there are packages, but not without open ports for ssh...
[14:55] <nikolam> vino, hmm compdoc_
[14:55] <bekks> nikolam: Which is wrong again. vnc itself uses different ports than ssh.
[14:55] <nikolam> no, without forwarding port
[14:55] <nikolam> bekks, yes, noone normal would use VNC without ssh tunnel, wouldn't you?
[14:55] <yuser> hi! we I activate the nvidia card  of my laptop in prime the desktop freezes after a while. Can somebody help me??
[14:55] <bekks> nikolam: vnc uses different ports than ssh. you can tunnel vnc through ssh, which doesnt change the fact that vnc isnt using port 22.
[14:56] <nikolam> bekks, yes Know that. and I know VNC is unencrypted by default
[14:56] <yuser> bekks I have done the steps that you said me installing the nvidia devices, and stills freezes after a while
[14:57] <nikolam> bekks, that also does not change we need something like TeamViewer for one-person support, installed by default
[14:57] <nikolam> Windoze have those "request for assistance" i think
[14:58] <bekks> nikolam: I dont need that at all.
[14:58] <MarcN> Has the vncviewer/vino unsupported security type ever get resolved?
[14:59] <nikolam> bekks, but people that need support and are using ubuntu, need remote support
[14:59] <Armag3dd0n1> anyone have an idea why ubuntu is lagging with like xchat and firefox open?
[15:00] <bekks> nikolam: and in most cases they can use vino or ssh.
[15:00] <nikolam> Armadillos, maybe doing update in the background, that is known to kill performance temporarely. use top to see what is acive
[15:01] <catz`> i have a question, is it possible to virtualize one server with different operating systems using (KVM virtualization) and then connect all of them with VNC like 10 monitors, 10 keyboards, 10 mouses so that anyone can access it's virtual machine without a computer?
[15:01] <nikolam> bekks, in most cases, user is behind routers and firewalls, so no ssh
[15:02] <belgianguy> hi, do .deb files register themselves in the sources file?
[15:02] <bekks> nikolam: which is wrong at least in most of all european countries
[15:02] <nikolam> catz`, yes. One might also use Virtualbox, because it has integrated RDP protocol for VMs
[15:02] <creature> Hello. I have some custom keyboard layout rules in /etc/default/keyboard, but Ubuntu/Unity isn't taking them into account. How do I fix that?
[15:03] <nikolam> bekks, witch is what you can not expect from random user and is mostly right in most european countries I know of.
[15:03] <bekks> nikolam: then you dont know much countries over here.
[15:04] <bekks> nikolam: and still, personally I dont need any software like that preinstalled. In case of need, just use teamviewer et al.
[15:04] <nikolam> bekks, and you don't know much what home users use
[15:04] <Guest42387> nikolam, +1
[15:04] <nikolam> bekks, I think it would be of much help to any new Ubuntu user seeking help remotely
[15:04] <bekks> nikolam: whatever. you have no clue about my knowledge. move on.
[15:05] <bekks> someone might tell him he just got plonked.
[15:05] <nikolam> bekks, I am not here to argue and to argue your personal needs, moove on
[15:05]  * Guest42387 with a masters degree it might be a little bit easier to open a port, yeah.
[15:06] <nikolam> bekks, I don't understand
[15:06] <bekks> Guest42387: master degrees have nothing to do with reading the manual of your router.
[15:06] <nikolam> bekks, you can not expect from ubuntu user to even have access to outer he uses...
[15:07] <nikolam> what if he/she uses 3G internet?
[15:08] <Guest42387> bekks, and the little girl is waiting for a practical solution in the meanwhile (we know about your knowledge, but that isn't helping the normal user, if you don't share ...)
[15:08] <nikolam> instead of UbuntuOne, Ubuntu should have some kind of remote desktop facility to help new users
[15:08] <zorael> Can anyone recommend a terminal mv tool that that displays transfer speeds, possibly with progress bars?
[15:08] <bekks> Guest42387: so ask that girl where the manual is - or help her, which I'm not going to do.
[15:08] <zorael> Excepting rsync, I guess
[15:09] <nikolam> Yes, problem arised when she updated from mirror , that was pre-selected during install
[15:09] <nikolam> and that is obviously not updated and she now have brokena package
[15:09] <Guest42387> bekks, as usual
[15:09] <nikolam> bekks, ok, leave it to me ok
[15:09] <bekks> Guest42387: so be her hero then. and dont hilight me anymore.
[15:11] <MACscr> if im running spamassassin as debian-spamd like so http://pastie.org/pastes/9233203/text?key=mgz1vqlao7nfmwrnssuig, should its update files be owned by debian-spamd or root?
[15:11] <MACscr> Also, when i run commands like a lint check, should i be doing something like so? su debian-spamd -c 'spamassassin -D --lint' 2> /tmp/lint
[15:11] <MACscr> the reason why i ask is that i dont think the user debian-spamd has access to the sa-update files that are being created
[15:11] <MACscr> since they are owned by root
[15:16] <catz`> ubuntu sucks on vmware /facepalm
[15:16] <catz`> it's the slowest os ever, on vmware
[15:16] <MACscr> lol, not really
[15:16] <bekks> catz`: then your vm config is wrong.
[15:16] <MACscr> yep
[15:17] <h00k> catz`: I'm running it right now and it's as fast as native, you may have something wrong.
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> catz`: try LXDE or XFCE as the session, rather than Gnome + Compiz
[15:17] <catz`> i have vmware 2012, running ubuntu desktop, with 3gb ram and 2 cpus at 3ghz
[15:17] <catz`> i have also installed vmware tools
[15:17] <ikonia> that's hardware list - not config
[15:17] <bekks> catz`: there is no "vmware 2012" at all.
[15:18] <catz`> sorry, vmware 10
[15:18] <h00k> catz`: What about the hardware VMware Player/Workstation is on? That can certainly slow down any vm (Ubuntu or not)
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> catz`: try the lighter sessions, it will help speed things up
[15:18] <bekks> catz`: how many cores and how much ram does your host have? and why are you using compiz inside a vm which is known to be laggy?
[15:18] <catz`> and it's the slowest thing on earth, when i boot it takes me 10 seconds to open the terminal
[15:18] <catz`> it's vmware workstation 10
[15:19] <ikonia> it's most likley the visual pass through on the video card
[15:19] <catz`> bekks, 8gb ram, 4x3ghz, ssd
[15:19] <ikonia> (without doing any checking)
[15:19] <catz`> videocard gtx 790
[15:19] <ikonia> catz`: yeah, but the virtual video card is not
[15:20] <catz`> so what should i use?
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> catz`: the video card is virtualized, so you will need to tweak video settings for 3D accelleration, or easier, use a non-compoziting session
[15:21] <ikonia> I'd suggest working through the problem, I was making a huge assumption based on common basic errors/regular lack of understanding
[15:23] <decci> I am facing this issue Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com precise-updates Release E: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com precise-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 2
[15:23] <decci> please suggest
[15:23]  * catz` suggests a suggestion
[15:23]  * ikonia requests catz` focus's on his own problems rather than silly comments to others
[15:24]  * catz` is sorry
[15:24] <oscar_> Hi, I'm have a problem where X will randomly freeze. Can any one help me?
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> decci: wget https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> oscar_: have you tested RAM from Grub?
[15:24] <Armag3dd0n1> what could cause lagging?
[15:24] <sunnymolini> I can't get my public share to accept connections from Win7 machines on my network.
[15:24] <catz`> cya mates
[15:24] <sunnymolini> Running samba4 on Ubuntu 12.04 with smb.conf as posted (http://paste.ubuntu.com/7544356/)
[15:24] <sunnymolini> conf condensed for easy reading.
[15:24] <sunnymolini> the public share path has been chowned to nobody:users
[15:24] <oscar_> nope
[15:24] <sunnymolini> When I point windows explorer in Win7 to \\servername , both the public and 'sunny' shares show up just fine.
[15:25] <sunnymolini> and I can R&W to the Sunny share, but when I try to access the Public share, I get the error "Windows cannot access \\servername\Public You do not have permission to access \\servername\Public."
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> sunnymolini: why Samba4?
[15:25] <unopaste> sunnymolini you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[15:25] <Armag3dd0n1> firefox, chrome, xchat, there's always a delay :(
[15:25] <bishopstix> Does anyone know of a twitter app for ubuntu (birdie, polly, turpial, etc) that does not shutdown unexpectedly for such and such reason?
[15:25] <katiejeank> this is help channel?
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> katiejeank: for Ubuntu, yes
[15:25] <oscar_> ActionParsnip: Nope
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> sunnymolini: why are you using samba4 and not samba?
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> oscar_: I suggest it as a starting place
[15:26] <oscar_> cool
[15:26] <katiejeank> can anyone help me w/ mounting issuses i'm having?
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> katiejeank: with details, maybe
[15:28] <denkan> Hello, I edited my interface and put static ip and it worked good. Now when I reeboted it dosen't recognize my interface. restored the previous file but still dosen't work. any idea what I need to do?
[15:28] <xangua> bishopstix: most thitter clients have their days finished
[15:28] <katiejeank> ok cool, just booting up getting info i need
[15:28] <decci> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7544703/
[15:28] <denkan> if I run ifconfig I can still see my interface
[15:28] <bishopstix> @xangua why you say so?
[15:28] <bishopstix> xangua: why you say so?
[15:29] <decci> ActionParsnip: Still the error
[15:29] <xangua> bishopstix: because twitter gave it's back to third party apps long ago
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> decci: try switching from the Indian server to the main server
[15:29] <ikonia> the indian server has IPv6 issues
[15:29] <ikonia> they are known
[15:29] <kremlin> hey watssap guyz.
[15:29] <bishopstix> xangua: so better use twitter with browser you mean?
[15:30] <Armag3dd0n1> anyone have any tips to stop ubuntu 14.04 lagging?
[15:30] <sunnymolini> ActionParsnip: The package name I installed was Samba, 4 is just the current version.
[15:30] <xangua> bishopstix: you could use tweetdeck or any of the other web clients
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> Armag3dd0n1: install xfce4, log off, log in to the XFCE session, profit
[15:30] <Guest59054> Hey guyz I need an invite to join EFnet server..
[15:30] <Armag3dd0n1> what is that?
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> sunnymolini: why did you not install the 'samba' package? Why did you install 'samba4'?
[15:30] <ikonia> Guest59054: not here you don't
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> Armag3dd0n1: its another desktop instead of Gnome
[15:31] <denkan> under internet connections my interace are greyed out for some reason
[15:31] <Armag3dd0n1> that's why it's lagging?
[15:31] <sunnymolini> ActionParsnip: I installed with the command sudo apt-get install samba
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> Armag3dd0n1: Compiz is teh default window manager and may be causing slowness
[15:31] <Guest59054> ikonia: how do you suppose where...I just need some assisstance..
[15:31] <decci> ActionParsnip: How to switch to Main server
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> sunnymolini: then you are using samba, not samba4. Or do you now have both installed?
[15:32] <Armag3dd0n1> how do I change it? I like the look of ubuntu ?(:
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> decci: use software centre
[15:32] <ikonia> Guest59054: 1.) efnet server is not an invite server 2.) this channel supports ubuntu not "invites to different IRC networks"
[15:32] <decci> ActionParsnip: I have just commandline
[15:32] <decci> ActionParsnip: No GUI..since I installed server package
[15:32] <bishopstix> xangua: tweetdeck is a chrome app but no option for firefox?
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> decci: run:  sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and remove all instances of "in."
[15:32] <decci> ActionParsnip: Any idea how to shift to main server through commanlin
[15:32] <sunnymolini> ActionParsnip: Just samba I guess. I've been primarily a Windows user, so I'm used to providing version info with problem reports.
[15:33] <Armag3dd0n1> wait, how do I install unity 2d?
[15:33] <decci> ActionParsnip: What shall I replace in with?
[15:33] <Guest59054> ikonia: I was just hoping someone is in here connected to the same server..
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> sunnymolini: then why did you not just right click a folder and click 'share', just like you do in Windows?
[15:33] <ikonia> Guest59054: I'm connected to it, but I don't see how that changes anything based on the information I've just given you
[15:33] <Guest59054> ikonia: so that one can be of assisstance..
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> sunnymolini: run:   dpkg -l | awk {'print $2'} | grep samba          what is the output please?
[15:34] <thecha> how do you check your ping in ubuntu?
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> thecha: same as in Windows
[15:34] <decci> ActionParsnip: : GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 2
[15:34] <Guest59054> ikonia : How bout you just give some appropriate suggestions about the same..
[15:34] <xangua> bishopstix: http://tweetdeck.twitter.com/
[15:34] <decci> ActionParsnip: I removed just in from in.archive.ubuntu.com
[15:35] <ikonia> Guest59054: 1.) it's not an invite only server 2.) this channel supports ubuntu, not efnet
[15:35] <Bashing-om> thecha: For instance. To get a response from Google -> ping -c3 <IP_ADDRESS> <- .
[15:35] <sunnymolini> samba     samba-common   samba-common-bin   samba-doc
[15:35] <blustarwolf> thecha: traceroute can give time to destination
[15:35] <thecha> thank you
[15:35] <thecha> thank you
[15:35] <bishopstix> xangua: yes thanks saw that
[15:36] <decci> ActionParsnip: ?
[15:36] <decci> ActionParsnip: Is http://archive.ubuntu.com precise Release the correct one
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> sunnymolini: then you have samba installed, not samba4, samba4 is a different package
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> decci: as far as I know, yes
[15:37] <Guest59054> ikonia: I do understand its server 2...but I did connect to this freenode for information of how to connect to it...thats all...I need'nt have to bug everybody about..
[15:37] <decci> ActionParsnip: Get:92 http://archive.ubuntu.com precise Release [49.6 kB] Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com precise Release E: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 2
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> thecha: have you never pinged in Windows?
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> decci: I suggest you report a bug
[15:37] <Guest59054> ikonia: But since you are connected to it....how bout you give me an invite them..
[15:38] <ikonia> Guest59054: it's not invite only - so I don't understand why you think you need an invite, 2.) efnet has it's own support channels - use them, 3.) this hcannel supports ubuntu - not efnet irc channels
[15:38] <sunnymolini> ActionParsnip: Thanks.
[15:38] <katiejeank> "an error occured while mounting /."
[15:38] <katiejeank> that's my prob
[15:38] <decci> ActionParsnip: :(
[15:38] <decci> ActionParsnip: What could be the issue
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> sunnymolini: check the access on the Public share, grant your username explicit access if needed
[15:38] <katiejeank> i did something in archive manager i think
[15:39] <Guest59054> ikonia: Kindly propose me those support sites..please
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> decci: if you run: df -h; df -i    do you see 100% anywhere?
[15:39] <ikonia> Guest59054: no, sorry, enough now,
[15:39] <katiejeank> can anyone help with this?
[15:39] <ikonia> Guest59054: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7544703/
[15:39] <ikonia> oops
[15:39] <ikonia> Guest59054: http://www.efnet.org/
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> katiejeank: boot to liveCD and you can fsck your partition there
[15:39] <ikonia> Guest59054: all info on there, please read
[15:39] <decci> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7544752/
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> decci: ok thats good :)
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> decci: you have free space and lots of inodes free
[15:40] <decci> ActionParsnip: Yes
[15:40] <katiejeank> can i fsck in manual recovery?
[15:40] <Bashing-om> katiejeank: Maybe do a fisle system check abd see what results, Terminal commands -> sudo touch /forcefsck , sudo shutdown -r now <- .
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> katiejeank: if you can unmount the partition then yes
[15:40] <decci> ActionParsnip: I wonder why its giving NODATA
[15:40] <decci> ActionParsnip: Error
[15:40] <daftykins> katiejeank: boot a liveCD/USB
[15:41] <Guest59054> owk.! thanks. My apologize for the disturbia. chao.!
[15:43] <decci> ActionParsnip: Somwehere I read its becoz of proxy
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> decci: do you use a proxy?
[15:43] <sunnymolini> ActionParsnip: sudo chown sunny:sambashare Public
[15:43] <decci> ActionParsnip: Yes
[15:43] <sunnymolini> ActionParsnip: ls -l shwos that the change took
[15:44] <sunnymolini> ActionParsnip: restarted the smbd, but still cannot connect, same error in Windows
[15:46] <sunnymolini> ActionParsnip: In the conf (http://paste.ubuntu.com/7544356/) I have guest only = yes set for that share.
[15:46] <sunnymolini> ActionParsnip: I believe that forces all connecting users to connect as the guest account.
[15:46] <sunnymolini> Which I have set to 'nobody'
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> sunnymolini: I'd just omit the line, then anyone can walk in
[15:47] <sunnymolini> I already have nobody in the sambashare group, and have added it as a no-password user in samba enabled
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> sunnymolini: try both ways, one will probably fly
[15:47] <daftykins> sunnymolini: what's Windows saying and what are your logs saying?
[15:48] <daftykins> sunnymolini: you've run 'testparm' presumably?
[15:54] <sunnymolini> ActionParsnip: I've done that now, and it's working. Thanks.
[15:54] <sunnymolini> I was worried about permission problems, but it's supposed to be public, so I've changed the create mask to  0777.
[15:54] <sunnymolini> don't anticipate any problems now.
[15:55] <sunnymolini> daftykins: I've actually never heard of testparm
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> sunnymolini: samba is far from great, SFTP ftw :)
[15:56] <daftykins> sunnymolini: you would had you been to samba documentation :)
[15:56] <daftykins> you don't get samba throughput with SFTP
[15:57] <melodie> hi
[15:57] <melodie> I would like to try to compile the Ubuntu Builder tool from sources into Trusty. It is a Gambas written program, can someone tell me how to start with this? https://launchpad.net/~f-muriana/+archive/ubuntu-builder/+packages
[15:58] <decci> ActionParsnip: Yes I am behind proxy
[15:58] <melodie> I've got the sources in my directory, and trying to find out how to use the sources
[15:59] <sunnymolini> lol, burn. That's from a while ago.
[15:59] <ikonia> melodie isn't there a binary package for it ?
[15:59] <sunnymolini> daftykins: I spent a lot of time in the samba documentation looking through parameters.
[15:59] <SchrodingersScat> apt-get build-deps would probably help
[15:59] <ikonia> just blindly typing that isn't wise
[16:00] <mistawright> I have the gcc-arm-linux-gnueabi installed. how would i tell distcc to use this compiler? I know how to specify a path but not sure where the path of the compiler would be
[16:00] <sunnymolini> ActionParsnip: when I wrote that, I had just come off a project where I was trying to jerryrig Samba for access from any device on the Internet and ended up with sftp.
[16:01] <sunnymolini> I've since come to see the throughput light as Daftykins points out.
[16:01] <melodie> ikonia not for Trusty and it is discontinued since march 10th :-(
[16:01] <sunnymolini> and I only need it now for Lan access.
[16:01] <ikonia> melodie so why was it discontinued ?
[16:01] <decci>  am facing this issue Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com precise-updates Release E: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com precise-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 2
[16:01] <melodie> ikonia I show you:
[16:01] <ikonia> melodie: I'd class that as important information before even considering moving forward
[16:02] <melodie> ikonia https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-builder/+announcement/12508
[16:02] <melodie> ikonia I am not scared about anything related to compiling, I just want to find how to try to do that with this program
[16:02] <ikonia> melodie: ok, so it's a dead product due to changes in the distro and lack of time to maintain those changes
[16:03] <melodie> ikonia this is the reason why:
[16:03] <melodie> ikonia the reason why I want to make it work in trusty: http://bento-remix.phillw.net/i686/readme.txt
[16:03] <ikonia> melodie: you're not scared of anything related to compile it - but your not sure how to even start ?
[16:03] <melodie> I would like to see if it could still build an iso as I did for Precise
[16:03] <ikonia> melodie: this sounds like you should just accept it's dead
[16:04] <melodie> ikonia I don't know if I need to use the tools used when making a package or if there is a shorter way (dh-make or else perhaps). I never compiled a gambas program so far
[16:05] <wilee-nilee> decci, I think relevant, https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/234246
[16:05] <ikonia> melodie: I'd class that as a dead toolset and reading the txt file, other people have marked it as dead and are looking for "other tools"
[16:05] <ikonia> which seems to put that project in no-mans land
[16:07] <savid> I closed my laptop lid late last night around 3:30am. Looked at my syslog and thought this seemed odd: http://sprunge.us/FgOQ
[16:07] <melodie> ikonia too bad :)
[16:07] <savid> Why is my computer waiting 5 hours to actually go to sleep?
[16:07] <savid> (actually I closed the lid at 3:18am)
[16:07] <melodie> ikonia where have you read about the other people seeking for other tools?
[16:08] <ikonia> melodie: in the text file you linked me to
[16:09] <Armag3dd0n1> can anyone link me to ubuntu 12.04 x64bit and 32bit? NOT 12.04.4!!!
[16:09] <melodie> ikonia the readme.txt ?
[16:09] <melodie> :D
[16:10] <Armag3dd0n1> anyone?
[16:10] <decci> Armag3dd0n1: I can
[16:10] <Armag3dd0n1> ?
[16:10] <decci> Armag3dd0n1: Dont forget to thank me http://iso.linuxquestions.org/ubuntu/ubuntu-12.04/#x86_64
[16:10] <melodie> ikonia if this is the http://bento-remix.phillw.net/i686/readme.txt text file you are talking about, I am the author of the text. ;)
[16:11] <Mike__> Armag3dd0n1: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[16:11] <ikonia> melodie: ah, I see that's why you are "looking for others"
[16:11] <melodie> ikonia :D
[16:11] <Armag3dd0n1> they're all x64 m8
[16:11] <melodie> ikonia I would like to have a fast try at it, nothing very bad if that is not possible, but I would have liked to try it
[16:12] <JimmyNeutron> Anyone have any issues after the most recent update as of last night?  After running apt-get dist-upgrade, my system won't boot up anymore.  This is om the Gigabyte Brix Pro
[16:12] <JimmyNeutron> 14.04 LTS Desktop
[16:13] <Armag3dd0n1> Not Found
[16:13] <Armag3dd0n1> The requested URL /releases/12.04/ubuntu-12.04-alternate-i386.iso was not found on this server.
[16:13] <Armag3dd0n1> Apache/2.2.22 (Ubuntu) Server at uk.releases.ubuntu.com Port 80
[16:13] <melodie> ikonia http://linuxvillage.org/en/downloads/  || in order to do the same with Trusty I will need to learn the basis and it will take a long time, I can wait or maybe find a way around in between, but recompiling ubuntu builder would have been a nice experience
[16:13] <Armag3dd0n1> well that helped :/
[16:13] <SchrodingersScat> Armag3dd0n1: should check torrent dht, see if anyone is still seeding
[16:13] <Armag3dd0n1> Mike_: is 12.04 there not .4?
[16:14] <ikonia> melodie personally, I believe depending on a dead project is unwise and it's better to find a solution that can go forward, but that's just my personal view
[16:14] <melodie> JimmyNeutron have you tried the safe mode boot and see what you can do from there?
[16:14] <Armag3dd0n1> Not Found
[16:14] <Armag3dd0n1> The requested URL /releases/12.04/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent was not found on this server.
[16:14] <Armag3dd0n1> Apache/2.2.22 (Ubuntu) Server at uk.releases.ubuntu.com Port 80
[16:14] <sl33k_> How do I change my theme? I am on Megacity DE
[16:14] <Armag3dd0n1> for all o them
[16:14] <melodie> ikonia not false, but the project died very recently, so if I could have it working perhaps I could interest someone to take on
[16:14] <melodie> who knows?
[16:15] <SchrodingersScat> Armag3dd0n1: correct, ubuntu has moved on, you probably need to find another source, probably a good idea to double check hashes
[16:15] <Pici> Armag3dd0n1: Is there a good reason why you need 12.04 instead of 12.04.4?
[16:15] <ikonia> melodie looking at the reasons it died "changes in the OS", I'd guess "it's dead for a solid reason", but again, from my small research and personal opinion only
[16:15] <melodie> Armag3dd0n1 for what reason do you need an outdated version?
[16:15] <Armag3dd0n1> no but 14.04 is lagging too much
[16:16] <Pici> Armag3dd0n1: 12.04.4 is 12.04 with all updates included.
[16:16] <melodie> ikonia he needed to regain the time used for his personal life
[16:16] <Armag3dd0n1> so it has 2d too? 12.04.4?
[16:17] <SchrodingersScat> Armag3dd0n1: and as soon as you (i think) dist-upgrade, it will try to go to .4 anyway, afaik
[16:17] <melodie> and he didn't care about the efforts done by all the people who reported bugs in his former repos at code google he just removed it without warning. His program was about to become the best of it's kind though
[16:17] <Mike__> Armag3dd0n1: Sorry but there isn't 12.04
[16:17] <Pici> SchrodingersScat: pretty much.
[16:17] <Mike__> only 12.04.4
[16:17] <Armag3dd0n1> which release should i get for 64bit and 32bit without lagging?
[16:17] <melodie> Armag3dd0n1 yes there have been
[16:18] <someHuman> How do I enable scroll-through-tabs using mouse scroll wheel?
[16:18] <melodie> Mike__ yes, there have been several in between
[16:18] <melodie> Armag3dd0n1 several 12.04.xy
[16:18] <Armag3dd0n1> i confused
[16:18] <Pici> Armag3dd0n1: whichever matches your processor.
[16:19] <Armag3dd0n1> I have an old machine with 3gb ram and 2gb ram, I installed 14.04 but it's lagging like mad.
[16:19] <Pici> Armag3dd0n1: I don't know what melodie is saying either.
[16:19] <melodie> Armag3dd0n1 what machine do you have (proc/ram/graphics) and what programs do you use? does it lag all the time?
[16:19] <melodie> Pici : 12.04.1 then newer then newer then 12.04.4
[16:20] <Armag3dd0n1> dual core, 3gb ram, 160gb hdd on an old pc, 14.04 on that. 2gb ram, 60gb hdd and single core with 14.04 on that
[16:20] <Pici> melodie: What?
[16:20] <Armag3dd0n1> 1 is a desktop and the other is a notebook
[16:20] <Mike__> Armag3dd0n1: Try Crunchbang: http://crunchbang.org/  . It's very fast
[16:20] <melodie> Pici never mind
[16:20] <Armag3dd0n1> I like ubuntu though lol
[16:20] <Armag3dd0n1> i love it infact
[16:20] <melodie> so do I
[16:21] <Armag3dd0n1> 12.04 has 2d unity
[16:21] <Bashing-om> Mike__: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04.1/ ; 12.04.1 is down at the bottom of the list.
[16:21]  * Pici gives up
[16:22] <Mike__> Bashing-om: You want to send this to Armag3dd0n1, right?
[16:22] <Bashing-om> Mike__: Yeah, I got finger happy .
[16:23] <Bashing-om> Armag3dd0n1: ^^ : http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04.1/ .
[16:23] <Mike__> :-)
[16:23] <Armag3dd0n1> thank you, downloading now! you think it will lag as much as 14.04?
[16:24] <Pici> Armag3dd0n1: I highly suggest using a 12.04.4 install over 12.04.1.  You will save time downloading, and you will more up-to-date security fixes out of the box.
[16:24] <forrest> Has anyone noticed an attempt to pxe boot on shutdown for Trusty after the latest kernel update to 3.13.0-27?
[16:24] <wilee-nilee> Armag3dd0n1, We can't just answer that empirically, think about it.
[16:25] <Armag3dd0n1> will 12.04.4 have 2d unity?
[16:25] <Pici> Armag3dd0n1: If 12.04 has it. Yes.
[16:25] <Bashing-om> Armag3dd0n1: Well, from what I gather, 14.04 is "generaly" smoother and faster then 12.04 was . However, a lot depends on the graphics situation.
[16:25] <Armag3dd0n1> i haz a crap gpu it says something about an addition driver or something
[16:25] <Armag3dd0n1> idk
[16:25] <Armag3dd0n1> im new to ubuntu
[16:25] <JimmyNeutron> melodie, Yeah...rebooting back into the old kernel and it works.
[16:26] <JimmyNeutron> I need to read up on what the new kernel has and did
[16:26] <melodie> JimmyNeutron very good! what about a bug report against the new kernel?
[16:27] <Bashing-om> Armag3dd0n1: IF, and I say IF you are running a legacy ATI graphics card .. release 12.04.1 has support (proprietary) graphics drivers .
[16:27] <JimmyNeutron> melodie, I want to verify it more before opening a case.
[16:28] <someHuman> Hello!
[16:28] <someHuman> I can't use my Chrome properly, this shows up http://imgur.com/t4O9wtw
[16:28] <khildin> someHuman, then follow the advice given....
[16:29] <the_drow> Hi guys. I have a Samsung Series 9 with an aweful BIOS.
[16:30] <the_drow> It did not recognize ubuntu when installing in dual boot mode so we formatted the computer and installed ubuntu from scratch
[16:30] <the_drow> Now that bricked the computer
[16:31] <bekks> Installing Ubuntu does not brick anything.
[16:31] <bekks> Please describe the exact issue you are having.
[16:31] <forrest> the)drow is the bios inaccessible?
[16:31] <wilee-nilee> the_drow, W8 from the factory originally?
[16:31] <the_drow> Well the computer is now bricked. I can't boot ubuntu
[16:31] <the_drow> wilee-nilee: Yup
[16:31] <bekks> the_drow: "bricked" in terms of a computer means it doesnt even get to the BIOS anymore, besides not booting.
[16:31] <forrest> also again, no one has seen issues with Trusty on the latest kernel (3.13.0-27-generic) with an attempt to pxe boot over ipv4/6 on shutdown?
[16:32] <wilee-nilee> the_drow, You aware of UEFI, and the persession boot menu?
[16:32] <bekks> the_drow: So insert a live cd and repair your grub installation.
[16:32] <the_drow> forrest: The BIOS is accessible. GRUB isn't
[16:32] <bekks> the_drow: So it isnt bricked at all, it just doesnt boot.
[16:32] <forrest> then the box isn't bricked, do what bekks suggested and fix grub
[16:32] <the_drow> bekks: dropping to the grub shell now
[16:32] <bekks> !grub2 | the_drow
[16:32] <bekks> the_drow: So you can even access grub.
[16:32] <bekks> the_drow: the grub shell is part of grub.
[16:32] <bekks> !uefi | the_drow
[16:32] <the_drow> Ok, I'm on the grub shell
[16:33] <bakflash> is mv the right tool to move a huge amount of data from one drive to another? (around 3TB, mostly files of 3-10gb, some minor files around 10-2000k)
[16:33] <bekks> bakflash: cp, rsync, nautilus, etc. - whatever you like most.
[16:34] <bakflash> bekks: well my question aims on to speed at most actually. I should had mention that
[16:34] <user123321> What's the best IDE for Ubuntu?
[16:34] <bakflash> user123321: which programming language? this question is actually very subjective
[16:34] <user123321> C++
[16:34] <user123321> And, PHP?
[16:34] <bekks> bakflash: the speed is determined by the source and target medium, not by the application you are using.
[16:35] <bekks> !best | user123321
[16:35] <bakflash> user123321: eclipse, kdevelop for cpp. I like jetbrains tools for PHP (I think its called phpstorm)
[16:35] <bekks> "best" relies on your personal opinion, not on facts.
[16:35] <user123321> I see.
[16:35] <user123321> How is netbeans?
[16:35] <bekks> user123321: Take a look yourself.
[16:36] <user123321> Cool. :)
[16:36] <khildin> user123321, if you speak no Chinese and you do speak good French, what is the 'best' foreign language?
[16:37] <bakflash> bekks: well, that it depends source/target was clear for me ;) But I've read many discussions about rsync, scp, .. when moving was to another computer... Anyway
[16:37] <melodie> khildin for what purpose?
[16:37] <TeraJL> hi there, i'm trying to install synapse http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/synapse-gnome-do-launcher-app-review-ubuntu but the PPA is not working on 14.04(trusty) but i saw that i can change the ppa from trusty to saucy, but my when i try to change on "software sources" the ppa the software sources crashes and don't change, is this a known bug? and how can i change it mannualy? thanks
[16:37] <user123321> hmm.
[16:38] <khildin> melodie, right... :)
[16:38] <ikonia> TeraJL don't install software from other versions
[16:38] <ikonia> TeraJL: use only software designed for the version you are running
[16:38] <user123321> So I've used both Netbeans and Eclipse in Windows, might I get the same experience in Ubuntu as well?
[16:39] <bekks> user123321: You might - or might not. Take a look yourself.
[16:39] <TeraJL> ikonia: if synapse crash i don't think it would be a huge of a problem
[16:39] <ikonia> TeraJL: it is a problem
[16:39] <user123321> bekks, Oki. :)
[16:42] <wilee-nilee> TeraJL, I use synapse fro the ubuntu repos, has always worked.
[16:42] <wilee-nilee> from*
[16:43] <the_drow> It's repairing the boot
[16:43] <TeraJL> wilee-nilee: but it's missing on 14.04, there is only synapse-core/testing
[16:43] <the_drow> What happens if I reinstall windows 8?
[16:43] <wilee-nilee> TeraJL, Not here, do you have all the repos open?
[16:44] <bekks> the_drow: Why would you reinstall it, instead of repairing the boot environment, after reading the three articles given?
[16:44] <bekks> !dualboot | the_drow
[16:44] <the_drow> bekks: Because we erased it already in attempt to install ubuntu standalone
[16:45] <TeraJL> wilee-nilee: i think so, the problem is this https://bugs.launchpad.net/synapse-project/+bug/1288839
[16:45] <user123321> Question. If the Ubuntu Software centre shows Netbeans 7.0.1, but Netbeans website shows 8.0. What should I get?
[16:45] <Bashing-om> the_drow: Thhn Win8 over writes the booting code, and you (re-)install grub boot manager once more.
[16:45] <the_drow> Bashing-om: good to know
[16:45] <Bashing-om> Then*
[16:46] <bakflash> user123321: https://netbeans.org/community/releases/80/install.html
[16:46] <user123321> Bashing-om, If it's not in Ubuntu Shoftware Centre, what does it mean?
[16:46] <arooni-mobile> hey everyone;  i need crack some WEP keys to show my boss its not worth having as security.  i have ubuntu 14.04;  with a lenovo t420 laptop;  whta to do next?
[16:46] <user123321> Bashing-om, There's old version :|
[16:47] <wilee-nilee> TeraJL, Strange, but I install during development.
[16:47] <bakflash> lol
[16:47] <Bashing-om> user123321: Short answer, If ya have to ask, do not do it !
[16:48] <user123321> Oops, wrong nick, sorry.
[16:48] <the_drow> Well, there is an error: http://paste2.org/NP5I17jv
[16:48] <wilee-nilee> arooni-mobile, Not a ubuntu support issue.
[16:48] <Bashing-om> user123321: 'till you know yourself better, best always to remain under the ubrella of protection that is ubuntu's package management system. Else - no support -.
[16:49] <the_drow> boot repair can't fix my boot :(
[16:49] <wilee-nilee> arooni-mobile, This channel does not show you how to crack, no matter your supposed intentions, we can't really know if true.
[16:49] <user123321> Bashing-om, Cool, thanks.
[16:50] <the_drow> This seems to be the error: chroot /mnt/boot-sav/sda2 update-grub -y Unrecognized option `-y'
[16:50] <Bashing-om> user123321: : )
[16:52] <the_drow> Does anyone know what's wrong?
[16:54] <wilee-nilee> the_drow, On the bootrepair web page is a link to the developers thread, where thsy focus on this, put the bootinfo summary there.
[16:54] <wilee-nilee> they*
[16:54] <user123321> Does anyone have experience with Geany in Ubuntu?
[16:56] <wilee-nilee> the_drow, right below you not working -y is the same command run without it.
[16:56] <wilee-nilee> your*
[16:56] <lucido> minecraft crashed on launch. installed from ppa:minecraft-installer-peeps/minecraft-installer  in ubuntu 14.04, here's the crashreport: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7545161/
[16:56] <lucido> what's wrong I have glxgears working?
[16:57] <the_drow> wilee-nilee: Well you are right but I still can't boot
[16:58] <wilee-nilee> the_drow, yes we know take a look at the thread I suggest from the web page, these guys are the ones you want, I used to be there I know. ;)
[16:59] <wilee-nilee> the_drow, There are only a couple of people here who know the UEFI it is new and a bit more complex, so you have to adapt.
[17:00] <bakflash> lucido: why you do not use the official installer?
[17:00] <lucido> bakflash, I'll try
[17:01] <wilee-nilee> lucido, ppa's are not supported and mind craft is 3rd party, technically not supported.
[17:02] <wilee-nilee> err minecraft, Freudian slip
[17:02] <lucido> bakflash, exact samae error message when using the downloaded jar
[17:03] <lucido> what is this: OpenGL: ~~ERROR~~ RuntimeException: No OpenGL context found in the current thread.
[17:04] <lucido> so minecraft is not supposed to run on ubuntu?
[17:04] <bakflash> lucido: nope, it runs flawless. but it seems you are missing opengl
[17:05] <tgm4883> lucido: I run minecraft just fine, but I didn't use that PPA
[17:05] <bakflash> lucido: what GPU do you use?
[17:05] <rigo> hi
[17:06] <rigo> pretty please tell me how to install an (x)ubuntu on a laptop without optical drive from usb stick. i did the following:
[17:06] <lucido> bakflash, G45 I think, here's glxinfo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7545286/
[17:06] <wilee-nilee> rigo, try to put all in one post
[17:06] <ARM9> what's a good IDE for general web programming (html, css, js, php, whatever), preferably not KDE reliant
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> !ide
[17:06] <cipherboy> Hey, people's thoughts on the truecrypt?
[17:07] <tgm4883> !OT | cipherboy
[17:07] <bakflash> ARM9: phpstorm / webstorm
[17:07] <wilee-nilee> cipherboy, Yeah #truecrypt their channel.
[17:07] <ARM9> anjuta rings a bell
[17:07] <cipherboy> Ahh apologies, wrong channel!
[17:07] <ARM9> bakflash I don't think webstorm is within my budget, is phpstorm some sort of slim version of webstorm?
[17:07] <rigo> wilee-nilee: it is hard. cause i tried loads of things. however: installed from usb stick  after reboot the system is there but not booting. there is /dev/sda1 sda2 and sda3 on sda1 is only EFI directory but i dont have efi bios i guess this is the problem.
[17:08] <bakflash> ARM9: nah, webstorm is mostly JS as far as I know. But phpstorm can handle JS too. Isn't there a community edition of webstorm? When not I'm sorry
[17:08] <ARM9> don't be, it's good to get suggestions
[17:08] <wilee-nilee> !bootinfo| rigo run and pastebin the script
[17:09] <ARM9> I'll dig for a community edition
[17:09] <rigo> in the matter of fact i had a working version but i reinstalled w8.1 but i tought i go back to ubuntu. no matter if gpt or mbr if i delete all the partitions or not. every time the same result.
[17:09] <rigo> im on it brb
[17:09] <bakflash> ARM9: oh wow, there is no community edition of both IDE's.. Well there was one sometime ago. I use the premium edition for a long time now. I love jetbrains tools ;)
[17:10] <ARM9> well, bakflash webstorm has a few free options, but I think you have to apply
[17:10] <ARM9> good thing I'm planning on working on an open source project :D
[17:10] <ARM9> http://www.jetbrains.com/webstorm/buy/buy.jsp#openSource hm, a bit stricter than I had anticipated
[17:11] <lucido> bakflash, G45 doesn't support opengl?
[17:11] <lucido> I'm using the i915 driver
[17:12] <bakflash> lucido: Well I dont think you can play minecraft with an intel g45 express chipset
[17:12] <lucido> bakflash, shiit why not?
[17:13] <ikonia> lucido: no need for bad language please
[17:13] <lucido> could be just a lwjgl issue
[17:13] <rigo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7545318
[17:13] <lucido> ikonia, sorry I ment to say sheat
[17:13] <ikonia> lucido: please don't try to be clever, it's just a reasonable request to not use bad langauge.
[17:14] <rigo> i already altered some stuff. but i can reinstall the system once again if neccesary...
[17:16] <creature> I'd like to bind the 'launch terminal' command to my keyboard's "Super_L" key (the Windows key). I had this on my old laptop, but when I try to bind it in the keyboard settings it just goes back to 'Disabled'. How can I do this?
[17:16] <Bashing-om> rigo: I am not the smartest kid on the block, but, GPT patitioning = efi booting, and a EFI partition is required.
[17:18] <tgm4883> lucido: what version of opengl does that GPU support?
[17:18] <owen1> my laptop suspends every few minutes despite settings it to 'never'. i tried 'xset s off' but it's not working. any tips?
[17:18] <rigo> i am also not a linux god. but i tought if i erase everything and start allover from the beginning it should work. it is not. so is it a good starting point if i totally wipe out the hdd with dd?
[17:19] <ikonia> rigo: what's actually your issue ?
[17:19] <rigo> is the mbr partition table ok or should i use gpt instead?
[17:19] <rigo> i cant install the system or to be more specific i cna install the sys but it is not booting up.
[17:19] <lucido> tgm4883, not sure, glxinfo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7545286/
[17:19] <wilee-nilee> rigo, You have a gpt partition table but you are not installed with gpt, a bit hackneyed altogether.
[17:19] <lucido> tgm4883, 1.4?
[17:20] <rigo> aaand how to install with gpt?
[17:20] <Bashing-om> rigo: Chance are that all that is wrong is the boot code is not properly installed to that efi partition. I have no experience with EFI, but I can probably hunt up the tutorial to install in EFI,
[17:20] <tgm4883> lucido: give me a minute to look it up
[17:20] <wilee-nilee> rigo, Use nicks every time you answer someone here. NOt sure never done it, I would use a msdos table myself and call it a day, if this is not a uefi computer.
[17:21] <rigo> wilee-nilee: it is not an uefi it has the old bios. is it ok if i create the msdos partiton with gparted?
[17:22] <ARM9> what's a good place to put programs that require a lot of space that I want to symlink to /usr/bin
[17:22] <wilee-nilee> rigo, Yes this will wipe the drive however.
[17:22] <ikonia> ARM9: you shouldn't need to symlink
[17:22] <ARM9> and by a lot of space I mean tons of config files and other cruft
[17:22] <ikonia> ARM9: the ubuntu packages will put them in their hardcoded package places
[17:22] <ikonia> ARM9: just allocate space correctly
[17:23] <ARM9> ikonia I do because I need to keep it in a sub directory lest I want to litter the place with config files
[17:23] <ARM9> ikonia installing eclipse manually
[17:23] <ARM9> since the version in repo is like 2 years old
[17:23] <ikonia> ARM9: if you have a manual installer - you can put it whereever you want.
[17:23] <wilee-nilee> rigo, On occasion though gpt leaves remnants that need to be cleaned out so be aware if the in the install the HD does not show, if you go this route.
[17:23] <ARM9> /usr/bin with symlink it is then
[17:24] <ikonia> ARM9: /usr/bin is supposed to be just for binaries, however if you want it there, you can put it there
[17:24] <rigo> wilee-nilee: i guess i already tried to do that. nevermind i do it again. i have time :) well. that can be the point. can you tell me how to clean out the remains of the gpt?
[17:25] <wilee-nilee> rigo, http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/wipegpt.html  is a good way.
[17:25] <ARM9> ikonia right, so that's why I was asking for a good place to put it, how does /home/foo/bin sound
[17:25] <ikonia> ARM9: thats your home directory, you can put it anywhere you want
[17:25] <ikonia> ARM9: it's just a disk, the file systems are yours to use as you see fit
[17:25] <rigo> wilee-nilee: looks fine. i give a try and come back in 30mins
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> ARM9: not heard 'cruft' for a while :)
[17:26] <wilee-nilee> rigo, Cool, hope to see you installed and happy. ;)
[17:26] <rigo> :)
[17:26] <ARM9> ActionParsnip tis a nice word
[17:26] <wilee-nilee> ActionParsnip, hows about bloated. ;)
[17:27] <ARM9> bloat and cruft, crud and thunder
[17:27] <wilee-nilee> lol
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> ARM9: When you see the white whale :)
[17:29] <lucido> tgm4883, it supports opengl2.0
[17:30] <tgm4883> lucido: thanks for looking, work came up. What version of java are you using?
[17:30] <tgm4883> lucido: looks like 1.7, have you tried 1.8?
[17:31] <lucido> tgm4883, not likely that that is the problem
[17:32] <tgm4883> lucido: While I agree with you, Java SE 8 is listed as a system requirement of Minecraft
[17:32] <lucido> tgm4883, hmm, I'll try
[17:32] <tgm4883> lucido: or try an older version of minecraft
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> lucido: the webupd8 ppa was updated today with newer java
[17:33] <lucido> ActionParsnip, thanks
[17:33] <basketball> my wifi is connecting to wifi can i share my internet to my ethernet only desktop via ethernet
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> basketball: yes
[17:34] <basketball> like conect one end of ethernet to laptop and the other to windows desktop
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> !ics
[17:34] <basketball> and send the wireless internet
[17:34] <basketball> ActionParsnip,  can you walk me through it
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> basketball: what do you think that guide does?
[17:34] <basketball> it is easier to have someone say it in channel can you please
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> basketball: so you wnat me to copy and paste what it says in that link into the channel?
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> basketball: are you serios?
[17:38] <bakflash> I want to move many files (almost 1tb) from one the another drive. This is getting really slow (like 0.1kb/s). My first thoughts was: wow, one of these drives seems to be broken. After many fiddling and checking I've found out when I copy from another drive to one of these drives (or copying from one of those drives to another) its pretty fast, the drives seems to be okay. Any ideas? This is getting pretty weird for me
[17:42] <wilee-nilee> bakflash you can use rsync or a gui that uses it like grsync
[17:42] <talsamon> bakflash,  try rsync
[17:42] <basketball> ActionParsnip,  i am confused
[17:43] <Guest30991> hey guys, i just flushed winblows for ubuntu and everything is great, i'm just wondering is there a way i can control my webcam pan and zoom settings, thanks for your time
[17:43] <bakflash> wilee-nilee: I'm only ssh'ing into it, so I can't use a GUI ;) but you + talsamon: good idea to use rsync, I'll try this
[17:43] <legion> Can someone tel me what KALI is?
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> !info firestarter
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> awww
[17:44] <wilee-nilee> Guest30991, Using deprecating modification od OS's is not tolerated here.
[17:44] <wilee-nilee> of OS's names*
[17:44] <bekks> !kali | legion
[17:44] <lucido> tgm4883, upgraded java, same difference
[17:44] <genii> !guvcview | Guest30991
[17:45] <genii> Bah.
[17:45] <genii> !info guvcview | Guest30991
[17:46] <mikebuntu> hey guys, i just flushed winblows for ubuntu and everything is great, i'm just wondering is there a way i can control my webcam pan and zoom settings, thanks for your time
[17:46] <basketball> ActionParsnip,
[17:46] <basketball> how do i do it
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> basketball: all i can suggest is grab a youtube video. You do realise the system will need to be on to give web access, could get a wireless router and run it in client mode to extend to th system, or just run a cable from the main trouter
[17:46] <kdz> how do i delete a read only file in ubuntu console
[17:47] <wilee-nilee> mikebuntu, Use the correct name for windows the fandoi rhetoric is not appreciated here.
[17:47] <wilee-nilee> fanboi*
[17:47] <genii> mikebuntu: Try the package guvcview
[17:47] <mikebuntu> oh i'm sorry ab out that
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> basketball: not something ive setup, i use a hard router. lots easier and uses less power
[17:47] <mikebuntu> thanks genii
[17:48] <wilee-nilee> mikebuntu, Thanks, not a huge deal, but myself that gets a free ignore. ;)
[17:48] <bakflash> wilee-nilee: talsamon: rsync --progress [..] shows that its pending from ~50mb/s to 100mb/s to some kb and I can not cancel it then.. I dunno but this is weird for me, still not sure if it could be the drive
[17:48] <bakflash> it's kind of.. frozen
[17:48] <mikebuntu> sorry guys
[17:48] <joanne2014> HI
[17:48] <kdz> aww ignored, how do i delete a read only file console?
[17:49] <rigo> wilee-nilee: another one. depends the installation on the installation media? i mean can it be bad, if it is formatted wrong or has bad partition table?
[17:49] <wilee-nilee> bakflash, I just do this with local drives, under your circumstances I would not really know the issues.
[17:50] <bakflash> wilee-nilee: na wait, this is still local!
[17:50] <bakflash> wilee-nilee: I'm just on a server via ssh, that's all.
[17:50] <wilee-nilee> rigo, Install media should be good, you can check the sum of the iso and a loaded usb or cd. You can format a usb including it's partitio table.
[17:51] <bakflash> wilee-nilee: and this 'weird behavior' is still the same with rsync. can copy from/to one of those drives pretty fast when I use a third drive as source/target
[17:51] <wilee-nilee> bakflash, I just use grsync, I have about the same data as backups and two HD, I use grsync.
[17:51] <Bashing-om> kdz: What file are you wanting to delete ? normally a read only file - not in your home directory - is a system file. Not to mess around with.
[17:51] <wilee-nilee> bakflash, Two HD one is a backup of the backups
[17:52] <wilee-nilee> and I'm not even OCD, lol
[17:52] <kdz> Bashing-om rtorrent died and its a .lock file
[17:52] <kdz> if killed the program but the file is still there
[17:53] <Bashing-om> kdz: If one wants to change the permissions on a file, 'chmod' is the tool to use, see -> man chmod .
[17:54] <kdz> Bashing-om what would the command be ?
[17:55] <Bashing-om> kdz: If all you are going to do is delete that file, then -> sudo chmod 777 <file_name> <- will do the trick.
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> kdz: try:    sudo fuser -vki filename
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> kdz: obviously change 'filename' for the actual name
[17:57] <kdz> chmod: changing permissions of `rtorrent.lock': Read-only file system
[17:57] <kdz> chmod 777 and fuser didnt work
[17:58] <phillyj> anyone know why aticonfig command gives an error after install fglrx? I found aticonfig in a dir under fglrx but...i don't know, so confusing
[18:06] <Bashing-om> kdz: " Read-only file system" means you have a system problem, most likely the system set it's self to 'ro' to protect it's self. Run a file system check and see.
[18:08] <cortexman> my laptop is booting into some kind of root maintenance shell. in my home directory there are two files, README.txt and Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop. the README.txt says "THIS DIRECTORY HAS BEEN UNMOUNTED TO PROTECT YOUR DATA. [...] From the command line, run "encryptfs-mount-private". However, I do not have encryptfs-mount-private installed...
[18:09] <Bashing-om> phillyj: Maybe as sudo aticonfig --initial is depreciated, did you use -> sudo amdconfig --initial <-- ?
[18:13] <Rick__> Hello?
[18:14] <Rick__> Can someone help me with a quick question?
[18:14] <bekks> Depends on your question.
[18:15] <litropy> !ask
[18:16] <phillyj> Bashing-om: hmm, i see. I will look into that when I get home
[18:16] <owen1> my laptop suspends every few minutes despite settings it to 'never'. i tried 'xset s off' but it's not working. any tips?
[18:17] <Rick__> My terminal will allow me to type in commands but when it comes to to enter my password it freezes up and will not allow me to type. Can someone explain this?
[18:18] <Bashing-om> Rick__: For security reasons, when you enter your pass word there is no response to the screen, just enter your pass word blindly and hit the enter key.
[18:19] <mish4> I am  using Ubuntu 14.04 and keep getting "waiting for printer to finish" when I try to print to the network printer. Using mac to print to the network printer works fine. Any ideas?
[18:19] <Rick__> Bashing-om: thank you.
[18:20] <Bashing-om> Rick__: : D ., welcome to our world.
[18:21] <Rick__> Bashing-om: Thanks man. I've always been curious about ubuntu so. I threw together a computer and decided to get down to brass tacks and just jump feet first into it.
[18:21] <diamonds> is it possible to access one's iphone files from the shell?
[18:21] <diamonds> where is it mounted to by default?
[18:21] <diamonds> I have a path in finder like "afc://a80339c6f0a64fd5d0184339e:3/"
[18:21] <ikonia> diamonds: apple support - not good,
[18:21] <diamonds> I know
[18:21] <ikonia> diamonds: it's a bit of a moving target,
[18:22] <ikonia> so try to find a solution you can depend on
[18:22] <diamonds> but a moment ago I was able to pull a .sqlite file off my iphone
[18:22] <diamonds> then had to restart X & now I can't access anything on the phone in that way
[18:22] <ikonia> diamonds: I think that's some sort of index
[18:22] <ikonia> diamonds: you can't access the file system directly
[18:22] <Bashing-om> Rick__: That is the way you do it. use it and learn it ( if it ain't broke you have not tweaked it enough ) .
[18:22] <ikonia> I've only seen it done sucesfully with a jail broken device and ssh
[18:24] <kleinerdrache> hi there, what is a good way to tag nef raws with xmp?
[18:26] <ysh> hello is it possible to resize a live non-lvm partition ?
[18:26] <litropy> diamonds, http://techland.time.com/2013/08/27/bittorrent-sync-for-ios-iphone-to-computer-backups-with-a-catch/
[18:26] <ikonia> ysh: yes, there are risks, and normally need to use a live media system to reconfigure it, if it's a root or "in use" file system
[18:27] <litropy> diamonds, there are better resources - that was just a quick Google. But you get the idea.
[18:27] <ysh> its a google compute instance... they dont have lvm on there preconfigured VM images :/
[18:28] <katiejeank> having issues w/ live boot usb
[18:28] <ikonia> ysh: they will be hard sized partitions
[18:28] <ysh> yes 11GB
[18:28] <Armag3dd0n1> ubuntu 12.04.4 keeps saying something about swap not mounted
[18:28] <Armag3dd0n1> going back to 14.04 oh yeah :p
[18:28] <ikonia> ysh: you can't resize that as they will be locked/presented from the physical host
[18:29] <katiejeank> can someone help me?
[18:29] <Rick__> Hello Katie. Just toss out your question and someone will help if they can :3
[18:30] <katiejeank> my live usb isn't booting
[18:30] <ysh> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/yj0nMYKs
[18:30] <ysh> fdisk output
[18:30] <ikonia> ysh: what does that matter ? re-read what I said
[18:31] <ysh> :(
[18:31] <ysh> any workaround ?
[18:31] <ikonia> no
[18:31] <ikonia> again READ what I said
[18:31] <Rick__> Katie, what is it saying?
[18:31] <ysh> i read that :(
[18:33] <katiejeank> well, my prob is "the disk drive for /tmp is not ready or not present"  Im trying to use the live usb to recover, but it flat out isn't booting, just a black screen w/ a blinking cursor
[18:34] <Rick__> Sounds like the live usb is not loading properly. Have you tried to re-install the live usb then trying the fresh installed version?
[18:34] <katiejeank> i was going to install arch linux in a partition for fun, but had issues doing that, and since then haven't been able to boot back into ubuntu, frustrating
[18:35] <katiejeank> Rick__: ^and yeah, thats what i did Rick__
[18:36] <daftykins> katiejeank: perhaps you might have used nomodeset in the past?
[18:36] <daftykins> !nomodeset
[18:36] <katiejeank> maybe, not sure
[18:36] <daftykins> worth a go.
[18:36] <katiejeank> daftykins: not sure
[18:36] <jasonsw> i lost my gnome panel clock and other buttons
[18:37] <jasonsw> i think after an update
[18:37] <jasonsw> 13.10
[18:37] <jasonsw> any ideas ?
[18:37] <jasonsw> killall unity-panel-service doesn't help
[18:38] <wilee-nilee> jasonsw, What exact desktop is this?
[18:39] <wilee-nilee> unity?
[18:39] <katiejeank> daftykins:what is nomodset? u have a command i can use in recover read/write mode?
[18:43] <wilee-nilee> katiejeank, Have you had a chance to look at the link?
[18:45] <katiejeank> wilee-nilee: looking now
[18:45] <wilee-nilee> katiejeank, Could it be you loaded the arch grub into the mbr, is arch gone?
[18:45] <anonymous> hello
[18:46] <owen1> my laptop suspends every few minutes despite settings it to 'never'. i tried 'xset s off' but it's not working. any tips?
[18:47] <wilee-nilee> owen1, in 12.04 I found I had to just run in the cli  xset -dpms ; xset s off  I was never able to get it to stop the suspend
[18:48] <wilee-nilee> automatically
[18:50] <asker345> hello, i need help accessing the windows recovery console while ubuntu is installed.
[18:51] <asker345> F8 is not working after grub.
[18:51] <wilee-nilee> asker345, Can you be more detailed?
[18:51] <wilee-nilee> asker345, F8 would be at the bios splash to work.
[18:52] <owen1> wilee-nilee: awesome. i'll try xset -dpms ; xset s off
[18:52] <asker345> wilee-nilee, but theres grub interrupting it
[18:52] <katiejeank> wilee-nilee: yeah, about arch, i couldn't install it, something failed and just ended up at a terminal screen
[18:52] <asker345> wilee-nilee, so what can i do in this case?
[18:52] <wilee-nilee> asker345, Power on and start tapping the f8 like your were at war with an enemy.
[18:53] <asker345> wilee-nilee, even before grub?
[18:53] <katiejeank> wilee-nilee: then after that, can't boot ubuntu
[18:53] <wilee-nilee> asker345, Yes
[18:54] <asker345> ok, will be right back i guess ;)
[18:54] <wilee-nilee> katiejeank, Did you resize ubuntu with the arch install, and are you sure ubuntu is still there?
[18:55] <synth_> i accidentally upgraded libevent and am now getting this error when using pymongo:
[18:55] <synth_> ugh
[18:55] <katiejeank> when i reboot off the hdd, i get a purple screen boot options/mem tests
[18:55] <synth_> didn't paste
[18:55] <AK47isMyADDRESS> Hello :)
[18:56] <katiejeank> wilee-nilee: and when i try to boot into ubuntu from there, it says mount is not ready or missing
[18:56] <wilee-nilee> !bootinfo | katiejeank run from a live cd and pastebin results
[18:56] <synth_> i recently upgraded libevent on accident and am now getting this error: http://sprunge.us/dcUi any idea how i could easily downgrade libevent? i've also tried upgrading gevent by doing pip install --upgrade gevent; however, i'm still getting the error.
[18:56] <asker345> wilee-nilee, didnt work like expected. i think this only work with windows mbr
[18:57] <wilee-nilee> katiejeank> when i reboot off the hdd, i get a purple screen boot options/mem tests This sounds like a live session booting.
[18:57] <ysh> ikonia: i resized it successfully, but i would suggest no one to do that.... because i was on no risk... there was no data on it :)
[18:58] <wilee-nilee> asker345, What kind of recovery is this, and why are you not asking in ##windows
[18:58] <CrowX-> I installed teamviewer and now I always have a teamviewer process in the background, no matter how many times I kill it
[18:58] <ikonia> ysh: I don't understand what you are saying
[18:58] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu does not have this power. asker345
[18:58] <AK47isMyADDRESS> Hi what are these error's? http://pastebin.com/eKpcNHTL
[18:58] <CrowX-> how do I make it only run when I actually run the program?
[18:58] <CrowX-> this is the process /opt/teamviewer9/tv_bin/teamviewerd -f
[18:59] <asker345> wilee-nilee, its the normal recovery console.. its because i have installed ubuntu/grub. on a normal windows install it would be work, thats why i ask here.
[18:59] <ysh> ikonia: i resize that sda1, by deleting partion using fdisk and carfully creating partion with same start block and new end block and then using resize2fs
[18:59] <ysh> *carefully
[19:00] <ikonia> ysh: that's not resizing a partition
[19:00] <ikonia> oh I see new end block
[19:00] <wilee-nilee> asker345, You don't use grub or ubuntu to access the windows recovery in general, I have had computers that would. What is the end goal here?
[19:00] <ysh> :)
[19:00] <ikonia> ysh: I don't see how you can resize the root file system while it's in use
[19:01] <wilee-nilee> asker345, This is a last ditch approach
[19:02] <asker345> wilee-nilee, i have to manipulate windows that way. so the goal is to reach recovery console. i know that u do not need grub to do it, its causing the problem, so its quite the opposite.
[19:03] <ysh> ikonia: this http://pastebin.com/0KRKmDy6
[19:03] <katiejeank> unrecognized mount option "x-gvfs-show" or missing value.  Root filesystem check failed.
[19:03] <katiejeank> anyone know what this means?
[19:04] <scoofy> hello.
[19:04] <wilee-nilee> asker345, your reasoning is faulty, that is accessible if working and you have not broke something before you see gru, or using a recovery disc.
[19:04] <wilee-nilee> grub*
[19:04] <Platypus-Man> so, I'm trying to install GNU/Linux on a new laptop I purchased for my uncle.. but get a rather error: http://bildr.no/image/d3NjNGlJ.jpeg
[19:04] <mexi_d3> asker345: windows 7 recovery console?
[19:04] <wilee-nilee> asker345, If you see grub, you have not hit the right keys, it's to late.
[19:04] <Platypus-Man> * rather cryptic error
[19:05] <synth_> that error is awesome
[19:05] <asker345> mexi_d3, yes
[19:05] <scoofy> any idea what can cause this? http://pastebin.com/4MThPYrt
[19:05] <asker345> wilee-nilee, even holding dont work, trust me
[19:06] <mexi_d3> asker345: It doesn;t install when you install win7. You need to get it by booting off the windows CD - or yu can install it from inside win7 (before it breaks of course)
[19:06] <mexi_d3> asker345: Your problem is it's not aware of grub
[19:06] <katiejeank> unrecognized mount option "x-gvfs-show" or missing value.  Root filesystem check failed. what is this?
[19:06] <wilee-nilee> asker345, Dude I know this stuff, somewhere something has been broken or your not using the correct prompts, or the menu you need is a different prompt, once you see grub you are to late.
[19:07] <asker345> mexi_d3, thats what i mean. i need a way to still access it. its not broken btw. i just need to access it. lets focus on that.
[19:07] <mexi_d3> asker345: Can you boot into windows?
[19:07] <asker345> asker345, yes
[19:07] <wilee-nilee> asker345, Where is your winodws recovery or install disc, that is what you need if you cannot get in.
[19:08] <YourUsername> Hello! =)
[19:08] <mexi_d3> asker345: Then boot into windows and install the recovery console.  OK that does work but how did you create it?
[19:10] <wilee-nilee> asker345, and where did you get the media to load the stick, what is it exactly?
[19:11] <asker345> mexi_d3, thats years ago. but it was a safe way, as i do things. i also installed from it successfully
[19:11] <mexi_d3> Let me get this right. You used the microsoft USB boot tool to make a bootable windows 7 flash installer?
[19:11] <wilee-nilee> asker345, Honestly this is a windows issue, use their channel ##windows this is off topic here.
[19:12] <mexi_d3> Hrm you're right it is kind of off topic but I don't want him to have to reinstall everythign :)
[19:12] <wilee-nilee> mexi_d3, I have been trying to help them, I know this stuff, what we want personally is not a factor.
[19:12] <asker345> wilee-nilee, its a grub issue in my eyes, but im on #windows too
[19:13] <wilee-nilee> asker345, Your eyes are clouded with assumptions.
[19:13] <asker345> wilee-nilee, i mean the root of the problem, not the stick
[19:13] <adamcunnington> Hi, i'm trying to recode the video codec of my file to xvid but i'm getting an error - what do i need to install to support xvid? a search yielded nothing blindingly obviouz
[19:13] <adamcunnington> obvious*
[19:13] <mexi_d3> i'll leave it to you then wilee-nilee since oyu've got more history on the problem. But if you want to know to install windows from the command line (yes it can do that), i'm here :-)
[19:14] <ikonia> ytw: again - I don't see how you can resize a mounted root file system
[19:14] <asker345> wilee-nilee, well, it would work without grub installed, since i did that dozen times before..
[19:15] <wilee-nilee> asker345, This is a pointless circular argument. Get the right tools and help at ##windows.
[19:20] <adamcunnington> Hi, i'm trying to recode the video codec of my file to xvid but i'm getting an error - what do i need to install to support xvid? a search yielded nothing blindingly obvious
[19:21] <k1l> !codecs
[19:23] <adamcunnington> Can anyone help with this error please? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7546143/
[19:24] <genii> adamcunnington: What says the result of: avconv -encoders | grep xvid    ..?
[19:24] <adamcunnington> genii: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7546152/
[19:25] <adamcunnington> genii: oh pastebinit didn't work, 1 sec
[19:25] <adamcunnington> genii: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7546163/
[19:25] <finn_> hey guys
[19:25] <Platypus-Man> !??? ???
[19:25] <finn_> im new to irc
[19:26] <Platypus-Man> bah, no tips for the ??? ??? error
[19:26] <finn_> How do i create a channel? If i can?
[19:26] <genii> adamcunnington: So you have xvid encoding installed already, it's a matter of some improper flag or option etc in your conversion command.
[19:26] <adamcunnington> genii: that doesn't make sense though because if i swap xvid for x264 it works fine
[19:27] <finn_> #basil
[19:28] <finn_> Guys how do i join a channel/Make one?
[19:28] <ikonia> finn_: join #freenode and ask
[19:28] <finn_> Thanks
[19:28] <finn_> join #hi
[19:29] <adamcunnington> genii: does this change anything? this error output is more verbose; http://paste.ubuntu.com/7546188/
[19:29] <finn_> ikonia
[19:29] <Pici> finn_: commands start with a /   so you want to type /join #freenode
[19:29] <Pici> or whatever
[19:29] <finn_> i did /join hi as a test and it seemed to create one
[19:29] <genii> adamcunnington: I would just try something like: avconv -i inputfilename -c:v mpeg4 outputname
[19:30] <finn_> and yes i know most if not all commands start with a /
[19:30] <Fuchs> finn_: http://blog.freenode.net/2008/04/registering-a-channel-on-freenode/
[19:30] <Fuchs> hth.
[19:30] <Fuchs> all.
[19:30] <Fuchs> also http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml
[19:30] <finn_> guys
[19:30] <finn_> Just type /join (Your channel name) and i think it creates one.
[19:31] <ikonia> finn_: if you need help using freenode, read the links Fuchs gave you or join #freenode and ask for help
[19:31] <finn_> I dont need help.
[19:31] <adamcunnington> genii: does that doa nything to the audio codec?
[19:32] <Rosbuntu> im using voyager distro of ubuntu and my weather app is not working
[19:32] <Rosbuntu> how do i fix that
[19:32] <Pici> finn_: okay. Just keep in mind that #ubuntu is for Ubuntu support :)
[19:32] <finn_> I was saying doing /join (Your channel name) seemed to create one
[19:32] <adamcunnington> genii: i need to recode the audio codec to mp3 and then the video to mp4 and then save the container as mp4
[19:32] <ikonia> Rosbuntu voyager distro of ubuntu - there is no ubuntu version called "voyager"
[19:32] <Rosbuntu> ikonia its french i guess.. im using.. can u google
[19:32] <k1l> Rosbuntu: please see the voyager support. we dont know what they changed in there
[19:32] <genii> adamcunnington: If you need to recode the audio also, I'd check the avconv manpage for syntax
[19:33] <Rosbuntu> k1l do they have official support room
[19:33] <Rosbuntu> or u know something..
[19:33] <Rosbuntu> where i can ask for
[19:33] <adamcunnington> genii: anyidea what the package is called? can't install avconv
[19:34] <adamcunnington> oh it's built int, my bad
[19:34] <k1l> Rosbuntu: i dont speak french. see their website
[19:34] <Rosbuntu> okkey
[19:34] <genii> adamcunnington: It's the default one for Ubuntu now, they moved away from ffmpeg
[19:34] <Rosbuntu> k1l thank you very much, u know a lot and u r a gret helper, god bless u
[19:35] <genii> adamcunnington: I think the syntax is like -acodec <codecname>
[19:35] <adamcunnington> genii: ah ok, yea think you can use -c:a too
[19:37] <genii> adamcunnington: And you can find the available codecs with the -encoders or -decoders
[19:37] <iamtehking> i am teh king
[19:43] <alnassafi> Hi all
[19:44] <MACscr> if spamd is running as debian-spamd, does that mean that the /usr/share/perl5/Mail/SpamAssassin/ should be owned by debian-spamd as well? seems like it only has issues reading some of them, which doesnt make much sense since they are all owned by root
[19:45] <sauce> i need to install an SSL cert in either /usr/share/ca-certificates OR /usr/local/share/ca-certificates.  whats the difference between /usr and /usr/local?
[19:46] <sauce> yes i know i could put it at /root/whateverwhocares but i am trying to stick to sensible best practices
[19:48] <mexi_d3> sauce: /local is stuff youve installed on your machine
[19:48] <mexi_d3> sauce: as opposed to stuff the distro bundled
[19:48] <sauce> yes i agree with yiou. i guess neither is the right location for this file
[19:49] <sauce> this is more of an ubuntu-server question, but where would you put an SSL cert that you need to store?  specifically for connecting to MySQL databases
[19:49] <sauce> i.e. mysql -h myinstance.c9akciq32.rds-us-east-1.amazonaws.com --ssl_ca=/SOMEWHERE/rds-ssl-ca-cert.pem
[19:50] <n88> sauce: /etc/ssl/
[19:50] <sauce> so /etc/ssl/rds-ssl-ca-cert.pem makes sense?
[19:51] <n88> yep
[19:52] <aster-x> :P
[19:56] <fghfghfghfrghf> ts3.wesgg.com ddos
[19:56] <bekks> fghfghfghfrghf: Wrong channel.
[19:56] <aster-x> please, can i have a cloack for my ip?
[19:56] <fghfghfghfrghf> wrong u
[19:57] <fghfghfghfrghf> u can suck
[19:57] <bekks> !ops | fghfghfghfrghf
[19:57] <bekks> thanks :)
[19:57] <aster-x> :P
[19:57] <bekks> aster-x: You have to ask for a cloak in #freenode
[19:57] <k1l> aster-x: for freenode cloaks ask in #freenode
[19:58] <Fuchs> and before you ask:
[19:58] <Fuchs> log in to your account
[20:00] <aster-x> bekks, now
[20:00] <bekks> aster-x: Now ask in #freenode :)
[20:00] <aster-x> bekks, ok thanks
[20:01] <aster-x> k1l, ok
[20:01] <Laomak> Hi guys... I try to connect my Firefox with my owncloud... With version 28 on Windows 8 it was working but now with Ubuntu 14.04 the option the set my own server is gone... How can I get it working again?
[20:02] <Fuchs> Laomak: that is due to firefox switching to a new sync service with version 29
[20:03] <Fuchs> Laomak: see http://docs.services.mozilla.com/howtos/run-sync-1.5.html,  I think the owncloud plugin wasn't updated yet, so you can't use that any more
[20:03] <Laomak> -.- But I don't trust a cloud which isn't an ownCloud#
[20:03] <Laomak> -.- But I don't trust a cloud which isn't an ownCloud
[20:03] <Fuchs> Laomak: well, there is an older version of firefox that gets long term support
[20:03] <Fuchs> you could switch to that, I guess
[20:04] <Laomak> Okay... I will up for it... Thx
[20:09] <sauce> n88 thanks
[20:10] <TheSadITGuy> Hey everyone.
[20:10] <TheSadITGuy> Hows it going?
[20:11] <TheSadITGuy> Had a quick question...  I am getting the following in my syslog like crazy...  its an app i wrote. I just need to clarify that this is infact declaring the process dead?
[20:11] <TheSadITGuy> May 29 19:56:40 eventp01 kernel: [2435358.195829] init: relay-rails main process (3109) terminated with status 1 May 29 19:56:40 eventp01 kernel: [2435358.195901] init: relay-rails main process ended, respawning
[20:11] <TheSadITGuy> And then upstart is bringing it back up?
[20:15] <trism> TheSadITGuy: yes
[20:18] <trism> TheSadITGuy: if your app logs errors to stdout/err you might check /var/log/upstart/relay-rails.log to see what happened
[20:25] <poeticrpm> I am going to install ubuntu to an external harddrive. My system is UEFI. Do I have to worry about the installer overwriting something in my firmware and thus locking me out of my internal SSD drive? Im going to remove the ssd drive to make sure nothing is changed on disk
[20:26] <poeticrpm> since Ive heard the buntu installer will do that
[20:27] <poeticrpm> I have tried in vein for over a day to get my external to boot, but my bios doesnt seem to recognize the UEFI partition I have on the external drive. Im using the installer as a last resort
[20:28] <elichai2> hey
[20:28] <elichai2> need help with this guide:
[20:28] <elichai2> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeEncryptedPartitions
[20:28] <elichai2> on the subject: "Detailed resizing ~ Enlarging an encrypted partition"
[20:28] <elichai2> step 3. what i need to do?
[20:30] <adamcunnington> i've just created a file without including the dirname in the path - where would it be?
[20:30] <poeticrpm> adamcunnington, what do you mean? In the terminal?
[20:30] <poeticrpm> paste the relevant terminal line here (just the first one)
[20:31] <elichai2> please? anyone?
[20:31] <poeticrpm> most likely /home/user/fileyoumade.txt
[20:31] <poeticrpm> elichai2, I would help, but I no 0 about anything to do with encryption sorry
[20:31] <poeticrpm> i did look :|
[20:32] <adamcunnington> poeticrpm: yea
[20:32] <adamcunnington> poeticrpm: what location would it have been created it
[20:32] <poeticrpm> adamcunnington, whatever the location the terminal is set at. By default, if you open it as a user (and not as root), anything created will be in your home folder.
[20:33] <adamcunnington> poeticrpm: that's what i thought but they're not in the home folder :|
[20:33] <poeticrpm> adamcunnington, if its not there, please paste the line where you created that file
[20:34] <adamcunnington> petris: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7546545/
[20:36] <poeticrpm> adamcunnington, the main thing I was looking for was the first part, eg [poeticrpm@codething ~]$mencoder etc etc...
[20:36] <elichai2> need help :(
[20:36] <poeticrpm> i was just making sure you were actually in home
[20:36] <elichai2> "3. Use fdisk as above to delete and then re-create a larger crypt partition."
[20:36] <elichai2> what does it means?
[20:37] <Burrito> elichai2, maybe see the section "Enlarge an encrypted partition" right above that.
[20:37] <elichai2> Burrito: i saw but i didn't understood step3
[20:37] <elichai2> can u plz explain it for me?
[20:38] <adamcunnington> poeticrpm: ah
[20:38] <adamcunnington> poeticrpm: thanks, found them!
[20:38] <Burrito> It says "as above", so it is explained "above".
[20:38] <poeticrpm> adamcunnington, idk man. You can try looking in the same directory you made the file from (the /media/* one)
[20:38] <Burrito> elichai2, * It says "as above", so it is explained "above".
[20:38] <user1567> hello guys, i have been using linux for over 3 years and i am not sure if i get this joke right
[20:38] <poeticrpm> adamcunnington, cool
[20:38] <xpistos> Hey all. Is there a way that I can move all files in nested folders to the parent folder? Just the files not the folders.
[20:38] <user1567> xD
[20:38] <user1567> http://i.imgur.com/ggmgl.jpg
[20:38] <Burrito> elichai2, I will try and find a better guide, I need to go
[20:38] <elichai2> Burrito: this is the as above: sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda6
[20:39] <elichai2> it's not the problem
[20:39] <elichai2> the problem is about deleting and re-creating
[20:39] <elichai2> delete what?
[20:39] <Burrito> elichai2,  nah, way above that.
[20:39] <elichai2> my own encrypted partition?
[20:39] <Burrito> one sec, *trying to find a better guide*
[20:39] <Burrito> I have to go.
[20:40] <picca> user1567, don't get it ;)
[20:40] <xpistos> I found this but it copies instead of moving - find ~/Downloads/ -maxdepth 1 -type f -print0 | xargs -0 mv -t ~/Videos here, `-maxdepth` option specifies how deep find should try,
[20:40] <elichai2> byohhh i think i relaized, but better guide is better :)
[20:40] <elichai2> (but i need a safe one, ok? i don't want to backup)
[20:40] <xpistos> or this is it rather -- find ~/Downloads/ -type f -print0 | xargs -0 mv -t ~/Videos
[20:41] <user1567> picca, i know there is missing text before : but still is there something else
[20:42] <alumno__> hola
[20:42] <alumno__> como estan
[20:42] <Burrito> elichai2, sorry, I expected to find a better one on ArchWiki (since I've often found better guides there), but couldn't find one...
[20:42] <Pici> !es | alumno__
[20:43] <alumno__> haaa
[20:43] <alumno__> thanks
[20:43] <sauce> ubottu jajajaja
[20:45] <elichai2> ok.... so maybe i'll just need to backup :(
[20:45] <elichai2> any way to backup a whole distro?
[20:46] <elichai2> Burrito: what do you say about: http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=redo
[20:46] <vilambit> elichai2: dd if=/dev/yourdisk of=distro.iso ?
[20:46] <elichai2> ?
[20:46] <wols> elichai2: clonezilla
[20:46] <OerHeks> !backup
[20:46] <OerHeks> !cloning
[20:47] <elichai2> vilambit: noooo i need something i can later burn or restore with a resotring program
[20:47] <elichai2> wols: clonezilla can restore too?
[20:47] <vilambit> elichai2: dd works fine for that no?
[20:47] <OerHeks> you can make a list of packages, saves tons of mb's
[20:48] <wols> elichai2: a backup program that cannot restore is a bit useless...
[20:49] <elichai2> wols: if later i'll run dd if=distro.iso of=/dev/yourdisk. it will restore everything?
[20:49] <elichai2> even if it's encrypted?
[20:50] <elichai2> it will restore it with the encryption?
[20:50] <wols> elichai2: no
[20:50] <wols> using dd for a backup is possible but a very bad idea
[20:50] <ianorlin> it would still be encrypted
[20:51] <Armag3dd0n24> back like a house on fire, love ubuntu!
[20:51] <synth_> back like a house on fire?
[20:51] <elichai2> wols: so?
[20:52] <wols> elichai2: how big is the amount of data you want to back up?
[20:52] <elichai2> wols: lol u said to use dd for a backup :P
[20:52] <elichai2> ~75GB
[20:52] <wols> elichai2: no I did not. please read more carefully
[20:52] <Platypus-Man> can I do the install via command-line to see where it fails?
[20:52] <elichai2> ohh sorry vilambit said it
[21:03] <abdelmalek> Hi
[21:04] <khax> HI
[21:05] <abdelmalek> khax: i use linuxmint, and i want to know how to configure the internet with flashdisk
[21:07] <rcsheets> Is there a hardware certification program for 14.04? http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/desktop/ only mentions 12.04.
[21:08] <erle-> launchpad does not file libav bugs
[21:08] <erle-> but there is a bug in ubuntu that does not exist in upstream
[21:08] <erle-> avconv encoded webms do not play in firefox
[21:10] <cortexman> i'm trying to upgrade from saucy to trusty but it says "An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade". i think this laptop was in fact upgraded to saucy when it was still in pre-release
[21:10] <cortexman> how do I fix it..?
[21:11] <cortexman> anyone here?
[21:11] <cortexman> or 1832 unattended irc clients?
[21:12] <k1l> !patience
[21:12] <cortexman>  gee that was helpful
[21:12] <cortexman> i wish i had a bot to follow me around life like that
[21:12] <cortexman> koanbot
[21:13] <cortexman> it would give irrelevant, unhelpful, contradictory advice endlessly
[21:13] <cortexman> winning
[21:13] <k1l> a possible cause for your errors are PPAs. remove the 3rd party packages
[21:13] <cortexman> ahh i did remove all that stuff
[21:13] <synth_> cortexman we have the technology
[21:13] <cortexman> lol
[21:13] <k1l> cortexman: stop ranting in here. this is an volunteers support channel. no need to for that
[21:14] <cortexman> is ranting about rants a meta-rant and therefore a rant?
[21:14] <cortexman> seems like i do have some weird stuff in sources.list.d though
[21:15] <k1l> !ppa-purge | cortexman
[21:15] <bish0p_> My Skype on Ubuntu 12.04 isn't recognizing my webcam. Other web applications such as TinyChat can use it, so I know it's not a hardware problem. Is this a skype problem?
[21:18] <Stormer97_znc> hey, I'm running ubuntu 14.04 on an acer c710, and while attempting to change touchpad settings, I get this error: http://pastebin.com/gYWm5duf
[21:20] <Stormer97_znc> never mind, issue was caused because I set fingerhigh before fingerlow
[21:20] <cortexman> how do you know the ppa url for a ppa in sources.list.d/
[21:21] <MagicSpud> hello I cant get this working: http://askubuntu.com/questions/272475/how-to-eliminate-or-disable-the-gnome3-top-panel
[21:22] <MagicSpud> the gconf-editor I installed does not seem to have such option
[21:28] <cortexman> yeah i think this is the reason i can't upgrade: https://gist.githubusercontent.com/brianmingus/c313242b669c66d683dc/raw/afd1064bb334222301b17b2e61c8e7f29e11a1b9/gistfile1.txt
[21:29] <cortexman> > 700 packages that are no longer available in any of my active repos, including kubuntu-desktop...
[21:29] <xyproto> Hi. I'm trying to make a simple SDL2/C++ program compile on Ubuntu (Travis CI). Could someone please test if they get the same result as the testing output? I currently don't have access to an Ubuntu installation, only Arch Linux: https://travis-ci.org/xyproto/sdl2test/builds/26336976 Thanks
[21:30] <syeekick> msg nickservid
[21:30] <syeekick> sheet
[21:30] <syeekick> is it unsafe to install the dkms dependicies?
[21:30] <xyproto> What does pkg-config sdl2 --libs --cflags output on Ubuntu, after having installed sdl2?
[21:32] <Platypus-Man> regarding my "??? ???" error, turns out my laptop was setup with RAID0.. deleted the array via BIOS, changed a setting (boot method? don't remember...) from RAID to AHCI, trying to install again now.. fingers crossed
[21:38] <metho> whats the best channel for ubuntu server stuff?
[21:38] <Ben64> #ubuntu-server
[21:38] <metho> Ben64: thank you
[21:39] <xyproto> And for development-questions related to Ubuntu? :)
[21:39] <emacer> I'm trying to package up some cross compilers, each into a separate deb package, and some related tools/example code/etc into another deb package.  I want the tools/etc. to depend on ANY ONE OR MORE of the cross compiler packages, so that it can be installed so long as at least one of the cross compiler packages is installed.  Does anyone know how I can structure my packages to meet this need?
[21:39] <syeekick> is installing dkms a dangeours move/
[21:39] <xyproto> syeekick: no, works great when I've tried it. Don't consider it a dangerous move at all.
[21:40] <xyproto> syeekick: created by Dell, if I remember correctly. It is in their interest to make drivers work as they should.
[21:41] <hucasys> #jack
[21:42] <xyproto> emacer: it's been a while since I've packaged a deb package, but is there not a way for several packages to "provide" the same package, so that only the provided package can be depended on by the package in question?
[21:44] <emacer> xyproto, that's a good idea.  I'm new to creating deb packages, but I remember seeing something about 'provides' before.  I'll look into that.  Thanks!
[21:44] <xyproto> emacer: best of luck :)
[21:45] <ResupineEarth> hello
[21:45] <metho> ResupineEarth: hi
[21:45] <ResupineEarth> hi metho
[21:46] <ResupineEarth> is there someone can help me to tell me how to merge multiple bin files into an iso
[21:48] <metho> ResupineEarth: try this http://www.kbrandt.com/2007/07/batch-convert-multiple-bincue-files-to.html
[21:48] <ResupineEarth> thanks metho i will take a look
[21:50] <ResupineEarth> many thanks metho i will give that a go
[21:51] <metho> ResupineEarth: let me know if it doesnt work
[21:51] <ResupineEarth> thanks metho ill try it now
[21:52] <GursimerSingh> Hello World
[21:52] <GursimerSingh> I am in need of asstiance regarding a small python-problem, anyone can assist me?
[21:53] <GursimerSingh> class calculator: 	 	def addition(x,y): 		add = x + y 		print(add) 		 	def subtraction(x,y): 		sub = x - y 		print(sub) 		 	def multiple(x,y): 		mult = x * y 		print(mult) 		 	def divs(x,y): 		divi = x / y 		print(divi)		  calculator.addition(3,5)
[21:53] <GursimerSingh> script ain't workin
[21:53] <whitebyte> i have ubuntu 14.04 gnome. how make terminal transparent
[21:54] <GursimerSingh> LOL
[21:54] <GursimerSingh> Terminal > Profiloe
[21:54] <GursimerSingh> > Profile Settings
[21:54] <GursimerSingh> Background Transparent > %
[21:54] <xyproto> GursimerSingh: no need for a class when the functions are independent. Also, you probably want to "return" instead of "add ="
[21:54] <metho> ResupineEarth: if those commands dont work than try the bchunk
[21:54] <dfcnvt> GursimerSingh: You'll need to join in #python for help
[21:54] <GursimerSingh> I am learning to class.
[21:54] <xyproto> GursimerSingh: Also offtopic. And google and stackoverflow are your friends.
[21:54] <GursimerSingh> "No-need" but it works
[21:55] <metho> ResupineEarth: bchunk seems pretty straight farword
[21:55] <GursimerSingh> I googled
[21:55] <whitebyte> GursimerSingh: that doesnot work
[21:55] <GursimerSingh> and stackoverfloed
[21:55] <GursimerSingh> aint working
[21:55] <GursimerSingh> I saw YouTube tutorial
[21:55] <GursimerSingh> It worked
[21:55] <dfcnvt> GursimerSingh: Also, you may need to use bpaste.net whenever you paste it in.
[21:55] <wilee-nilee> !enter |GursimerSingh,
[21:55] <GursimerSingh> I copied perfectly
[21:55] <GursimerSingh> http://bpaste.net/show/3OPNSOkegG8MrDYWlpFp/
[21:55] <GursimerSingh> Thank you dear.
[21:56] <xyproto> GursimerSingh: cal = calculator(); cal.addition(3,5) should work
[21:56] <wilee-nilee> GursimerSingh, Try to not use the enter key so much, more in each single post please. ;)
[21:56] <xyproto> GursimerSingh: no class is needed, though, just use regular functions. And what the other people said.
[21:57] <jcstarken> why would my videos playing firefox seem blurry in 14.04 but not 12.04
[21:57] <mjayk> drivers codecs ?
[21:57] <mjayk> many reasons
[21:58] <Guest98257> hi
[21:58] <Ademan> is there a comprehensive list of language codes (ie en_US ja_JP.utf8 etc) somewhere?
[21:58] <GursimerSingh> cal = calculator() aint working dawg. I also thought it should work,
[21:59] <jcstarken> mjayk: ok I am running same open source drivers have not changed them and it is amazon video, is the open source drivers different in 14.04 than 12.04
[21:59] <Jordan_U> Ademan: What is your end goal?
[21:59] <xyproto> Ademan: /etc/locale.gen here, not sure if it's the same location on Ubuntu
[22:00] <mjayk> jcstarken: yes they are different you are using a different kernel correct?
[22:00] <Ademan> Jordan_U: determine the maximum length of these codes
[22:00] <bitblt> anyone work with preseeds? I'm passing ks=http://etc/mypreseed as a kernel opt, but it's not following it for some reason
[22:00] <__raven> 14.04 random network problems. no dns, no route, no connection at all with wired and wireless network. dhclient not possible. whats going on there??
[22:00] <jcstarken> mjayk: did not think about that thank you
[22:00] <k1l> GursimerSingh: maybe its better to ask in a python channel? see !alis   to find channels
[22:00] <Jordan_U> Ademan: What is your end goal?
[22:01] <GursimerSingh> Please, just answer.
[22:01] <en1gma> i have a computer that the video card does not work on it i justin stalled ubuntu 1404 from a ubs install onto a usb hard drive i selected login with user and pass (did it all from this laptop) i then shut off laptop and hooked it up to the computer withbad vcard and i powered on
[22:02] <xyproto> GursimerSingh: learn how to ask questions in a way that gives good answers. "it's not working" is not much to go by
[22:02] <en1gma> (from here on out im blind) i poweed on and i dont know if i just type my user : pass and hit enter but i did that after a few mins
[22:02] <Ademan> Jordan_U: I can assure you this is not an X-Y, like I said, I want to find the maximum length. So that I can appropriately size a database field
[22:02] <en1gma> i dont know if im at desktop. is there anyway i can ssh into it
[22:02] <mexi_d3> GursimerSingh: 1) you mighg have forgotten to create an instance of the calculator class; 2) you should be in #python
[22:02] <bitblt> en1gma, ctrl-alt-backspace
[22:02] <GursimerSingh> I am banned in #Python
[22:03] <Ademan> GursimerSingh: are you registered with nickserv?
[22:03] <bitblt> oh my
[22:03] <Fuchs> GursimerSingh: no you aren't, but you need an account
[22:03] <Fuchs> GursimerSingh: see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup or /msg nickserv help register  for the short version. Make sure to use a valid e-mail address and check for a confirmation e-mail after you registered.
[22:03] <GursimerSingh> Oh
[22:03] <en1gma> yea but how can i do it if im not sure im at desktop and from i ssh into it from my laptop isnt there a request i have to give it on the desktop?
[22:03] <GursimerSingh> Can I get Linux Mint assistance in this IRC too?
[22:03] <Fuchs> GursimerSingh: no, they are on a different network
[22:03] <GursimerSingh> k
[22:03] <GursimerSingh> tyvm
[22:04] <Fuchs> you're welcome
[22:04] <Alex365> hi!
[22:04] <en1gma> is there a way i can hook back up the hard drive to this laptop and preauthorize ssh so when i plug it back into desktop with no vcard it will be simple for me to ssh into it from the laptop?
[22:04] <dfcnvt> GursimerSingh: simply type /msg nickserv help register
[22:04] <Jordan_U> Ademan: /usr/share/i18n/SUPPORTED contains a pretty supported list, but I'm not aware of any limit on short code lengths so you may still be hit by a longer locale name in the future.
[22:05] <Jordan_U> Ademan: s/supported/comprehensive/
[22:05] <diego__> hi
[22:05] <diego__> anyone know why i m getting 1000fps at glxgears
[22:06] <diego__> at ubuntu 14.04
[22:06] <Ademan> diego__: because it's not a benchmark
[22:06] <mjayk> what Ademan said
[22:06] <diego__> recently installed amd drivers from amdwebsite
[22:06] <diego__> the lastest beta
[22:06] <diego__> and when i runned that last year at manjaron
[22:06] <diego__> manjaro
[22:06] <diego__> got 6000fps
[22:06] <diego__> i got two video cards
[22:06] <diego__> 6520g + 6470m
[22:06] <mjayk> so you had different drivers, a different kernel and a different os ? diego__
[22:07] <trndr> diego__, enter is not a replacement for ,
[22:07] <mjayk> could be any of the above
[22:07] <diego__> i had ubuntu 14.04
[22:07] <diego__> 3.13?
[22:07] <en1gma> i need a newer modern distro that dont even have to boot to X (it just needs to let all ssh in by default so i can troubleshoot from the laptop looking at the desktop hardware through ssh
[22:07] <mjayk> so you didnt get 6000 fps on manjaro that was on 14.04 last year ?
[22:07] <__raven> 14.04 random network problems. no dns, no route, no connection at all with wired and wireless network. dhclient not possible. whats going on there??
[22:07] <diego__> i get 6000fps on manjaro
[22:08] <diego__> last year
[22:08] <mjayk> and ?
[22:08] <Ademan> Jordan_U: thanks, I don't expect to care about super obscure locales anyways, but I'll pad out the field just to be safe
[22:08] <diego__> and now ubuntu 14.04 fps
[22:08] <wilee-nilee> en1gma, 14.04 is the latest release, nothing newer.
[22:08] <diego__> and just detect 6520g
[22:08] <mjayk> you change os, drivers and kernel and ask why the fps changes?
[22:08] <diego__> if i change
[22:08] <diego__> for a newer release
[22:08] <Jordan_U> Ademan: You're welcome.
[22:08] <diego__> why this is worst
[22:08] <mjayk>  because its different
[22:08] <en1gma> yea i mean like ubuntu 14.04 but it dont have to have X i just need a shell so i can ssh into the blind box so i dont have to answer any questions cause i cant see it
[22:09] <k1l> diego__: its not a benchmark
[22:09] <diego__> yeah
[22:09] <diego__> but amdcc
[22:09] <diego__> is not detecting two videocards
[22:09] <diego__> just detect 6520g
[22:09] <mjayk> diego__: try google
[22:09] <diego__> and not the 6470m
[22:09] <k1l> !enter | diego__
[22:09] <diego__> thats what i did
[22:09] <daftykins> diego__: stop pressing enter so much please, type on full lines
[22:09] <en1gma> ssh enabled distro that will boot to CLI even. just needs to not have any user interaction
[22:10] <wilee-nilee> en1gma, Use nicks here, we don't suggest distro's beyond the ubuntu group, try ##Linux for that if you're registered with #freenode
[22:10] <mexi_d3> en1gma: Ubuntu 14.04 server installs without a GUI
[22:10] <diego__> 13.04 showed me two videocards i remember but now 14.4 show me just 1
[22:10] <Ademan> is there still a "core" installer?
[22:10] <en1gma> mexi_d3, ewww that sounds interesting
[22:10] <Jordan_U> !minimal | Ademan
[22:11] <wilee-nilee> en1gma, look at the minimal bot info above as well.
[22:11] <sr71black> There is also the Ubuntu Core
[22:11] <diego__> nobody know how can i get work both cards?
[22:11] <en1gma> hopefully someone might know if there is no user interaction once i install it from the laptop and move that usb hard drive to the desktop with no video output and turn it on
[22:12] <en1gma> after i power on i wont be able to do anything
[22:12] <wilee-nilee> diego__, Have some patience do not spam the channel with info and when addressing others preface with their nick
[22:12] <en1gma> from a keyboard connted to that blind box. it will all have to be done over lan with this laptop connecting to it
[22:13] <Ademan> diego__: can you use 'lspci' from the command line, and paste the results here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and send us a link?
[22:14] <diego__> there it is http://pastebin.com/qKwtDRjN
[22:14] <Ademan> diego__: also try running "aticonfig --list-adapters" to see if it sees two (I sort of doubt it)
[22:15] <diego__> http://pastebin.com/LqFy2yCb
[22:15] <Ademan> diego__: hey so that's promising, it does recognize both
[22:16] <Ademan> but you said catalyst didn't show both?
[22:16] <diego__> but from amd catalyst control at info hardware it show me just 6520g
[22:16] <skinux> What is the name of the creator/editor app for making .desktop files for software downloaded+installed as tarballs (or otherwise compressed files excluding deb packages)?
[22:18] <diego__> a and when i played dota2 on manjaro y got better fps with medium graphics and with this ubuntu y played at low and 5-9 fps...
[22:20] <Ademan> so do you want to try to crossfire them, or just prefer the other card?
[22:20] <Ademan> actually can you paste the output of glxinfo also?
[22:21] <wilee-nilee> skinux, The command line, not sure there is app that does all that.
[22:21] <wilee-nilee> short of some compiler if I understand you
[22:21] <diego__> glxinfo http://pastebin.com/d5U09FHA
[22:22] <diego__> fglrx also show me just 6520g
[22:22] <trndr> skinux, you might want to read this http://linuxcritic.wordpress.com/2010/04/07/anatomy-of-a-desktop-file/
[22:24] <kypor__home> Hey can anyone help regarding ATI driver and black screen after reboot?
[22:25] <Ademan> diego__: hrm well you can do a few things with aticonfig. you *might* try sudo aticonfig --adapter=all --initial BUT***** go to #ati first and ask them, if it generates bad config you'll be pretty hosed until you fix it
[22:25] <diego__> #ati here at freenode?
[22:25] <Ademan> kypor__home: we were just discussing some other ATI issues, there's #ati if you're interested
[22:26] <Ademan> diego__: yep
[22:26] <Bashing-om> kypor__home: Try the boot parameter 'nomodeset; : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 .
[22:26] <kypor__home> Thanks. This has been an issue as long as I can remember which keeps me on windows. Ya tried nomodeset, doesn't work
[22:28] <kypor__home> Seems like x isn't displaying. Broken after ATI install
[22:28] <diego__> kypor how u installed ur driver
[22:29] <Bashing-om> kypor__home: What is the graphics card ? are we talking hybrid graphics here ?
[22:29] <diego__> ati/ati
[22:29] <diego__> intel/ati or just ati
[22:31] <skinux> .desktop files should be saved in /usr/share/app-install/ and /home/$user/Desktop, right?
[22:33] <bprompt> skinux:  yes
[22:33] <kypor__home> How do I know if its hybrid?
[22:34] <diego__> how many videocards  u know
[22:34] <kypor__home> Installed from ATI creating packages. Installed with dpkg
[22:34] <diego__> u have sorry
[22:34] <diego__> make a lspci and paste it at pastebin.com
[22:35] <kypor__home> It is a laptop with ATI HD 5730 and Intel i7
[22:35] <diego__> intel/ati
[22:35] <Bashing-om> kypor__home: At the present time, to find out we would have to ask the system. Can you boot a liveDVD to the desk top ?
[22:35] <kypor__home> I can boot to recovery. I'm ok at root
[22:35] <skinux> I see in a tutorial to place them at /$home/.local/applications/, but my system doesn't even have that.
[22:36] <diego__> i7 with gpu? intel integrated graphics
[22:36] <diego__> ?
[22:36] <kypor__home> Not that I'm aware of
[22:36] <kypor__home> Lspci VGA gives ATI card
[22:37] <mexi_d3> skinux: Is that .desktop files? You can create that folder if you need to.
[22:37] <diego__> make the lspci and paste that in pastebin.com
[22:37] <arfent> Quick question: you know when you enable ufw, and its default is all incoming connections are disabled, and all outgoing connections are enabled? If so, why is my browser still working fine, shouldn't port 80 incoming be enabled for it to work?
[22:38] <bprompt> skinux:    yes, you can also place them at ~/.local/share/applications
[22:38] <mexi_d3> skinux: It should be ~/.local/share/applications
[22:38] <mexi_d3> Sorry for double post.
[22:38] <kypor__home> Sorry can't in recovery. I'm on a tablet ATM
[22:38] <diego__> well
[22:39] <diego__> is ur i7 sandy ivy haswell
[22:39] <diego__> 1 gen 2 gen
[22:39] <diego__> wich one
[22:39] <mustafa_> ERROR: dependencies ‘session’, ‘RMySQL’ are not available for package ‘concerto’
[22:39] <mustafa_> * removing ‘/usr/lib/R/library/concerto’
[22:40] <mustafa_> any1 familiar with concerto installation on ubuntu
[22:40] <Bashing-om> kypor__home: "lspce" shows no other than the ATI card ? .. I can not explain then why "nomodeset" will not boot to some kind of graphics display // in the recovery mode, can you then get to the GUI ?
[22:40] <Bashing-om> *lspci
[22:40] <mustafa_> any1 familiar with concerto installation on ubuntu
[22:41] <kypor__home> No, lspci | Grip VGA displays ATI card. Ya nomodeset doesn't do anything
[22:41] <kypor__home> I think its 4th gen Intel i7
[22:43] <kypor__home> Sorry maybe 3rd
[22:43] <kypor__home> 3400 series chipset
[22:43] <jomc> Should I install gentoo?
[22:44] <jomc> guys pls
[22:44] <jomc> halp
[22:44] <Albatross> no
[22:44] <jomc> ):
[22:44] <arfent> Does anyone know about why ufw doesn't at least block incoming browser connections?
[22:44] <Albatross> Install Windows and free yourself of these plagues.
[22:44] <jomc> lol
[22:45] <kypor__home> Lol
[22:45] <kypor__home> Did that too. ATI has never worked
[22:45] <arfent> i cant go back to windows, i started out on whisky and soon moved onto the harder stuff...
[22:46] <Albatross> If whisky ran most of the world's programs, you should have stuck with it.
[22:47] <Jordan_U> arfent: Your broswer sends outgoing http requests on port 80, the responses from that server are not to port 80.
[22:48] <arfent> Jordan_U: To what port are those responses? Thing is ufw claims to have blocked all incoming calls, aren't those browser responses the server gives also incoming calls?
[22:49] <kypor__home> I can see on search there are others with this issue but no fixes. Just using Radon
[22:49] <wexwimpy> E: man-db: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 what does this mean
[22:49] <kypor__home> Radeeon driver is the fix
[22:49] <Jordan_U> arfent: Randomized. And no, since the connection was initiated by your browser it is considered an outgoing connection. Just because a connection is "outgoing" doesn't mean that data can only be sent one way.
[22:50] <arfent> Jordan_U: I see thanks.
[22:51] <Bashing-om> kypor__home: radeon is the open source driver for ATI cards, the 5 series does have FGLRX support. As to why you can not get a graphics display, I am at a loss to explain presently.
[22:52] <Jordan_U> arfent: You're welcome.
[22:52] <kypor__home> Thanks yes same
[22:53] <skinux> How would disk space for '/' become full when home, opt, and /var/www are all on a different partition from '/'?
[22:53] <kypor__home> I'm stumped too
[22:54] <Bashing-om> kypor__home: The i7 Intel board "might" be with integrated graphics, have you looked in bios and see if integrated grahics is supported on your machine ?
[22:54] <skinux> I've been removing packages, but disk space only decreased and now says it's all used.
[22:54] <kypor__home> Yes and there is nothing there
[22:55] <kypor__home> No integrated
[22:55] <Kovica> I'm running xubuntu 12.04 and have two monitors (one is touch screen, one is not). Touch screen is working OK until I connect the second display. Then the "mouse" moves from left top of one display to right lower corner of the second display, despite the fact I only "click" on one display. I've tried xinit_calibrator, but it draws itself acrosss both displays. How to solve this?
[22:56] <Jordan_U> skinux: Please pastebin the output of "df -h".
[22:57] <Jordan_U> skinux: There are a lot of files outside of /home/, /opt/, and /var/www/.
[22:59] <Bashing-om> kypor__home: Try this boot paramater : "xforcevesa" .
[22:59] <mexi_d3> skinux: You might need apt-get autoclean/apt-get autoremove to actually remove all the files; there's `bleachbit` as well, which cleans temp/old files.
[22:59] <greenman> simple question.  I've tried doing an ifdown and up.  I've tried rebooting.  I've tried dhclient -r.  Is there another way to release DHCP info?
[23:00] <daftykins> greenman: release? it doesn't take a reboot. what are you after?
[23:00] <greenman> daftykins: I changed my ip address allocation on my router and I want my server to have the new ip address
[23:00] <greenman> try as I might, I can't get it to release it's old lease.
[23:01] <greenman> I tried dhclient -r and then a dhclient, but that gave this:
[23:01] <daftykins> greenman: reboot the router.
[23:01] <daftykins> greenman: but static addresses are set manually, for real network admin - not static leasing
[23:01] <greenman> RTNETLINK answers: File exists
[23:02] <daftykins> your approach is bad
[23:02] <mexi_d3> greenman: I would recommend you used a static address for a server. You might need to hardcode in connection info one day.
[23:02] <kypor__home> I deleted the fglrx driver and am using radeeon once again
[23:02] <kypor__home> Sucks
[23:02] <mexi_d3> greenman: However `sudo ifdown eth0` should work
[23:02] <kypor__home> Ubuntu still won't work for me
[23:07] <Joe_knock> Hello, how do I create a list of IRC channels I'd like to join automatically when I start XChat?
[23:08] <daftykins> Joe_knock: this is ubuntu support, not IRC support. feel free to ask in #freenode
[23:08] <Joe_knock> hmmm, okay daftykins
[23:09] <synth_> Joe_knock http://xchat.org/faq/#q22