[07:27] <Goshawk> cica: for each event you can play a sound, there is "select sound file"
[07:27] <cica> Goshawk: and just apply sound to an event
[07:27] <axisme> sorry that was for crparr
[07:27] <Goshawk> cica: you are right :D
[07:27] <cica> Goshawk: nice one!!! :-D
[07:28] <cntb> !grub
[07:28] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:28] <cica> Goshawk: appreciate the help mate :-D
[07:28] <FirstStrike> sethk: yea
[07:28] <lipe1> Goshawk: isnt there a way to manually edit the keyboard conf to gnome?
[07:28] <Goshawk> cica: i'm here to help :D
[07:28] <cntb> where is the grub menu file ?
[07:28] <Goshawk> lipe1: uhm.. wait
[07:28] <Ash-Fox> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:28] <cica> Goshwak: thanks again :)
[07:29] <ChickenBrain> http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/dapper/devel/sun-java5-jdk <-- anything wrong with mutliverse?
[07:29] <avis> does anyone know if the developers have fixed the problem or not ?
[07:29] <Ash-Fox> No.
[07:29] <Ash-Fox> avis, what problem?
[07:29] <ProN00b> why is linux so bad at detecting keyboard layouts ?
[07:29] <avis> with xserver ?
[07:29] <Ash-Fox> avis, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[07:29] <FirstStrike> ProN00b: lack of support from the manufacturers
[07:29] <Ash-Fox> So in a word, yes. The problem has been fixed.
[07:30] <avis> ok thank you
[07:30] <rhyddin> avis: apparently its fixed, we're just waiting for it to migrate to the mirrors
[07:30] <ProN00b> FirstStrike, couldn't it do it like windows and just use the windows keyboard standart, i mean everyone supports that
[07:30] <cello_rasp> could anyone give me the output of           ls -all ~/.vnc/xstartup   ?
[07:30] <pianoboy3333> I have a bit of a weird compiling issue with gaim, and banshee, and many other applications involving libxrender (I think) checkout my post at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1409662 any help would be appreciated
[07:30] <FirstStrike> ...
[07:30] <rhyddin> Ash-Fox: And how do u do that?
[07:31] <ex_> has anyone got aac stuff playing with gstreamer?
[07:31] <ProN00b> FirstStrike, or at least mark the keyboard driver that windows would use... ?
[07:31] <sethk> pianoboy3333, what's weird?  It's just a missing library
[07:31] <Ash-Fox> rhyddin, well, I test a update on one computer, if it works fine, I stick it on the lan's repository, and get the updates shiped out to the other computers.
[07:31] <pianoboy3333> sethk: ok, what package should I install?
[07:31] <connyosis> is there a text mode xorg configurator for ubuntu? My X died and refuses to work for some reason
[07:31] <sethk> pianoboy3333, checking
[07:31] <pianoboy3333> kk
[07:31] <FirstStrike> yea. and while we're at it we should just copy all of windows drivers over to linux, right ProN00b? Cause that would be like totally smart.
[07:31] <sethk> pianoboy3333, try libxrender-dev
[07:31] <rhyddin> Ash-Fox: In this case wasnt the bug isolated to a particular subset of systems? How would u know for sure?
[07:32] <Goshawk> lipe1: sorry i don't know how to help you
[07:32] <pianoboy3333> sethk: It's installed
[07:32] <sethk> pianoboy3333, there is also libxrender1 and libxrender1-dbg
[07:32] <utab> I am using //<IP_ADDRESS>/pool    /home/utab/documents/MECH_POOL smbfs  credentials=/root/.smbcredentials,dmask=777,fmask=777  0    0 to mount a netwotk drive but I get
[07:32] <Ash-Fox> rhyddin, most of the hardware getting the updates is very similar to the test computer.
[07:32] <pianoboy3333> sethk: they're all installed
[07:32] <sethk> pianoboy3333, oh, wait, sorry, libxrender-dev installs a conventional library, not a libtool library
[07:32] <lipe1> Goshawk: ty anyway, my xorg is ok, that is the most strange thing. I reinstalled everything from gnome
[07:32] <otroean> Got ATI x700 and Dapper but I can't get ATI drivers to work. Only VESA works. How can I get 16:9 resolution with VESA drivers?
[07:32] <tabman> I'm looking for help on bluetooth on Ubuntu, I've gone through a how to to setup a single cell phone with ubuntu, but I need help on connecting multiple clients
[07:33] <Ash-Fox> rhyddin, I use the same update practices with windows :)
[07:33] <Goshawk> lipe1: what's your problem with the keyboard layout?
[07:33] <Goshawk> lipe1: is it wrong?
[07:33] <rummik> where do i find lndir?
[07:33] <rhyddin> Ash-Fox: Ah. I c. Well, I'm glad there are people around who are in the know and willing to help the community at large.
[07:33] <sethk> pianoboy3333, my guess is that there is something that produces the libtool library when you compile from source
[07:33] <lipe1> Goshawk:  YEs it is US and it should be bt
[07:33] <rhyddin> Ash-Fox: Like yourself.
[07:33] <pianoboy3333> sethk: which means?
[07:33] <utab> I get the error wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //<IP_ADDRESS>/pool,
[07:33] <Ash-Fox> rhyddin, the issue was found before I even discovered it, so I didn't really help much other than on the channel :P
[07:33] <lipe1> Goshawk: I had a bug with the home key and tried to do defaults to clear it up, but now i cant change layout
[07:33] <rummik> i searched for 'lndir' in synaptic, but i don't get any results
[07:34] <Ash-Fox> otroean, what is your xserver version?
[07:34] <Goshawk> lipe1: during sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg you select the keyboard layout. but use that command carefully, you can break X
[07:34] <Ash-Fox> otroean, dpkg -l xserver-xorg-core ?
[07:34] <lipe1> Goshawk: ty
[07:34] <rhyddin> Ash-Fox: Well, every little bit helps, you know? Most of these guys have switched from Windows and wouldn't know a cl from a hole in the wall.
[07:34] <donrarib> hi everyone
[07:34] <otroean> Ash-Fox:  I'm new with Linux. How can i find the version?
[07:34] <jamwbuttr> hello , im new to the ubuntu , but i have a problem with installing the ubuntu lts to my desktop. It freezes at the login screen. keyboard and mouse doesnt work.  Any ideas on how to fix.
[07:34] <utab> Help needed to mount samba drives
[07:34] <donrarib> i have a question
[07:34] <sethk> rummik, doesn't appear in a package.  I see the man page for lndir, for it and ja, but nothing else
[07:34] <Ash-Fox> otroean, open a terminal/type into a console: dpkg -l xserver-xorg-core
[07:35] <donrarib> the linux is good for development
[07:35] <donrarib> ??
[07:35] <pianoboy3333> sethk: so what do I do?
[07:35] <Ash-Fox> donrarib, linux is a kernel.
[07:36] <Goshawk> donrarib: Gnu/linux ubuntu is good enaught
[07:36] <sethk> pianoboy3333, I'm not sure, let me see if I can find anything relevant
[07:36] <Goshawk> enought
[07:36] <rummik> sethk: i think i'll do some google and see if i can get that working...looks like i could just use ln to do the same function
[07:36] <otroean> Ash-Fox: xserver-xorg-c 1.0.2-0ubuntu1 X.Org X server
[07:36] <donrarib> yes
[07:36] <pianoboy3333> sethk: is libtool a library?
[07:36] <rhyddin> omg, dont start the linux vss gnu/linux thing
[07:36] <donrarib> but my object is work with delphi
[07:36] <donrarib> in case, of kilux
[07:36] <Ash-Fox> otroean, alrighty, would you mind telling me what you've tried/done so far?
[07:36] <donrarib> its satisfact?
[07:36] <sethk> pianoboy3333, no, libtool is, as you might guess, a library management tool
[07:37] <rhyddin> donrarib: I use Delphi under windows and Kylix on Linux .. are you having a problem with it?
[07:37] <pianoboy3333> sethk: ok....
[07:37] <Goshawk> otroean:  you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[07:37] <utab> coudl you please help me to mount samba drives
[07:37] <sethk> pianoboy3333, the missing file is just a text file which contains info about the library
[07:37] <pianoboy3333> ah, ok
[07:37] <donrarib> rhyddin, yes
[07:37] <Goshawk> utab: sorry i don't know
[07:37] <sethk> pianoboy3333, you could install the libtool and libtool-doc packages
[07:37] <donrarib> a week ago im testing the kilux
[07:37] <KenSentMe> !samba > utab
[07:37] <pianoboy3333> ok
[07:37] <sethk> pianoboy3333, I'd have to check the docs, though, to see if that really gets you anywhere
[07:38] <kyja> anybody have trouble with 10.4?
[07:38] <pianoboy3333> sethk: well, I have libtool, I'm installing libtool-doc..... I wonder if that'll help....
[07:38] <Ash-Fox> kyja, no.
[07:38] <donrarib> but its a decepcinf
[07:38] <pianoboy3333> sethk: doubt it
[07:38] <kyja> thx Ash-Fox
[07:38] <donrarib> not good
[07:38] <Ash-Fox> kyja, it's the old version repackaged under a new version.
[07:38] <otroean> Ash-Fox: Tried all res with ati driver.
[07:38] <sethk> pianoboy3333, well, it will keep you busy for a few minutes, anyway  :)
[07:38] <kyja> hehe
[07:38] <rhyddin> donrarib: Can u be more specifc?
[07:38] <Ash-Fox> otroean, which ati driver? proprietory?
[07:39] <Goshawk> donrarib: on ubuntu you can play with better languages like C, C++ python, ruby and so on
[07:39] <pianoboy3333> sethk: nope, didin't work
[07:39] <otroean> Ash-Fox: The one with the Ubuntu CD
[07:39] <Johan_vd> after an update I am unable to open xserver xlog said no screen found :-((
[07:39] <rhyddin> Goshawk: He is using Delphi under windows, most likely he wants a similar environ to work with.
[07:39] <donrarib> yes
[07:39] <Johan_vd> but it is in config
[07:39] <Goshawk> Johan_vd:  you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[07:39] <sethk> pianoboy3333, it isn't supposed to work.  you are supposed to look at the man pages for ideas
[07:39] <Goshawk> Ash-Fox: i was faster :D
[07:40] <Ash-Fox> otroean, this maybe of use to you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[07:40] <pianoboy3333> sethk: oh, heh
[07:40] <utab> KentMe: I have done exactly the same thing but got error
[07:40] <knapper> Hello, I have a small problem with my sound. It seems like the bass level is way to high and music is distorted slightly. Is there any system wide mixer in ubuntu?
[07:40] <jamwbuttr> check out the forum on the new update problem on the x ----- they have a fix there
[07:40] <fredl> Ash-Fox, no luck without the fglrx driver
[07:40] <Ash-Fox> Goshawk, yeah, my attention was diverted to helping someone else :P
[07:40] <otroean> Ash-Fox: thnx.
[07:40] <donrarib> im on test with kilux, but its complicated
[07:40] <Goshawk> rhyddin: ah sorry, he writes in multiple lines and i didn't read that part
[07:40] <donrarib> i install it
[07:40] <Ash-Fox> fredl, can you try following these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ?
[07:40] <fredl> Ash-Fox, the standard ATI driver doesn't detect my card.
[07:40] <Goshawk> kilux?
[07:41] <donrarib> and when i will start, show this message
[07:41] <eric_o> Anyone could help me to get my tv-out to work
[07:41] <donrarib> /home/donrarib/kylix3/bin/delphi: relocation error: /home/donrarib/kylix3/bin/libwine.borland.so: symbol errno, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference
[07:41] <Rookie-> !tvout
[07:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tvout - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:41] <rhyddin> Goshawk: Its actually Kylix - borlands cross-platform environ that uses obj pascal
[07:41] <fredl> Ash-Fox, ok. Site seems to be real slow though.
[07:41] <Rookie-> !tv
[07:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:41] <sethk> rhyddin, eclipse has some similar features.  the gui builder sun distributes with the sdk is also worth a look
[07:41] <gafita> ola
[07:41] <donrarib> are u know this problem?
[07:42] <Goshawk> rhyddin: :D ah it's not my stuff
[07:42] <sethk> donrarib, wrong glib version
[07:42] <donrarib> buts the problem is not this
[07:42] <Johan_vd> wrote it down I hate to be here in windows :P
[07:42] <Johan_vd> thanks
[07:42] <gafita> hello
[07:42] <jamwbuttr> >:o  helolo    i need help on new install ----  log in freezes  every time.  Right after sound goes off.  I tried to ctrl alt f1 and it still did it  when it hit the command prompt.   What could the problem bee????????
[07:43] <fredl> Ash-Fox, ah that's pretty much the same as is on ubuntuguide
[07:43] <rhyddin> donrarib: when are you getting the error?
[07:43] <donrarib> the project kylix is until in use?
[07:43] <donrarib> in the start
[07:43] <eric_o> !tvout
[07:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tvout - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:43] <rhyddin> donrarib: did you install the key that borland sent you?
[07:43] <eric_o> !nvtv
[07:43] <ubotu> nvtv: tool to control TV chips on NVidia cards under Linux. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.7-3 (dapper), package size 237 kB, installed size 956 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[07:44] <donrarib> its a text data
[07:44] <Ash-Fox> fredl, there is additional troubleshooting tricks there I believe though.
[07:44] <lipe1> Goshawk: the problem was that I had to choose a generic keyboard instead of abnt2 first. After I choose generic keyboard, i  could change the layout. TY
[07:44] <fredl> Ash-Fox, for me the 'ati' driver does not work. The fglrx driver used to work but fglrxinfo shows Mesa.
[07:44] <donrarib> how i install it?
[07:44] <Goshawk> lipe1: good to know
[07:44] <Rookie-> eric_o - just make sure you have "universe" enable in your source.list
[07:44] <gafita> hello
[07:44] <Goshawk> lipe1: so now is fixed, isn't it?
[07:44] <Ash-Fox> fredl, fglxinfo should say "Direct Rendering: Yes", for hardware acceleration.
[07:45] <sethk> gafita, ask a question to get a response
[07:45] <lipe1> Goshawk: My last problem is prolly a non solution one. Everytime I press control +shift + f or control + shift + e the result is this:  . The problem is that even in Eclipse where they are shortcuts, those characters appear
[07:45] <cntb> ubuntu alternate CD didnot finish well install adn now iam stuck with grub prompt
[07:45] <donrarib> but rhyddin, i like to know if this language is a good for linux
[07:45] <rhyddin> donrarib: Just copy it into the Kylix dir. Then start the application.
[07:45] <donrarib> ?
[07:46] <Botje> in the installer: how do you give extra kernel parameters?
[07:46] <jamwbuttr> at least you got  the grub prompt
[07:46] <Botje> simply typing in "noapic noacpi" doesn't quite work
[07:46] <Goshawk> lipe1: i get them too
[07:46] <rhyddin> donrarib: Well, like a couple other people said, there are better languages for linux.
[07:46] <Goshawk> lipe1: ctrl+shift+f =
[07:46] <lipe1> Goshawk: yeah but they are no where to be configured or something loike that
[07:46] <elmargol> hi all
[07:47] <elmargol> How can I make those folder icons on evolution smaller?
[07:47] <donrarib> a person question, rhydin...
[07:47] <jamwbuttr> hi dont know
[07:47] <donrarib> you use a kilux?
[07:47] <Goshawk> hi again orbish
[07:47] <orbish> how can i reinstall gtk?
[07:47] <vader> Good day folks, I have 2 pc's one with ubuntu and one with Kubuntu..... same  problem, x is dead, says it cannot find the screen
[07:47] <orbish> i'm going nuts
[07:47] <donrarib> its a good application?
[07:48] <rhyddin> donrarib: I only use Kylix if I have to - if I'm porting a proprietary application. For general development I use C on Linux.
[07:48] <lipe1> k guys ty for the help, i will post that problem goshawk. [] s
[07:48] <donrarib> my fear is the kilux is not a good application...
[07:48] <sethk> vader, see channel topic for ix
[07:48] <sethk> vader, s/ix/fix/
[07:48] <donrarib> because i will work with delphi on the office and the scool
[07:49] <Goshawk> vader:  you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[07:49] <tom__> bonjour tout le monde, il y a des francais ici ?
[07:49] <rhyddin> donrarib: Try going to Applications/Add-Remove and getting all the stuff for kdevelop - its a pretty good starter suite for development.
[07:49] <Ash-Fox> donrarib, it's called kylix, not kilux.
[07:49] <c0nfidencal> Hey! Just installed Ubuntu ^^! I have 2 HDD's. 250 & 300 GB! I 248 GB as primary ext3 (Where Ubuntu is installed!), 2 GB for swap, 300 GB as primary ext3 storage. Did i do wrong? Or right... Maybe I needed reiserfs, or??? :)
[07:49] <Goshawk> !french > Goshawk
[07:49] <Goshawk> !french > tom__
[07:49] <tom__> oui
[07:49] <donrarib> yes
[07:49] <orbish> how can i reinstall GTK
[07:50] <donrarib> a moment
[07:50] <Goshawk> tom__: read ubotu
[07:50] <tom__> francais Goshawk ?
[07:50] <Goshawk> tom__: no, italian
[07:50] <tom__> ok
[07:50] <c0nfidencal> Anyone? >_<
[07:50] <tom__> ha thanks
[07:50] <Goshawk> orbish: libgtk2 i think
[07:50] <Goshawk> orbish: let me see
[07:50] <tom__> thanks Goshawk
[07:50] <orbish> that's not working for me
[07:50] <Ash-Fox> I would reccommend using reiserfs over ext3
[07:50] <Goshawk> orbish: libgtk2.0-0 - The GTK+ graphical user interface library
[07:51] <c0nfidencal> Ash-Fox, for both?
[07:51] <c0nfidencal> Or?
[07:51] <orbish> thanks a lot dude
[07:51] <Goshawk> tom__: you are welcome
[07:51] <Ash-Fox> c0nfidencal, reiserfs is a lot faster than ext3.
[07:51] <c0nfidencal> O_O
[07:51] <Goshawk> orbish: next time: apt-cache search pattern
[07:51] <c0nfidencal> For both then?
[07:51] <sethk> c0nfidencal, reiserfs is not, in fact, faster in any realistic configuration
[07:51] <sethk> c0nfidencal, plus, reiserfs is full of bugs.  stay away from it.
[07:52] <c0nfidencal> O_O
[07:52] <Goshawk> Ash-Fox: reiserfs can have fragmentation problem, but i'm using it :D
[07:52] <c0nfidencal> So it's aight that I installed both @ ext3?
[07:52] <rhyddin> reiser is hella fast though
[07:52] <sethk> c0nfidencal, yes
[07:52] <Ash-Fox> sethk, I've been using it for years.
[07:52] <c0nfidencal> :p
[07:52] <kyja> I dont understand why I cant play midi
[07:52] <c0nfidencal> thx
[07:52] <sethk> rhyddin, no, not in realistic situations, it isn't
[07:52] <Goshawk> c0nfidencal: there are many thoughts about reiserfs
[07:52] <Ash-Fox> sethk, if there were noticable bugs, I would of had them already. Especially with all the powercuts and such that I Have.
[07:52] <elmargol> I'm using reiser for mails only
[07:52] <c0nfidencal> :p
[07:52] <sethk> Ash-Fox, there are always people who say that.  then there are people like me, who have seen the problems and have also actually tested the performance rather than just reading claims
[07:53] <c0nfidencal> 99% [Connecting to packages.freecontrib.org]  <- Works for anyone?
[07:53] <sethk> Ash-Fox, do a web search, you'll find gobs of evidence about the bugs
[07:53] <c0nfidencal> I tried to install VLC but it stopped @ 99% cuz of that >_<
[07:53] <rhyddin> i ran reiser on slackware for a couple years while it was still beta .. amazingly stable at the time. using ext3 now, but i cant think of anything bad that came from resier.
[07:53] <Ash-Fox> sethk, admittedly I never ran my own benchmarks, but I have read others and my system is certainly faster than when it was under ex3.
[07:53] <sethk> Ash-Fox, your idea, that you would have seen bugs if they exist, is simply not true
[07:53] <Goshawk> sethk: both of them have their own problems and features
[07:53] <sethk> Ash-Fox, run them yourself, you'll find it isn't true
[07:53] <sethk> Goshawk, with the reiserfs problems, you lose entire file systems.  the two are not comparable
[07:53] <Crescendo> How would I go about setting up 5.1 channel audio on Ubuntu?
[07:54] <kung> hi there, since the last update my x-server won't start...is there any way to undo the last update (using synaptic i.e.)
[07:54] <Ash-Fox> sethk, Results 1 - 20 of about 1,020,000 for ext3 bug. Results 1 - 20 of about 142 for reisferfs bug.
[07:54] <rhyddin> Anyone else get the impression that sethk is a troll?
[07:54] <lamego> kung, read the topic please
[07:54] <sethk> kung, see channel topic for fix
[07:54] <snoops> my fingers are crossed for reiser4.. I can't wait for it to mature so I can use it.. bouncing trees.. yippee
[07:54] <sethk> rhyddin, I have been on this channel for months.  I'm hardly a troll
[07:54] <Goshawk> sethk: i used it from 2 years, no problems, with ext3 i have to wait many minutest for fsck every 30 times that i reboot
[07:54] <oyvind> kung: Download this package and install it with "dpkg -i ..": http://people.ubuntu.com/~rodarvus/packages/dapper/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4_i386.deb
[07:54] <orbish> hmm that didn't help
[07:54] <kung> thx :))
[07:54] <sethk> Goshawk, no, you don't.  use tunefs to turn that feature off
[07:55] <Goshawk> rhyddin: sethkis not a troll, trolls speak in a diferent way
[07:55] <sethk> Goshawk, set the fsck interval to 0, which means never
[07:55] <orbish> gtk2 and glib errors out the wazoo in my .xsession-errors
[07:55] <cntb> where in etc is the machine name ?
[07:55] <orbish> i might need to reinstall gnome?
[07:55] <c0nfidencal> ping: unknown host packages.freecontrib.org <- It's just for me? :\
[07:55] <rhyddin> sethk: Just because u had issues with something doesnt mean its bad though. Reiser never gave me probs and I ran it for ages.
[07:55] <orbish> freecontrib has been down for me too
[07:55] <c0nfidencal> damn
[07:55] <snoops> I never had any issues with reiserfs when I used it either
[07:56] <sethk> rhyddin, it isn't just me.  I've helped many many people here who've had the problem.  at least three last week, if you go back and check the channel logs
[07:56] <Goshawk> rhyddin: he is not the first one that had problem with reiserfs
[07:56] <lamego> does anyone have a copy of easyubuntu :P ?
[07:56] <c0nfidencal> :p
[07:56] <gafita> alg habla SPANISH?
[07:56] <Crescendo> !es
[07:56] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:56] <sethk> snoops, that proves nothing.  the problems may be rare but they absolutely exist.  a web search will show you
[07:56] <lamego> gables, #ubuntu-es
[07:56] <rhyddin> ah well, everyone is entitled to their opinion.
[07:56] <Crescendo> How would I go about setting up 5.1 channel audio on Ubuntu?
[07:56] <sethk> gafita, hablo un poco pero el -es es mejoy
[07:56] <sethk> mejor
[07:56] <Kuprin> Hey, ubuntu folks - I need to set up XMMS-Midi in Ubuntu, there's no APT package for it. Anyone good with MIDI setups here?
[07:56] <snoops> sethk it proves I had no problems with it...gosh, you don't need to be a jerk
[07:57] <orbish> goshawk any ideas? :(
[07:57] <Goshawk> rhyddin: no, i use reiserfs and i'll use it, but i know that it's not stable like ext3
[07:57] <gdb> Goshawk: you really should allow the forced check from time to time regardless.  In general, 30 reboots means a machine has been running for a very very long time.  However, if you reboot frequently (perhaps a laptop that you shutdown when moving to a new location) then setting that parameter not to 0, as other have suggested, but a much higher number, say, 300, would be more advisable.  Or just rememeber to do a forced check every now and then.
[07:57] <Minty> am going to install 64 versio as well as my 32bit version, do I just do a second install like I did for the 1rst one ??
[07:57] <Goshawk> orbish: about what?
[07:57] <gafita> ola goapa
[07:57] <sethk> Goshawk, that's rational
[07:57] <rhyddin> Goshawk: What factors make it unstable? Just out of curiosity.
[07:57] <janbanan> what is the latest fglrx-drivers 8.26.18?
[07:57] <Kuprin> janbanan, that sounds right
[07:58] <utab> I am getting some errors while trying to mount windows shares
[07:58] <Goshawk> rhyddin: after a while it loses his speed
[07:58] <orbish> goshawk: i'm getting gtk2 and glib errors in my .xsession-errors, i think i have to reinstall gnome, do you know the command, i'm trying apt-get install gnome and it's not working
[07:58] <Goshawk> rhyddin: look on google, there are fragmentation problems
[07:58] <orbish> i don't know where to find the correct package names basically
[07:58] <kyja> its not that big of a deal to let it check after every 30 restarts is it? or we talking about patiance on old slow machines?
[07:58] <Rookie-> !nvtv
[07:58] <ubotu> nvtv: tool to control TV chips on NVidia cards under Linux. In component universe, is optional.  Yeah, I'll google it.
[07:59] <sethk> kyja, no, it isn't a big deal, but some folks prefer to decide for themselves when to do it
[07:59] <kyja> oh ok.
[07:59] <janbanan> I'm using fglrx 8.25.18. should I update to the latest. have a X700- series card
[07:59] <sethk> kyja, which you can do, by turning off the automatic one with tune2fs
[07:59] <c0nfidencal> Ey, wtf? xchat showing some red stripe... -> http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/9885/screenshotsj9.png
[07:59] <Goshawk> rhyddin: in fact i use reiserfs on my laptop (here) and for development machines, but on my server i run ext3
[07:59] <c0nfidencal> how to remove it >_<
[07:59] <kyja> ok =]
[07:59] <utab> is there someone to help me mount windows shares
[07:59] <gdb> kyja: it could be if you're say, a student using a laptop at college and you end up shutting it down and restarting it, litterally, 5 or so times a day.  That forced check is killer when you walk into class and turn on your machine to take notes and you have to wait a long time for the check.
[07:59] <gafita> ai alguna chica espaola por aqui?
[07:59] <ircleuser> Was it one person who uploaded the buggy update? Will that person be "fired" from the developer team?
[07:59] <johan__> Hi am back in linux irc was asking about xserver which is not possible to start which file must I upgrade pls do me a new reply
[08:00] <TheGateKeeper> utab: did you sort your keyboard?
[08:00] <javiolo> gafita > es
[08:00] <snoops> kyja personally I have tunefs set to check every month.. which is far more occasional than 30 restarts, but I feel it's a fairly good number
[08:00] <gdb> kyja: I still think, however, that the forced check does need to be allowed to continue at *some* kind of reasonable interval.
[08:00] <javiolo> !es
[08:00] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:00] <Elephant> Does anyone know anything about webmin?
[08:00] <Goshawk> gdb: thanks for your help... in my server i use ext3, in my laptop i like play with reiserfs3.6 and 4
[08:00] <Goshawk> :D
[08:00] <gdb> Goshawk: hehe
[08:00] <orbish> :/
[08:00] <utab> TheGateKeeper: I have installed from scratch
[08:00] <sethk> gafita, si, yo, pero las regulas dice solo inglais por aqui
[08:00] <kyja> your right gdb to yhink of it that way, I have fast laptop and is only 2 extra minutes but in sa class that would be a big deal
[08:00] <gdb> snoops: Yes, that's a good solution, a time based check, rather than a "per number of reboots" check.
[08:00] <Goshawk> gdb: and i'm waiting edgy + xen to enlarge the field of the game :D
[08:01] <utab> TheGateKeeper : trying to mount windows shares
[08:01] <cntb> in grub how do I boot WINDOWS MANUALLY /dev/sda1
[08:01] <TheGateKeeper> utab: you have a good system now?
[08:01] <sethk> gdb, tjat
[08:01] <utab> TheGateKeeper:yes,
[08:01] <sethk> gdb, that's true, it is easy to forget to do it, if you turn off automatic checking
[08:01] <Goshawk> orbish: install ubuntu-desktop
[08:01] <ircleuser> Was it one person who uploaded the buggy update? Will that person be "fired" from the developer team?
[08:01] <Elephant> cntb: My solution at home is that /dev/hda is windows, /dev/hdb is Ubuntu, and I use the boot menu from the BIOS to select which HD boots
[08:01] <gdb> kyja: To be clear, I'm not a student, but that's a scenario I could see happening. ;-)
[08:01] <rhyddin> LMAO
[08:01] <Chu> Hmm, I was upgrading to dapper through the update manager, but it failed while calculating the upgrade. What should I do? :p
[08:01] <sethk> gdb, but that doesn't mean that a file system that doesn't have a check after some limit feature at all is better
[08:01] <orbish> goshawk thanks a ton
[08:01] <utab> TheGateKeeper : have you had experience with windows shares
[08:02] <kyja> I think I have a good set up =]  how ever I cant get it to play midi. I dont have the best multi media selection set up yet I guess
[08:02] <Goshawk> orbish: it will install gnome
[08:02] <__boomer> the last systemupdate messed up libvte4, did anyone else experience the same problem
[08:02] <sethk> Elephant, that's fine, although it is easy to set up grub to boot either one
[08:02] <rhyddin> if everyone who caused a glitch got fired there would be no devs
[08:02] <markie_mark> anyone seen this happen: http://rafb.net/paste/results/20r0fi97.html
[08:02] <master0onxbox> ngon hr inne som kan hjlpa mig med skert ett simpelt problem men fr mig ett mysterium
[08:02] <sethk> rhyddin, that's quite true
[08:02] <TheGateKeeper> utab: a little but you might want to back your system up first: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81311&highlight=HOWTO%3A+backup
[08:02] <Goshawk> !de
[08:02] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:02] <Goshawk> no it's not his language
[08:02] <rhyddin> stuff happens. roll with it.
[08:02] <utab> TheGateKeeper : why this is a simple operation
[08:02] <master0onxbox> Om jag fr detta medelande hur tgrdar jag det? i Synaptic
[08:02] <TheGateKeeper> utab: what exactly are you trying to do?
[08:03] <master0onxbox> E: Typ "eb" r oknd p rad 25 i listan ver kllor /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:03] <master0onxbox> E: Kllistan kunde inte lsas.
[08:03] <master0onxbox> G till frrdsdialogen fr att rtta till problemet.
[08:03] <master0onxbox> E: Typ "eb" r oknd p rad 25 i listan ver kllor /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:03] <master0onxbox> E: Kunde inte att lsa listkatalogen
[08:03] <kyja> gdb: I agree, at first I thought ... did not bother me.. then I thought of the two other lapptops I have here, that have a fraction of the hard drive but would tyake half the day to run the check lol
[08:03] <Elephant> yeah...when i tried to put grub on hda, it errored out and killed my ability to boot that drive
[08:03] <Ash-Fox> !nl
[08:03] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[08:03] <gdb> sethk: It means that this theoretical laptop is being checked on the user's schedule, rather after some arbitrary number of reboots which, for a desktop, doesn't matter.  For a laptop, it can be a showstopper (for the aforementioned reasons).  I'd rather boot up my laptop in my dorm and wait 5 for a check before homework, than wait 5 in class while the prof is talking and I want to be taking notes, but can't, due to an fsck.
[08:03] <Ash-Fox> !se
[08:03] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[08:03] <Kuprin> Anyone for XMMS-midi? There's no package, but I KNOW XMMS can support MIDI files. I've seen it done in Gentoo and it's actually quite slick.
[08:03] <sethk> markie_mark, I see nothing wrong there
[08:03] <Elephant> nearly lost my win XP partition :(
[08:03] <utab> TheGateKeeper: followed this link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[08:03] <sethk> gdb, Oh, I don't disagree
[08:04] <ircleuser> Rhyddin: I wasn't saying they should be fired. I was just curious.
[08:04] <master0onxbox> >>> ubotu.. TACK THX
[08:04] <sethk> gdb, that's why I told him to use tune2fs to remove the automatic one
[08:04] <markie_mark> sethk: the multiple tmpfs mounts on /var/lock and /var/run..
[08:04] <gdb> There really is no ideal solution because when you're rebooting a machine, you're having to interact with the system, which means your time is wasted regardless.
[08:04] <gdb> You just get to choose when that time is wasted. ;-)
[08:04] <utab> TheGateKeeper: the problem is that alt+f2 and then smb://filesrv/files open the shared folder
[08:04] <sethk> markie_mark, oh, yes, that will happen.  you can do multiple mounts on a mount point.  the last one wins.
[08:04] <utab> TheGateKeeper, but I can not mount them permanently
[08:04] <sethk> markie_mark, but it's a bad idea as umount then doesn't really umount
[08:05] <tuxtux_> !kernel
[08:05] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[08:05] <gdb> sethk: Oh, you're responding to my suggestion of using a higher number.  I apologize for confusion, I went on to support a scheduled check after more discussion took place.
[08:05] <markie_mark> it's just strange I've never seen it do that by itself..
[08:05] <sethk> gdb, yes, I agree
[08:05] <markie_mark> okay - thanks for the feedback
[08:05] <sethk> markie_mark, it's easy to provoke.  do two loopback mounts in a row to the same directory
[08:05] <TheGateKeeper> utab: you have modified fstab?
[08:06] <utab> TheGateKeeper yes
[08:06] <Goshawk> orbish: how are things going
[08:06] <Goshawk> ?
[08:06] <NewUbuntuUser> Hello -- I just saw the link I needed
[08:06] <Goshawk> NewUbuntuUser: libgtk2.0-0 - The GTK+ graphical user interface library
[08:06] <Goshawk> oops sorry
[08:06] <Goshawk> wrong paste
[08:07] <Stuttergart_> Anyone else having terrible locale problems with Dapper?
[08:07] <utab> TheGateKeeper: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21418
[08:07] <Goshawk> NewUbuntuUser: you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[08:07] <Stuttergart_> perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
[08:07] <Goshawk> Stuttergart_: yep
[08:07] <Stuttergart_> and so on
[08:07] <tuxtheslacker> hello.
[08:07] <Goshawk> Stuttergart_: do you upgraded to edgy?
[08:07] <brownie> is 10.4 the fixed one?
[08:07] <Goshawk> brownie: you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[08:08] <Goshawk> brownie: yes
[08:08] <Stuttergart_> Goshawk: Have you been able to fix it?
[08:08] <brownie> ty
[08:08] <tuxtheslacker> I updated xorg or xserver or something along those lines with the automatic updated, and now X breaks after I restarte
[08:08] <Phoul> Hello is there a repo with pekwm in it
[08:08] <Goshawk> Stuttergart_: sure, are you using dapper or edgy? did you upgraded/downgraded from one tho the latter?
[08:08] <bXi> tuxtheslacker: read the topic
[08:08] <Goshawk> tuxtheslacker: you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[08:08] <Stuttergart_> Goshawk: Fresh install of dapper.
[08:08] <knoppix> what is that X breaking thing? what happens, it drops to console or it just hangs?
[08:08] <Goshawk> ok... gimme version of locales and libc5
[08:08] <Goshawk> libc6
[08:09] <Goshawk> sorry
[08:09] <Goshawk> i'm chatting in the dark
[08:09] <tuxtheslacker> anyone?
[08:09] <dravas> Whats the app to install Mouse Icons
[08:09] <utab> TheGateKeeper: zzzzzzzz ;)\
[08:09] <bXi> tuxtheslacker: you were given 2 answers just now
[08:09] <Goshawk> knoppix: X doesn't recignize your screen you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[08:09] <Goshawk> tuxtheslacker: you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[08:10] <NamShub> heh
[08:10] <tuxtheslacker> anyone?
[08:10] <TheGateKeeper> utab: try without the credentials file just to get it started, once you have got it working move to using the file. What's with zzzzz?
[08:10] <tuxtheslacker> thanks Goshawk
[08:10] <Goshawk> tuxtheslacker: again... did you read  what i've said to you?
[08:10] <NamShub> I just wish I knew wether thats my problem or not :S
[08:10] <xarq> how do I make ubuntu automatically detect and connect to favorite wireless network routers?
[08:10] <nahoj> hi, I really need some help, how do i patch in ubuntu? i have downloaded a file named acer.patch but i dont know what to do with it
[08:10] <utab> TheGateKeeper : I tried that before but will try for you again
[08:11] <Goshawk> xarq: paly with network-manager
[08:11] <Goshawk> s/paly/play/
[08:11] <Goshawk> stupid dark
[08:11] <utab> TheGateKeeper: you mean to put the user and pass directly
[08:11] <Goshawk> the light button it too far :D
[08:11] <kyja> nahoj: that sounds kida suspitious
[08:11] <TheGateKeeper> utab: correct no point using the file until you get this working
[08:11] <nahoj> kyja, how come?
[08:11] <kyja> nahoj: do you know specipicly what this does>
[08:12] <tarzan_> hi
[08:12] <tarzan_> my fresh installed kubuntu 6.06.1 runs dosfsck on every boot to check my fat32 partition..without finding errors (chkdsk unter win32 doesn't find errors either).. any reason for thie behaviour?
[08:12] <xarq> Goshawk: are you sure network manager has the functionality for favorites?
[08:12] <TheGateKeeper> utab: you need to do things one step at a time, and debug so to speak as you go along
[08:12] <nahoj> kyja, it has to do with my soundcard... https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=2104
[08:12] <sk1dge> can anyone help me get my audio working in ubuntu?  i just installed it last night, and no audio...
[08:12] <kyja> nahoj: well going by the old philosify of if it aint broke dont try to fix it I would hold off. especialy if you dont even know what the file is for
[08:12] <kyja> oh sound card
[08:12] <Goshawk> xarq: it's used to automatically connect with a wired cable or manage wireless connections, but it does not work with ndiswrapper
[08:13] <bluesign> hi, anyone know nat2nat vnc solution for WIN-Linux?
[08:13] <nahoj> kyja, i have no sound so i'm ready to try anything... :p
[08:13] <Goshawk> bluesign: vnc from windows<-->linux?
[08:13] <utab> TheGateKeeper http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21419
[08:13] <ulisse> hello
[08:13] <KPhilosophy> sals
[08:13] <xarq> Goshawk: I don't think network manager has the functionality to connect to favorite wireless routers if it can see them
[08:13] <utab> TheGateKeeper errors
[08:13] <KPhilosophy> hello
[08:14] <bluesign> Goshawk: yes
[08:14] <kyja> nahoj: ic =]  have you tried searching for acer inside of the synaptic pachage manager?
[08:14] <ulisse> can someonoe point me to a good asound.conf for a SB Live!24 on Dapper?
[08:14] <KPhilosophy> ....
[08:14] <Goshawk> xarq: i think yes, see on google to eb sure
[08:14] <TheGateKeeper> utab: seen that one before, when I was trying to mount my hard disk on a live cd
[08:14] <kyja> wich reminds me. I cant still for some reason find a way to play midi. its that or all these carioki midi files suck =]
[08:14] <tuxtheslacker> thanks guys!
[08:15] <sk1dge> is everyone here trying to get their audio working?
[08:15] <utab> TheGateKeeper :good news then or
[08:15] <nahoj> kyja, no results that matters...
[08:15] <bluesign> Goshawk: any idea?
[08:15] <tuxtheslacker> shit... now I have it using compiz... I really don't wanna use compiz hahahahha!
[08:15] <xevil> !topic
[08:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about topic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:15] <dimbles> Can anyone direct me to information about LVM in Ubuntu?
[08:15] <Goshawk> bluesign: just install thightvnc on windows and vino for ubuntu
[08:15] <kyja> nahoj: oh.
[08:16] <utab> dimbles google
[08:16] <bluesign> Goshawk: does it do nat2nat/
[08:16] <Crescendo> How would I go about setting up 5.1 channel audio on Ubuntu?
[08:16] <TheGateKeeper> utab: try from the cli --> mount //filesrv/pool  /home/utab/documents/MECH_POOL
[08:16] <Goshawk> bluesign: then you need a viewer, it' in applications--->internet--->terminal server client
[08:16] <Goshawk> bluesign: what do you mean for ant3nat?
[08:16] <harisund> bluesign: what do you mean by nat2nat?
[08:16] <Goshawk> nat2nat
[08:16] <utab> TheGateKeeper what is cli--> ...
[08:17] <TheGateKeeper> utab: terminal
[08:17] <bluesign> goshawk, harisund: http://www.uvnc.com/addons/nat2nat.html
[08:17] <TheGateKeeper> !cli > utab
[08:17] <nahoj> kyja, well, i have found this patch https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=2378 and they say that it helped them... but i cant figure out what to do with it... i guess everyone thinks its pretty obvious, lika asking for the start-menu in windows
[08:17] <jorgp> anyone know of any good free webchat servers/clients that support audio?
[08:17] <TheGateKeeper> utab: start terminal and type: mount //filesrv/pool  /home/utab/documents/MECH_POOL
[08:18] <amee2k> how do i re-run the automatic X configuration?
[08:18] <harisund> bluesign if I am not much mistaken, every NAT must connect through a gateway, and if you forward the required ports on the gateway any VNC should work just fine.
[08:18] <harisund> amee2k: dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:18] <GUIPEnguin> can you add packages to the ubuntu installation via ubuntu cdroms, or does everything have to be downloaded via the internet with its package manager?
[08:18] <harisund> amee2k: sorry, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as root
[08:18] <knapper> Hello, I have a small problem with my sound. It seems like the bass level is way to high and music is distorted slightly. Is there any system wide mixer in ubuntu?
[08:18] <bluesign> harisund: yep. i know but i need to connect without modifying gateway :(
[08:18] <harisund> GUIPEnguin:  you can add through CDrom. Just execute 'sudo apt-cdrom add' and then you can apt-get update
[08:18] <Vlet> Is there any way to automatically ban an ip in the firewall after a given number of failed ssh login attempts?
[08:18] <xarq> knapper: alsa-mixer
[08:18] <Goshawk> bluesign: yep
[08:19] <Goshawk> bluesign: you should configure your router for that
[08:19] <amee2k> harisund: ty :)
[08:19] <utab> TheGateKeeper : without types and other options
[08:19] <pibarnas> Hi, folks. I've upgraded my kernel to the last kernel.org one. Everything went well, except for the network. When I get ito gnome the network applet is marked with a "x". When I click on it, it says the following error: Erro SIOCGIFFLAGS: No such device. Anyone could help me? The config is basically the same of the ubuntu's kernel.
[08:19] <xarq> er, I mean alsamixer
[08:19] <TheGateKeeper> utab: correct
[08:19] <bluesign> goshawk: kk thanks anyway
[08:19] <utab> TheGateKeeper: still the same
[08:20] <lamego> pibarnas, you must have missed the driver required for your network card...
[08:20] <kyja> nahoj: I am looking
[08:20] <Goshawk> bluesign: the simplest way is to modify the router, you can use that NH host
[08:20] <Rookie-> Vlet - you have to write a script with "if" and then so it will write in your firewall and restart the firewall ....
[08:20] <amee2k> what is the difference between the "nv" and "nvidia" X server drivers?
[08:20] <pibarnas> nope, it's loaded. I see it with lsmod.
[08:20] <nahoj> kyja, thx!!
[08:20] <TheGateKeeper> utab: won't mount? you get an error message?
[08:20] <Trae> how can I turn off psmouse permanently?  I don't want that module to load at boot.  I tried editing the blacklist file and doing:  blacklist psmouse
[08:20] <Trae> that didn't work
[08:20] <GUIPEnguin> harisund: so for a dialup user, my friend could install all the stuff he needs, like mplayer, etc, from the cdroms once downloaded?
[08:20] <utab> TheGateKeeper :the same message on the paste bin
[08:21] <bluesign> goshawk: actually nh host is a good idea but I could not find client for linux
[08:21] <Vlet> Rookie-: That's what I started doing, but I thought I'd check for a built-in solution first; Thanks
[08:21] <harisund> GUIPEnguin: well, I don't know if the CDROM has mplayer. Wait, what kind of a CDROM are you talking about? I was assuming the CDROM was an Ubuntu installation CDrom?
[08:21] <harisund> GUIPEnguin: do you mean you want to copy some packages into a CD, and then install the packages from that CD?
[08:21] <Goshawk> bluesign: look in google: vnc connection under router/nat
[08:21] <Rookie-> Easyer way would be to have  amailfunction and then write the ip manually ... mailfunction could be by 24 hours
[08:21] <bluesign> goshawk: thanks
[08:21] <TheGateKeeper> utab: can you get to the share from konqueror?
[08:22] <kyja> nahoj: its asking me for user name and pass =]  I thought I could read about this file
[08:22] <utab> TheGateKeeper : alt+f2 and then smb://filesrv/pool gets me there
[08:22] <Crescendo> How would I go about setting up 5.1 channel audio on Ubuntu?
[08:22] <GUIPEnguin> harisund: I was wondering if ubuntu included like, say 5 disks with tons of packages on it like debian...that you could install off the cd without doing an online apt-get
[08:23] <harisund> GUIPEnguin: Well, there are DVDs with lots more from the repositories I think. In that case, yes... you will be able to do what you have in mind.
[08:23] <SKossu> ah what was the command to get the kernel sources installed? :S
[08:23] <utab> TheGateKeeper : the same is true for konquerer also
[08:23] <kyja> nahoj: you could try running it in bash. open terminal and cd to the location its in and then type the filename
[08:23] <harisund> GUIPEnguin: the thing is, if you want to apt-get from a CDrom instead of the internet, the CDrom's contents must be structured in the same way that the internet repositories are structured. You can't copy a bunch of files into a CD and expect apt to install it from such a CD
[08:23] <nahoj> kyja, just log in as a guest =)
[08:24] <kyja> ok
[08:24] <GUIPEnguin> harisund: I understand
[08:24] <harisund> SKossu: I think the kernel sources package goes something like linux-sources-arch ... search for linux-sources using apt-cache.
[08:24] <SKossu> harisund: okay thanks
[08:24] <harisund> Skossu I don't have immediate access to my Ubuntu box .. but apt-cache search linux-sources should give you enough information.
[08:25] <TheGateKeeper> utab: try sudo mount //servername/sharename  /media/mountname  smbfs  username=myusername,password=mypassword  subtituting the correct username & password
[08:25] <xarq> it's linux-source, not sources
[08:25] <utab> TheGateKeeper : done that before but lets try
[08:26] <treitter> is it possible to do a server install from the Desktop CD, or do I need to burn a server CD?
[08:26] <tepus6> dose anyone know where i can get an openmosix 2.6.x kernel? (.deb)
[08:26] <Goshawk> treitter: you can do a desktop install and then modify it to have a server
[08:26] <harisund> treitter: it is not. With a desktop cD you will directly go into the desktop
[08:27] <harisund> treitter: once you install the entire package, you can remove whatever you don't want ...
[08:27] <Warbo> harisund: Not very useful for low disk space systems :)
[08:27] <utab> TheGateKeeper it is wrong it must start with sudo mount -t smbfs ..
[08:27] <treitter> Goshawk, harisund: thanks!
[08:27] <utab> TheGateKeeper it also does not work
[08:27] <harisund> utab what are you trying to  mount?
[08:28] <utab> harisund: samba shared folders
[08:29] <utab> TheGateKeeper : this is also not responsive
[08:29] <newubu> hi all
[08:29] <harisund> utab does the folder being shared exist on Windows or Linux
[08:29] <newubu> does anyone here use listen with an ipod?
[08:29] <agraupe> I'm having a problem with my wifi card.  iwscan list works fine, and I can see the network I want to connect to.  I have set the key as given to me, but dhclient fails to obtain an IP address.  any ideas what I could try?
[08:29] <utab> harisund Linux probably
[08:29] <tepus6> dose anyone know where i can get an openmosix 2.6.x kernel? (.deb)
[08:29] <Goshawk> agraupe: ndiswrapper drivers?
[08:29] <Luc1> How view files(jpg, mp3, avi......) on remote Samba sources without copy them to local disk?
[08:29] <utab> harisund : because the server is a linux server
[08:29] <harisund> utab ah ok ....
[08:30] <Goshawk> tepus6: google can help you this is ubuntu related channel
[08:30] <Archimedes> HEY GUYS
[08:30] <Luc1> I install smbclient.
[08:30] <newubu> does anyone how to use and ipod with listen?
[08:30] <Archimedes> I HAVE A QUESTION.
[08:30] <Archimedes> I SURE DO
[08:30] <Archimedes> I LOVE THE IPOD''
[08:30] <Goshawk> Archimedes: don't scream!
[08:30] <Rookie-> LOL @nahoj
[08:30] <lcdd> Luc1: you need smbmount
[08:30] <Archimedes> OH, SORRY.
[08:30] <Archimedes> I DIDN'T MEAN TO SCREAM.
[08:30] <liran_> is mplayer and mozilla-mplayer available in universe/multiverse?
[08:30] <tepus6> Goshawk, Im using ubuntu but i can find any ubuntu packages with any openmosix support at all
[08:30] <Goshawk> Archimedes: if you sream we will ban you
[08:30] <Archimedes> I'LL TURN OFF THE CAPS LOCK.
[08:30] <Archimedes> OKAY, THANKS.
[08:30] <Warbo> nahoj: Rubik cubes are easy. As long as you have Ubuntu to solve it for you :)
[08:31] <Archimedes> THANKS FOR THE HEADS UP, GOSHAWK
[08:31] <Chousuke> :P
[08:31] <Rookie-> caps ????
[08:31] <Goshawk> Archimedes: stop!
[08:31] <Archimedes> OKAY, I'M TURNING IT OFF RIGHT NOW!
[08:31] <Goshawk> tepus6: wait i'm googleing for you
[08:31] <Chousuke> !ops
[08:31] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[08:31] <Archimedes> Hey guys.
[08:31] <rhyddin> wtf
[08:31] <TheGateKeeper> utab: try this don't know if it will get you any further http://jason.379.com/node/32
[08:31] <Archimedes> I have a question for you freaks.
[08:31] <rhyddin> nut
[08:32] <Archimedes> That wasn't nice.
[08:32] <Archimedes> Anyway.
[08:32] <agraupe> Goshawk: no, I'm using the drivers for my broadcom BCM4318 as given in the ubuntu wiki
[08:32] <GUIPEnguin> where can I download ubuntu package cds?   or could I use debian package cds?
[08:32] <kyja> nahoj: they say you fix the same way as acl260 but I cant find alot of info about that that is straight forward. still looking
[08:32] <Goshawk> Archimedes: i think that you are not so clever like the man that had your name in the 5 bc
[08:32] <Luc1> lcdd: Is possible that with Places->Network servers->network Windows?
[08:32] <Archimedes> That's a fallacious observation, Goshawk
[08:33] <Goshawk> agraupe: you lucky.. i have teh same card and i had to use ndiswrapper
[08:33] <nahoj> kyja, you are my hero!
[08:33] <Warbo> GUIPEnguin: The alternative CDs contain the base system's packages. I think there are some people trying to put Universe on CD, but I don't know where to find them
[08:33] <villmow> I am having trouble with my ubuntu system after the last upgrade
[08:33] <agraupe> Goshawk: well, if yours actually works, you are more lucky than me
[08:33] <Trae> Hmmm, even Google isn't providing me with much in the way of trying to figure out how to keep psmouse from loading at boot.
[08:33] <Goshawk> agraupe: i'm connected with it
[08:33] <GUIPEnguin> Warbo: so I cant get cds with all the packages on them like debian?
[08:33] <GUIPEnguin> insted of using apt-get
[08:34] <villmow> my secondary monitor resolution is wrong and the kcontrol display module is givinng me an error saying that something is conflicting with it, anyone willing to help me solve the problem?
[08:34] <Luc1> lcdd: ok I try smbmount. Thanks for intrest.
[08:34] <newubu> DOEs anyone how to use and ipod with listen?
[08:34] <Warbo> GUIPEnguin: Not ALL of the packages, just the ones used in a regular Ubuntu default system. As for the Universe ones (which I assume would include the whole thing) I am not sure, you may have some luck in the forums
[08:34] <janbanan> I have some funny problem with my graphics. I have fglrx 8.28.8 installed. when I run glxgears i get 120-130FPS but when i simultaniously open any other program i get 12-13000FPS. why is that?
[08:34] <newubu> does anyone know how to use and ipod with listen?
[08:34] <nahoj> newubu, don't spam
[08:35] <synic> newubu: did you install python-gpod ?
[08:35] <Warbo> GUIPEnguin: You can always make your own CDs of packages, but I forget the tools used to do it
[08:35] <kyja> nahoj: but just thinking... have you tried "applications>sound and videa>volume control panel ? there is a pc speaker slider there that was not enabled by default
[08:35] <argument> how do I take a screenshot?
[08:35] <newubu> nahoj, sorry was correcting the phrase
[08:35] <jpjacobs> hit printscreen ;)
[08:35] <argument> CTRL-PrtScn usually works in Windows
[08:35] <newubu> synic, not sure...
[08:35] <Warbo> argument: press the print screen button, look in Applications>Accessories or use GIMP's "File>Aquire"
[08:35] <Goshawk> argument: it works in ubuntu too
[08:35] <synic> newubu: dpkg -l | grep gpod
[08:35] <npster> How do I move a file in terminal ?
[08:35] <jpjacobs> mv
[08:35] <synic> npster: mv
[08:36] <kyja> nahoj: and if that app is not there in the menu right click and choose edit menu and select sound and video and check the box on that so its in the menu.
[08:36] <argument> cool, got it
[08:36] <jpjacobs> ha first ;p
[08:36] <Warbo> npster: "mv file newlocation"
[08:36] <villmow> does anyone know what package conflicts with the kcontrol display module?
[08:36] <Goshawk> tepus6: http://www.ubuntu-es.org/node/10703 is in spanish
[08:36] <ubuntunabb> Ive tried to get a SMP working kernel going, from both the ubuntu repositories, and vanilla from kernel.org. when I use one from the reps. The machine wont respond at all, and with the kernel.org one, 3 of my hdds connected to the onboard promise raid doesnt work. someone knows something about this?
[08:36] <TheGateKeeper> utab: if that doesn't work have a look at this documentation: http://samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/
[08:36] <npster> ok
[08:36] <newubu> synic, nop
[08:36] <newubu> synic, neede?
[08:36] <newubu> synic, needed?
[08:36] <tepus6> Goshawk, thank you...
[08:36] <synic> newubu: if you want to use listen with your ipod, then yes.
[08:36] <nahoj> kyja, checking..
[08:36] <newubu> synic, thanks, gonna try
[08:37] <TheGateKeeper> utab: you have either got a connection problem, permissions problem or syntax not sure which
[08:37] <agraupe> Goshawk: do you have any idea how to use the proper bcm43xx driver?
[08:37] <Shin_Gouki> hello!
[08:37] <nahoj> kyja, everything is on max... i have been trying to fix this for about a week and i cant think of anything "normal" i have not tried...
[08:37] <Goshawk> agraupe: sure, use system--->administration--->networking to configure and use the card
[08:38] <TheGateKeeper> utab: got to run hope you get it sorted
[08:38] <nahoj> kyja, this patch seems to be my last hope
[08:38] <Shin_Gouki> whre can i fin ubuntu 6.06 live CD download? i just found edubuntu live -CD? is the "normal" desktop CD also live CD?
[08:38] <Goshawk> agraupe: if you don't find it there, you should load the bcm43xx module (but it think it should be loaded yet)
[08:38] <utab> TheGateKeeper: one minute
[08:38] <kyja> nahoj: ok. mine had an x at the bottom and I had to click it.
[08:38] <kyja> nahoj: ok I continue to research
[08:38] <Goshawk> Shin_Gouki: wait
[08:38] <ivx> hey i don't know anything about the amd turion 64 processor. would the 64 bit version support this chip/
[08:39] <nahoj> kyja, no x:s here... =)
[08:39] <nahoj> maybe anyone else knows a bit or two about patching?
[08:39] <Goshawk> Shin_Gouki: are you from jp?
[08:39] <ks> -bash: /opt/lampp/tomcat/bin/startup.sh: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Text file busy
[08:39] <dimbles> is there any way of installing over the top of fedora (LVM partitions) and keeping my home folders?
[08:39] <Warbo> Does anyone know of issues with ra61 driver? (RaLink wifi card) It works on the live CD, but crashes my installed system
[08:39] <janbanan> I have some funny problem with my graphics. I have fglrx 8.28.8 installed. when I run glxgears i get 120-130FPS but when i simultaniously open any other program i get 12-13000FPS. why is that?
 just my nick , im from germany
[08:39] <Warbo> dimbles: To use LVM you need the alternate CD
 u got a link?
[08:39] <kyja> nahoj: so even as computer boots you dont get the startup sound? I know there are alot of media typed ubuntu just does not play at default.
[08:39] <exmethix> hey @ all
[08:40] <nahoj> kyja, no sound output what so ever...
[08:40] <kyja> and still after all the codec I have installed I cant play midi :/
[08:40] <exmethix> does somebody know how to minimize xchat into the systemtray?
[08:40] <dimbles> Warbo: which is the alternate cd?
[08:40] <kyja> k
[08:40] <Goshawk> Shin_Gouki: getting the link from your country
[08:40] <nahoj> kyja, same with suse
[08:40] <Goshawk> Shin_Gouki: http://ubuntu.intergenia.de/releases/6.06/
[08:40] <utab> TheGateKeeper: no
[08:40] <Warbo> dimbles: It uses text mode, it is listed on releases.ubuntu.com (current release is Dapper)
[08:41] <npster> how do I play .asx files. I installed totem but it doesn't work ?
 ? still theres no "live" in image titel , so i have to chose desktop?
[08:41] <Goshawk> Shin_Gouki: choose desktop cd
 ok, then burn as image and rest will work fine?
[08:41] <metrom> hi, I've just installed ubunto server 6.06 LAMP, how do I easily install a desktop UI?
[08:41] <jpjacobs> npster, totem sucks... try mplayer or xine (or totme-xine)
[08:41] <Goshawk> Shin_Gouki: in dapper desktop installs from live cd
[08:41] <_X_> eek, my xserver borked to day for some reason
[08:41] <Ash-Fox> metrom, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[08:42] <_X_> fglrx doesnt work, vesa doesnt work...
[08:42] <dimbles> Warbo: so the alternate cd wouldn't have been shipped to me
[08:42] <metrom> ahh. thanks.
[08:42] <Goshawk> Shin_Gouki: burn the desktop cd, it's live and you can install ubuntu if you want just clicking an icon
[08:42] <_X_> I just get the blue screen with the "x wont start, do you want to view error output" dialog
[08:42] <Warbo> dimbles: No, only the "desktop CD" gets shipped
[08:42] <_X_> I think I installed some new updates today
[08:42] <npster> tnx
[08:42] <Goshawk> Shin_Gouki: breezy had live cd and installation cd, now it's all in one: desktop cd
[08:42] <Ash-Fox> _X_, hit ctrl + alt + f1, login. Then you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[08:43] <_X_> Ash-Fox, thanks a million :)
 thx , good to know :)
[08:43] <Ash-Fox> No problem.
[08:43] <untung> Hi, how can I activate chinese input in ubuntu?
[08:43] <Goshawk> Ash-Fox: i'm helping the 35th, you? :D
[08:43] <Ash-Fox> Goshawk, I've lost count :P
[08:43] <dimbles> cheers all, bye
[08:43] <looktj> lol
[08:44] <looktj> noone perfect
[08:44] <Goshawk> untung: look for canna if i'm not wrong
[08:44] <marshall_> is there any way to reset all wine defaults?
[08:44] <Genz00> can i install ubuntu without cdrom drive?
[08:44] <Genz00> i have .iso
[08:44] <untung> Goshawk: what is canna?
[08:44] <npster> why doesn't wine works with me ???
[08:44] <Ash-Fox> Genz00, yes.
[08:44] <Warbo> marshall_: You can remove the .wine directory and it will be recreated next time you start wine (that will remove everything you have installed in wine as well)
[08:44] <Goshawk> yep untung canna is A Japanese input system (server and dictionary).
[08:44] <Genz00> Ash-Fox how?
[08:45] <Goshawk> Canna supports Nemacs, Mule, kinput2 and canuum.
[08:45] <marshall_> Warbo:  ok
[08:45] <Ash-Fox> Genz00, well, you can boot the ISO off the network using PXE-boot
[08:45] <npster> jpjacobs: are you sure that mplayer will work
 IMO still there should some kind of "hint" that live cd is "normal" desktop... if it stand on the download side i wouldn't have need to ask ;)
 still tank u very much :O
[08:45] <mbass> marshell_: try 'mv .wine old.wine' -- use mv so that you can restore if anything goes wrong or there is actually stuff you want to keep.
[08:45] <stefan> nabend.
[08:45] <Minty> can I install a 64 alongside a 32 bit version ??
[08:46] <jpjacobs> npster, mplayer works for me... and with w32codecs, it can cope with about anythig you'll ever meet...
[08:46] <newubu> synic, thanks man
[08:46] <Goshawk> Shin_Gouki: i had the same trouble when i downloaded it in june :D
[08:46] <Ash-Fox> Minty, create seperate partitions.
[08:46] <Genz00> Ash-Fox i have iso on hd >_>
[08:46] <Warbo> mbass: I should have said that really. It is what I always advocate :)
[08:46] <Genz00> i need download again?
[08:46] <Ash-Fox> Genz00, so?
[08:46] <agraupe> Goshawk: any idea why I would be able to scan, but unable to connect or ping?
[08:46] <Minty> Ash-Fox: i just do a install from the cd rom ISO ??? and create a partition ??
[08:46] <Ash-Fox> Genz00, no. You need to run SFTP, and DHCP on another computer to be able todo a network boot.
[08:47] <Goshawk> Ash-Fox: 36th :D (i'm doing like the ewel and the gnome in the lord of teh ring :D )
[08:47] <untung> I have SCIM input in my ubuntu
[08:47] <stefan> today i installed some patch called something like "...core...intel...xorg". now x dont want to start anymore... means my old xorg.conf doesnt work. has somebody an idea how to fix that?
[08:47] <Goshawk> !jp
[08:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:47] <Goshawk> what? is there not a japan channel?
[08:47] <Ash-Fox> stefan, hit ctrl + alt + f1, login. Then you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[08:47] <janbanan> Where can I find info on how to install XGL. Need basic instructions
[08:47] <untung> IME engine is there with chinese input. how to activate the keyboard?
[08:48] <untung> Goshawk  I need chinese input not japanese
[08:48] <Warbo> !xgl > janbanan
[08:48] <mbass> Warbo: I'm surprised I remembered... (I have automatic backups running, which makes me too blase about such commands as rm)
 cya arround :)
[08:48] <Goshawk> Shin_Gouki: ok
[08:48] <wikijeff> Is it possible to give the GNOME volume control, date and time, and window list panels a completely transparent background??
[08:49] <stefan> thank u a lot ash-fox.. i will try that.
[08:49] <Goshawk> untung: what's the 2 letters that identify your country?
[08:49] <Goshawk> s/'s/are
[08:49] <looktj> example US
[08:49] <Ash-Fox> Minty, Genz00, it's far easier connecting a cdrom than setting up a network boot etc.
[08:50] <untung> CH
[08:50] <Goshawk> untung: ca if i'm not wrong
[08:50] <Minty> Ash-Fox: please Do I install the 64 version from the ISO cd and will it add to the existing grub ??
[08:50] <Goshawk> ah ch
[08:50] <Goshawk> !ch
[08:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:50] <Warbo> wikijeff: Not really. The only compromise would be to use a composite manager (xcompmgr, compiz, etc.) and make the whole panel translucent (but making it 100% translucent would make the text disappear too)
[08:50] <untung> china
[08:50] <b_> how can I view my MAC address?
[08:50] <Ash-Fox> Minty, yes, if you install it on a seperate partition.
[08:50] <wikijeff> Warbo: that's sad, my computer can't run a composite manager at a reasonable speed
[08:50] <lamego> b_, ifconfig
[08:50] <Minty> Ash-Fox: I can make the partion during the installion ?? eys
[08:51] <Minty> yes
[08:51] <Warbo> Minty: I would install GRUB onto a partition instead, so the two GRUBs don't conflict. Then you can "chinaload" the second GRUB from the first (the same way Windows is loaded from GRUB)
[08:51] <vgtl> Hi. Does anybody know the correct module for Apple fan support (PowerBook 17 inch 2006) ?
[08:51] <Warbo> *chainload
[08:51] <Goshawk> untung: sorry it seems that there is not any chinese support channel.. i don't know how to help you
[08:51] <madmax> hello... i have a little problem... i remember installing gcc-3.4 for something i needed to compile... and i did... but now i need to compile something else and i don't have a "gcc" binary anywhere in the path (not even root's)... only a gcc-3.4
[08:52] <Minty> Ash-Fox: have alraedy a windows grub as have a win partion
[08:52] <mbass> b_: use command 'ifconfig' in a terminal, your MAC address should be marked HWaddr
[08:52] <looktj> madman: hit ctrl + alt + f1, login. Then you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[08:52] <Goshawk> untung: [Obsolete]  Chinese input server (GB) for Crxvt in X11.
[08:52] <looktj> oops
[08:52] <looktj> sorry
[08:52] <Warbo> madmax: /usr/bin/gcc is a soft link to whichever version you use, you could recreate that link to point to gcc-3.4 (or install 4.0)
[08:52] <Goshawk> untung: look for xcin 2.5.x or chinput 3.x
[08:52] <madmax> what's weird is that i looked in synaptic and i have 3.3, 3.4, and 4.0 installed now... and no gcc binary... only a gcc-3.4
[08:52] <Ash-Fox> Minty, whatever?
[08:52] <amonbish> interest
[08:53] <madmax> oh... ok
[08:53] <madmax> thanks
[08:53] <PPower> Goshawk: Back again, its all working, want to see?
[08:53] <babis85> hello, how can i make my firewall not to start automatically on boot?
[08:53] <untung> ok
[08:53] <Goshawk> PPower: yep
[08:53] <gidim> You'll never guess what happened to me. :D
[08:53] <Goshawk> untung: GTK+2 based input method platform for Chinese users ---> install gcin
[08:54] <looktj> gidim: What?
[08:54] <PPower> Goshawk: See your message
[08:54] <kvossen> I get an SHPC: cannot reserve MMIO region error during boot-time hardware detection. Any idea what might be causing this?
[08:54] <Goshawk> PPower: should i log in? :D
[08:54] <PPower> if you want
[08:55] <Goshawk> PPower: ssh or vnc?
[08:55] <PPower> try both
[08:55] <gidim> I downloaded the Ubuntu 32-bit to make the switch from 64-bit until the support is there, and during the reformat of hda1 it locks at 14%, I wait... and wait... finally I cancel and reboot to try again, hda1 is no longer detected. ^^;;
[08:55] <kyja> nahoj: they say this is as easy as finding windows start lol
[08:55] <dereksivers> Anyone else download the automatic update : xserver-xorg-core_1%3a1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3_i386.deb yesterday?  xorg won't work at all since the update.  says "no screens found".
[08:56] <kyja> nahoj: they dont make useing this vary clear.
[08:56] <gidim> So I kinda have no OS but the Live CD now... well, either Live CD.
[08:56] <Wanderer> dereksivers: do a refresh and re-update
[08:56] <Wanderer> the fix is on the servers
[08:56] <kyja> nahoj: still hunting
[08:56] <Warbo> Minty: What I meant was that you already have GRUB on your MBR (master boot record), and that is being controlled by the Ubuntu you have installed. Installing a new one there would mess up whenever you installed a new kernel, since both Ubuntu's would fight for control over it. If you add the second GRUB to a partition instead then you can put a single chainloader entry into the GRUB you have already.  Then you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[08:57] <Goshawk> PPower: i can't conect with vnc
[08:57] <Goshawk> PPower: tryin ssh
[08:57] <dereksivers> looktj: ah. ok. thank you.
[08:57] <PPower> Goshawk: What happens with vnc?
[08:57] <looktj> no problem
[08:57] <klm-> Where can I get the newest and proper flash support for Mozilla?
[08:58] <Minty> Warbo: sorry thats a little complicated for me, how do I chain load ??
[08:58] <PPower> klm-: www.adobe.com
[08:58] <klm-> I installed a lib via apt but it seems very buggy
[08:58] <Goshawk> PPower: pop-corn LOL!
[08:58] <Goshawk> PPower: are you working on an OS?
[08:58] <Warbo> Minty: "chainloading" basically means that one bootloader gives up control to another. The way GRUB hands over control to the WIndows bootloader. If you look at the Windows entry for GRUB then just copy that, but change the name and the partition it points to
[08:59] <PPower> Goshawk: Yes, with some friends of mine, we need help bad
[08:59] <Goshawk> PPower: good
[08:59] <Goshawk> PPower: monokernel o microkernel?
[08:59] <kyja> nahoj: but did you try running this? like haveing it on the desktop and doing sudo ~/Desktop/acer.patch
[08:59] <Warbo> klm-: install the package "flashplugin-nonfree"
[08:59] <PPower> Goshawk: Eh? Why good? Plus, what error did vnc spew?
[08:59] <PPower> Goshawk: Micro
[08:59] <Minty> Warbo: thanks will look into this a little more as scared that I will screw it all up
[08:59] <Goshawk> PPower: interesting
[08:59] <otroean> Got an Asus W1V with built in subwoofer. After installing Ubuntu Dapper only the stereo speakers work.
[09:00] <PPower> Goshawk: It seems the multiblock code is currently broken, it switches to block -bigsmall number here
[09:00] <nahoj> kyja, command not found...
[09:00] <Goshawk> PPower: i'm trying to do something like that... in D programming language
[09:00] <PPower> Goshawk: Whats D
[09:00] <gidim> So um... I'll just go tinker with my box, see if I can get my drives to detect.
[09:00] <Goshawk> PPower: http://www.digitalmars.com/d/
[09:01] <PPower> Goshawk: Want to help us? We use C and Assembly
[09:01] <Goshawk> PPower: i'm seeing the code right now
[09:01] <Goshawk> PPower: is it your desktop or server?
[09:01] <PPower> Goshawk: VMware
[09:01] <Warbo> Minty: I would say to just install Ubuntu like normal, but then install GRUB to your new / partition, then boot back into your old Ubuntu system and reinstall GRUB to the MBR (installing to a partition is like installing to /dev/hda1, rather than installing to the MBR which is like /dev/hda). After that just add a new entry to your old Ubuntu's /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[09:01] <Goshawk> ah :D
[09:01] <claviola> D:
[09:02] <Goshawk> time to go people.. my dinner is on the table
[09:02] <Goshawk> see you tomorrow
[09:02] <PPower> Ok, bye!
[09:02] <Goshawk> bye all
[09:02] <babis85> hello, how can i make my firewall not to start automatically on boot?
[09:02] <tuxtux_> ciao
[09:02] <argument> what's the difference between using the "Postscript (recommended)" driver named Standard and the "regular" one named HPLIJ ?
[09:03] <nahoj> kyja, i am on to something here...
[09:03] <ntoll> has the xorg breakage been fixed yet?
[09:03] <nahoj> kyja, the guys in the #alsa proved to be helpfull. following their guide now..
[09:03] <argument> i've got an HP LaserJet 3050 - is the HPLIJ driver postscript based? what's the diff?
[09:03] <npster> Is there a application for making animations ???
[09:03] <klm-> Warbo: which repository is it in?
[09:03] <holycow> *hmmm*
[09:03] <argument> npster, you can make animations with The GIMP
[09:04] <Minty> Warbo: ok what will hapen at the first reboot seing that I will have '2' grubs 1 mbr with old grub and the new one, will I be able to choose, or will the machine just get confused
[09:04] <argument> npster, e.g. animated gifs
[09:04] <high> can someone help me locate 2.6.15-20 flight kernel or the disc itself.  i cant seem to find an old ubuntu archive
[09:04] <Warbo> klm-: multiverse
[09:04] <Thunderpants> ntoll, apt-get update and check its 10.4 and not 10.3
[09:04] <ntoll> Thunderpants, thanks
[09:04] <Thunderpants> yw
[09:04] <ntoll> its still saying 10.3
[09:04] <npster> yeah, but you will have to make every picture, argument
[09:04] <ntoll> I'll apt-get update
[09:04] <holycow> nautilus is requesting blank dvds and refuses to write to blank cds ... anyone seen this before?
[09:04] <argument> npster, oh, that requires heavy math iirc, and there are apps to do it, but i don't know what ones
[09:05] <Warbo> Minty: It should boot at least one of the systems fine, although I am not sure which. You can recover one system from within the other using chroot. If you get confused then just come back in here and ask
[09:05] <npster> argumet: rephrase please
[09:05] <ugarit> can someone help me with the removal of a package via dpkg?
[09:05] <exs> is there any really good fun, games for ubuntu?... The only ones available are the 2-2 puzzle ones. I was looking for a spaceship 2d game. or 3d game
[09:05] <npster> argument: rephrase please
[09:05] <argument> npster, i heard you the first time
[09:05] <argument> :)
[09:05] <tom123> Hey guys - anyone able to help with a network-manager and vpn problem?
[09:05] <holycow> exs, open up synaptic and start installing
[09:05] <IcemanV9> ugarit: dpkg -r <package name>
[09:05] <poningru> !rhythmbox
[09:05] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[09:05] <Minty> Warbo: thanks loggin to try /me crosses his fingers
[09:05] <holycow> exs, there is an entire section for games
[09:05] <argument> npster, taking a skeleton model and defining joints and movement axes and stuff requires heavy math
[09:05] <Warbo> exs: Spaceship game? Chromium, or if you are hardcore then Vegastrike
[09:05] <exs> holycow:  i opened up add/remove.. haven't tried synaptic yet
[09:06] <argument> npster, there are apps to do that but i don't know what ones
[09:06] <pibarnas> Hi, folks. I've upgraded my kernel to the last kernel.org one. Everything went well, except for the network. When I get ito gnome the network applet is marked with a "x". When I click on it, it says the following error: Erro SIOCGIFFLAGS: No such device. Anyone could help me? The config is basically the same of the ubuntu's kernel.
[09:06] <Naosz> eve-online runs great under cedega
[09:06] <klm-> Warbo: thanks! didn't have multiverse activated.
[09:06] <ugarit> IcemanV9:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21421 dpkg -r is getting errors
[09:06] <npster> Does someone know any type of apps that me and argument talked about ?
[09:06] <kaot> pibarnas: probably your nic driver.  wireless or ethernet?
[09:06] <tom123> i have no vpn connection in the vpn connection list of network-manager
[09:06] <Warbo> klm-: Well, you says that now, but that package didn't work for me :( I had to get a Debian one from somewhere (I forget where)
[09:06] <pibarnas> ethernet one.
[09:07] <pibarnas> the module is loaded on boot.
[09:07] <kaot> pibarnas: not anymore, I'm guessing :\   open a term and do ifconfig, see if it's there
[09:07] <pibarnas> I can ping my machine, but not the gateway...
[09:07] <exs> i downloaded the tuxmath for kids, expecting to be able to do fairly well since I am almost 20. I find it very, very hard.
[09:07] <argument> npster, freshmeat.net sourceforge.net and google all probably know better than most of us in here
[09:07] <pibarnas> Yep, it's there.
[09:08] <tom123> hey - any idea out there?
[09:08] <IcemanV9> ugarit: it is not a package (with .deb extension) -- sudo aptitude remove clvm
[09:08] <kaot> pibarnas: what kind is it?
[09:08] <lamego> kaot, please have in mind that he is using a kernel compiled by him....
[09:08] <pibarnas> It's a pci one. I think tulip or dmfe... but both modules are loaded, as ocurred with old kernel config.
[09:09] <kaot> pibarnas: i mean what chipset
[09:09] <pibarnas> oh, wait a minute...
[09:09] <ugarit> IcemanV9:  same problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21422
[09:09] <tom123> help - i need H - E - L - P ;)
[09:09] <pibarnas> It's a Davicom Semiconductor, Inc. 21x4x DEC-Tulip compatible 10/100 Ethernet (rev 40).
[09:10] <SKossu> Im trying to patch my wireless driver but it gives this error make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop. rt2500.ko failed to build! I tried installing Linux Source but same error comes. Anyone got any tips?
[09:10] <poningru> SKossu: rt2500 should be included out of the box
[09:10] <poningru> it was for me
[09:11] <lupine> the driver works, but it's a year old
[09:11] <babis85> hello, how can i make my firewall not to start automatically on boot?
[09:11] <IcemanV9> ugarit: ok. you'll need to stop its service like sudo /etc/init.d/clvmd stop, then remove it.
[09:11] <matko> is xserver package already fixed?
[09:11] <SKossu> poningru yes it is, but I need to patch it for some features
[09:11] <poningru> ah gotcha
[09:11] <poningru> SKossu: wait is it the txpower feature?
[09:11] <kaot> pibarnas: did the tulip module load?
[09:11] <poningru> if so dont do it...
[09:11] <Warbo> SKossu: Is that RaLink?
[09:11] <poningru> nothing but trouble
[09:11] <poningru> Warbo: yeah
[09:11] <SKossu> Warbo: yes
[09:11] <IcemanV9> ugarit: i am not sure if clvmd is the correct spelling, but you know which one.
[09:11] <pibarnas> Yep. the tulip mode is on.
[09:12] <SKossu> Poningru: no idea :P
[09:12] <Warbo> Ah, I am having problems with my card :(
[09:12] <lupine> SKossu: make symlink build point to /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.14-26-386
[09:12] <npster> is Blender good for animation creating ?
[09:12] <poningru> SKossu: what feature are you looking for?
[09:12] <poningru> npster: yep
[09:12] <IcemanV9> npster: yes
[09:12] <tom123> anyone familiar with the nm-applet?
[09:12] <ugarit> IcemanV9: same problem! even after stopping it.
[09:12] <SKossu> poningru: packet injection :P
[09:12] <kaot> pibarnas: how about the dmfe module?  is that loaded?
[09:12] <lupine> tut tut :D
[09:12] <poningru> SKossu: hehe gotcha
[09:12] <SKossu> lupine: alright thanks
[09:12] <npster> it is enormous ?
[09:12] <pibarnas> It's loaded too... :(
[09:12] <kaot> pibarnas: ah.  try rmmod'ing them both, modprobe dmfe, see if that helps
[09:13] <poningru> anyone know how rhythmbox can be enabled to get music from shared stuff?
[09:13] <kaot> pibarnas: if so, blacklist the tulip module
[09:13] <Warbo> npster: I think it boasts at being less than 10MB
[09:13] <lupine> alternatively you can do "KERNDIR=/usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r` make"
[09:13] <poningru> shouldnt it do it out of the box? like itunes?
[09:13] <npster> what is rendering ?
[09:13] <lupine> can you send me the link for the patch?
[09:13] <drbashir> Hi, can windows read ext2 or 3 filesystems?
[09:13] <Warbo> npster: Erm, if you don't know that the nBlender may not be the tool for you :)
[09:13] <lupine> not natively
[09:13] <IcemanV9> ugarit: including -f (force)?
[09:13] <lupine> various 3rd party tools will set it up for you
[09:13] <poningru> drbashir: nice nick ;) yes it can but only for ext2 iirc
[09:13] <pibarnas> I'll do that, thanks for your response!! Thank you very much. I'll try it.
[09:13] <kaot> poningru: you mean shared like with samba or something?
[09:14] <npster> drbashir: NO
[09:14] <kaot> pibarnas: no problem
[09:14] <ugarit> IcemanV9: even with -f :-(
[09:14] <Warbo> npster: rendering is when all of your models, lighting, actions, etc. get produced into an animation, frame by frame
[09:14] <NemesisUK> drbashir, yes you can use ext2ifs works for ext3 and ext2
[09:14] <Warbo> drbashir: Yes
[09:14] <drbashir> lupine, poningru, thx,
[09:14] <poningru> drbashir: http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html
[09:14] <drbashir> wow, never had this much responce :P
[09:14] <poningru> drbashir: welcome to #ubuntu :)
[09:14] <FurryNemesis> sheesh, today was not a good day
[09:15] <ablyss> wow.. nice to see xnest and xorg-server fixed.. i was two clicks away from reinstalling
[09:15] <IcemanV9> ugarit: hm. check if any of processes are still running or not via top or htop
[09:15] <profoX`> Ash-Fox: seems like it's more for the technical board, my proposal :)
[09:15] <poningru> linux for human beings
[09:15] <FurryNemesis> did anyone else lose their comiz themes?
[09:15] <FurryNemesis> *compiz
[09:15] <IcemanV9> woot! got my network printer to work! :)
[09:15] <ablyss> not me Furry
[09:15] <hadi> how to install gtk themes from .deb packegs
[09:15] <poningru> kaot: kinda, there is a protocol called daap that itunes uses to share music
[09:16] <ablyss> i been w/out total X usage as of last night, faulty upgrade
[09:16] <poningru> kaot: apperantly rhythmbox should support it
[09:16] <hadi> how to install gtk themes from .deb packegs?
[09:16] <ugarit> IcemanV9: none :-(
[09:16] <poningru> hadi: dpkg -i foo.deb
[09:16] <matko> quit
[09:16] <IcemanV9> ugarit: and still can't remove it?
[09:16] <hadi> ok but how can i set it
[09:17] <ugarit> IcemanV9: that's right!
[09:17] <Azeraith> why are there so many ppl in these rooms
[09:17] <drbashir> Crap, I have a faulty hard drive. Its a read-only NTFS in a USB drive casing. Can I just switch it off while its trying to copy?
[09:17] <efren> #ubuntu-es
[09:17] <npster> Blender is cool, I like it!!!
[09:17] <efren> cual es el servidor espaol
[09:17] <kjm> Azeraith - because there a lot of people who want to learn, and more that want to help them.
[09:17] <profoX`> Okay, this is a hard one: I am working on a memory searching tool. I am trying to figure out how to search for a value in memory addresses of a certain process. I'm trying to develop this for an improved version of Knoppix|RE (reverse engineer live cd) -- any ideas ?
[09:17] <msoul> hadi: FluxBox?
[09:17] <npster> efren: english only !
[09:17] <andres_> how do I go from 5.04 to 5.10?
[09:17] <Warbo> Azeraith: Either a) Ubuntu is great, and it has loads of followers, or b) Ubuntu is terrible and everyone is having problems :)
[09:17] <kaot> drbashir: I've heard that doing that can render you sterile and also kill your dog
[09:17] <IdleOne> efren, /join #ubuntu-es
[09:18] <kjm> profoX' - what language?
[09:18] <ablyss> Azeraith: because i'm popular ;P
[09:18] <profoX`> kjm: python.
[09:18] <Azeraith> hmmm
[09:18] <poningru> !update > andres_
[09:18] <IcemanV9> ugarit: i'm out of options .. let me see if i could find more
[09:18] <Azeraith> what's everyone talking about
[09:18] <profoX`> kjm: but if you can give me advice of where to look that would be cool too.. I was thinking /proc/<pid> somewhere.. maybe make a hexdump there.. i dont know.. im clueless :)
[09:18] <poningru> drbashir: no dont do that
[09:18] <drbashir> kaot, :O dont care about the dog, but I still planning to have kids a few years from now
[09:19] <kjm> profoX' - eek.  Pointers are dynamic in terms of address space I think....not sure if you can extract the memory address using python
[09:19] <drbashir> poningru, how do I force unmount it?
[09:19] <kaot> profoX`: the system manager in gnome has a way you can check that, hang on I'll mess with it a second
[09:19] <looktj> any have bot power
[09:19] <looktj> !fix
[09:19] <ugarit> IcemanV9: syslog is showing  clvmd: Cannot login in to CCSD server even though clvmd and ccs are not running according to ps
[09:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:19] <drbashir> because its not canceling (my HD is ticking)
[09:19] <kaot> uh s/manager/monitor/ duh
[09:19] <ablyss> i think python does away w/ pointers... sort of c++ headache i believe
[09:19] <profoX`> kjm: kaot: thanks, I appreciate the help
[09:19] <looktj> !fix should be: hit ctrl + alt + f1, login. Then you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[09:19] <hadi> msoul: Gnome
[09:19] <kjm> profoX' - What he said.....beyond my programming abilities.
[09:19] <SKossu> lupine: Tried what U suggested using ln -s /build /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.14-26-386 but didnt work :(
[09:19] <Warbo> looktj: I think that is already !xorgbugfix
[09:20] <looktj> !xorgbugfix
[09:20] <ubotu> The fixed xserver-xorg-core packages has been uploaded. It is now safe to upgrade the system. First make sure that your mirror have the new version, to do that please do "sudo apt-get update" than do "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core" and make sure candidate is version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4.
[09:20] <kjm> ablyss : Well, you don't need to "deal" with pointers, but they are there.  Source of many bugs comes from the way python handles its namespace.
[09:20] <kyja> nahoj: I am sorry, I am looking on forrums also and this is not anything I can figure out :(
[09:20] <kaot> profoX`: but you probably want something you can build into another program or script or something, I'm guessing.
[09:20] <andres_> poningru, thanks!
[09:20] <looktj> that doesnt help newbies
[09:20] <kjm> ablyss : difference between x = class<foo> and x = class<foo>()
[09:20] <kjm> for example
[09:20] <FurryNemesis> bah I'll just wait for compiz to update
[09:20] <kaot> profoX`: anyway, if you're interested you can just open system monitor, right click on program name, memory maps.  if your skilled maybe you can dig at the system monitor sources to find the code to do it
[09:21] <kjm> profoX' - look into the source for top.
[09:21] <WiseProfit> What the heck is Ubuntu?
[09:21] <kjm> !ubuntu
[09:21] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[09:21] <nahoj> kyja, as i said, the guys at #alsa are trying to help me as well...
[09:21] <babis85> ubotu: hello, when i do "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core" after doing update the candidate version is still the 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3
[09:21] <profoX`> kaot: yea, but I'll do that part myself. I want to gather as much about the memory of a process as possible, because my prog will have to extract that stuff. I'll check the sysmonitor
[09:21] <zingo> Hi i have one question, if im using the same account that i created during the installation is that the root-account? So should i make a new 1
[09:22] <kaot> profoX`: oh hey, how about /proc/$pid/maps
[09:22] <WiseProfit> Their website looks pretty gnarly
[09:22] <kjm> zingo - no it is not the root account.  It is an account that has super user privvies when required through sudo
[09:22] <drbashir> poningru?
[09:22] <zingo> kjm: ok, thanks!
[09:22] <kaot> profoX`: that seems to show memory address ranges
[09:22] <Warbo> zingo: The first account created is in the admin group, which lets that user use the "sudo" command. New users are not in this group by default, but can be added to it
[09:22] <zingo> But i can keep usingit for regular usage?
[09:23] <kjm> zingo - absolutely.
[09:23] <Warbo> zingo: Yes, it is a regular user account
[09:23] <ablyss> me and programming object coding dont mix.. i try and try and nothing sinks in
[09:23] <profoX`> kaot: yea I was alraedy looking in /proc/pid/ but its a bit chaossy there :) I'll check the map file
[09:23] <zingo> Great. Thanks for your help guys
[09:23] <kjm> ablyss - I know your pain.   I will forever be a procedural coder.
[09:23] <POVaddct> zingo: if you want a user without sudo rights, don't put that user in the group "admin"
[09:23] <kjm> ablyss  - or at best a bad oo coder.
[09:23] <ablyss> some people talk it like they where born to speak it
[09:24] <zingo> POVaddct:  Alright
[09:24] <poningru> huh?
[09:24] <ablyss> you know them types kjm
[09:24] <poningru> what?
[09:24] <kjm> ablyss - yes, very well.
[09:24] <ablyss> amazing peeps
[09:24] <lamego> ablyss, OO is not about coding, is about OO thinking :)
[09:25] <ablyss> lamego, yes.. that's right
[09:25] <kjm> ablyss - and they always state just what lamego just said :)  I just can't think in that way yet when structuring my programming tasks I guess.
[09:25] <IcemanV9> ugarit: i just looked thru forums. no post on uninstall/remove, only on install problem. :/
[09:26] <ugarit> IcemanV9: thanks, I could't find anything on removal either :-(
[09:26] <SKossu> to create a make symlink build point to /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.14-26-386 is  ln -s /build /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.14-26-386 the right command?
[09:26] <ugarit> IcemanV9:  I can't install anything because of this
[09:27] <kaot> SKossu: build not /build, and that's if you're in /usr/src/linux-headers-blahblah already
[09:27] <kaot> SKossu: and you've got it backwards
[09:27] <FordPrefect> has anyone gotten the sound card on macbook pro to come out of suspend properly?  I managed to work around by reloading everything (kill all sound users, shutdown alsa-utils, unload all snd*, then go the other dir) but I was wondering if there was anything codewise out there?
[09:27] <kaot> SKossu: ln -s destination linkname
[09:27] <SKossu> kaot: ah, im a jackass :P
[09:27] <kaot> SKossu: eh I mess that up all the time too
[09:28] <SKossu> kaot: first time im ever using Linux so, I guess im doing OK
[09:28] <kaot> SKossu: you seem to be, yes
[09:29] <Ross> how do i enable ssh in ubuntu (dapper drake)
[09:29] <dravas> Whats the app to install Mouse Icons
[09:29] <erUSUL> !ssh
[09:29] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[09:29] <POVaddct> Ross: apt-get install openssh-server   ?
[09:29] <Ross> i'll try it
[09:29] <Ross> POVaddct, thanks for your help...
[09:30] <jvai> hey peepz
[09:30] <zingo> is it safe to use ubuntu without firestarter or any other firewall?
[09:30] <compotatoj> zingo: yes
[09:30] <zingo> compotatoj: Thought so :-=
[09:31] <NickGarvey> zingo: I would say so, but a firewall would never hurt
[09:31] <poningru> NickGarvey: meh
[09:31] <SKossu> kaot: it wont let me into the dir, says  Too many levels of symbolic links
[09:31] <compotatoj> NickGarvey: its better not to have all the extra crap
[09:31] <drbashir> Whats a good (as in equivilent of Partition Magic) partitioning prog for ubuntu?
[09:31] <npster> blender is pretty hard to work with
[09:31] <POVaddct> zingo: depends on which services you have runniung
[09:31] <kaot> yeh, you don't want to go and install something like samba or sshd and forget to turn on a firewall afterwards
[09:31] <Toba> I just put a tv capture card in my computer
[09:31] <compotatoj> drbashir: gparted
[09:31] <poningru> drbashir: gparted
[09:31] <Toba> what's the best player available for linux?
[09:31] <drbashir> thx both :)
[09:31] <Toba> that will easily use the capture card
[09:32] <poningru> Toba: vlc
[09:32] <compotatoj> NickGarvey: firestarter is more for a router on a linux box
[09:32] <poningru> Toba: or mplayer
[09:32] <zingo> Yeah, of course. I just wondered if there was like supergood to have a firewall.
[09:32] <poningru> Toba: or totem
[09:32] <NickGarvey> compotatoj: mm.. I dunno I liked it
[09:32] <sethk> kaot, installing sshd doesn't imply any need for a firewall
[09:32] <dravas> Whats the app to install Mouse Icons
[09:32] <compotatoj> NickGarvey: I tried it but it didn't work that well with my computer and I didn't need it anyways
[09:32] <NickGarvey> so is the xorgbug fixed?
[09:32] <kaot> sethk: should I point you at the old sshd security vulns and people freaking out about the 0day exploits?
[09:32] <POVaddct> zingo: learning to use iptables is the only firewall IMHO
[09:32] <dravas> Whats the app to install Mouse Icons
[09:32] <ugarit> IcemanV9:  where is the pre-remove script?
[09:32] <sethk> kaot, no, because they are nonsensical
[09:33] <kaot> ...
[09:33] <zingo> POVaddct: oh
[09:33] <NickGarvey> yes ubotu says it has
[09:33] <kaot> ok, I imagined boxes getting compromised because of that.
[09:33] <kaot> my bad.
[09:33] <sethk> kaot, certainly not with recent versions
[09:33] <ugarit> IcemanV9:  someone at #debian said: i've done this before but its not a nice thing to do.. but you could just kill clvm yourself then edit the pre-remove script its bitching about and change the exit 1 to exit 0 its failing on and it will remove for you
[09:33] <POVaddct> zingo: all other "firewalls" are just frontends to iptables
[09:33] <sethk> kaot, it's true people freaked out, but they didn't really get it.
[09:33] <kaot> sethk: crap happens. if you don't understand that, you have no business giving anyone security advice.
[09:33] <dravas> Whats teh app to easily install Different Mouse Icons
[09:33] <kaot> no, they freaked out because they got owned.
[09:33] <Toba> ><
[09:33] <Toba> how do I tell mplayer to use my tuner card
[09:33] <Toba> its interface blows
[09:34] <orbish> i've been up all night and i'm finally back up and running
[09:34] <sethk> kaot, I think you aren't really understanding what happened.
[09:34] <kjm> can someone recommend a decent vnc viewer?
[09:34] <dravas> Whats teh app to easily install Different Mouse Icons
[09:34] <IcemanV9> ugarit: interesting. more work to remove it!
[09:34] <hawkaloogie> kjm, tightvncviewer
[09:34] <SKossu> kaot: Did it, though it says creating symbolic link `/build' to `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.14-26-386': File exists
[09:35] <kjm> hawkaloogie : thanks
[09:35] <NickGarvey> !xorgbug > Rusty1
[09:35] <sethk> SKossu, make sure that /build actually points there
[09:35] <Warbo> !info gcursor
[09:35] <NickGarvey> !mp3
[09:35] <ubotu> gcursor: gnome cursor theme managing software. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.061-ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 14 kB, installed size 152 kB
[09:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:35] <IdleOne> !xorgbugfix
[09:35] <ubotu> The fixed xserver-xorg-core packages has been uploaded. It is now safe to upgrade the system. First make sure that your mirror have the new version, to do that please do "sudo apt-get update" than do "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core" and make sure candidate is version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4.
[09:35] <NickGarvey> eek sorry
[09:35] <sethk> SKossu, that error will happen when /build exists, regardless of where /build points
[09:35] <SKossu> sethk: okay, cos it doesnt work correctly atm :P
[09:36] <dravas> Whats teh app to easily install Different Mouse Icons
[09:36] <zarstar> ehm
[09:36] <NickGarvey> dravas: what do you mean?
[09:36] <Warbo> dravas: Look up at what ubotu said
[09:36] <zarstar> could i've killed the "superuser"?
[09:37] <sethk> SKossu, ls -l on the link will show you what it points to
[09:37] <zingo> I just rebooted my computer and noticed that in my GRUB-List i had new entries.. Ubuntu-xxxx-k8. Somethnig that came when i installed gfx.drivers. Is that normal and how can i make that list to just Ubuntu and Windows
[09:37] <Toba> if hardware shows up in lspci, that means I have drivers, right?
[09:38] <Toba> it has a description and everything
[09:38] <NickGarvey> zingo: thats your old kernel, incase something breaks
[09:38] <void^> Toba: no.
[09:38] <Warbo> k8 is AMD, I think maybe 64bit?
[09:38] <SKossu> sethk: thanks saved me some googling time :)
[09:38] <Toba> no?
[09:38] <NickGarvey> zingo: you can edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst and comment out the entry for the new kernel though
[09:38] <sethk> zarstar, unlikely
[09:38] <zingo> NickGarvey: Ok. So the newest Kernel is always at the top?
[09:38] <NickGarvey> zingo: should be
[09:38] <Warbo> yes
[09:38] <zingo> Alright, thanks again
[09:38] <NickGarvey> :)
[09:39] <Warbo> zingo: Unless you mess around with /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:39] <zingo> Warbo: havn't touched that one yet
[09:39] <zingo> :)
[09:40] <jvai> i nko 1 thing, java is a pain to get working!
[09:40] <legind> hello there.  I'm trying to make a gnome launcher that opens gnome-terminal and enters a line of text there, but doesn't execute it
[09:40] <haasteem> hi, how do i make my pc check /etc/hosts ? i have put a whole bunch of ad sites there...
[09:40] <phreakys> hi
[09:40] <legind> any ideas?
[09:40] <phreakys> any way to get java working on ubuntu?
[09:40] <SKossu> sethk: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root src         6 2006-08-22 22:17 linux-headers-2.6.14-26-386 -> /build         no idea if thats correct :S
[09:40] <Sapaki> hi i can't configure my d-link dwl 122 to ubuntu 5.10 any ideas
[09:40] <void^> !java
[09:40] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[09:40] <NickGarvey> Sapaki: what is not working?
[09:41] <NickGarvey> Sapaki: is that a wireless card or a wired ethernet card?
[09:41] <Sapaki> wireless usb card, the OS won't recognize it
[09:41] <drbashir> What is a good filechecking program?
[09:41] <NickGarvey> phreakys: I suggest the program "easyubuntu" to help with starting java
[09:41] <Warbo> drbashir: checking?
[09:41] <NickGarvey> drbashir: fsck?
[09:41] <Acidfk> What's the model of the card?
[09:42] <drbashir> or rather, a filesystem checker, and maybe even a disk repairer (as in it can repair/mark bad clusters)
[09:42] <mhminai> \QUIT
[09:42] <drbashir> I think my HD is dying though
[09:42] <Ross> anyone know how to turn a usb wireless card into an access point, or let a windows pc access the internet through my ubuntu box wirelessly?
[09:42] <NickGarvey> drbashir: man fsck
[09:42] <Warbo> drbashir: filesystem checker = fsck
[09:43] <Warbo> Ross: Making an access point can be tricky, and it depends on the card
[09:43] <Sapaki> what do you mean what model, is dlink the model?
[09:43] <Warbo> Ross: I know it works for prism2 cards
[09:43] <POVaddct> Warbo: using a atheros card for that makes it rather easy
[09:43] <untung>  hi, how can i share a printer connected to ubuntu machine?
[09:43] <Ross> Warbo, It's an old SMC 2662W v.3, I've tried through iwconfig to set the mode to master, using a bridge, but it said it 'failed'
[09:43] <NickGarvey> !samba > untung
[09:44] <Ross> not sure what chipset it uses
[09:44] <NickGarvey> untung: that should do it
[09:44] <Warbo> Bridging the connections might work (if you get Internet from eth0 and bridge it to your wireless)
[09:44] <untung> NickGarvey: how can i set it up? i want xp machine use this printer
[09:44] <ugarit> IcemanV9:  solved it /var/lib/dpkg/info/clvm.prerm changed exit $? to exit 0 and it worked
[09:44] <kyja> nahoj: that is good to hear. I hope they can help =]
[09:44] <orbish> i need a root password in order to use alsaconf?
[09:44] <Warbo> Well I am getting a little out of my depth. I tried to do it a while ago, but I couldn't do it on my card
[09:44] <orbish> wtf?
[09:44] <Ross> Warbo, that's what I tried, but the only modes it said it supported were 'managed', and 'ad-hoc', i think
[09:45] <NickGarvey> untung: try reading the link ubotu sent you
[09:45] <Ross> same
[09:45] <Warbo> orbish: alsaconf? I didn't think that was in Ubuntu
[09:45] <SKossu> why does it give this error: ln: accessing `/build': Too many levels of symbolic links          when trying to do ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386 /build
[09:45] <nemtaro> hi, is it possible to compile a package on x86_64 but have it use the 32bit libraries and/or run as a 32bit compilation?
[09:45] <untung> ok
[09:45] <NickGarvey> orbish: alsa connects to your sound card which is a device.. so I would think so..
[09:45] <IcemanV9> ugarit: terrific! :)
[09:45] <NickGarvey> nemtaro: yes.. but.. its a little tricky if I recall
[09:45] <Warbo> nemtaro: You can set the build architecture
[09:45] <orbish> warbo: i just found it in /usr/sbin/alsaconf
[09:45] <oconnore> !ati
[09:45] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:45] <NickGarvey> nemtaro: theres a command for it.. which Warbo might know
[09:45] <orbish> NickGarvey: well the thing is, sudo doesn't find it
[09:46] <Warbo> orbish: Well if it does exist then it is a system-wide hardware changing program, so obviously it needs sudo
[09:46] <ugarit> IcemanV9:  very dangerous though
[09:46] <nemtaro> Warbo, thanks, I'm trying to install a perl module which doesn't compile on x86_64, is there a gcc flag or something I can set so it would be compiled as a 32bit?
[09:46] <NickGarvey> orbish: try sudo -i then run the command
[09:46] <orbish> ok
[09:46] <haasteem> hi, how do i make my pc check /etc/hosts ? i have put a whole bunch of ad sites there...
[09:46] <holycow> does anyone know the reasoning behind not using the official openoffice icons in ubuntu dapper?
[09:46] <Warbo> I know "./configure --arch=XXX" is usually an option for building programs
[09:46] <freedomspirit> Bonsoir
[09:47] <IdleOne> !fr
[09:47] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:47] <freedomspirit> oops Sorry
[09:47] <IdleOne> no problem
[09:47] <orbish> NickGarvey: sudo -i alsaconf "No such file or directory"
[09:47] <orbish> hmm
[09:47] <Warbo> holycow: I think it might just be a usability issue
[09:47] <NickGarvey> orbish: no, run "sudo -i" then run "alsconf"
[09:47] <orbish> oh ok
[09:47] <beniib> Hey - I have a wierd ubuntu networking problem: I cannot resolve web addresses unless I ping them first from a console. Anyone have any ideas?
[09:47] <holycow> Warbo, really? bizarre
[09:47] <legind> hello there.  I'm trying to make a gnome launcher that opens gnome-terminal and enters a line of text there, but doesn't execute it
[09:47] <drbashir> what FS does linux handle best if the disk the FS is on is probably partly broken?
[09:47] <Chu> ...This is terribly pathetic, but I seem to have trouble running a shell script. :/
[09:48] <Sapaki> d-link doesn't offer any adaptors for unix
[09:48] <Warbo> holycow: Well, I am pretty sure the icons are Free, but I would recognise a piece of paper as a word processor more than a green wavy box with seagulls
[09:49] <holycow> Warbo, disagree
[09:49] <LostFrog> Has anyone had their network card identified as eth4 instead of eth0?
[09:49] <holycow> ms office doesn't use paper or any other litteral iconography
[09:49] <holycow> as it stands current icons are beyond ugly
[09:49] <orbish> sudo -i, i see what that does, but now it's not finding the command... really weird
[09:49] <harisund> Chu: what problem?
[09:49] <Warbo> holycow: I haven't seen Ubuntu's default icons since I ran the install CD....
[09:50] <SilverMonk> hey i'm having a problem with sound
[09:50] <eyequeue> i've had a eth0, eth1, and eth2, but never eth4
[09:50] <SilverMonk> im running dapperdrake
[09:50] <holycow> *nod* no biggie was curious thank you
[09:50] <IdleOne> I'm getting a bunch of GPG error when running apt-get update. How can I fix this?
[09:50] <POVaddct> drbashir: a partially broken disk is likely to break completely. i'd say don't use it.
[09:50] <Warbo> IdleOne: Do you use external repositories
[09:50] <Warbo> ?
[09:50] <Acidfk> what's is the problem with the sound?
[09:50] <SilverMonk> im not getting any :p
[09:50] <IdleOne> Warbo, as in not ubuntu? no I dont
[09:51] <eyequeue> apt-key (8)          - APT key management utility
[09:51] <Warbo> IdleOne: Hmm, because Ubuntu's GPG keys are installed by default
[09:51] <drbashir> POVaddct, but want to try to repair it (its making a ticking sound)
[09:51] <mopflite> hmm - two dapper xserver-xorg-core updates today?
[09:51] <Acidfk> yes but if u agrre a repository in the sources.list
[09:51] <ugarit> How does one go about adding application to the "Applications" menu on the top left of Gnome?
[09:51] <LostFrog> I need to figure out how to change my ethers to eth0 and eth1.. It will blow the other techs minds if I leave it like this.. Any ideas?
[09:51] <Acidfk> i dont think so
[09:51] <IdleOne> Warbo, well I havent cjanged anything in months except for updates and upgrades and now getting GPG error
[09:52] <Warbo> ugarit: Check out Applications>Accessories>Alacarte
[09:52] <IdleOne> changed*
[09:52] <harisund> ugarit: if you want to manually add you can use an application called Alacarte Menu Editor
[09:52] <SilverMonk> so many people have had this sound problem but nobody has provided a solution to it
[09:52] <eyequeue> mopflite, /topic
[09:52] <ugarit> harisund: thanks
[09:52] <beniib> Hi - I can't resolve domain names in Ubuntu unless I ping them first. Has anyone had a similar problem?
[09:52] <mopflite> eyequeue: aha!
[09:52] <FurryNemesis> anyone know how to get my compiz themes back after the upgrade?
[09:52] <POVaddct> drbashir: if you can use smartmontools with that disk, do it to get an idea how broken it is
[09:52] <Warbo> IdleOne: Should be easy to add the keys (System>Admin>Software Properties), just weird that they aren't there already
[09:52] <eyequeue> !xgl > FurryNemesis
[09:52] <nabil2199> anyone from morocco?
[09:52] <eyequeue> FurryNemesis, try there
[09:53] <SilverMonk> does anyone know how to fix sound in ubuntu?
[09:53] <drbashir> POVaddct, thx
[09:53] <erUSUL> !sound
[09:53] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[09:53] <phatmonkey> how do i unmount an nfs volume that has gone down? anything i do with it (even umount) just locks up the shell
[09:53] <phreakys> !flash
[09:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:53] <Warbo> FurryNemesis: When you say Compiz Themes, is that just colours, or has it got a more complete theming system yet?
[09:53] <eyequeue> phatmonkey, have you read the man page?
[09:54] <phatmonkey> eyequeue, for what?!
[09:54] <eyequeue> phatmonkey, umount
[09:54] <LostFrog> Hmm.. maybe alias.
[09:54] <holycow> has anyone had the experience of a combo drive suddenly refusing to burn cd but still able to burn dvds?
[09:54] <nabil2199> SILVERMONK>>it might just be a module issue for some old sound card
[09:55] <phatmonkey> eyequeue, aah, i thought the -f switch did a similar thing to mount -f -o remount
[09:55] <ubuntu`> Hello. I have a huge problem. I run Dapper and the system updated the xorg core component today. Now X won't start. I tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" but it didn't help. What can I do now?
[09:55] <phatmonkey> eyequeue, umount: /store: device is busy
[09:55] <phatmonkey> hm
[09:56] <drbashir> POVaddct, huh, just installed smartmontools, but the cmdline to start it is not 'smartmontools' ?
[09:56] <jbroome> phatmonkey: make sure you're not in the /store dir anywhere
[09:56] <eyequeue> phatmonkey, of course, you may still have troubles with hard vs soft interrupts (mount option for nfs)
[09:56] <sethk> drbashir, smartctl, I think
[09:56] <phatmonkey> jbroome, i can't, the shell locks up if i cd to /store!
[09:56] <eyequeue> phatmonkey, if so, try the other one with future mounts
[09:56] <IdleOne> !xorgbugfix > ubuntu`
[09:56] <POVaddct> drbashir: look in /usr/share/doc/smartmontools
[09:56] <jbroome> phatmonkey: no, you need to be *out* of /store for a umount to work
[09:56] <looktj> ubuntu: hit ctrl + alt + f1, login. Then you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[09:57] <drbashir> sethk, thx, POVaddct I think I found the 2 cmds in synaptic (I installed using apt)
[09:57] <drbashir> thx
[09:57] <eyequeue> phatmonkey, use one of those gui terminals, then you can hit that x in the corner
[09:57] <phatmonkey> jbroome, yes i know, i'm just saying there's no way to get in ;)
[09:57] <POVaddct> phatmonkey: lsof /store | less
[09:57] <phatmonkey> eyequeue, yes, that's what i'm doing. what can i do now then?
[09:57] <FatDarrel> anyone run XGL ?
[09:58] <eyequeue> FatDarrel, not here
[09:58] <phatmonkey> POVaddct, seems to lock up the shell... unless it takes a while!
[09:58] <eyequeue> !anyone > FatDarrel
[09:58] <POVaddct> phatmonkey: hmm
[09:58] <Crescendo> How would I go about setting up 5.1 channel audio on Ubuntu?
[09:58] <eyequeue> !xgl > FatDarrel
[09:58] <kyja> my connection failed :/
[09:58] <kyja> I never was able to get my bcm4306 to work with anything other than fwcutter. Is there ever going to be hope I can get 54M out of this? I am right now stuck at 11M
[09:58] <phatmonkey> eyequeue, is hard mount default then?
[09:59] <eyequeue> phatmonkey, iirc, but it has been a while
[09:59] <FatDarrel> how stable is XGL ?
[09:59] <eyequeue> !xgl > FatDarrel
[09:59] <phatmonkey> eyequeue, how annoying. is there anything i can do now apart from reboot?
[09:59] <eyequeue> FatDarrel, this is NOT the channel for it
[09:59] <tiede> I need help w/ banshee. I am following thread --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202464&page=9 and I ran into this error: configure: error: The Recommendation plugin requires Banshee 0.11.0-cvs or better. Please pass --disable-recommendation to configure.
[09:59] <FatDarrel> eyequeue, found it
[10:00] <eyequeue> phatmonkey, sadly, that was the only option i could find, back when
[10:00] <sethk> phatmonkey, the lsof will complete, if that's what you mean.
[10:00] <tiede> is it safe to pass --disable-recommendation to the line?
[10:00] <eyequeue> phatmonkey, change fstab if needed, for future mounts
[10:00] <sethk> phatmonkey, or did I misread the question about something hung?
[10:00] <eyequeue> sethk, the mount / umount is hung
[10:01] <tiede> anyone can help with banshee???
[10:01] <sethk> eyequeue, ah, that is one case where you may have to reboot to clear
[10:01] <eyequeue> sethk, when the remote nfsd dies
[10:01] <phatmonkey> eyequeue, i have many machines with this share open. ouch, this'll be a right pain
[10:01] <sethk> eyequeue, although, usually leaving the phantom umount around doesn't hurt anything
[10:01] <eyequeue> phatmonkey, "share" is what?
[10:01] <eyequeue> sethk, nod
[10:01] <phatmonkey> nfs volume sorry!
[10:02] <phatmonkey> it's rather silly that there is no way to solve this
[10:02] <John[1] > Well I'm back and I'm now trying a new install of the dapper server.
[10:02] <eyequeue> phatmonkey, yeah, hard mounts are not a wise default, imo, in this imperfect world
[10:03] <sethk> phatmonkey, you trade off some flexibility in favor of performance
[10:03] <eyequeue> phatmonkey, btw, they prevent timeouts if the machine only dies briefly ... can you ssh in and revive it?
[10:03] <NemesisUK> hi whats with the latest xorg update and it breaking the xserver?
[10:03] <eyequeue> NemesisUK, /topic
[10:03] <LostFrog> ok.. I can't find a way to change eth4 to eth0, etc.
[10:04] <phatmonkey> eyequeue, it's this machine i'm doing it on now... it's only the shell that locks up
[10:04] <brianprogrammer> hey
[10:04] <brianprogrammer> I have ubuntu installed, but it will not boot anymore
[10:05] <eyequeue> brianprogrammer, won't boot?  or just no gui?
[10:05] <sethk> phatmonkey, kill the shell process.  or have you tried that?
[10:05] <brianprogrammer> no gui
[10:05] <eyequeue> brianprogrammer, quite different!  /topic
[10:05] <legind> hello there.  I'm trying to make a gnome launcher that opens gnome-terminal and enters a line of text there, but doesn't execute it.  any ideas?
[10:05] <phatmonkey> sethk, just closing it works, it's open in an xterm
[10:05] <phatmonkey> or gnome-terminal or whatever this thing is
[10:06] <NemesisUK> eyequeue, this is the ubuntu channel so whats wrong with asking the question?
[10:06] <FurryNemesis> !xgl
[10:06] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:06] <eyequeue> NemesisUK, /topic, why should we type repeatedly, ppl can read
[10:07] <orbish> checking for gcc... no   same with cc/cl
[10:07] <orbish> quick fixes?
[10:07] <eyequeue> NemesisUK, ops place things in the /topic for that reason, there are close to 900 in here
[10:07] <holycow> *blink*
[10:07] <holycow> nero has a debian package installer
[10:07] <holycow> well that is helpfull
[10:07] <NemesisUK> ok sorry my mistake
[10:08] <eyequeue> orbish, try sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:08] <micahcowan> eyequeue, a number of people new to Ubuntu, coming to this channel for support may not know what "X" is, or that that's what's broken.
[10:08] <orbish> thanks pal
[10:08] <micahcowan> could someone perhaps improve the sentence in topic?
[10:08] <eyequeue> micahcowan, hence the referral to /topic
[10:08] <micahcowan> That's my point: /topic is nowhere near clear enough.
[10:09] <Minty> Warbogot 64 bit install :) and on same grub as 32 bit :)
[10:09] <eyequeue> micahcowan, when someone doesn't, well, example: <eyequeue> brianprogrammer, won't boot?  or just no gui?  <eyequeue> brianprogrammer, quite different!  /topic
[10:09] <Warbo> Minty: You have all entries for both versions? Cool
[10:09] <Vinicius_> will ubuntu edgy come with soft-modem support /on-the-fly/?
[10:09] <Minty> warbu yes
[10:09] <brianprogrammer> so to get my gui working again what should I do?
[10:09] <eyequeue> micahcowan, we do still have humans in here too, heh
[10:10] <Minty> automati is avaiable for 64 bit ???
[10:10] <fyrestrtr> Vinicius_: depends on the softmodem, and what the linux kernel supports.
[10:10] <micahcowan> eyequeue, yes, but my point is, pointing someone at /topic is useless, if /topic itself is quite unclear.
[10:10] <eyequeue> brianprogrammer, follow the commands given at that url
[10:10] <holycow> Vinicius_, how can it? those are microsoft modems requiring windows drivers
[10:10] <Ross> !proftpd
[10:10] <ubotu> proftpd: Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.10-27ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 351 kB, installed size 1052 kB
[10:10] <holycow> do you expect ubuntu to find and package up all windows drivers for you?
[10:10] <micahcowan> Having it refer to a broken GUI instead of or in addition to X might help new users.
[10:10] <Warbo> Minty: I must be stuck in the dark ages, when leeches were used to cure all ailments and GRUB was installed to partitions....
[10:10] <nekostar> ~_~
[10:10] <nekostar> so whats the deal
[10:10] <Warbo> Minty: I think it is
[10:10] <Ross> how in the hell do i login with root permissions on my ubuntu box?
[10:11] <nekostar> dapper is bloated all to he11
[10:11] <orbish> eyequeue: that worked, thanks a bunch
[10:11] <qch> Ross: use sudo
[10:11] <Warbo> Ross: You log in as a regular user then use sudo
[10:11] <nekostar> and the xorg bug
[10:11] <eyequeue> orbish, no prob
[10:11] <Ross> through ftp?
[10:11] <nekostar> bad bad
[10:11] <Warbo> !root > Ross
[10:11] <Vinicius_> holycow, fyrestrtr: But I can put some softmodem to work on ubuntu, right?
[10:11] <fyrestrtr> Ross: you login as your normal user, then you use the power of sudo.
[10:11] <npster> Where do I get themes/skins for Xubuntu ?
[10:11] <LostFrog> Ross: login as yourself and sudo.
[10:11] <docgnome> How do I remove network interfaces from ifconfig?
[10:11] <Minty> Wrabo actually it decteded the exisiting grun on the MBR and just asked if i wanted to add to it
[10:11] <harisund> Does anyone know of a chess client in Ubuntu (or Linux) that will allow me to play chess over LAN with another computer???
[10:11] <Warbo> npster: XFCE uses GTK2, so gnome-look.org
[10:11] <eyequeue> micahcowan, i'm not sure if it's near the character limit, but you could ask an op to change it, i'm not one
[10:11] <fyrestrtr> Ross: you DO NOT want to enable root access via FTP.
[10:11] <nekostar> docgnome,
[10:11] <Ross> so use ssh to transfer files?
[10:11] <npster> Warbo: Tanks
[10:11] <eyequeue> docgnome, typically sudo ifdown whatever
[10:12] <holycow> Vinicius_, don't count on it.  you can try yes
[10:12] <nekostar> /etc/network/interfaces
[10:12] <Warbo> Minty: WOW! I really didn't know that happened! (mind you, it has been ages since I had 2 Linuxes installed)
[10:12] <Minty> but now have two sawp partitions
[10:12] <looktj> !xorgfix
[10:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xorgfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:12] <harisund> !fix
[10:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:12] <docgnome> it's not in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:12] <nekostar> or system > administration > networking
[10:12] <looktj> !fix:hit ctrl + alt + f1, login. Then you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[10:12] <eyequeue> docgnome, sudo ifdown eth0
[10:12] <fyrestrtr> looktj: /topic
[10:12] <Warbo> !xorgbugfix
[10:12] <ubotu> The fixed xserver-xorg-core packages has been uploaded. It is now safe to upgrade the system. First make sure that your mirror have the new version, to do that please do "sudo apt-get update" than do "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core" and make sure candidate is version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4.
[10:12] <harisund> looktj: I thought you added that 'fix' to Ubotu a long while back? It got erased?
[10:12] <docgnome> eyequeue: won't that interface come back after i restart though?
[10:13] <harisund> Does anybody use Ubuntu for gaming at all?
[10:13] <NickGarvey> harisund: probably
[10:13] <sethk> harisund, sure, some do
[10:13] <fyrestrtr> harisund: I do, sometimes.
[10:13] <eyequeue> docgnome, if  you have it configured as auto in interfaces(5), yes
[10:13] <sethk> harisund, but linux, in general, isn't the easy way to do gaming
[10:13] <Warbo> harisund: A little, but I have only bought one commercial game for Ubuntu (and it doesn't work)
[10:13] <harisund> hmm.. do you know of good games that are multiplayer capable over the local lan?
[10:13] <docgnome> eyequeue: it's not in the interfaces file at all
[10:13] <eyequeue> !anybody > harisund
[10:13] <eyequeue> docgnome, how did it come up then?
[10:13] <fyrestrtr> harisund: tremulous is a good one.
[10:14] <ravenous> any ID Software game, quake's, doom's
[10:14] <docgnome> eyequeue: vmware put it there... I don't know how it did it.
[10:14] <ravenous> ut2004
[10:14] <harisund> ah yes ... tremulous .. let's my Windows friends play as well fyrestrtr, but can I create a stand alone server? I am behind a LAN, but we don't have internet as of now .....
[10:14] <Crescendo> How would I go about setting up 5.1 channel audio on Ubuntu?
[10:14] <fyrestrtr> harisund: sure, you just have to launch the server part.
[10:14] <eyequeue> docgnome, vmware isn't supported here, i guess you're on your own unless there's a support channel for it
[10:15] <brianprogrammer> The link about x being broken after an update says that there has been an update pushed out since?
[10:15] <fyrestrtr> docgnome: that's the bridge adapter for your vmware guests.
[10:15] <paladinhugo> hello all
[10:15] <eyequeue> brianprogrammer, many hours ago, though propagation takes time, most mirrors now have it
[10:15] <fyrestrtr> brianprogrammer: just update your sources, and see !xorgbugfix
[10:15] <SKossu> Bah :(, easiest way to install linux source? I sat for like 30 mins answering yes, no when trying to config it
[10:15] <docgnome> fyrestrtr: Aye. I know. I don't know how to get rid of it though.
[10:15] <nekostar> x was broken last night
[10:15] <welp> how did you guys screw up X today?
[10:15] <fyrestrtr> docgnome: uninstall vmware?
[10:15] <paladinhugo> I've compiled kernel 2.6.16 and now I can't start X.. can anyone help?
[10:15] <brianprogrammer> so what do i run? sudo apt-get update?
[10:15] <docgnome> fyrestrtr: heh.
[10:15] <eyequeue> welp, /topic
[10:15] <NickGarvey> !xorgbug > Paladine
[10:16] <NickGarvey> !xorgbug > paladinhugo
[10:16] <NickGarvey> Paladine: sorry
[10:16] <eyequeue> paladinhugo, unrelated.  /topic
[10:16] <Warbo> SKossu: start with "make oldconfig" to set it up like your current setup, then use "make xconfig" or "make menuconfig" to tweak the settings
[10:16] <looktj> hit ctrl + alt + f1, login. Then you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[10:16] <eyequeue> brianprogrammer, and update then an upgrade
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> paladinhugo: why are you compiling a kernel?
[10:16] <Minty> I want to free up some some space from my Windows partion should i do in windows or can I do it in linux and if so what program do I need ?
[10:16] <eyequeue> brianprogrammer, s/and/an/
[10:17] <fyrestrtr> Minty: do it from windows
[10:17] <SKossu> thanks warbo
[10:17] <paladinhugo> fyrestrtr: to increase performance
[10:17] <Warbo> Minty: If you have Windows then use it. Linux NTFS support is either hard to set up, or dodgy
[10:17] <Minty> k
[10:17] <fyrestrtr> paladinhugo: in what way?
[10:17] <eyequeue> paladinhugo, what exactly does 2.6.16 do that you need?
[10:17] <phatmonkey> is upgrading safe now, what with all the X problems?
[10:17] <paladinhugo> I guess nothing
[10:18] <looktj> yes
[10:18] <looktj> phatmonkey: hit ctrl + alt + f1, login. Then you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[10:18] <teacordes> anybody working with 3d modelling/animation applications on ubuntu?
[10:18] <Vaske_Car> is there a way to setup vsftpd.conf file for each user diferent one?
[10:18] <paladinhugo> but I can't start with the old kernel either
[10:18] <phatmonkey> looktj, hehe. i'll leave it for now until the repositories are fixed
[10:18] <Warbo> teacordes: I have dabbled in Blender, but haven't used it for animation
[10:18] <eyequeue> paladinhugo, "can't start" means what?
[10:19] <brianprogrammer> ok thanks for the help, i'll be trying those things
[10:19] <fyrestrtr> !doesn't work
[10:19] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[10:19] <paladinhugo> X won't start
[10:19] <teacordes> Warbo: is this compatible with 3ds max formats?
[10:19] <eyequeue> paladinhugo, VERY different.  known issue, see /topic
[10:19] <Warbo> teacordes: I am not sure, hang on
[10:19] <lastent> !pastebin
[10:19] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:19] <ph8> hi all, i've just installed fglrx and now xine doesn't playback movies properly, anyone come across this problem?
[10:20] <ph8> Also if anyone's running stepmania on ubuntu I'd like to talk to them
[10:20] <ph8> :)
[10:20] <teacordes> ph8: do other video applications still work?
[10:20] <nekostar> huh
[10:20] <ph8> teacordes: playback in VLC is fine
[10:20] <nekostar> sure enough last nights xorg was .3
[10:20] <nekostar> .4 is indeed different
[10:20] <nekostar> sweet
[10:21] <Warbo> teacordes: Hmm, I can't tell right off. I am pretty sure you can get 3ds stuff to work in it, but you may have to convert it to lightwave format or something
[10:21] <nekostar> is anyone here who is in charge of repositories ?
[10:21] <teacordes> ph8: dunno then. maybe just check if you can see anything in xine conifg
[10:21] <jariep1__> hi all
[10:21] <paladinhugo> does it tell how to fix the problem?
[10:21] <John[1] > Okay, I'm at the command prompt in dapper server what is the command to update the software and get the ubuntu desktop?
[10:21] <eyequeue> nekostar, no, but propagation takes time, is that the issue?
[10:21] <teacordes> Warbo: kk. i will check it out then
[10:21] <teacordes> Warbo: thx
[10:21] <eyequeue> paladinhugo, the url there does, yes
[10:21] <nekostar> John[1] , sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:21] <fyrestrtr> John[1] : sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:21] <nekostar> :)
[10:21] <nekostar> eyequeue, mm
[10:22] <nekostar> no i was wondering if it was a roundrobin geo setup
[10:22] <paladinhugo> I'll check it out
[10:22] <frances_> hello cannot get monitor to go past 640x480 have redid xorg but no other settings avail
[10:22] <frances_> how can I fix this?
[10:22] <Tallu> Uhm. I'll be starting to use ubuntu tomorrow. I've experience with debian from before so umm.. anything I should read up on to make me 'more prepared' for the experience? (The school uses ubuntu)
[10:22] <eyequeue> nekostar, most mirrors should have it .... some are rr yes, some are single hosts
[10:22] <slimz> is there any way to install ubuntu without starting up the live cd?
[10:22] <nekostar>  http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main
[10:22] <jariep1__> I have a question about understanding the significance of localhost localdomain... I have a domain at mysubdomain.dyndns.org how do I include in my system
[10:22] <nekostar> for instance that eyequeue
[10:22] <lamego> Tallu, help.ubuntu.com , the official guide :)
[10:22] <eyequeue> slimz, the alternatecd, yes
[10:22] <nekostar> that pushes to my geo local server ?
[10:22] <Warbo> Tallu: Make sure you understand sudo, that is a big difference from Debian
[10:22] <fyrestrtr> Tallu: yeah, ubuntu is not debian, so don't try your debianisms in ubuntu -- like trying to install debian debs. Ask first, before you try your known debian solution.
[10:23] <nekostar> i was thinking of talking to one of my hosts and seeing if i could get a deal on bw
[10:23] <frances_> how to reconfigure resolution???
[10:23] <nekostar> or mebbie a local college
[10:23] <slimz> eyequeue: there isnt a command on the regular desktop cd to start the setup without booting to live?
[10:23] <orbish> where can i edit modules.conf
[10:23] <fyrestrtr> !fixres
[10:23] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto