[12:01] <FunnyMan3595> Linkmasta23: Though it might work with > instead of |, that's the /msg version.
[12:01] <bruenig> ubout, tell Linkmasta23 about language
[12:01] <bruenig> ubotu, tell Linkmasta23 about language
[12:01] <francois> hi, does anyone know how to downgrade a package easily ?
[12:02] <Linkmasta23> lol
[12:02] <bruenig> francois, apt-get remove it, and then find the older one and dpkg -i it
[12:02] <unop> francois,  sudo aptitude install package=2.1.0  .. where 2.1.o is the downgrade's version
[12:02] <Linkmasta23> ubotu, tell bruenig about language
[12:02] <snowghost> salut
[12:03] <unop> !hi | snowghost
[12:03] <ubotu> snowghost: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:03] <bruenig> !fr | snowghost
[12:03] <ubotu> snowghost: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:03] <crusoe> unop: http://pastebin.ca/348122
[12:03] <cypherdelic_> how to invert xterm? anybody knows please.
[12:03] <unop> cypherdelic_,  invert xterm?
[12:03] <snowghost> invert?
[12:03] <lordkeiden> i have been told by many people on these forums that linux won't swap to the hard drive unless it runs out of ram. y do i show 100MB free ram, and 174MB of swap in use?
[12:03] <sleepster> I am looking at the ubuntu site, and it says it supports power PC processors MAC.... would this work normally on my MAC? or do I have to do anything special to get it to run
[12:03] <cafuego_> xterm -fg while -bg black; xterm -fg black -bg white
[12:04] <funkyHat> I'm trying to get my console resolution to 1280x800... anyone managed it?
[12:04] <cafuego_> lordkeiden: Many people on these forums are - excuse the phrase - full of shit.
[12:04] <tuskernini> !xvidcapture
[12:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xvidcapture - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:04] <FunnyMan3595> cypherdelic_: That should be white, not whiile
[12:04] <Linkmasta23> !bunny
[12:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bunny - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:04] <francois> unop: it says it can't find the version, but i'm typing in the correct version,
[12:04] <Linkmasta23> !hotcrossbuns
[12:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hotcrossbuns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:04] <PriceChild> !ohmy | cafuego_
[12:04] <ubotu> cafuego_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:05] <PriceChild> !botabuse | Linkmasta23
[12:05] <ubotu> Linkmasta23: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[12:05] <cafuego_> lordkeiden: linux will use swap intelligently. If an application is idle for a few hours, Linux will move that app into swap space and use the freed ram as disk cache for other applications.
[12:05] <GionnyBoss> I'm trying to install Ubuntu Edgy on an old computer... but it's all very slow and I can't do anything. Is there a way to install it without graphical interface?
[12:05] <bruenig> GionnyBoss, the server edition
[12:05] <morrolan> GionnyBoss - yes, use the alternate install CD, available from the website
[12:05] <cypherdelic_> how to invert xterm? anybody knows please.
[12:06] <lordkeiden> cafuego_: lol...i am seeing that....so where is a good resource to learn about how linux manages ram? and maybe bow to get it to use more ram and less swap?
[12:06] <cafuego_> lordkeiden: That disk cache will be written to disk when it can do so without affecting performance... but by keeping it accessible in swap *anyway* access will be faster, should it need the files again.
[12:06] <GionnyBoss> but with the normal CD, how can I do to make installation faster? I mean... I don't know why it is so slow... it's a pentium 3 800 MHz, it shouldn't be so slow
[12:06] <gumpish> Is there any reason NOT to use the AMD64 release of Dapper if you have a 64 bit CPU?
[12:06] <unop> crusoe,  yes, your sources.list does not have the edgy repos in -- i've modified your sources.list to include them -- http://pastebin.ca/348125  -- change sources.list to reflect that -- gksudo sh -c "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list; aptitude update; aptitude dist-upgrade"
[12:06] <cafuego_> gumpish: video/java/flash
[12:06] <bruenig> GionnyBoss, how slow is slow. It took me about 30 min or so
[12:06] <gumpish> :o
[12:06] <jinho> hi
[12:07] <francois> arg
[12:07] <bruenig> !hi | jinho
[12:07] <ubotu> jinho: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:07] <sleepster> Has anyone run Ubuntu on a MAC
[12:07] <jinho> how can I tell which version of ubuntu I have (if i have dapper or edgy for instance)
[12:07] <GionnyBoss> bruenig, 30 min just to start up? before installing? I can't click on install icon, it's very slow!
[12:07] <unop> francois,  what does apt-cache policy package name return to you?
[12:07] <bruenig> !versoin | jinho
[12:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about versoin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:07] <bruenig> !version | jinho
[12:07] <ubotu> jinho: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[12:07] <Madpilot> jinho, System->About Ubuntu
[12:07] <unop> francois,  to install the required version apt-cache must be aware of it
[12:07] <cafuego_> lordkeiden: You don't want it to not use that swap. Using it means your machine is *faster* than it would be without it.
[12:07] <jinho> thanks
[12:07] <bruenig> !thanks | jinho
[12:08] <ubotu> jinho: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[12:08] <gumpish> So then let me ask the next logical question - is there any reason TO run the AMD64 release of Dapper? I dont' expect I need a 64 bit OS for anything I'm doing...
[12:08] <spider> end
[12:08] <bruenig> gumpish, no
[12:08] <francois> unop: oh most excellent ! kudos to you, thanks a lot
[12:08] <gumpish> ok then. thanks!
[12:08] <unop> francois,  so, does the version exist or not?
[12:08] <TurtleBoots> !nvidia
[12:08] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:08] <GionnyBoss> bruenig, I don't know why it needs ages of time just to start up... I installed Ubuntu on other computer and it was faster... any suggestions please?
[12:09] <compman>   ?
[12:09] <bruenig> GionnyBoss, oh you are talking about startup, I thought you were talking about the install itself after you get to the desktop
[12:09] <bruenig> !english
[12:09] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[12:09] <ziadoz> whats the difference between a logical and primary partition?
[12:09] <francois> unop: not the one i wanted, but an old one that worked, so i'll just apt-get that one, even though its multiple versions behind, do I just sudo apt-get install name=version ?
[12:09] <bruenig> ziadoz, as far as linux is concerned, nothing really
[12:09] <GionnyBoss> bruenig, yeah.. I tryed to change CD ROM drive with a faster one I have at home... but it didn't solve the problem... it's still very slow
[12:10] <ziadoz> bruenig, so im setting up dual boot ubuntu and xp
[12:10] <lordkeiden> cafuego_: i don't mind swap, but 100MB seems to ba a fair chunk of ram just hanging out there....i'm thinking that the more in ram, the faster it is, as long as it can manage it well. Keep in mind too that My knowledge of memory management is from windows 2000 mainly...
[12:10] <ziadoz> and its asking me what to put ubuntu as, should i choose primary or logical?
[12:10] <bruenig> ziadoz, how many partitions do you have?
[12:10] <unop> ziadoz,  those are terms used in DOS partition tables -- a maximum of 4 primary partitions can exist on one hard disk -- if you require more than 4 partitions, an extended partition must be created to house other sub-partitions
[12:10] <ziadoz> the disk currently has 2 partitions
[12:11] <ziadoz> but im removing one of them
[12:11] <bruenig> ziadoz, just go with primary
[12:11] <shmulik> Ubuntu's device manager says that my video card is an Intel 945GM, but in my xorg.conf says "	Device		"ATI Technologies, Inc. ATI Default Card""
[12:11] <Steve^> Hey, is either nvidia/ati more supported for linux?
[12:11] <bruenig> ziadoz, so long as you don't go over four primary will do
[12:11] <bruenig> four, primary
[12:11] <ziadoz> ok thanks guys
[12:11] <sycho> Steve^ mostly nvidia if I'm correct
[12:11] <Steve^> Ok, that's what I had thought, but I wondered if it had changed
[12:11] <arn_> hi, where can i get my font folder?
[12:12] <cafuego_> lordkeiden: have a read of this thread: http://kerneltrap.org/node/3202
[12:12] <crusoe> unop: is there a quick way to delete all the text in xterm and copy in your modified version?
[12:12] <lasttime> hi.
[12:12] <Steve^> for instance, my friend says his x1600 works perfectly
[12:12] <Steve^> *x1800
[12:12] <crusoe> unop: sry, sources.list
[12:12] <cafuego_> lordkeiden: it's not quite so straightforward as having as much as possible in actual ram.
[12:12] <unop> lordkeiden,  it's safe to have some swap =- the kernel only ever uses swap if it needs to .. and when it does, it tries to make sure it doesnt impose a performance penalty (although in some cases, it just cant be helped)
[12:12] <RasQulec> Steve^: nvidia is generaly regarded as better supported
[12:12] <RasQulec> Steve^: I have a 7800gt I game on daily
[12:13] <bruenig> crusoe, sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:13] <unop> crusoe, why dont you use gedit? .. gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:13] <sycho> Steve^, No, I just did some reading on it as I just upgraded to feisty. The ati drivers are not working 100%. But this is do to lack of support of ATI then it is of feisty.
[12:13] <sleepy723> What's a really good IRC client for Ubuntu/Kubuntu..etc?
[12:13] <cafuego_> lordkeiden: Specifically, the bit further down by David Schwartz
[12:13] <bruenig> sleepy723, xchat
[12:13] <Steve^> game on daily? with linux?
[12:13] <morrolan> sleepy723 - irssi!
[12:13] <RasQulec> Steve^: yes
[12:13] <bruenig> irssi ha
[12:14] <francois> irssi
[12:14] <morrolan> I'm using irssi
[12:14] <bruenig> bitchx
[12:14] <cafuego_> lordkeiden: http://sourcefrog.net/weblog/software/linux-kernel/swap.html
[12:14] <TurtleBoots> hi girls!
[12:14] <GionnyBoss> is there an Ubuntu installation guide somewhere I can follow to install it in text mode?
[12:14] <arn_> i have a "*.ttf" font. can anyone tell me where should i put that? i cant read my native language site for that
[12:14] <lordkeiden> cafuego_: thanks. I have to know this if i'm ever gonna be as good in linux as i am in windows...vista pushed me here, and beryl made me glad for it.
[12:15] <bruenig> arn_, /usr/share/fonts
[12:15] <morrolan> arn:  in a window address bar, type fonts:/// and drag it into there
[12:15] <sycho> GionnyBoss, The install in text mode is self explanatory.
[12:15] <bruenig> arn_, there may be some more navigation from /usr/share/fonts depending on  your setup but that is where the fonts are housed
[12:15] <GionnyBoss> it ask me "boot: " and I don't know what to do, sycho
[12:16] <morrolan> GionnyBoss:  press enter.
[12:16] <GionnyBoss> sycho, should I download a different Ubuntu CD installation to do installation in text mode?
[12:16] <GionnyBoss> aaah just press enter, ok!
[12:16] <GionnyBoss> thanks
[12:16] <sycho> GionnyBoss, what cd did you download?
[12:16] <unop> !alternate | GionnyBoss
[12:16] <ubotu> GionnyBoss: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[12:17] <GionnyBoss> I have the desktop CD
[12:17] <GionnyBoss> is there an anlternate installation CD for Edgy, too?
[12:17] <unop> GionnyBoss, sure
[12:17] <bruenig> GionnyBoss, certainly
[12:17] <GionnyBoss> ok thanks
[12:17] <corevette> how do i get to mysql once installed from synaptic?
[12:17] <GionnyBoss> so there is no way to install it text mode with a Desktop CD?
[12:17] <vinny> I have the file backup.tgz on the very top of the filesystem (root?) How do i delete it? (send to trash resonds with permission denied)
[12:17] <sycho> GionnyBoss, Theres an alternative cd for edgy as well as feisty
[12:17] <corevette> GionnyBoss the Ubuntu Alternative CD
[12:17] <GionnyBoss> ok thanks a lot
[12:18] <unop> vinny,  at a terminal - sudo rm backup.tgz
[12:18] <sleepy723> does irssi have a cloaking option?
[12:18] <corevette> how do i get to mysql once installed from synaptic?
[12:18] <unop> corevette,  use the mysql utility - mysql -u username -p password
[12:18] <sleepster> Has anyone run Ubuntu on a MAC with power prc
[12:18] <sleepster> prc
[12:18] <sleepster> pc
[12:19] <vinny> Thank you unop. learning more everyday
[12:19] <morrolan> Can anyone tell me how to format an external laptop HDD (USB2) to fat32?  Gparted keeps mounting it and then complaining it's mounted, and cfdisk will only create the partition table if the drive is bootable, which I don't particularly want?
[12:19] <cafuego_> sleepster: Yup, it runs fine on my iBook G4.
[12:19] <corevette> unop how do i know my username/password?
[12:19] <crusoe> unop: www.pastebin.ca/348139
[12:19] <FunnyMan3595> viny: gksu nautilus works too, if you want a GUI method.
[12:19] <unop> vinny,  the problem is you need write permissions on a file to delete it -- in this case, it'l likely you didnt have them so you needed sudo
[12:20] <FunnyMan3595> *vinny
[12:20] <corevette> Unop: ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[12:20] <Jowi> morrolan, why does it mount automatically?
[12:20] <FunnyMan3595> And he left.  ><
[12:20] <sleepster> cafuuego_ does it need to be an itenl processor?
[12:20] <sleepster> intel
[12:20] <unop> corevette,  run this again -- sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow mysql-server
[12:20] <Jowi> morrolan, is it specified in /etc/fstab to do that?
[12:20] <morrolan> I have no idea - if I unmount it then open Gparted, I instruct it to erase the ext3 partition and replace it with fat32, it keeps mounting it halfway through.
[12:21] <arn_> bruenig, i found lotz of folders inside "/usr/share/fonts" folder, where should i put my font so that firefox can use it?
[12:21] <morrolan> Jowi - no, it isn't in /etc/fstab
[12:21] <lasttime> hi, i'm polish and my english isn't good, but i would like to explain my problem: how can i look trough windows's files from windows ?
[12:21] <corevette> unop nvm...didn't install the server
[12:21] <lasttime> from linux &
[12:21] <Jowi> morrolan, are you using gnome?
[12:21] <lasttime> *
[12:21] <cypherdelic_> how to invert xterm? anybody knows please.
[12:21] <morrolan> Jowi - yes, hence Gparted
[12:21] <unop> crusoe,  have you succcessfully managed to edit your sources.list with the one i gave you? if so .. just run this instead -- sudo sh -c "aptitude update; aptitude dist-upgrade"
[12:22] <TurtleBoots> !nvidia
[12:22] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:22] <bean-oh> cypherdelic, man xterm
[12:22] <crusoe> unop: i just copy/pasted and saved what you posted on pastebin
[12:22] <apelsinchoklad__> hi
[12:22] <FunnyMan3595> polish | lasttime
[12:22] <FunnyMan3595> !polish | lasttime
[12:22] <ubotu> lasttime: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[12:22] <sycho> I ran into an odd thing with fstab. If I add my HD to mount then it will not place the mounted HD in Nautilus under Places. However if I remove the HD from fstab ubuntu will detect the drive and place it in nautilus under places. Why is that?
[12:22] <Jowi> morrolan, I use gparted but not gnome so I had to ask. In gnome, there are settings for automount cd's and usb devices. can you make sure everything in there is turned off?
[12:22] <unop> crusoe,  cool, just run the command then :)
[12:22] <morrolan> Jowi - sure, will do
[12:23] <tha_toadman> question for the gallery....why would my ubuntu 6.10 alternate ISO have trouble detecting a SATA hard drive?
[12:23] <crusoe> unop; beauty, it's getting pkg's now!!
[12:23] <lfdagm> hello, i have a 64 bits laptop byt i dont know wether 32 bit ubuntu has been installed, how can i know if i have the 64 bit os?
[12:23] <lasttime> thx
[12:23] <ericb> dire need of assistance with grub
[12:23] <sn0m> hi i got a lap top, does anyone know how to vista
[12:23] <unop> tha_toadman,  unlikely -- it has more of a chance at detecting and dealing with SATA and RAID configurations than the liveCD has
[12:24] <shatrat> lfdagm, uname -r will tell you the name of your kernel
[12:24] <sycho> tha_toadman, are you trying to manually mount?
[12:24] <lfdagm> if it end with 386 then i have the 32b right?
[12:24] <morrolan> Jowi - cheers dude, that was the problem, Gparted did it without a hitch once I'd told Gnome not to automount
[12:24] <morrolan> :)
[12:24] <LinX> who needs help
[12:24] <sycho> LinX, I so
[12:24] <Jowi> morrolan, glad i could help :)
[12:24] <tha_toadman> unop: my northbridge is ICH7 and i've tried the 2 options of 'achi' and a??..piix and they didn't work either...??
[12:24] <sycho> do*
[12:24] <witless> any opinions of freeloader as a bittorrent client?
[12:24] <morrolan> LinX - I need financial help.  and mental help.  Does that count?
[12:25] <crusoe> unop; at the end, it says "accept this solution" is that the normal thing that comes up?
[12:25] <tha_toadman> sycho: no - i'm trying to load off an ISO and do a fresh install
[12:25] <apelsinchoklad__> i am trying to install ubuntu on my old imac 233mhz, 160mb ram ... but after it has load.. (it says "ubuntu" and loadning).. it all turn just black...... whats wrong?? is the computer to old to work whit ubuntu??
[12:25] <LinX>  lol
[12:25] <shatrat> lfdagm, yes
[12:25] <lfdagm> thanks
[12:25] <shatrat> lfdagm, are you on dapper?
[12:25] <lfdagm> 6.06
[12:25] <ericb> i installed ubuntu on the 2nd partition of my sata drive, hd2. i am looking at the boot loader i installed on hd2 right now but trying to boot root hd2,1 says it is not a valid partition
[12:25] <lfdagm> dont know that codename that is
[12:25] <jinho> how do I find out what version kernel I have?
[12:25] <lfdagm> uname -r
[12:25] <shatrat> lfdagm, k, thats dapper.  The newer versions use a -generic instead of -386
[12:26] <Jowi> apelsinchoklad__, if you wait a while, do you hear a startup/login sound (even if the screen is black)?
[12:26] <jinho> thanks lfdagm
[12:26] <ericb> oh snap
[12:26] <funkyHat> Is there a way to get GDM to execute commands after startup and before shutdown?
[12:26] <apelsinchoklad__> Jowi: yes
[12:26] <sycho> LinX, I'm trying to figure out if I mount my HD in fstab then for some reason Nautilus will not display it under Places. But it still mounts it properly. But If I remove the HD from fstab then ubuntu auto detects it but will place it under nautilus places for me. Why is this? the only reason I mind is i would like to mount the hd using ntfs-3g.
[12:26] <HP_Vue> Is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org open source?
[12:26] <ericb> despite ubuntu being on hd2, and the boot loader being on hd2, it thinks its on hd0
[12:26] <ericb> thats retarded
[12:27] <shatrat> HP_Vue, what do you mean? its a website.
[12:27] <funkyHat> I want to run 'rmmod vesafb && modprobe radeonfb' once GDM has loaded, and the reverse before GDM shuts down the system
[12:27] <shatrat> HP_Vue, if you want to see the source, just click View Source ;)
[12:27] <HP_Vue> shatrat: Thats not the real source
[12:27] <morrolan> shatrat - I think he wants to host his lown pastebin site :)
[12:27] <HP_Vue> I mean the PHP
[12:27] <Jowi> apelsinchoklad__, then you will have to disable the framebuffer. I don't know how to do that on a ppc unfortunatly... do you use grub on that machine?
[12:27] <HP_Vue> morrolan: Correct
[12:27] <lfdagm> thanks for the help
[12:27] <lfdagm> cya
[12:28] <HP_Vue> So, would I be able to get the source/
[12:28] <shatrat> HP_Vue, Ive seen several sites running it, there might be a sourceforge project for it or something, I dont know exactly though.
[12:28] <HP_Vue> oh
[12:28] <corevette> unop...ok i ran: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow mysql-server
[12:29] <morrolan> HP_Vue: http://sourceforge.net/projects/openpastebin/
[12:29] <Massinha> buenas povo
[12:29] <HP_Vue> Thank alot
[12:29] <apelsinchoklad__> Jowi: what is grub?? ..ok i try disable that somehow.. just need to ask some mac-guys.. thanks.
[12:29] <amonbish> ??
[12:29] <Jowi> apelsinchoklad__, you're vlkommen
[12:30] <sparr> my apps are responding very slowly, and i hear my hard drive(s) thrashing.  top says nothing is using a lot of cpu time, so i assume paging is at fault.  how can i find the app/process responsible for the problem?
[12:30] <Prez_> hello
[12:30] <Jowi> apelsinchoklad__, (grub is a bootloader)
[12:30] <apelsinchoklad__> Jowi: tackar tackar..  svenska?
[12:30] <corevette> how do i get to mysql on ubuntu linux?
[12:30] <apelsinchoklad__> Jowi: ok
[12:30] <shatrat> corevette, sudo apt-get install mysql?
[12:31] <Jowi> apelsinchoklad__, yeah, but are living abroad since 6-7 years
[12:31] <morrolan> sparr, open a system monitor applet and configure it so you can keep an eye out
[12:31] <corevette> already installed shatrat...how do i find the server information?
[12:31] <apelsinchoklad__> Jowi: okej
[12:31] <sparr> morrolan: keep an eye out for what?
[12:31] <Prez_> running Ubuntu 6.10 and cannot download pics from my canon SD800, i get An error has ocurred in io-library ('Could not claim the USB device'): Could not claim interface 0...
[12:31] <jinho> ok I might not be understanding something but I have kernel version 2.6.15-23-386, but the kernel-header packages on synaptic are all 2.4.xx, does that mean there's a mismatch between what I need and what's on synaptic, or is the 2.4.xx number completely different from my kernel version for kernel packages?
[12:31] <Prez_> anyoen familiar with that?
[12:32] <morrolan> watch your CPU, memory, swap and HDD access, and try and eliminate down to what is causing what
[12:32] <Jowi> apelsinchoklad__, in grub you disable the framebuffer by passing the option "vga=normal" if that's any use to you.
[12:32] <erUSUL> jinho: 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)'
[12:32] <morrolan> Prez_ I get the same with my camera, but I haven't looked into it yet :(
[12:32] <unop> corevette,  dpkg-reconfigure would have asked you for details such as the mysql root password, etc .. you can then use them later in the mysql command used to connect to it
[12:32] <Prez_> morrolan: just tried running gthumb as sudo, it worked!
[12:32] <f9lewis> What should i use to go on IRC with Ubuntu? Im on kopete now and its kinda bad
[12:33] <Prez_> morrolan: how could I set it for use by my user?
[12:33] <Jowi> apelsinchoklad__, on a "PC" it should also be possible to do in BIOS (but I have no idea if a PPC is similar)
[12:33] <morrolan> f9lewis, irssi, bitchx, x-chat
[12:33] <unop> f9lewis,  xchat
[12:33] <m_billybob> f9lewis: XChat ?
[12:33] <f9lewis> alrigh
[12:33] <morrolan> Prez_ gthumb is only working as sudo?
[12:33] <f9lewis> t
[12:33] <mandrill> where can I find icons (on the system, not externally)?
[12:33] <f9lewis> brb
[12:33] <jinho> erUSUL: awesome- btw besides the headers what else would I need to build my own drivers?, if you know that is
[12:33] <mandrill> !icons
[12:33] <ubotu> Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (Gnome) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)
[12:33] <Prez_> morrolan: the import from camera just worked, using sudo
[12:33] <jinho> erUSUL- would greatly appreciate the help
[12:33] <unop> mandrill,  /usr/share/{icons, pixmaps}
[12:34] <corevette> shatrat how do i find out my mysql username/password??
[12:34] <nanothief> how do you add a folder to the PATH variable for the terminal?
[12:34] <mandrill> thnx unop :)
[12:34] <unop> nanothief,  use this command  - export PATH=$PATH:/path/to/newdir
[12:34] <morrolan> Prez_ what exactlydid you type?
[12:34] <Jowi> mandrill, you can also install them in ~/.icons if you want them only available to your user.
[12:34] <unop> nanothief,  you can add that command to your .bashrc to make this persistent
[12:34] <nanothief> thanks
[12:34] <jinho> besides the kernel-headers, what other packages do I need to build drivers (i.e. the NVIDIA display drivers)
[12:34] <Prez_> morrolan: just sudo gthumb then did an import photos
[12:35] <apelsinchoklad__> Jowi: running os x on it now.. dont now how to do.. think i will have to go looking in the terminal-program..
[12:35] <morrolan> Prez_ thanks!
[12:35] <Prez_> morrolan: so i guess my rgular user does not have access to whatever USb stuff it needs to import photos
[12:35] <erUSUL> jinho: sudo apt-get build-essential <<<< and that's it
[12:36] <acts_as_idiot> Hello all. Any Xen users here? I'm fighting to get it installed on Edgy...
[12:36] <morrolan> Prez_, it could be the device itself when it is opened - does it mount it like a normal USB disk, because mine doesn't
[12:36] <morrolan> !xen
[12:36] <ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[12:36] <jinho> haha thanks erUSUL
[12:36] <m_billybob> acts_as_idiot: Xen + edgy (udev) is a PITA
[12:36] <m_billybob> acts_as_idiot: join ##Xen
[12:36] <Prez_> morrolan: does not mount it like regular USB disk...
[12:36] <erUSUL> jinho: no problem
[12:37] <acts_as_idiot> m_billybob: PITA?
[12:37] <m_billybob> acts_as_idiot: pain in the arse . . .
[12:37] <unop> acts_as_idiot,  pain in the backside
[12:37] <morrolan> Prez_ thats good, it might work for me then.  Once the camera is importing photo's, do you know what the /dev/DEVICE is that the camera uses?
[12:37] <acts_as_idiot> lol, yes I'm finding that.
[12:37] <ldiamond> hum, how do i show the userlist on Xchat?
[12:37] <Prez_> someone know what permissions I might have to give my regular user to access a ptp/ip camera?  gthumb imported fine using sudo, but regular user I get an io-library error
[12:37] <Jowi> acts_as_idiot, http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=define%3A+PITA&btnG=Search&hl=en (see last entry)
[12:38] <ldiamond> oh i kinda found it
[12:38] <corevette> how do i find out my mysql username/password??
[12:38] <witless> unrar-free is not extracting multi-part rar archives...  is there another alternative?
[12:38] <unop> corevette,  were you not prompted for those details when you installed mysql-server?
[12:38] <acts_as_idiot> jowi: thanks
[12:38] <Jowi> witless, "unrar"
[12:38] <m_billybob> acts_as_idiot: anyhow join ##Xen, see if icblenke can enlighten you
[12:38] <Jowi> !unrar
[12:38] <ubotu> unrar is rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression  There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[12:39] <GionnyBoss> will Ubuntu Edgy work on an old computer with 128 MB Ram?
[12:39] <acts_as_idiot> m_billybob: thanks, I'll try him
[12:39] <corevette> no unop
[12:39] <GionnyBoss> I can't find information about minimal requisites for Ubuntu Edgy...
[12:39] <Jowi> GionnyBoss, yes. use the alternative cd.
[12:39] <morrolan> GionnyBoss: not really, you'd be better running Xubuntu.
[12:39] <morrolan> !xubuntu | GionnyBoss
[12:39] <ubotu> GionnyBoss: xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[12:39] <unop> witless,  make sure you have all the .rar parts in the same folder -- then unrar the main one -- usually ending with .rar or .r0, etc
[12:40] <Jinho> I just tried installing the nvidia drivers and now all I get is the Kubuntu startup screen but nothing's loading underneath...is this normal and should I wait or is this a sign that something's screwed up?
[12:40] <m_billybob> anyone here setup beryl on Edgy ? just curious how hard it was
[12:40] <ijk> I put the w32 codecs and generally all the media codecs I could find (using automatix) into my newly installet Ubuntu-system. But there's a problem. The colors in the videos are pale, but if I open the same video again while playing the colors are normal. Any idea?
[12:40] <unop> corevette,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow mysql mysql-server  - ought to prompt you for those details
[12:41] <witless> Jowi: unop:   thanks, it's working
[12:41] <Ferret> ijk: Maybe some godawful program called automatix broke it
[12:41] <unop> ijk,  thats one of the problems of mixing various codecs packages -- stick to one, the popular package is w32codecs
[12:41] <morrolan> m_billybob:  I have an Intel 810 graphics card (rubbish) and I got XGL/Beryl working without a hitch"
[12:42] <ijk> I see. Will try to uninstall them somehow. Thanks.
[12:42] <m_billybob> morrolan: whats the other one ASXGL ?
[12:42] <m_billybob> thats the one id be shooting for, just curious how much it involves
[12:42] <unop> ijk,  also know why automatix is not a good thing to use
[12:42] <yellow> morrolan, really ? what's the rest of your bo'xs specs ?
[12:42] <johan_> GionnyBoss, here's an excellent link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems
[12:42] <unop> !automatix | ijk
[12:42] <ubotu> ijk: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:43] <morrolan> yellow:  It is a Toshiba Satellite, 2.6 Intel Celeron, 512Mb, Intel 810 graphics, 30Gb HDD
[12:43] <HP_Vue> morrolan: Were did http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org get all those Syntax's from?
[12:43] <ijk> I should've known that. It just seemed like an easy way to get started!
[12:43] <GionnyBoss> johan_, thanks a lot!
[12:43] <m_billybob> and on a lappy too . . .
[12:43] <morrolan> HP_Vue, I have no idea about pastebin, I just knew there was a version on sourceforge.  Sorry
[12:43] <yellow> morrolan, cool
[12:43] <jowi_realone> m_billybob, what video chipset do you have?
[12:43] <HP_Vue> oh
[12:44] <m_billybob> 6600GT
[12:44] <sycho> anyone know how I can get nautilus to list drives in /etc/fstab ??
[12:44] <morrolan> yellow, for info, I followed the ATi guide on Ubuntuguide.org
[12:44] <m_billybob> its a leadtek 6600GT to be specific (128MB ram)
[12:44] <morrolan> just didn't install any ATi drivers
[12:44] <unop> sycho,  most of the mounted devices exist in /media -- so navigate there
[12:44] <yellow> morrolan, thanks!
[12:44] <ijk> thanks for the help - seems like I'll have a fresh install then!
[12:44] <morrolan> slows down a little when I'm pushing it though, but it's great to show off with!
[12:44] <sycho> unop, I know that but I want nautilus to list them under places. :)
[12:45] <m_billybob> Anyhow, i figured i could tack down a howto, was just curious how involved it was.
[12:45] <m_billybob> track down*
[12:45] <morrolan> I want to try Xubuntu, but I don't want to be left with a load of unused packages once I'm finished with it - any ideas on how to manage useless packages?
[12:45] <exa34> I'm having a lot of trouble trying to install linux on my laptop.. i have finally figured out that it's because of the fakeRAID configuration and i'm trying to use dmraid to fix it. When i activate dmraid it recognizes the volume in /dev/mapper but it doesn't list the separate partitions.. could anyone help me out
[12:46] <unop> sycho,  add a bookmark for that location :)
[12:46] <m_billybob> morrolan: as the risk of running off topic, take a gander at Sabayon, it DEFINATELY looks pretty.
[12:46] <sycho> unop, probably would be the easiest way, eh?
[12:46] <m_billybob> i cant wait for Edgy to do a LiveCD, that uses Beryl
[12:46] <unop> sycho,  probably the only way too :)
[12:46] <imbecile> sooo say i have a wireless scanner on my desktop and i ssh into it with my windows laptop could i still use my linux scanners via my laptop?
[12:46] <ferret_0567> What package contains the "tree" command in 6.10?
[12:46] <unop> morrolan,  do you want to remove all the gnome packages? is that what you want?
[12:47] <morrolan> m_billybob - do you have a decent link?
[12:47] <sycho> unop, so why if i don't list my drives in fstab, ubuntu mounts and nautilus lists them?
[12:47] <ijk> my experience with Beryl is an exponential growth of crashes during uptime.
[12:47] <ferret_0567> nevermind
[12:47] <m_billybob> morrolan: well, i dont think it would be approprieate here, but google SabayonLinux
[12:47] <unop> ferret_0567,  package by the same name -- tree
[12:47] <sycho> unop, but if i do mount them in fstab then nautilus won't list them (but they still mount fine)
[12:47] <morrolan> unop, I want to TRY xubuntu but leave gnome.  If I finish with Xubuntu, how can I uninstall all of it's dependencies that Synaptic lists along with it?
[12:47] <morrolan> space is at a premium
[12:48] <Ferret> ferret_0567: use packages.ubuntu.com next time perhaps?
[12:48] <unop> morrolan,  this might help http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[12:48] <ferret_0567> I already figured it out
[12:48] <ferret_0567> without the help of packages.ubuntu.com
[12:48] <jowi_realone> morrolan, "sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop" that keeps track of everything it installs. use "sudo aptitude remove --purge xubuntu-desktop" to remove it again.
[12:48] <ferret_0567> aptitude is your friend
[12:48] <Flannel> morrolan: debfoster/deborphan can be used
[12:49] <unop> sycho,  i'm not sure i follow -- can you explain a little better?
[12:49] <jowi_realone> morrolan, aptitude keeps track. apt-get not so much.
[12:49] <sycho> unop, may I message you?
[12:49] <morrolan> thanks
[12:49] <unop> sycho,  you may
[12:49] <yellow> jowi_realone, what does aptitude keep trakc of ?
[12:49] <Prez_> morrolan: solved
[12:49] <jowi_realone> yellow, dependencies of metapackages.
[12:49] <yellow> jowi_realone, ah, tx
[12:49] <m_billybob> unop: is there a 'server mode' install for edgy that you're away of ?
[12:49] <m_billybob> aware of*
[12:50] <Flannel> m_billybob: yes, ther is.
[12:50] <ferret_0567> I have my own website: http://travism.hopto.org
[12:50] <unop> m_billybob,  there's a ubuntu server CD - is that what you are after?
[12:50] <quaal> do we have any known program that will open .daa (PowerISO) files ?
[12:50] <Prez_> morrolan: for the canon sd800 do the following, add: YSFS{idVendor}=="04a9", SYSFS{idProduct}=="3136", MODE="0660", GROUP="plugdev"  to the /etc/udev/rules.d/45-libgphoto2.rules file, then restart udev
[12:50] <ferret_0567> Isn't Linux great :)
[12:51] <m_billybob> unop: well simply put Dapper has bad I/O, atleast on that machine ive tested it on, im looking for a simple CLI install of Edgy, the I/O diffference is huge
[12:51] <quaal> ferret_0567, doesnt take linux to create a website.
[12:51] <ferret_0567> Well...atleast it hosts it without so many security vulnerabilities
[12:51] <Flannel> m_billybob: If you want a "server" install, (with the server kernel), the server CD.  If you just want a desktop sans GUI, the alternate CD, then the 'server' option from that
[12:51] <unop> m_billybob,  well, what i tend to do is use a minimal install -- netinstall maybe and then add on what i do need
[12:52] <ferret_0567> And Linux users are typically smarter than the average
[12:52] <Linkmasta23> joe
[12:52] <m_billybob> unop: im familiar wit hthe Debian netinstall, is it simular to debian ?
[12:52] <m_billybob> or do you mean F6 at CD boot ?
[12:52] <Flannel> m_billybob: there's no reason to do a netinstall.  If you don't want to download the whole CD, you can use the minimal ISO (~8mb)
[12:53] <unop> m_billybob,  i do the latter -- and i'm sure there's a ubuntu netinstall too
[12:53] <kyng> ayuda
 And Linux users are typically smarter than the average <-- not necessarilly true
[12:53] <ferret_0567> Opps...didn't even install Apache again
[12:53] <MonkeyINAbaG> especially in the ubuntu world
[12:53] <m_billybob> Flannel: can yo uelaborate a little ? I havent seen that option with the CD ive downloaded
[12:53] <kyng> el kde de ubunto no me quiere arrancar que puedo aser para suvir
[12:53] <m_billybob> and yes, i did look :)
[12:54] <unop> !es | kyng
[12:54] <ubotu> kyng: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:54] <cafuego_> !es | kyng
[12:54] <ferret_0567> anybody here use audacious?
[12:54] <unop> sycho,  do you see my replies in pm?
[12:54] <Flannel> m_billybob: the Desktop CD only does the Desktop installation.  The Alternate CD has a 'server' option, which installs a GUI-less system designed for normal desktop use.
[12:54] <sycho> unop, no..
[12:54] <saftsack> will 2.6.20 available for 6.10 in the future?
[12:54] <quaal> hmm
[12:54] <m_billybob> Flannel: ah, and thats 6.10 also ?
[12:54] <cafuego_> saftsack: no.
[12:54] <Flannel> m_billybob: there's also a minimal ISO, which is the same installer as the Alternate CD, excepty without the packages.
[12:54] <sycho> unop, are you registered with nick server?
[12:54] <reiki> I borked my Edgy install.... little help understanding what I need to fix... X is borked. Message is kernel module is 1.0-8776, X module is 1.0-9746. I know this is nvidia related but I'm not sure what I need to change to fix it
 like if it's not already running
[12:54] <Flannel> m_billybob: aye, Alternate CD is available for all versions
[12:54] <Flannel> saftsack: no
[12:54] <cafuego_> saftsack: major version updates don't go into stable releases.
[12:55] <m_billybob> hmm i mustve downloaded the 6.06 alternate then .  ..
[12:55] <quaal> i found a poweriso linux version. how do you make a program so that you can just type 'programname' anywhere in the prompt to use it
[12:55] <reiki> oops... one too many lines in the copy... sorry
[12:55] <saftsack> cafuego, an ubuntu version is bound to a kernel?
[12:55] <cafuego_> reiki: rerun the nvidia installer.
[12:55] <m_billybob> Flannel: ok, cool, thanks
[12:55] <saftsack> so only every half year a kernel update is possible?
[12:55] <cypherdelic_> how to list active windows?
[12:55] <saftsack> if i want to use the ubuntu sources?
[12:55] <brosio> how could i align horizzontaly the icon of my gnome desktop ?
[12:55] <unop> sycho, yes, i am .. but anyway -- there are two ways devices are mounted -- one is via /etc/fstab (which mount handles) and there are userspace mounts (handled by pmount) .. that could explain the behaviour you see
[12:55] <cafuego_> saftsack: Nothing stopping you from building your own.
[12:56] <Flannel> saftsack: for minor kernel versions, yeah.  bugfixes/security updates happen throughout the life cycle though
[12:56] <reiki> cafuego_ I reran the one in add/remove ... is that the problem? I should have used the one to install the 9746 driver?
[12:56] <Dregin> hey, could someone recommend me software to rip streaming video from a flash video player?
[12:56] <sycho> unop, so you think when its not listed in fstab pmount is mounting them?
[12:56] <brosio> how could i align horizzontaly the icon of my gnome desktop ?
[12:56] <jowi_realone> quaal, add the directory to the path. if you want it system wide use /etc/environment
[12:56] <ahvargas> hi i want to install mpich in ubuntu any ideas?
[12:56] <saftsack> but isnt there a developement branch like in debian where every new package is shortly available after its release?
[12:56] <cafuego_> reiki: In that case, you need to redo 'nvidia-glx'  as well as the restricted modules.
[12:56] <Flannel> saftsack: no
[12:56] <saftsack> cafuego, thats true but it is more comfortable to use an image :)
[12:56] <unop> sycho,  yes, precisely - i dont think so, i know so :)
[12:56] <quaal> jowi_realone, so putting the program in /etc/environment will make it available anywhere in the terminal..
[12:57] <quaal> just like fdisk or whatever
[12:57] <brosio> how could i align horizzontaly the icon of my gnome desktop ?
[12:57] <cafuego_> saftsack: You cna bake your own image easily enough <heh> 'make-kpkg ' is your friend.
[12:57] <saftsack> whats about updates? is it possible to update from major to major without reinstall the whole system?
[12:57] <reiki> cafuego_ ok... I'll set the xorg.conf for Edgy back to "nv" and go in and try again (I'm in Feisty right now
[12:57] <saftsack> cafuego, i know
[12:57] <jowi_realone> quaal, yes. have a look at /etc/environment and it will become clear.
[12:57] <sycho> unop, but then root and home are listed in nautilus and they arte both mounted through fstab? why them but not my backup hd?
[12:57] <unop> sycho,  thats so that when you plug in devices like cameras, usb-drives etc, you dont have to meddle about with mount at the terminal, etc
[12:57] <quaal> jowi_realone, thanks alt
[12:57] <quaal> alot
[12:57] <Flannel> saftsack: of course.  upgrading ubuntu is supported (although only one release at a time, you shouldn't, for instance go 5.10 to 6.10)
[12:58] <unop> sycho,  there might be exceptions that nautilus reserves for those volumes (i'm guessing)
[12:58] <jowi_realone> quaal, no, not putting the program there. put the path to the program in that file
[12:58] <quaal> jowi_realone, now i see, /environment is a file not a dir
[12:58] <saftsack> Flannel, but if i do it step by step 5.10 to 6.10 would be possible?
[12:58] <SurfnKid> hi guys
[12:58] <unop> sycho,  as they are two very commonly used locations (which always exist) -- it makes sense that they always be listed in palced
[12:58] <sycho> unop, would there be a way to get pmount to mount using ntfs-3g instead of NTFS when it auto detects a drive and sees it using ntfs?
[12:58] <Music_Shuffle> saftsack, yes.
[12:58] <saftsack> ok :)
[12:58] <Flannel> saftsack: yeah, 5.10 to 6.06 to 6.10 is fully doable
[12:58] <quaal> jowi_realone, hmm
[12:58] <SurfnKid> how can i have full write access to a remote pc from gnome thru ssh
[12:58] <shatrat> saftsack, it might be faster to just back up your /home and reinstall though
[12:59] <quaal> jowi_realone, this is the only entry i have PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games"
[12:59] <quaal> LANG="en_US.UTF-8"
[12:59] <ahvargas> please help i want to install mpi in my box any ideas?
[12:59] <saftsack> humm maybe ...
[12:59] <unop> sycho,  afaik .. ntfs-3g uses fuse which is a userspace module -- and yea, ubuntu should automatically mount them for you if you plug them in (provided the devices are usb/firewire, etc)
 what does this error mean when booting ubuntu live cd
 [17179706.232000]  hdd: timeout waiting for DMA
[01:00] <jowi_realone> quaal, normal. at the end of the PATH=".... line add ":/here/is/my/program/located"
[01:00] <sycho> unop, the one is SATA and the other is IDE
[01:00] <quaal> jowi_realone, ok
[01:00] <quaal> thanks again
[01:00] <tom47> are there any known issues with current updates?
[01:00] <mikemacd> anyone?
[01:00] <jowi_realone> quaal, or you can just put the program itself in /usr/local/bin
[01:00] <sycho> unp, they are actual HD. no removable
[01:01] <quaal> jowi_realone, ok..
[01:01] <unop> sycho,  well, i dunno what happens exactly if entries don't exist for them in /etc/fstab .. but why would you not have entries for them in /etc/fstab tho?
[01:01] <SurfnKid> how can i have full write access to a remote pc from gnome thru ssh
[01:01] <sycho> unop, they are actual HD, non removable (in case you missed that)
[01:01] <sycho> unop, because then they don't list themselves in nautilus as actual drives.. :) but if i don't have them listed they do. rember? :)
[01:01] <Sanne> hi
[01:01] <jowi_realone> quaal, (as you can see in the PATH line in /etc/environment, /usr/local/bin is already there so can chose how you want to do it)
  yes
[01:02] <bruenig> !hi | Sanne
[01:02] <ubotu> Sanne: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:02] <CrakeHunter> hello, is version 6.10 less stable than 6.06.1? and
[01:02] <Sanne> bruenig: :)
[01:02] <quaal> jowi_realone, right
[01:02] <bruenig> CrakeHunter, yes
[01:02] <bigcx2> hey all
 what does this error mean when booting ubuntu live cd
 [17179706.232000]  hdd: timeout waiting for DMA
[01:02] <bigcx2> is anyone a pcmcia badas?
[01:02] <unop> sycho,  i'd like to know why you are "against" the whole concept of /etc/fstab :) and they are drives, irrespective of how they are mounted :)
[01:03] <bigcx2> i'm having trouble getting a compactflash reader working under ubuntu
[01:03] <quaal> jowi_realone, where is the best place to put programs that must be installed manually? i've been using /home/username as it seems that is where most of the programs instlaled from repository go
[01:03] <sycho> unop, I'm not against it. In fact both my NTFS drives ARE mounted through fstab as we speak.
[01:03] <bruenig> quaal, none of the programs from repositories go to /home/username
[01:03] <quaal> bruenig, hmm
[01:03] <sycho> unop, Its just when they are nautilus dosn't recognize them as seperate HDs
[01:03] <bigcx2> quaal: if you are installing a program not in ubuntu
[01:03] <ahvargas> anyone knows how to install mpich in ubuntu?
[01:03] <quaal> bruenig, where do they go then? maybe those are just user settings i'm seeing there
[01:03] <bigcx2> it should go in /opt
[01:03] <bruenig> quaal, generally /usr/local is meant for manual things
[01:04] <bruenig> quaal, they are installed in /usr
[01:04] <bruenig> from repos
[01:04] <jowi_realone> quaal, as bruenig none of them installs in your home. myself, I use /opt to install my own programs in.
[01:04] <quaal> ok
[01:04] <quaal> cool thanks
[01:04] <unop> sycho,  continue using them from there then :p and just add bookmarks for each of their mount points in nautilus .. :p
[01:04] <ldiamond> On Edgy, i modified xorg.conf to enable 1680x1050 resolution, however, when i select it, my monitor does not recognize it as 1680x1050 and the text looks wierd
[01:04] <unop> mikemacd,  verify that the drive has DMA enabled from within the BIOS
[01:04] <bigcx2> so does anyone in here have any experience getting pcmcia devices working?
[01:04] <sycho> unop, I'm goning to. I was just wondering if there was a way to to get a more professional look/feel. As if they were listed in Nautilus as drives like normal.
[01:05] <atum1997> good point, roxville
[01:05] <tom47> mikemacd i am not certain but my guess is you need to boot the cd with DMA inactive
[01:05] <CrakeHunter> hello again, my messengers always crash on 6.10 :( - is there an alternative to gaim in ubuntu? (apart from kopete which is for kde orginially)
[01:05] <atum1997> good point
[01:05] <SurfnKid> does anyone know how to get full write access to a remote PC?
[01:05] <SurfnKid> a remote linux box
[01:05] <jrib> SurfnKid: ssh with an account that has full write access
[01:05] <unop> sycho,  if you were being _professional_ .. it shouldnt matter how locations "look" :) but yea, i know what you mean but i dont know if theres a way to get what you want
[01:05] <rbil> sycho: one of the beauties of Linux is that all drives get mounted under the / of the filesystem
[01:05] <SurfnKid> CrakeHunter: aMsn
[01:05] <mikemacd> ok unop
[01:06] <mikemacd> what if i enable it
[01:06] <jrib> SurfnKid: or ssh as your user and then switch to a user with full write access
[01:06] <CrakeHunter> ok ill try that
[01:06] <SurfnKid> jrib: hmmm, let me try that but i think its already the full access one
[01:06] <mikemacd> my drive wont screw up?
[01:06] <sycho> unop, I know this is dumb to say. Nautilus listed them back in edgy when mounted in fstab. But in Feisty nautilus does not. :/
[01:06] <unop> mikemacd,  no,
[01:06] <cherva> i have 2 little problems with skype 1-st somehow skype started showing only the online users and i don't see that as an option in options
[01:06] <unop> !dma | mikemacd
[01:06] <ubotu> mikemacd: dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. It makes hard disks & optical drives transfer data faster, and is almost always enabled in Ubuntu 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[01:06] <SurfnKid> jrib: like i want to write to the /var/www/ folder but it doesnt let me, hang on ill try what u said
[01:06] <mikemacd> what will i be looking for in the bios
[01:06] <mikemacd> if its not called DMA
[01:06] <mikemacd> or will it be
[01:06] <sycho> unop, nautilus use to do it. Not any more I guess. Or not yet. :)
[01:07] <mikemacd> im pretty dense that way lol
[01:07] <CrakeHunter> amsn, only supports msn . i am searching for a icq, aol and irc compatible messenger , apart from gaim and kopete
[01:07] <jrib> SurfnKid: by default only root has access to /var/www I think
[01:07] <tom47> i did an update (kernel etc) now 6.10 wont boot
[01:07] <SurfnKid> this is weird it doesnt let me go thru root
[01:07] <unop> sycho,  or there's soemthign that you need to configure in nautilus -- you could check out settings in the gconf-editor .. just a jab-in-the-dark
[01:07] <jrib> SurfnKid: what do you mean?
[01:07] <mikemacd> unop
[01:07] <mikemacd> in the bios, it will definitely be called DMA?
[01:08] <sycho> unop, thanks anyways. :) (and really it was more of a nit pick thing. But learning to configure things just the right way is fun)
[01:08] <mikemacd> or direct memory access/addressing?
[01:08] <ldiamond> On Edgy, i modified xorg.conf to enable 1680x1050 resolution, however, when i select it, my monitor does not recognize it as 1680x1050 and the text looks wierd
[01:08] <sycho> unop, great idea. I'll check. anyways I'll catch ya later. thanks again
[01:08] <ahvargas> any ideas mpich??
[01:08] <SurfnKid> well I did a connect to.. selected SSH and put the ip of the box, then below i put username, and i put root
[01:08] <ahvargas> or mpi
[01:08] <czambran81> Does anybody know what I can use to remotely access an Ubuntu computer, something like the Remote Desktop connection functionality of Windows?
[01:08] <CrakeHunter> if i want to use LVM, do i have to set up my 2 discs as raid arrays (fakeraid) in bios, or is it fine just to leave them as two seperated discs?
[01:08] <SurfnKid> i put the password
[01:08] <SurfnKid> but didnt accept it
[01:08] <jrib> SurfnKid: it's usually a bad idea to let root ssh into a box
[01:08] <SurfnKid> ah
[01:08] <jrib> (so it's probably not allowed)
[01:08] <m_billybob> czambran81: remote X session ?
[01:08] <jrib> SurfnKid: is this an ubuntu box?
[01:08] <czambran81> m_billybob: yes
[01:09] <SurfnKid> yeah, here's the reason why
[01:09] <unop> mikemacd,  it's usually called DMA, yes
[01:09] <SurfnKid> i hate to move files to /tmp then i have to log into the remote box and move them to /var/www
[01:09] <m_billybob> czambran81: windows to linux ?
[01:09] <unop> mikemacd,  i cant think of anything else it would be named
[01:09] <czambran81> m_billybob: linux to linux
[01:09] <tom47> are there any known issues with the latest kernel updates?
[01:09] <jrib> SurfnKid: I don't understand
[01:09] <czambran81> m_billybob: VNC won't do, because I need to be logged in on the remote computer in order to use it
[01:09] <jowi_realone> SurfnKid, just log in normally into it via ssh. then use sudo if your user is in the admin group
[01:09] <SurfnKid> ok
[01:09] <m_billybob> czambran81: google "remote X sessions howto
[01:10] <SurfnKid> but im using nautilus to view the files
[01:10] <whadar> what do i have to install if i want to mount squashfs and i have dapper?
[01:10] <m_billybob> czambran81: X doesnt tha tnativley i think
[01:10] <jrib> SurfnKid: but I don't think I need to.  Just set up proper permissions on /var/www so you don't need to sudo
[01:10] <whonicca> how do u find out who's the maker of an ubuntu package
[01:10] <SurfnKid> jrib: oh ok, gotcha
[01:10] <jrib> whonicca: apt-cache showsrc PACKAGE  maybe
[01:10] <bruenig> whonicca, apt-cache show package | grep Maintainer
[01:10] <czambran81> m_billybob: I would think other people would like to do the same thing
[01:10] <unop> SurfnKid,  yea, if you make your user a member of www-data (i think thats the group name) .. your user should have the right access to /var/www
[01:10] <SurfnKid> i guess its like xp, you dont have full access anyway even with read/write priv
[01:11] <m_billybob> czambran81: i dont know how, i just know that it is possible
[01:11] <czambran81> m_billybob:  thanks
[01:11] <SurfnKid> unop: so do i create the username im currently on, on the remote p?
[01:11] <SurfnKid> c
[01:11] <whonicca> ricardo  markiewicz where are u@@
[01:11] <czambran81> I just the search you suggested and a few results came up
[01:11] <czambran81> I will look into it
[01:11] <czambran81> m_billybob: thanks a lot
[01:11] <m_billybob> czambran81: ive a friend on another server that knows how . . .
[01:11] <unop> SurfnKid,  no, just add your current username (e.g. surfnkid) to the www-data group
[01:11] <m_billybob> perhaps you could hok up with him
[01:12] <unop> !usermod | SurfnKid
[01:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usermod - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:12] <whonicca> has anyone installed xchat-xsys and realized it doesnt have xmms support
[01:12] <whonicca> =\
[01:12] <SurfnKid> unop: but its a remote box does tha tmatter?
[01:12] <czambran81> m_billybob:  sure
[01:12] <czambran81> m_billybob:  which server?
[01:12] <m_billybob> afternet #linux
[01:12] <jowi_realone> SurfnKid, "adduser yourusername www-data" should do the trick
[01:12] <SurfnKid> unop: the remote box doesnt have my username
[01:12] <unop> SurfnKid,  ok, in that case -- add the user name you log into ssh with on the remote box to the www-data group (on the remote box) :)
[01:12] <jrib> www-data shouldn't own web content
[01:12] <jrib> or at least shouldn't have write access to
[01:12] <SurfnKid> unop: ah ok that makes more sense
[01:13] <czambran81> m_billybob: and the name of your friend?
[01:13] <m_billybob> czambran81: irc.afternet.org #linux, ask for Rubin, and be patient ;)
[01:13] <SurfnKid> this is sort of like Win 2k user administration
[01:13] <unop> jrib,  errm, but i think the home directory of www-data is /var/www anyway -- and it should have complete access there
[01:13] <bruenig> weird
[01:13] <flamesrock> hey, how do I get `xrandr -s 0` to run while kde is loading?
[01:13] <elpargo> hi could someone tell me which is the default key combination for gcalculator?
[01:13] <SurfnKid> unop: i would love complete access to that remotely
[01:13] <czambran81> m_billybob:  I am login right now
[01:14] <unop> SurfnKid,  the www-data group has read/write access in that folder - if your user is a member of that group, you get those priveleges too
[01:14] <ldiamond> Can any1 help me fix my resolution in ubuntu Edgy?
[01:14] <bruenig> !fixres | ldiamond
[01:14] <ubotu> ldiamond: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:15] <ldiamond> I checked that alredy
[01:15] <ldiamond> already*
[01:15] <ldiamond> does not work
[01:15] <unop> SurfnKid,  this is pretty much like windows user administration (infact micrsoft copied and enhanced the unix permissions model)
[01:15] <Skuller> hey guys....i just started using 6.06 a while back....and i need a LOT of help....
[01:15] <rogueChsbrgr> ldiamond: ubotu is a bot
[01:15] <SurfnKid> unop: done, added, now to try... :)
[01:15] <jrib> unop: really only files that *need* to be written to by apache should be the ones that apache has write access.  That's my understanding anyway
[01:15] <SurfnKid> unop: hah i didnt know that
[01:15] <bruenig> Skuller, pick something and ask
[01:15] <ldiamond> yes but bruenig is not i guess
[01:15] <corevette> can someone help me with mysql/php/apache????
[01:15] <flamesrock> whats a good audio converter for ubuntu?
[01:15] <Skuller> firstly.....can sum1 recomment me a good music player
[01:16] <jrib> Skuller: amarok
[01:16] <Xenguy> flamesrock: from/to ?
[01:16] <flamesrock> everything to mp3 ideally
[01:16] <jrib> !lamp | corevette
[01:16] <ubotu> corevette: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[01:16] <flamesrock> or ogg
[01:16] <bruenig> !media players
[01:16] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[01:16] <jowi_realone> Skuller, quodlibet
[01:16] <Skuller> umm....one wich can play mp3's too
[01:16] <Skuller> i have rythm installed but it doesnt play
[01:16] <unop> jrib,  but apache handles permissions within itself using directory/location/path directives and whatnot -- yea, i know what you mean but its just the way things are
[01:16] <flamesrock> well not to play necessarily, but to convert
[01:16] <bruenig> Skuller, you need codecs to play mp3, has nothing to do with the media player
[01:16] <flamesrock> like ffmpeg for noobs
[01:17] <Skuller> ohh.....where do i get codecs for rythm?
[01:17] <bruenig> !mp3 | Skuller this site will tell you how to get pretty much any codecs you need
[01:17] <ubotu> Skuller this site will tell you how to get pretty much any codecs you need: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:17] <SurfnKid> unop: ok nothing, but here's what i did
[01:18] <jowi_realone> Skuller, rhythmbox uses gstreamer. search synaptic for gstreamer and you will find tons of codecs.
[01:18] <SurfnKid> unop: added the user on the remote box to the www-blah group
[01:18] <Skuller> hmm..ok...i'll do that...thnx
[01:18] <unop> SurfnKid,  sorry for being pedantic -- but its www-data not www-blah :)
[01:18] <SurfnKid> unop: came back to my laptop and selected  Connect to Server...  SSH, set the IP, and then the username
[01:18] <SurfnKid> unop: lol i mean that yeah
[01:19] <SurfnKid> and then I reauthenticated the session
[01:19] <SurfnKid> unmounted/mounted
[01:19] <Gangstaz> so yeah
[01:19] <unop> SurfnKid,  errm, did you check that your user is indeed in that group now?  use  id or groups to verify
[01:19] <Gangstaz> what makes Ubunturd superior to other distros
[01:19] <MonkeyINAbaG> heh
[01:19] <SurfnKid> I entered the password, took it, opened the folders but still doesnt write
[01:20] <SurfnKid> unop: i went to user/groups in the menu
[01:20] <whonicca> anyone else figure out how to log into samba shares
[01:20] <jrib> SurfnKid: ls -ld /var/www   on the remote box
[01:20] <whonicca> i put in my xp password and it says unable to authenticate
[01:20] <SurfnKid> then went to groups, and I looked for www-data and added sx270 as the user
[01:20] <SurfnKid> jrib: ok let me see
[01:20] <MonkeyINAbaG> Gangstaz) whats ubuntu competing with? windows? fedora? opensuse? freespire? of course its superior :)
[01:21] <Gangstaz> Well
[01:21] <smaake> mount -t smbfs //server/share /mountpoint -o username=dsn,password=password
[01:21] <SurfnKid> drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 2007-01-31 04:48 /var/www
[01:21] <Gangstaz> when i boot it
[01:21] <jowi_realone> www-data group does not have write access normally. but the www-data (owner) does
[01:21] <Gangstaz> it doesn't work
[01:21] <Gangstaz> of course
[01:21] <Gangstaz> i have a blu-ray burner
[01:21] <CrakeHunter> which graphic card drivers should i use with a nvidia 7600 gs?
[01:21] <spasticteapot> Does anyone know how to open a "JNLP" file?
[01:21] <jowi_realone> 'nite all
[01:21] <unop> SurfnKid,  yep, the www-data group only has rx permissions .. as you can see there
[01:21] <MonkeyINAbaG> Gangstaz) so you are trying to boot off your blu-ray drive?
[01:21] <SurfnKid> unop: maybe i have to set the rw permissions on-that-folder
[01:22] <SurfnKid> jrib: what do u think
[01:22] <spasticteapot> I think JNLP is something to do with Java Webstart - I'm not sure.
[01:22] <jrib> SurfnKid: as you can see www-data doesn't own that.  I'd recommend creating a new group.  But either way you need to change the group
[01:22] <Gangstaz> Yes
[01:22] <Sanne> CrakeHunter: I have a 7600 GT and use the drivers from the repositories
[01:22] <SurfnKid> ok
[01:22] <unop> SurfnKid,  no, its likely that those are the default permissions
[01:22] <whonicca> smaake, im trying to log in via nautilus
[01:22] <MonkeyINAbaG> Gangstaz) can you boot other cds/dvds off that drive?
[01:22] <CrakeHunter> i.e. the ones in synaptic?
[01:22] <MonkeyINAbaG> have you tried?
[01:22] <dynamicreflux> does any one have any idea why i fresh install of herd 3 would get stuck for 1.5 minutes at about 50% on the load screen, then finally go to the login page?
[01:22] <Gangstaz> Yes i can
[01:22] <Gangstaz> oops
[01:22] <Gangstaz> i forgot to flip it
[01:23] <MonkeyINAbaG> :)
[01:23] <corevette> how do you restart apache?
[01:23] <SurfnKid> unop: if i change the folder permission to full access, will that enable it?
[01:23] <Sanne> CrakeHunter: here's help on what to do (if you get stuck, just ask): https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:23] <CrakeHunter> okay thanks
[01:23] <spasticteapot> Oops...
[01:23] <ransid> question
[01:23] <spasticteapot> Regardless, does anyone know what JNLP files are?
[01:23] <someothernick> !jnlp
[01:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jnlp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:24] <someothernick> :/
[01:24] <livingdaylight__> unop, hi ^^
[01:24] <unop> SurfnKid,  errm, all i think you need to do is change the ownership of the folder -- sudo sh -c "chown www-data.www-data /var/www; chmod 774 /var/www/"
[01:24] <jvai> hey ppl.. came to learn
[01:24] <ransid> im on a laptop and the touchpad is bugging me, is there an easy way to toggle or disable mice / touchpads
[01:24] <unop> livingdaylight__,  hey :) did you fix the issues with your router?
[01:24] <dynamicreflux> does any one have any idea why i fresh install of herd 3 would get stuck for 1.5 minutes at about 50% on the load screen, then finally go to the login page?
[01:24] <SurfnKid> unop: wow, you know this stuff well.. ok let me check something brb
[01:24] <livingdaylight__> unop, i'm not aware why there should have been issues
[01:24] <livingdaylight__> unop, but it is fine now
[01:25] <FakeOutdoorsman> Anyone know where libmilter is usually installed to?
[01:25] <unop> livingdaylight__,  well, i saw you get kicked out yesterday as a precautionary measure by the ops here on that issue
[01:25] <jrib> unop: needs to be recursive right?
[01:25] <livingdaylight__> unop, i followed the instructions given on the page given to me and chagned port but it still didn't work, so i gave up.
[01:25] <cloogon> What is ubuntu?
[01:25] <jrib> !ubuntu | cloogon
[01:25] <ubotu> cloogon: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[01:26] <unop> jrib,  well, recursive would upset everything in the folder -- if he just wants write access to /var/www .. it doesnt need to be
[01:26] <nicolah> How do I insert a space in a name file ? (in the shell)
[01:26] <livingdaylight__> unop, that's right and today again. What i didn't realize was after changing port i still had to go into separate quarantine rooms and pass tests, which iv'e done now. They got the sniffer dogs out and everything. I told them i was innocent!
[01:26] <nicolah> something like listen this.mp3
[01:26] <FakeOutdoorsman> nicolah: blah/ blah
[01:26] <leonardo> hi there
[01:26] <nicolah> thanks
[01:26] <ransid> jrib: Do you know how to "easily" disable mice / touchpads ?
[01:26] <unop> jrib,  but yea, i think he should be made aware of the implications of these permissions here
[01:26] <cloogon> yes,I see
[01:26] <ransid> i mean, obviously to disable a USB mouse, you unplug it...
[01:26] <unop> livingdaylight__,  :))
[01:26] <ransid> but what about the touchpad?
[01:26] <jrib> ransid: use "synclient" to disable touchpads
[01:27] <__mikem> lol ransid you beat me to it
[01:27] <leonardo> does any one know how to configure latex accents in ubuntu?
[01:27] <ransid> ;)
[01:27] <ransid> had to cover my bases
[01:27] <unop> livingdaylight__,  so did you manage to import that partition in then?
[01:27] <ransid> jrib; thanks
[01:27] <jrib> !permissions | SurfnKid
[01:27] <ubotu> SurfnKid: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[01:27] <livingdaylight__> unop, well, no, we had just had the /media/multimedia breakthrough when we got disconnected
[01:27] <jrib> easiest solution
[01:27] <unop> SurfnKid,  you should know that the other directories and files within /var/www/* will still retain the old permissions -- jsut to make you aware
[01:28] <SurfnKid> jrib: thanks man
[01:28] <livingdaylight__> unop, i wasn't sure what was next so i took a break. So, where were we? ^^
[01:28] <SurfnKid> unop: oh right, kind of like parent/child perm
[01:28] <unop> livingdaylight__,  we were trying to mount that partition last
[01:28] <SurfnKid> ok cool
[01:28] <unop> SurfnKid,  exactly :)
[01:28] <__mikem> Heres a little riddle for you. How can you instantly stop a hacker from hacking your system?
[01:28] <FakeOutdoorsman> anyone know how to disable the "touch the touchpad twice to click" feature?
[01:28] <livingdaylight__> unop, i've been downloading,burning and making nice labels with glabels
[01:28] <SurfnKid> :)
[01:28] <bruenig> __mikem, strong magnets
[01:28] <SurfnKid> ok brb let me try this
[01:29] <jahid> hi, how can i install "libssl0.9.6" and "xlibs"?
[01:29] <spasticteapot> __mikem: Disconnect your ethernet cable?
[01:29] <unop> SurfnKid,  it shoudlnt cause any problems for the time being -- but just be aware incase you do have problems
[01:29] <yellow> __mikem,  yank the ethernet cord out
[01:29] <livingdaylight__> unop, but my printer thinks brown is black or prints it like that anyways. So, you can imagine what a cd lable of a desert looks like
[01:29] <cloogon> which is better windows and ubuntu?
[01:29] <__mikem> or turn it off
[01:29] <spasticteapot> __mikem: The other solution involves either an oxy-acetylene torch, or, my favorite, a pickaxe.
[01:29] <unop> livingdaylight__,  :))
[01:29] <whadar> kernel support squashfs mounts by default in dapper?
[01:29] <livingdaylight__> unop, well, we had just mounted that hadn'w we?
[01:29] <jvai> _miken.. use squid proxy cache, drop packets, & use snrt.. & keep an eye on the /var/logz lmao
[01:29] <unop> livingdaylight__,  sounds like you need to tweak about in /etc/printcap (i think)
[01:29] <yellow> spasticteapot, hehe
[01:30] <__mikem> cloogon, which is better a mustang or a model T
[01:30] <ransid> jrib; i got this error when using synclient:   Can't access shared memory area. SHMConfig disabled?
[01:30] <spasticteapot> __mikem: Depends on how much you've hotrodded either.
[01:30] <ransid> :S
[01:30] <unop> livingdaylight__,  errm, yea i think we tried that -- but i dunno if the mount was successful -- can you !pastebin the output of mount now
[01:30] <unop> ?
[01:30] <SurfnKid> unop: well yeah i do need child access i have 2 folders which are specifically the ones i need access to
[01:30] <jondowd> Hello - could you recommend a $10 dial-up provider?
[01:30] <spasticteapot> __mikem: The model T has a better cornering radius, better mileage, and legendary reliability.
[01:30] <livingdaylight__> unop, don't... that's for another day. I cant tweak no more :p
[01:30] <__mikem> spasticteapot, to see the sarcasm in what I just said, see cloogon's last statement
[01:30] <spasticteapot> jondowd: Look into getting Wifi from a local cafe' if possible.
[01:31] <unop> SurfnKid,  sudo sh -c "chown -R www-data.www-data /var/www; chmod -R 774 /var/www/"
[01:31] <jondowd> nope - out in the sticks, dial up
[01:31] <nicolah> FakeOutdoorsman,
[01:31] <nicolah> nicola@nicola:~/DCIM/100NIKON$ jhead -n%Y%m%d/ %H%M%S *.jpg
[01:31] <nicolah> Skipping readonly file '%H%M%S'
[01:31] <nicolah> Error: Couldn't rename '2007_01_002\20070102-221801.jpg' to '2007_01_002\20070102/.jpg'
[01:31] <spasticteapot> __mikem: Sue me, I'm contrary.
[01:31] <jvai> model t for the ladies, & the mustang to jealous the guys
[01:31] <nicolah> looks like the blah/ blah
[01:31] <nicolah> does not work
[01:31] <spasticteapot> jvai: I'd rather have a model T- 50% better mileage.
[01:31] <livingdaylight__> unop, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4966/ mount output
[01:31] <SurfnKid> unop: ok let me try that
[01:32] <spasticteapot> Also, you can turn them around in a pretty small parking lot.
[01:32] <jrib> ransid: take a look at "man synclient", also see http://www.fourmilab.ch/fourmilog/archives/2006-02/000651.html for a more verbose explanation of what you need in your xorg.conf.  Personally, I just turn the useless thing off in my bios
[01:32] <ransid> jrib, are you still around?
[01:32] <ransid> oh sorry
[01:32] <jvai> word @ spasticteapot
[01:32] <spasticteapot> And it's very unlikely to be stolen - hotwiring a Model T is almost impossible unless you're familiar with 'em.
[01:32] <jahid> can anyone tell me, how can i install "libssl0.9.6" and "xlibs"?
[01:32] <spasticteapot> I have a near-unmatched knowledge of totally stupid and useless information.
[01:32] <ransid> thanks, i was planning on just turning the listening time to like 10 seconds
[01:32] <cloogon> I want to learn java, is ubuntu a better choose?
[01:32] <spasticteapot> This explains why I always did brilliantly in American History class parts III through XI.
[01:33] <ransid> so essentially it would be almost disabled
[01:33] <unop> livingdaylight__,  looking good -- try this -- sudo sh -c "touch /media/multimedia/test; ls -l /media/multimedia/"
[01:33] <FakeOutdoorsman> nicolah: mv originalname new\ name\ with\ spaces
[01:33] <thrope> hi - I have a couple of quick questions: 1. how do I choose an SMP kernel (i have ht proc) 2. I use the deskbar alot, but it doesn't seem to pick up the path correctly (lot of programs not recognised)
[01:33] <SurfnKid> unop: hmm now my permissions are denied
[01:33] <livingdaylight__> unop, is that one thing?
[01:33] <livingdaylight__> unop, or does the semicolon separate
[01:33] <brent> is this where i get help from someone knowing ubuntu better than myself?
[01:34] <SurfnKid> unop: after running sudo sh -c "chown -R www-data.www-data /var/www;  chmod -R 774 /var/www/"
[01:34] <livingdaylight__> unop, cos the question marks suggest to me its one
[01:34] <rbil> when I use gedit to write to a file on a FAT32 drive, I get an error that it cannot write a backup file. Is this a limitation of the file system or something I need to do in fstab?
[01:34] <SurfnKid> drwxrwxr-- 5 www-data www-data 4096 2007-01-31 04:48 /var/www
[01:34] <yellow> ask | brent
[01:35] <yellow> wait, where's the bot ?
[01:35] <yellow> lol
[01:35] <zynergi> by default, a usb flash drive when inserted in ubuntu should mount the drive automatically, right?
[01:35] <erisco> totem is playing video as audio... has anyone else heard of this?
[01:35] <witless> is it possible to play avi files in a regular dvd player?
[01:35] <unop> livingdaylight__,  its all one command
[01:35] <livingdaylight__> unop, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4968/
[01:35] <unop> SurfnKid,  permissions denied on what?
[01:35] <jvai> erisco. yep all the tyme just point an audio file to totem
[01:35] <shoumik> Is there a way to delete firefox from opt
[01:35] <SurfnKid> unop: to enter/view the folder
[01:36] <SurfnKid> permission denied
[01:36] <brent> i have a viewsonic pf790 monitor and a geforce 6600 gt- on live cd no cursor and installed just lines on screen i have tried all the x  config stuff in wiki and to no avail. thanks in advanced
[01:36] <unop> livingdaylight__,  congratulations you now have successfully imported the partition :) all you need to do now, is copy your movies/music etc across and place shortcuts behind :)
[01:36] <jahid> how can i install yahoo messenger?
[01:36] <erisco> jvai, but this file is video and audio, and I am only getting the audio. Totem plays the little windows media player animation for it as well
[01:36] <SurfnKid> jahid: use gaim :)
[01:36] <bruenig> shoumik, sudo rm -rf /opt/firefox
[01:36] <shoumik> kk
[01:36] <bruenig> shoumik, how did you install that firefox because there might be more to do if you did it from a script
[01:36] <unop> SurfnKid,  ok, can you pastebin this -- sudo ls -ld /var/www
[01:36] <jahid> SurfnKid, no, i want to use yahoo messenger
[01:36] <zynergi> by default, a usb flash drive when inserted in ubuntu should mount the drive automatically, right?
[01:37] <shoumik> i have 1.5 in my system
[01:37] <livingdaylight__> unop, :p
[01:37] <rbil> when I use gedit to write to a file on a FAT32 drive, I get an error that it cannot write a backup file. Is this a limitation of the file system or something I need to do in fstab? Even is sudo'd it can't create a backup.
[01:37] <jvai> ooo, maybe the file is bad? i had troubles w/ "pirates of the caribean.. wont play on dapper
[01:37] <shoumik> then i downloaded a script and run a few commands so that firefox upgraded
[01:37] <bruenig> shoumik, right, but did you symlink /usr/bin/firefox to the /opt version, because then you will need to link it back to ubuntu versions
[01:37] <SurfnKid> unop: drwxrwxr-- 5 www-data www-data 4096 2007-01-31 04:48 /var/www
[01:37] <soundray> zynergi: yes
[01:37] <shoumik> don't think so
[01:38] <Sulo_Seppa> Hey guys. I am a SUSE user, but right now I have my wife's laptop, and she is using windows but wants to 'use what I use.' I don't really think suse would be that great for a laptop as it's quite bloated, so I am wondering if ubuntu is good for laptops. There are a few things she needs to do with it as well:
[01:38] <unop> SurfnKid,  ok, this too --  whoami; id;
[01:38] <bruenig> shoumik, ok well if you have any other problems...
[01:38] <erisco> jvai, they are wmv... apparently windows can play them alright
[01:38] <SurfnKid> k
[01:38] <zynergi> well, this is odd
[01:38] <erisco> !players
[01:38] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[01:38] <zynergi> windows freezes when i insert a usbkey..
[01:38] <zynergi> linux does nothing when i insert it
[01:38] <zynergi> doesnt show the device in computer
[01:38] <shoumik> ty man
[01:38] <erisco> !codecs
[01:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:38] <ldiamond> Can any1 help me fix my resolution problem on Edgy?
[01:38] <jvai> erisco.. i dunno i play .wmv vids ok in totem.. u got all the codecs?
[01:39] <Sulo_Seppa> Easy wireless internet access, media players (we watch dvds on it all the time), open office, zsnes :), and possibly 3d support
[01:39] <soundray> zynergi: install dosfsutils and run dosfsck on it?
[01:39] <SurfnKid> unop: http://www.pastebin.ca/348225
[01:39] <erisco> jvai, well tell me one I need.. and I'll see
[01:39] <Sulo_Seppa> So, is ubuntu good for those kinds of things?
[01:39] <unop> zynergi,  are you sure the usb drive's contents dont appear in /media/USBDRIVE
[01:39] <bruenig> Sulo_Seppa, wireless is hit or miss. If it works, it is great. If it doesn't, you are screwed
[01:39] <FakeOutdoorsman> rbil: fat32 doesn't support all the file permissions that linux filesystems need
[01:39] <jvai> !wmv codecs
[01:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wmv codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:40] <LjL> !codecs
[01:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:40] <LjL> !w32codecs
[01:40] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[01:40] <ransid> hey
[01:40] <jvai> there u go! @erisco
[01:40] <bruenig> Sulo_Seppa, media players are fine. Vlc will play dvds that is what I use and that is in the repos
[01:40] <Sulo_Seppa> bruenig: Ah that is sad. Is it easier than in SUSE? I haven't still qutie figured it out
[01:40] <ransid> what is the command to edit plain text...erm, you know what i mean?
[01:40] <jvai> ty ljl
[01:40] <Sulo_Seppa> bruenig: Great! I use that media player all the time.
[01:40] <livingdaylight__> unop, do you wanna show me the last bit?
[01:40] <baktaah> Anyone here with an atheros card would like to share his kismet.conf with me?
[01:40] <unop> livingdaylight__,  let me know the names of the directories housing your music and videos
[01:41] <bruenig> Sulo_Seppa, it is not hard per se. Just some wireless cards and such aren't supported, but those same cards wouldnt be supported by suse. If you have a card that is supported, then it will be fine.
[01:41] <rbil> FakeOutdoorsman: so this not a prob but rather just a limitation?
[01:41] <spasticteapot> How much of a bounty would I need to offer to have someone fix the makefile (or make a .deb) for QTspeakerdesigner?
[01:41] <spasticteapot> http://katix.org/speakerdesigner/
[01:41] <livingdaylight__> unop, /home/conrad/music
[01:41] <unop> SurfnKid,  if you look at the output of id -- www-data is not among them .. which explains why you cant list that directory
[01:41] <soundray> Sulo_Seppa: I don't know exactly how bloated Suse is, but Ubuntu is certainly not lean
[01:41] <spasticteapot> Sulo_Seppa: Try Xubuntu for a lighter Linux experience.
[01:41] <Sulo_Seppa> bruenig: So, would you reccomend Ubuntu for her laptop or anyother distro? I haven't used ubuntu since 5.06 (great version)
[01:41] <spasticteapot> Runs poifect on my slower machine.
[01:42] <SurfnKid> unop: :/ so then do i add www-data to another group?
[01:42] <spasticteapot> Sulo_Seppa: I'm running it on a 1ghz Pentium-M thinkpad X40.
[01:42] <spasticteapot> It runs farking AWESOME.
[01:42] <Sulo_Seppa> Well, her windows installation is quite slow :)
[01:42] <Sulo_Seppa> So anything faster than that would be good
[01:42] <baktaah> I strongly suggest Xubuntu for laptops
[01:42] <ransid> ugh
[01:42] <soundray> Sulo_Seppa: except there never was a 5.06 ;)
[01:42] <spasticteapot> Sulo_Seppa: I agree.
[01:42] <SurfnKid> Ubuntu for me
[01:42] <Sulo_Seppa> But isn't xubuntu ugly?
[01:42] <SurfnKid> Kubuntu for my old Sony Vaio
[01:42] <ransid> ugh
[01:42] <bruenig> Sulo_Seppa, xubuntu will go really quickly
[01:42] <spasticteapot> Just add a "battery monitor" on the taskbar, and you're done.
[01:42] <spasticteapot> Sulo_Seppa: check out xfce-look.org
[01:43] <baktaah> Sulo_Seppa,  please dont be so quick to judge
[01:43] <bruenig> Sulo_Seppa, I am using xubuntu, let me find a screenshot
[01:43] <spasticteapot> I have FancyCandy installed; the rendering engine it uses (Murrine) seems to be even faster.
[01:43] <baktaah> I feel that Xubuntu is the easiest dist ont the eyes
[01:43] <unop> livingdaylight__,  sudo sh -c "mkdir /media/multimedia/music; chown -R $USER.$USER /media/multimedia/music"; cp -Rvi ~/music /media/multimedia/music
[01:43] <baktaah> And you can make it go with XGL for the eye candy
[01:43] <baktaah> google XGL :)
[01:43] <spasticteapot> baktaah: I'm inclined to agree.
[01:43] <baktaah> or use youtube
[01:43] <wulfen> I'm having some problems installing ubuntu on my computer. After install&reboot grub fails with error 17. On closer inspection it seems like ubuntu lists the disks (sda,sdb etc) in the wrong order compared to the ports on the motherboard. Anyone able to give me some pointers on how to troubleshoot?
[01:43] <baktaah> spasticteapot,  I just installed it btw :) and im in Love
[01:43] <Sulo_Seppa> I use KDE and it is very easy to configure which is why I was thinking Kubuntu
[01:43] <jollyroger> Hey can someone help me set up a wireless network using a linksys WUSB54G ver. 4?
[01:43] <witless> is it possible in ubuntu to create a VCD from an .avi file?
[01:43] <jollyroger> I'm running Edgy.
[01:43] <baktaah> jollyroger,
[01:44] <bruenig> Sulo_Seppa, granted this is very basic, you can make it much better, but it isn't ugly. http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m290/bruenig/12182006.png
[01:44] <baktaah> download wireless manager
[01:44] <baktaah> or
[01:44] <spasticteapot> Xubuntu works so well, it's scary - fast too.
[01:44] <baktaah> type
[01:44] <baktaah> iwconfig
[01:44] <unop> livingdaylight__,  i am copying for the time being to make sure that the contents are replicated over first -- once this is done- verify all your music is copied over to the new location -- i'll give you the next set then
[01:44] <baktaah> iwconfig dhcdpcd
[01:44] <Moosejaw> is feisty fawn stable?
[01:44] <bruenig> Moosejaw, no
[01:44] <cafuego_> Moosejaw: no, it's alpha
[01:44] <FakeOutdoorsman> witless: yeas, I think...with ffmpeg
[01:44] <Moosejaw> k thanks
[01:44] <jollyroger> Ok I'll go try that thanks baktaah.
[01:45] <jrib> Moosejaw: it's planned to be released on 7.04 (2007 April)
[01:45] <witless> FakeOutdoorsman: thanks, i will look
[01:45] <baktaah> jollyroger,  np however I should tell that I just started with the whole Linux thing, just installed Xubuntu
[01:45] <Moosejaw> cool...
[01:45] <livingdaylight__> unop, that was one hell of a command. Its working and they're copying over
[01:45] <unop> SurfnKid,  run this command on the remote machine - sudo usermod -G www-data $USER
[01:45] <cafuego_> witless: ffmpeg -i foo.avi -target vcd-pal (or vcd-ntsc) foo.mpg
[01:45] <baktaah> anyone here with kismet and atheros card?
[01:45] <kingbob> what is the location of the c headers
[01:45] <kingbob> ?
[01:46] <Sulo_Seppa> bruenig: that looks very nice, I will consider it! But with the wireless, is there a lot of configuration and stuff that I would need to do? Really have little time considering my work hired some moron with no certifications, and who keeps changing shit because he thought it wasn't working
[01:46] <witless> cafuego - thanks - is that possible with more than one avi, if they fit?
[01:46] <unop> livingdaylight__,  cool :) once they are done copying, verify the contents by navigating to /media/multimedia/music
[01:46] <ldiamond> Can any1 tell me how to share settings between Thunderbird in Windows and in Ubuntu?
[01:46] <spasticteapot> Sulo_Seppa: What kind of card do you have?
[01:46] <spasticteapot> Sulo_Seppa: Intel and some other vendors' cards work off the bat.
[01:46] <cafuego_> witless: only if you do an SVCD, VCDs don't have a menu option afaik.
[01:46] <Sanne> kingbob: somewhere in /usr/include, I think
[01:46] <Sulo_Seppa> spasticteapot: Uhh, not sure. she has the laptop now, but I know it's a dell from late 2005
[01:46] <FakeOutdoorsman> witless: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Create_a_VCD_or_SVCD
[01:46] <brent> will someone tell me how to edit line on installed ubuntu the screen resolution so i can get my mouse cursor to work and I will leave ... please
[01:46] <Moosejaw> can aixgl be used with ati cards?
[01:46] <cafuego_> kingbob: /usr/include of course.
[01:47] <spasticteapot> Sulo_Seppa: NDISwrapper works pretty well, too - in a few minutes, you can have it working.
[01:47] <bruenig> Sulo_Seppa, it isn't really that you have a lot of configuration. If it works, it should work well without much configuration. If it doesn't, it doesn't. There is some exception for those that kind of work through ndiswrapper which are a pain to setup.
[01:47] <SurfnKid> unop: i did, returned nothing
[01:47] <spasticteapot> Sulo_Seppa: Oh lordy, do I hate dell.
[01:47] <cafuego_> kingbob: if you dpn't have them, you need 'build-essential'.
[01:47] <baktaah> Sulo_Seppa,
[01:47] <SurfnKid> unop: tried to view the /var/www folder, nothing
[01:47] <jollyroger> Ok what do I do after running that command?
[01:47] <baktaah> Listen to me.
[01:47] <spasticteapot> Sulo_Seppa: Odds are you have a Broadcom, so you'll need NDISwrapper.
[01:47] <baktaah> YOU NEED A PRIEST
[01:47] <kingbob> thank you cafuego_ & sanne
[01:47] <unop> SurfnKid,  that indicates successs -- verify group membership with id
[01:47] <baktaah> the dell... make sure it is surrounded with garlic and cruxifixes :) kidding, use Xubuntu man :)
[01:47] <SurfnKid> unop: gotcha
[01:47] <SurfnKid> brb
[01:48] <spasticteapot> Sulo_Seppa: You may have one of the nicer models with Intel "centrino" setups...hence, intel wireless cards.
[01:48] <spasticteapot> These should work without configuration.
[01:48] <bayziders> Are there any ways to increase torrent speed besides port forwarding?
[01:48] <spasticteapot> With the Broadcoms, it's a crapshoot.
[01:48] <bruenig> bayziders, get on torrents with more seeds
[01:48] <jollyroger> baktaah, Ok what do I do after running that command?
[01:48] <soundray> kingbob: if you can't find them, it could be because they aren't installed by default. Get the build-essential package.
[01:48] <Sanne> kingbob: you're welcome :)
[01:48] <unop> bayziders,  choose better seeds
[01:48] <cafuego_> unop: sudo rsync -oprv ~/music /media/multimedia
[01:48] <Sulo_Seppa> spasticteapot: So, would I just do that apt-get NDISwrapper, and everything is good?
[01:48] <baktaah> jollyroger, did you write iwconfig?
[01:48] <cafuego_> unop: (as a fast alternative)
[01:48] <jollyroger> Yes.
[01:48] <bayziders> unop, what's a seed?
[01:48] <shatrat> bayziders, increase your upload speed if you have it limited.  The more people you upload to the more people will upload to you in return
[01:48] <baktaah> so, what output?
[01:48] <unop> cafuego_,  same thing effectively :)
[01:48] <spasticteapot> Sulo_Seppa: I hate to do this, but check out the Ubuntu Wiki.
[01:48] <Sulo_Seppa> baktaah: How much lighter is XUbuntu?
[01:48] <jollyroger> Give me a second I'll copy it.
[01:49] <baktaah> Sulo_Seppa,  ALOT
[01:49] <FakeOutdoorsman> bayziders: you could use a client that supports DHT
[01:49] <cafuego_> unop: Well, it does verification ... and you cna kinda resume if you stop or crash halfway through :-)
[01:49] <baktaah> Sulo_Seppa,  Kubuntu EATS the computer alive
[01:49] <spasticteapot> You'll need to install a standard Windows driver for NDISwrapper to work - to put it simply, it's a windows emulator for drivers.
[01:49] <spasticteapot> baktaah: Mepis seemed to run sorta-okay on a 733mhz PIII.
[01:49] <SurfnKid> unop: um i cant do anything, I cant get into user/groups how do i get back the access?
[01:49] <spasticteapot> XFCE ran faster on a PC with a 333mhz Celeron and about half the ram, though.
[01:49] <unop> bayziders,  a seed is what youd call a source -- multiple seeds can exist for a single file -- better or higher ranked seeds usually provide better speeds, bandwidth, access, etc
[01:50] <bayziders> Okay I'm a little confused. First what is uploading and does Azuerus support dht?
[01:50] <spasticteapot> Sulo_Seppa: If you need any more help, e-mail my IRC user at gmail.com
[01:50] <unop> SurfnKid, what does the id command return?
[01:50] <FakeOutdoorsman> Sulo: I'm running a light version of Xubuntu with openbox as the GUI on a 7 yo Toughbook
[01:50] <baktaah> All I have to say is that from using Kubuntu,  Xubuntu seems easier on the computer
[01:50] <baktaah> less lag
[01:50] <baktaah> faster starting times
[01:50] <spasticteapot> FakeOutdoorsman: Nice.
[01:50] <baktaah> easier processing.
[01:50] <jvai> yea, i got xubuntu in a pentium 1 w/ 64 mb of ram.. dsl connect, fraster than xp on the same box
[01:50] <spasticteapot> FakeOutdoorsman: What model? I've always been curious about those.
[01:50] <baktaah> It's like ther are weights lifted from the computers shoulders
[01:51] <baktaah> jvai,  yeah that is the shit :)
[01:51] <elias_> how to set the HZ in my kernel?
[01:51] <SurfnKid> unop: just --- id ?
[01:51] <spasticteapot> IMHO, Xubuntu is far superior to Ubuntu.
[01:51] <baktaah> Yeah
[01:51] <unop> SurfnKid,  yep
[01:51] <baktaah> FAR
[01:51] <SurfnKid> k
[01:51] <matgates> Anyone else with nvidia car re-living last year's mess with the nvidia xorg driver getting broken?
[01:51] <spasticteapot> If only because people in the 3rd world can afford PCs that can run it.
[01:51] <baktaah> Im in love :) (got Xubuntu for like 20 minutes ago)
[01:51] <Sulo_Seppa> Alright, thanks for your help everyone! I am going to read a little more about xubuntu and use either that or kubuntu. Thanks again
[01:51] <matgates> *card
[01:51] <cafuego_> baktaah: well, Xubuntu is *far* more lightweight.
[01:51] <baktaah> cafuego,  it doesn't show :)
[01:51] <baktaah> I mean
[01:51] <baktaah> really
[01:51] <spasticteapot> IIRC, the $200 ($70 in mass production, I'd guess) runs Xubuntu like a champ.
[01:51] <baktaah> get XGL to run on it
[01:51] <baktaah> it will be the prettiest lightweight between ub/kub
[01:51] <matgates> An update killed mt nvidia module
[01:51] <bruenig> baktaah, it would hopefully show how lightweight it is, that is the point
[01:52] <jvai> word @baktsh, but xubuntu feels limited, i had a hard tyme changing wallpaper
[01:52] <SurfnKid> unop: http://www.pastebin.ca/348235
[01:52] <spasticteapot> jvai: check the config menu.
[01:52] <FakeOutdoorsman> you can install Xubuntu witout GDE and use soem other lightweight windows manager.  info at ubuntu wiki is useful
[01:52] <baktaah> jvai, ....... rightclick, desktop? what the hell
[01:52] <spasticteapot> It's a bit like Apple's OSX, which I'm pretty familiar with.
[01:52] <baktaah> HOWEVER
[01:52] <baktaah> I can't change my resolution
[01:52] <jvai> yea.. it never stiked aftr a reboot
[01:52] <jollyroger> baktaah, rausb0    RT2500USB WLAN  ESSID:"linksys"
[01:52] <jollyroger>           Mode:Managed  Frequency=2.437 GHz  Access Point: 00:18:F8:49:F6:6C
[01:52] <jollyroger>           Bit Rate=54 Mb/s
[01:52] <jollyroger>           RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[01:52] <jollyroger>           Link Quality=0/70  Signal level:-43 dBm  Noise level:-195 dBm
[01:52] <baktaah> the display manager is falty.
[01:52] <jollyroger>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[01:52] <jollyroger>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[01:52] <spasticteapot> Actually, my interface is creepily similar to the OSX GUI.
[01:52] <jollyroger> Sorry about the flooding.
[01:52] <spasticteapot> XFCE is very customizable.
[01:52] <brent> help edit line on installed for resolution??????
[01:53] <matgates> which package provides the nvidia module?
[01:53] <unop> SurfnKid,  errm, still no change -- have you tried logging off and logging back in?
[01:53] <sashalap> XFCE is poor
[01:53] <baktaah> jollyroger,
[01:53] <baktaah> sashalap,  hell no
[01:53] <SurfnKid> unop: that could help right :)
[01:53] <soundray> matgates: linux-restricted-$(uname -r)
[01:53] <matgates> soundray: thanks.
[01:53] <baktaah> jollyroger,  download wireless assistant
[01:53] <bayziders> I'm just asking cause I'm geting 2.1 kbs right now.
[01:53] <jollyroger> From where?
[01:53] <baktaah> ...apt-get
[01:53] <unop> cafuego_,  i know what you are saying -- but the verification and resume seems a little of overkill for a local-to-local replication :)
[01:53] <baktaah> or whatever u got
[01:53] <jollyroger> Just making sure.
[01:53] <unop> SurfnKid,  indeed
[01:53] <sashalap> but i usage Kubuntu
[01:54] <kingbob> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match my running kernel?
[01:54] <fips> when i try to compile apache, i get:
[01:54] <fips> gcc: @APRUTILL_LDFLAGS@: No such file or directory
[01:54] <fips> /usr/bin/install: cannot stat `apache2': No such file or directory
[01:54] <fips> mv: cannot stat `debian/apache2-mpm-worker/usr/include/apache2/apu*': No such file or directory
[01:54] <inan> anyone know when the linux-image-generic issue is likely to be fixed?
[01:54] <baktaah> ANYONE with KISMET and an atheros card, I would be grateful for some help, all I need is something from your kismet.conf
[01:54] <unop> !paste | fips jollyroger
[01:54] <ubotu> fips jollyroger: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:54] <soundray> inan: it's been fixed.
[01:54] <cchance> Every one, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4971/ How can i make that apply to my network users as well?
[01:54] <fips> what's the matter?
[01:55] <cchance> To where they apply to the same rules but through my pc
[01:55] <unop> fips,  try and not paste directly into the channel -- its busy as it is :)
[01:55] <BuckWild> can someone explain to me why it is that the only way I can get DVDs to play is if I insert them?
[01:55] <BuckWild> totem plays DVDs when you insert them
[01:55] <BuckWild> but won't if you hit play DVD
[01:55] <BuckWild> and nothing else does either
[01:56] <inan> soundray: I'm still getting unmet dependency on linux-image-2.6.17-11-generic, maybe delay in propogation?  do you know which server it's on now?
[01:56] <nevron> is there a tabbed file manager that i can use in ubuntu
[01:56] <notgod> ok, this one is a really small issue, but it's bugging the crap outta me.  I am used to command line history in the terminal (zsh) going to the end of the line when I up-arrow to one of my previous commands.  For some reason, it's going to the begenning of the line.
[01:56] <SurfnKid> unop: now i should run id ?
[01:56] <SurfnKid> unop: let me see
[01:56] <soundray> inan: security.ubuntu.com I think. Have you done a 'sudo apt-get update'?
[01:56] <unop> BuckWild, you got multiple optical devices -- perhaps another cdrom drive ?
[01:56] <SurfnKid> unop: uid=1000(sx270) gid=1000(sx270) grupos=33(www-data),1000(sx270)
[01:57] <BuckWild> unop: yes I do
[01:57] <fips> unop: yes, i see! sorry! ;)
[01:57] <BuckWild> unop: dvd-rom and dvd-r
[01:57] <cchance> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4971/
[01:57] <Sanne> nevron: you can use konqueror in ubuntu (it will install a bunch of kde libs)
[01:57] <tinto> anyone know how to run an X session over ssh? - just a keyword so I can find somehting on google would be massively appreciated as I can only find how to run X apps - not an X session.
[01:57] <unop> SurfnKid,  ok, hold tight -- i'm coming to the rescue :)
[01:57] <tinto> ..?
[01:57] <SurfnKid> unop: ok np
[01:57] <SurfnKid> thanks
[01:57] <Blacken> Hey there, I installed the rageircd package but it blew up mid-install, returned an error code. Now I can't remove it. How do I get rid of it?
[01:57] <inan> soundray: yes, i've updated.. maybe I need to apt-get -f install?
[01:57] <brent> please tell me what to type in edit line to change my resolution?
[01:57] <soundray> BuckWild: can you play the DVD from the context menu when you right-click on the symbol?
[01:58] <unop> errm, BuckWild not that i know how to fix this -- it's likely that totem (or whatever else) is trying to play the DVD from the wrong drive (the cdrom in this case)
[01:58] <bayziders> Whats the best port for torrents?
[01:58] <soundray> inan: I don't think so. Do it tomorrow, by then it will have propagated.
[01:58] <cchance> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4972/
[01:58] <BuckWild> unop: don['t think that's it because even if I hit it from the file menu it doesn't work
[01:58] <jvai> 6667
[01:58] <sashalap> BuckWild try VLC
[01:59] <sashalap> or Kaffeine
[01:59] <fips> compiling apache i encounter the following problems: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4973/
[01:59] <kingbob> cafuego_: I tried /usr/include after installing build-essential, but the install said The directory of kernel headers (version 2.6.11) does not match your running
[01:59] <kingbob> kernel (version 2.6.15-26-386).
[01:59] <fips> what's the matter?
[01:59] <sashalap> maybe work
[01:59] <kitche> tinto: freenx
[01:59] <BuckWild> it says I don't have the appropriate plugins, which makes no sense because it plays it when I put the disk in, WTF
[01:59] <inan> soundray: simulating a -f install will only install linux-image-2.6.17-11-generic, looks safe
[01:59] <BuckWild> I'm getting flustered and thinking about going back to WinXP
[01:59] <BuckWild> haha
[01:59] <soundray> kingbob: 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)'
[01:59] <brent> please tell me what to type in edit line to change my resolution?
[01:59] <sasha> ))
[01:59] <soundray> inan: yes
[02:00] <kingbob> soundray: thank you
[02:00] <jvai> buckwild.. dont do it maaan
[02:00] <BuckWild> I can't get twinview to work, I knew I wouldn't be able to get my TV tuner working which is fine, but I'd like to at least have twin view and DVD player going
[02:00] <jollyroger> I'll be right back I'm getting on my Ubuntu Machine.
[02:00] <apelsinchoklad__> I have started the install-cd on my old imac 233mhz, 160mb ram... but screen is just black.. i have change to the console mode now... but what should i write to see something when i turn back to the desktop???
[02:01] <Sanne> kingbob: if you're missing a certain file and you know it's name, you can check on packages.ubuntu.com which package provides that file (second search box).
[02:01] <BuckWild> twinview pretends like it's using two monitors and then just uses one
[02:01] <tinto> kitche, thanks ;)
[02:01] <BuckWild> no error, nothing
[02:01] <soundray> BuckWild: for twinview, have you read /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/README.txt.gz ?
[02:01] <sasha> apelsinchoklad xmm,try startx
[02:02] <livingdaylight__> unop, sorry, the page has scrolled off. Its just finished copying, Could you give  me the command again, please?
[02:02] <kitche> tinto: you can use vnc though ssh but I think freenx is just better then vnc though ssh
[02:02] <dayat> anyone help me please?? i can't install acrobat reader plugins in firefox
[02:02] <livingdaylight__> unop, cd /media/multimedia/music ?
[02:02] <unop> SurfnKid,  ok, first command - sudo usermod -G $USER
[02:02] <soundray> dayat: are you on amd64?
[02:02] <ferret_0567> !logs
[02:02] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[02:02] <dayat> intel 386
[02:03] <unop> livingdaylight__,  or use nautilus as you are comfortable with it
[02:03] <unop> :)
[02:03] <freefloat> dayat: try xpdf
[02:03] <cchance> Everyone, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4972/
[02:03] <brent> i cant even see my freaking desktop and u think yall have probs
[02:03] <unop> SurfnKid,  second command : for i in adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin sx270; do echo sudo usermod -g $i; done
[02:03] <livingdaylight__> unop, its there
[02:03] <apelsinchoklad__> sasha: dosent work.. says: fatal server error...
[02:03] <BuckWild> soundray: I read through a couple guides
[02:03] <dayat> my website need acrobat reader
[02:03] <unop> SurfnKid, correction ..  second command : for i in adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin sx270; do sudo usermod -g $i; done
[02:04] <BuckWild> soundray: like I said, I looked at the logs when it was starting up, and it seems like it should work but it just never does
[02:04] <SurfnKid_> unop: what the...  start on "for...  end on ;" ?
[02:04] <freefloat> dayat: I don't think so :-)
[02:04] <tinto> kitche, am just checking it out now - confused so far  but I'm sure it'll sort itself out. - All excited :) first pandora, then ssh - now freenx will become a part of my life... just gets better & better!!!
[02:04] <soundray> BuckWild: use that README, it's from nvidia and it has all the details
[02:04] <unop> SurfnKid_,  i think I accidentally erased your group membership with the -G switch to usermod in the first command then
[02:04] <BuckWild> soundray: I actually did read this, only it was online
[02:04] <freefloat> dayat: That would be really strange not to say flawed
[02:04] <SurfnKid_> unop: uh oh
[02:05] <livingdaylight__> unop, that is amazing
[02:05] <SurfnKid_> ok but it can be fixed?
[02:05] <BuckWild> soundray: the problem isn't in me setting the options, the options don't work
[02:05] <SurfnKid_> unop: let me try that command then
[02:05] <unop> SurfnKid_,  not to worry, just run these two commands and it'll be back to normal :)
[02:05] <BuckWild> soundray: unless I have to add another monitor entry or something that I'm missing
[02:05] <inan> soundray: thanks for your help, my apt is working now.
[02:05] <livingdaylight__> unop, so, you've attached sda5 to /media?
[02:05] <unop> livingdaylight__,  you sure all your music exists in that directory ? :)
[02:05] <dayat> xpdf is not work at this website
[02:05] <unop> livingdaylight__,  indeed :)
[02:06] <dayat> its need acrobat reader
[02:06] <BuckWild> I mean, I'd be happy to clank away all night if I were guaranteed a solution, but I have a feeling the end game looks a lot like it does right now, no DVD player and no twinview...intolerable
[02:06] <dayat> so can you help me to install plugins
[02:06] <Blacken> Hey there. I just tried to install the rageircd package and it broke. Now I can't remove it. How do I get rid of the bloody thing?
[02:06] <livingdaylight__> unop, that's clever and i can just shift things over there now. So, i can empty my /home/conrad/music
[02:06] <soundray> BuckWild: no DVD player isn't true, and have you tried my context menu suggestion?
[02:06] <unop> livingdaylight__,  now, if you're happy that all your music is in the new location -  rm -rf ~/music; ln -s /media/multimedia/music ~/
[02:06] <freefloat> dayat: this is just about picking the right mime/type as a helper application
[02:06] <unop> livingdaylight__,  which is what i just did :)
[02:06] <BuckWild> soundray: what context menu are you talking about?
[02:07] <soundray> BuckWild: the one that opens when you right-click the DVD symbol on the desktop.
[02:07] <unop> livingdaylight__,  only difference is you can still access your music through /home/conrad/music (as it links to /media/multimedia/music) :)
[02:07] <livingdaylight__> unop, i better just check one more time, hehe
[02:07] <BuckWild> I don't get an option to open that with anything
[02:07] <SurfnKid_> unop: hold on one sec
[02:07] <BuckWild> besides the file viewer
[02:07] <ferret_0567> !logs
[02:07] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[02:07] <unop> SurfnKid,  do you want the command again? let me know if you do :)
[02:07] <soundray> BuckWild: what does a double-click do?
[02:08] <BuckWild> soundray: opens the disk with a folder
[02:08] <livingdaylight__> unop, so, that leads me to ask. Coz i'm using nicotine+ to share music. Will i have to change directory for people to still be ale to access my music?
[02:08] <soundray> BuckWild: you're not on feisty by any chance?
[02:08] <BuckWild> soundray: nah I'm on 6.10
[02:08] <brent> if someone would just tell me to go away of ban me or answer this question that i have asked for the 8th time How to change screen resolution in edit instead of ignoring me
[02:09] <SurfnKid> ok there
[02:09] <unop> livingdaylight__,  correction (to be a little safer) -  rm -rf ~/music; ln -s /media/multimedia/music ~/music .... and no, all your apps and whatnot should work just the way they did
[02:09] <Hansel> brent - you want to change your X resolution?
[02:09] <apelsinchoklad__> i repet the question: I have started the install-cd on my old imac 233mhz, 160mb ram... but screen is just black.. i have change to the console mode now... but what should i write to see something when i turn back to the desktop???
[02:09] <beck> !amarok
[02:09] <ubotu> Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[02:09] <BuckWild> the real kicker for me is the fact that DVDs play when you put the disc in
[02:09] <BuckWild> automatically
[02:09] <rocks_port> hello
[02:09] <brent> yes on edit screen
[02:09] <Hansel> hi rocks_port
[02:09] <jordguitar> Umm.... whenever I try to install ubuntu on my hard drive, it just freezes up after the 5th step.
[02:09] <BuckWild> but then you can't get them to play if you want otherwise, like WTF
[02:09] <livingdaylight__> unop, what does rm -rf ~/music; ln -s /media/multimedia/music ~/ do exactly?
[02:09] <Hansel> brent - what do you mean edit screen?
[02:09] <brent> i got pink lines
[02:09] <rocks_port> I accidentally removed my Grub MBR I think
[02:10] <soundray> brent: sometimes it helps to pose the question differently, to describe the problem in more detail etc. Have you tried Ctrl-Alt-Keypad+ ?
[02:10] <brent> no desktop
[02:10] <rocks_port> I'm on a liveCD right now, and I need to boot into my ubuntu....
[02:10] <Skuller> hey guys...i managed to get the rythm codecs and can now play my mp3 files.....
[02:10] <jordguitar> I want to install beryl also but this is the first time that I am attempting to install a linux OS
[02:10] <Hansel> brent - killall -HUP gdm
[02:10] <SurfnKid> unop: could you pm the commands separately plz i got confused
[02:10] <livingdaylight__> amazing
[02:10] <Skuller> BUT....the sound is quite distorted compared to my winamp in windows
[02:10] <unop> livingdaylight__,  two part command seperated by ;  first part removes the music directory, second part creates a link called /home/conrad/music which points to the new location /media/multimedia/music
[02:10] <soundray> rocks_port: fix it as if Windows had overwritten it:
[02:10] <soundray> !grub | rocks_port
[02:10] <ubotu> rocks_port: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:10] <BuckWild> MPlayer gives me some can't open dvd://1 garbage
[02:10] <aSt3raL_> livingdaylight__: man rm man ln
[02:10] <jordguitar> which is somewhat harder than installing windows vista
[02:10] <dayat> i've installed acroread and mozilla-acroread but it's not work in firefox
[02:10] <unop> SurfnKid,  ok, coming up
[02:11] <aSt3raL_> livingdaylight__: rm is remove ln is lsystem link
[02:11] <soundray> dayat: have you restarted firefox?
[02:11] <jvai> buckwild is "dma" turned on? i forget the command to turn it on.. i had to from the hoary dayz
[02:11] <shatrat> Skuller, what do you mean by distorted?  You might want to try turning down some of the volumes in alsamixer.  I know that on mine if I turn PCM all the way up i tgets crackly.
[02:11] <nicolah> I would like to rename my photo with exif timestamp, any help ?
[02:11] <SurfnKid> sorry i didnt understand how they were broken down, :)
[02:11] <brent> thank you hansel i will try this
[02:11] <dayat> yes
[02:11] <BuckWild> at first I was gonna run 64-bit ubuntu, then I noticed that everything seemed to have an exception for 64-bit so that seemed too scary
[02:11] <unop> SurfnKid,   sudo usermod -G $USER;  for i in adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin sx270; do sudo usermod -g $i; done
[02:11] <jordguitar> Can I get some help?
[02:11] <BuckWild> having to install 32-bit firefox just to get flash to work sucks
[02:11] <shatrat> jordguitar, with what?
[02:11] <unop> SurfnKid,  oops, hold on
[02:11] <BuckWild> jvai: yeah, it's on
[02:11] <SurfnKid> heh np
[02:11] <unop> SurfnKid,   sudo usermod -G $USER $USER;  for i in adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin sx270; do sudo usermod -g $i; done
[02:11] <__mikem> !ask | jordguitar
[02:11] <ubotu> jordguitar: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:11] <jvai> oiu
[02:12] <jordguitar> Installing ubuntu. I get to the 5th step and it just freezes and I already did
[02:12] <shatrat> jordguitar, which one is the 5th step?
[02:12] <Skuller> shatrat, where can i find the 'alsamixer' u tok abt
[02:12] <Skuller> ?
[02:12] <livingdaylight__> unop, rm -rf ~/music takes a while!
[02:12] <shatrat> Skuller, just type that in terminal.
[02:12] <rocks_port> oh my god
[02:12] <rocks_port> I thought I did that
[02:12] <Hansel> jordguitar - are you using Ubuntu installer?  They have command-line only installers if you have older hardware that freezes with the GUI installer... I had to do that for my old p1 400mhz.
[02:12] <rocks_port> I think this might work
[02:12] <rocks_port> thank you if it does.. =)
[02:12] <BuckWild> I don't understand why twinview is so hard to support, even in clone mode, I mean it friggin clones the display when you are starting the computer, before anything is loaded
[02:12] <BuckWild> how the hell hard can it be
[02:12] <aSt3raL_> livingdaylight__: if you want to know what a command does type man commandname
[02:13] <jordguitar> deciding how much of the hard drive you want to use for linux
[02:13] <unop> livingdaylight__,  so what i've done here is moved the directory to the new partition but left a shortcut behind which will fool other apps into believing that location still exists ..s o everything should be transparent to apps that dont know its a link
[02:13] <jordguitar> i forgot the wotd
[02:13] <jordguitar> word*
[02:13] <shatrat> jordguitar, partitioning step.  Did you do manual or automatic?
[02:13] <aSt3raL_> jordguitar: partitioning
[02:13] <brent> hansel one more question , i put this in the edit line on boot up ?
[02:13] <tc4200> Evening all.. anyone have the time and desire to help me correct a self inflicted boo-boo with ipw2200 install on dapper?
[02:13] <jordguitar> automatic
[02:13] <Hansel> brent - no...
[02:13] <jordguitar> i think
[02:13] <unop> livingdaylight__,  yea, depends on how much music you have in it .. should take no more than a minute
[02:13] <jordguitar> I chose the ammount and then ckicked next
[02:13] <Hansel> brent - explain in more detail what you are trying to do... if you want to fix your screen resolution for X Windows you need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:14] <Hansel> !resolution | brent
[02:14] <ubotu> brent: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:14] <livingdaylight__> aSt3raL_, i knew what rm does but i was interested in the meaning of the whole line, but thx
[02:14] <brent> i cant see desktop just vertical lines
[02:14] <soundray> BuckWild: I know you're getting impatient, but please stop swearing
[02:14] <dayat> soundray: what i must to do
[02:14] <Hansel> brent - read the URL in that link posted by Uboto...
[02:14] <BuckWild> soundray: I really don't want to use windows anymore, but this doesn't work either....
[02:14] <livingdaylight__> unop, you clever sod.. fooling all the apps, lol
[02:14] <Hansel> brent - you are probably trying too high of a resolution or using the wrong video driver... try vesa and 800x600
[02:15] <BuckWild> soundray: to go from something fully functioning to something that will probably never function at all...just can't happen
[02:15] <livingdaylight__> unop, done
[02:15] <brent> yes yes how to get that command at boot up?
[02:15] <jordguitar> I might just wipe the hard drive and just have linux but i need a linux internet driver for my Linksys wireless g usb network addaptor
[02:15] <unop> livingdaylight__,  ln creates links, ln -s creates a shortcut/soft_link -- ln -s /target/dir /path/to/shortcut :)
[02:15] <Hansel> brent - if you sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf   it will make the changes permanent.
[02:15] <shatrat> jordguitar, you might try launching the Gparted thats in the System menu on the LiveCD
[02:15] <soundray> BuckWild: if you aren't willing to cut Linux some slack, then, by all means, return to the proprietary jail that is Windows.
[02:15] <SurfnKid> jordguitar: using wlan-ng?
[02:15] <unop> livingdaylight__, check this now -- find ~/music :)
[02:15] <M_Fatih> hi everybody
[02:15] <SurfnKid> unop: should have a pm there waiting
[02:15] <shatrat> jordguitar, youll need a large ext3 partition for / and one slightly larger than your RAM for /swap
[02:16] <BuckWild> soundray: I don't want to, I just said.  But not being able to run my TV and not being able to watch DVDs, that's just awful...
[02:16] <apelsinchoklad__> I have started the install-cd on my old imac 233mhz, 160mb ram... but the screen is just black.. i have change to the console mode now... but what should i write to see something when i turn back to the desktop??? someone hwo nows???
[02:16] <kitche> !dvd | BuckWild
[02:16] <ubotu> BuckWild: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:16] <jordguitar> model number is WUSB54GS
[02:16] <unop> SurfnKid, i was just going to ask how it was going -- i got no PM (are you registered on these servers?)
[02:16] <soundray> BuckWild: you're forgetting that it's awful hard to support all these proprietary technologies, like closed nvidia hardware and encrypted DVDs from an open OS
[02:16] <SurfnKid> unop: yeah hmmm
[02:16] <jvai> buckwild.. it may be a hardware prob... the box itself
[02:16] <Ins|de> hi there! i have a little question abount installing ubuntu, is it possible install ubuntu without formating the partition, can i install ubuntu without re-formating filesystem ?
[02:16] <BuckWild> jvai: how so?
[02:16] <Skuller> niiice....thnx heaps...the sound is clear now after reducing the PCM in alsamixer
[02:17] <shatrat> Skuller, no problem.
[02:17] <Quintin> Ins|de: not really.
[02:17] <livingdaylight__> unop, find ~/music from /home/me$  ?
[02:17] <SurfnKid> unop: argh now i am
[02:17] <jvai> some hardware works nicer than othrs
[02:17] <jordguitar> I went to there site and they didnt have a linux driver.... Wondering if you geniuses made one
[02:17] <kitche> !twinview | BuckWild
[02:17] <ubotu> BuckWild: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[02:17] <soundray> BuckWild: some nvidia cards don't even support twinview properly. I had that on an Acer laptop.
[02:17] <unop> livingdaylight__,  from anywhere really, it shouldnt matter :)
[02:17] <Skuller> i have a whole list of things to clear up with you people so dont mind my childishness......
[02:17] <unop> SurfnKid,  i just sent you two pms
[02:17] <BuckWild> soundray: it does, it works in windows at least, if I could just get clone to work I'd be happy
[02:17] <francois> hi, anyone here got a cinelerra running on ubuntu ?
[02:17] <livingdaylight__> unop, my /home/conrad/music still has all the music from before, is that right?
[02:17] <BuckWild> soundray: I just have to be able to use my TV in some fashion, that's the whole reason I bought an HDTV
[02:17] <shatrat> jordguitar, its usually best to not get drivers for linux from manufacturer.  I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that that USB wireless adapter works in ubuntu, although you might need to install ndiswrapper for the driver or something.
[02:18] <unop> livingdaylight__,  yep, thats what i was counting on :d
[02:18] <Skuller> firstly....how do i get my name to highlight everytime i get a message aimed at me?
[02:18] <soundray> BuckWild: you mentioned monitor sections. You do need one for each monitor I think.
[02:18] <SurfnKid> unop: me too lol
[02:18] <shatrat> Skuller, I dont know, does it automatically in Xchat
[02:18] <jordguitar> ok wtf is a ndiswrapper
[02:18] <Skuller> i am using xchat but it isnt doing it for me
[02:18] <francois> exit
[02:18] <M_Fatih> i want to add a user with no password how can i set no password, i want to automaticly pass password prompt in "kdesu" how can i do that?
[02:18] <BuckWild> soundray: hmm, yeah maybe that's the issue
[02:18] <jollyroger_> baktaah, I've gotten wireless assistant but it keeps telling me "connection failed".
[02:18] <unop> SurfnKid,  looks good so far -- one last command -- sudo usermod -g www-data $USER
[02:18] <livingdaylight__> unop, so i can 'see' them whwere they were in /home/conrad/music/ but actually they are in /media/multimedia/music which is sda5?
[02:18] <shatrat> jordguitar, its a wrapper for firmware so that you can use firmware from windows drivers to get devicese working in linux.
[02:19] <Quintin> Skuller: use irssi, xchat is crap
[02:19] <Hansel> !cinelerra
[02:19] <ubotu> cinelerra is a video editor and compositor. Install instructions can be found on http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php#ubuntu
[02:19] <unop> livingdaylight__,  you cant have got it more right, thats exactly how it is :)
[02:19] <SurfnKid> unop:  ok
[02:19] <jordguitar> and where do i get it so that i can place it on a cd
[02:19] <Quintin> M_Fatih: just add the user, then 'sudo passwd <user>'
[02:19] <SurfnKid> unop: i get perm. denied
[02:19] <SurfnKid> unop: well it didnt return anything, but couldnt get into the /var/www folder
[02:19] <unop> livingdaylight__,  if you check disk usage now - you should see a lot more freespace for /home :)
[02:20] <livingdaylight__> unop, that's a thing of beauty then , coz i can still just as easily look at my music 'close by' without having to navigate to /media/multimedia/music everytime
[02:20] <livingdaylight__> unop, indeed this is the acid test
[02:20] <jvai> hey every1, whats a good external dvd/r/rw for ubuntu? from bestbuy?
[02:20] <unop> SurfnKid,  log off and log back on -- it should work now
[02:20] <BuckWild> hmm
[02:20] <shatrat> jordguitar, the best way to go would be to hook your PC up to your router with ethernet at least until you get the drivers installed.
[02:20] <rpc> how can i close a single established tcp/ip session that i see via netstat?
[02:20] <SurfnKid> unop: was about to do that :) brb
[02:20] <jordguitar> I cant really do that x.x
[02:20] <M_Fatih> Quintin: it says "No password supplied" i want to set no password
[02:21] <Quintin> jvai: I'll sell you one real cheap <3
[02:21] <unop> livingdaylight__,  cool, now, you can do the same for your other folders too -- movies, pR0n, etc .. :d
[02:21] <Hansel> M Fatih - a passwordless user account?  Tell me why you think that is a good idea.
[02:21] <Quintin> M_Fatih: Type 'sudo su' 'passwd <user>'
[02:21] <jvai> i'm on a thinkpad.. @ quintin
[02:21] <jordguitar> my computer would be either sitting in the catbox or be in pieces in the catbox after it breaks the wood that is holding the router up
[02:21] <Quintin> Hansel: It doesn't matter if it's a good idea or not, that's what the person wants.
[02:21] <livingdaylight__> unop, much better http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4983/
[02:21] <Hansel> So if somebody wants to commit suicide or kill somebody you are going to help them?  Tard...
[02:21] <soundray> BuckWild: at the moment, free software is still in the process of breaking into the mainstream. We're still pioneers if we decide to go with Linux. The fact that you have to bring a little patience and tenacity just comes with the territory.
[02:21] <shatrat> jordguitar, well, there are other ways. you can download the .deb files and copy them over, but it will be annoying.    I just, wanted it to actually work this time and it's frustrating.
[02:22] <Quintin> Hansel: How do you even know the box in question is on the net?
[02:22] <livingdaylight__> unop, but it gives me some breathing space
[02:22] <Skuller> where do i get irsso from?
[02:22] <Hansel> Quintin - you probably tell people to install Windows with the main user account as a passwordless admin... you are a tard.  stfu kthx.
[02:22] <LjL> !language | hansel, Quintin
[02:22] <ubotu> hansel, Quintin: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:23] <jollyroger_> Can someone help me with my wireless?
[02:23] <Skuller> irrsi i mean....where do i get it from?
[02:23] <jordguitar> I will try to move my computer over there but I just need the site that has the driver. Final question, should I wipe my hard drive and have just linux on it or partition it and have linux and vista on it?
[02:23] <Quintin> M_Fatih: That's odd.  I would guess that ubuntu has a non-standard passwd then.  Add the user, and blank the password in /etc/passwd and maybe /etc/shadow then
[02:23] <livingdaylight__> unop, and for nicotine+ i can carry on downloading music to /home/conrad/music but it'll actually go to sda5 (/media/multimedia/music) is that right aswell?
[02:23] <kitche> Skuller: sudo apt-get install irssi
[02:23] <Quintin> Skuller: 'irssi'.  sudo apt-get install irssi
[02:23] <M_Fatih> Quintin: hmm. i'm trying..
[02:23] <shatrat> jordguitar, well, if you already own vista might as well dual boot.  hate to throw anything away.
[02:23] <unop> livingdaylight__,  well, your disk is simply too small for your liking .. :) time to head on down to tottenham court road :p
[02:23] <Skuller> thnx
[02:24] <livingdaylight__> unop, IMAO
[02:24] <jordguitar> Ok.
[02:24] <unop> livingdaylight__,  yea nicotine+ and whatever else can continue working as normal :)
[02:24] <Hansel> Quintin - I find you presumptuous, asinine, and overall exasperating and decided to tell you about it.
[02:24] <Quintin> jvai: I have a liteon and it works quite well.
[02:24] <LjL> Quintin: nevertheless, it's far from a bad idea to tell users about the risks of doing something (such as having a passwordless account), even if it was they asking
[02:24] <jordguitar> Let me search for that damn driver first so I know where to go when I set it up
[02:24] <soundray> BuckWild: that's why I'm saying this to you. Remind yourself that you're a pioneer and that Ubuntu and Linux are what they are predominantly through volunteer offers which are mostly still ignored, and sometimes fought fervently by those who sold you that DVD and that HD TV.
[02:24] <ldiamond> Can any1 plz help me fix my resolution?
[02:24] <jvai> quintin.. usb connect? got a site i can hava looksee?
[02:24] <soundray> BuckWild: s/offers/efforts/
[02:24] <BuckWild> soundray: well I figured out one problem, it was that I have a DVD-R and DVD-ROM
[02:24] <shatrat> jordguitar, what is the model of your card? Im sure there is a how-to that you can follow to get it going
[02:24] <SurfnKid> unop: ok done.. i checked to see if i could enter into the user/group settings, but its not in the menu
[02:24] <BuckWild> soundray: it plays DVDs from the second drive but not the first
[02:24] <SurfnKid> unop: how do i get that back?
[02:25] <soundray> BuckWild: that helps
[02:25] <jordguitar> wusb54gs
[02:25] <ldiamond> I enabled 1680x1050 in ubuntu, but when i select it it doesnt seem to be 1680x1050
[02:25] <ldiamond> My monitor still says its not the right resolution
[02:25] <Quintin> jvai: what yo uwant to see? :P  it's 16x dvd, 48x cd, black case..
[02:25] <ldiamond> and the image and text look bad
[02:25] <BuckWild> soundray: I'm just guessing here, but does that have anything to do with linux having a /dev/dvd device that's linked symbolically?
[02:25] <shatrat> ldiamond, do you have the proper video card drivers?
[02:25] <jvai> quintin what liteon model?
[02:25] <unop> SurfnKid,  aren't you logging in to the remote machine via SSH ?
[02:25] <jvai> i can atleast google it
[02:25] <soundray> BuckWild: possibly. You can re-link that to the drive you want it to be.
[02:26] <ldiamond> Well I think so
[02:26] <ldiamond> how do i check that out
[02:26] <rocks_port> I'm back
[02:26] <SurfnKid> unop: sure, but it is also being used
[02:26] <BuckWild> soundray: can I link two dvd drives though? how does that work?
[02:26] <rocks_port> I believe that grub is installed
[02:26] <unop> SurfnKid,  so you using X over ssh?
[02:26] <Skuller> how do i use irssi?
[02:26] <SurfnKid> unop: if i understand that correctly yes
[02:26] <Quintin> jvai: shw-1635s
[02:26] <jvai> ok
[02:26] <Quintin> Skuller: open a terminal and type 'irssi' ....
[02:27] <rocks_port> however, nothing starts
[02:27] <SurfnKid> X from my laptop to this one via ssh
[02:27] <shatrat> jordguitar, yeah, you are gonna need ndiswrapper.  I founda  how-to to get your wusb54gs going, but it will be a real pain without internet access.
[02:27] <Skuller> i did that...and then what?
[02:27] <rocks_port> it's just a black screen and my computer does nothing....
[02:27] <unop> SurfnKid,  ok, errm, what happens when you type this at the command line -- gksudo users-admin ?
[02:27] <soundray> BuckWild: not sure, but you could try making a /dev/dvd0 in addition to your /dev/dvd, or you could delete /dev/dvd and make /dev/dvd0 and /dev/dvd1
[02:27] <SurfnKid> unop: im not too familiar with the whole X over ssh yet :P
[02:27] <ldiamond> shatrat, how do i see what driver i have?
[02:27] <lordkeiden> what is a good firewall that has a good gui for admin/config?
[02:27] <jordguitar> I will be moving my computer.
[02:27] <Quintin> Skuller: /connect irc.freenode.net | /join #ubuntu | /join #irssi
[02:27] <soundray> BuckWild: the command to make a softlink is ln -s
[02:27] <livingdaylight__> unop, don't know how to thank you - thank you
[02:27] <Quintin> lordkeiden: firestarter.  google would have told you this.
[02:27] <jordguitar> So all I need is the url so that I can slap it in
[02:27] <unop> SurfnKid,  well, i just had to make sure that you are working on the remote machine and not on the local one :p
[02:28] <unop> livingdaylight__, you already have :) you're welcome
[02:28] <jvai> ooo @ quintin.. that liteon has a fat arse!!!
[02:28] <BuckWild> soundray: hmm, k, maybe I'll just use it out of the second drive... hehe
[02:28] <shatrat> ldiamond, well, if you have direct rendering: yes in your glxinfo then it is usually a good sign that everything is ok
[02:28] <SurfnKid> unop: oh right, nah im on the remote one. i ran it and returned it got an error, i couldnt execute this task
[02:28] <M_Fatih> how must i change /etc/shaddow to set no-password[ed]  user? null not works
[02:28] <BuckWild> soundray: cuz at least mplayer looks in just one location, so I don't see how making two will work there
[02:28] <Quintin> jvai: it's normal size external optical drive
[02:28] <shatrat> jordguitar, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=225206  , its kind of old but it should still work.
[02:28] <Quintin> M_Fatih: blank it
[02:28] <unop> livingdaylight__,  now you have another 12G of space for your music -- :)  you going to keep your other multimedia (movies, etc) in /home?