[01:19] <roasted> snaps seem to still require authentication?
[04:07] <lotuspsychje> did you fix it jayze
[04:09] <jayze> Yeah everything is working pretty great
[04:09] <jayze> although I was not able to connect to wifi on campus today. Must be something of how the wifi is setup authentication wise.
[04:10] <jayze> Works just fine at home when im not on the dock and authenticates.
[04:13] <lotuspsychje> jayze: yeah .edu networks can be a pain
[04:14] <jayze> yep, I am not sure exactly what the issue is there. But I am going to work on it next week for sure.
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> jayze: got any other bugs on artful you seen?
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> these are my founds https://bugs.launchpad.net/~lotuspsychje
[04:52] <jayze> mmm well, caffeine was crashing everytime I loaded up.
[04:52] <jayze> but I just removed it.
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> jayze: not very big issues :p
[04:53] <jayze> nope, not really.
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> jayze: overall gnome smoothness good for you on wayland?
[04:53] <jayze> Its been pretty stable, I did not even bother installing a LTS partition.
[04:54] <jayze> Very smooth.
[04:54] <jayze> Id try it on my desktop but I dont really want to setup dual booting on that machine. Though it would be way overpowered.
[04:55] <jayze> I am curious to see it run though
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> jayze: i got stuttering issue on xorg to wayland switch
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> on older ati x800
[05:21] <jstarnes> Hello, all. This afternoon I made a live usb of the beta iso. It worked fine on my desktop, however on my acer chromebook 14 with galliumos gave a boot error gfxboot. Is this a known issue?
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> jstarnes: try TAB to bypass it?
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | jstarnes could also help
[05:29] <jstarnes> I am currently on the chromebook under gallium, so testing will have to wait a bit.
[05:39] <jstarnes> Set up irc on phone. I will try your suggestions.
[05:43] <jstarnes-and> Ok 'live nomodetest' got me to the live desktop. Thanks
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> !yay | jstarnes-and
[05:49] <yookoala> Do you guys know much about Linux display stack?
[05:50] <yookoala> How does Linux treat tty console differently than the Xorg / wayland display?
[05:53] <yookoala> I'm still tracing a bug with Gnome, where it logs me off everytime I turn off the screen.
[05:54] <yookoala> But I do not know enough to the display stack to pin point the exact pacakge thats responsible.
[06:36] <ducasse> yookoala: you don't really need to know, if you file a bug against some package that might be involved the devs will take care of reassigning it properly
[06:42] <yookoala> ducasse: I have filed a bug but I don't know if devs noticed that.
[06:42] <yookoala> I guess I might filed it under the wrong package.
[06:43] <ducasse> which package did you file it against? what is the bug number?
[06:45] <yookoala> ducasse: bug #1721428 under gnome-shell
[06:46] <ducasse> give me a moment to read it
[06:46] <yookoala> ducasse: Thanks
[06:49] <ducasse> it was only filed two days ago, that's not long. i suggest posting in the discussion thread you mention to get others to first of all confirm the bug, then add their comments. that will add to it's visibility.
[06:52] <yookoala> ducasse: There are already others (I believe from the forum thread) commented on the issue. But I think I gotta wait then.
[06:58] <jstarnes-and> On the liveusb I have not been able to get sound via the speakers or headphones. Happily bluetooth ad2p do work. Any ideas?
[08:06] <adamitsch> Why my computer wont shut down on 17.10?
[08:14] <adamitsch> and my area selection screenshot doesn't work ... :/
[13:18] <qqqwxlea> anybody have any success running gnome-music on 17.10 beta?
[14:19] <roasted> qwxlea: I was able to launch gnome music and play a local track
[14:19] <roasted> it doesn't seem to understand the symlink though. My music is symlinked over autofs from a smb share on my server.
[14:19] <roasted> I haven't used gnome music in a long time. This is kind of blah compared to rhythmbox. :<
[14:20] <roasted> Is anybody else noticing any weirdness with 17.10 and Wayland? Just a minute ago I had about 3 or 4 programs open. I hit CTRL Q to close VLC and my entire session logged out.
[14:20] <roasted> This has happened a few times...
[14:21] <qwxlea> roasted: thanks, that explains some missing stuff, the startup is just very slow on first start, I forgot about it and after an hour stuff appeared
[14:21] <qwxlea> but so far it's stable
[14:21] <roasted> yeah. i mean it functioned for what few local tracks I had
[14:21] <roasted> but if I can't tap into a network share for my music this thing is DOA to me. :P
[14:21] <qwxlea> yep, went back to clementine
[14:21] <roasted> I also find it irritating that just by clicking a track it auto plays it
[14:22] <qwxlea> which is ugly...
[14:22] <roasted> so when I was in IRC and lcick back to gnome music to make it active window, it switched my track
[14:22] <roasted> I haven't used clementine in a while now.
[14:22] <roasted> I hav ea soft spot for Clementine -- I used it to run the music at my own wedding 5 years ago. :P
[14:22] <roasted> I quite like rhythmbox tho. More simplistic than Clementine but it actually has useful/expected features vs Gnome Music.
[14:22] <qwxlea> clementine is like the dog from GOT, ugly but powerful, potentially evil (qt)
[14:23] <roasted> I think I have some misguided anger towards Qt at the moment.
[14:23] <roasted> The appindicator is acting silly with Qt apps
[14:23] <qwxlea> i like krita...
[14:23] <roasted> so i'm finding myself looking for a new IRC client that isn't Qt just to avoid that bug
[14:23] <roasted> I hope it gets fixed by release though
[14:23] <roasted> it's maddening
[14:24] <qwxlea> testing polari here
[14:24] <roasted> I'd rather simply not use appindicator than my icons changing just by my screen locking
[14:24] <roasted> I'm tempted to try out polari
[14:24] <roasted> but I would need some sort of bouncer
[14:24] <roasted> I use quassel-core and quassel-client. It's gravy.
[14:24] <roasted> I would need to set up ZNC or something to switch clients if I want that same feature set.
[14:24] <roasted> and ZNC is hilarious to set up vs that of QuasselCore
[14:24] <madigens> roasted: https://riot.im/
[14:25] <roasted> never heard of this madigens
[14:25] <roasted> looks neat at first glance tho
[14:25] <madigens> me neither until a month ago. it's an online messenger thingamabob with irc bridging
[14:25] <roasted> can I host it on my server?
[14:26] <madigens> maybe, the core is apparently opensource
[14:26] <qwxlea> madigens: that is not an inspiring line
[14:26] <qwxlea> :-)
[14:26] <roasted> haaa
[14:26] <madigens> :P
[14:26] <roasted> any of you running 17.10 with wayland?
[14:26] <qwxlea> yes
[14:27] <roasted> you see any random log outs when you hit certain keyboard shortcuts?
[14:27] <madigens> i'd love to run wayland but i don't seem to get that option
[14:27] <qwxlea> like what shortcuts?
[14:27] <roasted> like I hit CTRL Q to close VLC
[14:27] <roasted> an dit logged out my entire                                                                                session
[14:27] <qwxlea> just a sec... let me try
[14:27] <roasted> and somehow my laptop locked up typing that as I hit space bar
[14:28] <roasted> like just now I did it and it closed VLC fine
[14:28] <roasted> but 15 mins ago
[14:28] <roasted> session just died as if I hit log out
[14:29] <qwxlea> nope works fine vlc+wayland+CTRL-Q
[14:29] <roasted> it's happened with other apps too
[14:29] <qwxlea> but i have a super-simple graphic card
[14:29] <roasted> I don't even use VLC. That was the first time I opened it.
[14:29] <qwxlea> gnome-mpv here
[14:29] <roasted> yeah
[14:29] <roasted> I dig gnome-mpv and mpv
[14:29] <roasted> for difference use-case scenarios
[14:30] <roasted> what's your experience with appindicator
[14:30] <roasted> are you getting any wishy washy icons?
[14:30] <roasted> i.e. screen times out or you lock it, come back, half are gone?
[14:31] <roasted> seems isolated to Qt apps for the most part
[14:31] <qwxlea> nope, sofar everything is great, better then kde-neon-plasma which crashed daily
[14:31] <qwxlea> but i have been in chrome-emacs-gnome-terminal for two days, mainly
[14:31] <roasted> yeah I had a bad experience with neon
[14:32] <roasted> it does it with apps like dropbox and nextcloud too
[14:32] <roasted> and quassel in my case
[14:32] <roasted> telegram
[14:32] <qwxlea> yes, i try kde every two years or so, and then go back to gnome
[14:32] <roasted> if I lock screen and come back telegram, quassel, dropbox gone
[14:32] <roasted> nextcloud remains somehow
[14:32] <roasted> it's squirrely
[14:32] <qwxlea> ok, i haven't installed those yet, let me try installing dropbox ... brb
[14:36] <qwxlea> installing dropbox always makes me feel a bit dirty...
[14:36] <roasted> yeah. I really don't use dropbox much.
[14:37] <roasted> 5GB of Dropbox or 1TB on my nextcloud... tough decision :P
[14:37] <roasted> dropbox is a good example of the issue with appindicator that 17.10 will use, tho
[14:38] <qwxlea> roasted: you have a private nextcloud install?
[14:38] <roasted> yeah
[14:38] <roasted> I just host it on an old light power server in my basement
[14:38] <roasted> threw two laptop drives in there, 2x1TB, raid1'd them. it works. :P
[14:38] <qwxlea> ok, testing closing my laptop, and coming back, hopefully... brb
[14:39] <roasted> no need to test close. Even a simple lock screen + log in (Super L, then log back in) will simulate the issue. :P
[14:40] <roasted> hope the bug gets more traction by release
[14:40] <qwxlea> ok, got myself a beer, as i am being super helpful today :-)
[14:40] <roasted> you see the dropbox systray icon disappear?
[14:40] <qwxlea> dropbox icon is gone
[14:40] <roasted> there's a bug somewhere. could +1 it. :P sec...
[14:41] <roasted> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator/+bug/1719192
[14:41] <roasted> I gotta jet for a bit. back later. thanks for the quick confirmation. :P
[14:41] <qwxlea> welcome!
[15:03] <iratemin> Looking for some assistance on a wifi problem.  Upgraded 17.04 - 17.10 last night.  Wifi connects but continues to show a ? instead of strength.  Unable to resolve any address.
[15:03] <iratemin> Asking again before I wipe the laptop.
[15:04] <qwxlea> iratemin: you can do some debugging with nmcli
[15:06] <iratemin> im not experienced with that tool but can read up on it.  What types of checks do you suggest running?
[15:10] <qwxlea> start with nmcli> some pastebin, it is probably a driver issue
[15:13] <iratemin> sounds good.  I'll play with it tonight.  thanks for the advice
[15:17] <qwxlea> iratemin: we had stuff like this before: https://askubuntu.com/questions/613065/unable-to-connect-to-wireless-network-following-upgrade-to-15-04
[15:17] <qwxlea> have fun!
[20:04] <tosmann> Hi all, has anyone got any experience with the networking changes in Ubuntu 17.10 server in regard to static IPs and bridge interfaces?
[20:36] <tosmann> Mmmmmm.... juicy silence....
[20:40] <Bashing-om> tosmann: Generalities are too broad . Got a specific question ?
[20:43] <tosmann> Bashing-om: Yes - I've tried setting my network preferences (static) the same way I used to in 17.04 and 16.10 ( /etc/network/interfaces). This is ignored in 17.10. I've also tried to create a /etc/systemd/network/25-myconf.network but this is also ignored. I can't find any documentation on what has changed or what should be the "preferred" way of doing things now - thus, I ask - what changed? I want to create my br0 interface that has th IP and config
[20:44] <tosmann> and redirect it to my enp8s4f0...
[20:46] <Bashing-om> tosmann: Good question that I do not know the answer to . no br0 experience here . wait for the response here of those who do know .
[21:11] <qwxlea> tosmann: the best docs i used, but that was last year or so: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd-networkd#Bridge_interface
[21:14] <qwxlea> is tracker-preferences dead? how do i tell tracker NOT to index certain folders?
[21:22] <ducasse> tosmann: aiui, network configuration is now handled by netplan, but it is (or is supposed to, anyway) auto-generate config from existing /e/n/i or nm setups
[21:22] <ducasse> you might want to look into it anyway, 'nplan' package. i've got a link, somewhere...
[21:35] <tosmann> ducasse: step 1, hurdle 1:
[21:35] <tosmann> root@thjalfi:/etc/systemd/network# netplan ifupdown-migrate
[21:35] <tosmann> Unsupported method manual
[21:36] <tosmann> iface enp8s4f0 inet manual  <---- needed in the old /e/n/i when using a bridge...
[21:41] <ducasse> oh, faaantastic. i was thinking of upgrading my desktop today, glad i didn't...
[21:44] <ducasse> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Netplan https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MigratingToNetplan
[21:46] <roasted> qwxlea: I have the opposite problem. Tracker seems to work against the default folders, but not of anything inside new folders I created, such as nextcloud, etc.
[21:46] <roasted> oh what the
[21:47] <roasted> think I just found it actually?
[21:47] <qwxlea> roasted: gnome-control-center > search,  little star, add OTHER location
[21:47] <roasted> qwxlea: system settings >> search >> 3 lines in lower right corner
[21:47] <roasted> qwxlea: but doesn't that answer your question too as you can just disable what you don't want?
[21:48] <qwxlea> roasted: maybe, it might take some time for stuff to appear, disapear from the index
[21:48] <qwxlea> it sure is no OSX-spotlight :-(
[21:49] <roasted> I'm already getting results populating
[21:49] <roasted> so tracker must have updated
[21:50] <roasted> a more logical default approach would be any non-hidden dir in /home/$USER
[21:50] <roasted> wonder if I can just do that...
[21:58] <tosmann> ducasse: the magic line that will unbreak the network; "apt install ifupdown" :) Thanks for the link. I think they still have a mile to go with the migration to Netplan. It may be a good idea from a descriptive installation point of view - but from the viewpoint of a sysop of decades, it's "one more thing I have to learn and another which I can't unlearn". I've installed ifupdown and am about to reboot - let's see if the iron comes up with an active
[21:58] <tosmann> network again :)
[22:05] <Bashing-om> tosmann: fingers crossed :)
[22:06] <ducasse> tosmann: let's hope so :) seems it's trendy to plug in new software before it can do the stuff the old did...
[22:15] <tosmann> nope, still comes up on dhcp :|
[22:24] <kiroma> GRUB doesn't display anything for me, but still responds to keyboard actions.
[22:24] <kiroma> It started happening recently.
[22:30] <tosmann> ok, progress - installed bridge-tools (which aren't installed by default - my oversight) and rebooted, now the interfaces _are_ correctly configured - but something still tags as failed in starting the network (delaying boot for almost 2 minutes)...
[22:47] <Bashing-om> tosmann: ' systemd-analyze ; systemd-analyze blame ' give any hints ?
[23:31] <tosmann> The problem was systemd-networkd-wait-online - and it wasn't enough to do systemctl disable, it needed systemctl mask
[23:31] <tosmann> but at least no I have liftoff. Reboot time down to 160 seconds...
[23:32] <tosmann> s/no/now


[01:59] <Ahmuck> hi.  i need us international keyboard with dead keys
[01:59] <Ahmuck> however when i set this, every reboot I have to reset it again
[01:59] <Ahmuck> how do i set this permantly?
[02:03] <kanliot> can you edit /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart?
[02:13] <Ahmuck> yes
[02:13] <Ahmuck> kanliot: yes
[02:19] <Ahmuck> is there something I can place there that would set my keyboard?
[02:20] <Ahmuck> @setxkbmap -option
[02:20] <Ahmuck> option ?
[02:21] <Ahmuck> should i not be able to set it and have it work without resetting it every time?
[02:43] <kanliot> sorry ahmuck wasmt watching
[02:43] <kanliot> how are you starting setxkbmap?
[02:43] <kanliot> exact line please
[02:51] <Ahmuck> preference --
[02:51] <Ahmuck> lxkeymap
[02:52]  * Ahmuck bump kanliot
[02:52] <kanliot> so you arent switching keyboard layouts with the keyboard with xkbmap?
[02:52] <kanliot> setxkbmap
[02:54] <Ahmuck> no
[02:54] <Ahmuck> i am using the menu
[02:54] <Ahmuck> itś like there are four options on the menu
[02:55] <Ahmuck> sorry for the accent
[02:55] <kanliot> ok
[02:55] <kanliot> lemme google for a minute
[02:55] <kanliot> let me
[03:01]  * Ahmuck tried that
[03:01] <Ahmuck> it seems like it would be simple, set the keyboard and go
[03:06] <kanliot> arabic, right?
[03:06] <kanliot> can you edit /etc/default/keyboard
[03:06] <kanliot> and change XKBLAYOUT to
[03:06] <kanliot> "ar"
[03:07] <kanliot> not sure if it will work ahmuck
[03:07] <kanliot> best guess :)
[03:12] <PH_5> hey in Movie Player, what do i do when a message like this appear "GStreamer encountered a general supporting library error."?
[03:14] <kanliot> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7720350 | PH_5
[03:14] <PH_5> Kanliot: thanks
[03:14] <kanliot> just a guess man
[03:14] <kanliot> you can thank me if it works :)
[03:35] <Ahmuck> what is ar keyboard?
[03:35] <Ahmuck> kanliot:
[03:37] <kanliot> i believe it's arabic
[03:37] <kanliot> which keyboard layout would you like?
[03:38] <Ahmuck> us international with dead keys
[03:38] <Ahmuck> xbvariant
[03:38] <kanliot> there's us_intl
[03:38] <Ahmuck> or xboptions?
[03:38] <Ahmuck> oh, that might work
[03:39] <Ahmuck> http://www.xfree86.org/4.8.0/XKB-Config2.html\
[03:40] <bioterror> as Xorg hardly relays on Xorg.conf nowdays
[03:40] <bioterror> I have my xkblayout settings in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf
[03:41] <Ahmuck> bioterror: my problem is everytime i use the menu to change lxkeymap to us internatioanl with dead keys upone reboot i have to reset it
[03:41] <Ahmuck> i need a way to type accents for spanish
[03:41] <Ahmuck> so i was wondering why it did not stay set
[03:42] <bioterror> becouse it is not configured to stay set
[03:42] <PH_5> Kanliot: no it didn't :(
[03:42] <bioterror> you need to tweak this evdev.conf
[03:43] <bioterror> and add there this XkbLayout "us" to Section "inputdevice"
[03:44] <andantino> does the lubuntu installer provide any options regarding grub?
[03:44] <Ahmuck> is it really that hard to switch the default keyboard
[03:44] <bioterror> andantino, no
[03:44] <bioterror> Ahmuck, yes. it's that hard. to add a line to a config file
[03:46] <andantino> that's all part of the fun, Ahmuck
[03:46] <andantino> not hard, fun
[03:47] <Ahmuck> k
[03:47] <bioterror> that's how GNU/Linux systems works
[03:47] <Ahmuck> well, my studying is done here at the uni, so i am heading home
[03:47] <Ahmuck> l8r
[03:48] <andantino> no you cant go, you have to repeat it 'thats all part of the fun'
[03:48] <andantino> ooops too late
[03:48] <bioterror> :D
[03:49] <andantino> so basically, if i install lubuntu next to my current linux, i will have to use the grub menu from lubuntu
[03:49] <andantino> i guess it doenst matter
[05:12] <tweak-daddy> hi. when i downloaded, two times, the lubuntu 64-bit ISO  fca2034b89e8a0acd6536d41ccec061c *lubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[05:13] <tweak-daddy> that is what is reported on the website as the MD5sum, but that does not match what downloads from the link on lubuntu site.
[05:14] <tweak-daddy> and what downloads is not recognized as a valid file when I try burning it to a DVD.
[05:14] <tweak-daddy> something is wrong with the download linked file, I suspect.
[05:23] <Unit193> http://thesii.org/iso/lubuntu/precise/lubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso  Try that, but the other should be just fine.
[05:25] <Unit193> fca2034b89e8a0acd6536d41ccec061c  lubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso  after downloading from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/12.04/release/lubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[05:39] <tweak-daddy> that one worked, but the one I got here, two different times, does not: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu
[05:40] <tweak-daddy> thank you, Unit193. your link also shows the same MD5SUM reported on the website where I downloaded. Something with that link is not right.
[05:40] <Unit193> Sure thing, but what exact link did you use first?
[05:42] <tweak-daddy> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/precise/release/lubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[05:44] <Unit193> Hmmm... I got fca2034b89e8a0acd6536d41ccec061c off that one.
[05:48] <tweak-daddy> in that case something bizarre happened to my download, twice.  That is strange.
[05:48] <Unit193> If that happens, I recommend zsync.
[05:49] <Unit193> !zsync
[06:04] <tweak-daddy> thanks, ubottu, that does indeed look like a good program.
[06:24] <kanliot> I'd like to answer this question on the forum.  I know a little bit, but can someone give me the proper answer?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2062905  how do you autostart a program in Lubuntu?
[06:32] <jmarsden> kanliot: to autostart at logon, see the Lubutu FAQ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#How_I_can_autostart_a_program_when_logging_into_Desktop
[06:33] <jmarsden> If he truly needs "at boot", then you can hack /etc/rc.local or add an iniscript for the program of interest to turn it into a service, so that service is started at boot.
[06:36] <kanliot> thx jmarsden  but is this method less good?  it's whats confusing me: http://askubuntu.com/a/151946/21503
[06:52] <tweak-daddy> Seems a bit odd to me that the Lubuntu installer suggests that "You may wish to update this installer," when in fact it is the latest version which I just downloaded. I mean, are there a lot of changes in downloaders that don't get updated too quickly with the online links?
[06:57] <kanliot> 12.04?
[06:57] <kanliot> you'll be updating your system anyway
[06:58] <coder2> Hello. I have installed the OS on an AMD Fusion mobo. AMD propietaty driver was installed. There are two problems leftt: 60Hz  refresh rate on analog monitor and no sound  from analog output - I suspect that it use wrong default output. Please help.
[07:00] <kanliot>  monitor settings for first problem
[07:01] <kanliot> is this a laptop?
[07:01] <kanliot> i hate to send you to the audio troubleshooting
[07:04] <coder2> kanlot: Sorry, are you talked me? Concerning the problems: I have read the guides and have done a lot receipts, but no luck yet. For example: after installing pavucontrol applet it simple crashes. Old receipts for xorg.conf do not work anymore.
[07:05] <kanliot> do aplay -l from terminal, which card do you want to use
[07:05] <coder2> It is a desktop based on E-350 single board.
[07:06] <coder2> kanliot: I tried aplay: it shows HDMI, analog and digital outputs. I suspect that it prefers digital out instead of analog.
[07:07] <kanliot> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure#Step_17
[07:07] <kanliot> you can use aplay to play directly to whichever sound card you like
[07:08] <coder2> Even more, I suspect wrong pulse configuration, but pavucontrol crashes. Next thing to do for me is trying pacmd
[07:08] <kanliot> is pulseaudio running?
[07:08] <kanliot> pgrep -l pulseaudio
[07:09] <coder2> kanliot: unfortunately I haven't found any sound file on the fresh installed system
[07:09] <coder2> kanliot: yes, pulse is running
[07:09] <kanliot> if you look at the example, the same file should exist on your system
[07:10] <kanliot> can you run pavucontrol
[07:10] <kanliot> forget about aplay
[07:10] <kanliot> and download an audio file to test with
[07:11] <jmarsden> kanliot: re autostarting a program: the askubuntu way you found seems to me to be the same as the Lubuntu FAQ way (use ~/.config/autostart).  It is not truly "at boot", but "at logon".  If that is acceptable for what the user on the forums needs, then go for it.
[07:11] <coder2> kanliot: As I've already mentioned, pavucontrol crashes immediately.
[07:12] <kanliot> thx jmarsden
[07:13] <jmarsden> kanliot: You're welcome.  Sorry for the delay I am testing Ubuntu Server PPC Beta2 ISO and disconnected LAN from this machine to connect to PPC machine being tested... :)
[07:13] <kanliot> heheh you're too kind :)
[07:13] <coder2> Ok, thanks. I'm going to try your advices tomorrow.
[07:13] <coder2> Bye.
[09:11] <kodez> greetings
[09:12] <kanliot> sup
[09:13] <kodez> how to change lubuntu permissions by default to user not root?
[09:14] <kanliot> i need more info
[09:14] <kanliot> is this a file?
[09:14] <kodez> yes
[09:15] <kanliot> i don't understand what you want to do
[09:15] <kanliot> more background info plese
[09:16] <bioterror> !chmod
[09:16] <LuvLinuxOS> hi all
[09:16] <kodez> the file permission is set to root by default and i want to change it to the user
[09:16] <kanliot> hi
[09:18] <kanliot> use pcmanfm or
[09:18] <kanliot> !chown
[09:18] <kanliot> lol
[09:18] <kanliot> same 1
[09:21] <kodez> my laptop file permission is changed to root by default, i want to reverse this to be user not for certain files
[09:23] <kanliot> liek files in /
[09:23] <kanliot> ?
[09:23] <kanliot> or files you create when you are logged in
[09:25] <kodez> when i save a web page, the file permission will be root not user and this make the page want to execute than open it with a web browser
[09:25] <kodez> or when i copy a text file, it will be recognised as an executable file rather than a text file
[09:26] <kanliot> 2 problems
[09:26] <kanliot> how are you saving pages
[09:26] <kanliot> ?
[09:42] <leszek> hi
[11:06] <Steven_> Hello is anyone there?
[11:06] <Steven_> Hello?!
[11:07] <zleap> hello
[11:07] <zleap> sorry i am 1/2 here
[11:07] <Steven_> I need some advice
[11:08] <Steven_> I love Lubuntu but openbox does not offer the ability like compiz grid
[11:08] <zleap> ok
[11:09] <Steven_> I see there is pytyle but I think it only works with the keyboard
[11:09] <Steven_> Is there anyway I can get compiz grid without compiz?
[11:10] <Steven_> I'm been at this for a few hours but no good options
[11:10] <Steven_> I've*
[11:10] <Steven_> Any ideas?
[11:12] <Steven_> Compiz is major over kill just for the grid feature
[11:14] <Steven_> So are all the people in the panel to the right logged in to this chat?
[11:15] <Steven_> WildTux can you hear me?
[11:16] <kanliot> i'm in the matrix
[11:17] <Steven_> I'm kind of confused about the nature of this chat
[11:17] <Steven_> Why are all these people logged in but not talking?
[11:17] <kanliot> donno
[11:18] <kanliot> i been here for weeks most of them havent said a word
[11:18] <Steven_> rofl
[11:18] <Steven_> Wtf lol
[11:19] <Steven_> So what you guys just log on to this chat and leave it running for weeks?
[11:20] <kanliot> yeah
[11:24] <zleap> i am on several channels so end up chatting in one place,  but yeah i have said something on occasion and got no response
[11:25] <zleap> i have no idea on the compiz stuff
[11:25] <Steven_> hmm
[11:25] <zleap> esp as lubuntu seems to bind the windows super key to the lxde menu
[11:27] <Steven_> The other window managers like awesome are nothing like Windows or Os x... I just want to drag my window to one side of the screen and have it pop to fill that half the screen
[11:27] <Steven_> You know like Windows 7 snap feature
[11:27] <zleap> hmm
[11:28] <zleap> window maker has a icon bar or something i think
[11:28] <Steven_> Tried it but could not figure out how to get it to snap...
[11:37] <zleap> ok not sure off hand,  maybe it doesn't as such
[11:37] <zleap> there is something called docky which is more like er os x
[11:37]  * zleap tends to avoid windows
[11:41] <leszek> I am a little bit confused. Are you now talking about the aero snap like feature or about dock apps ?
[11:49] <kanliot> aero snap and he left
[11:50] <zleap> i think he wanted a similar feature in what ever distro / wm hes using
[13:33] <Ahmuck> last evening i was attemtping to set my default keyboard with help from this channel and this morning i am unable to log in
[13:33] <Ahmuck> in terminal mode i can, but at the gui login prompt i cannot
[13:34] <Ahmuck> i assume this has something to do with the lxkeymap for the gui session, but i do not know how to reset it
[13:34] <Ahmuck> to default.  any help will be appreciated as I have a class in 1.5 hrs
[14:06] <Ahmuck> how do i reset my lxkeyboard map?
[14:10] <leszek> rm ~/.config/lxkeymap.conf
[14:10] <leszek> Ahmuck: but what exactly is not working ? Wront keyboard layout set somewhere or so that you cannot login or does it crash or what happens exactly ?
[14:11] <Ahmuck> won't allow me to login via gui
[14:11] <Ahmuck> in terminal mode i can
[14:11] <Ahmuck> password works fine, but it's backwards sometimes in gui mode
[14:16] <Ahmuck> how do i see a history of my commands entered into the term.  i need to see what files i may have changed
[14:18] <Ahmuck> rm: cannot remove '/home/drbeams/config/lxkeymap.conf': no such file or directory
[14:20] <Ahmuck> once it was typing the password at the password prompt from right to left
[14:21] <Ahmuck> so the password is correct, but the entry is incorrect.
[14:21] <leszek> Ahmuck: lxkeymap is not able to change the global keyboard layout
[14:21] <leszek> so it can't affect the login screen
[14:21] <Ahmuck> last evening we were working with several files and i have forgotten what those were.  i do recall thinking to myself, ug, i hope when i reboot this works
[14:22] <Ahmuck> my problem i began with last evening was setting lxkeymap through the menu and upon reboot it i would have to reset it every time
[14:22] <Ahmuck> sooo ... how would i locate my terminal history
[14:23] <leszek> type in history
[14:24] <leszek> it shows you the terminal history
[14:24] <leszek> for global keyboard layout changes in X you either edited xorg.conf in /etc/X11 or /etc/default/keyboard
[14:27] <Ahmuck> in home directory rm .* would correct this?
[14:27] <leszek> no
[14:28] <leszek> please no
[14:28] <leszek> it would destroy everything
[14:31] <Ahmuck> k, so why would it work using an xterm session (F5) but not on the login prompt?
[14:32] <leszek> Ahmuck: I really don't know what you did yesterday
[14:32] <leszek> perhaps the login prompt is setting a special keyboard layout for you
[14:33] <Ahmuck> yes, that is what i was thinking.  but i'm wondering why, and how
[14:33] <Ahmuck> and where i would go to reset it
[14:34] <leszek> Ahmuck: it must be something in /etc/lxdm I guess
[14:37] <Ahmuck> k, so resorting to emergencyh proceedures, there is a file i need for a test on this computer ... i need to move it to usb, however usb does not exist in /media or in /mnt (as is should) ... how do i access the usb (as i used to in the good ol days
[14:41] <abc__> in 12.10 beta there is no option to automatic install amd official drivers, will it be possible in release?
[14:43] <bioterror> wrong channel
[14:43] <abc__> why? its lubuntu channel afaik
[14:44] <Ahmuck> bioterror: do you recall what we covered last evening?
[14:44] <Ahmuck> or 4 u may have been morning
[14:44] <bioterror> I think I was sitting in a toilet when you had this keyboard layout problem
[14:44] <bioterror> so it was morning :d
[14:44] <bioterror> abc__, becouse you're talking about beta
[14:45] <abc__> is there separete beta channel?
[14:45] <Ahmuck> ah great, no wonder my login has went to s*
[14:45] <bioterror> Wed17:45 Freenode :: #ubuntu+1(191): Welcome to #ubuntu+1, the channel for discussion of pre-release versions of Ubuntu. The next version of Ubuntu will be 12.10 with development codename Quantal Quetzal. | Beta1 Released http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.10/
[14:45] <bioterror> http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=416
[14:45] <abc__> okay, i thought it is lubuntu specific because in kubuntu i saw something about drivers
[14:47] <bioterror> Ahmuck, so did you edit your 10-evdev.conf?
[14:47] <Ahmuck> i don't even remember where it is
[14:48] <bioterror> Wed06:40*<bioterror> I have my xkblayout settings in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf
[14:48] <Ahmuck> k, found it
[14:48] <bioterror> to Section "InputClass"
[14:48] <Ahmuck> no
[14:48] <bioterror> you add:         Option "XkbLayout" "fi"
[14:49] <Ahmuck> there was some xk something that i did modify, put us in some file
[14:49] <bioterror> just replace "fi" "something-you-want"
[14:49] <Ahmuck> xblayout
[14:49] <Ahmuck> xboptions
[14:49] <Ahmuck> etc.
[14:49] <Ahmuck> but i don't recall the file
[14:49] <bioterror> why would you add something like that, as this is the correct way to tell Xorg what you want to be your keyboard layout
[14:49] <Ahmuck> gtg, test is now
[14:49] <Ahmuck> cause someone suggested it
[14:49] <Ahmuck> l8r
[14:49] <bioterror> someone is wrong!
[14:51] <leszek> xD
[16:03] <Ahmuck> k, back
[16:03] <Ahmuck> flunked the test
[16:03] <Ahmuck> *shrug*
[16:04] <Ahmuck> anywho, so bioterror es posible we can find out what is causing the problem
[16:05] <Ahmuck> where is the channel log?
[16:05] <Ahmuck> i can look at that and find out what i did
[16:06] <holstein> Ahmuck: lemme search
[16:06] <holstein> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/09/26/%23lubuntu.txt
[16:07] <holstein> i get there from drilling down through http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[16:12] <Ahmuck> [03:06] <kanliot> arabic, right? [03:06] <kanliot> can you edit /etc/default/keyboard [03:06] <kanliot> and change XKBLAYOUT to [03:06] <kanliot> "ar" [03:07] <kanliot> not sure if it will work ahmuck
[16:12] <Ahmuck> heh, found the problem
[16:12] <Ahmuck> AR for keyboard layout
[16:12] <Ahmuck> kanloit assumed I was arabic, I assume from my nick
[16:13] <holstein> Ahmuck: i read it more as a question than an assumption... regardless...
[16:13] <Ahmuck> a question waits for a response
[16:14] <Ahmuck> is us the default keyboard layout?
[16:17] <Ahmuck> well, no matter i must move on.
[16:17] <Ahmuck> l8r
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