[21:36] <mrwes> Zencyde, blkid from a terminal gives you uuid
[21:36] <sysusb> Zencyde: labels are simpler, and simpler still is to use device files (though you have to change lotsa stuff to make kernel update not break grub)
[21:36] <CaneToad> jarco, anything special/unique about your mouse & kbd?
[21:36] <Zencyde> Ah, wonderful.
[21:36] <Zencyde> :)
[21:36] <Guest96511> Hey, how to turn off Wifi fron console?
[21:37] <mrwes> :)
[21:37] <matyk>  Erm was trying to play with ubuntu but all its done is piss me off first 9.04 wudnt play with my grahpics card so i revent to another grahpics card it worked GREAT! installed it Error 22 or error 2 coming from grub now i cant get back to windows nor ubuntu
[21:37] <riso> evening all
[21:37] <matyk>  whats better fixing windows or ubuntu you decide
[21:37] <riso> i have installed ubuntu on a dell d400 laptop
[21:37] <jarco> CaneToad: not really. They worked on olderlinuxes and they are working on the live cd an on windows. just a ps/2 keyboard and a usb mouse. Also i tried detaching all usb that didnt work either
[21:38] <ZykoticK9> Guest96511, perhaps "sudo ifconfig wlan0 down" might work ?
[21:38] <sysusb> nobody knows where the ubuntu installer disk gets its startup data from? (the menu choice defaults?)
[21:38] <riso> it all works... appart from, i believe that the graphics is not working correctly
[21:38] <riso> it has an intel card
[21:38] <riso> and im not sure how to get the drivers and how to install it either
[21:38] <riso> any ideas?
[21:38] <guntbert> !enter | riso
[21:38] <abhiSri> how to edit the startup programs in ubuntu??
[21:39] <hatter243> !startup | abhiSri
[21:39] <mrwes> heh..tough to follow with each line separated by 15 others :)
[21:39] <dadrock> Can any one help me with wammu , it sucks man or sumone knows substitute for it for ubuntu?
[21:39] <Guest96511> ZykoticK9: thnx
[21:40] <Snowshoe>
[21:40] <Snowshoe>
[21:40] <Snowshoe>
[21:40] <Snowshoe>
[21:40] <Snowshoe>
[21:40] <FloodBot2> Snowshoe: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:40] <abhiSri> ubottu, but how to remove them from startup, like in my system lots of servers like mail server starts at time of booting how to remove them to load at startup
[21:40] <nofx-punk> who can help me with genius easy pen tablet cm?
[21:40] <Snowshoe> how could this happen to me
[21:41] <mrwes> riso, open and terminal and type lspci | grep VGA   so we can see what kind of card you have
[21:41] <abhiSri>  but how to remove them from startup, like in my system lots of servers like mail server starts at time of booting how to remove them to load at startup
[21:41] <Zencyde> Okay, trying to reboot. Wish me luck!
[21:41] <riso> mrwes, ok, 1 sec
[21:41] <guntbert> Snowshoe: kept a finger on <enter> ? :-)
[21:41] <jerome_> join #ubuntu-fr
[21:41] <mrwes> abhiSri, Sytstem | Admin | Services
[21:41] <riso> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
[21:42] <guntbert> !ask > nofx-punk
[21:42] <Snowshoe>
[21:42] <Snowshoe>
[21:42] <Snowshoe>
[21:42] <Snowshoe>
[21:42] <Snowshoe>
[21:42] <FloodBot2> Snowshoe: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:42] <abhiSri> mrwes, taanks, can you tell me which specific files it uses
[21:42] <mrwes> Riso: ok, is this a fresh install? If so, have you enabled all software sources?
[21:42] <riso> its a fresh install mrwes
[21:42] <riso> i think so
[21:43] <mrwes> Riso: check System |
[21:43] <Snowshoe> :(
[21:43] <mrwes> Riso: check System |  Admin | Software Sources and enable third party sources
[21:43] <jarco> hello. After finnally getting my new ubuntu 9.04 to boot my mouse and keyboard do not zork.The keyboard works when i am in grub but when i have to login it doesnt work anymore.... Any help?
[21:43] <ruler> can i hide the particular folder
[21:43] <Snowshoe> SOOOOOOOOOOO
[21:43] <Snowshoe> do
[21:43] <Snowshoe> you like
[21:43] <FloodBot2> Snowshoe: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:44] <riso> mrwes, done
[21:44] <Snowshoe> rainbows?
[21:44] <SamWatkins> someone ban Snowshoe?
[21:44] <LjL> !offtopic | Snowshoe
[21:44] <Snowshoe> thx
[21:44] <SamWatkins> I'd say five lines of ????? is pretty !@#$ offtopic for anywhere
[21:44] <Snowshoe> wait
[21:44] <mrwes> Riso: you install Jaunty? 9.04?
[21:44] <LinuxMoogle> cool
[21:45] <n00b871> I need to design a logo and am new to gimp, does anyone know where I can get designer fonts for ubuntu? like a package of all the best ones or something? I tried synaptic but did not see any
[21:45] <riso> mrwes, yes
[21:46] <riso> i now have lots of updates showing
[21:46] <n00b871> ubotu !fonts
[21:46] <ruler> how to hide  folder
[21:46] <joker_> where do I setup the files apache is looking for in ubuntu? (index.php) - I just installed php5 and php files arent handled by the server (theyre handed for download)...
[21:46] <riso> but none for intel
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> ruler: put a '.' at the start of its name
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> ruler: e.g.   mv ~/test ~/.test
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> ruler: assuming the folder test is the folder to hide
[21:47] <hudnix> argh! even after "rm -rf ~/.cpan", "install Padre" just gives "Padre is up to date"
[21:47] <riso> mrwes, any idea?
[21:48] <mrwes> Riso: there have been several issues with Intel cards in Jaunty --- I'm looking :)
[21:48] <jarco> hello. After finnally getting my new ubuntu 9.04 to boot my mouse and keyboard do not zork.The keyboard works when i am in grub but when i have to login it doesnt work anymore.... Any help?
[21:48] <Zencyde> So..... I think it's broken. :(
[21:48] <ruler> actionparsnip: then how can i view it
[21:48] <riso> mrwes, ok thanks
[21:48] <ZykoticK9> ruler, ls -a
[21:48] <Zencyde> Also, someone sent me a link earlier. I forgot to e-mail it to myself. Could you please send it again?
[21:48] <mrwes> Riso: you have low resolutions, or things are just slow?
[21:48] <guntbert> n00b871: that seems to off topic *here*, but ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> ruler: you can see ALL hidden folders with   ls -a
[21:48] <abdelmanem> hello every body
[21:48] <abdelmanem> i missed u all
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> ruler: or I think its shift + . in nautilus etc
[21:49] <n00b871> guntbert: ok thanks i just found they have a channel for #gimp
[21:49] <ZykoticK9> ruler, ActionParsnip nautilus ctrl+h to view hidden files
[21:49] <nofx-punk> how to install xserver-xorg-input-summa on ubuntu 9.04?
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> ZykoticK9: was a guess, natilus sucks imho
[21:49] <guntbert> n00b871: happy designing :)
[21:50] <Untouchab1e> hi all
[21:50] <Untouchab1e> running Ubuntu 9.04 and having problems installing themes
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> !themes | Untouchab1e
[21:50] <Zencyde> What would you prefer to Nautilus? :)
[21:51] <Untouchab1e> I downloaded several themes where I had to manually copy them to the ~/.themes folder, but they wont show up in the "Apperance" feature
[21:51] <blind> Is there a way to limit my max download speed? I'm sharing someone's internet and feel bad when I'm downloading a large file, it shoots up and hogs the bandwidth
[21:51] <riso> mrwes, it seems ok, just a big screen, so having to scroll around a lot
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> Zencyde: cli
[21:51] <ZykoticK9> Untouchab1e, there are many different types of themes under linux - what are you trying to theme, and where are you getting the files from?
[21:51] <Untouchab1e> This one for example: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/MacOS-X+Aqua+Theme?content=13548
[21:52] <root_> exsit
[21:52] <root_> exit
[21:52] <root_> oops
[21:52] <Zencyde> Eh, I feel there are some situations that are better for GUI and some that are better for CLI.
[21:52] <riso> mrwes, and when i enable the flashy effects, it gets very jumpy
[21:52] <Zencyde> Like opening files with root privileges. Much easier in CLI.
[21:52] <ruler> i created a folder ..masilamani in the the deaktop but i cant able to delete it]
[21:52] <mrwes> Riso: turn off visual effects for now, and take a look at System | Prefs | Display and see if you can adjust your resolutions
[21:52] <Untouchab1e> Any ideas?
[21:52] <ZykoticK9> Untouchab1e, is your ~/.themes to you see a MACOS-X or similar subfolder?
[21:53] <Untouchab1e> indeed I do
[21:53] <DasEi> !grub > Zencyde
[21:53] <riso> mrwes, i cant adjust the display to anything more
[21:53] <Untouchab1e> because I copied it there
[21:53] <riso> im wondering if this is it to be honest
[21:53] <riso> its a small screen
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> Zencyde: i use nearly pure cli, its quick and easy
[21:53] <Untouchab1e> its actually present in both ~/.themes and in /usr/share/themes
[21:53] <System404> whats a good newsgroups program for ubuntu
[21:53] <ruler>  i created a folder ..masilamani in the the deaktop but i cant able to delete it]
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> Zencyde: moving and renaming apps in a file browser is fairly redundant to me
[21:53] <guntbert> !ot > ActionParsnip
[21:54] <Zencyde> Eh, I guess there are just some tricks I haven't learned or adapted to yet in CLI. LIke making temporary folder and moving massive amounts of files all at once. :o
[21:54] <Untouchab1e> Ive also installed several theme package files through the Apprerance feature too, but not all of them shows up either
[21:54] <ruler>  i created a folder ..masilamani in the the deaktop but i cant able to delete it]
[21:54] <Kalmi> Question: when I go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community I don't see a tab for newer releases, why?
[21:54] <mrwes> Riso: there are several work arounds, some easy, and some not so easy
[21:54] <mekan> Can anyone help me with an undelete-able file?
[21:54] <mrwes> Riso: try reading here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582&highlight=Intel+Corporation+82852%2F855GM+Integrated+Graphics+Device+(rev+02)
[21:54] <djones> System404: Have a look at Pan for newsgroup access
[21:54] <Kalmi> mekan, have you tried deleteing it as root?
[21:54] <thomrenault> what's the package name for alsa mixer
[21:54] <guntbert> !repeat | ruler
[21:54] <jarco> hello. After finnally getting my new ubuntu 9.04 to boot my mouse and keyboard do not zork.The keyboard works when i am in grub but when i have to login it doesnt work anymore.... Any help?
[21:54] <System404> thanks djones
[21:54] <Untouchab1e> or.. they do show up in the Customize Theme window.. but not in the "Theme" tab..
[21:55] <ZykoticK9> Untouchab1e, that's a theme from 2004 perhaps it's no longer compatible?  dunno - good luck.
[21:55] <Kalmi> jarco, what kind of keyboard is it? usb?
[21:55] <Gain> hi, I noticed when I installed 9.04 my NTFS drive was visible, can I access/modify files safely?
[21:55] <Untouchab1e> hmm.. maybe..
[21:55] <Gain> never saw this in previous versions of Ubuntu
[21:55] <mrwes> Riso: there are a couple of fixes on that web page that should help improve performance in that intel card
[21:55] <Kalmi> Gain, yes
[21:55] <ruler> guntberi : i crete a folder it name has two fullstop at the begining but i cant delete it
[21:55] <jarco> Kalmi: no ps. the mouse is usb but itried dissconnecting it
[21:56] <Kalmi> jarco, have you tried switching to a tty? does that work?
[21:56] <Kalmi> !tty > jarco
[21:57] <guntbert> ruler: open a terminal window
[21:57] <jarco> Kalmi: i tried that. It didnt work. Also even the numlock licht doesnt turn on. Mouse also doesnt move. Still the cursor is flashing
[21:58] <ruler> guntberi i opened
[21:58] <thebluecasket> hey. is there an equivalent to ~/.profile for sudo command? I wanna setup some aliases for sudo.
[21:58] <guntbert> !tab | ruler
[21:58] <guntbert> ruler: now type cd Desktop
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> thebluecasket: put them in ~/.bashrc
[21:58] <palantbon> hi there
[21:58] <Kalmi> !hi | palantbon
[21:59] <mrwes> hey ActionParsnip o/
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> mrwes: howdy
[21:59] <palantbon> just trying out ubuntu for the first time
[21:59] <mrwes> ActionParsnip, you on Karmic yet?
[21:59] <Kalmi> jarco, do they work with the livecd?
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> mrwes: no, its not in beta yet
[21:59] <ruler> guntberi : i have type !tab in a single line
[21:59] <mrwes> heh :)
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> mrwes: might whack it in a vbox though
[22:00] <jarco> yes Kalmi i am using it right now
[22:00] <blz> I just downloaded an ubuntu sound scheme in tar.gz format... how do i go about installing it?
[22:00] <Kalmi> odd... Could you try disabling "USB Legacy Support" in the BIOS?
[22:00] <Kalmi> jarco
[22:00] <guntbert> ruler: no, I wanted you to use <tab> here in the channel to autocomplete nick names, try gun<tab> :-)
[22:01] <neurobuntu> is it possible to list all packages that depend on a certain package? I want to install a custom version of package X can I list all packages that depend on X?
[22:01] <jarco> will tyry that right away Kalmi
[22:01] <guntbert> ruler: did you cd Desktop ?
[22:01] <mrwes> ActionParsnip, got it running on my laptop -- has the usual daily problems, one day no sound, the next day sound is fixed
[22:02] <elli222> Hello
[22:02] <ruler> if i use tab it is showing display all 2230 possibility y or no
[22:02] <joker_> I dont get it. Module "dir" is enabled, index.php is in DirectoryIndex, but if I type a subdirectory within my domain, apache hands me an "application/x-trash" file instead of the php page...
[22:02] <Chuwiey> can anyone help with apache perhaps?
[22:02] <neurobuntu> !ask | Chuwiey
[22:02] <mekan> I am unable to delete a duplicate of the file extlinux.sys housed on a second partition. Can anyone tell me how?
[22:02] <guntbert> ruler:  leave tab alone for now, it was meant for the channel, did you cd Desktop?
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> mrwes: i need a chuckle, downloading now
[22:02] <elli222> i remember there was this program that would make a little cat chase my X cursor, anyone know what it was called? ( I think it's in the repo's )
[22:03] <mrwes> ActionParsnip, yah...and DVD's don't mount -- some unknown Hal error :)
[22:03] <Trijntje> can anybody help me with some xorg/compiz keybinding problems?
[22:03] <mrwes> I reported that one
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> mrwes: try moonos too :) LXDE based ubuntu system
[22:03] <ruler> guntberi i type cd desktop in terminal it is showing no such file or directory
[22:04] <guntbert> !anyone | Trijntje
[22:04] <ZykoticK9> ruler, cd Desktop
[22:04] <guntbert> ruler: its Desktop, not desktop
[22:04] <ruler> guntberi it accepted and showing
[22:04] <ZykoticK9> elli222, oneko
[22:04] <guntbert> ruler: type ls -a, does your .. folder show?
[22:05] <blz> how do i install a sound theme in ubuntu 9.04?
[22:05] <stew> neurobuntu: do you need all packages depending on a certain package?  or all installed pacakges depending on a certain package?
[22:05] <elli222> thanks :)
[22:05] <Kalmi> when I go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community I don't see a tab for newer Ubuntu releases, why?
[22:06] <Trijntje> As far as i understand my own problem Xorg is sending some mouse events to the open window instead of to compiz. Does anybody know how to fix this?
[22:06] <ruler> guntberi:it is not showing the folder name but the folder data in blue colour
[22:06] <neurobuntu> stew, all the packages that depend on a certain package
[22:06] <Desen> hey kids. any ideas why i cannot access my mp3 player (its a non-apple product) ? its default attributes: read only. tried with SUDO THUNAR (i`m using XFCE on ) but still cannot copy any song from HDD > MP3
[22:06] <stew> neurobuntu: "apt-cache rdepends pacakgename" or "aptitude search '~Rpackagename'"
[22:07] <neurobuntu> stew, thank you
[22:07] <Desen> any link is welcome
[22:07] <ruler> guntberi:it is not showing the folder name but the folder data in blue colour
[22:07] <guntbert> ruler: what do yo mena with "folder data"?
[22:07] <LaMs> Desen: You just wrote it's read only ... so you can't write to it ...
[22:08] <CJJ_> Could someone tell me how to change my username/password login for ubuntu please im selling my laptop and they wanna keep ubuntu but with a different name
[22:08] <stew> neurobuntu: err, that should be ~D not ~R
[22:08] <Desen> LaMs so i should throu it out on the window ?
[22:08] <Desen> throw *
[22:08] <ruler> guntberi : it shows the songs only not folder name
[22:08] <noname3000> Wireless no longer works on my laptop running intrepid.  dmesg contains "Radio disabled by HW RF Kill switch", which on this X61s Thinkpad is Fn-F2.  Unfortunately, pressing Fn-F2 does not appear to do anything.  iwlist wlan0 scan returns "No scan results", though another Ubuntu box on the same desk can see dozens of wireless nets.
[22:08] <Kalmi> !users | CJJ_
[22:08] <Kalmi> CJJ_, make sure you give them admin rights
[22:09] <LaMs> Desen: No... Whats the exact problem ? You said it's in read only... then set it back to read/write
[22:09] <razerblk> hello forum !!!!
[22:09] <guntbert> ruler: please paste the output of pwd
[22:09] <joker_> Can anyone tell me why I'm getting an "application/-xtrash" instead fo the website : http://<IP_ADDRESS>/maibec
[22:09] <ruler> .
[22:09] <ruler> ..
[22:09] <ruler> Batman.Begins[2005]DVDrip.h264.[Eng]-phrax.torrent
[22:09] <ruler> TamilBeat.Com - Manjasela Manda.mp3
[22:09] <ruler> TamilBeat.Com - Pattuchaa Pattu.mp3
[22:09] <FloodBot2> ruler: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:09] <ruler> TamilBeat.Com - Pelican Paravai.mp3
[22:10] <Kalmi> :D
[22:10] <Desen> LaMs i`ve opened the mounted MP3 Player with SUDO THUNAR and i cannot change the permission from Read Only > Read & Write. i get this error: "Read-only file system."
[22:10] <Kalmi> joker_, it's the website's fault... wrong mime type
[22:10] <thedude420> can somebody help me with a sound problem im having. no sound through HDMI, Asus 9600 GT
[22:10] <guntbert> ruler:  *NOT* that, just the output of pwd please!!!!
[22:10] <Kalmi> !sound | thedude420
[22:10] <ZykoticK9> Desen, you need to remount the MP3 player read/write instead for read only
[22:10] <joker_> Kalmi: how do I set that? It's fresh installed apache server
[22:11]  * TuxToaster has decided he dislikes the Dell Optiplex GX260.... it doesn't like PCI video cards at all.
[22:11] <TuxToaster> spent 3 days trying to figure out why Jaunty, then ANY distro wouldn't boot on it... that's why.
[22:11] <Kalmi> joker_, are you using .htaccess files?
[22:11] <Desen> ZykoticK9 a link how i can do that, please ?
[22:11] <CJJ_> Kalmi lets hope i didnt mess up :)
[22:11] <LaMs> Desen: When you just plugged it in, it did not mount automatically as a Read/Write device ?
[22:12] <ZykoticK9> thedude420, i don't think your graphics card forwards sound for HDMI
[22:12] <Chuwiey> Can i apt-install a different apache-mpm module without rebuilding apache in jaunty?
[22:12] <joker_> not at the moment, as I just installed that server (it's a dev server). I just found a file called /etc/mime.types
[22:12] <Kalmi> CJJ_, make sure you remove all your personal files... there are also a lot of hidden files in your home directory
[22:12] <guntbert> ruler: please get someone else for further assistance, I gotta leave
[22:12] <thedude420> ZykoticK9 - works in win7, win server2k8 and vista
[22:12] <CJJ_> Kalmi i deleted myself as a user and it still allowed me to log in
[22:12] <joker_> Kalmi: not at the moment, as I just installed that server (it's a dev server). I just found a file called /etc/mime.types
[22:13] <noname3000> Wireless no longer works on my laptop running intrepid.  dmesg contains "Radio disabled by HW RF Kill switch", which on this X61s Thinkpad is Fn-F2.  Unfortunately, pressing Fn-F2 does not appear to do anything.  iwlist wlan0 scan returns "No scan results", though another Ubuntu box on the same desk can see dozens of wireless nets.  Any help would be appreciated.
[22:13] <Kalmi> CJJ_, that's odd... do you still have your files?
[22:13] <Desen> Lams, Zykotick9 when it mounts itself, it has Read & Write attributes for my name (which i use to log in in Ubuntu) but for "root" it's "Read Only" ... lol
[22:13] <CJJ_> not sure
[22:13] <joker_> Kalmi: I found that entry in the said file: application/x-httpd-php                         phtml pht php
[22:13] <joker_> Kalmi: sounds good to me...
[22:14] <Kalmi>  cat /var/www/.htaccess
[22:14] <krisss117> #ubuntu.pl
[22:14] <matyk> gr ubuntu wudnt get lost kept clearing the mbr n putting the old one back but darn grub was still there finaly got back into windows then it bluescreened :@
[22:14] <LaMs> Desen: Then why do you want to be root ? I'm confuse ...
[22:14] <joker_> Kalmi: the file doesnt exists
[22:14] <ruler> i created a folder with two fullstop but i cant able to delete it please help me
[22:15] <ZykoticK9> ruler, "two fullstop" ?
[22:15] <Kalmi> joker_, have you googled that trash thingy?
[22:15] <iamtechno> ruler, rm -rf <foldername>
[22:15] <LaMs> ruler: fullstop ?
[22:16] <rob0917> videos on flash player in firefox are choppy in full screen mode but are ok in the default sized window.is there anyway to improve this in the full screen?
[22:16] <joker_> Kalmi: yup, giving me some things about some Mac OS x... wich is kind of funny but thats an other story
[22:16] <ruler> zykoticks that means .
[22:16] <iamtechno> rob0917, what vid card/driver setup do you have?
[22:16] <Kalmi> joker_, sorry... i have no idea
[22:16] <joker_> Kalmi: me neither
[22:16] <ruler> LaMs ..
[22:17] <rob0917> intel intregrated 945g I think
[22:17] <ZykoticK9> ruler, every directory has a . and a .. directory - you can't delete them
[22:17] <rob0917> 3-d effects work fine
[22:17] <joker_> Kalmi: guess what. I restarted apache, withtout makinf any furter changes. It works.
[22:17] <iamtechno> rob0917, Okay what version of ubuntu are you running?
[22:17] <joker_> Kalmi: god knows what happens :/
[22:17] <rob0917> 9.04
[22:17] <joker_> *happend
[22:18] <ruler> zykotics can i hide it
[22:18] <riso> anyone know how i can find out what display driver i am currently using?
[22:18] <lea> hola a todos!!!
[22:18] <ZykoticK9> ruler, nope it's part of unix-world so you can "cd .." to go up a directory level
[22:18] <rob0917> i have the flash player from the adobe website installed
[22:18] <eseven73> !es | lea
[22:19] <Kalmi> joker_, I don't think god knows either...
[22:19] <Chuwiey> Can i apt-install a different apache-mpm module without rebuilding apache in jaunty?
[22:19] <riso> ahoj!
[22:19] <thedude420> anybody know how i can get my internal S/PDIF to output sound?
[22:19] <lea> helo!!! ahyone speak spanish??????????
[22:19] <riso> no lea, this is the english help channel
[22:19] <ruler> zykotocks :k  please to tell how to hide a folder
[22:19] <Kalmi> !spanish | lea
[22:19] <LaMs> Desen: Is it really saying mount as read-only ? If you do "mount" alone, what is the output for your mp3 ?
[22:20] <ruler> zykoticks :k  please to tell how to hide a folder
[22:20] <joker_> Kalmi: aight, thanks. Now lets head to the next problem: mysql :) brb once I googled for an hour or so ;)
[22:20] <ZykoticK9> ruler, to "hide" a folder simple rename it with a period infront of the name, so folder becomes .folder then it's hidden
[22:20] <lea> ok ok thanks!!!!!!! bye bye
[22:20] <riso> anyone know how i can find out what display driver i am currently using?
[22:21] <Desen> LaMs: i am going to screenshot the attributes and the error i receive. 2 minutes please
[22:21] <hatter243> riso, echo $DISPLAY
[22:21] <LaMs> ok
[22:21] <ninja> olá
[22:21] <ruler> then how can i see it
[22:21] <ZykoticK9> riso, glxinfo might help you
[22:21] <hatter243> riso, Hah! Sorry, I completely missed the word "driver"
[22:21] <iamtechno> riso, try glxinfo | grep vendor
[22:22] <ZykoticK9> hatter243, "echo $DISPLAY" shows you what X display you are connected too FYI
[22:22] <riso> hmm
[22:22] <hatter243> ZykoticK9, yeah, I know. I thought he asked how to figure out which display he was currently using not which display driver
[22:22] <riso> so it appears im not using the intel driver
[22:23] <elitecoder> I have a BUNCH of ip route commands to run, Is it best I create hook files in /etc/dhcp3/ ? or add them to /etc/network/interfaces?
[22:23] <riso> anyone able to advise how i can install the intel driver for my laptop?
[22:23] <b0r3d> how are ncsa_users identified?
[22:23] <lea> sorry, how can i go to a spanish chanel???
[22:23] <b0r3d> acl ncsa_users proxy_auth REQUIRED
[22:23] <iamtechno> lea /join #channelname
[22:23] <b0r3d> how to authenticate now.. squid isn't allowing me
[22:23] <hatter243> !spanish | lea
[22:24] <ruler> please tall how to hide a folder and ahow make visible it
[22:24] <riso> anyone able to advise how i can install the intel driver for my laptop?
[22:25] <iamtechno> rob0917, try installing the flashplugin-nonfree package, I haven't had any bad luck with it.
[22:25] <rob0917> ok thanks I'll try that
[22:26] <ruler> tell how to hide  a folder  and how to mae visible it
[22:27] <rob0917> ruler ,put a dot before the filename .
[22:27] <ruler> if want remove then the hidden file means
[22:27] <ruler> rob0917 if i want to remove hidden file means
[22:28] <rob0917> thats beyond me sorry
[22:28] <iamtechno> ruler, rm -rf <filename> regardless of whether it is hidden or not.
[22:28] <mitkotaichi> hi
[22:28] <riso> anyone able to advise how i can install the intel driver for my laptop?
[22:29] <mrwes> iamtechno, why use the -f force?
[22:29] <intx> [    2.969002] sd 1:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: disabled,  -- it's for an intel MLC ZIF based SSD -- how do I enable write caching?
[22:29] <mrwes> sigh
[22:29] <Kalmi> riso, what intel driver?
[22:29] <ruler> i amtechne : ia cant understand what are you telling
[22:29] <ZykoticK9> iamtechno, rm -r is a dangerous command! you shouldn't use -r except with directories it's for recursive meaning everything below that level...
[22:29] <riso> urm
[22:29] <riso> im not sure kal0
[22:29] <riso> Kalmi,
[22:29] <mitkotaichi> bb
[22:30] <Kalmi> riso, why do need to install a driver?
[22:30] <iamtechno> ZykoticK9, yeah your right I was thinking it was a folder for some reason
[22:30] <riso> because i believe it will increase window responsiveness
[22:31] <mrwes> riso: did you read the web page I gave you? There are good instructions on changing the acceration to UXA
[22:31] <iamtechno> mrwes, I have just made it a habit becasue other wise Ubuntu asks "Are you sure you want to delete this file?" and when you're deleting a bunch of files it is a real pain.
[22:31] <ruler> i am techno : thans
[22:31] <iamtechno> ruler, did you get it figured out?
[22:31] <Kalmi> riso, intel video cards should work just fine.... you could try disabling desktop effects...
[22:31] <riso> sorry mrwes i missed the webpage
[22:32] <riso> would you mind posting it again
[22:32] <mrwes> riso...sigh....
[22:32] <iamtechno> !enter | riso
[22:32] <riso> mrwes, sorry dude
 Riso: try reading here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582&highlight=Intel+Corporation+82852%2F855GM+Integrated+Graphics+Device+(rev+02)
[22:33] <rob0917> if compiz is disabled,would that improve performance of flash player?
[22:33] <iamtechno> mrwes, wouldn't changing it to UXA just make it worse in the long run? I have read that UXA is REALLY buggy?
[22:33] <Kalmi> rob0917, yes
[22:33] <Kalmi> rob0917, try
[22:33] <iamtechno> rob0917, Yeah it might. especially on an older GPU
[22:33] <rob0917> cool.thanks
[22:34] <mrwes> iamtechno, well. there are some success stories for his card....
[22:34] <hansolo669> hello
[22:34] <mrwes> iamtechno, it's either that, or live with what he has now
[22:34] <iamtechno> mrwes, Okay just thought I'd suggest the more stable option
[22:34] <mrwes> iamtechno, please chime in brutha
[22:35] <rob0917> is there a way to switch compiz on and off easily?
[22:35] <mrwes> rob0917, fusion-icon for compiz
[22:35] <rob0917> thanks again
[22:35] <hansolo669> or fusion wideget
[22:35] <ZykoticK9> rob0917, System / Preferences / Appearance - Visual Effects tab and "None"
[22:36] <hansolo669> hey my ethernet port on my t41 think pad dosnt work
[22:36] <iamtechno> mrwes, I would use ZykoticK9 option first. I am using fusion-icon and am have some issues with it
[22:36] <alienkid10> I am following this: http://myhowtosandprojects.blogspot.com/2008/06/custom-live-cd-ubuntu-804-desktop.html tutorial and finished it but now how do I unmount the squashfs filesystem and the isomount disc images? I think rsync is still using them. How can I stop it?
[22:36] <sjzzalx> Hello. Suppose I have different usernames on a couple of machines. If I generate a keypair for key authentication on one machine where my username is something and want to use that to log in to a mcahine where my user name is somethingelse, can I do that? I ask because I see that authorized_keys contains my username and hostname after the key, and I also see that key authentication is not working.
[22:37] <hansolo669> iamtechno yah fusion icon is buggy
[22:37] <mrwes> System / Preferences / Appearance - Visual Effects tab and "None"  <--- yep, that works everytime :)
[22:37] <hansolo669> mrwes agreed...well sorta
[22:38] <mrwes> heh
[22:38] <hansolo669> ya
[22:38] <hansolo669> ?
[22:39] <Sync08> hi all
[22:39] <alienkid10> I am following this: http://myhowtosandprojects.blogspot.com/2008/06/custom-live-cd-ubuntu-804-desktop.html tutorial and finished it but now how do I unmount the squashfs filesystem and the isomount disc images? I think rsync is still using them. How can I stop it?
[22:39] <robbon33> hello
[22:39] <Sync08> does anyone knows a tool repair a corrupted RAR archive file in linux?
[22:39] <elitecoder> I have a BUNCH of ip route commands to run, Is it best I create hook files in /etc/dhcp3/ ? or add them to /etc/network/interfaces?
[22:39] <robbon33> i have a problem with evolution
[22:40] <hansolo669> mrwes--i find that using alt f2 then compiz replace works best
[22:40] <robbon33> it doesn't download my mail
[22:40] <robbon33> just 2 emails
[22:40] <robbon33> the rest it doesn't download
[22:40] <hansolo669> thats compiz-- replace
[22:40] <robbon33> :/
[22:40] <hansolo669> btw
[22:40] <iamtechno> rob0917, Try disabling compiz first using mrwes's method and see it it does any better. My experience with compiz is that unless you have middle to topend GPU, compiz really take a bite out of video performance.
[22:40] <alienkid10> anyone?
[22:40] <ZykoticK9> hansolo669, actually i think it's "compiz --replace"
[22:40] <iamtechno> !enter | robbon33
[22:41] <robbon33> i'm sorry
[22:41] <hansolo669> ZykoticK9--ya my bad
[22:41] <Erler> Anyone else tried the Netbook Remix?
[22:41] <mrwes> iamtechno, agreed, I don't use compiz -- my laptop is faster without it
[22:41] <rob0917> ok,thank you
[22:41] <hansolo669> robbon33--try changing your connection settings, for your email
[22:41] <ZykoticK9> Erler, i got MBR on my EEE what's up?
[22:41] <robbon33> thanks
[22:41] <thegve> Good evening. Yesterday my HD crashed (laptop running for 10 minutes, typed in my username, pressed enter, X going wild, reboot, no hard drive detected), so I figured it was time to reinstall Ubuntu on a new HD. It did that this morning using the 32bit CD, but accidently I forgot the laptop has 4GB of memory and I would only be able to address 3.3 of that this way. Trying the amd64 ISO, the installer crashes after pressing enter on "install".
[22:42] <thegve> I already tried the noapic and nolapic options.
[22:42] <Erler> Is your netbook single or duel core?
[22:42] <robbon33> the strange thing is that, it downloads some mail
[22:42] <mihalis> Does anybody know if apparmor project is abandoned since cowan's leave
[22:42] <robbon33> but the rest not, now i will try to change the port
[22:42] <hansolo669> robbon33--ok try that
[22:42] <Erler> zykoticK: I bought an atom 230, windows showed as 1 core, I installed ubuntu, it now shows duel core atom 270
[22:42] <IRConan> if I just did an upgrade with a ppa and wanted to revert it how hard would it be?
[22:42] <RyanPrice> Does anyone have any experience with TVTime or MythTV?
[22:42] <hansolo669> thegve--sounds like a bad cd
[22:42] <antonius602> ubuntu is the only distro where alt ctrl backspace TURNS OFF the computer...like pulling the plug....hilarious...can NEVER figure this one out...any one else heard of such nonsense?
[22:43] <Kalmi> IRConan, uninstall, install
[22:43] <sjzzalx> IRConan: Depending on various factors, it could be easy or it could be hard
[22:43] <TeenySHAD0W> Having a problem w ubuntu netbook edition; the top panel disappears when i reboot or relogon.  Switching to classic and back to netbook remix desktop makes it reappear.
[22:43] <TeenySHAD0W> Can someone help?
[22:43] <sjzzalx> antonius602: Ubuntu doesn't do that for me, you have a serious problem with your setup
[22:43] <thegve> hansolo669, the ISO md5sum is ok..  I think rsync is still using them. How can I stop it? Should I just reboot?
[22:45] <antonius602> it's done it with every version since 8.04
[22:45] <thegve> I burned it at home, meaning the CD was from a spindle I bought "some years ago"... So it is quite possible.
[22:45] <iamtechno> !language | Veinor
[22:45] <antonius602> and...every other distro i try doesn't do this....hmm  oh well...don't use ubuntu as primary os anymore, so it's no biggie...just wonderin'
[22:45] <mihalis> Is there any  security expert ?
[22:45] <hansolo669> thegve--ya thtel do it
[22:45] <Veinor> ... this was the wrong channel.
[22:45] <hansolo669> thegve--try a newr cd
[22:45] <nicklas_> hello, where was it that desktop icons went, for installed applications? think the folder where called applications
[22:45] <TeenySHAD0W> GRR.
[22:45] <elitecoder> wat kind of families would be hanging out in a linux channel? that's stupid
[22:45] <antonius602> there is MOST definitely not a "serious problem with my setup" tho ;)
[22:46] <mib_t7pd68vr> hey guys, how can I restarted everything liek restarting my computer without actually restarting it?
[22:46] <thegve> mib_lnh49mif, logging out and logging in again?
[22:46] <mib_t7pd68vr> basically i want to load everything again but i dont want to restart how can i do that??
[22:46] <hansolo669> mib_t7pd68vr--there is a terminal command...
[22:46] <iamtechno> mib_lnh49mif, like a soft restart.
[22:46] <antonius602> mib_t7pd68vr: u can restart X server? don't know if that's exactly what ur trying to do
[22:47] <mib_t7pd68vr> hmm i guess just loggin out and back in will do it
[22:47] <sjzzalx> antonius602: there definitely is if that's happening
[22:47] <mib_t7pd68vr> :D
[22:47] <mib_t7pd68vr> thanks brb
[22:47] <sjzzalx> or at least a very grave bug you need to report soon
[22:47] <antonius602> well why does every other distro work properly?
[22:47] <thegve> mib_lnh49mif, init 1 (single user mode), init 3 (normal mode)
[22:47] <sjzzalx> antonius602: I don't know
[22:47] <elitecoder> I have a BUNCH of ip route commands to run, Is it best I create hook files in /etc/dhcp3/ ? or add them to /etc/network/interfaces?
[22:47] <antonius602> well, then
[22:47] <antonius602> i don't know i have a "serious problem", either
[22:47] <thegve> But I cannot think of a good reason why you would want that
[22:47] <alienkid10> FINE
[22:47] <antonius602> i = YOU
[22:47] <hansolo669> thegve--fixed your cd problem yet?
[22:47] <antonius602> lol
[22:47] <robbon33> hansolo669: i can't seem to find any port configuring option
[22:47] <Kalmi> antonius602, are you using jaunty?
[22:47] <robbon33> :/
[22:48] <thegve> hansolo669, md5sum of /dev/cdrom gives an IO error after about a minute
[22:48] <antonius602> Kalmi: sorry...didn't answer you, but yes and it's done this since 8.04
[22:48] <thegve> I'll try burning another cd
[22:48] <iamtechno> Kalmi, Yes I believe he/she is
[22:48] <antonius602> Kalmi: not using ubuntu as primary OS...so it's no biggie, i was really just wondering if anyone else has ran into this
[22:48] <Kalmi> antonius602, are you sure it turns off the computer and not only restarts X?
[22:48] <antonius602> lol OFF
[22:49] <Kalmi> !dontzap
[22:49] <NorthByNorthWest> Anyone here happen to know how to share a folder with NFS on a FreeNAS? Ubuntu cant find the server... works with SMB though...
[22:49] <hansolo669> robbon33--that wold be on your router, if you dont have a router then make sure the setting for your emails server (imap/pop3) are set coreectly
[22:49] <antonius602> Kalmi: like pulling the plug
[22:49] <Kalmi> antonius602, odd...
[22:49] <sjzzalx> antonius602: I know you do if that's happens to you. Report a bug or do something like that, that should not be happening even a little bit
[22:49] <antonius602> Kalmi: i know...i've done EVERYTHING lol, so like i said...just wondering if anyone else...
[22:49] <sjzzalx> but I would expect it's a problem with your video card or your electrical wiring
[22:50] <hansolo669> thegve--see how that works
[22:50] <antonius602> sjzzalx: no thx, i just use another distro now....that's why linux is awesome
[22:50] <iamtechno> Kalmi, I just tried to install dontzap and it says there isn't one.
[22:50] <sjzzalx> Linux is awesome because people help with it and report bugs so that it learns more
[22:50] <Desen> LaMs: here's the screenshot: http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot.png
[22:50] <sjzzalx> not reporting bugs is irresponsible and bad citizenship
[22:51] <Kalmi> iamtechno, you are not using jaunty
[22:51] <Desen> LaMs: i cannot copy-paste anything on the MP3 PLayer
[22:51] <iamtechno> Kalmi, true using 8.10
[22:51] <mrwes> iamtechno, ctrl alt del works in 8.10
[22:51] <antonius602> sjzzalx: seriously...i don't use ubuntu anymore...so...it's no biggie...i could honestly care less...it only happens on ONE particular computer...
[22:51] <mib_6bxnpdnd> I have a startup with the command gnome-terminal -e xbindkeys but for some reason when i login it doesnt work i need to manually do xbindkeys in terminal, why?
[22:52] <Kalmi> iamtechno, Ctrl+Alt+Backspace will restart X for you... You don't need the dontzap package for that :)
[22:52] <NorthByNorthWest> Anyone here happen to know how to share a folder with NFS on a FreeNAS? Ubuntu cant find the server... works with SMB though...
[22:52] <madbuntu> Kalmi: disabled by default in jaunty I believe
[22:52] <Kalmi> madbuntu, yes
[22:52] <Kalmi> madbuntu, installing dontzap reenables it
[22:52] <mib_6bxnpdnd> I have a startup with the command gnome-terminal -e xbindkeys but for some reason when i login it doesnt work i need to manually do xbindkeys in terminal, for it to work
[22:53] <CooPs89> how do I make the packet manager download the 32 bit version of a packet instead?
[22:53] <Desen> good people, i am facing some issues while i`m trying to copy files from my HDD > MP3 Player: http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot.png
[22:53] <iamtechno> Kalmi, mrwes, yep it does. My bad.
[22:53] <antonius602> sjzzalx: and irresponsible bad citizenship....i am active in the linux community...but with the distro i use everyday..and only if i can help...actually HELP
[22:53] <UntouchableMX> hey guys, my wifi card connects to the network but no internet or network resorces
[22:53] <CooPs89> I want to download XBMC, but the 64 bit version is unstable, can I make the packet manager download the 32 bit version instead?
[22:53] <arkanabar> Is there a Ventrilo client for ubuntu?
[22:54] <elitecoder> How do I determine the IP network from an IP?
[22:54] <iamtechno> CooPs89, Let me check.
[22:54] <elitecoder> (for `ip route add $IP_NET ...` commands)
[22:54] <hansolo669> UntouchableMX--try doing a ping from your comp to some where else, then check your router setting (cables connection ect)
[22:54] <antonius602> UntouchableMX:  this is a common problem, network manager sucks...consult one of the 10,000 online guides for ubuntu + wifi... many fixes, depending on ur hardware
[22:55] <UntouchableMX> ok thanks
[22:55] <NorthByNorthWest> Jag hoppas det! Är i princip klart... men jag vill fixa så att man kan accessa servern via t ex server.atbrahososs.nu och enkelt kunna jobba med sina filer bara man har en internetuppkoppling...
[22:55] <UntouchableMX> and I did the ping and it dosent answer it
[22:55] <hansolo669> k by for now guys
[22:55] <Desen> good people, i am facing some issues while i`m trying to copy files from my HDD > MP3 Player: http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot.png
[22:56] <iamtechno> CooPs89, where are you installing the package from? The ubuntu repos or xbmc repos?
[22:56] <Floops[w]> what is best package to use to control quota limits for users
[22:57] <CooPs89> iamtechno: http://ppa.launchpad.net/team-xbmc/jaunty-ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
[22:57] <phoenixz> I want to install ubuntu server on a big server we have here.. This server has intel xeon 64 bit cores, but from the ubuntu site, it seems that I can only download amd versions.. how can I get a version for intel cores?
[22:57] <mrwes> Desen, where is the mount point for the MP3 player? /media ?
[22:57] <ZykoticK9> Desen, what make/model of MP3 are you using
[22:58] <thegve> phoenixz, Is the same
[22:58] <DasEi> Desen: use commandline to change ownership of mp3's mountdir
[22:58] <CooPs89> iamtechno: maybe i could change "main" to "main binary-i386" or something?
[22:58] <phoenixz> thegve: so it doesnt matter that it says AMD?
[22:58] <Desen> ZyKoticK9 its a non-Apple MP3 Player. A Philips model
[22:59] <thegve> AMD developed the 64 bit x86 instruction set, it was licensed later on by intel
[22:59] <ZykoticK9> Desen, a Philips what model?
[22:59] <thegve> (So AMD has a x86 license from INTEL and Intel has a 64 bit license of it from AMD)
[22:59] <Desen> mrwes /media/NOIZE
[22:59] <thegve> phoenixz, it does not matter is says AMD
[22:59] <Kalmi> phoenixz, amd64 is that same as intel64 :P
[22:59] <phoenixz> thegve: hehehe, gotta love licenses..
[23:00] <Aliasa> i want to learn bash,i have a book called :linux shell scripting with bash,it ok?
[23:00] <Kalmi> phoenixz, but intel64 has some very odd name...
[23:00] <phoenixz> thegve: the ubuntu server edition should have the ability to install on LVM volumes, right?
[23:00] <Desen> ZyKoticK9 Philips SA2110/02 - i never had problems before
[23:01] <iamtechno> CooPs89, try download the 32 bit package and using sudo dpkg --force-architecture -i <package>
[23:01] <chaos2fu> hii  where can i find the xorg.conf??
[23:01] <vanita_> when I'm running VLC on Ubuntu 9.04 with my i7 920 & Nvidia GTS 250 (AKA 9800gtx+ using G92 GPU), how can I tell if VLC is using VDPAU to decoded video directly (hardware compression h.264 for blu-ray for example) instead of putting most of the load on the CPU?
[23:01] <thegve> phoenixz, I'm not sure about that. I've never installed Ubuntu on LVM myself. I am mainly a programmer and not an administrator by profession :).
[23:01] <DasEi> Desen: chown -R     Desen  /media/NOIZE        ,assuming regular user is named Desen
[23:01] <mrwes> Desen, you might need to change the ownership from the terminal: sudo chown yourusername:yourusername /media/NOIZE
[23:01] <CooPs89> iamtechno: roger
[23:01] <elitecoder> How do I determine the "IP network" from an IP? (for `ip route add $IP_NET ...` commands)
[23:02] <arkanabar> is there a group VoIP solution for Ubuntu, like Ventrilo?
[23:02] <DasEi> Desen: sudo chown -R     Desen  /media/NOIZE        ,assuming regular user is named Desen
[23:02] <Desen> DasEi, mrwes i will try asap, thanx
[23:02] <sega> #ubuntu-ru
[23:02] <phoenixz> thegve: Me programmer too, just don't like other people administering my servers since they always messup
[23:02] <mrwes> desen: you should add the -R for recursive
[23:02] <elitecoder> How does one determine which version of ubuntu has been installed?
[23:02] <iamtechno> CooPs89, I be here for a while so just /msg me if you need any help
[23:03] <DasEi> elitecoder: uname -r  uname -u
[23:03] <thegve> elitecoder, cat /etc/debian_version
[23:03] <vanita_> anyone have an idea on how to enable VDPAU for VLC in ubuntu 9.04 with supported Nvidia graphics cards?
[23:03] <DasEi> !version | elitecoder
[23:03] <ZykoticK9> arkanabar, TeamSpeak client/server will run under *nix
[23:03] <vanita_> I want to put the load on the GPU instead of the CPU
[23:03] <elitecoder> lenny/sid ol
[23:03] <thelaugh2ngmime> quit
[23:03] <THE_GFR|WORK> hey everyone is there a way to make it so you cannot change the number of copies printed?
[23:03] <elitecoder> I'm thinking more like Ubuntu 8.10 or something
[23:03] <thegve> elitecoder, sorry, my bad, that only shows the upstream debian version
[23:04] <elitecoder> np
[23:04] <iamtechno> vanita_, I'll check for you.
[23:04] <nomin> anyone know a solution to this amarok sound problem on 9.04 using gnome?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phonon/+bug/368230
[23:04] <vanita_> iamtechno: awesome, thanks...
[23:04] <DasEi> elitecoder: check the vesion trigger above
[23:04] <nomin> I installed the kde settings program to adjust sound settings but I still can't get sound from amarok
[23:04]  * vanita_ <~~ gives iamtechno cookie...
[23:04] <elitecoder> nice thanks DasEi
[23:04] <TeenySHAD0W> my panel menu isn't loading on boot; it does load if I switch to classic gnome desktop and then back to netbook desktop,   Can someone help?
[23:05] <DasEi> !sound | nomin
[23:05] <vanita_> vanita_:  <~~ watches for zombies feasting on newb brains...
[23:05] <Desen> mrwes, DasEi: i get errors: chown: changing ownership of `/media/NOIZE/autorun.inf': Read-only file system
[23:05] <arkanabar> ZykoticK9, thanks.  My GL just bought a 6 month lease on a Ventrilo server, cuz nobody in WoW will use TeamSpeak.
[23:05] <Desen> mrwes, DasEi: i used SUDO
[23:05] <nomin> TeenySHAD0W: I have a small panel problem too at boot, but it's not a big deal.  I have move one of panels around to put it back where I want to.
[23:05] <DasEi> nomin:alsamixergui installed ?
[23:06] <Desen> mrwes, DasEi: errors are received on all files that exist on the MP3 Player, as shown in the screenshot
[23:06] <DasEi> Desen: manually re-mount it
[23:06] <DasEi> Desen : open a terminal ..
[23:06] <nomin> DasEi: I have the alsamixer in console, but sound works fine for eveything else.  It's just amarok that won't run.
[23:06] <mib_6bxnpdnd> I have a startup with the command gnome-terminal -e xbindkeys but for some reason when i login it doesnt work i need to manually do xbindkeys in terminal, for it to work
[23:06] <nomin> *amarok that has no sound
[23:07] <chaos2fu> how do i edit a *.conf file with gksudo? nothing happens when im writing gksudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf ???
[23:07] <DasEi> Desen : mount               > find devicename of player
[23:07] <Eiles> type gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:07] <DasEi> chaos2fu: gksudo gedit ....
[23:08] <chaos2fu> thanks..
[23:08] <ZykoticK9> Desen, from the screenshot you provided, i'd say the fact that the file names are all messed up may show another sort of problem as well.  good luck man.
[23:08] <DasEi> nomin: check the pcm in alsamixer, risen up and unmuted ? amarok set to use alsa ?
[23:08] <nomin> DasEi: also, the sound test in "systemsettings" for kde settings works just fine
[23:09]  * aaditya walks in
[23:09] <DasEi> Desen: what's the devicename of the player ?
[23:09] <pianoboy3333> are there any good programs for ubuntu/linux for making video montages other than ooo impress?
[23:09] <mib_6bxnpdnd> d	I have a startup with the command gnome-terminal -e xbindkeys but for some reason when i login it doesnt work i need to manually do xbindkeys in terminal, for it to work
[23:09] <vanita_> anyone have any idea on how to enable VDPAU for VLC (or mplayer, totem, etc) in ubuntu 9.04 with supported Nvidia graphics cards?
[23:09] <pianoboy3333> *I mean photo
[23:09] <hamburglar> i am trying to use and/or install my wusb54gc wireless USB adapater.  Is this possible without excessive hacking of kernel stuff?
[23:09] <Desen> ZykoticK9 possibly. DasEi, mrwes, thanx for your support, have a pleasant night. it seems that the MP3 Player is f* up
[23:09] <vanita_> this would put the load on the GPU instead of the CPU, right?
[23:09] <vanita_> I'm using an i7 920 with 6GB RAM and GTS 250 (AKA Nvidia 9800GTX+ which is using the G92 GPU)
[23:10] <DasEi> Desen: if you think so ..
[23:10] <hamburglar> why does hardware support on linux really suck heh
[23:10] <jrib> hamburglar: it doesn't?
[23:10] <mib_6bxnpdnd> vanita_: back again i see :P
[23:10] <ZykoticK9> hamburglar, actually linux supports more hardware then any other os
[23:10] <vanita_> I'm trying to run 8 blu-ray (h.264 1080p) videos simultaneously in each of the 4 desktops for my dual DVI display
[23:10] <hamburglar> from my personal experience, trying to install an 8800
[23:11] <aaditya> hamburglar: i agree with ZykoticK9
[23:11] <hamburglar> and now this other hardware
[23:11] <hamburglar> it sucks
[23:11] <jrib> hamburglar: nvidia?
[23:11] <hamburglar> yes
[23:11] <hamburglar> and linksys
[23:11] <jrib> hamburglar: that card should be supported oob
[23:11] <jrib> ootb
[23:11] <hamburglar> not when i first had it
[23:11] <pianoboy3333> Are there any good programs for ubuntu/linux for making photo montages other than ooo impress?
[23:11] <hamburglar> there was an entire buggy wiki devoted to installing it
[23:11] <vanita_> am I asking the wrong questions?
[23:12] <vanita_> :)
[23:12] <jrib> hamburglar: sure, when hardware is new and you use an old release, that will happen.
[23:12] <ZykoticK9> pianoboy3333, Picasa has a video feature of some sort - never used it myself though
[23:12] <nomin> DasEi: the system settings are different in kde4 and amarok 2.  It used to me easy for me to change the also/oss settings, but I have to look into how these things work now.
[23:12] <hamburglar> so how do i get this wusb54gc to work?
[23:12]  * vanita_ <~~ Vanita fights off zombies feeding on newb brains
[23:12] <jrib> hamburglar: do you have issues with it now?
[23:12] <iamtechno> vanita_, As far as I have read one cannot enable VDPAU yet
[23:12] <hamburglar> yes
[23:12] <nomin> amarok doesn't have the options built in anymore
[23:12] <hamburglar> i plug it in and it's not recognized
[23:12] <RxDx> what do you guys think is better... VMWare or VirtualBox?
[23:12] <jrib> hamburglar: nivida 8800?
[23:12] <vanita_> iamtechno: what about mplayer?
[23:12] <hamburglar> jrib
[23:13] <hamburglar> that burnt out once i installed it on ubuntu
[23:13] <hamburglar> the card burnt out.
[23:13] <iamtechno> vanita_, lemme check
[23:13] <vanita_> iamtechno: I heard mythtv player in .22 supports VDPAU under Ubuntu
[23:13] <hamburglar> it was working fine on vista and xp
[23:13] <hamburglar> but ubuntu burned it to a crisp
[23:13] <jrib> !enter | hamburglar
[23:13] <mib_6bxnpdnd> no one have an answer to my simple question?
[23:13] <iamtechno> jrib, thank you
[23:13] <jrib> hamburglar: good luck with your issue
[23:13] <thegve> @ anyone helping me a few minutes ago - it was simply a bad CD. Stupid of me to forget checking it first...
[23:13] <vanita_> iamtechno: see ~~> http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/roadmap
[23:13] <hamburglar> so there is no way to get a wusb54gc wireless adapater to work on ubuntu
[23:14] <Kalmi> mib_6bxnpdnd, try to use full path
[23:14] <vanita_> unfortunately, I want to run multiple players for each desktop and monitor, so I was really looking for a player like VLC
[23:14] <ruler> i have rare format how can i open it in ubuntu
[23:14] <vanita_> mythtv player is more for TVs I guess
[23:14] <nomin> DasEi: another thing that is weird is that whenever I load a song, it automatically goes right to the end.  Streaming radio streams just fine, but I can't hear anything.  And like I said, every other sound app on my computer works just fine.
[23:14] <ErikRose> I'm trying to do something ridiculous: add a custom repo to my sources.list which has a distro "etch". But aptitude says Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "my-package" when I try to install my-package from that repo. What am I doing stupidly?
[23:14] <thegve> ruler, You have a "rare" format?
[23:14] <iamtechno> vanita_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1037625 check it out.
[23:14] <thegve> or do you mean rar?
[23:14] <vanita_> iamtechno: thanks!
[23:14] <iamtechno> ruler, what format?
[23:14] <iamtechno> vanita_, its for mplayer
[23:15] <Kalmi> !rar | ruler
[23:15] <vanita_> iamtechno: cool, so this will put the load on my Nvidia GPU instead of the CPU for better performance?
[23:15] <hamburglar> is the WUSB54GC usb wireless adapter supported on Ubuntu?
[23:16] <iamtechno> vanita_, If all goes well yes
[23:16] <thegve> hamburglar, Linksys?
[23:16] <hamburglar> yes
[23:17] <thegve> Sounds familiair, think so, but I am not a hardware DB. Can't you find something on the net?
[23:17] <robbon33> hello
[23:17] <vanita_> I think Windows uses DXMA for this (but can also use VDPAU now iirc)
[23:17] <ruler> kalm : ra format
[23:17] <gartral> how do i copy a folder to  a flashdrive without the smegging symlinks?!?
[23:17] <robbon33> i have evolution installed, and when i try to receive/send the message it just receive 3 messages
[23:17] <ruler> kalm rar foamat
[23:17] <hamburglar> thegve, the stuff on the net says "linux support for hardware remains poor"
[23:17] <robbon33> the rest of the messages in my inbox it doesn't receive
[23:17] <vanita_> OS X doesn't yet have support for VDPAU but is coming out with OpenCL in 10.6
[23:17] <robbon33> how could i fix this?
[23:17] <pianoboy3333> Are there any good programs for ubuntu/linux for making photo montages other than ooo impress and picasa?
[23:17] <zek> i try to boot a live cd and i get the error "IO APIC resources could be not be allocated " "kernel panic - not syncing : Attempted to kill init!" ideas?
[23:18] <thegve> zek, Do a media check, if it turns out ok, reboot, press f6, and then check nolapic.
[23:18] <mib_6bxnpdnd> Kalmi: u woudln't happen to know the full path of xbindkeys would u?
[23:18] <aaditya> robbon33: which mail server are you using? and protocol?
[23:18] <gartral> how do i copy a folder without using symbolic links
[23:19] <robbon33> aaditya: i'm using gmail protocol pop and smtp
[23:19] <ruler> kalm :rar format
[23:19] <thegve> gartral, ctrl-c and ctrl-v ?
[23:19] <hamburglar> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=279447  <------------ what does all of that mean?
[23:19] <robbon33> i'm entering the email server smtp.gmail.com:port
[23:19] <robbon33> and the port
[23:19] <thegve> or "copy" and "paste"
[23:19] <robbon33> where is port
[23:19] <gartral> thegve: that uses symlinks!
[23:19] <hansolo669> ok i'm back for now
[23:19] <Kalmi> mib_6bxnpdnd, which xbindkeys
[23:19] <JordanC> Hey folks, OK if I ask a question?
[23:19] <hamburglar> ndiswrapper , wifi radard etc?
[23:19] <aaditya> robbon33: you'll be better off using imap
[23:19] <aaditya> robbon33: instead of POP
[23:20] <hansolo669> JordanC--go ahead
[23:20] <zek> thegve: where does the noapic (or is it nolapic) go in the boot options?
[23:20] <JordanC> hansolo669: How come my leg is itchy?
[23:20] <UntouchableMX> well guys, what network manager do you recommend, because theres not that many info available for my hardware, and I was told to search wifi ubuntu for my hardware
[23:20] <Kalmi> mib_6bxnpdnd, i mean: execute the follwoing and it will tell you: which xbindkeys
[23:20] <JordanC> I just done' scratched it
[23:20] <hansolo669> JordanC--...ask your dockter
[23:20] <JordanC> :P
[23:20] <gartral> zek: hit f6 twice
[23:20] <thegve> zek, You can enable it using f6 for "extra options" I think
[23:20] <robbon33> aaditya: what do i insert in the imap server?
[23:20] <gartral> how do i copy a folder without using symbolic links
[23:20] <robbon33> imap.gmail.com?
[23:20] <mib_6bxnpdnd> Kalmi: ok thanks let me try kind of new to linux, don't know all the commands
[23:20] <aaditya> robbon33: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=75725
[23:21] <DasEi> pianoboy3333: fotowall is nice for that
[23:21] <aaditya> robbon33: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=78799
[23:21] <pianoboy3333> DasEi: can I export to avi or some kind of movie file?
[23:21] <jonaskoelker> Hi all.  Is there a small ubuntu installation cd image?
[23:21] <DasEi> pianoboy3333: it's not in the repos, but can google it and install the tarball
[23:21] <hamburglar> can someone explain this sentence:  compile ndiswrapper, install the rt73 system files, modprobe ndiswrapper, and blacklist the crappy drivers ubuntu thought would work
[23:21] <aaditya> check both of them. it will solve your problem
[23:21] <thegve> jonaskoelker, Small, as in?
[23:22] <gartral> jonaskoelker: look into the alternate cd, or UBR for notebooks
[23:22] <jonaskoelker> thegve: my friend says 650 mb
[23:22] <aaditya> hamburglar: which part of this sentence?
[23:22] <pianoboy3333> DasEi: what can I export the final product as?
[23:22] <jonaskoelker> gartral: aren't they all ~700 megs?
[23:22] <hamburglar> compile ndiswrapper
[23:22] <DasEi> pianoboy3333:you asked for a collaging program, that is
[23:22] <thegve> jonaskoelker, The "normal" installation cd is a single CD.
[23:22] <hansolo669> jonaskoelker--try ubuntu mini
[23:22] <gartral> jonaskoelker: there doesnt exist a mini image of ubuntu... if thats what you meant
[23:23] <jonaskoelker> no floppy image?
[23:23] <dupondje> what command can I use to compare 2 directories ? I can do it with diff, but I don't need content to be compared, only if the files exists in both dirs
[23:23] <gartral> jonaskoelker: floppy...?
[23:23] <DasEi> pianoboy3333:fotowall stores in png
[23:23] <aaditya> hamburglar: http://tinyurl.com/l7j3s6
[23:23] <neurobuntu_> what is the recommended partition table type when formatting a new drive?
[23:23] <a_> wird hier auch deutsch gesprochen
[23:23] <jonaskoelker> gartral: yeah, like a 1.44mb disk image
[23:23] <hatter243> !de | a+
[23:23] <hansolo669> jonaskoelker-- ubuntu mini remix at: http://www.ubuntu-mini-remix.crealabs.it (i think)
[23:24] <DasEi> a_:nein, aber
[23:24] <DasEi> !de
[23:24] <gartral> jonaskoelker: no... try DamnSmallLinux or tinycore
[23:24] <Swiatecki> hi there, can anyone tell me why when i try to start a screen through php I get a "select screen profile" + "your profile is not accessable"
[23:24] <_pHI_> hi, i was wondering how i use grep to search for the string "../include"? It somehow assumes that dots are regular expressions for any character. how do i make sure it's treated as '..' instead?
[23:24] <aaditya> neurobuntu_: msdos is the default and recommended
[23:24] <gartral> jonaskoelker: better yet, invest in a cdrom burner
[23:24] <neurobuntu_> aaditya, thanks
[23:25] <aaditya> neurobuntu_: np
[23:25] <hansolo669> gartral--dsl is very minimal
[23:25] <sjzzalx> I want to control fan speed. How can I do this easily from the commandline?
[23:25] <jrib> !wifi > hamburglar
[23:25] <jonaskoelker> gartral: yeah yeah, it's for a friend's box :)
[23:25] <hansolo669> gartral--lol
[23:25] <hansolo669> jonaskoelker--so?
[23:25] <mib_28qbc9zk> Kalmi: nah i tried using the full path didnt work
[23:25] <jonaskoelker> and one can install the "real" ubuntu from the Ubuntu Mini Remix?
[23:25] <jrib> hamburglar: that page explains how to use ndiswrapper, but check for alternative instructions specific to your card first
[23:25] <gartral> hansolo669: well jonaskoelker is asking for a floppy install alternative for ubunt...
[23:25] <ZykoticK9> _pHI_, have you tried putting a \ in from of the . ? ie grep \.\.\/include type thing
[23:25] <jonaskoelker> well, my cd burner doesn't help my friend over in the next city :)
[23:26] <hansolo669> gartral--that dosent exist!!!
[23:26] <aaditya> neurobuntu_: though i'm not sure if you meant partition type...
[23:26] <_pHI_> ZykoticK9: thnx
[23:26] <neurobuntu_> aaditya, yes that is what I meant
[23:26] <anternat> is there real diffference btw having an ubuntu server or debian server?
[23:26] <gartral> hansolo669: tell him that... I know of only TWO linux oses that maintain a floppy installation
[23:26] <isomerc> t
[23:26] <logankoester> anternat: not much
[23:26] <aaditya> neurobuntu_: ext3 or ext4
[23:26] <hansolo669> jonaskoelker--floppy ubuntu DOSNOTEXIST!!!!!!!
[23:27] <neurobuntu_> aaditya, oops no I didn't mean that
[23:27] <aaditya> !ext3
[23:27] <gartral> i dont even know anyone with a working floopy drive >.>
[23:27] <neurobuntu_> aaditya, msdos was the answer to my question
[23:27] <jonaskoelker> thanks, I get that...
[23:27] <Yadra> I'm unable to locate any reference to how to find the target of a hardlink, and wondering if anyone here might have a thought.
[23:27] <aaditya> neurobuntu_: ok cool
[23:27] <jrib> anternat: support (security updates by canonical and LTS releases)
[23:27] <jonaskoelker> debian still has floppy support, right?
[23:27] <hansolo669> gartral--now you do but its only for work
[23:27] <hansolo669> jonaskoelker--no
[23:27] <neurobuntu_> what are the benefits of ext4 over ext3?  I have disc that is going to be for storage of media, pictures, music, movies, etc... should I use ext4 or ext3?
[23:27] <gartral> how do i copy a folder without using symbolic links
[23:27] <jonaskoelker> ah, that was back in 2004, then :\
[23:27] <hansolo669> jonaskoelker--yupo
[23:28] <jonaskoelker> ah well, the ubuntu mini will do
[23:28] <mib_28qbc9zk> how can i add xbindkeys to startup applications the command gnome-terminal -e /usr/bin/xbindkeys doesnt work gnome-terminal -e xbindkeys doesn't work and xbindkeys doesn't work
[23:28] <hansolo669> jonaskoelker--try serching the torrents
[23:28] <DasEi> gartal: cp -r
[23:28] <TheAnimalMX> hey guys, my wifi card connects to the ap, and it gets ip and all of that info, but it aint gettin internet and not givin me any network resources, will installing a different network manager work, if so wich one do you guys recommend
[23:28] <aaditya> neurobuntu_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4#Features
[23:28] <hansolo669> jonaskoelker--or just search floppy linux distro
[23:28] <neurobuntu_> aaditya, i've been reading that
[23:28] <aaditya> TheAnimalMX: what do you see when you try to visit a website?
[23:29] <TheAnimalMX> unable to connect
[23:29] <TheAnimalMX> and I ping my ap and it fails
[23:29] <jonaskoelker> hansolo669: well, I don't think the results offa' "floppy linux distro" would be floppy-based _ubuntu_ installers...
[23:29] <ZykoticK9> Yadra, i don't have an answer for you, but a hardlink sorta becomes the file - it is two files pointing to the same physical disk location (much different from a softlink)
[23:29] <jonaskoelker> anyways...
[23:29] <aaditya> TheAnimalMX: let's start with the output of `sudo ifconfig`
[23:29] <hansolo669> jonaskoelker--yes but if you want linux you can still serch that :/
[23:29] <Yadra> I'm unable to locate any reference to how to find the target of a hardlink, and wondering if anyone here might have a thought.
[23:30] <jonaskoelker> hansolo669: uhh... okay...
[23:30] <jonaskoelker> thanks, I guess
[23:30] <TheAnimalMX> well im in windows right now because wifi is my only way of internet
[23:30] <mib_28qbc9zk> how can i add xbindkeys to startup applications the command gnome-terminal -e /usr/bin/xbindkeys doesnt work gnome-terminal -e xbindkeys doesn't work and xbindkeys doesn't work
[23:30] <TheAnimalMX> but I have the log from yesterdya, I can send it to you
[23:30] <poningru> jonaskoelker, what are you trying to do?
[23:30] <jonaskoelker> mib_28qbc9zk: /usr/bin/xbindkeys
[23:30] <aaditya> TheAnimalMX: sure, go ahead
[23:30] <corey> whats up guys
[23:31] <hansolo669> jonaskoelker--well..thinking...stay here for a bit, i'l see if i can find a floppy debian img
[23:31] <jonaskoelker> poningru: help my friend, who apparently has a too-small-for-the-std-ubuntu-image install ubuntu
[23:31] <jonaskoelker> hansolo669: don't bother, I don't need it
[23:31] <hansolo669> jonaskoelker--OK
[23:31] <jonaskoelker> oops, there should be a "CD" in there, poningru
[23:32] <aaditya> !pastebin| TheAnimalMX
[23:32] <leOn> anyone kows if it's possible to have gnome-terminal displaying the current command as window title .. i.e. if i'm currently doing a "less somefile.txt", i'd get that as window title in gnome-term
[23:32] <poningru> jonaskoelker, hmm?
[23:32] <poningru> his hdd is too small?
[23:32] <jonaskoelker> poningru: nope, his cd
[23:32] <aaditya> TheAnimalMX: it's ok now
[23:32] <jonaskoelker> poningru: his _burnable_ cd
[23:32] <mib_28qbc9zk> how can i add xbindkeys to startup applications the command gnome-terminal -e /usr/bin/xbindkeys doesnt work gnome-terminal -e xbindkeys doesn't work and xbindkeys doesn't work
[23:32] <hansolo669> jonaskoelker--new cd's
[23:33] <aaditya> TheAnimalMX: i don't see an IP address there. how do you know that you got one?
[23:33] <TheAnimalMX> http://paste.ubuntu.com/183204/
[23:33] <jonaskoelker> man, I sucked at explaining that... sizeof(ubuntu mini) < sizeof(his cd) < sizeof(normal image)
[23:33] <hamburglar> ugh this is useless
[23:33] <jonaskoelker> hansolo669: you know a cd store open at 00:30?
[23:33] <DasEi> jonaskoelker: or use the netinstaller version
[23:33] <hamburglar> reading all these commands i don't know about and will probably never use ever again
[23:33] <geniice> anyone here use mediacoder?
[23:33] <Yadra> suddenly the chat has fizzeled?
[23:33] <ZykoticK9> jonaskoelker, the Ubuntu CD does require a 700MB not a 650MB CD...
[23:33] <hansolo669> jonaskoelker--no but..well can you wait till tom?
[23:34] <jonaskoelker> hansolo669: tom?
[23:34] <DasEi> !minimal | jonaskoelker
[23:34] <aaditya> mib_28qbc9zk: doesn't work means? the command isn't executed at startup?
[23:34] <corey> wow
[23:34] <gartral> how do i copy a folder without using symbolic links
[23:34] <hansolo669> jonaskoelker--tomoro
[23:34] <Yadra> I'm trying to get Nautilus to show me where a folder shortcut points.
[23:34] <Yadra> :)
[23:34] <kerebrus> #a2000a @ irc.aniverse.com
[23:34] <aaditya> gartral: cp
[23:34] <mib_28qbc9zk> aaditya: yes, if i open terminal and run xbindkeys it works but otherwise it's not getting started up when i login
[23:34] <aaditya> Yadra: it's not a shortcut ;)
[23:35] <DasEi> gartal: cp -r , again
[23:35] <ZykoticK9> Yadra, that's not a hardlink at all!  ls -l in command line will show you.
[23:35] <gartral> aaditya: no, it still says operation not permitted, cant use symboilic links
[23:35] <TheAnimalMX> well aaditya, did you check the link?
[23:35] <casperfoo> kerebrus: what's that?
[23:35] <jonaskoelker> hansolo669: no, by then my friend is lost in the black pit where the bugblatter beast of traal resides
[23:35] <nomin> ubuntu 9.04 is really nice with download file sizes for packages.  How did ubuntu do this?  What kind of compression is this?
[23:35] <hansolo669> jonaskoelker--lol very funny
[23:35] <jonaskoelker> DasEi: hey, thanks for that reference
[23:35] <nomin> the downloads for installing packages are all smaller
[23:35] <DasEi> jonaskoelker: np
[23:35] <unkmar> gartral: you can't use symbolic links on a FAT system.
[23:36] <jonaskoelker> what would be _really_ _awesome_ was if there was a link to those alternate ways of installing ubuntu, on the page where I choose how I want to install ubuntu
[23:36] <gartral> unkmar: i know that! how do i copy without using them!?!?!
[23:36] <jonaskoelker> *HEADDESK*
[23:36] <hansolo669> jonaskoelker--thare is...i think
[23:36] <DasEi> !install | jonaskoelker
[23:36] <aaditya> TheAnimalMX: yeah, there is an IP. is your router set to block traffic somehow?
[23:37] <unkmar> gartral: locate and copy the actual file. What sym links are you trying to copy?
[23:37] <jonaskoelker> all I could find was links to a _different_ 700 meg cd ... :\
[23:37] <hansolo669> jonaskoelker--oh hmm..well i tried :/
[23:37] <mib_28qbc9zk> aaditya: any clue on what might be the problem?
[23:37] <jonaskoelker> hansolo669: thanks :)
[23:37] <hansolo669> jonaskoelker-- no prob
[23:37] <gartral> unkmar: please, i have 6 gigs of info i gotta put in my flash drive... how do i copy without using the symlinks?
[23:38] <gartral> unkmar: im not trying to copy a symlink, i have data on my drive, and its trying to MAKE a symlink to it on the flashdrive
[23:38] <aaditya> mib_28qbc9zk: try setting up a different startup application and see if that works. try `zenity --info`
[23:38] <DasEi> jonaskoelker: also if you got a running 9.04 or 8.10, usbcreator is a nice tool, installation from stick is very comfortable, too
[23:38] <unkmar> gartral: and you are doing the copy from cli?
[23:38] <gartral> unkmar: i just want to compy my music non destructivly :(
[23:38] <jonaskoelker> DasEi: yeah, thanks for the tip.  I (he) had a running Hardy/Breezy, but then it blew up
[23:38] <gartral> unkmar: same result using GUI and CLI
[23:39] <aaditya> gartral: is your source a symlink? or contains symlinks?
[23:39] <DasEi> !usb | jonaskoelker
[23:39] <hansolo669> gartral--drag adn drop?
[23:39] <aaditya> hansolo669: LOL
[23:39] <hamburglar> what's feisty what's gusty? i think i only have hardy?
[23:39] <Yadra> aaditya: now you seem to be talking about my question even though you're not talking to me! lol
[23:39] <aaditya> !fiesty> hamburglar
[23:39] <aaditya> !gusty > hamburglar
[23:39] <jonaskoelker> hamburglar: old releases of ubuntu
[23:40] <ElAnimalMX> sorry for the disconnection
[23:40] <hamburglar> so this documentation doesn't even work for hardy then?
[23:40] <DasEi> !lts > hamburglar
[23:40] <mib_28qbc9zk> aaditya: hmm i have devilspie i just put devilspie without anything else it worked hold on let me try doing just xbindkeys again
[23:40] <gartral> hansolo669: it complains about symlinks... its all music, and i dont see how there could be symlinks...
[23:40] <hamburglar> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=516649 <-----------------
[23:40] <jonaskoelker> hamburglar: the community documentation is sadly horribly out of date
[23:40] <ElAnimalMX> aaditya, did you check the link of the post? Im TheAnimalMX
[23:40] <hansolo669> gartral--dont worry it should still work
[23:40] <gartral> aaditya: how can i tell?
[23:40] <hamburglar> so i'm ass out if I want to install my linksys wireless USB driver?
[23:40] <jonaskoelker> hamburglar: and enough stuff gets update between each release that the docs stop working...
[23:40] <aaditya> Yadra: haha it wasn't about your question. try `ls -l`
[23:40] <Kalmi> gartral, press ctrl while dragging them
[23:41] <gartral> hansolo669: ive tryed dragging and dropping 55 times, it STILL wants to make a GDE symlink\
[23:41] <Yadra> aaditya: could it really be that simple? lol
[23:41] <Yadra> aaditya: I never got the impression ls -l would show details like that
[23:41] <Yadra> aaditya: I didn't even think it showed timestamps
[23:41] <hamburglar> so basically Google DID NOT help me out at all :/
[23:41] <Yadra> aaditya: just file size
[23:41] <hansolo669> gartral--ok thats wierd...hmm can you ingnore that dialog box and see if it still works
[23:41] <casperfoo> gartral: did you try holding down ctrl in Nautilus?
[23:41] <aaditya> ElAnimalMX: i did. it looks fine. is your router playing up? security restrictions in router? can you ping your machine from another machine?
[23:41] <gartral> Kalmi: Error, Cannot create symlink; operation not allowed
[23:42] <ElAnimalMX> I havent tried that
[23:42] <ruler> can i put password for a particular folder
[23:42] <Yadra> aaditya: okay, well thanks, and afk as I check :)
[23:42] <gartral> yes, ive copied, used cp -a, ctl+drag-n-drop all with same result
[23:42] <hansolo669> ruler--yes
[23:42] <unkmar> gartral: ls -laR  folder > log.txt
[23:42] <ElAnimalMX> but how wierd that it only does it in when Im in ubuntu
[23:43] <mib_d8w0qxok> why is it that devilspie command works but xbindkeys doesnt work as a startup command?
[23:43] <ZykoticK9> ruler, you can set user permissions on a folder level, but i know of no way to password particular folder in linux
[23:43] <gartral> unkmar: which folder?
[23:43] <rww_> gartral, cp -L
[23:43] <unkmar> gartral: then pastebin the log.txt file.  We will see if we can locate the links that are causing the problem.
[23:43] <ElAnimalMX> should I open I port on the router?
[23:43] <hansolo669> gartral--i dont know  smarter  perople go ahead...agian... :)
[23:43] <hamburglar> what's KDE?
[23:43] <aaditya> ElAnimalMX: nope, no ports required
[23:43] <danielrmt> !kde | hamburglar
[23:43] <aaditya> !KDE > hamburglar
[23:43] <jwfoxjr> ok, so I'm trying to setup openvpn on my box, and when I restart networking, I get an error that says "Ignoring unknown interface br0=br0."
[23:43] <ElAnimalMX> so what do you recommend that I should do
[23:43] <unkmar> the folder that conatins the files you plan to copy.
[23:44] <jwfoxjr> I've defined the interface in /etc/networking/interfaces
[23:44] <mib_d8w0qxok> aaditya: why is it that devilspie command works but xbindkeys doesnt work as a startup command?
[23:44] <casperfoo> gartral: also can you copy any single file to the drive?  it might be a permissions issue
[23:44] <hamburglar> so i have to install KDE to use his script?
[23:44] <hamburglar> no thanks
[23:44] <hansolo669> hamburglar--kde is a difret "winodow manager" its like gnome but with big difrences
[23:44] <aaditya> ElAnimalMX: which router do you have?
[23:44] <gartral> rwwty THAT WORKED
[23:44] <djp> i have avi files that i've imported from my camera that skip terribly. is this an issue with .avi and totem?
[23:44] <ElAnimalMX> 2wire
[23:44] <vincentRDL> Hi, Brasero won't recognize my DVD - K3B does. What'S wrong. Im on 8.10
[23:44] <rww_> gartral, you're welcome :)
[23:44] <hamburglar> yea it appears that Ubuntu does not support WUSB54GC at all
[23:44] <gtlz> who is in charge of jaunty's mysql?
[23:44] <gartral> rww i had to -LR cause its a Dir... but TY
[23:44] <hamburglar> i mind as well return this to best buy
[23:44] <gtlz> anyone know?
[23:45] <unkmar> ah, good move.  Follow symb links.
[23:45] <aaditya> mib_d8w0qxok: difference of environment in a terminal and in gnome startup apps
[23:45] <jwfoxjr> paste of /etc/network/interfaces - http://paste.ubuntu.com/183212/
[23:45] <gartral> aaditya: thank you, but i think it's just ubuntu being dumb... hansolo669 thanks, and everyone else!
[23:45] <hansolo669> gartral--no prob
[23:46] <casperfoo> gartral: I think you must have symlinks in your source directory somewhere then
[23:46] <rww_> gtlz, the Ubuntu core and MOTU developers. Why?
[23:46] <hamburglar> ubuntu has been a disappointment over and over for hardware
[23:46] <gartral> casperfoo: possibly, but i dont know how to tell
[23:46] <casperfoo> gartral: in nautilus they show up with a different icon
[23:46] <gtlz> rww_: because of mysql bug 35608 and it making it relatively impossible to gracefully upgrade using the stock mysql 5.1 server
[23:46] <unkmar> gartral: I agree with casperfoo. there must be some symlinks in the source directory.
[23:46] <hansolo669> hamburglar--stop complaning
[23:46] <hamburglar> why ?
[23:46] <gtlz> rww_: they have it as a wontfix and it only affects the maria tree.
[23:46] <hansolo669> hamburglar--its tiering
[23:46] <ruler> please tell how to put code for particular folder
[23:46] <casperfoo> gartral: like in your home directory, the Examples directory is a symlink
[23:47] <gtlz> rww_: let me save you some time: http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=35608
[23:47] <aaditya> hamburglar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[23:47] <mib_d8w0qxok> aaditya: not sure what u mean, like i run devilspie through terminal and xbindkeys and they both work and when i do a startup command devilspie works and the command xbindkeys doesn't it's akward
[23:47] <hamburglar> i have been looking at that aaditya
[23:47] <gartral> casperfoo: I removed the Examples directorys
[23:47] <logankoester> Is there really no bpm counter app in the repos? That's hard to believe
[23:47] <logankoester> bpm counter for dance music i mean
[23:47] <aaditya> hamburglar: this one is easier than compiling ndiswrapper
[23:48] <hansolo669> logankoester--do you have all comunity apps selected at the to of the add remove programs window
[23:48] <hamburglar> ok i have that ndiswrapper thing installed using the package manager
[23:48] <hamburglar> what next?
[23:48] <jwfoxjr> ok, so I'm trying to setup openvpn on my box, and when I restart networking, I get an error that says "Ignoring unknown interface br0=br0."
[23:48] <ruler> please tell how to put code for particular folder
[23:48] <jwfoxjr> I've defined the interface in /etc/networking/interfaces
[23:48] <gartral> casperfoo: but how do i tell?
[23:48] <jwfoxjr> paste of /etc/network/interfaces - http://paste.ubuntu.com/183212/
[23:48] <aaditya> mib_d8w0qxok: not sure what's going on. try gnome-terminal -e 'xbindkeys; sleep 10000' at startup
[23:49] <logankoester> hansolo669: I'm using apt-cache search
[23:49] <aaditya> mib_d8w0qxok: and then see what you get
[23:49] <vincentRDL> last message in brasero with the debug started: (brasero:6496): BraseroBurn-DEBUG: At burn-caps.c:3735: checking media caps for Disc DVD - (sequential) W blank
[23:49] <logankoester> hansolo669: for the keyword bpm
[23:49] <vincentRDL> It never seems to find the media though ...
[23:49] <casperfoo> gartral: ok.. well you can create a new symlink in Nautilus by just rigth-clicking and choosing "make link"; sorry that examples "link" is a different kind, not a normal symlink
[23:49] <hamburglar> 1737:0077  is the id of my usb device. nothing more. nothing like linksys or cisco or anything liek that
[23:49] <gartral> !pastebin | vincentRDL
[23:49] <hansolo669> logankoester--ok well try googling bpm counter for linux
[23:49] <gtlz> rww_: and it most certainly affects a 5067 => 5131 replication
[23:49] <casperfoo> gartral: symlinks in Nautilus have a big arrow on them
[23:49] <rww_> gtlz, does this affect the version Ubuntu uses?
[23:49] <ZykoticK9> jwfoxjr, link 4 if missing an iface
[23:50] <aaditya> gartral: did vincentRDL flood? i didn't notice..
[23:50] <gartral> casperfoo: how do i tell if there are symlinks in the source dir im copying?
[23:50] <logankoester> thanks hansolo669 i'm sure i'll find one that way
[23:50] <ZykoticK9> jwfoxjr, sorry line 4 is missing an iface
[23:50] <logankoester> i could just write on in ruby or python in 5 minutes anyway
[23:50] <aaditya> vincentRDL: is some other program accessing the drive at the same time?
[23:50] <logankoester> no big deal
[23:50] <hansolo669> logankoester--no prob
[23:50] <ruler> please tell how to put folder password
[23:50] <pintook> need to install a programme to format pendrives and others on ubuntu
[23:50] <hamburglar> http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/index.php?/component/option,com_openwiki/Itemid,33/id,list/ doesn't show anything regarding the id of my usb device
[23:50] <gtlz> rww_: you can't replicate an intrepid db to a jaunty db, making safe upgrade to 5.1 in ubuntu impossible.
[23:50] <casperfoo> gartral: you could just browse it with Nautilus, I was suggesting; or use an ls -l command in a shell and look for lines starting with "lrwxrwxrwx"
[23:51] <ExAstris> Hi all. I have Ubuntu on my internal HD and I just installed XUbuntu to an external HD so I can use it for a project I'm working on, and as a backup OS in case my HD dies. I have created a grub entry (I'll pastebin it in a moment) to boot Xubuntu, but am recieivng an error 21 when I try to.
[23:51] <hamburglar> I'm probably talking into the wind at this point
[23:51] <pintook> hi gtlz
[23:51] <pintook> need to install a programme to format pendrives and others on ubuntu
[23:51] <gordonjcp> pintook: mkfs
[23:51] <hansolo669> hamburglar--look no one likes a complaner
[23:51] <benc2> is there a single package for LAMP or do I need to install apache, php and mysql separatley?
[23:51] <hamburglar> anyone know where the ndiswrapper list is ?
[23:51] <hansolo669> well got to go guys bye
[23:51] <jwfoxjr> ZykoticK9: not quite sure what you mean - I'm following the Ubuntu Community OpenVPN Howto...what should I be bridging to?
[23:51] <hamburglar> hansolo669 i'm asking specific questions
[23:51] <gartral> casperfoo: well, did the second, none came up in the source dir, I tink Ubuntu is being grumpy cause i dont have USB 2.0 ports on my comp
[23:52] <hamburglar> not really complaining
[23:52] <casperfoo> gartral: or find srcdir -type l where srcdir is a place to start
[23:52] <anternat> bench2 slampp?
[23:52] <pintook> what is that gord
[23:52] <casperfoo> gartral: that should have no affect on anything except speed will be 10 times different
[23:52] <benc2> anternat: slampp?
[23:52] <ZykoticK9> jwfoxjr, in you're paste bin of you network file, line #4 says "if br0 ..." and should say "iface br0..."
[23:52] <rww_> gtlz, Then you'd want to file a bug about it in Launchpad.
[23:52] <ExAstris> that pastebin is http://pastebin.ca/1438686
[23:52] <anternat> live cd webserver (
[23:52] <hamburglar> god. ndiswrapper is no longer supported
[23:53] <ExAstris> what nao?
[23:53] <ExAstris> why?
[23:53] <jwfoxjr> ZykoticK9: ok - thanks - I see
[23:53] <pintook>  need to install a programme to format pendrives and others on ubuntu
[23:53] <benc2> anternat: I want to install it on my ubuntu desktop
[23:53] <x2o> hi
[23:53] <gordonjcp> !repeat | pintook
[23:53] <gordonjcp> pintook: also, I told you already
[23:53] <gtlz> rww_: yeah i wanted to avoid wasting my time doingso if it's going to get marked wontfix again.  i somewhat doubt they'd bother switching to the nonmaria tree but wanted them to be aware.
[23:54] <greg> Hello all- Have a printer issue, laptop through a netgear router wireless. Base system prints ok printer hpj4500 series. when i add a print on the laptop the uri= a different on than system uri. Question, can i use HPLIP on both systems to communicate without using CUPS?
[23:54] <hamburglar> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/LinksysWUSB54GC?highlight=(ManufacturerModel)|(AND)   isn't helping me install my wireless usb device. anyone got a real doc?
[23:54] <aaditya> !info format | pintook
[23:54] <gtlz> rww_: hence my original question... oh well.  i guess i'm sticking to mysql-server-5.0 (which is wtf regarding version naming)
[23:54] <ruler> please tell how to put code for particular folder
[23:54] <x2o> my bluetooth isnt working properly, i can browse files on my cellphone via laptop and push files onto my cellphone but cant receive files via push service
[23:54] <pintook> ok
[23:54] <dassouki> is there a reason my camera only works with camorama :(
[23:54] <aaditya> ruler: what sort of code?
[23:54] <phoenixz> How can I let SSH ignore the knownhosts file? I have some weird problem with a program that keeps replacing the knnown host file and with that it messes up its own ssh calls.. I want to configure ssh to ignore the known hosts file for the moment, just to be able to continue testing. How do I do this?
[23:55] <boss_mc> pintook: CLI or GUI?
[23:55] <jwfoxjr> ZykoticK9: thanks - that worked perfectly! :)
[23:55] <aaditya> dassouki: is it not accessible directly as a drive?
[23:55] <greg> R
[23:55] <ruler> aaditya : i want to put code for a particular folder
[23:55] <dassouki> aaditya: i don't think so
[23:55] <dassouki> aaditya: how can i check
[23:56] <gartral> once again, thank you
[23:56] <hamburglar> ok. better question:  Which USB wireless adapter Actually works and is supported with actual working documentation in hardy 8.04 ?
[23:57] <aaditya> dassouki: best way is to use the gnome "disk mounter" applet
[23:58] <aaditya> dassouki: we can investigate further using the dmesg output
[23:58] <aaditya> dassouki: plug in the camera, and then `dmesg | tail -25`
[23:58] <aaditya> dassouki: and then pastebin it
[23:58] <mib_6s8v2mgc> aaditya: i just tried it, same problem
[23:59] <dassouki> aaditya: http://pastebin.com/d38b3bd45
[23:59] <mib_6s8v2mgc> aaditya: it seems to just not be loading up for some reason idk why
[23:59] <dassouki> aaditya: interesting output
[23:59] <Knyte> so with the LiveCD won't allow installation without a password.. tried toor, root, ubuntu, admin, god.. nothin is working.. any ideas?
[23:59] <aaditya> mib_6s8v2mgc: idk either :(
[23:59] <mib_6s8v2mgc> aaditya: im thinking maybe it's not loadfing the default config but then again i neve rhave to set those parameters when i do it in terminal all i do is type xbindkeys, that's all


[00:05] <cjwatson> doko: Did libgcj-bc's dependencies intentionally get flipped from libgcj13 back to libgcj12?
[00:06] <cjwatson> doko: I can't see any sign of that in the diff, which is kind of odd
[00:06] <cjwatson> doko: But you can see the effects on http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/raring-proposed_probs.html
[01:26] <doko_> cjwatson, my bad. merge error. now fixed
[05:55] <simplew> anyone with packaging knowledge?
[06:42] <tumbleweed> simplew: no need to ask to ask, just ask a question. Also you probably want to ask it in #ubuntu-packaging, rather than here, if it's unrelated to development of Ubuntu
[06:43] <tumbleweed> oh, you already did, there
[09:36] <cjwatson> doko: great, thanks
[14:09] <jtaylor> infinity: was https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cython/0.16-1ubuntu1 forwarded somewhere?
[15:02] <sebasmagri> Hi!
[15:02] <sebasmagri> Any jockey/ubuntu-drivers-common developer in here?
[15:58] <ScottK> sebasmagri: Probably not on a weekend.
[15:59] <sebasmagri> ScottK: I see. Thanks anyway. I will be around.
[17:04] <infinity> jtaylor: No, I probably should push that one to Debian but, I think, at the time I was considering actually finding and fixing the real bug, rather than sticking with the workaround.
[17:05] <jtaylor> infinity: do you have a testcase?
[17:05] <infinity> jtaylor: Oh, also, it looks like 1.17 no longer has the problem (looking at experimental build logs)
[17:06] <infinity> jtaylor: So, I'll just sync current experimental and wash my hands of it.
[17:06] <jtaylor> infinity: k, the sync fixes 812511 too
[17:10] <infinity> jtaylor: Cheers, closed.  Annoying that MoM doesn't notice that we're tracking experimental and pop those on my radar, or I'd have updated a while ago.
[17:14] <jtaylor> so the issue was only seen in a buildlog?
[17:14] <infinity> jtaylor: Yes.  As in it failed to build on all arched with unsigned chars.
[17:15] <infinity> s/arched/arches/
[17:15] <jtaylor> why doesn't it fail in debian testing?
[17:15] <jtaylor> was it only 0.16?
[17:15] <infinity> jtaylor: It was 1.16 and the first 1.17 beta, 1.15 was fine.
[17:15] <infinity> jtaylor: See, eg: https://buildd.debian.org/status/logs.php?pkg=cython&arch=powerpc
[17:16] <jtaylor> k thx
[17:16] <infinity> (Replace "powerpc" with "armel" or "sparc" to see the pattern)
[17:23] <demosfere> Can someone help me? i'm having problems when building this recipe https://code.launchpad.net/~kedos-project/+recipe/bottomlauncher-daily , it gives me error No package 'dbusmenu-glib-0.4' found No package 'dbusmenu-gtk3-0.4' found , this is my buildlog : https://launchpadlibrarian.net/123265587/buildlog_ubuntu-raring-amd64.bottomlauncher_0.2.0-0-1~5~raring1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[17:26] <jtaylor> demosfere: you need to depend on libdbusmenu-gtk3-dev
[17:26] <demosfere> jtaylor: i've already did that
[17:27] <jtaylor> demosfere: you have libdbusmenu-gtk3-dev (>= 0.6.2) | libcairo2-dev
[17:28] <jtaylor> drop the or dependency
[17:32] <demosfere> jtaylor: what exactly should i do?
[17:33] <demosfere> jtaylor: can you pastebin control file after you fix it?
[17:33] <infinity> demosfere: He told you how to fix it...
[17:33] <infinity> demosfere: s/  | libcairo2-dev//
[17:34] <demosfere> infinity: the problem is that this package is used in the app
[17:36] <infinity> demosfere: Uhm.  What?
[17:36] <infinity> demosfere: You build-depend on libcairo2-dev, AND you build-depend on libdbusmenu-gtk3-dev|libcairo2-dev.
[17:36] <demosfere> infinity: the error is No package 'dbusmenu-glib-0.4' found No package 'dbusmenu-gtk3-0.4
[17:37] <infinity> demosfere: libdbusmenu-gtk3-dev gets (correctly) ignored because you're already installing libcairo2-dev, which you claimed was an adequate substitute.
[17:37] <jtaylor> demosfere: the error tells you the .pc file is missing
[17:37] <infinity> demosfere: Thus, libdbusmenu-gtk3-dev isn't being installed.
[17:37] <jtaylor> that .pc file is provided by libdbusmenu-gtk3-dev
[17:37] <infinity> demosfere: So, drop the " | libcairo2-dev"
[17:37] <jtaylor> see: apt-file list libdbusmenu-gtk3-dev | grep -E ".pc$"
[17:37] <demosfere> infinity: i'll try and see if it work
[17:40] <demosfere> infinity: jtaylor please stay here until i let you know if it works now :)
[17:40] <infinity> demosfere: Uhm.
[17:40] <infinity> demosfere: That was wrong. :P
[17:40] <infinity> -               libcairo2-dev,
[17:40] <infinity> -               libdbusmenu-gtk3-dev (>= 0.6.2) | libcairo2-dev,
[17:40] <infinity> +               libcairo2-dev | libcairo2-dev,
[17:40] <infinity> ^-- That won't fix anything...
[17:41] <infinity> That should read, simply:
[17:41] <infinity> libcairo2-dev,
[17:41] <infinity> libdbusmenu-gtk3-dev  (>= 0.6.2),
[17:41] <infinity> ---
[17:41] <infinity> Minus the extra space there.  My keyboard's repeating, apparently.
[17:42] <demosfere> infinity: i'm confused :P , what should i do now
[17:43] <infinity> demosfere: You want to build-depend on libcairo2-dev and libdbusmenu-gtk3-dev, right?  This isn't any different from any of your other build-deps.
[17:43] <infinity> demosfere: Having "foo | bar" means "either foo or bar is okay, we don't need both".
[17:44] <infinity> demosfere: And having "foo | foo", when you also want bar (which is what you did to "fix" it) is extra strange.
[17:44] <demosfere> infinity: now i'm totally confused :P
[17:45] <infinity> demosfere: The fix you committed at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kedos-project/bottomlauncher-pkg/trunk/revision/7
[17:45] <infinity> demosfere: You completely removed the build-dep on libdbusmenu-gtk3-dev
[17:45] <demosfere> infinity:and this will make it work?
[17:46] <infinity> Past tense.  You removED the build-dep.  You shouldn't have done that.
[17:46] <infinity> You need libdbusmenu-gtk3-dev
[17:47] <demosfere> infinity: so i should re-add libdbusmenu-gtk3-dev and then ?
[17:47] <infinity> demosfere: The line that says "libcairo2-dev | libcairo2-dev," should just say "libcairo2-dev," and then you also want a line that says "libdbusmenu-gtk3-dev (>= 0.6.2),"
[17:50] <demosfere> infinity: i think this is what you told me to do : http://pastiebin.com/?page=p&id=50a7ce358ac86
[17:50] <demosfere> infinity: is it right ^
[17:50] <demosfere> ?
[17:51] <jtaylor> looks good
[17:51] <infinity> I'd complain about the whitespace, but yeah.  That should do.
[17:52] <demosfere> infinity: i'm pushing and building ... i'll let you know if it wrks
[17:52] <infinity> Assuming nothing freaks out about the space between the ) and the comma, but probably not.
[17:53] <demosfere> infinity: ^ you mean it's wrong and causes failure in building ?
[17:53] <infinity> demosfere: For correctness, that space really shouldn't be there.  No idea if any of the tools parsing control will care, though.
[17:53] <infinity> demosfere: As in, "libdbusmenu-gtk3-dev (>= 0.6.2) ," should be "libdbusmenu-gtk3-dev (>= 0.6.2),"
[17:53] <demosfere> infinity: i'll remove after i make sure building works :)
[17:58] <demosfere> infinity: offtopic , do you want to join my team?
[17:58] <demosfere> infinity: failed to build https://launchpadlibrarian.net/123283341/buildlog_ubuntu-quantal-i386.bottomlauncher_0.2.0-0-1~5~quantal1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[18:01] <demosfere> infinity: any idea?
[18:01] <demosfere> jtaylor: ^^
[18:07] <jtaylor> demosfere: I don't see libdbusmenu-gtk3-dev being installed, what did you build there?
[18:08] <demosfere> Source: bottomlauncher Section: utils Priority: optional Maintainer: Drake Miller<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 8.1.2ubuntu2),                gnome-common,                valac-0.18 (>= 0.18.0),                libbamf3-dev (>= 0.2.92),                libdbusmenu-gtk3-dev (>= 0.6.2) , 	       libcairo2-dev,                libgdk-pixbuf2.0-dev, 	       libdbusmenu-glib-dev, 	       libdbusmenu-glib4,
[18:09] <demosfere> jtaylor: this is the control file of the current revision : http://pastiebin.com/?page=p&id=50a7d2a687731
[18:10] <infinity> The control file doesn't come close to matching the build-deps sbuild ends up looking for.  I'm inclined to blame whitespace here.
[18:11] <infinity> Perhaps wrap-and-sort(1) would unbreak your issues.  Or you could more carefully rewrite that line.
[18:12] <infinity> Though, not sure if it's smart enough to fix tabs/spaces and other things.
[18:13] <demosfere> infinity: spaces doesn't making an error
[18:13] <demosfere> infinity: i think the problem is by configure file in the source code
[18:14] <infinity> No...
[18:14] <infinity> The problem is that your build-deps aren't all being installed.
[18:14] <infinity> Compare this to your control file:
[18:14] <infinity> Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 8.1.2ubuntu2), gnome-common, valac-0.18 (>= 0.18.0), libbamf3-dev (>= 0.2.92), libcairo2-dev, libgdk-pixbuf2.0-dev, libgee-dev (>= 0.5.2), libglib2.0-dev (>= 2.28.0), libgtk-3-dev (>= 3.0.0), libwnck-3-dev, libx11-dev, libceleste-dev
[18:14] <infinity> Note that it doesn't list everything listed in your control.
[18:15] <jtaylor> infinity: cython failed :(
[18:15] <demosfere> why it's not installing them?
[18:16] <infinity> demosfere: Like I said, my guess is bad whitespace.  You might want to test locally.
[18:16] <infinity> jtaylor: Gah.
[18:16] <demosfere> i'll try
[18:17] <infinity> jtaylor: Oh, probably a missing build-dep on python3-all-dev
[18:17] <infinity> jtaylor: Err, no, it's there.
[18:17] <infinity> Hrm.
[18:17] <jtaylor> its strange
[18:17]  * infinity goes hunting for pyconfig.h
[18:19] <jtaylor> possibly multiarch issue
[18:19] <infinity> Is our python more multiarchy than Debian's?
[18:19] <infinity> doko: ^
[18:20] <jtaylor> I'm just guessing, let me check debian
[18:20] <infinity> doko: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/123283466/buildlog_ubuntu-raring-amd64.cython_0.17.1-1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[18:20] <infinity> doko: Ideas?
[18:20] <demosfere> infinity: dammit ! still doesn't work
[18:20] <infinity> jtaylor: It's not FTBFS in Debian, hence the curiosity.
[18:20] <doko> infinity, yes, use python-config --includes
[18:21] <doko> python3-config even
[18:21] <infinity> demosfere: Replace all those tabs with spaces and see how that goes.
[18:21] <infinity> doko: This is Ubuntu-specific at this point?
[18:21] <infinity> doko: (Same build is fine in experimental)
[18:22] <demosfere> infinity: i've removed empty spaces already and didn't work
[18:22] <doko> no, same versions
[18:22] <jtaylor> the pyconfig.h is in the same place in debian
[18:22] <jtaylor> weird
[18:22] <infinity> Oh, but this built in Debian in September.
[18:23] <infinity> Multiarch python probably happened after that?
[18:23] <jtaylor> I'm currently test building, I'll try to cook up a patch when I reproduced the failure
[18:23] <infinity> Heh.  I'm there too. :P
[18:24] <jtaylor> nice I got a different error ..
[18:24] <ricotz> demosfere, better to actually rebuild the source package with the recipe than just rebuilding the old source in ppa again
[18:24] <demosfere> Why dpkg is so complicated
[18:24] <demosfere> ?
[18:26] <demosfere> ricotz: i don't understand
[18:26] <infinity> jtaylor: Hrm, looks like the right -I/foo is in CFLAGS but not CPPFLAGS.
[18:27] <demosfere> ricotz: you built plank , i think you know in packaging it more than anyone else ..
[18:27] <ricotz> demosfere, your pastes indicate that you are not generating a new source package containing the new packaging
[18:29] <demosfere> ricotz: i just branched your deb-packaging and modified it to bottomlauncher .. and it won't work
[18:29] <demosfere> ricotz: but i think the problem is by configure
[18:29] <jtaylor> the configure is probably fine
[18:30] <ricotz> https://code.launchpad.net/~kedos-project/+recipe/bottomlauncher-daily
[18:30] <infinity> demosfere: The problem, as stated several times, is that your build-deps aren't being installed, which is due to a malformed debian/control.
[18:30] <ricotz> demosfere, hi the rebuild button in there
[18:31] <ricotz> infinity, the control file is fine, dpkg can handle those mix ups
[18:31] <infinity> ricotz: It *was* malformed before we started helping out.
[18:31] <infinity> ricotz: I'm not convinced that it isn't still, but we'll see after a rebuild. :P
[18:31] <demosfere> ricotz: i've tried to rebuild a lot of times .. why build-deps aren't being installed
[18:31] <ricotz> infinity, ok, but he is building the same source again
[18:31] <ricotz> infinity, which doesnt include the new packaging fixes
[18:33] <demosfere> ricotz: so the the deb-packaging doesn't match with the source?
[18:33] <ricotz> as i said "you are not generating a new source package containing the new packaging"
[18:34] <ricotz> you need to rebuild the recipe not just the already generated source package in the ppa
[18:35] <doko> infinity, heh, llvm-3.2 and clang ftbfs due to missing b-d on python
[18:36] <ricotz> doko, oh, hi, will this get sync asap to raring if done :)
[18:36] <infinity> doko: Well, that's easy enough to fix, at least.
[18:36] <ricotz> mesa git already depends on it
[18:37] <doko> you should *not* depend on an unreleased version yet
[18:38]  * infinity thinks that perhaps he should step away from the computer and enjoy the sunny Saturday outside for a bit.
[18:38] <ricotz> doko, it isnt me depend on it but a unreleased mesa (in xedgers)
[18:39] <ricotz> the mesa radeon dev introduced it, so just saying would be great to have 3.2rc1
[18:40] <ricotz> doko, https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/unstable/+sourcepub/2780997/+listing-archive-extra
[18:40] <ricotz> here is an earlier snapshot
[19:07] <jtaylor> doko: distutils.sysconfig.get_python_inc() doesn't return the multiarch path with python3.3
[19:07] <jtaylor> shouldn'T that return the same as python3.3-config?
[19:09] <tumbleweed> wiki.ubuntu.com seem sto have the wrong cert today
[19:24] <jtaylor> is the plat_specific flag in get_python_inc ubuntu specific?
[19:24] <jtaylor> or upstreamable?
[19:27] <jtaylor> can'T find anything in the patches, so I#m assuming upstream
[20:35] <jtaylor> a I hate reportbug ...
[20:35] <jtaylor> friggin think always crashes after I write my nice text ._.
[20:38] <jtaylor> infinity: I forwarded a cython patch to debian
[20:45] <jtaylor> 693555
[22:20] <infinity> jtaylor: Awesome, thanks.  I'll toss that same patch at Ubuntu in a second too, many thanks for hunting it down.
[22:32] <doko> jtaylor, you need to call it twice, the second time with plat_specific=1
[22:33] <jtaylor> doko: yes thanks I figured that out already
[23:54] <infinity> jtaylor: Do, in light of doko's comments, was there a followup patch?
[23:54] <jtaylor> infinity: no, dokos comment is how I implemented in the patch
[23:55] <infinity> jtaylor: Oh, check.  Kay.  I'll snag the patch from the bug and upload to Ubuntu then.
[23:55] <jtaylor> you may also want to wait a bit, I'm sure the debian maintainer will do a swift upload if we ask him
[23:55] <infinity> He may.  He may not.  No harm done in us uploading a fix and then syncing later.
[23:55] <jtaylor> its a very long building package
[23:55] <infinity> And all our buildds are idle and bored.
[23:55] <infinity> Weekend are like that.
[23:56] <infinity> s/Weekend/Weekends/