[03:25] <odla> michaelfavia, ah...if you have to ask should you be using it?
[03:26] <Pablo> m00
[03:26] <michaelfavia> odla: im an experienced linux user but a new ubuntite ;)
[03:26] <holobyted> I'm confused about installing official nVidia drivers.. some pages say I need to blacklist agpgart and its derivatives, some others say I need it for nvagp. Can anyone point me to a trustworthy source?
[03:26] <xored> SAAD3000: it because the diffrent linespace
[03:26] <vladuz976> how can i make my bash prompt display the current directory?
[03:26] <michaelfavia> just dont know how the project is organized.
[03:26] <odla> michaelfavia, dapper is what it should point to not breezy
[03:26] <hatake_kakashi> naetrick: there's another way, but I never tried it.. its going through the method of mounting it similar to what I said, using chroot and then unmounting the previous / drive (becareful though)
[03:26] <xored> yes, got it !
[03:26] <shortjollio> how do i know if im 386 or 586?
[03:26] <yanis> oof, there is a very critical bug in ubuntu that it's still unsolvable
[03:27] <navarone> cycom have you read this page yet...?  http://osunix.com/?m=200504    about 3/4 down page ...title is WPC3<yada> <yada>
[03:27] <SAAD3000> xored alright done
[03:27] <TXmaw> hey, does anybody know a good program for running rmvb files?
[03:27] <yanis> this one: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1
[03:27] <xored> where ?
[03:27] <brenner> shortjollio: what cpu?
[03:27] <naetrick> hatake_kakashi: I think it is configured correctly in my lilo.conf
[03:27] <xored> link, i need one :)
[03:27] <SAAD3000> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8624
[03:27] <naetrick> I added "root=/dev/hda3", which is my root partition
[03:27] <naetrick> or should I be doing something else? I don't think so, because the same lilo.conf works for the other kernel
[03:27] <shortjollio> brenner, i forgot, is there a way to check without opening up my case
[03:28] <naetrick> how would I automate that at boot
[03:28] <xored> SAAD3000: what kind of router are you using ?
[03:28] <brenner> shortjollio: try cat /proc/cpuinfo
[03:28] <michaelfavia> odla: just deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted
[03:29] <odla> michaelfavia, well that one and just 'dapper'
[03:29] <hatake_kakashi> naetrick: imo.. that should be set, you need to reload lilo to update its specific settings that you specified in lilo.conf. When you reboot next time, lilo should mount /dev/hda3 as /
[03:29] <SAAD3000> xored I really don't know its up the roof not mine.
[03:29] <xored> SAAD3000: everything looks fine for me here, expect try please to deactvate eth0
[03:29] <odla> michaelfavia, you should have several entries in /etc/apt/sources.list just change the word 'breezy' to 'dappery
[03:29] <shortjollio> brenner, now what am i looking for in this info
[03:29] <odla> dapper'
[03:29] <xored> SAAD3000: ifconfig eth0 down
[03:29] <SAAD3000> xored eth0 for the wireless and its already deactivated
[03:30] <SAAD3000> i guess so.
[03:30] <xored> SAAD3000: ok fine, a yes, i plaesed you to make it with -a, ok
[03:30] <tonyyarusso> Sweet, my grub to gdm time is 35 seconds.
[03:30] <xored> SAAD3000: ok, routing table seems to be okey, so the last step will be the DNS
[03:30] <ITSa341> tonyyarusso    Nice
[03:30] <SAAD3000> ya
[03:30] <SAAD3000> xored dns in xp here is the same as the gw
[03:30] <xored> SAAD3000: coudl you ping the router ?
[03:30] <michaelfavia> odla: ok so i enabled each of those repos... thanks...
[03:30] <brenner> shortjollio: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep name
[03:31] <BigDaddy> OK, I can still not get gedit open from the terminal, therefore I cannot overwrite xorg.conf. Plus I cannot find another text editor. the "root" command doesn't seem to work on this, nor do "su". how else can I get root priveldeges on this file?
[03:31] <SAAD3000> nope i can't. on both i can't
[03:31] <odla> michaelfavia, ok...then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:31] <odla> and you're running dapper
[03:31] <ITSa341> wow, installing WinXP takes a while under win4lin
[03:31] <pepsi> BigDaddy, sudo
[03:32] <IdleOne> BigDaddy:  sudo
[03:32] <shortjollio> brenner, amd duron(tm)
[03:32] <BigDaddy> pepse - sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf is wat started this whole thing
[03:32] <tonyyarusso> ITSa341: It takes a while normally!
[03:32] <Knowerrors> hyperactivecrond: here is pastebin of lsmod http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8625
[03:32] <Aaron_Mason> !shaper
[03:32] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Aaron_Mason
[03:32] <MeshGearFox> Uh, hi~. I had this question about installing -- namely, the "FATs do not match!" error message that the partioner spits out. If anyone knows anything about fixing this or workarounds..
[03:32] <michaelfavia> odla: does synaptic not use the same sources file as apt?
[03:32] <xored> SAAD3000: ok you CANNOT pig your router frm XP ?
[03:32] <SAAD3000> xored I can't ping the router.
[03:32] <pepsi> BigDaddy, why cant you run gedit? use nano then
[03:32] <xored> SAAD3000: ok its firwalled
[03:32] <pianoboy3333> Anyone here us SharpMusique?
[03:32] <brenner> shortjollio: linux-k7
[03:32] <odla> michaelfavia, it does
[03:33] <Aaron_Mason> does anybody know how to get shapecfg working?
[03:33] <SAAD3000> xored yes I can't ping the router from xp too.
[03:33] <odla> i don't use synaptic though...i just use the terminal
[03:33] <michaelfavia> dist-upgrade is a new one to me.. what does it do?
[03:33] <xored> SAAD3000: ok the last step is too try to ping a ip directyl without dns
[03:33] <ITSa341> tonyyarusso  I'm used to Linspire and their 8 minute install on my other machine. I guess I'm spoiled that way.
[03:33] <shortjollio> brenner, so which version of mplayer should i get
[03:33] <IdleOne> michaelfavia:  it upgrades kernel
[03:33] <shortjollio> ?
[03:33] <BigDaddy> I ran nano, but it changed my terminal window. is that supposed to be my text editor?
[03:33] <SAAD3000> xored how can I do thaT?
[03:33] <darthbutcher> !opera
[03:33] <ubotu> it has been said that opera is not in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[03:33] <xored> SAAD3000: <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:33] <darthbutcher> !opera 9.1
[03:33] <ubotu> darthbutcher: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:33] <xored> SAAD3000: ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:33] <SAAD3000> xored Should i remove the dns in xp?
[03:33] <pepsi> BigDaddy, yeah its a text editor
[03:33] <xored> no
[03:33] <michaelfavia> IdleOne: ahh... thanks i think that used to just be and excludes lasti used apt.
[03:34] <shortjollio> brenner, nm i got it thx so much man
[03:34] <brenner> shortjollio: mplayer-k6 probably
[03:34] <Eleaf> hi
[03:34] <BigDaddy> pepsi - here is what happens when I try the sudo gedit... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8622
[03:34] <brenner> shortjollio: read the package descr.
[03:34] <xored> SAAD3000: please go down to youbuntu and try to do that ping
[03:34] <odla> IdleOne, it also adds new packages...it doesn't just upgrade the kernel
[03:34] <SAAD3000> xored request timed out
[03:34] <kbrooks> my disabilities pressentation: http://kbrooks.ath.cx/disabilities.pdf
[03:34] <fangorious> I seem to have lost the use of the multimedia keys to control rhythmbox
[03:34] <xored> SAAD3000: under xp or ubuntu ?
[03:34] <SAAD3000> xp
[03:34] <tonyyarusso> ITSa341: Ah, I see.  (Had to redo Windows installations a number of times.  Completely ate my spring break once.  Disgusting.)
[03:34] <IdleOne> odla:  yeah that too
[03:34] <shortjollio> bremnner, so how did u know i needed k7?
[03:34] <odla> you can upgrade the kernel with just a plain old upgrade
[03:34] <xored> SAAD3000: this is impossible ?
[03:34] <SAAD3000> yep
[03:34] <SAAD3000> i can't ping it on xp
[03:35] <brenner> shortjollio: k7 is for duron/athlon cpus
[03:35] <SAAD3000> it times out.
[03:35] <Aaron_Mason> where do I go to add a kernel module?
[03:35] <michaelfavia> odla: is it possible that my flight3 base install is up to date or am i miconfigured?
[03:35] <xored> SAAD3000:  ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:35] <odla> michaelfavia, do you have a flight3 cd?
[03:35] <Zen> fglrx isn't working since I upgraded--I followed the guide at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=78466 to the letter
[03:35] <ITSa341> tonyyarusso Even the factory restore disks on this comp only take about 20 minutes to image winXP and all the extras. It's been years since I actually did a manual install of WinXP
[03:35] <odla> michaelfavia, oh no...you would definitely need to upgrade
[03:36] <odla> michaelfavia, paste your sources.list and link it here
[03:36] <SAAD3000> xored timed out also, I dont think the admin allows pinging ips outside the lan
[03:36] <Nightshade> is it common for ext3 parts to make the hard drive grind for hours on end when the system isn't doing anything?
[03:36] <michaelfavia> odla: in process.
[03:36] <pepsi> BigDaddy, well i dunno what to tell you buddy, i never edit xorg.conf with gedit, always used nano
[03:36] <xored> SAAD3000: "ok"
[03:37] <pepsi> BigDaddy, although i am able to edit it with gedit, so i dunno why you cant
[03:37] <xored> SAAD3000: this is for me, absolutely "unclear" why oyu are nt able to ping out but "ok"
[03:37] <michaelfavia> odla: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8626 merci
[03:37] <SAAD3000> xored am really surprised really,the net worked on suse. why not ubuntu?
[03:37] <brenner> Nightshade: no
[03:37] <MeshGearFox> Night, I wouldn't imagine so.
[03:37] <dirtbiker> whats a good guide to installing linux  app?
[03:37] <Nightshade> hmm
[03:37] <Aaron_Mason> how do  I make modules load in the kernel at boot time?
[03:38] <BigDaddy> Aha! got it open with nano
[03:38] <_jason> ubotu: tell dirtbiker about synaptic
[03:38] <xored> SAAD3000: to be honest, i do not knwo. U have some really strange network configuration arround
[03:38] <Nightshade> somefin weird is got to be going on then
[03:38] <BigDaddy> hopefully it will let me overwrite it
[03:38] <michaelfavia> dirtbiker: dual boot or just linux?
[03:38] <darthbutcher> I just installed the latest Opera beta.
[03:38] <darthbutcher> :-D
[03:38] <odla> michaelfavia, remove the hash marks before the work 'deb' except for the backports stuff
[03:38] <Aaron_Mason> more to the point, what file do I use to load the shaper module?
[03:38] <brenner> Nightshade: try running top, to see what's using resources
[03:38] <dirtbiker> just linux
[03:38] <SAAD3000> xored on SuSE and on Xp works but on ubuntu doesn't.
[03:38] <xored> SAAD3000: maybe your admin is doing some MAC filtering and your mac of mabye the onboard card has been changed under ubuntu
[03:38] <darthbutcher> It is pretty damn sweet!
[03:38] <dirtbiker> michaelfavia: just linux
[03:38] <xored> SAAD3000: compare both macs
[03:38] <SAAD3000> wait let me compare
[03:38] <Nightshade> Xorg is at the top, no surprise there followed by top.
[03:39] <michaelfavia> dirtbiker: any special equipment like wifi and gfx cards?
[03:39] <shortjollio> brenner, when i go to play a video online it gets to 99% buffering and then stops
[03:39] <Nightshade> nothing out of the ordinary
[03:39] <michaelfavia> odla: all of them?
[03:39] <dirtbiker> michaelfavia: well just an nvidia
[03:39] <brenner> shortjollio: i don't use mplayer.  try hitting the forum
[03:39] <BigDaddy> pepsi - um, how do I select all the text in nano? I can't shift+arrows
[03:39] <michaelfavia> dirtbiker: wired internet?
[03:39] <dirtbiker> michaelfavia: gfx cars
[03:39] <SAAD3000> xored exactly the same
[03:39] <shortjollio> brenner, huh?
[03:40] <shortjollio> brenner, what do u use then instead of mplayer?
[03:40] <darthbutcher> !aim
[03:40] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, darthbutcher
[03:40] <pepsi> BigDaddy, you cant
[03:40] <dirtbiker> michaelfavia: yeah ethernet
[03:40] <MeshGearFox> BTW, I think the partition in question is the XP restore partition. It's the only FAT32 one. I tried to hide it, but after aborting the Kubuntu install (it wasn't taking my chanes to the partitions), the system refused to boot and went into, like, something involving my network card (Yukon Marvell of some sort). The drive was hidden, still showed upin the partitioner ,though, so I set it to NOT mount. Anyway, erm... I don't know wh
[03:40] <brenner> shortjollio: totem
[03:40] <IdleOne> darthbutcher:  gaim
[03:40] <pepsi> BigDaddy, the best you can do is cut a line and paste it somewhere else
[03:40] <darthbutcher> IdleOne: I use GAIM
[03:40] <pepsi> ^K and ^U
[03:40] <darthbutcher> I was seeing if I could get any better things.
[03:40] <xored> SAAD3000: no idea really. Try to get a other DNS server, not the local one of the router
[03:40] <darthbutcher> Actually, I use Kopete now.
[03:40] <michaelfavia> dirtbiker: then the process is prettyy simple... downlaod an iso either from the mirror or via a bittorrent... burn it to a disk... put disk in drive and restart...
[03:40] <Mordof> yay! i found a solution for playing midis in ubuntu! :D
[03:41] <xored> SAAD3000: put it in the /etc/resolf.conf and try again
[03:41] <Aaron_Mason> How do you set up modules to load when you boot?
[03:41] <SAAD3000> xored how ?
[03:41] <MeshGearFox> And the first hit for googling "fats don'
[03:41] <odla> michaelfavia, like this...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8627
[03:41] <odla> you can copy and paste that if you want
[03:41] <michaelfavia> make sure you boot to cds in your bios..
[03:41] <Hysty> Mordof, cool
[03:41] <darthbutcher> !kxdocker
[03:41] <ubotu> darthbutcher: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:41] <shortjollio> brenner, totem says it could not play because np decoders found to handle the stream
[03:41] <odla> then at a terminal...sudo apt-get update
[03:41] <darthbutcher> Does anyone here use KX Docker?
[03:41] <Mordof> Hysty: i converted them all over into mp3 in windows
[03:41] <MeshGearFox> t match" is sort of distrubing XD. anyway, I guess I was more wondering if anyone knew if it'd be damaging or something to just ignore the FATs... not matching. As I said, recovery partition, so I'm not going to USe it.
[03:41] <odla> then sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:41] <darthbutcher> http://www.xiaprojects.com/www/prodotti/kxdocker/main.php
[03:41] <xored> SAAD3000: <IP_ADDRESS> take this one and replace the one in your resolf.conf
[03:41] <mk501> hi all, I'm trying to set up backports so I can install newest Firefox, but synaptic is giving me errors; has the path to backports changed?
[03:41] <Hysty> Mordof, lol
[03:41] <brenner> shortjollio: if you're using totem, use totem-xine w/ w32codecs
[03:42] <IdleOne> tell mk501  about firefox1.5
[03:42] <SAAD3000> xored oke one last chance if it didn't work i'll uninstall ubuntu.
[03:42] <SAAD3000> :(
[03:42] <IdleOne> !tell mk501  about firefox1.5
[03:42] <bob832> there is a wiki article about installing firefox 1.5
[03:42] <IdleOne> yup
[03:42] <bob832> that works too
[03:42] <michaelfavia> SAAD3000: what net card?
[03:43] <SAAD3000> broadcom michaelfavia
[03:43] <michaelfavia> which one?
[03:43] <SAAD3000> michaelfavia i can ping myself
[03:43] <_jason> mk501: it used to be mirrormax, it no longer is.  I'll have the bot send you a link.  But as was mentioned, ff1.5 has not been backported
[03:43] <Aaron_Mason> w00t, it works now
[03:43] <_jason> ubotu: tell mk501 about easysource
[03:43] <michaelfavia> so can anyone without a network card ;)
[03:43] <michaelfavia> lo :)
[03:44] <SAAD3000> michaelfavia Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller thats what under xp device manager
[03:44] <mk501> great! thanks _jason & IdleOne....I really appreciate it
[03:44] <michaelfavia> what ablout lspci output
[03:44] <michaelfavia> about
[03:44] <SAAD3000> michaelfavia No i meant the 192.x.x.x ip
[03:44] <SAAD3000> michaelfavia I have to restart .
[03:44] <BigDaddy> OK, how about Nautilus? if I sudo Nautilus, will that give me root rights in Nautilus and in anything I open from with in it?
[03:44] <michaelfavia> ahh dual boot?
[03:44] <SAAD3000> michaelfavia ya
[03:45] <dirtbiker> michaelfavia: oh, I installed linux. I'm looking for guide to installing those tar.gz archives. Maybe an explaination of which folder in the root are for.
[03:45] <IdleOne> BigDaddy:  sudo gives you root rights
[03:45] <SAAD3000> michaelfavia the net works on xp but not on ubuntu
[03:45] <BigDaddy> nevermind, sudo Nautilus does nothing
[03:45] <Syco54645> can anyone suggest a program that i can limit the total speeding going in and out of my box for the net?  i am on a shared network and would like to be fair since everyone else is using netlimiter
[03:45] <Phelan> BigDaddy: Are you getting a poweruser error?
[03:45] <SAAD3000> michaelfavia I also saw the networkcard the exact name during the installation.
[03:45] <michaelfavia> SAAD3000: well that is because you have windows drivers installed... you need drivers in linux.. either opensoure ones or an adapter for your proprietary ones...
[03:46] <IdleOne> SAAD3000:  you have no internet connection with ubuntu?
[03:46] <BigDaddy> IdleOne - Phelan - here is my error
[03:46] <BigDaddy> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8622
[03:46] <BigDaddy> I get that when I sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:46] <SAAD3000> IdleOne Yes its WEIRD man am telling you, I got xp with internet and ubuntu without!! on the same machine
[03:46] <michaelfavia> SAAD3000: that isnt wierd it is normal.
[03:47] <Ralith> right
[03:47] <Hysty> grr to non-resuming file servers
[03:47] <Ralith> I was talking to somone
[03:47] <SAAD3000> michaelfavia if there is something wrong with the name of the nic on ubuntu how did i pinged my lan ip.?
[03:47] <Ralith> then X locked up my box.
[03:47] <IdleOne> SAAD3000:  this might sound stupid but is eth0 enabled ?
[03:47] <odla> michaelfavia, are you upgrading now...did it work fro you?
[03:47] <Ralith> brenner: it was you, right?
[03:47] <SAAD3000> IdleOne yes its enabled i have eth0 for wirless and eth1 for nic
[03:47] <michaelfavia> odla: actually i was side tracked. ;) getting back to it now
[03:47] <brenner> Ralith: yes
[03:47] <BigDaddy> SAAD3000 - are you having internet connectivity problems?
[03:48] <shortjollio> brenner, what do i need to play wmv?
[03:48] <SAAD3000> BigDaddy ya
[03:48] <brenner> shortjollio: w32codecs
[03:48] <IdleOne> SAAD3000:  ok...wires all plugged in properly...because from what i can see its not a software issue so maybe hardware ??
[03:48] <BigDaddy> shortjollo - an old preist and a young preist
[03:48] <BigDaddy> the power of christ compells you
[03:48] <BigDaddy> SAAD3000 - are you on DSL? PPPoE?
[03:48] <SAAD3000> IdleOne if its a hardware issue how am online now chatting with you fine guys ;>
[03:49] <IdleOne> SAAD3000:  maybe having wireless and nic enabled at same time is confusing ubuntu?
[03:49] <SAAD3000> BigDaddy neither of those. I just add my static ip,mask,gw,dns and proxy settings.
[03:49] <Phelan> BigDaddy: I'm not very experienced with Linux, but I thought you were having a similar error I had, which I used a sudo command to gain root access. What it almost looks like to me though, is the file is corrupt or something. I say that, because it's outright failing, and not giving an access violation error or saying it isn't there...
[03:49] <SAAD3000> IdleOne no i have the wireless disabled
[03:49] <IdleOne> SAAD3000:  just trying to deduce :)
[03:49] <SAAD3000> IdleOne its ok.
[03:50] <dirtbiker> I'm looking for guide to installing those tar.gz archives. Maybe an explaination of which folder in the root are for.
[03:50] <BigDaddy> I just did a bunch of updates. Is it like windows where I need to reboot?
[03:50] <IdleOne> SAAD3000:  take a boot to it maybe that will fix it...lol
[03:50] <SAAD3000> IdleOne can't boot the laptop can i ;>
[03:50] <BigDaddy> SAAD3000 - sorry man, I just know how to do the PPPoE
[03:50] <shortjollio> brenner, i cant find w32codecs, is that in synaptic under just that name?
[03:50] <IdleOne> BigDaddy:  not usauly
[03:50] <brenner> ubotu: tell shortjollio about w32codecs
[03:50] <SAAD3000> I never had this problem before.
[03:51] <IdleOne> SAAD3000:  nope I wouldnt
[03:51] <Xenguy> BigDaddy: you reboot for kernel upgrades; that's it
[03:51] <BigDaddy> is there a better terminal than GNOME terminal?
[03:51] <SAAD3000> BigDaddy ETERM ;>
[03:51] <Xenguy> BigDaddy: define better
[03:51] <BigDaddy> Xenguy - I thought that was about the onlything I ever heard about rebooting in linux
[03:52] <Phelan> Dirtbiker: Try this site: http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver
[03:52] <BigDaddy> Xenguy - good point. More popular amongst the computer knowledgable, but ubuntu newbie?
[03:52] <BigDaddy> Dirstbiker, welcome to the club. That is how my evening started out!
[03:52] <Phelan> DirtBiker The string after the .org/ isn't important in your matter. I needed it for something. But tha tsite might help
[03:52] <_jason> ubotu: tell dirtbiker about nvidia
[03:52] <linkd> i like gnome-terminal :/
[03:53] <SAAD3000> so I guess i get back to suse.
[03:53] <SAAD3000> ;<
[03:53] <_jason> Phelan: please don't recommend ubuntuguide, it is outdated
[03:53] <Madpilot> !ubuntuguide
[03:53] <ubotu> I heard ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[03:53] <linkd> in fact its my favorite. the only other one which comes near is eterm, if you want to spend long configuring it
[03:53] <BigDaddy> no i don't. at least not ATM
[03:53] <Phelan> _jason: Sorry. It simply helped me, so I figured he might find some use out of it.
[03:54] <_jason> Phelan: understandable, just letting you know there are better docs like help.ubuntu.com and the wiki.  Those are preferred here
[03:54] <Xenguy> BigDaddy: gnome-terminal and konsole are the 'heavy-weights'; light terminals are xterm, rxvt, aterm etc.
[03:55] <Phelan> _jason: NP.
[03:55] <whiter> whats a good gui ftp client
[03:55] <sopionblax> the xfce terminal is nice
[03:55] <whiter> for ubuntu
[03:55] <eodchop> I am trying to install the w32 codecs and I get :dpkg: status database area is locked by another process Can anyone help?
[03:55] <IdleOne> anybody know why gnomebaker keeps spitting out cd's and asking for a cd?
[03:56] <_jason> eodchop: close synaptic
[03:56] <brenner> whiter: gftp works fine for me
[03:56] <eodchop> it is closed
[03:56] <brenner> whiter: you can also just use nautilus
[03:56] <Xenguy> whiter: gftp seems to be mentioned often (and can do scp/sftp)
[03:56] <_jason> eodchop: do you have update manager or any other apt process running?
[03:57] <Madpilot> whiter: Nautilus (the file manager) can do most FTP stuff
[03:57] <eodchop> just a terminal, gaim and firefox
[03:57] <eodchop> is there an task manager where i could check process?
[03:57] <eodchop> processes*?
[03:58] <_jason> eodchop: system tools > system monitor, top, ps
[03:58] <Xenguy> eodchop: top
[03:58] <whiter> gftp keeps closing when i try to transfer
[03:58] <Steve_p> Does anyone know if gcc-4.1 is going to be in dapper?
[03:58] <Madpilot> eobanb: or Applications --> System Tools --> System Monitor - Processes tab there
[03:58] <eodchop> ok...I got it would update notifier cuase it to do that? that is all i can see on there.
[03:59] <Madpilot> whiter: gFTP bites - use Nautilus's FTP functions if you can
[03:59] <whiter> how can i do it with nautilus?
[03:59] <whiter> cause its using bread crumb navigation, no where to put the ftp address
[03:59] <IdleOne> eodchop: I think it might
[03:59] <Madpilot> whiter: File --> Connect to Server
[03:59] <_jason> eodchop: yeah, let it do its thing is probably the best course of action
[03:59] <eodchop> can i safely kill it with system monitor?
[04:00] <IdleOne> eodchop:  finish update first
[04:00] <eodchop> ok i have to restart then
[04:00] <eodchop> thank you
[04:01] <IdleOne> shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[04:01] <whiter> okay well
[04:01] <whiter> natilus isnt working
[04:01] <shortjollio> brenner, dude ur my biggest hero thx so much
[04:02] <brenner> np
[04:02] <IdleOne> whiter: http://www.thefreecountry.com/webmaster/freeftpclients.shtml
[04:03] <Aaron_Mason> anybody know where I can find a good tute for shapecfg?
[04:03] <Madpilot> FileZilla has a Linux port, but it's still in beta - I'll be a very happy Ubuntunian when I can install that...
[04:03] <Nightshade> ok, i'm pulling my hair out here (i'm bald).  is there a way to setup bind to act as a caching name server on my network so i can setup all of my machines on the lan to query this one before using the isp provided servers?
[04:03] <elky> gftp is nice, whiter and in repos
[04:04] <whiter> gftp wont work
[04:04] <Madpilot> elky: it's already crashed on him too...
[04:04] <whiter> when i try to transfer it closes
[04:04] <elky> o.O
[04:04] <corvax> ug songbird has no binary for linux
[04:04] <Nightshade> ncftp is where it'
[04:04] <elky> weirdness
[04:04] <Nightshade> it's at
[04:04] <linkd> whiter: does it give any errors?
[04:04] <Nightshade> :)
[04:04] <whiter> no
[04:04] <whiter> it just closes itself
[04:04] <Hysty> anyone know of a server that dapperflight3 is on that supports resume?
[04:04] <Madpilot> whiter: and Naut. does the same thing, crash on transfer?
[04:04] <Sionide> corvax, i *know* :| GRR
[04:04] <_jason> whiter: run it in a terminal
[04:04] <linkd> hm
[04:04] <whiter> naut says invalid password
[04:04] <whiter> terminal wont list
[04:04] <corvax> i dont feel like building from source
[04:04] <Sionide> corvax, i really can't be arsed to reboot JUST to try it out
[04:05] <Sionide> heh neither do i...
[04:05] <corvax> color me lazy
[04:05] <Sionide> but damn, it's gonna be *so* good when it's done..
[04:05] <Sionide> it just looks aaaaamazing
[04:05] <cafuego> Nightshade: Yes, just use the ISP servers as forwarders in bind, make all lan boxes use YOUR dns.
[04:05] <Xenguy> whiter: if you want a good command-line ftp client, try lftp
[04:05] <proxosi> what a good c++ compiler?
[04:05] <Aaron_Mason> proxosi: g++
[04:05] <cafuego> Nightshade: Just for the record, lftp is far nicer
[04:05] <proxosi> for windows and/or ubuntu
[04:06] <_jason> proxosi: g++
[04:06] <cafuego> proxosi: gcc
[04:06] <_jason> proxosi: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:06] <corvax> ill wait till its more stable before going through all the work
[04:06] <linkd> whiter: thats puzzling. are you saying the transfer connection closes, or the software?
[04:06] <cafuego> proxosi: it's in cygwin (free) for Windows, on MacOS X and on virtually ALL Linux distros
[04:06] <Nightshade> oh my, i haven't seen lftp in ages.  :)  hell, i rarely use ftp anymore except for package upgrades and stuff and that's all scripted
[04:07] <whiter> the software
[04:07] <linkd> hm.
[04:07] <Xenguy> Nightshade: me too (ssh all the way); lftp is the best of the cli lot IMHO tho
[04:07] <linkd> sounds like there is an error somewhere!
[04:07] <Steve_p> proxosi, if you are experimenting, there are three main Linux compilers.  g++, which you can easily apt-get.  Intel and Sun also have compilers available.
[04:07] <whiter> i want a gui client.
[04:07] <linkd> whiter: for just kicks, try "rm -rf ~/.gftp
[04:08] <linkd> whiter: thatll delete your gftp settings, then try again
[04:08] <proxosi> steve_p: ok... wat about for windows
[04:08] <whiter> k
[04:08] <linkd> whiter: if it still doesnt work, try removing gftp, and reinstalling it. if it still doesnt work after that im baffled.
[04:09] <whiter> ive dont that twice already
[04:09] <whiter> but ok
[04:09] <bluefoxicy> why does ubuntu now have a package called klineconfig?
[04:09] <linkd> Xenguy: whats ur idea. please share!
[04:09] <Steve_p> proxosi, Intel is available.  g++ is available through mingw.  g++ is also in Cygwin if you're interested in that route.
[04:09] <whiter> yep
[04:09] <whiter> closes
[04:09] <corvax> whiter try apt-get --purge remove gftp
[04:09] <CodyDH> What kernel patch does Ubuntu use to allow suspending to disk?
[04:09] <whiter> :|
[04:09] <whiter> i just want to download one file
[04:09] <whiter> wtf
[04:09] <Steve_p> proxosi, Borland and Open Watcom are also available
[04:09] <brenner> whiter: try running it from a terminal, it might spit out errors when it closes
[04:10] <Xenguy> linkd: I think it is some other problem besides a software issue, that's all
[04:10] <whiter> it dosent
[04:10] <whiter> it wont list
[04:10] <IdleOne> whiter what file?
[04:10] <whiter> and
[04:10] <linkd> whiter: could just use wget.. or just quickly use ftp - the CLI program.
[04:10] <cafuego> !info klineconfig
[04:10] <Emerson> ok, I have a really odd question and I just want a second opinion if this sounds like hardware or software:  Ubuntu 5.10 , system locks up randomly, 99% inside of Gnome when running mozilla-firefox + Evolution + Epiphany Browser.  no output to the logs to make me think its software related
[04:10] <whiter> OMG
[04:10] <whiter> enracer.serveftp.net
[04:10] <darthbutcher> !drivers
[04:10] <ubotu> hmm... drivers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//BinaryDriverHowto
[04:10] <whiter> whoops
[04:10] <eodchop> Hey it worked thanks for the help!
[04:10] <Xenguy> whiter: yeh, wget if you are just d/l'ing
[04:10] <whiter> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[04:10] <darthbutcher> !windowsdrivers
[04:10] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, darthbutcher
[04:10] <darthbutcher> !windows
[04:10] <ubotu> windows is, like, unnecessary - everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative
[04:10] <cafuego> bluefoxicy: does it?
[04:10] <darthbutcher> !alternative
[04:10] <ubotu> alternative is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[04:10] <brenner> darthbutcher: ease up.  /msg ubotu please
[04:10] <_jason> darthbutcher: what drivers are you seeking?
[04:11] <bluefoxicy> cafuego:  something about keyboards
[04:11] <whiter> it dosnet even recognize gftp as installed
[04:11] <brenner> you're flooding
[04:11] <darthbutcher> _jason: V-Stream Xpert DVD Maker
[04:11] <ilba7r> hi i want to use gs-afpl instead of gs how can i use that. is there is a howto on how to divert the usage of a corepackage like ghostview
[04:11] <eodchop> Can anyone help me with realplayer 10.0? I keep getting the following error message......ryan@ubuntu:~/Desktop$   sudo dpkg -i realplayer_10.0.6-0.0_i386.deb
[04:11] <eodchop> dpkg: error processing realplayer_10.0.6-0.0_i386.deb (--install):
[04:11] <eodchop>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[04:11] <eodchop> Errors were encountered while processing:
[04:11] <eodchop>  realplayer_10.0.6-0.0_i386.deb
[04:11] <_jason> darthbutcher: ok, carry on then... I don't think ubotu will know about it though
[04:11] <Xenguy> !tell eodchop about paste
[04:12] <_jason> eodchop: is the file on your desktop?
[04:12] <CodyDH> What kernel patch does Ubuntu use to allow suspending to disk?
[04:12] <eodchop> jason:i used apt get to attempt to install it.
[04:12] <_jason> ubotu: tell eodchop about realplayer
[04:12] <whiter> and wget isnt working
[04:12] <whiter> says bash
[04:13] <ilba7r> again anyone know about how to use update-alternatives
[04:13] <whiter> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[04:13] <ilba7r> !alternatives
[04:13] <ubotu> alternatives is probably should you require to change the default applications system wide, use "sudo update-alternatives --all" it provides choice where available to the machine. example: kde/gnome or nano/vi/emacs
[04:13] <_jason> eodchop: did you know that mplayer plays all of the realplayer files if you have w32codecs
[04:13] <IdleOne> eodchop:  cd Desktop then do dpkg
[04:13] <whiter> gftp isnt removing
[04:13] <whiter> ...
[04:13] <whiter> i do apt-get remove gftp
[04:13] <IdleOne> but _jason  is right
[04:13] <whiter> but its still here
[04:14] <eodchop> I did not know that, will it play embedded in a webrowswer?
[04:14] <IdleOne> whiter sudo
[04:14] <corvax> it as the libata_passthru patch ?
[04:14] <whiter> i used sudo
[04:14] <whiter> ...
[04:14] <_jason> !enter
[04:14] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[04:14] <whiter> it says it removes it but its still here
[04:14] <brenner> ilba7r: are gs-afpl and gs seperate executables?
[04:14] <Xenguy> whiter: re wget: what is the actual command-line you're trying?
[04:14] <whiter> lets go on with uninstlaling gftp
[04:15] <ilba7r> brenner i want ps2pdf to use the gs-afpl
[04:15] <eodchop> idle one: do i need to download it to the desktop?
[04:15] <whiter> cause it isnt uninstalling
[04:15] <IdleOne> eodchop:  if you used firefox thats where it is
[04:15] <darthbutcher> Anyone know how to get Windows drivers working in Linux?
[04:15] <ilba7r> brenner gs uses the gs-esp package
[04:15] <corvax> its not installed
[04:15] <ilba7r> causing some problems here
[04:15] <eodchop> oh ok...
[04:15] <IdleOne> eodchop:  so you need to cd Desktop
[04:15] <corvax> its still there in your sources
[04:15] <Ralith> well
[04:15] <corvax> though
[04:15] <whiter> ARGH
[04:16] <IdleOne> eodchop:  the dpkg
[04:16] <Ralith> the person who was helping me just dissapeared.
[04:16] <IdleOne> eodchop:  then dpkg
[04:16] <whiter> someone help me, gftp wont uninstall using apt-get
[04:16] <eodchop> Thank you very much for your help...Sorry about the multi-line paste.
[04:16] <ilba7r> brenner and gs is just a symbolic link to whichever gs engine you used the default is gs-eps
[04:16] <_jason> whiter: pastebin errors
[04:16] <IdleOne> Ralith:  they will probably be right back
[04:16] <whiter> theres no errors
[04:16] <whiter> it claims to have uninstalled it
[04:16] <whiter> but its still here
[04:17] <IdleOne> whiter locate gftp
[04:17] <_jason> whiter: where is here
[04:17] <Ralith> IdleOne: I would hope so. He didn't say anything :P
[04:17] <whiter> its on my computer
[04:17] <whiter> im running it
[04:17] <whiter> its in applications > Internet
[04:17] <IdleOne> you cant remove if program is running
[04:17] <whiter> omg
[04:17] <Xenguy> whiter: provide examples, and be specific (you are just making it hard to help you)
[04:17] <whiter> it wasnt running when i uninstalled it obviously
[04:17] <whiter> okay
[04:18] <_jason> whiter: install it and remove it again
[04:18] <whiter> heres my example: i UNINSTALLED GFTP using apt-get remove gftp
[04:18] <whiter> right?
[04:18] <IdleOne> ok
[04:18] <whiter> but it didnt uninstall, its still fine and well right here
[04:18] <whiter> and _jason, ive tried that like 3 times
[04:18] <marburg> help! i need to configure my network, but i can't get xorg to start :'(
[04:18] <marburg> can anyone point me to some config files?
[04:18] <_jason> whiter: and make sure you remove gftp-gtkgftp-text
[04:18] <IdleOne> whats was that --purge command ?
[04:18] <_jason> whiter: and make sure you remove gftp-gtk gftp-text
[04:19] <whiter> ok jason
[04:19] <whiter> that worked, thank you
[04:19] <whiter> im over here getting very frustrated :\
[04:19] <IdleOne> Confucious say if it aint broke and wont work FDISK
[04:20] <IdleOne> heh
[04:20] <Ralith> anyone here good with X?
[04:20] <IdleOne> !anyone
[04:20] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[04:20] <_jason> whiter: if you read the package description it will tell you: This is an upgrade convenience package, it's only useful for depending on. and apt-cache depends gftp can get you its dependencies
[04:20] <Ralith> because last time I did that the paragraph-long thing got ignored :P
[04:21] <Ralith> and when I proceeded to ask if anyone was good with X, I got someone helping.
[04:21] <Ralith> and made progress.
[04:21] <IdleOne> Ralith:  ok then :)
[04:21] <IdleOne> Ralith:  sorry Im not
[04:21] <whiter> blah
[04:21] <whiter> gftp still closes itself
[04:22] <cafuego> gftp is known to be crap.
[04:22] <whiter> is there any good gui ftp client for linux
[04:22] <dirtbiker> anyone know how to install tar.bz2 files?
[04:22] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, What do you recommend instead?
[04:22] <cafuego> (sorry if there's any autheors here, but there you go)
[04:22] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: ssh
[04:22] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: ;-)
[04:22] <_jason> dirtbiker: what are you trying to install?
[04:22] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, Ah!  Okay.
[04:22] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: I'd recommend using a cli ftp client, to be honest.
[04:23] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: Even the Places -> Connect to server -> FTP is nicer.
[04:23] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, Hm.  gftp has been fine for me so far, but we'll see.
[04:23] <whiter> cafuego i cant get that to work, it tells me im using the wrong password
[04:23] <corvax> kbear lol
[04:24] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: A lot of people complain about instability. that said, ebcuase of those people doing that, I've never even bothered trying it.
[04:24] <shortjollio> how can i get the music on myspace to run?i have flashplayer but it still wont
[04:24] <cafuego> whiter: What tells you that?
[04:24] <tonyyarusso> !flashesd
[04:24] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, tonyyarusso
[04:24] <whiter> naut
[04:24] <tonyyarusso> Eh?
[04:24] <stbrenner> hi, i'm trying to play a .mpg movie file in totem and all i get is sound...is there a codec i'm missing or what?
[04:24] <jordan> hey guys, I cant seem to get gmail to work with ubuntu, wondering if anything is wrong, all other sites seem to work, including www.google.com, are the gmail servers down?
[04:24] <tonyyarusso> !esdflash
[04:24] <ubotu> tonyyarusso: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:24] <beniamino> does a default ubuntu install require a network connection?
[04:24] <cafuego> beniamino: No.
[04:24] <_jason> jordan: what ahppens when you go to the site?
[04:24] <tonyyarusso> shortjollio, Thought I had something for you, guess not.
[04:25] <cafuego> beniamino: It will try to detect network, but works fine without.
[04:25] <marburg> jordan: gmail works fine on this machine
[04:25] <_jason> !flashesd
[04:25] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _jason
[04:25] <corvax> java
[04:25] <cafuego> !listkeys flash
[04:25] <ubotu> Factoid search of 'flash' by key (5 shown): flashfonts #DEL# ;; flashfont #DEL# ;; flashesd #DEL# ;; flashfonts ;; flash.
[04:25] <corvax> ya need java for gmail
[04:25] <jordan> well, I can log on, but it never reaches the actual inbox, I've waited an hour before, sometimes it works but other times it doesnt
[04:25] <beniamino> cafuego: so, if the network is there, it downloads a load of packages automatically?
[04:25] <cafuego> !undelete flashesd
[04:25] <ubotu> cafuego: Successfully recovered 'flashesd'.  Have fun now.
[04:25] <corvax> lmao
[04:25] <shortjollio> tonyyarusso, what do u mean?
[04:26] <cafuego> _jason: there ya go.
[04:26] <Syco54645> how can i make links to my sda and hde drive on my desktop?
[04:26] <_jason> cafuego: ah thankyou
[04:26] <_jason> who wanted it again?
[04:26] <Syco54645> i never can figure that out in gnome
[04:26] <whiter> _jason would you happen to know of a good gui ftp client
[04:26] <jordan> does java get installed in ubuntu on default?
[04:26] <shortjollio> tonyyarusso, oh i c. have u gotten it to work?
[04:26] <_jason> whiter: no, I just use ssh
[04:26] <xored> i just deleted a file, how can i reconstruct it ( its a small file )
[04:26] <whiter> ftp the terminal program dosent work cause this ftp sever dosent have pasv
[04:26] <stbrenner> hi, i'm trying to play a .mpg movie file in totem and all i get is sound...is there a codec i'm missing or what?
[04:26] <tonyyarusso> shortjollio, For your flash issue, if that was it.  And yes.
[04:26] <Syco54645> whiter: there is gftp, but it is really crappy
[04:26] <tonyyarusso> shortjollio, Sure it's flash?
[04:26] <cafuego> whiter: Are you connecting to anonftp via naut or an actual account? The latter requires you to tell it that.
[04:27] <whiter> an actual account
[04:27] <zcat[1] > try mplayer; I'm not sure totem uses all the available codecs. vlc doesn't
[04:27] <whiter> and i know that
[04:27] <tonyyarusso> _jason, was for shortjollio.
[04:27] <whiter> i choose the option that says requires login
[04:27] <stbrenner> how can i get mplayer?
[04:27] <_jason> ubotu: tell stbrenner about mplayer
[04:27] <_jason> ubotu: tell shortjollio about flashesd
[04:27] <cafuego> whiter: Yep. Server/User Name/name to use... is all it should need.
[04:27] <stbrenner> sudo apt-get mplayer?
[04:27] <Syco54645> stbrenner: use synaptic and install mplayer
[04:27] <whiter> well it doesnt work
[04:27] <zcat[1] > and w32codecs ..
[04:27] <cafuego> whiter: Any chance you can check the logs on the ftp server?
[04:28] <whiter> name to use, what is that?
[04:28] <tonyyarusso> !tell stbrenner about mplayer
[04:28] <Syco54645> stbrenner: also you may want to run it with the command gmplayer
[04:28] <stbrenner> i did the w32codecs
[04:28] <whiter> no, theres no chance i can
[04:28] <cafuego> whiter: name to use is the name the icon would get on the desktop
[04:29] <zcat[1] > I've been downloading lots of clips that just seem 'broken' - I get blocky shapes moving around but no real picture in mplayer, and nothing at all in vlc.
[04:30] <zcat[1] > I suspect they're 'protected media' or some crap
[04:30] <nbjayme> hello ubuntu people.
[04:30] <zcat[1] > the dangers of p2p pr0n :-)
[04:30] <BigDaddy> brenner - you still here?
[04:31] <nbjayme> do you know of a script that will transform  svg files to png files?
[04:31] <Aaron_Mason> how do you erase a cd-rw?
[04:31] <Aaron_Mason> in nautilus
[04:31] <Syco54645> can anyone please tell me where i can find the icons for the disk drives in gnome (the ones that you see when you go to computer under places)
[04:32] <_jason> Syco54645: is it a custom theme?
[04:32] <BigDaddy> I think I scared gedit into working. I stared looking for leafpad after closing everything except this window and swearing I was going to do something drastic (like download KDE). All of a sudden gedit opens. with root rights. wth?
[04:32] <Syco54645> _jason: no it is the default ubuntu theme, i just cant find it in the icons that come up
[04:32] <_jason> Syco54645: /usr/share/icon/something or ~/.icons
[04:32] <Syco54645> _jason: thanks
[04:33] <Aaron_Mason> got it...
[04:33] <_jason> Syco54645: should have been icons not icon and I think default is either Gnome or human
[04:33] <jordan> can anybody help me with my gmail problem?
[04:33] <Syco54645> _jason: would you happen to know how to get nautilus to default to letting me type the path rather than hitting ctrl-l?
[04:34] <_jason> Syco54645: not offhand, but I believe it is a perference in system tools > config editor: /apps/nautilus
[04:34] <brenner> anyone running ff1.5?
[04:35] <_jason> Syco54645: yep,
[04:35] <zcat[1] > where's a repo for 1.5?
[04:35] <_jason> Syco54645: erm.. /apps/nautilus/preferences/always_use_location_entry
[04:35] <zcat[1] > I found a repo for OOo2.0 at last
[04:35] <nbjayme> i am running ff1.5 in ubuntu breezy.
[04:35] <_jason> zcat[1] : it hasn't and won't be packaged
[04:35] <brenner> zcat[1] : there isn't any afaik: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:35] <ITSa341> brenner  I ran it for a while but some of the extensions I like wouldn't work so I'm back to 1.0.7
[04:36] <zcat[1] > umm OOo wasn't officially packaged either.. 3rd party repo. There must be one for FF1.5 somewhere
[04:36] <brenner> yeah, i heard it was kind of patchy.  i'm wondering whether i should try it or not
[04:36] <Syco54645> _jason: thanks so much... you would think that it would be easier to find, like in the settings pane for nautilus, not in the config editor
[04:36] <brenner> ITSa341: what extesions specifically?
[04:36] <zcat[1] > guess I'll just wait for dapper
[04:36] <_jason> Syco54645: yeah, the gnome way I guess
[04:37] <Syco54645> _jason: well this used to be default, kinda silly that they changed it imho
[04:37] <brenner> nbjayme: any problems with it?
[04:37] <ITSa341> brenner Some of the people in our office still use it and they are steadily getting updates for the extensions. When an update becomes available and installed, the extension is automatically re-enabled
[04:37] <nbjayme> brenner:none so far, it's fast. but those in forums say other extensions are broken.
[04:37] <_jason> Syco54645: I've gotten used to, I have my hand on the mouse when I use nautilus anyway.  But I do press ctrl+l a lot too :P
[04:38] <ITSa341> Brenner  I don't remember which ones but like I said, they are steadily becoming patched for 1.5 so I might try it again soon
[04:38] <Syco54645> _jason: i mostly use the shell, so the mouse isnt even really there... at least not in my mind
[04:38] <KoruptidPryde> is MrProject in the repos?
[04:38] <brenner> ITSa341, nbjayme:  right. thanks.
[04:38] <tonyyarusso> KoruptidPryde, Yes.
[04:38] <nbjayme> brenner: simply download and extract to your folder. remember to backup your .mozilla folder
[04:39] <KoruptidPryde> tonyyarusso, which one... I couldn't find it
[04:40] <ITSa341> brenner When I installed it the first time I tried automatix ( which hosed my system ) the second time I installed it right from getfirefox.com
[04:40] <tonyyarusso> KoruptidPryde, Universe.
[04:41] <KoruptidPryde> tonyyarusso, it isn't in the dapper repos
[04:42] <tonyyarusso> KoruptidPryde, Well that might be different.
[04:42] <LiteHedded> no traceroute on ubuntu?
[04:42] <tonyyarusso> LiteHedded, Not by default, but it's there.
[04:42] <LiteHedded> how do i gets it?
[04:43] <tonyyarusso> LiteHedded, sudo apt-get install traceroute
[04:43] <purplefeltangel> firefox keeps wanting to save PHTML files instead of loading them
[04:43] <purplefeltangel> does anyone know how to fix that?
[04:43] <LiteHedded> oh ok :D
[04:43] <ssstormy> I'm installing (compiling) a base linux system
[04:43] <ssstormy>  on my xbox, but
[04:43] <ssstormy> but at some point the xbox'es clock got reset
[04:43] <ssstormy> * ChanServ sets channel limit to 39
[04:43] <ssstormy>  so some files have messy dates, and the check for system sanity fails because the output files are older than the dist files
[04:43] <tonyyarusso> KoruptidPryde, You're right, it hasn't gotten into Dapper yet.  If you're going to use Dapper I guess you'll have to wait for it.
[04:43] <dirtbiker> _jason: I'm installing EasyUbuntu and Blitz Max.
[04:43] <ssstormy> are there any tools for changing the dates on files?
[04:43] <Mordof> question: can i set a folder inside my home directory for apache to use and not have any problems with permissions? or would i be better off to have it somewhere in an area where both users can use easily
[04:44] <codo> can someone tell me how to download the source code
[04:44] <ITSa341> ssstormy  which distro   xebian??
[04:44] <codo> I want to see this /usr/src/linux/Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt
[04:44] <Syco54645> how can i make a link on my desktop to a different drive that i have, like hde1
[04:44] <codo> what to apt-get for the source ?
[04:44] <ITSa341> ssstormy or Gentoox?
[04:45] <tonyyarusso> codo, linux-source-$(uname -r)
[04:45] <tonyyarusso> codo, Wait, no.
[04:45] <amphi> ssstormy: touch
[04:45] <nbjayme> hello folks. i need to convert a bunch of svg files to png. can somebody point me to a command line? i am under ubuntu breezy.
[04:45] <tonyyarusso> codo, Source is architecture-independent, so just the part of that that's the version number.
[04:45] <dirtbiker> anyone know how to install tar.bz2 files?
[04:45] <ssstormy> ITSa341, Gentoo for Xbox
[04:45] <ssstormy> amphi, so I just say touch * -R?
[04:45] <codo> tonyyarusso hmm
[04:45] <tonyyarusso> dirtbiker, What are you trying to install?
[04:45] <amphi> dirtbiker: tar jxvf whatever.tar.bz2
[04:45] <tonyyarusso> codo, Did you follow that?
[04:46] <ITSa341> ssstormy    I mod xboxes
[04:46] <codo> no
[04:46] <amphi> ssstormy: man touch ;)
[04:46] <nbjayme> dirtbiker:nautilus right click.
[04:46] <ITSa341> Gentoox is nice
[04:46] <nbjayme> dirtbiker:nautilus extract here.
[04:46] <ssstormy> ITSa341, coincidentally I'm dling an iso for xubuntu :) I'm hoping it's good too
[04:46] <tonyyarusso> codo, Okay.  Type 'uname -r' in a terminal and tell me the output.
[04:46] <ssstormy> I love the xbox modding stuff
[04:46] <ITSa341> ssstormy xubuntu   as in for xbox??
[04:46] <ssstormy> amphi, thanks.  I'm good friends with "man xxxx" :)
[04:46] <ssstormy> ITSa341, yeah I was pretty psyched
[04:47] <ssstormy> it's on the xbox-linux page
[04:47] <zcat[1] > x as in xfce
[04:47] <dirtbiker> tonyyarusso: I'm installing EasyUbuntu and Blitz Max and some games
[04:47] <ITSa341> ssstormy  try Win on xbox yet?
[04:47] <ssstormy> ITSa341, Win?  what, they have win2000 on it?
[04:47] <ssstormy> zcat[1] , I wouldn't wanna be running gnome on an xbox... not usually
[04:47] <ITSa341> ssstormy  WinCE 5
[04:47] <tonyyarusso> dirtbiker, Okay.  Just checking that they weren't things in the repos.
[04:47] <zcat[1] > ummmm.. is there an xbox distro called xubuntu?
[04:47] <ssstormy> ITSa341, is that a hacker dash?
[04:48] <ssstormy> zcat[1] , I might have the caps wrong, but yea
[04:48] <zcat[1] > 'cos the xfce one is called xubuntu..
[04:48] <zcat[1] > bugger..
[04:48] <ITSa341> ssstormy   Windows CE   ( Windows embedded ) and we're working on WinXPE right now
[04:48] <ssstormy> zcat[1] , I read something about how it was diff from the xfce version
[04:48] <zcat[1] > that's gonna cause confusion..
[04:48] <ssstormy> you mean like emulated?
[04:48] <ssstormy> zcat[1] , yeah especially for those of us like me who can't keep caps straight :)
[04:49] <tonyyarusso> dirtbiker, You probably want to see !compile and !checkinstall.
[04:49] <zcat[1] > xUbUntU
[04:49] <ITSa341> ssstormy   WinCE is a small Windows for like palms and others like phones etc
[04:49] <ssstormy> ITSa341, and it runs on xbox?
[04:50] <dirtbiker> Ubotu tell dirtbiker about compile
[04:50] <dtk> hi, can any body tell me how can I change the layout of my keboard?
[04:50] <ITSa341> ssstormy  WinCE works now and we're working on WinXPE trying to get it ready for this summer
[04:50] <ssstormy> ITSa341, wow... that's impressive
[04:50] <tonyyarusso> dtk, System > Preferences > Keyboard
[04:50] <ITSa341> ssstormy  WinCE can be found in the usual xbox places in a ready to run version for xbox.
[04:50] <dtk> well yes... but ive already done that
[04:51] <dtk> and it didnt actually changed
[04:51] <ITSa341> ssstormy   what dashboard you use?
[04:51] <tonyyarusso> dtk, Okay, how 'bout dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[04:51] <ssstormy> ITSa341, Ava and XBMC
[04:51] <ssstormy> ITSa341, except I'm heavily linux on that xbox now
[04:51] <dirtbiker> !compile
[04:51] <dtk> ill try that
[04:51] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[04:51] <dtk> thank you
[04:51] <Ralith> I get this error when trying to start X: "Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed'"
[04:51] <ITSa341> ssstormy  XBMC for me since I have 3 300gb drives, I run movies off my windows network and I use kai a lot
[04:51] <ssstormy> ITSa341, I'm making it into a diskless box for running frontends and remote login into my PC
[04:52] <nny> so i if i am compiling, and It can't locate a lib i have installed, what do i do?
[04:52] <Ralith> What do I need to do to fix?
[04:52] <dirtbiker> how do i get info from IRC?
[04:52] <ITSa341> ssstormy  cool
[04:52] <zcat[1] > take your font to a vet?
[04:52] <Mordof> Ralith, how do you talk on irc without X?
[04:52] <CompBrain> Mordof: irssi
[04:52] <nny> Mordof: BitchX
[04:52] <CompBrain> or bitchx
[04:52] <Mordof> ohhh
[04:52] <tonyyarusso> Mordof, irssi's amazing.
[04:52] <Mordof> cool :)
[04:52] <purplefeltangel> firefox keeps wanting to save PHTML files instead of loading them. does anyone know how to fix that?
[04:52] <Ralith> Mordof: irssi.
[04:52] <ITSa341> ssstormy  I heard from one of our suppliers they are expecting the first set of 360 chips in April or possibly even march shipments
[04:52] <Mordof> so i should get one of those just incase i end up not being able to get into X
[04:52] <Ralith> I think it's a good idea.
[04:53] <Ralith> because X is one of the nastiest things to config correctly
[04:53] <Mordof> :)
[04:53] <tonyyarusso> Mordof, Yeah.  I got command line IRC and IM programs just in case.
[04:53] <hatake_kakashi> Ralith: or you mean ntpd ? :)
[04:53] <hatake_kakashi> s/mean/meant
[04:53] <tonyyarusso> Mordof, And then found that I ended up using irssi a lot when X was working.
[04:53] <ssstormy> amphi, dude, all I ever used touch for was to make empty files.  I had no idea it was actually for timestamps!
[04:53] <Ralith> hatake_kakashi: what?
[04:53] <Ralith> hatake_kakashi: I've found ntpd easy to configure :P
[04:53] <Ralith> if a bit unintuitive.
[04:53] <Mordof> tonyyarusso, heh, so irssi is alot better than x-chat?
[04:53] <jordan> so, I just tried to access gmail on elinks (cli web browser) and it worked really fast and easy, I think that there must be a problem with firefoxe, should I try to reinstall it or something else?
[04:53] <Ralith> X, on the other hand, is being a big problem.
[04:54] <Ralith> I can't get it to even /start/ :P
[04:54] <bimberi> Mordof: you probably already have one, try "irc" in a terminal (usually runs irssi)
[04:54] <hatake_kakashi> Ralith: the last I recall, getting ntpd to work well was a royal pain in terms of documentation standards
[04:54] <tonyyarusso> Mordof, Depends what you want to do with it.  It fit for me.  I'm actually in XChat for the moment, but have been using irssi more.  Aren't options great?
[04:54] <Ralith> the default config set up by the install didn't work
[04:54] <Ralith> so I grabbed someone else's made for this laptop
[04:54] <Ralith> it doesn't work, either
[04:54] <lobo> oi
[04:55] <Ralith> well, it does work
[04:55] <Ralith> but not when GDM uses it
[04:55] <alec_guiness> hi!  am in a good channel for asking newb questions or should i be somewhere else?
[04:55] <Ralith> I can start it by itself by running "X"
[04:55] <Ralith> brenner!
[04:55] <tonyyarusso> alec_guiness, Perfect.
[04:55] <bimberi> alec_guiness: this is the place :)
[04:55] <lobo> como eu instalo o AMsn!
[04:55] <La_PaRCa> !br
[04:55] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[04:56] <Eleaf> lhm
[04:56] <alec_guiness> great.  i wanted to wait and have some specific questions before i hit irc and bugged the support p33ps
[04:56] <jordan> hi, can anybody help me with my gmail problems, firefox wont get pass the login in screen but links, a text mode browser, it works perfectly
[04:56] <brenner> i'm using the k7 kernel.  how would i go about removing the old 386 one.  do i just remove all 386 related packages and update grub?
[04:56] <Mordof|Testing> hey cool :) irc from the terminal
[04:56] <purplefeltangel> firefox keeps wanting to save PHTML files instead of loading them. does anyone know how to fix that?
[04:56] <amphi> jordan: perhaps you need to enable javascript?
[04:57] <jordan> I think that I did, can you tell me how please?
[04:57] <Mordof|Testing> bleh, copying files from dvd, while installing updates is making my system laggy :S
[04:57] <alec_guiness> how exactly do i restrict a person to ssh (or more importantly sftp) access and keep them in their home directory with read only access to certain folders?
[04:57] <trumeptboy8282> purple, gmail seems to dislike some fx extensions (i had the same problem until i disabled Gmail Manager)
[04:57] <MrProper_> i installed jabberd2 then removed and installed jabber (when i install jabber it complains about a missing config file)
[04:58] <TiG4> What is some good software if I have an AVI file that I want to burn to a DVD so I can use it in my DVD Playerthat will also allow DVD Menu Creation?
[04:58] <jordan> I dont think I have any extensions, I can check
[04:59] <purplefeltangel> trumeptboy8282: i'm not having problems with Gmail . . . it's Neopets ;P
[04:59] <trumeptboy8282> sorry
[04:59] <purplefeltangel> thats okay . . . do you know how to get it to stop trying to save PHTML files? :S
[04:59] <TiG4> What is some good software if I have an AVI file that I want to burn to a DVD so I can use it in my DVD Playerthat will also allow DVD Menu Creation?
[04:59] <jordan> i'm having problems with gmail!
[05:00] <jordan> TiG4-i think that xine will play avi, but I'm not really sure
[05:00] <Mordof> jordan, what problems?
[05:00] <TiG4> No i dont want to play AVI, I want to burn AVI to DVD
[05:00] <_jason> jordan: close all isntances of firefox, run firefox in a terminal with 'firefox -safe-mode' and see if gmail works
[05:00] <ITSa341> what backup solution would be easiest to use for disaster recovery in Ubuntu? I mean easiest when it is time for recovery not necessarily easiest to set up or use.
[05:00] <jordan> jason-thanks, I'll try that
[05:01] <Aaron_Mason> How can I write a .bin/.cue image under ubuntu?
[05:02] <ITSa341> I'm looking for something that a user could easily recover from a major league screwed up system with little or no help from a tech or help line. Something similar to ghost.
[05:02] <jordan> jason-on my maching firefox -safe-mode isnt there, and when I typed in firefox -h it didnt have anything about a safe mode
[05:02] <_jason> jordan: really, what version?
[05:02] <tonyyarusso> ITSa341, Do they have another drive/partition/network server?
[05:03] <jordan> jason-the one that comes standard with 5.10
[05:03] <tonyyarusso> jordan, --safe-mode, with two hyphens at the beginning.
[05:03] <ITSa341> tonyarusso  I could supply either a second drive or network storage area.
[05:03] <jordan> thoyyarusso-thanks, I'll try that
[05:03] <tonyyarusso> ITSa341, I backup up mine with rsync.  dd works too.  Don't know what's best.
[05:03] <Mordof> jordan, in irc you can type the first couple letters of a persons name and hit tab (afaik)
[05:04] <Mordof> you seem to be getting names wrong.. just thought id point that out
[05:04] <jordan> Mordof, thanks
[05:04] <_jason> jordan: I'm pretty sure it
[05:04] <_jason> i hate '
[05:04] <Mordof> in most clients, when you say a persons name it highlights it for them, making it easier for them to help you
[05:04] <jordan> Mordof, first time ever
[05:04] <Mordof> jordan, in that case, welcome to the wonderful world of irc :)
[05:04] <zcat[1] > ITSa341: I used 'tar' to back up the home directory of the oneandonly user on my kids machine back when they were smaller. Pressing alt-uparrow automatically restored it.
[05:04] <jordan> _jason, it booted into safe mode, I'm logging in right now
[05:04] <_jason> jordan: I'm pretty sure it's been -safe-mode for a while, what does it say when you try?  invalid option?
[05:04] <jordan> Mordof, thanks
[05:05] <zcat[1] > not a bad kiosk setup really
[05:05] <jordan> _jason, I did --safe-mode and it worked
[05:05] <ITSa341> tonyyarusso  Would it take forever to backup a large partition with rsync?
[05:05] <jordan> _jason, I'm trying to log into gmail right now
[05:06] <amphi> ITSa341: finite time ;)
[05:06] <ITSa341> zcat  I really need to find something that does complete recovery from a non bootable system or at best a live cd. Can you tar a complete partition?
[05:06] <jordan> my problem wouldnt have anything to do with being on dial-up, would it?
[05:06] <zcat[1] > yes.
[05:07] <Mordof> jordan, what is your problem exactly?
[05:07] <_jason> jordan: probably not, I have used it fine with dial-up
[05:07] <Mordof> jordan, gmail works perfect on dialup, just loads slower..
[05:07] <zcat[1] > well, you can hack a script for a live CD that recreates the filesystem, untars over the network, and restores the MBR.
[05:08] <jordan> Mordof, it used to work, like last week, just this weekend and today it wont, but it did in links, a text mode browser, just not in firefox, should I reinstall firefox?
[05:08] <ITSa341> hmm, just answered my own question I think.  Could I boot a live cd, backup the partitions to a second disk and then if they have trouble they just switch boot disks in bios? Can ya think of an easier way for people who know how to point and click and not much more? I am very open to ideas here!! :-)
[05:08] <Mordof> jordan, worth a shot
[05:08] <alec_guiness> im assuming you guys are pretty busy usually.  im still here just doing homework.
[05:08] <jordan> Mordof, ok, I'll try
[05:08] <amphi> ITSa341: the sysresccd.org iso is very useful for such tasks - no X, just zsh and many handy tools
[05:09] <Mordof> jordan, if it works for everything but firefox, it would seem to be that firefox isnt working properly.. but i dunno it could be something else. ruling out possibilites is the only way to solving a problem though ;)
[05:09] <tonyyarusso> ITSa341, Depends how large.
[05:09] <_jason> jordan: does google's html mode work?
[05:09] <jordan> Mordof, yeah, I will reinstall with synaptic now
[05:09] <ITSa341> amphi   this needs to be usable by secretaries and reservationists who know nothing of linux or commands of any type.
[05:10] <Mordof> _jason, hmm, forgot about that mode :P heh, sorry
[05:10] <jordan> _jason,  I dont know how to access that without getting onto the inbox
[05:10] <tonyyarusso> ITSa341, I did maybe 30G in maybe 45 minutes?  Not exactly sure of that number.
[05:10] <zcat[1] > just make them a live CD to use, they can't screw it up in the first place.
[05:10] <amphi> ITSa341: I meant for you
[05:10] <_jason> jordan: the link for me is: http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=html&zy=f
[05:11] <soberon> join /#ubuntu-es
[05:11] <ITSa341> tonyyarusso   that I could live with. This is for an office 2 1/2 hours from here. and they need to be able to get back up and running with no help or very little.
[05:11] <_jason> soberon: /join #ubuntu-es
[05:11] <soberon> thanks
[05:11] <zcat[1] > I think secretaries whouldn't need root, so there's little they can screw up and backing up home directories should be enough.. plus a magic key to restore everything
[05:11] <tonyyarusso> ITSa341, Ah.
[05:11] <amphi> ITSa341: if the two disks are identical, you could just dd one to the other
[05:12] <ITSa341> ahhh my win4lin windowsXP installation says 4 minutes to completion!!!
[05:12] <zcat[1] > BAH to dd mirrors. Use tar or cp -a and just dd the boot record..
[05:12] <jordan> _jason, I'm trying that link right now
[05:12] <ITSa341> amphi   sounds good   time to read about dd   ( I'm very much a newbie to linux desktops)
[05:12] <jordan> _jason, its doing the same thing as the other link
[05:13] <amphi> zcat[1] : you have to make the partitions too then, but yeah, dd is wasteful
[05:13] <zcat[1] > :-) dd if=/dev/hdb of=/dev/hda :-)
[05:13] <reqage> finally got around to installing ubuntu, what video player do you all recommend?
[05:13] <jordan> _jason, it worked it worked!
[05:14] <zcat[1] > It'd work, but you'd spend a while copying all the blank space on the drive too..
[05:14] <jordan> reqage,  xine is pretty good
[05:14] <amphi> ITSa341: good to have a big value for bs=
[05:14] <reqage> I'll check it out, thx
[05:14] <ITSa341> uh oh, temp is climbing on this laptop. I'm thinking win4lin might just load it up more than vmware did. This is an emachines m5305  they are known for overheating.
[05:14] <phiber_optic> which is better win4lin or vmware?
[05:14] <amphi> ITSa341: 'undervolt' the processor ;)
[05:15] <_jason> jordan: now only if you could figure out why standard doesn't work... seems like it's javascript related.  But since it didn't work in safe mode it means it probably isn't a setting or extension issue
[05:15] <ITSa341> amphi   wish I could, these m5305's don't get much time on batteries anyway.
[05:15] <zcat[1] > I dropped my media machine from 1.7 to 1.45v -- it was a bit unstable.. It's been running 1.55v all week though and it's great. Quite a bit cooler
[05:15] <ITSa341> phiber_optic   I'm comparing win4lin to vmware now.  Ask me in a couple weeks. :-)
[05:16] <ssstormy> phiber_optic, I'm using crossover office
[05:16] <ITSa341> ssstormy  I use crossover office also
[05:16] <zcat[1] > ..afk
[05:16] <lazyM0m3nt> Could you help me plz?
[05:16] <phiber_optic> are anya of these software free?
[05:16] <jordan> _jason, I dont know, it didnt have the link to go to normal mode on the top like it usually does when you are in html, I just reinstalled firefox so I had to close it down but I am opening it back up now
[05:16] <amphi> zcat[1] : made a big difference to my stinkpad - 70+C to ~ 50C under heavy load
[05:16] <ssstormy> lazyM0m3nt, specify the problem first, or no one can help
[05:16] <ssstormy> amphi, lol.  I'm oc'ing right now
[05:17] <ITSa341> phiber_optic   Wine is free and I think you can still get an open source version of crossover office
[05:17] <soberon> Excuse me... somebody can tell me what's the name of an applicaon for managing the Grub? I had he chance to see some with an icon of a red switch
[05:17] <lazyM0m3nt> why when my XMMS play music that oi cant hear sound from any program
[05:17] <_jason> jordan: maybe it's the chat feature, that happens to coincide with the timing
[05:17] <ssstormy> wish I could overclcok my xbox too, cause compiling kernels is something that I want speed for
[05:17] <ssstormy> lazyM0m3nt, try saying that again- I'm confused...
[05:17] <amphi> soberon: grub config is normally 'managed' with a text editor
[05:17] <tonyyarusso> !tell lazyM0m3nt about esd
[05:17] <jordan> _jason,  it works really fast now, I dont know what gives, maybe it happened when I reinstalled java and didnt restart firefox
[05:18] <_jason> jordan: oh, maybe
[05:18] <lazyM0m3nt> ESD ?
[05:18] <lazyM0m3nt> WHAT ?
[05:18] <ITSa341> phiber_optic    company bought me crossover office, vmware and win4lin to evaluate and compare them from a beginners point of view ( can a beginner install, setup and use it easily and dependable )  I'm trying them all
[05:18] <tonyyarusso> lazyM0m3nt, read the stuff from ubotu and the page linked to and it should start to make more sense.
[05:18] <_jason> lazyM0m3nt: go to preferences in xmms and choose ESD as the output
[05:18] <jordan> _jason, I've been using ubuntu full time for 3 months now, it was difficult to get dial-up to work for me
[05:18] <amphi> ITSa341: and the conclusion is ? ;)
[05:19] <redwolf> hey, need help getting a soundcard working
[05:19] <phiber_optic> ITSa341, I guess Ill wait for your conlcusion
[05:19] <lazyM0m3nt> NO ESD
[05:19] <ITSa341> amphi   just finishing up the win4lin setup now
[05:19] <tonyyarusso> jordan, Yeah, dialup was the interesting point for me just getting started too.
[05:19] <_jason> jordan: yeah, when I'm home I have to use windows.  My modem driver costs like 15 bucks a year which I am not going to pay
[05:19] <Mordof> jordan, i know what you mean... i stopped using linux while i was on dialup
[05:19] <ITSa341> says 2 minutes now.
[05:19] <lazyM0m3nt> It has ALSA , eSound and OSS
[05:19] <tonyyarusso> _jason, a year?  Which driver?
[05:19] <_jason> lazyM0m3nt: choose alsa
[05:19] <Mordof> _jason, you have to pay money per year for modem DRIVERS???
[05:20] <ITSa341> brb
[05:20] <jordan> I found an old real modem in my basement from my windows 3.1 days and used it perfectly with linux, you guys should try it with one of those babies, worked like a charm
[05:20] <Protocol1> _jason: get broadband
[05:21] <lazyM0m3nt> Thanks a Lot!
[05:21] <frogzoo> jordan: older modems won't support the later faster protocols v52 etc
[05:21] <_jason> tonyyarusso, Mordof: conexant, and I was wrong it's 19.99
[05:21] <lazyM0m3nt> It's Work
[05:21] <amphi> _jason: the linuxant driver?
[05:21] <Mordof> _jason, ohhh, my tv tuner is conexant
[05:21] <_jason> Protocol1: heh I have broadband, I just use dialup when I go home for vacations and such, although dsl is getting cheap
[05:22] <tonyyarusso> _jason, You don't have to pay each year though, only if it stops working after a kernel upgrade.
[05:22] <Mordof> _jason, speaking of which, i need to get my tv tuner working in ubuntu
[05:22] <_jason> tonyyarusso: ah, right that was it
[05:22] <tonyyarusso> _jason, (Same driver)
[05:22] <Protocol1> i see
[05:22] <jordan> but then my isp (peoplepc) scrambles my password into a 27 digit password that I had to use dialguard 1.1 to find it out
[05:22] <Mordof> _jason, i just dropped windows ENTIRELY and i have no idea how im gonna do a bunch of stuff on linux :S im hoping i can get it all working decent
[05:22] <tonyyarusso> _jason, At which point you can always boot the older kernel while at the location which requires dialup.
[05:22] <jordan> I read an acticle on mythtv, it looks really cool for tvtuners
[05:23] <tonyyarusso> Mordof, Nice!  Cold turkey OS switching...
[05:23] <_jason> tonyyarusso: that's true.  Don't know if it's worth 20 bucks to me though
[05:23] <tonyyarusso> _jason, For me it was either that or have no internet over Christmas break.
[05:23] <Mordof> tonyyarusso, heh, yeah... well it wasnt QUITE cold turkey, i mean.. i installed dual boot for a couple days, but then decided i wanted to go all out linux
[05:23] <tonyyarusso> Mordof, Ah, okay.
[05:23] <Mordof> tonyyarusso, im still kinda new to linux, so ill probably be asking alot of questions soon :P
[05:23] <jordan> I went cold turkey too, but I still have M$ on my box for my dad to play hearts, havnt been able to find a hearts clone for linux
[05:24] <elky> mordof lol @ the switch. i'm jealous actually. i sorta need to keep that other os around for things cos im a web developer
[05:24] <nemik> so when i get new docs from the synaptic, how do i read them?
[05:25] <tonyyarusso> jordan, "Floater is a free program for duplicate bridge play on the Internet.  It also supports non-duplicate bridge and 3-player hearts."  <-- Might be a start
[05:25] <Mordof> elky, so am i, why do you need another OS for web development, what kinda stuff do you do
[05:25] <jordan> tonyyarusso, can you play it without internet?
[05:25] <elky> mordof uh, asp.net :)
[05:25] <tonyyarusso> jordan, Don't know.  Just got that from apt-cache.
[05:25] <lazyM0m3nt> Sorry, I'm newbie in IRC Chat.
[05:25] <ITSa341> win4lin machine is rebooting now
[05:26] <lazyM0m3nt> I can't use this well. How can i send PM to anyone in Channel
[05:26] <tonyyarusso> elky, Silly you.
[05:26] <Mordof> elky, er, apache has asp.net module support.. and linux has .net support, does it not?
[05:26] <jordan> tonyyarusso, kay, I'll try it
[05:26] <elky> mordof well, learned at school, cant just throw away money opportunities
[05:26] <Mordof> elky, you dont need another os to do asp.net
[05:26] <elky> mordof im better at php though
[05:26] <jordan> mono=.net
[05:26] <tonyyarusso> lazyM0m3nt, Generally, ask first, the /msg nick blah blah, and you both have to be registered.
[05:26] <Mordof> elky, i know both.. i use php more though
[05:26] <elky> mordof same. php = awesomeness
[05:27] <Mordof> elky, yeah :)
[05:27] <elky> mordof i feel so constricted in asp and asp.net is just a pain in the rear
[05:27] <Mordof> lol
[05:27] <nemik> so where are the docs for various bindings and such stored when i download them with apt-get?
[05:28] <Mordof> elky, hey man can i add you to msn? ive got a few cool projects id like to discuss, looking to get some help with them
[05:28] <jordan> nemik, maybe in /tmp?
[05:28] <knopf> hi. I have a gpg key, which will soon expire. I know how to extend it, but when I do so, will my public key change? The documentation explains, how to extend the time, but now what it affects. thanks.
[05:28] <elky> mordof firstly, female and australian, if that makes things difficult ;)
[05:29] <Mordof> elky, heh, nah doesnt bother me
[05:29] <nemik> jordan why there? shoudn't it be more permanent?
[05:29] <ITSa341> ok  so far win4lin seems very slow.
[05:29] <elky> mordof well, pm me if you can then so i know who to add.
[05:29] <Mordof> elky, its not for pay or anything if thats what your thinking, just thinking about projects for fun.. *shrugs*
[05:29] <makaveli> elky u blond?
[05:29] <jordan> nemik, I dont know, some things that I download from apt are in tmp, so it was just a shot in the dark
[05:29] <elky> makaveli o.O
[05:30] <nemik> jordan, cool; i'll look there. thanks!
[05:31] <dbernar1_> nemik: are you asking where apt downloads packages?
[05:31] <knopf> shit. it differs.
[05:32] <ITSa341> sure takes a lot longer to set up win4lin and setup a guest os in it.
[05:33] <jordan> ITSa341, lol, why are you doing that?
[05:33] <nemik> dbernar1_: not really, for example; i got py-gtk docs, where can i read them though? where are they?
[05:33] <ITSa341> jordan   there are a few windows apps we cannot be without here.
[05:33] <dbernar1_> nemik: sudo dpkg -L py-pgtk-doc, or whatever the package name is.
[05:34] <jordan> ITSa341, like what?
[05:34] <jerrod> yo
[05:34] <nemik> ok, i'll try that. thank you
[05:34] <ITSa341> a very modified version of FlexRent for property management for starters as well as Guestall
[05:34] <dbernar1_> nemik: lists all files that came with the package, and where they are
[05:35] <jerrod> im having some issues extracting data from a .iso disk (windows xp pro). any suggestions?
[05:35] <jerrod> ??^^
[05:35] <jordan> ITSa341, have you tried running it with wine?
[05:35] <ITSa341> jordan   MS streets and trips also unless you can point me to a comparable program with usb gps support
[05:36] <ITSa341> jordan  winde, crossover office etc
[05:36] <dbernar1_> jerrod: what troubles?
[05:36] <TiG4> Whats a good program to create DVD Menus?
[05:36] <jordan> ITSa341, I will search for one of those, but that would also be nice for me and I havent heard of one:)
[05:36] <ITSa341> wine**
[05:36] <jerrod> its stopped at the extracting progress bar bouncing back and forth
[05:37] <jordan> it doesnt work in wine or crossover?
[05:37] <dbernar1_> jerrod: have you tried mounting the ISO?
[05:37] <jerrod> greek >> english  (lol)
[05:37] <ITSa341> jordan I tried "gps drive" but it loads to the splash screen and stops there. on top in the way.
[05:38] <jordan> ITSa341, well, thats not fun. heh
[05:38] <samantha> asl?
[05:38] <elkbuntu> wrong place for that, dear
[05:38] <Ralith> Simple question for y'all: how do I add an initscript to the default runlevel?
[05:38] <jerrod> dbernar1_: shouldnt it automount?
[05:39] <jordan> 19/m/usa(mi0
[05:39] <ITSa341> jordan if it was up to me we'd just switch systems completely except for the laptops which need gps mapping software.
[05:39] <dbernar1_> jerrod: an iso?
[05:39] <jordan> ITSa341, yeah, linux is pretty much god of pc
[05:39] <dr_willis> Ralith,  ya may want to read up on the 'sysv' init system.  I forget what the default runlevel even is..
[05:39] <jerrod> dbernar1_: im new to ubuntu so, how would i go about doing that?
[05:39] <dbernar1_> Ralith: maybe add it to the /etc/init.d directory, not sure
[05:40] <cristina> hello
[05:40] <dr_willis> Hmm. i havent noticed ubuntu having a rc.local or whatever type 'service' that gets ran at the different runlevels
[05:40] <ITSa341> jordan  my smoothwall linux machine was last rebooted almost 5 yrs ago
[05:40] <dbernar1_> jerrod: "man mount" in a terminal
[05:40] <tonyyarusso> crimsun, Welcome.
[05:40] <jerrod> thanx
[05:40] <cristina> asl?
[05:40] <dr_willis> init.d holds the scriopts that are linked to the specific run level dirs.
[05:40] <jordan> ITSa341, lol, awesome
[05:40] <tonyyarusso> Heh.  Bad tab complete.
[05:40] <dbernar1_> cristina: wrong channel.
[05:40] <brenner> heh
[05:40] <tonyyarusso> cristina, Welcome.
[05:40] <tanubis> man iwlist
[05:40] <tanubis> .......
[05:40] <tanubis> oops.
[05:40] <cristina> its my first time to use ubuntu
[05:41] <ITSa341> jordan   and it's never been hacked to my knowledge
[05:41] <cristina> asl
[05:41] <jordan> cristina, good, hope you love it, 19/m/usa
[05:41] <cristina> hi
[05:41] <brenner> cristina: #ubuntu-offtopic if you just want to socialise
[05:41] <cristina> jordan how are you
[05:41] <foampeace> anyone try the northland demo? http://www.rune-soft.com/englisch/Projektseiten/northland/northland.html
[05:41] <dbernar1_> cristina: we do not chat much here, per se. we fix each other's computer problems. this is a support channel. try "/topic" for more details. you can use #ubuntu-offtopic for random conversations.
[05:41] <Ralith> dbernar1_: sorry, was somewhere else
[05:41] <cristina> im 20f  philippines
[05:42] <\DCCOLE> how do i update hoary to breezy
[05:42] <Ralith> dbernar1_: that's where initscripts are stored; will they run automatically?
[05:42] <jordan> ITSa341, hey, can you boot an OS from a server to a regular pc over ethernet?
[05:42] <\DCCOLE> and how do i get anjuta
[05:42] <dbernar1_> Ralith: when you boot, afaik yes. Again, I am not very knowledgeable about that, I never yet had to add something there.
[05:42] <ITSa341> jordan  it can be done but I'm not the one to ask for help with it   LOL
[05:42] <simosx> do ppl get that desperate for tech support?
[05:42] <dbernar1_> simosx: ?
[05:42] <Ralith> dbernar1_: well, it's a start.
[05:42] <_jason> ubotu: tell \DCCOLE about breezy
[05:43] <jordan> ITSa341, all right, thanks anyways
[05:43] <\DCCOLE> thanks Jason
[05:43] <thor> is there a keyboard shortcut for terminal?
[05:43] <dbernar1_> thor: in gnome?
[05:43] <tonyyarusso> thor, You can set one.
[05:43] <thor> yeah
[05:43] <dr_willis> thor,  check the preferances - you can make one
[05:43] <_jason> thor: you can set one up with system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts
[05:43] <dbernar1_> thor: system>prefs>kbd shortcuts
[05:43] <thor> ok lemme see
[05:43] <\DCCOLE> ubotu tell DCCOLE about Respitories
[05:43] <dbernar1_> no.
[05:43] <ITSa341> jordan  you'de be better off reading about it. I would have to.
[05:43] <_jason> ubotu: tell \DCCOLE about repositories
[05:44] <\DCCOLE> Thanks
[05:44] <\DCCOLE> i have trouble memorizing
[05:44] <jordan> ITSa341, kay, I've been asking the guys at work, I work at staples but they really dont know
[05:44] <_jason> ubotu: tell \DCCOLE about msg the bot
[05:44] <cristina> jordan hello
[05:44] <amphi> cristina: ok, I believe you about the philippines ;)
[05:44] <dbernar1_> amphi: is that a diss?
[05:44] <jordan> cristina, hi
[05:45] <amphi> dbernar1_: a what?
[05:45] <foampeace> whats morphos?
[05:45] <tanubis> people in the philippines can afford computers?  I thought that was a very poor country...
[05:45] <brenner> amphi: smart man
[05:45] <cristina> jordan?are you a filipino?
[05:45] <amphi> age/sex/location/uptime ;)
[05:45] <jordan> cristina, no
[05:45] <hatake_kakashi> I wonder if it is possible to first install Kubuntu Hoary CD and then install Ubuntu Hoary CD, so that I get both KDE/Gnome?
[05:46] <dbernar1_> tanubis: ph is/was a US colony
[05:46] <cristina> amphi 20f philippines
[05:46] <brenner> tanubis: poor people need porn too
[05:46] <dbernar1_> amphi: :)
[05:46] <tonyyarusso> hatake_kakashi, Sure.
[05:46] <jordan> hatake_kakashi, you can install kde on ubuntu and gnome on kubuntu
[05:46] <hatake_kakashi> jordan: tried that before, but it seems to have messed things up
[05:46] <tanubis> brenner: Then why chat here instead of something like #hackedpornpasswords? :P
[05:46] <hatake_kakashi> tonyyarusso: hmm
[05:46] <dbernar1_> hatake_kakashi: not in the same system. You would have 2 separate installations. You can look into the kubuntu-desktop, and ubuntu-desktop packages.
[05:46] <amphi> cristina: yeah, I saw above, thanks
[05:47] <cristina> your asl pls.amphi
[05:47] <Madpilot> tanubis: there are actually a bunch of Ubuntu contributors from .ph
[05:47] <tonyyarusso> hatake_kakashi, You'd probably want to just apt-get ubuntu-desktop from the disk before adding online sources, not try to do separate installs or something.
[05:47] <amphi> asl temporarily unavailable
[05:47] <jordan> hatake_kakashi, I dont think you can install both GDE and KDE on the same thing though, just try installing kde and Gnome
[05:48] <hatake_kakashi> tonyyarusso: ok will try that
[05:48] <danl> is there a program to do checksums on all the files in a folder, if any fail, replace it with a backup stored somewhere else?
[05:48] <hatake_kakashi> dbernar1_: ahh kinda thought so
[05:48] <hatake_kakashi> jordan: well I think tonyyarusso's idea might work
[05:48] <ITSa341> bbiab
[05:48] <tanubis> Madpilot: yea...  I guess I was just misinformed.  I have one friend from the ph, and he says that he makes more at wallmart here doing parttime than five average people over there do in a month.
[05:48] <dbernar1_> jordan: you can. ubuntu-desktop package installs everything desktop related that a Ubuntu install installs, and the kubuntu-desktop installs everything desktop related that the kubuntu install installs. Such redundancy in that sentence.
[05:49] <dr_willis> I always seem to install gnome-desktop and kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop :P with no hassles...
[05:49] <tonyyarusso> jordan, What do you mean by on the same thing?  I have Gnome, KDE, IceWM, Enlightenment, Afterstep, Fluxbox, XFCE all on the same installation/partition/disk.
[05:49] <dr_willis> are there any other -desktops? :P
[05:49] <amphi> heh
[05:49] <dbernar1_> tanubis: you should learn the basics of economies
[05:49] <hatake_kakashi> though it would be nice if there was one installation for both KDE and Gnome
[05:49] <dr_willis> fluxubuntu-desktop? :P
[05:49] <dr_willis> hatake_kakashi,  i think the installer should just ask. :P  and download the right one.
[05:49] <dr_willis> or both
[05:49] <dbernar1_> dr_willis: sudo aptitude search desktop
[05:50] <tonyyarusso> dr_willis, I don't think so...not yet anyway.
[05:50] <jordan> tonyyarusso, yeah, I've had it before also, I just heard not to have GDE and the k package equivilant on the same box before, maybe I'm wrong
[05:50] <jordan> tonyyarusso, I love xfce
[05:50] <hatake_kakashi> dr_willis: nah, I was thinking of installing it from the net, it should be compined on the disk
[05:50] <dr_willis> dbernar1,  right now :P installing/downloading 134 packages... in a few min perhaps. :P
[05:50] <amphi> jordan: no, they can coexist
[05:50] <hatake_kakashi> dr_willis: what if some user is on dialup connection but wants both gnome and kde?     The CD works as an apt source.
[05:52] <dbernar1_> tonyyarusso: very good.
[05:52] <tonyyarusso> hatake_kakashi, I have free high-speed wifi at my library, dunno about you.
[05:52] <Engla> My install hangs at "Mounting root file system .... ok" and then nothing more shows in usplash. After 5 mins it reboots and comes back to the same place. This is a recent dapper install
[05:52] <amphi> hatake_kakashi: or use a lightweight wm
[05:52] <Engla> What happens after "mounting root file system"?
[05:53] <amphi> hatake_kakashi: I used linux for years on dialup
[05:53] <dbernar1_> the leaves start growing
[05:53] <Engla> and is there any mode I can drop into to fix it?
[05:53] <hatake_kakashi> tonyyarusso: so if I install kubuntu, I change the disk to ubuntu (both Hoary), I can then simply mount the cd, change the sources.list to point to Ubuntu cd as well and then apt-get install gnome-desktop?
[05:53] <dbernar1_> ubuntu-desktop is the package name.
[05:54] <tonyyarusso> hatake_kakashi, ubuntu-desktop, but yes.
[05:54] <dbernar1_> hatake_kakashi: you could probably just edit one letter in that sources.list file, and get it done. it installs a CD repo on install.
[05:54] <IXKoDiaKXI> can anyone help me out for a minute
[05:54] <dbernar1_> hatake_kakashi: Remember to reload your package list after that.
[05:54] <tonyyarusso> !helpme
[05:54] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[05:55] <hatake_kakashi> amphi: same but I would much prefer to get it done a little quickly because I have many packages to get and I have to do updates too lol.. fortunately I hope that my previous downloads for kubuntu updates will work.. if it does, that may only mean I need to update my Ubuntu part to 5.10 as well
[05:55] <hatake_kakashi> dbernar1_: yeah, will do, thanks
[05:55] <hatake_kakashi> tonyyarusso: thanks
[05:56] <amphi> hatake_kakashi: uhuh - I fear there will be much to d/l
[05:56] <IXKoDiaKXI> haha alright well im just installed my wireless card wmp54gs using ndiswrapper.. when i boot up my computer with the /etc/network/interface file the way it is it will connect to my router but i cannot access the internet or even ping my router .. if i make any changes i lose the connection to my router and have to restart the computer .. anyone help?
[05:57] <dbernar1_> no rush...never underestimate the bandwidth of a station vagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway
[05:57] <amphi> dbernar1_: heh
[05:57] <dbernar1_> IXKoDiaKXI: are you booted in ubuntu now? is this the same computer?
[05:57] <hatake_kakashi> amphi: the thing is I have previously upgraded my Kubuntu from 5.04 to 5.10 whilst it was on a higher speed connection. Now the internet seems to be shaped at my end. I'm hoping that with the cache that I still have can be used on reinstalling Kubuntu 5.04 again
[05:58] <typing05> ubuntu rules
[05:58] <dbernar1_> hatake_kakashi: should be possible.
[05:58] <hatake_kakashi> err updating Kubuntu 5.04 again
[05:58] <IXKoDiaKXI> im using my laptop but my desktop is using ubuntu and its right beside me
[05:58] <jordan> well, thanks for the help and stuff, time for bed
[05:58] <IXKoDiaKXI> ive been working on this for days now
[05:58] <reqage> is root login different in ubuntu compared to other distros?
[05:58] <dbernar1_> IXKoDiaKXI: and you can not get online on the desktop, or you can?
[05:58] <typing05> ksljfga
[05:58] <dr_willis> !root
[05:58] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:58] <amphi> IXKoDiaKXI: what happens if you run dhclient on the wifi iface?
[05:58] <IXKoDiaKXI> no not on my desktop
[05:58] <typing05> mga putang ina nyo
[05:58] <reqage> thx
[05:58] <hatake_kakashi> dbernar1_: that's the problem that I will have to somewhat encounter..
[05:59] <hatake_kakashi> anyone done offline apt-get installations?
[06:00] <morphix> does ubuntu have issues with multiple devices on Promise IDE/SATA/RAID Controller cards??
[06:00] <morphix> i cant seem to install with all devices turned on nor even run live cd
[06:00] <dbernar1_> IXKoDiaKXI: a good start would be to post the output of "ifconfig" and "cat /etc/network/interfaces" to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:00] <dr_willis> morphix,  mine dident.
[06:01] <morphix> dr_willis: mines built onto my motherboard tho
[06:01] <hatake_kakashi> hmm.. blah.. oh well.. guess I'm on my own, then. Thanks again for the input people
[06:01] <dbernar1_> IXKoDiaKXI: and answer amphi's question when you get a chance.
[06:01] <IXKoDiaKXI> it ges throught the DHCPREQUEST twice and th DHCPDISCOVER a bunch then says "No DHCPOFFERS received"
[06:01] <dbernar1_> heh
[06:01] <morphix> i should have set chipset rather than card
[06:02] <dbernar1_> IXKoDiaKXI: you tried power cycling the router? and is there any security on the router?
[06:02] <lamp420> hi, I need help getting a configure script to run before compiling liveICE... can anyone help me? =)
[06:02] <dr_willis> morphix,  mine are also.
[06:03] <dr_willis> morphix,  proberly a specific mb/bios/chipset issue
[06:03] <IXKoDiaKXI> yeah i have 64 bit WEP encryption... but ive tried it without WEP and it does the same thing
[06:03] <tonyyarusso> lamp420, It might help you get help to give more detail.
[06:03] <IXKoDiaKXI> yeah ive power cycled the router once before and nothing
[06:03] <lamp420> it says I don't have gtk+ installed but I do... it can't find a gtk-config script... I'm not sure about the best way to get it to recognize it
[06:03] <rewt__> i need help
[06:03] <dbernar1_> suop rewt__
[06:03] <rewt__> accidently took off my su privelages
[06:04] <rewt__> hey db
[06:04] <Mordof> is there any way to say "make all files inside and including this folder to 775"?
[06:04] <dr_willis> Mordof,  chmod -R
[06:04] <dbernar1_> rewt__: reboot, go into recovery mode by hitting escape during boot, then "adduser rewt admin" or replace rewt with your user name, and that should work. You use breezy?
[06:04] <Mordof> dr_willis, thanks
[06:04] <xored> i just deleted a file, how can i reconstruct it ( its a small file )what modprobe to load for hda intel soudn chipsets ?
[06:05] <rewt__> yes
[06:05] <xored> what modprobe to load for hda intel soudn chipsets ?
[06:05] <dr_willis> Mordof,  throw off the GUI shackles! :p
[06:05] <dbernar1_> lamp420: sudo aptitude search gtk look for -dev packages
[06:05] <Mordof> dr_willis, heh
[06:05] <rewt__> no way to do it out of recovery mode
[06:05] <rewt__> ?
[06:05] <dbernar1_> rewt__: not afaik.
[06:05] <lamp420> dbernarl_, thanks
[06:06] <dbernar1_> dber<tab>
[06:06] <dbernar1_> !nicktab
[06:06] <ubuntu> hi
[06:06] <dbernar1_> IXKoDiaKXI: post those two to pastebin that I told you if you can.
[06:07] <lamp420> 101
[06:07] <dbernar1_> lamp420: 1230
[06:07] <IXKoDiaKXI> im about to move my router and cable modem to my room so that i can ethernet cable so it will be a minute
[06:07] <lamp420> dbernar1, you're 1337
[06:08] <kwhatcher> hey does anyone know how to setup a belkin usb wifi adapter?
[06:08] <dbernar1_> lamp420: of course.
[06:08] <kwhatcher> could you help?
[06:09] <tonyyarusso> kwhatcher, First check out !wifi to see if that helps.
[06:09] <kwhatcher> what is that?
[06:09] <morphix> dr_willis my issue is.. if i have sata and 3rd devices on at the same time.. ubuntu kernel panics.. and if i am trying to install ubuntu..the cd drom drive wont mount
[06:09] <danielgravenor> how do I delete /media/hdb1?
[06:09] <morphix> but if i disable sata or 3rd ide
[06:09] <morphix> it works
[06:09] <app3dxf> is there anyone in here who would be able to help me with an ivtv (WinPVR) driver issue?
[06:09] <tonyyarusso> kwhatcher, See the message from ubotu.
[06:10] <morphix> it seems it wont work with sata and 3rd IDE at the same time with goin nuts
[06:10] <morphix> without*
[06:10] <foampeace> we need to stop buying windows crap hardware
[06:10] <foampeace> i have a printer sitting here from canon and theyre against linux
[06:10] <dbernar1_> danielgravenor: you may be better unmounting it. what is on it?
[06:10] <danielgravenor> i need to unmount 2 drives, hdb1 and hdb5... how can I remove them from the /media folder?
[06:11] <dbernar1_> danielgravenor: just use umount, is that what you are asking?
[06:11] <danielgravenor> dbernar1, its just a second harddrive
[06:11] <danielgravenor> dbernar1, yep basically :p
[06:11] <JimmyPToz> how do you set the default mta, or check what is the default mta
[06:11] <dbernar1_> danielgravenor: "sudo umount /dev/hdbX" X is the number.
[06:12] <danielgravenor> dbernar1, what happens if I have already deleted the entries from the fstab? (loL)
[06:12] <foampeace> is there some way i can use a windows printer driver so i can use my printer?
[06:12] <darthbutcher> !dvd
[06:12] <ubotu> dvd is probably DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:12] <dbernar1_> danielgravenor: you mean, that is the error you get?
[06:13] <dbernar1_> foampeace: have you looked at linuxprinting.org?
[06:13] <danielgravenor> dbernar1, yeah, cause i have deleted it from the fstab (lol)
[06:14] <danielgravenor> my installation is going soooooooo wrong.  i have already lost my second hard drive with all my backups of stuff :/
[06:14] <darthbutcher> What is the best program for watching DVDs?
[06:14] <dbernar1_> danielgravenor: show the error message. add them to fstab. Those would be valid options.
[06:14] <overflow-1> I have a USB HDD that appears as /dev/sda1, now through fdisk i created 4 partitions inside it. But then I am unable to create a filesystem on it, that is mkefs -f /dev/sda1p1 etc
[06:14] <dbernar1_> danielgravenor: aww.
[06:15] <zcat[1] > suggestion if you're not 100% sure what you're doing during an install (I do it too).. unplug any drives you can't afford to get wiped.
[06:16] <IXKoDiaKX1> dbernar1 : alright im back and going to paste that on paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:16] <danielgravenor> dbernar1, it says that it isn't mounted
[06:17] <darthbutcher> !dvdplayer
[06:17] <ubotu> darthbutcher: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:17] <dbernar1_> overflow-1: are you sure that exists? /dev/sda1p1? usually it is /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2...look in your /dev directory for more info
[06:17] <darthbutcher> What is the best Ubuntu DVD player?
[06:17] <zcat[1] > sda1 is sda, partition 1
[06:17] <dbernar1_> danielgravenor: then it is not, it seems. do "sudo mount"
[06:17] <zcat[1] > sda1p1 makes no sense
[06:17] <dbernar1_> agreed
[06:18] <zcat[1] > fdisk -l /dev/sda might help..
[06:18] <zcat[1] > (lists partitions on /dev/sda)
[06:19] <overflow-1> dbernar1_, zcat[1]  : I'll check it out and get back. Tnx.
[06:19] <IXKoDiaKX1> dbernar1_: ok its up there
[06:19] <dbernar1_> brb
[06:19] <taylor_> how would i compile "incompetence.tar.gz"
[06:19] <amphi> darthbutcher: I liek mplayer
[06:20] <amphi> er, like
[06:20] <lamp420> dbernar1, ok, it worked.. I feel dumb.
[06:20] <dbernar1_> darthbutcher: any is fine.try xine.
[06:20] <dbernar1_> the feeling is mutual
[06:20] <dbernar1_> haha
[06:20] <amphi> taylor_: tar zxvf incompetence.tar.gz
[06:20] <dbernar1_> no, just joking, but I thought it would be funny to sayu
[06:20] <zcat[1] > taylor_: tar xzf incompetence.tar.gz ; cd incompetence/ ; ./configure ; make
[06:20] <amphi> taylor_: and read README and/or INSTALL
[06:20] <dbernar1_> lamp420: no offense. Common thing to ask here.
[06:20] <taylor_> so that will compile it for me if i copy and paste that?
[06:20] <zcat[1] > compile as in build source code from incompetence.tar.gz ?
[06:21] <zcat[1] > of compile as in make an archive called incompetence.tar.gz?
[06:21] <zcat[1] > s/of/or/
[06:21] <taylor_> build source
[06:21] <zcat[1] > yeah, ok.. what I said :)
[06:21] <Ralith> well, X is working now :)
[06:21] <darthbutcher> !xine
[06:21] <Ralith> but I can't seem to modify my pointer settings.
[06:21] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, darthbutcher
[06:21] <darthbutcher> How do I install sine?
[06:21] <Ralith> Specifically, speed.
[06:21] <darthbutcher> xine*
[06:22] <dbernar1_> IXKoDiaKX1: you did not get an IP address from the router.
[06:22] <zcat[1] > sudo apt-get install build-essentials  might also be a good idea..
[06:22] <IXKoDiaKX1> yeah i do but only when i restart the computer
[06:22] <dbernar1_> turn off the security, and try again. that is what I would do.
[06:22] <darthbutcher> I have little time
[06:22] <zcat[1] > so you have a compiler and stuff.
[06:22] <dbernar1_> IXKoDiaKX1: go get an IP address.
[06:22] <IXKoDiaKX1> once i did dhclient it messed it up
[06:22] <IXKoDiaKX1> alright well ill be right back
[06:22] <rehpotsirhc> anybody know where i can get a ubuntu package for gaim 2?
[06:24] <elkbuntu> it's fairly stable atm
[06:24] <Ralith> I'm unable to modify my cursor acceleration for some reason.
[06:24] <Ralith> I've found the proper dialog and slider, but it doesn't /do/ anything
[06:24] <zcat[1] > Is there an iso for it yet?
[06:24] <lamp420> exit
[06:24] <Ralith> even after logging in/out
[06:24] <lamp420> gah
[06:24] <Ralith> heh
[06:24] <Ralith> 'lo again brenner
[06:24] <morphix> :(
[06:25] <brenner> Ralith: heh, hello. :)
[06:25] <\DCCOLE> i need a respitory for packages
[06:25] <zcat[1] > I'm gonna dist-upgrade my other box and see what breaks.
[06:25] <danl> how does my harddrive become read only on it's own? specifically the partition my home directory is on?
[06:25] <\DCCOLE> like amule
[06:25] <zcat[1] > danl: it failed an fsck?
[06:25] <taylor_> i hate compiling! is there a program that will do it? like a GUI
[06:25] <dbernar1_> danl: it does not. post your /etc/fstab file to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:26] <dbernar1_> taylor_: see checkinstall
[06:26] <danl> seems to be an error in fstab
[06:27] <taylor_> where is checkinstall
[06:27] <taylor_> ?
[06:27] <zcat[1] > /dev/foo /home auto ro 0 0
[06:27] <danl> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8631
[06:28] <brenner> taylor_: compiling what? use checkinstall
[06:28] <MemeticVirus> How long does it usually take for the ubuntu staff to ship a set of CD's?
[06:28] <zcat[1] > MemeticVirus: up to 6 weeks.
[06:28] <MemeticVirus> o
[06:28] <dbernar1_> danl: looks fine here. send this as a message to the channel: "exec -o ls -ld /home"
[06:29] <MemeticVirus> get what you pay for. :P
[06:29] <taylor_> i have a source file "incompetence.tar.gz" on my desktop that i want to be able to run...but i dont understand anything about compiling so i was hoping that there was a GUI to do it for me?
[06:29] <overflow-1> dbernar1_, zcat[1]  : worked! tnx guys
[06:29] <zcat[1] > this creates an opportunity; you can sell them on ebay for $5 overnight and make some profit :)
[06:29] <danl> exec -o ls -ld /home
[06:29] <danl> hrm?
[06:29] <zcat[1] > from ppl that don't want to wait 6 weeks
[06:29] <dbernar1_> sorry
[06:29] <dbernar1_> heh
[06:29] <dbernar1_> danl: looks fine here. send this as a message to the channel: "/exec -o ls -ld /home"
[06:29] <MemeticVirus> zcat is that legal?
[06:29] <danl> drwxr-xr-x  4 danl root 4096 2006-02-09 14:41 /home
[06:29] <taylor_> i have a source file "incompetence.tar.gz" on my desktop that i want to be able to run...but i dont understand anything about compiling so i was hoping that there was a GUI to do it for me
[06:30] <zcat[1] > legal, absoltely. ethical? who knows..
[06:30] <Madpilot> MemeticVirus: it is - the GPL doesn't forbid selling - far from it
[06:30] <dr_willis> the idea of 'running' a tar.gz is incorrect.
[06:30] <MemeticVirus> yeah but that's really not selling it's "re-selling."
[06:30] <taylor_> i know so i neeed to compile it
[06:30] <dr_willis> taylor_,  what is it supposed tobe exactly?
[06:30] <zcat[1] > some ppl think it's kinda sleezy.. I sell them with a quickstart guide and an hour tech support..
[06:30] <taylor_> a halo 2 modding program
[06:30] <beastboy21> what package do i need to open a terminal on "right click"
[06:31] <MemeticVirus> zcat well i suppose that's alright.
[06:31] <taylor_> if i sent the file to someone could they maybe compile it for me?
[06:31] <danl> drwxr-xr-x  69 danl danl 4096 2006-02-14 00:08 /home/danl
[06:31] <dbernar1_> danl: "sudo chown -R danl:danl /home/danl&&sudo chmod -R 711 /home/danl"
[06:31] <MemeticVirus> do you burn your own?
[06:31] <dr_willis> taylor_,  you will have to install  the C compiler and other tools.  'apt-get install build-essential'
[06:31] <beastboy21> what package do i need to open a terminal on "right click"
[06:31] <zcat[1] > nah, get them from shipit.
[06:31] <dbernar1_> beastboy21: nautilus-open-terminal
[06:31] <bimberi> beastboy21: nautilus-open-terminal
[06:31] <nimper> i have a problem installing ubuntu
[06:31] <MemeticVirus> hmm
[06:32] <fangorious> nimper: the first step is admitting it
[06:32] <nimper> yeah
[06:32] <elkbuntu> nimper, specifically?
[06:32] <nimper> lol
[06:32] <nimper> specifically there's something in my bios settings that it doesn't like
[06:32] <beastboy21> thks
[06:32] <nimper> so it takes forever to install and configure.
[06:32] <dbernar1_> danl: that actually looked fine.
[06:32] <nimper> we're talking hours.
[06:32] <danl> hmm
[06:32] <danl> now it's not
[06:32] <elkbuntu> nimper does it say what the prob is?
[06:32] <nimper> no
[06:32] <nimper> it just says check my bios
[06:32] <danl> after running what you sent it looks like this:
[06:32] <danl> drwxr-xr-x  69 danl danl 4096 2006-02-14 00:08 /home/danl
[06:32] <danl> n/m
[06:33] <danl> when i run that form console its different
[06:33] <danl> n/m
[06:33] <danl> when i ran what you sent i got a buch of read only file system errors
[06:33] <zcat[1] > "something in BIOS" == CPU speed 133MHz, RAM 64MB ?
[06:33] <nimper> zcat, no
[06:34] <fangorious> nimper: what part of the install says to check the bios?
[06:34] <nimper> configuring packages
[06:34] <dr_willis> !nvidia
[06:34] <ubotu> somebody said nvidia was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[06:34] <dbernar1_> danl: show them on paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:34] <zcat[1] > set bios back to defaults or fastest, then change boot order and nothing else.. that usually works for me.
[06:34] <fangorious> nimper: is that package selection, or when it's running dpkg-configure on all the installed apps?
[06:35] <lazyM0m3nt> I cant Use NAT for My bittorrent! What should i do with Azereus?
[06:35] <nimper> fangorious, when it's running the config.
[06:35] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: you mean you can't configure your nat device to forward the port?
[06:35] <MemeticVirus> zcat can i see your ebay ad?
[06:35] <lazyM0m3nt> yeh
[06:36] <fangorious> nimper: does it run slow for all of them, or does it happen to slow down on a particular one?
[06:36] <zcat[1] > not actually ebay, and I don't have any listed atm..
[06:36] <nimper> all of them
[06:36] <MemeticVirus> ah ok
[06:36] <JimmyPToz> what is the signifigance of the /var/run directory
[06:36] <zcat[1] > trademe.. a local site like ebay :)
[06:36] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: unless there's some port that you can point back to your machine through the nat, i don't think there is anything you can do
[06:37] <nimper> fwiw i've run memtest86 with no errors
[06:37] <danl> dbernarl_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8632
[06:37] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: it still downloads, right? just not very fast
[06:37] <danl> i only copied some of them
[06:37] <danl> cause it does it for everyfile
[06:37] <anto9us> JimmyPToz, type man hier
[06:37] <zcat[1] > ..afk .. brb
[06:37] <fangorious> nimper: what chipset is your motherboard using?
[06:37] <nimper> nforce4
[06:37] <alex2456> im having trouble running the configure script for this program i want to install because it says im missing libs, so i was wondering if there is some kind of way to use apt-get to install all the required libs for a program in one shot
[06:37] <taylor_> can someone compile a package for me please??....im desperate
[06:37] <nimper> well nforce4 ultra
[06:38] <danl> i am going ot try rebooting
[06:38] <taylor_> http://files.halomods.com/viewtopic.php?t=42925 someone please ompile it for me?
[06:38] <danl> brb
[06:38] <fangorious> nimper: have you searched ubuntuforums.org or bugzilla.ubuntu.com? (i know they moved from bugzilla to malone, but i can never remember the url for that, and bugzilla redirects i think)
[06:38] <dbernar1_> alex2456: yes, if the program is in a known repository
[06:38] <IXKoDiaKXI> dbernar1_: im back and now i cant get it to give me an IP
[06:38] <nimper> not yet
[06:39] <fangorious> alex2456: if your apt repos have the package you want to install, then apt will resolve all it's dependencies. if you're installing from source, it's possible but it won't be as simple
[06:39] <alex2456> yea im installing it from source
[06:39] <taylor_> http://files.halomods.com/viewtopic.php?t=42925 someone please compile it for me?
[06:39] <alex2456> becuase i install a lib, and then im missing another
[06:39] <fangorious> alex2456, you could run 'apt-cache search libname' to try and find the dev packages you need for compiling
[06:40] <piggah> 'lo everyone
[06:40] <wumon> Hi, when KDE sound server is enabled, i can't play sound on xmms or other player, how to fix it please? thanks
[06:40] <alex2456> ok il give that a try
[06:40] <alex2456> thanks alot
[06:40] <dbernar1_> 'lo piggah. I love your nick.
[06:40] <piggah> haha, thanks :P
[06:40] <dbernar1_> IXKoDiaKXI: well, tried removing that security WEP crappy crap?
[06:41] <IXKoDiaKXI> yeah ill do that real quick
[06:41] <alex2456> fangorious: how do you use that
[06:41] <alex2456> do you need to do anything with the libtool
[06:41] <dbernar1_> wumon: you use the artsd?
[06:42] <fangorious> alex2456: nope, if configure says you need libfoo, then run 'apt-cache search libfoo' at a command line to see all packages relevant to libfoo
[06:42] <alex2456> ohhh ok
[06:43] <fangorious> alex2456: for compiling, you'll need the -dev package for each lib
[06:43] <wumon> dbernar1 yes
[06:43] <TiG4> Is there a way to enter the sudo command along with the password all in one line,so that it doesn't ask for "Password:"
[06:43] <TiG4> example:
[06:43] <TiG4> sudo ls -a "password"
[06:43] <TiG4> or something like that
[06:44] <CompBrain> TiG4: you can specify commands that can run with no password in /etc/sudoers
[06:44] <dbernar1_> wumon: in gnome, selecting the output plugin to be esound would fix that. but not sure for kde
[06:44] <alex2456> yea i figured that part out, but what i was wondering is if you can use apt-get to read all the required libs from the libtool
[06:44] <dbernar1_> !xmms
[06:44] <ubotu> methinks xmms is to get xmms to work in Ubuntu Hoary, set the output plugin to eSound (right-click on the XMMS window, then choose Options -> Preferences)
[06:44] <CompBrain> TiG4: do a man sudo or man sudoers for more
[06:44] <TiG4> CompBrain, but I need it for an application I'm writing so that is erronious
[06:44] <fangorious> alex2456: i'm not aware of such an awesome feature for any dependency resolver
[06:44] <Engla_> TiG4: no, it's not possible
[06:44] <TiG4> CompBrain, I need to do it without user interaction (basically user enters passwd)
[06:45] <taylor_> when the icon of a program looks like diamond it is compiled right?
[06:45] <TiG4> CompBrain, so what would this do: passwd sudo -S XXX
[06:45] <TiG4> ?
[06:45] <Engla_> TiG4: You can't use gksudo in this case either?
[06:45] <TiG4> gksudo?
[06:45] <TiG4> unfamiliar with that
[06:45] <Engla_> it's the box that pops up when you open synaptic
[06:45] <dbernar1_> TiG4: how about kdesu?
[06:45] <fangorious> TiG4: i think that would try to set the password for the user sudo
[06:45] <Engla_> gksudo/kdesu are "sudo in a windwo"
[06:46] <TiG4> fangorious, yeah thats what i thought
[06:46] <Engla_> for gnome/kde
[06:46] <taylor_> when the icon of a program looks like diamond it is compiled right?
[06:46] <dr_willis> taylor_,   you may want to use the 'shell'  and  see whats there.
[06:46] <taylor_> whats a shell
[06:46] <dbernar1_> taylor_: executables have the diamond.
[06:46] <dr_willis> taylor_,  the terminal/command line.
[06:46] <Engla_> taylor_: it is "executable" at least
[06:46] <TiG4> Engla_, what exactly is gksudo?
[06:46] <fangorious> taylor_: Applications->Accessories->Terminal (assuming gnome)
[06:46] <taylor_> in the read me it came with it said dont forget to make it executable
[06:46] <Engla_> TiG4: try "gksudo echo hey". That will run "echo hey" with admin privilegs
[06:47] <taylor_> yea im using gnome
[06:47] <Engla_> TiG4: It will pop up a window asking for password
[06:47] <dr_willis> chmode +x whatevrfile
[06:47] <dr_willis> makes a file executable.
[06:47] <fangorious> chmod
[06:47] <TiG4> lol im somehow already given access, is there a way to "un-sudo" mysef
[06:47] <dr_willis> oops ' chmod' :P
[06:47] <TiG4> myself
[06:47] <dr_willis> lol
[06:47] <dr_willis> darn old-skool naming!
[06:47] <CanYouHelpMePlz> wu tang clan
[06:47] <CompBrain> TiG4: its bad practice to try and pass a password on the command line, as it can be seen looking at ps -ef
[06:47] <Engla_> TiG4: there is, but it's in the man page. I don't remember :-)
[06:48] <dbernar1_> CanYouHelpMePlz: agreed.
[06:48] <fangorious> ain't nuthin to chmod with
[06:48] <CanYouHelpMePlz> dbernar1: ;-)
[06:48] <TiG4> CompBrain, do you recommend GKSUDO?
[06:48] <dbernar1_> fangorious: heh
[06:48] <lazyM0m3nt> Emm, What's better -- Reiser Vs EXT3
[06:48] <IXKoDiaKXI> dbernar1_: i took my WEP key off and still nothing now
[06:48] <dr_willis> lazyM0m3nt,  from what i 'hear' in chat rooms - stick with ext3
[06:48] <Engla_> TiG4: what problem do you want to solve. Your solution seems inconventient
[06:48] <Engla_> TiG4: sorry to say it, but why not solve it together
[06:48] <dbernar1_> IXKoDiaKXI: show ifconfig, and /etc/network/interfaces on paste.ubun.....
[06:48] <CompBrain> TiG4: gksudo is graphical sudo essentially, so, its just a gui password prompt instead of a text based one
[06:49] <TiG4> Engla_, I'm writing an application that allows users to change they're splash screen, boot gui, etc.
[06:49] <fangorious> i think reiser is faster in some cases, but ext3 is more stable and has a better journal (as in you will recover better from a crash)
[06:49] <TiG4> Engla_, I didn't find any that I thought were really nice
[06:49] <Engla_> TiG4: You should ask for permissing in a window. Use gksudo. (or kdesu if you're on kde)
[06:49] <Engla_> TiG4: but it sounds nice
[06:49] <TiG4> CompBrain, yes, but it really solves my problem as far as bypassing the shell interface
[06:49] <Engla_> *permission
[06:50] <macsat111> hey installed linux on my mac... but now i want os 9 back... but it wont work. anyone ever done this?
[06:50] <TiG4> Engla_, so gksudo is null in KDE?
[06:50] <Engla_> TiG4: I don't know
[06:50] <lazyM0m3nt> thx
[06:50] <TiG4> Engla_, ok
[06:50] <fangorious> TiG4: no, it's just not installed as part of kde, it is installed as part of gnome
[06:50] <TiG4> Engla_, well esentially I could replace gksudo with kdesu and the same outcome would happen
[06:50] <dbernar1_> macsat111: I am sure someone has done it. try googling.
[06:50] <TiG4> fangorious, same thing
[06:50] <fangorious> TiG4: if you have both installed, you can use either one in either DE
[06:50] <IXKoDiaKXI> dbernar1_: ok its up there again
[06:50] <TiG4> fangorious, well esentially I could replace gksudo with kdesu and the same outcome would happen
[06:51] <fangorious> TiG4: i think so
[06:51] <TiG4> fangorious, I know this may sound wierd, but is there some sort of shell command to determine the current DesktopEnvironment
[06:51] <fangorious> macsat111: did you format the drive, deleting the os 9 partition?
[06:51] <TiG4> KDE/Gnome
[06:51] <taylor_> what do i put after "chmod a+x halo2"?
[06:52] <ubuntu> can somebody help me ? I just installed that alpha 3 and X doesn't start- I get a text login :(
[06:52] <Engla_> taylor_: put after what? how? What do you want to do
[06:52] <fangorious> TiG4: i suppose you could check for a PID for gnome-session to see if gnome is running
[06:52] <taylor_> i mmaking a file an executablew
[06:52] <dr_willis> taylor_,  try running it. ./halo2
[06:52] <taylor_> *executable
[06:52] <TiG4> hmm..
[06:52] <lazyM0m3nt> Why icant see any computer in my network with smb://? But other Windows see my Ubuntu & download files
[06:53] <Engla_> fangorious: or perhaps just check for the gksudo file
[06:53] <TiG4> nice
[06:53] <fangorious> Engla_: yeah, that's probably a lot simpler
[06:53] <TiG4> "locate gksudo"
[06:53] <taylor_> ./halo2: error while loading shared libraries: libpangocairo-1.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:53] <CompBrain> lazyM0m3nt: Computer browsing is a bit wierd, try smb://COMPUTERNAME
[06:53] <dr_willis> lazyM0m3nt,  windows box's dont have the SP2 firewall enabled do they?
[06:53] <taylor_> what does that mean
[06:53] <ubuntu> how do I get X to start ?
[06:53] <dr_willis> taylor_,  means you dont have all the libaries installed that program needs.
[06:53] <taylor_> ok
[06:53] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: do you have the smb client stuff installed, or just the server?
[06:53] <CompBrain> or SMB://I.P.Addr.es
[06:53] <TiG4> Engla_, however, if the user has both KDE and Gnome installed, wont gksudo be installed anyways
[06:53] <Engla_> TiG4: `which gksudo` is probably cooler
[06:53] <lazyM0m3nt> i can see anyone in windows but not ubuntu
[06:53] <Engla_> TiG4: right
[06:54] <Ralith> I have a keyboard with volume up/down keys that ubuntu found and configured on install. However, they were connected to the "Headphone" channel instead of the "Front" channel; this was tested using alsamixer. How can I either change channels or get it to use both?
[06:54] <TiG4> Engla_, well darn
[06:54] <dbernar1_> ubuntu: what graphic card do you have?
[06:54] <lazyM0m3nt> yes, i have
[06:54] <ubuntu> tnt2
[06:54] <ubuntu> 5.10 works fine
[06:54] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: you have what? (it helps to specify who you're replying to :) )
[06:55] <TiG4> Engla_, thanks
[06:55] <TiG4> fangorious, thanks
[06:55] <TiG4> CompBrain, thanks
[06:55] <lazyM0m3nt> i have client
[06:55] <macsat111> hey installed linux on my mac... but now i want os 9 back... but it wont work. anyone ever done this?
[06:55] <piggah> well i think im back for good this time :P
[06:55] <dbernar1_> ight
[06:55] <dbernar1_> n
[06:56] <ubuntu> macsat111, repartition
[06:56] <zcat[1] > why on EARTH would you want os9 back?!!
[06:56] <dr_willis> macsat111,  i had to boot to linux, and use its fdisk tools and delete all the partitions. (assuming you want to get RID of linux)
[06:56] <ubuntu> macsat111, with disk utility or what's its name
[06:56] <ubuntu> HELP ! X won't start !
[06:56] <macsat111> because linux sucks on a 64mb machine... compared to os9
[06:56] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: if specifying a specific computer name or IP address in the location bar doesn't help, try running 'smbclient -I x.x.x.x -L' in a terminal
[06:57] <IXKoDiaKXI> can anyone help me with my wireless problem.. i can find my router using iwlist wlan0 scan but i cant connect to anything
[06:57] <dr_willis> 64mb :P
[06:57] <dr_willis> macsat111,  if you lived  in Indiana  - id give ya a good deal on my imacDV.
[06:57] <zcat[1] > but yeah.. boot from the install CD (hold C while it boots) repartition and run the installer again. Where were you getting stuck?
[06:57] <Engla_> macsat111: do you want to erase everything and install os9, or just reboot to os9?
[06:57] <lazyM0m3nt> fangorious: idont know anyone's IP
[06:58] <taylor_> anyone know where to get "libpangocairo-1.0.so.0"
[06:58] <zcat[1] > RAM is cheap.. my G3 runs sweet on 192M ..
[06:58] <fangorious> on a command line, what happens if you run 'ping windows_machine_name'?
[06:58] <ubuntu> where's the ubuntu bugzilla ?
[06:58] <Ralith> I have a keyboard with volume up/down keys that ubuntu found and configured on install. However, they were connected to the "Headphone" channel instead of the "Front" channel; this was tested using alsamixer. How can I change the channel it controls?
[06:58] <IXKoDiaKXI> can anyone help?
[06:58] <Witigonen> Hey all.  I'm trying to connect my phone via USB and there are all these references to /dev/ttyACM0, but that's not anywhere on my system.  What steps do I take to figure out what's going on?
[06:59] <trooper00> taylor: when I am searching for a package, i find dpkg -l <search pattern> .. helps me a lot.. try dpkg -l libpa* and see what it lists ;)
[06:59] <zcat[1] > s/"RAM is cheap/you can find 128M chips in dumpsters behind computer shops"/
[06:59] <ubuntu> where's the ubuntu bugzilla ? ...
[06:59] <Ralith> As far as I can tell nothing actually uses the headphone channel
[06:59] <Ralith> ubuntu, try bugzilla.ubuntu.org
[06:59] <ubuntu> k
[06:59] <fangorious> ubuntu: bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[06:59] <Ralith> er
[06:59] <Ralith> right
[06:59] <Ralith> com.
[07:00] <Engla_> taylor_: auto-apt has a search function. It says that usr/lib/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0  libs/libpango1.0-0
[07:00] <zcat[1] > ppl upgrade to 1024M and throw their old 128M chips away, seriously. That's how I got all my ram for the last 10 years..
[07:00] <fangorious> ubuntu: then click on "Malone"
[07:00] <Engla_> taylor_: so libpango it is
[07:00] <ubuntu> fangorious, what's that ?
[07:00] <Witigonen> When I dmesg | grep acm I see that the acm usb driver is loaded.
[07:00] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: any luck with the ping command?
[07:00] <lazyM0m3nt> fangorious: no
[07:00] <lazyM0m3nt> fangorious: ping: unknown host MICROSOF-358740
[07:00] <Witigonen> It says that ttyACM0: USB ACM device is there, but it's not in /dev.
[07:01] <taylor_> so what do i "sudo apt get it"
[07:01] <fangorious> ubuntu: point a browser to http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com, on that page is a link titled "Malone" which is the site they moevd to, which i fogert the url of
[07:01] <ubuntu> tks
[07:01] <Engla_> zcat[1] : true about the ram. Recently found 196M in my dorm's storage room
[07:01] <Engla_> taylor_: libpango, it seems
[07:01] <Engla_> taylor_: but that's probably already installed
[07:01] <taylor_> and i need libangocairo
[07:02] <taylor_> *libpangcairo
[07:02] <Engla_> taylor_: but the file libpangocairo is in the package libpango
[07:02] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: windows uses a protocol called netbios to resolve hostnames. but linux doesn't speak it out of the box. you can run 'ipconfig' in a command window on windows to find it's ip address, and add it to /etc/hosts (single line like '<IP_ADDRESS> hostname')
[07:02] <Engla_> taylor_: according to auto-apt, which is a program that does this kind of suff (finds packages for files)
[07:02] <zcat[1] > I can't wait until Vista gets released. I'm gonna score so much free hardware when ppl upgrade to meet the minumum specs fot that!!
[07:03] <lazyM0m3nt> fangorious: ok it will try
[07:03] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: note that if the windows machine is on dhcp, and it's address changes, you will have to change the line for it in /etc/hosts
[07:04] <Ralith> or madwifi
[07:04] <Ralith> er
[07:04] <Ralith> wrong window.
[07:04] <WhyvasLT> DON'T LET IT HAPPEN AGAIN ASSHOLE
[07:04] <lazyM0m3nt> fangorious: do i change it everytime i start Ubuntu?
[07:04] <Ralith> :P
[07:04] <fangorious> lol
[07:04] <Ralith> on that note...
[07:04] <Ralith> does anyone have any clue how to set up ndiswrapper or madwifi?
[07:05] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: you would change it every time the windows machine gets a new ip address (possibly ever time it restarts, but not necessarily)
[07:05] <Protocol1> Ralith: you looking for a wifi monitor?
[07:05] <WhyvasLT> Ralith, wiki does
[07:05] <zcat[1] > do your part for linux hardware support; throw your winshit card away and get something that's supported
[07:05] <heatxsink> where can I find the a sources.list for ubuntu?
[07:05] <Ralith> Protocol1, no, driver :P
[07:05] <Protocol1> oh
[07:05] <Ralith> WhyvasLT, right, sorry, should've looked there first.
[07:05] <Protocol1> i see
[07:05] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: there's a better way that adds netbios name resolution to linux, but i don't know what it is off the top of my head, i'm trying to find the right package name
[07:06] <lazyM0m3nt> fangorious: thx ^^
[07:06] <zcat[1] > I'm just bitter 'cos I could never get ndiswrapper to work
[07:06] <Ralith> :P
[07:06] <Ralith> it's an onboard.
[07:07] <zcat[1] > but seriously the best thing you can do longterm is boycott windows-only hardware.
[07:07] <Ralith> yeh
[07:07] <Ralith> not that that leaves you with much :P
[07:07] <zcat[1] > I got a nice rt2400 card from SMC
[07:07] <Ralith> agreed.
[07:07] <zcat[1] > then some cunt stole my laptop.
[07:08] <Ralith> :P
[07:08] <trooper00> fangorious: nmblookup .. part of the samba package
[07:08] <heatxsink> where can I find a sources.list for ubuntu?
[07:08] <lazyM0m3nt> trooper00: itry it but it dosent work
[07:09] <Engla_> heatxsink: google it! :-). There are a couple on the wiki, too
[07:09] <heatxsink> i'm on the wiki
[07:09] <heatxsink> and I searched for sources.list
[07:09] <heatxsink> nm
[07:09] <Engla_> hawken: you could also just add some sources with synaptic if you want the basic main restricted universe multiverse repos
[07:09] <killapop> heatxsink, try this http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:10] <Engla_> there it is
[07:10] <fangorious> trooper00: no, it's a nss lib, so you can put 'wins' in /etc/nsswitch.conf and globally resolve windows machines by name
[07:10] <wumon> i can;t skin my xmms no skin work this is because i own a powerpc?
[07:10] <heatxsink> killapop:  but does this support dapper?
[07:10] <Engla_> wumon: sounds very improbable
[07:11] <lazyM0m3nt> fangorious: Is that work?
[07:11] <killapop> heatxsink nope.. just breezy and some warty
[07:11] <trooper00> fangorious lazyM0m3nt: its certain that it isn't something stupid, like lack of connectivity.. if the ip isn't even known i don't see how that could be certain
[07:11] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: i used to use it all the time back on red hat and fedora, but i don't think i ever found it on ubuntu
[07:12] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: but trooper00 has a good point about nmblookup, try running 'nmblookup MICROSOF-358740'
[07:13] <lazyM0m3nt> fangorious: i try it with PIMONNS and this
[07:13] <lazyM0m3nt> querying PIMONNS on <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:13] <lazyM0m3nt> name_query failed to find name PIMONNS
[07:13] <ltf> how do i access a share from one ubuntu box to the other?
[07:13] <ltf> i keep getting "access denied"
[07:13] <ltf> session setup failed
[07:14] <lazyM0m3nt> i sometimes too
[07:14] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt:  pimonns is up and connected to the network?
[07:14] <lazyM0m3nt> yes
[07:14] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: xp, with sp2?
[07:14] <lazyM0m3nt> yes, i see from EtherApe
[07:15] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: ok, the lib I'm thinking of is is part of winbind, but you probably don't want to run winbind, so do this
[07:15] <fangorious> sudo apt-get install winbind
[07:15] <fangorious> sudo /etc/init.d/winbind stop
[07:15] <fangorious> sudo update-rc.d -r winbind remove
[07:16] <lazyM0m3nt> ok, it is installing
[07:16] <fangorious> after that, run 'sudo gedit /etc/nsswitch.conf' and put 'wins' at the end of the hosts line
[07:17] <geoffj_> Hi, I'm trying to get an ndiswrapper driver but ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net is returning "403 Forbidden" :( Does everyone else get this problem and know if it is just temporary?
[07:17] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: actually, put it between files and dns, so the line reads "hosts:          files wins dns"
[07:18] <dr_willis> !w32codec
[07:18] <ubotu> from memory, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[07:18] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: assuming no firewall problems blocking netbios packets on either end, you should then be able to do ping a windows machine by hostname, and the address will be resolved automatically
[07:18] <ifwntrends> geoffj_: site loads for me
[07:18] <lazyM0m3nt> fangorious: update-rc.d: error: unknown option
[07:19] <zcat[1] > why not apt-get ndiswrapper ?
[07:19] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: 'sudo update-rc.d'
[07:19] <geoffj_> ifwntrends, Hmm can you give me the url you are using
[07:19] <lazyM0m3nt> it show mw USAGE
[07:19] <ltf> mount //hostname/share /mnt/something -t smbfs
[07:19] <fangorious>  sudo update-rc.d -r winbind remove
[07:20] <ifwntrends> http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/  ...ubuntu comes with ndiswrapper, not the newest version though
[07:20] <ltf> that seems to be right, but the password i put on the server isn't working on the client
[07:20] <geoffj_> zcat[1] , it's the windoze drive I need
[07:20] <ltf> and i have NO idea why
[07:20] <fangorious> ltf: it could be an issue with the windows machine expecting an encrypted password, and samba sending it plaintext.
[07:20] <zcat[1] > you need to get the windows driver from your windows partiton, usually.. I wouldn't have expected sf.net to host binary-only drivers for windows.
[07:21] <lazyM0m3nt> fangorious: update-rc.d: error: unknown option again
[07:21] <ltf> fangorious, there's not windows machine, just two ubuntu machines
[07:21] <fangorious> sorry, -f
[07:21] <geoffj_> ifwntrends, that is the url I'm using any clues why I would get forbidden?
[07:21] <fangorious> ltf, then why are you using smb? why not nfs?
[07:21] <geoffj_> zcat[1] , Not according to the ubuntu wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[07:21] <ltf> i don't know how to use nfs
[07:22] <fangorious> ltf: 'man /etc/exports' to see how to configure a share
[07:22] <zcat[1] > btw; why does wiki.ubuntu.com have an invalid SSL cert?
[07:22] <ltf> ok
[07:22] <fangorious> ltf: then 'sudo /etc/init.d/nfs restart to have nfsd read it and share them
[07:23] <fangorious> ltf: then on the client, 'mount host:/path/to/share /mnt/point -t nfs' should mount it
[07:23] <ifwntrends> geoffj_: the link you posted is what i used to get mine working just apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils, and get the ndiswrapper gtk package they list and your driver from the list
[07:23] <ltf> cool
[07:24] <fangorious> ltf: people smarter than me can point you to amd or autofs so you can run 'ls /net/server' to see all nfs shares on 'server'
[07:24] <trooper00> zcat[1] : it does inspire confidence, doesn't it
[07:24] <geoffj_> ifwntrends, It is the windoze driver I need for the chipset id: 14e4:4320
[07:24] <shekhar> help! i have no sound!
[07:24] <Madpilot> zcat[1] : because the ubuntu web admins are too busy :P
[07:25] <geoffj_> ifwntrends, oh I'll try that
[07:25] <zcat[1] > yeah, I would have expected better considering the sabdfl made most of his money from issuing SLL certs..
[07:25] <zcat[1] > SSL rather
[07:25] <lazyM0m3nt> fangorious: ping: unknown host PIMONNS
[07:25] <ifwntrends> geoffj_: try this ftp://ftp.support.acer-euro.com/notebook/aspire_1500/drivers/80211g.zip
[07:25] <ifwntrends> same drivers as me
[07:26] <geoffj_> ifwntrends, thanks
[07:26] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: well, at this point i'll have to guess there's a firewall in your way
[07:27] <lazyM0m3nt> fangorious: Ok, i can ping PIMONNS
[07:27] <yiannis> exit
[07:27] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: now try pointing nautilus to smb://pimonns/
[07:28] <zcat[1] > SMB is horrible.. after getting everything sorted out, it can still refuse to work for ages until the master-browser gets around to updating things.. and then it suddently works.
[07:28] <lazyM0m3nt> fangorious: Ok, i can use that! thx
[07:28] <zcat[1] > windows in general is horrible, actually.. SP2 makes life intersting.
[07:28] <fangorious> ltf: actually, you can find a gui to configure shares at System->Administration->Shared Folders
[07:29] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: np, glad i finally tracked down the libnss-wins package on ubuntu
[07:29] <ltf> i saw the gui
[07:29] <ltf> but on the client side i was having the problems
[07:29] <ltf> it was prompting me for a password
[07:29] <lazyM0m3nt> fangorious: But in ubuntu ... Places->Network Server -> Windows Network =  items
[07:29] <zcat[1] > spent most of friday trying to sort out some braindamaged XP firewall. In the end I gave up on the paid-for product and just went with SP2's firewall and AVG!
[07:29] <ltf> which i set using smbpassword
[07:29] <lazyM0m3nt> fangorious: But in ubuntu ... Places->Network Server -> Windows Network =  0 items
[07:30] <zcat[1] > but enough ranting :)
[07:30] <lazyM0m3nt> fangorious: it ask my password..
[07:30] <ltf> but it didn't matter
[07:30] <zcat[1] > lazyM0m3nt: press enter ?
[07:30] <fangorious> ltf: yeah, nfs uses hostnames to authenticate the share, the file ownership and permissions (so you may want to double check that UIDs are the same on each machine)
[07:30] <lazyM0m3nt> i show me 0 items
[07:30] <zcat[1] > by default windows uses RMS's old password..
[07:31] <lazyM0m3nt> zcat[1] : it ask me to enter password for my machine!!!
[07:33] <Engla_> lazyM0m3nt: that's the practice, to let you know when you are changing vital system settings
[07:33] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: does the same username exist on both the client and the server?
[07:33] <Engla_> (and files)
[07:33] <Protocol1> this is fun....restoring a friends laptop
[07:33] <lazyM0m3nt> yes
[07:34] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: you can browse windows -> linux, but not linux -> windows?