[06:43] <urlin2u> samy3, you might want to get acquainted with synaptic as well, I prefer it over the software center more info really, it is in the admin area.
[06:43] <devsys> Hmm so what do I do about it?
[06:43] <samy3> http://pastebin.com/nUALHX7N here is the error when i use apt-get install dkms
[06:44] <urlin2u> samy3, did you use sudo?
[06:44] <KE1HA> samy3: ua need sudo to install dkms
[06:44] <samy3> no urlin2u
[06:44] <KE1HA> sudo apt-get install dkms
[06:44] <linn00b> exit
[06:44] <Myrtti> he is using root terminal
[06:44] <urlin2u> samy3, you don't need to be in root and shouldn't be
[06:45] <KE1HA> That's gonna cause issues
[06:45] <samy3> ok omg again error comes using sudo
[06:45] <KE1HA> especially with dynamic kernel module compilation
[06:45] <urlin2u> samy3, is this a fresh install have you run a regualar update?
[06:46] <samy3> let meyes fresh install
[06:46] <samy3> yes it is fresh install
[06:46] <urlin2u> samy3, run this then the dkms  sudo apt-get update
[06:46] <MikeChelen> is there any way to adjust the sizes of the close, minimize, and maximize icons in 11.04?
[06:47] <devsys> Hmm so can I force the deb to overwrite it?
[06:47] <urlin2u> samy3, really a update and upgrade probably should n=be run before adding apps
[06:48] <samy3> when i use dkms sudo apt-get update then this error come http://pastebin.com/rujbKebf
[06:49] <urlin2u> samy3, the sudo is the first thing run   sudo apt-get update   is the command
[06:49] <KE1HA> cuz your tryting to tell a package name to do something .. sudo apt-get update   first, them upgrade, then install dkms
[06:49] <urlin2u> KE1HA, ;)
[06:50] <urlin2u> samy3, you will get the hang of it. ;)
[06:50] <samy3> ok urlin2u some package start installing on my pc
[06:50] <samy3> :)
[06:51] <urlin2u> samy3, it should show in the terminal, probably a bunch of packages will appear and a y/n for install.
[06:52] <samy3> yes urlin2u still installing. Hey can i ask you how red color appears when you wirte to me?
[06:53] <urlin2u> samy3, if you type the nic the first few letter then hit tab it should complete, the red is so you see I'm talking to you.
[06:53] <Ssn> transmission says port is closed when i have that port open in the router, is there other system setting i should tweak?
[06:54] <samy3> urlin2u, ok got it and also sudo apt-get update command is completed what to do next?
[06:55] <urlin2u> samy3, what do you see in the terminal?
[06:55] <Ssn> also I've tried disabling ufw/enable ufw but allowing that port, wouldn't work either way
[06:55] <wrtiii> well it's confirmed that this server supports hot swapping sata drives at least ;)
[06:56] <KE1HA> wrtiii: that's progress from where we were fer sure.
[06:56] <onats> hey
[06:56] <urlin2u> samy3, in ubuntu the update command only gathers whats available, so did you see a packages for install and a y/n for installation?
[06:56] <onats> does 'brogrammer' have negative connotations?
[06:56] <samy3> urlin2u, http://pastebin.com/n4nkLeCp
[06:57] <KE1HA> urlin2u: just give hime the whole line with the && statement, he's goo to go on updates
[06:57] <urlin2u> samy3, this is the ubuntu channel we can't help with backtrack, sorry.
[06:58] <wrtiii> KE1HA: Just loaded up gparted from my hirens stick and wipe all drive partitions. first attempt to reinstall the installer wouldn't do the partitioning guided w/o lvm because of the already existing lvm partitions
[06:58] <KE1HA> wrtiii: gotta love LVM ey :-)
[06:59] <samy3> urlin2u, please help me with this :) if you don't mind. otherwise tell me where can i get help regarding this?
[06:59] <KE1HA> samy3: now you need to upgrade the packages: sudo apt-get upgrade    then answer Y when it asks you.
[06:59] <urlin2u> samy3, I would except that this is the ubuntu chanell I would rather not be banned.
[06:59] <KE1HA> after that's done, you can install dkms
[06:59] <wrtiii> KE1HA: Yea.. it's amazing... haha  I'm sure in a desktop situation it would be great. but for a server.. the option should be removed from the installer
[07:00] <samy3> ok urlin2u ,
[07:00] <wrtiii> KE1HA: and really.. why LVM at all... what was wrong with partition magic and a floppy disk.. ;)
[07:01] <KE1HA> wrtiii: in most cased HW RAID is the best way to go fer true servers, but for testing and such, multi-signgle dives are ok.
[07:01] <MikeChelen> can the size of the close, minimize,
[07:01] <MikeChelen> and maximize buttons be adjusted in 11.04?
[07:01] <KE1HA> wrtiii: I used LVM a few times, until I had the headache you've had, and that was enough.
[07:01] <samy3> KE1HA, http://pastebin.com/n4nkLeCp when i used this sudo apt-get update
[07:02] <Guest48548> hi i am using e1505 and i just installed xubuntu 11.04 but my ireless doesn't seem to ork
[07:02] <Myrtti> !backtrack > samy3
[07:02] <KE1HA> samy3: it is: sudo apt-get upgrade  ... not update agian
[07:02] <_nickel> I'm trying to add Natty as an "affected project" on Launchpad and I can't seem to figure it out. Anyone have a moment to help me?
[07:02] <_nickel> to a bug on Launchpad.net that is
[07:03] <Guest48548> can anyone help me with wifi on xubuntu my hardware is dell e1505 a broadcom wireless chip
[07:04] <wrtiii> KE1HA: I was toying with the software raid idea, but it's just my own personal server. What I require is the ability to keep an "out-of-date" image of my working system should I wrecked my system learning how to configure a shared user database across multiple services. Then I can go uh-oh.. and reimage and save myself a couple hours worth of setup getting the server back to where it was
[07:04] <wrtiii> KE1HA: Where with a raid setup my mistakes would be saved before I knew I made them :P
[07:05] <wrtiii> KE1HA:  Do you install the LAMP and SSH directly from the installer tasksel menu? or do you bring the system up with a minimal install and then run tasksel @ first login?
[07:06] <KE1HA> wrtiii: SW RAID is as bad as LVM, mabye worse. HW-RAID and a good off system back up is best way to go IMHO
[07:06] <KE1HA> wrtiii: Install SSH first, then make sure it's working, then go back into tasksel and do LAMP
[07:06] <wrtiii> KE1HA: at the risk of getting beaten I'm honestly beginning to wonder if linux is truly the way to go or not ;)
[07:07] <samy3> hi how can i open the .rar file?
[07:07] <KE1HA> wrtiii: for Server, definately the way to go.
[07:08] <skpl> is there a way to change my cursor theme in natty narwal?
[07:08] <KE1HA> Then again, there's only one WinDoze box in the house here, the wife's WOrk Laptop, the rest are all UB Linux.
[07:09] <KE1HA> samy3: Hows the upgrade going, still installing?
[07:09] <wrtiii> KE1HA: I've been directly supporting a server of 2500 terminals and indirectly supporting the rest of the country + we are currently gearing up our deployable networks which will link into the network via satellite uplink and I don't think I've ever encountered the amount of problems I've come across in the past week trying to get linux working on 1 machine (4 machines if you include the other
[07:09] <wrtiii> 3 that just did not like linux)
[07:09] <samy3> KE1HA, yes upgrade still installing , net speed is slow
[07:09] <weside> I like linucks :)
[07:10] <KE1HA> samy3: Ok no worries, let us know when it's done.
[07:10] <wrtiii> KE1HA: Automatic Security Updates..  I am so bookmarking that
[07:13] <urlin2u> wrtiii, the linux set up at the Hadron collider seems to work and the about60% of the servers on the net that are either uunix or linux , amongst others and googles servers. ;)
[07:13] <weside> Has anybody played around with Ubuntu 11.10 alpha yet?
[07:14] <wrtiii> urlin2u: Yea but I bet none of them are P4 era dells
[07:14] <urlin2u> weside, yes there is a actual channel for more help #ubuntu+1
[07:14] <urlin2u> wrtiii, my p3 run fine
[07:14] <weside> cool
[07:14] <urlin2u> *runs
[07:14] <KE1HA> OT I know but, Cisco owns the pipes, Linux runs the Net :-)
[07:15] <wrtiii> urlin2u: I went through 3 pc's all GX280, GX620 and a Lenovo P4 era.  None of them would take a standard ubuntu install all of would install fine. pc would post then lock up
[07:15] <urlin2u> the fastest super computers at least 70% run a linux variant.
[07:16] <urlin2u> wrtiii, I suspect that your new at this am I correct?
[07:16] <wrtiii> If it wasn't for the fact that I completed the exact same install process on my laptop without incident I would of blamed myself as the common failure point
[07:16] <smokeycastle> I have an issue with switching to console previously I was able to go ctrl + alt +f1 to switch to console however now when I do it i stay on the gui I just lose the ability to interact with anything until i press ctrl + alt + f7. any ideas what has happened?
[07:16] <wrtiii> urlin2u: depends what your suspecting I am new to
[07:16] <urlin2u> wrtiii, open source
[07:17] <wrtiii> that's a fair enough statement
[07:17] <wrtiii> Last contact was slackware about 15 years ago so old, new, either works :P
[07:17] <urlin2u> wrtiii, no biggie it is not always plug and play, but nice when it is. ;)
[07:18] <wrtiii> Well I still gotta get the paperwork past the boss for having one of the good towers at home so I may be figuring out how to get the install to work on one of the older machines in a couple weeks ;)
[07:18] <wrtiii> At any rate, So What about the automatic security updates. my install is waiting for an answer
[07:19] <KE1HA> you have to tell it if you want them to do it or not
[07:19] <urlin2u> wrtiii, seems logical to install security updates.
[07:19] <wrtiii> on one hand, once I deploy I may be away for 6-9 months with very limited or possibly no access to my server. so would be good to have the security updates being done automaticaly
[07:20] <wrtiii> but then again I don't want the system going down because of some failure in the auto update process
[07:20] <wrtiii> So I guess my question is, How stable is the automatic security update process?
[07:21] <KE1HA> Security updates are well testing from my experience, when you get into third party or exotic apps it can get a bit tricky.
[07:21] <KE1HA> .. well tested ..
[07:21] <urlin2u> wrtiii, peronally  know nothing in the server area, if you don't get answers that satisfy you here, try #ubuntu-server.
[07:21] <urlin2u>  personally*
[07:22] <wrtiii> lol keep going to different channels until someone gives me the answer I want ? ;)
[07:22] <rokra> Hi, I installed ubuntu yesterday alongside win7 but I have no multiboot option , and I have only the boot to win7 any ideas?
[07:23] <urlin2u> roknir, you need to reload grub2 tho the mbr.
[07:23] <KE1HA> wrtiii: that's the right answer :-) .. Also, sticking with the LTS release bundles are best for server, unless you must have something from a later distro.
[07:23] <urlin2u> roknir, what is the other distro besides W7
[07:23] <rokra> only ubuntu 11
[07:24] <rokra> urlin2u: I need to read the doc grub2 because I don t want to break the mbr
[07:24] <wrtiii> KE1HA: good point, and you mention this after I am 3/4 of the way through the install process again... haha
[07:24] <urlin2u> roknir, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Copy%20LiveCD%20Files
[07:24] <KE1HA> wrtiii: The box Im on now is 10.04 LTS so are my servers, but have several boxes here that are all on Natty.
[07:25] <urlin2u> rokra, sorry your nic is very close to another, the mbr is easy to deal with. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Copy%20LiveCD%20Files
[07:25] <wrtiii> KE1HA: What's the life span left on 10.04 LTS?
[07:26] <auronandace> !lts | wrtiii
[07:26] <KE1HA> wrtiii: 3yrs fer Desktop and 5 for servers I think, need to check that.
[07:26] <KE1HA> Ahh, the BOT got t it first :-)
[07:26] <wrtiii> That does not answer my question though :P
[07:27] <urlin2u> rokra, does the link make sense just 3 commands form a booted naty cd to fix you uo.
[07:27] <wrtiii> What was the release date of the current LTS version?
[07:27] <KE1HA> Oh, SRI, Left on .. well 10.04 came out in April 2010 :-)
[07:27] <auronandace> wrtiii: it does, the release numbers are based on the date: 10.04 = april 2010
[07:28] <fowl> derp
[07:28] <wrtiii> I'll be posted and have to return this server before spring 2013. at the very latest july of 2013 :P
[07:28] <wrtiii> any huge changes between 10.04 and 11.04 server versions?
[07:29] <KE1HA> tht's you'd ahve to ask ubuntu-server guys on, I test the ISO install, but not much else untill a year before upgrading.
[07:29] <Lasers> wrtiii: HUGE.
[07:29] <Lasers> wrtiii: Oh server version. Nevermind!
[07:31] <rokra> urlin2u: thanks, should be OK
[07:31] <wols> wrtiii: 10.04 is a lot longer supported
[07:31] <rokra> urlin2u: rebooting on the disk now , I hope ;)
[07:31] <urlin2u> rokra, cool the mbr can be intimidating. ;)
[07:32] <kz3> as soon as I am typing "sudo apt-get update" in the terminal I am getting this error "E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/http could not be found." what should I do?
[07:32] <wrtiii> Alright fine I'll download another ISO
[07:32] <wrtiii> :)
[07:33] <wrtiii> oh comon.. zzzz... Anyone know of any highspeed mirrors for the 10.04.3 LTS 64 Bit ISO?
[07:33] <bullgard4_> [Natty server with GNOME 2] "Please enter your password to access problem report of system programs" If I enter the password of the current user which gives sudo access, then I cannot report my problem because the computer does not open the problem reporting routine. What should I do?
[07:33] <auronandace> wrtiii: torrents might be faster
[07:34] <wols> kz3: the directory should look like this http://paste.debian.net/125337/
[07:34] <wrtiii> does ubuntu list a certified torrent of it or something?
[07:34] <kz3> wols : which directory?
[07:35] <Lasers> !torrent | wri
[07:35] <Lasers> !torrents | wrtiii
[07:35] <wols> kz3: the directory which is shown in my paste and your error message...
[07:35] <kz3> wols : how should I solve the error?
[07:35] <Algorith> transmission has a cli?
[07:35] <krazykrivda> I have been using fstab to mount a vfat partition, but it no longer gives me any access to modify files.  what should I do?
[07:35] <wols> bullgard4_: gksu <xterm> or sudo <shell>  then start the problem reporting stuff
[07:36] <KE1HA> it's probably an error in the source.list
[07:36] <wols> kz3: the question is how does this dierctory look at your end?
[07:36] <urlin2u> wrtiii, http://ubuntu.cs.utah.edu/releases/10.04/
[07:36] <wols> KE1HA: if a apt binary is missing, it's a sources.list problem?
[07:37] <wols> KE1HA: the method driver missing is not "hztpfoo" but "http"
[07:37] <wrtiii> haha! 2MB/s is so much nicer than 200k download speed :)
[07:37] <kz3> wols : it says bash: /usr/lib/apt/methods/http: No such file or directory
[07:37] <KE1HA> My bad, i was reading that all wrong.
[07:38] <Lasers> Algorith: Yes.
[07:38] <bullgard4_> wols: Thank you.
[07:38] <wols> kz3: I asked for the content of the directory. you already told us the error message.
[07:40] <rokra> urlin2u: omg
[07:40] <urlin2u> rokra, what's up?
[07:40] <rokra> urlin2u: it is not working , still booting on win7 directly without multiboot
[07:40] <wols> krazykrivda: what is your fstab line for it?
[07:41] <rokra> urlin2u: I think I have understand but need to check something can you help me , because I m bad with grub etc..
[07:41] <wols> rokra: what is your grub-install line you used?
[07:41] <KE1HA> wols: I'm sure I've seen a bug report on that error though somwhere.
[07:41] <krazykrivda> wols: this is what mount returns for it: /dev/sda5 on /mnt/FILES type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=100,umask=000)
[07:41] <urlin2u> rokra, can you boot the live natty cd and paste bin the output of sudo fdisk -lu
[07:42] <rokra> wols: mount /dev/sda1 /mnt then grub-install... sda
[07:42] <auronandace> rokra: do you have more than one diskdrive?
[07:42] <wols> KE1HA: could very well be. reinstalling apt should solve the problem possibly but I'm not sure, hence why I asked him. but he doesn't want to answer, so *shrug*
[07:42] <rokra> but I have 2 disks one ssd ( sda) and on sata sdb
[07:42] <kz3> wols : ls /usr/lib/apt/methods
[07:42] <kz3> bzip2  copy  ftp   gzip  https  mirror  rsh
[07:42] <kz3> cdrom  file  gpgv  http  lzma   rred    ssh
[07:42] <wols> rokra: I want you exact line, not the other stuff around
[07:42] <urlin2u> rokra, I will get you working it is area I'm quite familiar with.
[07:42] <auronandace> rokra: is windows on the sdb disk?
[07:42] <rokra> seems the mbr is on sdb because I disconnected the sata disk from the pc and I got the grub commadn line
[07:43] <urlin2u> rokra, looks like you have help here, call if you need mine. ;)
[07:43] <rokra> auronandace: no , the sda has 2 partition the windows and the linux , I m running both OS on the ssd disk n and the sata is just  for diskspace
[07:44] <rokra> wols: I m looking the article to give you the exact line
[07:44] <rokra> urlin2u: you can help me as well :p
[07:45] <KE1HA> wols: dont know if it's exactly the same, but it's close: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/790315
[07:45] <wols> rokra: I don't care what the article says, I care what YOU typed!
[07:45] <rokra> wols: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[07:45] <urlin2u> rokra, multiple helpers can get things confused and frustrating.
[07:45] <rokra> wols: sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda
[07:46] <wrtiii> What version of IRC is everyone running.. Are invision and the other one that started with an "E" still being used?
[07:46] <urlin2u> chat
[07:46] <urlin2u> xchat
[07:46] <rokra> irssi
[07:46] <KE1HA> Konversation
[07:46] <Algorith> irssi
[07:46] <wols> KE1HA: IF he typed the error message in here properly, this is not at all like the bug you linked
[07:46] <rick__> hey folks, i just installed ubuntu 11.04. Also, i have installed the Gnome remote desktop. But the problem is then when i do a remote desktop to my ubuntu, i do not see any of the open apps.
[07:46] <rick__> Any ideas about that
[07:47] <wols> !polls | wrtiii
[07:47] <wrtiii> wols: really..
[07:47] <rokra> urlin2u: do you know how can I check that the mbr is not on the sdb disk
[07:48] <wols> wrtiii: you don't want 1500 people in here answering your poll
[07:48] <rokra> urlin2u: because I didthe grub-install on the sda
[07:48] <KE1HA> wols: ok, i need to backtrack some then as I thought that's what he types.
[07:48] <wols> KE1HA: your bug was 'http  while his typing was simply http
[07:49] <urlin2u> rokra, yes but wols can get you going, but there is a bootscript that will tell you that and much more.
[07:49] <krazykrivda> wols: any advice for me? ;-)
[07:49] <KE1HA> Ahh. 'http and not just http got it, tnx
[07:49] <wols> urlin2u: why. you said you have experience and could help him. you were right with confusion by too many helpers
[07:49] <urlin2u> !bootscript
[07:49] <wols> urlin2u: which is why I stopped
[07:49] <wrtiii> wols: It was not a poll and I did not ask what was "best" merely asked if anyone was still using scripts like invision. but then again I may just be splitting hairs here.  I figure I might as well get comfortable I imagine as I get more fluid with ubuntu I'll be answering some questions myself when the oppurtunity comes up
[07:49] <urlin2u> rokra, http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[07:50] <royst> hi all
[07:50] <wols> kz3: you can download the apt deb file and install with dpkg -i  but it's a shot in the dark
[07:50] <wols> !info apt
[07:50] <urlin2u> wols, no problem you can do this I just wanted to make sure there are set up . ;)
[07:51] <cmanns> What would cause ubuntu grub command line not to have commands like root
[07:51] <rokra> urlin2u: running
[07:51] <wols> cmanns: missing stage 1.5 and stage 2 files most likely. what dos "help" say?
[07:52] <wols> cmanns: and are you getting the grub menu or an error?
[07:52] <urlin2u> rokra, cool are you on the live cd as well?
[07:52] <wols> !pm > wrtiii
[07:52] <rokra> urlin2u: yes
[07:52] <cmanns> Like uh
[07:52] <cmanns> unknown command root wols
[07:53] <cmanns> I'm trying to use grub to usbboot an old laptop that wont usb boot due to bios
[07:53] <wols> cmanns: more explanation needed
[07:53] <urlin2u> rokra, good I wil look at the script, it sounds like you got the grub into the wrong mbr is all the problem is probably.
[07:54] <rokra> urlin2u: I have he result
[07:54] <cmanns> I tried grub> usb, says USB devices: (none) too which potentially sucks
[07:54] <theadmin> cmanns: Ubuntu uses GRUB2.
[07:54] <theadmin> cmanns: "root" isn't a command there, for instance
[07:54] <cmanns> My goal's to boot off USB but this laptop doesn't support it (Thus I pxe installed ubuntu)
[07:54] <theadmin> cmanns: Neither is "kernel", actually
[07:54] <rokra> urlin2u:  Grub2 (v1.99) is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda , Windows is installed in the MBR of /dev/sdb.
[07:54] <cmanns> theadmin, can grub2 boot from usb on a laptop that wont boot from usb?
[07:54] <bullgard4_> Natty server 64 Bit with GNOME 2 ignores the key AltGr. Therefore I cannot login. the keyboard layout is displayed as »Deutschland«. How to fix this? This problem seems to be related to that in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1514984.
[07:54] <cmanns> Appears grub can do this =/
[07:54] <urlin2u> rokra, paste the whole generated file here then post a link to it. http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[07:54] <rokra> urlin2u: what is the best way to use?
[07:54] <theadmin> cmanns: I think yes, but idk how, I'm not familiar with Grub2 at all
[07:56] <rokra> urlin2u: http://paste.ubuntu.com/660339/
[07:56] <Generic_Dumbass> Flashgot doesn't work on Linux I guess.  What should I use instead?
[07:56] <urlin2u> rokra, cool hold on
[07:57] <theadmin> Generic_Dumbass: There's quite a few downloaders. jDownloader is a good example.
[07:57] <theadmin> Generic_Dumbass: Also, Flashgot does work on Linux
[07:57] <Generic_Dumbass> Ctrl-F7, my go to command, is grayed out in Firefox
[07:57] <theadmin> Generic_Dumbass: Except it's for Firefox...
[07:57] <Generic_Dumbass> so, at least part of it doesn't work
[07:57] <theadmin> Generic_Dumbass: idk
[07:57] <cmanns> Might try this
[07:57] <cmanns> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-laptop-and-netbook-25/how-to-boot-from-an-usb-stick-without-bios-support-using-grub2-776192/#post3867081
[07:57] <cmanns> Sound viable?
[07:58] <FloodBot1> cmanns: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:58] <shorttech> does anyone know how to remove the vertical mouse move from KDE that shows a 2d image of all the windows (applications) open on the desktop???
[07:58] <theadmin> shorttech: Maybe people on #kde do.
[07:58] <shorttech> #kde
[07:58] <theadmin> shorttech: /join #kde
[07:59] <shorttech> theadmin, than kyo u
[07:59] <cmanns> How did I flood?
[07:59] <urlin2u> rokra, you have grub in the sda1 partition, and the /bootmgr /Boot/BCD  which should be in sda1 in sdb1
[08:00] <theadmin> cmanns: It's a bot, if you send messages too often it'll warn you
[08:00] <theadmin> like
[08:00] <theadmin> this
[08:00] <urlin2u> rokra, the grub in windows can be a problem.
[08:00] <rokra> urlin2u: what is /Boot/BCD??
[08:00] <urlin2u> rokra, it is part of the W7 boot
[08:00] <rokra> urlin2u: what is the best way , can I move the mbr windows to sda1 which is the windows system disk?
[08:00] <bullgard4_> How can I switch off compiz so that it will not start at reboot?
[08:01] <bullgard4_> (Natty)
[08:01] <theadmin> bullgard4_: System, Preferences, Appearance, Visual Effects, None
[08:01] <rokra> reading some article , I can see the command ms-sys ... ?
[08:01] <cmanns> ic theadmin
[08:01] <wols> bullgard4_: disabloe your display manager: /etc/init/gdm
[08:01] <theadmin> wols: lolwut?
[08:02] <Lasers> That'll take off compiz for sure. :)
[08:02] <wols> theadmin: depends what he wants. my solution might not be what he wants tho
[08:02] <urlin2u> rokra, that question does not make sense, what you need to do is remove grub from the sda1 partition and get the missing /bootmgr /Boot/BCD in
[08:02] <theadmin> wols: You don't typically kill flies with a hammer
[08:03] <theadmin> wols: He just wants to get rid of visual effects, that's all
[08:03] <wols> urlin2u: it doesn't matter what's in sda1 but only what is in sda
[08:03] <bullgard4_> wols: How can I switch off compiz so that it will not start at reboot? I cannot login because Natty does not accept a AltGr keypress.
[08:03] <wols> theadmin: he has bug reporting to do which means he has a problem. so my solution is not as draconian as it seems
[08:03] <KE1HA> His config, form what he posted looks correct, as long as the grub2.cfg is right.
[08:04] <wols> bullgard4_: compiz has nothing to do with logging in. what do you actually need to not load?
[08:04] <urlin2u> wols, okay then read the script and fix it there are mssing files in the wsda1 that windows needs.
[08:04] <KE1HA> He should probably chroot in from a LiveCD and update grub
[08:05] <rokra> urlin2u: so what is the best thing to do :(
[08:05] <urlin2u> there a is also a grub in the W7 as well.
[08:06] <bullgard4_> wols: I do not know exactly what you call "actually need to not load". --  What I can tell you is that I cannot login because my Natty does not accept the AltGr keypress.
[08:06] <urlin2u> rokra, do you have the W7 disc?
[08:06] <samy3> KE1HA, sudo apt-get upgrade ... done
[08:06] <samy3> what next?
[08:06] <wols> bullgard4_: the place you login has NOTHING to do with compiz. at all. what you use to login is the display manager
[08:06] <JZApples> I have an external RAID 10 array hooked up to my computer via USB, should I add that to fstab and if so, should I just use defaults for the options?????
[08:07] <KE1HA> samy3: cool, you should probably reboot the box as more than likely there was a Kernel update, then one logged back in, sudo apt-get install dkms
[08:07] <wols> bullgard4_: and to disable that, my advice from above was the right one
[08:07] <ikonia> JZApples: usb raid device, doesn't sound like a good idea
[08:07] <theadmin> bullgard4_: On the bottom of the login manager, AFTER user selection, you should select your keyboard layout
[08:07] <bullgard4_> wols: My problem seems to be related to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1514984.
[08:07] <samy3> ok KE1HA :)
[08:07] <JZApples> ikonia, why, it works great.
[08:07] <theadmin> bullgard4_: If that keyboard layout uses AltGr, it'll work
[08:07] <wols> JZApples: what filesystem on the raid?
[08:07] <ikonia> JZApples: is it a hardware raid device ?
[08:07] <mASOUD_42> why is does not work? http://paste.ubuntu.com/660343/
[08:07] <JZApples> wols, ext4
[08:07] <JZApples> ikonia, yes, hardware raid
[08:08] <ikonia> JZApples: does it auto mount when you plug it in ?
[08:08] <urlin2u> rokra, lest fix windows firstr follow this link and when you have just W7 booting again run the script and post it.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/660344/
[08:08] <JZApples> ikonia, it does, but it might not always be turned on when the computer boots.
[08:08] <ikonia> JZApples: then leave it out of fstab
[08:09] <JZApples> What is the proc row in fstab for?
[08:09] <theadmin> JZApples: procfs
[08:09] <theadmin> JZApples: Do not take that out.
[08:10] <bullgard4_> theadmin: I do not know how I could make good use of your statement: "[10:07]	<theadmin>	bullgard4_: If that keyboard layout uses AltGr, it'll work". It does not work.  There is a keyboard layout selector.
[08:11] <theadmin> bullgard4_: Select yours, e.g. "German (Germany)" or whatnot.
[08:11] <theadmin> bullgard4_: Do not leave it as "US English"
[08:12] <JZApples> Will you guys review my fstab config before I save it and let me know if something looks fishy?  /dev/md0 is a software raid array.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/660346/
[08:12] <bullgard4_> theadmin: I know that it is there. And I have selcted "Germany".
[08:12] <wols> bullgard4_: is there a "Nodeadkeys" one maybe?
[08:12] <theadmin> bullgard4_: Okay, now that is totally odd.
[08:13] <samy3> KE1HA, reboot and when i run sudo apt-get install dkms
[08:13] <samy3> a error ocurs
[08:13] <samy3> :(
[08:13] <theadmin> bullgard4_: Sorry, I just assumed you could've forgotten
[08:13] <bullgard4_> wols: How can I find this out?
[08:14] <wildbat> JZApples: use UUID better but looks ok
[08:14] <wols> bullgard4_: check what gdm offers you for your selection
[08:14] <KE1HA> samy3: ok do this for us: sudo apt-get install dkms | pastebinit   then post that link fer us.
[08:14] <punter> Is there an RSS reader software for Ubuntu that will connect to my Google Reader account?
[08:14] <Generic_Dumbass> so, does anyone actually have a youtube downloader working properly on Ubuntu narwhal?  i'm about to stab myself in the face.
[08:14] <llutz_> bullgard4_: what character do you need, isn't that available in any other (US, FR...) layout?
[08:14] <JZApples> wildbat, I read that I shouldn't use UUID on the software raid array because it might accidentally only mount one of the drives if I do that.  There's technically 4.
[08:15] <samy3> KE1HA, http://pastebin.com/xMVjRE7p
[08:15] <ikonia> JZApples: incorrect
[08:15] <ikonia> JZApples: don't put it in fstab though
[08:15] <bullgard4_> llutz_: The character '@'.
[08:15] <JZApples> The directions here told me to include it.  http://www.howtogeek.com/51873/how-to-setup-software-raid-for-a-simple-file-server-on-ubuntu/
[08:16] <ikonia> JZApples: 1.) you are not using software raid 2.) you already have a raid device
[08:16] <ikonia> JZApples: it's important if you are going to follow guides that they apply to your system
[08:16] <JZApples> ikonia, i have two raid arrays setup.  One software, one hardware.
[08:16] <ikonia> JZApples: so please don't include it in /etc/fstab
[08:16] <gulzar> anybody using e17?
[08:16] <llutz_> bullgard4_: does it work, if you  try US-layout,prssing shift-2? just as a workaround until you fix the real bug
[08:17] <KE1HA> samy3: Ok, i need to look at this fer a minute. Be right back with ya.
[08:17] <ikonia> JZApples: if it an external device you should not include it in /etc/fstab
[08:17] <JZApples> ikonia, software RAID in using SATA ports on my mobo.  Hardware RAID is external enclosure via USB.
[08:17] <samy3> KE1HA,  take your time :)
[08:18] <KE1HA> samy3: how did you originally install Virtualbox ?
[08:18] <wols> KE1HA: do you know what in the logfile referenced in his paste is?
[08:18] <samy3> if i'm right i think i did it with the synaptic
[08:18] <wols> KE1HA: line 29
[08:19] <KE1HA> wols: do I know about it, yes, but I think the porblem is before that, insofaras, Vbox was installed B4 dkms, and that causes the issue.
[08:19] <rokra> urlin2u: sorry I was on call, windows is working
[08:20] <rokra> urlin2u: why do I need to fix windows? I can boot on windows
[08:20] <samy3> KE1HA, now what to do?
[08:20] <cypha> is there a reason webpages look worse in linux than windows?
[08:20] <cmanns> man this makes no sense
[08:21] <KE1HA> samy3: what did you use to install Virtual box originally'?
[08:21] <cmanns> usb optical mouse works and dmesg shows it unplug/plug
[08:21] <wols> rokra: how many windows installations do you actually have btw?
[08:21] <cypha> reading any text in any program is simply worse in linux
[08:21] <samy3> may be in root
[08:21] <cmanns> Yet this USB drive that works on my comptuers, win7, osx, other distro's. dmesg reads nothing if i plug it into all usb ports
[08:21] <urlin2u> rokra, well you could but the files for it were in the incorrect partition at least the boot Bcd, and you have grub in windows now, although you have not run the ubuntu.
[08:21] <rokra> wols: only1
[08:21] <cmanns> Anything I can try or am I fubar'd? I already tried with usb legacy enabled/disable
[08:21] <wols> rokra: the bootinfo script says otherwise
[08:21] <gulzar> enlightenment was unable to import the theme. Are you sure this is really a valid theme
[08:22] <KE1HA> wols: the problem he's seeing is, he can't build the vbox kernel module becasue of two things, one, dkms wasn't installed and two, theres been kernel changes before he did the update/upgrade.
[08:22] <urlin2u> rokra, here is what the line in your script should be  Boot files/dirs:   /bootmgr /Boot/BCD /Windows/System32/winload.exe
[08:22] <rokra> wols: mm I understand why, before I was running win7 on the sata disk ( sdb) , then I bought the ssd disk and I reinstalled the win7 on the ssd disk which the sda.
[08:23] <wols> KE1HA: and you know that why? e.g. what is in the build log exactly?
[08:23] <rokra> wols: maybe there is some old track of the win7 on sdb
[08:23] <urlin2u> rokra, here is yours notice the difference. Boot files:        /Windows/System32/winload.exe /boot/grub/core.img
[08:24] <cypha> how do I know if i'm running alsa for sound?
[08:24] <wols> rokra: last I checked, grub had a device.map, what's in that file?
[08:24] <KE1HA> wols: ok, well if you think Im worng, by all means, plase do assist.
[08:24] <wols> KE1HA: I'm just asking what is in the build log. any way to get at it?
[08:25] <mASOUD_42> cypha : ps aux | grep alsa
[08:25] <rokra> wols: map for tomtom?
[08:25] <cypha> mASOUD_42:  just something about color
[08:25] <bullgard4_> llutz_: My Natty interprets the key combination Alt+2 as "Pos1" (= jump to the first position in a line). --  I have found out another workaround: I can log in as another user.
[08:25] <cypha> --color
[08:25] <rokra> wols:  :D , seriously I don t know
[08:26] <mASOUD_42> cypha so nothing called alsa is running
[08:26] <KE1HA> If he goes and looks at the dir listed, he can cat | pastebinit, but he' need to remove Vbox, install dkms, ensure the new kerneel headers are there and reinstall Vbox.
[08:26] <gulzar> getting this while importing e17 theme.... enlightenment was unable to import the theme. Are you sure this is really a valid theme. How to solve it?
[08:26] <cypha> mASOUD_42: how can I figure out what i'm using for sound?
[08:27] <mASOUD_42> cypha: ps aux|grep sound
[08:27] <cypha> mASOUD_42: still nothing
[08:27] <rokra> urlin2u: If I understand I have 2 boot files
[08:27] <sherorox> how do I copy a file on my desktop using the terminal?
[08:27] <mASOUD_42> cyphia: you have any sound?
[08:28] <mASOUD_42> sherorox:  man cp
[08:28] <KE1HA> samy3: Please see PM
[08:28] <urlin2u> rokra, what we have here is to many irons in the fire helping you, and a misunderstanding on what shold be whre.
[08:28] <cypha> mASOUD_42: actually no
[08:28] <cypha> how do I fix this??
[08:29] <urlin2u> rokra, if you had removed the sdb HD before the grub install W7 would not have booted.
[08:29] <wrtiii> 10.04 LTS Install from USB. Used unetbootin to create install usb. about 3rd step in install I get an error mounting CD-Rom. Tell it to try again and it comes up saying it couldn't want to try again. I say no and install will not proceed.
[08:29] <sherorox> mASOUD_42: cp and then the name of the file?
[08:29] <bullgard4_> wols: "[10:14]	<wols>	bullgard4_: check what gdm offers you for your selection" <--  How can I check that?
[08:30] <wrtiii> Seems it is looking for an installation CD rather than trying to continue install from usb stick?
[08:30] <sherorox> mASOUD_42: where do I specify location
[08:30] <LarsT> Hello!
[08:30] <mASOUD_42> sherorox:  yea  like this : cp fileUWantToCopy   Where
[08:30] <wols> bullgard4_: by pressing the "down" thing in the combobox?
[08:31] <mASOUD_42> sherorox:  like: cp file.zip  /usr/home
[08:31] <cmanns> Anybody know why USB would not output anything in dmesg when usb drive is plugged in/disconnected but other devices do?
[08:31] <sherorox> mASOUD_42: How do I put it on the desktop
[08:31] <mASOUD_42> sherorox:  where is it now?
[08:32] <Generic_Dumbass> Just in case this is being logged, THIS works on Ubuntu 11.04: http://www.chromeextensions.org/other/youtube-downloader-extension/
[08:32] <sherorox> mASOUD_42: on the desktop
[08:32] <Generic_Dumbass> thank god.
[08:32] <mASOUD_42> sherorox: and you want to copy it to where?
[08:32] <sherorox> mASOUD_42: on the desktop
[08:32] <mASOUD_42> O_o
[08:33] <sherorox> mASOUD_42: I don't know how to use the terminal lol. Im trying to learn because I fail at tutorials
[08:33] <sherorox> mASOUD_42: "community documents" is what I meant
[08:34] <theadmin> Generic_Dumbass: This channel IS logged.
[08:34] <mASOUD_42> sherorox:  ok you need to know where the file is and where you want it to be  .then       cp whereisitnow  whereyouwant
[08:35] <sherorox> mASOUD_42: how do I say its on the desktop
[08:35] <bullgard4_> wols: "Do you mean the third column of gdm? My gdm offers a menu with the following items: Recovery Console, Ubuntu, Ubuntu Classic, Ubuntu Classic (No effects), Ubuntu (Safe Mode), and User Defined Session.
[08:35] <mASOUD_42> sherorox:  Desktop:  ~/Desktop
[08:35] <wols> bullgard4_: I mean the slection where you choose keyboard layouts. not your choice of DE...
[08:36] <cypha> i'm getting no sound
[08:36] <cypha> can someone help?
[08:36] <mASOUD_42> sherorox:  while ~ is same as /home/USERNAME
[08:37] <cypha> how can I solve this problem from the command line
[08:37] <urlin2u> rokra, when you installed grub you put it in sda1 when it should have been sda5, and in the W7 install the boot Bcd were put in sdb1 instead of sda1.
[08:37] <cypha> ?
[08:37] <wols> urlin2u: he didn't put it in sda1 at all
[08:38] <sherorox> mASOUD_42: It won't let me make a copy of it. It says its the same file. Is there a way for me to change its name?
[08:38] <urlin2u> wols, from their boot script /Windows/System32/winload.exe /boot/grub/core.img
[08:38] <Kiwini> hey all, I tried out file sharing on my two machines, one was actually just a live usb to test, and now I can't get rid of the Ubuntu listing in my network, any ideas?
[08:38] <mASOUD_42> cypha : try sudo apt-get install indicator-sound
[08:39] <cypha> mASOUD_42: I'm running openbox, btw
[08:39] <cypha> not gnome
[08:39] <urlin2u> wols, ubuntu hasn't booted the grub image can be removed in several way but that is sda1
[08:39] <wols> urlin2u: it actually doesn't matter (much) where stage1 is
[08:39] <wols> urlin2u: his main problem is that for BIOS, his sdb seems to be harddisk 0x80
[08:39] <mASOUD_42> cypha : srry i dont even know what is open box
[08:40] <cypha> mASOUD_42: it didn't install anything
[08:40] <cypha> i think i already had that package
[08:40] <urlin2u> wols, correct but it helps to hce the boot bcd in the correct partition, otherwise it may be troublesome if sdb hd is removed as sdb1 is where they are.
[08:40] <rokra> urlin2u: wols to be honest , I m lost  in your conversation :p
[08:41] <bullgard4_> wols: As a keyboard my gdm allows me to select either »Gemany«, »USA« or »Other...«. When pressing »Other...«, another menu appears showing a large list of items. Even for Germany it allows me to selct 15 different items. For example »Germany without accent keys«. --  Which one should I try?
[08:41] <wols> cypha: lsmod | grep ^snd  if you see several modules, you run alsa
[08:41] <cypha> yes i do
[08:41] <cypha> wols
[08:42] <cypha> basically, openbox prevents anything from running at startup
[08:42] <cypha> so I need to know how to manually start alsa i think
[08:42] <wols> bullgard4_: any not sure. ubuntu's naming is too "friendly" and not really standard for me
[08:42] <rokra> urlin2u: wols concerning sdb , indeed it seems to be the boot disk and it s not fine  because it s only for storage, so is it possible to move the boot on the sda?
[08:42] <wols> cypha: it's already started. it's a kernel module...
[08:42] <cmanns> I also did lsusb and it doesn't show there either
[08:42] <wols> cypha: run alsamixer and see if your channels are unmuted
[08:43] <urlin2u> rokra, yes I posted a link to the commands from a W7 disc.
[08:43] <wols> cmanns: you sure the hardware is actually working? not a dead usb stick?
[08:43] <wols> urlin2u: changing boot order is done in BIOS only
[08:43] <cmanns> As said way up in the back log it works on almost a dozen different OS's
[08:43] <vindolin> someone else here with Intel 4965 wireless? my connection keeps crashing.. i have to reboot to get it working again :( dmesg -> http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/401992/
[08:43] <vindolin> ^ 11.04
[08:43] <cmanns> Thus I'm kinda confused why dmesg doesn't say when it's unplugged but it tells me when a mouse is, I read on ubuntu forums oddly formatted usb drives can fail automount?
[08:44] <cmanns> Wont they still spit out debug info in dmesg?
[08:44] <ugly> Any one know y ddi would tell me the image is too big when trying to copy a hd image to a file stored on an external 1gb? It only copies 4.3gb of the drive
[08:44] <wols> cmanns: kernel has nothing to do with automount or formatting
[08:44] <cypha> wols, yes they are
[08:44] <wols> ugly: your external drive is FAT formatted. that filesytem doesn't allow big files
[08:44] <cmanns> wols, I didn't say kernel, I said oddly formatted usb drives.
[08:45] <wols> cmanns: and I said the kernel doesn't care about formatting
[08:45] <cypha> wols, when I switched from kde to openbox, it worked fine, because whatever apps were already started in kde, stayed running when i changed to openbox
[08:45] <urlin2u> wols, why don't you take car of this as it has become rather ridiculous. ;)
[08:45] <cmanns> ah ok
[08:45] <cypha> however, ever since I restarted into openbox, sound hasn't worked
[08:45] <cmanns> Then what would cause this or any potential tips to fix it? All topics on ubuntu forums are saying ur stick is dead or formatted odd...
[08:45] <cypha> basically, because openbox doesn't inherit the autostart settings that were in kde
[08:46] <ugly> Crap you are right I didn't think about that... Anyway to defeat that without reformating the drive?
[08:46] <rokra> urlin2u: I m going to follow your instructions
[08:46] <wols> cmanns: "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" or any other wav file
[08:47] <urlin2u> wols, when they posted move the boot to sda1, I assume they mean the boot bcd.
[08:47] <wols> ugly: either split the file or reformat the drive
[08:48] <rokra> urlin2u: I m going to start the win7 cd to repair
[08:48] <rokra> urlin2u: cy
[08:48] <wols> ugly: from what I see he has grub on sda and the windows MBR on sdb. but he never sees a grub menu or error message but straight boots into windows. that means I think, the BIOS is set to boot from sdb first. the only way to fix this properly is to go into BIOS and use the SSD to boot first and be hdd 0x80
[08:48] <wols> urlin2u: ^^
[08:48] <bobbyhays> #go-nuts
[08:49] <theadmin> cmanns: Another quick way to test sound that will work without a .wav file: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[08:49] <cmanns> wols, huh?
[08:49] <urlin2u> wols, hey personally like you we just want them fixed.;)
[08:49] <cmanns> I'm not trying to test sound, I'm the guy who's working usb stick wont read or output to lsusb/fdisk -l /dmesg
[08:49] <sherorox> mASOUD_42: the command mkdir. How do I specify where I want to create the directory
[08:50] <wols> cmanns: you and cypha start both with c. not enough letters typed for autocomplete. have you tried a reboot? maybe your kernel got confused by your switching around the usb devices? but that's a WAG
[08:50] <Kiwini> Anyone available to possibly help me with some smb troubles? I can't seem to remove a computer from the network list that no longer shares.
[08:50] <wols> theadmin: *groan*
[08:50] <wrtiii> Ok, So 10.04 LTS Install - I get the error: [!] Load Installer Components from CD -- There was a problem reading data from the CD-ROM. Please make sure it is in the drive. If retrying does not work, you should check the integrity of your CD-ROM. -- Failed to copy file from CD-ROM. Retry?     retrying does nothing, selecting NO gives an installation failure.  I have tried editing the boot line
[08:50] <wrtiii> and adding cdrom-detect/try-usb=true  after the ***.seed and before the quiet argument.  Could use some help with this please I am not finding much else for results on google :(
[08:50] <r12k4rd0> hello guys I need help about gnome sharing with the application gnome-file-share-properties of Gnome.
[08:51] <cmanns> It's cool wols not nagging I always appriciate y'alls help :)
[08:51] <r12k4rd0> Is there anyone can help me?
[08:51] <mASOUD_42> sherorox:  simply put it in front of mkdir    like : mkdir ~/Desktop/testdir
[08:51] <cmanns> I've tried reboots, usb legacy on/off, and a few other things too. It never outputs to dmesg yet an usb mouse will, tried all 3 usb ports, etc
[08:51] <ugly> So I can use  Dd to split the image then during restore use dd if=image{1-x} of=/dev/hda1 conv=noerror, sync bs=4k to restore
[08:51] <cmanns> Working on blacklisting uneeded kos
[08:52] <mASOUD_42> cmanns:  test the usb stick on some other pc .see if it's actually working
[08:53] <wols> ugly: man split
[08:53] <ugly> So I can use  Dd to split the image then during restore use dd if=image{1-x} of=/dev/hda1 conv=noerror, sync bs=4k to restore?
[08:53] <cmanns> I have, I used another computer to put the data I need to grub boot on the USB :-)
[08:53] <cmanns> it's readable/works fine
[08:53] <wols> cmanns: does it work with the ubuntu live cd?
[08:53] <ugly> Ok ill Google too
[08:53] <ugly> Thanx
[08:53] <cmanns> wols, what you mean?
[08:54] <wols> cmanns: boot from the ubuntu live cd, plug it in. does the kernel recognize it in any way then?
[08:54] <cmanns> wols, I'm the guy who came for days about PXE...
[08:54] <wols> cmanns: or maybe can you plug it in and then paste dmesg | tail ?
[08:54] <cmanns> I'll try the net installer from PXE in a bit when I reboot os's on this pc
[08:55] <cmanns> Sure but there is absolutely no info about it in dmesg at all (I've sysadmin'd linux for over 6 years) I've seen this once before but this isn't one of those Sandisk's that fail on lots of OS's thus I came to you guys incase theres boot options to fix usb
[08:56] <sherorox> mASOUD_42: whats the point of rmdir if rm -r deletes occupied and empty directories?
[08:57] <lotuspsychje> anyone knows a logo desginer package for ubuntu?
[08:57] <cmanns> sherorox, -r is recrusive
[08:57] <cmanns> Try man rm :-)
[08:57] <wols> cmanns: if it works everywhere else but never on this PC, then it's a hardware problem
[08:57] <cmanns> Yes I'm sure it is (This laptop is fubar'd with ubuntu)
[08:57] <Ascavasaion> the past few times I started my Ubuntu machine the volume control has disappeared off the top bar.  any ideas how to get it back?
[08:57] <wols> cmanns: unless you can show us another linux distro running on this PC where it does work. only then it is a ubuntu kernel problem
[08:57] <sherorox> cmanns: whats does recursive do?
[08:58] <cmanns> so I was mostly interested in any boot options or something to potentially fix usb
[08:58] <cmanns> sherorox, please learn2google
[08:58] <wols> cmanns: there are no magical "fix" things
[08:58] <cmanns> Sometimes :-(
[08:58] <sherorox> cmanns: I did im on ubuntus help page right now. But its too hard for me to understand. im only 12
[08:59] <cmanns> :|
[08:59] <cmanns> Since when they let 12 year olds on irc
[08:59] <sherorox> ...
[08:59] <Ascavasaion> aaaah, I figured it out... added Indicator Applet.
[08:59] <cmanns> sherorox, http://www.linuxnewbieguide.org/
[09:00] <mASOUD_42> sherorox:  its seems that rmdir only deletes empty dirs. but rm does delete non empty ones too
[09:00] <cmanns> Anyways rm is remove, what does recrusive mean? Well if you don't know that I'm not your school teacher but it will keep going
[09:00] <Lasers> !recursive
[09:00] <cmanns> rmdir only removes dir's, like rm -rf / would delete everything under / it could
[09:00] <astraljava> cmanns: Please, mind your manners. No age-discrimation here, thank you.
[09:01]  * cmanns lol's on a time long ago he got an OS X user to do rm -rf /some-important-osx-dir due to him not reading about unix and it's commands
[09:01] <cmanns> I'm not discriminating but my parents didn't let me on the internet, and I know other parents who don't still today.
[09:02] <astraljava> It's still someone else's call to make, not ours.
[09:02] <rokra> urlin2u: back
[09:02] <rokra> urlin2u: now I have bootmgr is missing at boot
[09:02] <rokra> urlin2u: looking to download the bootinfscript
[09:02] <cmanns> of course astraljava - twas just speaking an opinion not agecisting. I'd never harrass a child :P
[09:03] <flo>  hello, I've just typed for about half an our into a contact form on the web. when I submitted, the website said: "session expired, please reconnect". so now all what I typed is lost. Or is there a way to find what I typed somewhere, maybe in the cache?
[09:03] <wols> flo: you might be able to press the "back" button in your browser.
[09:03] <urlin2u> rokra, correct W7 boots on it's own right?
[09:04] <astraljava> cmanns: Good. Just we gotta be careful with our wordings, that's all. Thanks for understanding! :)
[09:04] <flo> wols, yeah, I've tried that but it didn't work. I got back to the homepage.
[09:04] <cmanns> np :)
[09:04] <rokra> urlin2u: http://pastebin.com/8RG9z9Mc
[09:04] <mASOUD_42> sherorox: http://linuxcommand.org/lts0050.php
[09:04] <phnom> sherorox: Maybe this will make it clearer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rmdir
[09:04] <rokra> urlin2u: nothing boot now
[09:04] <rokra> urlin2u: no win7 , no ubuntu , only live cd
[09:05] <cypha> wols, yeah the mixer was muted =/
[09:05] <urlin2u> rokra, you have grub in the sda1 you can remove it from the live natty cd, open W7 and go to the boot section and remove anything called grub.
[09:06] <cypha> i gotta figure out which system tray volume controller i like best now
[09:06] <rokra> urlin2u: what is open W7?
[09:07] <urlin2u> rokra, if you open home on the live natty cd in the left panel is the W& partiton click it to open it go to boot and remove grub.
[09:07] <urlin2u> W7
[09:08] <cypha> wols: where would you keep the application files for a system tray volume controller?
[09:08] <Machtin> hi there! Any idea why it might be that I can use s/pdif in vlc, but my browsers won't play sound?
[09:09] <rokra> urlin2u: sorry I don t get it , I m on the live CD , I need to open /dev/sda1 which is my win7 partition?
[09:09] <urlin2u> rokra, when you open W7 you will see this open the boot file and look for a grub file.  http://imagebin.org/166779
[09:10] <rokra> urlin2u: yes right
[09:10] <urlin2u> rokra, yes you have grub in the sda1 it should not be there.
[09:10] <bullgard4_> Natty reports: "System program problem detected." What package can I associate this bug to when reporting to Launchpad?
[09:10] <rokra> urlin2u: so I have to delete the grub folder ?
[09:11] <rokra> urlin2u: I have to delete the /boot/grub folder in the win7 partition?
[09:11] <urlin2u> rokra, I'm assuming here that you ran the commands I posted the boot bcd is now in the correct place, also open gparted and remove the boot flag from sdb1
[09:11] <urlin2u> rokra, yes, anything grub in windows is poison.
[09:12] <rokra> urlin2u: yes I ran the previous command from the w7 cd, bootrec...
[09:12] <smokleycastle> Hi I got this error when trying to update ubuntu: http://pastebin.com/4dhUeuka
[09:12] <urlin2u> rokra, all 4 commands?
[09:12] <rokra> urlin2u: I can remove the /boot folder as well? ( Yes the 4 commands
[09:13] <urlin2u> rokra, only remove grub marked stuff .
[09:13] <rokra> urlin2u: I did the fixmbr, fixboot, scanos , rebuildbcd
[09:13] <ugly> Awesome so now I could cat /image.gz* ¦ V
[09:13] <rokra> urlin2u: ok done
[09:13] <netking> How do I install scrot from bash ?
[09:13] <urlin2u> rokra, run the script again.
[09:13] <mASOUD_42> netking: sudo apt-get install scrot
[09:14] <rokra> urlin2u: 2s I removing the boot flag on sdb
[09:14] <smokleycastle> Hi I got this error when trying to update ubuntu: http://pastebin.com/4dhUeuka anyone have any ideas?
[09:14] <urlin2u> rokra, cool that is a not needed flag.
[09:14] <theadmin> smokleycastle: It appears to me that Ubuntu developers messed something up
[09:14] <netking> install: missing destination file operand after `scrot'
[09:15] <urlin2u> rokra, run the script again so we can see that grub is completely gone.
[09:15] <theadmin> smokleycastle: Report a bug with "ubuntu-bug update-manager" and wait for them to fix it (as if)
[09:15] <urlin2u> from W7
[09:15] <smokleycastle> theadmin I thought ubuntu had a vibrant developer community?
[09:15] <rokra> urlin2u: http://pastebin.com/xq1HvMsY
[09:15] <ugly> Now I can use cat /image.gz* ¦ gzip -dc ¦ dd of=/dev/hda1 conv=noerror, sync bs=4k when I want to restore
[09:15] <wols> netking: what command did you run exactly?
[09:15] <theadmin> smokleycastle: Honestly, they're very lazy and detached
[09:16] <llutz_> ugly: use zcat, no gzip needed
[09:16] <smokleycastle> theadmin which is the best release of debian to ensure a good service?
[09:17] <wols> smokleycastle: you are in the wrong channel for debian...
[09:17] <theadmin> smokleycastle: I sent you a pm.
[09:17] <jpds> theadmin, smokleycastle: Already done: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debconf/+bug/442941
[09:18] <jpds> theadmin: Who's lazy now?
[09:18] <theadmin> jpds: There's a ton of unfixed bugs I bet :P
[09:18] <urlin2u> rokra, so  still see grub there and you are missing this as well in windows 7,  /bootmgr
[09:19] <smokleycastle> what is a good release of linux for a newbie?
[09:19] <astraljava> theadmin: #ubuntu-bugs when you're willing to help out with those
[09:19] <theadmin> smokleycastle: Please switch to PM
[09:19] <theadmin> astraljava: Help Ubuntu? Do I look THAT crazy?
[09:19] <jpds> theadmin: That's true for every software package.
[09:19] <urlin2u> rokra, do you have the commands I posted saved so you can copy and paste them from the W7 command line on the booted disc.
[09:19] <rokra> urlin2u: mistake the new one is posted here http://pastebin.com/yyt5Es5k
[09:19] <smokleycastle> theadmin i am using bitchx via an ssh connection from a centos vps through bash, I dont know how to switch to pm
[09:20] <rokra> urlin2u: which commands?
[09:20] <astraljava> smokleycastle: Meant to /msg theadmin <message_to_theadmin> but yeah, take it out of here, irrelevant.
[09:21] <urlin2u> rokra, well grub is gone the /bootmgr is missing though, if it was me I would boot the W7 disc again run the 4 commands and it should boot straight to W7 then,
[09:21] <urlin2u> rokra, if that happens we will install grub and call it a day.
[09:21] <rokra> urlin2u: so I going back to the win7 cd
[09:22] <astraljava> smokleycastle: I'd start with the LTS release, which would be 10.04 at this time.
[09:22] <rokra> urlin2u: cy in 10m
[09:22] <urlin2u> rokra, personally I would I would want evcerything in iy=ts place.
[09:22] <wrtiii> I have installed 2 x 160 GB Sata Drives in my server. My intention is to use clonezilla to create an image of the primary drive on the second drive once I have my installation stable but before I attempt anything new.  Is clonezilla the best route for this?  Is there a way to have the drive in the system at all times but have linux not recognize/mount? it as to ensure there is noway that disk
[09:22] <wrtiii> could get corrupted but still have it easily accesible when I boot to clonezilla for either restoring or saving an image?
[09:22] <astraljava> smokleycastle: Then when the need arises (missing drivers for some peripherals or whatever), you could upgrade/install a newer release.
[09:23] <Machtin> Any idea why it might be that I can use toslink in vlc, but my browsers won't play sound in flash and html5 (guess in everything else that has sound, too)?
[09:23] <sudokill> wrtiii, clonezilla is good yes
[09:23] <sudokill> wrtiii, it checks that the image is restorable and has always been good for me
[09:24] <jp_Hranice> I need help. I have posible bug. During installing I can't fill My name, Computer name, Password, ...
[09:24] <wrtiii> sudokill: thanks, just keep thinking that ubuntu might have it's own app for this sort of thing or somethin, lol
[09:24] <theadmin> jp_Hranice: Can't fill? Are they greyed out? Or just can't type?
[09:25] <sudokill> wrtiii, i havent tried any others except acronis. i think for pure imaging clonezilla is very good
[09:25] <rokra> urlin2u: I started the laptop to stay online
[09:26] <wrtiii> Now I just gotta find another usb to configure for it ;)
[09:26] <jp_Hranice> theadmin: It§ filled by gray signs for fill and i cant place cursor there.
[09:27] <sudokill> jp_Hranice, maybe the livecd hasnt finished loading, try rebooting if it hangs
[09:27] <sudokill> and try again
[09:27] <urlin2u> rokra, good idea I think you are about set the commands should set the W7 correct, and if it boots staright in I will give you the commands for seting up grub.
[09:27] <sudokill> sometimes it can just bug up like that
[09:27] <theadmin> sudokill's right, jp_Hranice, this does happen from time to time, do try a reboot
[09:27] <rokra> urlin2u: wait win7 boot cd is slow
[09:27] <jp_Hranice> theadmin: It's during installing alfa 3
[09:27] <urlin2u> rokra, the commnds for grub from the natty cd booted after you get windows 7 to boot.
[09:28] <theadmin> jp_Hranice: Alpha? Do you mean you're messing with Ubuntu 11.10?
[09:28] <sudokill> jp_Hranice, oh if its alpha maybe it is a bug
[09:28] <urlin2u> rokra, is it a recovery, usually it is a dvd?
[09:28] <theadmin> jp_Hranice: If that's true for you, do visit #ubuntu+1
[09:28] <ugly> llutz: that makes sense. zcat /image.gz* ¦ dd of=/dev/hda1
[09:28] <rokra> urlin2u: dvd installation in monde repair
[09:28] <bullgard4_> Natty reports: "System program problem detected." What package can I associate this bug to when reporting to Launchpad?
[09:28] <jp_Hranice> theadmin:  OK, thanks
[09:28] <llutz_> ugly: zcat image >/dev/hda1
[09:28] <rokra> urlin2u: ok it is searching for error
[09:29] <urlin2u> rokra, sometimes it will run a autofix.
[09:29] <rokra> urlin2u: automatically it detected a problem with the windows boot manager
[09:29] <rokra> urlin2u: I applied this thing or it s better to go by cmd and type your 4 commands?
[09:29] <urlin2u> rokra, it may fix it, with grub in there before it wouldn't runn probably.
[09:30] <theadmin> bullgard4_: Likely related to gnome, I *think*, if it reports it via a GUI
[09:30] <trijntje> Hi all, I'm stuck with unmet dependencies so I cant install or remove anything. I've already tried sudo apt-get install -f and sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a, with no effect. What else can I do to get this sorted out?
[09:30] <rokra> urlin2u: I did fix it auto
[09:30] <rokra> urlin2u: ok bootmgr is missing
[09:30] <urlin2u> rokra, if it is not a auto repair go to the command line and run the commands the autorepair can take forever and is suggested to be run 3 times.
[09:31] <ugly> Tnx lluz
[09:31] <theadmin> trijntje: If you have aptitude installed, try using that
[09:31] <urlin2u> rokra, did it notice the missing part?
[09:31] <theadmin> trijntje: It reports problems in a very descriptive way
[09:31] <rokra> urlin2u: yes it notice a problem with the windows boot mlanager
[09:32] <ugly> It is multiple files will zcat still work by combing all of them?
[09:32] <urlin2u> rokra,yo can reboot and se if it works, if not just reboot and run the commands your choice really.
[09:32] <ugly> In order?
[09:32] <trijntje> theadmin: I have aptitude installed, running it now
[09:33] <rokra> urlin2u: it is not working , i have again the bootmgr is missing at boot
[09:33] <JZApples> Anyone have any ideas for this error?  I get it when trying to send an email via mdadm.      sendmail: fatal: open /etc/postfix/main.cf: No such file or directory
[09:33] <bullgard4_> theadmin: The package "gnome" is not installed. So I shluld not reference it.
[09:34] <urlin2u> rokra, boot the W7 disc and run the 4 commands that should fix it.
[09:34] <llutz_> JZApples: sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix
[09:34] <theadmin> bullgard4_: What about "ubuntu-desktop"?
[09:34] <rokra> urlin2u: this is booting on the win7 cd
[09:35] <urlin2u> rokra, correct here is the link again just to be sure http://paste.ubuntu.com/660344/
[09:35] <bullgard4_> theadmin: Ubuntu does not provide a package "ubuntu-desktop".
[09:35] <trijntje> theadmin: this is the output aptitude gives: http://paste.ubuntu.com/660374/
[09:35] <LarsT> it does
[09:35] <rokra> urlin2u: thanks but I got it :p
[09:36] <bullgard4_> !prefix | LarsT
[09:36] <gedO> Hello. I'm trying to run Mass Effect on Ubuntu 10.10. Where I can get help for this????
[09:36] <urlin2u> rokra, figured you did, but just wanted to make sure.;)
[09:36] <theadmin> gedO: In #winehq and at http://winehq.org
[09:36] <gedO> Is there any wine chanel?
[09:36] <samy3> <3 ya ke1ha
[09:36] <JZApples> Can I use postfix with my hotmail account?
[09:36] <ikonia> JZApples: in what way ?
[09:36] <gedO> theadmin: Thank you
[09:36] <LarsT> I want to change from Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit to Canonical Ubuntu 11.10 Alpha 3. Is it usuable or better to take 9.04 ?
[09:36] <rokra> urlin2u: ready to go
[09:37] <JZApples> ikonia, just to send an email if mdadm reports an error.
[09:37] <rokra> urlin2u: so first succesfully
[09:37] <ikonia> JZApples: that's nothing to do with hotmail
[09:37] <theadmin> trijntje: Huh... wow, this is a mess, I can't make sense of it :(
[09:37] <theadmin> trijntje: Ask someone with a better APT knowledge I guess, sorry.
[09:38] <JZApples> ikonia, can i use it to send my hotmail account an email?  how do i configure it for that?
[09:38] <rokra> urlin2u: the first time the scanos show me total identified installation : 1
[09:38] <rokra> urlin2u: now I have 0
[09:38] <ikonia> JZApples: postfix is just an mta - you need a client to send the mail
[09:38] <llutz_> JZApples: just use a nullmailer, msmtp or ssmtp for that task, much easier than postfix
[09:39] <JZApples> and i can do that with mdadm?
[09:39] <llutz_> JZApples: i don't know how mdadm sends mails, but it should work
[09:39] <urlin2u> rokra, are you sure you removed the bootflag from sdb1 not sda1
[09:40] <wols> trijntje: apt-cache policy libjack0   and apt-cache policy libjack-jackd2
[09:40]  * theadmin doesn't even know what a mdadm is
[09:40] <wols> theadmin: raid configuration utility
[09:40] <trijntje> theadmin: no problem, thanks for your time
[09:40] <theadmin> wols: ...Okay, how on Earth can *that* be related to sending mail?
[09:41] <llutz_> theadmin: i guess it sends notifications on errors etc like crond
[09:41] <rokra> urlin2u: yes sure
[09:41] <theadmin> llutz_: Ah, would make sense
[09:41] <ikonia> JZApples: mdadm uses the mail command to send mail
[09:41] <rokra> urlin2u: should be in the pastebin I did
[09:41] <rokra> urlin2u: I have not that link because I changed irssi
[09:41] <rokra> rokra: but you still have this link
[09:41] <JZApples> ikonia, so how do i configure that?
[09:42] <ikonia> JZApples: mail is just the client, you need to configure an mta such as postfix, or a remote smtp relay (such as your ISP's)
[09:42] <urlin2u> rokra, the W7 showed up I'm not sure of a 1 or 0 there.  The last pastebin shows a bootflag on sda1 and sdb1 you did the removal after the pastebin I believe
[09:43] <trijntje> wols: http://paste.ubuntu.com/660376/
[09:43] <wols> trijntje: you installed libjack-jackd2 from some 3rd party repo or ppa which is not available anymore. remove it
[09:44] <wols> trijntje: the problem happened since you mixed repos
[09:44] <urlin2u> rokra,  guess since you have the W7 n=bootloader in the sdb hd and the sda hd you want to make sure you running the commands on the sda1 in sda
[09:46] <trijntje> wols: yeah, i'm running bodhi linux, which uses the natty repo, plus some modifications I think
[09:46] <wols> !bodhi
[09:46] <theadmin> trijntje: Unfortunately, we can't support derivs
[09:47] <theadmin> !derivatives | trijntje
[09:47] <trijntje> theadmin, wols: I know, I was just hoping there would be some apt or dpkg magick known to get me out of this mess
[09:47] <trijntje> and since #ubuntu is a really big channel, I thought I'd try it here
[09:47] <rokra> urlin2u: yyyyess , one thing done
[09:47] <rokra> urlin2u: windows 7 is back
[09:48] <theadmin> trijntje: Unfortunately the channel policy does not allow us to support derivs
[09:48] <rokra> urlin2u: I m able to boot on it , I restart the ubuntu live cd now
[09:48] <astraljava> trijntje: You need to remove libjack-jackd2, so that libjack0 can be installed. That's all we can do for the matter here.
[09:49] <mega1_> How do I get ubuntu server 10.04 to format unpartctioned HD space
[09:49] <theadmin> mega1_: Use fdisk or cfdisk.
[09:49] <urlin2u> rokra, yipee, yah boot the natty and run sudo fdisk -lu and post that in a pastbin and I will give you the commands to reload grub
[09:49] <wols> mega1_: first you put that space into a partition. then you create a filesystem on that
[09:50] <trijntje> theadmin, wols: I understand. Thanks a lot for you time, I will try the bodhi forum if I cant work it out
[09:50] <kamenka> всем привет
[09:50] <IdleOne> !ru
[09:51] <theadmin> Wow, now this message makes no sense xD
[09:51] <adewisman> need help can install natty because apic setting in my toshiba satellite A50 is disable but I don't know how to enable it, always get I/O error each time I try to Install natty anyone has an Idea please ?
[09:51] <adewisman> *cant
[09:51] <theadmin> It says, literally, "Please visit /join #ubuntu-ru to receive help in Russian"
[09:51] <wrtiii> wols: Still awake?
[09:51] <adewisman> !register
[09:51] <theadmin> IdleOne: Can you remove that /join out of the latinization of the !ru factoid? It's senseless :D
[09:51] <urlin2u> theadmin, you would know. ;)
[09:52] <wols> wrtiii: it's noon...
[09:52] <IdleOne> theadmin: I agree it is senseless but it follows our factoid syntax for !LoCo channels. We give them the full command to join a channel because many new users don't know it.
[09:52] <theadmin> urlin2u: Yes, I would, I'm Russian
[09:53] <theadmin> IdleOne: Then, replace "posetite" (visit) with "naberite" (type)
[09:53] <wols> adewisman: noapic  as boot parameter?
[09:53] <rokra> urlin2u: http://pastebin.com/ucEHVsRw
[09:53] <urlin2u> theadmin, I figured as such or at least spoke it.
[09:53] <IdleOne> theadmin: Please submit a edit /msg ubottu !ru is <reply> blah blah...
[09:53] <adewisman> wols: checklist it ?
[09:54] <urlin2u> rokra, first command    sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt
[09:54] <theadmin> IdleOne: Roger.
[09:54] <JZApples> Now I get this error:  sh: /usr/sbin/sendmail: not found
[09:55] <urlin2u> rokra, let me know when run I will give you te second
[09:55] <rokra> urlin2u: ready
[09:55] <urlin2u> rokra, did you run the first command I just posted
[09:55] <rokra> urlin2u: yes
[09:55] <raj> Hello friends, I am having some trouble in installing LAMP. Cant install apach2 because of dependency... any help please
[09:55] <urlin2u> rokra now this one  sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/boot /dev/sda
[09:56] <ugly> Can't sleep... Gonna tripple boot winblows, ubuntu, macosx
[09:56] <rokra> urlin2u: done
[09:56] <urlin2u> rokra, now rebot after second command you should see the grub menu then
[09:56] <rokra> urlin2u: ok I reboot cy
[09:56] <theadmin> IdleOne: Actually, never mind, I currently have encoding problems and therefore cannot type Russian characters (neither read, but I can see the latinization anyhow...)
[09:56] <urlin2u> rokra, reboot to the grub menu and boot into ubuntu
[09:57] <IdleOne> theadmin: no problem, whenever you can do it it would be appreciated.
[09:57] <theadmin> IdleOne: If you can tell me how to configure PuTTY to properly use Unicode, then sure.
[09:57] <raj> http://paste.ubuntu.com/660382/ Here is the log of my Apache2 instalation dependency... Any help will be great
[09:57] <IdleOne> theadmin: no clue sorry
[09:58] <llutz_> theadmin: putty -  translation - UTF8
[09:58] <theadmin> llutz_: Tried that already, still receive stuff like "\u1203" from ubottu
[10:00] <theadmin> llutz_: Oh, wait, it's UTF8, not "UTF-8"?
[10:00] <raj> register roopa
[10:01] <llutz_> theadmin: UTF-8  is correct
[10:01] <theadmin> llutz_: Hm...
[10:01] <adewisman> wols: already tried to boot with noapic, after the boot screen appeared, it  went blank, its so frustrating, I tried to Install jaunty and it works flawlessly
[10:01] <astraljava> raj: Could you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list, please?
[10:01] <wols> adewisman: nomodeset  as well then
[10:01] <rokra> urlin2u: yess it worked
[10:02] <wols> adewisman: or alternate installer
[10:02] <theadmin> éöóêåí - Does this look Russian to anyone, now?
[10:02] <urlin2u> rokra, good deal now in ubuntu run sudo update-grub     you should see W7 in the menu list.
[10:02] <wols> theadmin: no
[10:02] <szal> theadmin: no
[10:02] <wols> theadmin: irssi?
[10:02] <theadmin> wols: Yeah...
[10:03] <theadmin> wols: The Windows package provided on irssi.org specifically
[10:03] <theadmin> wols: It uses PuTTY in some way
[10:03] <adewisman> wols: already doing alternate install, just curious why cant I install a fresh natty instead wierd stuff
[10:03] <wols> theadmin: no. uses cygwin
[10:03] <theadmin> wols: Meh, the window title is "Cygterm - PuTTY", and settings are same as PuTTY's.
[10:03] <raj> @astralijava:http://paste.ubuntu.com/660384/
[10:03] <krazykrivda> i'm having issues mounting: /dev/sda5 on /mnt/FILES type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=100,umask=000)   but i cannot modify files there even as root
[10:03] <szal> "!ru is <reply>Пожалуйста наберите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke." <- theadmin: if you can read the Cyrillic here, would that be correct?
[10:04] <urlin2u> rokra, if you have any questions on all of this feel free to ask.
[10:04] <rokra> urlin2u: thanks man
[10:04] <rokra> urlin2u: I have a question
[10:04] <urlin2u> rokra, no problem .
[10:04] <theadmin> szal: Unfortunately, still looks like \u041f\u043e...
[10:04] <theadmin> szal: Could you pastebin it?
[10:04] <urlin2u> rokra, go for it.
[10:04] <rokra> urlin2u: lol can I clean the win7 on /dev/sdb1
[10:04] <szal> theadmin: yes, one sec
[10:04] <rokra> urlin2u: update-grub found 2 win7
[10:04] <elky> theadmin and others wishing to discuss this factoid, please go to #ubuntu-irc to do it so that support can continue unhindered here.
[10:05] <urlin2u> rokra, you mean the mbr?
[10:05] <rokra> urlin2u: 1 on sda1 and one on sdb1
[10:05] <rokra> urlin2u: yes
[10:05] <szal> theadmin: http://www.privatepaste.com/45503f864f
[10:05] <theadmin> szal: Let's do that.
[10:05] <astraljava> raj: I'm not sure, but those 4 last lines seem to duplicate repository entries, you already have in. mirror for those. Could you comment them out, run `sudo apt-get update`, then try again?
[10:05] <raj> @astralijava: http://paste.ubuntu.com/660384/
[10:05] <urlin2u> rokra, in the sdb1 partition are some file like the boot mgr boo bcd remove them.
[10:06] <rokra> urlin2u: indeed I have Boot files:        /bootmgr /Boot/BCD on /dev/sdb1 , how can i remove that
[10:06] <urlin2u> rokra, wiping the mbr is risky I think it is just the files there.
[10:06] <urlin2u> rokra, should be a right click in ubuntu and delete.
[10:07] <rokra> urlin2u: ok searching the folder
[10:07] <rokra> urlin2u: thanks
[10:07] <urlin2u> rokra, ubuntu will remove anything just right click the files and delete then run the update-grub again
[10:08] <vincentvdBergh> test message
[10:08] <rokra> urlin2u: yes it workied properly
[10:08] <rokra> urlin2u: thanks
[10:08] <oCean> vincentvdBergh: we can read you
[10:08] <urlin2u> rokra, good deal the update grub just shows the sda1 now.
[10:09] <rokra> urlin2u: yes
[10:09] <vincentvdBergh> ok thanks I needed to test my new network I just set up
[10:09] <kaballasx> ??admin > kaballasx
[10:09] <adewisman> !upgrade > adewisman
[10:09] <oCean> vincentvdBergh: for further testing purposes please use #test channel
[10:10] <urlin2u> rokra, I think your set, if you ever need to reload the windows n==boot to the mbr again the bootrec.exe /fixmbr is all that is needed. we rab=n the extras to get everything in place.
[10:10] <rokra> urlin2u: thanks for your advice ,it was nice :) ,  I have to restart to install the nvidia driver
[10:10] <urlin2u> rokra, darn netbook keyboard
[10:11] <theadmin> urlin2u: lol I can feel that
[10:11] <theadmin> urlin2u: Even my phone is more comfortable than a netbook keyboard
[10:11] <urlin2u> rokra. no problem glad we got it running.
[10:11] <ikonia> Jared5552: you're not using sendmail
[10:16] <rokra> urlin2u: cool with nvidia it s better :)
[10:17] <urlin2u> rokra, awesome I'm going to crash now see you later.
[10:17] <rokra> urlin2u: bye
[10:21] <mr_daniel> I have a remote server, where I usually modify files with vi or nano. I ssh into it with a normal user account and then later switch to root with su to edit specific files.
[10:21] <theadmin> mr_daniel: Great, so your problem is?
[10:22] <mr_daniel> I want to to switch to a GUI-editor, e.g. Noteedit++ on Windows or gedit on Ubuntu. But I don't know how to make a su in a SFTP-session.
[10:22] <bazhang> mr_daniel, its sudo -i not su
[10:22] <mr_daniel> So my problem is how can I edit text files in a GUI-editor, where the remote ssh-server only allows nomal users to login, but I need root priveliges to edit specific files
[10:22] <bazhang> mr_daniel, gksudo for gui
[10:23] <mr_daniel> bazhang: well, in my case it is su, because the machines is running Ubuntu Server edition
[10:23] <wols> mr_daniel: install gedit on the remote box and run an X server at the one you are sitting where the screen and keyboard are
[10:24] <mr_daniel> wols: maybe this could work
[10:25] <wols> mr_daniel: and use ssh X forwarding. ssh -X
[10:29] <rrajbe> I have tried changing repositry server to main and updated and again tried to install apache2
[10:31] <rrajbe> but the problem of dependency still persists.... here is a log... http://paste.ubuntu.com/660399/ any help will be really apreciated ...
[10:32] <astraljava> rrajbe: Could you provide the `sudo apt-get update` output in pastebin, please?
[10:32] <rrajbe> @astraljava : Here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/660401/
[10:34] <astraljava> rrajbe: Thanks! `apt-cache policy apache2` next, please? :) Seems you have some other repos there, that might be making things weird.
[10:34] <simonf_> Morning, got a problem trying to change apache2.conf file. Says I don't have permissions. I built server, am only user, and set up as administrator.
[10:35] <wols> simonf_: ls -l <path to file you want to change>
[10:35] <astraljava> rrajbe: And while you're at it, please pastebin `ls -l /etc/apt/sources.list.d/`, too.
[10:35] <simonf_> wols: thanks, I'll give that a go
[10:36] <squaregoldfish> On a new install of natty, I'm getting constant disk writes of 1Mb every few seconds. iotop says it's jdb that's doing it. I'm using ext4 partitions - any way to reduce the write frequency?
[10:36] <gralco> The latest Nvidia drivers are making my system freeze, can someone help me out?
[10:36] <rrajbe> @astraljava : Here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/660404/
[10:37] <wols> squaregoldfish: just don't run jdb?
[10:37] <rrajbe> @astraljava : that scooter software is bcos i ve installed beyond compare
[10:37] <wols> gralco: run the ones provided by ubuntu
[10:37] <gralco> wols: they do as well
[10:38] <wols> gralco: nvidia drivers are closed source software. what do you expect ubuntu to change?
[10:38] <squaregoldfish> @wols I thought jdb was the journal manager. Isn't that kind of important?
[10:38] <szal> gralco: define 'latest Nvidia drivers'
[10:39] <gralco> szal: anything past 173.xx.xx
[10:39] <szal> gralco: actual version number you used please
[10:39] <wols> squaregoldfish: sudo psaux |grep jdb
[10:39] <wols> squaregoldfish: sudo ps aux |grep jdb
[10:39] <gralco> szal: none atm
[10:39] <simonf_> wol: that command returned this "-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7994 2011-02-22 18:32 /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[10:39] <simonf_> "
[10:39] <szal> gralco: well, which _did_ you use?
[10:39] <agike> Hi, I keep getting "> configure: error: Library requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.10.0 gtk+-unix-print-2.0 glib-2.0 gobject-2.0 gdk-x11-2.0) not met;
[10:39] <agike> " when trying to install icecat5 .. how do I apt-install their devel versions ?
[10:40] <wols> gralco: what videocard exactly?
[10:40] <gralco> szal: most recently 180.13
[10:40] <squaregoldfish> @wols No processes. Pretty sure it's a kernel thing.
[10:40] <gralco> wols: 8800m gts
[10:40] <szal> gralco: for what card?
[10:40] <wols> simonf_: sudo nano /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[10:41] <gralco> szal: 8800m gts
[10:41] <wols> gralco: why do you use legacy nvidia drivers?
[10:41] <gralco> wols: I'm sorry that was a typo I meant 280.13
[10:41]  * szal has no idea what the 180 is supposed to be for, but the 8800 runs on nvidia-current (by default 270; it displayed a freezing bug that was fixed in 275 and, afaics, didn't reappear in 280)
[10:42] <wols> gralco: 280 is not a ubuntu provided driver
[10:42] <gralco> szal: that doesn't seem to be true for me
[10:43] <astraljava> rrajbe: Your security repo isn't being indexed, hang on.
[10:44] <astraljava> rrajbe: Yep, missed it first but it's not in the sources.list at all.
[10:46] <astraljava> rrajbe: Add the lines found here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/660413/  to your sources.list, update, and try the installation again.
[10:46]  * szal still thinks that nVidia have seriously b0rked something w/ the 8800; I remember the cries of dismay when it came out
[10:46] <szal> iirc it was the first GF8
[10:46] <fratz> got a ext3 partition, 65GB used space but i only can see a 1,2MB file ...
[10:46] <spexi> Hi! Is there any way to use two different wallpapers, because I'm having two monitors? Either with one big 3360x1200 wallpaper or separate 1920x1200 and 1440x900 wallpapers. I'm using Natty and with classic view, not Unity.
[10:47] <wols> szal: it was the longest running card ever. you still can buy it today in form of the gts250
[10:47] <wols> szal: it's pretty much the most successful nvidia card ever :)
[10:47] <astraljava> fratz: `du -h --max-depth=1 /path/to/partition` will show you which directories hold the data.
[10:48] <fratz> thx
[10:48] <lotuspsychje> lol
[10:49] <rrajbe> @astraljava : That solved my issue... thanks a lot... :)
[10:50] <astraljava> rrajbe: Good to hear. No prob. It was pretty damn time you added it anyway, you were missing security updates all along. :)
[10:51] <simonf_> wol, thanks - that's sorted out the editing of the conf file
[10:52] <squaregoldfish> @wols I mis-typed. The process is there: root       215     2  0 08:46 ?        00:00:02 [jbd2/sda1-8]
[10:53] <fratz> @astraljava du: Zugriff auf „/media/Ext3/Bilder“ nicht möglich: Eingabe-/Ausgabefehler
[10:55] <astraljava> fratz: Don't do deutsch that well, so could you just pastebin the whole output from that command?
[10:55] <theadmin> astraljava: Access to "/media/Ext3/Bilder" denied: Input-output error
[10:55] <theadmin> astraljava: That's what it says
[10:56] <fratz> right
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> Anyone knows a logo designer package for ubuntu?
[10:56] <fratz> can i set the terminal to english?
[10:57] <theadmin> fratz: You could try...
[10:57] <wols> fratz: LANG=C <command you want to give us the output>
[10:57] <theadmin> fratz: Try this: LANG=C bash
[10:57] <jrib> lotuspsychje: inkscape or gimp
[10:57] <astraljava> fratz: Okay, what if you add sudo in front of the command? And yes, please add what wols and theadmin just suggested.
[10:57] <wols> squaregoldfish: maybe tune2fs has a setting for it
[10:57] <lotuspsychje> jrib: gimp is little heavy for what i need
[10:58] <jrib> lotuspsychje: not sure why that would be a problem, but try inkscape I guess (it's for vector graphics)
[10:58] <wols> fratz: I am german so I understand the error message. it's "I/O Error". check your kernel log
[10:58] <fratz> how to check the kernel log?
[10:58] <theadmin> fratz: It's around /var/log
[10:59] <lotuspsychje> jrib: i just was wondering if anything specific for logo's existed for ubuntu
[10:59] <theadmin> fratz: Search for any files that start with "kernel"
[10:59] <wols> theadmin: it's kern.log there. and in his case, simply dmesg is enough
[10:59] <jrib> lotuspsychje: I'd say both inkscape and gimp are useful as logo designing tools
[10:59] <theadmin> wols: Ah, could be true
[11:00] <theadmin> Gosh >.< *mutes sound* Avast will make me deaf someday
[11:00] <theadmin> Ahem
[11:00] <theadmin> Sorry about that
[11:00] <spyzer> hello everyone, just like i run make clean to clean the *.o files, is there something for automake and autoconf generate files cleaning up action as well??
[11:00] <jrib> lotuspsychje: maybe blender too if you want to work with 3-d modelling
[11:00] <spyzer> please tell
[11:00] <lotuspsychje> jrib: im sure it does proffessionally, but im not really the image editing expert so :p
[11:00] <wols> theadmin: it also made you stupid by just running AV :P
[11:02] <spyzer> no?
[11:03] <cypha> what does %U do after chromium-browser?
[11:03] <fratz> the ext3 partition is on a external 120GB HDD and the attributes say, that 65GB are used, but the file-browser only shows a single 1,2 MB .xml file
[11:04] <jrib> cypha: http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ar01s06.html
[11:04] <jrib> cypha: if  you drag a url to the .desktop it will open it in chromium
[11:05] <fratz> du -h .... did tell me, that there are still files on the partition but there is an I/O-Error
[11:05] <cypha> jrib: what do you mean drag it to .desktop?
[11:05] <cypha> drag it into a folder called .desktop?
[11:05] <jrib> cypha: no, drag it the .desktop file for chromium
[11:05] <cypha> or drag a url to the desktop at all
[11:05] <MrNthDegree> cypha, IIRC %U means URL
[11:06] <MrNthDegree> cypha, it's there so when you open a file or URL with it and you get an Open With prompt, selecting Chromium from the list will open it
[11:06] <MrNthDegree> as GNOME/KDE take their Open With options from the applications list
[11:06] <cypha> hmm. k
[11:07] <cypha> so if I run chromium from the command line with the %U, i can do what?
[11:07] <MrNthDegree> cypha, imagine you have a .htm file you wanna open and it's not already associated ;)
[11:07] <cypha> k
[11:07] <MrNthDegree> cypha, makes no difference
[11:08] <cypha> continue with your example
[11:08] <cypha> :)
[11:08] <MrNthDegree> cypha, it's there for the benefit of Open With when you double click unassociated stuff
[11:08] <lolmatic> hey
[11:08] <lolmatic> my metacity seems to have a memory leak
[11:08] <MrNthDegree> cypha, i'll screenshot an example
[11:08] <ikonia> lolmatic: ok
[11:08] <lolmatic> it takes up more and more ram over time
[11:08] <cypha> gracias :)
[11:08] <ikonia> lolmatic: ok
[11:09] <MrNthDegree> cypha, http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/3971/screenshot0807201112090.png <--- the %U is there for this screen
[11:10] <MrNthDegree> cypha, in that case, that's an XFCE Open With screen, but there are similar for GNOME and KDE
[11:10] <Jim_Parsons> hi im on ubuntu now
[11:10] <rainy> hi
[11:10] <MrNthDegree> %U means "stick the filename/url here"
[11:10] <Jim_Parsons> im liking it very mucho
[11:10] <rainy> !list
[11:10] <MrNthDegree> (or it does on GNOME/KDE)
[11:11] <Jim_Parsons> but i have one problem that my videos doesnt seem to vsync
[11:11] <Tyrnis> plop all
[11:11] <Jim_Parsons> i get tearing
[11:11] <cypha> aaha
[11:11] <Jim_Parsons> on debian i did not get this
[11:11] <cypha> now i got it
[11:11] <ikonia> Tyrnis: ?
[11:11] <cypha> thanks MrNthDegree! :)
[11:11] <Jim_Parsons> does anyone know a solution?
[11:11] <Tyrnis> yep ikonia  ?
[11:11] <ikonia> Tyrnis: plop all ?
[11:12] <Jim_Parsons> pleases help me ubuntu masters
[11:12] <Tyrnis> It's only a salutation ^^
[11:12] <Jim_Parsons> show me ur true power
[11:12] <ikonia> Tyrnis: normally people say "hello"
[11:13] <Jim_Parsons> i have a starship in order its weapons are locked onto your position
[11:13] <Jim_Parsons> i suggest your help me
[11:13] <Jim_Parsons> orbit*
[11:13] <ikonia> Jim_Parsons: please stop with the pointless comments
[11:13] <wrtiii> wols: Are you there? permission to send you a pm?
[11:13] <ikonia> Jim_Parsons: if someone can and wants to help you, they will
[11:13] <wols> if you must
[11:13] <Jim_Parsons> i thought u were all linux geniuses
[11:13] <Jim_Parsons> how dissapointing
[11:14] <fratz> astraljava: http://pastebin.de/18126
[11:14] <Jim_Parsons> maybe i should go back to debian since i like watching movies
[11:14] <ikonia> Jim_Parsons: ok, bye
[11:14] <Jim_Parsons> arnt u gonna try to convince me?
[11:15] <k2lu> ^^
[11:15] <ikonia> Jim_Parsons: no, bye
[11:15] <Jim_Parsons> if i can fix this video tear issue i would stay with ubuntu forever
[11:15] <ikonia> Jim_Parsons: sorry, no
[11:15] <theadmin> Jim_Parsons: We don't work here.
[11:15] <Jim_Parsons> please ikonia
[11:15] <theadmin> Jim_Parsons: We're volunteers.
[11:15] <Jim_Parsons> i know u can help me
[11:15] <Jim_Parsons> use ur gifts
[11:15] <astraljava> fratz: Okay, as wols and theadmin suggested, you need to pastebin /var/log/syslog (not all of it, just the relevant parts) so that we can see what the kernel says when it mounts the drive and tries to use it.
[11:15] <wols> !attitude | Jim_Parsons
[11:15] <ikonia> Jim_Parsons: I suggest you go back to #debian
[11:15] <Jim_Parsons> i beg of you to help me
[11:15] <wols> ikonia: you bastard!
[11:15] <Jim_Parsons> for the glory of ubuntu
[11:16] <astraljava> fratz: There is data, but filesystem browser won't show it because of all the errors.
[11:16] <html> hi
[11:16] <theadmin> Oh god now this is a mess...
[11:16] <Jim_Parsons> and all it stands for open source and open support
[11:16] <ikonia> Jim_Parsons: I will warn you one last time to stop with the pointless comments
[11:16] <ikonia> Jim_Parsons: if someone knows the answer and wants to help - they will
[11:16] <fratz> astraljava: how do i know what relevant parts are?
[11:16] <theadmin> Hello, html
[11:16] <Jim_Parsons> someone sounds like a broken record eheheheh
[11:16] <html> Jim_Parsons,  wgat do you need
[11:16] <lotuspsychje> Jim_Parsons: a good start would be pastebin your logs for errors
[11:16] <chenthu> how can i kill a process....especially with its process id (PID) ?
[11:16] <Jim_Parsons> i have video tear issues on ubuntu like vsync wont work
[11:16] <theadmin> chenthu: kill PID
[11:16] <wols> chenthu: kill <pid>
[11:16] <Jim_Parsons> watching movies on vlc and mplayer
[11:17] <theadmin> chenthu: Or, "killall processname"
[11:17] <html> theadmin,  nice name and easy to spell , and hi back
[11:17] <Jim_Parsons> they were fine on stock deban
[11:17] <Jim_Parsons> so i dont see why it would be fine on ubuntu
[11:17] <chenthu> theadmin and wols : thank you
[11:17] <Jim_Parsons> wouldnt*
[11:17] <chenthu> theadmin: whats the diff between kill and kill all?
[11:17] <astraljava> fratz: All that has /media/Ext3 on it. You can do `grep \/media\/Ext3 /var/log/syslog`, but that might leave out something.
[11:17] <theadmin> chenthu: killall kills by name
[11:17] <theadmin> chenthu: kill kills by pid
[11:18] <chenthu> theadmin: oh ok...thank you
[11:18] <theadmin> chenthu: pkill does both, I think, but almost never used for some reason
[11:18] <wols> fratz: what did your kernel log say?
[11:18] <cypha> can someone tell me how to unbind alt+1 in xterm?
[11:18] <fratz> astraljava: do i need to unmount the drive before i pastebin /syslog?
[11:18] <astraljava> fratz: No.
[11:19] <fratz> acces denied to /var/log/syslog
[11:19] <astraljava> fratz: Just add sudo in front.
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> anyone knows snort log location to tail -f realtime in terminal?
[11:19] <wols> lotuspsychje: all logs are supposed to be in /var/log due to fhs
[11:20] <html> Jim_Parsons,  ahh that mess bug, huh?  so you it ot >>>   just update and manually and vlc key to the "ubuntu center" and try to update / reboot / a bit of tuime
[11:20] <lotuspsychje> wols: i found em in syslog.1 but i would love them in seperate instead of syslog.1
[11:21] <html> Jim_Parsons, can i "IM" you ?
[11:21] <wols> lotuspsychje: tail -f /var/log/syslog |grep <snort identifier>
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> wols: tnx lemme try
[11:21] <theadmin> !pm | html
[11:22] <fratz> astraljava: sudo: /var/log/syslog: command not found
[11:22] <html> i did ask theadmin .
[11:22] <edi> Hi guys
[11:22] <html> hi  edi ,
[11:22] <edi> can you please help me w/ my graphic card output?
[11:22] <wrtiii> I've been having a large issue with installing linux over the past week.  I believe I had finally determined what the problem has been.  While partitioning my drives I noticed that the installation usb was labeled hda, with my primary drive being hdb and secondy hdc naturally.  Everything appears to go smoothly until I reboot, the pc posts and screen goes to black with a blinking cursor and it
[11:22] <wrtiii> hangs there.  This time I installed as per every other time except when it asked me if I wished to install the bootloader to the mbr I removed the usb stick. It now has given me a fatal error as it is unable to install to hda.
[11:22] <edi> hi html
[11:22] <theadmin> html: What I mean is, reply to Jim_Parsons' question here.
[11:22] <theadmin> html: Not in PM
[11:22] <wrtiii>  Is there something I can do pre installation to correct this, or am I best to replace the usb stick and let it install the bootloader to it. then boot from the usb stick and somehow ( I would need help with this ) install the bootloader to the correct drive after the installation?
[11:23] <astraljava> fratz: Either open the log file in an editor, like `gksudo gedit /var/log/syslog`, or use the grepping like `sudo grep Ext3 /var/log/syslog`.
[11:23] <html> theadmin,  ok
[11:24] <wrtiii> I have had this problem across multiple machines and multiple distros.  Are you sure that the drive is alright, and it works flawlessly in some other machine?
[11:31] <Jim_Parsons> :(
[11:31] <Titanoboa> ohi.
[11:31] <theadmin> Jim_Parsons: For the last time, if no one helps, no one can.
[11:31] <Jim_Parsons> but im jim parsons from the big bang theory
[11:31] <chenthu> theadmin: ok thank you
[11:31] <theadmin> ikonia: Thanks.
[11:31] <Jim_Parsons> that wasnt very nice next time i will kick you 3 times
[11:32] <Jim_Parsons> but this time consider it a freebie
[11:32] <wols> Jim_Parsons: or more likely they don't like your attitude and think you are a noisy ***hole. I still don't understand why you aren't just kicked and be done with
[11:32] <Titanoboa> I'm on ubuntu 11.04 LiveCD, how can I easily check what graphics card I have?
[11:32] <Sidewinder1> Here comes the ban.
[11:32] <theadmin> ikonia: And thanks again.
[11:32] <wols> Titanoboa: lspci -nn
[11:32] <fratz> astraljava: i checked it on my netbook but there it doesnt even show me the small file
[11:32] <wols> Titanoboa: lspci -nn |grep VGA should narrow it down
[11:32] <chenthu> theadmin:  where can i find the interfaces file?
[11:33] <wols> chenthu: /etc/network/interfaces
[11:33] <html>  wrtiii , not that there are soommme, flash media  the just  says "F! U"  just cuz  , and sometimes it works / or is picky, just get a usb ( that is known to work / brand that  can do it all )   i have a "travel" usb  ( http://tinyurl.com/3llz5rm ),cuz you can allways got smaller but never bigger,,
[11:33] <theadmin> chenthu: /etc/network/interfaces?
[11:33] <Flex> is it possible to update your graphics driver on livecd?
[11:33] <chenthu> theadmin: thank you
[11:33] <chenthu> wols: thank you :)
[11:33] <Titanoboa> wols: cool. 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc RV515 PRO [Radeon X1300/X1550 Series] [1002:7142]
[11:33] <fratz> astraljava: few days ago everything worked fine. While i was doing some backups the process crashed and now its like that
[11:33] <wols> Titanoboa: congrats. now you know
[11:33] <theadmin> chenthu: No problem. Altough I wanted to say /etc/network.d originally, but wols corrected me there :D
[11:34] <wrtiii> html: I have used multiple different usb sticks with the same outcome earlier this week I attempted different usb sticks and multiple distros as well as multiple downloads of the same distros
[11:34] <wols> Flex: it is afaik, but as soon as you reboot that update is gone
[11:34] <Flex> wols, how many drivers are there for ati? is there still an unofficial version?
[11:34] <Titanoboa> now, is it possible to upgrade/enable/update or whatever it so I can play this game I somehow installed to RAM? :)  (big tournament today. after that i'll go back to trying to actually install ubuntu_
[11:34] <astraljava> fratz: Then something went awry, and I don't know how to fix that. I'm sorry. Hope you get someone to help you further.
[11:34] <html> Jim_Parson it could be ur hardware
[11:34] <fratz> astraljava: thanks anyway!
[11:35] <ikonia> html: he's long gone
[11:35] <wols> Flex: for you, there is "ati" and nothing else
[11:35] <Flex> Titanoboa, yes it is, as wols said, you won't have it if you reboot, that's all.
[11:35] <astraljava> fratz: Keep that syslog pastebin entry handy, so that you can present that with the story of 'something went wrong while backuping', it will make a good starting point.
[11:35] <justmozzy> hey guys. anyone knows if one can integrate the software center with the unity menu?
[11:35] <mattalexx> Is there a way to enable the Canonical Partner Repository with out "sed"ding around in /etc/apt/sources.list? Maybe a command that will do it?
[11:36] <theadmin> mattalexx: you can add-apt-repository "deb http://example.org/repo natty main" or whatnot
[11:36] <theadmin> mattalexx: I don't know the exact address
[11:36] <theadmin> mattalexx: Nor the exact notation.
[11:36] <Titanoboa> wols/flex okay so I just go to Ubuntu Software Center and find this: ATI binary X.Org driver      ?
[11:36] <Titanoboa> & install
[11:36] <fratz> astraljava: at least i now know what the drive contents
[11:36] <html> ikonia,  you kiCKED him when i was helping him out ?!!?  wow.....
[11:37] <theadmin> html: He was being incredibly rude.
[11:37] <wols> html: if you haven't noticed: this guy was trolling. he didn't need help
[11:38] <html> then hes a totlal nebie! and theres a few websites you can send him to , and no i didnt know he was trolling,
[11:39] <lotuspsychje> wols: tnx mate grep snort worked out fine realtime
[11:39] <iceman__> hey there.. is there no control panel in ubuntu anymore?
[11:39] <html> wrtiii,  so what are you trying to do?
[11:40] <Sidewinder1> !classic | iceman__
[11:40] <szal> html: if this guy really was someone famous as he claimed to be, then he exhibited a clear case of what we call in German 'Starallüren' ;)
[11:40] <iceman__> aha, thanks Sidewinder1 =)
[11:41] <chenthu> can some one tell me how to kill or stop wpa_supplicant process.... when i kill it restarts and when i stop , it says its not a service
[11:41] <synapse> Anyone know the best channel for linux audio support?
[11:41] <html> szal, what do you mean ? and famous? like who?
[11:41] <szal> html: [13:31:33] <Jim_Parsons> but im jim parsons from the big bang theory
[11:41] <oCean> let's move on, ok?
[11:42] <theadmin> oCean's right, forget it.
[11:42] <dnivra> synapse: if it's ubuntu related, it'd be here. any other distro, please ask in the specific distro's channel.
[11:42] <theadmin> rm -rf /earth/people/irc/channel-ubuntu/Jim_Parsons #okay?
[11:42] <Sidewinder1> iceman__, Glas to've "hepped".
[11:42] <chenthu> wols: how to stop wpa_suppliacant... it restsrts when i kill it or i never kills
[11:42] <smokeycastle> So ubuntu changed out of unity, how do i get it to go back in
[11:42] <synapse> it's more of a kernel/usb/m-audio question, I am using ubuntu btw
[11:43] <html> szal, well "FYI" if you watch him he talks about linux on the show often, just youtubue it
[11:43] <dnivra> !ask | synapse
[11:43] <oCean> html: drop that discussion now please
[11:43] <szal> synapse: perhaps you should ask your question, so we can see whether it fits here or not
[11:44] <wols> chenthu: why do you want to stop it?
[11:44] <theadmin> chenthu: I think "ifconfig wlan0 down" might as well help
[11:44] <wrtiii> html: my intention is to install a linux based server distro that will act as a voice and web server for my own personal means.
[11:44] <smokeycastle> I am trying to use vi on a laptop (asus) but the insert keys are all called as secondary by pressing function key + buttons.
[11:45] <html> im me=aking to simple point of getting linux out there , and how wonderful if someone famous helps us along
[11:45] <wrtiii> html: I have had a windows based server running for the past year doing exactly this but deciding that for a change of flavourand some new experience I would switch to linux and have had nothing but trouble with it.
[11:45] <chenthu> wols: i am using aircrack-ng  an this process needs to be stopped for it to work.....
[11:45] <synapse> Ok, I asked in #kernel about this m-audio usbcore/bandwidth exceeded problem, they says they are working on it, does anyone know the best channel to get the help I need?
[11:45] <Benkinooby> what is the best place to ask about licensing? i wan't to know more about canonicals contributor agreement
[11:46] <chenthu> theadmin: no i just ent the particular thin stoped not close lan
[11:46] <chenthu> wlan*
[11:46] <wols> Dear $deity: please redeem us from script kiddies. or "pentesters" as they like to call themselves
[11:47] <chenthu> wols: ?...$deity? and no i am not prntesing or scripting i m learning and that too on my on wifi netwrok
[11:47] <html> wrtiii,  and thats one reason y linux is so hard to get a "virus" and /or a  bug to get your info/money ..ect..
[11:48] <theadmin> chenthu: Hm, well, let me see
[11:48] <wols> html: no it's not
[11:48] <wols> chenthu: how have you set up your network configuration?
[11:48] <theadmin> chenthu: Try this: sudo kill -s SIGQUIT $(cat /var/run/wpa_supplicant/wlan0.pid)
[11:48] <wrtiii> html: I installed @ first a debian distro on recommendation and upon reboot after installation I was greeted with a black screen and a blinking cursor. After troubleshooting that with different usbs sticks, redownloaded isos and ubuntu distro attempts I chalked it up as being an incompatible pc (Dell GX280) I received a new pc (Dell GX620) and experience the same problems. So I decided it must
[11:48] <wrtiii> be the P4 era dells.  I then got a Levono PC from the same era and yet again encounter the same problem.
[11:49] <oCean> wrtiii: how is that an #ubuntu issue?
[11:50] <html> wrtii, well a nob can make a "ms" virus" but linux yoou need a bit of skill ,
[11:50] <smokeycastle> how do I make it so ubuntu loads into unity again?
[11:50] <wrtiii> oCean: because it appears to be a problem with the ubuntu installer?
[11:50] <theadmin> html: A bit? Now, please, Linux is too secure.
[11:50] <theadmin> smokeycastle: On the login screen, choose "Ubuntu" in the session menu
[11:50] <oCean> wrtiii: in ##linux you're saying not wanting to use ubuntu because of it's sudo
[11:51] <synapse> if you are concerned about virii, use clamd or symantic's version
[11:51] <anadon> how do I use an installer with the ".so" extension?
[11:51] <theadmin> anadon: That's not an installer at all, that's a library
[11:51] <smokeycastle> ok so I have done that however unity still not there?
[11:51] <synapse> anadon: don't think you can :)
[11:51] <wrtiii> html: I managed to complete an install of 11.04 server on this newer pc and had my server  up and running but upon speaking with some people determined that I would use the 10.04 LTS version instead.
[11:51] <smokeycastle> and no message saying it was disabled or anything
[11:51] <html> wrtiii,  form here on out i willl bee talkin just to you
[11:52] <synapse> anadon: what library/object are you having problems with
[11:52] <anadon> theadmin: then where do I put it?  Its the flash beta and there's more in that folder than just a ".so"
[11:52] <html> wrtiii,  so if i dont put ur name , just know it s you
[11:52] <theadmin> anadon: Well, your browser's plugins folder.
[11:53] <synapse> anadon: I think you need to link that to .flashplugins if you are talking about the flash addon
[11:53] <anadon> is it /usr/firefox?
[11:53] <anadon> damn...is there a guide to this?
[11:53] <chenthu> wols: u mean my wifi or the netwrok i am currntly using?
[11:53] <chenthu> theadmin: ok will try that
[11:53] <ZwIrc> Hi
[11:53] <wols> chenthu: wifi
[11:53] <wrtiii> html: 10.04 LTS ran me straight back into the same black screen upon rebooting after installation.  I noticed while troubleshooting tonight @ the partitioning stage of the installation that the USB Stick was HDA followed by my two harddrives HDB and C.  So on my most recent installation when it asked me if I wished to install the bootloader to the MBR I removed the usb stick before  selecting
[11:53] <wrtiii> yes. I then received a fatal error saying that HDA was not found.
[11:53] <ZwIrc> need some help! Lost some important files.
[11:54] <wols> chenthu: e.g. nm, wicd, etc
[11:54] <chenthu> wols: streaming from my mobile (android)
[11:54] <theadmin> ZwIrc: Do you want a file recovery program? If so, look testdisk up
[11:54] <szal> anadon: is it the 64bit 11.0 beta?
[11:54] <wrtiii> html: this actually showed up earlier this week because after every installation I would have to recreate my usb stick because booting from it a 2nd time booted directly to the grub boot loader.
[11:54] <synapse> andon: is this hava or flash?
[11:54] <synapse> hava/java
[11:54] <anadon> szal: yup
[11:54] <ZwIrc> I got help to create a RAMDISK. I have stored many server files there, but what i did not know was after i did a recovery on the computer, all files in RAMDISK disapeared
[11:54] <html> wrtiii,  did you check  the bois? update it?
[11:54] <szal> anadon: there's a PPA for that
[11:54] <anadon> synapse: its adobe flash
[11:55] <wols> ZwIrc: a ramdisk is in memory. everytime you reboot whatever is in there is gone
[11:55] <wrtiii> html: So I am well aware now that the linux installation has been installing linux to the selected disk but does not follow that same selection when installing the bootloader and defaults to HDA MBR.
[11:55] <szal> anadon: https://launchpad.net/~sevenmachines/+archive/flash
[11:55] <chenthu> wols: i am not using my wifi right now...but if i was using it would be using nm
[11:55] <ZwIrc> wols: but id did never disapear before when i rebooted
[11:55] <wols> chenthu: if wpasupp runs, you are using it
[11:55] <ZwIrc> was only this time when using a recovery
[11:55] <synapse> anadon: http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/linux.html#Flash
[11:56] <ZwIrc> but is there any chance to get the files back? :s
[11:56] <wols> ZwIrc: stuff in ramdisks disappear always. if they don't it's not ramdisk
[11:56] <punter> How do I make xterm to display vivid colors instead of bold? I tried the +bdc switch with no luck so far...
[11:56] <chenthu> wols: no i am actually using my 3g Data Key
[11:56] <synapse> anadon: copy libflashplayer.so to your Mozilla plugins directory and flashplayer.xpt to your Mozilla components directory.
[11:56] <ZwIrc> how to recover them?
[11:56] <wrtiii> html:  What I am unsure of now is my best course of action.  -- Yes the bios is now up to date. -- Should I boot from the usb stick into the installation and then somehow ( I am not knowledgable enough to know how ) install a new copy of the bootloader to the mbr on the correct drive.  Or is there something I am doing incorrectly prior to installation that is causing the USB Stick to show up
[11:56] <wrtiii> as HDA during installation?
[11:56] <html> wrtiii,  check out yumi, xboot, ,  or a multi -boot theme,     then try it out on a vurtual box
[11:57] <anadon> synapse: I have no idea where those are....the linux fs makes no sense to me.
[11:57] <synapse> anadon: sudo updatedb and then run "locate firefox | grep plugins"
[11:58] <chenthu> theadmin:  it ried it says.... "cat/var/run/wpa_supplicant/wlan0.pid: No such file or directory"
[11:58] <wrtiii> html: are those alternative boot loaders?
[11:58] <theadmin> wrtiii: LILO, Syslinux
[11:58] <html> there is like 6-12 things to check for ,  and  you need some time  for it all
[11:58] <cousin_mario> hello
[11:58] <ZwIrc> is it posible to recover files from a ramdisk?
[11:58]  * cousin_mario can't make xorg-edgers or x-swat nvidia drivers work on natty
[11:59] <wols> !ppa | cousin_mario
[11:59] <poincare101> Hello everyone, I have a .ts file (which is of file type MPEG2 TS), I am trying to convert it to some format I can play (VLC refuses to play it), how can I convert it?
[11:59] <synapse> cousin_mario: I am upgrading to 11.04 right now and I hope I dont have that problem
[11:59] <cousin_mario> wols: ok about my own risk, but is there anyone else using it?
[11:59] <html> wrtiii,  http://tinyurl.com/3llz5rm i have have the best luck with this usb drive,
[11:59] <wrtiii> Is it possible once loaded into ubuntu to install a bootloader to the mbr of a specified disk?
[11:59] <cousin_mario> synapse: you'll need them if you use kde
[12:00] <wols> cousin_mario: see the part about "unsupported"? it means: not supported here. we don't care if it breaks for you
[12:00] <KleinM> Hi, I downloaded my graphics card drivers from the nvidia website, because it didn't show at System->Administration->Hardware Drivers.  So I installed it but now when I boot into Ubuntu, I get an error that says that Ubuntu is now in low-graphic mode and I still can't activate the extra effects at Appearance.  Anyone knows how to fix this?
[12:00] <cousin_mario> wols: any other place you would recommend to ask about that?
[12:00] <lei_> heilei
[12:00] <html> wrtiii, can you pm ,  the  details
[12:00] <wols> cousin_mario: whoever made the ppa
[12:00] <poincare101> Hello everyone, I have a .ts file (which is of file type MPEG2 TS), I am trying to convert it to some format I can play (VLC refuses to play it), how can I convert it?
[12:00] <synapse> cousin_mario: well, I went from edgey to 10.0.4 to 10.10 fine
[12:00] <wols> KleinM: what videocard exactly?
[12:01] <ZwIrc> is it posible to recover files from a ramdisk wols?
[12:01] <wols> !repeat | poincare101
[12:01] <theadmin> ZwIrc: Nope.
[12:01] <cousin_mario> synapse: X won't even start with nvidia 280
[12:01] <KleinM> GeForce GT 540m
[12:01] <Drona> folks can someone tell me how to make the evolution recognise your wvdial setting as default internet settings?
[12:01] <synapse> cousin_mario: oh, I use a gt9800, no idea
[12:02] <wols> synapse: note how cousin_mario mario is totally wrong. X starting or not has nothing to do with kde
[12:02] <synapse> wols: I didn't want to say it
[12:03] <poincare101> wols: I need help pretty quickly. do you have any pointers?
[12:03] <html> wrtiii,  yes
[12:03] <wols> poincare101: and I need a pony. if you need help totally quickly, get a consultant
[12:04] <bullgard4_> What keyboard layout alternatives to "nodeadkeys" does the Ubuntu-Server 11.04 amd64 offer?
[12:04] <wols> poincare101: what is the "file" output?
[12:05] <html> theadmin,  oh , and yes i know that linux with no gui and proper setup is very tough to hack/break,
[12:05] <wols> html: you talk a lot of uninformed garbage :)
[12:05] <poincare101> wols: pastebin?
[12:06] <wols> poincare101: it's a single line that output normally, you wouldn't need a pastebin. do you know the command "file"?
[12:07] <KleinM> wols: I have a GeForce GT 540m, and some Integrated Intel thing.  But how do I let Ubuntu use only my nvidia card and not the intel?
[12:08] <anadon> synapse: ok, I cp'd the .so to all the firefox plugin directories in /usr/lib.  What now?
[12:08] <junior_> hello all
[12:08] <wols> KleinM: have you set your BIOS to "discrete" or such?
[12:08] <Sidewinder1> poincare101, A .TS file is generally the format used on "store-bought" DVDs, as in "Video.TS" Not sure about VLC, but Totem will certainly play it provided all of the other files are there.
[12:08] <wols> KleinM: so it actually uses it by default?
[12:09] <wols> Sidewinder1: totem uses ffmpeg too, right?
[12:09] <Sidewinder1> wols, As far as I know.
[12:10] <KleinM> wols: No, I didn't see something like that in my BIOS?
[12:11] <wols> Titanoboa: no, fglrx (ATI binary X.Org driver) will not work for you
[12:15] <KleinM> wols: I think it uses the Intel by defualt, otherwise it would have been picked up and wouldn't have said "No Proprietary drivers found"
[12:15] <wols> KleinM: I asked you something
[12:15] <wols> ah, missed the answer, sorry
[12:15] <Titanoboa>
[12:16] <Titanoboa> Okay so
[12:16] <wols> ikonia: see that problem KleinM has. another one with a fscked up Optimus. Yay crap laptops!
[12:16] <Machtin> i get no sound while using s/pdif in the browser.. vlc works :/ any hints?
[12:16] <Titanoboa> next project is to get ventrilo for ubuntu! i've never compiled anything before :) am i foolish to assume there's some easily comprehended tutorial around?
[12:17] <krazykrivda> can anyone help me with mounting my vfat partition so I can edit the files?
[12:17] <ikonia> wols: I wasn't following, but I'll have a quick scroll back
[12:17] <wols> Machtin: start the browser via xterm and check if it outputs any error messages there. try to use /dev/dsp with any sound program and see if it outputs any noise on the speakers
[12:17] <clakes> love is suicide
[12:17] <clakes> (sorry, just had to share)
[12:17] <wols> ikonia: always the same. intel/nvidia setup. trying to load nvidia drivers, and X refuses to load them. at most, intel drivers can be loaded
[12:17] <Sidewinder1> Titanoboa, Perhaps have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware?highlight=%28%28CompilingEasyHowTo%29%29
[12:17] <ikonia> clakes: please don't
[12:18] <html>  how do i turn  a img to a iso >>>>  aka distro    meego for netbooks
[12:18] <Titanoboa> thx Sidewinder1, i'll get back here if i need more help which will surely happen.
[12:18] <ikonia> wols: yes, I'm seeing more what you mean
[12:18] <wols> Titanoboa: did the ATI binary X.org driver work for you?
[12:18] <Sidewinder1> NP
[12:18] <szal> Machtin: play sound in browser, use pavucontrol to put stream on correct output
[12:19] <Titanoboa> wols i gave up D: tournament is starting too soon, i just need to get vent and eat now
[12:19] <dr_willis> html,  in that case the img is a 'hard drive' image thats normally dd'd to a usb flash drive. Converting it to a iso may be tricky.
[12:19] <wols> Titanoboa: your videocard should be supported by the "ati" driver out of the box in ubuntu
[12:19] <Titanoboa> i got an error in the end of installing it and now i can't even remove it to try again so, gave up :)
[12:19] <dr_willis> html,  how big is the img file?
[12:19] <Titanoboa> out of the box?
[12:19] <KleinM> wols, ikonia: Have you dealt with a similar problem before?
[12:20] <wols> Titanoboa: yes, without any configuratin
[12:20] <wols> KleinM: yes
[12:20] <KleinM> wols: Solved it?
[12:20] <wols> KleinM: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[12:20] <wols> KleinM: most times yes
[12:20] <rileyp> irsend I cant get it to work in natty it work in lucid for me fine I have a mceusb transceiver
[12:21] <ZwIrc> I cant use testdisk to restore files from RAMDISK?
[12:21] <Machtin> szal: thanks :)
[12:22] <html> dr_willis,  hey long time no see ,,   i think its 700mb-750mb
[12:23] <bullgard4_> What keyboard layout alternatives to "nodeadkeys" does the Ubuntu-Server 11.04 amd64 offer?
[12:23] <dr_willis> html,  you can try just burning it to a cd/dvd. but  most likely that wont work.
[12:23] <ikonia> most burning support will support .img extensions
[12:24] <szal> ZwIrc: you gotta be kidding..  RAM is a non-permanent or volatile storage, if you delete something from it, it's gone
[12:24] <wols> html: maybe you should check what kind of data your .img is? just cause it has some sort of file extension doesn't mean a thing
[12:24] <Sidewinder1> szal, He's been told that, several times, now. :-(
[12:24] <szal> ZwIrc: same if you turn off the power supply
[12:25] <dr_willis> szal,  years ago my AMIGA had a 'Rad:' drive. a Non voliatile ram drive that could survive a reboot. :) sort of a neat trick.. but thats OT..  but still a COOL feature i wonder why its not doable in mondern OS's
[12:26] <szal> dr_willis: iirc, the RAD did survive a reboot, but not switching off the machine
[12:26] <ZwIrc> szal :( Just think it is strange, because the files have ben there in 3 months
[12:26] <ZwIrc> with rebots
[12:26] <ZwIrc> now they are gone
[12:26] <dr_willis> szal,  yep.  I said that. :) you could even defrag it..
[12:27] <ZwIrc> how do i see that it is realy a ramdisk?
[12:27] <html>  well im not sure how  to dual boot  it , (meego)  and i have been away from there distro for a long time , but then i got it easy to a cd , but i dont know how to with the updated one
[12:27] <ikonia> html: most distros dual boot the same as each other, it's all controlled through grub
[12:27] <szal> ZwIrc: 'sudo fdisk -l' please
[12:27] <html> *back then
[12:27] <szal> !paste | ZwIrc
[12:27] <dr_willis> html,  that disrto may be dead and not worth messing with also. the whole using 'img' files was somthing used like 2 yrs ago.
[12:28] <dr_willis> html,  test it in virtualbox. rename it to  whatevber.iso  see if vbox can boot it via the cd.
[12:28] <dr_willis> html,  or just fire up k3b and have it burn it to a DVD
[12:28] <wols> dr_willis: cause a reboot changes to real mode. and a kernel upon entering protected mode pretty much clears/discards the memory
[12:29] <wols> dr_willis: one can loop mount ISO files
[12:29] <html> k3b ? will it convert it? to iso?
[12:29] <szal> dr_willis: y u not in -offtopic?
[12:29] <efix> Guys, the epiphany browser is compatible with HTML5 ?
[12:29] <wols> html: have you used "file" on your img file yet?
[12:29] <synapse> I just updated to 11.04 and all of my keyboard shortcuts for virtual workspaces are displaying crazy rendering problems with my nvidia 9800gt.. any help?
[12:29] <ikonia> html: why do you want it in iso format
[12:29] <dr_willis> html,  it can burn it/convert it on the fly. but the  whole 'img' format is a bit of a vague standard.
[12:29] <wols> dr_willis: what standard?
[12:29] <dr_willis> html,  it may be a simple hard disk image dump
[12:30] <dr_willis> the pick your own standard and  name it what you want standard.
[12:30] <dr_willis> lets name it .bin :)
[12:30] <dr_willis> html,  test it in vbox. would be the quick and easy way to see if it can just boot it as an cd/dvd.
[12:30] <ikonia> no need for vbox,
[12:30] <ikonia> just run file against it
[12:30] <html> iso's are easy for me ,   anything esle and im lost
[12:30] <szal> dr_willis: neither .img nor .bin are standards; they are generic extensions for raw images of data including the underlying filesystem
[12:31] <wols> ikonia: I asked for it for half an hour now. I guess he has me on /ignore
[12:31] <dr_willis> szal,  thats my point. :)
[12:31] <ikonia> html: burning .img file that is a cd image is exactly the same as burning a cd image that's in an iso format
[12:32] <ZwIrc> szal: http://pastebin.com/T2G4yvzc
[12:32] <ZwIrc> or http://paste.ubuntu.com/660455/ if u want ^^
[12:33] <szal> ZwIrc: nothing in there that looks like a non-HDD storage device
[12:33] <KleinM> wols: Thanks for that link, im going to try that now
[12:33] <ZwIrc> then it sould be able to retrive
[12:33] <raven> how to specify bass management in pulseaudio/alsa?
[12:34] <ZwIrc> szal: it was stored on tmpfs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/660458/
[12:34] <szal> raven: define 'bass management'
[12:34] <synapse> Anyone having this problem on 11.04 nvidia 9800gt with virtual workspaces? http://i.imgur.com/g60RV.png
[12:34] <florin91> Hi folks! I have a problem: I can't generate pgp key on ubuntu. It says "Couldn't generate pgp key. General error". Any thoughts?
[12:35] <wols> florin91: you are using gpg?
[12:35] <raven> szal, specify to take the bass from lfe chan in 5.1 and not from l+r
[12:36] <phatjoe> hey guys, anyone can tell me how can I mount an ISO file (extracted from an Audio CD) ? it doesn't work with mount -o loop
[12:37] <szal> synapse: what gfx driver?
[12:37] <clakes> ikonia ...sorry for that, life advice... another one: love linux and love ubuntu
[12:37] <szal> phatjoe: audio CDs aren't mounted, they're just played
[12:37] <wols> phatjoe: file <your extracted iso file>
[12:38] <klaniara> Hi
[12:38] <dr_willis> phatjoe,  by 'extracted' you mean a 'image file' made from a cd?
[12:39] <ZwIrc> szal: it was stored on tmpfs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/660458/
[12:39] <ZwIrc> is there any chance you think?
[12:39] <phatjoe> actually the original image was extracted with Nero into an NRG image then converted with nrg2iso
[12:39] <yay> Greek please
[12:39] <wols> !gr
[12:39] <szal> !gr | yay
[12:39] <yay> ;p
[12:39] <florin91> GnuPG, I think
[12:39] <phatjoe> output from "file cd.iso" is cd.iso: DOS-executable (
[12:39] <yay> Ty
[12:40] <wols> phatjoe: doesn't sound like a ISO9660 image to me...
[12:41] <phatjoe> wols: then I should assume nrg2iso didn't get the job done..
[12:41] <dr_willis> phatjoe,  you could try a 'vlc whateverthethingis.iso' and see if it plays it..
[12:42] <florin91> Then what I need to generate pgp key pairs ?
[12:42] <yay> Ppl with blue eyes and big smile are lucky
[12:42] <dr_willis> Im not sure how it would become a 'dos executable'   Unless somehow  file is confused.
[12:42] <krazykrivda> i am unable to edit files and a mounted vfat partition.. how can I fix this?\
[12:42] <clakes> what's with saying "sorry, i regret being outta topic?"  ...'k, i guess i should regret saying "i'm sorry for i'm sorry being outta topic for a line" =)
[12:42] <synapse> szal: how do I tell the graphics driver I am using
[12:42] <phatjoe> dr_willis: I did try it with VLC also.. couldn't play a thing.. anyways.. thx for the help guys ;)
[12:42] <dr_willis> krazykrivda,  you could try installing and running ntfs-config, it can tweak the options ntfs and vfat are mounted with. But its a bit of a flakey app. OR you can mount it by hand with better options.
[12:42] <synapse> szal: I know what lspci tells me
[12:43] <ikonia> clakes: can you please keep the silly comments, speached, or words of wisdom out of the channel, the topic is Ubuntu support discussion, please try to keep to that
[12:43] <wols> synapse: Xorg.0.log
[12:43] <yay> Wish i had Strawberries
[12:43]  * wols points ikonia to yay
[12:43] <raven> i have bass parts from l + r and from lfe chan mixing on my subwoofer and that causes frequency elemination. any solution?
[12:43] <ikonia> yay: did you read what I said to clakes ?
[12:43] <ZwIrc> szal, did u see the link?
[12:44] <clakes> i just said "sorry for being out of topic"... an "it's ok" instead of a kick would do just great
[12:44] <ikonia> clakes: please join the channel #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:44] <yay> Not really im a girl I do not smart
[12:44] <yay> Im not
[12:44] <clakes> i will if you accept my excuse fot being off-topic
[12:44] <ikonia> yay: please keep the topic to ubuntu support discussion
[12:44] <yay> Ok
[12:44] <yay> Sorry
[12:44] <ikonia> yay: no problem
[12:45] <krazykrivda> i am unable to edit files mounted on a vfat partition.. what should i do?
[12:45] <szal> synapse: 'lspci -k', 'dpkg l | grep -i nvidia'
[12:45] <szal> damn
[12:45] <szal> synapse: 'lspci -k', 'dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia'
[12:45] <yay> Ubuntu is complicated for not good users which I think we might be the most
[12:45] <Sidewinder1> !ntfs | krazykrivda
[12:45] <clakes> that was off-topic szal...
[12:45] <wols> krazykrivda: "mount"
[12:46] <szal> clakes: what was?
[12:46] <ikonia> szal: ignore him
[12:46] <krazykrivda> wols: Sidewinder1 : /dev/sda5 on /mnt/FILES type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=100,umask=000)
[12:46] <Ansuman> how to know whether apache is installed on ubuntu 11.04?
[12:46] <ikonia> Ansuman: it's not by default, open the package manager, search for apache2 - see if it's marked as installed
[12:46] <retry369> ubuntu 11.10 panoroma?
[12:47] <wols> krazykrivda: unask 002
[12:47] <szal> retry369: whole sentences?
[12:47] <oCean> retry369: 11.10 support is in #ubuntu+1 channel
[12:47] <ikonia> retry369: ubuntu 11.10 discussion is in the channel #ubuntu+1
[12:47] <Ansuman> ikonia: OK. I will check thanks.
[12:49] <yay> Wols come prv to talk about ubuntu
[12:49] <dr_willis> krazykrivda,  you sure that got pasted right? and gid is not gid=1000 also?
[12:49] <krazykrivda> i'm sure i pasted correctly
[12:50] <wols> !pm | yay
[12:50] <krazykrivda> idk how to paste INCORRECTLY dr_willis lol
[12:50] <florin91> wols From terminal: gpg: can't open `/home/user/.gnupg/random_seed': Permission denied
[12:50] <wols> krazykrivda: ls -l <your FAT mountpoint>
[12:50] <yay>  Ok do most men or women use ubuntu?
[12:50] <wols> florin91: that's pretty clea, no?
[12:50] <wols> !ot | yay
[12:50] <oCean> yay: this is technical support, for discussion /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:50] <florin91> @wols chmod +x ./random
[12:51] <dr_willis> Im pretty sure that  the gid should be 1000,  the inital user i thought was UID and GID of 1000
[12:51] <synapse> szal: Kernel driver in use: nvidia, Kernel modules: nvidia-current, nouveau, nvidiafb | nvidia-173-modaliases:173.14.28-0ubuntu1, nvidia-96-modaliases:96.43.19-0ubuntu1, nvidia-common:0.2.30, nvidia-current:270.41.06-0ubuntu1, nvidia-glx-185:270.41.06-0ubuntu1, nvidia-settings:270.29-0ubuntu1
[12:51] <krazykrivda> wols: I am know unable to umount to try and remount properly
[12:51] <dr_willis> krazykrivda,  you are trying to access it as your first made user? or as a differnt user?
[12:51] <wols> dr_willis: it normally is
[12:51] <yay> The worst think I have been tough passed with d and it was hard it was that java
[12:51] <wols> krazykrivda: as your normal user, run "id"
[12:51] <yay> I remember nithing
[12:51] <oCean> yay: stop it
[12:51] <yay> Nothing
[12:51] <yay> Ok
[12:51] <krazykrivda> dr_willis: first and only user.. and it had been working how I set it up in fstab for months then 1 day it woudltn' let me edit
[12:52] <ZwIrc> Wols, the files was stored on tmpfs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/660458/
[12:52] <ZwIrc> no way to retrive them?
[12:52] <krazykrivda> wols: uid=1000(charlie) gid=1000(charlie) groups=1000(charlie),4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),46(plugdev),112(lpadmin),120(admin),122(sambashare)
[12:52] <wols> krazykrivda: so you can see, you are UID 1000
[12:52] <Ansuman> where to find package manager on ubuntu 11.04?
[12:52] <wols> krazykrivda: ls -l <mountpoint of vfat>
[12:52] <szal> synapse: uninstall everything that is not nvidia-current; if that doesn't cut it, try upgrading to nvidia-current 280 from https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[12:53] <synapse> darn
[12:53] <wols> krazykrivda: ls -ld <mountpoint of vfat>  rather
[12:53] <krazykrivda> wols: http://paste.ubuntu.com/660466/
[12:53] <synapse> is it possible to backlevel from 11.04 to 10.10 using update-manager?
[12:54] <krazykrivda> wols: drwxrwxr-x 42 charlie users 32768 1969-12-31 19:00 /mnt/FILES (ls -ld)
[12:54] <Sidewinder1> synapse, No, just do a fresh install.
[12:54] <synapse> can't risk it
[12:54] <wols> krazykrivda: and when you "gedit /mnt/FILES/mynewfile  it does say "permission denied"?
[12:54] <krazykrivda> yes
[12:54] <krazykrivda> i did remount w/ umask 002
[12:54] <krazykrivda> wols: /dev/sda5 on /mnt/FILES type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=100,umask=002)
[12:54] <synapse> I am gonna try some stuff
[12:55] <STiK> nub :P
[12:55] <synapse> thanks
[12:55] <wols> krazykrivda: mount |grep mnt/FILES    does it say rw or ro?
[12:55] <krazykrivda> wols says rw: /dev/sda5 on /mnt/FILES type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=100,umask=002)
[12:55] <Janine> Anyone here that is really good with configuring a mouse?
[12:55] <mohsin_> hi there
[12:56] <mohsin^>  /msg NickServ identify maze1226
[12:56] <wols> mohsin^: set a new password for your nick now
[12:56] <szal> mohsin^: yeah right..  you better change that pwd..
[12:57] <krazykrivda> wols: I was able to "sudo touch /mnt/FILES/test.txt"
[12:57] <krazykrivda> wols: but sudo gedit the same file and it opens read only and I cannot type at all
[12:58] <chenthu> wols: does nano work for krazykrivda ?
[12:58] <rileyp> does irsend work  in natty
[12:58] <wols> chenthu: ask him. but probably not
[12:59] <chenthu> krazykrivda: u wanna edit /mnt/FILES/test.txt?
[12:59] <Janine> anyone here that are good at configuring a mouse?
[12:59] <wols> !anyone | Janine
[12:59] <krazykrivda> chenthu: I really want to be able to use this partition as I would use anything
[12:59] <ZwIrc> No one here aviable to help me?
[12:59] <ZwIrc> -.-
[12:59] <ZwIrc> i pay well -.-
[12:59] <compdoc> ha
[13:00] <krazykrivda> chenthu: this FILES.. is where I store all my movies/music/documents etc.. that all should be operating system free
[13:00] <florin91> I don't get it. Ran again pgp --gen-key and still can't open that file ... that what it says gpg: no writable secret keyring found: eof
[13:00] <florin91> Key generation failed: eof
[13:00] <florin91> gpg: note: random_seed file not updated
[13:00] <compdoc> ZwIrc, last time you stiffed me the $50
[13:00] <chenthu> krazykrivda: please explain the problem...i just came in
[13:00] <Sidewinder1> krazykrivda, First, the correct command would be "gksudo gedit'; Second did you try what ubottu said regarding NTFS?
[13:00] <IAmNotThatGuy> ZwIrc, LOL
[13:00] <Janine> I cannot get my mousewheel to work, everything else works but not the vertical scrolling. It is a Logitech VX Nano Wireless. Can anyone help me?
[13:00] <Sidewinder1> !ntfs | krazykrivda
[13:01] <chenthu> krazykrivda: u wanna gedit a file?
[13:01] <ZwIrc> compdoc stiffed? :P
[13:01] <krazykrivda> chenthu: i want to move files there.
[13:02] <wols> Sidewinder1: are you even reading what krazykrivda pasted and asked all this time?
[13:02] <krazykrivda> chenthu: i'm just using gedit as a point of refeerence that even that is not possible w/ sudo
[13:02] <compdoc> ZwIrc, old term - means non payment of funds
[13:03] <szal> ZwIrc: no effing way.  accept it
[13:03] <synapse> whats the apt-get(?) command to check if you have a package installed?
[13:03] <wols> synapse: dpkg -l <package>
[13:03] <ZwIrc> hum?
[13:03] <florin91> And what about me? Can somebody help me?
[13:03] <synapse> thx
[13:03] <krazykrivda> wols: I know nothing about NTFS-3g is that not applicable for my situation?  again this had been working a week or so ago.. then suddenly stopped
[13:03] <chenthu> krazykrivda: ok if u want to edit then dont use the file name just use sudo gedit and when gedit opens u browse to that file and u will be able to edit.... and to move the files....could u please elaborate... i am sorry if i am making u do tis again...but i have to understand ur problem to help u....
[13:04] <szal> ZwIrc: for the last time, you CANNOT recover files deleted from a ramdisk
[13:04] <wols> florin91: ls -l ~/.gnupg
[13:04] <wols> krazykrivda: it's not. Sidewinder1 doesn't know what he's talking about
[13:04] <ZwIrc> but it is a ramdisk then :p
[13:05] <wols> ZwIrc: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tmpfs
[13:05] <florin91> @wols where to post the output ?
[13:05] <wols> !paste | florin91
[13:05] <krazykrivda> chenthu: i have a partition on my harddrive that I use to store basically all of my files/docs.. i use in windows.. and I mount it in ubuntu.. all of a sudden the files partitions mounts.. but i am unable to edit/or mv files there.. but I can browse it as usual
[13:05] <synapse> wols: is it possible to remove drivers with apt?
[13:05] <ZwIrc> ah :/
[13:05] <ZwIrc> so its like the same
[13:06] <Janine> I cannot get my mousewheel to work, everything else works but not the vertical scrolling. It is a Logitech VX Nano Wireless. Can anyone help me?
[13:06] <florin91> http://pastebin.com/rTC2iWVA
[13:06] <wols> synapse: drivers from where? if they are installed as .deb packages yes you can. apt-get remove <package> for example
[13:06] <chenthu> krazykrivda: if u cant move did u try to copy?
[13:06] <krazykrivda> yes
[13:06] <compdoc> Janine, you sure the mouse works?