[12:39] <MichaelSammels> xubuntuuser, I am trying to follow this: http://www.osdever.net/tutorials/pdf/cpp_kernel.pdf
[12:40] <legend2440> Ddorda: in terminal type    gconf-editor  From the left panel,select apps — nautilus — preferences. In the window on the right side,  uncheck the box labeled desktop_is_home_dir.
[12:41] <xubuntuuser> MichaelSammels: Page number ?
[12:41] <ziroday> sectrix: you can ask in ##php
[12:41] <master_> helllo!
[12:42] <MichaelSammels> xubuntuuser, Page 7 (on the sheet, not your PDF Application)
[12:42] <chmac> A friend of mine seems to have borked his install. He's getting bash ls not found errors and other weird stuff
[12:42] <chmac> It seems like parts of his home dir have disappeared
[12:42] <ziroday> chmac: to help him, we will need actual errors
[12:42] <chmac> Is there a howto somewhere on using the "recovery" process?
[12:42] <jrib> chmac: it would be best if he actually joined the channel
[12:42] <ziroday> chmac: if he only messed up his home folder then he could just create a new user and everything should be fine
[12:42] <master_> yes
[12:43] <chmac> ziroday: Yeah, he's managed to log on as another user, but I'm concerned that ls appears to have been deleted
[12:43] <chmac> I'm wondering what other damage has been done
[12:43] <chmac> Ideally, if he can safely check for anything that's "missing" and restore it, I'd do that
[12:43] <sectrix> last try: i have a php5/ubuntu probleme. see http://pastebin.com/m3f001d1
[12:43] <xubuntuuser> MIchaelSammels: Does ld not work?
[12:43] <ziroday> chmac: well as the venerable jrib said, it would be best if joined the channel
[12:44] <master_> I will sign off
[12:44] <FD_F> i have 2 ubuntu machines in local network : i shared one folder how can i mount it (what command use), thanks
[12:44] <MichaelSammels> xubuntuuser, I don't have ld :|
[12:44] <chmac> :)
[12:44] <ziroday> sectrix: did you not see my message about trying in ##php?
[12:44] <histo> !samba | FD_F
[12:44] <histo> FD_F: ignore that.
[12:44] <nado> hi
[12:45] <nado> i got complications mounting a partition so i can read and write it without being root
[12:45] <ActionParsnip1> yo yo yo
[12:45] <jrib> nado: what filesystem?
[12:45] <nado> jrib: ext2
[12:45] <FD_F> histo : the share is between ubuntu & ubuntu
[12:45] <jrib> !permissions > nado
[12:45] <malcolm_> hey is ubuntu 64 bit or 32 bit ?
[12:45] <ActionParsnip1> malcolm_: both
[12:45] <jrib> malcolm_: it's either.  You choose one to install
[12:46] <malcolm_> how do you know which one you installed ? i assume its 64 bit ?
[12:46] <ActionParsnip1> malcolm_: is xp 32bit or 64bit...same answer
[12:46] <jrib> FD_F: how did you share it?
[12:46] <nado> jrib: thanks, i'll see if that helps
[12:46] <ActionParsnip1> malcolm_: depeds which iso you downloaded or ordered
[12:46] <jrib> malcolm_: depends on the iso you downloaded.  You can check with 'uname -m'
[12:46] <FD_F> jrib: right click sharing options
[12:46] <ActionParsnip1> malcolm_: uname -a will show you
[12:47] <jrib> FD_F: then you are using samba.  For me, they just show up when I click on Network Servers in nautilus.  Does that work for you?
[12:47] <ActionParsnip1> malcolm_: look for X86_64 == 64bit
[12:47] <malcolm_> Linux ninety9 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP Wed Aug 20 22:56:21 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[12:47] <FD_F> jrib: thay didnt show
[12:48] <jrib> malcolm_: 32 bit
[12:48] <ActionParsnip1> malcolm_: 32bit for you (i686)
[12:48] <malcolm_> which is better 32 bit or 64 bit ?
[12:48] <ActionParsnip1> malcolm_: depends what the system is for
[12:48] <jrib> FD_F: did you get errors when you shared the folder?
[12:48] <histo> !better | malcolm_
[12:48] <histo> malcolm_: just install 32bit
[12:48] <nado> jrib: the link you sent me contains info about chmod, but i need to know how the line in /etc/fstab should look if i want the partition to be used by not only root but also other users
[12:48] <FD_F> jrib : i didnt get any errors
[12:49] <xubuntuuser> Michael Sammels: ld is a part of gcc i think / google find some pages / search for your distribution
[12:50] <ActionParsnip1> malcolm_: 32bit has better plugin support for internet stuffs and windows games (in my experience) have been less glitchy
[12:50] <stdin> !64bit | malcolm_
[12:50] <ActionParsnip1> malcolm_: 64bit is great for servers if you have a 64bit chip
[12:50] <malcolm_> thanks
[12:50] <FD_F> jrib: you have an alternative share option ?
[12:50] <ActionParsnip1> malcolm_: id do some research as to to what 64bit actually achieves
[12:51] <ActionParsnip1> malcolm_: but a 64bit chip can run a 32bit OS and a 64bit OS can run 32bit apps
[12:51] <nado> /dev/sda1 /mnt/backup ext2 defaults,users,rw 0 0
[12:51] <nado> this should work, or not?
[12:51] <jrib> FD_F: get the local ip for the computer that is sharing and try smb://local_ip in the other computer
[12:51] <negge> jeremiah: histo I got it covered, it was just a matter of adding a new entry to the DNS list...
[12:52] <Spud__> I have a USB wireless-modem.  I stick it in and sudo wvdial.  Any chance of making that happen auto, when I stick it in, or boot with it in?
[12:52] <jeremiah> negge: Cool.
[12:52] <FD_F> jrib: thanks :) works
[12:53] <jrib> Spud__: probably with udev.  But you'll have to do some more reading.  Try googling for "writing udev rules"
[12:53] <Spud__> jrib: thx
[12:53] <mnabil_work> guys what is the interpid repo ?
[12:53] <ActionParsnip1> !startup | Spud_
[12:53] <jay> Hello
[12:53] <mnabil_work> i mean anyone paste me the line
[12:53] <ActionParsnip1> !intrepid | mnabil_work
[12:53] <xubuntuuser> MichaelSammels: I hope you read it, I've to go now. Ciao
[12:54] <jrib> mnabil_work: you can't just use intrepid repos if you are on hardy
[12:54] <malcolm_> has anyone got experience with programming with gcc on ubuntu ?
[12:54] <ActionParsnip1> malcolm_: there are tonnes of C and C++ guides online. Just create a text file and code in that
[12:54] <mnabil_work> jrib, i need only to get a source of a package,  gstreamer 21
[12:55] <rw> I need some help with my wireless connection. It used to be able to handle wep keys without any problems. I then disabled it for a while and now it doesn't want to connect to it. The wep key I use is correct (just used it on my ps3). I also tried in WICD, doesn't work either. What gives?
[12:55] <sorush20> hi
[12:55] <sorush20> do you do amd kernels and linux images ?
[12:55] <nado> i'm trying to mount a partition with the mountpoint being owned by a user. still, after mounting, the owner changes to root and i can't write the drive. what can i do to keep the owner?
[12:55] <jrib> mnabil_work: then for the proper deb-src line, replace "hardy" with "intrepid" and then apt-get source
[12:55] <ziroday> sorush20: if you mean 64bit, then yes
[12:55] <ActionParsnip1> rw: sudo mv /etc/network/interfaces /etc/network/interfaces_old
[12:55] <ActionParsnip1> rw: then reboot
[12:56] <mnabil_work> jrib, ah , thanks
[12:56] <ziroday> mnabil_work: you could also find the package from packages.ubuntu.com and get the source file there
[12:56] <ActionParsnip1> rw: this will remove all settings and on reboot you will be able to revonfigure your connection
[12:56] <rw> ActionParsnip1: done, hope it works.
[12:56] <ActionParsnip1> rw: the mv command allows you to keep the old config just in case
[12:56] <mnabil_work> ziroday, thanks
[12:57] <ActionParsnip1> rw: only delete when you are happy with the new
[12:57] <ActionParsnip1> rw: use this in ALL times you remove old settings and you'll have less problems
[12:58] <w0ls0n> good morning all. I have created a new user for my desktop. How do I grant that user administrative rights?
[12:58] <ActionParsnip1> w0ls0n: add them to the Admin group
[12:58] <ziroday> w0ls0n: you can do that through the users and groups program in System > Administrator > Users and Groups
[12:59] <w0ls0n> when I click unlock, nothing happens
[12:59] <ziroday> w0ls0n: a dialog box should appear asking for your password
[12:59] <sorush20> no I don;'t have linux 64bit but I do have amd cpu and i was wondering if there were any specif builds for those?
[13:00] <w0ls0n> can I just edit /etc/groups ?
[13:00] <ziroday> w0ls0n: you can if you want, you will also need to edit /etc/sudoers but that can be dangerous
[13:00] <ActionParsnip1> sorush20: the 64bit ubuntu will use it well, you could always compile but you'd make a 64bit kernel
[13:00] <w0ls0n> I prefer not to use sudo
[13:00] <w0ls0n> its a PITA
[13:00] <w0ls0n> (Only one user, me :-)
[13:00] <ActionParsnip1> w0ls0n: sudo adduser <username> <groupnametobeaddedto>
[13:01] <w0ls0n> thanks
[13:01] <ziroday> w0ls0n: so you're asking to disable sudo, and basically have a root user?
[13:01] <ActionParsnip1> w0ls0n: sudo makes your system more secure
[13:01] <w0ls0n> no not disable sudo
[13:01] <w0ls0n> as I just said, it's just one user. me
[13:01] <w0ls0n> I'm using it as my backup box
[13:01] <jrib> w0ls0n: what exactly do you dislike about sudo that you want to change?
[13:02] <ActionParsnip1> w0ls0n: if you run groups as a user who can sudo you will be able to see what groups they re in
[13:02] <tajfun19> halo
[13:02] <ActionParsnip1> tajfun19: hi
[13:03] <w0ls0n> ActionParsnip1, I tried "sudo adduser w0ls0n Admin" and I get adduser: The group `Admin' does not exist.
[13:04] <joaopinto> w0ls0n, "admin"
[13:04] <w0ls0n> oops
[13:04] <w0ls0n> kewl
[13:04] <w0ls0n> I should log out and log back in then?
[13:04] <w0ls0n> prob :-)
[13:04] <joaopinto> yes you should
[13:04] <ActionParsnip1> w0ls0n: linux is CaSE SenSitIVe
[13:04] <w0ls0n> LOL
[13:05] <w0ls0n> thanks all
[13:05] <w0ls0n> I am quite happy with ubuntu
[13:05] <w0ls0n> even got VMWare working where FreeBSD cannot
[13:05] <ActionParsnip1> im liking it, I prefer mandriva myself
[13:05] <w0ls0n> I'm loving EXSi though :-D
[13:07] <error404notfound> if I am just creating a apt-proxy server, how much disk space and ram do I need? will 4GB and 64MB RAM be sufficient? It won't have anything else, just a shell and apt-proxy..
[13:08] <ActionParsnip1> error404notfound: is that for the OS?
[13:08] <error404notfound> ActionParsnip1: overall, a ubuntu 8.04 LTS server with just apt-proxy... nothing else...
[13:09] <ActionParsnip1> error404notfound: it depends how many debs its gonna hold, are you going to be running an X server?
[13:10] <error404notfound> ActionParsnip1: nope... as I said, plain shell, and apt-proxy, nothing else... Well I would like to have debs expire after a week, coz we do weekly updates...
[13:11] <w0ls0n_> hello again
[13:11] <ziroday> error404notfound: if you look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements the ram should be fine, you might want more harddrive space though
[13:11] <ActionParsnip1> error404notfound: should be fine then
[13:11] <w0ls0n_> I am getting another error when I try to share something on the desktop. I think it may be samba related?
[13:11] <w0ls0n_>  /msg NickServ identify
[13:11] <dinar> hello
[13:11] <w0ls0n_> 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare: cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. Error Permission denied
[13:11] <ziroday> error404notfound: you may also want to use the minimal installer instead of the server disc
[13:12] <dinar> useradd says unable to lock password file
[13:12] <GNUBoi> hey is therea any company shipping laptops with ubuntu other than to us like dell
[13:12] <error404notfound> ziroday: but I am doing it as a domu/vm inside xen, I don't know if I can do that...
[13:12] <dinar> i am going to restart
[13:12] <ActionParsnip1> GNUBoi: lenovo do it i think. Id just buy a lappy without an OS and install Linux as you require
[13:13] <ziroday> error404notfound: I believe you can, its just like a normal ubuntu however with nothing besides the absolute base installed by default
[13:13] <error404notfound> ziroday: from where can I get the minimal install cd
[13:13] <GNUBoi> ActionParsnip1, does lenovo provide laptop without os
[13:13] <ActionParsnip1> GNUBoi: i elieve so
[13:13] <sorush20> nothing compiles just for amd
[13:13] <ActionParsnip1> GNUBoi: thers always MSI Wind / Asus EEE, OLPC
[13:13] <ziroday> error404notfound: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[13:14] <GNUBoi> that are netbook
[13:14] <ActionParsnip1> sorush20: if you compile a kernel it will be optomised for your cpu
[13:14] <GNUBoi> i am looking for powerful
[13:14] <error404notfound> ziroday: ahan... thanks..
[13:14] <ActionParsnip1> GNUBoi: lenovo would be my first look
[13:14] <sectrix> hi! i've a php/ubuntu question posted here: http://php.pastebin.com/m51a310dd
[13:14] <ziroday> error404notfound: no problem, have fun
[13:14] <GNUBoi> ok
[13:14] <ActionParsnip1> GNUBoi: or websearch for Laptop linux preinstalled
[13:14] <GNUBoi> i did only find dell
[13:14] <GNUBoi> and system 76 they don't ship outside us
[13:15] <ActionParsnip1> GNUBoi: look further, im sure dell arent the only ones
[13:15] <ActionParsnip1> GNUBoi: theres efficientpc here in england
[13:15] <GNUBoi> oh
[13:15] <jeremiah> GNUBoi: Yeah, usually there is a local supplier for Ubuntu
[13:15] <dinar> ok
[13:15] <dinar> i was not root
[13:17] <ziroday> GNUBoi: there is emperor linux, they ship outside of the US, which country are you in?
[13:17] <aguitel> anyway to update to openoffice 3.0 ?
[13:18] <deever> syymi: ?
[13:18] <ziroday> aguitel: yes, using externel debs/repos that were are not supported by the ubuntu developers
[13:18] <ActionParsnip1> aguitel: its alpha right now but http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=728913
[13:19] <aguitel> ziroday, what repo?
[13:19] <ActionParsnip1> aguitel: does OO 2 not work for you/
[13:19] <aguitel> ActionParsnip1, it is working
[13:19] <ziroday> aguitel: you can get them from here http://openoffice.org/
[13:19] <ActionParsnip1> aguitel: then why are you fixing it?
[13:20] <ziroday> ActionParsnip1: and OOO3 has been released
[13:20] <Tommo-dmc> I've got the ubuntu 8.04 live CD running and an old corrupted windows install hdd as a slave on IDE. I'm trying to mount the drive but it keeps failing, is there any particular way of scouring the data or am I buggered?
[13:20] <aguitel> ActionParsnip1, i like to make upgrades
[13:20] <ActionParsnip1> ziroday: cool, i'll update later
[13:21] <histo> Tommo-dmc: how are you trying to mount it?
[13:21] <Tommo-dmc> histo: right-click mount in nautilus ;)
[13:21] <Cosmo-san> hey guys, for some reason I can't get videos to play on any video player:  VLC, Totem, nor Mplayer.  Well, the video stream plays, but there is no audio in Mplayer or VLC. Totem just chugs along at 1 frame per 5 seconds.  It's not the video, and it's probably not all the players going bad, but any suggestions on what to do next?
[13:21] <sectrix> last try! i've a php/ubuntu question posted here: http://php.pastebin.com/m51a310dd
[13:21] <histo> Tommo-dmc: did you try jsut double clicking in nautilus
[13:22] <ziroday> Cosmo-san: the reason vlc and mplayer have no sound could be due to pulseaudio, close all currently running music playing apps and try again
[13:22] <ActionParsnip1> Tommo-dmc: run sudo fdisk -l to see what partition name it uses
[13:22] <histo> Tommo-dmc: I would try mounting from terminal
[13:22] <Cosmo-san> ok
[13:23] <ActionParsnip1> Tommo-dmc: sudo mkdir /media/disk0 && sudo mount /dev/<partition name> /media/disk0 -t ntfs
[13:24] <aguitel> ActionParsnip1, i heard that openoffice 3.0 you can create pdf documents
[13:24] <ActionParsnip1> Tommo-dmc: replace <partition name> with what fdisk -l show you the partition name is
[13:24] <ActionParsnip1> aguitel: you could do that ages ago, you have a pdf printer
[13:25] <aguitel> ActionParsnip1, how modify a pdf document ?
[13:25] <ActionParsnip1> !pdfedit | aguitel
[13:25] <ActionParsnip1> !info pdfedit | aguitel
[13:25] <Tommo-dmc> ActionParsnip1: It says Mount is denied because NTFS is marked to be in use. It is a windows install OS (other partition isn't boot drive but same error) and it did shut down uncleanly, i. failed hdd that i never reinstalled windows on
[13:26] <ActionParsnip1> Tommo-dmc: does it give an output about -force?
[13:26] <tavish> hi
[13:26] <jvargas> hi
[13:27] <Tommo-dmc> ActionParsnip1: Yeah it does, it says if drive isn't a windows drive you can -force it. Will it risk the data if it IS a windows drive and I force it, or is it just a 'warranty' thing in that it could go wrong but still within intended paramaters?
[13:27] <jvargas> i have problems with my vidoe card and ubuntu when using 1440x900 screen resolution.
[13:27] <Tommo-dmc> parameters*
[13:27] <ActionParsnip1> Tommo-dmc: add '-o force' to the end of the command (without the 's)
[13:27] <jvargas> although it looks ok, it is just a little bit fat than how it should be
[13:27] <jvargas> so images and videos looks distorted, just a bit.
[13:27] <jvargas> how do I fix that ?
[13:27] <Tiki> salut
[13:28] <ziroday> jvargas: what video card?
[13:28] <tavish> i am unable to mount my pen drive in ubuntu, it says  mount point cant contain newline or G_dir_seperator
[13:28] <tavish> i need some files off it urgently
[13:29] <COBHC> hiho
[13:29] <ActionParsnip1> tavish: what mount point are you trying to mount to?
[13:29] <tavish> its a pen drive formatted in fat32
[13:29] <ActionParsnip1> tavish: what command are you using to mount it
[13:29] <Tommo-dmc> ActionParsnip1: That worked. Thank you :)
[13:30] <ActionParsnip1> Tommo-dmc: np, cli gives you power!!
[13:30] <tavish> i just double click it or mount it from rightclick menu
[13:30] <ActionParsnip1> tavish: what /dev is the usb stick?
[13:30] <jvargas> ziroday: nvidia, not sure what model, how do I get that info?
[13:30] <ziroday> jvargas: lspci | grep VGA
[13:30] <ActionParsnip1> jvargas: lspci
[13:31] <jvargas> desktop, 2GbnVidia Corporation GeForce 8400 GS
[13:31] <ActionParsnip1> ziroday: if you use grep -i vga it wont be case sensitive
[13:31] <tavish> its dev/sdb
[13:31] <draepis> hi
[13:31] <ziroday> ActionParsnip1: sweet, thanks
[13:31]  * ziroday remembers for next time
[13:32] <ziroday> jvargas: do you have the nvidia drivers installed currently?
[13:32] <jjulian> can somebody tell me what i have to write into a texteditor to replace something with a new line? i tried \r\n but that didnt work he just writes \r\n then
[13:32] <MRFriend> how do i search all files for a word ?
[13:32] <ca> steam  and ubuntu is that working fine?`
[13:32] <chmac> If /bin/ls has been deleted, any easy way to get it back?
[13:32] <COBHC> yes
[13:32] <jrib> jjulian: depends on the editor
[13:32] <tavish> i checked in partition manager. its   dev/sdb/
[13:32] <ziroday> jjulian: which text editor?
[13:32] <jrib> MRFriend: grep with some options
[13:33] <jjulian> geany
[13:33] <jvargas> ziroday: yeah, it says i have some kind of copyright drivers
[13:33] <jvargas> or sth like that
[13:33] <ActionParsnip1> tavish: sudo mkdir /media/stick; sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/stick -t vfat -o rw,user
[13:33] <MRFriend> jrib can you give me an example i really want to search all files under /
[13:33] <ziroday> jvargas: okay thats fine, can you install the package nvidia-settings for me plesae
[13:33] <jrib> jjulian: you have to include that information in your question
[13:33] <jvargas> ziroday: brb
[13:33] <jrib> MRFriend: that would take a really long time.  Why do you want to do this?  grep -R search_term /
[13:33] <ActionParsnip1> MRFriend: do you wanna search for filenames containing a word or within all the files?
[13:33] <jvargas> ziroday: done.
[13:33] <MRFriend> thanks
[13:33] <X-tremAl_Raven> Hi. Can anyone tell me where the /tmp/ physically exists? And how to manage its size?
[13:34] <ca> how about the fps in counter-strike 1.6 on ubuntu?  hardware  p4 3,0 ghz  gfx 6800xt 1 gig memory
[13:34] <jjulian> can somebody tell me what i have to write into a texteditor  (geany) to replace something with a new line? i tried \r\n but that didnt work he just writes \r\n then
[13:34] <ziroday> jvargas: right, open the program up (nvidia-settings) and tell me what resolution its at?
[13:34] <jrib> MRFriend: more likely than not there is a better way to do what you want
[13:34] <chmac> X-tremAl_Raven: /tmp/ is a folder, where it exists depends on where it's mounded, probably on the root partition
[13:34] <chmac> X-tremAl_Raven: When you say "manage its size" what do you mean specifically?
[13:34] <jvargas> ziroday: 1440x900
[13:34] <jvargas> ziroday: resolution is set to auto.
 Where it is mounted by default?
[13:35] <drowner_> so, i ran the XFCE desktop today, and i enjoyed it, was thinking about a permanent switch
[13:35] <drowner_> then it kicked me out to log in
[13:35] <chmac> X-tremAl_Raven: It's not mounted, it's part of the root partition by default
[13:35] <drowner_> back to gnome for me.
[13:35] <ActionParsnip1> jjulian: try echo '\n'
[13:35] <ziroday> jvargas: okay, could you take a screenshot of exactly what the issue is?
[13:35] <ActionParsnip1> drowner_: try fluxbox, you wont be disappointed
 I mean that now I have its size equal to 1Mb. And I didn't find a way to give it more space.
[13:35] <jvargas> ok, it looks just a bit fat, but not so much as with other resolutions, let's see.
[13:35] <jvargas> brb
[13:36] <tavish> it worked, thanx
[13:36] <KaiForce> way off topic, but can anyone recommend a good cable vendor for SAS products?
[13:36] <aldo> aaa
[13:36] <drowner_> ActionParsnip1: can i apt-get the fluxbox desktop? i already have 3
[13:36] <chmac> X-tremAl_Raven: Where do you find that information?
[13:36] <drowner_> i used to have 4, then i gave kde the boot.
[13:36] <tavish> ActionParsnip1: thank you
[13:36] <ActionParsnip1> drowner_: absolutely, then log off, change session type and log on
[13:36] <drowner_> cool
[13:36] <ActionParsnip1> tavish: np man, command line kicks the ass off gui
 In mc: Free space: 988K (96%) of 1024K
[13:37] <drowner_> is flux the one where i click the desktop for a menu, like damnsmall?
 I have an 8.04 upgraded from 7.10
[13:37] <ActionParsnip1> drowner_: yeah, you can run idesk for desktop icons if you want
[13:37] <chmac> X-tremAl_Raven: Where are you getting that from?
[13:37] <chmac> X-tremAl_Raven: What's "In mc:" ?
[13:37] <jurijo> i get check root = bootarg cat /proc/cmdline
[13:37] <drowner_> ActionParsnip1: stupid question, can you beryl the flux?
[13:37] <jim_p> jjulian: are you there? i just got in the house. sorry for the delay
[13:37] <jjulian> no problem
 There's a default file manager - midnight commander.
[13:38] <drowner_> its a stupid question cause i hate beryl and never run it
[13:38] <drowner_> or compiz, whatever its called now
[13:38] <jurijo> i anyone familiar with menu.lst???? i dunno what to set after "root=" :(
[13:38] <jurijo> i get: "check root = bootarg cat /proc/cmdline
[13:38] <jurijo> "
[13:38] <ActionParsnip1> drowner_: no you'd run beryl instead of fluxox
[13:38] <chmac> X-tremAl_Raven: Ok. So I'm not sure what that means, I'm not familiar with midnight commander
[13:38] <chmac> X-tremAl_Raven: Type this `df -h` and see what it says
[13:38] <ActionParsnip1> drowner_: just like you run compiz / beryl instead of metacity
[13:39] <chmac> X-tremAl_Raven: It will list all your active disks and their usage
[13:39] <myk_robinson> morning. New to Gnome, I need to know how to configure the gnome screenshot application. In KDE, i can take a screenshot at my full resolution of 1280*800 and its about 200kb. In Gnome, the screenshot is smaller dimensions, but about 2MB in filesize. Where are the options?
[13:39] <chmac> X-tremAl_Raven: It sounds like midnight commander is misleading you somehow
[13:39] <drowner_> ActionParsnip1: but you can run compiz and flux together?
[13:39] <drowner_> ActionParsnip1: cause i have the enlightenment desktop (its buggy, imo) and you can't beryl that one
[13:40] <ActionParsnip1> drowner_: you cant beryl metacity either, its a replacement WM
[13:40] <drowner_> oh ok
[13:40] <ziroday`> myk_robinson: its because ksnapshot uses .jpg whilst the gnome snapshot app use .png AFAIK there is no way to change this and the best method is to either convert them after making them or use ksnapshot
 Ok. Can you tell me what space available in your /tmp/ directory?
[13:40] <drowner_> ActionParsnip1: so, hang on
[13:40] <jvargas> ziroday`: watch this screenshot:
[13:40] <jvargas> ziroday`: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jvargas/2941625362/sizes/o/
[13:40] <drowner_> ActionParsnip1: why can i beryl gnome and XFCE?
[13:40] <chmac> X-tremAl_Raven: I don't have /tmp mounted as a separate partition, so I have as much space as there is on my main disk
[13:41] <ActionParsnip1> drowner_: gnome is your desktop but metacity is your window manager
[13:41] <myk_robinson> ziroday: thank you
[13:41] <drowner_> ActionParsnip1: and enlightenment is also a WM?
[13:41] <jvargas> ziroday`: and take a look at images, they look wide.
[13:41] <ActionParsnip1> drowner_: so if you install fluxbox, you can run gnome apps but with the slimline desktop
 Are you ABSOLUTELY sure?
[13:41] <ziroday`> jvargas:does this only happen in firefox?
[13:41] <drowner_> ActionParsnip1: and it won't boot me out like XFCE did earlier? LOL
[13:42] <chmac> X-tremAl_Raven: Yes, what did df -h tell you?
[13:42] <jjulian> jim_p i tried several things like installing new alsa and the 18rc3 version none of them got me sound
 overflow              1.0M   36K  988K   4% /tmp
 And what does df -h tell you?
[13:42] <chmac> X-tremAl_Raven: Then you have /tmp mounted separately
[13:42] <jim_p> jjulian: :O
[13:43] <chmac> X-tremAl_Raven: Try running `mount` and see what output you get
[13:43] <chmac> X-tremAl_Raven: Or try `mount | grep "on /tmp"`
[13:43] <chmac> X-tremAl_Raven: Without the backticks :)
[13:43] <ibrahim_> Hello , are there any msn client supported direct file transfer except Amsn because of ugly interface? Thanks in advance
[13:43] <chmac> X-tremAl_Raven: but with the quotes :)
[13:43] <jjulian> jim_p the only thing i got to work is really crackling low nearly silent sound on one of the outputs via model=acer-aspire and on  soe others worked too
[13:43] <jvargas> ziroday`: not sure, the rest of icons on ubuntu look ok, can't say too bad.
 overflow on /tmp type tmpfs (rw,size=1048576,mode=1777)
[13:43] <drowner_> ibrahim_: pidgin?
[13:44] <ziroday`> jvargas: hmm, because this looks very much like a firefox rendering issue, the icons above look fine
[13:44] <ibrahim_> drowner_ , yes it is the best but unfortunately does not support direct file transfer which rates up to 2-3 kb/s
[13:44] <jim_p> jjulian: what was the original problem again? i think it was not sound
[13:45] <jvargas> ziroday`: but, if I try other lower resolutions, for all of them things look fatter.
[13:45] <chmac> X-tremAl_Raven: Not sure what an overflow mount is I'm afraid :(
[13:45] <jjulian> jim_p the ram but i dont care about it :)
[13:45] <jvargas> ziroday`: so, 1440x900 is the only one that looks a bit better.
[13:45] <chmac> X-tremAl_Raven: Maybe somebody else can help. I'm pretty sure the default is not to mount /tmp separately though
[13:45] <ThePandemic82> how long does a internal hard drive usually last?  in years
[13:45] <jim_p> jjulian: ok. so what does lspci say?
[13:45] <danbh_intrepid> chmac: mount /tmp?  where do you want it mounted?
 All was set by default. Nobody has touched it.
[13:45] <ziroday`> jvargas: however the distortion only happens in firefox
[13:46] <drowner_> ActionParsnip1: you are ignoring my private msg. that's ok, your're a busy (wo)man
[13:46] <jim_p> ThePandemic82: from personal experience 4-5 years
[13:46] <chmac> ThePandemic82: Depends on the disk, I wouldn't bet on it after 3 years for critical data...
[13:46] <ThePandemic82> ah ic
[13:46] <chmac> danbh_intrepid: X-tremAl_Raven is having an issue where /tmp is mounted as "overflow" and only has 1MiB available
[13:46] <tavish> http://rafb.net/p/ecIVcO99.html
[13:46] <ThePandemic82> the type of hdd i have is a seagate.  is that a decent brand?
[13:46] <jurijo> i anyone familiar with menu.lst???? i dunno what to set after "root=" :( i get: "check root = bootarg cat /proc/cmdline
[13:46] <malcolm_> anyone know of a good site to learn the basics of linux ?
[13:46] <XB23> hey guys are there any shell commands i can type to track down why users are getting lags on my box?
[13:46] <chmac> Anyone know what an "overflow" mount is? for X-tremAl_Raven
[13:46] <peng__> 123
[13:47] <joaopinto> malakhi, help.ubuntu.com
[13:47] <jjulian> jim_p thats lscpi http://pastebin.com/m66dfe371
[13:47] <jrib> ThePandemic82: seagate usually guarantees theirs for 5 years.  I've had luck with seagates
[13:47] <ThePandemic82> cool
[13:47] <jjulian> jim_p, windows and manufacturer page says: ALC888S chip
[13:47] <jvargas> ziroday`: just noted something... my monitor spec says it works at 1440x900 using 60Hz, and ubuntu says it is using 51Hz
[13:47] <danbh_intrepid> X-tremAl_Raven: maybe you could paste the results of mount
[13:47] <ziroday`> jvargas: can you change it to 60Hz?
[13:47] <chmac> X-tremAl_Raven: To a pastebin, not here
[13:47] <jvargas> ziroday`: how do I change that permanently'
[13:47] <drowner_> chmac: nice save
[13:47] <ThePandemic82> what is a good program for dvd authoring?
[13:47] <chmac> drowner_: :)
[13:48] <zamba> i'm looking for 0.9.4 of vlc.. where can i find that?
[13:48] <XB23> hey guys are there any shell commands i can type to track down why users are getting lags on my box?
[13:48] <jvargas> ziroday`: not from config dialog, 60Hz option is not displayed.
[13:48] <peng__> Who can tell me how to play QQ on ubuntu?
[13:48] <jim_p> jjulian: what does alsa say?
[13:48] <chmac> danbh_intrepid: overflow on /tmp type tmpfs (rw,size=1048576,mode=1777)
[13:48] <jvargas> and i am afraid ubuntu replaces my xorg config when I restart
[13:48] <chmac> danbh_intrepid: X-tremAl_Raven pasted that earlier
[13:48] <ziroday`> jvargas: hmm, then it is most likely on the correct option already if that option is not available. I need to go now sorry
[13:48] <jim_p> jjulian: 00:07.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0774 (rev a1)
[13:49] <danbh_intrepid> chmac: well, I suppose that means that he is out of ram, right?
[13:49] <ziroday`> jvargas: and for what its worth, I think its a firefox rendering issue
[13:49] <jjulian> jim_p thats the second sound card for hdmi output
[13:49] <jim_p> jjulian: why unknown? you said its a laptop roght?
[13:49] <jvargas> ziroday`: ok thank u so much
[13:49] <w0ls0n_>  hello all. I am using ubuntu desktop and I created a new user and logged in as that user. When I do that, I am trying to create a share and I am getting an error that says
[13:49] <w0ls0n_> 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare: cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. Error Permission denied
[13:49] <ziroday`> jvargas: sorry, I couldn't help you more.
[13:49] <chmac> danbh_intrepid: Not sure, I didn't think /tmp was mounted in ram, but I don't know what an "overflow" mount is...
[13:49] <jim_p> jjulian: what is the 1st?
[13:49] <chmac> Nothing in the man page for "overflow"
[13:50] <danbh_intrepid> chmac: well, my /tmp isnt mounted to ram either, but I've heard about tmpfs
[13:50] <chmac> danbh_intrepid: `mount | grep tmpfs | wc -l` gives me 5
[13:51] <ThePandemic82> what are the keyboard shortcuts for copy and paste in ubuntu?
[13:51] <chmac> danbh_intrepid: varrun, varlock, udev, devshm, lrm
[13:51] <chmac> But no overflow...
[13:51] <XB23> guys how can i clear up unused cpu memory?
[13:51] <jim_p> Theaxiom: ctrl+c ctrl+v
[13:51] <chmac> XB23: It clears itself
[13:51] <XB23> ah
 I did "sudo mount -o bind /var/tmp /tmp" and  now df -h shows "overflow               31G   31G     0 100% /tmp" Da hell does that mean?
[13:52] <jjulian> jim_p, http://pastebin.com/m2c20b98e
[13:52] <chmac> XB23: `free -m` will tell you about how much memory is used
[13:52] <jjulian> jim_p,  some information to my soundcard but my manufacturer says Realtek ALC888S chip
[13:52] <chmac> X-tremAl_Raven: I think you just mounted /tmp as a bind mount to /var/tmp
[13:52] <chmac> X-tremAl_Raven: That means that /tmp is really just /var/tmp with a different name (I'm paraphrasing, I don't really understand bind mounts)
 I understand. But why it is now flooded by 31Gb of some files?
[13:53] <chmac> X-tremAl_Raven: It means that now you have lots of free space in /tmp :)
[13:53] <chmac> X-tremAl_Raven: Hmm, it's more than likely not
[13:53] <jim_p> jjulian: its a laptop right? the nvidia thing is possibly the default hda output while the conexat one is a modem for sure
[13:53] <chmac> X-tremAl_Raven: Can you pastebin your whole `df -h` and `mount` outputs?
[13:53] <jjulian> there are "three" soundcards or kind of
[13:54] <chmac> That would be a nice ubottu rule, to listen for any mention of paste and suggest pastebin...
[13:54] <jjulian> jim_p a realtek 3 channel (left right) and a spdif and a nvidia for hdmi and probably the modem
[13:55] <jim_p> jjulian: let me look at alsa wiki
[13:55] <dcomxx>  hello ! i got a question that might sound stupid .. but this is the first time im using ubuntu ,, i try to run a compiled c program but nothing happends ! what am i doing wrong ?
[13:56] <jrib> dcomxx: pastebin the commands you ran and the output
[13:56] <jrib> !pastebin | dcomxx
 So far just mounted to my ~/tmp/ directory. Anyway thanx for your help.
[13:56] <dcomxx> the program works on windows i already tried
[13:56] <malcolm_> is it an exe ?
[13:56] <dcomxx> i just compile it as standart a.out with gcc
[13:57] <jrib> dcomxx: you need to actually tell us the commands you run for us to help you
[13:57] <dcomxx> just gcc name.c
[13:57] <Ilokaasu> When using "intel" driver my laptops own screen shuts down and the picture comes out only from the external screen (trough vga port). Any idea how to fix this ?
[13:57] <dcomxx> which gives me a a.out
[13:58] <jrib> dcomxx: and then?
[13:58] <error404notfound> does the ubuntu minimal CD need a graphical session to install
[13:58] <dcomxx> mm i forgot the command to start an app -.-
[13:58] <jrib> !minimal | error404notfound
[13:58] <dcomxx> i justed typed the output name ...
[13:59] <jrib> dcomxx: you have to give the path to the executable.   ./a.out   since . is not in the default PATH
[13:59] <error404notfound> jrib: my question was different. I said does it need a graphical session to install? I mean those blue and red menus and buttons that I see in ubuntu-server install
[13:59] <jrib> error404notfound: the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD   (no, no gui)
[14:00] <dcomxx> why doesnt it start when i click on execute in file browser ...
[14:00] <jim_p> jjulian: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Vendor-Nvidia
[14:00] <jrib> dcomxx: did running it from a shell work?
[14:00] <dcomxx> i was in the folder and then typed a.out but nothing ..
[14:00] <jjulian> jim_p i tell you its not a nvidia its a realtek chip
[14:01] <jrib> dcomxx: as I said: you need to type:  ./a.out
[14:01] <jrib> !who | dcomxx
[14:01] <dcomxx> mm ok
[14:02] <chmac> X-tremAl_Raven: If you check /etc/fstab, see if /tmp is mounted in there
[14:02] <Syrion> :D
[14:03] <chmac> X-tremAl_Raven: If it is, you can probably just add a # to the start of that line (comment it out) and then /tmp will just be a regular folder on root (/)
[14:03] <chmac> X-tremAl_Raven: If you want to pastebin /etc/fstab as well as `df -h` and `mount`, that would be helpful. Otherwise, if you're happy, I'm happy. :)
[14:04] <jim_p> jjulian: where is realtek in there?
[14:04] <jjulian> the normal soundcard which sents sound to speakers and jacks is a realtek HD audio
[14:04] <jim_p> jjulian: i mean in the alsa page
[14:06] <jjulian> on the page you gave me i can just go to nvidia and they provide no links for me
[14:06] <jjulian> jim_p,  or no downloads
[14:06] <jim_p> jjulian: these are not downloads, these are guides. where is realtek here http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Main ?
[14:07] <jjulian> this site: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Vendor-Nvidia just provides nvidia as website where i probably should download my driver but nvidia got no
[14:08] <jim_p> jjulian: you are supposed to click on the "nForce-430 and later" link
[14:08] <jim_p> jjulian: no! you dont download drivers from sites
 It's not in fstab. For now it's working this way. :)
[14:09] <ThePandemic82> What program can i download that's good for DVD authoring???????????????
[14:09] <Sobaka> Hello people. I have to rename all files ending on .JPG to .jpg. I tried to do this with "mv *.JPG *.jpg", but then I get the error mv: target `*.jpg' is not a directory. What am I doing wrong here?
[14:09] <Xsist> Why not download from Nvidas Download Page?
[14:09] <X-tremAl_Raven> Can anyone tell how to over come the "Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0" problem? Google knows nothing useful about it.
[14:10] <Xsist> ohh that GTK Warning thing i got on windows
[14:10] <Xsist> a reinstall of Gtk fixed it
[14:10] <ThePandemic82> what does Gtk stand for?
[14:11] <jjulian> jim_p the nFore-430 later link sents me to nvidia.com which provides no further information or driver so this is a dead end
[14:11] <ActionParsnip1> Sobaka: try http://tips.webdesign10.com/how-to-bulk-rename-files-in-linux-in-the-terminal
[14:11] <jim_p> jjulian: click on Details!!!
[14:11] <Xsist> ThePandemic82: It's a ui libaray
[14:11] <incandenza> Sobaka: try this: for i in *.JPG; do mv $i `basename $i .JPG`.jpg; done
[14:11] <ThePandemic82> oh ok
[14:11] <zamba> where can i find packports of vlc to hardy?
[14:11] <Sobaka> ThePandemic82: I have heard good things about DeVeDe for Dvd Authoring
[14:12] <CyD> what's the command line tool that gives a menu for installing sets of software such as web server, dns server, etc?
[14:12] <ThePandemic82> thanks
[14:12] <Xsist> nå
[14:12] <Xsist> np
[14:12] <thiebaude> CyD:there is sudo aptitude
[14:13] <thiebaude> CyD:i dont know if you want that
[14:13] <Xsist> apt -get?
[14:13] <CyD> thiebaude: not quite, much appreciated though
[14:14] <ActionParsnip1> CyD: see which aps give those services and install th epps via cli
[14:14] <ActionParsnip1> !dns
[14:14] <ActionParsnip1> !apache
[14:14] <thiebaude> CyD:yw
[14:14] <ActionParsnip1> !find dns
[14:14] <Xsist> !apt
[14:14] <jurijo> i anyone familiar with menu.lst???? i dunno what to set after "root=" :(
[14:15] <CyD> ActionParsnip1: thanks, i have no problem installing the individual components, but the utility i'm trying to remember is very handy to use, brings up a curses menu with preselected software sets. same thing you see when installing ubuntu server
[14:15] <Xsist> CyD: i hope it solves you question
[14:15] <ActionParsnip1> jurijo: thats the partition that holds the boot info
[14:15] <thiebaude> CyD:did you try synaptic?
[14:15] <thiebaude> did
[14:16] <jurijo> ActionParsnip1 what do i need to se there
[14:16] <john__> my toshiba notebook locks up when trying to run an "extended Desktop"
[14:16] <jurijo> ???
[14:16] <ActionParsnip1> jurijo: http://www-uxsup.csx.cam.ac.uk/~fanf2/hermes/src/grub-e1000/docs/menu.lst
[14:16] <ActionParsnip1> jurijo: theres an example
[14:16] <CyD> Xsist: thanks for the help
[14:16] <jurijo> ActionParsnip1 can you give me some help
[14:16] <jurijo> what should i write?
[14:16] <Parabola> john__ are you using the laptop as the 2nd display?
[14:17] <Xsist> CyD: No problems
[14:17] <jurijo> ActionParsnip1?
[14:17] <ActionParsnip1> jurijo: try running update-grub
[14:17] <zeeen> CyD -   tasksel
[14:17] <john__> I don't get the option, as soon as I uncheck the "Clone Displays" box it pops up a box with nothing in it and locks up
[14:18] <ActionParsnip1> jurijo: ive not had to do it before but there are a tonne of helps
[14:18] <ActionParsnip1> jurijo: man menu.lst work any?
[14:18] <CyD> zeeen: thank you!!!
[14:18] <koto> j/zamosc
[14:18] <koto> j /zamosc
[14:18] <angga> alow
[14:18] <john__> i am using the "monitor resolution settings"
[14:18] <Plz> I have a Fujitsu Siemens E8110 laptop with 1gb ram and 2x Intel T2400 1,83GHz. If I buy 2gb ram more so I got 3gb ram, will I see a hughe diffrence in how fast my laptop runs?
[14:19] <Plz> or should I buy the new mac that comes today?
[14:19] <Plz> what do you guys suggest?
[14:19] <Frogzoo> Plz: you probly will see no difference, unless you're running a lot of apps
[14:19] <ActionParsnip1> Plz: it'll allow you to run more applications at the same time
[14:19] <Xsist> Plz: If you playing games like WoW it will make huge diffrence
[14:20] <danbh_intrepid> Plz: do you ever use swap?
[14:20] <Plz> hmm..ok. Thank you :D
[14:20] <dcomxx> how do i use relative path names for includes ? :S   /include/name.h   doesnt work
[14:20] <sqawarlz> !ftp
[14:20] <Xsist> !Gnome
[14:20] <Plz> danbh_intrepid: Yes... but right now I got 1,7mb swap.
[14:21] <Plz> I`ll see how much I use when I start a few more programs.
[14:21] <danbh_intrepid> Plz: in use?  Ram can be pretty cheap, you may wana grab the extra ram anyway
[14:21] <jurijo> ActionParsnip1 no :(
[14:22] <Plz> Yeah.. just saw 2gb ram very very cheap.
[14:22] <danbh_intrepid> get it
[14:22] <Plz> 50 euro or so :D
[14:22] <Plz> for 2gb ram.
[14:22] <danbh_intrepid> Plz: hold on, that aint cheap!!!  but maybe it is for you : )
[14:23] <ActionParsnip1> yeah thats pretty ok
[14:23] <ActionParsnip1> danbh_intrepid: are you from USA?
[14:23] <Plz> well, I live in Norway.
[14:23] <w0ls0n> any samba experts around?
[14:23] <Plz> Nothing is cheap here.
[14:23] <danbh_intrepid> ActionParsnip1: yeah
[14:23] <ikonia> w0ls0n what's up
[14:23] <w0ls0n_>  hello all. I am using ubuntu desktop and I created a new user and logged in as that user. When I do that, I am trying to create a share and I am getting an error that says
[14:23] <w0ls0n_> 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare: cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. Error Permission denied
[14:23] <Plz> We pay 25% taxes on everything here in Norway.
[14:23] <ActionParsnip1> danbh_intrepid: makes sense, your USD are weak compared to euros
[14:23] <Plz> Sucks tbh.
[14:23] <dragon1964> ow
[14:23] <ikonia> Plz maybe take this up in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:23] <bullgard4> 'paplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav' functions. 'paplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav' does not function. How to repair?
[14:23] <ActionParsnip1> danbh_intrepid: so converting it to USD will seem expensive
[14:24] <Plz> ikonia: ok. I got my answer now anyway. Sorry
[14:24] <ActionParsnip1> w0ls0n gksudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[14:24] <bullgard4> 'aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav' functions. 'paplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav' does not function. How to repair?
[14:24] <Xsist> Plz: Here in sweden I bought 4gb for 350SEK or like 50$
[14:24] <ActionParsnip1> w0ls0n_ edit that file and restart samba, sharing is now done
[14:24] <ikonia> bullgard4 you said
[14:24] <ikonia> bullgard4: you can't repair sounds, you'll have to re-install them, but make sure they are not working and it's not just your media player/settings
[14:25] <Cosmo-san> what is the default Ubuntu CD burning program?
[14:25] <ActionParsnip1> !burning | Cosmo-san
[14:26] <Plz> Xsist: Probably not so-dimm ram, as I need in my laptop.
[14:26] <ikonia> Plz: - please
[14:26] <Xsist> plz: No thats true
[14:26] <bullgard4> Cosmo-san: In 8.04 it is Brasero
[14:26] <Xsist> !bullgard
[14:27] <Xsist> hehe
[14:27] <ActionParsnip1> !info bullguard
[14:28] <w0ls0n> got it!
[14:28] <versus> hi, I run a ubuntu hardy laptop and would like to install ubuntu onto a usb stick. Is there a way to do this without cd?
[14:28] <ActionParsnip1> w0ls0n: way easier than the gui way isnt it :D
[14:28] <Plz> Is it possible to make ctrl + alt + del to start systemmonitor like in Windows?
[14:28] <w0ls0n> WAYYYY easier!
[14:28] <Plz> Now it just ask me if I want to change user or logg off.
[14:28] <Plz> Not very usefull.
[14:28] <ActionParsnip1> w0ls0n: its like that for most things dude, gui is weak
[14:29] <w0ls0n> I would like to know what the gui did though
[14:29] <w0ls0n> I juct checked the box for allowing the user to share
[14:29] <ActionParsnip1> w0ls0n: i think it edits that same file but ive never liked doing it that way
[14:29] <Xsist> Piz: I dont know but i have it so
[14:29] <Xsist> i dont know what dist but i have it so.
[14:30] <ActionParsnip1> Plz: you can configure keyboard shortcuts
[14:30] <Plz> hmm.. I got 8.10 at the moment.
[14:30] <Plz> ActionParsnip1: Where do I do that?
[14:30] <ActionParsnip1> Plz: intrepid support is in +1
[14:30] <Plz> Yes, but I guess it`s the same anyway.
[14:31] <ActionParsnip1> Plz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KeyboardShortcuts
[14:31] <Plz> THank you
[14:31] <ActionParsnip1> Plz: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42404
[14:32] <ganesh> i installed ubuntu 64 on hp compaq desktop, not nogging in...its coming back to login screen..how do i fix it?
[14:32] <cads> I am having some trouble with my firefox, where each time I start it, there are the intro screens to several of my firefox extensions, as if I had just installed them, and also the tabs from last session are not saved
[14:32] <bobbob1016> My desktop recently wouldn't recognize my keyboard.  I have it on a KVM with a mac.  Through some playing with cables I got it working.  However now I can't hold backspace to delete a line, it doesn't repeat.  Any ideas?
[14:33] <cads> I have used apt-get to uninstall firefox-3.0, but upon reinstallation, the situation is the same
[14:33] <ActionParsnip1> ganesh: are you running intrepid?
[14:33] <ActionParsnip1> cads: try renaming ~/.mozilla to something else, thats where settings are held
[14:33] <cads> I'll see what that does
[14:33] <ganesh> ActionParsnip1:what is it?
[14:33] <ActionParsnip1> ganesh: ~/.mozilla
[14:34] <ActionParsnip1> ganesh: cd ~/ && mv .mozilla .mozilla_old && firefox &
[14:34] <Vladimir[LV]> Hello. I have detached from the 5503 screen. How i can kill it?
[14:35] <ganesh> ActionParsnip1:i just installed ubuntu and after rebooting its not logging in
[14:35] <ActionParsnip1> ganesh: if its still not good, rename it back
[14:35] <Vladimir[LV]> found.. screen kill x)
[14:35] <Sensei_> hi there
[14:35] <ActionParsnip1> cads: cd ~/ && mv .mozilla .mozilla_old && firefox &
[14:35] <ActionParsnip1> ganesh: sorry wrong target
[14:35] <indian_munnda> Vladimir[LV]: do ps -e and check the job id of that and just kill it
[14:35] <versus> hi, I run a ubuntu hardy laptop and would like to install ubuntu onto a usb stick. Is there a way to do this without cd?
[14:35] <ActionParsnip1> ganesh: intrepid is the alph release of ubuntu, hardy is the current stable
[14:35] <Sensei_>  i'm trying to remove the windows asking you for a password when waking up the computer from sleep
[14:36] <Sensei_> can someone help?
[14:36] <cads> ActionParsnip1: heh, I know how to move a folder
[14:36] <cads> and it worked!
[14:36] <versus> using online repositories for example
[14:36] <ActionParsnip1> cads: i assume nothing, no offence
[14:36] <cads> I thank you, action parsnip :)
[14:36] <ActionParsnip1> cads: there is such a range of ability in here I start at the bottom
[14:36] <ActionParsnip1> cads: np man
[14:36] <ganesh>  ActionParsnip1:i downloaded ubuntu 8.04 hardy lts for amd 64
[14:36] <versus> like this install button you can see on the live cd system
[14:36] <Vladimir[LV]> indian_munnda: hm.. ok, thanks. but how i can attach to some program, that are running in background? (e.g. eggdrop)
[14:37] <cads> I was worried that I'd have to mess with /usr/lib/mozilla
[14:37] <ActionParsnip1> ganesh: sweet then you should be ok
[14:37] <ganesh> even in live cd it comes back to login screen..
[14:37] <ActionParsnip1> cads: nar, 9 time of 10 you just have to strip config back to default and it works
[14:37] <kwyjibo> what should i install to be able to compile applications?
[14:37] <UbTu2> having a problem with remote ssh and Ubuntu server
[14:37] <indian_munnda> Vladimir[LV]: sorry didn't get you right. What u want to do with a background process?
[14:37] <UbTu2> "Error opening termina: dtterm"
[14:37] <ActionParsnip1> ganesh: id check your ram for issues
[14:38] <Vladimir[LV]> indian_munnda: attach to it..
[14:38] <UbTu2> how do I fix that? seems to be in TERM
[14:38] <indian_munnda> Vladimir[LV]: sorry i don't that
[14:39] <UbTu2> I try to open up pico / nano and it gives me the dtterm error... thinking it's related to direction of the terminal output like tty
[14:39] <ganesh>  ActionParsnip1:in live cd it shows examples,install, and no manu bar....i can run windows
[14:39] <ActionParsnip1> UbTu2: http://unix.derkeiler.com/Newsgroups/comp.unix.solaris/2005-12/msg01807.html
[14:39] <ActionParsnip1> ganesh: did you download the desktop iso
[14:40] <ganesh> ActionParsnip1:yes its desktop version
[14:40] <usicow> I've got a bash script which runs another program which writes to a log directory. My problem is that even if I run the script with sudo, the program that the .sh file runs cant write to the log directory. How come?
[14:40] <ActionParsnip1> ganesh: then boot it to live environment (try ubuntu without making changes)
[14:40] <ActionParsnip1> usicow: did you put sudo in the script?
[14:41] <usicow> ActionParsnip1: No.. the reason is because eventually it'll be cron that runs this script..
[14:41] <ActionParsnip1> usicow: you need to put sudo in the script but if you run it with sudo it will be authenticated for the whole script
[14:41] <ganesh> ActionParsnip1:ya in that itself its coming back to loggin screen, hence i directly installed, but same problem
[14:41] <kwyjibo> can someone suggest what should i install to be able to compile applications?
[14:42] <ActionParsnip1> ganesh: theres a ram tester on the cd, try it
[14:42] <genii> kwyjibo: package build-essential
[14:42] <usicow> ActionParsnip1: if cron runs it though I cant put sudo in the script can I? I mean cron runs it under its own username right?
[14:42] <ActionParsnip1> kwyjibo: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[14:42] <ganesh> ActionParsnip1:where ?
[14:42] <kwyjibo> genii, ActionParsnip1: thanks
[14:42] <ActionParsnip1> usicow: theres a way to make it not need sudo for some stuffs
[14:42] <ActionParsnip1> !compile | kwyjibo
[14:43] <Xsist> On nothing what you guys know of putty?
[14:43] <ActionParsnip1> Xsist: yeah, what of it?
[14:43] <Xsist> I got problems to accses to a ubuntu
[14:43] <ganesh> ActionParsnip1: i can loggin through failsafe terminal mode..
[14:43] <usicow> ActionParsnip1: maybe theres a better way to do this? The log directory is owned by mongrel:mongrel.. and I want cron to run a script that will write to that directory.. how can I get it so that it'll have access to write to that directory?
[14:44] <mxtian> anyone have an issue with pidgin freezing up in 8.10?
[14:44] <ActionParsnip1> usicow: chmod so that you have access, you could add yourself to the mongel group then let group members have read and execute access but owner to have full access
[14:45] <ActionParsnip1> !intrepid | mxtian
[14:45] <mini-Arnold> why is it impossible to enter your home dir when you've upgraded ubuntu?
[14:45] <Xsist> When i try enter password it dont show anything and i when i write anyway i gives wrong password
[14:45] <mxtian> thank you
[14:45] <usicow> ActionParsnip1: ok cool thanks
[14:45] <Xsist> !putty
[14:45] <prodigel> ActionParsnip1, if I ask you about a keyboard problem in 8.10 you'll answer me the same as to mxtian?   It ends thus: RUN+="/bin/sh -c 'wvdial TATA &'" My udev manual warns that if the rule executes some code that deoesnt terminate, this hangs the whole process.  So I've put in an & to make it fork.  Is this correct?  Also it should execute as rootuser.  Is it going to do that automatically?
[14:47] <kompi06> gim
[14:47] <hanoi> any game  dont have sounds
[14:47] <ActionParsnip1> ganesh: run an fsck as well as a ram check on your system
[14:47] <strAlan> then you need to adjust your sound settings in System -> Preferences -> Sound
[14:48] <strAlan> try selecting different audio drivers
[14:48] <prodigel> ActionParsnip1, isn't it rc ?
[14:48] <prodigel> ActionParsnip1, yet?
[14:48] <hanoi> okay thxs
[14:48] <ganesh>  ActionParsnip1:what is fsck ? and how can i do that?
[14:48] <Xsist> ActionParsnip1: Thanks
[14:48] <ActionParsnip1> prodigel: rc is 30th Oct
[14:48] <thiebaude> !fsck
[14:48] <ActionParsnip1> ganesh: its like scandisk
[14:48] <strAlan> Spud_, can you post this on UF?
[14:48] <ActionParsnip1> ganesh: run memory check from grub boot to check that first
[14:49] <Spud_> strAlan: What's UF?
[14:49] <ganesh> ActionParsnip1:its not the problem with one computer.. i tried it on 4 similar kind of computer
[14:49] <strAlan> Spud_, ubuntuforums
[14:49] <mini-Arnold> if you startup your PC is a home dir made at that moment in time?
[14:49] <ActionParsnip1> ganesh: did you install those 4 from the same cd?
[14:49] <ActionParsnip1> mini-Arnold: its made at first logon
[14:50] <Xsist> ActionParsnip1: I wroted username with big W insted of w so it was why the error ucurd
[14:50] <ActionParsnip1> Xsist: linux is CAse SenSitIvE
[14:51] <ActionParsnip1> Xsist: for everything
[14:51] <ganesh> yes..first i tried with 32 bit and then 64..but in both the cases it comes back to loggin window
[14:51] <ActionParsnip1> Xsist: you can make you life WAY easier by never using caps
[14:51] <ActionParsnip1> ganesh: do you md5 check the iso file you download as well as check the cd for defects?
[14:52] <sparr> "startx -- :1" from within my existing X yields "Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console".  from a real console it works and launches gnome.  two questions.  1)  how do i get rid of that error?  2) how do i make another WM the default for startx?
[14:53] <ganesh>  ActionParsnip1: yes i even chcked cd for deffects..
[14:53] <Spud_> strAlan: Sure, I'm going there now.  But why?  Because it could be useful to people?
[14:53] <ganesh> ActionParsnip1: memory check gave me no error
[14:56] <ActionParsnip1> ganesh: run fsck on your hard drive to test if its healthy too
[14:56] <ActionParsnip1> ganesh: did yu md5 check the iso you downloaded
[14:56] <strAlan> Spud_, I just think something of that magnitude would be better to have documented than in a quick-answer IRC room
[14:57] <amanu> hi all i have just undergone with a crash of by synaptic package manager i would like to recover it
[14:57] <Xsist> What is the linux replacement for dir commmand
[14:57] <ActionParsnip1> Xsist: ls
[14:57] <Pici> Xsist: ls
[14:57] <Xsist> cant remember it
[14:57] <Xsist>  Ty
[14:57] <Pici> !cli > Xsist
[14:57] <ActionParsnip1> Xsist: you could make an alias for it if you want
[14:58] <ganesh>  ActionParsnip1:hard disk is healthy because i was using windows and its working ferfectly fine
[14:58] <XB23> whats the easiest way to check if sudo exists and is installed correctly?
[14:58] <ActionParsnip1> ganesh: if you can boot to cli id try dmesg to see what it says
[14:58] <ActionParsnip1> XB23: try it
[14:58] <ActionParsnip1> XB23: sudo apt-get update
[14:58] <XB23> no i mean from a script
[14:59] <XB23> im trying to do a check if sudo exists
[14:59] <XB23> if so the script continues if not it dies
[14:59] <ActionParsnip1> XB23: im on windows now so cant test, try: which sudo
[14:59] <jegan> hai ... how to install desklets and screenlets ????
[14:59] <XB23> kk
[14:59] <ganesh> ActionParsnip1:what is " cli id"i didnt get u
[14:59] <amanu> ActionParsnip1:can you remember me last time asked for installing all  *.deb files in my ubuntu you suggested me this sudo dpkg -i /path/tp/*.deb
[14:59] <zamba> i want two programs to record from /dev/dsp at the same time.. how can i do this?
[14:59] <ActionParsnip1> ganesh: as you can boot to cli, run dmesg
[14:59] <ActionParsnip1> !cli | ganesh
[15:00] <SlimeyPete> "CLI I'd..."
[15:00] <jegan> how to install desklets and screenlets ????
[15:00] <r00tintheb0x> jegan, by researching it on google.
[15:00] <arvind_khadri> !screenlets | jegan
[15:00] <XB23> how can i remove sudo
[15:00] <XB23> then reinstall it
[15:00] <XB23> to test it
[15:01] <jegan> thanks !!!
[15:01] <Pici> XB23: You don't want to do that.
[15:01] <XB23> oh
[15:01] <ActionParsnip1> XB23: ive never tried and wouldnt dare try
[15:01] <XB23> well i dont use sudo to get root anyway
[15:01] <XB23> i use su password
[15:01] <mini-Arnold> ActionParsnip1
[15:01] <trilobit`> XB23: unless you're confident enough to enable root login and then try. But DON'T.
[15:02] <trilobit`> XB23: oh you have already
[15:02] <amanu> im gtting this error when im configuring my synaptic can any one suggest me http://paste.ubuntu.com/57445/
[15:02] <XB23> yeh
[15:02] <mini-Arnold> ActionParsnip1
[15:02] <Pici> XB23: Use test to see if the location of sudo exists. or try running sudo with an argument like -h and look for error codes with test.
[15:02] <ActionParsnip1> mini-Arnold: sup
[15:02] <XB23> k
[15:02] <mini-Arnold> how can I go back to ubuntu instead of knoppix?
[15:02] <comicinker> how ca I change firefox-settings in a bash skript?
[15:03] <XB23> sudo shud always be /usr/bin/sudo
[15:03] <XB23> yeh
[15:03] <XB23> ?
[15:03] <incandenza> if you just run sudo, and it's not there, the script will just die on "command not found" anyway, no?
[15:03] <ActionParsnip1> mini-Arnold: reboot and choose ubuntu as your booted OS
[15:03] <danbh_intrepid> mini-Arnold: is knoppix based on ubuntu?
[15:03] <nikeplektrum> Setting up a media server with ubuntu, and I have everything I want except one thing, some way to remotely or automatically unpack .rar files
[15:03] <ActionParsnip1> nikeplektrum: unrar
[15:03] <Ktron> danbh_intrepid, no
[15:03] <genii> danbh_intrepid: ubuntu and knoppix are both based on debian
[15:03] <mini-Arnold> the new version (hardy) refuses to boot up somehow
[15:03] <ActionParsnip1> nikeplektrum: unrar x /path/to/file.rar
[15:03] <ActionParsnip1> !rar | nikeplektrum
[15:03] <trilobit`> XB23: yes sudo is in /usr/bin/sudo
[15:04] <XB23> k
[15:04] <ActionParsnip1> mini-Arnold: what happens when you try?
[15:04] <nikeplektrum> !rar
[15:04] <amanu> im getting this error E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. when ever im trying to install anything from terminal can any one help ,e
[15:04] <mini-Arnold> I get the splash screen and it halts on when it does something with /dev
[15:04] <danbh_intrepid> amanu: run the suggested command
[15:04] <ActionParsnip1> amanu: does a reboot help?
[15:04] <RodGo> i need some help i want to change the hostname of a vps, but i cant find the file /etc/hostnames, i am on ubuntu hardy
[15:04] <trilobit`> mini-Arnold: it halts or it says it's checking ?
[15:04] <arvind_khadri> amanu, run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[15:04] <hanoi> hello
[15:04] <Pici> !hostname | RodGo
[15:05] <amanu> even though i manually run  this  run 'dpkg --configure -a'  im getting like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/57445/
[15:05] <ActionParsnip1> mini-Arnold: id check the boot logs
[15:05] <RodGo> ubottu: i cant find the file /etc/hostname
[15:05] <hanoi> i have two screen how can i have 4 screen ?!
[15:05] <amanu> ActionParsnip1:no i im getting the same problem from 3 days
[15:05] <ActionParsnip1> mini-Arnold: as well as check the filesystem that boots ubuntu
[15:05] <mini-Arnold> fsck doesn't work
[15:05] <mini-Arnold> boot logs? what is the command for that?
[15:05] <amanu> ActionParsnip1:reboot to cant help me seems some dependencies of my packages were missing
[15:05] <ganesh>  ActionParsnip1:i ran dmesg and it gave me a lengthy list..what should i check in that?
[15:05] <RodGo> Pici: I cant find the file /etc/hostname
[15:05] <trilobit`> amanu: had you been trying to install anything before that ?
[15:06] <lorenzo> hi everyone, can someone help me with a scanner? My HP PSC 1510s printer/scanner works fine with printing, but as for scanning, it is very low quality - quality is barely acceptable even for documents. I use XSane. What should I do?
[15:06] <hanoi> i have 2 screen and i need to have 4 screen how can i do it ?!
[15:06] <arvind_khadri> amanu, use sudo apt-get -f install
[15:06] <amanu> trilobit`:yes i copied all by *.deb files in another ubuntu and just pasted here to run them
[15:06] <trilobit`> hanoi: try right clicking and modify the options.
[15:06] <mini-Arnold> ActionParsnip1 what is the command for the filesystem?
[15:06] <ActionParsnip1> ganesh: check it for x crashes or other stuff. try dmesg | less
[15:07] <trilobit`> amanu: copying over the .deb files is not the way to do
[15:07] <arvind_khadri> amanu, thats not the way to go
[15:07] <ActionParsnip1> mini-Arnold: fsck.ext3 /dev/<name of partition>
[15:07] <RodGo> how can i change the hostname if there is no file located at /etc/hostname ???
[15:07] <amanu> arvind_khadri:well that too cant help me saying this amanu@amanu-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get -f instal [sudo] password for amanu:  E: Invalid operation instal
[15:07] <ActionParsnip1> !hostname | RodGo
[15:07] <arvind_khadri> amanu, its install
[15:07] <hanoi> there is no options :S
[15:07] <trilobit`> amanu: install , not instal
[15:08] <RodGo> ActionParsnip1: i know that man, its not usefull information, i want to change it permanently but there is no /etc/hostname file
[15:08] <amanu> arvind_khadri:i felt of copying and running this command to get them worked sudo dpkg -i /path/to/*.deb
[15:08] <RodGo> should i create one? because the file doesnt exists
[15:08] <trilobit`> hanoi: there's no "preferences" ?
[15:08] <lorenzo> whenever I open Xsane, I get an CSM error, it says it cant acces the ICM profile
[15:08] <trilobit`> hanoi: when you right click in one of the tray monitors ?
[15:09] <hanoi> okay wait i cheek
[15:09] <amanu> trilobit:i felt of copying and running this command to get them worked sudo dpkg -i /path/to/*.deb
[15:09] <amanu> but unfortunately it gets crashed
[15:09] <amanu> with that
[15:09] <amanu> trilobit:how can i recover
[15:09] <arvind_khadri> amanu, when you have net why dont you use the repo's to install
[15:09] <ActionParsnip1> RodGo: then make it with gksudo gedit /etc/hostname
[15:09] <trilobit`> amanu: that CAN work. But it will have dependency problems when one .deb file needs another .deb file.
[15:09] <hanoi> only change desktop something
[15:09] <hanoi> there is no other chooses :S
[15:10] <arvind_khadri> amanu, first of all run sudo apt-get -f install
[15:10] <amanu> trilobit`:im stucked exactly over there dependency problems any suggesstions
[15:10] <RodGo> ok, hope i can find  hostname example file
[15:10] <trilobit`> hanoi: where do you right click?
[15:10] <konkfire> hola
[15:10] <ActionParsnip1> RodGo: its syntax is: hostname <hostname of computer>
[15:10] <trilobit`> amanu: try this:  sudo apt-get -f install
[15:10] <amanu> arvind_khadri:well that too cant help me saying this amanu@amanu-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get -f instal [sudo] password for amanu:  E: Invalid operation instal
[15:10] <hanoi> on the desktop
[15:10] <ActionParsnip1> RodGo: or check the other files in the infolet for what else you need to change
[15:10] <amanu> trilobit`:well that too cant help me saying this amanu@amanu-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get -f instal [sudo] password for amanu:  E: Invalid operation instal
[15:10] <trilobit`> hanoi: not on the desktop. Right click on one of the small monitors at the tray
[15:10] <RodGo> i already did that, but that doesnt create a hostname file
[15:11] <arvind_khadri> amanu, its install not instal ... you arent doing it properly
[15:11] <trilobit`> amanu: not instal. it's install. (double L)
[15:11] <amanu> ok
[15:11] <hanoi> oh thnxs
[15:11] <hanoi> i did it
[15:11] <ActionParsnip1> RodGo: you can make it with gksudo gedit /etc/hostname file. fill it appropriately and save and exit. you will then have the file
[15:11] <RodGo> ActionParsnip1: i only have this files on /etc/{host.conf  hosts  hosts.allow  hosts.deny}
[15:11] <amanu> amanu@amanu-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get -f install     E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[15:12] <ActionParsnip1> amanu: its telling you how to fix it
[15:12] <RodGo> how do i fill it appropiately, i dont have an example file
[15:12] <trilobit`> amanu: does this:  lsof | grep dpkg" show anything ?
[15:12] <ActionParsnip1> RodGo: http://www.cpqlinux.com/hostname.html
[15:12] <trilobit`> amanu: (omit the quote)
[15:12] <amanu> trilobit`:ok i will try
[15:12] <ActionParsnip1> RodGo: single line containing
[15:12] <ActionParsnip1> RodGo: hostname <whatever the computer is called>
[15:13] <ActionParsnip1> RodGo: then make sure the same name is in /etc/hosts
[15:13] <RodGo> thank you very much action
[15:13] <RodGo> ^^
[15:13] <ganesh> ActionParsnip1:i could not find anything like x crash..
[15:13] <bullgard4> 'aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav functions. 'paplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav' does not function. How to troubleshoot?
[15:13] <ActionParsnip1> ganesh: are there any fails or crashes in there
[15:13] <amanu> trilobit: it does nothing ...amanu@amanu-laptop:~$ lsof | grep dpk
[15:13] <amanu> amanu@amanu-laptop:~$
[15:13] <ActionParsnip1> !paplay
[15:13] <ikonia> bullgard4: I've explained what to do o
[15:13] <ActionParsnip1> !info paplay
[15:14] <ikonia> amanu: why are you still asking about this problem, jrib and myself went through this issue with you in detail yesterday
[15:14] <ActionParsnip1> bullgard4: ^
[15:14] <amanu> ActionParsnip1:with that im getting this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/57445/
[15:14] <trilobit`> amanu: hold on then I must see what might it be
[15:14] <amanu> konia:please forget about pat
[15:14] <IrishDavid> hey, has anyone here ever used Gantt Charts? I need to make a few but I'm not really liking Planner, anyone know of any other programs?
[15:14] <amanu> past
[15:14] <amanu> trilobit`:
[15:14] <amanu> ok
[15:15] <ActionParsnip1> amanu: run sudo apt-get -f install
[15:15] <bullgard4> ActionParsnip1: You are wrong. /usr/bin/papöay exists in Ubuntu 8.04.1.
[15:15] <ikonia> amanu: why are you STILL not using the repo's on the internet
[15:15] <trilobit`> amanu: have you tried to do  "sudo apt-get update"  ?
[15:16] <ikonia> amanu: people spent a LOT of time going through this with you yesterday
[15:16] <amanu> ActionParsnip1:amanu@amanu-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get -f installE: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[15:16] <bullgard4> ActionParsnip1: You are wrong. /usr/bin/paplay exists in Ubuntu 8.04.1.
[15:16] <genii> !info paje.app | IrishDavid
[15:16] <amanu> trilobit:no i willtry now
[15:16] <IrishDavid> thanks genii
[15:16] <genii> IrishDavid: np
[15:17] <genii> IrishDavid: opensched may have also this capability
[15:17] <amanu> trilobit:ya that s working sudo apt-get update
[15:17] <idefix> hey
[15:17] <idefix> great, it works
[15:17] <ActionParsnip1> bullgard4: are you using pulseaudio?
[15:17] <ganesh>  ActionParsnip1: its 117 line message...is there any command to search for particular word? i could not find anything like fail..
[15:17] <suw_ro> hello
[15:17] <bullgard4> ActionParsnip1: Yes.
[15:17] <amanu> trilobit:its downloading hope i will recover after an upgrade
[15:17] <suw_ro> anyone on ibex?
[15:18] <IrishDavid> genii, will have a look thanks
[15:18] <ActionParsnip1> bullgard4: http://linux.die.net/man/1/paplay
[15:18] <suw_ro> is fglrx fixed for 2.6.27 ?
[15:18] <ActionParsnip1> !intrepid | suw_ro
[15:18] <ActionParsnip1> suw_ro: only people who want a broken OS
[15:18] <thiebaude> suw_ro:i'am
[15:18] <suw_ro> ActionParsnip1: comon - aint so broken..
[15:19] <suw_ro> thiebaude: do you have an ati card? fglrx working ?
[15:19] <thiebaude> it's not broken for me
[15:19] <suw_ro> thiebaude: i'm willing to switch from pure debian..
[15:19] <thiebaude> suw_ro"i have integrated intel 815
[15:19] <suw_ro> got tired to keep compile modules... have no time any more.
[15:19] <Finnish> Evolution sends my message twice, it shows also in the Sent-folder twice. What's this?
[15:19] <esay> open office 3.0 issued in world
[15:20] <bullgard4> ActionParsnip1: Before I posted here, I already read 'man paplay'. So what?
[15:20] <ActionParsnip1> suw_ro: ive seen a tonne of issues, plus its not officially released so its not officially supported in the official channel
[15:20] <suw_ro> thiebaude: ok - is 3d acceleration work on 815?
[15:20] <esay> very nice
[15:20] <esay> very good :P
[15:20] <ActionParsnip1> bullgard4: just verifying what you say
[15:20] <trilobit`> amanu: so it's ok now ?
[15:20] <ganesh> ActionParsnip1:there was an entry like" resume from disk failed"
[15:20] <ikonia> bullgard4: out of interest does any other sounds play, say a random wav file or mp3
[15:20] <suw_ro> ActionParsnip1: still 16 days until release - dont care. to much if my fglrx will work
[15:20] <ActionParsnip1> ganesh: then find out what that means
[15:20] <thiebaude> suw_ro:my card isn't capable of 3d rendering
[15:20] <ActionParsnip1> suw_ro: its your computer
[15:20] <suw_ro> ActionParsnip1: i am on debian with custom kernel...
[15:21] <IrishDavid> genii, i just installed paje.app but i cant find what to execute to launch it
[15:21] <thiebaude> suw_ro:so i cant i have goodies like compiz, :-(
[15:21] <suw_ro> ActionParsnip1: hey - ain't windows - I've ben sid-ding a lot in the past.
[15:21] <amanu> trilobit`:ohh samr problem again
[15:21] <suw_ro> thiebaude: ah intel does not 3d - i remember...
[15:21] <ikonia> amanu: re-install
[15:21] <ikonia> amanu: people worked this through with you yesterday
[15:21] <ewook> custom kernel is like a custom car. you know what model it's supposed to be - but you can never expect it to work like 'original'.
[15:22] <ikonia> amanu: your system is in a mess, and moving data from wubi to your partition has messed stuff up from what we found yesterday
[15:22] <thiebaude> its a old 4yr old computer i got off ebay for 120.00, suw_ro
[15:22] <thiebaude> suw_ro:but ubuntu works out of the box
[15:22] <trilobit`> amanu: you shoudn't install .deb files directly with dpkg. Use either apt-get or synaptic for installs. They are the ones that take care of dependecies as well, while dpkg can't.
[15:22] <ikonia> trilobit`: his box is in a right state
[15:22] <suw_ro> ActionParsnip1: even so, kde4 is out of the question - still a long way to finish it, so even If in the past I didnt liked gnome - I started to - and if now has tabs and splitscreen on filebrowsing it's enough for me.. :)
[15:23] <trilobit`> ikonia: oh I see
[15:23] <suw_ro> thiebaude: thank you for your report ;)
[15:23] <whyameye> I have an unformatted usb drive that won't mount in nautilus. How can I reformat?
[15:23] <ikonia> trilobit`: we spent hours on it yesterday
[15:23] <ActionParsnip1> suw_ro: kde4 is nasty, kde3 + fluxboxis gold
[15:23] <thiebaude> suw_ro:your welcomed
[15:23] <ikonia> trilobit`: broken wubi -> partition port attempt
[15:23] <trilobit`> ikonia: Seems quite an endeavour...
[15:24] <ikonia> trilobit`: it was a mess, hence why re-installing on the clean partition was the right way to go
[15:24] <ikonia> (from what we saw yesterday)
[15:24] <suw_ro> whyameye: use mkfs.dos
[15:24] <whyameye> suw_ro: how do I determine the device name for the usb drive?
[15:24] <trilobit`> amanu: well then, wubi installs are for starting up. But when you want to install in a proper partition, don't go for less than fresh installs.
[15:24] <suw_ro> whyameye: mkfs.dos /dev/sdb or whatever your usb device is...
[15:24] <ActionParsnip1> whyameye: sudo fdisk -l
[15:24] <suw_ro> whyameye: get your usb out...
[15:25] <isS> test...
[15:25] <isS> waha
[15:25] <ikonia> pass
[15:25] <suw_ro> whyameye: use tail -f /var/log/kern.log
[15:25] <amanu> trilobit`:ok
[15:25] <isS> halo~
[15:25] <ikonia> hello
[15:25] <suw_ro> whyameye: put your usb back and look at the log... you-ll see
[15:25] <Xcerca> whats the word called for a live-usb installation that keeps settings and packages that you install ?
[15:25] <isS> imfirst use irc
[15:25] <suw_ro> /dev/sdb or /dev/sdc
[15:25] <erica_> alguem me ajuda
[15:25] <erica_> alguem me ajude
[15:26] <ActionParsnip1> !usb | Xcerca
[15:26] <trilobit`> amanu: and after you have fresh installed, THEN move user data ONLY from one install (wubi) to another (partition). Don't do that with system files, only with user data.
[15:26] <isS> i have a problm
[15:26] <ikonia> trilobit`: exactly
[15:26] <ActionParsnip1> isS: wassup
[15:26] <ganesh> ActionParsnip1:[52]"swsusp: resume from partition 8:2" "[ 52]PM:checking swsusp image." "[52]PM:resume from disk failed"
[15:26] <Xcerca> thanks , just found it
[15:26] <chamuscas> i can't remove a program, it's a game and it's in the ubuntu repositories . the name of the game is Abuse
[15:26] <erica_> portugues
[15:26] <ActionParsnip1> ganesh: get websearching that dude
[15:26] <x0mega24x> I'm using an external harddrive on gutsy,  it works fine up until I try to copy something larger than 4GB, then it just drops the copy operation
[15:26] <erica_> alguem
[15:26] <ikonia> !pt
[15:26] <ActionParsnip1> !find abuse
[15:27] <bullgard4> ikonia: When I click on a .mp3 filename on the desktop, Rhythmbox will be called but there is no sound to be heard.
[15:27] <isS> why  my ubuntu nvidia 6200 cant use 2 monitor
[15:27] <x0mega24x> any thoughts as to what that could be
[15:27] <ActionParsnip1> !abuse-sdl | chamuscas
[15:27] <jay> How to install QQ?
[15:27] <ikonia> bullgard4: ahh so it's not those sound files, it's your audio in general
[15:27] <suw_ro> thiebaude: back to you. :) any major problems on ibex? like ... doesnt sleep or... locks?
[15:27] <ActionParsnip1> !info abuse-sdl | chamuscas
[15:27] <isS> im.qq.com/linux
[15:27] <ActionParsnip1> chamuscas: you can install abuse from repos
[15:27] <ikonia> isS: what do you want /
[15:27] <erica_> me ajuda
[15:28] <whyameye> suw_ro: thanks. That worked.
[15:28] <chamuscas> ActionParsnipl , ok but how do unistall it ?
[15:28] <ActionParsnip1> !dualhead | isS
[15:28] <suw_ro> whyameye: you-re welcome :)
[15:28] <ActionParsnip1> chamuscas: you can use add / remove programs
[15:28] <linux_> hola
[15:28] <jay> thank you
[15:28] <isS> i want display two montior on ubuntu nvidia 6200
[15:28] <ActionParsnip1> chamuscas: its not a "wubi only" game
[15:28] <bullgard4> ikonia: 'aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav' functions. It produces a sound.
[15:28] <ActionParsnip1> !dualhead | iss
[15:28] <ikonia> bullgard4: ooh, so you know the files are ok then
[15:28] <chamuscas> ACtionParsnipl, that what i used and it told me that it was unable to remove it =/
[15:28] <ActionParsnip1> !xinerama | isS
[15:28] <isS> yersday i can displayed too.
[15:29] <ActionParsnip1> chamuscas: sudo apt-get --purge remove abuse-sdl
[15:29] <linux_> weche  linux es besser ubuntun oder sabayon
[15:29] <isS> and i install and remove something than cant use
[15:29] <trilobit`> !de
[15:29] <ActionParsnip1> chamuscas: then you can see error messages
[15:29] <chamuscas> ActionParsnipl, tank you
[15:29] <x0mega24x> hey I have an external harddrive hooked up to my gutsy box,  It works fine up til I try to copy something 4GB or greater then it drops the copy operation at 4GB, any idea what could be causing that and how I can fix it
[15:30] <trilobit`> linux_: it's a matter of choice and what you use linux for.
[15:30] <ikonia> x0mega24x is it a fat file system
[15:30] <ActionParsnip1> ikonia: nice one :D
[15:30] <x0mega24x> yes
[15:30] <ActionParsnip1> *cymbal crash*
[15:30] <ikonia> ActionParsnip1: ?
[15:30]  * ActionParsnip1 passes cookie to ikonia
[15:30] <isS> the error msg tell me restart x server but i restart Ntimes...
[15:30] <ActionParsnip1> ikonia: you got that straight off
[15:30] <ikonia> x0mega24x: fat only supports files of 4gb or less
[15:30] <lorenzo> hi, i have a problem scanning images. I have an HP PSC 1510s. If I run hp-check -t, i get this message: 'hpaio' in '/etc/sane.d/dll.conf'...
[15:30] <lorenzo> error: Not found. SANE backend 'hpaio' NOT properly setup (needs to be added to /etc/sane.d/dll.conf).
[15:30] <lorenzo> . What should I do?
[15:31] <ikonia> ActionParsnip1: ahh
[15:31] <suw_ro> how can I stop gnome animation when minimize a window?
[15:31] <linux_> hola
[15:31] <x0mega24x> oh ok so I should just reformat it to ext3 or ntfs
[15:31] <Spud_> I'm writing a udev rule that'll dial my usb modem whenever it's plugged in.  It ends thus: RUN+="/bin/sh -c 'wvdial TATA &'" My udev manual warns that if the rule executes some code that deoesnt terminate, this hangs the whole process.  So I've put in an & to make it fork.  Is this correct?  Also it should execute as rootuser.  Is it going to do that automatically?
[15:31] <ikonia> x0mega24x: ext3
[15:31] <ikonia> x0mega24x: native file systems are so much better
[15:31] <isS> i have another problem
[15:31] <Spud_> I'm posting this on UF in full
[15:31] <linux_> quien sabe que linux es mejor se sabayon o ubuntun
[15:32] <trilobit`> Spud_: You might want to ask that in #debian as well.
[15:32] <Spud_> but if anyone can help, please do, and I'll add the solution to the post
[15:32] <x0mega24x> good call I just need to make it cross compatable with windows for my classes,  Is there a stand alone ms app that can read an ext3 partition?
[15:32] <isS> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx-dev_1%3a96.43.05+<IP_ADDRESS>-21.51_i386.deb: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2
[15:32] <ikonia> x0mega24x thats a bit more tricky, ntfs is a better option, but still has a risk
[15:33] <isS> tell me what kernel i choose
[15:33] <linux_> heeeeeeeeeeey espanol
[15:33] <ikonia> !es
[15:33] <trilobit`> x0mega24x: I have seen around utilities that added a couple of .dll to windows to make it read ext3 partitions.   Thanks for your help guys!
[15:34] <w0ls0n> LOL
[15:34] <thiebaude> !idiot
[15:35] <ikonia> w0ls0n: wasn't funny - don't call people names, he stopped
[15:35] <chatte> any good sync backups that can do local and remote with schedules?
[15:35] <isS> my ubuntu when everyday 5AM well runing?for itself whats worry?
[15:35] <trilobit`> x0mega24x: a friend of mine did that some time ago. And could browse ext3 partitions from windoze.
[15:35] <thiebaude> so true,ikonia
[15:36] <isS> my ubuntu when everyday 5AM well runing?for itself whats worry? about 5:00 when i sleeping...
[15:36] <Spud_> does a udev rule get executed as root?
[15:36] <ikonia> Spud_: the udev daemon runs as root so yes
[15:36] <isS> i must everyday shutdown power
[15:36] <sqawarlz> I'm running 8.04 LTS and I'm having a problem accessing SMB shares via connect to server, ftp, and smb://servername
[15:36] <suw_ro> Spud_: of course it does... They're starded by sysv mechanism on boot
[15:37] <ikonia> suw_ro: it's started by upstart starting the udev daemon, that parses the rules,
[15:37] <ikonia> sysvinit is not in ubuntu
[15:37] <suw_ro> ikonia: you-re right...
[15:37] <manish> any body knows how to add image mail notifications in thunderbird
[15:38] <isS> ???
[15:38] <isS> 有人告诉我吗？
[15:38] <ikonia> isS: it must be hardware related as if ubuntu is shut down, it can't power on without hardware intervention
[15:38] <suw_ro> iss is back
[15:38] <thiebaude> ok, isS
[15:38] <suw_ro> what a happy one..
[15:38] <om_> hello I need a bit of help from u guys I had Installed Windows n Ubuntu previously now I formatted windows n reinstalled it also I fixed the MBR now how to get grub again so tht I can access my Ubuntu OS
[15:39] <isS> nonono
[15:39] <thiebaude> isS:do you have a question?
[15:39] <SlimeyPete> !grub | om_
[15:39] <thiebaude> do
[15:39] <isS> i use windows it dont!
[15:39] <kri> how do i se the current timezone of the system watch
[15:39] <trilobit`> isS: what is the trouble ?
[15:39] <suw_ro> om_: boot from cd/dvd with option : rescue instead install - then use grub-install /dev/sda (or whatever your device is)
[15:39] <ikonia> isS: do you have an ubuntu question yes/no
[15:39] <om_> ya
[15:40] <manish> click on the clock
[15:40] <ikonia> isS: spanish chat is in #ubuntu-es
[15:40] <om_> ya I had followes some steps from a website
[15:40]  * trilobit` thinks isS is chinese
[15:40] <om_> it also said Grub Installed Successfully but it didn't when I rebooted
[15:40] <isS> i'm chinese
[15:40] <ikonia> !cn
[15:40] <ikonia> trilobit`: will done
[15:40] <om_> u gave me the same website
[15:40] <om_> I had perfomed the steps
[15:40] <suw_ro> om_:  grub-install --fix-mbr /devsda
[15:40] <isS> thx
[15:40] <isS> i will back
[15:40] <suw_ro> it's /dev/sda not /dev/sda1
[15:41] <trilobit`> ikonia: isS: I can't understand what the trouble is.
[15:41] <isS> how can i back here?
[15:41] <suw_ro> om_: you install the grub in MBR
[15:41] <manish> please can somebody solve my query
[15:41] <om_> accha where do i have to run this command grub-install --fix mbr /devsda?
[15:41] <ikonia> isS: same way as you came
[15:41] <ikonia> !grub > om_
[15:41] <trilobit`> isS: join the channel #ubuntu
[15:41] <isS> haha see u
[15:41] <manish> i want to add image notification to thunderbird
[15:41] <suw_ro> om_: reboot from your install cd with rescue option
[15:41] <thiebaude> bye isS
[15:42] <amanu> trilobit`:any how knowingly or unknowingly i transfered  system files will there dont be a way to recover it rather than a reinstall of a system
[15:42] <ikonia> amanu: you have broke you syste, - you need to re-install
[15:42] <Spud_> is this the right way to fork a new process? RUN+="/bin/sh -c 'wvdial TATA &'"
[15:42] <ikonia> amanu: that is what needs to happen to get your system working, you can then transfer the data across once you have a working system
[15:42] <trilobit`> amanu: there might be. But I fear it's beyond the ability of us here to help you do that. Too many things involved,
[15:42] <amanu> ikonia:i dont want to do it im searching here for an alternative
[15:42] <suw_ro> om_: answer to all those questions, skip networking - you-re not gonna need it... then the installer ask you to open a console on installed ubuntu - do that and the rest is history
[15:42] <Spud_> I'm creating a udev rule, and it'll hang if I don't fork.
[15:43] <ikonia> amanu: the answer is to re-install the OS, we spent hours working it through yesterday and your system was in a real mess
[15:43] <trilobit`> Spud_: I just saw there's a channel #udev  They might know.
[15:43] <om_> See I have Ubuntu 8.04 okay so I boot up smoothly using Live cd
[15:43] <manish> is it possible atleast to add custom image email notification to thunderbird. Isearched the net but did not get any thing relevent
[15:43] <om_> Now when I opened terminal I performed the following steps
[15:43] <suw_ro> om_: rescue mode?
[15:43] <r4nd0m> hello! i have AMD turion 64 x2, ATI X1200 and 1gb ram, the problem is, i dont have counter-strike constantly 100 fps, its like 50 fps in realistic scenarios. Im pretty sure its not because hardware but because of latest ati drivers(counter-strike is shittly programmed(1.6)) thats why.. my question is, does ubuntu use same drivers as ATI?
[15:43] <om_> sudo grub
[15:43] <r4nd0m> maybe i can play cs on linux?(through wine)
[15:44] <om_> which gave me the output mentioned on the page
[15:44] <suw_ro> om_: boot in rescue mode - or install mode - there's a difference
[15:44] <ikonia> manish: the devs are in #mozzilla maybe they can help
[15:44] <om_> ohhhh
[15:44] <amanu> trilobit`:its ok thank you for spending time for that can i find any documentation to read over to recovet rather than a reinstall because i dont want to just disturb all
[15:44] <om_> u mean i had to install ubuntu?
[15:44] <suw_ro> om_: NO
[15:44] <suw_ro> om_: type rescue on boot loader
[15:44] <trilobit`> amanu: it's easier to reinstall though.
[15:44] <ikonia> amanu: asking the same question and being told the same answer for 3 days is disturbing
[15:44] <Orbixx-eee> Just installed rtorrent from source and it freezes the moment it opens. Any ideas?
[15:44] <om_> but currenlty there is no bootloaded I mean windows starts automatically
[15:45] <ikonia> amanu: you will find it easier, quicker and a lot better to get to your end goal if you just re-install
[15:45] <ikonia> !grub > om_
[15:45] <om_> as my machine can't recognize the Ubuntu OS
[15:45] <amanu> trilobit`:yes but i want to recover any documentation if you can pleaseeeee
[15:45] <suw_ro> om_: Boot from CDROM - in RESCUE mode...
[15:45] <om_> ubottu i saw but i neeed a manual help
[15:45] <ikonia> amanu: you can do that once you have a working install
[15:45] <ikonia> om_: what part is not workng
[15:45] <amanu> ikonia:yes i have a live cd now
[15:45] <om_> I have a windows XP Os installed which currently working 5n
[15:45] <ikonia> amanu: then install the OS
[15:46] <om_> Now my pc has Ubuntu 8.04
[15:46] <manish> thanks ikonia
[15:46] <om_> but the grub is not there
[15:46] <ikonia> om_: follow the guide ubottu sent you
[15:46] <trilobit`> amanu: the documentation you mean documents? Your own? they usually have nothing to do with the system. just save somewhere the /home/yourusername directory before you reinstall.
[15:46] <amanu> ikonia:but i want any documentation to recover rather than reinstalling
[15:46] <om_> so i need to install grub and change the grub.conf so tht it detects my Ubuntu OS
[15:46] <ikonia> amanu: your not listening, you install the OS so you CAN recover the documentation
[15:46] <suw_ro> om_: man - Put your cdrom in the machine, reboot from CDROM - select rescue mode - or type rescue
[15:46] <om_> ikonia if there wasn't any prob in tht I wouldn't have been here
[15:46] <om_> I have some probs in tht
[15:46] <ikonia> om_: follow the guide that ubottu sent you
[15:46] <om_> okay suw
[15:46] <om_> I will be back
[15:46] <ikonia> om_: it walks through installing grub
[15:46] <om_> okay
[15:46] <FloodBot2> om_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:47] <amanu> trilobit`:can you tell me what exact part of my system is being damaged?
[15:47] <suw_ro> ikonia: is your nick girl/boy?
[15:47] <ikonia> suw_ro male
[15:47] <suw_ro> ikonia: what it is comming from?
[15:47] <ljsoftnet> in gdebi when you open a .deb file, there's a "Package: packagename" on the upper left, is the "packagename" the only package to be installed?
[15:47] <amanu> trilobit`:what exact part of my ubuntu is being damaged now?
[15:47] <suw_ro> ikonia: icon world?
[15:48] <trilobit`> amanu: most probably the /var/lib or /lib or /share or /usr/share. There's where system files generally are.
[15:48] <ikonia> suw_ro: pointless discussion, lets not
[15:48] <om_> one more question to u people
[15:48] <suw_ro> ikonia: just courious!
[15:48] <om_> they have mention hd0,1
[15:48] <om_> waht should I meantion
[15:48] <om_> i get the output of previous commands as hd1,4
[15:48] <ikonia> om_: the guide explains how to work out what your options are
[15:48] <ikonia> om_: keep reading
[15:48] <manish> ikonia: i am the only person in that community :)
[15:48] <suw_ro> gtg
[15:48] <suw_ro> have fun
[15:48] <ikonia> manish: which community /
[15:48] <amanu> trilobit`:you mean may be either all of them or may be some of them maybe gets damaged?
[15:48]  * suw_ro BYE!
[15:49] <isS> im back
[15:49] <ikonia> amanu: your system as an over all OS is in a mess
[15:49] <trilobit`> amanu: hard to tell. I don't know anything about Wubi installs.
[15:49] <ljsoftnet> in gdebi when you open a .deb file, there's a "Package: packagename" on the upper left, is the "packagename" the only package to be installed?
[15:49] <isS> how can fastest restart pc
[15:49] <manish> #mozzilla
[15:49] <ikonia> isS sudo shutdown -r now
[15:49] <ikonia> manish: sorry, #mozilla
[15:49] <amanu> trilobit`:ohh im now not in a wubi install im now in a fresh install
[15:49] <manish> was this for me ??
[15:50] <ikonia> amanu: but your using data form your wubi install
[15:50] <manish> ok lol :)
[15:50] <amanu> trilobit`:my wubi install i getting working fine
[15:50] <ikonia> amanu: what part of this is not clear
[15:50] <trilobit`> amanu: save /home/yourusername directory in another disk or in a windows partition. Reinstall and then take that directory back. That directory contains all your documents and there's no system files there.
[15:51] <usa1FTA> who owns this server?
[15:51] <ikonia> usa1FTA freenode
[15:51] <usa1FTA> or
[15:51] <trilobit`> usa1FTA: the people do :p
[15:51] <usa1FTA> knows anything about MIRC servers.
[15:51] <ikonia> usa1FTA: no, this is ubuntu support
[15:51] <amanu> ikonia: yes i used  data(*.debfiles )form my wubi install it messed up my real install
[15:51] <ikonia> amanu: I know !
[15:51] <ljsoftnet> when you open a .deb file, there's a "Package: packagename" on the upper left, is the "packagename" the only package to be installed?
[15:51] <ikonia> amanu: you need to re-install and install the updates from the net
[15:52] <trilobit`> amanu: so now you know not to do that again ever. ;)
[15:52] <ikonia> amanu: as you've been told 10000 times now
[15:52] <amanu> trilobit:ok
[15:52] <usa1FTA> trilobit` if a channel has only one in it, would it still be on the channels list or not?
[15:52] <^andrea^> hi all
[15:52] <ikonia> usa1FTA: join #freenode for network questions
[15:52] <usa1FTA> k
[15:52] <trilobit`> usa1FTA: this is for ubuntu man. But still I can tell you it depends on the channel modes. +s
[15:53] <usa1FTA> ty tri
[15:53] <^andrea^> I have a very annoying problem... I can't connect any IDE to a ftp server...
[15:53] <trilobit`> ^andrea^: ??
[15:53] <ikonia> ^andrea^: can you connect to the ftp server using an ftp client
[15:53] <ikonia> trilobit`: development environment ide
[15:53] <ikonia> not ide disk
[15:53] <^andrea^> yes
[15:54] <BlueEagle> ^andrea^: IDE as in Integrated Development Environment or IDE as a harddrive?
[15:54] <tobiassjosten> I'm recording a stream using a certain software but all my videos turn out all green. Does anyone have any spontaneous idea as to why thus could be?
[15:54] <^andrea^> I think because that server requires trasfer mode set to "active" instead of passive...
[15:54] <^andrea^> BlueEagle: sorry, yes...
[15:54] <trilobit`> ^andrea^: and there are no options to modify in the IDE for that?
[15:54] <ljsoftnet> when you open a .deb file, there's a "Package: packagename" on the upper left, is the "packagename" the only package to be installed?
[15:54] <BlueEagle> ^andrea^: That was not a yes/no question.
[15:55] <trilobit`> ljsoftnet: Why would you open a .deb file ?
[15:56] <guantanamo_> Does anyone know if it is possible to run mac osx leopard in vmware or virtualbox or any other "virtualizer"?
[15:56] <trilobit`> ljsoftnet: .deb files are not for you to manipulate. it's apt that does.
[15:56] <edlv> i connected a webcam.but it is not working. what can i do?
[15:56] <^andrea^> unfortunately no, I tried Eclipse... Quanta+... any IDE can connect to some servers but not to those which require an "active" connection...
[15:56] <Guest5873> #ubuntu-cn
[15:56] <Guest5873> ?
[15:56] <ljsoftnet> trilobit` you can install with it right
[15:56] <Guest5873> give me a link to cn
[15:56] <BlueEagle> Guest5873: to join #ubuntu-cn channel type: /join #ubuntu-cn
[15:57] <eschuch> edlv: Witch is your webcam model ?
[15:57] <bastid_raZor> guantanamo_; to date, i've never heard of anyone getting it to work properly. very sluggish and laggish.
[15:57] <trilobit`> ljsoftnet: well... not directly. Unless you're confident for real with dependencies among them.
[15:57] <Gnea> Guest5873: type this here:  /join #ubuntu-cn
[15:57] <^andrea^> haha... sorry again BlueEagle! IDE stands for  Integrated Development Environment...
[15:57] <Guest5873> wait
[15:57] <sezitas> hello
[15:57] <edlv> eschuch:i connected via usb.
[15:57] <trilobit`> ljsoftnet: or unless the provider of that .deb file has indicated you can install with it directly.
[15:57] <amanu> how can i install xchat in a freshly installed system any command there to install it from terminal?
[15:57] <BlueEagle> ^andrea^: Oh, you want to access a ftp server with the open/save dialog?
[15:57] <sezitas> I have a problem with my nic.... it's an realtek 8111/8168..
[15:58] <sezitas> I have no internet access
[15:58] <sadam> has anyone else running ibex experience issues with gnome-settings-demon not theming things and soft buttons not working?
[15:58] <trilobit`> amanu: apt-get install xchat
[15:58] <amanu> ok
[15:58] <^andrea^> exactly...
[15:58] <manish> whats the terminal command to view an image
[15:58] <ikonia> amanu apt-get install gnome-xchat
[15:58] <eschuch> edlv: open a Console Shell, type sudo tailf /var/log/dmesg
[15:58] <sezitas> althow when I first tested te live cd it worked just fine
[15:58] <eschuch> edlv:than plug your usb cam
[15:58] <amanu> ikonia:will xchat and gnome-xchat differ?
[15:58] <edlv> eschuch:ok.
[15:58] <berndm> Hi There, My USB automount broke recently on Hardy, tried to uninstall HAL and reinstalled that fixes it but after reboot same problem. I checked K settings for automount and they are fine. Anyone any help on this ?
[15:58] <ubuntoRoxx_> Hello. I have a partion on my harddisk where i have some data i need to access. So i need to mount my drive. But in my /dev i have A LOT of different devices....How do I know which one is the correct harddisk partition?
[15:58] <ikonia> one intergrated into gnome
[15:58] <^andrea^> otherwise I have to edit files with the editor and then switch to FileZilla....
[15:59] <ikonia> ^andrea^: does it work with passive ftp servers /
[15:59] <eschuch> edlv:please post here the out text
[15:59] <BlueEagle> ^andrea^: There are two options as far as I know. You can either mount the ftp server in a folder using ftpfs or you can access it with ftp://. Not sure how well the latter works in gnome though. I'm a KDE-head myself. :)
[15:59] <eschuch> edlv: please post here the out text
[15:59] <^andrea^> ikonia: yes, it works!
[15:59] <sezitas> anybody? :(
[15:59] <ikonia> ^andrea^: sounds like a bug or a limiation then, maybe worth reporting it on launchpad.net
[16:00] <amanu> ikonia:i mean are  xchat and gnome-xchat are different? or the same
[16:00] <isS_> sound driver 's what package
[16:00] <ubuntoRoxx_> anyone?
[16:00] <ikonia> amanu same product, one is intergrated itno gnome
[16:00] <amanu> ok
[16:00] <BladieBla> hi
[16:00] <ikonia> ubuntoRoxx_: saying anyone is pointless, if they didn't se the question saying "anyone" won't let them see it, if they don't know the answer saying "anyone" won't make them know it
[16:01] <^andrea^> In fileZilla (my ftp client) I have to set the "active" mode otherwise I can't connect either way...
[16:01] <edlv> eschuch: http://dpaste.com/84379/
[16:01] <BladieBla> can someone help me with a boot problem of beta ubuntu desktop 8.10 i gt a error at the firtst boot up after installation i get error 15 something he cant find i think its the kernel
[16:01] <^andrea^> but in the IDEs the option is missing... ARG!!!
[16:01] <BlueEagle> ubuntoRoxx_: `sudo fdisk -l` will list all partitions on regular (ie non-raid) drives.
[16:01] <ikonia> !intrepid > BladieBla
[16:02] <ganesh> ikonia:i installed ubuntu 64 bit version on amd athlon x2 64, but after reboot its not logging in and its coming back to loggin screen but logs in via failsafe terminal
[16:02] <BlueEagle> ubuntoRoxx_: You will probably find it on /dev/sdXY where X is the harddisk letter and Y is the partition number.
[16:02] <eschuch> edlv: if the file dosen't change as you plug the cam, maybe your webcam isn't compatible with linux.
[16:02] <BlueEagle> ubuntoRoxx_: Other than that you can try mounting potential drives and check if it contains the files you need.
[16:03] <eschuch> edlv:Do you have the model os your webcam ?
[16:03] <trilobit`> ganesh: it used to be ok when you had 32 bit install ?
[16:03] <ikonia> ganesh: what video card do you have
[16:03] <ganesh> trilobit`:exactly the same problem
[16:03] <bg4bt> Heyas, i have a problem installiung divx on xubuntu
[16:03] <ikonia> !codec > bg4bt
[16:03] <ganesh>  ikonia: dont know.. how to check?
[16:03] <sparkyy> im trying to get OOo 3.0 installed and I get this error http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/57467/
[16:03] <trilobit`> ganesh: then it's not a kernel issue. Can you login in text mode ?
[16:04] <sparkyy> can't update my menus
[16:04] <ikonia> ganesh: is it an ati card ?
[16:04] <^andrea^> BlueEagle: I tried with CURLFTPFS but I had the same problem... I did not find the way to set the connection to "active"
[16:04] <ganesh>  trilobit`:yes in terminal mode i can enter
[16:04] <trilobit`> ^andrea^: does that server have ssh ?
[16:04] <sparkyy> anyone know how to update properly to Open Office 3.0
[16:04] <sparkyy> menu is not updated
[16:05] <BlueEagle> !patience | sparkyy
[16:05] <ganesh>  ikonia:i dont know..is there any command to check?
[16:05] <LordC> Is anyone from the Ubuntu community attending the Linux Live Expo in London later this month?
[16:05] <^andrea^> and BlueEagle, what do you mean with "... you can access it with ftp:// ..."
[16:05] <bg4bt> Heyas, i have a problem installiung divx on xubuntu, i cant accept the license agreement in the terminal after ./install.sh
[16:05] <aMuleAduGuest993> ciao a tutti
[16:05] <sparkyy> BlueEagle, I am patient.  Just giving the details
[16:05] <trilobit`> !it
[16:06] <BlueEagle> ^andrea^: It might not be relevant for gnome, but in KDE you can enter<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and have it connect automagically.
[16:06] <^andrea^> trilobit: no, it does not have ssh...
[16:06] <dcomxx> anyone know how to add libs with gcc ?
[16:06] <BlueEagle> ^andrea^: And I always thought that ftp servers that accepted active connections also accepted passive ones by default.
[16:06] <ikonia> dcomxx: add libs to what ?
[16:06] <kalkoen-co> ggg
[16:07] <bg4bt> Heyas, i have a problem installiung divx on xubuntu, i cant accept the license agreement in the terminal after ./install.sh
[16:07] <dcomxx> a lib with modules that should be used by gcc to compile a program
[16:07] <trilobit`> dcomxx: you mean adding libs for gcc to use ?
[16:07] <bharath> hai everyone...!
[16:07] <BlueEagle> sparkyy: Then I suggest you add the details needed in one line along with your question. :)
[16:07] <ikonia> bg4bt you don't install divx that way
[16:07] <ikonia> bg4bt see the link ubottu sent you
[16:07] <ganesh>  ikonia: yes i think its ati card
[16:07] <ikonia> bg4bt: xvid (divx) is in the repos
[16:07] <ikonia> ganesh: it's a common problem
[16:07] <ikonia> !ati > ganesh
[16:07] <sparkyy> BlueEagle, I did http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/57467/  I added the packages for OOo but the desktop-integration package fails ... see pastebin
[16:08] <indian_munnda> sparkyy: r u not able to update it from office itself (tools -> update -> update all)?
[16:08] <BlueEagle> sparkyy: I'm sorry, but I know nothing about upgrading to OOo3. I was just trying to help you get help from others faster.
[16:08] <^andrea^> BlueEagle: thank you very much... I really don't know what the problem is...
[16:08] <sparkyy> indian_munnda, I just downloaded the package and dpkg'ed
[16:08] <dcomxx> not libs for gcc .. just modules that i put in a lib and now i want gcc to use that lib instead of the .c files
[16:09] <amanu_> bharath:hi
[16:09] <trilobit`> dcomxx: usually when using extra libraries when you compile "foo", you tell "foo" via configure or Makefile or some other means where to check for the extra libraries when compiled.
[16:09] <sparkyy> BlueEagle, thanks..
[16:09] <dcomxx> yea but whats the option for using a lib with gcc ?
[16:09] <^andrea^> my colleague use Dreamweaver and has no problem at all!!!
[16:09] <sparkyy> I used the intstructions here http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=68
[16:09] <bharath> hi to amanu_
[16:10] <trilobit`> dcomxx: I think it's:   -I /path/to/library
[16:10] <trilobit`> dcomxx: -I as in "include as well"
[16:10] <aMuleAduGuest993> ciao come faccio ad entrare in it?
[16:10] <javierg> Does anyone know why when moving Mplayer or the drop effects from Comp fuzion take effect the screen turns blue? Here is a screen shot. http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/th3oriesfus3d/Screenshot.png
[16:10] <ganesh>  ikonia: how can i insatll ati driver using commnand line?
[16:11] <trilobit`> aMuleAduGuest993:  /join #ubuntu-it
[16:11] <sqawarlz> I'm running 8.04 LTS and I'm having a problem accessing SMB shares via connect to server, ftp, and smb://servername
[16:11] <aMuleAduGuest993> ciao a tutti!!
[16:12] <sparkyy> !it
[16:12] <RickZilla> I've switched one of my computers at home from Windows to Ubuntu...I'm very familiar with Picasa, but wonder if F-Spot would do the trick instead...any thoughts about Picasa vs. F-Spot?
[16:13] <ganesh>  ikonia: how can i insatll ati driver using commnand line?
[16:14] <ttt--_> hi, i get this error "X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)" when opening videos.. closing all progs doesnt help, rebooting solves it..
[16:14] <Scunizi> RickZilla: I've used both.. F-Spot works fine and is very similar however you can install Picasa if you want..
[16:14] <RickZilla> Scunizi:  Would F-Spot upload to Picasa Web?
[16:14] <BlueEagle> ttt--_: Might be a memory fragmentation issue. How much RAM do you have to play with?
[16:14] <Scunizi> RickZilla: yep
[16:15] <Scunizi> RickZilla: and a bunch of others as well.
[16:15] <ttt--_> i only have 10% or so of memory in use
[16:15] <BlueEagle> ttt--_: That was not the question.
[16:15] <RickZilla> Scunizi:  Thanks, I may give it a shot...might be good to have something to upload to Flickr as well
[16:15] <dngr> can the language ubuntu is installed in be changed on the fly?
[16:15] <_Zeus_> dngr: yes
[16:15] <_Zeus_> dngr: systep > preferences > language support?
[16:15] <sparkyy> Anyone successfully install OOo 3.0 on 8.04? How to update the menu ?
[16:16] <ttt--_> total RAM is 1gb
[16:16] <_Zeus_> s/systep/system/
[16:16] <dngr> _Zeus_, on the terminal?
[16:16] <dngr> no gui access..
[16:16] <BlueEagle> ttt--_: Well, then memory fragmentation is not the prime suspect. Which media player and which encoding are we talking about here?
[16:16] <_Zeus_> dngr: oh, no, that would be a gui.  not sure how to do it from the cmd line
[16:16] <sqawarlz> I'm running 8.04 LTS and I'm having a problem accessing SMB shares via connect to server, ftp, and smb://servername
[16:16] <sqawarlz> I'm running 8.04 LTS and I'm having a problem accessing SMB shares via connect to server, ftp, and smb://servername
[16:16] <ubuntoRoxx_> I am trying to mount a drive, but i get "Only root can do that". How do I execute a command as root?
[16:16] <trilobit`> sqawarlz: don't repeat please
[16:16] <Scunizi> RickZilla: it's preinstalled so it's pretty easy.. there is an option you MIGHT want to turn off in fspot.. it likes to move pics from their current directory to one of its own. It makes directories as Year, then Month, then Day.. Some people don't like that.
[16:17] <BlueEagle> !repeat > sqawarlz
[16:17] <_Zeus_> ubuntoRoxx_: sudo
[16:17] <indian_munnda> !patience > sqawarlz
[16:17] <RickZilla> Scunizi:  That's good information to have...I like to keep track of my own folders, and it gets a little annoying when apps do their own...thanks for the heads up.
[16:17] <ubuntoRoxx_> _Zeus_: So sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/sda3 ?
[16:17] <BlueEagle> sqawarlz: Any error messages would be helpful.
[16:17] <_Zeus_> ubuntoRoxx_: sure
[16:17] <greencookie> I uninstalled GDM and Gnome and just installed Kubuntu. How can I make GDM startup automatically?
[16:18] <ttt--_> every video i try fails, with every player
[16:18] <BlueEagle> greencookie: rcconf is nice for that imo.
[16:18] <_Zeus_> ubuntoRoxx_: would you go ahead and get rid of your duplicate account? (UbuntoRoxx)
[16:18] <Scunizi> RickZilla: np.. I unfortunatly didn't catch it until almost 1000 photos had been reorganized for me.. arg.
[16:18] <andre__> I'm looking for a mail software with an web Interface. I wanna isntall it at my desktop but also use it via dyndns over the web. Is there something?
[16:18] <greencookie> BlueEagle: thanks. I'll try that
[16:18] <Scunizi> andre__: zimbra
[16:19] <astro73> did the latest nvidia driver update break something?
[16:19] <sqawarlz> BlueEagle, I'm only getting cannot display location, failed to mount windows share
[16:19] <ubuntoRoxx_> Cool, i just succesfully mounted my first drive :D
[16:19] <astro73> X11 is dying horrible, painful deaths after reboot for reasons beyond me
[16:19] <ubuntoRoxx_> Will this drive remain mounted after restart?
[16:19] <dexter> hey can anyone tell me the command 4 deleting all the files of any particular extension
[16:20] <sqawarlz> ubuntuRoxx, it fails to mount period.
[16:20] <BlueEagle> sqawarlz: I see. How do you attempt to mount the share? Do you have a username identical to the one you use in linux on the windows box and if so, does this user have a password defined?
[16:20] <ubuntoRoxx_> sqawarlz: I dont understand that?
[16:20] <sqawarlz> ubuntuRoxx, I also cannot access FTP without a FTP client, such as gFTP.
[16:20] <bastid_raZor> dexter; if you're in the directory already type 'rm -f *.extension
[16:20] <nyad>  hi. I'm using a proxy to connect and I set my http_proxy env var like $ export http_proxy=http://username:pwd@proxy:port  but lynx then said my username:pwd was the proxy and asked for a username and pwd. why doesn't it accept the syntax of the proxy var?
[16:20] <ubuntoRoxx_> sqawarlz: What do you mean?
[16:21] <sqawarlz> BlueEagle, I do not have a user name that is identical. I am specifying a user name, and it comes up with the password field there after where I enter my credentials.
[16:21] <scientes> why the frig cant pressing esc on the ubuntu cds get you to a real grub command line?
[16:21] <sqawarlz> ubuntoRoxx, I mean the share wont mount, so it cant remain after reboot because it doesnt mount!
[16:21] <BlueEagle> sqawarlz: What do you do to make it "come up with the password field"? (ie. which tool are you attempting to mount with)
[16:22] <sqawarlz> BlueEagle, I am trying to connect to the server via connect to server from the ubuntu menu
[16:22] <BlueEagle> scientes: Because it provides an option to add advanced options. I think it's by pressing F6 but I don't remember exactly.
[16:22] <sqawarlz> Ubuntu>Places>Connect to server
[16:23] <scientes> hmm,
[16:23] <scientes> i couldnt find it
[16:23] <BlueEagle> sqawarlz: Ahh. I see. Nothing I can help you with then... unless you want to try to mount it using the command line which might help identify the problem.
[16:23] <scientes> what is the use of the esc command line?
[16:23] <scientes> all it wanted was a kernel image path
[16:23] <scientes> and nothing more
[16:23] <dexter> hey how can i arrive at the directory of my  pen drive
[16:23] <sqawarlz> BlueEagle, that is a good idea, how do I do that?
[16:24] <scientes> it seems 64 bit grub is differnt or something?
[16:24] <sqawarlz> Im trying to mount a SMB share on a domain server, but regardless it is failing.
[16:24] <ikonia> scientes grub is 32bit
[16:24] <scientes> the grub from my 64 bit install isnt working and the partition isnt recognized, my home is
[16:24] <scientes> and i didnt want to override t to bot a windows partition on the same drive
[16:24] <ikonia> scientes grub is still 32bit even on a 64bit system
[16:25] <BlueEagle> sqawarlz: Hang on. Getting the command. :)
[16:25] <trilobit`> scientes: normally grub doesn't have anything to do with diffences 32/64bit
[16:25] <scientes> my motherboard went bad and i had to send it back so i am in a wierd place with all this 64 code on my system
[16:25] <BlueEagle> !samba
[16:25] <scientes> gmm
[16:25] <sqawarlz> BlueEagle, thanks
[16:25] <scientes> well it didnt work
[16:25] <scientes> wouldnt bee the first time
[16:26] <rbll> hi all
[16:26] <scientes> like how ubuntu ALLWAYS gets my drive numbers wrong when installing grub and i allways have to change them
[16:26] <trilobit`> scientes: does it work when you put a live cd there ?
[16:26] <rbll> i have a simple question
[16:26] <scientes> yeah im on the live cd now
[16:26] <rbll> does anyone know the "channel for Counter-Strike"?
[16:26] <Scorpion_on> hi
[16:26] <scientes> but i cant boot the 32-bt windows partition cause grub doesnt get to stage 1.5
[16:26] <rbll> because I need help for CS on Ubuntu
[16:26] <astro73> rbll: #wine?
[16:26] <scientes> why would you do that rbll?
[16:27] <trilobit`> scientes: so have you tried to take note of how the live cd numbers the partitions and check that against the installed system ?
[16:27] <bharath> any slackware users...?
[16:27] <rbll> because I am on Ubuntu??? :D
[16:27] <dexter> wats the command to enter into the previous directory
[16:27] <scientes> honestly if your a serious gamer run linux in a vm under windows
[16:27] <Gnea> bharath: in #slackware
[16:27] <nyad> bharath, ive used it for a bot
[16:27] <nyad> bit
[16:27] <Ercolinov> Hi
[16:28] <scientes> idk, it seems that even when grub has its files locally it doesnt like to work when you move the drive around
[16:28] <unimatrix9> hi there , how do i get dvdauthor to make a dvd with more then one file?
[16:28] <trilobit`> scientes: move the drive around ?
[16:28] <scientes> like master/slave to another machine, on a differnt card etc
[16:28] <scientes> it breaks grub
[16:29] <trilobit`> scientes: you do that often ?
[16:29] <attickid> ey how can I make "cd" to a directory which has a space in its name?
[16:30] <sqawarlz> BlueEagle, NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE
[16:30] <BlueEagle> sqawarlz: In a terminal type: sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=your_username_goes_here,password=your_password_goeshere //servername/sharename /path/to/mountpoint
[16:30] <el_guapo> @attikid: use quotes
[16:30] <scientes> well when my harddrive goes bad i do it
[16:30] <trilobit`> attickid: use:  cd "/where/the directory with spaces/is"
[16:30] <el_guapo> or escape the space:  cd my\ folder
[16:30] <trilobit`> attickid: use the quotes.
[16:30] <BlueEagle> sqawarlz: Which platform is the share running on?
[16:30] <scientes> and also i had trouble with drivers in windows for my IDE/PCI card
[16:30] <sqawarlz> Server 2003
[16:30] <attickid> trilobit, el_guapo  thanks :)
[16:31] <indian_munnda> dexter: cd ..
[16:31] <scientes> it sould work even if moved, esp if the refrenced partition ins on the same gd drive
[16:31] <dexter> indian_munda; that doesnt work in linux..it works in windows
[16:31] <trilobit`> scientes: I can't tell. I haven't changed much such as you so I can't say.
[16:31] <dexter> indian_munda; is ur name mahidhar
[16:32] <trilobit`> attickid: np
[16:32] <indian_munnda> dexter: this works dude i use it in ubuntu itself. :0
[16:32] <indian_munnda> :)
[16:32] <scientes> hmm live cd isnt liking my partition
[16:32] <indian_munnda> dexter: nopes
[16:32] <BlueEagle> sqawarlz: If you have got spaces in your username and/or password you have to escape them by prepending a backslash so that some user becomes some\ user
[16:32] <el_guapo> how do i configure the menu to open an app with nice? eg:  sudo nice -n -15 app   or gksudo nice -n -15 app  (neither of which work btw)
[16:33] <scientes> use &&
[16:33] <Gnea> scientes: please do not obfuscate swearing (or swear), there are kids present
[16:33] <scientes> el_guapo:
[16:33] <indian_munnda> dexter: there is a space between cd and ..
[16:33] <indian_munnda> mind that
[16:33] <scientes> program && gksu renice +5 app
[16:33] <sqawarlz> BlueEagle, I do not have spaces in my name. Basically I'm trying to connect via smbclient //bill/documents -U <username>
[16:34] <sqawarlz> BlueEagle, it there by ask me for my password which I enter correctly.
[16:34] <BlueEagle> sqawarlz: Did you attempt the mount-string I gave you?
[16:34] <_Zeus_> scientes: why use gksu?
[16:34] <dexter> indian_munda; thanx buddy...this works
[16:34] <el_guapo> scientes: 1 moment plz---
[16:34] <BlueEagle> !gksudo
[16:34] <scientes> yeah
[16:34] <_Zeus_> renice is not a GUI app!
[16:34] <scientes> sudo works fine if you laund from terminal or if allready validated thou
[16:35] <sqawarlz> BlueEagle, I have problems with that mount string. udo mount -t smbfs -o username,password //servername/sharename /path/to/mountpoint
[16:35] <nyad> scientes, it works but I doubt it's secure
[16:35] <scientes> gksu is backwards compadible with sudo i believe
[16:35] <BlueEagle> sqawarlz: Which error message is you getting?
[16:35] <nyad> safer to use kdesu or gksu
[16:35] <scientes> i dont think it makes a diff nyad
[16:35] <sqawarlz> should it be sudo mount -t smbfs -o username,password //servername/sharename /path/to/mountpoint ORs udo mount -t smbfs -o username=username,password=password? //servername/sharename /path/to/mountpoint
[16:36] <scientes> your just trusting gksu with your password instead of your terminal/sudo
[16:36] <nyad> most people say running graphical things as root is bad
[16:36] <BlueEagle> sqawarlz: it should be sudo mount
[16:36] <_Zeus_> nyad: indeed it is, if you don't need it
[16:36] <Donnie> salve a tutti
[16:36] <scientes> rm -rf /* isnt a graphical program
[16:36] <BlueEagle> !sudo | sqawarlz
[16:36] <sqawarlz> BlueEagle, I really mean the username and password portion. I dont understand why you are putting the password in there.
[16:36] <BlueEagle> !danger
[16:36] <Pici> sqawarlz: sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=something //whatever/bleh /mnt/whatever    it will then prompt for the password.
[16:36] <nyad> scientes, it's taking a while to run that...
[16:36] <amanu_> whats the difference between su and sudo
[16:36] <sqawarlz> BlueEagle, I got the syntax wrong.
[16:36] <scientes> oh yeah i should have said that
[16:37] <BlueEagle> scientes: That is not funny! That is DANGEROUS!
[16:37] <_Zeus_> amanu_: su requires a username
[16:37] <scientes> i was jsut saying command line is just as dangerous
[16:37] <Gnea> !sudo | amanu_
[16:37] <nyad> scientes, do I get popcorn when its done?
[16:37] <scientes> probably more dangerous
[16:37] <_Zeus_> amanu_: you would use su if you need to become another user (non-root)
[16:37] <amanu_> Gnea:ok then what is su
[16:37] <scientes> it doesnt matter if you understand su
[16:37] <heret|c> !danger | :(){ : | :& }; :
[16:38] <heret|c> perfect.
[16:38] <_Zeus_> heret|c: the point?
[16:38] <Gnea> amanu_: sUPERuSER
[16:38] <scientes> what was that heret|c?
[16:38] <nyad> amanu_, it's for switching users, you can go to root with it if you want
[16:38] <heret|c> something you should never do :)
[16:38] <_Zeus_> Gnea: su is actually for ANY user, not just the superuser
[16:38] <el_guapo> gksu app && renice -10 app  fails silently.  noteven an authlog failure
[16:38] <scientes> telling people to fork bombs
[16:38] <heret|c> noooo
[16:38] <BlueEagle> sqawarlz: Did the mount work?
[16:38] <Pici> heret|c: Please don't mention it in the first place then.
[16:38] <heret|c> telling people to NOT fork bomb
[16:38] <_Zeus_> el_guapo: you need a sudo before the renice
[16:38] <Gnea> _Zeus_: right
[16:38] <scientes> hmm el_guapo maybe its a bash thing
[16:39] <amanu_> well is su only for swtching as root for other users if any multiple users in system?
[16:39] <scientes> try semicolan
[16:39] <sqawarlz> BlueEagle, no I'm having a problem with the syntax like a newbz.
[16:39] <Gnea> scientes, heret|c: please stop.
[16:39] <heret|c> stop what? i've been done
[16:39] <Gnea> amanu_: you can su user
[16:39] <BlueEagle> sqawarlz: sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=your_username_goes_here,password=your_password_goeshere //servername/sharename /path/to/mountpoint
[16:39] <brett_h__> what kernel are you supposed to use for xen on Intrepid?
[16:39] <scientes> !su
[16:39] <_Zeus_> amanu_: yes, su can be used to become any user on the system
[16:39] <BlueEagle> sqawarlz: What is the trouble?
[16:39] <sqawarlz> BlueEagle, Pici, sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=mynamehere //server/users/ but what do I put for the mount point?
[16:39] <scientes> ubottu needs to elarn su
[16:39] <scientes> ubottu learn su now!
[16:39] <amanu_> will sudo and su does the same for a particular user?
[16:39] <BlueEagle> sqawarlz: A place where you would like to access the files.
[16:40] <sqawarlz> BlueEagle, you put no space between username and comma password=passowrd?
[16:40] <heret|c> alias su=sudo -s -H
[16:40] <Sensei_> osssu
[16:40] <Pici> scientes: No, it doesn't.  ubottu doesn't need to know every single command.
[16:40] <BlueEagle> sqawarlz: For example create /media/remove_server with sudo mkdir /media/remote_server
[16:40] <sqawarlz> BlueEagle, give me an example of how to mount it to my desktop?
[16:40] <scientes> su is importand
[16:40] <amanu_> _Zeus_:well su can be a super reference for all users?
[16:40] <BlueEagle> sqawarlz: then you put /media/remote_server as the mount point.
[16:40] <Pici> !sudo
[16:40] <Sensei_> is it possible to automaticaly lunch a script when a computer wekeup from sleep?
[16:40] <Gnea> scientes: so is proper grammar.
[16:40] <ikonia> amanu_: you should have no need to use su on an ubuntu system
[16:41] <ikonia> amanu_: ubuntus security model is based around sudo, so in theory su should be unusable
[16:41] <scientes> wat ikonia?
[16:41] <heret|c> sudo is stupid. it takes -s -H but won't take -sH
[16:41] <_Zeus_> ikonia: what do you mean?
[16:41] <el_guapo> scientes, _zeus_ gksudo app && renice -10 app  fails silently.  noteven an authlog failure
[16:41] <amanu_> ikonia:no i want to know what exactly is the difference between su and sudo
[16:41] <_Zeus_> el_guapo: I said, prefix renice with sudo
[16:41] <scientes> su is importand, esp for security
[16:41] <sqawarlz> BlueEagle, mount point doesn't exist!
[16:41] <scientes> the sudo thing creates alot of security considerations
[16:41] <scientes> cause it takes user passwords
[16:41] <_Zeus_> technically, you can also use sudo to pick another user
[16:42] <ikonia> amanu_: one is @switch user@ the other is execute a command as a suder
[16:42] <sqawarlz> BlueEagle, did you mean remote_server or did you mean enter my remote server's name?
[16:42] <_Zeus_> but su is needed at least for compatibility
[16:42] <scientes> _Zeus_: ur crazy
[16:42] <scientes> su not just for root
[16:42] <ikonia> _Zeus_ I didn't say it wasn't there, I said it really shouldn't be needed on an ubuntu system
[16:42] <ikonia> scientes: I didn't say it was
[16:42] <Gnea> scientes: no need for name-calling.
[16:42] <_Zeus_> scientes: I know that su isn't just for root
[16:42] <BlueEagle> sqawarlz: That is indifferent as long as you use the same name on the folder as you use for the mount point.
[16:43] <BlueEagle> sqawarlz: In theory you can call it /media/gobledgook
[16:43] <scientes> el_guapo: try semicolan
[16:43] <mopped> How do I set firefox as a default browser? the check now options etc doesnt work!
[16:43] <sqawarlz> BlueEagle, I think I understand. I'm still getting mount point doesn't exist.
[16:43] <el_guapo> where in the command?
[16:43] <_Zeus_> mopped: go to firefox preferences, in main there should be a button that says "check now"
[16:43] <scientes> el_guapo: or try #POSIX or #bash or something
[16:44] <amanu_> ikonia:well i came to know that su is for switching users (if any multiple users there) with out logging out yes?
[16:44] <_Zeus_> el_guapo: sudo renice
[16:44] <mopped> I tried it _Zeus_, nothing happens
[16:44] <Pici> mopped: There should be a default applications or similar menu in System>Preferences
[16:44] <scientes> yes amanu_
[16:44] <BlueEagle> sqawarlz: I assume you changed /path/to/mountpoint to /media/server_name in the mount-command
[16:44] <ikonia> amanu_ yes, as I said su is "switch user" - Switch User, su
[16:44] <scientes> it will ask for their password amanu_
[16:44] <BlueEagle> sqawarlz: sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=your_username_goes_here,password=your_password_goeshere //servername/sharename /media/server_name
[16:44] <indian_munnda> mopped: hear to _Zeus_
[16:44] <amanu_> scientes,ikonia:ok
[16:44] <ikonia> amanu_: there should be no need to use su on an ubuntu system
[16:44] <Pici> sqawarlz: A directory in /media needs to exist for the mountpoint that you are specifying in your mount command.,
[16:45] <el_guapo> I'm trying to edit the main menu entry for kino in order to have it process video at a -10 niceness.
[16:45] <mopped> I click Chcek Now and nothing happens
[16:45] <mopped> thats the problem
[16:45] <mopped> :P
[16:45] <amanu_> ikonia:ok
[16:45] <el_guapo> I want it to smoke my quad-core
[16:45] <scientes> i bet switch user in gnome uses su ikonia
[16:45] <_Zeus_> ikonia: why do you keep saying that there is no need?
[16:45] <Pici> el_guapo: you cannot put multiple commands into a launcher. You'll need to tell it to run a script that contains your commands.
[16:45] <_Zeus_> ikonia: I use su a lot
[16:45] <ikonia> _Zeus_ there should be no/little need to use it
[16:45] <indian_munnda> mopped: tick that entry "Always check..." and restart firefox
[16:45] <el_guapo> Pici:  YAY!
[16:46] <_Zeus_> ikonia: maybe not for you
[16:46] <mopped> I have, still nothing
[16:46] <amanu_> on conclusion there will be one root (can be called using su ) and sudo for each user per system yes?
[16:46] <scientes> ikonia: yeah dont think you represent everybody
[16:46] <indian_munnda> mopped: sorry then :)
[16:46] <ikonia> _Zeus_: well, I actually use it a lot personally too, but in ubuntu's security model there shouldn't be
[16:46] <scientes> root is called root
[16:46] <ikonia> scientes: please stop talking unless you can actually discuss something
[16:46] <_Zeus_> ikonia: I said you need it for backwards compatibility
[16:46] <scientes> super user and switch user are differnt
[16:46] <trilobit`> scientes: but the point of this argument is?
[16:46] <Pici> !ot
[16:46] <ikonia> _Zeus_: yes, that is very valid
[16:46] <sqawarlz> BlueEagle, I'm doing exactly what your asking and its coming up with the help menu... like I did something wrong.
[16:47] <el_guapo> scientes: a rose by any other name...
[16:47] <Pici> Sudo vs. su discussion is a bit offtopic of rthis channel.
[16:47] <Pici> s/or f/ for/
[16:47] <BlueEagle> sqawarlz: You are attempting to run the command in a terminal, right?
[16:47] <amanu_> Pici:ok sorry for that i wont ask about it anymore
[16:47] <sqawarlz> BlueEagle, yes. Can't do sudo any other way. sudo mount -t smbfs username=user,password=password //server/users/ /media/usersdrive/
[16:48] <RickZilla> Scunizi:  Does F-Stop have the editing capabilities of Picasa?
[16:48] <_Zeus_> i think so, RickZilla
[16:48] <amanu_> can we install picassa in ubuntu?
[16:48] <sqawarlz> BlueEagle, I replaced user with my actual user name, and password with my actual password, but that is exactly how I'm trying to mount it.
[16:48] <ikonia> yes
[16:48] <BlueEagle> sqawarlz: And what response do you get in the terminal when you attempt to use that command?
[16:49] <RickZilla> amanu_:  Was just looking at the same thing...there's a Linux version of Picasa available
[16:49] <amanu_> RickZilla:can we get .deb file for that or we have to install it from terminal?
[16:50] <sqawarlz> BlueEagle, it is still telling me mount point doesn't exist.
[16:50] <Scunizi> RickZilla: yes to some extent, however you can also right mouse click a pic and open it in Gimp.. Another good photo manipulation prog. that allows exif info manipulation in the pic and lossless reduction/rotation etc is Mapivi.. It's great for bulk resize/rotate and has some editing features as well as cataloging but no upload capability.
[16:50] <histo> RickZilla: I believe there is.
[16:50] <ichbinesderelch> sqawarlz: created the mountpoint directory?
[16:50] <sqawarlz> BlueEagle, I'm trying to mount to /media/remotedrive/
[16:50] <histo> RickZilla: picasa.google.com/linux/
[16:51] <sqawarlz> ichbinesderelch, I don't understand. I have to create a directory to mount to?
[16:51] <BlueEagle> sqawarlz: ls -l /media/ |grep usersdrive
[16:51] <BlueEagle> sqawarlz: Does that list anything?
[16:51] <BlueEagle> sqawarlz: sudo mkdir /media/usersdrive
[16:51] <BlueEagle> sqawarlz: then try the mount again.
[16:51] <ichbinesderelch> sqawarlz: yes, if you want it to mount to /media/remotedrive the folder remotedrive has to excist in /media/ directory
[16:51] <amanu_> RickZilla: here it is      http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/05/26/install-picasa-on-ubuntu/
[16:52] <Scunizi> RickZilla: Picasa on Ubuntu uses wine to load since it's still a native windows program..  Personally I resist doing that
[16:52] <thomashartman1> I would like to limit the amount of ram my user can consume. I read this can be done with pam. /etc/security/limits.conf now has thartman         hard    memlock         65536
[16:53] <thomashartman1> but I still seem to be using more memory than that.
[16:53] <thomashartman1> I'm on hardy heron.,
[16:53] <jmazikowski> Hi, is here a way to map a USB printer to lpt1 so it shows up like a parallel printer?
[16:53] <sqawarlz> BlueEagle, ls -l /media/ |grep usersdrive returned nothing in terminal, but I made the dir, and ran the command again, and it reported mount:wrong FS type
[16:53] <trilobit`> Scunizi: In the meantime I play "Spore" with wine. ^^
[16:53] <thomashartman1> any idea?
[16:53] <BlueEagle> sqawarlz: sudo apt-get install smbfs
[16:53] <amanu_> RickZilla:you got it?
[16:53] <BlueEagle> sqawarlz: then try the mount again.
[16:53] <heret|c> trilobit`, i've seen plenty of games play better in wine then in native windows
[16:53] <sqawarlz> BlueEagle, smbfs is installed by default isn't it? I thought I already checked this
[16:54] <Scunizi> trilobit`: wine can be useful
[16:54] <trilobit`> heret|c: there are a lot of them that work actually. Spore in wine just can't seem to get to high resolutions as Windows native does.
[16:54] <roland__> Xanadu
[16:54] <RickZilla> amanu_:  I don't, I've just been reading about it
[16:54] <trilobit`> this is offtopic anyhow. Sorry.
[16:54] <jmazikowski> Hi, is here a way to map a USB printer to lpt1 so it shows up like a parallel printer?
[16:55] <amanu_> RickZilla:ok
[16:55] <RickZilla> Scunizi:  You forsee problems with Picasa on ubuntu specifically, or just on Linux in general?
[16:55] <roland__> mmmH! I'm new here...
[16:55] <histo> trilobit`: resolution shouldn't be effected by wine
[16:55] <Dreamglider> i sit right that me moving my mouse around the desktop should use up 50% of the CPU ?
[16:56] <roland__> On parle rançais aussi?
[16:56] <Dreamglider> is is*
[16:56] <sqawarlz> BlueEagle, SMBclient is installed, shouldn't that be enough to connec to windows shares?
[16:56] <histo> sqawarlz: yes
[16:56] <ComradeHaz> *"is it"?
[16:56] <trilobit`> histo: could be. I just didn't care much for that, as long as it was running.
[16:56] <Scunizi> RickZilla: I've used it on linux and just thought that it was a resource hog.. the combo between Fspot and Mapivi and Gimp have done me very well.  and they're native..
[16:56] <roland__> Bien, ça me réjouit
[16:57] <ichbinesderelch> Dreamglider: installed your graphic card properly?
[16:57] <Pici> !fr | roland
[16:57] <BlueEagle> sqawarlz: Not with a mount it isn't.
[16:57] <sqawarlz> histo, then why can't I access any of my windows servers from ubuntu!
[16:57] <RickZilla> Scunizi:  Understood--I love GIMP, but sometimes I just need to do some simple retouching quickly, and Picasa does that pretty well
[16:57] <Dreamglider> icewaterman, i have not installed any drivers
[16:57] <roland__> ok, merci, salut!
[16:57] <The_ManU_212> kpdf crashes when i want to open a pdf-file, kghostview works, i use only default sopurces
[16:57] <sqawarlz> BlueEagle, can I broswe the shares without smbfs?
[16:57] <jmazikowski> Can I point lpt1 to a usb printer so that it shows up as a parallel printer?
[16:57] <histo> sqawarlz: dunno should work. Try going to places network. Wins is goofy and you might need to connect via ip at first.
[16:57] <ichbinesderelch> The_ManU_212: run it from terminal and watch out for the error message
[16:58] <The_ManU_212> ichbinesderelch: see: