[00:00] <harjot> ign0ramus: my kubuntu [reinstalled] keeps dropping wireless without actually saying so i  have to reconnect every now and again. any ideo whats hapenning????
[00:00] <draik> ign0ramus: "Oh wow, that looks cool. Let me click on the link and check it out... Oh wait, let me reboot", rinse and repeat
[00:00] <draik> ign0ramus: Nope. Is it available?
[00:00] <ign0ramus> draik, it can't hurt; only waste time
[00:00] <ign0ramus> draik, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline
[00:01] <draik> ign0ramus: I'm on 2.6.28-13 right now. I've been waiting for a fix, kernel by kernel, update by update since mid-8.10
[00:01] <ign0ramus> draik, ha - i didn't realize there was a 2.6.31rc already ;)
[00:02] <draik> Yeah, added today. I just saw that
[00:02] <harjot> ign0ramus: my kubuntu [reinstalled] keeps dropping wireless without actually saying so i  have to reconnect every now and again. any ideo whats hapenning???? soz 4 repeating
[00:02] <ign0ramus> harjot, a simple thing to try would be to replace network manager with wicd... for some, it helps with dropped connections
[00:02] <ign0ramus> harjot, remember our talk about repeating your question with a 5-10 minute span? :P
[00:03] <harjot> but how come i didnt have this problem with kubuntu before
[00:03] <draik> ign0ramus: Just add the link as a repo?
[00:03] <ign0ramus> harjot, because Jaunty brought in a lot of new changes... and unfortunately, some regressions too
[00:03] <harjot> im in hardy still................ its better 4 programming etc......
[00:03] <draik> Never mind. I just saw they are debs
[00:03] <ign0ramus> draik, i'm sure you can; i just installed the .debs manually with dpkg
[00:04] <ign0ramus> draik, make sure to install the "all" package first ;)
[00:05] <draik> ign0ramus: Source or Headers "all"?
[00:05] <ign0ramus> draik, headers
[00:06] <ign0ramus> draik, i don't think 'source' is necessary... could be wrong though.  it's happened before :)
[00:07] <draik> I'm not doing anything with a GUI. I'm using wget right now.
[00:07] <draik> Let me rephrase that statement. I'm using the GUI for Kubuntu, but CLI for the download
[00:08] <ign0ramus> draik, even better.  you can just wget the packages with one command; install them with one more :)
[00:08] <draik> ign0ramus: Way ahead of you there ;)
[00:08] <ign0ramus> draik, usually are :)
[00:09] <draik> If that were true, I would have resolved this issue a long time ago and nobody would have known.
[00:10] <draik> ign0ramus: Well, GRUB hasn't been updated.
[00:10] <ign0ramus> draik, it should automatically... if you update it manually, does it see the new image?
[00:10] <draik> That's another thing...
[00:10] <draik> Well, 2 things.
[00:11] <defrysk> maybe 3 ?
[00:11] <draik> 1) How do I update GRUB and 2) How do I update GRUB so that it picks up the new location of the XP HDD (seems that it changed without me knowing)
[00:11] <draik> ?
[00:11] <ign0ramus> draik, 1) 'sudo update-grub'
[00:12] <ign0ramus> draik, 2) i would imagine change your fstab entry
[00:12] <draik> defrysk: I'm full of questions, just none that pertain to this current GRUB issue
[00:12] <draik> ign0ramus: Nope, that didn't work
[00:13] <draik> ign0ramus: I'll just do it over
[00:13] <ign0ramus> draik, i get "Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.30-020630-generic" ... no go?
[00:13] <ign0ramus> draik, yeah try that first
[00:14] <ign0ramus> draik, also, you know if you use UUID to name a device, you can physically change location without adjusting fstab, right?
[00:14] <draik> ign0ramus: Yeah, I got those the first time around. This time, I got that they have already been installed
[00:15] <Makuseru> Every time i try to open kpackagekit my computer freezes. Does anyone know why this would happen?
[00:15] <ign0ramus> draik, does /boot/grub/menu.lst show the new kernel?
[00:15] <draik> ign0ramus: Nope. That's where I've been looking
[00:16] <BluesKaj> Makuseru, because it's unstable and flaky , install Adept
[00:16] <draik> ign0ramus: Just shows my 2.6.28-13
[00:17] <ign0ramus> draik, you're using the 32bit version?
[00:17] <draik> Yup
[00:17] <Makuseru> BluesKaj: I thought that was Adept.
[00:18] <BluesKaj> nope , kpackagkit is a different animal
[00:18] <ign0ramus> draik, maybe uninstall and try again: "wget -c http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.30/linux-headers-2.6.30-020630-generic_2.6.30-020630_i386.deb http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.30/linux-headers-2.6.30-020630_2.6.30-020630_all.deb http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.30/linux-image-2.6.30-020630-generic_2.6.30-020630_i386.deb"
[00:18] <Makuseru> BluesKaj: Ah. Thanks.
[00:19] <ign0ramus> draik, and then just "sudo dpkg -i <same string>"
[00:19] <ign0ramus> draik, that's what i did, and also what's recommended on the Intel Performance Guide
[00:19] <BluesKaj> Makuseru, I've been using aptitude lately , it seems to bring dependencies along and it's upgrade is supposedly safe
[00:20] <Makuseru> BluesKaj: Is apititude different from adept?
[00:20] <draik> ign0ramus: Your string has 'all' as 2nd. What's the combination to use?
[00:21] <ign0ramus> draik, i used the command as exactly above, although someone else was having issues until they installed Source - all first
[00:21] <BluesKaj> yes , it's part of the apt package manager like adept but it's a cli app
[00:22] <draik> ign0ramus: I'll give this a shot and try with 'source' after to see if it does anything.
[00:22] <ign0ramus> draik, that was something they had an issue with but after i wget'd the packages, my command was verbatim:
[00:22] <ign0ramus> draik, sudo dpkg -i linux-headers-2.6.30-020630-generic_2.6.30-020630_i386.deb linux-headers-2.6.30-020630_2.6.30-020630_all.deb linux-image-2.6.30-020630-generic_2.6.30-020630_i386.deb
[00:22] <ign0ramus> brb, dinner
[00:25] <BluesKaj> Makuseru, adept is a gui of apt
[00:25] <dio_> hello people
[00:25] <BluesKaj> !apt | Makuseru
[00:26] <dio_> did any one run linux under new INTEL I7 ?
[00:26] <BluesKaj> Makuseru, also http://phorolinux.com/apt-get-aptitude-quick-reference.html
[00:27] <dio_> synaptic can run under KDE
[00:29] <draik> ign0ramus_afk: Nope. That didn't fix it either. The main test, which ALWAYS kills my network connection, is going to symantec and downloading an update that I need for my XP virtualbox
[01:00] <dio_> did any one test intel I7 performance under Linux?
[01:02] <dio_> did someone test the new Intel I7 on Linux
[01:06] <max__> How can I get konqueror to display a preview of an image when i hover over it?
[01:13] <draik> ign0ramus: No luck.  Network and USB work seamlessly
[01:15] <ign0ramus> draik, is this just on the AAO?
[01:15] <draik> ign0ramus: The issues are on my desktop, not AAO
[01:16] <ign0ramus> draik, is the same desktop you've had for a while or a newer one?
[01:16] <max__> Hi, anytime i try to open the settings in Konqueror my computer hangs-up. Does anyone know what would cause this?
[01:17] <draik> ign0ramus: Same I've had for 4-5 years.
[01:18] <ign0ramus> draik, and previous versions worked well?
[01:18] <ign0ramus> *of kubuntu
[01:18] <draik> ign0ramus: 6.06-8.04 were great
[01:18] <ign0ramus> draik, whats the card?
[01:20] <draik> ign0ramus: All built-in, which is what I don't understand, but the network card is Rhine chipset, IIRC
[01:21] <ign0ramus> draik, not that it would 'fix' your problem, but why not get a cheap pci card. wireless, even?
[01:21] <draik> ign0ramus: I don't run wifi at home and there's no need for another card if I can't begin to resolve this one.
[01:21] <ign0ramus> draik, you've been messing with this for months now
[01:23] <draik> ign0ramus: I know.
[01:23] <ign0ramus> draik, you have much more patience than i.
[01:23] <ign0ramus> draik, also, you have many more computers, too, so i guess that helps :)
[01:24] <draik> ign0ramus: Patience? Yeah, I suppose. It just gets really annoying when you can't solve an issue that doesn't give you a starting point of where you should really begin to troubleshoot.
[01:25] <ign0ramus> draik, it would be nicer if there was an easy way to replicate other than "when i update my virtualbox's install of Symantec inside a linux host"...
[01:26] <ign0ramus> draik, doesn't make for an effective search string
[01:27] <ign0ramus> draik, what driver is the kernel using for networking?
[01:28] <draik> ign0ramus: How can I check on the kernel?
[01:29] <ign0ramus> draik, hmmm... lsmod? (good question)
[01:33] <draik> ign0ramus: I'm afraid to do a Google search and come up with network disconnection.
[01:33] <ign0ramus> draik, is Rhine VIA?
[01:33] <draik> ign0ramus: Yeah. via_rhine
[01:33] <je_obolggs> yes via is rhine
[01:33] <je_obolggs> it was an early ethernet if i remember
[01:33] <ign0ramus> draik, via has a section for linux chipset drivers
[01:33] <draik> URL?
[01:34] <ign0ramus> draik, http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=2&OSID=45&CatID=3220
[01:34] <ign0ramus> draik, woops try here: http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=2&OSID=45&CatID=3160
[01:34] <draik> ign0ramus: I hope I don't freeze the network
[01:35] <LuisJa> ign0ramus: what xop bro, i need ur help
[01:35] <ign0ramus> hey LuisJa
[01:35] <ign0ramus> LuisJa, i can try... :)
[01:35] <LuisJa> oh lol good
[01:35] <draik> ign0ramus: How do I find out which one I have from the list?
[01:36] <LuisJa> see, i have the runescape page: http://www.runescape.com/game.ws?j=1 , I try to enter but it says than i dont have java, something rare because i already installed it with terminal, there may be something missing?
[01:36] <ign0ramus> draik, "lspci -v" (?) if the kernel detects it correctly
[01:36] <draik> ign0ramus: Never mind. I have VT6102, which is, of course, not on the list
[01:36] <ign0ramus> draik, great.
[01:37] <max__> Hi, anytime i try to open the settings in Konqueror my computer hangs-up. Does anyone know what would cause this?
[01:37] <ign0ramus> LuisJa, loads ok here... do you have "kubuntu-restricted-extras" installed?
[01:37] <ign0ramus> LuisJa, that will bring in Java
[01:38] <LuisJa> some guy tell me the same things, and i puted in terminal: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras, install okay but i cant still enter the page
[01:38] <LuisJa> its boring as hell to go to vista to play runescape when u r extremely boring lol
[01:38] <ign0ramus> LuisJa, can you pastebin the output of " sudo update-java-alternatives -l "?
[01:39] <LuisJa> one second
[01:39] <LuisJa> luis@ubuntu:~$ sudo update-java-alternatives -l
[01:39] <LuisJa> java-6-sun 63 /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun
[01:40] <ign0ramus> LuisJa, and 'java -version' ? (just post the one line that shows the version number)
[01:40] <draik> ign0ramus: It's as if my chipset doesn't exist ;(
[01:40] <draik> :(
[01:41] <LuisJa> java version "1.6.0_13"
[01:41] <ign0ramus> draik, i wonder if the driver on Hardy is different than the one Jaunty uses... do you have a Hardy livecd somewhere?
[01:41] <draik> ign0ramus: Nope
[01:41] <ign0ramus> LuisJa, you have a newer version than me (1.6.0_0)... hmmm
[01:41] <LuisJa> LOL
[01:42] <max__> How can i get Dolphin to dispay the actual image as the icon in "icon view"
[01:42] <draik> ign0ramus: I think I may have found a solution. Sit tight.
[01:42] <ign0ramus> draik, sitting.
[01:42] <ign0ramus> LuisJa, you are using firefox?
[01:42] <LuisJa> yes
[01:42] <draik> ign0ramus: tightly?
[01:42] <LuisJa> i meanç
[01:42] <LuisJa> ign0ramus: yes
[01:42] <ign0ramus> draik, taut.
[01:43] <ign0ramus> LuisJa, you have Java enabled in Preferences?
[01:43] <LuisJa> where?
[01:43] <ign0ramus> LuisJa, Edit > Preferences
[01:43] <khaije|amalt> bluetooth on kde4... whats the status?
[01:44] <draik> ign0ramus: Rebooting
[01:44] <ign0ramus> draik, i'll be here
[01:44] <LuisJa> okay... i am lose lol
[01:44] <LuisJa> how i can access "edit
[01:44] <LuisJa> "
[01:44] <draik> ign0ramus: As will I. I love having this server for my IRC needs.
[01:44] <ign0ramus> LuisJa, in Firefox, click Edit at the top left, then Preferences
[01:44] <ign0ramus> draik, :)
[01:44] <LuisJa> oh ROFL srry i thinked u mean in java
[01:45] <ign0ramus> LuisJa, one step at a time :)
[01:45] <draik> ign0ramus: Moment of truth. Going to download that symantec update.
[01:45] <LuisJa> okay i am in the preferences windows
[01:46] <LuisJa> in what tab?
[01:46]  * ign0ramus crosses fingers
[01:46] <LuisJa> content? aplications?
[01:46] <ign0ramus> LuisJa, content
[01:46] <ign0ramus> LuisJa, 'enable javascript'
[01:46] <LuisJa> java already enabled lol
[01:46] <ign0ramus> LuisJa, ok, lets test your install.  go here in firefox: http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml
[01:47] <max__> Every time i try to open the "configure konqueror" tab it crashes my computer. Does anyone know why this would happen?
[01:47] <LuisJa> btw ign0ramus, how i can go to links from irc with firefox, because when i click in the link, it opens the windows with konqueror
[01:48] <ign0ramus> LuisJa, set default web browser as firefox in System Settings :)
[01:48] <draik> ign0ramus: Nope. NOt the solution. Download froze at 2.3MB out of 52.8MB and the transfer rate of 131KB/s.
[01:48] <ign0ramus> draik, what did you try?
[01:49] <draik> ign0ramus: acpi=noirq in the boot menu
[01:49] <ign0ramus> draik, i still think it's a driver issue, although i don't have much basis for that, other than that it worked fine in Hardy and less
[01:50] <draik> ign0ramus: I tried that boot option from the Ubuntu Forums.
[01:50] <LuisJa> ign0ramus: good, now firefox is my default browser :)
[01:51] <ign0ramus> LuisJa, well that's one problem down :)
[01:51] <LuisJa> LOL i see the page and says java is not working in my pc...
[01:52] <ign0ramus> LuisJa, i would uninstall however you installed java, and use the kubuntu-restricted-extras version
[01:52] <LuisJa> how i can do that?
[01:52] <ign0ramus> draik, does "lsmod | grep via-rhine" give any output?
[01:52] <ign0ramus> LuisJa, how did you install it?
[01:53] <LuisJa> sudo apt-get sunjava6
[01:53] <LuisJa> i believe
[01:53] <draik> ign0ramus: via-rhine, no. via_rhine, yes.
[01:53] <ign0ramus> draik, hmm... let me read more
[01:53] <ign0ramus> LuisJa, do you have "sun-java6-plugin" installed?
[01:54] <LuisJa> oh yes, is that
[01:54] <LuisJa> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[01:56] <ign0ramus> LuisJa, yes
[01:56] <ign0ramus> draik, do you also have the "rt2500" module loaded?
[01:57] <draik> ign0ramus: That would be listed with lsmod, right? If so, I don't see it anywhere and assume "no"
[01:57] <ign0ramus> draik, yes, and then no.  ok.
[01:58] <ign0ramus> draik, wth? everyone is saying that "acpi=noirq" is a valid fix...
[01:58] <draik> ign0ramus: I disprove
[01:59] <ign0ramus> draik, i know... granted this thread was from an older kernel...
[02:00] <ign0ramus> draik, have you seen this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-config/+bug/111282
[02:01] <draik> ign0ramus: Rebooted and about to login. Gimme a sec
[02:02] <draik> ign0ramus: Looking
[02:02] <ign0ramus> LuisJa, you still there?  if so, restart firefox and test your java again
[02:02] <draik> ign0ramus: No, but I am reading it now
[02:03] <LuisJa> srry i was eating
[02:04] <LuisJa> what did u say me?
[02:04] <max__> Every time i try to open the "configure konqueror" tab it crashes my computer.  I'll try that in a bit
[02:10] <LuisJa> seriously u save me from the pain of changing from vista to linux and viceversa :)
[02:10] <LuisJa> i owe u one lol
[02:10] <ign0ramus> LuisJa, like i tell you, i can only try.  ask draik... there are plenty of things i cannot fix ;)
[02:11] <ign0ramus> LuisJa, you don't live too far... if i get out your way, you can buy me 1 drink :P
[02:11] <LuisJa> Panamá not too far? lol
[02:11] <LuisJa> good, i will buy u one chivas real lol ;)
[02:11] <ign0ramus> LuisJa, oh, nvm... yeah, that's a bit far for una cerveza :P
[02:11] <LuisJa> :D
[02:12] <LuisJa> oh i just noticed one thing
[02:12] <LuisJa> in the verification box says this:
[02:12] <LuisJa> Your r using an older version of JRE
[02:12] <ign0ramus> LuisJa, that's ok.  i am too :P
[02:13] <LuisJa> oh lol ok
[02:13] <ign0ramus> LuisJa, stick with the packaged ones... if you install the newer binary from sun, it makes things messy :)
[02:13] <kaddi_> newest java version is 6.14, if you installed java6 you should have at least 6.13
[02:14] <LuisJa> ok, thx bro :p
[02:14] <ign0ramus> kaddi_, i saw that too, but i have 1.6.0_0
[02:14] <draik> ign0ramus: I think I fixed it
[02:14] <ign0ramus> draik, really?
[02:14] <draik> ign0ramus: The update is downloading right now.
[02:14] <ign0ramus> draik, what'd you do?
[02:14] <draik> ign0ramus: Something YOU said.
[02:14] <kaddi_> ign0ramus: really? how odd.. 1.6.0 is 2 years old and has some serious security issues.
[02:15] <ign0ramus> draik, bwahahahahaha
[02:15] <max__> Hi, I think something is really wrong with my kubuntu, I installed this morning(fresh install) and since then I've had four programs (jackctl, konqueror, kpackagewin, and quassel) all make my system completely lock up. How can i figure out why they are doing this, and stop them from continuing to do this?
[02:16] <ign0ramus> kaddi_, i have all the offical jaunty repos, and installing java6 and doing 'java -version' reports 1.6.0_0
[02:16] <draik> ign0ramus: When you said that comment about the 'old kernel', I thought, "What about my older kernel, 2.6.28-13? It's not old, but it's my actual latest one." Booted up into that one with the acpi=noirq and VIOLA!
[02:16] <LuisJa> ahh... holda ign0ramus there is something rare
[02:16] <LuisJa> no sound in runescape :(
[02:16] <ign0ramus> draik, haha!
[02:16] <LuisJa> but very fast at least :)
[02:16] <kaddi_> ign0ramus: ah, I did apt-cache policy it said 6.13
[02:16] <LuisJa> i thinked it will go slow as hell lol
[02:16] <ign0ramus> LuisJa, probably an issue with pulseaudio
[02:17] <ign0ramus> Mamarok, are you there? we have something rare!
[02:17] <draik> ign0ramus: DOWNLOAD COMPLETE!!!
[02:17] <ign0ramus> draik, success!
[02:17] <LuisJa> can we fix that?
[02:17] <draik> ign0ramus: AND I STILL HAVE INTERNET/NETWORK ACCESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! \o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/
[02:17] <ign0ramus> LuisJa, yeah, Mamarok is the expert on this one, though, and i don't think she's around
[02:18] <LuisJa> oh well...
[02:18] <ign0ramus> draik, that's almost worthy of a kirby dance!
[02:18] <draik> ign0ramus: Oooohh, yeah.  Answer: My network
[02:23] <max__> Hi, I think something is really wrong with my kubuntu, I installed this morning(fresh install) and since then I've had four programs (jackctl, konqueror, kpackagewin, and quassel) all make my system completely lock up. How can i figure out why they are doing this, and stop them from continuing to do this?
[02:24] <macheljackson> I get an error when I invoke Kget saying: Plugin loader could not load the plugin: kget_bittorentfactory.  Any idea?
[02:28] <draik> I wonder if that also fixed my USB issue. One way to find out. Good morning/day/afternoon/evening/night everyone.
[02:41] <dhq> my amaroK2.0.2 doesnt have an equalizer
[02:41] <dhq> anyideas
[02:42] <coz_> hey guys... how to install kdm themes?
[02:46] <kaddi_> dhq: it's not implemented yet. It is on their list, but not ready.
[02:46] <kaddi_> afaik
[02:46] <dhq> kaddi_: hmm ok
[02:47] <dhq> guess i will have to use a better player ... anyideas which is good
[02:48] <macheljackson> dhq: Mplayer, it also get equalizer.
[02:48] <max__> dhq: You can also just install amarok 1.4.
[02:49] <dhq> well which other player is good
[02:49] <dhq> wanna try something new
[02:50] <max__> Hi, I think something is really wrong with my kubuntu, I installed this morning(fresh install) and since then I've had four programs (jackctl, konqueror, kpackagewin, and quassel) all make my system completely lock up. How can i figure out why they are doing this, and stop them from continuing to do this?
[02:51] <kaddi_> dhq: from what I find with google this is more of a problem with phonon than with amarok. amarok 2.2 does not seem to have the eq yewt, though
[02:52] <dhq> kaddi_: which player has an equalizer with kde4
[02:53] <kaddi_> dhq: idk, I use amarok2 but I ain't to happy with it either, for different reasons. I'm no user of inbuilt equalizers
[02:53] <Serpardum> what are the names of the disk partion software?  I forgets
[02:54] <kaddi_> gparted?
[02:54] <g0usl> dhq try VLC I have been using it for years It is on the Gnome desktop here
[02:54] <Serpardum> let me see kaddi_... thanks
[02:54] <dhq> g0usl: but it doesnt have a playlist and all
[02:54] <Serpardum> that o ne I don't have installed.  must be anotehr one
[02:54] <kaddi_> qparted or kparted?
[02:54] <kaddi_> :p
[02:55] <g0usl> It should have
[02:55] <dhq> qtparted
[02:55] <dhq> :)
[02:55] <Serpardum> kparted not foudn.  I have parted
[02:55] <Serpardum> text based
[02:55] <g0usl> Yeah the version here does, just checked
[02:56] <kaddi_> the gparted, kparted and qtparted are simply frontends for parted
[02:56] <dhq> true
[02:57] <dhq> kaddi_: do you know any mp3 players with equalizers
[02:57] <Dragnslcr> qtparted isn't maintained anymore. The new program is partitionmanager
[02:59] <kaddi_> dhq: no I don't use equalizers.. amarok1.4 has been mentioned. the gnome-default-musicplayer is called rythmbox, but I'm sure there are more
[02:59] <kaddi_> Dragnslcr: thanks, didn't know that :)
[03:00] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, though it's very weird having a KDE program without a k in the name
[03:00] <khaije|amalt> anyone else get a google voice invite today?
[03:00] <khaije|amalt> w00t!
[03:01] <max__> Hi, I think something is really wrong with my kubuntu, I installed this morning(fresh install) and since then I've had four programs (jackctl, konqueror, kpackagewin, and quassel) all make my system completely lock up. How can i figure out why they are doing this, and stop them from continuing to do this?
[03:02] <kaddi_> Dragnslcr: I've found all those new names way to confusing and simply but aliases up for the most important apps. :D You know why they decided to get away from the k-names?
[03:02] <Dragnslcr> I think most of them are still ksomething
[03:03] <Dragnslcr> I don't count Quassel, since it's still not as good as Konversation
[03:03] <kaddi_> hehe, agreed :D
[03:03] <Dragnslcr> max__- completely lock up as in you have to hit the power button on your computer?
[03:04] <max__> Dragnslcr: Yes.
[03:04] <Dragnslcr> Most of the times I've seen that, it's a hardware issue, often the video card overheating and locking up
[03:05] <Dragnslcr> Is it freezing randomly, or can you reproduce it reliably?
[03:05] <max__> I can reproduce it.
[03:05] <max__> It only happens with certian programs.
[03:05] <max__> Each time, every time.
[03:05] <Dragnslcr> Hm
[03:06] <max__> Ive got a Nvidie Geforce 8200M for a graphics card.
[03:06] <max__> Nvidia*
[03:06] <Dragnslcr> Does it happen as soon as you start those programs, or after some time?
[03:07] <max__> As soon as i stat them, except for Konqueror, which only locks up when i try to go to "konqueror settings"
[03:07] <Dragnslcr> I think you may be quite a bit over my head on this one
[03:07] <Serpardum> thanks, gparted works fine
[03:08] <Dragnslcr> All I can think of is to install the debug packages and see if you get anything useful in a log file
[03:08] <max__> Alright.
[03:20] <togetic> anyone want to help me to get X working? http://pastebin.com/f4078070e
[03:23] <oddy> hi everyone
[03:24] <oddy> am i at the right place
[03:24] <oddy> this is my first time here
[03:24] <oddy> is this some sort of help club?
[03:29] <Serpardum> Using partiionmanager and gparted I don't see an option for creating NTFS.  How do I add that functionality?
[03:30] <Dragnslcr> Let me look up the package name
[03:30] <Dragnslcr> ntfs-3g
[03:31] <Serpardum> hmm. I already have taht installed :/  let me see if Ic an run it
[03:32] <Serpardum> already got that.  dang.  I guess i"ll have to go with fat32
[03:32] <Dragnslcr> Let me check
[03:39] <Dragnslcr> Serpardum- try ntfsprogs
[03:52] <Serpardum> let met ry Dragnslcr
[04:06] <Werenerd> Evening all. I just upgraded to KDE4 and for the life of me I cannot get the weather to work. I tried putting my zipcode, but it is never found. Anyone have this problem?
[04:08] <togetic> Werenerd: i had problems with weather widget as well, it was awhile go though, so i can't say if it's been fixed or not
[04:08] <togetic> this was about 3-4 months ago
[04:08] <max__> How do I disable effects?
[04:09] <togetic> max__: system settings
[04:09] <togetic> kmenu > computer > system settings
[04:09] <togetic> iirc
[04:09] <max__> togetic: where in sys settings?
[04:09] <max__> Found it.
[04:10] <togetic> it's been awhile since i've used kde, nearly 2 weeks now since x.org is giving me problems
[04:10] <togetic> still :\
[04:10] <togetic> i've begged on about 6 channels for help tonight too
[04:15] <dhq> i have kubuntu 9.04 ... now i have a 1tb harddrive and want to share files over the local network using a web browser with admin capabilities what do i do
[04:21] <BluesKaj> dhq, install samba and you can use the smb client in the addressbar, like so. smb:/
[04:21] <BluesKaj> with konqueror
[04:22] <dhq> BluesKaj: i dont wanna use samba
[04:22] <dhq> BluesKaj: i need something professional
[04:22] <BluesKaj> or dolphin /places/network
[04:22] <BluesKaj> professional ?
[04:23] <dhq> BluesKaj: yup
[04:23] <dhq> like have a username and password with a webinterface
[04:24] <BluesKaj> well, most will ask for a username and pw , even samba
[04:25] <dhq> BluesKaj: i need to create usernames and pass for individual users
[04:27] <BluesKaj> that's done on the server shares
[04:29] <BluesKaj> anyway sacktime for me
[04:48] <Serpardum> I was borusing with firefox and I did.. something.. with mouse and then I saw all my open windows where I could select one, not like the alt tab.  How do I do that on purpose?
[04:56] <genii> Serpardum: Likely uoi clicked on the down-arrow to the right of the tabs, it lists open windows
[04:59] <Serpardum> it was more like that alt-tab, with the window pictures, but instead of them being 3d like that does, it showed them all on teh desktop flat
[05:00] <Serpardum> I have never seen it before like that, I know the down arrow is a list
[05:09] <genii> Serpardum: In Compiz if you do ctrl-alt-downarrow/uparrow it has a similar effect.
[05:15] <Matthew_C> Does kubuntu have a way to split a winxp disk and install dual-boot w/o hurting existing winxp?
[05:15] <tak_> hi
[05:16] <tak_> My name Anh kiet
[05:16] <tak_> I from VietNam
[05:16] <tak_> And you
[05:16] <Serpardum> ctrl-alt-down arrow does nothing
[05:17] <yjchoi> hi
[05:19] <genii> Matthew_C: The livecd partitioner can resize any partitions if you install the filesystem support for whatever it is. So if you have ntfsprogs installed it can resize ntfs partitions, tc
[05:21] <Matthew_C> how can i know what filesystem xp is using?
[05:21] <genii> !vn | tak_ You may be interested that there is also a Vietnamese ubuntu channel :
[05:21] <genii> Matthew_C: 2000,XP, Vista, Win 7 all use NTFS
[05:22] <tak_> how conect ISA server to OS Kubuntu
[05:22] <genii> Matthew_C: win3.x,95/98/ME all use FAT
[05:25] <genii> tak_: As I understand, ISA server is just a proxy. So you can just tell Kubuntu to use whatever the ISA IP#/Name and ports the other boxes would use on it
[05:27] <SirMoo> Is "You may be interested" correct English? Aint it "You might be"?
[05:28] <genii> SirMoo: Probably
[05:31] <LuisJa> Mamarok: ei mama, i got one java problem, i am playing runescape in kubuntu but i dont have sound, what can be happening'
[05:33] <SirMoo> Aint sound a common RS issue?
[05:36] <SirMoo> I no longer play but having done support on there in the past, I'm guessing it's not really a kubuntu problem.
[05:40] <ComunisTico> hi i need help with my pc. i bought a a 1gb memory expansion for my laptop and when i try booting the screen wont turn on
[05:40] <ComunisTico> i have no idea what could it be. with 8.10 the pc would turn on but froze around 1 hour after booting, no it just ont turn up on 9.04
[05:42] <SirMoo> Are you using the correct ram. o.O
[06:13] <yoga> I already install the w32codecs package, by I still cannot play wma file in Amarok?
[07:11] <numen> hello
[07:11] <nova> hello
[07:12] <numen> i want to use wifi with my kubuntu 7.10, with ubuntu it works, but ist there no wifi manager with kubuntu?
[07:18] <Serpardum> I'm trying to play an (admittedly cheap) DVD of a movie.  It shows the previews, but won't show the movie.  I go to the cd directory, and it won't play the VOB files.    This is a video I rented from RedBox, B movie at best.  Any ideas?
[07:19] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Serpardum: Do you have the DVD-CSS stuff installed?
[07:20] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Serpardum: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[07:22] <numen> i want to use wifi with my kubuntu 7.10, with ubuntu it works, but ist there no wifi manager with kubuntu?
[07:23] <netdaemon> question about the default quassel package in kubuntu...will i be able to connect to the core component from another machine?
[07:23] <netdaemon> or do i need to install quassel-core for that functionality
[07:25] <genii> numen: 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is no longer supported or maintained
[07:26] <genii> netdaemon: You may want to ask in #quassel (if you can find someone awake in there)
[07:28] <numen> genii i tried with 9.04, but there is no wifi manager, too
[07:31] <genii> numen: I'm not currently on kde4 ... but I believe you need to add the Network Manager widget or so
[07:43] <jazman> got an old pc amd 400 256 ram any ideas on good linux distro for it other than puppy or dsl
[07:43] <genii> Xubuntu ? ;)
[07:43] <jazman> trying soon
[07:43] <jazman> hardy i going may have to go to draper
[07:44] <dsmith_> hi I cannot get glxgears to run
[07:44] <dsmith_> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[07:44] <dsmith_> i have to enable glx, but not sure on how
[07:45] <dsmith_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/204748/
[07:48] <genii> jazman: Also Vector Linux is pretty good minimal type dist
[07:48] <jazman> good ill look it up
[07:49] <CoJaBo-Aztec> When copying ~10,000 JPEG images using Dolphin, how do I stop it from displaying a "failed to set permissions" error for every siingle one of them?
[07:52] <genii> CoJaBo-Aztec: You're copying files to or from a FAT or NTFS drive?
[07:55] <CoJaBo-Aztec> genii: NTFS or mounted share, both give the same error.
[07:57] <makuseru> Hi, can someone help me with wireless? Under the "Network Manager" icon it shows "WLAN Interface Disconnected" under the 'wireless' tab. But when I click the check mark for connect nothing happens, there is an option for "connect to hidden network" but when I click on that it just opens a dialog box and asks for a "ssid".
[07:57] <shadeslayer> makuseru: then put your ssid and click connect
[07:58] <shadeslayer> hidden networks do not broadcast their essid
[07:59] <shadeslayer> makuseru: also is there some kind of switch to bring the wifi card up??
[07:59] <makuseru> What is an ssid?
[07:59] <makuseru> I dont think there is. I'm not sure.
[08:01] <shadeslayer> makuseru: ok do >> sudo ifconfig wlan0 up << in a terminal
[08:01] <shadeslayer> then >> iwlist scan << for wireless networks
[08:01] <shadeslayer> ill brb...
[08:03] <shadeslayer> makuseru: now...did any info come up on the last command?
[08:05] <SirMoo> What exacally IS swap space?
[08:06] <shadeslayer> !swap | SirMoo
[08:06] <netdaemon> SirMoo: think page file
[08:06] <max__> !wireless
[08:09] <netdaemon> hrm...still slightly confused by the "mono" version and the quassel-{client,core} bits
[08:11] <Max4445> !wireless
[08:12] <shadeslayer> netdaemon: i am *always* confused by their versions.....thus i use irssi :)
[08:13] <netdaemon> shadeslayer: i usually use weechat + screen but i'm intriqued by quassel, mainly out of lazyness for maximizing and clicking long links...
[08:14] <shadeslayer> netdaemon: hehe...well i think i have the quassel with distributed core component
[08:14] <netdaemon> probably
[08:15] <netdaemon> i was trying to connect from another system, doesn't seem it wants to
[08:15] <netdaemon> alright yes, you need the split components if you want the screen like features it seems
[08:15] <shadeslayer> netdaemon: yep..
[08:16] <netdaemon> i'll be back in a sec then
[08:16] <shadeslayer> makuseru: there??
[08:16] <netdaemon> i'm on the monolithic client right now...
[08:21] <netdaemon> this will work wonderfully :)
[08:21] <shadeslayer> netdaemon: hehe..
[08:22] <netdaemon> hmm i should probably look into apparmor...
[08:22] <netdaemon> contain this silly quassel-core :)
[08:25] <ubuntu> hola
[08:26] <SirMoo> "The attempt to mount a file system with type ext2 in SCSI1 (0,0,0), partition #3 (sda) at / failed.
[08:26] <SirMoo> >_> Twice now.
[08:26] <ubuntu> yes
[08:27] <SirMoo> Wha'd I do wrong? D=
[08:29] <genii> SirMoo: Are you getting this message during boot?
[08:29] <SirMoo> No, I'm trying ot reinstall.
[08:29] <max__> Hi, can someone help me figure out how to use my wireless connection? When I click on Network Manager in the tray it says "wlan interface disconnected" and when I click the check to connect, nothing happens. But there is text that says "connect to hidden network" and when i click that a box opens that says "enter hidden ssid and press enter"
[08:31] <genii> SirMoo: Can you pastebin result of: sudo fdisk -l
[08:31] <genii> (I imagine you are on the livecd)
[08:32] <SirMoo> Mm. No. o.O I pop it in... and click install.
[08:32] <SirMoo> I've done it three times now. (each time something ends up going wrong and I can no longer boot to Kubuntu after I boot to VISTA )
[08:32] <genii> SirMoo: From inside Windows?
[08:32] <SirMoo> No. I booted to the CD.
[08:33] <shadeslayer> max__: in a terminal type >> sudo ifconfig wlan0 up <<
[08:33] <Gamarok__> hey shadeslayer
[08:33] <shadeslayer> Gamarok__: hey
[08:34] <genii> SirMoo: If you booted up to the graphical interface of the cdrom, this is the "livecd" I speak of
[08:34] <SirMoo> Then clicked the install thing... Go through the steps... Partion I have sda1 (ntfs) (I think it's a recovery?) then sda2 (ntfs (vista)) then sd3 (ext2) kubuntu which I want to redo... and sda5 is swap.
[08:35] <shadeslayer> SirMoo: why ext2? why not ext3 or ext4?
[08:35] <SirMoo> Whats the difference?
[08:35] <SirMoo> o.O I just clicked which ever I felt at the time.
[08:36] <genii> ext2 is fine. You can convert it ext3 or 4 later if you want
[08:36] <netdaemon> ext3 has journaling, which makes data recovery quicker
[08:36] <netdaemon> say after...a power outage
[08:36] <shadeslayer> SirMoo: well ext4 boots up pretty fast :)
[08:36] <netdaemon> data is less likely to get corrupt with an ext{3,4} filesystem
[08:37] <genii> shadeslayer: filesystem reviews aside, the problem at the moment is to find why install is failing
[08:37] <shadeslayer> genii: ok
[08:37] <SirMoo> After the first few times it never failed... I have no idea why it's failing now though.
[08:37] <SirMoo> Mount point is / right?
[08:38] <genii> SirMoo: The "root" filesystem is mounted at  /   normally, yes.
[08:38] <shadeslayer> SirMoo: a pastebin of sudo fdisk -l would be nice
[08:39] <genii> SirMoo: You can open Konsole on the Kubuntu install cdrom to issue the command
[08:39] <SirMoo> As I said. It's not the desktop. o.O
[08:39] <shadeslayer> SirMoo: then which cd do you have?
[08:40] <SirMoo> My options are "Try Ubuntu (plus other stuff) then install ubuntu then check cd for defects and a few other things.
[08:40] <genii> SirMoo: You said you booted up the cdrom. And it has something you can click on (eg: graphical)
[08:40] <shadeslayer> SirMoo: use the try ubuntu option
[08:41] <shadeslayer> genii: i think he's still on the menu ><
[08:43]  * genii makes more coffee
[08:44] <shadeslayer> SirMoo: any progress?
[08:45] <SirMoo> Ehh. I switched to ext4 and now I'm not getting the error.
[08:45] <shadeslayer> \o/...
[08:48] <shadeslayer> SirMoo: best of luck with the install :)
[08:48] <SirMoo> My real problem ends up being I can boot to Kubuntu fine... then I restart and boot to Vista then restart and can no longer boot to Kubuntu. D=
[08:48] <SirMoo> Hints why this makes about installation five or six this week.
[08:49] <shadeslayer> SirMoo: does grub load?
[08:49] <SirMoo> It says loading grub then goes to another screen and shows a blinking underscore.
[08:49] <shadeslayer> SirMoo: s console with grub>
[08:49] <shadeslayer> -s
[08:50] <genii> And then you get the:  <SirMoo> "The attempt to mount a file system with type ext2 in SCSI1 (0,0,0), partition #3 (sda) at / failed.    ?
[08:50] <SirMoo> No.
[08:50] <SirMoo> Genii, completely different.
[08:50] <SirMoo> o.O
[08:50] <SirMoo> Alright. the install is just about done.
[08:50] <shadeslayer> SirMoo: what error do you get after you boot into vista and try to boot kubuntu?
[08:51] <SirMoo> I don't get an error. just a black screen with a blinking _
[08:51] <shadeslayer> SirMoo: you get grub though,right??
[08:51] <SirMoo> I'm pretty sure I do. I belive it says LOADING Grub or something along those lines.
[08:51] <genii> So boot sector is fine
[08:52] <shadeslayer> SirMoo: yes,then it displays an option of various OS's
[08:52] <shadeslayer> genii: seems fine to me,i think maybe the grub menu.lst is at fault maybe
[08:52] <shadeslayer> -maybe..
[08:53] <SirMoo> D= Now where is my CD case.
[08:53] <shadeslayer> yay for new neon packages :)
[08:54] <genii> shadeslayer:  Since it happens after he runs Windows, reboots and then it fails... my suspicion is that Vista is using the partition for something, like a scratch disk or such stupidity.
[08:54] <fg56xfd> Hi. Under my network manager when I try to connect to wifi, it says "enter hidden ssid and press <enter>" what is a ssid and how can i find it so i can enter it?
[08:55] <shadeslayer> genii: probably...
[08:55] <shadeslayer> fg56xfd: are you the same person i answered 2 times already?
[08:55] <shadeslayer> looks like it...
[08:55] <SirMoo> Alright...  Grubloading stage 1.5 yadda yadda. That what you were talking about
[08:57] <fg56xfd> Hi. Under my network manager when I try to connect to wifi, it says "enter hidden ssid and press <enter>" what is a ssid and how can i find it so i can enter it?
[08:57] <SirMoo> o___o Repetition!
[08:57] <numen> i have problem with kubuntu 8.10, my screen allways goes black and after a half second, i have the kde, what is the problem?
[08:59] <SirMoo> Mmkay, so vista loaded fine and is working now time to restart.
[08:59] <genii> numen: I'm not clear on your problem. The screen goes off a lot then comes right back on again?
[08:59] <numen> its like blinking
[09:00] <numen> genii it switchs black and after very short time, i have back, the kde desktop
[09:00] <numen> it looks like, screen switchs off
[09:00] <SirMoo> Omfg! It worked!
[09:00] <SirMoo> D= Wait. Now a blank screen.
[09:01] <SirMoo> But no underscore... that could be good. YAY! Loading.
[09:01] <SirMoo> Maybe it's just the ext 2 thinger?
[09:01] <SirMoo> And since I did ex4 all it well?
[09:01] <genii> SirMoo: If you had ext4 previously and told it during install ext2 and not to format the partition could be the issue
[09:02] <SirMoo> I'd offer hugs now since it seemed to work. But it might make some of yall uncomfortable.
[09:02]  * SirMoo nods.
[09:02] <numen> genii you know, what i mean?
[09:03] <genii> numen: I think so.
[09:03] <numen> you know, where is the problem?
[09:03] <genii> numen: It turns off in the middle of using it, or only when you have not touched it for a minute or a few minutes?
[09:04] <numen> genii while using it
[09:04] <max__> Hi. Under my network manager when I try to connect to wifi, it says "enter hidden ssid and press <enter>" what is a ssid and how can i find it so i can enter it?
[09:05] <numen> max__ ssid is the name of your network
[09:07] <genii> max__: You find the name by using a computer that is physically plugged into the wifi router, going to it's admin screen and looking it up there
[09:09] <genii> numen: Is your video card some Radeon or Radeon HD ?
[09:12] <genii> !pong
[09:13] <max____> Hi, In my Network Manager it shows my wireless as "wlan interface" and it says disconnected. But when I click the check nothing happens. Theres a text field that says "connect to hidden network" and when i hover over that it says "enter hidden ssid and press <enter>" What is an ssid and how can I find it so I can enter it?
[09:14] <genii> max__: You find the name by using a computer that is physically plugged into the wifi router, going to it's admin screen and looking it up there
[09:14] <genii> max____: Quit popping in with the same question over and over when it's been continously anserd
[09:15] <max____> genii: I'm not meaning to. My irc client is being flakey and disconnecting me every few minutes.
[09:15] <genii> max____: See the above answer
[09:15] <eldar> hi!what it is?
[09:15] <max____> So how can I find the name from a computer that is plugged into the router?
[09:16] <genii> max____: It's depndant on the router make and it's admin screens/layout. Consult the manual
[09:19] <max____> genii: Is there no command that will just tell me the name of it? All the manual says is how to install its software.
[09:20] <genii> max____: There is no command which will tell you
[09:21] <max____> So how do I find it then?
[09:21] <numen> genii what should i do, for my kde problem?
[09:22] <genii> max____: Just point your web browser at the IP of the router, login to it if neccesary, poke around until you find the page that says what it calls itself.
[09:23] <genii> numen: You didn't answer my Q of what video card you have. Intel cards have one prob which a fix is known. ATI has an entirely different know issue, different fix. Etc
[09:23] <numen> its an sis video card
[09:25] <numen> its onboard card
[09:25] <numen> i want to use it, cause of the tvout signal for my tv
[09:26] <genii> numen: Hmm. Then I don't have some quick-fix based on the model. You could try if you like the way of editing the xorg.conf described here: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1170931.html
[09:27] <numen> ok
[09:27] <genii> 4th post down
[09:28] <numen> genii but this is for ati cards
[09:29] <genii> numen: The xorg.conf edit there is for all of X and not specific to ATI
[09:29] <numen> i know
[09:29] <genii> numen: Try then just the DPMI line
[09:30] <numen> not the complete block?
[09:30] <genii> numen: Try first the:  Option "DPMS" "false"                    which goes under the: Section "Monitor"    part of your xorg.conf
[09:31] <numen> ok
[09:31] <numen> i will try later
[09:31] <numen> i am now installing linuxmce
[09:31] <genii> numen: Then restart X, see if the problem persists. If it persists, try the other longer block
[09:43] <fg56xfd> Hi. When ever i try to connect my wireless connection it always fails. How can I figure out why it's failing.
[09:44] <genii> fg56xfd: Max, we've gone over this
[09:45] <fg56xfd> genii: Ive got the ssid entered and its seeing my router. its just failing to connect
[09:46] <genii> fg56xfd: If your router uses some kind of encryption, make sure you are telling the network manager to use the same kind. And put in the right password
[09:48] <fg56xfd> genii: I dont see anything about encription in the settings just a "protection mode" which is off.
[09:49] <fg56xfd> When ever i try to connect it just says "connecting" for a long time then "connection failed"
[09:50] <genii> fg56xfd: Then it's not even getting to the point of negotiating with the router
[09:52] <fg56xfd> I just tried using the security encription and made sure they were both set to the same thing, but it still just said "connection on wlan interface failed"
[10:03] <genjix> hey if i downloaded a kubuntu 9.04 cd a while ago
[10:03] <genjix> is there any point to re-downloading and burning a new disc?
[10:04] <genjix> or is it the same image
[10:04] <Bouib> i every body
[10:04] <Bouib> hi every body
[10:33] <leuhiah> is kubuntu have a kppp ?
[10:33] <shadeslayer> leuhiah: yes
[10:34] <shadeslayer> !info kppp | leuhiah
[10:34] <leuhiah> uhmmm ic because i have ubuntu but when i download my modem driver it dialout but the problem it wont connect that's why i switch to kubuntu
[10:34] <leuhiah> kppp only runs my modem in SLAX distro
[10:35] <shadeslayer> leuhiah: dial up support is very scarce...
[10:35] <leuhiah> and i want kubuntu to try and make sure that kppp is working to my modem
[10:35] <shadeslayer> !dialup | leuhiah
[10:35] <leuhiah> uhmmm ic
[10:35] <leuhiah> i tried that also but no luck connecting to the net
[10:37] <leuhiah> i hope kubuntu will dialout my connection
[10:38] <shadeslayer> leuhiah: please see the link ubottu provided :)
[10:39] <leuhiah> yah i tried that also shadeslayer but no luck and i try pppconfig wvdial but still no luck so i switch to another distro that can easily connect to the net i like ubuntu but problem is dialing out for my internet connection
[10:50] <numen> re
[10:52] <robin0800> leu
[10:53] <fg56xfd> Hi. Every time I try to connect to my wireless network it says "Connection on WLAN Interface Failed" How can i figure out why its doing this so i can fix it?
[10:55] <numen> genii adding this lines in config file does not help
[10:58] <numen> any other ideas?
[10:59] <numen> i dont know, why my kubuntu dissables the screen, its not blanking after time, its more a blinkin
[10:59] <numen> and it just happens, if i use the mice
[11:00] <numen> or if i do something with my keyboard
[11:15] <RizR> hi. quick q. is it possible to get "thumbnail view" enabled in KDE's default file open dialogue so that the files are listed in thumbnail form with option to increase/decrease size in view (rather than the default and only column view option)?
[11:16] <RizR> It's true that preview can be seen by clicking on the file but it would be convenient to see previews while scrolling. Much quicker so image files
[11:24] <marco> hallo
[11:25] <tom___> hello, im trying to set up and older computer with kde apps and openbox. I would like to use plasma widgets, but when i start plasma it draws the desktop as well, any help?
[11:25] <tom___> hi marco
[11:58] <oldude67> can i ask questions about beta version karmic in here, is there like major bugs reported about it yet?
[12:17] <millun> gmplayer crashes
[12:18] <millun> "mplayer interrupted by signal 13 in module: play_audio
[12:36] <Sargi> hi, im using k3b in Ubuntu 9.04. In which config file can i change the font size?
[12:36] <Crissi> helllo
[12:37] <Crissi> after update to 4.3beta2 my kde is very slow
[12:37] <Peace-> Crissi: ??
[12:37] <Peace-> what dou y mean with very slow
[12:37] <Crissi> starting up needs 1-2min
[12:37] <Peace-> boot time?
[12:38] <Crissi> then, background is nothing
[12:38] <Crissi> why the hell kde4 is buggy
[12:38] <Peace-> is not buggy
[12:38] <Crissi> it is.
[12:38] <Tm_T> Crissi: no cursing please
[12:38] <Peace-> is a bad installation
[12:38] <Crissi> no
[12:38] <Peace-> omg another nob
[12:39] <Tm_T> Crissi: if you think you have found a bug, please report them in launchpad
[12:39] <Crissi> i got crashes on 4.2.2 which mostly in qt4 (assertions), but the code is ok. with kde4 trunk a lot is better but its far from stable kde
[12:39] <Peace-> here it works
[12:39] <Peace-> .
[12:40] <Tm_T> Crissi: I have it all mostly stable, so see what I said
[12:40] <Crissi> so i have decided to update the jaunty box to 4.3beta but that mades it more bad then better
[12:40] <Crissi> ROTFL
[12:40] <Tm_T> complaining about bugs here won't get them fixed (;
[12:40] <Crissi> its not stable.
[12:40] <Crissi> ask the ppl outside.
[12:40] <Peace-> here it is
[12:40] <Tm_T> Crissi: it's stable for us, really, stop this rant, it's not helping anyone
[12:40] <Crissi> they dont like kde4 if you ask for the stability
[12:40] <Peace-> just because i have installed well .
[12:41] <Peace-> i repeat here is stable
[12:41] <Crissi> for now... the jauny box is unuseable
[12:41] <Crissi> no.
[12:41] <Crissi> its not.
[12:41] <Peace-> yes
[12:41] <Peace-> xD
[12:41] <Crissi> forget the lies of kde devs
[12:41] <Tm_T> Crissi: stop now or I will
[12:41] <Crissi> see thne reality.
[12:41] <Peace-> this is a gnome guy
[12:41] <Crissi> no.
[12:41] <Tm_T> Peace-: don't feed it either
[12:41] <Crissi> i'm using kde since 1.0 beta1
[12:42] <Peace-> Tm_T: of course
[12:42] <Crissi> but kde4 is the worst release ever.
[12:42] <Peace-> well done
[12:43] <Tm_T> Crissi: you are only muted, if you like to discuss here about support, see me in #ubuntu-ops
[12:43] <Peace-> !offtopic | peace
[12:43] <Peace-> sorry
[12:44] <drurew> info !sitebuilder
[12:44] <drurew> !infor sitebuilder
[12:44] <drurew> !info sitebuilder
[12:44] <drurew> srry
[12:44] <Tm_T> drurew: you can /msg the bot too (:
[12:45] <drurew> im needing a site builder
[12:45] <drurew> anyone have any ideas or links
[12:45] <drurew> :)
[12:46] <Peace-> mm i have on my mind the name
[12:46] <Peace-> bluefish
[12:46] <Peace-> than
[12:46] <Tm_T> !bluefish
[12:46] <Tm_T> oh, interesting
[12:46] <Peace-> xD
[12:46] <drurew> yeah bluefish is nice
[12:46] <Peace-> komposer
[12:47] <Peace-> but it's not stable on jaunty -.-''
[12:47] <drurew> i found one with paralells but dont want to build with it for its liscence information, cant host the app on my server
[12:48] <drurew> gimp has a useable sitebuilder... ill probly use that
[12:48] <yami> how can one find out which driver their wireless card is using? I tried lsmod but i dont recognise any of the names
[12:51] <yami> nobody?
[12:51] <numen> yami you should find with lsmod
[12:51] <numen> or with lspci
[12:51] <drurew> i was just gonna say tthat
[12:51] <drurew> :)
[12:53] <yami> lsmod, i've tried.. but i dont recognise which module 'is' the wireless driver
[12:53] <Crissi> back to jaunty.
[12:54] <Crissi> does anything have problems with 4.3beta? here its horrible slow and plasma use a lot of cpu
[12:54] <Crissi> after upgrading from 4.2.2
[12:58] <Peace-> Crissi: what video card have you?
[12:58] <Peace-> is an intel?
[12:58] <Crissi> nvida gforce 6200
[12:59] <Peace-> are driver properly installed
[12:59] <Peace-> ?
[12:59] <Crissi> but.. the problem with nvidia cards is not an nvidia problem. its a qt4 problem. i have latest legacy driver from jaunty.
[12:59] <Crissi> sorry, here is an older card...
[12:59] <Crissi> let me look
[13:00] <Crissi> gforce2 mx400
[13:05] <Crissi> kde4 dont makes the users lucky.
[13:06] <Mamarok> Crissi: take offtopic ramblings to #kubuntu-offtopic, support only here, please
[13:07] <Crissi> then, tell me how i can fix the broken 4.3 on jaunty
[13:07] <Crissi> without:
[13:07] <Crissi> - new user
[13:07] <Crissi> - deleting .kde
[13:07] <Mamarok> Crissi: what is broken? you need to be more specific
[13:07] <Crissi> - buying anew grahics card
[13:07] <Mamarok> it's not proken for me
[13:07] <Crissi> slow
[13:07] <Crissi> plasma uses a lot of cpu
[13:07] <Mamarok> not slow for me
[13:08] <Mamarok> Crissi: how did you install it?
[13:08] <Crissi> starting systemsettings need some minutes
[13:08] <Idhan> is here someone using denyhost??
[13:08] <Crissi> from package: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu jaunty main
[13:08] <Crissi> just upgraded from 4.2.2
[13:08] <Mamarok> Crissi: not, the intial Jaunty, was it an upgrade or a clean installation?
[13:08] <Crissi> upgrade from hardy for a while
[13:09] <Mamarok> Crissi: and you have no missing packages?
[13:09] <Mamarok> or packages that were held back?
[13:09] <Crissi> from 3.x?
[13:10] <Crissi> or from 4.2.2
[13:10] <Crissi> ?
[13:10] <Mamarok> Crissi: no, when you installed KDE 4.3 beta 2 I mean
[13:10] <Crissi> ok.. 4.2.2... let me check
[13:10] <Crissi> i'll remove all 4.2.2
[13:10] <giuseppe_> hi guys, do you know how to find an old pastebin?
[13:10] <Mamarok> Crissi: no, that was not my question, please
[13:11] <giuseppe_> I lose a file configuration for my wifi card
[13:11] <Mamarok> giuseppe_: if you don't have the link anymore, search for the name of the psoter eventually, depends on the pastebin
[13:11] <Crissi> yes, there old 4.2.2
[13:11] <giuseppe_> Mamarok: well, I used www.pastebin.com
[13:11] <Mamarok> Crissi: I didn't tell you that, I asked: did you have packages held back when you upgraded to 4.3?
[13:11] <Crissi> http://paste.debian.net/40389/
[13:12] <Mamarok> giuseppe_: well, you gave a name, didn't you? You can search for your name then
[13:12] <giuseppe_> Mamarok: but I'm not ale to search any data
[13:12] <Crissi> i'll try to upgrade the pkg or delete
[13:12] <giuseppe_> Mamarok: but how? I cannot find the search field
[13:12] <Mamarok> Crissi: please, read what I asked you!
[13:12] <Mamarok> giuseppe_: in the sidebar menu?
[13:12] <Mamarok> of pastebin.com
[13:14] <Mamarok> giuseppe_: sorry, I thought there was a search field, but eventually see the history of your browser for pastebin URLs
[13:15] <Mamarok> Crissi: also, you seem not to have a complete installation of KDE 4.3 anyway, no wonder it doesn't work correctly
[13:15] <giuseppe_> Mamarok: well now I find
[13:20] <drurew> hey mamarok
[13:20] <drurew> bein busy?
[13:20] <drurew> ;)
[13:21] <Mamarok> drurew: hi
[13:21] <Mamarok> drurew: do you have a question?
[13:21] <drurew> no mamarok , sorry ...i wont be buggin you
[13:22] <Mamarok> no problem :)
[13:24] <Peace-> Mamarok: but i just want know is correct do you have a question? or have you a question?
[13:24] <Peace-> well is not offtopic sorry
[13:25] <Mamarok> Peace-: its "do you have a question?"
[13:27] <drurew> !ask
[13:28] <drurew> see mamarol taught me something
[13:28] <drurew> :)
[13:28] <drurew> *mamarok
[13:28] <Mamarok> drurew: it was more about grammatical correctness :)
[13:28] <drurew> heh
[13:28] <Mamarok> drurew: use the tabulator to complete nicks, it prevents typos
[13:29] <drurew> Mamarok: yeah hey thats cool
[13:29] <drurew> just gotta love bash
[13:39] <handx> Is there anybody?
[13:40] <Mamarok> !ask | handx
[13:40] <drurew> hi handx
[13:40] <handx> hello
[13:41] <handx> why that there was nobody sent messages?
[13:41] <drurew> it must be the summer heat
[13:43] <handx> Is there anyone know that how to make kdebug debug pascal file?{not GDB but the GUI program}
[13:43] <Mamarok> handx: thes is a support channel, for discussions and random chat, go to #kubuntu-offtopic
[13:44] <Mamarok> ouch, pascal? doesn't that have a built in debugger?
[13:44] <handx> just in GDB not KDebugger
........are you busy?....if not then answer pm please
[13:45] <Mamarok> !pm > topramen
.....I wanted to ask makdaknife a personal question if I could?
and yess i did see your private message
 and <Mamarok>....<i'm having the same problem I had two days in a row>..which is I'm still tring to install ubuntu on my acer aspire 5515 on my Laptop and I cant get it to install properly.....it stalls after the loading Linux Kernel...can someone in here assist me with this problem?
[13:54] <Mamarok> topramen: ubottu as just a bot, no need to talk to it :)
[13:54] <Mamarok> topramen: what CD version do you use?
.....LOL!!!...A Bot as in Robot...OK...well consider it done.....
....i'm using Ubuntu Hardy 8.04 Lts version
[13:56] <Mamarok> topramen: that Acer Aspire is a netbook?
....no a Laptop
[13:57] <handx> of couse it is a netbook
[13:57] <Mamarok> topramen: then you need the netbook edition, the normal edition doesn't work well for netbooks
[13:58] <Mamarok> topramen: I just googled it, that is a netbook, so you need the Netbook remix
[13:58] <Mamarok> !netbook
[13:58] <Mamarok> hm, let's see
[13:58] <handx> you'd better using ubuntu 9.04 for netbook
[13:58] <Mamarok> handx: guess what I just told him...
....I dont see anywhere on it where it says notebook
[13:59] <handx> I really don't know
[13:59] <Mamarok> topramen: see here: http://www.canonical.com/projects/ubuntu/unr
[13:59] <Mamarok> topramen: well, according to Google it is a netbook
........ok so what's the difference between a notebook and a Laptop?
[14:01] <handx> it runs slow
[14:01] <handx> and it is smaller
[14:02] <Mamarok> topramen: my bad, it's a normal laptop, I was on the wrong link
.....what's the difference in the software version you mention earlier?
[14:02] <Mamarok> topramen: anyway, if you want KDE, you should use Kubuntu 9.04, it's more likely to work then
[14:03] <Mamarok> topramen: well, netbooks usually don't have CD dirves, so it can be installed from a USB stick, also they have little power and small screens, small harddisks
[14:04] <Mamarok> so it's ok for surfing the web and reading mails, but not for much more
[14:06] <BluesKaj> g'day
....well I dont have a note book as I stated earlier I have a laptop with a lot of hardrive a dvd/cd player/burner and a amd athlon 64 processor......I have a ubuntu hardy version 8.04 L.T.S..disc and I am currently using the software on my desktop which I'm relaying with you all presently ...
[14:07] <Mamarok> topramen: wait, I corrected myself, see above :)
[14:07] <Mamarok> topramen: but if you want KDE4, you will need Kubuntu 9.04
[14:07] <Mamarok> Ubuntu 9.04 is only LTS for Gnome, not for KDE
[14:08] <Dragnslcr> You mean 8.04
...Ok...but what I want to know now is what's the difference between the software and why want it go on my laptop but it will go on my desktop?
[14:08] <Mamarok> right, 8.04
[14:09] <sourcemaker> when I use the kernel 2.6.28... then I have a system freeze starting X11
[14:09] <Mamarok> topramen: I don't know, sometimes it can only be installed with the alternate CD, depending on CPU and other factors
...where online can I download the Kubuntu 9.04 version?
[14:09] <Mamarok> sourcemaker: that's not the kernel, sounds more like the graphic card driver
[14:10] <sourcemaker> Mamarok: it's nvidia
[14:10] <Mamarok> topramen: second
....ok
[14:10] <Mamarok> topramen: do you want Gnome or KDE?
[14:10] <topramen> what's the difference and what's better?
[14:10] <Mamarok> topramen: that entirely depends on your personal preferences
[14:11] <topramen> which ever's more secure
[14:11] <Mamarok> those are different desktop environments
[14:11] <Mamarok> topramen: security doesn't depend on the desktop, but on the underlying system wich is the same for both
[14:11] <topramen> well i've been using both to be honest with you KDE and GNOME
[14:12] <Mamarok> topramen: then you have an idea of the difference
[14:12] <topramen> I only see the KDE or GNOME when I do updates
[14:12] <Mamarok> keep in mind though that Kubuntu ships KDE4, which is quite different from KDE3
[14:13] <Mamarok> topramen: well, you see a visual difference of course, in colour, layout and the applications have different names
[14:13] <shadeslayer> topramen: google around for a preview of kde 4.3...youll get a idea :)
[14:14] <digmore> or google reviews
[14:14] <shadeslayer> i can provide a screenshot if you wish :)
[14:14] <topramen> ok kool
[14:14] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: those are on the web too, and tons of videos on youtube too
[14:15] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: videos too?
[14:15] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: kool then :P
[14:15] <Mamarok> topramen: just google for KDE4 screenshot or video, you will find those
[14:15] <digmore> how do I disable some ttys, because the memory is limited and it is very slow
[14:15] <shadeslayer> digmore: one sec :)
[14:16] <phh> digmore: edit /etc/inittab and drop some getty lines
[14:16] <shadeslayer> digmore: http://tuxtraining.com/2008/09/28/how-to-make-ubuntu-extremely-fast/
[14:16] <shadeslayer> phh: apart from that theres one more step i thunk
[14:16] <shadeslayer> *think
[14:17] <phh> shadeslayer: mmm don't think so but maybe
[14:17] <topramen> ok I appreciate it...one more question <people>.......what is a good place to download a secure version?
[14:17] <Mamarok> digmore: but the tty doesn't use much memory, you should disable 3D first, that's eating a lot
[14:18] <shadeslayer> phh: i quote " With the new upstart mechanism in place, things are a little different. "
[14:18] <Mamarok> topramen: which one do you want? On Kubuntu.org you will find the KDE one, on ubuntu.com the Gnome version
[14:18] <phh> shadeslayer: yeah i just read it :D
[14:18] <Mamarok> topramen: also, Linux is secure by default :)
[14:18] <shadeslayer> phh: ;)
[14:19] <topramen> doesn't matter but I just found something on google but want a good referral .
[14:19] <shadeslayer> topramen: i recommend torrents :)
[14:19] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: those download links have torrents...
[14:19] <topramen> what is torrents?
[14:20] <shadeslayer> !torrent | topramen
[14:20] <shadeslayer> bah...
[14:20] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: whats the factoid??
[14:20] <topramen> ok thanks bot
[14:20] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: that one :)
[14:20] <Mamarok> !info ktorrent
[14:21] <Mamarok> !bittorrent
[14:21] <Mamarok> nah
[14:21] <BluesKaj> !P2P
[14:21] <Mamarok> oh, there's a FAQ in the link
[14:21] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: no the one which points towards the torrent file of kubuntu ?
[14:21] <Mamarok> http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[14:21] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: it's on the frontpage of the website, no need for a link
[14:22] <BluesKaj> what about wget ?
[14:22] <Mamarok> !wget
[14:22] <Mamarok> !info wget
[14:22] <Mamarok> I wouldn't use it for an iso, unless the server is very fast
[14:23] <Mamarok> torrents speed up when there are enough seeders
[14:23] <shadeslayer> topramen: after you download remember to check the md5 sum :)
[14:23] <BluesKaj> frankly i've never tried wget with larger files over 500mb
[14:27] <Ultimate_darknes> !mobile
[14:30] <BluesKaj> Mamarok, I'm testing this with wget and I'm getting 540K/s which is close to my DSL limit for DL speed http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/karmic/alpha-2/karmic-desktop-amd64.iso
[14:33] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: ftp downloads are unreliable imho
[14:34] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: and why should they be more unrelyable than a torrent? think...
[14:34] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: because torrents have hash checks?
[14:35] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: well, if there is no seeder with the complete image you are borked anyway
[14:35] <Mamarok> hsh check or not
[14:35] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: which can hardly be the case with kubuntu 9.04 :)
[14:35] <Mamarok> hash*
[14:36] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, it's quick enuff , and it works for web based content , not just ftp
[14:37] <shadeslayer> hmmm..
[14:46] <weedar> I'm unable to choose VNC as connection-type in KRDC (running 4.3 beta), is this a common bug or am I lacking a package? (it worked a little while ago)
[14:51] <shadeslayer> weedar: i think the network manager is being reworked..
[14:51] <weedar> shadeslayer: but krdc is a separate package?
[14:52] <shadeslayer> !info krdc
[14:52] <shadeslayer> weedar: looks like it
[14:53] <weedar> Oh well, guess I can just use vncviewer for now :)
[15:01] <avihayb> hi, I be haveing a long standing problem with sound in firefox on a laptop runing kubuntu 9.04 with an onboard intel 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio controller (rev 04). the sound usualy works fine but after a few hours, it can suddenly get choppy. the short term solution is to restart firefox (with my usual 40 open tabs... :-<)
[15:04] <avihayb> I also had problems with amarok changeing songs while haveing a virtual machin runing (useing a hipervisor),  causing the computer to freaze it's display.
[15:05] <avihayb> but that seems to have been solve when hald was replaced with the new "thing"
[15:05] <shadeslayer> thing?
[15:05] <shadeslayer> oh you mean udev?
[15:05] <avihayb> system that replaces hald
[15:05] <shadeslayer> ah.. ok
[15:05] <shadeslayer> is this a karmic system?
[15:05] <avihayb> forgot the name, I think it was composede of two words
[15:06] <avihayb> composed*
[15:06] <avihayb> missing a letter somewhere...
[15:06] <shadeslayer> avihayb: i dont think hald has been replaced in jaunty
[15:06] <shadeslayer> only in karmic...
[15:07] <shadeslayer> avihayb: ok my bad..
[15:07] <poleykielona> Hi, i've instaled another system which is Ubyntu 9.04, and i dont see eth0 when typing ifconfig. What shall I do ? I dont have this problem on kubuntu
[15:07] <avihayb> ok, so it was probebly a hal upgrade?
[15:08] <drurew>  /msg !info sftp
[15:08] <drurew> rrrrr
[15:08] <shadeslayer> avihayb: as im gathering,udevd (replacement for hald) is here since intrepid
[15:09] <shadeslayer> poleykielona: what does lspci | grep ethernet show?
[15:09] <BluesKaj> poleykielona, install Wicd for neteork managment
[15:09] <BluesKaj> network
[15:09] <avihayb> I don't know, all I remember is aproveing a package removal and replacement about a weak ago
[15:10] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: wicd is only a graphical replacement...how does it help with ifconfig?
[15:10] <poleykielona> I dont know, I'm now on Kubuntu (at the same maschine)
[15:10] <avihayb> it should give you the same output in either os
[15:10] <shadeslayer> poleykielona: open a konsole via alt+f2 > konsole
[15:10] <poleykielona> how could i install Wicd when I dont have internet ?
[15:11] <BluesKaj> poleykielona, the widget network manager is unstable and unreliable
[15:11] <poleykielona> shadeslayer: i have console opened
[15:12] <shadeslayer> poleykielona: lspci | grep ethernet
[15:12] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, it's not a graphical substitute , it's a standalone app
[15:12] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: so it helps with ifconfig as well?
[15:12] <BluesKaj> wicd that is
[15:12] <poleykielona> nothing happened
[15:12] <BluesKaj> yes
[15:12] <shadeslayer> poleykielona: you probably dont have a ethernet card or it is undetected
[15:13] <poleykielona> or pehaps I shall try it when logged on ubuntu
[15:13] <shadeslayer> poleykielona: by ifconfig you do mean that you are looking for ethernet devices?
[15:13] <poleykielona> how could i not have card while I'm online ?
[15:13] <avihayb> how is wicd at creating secured ad-hoc wireless networks?
[15:14] <shadeslayer> avihayb: pretty good
[15:14] <shadeslayer> poleykielona: is this a wifi connection?
[15:14] <avihayb> time I stop setting it unsecure manually
[15:14] <poleykielona> when I type in console "ifconfig" i only get "lo"
[15:14] <BluesKaj> avihayb, it has the option but if you have wifi network then wicd is vg at detecting any broadcasted nets
[15:15] <poleykielona> but when I type it in kubuntu i get "lo", "eth0", "wlan etc"
[15:15] <poleykielona> i have internet via cable - eth0
[15:16] <avihayb> no, I want my laptop to create a ad-hoc secure network (since my card doesn't support AP mode (master))
[15:16] <poleykielona> summary: i see "eth0" in kubuntu, but not in ubuntu
[15:16] <poleykielona> what shall i do to see it also on ubuntu
[15:17] <avihayb> currently, I'm running with no network manager, and runing nm-applet when I need to connect to wireless, or my own shell script to create a nonsecure ad-hoc
[15:18] <shadeslayer> poleykielona: 1)ubuntu support is in #ubuntu , 2)what happens when you connect the cable in ubuntu? do you get connected?
[15:20] <poleykielona> shadeslayer: I know that ubuntu support is on #ubuntu, but those systems are simmilar. 2) nothing happends when i connect cable on ubuntu
[15:20] <shadeslayer> poleykielona: can you open any site?
[15:20] <shadeslayer> in ubuntu
[15:21] <poleykielona> literaly nothing, and thats my problem
[15:21] <shadeslayer> one sec
[15:21] <poleykielona> no, i can't open any website in ubuntu
[15:22] <shadeslayer> poleykielona: ill be back in a sec
[15:22] <poleykielona> shadeslayer: thanks for patient
[15:27] <Dayla> hmm.... i want to install second life on kubuntu, how do i go about this?
[15:27] <shadeslayer> !games | Dayla
[15:27] <avihayb> poleykielona:  the only thing I can think of that could help you find the problem is:
[15:28] <avihayb> in kubuntu: lsmod > kmoduls.txt
[15:29] <avihayb> in ubuntu: lsmod > umoduls.txt
[15:29] <poleykielona> what would it do ?
[15:29] <avihayb> and then run a diff on bouth files to see what ubuntu doesn't load
[15:29] <shadeslayer> poleykielona: lists all the modules loaded
[15:29] <avihayb> lsmod, lists all the moduls that are loaded. you can do it in console
[15:30] <Dayla> ok... second life is on neither of those lists
[15:30] <avihayb> the > filename, tells "it" to write the output to a file
[15:30] <poleykielona> ok, I'll try
[15:31] <poleykielona> now i need to logout from kubuntu, or could I have 2 systems at the same time ?
[15:31] <bazhang> Dayla, only thing I see is the one at getdeb.net ; perhaps the forums will have better choices
[15:31] <avihayb> what CPU do you have?
[15:31] <poleykielona> core 2 duo
[15:31] <shadeslayer> poleykielona: uh...have you put gnome on a kubuntu install?
[15:32] <shadeslayer> poleykielona: or do you have 2 seprate ubuntu installs
[15:32] <bazhang> poleykielona, need to logout of kde session
[15:32] <poleykielona> no, they are totally different systems, kubuntu is from website as kubuntu, and ubuntu from website as ubuntu
[15:32] <avihayb> then you can run one of the system in a CPU virtualisation virtual machine like KVM oe vbox
[15:33] <shadeslayer> poleykielona: you mean one different partitions right?
[15:33] <bazhang> poleykielona, you are dual booting ubuntu and kubuntu?
[15:33] <avihayb> but the virtualisation software will emulate a different network card
[15:33] <avihayb> oe->
[15:33] <poleykielona> yes, they have different partitions, different home  etc
[15:33] <avihayb> or
[15:34] <poleykielona> ok, now I see that 2 systems on the same time is beyond my proficiency
[15:34] <bazhang> it's not possible
[15:35] <bazhang> if you mean to have two systems launched at the same time, without a virtual machine involved
[15:35] <poleykielona> summarize: i need to reboot
[15:36] <avihayb> why not?
[15:36] <poleykielona> thanks guys, you have free beer when you visit poland
[15:37] <shadeslayer> poleykielona: you do know that KDE and gnome can co-exsist
[15:37] <avihayb> wow, wicd looks powerfull, I can't remember why I avoided installing it?
[15:37] <eljak> hello, how or what tool i should use to configure my wireless and wired connections? under kde?
[15:38] <avihayb> well, eljak everyone seem to like wicd
[15:39] <shadeslayer> eljak: the network manager plasmoid or wicd
[15:39] <poleykielona> shadeslayer: i've installed ubuntu not because of gnome, but because i've find "ubuntu studio"distribution - with a lot of stuff and optimized for music. I prefer KDE
[15:39] <avihayb> I just unstalled it, but up untill now, I used the console for the wired connection, and nm-applet for wireless
[15:39] <shadeslayer> poleykielona: ah..
[15:39] <avihayb> *installed
[15:39] <BluesKaj> avihayb, I use wicd eth0 as default , but i can still use the wifi option if the cat5 craps out
[15:40] <avihayb> cat5?
[15:40] <BluesKaj> which it has in the past ...the cat literally chewed thru the cat5 cable :)
[15:41] <BluesKaj> dhcp/eth0 connect wire
[15:41] <avihayb> ok, I get it
[15:41] <eljak> avihayb: thanks i will try it
[15:41] <avihayb> time to reask the question I came here for
[15:42] <Dayla> so, i have the linux version of second life downloaded, how do i install it?
[15:42] <avihayb> hi, I be haveing a long standing problem with sound in firefox on a laptop runing kubuntu 9.04 with an onboard intel 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio controller (rev 04). the sound usualy works fine but after a few hours, it can suddenly get choppy. the short term solution is to restart firefox (with my usual 40 open tabs... :-<)
[15:42] <shadeslayer> Dayla: is it a .deb?
[15:42] <bazhang> Dayla, in what format
[15:43] <Dayla> it is in a zip format
[15:43] <Dayla> the linux compressed format
[15:43] <shadeslayer> Dayla: what are its contents?
[15:43] <Dayla> a crap ton of files
[15:43] <shadeslayer> Dayla: does it have a cmakelists.txt ?
[15:43] <BluesKaj> avihayb, i think you found your prob , too many open pages ... cpu overload
[15:43] <Dayla> i havent looked for such a file
.....please tell me what i need to do to get the right codecs to get my brasero software to work so I can burn the Kubuntu cd
[15:44] <topramen> http://paste.ubuntu.com/204948/
[15:44] <shadeslayer> Dayla: if it does and also contains ./configure then you need to compile
[15:44] <Mamarok> topramen: second
[15:44] <avihayb> nope, fire usualy takes 7% cpu, and it's a dualcore
[15:44] <topramen> ok
[15:45] <Dayla> no, it doesnt
[15:45] <avihayb> and I can play sound normally at the same time with amarok
[15:45] <Mamarok> topramen: you don't need codecs for ISO burning, something is wrong with the media I guess, try burning at lower speed
[15:45] <shadeslayer> Dayla: hmm,what about install.txt
[15:46] <topramen> ok...i use the maximum speed
[15:46] <bazhang> Dayla, where was this downloaded from
[15:46] <BluesKaj> avihayb, intermittent probs  are the most difficult to track down and solve
[15:46] <topramen> is it kool to do burning while online?
[15:46] <Dayla> the second life website
[15:46] <shadeslayer> topramen: why not
[15:46] <Mamarok> topramen: you shouldn't, use 8x
[15:46] <topramen> just always thought taht would be dangerous
[15:46] <topramen> ok 8x it is
[15:46] <Mamarok> topramen: well, being online doesn't disturb, no, why should it=?
[15:47] <glenda_> i'm having some minor display problems with an intel 82815 chip set.  can anyone help?.  when i run glx gears i see the gears turning but they seem incomplete and i have horizontal lines covering the screen.  I also have a lot of jitter over the entire display.  my xorg file is pretty generic, no driver specified, maybe i need to specify a driver?
[15:47] <topramen> just a thought that occured been thinking that way for a while
[15:47] <Mamarok> topramen: the higher the burning speed, the most likely you have errors, especially on cheap media
[15:47] <glenda_> topramen: make sure your laser is clean, wipe it off with a qtip & rubbing alcohol
[15:47] <shadeslayer> !intel | glenda_
[15:47] <bazhang> http://www.byteme.org.uk/secondlife/apt-get-a-secondlife.html Dayla there are repos here
[15:48] <topramen> LOL...well I'm using a hp pavilion 2006 desktop
[15:48] <topramen> Mamarok...::I dont know the typ of burner I have
[15:49] <Mamarok> topramen: media means the CD you are burning on to
[15:49] <avihayb> I've been disconnected, so I might ave missed a message or two
[15:49] <topramen> oh...thanks
[15:49] <shadeslayer> avihayb: nope ;)
[15:52] <glenda_> shadeslayer: i was having the same problems before my upgrade to 9.04.  i think xorg is misconfigured, i could use some help to make sure the correct driver is being used
[15:52] <shadeslayer> glenda_: the intel chips are not supported as of now
[15:52] <shadeslayer> (in 9.04)
[15:52] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: arghs...
[15:53] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: some Intel chipsets have problems, not *all* of them!
[15:53] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: did i do something wrong?
[15:53]  * shadeslayer checks links
[15:53] <shadeslayer> glenda_: one sec
[15:54] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: in particualr the chipset on the eeePc has a problem
[15:54] <Mamarok> particular*
[15:54] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: so only the i915
[15:55] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: that's one I know of, yes
[15:55] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: ok,im having a look at the release notes
[15:56] <shadeslayer> glenda_: can you pastebin the xorg.conf?
....I'm still having the same problem..it's now saying i'm having errors somthing something then I tried it again and then it said not enough disc space and i'm using a memorex dvd-R blank disc
[15:56] <glenda_> shadeslayer: hold...
[15:57] <Mamarok> topramen: you are burning a CD iso on to a DVD-R?...
[15:57] <topramen> yess
[15:57] <Mamarok> what a waste of space
[15:58] <topramen> so am I not suppose to use a dvd-r on an ISO?
[15:58] <glenda_> shadeslayer: http://pastebin.com/f5d845490
[15:59] <shadeslayer> glenda_: read this for starters : http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/Hardware/Intel
....Was I not suppose to use a DVD_R on an ISO Burn?
[15:59] <avihayb> one of thease someone will make a set of programs/drivers, that will turn a large space disk, into multiple small ones.
[16:00] <avihayb> Oh, wait, linux can already do that
[16:01] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: ive found a xorg.conf for the intel 82815,would you mind having a look,just to confirm it its advisable to use it?
[16:01] <avihayb> well, it's just isn't comfortable yet...
[16:01] <shadeslayer> *if
[16:01] <shadeslayer> glenda_: i think the xorg.conf might be incomplete,not sure...
[16:02] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/xorg.conf-for-intel-82815-chipset-608658/
[16:02] <shadeslayer> ack,shes gone for now
[16:02] <shadeslayer> glenda_: have a look at http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/xorg.conf-for-intel-82815-chipset-608658/ , not very sure about it
[16:02] <topramen> can anyone tell me what an ISO is?
[16:02] <glenda_> ok
[16:03] <bazhang> topramen, its the format you burn to get an Ubuntu/Kubuntu livecd/installer disk etc
[16:03] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: that's very old...
[16:03] <shadeslayer> topramen: image of a CD
[16:03] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: im searching,but as of now i cant get anything else
[16:04] <glenda_> shadeslayer: i use envyng-qt with nvidia cards, is there a similar program with intel cards?
[16:04] <topramen> ok...but why cant I burn it on a dvd-r?
[16:04] <shadeslayer> glenda_: hmm,i have a nvidia card,never heard of that before...
[16:05] <bazhang> topramen, you can
[16:05] <topramen> well why want my brasero burn my new iso i've downloaded?
[16:05] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: check here: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/314050 <-- it says fix released
[16:07] <topramen> BAZHANG....do you know of a good place online to download a D.O.D...Wipe Clean Program
[16:07] <topramen> does anyone know?
[16:08] <bazhang> topramen, shred
[16:08] <topramen> is shred a site?
[16:09] <bazhang> topramen, no, its a command
[16:10] <shadeslayer> glenda_: you can use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg if you were not facing problems ( this command resets the xorg 0
[16:10] <topramen> ok so do I type that command in the terminal or konsole?
[16:10] <glenda_> shadeslayer: i've tried that, it only sets it to the default generic xorg.conf file
[16:10] <bazhang> topramen, please read the manual very carefully before using it
[16:11] <ign0ramus> bazhang, i don't think shred works very well on ext3/ext4 FS's
[16:11] <topramen> Manual to what?
[16:11] <shadeslayer> glenda_: im all out of options then,i cant seem to find anything else,google around
[16:11] <glenda_> that's why i'm here, i couldn't find anything either
[16:11] <bazhang> ign0ramus, really? thought it was a part of coreutils
[16:12] <ign0ramus> bazhang, it's still included, but due the journaling nature of ext3/ext4, shred doesn't work as effectively as on other FS's
[16:12] <shadeslayer> glenda_: theres a channel #xorg,try asking there :)
[16:12] <bazhang> ign0ramus, okay thanks; any advice for topramen ?
[16:12] <glenda_> will do, thanks
[16:12] <ign0ramus> bazhang, i've heard about 'wipe' but i have never used it
[16:13] <bazhang> topramen, think you should listen to ign0ramus 's suggestion of 'wipe'
[16:13] <TaMonKein> is there free alternative to gimp on linux?
[16:13] <bazhang> !info wipe | topramen
[16:13] <bazhang> TaMonKein, gimp is free
[16:14] <topramen> ok...
[16:14] <TaMonKein> bazhang: i know that, but i dont like that gimp opens so many windows..
[16:14] <ign0ramus> bazhang, topramen: also, DBAN works on Linux and is widely regarded as one of the best way to clear all data off a drive
[16:14] <bazhang> TaMonKein, what is your end goal?
[16:14] <ign0ramus> topramen, http://www.dban.org/
[16:15] <TaMonKein> bazhang: i want image editor which does not open ~3 windows of stuff..
[16:15] <topramen> Ok thanks...
[16:16] <ign0ramus> TaMonKein, isn't there 'gimpshop', which opens in a single window like photoshop?
[16:16] <TaMonKein> ign0ramus: did not know about that.
[16:17] <Peace-> TaMonKein: krita
[16:17] <Peace-> TaMonKein: use 1.6 version
[16:17] <Peace-> the versin 2 is still buggy
[16:17] <Peace-> for me
[16:17] <ign0ramus> TaMonKein, http://www.gimpshop.com/index.shtml
[16:17] <Peace-> TaMonKein: krita and krita-plugin
[16:18] <TaMonKein> peace ok i'll try both of them :P
[16:18] <topramen> BAZHANG or IGN0ramus...can you all please tell me what i'm doing wrong when burning my new ISO and why want it burn....it gets all the way to 99% and then stops and says error
[16:18] <ign0ramus> topramen, what app are you using?
[16:18] <bazhang> topramen, using k3b or gnomebaker?
[16:18] <topramen> hold on let me go check
[16:19] <topramen> it says Kubuntu-9.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[16:20] <ign0ramus> topramen, no, what app are you using to burn the .iso?
[16:20] <bazhang> topramen, I meant the burning app
[16:20] <topramen> oh
[16:20] <topramen> it's brasero
[16:20] <ign0ramus> topramen, that could be your issue right there :/
[16:20] <topramen> ok so i dont need to use that app?
[16:21] <bazhang> topramen, buggy imo
[16:21] <ign0ramus> topramen, my gnome friends all now use k3b ;)
[16:21] <topramen> ok i see i have that one also hold on let me try and use that one
[16:21] <bazhang> topramen, better results with k3b (kde) or gnomebaker (gnome), though you can use both/either with kde/gnome
[16:22] <avihayb_> I find gimp as pretty much useless for a new user. why? because it's very counter intuitive. it has all the bells and whistles, but you have to know where and how to look.
[16:23] <ign0ramus> topramen, i guess the first thing to do would be to verify the integrity of your .iso ... you can check here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[16:23] <ign0ramus> avihayb_, that's true of every advanced editor, be it for video/pictures/audio et
[16:23] <topramen> ok i'm using it now but i says it want me to use a cdrw instead of a dvd-r...
[16:23] <avihayb_> kolourPaint is a microsol+ level paint software
[16:24] <coz_> any problems with cooliris and firefox...it doesnt want to show up in    kubuntu?
[16:24] <ign0ramus> topramen, in k3b, you must choose whether you want to use a dvd or cd
[16:24] <avihayb_> ign0ramus: have you ever tryed paintshop pro 5?
[16:24] <avihayb_> or 6 or, even 7?
[16:24] <ign0ramus> avihayb_, i have X2 on my windows partition
[16:24] <avihayb_> I didn't know they went beyond X
[16:24] <topramen> when you say verify the itegrity...are you saying the disc that will be burned or what i've downloaded?
[16:25] <ign0ramus> avihayb_, http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite/us/en/Product/1184951547051
[16:25] <bazhang> topramen, the iso
[16:25] <avihayb_> anyway, psp5, is so intuative, it's great working with
[16:25] <coz_> nevermind
[16:25] <avihayb_> abd it's very powerfull and advanced
[16:25] <avihayb_> *and
[16:26] <ign0ramus> avihayb_, psp is very intuitive, but hardly powerful or advanced when comparing against gimp or photoshop
[16:26] <topramen> ok
[16:26] <avihayb> well, I'm wineing photoshop, because psp wouldn't wine properly for me
[16:27] <ign0ramus> avihayb, http://www.justlinux.com/forum/showthread.php?t=112195
[16:27] <avihayb> and beside haveing better filters, I don't see a big gap
[16:29] <avihayb> that's old, and I never tryed psp8
[16:33] <topramen> This K3b is some very confusing software to use
[16:36] <ign0ramus> topramen, really?  you open the app, select what type of project you want, drag and drop, and click 'burn'...
[16:43] <topramen> i did but it didn't work but I will keep trying to do that
[16:45] <ign0ramus> topramen, if you are using a dvd, make sure to select 'burn dvd iso image'
[16:46] <topramen> on the setting it says simulate,create image, only create image,remove image, and verify written data...which do I select?
[16:46] <avihayb> not more then Nero burning rom with the stupid "SMART start"
[16:46] <avihayb> *rome
[16:48] <topramen> The Joliet extensions (which are needed for long filenames on Windows systems) restrict the length of the volume descriptior (the name of the filesystem) to 16 characters. The selected descriptor 'kubuntu-9.04-desktop-amd64' is longer than that. Do you want it to be cut or do you want to go back and change it manually?
[16:49] <topramen> is what it says when i want to burn the iso
[16:49] <bazhang> cut it
[16:49] <topramen> ok
[16:50] <avihayb_> I'm guessing it's the cd-name, and there for the length of the name doesn't matter
[16:52] <topramen> it's a working now just hope it plays in my laptop
[16:53] <bazhang> topramen, be sure to set bios to boot from cd/dvd drive first
[16:54] <topramen> will do
[16:56] <topramen> it doesn't eject when done and i'm kinda confused because it says 100% in the overall progress but only 86% in the Device buffer...is that normal or finish burning?
[16:57] <avihayb_> maybe it's just finalizeing the disk
[16:57] <bazhang> topramen, for k3b it will take a moment to finalize/finish, then give a green bar and a pinging sound accompanied by the word success
[16:59] <topramen> ok i guess it's not finish...the buffer is at 86% and I have'nt heard the success yet but it says success at the very top of the monitor in a seperate box
[16:59] <bazhang> topramen, success with a green bar?
[16:59] <topramen> ok I have'nt saw it yet so i guess it's not finish yet
[17:00] <bazhang> should be in a separate bar, over the burning window
[17:00] <topramen> ok
[17:02] <antoine__> help
[17:03] <avihayb_> ok
[17:03] <avihayb_> I guess I was too late
[17:04] <avihayb_> he tryed to warn us, but now he is gone, proebly forever
[17:05] <topramen> someone please check this out to see if everythings okhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/204984/
[17:05] <topramen> http://paste.ubuntu.com/204984/
[17:07] <ralph_> someone on this channel?
[17:08] <avihayb_> yes
[17:08] <ralph_> oh hi
[17:08] <avihayb_> topramen: It doesn't report any errors
[17:08] <ralph_> well a lot of names here but no chat ;)
[17:08] <avihayb_> I usualy ask it to varify the output
[17:09] <shadeslayer> ok,my friend just managed to rm -rf /boot (dont ask!) , ive managed to setup grub,but how do i auto-generate the menu.lst anf the intrids?
[17:09] <avihayb_> ralph_: you'll find that most prpole only respond to specific help questions
[17:09] <topramen> ok well it didn't go sucess neither but it says it waas finished i guess it's done....but never ejected from my drive...i guess this iso is not going to work on my laptop and i will need to try and burn another one
[17:11] <avihayb_> why assume the glass is half empty
[17:13] <ralph_> well then - anyone know why kubuntu chrashes or comes on again when I want it to suspend to disk?
[17:13] <ralph_> I have this behaviour on 3 Laptops and 1 Desktop
[17:15] <avihayb_> open the drive yourself, frankly, varios burnig software that eject my drive by themself, cased me some damage, since something was blocking the drive
[17:15] <avihayb_> and try the cd for yourself
[17:15] <avihayb_> you can also try it out on the computer you burned it on
......are you familiar with the K3b software?
[17:21] <avihayb_> not really, I used it, but I never realy explored all it's options.
[17:21] <avihayb_> really*
[17:21] <avihayb_> just try to read from the cd with your file manager
[17:22] <topramen> well i see options i've never ever saw before and am trying really hard to make sure i'm doing all the neccessary steps to burn this iso
[17:22] <avihayb_> to burn ISO, I just drag droped them into the program, and it did all the rest for me
....are you familiar with the kubuntu 9.04 desktop i386?
[17:25] <avihayb_> I installed from the alternate cd
[17:25] <avihayb_> but what's the problem?
...will the kubuntu 9.04 desktop i386 work on a laptop?
[17:25] <avihayb_> sure
[17:25] <avihayb_> how well is up to the laptop specifications
[17:26] <avihayb_> everything from the last three years should be fine
[17:27] <topramen> as for the laptop it's newly bought 3 months ago.....well I have the ubuntu 8.04 hardy version on disc presently now and installed on the desktop that i'm relaying with you on now but I cant get it to install on my acer aspire 5515
......are you at all familiar with what i'm talking about?
[17:40] <shadeslayer> can anyone pastebin the output of ls /boot please , it would be really helpful
[17:41] <avihayb_> abi-2.6.17-10-generic
[17:41] <avihayb_> config-2.6.17-10-generic
[17:41] <avihayb_> grub
[17:42] <avihayb_> initrd.img-2.6.17-10-generic
[17:42] <Mamarok> avihayb_: pastebin, please!
[17:42] <shadeslayer> avihayb: thanks :)
[17:43] <avihayb_> memtest86+.bin       System.map-2.6.17-10-generic       vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic   sory for the lazyness
[17:46] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: do you have any idea on how to restore /boot?
[17:46] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: what did you do again?
[17:46] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: not me! my friend removed /boot
[17:47] <Mamarok> ...
[17:47] <yoga>  How do I search for bugs?
[17:47] <shadeslayer> !bugs > yoga
[17:47] <Mamarok> yoga: are you interested in a particular bug?
[17:48] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: i have 9.04 on a usb and a 6.04 cd lying here....somewhere
[17:48] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: how did he do that?
[17:49] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: some other guy ' advised ' him
[17:49] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: brilliant...
[17:49] <yoga> I want to find out a "bug" is really a bug and it's been file.  When I start Kget I get and error message say cannot load plugin ktorrentfactory.
[17:49] <shadeslayer> he wanted to use the windows bootloader
[17:49] <Mamarok> ask that other guy to get it back on then again, sorry, but that is just dumb
[17:49] <Mamarok> yoga: install ktorrent?
[17:50] <yoga> Mamarok: Yes ktorrent already installed.
[17:50] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: will sudo update-grub from a CD not work?
[17:50] <Mamarok> sahdehow could it? He removed the kernels...
[17:50] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: ^^, sry
[17:51] <Mamarok> yoga: also, kget is just a frontend to wget, is it installed?
[17:51] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: hmm...so a reinstall is in session?
[17:51] <laz0r> shadeslayer: you need to reinstall the linux-image and probably the grub package, although I think the needed files for grub should also lie around somewhere under /usr/share/grub or something like that
[17:51] <yoga> Mamarok: Yes wget also installed.
[17:52] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: well, unless you can find an indentical /boot to recopy, then run the recovery tool
[17:52] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: how about the ones on the live CD?
[17:52] <Mamarok> yoga: which KDE version? as kget doesn't show a dependency to ktorrent at all
[17:53] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: well, I doubt that, but you can try
[17:53] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: where did he get that advice from, somewhere in our channels?
[17:53] <yoga> Mamarok: KDE 4.2.90
[17:54] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: no
[17:54] <yoga> Did you install Kget on KDE 4.2.90?
[17:54] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: someone he knows
[17:54] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: tell him he should very fast get rid of that 'friend' then, unless he repairs it for him
[17:55] <laz0r> shadeslayer: boot with the live cd, then chroot into the installed system and reinstall all necessary packages, thats what i would try
[17:55] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: and the same guy once formatted the linux partition of another friend and left him with no bootloader
[17:55] <shadeslayer> laz0r: chroot ?
[17:57] <shadeslayer> what if i reinstall and dont format the drive on which kubuntu is currently residing? will that do the trick?
[17:57] <laz0r> shadeslayer: you can mount the harddisk into some directory, then run 'chroot /bin/sh' (or something like that, i'll take a look in a second for the exact command) in that directory to 'change the root filesystem' to that directory
[17:57] <laz0r> so then you have a shell running in your old, broken system
[17:58] <laz0r> which you can use to reinstall the packages you need to get the system booting again on its own
[17:58] <shadeslayer> laz0r: im on his machine right now on a live USB...can you give me the exact commands?
[17:59] <laz0r> do you have a shell with root access open?
[18:00] <shadeslayer> laz0r: sure
[18:00] <laz0r> ok, is the old root filesystem mounted
[18:00] <shadeslayer> yep
[18:00] <yoga> Mamarok: Kget has a torrent plugin.
[18:01] <laz0r> ok, cd into the directory where the old root is mounted
[18:01] <shadeslayer> done
[18:01] <laz0r> and just try running chroot /bin/sh
[18:01] <shadeslayer> laz0r: chroot: cannot change root directory to /bin/sh: Not a directory
[18:02] <Mamarok> yoga: you can load it anyway, the plugins is just not ready yet
[18:02] <laz0r> oops, then chroot . /bin/sh probably
[18:02] <shadeslayer> somethings happening
[18:02] <shadeslayer> ok i have a blank cursor
[18:03] <laz0r> ok, now you changed the root dir to be the old system, the shell is just sh, and there are probably no environment variables set
[18:03] <shadeslayer> laz0r: the terminal changed to ubuntu:sh
[18:03] <laz0r> just try running ls /, see if it really is the old root
[18:03] <laz0r> and not the live systems root
[18:03] <shadeslayer> laz0r: yep
[18:04] <laz0r> ok, can you run things like dpkg --list?
[18:04] <shadeslayer> laz0r: yep
[18:04] <laz0r> ok, then examine the output of dpkg --list for the kernel package that was installed on the old system
[18:04] <shadeslayer> laz0r: this is going pretty good.....:)
[18:05] <laz0r> dpkg --list | grep linux-image
[18:05] <laz0r> or  grep for kernel, i have actually no idea how those packages are called...
[18:05] <shadeslayer> laz0r: ii  linux-image-2.6.28-13-generic              2.6.28-13.44                               Linux kernel image for version 2.6.28 on x86
[18:06] <shadeslayer> laz0r: there are 2 more , one is a older kernel and one is linux-image-generic
[18:07] <shadeslayer> laz0r: should i run dpkg --reconfigure ?
[18:07] <laz0r> mmh, ok, now what i would try is getting that package from packages.ubuntu.com and out it somewhere locally so you can reinstall it via dpkg
[18:07] <laz0r> or, better yet, look in /var/cache/apt/archives
[18:07] <laz0r> it should be laying around there
[18:08] <laz0r> ok, on my machine it is not in /var/cache/apt/archives, but maybe it is on yours
[18:08] <shadeslayer> nope..
[18:09] <amauri> yes
[18:09] <shadeslayer> laz0r: does apt-get work on this?
[18:09] <laz0r> i guess not, but you could try
[18:09] <shadeslayer> it does :)
[18:09] <amauri> the is not fouder game the sims 2
[18:10] <laz0r> yea? ok, then somehow force apt-get to reinstall the kerne
[18:10] <laz0r> l
[18:11] <amauri> kerne system kurubutu
[18:11] <shadeslayer> laz0r: i guess linux kernel-generic will do the job?
[18:11] <amauri> yes or no
[18:12] <amauri> ok ..
[18:12] <laz0r> if you just do apt-get install linux-image it will probably just say that it is already the newest version
[18:12] <shadeslayer> laz0r: i think i have to run dpkg --reconfigure....apt-get says its already installed
[18:12] <shadeslayer> laz0r: haha
[18:13] <laz0r> if you do --reconfigure it will just reconfigure, not reinstall it, the files that are gone will be gone afterwards also
[18:13] <laz0r> i think
[18:13] <shadeslayer> laz0r: so what do we do?
[18:13] <laz0r> so maybe just remove linux-image, then install again?
[18:14] <laz0r> try with apt-get -s remove linux-image, if that only wants to remove the kernel, try it
[18:14] <laz0r> without the -s
[18:14] <avihayb_> or apt-get reinstall
[18:14] <amauri> compiler c++ for linus emule game the EA GAMES PC
[18:14] <laz0r> well, that might be a wise thing to try before remove
[18:15] <shadeslayer> i just removed it and reinstalled
[18:15] <laz0r> and did the image show up again in /boot
[18:15] <amauri> #include <iostream>   // biblioteca nescess�ria para a fun��o std::cout
[18:15] <amauri> #include <cstdlib>
[18:16] <laz0r> and, if apt-get removed the modules also, you might want to install those too
[18:16] <Mamarok> amauri: what are you doing?
[18:17] <shadeslayer> laz0r: one sec....it was just a meta package....did not completely set up , so i removed the modules too and reinstalling right now
[18:17] <lovre> i have set up a panel to stay under windows, but when i go to the screen edge, it shows up over the windows. How can i make it not to :) ???
[18:17] <shadeslayer> laz0r: this will tale 20 min :)
[18:18] <shadeslayer> *take
[18:18] <amauri> take *^_^*
[18:18] <laz0r> mmh, ok, there is a risk i won't be at my computer in 20 min, but i'll come back
[18:18] <shadeslayer> brb
[18:18] <julian__> español
[18:18] <kubuntu_> salut touos le monde
[18:18] <shadeslayer> laz0r: i dont think anything else is needed right>
[18:18] <Mamarok> !es | julian__
[18:19] <Mamarok> !fr | kubuntu_
[18:19] <laz0r> actually, if that works, there is not much else to do, just reinstall grub the same way, make sure the config is right and the initrd image for the kernel is there (run update-initramfs and update-grub) and then everything should work again
[18:19] <julian__> hello....
[18:20] <Mamarok> !es > julian__
[18:20] <julian__> i would like to get the wep key for a router
[18:20] <shadeslayer> laz0r: ok,thanks *alot*
[18:20] <julian__> can some one help me?
[18:20] <Mamarok> julian__: just ask your question
[18:20] <laz0r> shadeslayer: you're welcome
[18:21] <julian__> Mamarok: how can i crack the key for a router?
[18:21] <Mamarok> julian__: I don't know, and this is hardly a question for this channel, we do not 'crack' things here
[18:22] <julian__> Mamarok do u know where can i get a chat or help for this?
[18:22] <Mamarok> julian__: no, sorry
[18:22] <julian__> Mamarok: no problem... thanks
[18:23] <Mamarok> you are welcome :)
[18:25] <topramen> is anyone here familiar with the k3b software?.....if so can someone walk me through the process?
[18:26] <shadeslayer> !k3b
[18:26] <Mamarok> topramen: what process you mean, using it?
[18:26] <Mamarok> topramen: I can, but it works like all other CD/DVD burner/ripper
[18:27] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: i think he meant a guide
[18:27] <topramen> trying to burn iso....i thought it went well but on my laptop i'm trying to put it on it says media failure
[18:27] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: I know :)
[18:27] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: ok..:)
[18:27] <Mamarok> topramen: could you please put that error message in http://paste.ubuntu.com?
[18:28] <Mamarok> topramen: you have everything k3b related installed, haven't you?
[18:29] <Mamarok> topramen: see here for the dependencies: http://pastebin.com/d34ca339b
[18:31] <topramen> yes I think I do.... I dont get an error....after selecting the project I want on the welcome page then drag my iso to it...I want to know why I cant select burn?....it only lets me select burn only when I click on
[18:32] <Mamarok> topramen: well, tat's the way it works, it shouldn't start automatically, so you can change settings if necessary
[18:32] <topramen> hold on i'm trying something new
[18:33] <Mamarok> that* even
[18:36] <topramen> I was told that it was suppose to say success in a green bar but it does'nt...is there any thing else I need to dowload on the k3b to make my burns complete ?
[18:37] <Mamarok> topramen: well, type sudo aptitude install k3b to check if nothing is missing first
[18:37] <shadeslayer> topramen: nope....you can try and use dd if k3b is unsucessful
[18:37] <topramen> ok hold on
[18:37] <avihayb_> topramen: well, I'm packing up and going to school (where they block IRC, among others) good luck
[18:38] <topramen> ok thansk
[18:38] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: ...
[18:38] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: cli ftw :)
[18:38] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: ??
[18:38] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: I try to do a walk through, do you mind?
[18:38] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: ok okk...im going
[18:39] <topramen> http://paste.ubuntu.com/205037/
[18:40] <ruben> hola
[18:40] <Guest92024> alguien pueda decirme como puedo poner una foto como fondo de pantalla?
[18:41] <topramen> http://paste.ubuntu.com/205041/
[18:41] <draik> !es | Guest92024
[18:41] <Mamarok> topramen: which one now of these pastebins?
[18:41] <topramen> both
[18:42] <Mamarok> topramen: the second one says it worked ok
[18:42] <topramen> what about the first one?
[18:42] <Mamarok> topramen: wait...
[18:43] <topramen> well I tried re-burning different iso's and I keep getting media failure on my screen
[18:43] <Mamarok> topramen: not from what I can see in the second pastebin
[18:44] <Mamarok> topramen: did you try opening the burnt CD in Dolphin or running it on the laptop?
[18:44] <topramen> no did'nt use or familiar with dolphin but yess i've been putting it in the laptop after every burn and it keep saying media failure
[18:46] <Mamarok> topramen: well, remove it from the drive in your PC, put it back in and see if you can open it with Dolphin
[18:47] <topramen> ok you mean remove it from the disc drive and open the iso from my desktop?
[18:47] <Mamarok> yes, it should pop up normally if it can read the CD
[18:48] <topramen> yes it displays with the mb and a list of other stuff
[18:50] <Mamarok> topramen: did you try putting another CD (audio or video) in that laptop to see if it's not the drive?
[18:51] <topramen> no i will do that but I know it's not the drive..it's a new laptop...but I will try reburning it to a cd-r instead of a dvd-r
[18:52] <Mamarok> topramen: that's a good idea, indeed
[18:53] <fabcal> hi there
[18:53] <mubu> Hey everyone. I have the desktop cube and rotate cube activated in compiz fusion settings. However now, when I use the mouse scroll it scrools between the different desktops (sides of the cube). How can I disable this key binding? Thanks
[18:53] <fabcal> hi everyone
[18:53] <Mamarok> mubu: are you using Gnome?
[18:54] <topramen> does it matter if I select the raw cd mode or not?
[18:55] <fabcal> sorry everyone: very possibly that I am going to ask a stupid question: Am I right here in ordr to ask about VMWARE (not) running on Ubuntu?
[18:55] <Mamarok> topramen: well, normall you shouldn't change anything in the settings for data CD, it's configured correctly by default
[18:57] <Dragnslcr> fabcal- you can ask here, or you can try #ubuntu (which has more people)
[18:58] <fabcal> Dragnslcr: - let me make a try just here
[18:58] <fabcal> Dragnslcr - R U familiar with VMWARE Server 20.1?
[18:59] <fabcal> Dragnslcr -  VMWARE-Server 2.01
[19:00] <santiago_> hello
[19:00] <topramen> Well I did a stupid move I forgot to close the tray in the disc drive, but now my new problem is I cant select the iso from the k3b desktop bin so I had to drag it from the desktop to the keb bin
[19:05] <Mamarok> topramen: when you say bin, you mean the trash can?
[19:06] <topramen> no I mean up in the corner of the k3b box where you select what you want to burn
[19:06] <nate__> hello
[19:06] <Mamarok> topramen: well, just close k3b and restart it
[19:07] <topramen> well i initially did that but for some strange reason it's stuck at 50% overall progress....
[19:08] <nate__> i installed a script using script manager for amarok but i dont know how to access it
[19:08] <Mamarok> topramen: 50% progress in burning? you mean you closed k3b while burning?
[19:08] <topramen> no
[19:08] <topramen> i mean after I figured out that I left the cd drive open and then closed it...the burn highlighted and then I started the process
[19:10] <topramen> what is kde and do I need to do a seperate download to get the burning process to work right?
[19:11] <shadeslayer> laz0r: there?
[19:11] <Mamarok> topramen: wait, I don't understand what you said
[19:11] <Mamarok> topramen: what are you burning right now?
[19:11] <dan___> KDE is a desktop enviroment
[19:11] <topramen> still the same ole iso
[19:12] <topramen> it's stuck at
[19:12] <Mamarok> topramen: wich ISO is it? Ubuntu, Kubuntu, 9.04?
[19:12] <topramen> .90% device buffer
[19:12] <topramen> kubuntu 9.04
[19:12] <shadeslayer> laz0r: i cant do a normal boot since it says something about scripts-top,wheras on a recoveryboot  i get to a intramfs shell...
[19:12] <Mamarok> topramen: did you check the md5sum?
[19:13] <topramen> yess but i didn't understand what I was looking at
[19:14] <Mamarok> topramen: could you please do the following: type md5sum followed by a space then the name of the iso and give me the iso name and the number that comes out in http://paste.ubuntu.com
[19:15] <topramen> can you show me exactly how i need to type this in the konsole?
[19:17] <Mamarok> topramen: well, exatly as I said, if you are in the same folder than your iso package, you can use the tabulator:
[19:17] <Mamarok> type md5sum kubuntu then hit the tabulator and it should complete automatically
[19:18] <topramen> ok  you mean in the k3b tabulator?
[19:18] <laz0r> shadeslayer: scripts-top is something in the initramfs i think, what does it say exactly? did you run update-initramfs?
[19:18] <Mamarok> topramen: no, in a konsole
[19:18] <topramen> ok hold on
[19:19] <shadeslayer> laz0r: yes,i ran update-initramfs
[19:19] <shadeslayer> laz0r: it said scripts-top/usplash_image not found and then about modprobe devices
[19:20] <shadeslayer> laz0r: i think linux-image-2.6.28-13-generic is not bein set up correctly....
[19:21] <laz0r> the usplash error is probably because we didn't reinstall usplash
[19:21] <shadeslayer> laz0r: http://pastebin.com/f7c9543b3
[19:21] <topramen> it says no such file or directory
[19:21] <laz0r> i guess that also has some files under /boot/grub
[19:21] <Mamarok> topramen: where is your iso file?
[19:21] <shadeslayer> laz0r: i removed the word splash,no effect...
[19:21] <topramen> it's on my desktop
[19:22] <Mamarok> topramen: ah, then you need to go to the desktop folder
[19:22] <topramen> and then do what when I get there?
[19:23] <shadeslayer> laz0r: any info from that paste?
[19:24] <Mamarok> topramen: well, in a konsole I mean, in the desktop folder, you type md5sum followed by the complete iso file name
[19:24] <laz0r> not really, the exact error from the boot process might be helpfull, and i would try to reinstall usplash, it probably was installed and might have some files under /boot
[19:24] <laz0r> uh, kubuntu-desktop depends on usplash, so better not remove it...
[19:24] <shadeslayer> laz0r: ok ill note it down
[19:25] <topramen> do I need to type it like this  md5sum kubuntu desktop?
[19:25] <shadeslayer> laz0r: i actually did...and just reinstalled it :P
[19:25] <laz0r> mmh, ok, make sure you install all packages that were removed because of their dependencies
[19:26] <Mamarok> topramen: well, no, you need to go to the folder first, type cd Desktop and hit return
[19:26] <shadeslayer> laz0r: http://pastebin.com/d6bf3d97
[19:27] <Mamarok> then you type md5sum kubuntu and hit the tabulator button before hitting enter, it should complete automatically
[19:27] <topramen> well i did that in the konsole and it said bad command
[19:28] <Mamarok> topramen: hm, strange
[19:28] <Mamarok> topramen: you should copy that iso to your home folder, no idea where it ended up
[19:28] <shadeslayer> laz0r: you see :5 not fully installed or removed.
[19:28] <Mamarok> topramen: can you open Dolphin please?
[19:28] <laz0r> shadeslayer: Setting up linux-image-2.6.28-13-generic (2.6.28-13.44) ...
[19:29] <shadeslayer> laz0r: yeah..
[19:29] <laz0r> it seems the linux-image wasn't setup correctly
[19:29] <shadeslayer> laz0r: thats what im talking about
[19:29] <topramen> yess
[19:29] <shadeslayer> laz0r: it still isnt..
[19:30] <topramen> what do you mean copy it to my home folder?
[19:30] <shadeslayer> laz0r: and now after installing usplash its : 12 not fully installed or removed.
[19:30] <topramen> and yes i have dolphin open now
[19:30] <laz0r> does the apt output give you any clues why it isn't setup correctly?
[19:30] <shadeslayer> laz0r: ok tell me one thing
[19:30] <Mamarok> topramen: can you drag the iso file to the dolphin window please?
[19:31] <topramen> sure
[19:31] <shadeslayer> laz0r: if i make a copy of everything except /boot reinstall and then copy everything back...will it be like the original system?
[19:31] <topramen> which windo in dolphin?
[19:31] <Mamarok> topramen: to an empty space, careful not to put it into a folder
[19:31] <Mamarok> topramen: default you should be in your home folder
[19:32] <laz0r> shadeslayer: that can be tricky, but it should be possible
[19:32] <shadeslayer> laz0r: ok,tricky in the sense?
[19:32] <topramen> ok i did in the home window in dolphin
[19:32] <Mamarok> topramen: ok, back to a Konsole then :)
[19:32] <laz0r> shadeslayer: make sure all permissions get copied too, don't copy special filesystem like proc and sys
[19:32] <topramen> i'm there so now what?
[19:33] <shadeslayer> laz0r: what?
[19:33] <laz0r> forget about proc and sys, those should only be a concern when the system is running, which it isn't
[19:33] <Mamarok> topramen: there you are in your homefolder also by default, type again md5sum kubuntu (foillowed by a tbulator press to make it complete the name), then enter
[19:33] <shadeslayer> laz0r: theyre empty as of now :P
[19:33] <Mamarok> topramen: you should see the complete name of the iso file in that line
[19:34] <shadeslayer> laz0r: so reinstall?
[19:34] <shadeslayer> laz0r: if there is *no** other way?
[19:34] <laz0r> well, when i want to clone my system, i always use rsync, that has options to keep the permission, and more importantly, it can also keep device nodes (or whatever these are called)
[19:35] <laz0r> i don't know, if you have a second harddisk you can safely try installing ubuntu onto that harddisk, then copy everything back that you need
[19:35] <shadeslayer> laz0r: this machine has a 200 GB partition....which is about 180 GB free.....
[19:36] <shadeslayer> laz0r: no 2nd HD :(
[19:36] <laz0r> well another partition should do as well
[19:36] <shadeslayer> laz0r: ok im making a folder there....how do i rsync this partition?
[19:37] <topramen> it want work for some reason i typed it in several different types of ways and still want work
[19:38] <topramen> when you say tbulator you mean type the word tbulator behind kubuntu?
[19:38] <Mamarok> topramen: when you type ls kubuntu*, does it list the iso in the konsole?
[19:38] <Mamarok> topramen: no, there is a tabulator key on your keyborad, the one with two arrows
[19:39] <shadeslayer> laz0r: ack! i cant mount that partition too!
[19:39] <laz0r> i used grsync to clone my filesystem last time i did that
[19:39] <topramen> ok yess i have one hold on
[19:39] <shadeslayer> laz0r: ok got it to mount wheww
[19:39] <topramen> you mean the tab button
[19:39] <shadeslayer> laz0r: man grsync ?
[19:40] <Mamarok> topramen: exactly, sorry, tab is short for tabulator :)
[19:40] <laz0r> there you can check all the options you need, if you dont have grsync/ can't install it, you'll have to look at the rsync manpage for all the options you need
[19:40] <topramen> errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[19:40] <shadeslayer> laz0r: i dont have grsync....
[19:40] <topramen> just say tab please that's all I've ever known
[19:40] <topramen> lol!!!!!!!!!!!
[19:40] <Mamarok> topramen: don't put too many signs, please
[19:41] <Mamarok> one ! is enough
[19:41] <topramen> ok no I see where it pulls up the iso name
[19:41] <shadeslayer> laz0r: i think rsycn /media/disk /media/Data/backup will do it
[19:41] <shadeslayer> *rsync
[19:42] <laz0r> shadeslayer: wait a sec
[19:42] <shadeslayer> laz0r: sure
[19:42] <Mamarok> topramen: so you should get a long number output after some time, followed by the ISO name, that's the line I need
[19:42] <topramen> hold on I will pastbin what it says
[19:43] <Mamarok> topramen: you can paste it here, it's only one line
[19:43] <laz0r> shadeslayer: ok, i just looked, i used the following options for rsync: rsync -r -t -p -o -g -v --progress -l -H -D --numeric-ids /home/lazor/foo/ /home/lazor/bar/ /media/passport
[19:43] <topramen> ok hold on
[19:44] <topramen> 537a22de1342d5671b7e0070f66a6076
[19:44] <shadeslayer> laz0r: ok,that completely images the disk?
[19:44] <topramen> this is what it said
[19:44] <topramen> ?
[19:44] <topramen> 537a22de1342d5671b7e0070f66a6076
[19:44] <Mamarok> topramen: and the iso name?
[19:44] <laz0r> shadeslayer: ignore the dirs, just the options are important, that should preserve permission, all device files and symlinks
[19:44] <shadeslayer> ok
[19:45] <shadeslayer> laz0r: and after that ill reinstall and resync everything back to my /
[19:45] <shadeslayer> except /boot
[19:45] <laz0r> shadeslayer: does the partition you are backing up to have an ext3 filesystem?
[19:45] <shadeslayer> laz0r: nope....NTFS
[19:46] <laz0r> shadeslayer: ok, that might be a bad idea to back up to ntfs
[19:46] <shadeslayer> laz0r: what do i do then?
[19:46] <laz0r> shadeslayer: ntfs does not support symlinks nor ext3 permissions
[19:46] <Mamarok> topramen: ok, that is correct, now you should do the same with your burnt CD, wait I tell you the exact line to type
[19:46] <shadeslayer> laz0r: no idea...
[19:46] <shadeslayer> laz0r: ok,then what to do?
[19:47] <topramen> so i need to put the cd back in the drive now?
[19:47] <Mamarok> topramen: yes, please
[19:47] <Mamarok> topramen: then you type this in the konsole: md5sum /dev/cdrom
[19:48] <laz0r> shadeslayer: well, find some place to backup to, or fix the problem with the linux-image/bootprocess
[19:48] <laz0r> shadeslayer: is there really that much on that system that you need to keep?
[19:48] <shadeslayer> laz0r: ok,lemme check
[19:49] <topramen> ok hold on
[19:49] <laz0r> you can backup all stuff from /home for example on the ntfs filesystem, that should be ok, then reinstall, after reinstall install all apps you have installed via apt-get manually, and everything should be ok again
[19:49] <shadeslayer> laz0r: ok,im going to keep just the apt-archives...fair enough?
[19:50] <laz0r> i assume you did not change things in /etc?
[19:50] <shadeslayer> laz0r: /etc?
[19:50] <shadeslayer> laz0r: no
[19:50] <laz0r> only the apt-archives? why those?
[19:50] <topramen> http://paste.ubuntu.com/205098/
[19:50] <shadeslayer> laz0r: alot of stuff i setup,low broadband speed
[19:50] <topramen> that is what it saidhttp ://paste.ubuntu.com/205098/
[19:51] <topramen> http://paste.ubuntu.com/205098/
[19:51] <shadeslayer> laz0r: dont want to download everything again....
[19:51] <laz0r> shadeslayer: ok
[19:51] <shadeslayer> laz0r: no problem right? just copy paste or rsync ?
[19:52] <laz0r> shadeslayer: the archives? just copy them, there should be no special files in there
[19:52] <shadeslayer> ok
[19:52] <Mamarok> topramen: that is strange, it should output a number, not the list of the files and folders
[19:53] <shadeslayer> laz0r: 600 MB of downloads there :(
[19:53] <defrysk> topramen, rewitable?
[19:53] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: did you mount the CD?
[19:53] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: what CD?
[19:53] <laz0r> shadeslayer: maybe you need pkgcache.bin too, but i dont know
[19:54] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: sorry, wrong nick :/
[19:54] <shadeslayer> laz0r: ill copy it just to be sure
[19:54] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: np
[19:54] <laz0r> shadeslayer: in /var/cache/apt are some files that look like they are needed by apt to determine which files are in the archive and which are not
[19:54] <Mamarok> defrysk: oh, that's why he doesn't get a checksum?
[19:54] <defrysk> Mamarok, use cdrw
[19:55] <defrysk> or topramen that is
[19:55] <defrysk> Mamarok, probably
[19:55] <topramen> it's cd-r
[19:55] <defrysk> topramen, try it anyway
[19:55] <yang_> hey is there some1 who can help me with a sound problem?
[19:55] <shadeslayer> laz0r: done :)
[19:55] <shadeslayer> !sound > yang_
[19:55] <yang_> were do i find it?
[19:56] <yang_> nvm found it
[19:56] <Mamarok> defrysk: well, I try to exclude that it's a drive problem, but if there's no checksum this is hard to do
[19:57] <topramen> ok what do you want me to ty besides what i've tried already?
[19:57] <defrysk> md5sum /dev/cdrw
[19:58] <yang_> hey i dont have a system settings -> sound system ; but i do have system settings - > multimedia
[19:58] <yang_> witch doesn't contain an enable sound system. button. is there a cll way?
[19:59] <shadeslayer> laz0r: im going offline since i dont want it to update right now :)
[19:59] <shadeslayer> laz0r: thanks btw
[19:59] <shadeslayer> bye all
[19:59] <yang_> cya ty
<<<<Did it not download correctly?<<<<
[20:04] <Mamarok> topramen: no, the checksum of your iso file is ok, it's good
[20:04] <topramen> well why want it burn correctly?
[20:04] <Mamarok> topramen: please do not use so many special characters, it's difficult to read
[20:05] <topramen> ok sorry about that
[20:05] <Mamarok> topramen: did you do that line above defrysk told you to?
[20:05] <topramen> no I didn't pay it any attention....let me scroll up
[20:06] <Mamarok> topramen: if you want to highlight somebody, just type the nickname of the person, that's enough to raise attention :)
[20:06] <ZeroKewl> i have ubuntu and firefox and when i play games on yahoo like yahoo pool and i open a table then close it the lobby is gray
[20:06] <topramen> ok
[20:06] <Mamarok> topramen: just type md5sum /dev/cdrw
[20:06] <OsamaK> Per <http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2.90> I added the line to my Sotware Source, but I got a key problem. Where can I find its pubic key?
[20:06] <topramen> defrysk
[20:06] <ZeroKewl> what could cause this it always has done this and it annoying and i have to close and reopen the lobby to fix it
[20:06] <topramen> ok it did the same thing when I tried that line in the konsole
[20:07] <Mamarok> topramen: no number output?
[20:07] <topramen> what do you mean no number output?
[20:08] <Mamarok> topramen: well, it should calculate the checksum of the CD you just burned
[20:08] <Mamarok> topramen: do you still see the CD content in Dolphin?
[20:08] <topramen> yes
[20:09] <ZeroKewl> so no one knows how to fix it
[20:10] <topramen> i'm adding some settings in the properties where it says advanced settings...set uid,gid, and sticky
[20:11] <Mamarok> topramen: why?
[20:11] <OsamaK> Solved
[20:11] <Mamarok> topramen: don't tuch that, why would you do that?
[20:11] <topramen> well I thought maybe that would help with the installation on my laptop
[20:12] <Mamarok> topramen: you shouldn't modify any default settings of an ISO
[20:12] <topramen> so your saying the cd iso i just made is't executeable?
[20:12] <Mamarok> topramen: what name do you see on top of the window? it should read media/ then something
[20:13] <Mamarok> topramen: if you did burn it as an ISO it is bootable
[20:14] <topramen> are you talking about in the dolphin window?
[20:14] <Mamarok> topramen: yes
[20:17] <topramen> well in dolphin...in the home section it says kubuntu-9.04 desktop-i386 iso
[20:17] <Mamarok> topramen: no, I was asking for the CD, you should still have it in the drive, no?
[20:17] <Mamarok> and you should tell me what header is in the window showing the content of the CD
[20:18] <topramen> yess it's in the drive but where on the computer shall I look for the info you requested?
[20:18] <Mamarok> topramen: in Dolphin
[20:21] <topramen> well it says the same thing in the Home window in dolphin kubuntu 9.04 i386
[20:23] <Mamarok> topramen: the CD is not in the home folder...
[20:24] <topramen> where is it in dolphin?
[20:25] <defrysk> topramen, /media/cdrom0
[20:26] <topramen> so do i type that in the konsole?
[20:27] <Mamarok> topramen: are you sure you did burn a bootable CD with that ISO?
[20:28] <topramen> I was hoping I did....I downloaded the iso from www.kubuntu.org
[20:28] <Mamarok> you did select burn CD image, right?
[20:28] <topramen> yesss
[20:28] <Mamarok> topramen: the download is ok, we already checked that
[20:29] <topramen> like 34 times already 3 times with a dvdv-r and once with a cdr-r
[20:31] <Mamarok> topramen: do yu have the possibility to get a CD from a local LUG or so?
[20:31] <topramen> huh!...not familiar with a local LUG?
[20:32] <Mamarok> topramen: the local Linux User Group = LUG
[20:33] <topramen> ok but If I do that I still will have the same problem I have now...my laptop want boot from any disc but a windows disc for some strange reason
[20:34] <Mamarok> topramen: we try to narrow donw the problem, to find out where the error lies
[20:37] <topramen> I think what ever the problem lay with the ubuntu installation disc I'm currently using now that want go on my laptop lays in the laptop it self.....and what ever problem with the new iso i burned today lays with the k3b
[20:39] <topramen> I will be back a bit later i'm gonna try burning this disc offline...I hope that's where the problem lay
[20:41] <hubar_> hi all. Question, how do I go about configuring kdm? All options are greyed out in my jaunty.
[20:42] <hubar_> i was running gdm before, and had to remove gdm to let kdm take over.
[20:43] <pushrax> !karmic
[20:57] <madalin> hello
[20:57] <madalin> after trying to restart my X (/etc/init.d/gdm restart) the server crashes and i cannot do anything without a reboot. Any hints ? Ubuntu 9.04 (upgraded)
[20:59] <ign0ramus> madalin, have you tried reconfiguring gdm?
[20:59] <madalin> ign0ramus: how and why ?
[21:00] <madalin> i'm sshd into that computer and i'm streaming using winamp (on wine) and have setup so that it runs automatically..
[21:00] <ign0ramus> madalin, how: "dpkg-reconfigure gdm"
[21:00] <ign0ramus> madalin, why: if /etc/init.d/gdm restart  is crashing X, then its possible its not configured properly
[21:01] <madalin> ign0ramus: well, after a reboot everything seems to be working fine, as X is starting as it should..
[21:01] <ign0ramus> madalin, you can always check the gdm or xorg logs to see why the crashiness too.
[21:03] <madalin> well, what would i be looking for ?
[21:04] <ign0ramus> madalin, any errors near the end of the log that could possibly crash the server... the possibilities are numerous
[21:06] <shadeslayer> laz0r: thanks for the help....new install...working :)
[21:07] <hubar_> hmm anyone has policykde installed?
[21:08] <madalin> ign0ramus: if i'm reconfiguring gdm will this affect any saved sessions (autorun programs) on the current user ?
[21:08] <Brad777> Hello I am having some small trouble with my sound. I was using 32 bit kubuntu using aoss to launch teamspeak2 and that worked fine. Now that I'm using kubuntu64bit after launching teamspeak2 with aoss it hogs the sound card...
[21:08] <ign0ramus> madalin, not sure, as gdm and the gnome autostart system are different than that of kde and kdm
[21:08] <draik> ign0ramus: Hey there. All is well with my interwebs
[21:09] <ign0ramus> draik, good to hear
[21:09] <draik> ign0ramus: Now, onto my USB issue...
[21:09] <ign0ramus> draik, whats the issue with that?
[21:09] <madalin> thanks ign0ramus
[21:10] <draik> I am now able to see my 500GB external, however, doing a transfer of many files (total of 129GB), it fails after 9GB
[21:10] <ign0ramus> madalin, np
[21:10] <ign0ramus> draik, using cli or a file manager?
[21:10] <draik> ign0ramus: Konqueror
[21:11] <ign0ramus> draik, does "cp" or "mv" also fail?
[21:11] <Brad777> draik, Dolphin > konqueror 'nuff said try using dolphin to start it
[21:11] <Brad777> sorry to barge in ign0ramus lol
[21:12] <ign0ramus> Brad777, no problem. you've convinced me with your striking arguments and i wish to subscribe to your newsletter
[21:12] <Brad777> ign0ramus, lawl I have no news letter
[21:12]  * ign0ramus is a sad panda
[21:12] <draik> ign0ramus: I will try 'cp' right now.
[21:13] <draik> Brad777: I never cared for Dolphin the app. The animal is really awesome and cute
[21:14] <draik> Side note: I have been watching Planet Earth and the dolphins are some sketchy mofos. They lead the bait fish up to the top level for birds to feast and keep them there while they eat too and only let them go when they are full.
[21:14] <Brad777> draik, I prefer specific purpose apps because multipurpose apps always seem to have problems with complicated things
[21:15] <ign0ramus> draik, do you remember the last thing i said last night?
[21:15] <draik> ign0ramus: About the drinking and having one for me?
[21:15] <ign0ramus> draik, http://i42.tinypic.com/21ke3qg.jpg
[21:16] <draik> Brad777: That is WAY too awesome
[21:16] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[21:17] <Brad777> So... nobody knows how to fix my sound?
[21:17] <draik> ign0ramus: I'm going to have a collection of these things. I have a friend of mine that used to work at a radio station and was live on the webcam.  Snapshot it and have it saved.
[21:17] <shadeslayer> !sound | Brad777
[21:17] <ign0ramus> draik, sweet
[21:17] <shadeslayer> pretty big netsplit :)
[21:17] <draik> Brad777: So it seems I let my dolphin escape
[21:19] <Brad777> shadeslayer, I don't see anything under system settings that says sound system
[21:19] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[21:19] <shadeslayer> Brad777: me neither....i wonder if that factoid is wrong.....
[21:19] <Brad777> shadeslayer, i believe it is xD
[21:19] <draik> Brad777: The xfer rate is less than 1.2MB/s
[21:20] <Brad777> draik, ?
[21:20] <draik> Brad777: xfer rate with dolphin
[21:20] <shadeslayer> any ops here who can help us??
[21:21] <ign0ramus> Brad777, its now 'multimedia'
[21:22] <shadeslayer> ok guys,bye....im bored...and sleepy :)
[21:23] <darkdelusions> Hey guys when i am having issues trying to add myself to the www-data group on my media server every time i add myself it telling me user already exists but when I check my groups i dont have the www-data group on my account http://pastebin.com/m65b68938 any ideas
[21:23] <Brad777> ign0ramus, I see nothing that says to check box to enable audio system...
[21:23] <ign0ramus> Brad777, wait, what is your initial issue? i must have missed it.  no sound at all?
[21:25] <Brad777> Hello I am having some small trouble with my sound. I was using 32 bit kubuntu using aoss to launch teamspeak2 and that worked fine. Now that I'm using kubuntu64bit after launching teamspeak2 with aoss it hogs the sound card...
[21:26] <Brad777> ign0ramus, after launching ts2 everything loses sound
[21:26] <ign0ramus> Brad777, ok... i don't know much about teamspeak2, but can you set it to use alsa?
[21:26] <Brad777> ign0ramus, no you have to use aoss
[21:26] <draik> I canceled Dolphin. Taking too long at less than 900kb/s
[21:27] <ign0ramus> Brad777, do you get any notifications about sound devices not working?
[21:27] <Brad777> draik, ? really it shouldn't go any slower...
[21:27] <draik> It starts off at about 30-35MB/s, then dies down to 750-900kb/s
[21:29] <draik> I'm doing it through CLI now; cp -v * /folder/path/location/
[21:35] <Brad777> ign0ramus, http://brad777.pastebin.com/m500ee81
[21:35] <draik> What's better, cp -v or rsync -v ?
[21:41] <draik> ign0ramus: Had to jump on my server. Taking as much stress off the desktop for this transfer
[21:44] <stwolf> hey can someone help me out with compiz on kde 4.2 desktop on ubuntu jaunty
[21:45] <draik> ign0ramus: Maybe it is the geek part of me, but I realized it is a SATA drive. I can go to a local shop and get an external SATA drive reader and just pull the content this way. I think the geek part of me just wants to buy more toys instead of solving the USB issue.
[21:45] <stwolf> I have it instaled and load the compiz fusiion icon but whin i reload the window manager it goes to white
[21:45] <stwolf> not sure why
[21:46] <Brad777> stwolf, if you hold on just a sec i can help you i just gotta remember how i fixed it
[21:46] <stwolf> thankx
[21:48] <hubar_> hmm question, what is the KDE way to configure samba settings? (like which workgroup you belong to)
[21:49] <Laeborg> Club3D Radeon PCI-E HD4350 1024MB is this one fine supported ?
.....ARE YOU THERE?
[21:52] <mark____> Laeborg......should work fine
[21:53] <yoga> In Software Updates - KDE Control Module, the botton "Apply to all avaiable updates" will also update the blocked updates ?
[21:54] <Dragnslcr> yoga- I don't think so, no
[22:07] <hubar_> What does "blocked updates" mean?
[22:11] <Dragnslcr> hubar_- if a new version of a package has new dependencies, the package won't be upgraded normally so that new packages aren't installed without you asking for them
[22:12] <topramen> can anyone here tell me what's going on here ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/205176/