[13:45] <blackangelpr> T1960CT, i own and use an asus g73jh-a1 and use a usb mouse but since by default it do not turn off the mouse pad i use this http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/touchpad-indicator-updated-enable-disable-touchpad-via-mouse-wheel/     works perfectly
[13:45] <T1960CT> I've edited "50-synaptics.conf" and it works but if I have my finger on that spot, which is also a button so I have to if I am to click, it stops the rest of the touchpad because you cant have your finger on 2 spots at once, it reads it like your finger is on it even thoug its in a deadzone
[13:46] <bmuk> Gwilder: this looks like it's for the ce http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2219952
[13:47] <T1960CT> blackangelpr: I dont want to completely disable it though, only the section on the buttons themselves
[13:47] <blackangelpr> T1960CT,  it only disable it when you have a mouse plug in so you can do actual work or game :)
[13:47] <GWilder> bmuk, according to code you will install neccessary driver
[13:48] <T1960CT> Yes, I know but I only use the touchpad, I'm a college student so I'm often on the run with my computer and I dont want to run around with a mouse all the time
[13:49] <GWilder> quit
[13:50] <bmuk> I'm cloning the repo now
[13:54] <blackangelpr> by all time to study some android dev
[13:55] <Exclusive> I guess some of you know the answer to this, cause c++ goes right to ##overflow... so here it goes are  "for" and "while" loops considered part of the STL in c++?
[13:56] <cfhowlett> Exclusive, ???   ask ##c  channel for programming support
[13:58] <Exclusive> I had some connection problems to that channel, so I figured someone here knew, but okay ;) sorry.
[14:03] <UnixBird> hi everyone
[14:11] <ramio> did some one call me ?
[14:11] <slipperypete_> ola
[14:12] <slipperypete_> stuck on creating an upstart script.. anyone able to help?
[14:13] <pbx> slipperypete_, what have you tried, and how does it fail?
[14:14] <pbx> slipperypete_, sharing pastebin links always helps too
[14:14] <slipperypete_> can't pastebin on this network unfortunately
[14:14] <slipperypete_> pbx: my script is:
[14:14] <slipperypete_> script exec su -s /bin/sh -c 'exec "$0" "$@"' asciinema -- cd /home/asciinema/asciinema.org/ && exec su -s /bin/sh -c 'exec "$0" "$@"' asciinema -- /usr/local/bin/bundle exec rails server
[14:15] <slipperypete_> end script
[14:15] <slipperypete_> thought that would su to the user asciinema and execute teh bundle script
[14:15] <slipperypete_> doesnt throw errors when i start service, but also doesnt run it
[14:16] <slipperypete_> am i way off?
[14:20] <karab44> hello
[14:20] <karab44> how to kill my desktop manager?
[14:21] <pbx> slipperypete_, since i run a pastebin i'm curious about "can't pastebin on this network". blacklist?
[14:25] <wrongplace> cfhowlett, cinerella is not in the repo
[14:25] <wrongplace> does ubuntu have an alarm clock?
[14:25] <wrongplace> beep in 5 minutes <<<
[14:25] <cfhowlett> wrongplacen, true.  you can get it from its source page
[14:26] <somsip> wrongplace: you can use at
[14:27] <cfhowlett> wrongplace, www.cinelerra.org
[14:27] <x4dr> hello :D I want to update my 12.04 to 14.04 using the update manager, and it says that it could not calculate the update (because either pre release shenanigans or unofficial software packages) and since i have nothing to do with prereleases i deleted  all PPA stuff (cinnamon, weechat and opera) from /etc/apt/sources.list.d (i made a backup)
[14:27] <x4dr> aaand its still giving me the same error
[14:27] <x4dr> i did several apt-get updates by now ^^'
[14:28] <cfhowlett> x4dr, sudo apt-get update -p
[14:29] <x4dr> cfhowlett: what does that do o0
[14:29] <slipperypete_> pbx: yea no collaborative web access
[14:30] <slipperypete_> network restrictions etc
[14:30] <cfhowlett> x4dr, err wrong command.  sudo apt do-release-upgrade -p            will get 14.04.1
[14:30] <cfhowlett> x4dr, sorry, distracted typing
[14:30] <x4dr> cfhowlett: np :D
[14:31] <pbx> slipperypete_, bummer
[14:32] <x4dr> cfhowlett: sudo do-release-upgrade -p still turns up with the same error just this time in a terminal ^^
[14:33] <cfhowlett> x4dr, paste the upgrade
[14:34] <x4dr> cfhowlett: it opens a screen how do i have it log its output?
[14:34] <cfhowlett> paste | x4dr
[14:34] <cfhowlett> !paste
[14:34] <x4dr> http://pastebin.com/RdfyD8YL
[14:36] <cfhowlett> x4dr, sorry.  chinese firewall blocks pastebin.  fpaste.org        works fine.
[14:37] <Actionparsnip> x4dr: is Precise working ok for you?
[14:37] <x4dr> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8290976/
[14:37] <cfhowlett> x4dr, what is the output of cat /etc/issue
[14:37] <x4dr> Actionparsnip: yeeeah kinda, i for my laptop i cant access the brightness, which apparently is possible under 14.04
[14:38] <Actionparsnip> x4dr: did you disable all PPAs?
[14:38] <x4dr> Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS \n \l
[14:38] <cfhowlett> x4dr, and your software sources is set for LTS upgrades only?
[14:39] <Actionparsnip> x4dr: also disable the CD as a package source
[14:39] <x4dr> Actionparsnip: i moved them from /etc/apt/sources.list.d to sources.list.d.old
[14:39] <x4dr> cfhowlett: yes
[14:39] <padhu> Hi ubuntians, anybody tried Ubuntu for android in Moto E XT1022?
[14:40] <cfhowlett> !touch | padhu, "ubuntu for android" is inactive.
[14:40] <x4dr> Actionparsnip: i did
[14:40] <padhu> cfhowlett: thanks
[14:40] <cfhowlett> padhu, happy2help
[14:41] <Actionparsnip> XDS2010: if you run:  sudo apt-get update    is it smotth?
[14:41] <x4dr> Actionparsnip: did you mean me?^^
[14:41] <Actionparsnip> yes
[14:41] <The0x539> Anyone around to help me through compiling dockbarx-xfce4-plugin for my ARM system?
[14:42] <Actionparsnip> x4dr: is apt-get update    smooth?
[14:42] <SiMoNe88> hi at all
[14:42] <streulma> On Retina screen with scaled resolution I have subpixels and text is blurry. What can I do?
[14:42] <x4dr> Actionparsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8291011/ no errors
[14:43] <slipperypete_> pbx: sorted mate
[14:43] <slipperypete_> thanks
[14:43] <streulma> I want to use Ubuntu on my Mac :)
[14:44] <streulma> Install is no problem
[14:44] <streulma> but the resolution is not ok
[14:44] <ikonia> !mac | Steve
[14:44] <ikonia> oops
[14:44] <ikonia> !mac > streulma
[14:44] <streulma> ikonia I know how to install Ubuntu on a Mac, no worrys!
[14:45] <karab44> how to kill my desktop manager? I use Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[14:45] <Actionparsnip> karab44: killall compiz
[14:45] <Actionparsnip> oops
[14:45] <Actionparsnip> sorry
[14:45] <Actionparsnip> karab44: sudo service lightdm stop
[14:46] <karab44> ok!
[14:46] <karab44> Thank you
[14:46] <karab44> Ill try
[14:46] <philinux> karab44;~ do you want to return to login screen
[14:46] <karab44> philinux: I don't want nothing there
[14:46] <philinux> ok
[14:46] <karab44> I want to xinit 3d app in tty for performance
[14:56] <Fbigun> me &2
[14:56]  * Fbigun &2
[14:56] <mjayk>  /disconnect
[14:59] <bae> ?
[14:59] <The0x539> !
[14:59] <Actionparsnip> ~
[15:00] <ruud> hello
[15:02] <pbx> any other emacs users have a suggestion for keeping Dash from popping up when you're using the alt key?
[15:04] <intellix> trying to block a port... seems like I'm getting DOSd.. I added something like: "iptables -A INPUT -s <IP_ADDRESS> -j DROP" but still am seeing entries hitting my apache2 access.log... do I need to restart something to get my iptables to update?
[15:05] <Actionparsnip> pbx: use a different key to show the HUD
[15:06] <JNixx> intellix: WHat type of DOS. If they are hitting a specific file you can block access to that with .htaccess of the config.
[15:06] <intellix> it's xmlrpc.php.... wordpress vulnerability I think... the iptables thing should work though right?
[15:06] <JNixx> intellix: BLock access to the file until they stop
[15:07] <JNixx> intellix: Happened to me 2 weeks ago. I've still got the file blocked as i don't use its functionality
[15:07] <intellix> will do.... but still curious about the iptables not working
[15:07] <intellix> shouldn't that take the IP and just stop it from getting through altogether?
[15:07] <Actionparsnip> intellix: if you list iptables' rules is it present?
[15:07] <JNixx> intellix: You would have to block aces to port 80 or 443 or what ever port your apache server is listening on. If it's a dos blocking a single IP won't work
[15:08] <intellix> it looks a little different: "DROP       all  --  68.ip-192-99-246.net  anywhere"
[15:08] <intellix> well, blocking all ports for INPUT. I know it could come from multiple places but still trying to just block at least one to see what happens :P
[15:09] <intellix> ah... that one isn't in there actually
[15:10] <Actionparsnip> intellix: bingo
[15:10] <intellix> doesn't get blocked straight away, I guess it takes a few seconds to update iptables?
[15:11] <pbx> tx Actionparsnip
[15:13] <SK1N_H34D> anyone know a web service ajenti ??
[15:15] <SK1N_H34D> did you know ajenti ?
[15:16] <cfhowlett> !info ajenti
[15:16] <Actionparsnip> SK1N_H34D: looks like some phpmyadmin-like thing for people too lazy to learn how to cxonfigure applications properly using config files
[15:17] <SK1N_H34D> thx..
[15:17] <Actionparsnip> SK1N_H34D: if you use SSH and config files, your skills will be transferrable and you will actually understand your OS rather than some abstracted nonsense
[15:18] <SK1N_H34D> where i get a control panel study to installation on my server ??
[15:18] <cfhowlett> !server | SK1N_H34D,
[15:19] <Actionparsnip> SK1N_H34D: http://support.ajenti.org/topic/349868-installing-on-ubuntu/
[15:19] <Actionparsnip> SK1N_H34D: you wont learn anything using this thing
[15:19] <Actionparsnip> SK1N_H34D: plus if it mangles your files, we wont be able to help you
[15:19] <Actionparsnip> SK1N_H34D: PS. I found that link in what...2 mins....
[15:21] <stormzen> Hi.  I had a working 12.10 installation with an encrypted partition and swap.  I upgraded to 14.1, and started seeing the message: "Error: File not found"  before booting.  I tried to solve this with sudo grub-install /dev/sdX ( I obviously wasn't thinking clearly )... this failed, naturally, because I was supposed to substitute for X, but sudo grub-update did not fail, so I rebooted, and was greeted with grub rescue> prompt.  I booted into a 12.10 CD, c
[15:21] <stormzen> reated a boot disk for 14.1 on USB, and am now trying to figure out how to get it working again.  ... Can anyone assist?
[15:22] <blaubarschbube> hi. is there a way to get wget or curl to cache authorization?
[15:22] <rberg_> "including a server specific !kernel" is this still true? I thought there wasnt a server specific kernel anymore.
[15:23] <blaubarschbube> stormzen, is setting up from the scratch an option? you can then mount your encrypted drive
[15:23] <Actionparsnip> stormzen: #ubuntu+1 for Utropic support
[15:23] <Actionparsnip> *utopic
[15:24] <stormzen> blaubarschbube, I'm unable to mount the encrypted drive from the livecd.  It won't accept the pw that worked from the boot screen.
[15:24] <stormzen> #ubuntu+1
[15:24] <stormzen> Ok, Actionparsnip, I don't know how to parse that.
[15:25] <JNixx> intellix: It should update right away. .htaccess is a much simpler method to block a file though :). Not really a job for IPTables
[15:25] <stormzen> Oh, it's another channel.  nvm.
[15:25] <TJ-> stormzen: Have you tried unlocking it using the terminal, rather than GUI, tools?
[15:25] <stormzen> TJ-, No, I haven't tried that.
[15:25] <intellix> seems to have wrked anyway :D I thought .htaccess would still require an apache process to go through.... and not really do much
[15:25] <developej> hey, i have strane problem with nrpe on ubuntu host. running scritp (check_linux_stats.pl) locally on host works, but when i run that script from monitor server i get "NRPE: Unable to read output"...running other scripts works without issues. the script has the same permissions as other scripts (755). ideas?
[15:26] <TJ-> stormzen: "sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdXY crypt_dev" is what you want to try
[15:26] <intellix> or are you saying the bot attacking the script probably has so many attempts, then just stops trying anyway
[15:26] <intellix> didn't want an endless amount of requests regardless :P
[15:27] <TJ-> stormzen: If that unlocks the LUKS device, you'll have a new unencrypted block device at "/dev/mapper/crpyt_dev". If it is a file-system you can then mount it somewhere
[15:28] <stormzen> TJ-, The message that I'm getting is "No key available with passphrase"
[15:29] <blaubarschbube> stormzen, I dont really remeber anymore, but maybe that helps somehow http://pastebin.com/mei7NNB0
[15:29] <stormzen> ( That was also the message that I got from the GUI. )
[15:29] <musca> blaubarschbube: wget with authorization: use two commands, first one for the login with --save-cookies, then a second for the download with --load-cookies
[15:29] <TJ-> stormzen: You're either using the wrong pass-phrase *or* there are 'international' characters in it, and the current keyboard translation isn't producing the same codes
[15:31] <TJ-> stormzen: I always add a binary key-file to LUKS just in case, to avoid this kind of issue.
[15:31] <stormzen> TJ- I think I had one of those.  Would it be stored under /etc ?
[15:33] <TJ-> stormzen: I hope not! Key-files should be on external or separately encrypted media
[15:34] <mjayk> Can I manually control when my laptop uses its nvidia card as oppose to its intel card ?
[15:34] <mjayk> u14.04 64b
[15:35] <TJ-> stormzen: If you think the issue is keyboard translation, reconfigure consolekit to use the same encoding as was used previously
[15:36] <stormzen> TJ-, I was using a standard install for 12.10.  Would the liveCD for 14.1 be different?
[15:36] <stormzen> I don't think I used any special characters, though.
[15:36] <ubuntu-master> hi, i have a problem wit ubunto
[15:37] <ubuntu-master> i cant install itunes
[15:37] <ubuntu-master> ineed it because i have an iphone
[15:37] <TJ-> stormzen: Things like a US vs UK keyboard layout can cause issues even
[15:37] <ubuntu-master> what can i do
[15:37] <ubuntu-master> im so desperated
[15:37] <Langlee> Use wine
[15:37] <cfhowlett> ubuntu-master, you are not making sense.
[15:38] <TJ-> stormzen: I've seen a laptop's Num Lock cause issues too, although that is mostly at boot-time when GRUB's /boot/ is encrypted and the BIOS enables Num Lock by default
[15:38] <cfhowlett> !itunes | ubuntu-master, itunes does not run on ubuntu.  complain to apple or use an alternative
[15:38] <ubuntu-master> thats so sad
[15:38] <ubuntu-master> i hate apol
[15:39] <InformaticPLS> if u want hav ituns
[15:39] <InformaticPLS> u ned to restart ur computer
[15:39] <InformaticPLS> https://apple.com/itunes
[15:39] <InformaticPLS> heres the linck
[15:39] <InformaticPLS> just clik dounload and thats all
[15:39] <stormzen> TJ-, Is there a way to unlock it if I don't know the password?  I've got all the time in the world, as opposed to losing everything stored in that partition...
[15:39] <ubuntu-master> i asked a serious question
[15:39] <InformaticPLS> ya ik
[15:40] <cfhowlett> !behelpful | InformaticPLS,
[15:40] <InformaticPLS> i just anwer u
[15:40] <InformaticPLS> im helpful u fker
[15:40] <TJ-> stormzen: That would defeat the entire point of encryption, wouldn't it?
[15:40] <ubuntu-master> no u are not
[15:40] <InformaticPLS> more helful than u
[15:40] <cfhowlett> !wine | ubuntu-master, itunes MIGHT run on wine to some degree but not enough to be very useful.
[15:40] <InformaticPLS> asking shit man
[15:40] <stormzen> TJ-, Ultimately, yes, I suppose it would.
[15:40] <InformaticPLS> whatever u want
[15:40] <cfhowlett> InformaticPLS, no profanity.  stop now.
[15:40] <Beldar> ubuntu-master  InformaticPLS same IP
[15:40] <InformaticPLS> just install wine
[15:41] <TJ-> ubuntu-master: InformaticPLS Please behave, you're abusing the channel and spamming
[15:41] <InformaticPLS> everything its solved now
[15:41] <ubuntu-master> !shutup | InformaticPLS
[15:41] <InformaticPLS> youre welcome
[15:41] <cfhowlett> ubuntu-master, no need for that.  let's move on.
[15:41] <SuperLag> When I scroll up/down in Chrome, it's not smooth. I'm not sure what word to use, that best describes it. It's like it flickers, and jumps up and down as it moves either direction.  UGH.
[15:43] <lewk> is it more secure to ssh into irssi or no
[15:43] <ubuntu-master> cfhowlett thank you very much
[15:43] <stormzen> TJ-, I run a 64 bit os.  grub-update appears to have installed a directory i386-pc.  Is that a sign that something else may have wiped out the ability to access the root partition from boot?  It was working fine before running grub-setup.
[15:43] <cfhowlett> ubuntu-master, happy2help
[15:43] <SuperLag> lewk: more secure?
[15:43] <blaubarschbube> musca, good hint. but I have just one single wget call. and I want caching such that wget doesnt authentificate for each picture on that page
[15:43] <ubuntu-master> :)
[15:43] <stormzen> TJ-, sorry, running grub-update, rather.
[15:43] <lewk> secure as in im not remote but a local user
[15:43] <TJ-> stormzen: That is fine, at boot time the CPU is not in protected / long mode
[15:44] <The> YO NIGGA SUP
[15:44] <The> windows is too much mainstream
[15:44] <blaubarschbube> musca, aahh, just read that I indeed only need one call. gonna try..
[15:44] <cfhowlett> the  wrong channel for that.
[15:44] <The> anyone for sexcam ?
[15:44] <cfhowlett> the go away.  wrong channel.
[15:44] <TJ-> stormzen: I'm wondering if you did "sudo grub-install /dev/sda1" and wrote the boot sector over the LUKS header of the encrypted partition
[15:44] <stormzen> TJ-, But is there any chance that there was a keyfile, of some sort, on the boot partition that is needed in combination with the password I was using to unlock all the partitions?
[15:45] <The> TJ sounds so nigger
[15:45] <cfhowlett> !ops | The "sexcam" request
[15:45] <blaubarschbube> The, depends..
[15:45] <stormzen> TJ-, No, it was sudo grub-install /dev/sdX, and it failed.
[15:45] <The> about what ?
[15:45] <stormzen> TJ-, That sounds very, very bad, though.
[15:45] <cfhowlett> blaubarschbube, golden rule " do not feed trolls"
[15:45] <The> TJ are u going to KF today ?
[15:45] <The> KFC
[15:45] <blaubarschbube> cfhowlett, I forgott
[15:46] <LoRez> The: That's quite enough.
[15:46] <TJ-> stormzen: Key-files are separate from pass phrases, but in the end they act as keys into 1 of the 7 LUKS slots of a dm_crypt volume
[15:46] <The> How many inches TJ ?
[15:46] <The> Talk me dirty to me
[15:46] <The> PLS
[15:46] <cfhowlett> !ops | The racism sexism etc
[15:46] <Actionparsnip> Thanks
[15:47] <SuperLag> cfhowlett: I thought the golden IRC rule was to SLAY all the trolls? :)
[15:47] <SonikkuAmerica> lol
[15:47] <Actionparsnip> SuperLag: or feed them til they pop
[15:47] <cfhowlett> SuperLag, trolls thrive on attention.
[15:47] <SuperLag> <whistling innocently>
[15:47] <SuperLag> cfhowlett: dead trolls don't thrive ;)
[15:47] <stormzen> TJ-, Is there a way to tell if I wrote the boot sector over the LUKS header of the encrypted partition?  The encrypted partition, by the way is /dev/sda8 .
[15:48] <TJ-> stormzen: Check the headers of the encrpyted volume: "sudo cryptsetup luksDump /dev/sdXY"
[15:48] <SchitZen665> Trolls, they're whats for dinner
[15:49] <TJ-> stormzen: You'd expect to see something like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/8291456/
[15:49] <stormzen> TJ-, I do see something like that.  Should I pastebin what I see?
[15:49] <TJ-> stormzen: How many slots are used?
[15:50] <stormzen> Same as yours, I have a 0 and a 1.
[15:50] <DolphinDream> howdy bunterz
[15:51] <DolphinDream> does anyone know how to change the dock (launcher) icons ?
[15:51] <TJ-> stormzen: 1. are you sure you're remembering the pass phrase correctly? 2. Is Caps Lock involved? 3. Try typing the pass-phrase to the shell prompt just to ensure that the characters you think you are typing are the ones being sent
[15:52] <stormzen> TJ-, In case it's helpful:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/8291499/
[15:52] <TJ-> stormzen: So you have 2 keys set, one will be the pass-phrase for sure, the other could be another pass-phrase or a key-file
[15:52] <geudrik> kernel 3.17-rc4 builds appear to break default openssh-server config (permanently get connection refused)
[15:52] <stormzen> TJ-, Yes, I added a second pass phrase at some point.  I recall that much.
[15:52] <stormzen> TJ-, Also, it's the second pass phrase I'm trying to use.
[15:53] <TJ-> stormzen: OK, so ensure when typing the pass-phrase it is appearing as you expect at the terminal. If so, you can discount Num-Lock/Caps-Lock/keyboard translation issues and focus on remembering the correct pass phrase :)
[15:53] <geudrik> kernel 3.17-rc4 addresses ethernet adapters differently than 3.13.0-35
[15:54] <TJ-> stormzen: The way LUKS works, the passphrase you give it is tested against each slot in turn until either one matches, or the last slot has been tried
[15:54] <stormzen> TJ-, So, the dump shows that I didn't overwrite the partition?
[15:54] <DolphinDream> where are the launcher items stored ? (e.g. the dock launching icons/shortcuts on the dock)
[15:55] <TJ-> stormzen: The dump wouldn't be valid if you had over-written it
[15:55] <stormzen> TJ-, * I meant the LUKS header ... ok, thanks.
[15:56] <raymond85> good day
[15:59] <ArgentoPelotudo> hola soy un argento
[15:59] <ArgentoPelotudo> que contaas
[15:59] <ArgentoPelotudo> algun dolobu para boludear?
[15:59] <cfhowlett> !es | ArgentoPelotudo,
[16:00] <Actionparsnip> geudrik: 3.17 isnt the official kernel of Trusty
[16:00] <ArgentoPelotudo> pero sho ablo españiol bolu
[16:00] <Actionparsnip> !info linux-image-generic
[16:01] <raymond85> exit
[16:01] <stormzen> TJ-, I made sure that numlock wasn't set, and capslock has an LED for when it is set.  The passphrase didn't work.  I then set the numlock, and tried again, in case it was working in reverse.  That didn't work.  I then added in the capslock key, which also didn't work.  I'm 99% sure I have the right passphrase...
[16:02] <geudrik> ArgentoPelotudo: I'm aware (the -rc gives that away if nothing else), however it should be noted that there are issues. Using latest kernel when you're after features in it is important. On that token, perhaps you can tell me why 3.13.0 uses bios names for ethernet instead of ethX (eg: why did this change in 14.04)
[16:02] <TJ-> stormzen: LUKS disagrees with you :)
[16:03] <geudrik> s/14.04/3.13.0
[16:03] <TJ-> stormzen: Have you typed the pass-phrase in clear text to be sure what you think you're typing is what you expect?
[16:03] <stormzen> TJ-, Yes.
[16:04] <stormzen> TJ-, Ah, I think I see the error of my ways.
[16:06] <stormzen> TJ-, The root was a different partition.  Inside the root is an /etc/crypttab_keyfile which is used to unlock the /home and /swap partitions.  I've been trying to unlock the /home parition.
[16:06] <stormzen> TJ-, I'm able to mount the / using my key phrase.  Can you help me fix grub2?
[16:08] <TJ-> stormzen: Aha!   Depends on what you've done to it :)
[16:08] <stormzen> TJ-, Essentially, I did grub-install /dev/sdX , and when that failed, grub-setup.  Since that command didn't fail, I rebooted.
[16:09] <TJ-> stormzen: If the root file-system is also encrypted, then there needs to be an entry for it in "/etc/crypttab", and the initrd.img hooks will need to install cryptsetup and the cryyptab entry into the initrd.img
[16:10] <stormzen> TJ-, I'm not sure that makes sense.  The root file system is inaccessible before it's unlocked.
[16:10] <stormzen> TJ-, The keys for /home and /swap do not match /.
[16:10] <TJ-> stormzen: That fact you reported being at the "grub rescue>" prompt suggests that "/boot/" is also encrypted and GRUB can't access it
[16:10] <stormzen> TJ-, No, /boot is not encrypted.
[16:12] <TJ-> stormzen: It may (have) been damaged; do an fsck on its file-system to be sure. If that is OK, then re-install grub ("grub-install /dev/sdX") from *within* a correctly mounted chroot of the broken system
[16:12] <stormzen> TJ-, This was the gem that helped me understand what my setup was:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/8291637/  ... I had the encryption setup when I purchased the laptop through los alamos computers.
[16:13] <stormzen> TJ-, Ugh.  I have to do a chroot... ok... I've done that before...
[16:14] <TJ-> stormzen: I have a script that automates it, if that helps? https://iam.tj/projects/misc/chroot-auto.bash
[16:14] <wrongplace> with what do I add a .srt file to a .mkv or -mp4 file?
[16:15] <cfhowlett> wrongplace, what kind of file is .srt
[16:15] <wrongplace> subtitles
[16:15] <stormzen> TJ-, That's a killer URL you got there.  :)
[16:15] <stormzen> TJ-, I think it even beats "John.com" .
[16:18] <stormzen> TJ-, Does the root need to be unmounted, or mounted?
[16:19] <TJ-> stormzen: For the script? not mounted. type the script name to get the usage info
[16:19] <qazqaz> Hi guys, I've got a problem here. Running 14.04 left bar dash isn't showing after logging. What to do?
[16:19] <stormzen> TJ-, Even though it's encrypted?
[16:19] <TJ-> stormzen: Decryption is separate to mounting
[16:19] <stormzen> TJ-, I'm trying to get to it.  Oh, I think the GUI does both at the same time.
[16:20] <cfhowlett> wrongplace, as I thought; ffmpeg/avconv      http://linuxg.net/how-to-embed-subtitles-to-movies-with-mencoder-and-ffmpeg/
[16:20] <TJ-> stormzen: An unencrpyted block device has a device-mapper node (under /dev/mapper/), which can then be mounted someplace to access its file-system
[16:20] <TJ-> stormzen: Yes, probably it does.
[16:20] <jr_> How can I calculate the number of platters I have on my hard disk?
[16:20] <k1l> jr_: see the hardware description form manufacturer
[16:20] <TJ-> jr_: You can't; look up the device specifications based on the model number
[16:21] <dav1dp0101> I'm using rsync to backup my root directory, but my backup folder is filled to capacity because the /proc folder took all free space, even though the original is not that big. Does anyone know why this would be?
[16:22] <rww> dav1dp0101: don't backup /proc. It's a virtual filesystem that interfaces with the kernel, not actual physical files you need to backup.
[16:22] <rww> dav1dp0101: Depending on your kernel configuration, it might contain stuff like the entire contents of system memory, which is... not small.
[16:22] <dav1dp0101> rww: really? Ok, thanks. that should probably fix the problem.
[16:23] <rww> same goes for /sys, by the way (though I think that is small)
[16:24] <jr_> Even if I know the number of cylinders I have? I still can't find the number of platters?
[16:25] <TJ-> jr_: the numbers you see are not real - unless you're using an old MFM or RLL drive
[16:25] <jr_> TJ-: Let's assume they are. Can I do it?
[16:25] <TJ-> dav1dp0101: You probably need to use rsync's "--one-file-system" option when backing up the root file-system
[16:26] <TJ-> jr_: I never assume - I work from evidence :)
[16:26] <jr_> TJ-: My evidence is given to me as fact for a stated problem.
[16:27] <dav1dp0101> TJ- In the rsync man page it just says "--one-file-system    don't cross filesystem boundaries"  What does that even mean?
[16:27] <eeee> dav1dp0101: maybe if there's a symlink or something it doesn't follow to other file systems?
[16:28] <eeee> or if a filesystem is mounted under a dir it wont follow it?
[16:28] <yoeria_> #buildroot
[16:29] <dav1dp0101> eeee: I have no idea.
[16:29] <stormzen> TJ-, path/to/mountpoint, is that where I will mount the chroot?
[16:31] <TJ-> stormzen: Yes; I usually "mkdir /target" and use it as the mountpoint - that's the convention the Debian/Ubuntu installer uses
[16:32] <stormzen> TJ-, Ok, thanks.
[16:32] <TJ-> dav1dp0101: What eeee said. You've got a proc file-system mounted at /proc/ - and various others like /dev/ and /sys/.  You don't want rsync trying to traverse those
[16:33] <TimeVirus> yo
[16:34] <stormzen> TJ-, And /dev/path/to/root-files is /dev/mapper/crypt_dev ?
[16:34] <TJ-> stormzen: Correct :)
[16:35] <designbybeck> I get a SEGFault evertime I try to open my Docuements folder. I've checked in the terminal and I can't see any odd file or folder in there. I tried reinstalling Nautilus  and clearing the .config files for it, but nothing has seemed to work
[16:35] <TJ-> stormzen: If the /home/ is encrypted ensure that is LuksOpen too so that when the script reads the "/etc/fstab" in the root file-system, it can mount it from the *correct* device-mapper node name
[16:35] <designbybeck> Any suggestions
[16:35] <designbybeck> Ubuntu 14.04 64bit
[16:36] <dav1dp0101> TJ- thanks. I've included /proc/*** and /sys/*** in my excludes file.
[16:36] <TJ-> stormzen: E.g., if in the root file-system's "/etc/fstab" it has "/dev/mapper/home" ensure you've done "cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda8 home" and have a "/dev/mapper/home"
[16:36] <techroot> Buenas.
[16:37] <TJ-> dav1dp0101: You might want to do that for /dev/ and for /var/run and /run/ and /tmp/ and some directories under /var/cache/ too
[16:37] <Actionparsnip> designbybeck: tried a different file manager?
[16:37] <stormzen> TJ-, /etc/fstab doesn't look like the right fstab file.  ( It doesn't contain the references to the /etc/crypt file )
[16:37] <techroot> Someone knows a way to use Telepathy KDE with Facebook Chat?
[16:38] <TJ-> stormzen: No, you need the one inside the root file-system. But you pastebin tells you the correct device-mapper names doesn't it? (/dev/mapper/root and /dev/mapper/home)
[16:38] <TJ-> stormzen: So it comes down to ensuring the 'home' is called /dev/mapper/home
[16:40] <Actionparsnip> designbybeck: tried a reboot?
[16:40] <designbybeck> yes Actionparsnip this has gone on for a very long time
[16:40] <Actionparsnip> designbybeck: ok, have you tried a different file manager?
[16:40] <designbybeck> I normally just save to a differnet folder. I can browse for files in other programs to open documents from withing the DOcuments folder Actionparsnip but not from nautilus itself
[16:40] <designbybeck> not yet
[16:41] <geudrik> designbybeck: have you done an $ ls -lah in ~/ to check for funky filenames? Also, are your permissions on your home folder correct?
[16:42] <designbybeck> geudrik, just tried that, what am I looking for
[16:42] <geudrik> designbybeck: filenames with weird characters
[16:42] <Actionparsnip> designbybeck: might be worth running an fsck from liveCD overnight
[16:43] <TJ-> designbybeck: I'd bet you've got corrupted images that the thumbnailer is trying to parse. Try disabling thumbnails
[16:43] <eeee> designbybeck: ls -al ~/Documents | pastebinit
[16:43] <eeee> yeah a zero length .flv .mp3 .avi .. etc. file
[16:43] <designbybeck> TJ-,  I did try that already didn't seem to fix it
[16:43] <geudrik> designbybeck: your home folder should have permissions of 755 (default)
[16:44] <designbybeck> eeee, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8291840/
[16:45] <designbybeck> geudrik,  that looks to be the case
[16:45] <indn1234> Hey, I need to install Win8 dual boot on my Ubuntu machine (single partition on 500GB HDD), without touching the Ubuntu installation. How do I go about it?
[16:45] <jhutchins> indn1234: Get a new disk?
[16:45] <TJ-> designbybeck: The way I've quickly fixed that in the past is to create a new user account, log in as it, run the File Manager and check it doesn't fail on the (empty) Documents directory, then copy batches of files into it from the problem user account's Documents directory, and retry the File Manager each time. At some point, if the cause is a corrupted file, you'll hit the same failure, and then you'll know which batch of files contains the problem. You can then
[16:45] <TJ->  delete them one by one and re-try until the failure no longer happens. Then you know the file causing it, and can delete it from the real user account
[16:46] <TimeVirus> vbox
[16:46] <jhutchins> indn1234: If it's a single partition taking the whole disk you can't install to that disk without touching it.
[16:46] <designbybeck> guess that is my last resort TJ- ...which I might be at that! Thanks
[16:47] <jhutchins> TJ-: Why not just run fsck?
[16:47] <designbybeck> and Actionparsnip Which other File Manager do you suggest for the time being to give it a test
[16:47] <indn1234> jhutchins: can't I shrink the partiiton in a live session and use the freed space to create a new primary partition to put Win8 in it?
[16:47] <TJ-> designbybeck: The other way is to start the File Manager (Nautilus I assume) from the terminal, using strace, and wait for it to SEFFAULT and look at the last file it was trying to process. e.g. "strace -fe trace=file nautilus"
[16:47] <k1l> indn1234: yes. but as always: if you touch partitions, better have a backup.
[16:47] <stormzen> TJ-, Ok, So I have these entries under /dev/mapper:  control  crypt_dev  home  swap ... root is crypt_dev, because that's the name I gave it through luksOpen, but I'm already chrooted in there, so I should be set to enter the commands now, right?
[16:47] <TJ-> jhutchins: fsck won't detect a corrupted file, only corruption in the meta-data of a file-system
[16:47] <jhutchins> indn1234: I would consider that "touching", but yes, you can do that.
[16:48] <k1l> indn1234: because murphys law
[16:48] <jhutchins> indn1234: As with any time you're messing with a live partition table, you should back up anything important to you.
[16:48] <jhutchins> indn1234: You might want to add a swap partition while you're at it.
[16:48] <TJ-> stormzen: If you're using the script, then it'll have dropped you to a shell in the chroot with all the /proc /sys /dev /dev/pts configured correctly, and /boot mounted too
[16:49] <indn1234> jhutchins: any way I can back up my programs and stuff, so that I may restore the UBuntu as it is, in case I fuck things up.
[16:49] <jhutchins> !backup
[16:49] <stormzen> TJ-, There is no /boot.
[16:49] <stormzen> TJ-, I am using the script, though.
[16:49] <designbybeck> TJ-, when I ran strace nautilus it opened but went back to the command promte
[16:50] <TJ-> stormzen: There must be! You said that /boot/ was outside of the  encrypted root file-system
[16:50] <stormzen> TJ-, Well, there is a boot directory, but it's not mounted.
[16:50] <stormzen> TJ-, I can probably manually mount it to the correct partition.  It is outside of the encrypted file system.
[16:50] <TJ-> stormzen: Isn't there an entry in the chroot's /etc/fstab for the /boot mount? If there is, the script would mount - it is essential else grub won't be able to (re)install correctly
[16:51] <TJ-> stormzen: If there isn't an entry, that would explain why the system failed to boot
[16:51] <stormzen> TJ-, There is an entry ... but #ls /boot is empty.
[16:52] <TJ-> stormzen: OK, do "mount -a" and it should get mounted. Check the contents of /boot/ after doing that, to be sure
[16:52] <stormzen> TJ-, Ok, yeah, that looks right.
[16:52] <cas_> Hi, I got a problem with lightdm login. Whenever I login, I automaticly redirected to the lightdm login screen directly. I got no "password wrong" notify just a flash in my screen.
[16:53] <Benemy> Hello all. Im trying to get help choosing the right driver under additional drivers. I have  NVIDIA Corporation G84M [GeForce 8600M GT] (rev a1) and wanna make sure i dont do anything to mess up.
[16:53] <cas_> I can login on a other TTY and it I got the problem also with other window managers (such as Gnome)
[16:53] <TJ-> stormzen: OK, now do "update-initramfs -uv" then "grub-install /dev/sda" then "update-grub"
[16:53] <k1l> cas_: look at the users home folder and see (with "ls -al") if all stuff belongs to your user:user
[16:54] <TJ-> cas_: check ownership of "/home/$USER/.Xauthority" file ... probably needs deleting
[16:54] <stormzen> TJ-, grub-install /dev/sda will overwrite the LUKS header, won't it?
[16:54] <k1l> cas_: especially the .XAuthority files
[16:54] <TJ-> stormzen: No, there is no LUKS header on the whole disk, the LUKS headers are in the partitions (6,7,8)
[16:55] <cas_> k1l: Thanks a million, that was it. .Xauthority was owned by root
[16:55] <TJ-> stormzen: "grub-install" is (re)writing the Master Boot Sector (or for EFI, the /EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi)
[16:55] <stormzen> TJ-, Ok, what does update-initramfs do?
[16:55] <Actionparsnip> designbybeck: pcmanfm2
[16:55] <eeee> maybe that was caused by using sudo instead of gksu
[16:55] <designbybeck> k thanks
[16:56] <eeee> ( @ cas_ )
[16:56] <TJ-> stormzen: updates the initrd.img ... you'll probably need to give it the "-k " option to tell it the exact kernel version to update since you're not running the live system
[16:56] <Benemy> Looking to get help selectings and updating my drivers
[16:57] <TJ-> stormzen: Look in "/boot/" and check what the most recent (latest) kernel version is ("ls /boot/vmlinuz*") There'll be a matching "initrd.img-$VERSION"
[16:57] <TJ-> stormzen: So you'd need "update-initramfs -uv -k $VERSION"
[16:58] <stormzen> TJ-, It looks like:  /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-68-generic , so update-initramfs -uv -k /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-68-generic ?
[16:59] <TJ-> stormzen: "update-initramfs -uv -k 3.2.0-68-generic"
[16:59] <designbybeck> well gee Actionparsnip pcmanfm failed too
[16:59] <designbybeck> SIGSEGV
[16:59] <Actionparsnip> designbybeck: I'd run a file system check in live cd, make sure all is well
[17:00] <TJ-> Actionparsnip: designbybeck No need to do it from a Live CD; just add "--force-fsck" to the kernel command-line, and 'mountall' will force t
[17:00] <TJ-> s/t/it/
[17:01] <TJ-> Actionparsnip: designbybeck Additionally, if you wish to force a fix, use "--fsck-fix"
[17:01] <designbybeck> TJ-,  what exactly would the command be.
[17:02] <stormzen> TJ-, I see:  Installing for i386-pc platform ... I thought I  was running 64 bits, isn't that amd-64 ?
[17:03] <TJ-> designbybeck: Reboot. Hold down Shift key. At GRUB boot menu, highlight the boot entry, press 'e' to edit it. Navigate to the line "linux ...". Navigate to the end of the line, and append the text "--force-fsck". Press Ctrl+X to boot with that modified command list
[17:03] <niargh> Using 14.04 desktop. Somehow lost the application that installs software (ubuntu software center?) and also the default app to open .deb files. How can I fix?
[17:03] <TJ-> stormzen: i386-pc is the GRUB architecture for x86 PCs, whether 32 or 64 bit capable
[17:04] <stormzen> TJ-, Did it used to only be amd-64 ?  I don't know where I pulled that from.  I've updated grub.  I guess I'm ready to pull the trigger.
[17:05] <eeee> niargh: sudo apt-get install software-center
[17:05] <Benemy> Looking to get help selectings and updating my drivers
[17:05] <eeee> niargh: or, sudo apt-get install --reinstall software-center
[17:05] <squinty_> niargh,  and   gdebi   for deb packages
[17:05] <stormzen> TJ-, But before I do... Is there a way to unchroot and copy some files from the luksOpened root directory?
[17:05] <TJ-> stormzen: No, it's always been i386. That's the mode the CPU is in after BIOS hands over to GRUB
[17:06] <TJ-> stormzen: You could open another terminal shell and use that whilst the current one has the chroot open, then return to the chroot and type "exit" when you're done
[17:07] <pippus> ale
[17:07] <MonkeyDust> stormzen  or ctrl-shift t for a new tab
[17:07] <pippus> ci sono ragazze?
[17:07] <Actionparsnip> TJ-: i prefer to do it manually, but I guess that way works too
[17:07] <eeee> !it | pippus
[17:07] <MonkeyDust> pippus  alt-f4
[17:13] <niargh> Thanks eeee, that did it!
[17:14] <eeee> no problem
[17:15] <stormzen> ok.  Here goes.  brb.
[17:18] <c107> How do I access PEAP networks using Ubuntu?
[17:22] <stormzen> TJ-, It worked!  Thank you *so* much!  Do you have an amazon wish-list for people to exhibit gratitude?
[17:22] <stormzen> Is there a way to get the log for the last 2 hours for this channel?
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> !logs | stormzen
[17:24] <TJ-> stormzen: I don't; I prefer people to join the community and help others in the same way I do, as a way of showing their appreciation
[17:24] <TJ-> stormzen: Do you want a transcript of our conversation?
[17:24] <rsaffi> TJ-: I do!
[17:25] <rsaffi> Just joined, and it seems to be a good talk
[17:25] <TJ-> stormzen: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8292119/
[17:25] <stormzen> TJ-, Yes.  Thanks!
[17:25] <rsaffi> many thanks! :)
[17:26] <stormzen> TJ-, That's perfect, thanks.
[17:26] <TJ-> stormzen: You'll need to update to the Trusty kernel versions now; I recall you said the most recent was 3.2.x, and Trusty has 3.13.x
[17:27] <cameron__> hello can anyone help me?
[17:27] <stormzen> TJ-, I may have given bad info;  This is what I have:  Linux ThinkPad-T520 3.13.0-35-generic #62
[17:28] <TJ-> stormzen: Ahhh OK ... so we updated an initrd that didn't need it :D
[17:29] <stormzen> TJ-, err... ... maybe?
[17:30] <stormzen> TJ-, Yeah, I did say 3.2 ... I thought that was the latest that was listed.
[17:34] <thc> I got question the ubuntu desktop 14.01 lts installation failed on DVD same with USB
[17:35]  * pbx just sent a cranky note to gotomeeting urging linux support
[17:35] <stormzen> pbx, I think I sent one of those a few months ago.
[17:38] <pbx> stormzen, i'm sure they'll be getting back to us soon
[17:40] <thc> I'm stuck on NetBoot on install the base system
[17:43] <thc> Error reads base system installation error The debootstrap program exited with error (return value 1) . Check /var/logs/syslog or see virtual console 4 for details.
[17:43] <thc> Anyone know a way around it
[18:05] <waykool99> i've tried the BT icon in the taskbar, BT Manager in Settings Manager, randomly (hit and miss) checked/unchecked several boxes. how does BT talk to my LG earbuds, iHome speakers etc etc?
[18:07] <daz_fr> hi
[18:07] <TJ-> waykool99: Bluetooth daemon will pair with the BT devices, and optionally enable an audio connection. From there, you'll need to use the Audio hardware configuration to have audio directed to the appropriate device
[18:08] <waykool99> ahhh. thank you for responding.
[18:10] <kjm> hi all
[18:11] <waykool99> i noticed the 2 checkboxes with red "Experimental!" and "Very Experimental". to Pair iHome speakers, would checking either of those boxes help?
[18:16] <thc> Problem comes up "debootstrap program exited with an error" "Check /var/log or see virtual console #3" "failed to install the base system"
[18:17] <mvensky> does anyone know how to have an account autologin or just bypass login altogether for a host?
[18:17] <thc> Is there workaround or way to fix it
[18:17] <k1l> mvensky: there is a autologin setting for lightdm
[18:18] <mvensky> k1l: cool let me check into it
[18:19] <k1l> mvensky: system settings: users
[18:19] <MonkeyDust> mvensky  system settings > users accounts
[18:24] <mvensky> MonkeyDust: found the setting you referred to, I still get a password prompt
[18:24] <k1l> mvensky: what ubuntu is it?
[18:26] <mvensky> 14.04
[18:26] <k1l> with unity?
[18:27] <Guest71647> Having issue with ltsp build image for Raspberry Pi  Keep geeting FBIOBLANK error think it has something to do with X11 Session manager not loading correclty?
[18:28] <thc> Yeah
[18:29] <thc> Ubuntu desktop 14.04 lts having problems with "debootstrap program exited with an error" "Check /var/log or see virtual console #3" "failed to install the base system"
[18:35] <thc> anyone?
[18:36] <ViBot1> ViBot1, welcome to channel #ubuntu. Try following commands: !Say, !Weather, !Joke, !Ip, !Imdb, !Poke, !Join, !Part, !Timeout, !Quit, !Restart
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[18:36] <Mip> Hi - getting super slow “reading package list” speeds after upgrading from 12.04.5 (3.2 kernel) to 14.04.1. I get this during apt-get update and while trying to build new thin client. System has 2 quadcore processors, 24 gigs of memory, using software raid 1 on 2 disks (/ and /home on separate partitions). I had a similar issue when I was running the 3.5 kernel, but the issue went away when I went back to the 3.2 kernel. Thoughts? Results of iostat here:
[18:36] <Mip> http://pastebin.com/v1vCsf6r
[18:37] <ViCe95> ViBot1:
[18:37] <rww> ViCe95: No unauthorized bots in #ubuntu, please.
[18:37] <qjqqyy> !part
[18:38] <ViCe95> ok,sorry.
[18:38] <rodd> are the commands of an active session stored in .bash_history real time?
[18:39] <thc> I have the following error "debootstrap program exited with an error" "Check /var/log or see virtual console #3" "failed to install the base system"
[18:45] <jazzed> Noob here to advanced operating systems. Does anyone have an informed opinion about using systemd on ubuntu 14.04 for a production product? Avoid it now? :)
[18:45] <rww> jazzed: There is no supported non-testing systemd implementation for 14.04.
[18:46] <rww> so no, you should not use it in production on 14.04
[18:46] <Doomray2000> should i just keep those logs for this account, please check your email
[18:47] <bazhang> !1984 | Doomray2000
[18:47] <Doomray2000> bazhang
[18:47] <bazhang> Doomray2000, disable that script
[18:53] <Guest51484> !exit
[18:53] <Guest51484> !quit
[18:53] <Guest51484> exit
[18:53] <Guest51484> quit
[18:53] <Guest51484> bye
[18:54] <Neozonz|Disc> lol
[18:54] <Neozonz|Disc> guess he got it right that time
[18:54] <daftykins> nope, just closed the page
[18:54] <daftykins> ;)
[18:54] <Neozonz|Disc> Anyone know any good web dashboards to manage ldap?
[19:00] <jost> Hi... when uploading data, my internet connection is maxed out. That's fine in principle, but DNS requests don't get send out, so I can't really do anything while the upload is running. It seems like a priority in the networking settings that is wrong - how would I fix that?
[19:01] <jost> If the DNS result has been cached, everything works fine (a bit slower of course, but it works)
[19:01] <daftykins> jost: you'd ask again in ##networking
[19:02] <mvensky> k1l: thanks the LightDM hint turned the trick
[19:04] <Lord-Harlot> Hey, I've just installed ubuntu 10.04 on a fairly old laptop and the login screen has the wrong resolution, 1920x1080 but the laptops resolution is 1024x768. When I've logged in to the desktop the resolution gets set as 1024x768
[19:04] <Doomray2000> logged into my steam account yesterday
[19:04] <Lord-Harlot> but it's a bit annoying as the login box is pretty much off the screen
[19:05] <|Lord_Zoo|> quit
[19:05] <dididodo> hi... what tool can you recommend for converting a .swf video file to  .mp4 or .avi?
[19:05] <Doomray2000> blend file
[19:05] <MonkeyDust> Lord-Harlot  I had that too, move the mouse to the "off screen", click and drazg to your screen
[19:06] <Shoozza> hey where can i find a list of all tools installed on a fresh ubuntu 14.04 desktop install. I'm looking for the default screen record tool which records to webm i think it was called eidete but i cannot find it anywhere
[19:06] <Lord-Harlot> Is there anyway to set it so it starts up as the correct resolution?
[19:06] <Doomray2000> screwing up please check your email address look correct?
[19:07] <MonkeyDust> Lord-Harlot  I didnt find a resolution, it forced me back to 12.04
[19:07] <Lord-Harlot> hmm
[19:08] <MonkeyDust> dididodo  try winff
[19:08] <Doomray2000> i try and install linux
[19:08] <Lord-Harlot> Nothing in the login screen settings :(
[19:09] <naturally> what do i do if my network driver keeps turning on and off in 14.04?
[19:09] <dididodo> MonkeyDust ... ok, thanks ... i already tried ffmpeg and avconv ... you think winff will  make a difference?
[19:09] <MonkeyDust> dididodo  winff is a gui for ffmpeg/avconv
[19:10] <cynicallemon> winff is basically a frontend to ffmpeg
[19:10] <Doomray2000> just move on their way for us to take effect?
[19:10] <dididodo> MonkeyDust ... i see
[19:10] <Doomray2000> we see your input into this channel are you in turkish
[19:11] <dididodo> MonkeyDust ... ffmpeg didnt work .. at least with the settings i used
[19:11] <MonkeyDust> !who | Doomray2000
[19:11] <Doomray2000> the settings i used
[19:12] <chrisss123456> hey guys, im having some major conky issues
[19:12] <chrisss123456> can anyone help out?
[19:13] <andreb> guys a quick question : I had setup split dns for my email zimbra install... i was wondering how hard it is to move from a split dns setup to a full dns setup ?
[19:20] <loudMouth> can someone help me with a terminal problem?
[19:20] <MonkeyDust> loudMouth  start with a question
[19:21] <cimmm> Can anyone help with triple-head? Using 2nd gen Core i5 + nvidia gtx560Ti. Nvidia X settings no longer lets me check NVidia box, since changing primary adapter to onboard and back.
[19:21] <Doomray2000> + registered users arent going to meet them tomorrow afternoon, see what we need
[19:21] <cynicallemon> terminal probblem... sounds bad
[19:22] <sherbao> ahh it's a wonderful day
[19:22] <Guest65792> upgrade
[19:23] <Doomray2000> to upgrade the disk space on a separate thread, its likely you get email?
[19:23] <martyp> 12:45:32 PM) martyp: short form.  device driver writer and instructor from back in the day.  way way back, when GUI described brownie mix.  Most of what i know about unix no longer applies.  not even sure how to start to diagnose my problem.  i have two desktops, both loaded with 14.04, both completely updated.  first machine is 64 bit, works perfectly. second is 32 bit, and is strangely lacking in at least http access. ie, no bro
[19:23] <MonkeyDust> Doomray2000  are you a bot? who is the president of the united states?
[19:23] <loudMouth> My terminal I cannot cut/paste and no main menu with a white blinking cursor. How do I get the terminal to accept cut/paste?
[19:24] <martyp> bush
[19:24] <martyp> the guy we got now aint no president
[19:24] <cynicallemon> loudMouth: what terminal are you using? urxvt?
[19:25] <loudMouth> the one that comes with ubuntu studio Terminal Emulator.
[19:26] <headkase> loudMouth, select text outside of the terminal: right-click, copy.  Select text in the terminal: hold left click and drag to highlight.  Paste text in terminal for both: middle click in terminal.
[19:26] <MonkeyDust> loudMouth  try shift-insert to paste
[19:29] <loudMouth> No good. terminal does not accept any input from mouse actions. I have 3 other computers in this office running same OS and their terminal looks way different including a blinking GREEN cursor. It's as though T am a user with no privlidges.
[19:29] <Doomray2000> any other language, so youre saving shit loads now then?
[19:32] <loudMouth> Will not accept keystroke input to the terminal either
[19:32] <Doomray2000> your input into this channel
[19:32] <thc> I have question
[19:32] <thc> "debootstrap program exited with an error" "Check /var/log or see virtual console #3" "failed to install the base system"
[19:32] <thc> How do I fix it
[19:33] <gebbione> hi all
[19:33] <Laban> I'm trying to launch my Xen VM with xl create testz.cfg, but I get some odd lines of errors that doesn't give me much to work with. Can anyone assist? http://pastebin.com/SMGBpt0F
[19:33] <Doomray2000> to give up
[19:36] <cynicallemon> thc: not much use unless we know the actual error or the debootstrap command youre trying to execute
[19:36] <loudMouth> The only thing I can do in the terminal is to type. All other aspects of the OS work as expected.
[19:36] <schoppenhauer> hello. I just installed kubuntu 14.04, and copied my .thunderbird-folder to the new home folder, but thunderbird appears to ignore this folder and starts with an empty profile
[19:36] <thc> It gets to base installation on NetBoot and it fails
[19:37] <MonkeyDust> loudMouth  is it gnome-terminal or some other terminal?
[19:38] <thc> I'm new to Ubuntu
[19:38] <loudMouth> It is xfce4-terminal 0.6.3
[19:38] <Doomray2000> lol loudMouth is a beta male
[19:38] <MonkeyDust> Doomray2000  if you are not a bot, drop the random comments
[19:38] <Doomray2000> a drop
[19:39] <MonkeyDust> !ops Doomray2000 is a bot
[19:39] <Doomray2000> nope, ops are staff
[19:39] <dakd> is there a way to change the color format from limited rgb to full on intel hd graphics
[19:39] <cynicallemon> schoppenhauer: you need to alter the profile setting to match the copied profile
[19:40] <schoppenhauer> cynicallemon: how?
[19:41] <schoppenhauer> cynicallemon: where else than in .thunderbird are profile-settings?
[19:41] <MonkeyDust> schoppenhauer  maybe in ~/.mozilla/
[19:42] <schoppenhauer> MonkeyDust: no.
[19:42] <cynicallemon> schoppenhauer: what i normally do is i rename my copied folder to the default one thats created by tbird
[19:43] <cynicallemon> schoppenhauer: or update the profile.ini file to point to your copied folder
[19:44] <schoppenhauer> cynicallemon: that doesn't help. it is just ignored.
[19:45] <schoppenhauer> cynicallemon: doesn't help. it is still ignored.
[19:45] <chrisss123456> anyone have experience with synclient misbehaving? i want to disable the tap and drag feature, and i did (set TapAndDragGesture=off) but it still does the action, albeit for a very short time. Any thoughts?
[19:45] <cemotyz09> !ubottu |off-topic
[19:47] <cynicallemon> schoppenhauer: did you copy the whole tbird folder or just the profile folder inside it?
[19:51] <headkase> Not much going on, guess I'll come back later.  Cheers.
[19:51] <Beldar> schoppenhauer, Did you make sure there was no .thunderbird file there when transfered, you don't merger but replace.
[19:51] <schoppenhauer> Beldar: yes
[19:51] <schoppenhauer> thunderbird wasnt even installed then
[19:51] <Beldar> schoppenhauer, What OS is this?
[19:51] <MonkeyDust> schoppenhauer  what's the output of    cat /etc/issue
[19:51] <schoppenhauer> MonkeyDust: Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[19:52] <guardianpwr08> hello, i am working on making sure rsync is working properly... is this exclude file correct?  should i add anything else to be exlcuded? http://i.imgur.com/g98B2qe.png
[19:52] <wrongplace> when will 14.10 be released?
[19:53] <kubuntu_> the font rendering on ubuntu looks more like the one in OS X than in another linux distribution
[19:53] <kubuntu_> or its just me
[19:54] <wrongplace> can you help with this one? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2241973&p=13111032#post13111032
[19:55] <Laban> guardianpwr08: Do you want logs to be included?
[19:55] <BluesKaj> wrongplace, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/ReleaseSchedule
[19:56] <cynicallemon> Beldar, you can merge a tbird profile folder if you wish, you just need to update profiles.ini to point it to the copied profile folder
[19:57] <schoppenhauer> cynicallemon: the whole folder.
[19:58] <guardianpwr08> Laban: probably no
[19:58] <Beldar> cynicallemon, never bothered the file should do do it.
[19:59] <schoppenhauer> ok ... permission fail.
[19:59] <schoppenhauer> it works nos.
[19:59] <schoppenhauer> now
[19:59] <cynicallemon> schoppenhauer: good :)
[19:59] <schoppenhauer> thx.
[20:01] <kubuntu_> damn
[20:01] <kubuntu_> I come from slackware and ubuntu kde feels like its way faster
[20:03] <GREG_> Hey, I've got a 250GB SSD. I have no intention of using more than 50GB. The laptop is not a powerhouse. How large should I make my SWAP partition?
[20:03] <kubuntu_> the size of your physical ram if you have more than 4GB
[20:03] <kubuntu_> that or more
[20:04] <bprompt> GREG_:   how much ram do you have? how much do you usually use?
[20:04] <BluesKaj> kubuntu_, we kubuntu users feel the same way
[20:04] <cynicallemon> GREG_: 2x RAM size but if you have a grunty setup then maybe no swap
[20:05] <GREG_> I think she's got 4GBs. If I'm not doing anything intense on it, will giving it something like a 50GB swap make any difference over a 4GB or 8GB SWAP?
[20:05] <kubuntu_> nooo
[20:05] <kubuntu_> thats crazy
[20:06] <cynicallemon> GREG_: generally 2x RAM is plenty
[20:06] <versigtig> Hello~
[20:06] <GREG_> Okay, Thanks all! See yah.
[20:07] <aum> hi folks - I've got a Brother MFC-260C scanner; ubuntu (x64) detects it with sane-find-scanner, but nothing I do makes it detectable with scanimage -L or xsane or anything else
[20:07] <thc> Is there way around installing base installation from NetBoot
[20:07] <aum> it used to work fine with earlier versions of ubuntu
[20:08] <versigtig> So I have been trying to get sound working on my Alienware with an Ubuntu 14.04 minimal install and have tried everything I've found at this point and can't figure it out. It should be working based on the information I'm getting but it just isn't. Anyone want to help me out?
[20:08] <ikonia> versigtig: first question is why are you using a minimal support ?
[20:08] <ikonia> as in minimal install
[20:09] <shoerain> my friend has a problem booting into ubuntu after a recent apt-get update. He's got a Thinkpad X1 Carbon. Anyone have any thoughts on how to diagnose his problem? I don't think it's a kernel issue as we've tried booting from an older kernel
[20:09] <Beldar> aum, simple scan is the basic scanner app
[20:09] <versigtig> ikonia: Oh, because I don't like all the extra programs Ubuntu installs with.
[20:09] <versigtig> I like knowing what packages are on my computer and what is installed.
[20:09] <ikonia> versigtig: I suggest you see if you can use a normal install to prove this works/doesn't work
[20:09] <ikonia> versigtig: then remove anything you don't need
[20:10] <versigtig> The Ubuntu full install has a Live CD version, right?
[20:10] <versigtig> Or you can run a live version off the CD.
[20:10] <ikonia> versigtig: I'm not suggesting you check it with a livecd
[20:10] <versigtig> I know.
[20:10] <ikonia> versigtig: I'm suggesting you verify this with a full install
[20:10] <leofseige> Hi.  where's debconf-get-selections with 14.04?  Trying to make a minimal package list for a preseed.
[20:10] <versigtig> Ack, okay.
[20:10] <versigtig> I might keep trying to figure it out, I've got it pretty well setup how I like with i3 and my other stuff.
[20:11] <aum> Beldar, simple scan doesn't work either, says 'no scanners detected'
[20:11] <TJ-> leofseige: "dpkg --get-selections" or you might get better results using "debfoster --show-keepers"
[20:11] <versigtig> Sorry, I normally use Arch but I wanted a less bleeding edge distro to run on an Alienware as it is so old and shitty that it took me forever to get working properly with a Windows 7 install.
[20:11] <thc> On Ubuntu NetBoot is best way to boot up I get to base installation then it fails
[20:12] <rberg_> leofseige: debconf-utils
[20:12] <Beldar> aum, 14.04?
[20:12] <kubuntu_> uh all that I know is that brother multifunction needs/only works with vendor drivers
[20:13] <aum> Beldar, actually, now on Debian Unstable
[20:13] <squinty> shoerain,  apt-get update shouldn't cause a booting problem, afaik,    apt-get upgrade (or more likely   apt-get dist-upgrade) can potentially cause problems.  I suspect (because of your comment about "previous kernel") your friend did a dist-upgrade.  if he did uninstall the new kernel
[20:14] <Beldar> aum, So your looking for debian support here?
[20:14] <thc> I wonder if I put hard drive in another pc then put the hd back in and boot up
[20:15] <aum> Beldar, yes, because the codebase is very similar, but Ubuntu people are usually more supportive and less dismissive and obnoxious than debian folks
[20:15] <leofseige> TJ-: rberg_: thanks
[20:15] <jpedroza2k_> Here is the issue I am having: I have a Lenovo laptop with Optimus graphics (GK107GLM [Quadro K1000M]) connected to 3 external displays through a dock. All the screens are working correctly, but they are being treated as one large display instead of 4 separate displays. If I change the xorg.conf file and assign each display to a separate X display and restart X, something overwrites xorg.conf and I lose all my changes.
[20:16] <Beldar> aum, Wrong channel this is ubuntu support, please don't waste or time with this, not supported.
[20:16] <thc> Is it possible to install Ubuntu from mini.iso through command line?
[20:17] <jpedroza2k_> Beldar, who was that message to?
[20:17] <dn4> what is the defaul password for  a 14.04 livecd
[20:17] <LjL-Laplet_> there is no password
[20:17] <jpedroza2k_> dn4, I think it is a blank password
[20:17] <Beldar> jpedroza2k_, To a user now gone.
[20:17] <jpedroza2k_> Beldar, thanks, thought you might mean me. :)
[20:18] <dn4> jpedroza2k_: that isn't it
[20:19] <jpedroza2k_> dn4, there is no password set on the live images
[20:20] <kubuntu_> if theres not then It cant log in with an empty password
[20:21] <cimmm> Any guidance for NVidia+intel triple-head on 14.04x64? Stuck on intel-only single screen and no nvidia config panel
[20:21] <jpedroza2k_> that are you trying to do. your question was what the password is.
[20:21] <jpedroza2k_> What*
[20:22] <kubuntu_> maybe he logged out or locked session and cant get back in
[20:22] <jpedroza2k_> cimmm, I am doing the same thing now. You need the nvidia-driver and nvidia-prime with bumblebee to make it work
[20:23] <jpedroza2k_> cimmm, I am using nvidia 331
[20:24] <jpedroza2k_> cimmm, I think prime is a dependency for the 331 drivers.
[20:24] <cimmm> I have 331 and jpedroza2k_ It says bumblebee is for hybrid-graphics on laptops, and yes prime was dep for 331
[20:25] <netameta> How can i find out what listening on port 80 for me ? i have a basic ubuntu 13 installation with nginx and php
[20:25] <cimmm> jpedroza2k_ is bumble still where I'm looking for dual-head on desktop card plus onboard?
[20:26] <headkase> netameta, if you expect a web-server there in the URL bar of your browser put: <IP_ADDRESS>:80 to connect to it.
[20:26] <najjar>  <netameta> sudo netstat -plnt
[20:27] <netameta> najjar,headkase thanks
[20:27] <netameta> seems nginx listening on 80- is 80/8000 same ?
[20:28] <headkase> netameta, 80 is the official web-server port for HTTP.  Some people use 8080 for their testing web-server port.
[20:29] <netameta> weird that nginx listens to 80 although i cant see anywhere in the config that it does
 you're welcome, I have no idea about 'nginx'
[20:29] <headkase> netameta, if you omit the port in a web browsers URL bar then the web browser will try port 80.  A URL for a different port has to be specified by the user manuall, like "http://www.google.com:8080"
[20:29] <headkase> *manually
[20:30] <jpedroza2k_> cimmm, You shouldn't need bumblebee unless it is considered an Optimus chipset. You will want to make sure you are not an Optimus.
[20:30] <jpedroza2k_> Otherwise it should work.
[20:30] <netameta> headkase yea i know mate, i am trying to have node js server listening on port 80 but each time i try listening it says it already listen but i think i figured why
[20:30] <versigtig> Huh, just a odd problem I thought ya'll might find noteworthy: I get sound through headphones when I have them plugged in but sound just won't come out of the laptop speakers. Ah well, good enough, haha. :D
[20:31] <headkase> netameta, either another service got to that port first or nginx is already starting in a different way than you are trying to start it?
[20:32] <netameta> headkase, well nginx is listening to it, i dont know why, however what i will do is listen to another port and rout it from nginx, so basically when normal url is used (at port 80) it will be routed to 800 or something
[20:33] <headkase> netameta, when you installed nginx it might have had a installation script in the package that set up the basics and enabled it as a service for you.  I would suggest putting your node.js content within nginx's http serv location?
[20:34] <netameta> headkase, yea
[20:36] <cimmm> jpedroza2k_ I don't believe I'm optimus. It's GTX560Ti. I'm just stuck here with no output to the GTX and only my intel. I previously had dual-head + idle intel before I changed BIOS adapter priority. Since I changed to onboard primary It's only displayed on my intel, even after switching primary back to PCIe
[20:38] <headkase> cimmm, one thing that bit me once is that in my BIOS I had my graphics order set to "iGPU Only" (built-in intel) and then my PCIe card would not give me a signal.  I had to hook back up to the intel port to get a screen to go into the BIOS to change that value so it was set to PCIe.
[20:38] <headkase> cimmm, and in my BIOS at least you can have both iGPU and PCIe enabled at the same time of course, it was just that I had it set to iGPU only.
[20:39] <Nokai> hello
[20:39] <cimmm> headkase, my BIOS has "iGPU multi-monitor support" which has always been on
[20:40] <headkase> cimmm, Have you tried other options there?  Like an option that explicitly states both iGPU and PCIe?
[20:41] <cimmm> heakase, no, I can turn off multi-monitor display and it will turn off my iGPU when using dGPU and vice-versa, but only other selection is primary GPU [PCI, PCIe, iGPU]
[20:41] <headkase> cimmm, "iGPU multi-monitor" to me says on the iGPU that one card can use multiple outputs.
[20:42] <headkase> cimmm, while PCIe would not necessarily be enabled..
[20:43] <headkase> cimmm, if the card not working is PCIe try that in your BIOS.  Only if it is PCIe though so you don't get left with no screen.
[20:43] <andygraybeal> what are your opinions on a distro for a slow computer (ubuntu based) ?
[20:43] <TJ-> andygraybeal: Lubuntu, Xubuntu are popular choices
[20:44] <cimmm> headkase, I'm currently PCIe primary, POST and GRUB go to DVI from PCIe then drops out to my intel at lightdm login screen, PCIe -> DVI goes blank but active after that
[20:44] <kubuntu_> I think that a 'slow' computer wont even handle firefox
[20:44] <andygraybeal> TJ-, do you have any personal thoughts about them?
[20:45] <TJ-> cimmm: Have you moved any saved "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" out the way so the system can auto-configure. If that file was written when the iGPU was primary, then that would explain your symptoms
[20:45] <TJ-> andygraybeal: In what way?
[20:45] <headkase> cimmm, You have output from your PCIe card until X (lightdm) starts?  If so, sounds like it's an X.Org issue instead of the hardware issue I was assuming.
[20:45] <andygraybeal> TJ-, i'm not sure.. if you prefer one over the other
[20:46] <Timoty> Hey, what's cimmm problem's?
[20:46] <cimmm> TJ-, no should I be backing up my xorg.conf before doing an X -configure?
[20:46] <kubuntu_> I liked more lubuntu that xubuntu
[20:46] <kubuntu_> well if you know what xfce is like and want to try something different
[20:46] <TJ-> cimmm: I'd recommend renaming any current xorg.conf and letting the system auto-configure itself
[20:47] <cimmm> relogging to chan from tablet so i can stop x and not miss a beat
[20:47] <TJ-> cimmm: if you've got an existing config, let us see it: "pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[20:47] <headkase> cimmm, when you rename the files make sure they don't end in ".conf" instead end in ".conf.bak" if a file ends in ".conf" X will still try to parse it.
[20:47] <hichris123> Hi, I'm having problems compiling clang but I think it's mainly just a problem with my system.
[20:47] <hichris123> I'm getting " error:       use of undeclared identifier '__NR_rename'"
[20:47] <hichris123> Does anyone know how I might investigate this?
[20:49] <TJ-> hichris123: You're probably missing build dependencies in the form of -devel header files that declared "__NR_rename"
[20:49] <hichris123> TJ-: It looks like this is a system call, defined in asm.
[20:50] <TJ-> hichris123: I suspect that is the linux kernel headers, since it is defined in "include/asm-generic/audit_dir_write.h"
[20:50] <bish0p_> Hi, I'm having unity issues now that I've switched to 14.04, is there anyone that can help me?
[20:50] <hichris123> TJ-: Sooo... that's strange. What do you suggest doing? Reinstalling the kernal?
[20:51] <TJ-> hichris123: No, just ensure the kernel headers are installed for the currently running kernel
[20:51] <TJ-> hichris123: And check where the source-code's configure script thinks it should be found
[20:52] <cimmm> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8293485/
[20:52] <opex_> тоска
[20:52] <k1l> !ru | opex_
[20:53] <headkase> cimmm, that .conf only loads the intel driver and a modesetting driver - which you probably don't want.  Modesetting driver is slooow.
[20:53] <hichris123> TJ-: The header files are installed. How would I check where the script expects it to be vs. where it actually is?
[20:53] <opex_> ok
[20:54] <cimmm> Either way it has at least one monitor per card (nvidia is the 1:0.0) so that should be nvidia, but if modesetting does work in some manner, why arent my other monitors detected?
[20:54] <TJ-> cimmm: Right, so the iGPU is Intel on X Screen 0, and the 2nd device has unknown device at PCI 1:0:0, which is presumably the Nvidia device. As I said, rename that file so the system can autoconfigure when the X server starts, then look at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[20:54] <TIM___> Hey, so you've got a script. And you don't want to run ./file in a terminal every time you use it ... I don't remember how to make it a link. Can anyone help me out?
[20:54] <headkase> cimmm, listen to TJ-
[20:55] <cimmm> TJ-, ok thx I'm doing it now
[20:56] <TJ-> hichris123: If using an autoconf project, then "./configure" should have created a "config.log" and "config.h" that would help
[20:56] <bish0p_> I recently updated to 14.04, and now Unity isn't rendering any toolbars.
[20:57] <k1l> bish0p_: make sure the video drivers work for 3d
[20:58] <bish0p_> How can I check that? I'm kind of new to linux.
[20:58] <hichris123> TJ-: Yup, there's a config.log in there.
[20:58] <k1l> bish0p_: what video card is it and what driver is installed?
[20:59] <bish0p_> k1l, I'll check.
[20:59] <k1l> "lspci -v -s `lspci | awk '/VGA/{print $1}'`" into a pastebin
[21:00] <hichris123> TJ-: What should I be looking for?
[21:02] <TJ-> hichris123: That's the hardest question to answer! My usual answer is "anything that looks suspicious" and "anything related to locating required headers/libraries" - configure is responsible for finding them... it usually generates a summary of what was found/enabled/disabled at the end of the log
[21:02] <bish0p_> k1l, http://pastebin.com/PqL8NcKd
[21:03] <streulma> Ubuntu resolution at 2560x1600 px is to small. Is the best solution to scale with Xrandr or change resolution?
[21:03] <k1l> bish0p_: so you only got the intel cpu one (which should work ootb)
[21:03] <mykrobinson76> evening all
[21:04] <mykrobinson76> Running 14.04 on a Toshiba laptop. I can control the screen brightness with the slider with no trouble, no hacks needed. however, making it work with the hotkeys varies from one boot to the next. Ideas?
[21:05] <streulma> Is ASUS good for Ubuntu?
[21:05] <Timoty> <img src="apples.jpeg">
[21:05] <Timoty> error
[21:05] <bish0p_> k1l, yeah, if I restart lightdm from the terminal, they come up, but it doesn't stay when I power down.
[21:05] <bish0p_> k1l, normally this wouldn't be a problem, just leave the box on, but it's a laptop that gets moved around a lot
[21:05] <k1l> bish0p_: so guest account works?
[21:05] <eeee> Timoty: ? what's with that?
[21:06] <bish0p_> k1l, i uh, actually haven't tried that.
[21:06] <bish0p_> i'll go check that now
[21:06] <k1l> bish0p_: see logs what error that is. like .xsession-errors in home or dmesg in /var/log
[21:06] <hichris123> TJ-: Hmm, okay. I see output variables...
[21:07] <cimmm> Im back, failed again, this time I have errors of nvidia module does not exist, [drm] KMS is not enabled,  screen1 deleted no matching config section, and a ton of FBDEV(1): FBIOPUTCMAP: Device or resource busy.  if anybody wanted to look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/8293554/
[21:07] <streulma> is there ever a solution for running Unity on HiDPI screens like Retina?
[21:08] <Busserl> 640 pixel ought to be enough for everybody
[21:09] <k1l> streulma: afaik that should work
[21:09] <streulma> well, it's pixelated... k1l
[21:09] <hichris123> TJ-: Nothing stands out as strange to me...
[21:10] <guesterDave> I have an on board wifi card on my computer, how can I find out which device under /dev/ represents that wifi device?
[21:11] <pl0xz0rz> wasssp my peeps
[21:12] <hichris123> TJ-: Okay, this is interesting. I did  vim /usr/include/asm/audit_dir_write.h -- no file exists with that name.
[21:12] <TJ-> guesterDave: none; network devices don't get listed there. If you're looking for the Ethernet device name use "ifconfig -a"
[21:12] <pl0xz0rz> i r gay kek
[21:13] <ikonia> pl0xz0rz: please don't
[21:13] <ikonia> pl0xz0rz: this channel is for ubuntu support
[21:13] <ikonia> stick to that topic
[21:13] <pl0xz0rz> My fault
[21:13] <ikonia> no problem
[21:13] <Busserl> TJ-: wouldn't 'ip link' show all, and ifconfig would just show those from /etc/network/interfaces?
[21:14] <TJ-> hichris123: "/usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r`/include/asm-generic/audit_dir_write.h"
[21:14] <mattxtn> gpart
[21:14] <mattxtn> sry wrong window
[21:14] <TJ-> Busserl: No, ifconfig is the predecessor to iproute2 (which is where ip link comes from). Debian's ifupdown is responsible for "/etc/network/interfaces"
[21:14] <hichris123> TJ-: -bash: /usr/src/linux-headers-3.13.0-35-generic/include/asm-generic/audit_dir_write.h: Permission denied. The file exists though.
[21:15] <Busserl> TJ-: thank you
[21:15] <TJ-> hichris123: OK, that's because you're trying to edit it... use "vim -R ..." or "less"
[21:17] <TJ-> hichris123: So now you can do two things. 1) look in the source file that is trying to include that file and see what path is in the #include. 2) look at all the -I<include-path> entries passed to the compiler and figure out if the path to that header file can be built from those -I prefix paths
[21:18] <k1l> streulma: where is your issue with retina displays?
[21:18] <TJ-> hichris123: Also, in the target included file ensure that any #ifdef's surrounding the definition will be TRUE, otherwise the file might be included but the definition omitted
[21:21] <k1l> streulma: http://askubuntu.com/a/472266/31260
[21:23] <mzfd12> i needs some help
[21:25] <mattxtn> Is there a way to have a cpu/swap montor on the top panel of unity?
[21:25] <MonkeyDust> mattxtn  psensors
[21:25] <cimmm> If anyone could help me out, Xorg.0.log errors: nvidia module does not exist, [drm] KMS is not enabled,  screen1 deleted no matching config section, and a ton of FBDEV(1): FBIOPUTCMAP: Device or resource busy. http://paste.ubuntu.com/8293554/ thats after I renamed Xorg.conf from previous paste and gave full system restart - double checked BIOS settings just in case
[21:25] <mattxtn> Thank you MonkeyDust.
[21:26] <Timoty> cimmm did you modify the original xorg.conf file ?
[21:26] <Timoty> you can just regenerate a xorg.conf file
[21:27] <netameta_> anyone familiar with ec2/aws or knows of a channel related to those ?
[21:27] <MonkeyDust> mattxtn  i guess what i suggested is not what you want, apologies
[21:27] <Timoty> # nvidia-xconfig
[21:27] <TJ-> cimmm: OK, so need to load or build or both the DKMS nvidia module
[21:28] <mattxtn> MonkeyDust, I just kind of figured that out.
[21:28] <netameta_> Do i get only 1 public DNS per account, or every instanse i make should have a dns as the way i have it now i only got 1 dns and i have 3 servers up
[21:28] <bish0p_> k1l, I can switch to it with a little bit of a wait, but I cannot go back without restarting
[21:28] <TJ-> cimmm: Also "KMS is not enabled" suggest the system may be booting with "nomodeset" - check that using "cat /proc/cmdline"
[21:28] <MonkeyDust> netameta_  if you don't get answer here, try #ubuntu-server
[21:30] <cimmm> TJ- options ro quiet splash
[21:32] <TJ-> cimmm: OK, so no "nomodeset". So, the first thing to do is find out which nvidia driver is installed: "dms status"
[21:32] <TJ-> cimmm: My typo! "dkms status"
[21:33] <cimmm> bbswitch, 0.7, 3.13.0-35-generic, x86_64: installed , nvidia-331, 331.38, 3.13.0-35-generic, x86_64: installed , virtualbox, 4.3.10, 3.13.0-35-generic, x86_64: installed
[21:33] <cimmm> , virtualbox-guest, 4.3.10, 3.13.0-35-generic, x86_64: installed
[21:35] <TJ-> cimmm: Good, so now lets see what is loaded into the kernel: "lsmod | grep nvidia"
[21:35] <bish0p_> k1l, would going back to my previous version fix it? I don
[21:36] <cimmm> TJ- nothin
[21:36] <bish0p_> *I don't mind doing that.
[21:36] <k1l> bish0p_: see the logs as explained above
[21:37] <TJ-> cimmm: OK, so the module failed to load or wasn't attempted for some reason. Let's find out: "pastebinit < <(lspci -nnk && cat /var/log/dmesg)"
[21:37] <bish0p_> k1l, sorry, didn't see that.
[21:37] <k1l> bish0p_: see logs what error that is. like .xsession-errors in home or dmesg in /var/log
[21:38] <cimmm> TJ- http://paste.ubuntu.com/8293756/
[21:39] <bish0p_> k1l, should I just throw dmesg into a pastebin?
[21:40] <k1l> bish0p_: yes. and the .xsessions-errors from the home
[21:40] <bish0p_> alright
[21:42] <TJ-> cimmm: Well, nvidia 331.38 supports the "GeForce GTX 560 Ti" so you don't need a later driver version
[21:42] <TJ-> cimmm: Try inserting the module manually: "sudo modprobe nvidia-331"
[21:42] <bish0p_> xsessions: http://pastebin.com/ywTWRhWv    dmesg: http://pastebin.com/6HGfjjfx
[21:44] <cimmm> TJ- lsmod showing nvidia as called by drm
[21:45] <cimmm> TJ- * nvidia as its own mod and called by drm
[21:47] <TJ-> cimmm: OK, so it is now loaded. Now try restarting the X server with "sudo service lightdm restart"
[21:50] <langlee>  -
[21:55] <k1l> bish0p_: try to delete the .XAuthority file in /home
[21:58] <cimmm> TJ- ok lightdm failed to restart, when started from tty1 manually i got stuck in a bad config loop
[21:59] <TJ-> cimmm: ouch.
[22:00] <TJ-> cimmm: was there a new "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" generated though? That'll capture any errors
[22:00] <cimmm> checking
[22:02] <cimmm> TJ- http://paste.ubuntu.com/8293881/ looks the same as last time
[22:04] <TJ-> cimmm: There's something up with the nvidia X org driver install: "(EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)"
[22:06] <TJ-> cimmm: Try doing "sudo apt-get --reinstall install nvidia-331" then a system reboot
[22:06] <cimmm> TJ- weird it was only an issue after primary display adapter =/
[22:07] <TJ-> cimmm: Could the BIOS/firmware be hiding the device/making it inaccessible, in some wy?
[22:09] <cimmm> TJ- I've only had experience playing with BIOS features in windows, and the only gpu options that made a real difference were primary adapter (POST and loading screen/login), and multi-monitor (turned off dGPU when iGPU is primary and vice-versa)
[22:09] <cimmm> TJ- have reinstalled, brb
[22:09] <TJ-> cimmm: what's the make/model of the motherboard/system ?
[22:11] <cimmm> TJ- ASRock z68 pro3/gen3 http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z68%20Pro3%20Gen3/
[22:11] <TJ-> cimmm: OK, found it in dmesg: "Z68 Extreme3"
[22:11] <cimmm> TJ- sry extreme not pro
[22:12] <TJ-> cimmm: OK, reading its manual
[22:15] <cimmm> TJ- "If you do not adjust the UEFI setup, the default value of “Onboard VGA      Share Memory”, [Auto], will disable D-Sub function when the add-on VGA card is     inserted to this motherboard." -- Don't remember reading that. I believe my shared memory is set to auto, and the monitor I'm connected to is dsub (vga)
[22:16] <waseemoff> hello room. after switching the ubuntu display language to Arabic and logging in, ubuntu asks if you want to change the standard folders names to the new language. I clicked "don't ask again" and now I changed my mind and I want these folder names to be in Arabic.  is there an easy way to do so?
[22:17] <cimmm> TJ- which is backward from the issue I'm having, but worth a try... rebooting to bios, this time logging with tablet
[22:17] <TJ-> cimmm: Yes, I've seen that in a lot of firmwares "auto" meaning "disable" when there's a discrete GPU also
[22:18] <TJ-> cimmm: Also check the DVMT settings. I think they may only be useful on Windows systems; not sure if the Linux Intel video drivers use that or not
[22:20] <TJ-> cimmm1:  on Page 10, point 6: "You can choose to use two of the three monitors only. D-Sub, DVI-D and HDMI monitors cannot be enabled at the same time"
[22:21] <cimmm1> TJ- That's specific to the rear ports
[22:21] <TJ-> cimmm1: also, point 15
[22:21] <TJ-> cimmm1: It's specific to the IGP ports on the mobo
[22:22] <anoldhacker> Anyone know about /etc/debconf.conf?
[22:22] <Logan_> !anyone | anoldhacker
[22:23] <Logan_> er
[22:23] <Logan_> !anybody | anoldhacker
[22:23] <cimmm1> TJ- yes. I'm using only the DSub from iGPU, HDMI and DVI from NVidia
[22:23] <teward> anoldhacker, rather than asking "anyone know abuot X" how about you instead ask your actual question
[22:23] <Logan_> well I give up
[22:23] <teward> anoldhacker, also, consider checking the man page: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man5/debconf.conf.5.html
[22:23] <anoldhacker> I came here with the question I have after reading the man page. ;)
[22:23] <Logan_> rww: why was !anyone deleted? :(
[22:24] <teward> anoldhacker, then ask your question istead of asking if anyone knows about the file
[22:24] <anoldhacker> What are the default databases in the first stanza of /etc/debconf.conf?
[22:25] <cimmm1> TJ- no nvidia mods loaded, should I attempt another probe for nvidia and lightdm restart?
[22:25] <cimmm1> TJ- (after reinstall ofc)
[22:27] <TJ-> cimmm1: Do the modprobe then immediately "pastebinit < <(tail -n 200 /var/log/kern.log)" to find out if anything 'interesting' is happening
[22:29] <eeee>  anoldhacker:  Generally, the backend database is located in /var/cache/debconf/
[22:29] <eeee> ( from the debconf manpage )
[22:31] <anoldhacker> That is the directory where the manpage suggests that debconf databases go.  I am looking specifically for the two required databases.
[22:31] <eeee> seems there is a config and template database
[22:31] <cimmm> TJ- http://paste.ubuntu.com/8294100/ some driver errors
[22:32] <anoldhacker> That directory doesn't exist on this system, and yet these stanzas are required.  That suggests that the default location is actually elsewhere.
[22:32] <TJ-> cimmm: That looks good: "[drm] Initialized nvidia-drm 0.0.0 20130102 for 0000:01:00.0 on minor 1"
[22:33] <cimmm> TJ- looks like power state mamgement not anything display
[22:33] <eeee> anoldhacker: maybe find / -iname templates ?
[22:33] <TJ-> anoldhacker: If the debconf directory is missing, then that suggests something has gone bad on the system.
[22:34] <cerouno> is there any software available that allows me to play my steam games on windows and stream the video, audio back to my ubuntu computer
[22:34] <cerouno> both computers are on my lan
[22:34] <popey> cerouno: yes, steam
[22:34] <cimmm> TJ- so if the driver WAS the issue and it's reinstalled, nvidia mod started manually, should I be deleting my xorg.conf and/or going for the X/lightdm restart?
[22:34] <cerouno> popey: i want to play my windows only games on a windows machine and have the video, sound back to me
[22:35] <TJ-> anoldhacker: debconf is used by dpkg and apt for package management
[22:35] <cerouno> e.g. use windows computer from my ubuntu computer
[22:35] <popey> cerouno: yes, steam does that now.
[22:35] <anoldhacker> Installs are working.  I'm trying to replace the DEBIAN_FRONTEND variable with a config entry.
[22:35] <popey> cerouno: http://store.steampowered.com/streaming/
[22:35] <cerouno> popey: how, i see no option in steam
[22:35] <TJ-> cimmm: ensure there is no "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" so that the X server can auto-configure itself, then try starting lightdm.
[22:36] <cerouno> popey: thanks
[22:36] <TJ-> anoldhacker: Do you mean you want "dpkg-reconfigure debconf" ?
[22:38] <anoldhacker> If I can do it without user interaction…
[22:38] <anoldhacker> Not sure that is safe...
[22:39] <cimmm1> TJ- my console doesn't display...
[22:39] <anoldhacker> manpage is suggestive.
[22:40] <cimmm1> TJ- GUI on 7 continues to display, dont know if my console is functioning behind that
[22:41] <anoldhacker> Yeah.  Not at all clear that it will work.  No way to set a specific option.  Tends to fallback to menu-based.
[22:42] <TJ-> anoldhacker: "pastebinit < <(sed -n '/Name: debconf\/frontend/,/^$/ { /utf-8/ d; p}' /var/cache/debconf/templates.dat)" ->  http://paste.ubuntu.com/8294171/
[22:43] <TJ-> cimmm1: Ctrl+Alt+F1 to get back to tty1
[22:43] <cimmm1> TK- Doesn't display, tried a restart as well, still no tty's
[22:44] <TJ-> cimmm1: Hmmm, is the nvidia device working now though?
[22:44] <anoldhacker> There is no /var/cache/debconf directory on this system.
[22:45] <TJ-> anoldhacker: What Ubuntu release is it, and which flavour (server, desktop, netinst) ?
[22:46] <anoldhacker> 14.04.  I assume server.
[22:47] <TJ-> anoldhacker: Is "/var/cache/" a mountpoint? Are there other directories in "/var/cache/" right now?
[22:47] <cimmm1> TJ- lightdm restart... hung (?) solid black screen, no TTY display from Ctrl+Alt+F#
[22:47] <anoldhacker> There are other directories. Checking mtab
[22:48] <Bashing-om> TJ-: anoldhacker " /var/cache/debconf " does exist on my 14.04 desktop - minimal install .
[22:48] <anoldhacker> Not a mount point.  Looking at a more standard system, the directory is present.
[22:49] <TJ-> cimmm1: Something isn't too good with that system, for sure. Long shot, but have you moved the unit or had it open? I'm wondering if there's a physical disconnect issue with the nvidia discrete card. Sometimes that can be caused simply be manipulating the external connectors too forcefully. Right now I'd be taking the side/lid off and ensuring the Nvidia card is firmly in its slot and locked down.
[22:49] <anoldhacker> In fact, so is the /etc/debconf.conf file.
[22:51] <anoldhacker> Maybe a bit of c&p is in order…
[22:51] <TJ-> anoldhacker: debconf is so vital I can't think of a combination of packages that wouldn't install it, so if "/var/cache/debconf" is missing, I'd suspect a file-system corruption issue, possibly that directory is now in /lost+found/ or just got plain lost?
[22:51] <cimmm1> TJ- card is still firm, security locks in place, and very little weight from connectors actually being exerted on the card. I'm still successfully dual-booting triple-headed win8 with dgpu primary, etc. If there's anything I can do from the working system to get this up I'd be glad to
[22:53] <TJ-> anoldhacker: sounds like you may need "debconf-copydb"
[22:53] <anoldhacker> package is there.  I'll c&p as necessary.  thkx
[22:54] <TJ-> cimmm1: OK, so Windows proves it works, so there's something up with the Ubuntu install. Have you tried booting a Desktop Live ISO image and seeing if it works as expected, even though it uses the nouveau driver not nvidia?
[22:56] <cimmm1> TJ- deleted ufd image let me see if I have CD or I'll just go back to w8 for a few
[22:57] <cimmm1> TJ- ok making new live usb
[23:00] <Valarkin_> !Guys, is there a good "Congratgs you have a server installed here's what you need to do next" kinda guide out there?  I know there are things I need to tweak and secure, but I've no idea where to start
[23:01] <TJ-> cimmm1: whatever is going on, I think you're correct to focus on the effect the firmware changes for primary device caused, but its hard to figure out *why* that is still causing an issue, and why the nvidia driver isn't being loaded automatically.
[23:09] <ee99ee> What package should I install for a local-only SMTP relay?
[23:09] <ee99ee> esmtp?
[23:22] <cimmm1> TJ- ubuntu 14.04.1 livecd via USB works without a hitch - all 3 displays via 2 cards working
[23:22] <bish0p_> k1l_, sorry, got pulled away from the computer. I deleted that file. Should I restart?
[23:22] <k1l_> bish0p_: yes
[23:23] <bish0p_> alright I will
[23:24] <cimmm1> TJ- I havent done much else to the system, at this point is it going to be easier to do a reinstall?
[23:27] <bish0p_> k1l_, no change
[23:27] <TJ-> cimmm1: Hmmm, there's no guarantee but if you are able to back-up our documents, settings, saved passwords and credentials for the system and web-sites, then I suppose the brute-force method will do :)
[23:30] <cimmm1> TJ- although I now have my BIOS settings adjusted (manually allocated shared igpu memory), with no plan of switching primary again (!) is there anything else I should do to avoid a repeat?
[23:31] <BIG_BOY> install gentoo
[23:31] <TJ-> cimmm1: Apart from never using the system (!) errr, maybe not generating a custom xorg.conf unless it is really needed
[23:32] <cimmm1> TJ- lol I figured my conf was first stop when screens fell off the face of the world, but thx much for your patience
[23:33] <TJ-> cimmm1: Something weird must have confused the drivers, the key thing is the nvidia driver not auto-loading, which suggested to me the card wasn't identifying correctly, which was what led me to suggest checking its physical fit
[23:34] <TJ-> cimmm1: if that was caused in firmware/software instead, it's hard to know what since you'd expect a manual modprobe to fail if there was a PCI identity issue
[23:35] <TJ-> cimmm1: I suppose it could have been some random corruption of a key file, in which case a reinstall should solve it without having to hunt it down
[23:36] <cimmm1> TJ- that was the weird part, the modprobe had no issues but x restart brought me to broken config loop (couldn't select any options), and the ghosted GUI over tty1 was extra strange
[23:37] <TJ-> cimmm1: If you ever figure out out, please let me know
[23:37] <bulletxt> hi, can I install kernel 3.16 on ubuntu 12.04 with ppa ? Thanks
[23:37] <bulletxt> im asking because I have a bug in official 3.13 so I need a newer one for 12.04
[23:37] <cimmm1> TJ- if I recreate it I'll definitely let you know
[23:38] <TJ-> !mainline | bulletxt: There are Ubuntu mainline kernel builds you can try
[23:38] <bulletxt> yes  but I dont understand if I can install those on 12.04 :S
[23:39] <bulletxt> I don't get if for example I can install 3.16 on 12.04
[23:39] <TJ-> bulletxt: They can be installed on any system; they should integrate with userspace too, since they're built with the standard Ubuntu config
[23:39] <bulletxt> ok
[23:40] <bulletxt> so I should be able to install v3.16.2-utopic on my 12.04
[23:40] <TJ-> bulletxt: sometimes the kernel does need a more recent userspace for changes in say procfs vs sysfs, but Linus requires the kernel not break the ABI
[23:41] <bulletxt> ok, the only way to understand if I can install those debs is to actually install them :)
[23:41] <TJ-> bulletxt: They can all be installed, your question more accurately would be "will they introduce any regressions?"
[23:42] <TJ-> bulletxt: to which the answer is "You'll have to test them to find out" :)
[23:42] <bulletxt> lol yea
[23:42] <bulletxt> well i have some issues with CIFS so i need a newer kernel
[23:42] <bulletxt> ill try latest 3.16
[23:42] <bulletxt> :D
[23:51] <hyperpupp> Hello can anyone help me.  I set up vsftpd and I can access it from local computers no problems but when I try to use it remotely I get error 530 login incorrect.  Has anyone run into this ?
[23:59] <ee99ee> what package should I install for a localhost smtp relay?


[11:04] <Pendulum> TheMuso: I'm looking at that e-mail you forwarded to the accessibility devel list and I'm trying to figure out where he uses "accessibility" the way we use it or if he's just talking about ease of use/ease of finding things
[11:05] <Pendulum> or am I missing something (or do you know something about the poster that I don't)
[11:22] <TheMuso> Pendulum: No, I don't know any more than you do.
[11:22] <TheMuso> Pendulum: I haven't really read the email in detail, but thought that it was more appropriate on the main accessibility list.
[11:28] <Pendulum> mostly I'm confused because he's talking about accessing applications being frustrating, but hasn't mentioned an impairment-related accessibility need
[11:30]  * Pendulum replies to ask for more specifics
[11:57] <skaet> Pendulum,  am wondering if there's been any progress on the desktop-p-accessibility-team-testing blueprint?  also is there anyone other than charlie-tca that can give me a list of the key bugs that are left from oneiric?
[11:58]  * skaet would like to get them on radar for fixing....
[12:06] <Pendulum> skaet: charlie-tca and TheMuso (Luke) are your best bet on the bugs situation
[12:07] <Pendulum> and I have no idea what's going on with the testing blueprint other than my stuff, some of which is in progress (the actual usability testing may get postponed, but I'm in process of learning *how* to do it, for example)
[12:08] <Pendulum> charlie hasn't been around so much so it's been hard to figure out what's happening for testing as he's really the person who coordinates that for us
[12:08] <Pendulum> skaet: we're having a meeting on Wednesday so hopefully I'll know more about things after that
[23:52] <Fudge> hi guys
[23:58] <Fudge> AlanBell  that irc orca python thing sounds fun