[00:00] <mDemocritus> found the solution for my icon quandry... firefox's application icon is located at /usr/share/firefox/icons/default.xpm or /usr/share/firefox/chrome/icons/default/default.xpm, 48x48 xpm image. i changed both, and it works
[00:01] <chris-rc1> dragomir: have you found an input source?
[00:02] <dragomir> yes
[00:02] <dragomir> on the volum control
[00:02] <dragomir> all they are checked
[00:03] <NigelS> dragomir: you mean unchecked I hope
[00:04] <NigelS> since the options along the top are "mute"
[00:04] <dragomir> oh
[00:04] <dragomir> they have to be unchecked?
[00:04] <NigelS> well not unless you want them muted
[00:04] <dragomir> :)
[00:04] <wildbat> anyone knoehow do i use skim in Konversation?
[00:04] <mefisto__> dragomir: can you do: cat /proc/asound/modules
[00:04] <wildbat> anyone know how do i use skim in Konversation?
[00:05] <dragomir> sorry mefisto
[00:05] <dragomir> I don't know how
[00:05] <dragomir> is comand at the terminal
[00:05] <dragomir> ?
[00:06] <mDemocritus> dragomir: yes, run "cat /proc/asound/modules" in a terminal
[00:06] <mefisto__> dragomir: open konsole from the menu (or alt+F2 and type konsole) and copy/paste the command: cat /proc/asound/modules
[00:06] <dragomir> ok
[00:07] <NigelS> I really think you should try one thing at once...I'm now confused about whether the sounds channels are muted ;)
[00:08] <helmi> hello!
[00:08] <mDemocritus> !hi | helmi
[00:09] <dragomir> they are not muted
[00:09] <helmi> please, i want to know how to accelerate download speed of update manager?
[00:09] <ubuntu_> hi
[00:11] <mefisto__> helmi: you could try changing download servers
[00:12] <helmi> how can i do this, am newbie
[00:14] <mefisto__> helmi: alt-F2, then type: kdesudo software-properties-kde
[00:14] <mefisto__> helmi: then look in the menu where it says "Download from:"
[00:15] <lucas_> Buenas
[00:15] <helmi> thak u
[00:15] <lucas_> Hi
[00:16] <lucas_> This is my first time whit Kubuntu
[00:16] <mefisto__> helmi: usually the closest server is faster, but try the others too maybe. especially "main server"
[00:29] <SJr> How can I assign the meta key as a shortcut by itself?
[00:29] <SJr> How can I change the system tray / notification area to require double click to activate?
[00:29] <SJr> I'm having some minor graphical bugs with the System tray as well.
[00:34] <goosfancito> hola a todos
[00:34] <bazhang> !ar
[00:36] <GWild> Hello - as a first Kubuntu installation would you recommend 8.10 or 8.04?
[00:40] <chris-rc1> GWild: i don't even know which version we have now :-) hardy is 8.04, right?
[00:40] <dsnaike> GWild 8.10
[00:40] <GWild> hmm
[00:41] <GWild> decisions decisions....
[00:41] <GWild> one is kde 3.5 and one is 4.x right?
[00:41] <mefisto__> GWild: 8.04 and 8.10 are very different in kubuntu
[00:41] <Dragnslicer> If you go with 8.10, make sure to install KDE 4.2 from the PPA repository
[00:41] <mefisto__> GWild: right, that's the main decision
[00:42] <GWild> I've heard that 4.x is a bit buggy....
[00:42] <dsnaike> Gwild 4.2
[00:42] <mefisto__> GWild: 4.2 is much improved, but you have to install from the experimental PPA repository
[00:42] <GWild> dsnaike: 4.2 and 8.10 eh?
[00:43] <GWild> mefisto__: ok
[00:43] <GWild> hmm
[00:43] <GWild> I'm brand new to Kub, so pardon the elementary questions
[00:43] <GWild> I like it though - ran Gentoo for several years
[00:43] <GWild> and it's tedious......
[00:43] <mefisto__> GWild: there's also Jaunty 9.04 which you can install now, or wait for official release in april
[00:43] <dsnaike> GWild google kde 4.2 and read
[00:43] <GWild> will do
[00:44] <GWild> I actually have 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) installed
[00:44] <GWild> it's what I'm using now
[00:44] <GWild> but several things are strange
[00:44] <dsnaike> then get 4.2
[00:44] <dsnaike> like
[00:44] <GWild> ok
[00:45] <mefisto__> GWild: much fewer things are strange in 4.2, but still far from perfect
[00:45] <GWild> hmm, maybe I'll just install 8.04 w/ 3.5 and wait
[00:45] <GWild> I'll have to decide
[00:45] <dsnaike> GWild take ur time with application installs after the upgrade research first
[00:46] <GWild> dsnaike: ok
[00:46] <mefisto__> GWild: another option is to partition your disk so you can install many and decide which you like
[00:47] <GWild> mefisto__: that's a good option too
[00:47] <GWild> out of curiosity - I have two physical drives and Kub is installed on 1
[00:48] <GWild> what app would you recommend to rearrange the partitions/mountpoints?
[00:48] <GWild> I want to use the other unused drive
[00:48] <GWild> and integrate it into the system
[00:48] <mefisto__> GWild: gparted is nice and easy to use
[00:48] <dsnaike> GWild i have 2 160 gig hd's parted 80gigs each distro on each
[00:49] <dsnaike> no windows
[00:49] <GWild> no windows
[00:49] <GWild> I have a Win box since I must for work but I only 'use' Linux
[00:50] <dsnaike> my lappy handles that
[00:50] <GWild> gparted - I'm going to check that out - move the mountpoints around
[00:50] <GWild> If I'm not here in one hour I'm reinstalling!!
[00:50] <dsnaike> be carefull
[00:51] <GWild> will do - I've never used gparted
[00:51] <GWild> and I've never done this after the fact - always before....
[00:52] <mefisto__> GWild: gparted lets you play around with things but won't make any changes till you apply
[00:52] <GWild> understood
[00:52] <GWild> ty
[00:53] <mefisto__> GWild: but if you make many changes, then change back, then change again, gparted will do all those steps if you apply, and it will take a long time
[00:53] <GWild> mefisto__: I see - applies them in fifo sounds like
[00:55] <maco> is konqueror incompatible with google reader?
[00:58] <mefisto__> maco: works for me
[00:58] <maco> mefisto__: jaunty?
[00:58] <DarkTan> i having a problem with my graphics card. I switched my laptop to dual screen with a projector and have been stuck with 640x480 ever since
[00:58] <maco> i just get the header and "Loading..." in the little orange bar, and then the rest is blank. konq says "page loaded"
[01:00] <Dragnslicer> maco- have Javascript disabled, maybe?
[01:01] <maco> launchpad works, so i dont think so
[01:01] <mefisto__> maco: works in hardy and intrepid VM for me
[01:02] <maco> yeah js is enabled
[01:10] <DarkTan> anyone know how to fix problem with an ATI card?
[01:10] <mefisto__> what problem, DarkTan?
[01:10] <DarkTan> i having a problem with my graphics card. I switched my laptop to dual screen with a projector and have been stuck with 640x480 ever since
[01:11] <family> What is the command to install nvidia drivers?
[01:11] <Bugsbane> sudo jockey-kde
[01:11] <Bugsbane> then choose the nvidia driver
[01:11] <Bugsbane> and apply
[01:11] <Bugsbane> oops kdesudo jockey-kde
[01:11] <Bugsbane> (sudo on a gui is *bad*)
[01:12] <mefisto__> Bugsbane: also, oops ati driver :)
[01:12] <family> Thanks a lot bugsbane
[01:12] <Bugsbane> np
[01:12] <mefisto__> Bugsbane: oops, sorry, got that mixed up. thought you were talking to DarkTan
[01:13] <Bugsbane> @ mephisto_ lol, I was scratching my head over that one...
[01:13] <bbapti> where can i get help upgrading to kde4.2 from intrepid 4.1
[01:13] <DarkTan> i actually used that info, gonna reboot and see what happens
[01:15] <bbapti> i'm starting from a fresh install from cd of 8.10 64bit version
[01:15] <bbapti> then i added the reposatory and added the key
[01:16] <bbapti> with the instructions on the cite http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[01:16] <Bugsbane> ok, then all you need to do is add deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main to your sources and do a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade and reboot
[01:16] <bbapti> so i did that
[01:17] <bbapti> and a ton of stuff was missing....
[01:17] <v4lentin> emm... somebody's french here?...
[01:17] <bbapti> it, from what i could tell, failed to comit some of the packages
[01:18] <DarkTan> well i re-enabled the proprietary driver, and that didn't help any
[01:18] <Bugsbane> hmmm... would be worth looking at dpkg.log in /var/log it should give you some hints as to what happened
[01:19] <Bugsbane> (that was to @bbapti)
[01:19] <mefisto__> !fr | v4lentin
[01:19] <bbapti> so i went back and reinstalled from cd....because i am tied to using a wifi connection, and when i cam back in there were so many packages missiing that things like knetworkmanager were broken and i coulnt try and reinstall packages
[01:20] <Bugsbane> @bbapti I would try doing sudo dpkg --configure -a then sudo apt-get install -f a couple of times and see if that helps
[01:20] <bbapti> bugsbane.....step four on that cite......is there anything that i should do from a fresh install or is that only if you add things after
[01:20] <bbapti> i actually had to do that to get it happy before i tried to restart and ot crippled
[01:21] <Bugsbane> @bbapti sometimes it just needs somethings installed first and other things configured second. So if you do this a few times often it will work itself out.
[01:21] <mefisto__> !resolution
[01:21] <Bugsbane> @bbapti Do you get a specific error in the console?
[01:21] <trevor> hey
[01:21] <bbapti> it told me that there were no packages needed upgrading or installed....it said one thing got helf back
[01:22] <mefisto__> DarkTan: try that resolution link ^^
[01:22] <trevor> i just installed kubuntu and updated to kde 4.2
[01:22] <trevor> why does my laptop seem to be incredibly hot
[01:22] <DarkTan> checking the link now mefisto__
[01:22] <mefisto__> DarkTan: or look in /etc/X11 and see if there are any xorg.conf backups
[01:22] <Bugsbane> @bbapti So when you do sudo apt-get upgrade it should say what package is held back. Can you say which one?
[01:22] <roccity_> 4.2 is awesome has a slight different feel under the hood
[01:22] <Bugsbane> 4.2 feels *much* faster. :)
[01:23] <roccity_> Bugsbane: yeah seems to be more together
[01:23] <bbapti> well i have since had to start over.....i just wanted to make sure that i didnt "miss" anything obvious
[01:24] <bbapti> i will attempt it again and give chime in if i see any errors or anything
[01:24] <Bugsbane> @bbapti  Usually it's either just what I typed above, or if you're using experimental ppa's, some bad packaging or conflicts (such as Amarok Neon had two packages trying to write one file).
[01:24] <bbapti> thanks for the help guys i will let you know how i make out
[01:24] <bardok> moin
[01:24] <Bugsbane> @bbapti  if it's the second, you can --force it but it's a bit dangerous if you don't know what youre doing
[01:24] <Bugsbane> @bbapti  no problem.  That's what we like to hear. :)
[01:27] <bbapti> i dont think i ran the dpkg --configure -a
[01:27] <bbapti> i just did the apt-get install-f
[01:27] <Bugsbane> @bbapti Yes??
[01:28] <Bugsbane> @bbapti Ahhhhhh...
[01:28] <Bugsbane> @bbapti We live and learn. :)
[01:28] <DarkTan> mefisto__: xrandr doesn't seem to be doing anything for me
[01:28] <bbapti> because apt said or.....so i just did the last one
[01:28] <bbapti> hahahahah well take 2
[01:28] <bbapti> what does the dpkg comand do?
[01:29] <roccity_> bbapti: it installs packages
[01:29] <bbapti> that the apt get command doesnt
[01:29] <roccity_> bbapti: so dpkg -i some package
[01:30] <roccity_> it's the command line version of gdebi
[01:30] <bardok> thx for this tip
[01:30] <bardok> ^^
[01:30] <mefisto__> DarkTan: try editing xorg.conf like the example on that page. the display subsection and the monitor section are the things to work on
[01:31] <DarkTan> well i can't even figure out what i need to put in for modifying the display
[01:31] <mefisto__> DarkTan: man xorg.conf  gives detailed info if you need it
[01:32] <bbapti> oh hey...one question before
[01:32] <bbapti> i go fot it
[01:32] <DarkTan> for example: the pages tells me to enter "xrandr --output LVDS --mode 1024x768"
[01:33] <DarkTan> i know LVDS should be changed to what ever my output is
[01:33] <mefisto__> DarkTan: try the display subsection first, putting in the highest resolution you need
[01:33] <bbapti> should i do an upgrade with out the 4.2 reposatory in there first or does it matter.....ie go directly to 4.2 from the cd install
[01:33] <DarkTan> well i doesn't tell me what the display is
[01:34] <roccity_> bbapti: what do you mean
[01:34] <roccity_> are you going to do a fresh install or apt-get upgrade?
[01:34] <bbapti> right now from a fresh install from the cd there are a bunch of things that need updating
[01:34] <bbapti> should i do that first then go to 4.2
[01:34] <bbapti> or just go for 4.2 right away
[01:35] <roccity_> bbapti: if its a apt-get one yes upgrade 4.1 one first
[01:35] <bbapti> ok so make 4.1 fully up to date....then do the 4.2 upgrade procedure
[01:35] <roccity_> bbapti: it will cut down on problems later
[01:35] <bbapti> ok good idea
[01:36] <sensae> Hello
[01:36] <roccity_> bbapti: yeah you should do that with any major upgrade
[01:36] <sensae> I'm having weird blue corruption on my notification tray icons
[01:36] <bbapti> ok good idea
[01:37] <mefisto__> DarkTan: in the "Screen" section, put in SubSection "Display", Modes "1024x768", EndSubSection (like in the example, each on its own line)
[01:38] <bbapti> thanks agian guys
[01:40] <anouar> hi every one
[01:41] <mandy> hola
[01:41] <anouar> u speak english ??
[01:44] <DarkTan> ok, where is the xorg.conf file at?
[01:44] <mefisto__> DarkTan: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:45] <DarkTan> 0_o I have 7 xorg.conf files
[01:45] <DarkTan> is that supposed to be that way?
[01:46] <mefisto__> DarkTan: they are probably backups. there should be just one being used, named xorg.conf
[01:46] <roccity_> DarkTan: are they back ups?
[01:46] <DarkTan> one is xorg.conf, the rest are xorg.conf(1-6)
[01:46] <roccity_> DarkTan: if they have ~ after them they are back ups
[01:47] <roccity_> DarkTan: yeah they are back ups
[01:47] <DarkTan> well they don;t have the ~ after them
[01:48] <roccity_> DarkTan: are they copies?
[01:48] <mefisto__> DarkTan: xorg.conf.6 is probably the most recent. look at what's in that and compare it to your current xorg.conf
[01:50] <DarkTan> meh, 6 is the same as current, 5 and 1 are missing almost everything, 2-4 are the same, each with two sections for 640x480
[01:50] <SuspectZero> whts a good application that can open virtual machines for me
[01:51] <SuspectZero> i tried vbox but it doesnt seem to work properly
[01:51] <mefisto__> SuspectZero: virtualbox
[01:51] <SuspectZero> i tried that but i get an error that i cant seem to fix
[01:51] <tuxi> virtualbox works just fine for me
[01:51] <SuspectZero> anything else?
[01:51] <tuxi> some have used qemu (iirc)
[01:53] <mefisto__> DarkTan: make a backup of xorg.conf, then try editing one of the backups with 640x480 adding the resolution you want, then save that as xorg.conf
[01:54] <DarkTan> ok, i try that
[01:55] <mefisto__> DarkTan: or pastebin one of them if you like so we can take a look at what you have http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[01:55] <DarkTan> i like that idea better
[01:56] <DarkTan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/121276/
[02:00] <mefisto__> DarkTan: what resolution do you want?
[02:00] <DarkTan> 1280x768 i think
[02:00] <DarkTan> is that a valid widescree res? i can't remember what it used to be
[02:06] <maco> DarkTan: 1280x800 usually, i think
[02:06] <DarkTan> i dunno, i'd have to reboot in to windows to find out
[02:07] <mefisto__> DarkTan: use the gtf command to get a proper modeline for xorg.conf
[02:08] <mefisto__> DarkTan: like this: gtf 1280 768 60
[02:08] <mefisto__> DarkTan: that would be for 1280x768 @ 60 Hz
[02:08] <DarkTan> ok
[02:09] <DarkTan> ""1280x768_60.00"  80.14  1280 1344 1480 1680  768 769 772 795  -HSync +Vsync"
[02:13] <mefisto__> DarkTan: ok, try this one: http://paste.ubuntu.com/121277/
[02:13] <mefisto__> DarkTan: keep a backup of your current one in case you can't login graphically
[02:13] <mefisto__> DarkTan: so you can change it back
[02:13] <DarkTan> i've already done so
[02:13] <DarkTan> also backed up the back up ^^
[02:15] <racecar56> hey my computers went insane when i ran that command that removed gnome
[02:15] <racecar56> agh at least it's done with
[02:15] <DarkTan> yes, it will do that
[02:15]  * DarkTan did that once, had to do a full reinstall
[02:16] <racecar56> yeah
[02:16] <racecar56> i had to do it too
[02:16] <racecar56> because i always make my /home partition seprate i didnt lose my data :>
[02:17] <mefisto__> racecar56: so you did a full reinstall?
[02:17] <racecar56> yes
[02:17]  * DarkTan keeps all his stuff on a ntfs partition so windoze can access it too
[02:17] <racecar56> lol@windoze
[02:18] <muxomor> how you make startus with * ?
[02:18] <DarkTan> Microsuck Windoze XD
[02:18] <muxomor> *z
[02:18] <muxomor> meh
[02:18] <mefisto__> muxomor: you type /me  and it's replaced with your name
[02:18]  * muxomor is curious
[02:18] <muxomor> thanks ! :-)
[02:19] <DarkTan> so, what do i do with that mode line?
[02:19] <mefisto__> DarkTan: I put it in the one I gave you :http://paste.ubuntu.com/121277/
[02:20] <mefisto__> DarkTan: just use that as your xorg.conf
[02:21] <mefisto__> DarkTan: I added line 55, and changed lines 66 and 67
[02:21] <DarkTan> ok, now what do i do?
[02:21] <racecar56> microsuck windoze XDDDD
[02:21] <racecar56> lolz
[02:21]  * racecar56 lol'z
[02:21] <DarkTan> reboot or just change the res?
[02:23] <mefisto__> DarkTan: logout, restart X from the login menu and login again. or just alt-ctrl-backspace to restart X immediately (everything in kde will shutdown, so save anything you need to first)
[02:23] <DarkTan> ok, will do so now
[02:23] <mefisto__> DarkTan: do you know how to do a console login ?
[02:24] <racecar56> hey darktan do you think that windows 7 wil fail?
[02:24] <mefisto__> hope he can restore that backup if it doesn't work
[02:24] <racecar56> doh
[02:31] <muxomor> does anyone use psad?
[02:34] <racecar56> the clock is in military time O_o how do i fix that
[02:35] <Dragnslicer> System Settings -> Date and Time, I think
[02:36] <Dragnslicer> Sorry, Regional and Language
[02:36] <mefisto__> yeah, weird how it's in there
[02:37] <mefisto__> most people don't think of date and time as a language thing
[02:39] <Walzmyn> since i've updated to interpid I cannot get my printer to work
[02:41] <mefisto__> Walzmyn: are your printer and settings still there?
[02:41] <Walzmyn> mefisto__, yes, it still lists the printer
[02:41] <Walzmyn> everything says it's printing - just nothing happens at the printer, mefisto__
[02:42] <mefisto__> Walzmyn: try removing then reinstalling cups
[02:42] <Walzmyn> mefisto__, though apt?
[02:43] <mefisto__> Walzmyn: have you tried setting up a second version of your printer?
[02:43] <Walzmyn> mefisto__, i'm not sure how. the printer stuff is all different in 8.10
[02:45] <mefisto__> try the browser interface: http://localhost:631
[02:46] <SJr> Plasma and Xorg are taking up 75% of my cpu on a my core 2 duo machine, even though composting is off suggestions?
[02:47] <Walzmyn> mefisto__, i found a different printer interface (i'd already found 3) that allowed me to uninstall the printer and re-install it, we'll test it now
[02:48] <Walzmyn> woohoo! she prints!
[02:48] <mefisto__> Walzmyn: what interface did you use? something in the menu?
[02:48] <Walzmyn> mefisto__, I guess I should thank you. I was scrolling though the Kmenu looking for adept when I found that printer interface
[02:49] <Walzmyn> Kmenu>application>sysetm>printing
[02:49] <Walzmyn> I'd just not seen it there
[02:50] <SJr> Where do I file bugs for KDE with Kubuntu? KDE or Kubuntu's bug reporting.
[02:51] <Walzmyn> SJr, depends on the bug, if it's local to kubuntu or all of KDE
[02:51] <Walzmyn> which may be hard to determine
[02:51] <SJr> lol yes I know, but who will bitch at me less for posting on the wrong forum.
[02:52] <Walzmyn> weal, based on the people on the chat channels, kubuntu will bitch less
[02:52] <Walzmyn> but i think the bug people are all pretty ameaniable in both camps
[02:52] <SJr> rofl
[02:52] <SJr> Yeah I dunno what it is about freenode but there vicious
[02:53] <Walzmyn> having never reported a bug (I always find them after they've been fixed) I cannot help ya there
[02:54] <mefisto__> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug  but do a search first to see if someone else has filed the same bug. might even find a workaround or solution
[02:56] <mefisto__> SJr: kde programs have "report a bug" in the help menu
[02:56] <SJr> Hmmmm I've already searched there bug database, but didn't find anything
[02:57] <SJr> ubuntu's bug tracker seems down
[02:59] <mefisto__> that's the ubuntu one I gave you. here's kubuntu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-bugs
[03:00] <SJr> Probably also down
[03:01] <SJr> Ah no it's up
[03:07] <racecar56> restarting xorg i updated to 4.2 from 4.1.4
[03:09] <flice> hi
[03:10] <flice> after upgrading to KDE 4.2 on Ubuntu 8.10 from backports, the "end" key stopped working in text fields (both QT and GTK)
[03:17] <mefisto__> kde 4.2 is in backports now?
[03:18] <JontheEchidna> yeah
[03:18] <JontheEchidna> some packaging bugs are still being ironed out
[03:19] <mefisto__> so it's still better to upgrade through the experimental ppa? or is it the same?
[03:19] <JontheEchidna> it's the same
[03:20] <JontheEchidna> if you already have 4.2 you shouldn't have any problem going from ppa -> backports
[03:20] <mefisto__> I suppose there's other things in backports apart from 4.2 though that you might not want, right?
[03:24] <JontheEchidna> right, I suppose
[03:24] <stretch> how do i find more chats ?
[03:25] <ibuffy> occasionally my keyboard quits responding... what's with this?
[03:25] <ibuffy> typically it's just kde apps, but last time... even firefox didn't respond
[03:26] <JontheEchidna> maybe sticky keys are somehow being activated
[03:26] <JontheEchidna> you could try holding a key down for a while next time it happens
[03:26] <stretch> yeah i have that too sometimes...
[03:33] <trevor> hey, i am having problems activating my ati graphics card with the hardware drivers selection
[03:33] <trevor> how can i do that?
[03:33] <trevor> or is there a better way
[03:38] <mefisto__> is it listed in hardware drivers?
[03:39] <trevor> yes?
[03:40] <trevor> i click activate and it doesnt do anything
[03:40] <trevor> just sits there
[03:41] <mefisto__> xorg-driver-fglrx is what it installs
[03:41] <trevor> sooooo
[03:41] <trevor> if
[03:41] <trevor> i were to put in a terminal command what would it be do you know?
[03:41] <mefisto__> sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[03:42] <trevor> thats what i thought
[03:42] <trevor> thanks
[03:43] <draik_> I want to recover files from the HDD. What apps would you all recommend? I can access the XP drive and a LiveCD without touching the Kubuntu HDD.
[03:44] <srujan> have anyone used monodevelop
[03:45] <trevor> ok so i put in the konsole command it everything went fine, but it still isnt activated
[03:46] <trevor> and i cant do anything when i click activate
[03:47] <mefisto__> trevor: put in Driver "fglrx" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf in the "Device" section
[03:47] <mefisto__> trevor: on its own line: Driver "fglrx"
[03:47] <syroth> hey quick question anyone got a min?
[03:48] <mefisto__> trevor: then save it, and restart X. hopefully it will work with the right resolution
[03:48] <InfernoLinux> Hey, I need help finding/installing a network driver on a gigabyte ex58-ud5 mainboard
[03:49] <trevor> ok can i copy and paste what is in this file for me, and you can tell me where to put it
[03:50] <trevor> ive never had a problem in ubuntu or mint or fedora, but for whatever reason this seems completely different to me
[03:51] <mefisto__> !paste | trevor
[03:52] <Totski> hello
[03:53] <trevor> http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/121305/
[03:57] <InfernoLinux> can anyone help me get my onboard lan ports to work
[03:57] <Slartibartfast> InfernoLinux, seems a Realtek RTL8111C chip
[03:58] <InfernoLinux> so what do I do
[03:58] <InfernoLinux> its a fresh install of 8.10 kde4
[03:59] <Slartibartfast> maybe you'll read in this thread ... http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-671614.html ... but it seems to be for Hardy  ...
[03:59] <mefisto__> trevor: http://paste.ubuntu.com/121310/  lines 25-27 are options I needed to get video working properly. might be different for your particular card
[04:01] <Slartibartfast> InfernoLinux, sory seems for gutsy, don't know if it is still not fixed
[04:02] <syroth> this is directed towards anyone / everyone , in my last set of updates mysql was installed on its own ( just did a mark all upgrades in synaptic)
[04:02] <syroth> and i want to know if anyone knows why or how i can figure out why
[04:02] <InfernoLinux> gahhh that was a lot of reading for the bottom to say they "fixed" the bug
[04:03] <trevor> thanks mefisto, i will give it a try later
[04:04] <InfernoLinux> Slartibartfast I had to use the driver from the cd to get it to work in vista because windoze update is an rtard and tried to update it with faulty software. I think I just need to find the driver for this chip
[04:04] <Slartibartfast> yes sorry, download the http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=13&PFid=5&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false#2
[04:04] <Slartibartfast> maybe that helps ...
[04:05] <Slartibartfast> Follow the instructions in the Realtek readme
[04:05] <InfernoLinux> seems silly but which one should i grab
[04:06] <Slartibartfast> but wait ...... if you do modprobe r8168 ... you can not configure a network?
[04:07] <InfernoLinux> let me try
[04:07] <InfernoLinux> module not found
[04:08] <Slartibartfast> and what if you do modprobe r8169 ?
[04:09] <mefisto__> does modprobe need sudo ?
[04:10] <InfernoLinux> Error inserting r8169 (blahblah) Operation not permitted
[04:10] <InfernoLinux> if i do it with sudo nothing echos
[04:10] <Slartibartfast> then the module is probably loaded
[04:11] <Slartibartfast> can test with lsmod |grep r8169
[04:11] <InfernoLinux> but when i click on knetworkmanager it doesnt see either of the ETH ports
[04:12] <InfernoLinux> lsmod |grep r8169 returns <r8169   40196 0>
[04:12] <Slartibartfast> so it is loaded ....
[04:13] <Slartibartfast> "dmesg |grep eth0" gives output?
[04:14] <InfernoLinux> negative
[04:15] <Slartibartfast> mmm strange ... so the module loads perfectly for the hardware, but it does not see the hardware ...
[04:16] <InfernoLinux> its bloody perplexing i tell you
[04:17] <Slartibartfast> so another road you can take is try the driver from the realtek website ... there is a linux driver listed ... read the docs there howto do ...
[04:20] <ETie> okay im back
[04:20] <ETie> now on ubuntu
[04:21] <ETie> man, there is 122 proc on this thing
[04:27] <santiago> Hi! I have a question...
[04:28] <ETie> go on
[04:28] <santiago> is there anyway for konqueror to have plugins for "share this" and "Diigo"??
[04:29] <ETie> meh
[04:29] <Slartibartfast> InfernoLinux, maybe this thread also is helpful for you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=538448
[04:29] <Slartibartfast> Seems a lot of people have problems with this chip
[04:29] <mefisto__> ETie: I have 222 processes. I win :)
[04:32] <ETie> mefisto__:  ive seen shells with 30 processes
[04:32] <ETie> its not a contest im sure
[04:33] <mefisto__> just kidding around ETie
[04:33] <imps> This is just a a quick question but, how hard is it to get wine installed and working?
[04:34] <mefisto__> imps: sudo apt-get install wine
[04:34] <imps> Oh, so its relatively simple?
[04:34] <mefisto__> imps: how well it works depends largely on the program I think
[04:35] <imps> Just need to get HL2 working.
[04:36] <imps> Google is telling me its  support.  Thanks for the info, mesfisto
[04:44] <silver_swords> hi all
[04:47] <trevor> hey, mefisto, you still there
[04:47] <trevor> when i try to edit my xorg.conf, it says i dont have the permission to edit it, how do i get write access
[04:49] <gords> hi all! what are the free rtmp server which runs on ubuntu 8?
[04:49] <mefisto__> if you're using a graphical editor like kate, kdesudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf      or in terminal  sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:50] <trevor> i was just using kate
[04:50] <mefisto__> trevor: but if for some reason it completely fails and X doesn't start, you'll need to do console login and do it with sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf to remove Driver "fglrx"
[04:50] <trevor> i tried sudp gedit
[04:50] <trevor> sudo i mean
[04:51] <mefisto__> trevor: sudo in console programs, kdesudo for graphical "gui" ones
[04:51] <caustin_> Anyone here tripple booting with Vista, XP and Kubuntu?
[04:54] <trevor> when i open it up in terminal with both nano and kate /etc/.... it brings up blank documents
[04:54] <mefisto__> trevor: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:54] <trevor> thats what i used
[04:54] <trevor> and it is blank
[04:55] <trevor> when it comes up
[04:55] <mefisto__> trevor: capital X ?
[04:55] <trevor> yes
[04:55] <mefisto__> X11
[04:55] <trevor> there we go
[04:56] <trevor> i got it to come up
[04:57] <mefisto__> trevor: the commands at the bottom of the nano screen eg, ^X ^W means ctrl-X ctrl-W etc
[04:59] <trevor> awesome, thanks so much mefisto
[04:59] <scott_ev> anyone know the kubuntu development channel?
[04:59] <trevor> it is working now
[04:59] <mefisto__> trevor: you exited and saved it?
[05:01] <mefisto__> trevor: you need to restart X to see if it works after saving it
[05:03] <silver_swords> anybody got yahoo messenger 9 working in wine?
[05:19] <santiago> is there anyway for konqueror to have plugins for "share this" and "Diigo"??
[05:25] <draik_> DaSkreech: The backup failed. I'm using hope and prayer to recover my files.
[05:25] <DaSkreech> How much of the files came across?
[05:26] <draik_> Recover Data for Linux is still at 4% for the last 45 minutes. Nothing showing.
[05:26] <draik_> Stellar Phoenix Linux Data Recovery is coming up with a total of 2.08GB :) and counting
[05:26] <draik_> It just jumped from 2.04 to 2.20GB
[05:27] <draik_> *2.08 to 2.25GB now.
[05:27]  * draik_ likes Stellar Phoenix for recovery
[05:30] <DaSkreech> :-D
[05:30] <DaSkreech> Where did you find it?
[05:32] <draik_> DaSkreech: Do you mean the app?
[05:32] <DaSkreech> Yes
[05:32] <DaSkreech> hi peacesarah
[05:32] <draik_> Google
[05:32] <draik_> "linux disk recovery"
[05:32] <DaSkreech> Of course
[05:33] <draik_> 3.22GB and counting right now
[05:33] <draik_> 50,000+ files
[05:33] <DaSkreech> Nice
[05:33] <draik_> :)
[05:34] <draik_> What is a *.7z file?
[05:34] <DaSkreech> A compressed file
[05:34] <draik_> OK. Never seen that extension.
[05:36] <draik_> DaSkreech: ARK won't open the *.7z file
[05:36] <DaSkreech> Then why did you ask about it?
[05:36] <DaSkreech> You don't have the unzip utility installed
[05:37] <draik_> How do I install it?
[05:37] <draik_> What is the package name?
[05:39] <draik_> What is phonon-backend-xine?
[05:43] <bbapti> hey guys....anyone arround that could give some 4.2 upgrade advice
[05:44] <lancerace> i need a had with a kde4.2 upgrade problem
[05:44] <lancerace> <---same user as bbapti
[05:45] <lancerace> i have followed the directions as in theis cite.......http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[05:45] <lancerace> did the sudo aptitude update and upgrade
[05:46] <lancerace> it downloaded an and started to install.
[05:46] <lancerace> i did the mysql passwd
[05:46] <lancerace> it did some setting up
[05:46] <lancerace> then died
[05:46] <lancerace> i did a dpkg --configure -a
[05:47] <lancerace> and an apt-get install -f
[05:47] <lancerace> and it still says A package failed to install.  Trying to recover:
[05:48] <lancerace> "
[05:48] <draik_> !enter | lancerace
[05:48] <lancerace> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:48] <lancerace>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-window-manager_4%3a4.2.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa7_amd64.deb
[05:48] <lancerace> sorry
[05:50] <lancerace> any ideas?.......i am running 8.10 fully up to date version of kde 4.1.4 before attempting to do the switch to 4.2
[05:50] <lancerace> oh and its 64 bit version if that matters
[05:50] <draik_> DaSkreech: 4.05GB in 1 hour. Not bad, huh? It's only a bit over 1/3 done with the drive, too.
[05:52] <DaSkreech> Sounds nice
[05:52] <mefisto__> lol. draik_ I read what you said and thought you meant you were *downloading* something that was 2.25GB
[05:52] <draik_> Whoa
[05:52] <DaSkreech> draik_: phonon-backend-xine is the xine backend to phonon
[05:52] <draik_> DaSkreech: You don't say ;)
[05:52] <DaSkreech> bbapti: 4.2 instructions are in the topic
[05:53] <mefisto__> lancerace: so what happens if you try to install kde-window-manager ?
[05:53] <draik_> I didn't pay attention to my 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade' and now I have installed 4.2 on this laptop.
[05:53] <DaSkreech> lancerace: can you install that package by itself?
[05:53] <lancerace> lets see
[05:53] <DaSkreech> draik_: Whoops :)
[05:53] <draik_> Oh well.
[05:54] <draik_> I rarely, if ever, reboot this laptop.
[05:54] <draik_> What is the deal with 4.2? Is something wrong with it?
[05:54] <mefisto__> draik_: I found out just a while ago that 4.2 is in backports repo now
[05:54] <lancerace> i get that same error
[05:54] <lancerace> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:54] <lancerace>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-window-manager_4%3a4.2.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa7_amd64.deb
[05:54] <DaSkreech> draik_: you don't need to reboot. Just logout press alt+E and log back in
[05:55] <DaSkreech> lancerace: remove that file
[05:55] <lancerace> ok......woking on it
[05:55] <mefisto__> DaSkreech: the file? or remove the package?
[05:55] <DaSkreech> That file
[05:56] <DaSkreech> sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives etc etc
[05:56] <lancerace> ok its now dling it agian
[05:56] <lancerace> well i just killed that one file
[05:56] <lancerace> but it errored again
[05:57] <lancerace> slightly diffrent error this thime
[05:57] <draik_> Is there anything wrong with KDE4.2?
[05:58] <mefisto__> lancerace: try apt-get remove kde-window-manager then reinstall (the upgraded version)
[05:58] <DaSkreech> draik_: as with all KDE 4 relelases so far. If you have a problem with it then something is wrong with it
[05:58] <lancerace> can i just copy in the output of the aptitude that that i get.......or is that too offencive
[05:58] <DaSkreech> !paste
[05:59] <mefisto__> lancerace: is it an error about overwriting something?
[05:59] <lancerace> yep
[05:59] <lancerace> i was about to try ur sugestion
[06:00] <draik_> I guess I will reboot and see what happens. I also want to use the new kernel
[06:00] <mefisto__> kde-window-decorator or something?
[06:00] <draik_> I hope to see you all soon.
[06:01] <lancerace> by running the command that mefisto recomends it also wants to remove kubuntu-desktop.............should i do this?
[06:01] <DaSkreech> lancerace: Yes
[06:02] <lancerace> ok....?  here goes
[06:02] <lancerace> no i guess that i will try to install kde-window-manager
[06:03] <lancerace> same error message ....i will try and use the paste bin so u can see my error message
[06:04] <DaSkreech> ok
[06:04] <lancerace> hmmmmm konquoror seems broken now..:(
[06:05] <DaSkreech> lancerace: Of course it is
[06:05] <lancerace> Cannot Initiate the http Protocol.........booo
[06:05] <DaSkreech> lancerace: join #lance-paste
[06:05] <mefisto__> :)
[06:25] <draik> DaSkreech: I cannot use the GUI. I have no borders on the windows and the keyboard does not respond.
[06:25] <draik> I am in TTY1 on the laptop using IRSSI
[06:26] <DaSkreech> draik: can you jump back to GUI andsee if alt+F2 works ?
[06:26] <draik> Nothing works in regards to the keyboard. I can't type anything. It's like a keyboard doesn't exist.
[06:27] <DaSkreech> draik: Works on tty2?
[06:27] <ockonal> draik: after updating to kde 4.2?
[06:27] <draik> DaSkreech: I'm on TTY1 right now with IRSSI
[06:27] <draik> ockonal: Yes, after the upgrade to 4.2
[06:27] <DaSkreech> draik: ok tty2 try export DISPLAY=:0.0
[06:27] <DaSkreech> then kwin&
[06:27] <ockonal> draik: heh =) Wait, please
[06:28] <draik> ockonal: Ok
[06:28] <michael> does anyone in here have any experience upgrading end of life versions
[06:28] <draik> DaSkreech: 'export DISPLAY=:0.0'
[06:29] <ockonal> draik: befero all sace all your data (like bookmarks, contacts) rm -r ~/.kde   then sudo aptitude purge kwin && sudo install kwin
[06:29] <ockonal> draik: *save
[06:29] <DaSkreech> huntz: Sure
[06:29] <DaSkreech> !upgrade
[06:29] <draik> How do I get to TTY2 since I'm using TTY1 right now for IRSII
[06:29] <huntz> I am running edgy now and I would rather not throw away my setup just to upgrade
[06:29] <draik> *IRSSI
[06:30] <dr_Willis> I always install a 'backup' window manager like icewm - just in case KDE dies on me :)
[06:30] <DaSkreech> draik: alt+ctrl+F2 use alt+ctrl+F1 to get back to TTY1
[06:30] <DaSkreech> dr_Willis: Still need to start it :)
[06:30] <huntz> I have been through the upgrade notes
[06:30] <draik> It doesn't do anything, DaSkreech. I'm stuck in IRSSI
[06:30] <dr_Willis> DaSkreech,  exit .xinitrc and 'startx' :)
[06:30] <huntz> and I am having issues with the patch command
[06:31] <draik> I guess I have to quit IRSSI first.
[06:31] <draik> What are the commands again?
[06:31] <DaSkreech> draik: alt+ctrl+F2 doesn't work ?
[06:31] <DaSkreech> huntz:
[06:31] <draik> DaSkreech: Nope.
[06:31] <DaSkreech> Which patch command?
[06:32] <DaSkreech> draik: alt+left arrow ?
[06:33] <draik> DaSkreech: Nope.
[06:33] <DaSkreech> weird
[06:33] <draik> None of the arrows.
[06:33] <huntz> the command in the guide say sudo patch < DistUpgradeControler.py.patch
[06:33] <draik> What are the commands again? I'm going to quit IRSSI once I get the commands.
[06:34] <huntz> its for patching the upgrade bug in edgy
[06:35] <draik> ockonal: What was the command you told me to run earlier?
[06:35] <DaSkreech> export DISPLAY=:0.0
[06:36] <DaSkreech> then kwin &
[06:36] <ockonal> draik: rm -r ~/.kde
[06:36] <ockonal> draik: sudo aptitude purge kwin && sudo aptitude install kwin
[06:36] <DaSkreech> huntz: that's 6.10 ?
[06:37] <huntz> DaSkreech: yes
[06:37] <DaSkreech> ockonal: how about mv ~/.kde
[06:37] <DaSkreech> draik: use mv ~/.kde ~/.kdebkup
[06:37] <ockonal> mm. yeah, thanx
[06:37] <DaSkreech> huntz: So you are reading the EOL upgrades page ?
[06:38] <reboR> Sorry to break in, I just installed ubuntu 8.10 on my backup drive. After installation it loaded fine but i've tried to start it up few times afterward but it loads the background image but not the rest of the desktop or menus.
[06:38] <draik> DaSkreech: ockonal: OK. I'm going to try now.
[06:38] <DaSkreech> ockonal: Your mail is kept in ~/.kde not a nice thing to lose for most people
[06:39] <draik> DaSkreech: Yeah, I know :(
[06:39] <draik> I hope to get my mail back :)
[06:39] <draik> Well, hopefully I'll TTY in a bit
[06:39] <russlar> @reboR: kquitapp plasma; /usr/bin/plasma >& /dev/null from command line
[06:39] <ockonal> DaSkreech: Yeah, thanx. I forgot it ;)
[06:39] <huntz> Yes I have them printed up I started in safemode
[06:40] <wildbat> !fuse
[06:40] <russlar> !!
[06:41] <DaSkreech> huntz: Ok I see it what's the issue?
[06:42] <russlar> reboR: you may have to run that twice. Plasma likes to crash on me when using the proprietary Cisco VPN client
[06:44] <huntz> DaSkreech: I do the 'sudo do-release-upgrade'
[06:44] <huntz> it gives me the patch schtuff for fiesty
[06:45] <huntz> then the command in the guide say sudo patch < DistUpgradeControler.py.patch
[06:45] <draik_> DaSkreech: ockonal: WOOHOO! I just needed to do 'sudo apt-get install kde-window-manager'
[06:45] <cllaudyu> how can i stop kde from crashing so often?
[06:45] <draik_> FYI- I'm in GUI with borders and (obviously) my keyboard works
[06:46] <russlar> cllaudyu: what part of kde is crashing? what version of kde?
[06:46] <huntz> and it tells me that file or directory doesn't exist
[06:46] <draik_> cllaudyu: When you get your answer, let me know. My KDE4.1.4 desktop kept doing that.
[06:46] <cllaudyu> kde4.2 plasma and everything is crashing
[06:46] <ockonal> draik_: ;)
[06:46] <russlar> cllaudyu: everything everything?
[06:46] <draik_> DaSkreech: ockonal: Thanks for your help. Very much appreciated.
[06:46] <cllaudyu> every little thing
[06:46] <russlar> the desktop crashes, but running windows don't?
[06:47] <cllaudyu> no
[06:47] <draik_> I don't know what it is about 4.2, but it looks simplified, somehow.
[06:47] <draik_> DaSkreech: 7.00GB+ and just over 50%
[06:48] <draik_> I don't think I'm going to get it all back, but the little things (pix, music, torrents, emails, ~/.kde) are what matter the most.
[06:48] <cllaudyu> i minimized konversation and got a blank screen
[06:48] <russlar> ahhh...
[06:49] <russlar> plasma crashed
[06:49] <cllaudyu> how can i restore eveything?
[06:49]  * dr_Willis does a transfusion
[06:49] <russlar> can you bring up a terminal window?
[06:49] <cllaudyu> it's annoying
[06:49] <cllaudyu> im trying that now
[06:50] <cllaudyu>  i opened a terminal
[06:50] <russlar> ok
[06:50] <russlar> do this: kquitapp plasma
[06:51] <cllaudyu> what do now?
[06:51] <russlar> cllaudyu: kquitapp plasma
[06:51] <cllaudyu> i got a error
[06:51] <russlar> cllaudyu: probably because it wasn't already runnint
[06:51] <russlar> cllaudyu: now run this: plasma >& /dev/null
[06:52] <cllaudyu> it worked
[06:52] <russlar> cllaudyu: :)
[06:52] <cllaudyu> )
[06:52] <cllaudyu> crashed again :((
[06:52] <russlar> it seems to happen to me a lot
[06:52] <russlar> ?
[06:52] <draik_> russlar: I'm not familiar with that. What does '>&' do?
[06:52] <russlar> draik_: sends all terminal putput to /dev/null
[06:53] <draik_> russlar: Wouldn't '>' alone have sufficed in that case?
[06:53] <russlar> maybe
[06:53] <russlar> but >& looks cooler
[06:53] <cllaudyu> this has no way to be solved?
[06:54] <draik_> I don't mean to be an @$$, I am just wondering about the meaning to the command. I know that every character has it's meaning/purpose.
[06:54] <russlar> draik_: it's all good
[06:54] <russlar> I think the >& includes errors in the redirect
[06:54] <cllaudyu> i runned that last command u toled me russlar  but it's doing it over and over again...
[06:54] <russlar> huh
[06:55] <cllaudyu> crashing
[06:55] <russlar> do ls -lrt in /var/log
[06:55] <draik_> russlar: Awesome. Good to know about that command entry. Thanks :)
[06:56] <cllaudyu> thanks anway
[06:57] <russlar> cllaudyu: something's up, causing plasma to crash instantly
[06:57] <russlar> obviously
[06:57] <cllaudyu> russlar yeah and nothing got this to stop
[06:57] <russlar> is there anything in /var/log/messages ?
[06:58] <cllaudyu> where is that?
[06:59] <russlar> cllaudyu: /var/log/
[06:59] <cllaudyu> i runned it in the terminal but gave me permision denied
[06:59] <russlar> then tail -50 messages | more
[06:59] <Huntz> DaSkreech: did you give up on me...lol
[06:59] <yoley> hey
[06:59] <yoley> hola
[07:00] <russlar> !/var/log/messages
[07:00] <cllaudyu> i found it
[07:01] <russlar> cllaudyu: outstanding
[07:01] <cllaudyu> error  in librdf
[07:02] <draik_> Did anyone else here get a PM from yoley?
[07:02] <russlar> nope
[07:02] <Huntz> negative
[07:02] <draik_> OK. I guess I was randomly selected for a "hello" PM
[07:03] <cllaudyu> what is this nepomukservices
[07:03] <russlar> cllaudyu: filesystem metadata
[07:03] <DaSkreech> Huntz: Sorry got a call
[07:03] <russlar> cllaudyu: it'll be really cool, once they get it right
[07:03] <cllaudyu> that crashes my system
[07:03] <Huntz> thats fine I was about to step out for a cig
[07:04] <russlar> cllaudyu: you can turn it off in system settings
[07:04] <DaSkreech> Huntz: Did you make the patch file?
[07:04] <cllaudyu> i'm doing that right now
[07:05] <Huntz> DaSkreech: well I asume it came in with the do-release-upgrade
[07:05] <DaSkreech> cllaudyu: do this in the terminal kquitapp plasma
[07:05] <Huntz> it doesnt say anything about making a patch
[07:05] <draik_> I just got a text and my phone won't stop vibrating. LOL.
[07:06] <DaSkreech> cllaudyu: then mkdir plasmabkup && mv ~/.kde/share/config/plasma* plasmabkup && plasma
[07:06] <DaSkreech> Huntz: No it's right above it in the page
[07:07] <DaSkreech> Huntz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[07:07] <cllaudyu> DaSkreech it doenst work man
[07:07] <cllaudyu> do not work
[07:08] <DaSkreech> cllaudyu: Where does it fail ?
[07:08] <russlar> DaSkreech: yeah. we've tried that already
[07:08] <DaSkreech> cllaudyu: Oh doh sorry wrong fix :)
[07:08] <russlar> plasma starts up, then crashes instantly
[07:08] <cllaudyu> hmmm
[07:09] <cllaudyu> how can i recover plasma to desktop again?
[07:09] <russlar> cllaudyu: what video card are you using?
[07:09] <DaSkreech> cllaudyu: are you afraid of the terminal ?
[07:09] <draik_> For anyone in KDE4.2 and using Kopete, any issues with connecting to MSN messenger?
[07:09] <cllaudyu> only ma windows are open
[07:09] <russlar> draik_: nope
[07:09] <DaSkreech> russlar: ooh good question
[07:09] <DaSkreech> draik_: try install libmsn
[07:10] <draik_> !libmsn
[07:10] <draik_> !info libmsn
[07:10] <russlar> oops
[07:10] <cllaudyu> i'l do a reboot
[07:10] <draik_> libmsn0.1 :)
[07:11] <DaSkreech> !info libmsn0.1
[07:11] <DaSkreech> Umm yeah :)
[07:11] <DaSkreech> that
[07:12] <draik_> LOL. It does exist because I just got it.
[07:12] <Huntz> DaSkreech: so I need to transfer that patch file text to a file manually?
[07:12] <mefisto__> ubottu is getting behind the times
[07:12] <DaSkreech> Huntz:
 Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[07:12] <DaSkreech> Don't know
[07:12] <draik_> butterly lights up for a sec and fails. Oh well.
[07:12] <DaSkreech> I just know that should work
[07:12] <mefisto__> oh I don't, ubottu
[07:13] <draik_> !botsnack
[07:13] <Texas> im tryin to instal wine through my adept manager  and it says it could not commit the changes any help
[07:13] <russlar> Texas: try it from terminal
[07:13] <DaSkreech> Huntz: copy that patch on the site to DistUpgradeControler.py.patch
[07:13] <russlar> Texas: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install wine
[07:14] <DaSkreech> mefisto__: No it's not in intrepid
[07:14] <draik_> Texas: Is there a reason why it cannot commit?
[07:14] <Texas> how exactly would i do that im very new
[07:14] <russlar> Texas: open a termial, and paste the command I just typed out
[07:14] <russlar> !aptitude
[07:14] <Texas> thank you
[07:17] <draik_> Can the Calendar widget on the desktop be changed to have the weeks start on a Sunday and the date format be MM-DD-YYYY?
[07:17] <mefisto__> DaSkreech: so how am I getting it? backports?
[07:17] <DaSkreech> You have KDE 4.2 ?
[07:17] <mefisto__> DaSkreech: yes
[07:18] <DaSkreech> That's where yo uare getting it from
[07:18] <Huntz> DaSkreech: so far it looks like its takin off
[07:18] <DaSkreech> apt-cache policy libmsn0.1
[07:18] <Texas> it didnt work ima coppy and paste what it said
[07:18] <DaSkreech> !paste | Texas
[07:18] <Texas> its not too large
[07:18] <draik_> DaSkreech: Was that for me? (libmsn0.1)
[07:18] <mefisto__> DaSkreech: kde4.2 is in backports now. I've removed the experimental ppa
[07:18] <russlar> DaSkreech: good to know
[07:18] <russlar> 4.2 is in backports now?
[07:19] <Texas> its just the last couple opf lines
[07:19] <DaSkreech> mefisto__: ah well I don't think that ubbotu indexes backports
[07:19] <Huntz> Ik I am gonna see if fiesty takes, be back with updates
[07:19] <DaSkreech> Texas: More than 2 ?
[07:19] <Texas> ahh i see
[07:20] <Texas> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:20] <Texas> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[07:20] <Texas> E: Couldn't rebuild package cache
[07:20] <russlar> Texas: quit adept first
[07:20] <Texas> thats god im dumb
[07:21] <Texas> thansk
[07:21] <draik_> DaSkreech: apt-cache policy libmsn0.1 results in this for candidate and installed:    4.0~beta4-0ubuntu1~intrepid1
[07:21] <cllaudyu> hey how can i stop this nepomukservices in terminal?
[07:22] <russlar> cllaudyu: ps -ef | grep nepomukservices
[07:22] <russlar> the sudo kill -9 that PID
[07:22] <DaSkreech> draik_: That's fine
[07:22] <draik_> DaSkreech: OK
[07:22] <cllaudyu> that kills it?
[07:23] <draik_> cllaudyu: Yup. You can also do 'sudo killall nepomukservices'
[07:23] <russlar> should
[07:24] <cllaudyu> i did that and got this: no proces whas terminated
[07:24] <Texas> now is wine a program that i have to open or will windows files automaticly work
[07:24] <draik_> Remove the 's' at the end. The process name has to match
[07:24] <russlar> they should work
[07:24] <draik_> Texas: Both.
[07:25] <DaSkreech> Texas: Check for Linux equivalents first
[07:25] <cllaudyu> "sudo kill all" worked
[07:26] <draik_> Texas: And "work" is too general of a term. You will want to consult the winehq per app. Some install and run, some install but won't run and others are pure garbage.
[07:26] <russlar> !work
[07:27] <draik_> russlar: Cool. Didn't know that existed.
[07:27] <cllaudyu> tell me that command to restore plasma back please
[07:27] <Texas> thanks everyone
[07:27] <draik_> !works for me
[07:28] <draik_> That's the other one I was thinking about for a long time now.
[07:28] <sensae> When I type into some programs, my entire screen flickers with black lines - anyone else have this problem?
[07:29] <DaSkreech> cllaudyu: kquitapp plasma && mv ~/.kde/share/config/plasma* plasmabkup && plasma
[07:29] <cllaudyu> kquitapp plasma && mv ~/.kde/share/config/plasma* plasmabkup && plasma
[07:29] <cllaudyu> Application plasma could not be found using service org.kde.plasma and path /MainApplication."
[07:29] <draik_> DaSkreech: Just over 66% done and I've recovered 9.15GB and counting.
[07:30] <cllaudyu> u saw that?
[07:30] <DaSkreech> That's the error?
[07:30] <cllaudyu> yea
[07:30] <russlar> plasma's not running
[07:30] <DaSkreech> ah
[07:30] <russlar> so kquitapp can't quit it
[07:30] <DaSkreech> cllaudyu:
[07:30] <DaSkreech> Just run plasma
[07:31] <cllaudyu> i need to boot again
[07:31] <cllaudyu> F%#K
[07:37] <draik_> I have to be at work in 12 hours. Thanks everyone that helped me and I hope to get most, if not all, of my data restored soon. G'night everyone.
[07:37] <russlar> draik_: that doesn't sound good.....
[07:37] <russlar> !clonzilla
[07:37] <draik_> russlar: What doesn't sound good?
[07:37] <russlar> data loss
[07:37] <draik_> Oh
[07:38] <russlar> check out clonzilla
[07:38] <russlar> get a spare drive, and make backups
[07:38] <draik_> Yeah, DaSkreech has been really cool about helping me out.
[07:38] <russlar> what happened?
[07:38] <draik_> russlar: I did a backup. The backup wasn't successful as it first appeared. Now, I'm trying to recover from a formatted drive.
[07:39] <draik_> Out of ~345GB, I appear to be recovering 10GB at this point.
[07:39] <DaSkreech> !info clonzilla
[07:39] <DaSkreech> !info clonezilla
[07:39] <russlar> draik_: have fun with that. :-(
[07:39] <draik_> russlar: It's been fun for the past 3 days.
[07:39] <russlar> DaSkreech: clonzilla.org
[07:39] <DaSkreech> Ok
[07:40] <draik_> Can clonezilla.org help with restoration?
[07:41] <russlar> not really
[07:41] <draik_> :(
[07:41] <russlar> it's a specialized build of debian, built to do backups and resotres from those backups
[07:41] <russlar> using a mix of partimage, and dd
[07:41] <russlar> and gzip
[07:42] <draik_> I've had the scan going on for 3 hours now and it is just over 66% done. I'll leave the desktop active and see what results I have in the morning.
[07:42] <draik_> G'night all and thanks again for everything.
[07:43] <russlar> good luck
[07:43] <draik_> Thanks
[08:06] <mefisto__> anyone else getting notes plasmoid with no background? I can type in the note, etc, but background is transparent
[08:07] <DaSkreech> Yeha I have that
[08:07] <rohan> i am using (k)ubuntu 8.04. somehow from a few days my splash on bootup ends prematurely, and i am presented with the init messages. when the messaged "Reading files needed to boot" appears, splash screen dies. how do i prevent that from happening?
[08:08]  * DaSkreech shrugs
[08:08] <mefisto__> DaSkreech: and it's always been like that in 4.2
[08:08] <DaSkreech> I actually prefer that :)
[08:08] <DaSkreech> mefisto__: I had the background till a few days ago
[08:09] <mefisto__> DaSkreech: yeah it's not too bad if I make the text white
[08:09] <DaSkreech> Well The background I have it's easy to read it on
[08:09] <DaSkreech> guess thats why I haven't complained
[08:10] <endboss> need help resurrecting my external 500GB - > http://pastebin.com/m18f1c130 is dmesg output.
[08:13] <dr_Willis> endboss,  that output says veyr littke other then 'usb device reset'
[08:13] <endboss> what information should i output then? it shows in BIOS, doesn't load to the normal media directories.
[08:14] <dr_Willis> did you just try to mount the thing?  give some details.
[08:15] <dr_Willis> when in doubt - try mounting it manually, what filesystems is it using? what does 'sudo fdisk -l' show about it.. .... :)
[08:16] <endboss> doesn't show up in fdisk, or qtparted. it was using fat, was going to convert to ext3
[08:16] <dr_Willis> Its possible its having issues being seen. or for some reasion the drive 'reset'  dmesg sort of imples that.. as if its having a hardware issue.
[08:17] <dr_Willis> is this a laptop-sized external usb drive? or selfpowered? or what exactly?
[08:17] <endboss> external USB drive. 500GB IDE.
[08:17] <dr_Willis> 2.5 inch? or 3.5? own  PowerSupply?
[08:18] <endboss> seagate barracuta 7200.10, own powersupply 3.5
[08:18] <mefisto__> rohan?
[08:18] <mefisto__> too late
[08:18] <endboss> have attempted plugging into a computer as the only drive, installs dont see it, but it shows up in BIOS.
[08:19] <dr_Willis> if bios shows it.. but 'sudo fdisk -l' dosent.. well theres somthing odd going on.
[08:20] <endboss> suggestion to fixing it? besides liquid nitrogen'ing it.
[08:20] <mefisto__> tried on another machine?
[08:21] <endboss> tried it on this Kubuntu 7.10, a win XP and a desktop.
[08:23] <mefisto__> endboss: sudo blkid   ?   probably the same as fdisk
[08:23] <endboss> yup, just local hdd.
[08:24] <endboss> lsusb doesn't list either
[08:24] <dr_Willis> You may want to switch USB cables/ports also.
[08:24] <dr_Willis> Somthing is very odd about it..  Hopefully the HD isent dead/semi-dead
[08:25] <endboss> i hope not, 500GB is a lot to lose... =/
[08:26] <endboss> okay i ran lsusb without it plugged in, then plugged it back in, it added one, Bus 003 Device 005: ID 040d:6204 VIA Technologies, Inc.
[08:27] <endboss> bad blocks maybe?
[08:30] <DaddyLonglegs> Adept manager doesn't list anything when I search for a package. Any ideas?
[08:30] <dr_Willis> rerun dmesg a few times as you plug it in.. you can watch it get seen/detected/scanned
[08:30] <dr_Willis> I would be backing that thing up ASAP :)
[08:31] <dr_Willis> I had a 500gb hd die on me the otehr day. with little warning
[08:31] <endboss> check repos are installed?
[08:31] <DaddyLonglegs> Yes. apt-get install works perfectly in shell.
[08:32] <endboss> why would it after detecting it only list this as a line?  [30150.828000]  sda: with nothing else after it?
[08:33] <DaddyLonglegs> Me endboss?
[08:33] <endboss> nah. dr_willis.
[08:34] <endboss> thinking im just gonna RMA it and get a new one.
[08:34] <Kw4h> hmm. Since KDE 4.2 ark keeps starting up when I boot up my laptop
[08:34] <Kw4h> and then it crashes :/
[08:35] <endboss> in warranty till 2012...when the world ends.
[08:36] <mefisto__> endboss: any jumpers on it?
[08:36] <DaSkreech> DaddyLonglegs: sudo sudo update-apt-xapian-index
[08:36] <DaddyLonglegs> DaSkreech: I did it, doesn't work though :(
[08:37] <DaSkreech> :-(
[08:37] <endboss> none.
[08:38] <yaa_> taki-taki o
[08:38] <a> who know how 2 use qsopcast? it doesnt open the mplayer auto...
[08:38] <yaa_> hi daskreech
[08:38] <a> thx
[08:38] <yaa_> god bless u
[08:38] <DaSkreech> hi yaa_
[08:38] <DaSkreech> Thanks
[08:39] <endboss> should i try adding a jumper/
[08:39] <dr_Willis> endboss,  Yep - may be a good idea.  mine always die after the warrentee.
[08:40] <dr_Willis> i never keep the papers either. :()
[08:40] <endboss> heh i have boxes and papers for everything...
[08:40] <dr_Willis> I got a whole ROOM of box's and papers.. but i never know what is for what.. so i toss most of it lately
[08:40] <dr_Willis> I got a 1.5 TB external USB HD for $120 on sale a few weeks ago
[08:41] <packrat> saw a TB for 69$.
[08:41] <packrat> internal, and poor. =/
[08:41] <DaSkreech> That's crazy
[08:41] <packrat> That's Fry's for ya.
[08:53] <DarkSmoke> anybody is getting this errror on wine
[08:53] <DarkSmoke> err:process:__wine_kernel_init boot event wait timed out
[08:54] <DarkSmoke> and when running winecfg somebody gets unable to comunicate with the mount manager
[09:11] <kiran> i have a problem with web browsing.. I am using gprs service. i sucessfully connectrd my system to network using wvdial
[09:12] <kiran> but cant browse through konquerer
[09:14] <keymone> hi folks! i want to install vim-full but it for some reason wants me to install vim-gnome(why?!?!) and it for some reason depends on ruby 1.8.7(WHY?!?!?!)
[09:15] <keymone> and i cant upgrade to ruby 1.8.7 because it messes up rails application
[09:15] <keymone> any ideas how to install vim-full without vim-gnome?
[09:17] <kiran> i have a problem with web browsing.. I am using gprs service. i sucessfully connectrd my system to network using wvdial   but cant browse through konquerer
[09:18] <keymone> kiran: what exactly is the problem? it does not resolve domain names nor it does not connect to web site?
[09:18] <keymone> try ping google.com in terminal
[09:20] <kiran> i trie ping.. it works fine.. i can get the site using www-browser
[09:21] <kiran> the error showing is
[09:21] <kiran> An error occurred while loading http://www.google.com/:
[09:21] <kiran> Could not connect to host http://www.google.com/
[09:21] <keymone> try tracepath google.com
[09:23] <kiran> i only have problem with Konqurer browser...
[09:23] <keymone> does firefox work?
[09:23] <keymone> maybe you have to use some proxy?
[09:25] <kiran> i dont have firefox installed.. i am now installing it..
[09:25] <kiran> but i have problem with konquerer .. can anybody help me...
[09:28]  * DS-Away is away: Not Here
[09:28]  * DarkSmoke is back.
[09:33] <noren> hi all
[09:34] <DaddyLonglegs> Is there any ways to configure kopete notifications to pop up on the bottom corner of the screen, rather than the middle top?
[09:34] <noren> everytime i log in different set of startup programs starts up how can i control them
[09:35] <SandGorgon> quit
[09:38] <rohdef> I just upgraded a lot of kde packages and now KDM can't find KDE4, what do I do?
[09:39] <blueraven1> I just don't know where to ask this..I have 3 partitions on one drive...one for ubuntu, one for vista, one for win 7..I can't seem to see anything on other partitions in any operating system..only in its own partition..how do I look across partitions?
[09:40] <swedala> blueraven1: mount them?
[09:40] <rohdef> blueraven1, in win you can install drivers, in Linux it depens on the ntfs used
[09:40] <blueraven1> oh, how do I mount a partition?
[09:40] <blueraven1> I mean in windows
[09:41] <blueraven1> I can I mount something that doesn't even show up?
[09:41] <BlueEagle> blueraven1: You would have to ask in #windows for that I guess.
[09:41] <rohdef> blueraven1, in windows you need the drivers, I used to use an ext2 package (ext3 is backward compatible) and use that, it had an component for the control panel
[09:42] <BlueEagle> blueraven1: To mount ext*-partitions in windows you'll need a 3rd party driver. I've had some success previously with googling for: windows ext2 driver
[09:42] <spitfire__> ext2ifs
[09:42] <spitfire__> it is called
[09:42] <BlueEagle> thankyou spitfire__.
[09:42] <spitfire__> as far as i recall
[09:42] <BlueEagle> spitfire__: that looks quite familiar.
[09:43] <heinkel_112> does anyone have bright ideas how I can mount a memory card (XD) in an O2 Micro card reader on my computer?
[09:43] <heinkel_112> it does not seem to get mounted by kubuntu automagics
[09:43] <spitfire__> heinkel_111: does it appear in lspci?
[09:44] <blueraven1> blueeagle-once I install ext2 other partitions will just appear?
[09:44] <spitfire__> The card reader
[09:44] <heinkel_112> spitfire__: yes
[09:44] <spitfire__> heinkel_111: hmmm
[09:44] <heinkel_112> 0a:01.3 Mass storage controller: O2 Micro, Inc. Integrated MS/xD Controller (rev 01)
[09:44] <spitfire__> heinkel_111: dmesg shows something, after you plug it in?
[09:45] <heinkel_112> spitfire__: not that I can see
[09:45] <heinkel_112> the last 14 lines are related to the CPU cores firing up
[09:46] <heinkel_112> before tat it is related to the wlan firing up, a long time ago
[09:46] <spitfire__> So it's not mounting problem.
[09:46] <spitfire__> hmm
[09:46] <spitfire__> and fdisk -l ?
[09:47] <spitfire__> Any sdb or sdc?
[09:48]  * DaddyLonglegs looks at his watch
[09:50] <swedala> waste of time to look at your watch :P
[09:50] <heinkel_112> spitfire__: fdisk -l just give me "cannot open /dev/sda" I think this might be because my laptop hd is encrypted?
[09:50] <spitfire__> maybe
[09:50] <heinkel_112> sdb, sdc... how do I check for this?
[09:50] <spitfire__> heinkel_111: is this card readable anywhere else?
[09:51] <spitfire__> heinkel_111: sorry
[09:51] <spitfire__> sudo fdisk -l
[09:51] <heinkel_112> yes, it worked on my windows pc at work
[09:51] <spitfire__> if there is sdb or sdc it might be your card
[09:51] <rohdef> how do I get kde4 back into kdm?
[09:52] <heinkel_112> spitfire__: I get only /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2, /dev/sda5
[09:53] <heinkel_112> I have read cards with this reader previously but maybe a different kind of cards
[09:53] <heinkel_112> could be a problem with the driver?
[09:53] <heinkel_112> I will check the memory card from my other camera
[09:53]  * dr_Willis wakes up
[09:53] <dr_Willis> sd cards on a laptop?
[09:54] <rohdef> don't anyone know what package I have to reconfigure to get KDE4 into kdm?
[09:54] <heinkel_112> good morning dr_Willis! no, it is an XD card I am trying to read
[09:55] <dr_Willis> in a  laptop built in slot reader?
[09:55] <spitfire__> heinkel_111: how are other cards?
[09:55] <heinkel_112> dr_Willis: yes
[09:56] <heinkel_112> spitfire__: dr_Willis: I tried to insert the SD card from my other camera and it loaded right away, no problem
[09:56] <dr_Willis> theres some cases where specific built-in reader-slots dont always work..  most do work with 'sd' cards - its with other type cards it can be an issue
[09:56] <dr_Willis> If you got a xd -> sd adaptor id try that
[09:56] <heinkel_112> don't think I have any such device
[09:57] <dr_Willis> the built in multicard readers are often non-standard in many ways. sadly
[09:57] <spitfire__> heinkel_111: you've got an answer.
[09:57] <dr_Willis> too many variants on the things..  Mine do NOT show up as /dev/sd##   theyare like /dev/mmc#######
[09:57] <spitfire__> Try to format it somewhere else.
[09:57] <heinkel_112> I have a pluggable usb card reader somwhere
[09:57] <spitfire__> heinkel_111: ^^
[09:57] <spitfire__> try it
[09:57] <spitfire__> it might help
[09:57] <dr_Willis> thats often the best  to use. :) a usb reader should work
[09:58] <spitfire__> For example my external sd reader works far better than built-in
[09:58] <heinkel_112> spitfire__: thanks for helping but I wouldn't want to do the the formatting before I can get the pictures I took off the card :-)
[09:58] <spitfire__> heinkel_111: right;)
[09:59]  * heinkel_112 goes searching for usb cardreader in box of miscellaneous technical gizmos
[10:08]  * DS-Away is away: Not Here
[10:08]  * heinkel_112 finds the external usb cardreader does not support xd type cards
[10:09]  * DS-Away is back.
[10:11] <tron_71> hi
[10:12] <tron_71> anyone using kubuntu 8.10 with an ATI graphic card?
[10:12] <Tm_T> tron_71: many of us
[10:12] <Tm_T> DS-Away: stop using public away
[10:12] <tron_71> and it works well for you? I mean, also 3d effects?
[10:13] <Tm_T> tron_71: for some people it does (I don't use it myself currently)
[10:13] <tron_71> because, they seem to work, but not so performantly
[10:13] <Tm_T> tron_71: which KDE version exactly?
[10:13] <tron_71> I read on many forums that ati cards do not work too well (not like nvidia)
[10:14] <tron_71> I'm using kde 4 that comes with kubuntu 8.10
[10:15] <heinkel_111> oops
[10:15]  * heinkel_111 just managed to push the usb port so it fell into the computer cabinet :(
[10:16] <Tm_T> heinkel_111: remember to power off before poking in
[10:16] <Tm_T> tron_71: ah, I'd recommend to enable backports and update
[10:16] <heinkel_111> looks like I forgot to tighten the screw that should secure it the last time I was ehh srewing up something in there
[10:16] <Tm_T> tron_71: might, or might not, to improve
[10:17] <tron_71> Tm_T: backports from the 9 version?
[10:17] <Tm_T> tron_71: 8.10 repositories
[10:18] <tron_71> mhh... I'm missing something: since I'm using 8.10 why enabling 8.10 backports repositories?
[10:18] <Tm_T> tron_71: so you get stuff that are backported TO 8.10 (:
[10:18] <tron_71> OK, so backported to 8,10 from 9, right?
[10:18] <Tm_T> tron_71: something like that yes
[10:19]  * DS-Away is away: Not Here
[10:19] <Tm_T> tron_71: just remember, backports are not supported by canonical
[10:19] <tron_71> OK, I'm about to try... but is it a safe choice? :)
[10:20] <Tm_T> should be
[10:20] <Cruster> hi, when i copy files to ntfs partitions, the files are copied, but dolphin reports: cannot change permissions for [filename]. is there any workaround?
[10:22] <tron_71> so it's just about adding
[10:22] <tron_71> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu intrepid-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[10:22] <tron_71> to sources.list
[10:22] <Tm_T> yes
[10:25] <tron_71> OK, I see there's also a menu choice in synaptic
[10:25] <tron_71> but in that case, If I do it from synaptic, will sources.list be updated to?
[10:25] <tron_71> so that also adept will use them?
[10:26] <Cruster> tron_71: sure
[10:29] <blackflag> !snmp
[10:29] <tron_71> ok, it looks there are lots of updates for kde4 but nothing about ati drivers though...
[10:30] <yaa_> i even do not know why do i hate all of you so much))
[10:30] <tron_71> and what about -proposed instead?
[10:30] <tron_71> is it good to have also those repositories?
[10:41] <yaa_> hail aptitude
[10:41] <yaa_> death to yum
[10:45] <Idzme> i have installed kubuntu and ubuntu desktop, but when i log into kde I get a wallpaper of grey squares and a fullscreen folderview
[10:45] <Idzme> were can <I acces the desktop settings to change the wallpaper??
[10:46] <Idzme> in system-settings nothing can be changed
[10:48] <cllaudyu> !swear
[10:48] <cllaudyu> !irc
[10:49] <cllaudyu> !guidelines
[10:55] <Azazel_Pazuzu> hi
[10:56] <Azazel_Pazuzu> windows is shit :)
[10:56] <dr_Willis> 'windows is'  - 'the zen of linux'
[10:56] <dr_Willis> computers are, we be, :)
[10:57] <dr_Willis> apt-get install peace of mind
[10:57] <Azazel_Pazuzu> dr_Willias - windows is bug ang bug :)
[11:02] <Tm_T> Azazel_Pazuzu: please no random bashing here
[11:02] <Azazel_Pazuzu> I don"t understand, Tm_T
[11:03] <Tm_T> Azazel_Pazuzu: this is channel for Kubuntu support, not ranting about Windows
[11:03] <tron_71> by the way, I found nice explainations about backports and proposed here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[11:04] <Azazel_Pazuzu> Tm_T - I Hate Windows and I like Kubuntu :)
[11:05] <Tm_T> Azazel_Pazuzu: yes, but this is not the channel to tell that, sorry (:
[11:06] <Azazel_Pazuzu> Tm_T - ok :) I stop speak about this :)
[11:06] <Tm_T> thank you son
[11:06] <Tm_T> and feel free to ask if you have any support related questions (:
[11:09] <sheebubu> Hello, has anybody an idea why for some programs I see two icons (one low-res, one high-res) when I use krunner?
[11:10] <Tm_T> sheebubu: you have two versions of that application installed?
[11:11] <sheebubu> I am not sure, its affects for example pidgin, amarok and others which have been installed using synaptic.
[11:11] <sheebubu> I suspect it might be left-over configuration files.
[11:12] <yaa_> hei nachalnik
[11:12] <Tm_T> sheebubu: leftover .desktop files
[11:14] <sheebubu> only see one for pidgin in /usr/share/kde4
[11:15] <Azazel_Pazuzu> Tm_T - son? You are silly :P
[11:15] <Tm_T> Azazel_Pazuzu: silly grand(grand)mother yes (:
[11:16] <Azazel_Pazuzu> Tm_T - what country you are?
[11:16] <Tm_T> !ot | Azazel_Pazuzu
[11:17] <Tm_T> meet you there (:
[11:27] <sena> hi everyone, how are called the linux kernel build and header files
[11:30] <dr_Willis> Hmm
[11:30] <dr_Willis> i forget. :) but ive seen that befor..
[11:30] <dr_Willis> !kernel-sources
[11:31] <dr_Willis> kernel-headers I think
[11:31] <sena> anybody? in the repositories are build essentials and linux header ot smth like that but i want to download them and install them manually
[11:31] <dr_Willis> !find kernel-headers
[11:31] <Tm_T> !info kernel-headers
[11:31] <Tm_T> ah bah
[11:31] <sena> Tm_T:  : ))
[11:32] <dr_Willis> !find headers
[11:32] <dr_Willis> aha - 'linux-headers' seems close
[11:32] <Tm_T> indeed
[11:32] <jussi01> !info linux-headers-2.6.25-2-386
[11:32] <sena> ubottu: 10x
[11:33] <sena> i will try that
[11:33] <Tm_T> sena: what this 10x meant?
[11:33] <dr_Willis> !bot
[11:33] <sena> ubottu: it means tenx
[11:33] <sena> ubottu: thanks
[11:34] <fireball_> hey all.
[11:36] <fireball_> I want to know where kubuntu keeps its list of installed package files, can any one help me please
[11:36] <fireball_> ?
[11:36] <dr_Willis> !clone
[11:36] <dr_Willis>  aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages
[11:37] <dr_Willis> will make a list :)
[11:37] <dr_Willis> or theres other ways to do it.
[11:37] <fireball_> i appreciate it, but there's the problem. . .
[11:37] <fireball_> the above command states zero intalled programs
[11:38] <fireball_> i've installed kde3.5 over intrepid
[11:38] <dr_Willis> could be a typo.. or it may need a sudo.  i
[11:38] <dr_Willis> im not on a ubuntu system, at the moment to test
[11:38] <fireball_> now package managers are confused
[11:38] <Tm_T> fireball_: from where?
[11:38] <fireball_> hang on
[11:39] <fireball_> http://ppa.launchpad.net/kb9vqf/ubuntu/
[11:39] <Tm_T> fireball_: talk to the author then (:
[11:40] <fireball_> Any more imediate ideas?
[11:40] <sena> fireball_: have you tried dpkg --get-selections or dpkg --get-selections > file to write the output to a file
[11:41] <fireball_> ie, where does kubuntu normally keeps it's list?
[11:41] <Tm_T> fireball_: sources list?
[11:42] <Tm_T> fireball_: anyway, all mess caused by third party packages are up to user and author
[11:42] <fireball_> that gave the list of installed packages, but not all
[11:43] <fireball_> ie, keep came with kde3.5, how do i remove it?
[11:43] <fireball_> if i can nut that out, i'm in buisness
[11:43] <Tm_T> fireball_: remove kdelibs4 package(s)
[11:45] <fireball_> found them ok
[11:45] <fireball_> this will fix the problem?
[11:46] <fireball_> yeah ok, looks like it, lets see.
[11:48] <fireball_> E: kio-umountwrapper-kde3: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 2
[11:49] <fireball_> E: knetworkconf-kde3: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 2
[11:49] <fireball_> now synaptic is "trying to recover". . . .
[11:51] <fireball_> ok, it seems i can't get rid of the "un-mount wrapper". is this a problem before i reboot please?
[11:52] <pidus> i just uploade to kde 4.2 but all of my widgets stopped working on it..it now says unable to load widget for every widget that i try. Does anybody know a fix to it?
[11:52] <pidus> *upgraded
[11:53] <fireball_> yep, kde3.5, then (thanks Tm_T - - [22:43] <Tm_T> fireball_: remove kdelibs4 package(s)
[11:54] <fireball_> imean, install kde3.5
[11:54] <dr_Willis> You may want to start with clean.new kde settings pidus  (sucks i know) but  i dont know of any other fix's to try
[11:54] <fireball_> thanks Tm_T, you guys are great
[11:54] <fish__> does anybody could help me? Im a beginner and I have a problem with envy
[11:55] <pidus> dr_Willis: and i how do i do that? i mean how do i start with clean new kde settings?..take a backup of .kde and restart?
[11:55] <dr_Willis> envy should only be used as a last resort. :)
[11:55] <dr_Willis> pidus,  move the .kde* dirs somewhere like a BackupDIr.. then log back in to kde
[11:55] <pidus> dr_Willis: ok thanks..will try that
[11:55] <dr_Willis> pidus, i had to do that last time i tried the upgrade stuff.. some settings were just messed up
[11:56] <fireball_> just a a thought, i use Simple Backup to backup to my (i hate to say it) NTFS drive, then if all else fails, I'm always sweet
[11:56] <pidus> dr_Willis: as i think of it, the same thing happened with me when i moved from 3.5 to 4.1
[11:56] <pidus> dr_Willis: thanks..i'll try that
[11:56] <dr_Willis> pidus,  yep.  had similer issues with gnome and other upgrades as well
[11:56] <fireball_> ciao all
[11:56] <dr_Willis> plus its always nice to see what 'defaults' the devs decided we need
[11:57] <pidus> dr_Willis: yeah that's true
[11:59] <fish__> I was trying to install drivers of my ge force 8600 gt, I have downloaded drivers from nvidia site but after installation I couldn't run X server I had an error like "no screens found" so I thought I can do it by envy
[11:59] <tr_hawk> Howdy!
[11:59] <fish__> and I have installed envy-core and qt but it won't start
[11:59] <Tm_T> !nvidia | fish__
[12:00] <fish__> ok thanks
[12:02] <fish__> Once I did install by Hardware Drivers and it crashed too >.<
[12:03] <dr_Willis> for my Nvidia cards. I just let the jockey-kde app handle the drivers
[12:03] <pidus> dr_Willis: it didn't help :-(
[12:03] <dr_Willis> !find jockey
[12:08] <pidus> having upgraded to 4.2, is there a way to revert back to 4.1?
[12:09] <fish__> ok I will try do it by jockey once again, if it crashed how may I return to the previous settings and run xserver again?
[12:09] <fish__> I was always reinstalling ubuntu ^^
[12:09] <dr_Willis> you could learn some linux basics. :)
[12:09] <dr_Willis> remove the xorg.conf file.. and restart X and it should try to pick sane defaults
[12:09] <devilsadvocate> pidus, any specific reason?
[12:09] <dr_Willis> reinstalling is 'windows' thinking
[12:10] <devilsadvocate> pidus, ah, widgets
[12:10] <pidus> devilsadvocate: having moved to 4.2, widgets don't seem to work any more.
[12:10] <pidus> devilsadvocate: yes.
[12:10] <fish__> ok ^^ I was using windows for many years so yeah im thinking in windows way ^^
[12:11] <fish__> I need some time :P
[12:11] <devilsadvocate> pidus, widgets as in plasma stuff? does the panel and menu atleast work?
[12:12] <pidus> devilsadvocate: yes widgets as in plasma stuff..and yes panel and menu work
[12:12] <Laeborg> how can i get my computer to disable the mic in my monitor (build-in mic in my laptop) and use the mic in my headphones insdead?
[12:13] <devilsadvocate> pidus, then most probably its some stale lock/ setting/ some silly thing like that. perhaps there is a way to reset all the settings to initial ones... yu could try making a new user and seeing if things work there
[12:13] <pidus> i tried doing that, taking a backup of settings of .kde and starting afresh
[12:13] <pidus> but it didn't help
[12:14] <devilsadvocate> i dont know if everything is in .kde. akonadi, for example has stuff in ~/.local
[12:14] <pidus> devilsadvocate: i asked somebody at #kde and i was told "sounds like you plasmoids aren't compiled against your version of plasma"
[12:14] <Laeborg> !alsa
[12:15] <pidus> devilsadvocate: and when i was asked for a fix to it, i was told " either someone must provide you with working packages, or you must compile them yourself"
[12:15] <devilsadvocate> pidus, strange. did your upgrade complete successfully
[12:15] <pidus> devilsadvocate: now that's a tall order...for i have little time to do that for now
[12:15] <pidus> devilsadvocate: yes
[12:15] <devilsadvocate> pidus, kubuntu´s packages work. is the issue with some specific widget.. possibly one that was missed?
[12:16] <pidus> devilsadvocate: i tried - minimise window/dashboard/comic/dictionary.....none of them worked
[12:16] <devilsadvocate> hmm
[12:17] <pidus> devilsadvocate: should i try doing the same thing with .local
[12:17] <pidus> devilsadvocate: are you on 4.2?
[12:17] <devilsadvocate> tbh, i dont know whats in universe and main. ive been using kde-experimental and have had the smoothest upgrades i´ve had on linux ever
[12:17] <devilsadvocate> pidus, dont remove .local. i dont know what else it has. instead, add a new user (assuming its your computer) and see. if it works, then you can work backwards
[12:18] <pidus> devilsadvocate: ok..i'll try doing it...but have you tried kde 4.2 on kubuntu? and if yes..did the widgets work for you?
[12:19] <devilsadvocate> pidus, yes, and they work. but the repo i have been using is _not_ universe
[12:20] <devilsadvocate> my kde packages come from the kubuntu ppa which has kde-experimental, the packages which should reach main/universe eventually. it worked fine in the early days of 4.2 as well
[12:20] <Tm_T> devilsadvocate: not main/universe but backports, already there
[12:21] <devilsadvocate> pidus, backports , it seems
[12:21] <pidus> i have backports enabled for updates, though universe is also enabled
[12:22] <devilsadvocate> pidus, it will get from backports if both are enabled. it basically gets the latest available
[12:22] <devilsadvocate> thanks Tm_T
[12:22] <Tm_T> np
[12:22] <pidus> devilsadvocate: ok i'll try creating a new user and see what happens...thanks for the suggestion
[12:23] <devilsadvocate> np
[12:34] <pidus> devilsadvocate: i tried creating new user and doing it but the same prob
[12:34] <pidus> so, is there a way to revert to 4.1?
[12:44] <santosh> hi
[12:45] <max9> hi guys
[12:53] <Shura> Hi ! I have a question : I tried to set my TV as a second monitor, worked fine but I don't really need it so I remove my TV. It has created a second activity corresponding to my second monitor, but now I don't have it anymore, but I can't delete the second activity. How can I delete this activity I don't need anymore ?
[12:57] <dr_Willis> second activity?
[12:59] <Shura> (Yeah I'm not very clear)
[12:59] <Shura> http://shurafr.free.fr/capt008.png
[13:00] <Shura> I want to remove the the right one, but I can't
[13:02] <mikkoc> hi, i've just installed jaunty with kde4. The problem is that the desktop won't load
[13:02] <mikkoc> i tried removing the plasma configuration files, but no luck
[13:03] <mikkoc> basically i can see the splash screen, and when it's finished only the background remains
[13:05] <mikkoc> any help?
[13:39] <StR|Sangreal> hi i have a flesh problem with my boot
[13:39] <StR|Sangreal> kubuntu usually boots without seing tty
[13:39] <StR|Sangreal> tty prompt
[13:39] <StR|Sangreal> but my bootscreen interrupts and after having waited for a certain period
[13:40] <StR|Sangreal> it claims that boot files are not the same as backup files and that it wont fix it by itself... thats all, after that it continues ordinarily
[13:48] <bartskde2> my phone won't show up in kdebluetooth, works in gnome any ideas?
[13:49] <zgmf-x20a> hey all, having an issue in evolution, why do all my rss feeds no longer have a window underneath so i can see the material in the feed???
[13:53] <bartskde2> never mind. saw that the developers are working on getting it fixed. just need to use gnome with my phone for now.
[14:16] <norenmmm> hi all
[14:16] <norenmmm> is there a good data recovery which i ccan run in kubuntu to get back data from ext3 portion of my harddisk
[14:17] <bazhang> !recover | norenmmm
[14:21] <bazhang> nice :)
[14:21] <ryanakca> There, much better :)
[14:21] <bazhang> hehe much :)
[14:25] <casimodo> hello
[14:26] <Cupper> maybe this is better place to ask :) how do i enable opengl support with nvidia drivers?
[14:26] <casimodo> c'est ma première fois d'utiliser cette application, pouvez vous me renseigner sur son utilité ?
[14:27] <bazhang> !fr
[14:32] <joerg> Hi
[14:33] <raven244> hi
[14:33] <akventure> i've got a question
[14:33] <tuxi> akventure, just ask
[14:33] <akventure> there's a folder on my desktop that i can't seem to find...
[14:34] <akventure> i want to delete it... it has 1.9gb of files in it
[14:34] <tuxi> have you emptied the trash?
[14:34] <akventure> when i go to save new downloads i can see the folder on the desktop and navigate into it and its subfolders....
[14:34] <akventure> but it's not visible in any of my workspaces
[14:35] <akventure> i have emptied the trash
[14:35] <tuxi> have you opened Dolphin and navigated to the Desktop folder?
[14:35] <akventure> i'm actually using ubuntu hardy heron... not kubuntu
[14:35] <akventure> i'm nof familiar w/dolphin
[14:36] <akventure> *not
[14:36] <tuxi> OK, then open nautilus and navigate to ~/Desktop
[14:36] <tuxi> or open a terminal and "cd ~/Desktop"
[14:36] <sany> hi
[14:38] <tuxi> check the path you're saving downloads to in firefox
[14:42] <tuxi> akventure, can you post the screenshot somewhere?
[14:43] <bazhang> !imagebin
[14:44] <tuxi> bazhang, ty
[14:44]  * tuxi is new to this channel
[14:44] <bazhang> thats a new factoid :)
[14:44] <tuxi> 'tis indeed
[14:45] <StR|Sangreal> pls i want to install spacer plasmoid from source code located in following directory /home/vladislav/Pracovná plocha/Actualities/SW/widgets/Panelspacer_from_svn_pour_kdelook-tmp
[14:45] <StR|Sangreal> what are the commands pls?
[14:45] <bazhang> StR|Sangreal, what plasmoid
[14:45] <StR|Sangreal> spacer is a plasmoid to add separators to your panels andor docks
[14:46] <StR|Sangreal> but its irrelevent, i cannot install from source, pls how is that done?
[14:46] <tuxi> StR|Sangreal, I assume you're wanting the installation commands -- is there a README or INSTALL file in the tar?
[14:46] <bazhang> StR|Sangreal, its not irrelevant if you want assistance
[14:47] <StR|Sangreal> sorry...
[14:47] <tuxi> akventure, Unix/Linux is case sensitive -- try "cd ~/Desktop"
[14:47] <bazhang> 4.1 or 4.2
[14:48] <StR|Sangreal> i need the commands since my knowledge level is yet stuck on more or less mouse commands
[14:48] <bazhang> more info such as version of kde4, link to plasmoid, etc would be helpful
[14:49] <tuxi> akventure, then "ls" (for list) and look for the directory
[14:49] <tuxi> that is the one you want to delete
[14:49] <StR|Sangreal> aha
[14:49] <StR|Sangreal> kde42, kernel.28.12, notebook centrino1 duo, amd64 kubuntu intrepid ibex
[14:50] <SiPuli> Hello, how can i get opengl support for nvidia?
[14:50] <StR|Sangreal> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=89304&forumpage=1&PHPSESSID=cae
[14:54] <SiPuli> ?
[14:55] <tuxi> SiPuli, what kind of support?  Do you have the proprietary kernel module enabled?
[14:57] <SiPuli> I mean, when i try to run one game, it says "No OpenGL enabled""
[14:58] <tuxi> SiPuli, you probably aren't running the proprietary kernel module
[14:58] <SiPuli> means?
[14:59] <SiPuli> err:wgl:has_opengl OpenGL support is disabled.
[14:59] <SiPuli> this is error i get
[14:59] <tuxi> on the traditional menu go to System/Hardware Drivers -- this should show you what proprietary drivers you can use
[15:00] <SiPuli> now i get it, im running nvidia beta drivers cause they work better :/
[15:00] <SiPuli> so, in order to play i have to use those drivers?
[15:00] <tuxi> maybe not, try "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and tell me if there is a Section "Module" which has Load "glx" in it
[15:02] <SiPuli> Yes there is
[15:03] <tuxi> OK
[15:04] <tuxi> do you have nvidia-settings installed ?
[15:04] <SiPuli> yes
[15:06] <tuxi> see if there is an enable glx in that
[15:07] <tuxi> I'm working at an ati machine atm but I can look at my nvidia machine when necessary
[15:08] <SiPuli> cant find it
[15:09] <draik_> How do I use unrar on an archive?
[15:10] <SiPuli> unrar e archive.rar
[15:11] <tuxi> SiPuli, I've run out of ideas
[15:11] <draik_> Does it have to be rar?
[15:11] <draik_> The archive is *.7z
[15:11] <SiPuli> tuxi, there is that OpenGL settings, but it has only Enable Flipping and Sync VBlank
[15:11] <bazhang> !7zip
[15:12] <draik_> Ark wouldn't open it :( Said nothing inside or nothing to extract.
[15:12] <SiPuli> is it possible to add mode "opengl" to xorg.conf?
[15:12] <el-perrillo> Has anybody been able to connect trough a VPN using Ubuntu?
[15:12] <el-perrillo> or kubuntu
[15:14] <draik_> Thanks SiPuli. Got it :)
[15:16] <tuxi> SiPuli, I've pasted my laptop's xorg.conf at http://paste.ubuntu.com/121440/
[15:19] <SiPuli> http://paste.ubuntu.com/121441/ here's mine, i hope you can find something out of ordinary
[15:21] <tuxi> el-perrillo, I haven't tried a VPN in a while (maybe a few versions back)
[15:25] <tuxi> SiPuli, I find it interesting that I have no Module section in my xorg.conf but I still have OpenGL working on the laptop
[15:31] <Assurbanipal> hi guys,how can i set file/folder/prinrter sharing in kde 4,2? i run kubuntu 8,10
[15:43] <SiPuli> tuxi: i found something from error log: err:wgl:has_opengl Failed to load libGL: libGL.so.1: jaettua objektitiedostoa ei voi avata: Tiedostoa tai hakemistoa ei ole
[15:43] <SiPuli> basically it says that there is no such file. And there is
[15:44] <SiPuli> and i just realized that this is wine problem, not kubuntu :)
[15:47] <tuliohm> hello everybody, im with kubuntu 8.10 with kde 4.1.4 on my laptop
[15:48] <tuliohm> and i want to know if the 4.2 release of kde is really stable
[15:48] <tuliohm> someone is using it?
[15:49] <fuzzy> guys i need help, i have just installed a kde and my desktop are in the window i want to make it default like on the gnome
[15:49] <tuliohm> fuzzy, my desktop are in the window?
[15:49] <mofux> tuliohm: i'm using it and 4.2 for me seems to be much more stable then 4.1.2 at least (never tried 4.1.4 though)
[15:50] <BoomKING> Can anyone help me , if i install ubuntu The wireless and cabled network works , but then if i restart it stops working , but if i put in the live cd and boot with live mode it works ???? any ideas
[15:50] <BoomKING> kubuntu*
[15:50] <tuliohm> mofux, hmm, i ll try 4.2
[15:50] <fuzzy> tuliohm: yes, the desktop are in the widget called "Folder View" i want to make it normal
[15:50] <mofux> yes, give it a try, it rockz
[15:50] <StR|Sangreal> pls an urgent case...
[15:50] <tuliohm> mofux, im having a problem with hotkeys on kde4
[15:50] <tuliohm> you have this problem?
[15:50] <tuliohm> :X
[15:50] <mofux> think some of these were fixed in 4.2
[15:50] <mofux> i can use "print" again to make a screenshot f.e.
[15:51] <fuzzy> any help?
[15:51] <StR|Sangreal> i have been changing themes and suddenly desktop effects, optacity, switch window...
[15:51] <tuliohm> fuzzy, i dont think kde 4 have a normal desktop, but i cant affirm
[15:51] <StR|Sangreal> they disappeared
[15:51] <mofux> fuzzy, you can set a folderview as your background
[15:51] <mofux> then point it to your desktop folder
[15:51] <mofux> /home/fuzzy/Desktop or something
[15:52] <tuliohm> ~/Desktop :)
[15:52] <mofux> right ;)
[15:52] <mofux> you can set the background as folderviwe (in 4.2. this is) in the appereance settings (right click menu on the desktop)
[15:53] <mofux> there is a combobox "Type:"
[15:53] <mofux> choose folderview there
[15:54] <BoomKING> Can anyone help me , if i install ubuntu The wireless and cabled network works , but then if i restart it stops working , but if i put in the live cd and boot with live mode it works ???? any ide
[15:54] <BoomKING> ides*
[15:54] <fuzzy> mofux: in the type are only Image, Slideshow and color
[15:54] <mofux> fuzzy: there are 2 comboxes
[15:55] <mofux> both titled "type"
[15:55] <mofux> in the upper one you should be able to set the folderview
[15:55] <fuzzy> mofux: yes yes, ive found it
[15:55] <mofux> what version of kde are you running?
[15:55] <mofux> fuzzy, ok cool
[15:55] <mofux> is it doing what you want? :P
[15:56] <fuzzy> mofux: ty a bounch
[15:56] <mofux> fuzzy: np
[15:56] <fuzzy> mofux: yes ... thanks bro
[15:57] <ReiKn> Hello! Just came to ask from kde 4.2 users about boot times... it takes me one minute from the login until the desktop is usable, wondering if it's just something wrong with my setup or something usual...
[15:58]  * rhinux is away: Zur Zeit abwesend
[15:58] <Fonix> has any1 had a problem where, after a clean install of kubuntu 8.10, the wireless and lan works fine, then after first restart, doesnt work anymore? and know how to fix?
[15:59] <tuxi> ReiKn, what do you have starting up?  My startup times seem to be less although I haven't timed them
[16:03] <Fonix> has any1 had a problem where, after a clean install of kubuntu 8.10, the wireless and lan works fine, then after first restart, doesnt work anymore? and know how to fix? worked fine in 7.10 with gnome.
[16:03] <tuxi> Fonix, which network adapter(s) do you have?
[16:03] <Fonix> wlan0 eth0 and pan0
[16:03] <Fonix> dunno what pan0 is
[16:05] <Fonix> my ethernet is a broadcom BCM5787M
[16:05] <Fonix> and wlan is intel PRO/wireless 3945ABG
[16:05] <Fonix> on a extensa 5620G laptop
[16:05] <tuxi> wlan should be no problem, that's what's on my laptop
[16:06] <tuxi> nor should the wired ethernet adapter
[16:06] <Fonix> ye i have no idea why it doesnt work
[16:06] <Fonix> worked on 7.10
[16:06] <Fonix> and now it doesnt work on 8.10 :/
[16:07] <Fonix> it works also if im booted off the live cd
[16:07] <tuxi> I'm at a loss -- is Network Manager running?
[16:07] <Fonix> yes
[16:07] <ReiKn> tuxi: your question made me check also for the plasmoids, and when i took the analog clock and the photo showing plasmoids away, it reduced the login to 25 secs. I think this is usable already.
[16:07] <Fonix> its as if it cant find the wireless switch anymore
[16:08] <Fonix> cuz i made the connection on the first boot after install, but now it cant find any wireless lans when i go look for networks
[16:08] <Fonix> but i stil have the connection i made, its just not connected
[16:08] <tuxi> there is no "Enable WIreless" when you right click on the nm-applet in the system tray?
[16:09] <Fonix> no only disabled wireless
[16:09] <rohan> hi.. could someone help me with this problem - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1077273
[16:09] <tuxi> ReiKn, you'll just have to decide which plasmoids you really want
[16:09] <Fonix> as in its already active
[16:09] <rohan> basically on ubuntu 8.04.2 my splash screen stops too early
[16:10] <tuxi> rohan, I prefer the behavior I think you're describing
[16:11] <rohan> tuxi: to not have a splash screen?
[16:12] <tuxi> you'll need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst but I don't recall the commands to add to the kernel line
[16:13] <tuxi> I hate hiding the actions which go on with a splash screen
[16:13] <rohan> if so, you can just remove the word "splash" from your kernel line in menu.lst
[16:14] <tuxi> is splash still present in your kernel list?  There's also a quiet switch
[16:14] <rohan> yes, both are present
[16:14] <tuxi> hmm
[16:15] <tuxi> and it's on the kernel you are booting?
[16:15] <rohan> yes
[16:17] <shadeslayer> yaay
[16:17] <shadeslayer> i fixed my linux KDE
[16:17] <shadeslayer> :P
[16:18] <DaSkreech> \o/
[16:19] <shadeslayer> DaSkreech: i lost KDE due to adept grrrrr...........
[16:19] <rohan> shadeslayer: what was the problem?
[16:19] <DaSkreech> shadeslayer: You have irssi ?
[16:19] <shadeslayer> had
[16:19] <shadeslayer> rohan: i hate you please do not talk to me
[16:19] <tuxi> rohan, I'm at a loss
[16:19] <rohan> tuxi: me too :(
[16:20] <bostii> hi to all
[16:20] <shadeslayer> DaSkreech: why??
[16:20] <DaSkreech> shadeslayer: If you lose the GUI again you can jump in here for help
[16:20] <DaSkreech> Lots of people lose the GUI and freak out
[16:20] <shadeslayer> right now i have 80 MB of updates :O
[16:20] <draik_> DaSkreech: Hello. I'm still working on that recovery. I hope to have it all back in the next 3 days.
[16:20] <shadeslayer> DaSkreech: hehe,im one of them
[16:21] <shadeslayer> DaSkreech: i had to install kubuntu-desktop
[16:21] <shadeslayer> :P, stupid adept removed iot
[16:21] <shadeslayer> *it
[16:21] <DaSkreech> draik_: Where is it now?
[16:21]  * tuxi can use irssi but prefers the gui
[16:21]  * shadeslayer agrees with tuxi
[16:22] <draik_> shadeslayer: Ditto. I had to reinstall kde-window-manager
[16:22] <Exilant> irssi is a gui
[16:22] <shadeslayer> hahaha
[16:22] <shadeslayer> what a joke
[16:22] <shadeslayer> Exilant: irssi is certainly no GUI
[16:23] <draik_> DaSkreech: Stellar Phoenix crashed overnight so I started over and is currently going 4.52GB at a very small percentage (I'm doing raw recovery still)
[16:23] <DaSkreech> irssi is a ui
[16:23] <Exilant> it most certainly is. it has colours and stuff.
[16:23] <shadeslayer> draik_: are you the guy who didnt have kde in the login manager??
[16:23] <DaSkreech> draik_: Please tell me it has a skip option
[16:23] <shadeslayer> ah in that respect
[16:23] <DaSkreech> Exilant: That's not what makes a GUI :)
[16:23] <draik_> DaSkreech: Recover Data for Linux is still going and is currently at 27%. It's about 25% per 12 hours.
[16:24] <draik_> shadeslayer: I've had many issues. Not with the login necessarily, just issues with the usage (no borders and keyboard was essential shot)
[16:24] <shadeslayer> well,someone else had the same problem earlier
[16:24] <draik_> DaSkreech: No, I don't believe I saw one.
[16:24] <shadeslayer> BTW can i install GNOME alongside KDE??
[16:24] <Exilant> ok, i stand corrected. apparently gui really has to be more than just formatted text
[16:25] <draik_> shadeslayer: Yes. You can install as many WM's as you wish.
[16:25] <shadeslayer> oh good
[16:25] <shadeslayer> so sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop??
[16:25] <DaSkreech> draik_: Awww so it found things which were backed up already with the same time stamp and still copied and overwrote them?
[16:25] <draik_> shadeslayer: I have KDE, Gnome and Openbox
[16:25] <shadeslayer> cool
[16:25] <shadeslayer> so that command will work right??
[16:26] <draik_> DaSkreech: It never did the backup. This is just finding things still. I've very impressed with Stellar Phoenix Linux Data Recover v3.0
[16:26] <DaSkreech> shadeslayer: yes
[16:26] <Exilant> should work. you'll get more than just gnome, thogh.
[16:26] <shadeslayer> ok,GNOME here i come
[16:26] <shadeslayer> Exilant: how come??
[16:26] <draik_> The only issue I have on this laptop now is no audio :(
[16:26] <DaSkreech> draik_: Oh.. I thought that it was backing up as it was going along. So it's still possible that the physical hard drive can have issues with the copy
[16:26] <shadeslayer> draik_: its probably set on lo
[16:27] <shadeslayer> *low
[16:27] <Exilant> ubuntu-desktop will also get you several gnome apps
[16:27] <shadeslayer> oh thats no problem
[16:27] <draik_> DaSkreech: Maybe. Time will tell, but I have to leave for work in less than 3 hours.
[16:27] <draik_> shadeslayer: Nope. Amarok won't play because no audio drivers are in place.
[16:27] <shadeslayer> whats the name of volume manager in kubuntu??
[16:27] <shadeslayer> oh
[16:27] <draik_> kmix
[16:28] <shadeslayer> hmm its not running through konsole
[16:29] <shadeslayer> haha,im having the same problem with audio drivers now
[16:29] <shadeslayer> amarok wont play files
[16:30] <shadeslayer> any bright ideas draik_
[16:30] <shadeslayer> ??
[16:30] <draik_> Make sure the audio isn't on low ;P
[16:31] <shadeslayer> :)
[16:31] <shadeslayer> well no drivers
[16:31] <shadeslayer> kmix is crashing without a backtrace
[16:31] <draik_> ditto with kmix
[16:31] <shadeslayer> :)
[16:32] <shadeslayer> im never listening to adept again
[16:32] <shadeslayer> never ever
[16:33] <shadeslayer> !audio
[16:34] <linex> hello
[16:34] <shadeslayer> no sound system
[16:34] <linex> I'm fairly new to ubuntu/kubuntu , been using gentoo for 7 years now.
[16:34] <DaSkreech> linex: Welcome to Binary land!
[16:35] <linex> So kubuntu has a release every april and and every October, is this right ?
[16:35] <shadeslayer> :)
[16:35] <shadeslayer> yes
[16:35] <rohan> linex: normally, yes
[16:35] <DaSkreech> Yes
[16:35] <shadeslayer> development cycle is 6 months i believe
[16:35] <rohan> linex: but for example, one release was delayed from april to june
[16:35] <linex> DaSkreech: thank you. I will have one feet in source land and another in binary land for the time being.
[16:36] <shadeslayer> hehe
[16:36] <DaSkreech> Good way to expand your knowledge
[16:36] <shadeslayer> none of the links above open :(
[16:37] <shadeslayer> !drivers
[16:37] <shadeslayer> :|
[16:37] <shadeslayer> DaSkreech: any idea if i can seprately install audio drivers
[16:38] <DaSkreech> hmm ?
[16:38] <heinkel_vista> shadeslayer: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[16:38] <shadeslayer> right now i have no audio drivers
[16:38] <heinkel_vista> oh did I get that right? DaSkreech?
[16:38] <heinkel_vista> I am windows right now
[16:38] <shadeslayer> :D
[16:38] <heinkel_vista> the way to restart the audio drivers
[16:38] <shadeslayer> please dont get my lappy screwed all over again
[16:39] <DaSkreech> heinkel_vista: Yes that's right
[16:39] <shadeslayer> heinkel_vista: i have no drivers :P
[16:39] <rohan> and that doesn't "restart" your drivers, it just reinitializes some alsa stuff
[16:39] <DaSkreech> shadeslayer: Don't be afraid of breaking your machine It's pretty hard to break Linux to the point where you can't fix it
[16:39] <shadeslayer> :)
[16:39] <rohan> to actually "Restart" the drivers, you'd need to rmmod and modprobe the modules
[16:40] <shadeslayer> well no GUI to me is broke,;)
[16:40] <DaSkreech> get comfortable with the system enough where you can fix stuff then set it up so you never have to
[16:40] <heinkel_vista> ok I did the reboot thing yesterday...worked
[16:40] <heinkel_vista> I got the same strange message that there were no drivers for audio on my laptoip
[16:41] <shadeslayer> yeah,i got the same thing right now
[16:41] <DaSkreech> heinkel_vista: Did you indeed have no audio ?
[16:41] <heinkel_vista> yes, I have no idea why, it just sort of randomly happened yesterday
[16:42] <shadeslayer> heinkel_vista: i just reinstalled kubuntu-desktop and i recieved the notification on login
[16:42] <heinkel_vista> I was trying to do something in lmms but the application popped up with dummy 8no audio) driver
[16:42] <heinkel_vista> I think there may be a problem on the startup sequence, maybe afecting laptops for some reason
[16:43] <heinkel_vista> shadeslayer: what kind of laptop do you have? I have an intel-based toshiba
[16:43] <ActionParsnip1> yo yo yo
[16:43] <shadeslayer> XPS M1530,with all the bells and whistles
[16:43] <shadeslayer> Dell btw
[16:43] <heinkel_vista> i know, never tried dell with linux unfortunately
[16:44] <shadeslayer> works great
[16:44] <tuxi> my laptop is a 1505N which came with Ubuntu (32-bit) preloaded
[16:45] <shadeslayer> great,i wanted my XPS to have Kubuntu,had to install it myself
[16:45] <tuxi> I repartitioned the disk and installed 64-bit Ubuntu within a couple of days and added KDE later
[16:45] <draik_> shadeslayer: I'm on a Dell too. Smartstep 250N.
[16:45] <shadeslayer> draik_: never heard of it
[16:46] <shadeslayer> Smartstep hmmmmmmmm
[16:46] <tuxi> Dell did the M$ thing and had only one partition for the OS and /me *hugs* br3nome
[16:46] <shadeslayer> :)
[16:46] <shadeslayer> tuxi: they stopped building your lappy right
[16:47] <draik_> shadeslayer: very short-lived model. It was given to me when the original owner thought their windows stuff was all gone.
[16:47] <shadeslayer> hehe
[16:47] <tuxi> I think it's been superseded
[16:48] <draik_> 'I lost everything and bought a new laptop. You can have this one (Smartstep 250N) for your own use or strip it for parts. I don't care'
[16:48] <shadeslayer> :)
[16:50] <shadeslayer> any idea about my problem
[16:50] <shadeslayer> ??
[16:50] <shadeslayer> dont ask
[16:51] <Tm_T> shadeslayer: try not to spread your sayings to multiple lines
[16:51] <shadeslayer> huh??
[16:51] <shadeslayer> oh that
[16:55] <draik_> DaSkreech: If my calculations are correct, I am just above 1.5% completion and it has found 7.75GB
[16:57] <DaSkreech> shadeslayer: what audio card?
[16:57] <shadeslayer> ill check
[16:57] <shadeslayer> HDA intel
[16:57] <DaSkreech> !hda
[16:57] <shadeslayer> HDA intel STAC92XX analog
[16:58] <DaSkreech> !intelhda
[16:58] <shadeslayer> ooh
[16:58] <draik_> shadeslayer: I have an Intel 82801BA-ICH2
[16:58] <shadeslayer> does not open
[16:58] <shadeslayer> :)
[16:59] <JackWinter> how do i install the latest closed nvidia driver on kubuntu 8.04 ?
[16:59] <shadeslayer> JackWinter: K>apps>settings>hardware drivers
[16:59] <draik_> My FF is still trying to load that page. Awkward
[16:59] <shadeslayer> *system
[16:59] <shadeslayer> draik_: hehe it wont open
[17:01] <DaSkreech> grrr I think the wiki is down
[17:01] <shadeslayer> :(
[17:01] <jussi01> DaSkreech: looks that way
[17:01] <draik_> shadeslayer: I went to http://help.ubuntu.com and searched for 'intel audio' and it shows upin the results. Clicking on it, however, will tell you the page no longer exists.
[17:01] <shadeslayer> wiki down :(
[17:01] <draik_> Oh
[17:02] <draik_> how conveniently inconvenient.
[17:02] <shadeslayer> hehe
[17:02] <shadeslayer> btw is utorrent available for linux??
[17:03] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: no, but there are a million torrent clients
[17:03] <tuxi> I find ktorrent to be a good client
[17:03] <ActionParsnip1> !torrents
[17:03] <ActionParsnip1> !torrent
[17:03] <shadeslayer> na ive grown used to utorrent
[17:03] <hearts> utorrent rocks.
[17:03] <shadeslayer> yeah
[17:03] <shadeslayer> simple,light,speedy
[17:03] <hearts> yup
[17:03] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: it runs via wine but its gonna be a memory bloat
[17:03] <hearts> a lot of options also
[17:03] <shadeslayer> :)
[17:04] <hearts> you could even tab your dls
[17:04] <hearts> =P
[17:04] <shadeslayer> yup
[17:04] <ActionParsnip1> i use ktorrent as it has a web interface which is BADASS
[17:04] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip1: urgh,wine,ewww
[17:04] <hearts> bittorrent gets messed up on vista x64
[17:04] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: yep, exactly. try opening your mind to another client
[17:04] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: theres a lot to try
[17:04] <hearts> so i got utorrent ;even though its the same thing
[17:05] <hearts> utorrent doesnt give me any problems
[17:05] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip1: i use wine only for counter strike,that too only once
[17:05] <shadeslayer> btw im starting a LUG in my college
[17:06] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: i use it for dukenukem :D
[17:06] <draik_> !akondai
[17:06] <draik_> !akonadi
[17:06] <shadeslayer> :O
[17:06] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: and my course needs it too
[17:06] <draik_> !info akonadi
[17:06] <ActionParsnip1> !find akon
[17:06] <draik_> What is akonadi? I have it in my System Settings under the Advanced tab
[17:06] <ActionParsnip1> !info akondi-server
[17:07] <shadeslayer> hehe
[17:07] <giarca> akonadi-kde :)
[17:07] <ActionParsnip1> !info akonadi-server
[17:07] <hearts> can anyone tell me
[17:07] <giarca> abou akonadi anyone using mailody mail client?
[17:07] <hearts> whats the point of running mac os x
[17:07] <shadeslayer> 30 min for completing updates
[17:08] <shadeslayer> hearts: gloss??
[17:08] <giarca> is it a good software compared to kamil?
[17:08] <hearts> the ui? lol
[17:08] <shadeslayer> :D
[17:08] <ActionParsnip1> hearts: no idea, its against the license to run mac OS on non mac hardware
[17:08] <draik_> hearts: Well, a co-worker told me that OS X has terminal, but in no form does Apple ever really want you using it as they try to simplify it all to one click on the GUI.
[17:08] <shadeslayer> well i lcan easily say give kubuntu another 3 years and itll rival OS X in gloss
[17:09] <hearts> no its not.
[17:09] <hearts> LOL
[17:09] <draik_> ActionParsnip1: Is it really?
[17:09] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: yes, its not allowed
[17:09] <shadeslayer> against EULA
[17:09] <draik_> That's just lovely
[17:09] <hearts> its illegal to run it on a non-mac non-LABELED computer
[17:09] <ActionParsnip1> gloss == LAME
[17:09] <hearts> so you get a mac sticker
[17:09] <shadeslayer> i have a torrent for it
[17:09] <hearts> and you're good.
[17:09] <draik_> shadeslayer: Torrent for what?
[17:09] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: thats illegal piracy then
[17:09] <shadeslayer> for OS X
[17:10] <hearts> i use
[17:10] <shadeslayer> i didnt download it though
[17:10] <hearts> pearpc
[17:10] <hearts> LOL
[17:10] <draik_> So did I. They are not good. One didn't boot in Virtualbox, another wasn't even meant to be bootable, etc.
[17:10] <hearts> mac has no laws against virtualization
[17:10] <shadeslayer> as soon as i discovered it was against EULA i dropped the idea
[17:10] <hearts> mac os x will not run on virtualbox.
[17:11] <shadeslayer> really??
[17:11] <draik_> Really?
[17:11] <shadeslayer> lol
[17:11] <giarca> If I want to test mailody I should installa mailody package or mailody-kde4?
[17:11] <hearts> i use pearpc
[17:11] <draik_> That's really lame. Why not?
[17:11] <shadeslayer> !mailody
[17:11] <hearts> some people have done it on vmware
[17:11] <hearts> i myself use pearpc
[17:12] <hearts> i have mac os x
[17:12] <hearts> but
[17:12] <DaSkreech> shadeslayer: You can run Darwin
[17:12] <hearts> i dont know what i could do on it? lol
[17:12] <shadeslayer> darwin?? whats that??
[17:12] <DaSkreech> hearts: parallels and Vmware can virtualize macOSX I think
[17:13] <DaSkreech> !info mailody
[17:13] <hearts> yeah
[17:13] <hearts> i know vmware could
[17:13] <hearts> but i doubt it about virtualbox
[17:13] <hearts> im using virtualbox right now ;]
[17:13] <giarca> DarkriftX: ok, but the difference about installing only mailody or maildoy and mailody-kde4?
[17:14] <draik_> If VMware can create the image, then it can be ported to VirtualBox, right?
[17:14] <DaSkreech> giarca: Mailody is a IMAP only mail client made cause Kmail hadreally bad IMAP and the authour wanted a project. I would expect over the next year all the code from mailody will be merged into Kmail. But it's quite fast
[17:14] <hearts> nope
[17:14] <hearts> i dont think so
[17:14] <DaSkreech> hearts: it can't you have to license the firmware DRM from apple
[17:14] <giarca> DaSkreech: so I can install only mailody packages
[17:14] <DaSkreech> which of course Vbox won't do
[17:14] <giarca> because mailody-kde4 is aplha project in my repo
[17:14] <DaSkreech> giarca: Sure it's a Qt app then
[17:14] <hearts> ive seen screenshots of it on vmware
[17:15] <hearts> and read that its not possible on virtualbox
[17:15] <hearts> never seen a screenshot of mac on virtualbox
[17:15] <hearts> :/
[17:15] <giarca> ok thanks
[17:15] <draik_> I was really looking forward to using OS X on VirtualBox
[17:15] <trevor> Hey im having a couple problems with my new install, can anyone help
[17:15] <hearts> you could use pearpc
[17:15] <draik_> !ask | trevor
[17:16] <shadeslayer> trevor: sure thing
[17:16] <draik_> Wrong one.
[17:16] <shadeslayer> :)
[17:16] <shadeslayer> draik_: leave it,dont hassle him
[17:16] <draik_> trevor: Your request for help is vague. What is the issue?
[17:16] <shadeslayer> :)
[17:16] <jussi01> Hrm, seems my swap is not recognised/activated. anyone tell me how to fix it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/121487/
[17:16] <shadeslayer> :O
[17:16] <draik_> shadeslayer: I'm willing to help, if I can, but only once the issue is known.
[17:17] <shadeslayer> jussi01: youre asking for help
[17:17] <shadeslayer> draik_: you sound like a bot :P
[17:17] <trevor> ok, i accidentally deleted my network applet off the task bar on the bottom right, and i cant figure out how to get it back, also, when i go to internet and then knetworkmanager it doesnt come uip when i click it
[17:17] <draik_> shadeslayer: LOL
[17:17] <hearts> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=channel_page&hl=en&v=44XlL2lWOSY
[17:17] <shadeslayer> trevor: thatll be in the widgets
[17:17] <trevor> also, my new kubuntuinstall seems to be running incredibly hot on my laptop
[17:17] <hearts> ^thats me runing mac windows and linux
[17:18] <shadeslayer> trevor: which laptop??
[17:18] <trevor> when i click on the network widget it comes up as four boxes
[17:18] <trevor> it is a toshiba sattelite
[17:18] <jussi01> hearts: wrong place. please use #kubuntu-offtopic
[17:18] <ActionParsnip1> jussi01 wapon /dev/<whatever>
[17:18] <hearts> how is that offtopic.
[17:18] <ActionParsnip1> swapon /dev/<?>
[17:18] <trevor> it has 4gb of ram, 2.0 dual core amd processor, 250gb hd
[17:18] <kure> hi where can i get audio drivers for kubuntu??
[17:18] <trevor> 80gb is used for kubuntu
[17:19] <draik_> hearts: I hope you're not talking on there cuz I have no audio drivers :(
[17:19] <shadeslayer> trevor: change the power managing policy dynamic
[17:19] <hearts> no
[17:19] <ActionParsnip1> kure: run lspci and one line will identify your sound card, you can then websearch from that
[17:19] <shadeslayer> kure: get in the line :P
[17:19] <shadeslayer> draik_: see that??
[17:19] <kure> how?
[17:19] <kure> im big noob :)
[17:19] <shadeslayer> kure: konsole?/
[17:19] <kure> y
[17:19] <shadeslayer> Alt+F2
[17:19] <kure> next step
[17:19] <kure> i have kubuntu 1 hour
[17:20] <draik_> !enter | kure
[17:20] <trevor> where is the policy management option
[17:20] <ActionParsnip1> kure: its a konsole command
[17:20] <shadeslayer> type lspci
[17:20] <DaSkreech> Welcome to Linux and Kubuntu kure
[17:20] <kure> lspci??
[17:20] <vlt> Hello. I've installed Kubuntu 8.04 LTS. How can I import an old .wab address book (from Microsoft Outlook Express) into K-Mail?
[17:20] <kure> only lspci?
[17:20] <DaSkreech> trevor: Which policy ?
[17:20] <shadeslayer> trevor: in the system taskbar widget
[17:20] <shadeslayer> same place as windows
[17:20] <DaSkreech> vlt: export it from Outlook as vcards or csv
[17:20] <shadeslayer> :P
[17:20] <draik_> shadeslayer: Do you happen to have the same one?   Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio Controller
[17:20] <DaSkreech> csv is highly prefered since it makes life much less painful for you
[17:21] <shadeslayer> nope
[17:21] <trevor> ok, i have that working
[17:21] <trevor> now, whenever i click on a link in irc itbrings it up in thunderbird
[17:21] <kure> nothing hapen
[17:21] <trevor> how can i change that
[17:21] <shadeslayer> HDA intel STAC92XX analog
[17:21] <kure> maybe it because i updating now
[17:21] <vlt> DaSkreech: I don't have Outlook running on my kubuntu machine ;-)
[17:21] <shadeslayer> trevor: how about changing the default browser to lonqueror
[17:22] <shadeslayer> *konqueror
[17:22] <draik_> kure: Open a new tab in konsole or a new konsole window and type 'lspci' to find your audio driver.
[17:22] <ActionParsnip1> jussi01: did the command work?
[17:22] <kure> ok i did it
[17:22] <kure> but i dont see any audio drivers
[17:22] <shadeslayer> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
[17:22] <shadeslayer> like that ^^
[17:22] <draik_> trevor: K menu > Computer > System Settings > Default Applications
[17:23] <ActionParsnip1> kure: running that command wont give you drivers
[17:23] <kure> is some command like apt-get audio driver ??
[17:23] <draik_> trevor: Make sure you have a browser for the default browser rather than Thunderbird.
[17:23] <ActionParsnip1> kure: it will identify the card for you so you can find out how to set it up
[17:23] <Guest63595> sup
[17:23] <shadeslayer> :)
[17:23] <hearts> sudo apt-get a life
[17:23] <hearts> lol just kidding
[17:23] <shadeslayer> hahaha
[17:23] <draik_> LOL
[17:23] <shadeslayer> nice one
[17:23] <ActionParsnip1> kure: no because there are so MANY sound cards it would be unfeasible
[17:23] <chris__> anyone a dab hand with ATI graphic drivers?
[17:24] <ActionParsnip1> !ati | chris__
[17:24] <shadeslayer> ubottu
[17:24] <shadeslayer> :P
[17:24] <hearts> i got an ati video card?
[17:24] <hearts> :/
[17:24] <kure> ok i ty it
[17:24] <hearts> i got the radeon 4800 series
[17:24]  * rhinux is away: Zur Zeit abwesend
[17:24] <tuxi> chris__, are you wanting to try the radeonhd driver?
[17:24] <ActionParsnip1> kure: if you run konsole, and type lspci and press enter
[17:24] <kure> ERROR
[17:24] <kure> The requested URL could not be retrieved
[17:24] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip1: how do install  the audio driver btw??
[17:24] <draik_> ATi, aka the Bus - Big, Red and managed by bad drivers :p
[17:24] <chris__> not quite, more troubleshooting
[17:24] <kure> i did it
[17:24] <hearts> i dont need to install soundcard drivers because i use virtualbox
[17:24] <Jarvellis> Is there some easy way to switch window managers without closing all my apps?
[17:24] <hearts> lol.
[17:24] <ActionParsnip1> kure:  a whole list of stuff will appear, this is your hardware, read the screen and one line will idetify the card
[17:24] <tuxi> I haven't had the need to troubleshoot, sorry
[17:25] <trevor> ok when i try to add the network widget, it is just 4 boxes, i want the one that lets me connect to a wireless network
[17:25] <kure> ERROR
[17:25] <kure> The requested URL could not be retrieved
[17:25] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: mine ALWAYS work out of the box because i shop smart
[17:25] <kure> 00:07.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP67 High Definition Audio (rev a1)
[17:25] <chris__> computer won't boot graphics anymore and I want to reinstall everything related to xorg and fglrx
[17:25] <trevor> like is there when i start it up out of the box
[17:25] <kure> i find thix
[17:25] <kure> 00:07.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP67 High Definition Audio (rev a1)
[17:25] <shadeslayer> ok wait
[17:25] <shadeslayer> i think im talking to 5 people
[17:25] <shadeslayer> :P
[17:25] <draik_> LOL
[17:25] <kure> i
[17:25] <kure> waiting .)
[17:25] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: sometimes you need to compile alsa with options, or compile a module or a package may contain the nnecessary files
[17:25]  * draik_ .
[17:26] <ActionParsnip1> kure: awesome
[17:26] <shadeslayer> first ActionParsnip1
[17:26] <DaSkreech> shadeslayer: and one draik_ bot
[17:26] <kure> so how?
[17:26] <draik_> DaSkreech: What? How am I a bot?
[17:26] <DaSkreech> chris__:  how are you connected here?
[17:26] <DaSkreech> draik_: You sound like one :)
[17:26] <draik_> !botsnack
[17:26] <chris__> laptop
[17:26] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip1: ok, i reinstalled Kubuntu-desktop,stupid adept
[17:26] <shadeslayer> they were working earlier
[17:26] <hearts> hey whats that irc command to see all the rooms list
[17:26] <ActionParsnip1> kure: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=685837
[17:26] <draik_> shadeslayer: Did that fix the audio issue?
[17:27] <shadeslayer> one sec draik_
[17:27] <kure> i try
[17:27] <ActionParsnip1> !channels | hearts
[17:27] <draik_> hearts '/list'
[17:27] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip1: so i have to install fresh drivers,any idea?? draik_has the same problem
[17:27] <hearts> cool
[17:27] <hearts> thanks
[17:27] <draik_> NP
[17:27] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: what sound card do you have?
[17:27] <tuxi> chris__, you can still get to a command line?
[17:28] <shadeslayer> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
[17:28] <kure> shit
[17:28] <trevor> draik: in the widget i added, it onlyhas powersave, aggressive powersave, performance, and presentation
[17:28] <trevor> where is dynamic
[17:28] <trevor> or is that somethign else entirely
[17:28] <draik_> trevor: Huh? What widget did you add?
[17:28] <chris__> tuxi: I can get into recovery command line, but not failsafe
[17:28] <kure> i try sudo modprobe snd-  and it write sound module not found
[17:29] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/122560
[17:29] <torero> !ru
[17:29] <shadeslayer> boo to bugs
[17:29] <trevor> power management
[17:29] <ActionParsnip1> kure: you need to install some stuff, read the post i gave you
[17:29] <shadeslayer> specially to bug #1
[17:29] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: i dont think bug #1 is a bug
[17:29] <shadeslayer> counts as one for linux
[17:30] <kure> some link for download it?
[17:30] <tuxi> chris__, have you tried copying an old xorg.conf to /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[17:30] <ActionParsnip1> kure: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=685837
[17:30] <draik_> ActionParsnip1: What about my audio card: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio Controller
[17:31] <bishopz> ejenkjnekjne
[17:31] <bishopz> lol, my bad apparently my daughhter wanted to type
[17:31] <tuxi> I knew it wasn't a language I recognized
[17:31] <bishopz> lol
[17:32] <draik_> bishopz: I thought you were just checking if the keyboard works
[17:32] <bishopz> nah, i have a blockbuster to ensure that :x
[17:32] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip1: so many patches ,which one to apply??
[17:32] <chris__> tuxi: many times.  It's a bit of a complicated story which I've typed out at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1077311
[17:33] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: not sure, thats as much as i know
[17:33] <shadeslayer> :)
[17:33] <kure> i must wait for update download i cant do another process during it.
[17:33] <chris__> ubuntuforums I have personally found are very ineffective
[17:33] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: is it in a laptop?
[17:33] <draik_> ActionParsnip1: Yes.
[17:33] <shadeslayer> well ubottu has some info,but the wiki is down
[17:33] <bishopz> yea unbuntu forums are vague
[17:33] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: what make/model
[17:33] <draik_> shadeslayer: I say, use the one the works ;)
[17:33] <draik_> ActionParsnip1: Dell Smartstep 250N
[17:33] <boboso> since we are talking bout sound does anyone know why all my music and movies the sound works but it is very low.  volume is up in the program and on the volume contral in the system tray
[17:34] <shadeslayer> hehe,not easy i tell you
[17:34] <shadeslayer> boboso: hehe,i had that problem
[17:34] <bishopz> do u have linux running as the default
[17:34] <bishopz> in sounds
[17:34] <shadeslayer> when i had sound
[17:34] <draik_> Did you remember to set the audio to 11?
[17:34] <boboso> bishopz: how do i check
[17:34] <bishopz> linux instals its own drivers, so ... if youre sounds low could be because its running that and not off your actual intended driver
[17:35] <shadeslayer> boboso: go in kmix,enable every option in the settings and set everything to full
[17:35] <bishopz> shit, hang on, i had the fix for it somewhere
[17:35] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: lsmod | grep soundcore
[17:35] <bishopz> its a pain
[17:35] <bishopz> u have to locate your sound drivers
[17:35] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: does it output?
[17:35] <bishopz> disable all the ones that arent yours
[17:35] <bishopz> lol hang on
[17:35] <draik_> Yup
[17:35] <draik_> soundcore              15328  1 snd
[17:35] <ActionParsnip1> cool
[17:36] <shadeslayer> i have soundcore              16800  1 snd
[17:36]  * draik_ loves yakuake :)
[17:36] <shadeslayer> :P
[17:36] <tuxi> chris__, have you tried sudo aptitude install xorg-driver-fglrx?
[17:37] <shadeslayer> brb
[17:37] <hearts> hey
[17:37] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: are you fully updated?
[17:37] <draik_> Yup
[17:37] <hearts> i heard bill gates lives on an island
[17:37] <bishopz> its somewhere on unbuntuforums.
[17:37] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: + 1 yakuake
[17:37] <bishopz> hang on im still looking i just reformatted too so shits all over
[17:37] <hearts> and he has water speakers to listen to music while he's scuba diving
[17:37] <hearts> lol
[17:37] <boboso> when i open mplayer i get this msg would the be the reason why the sound is low?  ao pulse failed to connect to server: connection refused.  anyone know what is causing it.
[17:37] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: is it muted?
[17:37] <bishopz> that could be partial
[17:38] <draik_> LOL. No.
[17:38] <chris__> tuxi: big problem there, only a wireless connection to the computer in question, no idea how to access wireless networks through command line
[17:38] <draik_> ActionParsnip1: I try to run amarok and it won't play because it says there aren't any drivers.
[17:38] <DaSkreech> hearts: Seriously though if you don't have a question join #kubuntu-offtopic
[17:38] <ActionParsnip1> !sound
[17:39] <draik_> ActionParsnip1: xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers.
[17:39] <chris__> of note though, I tried dpkg-reconfigure xorg-driver and it said that it isn't installed, figured that wasn't default behaviour
[17:39] <bishopz> i have a question maybe someone can answer :/
[17:39] <bishopz> i have a WD 300gb external HD, now.. its filled with music and movies, i plug it in , bang it says its mounted but wont read anything
[17:39] <bishopz> any thoughts?
[17:40] <shadeslayer> bishopz:locked maybe??
[17:40] <DaSkreech> bishopz: Won't read?
[17:40] <tuxi> chris__, no wired option then?
[17:40] <draik_> bishopz: I've had bad times with WD. I use Seagate now.
[17:40] <bishopz> not locked, just wont show ANY files inside
[17:40] <bishopz> yea i think im going with seagate next
[17:40] <shadeslayer> draik_: clicky seagates :P
[17:41] <draik_> shadeslayer: Clicky, but it works
[17:41] <shadeslayer> hehe
[17:41] <chris__> tuxi: I've tried the long distance stretched ethernet cable to different floor method, but it doesn't want to recognise it
[17:41] <DaSkreech> bishopz: who owns the directory it's mounted on?
[17:42] <epimeth> guys... clicking on "add" in the "add widgets" dialog causes plasma to max out the cpu and stop working....
[17:42] <bishopz> hang on.
[17:42] <epimeth> also, the widget doesn't get added
[17:42] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip1: btw i have a 64 bit compilation,so none of the patches will work lol
[17:42] <epimeth> anything I can do to track down the bug and forward it along to the kde4 folks?
[17:42] <bishopz> where would i find that
[17:42] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: this may help: http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Fedora/2005-03/4046.html
[17:42] <draik_> ActionParsnip1: !sounds needs to be updated.
[17:43] <ActionParsnip1> another root logon, great :(
[17:43] <DaSkreech> bishopz: It's mounted in ?media ?
[17:43] <chris__> that's not cool
[17:43] <DaSkreech> Guest27806: Don't login to IRC as root
[17:43] <hearts> anyone using konversation
[17:43] <hearts> ?
[17:43] <bishopz> it mounts to desktop
[17:43] <epimeth> hearts: me!
[17:43] <hearts> cool
[17:43] <chris__> right now
[17:43] <tuxi> hearts, I am atm
[17:43] <hearts> how do you close a channel
[17:43] <DaSkreech> bishopz: Oh? Hmm Ok ls -l /media
[17:43] <hearts> lol
[17:43] <epimeth> hearts:yes, ARM
[17:43] <epimeth> erm ATM
[17:43] <epimeth> heh
[17:43] <DaSkreech> hearts: ctrl+W
[17:43] <bishopz> so unmount and remount in media?
[17:44] <epimeth> or right click on the panel and click "close"
[17:44] <epimeth> I prefer ctrl+w :-)
[17:44] <hearts> i just had to leave the #windows room
[17:44] <shadeslayer> hearts: how about /part
[17:44] <shadeslayer> :)
[17:44] <chris__> how often does the root thing happen out of interest?
[17:44] <hearts> some dork was asking about if there's some way of bypassing rebooting xp after updates
[17:44] <DaSkreech> chris__: fairly often
[17:44] <shadeslayer> :)
[17:44] <hearts> i swear man, people dont know how to prioritize.
[17:44] <draik_> ActionParsnip1: Nothing much on there.
[17:44] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip1: any other ideas??
[17:45] <hearts> ctrl+w works fine
[17:45] <hearts> thanks
[17:45] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: looks like its gonna be a pain, theres some module options in that link that may help
[17:45] <tuxi> hearts, you can type /part, click on the x icon on the bottom right of the konversation window, or the ctrl-w as suggested above
[17:45] <chris__> figured, it's not the sort of name you choose willingly
[17:45] <shadeslayer> did trevor leave??
[17:45] <epimeth> so anybody having problems with adding widgets?
[17:46] <hearts> opps.
[17:46]  * shadeslayer is excited,his update is about to complete
[17:46] <hearts> i just clicked that x and it made me leave
[17:46] <hearts> lol
[17:46] <shadeslayer> :P
[17:46] <tuxi> epimeth, are you fully updated?  When the 4.2 was moved to main/backports my widget issues decreased
[17:47] <tuxi> I thought that was what you wanted, hearts
[17:47] <hearts> no
[17:47] <shadeslayer> LD
[17:47] <shadeslayer> :D
[17:47] <hearts> i wanted to leave the windows room
[17:47] <hearts> not this one
[17:47] <hearts> the #ubuntu one sucked too
[17:47] <hearts> lol
[17:47] <epimeth> tuxi: yea, I think it started after I updated *to* kde4.2
[17:47] <draik_> hearts: '/close' works
[17:47] <hearts> this chan is cool
[17:48] <hearts> for what it is at least =P
[17:48] <tuxi> sorry I don't know how to help, epimeth
[17:48] <hearts> anyone here ever phreaked before
[17:49] <epimeth> tuxi: no worries... It'll probably work itself out in a few days
[17:49] <draik_> I just realized I don't have kMix running and it won't run when I try to execute it through the run command
[17:49] <DaSkreech> hearts: Yeah it is pretty neat :) but still we need to help people here. If you don't have a problem then join #kubuntu-offtopic and talk there you can stay in here and watch what's happening
[17:49] <ivan_> anyone use acer aspire 4520?
[17:50] <hearts> oh ok thnx
[17:50] <shadeslayer> yaay update complete
[17:50] <shadeslayer> brb after reboot
[17:50] <draik_> Well, this audio issue is going to have to wait. Time to jump in the shower and start heading off to work.
[17:50] <hearts> da are you an op
[17:50] <ivan_> im using acer aspire 4520, still dont have wireless driver on ubuntu 8.04
[17:50] <ivan_> anyone can help me?
[17:50] <shadeslayer> ooh netsplit
[17:50] <draik_> Pretty
[17:51] <epimeth> ivan_: what wlan card do you have?
[17:51] <shadeslayer> holy moly
[17:51] <andypls1> kubuntu suck :)
[17:51] <shadeslayer> 973 MB for the Ubuntu desktop
[17:51] <shadeslayer> andypls1: no way
[17:51] <shadeslayer> !suck
[17:51] <shadeslayer> :P
[17:51] <ivan_> atheros
[17:52] <shadeslayer> ! gnome
 ivan_: what wlan card do you have?  <<< im using atheros
[17:52] <andypls1> shadeslayer ubuntu are better
[17:52] <shadeslayer> nope
[17:52] <shadeslayer> kubuntu is better
[17:52] <shadeslayer> !better
[17:52] <epimeth> ivan_: does this help? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Atheros
[17:52] <ivan_> ok epimeth
[17:52] <ivan_> ill try
[17:52] <ivan_> thx
[17:52] <shadeslayer> ok any idea how to install GNOME
[17:53] <shadeslayer> a very basic install
[17:53] <andypls1> shadeslayer the best thing it to get a Macbook
[17:53] <shadeslayer> 973 MB is too much
[17:53] <harjot_> !ica
[17:53] <hearts> gnome on kubuntu?
[17:53] <shadeslayer> andypls1: stop ranting
[17:53] <harjot_> !italc
[17:53] <harjot_> !italk
[17:53] <andypls1> shadeslayer how can i stop something i don't even know what it means?
[17:53] <shadeslayer> ??
[17:54] <andypls1> ranting
[17:54] <shadeslayer> you dont know how to rant??
[17:54] <shadeslayer> :P
[17:54] <shadeslayer> no wonder you support macs
[17:54] <bishopz> -curses at compiz-
[17:54] <bishopz> grrrrrr
[17:54] <shadeslayer> ok ive gtg
[17:54] <bishopz> i give up
[17:54] <shadeslayer> KDE is better
[17:54] <shadeslayer> :P
[17:54] <bishopz> sudo =
[17:54] <andypls1> KDE is slow
[17:55] <ActionParsnip1> bishopz: compiz is garbage imho
[17:55] <andypls1> the only good thing with KDE is CTRL+Alt+Esc
[17:55] <chris__> gnome doesn't have cursor kill?!?
[17:55] <bishopz> whats good for customizing then
[17:55] <bishopz> ?
[17:55] <Led_Zeppelin> what is the Gnome tool to show Wireless settings? I am using KDE but I don't think a tool like that exists for kde
[17:56] <tuxi> Led_Zeppelin, nm-applet may be what you're looking for
[17:56] <andypls1> no chris__ it doesnt
[17:56] <ActionParsnip1> Led_Zeppelin: dont ask i both channels, it makes you look silly
[17:56] <epimeth> Led_Zeppelin: ummm... KNetworkManager does....