[21:51] <ActionParsnip> k1l: people love cats ;)
[21:52] <k1l> ActionParsnip: poor cats have to do sysyphus work :(
[21:52] <bobweaver> pastebinit << pat/to/foo   k1l   ?  like I was using a UUOC ?
[21:52] <bobweaver> lol ActionParsnip
[21:52] <k1l> bobweaver: pastebinit /path/to/file
[21:52] <m0r0n> ActionParsnip, new user work. I believe so (if that's the default)
[21:52] <bobweaver> thanks k1l
[21:52] <k1l> just exchange cat with pastebinit :)
[21:52] <LABcrab> Anyone else good with dial-up?
[21:53] <montassar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1413424/
[21:53] <bobweaver> k1l,  ummmm yeahh me and my UUOC all the time I rell yah
[21:53] <m0r0n> And to be noted my GUI has been screwing up lately. I deleted a bunch of things that came with Ubuntu that I didn't need and I think it deleted some other things that it depended on which in return screwed up the GUI
[21:53] <k1l> !rootirc > root
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> bobweaver: just:   pastebinit /path/to/file    will do
[21:53] <Argure> bekks: okay, lets hope I don't break stuff :)
[21:53] <Argure> thanks :P
[21:53] <bekks> Argure: Create a backup ;)
[21:54] <Argure> eh, it's a new vm
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> montassar: try the aptfix command ubottu gave
[21:54] <Argure> but still I don't like changing hostnames, pretty much ever :D
[21:54] <yxkvast> My computer keeps trying to download updates from this sites but failing, why does it do that, or can you reach this site ( http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/source/Sources.gz ).
[21:54] <Argure> but the perl script we use for making new vm's doesn't support dashes in hostnames
[21:54] <m0r0n> Fore example, I opened a folder and I moved the folder  around the screen and it 'erased' the background
[21:54] <morfeo_81> Hi
[21:54] <montassar> what I exactly type?
[21:55] <k1l> montassar: what says "lsb_release -sc" say?
[21:55] <darkhalo117> Is there any way for me to create a non-SU account and still allow them to install applications?
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | montassar
[21:55] <bobweaver> ActionParsnip,  look at his paste there is like 6 doubles line 72 too 79
[21:55] <k1l> ActionParsnip: no stop
[21:55] <bobweaver> ActionParsnip,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1413424/
[21:55] <k1l> ActionParsnip: he has precise and quantal sources
[21:55] <zvacet> darkhalo117: yes
[21:56] <mikky> hello guys please how do i change desktop shortcut from ctrl+super+D
[21:56] <montassar> "quantal"
[21:56] <bobweaver> montassar,  what about        ls /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> k1l: i have a precise sources in my dropbox, should get it to stock but it may be a reinstall job
[21:57] <k1l> montassar: why are there quantal lines besides thatprecise lines in your sources.list? did you write them in there?
[21:57] <montassar> no
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> k1l: i believe it was in the middle of an upgrade to quantal
[21:57] <juniour> mikky system setting->keyboard->shortcut
[21:57] <bobweaver> k1l,  71 too 79 should be a gonner
[21:58] <k1l> ActionParsnip: since he got a "half" quantal system already, he should go with a clean quantal sources list and do a upgrade
[21:58] <zvacet> darkhalo117: but they have to know your admin password  :)
[21:58] <k1l> bobweaver: see my last line
[21:58] <bobweaver> +1
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> k1l: makes sense
[21:58] <montassar> please can someone talk to me in private?
[21:58] <k1l> do we have some clean quantal sources-list somewhere?
[21:59] <mickster04> !pm
[21:59] <bobweaver> k1l,  just run sed on it like peps do for debian upgrade ?
[22:00] <montassar> what to do now?
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> montassar: try:  sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.old; sudo wget -O /etc/apt/sources.list https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/quantalsources.list
[22:00] <derpderpd> how the hell do i get mdadm to promote a spare to active? https://gist.github.com/4219875
[22:00] <k1l> bobweaver: that could do. but since his list is a mess, i would suggest to get a clean one
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> k1l: always, I keep them in my dropbox for just such occasions :)
[22:01] <montassar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1413437/
[22:01] <bobweaver> montassar,  update and upgrade now
[22:01] <hilo> derpderpd, from the output you posted, it doesn't look like you have any arrays.
[22:02] <k1l> montassar: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" now
[22:02] <bobweaver> montassar,  sure would also be nice to see a
[22:02] <hilo> derpderpd, it will become active when an active raid loses a drive
[22:02] <bobweaver> montassar,  what about        ls /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit
[22:02] <bobweaver> in case there is any ppa there
[22:02] <zykotick9> bobweaver: ls?  that's just gonna show /etc/apt/sources.list isn't it?
[22:02] <derpderpd> hilo: its a raid1 with 2 disks, sdb failed. this is after the reboot on a recovery system
[22:02] <gambitfan> yeah ubuntu everybody loves ubuntu
[22:02] <RickZilla> What's the syntax to remove a ppa that is no longer needed?
[22:02] <k1l> .d/ is missing, imho
[22:03] <bobweaver> zykotick9,  wowie wowie you are correct
[22:03] <gambitfan> wa wa wee wa
[22:03] <hilo> derpderpd, your mdadm output shows both of the other drives are removed.
[22:03] <k1l> !ot | gambitfan
[22:03] <xangua> !ppa-purge | RickZilla
[22:03] <xangua> RickZilla are you using 32 or 64bit¿
[22:03] <zvacet> RickZilla: delete them from source list or put # sign in front of them
[22:03] <montassar> it says "/etc/apt/sources.list"
[22:03] <derpderpd> but sda3 is there as a spare
[22:04] <hilo> derpderpd, only 1 working device, so it doesn't see either of your raid1 members. nothing to rebuild from
[22:04] <bobweaver> montassar,  that was my bad     ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d | pastebinit
[22:04] <derpderpd> for whatever reason
[22:04] <bobweaver> montassar,  sorry :/
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> montassar: run:  sudo apt-get update    is it smooth?
[22:04] <ejv> if it's a raid1, it only needs to see one device, to start rebuilding to the spare
[22:04] <Guest28803> backtrack
 montassar: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" now
[22:04] <RickZilla> zvacet: is that done from software sources?
[22:05] <montassar> the same error always!
[22:05] <k1l> !backtrack | Guest28803
[22:05] <derpderpd> added mdadm --examine on sda3 https://gist.github.com/4219875
[22:05] <RickZilla> xangua, 32, but I don't want to purge them all, just ones that aren't needed...I'm also assuming that's done before upgrading to the next release?
[22:05] <k1l> montassar: show them to us, pleaase
[22:05] <testing> hm
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> Guest28803: #backtrack-linux is the channel for backtrack, not here
[22:05] <Guest94098> Does encryption nullify disk imaging? I recently decrypted my operating system drive but I'm trying to fix my non system drive, it was encrypted as a mounted volume and can only be decrypted as such. So I am making an image of it before I do anything else. Can imaged encrypted data be okay to use as backup?
[22:05] <xangua> RickZilla: if you are going to upgrade a major release, you want to purge them
[22:05] <derpderpd> sda3 is fine, it is just flagged as a spare
[22:06] <hilo> ejv, it only sees one device total. it needs 2. at least one member of the raid, and the spare
[22:06] <derpderpd> nothing works (removing, adding it etc)
[22:06] <DarkdowN> Any ideas why my HDD wont boot, or, what I can do to boot the install DVD when the graphics are all messed up?
[22:06] <RickZilla> xangua: Got it, I'll just purge them later when it comes time to upgrade
[22:06] <zvacet> RickZilla: you can do it that way or edit source list or try http://maketecheasier.com/search-manage-ppas-with-y-ppa-manager/2011/01/20
[22:06] <derpderpd> no
[22:06] <derpderpd> raid1 only needs 1 device to start
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> zvacet: I use duckduckgo for that, it has a !ppa bang
[22:06] <montassar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1413440/
[22:06] <Guest28803> oke thanks
[22:06] <xangua> RickZilla: you just want to make the easy hardy, good luck ;)
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> derpderpd: true but it will moan
[22:07] <xangua> harder*
[22:07] <ejv> i think he means "in order for a rebuild to begin" numerically you need 2
[22:07] <hilo> derpderpd, sda3 is the only drive at all showing to your mdadm
[22:07] <hilo> derpderpd, Where is the RAID1 member?
[22:07] <ejv> (the source and the spare)
[22:07] <RickZilla> xangua, not trying to make anything hard, just wanted to remove any potential conflicts
[22:07] <k1l> montassar: close all other programs like softwarecenter, synaptic, and terminals that run apt or dpkg
[22:07] <derpderpd> sda3 was previously disk 1 of the 2 disk array
[22:07] <derpderpd> until sdb3 failed
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> montassar: I'd just reboot, then try the update
[22:07] <bobweaver> montassar,  what does    lsof  /var/lib/apt/lists/lock     say ?
[22:07] <xangua> RickZilla: ppa-purge will remove any potential conflicts :)
[22:08] <RickZilla> xangua, k, I'll wait until upgrade time to do so
[22:08] <ejv> derpderpd: can you start the array with just sda3 ?
[22:08] <montassar> nothing!
[22:08] <derpderpd> ejv: no, wont start (no active devices etc)
[22:08] <hilo> derpderpd, what is the point of RAID1 on a single disk? You are killing the crap out of your performance.
[22:08] <derpderpd> sda3 flagged as spare, wont become active
[22:09] <derpderpd> hilo are you high
[22:09] <hilo> derpderpd, no.
[22:09] <hilo> derpderpd, are you?
[22:09] <derpderpd> scroll up and read again
[22:09] <derpderpd> i've said it twice, sdb3 failed
[22:09] <hilo> derpderpd, Sum it up and resend, the log here is a mess and you didn't tag me in your responses
[22:10] <montassar> should I reboot now?
[22:10] <derpderpd> disk has been replaced, i want to resolve this but sda3 is tagged as spare
[22:11] <SonikkuAmerica> derpderpd: Is it mounted?
[22:11] <derpderpd> no it isnt, cant even run the array
[22:11] <mikky> hello guys please how do i change the show desktop shortcut from ctrl+super+D to my own like custom shortcut key
[22:12] <PoolShark_> hi all... anyone know if it's possible and/or easy to enable writeback disk caching in Ubuntu?
[22:12] <SonikkuAmerica> derpderpd: You can't run [ sudo mount /dev/sda3 ]?
[22:12] <hilo> derpderpd, What was your set up when it was functioning
[22:12] <ejv> SonikkuAmerica: i think you jumped into the conversation late, he's trying to recover a failed RAID1
[22:13] <SonikkuAmerica> ejv: Oh, yep I did. Go ahead, I dunno a thing about RAID
[22:13] <derpderpd> BOOT: /dev/md0: /dev/sda1 + /dev/sdb1 (i have recovered this)
[22:13] <SonikkuAmerica> I only know SCSI
[22:13] <SonikkuAmerica> and such
[22:13] <ejv> derpderpd: the fact that sda3 is marked as a spare tells me there's an issue with it's synchronization, i'd be suspicious of read errors to that disk as well and start looking into /var/log/messages / dmesg
[22:13] <derpderpd> root: /dev/md1: /dev/sda3 + /dev/sdb3
[22:13] <derpderpd> there are no errors on sda in dmesg, only sdb
[22:13] <SonikkuAmerica> mikky: What's your GUI?
[22:14] <ejv> what does SMART say about sda ?
[22:14] <SonikkuAmerica> mikky: (Unity, KDE, etc.)?
[22:14] <mikky> SonikkuAmerica, Unity
[22:15] <derpderpd> ejv: smart for sda is fine
[22:15] <derpderpd> and so is its state as you can see here https://gist.github.com/4219875
[22:16] <SonikkuAmerica> mikky: Try using gconf-editor (run it from a terminal)
[22:16] <LABcrab> i'm really getting desperate.
[22:17] <ejv> derpderpd: if you're sure sda3 is consistent you can always try --assume-clean, which will skip any resync, but i'd be wary of trying write any data to it until it's known to be functioning
[22:17] <SonikkuAmerica> mikky: Or, if Compiz is enabled, install CompizConfig ( [ sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager ] ) and run it
[22:17] <SonikkuAmerica> LABcrab: What's up?
[22:17] <derpderpd> ejv: so, --create it again?
[22:18] <ejv> derpderpd: as always, make sure your backups are up-to-date before attempting anything radical
[22:18] <machicola> anyone know what are the good channels on freenode for Cpp programming language
[22:18] <machicola> nm
[22:18] <serp_> ##c++
[22:18] <k1l> !alis | machicola
[22:18] <machicola> ok, ty
[22:19] <Ampersand> Hi everyone! I have a problem: Empathy doesn't save the aliases that I set up for my Yahoo contacts. And I was wondering whether there's a way to make Empathy remember these Yahoo aliases? Whenever I set them, if i go offline and online again, they're all reset, showing the user ID rather than the alias I've set up. Is there a way to fix this?
[22:19] <k1l> machicola: besides that try #ubuntu-offtopic or #freenode
[22:19] <ejv> derpderpd: let me warn you again, --create --assume-clean destroys metadata
[22:19] <zvacet> mikky:  see http://askubuntu.com/questions/27775/keyboard-shortcut-to-minimize-all-windows
[22:19] <machicola> great, thanks k1l
[22:19] <mikky> SonikkuAmerica, i have opened gconf-editor
[22:19] <mikky> what next should i do?
[22:19] <ejv> derpderpd: so make sure your backups are fresh and that you have a copy of -E for each relevant device
[22:19] <SonikkuAmerica> zvacet: That's for Ubuntu 10.10
[22:19] <SonikkuAmerica> zvacet: running GNOME 2
[22:20] <SonikkuAmerica> mikky: Hold on a sec.
[22:20] <derpderpd> ejv: free file host, terabytes
[22:20] <Nik05> how do i redirect output from aa-status to a file?
[22:20] <derpderpd> obviously no backup
[22:20] <derpderpd> this is just a cheap server
[22:20] <ejv> derpderpd: i'd really contact the linux raid mailing list, because we're venturing outside the realm of support I can provide for you
[22:20] <Nik05> when i do `sudo aa-status --verbose > aa-status.log`
[22:20] <crimsonmane> Nik05: put "> filename"
[22:20] <Nik05> it doesnt put it in the file
[22:21] <ejv> derpderpd: i'm not really comfortable telling you what exactly you need to do, only hinting towards methods some people use
[22:21] <Nik05> when i use | tee file, it doesnt display to stdout or file
[22:21] <crimsonmane> Nik05: it replaces the file. if you want append use ">>"
[22:21] <Nik05> crimsonmane the file empty
[22:21] <SonikkuAmerica> mikky: OK, I made a mistake. Exit gconf-editor and do a Unity dash search for "shortcut
[22:22] <SonikkuAmerica> mikky: and then click on "Keyboard Shortcuts"
[22:22] <LABcrab> How do i get this (http://www.dreamcast-scene.com/guides/pct-dc-server-guide-win7/) working correctly in Ubuntu, please? i followed all the steps, but am getting "No Carrier" instead of the needed "Connect" from my Dreamcast.
[22:22] <ejv> derpderpd: register for the gmane.linux.raid newsgroup (it's free, but necessary before messages are posted to the board) and explain your case there
[22:23] <Nik05> crimsonmane when i use "sudo aa-status | tee file" i need to output directly on stdout and in the file right?
[22:23] <Nik05> *i need to get output
[22:23] <SonikkuAmerica> LABcrab: That's pretty hardcore stuff, trying to get a DC to work in Ubuntu
[22:23] <derpderpd> ejv: thanks, but i'll risk it
[22:23] <ejv> derpderpd: i really wouldn't, but you've been warned
[22:23] <Nik05> crimsonmane or do i get problem cause of sudo?
[22:24] <Ampersand> Hello! I have a question: Empathy doesn't save the aliases that I set up for my Yahoo contacts. Whenever I go offline and online again, they're all reset, showing the user ID rather than the alias I've set up. Is there a way to fix this? (Using Ubuntu 12.10 here)
[22:24] <ejv> --create is a destructive operation to metadata on the members, and you may just be shooting yourself in the foot
[22:24] <LABcrab> SonikkuAmerica: Why?  They listed the steps.
[22:24] <SonikkuAmerica> LABcrab: Actually I clicked on your link and got a 404
[22:24] <crimsonmane> Nik05: if ">" doesn't work then maybe you dont have permission to, in that folder, create a file
[22:25] <Nik05> crimsonmane it does create the file, and i have permissions
[22:25] <Nik05> i can use sudo su... but dont want to :P
[22:25] <derpderpd> ejv: since its only 1 drive then i dont see how metadata being recreated will do anything, if something is corrupted on sda then it will be corrupted on sdb when it resyncs
[22:26] <LABcrab> SonikkuAmerica: Sorry.  The link is http://www.dreamcast-scene.com/guides/pc-dc-server-guide-win7/
[22:26] <Nik05> or wait crimsonmane maybe i can use script
[22:27] <SonikkuAmerica> LABcrab: OK, I assume you installed mgetty, ppp, and gnome-ppp
[22:28] <LABcrab> SonikkuAmerica: All of these are installed  :) (BTW does your nick reference Sonic The Hedgehog?)
[22:28] <SonikkuAmerica> LABcrab: It does!
[22:28] <Nik05> ok crimsonmane im using script, and this does work. No idea whats going wrong with >
[22:28] <SonikkuAmerica> LABcrab: How'dya guess? And yes, b4 you ask, I'm from America.
[22:29] <LABcrab> SonikkuAmerica: :P
[22:29] <SonikkuAmerica> LABcrab: (LOL) The next thing to do is run "gnome-ppp" in a terminal
[22:29] <SonikkuAmerica> LABcrab: as root
[22:30] <ejv> sonic? man you guys are old :p
[22:30] <LABcrab> ejv: Mario Sonic Vancouver 2012 for the win! :-)
[22:30] <SonikkuAmerica> ejv: Old? Barely...
[22:30] <LABcrab> Wow fail on me, Vancouver 2010 it is.
[22:30] <SonikkuAmerica> LABcrab: I'll betcha there's a Rio 2012 release coming, but I digress
[22:31] <SonikkuAmerica> LABcrab: Go run [ sudo gnome-ppp ] in terminal
[22:31] <ElixirVitae> Hi!
[22:31] <SonikkuAmerica> ElixirVitae: 'ello guv-nor!
[22:31] <SonikkuAmerica> *guv'nor
[22:32] <ElixirVitae> Why does PPAs have different packages for different releases instead of one deb to rule them all?
[22:32] <SonikkuAmerica> ElixirVitae: Because some releases are still supported
[22:32] <SonikkuAmerica> Check the !topic
[22:33] <LABcrab> SonikkuAmerica: Isn't gnome-ppp's sole purpose to tell me my modem address (/dev/ttyACM0)?
[22:33] <ElixirVitae> Not that, SonikkuAmerica, I meant whether there is a difference?
[22:33] <SonikkuAmerica> LABcrab: (If you know where it is you can skip to the next step.
[22:33] <SonikkuAmerica> )
[22:33] <ElixirVitae> Aren't they essentially same?
[22:33] <riles_> I could really use a had got some major errors that I have no clue what to do with. I tried to update from 12.4 to 12.10 and now when I start I freeze after sign in or it happens 10 after. Currently computer is not working.
[22:33] <LABcrab> SonikkuAmerica: Alright.
[22:34] <SonikkuAmerica> ElixirVitae: Not necessarily, there may be certain dependencies that newer versions have
[22:34] <LABcrab> i have 25 minutes to get this to work.
[22:34] <SonikkuAmerica> LABcrab: now run [ sudo gedit /etc/ppp/options ]
[22:35] <dr_willis> ElixirVitae:  differnt releases ghave differnt versions of differnt libs. and thus need differnt compiled binaries
[22:35] <LABcrab> SonikkuAmerica: And populate it with the enclosed information?
[22:35] <gambitfan> labcrab you have to run gnu is not unix operating system
[22:35] <SonikkuAmerica> LABcrab: Yeah, here's a generic version: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=9VCPvczj
[22:36] <LABcrab> SonikkuAmerica: What do i put as ms-dns?  Is OpenDNS fine?
[22:36] <gambitfan> pile drive that sucker
[22:36] <SonikkuAmerica> LABcrab: Stick whatever DNS you wanna connect to in the uncommented line
[22:37] <ElixirVitae> oki, got it.
[22:37] <SonikkuAmerica> LABcrab: If you connect via OpenDNS that's just fine
[22:37] <LABcrab> SonikkuAmerica: Perfect. :)
[22:37] <SonikkuAmerica> LABcrab: You set?
[22:37] <gambitfan> do a uname -R
[22:37] <gambitfan> and give me the output
[22:38] <LABcrab> SonikkuAmerica: Yup. :)
[22:38] <LABcrab> gambitfan: me?
[22:38] <gambitfan> yes you
[22:38] <LABcrab> 3.2.0-34-generic
[22:38] <gambitfan> right now
[22:38] <SonikkuAmerica> LABcrab: Okie-dokie, have fun with your DC!
[22:38] <gambitfan> yup that's the one we're looking for
[22:38] <gambitfan> 3.2.0-34-gerneric
[22:39] <LABcrab> SonikkuAmerica: Thanks, but i think i previously had no problems with those steps.  Just some doubts with the DNS.
[22:39] <gambitfan> god what are we going to do with these generic guys
[22:39] <LABcrab> Thanks for effor though.
[22:39] <LABcrab> gambitfan: What's wrong with generic?
[22:39] <dr_willis> LABcrab:  i think it was trolling.
[22:39] <IdleOne> LABcrab: nothing, he was just trolling
[22:39] <dr_willis> and not very good trolling at that.
[22:40] <Ampersand> I have a question: Empathy doesn't save the aliases that I set up for my Yahoo contacts. Whenever I go offline and online again, they're all reset, showing the user ID rather than the alias I've set up. Is there a way to fix this? (Using Ubuntu 12.10 here)
[22:41] <SonikkuAmerica> Ampersand: That's a little weird...
[22:41] <SonikkuAmerica> Ampersand: (Sorry we didn't get to you soon enough)
[22:41] <Ampersand> no problem :)
[22:41] <LABcrab> SonikkuAmerica: Did you ever try out a Dreamcast server?
[22:41] <Ampersand> but i'm really puzzled here about this.. i mean it worked well until some time ago
[22:42] <SonikkuAmerica> LABcrab: Actually, no, but I have heard of things like Dreamlinux etc and wish I had one to try it out on... I loved playing DC when I was younger (I was about 6 when it came out)
[22:42] <Ampersand> and suddenly, all i see is the users' ID' rather than the aliases (and having a lot... i don't know who's who! :)
[22:42] <SonikkuAmerica> Ampersand: Is it saving aliases for all your other accounts?
[22:42] <Ampersand> yes
[22:43] <Guest94098> LABcrab: Oh damn! Dream cast! Sonic adventure 1&2 + Phantasy star online were the best!
[22:43] <Ampersand> i have no problem with GMail and XMPP
[22:43] <LABcrab> Guest12050: i bought it for homebrew more than for games.  Games are pricey!
[22:44] <Guest94098> Homebrew? what? you mean like emulation?
[22:44] <SonikkuAmerica> Guest94098: Forgive my offtopicness but if you're feeling nostalgic for PSO get SRB2 here (http://srb2.org/) and then Google "SF94-serv"
[22:44] <SonikkuAmerica> Ampersand: OK...
[22:44] <LABcrab> Guest16401: Bleemcast! and the browser for now.
[22:44] <derpderpd> ejv: [>....................]  recovery =  0.0% (204416/1394763640) finish=454.7min speed=51104K/sec
[22:44] <derpderpd> recreated it
[22:44] <derpderpd> thanks
[22:44] <derpderpd> seems to be working
[22:45] <Guest94098> aww hell thanks sonukkuamerica I'm not going to be able to get any work done now.\
[22:45] <SonikkuAmerica> Ampersand: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[22:45] <Ampersand> SonikkuAmerica, i use 12.10
[22:45] <SonikkuAmerica> Guest94098: You're welcome, pardon the Doom-like gfx :P XD
[22:45] <SonikkuAmerica> Ampersand: OK... hold on
[22:45] <Ampersand> ok, thanks
[22:46] <ejv> derpderpd: im happy for you :)
[22:46] <ejv> derpderpd: let this be a lesson RAID != backup. Get a backup going ASAP.
[22:47] <SonikkuAmerica> Ampersand: There seem to be several bugs reported for this, but they're all rather indecisive about what's causing it... it was a known issue in 10.10 but was fixed in a telepathy-haze package update
[22:47] <zoorg> anyone know the package that provides the gtk theme switcher in the system settings in kde? I asked in kubuntu, but it appears dead atm
[22:47] <derpderpd> I'm aware of that, however this is a free service and backing up terabytes isnt viable
[22:47] <derpderpd> I do back up the account information though
[22:47] <LABcrab> The Dreamcast server still does not work.  Says "Waiting for ''Connect''".
[22:48] <ejv> guess it depnds on how much value you place on the data, a couple 1 or 2TB disks are pretty cheap these days
[22:48] <Ampersand> SonikkuAmerica, the thing is that it used to work well until some time ago. It suddenly did this, without me doing anything special.. I mean I don't remember installing something
[22:48] <Ampersand> should I try to reinstall Empathy maybe?
[22:49] <b0ot> How would one use dnsmasq to allow one hostname to resolve to an ordered priorty list of IP addresses
[22:49] <SonikkuAmerica> Ampersand: If you haven't already, give it a shot (do a [ purge ], not a [ remove ])
[22:49] <zykotick9> zoorg: does this help http://askubuntu.com/questions/144642/how-to-theme-up-kde
[22:49] <Ampersand> SonikkuAmerica, ok, i'll do it now, just a moment
[22:49] <b0ot> IE foo.com -> <IP_ADDRESS> if down then <IP_ADDRESS> if down then <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:49] <Ampersand> purge Empathy or telepathy-haze?
[22:50] <Ampersand> or both? :)
[22:50] <Nik05> guys is this normal in apparmor: "1027035 profiles are in complain mode"?
[22:50] <zoorg> zykotick9: thanks, but I'm looking for the individual package in the repos
[22:51] <Nik05> and almost all of them are /usr/sbin/dovecot//null-26//null-27//null-xxxxx
[22:51] <Guest14564> can someone translate this for ubuntu?
[22:51] <Guest14564> If the volume is partition-hosted (applies also to USB flash drives), in addition to the steps 1-3, do the following:
[22:51] <Guest14564>     Right-click the 'Computer' (or 'My Computer') icon on your desktop, or in the Start Menu, and select Manage. The 'Computer Management' window should appear.
[22:51] <Guest14564>     In the Computer Management window, from the list on the left, select 'Disk Management' (within the Storage sub-tree).
[22:51] <Guest14564>     Right-click the partition you want to decrypt and select 'Change Drive Letter and Paths'.
[22:51] <FloodBot1> Guest14564: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:51] <Guest14564>     The 'Change Drive Letter and Paths' window should appear. If no drive letter is displayed in the window, click Add. Otherwise, click Cancel.
[22:52] <kriskropd> Guest14564: linux doesn't use lettered drives, we mount drives to directories, either in /media or /mnt
[22:52] <LABcrab> So what do i do now?  It's not working, but it should be working!
[22:52] <kriskropd> Guest14564: we attach drives from their device location in /dev (such as /dev/sda1 or /dev/sdba)
[22:52] <zykotick9> kriskropd: you can mount things anywhere in the filesystem...
[22:53] <kriskropd> zykotick9: "good practice" or w,e i know you can mount anywhere
[22:53] <SonikkuAmerica> LABcrab: You finished reading and following the instructions, right?
[22:53] <LABcrab> SonikkuAmerica: Yeah.
[22:53] <LABcrab> The problem is my Dreamcast won,t send a "Connect" command.
[22:53] <gigglefight> driver for ATI rage XL (Mach64) on board vga needed. i'd like to do update via terminal just don't know commands. i've looked over ubuntu forums. can't seem to install the driver
[22:54] <SonikkuAmerica> LABcrab: Are you using either Planetweb or dreamkey?
[22:54] <SonikkuAmerica> LABcrab: You need either of them
[22:54] <LABcrab> SonikkuAmerica: PlanetWeb.
[22:55] <LABcrab> i have five minutes left.  :(
[22:55] <gigglefight> i have looked on my 'additional drivers' and it notifies me that 'no proprietary drivers are in use on this system'
[22:56] <SonikkuAmerica> LABcrab: This is in Internet Connections ( http://paste.ubuntu.com/1413526/ ), right?
[22:56] <LABcrab> Yes, à la lettre.
[22:56] <LABcrab> It would say incorrect user if that was the problem.
[22:56] <SonikkuAmerica> LABcrab: And DNS1 and DNS2 in PlanetWeb are both <IP_ADDRESS>?
[22:57] <LABcrab> SonikkuAmerica: They are set to the OpenDNS DNSes and that doesn,t seem to affect outcome.
[22:57] <Ampersand> i'll BRB, I need to restart
[22:58] <LABcrab> Seems to be the same with PlanetWeb or DreamPassport.
[22:59] <SonikkuAmerica> LABcrab: They need to be set to <IP_ADDRESS> so that the /etc/ppp/options.<device> (whatever it is) can be detected by DHCP
[22:59] <SonikkuAmerica> The OpenDNS stuff goes in that file
[22:59] <SonikkuAmerica> Ampersand: OK
[23:00] <SonikkuAmerica> LABcrab: as per http://paste.ubuntu.com/1413532/
[23:00] <DarkdowN> gah maybe i ought just give up .. ta
[23:01] <montassar> hi again!
[23:01] <SonikkuAmerica> Hey
[23:01] <montassar> I have the problem with the updating ubuntu 12.04
[23:02] <SonikkuAmerica> montassar: What kind of problem?
[23:03] <montassar> I start updating from 12.04 to 12.10 with "sudo apt-get update", during the process, the laptop turned off
[23:03] <montassar> now, all the systemis going wrong
[23:03] <gigglefight> planning on installing wine and running amd's .exe for driver i hope that'll work.
[23:03] <LABcrab> This is taking way longer than it should.  Thanks for the help, but it is still stuck.  Chat later!
[23:03] <dr_willis> montassar:  your power died whild doing a sudo apt-get update?
[23:03] <montassar> yep
[23:03] <SonikkuAmerica> dr_willis: Line stealing XD
[23:03] <darkhalo117> Can't you run it again?
[23:04] <dr_willis> gigglefight:  trying to install a video card driver with wine?
[23:04] <montassar> error! duplicte source or somthing like that
[23:04] <gigglefight> smiles.
[23:04] <dr_willis> montassar:  that would be just a warning. and shouldent affect installing stuff
[23:05] <dr_willis> montassar:  how exactly where you trying to go from 12.04 to 12.10 ?
[23:05] <SonikkuAmerica> montassar: Yeah, if you're really concerned about it, just edit your sources.list
[23:05] <gigglefight> thanks. i'm installing wine right now. it'll be a few. i have downloaded the bundle.exe from amd site that has the older available drivers.
[23:06] <dr_willis> gigglefight:  err.. you dont use windows drivers on linux normally...
[23:06] <darkhalo117> Gigglefight why not just use ubuntu's driver manager?
[23:06] <gigglefight> dr_willis: quick question - difference between sudo apt-get install wine and sudo apt-get install winehq... i've 'wine' instead of 'winehq' i hope there's no difference.
[23:06] <montassar> but I can't update the systemany more, even the update manager wich I tried to update from, always died always with an error
[23:06] <dr_willis> !info winehq
[23:06] <dr_willis> ive never heard of winehq..
[23:07] <gigglefight> darkhalo117: i have. i get there are no proprietary drivers available.
[23:07] <dr_willis> theres the wine channel called that i think
[23:07] <dr_willis> !wine
[23:07] <ClientAlive> when I do "sudo apt-get upgrade" there is a whole slew of packages listed that are being "kept back". Why? Looking at the names they appear important.
[23:07] <SonikkuAmerica> montassar: "It is impossible to install or remove any software"?
[23:07] <dr_willis> gigglefight:   you dont use wine to install video card drivers.,
[23:07] <montassar> I didn't try, I just want to update to 12.10..
[23:08] <darkhalo117> Clientalive, if you are using the LTE it will not install the beta software so packages will be left out
[23:08] <SonikkuAmerica> montassar: Does [ sudo apt-get install -f ] in a terminal work?
[23:08] <darkhalo117> You can change that in update manager
[23:08] <dr_willis> montassar:   You mean upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10?  Update is somthing else. ;)
[23:08] <gigglefight> dr_willis: then what is there to use? the file from the site is an .exe
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> ClientAlive: if deps cannot be met then packages will not be installed. When they are satisfied they will come down
[23:08] <montassar> yes upgrade..
[23:08] <dr_willis> gigglefight:  no idea what you are doing.. but you DONT install video card drivers for your ati card with wine.
[23:09] <dr_willis> gigglefight:  if the card is very old then it may be  the FGLRX drivers no longer support it.
[23:09] <dr_willis> gigglefight:  and the included open sourced drivers are what the card uses.
[23:10] <gigglefight> dr_willis: it just maybe. problem with this server board is that i need a pci express x1 gpu; pci-x option is rare and/or too expensive. its on board vga, is bare minimum.
[23:10] <montassar> so I have http://paste.ubuntu.com/1413548/
[23:11] <gigglefight> dr_willis: yes. it's using open source
[23:11] <gigglefight> dr_willis: ...drivers
[23:11] <dr_willis> montassar:  you dont upgrade from an old release to a newer one via 'sudo apt-get upgrade'
[23:11] <MonkeyDust> montassar  try sudo apt-get update, first
[23:11] <dr_willis> montassar:  exactly HOW are you trying to go from 12.04 to 12.10 ?
[23:12] <montassar> I did, afer that?
[23:12]  * MonkeyDust hasnt followed and keeps silent
[23:12] <montassar> sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:12] <dr_willis> upgrade - will upgrade the current release to the latest packges in the current release. NOT to the next release
[23:13] <dr_willis> Unless you have been messing with the sources.list ;)
[23:13] <ClientAlive> darkhalo117: I run 12.04 lts (is that what you were referring to?). ActionParsnip: Does that apply to upgrades of packages that are installed on the system as well?
[23:13] <montassar> no I didn't
[23:13] <dr_willis> montassar:  so im asking exactly HOW/what exactly have you done.  you are trying to go from 12.04 to 12.10  correct?
[23:14] <montassar> correct
[23:14] <SonikkuAmerica> montassar: If you want to upgrade to 12.10 make sure your software software sources say "For any new version" then run Update Manager, or, in a terminal, type [ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ]
[23:14] <dr_willis> err.. dist-upgrade does NOT upgrade to the next release either.
[23:14] <SonikkuAmerica> *redundnacy... Ugh!
[23:14] <dr_willis> !upgrade
[23:15] <zykotick9> !dist-upgrade
[23:15] <SonikkuAmerica> dr_willis: Oops, you're right. Use [ update-manager -c ]
[23:15] <dr_willis> actually i think theres some OTHER needed option for update-manager also
[23:15] <SonikkuAmerica> dr_willis: Only if you want the next development release
[23:15] <emx> how do i install skype without any :i386 packages? (146 mb just for skype is ...)
[23:15] <SonikkuAmerica> The / -d / switch
[23:16] <krabador> hi, i can't install nvidia-173, because the packages on the repos are not supporting xorg 1.13 . I  installed perfectly the .run package from nvidia, but i've 3d desktop issues, all right with 2d. what can i do?
[23:16] <dr_willis> or from LTS to a NON-LTS release i think..  but i always do clean installs. ;)
[23:16] <zykotick9> emx: you can't - skype IS 32bit, 64bit doesn't exist
[23:16] <jrib> emx: does skype provide a 64bit package?  disk space is fairly abundant nowadays...
[23:16] <zykotick9> jrib: it's just the 32bit, with the required 32->64 libraries
[23:17] <emx> zykotick9, jrib. i see, using a virtualbox is the way to go :P
[23:17] <jrib> emx: heh...
[23:18] <Staiden> Hey guys, a buddy and I are using 10.10 server and we are having problems getting it connected to the internet. wonderd if you guys could give us some direction
[23:18] <jrib> !10.10 | Staiden
[23:18] <SonikkuAmerica> 10.10 is no longer supportes.
[23:18] <Staiden> ahh
[23:18] <SonikkuAmerica> *supported
[23:19] <Staiden> we were going to use that because we wanted to use open panel
[23:19] <SonikkuAmerica> But you can upgrade to at least Oneiric
[23:19] <SonikkuAmerica> Even better, Precise
[23:19] <SonikkuAmerica> Open panel? What's that?
[23:20] <Staiden> its a open source Cpanel
[23:20] <SonikkuAmerica> It doesn't work in Oneiric or Precise?
[23:20] <emx> how do i activate mod_rewrite in apache?
[23:20] <Staiden> not sure
[23:20] <gigglefight> dr_willis: just found the wine install driver .exe thing didn't work. thanks for menioning it.
[23:20] <jrib> emx: use a2enmod
[23:20] <Staiden> we diddnt know if it would be compatible with the newer versions
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> Staiden: i recommend a clean install of Precise. It is supported til April 2017
[23:21] <Staiden> ok
[23:21] <Staiden> sounds good to me :0
[23:21] <Staiden> :)
[23:21] <SonikkuAmerica> Staiden: OpenPanel now distributes a lightweight version of OpenPanel called OpenApp which is supported on all supported versions of Ubuntu
[23:22] <Makdaam> hello
[23:22] <Staiden> sweet
[23:23] <Makdaam> I just installed byobu, and there aren't many settings under F9, how can I configure the hardstatus line?
[23:23] <kandinski> I have found out my .bash_profile is not being read. `which sh` gives me /bin/sh, which is a symlink to dash. However, my .bashrc is being read. What is going on?
[23:24] <Staiden> you guys rock, i should have been on here last night
[23:24] <b0ot> Anyone know how to use dnsmasq to have one hostname resolve to multiple IP addresses (based on priority/availablity)
[23:24] <jrib> kandinski: what shell is your login shell?
[23:24] <kandinski> on the other side, echo $SHELL says /bin/bash, and my login shell is... (I can see it in /etc/passwd, right?)
[23:25] <emx> jrib, thanks
[23:25] <kandinski> /bin/bash
[23:25] <jrib> kandinski: what makes you believe that .bash_profile is not being sourced?
[23:25] <SonikkuAmerica> See you later everyone!
[23:26] <kandinski> jrib, I `$ exec $SHELL` to launch a new environment, and my $PATH remains unmodified
[23:27] <jrib> kandinski: .bash_profile (by the way ubuntu has a .profile by default but if you've created a .bash_profile it will be preferred) will only be sourced for a login shell
[23:27] <Makdaam> nvm, fixed it by `apt-get purge byobu` and editing .screnrc by hand :)
[23:27] <kandinski> whereas if I run by hand the `export PATH` comand I have, I see the new $PATH
[23:28] <kandinski> jrib, hmm, so not any shell I launch from X?
[23:28]  * kandinski goes read documentation about differences between .bash_profile and .bashrc
[23:28] <kandinski> jrib, is ubuntu standard in this behaviour?
[23:29] <jrib> kandinski: right.  But ~/.profile (maybe ~/.bash_profile too) will get sourced when you login initially and your shells in X will inherit those values.  This is standard bash behavior, it's documented in « man bash »
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> kandinski: do you have ~/.profile and ~/.bashrc ?
[23:29] <kandinski> jrib, thanks. will read difference between .bashrc (where I plop everything, really) and .bash_profile (which was empty until I read these instructions for rbenv)
[23:30] <dr_willis> kandinski:  to a 'xterm -ls' (for login shell) and .bash_profile will be read..   I belive.. normal 'xterm' it will not
[23:30] <jrib> kandinski: you should notice that ~/.profile is not empty.  PATH changes are something you should be doing in ~/.profile
[23:30] <kandinski> I did have a .profile, but I now find that it will not be read now that I have a .bash_profile
[23:30] <jrib> kandinski: correct
[23:31] <kandinski> oh, thanks everyone. I am writing now a fix to these instructions I found. is .profile ubuntu-only?
[23:31] <Ampersand> re-hi everyone! I uninstalled (purge) both telepathy-haze and empathy (did autoremove after that)... reinstalled them... but no luck there, still the aliases are not shown
[23:31] <kandinski> these are the instructions: https://github.com/sstephenson/rbenv
[23:31] <Staiden> does Precise have a sever version?
[23:31] <kandinski> I'd like to fix them so the next ubuntu user that finds them doesn't fall in the same trap I did
[23:32] <jrib> kandinski: I'm fairly certain I remember some users coming in here because of that page; would be nice to have it fixed
[23:32] <kandinski> so a couple more questions. Is .profile ubuntu-only? If so, what's the rationale to deviate from the bash standard .bash_profile?
[23:33] <kandinski> so the current info has a Zsh note. I will add a Ubuntu note along the lines of:
[23:33] <gigglefight> dr_willis: just realized that i need to reboot. after the reboot, i will type: "sudo apt-get install fglrx fglrx-amdcccle" into terminal.
[23:33] <kandinski> "Ubuntu note: path modification should be done in .profile, not in .bash_profile."
[23:34] <jrib> kandinski: both would work, it's just that ubuntu already sets up a .profile by default and as you noted it won't get executed if a user creates a .bash_profile
[23:35] <jrib> kandinski: http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bash.html talks about ~/.profile so I assume it's not ubuntu-specific
[23:36] <kandinski> so it would be better to word it "ubuntu users are advised to add path changes to their .profile, not their .bash_profile"
[23:36] <jrib> kandinski: sure, that seems reasonable
[23:37] <dr_willis> link the 2 files. ;)
[23:38] <dr_willis> http://superuser.com/questions/278433/whats-the-difference-between-profile-and-bash-profile-and-when-do-you-config
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> kandinski: run:  sudo cp /root/.bash $HOME; sudo cp /root/.profile $HOME; sudo chown $USER:$USER ~/.bashrc; sudo chown $USER:$USER ~/.profile; source ~/.bashrc    and you will have a stock bashrc etc
[23:38] <Panik> hey can I ask for help here? I'm running Ubuntu but am having a problem with syncing Ipod library... should I be asking here or somewhere else ?
[23:38] <Staiden> whats the best software to make a ubuntu install usb key when using windows 7
[23:38] <jrib> ActionParsnip: the stock files are in /etc/skel/
[23:39] <jrib> Panik: here is fine
[23:39] <kandinski> and then where it says "Restart your shell so the path changes take effect.", say `$ exec $SHELL -ls`
[23:39] <kandinski> ok, clear
[23:39] <hauck> anyone know any reasonable open source POS systems for linux, ubuntu specifically?
[23:39] <kandinski> ActionParsnip: that would be catastrophic for me; I have a very customised .bashrc
[23:39] <crimsonmane> point of sale, hauck ?
[23:39] <jrib> kandinski: well just keep in mind that will only affect the current shell
[23:39]  * kandinski makes a note to save his dotfiles somewhere
[23:40] <hauck> crimsonmane: yes
[23:40] <kandinski> jrib, but that's the problem that has been hounding me
[23:40] <crimsonmane> hauck: LemonPOS
[23:40] <Panik> okay well I tried using Banshee, and uh Rhythmbox, now  when I connect my ipod mini I see all my files and I'm trying to sync my new library so it deletes all my music on my ipod and then copies shit over, and its all fine and dandy until I disconnect my ipod then it like reverts back to my old library and just trips out
[23:40] <jrib> kandinski: afaik, you have to log out and back in if you are making changes to ~/.profile
[23:40] <kandinski> I haven't logged in again since I installed rbenv, so it isn't working for me. I will add that this needs to be done until one logs in again.
[23:40] <dr_willis> some good info on .profile vs .bash_profile here
[23:40] <dr_willis>  http://superuser.com/questions/183870/difference-between-bashrc-and-bash-profile
[23:41] <crimsonmane> Panik: you have to "safely remove" or "eject" the ipod. it doesn't write the files immediately, it stores them in ram
[23:41] <kandinski> jrib, I am 99.99% sure these instructions are written from and for MacOS
[23:41] <Panik> crimsonmane I did tho
[23:41] <Panik> I clicked eject in banshee
[23:41] <crimsonmane> Panik: i can be of no further assistance. good luck. i hope all works out for you :(
[23:41] <kandinski> when I have some time I am going to test them on my wife's computer, see if they work there. Maybe MacOS shells source the .profile with every invocation of the terminal. I dunno.
[23:41] <Panik> lol thanks you evil person jk
[23:41] <crimsonmane> lol
[23:42] <Panik> does freenode have a ipod channel?
[23:42] <crimsonmane> Panik: when you eject inside banshee does it unmount it from the filesystem?
[23:42] <Panik> yes
[23:42] <jrib> kandinski: probably, the terminal emulator might just spawn a login shell everytime
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> kandinski: I see
[23:42] <dr_willis> kandinski:  OS_X is based on BSD. so it may not be using the same 'bash' as linux
[23:42] <Panik> you mean like within banshee ?
[23:42] <Panik> or from my file manager?
[23:42] <LynnLea> ola...
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> kandinski: try the .profile file at least :)
[23:42] <crimsonmane> Panik: you should eject it using the file manager (or terminal if you prefer) but i do not know if ejecting it from banshee does the same thing
[23:42] <kandinski> thanks everyone, though. I have fixed my problem and also found a way to fix the instructions for the project. Yay!
[23:43] <Panik> so I should sync my library with banshee then uh
[23:43] <LynnLea> i need to completely remove the existing java version and replace it with a specific version
[23:43] <Panik> what would the terminal command look like
[23:43] <LynnLea> how do i go about doing it?
[23:43] <Panik> never mounted or unmounted shit in terminal before
[23:43] <LynnLea> i tried locating the java package, but when i do a dpkg -l
[23:43] <kandinski> ActionParsnip: I have also moved the .bashProfile info to .profile
[23:43] <IdleOne> Panik: Please, no need for bad language.
[23:44] <LynnLea> theres too many packages and i cannot even scroll up to the very top of my terminal console
[23:44] <kandinski> shit, I still can't find asciidoc
[23:44] <kandinski> grumble!
[23:44] <IdleOne> !language | kandinski
[23:45] <Roddan> Hello anyone can help me install Ubuntu?
[23:45] <dr_willis> LynnLea:  you can have more then one java instaled and use the 'altneratives' system to select the one thtas used.
[23:45] <kandinski> apologies
[23:45] <kandinski> still, the expletive was warranted
[23:45] <Roddan> Anyone willing to help me fix my problem: unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[23:45] <kandinski> $expletive!, I still can't find asciidoc
[23:45] <LynnLea> hmmm
[23:45] <kandinski> anyhow, thanks jrib, dr_willis and ActionParsnip, I learned new things today.
[23:45] <LynnLea> ok i have 1.6.0_24
[23:46] <LynnLea> the application requires 1.6
[23:46] <Roddan> Anyone please I get this upon install when I restart the computer: unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[23:46] <LynnLea> how do i now install 1.6?
[23:46] <LynnLea> will there be any conflict?
[23:46] <Panik> well im going to get high and figure it out crimson
[23:46] <Panik> I'll try what you suggest tho
[23:46] <LynnLea> dr_willis: im just afraid of conflicts
[23:46] <Panik> and unmounting from something besides banshee
[23:46] <Roddan> I cant install ubuntu I just get this: unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[23:47] <Roddan> anyone know why?
[23:47] <dr_willis> LynnLea:  sort of the whole point of the altneratives system is to not have conflicts.  Or just fire up synaptic and remoive the other javas i guess.
[23:47] <dr_willis> !java
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> Roddan: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[23:47] <minuteman_> hola a todos,
[23:47] <dr_willis> Roddan:  theres NO need to msg people  things like 'please help me....'
[23:48] <minuteman_> alguien podria ayudarme, no encuentro los paquetes devel de mysql, mysql-devel
[23:48] <minuteman_> los necesito para tener soporte mysql en php
[23:48] <minuteman_> alguien podria ayudarme con eso?
[23:50] <emx> i get this message in firefox when trying to make an https connection: ssl_error_rx_record_too_long. in the lotg file i see a 501 error (i think): \x16\x03\x01. according to a site it's because mod_ssl was not loaded. a2enmod tells me it is used. what now?
[23:51] <emx> i was following this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/httpd.html#https-configuration
[23:52] <zykotick9> emx: 8.04 - perhaps a newer guide would help?
[23:52] <Argure> okay, shorewall6, y u no work?
[23:52] <Argure> I configured you, and yet you refuse to start?
[23:53] <emx> zykotick9, is there a page with the latest howtos? google gives me old articles with high page ranks...
[23:53] <zykotick9> emx: not that "I" know of.  but don't expect things from 8.04 to be the same as today
[23:55] <Roddan> Ok I got a problem. The HASH on wubi.exe isnt the same what shall I do?
[23:56] <Roddan> Ok I got a problem. The HASH on wubi.exe isnt the same what shall I do?
[23:56] <dr_willis> redownload...
[23:56] <dr_willis> or dont use wubi.. is a better idea
[23:57] <dr_willis> bbl. work time
[23:57] <Roddan> I have to use wubi.exe to install Linux. I cant use CD or USB
[23:58] <sin_tax> I just deleted initrd.img and vmlinuz from / on accident.. how bad is that and what can I do to recover?
[23:59] <ejv> would you like it on a scale from 1 to 10?


[00:02] <psidrum> are there any programs that can control a movie player using a midi device
[00:05] <acerimmer> psidrum: still there?
[00:05] <psidrum> yea
[00:07] <acerimmer> psidrum: not sure what you're asking - plz elaborate
[00:08] <psidrum> id like to control movie player using a midi device, like map the controls to a joggle shuttle or a keyboard to trigger the player to play stop rewind
[00:09] <acerimmer> psidrum: ah.  sorry, a little over my head.
[03:06] <psidrum> anyone know a good audio/video desktop capture program that can record jack audio output
[07:28] <initself> i can't get any sound
[07:28] <initself> but there's no errors
[07:28] <initself> argh
[07:48] <psidrum> are there any midi apps that can control mplayer, so i can use a midi device to control it
[09:23] <andyzweb> psidrum: I don't think there are any
[09:25] <andyzweb> psidrum: Mplayer does have Joystick control, and various remote control options. It also has JACK as an output driver
[09:26] <psidrum> how do i set it
[09:27] <andyzweb> mplayer -ao jack
[09:27] <andyzweb> I don't know about joystick control though :(
[09:40] <psidrum> just found one looks like Lives has the feature allows me to map my midi dj controller to its controls nice
[13:39] <tittn> hello
[13:39] <tittn> is there somebody here that can help me with lib error ?
[13:39] <skx> probably not, but it can't hurt if you try and ask
[13:40] <astraljava> tittn: Better to just state the problem, so someone can respond if they have an idea.
[13:40] <tittn> can i paste ?
[13:40] <tittn> :^^^
[13:40] <skx> tittn, pastebin.com
[13:40] <tittn> ok
[13:40] <tittn> http://pastebin.com/vCJzjSbA
[13:41] <tittn> its an error i get when i run srcds server from my ubuntu studio box
[13:41] <tittn> but have no clue how to fix it
[13:45] <astraljava> tittn: Hard to say, looks like others are having the same problem: http://forums.srcds.com/viewtopic/6980
[13:48] <tittn> yea had to change something in srcds_run to unlmited to get more information
[13:49] <tittn> else it was some hex code :p
[13:51] <tittn> think i should have taken the latest version of ubuntu studio :p
[13:57] <astraljava> tittn: Which release are you running now?
[14:05] <tittn> 10.4
[14:05] <tittn> but been googling just now
[14:05] <tittn> could it be it was becous i dint have the package eglibc-source
[14:05] <skx> it is the latest version of ubuntu studio
[14:05] <astraljava> tittn: That _is_ the latest release.
[14:08] <tittn> but is the latest version always the best option? xD
[14:09] <skx> no
[14:10] <skx> this time it does seem to be though
[14:11] <astraljava> tittn: Always depends on the software that you're using with it.
[14:12] <tittn> prettymuch nothing special
[14:12] <tittn> just srcds and the desktop
[14:13] <astraljava> tittn: What I mean is, there are almost always different versions of the software that you're gonna use. Some of them work better than the others.
[14:13] <tittn> ah like that
[14:14] <tittn> should i post this error on forums ?
[14:14] <astraljava> tittn: Usually distro builders assume that newer releases from upstream work better than the previous, so almost in every case the most recent is included.
[14:14] <astraljava> tittn: That's the best bet, yeah. And<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[14:15] <tittn> just mail to that with what subject ?
[14:15] <astraljava> tittn: I don't see it as a Ubuntu Studio -specific, but you can try<EMAIL_ADDRESS>as well.
[14:15] <astraljava> tittn: Try to be descriptive, and give as much information regarding your setup as possible.
[14:16] <tittn> like uname -a
[14:18] <skx> I would rather try steam forums
[14:20] <tittn> that debug log has been mailed sevral times now ^^
[14:20] <tittn> it does that auto
[14:20] <tittn> but i can try
[14:22] <astraljava> tittn: Yes, uname -a is good, also what you pastebinned should be included.
[14:25] <tittn> uhm
[14:25] <tittn> Technical details of permanent failure:
[14:25] <tittn> Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the recipient domain.
[14:25] <tittn> can mail to them both or what
[14:26] <tittn> ubuntu studio gets rejected :p
[14:26] <astraljava> tittn: Have you subscribed to the lists? I don't know if that's required, but might be.
[14:26] <tittn> ah
[14:27] <tittn> how i do that
[14:27] <astraljava> tittn: Sorry, it's<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[14:27] <rlameiro> what gets rejected?
[14:28] <tittn> ah ok
[14:28] <tittn> solved :D
[14:31] <tittn> awaiting mod
[14:33] <tittn> ow somthing other i was wondering about
[14:33] <tittn> is there any way to force a programs state that it doesnt go into sleep state
[14:37] <astraljava> tittn: No idea, sorry.
[20:02] <rlameiro> meeting time friends
[21:52] <astraljava> andyzweb: Can you pop in on #ubuntustudio-devel?


[16:55] <c001130> Hello, can someone help me using Pyotherside in QML?
[16:56] <c001130> I am trying to write a small app with pyotherside using the Ubuntu SDK. I have a qmake project and I try to "import io.thp.pyotherside 1.4"
[16:57] <c001130> But when I run the code, I get: module "io.thp.pyotherside" is not installed
[16:58] <c001130> It is strange because when I try to apt-get pyother side, I get: pyotherside is already the newest version (1.4.0-2).


[11:17] <hvn2> hi, question on boot: is the /boot/abi file necessary for successful booting ? I've been reading about abi but can't figure this out
[11:39] <infinity> hvn2: No, it's just there as a reference.
[11:46] <hvn2> inifinity: ok, thank you. I'm trying to figure out why my custom kernel 3.5.7 (for 12.04) won't boot and keeps hanging at "Uncompressing Linux... done, booting the kernel.". So far I found no solution.
[12:28] <apw> hvn2, that is very early, try adding debug and loglevel=9 to the boot
[12:28] <apw> hvn2, also does the mainline 3.5.7
[12:28] <apw> boot for your machine
[12:29] <apw> hvn2, as infinity says the /boot/abi is not used at runtime at all
[12:30]  * apw hates on debconf questions which always appear 10s after you leave an upgrade to finish by itself
[12:31] <hvn2> apw: where should I add debug and loglevel ?
[12:32] <hvn2> apw: e.g. in the kernel or in boot.scr ?
[12:34] <apw> on the kernel command line, however you are setting that
[12:34] <apw> as it is a boot.scr i assume it is some kind of arm board
[12:35] <hvn2> apw: yes it is an armv7 board
[12:37] <hvn2> apw: I assume then I should put loglevel=9 in boot.scr ?
[12:39] <apw> and debug in whever you set the kernel command line
[12:39] <apw> that is likely there, but i don't have the same boards, and they don't all work the saem
[12:41] <hvn2> apw: do you have a suggestion for how to put debug  ?
[12:42] <apw> debug is the word you want, like loglevel it instructs the kernel to be noisier
[12:43] <hvn2> so, just put the word debug in boot.scr ?
[12:49] <apw> hvn2, put it with loglevel=9 in the kernel command line specification hwever that is done in your boot loader
[12:50] <hvn2> apw: ok
[13:12] <hvn2> apw: I put loglevel and debug in boot.scr and rebooted...it hangs again, but how do I check on the loglevel and debug now ?
[13:42] <hvn2> apw: the syslog is only started after starting the kernel, not after boot ?
[14:12] <arges_> smb: hello. i see the neutron kernel crash bug has some more comments.
[14:12] <arges> smb: I wonder if it makes sense for us to provide a machine one of their developers can access so they can setup a reproducer and then we can crash it at will and perform experiements?
[14:12] <smb> arges, Yeah, not more to work on though , yet
[14:12] <arges> and also snapshot it
[14:13] <smb> arges, Feel free to offer that to them
[14:17] <arges> smb: or would it be too much to ask them to reproduce in a VM, then tar it up so we can download the disk?
[14:19] <smb> arges, Well that might be simplifying the setup. If they can get a kexec crash they can share with us that sounded good enough. And meanwhile try to find a simpler reproducer
[14:20] <smb> If ones is found we learn more about the trigger, too
[14:20] <arges> yup
[14:20] <smb> If not, maybe still we are lucky and get a dump
[14:20] <arges> smb: so stilll 1) get a crash dump 2) get a reproducer?
[14:21] <smb> That was my thinking when proposing it. Or rather 1) get the crashdump and while waiting 2) try to get a reporducer. Not sure I was clear  with that :)
[14:23] <smb> arges, Getting a setup locally may or may not be sucessful. Ok, it could be but also we could find out that it needs a certain environment in which the host is to trigger
[14:24] <smb> Ok, we could realize that when trying to find a reproducer, too
[14:24] <arges> smb: i'll send an email with this info you can reply with clarifications
[14:27] <smb> arges, ok, wfm
[19:23] <apw> b 3
[20:39] <miseria> "nunca trates de abarcar el mundo con las dos manos, al final de tus dias, te quedaras sin manos y sin mundo" *bienvenidos: http://castroruben.com *temo_a_un_ser_sin_rival*
[21:11] <stgraber> so we have a regression with 3.13 on the wandboard... my box won't boot with 3.13.0-11. Last running kernel was -6, will try to figure out exactly which upload broke it now.
[21:31] <stgraber> 3.13.0-10.30 to 3.13.0-11.31 is where the regression happened
[21:32] <stgraber> hmm, that doesn't make much sense looking at what changed in 3.13.0-11.31...
[21:34] <stgraber> yeah, that actually doesn't make any sense seeing that the armhf configuration didn't change at all in that upload (just bits being moved to common)
[21:35] <stgraber> I guess we'll see if 3.13.0-12.32 magically works (in which case I'll blame cosmic rays), if not, then maybe something toolchainy changed?


[05:12] <mup> PR snapcraft#1645 opened: Ruby plugin: new stable release 2.4.2 <Created by nathanhaines> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/1645>


[04:56] <nader> hi
[06:46] <ubmt> hail hydra
[07:59] <ole_> hello frinds  off ubuntu
[08:00] <ole_> friends sorry
[08:01] <ole_> somebody here ?
[08:02] <diogenes_> aha
[08:03] <ole_> diogenes  can you se me?????
[08:03] <diogenes_> I can't
[08:03] <ole_> you can't ???
[08:04] <diogenes_> no webcam allowed on freenode
[12:04] <usrshv> hi! do somebody know how can i choose right keyboard layout for my laptop? $ and euro symbols placed just up from the arrow-keys. they didnt working.. but "friendstream" key (up from the num-pad) works, so i able to bind firefox on it. I want to bind other things on the currency symbols keys, but they not working. SHIFT+4 works.
[12:40] <usrshv> ok, i will leave things as they are. only two keys not works, anyway. Good Bye!
[15:22] <DragoniaX> hello everyone, is here someone who can help me with the nvidia drivers the screen shows tearings
[16:53] <alumne> hola
[16:56] <diogenes_> hola
[22:38] <elooplc> Hello
[22:49] <swift110> hey all
[22:55] <roland_> hello


[21:13] <Kira9204> Might not be the right place to ask but why isn't the net bios name set in smb.conf by default? I spent hours trying to get my TV box to find my ubuntu SMB share and well, that and bcast first in resolve order solved it


[21:19] <leoquant> Hai all i have published two ubuntu-nl loco events on: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/LoCoCalendar this day and next week 22 jan. 19.30 but i dont see them on the calendar but some people do see them, could someone explain how this is possible, and how i solve this problem?
[21:22] <leoquant> i disabled optimize google add-on, and even apparmor on firefox/ refreshed the page a hundred times etc etc


[05:14] <Sylvester_Ink> hey all
[05:14] <Sylvester_Ink> I'm eager to install Ubuntu Studio, but my preferred desktop environment is KDE
[05:14] <Sylvester_Ink> How well does KDE perform with Ubuntu Studio?
[05:41] <ScottL> Sylvester_Ink, i've seen posts at Ubuntu Forums that mention they use KDE with Studio
[05:42] <Sylvester_Ink> Ah, I checked but couldn't find any.  Probably didn't look hard enough :P
[05:42] <Sylvester_Ink> Thanks!
[05:44] <Sylvester_Ink> One other thing, I mainly use linux for programming, but would like to toy around with Ubuntu Studio.  Is there anything I should know about this setup, or should it work just the same as a standard ubuntu install
[05:46] <ScottL> it works pretty much the same, it should at least because it's the same code base
[05:46] <Sylvester_Ink> Okay, I figured as much.  Just wanted to make sure the optimizations didn't introduce anything new I should be aware of
[05:46] <Sylvester_Ink> (Still new at developing on Linux)
[05:50] <_guitarman_> ScottL: i tried the low-latency kernel - didn't seem to make much difference compared to the generic
[05:50] <_guitarman_> ScottL: not sure what others are finding
[05:50] <_guitarman_> but thats what happened on my mininote
[13:54] <ScottL> _guitarman_, thanks for the information
[13:57] <ScottL> that's kinda surprising, the order is supposed to go -generic -> -preempt -> -lowlatency -> -rt
[13:57] <ScottL> so the lowlatency should be pretty aggressive for low latency (no pun intended)
[13:57] <ScottL> here's a good wiki page that abogani worked up
[13:57] <ScottL> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/RealTimeKernel
[13:58] <ScottL> if you want the 2.6.32 -rt kernel for i386 it is available in abogani's ppa (see link above for another link to the ppa)
[14:13] <ScottL> oh, i should point out that the kernel wiki page listed above needs a little clean up which i have been meaning to do
[14:14] <ScottL> but if you see something that needs correcting (e.g. a typo, something you know is wrong) then please log into the wiki and fix it!
[14:14] <ScottL> this applies to everyone who uses Ubuntu Studio and has an account on wiki.ubuntu.com
[14:15] <ScottL> i would encourage everyone to make corrections and even add pages that you think are necessary
[14:18] <jussi> ScottL: just so you dont have to go find it in the future:
[14:18] <jussi> !rt
[14:19] <jussi> although that  page could do with an update....
[15:15] <ScottL> thanks jussi!
[15:16] <jussi> :)
[15:57] <funkyHat> The -rt kernel could do with an update too :(
[16:06] <ScottL> why do you say that funkyHat ?
[16:06] <ScottL> are you speaking of the -rt kernel version in the official repository?
[16:07] <edakiri> I got a tip here that looked good but I lost it due to a crash, so I ask again.  I already searched the IRC logs for the answer.  I was told of an audio player written for dot.Net/CIL which allows rating songs.  What is the name?
[16:07] <funkyHat> ScottL: yes
[16:08] <ScottL> if so, you can get the 2.6.32 -rt kernel from Alessio Bogani's PPA
[16:08] <ScottL> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/RealTimeKernel
[16:08] <ScottL> funkyHat, look at the link above which has a link to his ppa :)
[16:08] <funkyHat> Mm, he suggested I do that on a bug I reported, but I haven't tried it yet. I should do.
[16:08] <funkyHat> Hopefully fglrx works with it...
[16:09] <astraljava> ScottL: From abogani's PPA:  linux-realtime   2.6.31-12.21   Alessio Igor Bogani  (2010-03-08)
[16:09] <ScottL> hmmm, maybe it's in the ubuntu studio ppa...hold on
[16:10] <ScottL> i seem to remember that bogani had created a 2.6.32 -rt kernel
[16:11] <astraljava> Seems he hasn't uploaded it, then.
[16:11] <astraljava> ~ubuntustudio-dev has an even older version.
[16:12] <ScottL> 2.6.32-12.40~ppa1 -lowlatency for amd64 ->   https://launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/+archive/ppa/+build/1498091
[16:13] <ScottL> 2.6.32-12.40~ppa1 -lowlatency for i386 -> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/+archive/ppa/+build/1498092
[16:13] <ScottL> but no -rt kernel :(
[16:14] <astraljava> How did you dig those up? They're not in the package listing.
[16:17] <ScottL> i started with the ubuntustudio-dev ppa and 'view package details'
[16:18] <ScottL> then 'view all builds' and then filter by 'successfully built'
[16:19] <ScottL> ah, but the long and short is that i need to talk with abogani again and clarify my understanding of the kernels apparently :(
[16:19] <ScottL> maybe a chart on one of the wiki pages with the current available kernels and their locations
[18:27] <_guitarman_> ScottL: thx - i added the repo which is how i got the low-latency kernel... its a good page on describing whats what, but yeah, didn't notice much.
[23:11] <psidrum> why does ubuntu studio use a different installer?
[23:11] <psidrum> why not use the regular ubuntu installer, i cant get my wifi working with the ubuntu studio staller