[17:50] <agliodbs> Sazpaimon_: what hardware?
[17:51] <Sazpaimon_> agliodbs, synaptics
[17:51] <ghyths> hello guys
[17:51] <Sazpaimon_> circular scrolling scrolls too fast, and when I plug in a second display, the movement speed goes haywire
[17:51] <agliodbs> Sazpaimon_: what computer?
[17:52] <Sazpaimon_> sager NP9170
[17:52] <agliodbs> Sazpaimon_: I'm using an ASUS with a synaptics touchpad, works great
[17:52] <agliodbs> although IIRC I had to tweak it
[17:52] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[17:52] <agliodbs> Sazpaimon_: look for guides on tweaking the ASUS Zenbook for Ubuntu
[17:52] <agliodbs> there's a few, and I know the touchpad was addresse
[17:53] <Sazpaimon_> agliodbs, I've already done a bunch of tweaking to even get circular scrolling to work
[17:53] <agliodbs> circular scrolling?
[17:53] <Sazpaimon_> I still cannot resolve the fact that the horizontal speed goes crazy when plugging in a second display and moving it to the side
[17:53] <Sazpaimon_> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics#Circular_Scrolling
[17:54] <Sazpaimon_> also, the motions I need to make to get circular scrolling to work is not good at all, compared to windows
[17:54] <pierce> so something I installed pulled in nvidia dependencies on my intel graphics laptop, and now even after removing nvidia stuff, GLX is still way broken.  Anyone have any magical suggestions?
[17:55] <Sazpaimon_> no matter what I set the delta to, it sometimes works and sometimes doesn't
[17:55] <Sazpaimon_> but more than anything, the horizontal speed when having a second display is the biggest issue
[17:56] <Jays> Hi
[17:56] <Sazpaimon_> Jays, please dont PM me
[17:56] <Jays> Sorry m new.
[17:57] <swazzy_> hey guys
[17:57] <bjorkintosh> i use the shell quite often, and i had guake installed, but it fails to work in unity.
[17:57] <bjorkintosh> is there a replacement for that?
[17:57] <daftykins> ! hi| Jays
[17:57] <daftykins> whoops
[17:57] <daftykins> !hi| Jays
[17:57] <Jays> Hey
[17:57] <daftykins> oh man it's a fail kind of day
[17:57] <Pici> daftykins: psst, there is no !hi
[17:57] <daftykins> aww :(
[17:58] <daftykins> it's been so long i'm remembering other channels' bots
[17:58] <daftykins> not even a welcome?
[17:58] <swazzy_> i have a small problem. in my media dir i have a problem mounting one of my hdd?
[17:58] <Jays> Welcome daftykins
[17:58] <Pici> daftykins: You can say "hi" yourself :)
[17:58] <daftykins> Pici: don't be so patronising :P
[17:58] <Jays> daftykins: Reply hm
[17:59] <daftykins> anyway, if you have a question ask away in here Jays
[17:59] <Jays> Ok
[17:59] <daftykins> that be how it works!
[18:01] <swazzy_> it just says usb0 but it's not a usb it's an internal hdd
[18:01] <Jays> Hi
[18:01] <swazzy_> slave drive for storage
[18:02] <swazzy_> how do fix this problem?
[18:02] <djQuery> dang both rhythmbox and banshee keep crashing when trying to synch with my lg spirit
[18:02] <doc_tuna> ?DCC CHAT ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐
[18:02] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users.   I use two-finger scolling, whichi works fine
[18:04] <daftykins> madprops: -_-
[18:05] <daftykins> swazzy_: ...
[18:05] <swazzy_> yes
[18:06] <daftykins> swazzy_: are you familiar with the command line? to help fix your drive problem
[18:06] <tute> how long does it generally take for a question to be answered here?
[18:06] <swazzy_> some what
[18:06] <Sazpaimon_> agliodbs, and do you not run into the dual screen issue?
[18:06] <tgm4883> tute, depends on the question
[18:06] <daftykins> swazzy_: can you pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l" and "df -h" please
[18:06] <Sazpaimon_> or do you not use dual screens?
[18:07] <tute> tgm4883: about 10 minutes ago i asked a question about getting wine running on ubuntu
[18:07] <MonkeyDust> tute  10 minutes, that's 500 lines of text
[18:08] <tgm4883> MonkeyDust, it was actually 20 minutes ago
[18:08] <swazzy_> Disk /dev/sda: 80.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>6 bytes
[18:08] <swazzy_> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders, total 156301488 sectors
[18:08] <swazzy_> Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
[18:08] <swazzy_> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[18:08] <swazzy_> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[18:08] <FloodBot1> swazzy_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:08] <swazzy_> Disk identifier: 0x00099cd9
[18:08] <Jays> Lol
[18:08] <daftykins> go go gadget pastebin
[18:08] <tgm4883> tute, looks like repo's not synced maybe
[18:08] <mike21491> it's not the old-school lenovo
[18:08] <genii-around> Looks like a pretty old hd
[18:08] <tgm4883> tute, I'd try a 'apt-get -f install' and see what it tries to do
[18:08] <tute> ok
[18:09] <tute> tgm4883: didnt do anything
[18:11] <Ponch0> I have ubuntu gnome remix 13.04, is it normal that I don't have the privacy tab in settings?
[18:11] <Myrtti> !pastebin | swazzy_, Floodbots are bots, they can't help you.
[18:11] <tgm4883> Ponch0, I would think so
[18:11] <swazzy_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5623482/
[18:12] <Ponch0> thanks
[18:12] <daftykins> swazzy_: so can you tell which drive is which? looks like you have a Windows NTFS partition on all 3
[18:13] <tgm4883> Ponch0, since gnome remix isn't done by canonical, and the privacy stuff is for Unity lenses
[18:13] <daftykins> i see 1 x 80GB Windows, 1 x 200GB Windows, 1 x 160GB Windows and Linux
[18:13] <swazzy_> indeed
[18:13] <daftykins> swazzy_: which one do you want to be your storage then? :>
[18:13] <swazzy_> i have named my hdd media boxx, media boxxx
[18:15] <mike21491> serstovik
[18:15] <mike21491> jono
[18:15] <k1l> mike21491: no bot/scripts in here please
[18:15] <mike21491> no problem friend
[18:16] <swazzy_> but my hdd mounts but its says usb0
[18:17] <Jays> Bi
[18:18] <daftykins> swazzy_: hmm, is it one of those 3 then?
[18:18] <tute> does anybody in here have any experience with wine on ubuntu 12.04
[18:18] <swazzy_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5623504/
[18:18] <k1l> tute: sure people have experience with wine. just ask a specific question but be aware of that:
[18:19] <k1l> !wine | tute
[18:19] <swazzy_> both i have two of them media boxx and media boxxx
[18:19] <tute> k1l: i asked a couple times and got no response. my question is pretty general. i want to know why it's not installing on my machine
[18:19] <tute> k1l: i posted a log from trying to install 1.5 from terminal, one sec
[18:19] <swazzy_> one mounts properly but the other does not
[18:20] <Jays> Hu all
[18:20] <tute> k1l: http://pastebin.com/DvevPxN0
[18:20] <Jays> Quit clowning around
[18:20] <daftykins> swazzy_: so it's /dev/sda1. that's one messed up disk+partition setup you have there
[18:21] <adamk_> tute, Are you using any 3rd party repos?
[18:21] <tute> adamk_: nope, the only other repo i used besides default are what most tutorials told me to use, ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa
[18:22] <adamk_> So you are using a 3rd party repo :-)
[18:22] <tute> adamk_: and i only added that one after trying it without adding that repo and failing
[18:22] <tute> adamk_: didnt know that was 3rd party. i only used it because it wouldnt work without it (and its still not working)
[18:22] <k1l> tute: so this is a 3rd party repo. better ask that maintainer what is wrong with his packages
[18:22] <tute> k1l: see my response to adamk, it didnt work without that repo either, i got the same error
[18:23] <swazzy_> brb im gonna paste another so u can see what's really going on
[18:23] <adamk_> tute, Did you try 'apt-get -f install' before adding the wine ppa?
[18:23] <k1l> tute: show a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" in a pastebin
[18:24] <tute> adamk_: yes i did, and k1l ok
[18:24] <pierce> apt-get purge nvidia-*   fixed my GLX issues (yay)
[18:25] <mcnesium> my phpmyadmin problem i stated earlier seems to be a problem with the symlinks in ubuntu 13.04: http://superuser.com/questions/590208/phpmyadmin-symlinks-error-after-upbuntu-upgrade --- are there any other reports that there are problems with symlinks ?
[18:25] <swazzy_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5623524/
[18:25] <tute> k1l: oh i didnt do an upgrade earlier, only an update.too much text for my scrollback buffer, let me finish this update first then ill do it again and paste
[18:26] <swazzy_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5623526/
[18:27] <swazzy_> do you see what i was talking about?
[18:27] <niranjan> Trying to install 13.04 on virtual box, installer is stuck at retrieving 40/102 files
[18:28] <niranjan> This is second try, first try also got stuck at same location
[18:28] <swazzy_> /dev/sdb1
[18:28] <k1l> mike21491: did you turn off that bot?
[18:29] <swazzy_> instead of having /media/Media boxxx it has /media/usb0
[18:29] <daftykins> niranjan: is your ISO corrupt?
[18:30] <daftykins> swazzy_: i don't see any mention of USB at all
[18:30] <niranjan> daftykins: It's possible, but for second try, downloaded it again from ubuntu website. Will give it another try
[18:30] <swazzy_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5623526/
[18:31] <daftykins> niranjan: hash the file against the hashes online to double check
[18:31] <niranjan> daftykins:Thanks, will confirm again
[18:32] <swazzy_> dafty so u see it now?
[18:32] <daftykins> swazzy_: that's a different partition on a different drive
[18:33] <daftykins> swazzy_: maybe you used to use it as an external and so it's mounting it to /media/usb0 ?
[18:34] <swazzy_> thats the problem it's suppose to say media boxxx
[18:35] <daftykins> swazzy_: the other partition already does
[18:35] <daftykins> /dev/sda1                                               76710908  13950928  62759980  19% /media/Media Boxx
[18:35] <daftykins> /dev/sdb1                                              199141708 165559924  33581784  84% /media/usb0
[18:35] <daftykins> they're two different partitions on two different drives :D
[18:35] <bugtraq> omg
[18:36] <daftykins> omg
[18:36] <bugtraq> sorry estoy probando el bugtraq
[18:37] <swazzy_> right but i named the other one media boxxx i just added another x to it
[18:37] <swazzy_> so why is it saying /media/usb0 instead of media boxxx?
[18:38] <daftykins> swazzy_: *shrug* where are you typing these names?
[18:38] <swazzy_> lol
[18:39] <daftykins> anyways it's food o'clock here in BST land
[18:39] <swazzy_> so it won't be difficult for me to know which one is which
[18:39] <swazzy_> so i named my hdd
[18:40] <swazzy_> i don't think naming my hdd is the problem
[18:42] <mike21491> sendaljepit
[18:42] <swazzy_> but when i go to my media dir and throw the usb0 dir to the trash dir that's when it doesn't mount
[18:44] <vlad_starkov> Question: What is the best pretty safest method to upgrade LTS distr? sudo apt-get upgrade OR sudo aptitude upgrade ?
[18:45] <kmicu> Any PPA with Perl 5.16 for raring?
[18:45] <mojtaba> Hi, I am using ubuntu 12.10, and can not connect to Internet with cable. Does anybody know what should I do?
[18:46] <emx> is there a cache-directory where ubuntu stores temporary files in that i can delete to gain some space on th harddrive?
[18:46] <decci> Any idea how to Install a Touchscreen driver in my Ubuntu 12.04
[18:48] <gdoteof> so I put 13.04 on my buddy's laptop, an upgrade not a fresh install.  he is getting what appears to be totally random crashes/shutdowns..
[18:48] <yeats> emx: this thread has some tips: http://askubuntu.com/questions/5980/how-do-i-free-up-disk-space
[18:48] <gdoteof> best i can do is : http://i.imgur.com/QR4vIus.jpg
[18:48] <gdoteof> is anyone experiencing anything similar or have any idea what's going on
[18:48] <gdoteof> its a dell inspiron
[18:52] <mojtaba> Hi, I am using ubuntu 12.10, and can not connect to Internet with cable. Does anybody know what should I do?
[18:52] <mojtaba> Should I re-install a driver or something?
[18:53] <jdale> hi all
[18:53] <jdale> mojtaba: no
[18:53] <jdale> ethernet drivers are pre included
[18:53] <mojtaba> Hi, I am using ubuntu 12.10, and can not connect to Internet with cable. Does anybody know what should I do?
[18:53] <BluesKaj> mojtaba, patebin , ifconfig
[18:54] <mojtaba> BluesKaj: I am currently connected to the internet with wireless.
[18:54] <BluesKaj> mojtaba, and don't keep repeating your question
[18:54] <mojtaba> BluesKaj: ok
[18:54] <jdale> MoTec:  check your cable
[18:55] <mojtaba> jdale: I have test it before.
[18:55] <jdale> ..
[18:55] <jdale> try it again
[18:55] <sdglsdgkjgda> My touchpad left click stops working after a while on my laptop, and is only fixed by a reboot. What could be going on?
[18:56] <BluesKaj> jdale, this is 2nd or 3rd time he's been here with this problem
[18:56] <emx> yeats, thanks
[18:57] <emx> apt-get remove --purge linux-image-3.5.* <-- i gained 1.4 GiB space (!)
[18:57] <groober> hello. the gist: i need to get ubuntu on my flash drive. currently on os x. only CLI installation
[18:57] <groober> guide at: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[18:57] <emx> it should be hardcoded in the package manager that unused kernels are removed (maybe keeping the last one for fallback)
[18:58] <groober> i'm stuck at executing dd. error "/bin/dd: /bin/dd: cannot execute binary file"
[19:03] <Neytiri> hi i have a new 2 day old install of 12.04 and it booted 2 times now i cant get the system to boot, something about unsabel to mount root FS, even safemode cant boot the system
[19:03] <mike21491> it just freezes when i have no problems on my windows partition
[19:03] <jdale> hm Neytiri  did you sledt Hindi os that your main language ?
[19:03] <jdale> select
[19:05] <Neytiri> 12.04 is my main and ONLY os installed onthis sytem
[19:05] <groober> hope repeating doesn't hurt. the gist: i need to get ubuntu on my flash drive. currently on os x. only CLI installation
[19:05] <groober> guide at: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[19:05] <groober> i'm stuck at executing dd. error "/bin/dd: /bin/dd: cannot execute binary file"
[19:09] <lemin> My stuff
[19:10] <Neytiri> what can i do to get my system to boot again?
[19:11] <lemin> Neytiri: power it down
[19:11] <BluesKaj> Neytiri, can you describe what's happening or not happening
[19:12] <codepython777> any upstart users here who can give me some help on using it.
[19:12] <Neytiri> i  rebooted my system, after a update, and now it cant mount the root fs, i tried in safemode and still no luck
[19:12] <lemin> Neytiri: just restart
[19:13] <Neytiri> and lemin youe comments in my private message are not helpful,  i tried restarting several times before comming here after boting up via live cd
[19:13] <DJones> !behelpful | lemin
[19:14] <BluesKaj> Neytiri, have you tried nomodeset ?
[19:14] <Neytiri> no, how would i try that?
[19:14] <BluesKaj> !nomodeset | Neytiri
[19:16] <Neytiri> ah, but would that keep it from mounting the foor fs, after a kernl update
[19:18] <Neytiri> well its worth a shot i'll be back in a min after testing it
[19:20] <redj_> hey there. having a problem on mbp running 12.10 where when I try to ping it does the dns lookup fine but then i get no packets back
[19:21] <ovando> Hola a todos los linuxeros
[19:21] <bekks> redj_: How do you check wether you actually get packets back?
[19:21] <redj_> 100% packet loss after i ended the ping
[19:21] <Diesel3000> Is there a command that I can use through the shell of a live boot cd to install ubuntu?
[19:22] <Dr_willis> Diesel3000,  you want a text based installer you mean?
[19:22] <BluesKaj> Diesel3000, why ?
[19:22] <redj_> any ideas why the dns would be okay but ping would fail?
[19:22] <bekks> redj_: Some firewall blocking it.
[19:22] <Dr_willis> Ping requests can be filtered out by the other machines firewallsettings
[19:22] <meet> can pidgin me made to integrate with gnome 3 as good as empathy?
[19:23] <Quest>  if the /home/user123 is encrypted (ubuntu) and shadows file is overwritten , the theif boots with the new password of user123 . will he access the /home/user123?
[19:23] <redj_> should i try traceroute to see where I'm caught?
[19:23] <mike21491> boo can you open up a chat window between us agan?
[19:23] <Diesel3000> Because im trying to load ubuntu 32 server to a old box I have though it wont copy from the live USB
[19:23] <Diesel3000> The computer that im using doesnt have a CD Drive for the install and fails using the USB
[19:24] <Dr_willis> Diesel3000,  the pc boots from the Server Install USB, but fails to install? but it does boot from a Desktop Install USB?
[19:25] <redj_> alright i'm going to do a traceroute and see where i get lost
[19:26] <Diesel3000> Dr_willis: I had loaded the USB using UNetbootin with the latest version of 32bit server the hard drive in the computer im trying to load to is brandnew after the check of the keyboard and during the fist start of the install process before it has you setup the network connections it fails. So im kinda in a rock and a hard place because I dont have a CD drive I can swap over to the old crashbox
[19:26] <Diesel3000> though I need the install of server
[19:26] <glassresistor> ok having a issue with 12.04 went in and installed cinnamon via ppa:gwendal-lebihan-dev/cinnamon-stable then went back to unity and its got no taskbar
[19:26] <Dr_willis> Diesel3000,  so you used Unetbootin to do a server install TO the first partition of the hard drive?
[19:27] <Diesel3000> I didnt even get that far, it said there was an issue with pulling the data from the USB and wouldnt allow me to move forward from there there
[19:28] <Dr_willis> So the USB was made incorectly, or the iso file used was 'bad'. Thats the core of the problem  Diesel3000 ?
[19:29] <Dr_willis> what was the exact error the  usb said when you booted it? theres some old issues with server installs from USB where it fails to see the ISO file on the usb
[19:29] <Diesel3000> I might assume. It will allow configuring of the network with DHCP as im trying again now.. standby
[19:30] <Neytiri> well that didnt work but i have  the actual error  Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)        comm: swapper/0 Not tainted 3.5.0-27-generic
[19:31] <Neytiri> any idea what i can do to fix this?
[19:32] <slimer_> my internet down
[19:32] <Diesel3000> Dr_willis: looks like everything is on its way right now, wierd because on the first 3 installs I had nothing but a problem so we will see
[19:32] <wittybear> Just been hitting my head against a wall to do with permissions. Turns out that you need to log out/in again to change the groups you are a member of - there is no indication of this being necessary in the GUI tools or the command line tools. Shouldn't this get added?
[19:33] <groober> i need to get ubuntu on my flash drive. currently on os x.  guide at ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx stuck at step 8
[19:33] <groober> error: "dd: /dev/disk1: Permission denied"
[19:33] <Dr_willis> wittybear,  seen this mentioned/asked befor..    not with gui tools however. You are corredt. when you change a users groups you MUST log out/back in for them to get changed
[19:33] <Neytiri> groober:  seems like you dont have permission to do that, try the comand with sudo
[19:34] <groober> i'm doing that with su
[19:34] <ggherdov> "would you like to install youtube for extra features and quicker access?" seriously, what's wrong with firefox on ubuntu? it's kind of annoying
[19:34] <Dr_willis> ggherdov,  its just asking to enable the youtube webapp icon.
[19:34] <groober> i'm not in sudoers, can't change right now
[19:34] <groober> but i have admin password, so su
[19:34] <Dr_willis> ggherdov,  webapps is a 'new' feature in 12.04+ i belive.   neat idea.. but dosent work that well
[19:35] <bekks> groober: by default, there is root/admin password in Ubuntu.
[19:35] <codepython777> is upstart installed by default on ubuntu?
[19:35] <wittybear> thanks Dr_willis... I might see if there is an open issue regarding this.... until you've run into the problem then its not obvious
[19:35] <Dr_willis> codepython777,  yes.
[19:35] <ggherdov> Dr_willis: ok
[19:35] <Jordan_U> groober: What is the exact command you're running?
[19:35] <bekks> groober: And even having the password for an account in sudoers, you would have to use sudo instead of su
[19:35] <Neytiri> I am getting this error on boot Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)        comm: swapper/0 Not tainted 3.5.0-27-generic
[19:36] <groober> su admin dd if=/Users/myname/Desktop/Desktop.img of=/dev/disk1 bs=1m
[19:36] <bd9021> hey im new to linux and ubuntu anyone willing to help
[19:36] <Dr_willis> bd9021,  state the problem and see who can help
[19:36] <bd9021> i cant get java to work without manually selecting it
[19:37] <groober> the error doing it is "/bin/dd: /bin/dd: cannot execute binary file"
[19:37] <Dr_willis> followed the guide at the !java factoid bd9021 ?
[19:37] <wittybear> bd9021.. what do you mean by "work"?
[19:37] <bd9021> how would i fix
[19:37] <Dr_willis> !java | bd9021
[19:37] <glassresistor> i install cinnamon and also played around with gnome classic on 12.04, i had to do unity --reset to get my panel back and now super only works if a window is open but not if cursor is over desktop
[19:38] <glassresistor> i think its still using a diferent application for the desktop
[19:38] <Jordan_U> groober: That's not how you use su. If you want to run a single command as root with su you would run something like this: su -c "dd if=/Users/myname/Desktop/Desktop.img of=/dev/disk1 bs=1m" (note I have *not* checked to be sure that your dd command is correct, and dd can be dangerous).
[19:38] <bd9021> alright has anyone heard of bcache
[19:38] <Dr_willis> glassresistor,  try a 'compiz --replace'  ?
[19:38] <bekks> bd9021: Some people did.
[19:39] <bd9021> and by work i mean it have to select it manually to play minecraft it wont open auto
[19:39] <BluesKaj> oops , bouncer went down
[19:39] <Dr_willis> bd9021,  so your while issue is  getting Minecraft working and thats all?
[19:39] <Quest>  if the /home/user123 is encrypted (ubuntu) and shadows file is overwritten , the theif boots with the new password of user123 . will he access the /home/user123?
[19:39] <glassresistor> Dr_willis: just killed everything, in ttyl now
[19:39] <Jordan_U> Quest: No.
[19:39] <bd9021> well thats just my example there are a few java chat sites ii cant get to work
[19:40] <glassresistor> is the desktop still drawn by nautilus?
[19:40] <Quest> jordan,  why not
[19:40] <BluesKaj> codepython777, did you see the upstart factoid , my connrection dropped for a few
[19:40] <bd9021> i assume its cause java wont run auto
[19:40] <Dr_willis> bd9021,  well for minecraft - start with this guide perhaps. the others may work then.   http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/easily-install-minecraft-in-ubuntu-via.html
[19:40] <bekks> Quest: Because he didnt change the password that was used to encrypt the hashes used for encryption.
[19:40] <bd9021> i guess i mean as a default
[19:41] <Dr_willis> glassresistor,  Nautilys handles the icons on the desktop. but it does not handle the 'superkey'  binding. thats a feature of the window manager. compiz normally.
[19:41] <Quest> bekks,  Jordan_U   rephrase:  if the /home/user123 is encrypted (ubuntu) and shadows file is overwritten , the theif boots with root account (with the new password) and changes password of user123 . will he access the /home/user123?
[19:42] <bekks> Quest: Again: No.
[19:42] <Jordan_U> Quest: Because the way that home directory encryption works is that there is a private key which is used to encrypt all of the files, and there is also a "wrapped" password encrypted version of that key stored. When you login, a PAM module passes your password to a process which uses it to decrypt that wrapped private key, and then uses the private key to decrypt the files. If you give a different password than the one the key is ...
[19:42] <Jordan_U> ... encrypte with then the private key will fail to decrypt, and thus you also won't be able to decrypt any files.
[19:43] <dryc-x> Hi
[19:43] <Jordan_U> Quest: The only way to successfully change the password of a user with an encrypted home directory is by entering their old password (or by knowing the private key used to encrypt their files, which you can generally only get by having the password).
[19:44] <wittybear> bd9021... is the file you have downloaded a jar file?
[19:44] <Quest> jordan,  so ignoreing the /etc/shadows file.        even in normal operations, if the root logs in and changes the password of user123  or su user123 and enters /home/user123 , he wont have acces to the files?  not even root?
[19:44] <wittybear> if so there is an article here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/192914/how-run-a-jar-file-with-a-double-click
[19:45] <bekks> Quest: Correct.
[19:45] <Quest> Jordan_U,  how to get the private key used to encrypt their files
[19:45] <bekks> Quest: You have to know the users password.
[19:45] <bd9021> i know i doawnloaded it but its not showing in my downlaods folder
[19:46] <Quest> bekks,  so root cannot do ALL
[19:46] <nanvou> hello, I have a problem with upstart on Ubuntu 12.04 . Even though I submitted a "respaw" stanza, if the program terminate somehow, upstart won't reload it...
[19:46] <bekks> Quest: Correct.
[19:46] <Quest> bekks,  good for users, bad for root
[19:46] <Quest> ok
[19:46] <Quest> Jordan_U,  how to get the private key used to encrypt their files -- bekks
[19:46] <bekks> Quest: You have to know the users password.
[19:46] <Quest> bekks,  thats the only way?
[19:46] <bekks> Quest: Correct.
[19:47] <wittybear> night all!
[19:47] <groober> Jordan_U so it should be: su admin "dd if=/Users/myname/Desktop/Desktop.img of=/dev/rdisk1 bs=1m"
[19:47] <jrib> Quest: so are you going to come here and ask this same question every month or what?
[19:47] <Quest> bekks,  Jordan_U  i assume that when the user123 will change his password himself. it will also change the private key and encrypted /homes keys.
[19:47] <Quest> jrib,  did i asked this before?
[19:47] <Jordan_U> Quest: By using ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase (which requires the passphrase the key was wrapped with).
[19:47] <bekks> Quest: That depends on how the user changes his password - but yes, in general, the user willl change all passwords.
[19:48] <brandon-dacrib> I am having some trouble with pulseaudio after upgrading to 13.04 and was wondering if I could get some help
[19:48] <Quest> jrib,  must be a coleege then, we are working on security in office
[19:48] <jrib> Quest: you would know that
[19:48] <Guest31542> hello
[19:48] <Guest31542> I have one problem about install ubuntu 13.04. Can anyone help me?
[19:49] <groober> Guest31542: just ask
[19:49] <Jordan_U> Quest: If a user changes their password it will not change the private key, it will only rewrap the wrapped key file using a different password.
[19:49] <dryc-x> Guest31542, what is your problem>
[19:49] <Jordan_U> Quest: That way you don't need to decrypt and re-encrypt all your files every time you change your passphrase.
[19:50] <Quest> Jordan_U,  so at anytime the user can decrypt the /home by the old password also?
[19:50] <jrib> Quest: you may be interested in the log for this channel for april 7 2013 (just search for "Quest").  Might be helpful.  Feel free to discuss it here too; just stuck me as strange
[19:50] <bekks> Quest: No.
[19:50] <Jordan_U> Quest: No, the old wrapped passphrase is deleted when a user changes their password.
[19:50] <bekks> Quest: There is just one password thats used for wrapping the private key.
[19:50] <Quest> jrib,  Hm. i wont be, my colleege has his own research and that would be private for me
[19:51] <Quest> Jordan_U,  oh. nice
[19:51] <Quest> jordan,  bekks  jrib  one last question. does windows behave the same way? you change a file (overwrite etc/shadows) by a live cd or harddisk access and you enter the new password and login?
[19:52] <groober> running su imac "dd if=/Users/Sergio/Desktop/Desktop.img of=/dev/rdisk1 bs=1m"
[19:52] <bekks> Quest: Personally, I dont care how Windows does things.
[19:52] <groober> gives: No such file or directory
[19:52] <Neytiri> can someone please help me fix my system, I am getting this error on boot Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)        comm: swapper/0 Not tainted 3.5.0-27-generic
[19:52] <jrib> Quest: ##windows can help you with that
[19:52] <groober> i'm sure the file exist
[19:52] <bekks> Quest: And Windows doesnt have a etc/shadow.
[19:52] <Quest> thanks!
[19:52] <Quest> bekks,  well does it has a smilar way?
[19:53] <bekks> Quest: 0501 215207 < bekks> Quest: Personally, I dont care how Windows does things. :)
[19:53] <Guest31542> Ok. I have 2 phisycal SATA drives. /dev/sda is SATA2 and /dev/sdb is SATA3. I have Win8 installed on /dev/sdb. So I wish install ubuntu on /dev/sda. BUT! Installer offer me install ubuntu together with windows on /dev/sdb. However installer also want install GRUB on /dev/sda!
[19:53] <Rallias> So I've got a small problem... I just did an apt-get upgrade on my server, and now it's detecting a bunch of OS's I don't remember installing... how do I fix that?
[19:54] <Guest31542> I just can't change another hdd
[19:54] <Jordan_U> groober: No, it should be exactly the command I gave you.
[19:54] <nanvou> anyone on upstart ?
[19:54] <Rallias> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5623770/
[19:54] <bekks> !anyone | nanvou
[19:54] <Quest> bekks, ok
[19:54] <jrib> nanvou: i imagine most people are.  You should just ask your next question
[19:54] <nanvou> hello, I have a problem with upstart on Ubuntu 12.04 . Even though I submitted a "respaw" stanza, if the program terminate somehow, upstart won't reload it...
[19:55] <Guest31542> groober: so that is
[19:55] <nanvou> the program doesn't exit with "0" status
[19:55] <Big_Stupid> Hi, can anyone tell me how to check my system update history using the default software updater in ubuntu?
[19:55] <Rallias> OH derp... those are my LXC vm's.
[19:55] <nanvou> so it SHOULD be restarted, but it doesn't
[19:56] <groober> Jordan_U: su -cc "..." gives "su: illegal option -- c"
[19:56] <groober> sorry, su -c
[19:56] <jrib> nanvou: I don't know but I suggest pastebinning your actual script to see if someone can help
[19:56] <savio> Big_Stupid check dpkg.log
[19:56] <cloneG> just  one question: if I install nvidia-current-updates do I need also nvidia-common? ubuntu 12.04, nvidia Geforce 8800 Gt
[19:57] <Guest31542> any idea why installer won't give me to change install drive?
[19:58] <Big_Stupid> thanks savio!
[19:58] <Jordan_U> groober: Please run the exact command I gave, then copy and paste the full command and its output to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com , and post the link to it here.
[19:58] <savio> Big_Stupid np
[19:58] <wilee-nilee> Guest31542, You in the something other option?
[19:58] <nanvou> here's the script http://paste.ubuntu.com/5623777/
[19:59] <Guest31542> wilee-nilee: what option you mean to use?
[19:59] <jrib> nanvou: but there's no "respawn" there?
[19:59] <wilee-nilee> Guest31542, There is a install gui at the bottom is something other it is the manual install.
[19:59] <nanvou> jrib, yes so that it runs no matter what
[20:00] <Neytiri> can someone help me fix the kernal panic i am getting after i updated and rebooted
[20:00] <jrib> nanvou: I'm confused.  Wasn't your complaint that "respawn" was not having an effect?
[20:00] <wilee-nilee> Guest31542, 3rd or 4ty choice in the install guis.
[20:00] <wilee-nilee> 4th
[20:00] <nanvou> jrib, >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/upstart-devel/2011-January/001383.html (look for respawn)
[20:00] <nanvou> I tried this approach because respawn had no effect in the first place
[20:01] <Dr_willis> Guest31542,  you are booting from a live cd. and doing a full install to a hard drive?
[20:01] <jrib> nanvou: that's a really old document.  Have you checked current documentation?
[20:01] <Guest31542> wilee-nilee: you mean choices frome livecd grub menu or what? In graphical installer I have no options to change hdd to install
[20:01] <nanvou> jrib, yes http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/ . I went there
[20:01] <wilee-nilee> Guest31542, Honestly with a uefi install you should be using the ubuntu forums.
[20:02] <groober> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5623791/
[20:02] <Guest31542> wilee-nilee: ok, it seems to be best way for right now
[20:03] <wilee-nilee> Guest31542, Do you have the W8 backed up to a external or backed up in case it is bricked?
[20:03] <Guest31542> wilee-nilee: thanks for you trying
[20:03] <genii-around> groober: My guess would be that you need a username at the end, or a -
[20:03] <jrib> nanvou: there's #upstart, you may have better luck there
[20:04] <Big_Stupid> can anyone help with an issue with anki?  I keep getting a 404/cant connect error when I use the program.
[20:04] <nanvou> jrib, thanks
[20:04] <nantou> i cannot get slype or ekiga to work correctly. I use ALSA and the sound sounds really bad, like with lots of static electricity
[20:04] <nantou> things is, the embedded microphone works
[20:04] <nantou> arecord -D plughw:0,0 -c 2 -r 16000 -f S16_LE - | aplay -D plughw:0,0 -c 2 -r 16000 -f S16_LE - works
[20:05] <nantou> however, if "c 2" is changed to "c 1", no output
[20:05] <genii-around> groober: Or a sudo at the front
[20:05] <Jordan_U> groober: Looks like OSX's syntax is slightly different than GNU su's, try this: su root -c "dd if=/Users/myname/Desktop/Desktop.img of=/dev/disk1 bs=1m"
[20:05] <cloneG> is there something similar to this with nvidia? http://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/ubuntu-amd-catalyst-install
[20:05] <nantou> i have been trying to use alsamixer to get decent sound, but nothing
[20:05] <nantou> plus, I cannot listen to music with, say, gmusicbrowser and talk to the embedde mic
[20:06] <Dr_willis> !nvidia
[20:06] <cloneG> okay thanks
[20:06] <ruser> hi, i used the gui package manager to install binary  blob drivers from ati (yes, i know bad idea) and screwed up my X install.  can't fing the package name on command line to remove the binary blob.  Any ideas what's the name?
[20:07] <Dr_willis> cloneG,  most people just use the addational-drivers tool (or tab) to install the needed drivers
[20:07] <cloneG> I dont know what to do more! I am going nuts
[20:07] <Guest31542> wilee-nilee: I have backup but I won't touch /dev/sdb.
[20:08] <Dr_willis> cloneG,  whats your  video card? is it one of those dual video optimius setups?
[20:08] <wilee-nilee> Guest31542, Cool just checking you want to be able to recover under any circumstances. ;)
[20:08] <cloneG> I ve been trying to make my graphic card work for three days
[20:08] <cloneG> the point is it s been working like a charm for four months...
[20:08] <cloneG> and suddenly the frame rate slowered...
[20:08] <Guest31542> wilee-nilee: I just can't understand why installer offer install GRUB on /dev/sda BUT won't install all system there
[20:09] <cloneG> I lost my patience and reboot..
[20:09] <cloneG> bad idea
[20:09] <cloneG> it was the end
[20:09] <cloneG> I think it is related to kernel upgrade but i cant really tell
[20:10] <wilee-nilee> Guest31542, UEFI is funky the manufacturers have their own tweaked versions. The only place where I have seen any actual help within this context is from a mod on the ubuntu forums that is focused on uefi.
[20:10] <Dr_willis> you can select older kernels from the Grub Boot Menu.
[20:10] <Guest31542> wilee-nilee: I just can't see /dev/sda on the installer menu! But I can format or create any partions on one.
[20:10] <BluesKaj> nantou, is pulseaudio installed ?
[20:10] <groober> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5623811/
[20:10] <nantou> BluesKaj, yes
[20:11] <wilee-nilee> Guest31542, There is one user on here now who is closer than most, but They have to repond in their own time if they want to.
[20:11] <cloneG> startx will throw a 'could not open the device file /dev/nvidia0(input/output error)
[20:11] <Brutusss> does anyone know how to get rid of the more suggestions in the applications menu in 13.04?
[20:11] <BluesKaj> nantou, pavucontrol ?
[20:11] <Dr_willis> !adlens
[20:11] <Jordan_U> groober: I give specific commands for a reason, if you think they need to be changed ask me about it, but don't just change it yourself. Please run exactly the command I gave you.
[20:11] <nantou> BluesKaj, yes
[20:11] <Guest31542> wilee-nilee: very nice)
[20:11] <k1l> cloneG: dont use startx. start the lightdm
[20:11] <Brutusss> ubottu: I already did that
[20:11] <Brutusss> oh right
[20:11] <bekks> groober: Line 9 following. It works very well and clearly tells you "admin" has no access to /dev/disk1
[20:12] <Dr_willis> Brutusss,  askubuntu.com most likely has several  hits on tweaking the dash to remove the lens you dont want
[20:12] <cloneG> dr.willis what the addational-drivers is? a package?
[20:12] <Brutusss> Dr_willis: I wan't the lens. i really do. just not the ads
[20:13] <Guest31542> wilee-nilee: I will try to plug out drive with windows and then install ubuntu
[20:13] <Brutusss> i found it for the other lenses, already put my privacy settings up
[20:13] <Dr_willis> Brutusss,  thats handled by the shopping-lens package i belive.
[20:13] <cloneG> k1l: that will get stuck at checking battery state...............[ok]
[20:13] <Kroach> how can I convert a video into an image sequence? OpenShot has this option but it only ouptuts 320x240  images. Is there any way of getting higher resolution with ffmpeg or something else?
[20:13] <groober> Jordan_U: well, try #2 is that
[20:13] <groober> dd: /dev/disk1: Permission denied
[20:13] <Jordan_U> groober: No, it's not.
[20:13] <nixnine> is there a keylogger that works in studio?
[20:13] <wilee-nilee> Guest31542, I can't really help with any confidence other than to direct you to the right place. ;)
[20:14] <k1l> cloneG: startx doesnt work in ubuntu. start lightdm and see the logs for errors
[20:14] <Brutusss> Dr_willis: that's what I thought. I removed it from my computer but it's still showing up, but only with applications. i was able to remove them from the other menu options
[20:14] <Dr_willis> Kroach,   i belive ffmpeg, and mencoder can both convert a video file in to  single image files one image per frame.
[20:14] <Guest31542> wilee-nilee: I think it can be worked. brb)
[20:14]  * wilee-nilee know we all have pipe dreams, lol
[20:16] <cloneG> k1l:  /var/log/Xorrg.0.log ---> [E][E] failed to initialize the nvidia gpu at pci 1:0:0 please check your system's kernel log
[20:16] <Jordan_U> groober: If you're having trouble retyping the command correctly you can always copy and paste (in fact I would highly recommend doing so, especially when a command you retyped fails).
[20:16] <k1l> cloneG: first make sure you have the kernel headers installed. then install nvidia-current
[20:16] <Brutusss> Dr_willis: that site is great :)
[20:16] <kuranevi> hi
[20:16] <Brutusss> gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.ApplicationsLens display-available-apps false
[20:16] <Brutusss> that worked :)
[20:16] <cloneG> k1l: Kern.log ---> NVRM: RmInitAdapter failed! NVRM: rm_init_adapter(0) fail
[20:17] <Brutusss> thank you for the help Dr_willis
[20:17] <kuranevi> how can i use .dwg files on LibreCAD?
[20:17] <cloneG> kernel-headers-generic yes sir!
[20:17] <cloneG> Installed!
[20:17] <ruser> hi, i used the gui package manager to install binary  blob drivers from ati (yes, i know bad idea) and screwed up my X install.  can't fing the package name on command line to remove the binary blob.  Any ideas what's the pkg name?  can someone quickly look it up for me?  would be much apprecaited.
[20:17] <cloneG> k1l: kernel-headers-generic already installed
[20:18] <k1l> cloneG: make sure its the right one for your kernel installed
[20:18] <cloneG> k1l: how do I know?
[20:18] <leptone> can anyone recommend a PDF editor that will work with 12.04?
[20:19] <balachmar> on my laptop I need to use the nvidia drivers, but even though I have them installed, ubuntu 13.04 still loads the nouveau driver. How can I make sure it loads the nvidia driver?
[20:19] <k1l> cloneG:  dpkg -l |grep linux-headers
[20:19] <Dr_willis> kuranevi,  google hit for 'librecad dwg' finds --> http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entry/librecad-gets-native-dwg-importer
[20:19] <oz6oh> I am looking for people  there know something about strobe in parrallelport programming   strobe shall go on or off
[20:20] <k1l> cloneG: make sure its matches with your kernel (uname -a)
[20:20] <savio> leptone editor means an highlighter
[20:20] <cloneG> k1l: 3.5.0 yes sir! same version the kernel is
[20:21] <k1l> cloneG: ok. then see the kernel log as mentioned in the error msg you just posted
[20:21] <leptone> savio, ??
[20:21] <cloneG> I also posted what it is in
[20:21] <cloneG> NVRM: RmInitAdapter failed!
[20:22] <cloneG> k1l: NVRM: RmInitAdapter failed!
[20:22] <cloneG> k1l: not enough clues for me
[20:22] <genii-around> balachmar: First, to make sure you have nvidia properly installed, these packages should be installed: linux-image-generic linux-headers-generic linux-source build-essential and dkms    ... then, to make sure nouveau does not load at boot: in /etc/default/grub the line: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="nomodeset"    and then: sudo update-grub       then install nvidia-current
[20:23] <k1l> cloneG: which ubuntu? which video card? which driver? (driver from ubuntu or where from?)
[20:23] <savio> leptone u need text highlighter in pdf like adobe x
[20:23] <genii-around> balachmar: Additionally, in /etc/X11/xorg.conf   you need it to specify there
[20:23] <cloneG> k1l: ubuntu 12.04 64 bit nvidia geforce 8800 Gt
[20:23] <balachmar> genii-around: ok so I need to add the nomodeset kernel option
[20:23] <cloneG> k1l: driver from swat repo
[20:24] <oz6oh> I have teamviewer here if some can help me
[20:24] <cloneG> k1l; nvidia-current-updates
[20:24] <k1l> cloneG: then please ask the swat guys whats wrong with their drivers
[20:24] <genii-around> balachmar: If you do: lsmod      ...right now, does it show both nvidia and nouveau ?
[20:24] <cloneG> k1l:http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates/ubuntu
[20:24] <k1l> cloneG: the nvidia in 12.04 didnt have problems with the 8800 and 8600
[20:24] <lukecarrier> Hi, I have a question regarding graphics drivers. I own a ThinkPad Edge E530, which mostly runs great, except for the fact that I can only boot into an Xfce/Gnome Classic session (12.10 and 13.04 both exhibit this behaviour). The system has dual graphics, which I suspect is the issue... I pasted my lshw output if anyone can spare any advice? Thanks! http://paste.ubuntu.com/5623851/
[20:25] <balachmar> genii-around: nope, lsmod only shows nouveau
[20:25] <cloneG> k1l: I know ! I told you I ve been using the system wonderfully 3d since a couple of weeks
[20:26] <cloneG> k1l: reinstall ubuntu?
[20:26] <genii-around> balachmar: I would do the other steps then to ensure the nvidia driver is being built properly. I had this issue early on with 13.04
[20:26] <groober> back here, i was disconnected
[20:26] <ruser> hi, i used the gui package manager to install binary  blob drivers from ati (yes, i know bad idea) and screwed up my X install.  can't fing the package name on command line to remove the binary blob.  Any ideas what's the pkg name?  can someone quickly look it up for me?  would be much apprecaited.
[20:26] <cloneG> k1l: i am starting to consider that chance
[20:26] <Ben64> cloneG: whats the issue?
[20:26] <groober> at 22:16
[20:26] <balachmar> genii-around: ok, I was missing the kernel source at least
[20:27] <k1l> cloneG: if you use a 3rd party PPA and that breaks your ubuntu its not ubuntus fault.
[20:27] <genii-around> balachmar: Also here is an xorg.conf file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5623857/
[20:27] <cloneG> k1l: true
[20:27] <cloneG> k1l: what would you do?
[20:27] <k1l> cloneG: you could use ppa-purge to remove that and see if its working with the original ubuntu drivers
[20:27] <groober> Jordan_U: if you answered me, please repeat
[20:28] <cloneG> k1l: I ll follow your advice
[20:28] <cloneG> k1l: have a nice day
[20:28] <Riley-> okay guys this is seriously driving me insane for some reason theres a solid line at the top of flash videos and i can not for the life of me figure out how to fix it because it does it randamly sometimes itll show up and sometimes not
[20:28] <Jordan_U> groober: You did not run the command I gave you. If you're having trouble retyping the command correctly you can always copy and paste (in fact I would highly recommend doing so, especially when a command you retyped fails).
[20:28] <k1l> cloneG: i hope that will solve the issue.
[20:29] <cloneG> k1l: what about forcing /blocking packages in synaptic? is it a good practice?
[20:29] <Riley-> does anyone know what im talking about i asked the other day and nobody had any ideas and theres nothing on the forums or launchpad
[20:29] <k1l> cloneG: if you know what you do
[20:29] <oz6oh> some here know  how to use Strobe in port programming   i shall have strobe high og low
[20:30] <plusJon> question: Can my computer run Ubuntu? Here are the specs: http://reviews.cnet.com/motherboards/asus-a7v8x-mx-motherboard/4507-3049_7-31317867.html
[20:30] <cloneG> k1l: preventing this to happen?
[20:30] <groober> Jordan_U: you mean   su admin -c "dd if=/Users/Sergio/Desktop/Desktop.img of=/dev/disk1 bs=1m"
[20:30] <cloneG> k1l: oh yes! I know what I am doing lol
[20:30] <groober> that's what i did
[20:31] <b4dave__> hello Ubuntu. I am new and am using the new gnome 13.04 and thought I would say hello and introduce myself.
[20:31] <Riley-> Anyone? this is seriously driving me crazy
[20:31] <Jordan_U> groober: And that's not the command I gave you.
[20:31] <Jordan_U> groober: Would you like me to repeat it?
[20:31] <groober> yes, please
[20:31] <Jordan_U> groober: su root -c "dd if=/Users/myname/Desktop/Desktop.img of=/dev/disk1 bs=1m"
[20:32] <oz6oh> some here know  how to use Strobe in port programming   i shall have strobe high og low  ole in denmark
[20:32] <Dr_willis> Riley-,  checked askubuntu.com ? i cant say ive heard of anyone else with a solid line at the top of flash videos.
[20:32] <Riley-> ive looked everywere
[20:32] <Riley-> im seriously about to give up
[20:32] <Riley-> im almost positive it has to do with notifyosd because it pops up sometimes when i change my volume
[20:33] <groober> Jordan_U: only difference is root in place of admin. but admin is an administrator of the machine
[20:34] <Riley-> theres one question about it but nobody replied
[20:34] <plusJon_> Can Ubuntu run smoothly on my computer? Specs: http://reviews.cnet.com/motherboards/asus-a7v8x-mx-motherboard/4507-3049_7-31317867.html
[20:34] <nantou> help appreciated, ALSA, skype and ekiga http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2141100&p=12628760#post12628760
[20:35] <wilee-nilee> plusJon_Boot a live cd/usb and see.
[20:35] <Jordan_U> groober: An "administrator" account rarely has root privileges, at most they have rights to use sudo to run commands as root. A command writing directly to a disk device needs to be run as root.
[20:35] <plusJon> I did, but after
[20:35] <balachmar> @genii-around, I now have done what you said, rebooted. now my resolution is borked. It is still using nouveau however, nvidia does show up on lsmod now
[20:35] <plusJon> After I logged in, it was slow and unusable
[20:36] <wilee-nilee> plusJon, On a cd, are you familiar at all with open source?
[20:36] <groober> Jordan_U: if i do it with my admin, it reads    dd:   /Users/myname/Desktop/Desktop.img: No such file or directory
[20:36] <groober> not permission denied
[20:36] <plusJon> I had installed via a usb.
[20:36] <Dr_willis> groober,  sounds like you are using the wrong path or filename
[20:37] <groober> i copy pasted it
[20:37] <wilee-nilee> plusJon, Have you tried to get help here to find problems?
[20:37] <Dr_willis> groober,  whats the exact command you are using?
[20:37] <groober> actually, drag&drop
[20:37] <plusJon> That's what I'm doing now. :P
[20:37] <groober> bash-3.2$ su admin -c "dd if=/Users/myname/Desktop/Desktop.img of=/dev/disk1 bs=1m"
[20:37] <balachmar> @genii-around, I did add nvidia to xorg...
[20:38] <Ben64> groober: what? why are you using su
[20:38] <wilee-nilee> plusJon, Cool, always use nicks, so to get help you have to give details of specific problems, generally one at a time. ;)
[20:38] <Dr_willis> groober,  this is on os-x? i belve the gui does  things with the CASE of filenames. douvble check the path and name with the SHELL.
[20:38] <plusJon> I made a bootable Ubuntu USB, installed it. Once I logged it, it was so slow it was unusable. Went back to my Windows boot, and I'm seeking help here.
[20:38] <Dr_willis> groober,  your users actual name is 'myname' ? ;)
[20:39] <plusJon> wilee-nilee huh?
[20:39] <Jordan_U> groober: Your earlier pastebin shows that the result of that command was in fact "dd: /dev/disk1: Permission denied". Trust me, this command needs to be run as root, and the exact command I gave you will work (provided you know the root password, which you said earlier that you do).
[20:40] <groober> Dr_willis: i just drag and dropped the file in terminal. no human errors
[20:40] <Jordan_U> groober: Is there a reason that you don't want to run the command I gave you?
[20:40] <wilee-nilee> plusJon, Without any specific details and you having access to ubuntu while on here not much can be done possibly, do you have another computer or a smart phone to access the irc?
[20:40] <Dr_willis> groober,  double check the path with the shell.
[20:40] <plusJon> I'm on windows right now.  Just chatted: "Once I logged it, it was so slow it was unusable. Went back to my Windows boot, and I'm seeking help here."
[20:40] <Dr_willis> I wonder if the Pendrivelinux site has tools for OS-X.. i imagine it does.
[20:41] <wilee-nilee> plusJon, And lol just repeating yourself and not reading my posts, good luck with that. ;)
[20:41] <plusJon> Oh, wait, I was confused. :P
[20:41] <plusJon> I see what you mean now.
[20:42]  * wilee-nilee to the ignore with you.
[20:42] <piero> Which is the more reliable sun java ppa source?
[20:42] <groober> Dr_willis: assume my filename is right. i checked well for it, and the path too
[20:43] <groober> Jordan_U: well, i'm gonna try. i must disconnect, brb
[20:43] <Jordan_U> groober: Dr_willis: The filename problem is due to the lack of "-c", which is why it's important to use exactly the commands I give, as I give them.
[20:43] <wilee-nilee> piero, reliable is a subjective.
[20:44] <plusJon> Can anyone help me? :\ I can't really explain more to my issue as it simply runs very slowly. I right click, and it responds 30 seconds later.
[20:44] <plusJon> But only after I log in.
[20:44] <Ben64> plusJon: you should get a faster computer...
[20:45] <www> d
[20:45] <www> f
[20:45] <Jordan_U> Dr_willis: groober: su was trying to find an executable at the path "dd if=/Users/myname/Desktop/Desktop.img of=/dev/disk1 bs=1m", and clearly no such file exists as that's not meant to be a path.
[20:45] <www> a
[20:45] <piero> wilee-nilee, %s/reliable/best, that you use in your own computer if u need
[20:45] <plusJon> Ben64, I know it can run because before I log in, it's smooth.
[20:45] <wilee-nilee> piero, useless terms
[20:46] <Ben64> plusJon: before you log in, nothing is running
[20:46] <piero> wilee-nilee, are u mad?
[20:46] <Ben64> piero: don't
[20:46] <wilee-nilee> piero, Lol, my psychotherapist says I'm normal. ;)
[20:46] <Dr_willis> err.. I have quite a lot running on my Linux box befor i login. ;)
[20:46] <Ben64> plusJon: try xubuntu or lubuntu for a faster performance on a slower computer
[20:47] <plusJon> Ok. Well then is there an area where I can see the minimum specs for ubuntu? And thanks, I'll try that as well.
[20:47] <genii-around> balachmar: Apologies on lag, work required me
[20:47] <Myrtti> plusJon: do you have a browser on when it goes slow?
[20:47] <piero> wilee-nilee, no way.. i dont like you.. you looks like a fag
[20:47] <compex> plusJon - first I'd try something like fluxbox/openbox to see if it helps
[20:47] <balachmar> @genii-around, well, that sometime happens to me as well :)
[20:47] <Ben64> plusJon: depending on the version of ubuntu you're using, it probably defaults to unity and trying to have a 3d desktop
[20:47] <DJones> piero: Enough of that, be polite in the channel
[20:48] <plusJon> Myrtti I have nothing open. Just log in, then crash and burn.
[20:48] <wilee-nilee> !ops | piero
[20:48] <Ben64> wilee-nilee: relax, they already know
[20:48] <compex> plusjon - try using fluxbox
[20:48] <plusJon> Ben64, I tried the 12.04 version.
[20:48] <genii-around> balachmar: So you did the /etc/default/grub  edit and did: sudo update-grub  ..?   Might not hurt at same time to do: sudo update-initramfs -u    ..as well.
[20:48] <wilee-nilee> Ben64, cool, I am relaxed, lol
[20:48] <Dr_willis> plusJon,   also see if the guest user, or a newly made user has the same issues.
[20:48] <Ben64> wilee-nilee: don't need to !ops every time someone is mean though
[20:49] <compex> plusjon - what are the specs of your machine anyway?
[20:49] <Jordan_U> piero: That type of attidue toward others, and using homophobic slurs, are both unnacceptable in this channel. Please keep discussion civil.
[20:49] <Ben64> compex: it's an amd xp
[20:49] <plusJon> compex, http://reviews.cnet.com/motherboards/asus-a7v8x-mx-motherboard/4507-3049_7-31317867.html
[20:49] <balachmar> @genii-around, ok, will reboot again
[20:50] <wilee-nilee> Ben64, That is a comment that is intrinsically one that should cause a ban, marginalizing is not acceptable, and I'm not new here.
[20:50] <piero> Jordan_U, which homophobic slurs did i use? sorry.. english isnt trivial to me..
[20:50] <piero> Jordan_U, i was trying to say.. mad as sad or boring..
[20:50] <Dr_willis> or just trolling.
[20:51] <Jordan_U> piero: "fag" is a highly negative term for homosexuals.
[20:51] <compex> plusjon - damn o.O try running one of the lighter flavors man, ubuntu I think is too much for this xD
[20:51] <piero> Jordan_U, i did not know that.. sorry
[20:51] <Ben64> wilee-nilee: just letting you know, the ops don't like being triggered all the time, and if you've been around for a long time, you'd know that an op was already around and had responded to it before you did !ops
[20:52] <piero> Jordan_U, for me.. its looks like a "hater", "mad people".. "boring people.."
[20:52] <balachmar> @genii-around, hmm, still the same...
[20:52] <plusJon> Ok. I want to run linux for android development and such. Which kind do  you recommen?.
[20:52] <piero> whatever, sorry.. i was just trying to say wilee-nilee isnt cool.. :D
[20:52] <genii-around> balachmar: So lsmod is showing both nvidia and nouveau?
[20:53] <lukecarrier> Hi, I have a question regarding graphics drivers. I own a ThinkPad Edge E530, which mostly runs great, except for the fact that I can only boot into an Xfce/Gnome Classic session (12.10 and 13.04 both exhibit this behaviour). The system has dual graphics, which I suspect is the issue... I pasted my lshw output if anyone can spare any advice? Thanks! http://paste.ubuntu.com/5623851/ (sorry for repeat)
[20:53] <Ben64> piero: still not an acceptable attitude towards someone volunteering their time to help you
[20:53] <balachmar> @genii-around, yep
[20:53] <as2000> any suggestions for a FLV editor?
[20:53] <piero> Ben64, he was never trying to help me..
[20:53] <Myrtti> piero: move on
[20:53] <piero> and i dont think we should continue this discussion.. not here at least
[20:53] <bazhang> piero, just drop it
[20:54] <compex> plusjon - try damn small linux or puppy linux
[20:54] <nullby7e> xaxa
[20:54] <Dr_willis> tinycorelinux is really tiny. ;)
[20:54] <plusJon> I was thining DSL, but didn't know that was a full linux.
[20:54] <piero> anything i want here is to know which sun java source do you use?
[20:54] <Dr_willis> plusJon,  lubuntu would be the lightest 'ubuntu' variant.
[20:54] <johnjohn101> never heard of tinycore.  isn't puppy based on ubuntu anyway?
[20:54] <Ben64> piero: i use java in the ubuntu repositories
[20:54] <bazhang> !java | piero have a read and decide for yourself
[20:54] <Chidubem> I am having a problem with Ubuntu.
[20:55] <Myrtti> Chidubem: oh?
[20:55] <Dr_willis> johnjohn101,  thers so many puppy variants. I think theres a branch based on ubuntu  (or at least using ubuntu repos) Puppy is very weird in many ways
[20:55] <genii-around> balachmar: Does: grep nouveau /etc/modprobe.d/*  return any results?
[20:55] <nowx> Chidubem, really?
[20:55] <Chidubem> A bunch of paxHeader folders has been created by it.
[20:55] <piero> i cant use openjdk because the only vm working with my bank is sun jre7
[20:55] <darkmutt> i've got a cgoban 3 java application on my desktop that i can run easily visually but via commandline it's not so easy to go by command any ideas?
[20:56] <bazhang> piero, read th e links given you
[20:56] <Dr_willis> darkmutt,  how are you running it from the desktop? just doubleclicking the launcher?
[20:56] <Chidubem> I don't know why those folders have been created nor how to stop it.
[20:56] <darkmutt> yep just a simple doubleclick runs it after a while but it runs it
[20:57] <Dr_willis> darkmutt,  see what  commandline command the  launcher.desktop file is running
[20:57] <darkmutt> i was trying via commandline by it's name as the command when in desktop folder then with prepended . or /.
[20:57] <balachmar> @genii-around, ok, just tried 310 instead of 313... but still the same effect. Really have no clue why ubuntu is using nouveau...
[20:57] <Chidubem> Does anybody know how to prevent that?
[20:58] <bazhang> Chidubem, what is "it"
[20:58] <Dr_willis> darkmutt,  look IN the .desktop file see what the exec line is running
[20:58] <Chidubem> The automatic creation a bunch of paxHeader folders, I didn't create then, I think the Ubuntu system did.
[20:59] <bazhang> Chidubem, what is the context of this please
[20:59] <as2000> any suggestions for a FLV editor?
[21:00] <Chidubem> I packed all my files to a .tar file for backup. Then I extracted them to a external hard drive. Then I fond folders named paxHeader.
[21:00] <Dr_willis> as2000,  most people use a video editor. then export to whatever final format they need i imagine.
[21:00] <groober> Jordan_U: okay, i made it to work
[21:00] <genii-around> balachmar: I'd suggest one more edit then to explicity blacklist nouveau in the /etc/default/grub  file... add  nouveau.blacklist=1  after where it says splash but inside the quotes. Then again: sudo update-grub&& sudo update-initramfs -u
[21:00] <groober> now i hope it just works
[21:00] <Inoki> Hi guys, any designers here?
[21:01] <daftykins> define: designer
[21:01] <compex> Inoki - for what.. xD
[21:01] <bazhang> Inoki, designers of what?
[21:01] <Inoki> Graphic designers.
[21:01] <daftykins> Inoki: usually it's best to start with the most detailed question :>
[21:01] <Inoki> Sorry.
[21:01] <Ben64> Chidubem: where did you create the tar
[21:02] <balachmar> genii-around, ok, just did that will reboot again...
[21:02] <CorySimmons> How can I wget a website/dirs/subdirs if the site has one of those htpasswd things on it? I have the login for it, but don't know how to wget it.
[21:02] <Inoki> Got a general question regarding resolution in GFX software and export.
[21:02] <Chidubem> Internal HDD. Where I have Windows and NTFS.
[21:02] <bazhang> Inoki, whats the exact question
[21:02] <johnjohn101> how do i disable amazon in dash for 13.04?  my mom just gave me a call.
[21:03] <Ben64> Chidubem: i mean operating system. looks like thats a problem in bsd/osx
[21:03] <bazhang> !adlens > johnjohn101
[21:03] <darkmutt> problem is when i manage to log into that app all of a sudden i can't click anything in the second created window and that makes it impossible to use said app
[21:03] <Inoki> bazhang: I don't understand why if I get correct dimensions of a let's say banner and do exactly according to those dimensions, export at 96 PPI , which is the resolution of my display to get what I see the banner still doesn't fit? What could possibly go wrong?
[21:03] <Chidubem> I was using Ubuntu 12.10. I am using Ubuntu 13.04 now.
[21:03] <bazhang> Inoki, web design?
[21:03] <Inoki> bazhang: I've read countless articles on the internet stating that for web one should use the PPI of the monitor.
[21:03] <Ben64> Chidubem: maybe you used bsdtar instead of tar?
[21:04] <Inoki> bazhang: yer, web design. I know DPI is for printing.
[21:04] <Ben64> Inoki: just make it the resolution you want it to be, dpi doesn't matter for screen at all
[21:04] <groober> thanks, bye
[21:04] <Chidubem> I just right click the file and choose "Compress" I don't know which is the default program.
[21:05] <johnjohn101> tx bazhang,   she was getting annoyed
[21:05] <Inoki> bazhang: that's the point. I made it according to the resolution of the target area to be placed on the web, in this case a Facebook banner. I made a banner 801 * 295 px and it doesn't display the same.
[21:05] <as2000> Dr_willis: I don't need to convert it, I need to edit an FLV file
[21:05] <Inoki> bazhang: a group banner to be exact.
[21:05] <darkmutt> it's as if the mouse clicks simply go through the window :/
[21:05] <Dr_willis> johnjohn101,  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/10-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-13-04   item 8
[21:05] <Dr_willis> as2000,  the video editors all convert them internally as far as ive seen.. so you load it.. edit it.. export it/save it back to flv.
[21:06] <Dr_willis> as2000,  ive never seen a specific 'flv' editor. since flv is just a container format as far as i know
[21:06] <johnjohn101> dr_willis: tx.  i thought i had read it somewhere but slipped my mind.
[21:07] <johnjohn101> despite some of the underwhelming reviews on 13.04, i love it.
[21:07] <Chidubem> I was using Files/Nautilus, and there is no bsdtar in my machine right now. But I upgraded to Ubuntu 13.04
[21:07] <Dr_willis> johnjohn101,  people rant if ubuntu does too many changes.. now they rant when they dont do enough radical changes...
[21:08] <Dr_willis> 12.10 to 13.04 is just a lot of Polish and little tweaks  ;) and updated packages..
[21:08] <anew> when i go for /var/log/apache2 it says permission denied for this foldre ?
[21:09] <johnjohn101> all of linux is rapidly getting mature.  not sure how much more it can change, just keeps getting better.  starting to wonder if six months release schedule in really necessary.
[21:09] <Inoki> Ben64: I did. I made it exactly as the target resolution, it just doesn't display right.
[21:09] <Ben64> Inoki: how do you know
[21:10] <Inoki> Ben64: I checked the resolution of another banner of the same size via Chrome's inspector.
[21:10] <compex> i started using ubuntu with dapper, it is unbelievable how much better it has gotten :3
[21:11] <johnjohn101> dapper was which version?  I started using ubuntu 7.04 and 100% switched on home computer at 9.10.
[21:11] <compex> 6.06
[21:11] <Chidubem> Ben64: I just right click the file and choose "Compress" I don't know which is the default program.
[21:12] <anew> when i go for /var/log/apache2 it says permission denied for this foldre ?
[21:12] <Chidubem> Ben64: I was using Files/Nautilus, and there is no bsdtar in my machine right now. But I upgraded to Ubuntu 13.04
[21:12] <genii-around> johnjohn101: It was 6.06 ... the first Ubuntu to be behind schedule by 2 months
[21:12] <compex> I think the first SOLID release imo was 10.04. It was amazing
[21:12] <SrPx> Will "rm rf *" work without sudo?
[21:12] <compex> no driver issues at all
[21:12] <SrPx> s/rf/-rf
[21:12] <ctxmen> just try it
[21:13] <genii-around> SrPx: If the files in the directory you're in belong to you, it will wipe all those ones out
[21:13] <compex> I can't believe it has come to the point where I dread reinstalling Windows because of driver hell..
[21:13] <SrPx> genii-around: woa. :(
[21:13] <genii-around> SrPx: Use with caution.
[21:14] <meck0> Hi! Is is possible to configure "window border" and such in Unity (Ubuntu 13.04)? As I remeber, it was possible to conf themes more before in the Gnome-times. I think that the default window border is so large.
[21:14] <SrPx> genii-around: what about "rm rf /" ? Is it innofensive?
[21:15] <genii-around> SrPx: No, because /home/your-username  is one of those recursing directories
[21:15] <SrPx> genii-around: so even "rm -rf /" will delete stuff without sudo?
[21:15] <genii-around> SrPx: ( which belongs to you and therefore you have the right to remove )
[21:15] <johnjohn101> who maintains unity tweak tool?
[21:16] <k1l_> SrPx: that command will not work on ubuntu
[21:16] <genii-around> SrPx: Yes, if anything under there belongs to the user making that command.
[21:16] <genii-around> k1l_: Does it chunk out after hitting the first thing it can't remove?
[21:16] <SrPx> genii-around: but I thought it would ask for root as you have no permission over /
[21:16] <genii-around> SrPx: I haven't personally tried it because I don't want to find out.
[21:17] <SrPx> genii-around: /2 heh
[21:17] <k1l_> johnjohn101: apt-cache show packagename
[21:17] <k1l_> genii-around: preserve-root thingy saves ubuntu
[21:18] <genii-around> k1l_: Interesting.
[21:18] <johnjohn101> what is preserve-root?
[21:18] <k1l_> "man rm" who wants to find out more on that topic
[21:19] <as2000> Dr_willis: I just need to know an editor to use. I have an FLV file that is doing some funky things and want to see if I can salvage it
[21:21] <Aison>  hmm, raring upgrade fucked up my test machine.... strange
[21:21]  * genii-around makes more coffee and keeps a lookout for balachmar
[21:21] <Aison> I can boot with recovery mode, but then the kernel hangs at usb initialization or during /scripts/init-bottom
[21:22] <llldino> Aison, nvidia graphics card?
[21:22] <Aison> llldino, yes
[21:22] <wilee-nilee> !language > Aison
[21:22] <llldino> Aison, Join the club. Boot into nosetmode for now I guess
[21:22] <anew> can anyone hlelp me on a permissino denied for /var/log/apache2 ???
[21:22] <llldino> anew, sudo the cmd
[21:23] <zykotick9> illovae: Aison it's nomodeset.  see "/msg ubottu nomodeset" for details
[21:23] <Aison> thx all
[21:23] <johnjohn101> llldino, what's it going to take to get that nosetmode fixed without the workaround?
[21:23] <Aison> let me try it
[21:23] <anew> llldino i tried sudo cd but it says command not found ?
[21:23] <llldino> zykotick9, Really? I've been using nosetmode, is the cpu smart enough to correct my mistake?
[21:23] <zykotick9> !nomodeset
[21:24] <johnjohn101> is that really an nvidia bug?
[21:24] <llldino> johnjohn101, Beats me. An update to the splash maybe?
[21:24] <balachmar> genii-around, ok, I think I am going mad. even with the blacklist stuff it still loads nouveau instead of nvidia!!
[21:24] <llldino> johnjohn101, nividia is famous for messing up linux
[21:24] <waffle2> where can I find directions for filing an ubuntu bug report?
[21:24] <genii-around> balachmar: That is really weird.
[21:25] <zykotick9> !bug | waffle2
[21:25] <waffle2> thanks.
[21:25] <chutney> if I tried to run ubuntu server on an athlon 1.4ghz with 768mb ram, would it be acceptable or like totally slow?
[21:25] <Dr_willis> anew,  sudo cd        would not actually do anything.
[21:25] <balachmar> genii-around, and I see the nomodeset and blacklist stuff in grub.cfg as well. So the grub config was updated
[21:25] <llldino> chutney, It depends what you're running on it
[21:25] <johnjohn101> i agree with linus' reaction to nvidia last year
[21:25] <Dr_willis> anew,  sudo ls /path/to/whatever/    would show th efiles
[21:25] <genii-around> balachmar: At some point, did you try and install the driver from the main nvidia site, bypassing the package manager? If so, then this may also explain
[21:26] <chutney> llldino, I was thinking ubuntu 12 server
[21:26] <llldino> chutney, Yeah but what are you serving? Webpages?
[21:26] <chutney> yes
[21:26] <llldino> chutney, What's your traffic going to be like?
[21:26] <balachmar> genii-around, nope, because I know it might mess up your setup
[21:26] <chutney> not much traffic, just as  a test development server for one client
[21:27] <balachmar> genii-around, even weirder is, that lsmod does not show nouveau anymore, but it is still in the kernel.log
[21:27] <llldino> chutney, It would probably be acceptable. Depends on what your tx rate is and what kind of content is on the webpages
[21:27] <balachmar> I also blacklisted it in the modules stuff
[21:27] <chutney> it would only be on a 100mbit lan
[21:27] <anew> ah yes dr_willis, so then i see the files in here, how do you change things so i can cd in there ? or is that not recomended ?
[21:28] <martincho> holasss
[21:28] <Dr_willis> anew,  what are you even needing to do in there?
[21:29] <Dr_willis> !permissions | anew
[21:29] <genii-around> balachmar: If lsmod doesn't show it, then it's not *currently* loaded, which is something. Does the 4 lines:  blacklist nouveau and: blacklist lbm-nouveau  and: alias nouveau off   and:alias lbm-nouveau off    ...appear in the file /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf    ?
[21:29] <anew> dr_willis i just want to look at the logs with my ftp client
[21:29] <balachmar> chutney, I am running an ubuntu webserver on a vps with 512 MB ram, though I opted for lighttpd instead of apache
[21:29] <Dr_willis> anew,  change permissions on the directory then. and perhaps the files..  Better to use ssh these days and not ftp.
[21:30] <anew> not even to view logs dr_willis ?
[21:30] <balachmar> yes, although my file is called: nvidia-310_hybrid.conf
[21:30] <Dr_willis> anew,  sudo cat /path/to/the/file
[21:31] <balachmar> genii-around, yes, although my file is called: nvidia-310_hybrid.conf
[21:31] <genii-around> balachmar: Ok. Thats fine then.
[21:31] <anew> bleh
[21:31] <anew> i like my ftp :(
[21:31] <Dr_willis> then.. Change the permissions on the files..
[21:31] <Dr_willis> if thats what you want.
[21:31] <raininja> you down with ftp? THEN YOU KNOW ME
[21:32] <Dr_willis> http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie
[21:32] <genii-around> balachmar: I'm out of immediate ideas
[21:32] <llldino> Ftp is just asking for trouble, ssh does the same function more securely
[21:32] <anew> i dont understand tho, what trouble?  dont i need to use it to transfer files for my website ?
[21:33] <llldino> anew, Ftp transmits passwords in cleartext
[21:33] <Dr_willis> anew,  file transfer is ftps main design goal.. so  You just sort of said you dont need t use ftp then...
[21:33] <llldino> anew, And otehr content
[21:33] <Dr_willis> if all you wan tto do is view your log files.. ssh works well for that.
[21:33] <chutney> I thought vsftpd could handle encrypted passwords?
[21:33] <genii-around> balachmar: Are you using one of those cards with both nvidia and intel?
[21:34] <anew> meh ok, so dr_willis can i use sftp for uploading files to my server then? or that's bad also ?
[21:34] <balachmar> genii-around, yep
[21:34] <Dr_willis> anew Sftp - the S -> its using the ssh features
[21:34] <balachmar> genii-around, although I have put it to nvidia only in the bios
[21:34] <anew> oh
[21:34] <c0nsilience> hello
[21:34] <anew> so if i'm using sftp no big deal if i do everything thru there right ?
[21:35] <balachmar> genii-around, that was required before... maybe not anymore?
[21:35] <Dr_willis> !ssh | anew
[21:35] <genii-around> balachmar: Not sure, I haven't had to set up bumblebee or so on :-/ But it's a possibility
[21:36] <llldino> balachmar, Are you having trouble with boot using nvidia too?
[21:36] <balachmar> genii-around, I never set up bumblebee either, because I don't care about the switching, I just need the nvidia stuff to work
[21:36] <genii-around> balachmar: All the other things check out
[21:36] <compex> balachmar - look into setting up bb then, it is really easy
[21:36] <Aison> back
[21:36] <Aison> I tried with nomodeset
[21:36] <balachmar> llldino, booting is fine, it just isn't using the nvidia drivers and hence performance is bad...
[21:36] <Aison> but no help
[21:37] <Aison> the kernel hangs after printing a few lines
[21:37] <llldino> balachmar, Did you try the drivers from Xorg?
[21:37] <genii-around> balachmar: But you said nouveau wasn't loaded now... maybe it's going to the intel driver?
[21:37] <balachmar> llldino, xorg? I am trying to use the nvidia drivers form the repo
[21:37] <compex> balachmar - I am using GeForce GT 540M/PCIe/SSE2 with bb and it works beautifully
[21:38] <llldino> balachmar, Yeah sry that's what I meant.
[21:38] <compex> balachmar  - don't use nvidia drivers from repos :0
[21:38] <compex> I heard that breaks things
[21:38] <balachmar> @compex, is there a guide for setting it up? I generally want to stick to repo stuff as much as possible
[21:39] <balachmar> @compex, generally you break things by using the nvidia driver straight from nvidia...
[21:39] <compex> balachmar - it is really easy o.o https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[21:39] <genii-around> balachmar: Maybe if you pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log   and possibly ~/.xsession-errors    there may be some clues
[21:39] <compex> balachmar - I heard using the nvidia drivers from repos with optimus breaks stuff
[21:40] <llldino> nvidia + linux = disaster anyways, at least in my case
[21:40] <compex> balachmar - some people just end up getting black screens
[21:40] <compex> llldino - it is a lot better now, pretty smooth now a days :P
[21:40] <ubuntuaddicted> i've never had issues with nvidia
[21:40] <k1l_> llldino: depends :/
[21:40] <balachmar> llldino, this is the first time I am having any real issues. And it is because of optimus tech
[21:40] <llldino> Well I mean with new kernals like raring
[21:40] <DrELECTRO> HelloWorld from XUbuntu
[21:41] <compex> I was pleasantly surprised at how well bumblebee worked. And nVidia is terrible, they don't support optimus on linux
[21:41] <martincho> alguien sabe como empaquetar una aplicacion en ubuntu?
[21:41] <ubuntuaddicted> BUT i've never used it when there were 2 GPU's in the computer
[21:41] <balachmar> genii-around, aah, it says it cannot find the nvidia mod
[21:42] <balachmar> genii-around, and it is dropping to vesa drivers. hence the terrible res
[21:42] <MrStein> I run live CD and in firefox when opening www.ubuntu.com  (sub)pages, the formatting is wrong. As if CSS is not loaded.  I tried several versions of Ubuntu CD (12.04, 13.04...) Is this some known issue?
[21:43] <Dr_willis> nvidia has made some promises to support optimus on linux.. but no idea how much work they have actually done.
[21:43] <usr13> MrStein: Probably, but it's LiveCD so...
[21:43] <Dr_willis>
[21:43] <MrStein> usr13: what do you mean by "it's LiveCD"?
[21:44] <compex> it's a shame, optimus is so awesome :3
[21:44] <genii-around> balachmar: Odd since lsmod is showing that nvidia driver loaded.
[21:44] <usr13> MrStein: You should install and not have to  use just the LiveCD.
[21:44] <MrStein> usr13: but I need it as a rescue system only.
[21:44] <balachmar> genii-around, lsmod just says this for nvidia: nvidia               9410995  0
[21:44] <usr13> MrStein: How about USB?
[21:45] <MrStein> usr13: actually it is on USB. But don't see how this should affect the Firefox issue.
[21:45] <genii-around> balachmar: The 0 at the end shows it's not being used by anything though :-/
[21:45] <usr13> MrStein: So do your install on a USB.
[21:45] <llldino> MrStein, It's probably because flash/javascript/java isn't installed thru a LiveCD
[21:46] <balachmar> genii-around, which agrees with the xorg log...
[21:46] <MrStein> usr13: you mean live is unsupported/substandard?
[21:46] <compex> MrStein - Live cd is a preview of a sort.
[21:46] <Nadiyama> Hi, I've installed wine, openjdk and mplayer. No one of them is actually showed up in the "application" list to open with when I right click a file. Why?
[21:47] <genii-around> balachmar: Well, I normally would not suggest a PPA but in this case you may want to try adding the xorg-edgers one since the drivers there may be working with the Optimus cards
[21:47] <MrStein> compex: I know. It gives a negative preview, as it is....
[21:47] <balachmar> genii-around, I will call it a day for now. Will try some more tomorrow...
[21:47] <balachmar> genii-around, thanks for the help!
[21:48] <balachmar> and other too :)
[21:48] <compex> MrStein - Not really. It is running an entire OS from your USB drive. You can't expect it to do everything but it does work very well for recovery stuff.
[21:48] <genii-around> balachmar: You're welcome, just wish the issue was resolved. Good luck tomorrow.
[21:48] <MrStein> compex: well it does quite a lot, so I don't see why CSS should not work...
[21:49] <compex> MrStein - I wasn't paying attention, exactly what problem are you having?
[21:49] <usr13> MrStein: I did not say that it is unsupported or substandard, but as compex points, the LiveCD part is for demo, (not a system you would use as if it were full blown OS). I've given you the best advise.
[21:49] <MrStein> compex: www.ubuntu.com displayed with bad formattings (very basic, as if CSS is missing)
[21:50] <MrStein> this ahppens with different versions of Ubuntu.
[21:50] <MrStein> happens
[21:50] <MrStein> I cleared cache and everything (ctrl-shift-del) and now it works. Bizarre.
[21:50] <shomon> hi, I can't connect to the internet on my computer, it's connected via ethernet, but how can I find out what is going on?
[21:51] <shomon> I'm connecting via another cable to this laptop and I'mpretty sure the cable going into the one that doesn't work is fine.
[21:51] <johnjohn101> i was reading about all of the nvidia issues. what is bumblebee?
[21:51] <compex> MrStein - it happens sometimes. I have had formatting issues happen on all OS's, refresh fixes it
[21:51] <Discordian93_> Hi
[21:51] <llldino> shomon, Do ifconfig and post
[21:51] <usr13> MrStein: If you want to install Ubuntu, do so. If you have questions relate to a Ubuntu install, fire away.  (I'm pretty sure you'll not find anyone here that is interested attempting to the browsing experience of a LiveCD).
[21:51] <compex> johnjohn101 - It allows you to use both of your GPUs in optimus
[21:52] <genii-around> johnjohn101: It's software that lets you switch outputs of one of those hybrid cards back and forth between the Intel and the Nvidia
[21:52] <Discordian93_> I can't import pygame with python 3, can anyone help?
[21:52] <compex> johjohn101 - and optimus is nvidia/intel technology that allows you to have 2 GPU, one dedicated and one integrated for performance and battery life
[21:52] <johnjohn101> so intel chip with nvidia card?
[21:53] <compex> ya
[21:53] <usr13> MrStein: Why don't you install on a USB drive?
[21:53] <compex> it's really nice
[21:53] <compex> i get ~6-8 hours of battery life on this laptop
[21:53] <MrStein> Now I can get to the real problem:  booting ubuntu 13.04-desktop-i386.iso from USB (live) gives corruption in reading the iso image. Happens on two USB stick, on USB3.0 port and USB2.0 port. Is this known?  I get random errors, and md5sum gives wronf sum. I I read a lot from the USB and redo the md5sum, it gives correct results in this second run.
[21:53] <codepython777> I want to execute a script when "shutdown" begins, but TERM signal hasnt been sent to the processes. I understand that this can be done using "upstart" which looks complicated. Is there an easy way to do this?
[21:54] <MrStein> usr13:  It is a rescue USB stick with many OS'es.  Ubuntu installation would require own partition etc... too much hassle.
[21:54] <shomon> llldino, I only get "lo" details when I do ifconfig
[21:55] <MrStein> then you're probably missing hte correct driver
[21:55] <compex> MrStein - if your md5 is wrong.. I don't know xD You ahve very weird issues
[21:55] <llldino> shomon, Do you know what controller you have? You can do lspci -v | grep LAN to find out
[21:55] <MrStein> for the LAN interface card
[21:55] <shomon> I've tried to start network-manager and networking in /etc/init.d but network-manager has most options grayed out
[21:55] <usr13> MrStein: What are you saying about the checksum?
[21:55] <shomon> just trying llldino
[21:55] <llldino> shomon, And have you installed restricted-extras package yet?
[21:56] <MrStein> usr13: it is wrong in the first try, but later OK. As if some corruption happens during boot on the read data.
[21:56] <Dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/search?q=run+script+on+shutdown      codepython777  has several ways.
[21:56] <usr13> MrStein: You ran md5sum on the iso image?
[21:56] <MrStein> yes
[21:56] <MrStein> twice
[21:56] <shomon> grep LAN gives nothing llldino
[21:56] <MrStein> first is always wrong on each boot, reproducibly
[21:56] <shomon> I'll check.. not sure how to check it's installed...
[21:56] <llldino> shomon, Do you know what LAn controller you have?
[21:56] <MrStein> shomon: try ifconfig -a
[21:57] <johnjohn101> compex: i was thinking of a new nvidia card for steam.  what is optimal and where i will have no issues installing the nvidia drivers?
[21:57] <llldino> shomon, You can do sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras and if it's installed nothing will happen
[21:58] <wilee-nilee> MrStein, What app are you using to load the usb?
[21:58] <codepython777> Dr_willis: thanks. Interesting - On ubuntu: /etc/init.d/README says I'm on debian :)
[21:58] <MrStein> wilee-nilee: it boots with GRUB4DOS, I just copy the ISO file on it and add an entry into menu.lst
[21:59] <shomon> llldino, okay
[21:59] <MrStein> maybe I should try booting with grub2
[21:59] <wilee-nilee> MrStein, So what is your goal here one iso or many and what OS's do you have to work with?
[21:59] <compex> johnjohn101 - I have never had an issue with nvidia hardware after 10.04, you are pretty safe in getting anything you want
[21:59] <MrStein> wilee-nilee: many ISOs bootable from USB stick
[21:59] <shomon> ifconfig -a now gives both eth0 and lo, but eth0 has no net addr value
[21:59] <llldino> shomon, If you're using xubuntu or lubuntu, replace ubuntu with xubuntu ect..
[22:00] <shomon> it's ubuntu
[22:00] <shomon> ok
[22:00] <johnjohn101> compex: why all the nvidia issues i see on this board?  nomodeset?
[22:00] <Dr_willis> MrStein,  the Pendrivelinux site has some tools for linux to setup grub2 on a usb to boot differnt iso files
[22:00] <llldino> johnjohn101, Because it's nvidia
[22:00] <codepython777> /etc/rc6.d/K99xx.py - is this executed at shutdown before or after TERM is sent to all processes?
[22:01] <wilee-nilee> MrStein, Ans what installed OS's personaly I use the multisystem usb loader it runs from ubuntu or linux, one partition and uses grub4dos fro windows boots and grub 2 for others.
[22:01] <Dr_willis> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[22:01] <shomon> llldino, "ubuntu-restricted-extras is already the newest version"
[22:01] <wilee-nilee> that is the one
[22:01] <shomon> sorry am running between the too pooters
[22:01] <shomon> two
[22:01] <llldino> shomon, Hm, do you see anything with lspci?
[22:01] <MrStein> I already created a multiboot USB
[22:01] <MrStein> I just have weird (RAM?) corruption with latest ubuntu
[22:02] <llldino> shomon, What do you mean? Sharing interntet?
[22:02] <chutney> buggy drivers can cause memory corruption
[22:02] <shomon> both computers are connected to the same wifi device, the one that isn't working was working fine 4 months ago when I had it out of it's box last
[22:03] <shomon> llldino, I checked lspci but maybe I need to grep it.. loads of info
[22:03] <warfaren_> so.. i use a PS/2 mouse and i want to increase the polling rate of it. i found this: http://www.unixresources.net/linux/lf/45/archive/00/00/08/77/87711.html but i don't have /etc/X11/XF86Config. guess that's obsolete as that thread is from 2004?
[22:03] <shomon> Realtek Semiconductor Co is the last line though
[22:03] <llldino> shomon, You said Grep lan didn't show anything, maybe scroll through the list and look for a wireless LAn card. Did you do LAN in caps?
[22:03] <compex> johnjohn101 - I honestly have no idea. I had to set up my friend's desktop with linux last thursday and he was running an nvidia card (forget which) and it went without a hitch
[22:03] <shomon> yes and without :)
[22:04] <usr13> !memtest | MrStein
[22:04] <llldino> shomon, You're probably going to have to install the driver manually then. What card do you have?
[22:04] <shomon> but I'm not connected over wireless
[22:04] <shomon> there is no wireless card, only eth0 straight to the wifi box
[22:04] <MrStein> usr13: it only happens with ubuntu 13.04, others are fine
[22:04] <llldino> shomon, ..What's your issue? You want Wifi cxn right?
[22:04] <shomon> no
[22:04] <johnjohn101> compex: thanks.  just trying to figure out new equipment.   seriously my intel box at home is 5 years old and runs all ubuntu features on a live cd
[22:04] <shomon> I want eth0
[22:04] <shomon> no wifi on this computer
[22:05] <shomon> I am connecting via cat5 cable direct to wifi modem
[22:05] <MrStein> you mean "router"
[22:05] <shomon> but it used to work.. now I don't know why it stopped, but something is read only
[22:05] <shomon> yeah sorry
[22:05] <usr13> MrStein: You "have weird (RAM?) corruption with latest ubuntu"?
[22:06] <usr13> MrStein: What is your question?  (I'm afraid we do not understand.)
[22:06] <llldino> shomon, Try a different cable? Or verify the cable works. Does the port on your  modem/cpu work?
[22:06] <shomon> I have tried a few. ok will change port on the router, I hadn't tried that!
[22:06] <gridwest> I am looking for a free Avery 5931/8931 cd & dvd labeling template to use in GIMP.  I have already check the
[22:06] <chutney> MrStein, if it doesn't happen with other versions, you might have gotten a bad livecd download, or it could be buggy drivers in 13
[22:06] <MrStein> us13: is there a RAM/filesystem/dev corruption bug in latest ubnut? because I experience it.
[22:06] <llldino> shomon, And doers lspci -v | grep Ethernet give anything?
[22:07] <genii-around> Maybe the adapter is old and can't autodetect from straight-thru to crossover
[22:07] <gridwest> ...avery site.  does anyone know where I can find free Avery 5931/8931 cd labeling template?
[22:07] <usr13> MrStein: I don't think so.
[22:07] <MrStein> chutney: the md5sum is OK, so the download is not bad
[22:08] <wilee-nilee> MrStein, I have seen md5's be correct and yet corrupt.
[22:08] <shomon> hmm
[22:08] <shomon> I plugged it into another port on the router, and the computer just hung
[22:08] <shomon> :)
[22:09] <shomon> ah well, restarting. I guess something interesting has happened...
[22:10] <llldino> shomon, You can try restarting the modem too. I know my modem gets weird if it's left on for a long time. Clear DHCP cache too for good measure
[22:10] <Dr_willis> for a straight cable connection. either you need a crossover cable. (or a hub) or one (or both) of the nics need to  have that Auto Sensceing feature. I think all the 1000speed nics have that feature
[22:10] <shomon> ok well.. I'll be gone for a bit if I do that, back now!
[22:10] <llldino> shomon, gl
[22:10] <usr13> gridwest: avery.com
[22:11] <wilee-nilee> gridwest, I see nothing on the web for ubuntu or linux
[22:11] <warfaren> auto sensing has been around for ages i think.. even my old xbox (from 2001) has it
[22:11] <MrStein> wilee-nilee: would you trust sha256sum?
[22:12] <wilee-nilee> MrStein, I think you are caught up in assumptions, that is what I accept. ;)
[22:12] <MrStein> wilee-nilee: I just checke sha256 , it is OK.
[22:12] <gridwest> Alright thanks, I check the avery site and downloaded a template for 5931/8931 and it does not work well, thanks for the help.
[22:13] <MrStein> wilee-nilee: you do realize how unlikely it is to get correct MD5 (and SHA256) for a bad download?
[22:13] <wilee-nilee> MrStein, Could be your usb setup try one that is known to work.
[22:13] <shomon> hi again
[22:13] <llldino> shomon, Did it work?
[22:13] <shomon> while booting, the computer said "waiting for network configuration" for a while
[22:13] <MrStein> wilee-nilee: this one works, I have 10 ISOs on it that worked until now
[22:13] <shomon> I'm waiting to log in now.. it didn't seem to find a connection though
[22:13] <MrStein> also the 2 I tried now continue to work
[22:14] <wilee-nilee> MrStein, It does not seem to work for what you are trying, this is an assumption, however you are assuming it does.
[22:14] <llldino> shomon, Try lspci -v | grep Ethernet
[22:14] <shomon> ok.. still in the darkness of slow login :S
[22:14] <MrStein> gotta go, thanks for everything...
[22:15] <shomon> 02:00 0 Ethernet controller: realtek Semiconductor Co. , Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102EPCI Express Fast Ethernet controller
[22:16] <faLUCE> hello, I installed windows 7 on a system with ubuntu, but now I can't choose boot with grub and I'm forced to boot windows. how can I fix that? Is there a grub rescue iso?
[22:17] <warfaren> faLUCE: you can boot a live cd, chroot and install grub again. or you can use EasyBCD from windows to add ubuntu into its boot menu
[22:17] <wilee-nilee> !grub | faLUCE
[22:17] <usr13> faLUCE: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[22:17] <Dr_willis> !fixgrub | faLUCE
[22:17] <llldino> shomon, Still no connection?
[22:17] <shomon> llldino, it works now, but I had to manually run "start network-manager" as sudo
[22:18] <llldino> shomon, Oh just add that to the startup script then; though it should automatically start
[22:18] <shomon> where is the startup script?
[22:18] <faLUCE> warfaren: easybcd is not free... is there anything similar and free for windows?
[22:19] <redj1122> can i get help here for arpspoof? or what would be the more appropriate channel?
[22:19] <shomon> llldino, do you know where I might find the startup script? it's ubuntu 12.04
[22:19] <warfaren> faLUCE: it's free for private use.
[22:20] <llldino> shomon, Go to Settings > Startup and add network manager to startup programs
[22:20] <shomon> thanks!
[22:20] <gustav> Hello. I'm trying to setup exim. Having some trouble with it claiming not to be able to bind to port 25, but it is in fact bound to it. It's not accept connections on it, though.
[22:20] <llldino> shomon, There's probably an easier way but that goes beyond the scope of my knowledge
[22:20] <redj1122> where would i go to talk about arpspoof? backtrack wasn't very helpful
[22:20] <shomon> hmm another question then. how do I get rid of unity or whatever this line of icons is down the side of the screen
[22:21] <savio> Hi all
[22:21] <gr33n7007h> redj1122, try kali-linux
[22:21] <Dr_willis> shomon,  use a differnt desktop.
[22:21] <llldino> shomon, Install xubuntu instead :)
[22:21] <shomon> I'd rather have the old fashioned thing I used to have :)
[22:21] <faLUCE> warfaren: thanks
[22:21] <usr13> shomon: ubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop lubuntu-desktop etc.
[22:21] <shomon> so no way of removing that and running xfce or something with ubuntu?
[22:21] <Dr_willis> !nounity | shojo
[22:21] <redj1122> it's not the distro i have a problem with. arpspoof -i wlan0 -t (target) (router) returns with "couldn't arp for host ..."
[22:21] <usr13> shomon: I use xubuntu-desktop
[22:21] <Dr_willis> shomon,  you can easially install xubuntu-desktop and have xfce
[22:21] <warfaren> faLUCE: no worries. if they're making you register just search for "easybcd free" and you'll surely find it somewhere else :P
[22:21] <shomon> cool, thanks!
[22:22] <shomon> sorry shojo for the info spam :)
[22:22] <Dr_willis> ;)
[22:22] <usr13> shomon: just do  sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[22:22] <redj1122> oh i see, go to their channel. alright
[22:22] <shomon> cool, thanks usr13
[22:22] <gridwest>  thank you for the help :)
[22:23] <Dr_willis> 13.10 + the gnome 3.8 ppas have the gnome devs official gnome-2 look mode i belive.
[22:23] <gr33n7007h> redj1122, that happens when target is down
[22:23] <shomon> thanks llldino and Dr_willis too!
[22:23] <shojo> shomon: ???
[22:24] <highlander4fun> Boa noite
[22:24] <redj1122> gr33n7007h, i've confirmed with ping
[22:24] <highlander4fun> alguem me ajuda a adicionar o windows 8 como opção de boot no ubuntu 12.04
[22:24] <llldino> shojo, Np
[22:25] <highlander4fun> ubuntu não ta achando meu windows 8 quando uso o comando update-grub
[22:25] <llldino> shomon, Np
[22:25] <gr33n7007h> redj1122, double check wlan0 is the interface
[22:26] <redj1122> done. the only others are eth0 and lo
[22:26] <redj1122> sorry, i mean gr33n7007h i'm sure. i don't want to be in monitor mode do I?
[22:27] <gr33n7007h> redj1122, no not in monitor mode
[22:27] <tyrog> Hello, is there a stable PPA for Unity in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS?
[22:27] <redj1122> right, that's what i thought.
[22:27] <redj1122> gr33n7007h, is there any way to tell where it's failing? would logs say?
[22:27] <gr33n7007h> redj1122, it could only be target ip or router ip addresses are wrong then
[22:27] <tyrog> !pt
[22:28] <dward> how should I redo an upgrade that stopped half way through?
[22:28] <tyrog> Hello, is there a stable PPA for Unity in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS??
[22:29] <savio> PPA is build my users
[22:31] <savio> Ppa might make system unstable
[22:31] <tyrog> savio: Actually, not all of them
[22:32] <savio> tyrog: some might as ur are asking about unity PPA
[22:38] <cpare> All - have there been patched since the 13.04 release?  My Software updater still reports no updates
[22:38] <cpare> I am wondering if I am missing a repository, or have a partial upgrade
[22:39] <savio> tyrog: once I tried gnome 3.6 ppa for my 12.10 it works fine with minor crash
[22:39] <Dr_willis> cpare,  try a 'sudo apt-get update'  'sudo apt-get upgrade'
[22:40] <cpare> Dr_willis - it still reports no updates needed
[22:40] <minetape> hello, where does Ubuntu plop home on the hard drive?
[22:41] <Dr_willis> cpare,  then you are up to date.
[22:41] <cpare> minetape /home
[22:41]  * minetape facepalm
[22:41] <Dr_willis> minetape,  default install puts / and home on he same parittion........
[22:41] <cpare> Dr_willis - I find it hard to believe no updates 7 days after upgrading to a new release
[22:41] <minetape> There is no home on the hard drive
[22:41] <Dr_willis> cpare,  if apt says no.. then you are uo to date.
[22:42] <Dr_willis> cpare,  try a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade   perhaps
[22:42] <Dr_willis> mindstorm,  cd /home/ does what then?
[22:42] <cpare> Dr_willis - or my repositories are wrong
[22:43] <minetape> I'm on a vector Linux live cd, were do I find home?
[22:43] <Dr_willis> minetape,  every disrto ive ever seen uses /home/
[22:43] <cpare> Has anyone seen a 13.04 Software update?
[22:43] <OerHeks> cpare, there were 2 updates today, skype and one more
[22:43] <Dr_willis> No idea what vector linux is.. so i suggest checking its own forums/support channels
[22:44] <cpare> OerHeks - ok then, I must have a bad repository mapped
[22:44] <OerHeks> but that is for 64 bit.
[22:44] <cpare> Oerheks - Thanks, I wanted to make sure there had been something
[22:44] <jrib> OerHeks: isn't skype in partner?
[22:44] <OerHeks> cpare, maybe not bad repo's, chgange the mirror
[22:44] <akaSoldats> :o
[22:45] <OerHeks> jrib yes.
[22:45] <w30>  /part
[22:45] <jrib> cpare: you may just not have partner enabled
[22:45] <cpare> jrib - I do have partner enabled
[22:45] <minetape> Whoever just pinged me, PM me, because free node an safari won't let me scroll
[22:45] <OerHeks> jrib skype and apparmor 2.8.0
[22:45] <jrib> minetape: minimize and unminimize
[22:46] <cpare> Xchat
[22:49] <Nkd> someone in here who is a master on SQL?
[22:49] <cpare> Nkd - I may be able to help
[22:50] <cpare> Nkd - I work in Business Intelligence
[22:50] <Nkd> Ok i will send the quistion i have in school
[22:51] <redj1122> gr33n7007h, does one card have to be connected to the network while another does all the spoofing? i don't think so
[22:52] <gr33n7007h> redj1122, no
[22:52] <redj1122> gr33n7007h, if i don't specify a target it will hold indefinitely but never shows any replies
[22:53] <gr33n7007h> redj1122, thats right there will be no output if you don't specify a target it spoofs the entire subnet
[22:54] <jefferson> Hi, I am new here, but I have a problem with Ubuntu 13.04 in Dell XPS 15 using two monitors
[22:54] <Nkd> Cpare: "The tax authority wants a list of persons working for company called Nordic Power. The list should only include the person identity numbers"
[22:54] <Nkd> Cpare; maybe not so tuff quistion for you but still helpfull if you give me some input how to manage this in SQL
[22:55] <redj1122> gr33n7007h, perhaps it's because i'm using my iphone. how do i scan for connected ip's. netmap?
[22:55] <cpare> Nkd - What do the tables look like?
[22:55] <cpare> Nkd - can I assume it's a single table
[22:55] <gr33n7007h> redj1122, nmap yes
[22:55] <michealPW> I'm running Kubuntu 13.04 ony my ASUS K75DE laptop. I'm having Power Management issues.
[22:56] <michealPW> Kubuntu sleeps fine and resumes from sleep fine, if I manually put it to sleep... However it will not seem to do anything on its own.
[22:56] <torpet> hi, i have a major problem with my thinkpad touchpad
[22:57] <michealPW> For example, it will not Dim the Backlight, does not turn the screen off or put the laptop to sleep if left idle, even for extended periods of time.
[22:57] <torpet> whenever i use it to move the cursor and a second finger touches the pad, it stops moving
[22:57] <torpet> *the cursor stops moving
[22:57] <torpet> is there a way to disable that and emulator macbook behavior?
[22:57] <torpet> *emulate
[22:58] <cpare> Nkd - Assuming it's all in one table called Nkd_Data, and the table fields are (Company_Name, Person_ID, Person_Name) the SQL would be "Select Person_ID from Nkd_Data where Company_Name='Nordic Power'"
[22:58] <cpare> Nkd - do you have a table mapping for the database?
[22:59] <redj1122> gr33n7007h, nmap isn't coming back with anything
[22:59] <Nkd> tblCompany wich has ComID and ComName in it , and the you have the tblcitizen with citsSocSecNo, CitFirstName, CitLastName, CitMarriedTo , TaxKey and CitLastVisit
[23:00] <gr33n7007h> redj1122, what command did you use?
[23:00] <redj1122> gr33n7007h, nmap xx.xx.xx.1-254
[23:01] <Nkd> Cpare: tblCompany wich has ComID and ComName in it , and the you have the tblcitizen with citsSocSecNo, CitFirstName, CitLastName, CitMarriedTo , TaxKey and CitLastVisit
[23:01] <cpare> Nkd - tblcompany is going to be a lookup table, are you familiar with those?
[23:02] <cpare> Nkd - and tblcitizen has the info for each "Citizen"
[23:02] <cpare> Nkd - tblCompany will have the company info
[23:03] <gr33n7007h> redj1122, try redj1122 try:  netdiscover -i wlan0 -r routerip/24
[23:03] <redj1122> gr33n7007h, i think my problem is that my iphone is at xx.xx.55.13 while i'm at xx.xx.24.15
[23:03] <redj1122> gr33n7007h, i'll try that
[23:03] <cpare> Nkd - So we will need to do an inner join on ComID
[23:04] <cpare> Nkd - or we could do a nested select, but that's probably not what your instructor wants to see
[23:05] <Nkd> Cpare: ok yeah it feels like im not far away but still something is wrong on this
[23:06] <cpare> Nkd - Is there another table
[23:06] <cpare> Nkd - I don't see a ComID in the tblCitizen
[23:07] <cpare> nkd - so there is no clear way to join them
[23:07] <redj1122> gr33n7007h, that was successful. i'm arping for the client-router, but get my previous problem when trying to tell the router i'm the client
[23:08] <redj1122> gr33n7007h, in so many words, i'm halfway working
[23:08] <Nkd> Cpare: yea you have a tblCompany with ComRegId and ComName
[23:08] <Nkd> Cpare: maybe thats need to be involved to
[23:09] <gr33n7007h> redj1122, use arpspoof twice 1) target router  2) router target
[23:10] <redj1122> gr33n7007h, i'm failing on router target
[23:10] <redj1122> gr33n7007h, "can't arp as..."
[23:10] <gr33n7007h> redj1122, what is your router ip your ip and target ip?
[23:11] <cpare> Nkd - so ComName is the company name
[23:12] <darthanubis> anyone here use autofs?
[23:12] <darthanubis> !autofs
[23:12] <Nkd> Cpare: yes that would be right i think
[23:12] <cpare> Nkd - but how do we get to the Citizen table - we have to find a table that references the ComID
[23:13] <edunat> spike spanish?...
[23:14] <redj1122> gr33n7007h, router: xxx.xx.54.1, my ip: xxx.xx.24.15, target: xxx.xx.24.96
[23:15] <Nkd> Cpare: hmm yea thats my biggest quistionmark to, for me who just got the basics this is wierd. I know its hard for you now when you don't see the tables or relationships fully
[23:15] <cpare> Nkd - How many total tables in the example
[23:15] <redj1122> gr33n7007h, just to confirm where do i find the router ip?
[23:15] <Yoshie> ubuntu 13.04 64 bit MotherBoard ASROCK n68-vs3 fx   Not connected to the internet , http://tinyurl.com/bocr4lc
[23:15] <cpare> Nkd - I am only aware of two from what you have given me
[23:16] <gr33n7007h> redj1122, route -n
[23:16] <sylflo> hi people
[23:16] <Yoshie> hello sylflo
[23:16] <Volk> Oh god.
[23:17] <edunat> Volk: Spike Spanish?, Plis?
[23:18] <cpare> Nkd - my list so far is
[23:18] <cpare> TblCompany
[23:18] <cpare> 	ComID
[23:18] <cpare> 	ComName
[23:18] <cpare> tblCitizen
[23:18] <cpare> 	citsSocSecNo
[23:18] <FloodBot1> cpare: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:19] <edunat> +z
[23:19] <sylflo> why do you like ubuntu ? it 's a bad os
[23:19] <Yoshie> than why are you on an Ubuntu channel ?
[23:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> anyone here had success setting up bitlbee with skype?
[23:19] <redj1122> gr33n7007h, that was the problem
[23:19] <gr33n7007h> redj1122, What was it?
[23:20] <edunat> Plis...canal in spanish?...
[23:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> !es | edunat
[23:20] <sylflo> join #bsd
[23:20] <edunat> Gracias. Tank you!
[23:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> XD
[23:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> edunat: de nada
[23:21] <Yoshie> sylflo and your using Free BSD I presume ?
[23:21]  * betrayd hands sylflo a slash
[23:22] <sylflo> i was i'm on arch
[23:23] <sylflo> ubuntu was better before i don't like it now
[23:23] <sylflo> but i think it's a good os for people who come from Windows
[23:24] <Yoshie> ubuntu 13.04 64 bit MotherBoard ASROCK n68-vs3 fx   Not connected to the internet , http://tinyurl.com/bocr4lc
[23:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> sylflo: honestly I think xubuntu is a good starter from windows <7, similar ui and all
[23:27] <sylflo> ubuntu or xubuntu it's the same it's the graphic interface which change that's all
[23:27] <Yoshie> sylflo if you really want to be happy, if you got enough skill that is..... Id say go with Gentoo :)
[23:28] <sylflo> I don't like to compile with source it's too long
[23:28] <sylflo> it did it with kde 4 hour
[23:28] <Yoshie> lol, alright..
[23:28] <sylflo> on freebsd
[23:28] <sylflo> it nice if you need to change the code
[23:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> sylflo: exactly, which is why I think {l,x}ubuntu would be better for new users from windows versions <=7, as the ui is more similar than unity.
[23:29] <sylflo> i agree ntzrmtthihu777
[23:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> :P
[23:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> personally I started with lucid, so I was rather miffed at the advent of unity. then I gave xubuntu a try lately and fell right in love :P
[23:30] <sylflo> i started with ubuntu then freebsd then archlinux
[23:30] <daftykins> yeah unity is to older ubuntus as windows 8 is to <=7
[23:32] <Oryx> You know, it kind of upsets me that Nautilus understands smb (Samba) and not nfs out of the box :(
[23:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah, strange no?
[23:34] <akkosh> hello
[23:34] <gustavo_cm> Hello there! Does aMule 2.3.1-1 in 12.04 crashes with X errors to someone here? Running it from CLI, I get mainly "[xcb] Unknown sequence number while processing queue {newline}[xcb] Most likely this is a multi-threaded client and XInitThreads has not been called". (I'm using Trisquel, which is based off Ubuntu. I'm asking here to know if it is a Trisquel-specific bug.)
[23:37] <daftykins> gustavo_cm: the best you'll get here is that they'll say, if it isn't ubuntu, no support
[23:38] <gustavo_cm> daftykins: thanks. I'm just asking if somebody have heard of that; if not, it's probably my_distro-specific, or even a weird personal bug.
[23:46] <gustavo_cm> More likely a weird personal bug which doesn't happen to my distro's folks. Bye :-)
[23:46] <visor> hello, I have just bought a new computer and it has two internal SSD's, in a RAID array I guess, is there any performance or concern in the BIOS method for the disks? I have IDE/RAID/AHCI modes but I wonder if I should change it, it is raid by default, but have read that AHCI is better, any advice?
[23:48] <Irish_Wolf> hello all, anyone know how I can uninstall tweak?
[23:48] <Irish_Wolf> I tried sudo dpkg -r ubuntu-tweak
[23:48] <cpare> Visor - what do you want out of the double SSD setup, Fault Tolerance
[23:49] <cpare> Visor - SSD in a mirrored set seems like a costly option
[23:49] <Irish_Wolf> better question, is there a way to list installed programs?
[23:49] <bray90820> Are there any official torrents of 13.04
[23:49]  * r00t-err0r AFK
[23:50] <cpare> Visor - I use my SSD for the OS Only, and put my content on a Raid5 thats huge
[23:50] <stercor> If I 'do-release-upgrade,' does it re-partition the hard drive?
[23:52] <wilee-nilee> bray90820, Yes on the ubuntu site
[23:52] <visor> cpare: It is an ultrabook, and it is advertised as a 128gb SSD, however when I turned it on and started looking at the specs I found that there are internally two disks with fdisk
[23:52] <bray90820> i can't seem to find them
[23:53] <wilee-nilee> bray90820, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[23:53] <visor> cpare: So before wiping the disk and install Linux I wanted to make sure the right settings are in the BIOS since I've never used Linux on SSD's, and I read somewhere that using AHCI over RAID in the BIOS setting is better for some TRIM command which makes disk life longer
[23:53] <bray90820> Thank you
[23:54] <visor> but many things are being said on the internet... better ask someone with experience :)
[23:54] <bray90820> so it's above 700MB now?
[23:54] <wilee-nilee> yes
[23:55] <bray90820> so no more cd suppoet
[23:55] <wilee-nilee> bray90820, You can do the net install 30 MB
[23:55] <bray90820> i will just use my flash drive
[23:55] <cpare> visor - I have a 256gb SSD in my XPS M1530, so I can speak with some authority :)
[23:56] <wilee-nilee> self imposed authority, lol
[23:56] <cpare> visor - I am on Ubuntu 13.04 and didn't do any significant tweaks
[23:56] <visor> cpare: sure you can, and that's why I prefer to ask here than read forums, so what mode do you use for your disk?
[23:57] <cpare> visor - but I did verify the BIOS setting your talking about
[23:57] <shomon> how can I get that help again to replace unity? I'm installing xubuntu desktop
[23:57] <shomon> !shomon unityfree
[23:57] <shomon> hmm
[23:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> shomon: I was doing the same, but it did not go too well
[23:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> !unityfree
[23:58] <shomon> lol... oops
[23:58] <shomon> aaah that's it
[23:58] <cpare> visor - My setting was AHCI (I believe) - starting my other laptop up to verify
[23:58] <shomon> !unityfree
[23:58] <wilee-nilee> shomon, removing unity is not a good idea, if you want xubuntu only install the xubuntu download.
[23:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> shomon: it doesnt exist, apparenlty.
[23:58] <wilee-nilee> !nounity
[23:58] <shomon> aah that's it, thanks wilee-nilee
[23:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> shomon: what wilee-nilee said. I tried migrating from unity to xfce and it was not too pretty.
[23:59] <shomon> I did that on debian once and it was well worth it
[23:59] <shomon> anything to get rid of that abomination
[23:59] <visor> cpare: I'd really appreciate if you take the time to check the setting :) I just don't want to do further troubleshooting, if AHCI is better supported on Linux then that'll be the one I set
[23:59] <wilee-nilee> You can have unity and xfce, you just have the unity apps is all.
[23:59] <visor> cpare: thanks