[00:01] <reisio> Frankler: honestly, I think the NSA is just a manifestation of an mplayer process
[00:01] <reisio> I'm pretty sure we all live in the mplayer
[00:01] <euxneks> to answer my own questions: yes, ubuntu uses iptables still, it's probably easier to just use the CLI to do iptables
[00:02] <reisio> everything uses iptables :)
[00:02] <DYSW> thats a bold statement reisio
[00:03] <s1lence> Does anybody have any ideas as to what the mysterious announcement on ubuntu.com means?
[00:03] <euxneks> I bet it's something to do with mobile and desktop interoperability
[00:03] <clue_h> maybe it's to do with ubuntu touch
[00:04] <euxneks> s1lence, though this is a discussion that would best be had in ubuntu-offtopic :)
[00:04] <s1lence> Thank you euxneks
[00:04] <reisio> DYSW: nah
[00:04] <semitones> s1lence: make sure to say hi first if you go there
[00:06] <matelot> my desktop is messed up http://i.imgur.com/72XCLka.jpg  how to reset it ?
[00:06] <MoTec> try a hammer
[00:06] <Mudack> Mudack here with another problem...i'm about ready to switch back to ubuntu.
[00:06] <MoTec> sorry.. wrong channel
[00:07] <lauratika> is there a way to have a different wallpaper on each login account in ubuntu?
[00:07] <Siberian_Tiger> matelot, wow
[00:07] <Siberian_Tiger> What did you do?
[00:07] <reisio> lauratika: yup
[00:08] <vader_> Anybody know how to change Elinks default image viewer from fbi to fbv? fbi does not work in Screen or fbterm :/
[00:08] <clue_h> matelot, looks kind of abstract
[00:08] <Mudack> reisio: I put you in my friends list if that's alright.
[00:08] <lauratika> reisio: do you know how?
[00:08] <reisio> Mudack: :)
[00:09] <reisio> lauratika: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/04/wallch-wallpaper-changer-for-gnome-3.html maybe
[00:09] <matelot> clue_h:  you see how I have 4 "desktop" there…pls help
[00:09] <lauratika> reisio: but most important will you share this info?
[00:09] <reisio> depends on exactly what you want
[00:09] <Mudack> reisio: but unfortunately I have another problem...
[00:09] <reisio> there are a number of ways you could accomplish it
[00:09] <lauratika> reisio: to me?
[00:09] <reisio> lauratika: yes
[00:10] <Mudack> I'll brb
[00:10] <lauratika> well, i want to be able to each user has its own wallppaper on the login page, the link you post is about a third application is there a way via terminal perhaps or a GUI?
[00:11] <reisio> lauratika: hrmm, you want the wallpaper to be unique to a user? Or to actually change the moment you click a name?
[00:11] <reisio> the former is quite simple
[00:11] <Phoenix1969> have I finally reached the ubuntu help channel?
[00:11] <reisio> Phoenix1969: yup
[00:11] <MoTec> No.. I'm sorry.. This is the pre-help channel
[00:11] <lauratika> be unique to a user login page
[00:12] <Mudack> I;m back
[00:12] <semitones> This is only the limbo level of help
[00:12] <MoTec> if your question is deemed actually worth of help you will be fowarded to a secondary channel which will verify your ability to actually receive help.
[00:12] <reisio> lauratika: well the login screen handles more than one user
[00:12] <reisio> lauratika: how do you want to differentiate?
[00:12] <lauratika> MoTec: LOLMA
[00:12] <Phoenix1969> I have the blue windows startscreen where you choose the OS, but the keyboard seems unresponsive & it just counts down from 10 then boots to win8
[00:12] <lauratika> with wallpaper
[00:12] <semitones> there are 7 levels below this one
[00:13] <MoTec> semitones: indeed.. progress has been made!
[00:13] <Mudack> reisio: with all the problems i'm having with Musix should I just switch to Ubuntu?
[00:13] <reisio> lauratika: so you go to the login screen, choose a user & login, then once logged in you see a user-specific wallpaper? That's what you want?
[00:13] <lauratika> Phoenix1969: you install a dual ubuntu/windows?
[00:13] <Phoenix1969> laura, yes
[00:13] <Phoenix1969> on same drive
[00:13] <Mudack> Phoenix1969: What are your Specs?
[00:13] <lauratika> no, just on the login screen, each account has their own walpapper
[00:14] <reisio> Mudack: it's hard to say whether that'd make any difference
[00:14] <Phoenix1969> 500 gb ssd msi gd658d, core173930k
[00:14] <lauratika> Phoenix1969:ubuntu is your second install
[00:14] <reisio> Mudack: what trouble are you having now?
[00:14] <Phoenix1969> yes, 2nd
[00:14] <Mudack> reisio: Chrome and other installations
[00:14] <reisio> Mudack: what about them?
[00:15] <Phoenix1969> aaah, its the amd 8core
[00:15] <subcool> i have a hdd on usb, if i were to use esata plug, would it change the /dev/sd*?
[00:15] <lauratika> Phoenix1969: and is not booting on ubuntu? just windows
[00:15] <lauratika> reisio: no, just on the login screen, each account has their own walpapper
[00:15] <reisio> subcool: it very well may
[00:16] <reisio> subcool: you could give it a LABEL or utilize a UUID, though
[00:16] <reisio> subcool: or setup a udev rule to always keep it at /dev/specificName
[00:16] <Phoenix1969> right, it has the option at start, but not in bios, in some weird blue windows screen, but keyboard no go
[00:16] <Phoenix1969> how to choose ubuntu?
[00:16] <reisio> lauratika: that you see when you click on the name?
[00:17] <lauratika> reisio: i see the same wallpapper i add to login admin account
[00:17] <Mudack> Reisio: My terminal says that it can't fetch any of the packages i'm requesting and the official websites won't give me a easily running file, and I can't find a system Software Center
[00:17] <lauratika> Phoenix1969: what you mean the option at start but not in bios?
[00:17] <reisio> lauratika: do you need to know how to change the wallpaper at all? Or something more complicated?
[00:17] <lauratika> Phoenix1969: do you have the opotion or not to boot into ubuntu?
[00:17] <reisio> Mudack: tell the channel about the error
[00:18] <Mudack> Phoenix1969: Do you mean the boot menu?
[00:18] <Phoenix1969> it does have the option there indeed, i just am unable to physically choose it
[00:18] <lauratika> resisio: change wallpaper at login for each account, not the wallpaper. but at login. are you following me?
[00:18] <Mudack> Reisio: which channel?
[00:18] <reisio> this one
[00:18] <reisio> lauratika: nope
[00:19] <subcool> reisio, well, i base this question off the fact that i have two hdd's on usb in an raid array (raid 0
[00:19] <lauratika> Phoenix1969: and keyboard works on wind 8?
[00:19] <Phoenix1969> yes
[00:19] <lauratika> reisio:is there a way to have a different wallpaper on each login account in ubuntu
[00:19] <reisio> subcool: what for
[00:19] <OerHeks> lauratika, at login, there is not a way to determin what account is on, you are at the point there is not a account active, so how do you want ubuntu to choose?
[00:19] <reisio> lauratika: yes
[00:19] <Mudack> reisio: How do I do that? *pounds fist to chest* I want to serve my community!
[00:19] <subcool> reisio, raid 0 -- now id like to switch one of them to a esata cable
[00:20] <reisio> Mudack: I'm just saying don't put my nick before the message :p more people will be likely to read it
[00:20] <Mudack> Okay
[00:20] <reisio> subcool: yeah that could be complicated :)
[00:20] <reisio> subcool: you probably don't need or want that raid, though, IMO
[00:20] <subcool> yeah, i need them in a raid 0 right now.
[00:20] <subcool> they create a larger drive i need.
[00:20] <zykotick9> !cookie | reisio
[00:20] <lauratika> OerHeks: what you talking about?, simple lighdm can have different wallppapers on the login page, and if you change up and down on different accounts login fields wallpaper can change, how i do that?
[00:21] <Mudack> Hey guys, my system software centre seems to be non-existent, my terminal won't fetch packages, and official program websites give too many options, what do I do?
[00:22] <reisio> subcool: lvm is what you'd want for "a larger drive"
[00:22] <reisio> or unionfs or something like that
[00:22] <reisio> raid is about high availability
[00:22] <reisio> and for most people: lost files :p
[00:22] <subcool> reisio, i dont like lvm very much right now.
[00:22] <Phoenix1969> it should work with the up & down arrow keys, and enter to execute...no?
[00:22] <OerHeks> lauratika, sure, lightdm can have different wallpapers, choose one. but not connected to an account, because an account is not active, so how do you expect ubuntu to know what account is active?
[00:22] <lauratika> Phoenix1969: is this a usb keyboard?
[00:22]  * OerHeks facepalms
[00:22] <reisio> subcool: nobody does :p but it does the job
[00:22] <subcool> lol
[00:22] <Phoenix1969> usb
[00:22] <reisio> lauratika: either lightdm does that or it doesn't, read the lightdm docs
[00:22] <s1lence> Mudack, what kind of error message are you getting from apt-get?
[00:23] <reisio> lauratika: if it doesn't do that, it might be simpler to find another DM that does
[00:23] <Mudack> uriah@localhost:~$ sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install skype
[00:23] <Mudack> Get: 1 http://packages.musix.es lenny Release.gpg [490B]
[00:23] <Mudack> Ign http://packages.musix.es lenny/main Translation-en_GB
[00:23] <Mudack> Get: 2 http://packages.musix.es lenny/updates Release.gpg [490B]
[00:23] <Mudack> Ign http://packages.musix.es lenny/updates/main Translation-en_GB
[00:23] <FloodBot1> Mudack: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:23] <Mudack> Get: 3 http://packages.musix.es lenny Release [85.6kB]
[00:23] <Mudack> Get: 4 http://packages.musix.es lenny/updates Release [3,287B]
[00:23] <Mudack> Ign http://packages.musix.es lenny Release
[00:23] <Jordan_U> subcool: The device name shouldn't matter to Ubuntu's ability to assemble the array, and if you've use static device names in any configuration files you already have an unreliable configuration.
[00:24] <lauratika> OerHeks: it used to do it, i just dont remember how i did it last time, it has to deal with ubuntu tewak perhaps?
[00:24] <zykotick9> Mudack: neither lenny nor musix is ubuntu... just sayin'
[00:24] <Mudack> Gahhh!
[00:24] <s1lence> lol
[00:24] <subcool> jordan, reisio im just curious..
[00:24] <lauratika> Phoenix1969:did you turn on legacy USB on the bios?
[00:24] <Mudack> btw, didn't mean to flood.....FloodBot was nice to me though.....
[00:25] <s1lence> Mudack, I don't really know where to go from here sorry
[00:25] <Phoenix1969> no?
[00:26] <lauratika> Phoenix1969: try that up
[00:26] <reisio> subcool: about?
[00:26] <Mudack> silence: it's fine, the .iso for Ubuntu 13.whatever is loaded and in my downloads, see y'all in a bit!
[00:26] <subcool> reisio, if it was possible without a lot of fuss.
[00:26] <Phoenix1969> k, brb
[00:26] <reisio> subcool: if what was?
[00:26] <subcool> its working fine now- just thought maybe i could tweak it..
[00:26] <quli_> the taskbar in the top and the right disappear all the time, how do I solve this without restarting???
[00:26] <subcool> changing one of them to esata.
[00:27] <reisio> subcool: it is if you know how your raid hardware/software is setup/configured
[00:27] <lauratika> : what you mean disappear
[00:27] <Jordan_U> subcool: Does this array contain your root filesystem?
[00:27] <Phoenix1969> worked like a charm instantly, thank you laura
[00:27] <subcool> its bad enough you have to have esata plugged in from the boot.
[00:27] <subcool> jordan, no
[00:27] <subcool> im using it has a backup while i test something
[00:27] <subcool> its very temporary
[00:27] <lauratika> Phoenix1969: no prob, it's odd because i assume is a new pc right?
[00:27] <quli_> lauratika: you know the bar in the top that says ubuntu desktop
[00:27] <quli_> it just disappears
[00:27] <Jordan_U> subcool: Then I don't expect you'll have any problems switching to esata.
[00:27] <quli_> well actually not only that
[00:28] <lauratika> quili: what ubuntu version you are using?
[00:28] <quli_> the top bar in any program disappears
[00:28] <aaron_> I found out more about my broadcom problem with my install. It works in kernel 3.2 but not with 3.8, anyone have any clues as to how I can make wireless work with 3.8?
[00:28] <quli_> the part that says file, etc
[00:28] <semitones> What command in bash tells you file size?
[00:28] <zykotick9> quli_: restart unity, or better yet, restart light dm.  from a virtual console "sudo service lightdm restart" then log in again [i have no idea how to restart unity].
[00:28] <Jordan_U> semitones: du -h /path/to/file
[00:29] <zykotick9> semitones: "ls -l" or "ls -sh"
[00:29] <quli_> zykotick9: but I have a lot of programs opened
[00:29] <semitones> thanks Jordan_U
[00:29] <quli_> zykotick9: will it affect them?
[00:29] <Jordan_U> semitones: You're welcome.
[00:29] <semitones> zykotick9: I tried ls -l but didn't see sizes. I'll try -sh too
[00:29] <zykotick9> quli_: ya - you need to restart unity - i don't know how, good luck!
[00:29] <lauratika> quil: you also can try unity --reset
[00:30] <quli_> lauratika: can I do that with all the programs opened?
[00:30] <Mudack> reisio: *facepalm* I found the Xarchive application. I'm glad I did one last sweep!!!
[00:30] <lauratika> quil: this will restart unity.
[00:30] <reisio> Mudack: and what do you plan on doing with that? :p
[00:30] <reisio> Mudack: installing applications from tarballs on distros like Ubuntu is usually doing it wrong
[00:31] <Mudack> reisio: at least now I get my programs xD
[00:31] <quli_> lauratika: I don't know what is unity, will it affect opened programs?
[00:32] <irssi-mike> my ctrl alt f keys aren't bringing me to tty
[00:32] <dr_willis> !unity
[00:32] <reisio> if you say so
[00:33] <irssi-mike> meh i'm gonna reboot, maybe it's a glitch.
[00:33] <wN> subcool: whats wrong with lvM?
[00:34] <reisio> he prefers the much more complicated and inappropriate raid :p
[00:34] <wN> <3 lvm
[00:34] <w30> Well, Guys an Gals; I have Unity Tweak Tool, Ubuntu Tweak, and  Tweak Tool installed and I still can't find a way to keep Unity from grabbing the menu bar and sticking it in the top panel. Has any one got any advice? maybe an edit to dconfig?
[00:34] <cuddylier> Anyone know a tutorial on how to use a gre tunnel from cnservers and offer it as e.g. remote protection that e.g. javapipe offers?
[00:35] <Phoenix1969> so, after choosing ubuntu at the startscreen, it came up & said completing installation.... screen went blank...computer still on... 5 mins now...... that normal?
[00:35] <dr_willis> w30:  disable the global menu feature
[00:35] <irssi-mike> yup, it was a glitch.
[00:35] <w30> dr_willis, how? in what? where?
[00:35] <dr_willis> w30:  askubuntu.com or webupd8  blog site has guides
[00:36] <tapper> w30: windows snapping in unity tweat
[00:36] <tapper> *tweak
[00:37] <dr_willis> global menu  moves the menu from the app window into the top panel. its rather easy to disable i revall
[00:37] <semitones> What could cause a file to show up in ls, but not be stat'ed by cp, and not readable by du?
[00:37] <quli_> Starting gtk-window-decorator compiz (decor) - Warn: No default decoration found, placement will not be correct compiz (decor) - Warn: No default decoration found, placement will not be correct
[00:37] <quli_> seems to be working but takes it's long time
[00:37] <tapper> w30: sorry misread your post
[00:38] <devmedoo> help me please
[00:38] <semitones> ls -sh says it's 12K, but du doesn't see it, cp can't copy it, what is going on with that file?
[00:38] <devmedoo> i have a problem
[00:38] <quli_> this unity --reset, do I need to stop it? cause it doesn't give me the prompt back
[00:38] <devmedoo> installing ybyntu
[00:39] <devmedoo> help me plzz?
[00:39] <Phoenix1969> screen still blank after it said "Finishing installation"....  how long typically on a fast system?
[00:39] <devmedoo> i have a problem installing ubuntu
[00:39] <quli_> ybyntu?
[00:39] <dr_willis> quli_:  should have used a  & at the end..  ttr a   ctrl-z  then "bg"  in the twrminal
[00:39] <devmedoo> sorry wrong typed
[00:39] <quli_> ubunty
[00:39] <bazhang> devmedoo, ask an actual question
[00:39] <devmedoo> ok , sorry
[00:40] <quli_> dr_willis: so how do I stop it now?
[00:40] <devmedoo> when i choose ubuntu inside windws and click continue the dvd ejected & windows starts
[00:40] <dr_willis> again...    ctrl-z      then  "bg"    command
[00:41] <bazhang> devmedoo, wubi?
[00:41] <devmedoo> no , dvd
[00:42] <bazhang> !wubi | devmedoo
[00:42] <dr_willis> quli_:  then use the exit   command to close the terminal   NOT the clise button
[00:42] <devmedoo> ubottu , i want ubuntu 13.04 so wubi is no longer supported
[00:43] <Kitt3n> devmedoo, either use a virtual machine or install it
[00:43] <devmedoo> ??
[00:43] <dr_willis> ubuntu inside  windows is wubi... som somthi g is confused here
[00:43] <Kitt3n> devmedoo, if you just want to test Ubuntu, download Virtualbox (it's free) and install Ubuntu inside of it.
[00:44] <dr_willis> unless you ment   alongside..  not inside
[00:44] <devmedoo> no , iwant to use some wifi tools so virtual box i can't use it + ( i have laptop )
[00:44] <bazhang> devmedoo, is this ubuntu or backtrack
[00:44] <Kitt3n> ^
[00:44] <devmedoo> ubuntu
[00:45] <devmedoo> 13.04 from official site
[00:45] <bazhang> devmedoo, inside windows is WUBI
[00:45] <dr_willis> devmedoo: so tell us whats it doing exactly...
[00:45] <Kitt3n> ^
[00:45] <bazhang> Kitt3n, please stop that
[00:46] <vader_> Anybody know how to change Elinks default image viewer from fbi to fbv? fbi does not work in Screen or fbterm :/
[00:46] <arun> need help to mount drives
[00:46] <devmedoo> mmm , when i click install ubuntu from dvd , and choose the wifi , the where " replace windows 7 " " ubuntu inside windows " and the third iforget it
[00:46] <Mudack> Tea is essential, tea is the liquid of the gods, tea is everything, tea is awesome, I love tea
[00:47] <bazhang> !ot | Mudack
[00:47] <lauratika> !ot
[00:47] <dr_willis> devmedoo:  its "alongside"  not "inside"
[00:47] <Mudack> sorry wrong channel
[00:47] <JoshMcCullough> hey whats up
[00:47] <devmedoo> may be....
[00:47] <Kitt3n> Mudack, it hpapens. :)
[00:47] <arun> somebody help me
[00:47] <JoshMcCullough> qq - say i did apt-get install ffmpeg, where would the install location be ?
[00:47] <dr_willis> devmedoo:  so does it actually install!
[00:48] <dr_willis> ?
[00:48] <bazhang> arun, ask a question then
[00:48] <Kitt3n> !ask | arun
[00:48] <devmedoo> nooo , it reboot the laptop and eject dvd
[00:48] <devmedoo> whitout install
[00:48] <dr_willis> JoshMcCullough:  use     'wich ffmpeg'
[00:48] <JoshMcCullough> ty
[00:48] <arun> help me to mount hard drives
[00:48] <dr_willis> which ffmpeg
[00:48] <Kitt3n> devmedoo, how old is the laptop?
[00:48] <bazhang> !fstab | arun
[00:48] <JoshMcCullough> good thing to know, thanks!
[00:49] <devmedoo> hp pavilion g6-1151ex core i5 4gb 500gb
[00:49] <dr_willis> devmedoo:  so it reboots as soon as you select  install alongside windows?
[00:49] <devmedoo> yeb
[00:49] <devmedoo> and click continue
[00:49] <w30> dr_willis, unsettings does the job, thank you very much  Kind Sir
[00:49] <arun> i am new to this, can u tell me detailed info
[00:49] <lauratika> !help | lauratika
[00:50] <bazhang> arun, read the links above
[00:50] <bazhang> lauratika, /msg ubottu
[00:50] <lauratika> gparted | lauratika
[00:50] <dr_willis> w30: you dont need any of those tweak tooks.. its setable on a per app basis if you want to use the shell
[00:50] <w30> gotta log out to apply settings.....
[00:50] <bazhang> lauratika, please dont do that
[00:50] <lauratika> !gparted | lauratika
[00:50] <devmedoo> mr willis?
[00:51] <bazhang> !msgthebot | lauratika
[00:51] <dr_willis> devmedoo: if the installer is crashing. id redownload and verify the iso and remake rhe boot usb
[00:51] <matelot> 12.04 w/ Dual monitor (TwinView) — is it possible to have monitors display 2 workspaces ?
[00:51] <devmedoo> i made the boot from dvd
[00:52] <bazhang> !md5 | devmedoo
[00:52] <dr_willis> matelot:  in unity  nit really
[00:52] <Kitt3n> devmedoo, verify that the iso isn't corrupt, and burn it to another DVD
[00:52] <lauratika> bazhang: just checking the ! thingy...
[00:52] <dr_willis> not really
[00:52] <bazhang> lauratika, check it in /msg
[00:52] <devmedoo> iso to dvd is same bytes so may be the download
[00:53] <semitones> I have a question for ubuntu's crack team of help experts: What could cause ls to stat a file, but stat cannot stat it?
[00:53] <Kitt3n> devmedoo, it's always a good idea to burn stuff to DVDs slowly too, if you're using a program that you can choose the burning speed with.
[00:53] <devmedoo> ubuntu 64-bit 13.04 = "(823,132,160 bytes)"
[00:54] <devmedoo> i made it x6!
[00:54] <Kitt3n> !md5 | devmedoo
[00:55] <clue_h> semitones, when you have no permissions at all lol
[00:55] <clue_h> in the file
[00:55] <devmedoo> kitt3n , i'll see
[00:55] <semitones> clue_h: hmm, but it has rw - - permissions
[00:56] <dr_willis> semitones: id fsck the filesystem  just to verify the fs is sane
[00:57] <semitones> d'oh. ok. how do you do that on restart again.
[00:57] <devmedoo> md5=8D72E2DB7E72E13813731EAB37A14D26
[00:58] <Kitt3n> devmedoo, the ISO is correct, the DVD is faulty
[00:58] <devmedoo> md5=8D72E2DB7E72E13813731EAB37A14D26 in iso , dvd is multi file ( extracted
[00:58] <devmedoo> why?
[00:58] <Kitt3n> devmedoo, what program did you use to burn the DVD?
[00:58] <devmedoo> ashmpoo studio
[00:59] <devmedoo> ashampoo
[01:00] <Kitt3n> devmedoo, the easiest solution would be to use a USB stick instead of DVDs, but try the burner included in Windows to burn the iso to a new DVD
[01:02] <devmedoo> kitt3n?
[01:02] <devmedoo> here?
[01:02] <apleersdf> I have an sd card I'm trying to reformat, it wont allow me to delete any files on it, saying its read only, I will not allow me to unmount disk, therefore unable to format it or do anything else
[01:02] <apleersdf> its pretty much locked up
[01:02] <apleersdf> I even logged in as root, and still can not get it to unmount or anything
[01:02] <Kitt3n> devmedoo, yes, yes, I am here
[01:02] <apleersdf> any ideas on what to do?
[01:03] <dr_willis> apleersdf:  use  dd to zero it out  then repartion it
[01:03] <apleersdf> whats the command?
[01:03] <dr_willis> ive seed sd cards  fail and go  read only
[01:04] <devmedoo> kitt3n
[01:04] <devmedoo> here?
[01:04] <Kitt3n> apleersdf, there might be a locking mechanism on the SD card itself too
[01:04] <Kitt3n> devmedoo, YES, I am here! What is it?
[01:04] <dr_willis> or use  fdisk or gparted to repartion it
[01:04] <apleersdf> Kitt3n: ? like what?
[01:04] <apleersdf> I've used this card before, but now I'm just trying to reformat it
[01:05] <Kitt3n> apleersdf, a little plastic piece that you can move up and down or something.
[01:05] <apleersdf> I already checked that Kitt3n, it was the first thing I checked, and checked it a few time after that making sure that isn't the problem
[01:05] <dr_willis> used it befor does not prove its not got hw issues now..    could be a switch on it also
[01:05] <dr_willis> seen those go bad
[01:07] <dr_willis> plug it in.. watch dmesg output to tell what sd#  the device is.. then try formating it via the cli
[01:07] <devmedoo> kitt3n?
[01:07] <devmedoo> here?
[01:07] <Kitt3n> devmedoo, what is it? -_-
[01:07] <apleersdf> The card is not seen in gparted
[01:08] <devmedoo> i lost connection since i said ashampoo burning studio
[01:08] <apleersdf> it is seened in disk ulity, but now when I plug in the card, it isn't bringing up the folder like normal
[01:08] <Kitt3n> devmedoo, right, well, the easiest solution is to use a USB stick instead of DVDs, but you could try burn a new DVD with Windows' built-in image burner
[01:08] <dr_willis> if the filesystem is currupted that would make sense
[01:08] <dr_willis> if gparted does not see the devix
[01:09] <dr_willis> device.. thats very weird
[01:09] <apleersdf> in disk ulity, its not  mounting when plugged in the system anymore (which is odd) cause it would, when I try to mount it in disk ulity, it sais Deamon is inhibited
[01:09] <apleersdf> it wont let me do anything, gparted doesn't see it
[01:09] <devmedoo> how do you know that the dvd is corrupt?
[01:09] <dr_willis> fallback to the cli to see.what the system is seeing.. not the gui tools
[01:10] <Kitt3n> devmedoo, personal experience, DVDs can easily break ...
[01:10] <Kitt3n> devmedoo, virtually, that is.
[01:10] <devmedoo> mmm , ok , is there thing like virtual dvd or something?
[01:10] <dr_willis> apleersdf:  if the fs is currupted.. it will refuse to mount it
[01:11] <devmedoo> because my usb had win 8 recovery :) :)
[01:11] <dr_willis> apleersdf:  try mounting it by hand. look for error mesages when mounting
[01:12] <louisdk> hi
[01:12] <apleersdf> can't find it
[01:12] <apleersdf> it says
[01:12] <dr_willis> how.are you looking for it!
[01:12] <dr_willis> ?
[01:12] <apleersdf> mount /dev/sde1
[01:13] <apleersdf> "can't find /dev/sde1" when I "mount /dev/sde1"
[01:13] <devmedoo> can i install ubuntu 13.04 with deamon tools??
[01:13] <dr_willis> thats an incomplete mount command. ubless you got a fstab entry for it
[01:13] <dr_willis> !mount
[01:14] <louisdk> If I've Ubuntu 10.04 desktop installed on a machine which is now EOL on the desktop side what'll happen? I assume that I'll not get updates for the desktop packages, but will something be removed from the repo?
[01:14] <dr_willis> devmedoo:  no
[01:14] <devmedoo> is any alternative to usb and burn dvd?
[01:14] <dr_willis> apleersdf:   use    sudo blkid   to see what  devices are.seen
[01:14] <dr_willis> !install
[01:15] <Kitt3n> louisdk, you need to update to a newer version of Ubuntu to get support at all
[01:15] <apleersdf> seems gparted decided to see the device and allow it to format
[01:15] <dr_willis> !netinstall
[01:15] <apleersdf> thanks for the help
[01:15] <devmedoo> is any alternative to usb and burn dvd?
[01:15] <devmedoo> is any alternative to usb and burn dvd?
[01:16] <vnwilman> !pxe
[01:16] <devmedoo> is any alternative to usb and burn dvd?
[01:16] <Kitt3n> !netinstall | devmedoo
[01:17] <arun> somebody help me to mount hard drives
[01:17] <louisdk> kitt3n: Some core packages will still be upgraded I guess? The server edition uses same repos?
[01:17] <Kitt3n> louisdk, EOL means EOL, NO updates.
[01:17] <dr_willis> read the urls the bot  gave devmedoo ?
[01:17] <arun> somebody help me to mount drives
[01:17] <dr_willis> !mount | arun
[01:17] <devmedoo> ok dr_willis
[01:19] <dr_willis> devmedoo:  you did verify the  md5 sum of the iso file? and the burnt dvd?
[01:19] <arun> i can access all of my hard drives, do i need mount anything?
[01:20] <Kitt3n> arun, if you can access all your hard drives, you don't need to mount anything?
[01:20] <dr_willis> they are mounted.. if you canaccess thrm
[01:20] <devmedoo> the burnt dvd is muli-files ( extracted )
[01:20] <dr_willis> devmedoo:  thats a meaningless statement to me...
[01:20] <arun> can u help me on permissions of my hard drive to another user
[01:21] <dr_willis> ta md5sum is a checksum  you compare to a known good value.. to Prove the data is correct
[01:21] <dr_willis> arun and what fs is the hard drive using?
[01:21] <theshark0001> I'm using optware packages.  I would like to setup a prv web gui (password protected) for family to upload photographs or even video.  What programs do you recommend?
[01:21] <Kitt3n> devmedoo, click on the iso file and use the 'Windows Disc Image Burner' and burn the ISO to a /NEW/ DVD and try again
[01:21] <arun> i guess ntfs
[01:21] <arun> how to check that
[01:22] <dr_willis> arun look and verify that....  dont guess.. then if it IS ntfs... check the ntfs-3g docs on making a fstab entry for the device with the  right options..  or just try installing and running the ntfs-config tool ;)
[01:22] <devmedoo> sorry  ( i'm arabian ) , the dvd have files and folders not an iso
[01:22] <dr_willis> !ntfs-3g
[01:23] <dr_willis> devmedoo:  omce you burn the ISO to the dvd.. you would see files on the dvd.. not a single huge iso file.
[01:23] <devmedoo> ya , so i can't see the md5
[01:23] <arun> how to verify that
[01:23] <Psil0cybin> Hey guys can someone help me I recently updated the kernal to 3.2.0-49-generic-pae and im having problems, Now after the update I sometimes cannot boot into the GUI and instead am given a text console, and its only solved with a restart
[01:23] <dr_willis> devmedoo:  you use a TOOL to calculate the md5sum.. its Not a file on the dvd/iso you look at..
[01:24] <dr_willis> !md5 | devmedoo
[01:24] <Psil0cybin> how can I fix this because it only started happening with the new update...and prior to the update it worked perfectly fine
[01:24] <devmedoo> i use checksum
[01:24] <arun> how to verify the file system
[01:24] <dr_willis> arun see what sudo parted -l   says about the device
[01:24] <dr_willis> or 'sudo blkid'
[01:25] <devmedoo> i use checksum calculator
[01:25] <devmedoo> i use checksum calculator
[01:25] <dr_willis> so did the sum match the one at the downloads page?
[01:26] <w30> dr_willis, "sudo apt-get remove indicator-appmenu" get the menus back on the application's own window
[01:26] <Deece> Does anyone know how to get rsyslog to show facilities/levels by name instead of number?
[01:26] <devmedoo> the sum ? , i can't make a group files with same mdf
[01:26] <devmedoo> md5^
[01:26]  * junktext is eating chicken tikka masala
[01:27] <Deece> I've written a format string for ActionFileDefaultTemplate, but i can only find %syslogpriority% %syslogfacility% as template options
[01:27] <devmedoo> ...............
[01:27] <devmedoo> .............
[01:27] <FloodBot1> devmedoo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:27] <w30> dr_willis, It's wonderful  to have a resource like askubuntu.com thanks for the tip
[01:28] <devmedoo> kitt3n or dr_willis ??
[01:29] <dr_willis> devmedoo:  did you even read the url on md5suming ?
[01:29] <dr_willis> w30:  you can disable the global menu on a per app basis.. if you wanted to
[01:30] <devmedoo> ya , i downloaded checksum calculator
[01:30] <devmedoo> ...w8ing
[01:31] <bazhang> !helpme | devmedoo
[01:31] <devmedoo> ok ....
[01:32] <dr_willis> devmedoo:  and did the sum match the sum given in the md5sum listing file from the ubuntu download web site?
[01:32] <bazhang> !hashes | devmedoo
[01:32] <dr_willis> and did the sum of the DVD disk match the sum of the ISO file ??
[01:32] <dr_willis> i alwyas use torrents.  so i rarely get a bad download.
[01:33] <netlar> Hi all
[01:33] <Pandee> netlar: hello
[01:33] <devmedoo> i don't know how to make 2 file to 1 md5 !!!
[01:34] <netlar> Pandee: Were you the one helping me yesterday?
[01:34] <dr_willis> devmedoo:  i have no idea what you mean by that...
[01:34] <dr_willis> you calcullate the sum on file 1.. look at it.. then compare it to the sum listed in the file..
[01:34] <Pandee> netlar: no i don't believe so
[01:35] <devmedoo> i mean that the program give my one md5 for the file , so each file in dvd have md5
[01:35] <dr_willis> I dont use that app.. so no idea of its features.
[01:35] <dr_willis> you want to sum the whatever.iso file.. dont mount it.
[01:35] <bazhang> devmedoo, you dont extract the iso.
[01:36] <netlar> Should of remembered his handle
[01:36] <bazhang> devmedoo, you burn the iso to a usb stick or dvd, not extract
[01:36] <dr_willis> windows apps treating .iso files as an archive... always lovely.. when its totally wrong.
[01:37] <Random833> i tihnk with vista and later you can right click to burn properly
[01:37] <dr_willis> i just have some windows app that puts  'md5sum' on the context meni i recall.
[01:38] <dr_willis> i always ise infrarecorder to burn the isos   but not used that in ages.
[01:38] <devmedoo_> i use checksum
[01:38] <devmedoo_> the iso is corrrect md5
[01:38] <dr_willis> many of the isu burning apps can also calculate the md5sum
[01:38] <devmedoo_> the dvd and iso is same bytes
[01:38] <dr_willis> same bytes does NOT mean its the same sum.
[01:38] <bazhang> devmedoo_, thats not the problem. the problem is you extracted the files from the iso
[01:39] <devmedoo_> bazhang : i didn't , i made dvd by iso with ashampoo burning studio
[01:39] <bazhang> devmedoo_, what software did you use to burn to dvd
[01:39] <dr_willis> reburn using some nice simple tool like infrarecorder, or imgburn , or some other known al.
[01:39] <dr_willis> app.
[01:40] <dr_willis> !burn
[01:40] <devmedoo_> infrarecorder  mmmmm , i'll try
[01:40] <bazhang> devmedoo_, you md5 the iso BEFORE you burn to dvd
[01:40] <devmedoo_> the md5 = 8D72E2DB7E72E13813731EAB37A14D26
[01:40] <bazhang> devmedoo_, not the extracted files , but the iso
[01:41] <vader_>  /disconnect
[01:42] <devmedoo_> i didn't understand you
[01:43] <dr_willis> i think infrarecorder has a 'md5sum' item when you select an iso.. you can caompare to the one given in the file  at the url mentioned above
[01:44] <devmedoo_> dr_willis i already checked and it's correct!!!
[01:45] <devmedoo_> ..................................
[01:45] <bazhang> devmedoo_, stop that
[01:45] <dr_willis> devmedoo_:   then use infrarecorder to burn it to dvd at the slowest speed you can and have it verify the burn
[01:46] <devmedoo_> ok
[01:47] <devmedoo_> http://sourceforge.net/projects/infrarecorder/?
[01:47] <devmedoo_> ??
[01:47] <devmedoo_> http://sourceforge.net/projects/infrarecorder/
[01:49] <devmedoo_> is there any prog make virtual dvd?
[01:49] <Ycarene> Anybody use ushare?
[01:49] <dr_willis> why do you even think you need a virtual dvd devmedoo_ ?
[01:50] <dr_willis> ushare worked well for me the little i used it Ycarene
[01:53] <subcool> whats the attribute to view ls -l  with the files in gigs or megs
[01:53] <devmedoo_> dr_willis : it's 4 am here in egypt :) , how can i buy a blank dvd hhhhhh ^_^
[01:53] <DWSR> subcool: -h
[01:53] <subcool> thanks
[01:54] <dr_willis> devmedoo_:  not my problem..  i always use usb flash drives.
[01:54] <DWSR> anyone know how to use sshfs to mount a folder so that it is writable by all users on the system, but the permissions are translated to a single user on the remote side?
[01:54] <devmedoo_> dr_willis : i didn't say that is your problem ....
[01:56] <taek> Hi folks, I seem to have an issue that, when my system boots up, eth0 doesn't connect until a user is logged in, is there away to make it connect at boot?
[01:56] <taek> Distro 12.04
[01:56] <varunendra> devmedoo_, what is it that you want.
[01:56] <devmedoo_> just testing
[01:57] <dr_willis> taek:  eth0 is a wired or wireless connection?
[01:57] <taek> Wired.
[01:57] <dr_willis> thats.. very weird taek ..
[01:57] <taek> Tell me about it, I have OwnCloud running and I can't connect until after a user is logged in
[01:57] <dr_willis_> hi , test test.... , i'm not mr_willis
[01:57] <dr_willis> taek:  are you using encrypted homes? or encrypted /
[01:58] <taek> Btw, this system was distro-upgraded from 10.4.4
[01:58] <taek> I don't believe so.
[01:58] <taek> I don't recall setting it up in that manner initially.
[01:58] <dr_willis> taek:  as a dirty 'trick' you could try restarting the networking, or using  'ifup eth0' in /etc/rc.local
[01:59] <dr_willis> its possible networking is trying to come up and failing for some reason, then the user login some how retriggers it to try again
[01:59] <dr_willis> im not sure what logs would even be logging that.
[02:00] <taek> well I just added the ifup eth0
[02:00] <taek> abouve Exit 0
[02:00] <jrib> taek: if you log in at virtual console, does your network become "fixed"?  Also, I would urge you to actually check up on the encryption.  Often times in this channel, "believing" and "recalling" lead troubleshooters down the wrong path ;)
[02:00] <dr_willis_> taek: your problem is so miss , get a support from one other than me....
[02:00] <dr_willis> might want to do a ifdown eth0   ; sleep 20 ;  ifup eth0   or similer.
[02:00] <taek> Virtual Console?
[02:00] <taek> I dunno, I use Desktop.
[02:01] <dr_willis> console = alt-ctrl-f1 through f6
[02:01] <jrib> taek: yes, this is for troubleshooting purposes.  I'm asking you to try that.
[02:01] <DWSR> (comparatively speaking)
[02:01] <DWSR> anyone know how to use sshfs to mount a folder so that it is writable by all users on the system, but the permissions are translated to a single user on the remote side?
[02:02] <dr_willis_> jrib: don't make yourself like a pro ....
[02:02] <dr_willis> DWSR:  im thinking that would be a neat trick. :) and a possible security nightmare...     since sshfs uses the fuse system.. the fusermount command may have options to allow that.
[02:02] <taek> hmm should I logout of unity?
[02:03] <jrib> taek: you should place your system in its "broken" state.  Whatever that means (probably reboot).  And then log in through a virtual console.
[02:03] <jrib> dr_willis: :x
[02:03] <taek> hmm okay
[02:03] <taek> i'll be back then
[02:04] <jrib> taek: if your system remains "broken" after log in at virtual console, check if eth0 is up
[02:04] <taek> will do
[02:04] <dr_willis> if its just opencloud failing to startup.. having an encvrypted home could be   a potential issue..
[02:04] <taek> brb
[02:04] <jrib> taek: I'm using "broken" to mean "can't connect to opencloud"
[02:04] <dr_willis_> to hell
[02:04] <dr_willis> wow.. trolls using the  freenode web chat to spam us.. how lovely.
[02:04] <azazel91> is there a irc that alerts member logins
[02:04] <jrib> dr_willis_: right, if I had to bet I would bet on your initial guess about encrypted homes
[02:05] <dr_willis_> hhhhh , i like joking hhhh
[02:05] <mr_willis> ya willis my too
[02:06] <dr_willis> guess you could set up opencloud to share some unencrypted filesystem as a test also. ;) that way you can verifyu it is working.
[02:07] <cuddylier> Anyone know how to see the redirects I have on the program 'redir'?
[02:07] <^jirb> ok , i'll do it tommorw
[02:08] <taek> screens to be working with the rc.local
[02:08] <taek> seems*
[02:09] <taek> using ptty1 right now
[02:09] <mr_willis> ok good
[02:09] <dr_willis> its possible openmcloud is trying to start befor networking is started. or its waiting for networking to start..
[02:09] <taek> Owncloud*
[02:10] <taek> Owncloud runs in apache2.
[02:10] <dr_willis> im lazy and just use dropbox and box.net and ubuntu one ;)
[02:10] <mr_willis> ok good you know
[02:10] <mr_willis_> say welcome to ddos
[02:10] <^jirb> say welcome to ddos
[02:10] <mr_willis> say welcome to ddos
[02:10] <dr_willis_> say welcome to ddos
[02:10] <dr_willis> lame trolls are lame.
[02:11] <IdleOne> Please get you clones out
[02:11] <bazhang> there's only ONE Dr.
[02:11] <taek> I have a VPS - so I am acoustom to some of the workings. But in a server enviornment eth0 just works without login.
[02:11] <C130RG> /server irc.byroe.net
[02:11] <wilee-nilee> That's the truth
[02:11] <dr_willis> 'one ban to ban them alll!'  ;P
[02:12] <HACKED> NO IDLEONE
[02:12] <mr_willis_> NO IDLEONE
[02:12] <^jirb> NO IDLEONE
[02:12] <dr_willis_> NO IDLEONE
[02:12] <taek> Sweet, Thanks for the quick fix mr_willis
[02:12] <dr_willis> that seems weird that the vps is acting that way.
[02:12] <taek> Now I can turn this weak/bad boy headless
[02:12] <dr_willis_> hhhh , no thanks for hacks
[02:12] <taek> This isn't a VPS, this is a full blown desktop
[02:12] <dr_willis> or is this not a VPS?
[02:12] <taek> I am just stating, I have a VPS without issues
[02:13] <dr_willis> thatw even weirder then
[02:13] <dr_willis_> it's a piece of shit
[02:13] <taek> Except..
[02:13] <taek> VPS can't update anylonger.
[02:13] <taek> But that will be fixed.
[02:13] <^jirb> really
[02:13] <taek> Distro isn't supported any longer, so an upgrade will be in order for sat or sun.
[02:13] <savagejen> When I run dmesg, it's filled with errors about unknown keycode e03e. They seem to be happening multiple times per second. Not sure what the best course of action is. One blog post I read said I should map the keycode to null.
[02:14] <taek> Yeah, Ubuntu <IP_ADDRESS> LTS has been phased out.
[02:14] <dr_willis> savagejen:  or edit  /etc/sysconf.cfg (i think) to not be as verbose in its logging. :)
[02:14] <taek> Or figure out what the key is that is causing it, and remap it
[02:14] <savagejen> dr_willis, I'm  less concerned about the logging and more concerned about the cause :)
[02:15] <dr_willis> ive had dmesg get flooded by  broken hardware befor. (a web cam in my case)
[02:15] <dr_willis> not seen a keyvode flood..
[02:15] <savagejen> I don't think it's a key, but I am running on a touch screen laptop, and I have to wonder if it's related to this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1099289
[02:15] <dr_willis> I bet its that pesky 'anykey' that no one can ever find!
[02:16] <taek> Well, it seems to me that either the key got mapped to Null, the keyboard selected setting is incorrect, or the keyboard is just broken.
[02:16] <savagejen> ubottu, oh, is the problem confirmed to be my touch screen already?
[02:16] <savagejen> Keyboard appears to fully function. This is a brand new Lenovo Yoga.
[02:17] <taek> Any other input device besides screen and keyboard?
[02:17]  * dr_willis read that as a 'Yoda' and envisioned a Funny green laptop
[02:17] <savagejen> I am using a usb wifi nic
[02:17] <Hacked2> Here Is The Checkout Baby!!
[02:17] <savagejen> I disabled the onboard nic in the bios
[02:17] <savagejen> and there's a touch pad mouse
[02:17] <taek> Is the trouch screen doing anything it shouldn't?
[02:18] <savagejen> taek there's the known bug 1099289
[02:18] <dr_willis> are you even using the touchscreen?
[02:18] <savagejen> I was!
[02:18] <cuddylier> Anyone know how to list the redirects I have made using the program 'redir'?
[02:18] <savagejen> but it's flaky
[02:18] <dr_willis> ;)  you touched it in  a bad way and it got mad.
[02:18] <taek> I wasn't asking about the bug, I was asking about your usage of the touch screen.
[02:18] <savagejen> so if I transition the laptop into a tablet to read kindle books, I noticed sometimes the touch screen doesn't respond when I want to turn the page
[02:19] <dr_willis> cuddylier:  what do you mean by 'redirects'  ?
[02:19] <savagejen> so it's annoying that Ii have to turn it over to press the mouse instead
[02:19] <taek> Then maybe you have prior said mentionted bug.
[02:19] <savagejen> yes, I have experienced that bug
[02:19] <cuddylier> dr_willis It's a program which means you can redirect traffic from an IP to another IP on another server box
[02:19] <savagejen> but I am unsure it's related to the message in dmesg
[02:19] <cuddylier> apt-get install redir
[02:20] <boethiah> hello there. is there a developers channle?
[02:20] <cuddylier> But I can't find much documentation on it, apart from obviously typing 'redir' in SSH which doesn't help much
[02:20] <dr_willis> cuddylier:  sounds like a ssh tunnle. ;) but i rarely need such things...   at leat not lately
[02:20] <cuddylier> Yeah, it's a tunneling thing
[02:20] <taek> Does the touch screen work properly in "normal laptop" setup vrs "tablet" setup ?
[02:20] <dr_willis> redir --help  ? ;)
[02:20] <savagejen> taek, most of the time
[02:20] <dr_willis> man redir  ?
[02:21] <taek> I am wondering if there's an issue with ubuntu not reading the switch state of the screen
[02:21] <savagejen> taek, there's currently no recognition by the laptop of what position the screen is in, which is something I hope to be able to find a way to configure at some point
[02:21] <dr_willis> im so used to reading books on my kindle paperwhite.. reading them on a full laptop  would seem  weird.
[02:21] <savagejen> er, Ubuntu doesn't seem to read the accelerometer I think
[02:21] <cuddylier> dr_willis: http://pastebin.com/aXqkjer2
[02:21] <taek> That might be where you're getting an the errors from?.
[02:22] <savagejen> oh, interesting
[02:22] <taek> the laptop might be sending it as a keypress or some such.
[02:22] <taek> I don't know personally, but just throwing  thoughts out.
[02:23] <savagejen> I guess, with the ubuntu tablet coming out, I was just hoping ubuntu would have full support of the touch screen interfaces in all of these fancy new ultrabooks
[02:23] <savagejen> maybe with a bit of configuration
[02:23] <taek> I figured they would of solved that issue with the invention of Unity.
[02:23] <taek> But different hardwares do things differently
[02:23] <savagejen> yeah
[02:24] <wilee-nilee> taek, Since you just guessing what about gobl;ins.
[02:24] <savagejen> although it looks like a bunch of us Ubuntu users have Lenovo Yogas now
[02:24] <taek> Goblins are always outside my window!! I am affraind to go out there!
[02:24] <wilee-nilee> taek, Somehow I believe that.
[02:24] <dr_willis> http://linux.die.net/man/1/redir       ii would think it may not have such options, just logging options, since it seems to be designed to work as a service
[02:24] <taek> :D
[02:25] <taek> anyhow, let me get back into desktop mode and out of ptty1
[02:25] <savagejen> just use netcat :D
[02:25] <savagejen> pipe netcat to netcat
[02:25] <cuddylier> dr_willis yeah, just wonder how I'm meant to remove redirects or even see a list lol
[02:26] <dr_willis> cuddylier:  ;)   it was hard even finding a google hit for docs.. the term 'redir' is a  bit vague
[02:26] <cuddylier> Yeah lol
[02:26] <cuddylier> Such a good program and exactly what I needed but little docs :(
[02:26] <dr_willis> 'use the wource luke!' ;)
[02:26] <dr_willis> source
[02:26] <taek> That was weird.
[02:27] <taek> I got redirected to another channel.
[02:27] <dr_willis> Hmm.. i really really have to wonder how durable that Lenovo Yoga Hinge that does all the swiveling is....
[02:27] <Taek> Hopefully not made from plastic
[02:28] <dr_willis> ive had to many normal laptop hinges break over the years..
[02:28] <Wulframn> I played with a display model and it was pretty durable. It stood up to being a display model, after all. =P
[02:28] <Taek> I must say, I really dislike Unity.
[02:28] <Taek> :-(
[02:28] <dr_willis> at least its not an emachine brand. ;)
[02:28] <dr_willis> Unity works well for me.
[02:28] <Taek> Have to doo too much to get to what you want
[02:29] <Wulframn> I dislike Unity, too. I haven't used it on a touchscreen, though, so I can't give it a fair shake.
[02:29] <dr_willis> then again i ju,p around so many differnt OS's and desktops on a weekly basis  (or daily basis) it dosent matter what desktop im using
[02:29] <Taek> Well, I attempted to stay with Unbutu 10.04.4 as long as I can
[02:29] <Taek> They phased it out.
[02:30] <Taek> There's MATE but.. not developed enough for my usage.
[02:30] <dr_willis> the latest gnome-shell has an offical gnome-2 type mode i belive.. ive not tried it.
[02:30] <Wulframn> I'm using xfce
[02:30] <dr_willis> I can see mate and cinnimon vananishing in the near future
[02:30] <Taek> Problem with MATE is.. There don't have enough devs for how many distros they are working on
[02:31] <dr_willis> manpower is always the  limiting factor these days it seems
[02:32] <Taek> Well, they have maybe one dedicated dev per OS/Distro, and a few floaters..
[02:32] <Taek> As awesome as it would be for them to stay up todate with the distros changes, they arn't able to.
[02:32] <dr_willis> its really amazing how few devs are responsible for some of the major apps, and  tools out there.
[02:33] <Taek> hmm, I wonder if I can install irssi-scripts
[02:33] <dr_willis> most of the webcam drivers i hear are done by like a small group of people. 2-3?    with one guy doing most of them
[02:33] <Taek> and use them while irssi is running.
[02:33] <dr_willis> Ive swithed over to weechat in stead of irssi these days. ;)
[02:33] <qin> Taek: You can just download them to #/.irssi
[02:34] <Taek> ~/.irssi...
[02:34] <qin> yup
[02:34] <qin> to lazy to shift
[02:34] <Taek> hahaha
[02:35] <dr_willis> bbl.
[02:35] <Taek> Nice
[02:35] <Taek> nicklist screen
[02:35] <Taek> works
[02:35] <Taek> :D
[02:35] <Taek> too used to mirc.
[02:36] <qin> Taek: how it looks like with 15 hundreds of bots in channel?
[02:36] <Taek> Now to get ubuntu running on my linksys router!
[02:36] <Taek> Looks fine.
[02:37] <qin> Taek: http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Linksys
[02:37] <Taek> It amazes me how developers can cram a linux distro onto a 8MB flash drive with everything they need to run the router.
[02:37] <Taek> qin I already have DD-WRT on my linksys
[02:38] <gabash> #Beginner
[02:38] <Taek> but it's foobar! I may have to reflash it
[02:38] <qin> Taek: why ubuntu would be better?
[02:38] <Taek> Why Not, Ubuntu server, ubuntu Desktop, Ubuntu Router, Ubuntu Laptop, Ubuntu cellphone, ubuntu netbook, ubuntu tablet
[02:38] <qin> gabash: You do not need # here..
[02:38] <Taek> Ubuntu kids?!
[02:39] <qin> Taek: Yeah, pity that ubuntu do not cook and stuff.
[02:39] <Taek> get a smart programmer and engineering tech to build a system of robots ran on ubuntu.. sure you could
[02:40] <Taek> I mean, I have a friend who's house is basically ran on ubuntu
[02:40] <Taek> controls the light, they reprogrammed their fridge. alarm system, garage.
[02:40] <Taek> out door water sprinkler system
[02:41] <Taek> Also programmed with android/iOS to remote control it
[02:41] <Taek> Pretty nifty stuff.
[02:42] <Taek> Too bad he wouldn't wouldn't release the src !
[02:42] <nimdAHK_> anyone here use teamviewer?
[02:42] <Taek> I use.
[02:42] <nimdAHK_> my "setup offline access" option is missing
[02:42] <Taek> What good is using teamviewer in offline access mode?
[02:42] <nimdAHK_> s/offline/unattended
[02:43] <nimdAHK_> it's supposed to be under "connection"
[02:43] <soni1877> how to get netgear g54 wireless adapter working on ubuntu 64bit?
[02:43] <nimdAHK_> but the option is just not present, Taek
[02:43] <Taek> which version?
[02:43] <nimdAHK_> 8
[02:44] <Taek> Installed or running as "run" mode?
[02:44] <soni1877> it is connecting properly but internet speed drops to almost zero frequently
[02:44] <nimdAHK_> installed
[02:44] <nimdAHK_> with the daemon on
[02:44] <Taek> let me install and atake a look
[02:44] <Taek> I am normally using windows
[02:45] <nimdAHK_> Taek: http://i.imgur.com/2FHVn7r.png
[02:46] <nimdAHK_> (yes, I refreshed the password...)
[02:46] <varunendra> soni1877, please show us pastebin link of "lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net"
[02:46] <dr_willis> soni1877:  check what chipset and module its using and check askubuntu.com  there may be some known isdues
[02:48] <soni1877> http://pastebin.com/KbWFw2GP
[02:49] <Taek> Extras -> Options -> Advance -> Advance Networking Settings (TeamViewer server) Configure
[02:49] <Taek> should do the trick for you
[02:50] <nimdAHK_> so I can't add it to my account?
[02:50] <nimdAHK_> like I did with all my other machines?
[02:50] <Taek> I assume after you cofigure it, you should beable to do so
[02:51] <Taek> also note, since TeamViewer for (LOinux) runs in Wine - It might not actually have the ability to do it.
[02:52] <Taek> Linux*
[02:52] <nimdAHK_> Yeah I noticed the bundled wine
[02:53] <nimdAHK_> it's just interesting that the option is completely removed without a mention on the internet
[02:54] <Taek> that's what happens when a big company like teamviewer decide to go the lazy route and not actually make a linux specific software
[02:54] <Taek> instead just use windows emulation
[02:55] <soni1877> varunendra: http://pastebin.com/KbWFw2GP
[02:55] <Taek> Honestly I am happy TeamViewer even works on linux through wine, the horrors you have to go through to get alot apps to run on it period is bad enough.
[02:56] <Psil0cybin> Hey guys can someone help me I recently updated my computure through the update manager, and now when i try and boot into ubuntu i sometimes get a blackscreen or i get booted into the text only console, and cannot access the GUI. This only started happening after the update....and i have to restarted 3 or 5 times to get into the GUI
[02:56] <Psil0cybin> how can i diagnose and fix this error
[02:56] <Psil0cybin> or do i keep using the older kernal?
[02:56] <Taek> Just my guess, but have you updated the video driver?
[02:57] <Psil0cybin> I might have i updated everything it wanted to update
[02:57] <Psil0cybin> Cederview i think is the driver that got updated
[02:57] <Psil0cybin> but i tried reinstalling it, it worked for a few boots and now its doing it again
[02:57] <Taek> Never heard of cederview.
[02:57] <Psil0cybin> its for an acer aspire one
[02:58] <Psil0cybin> one second let me go to the package manager
[02:58] <Psil0cybin> and tell u exatly
[02:58] <Taek> Intel Atom Processor?
[02:58] <Psil0cybin> yes
[02:58] <Taek> D250 ?
[02:58] <Psil0cybin> D270-1628
[02:58] <Psil0Cybin> cedarview-drm
[02:59] <Psil0Cybin> i think was the package
[02:59] <Taek> If I remember correctly, in my Acer Aspire One (D250) it used an Intel based chipset for the video
[02:59] <varunendra> soni1877, sorry, I missed that it was a usb device. We instead need to see "lsusb" (pastebin link again). Even better maybe if you post a detailed report following this post : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12350385
[02:59] <Psil0Cybin> To be honest i am not really sure :P I just know usually i allow every update, and nothing goes wrong, I am kinda new to Ubuntu thats why i want to learn how to diagnose it
[02:59] <Psil0Cybin> but you think its the driver?
[03:00] <Taek> It's a possiblity
[03:00] <Taek> when you get access to the gui again, try checking with the Additionhal Drivers
[03:00] <wilee-nilee> Psil0Cybin, Is it nvidia and did you load it from them?
[03:00] <Psil0Cybin> its Intel i belive wilee-nilee and im in the GUI now
[03:00] <Psil0Cybin> thats how i got in to talk to you guys
[03:00] <Psil0Cybin> Yea
[03:00] <Taek> I am pretty sure it's an intel based video chipset
[03:01] <Psil0Cybin> I went to propietary drivers
[03:01] <Psil0Cybin> i have both selected
[03:01] <Psil0Cybin> drm driver for Intel GMA500
[03:01] <Psil0Cybin> and Intel Cedarview graphics driver
[03:01] <Taek> Only one should be activated
[03:01] <Taek> Try the GMA500 Driver
[03:01] <Psil0Cybin> so take off Intel Cedarview Graphical Driver
[03:01] <Psil0Cybin> ?
[03:01] <Psil0Cybin> like remove it
[03:01] <Psil0Cybin> ?
[03:01] <Taek> select the GMA500 Driver and click activate
[03:01] <Taek> it will deactivate the other
[03:01] <Psil0Cybin> they are both activated
[03:02] <Psil0Cybin> i only see
[03:02] <Psil0Cybin> remove for both
[03:02] <Taek> then deselect the ceder one
[03:02] <Taek> err Select the ceder driver and click deactivate
[03:02] <Taek> and then restart the laptop, it should work fine after
[03:02] <wilee-nilee> Psil0Cybin, might be relevant. http://askubuntu.com/questions/290515/how-to-install-intel-cedarview-drivers-on-ubuntu-12-10-or-13-04
[03:02] <Psil0Cybin> okay :) thanks will try it now
[03:02] <Psil0Cybin> Okay im going to book mark that site too :) incase that doesnt work
[03:02] <Taek> :D
[03:03] <Psil0Cybin> let me try it and ill let you guys know
[03:03] <Rahoul> Hi, what is the proper syntax to add a whole subnet to a table using iproute? ip rule add <IP_ADDRESS>/24 does not seem to work :)
[03:03] <Psil0Cybin> i love this IRC channel :) the sexyest thing on the net
[03:03] <Taek> :D
[03:03] <Taek> used to use my acer aspire one for network drive bys
[03:03] <Taek> :D
[03:04] <Psil0Cybin> hahaah thats what this one is for
[03:04] <Psil0Cybin> i just love how small it is
[03:04] <Taek> Then my wife got ahold of it and burnt it out!
[03:05] <Taek> wonder why byobu reports my CPU as 2x0.7GHz at some points.
[03:07]  * Taek afk mode
[03:08] <Rahoul> hello?
[03:08] <Rahoul> :)
[03:09] <Psil0Cybin> Okay Taek when i deactivated the Intel Cedarview graphix it deactivated everything so I am reactivating the drm driver for the Intel GMA500
[03:16] <WACOMalt> Anyone in here familliar with qemu? I am getting terrible speeds on my windows guest and I assume it's due to the network settings in qemu. I havent changed anything fromt he default and although I get about 40Mbps upload on linux I get about 70Kbps on the windows guest
[03:17] <Taek> Why use qemu?
[03:17] <WACOMalt> because the server is headless
[03:17] <Taek> Not that it really matters in your choice, jut curious.
[03:17] <WACOMalt> and I was told it was the fastest
[03:17] <deezed> hey guys! I cant connect to a wpa wireless connection if there is any special caracther here, like é or ó. Do you know what can I do?
[03:17] <Taek> All my experiences with qemu have been horrible
[03:17] <WACOMalt> the server is headless and qemu gives you a vnc server directly to control the VM with
[03:17] <WACOMalt> it runs great aside from the network speed issue
[03:18] <Taek> is it running on a dedicated server?
[03:19] <Taek> FYI all my experiences with qemu have been on windows afaik.
[03:21] <deezed>  hey everyone, I'm trying to connect here to a wireless wpa2 connection which the password has special characters like "é" but I'm not allowed to connect,. Do you know what can I do?
[03:21] <Taek> Change the wifi password?
[03:22] <deezed> I cant, its from my girlfriend's house, and her mate wont like it
[03:22] <nimdAHK> sounds like you and the router are using different encodings
[03:23] <Taek> ^
[03:23] <deezed> nimdAHK: maybe...do you know how can I figure it out?
[03:23] <Taek> First off, figure out what enconding you're using?
[03:23] <Taek> I believe most routers use UTF-8 .
[03:23] <nimdAHK> try a different network manager too
[03:24] <Taek> Then again I am in U.S. so everything here is simplified.
[03:24] <deezed> nimdAHK: like which one?
[03:24] <nimdAHK> gotta catch 'em all?
[03:24] <deezed> Taek: true
[03:24] <nimdAHK> wicd maybe
[03:24] <deezed> nimdAHK: ok, I'll try!
[03:24] <deezed> nimdAHK: thanks
[03:24] <nimdAHK> yw, good luck!
[03:25] <ristra> hi, i am trying to get my wifi to work on 12.04
[03:25] <Taek> Network Adapter Chipset?
[03:25] <usr13> ristra: So what is the problem?
[03:25] <ristra> at some point, I think I messed up my /etc/network/interfaces file
[03:25] <Taek> Pastebin?
[03:25] <ristra> it doesn't have a wlan on it
[03:25] <ristra> okie, hold on, i ll pastebin it
[03:26] <usr13> ristra: iwconfig  #What does that say?
[03:26] <Taek> No wLan? add it?.
[03:26] <ristra> usr13 it only list eth0 and lo
[03:27] <Taek> Is it a PCI(e) or USB Adapter ristra
[03:27] <usr13> What wifi device do you have?  ( lspci )
[03:27] <ristra> Taek, yeap that is the idea but since I am very new (i cant stress the @very@ enough!) I was wondering if it add it on a specific position or something
[03:27] <Taek> What brand is it ristra ?
[03:27] <poz> so i have installed the lastest version of backports from here: http://drvbp1.linux-foundation.org/~mcgrof/rel-html/backports/
[03:27] <ristra> toshiba satellite c855
[03:27] <usr13> ristra: Wait, what does iwconfig say?   iwconfig | pastebinit    #Show us URL
[03:28] <poz> and now my usb wireless chip wont work
[03:28] <varunendra> ristra, pastebin the report generated by wireless_script : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12350385
[03:28] <ristra> http://pastebin.com/Fk1qLZzK here is my interfaces files
[03:28] <poz> anyone have any ideas
[03:28] <varunendra> that script will show almost everything (secure) wifi related. Everyone.
[03:28] <poz> it is like ubuntu doesnt even see the usb wireless dongle
[03:29] <varunendra> poz, do you have a wired connection now?
[03:29] <kmyst> anybody able to help with some routing issues? trying to route three networks and running into an issue where i can only ping some things
[03:29] <poz> i am using my laptops built in wireless card
[03:30] <poz> the usb wireless card was working before i installed the backports
[03:30] <poz> it is like the driver or somthing was over written and now it wont detect that it is plugged in
[03:30] <ristra> http://pastebin.com/NTfLdeFt  has my interfaces file and the report from iwconfig
[03:30] <varunendra> poz, we need to see "lsusb" and "nm-tool" output.
[03:31] <poz> okay, one sec
[03:31] <ristra> first question i guess is : can i just add wlan  to interfaces file?
[03:31] <usr13> ristra: lspci | pastebinit  #send url
[03:31] <Taek> Hopefully LSUSB sees it and can give us a chipset O.o
[03:32] <ristra> usr13 here it is http://pastebin.com/XKiDSgm1
[03:32] <ristra> the network controller is there
[03:32] <poz> varunendra, here are the results of both commends: http://pastebin.com/1d97dT31
[03:33] <Taek> Two wifi adapters
[03:33] <Taek> One Atheros and another Realtek
[03:33] <poz> this seems to be the usb wireless dongle Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8192CU 802.11n WLAN Adapte
[03:33] <Taek> Need to run a special driver for it
[03:34] <Taek> well I consider it special;
[03:34] <Taek> I forgot what it was called, but you need to run the bcwrapper?
[03:34] <Taek> I think that's it
[03:34] <soni1877> http://pastebin.com/e0xdrMM4
[03:34] <Taek> oh wait, that's for broadcom
[03:34] <soni1877> varunendra: http://pastebin.com/e0xdrMM4
[03:35] <varunendra> poz, you are using WPA/WPA2 mixed mode in the router. Not always a problem but more than often it is. Try changing it to pure WPA2-PSK (AES) only. No TKIP, no mixed mode.
[03:35] <usr13> ristra: 12.04?  Fully updated?
[03:36] <ristra> usr13: it was a fresh install until I started trying to fix this issue
[03:36] <ristra> I tried several different solutions I found online
[03:36] <usr13> ristra: 12.04 Desktop?  Is it fully updated?
[03:36] <poz> varunendra, this problem is independent of the router
[03:36] <ristra> and I just run the updater so yet, fully updated
[03:36] <poz> i can not get ubuntu to detect my usb wireless card
[03:36] <ristra> 280+  updated modules
[03:36] <usr13> ristra: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:37] <ristra> ok, i ll run that, hold on
[03:37] <ristra> and thanks by the way :)
[03:38] <ristra> all is upgraded
[03:38] <deezed> hey guys I'm trying to connect to my girlfriend's wireless network, but I can't! First I thought it was because the password had special characters, but its not. And the funniest part is that windows can connect!!!
[03:38] <varunendra> soni1877, try - "sudo modprobe -rfv rtl8192cu" ..... then ......... "sudo modprobe -v rtl8192cu swenc=Y" . See if it improves the connectivity.
[03:38] <deezed> do you know what can I do?
[03:39] <Taek> deezed: what wireless encryption mode is it running in?.
[03:39] <ristra> is it ok to change my /etc/network/interfaces to this: http://pastebin.com/uisvwSV1   ?
[03:39] <deezed> Taek: wpa2
[03:39] <varunendra> poz, for a detailed report : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12350385
[03:40] <Taek> wpa2?
[03:40] <deezed> Taek: yes
[03:42] <usr13> ristra: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2005981
[03:42] <deezed> Taek: is there maybe any driver I could install?
[03:42] <Taek> deezed: does it return any errors? or just bad password?
[03:43] <deezed> Taek: just connection failed
[03:44] <usr13> deezed: iwlist <wifi-name-here> -scan
[03:45] <Taek> deezed: I don't see why you would have an issue honestly
[03:45] <ristra_> i broke it but I managed to get back hurra
[03:45] <deezed> Taek: neither do I!!! thats the point. I cant figure it out
[03:46] <usr13> deezed: scratch the -   just iwlist wifi-device-name scan
[03:46] <Taek> shouldn't it be iwlist wifi-ssid scan?
[03:47] <usr13> deezed: first do   iwconfig   and tell us what it says.
[03:47] <deezed> usr13: ok, so now what do I do?
[03:47] <deezed> the access point is not-associated
[03:47] <usr13> deezed: Open a terminal and type   iwconfig   and hit enter
[03:47] <Moonlightning> I think I broke my kernel. I have a half-installed kernel package and /boot is too full to do anything.
[03:48] <poz> here is the results of the wireless script: http://pastebin.com/WYbu5xMe
[03:48] <deezed> usr13: I did and dont know if there is something uncommon
[03:48] <Moonlightning> I'm...pretty sure I don't need all these kernels. xP Is there something I can run to autoremove no longer needed kernel packages?
[03:48] <poz> can some one help me find out what happend to wlan1?
[03:48] <usr13> deezed: What is the essid of your AP?
[03:48] <deezed> usr13: "casa do caralho"
[03:49] <poz> it use to be my usb wireless dongle, but after I installed backports from here http://drvbp1.linux-foundation.org/~mcgrof/rel-html/backports/ it stoped working
[03:49] <usr13> deezed: iwconfig wlan0 essid "casa do caralho"
[03:49] <usr13> deezed: sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "casa do caralho"
[03:50] <deezed> usr13: ok
[03:50] <deezed> now what?
[03:51] <deezed> does anyone know what can I do next to access this wireless here?
[03:52] <ristra_> http://pastebin.com/iiLH46bs  how do I know which wlan to add?  it is not recognizing wlan0
[03:53] <wilee-nilee> Moonlightning, You have a boot partition?
[03:53] <Moonlightning> Yes?
[03:54] <wilee-nilee> Moonlightning, Ah generally not needed, however the ubuntu-tweak app has a janitor app that will clean up the extra kernels and other stuff.
[03:55] <wilee-nilee> Moonlightning, Ubuntu tweak is in a PPA.
[03:55] <Taek> Old kernels should be removable with apt-get auto-remove
[03:55] <Taek> apt-get autoremove
[03:55] <wilee-nilee> Not rue but can be done from the cli
[03:55] <wilee-nilee> true*
[03:55] <Moonlightning> I did autoremove
[03:55] <Moonlightning> It didn't remove any of the kernels :(
[03:56] <Taek> You can try with Ubuntu Tweak as wilee-nilee suggested.
[03:56] <Moonlightning> I only have a CLI though
[03:56] <wilee-nilee> Moonlightning, If you want a nice gui use the tweak, can be done from the terminal or synaptic as well.
[03:57] <wilee-nilee> the tweak gets the configs as well, nice little app really
[03:57] <Moonlightning> What's the name of the package?
[03:57] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu tweak it is in a ppa
[03:58] <wilee-nilee> http://ubuntu-tweak.com/ Or you can download the deb
[03:59] <wilee-nilee> here is the ppa be sure to load the key use the read about installing to get the key with the load.
[03:59] <wilee-nilee> https://launchpad.net/~tualatrix/+archive/ppa
[03:59] <Moonlightning> Agh
[03:59] <Moonlightning> Can't I just do it with apt-get? >.<
[03:59] <Taek> Manually delete it okay :D
[04:00] <wilee-nilee> Moonlightning, After loading the resorce yes, it is not in the ubuntu repos
[04:00] <Moonlightning> After what?
[04:00] <poz> real simple question, say i downloaded a driver and there is a install.sh file... how do i use this to install the driver?
[04:00] <Taek> you add the ppa
[04:00] <Moonlightning> Taek: yeah, looks like I"m gonna be doing that
[04:00] <Taek> poz sudo ./file.sh
[04:01] <Taek> or sudo file.sh
[04:01] <Taek> one of those
[04:01] <tux1000> hi
[04:01] <poz> well i tryed sudo install.sh
[04:01] <poz> did not work
[04:01] <Taek> then try sudo ./install.sh
[04:01] <Moonlightning> Grrrrrrrrr. If I just `sudo apt-get remove` everything except the latest two kernels, I should be fine, right?
[04:01] <Taek> if neither, sudo sh install.sh
[04:02] <poz> sudo ./install.sh
[04:02] <poz> sudo: ./install.sh: command not found
[04:02] <poz> sudo sh install.sh worked
[04:02] <poz> thank you
[04:02] <Nimble> lol
[04:02] <Nimble> you probably needed to do "chmod +x ./install.sh"
[04:03] <Phoenix1969> black screen when booting into ubuntu first time... after choosing the os at the blu startup screen
[04:03] <wilee-nilee> Moonlightning, dpkg -l | grep linux-image  to see kernels then sudo apt-get purge
[04:03] <Moonlightning> `sudo apt-get purge` all but the latest two kernels?
[04:03] <wilee-nilee> be careful is all I will say
[04:03] <Moonlightning> I was trying, but I kinda don't have time to muck around with PPAs x.x
[04:03] <wilee-nilee> most keep two sets yeah
[04:04] <wilee-nilee> Moonlightning, The ppa would be one command to load a update and install run the app and all done.
[04:04] <Moonlightning> Can I get a copypastable command, or
[04:04] <tux1000> install ultrastar deluxe in ubuntu 13.4
[04:05] <Moonlightning> ...ooookay, manually `apt-get purge`ing kernels, here I go.
[04:05] <wilee-nilee> !details | tux1000
[04:06] <Taek> In that order?!?!?
[04:06] <Taek> Oh man , I think I did it wrong
[04:07] <tux1000> i am running Ubuntu 13.4 of 64 bits
[04:07] <Taek> mine was issue @CLRF distro ##
[04:07] <anonee> hello everyone
[04:07] <Taek> `Elloo
[04:07] <wilee-nilee> tux1000, took me 3 seconds to find this. http://askubuntu.com/questions/286583/how-can-i-install-ultrastar-deluxe-in-ubuntu-13-04
[04:08] <wilee-nilee> never heard of the game
[04:08] <Taek> Should be installing steam instead
[04:08] <Moonlightning> I got warnings about broken symlinks under /boot
[04:09] <Taek> symlinks is link files
[04:09] <Taek> similar to shortcuts in windows
[04:09] <Moonlightning> I know what a symlink is. XD
[04:09] <poz> anyone know how to get ubuntu to recognize a wireless usb dongle?
[04:09] <Taek> :D
[04:09] <tux1000> this is the problem, it is not repository, the repository not official is for 12.10 and 12.4
[04:09] <Taek> poz I believe someone answered you already.
[04:10] <Moonlightning> Is there a command I can run to check if the system is bootable as it is now?
[04:10] <Moonlightning> I'm kinda scared to shut down. XD
[04:10] <poz> it has not solved my problem
[04:10] <Taek> You ran the cmdline code the person gave you about 5/10 mins ago?
[04:11] <Taek> I believe it was to install a driver.
[04:11] <poz> cmdline?
[04:11] <anonee> I'm trying to modify a program's icon in the notification area of GNOME Classic panel. I tried altering /usr/share/icons but to no avail... somebody told me that the icon reference is in /usr/share/applications/<appname> but what I'm finding there is icon=<icon> but not a path to where the icon file is... any help is appreciated
[04:11] <poz> the install.sh thing?
[04:11] <wilee-nilee> poz, when you post something are are talking with someone use their nick, you had a pro helper got as far as posting their script but did n ot direct it at them with their nick.
[04:11] <Taek> No. poz
[04:11] <poz> i installed the driver from the manufactuing website, but the wireless usb dongle still does not work
[04:12] <Taek> anonee: did you look in /usr/share/applications for the icon itself that was listed in the file?
[04:12] <wilee-nilee> !who | poz
[04:12] <poz> i understand
[04:12] <Moonlightning> [open query] Is there a command I can run to check if the system is bootable as it is now?
[04:12] <poz> taek, maybe i missed it as I was restarting my computer
[04:13] <anonee> Taek I don't understand, you mean the .desktop file contains an icon?!
[04:13] <wilee-nilee> poz, Cool we want you to succeed. ;)
[04:13] <Taek> you said there was a file you looked into in /usr/share/applications/
[04:13] <Taek> anonee*
[04:14] <Taek> anonee: did you happen to look for the icon file in the same folder with the file you retrieved the icon name from
[04:16] <wilee-nilee> Moonlightning, run sudo update-grub
[04:16] <anonee> Taek /usr/share/applications contains .desktop files, they contain something like this:
[04:16] <ascidia001> whats the general ubuntu chat name?
[04:16] <Moonlightning> wilee-nilee: I don't have grub
[04:16] <anonee> Taek Exec=tomboy --search
[04:16] <anonee> Icon=tomboy
[04:16] <anonee> StartupNotify=true
[04:16] <anonee> Terminal=false
[04:16] <FloodBot1> anonee: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:16] <Moonlightning> I have yaboot; grub doesn't support ppc x.x
[04:16] <wilee-nilee> Moonlightning, Is this a wubi install?
[04:16] <Moonlightning> wilee-nilee: No, it's a standard Ubuntu Server installation
[04:17] <Taek> anonee: I am aware of what's in there
[04:17] <Taek> do you know the location of the icon you want to use?
[04:17] <wilee-nilee> Moonlightning, Never heard of yaboot, there must be a autoload or file to check the boot.
[04:17] <anonee> Taek that was just an example, there's still more 9 lines...
[04:17] <Moonlightning> argh
[04:18] <wilee-nilee> Moonlightning, Your answers are probably here. http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/inst/yaboot-howto/
[04:18] <Taek> anonee: did you logout/in after making your icon change?
[04:18] <anonee> Oh sorry Taek, then what do you suggest? it says: icon=tomboy but where is tomboy?!
[04:18] <Pepperonipizza> im trying to copy one large dir + sub dirs to another, but I don't want to overwrite existing files only copy the new ones, will cp -rvn do that ?
[04:19] <anonee> Taek no actually, and sorry, I'll try and let u know if any
[04:19] <Taek> Okay :D
[04:19] <anonee> thank you Taek
[04:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> I don't suppose anyone here has a tutorial on how to create a package like flashplugin-installer or oracle-java7-installer, one that just downloads something and installes it for you?
[04:20] <Moonlightning> [open query] Isn't there just some apt-get command to redo all the...whatever it normally does when you install|remove kernels?
[04:21] <Taek> Moonlightning: I believe not.
[04:21] <Moonlightning> Aaaaargh.
[04:21] <Taek> I could be wrong, but I am pretty certain there isn't.
[04:21]  * Moonlightning installs an older kernel then. >.<
[04:21] <Pepperonipizza> what does portupgrade -a do ?
[04:22] <Taek> portupgrade --?
[04:22] <Taek> portupgrade -?
[04:22] <Taek> portupgrade --help
[04:22] <Taek> try those
[04:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> or man portupgrade :P
[04:22] <Taek> that too
[04:23] <Taek> thought that would be too much for him/her, ntzrmtthihu777
[04:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> lol, I say jump in both feet first XD
[04:24] <Taek> and hurt your jewels?
[04:24] <Taek> (for a guy that is)
[04:25]  * Taek <- guy
[04:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> lol XD
[04:25] <wilee-nilee> Taek, This is a family channel.
[04:25] <Pepperonipizza> why does cp -rvn /dir /newdir  -- clobber stuff I thought it wasn't supposed to
[04:25] <DarkAceLaptop> is there something similar to /timer command (hexchat) that I can use in the command line?
[04:26] <DarkAceLaptop> basically, something that will execute a command after an amount of time
[04:26] <wilee-nilee> DarkAceLaptop, There is #xchat for help as well, I use hexcaht same basic apps.
[04:27] <Taek> DarkAceLaptop: Have you tried "Sleep(600)" or "Sleep 600"
[04:27] <anonee> Taek I just did, no joy. I expected this cuz I restarted the program before.
[04:27] <DarkAceLaptop> hmm
[04:27] <Taek> Pretty common using sleep
[04:27] <wilee-nilee> DarkAceLaptop, Can you be specific, that is a vague decription at least to me.
[04:27] <Taek> anonee: did you modify the icon in /usr/share/icons/default/ ?
[04:28] <Taek> or in just a random folder?
[04:28] <wilee-nilee> a like refrence only means something to someone who knows what you are talking about.
[04:28] <Moonlightning> welp
[04:28] <DarkAceLaptop> ah, thanks Taek
[04:28] <Moonlightning> If it comes down to it, I should be able to boot using this old kernel
[04:28] <DarkAceLaptop> wilee-nilee, sleep is just what I was looking for
[04:28] <Moonlightning> rebooting now, wish me luck :P
[04:28] <wilee-nilee> ah cool
[04:28] <Taek> Moonlightning: G/L
[04:29] <Taek> DarkAceLaptop: It's a pretty common command in alot of scripting languages
[04:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> so no-one knows about that?
[04:29] <anonee> Taek no! I did a search for the program name and there were icons only in the hicolor theme, although I'm not using this theme, but these were the icons that I modified! but I'll check now.
[04:29] <wilee-nilee> ntzrmtthihu777, Not really needed in linux per-say
[04:30] <wilee-nilee> plenty of package types and loaders already
[04:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> wilee-nilee: I'm doing this for the non-techs, lol.
[04:30] <Taek> DarkAceLaptop: FYI sleep in most scripting languages pauses the script for the given amount of time specified prior to continuing on
[04:31] <DarkAceLaptop> yeah, so 'sleep 500; command'
[04:31] <wilee-nilee> ntzrmtthihu777, Ah, adding to the confusion, you go then. ;)
[04:31] <Taek> DarkAceLaptop: 500 devided by 60
[04:31] <Taek> Should tell you how long it will pause for in seconds
[04:31] <DarkAceLaptop> is there a way of asking a program to exit, or is that what kill does?
[04:32] <Taek> EXIT 0
[04:32] <Taek> in most cases DarkAceLaptop
[04:32] <Taek> EXIT or EXIT 0
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> DarkAceLaptop: theres one that can kill apps after memory limit too
[04:32] <Taek> depends on the language you're scripting in
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> forget its name
[04:32] <DarkAceLaptop> as in, a command via terminal
[04:32] <anonee> Taek guess what! the default directory only contains index.theme and it says inherit=DMZ-White and DMZ-White has only cursors. how can you explain that?!
[04:32] <Pepperonipizza> trying to copy files without overwriting but cp -rvn is overwriting... any ideas ?
[04:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> Pepperonipizza: cp -rvnc?
[04:33] <Pepperonipizza> ntzrmtthihu777: whats c ?
[04:33] <Taek> anonee: Not a clue, dpn'
[04:33] <Taek> don't think I could explain even if I knew haha
[04:33] <Pepperonipizza> i don't see a c in the manpage
[04:33] <Taek> Pepperonipizza: you might be using a wrong switch
[04:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> wilee-nilee: lol, just want something simple for the minecraft modders on linux so they can install techne without pulling their hair out :P
[04:34] <Taek> techne?
[04:34] <Pepperonipizza> Taek: well -n is no clobber = no overwrite I though
[04:34] <wilee-nilee> ntzrmtthihu777, I understand.
[04:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> wilee-nilee: I got it working manually, but not everyone using linux is that techie :P
[04:35] <Taek> Pepperonipizza: try with -i instead of in
[04:35] <Taek> -n *
[04:35] <Taek> see if will work with interactive overwrite requests
[04:35] <PiyushB> in dd command the base size is refers to page size in memory of the block to be written on harddisk ?
[04:36] <Pepperonipizza> Taek: if I have to answer every time its gonna take a week its like 400gb of files
[04:36] <wilee-nilee> ntzrmtthihu777, I could not code my way out of a thin paper bag, and an armchair user, just a bit obsessed is all. ;)
[04:36] <Taek> Pepperonipizza: try with a compule of files
[04:36] <Taek> not all
[04:36] <varunendra> Pepperonipizza, take a look at rsync (man rsync).
[04:36] <Pepperonipizza> Taek: yes its asking
[04:37] <Taek> Pepperonipizza: you are correct though -n is supposed to not allow overwriting
[04:38] <Pepperonipizza> varunendra: ok so rsync -rv -- but what switch is like -n on cp ?
[04:38] <Pepperonipizza> ---ignore-existing
[04:38] <Pepperonipizza> k
[04:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> Pepperonipizza: maybe -u ? it only copies when the new file is newer than the destination
[04:39] <varunendra> Pepperonipizza, I haven't used it via command line myself, just read about it sometimes.
[04:40] <Pepperonipizza> seems like neithero ne works
[04:40] <Pepperonipizza> wtf
[04:40] <aoglobalent> need some newbie help, can any one be of service?
[04:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> !ask | aoglobalent
[04:41] <wilee-nilee> !language > Pepperonipizza
[04:41] <Pepperonipizza> oh grow up dude
[04:41] <Pepperonipizza> honestly you fucking troll
[04:42] <holstein> Pepperonipizza: i do appreciate your help here, but you cant use that language here, please
[04:42] <aoglobalent> o.k., I just did a fresh install of Ubuntu's latest version. I have not used Linux in apx 4 years, so I am very "green" to this all. I am installing catalyst for my 7990's. It is taking a bit, but needless to say it is workjing thus far... That being said what I need to know is how to access my repositories?
[04:42] <Pepperonipizza> varunendra: ntzrmtthihu777 itseems like using both -u and --ignore-existing is working
[04:43] <holstein> aoglobalent: what repositories do you have?
[04:43] <Taek> aoglobalent: repositories for what?
[04:43] <wilee-nilee> aoglobalent, name the actual install, what are your repositories.
[04:43] <holstein> aoglobalent: ppa's?
[04:43] <Taek> Ubuntu Software Center if you need to look for something aoglobalent.
[04:43] <happyface> how can I login to a mounted linux volume? I have a /mnt/wontBoot filesystem with a broken image and I want to login as root and fix it
[04:43] <aoglobalent> ahhh
[04:44] <aoglobalent> ok
[04:44] <anonee> Taek could the icon be inside the application like in windows?
[04:44] <holstein> happyface: i usually just hit it with a live CD
[04:44] <Pepperonipizza> happyface: chroot ?
[04:44] <happyface> Pepperonipizza: yeah chroot, that's it! thanks
[04:44] <Taek> anonee: Not all icons are inside their applications in windows. but there is a possiblity.
[04:44] <holstein> !chroot
[04:44] <aoglobalent> I am running a dual core because this is a mining Rig and needless to say, I needed to run one Linux box for various reasons.. That being said, can I find CGMiner in the repos?
[04:44] <Pepperonipizza> happyface: np ;-D
[04:45] <Taek> aoglobalent: most things like that are not in the Official Ubuntu Repos, but you can look to see
[04:45] <aoglobalent> I believe that is why it is taking so long for these ATI drivers to be installed... I mean this thing has been going for about 20 minutes now :/
[04:45] <aoglobalent> got yah
[04:46] <aoglobalent> Taek, thanks allot for the help :)
[04:46] <Pepperonipizza> aoglobalent: 7990's in linux, what for lol?
[04:46] <wilee-nilee> aoglobalent, It is in the saucy universe
[04:46] <Taek> aoglobalent: I just did a search, CGMiner is not there - you'll probably have to compile it from source
[04:46] <aoglobalent> Mining
[04:46] <Pepperonipizza> ahh.
[04:46] <aoglobalent> Crypto Coin Mining
[04:46] <Pepperonipizza> I thought mining wasn't really profitable anymore
[04:46] <wilee-nilee> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cgminer/3.3.1-1
[04:47] <alex_> Okay so what's with the 4 days thing on Ubuntu's homepage?
[04:47] <ntiy> hey. I am trying to do something like: ssh host "do smth | awk '{print $1}' " and it does not work. AWK part does not seem so process output of smth and print only first column. Instead I get full output. Can someone explain why?
[04:47] <Taek> Oh, it's in the extras..
[04:47] <aoglobalent> well, that is what they say, but I say dif....
[04:47] <aoglobalent> I am not even fully operations yet, and I am mining Coins no problem...
[04:47] <aoglobalent> The problem has become the Asic Miners Really
[04:47] <aoglobalent> They have taken the difficulty levels through the roof
[04:48] <aoglobalent> but there are alt Coin's, etc....
[04:48] <Taek> Asic?.
[04:48] <aoglobalent> YUP
[04:48] <wilee-nilee> alex_, HOw about a link to it or some details.
[04:48] <aoglobalent> they are a type of Mining Chip
[04:48] <aoglobalent> I am not to clear on the whole story to be honest, but essentialy there are new mining machines that do 10x more than GPU's with 10X less power consumption
[04:49] <alex_> wilee-nilee: http://www.ubuntu.com/
[04:49] <Taek> ntiy I don't think you can run a command on the same line as ssh host directly
[04:49] <aoglobalent> The Power consumption on these baby's ios the problem....
[04:49] <viju> Hello, how do I check what new version of the update is available for a package?
[04:49] <Pepperonipizza> if I had 7990's i'd game on them haha.
[04:49] <Taek> viju: update manager.
[04:49] <wilee-nilee> alex_, they might know better in #ubuntu-touch
[04:50] <ntiy> Taek: you definitely can do ssh host 'hostname'
[04:50] <Taek> I didn't say you couldn't ntiy
[04:50] <ntiy> Taek: what did you mean then?
[04:50] <Taek> ntiy: I don't believe you can run a command in the same line with the ssh host command
[04:51] <viju> Taek: I am looking for thunderbird update, in update manager there's nohing is listed about Thunderbird
[04:51] <Taek> Basically what you are doing is running two commands in the same line
[04:51] <Taek> viju http://www.mozzila.com/thunderbird
[04:51] <Taek> should do it
[04:51] <ntiy> am I not running one command on a remote host?
[04:51] <Taek> mis-spelling lol
[04:52] <Taek> viju:  sorry about that link - correctly -> http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/
[04:52] <wilee-nilee> viju, Wot does not like that link, what thnderbird do you ahve and what do you want.
[04:53] <wilee-nilee> second link is okay, not sure why one would not use the repos.
[04:53] <Taek> Why is it everytime I stand up - my wife's cat runs for dear life!
[04:53] <Taek> wilee-nilee: the person wishes to check version
[04:54] <steve__> I was just trying to update my Ubuntu to 12.04 and I got an error saying it could not import a module during Installing the uprades part of the download
[04:54] <wilee-nilee> Taek, The repos have the same versions in 24 hrs or less.
[04:54] <Taek> steve__: to which version are you updating?
[04:54] <viju> I'll check that Taek .   wilee-nilee my msn mails are not being fetched since april but it used to work pulling out some data, so when I check out that it's downloading same old mails from the past and now I have lots of duplicates. Someone suggested downloading a newer version should help solve the problem.
[04:54] <steve__> I rebooted it and got stuck at a command line that say (initramfs)
[04:55] <steve__> Taek: 12.04
[04:55] <Taek> steve__: from 12.04 to which?
[04:55] <steve__> also says BusyBox v1. 13.3
[04:55] <wilee-nilee> viju, What doe the help in yuour thunderbird show as a version?
[04:56] <steve__> Taek no from 10 to 12
[04:56] <Taek> Weird, I just did it couple of days ago without issue
[04:56] <Taek> from 1.04.4 to 12.04
[04:56] <Taek> 10.04.4 to 12.04
[04:56] <steve__> yep
[04:56] <Taek> how did you initiate the upgrade?
[04:57] <viju> wilee-nilee: 17.0.6
[04:57] <steve__> USB
[04:57] <Taek> Hmm
[04:57] <steve__> I installed it onto the ram first
[04:57] <Taek> Somehow somewhere it's possible that the USB drive got disconnected.
[04:57] <wilee-nilee> viju, Only thing newer is 17.0.7, I doubt the problem is a upgrade needed, have you asked in ##windows as far as any changes to MSN.
[04:58] <ntiy> there is my answer if anyone is wondering:  ssh host "do smth | awk '{print \$1}' "
[04:58] <ntiy> thanks all
[04:58] <steve__> then installed 10.04.4 onto the system successfully then just tried to upgrade
[04:58] <Taek> ntiy: :D
[04:58] <wilee-nilee> !eol | steve__ look at eol upgrades
[04:58] <Taek> steve__: sorry I don't have any idea how to possibly help
[04:59] <viju> wilee-nilee: I am doing it now
[04:59] <wilee-nilee> steve__, This is a desktop right?
[04:59] <Taek> Usually if something like that happens to me, I just download the latest distro or the one I want and install fresh
[04:59] <steve__> wilee: yep
[04:59] <wilee-nilee> viju, Cool I see you there.
[04:59] <steve__> I'm just going to uimage another USB stick
[05:00] <steve__> and try it again
[05:00] <wilee-nilee> steve__, Cool the dektop is eol, the server is not, just wanted to be sure we were on the same page.
[05:00] <Taek> 10.04.4 is EOL..
[05:00] <wilee-nilee> steve__, What is the problem with a 12.04 install?
[05:00] <xmetal> =)) just noticed a hickup in my idea ... i need to apply a bios upgrade to a laptop that cant  boot to usb devices (flash drive or cdrw/dvdrw) .. was going to use my old portable A:Drive (3x5 disc)
[05:00] <xmetal> but that is USB too
[05:00] <Taek> wilee-nilee: his upgrade failed hard during install of one of the packages
[05:00] <wilee-nilee> Taek, The server is not though
[05:00] <xmetal> =))
[05:01] <sodacrunch> if you are on Ubuntu, and you have Ruby 1.9 installed and you want 2.0, can you apt-get update ruby, or remove ruby and then specifically install 2.0?
[05:01] <Taek> wilee-nilee: that's weird, repos are missing for me!
[05:01] <steve__> wilee:  it got an error while in dkconf
[05:01] <Taek> let me check something
[05:01] <wilee-nilee> steve__, On the 12.04 install?
[05:01] <steve__> wilee:  during the upragding stage of the installation
[05:02] <steve__> yes
[05:02] <wilee-nilee> steve__, So why not just install 12.04?
[05:02] <Taek> what the!!!.. now I can't login.. permission denied (pubkey)
[05:02] <steve__> I was trying to install 12.04
[05:02] <wilee-nilee> and what happened?
[05:02] <xmetal> sometimes i find a "fresh install" is better
[05:03] <Taek> Why would I get a permissions died (pubkey)
[05:03] <Taek> when attempting to ssh
[05:03] <Taek> Unless.. my pub keys didn't stay!
[05:04] <steve__> during the installation it got an error in the usr/bin file while setting up dkconf
[05:04] <wilee-nilee> steve__, Did you check the sum of the ISO?
[05:04] <steve__> wilee: no
[05:05] <netlar> I am using the AMD driver, should I be blacklisting the open source driver?
[05:05] <wilee-nilee> steve__, It is rather unusual for it to just error out in a install, going to a eol to upgrade is a bad idea, use the mini netload maybe.
[05:06] <wilee-nilee> or check the sum and or download 12.04 again in the torrent maybe.
[05:09] <vigoos> I have lost my ubuntu password. I tried resetting the password from recovery mode. Still it throws up an error and im stuck
[05:09] <Taek> oh my bad wilee-nilee seems I am running 11.04 not 10.04.4
[05:10] <vigoos> I have lost my ubuntu password. I tried resetting the password from recovery mode.
[05:11] <wilee-nilee> Taek, Heh, it happens, check the eol upgrades if you mve up.
[05:11] <wilee-nilee> move*
[05:11] <vigoos> anyone has any solution?
[05:11] <Taek> 12.04 is like 2016 or 2017.
[05:11] <wilee-nilee> vigoos, what link did you use to try the recovery?
[05:12] <wilee-nilee> vigoos, And what happened.
[05:12] <vigoos> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/reset-your-forgotten-ubuntu-password-in-2-minutes-or-less/
[05:12] <vigoos> it threw up an error saying password unchanged
[05:12] <Taek> i'll be already with 12.04 until year 2017
[05:13] <tracekill> So, is UEFI pretty much the death sentence for dual booting that it seems to be?
[05:13] <tracekill> Or rather SecureBoot?
[05:13] <jdale> Hi
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | tracekill
[05:14] <wilee-nilee> vigoos, Have you set a root password, besides having the user password?
[05:14] <jdale> Hi
[05:15] <Taek> hmm I forgot how to do multiple irc servers with irssi :(
[05:16] <goddard> Taek: you could just use multiple tabs
[05:16] <wilee-nilee> tracekill, Many dualboot with the safeboot, it is just a learning exspeience for some I think.
[05:17] <wilee-nilee> tracekill, here is more info that is probably helpful. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[05:17] <tracekill> Yeah, I literally just now got it (somewhat) working on my Acer M5-583P-6428. Is there somewhere I can put the caveats I ran into?
[05:18] <wilee-nilee> tracekill, YOu could add them to that thread I posted for the author to look at.
[05:18] <wilee-nilee> Not sure its open is all
[05:18] <Taek> Whoia Just got an error about lssb_re;ease
[05:19] <Taek> lsb_release
[05:20] <Taek> What would cause this: lsb_release crashed with IOError in getstatusoutput(); [Errno 10] No child Processes
[05:21] <Pepperonipizza> Taek: isn't it lsb_release -a
[05:21] <Taek> I dunno
[05:21] <Taek> Ubuntu error window
[05:22] <Taek> "Sorry, Ubuntu 12.04 has experienced and internal error."
[05:22] <Taek> one of those windows
[05:23] <Taek> upgrade did horrible from 10.04.4 to 12.04
[05:24] <vigoos_> anyone knows how to reset the password from grub?
[05:24] <Taek> man I might just go streight to 13.04 at this time
[05:24] <sodacrunch> I am scared
[05:25] <irssi-mike> I had no mouse after installing nvidia drivers so i did modprobe psmouse proto=imps and it came back but now I realize that even under settings it appears that I can't adjust the sensitivity of it (it's extremely slow) and i'm wondering how to get my mouse back permanently and change the senstivity?
[05:25] <irssi-mike> pretty please
[05:27] <xmetal> that reminds me .. i just (never saw/messed with it before) saw gfxboot (have to find what that does and how to use it ... ) as well as (i think i have this right) grub-image (to boot ISO's?)
[05:27] <xmetal> just noticed that in the description
[05:28] <wilee-nilee> sodacrunch, Some general info. http://askubuntu.com/questions/261329/package-for-ruby-2-0-on-precise
[05:29] <wilee-nilee> xmetal, You can boot ISO dfrom grub on a install, and there are handfuls of usb loaders many of which allow multiple ISO's
[05:30] <Taek> I wonder, that person that wanted to make a deb for minecraft, why he/she just not make a install.run script
[05:32] <wilee-nilee> seemed like an imagined need anyway, learning the ways everyone uses seems like more functional learning situation
[05:34] <aoglobalent> how do I check if my catlayst - sti drivers are installed?
[05:34] <Taek> well, an install.run script is just basically a sh script with binary data attached to it (file.tar.gz) and can be adapted to different distros and version between them
[05:34] <aoglobalent> I just went to the ATI site and downloaded the drivers
[05:35] <aoglobalent> I walked away from my comp and it froze my screen and am not sure if my drivers finished installing
[05:35] <aoglobalent> HOW can I check?
[05:35] <Taek> hmm I don't know that answer aoglobalent
[05:35] <Taek> maybe wilee-nilee  ??
[05:36] <wilee-nilee> Taek, I get some 3rd parties that are sh scripts yeah no biggie to install.
[05:37] <wilee-nilee> Honestly I suspect the gamers need another type of help, lol
[05:37]  * wilee-nilee ducks
[05:37] <sodacrunch> thanks wilee-nilee
[05:37]  * sodacrunch sighs
[05:38] <wilee-nilee> sodacrunch, seems to be a time to yell at the ruby developers.
[05:38] <sodacrunch> wilee-nilee: hmmm true
[05:41] <Taek> aoglobalent: you could try this
[05:41] <Taek> egrep -i " connected|card detect|primary dev" /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:41] <paindeer> hi
[05:43] <Pepperonipizza> does anyone know if I make a partition using parted on linux w/ type ufs is it ufs or ufs2 ?
[05:45] <Taek> aoglobalent: you can try installing sysinfo and see if that tells you want's going on
[05:50] <sodacrunch> goo
[05:50] <sodacrunch> goodnight friends
[05:58] <Taek> <3 AMD
[05:58] <Taek> they make drivers for linux unlike that of intel
[05:58] <Taek> err nvidia
[06:01] <farbod> ##xbox
[06:12] <kingbeast> I've never had a problem with any Intel graphics I have ever used, even the old ones.
[06:13] <Calinou> i have kernel panics 1) randomly when booting, 2) often when my CPU is at full load, on xubuntu 13.04
[06:13] <Calinou> i heard 3.8.0-19 kernel was problematic, is this true?
[06:13] <Calinou> but i usually don't crash at idle
[06:13] <wilee-nilee> Calinou, you should have <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:14] <Calinou> i'll hope for the update manager to not fuck up my PPA-provided nvidia driver then
[06:14] <kingbeast> !language
[06:14] <Calinou> sorry
[06:15] <feever> I'm having choppy then failing sound with wine on 12.04. PulseAudio works fine for everything else. It's just sound on wine. I've been having trouble finding others with the exact same issue. Audio device is Radeon HD 4000 series.
[06:17] <feever> the kernel module is snd-hda-intel
[06:17] <wilee-nilee> feever, Have you stopped by #winehq
[06:17] <feever> wilee-nilee, not yet, will do.
[06:18] <feever> wilee-nilee, that's not the channel
[06:18] <wilee-nilee> feever, For?
[06:18] <feever> wine channel
[06:19] <wilee-nilee> feever, Funny I was just there and there info link is the eine website.
[06:19] <wilee-nilee> wine*
[06:19] <Calinou> :/ can't update through the GUI update manager
[06:19] <Calinou> complains about unauthentified software sources
[06:19] <wilee-nilee> Topic for #winehq is: Wine end user support http://www.winehq.org feever
[06:20] <ikonia> Calinou: what does ?
[06:20] <feever> wilee-nilee, typo in channel name, sorry
[06:20] <wilee-nilee> feever, it happens. ;)
[06:20] <Calinou> maybe it's relevant but when I do sudo apt-get update I get these warnings:
[06:21] <Calinou> erm, I tried uncommenting all my PPAs
[06:22] <ikonia> Calinou: what's the actual problem
 i have kernel panics 1) randomly when booting, 2) often when my CPU is at full load, on xubuntu 13.04
[06:22] <Calinou> also had this on 12.10, with two different RAMs and storages.
[06:22] <Calinou> (but I never had it on booting)
[06:22] <Calinou> also read somewhere ubuntu hates SSDs
[06:22] <ikonia> Calinou: ok, that's just wrong
[06:22] <Calinou> and that's why I crash sometimes on boot
[06:22] <ikonia> nope
[06:23] <ikonia> there is zero chance of that being the case
[06:23] <Calinou> i read the 3.8.0-19 kernel was panicky
[06:23] <ikonia> nope
[06:23] <ikonia> you seem to be reading a lot of random made up information
[06:24] <Calinou> it's not overheating, my CPU hardly hits 55°C at load
[06:24] <Calinou> same for graphics card
[06:24] <ikonia> always good to know and check
[06:38] <wilee-nilee> Calinou, Sounds like you might develop a critical thinking process, double check what you read, I run ubuntu on a SSD with o problems.
[06:39] <Calinou> i'm not asking for ops dissing me here 8)
[06:40] <wilee-nilee> Calinou, Nobodies dissing you that critical thinking is what you learn in academia.
[06:40] <wilee-nilee> did not mean to anyway. ;)
[06:41] <taek> custom minecaft launcher yay
[06:43] <Calinou> avoid from using them, especially if they're not open source
[06:43] <taek> Calinou: are you talking to me?
[06:44] <Calinou> yes
[06:45] <taek> Laucnher command? not sure what to call it
[06:45] <taek> Shortcut to launch it?
[06:46] <taek> Application Launcher
[06:47] <Taek> since in my ubuntu enviornment, while click on the Minecraft.jar - it opens in Archive pogram
[06:47] <mohawk> Is there any reson to fear Ubuntu, is the Canonical dev team safe? what if they dont like us or get mad at us? thats kinda scary to think about.
[06:47] <Calinou> make a .sh that uses java -Xms1G -jar minecraft.jar
[06:47] <Taek> so instead of having to open terminal and continue to use it to play, I made a app launcher
[06:47] <Calinou> mohawk: they are safe
[06:48] <Calinou> and if you're using steam or a proprietary driver right now, you're being hypocritic 8)
[06:48] <ikonia> what ?
[06:48] <Calinou> people complain about ubuntu, and they use tons of proprietary stuff.
[06:48] <Calinou> once i even saw people using skype
[06:48] <Taek> I have an actual icon to click on the side to launch minecraft, Calinou
[06:49] <Calinou> it's just a .sh script or a .desktop file
[06:49] <ikonia> Calinou: his question has NOTHING to do with propritary software, you appear to have real issues reading information given to you
[06:49] <Calinou> no i'm relating both
[06:50] <ikonia> Calinou: this is nothing to do with propitary software, please help people with the questions they ask, not your weak attempts to be negative about things
[06:50] <Taek> ikonia: I wasn't asking a question haha
[06:50] <ikonia> Taek: who said you where ?
[06:50] <Taek> Just stating.
[06:50] <ikonia> thanks for that random bit of info
[06:51] <Calinou> does anyone have any idea why does my problem occur?
[06:51] <ikonia> Calinou: what have you done to investigate it ?
[06:52] <Calinou> tried with several RAMs already, tried resetting BIOS settings
[06:52] <ikonia> that is just random
[06:52] <ikonia> what have you actually done to investigate it
[06:52] <Taek> What's your issue Calinou  ?
[06:52] <Alegreya> trol
[06:53] <Calinou> kernel panics (or freeze + reboot) when I use 100% CPU, or sometimes when booting or logging in
[06:53] <Calinou> what do you mean by "actually done to investigate it"?
[06:53] <Taek> ANd you are certain this is caused by ram?.
[06:53] <ikonia> Calinou: well, what have you done to look at the problem / diagnose it, find a pattern/rule out a pattern
[06:53] <Calinou> no? i'm actually thinking it's a software issue
[06:54] <ikonia> Calinou: the odds are it is a software issue
[06:54] <Calinou> i get this problem since i built my PC in march
[06:54] <Alegreya> its caused by cat fur in the cpu fan
[06:54] <ikonia> Alegreya: stop it now
[06:54] <Calinou> no, i even changed the thermal paste recently, to no avail
[06:54] <ikonia> Alegreya: help with real help, or be quiet
[06:54] <Taek> Calinou: have you attempted to try with an alternate OS, windows perhaps?
[06:54] <ikonia> Calinou: ok, so lets look at it a bit logically
[06:54] <ikonia> Calinou: what's your current OS ?
[06:54] <Calinou> xubuntu 13.04 64 bit
[06:55] <ikonia> Calinou: ok, you said you built this PC in march correct ?
[06:55] <Calinou> yes
[06:55] <afflicto_> Hey all, I recently did "sudo apt-get remove compiz" by accident. What should I do?
[06:55] <ikonia> Calinou: has ubuntu 13.04 always been the OS on it (doubtful as 04 is after march)
[06:55] <Calinou> used to use xubuntu 12.10 64 bit on it
[06:55] <aeon-ltd> afflicto: install it again?
[06:55] <ikonia> afflicto_: re-install it ?
[06:55] <ikonia> Calinou: ok, in the short time you used 12.10 - did you have this problem ?
[06:55] <Alegreya> accident...
[06:56] <Calinou> IIRC, only when 100% CPU is used, not when booting
[06:56] <Taek> You don't accidently remove compiz in terminal..
[06:56] <ikonia> Calinou: ok, so there is still a panic though, so for at least one root cause, you can stop thinking abou things like kernel as they are different between the two versions
[06:56] <afflicto_> I was gonna remove copmiz-settings-manager thing xD
[06:56] <ikonia> agreed ?
[06:56] <Taek> ikonia: Agreed.
[06:57] <ikonia> Taek: ok, so the first thing I heard early was "disable all my PPA's"
[06:57] <ikonia> Taek: oops, sorry not you
[06:57] <Taek> HAHAH
[06:57] <ikonia> Calinou: the first thing I heard earlier is "disable all my PPA's"
[06:58] <ikonia> Calinou: PPA's are not supported/maintained by the ubuntu core dev team, and often are just terrible software,
[06:58] <Calinou> relevant: http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=1286311 (french)
[06:58] <lenz> Hey guys! I'd like to install a linux-based OS on a piece of hardware that I have here.. It's a JayBook 9901 (one of those tiny chinese netbooks) and it has a VIA M8505 processor, which is ARM-based. How do I find out which debian image I should download?
[06:58] <Calinou> ikonia: nvidia-319 isn't available in official ubuntu repos
[06:58] <ikonia> Calinou: to work this through, (you'll hate this) I suggest a CLEAN 13.04 install, with no PPA's installed at all, no 3rd party
[06:58] <ikonia> Calinou: ahhhh and it's abinary kernel module
[06:58] <ikonia> Calinou: I think we see a nice suspect
[06:59] <Calinou> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1169984
[06:59] <ikonia> Calinou: I suggest a clean install with NO PPA's installed, run it with the vesa xorg driver and monitor it to see if you get the panics under load
[06:59] <ikonia> Calinou: are you having that bug / error ?
[06:59] <Taek> I would also like to add, if the issues continues try a something such as windows or perhaps debian.
[06:59] <Calinou> likely
[07:00] <Calinou> I see that snd_hda thingy
[07:00] <ikonia> Calinou: no, are you getting it, yes/no
[07:00] <Taek> To see if the High CPU issue continues
[07:00] <ikonia> Calinou: that's a sound card module unloading, that means nothing
[07:00] <Calinou> I am seeing it
[07:00] <ikonia> Calinou: sorry, you appear to be approaching this randomly rather than actually analysing your problem
[07:01] <ikonia> can't help while you just guess at things and try to link them to random bugs
[07:01] <ikonia> we've already shown with 12.10 it's not the kernel at this root cause, and you agreed, yet your linking to kernel bugs
[07:01] <ikonia> can't be bothered wasting more time on this,
[07:02] <Calinou> didn't have it at booting, just when CPU is at load
[07:03] <ikonia> Calinou: you still had a kernel panic, you've got to address one at a time
[07:03] <ikonia> rather than scatter gun
[07:04] <feever> mohawk, as long as they don't load spyware by default on the main distro, I think the Ubuntu team may be ok.  If you don't trust them, don't use it"
[07:06] <ikonia> Calinou: what do you mean "solutions"
[07:06] <aeon-ltd> mohawk: you crazy man, should you fear the electric companies? gas? ISPs? banks?
[07:06] <Calinou> drivers which provide what my card can provide
[07:07] <mohawk> feever: no I meant that my cousin is mentally ill and rants on irc with my computer and didnt want to make the dev team mad at my ip address because i have no way to deal with high technology
[07:07] <ikonia> Calinou: it is "trouble shooting", to find the problem
[07:07] <aeon-ltd> mohawk: then they will ban you and not care unless you forcibly removed the ban
[07:07] <feever> mohawk, http://www.pcworld.com/article/2013315/ubuntu-linuxs-amazon-integration-gets-a-thumbs-down-from-the-eff.html
[07:07] <ikonia> Calinou: sorry, can't help you, you don't to listen, you can't approach this logically, and you've already made up your mind
[07:08] <Calinou> bye anyway, for now
[07:08] <Calinou> also, i am listening
[07:10] <Frank81> Realy big trouble ! i cant use apt-get remove coz it fails
[07:10] <ikonia> Frank81: you'll need to explain clearer than that if you want help
[07:10] <ikonia> Frank81: the answer with the same ammount of detail is "fix it"
[07:10] <aeon-ltd> Frank81: post the exact message here if it fits on one line, if not pastebin
[07:12] <Frank81> http://pastebin.de/35412
[07:13] <Frank81> since i am not sure what the exact fail is :d there are many
[07:13] <Frank81> but it would be enought to get that out of the package management so that i can reinstall it
[07:13] <Taek> Frank81: are you using "sudo apt-get remove" ?
[07:13] <Frank81> i did a fail and added a deb wezzy repo
[07:14] <Frank81> ya i use sudo taek
[07:14] <Frank81> but i can do a sudo su -
[07:14] <Frank81> when you think it helps
[07:14] <Taek> Have you tried with "sudo apt-get purge package-name"
[07:14] <auronandace> Frank81: never mix debian repos with ubuntus, things will break badly
[07:15] <Taek> ^
[07:15] <Frank81> auronand good point
[07:15] <Frank81> oh i am so tiered :(
[07:15] <Frank81> why is it so hard to get a fast webserver running
[07:16] <aeon-ltd> Frank81: try nginx?
[07:16] <Frank81> maybe i simply re install the whole server
[07:16] <Frank81> aeon-ltd not fast enought and to bugy and to much changes
[07:16] <Alegreya> http://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/201307/page12.html
[07:16] <Frank81> many reason for don't using nginx
[07:16] <Alegreya> Frank81
[07:17] <Frank81> nginx is a fake at all apache-mpm-event is the same with fast cgi
[07:17] <Alegreya> are you sniff my connection?
[07:17] <Frank81> and is even faster with the right setting
[07:17] <Frank81> Alegreya: good point but i am far behind that ^^
[07:17] <Alegreya> python -m SimpleHTTPServer 8080 Serving HTTP on <IP_ADDRESS> port 8080
[07:18] <Frank81> i cant run such webservers with 5000 + hits per minut
[07:18] <Frank81> Alegreya and php has a httpd in too
[07:18] <Frank81> but realy thx for the nice trys
[07:18] <auronandace> Frank81: openbsd are in the process of replacing apache with nginx in their base system, if its good enough for openbsd then maybe your assessment of nginx needs to be re-evaluated
[07:19] <Frank81> auronand nope they simply make it simply
[07:19] <Frank81> i benchmarked the whole last week
[07:19] <Alegreya> http://www.howtoforge.com/installing-lighttpd-with-php5-php-fpm-and-mysql-support-on-ubuntu-13.04
[07:19] <Alegreya> you have been reading this?
[07:19] <Frank81> LightHTTPD Apache all versions and Configs ( Round about 15 usefull setups) nginx and even LiteSPEED httpd
[07:20] <Frank81> ya i am familary with that
[07:20] <Frank81> but any how i messed some stuff up
[07:20] <aeon-ltd> Frank81: are you running mysql while trying to remove it?
[07:20] <Frank81> maybe i need to reinstall whole server
[07:21] <Frank81> aeon-ltd: good point stoped it now but still same fail
[07:21] <Frank81> i repaired the repositorys so i now simply need to get it done to install the original packeges over the debian once
[07:23] <Sazpaimon> can anyone please confirm if the latest bcmwl drivers support the new 802.11ac cards?
[07:23] <Frank81> i need to get it out of the management
[07:23] <Frank81> thats the solution but i don't know how
[07:26] <kidx> I need help
[07:26] <lenz> Hey guys! I'd like to install a linux-based OS on a piece of hardware that I have here.. It's a JayBook 9901 (one of those tiny chinese netbooks) and it has a VIA M8505 processor, which is ARM-based. How do I find out which debian image I should download?
[07:27] <kidx> Steam keeps saying the driver needs to be updated i am on the latest
[07:27] <auronandace> !arm | lenz
[07:27] <kidx> how do i get the latest ati experimental
[07:27] <xyz> hi
[07:27] <Eva> hello, I have installed 13.04 and use two screens. I did set up put compiz plugin to enable window viewport switching via keyboard. When I start a gnome-terminal, open a new tab and then switch workspace, the gnome-terminal window is moved to my primary screen (remaining in the same workspace). Anyone experience something like this ?
[07:29] <aeon-ltd> kidx: like this? http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Quantal_Installation_Guide#Installing_Catalyst_Manually_.28from_AMD.2FATI.27s_site.29_BETA.2FEXPERIMENTAL
[07:30] <Taek> lenz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM#How_do_I_install_Ubuntu_on_my_device
[07:30] <aeon-ltd> kidx: or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve#AMD.2BAC8-ATI_Graphics
[07:30] <day> My onboard soundcard is a ALC889A and im having trouble with my mic. Its very quiet(already checked alsamixer etc..) and i get small random soundfragments (clicking,shirping etc.). Ive a similar problem with windows, if i use the build in drivers. I guess the linux driver has a similar bug :/
[07:30] <kidx> does tefanclub ubuntu installer work here
[07:31] <kidx> http://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/ubuntu-amd-catalyst-install
[07:32] <kidx> does that work on 12.04
[07:32] <kidx> and will it work for me i need somthing simple
[07:32] <dr_willis> its not officially  supported do we dont know
[07:33] <dr_willis> the  addational-driver tool is the standard way
[07:33] <kidx> yea but i am not geting the latest drivers
[07:33] <Taek> kidx you can grab the Official driver from amd directly, I've just done it myself not to long ago
[07:33] <dr_willis> !latest
[07:33] <kidx> it will work for steam and stuff there
[07:34] <kidx> what i get the beta
[07:34] <Taek> I was just playing TF2 about 10/15 minutes ago kidx
[07:34] <kidx> yea what drivers
[07:34] <Taek> using the latest beta driver for my setup
[07:34] <kidx> beta or no
[07:34] <kidx> ok
[07:34] <kidx> ill dl beta from amd
[07:35] <Taek> Please make sure to obtain the latest official driver from amd for your hardware.
[07:35] <Taek> Once you download it chmod +x file.run
[07:35] <Taek> double click on the file and select run in terminal
[07:36] <kidx> i am getting beta 13.6 is this correct
[07:36] <Taek> depends on your device kidz
[07:37] <Taek> is it a desktop or laptop kidx
[07:37] <ikonia> kidx: why are you not using the versions provided by ubuntus package manager ?
[07:38] <kidx> casue it not updating correctly
[07:38] <ikonia> updating what ?
[07:38] <kidx> and i was told to go to amd site to get the updated one
[07:39] <kidx> my drivers
[07:39] <ikonia> kidx: why ?
[07:39] <ikonia> what's wrong with the version in the ubuntu packages ?
[07:39] <kidx> i am just gon install it form amd
[07:39] <ikonia> why ?
[07:39] <ikonia> it has more risk/maintenance
[07:39] <kidx> i just told you the additional driver manager is not updatig my drivers to the laters grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[07:39] <Taek> Well for me ikonia, there's four options in the additional driver app, and neither one stats which version they are.
[07:40] <ikonia> kidx: why do you want the latest ?
[07:40] <ikonia> kidx: what's wrong with the version in the repo
[07:40] <Taek> Outdated maybe?
[07:40] <kidx> casue steam is asking for it
[07:40] <kidx> lol
[07:40] <kidx> keeps asking to update
[07:40] <ikonia> outdated ?? what does that even mean
[07:40] <kidx> ask steam
[07:40] <ikonia> kidx: what is steam asking for exactly
[07:41] <Taek> asking to update the video card driver.
[07:41] <kidx> to update my graphic drivers
[07:41] <kidx> lol
[07:41] <Taek> I just went thjrough it myself
[07:41] <Equinox3> some water to create steam?
[07:41] <ikonia> kidx: does it say a specific version, or does it say there is a problem ?
[07:41] <kidx> i am getting the amd driver from the site
[07:41] <Taek> It states a speciofic version
[07:41] <ikonia> Equinox3: not helpful
[07:41] <ikonia> Taek: is that version later than the version ubuntu packages provide
[07:41] <kidx> why cant i just get beta 13.6
[07:42] <ikonia> kidx: what's stopping you ?
[07:42] <kidx> how do i check
[07:42] <ikonia> check what ?
[07:42] <devmedooo> how can i boot ubuntu install from iso in windows 7???
[07:42] <Taek> I never checked the package manager, just used the additional driver app
[07:42] <Equinox3> kidx, where did you install steam from
[07:42] <ikonia> Taek: does that not list the version it's installing ?
[07:42] <Taek> and since that doesn't diosplay a version for each driver (4 listed) I went the save way
[07:42] <Taek> safe*
[07:42] <kidx> from a file called a deb
[07:42] <ikonia> Taek: are you running 13.04 ?
[07:42] <Taek> No
[07:42] <ikonia> Taek: 12.04 ?
[07:42] <Taek> 12.04
[07:42] <kidx> from a site called steampowered
[07:43] <kidx> yes 12.04
[07:43] <ikonia> Taek: be worth logging a bug for an LTS release to get the package updated to a compatible version if it's too old
[07:43] <Frank81> is there a way to make a package unregonized by the package manager
[07:43] <ikonia> Frank81: what do you mean ?
[07:43] <Frank81> ikonia used the package manager installed something
[07:43] <Taek> I just went to amd's website and downloaded and installed myself ikonia
[07:43] <Frank81> now packagemanager should think its not installed
[07:43] <Frank81> thats it
[07:44] <ikonia> Frank81: that's just foolish, if you used the package manager to install it, it will of course know it's installed (and should do, or it would be a bug)
[07:44] <Frank81> args
[07:44] <Frank81> i know what i am asking thx for trying
[07:44] <ikonia> Frank81: why don't you explain the problem, it may be clearer then
[07:44] <Taek> kidx do you know what your videocard is?
[07:44] <Frank81> ikonia
[07:44] <devmedooo> how can i install ubuntu from iso ( internal harddesk )
[07:45] <kidx> yes
[07:45] <Frank81> i made a 100% clear question
[07:45] <kidx> HD5770
[07:45] <Taek> desktop?
[07:45] <Frank81> it is foolish to re discuse why i ask that
[07:45] <Frank81> but thx
[07:45] <ikonia> Frank81: yes, and it's a foolish thing to request, to use the package manager to install software but not track that it's installed - that's the point of the package manager
[07:45] <devmedooo> how can i install ubuntu from iso ( internal harddisk )
[07:45] <Frank81> ikonia a package manager is software
[07:45] <Frank81> software has fails
[07:45] <Frank81> so i need to fix the fails
[07:45] <Taek> kidx it's a desktop right?
[07:46] <ikonia> Frank81: hang on, so you are saying it's installed something and it DOESN'T think it's installed
[07:46] <farbod> join #xbox
[07:46] <Frank81> nope
[07:46] <wilee-nilee> devmedooo, Do you have a linux install with grub now?
[07:46] <Frank81> that would be the goal
[07:46] <Frank81> to fix the problem
[07:46] <ikonia> Frank81: that is not a bug
[07:46] <farbod> join /#xbox
[07:46] <ikonia> Frank81: that is how it's expected to work
[07:46] <kidx> yes
[07:46] <kidx> desktop
[07:46] <ikonia> Frank81: if you install software via the package manager, the package manager has to track it
[07:46] <Frank81> ya
[07:46] <Frank81> and now he installed wrong software
[07:46] <Frank81> wrong depends and all that
[07:47] <Frank81> and now that needs to get fixed
[07:47] <Taek> kidx -> http://is.gd/8wN0A1
[07:47] <Frank81> the way to fix that is install the right packages again
[07:47] <ikonia> Frank81: ok, so a package has the wrong depencies ?
[07:47] <Frank81> over the existing once
[07:47] <ikonia> dependencies even
[07:47] <kidx> all i know is the aditional driver is not installing the upto date driver
[07:47] <Frank81> THE SOLUTION is making it´+
[07:47] <Frank81> sorry i can't talk about it
[07:47] <Frank81> makes me too angry
[07:47] <ikonia> Frank81: you can't talk about it ???
[07:47] <Taek> kidx the link for the latest of your card driver is at this link -> http://is.gd/8wN0A1
[07:47] <ikonia> Frank81: how can we help you then ?
[07:47] <devmedooo> wilee-nilee , what ? i don't know what is grub , the ubuntu version is 13.04 and i want make boot from iso file & along side windows 7
[07:47] <Frank81> ya else i punch my walls and break my heands
[07:47] <Frank81> hands and so on
[07:48] <ikonia> Frank81: is this on ubuntu or debian ?
[07:48] <Frank81> ubuntu
[07:48] <ikonia> Frank81: then why are you asking in #debian ?
[07:48] <Frank81>  coz ubuntu is debian based and here is no one that knows what i whant
[07:48] <ikonia> Frank81: explain the problem, I'm sure it can be fixed,
[07:48] <devmedooo> wilee-nile : here??
[07:49] <Frank81> ikonia i am sure too
[07:49] <Frank81> the problem is that i need to install the right package
[07:49] <ikonia> Frank81: what you want doesn't sound like a solution, but if you explain the problem, I'm sure it's not a problem to fix it
[07:49] <Frank81> but there is a wrong
[07:49] <Frank81> that can't be removed
[07:49] <devmedooo> wilee-nilee...
[07:49] <ikonia> Frank81: what's the software package ?
[07:49] <ikonia> Frank81: lets take a look
[07:49] <Frank81> lol mysql-server-5.5
[07:49] <wilee-nilee> devmedooo, you need it on a dvd or a usb then
[07:49] <ikonia> !info mysql-server
[07:50] <ikonia> Frank81: ok, so what version of ubuntu is this ?
[07:50] <Frank81> raring
[07:50] <Frank81> and the package manager is the same
[07:50] <mohawk> is it normal after install to have under "other devices" 151 Gb block device /dev/mapper/ubuntu-vg-root & 8.5 block device /dev/mapper/ubuntu-vg-swap_1 ?
[07:50] <Frank81> it don't matters
[07:50] <ikonia> Frank81: what ?
[07:50] <ikonia> Frank81: same as what ?
[07:50]  * Taek afk mode
[07:50] <Frank81> ikonia thx for trying to help me
[07:51] <devmedooo> can't i make it from hardware disk? + i tried make with the integrated wubi and i have error : " The request is not supported. "
[07:51] <ikonia> Frank81: hang on - just give me the info
[07:51] <Frank81> but i know you can't solve that
[07:51] <ikonia> what ???
[07:51] <Frank81> i am not as unskilled as you think
[07:51] <ikonia> you've not given me any info,
[07:51] <Lanser> Hey guys, I am installing Ubuntu thru a LiveUSB, and I am using unetbootin, but it's stuck at 15%, at filesystem.squashfs? Is 'ufw' blocking something?
[07:51] <Frank81> and the ways you try to ask makes me knowing that
[07:51] <ikonia> Frank81: what ???? I'm asking for the information to help you
[07:51] <Frank81> but you can't
[07:51] <Lionthinker> hi everyone, can someone help me with Ubuntu One? I'm having problems
[07:51] <Frank81> the right info would be a file path
[07:51] <kidx> now this is saying a previous driver was installed when i uninstalled it
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> Lanser: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[07:51] <Frank81> where he writes down the package infos
[07:52] <ikonia> Frank81: no-one can help you unless you give me the information
[07:52] <Frank81> of the installed packages
[07:52] <Frank81> nothing else
[07:52] <guest120280954> what is the name of the ntfs scan disk tool with ntfsprogs. need to lift some pics with a live disc but puter wasnt shut down right
[07:52] <Lanser> ActionParsnip: How can I do that?
[07:52] <kidx> now i am stuck
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | Lanser
[07:52] <kidx> wish this would work
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> Lanser: how did you know that the file you used was consistent and complete?
[07:52] <tracekill> Huh. First time I've actually had Ubuntu not be able to find my wireless adapter (Intel).
[07:52] <devmedooo> i have a problem installing ubuntu i hope any supporter interseted help me........
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> devmedooo: just ask
[07:52] <Frank81> or a command to make it simply not manage the package anymore
[07:52] <ikonia> Frank81: just explain the problem
[07:53] <ikonia> Frank81: the package manager will NOT ignore a package
[07:53] <devmedooo> i tried install ubuntu 13.04 with the integrated wubi and i have error : " The request is not supported. "
[07:53] <Lanser> ActionParsnip: I torrented it.
[07:53] <ikonia> Frank81: so if you give us the info, I'm sure we can fix it
[07:53] <Frank81> ikonia then re install is the way i need to go
[07:53] <Frank81> but i think the package manger simply writes a file
[07:53] <kidx> i cant get the video drivers installed
[07:53] <Frank81> thats it
[07:53] <ikonia> Frank81: so the package is mysql-server
[07:53] <Frank81> but ok then i simply start my migration to aws
[07:53] <devmedooo> ActionParsnip:i tried install ubuntu 13.04 with the integrated wubi and i have error : " The request is not supported. "
[07:54] <ikonia> Frank81: you're running ubuntu 13.04, correct ?
[07:54] <Frank81> and re install whole stack
[07:54] <Frank81> ikonia ya i was running that
[07:54] <Lionthinker> anyone know things about Ubuntu sync function?
[07:54] <ikonia> Frank81: are you not running it now ?
[07:54] <ikonia> Frank81: what are you running now ?
[07:54] <Frank81> but now i think for a other linux maybe
[07:54] <kidx> i tried to installl the latest driver but i cant get them to install
[07:54] <ikonia> Frank81: fine, ok, we can't help you, you don't want to give informaiton
[07:54] <Frank81> ubuntu is good for desktop
[07:54] <ikonia> Frank81: please stop asking for help unless you are willing to give the information you are being asked for
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> Lanser: still worth checking, torents have good checking :). You could try updating the installer app in the live cd to see if it helps
[07:54] <Frank81> ikonia no problem
[07:55] <devmedooo> hey , 2 supporters not answering me , plzz
[07:55] <dr_willis> i thought wubi was dropped in 13.04
[07:55] <Frank81> i am not going to ask anything about that anymore
[07:55] <Lanser> Frank81: Why are you being dramatic over support channels?
[07:55] <Equinox3> devmedooo: whats the prob
[07:55] <Lanser> ikonia: He's trolling.
[07:55] <devmedooo> i tried install ubuntu 13.04 with the integrated wubi and i have error : " The request is not supported. "
[07:55] <kidx> can any one help me at all
[07:55] <Frank81> Lanser coz i sayed the problem here
[07:55] <Frank81> even made a pastbin
[07:55] <Equinox3> from an iso?
[07:55] <Lanser> apply your question, kidx
[07:55] <ikonia> Lanser: let it go, he's been told not to ask for help unless he's willing to give info
[07:55] <wilee-nilee> !patience > devmedooo
[07:55] <Equinox3> did you extract that iso
[07:55] <ikonia> he wo'nt give info - so won't be allowed to discuss it
[07:56] <devmedooo> ok wilee-niee
[07:56] <devmedooo> nilee^
[07:56] <kidx> I cant get the latest driver working i tried to do it manually but it tells me another driver is installed?
[07:56] <devmedooo> now wubi.exe is in iso file
[07:56] <wilee-nilee> devmedooo, Do you have to install a wubi, it is basically not supported and can be troublesome.
[07:56] <Equinox3> right so you have to either the whole iso file to a folder
[07:57] <Equinox3> or use something like unetbootin to mount iso to a flash drive
[07:57] <devmedooo> so , how can i reun ubuntu alongside ( without losing ) windows 7?
[07:57] <dr_willis> kidx:  remove any other fglrx drivers from the repos first
[07:57] <devmedooo> run^
[07:57] <kidx> how do i dothis
[07:57] <kidx> i am fairly new
[07:57] <kidx> welll to ubuntu
[07:57] <Equinox3> devmedooo: get unetbootin, and a 8gb flash drive. use unetbootin to make a bootable iso
[07:57] <dr_willis> kidx with the addational-drivers tool
[07:58] <wilee-nilee> devmedooo, Make a dvd or usb with the ISO, use the windows disk manager to resize it leaving a unallocated space and install ubuntu there from the booted media
[07:58] <kidx> already did this
[07:58] <Taek> kidx open dash home and type additional
[07:58] <Equinox3> then boot into ubuntu live, and start installation with side by side option
[07:58] <kidx> show none installed
[07:58] <devmedooo> how wilee-nilee??
[07:58] <dr_willis> kidx:  did you reboot?
[07:58] <kidx> yup
[07:58] <dr_willis> no idea then
[07:58] <Equinox3> devmedooo: search for unetbootin
[07:59] <Taek> does it show any drivers in the additional drivers app kidx?
[07:59] <wilee-nilee> devmedooo, I just said how I'm not sure I can be more clear, you might look for more info to get orientated.
[07:59] <kidx> how do i look for that
[07:59] <devmedooo> Equinox3: My Flash Drive Is Bootable with win8 , so i can't add ubuntu.... , is there a way i boot ubuntu from iso file ?
[07:59] <Taek> open the additional drivers app
[08:00] <Taek> dash home -> Additional Drivers
[08:00] <kidx> all i see is three things there
[08:00] <Lionthinker> hi, I have a sync problem for Ubuntu one?
[08:00] <Equinox3> devmedooo: you can't boot from an iso file
[08:00] <Taek> click on each one until the [Activate] button turns to deactivate, then click on the button
[08:00] <kidx> I tried to install the experimental and nothing its out dated casue steam asks for it to be updated
[08:01] <kidx> they are all deactivated
[08:01] <Equinox3> you can create win8 bootable usb later, if you want to run ubuntu you'll have to format it and mount the iso on it
[08:01] <Lionthinker> ubuntu one, sync problem files don't correlate
[08:01] <day> whats exactly the difference between ac'97 and high definition audio? It looks like realtek provides both for the ALC889A
[08:01] <Taek> Not sure then kidx
[08:01] <kidx> ill try again
[08:01] <Equinox3> devmedooo: or burn a cd with the iso
[08:01] <Taek> kidx: Unless you manually installed one prior
[08:02] <devmedooo> equinox3 : with any program?
[08:02] <Equinox3> yes, like poweriso
[08:02] <kidx> ok is the driver on the site upto date
[08:02] <Taek> On the website, yes
[08:02] <kidx> the additional app is not working right drivers are out dated for me
[08:02] <kidx> ill reboot now and try again
[08:03] <Taek> Okay
[08:05] <wilee-nilee> Equinox3, ubuntu wont fit on a cd
[08:06] <Equinox3> wilee-nilee: ah right. DVD :P
[08:06] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[08:06] <Lionthinker> Can someone help me with sync problems of Ubuntu one
[08:07] <dr_willis> Lionthinker:  there is the #ubuntu-one channel    i belive
[08:07] <Taek> I don't use Ubuntu One - I have my own storage system
[08:07] <stub> day: On my motherboard, I select which API the onboard sound uses in the BIOS.
[08:08] <day> stub: oh boy...that might change everything.... i didnt know thats possible :/ i just thought soundcard needs a specific driver done
[08:09] <Lionthinker> dr_willis, there's no one there
[08:10] <Taek> Lionthinker: Sure there is
[08:11] <Lionthinker> taek help..
[08:11] <Taek> Is there a channel for skype
[08:11] <Taek> Lionthinker: I don't use Ubuntu One - I have my own system I use.
[08:11] <Equinox3> should be
[08:11] <Taek> Which is not fully implemented yet.
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> Taek: if you are having issues in skype under ubuntu you can ask here
[08:12] <Lanser> Taek: what is wrong with skype?
[08:12] <Taek> Skype sucks.
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> Lanser: everything :)
[08:12] <dr_willis> other then the fact MS owns it now?
[08:12] <Lanser> ActionParsnip: oh you
[08:12] <Taek> Anyhow, any possible way to hide offline users?
[08:12] <Lanser> dr_willis: oh yes.
[08:12] <Taek> In the skype contact list that is.
[08:12] <Lanser> dr_willis: also, M$ has ganged up with NSA so I wouldn't recommend anyone to use Skype.
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> Taek: http://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/Hide-Offline-Contacts/td-p/67920
[08:12] <Equinox3> lol Taek, skype doesn't work on mine. some ia32-lib dependencies cannot be installed
[08:13] <Taek> ActionParsnip: that's why I opted to run 32bit :D
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> Taek: www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJMs4RhrEls
[08:13] <Lanser> 32bit>64bt, Taek.
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> Taek: the 64bit releases are multiarch so it will install, just uses a lot of extra space
[08:13] <Equinox3> why is that Lanser?
[08:13] <Lanser> Equinox3, I'll have Google explain that to you.
[08:13] <ikonia> Lanser: no don't
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> Taek: http://portal2portal.blogspot.co.uk/2010/10/skype-on-linux-hiding-off-line-contacts.html
[08:13] <ikonia> Lanser: you explain it