[00:36]  * apachelogger blinks
[00:57] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: it allows for Muon to provide notification for distros not using k-n-h (Debian springs to mind)
[00:58] <JontheEchidna> For the usecase of "no Muon anywhere", I think that's probably a rare usecase.
[00:58] <JontheEchidna> Both the reboot and hook functionality of k-n-h currently rely on stamps created by stuff in the update-notifier-common package
[00:59] <JontheEchidna> and muon-notifier is basically a frontend for update-notifier
[00:59] <JontheEchidna> with the reasoning being that if you don't have an update-notifier frontend installed and just use apt-get, you'd get no notifications anyways
[05:14]  * JontheEchidna takes the quantal dive
[11:35] <Mamarok> the title is misleading: apparently Google employees use Kubuntu: http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2012/05/how-google-developers-use-ubuntu.html
[11:38] <Tm_T> Mamarok: Kubuntu is Ubuntu
[11:39] <Mamarok> yeah, sort of, but the author tries to actually make it sound like only the cook uses Kubuntu
[12:35] <Tm_T> bah
[12:35] <Tm_T> so if one installs kubuntu-active, there's no normal kubuntu desktop anymore
[12:42] <apachelogger> Tm_T: yah
[12:42] <apachelogger> Tm_T: lolwut?
[12:58] <Tm_T> apachelogger: yes
[12:59] <Tm_T> when I try to login to plasma-desktop, it gives me active
[12:59] <Tm_T> and only active
[12:59] <apachelogger> Oo
[12:59] <Tm_T> even when I have only installed active, never used it
[12:59] <Tm_T> I have got this on two system now
[13:00] <apachelogger> sounds unintended
[13:00] <Tm_T> yup
[13:00] <apachelogger> /usr/share/xessions/plasma-desktop.desktop
[13:00] <apachelogger> or some such file
[13:00] <apachelogger> what does it contain?
[13:01] <Tm_T> kde-plasma.desktop has Exec=/usr/bin/startkde
[13:03] <apachelogger> and the active one?
[13:04] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:04] <Tm_T> apachelogger: has startactive, as it should
[13:09] <yofel> rbelem_: ^
[13:10] <Tm_T> I haven't been able to figure out what and where is going wrong
[13:11] <Tm_T> there's no plasma-active on any autostart folder that should affect
[13:14] <Tm_T> almost like /usr/share/plasma-active-default-settings/share/autostart/ is read, but why, and where
[13:16] <apachelogger> hm
[13:16] <yofel> Tm_T: what are the contents of /etc/kde4rc ?
[13:16] <apachelogger> Tm_T: echo $KDEDIRS
[13:16] <Tm_T> apachelogger: ahha
[13:16] <Tm_T> /usr/share/kubuntu-active-default-settings/:/usr/share/plasma-active-default-settings/:/usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/
[13:17] <apachelogger> ohhhoooo
[13:17] <apachelogger> oh well, that almost makes sense ^^
[13:18] <Tm_T> where that is defined? because it's like that while I'm on unity
[13:18] <apachelogger> ohhhh
[13:18] <apachelogger> probably an xession file
[13:18] <apachelogger> which explains the problem
[13:18] <Tm_T> uhhuh
[13:20] <Tm_T> yofel: prefixes=/usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/
[13:20] <yofel> then it's probably something as apachelogger said
[13:22] <Tm_T> yup, but couldn't locate any xsession file that do define it
[13:24] <Tm_T> aah
[13:24] <Tm_T> /etc/X11/Xsession.d/51kubuntu-active:  export KDEDIRS=/usr/share/kubuntu-active-default-settings/:/usr/share/plasma-active-default-settings/:$KDEDIRS
[13:24] <Tm_T> I'm blind for not noticing that sooner
[13:25] <Tm_T> that file should be read only when plasma-active is the session, am I right?
[13:25] <Tm_T> now it's read every time
[13:26] <Tm_T> so $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP should be checked before setting anything else on there
[13:28] <Tm_T> or $DESKTOP_SESSION rather
[13:30] <apachelogger> no
[13:30] <apachelogger> it shouldn't be set through xession
[13:30] <apachelogger> that doesn't make sense for active
[13:33] <Tm_T> right
[13:33] <Tm_T> where it should be set? I assume on startactive or some similar script
[13:38] <apachelogger> either there or the Exec of the desktop file
[13:39] <Tm_T> oaight, will move stuff to startactive here and see how it goes
[13:45] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdelibs] Philip Muškovac * 408 * debian/ (11 files) update symbol files for gcc 4.7
[13:45] <Tm_T> startactive script is nicely small btw
[13:46] <yofel> the contents are weird though..
[13:46] <Tm_T> it just launched dbus and then startactive.bin, that's it
[13:46] <Tm_T> launches too
[13:46] <yofel> it *kills* dbus before that
[13:48] <Tm_T> yup
[13:48] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/meta-kde] Philip Muškovac * 36 * debian/changelog releasing version 5:71~pre15ubuntu13
[13:49] <Tm_T> it's not first time I see something like that done with dbus
[14:00] <Tm_T> eh, unity-greeter doesn't show active as available session
[14:00] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/oxygen-icons] Philip Muškovac * 98 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1
[14:08] <apachelogger> lol
[14:11] <Tm_T> brargh
[14:11] <Tm_T> I'm not amused anymore
[14:12] <Tm_T> I see no reason why it wouldn't show it
[14:26] <Tm_T> no
[14:26] <Tm_T> plasma-active isn't on the list now at all
[14:26] <Tm_T> not even with lightdm-kde-greeter
[14:33] <Tm_T> ah, now it's there
[14:33] <Tm_T> not my day...
[14:38] <Tm_T> and not it's not there
[14:43] <Tm_T> now
[15:06] <apachelogger> perhaps the tryexec fails?
[15:06] <apachelogger> which would make the file unlisted
[15:06] <apachelogger> however raising the question why the tryexec fails
[15:11] <Tm_T> apachelogger: it works now
[15:11] <Tm_T> prolly was something of my own doings, I just reverted everything and redid with caution /:
[15:12] <Tm_T> but yeah, placing those KDEDIRS exports to startactive does the job just fine
[15:32] <eagles0513875> hey guys can someone take a look 998630 i dunno why its happening or causing it would be great to get some guidance on how to fix it if possible.
[15:32] <eagles0513875> bug 998630
[15:53] <eagles0513875> yofel: what exactly is causing the above bug of mine?
[15:54] <yofel> from what I see, some dbus call in the menubar widget crashes. I don't have time to dig into dbus in c++ now though
[15:54] <eagles0513875> yofel: does that mean its upstream kde issue or something kubuntu specific?
[15:55] <yofel> as a workaround remove the widget
[15:55] <yofel> not sure
[15:55] <eagles0513875> one thing i do notice is that after the crash i get a black screen with the drop box box in the middle
[15:55] <eagles0513875> yofel: the problem is this is the netbook version and i need the menus at the top
[15:55] <yofel> well, removing the widget *should* make the application menubar appear again
[15:56] <yofel> it's just a matter of where the menu is
[15:56] <eagles0513875> yofel: oddly enough first time it crashes and after i close the bug reporter it comes back on its own
[15:56] <eagles0513875> 2nd time it doesnt
[15:56] <yofel> hm
[15:57] <eagles0513875> whats bad this affects 12.04 and 12.10 so far in the sense of netbook users
[15:57] <yofel> maybe it doesn't wait long enough for the dbus interface to start? Dunno
[15:57] <eagles0513875> not sure im a novice to all of this hence why the questions for guidance
[16:18] <CIA-42> [qapt] Jonathan Thomas<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* debian/ (15 files in 3 dirs) (log message trimmed)
[16:18] <CIA-42> * Merge with Debian, remaining changes: - Keep dependency on a polkit frontend
[16:18] <CIA-42> for libqapt-runtime - Keep cherry-picked patches from the 1.3 branch * Team
[16:21] <JontheEchidna> This new Qt Creator 2.5 is fancy
[16:24] <Darkwing> JontheEchidna: Fancy good?
[16:24] <JontheEchidna> Todo plugin <3 http://i.imgur.com/gSs8O.png
[16:24] <JontheEchidna> new welcome page: http://i.imgur.com/KxBfC.png
[16:24] <JontheEchidna> :D
[16:25] <eagles0513875> hey Darkwing and JontheEchidna :D
[16:25] <JontheEchidna> hi
[16:30] <Darkwing> JontheEchidna: That is sweeeeeeeeeeet.
[16:30] <yofel> nice :)
[16:32] <Darkwing> Okay, There are going to be a few emails from me today...
[16:32] <Darkwing> Updates from UDS as well as call for nominations and schedule for the Council elections.
[17:06] <jussi> wooohoo, the cook uses Kubuntu... :D http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2012/05/how-google-developers-use-ubuntu.html
[17:09] <yofel> the last paragraph about unity and kde is unclear - is he talking about users not liking change in unity or kde?
[17:09] <Riddell> in unity
[17:10] <Riddell> he explicity mentioned that the kde users are looking forward to the precise update
[17:11] <yofel> btw. did anyone try the NTP time update in the date and time settings? I had 2 people tell me it crashes (bug 998551), but I can't reproduce that
[17:13] <Riddell> no crash but I do get a nasty error diaogue saying "Unable to authenticate/execute the action: 6, "
[17:14] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kactivities] Philip Muškovac * 16 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1
[17:15] <Riddell> I'm going off irc for a couple of weeks in a hope to prevent burnout, e-mail or text/phone me if you need me
[17:15] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-baseapps] Philip Muškovac * 215 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1
[17:16] <yofel> Riddell: sure thing, have a good time :)
[17:20] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdepimlibs] Philip Muškovac * 168 * debian/ (10 files) * Switch boost build-dep to 1.49 * Update symbol files for gcc 4.7
[17:29] <yofel> bulldog98: please don't forget to add any created files to bzr before you commit (not-installed was missing from smokegen)
[17:31] <yofel> bulldog98: and please use present tense in your changelog entries
[17:35] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/marble] Philip Muškovac * 34 * debian/ (changelog libmarblewidget13.symbols) Update symbol files for gcc 4.7
[17:38] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkipi] Philip Muškovac * 35 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1
[17:41] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/smokegen] Philip Muškovac * 29 * debian/ (not-installed changelog) releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1
[17:44] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-wallpapers] Philip Muškovac * 31 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1
[17:48] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkdeedu] Philip Muškovac * 31 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1
[17:52] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/okular] Philip Muškovac * 29 * debian/ (changelog libokularcore1abi1.symbols) Update symbol files for gcc 4.7
[18:00] <Darkwing> bug: 998630
[18:00] <Darkwing> hmmm....
[18:00] <Darkwing> bug 998630
[18:08] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkdcraw] Philip Muškovac * 35 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1
[18:08] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdegames] Philip Muškovac * 154 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1
[18:11] <Tm_T> apachelogger: filed a bug about the plasma-active issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-active-default-settings/+bug/998846
[18:17] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkexiv2] Philip Muškovac * 36 * debian/ (changelog libkexiv2-10.symbols) Update symbol files for gcc 4.7
[18:19] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/blinken] Philip Muškovac * 26 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1
[18:22] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libksane] Philip Muškovac * 28 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1
[18:32] <yofel> shiiii....
[18:33] <yofel> libboost-graph1.49-dev [required by kdepimlibs] is in universe for quantal
[18:35]  * yofel reverts
[18:39] <yofel> ScottK: or do you know until when that'll be in main?
[18:43] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/smokeqt] Philip Muškovac * 24 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1
[19:03] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kate] Philip Muškovac * 62 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1
[19:10] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-runtime] Philip Muškovac * 274 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1
[19:11] <bulldog98> yofel: yes I think I forgot present tense in the first changelogs, but later I did present (and I don’t remember missing not-installed) :(
[19:12] <yofel> np, I noticed it was right in another one.
[19:16] <bulldog98> yofel: it’s ok if you point out, if I do something wrong, cause it’s the only way I’ll find out about what I did wrong and that I did something wrong :)
[19:29] <bulldog98> yofel: http://forum.kubuntu-de.org/index.php?topic=16543.new#new  we may have to patch the akonadi settings, to make sure you have that installed first
[19:30] <yofel> likely, file a bug
[19:32] <bulldog98> against akonadi or something else?
[19:32] <yofel> against whatever provides that backup feature I would say. (I didn't know that akonadi has something like that yet)
[19:34] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/analitza] Philip Muškovac * 13 * debian/ (changelog libanalitza4abi1.symbols) Update symbol files for gcc 4.7
[19:34] <shadeslayer> erk
[19:34] <shadeslayer> new gcc
[19:34] <yofel> yeah,
[19:34] <yofel> increadibly fun already
[19:34] <shadeslayer> have fun :D
[19:34] <shadeslayer> hehe
[19:39] <bulldog98> yofel: bug #998868
[19:40] <yofel> thx
[19:41] <shadeslayer> yofel: any interesting build failiures?
[19:42] <yofel> so far only kdepimlibs being in dep-wait as boost 1.49 binaries are in universe
[19:42] <yofel> otherwise there's only symbol shuffle
[19:42] <shadeslayer> ah :)
[19:43] <JontheEchidna> some of the boost libraries already seem to have been promoted: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/104274870/buildlog_ubuntu-quantal-amd64.akonadi_1.7.2-0ubuntu2_BUILDING.txt.gz
[19:43] <JontheEchidna> I'd guess that a few weren't promoted, for whateverreason
[19:45] <bulldog98> yofel: I’ll have a look at that now
[19:45] <yofel> bulldog98: at what?
[19:45] <bulldog98> bug #998868
[19:45] <yofel> ah ok, thanks
[19:51] <bulldog98> yofel: was it in kde-wallpapers where you did an simular patch?
[19:56] <yofel> bulldog98: no, or you don't mean me. What are you trying to do? (note that bzip2 should already be installed, ubuntu-minimal depends on that)
[19:56] <bulldog98> yofel: yeah was kde-workspace
[21:02] <bulldog98> yofel: that’s the patch atm: http://paste.kde.org/477422
[21:03] <yofel> bulldog98: line 9 is obviously wrong, for the rest I'm too tired right now
[21:28] <bulldog98> yofel: :)


[00:00] <souldessin> shayf what is the issue you are having
[00:00] <shayf> i cant login to root
[00:00] <shayf> i cant use sudo or su
[00:00] <shayf> system is saying that none of the users on it exist
[00:00] <shayf> souldessin
[00:05] <souldessin> shayf are you using `su` or `su -`?
[00:06] <shayf> i cant, says this: su: user root does not exist or the user entry does not contain all the required fields
[00:07] <souldessin> But are you using the hyphen or not?
[00:09] <Maik> shayf: please do not cross post, either keep support here or in #ubuntu but not both
[00:10] <shayf> im tryin to get support from 10 different places Maik
[00:10] <shayf> i need the help asap
[00:10] <Maik> shayf: please read the rules and guidelines
[00:11] <souldessin> shayf worst case, you can boot live and use chroot to recover.
[00:11] <Maik> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines?action=show&redirect=IrcGuidelines shayf
[00:18] <tomreyn> botting to recovery nad dropping to a shell should work, i think
[00:18] <tomreyn> ah, not here
[08:56] <adac> hm, my hosting provider says, that the ethernet interface should be eno1. However in my ubuntu server 18.04 only ens4 does appear
[08:57] <adac> Any ideas what could cause that? I#m also not able to bring up this eno1
[08:58] <adac> via "sudo ip link set eno1 up"
[09:00] <oerheks> eno1 is onboard nic, ens4 is a nic in a 'slot', in this case slot 4
[09:01] <oerheks> https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.net-naming-scheme.html
[09:02] <adac> oerheks, ok I see thanks.
[09:02] <oerheks> one cannot replace 'enoX'
[09:02] <adac> Could it be a BIOS thingy in comnination with new kernel, that I cannot see this eno1?
[09:02] <oerheks> no idea, if this happend last 24 hrs, it might have to do with the kernel update yesterday, indeed
[09:03] <oerheks> if so, file a bugreport
[09:03] <adac> Actually it is longer then 24 hours. On Sunday I had to get a disk replaced in my raid. When the server should have come up again, the network didn#t
[09:04] <adac> after some debugging it seems, that eno1 was gone
[09:04] <oerheks> ai
[09:05] <adac> I'm in contact with my hosting provider. Lets see what he says. This is an incredible time consuming thing for me debugging network things :D
[09:07] <oerheks> oke, good luck, keep us posted
[09:10] <adac> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1287652/eno1-interface-has-disappeared-ethernet-unclaimed
[09:11] <adac> this guys card was broken. that f course would explain things
[11:51] <ahasenack> good morning
[12:03] <memoryleak> hello ahasenack
[12:03] <ahasenack> hello memoryleak
[12:10] <athos> good morning!
[12:15] <ahasenack> hi athos
[12:45] <utkarsh2102> athos: hey, since you did the latest nss merge, do you have any idea about LP: #1960736?
[12:45] <utkarsh2102> it's a very interesting bug but I don't know where to begin with honestly
[12:45] <utkarsh2102> any clue?
[12:53] <athos> utkarsh2102: I'd start by asking for a reproducer from the user since it is being triggered by google chrome. Then, with a propere reproducer, we could start debugging the issue. For instance, do we know if that chrome build was built with a libnss3 version compatible with what he has installed in his system?
[12:56] <athos> utkarsh2102: I'd mark it as incomplete until he could provide us with a reproducer or at least the origin and version of that chrome package
[13:07] <utkarsh2102> athos: good point, thanks!
[13:07] <utkarsh2102> \o/
[15:13] <HollyW00d> Would anyone recommend Ubuntu Server over Debian for a WordPress site or vice versa?
[15:15] <sdeziel> HollyW00d: nginx/apache2, mysql and php are all in 'main' on Ubuntu so you get that part covered for security ... that leaves "only" Wordpress to keep up to date ;)
[15:16] <HollyW00d> Got it
[15:50] <sergiodj> ahasenack: hi.  re. bileto: no, it just built the packages but never run their autopkgtests.  I ended up running them by hand
[15:54] <bryyce> good morning
[15:59]  * kanashiro waves
[16:00] <bryyce> HollyW00d, often people will install web apps from upstream, so distro choice is just for getting the required base elements needed
[16:02] <ahasenack> sergiodj: yep, my experience exactly
[16:04] <sdeziel> I would recommend *not* to pull wordpress from Ubuntu archives as it is terribly outdated
[16:07] <utkarsh2102> HollyW00d: Debian LTS and stable releases keep an updated version of WordPress, though.
[16:49] <zerosum> hey all, I have simple bash script that executes within roots crontab /etc/crontab and I have it log to a log file called backups.log but I'm seeing duplicate entries per run and I have no idea why.. what am I missing? here's my script: https://bpa.st/NCFA
[16:54] <ahasenack> how are you calling it in the crontab? Maybe you are redirecting to the backup file in /etc/crontab already
[16:54] <ahasenack> zerosum: ^
[16:56] <ahasenack> although it looks like the script is silent
[17:04] <ahasenack> rbasak: around for a quick review? Seed change: https://code.launchpad.net/~ahasenack/ubuntu-seeds/+git/platform/+merge/415918
[17:05] <ahasenack> I'll have two more later
[17:09] <rbasak> ahasenack: approved, thanks!
[17:09] <ahasenack> thanks
[17:13] <rfm> zerosum, you null backups.log at the beginning of the script where the current directory is /root, then cd to /opt/netbox and append to backups.log there.  so you're nulling /root/backups.log and continually appending to /opt/netbox/backups.log.  This is why I like to use absolute paths in scripts...
[17:15] <zerosum> rfm wow.. that explains it. Thank you
[19:21] <adac> On ubuntu server, if I want to run gedit via ssh -X is there something else I have to setup on the server to make this work
[19:21] <adac> I get: Gtk-WARNING **: 20:20:55.663: cannot open display:
[19:21] <adac> but on other servers I got this working
[19:22] <bryyce> adac, DISPLAY=:0 ?
[19:22] <ahasenack> you might need some X package installed on the server
[19:22] <ahasenack> libs or something
[19:23] <bryyce> ahasenack, presumably if gedit is installed on the server all necessaries should be present.  libxcb is probably the key one in this case
[19:24] <ahasenack> ah, I missed that. yeah, that would make sense
[19:24] <bryyce> ssh has some configurables
[19:24] <bryyce>  /etc/ssh/ssh_config - ForwardX11
[19:26] <bryyce>  /etc/ssh/sshd_config - X11Forwarding
[19:26] <adac> bryyce, yes that one is enabled
[19:26] <adac> oh ok in both on the server?
[19:26] <bryyce> former is client-side, other is server-side
[19:27] <adac> alright yes. Yeah both is st up correctly
[19:28] <adac> Gtk-WARNING **: 20:28:09.491: cannot open display: :0
[19:28] <adac> when setting DISPLAY0:0
[19:32] <bryyce> how about DISPLAY=20:20:55.663:0 gedit ?
[19:33] <bryyce> sorry, that should probably be DISPLAY=20.55.663:0 gedit
[19:35] <rbasak> adac: are you using shared connections via control sockets? I do that and find that -X only works if it was used on the master connection. To work around, I use "ssh -Snone -X ..."
[19:35] <adac> bryyce, what is this numer?
[19:35] <adac> number
[19:36] <bryyce> adac, DISPLAY=<hostname|ip-addr>:0 is the syntax.  0:0 is "default display on local host"
[19:37] <bryyce> adac, maybe it'd help to understand better what your objective is?
[19:37] <adac> rbasak, nopw does not work for me just tried
[19:37] <adac> bryyce, thanks
[19:37] <rbasak> Maybe the server has X11 forwarding disabled?
[19:37] <rbasak> Do you control the other end?
[19:39] <akaridelsur> good morning, could you give me a hand with my server, it is in ubuntu and I have problems with the ssl certificates
[19:40] <rbasak> !ask | akaridelsur
[19:41] <adac> rbasak, yes I do
[19:41] <adac> how can I check this?
[19:42] <rbasak> adac: see the sshd_config manpage and /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[19:42] <akaridelsur> I summarize, I have an implementation of ubuntu with odoo, all perfect but when updating Nginx the certificate did not get it to work, and I tried to rebuild it and not what it works
[19:45] <jhutchins> akaridelsur: Was there a guide you were following to set up odoo?
[19:45] <adac> some say I could try to allow all hosts via xhost +
[19:45] <adac> but that gives me :D
[19:46] <adac> xhost +
[19:46] <adac> xhost:  unable to open display ""
[19:48] <akaridelsur> yes, follow a guide, the issue happened to me when letsencrypt disabled the ssl certificates and I was not able to get the certificates with cerbot
[19:55] <leftyfb> akaridelsur: use letsencrypt to re-issue a new certificate
[19:58] <adac> ok I had to install xauth first
[19:59] <adac> then re-login via ssh
[19:59] <adac> then xhhost+
[19:59] <adac> xhost+
[19:59] <adac> then it wirks
[19:59] <adac> works
[19:59] <adac> sorry for the typos it made me exhausted this problem :D
[19:59] <bryyce> ah yes forgot about xhost +
[20:00] <bryyce> adac, congrats, hope it is working well enough
[20:00] <adac> bryyce, but that didnt work either before intsalling xauth and re-login via ssh
[20:00] <adac> yeah hope so too
[20:00] <adac> looks good
[20:03] <bryyce> adac, just be aware X11 over ssh does have some security considerations, so wouldn't recommend it for a production environment
[20:03] <leftyfb> adac: why not just use vim, emacs or nano to edit files?


[09:27] <guiverc> i went into uwn doc, didn't find any needing summaries - looks done :)  (or I need stronger glasses)
[12:38] <oerheks> yay, FFMPEY "Wu" 4.0 http://ffmpeg.org/index.html#pr4.0
[12:38] <oerheks> FFMPEG*
[14:42] <krytarik> ...Wait, with the current highest role of editor for any of us on the Fridge's WP, we can't even change the widgets on the site!?
[15:04] <krytarik> (I merely wanted to see if we could add button linked to the general @ubuntu_news Twitter account alongside the RSS one to the Subscribe widget.)
[15:30] <pleia2> no, we just submit tickets when we want something changed, in reality it's pretty rare
[15:31] <krytarik> That really makes me want to cry now. :D
[15:32] <pleia2> now that you're the boss you're welcome to talk to them about opening access, but I chose my battles with Canonical IS and this one wasn't worth it to me ;)
[15:33] <krytarik> Yeah, I hear you.
[21:06] <Bashing-om> memory leaks fixes in 18.04 LTS: The probable fix is in . https://feaneron.com/2018/04/20/the-infamous-gnome-shell-memory-leak/ . Do we re-write the original summary or replace it ?
[21:49] <Wild_Man> krytarik, Bashing-om this is pretty important, it just came out today https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GNOME-Shell-Memory-Leak-Fix do we want to add it?
[21:50] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Awaiting response drom above " memory leaks fixes in 18.04 LTS: The probable fix is in . https://feaneron.com/2018/04/20/the-infamous-gnome-shell-memory-leak/ . Do we re-write the original summary or replace it ?" .
[21:51] <krytarik> You two figure it out! :P
[21:53] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, I would replace it
[21:54] <Wild_Man> The new link is a much more concise article and easier to read imo
[21:54] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: I am all for adding an editorial note to what we have, to see an additional summary .
[21:56] <Bashing-om> woNot doing the backgraound research .. but feaneron seems to be the project leader .
[21:59] <krytarik> Oh btw, I'd still like someone other than myself (conflict of interest) to work over the Studio reboot summary 1.) so the currently only sentence makes more sense, and 2.) hopefully get together an additional one. :)
[22:00] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, I do not find the link you posted, I thought the gnome leak was published in the 523?
[22:04] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: 524: https://community.ubuntu.com/t/help-test-memory-leaks-fixes-in-18-04-lts/5251 // my new source: https://feaneron.com/2018/04/20/the-infamous-gnome-shell-memory-leak/ .
[22:04] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, I guess you can use the link that you want to use, it hurts my eyes trying to read the small print
[22:05] <Wild_Man> Okay, I found that one by Will Cooke but I was looking for one with the link you posted above.
[22:06] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: I will also look at your new link - the fix does need to be made public . Just. do we add an editorial note to what we have ?
[22:07] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: My thought is not to take away from the effort that our community provided .
[22:07] <Wild_Man> I think that will be fine, we do not want to diminish the work that will has done
[22:09] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: A bit out of the norm to editorialize, but is such a thing acceptable practice ?
[22:09] <Wild_Man> From what I have seen everything else is looking good, I am still dealing with a problem user on the forum that is causing trouble on FB also since last night so I am going to be busy with that for some time
[22:10] <krytarik> As to what source to use, I think if you first heard of it from phoronix, which I think is the case, it's fair to reference it and mention that it links to the original post.
[22:10] <Wild_Man> I am not sure how sure exactly what you plan to write I would just add the leak is not fixed and include the link and see what others have to say
[22:11] <Wild_Man> scratched not
[22:11] <Wild_Man> I need to put out fires
[22:12] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: While here ... xfcw has released their updates . Are there constraints on how many aricles are presented .. and are there constraints on the length of the newsletter .
[22:13] <Bashing-om> xfce*
[22:13] <krytarik> What would that be btw..?
[22:14] <Bashing-om> krytarik: still looking at new material // so far xfce with 2 releases .
[22:15] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, no constraints, just it depends on how much help we have
[22:16] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Well, I can make the time to add these 3 to UWN .
[22:18] <krytarik> If you want to write about updates to individual parts of Xfce, I'd group them under one header at least though.
[22:37] <Wild_Man> krytarik, wrote a summary for Ubuntu Studio and put it as a suggested, I will leave it up to you if you want to use it
[22:39] <Bashing-om> krytarik: Hey. We do like xfce .. will make up a common heading and include in this edition :)
[22:40] <krytarik> Yes, we do!
[22:42] <krytarik> Bashing-om: On the Gnome memory leak post, please not so much quoting.
[22:44] <krytarik> Wild_Man: I have read the OMG article earlier, and I'm not particularly convinced yet the summary captures its content sufficiently. :)
[22:45] <krytarik> But it's closer already indeed.
[22:46] <Bashing-om> krytarik: That long quote - IMHO - carries all of the relevant info ... yes ?
[22:47] <krytarik> Well, we aren't to quote everything but to summarize.
[22:48] <Wild_Man> The only place we can quote is apparently for pod casts
[22:51] <krytarik> Well tbh, that's arguable too - but since it's always been done this way so far..
[22:53] <krytarik> At least I've changed the always same intro who is on the show the week to just a simple list already now.
[23:45] <tsimonq2> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2018-April/004438.html
[23:45] <tsimonq2>  /!\ /!\ Help test! /!\ /!\
[23:51] <guiverc> tsimonq2, is it worth putting it on fridge?  (from memory testing qualifies)
[23:51] <Bashing-om> tsimonq2: Looking ^ .
[23:51] <tsimonq2> guiverc: Yes.
[23:52] <Bashing-om> Interesting: https://insights.ubuntu.com/2018/04/20/design-and-web-team-summary-20-april-2018 . Does it suit for inclusion ?
[23:54] <guiverc> i'll put on fridge (hyper-text-free though!)
[23:55] <guiverc> (i meant https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2018-April/004438.html on fridge)
[23:55] <Wild_Man> I think it does that is why I included it
[23:56] <guiverc> tsimonq2, adam con.. of ?? it only has his name - Ubuntu Release Team???
[23:57] <tsimonq2> guiverc: Adam Conrad is on the Ubuntu Release Team, yes.
[23:57] <guiverc> use that, or just Ubuntu team (start - Adam Conrad of ...)
[23:57] <tsimonq2> Nah, Ubuntu Release Team is better, imho. :)
[23:58] <guiverc> thanks.  will use urt
[23:58] <tsimonq2> Cool. :)


[23:36] <danielveazey> Hi all
[23:37] <danielveazey> hi wayne
[23:37] <danielveazey> waynew
[23:38] <waynew> Hi danielveazey
[23:39] <waynew> how goes it?
[23:39] <danielveazey> pretty good. watching wheel of fortune.
[23:39] <waynew> Fun times... I love the "I've got a good feeling about this" clip
[23:40]  * waynew is learning to program on android
[23:42] <danielveazey> how do you like it?
[23:55] <waynew> welp, I'm still setting it up so far, heh
[23:58] <waynew> well... my emulator is now just saying A N D R O I D


[21:58] <user8934> Morning. Anyone else seeing 403 errors when hitting au.archive.ubuntu.com?
[22:39] <guiverc> missed the question; but yeah I've seen questions on IRC, on askubuntu... I suggested askubu user raise ticket with aarnet; I sent email to 'aarnet mirror group' on lp when I noticed a focal box give errors too
[22:40] <guiverc> a user on IRC said they'd raise a ticket; so mine & 1 IRC user have raised tickets..
[22:41] <guiverc> SD-29905 is the AARNET ticket i have


[20:17] <Acheron-a> https://www.opendesktop.org/s/Gnome/p/1192272/
[20:17] <Acheron-a> nice theme that works under 18.04


[06:28] <chinthu> nickserv crscrs
[06:37] <chinthu> hi
[06:37] <chinthu> can anyone help me
[06:39] <JoseeAntonioR> !ask | chinthu
[06:39] <ubot2> chinthu: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
[14:19] <gld1982ltd> trying to learn bazaar and packaging. anyone know anything about this?
[14:21] <geirha> gld1982ltd: Have you seen http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/tools/packaging/ ?
[14:21] <smartboyhw> gld1982ltd: GO to #ubuntu-devel or #ubuntu-motu
[14:21] <gld1982ltd> thank you.
[22:03] <Vamps-AFK> has any one put together a PXE Boot installing server?


[00:36] <jgnome> exit
[00:36] <jgnome> quit
[09:18] <mgedmin> whoa, nautilus crashed out of the blue
[09:18] <mgedmin> SIGSEGV in g_object_new_internal()
[09:19] <mgedmin> oh wait how is my jhbuild-built glib in the stack trace?
[09:29] <mgedmin> ah, I see
[09:29] <mgedmin> gnome-builder spawned it for some reason
[11:13] <mgedmin> um, why is my keyboard suddenly us-english?
[11:14] <mgedmin> maybe I pushed alt-shift by accident
[12:58] <PatrickS> Hello might someone be able to help me with a dual display issue I am having?
[13:17] <mgedmin> maybe, maybe not: ask :)
[16:45] <JDAIII> Was anyone else effected by yesterday updates? I have two monitors, one 4K and one 1080. After the update yesterday I shutdown my machine and when I started it this morning, It could be the kernel update yesterday for 14.04 or it could be the chrome update yesterday, but the tabs in chrome are twice the size they were before the update and even if I start chrome with the google-chrome --force-device-scale-factor=1, it doesn't change anyt
[16:45] <JDAIII> hing. I cannot find a way to scale it down so the tabs don't take up 1.5th the screen on my 1080 monitor. I can see the tabs are larger on the 4K monitor also even though other apps like nemo did not change in res or scaling rather
[16:48] <JDAIII> I have a shortcut key CTRL-Shift-F7 to run gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface scaling-factor 2 and Ctrl-Shift-F8 to run gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface scaling-factor 1 which is how I changed on the fly when I wanted to use the second monitor. It never worked with Chrome, but if someone thinks of that, I already tried that also
[16:49] <JDAIII> I can see that there was an update yesterday from my /var/log/apt/history.log file in that chrome was updated: google-chrome-stable:amd64 (42.0.2311.152-1, 43.0.2357.65-1) Is the first number the old version and the second number the new version?
[16:50] <JDAIII> Is there a way to revert back? As in uninstall the current and reinstall the specific verison from before and then lock the package from updating?
[17:02] <JDAIII> I tried uninstalling Chrome version 43 and installing 42 from the /var/cache/apt/archive, but after install and I check the version, it is on 43. Not sure what I am not doing in order to revert the version back
[17:07] <JDAIII> I think that I could function if it were possible to change the font size in the chrome tabs, the address bar, and the bookmarks bar
[20:59] <JDAIII> I finally got sick and tired of the chrome issue as it just brings me back to a 6 month old issue that I have been avoiding. My question is how to apply a .path file to xorg? I have a patch for ubuntu 15.04 and I will upgrade to it,. but having issues finding specific details on applying this patch
[21:00] <JDAIII> .patch not .path
[21:01] <darthanubis> anyone with a link to 14.10?
[21:01] <darthanubis> other releases>ubuntu gnome 14.10> Download Ubuntu GNOME 14.10>>GetUbuntuGNOME>>other releases>>ubuntu gnome 14.10 etc


[06:29] <auscompgeek> oh yeah, I was going to mention this a while back, but forgot
[06:30] <auscompgeek> wubi doesn't have Ubuntu GNOME in its list of Ubuntu flavours, but it does install after adding it in
[09:32] <x-Na_> Hello, is there anyone awake?
[09:33] <x-Na> I finally got around investigating my problem with gnome-shell crashing when changing users, as this is a multiuser computer.
[09:33] <x-Na> And it seems that whenever I change from LightDM to GDM, it causes the gnome-shell of the first logged in user to crash
[09:34] <x-Na> ...when user is switched
[09:34] <x-Na> This does not happen when running same setup in Virtualbox, though
[09:34] <x-Na> So first thought I get is that it is a combination of GDM and NVidia drivers, probably
[09:36] <x-Na> I haven't found any relative bugs from launchpad, though. The problem is that it is REALLY hard to find any help with a multiuser setup, seems almost that it is not very common for people to run multiuser setups
[09:37] <x-Na> But anyways, I want to file a bug about this, but I'd appreciate any help so that I get all the necessary information along so that it won't get just closed as invalid etc
[16:55] <cxexa> Hi all. Are the instructions here the best way to go about checking out 3.10 on a fresh Ubuntu Gnome install?  http://www.webupd8.org/2013/09/how-to-install-gnome-310-in-ubuntu-1310.html
[16:55] <cxexa> short version: still need to add next and staging PPAs?
[17:39] <roasted> I'd be so happy to help answer if people would stick around long enough :(
[17:58] <teemperor> roasted: it's hard
[17:58] <teemperor> :)
[18:18] <MaverickPT> hi
[18:22] <x-Na> roasted, well I've been here all day after I explained my situation :D
[18:27] <teemperor> hi MaverickPT
[18:27] <teemperor> x-Na: and it got solved? :)
[18:28] <MaverickPT> was just wondering how long each release is supported until but I found it all by myself
[18:29] <MaverickPT> you guys running 13.10 yet?
[18:31] <teemperor> MaverickPT: sticking on the LTS :)
[18:45] <x-Na> teemperor, nobody answered anything :)
[18:45] <teemperor> x-Na: that's sad, what's your problem?
[18:46] <x-Na> Switching to GDM cause the gnome-shell of the first logged user to crash (disappear completely, leaving desktop unusable) when switching users
[18:46] <x-Na> Happens on 3.8 and 3.10
[19:18] <x-Na> ...and silence again...
[19:19] <x-Na> I am suspecting that at some point I will have explain to my wife why we do not use windows. And this does not really improve the situation...
[19:20] <x-Na> +to
[19:20] <SonikkuAmerica> x-Na: GDM knocks off a current session? How?
[19:20] <SonikkuAmerica> One second...
[19:20] <x-Na> session stays, but gnome-shell crashes and leaves an empty white backgound
[19:20] <teemperor> x-Na: you can ping people :)
[19:21] <teemperor> x-Na: sometimes people get busy anf forget stuff :D
[19:21] <x-Na> i know
[19:21] <x-Na> with kids and all
[19:21] <teemperor> x-Na: using another greeter? lightdm has a lot of nice ones
[19:22] <x-Na> hbut
[19:22] <x-Na> lock screen works only with gdm, right?
[19:22] <x-Na> wife was wondering where it had gone
[19:22] <x-Na> hence this situation
[19:22] <teemperor> x-Na: AFAIK it uses the gnome lockscreen even with lightdm
[19:22] <x-Na> 3.8 does not
[19:23] <x-Na> earlier the situation was different
[19:23] <x-Na> It seems to have changed from 3.8 onwards
[19:24] <x-Na> I would use 3.10 but it needs GDM
[19:24] <x-Na> works like a charm as long as there is only one user logged on
[19:24] <x-Na> cant reproduce on virtualbox
[19:25] <x-Na> And I am losing my battery on my phone.
[19:27] <teemperor> x-Na: hmm, weird
[19:27] <teemperor> i'm using 3.4
[19:27] <teemperor> kinda
[19:29] <x-Na> With 3.6 there were problems with GDM too, it had problems, but it worked in sense of logging and switching users
[19:29] <x-Na> But as I said, usually multiuser setups get neglected, IMHO
[19:29] <teemperor> x-Na: as the guy making the pantheon-greeter
[19:29] <teemperor> yes
[19:29] <teemperor> priority is low
[19:29] <teemperor> :(
[19:30] <x-Na> Which is sad, though
[19:30] <teemperor> x-Na: yeah, multi-user systems with graphical display are not thaat common
[19:30] <x-Na> I wouldn't want to switch to Windows for reasons like this, have been GNU/Linux only since 2004.
[19:30] <teemperor> that*
[19:30] <x-Na> But in 2004 things worked
[19:30] <x-Na> What happened in these 9 years
[19:31] <teemperor> x-Na: true, so much stuff gets broken
[19:31] <teemperor> x-Na: i would say: use elementary OS but you were already in #elementary because of bugs ;)
[19:31] <teemperor> and it's not my job to play the advocate in a gnome channel. Just helping out because it seems that gnome-ubuntu is low on manpower
[19:32] <x-Na> I fell in love with Linux almost instantly, when I started back in 1998
[19:32] <teemperor> btw, is the bug also happening on other distros?
[19:32] <teemperor> fedora? arch or something?
[19:32] <x-Na> I haven't tried
[19:32] <x-Na> As I have only one desktop-pc that needs to work
[19:32] <teemperor> if you have another system, you can push that bug to the gnome devs (instead of the gnome-ubuntu devs)
[19:32] <x-Na> And I really do not want to go rpm
[19:33] <teemperor> nobody wants, rpm is fugly
[19:33] <teemperor> you could try debian :)
[19:33] <x-Na> It does not have 3.10
[19:33] <x-Na> I switched to ubuntu back in the old days as it got me the latest Gnome faster
[19:33] <teemperor> yeah, not the latest, but you enjoy stability :)
[19:34] <teemperor> ubuntu turned the non-LTS to a beta-test thingy
[19:34] <x-Na> Well
[19:34] <x-Na> No comment on that
[19:34] <x-Na> So far everything else has worked
[19:34] <x-Na> But as they focus on Unity...
[19:34] <x-Na> Which just does not appeal to me at all
[19:35] <x-Na> Debian might have 3.8, though
[19:36] <x-Na> but I don't want to go through the hassle of installing and reinstalling just for test...
[19:38] <x-Na> I did file a bug, but let's see what happens
[19:39] <teemperor> x-Na: gnome bugtracker?
[19:41] <x-Na> No, ubuntu-bug
[20:07] <Ben10> hi where do i report a bug on the latest ISO
[20:12] <Ben10> if anyone sees this later, the entire X Window System freezes when columns are dragged in GNOME System Monitor.  This affects the 64 and 32 bit versions
[22:26] <carlosmtnz> hi


[15:09] <bac> hi francis -- i just got email inviting me to budapest for the canonical summit
[15:09] <bac> normally i know i wouldn't go to UDS this time.  but since i'll be there should i plan to stay for all or part?
[15:10] <bac> oops


[21:25] <robert45> alright nacc and reisio THANK YOU! so much for all the help regarding the apt-get/python issue, it was a silly error but you completely saved my life! thanks so much again
[21:25] <nacc> steven_: did you upgrade from 14.04?
[21:25] <steven_> PaganMin: you are like everywhere mate
[21:25] <steven_> stop stalking me
[21:25] <steven_> also nacc yes
[21:25] <nacc> !ltsupgrade | steven_
[21:26] <ikonia> no-one is staling you
[21:26] <k1l> since its already saying that 4 upgrades are in half state. so there was an error before
[21:26] <ikonia> talking
[21:26] <ikonia> stalking even
[21:26] <ikonia> what are you talking about stalking you ?
[21:26] <steven_> ikonia: he is :D
[21:26] <reisio> np dude
[21:26] <PaganMin> steven_, i cannot get over how handsome you are mate
[21:26] <steven_> I know, but the stalking thing is not cool
[21:26] <nacc> robert45: np, glad you're in a good state now
[21:26] <ikonia> steven_: no-one is stalking you
[21:26] <ikonia> just focus on the problem and listen to the help you're getting
[21:26] <steven_> nacc: .. that is not helping me u know? I was asking if there was a way to sorta fix it :)
[21:26] <k1l> makinen: is "linux-generic" installed?
[21:27] <steven_> ikonia: I am serious, he does stalk me but yeah lets focus on the issue (I am looking at you PaganMin ..
[21:27] <robert45> thanks! bye!
[21:27] <bekks> steven_: can you pastebin "sudo apt update" please, too?
[21:27] <ikonia> steven_: how did you upgrade to 16.04 - there is no official 16.04 upgrade path at the moment
[21:27] <ikonia> let me guess you used the "-d" argument
[21:28] <steven_> you are good at guessing ikonia :D
[21:28] <ikonia> why did you do that ?
[21:28] <ikonia> do you know what -d is for ?
[21:28] <steven_> not a prod server, so just went with it. if there was no quick n dirty day to fix it I just reinstall the entire OS
[21:29] <ikonia> sorry - I don't like that approach
[21:29] <steven_> I was just thinking maybe there was, I am running arch on my clients so I am just used to run latest versions without "breaking" cos of upgrade paths :)
[21:29] <k1l> look in the apt logs in /var/log/apt/ what the issue was when you installed that kernel
[21:29] <ikonia> steven_: no you don't need to run the latest versions
[21:29] <ikonia> steven_: and you need to be able to do safe upgrades / installs
[21:29] <ikonia> you've done neither
[21:29] <ikonia> and to be honest you seem really slapdash about fixing it
[21:31] <steven_> I .. I am not? I was asking for help, not for someone to lecture me why I upgraded it? you guys are either help me figure it out, which I would appreciate ofc. or tell me that there is no offical upgrade path so I have to suck it up
[21:31] <k1l> steven_: is this a live system?
[21:31] <hggdh> steven_: if it helps any, I *did* upgrade a server from 14.04 to 16.04, no issues
[21:31] <steven_> its a private play around server, I wouldnt be crazy and do unoffical stuff on production :)
[21:32] <k1l> steven_: "df -h | nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:32] <ikonia> steven_: there is no official upgrade path
[21:32] <ikonia> steven_: the upgrade path gets released at 16.04.1
[21:33] <steven_> ikonia: I am aware of that :)
[21:33] <k1l> steven_: so go and look at the logs why that kernel install failed in the first place
[21:33] <steven_> k1l: http://termbin.com/93g1
[21:33] <k1l> steven_: then you can fix that and have a woring system again. if you are to lazy for that, then just reinstall.
[21:33] <steven_> Also nice, I wasnt aware of terminbin. thanks :)
[21:35] <steven_> does dpkg / apt have special error logs k1l or should I just go thru dpkg.log?
 look in the apt logs in /var/log/apt/ what the issue was when you installed that kernel
[21:36] <steven_> ah yeah sorry. I am on the webchat. so all of those join / part messages
[21:36] <steven_> just Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[21:37] <usuario> gi
[21:37] <usuario> oi
[21:38] <basic6_> ubuntu seems to automatically detect the location and switch the language settings, how can this be disabled?
[21:38] <Tatiko> HI!
[21:39] <Tatiko> Who tar no create tarball?
[21:40] <ikonia> Tatiko: ?
[21:40] <Tatiko> ikonia, hot to use tar?
[21:40] <ikonia> to do what ?
[21:41] <Tatiko> ikonia, tar -f name.tar filename    ?
[21:41] <ikonia> Tatiko: "to do what"
[21:41] <Tatiko> I need create tar with all into folder
[21:41] <ikonia> Tatiko: man tar
[21:41] <ikonia> "c" is the create function
[21:43] <CheeDinsky> tatertots:  So my machine doesn't like the 16.04, vid drivers I assume as the gui tears and artifacts to the point I can't really navigate
[21:43] <Tatiko> tar: Refusing to write archive contents to terminal (missing -f option?) tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[21:43] <CheeDinsky> tatertots: But I did notice a bluetooth icon on the menu bar
[21:43] <steven_> D000040: ok 0 msgs >> linux-image-extra-4.4.0-24-generic depends on linux-image-4.4.0-24-generic; however:   Package linux-image-4.4.0-24-generic is not configured yet.
[21:43] <steven_> m
[21:43] <ikonia> Tatiko: what is the exact command you are using
[21:43] <steven_> k1l: ^interesting
[21:43] <tatertots> ah i see
[21:43] <Tatiko> ikonia, sudo tar -c 1.tar ./
[21:43] <k1l> steven_: yes. "sudo apt-get install -f"
[21:44] <CheeDinsky> tatertots:  My day is just about over here, but I'll be back at it tomorrow.
[21:44] <steven_> doesnt work
[21:44] <k1l> steven_: we need to know why the kernel install doesnt work.
[21:44] <tatertots> ur probably gonna have to reinstall
[21:44] <k1l> steven_: is this a vps and it cant install the new kernel?
[21:44] <CheeDinsky> tatertots:  I do want to say thank you once again for you help and patience...that goes for anyone else who had input
[21:44] <steven_> yeah
[21:44] <steven_> its a vps
[21:44] <tatertots> don't know how or why ur system doesn't have btusb but it sounds like the livecd/liveusb did have it
[21:45] <tatertots> probably installation issue
[21:45] <k1l> there are vps technologies that cant change the kernel on the guest os
[21:45] <CheeDinsky> tatertots: I will try a reinstall tomorrow...ok, weird, but I'll see what I can do.
[21:45] <tatertots> no worries
[21:45] <ikonia> steven_: show the output of "uname -a" please
[21:45] <CheeDinsky> Would the adapter need to be plugged in during install?
[21:45] <ikonia> I suspect it's a container
[21:45] <steven_> → uname -a Linux 5-196-110-219.ovh.net 4.4.0-21-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 18 18:33:37 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:45] <CheeDinsky> Something as simple as that?
[21:45] <tatertots> try a newer 14.x version since u were on 14.x
[21:45] <ikonia> there we go
[21:45] <CheeDinsky> Alright
[21:45] <ikonia> so it's running the kernel.....
[21:46] <tatertots> don't reinstall the same version that u had the issue with
[21:46] <CheeDinsky> I won't
[21:46] <Tatiko> ikonia?
[21:46] <ikonia> Tatiko: what ?
[21:46] <Tatiko> ikonia, tar not created
[21:46] <CheeDinsky> Have a good evening all
[21:48] <ikonia> Tatiko: tar cvf /path/to/tarfile /path/to/place/you/want/to/tar
[21:49] <Tatiko> tar -cvf file.tar ./ work i know
[21:49] <Tatiko> ikonia, why just -c no work?
[21:50] <Tatiko> ikonia, ok need c and f thx you!
[21:51] <Tatiko> outdated tar
[21:51] <ikonia> outdated tar ?
[21:51] <ikonia> what do you mean
[21:51] <nacc> Tatiko: if you don't pass -f, it doesn't know where to write the archive, so it tries to write it to the terminal, which you almost certainly don't want.
[21:51] <nacc> Tatiko: exactly as the error message said, btw
[21:52] <Tatiko> nacc, I want terminal
[21:53] <ikonia> I doubt that
[21:53] <nacc> Tatiko: it will output the raw archive bytes to the terminal. YOu don't want htat.
[21:53] <Tatiko> nacc, it no work
[21:54] <tgm4883> which begs the question, why is that even an option?
[21:54] <ikonia> tgm4883: used to be for tape files and default devices
[21:54] <ikonia> tape devices
[21:54] <nacc> Tatiko: 'it'?
[21:54] <tgm4883> fair enough
[21:54] <Tatiko> nacc, I nothing no see in terminal
[21:55] <ikonia> tar cvf
[21:55] <ikonia> include v
[21:55] <Tatiko> ikonia, thx you i know
[21:56] <Tatiko> And how to use xz if need archivate many GB to little size?
[21:56] <ikonia> Tatiko: come on - man tar
[21:56] <ikonia> we've spoon fed you all the options
[21:56] <zerowaitstate> tgm4883: that's so you can pipe the results to a character device. You could, for example, stream it to a serial port instead of a tape
[21:56] <Tatiko> max little
[21:56] <nacc> Tatiko: are you the same person that was Fiji a few days ago?
[21:56] <ikonia> Tatiko: "man tar"
[21:56] <nacc> it sounds *very* similar, and we concluded they were a troll
[21:57] <Tatiko> nacc, no
[21:57] <nacc> well, too harsh, they were trolling :)
[21:57] <Tatiko> ikonia, i lnow
[21:57] <Tatiko> k
[21:57] <nacc> Tatiko: -J
[21:57] <nacc> Tatiko: but as ikonia said, just read the manpages
[21:57] <Tatiko> How to use xz now?
[21:57] <nacc> Tatiko: *read* the man pages.
[21:58] <Tatiko> HEY?
[21:58] <Tatiko> Why you kicked me?
[21:58] <ikonia> Tatiko: because you are not listening
[21:58] <ikonia> Tatiko: "man tar" that will show you the arguments and how to use them
[21:58] <Tatiko> ikonia, i want use stanadlone xz
[21:58] <ikonia> we've explained to you how to use "c" "v" "f" - we are not here to go through every option
[21:59] <ikonia> Tatiko: man "tar" will showyou how to use xz
[21:59] <Tatiko> ikonia, xz -z flename filename
[21:59] <ikonia> please do not ask again
[21:59] <kyle__> Tatiko: did you know man xz also works?
[21:59] <Tatiko> here few options
[21:59] <Tatiko> in --help
[21:59] <kyle__> 🌈The more you know.
[21:59] <ikonia> Tatiko: man xz
[21:59] <k1l> !man | Tatiko
[21:59] <ikonia> Tatiko: it will show all the options and explain them
[22:00] <Tatiko> Need use lzma?
[22:00] <ikonia> Tatiko: you're not making sense
[22:00] <ikonia> you're just saying random command names
[22:00] <nacc> alright, whether they intend to or not, Tatiko is trolling.
[22:00] <k1l> Tatiko: instead of us having to read the manpage to you, you can read it directly. if you have a specific question you can ask here. but waht you do looks like you are just lazy or trolling.
[22:00] <Tatiko> I need a High compression
[22:01] <ikonia> Tatiko: ok - learn how to use the commands then to compress
[22:01] <nacc> Tatiko: what are you compressing?
[22:01] <Tatiko> i read man fuck
[22:01] <riccardo-pc> serie last cop
[22:01] <lucas-arg> any good app already as snap?
[22:01] <riccardo-pc> qualcuno la conosce?!
[22:02] <k1l> lucas-arg: vlc, nextcloud, krita,....
[22:02] <k1l> !it | riccardo-pc
[22:03] <kyle__> I thought xz, like bzip2 and gzip, defaulted to -9, which is the highest compression they do....
[22:03] <ikonia> kyle__: he's trolling, ignore it
[22:03]  * kyle__ shrugs
[22:03] <kyle__> Good point
[22:10] <rockstar____> guys, I have Ubuntu in Dell XPS L502X optimus laptop. Previously HDMI to TV didn't work. So now I got mini-display port. When I plugged in it doesn't do anything. What should I do?
[22:12] <fsh> Hi guys can anybody have a look at my boot info logs pls
[22:12] <ikonia> fsh: why ?
[22:12] <ikonia> whats the actual problem
[22:13] <fsh> My OS isn't booting after a fresh install onto my macbook pro
[22:13] <ikonia> could you explain better than "isn't booting"
[22:13] <fsh> Get a black screen and an error on screen - "missing operating system"
[22:13] <k1l> !macbook
[22:13] <fsh> <3
[22:13] <ikonia> ok - so the boot sector that your boot loader is looking at isn't there
[22:14] <k1l> see the wiki pages on what you need to do to get the apple hardware to work.
[22:16] <_MyStartx_> hmm..
[22:17] <Jordan_U> fsh: What version of Ubuntu? What specific iso file did you use? Did you burn to a DVD or boot via USB?
[22:20] <barhum2013> I managed to look myself out of my server by deleting all the ssh keys.  I have access to the digitalocean console.  I managed to add my key back to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys but I still cannot seem to log in.  I get Permission denied (publickey) error when trying to ssh.
[22:20] <fsh> It's actually ElementaryOS but nobody in that channel replies -.-
[22:21] <Jordan_U> fsh: This channel only supports Ubuntu. Period.
[22:21] <fsh> Oh
[22:22] <Jordan_U> fsh: I exoect that if you install with the standard Ubuntu 16.04 desktop iso you will not have this problem.
[22:23] <fsh> Yeah I was going to see if a plain old ubuntu install would work if I couldn't fix this issue myself
[22:26] <hggdh> barhum2013: check permissions of the ~/ssh and ~/ssh/authorized_keys; also check if you correctly copied your public key
[22:34] <OerHeks>
[22:42] <johndoe__> #abiword
[22:45] <YankDownUnder> johndoe__, If you want to join that channel, type: /join #abiword
[22:58] <asd_> hi
[23:38] <frib> i keep getting this error processing libssh2-php.  no matter what i do! http://paste.ubuntu.com/17774680/
[23:38] <frib> please help! thank you!
[23:39] <nacc> frib: what version of ubuntu?
[23:39] <frib> nacc, 14.04 on digital ocean
[23:40] <nacc> frib: are you using any PPAs?
[23:41] <frib> nacc, yes
[23:41] <nacc> frib: for PHP?
[23:41] <frib> nacc, i'm not really sure
[23:41] <frib> where can I check?
[23:41] <nacc> frib: can you run `apt-cache policy php5`, `apt update` and pastebin the output
[23:42] <frib> http://paste.ubuntu.com/17774854/
[23:43] <frib> http://paste.ubuntu.com/17774877/
[23:43] <frib> i upgraded to php7
[23:43] <frib> with ppa
[23:43] <nacc> frib: ah, that's not supported here
[23:43] <nacc> feel free to contact the ppa owner
[23:43] <frib> i dont want support with that
[23:43] <nacc> frib: but breakage like you experience is certainly possible
[23:43] <nacc> frib: installing php7 broke other stuff
[23:44] <nacc> frib: it's the risk you run with using ppas.
[23:44] <nacc> frib: in this case, libssh2-php depends on php5 syntax
[23:44] <gin> frib, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1346581
[23:44] <frib> i dont want php5 or libssh2
[23:44] <frib> can't i just get rid of them?
[23:44] <nacc> frib: you should have gotten rid of php5 and any of its dependencies, first
[23:44] <nacc> then added ondrej's PPA
[23:45] <frib> there's no way to go back now?
[23:45] <nacc> not easily, that package is basically broken on your system (libssh2-php). Maybe someone else can hel you out
[23:45] <nacc> *help
[23:46] <frib> now I can't install or remove any software?
[23:47] <gin> frib, did you even notice the link I gave you few mins ago?
[23:47] <frib> no
[23:47] <gin> scoll up
[23:47] <nacc> gin: that's not the error in question
[23:47] <frib> gin, i already tried that
[23:49] <frib> nacc, if i roll back my system to a snapshot and uninstall php5 first then i won't have problems?
[23:52] <nacc> frib: probably? not sure
[23:53] <nacc> frib: but i would make sure to remove php5 and all dependencies
[23:53] <nacc> frib: meaning remove php5, then run the autoremove that follows it
[23:53] <frib> yeah
[23:54] <frib> ill just try with a new one and see before destroying this one
[23:55] <virgoretti6> I lost all of the packages I installed earlier, and wine isn't installing again...
[23:55] <xangua> ! Details | virgoretti6
[23:56] <frib> nacc, this says it assumes you *are* running php5 https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-upgrade-to-php-7-on-ubuntu-14-04
[23:56] <nacc> frib: you'd need to talk to the author, that path isn't supported here
[23:58] <virgoretti6> ubottu how would I use !pastebin?
[23:58] <frib> nacc, in case you're interested apt install php5-fpm fixed the problem
[23:58] <virgoretti6> xangua how would I use !pastebin?
[23:59] <nacc> !pastebin | virgoretti6
[23:59] <nacc> frib: well, yeah, that reinstall php5, which would have brought php5dismod back


[00:18] <aiena> I have a tiny query I like Qterminal but since I am on ubuntu I have gnome-terminal there by default both the icons are identical is there a way to give Qterminal/konsole etc different terminal icons
[00:21] <rbox> icons where
[00:32] <aiena> rbox, in gnome and system wide
[00:37] <rbox> meaning where...
[00:37] <aiena> one sec
[00:37] <aiena> everywhere when Isearch for the terminal and when i pin it to the application launcher
[00:39] <rbox> why do you have both on the laucnher
[00:40] <aiena> sometimes I like one over the other but I want to visually distinguish them by icon
[00:40] <rbox> you switch?
[00:40] <rbox> lol
[00:41] <rbox> the desktop file is in /usr/share/applications
[00:41] <aiena> yeah gnome trminal is cool purple konsole I think I'll remove
[00:41] <rbox> copy it to ~/.local/share/applications
[00:41] <rbox> and change the icon to wahtever you want
[00:41] <rbox> hgow many termianls do you need
[00:41] <rbox> lol
[00:41] <aiena> qterminal is neat discovered it in a lubuntu vm
[00:43] <aiena> rbox, https://paste.opensuse.org/pastes/6a50db5c7733 lol
[00:43] <rbox> why do you need to search
[00:43] <rbox> if you've pinnned it
[00:43] <aiena> guake has a unique terminal wanted to make differnt others all show up as one gnome style one
[00:44] <aiena> rbox, its not pinned yet want to pin bith but its a nightmare
[00:44] <aiena> they look identical
[00:47] <aiena> maybe its not possible to give a custom icon but I hope it is
[00:48] <rbox> ijust told you how
[00:48] <rbox> but you just run the one you want
[00:48] <rbox> pin it
[00:48] <rbox> and call it a day
[00:48] <aiena> copy it to ~/.local/share/applications yes but I dont know from where to copy it to there
[00:49] <rbox> [05:41:09 PM] <rbox> the desktop file is in /usr/share/applications
[00:50] <aiena> sorry I missed that
[01:51] <loswedseded> is there a tone generation application for ubuntu?
[01:51] <loswedseded> like https://onlinetonegenerator.com/
[01:51] <loswedseded> downloadable and no internet reliant I mean
[01:52] <rbox> what do you want to do with the tone once you've generated it
[01:54] <aiena> thanks rbox works beautifully
[02:02] <aiena> loswedseded, I think audacity can easily generate a tone for you
[02:03] <aiena> I used to use it for that and much more
[02:03] <aiena> its pretty good
[02:05] <JanC> audacity can do it indeed
[02:05] <JanC> probably effect plugins for many other audio editors too
[02:05] <JanC> or for Jack
[02:08] <JanC> there is also a package named 'siggen'
[02:09] <JanC> that one is for the commandline
[02:11] <aiena> ok not tried those. Audacity was cross platform and was enough for all my needs for audio cleaning cutting joining etc.
[02:12] <aiena> I admit I dont do much tone generation but did use to to test filters etc.
[02:12] <aiena> with predictable input
[02:13] <JanC> yes, Audacity is quite easy to use (although I think it still doesn't support PulseAudio properly?)
[02:14] <JanC> it's been a while since I used it to be fair
[10:26] <zeprox> Hi! I'm having trouble getting my bluetooth headset to work. I have no input in headset mode, if I switch to handsfree mode i have no input or output.
[11:21] <beast5678> hey
[12:40] <tripstah> this any good? https://sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair-cd/home/Home/  or are there better alternatives?
[12:48] <EriC^^> tripstah: it's good
[12:49] <EriC^^> do you have a problem with booting right now?
[12:50] <tripstah> nope, but have had a few times before. now's good.
[12:51] <EriC^^> ok cool
[12:51] <tripstah> just in case... :-)
[12:51] <EriC^^> gotcha ;)
[13:24] <tier> h
[13:25] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:09] <BinarySavior> how can I have ubuntu logged in by default when OS is booted up?
[14:10] <Paris> in the setting panel
[14:10] <Paris> must be in account/user auto loggin
[14:10] <Paris> something like that.
[14:18] <nodemxu84> exit
[15:36] <phryk> I just set up ubuntu 22.04 in a vm. this is my first linux in over 10 years (my daily driver being freebsd). i gave this vm a virtual disk of 40gb and told the setup to use the entire disk. but when i `df -h` i can see that just above half of the disk seems to actually be used – what's up with that?
[15:37] <phryk> no disk encryption/signatures used, so i expected it to actually get 40g of space, not 80% of that, definitely not just half of it…
[15:38] <ravage> phryk: Ubuntu Server?
[15:39] <phryk> yes. also just stumbled onto https://bugs.launchpad.net/subiquity/+bug/1907128 seems to have been an active decision and that the topic i have to read up on is lvm.
[15:39] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1907128 in subiquity "Subiquity only provisions half of available space for root logical volume" [Undecided, In Progress]
[15:40] <ravage> yes i think you have to resize it manually atm
[15:40] <phryk> weird, but hey, snapshots are apparently a thing and since i don't want to deal with a full-blown offsite backup solution just yet, i guess i know what my interim solution will be. :P
[15:47] <ravage> it is a stupid default.  i think you can do manual partitioning to get around it
[15:48] <ravage> also it is just misleading. "use entire disk" is just not what is does
[15:50] <pavlos> phryk: this alias will show you first level dirs ... alias big='sudo du -d1 -ah / | sort  -rh'
[16:13] <phryk> pavlos: i don't see the relevance of that. i don't have a problem figuring out what uses how much space.
[16:24] <PeGaSuS> so, I'm a bit angry with the "lets make everything as a snap". firefox snap refuses to start, for some unknown reason and if I try to start it from command line I get a "(crashreporter:329271): IBUS-WARNING **: 17:23:24.649: Failed to mkdir /home/vitor/snap/firefox/3626/.config/ibus/bus: Not a directory". same happens with Chromium
[16:26] <PeGaSuS> the command `ps x | grep -v grep | grep firefox` returns no output which means no instance is running
[16:30] <PeGaSuS> I'll reinstall it and see. but really makes little sense (and don't come with the "security" thing) to turn things that we used for decades as binaries into snaps.
[16:37] <Bibbles> Sinds de laatste kernel upgrade naar 6.5.0 in 33.04.3 vliegen de errors en warnings me rond de oren. Hebben meer mensen hier problemen mee? Voorlopig ben ik maar even terug naar kernel 6.2
[16:37] <Bibbles> Ik bedoel versie 22.04.3
[16:38] <Bibbles> O, sorry. This is the english channel ofcourse. My bad...
[16:40] <arraybolt3> PeGaSuS: Meh, the "security" thing was the whole point :P If you dislike it though, you can always uninstall the Snap and replace it with the Mozilla PPA or the upstream Firefox tarball. (I use the tarball on a slow, low-disk-space machine that doesn't cope with the Snap so well.)
[16:40] <PeGaSuS> I tried to remove and install the snap again and it still doesn't even start
[16:41] <arraybolt3> PeGaSuS: You can probably go into /home/vitor/snap/Firefox/3626/.config, then `stat ibus` and see if it's a file rather than a directory for some reason
[16:41] <arraybolt3> and if it's a directory, then `cd ibus; stat bus`
[16:41] <arraybolt3> and if *that's* a file rather than a directory, `mv bus bus.oldweirdwhatisthis; mkdir bus` and try again
[16:42] <ioria> maybe a broken link to current
[16:43] <PeGaSuS> yeah. `bus` seems to be a symlink: https://0bin.xyz/raw/X3JYYRX7ENTD7ZBXCD6TWRXS3M
[16:44] <ioria> i'd try to copy over the content of ~/.config/ibus/bus/ , but idk really
[16:47] <PeGaSuS> ls ~/.config/ibus/bus >> ls: cannot access '/home/vitor/.config/ibus/bus': No such file or directory
[16:48] <PeGaSuS> not even `~/.config/ibus/` exists
[16:49] <ioria> that should exist
[16:49] <PeGaSuS> for some weird reason it doesn't. and the pc is been up for the last 4 days
[16:50] <PeGaSuS> I can reboot, but I wonder if that fixes anything
[16:57] <Bibbles> Hello everyone. Ever since my 22.04.3 system upgraded tot kernel 6.5.0 I'm getting a lot of errors and warnings during startup about "array-index-out-of-bounds" etc. Also some of my hardware doesn't seem te be working with this new kernel. So, eventually I quit trying to fix this and reverted back to kernel 6.2 Does anyone expericence the same and can/will this be fixed?
[16:57] <PeGaSuS> after a reboot I was able to start Firefox but `/home/vitor/snap/firefox/3626/.config/ibus/bus` is a file and not a dir. `~/.config/ibus/` still doesn't exist
[17:00] <rbox> Bibbles: sounds like you should file a bug report
[17:00] <Bibbles> rbox: Probably. I've been searching for this and a see a lot of bug reports from various distributions thata are experiencing the same issues.
[17:01] <rbox> okay well if there isn't one in the ubuntu bug tracker
[17:01] <Bibbles> rbox: seriously?
[17:02] <rbox> well if its a kernel bug, you can just wait and maybe it'll get fixed if its the same as these other random bug reports
[17:02] <rbox> if its not a kernel bug, well then, it probably wont magically fix itself
[17:04] <alkisg> Bibbles: is the device using an in-kernel driver, or an out-of-tree one? Btw, you can also uninstall the -hwe kernel and use the generic 5.15 one
[17:04] <Bibbles> rbox: It's probably a kernel bug. I'm looking at reports like this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-meta-hwe-6.5/+bug/2049317
[17:04] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2049317 in linux-meta-hwe-6.5 (Ubuntu) "UBSAN array-index-out-of-bounds error in dmesg - amd gpu drivers" [Undecided, Confirmed]
[17:06] <rbox> well if there is arelad ya bug report
[17:06] <rbox> then just followi t and see
[17:07] <phryk> i'm trying to get mssql running on 22.04. which as per ms is the latest supported version and seems to be the best choice because it's an lts release. however the setup (mssql-conf setup) fails when trying to run sqlservr, which crashes.
[17:07] <phryk> error output is less than helpful, but seems to indicate it's trying to open a file that doesn't exist (cause: 6, last errno: 22).
[17:08] <rbox> sounds like a question for microsoft
[17:08] <phryk> running sqlservr through strace it looks like it's trying to open /sys/block/dm-0/device/scsi_disk – this exists up to dm-0, but the entire 'device' directory does not exist – can somebody clear up what this file would be and why it might not exist on my system?
[17:08] <phryk> rbox: there's a microsoft channel? tried #mssql but it's almost empty, doesn't even have a topic and is very dead. :P
[17:08] <Bibbles> alkisg: The device is my network device. Normally it is supported with r8169, which is in-kernel. But the 6.5.0 doesn't work well and causes all sorts of weird behaviours. So I tried installing the r8168-dkms from repo. But that one didn't install. So eventually I had to recomplie a new .deb that is suited for 6.5.0 kernel. That one works. So that is one problem less. I still battle with screens full of warnings about "array-index-out-o
[17:08] <Bibbles> -bounds".
[17:20] <alkisg> Bibbles: if the UBSAN warnings are from the external .deb (not in ubuntu repositories), then you need to ask them to update it
[17:20] <alkisg> If they're from another, in-kernel driver, pastebin a couple of lines so that we can see from which driver it is
[17:20] <alkisg> And note once more that it's a supported use case to use the 5.15 kernel; while 6.2 isn't maintained anymore in 22.04
[17:23] <Bibbles> alkisg: These are allthe kernels on my system: linux-image-6.2.0-26-generic, linux-image-6.5.0-14-generic, linux-image-generic-hwe-22.04
[17:23] <Bibbles> Should I install the 5.15 manually?
[17:24] <alkisg> Bibbles: sudo apt install linux-generic
[17:24] <alkisg> Then reboot and select 5.15 in grub; THEN remove the 6.2 kernel
[17:25] <Bibbles> Ok. So the linux-generic will install the 5.15 kernel?
[17:25] <alkisg> Yes, it's the metapackage that installs the kernel and keeps it up to date with updates
[17:26] <Bibbles> alkisg: But wouldn't that be a big step back? Or is 5.15 what the 22.04 version started out with in the first place?
[17:27] <alkisg> Bibbles: ubuntu LTS releases maintain two series of kernels, the "stable" one and the "hardware enablement" one; all servers and all 22.04.0 installations have the "stable" one, while the rest ones have the hwe one
[17:28] <alkisg> So if you don't have some newer hardware that can't run on 5.15, then no, it's not a step back; you just give time to your dkms.deb developer to catch up with newer kernels
[17:29] <Bibbles> alkisg: I see. Thanks for that information! Much appriciated! But for the time being it's still ok to use the 6.5 or the 6.2 I guess? Maybe lateron, If I stay on 22.04, I can install 5.15 and use that kernel.
[17:31] <Bibbles> I just did a clean install with the latest Xubuntu 22.04.3 and it installs 6.5 out of the box.
[17:32] <alkisg> Bibbles: if the driver works then sure you can keep using 6.5. Don't use 6.2 it won't receive updates in 22.04. And yes, 22.04.3 comes with the -hwe kernel. That doesn't mean 5.15 is bad or unmaintained.
[17:33] <Bibbles> alkisg: I understand. Thanks again for the help and info! I will probably have to move back to 5.15 then.
[18:55] <cart_man> Hi eveyrone. I downloaded the Ubuntu-touch repo but tere is no code in that repo. How do I pull the actual code?
[19:11] <szstr> ah-ble' keh-dara:   How do u login to phpmyadmin with database creation abilities?
[19:12] <szstr> I need to set mysql user phpmyadmin to be able to create databases?
[19:14] <bprompt> szstr:  hmmm you could try asking at #php
[20:34] <jsmooth> A couple of months ago I installed Ubuntu to a flash drive. At first I got grub shell, rebooted to get desktop, now I keep getting grub shell. Is there any ideas as to what happened that causes this
[20:35] <rbox> some configuration file for grub got corrupted
[20:36] <jsmooth> Is the fix to just reinstall Ubuntu (including full format) again?
[20:37] <rbox> that would probably work
[20:37] <jsmooth> Is there something that doesn't require a full reinstall?
[20:38] <rbox> you could try fixing grub
[20:39] <bprompt> jsmooth: when you exit the LiveUSB session, do  you shut it down or simply turn off the computer?
[20:39] <jsmooth> I would imagine I would shut it down first.
[20:39] <jsmooth> Wouldn't it be dangerous to just turn off the power?
[20:40] <bprompt> jsmooth: yeap, if however you happen to poweroff the computer or interrupt the shutdown process, the session gets corrupted and good chances it won't load next time, or something like might happen
[20:40] <bprompt> jsmooth: just checking if that's what happened
[20:40] <jsmooth> JHmm.
[20:40] <alkisg> jsmooth: can you boot the liveusb now? Or you can't get past the grub prompt?
[20:41] <bprompt> jsmooth: it only has to happen once btw, to get corrupted
[20:41] <jsmooth> ACtually, no, because somehow the usb is failing. WIndows says I have to format it but if I try it says it's write-protected\
[20:41] <alkisg> It sounds like the flash drive got worn out and got itself to read-only mode
[20:42] <jsmooth> IT's brand-new
[20:42] <alkisg> Didn't you say a couple of months ago?
[20:42] <alkisg> If you put a non-live OS in a usb drive, it causes too many writes, it can damage it in a couple of months
[20:43] <jsmooth> Hmm. I guess it ruined it in 5 reboots
[20:43] <oerheks> unless that usb is an NVME..
[20:44] <jsmooth> I don't know, it's a 64GB ONN Flash Drive, best info I have.
[20:44]  * alkisg is waiting for his nvme-to-usb enclosure to get rid of all these problems :D
[20:44] <alkisg> jsmooth: just try to format it, if you can't, then send it back, it should still be in warranty after just 2 months
[20:44] <jsmooth> I don't think I registered a warranty
[20:45] <oerheks> run chkdsk on windows first?
[20:45] <ioria> jsmooth, can't you start it from the bios menu ? does it show there ?
[20:45] <bprompt> jsmooth: not trying to be bashful, ONN is a bit of a generic brand
[20:45] <jsmooth> I tried to format the usb, it said it's write-protected. The other USB i bought within a week of this one has done the same thing to me, it was the usb I used for the Ubuntu installer.
[20:46] <bprompt> jsmooth: btw, at first I thought you were meaning a liveusb session, as opposed to a full install to usb, anyhow
[20:46] <jsmooth> The other drive is live iso, but this one had the actual installation on it.
[20:47] <Maik> If the sticks are read only you probably can throw them away. Installing a OS on flash drives isn't really recommended.
[20:47] <bprompt> jsmooth: hmmm I still have my old Sandisk 4Gbs stick, running a LiveUSB of 20.04 just fine btw, even used it for 16.04 back then, still works
[20:47] <jsmooth> Hmm. I was a suggestion from an engineer, so I did it.
[20:48] <Maik> the read write count is far less so not such a good suggestion
[20:48] <alkisg> I've switched to sandisk sd cards for my raspberries, they were the most resilient of all the brands I've tried
[20:48] <bprompt> jsmooth: as I said, ONN is a bit of a generic brand, you'd want heavy reliability for lots of data I/O
[20:49] <jsmooth> Okay. I guess I shouldn't have bought a cheap one
[20:49] <bprompt> jsmooth: if you want my biased, Samsung is tops, or Sandisk
[20:49] <jsmooth> I'll keep that in mind
[20:50] <bprompt> jsmooth: and nevermind the price
[20:50] <jsmooth> Thanks
[21:34] <TomyLobo> I'm on ubuntu 22.04, I'm trying lxd for the first time. setting up a container worked and i'm now trying to forward all traffic going to one of my ipv6 IPs to it. From remote, I only get timeouts. From the host, it works. UFW logs a block, here are the details: https://gist.github.com/TomyLobo/39d4d24fe0fe1f58a9f399aa35367946
[21:35] <TomyLobo> I've been at this for hours, I can't figure out how to unblock this
[22:02] <lunatiq> anyone familiar with Ombi? I'm trying to update it but having trouble. I copy the tar from github of the latest version. I cp the working directory to another to back it up. I remove the old. I mkdir a new one. I wget the gz. I tar -xzvf and try to start it but it doesn't start.
[22:03] <rbox> "it doesnt start" doesnt say anything
[22:04] <lunatiq> rbox I don't know what else to say. I'm not a Ubuntu pro.
[22:05] <lunatiq> I use systemctl to start it and stop it
[22:05] <lunatiq> I can copy the backup and start it back up and it works
[22:34] <TomyLobo> lunatiq, instead of "it doesn't start", post the error, if there is one. if there is no output at all, say that, along with the output you would expect, or what else leads you to conclude that "it doesn't start"
[22:37] <lunatiq> TomyLobo I check ps aux. After initiating systemctl start ombi it goes to the next line like there was no issue but it isn't started.
[22:37] <lunatiq> I get 502 bad gateway too
[22:38] <lunatiq> I don't receive any error or a notice to check logs.
[22:39] <TomyLobo> what does "systemctl status ombi" say?
[22:40] <TomyLobo> btw for the majority of services, all "systemctl start ombi" does is launch the process and whatever else happens after it is none of its business
[22:40] <TomyLobo> that's why it instantly goes back to the command prompt
[22:42] <lunatiq> Let me try the process again and see what it says
[22:43] <TomyLobo> you could just look at "systemctl status ombi" :)
[22:43] <TomyLobo> also, journalctl -u ombi
[22:44] <lunatiq> https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/3f70fc8a079f4829ae710c8b647eb688
[22:44] <TomyLobo> btw, tell the authors of whatever "ombi" is, to make a package or a snap or a container image or something, cause handing people a tarball isn't really great
[22:46] <lunatiq> I understand
[22:46] <TomyLobo> ok so it exited with status 203. that doesn't tell us much, unless that's documented somewhere. but let's check the journal first (journalctl -u ombi). and see if port 3000 is already in use for some reason (netstat -nap | grep :3000)
[22:48] <TomyLobo> lunatiq, what's the output of "file /opt/Ombi/Ombi"?
[23:31] <SuperLag> Is there a way to perform the LTS install with the 6.x kernel right from the outset? or do you have to install normally and update later?
[23:34] <oerheks> SuperLag, if you install LTS now, you would get HWE automatic, so yes you can
[23:34] <oerheks> !hwe


[23:21] <cfs> hello, I have a proposed fix for LP #1716047
[23:26] <cfs> And I need a sponsor.  Documentation isn't really clear how to get anyone to do so.
[23:30] <tsimonq2> cfs: Just subscribe ~ubuntu-sponsors.
[23:30] <cfs> to the LP?
[23:30] <cfs> Okay.
[23:30] <tsimonq2> Yeo
[23:30] <tsimonq2> *Yep
[23:30] <tsimonq2> It'll go in our queue
[23:30] <cfs> :excellent:
[23:30] <cfs> Done.
[23:31] <tsimonq2> Unfortunately I'm running on little sleep so I have to go do that
[23:31] <tsimonq2> But I'll take a look at the queue within the next week, maybe less
[23:31] <cfs> It can keep, Sources for trusty-security has been broken seen 14 June, so it can last a few more days.
[23:31] <tsimonq2> Otherwise someone else will get to it
[23:31] <cfs> rather, since 15 June.
[23:31] <cfs> :D
[23:31] <cfs> np, thanks for the help.
[23:32] <tsimonq2> yw, thanks!


[16:31] <MrChrisDruif> Afternoon
[16:32] <MrChrisDruif> How of it going here?
[16:33] <MrChrisDruif> Of =	is
[16:35] <MrChrisDruif> I've been working on a more proper wiki page for the team. I'll continue to work on it when I'm on my computer
[16:35] <MrChrisDruif> ...tonight
[16:36] <MrChrisDruif> God, this is awful...typing on my smartphone
[16:36] <MrChrisDruif> I'll be back tonight, ttyl
[18:51]  * MrChrisDruif is working on our wiki area
[19:20] <MrChrisDruif> popey; can you remember where they announced working on Ubuntu TV?
[19:20] <AlanBell> MrChrisDruif: where is the wiki area?
[19:20] <MrChrisDruif> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTV but I'm still working on them
[19:28] <MrChrisDruif> AlanBell; ^
[19:31] <AlanBell> yup
[19:41] <popey> MrChrisDruif: marks blog
[19:42] <popey> http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/820
[19:42] <MrChrisDruif> And in the keynote, but I've got my Introduction part ready I think
[19:43]  * popey is going to http://www.apps-world.net/europe/workshops/tv-apps-world next week
[19:46] <MrChrisDruif> It was UK based if I'm not mistaken?
[19:49] <popey> y
[19:49] <popey> London
[19:50] <popey> just to be clear though MrChrisDruif we're not 'working on ubuntu tv'
[19:50] <popey> it was more mark saying he'd like to be in that space by then
[19:51] <MrChrisDruif> Hmmm, what DO we do then? =/
[19:52] <popey> well, we can start looking at stuff now, sure.
[19:53] <popey> I'm just saying that when mark made that aspirational blog post, that's what it was, an aspiration
[19:54] <MrChrisDruif> But doesn't that mean that we've got "permission" to start looking at what Unity/Ubuntu on the telly should look like?
[19:55] <MrChrisDruif> Or are we just a brainstorm group which can get nothing achieved?
[20:02] <popey> well the announcement about tv, phone and tablet on the design blog indicated that this was a way to spark discussion. http://design.canonical.com/2011/11/ubuntu-phone-tablet-and-tv-discussion-opened/
[20:02] <popey> and it's certainly done that
[20:02] <popey> the list has been quite active with ideas, which is exactly what was asked for ☺
[20:03] <popey> where it goes from here, I don't know, ask Will or Mika I guess.
[20:03] <popey> also interesting that the blog post shows not only TV, Phone and Tablet, but IVI too.
[20:04] <MrChrisDruif> IVI?
[20:04] <popey> http://www.canonical.com/content/canonical-joins-genivi-and-announces-ubuntu-version-vehicle-infotainment
[20:05] <MrChrisDruif> Btw, only TV has been active. I've not seen much activity in phone or tablet (I don't think ANY activity in tablet)
[20:06] <MrChrisDruif> Ah, right, what he also showed in his keynote speech. You could see a carputer
[20:06] <popey> exactly
[20:06] <popey> TV does seem to have captured some imagination
[20:06] <MrChrisDruif> Apparently the correct term is IVI
[20:06] <popey> tablets and phones less so I guess because the hardware is harder
[20:06] <popey> less accessible
[20:06] <popey> yeah, IVI because it's not just cars
[20:06] <popey> planes..
[20:07] <AlanBell> well tablets would be the desktop OS with multitouch doing useful stuff
[20:07] <MrChrisDruif> I would say that TV's are harder in terms of accessibility
[20:08] <MrChrisDruif> I was thinking the same. Ubuntu (Desktop) is pretty aimed towards touch input I think
[20:08] <MrChrisDruif> Maybe some more multi-touch features and it's set.
[20:08]  * MrChrisDruif thinks anyway
[20:09] <MrChrisDruif> I WAS thinking about sprucing up the phone mailing-list/IRC after the jump start of TV
[20:10] <popey> AlanBell: i am not so sure
[20:10] <popey> unity might be okay, but the apps under it aren't at all touch friendly
[20:10] <popey> small buttons, lots of menus etc
[20:11] <popey> look at thunderbird and imagine what that would be like on a touch interface for example
[20:11] <AlanBell> I guess
[20:11] <AlanBell> not really used a tablet
[20:12] <popey> next time you see me I'll thrust my ipad in your hands
[20:12] <popey> its a very different experience
[20:12] <AlanBell> ok
[20:12] <MrChrisDruif> Well, there could be 2 solutions for that. Either specific tablet/phone apps or make all apps touch friendly
[20:12] <popey> everything full screen for one
[20:12] <popey> many of the same issues that TV has tbh
[20:12] <AlanBell> well with the next generation of tablets having mega high resolution screens that might change things
[20:12] <MrChrisDruif> But with the second you get a lot of the desktop users in the wry
[20:13] <MrChrisDruif> There are PHONES coming with HD resolutions
[20:14] <popey> resolution isnt the issue. the try navigating the gimp menu on a touch device
[20:14] <popey> holding your finger, dragging, holding, dragging... oops, i lifted my finger, bam there goes the menu
[20:15] <AlanBell> I used to use a desktop os on a tablet computer with a stylus
[20:15] <MrChrisDruif> Well, the Gimp isn't exactly the right example with all it's window tbh
[20:16] <MrChrisDruif> But "modern" tablets can't use pens, they are capacitive
[20:16] <MrChrisDruif> + screens
[20:17] <AlanBell> popey: is the ipad just a big iphone?
[20:17] <AlanBell> in terms of user interface
[20:19] <MrChrisDruif> Pretty much so
[20:19] <MrChrisDruif> Same with Android I think
[20:19] <AlanBell> so tablets don't really get their own thing
[20:20] <MrChrisDruif> How do you mean?
[20:20] <AlanBell> they are either a scaled down desktop OS or a scaled up phone OS
[20:20] <AlanBell> there isn't a tablet sized OS
[20:20] <MrChrisDruif> I was just recalling what I've heard/seen. I think it is pretty much documented on the web
[20:21] <MrChrisDruif> I would love a desktop on a tablet which is touch friendly =)
[20:22] <MrChrisDruif> But when the tablet os is a scaled-down desktop, it's not touch friendly and the other way around it's not feature-full in my eyes. It's "missing" something
[20:25] <MrChrisDruif> But AlanBell, if you are interested in ubuntu-tablet, come join us @ #ubuntu-tablet
[20:35] <popey> AlanBell: well, android have tabletified their UI
[20:35] <popey> so android 3 and 4 are designed for tablets
[20:35] <popey> but 2.x was for phones
[20:35] <popey> 2.x and 3.x are arguably merged in 4.x
[20:35] <MrChrisDruif> They are
[20:36] <MrChrisDruif> It were two OS's until Android 4, which will be released on both phones and tablets
[20:37] <MrChrisDruif> Alright, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTV is done for now
[20:41] <MrChrisDruif> Any comments popey or AlanBell ?
[20:42] <popey> will take a look later, just eating my tea :D
[20:42] <MrChrisDruif> Is it thát strong? =P
[21:17] <dmj726> Well, there has been some discussion about tablet UI but it was before the current list
[21:17] <dmj726> I think people jumped on the TV because it was the most "out there" and least well defined
[21:18] <imnichol> dmj726: That's why I personally got into tv, although it's also just because it seems to have the most active community
[21:19] <dmj726> I think there is a lot of good work done already wrt apps on phones
[21:20] <dmj726> Maemo/Meego did a pretty great job phonifying desktop apps
[21:20] <dmj726> a big thing was making the menus finger friendly
[21:20] <dmj726> That said, the best apps for said device put effort into simplifying the GUI
[21:27] <MrChrisDruif> dmj726; imnichol; did you see the new wiki page I created?
[21:28] <imnichol> Yeah
[21:28] <imnichol> IT looks good, although the link in the "meetings" section is broken
[21:28] <imnichol> I'd fix it myself but I'm not familiar with how these pages should be laid out
[21:34] <MrChrisDruif> imnichol; I'm working on that page atm ;-)
[21:35] <MrChrisDruif> Almost done (I hope, few more minutes)
[22:15] <MrChrisDruif> imnichol; /Meetings should work now
[22:15] <imnichol> Oh righteous
[22:17] <imnichol> That's awesome
[22:17] <MrChrisDruif> Yes, the link to the meeting notes is ALSO broken
[22:17] <MrChrisDruif> It is next up on the list
[22:41] <MrChrisDruif> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/Meetings/20111123 is also functioning now
[22:54] <MrChrisDruif> imnichol; ^ Should be https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTV/Meetings/20111123 and is now functioning
[23:25] <MrChrisDruif> Alright, it's on the mailing-list =)