[22:20] <lcb> Ubuntu, after removing the proprietary driver on "Additional Drivers" do failsafeX and reconfigure graphics
[22:20] <samtate> ActionParsnip: No, sorry
yeah ...but the driver is installed(worked with 10.10)....all i get is a screen with launcher but the cursor
[22:20] <alaruz> ohsix: Okey perhaps I have misunderstood how the applet really works. I migrated from vista to 10.10 this fall on my laptop, but even after natty-upgrade yesterday this issue is still present for me. I had the same user setup in windows without does issues.
[22:21] <html_inprogress> hello ? english?
[22:21] <Diosjoe> Hello, after updating to 11.04 i could use unity, but after first reboot after the update, it jumps straight to the old design, if i log the user out, i get a lot of graphic disortion, mouse pointer missing etc, though if i relog in i have a slight chance of getting unity back, until i reboot... help please << anymore information needed?
[22:21] <econdudeawesome> Howdy all. Is there anyway to make nano word wrap without linebreaks?
[22:21] <_Mr_Proper_> Is there an easy way to see if hardware acceleration is actually working? My original issue was that the additional drivers window says the nvidia driver is activated but not in use...  Things seem a little sluggish :)
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> samtate: ok try: options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1       instead
with nvidia driver installed
[22:21] <lcb> Ubuntu, i know but there are some issues, among xorg not working with some graphics
[22:21] <curiousx> can someone help me ?
[22:22] <ny51bern> lcb:  theres a help button on the dialog when it asks me to choose that says " a new version of config file /etc/default/grub is avail, but the version installed has been locally modified
[22:22] <Soothsayer> is ext4 file system faster than ext3?
[22:22] <_Mr_Proper_> glxinfo | grep rendering == direct rendering: Yes, so I guess to some extent its working
[22:22] <ny51bern> lcb: that help?
[22:22] <lcb> curiousx, i'm one among more curiousx on what to help
[22:22] <samtate> ActionParsnip: I'm just adding this to the bottom of the file right?
[22:22] <BlouBlou> Soothsayer: it is
[22:22] <ohsix> alaruz: i'd presume that the current foreground user would get access, it might be a bug if that isn't the case
[22:22] <html_inprogress> whats the 10.04 ubuntu channel?
[22:22] <BlouBlou> html_inprogress: You're on it
[22:22] <ohsix> Soothsayer: it's faster in some circumstances, theres no comppsite number and it's also slower in some circumstances
[22:22] <Diosjoe> Can anyone help me with me gfx issues
[22:22] <BlouBlou> Diosjoe: Sure, ask it
[22:22] <lcb> ny51bern, yes, sure
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> samtate: yes, remove the one you tried before each time
will this be fixed soon...'cas i heard this issue in the internet
[22:23] <Soothsayer> I screwed up my laptop while upgrading.. now it can't find the mount for /
[22:23] <Soothsayer> reformatting the whole thing
[22:23] <ohsix> Kyubey: well there's your problem, pulse is refusing to start because you don't own your home directory, or it's permissions are too lax
[22:23] <Soothsayer> Do I have to define swap space during installation ?
[22:23] <Kyubey> ...what
[22:23] <Kyubey> How do I not own my home directory?
[22:23] <lcb> Ubuntu, hopefully yes, because i'm a junk computer colector
[22:23] <karth> anyone know how to modify unity so it doesn't do font scaling?
[22:23] <alex_> j #ubuntu
[22:23] <ohsix> Kyubey: are you running it as root?
[22:23] <ny51bern> lcb: any ideas?
[22:23] <alex_> woops
[22:23] <lcb> ny51bern, yes, update
[22:23] <Diosjoe> Bloublou,ive been running ubuntu fine, until i updated to 11.04. After upate it booted nicely with the new design. But after first reboot, it loads into old design, though works without glitches, unless i log out, then the gfx screws up
[22:23] <Kyubey> oh, woops
[22:24] <Kyubey> Okay
[22:24] <ohsix> it's a user level service
[22:24] <Kyubey> I typed sudo as an automatic thing
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> Kyubey: if you use sudo as little as possible, you won't break file ownerships
[22:24] <Rockj> Q: This new unity stuff, the tool bar at the top is rather annoying , I want the tool bar to be attached to my windows again so I can still continune to use "focus with mouse move" .. how do I fix this in unity?
[22:24] <ohsix> it'll be a fun day when that does something really bad
[22:24] <lcb> ny51bern, backup your /home dir to play on the safe side
[22:24] <Kyubey> ohsix, I ran the same command as normal, it said it "Failed to kil daemon: No such file or directory"
[22:24] <Diosjoe> if i login again, through the gfx mess, i might be lucky to have the new design back up, with no glitches, but still if i reboot it goes back
[22:24] <Neosano> Diosjoe, in my life I did 3 upgrades, none of these decisions were good.
[22:24] <ny51bern> lcb: theres no option to update..?
[22:24] <ohsix> Kyubey: then it started normally?
[22:25] <haroon> hello
[22:25] <Diosjoe> Neosano, so your saying format, install straight to 11.04 instead of updating
[22:25] <haroon> I need help
[22:25] <ohsix> Rockj: you probably wan't the classic session then, pick it on the login screen after clicking on your name
[22:25] <Kyubey> ohsix, huh?
[22:25] <Ubuntu> lcb:why is it not working after all...canonical says it is for netbooks...with less requirement....and yet it seems not to work(my one frnd had the same problem)
[22:25] <haroon> I just installed 11.04
[22:25] <samtate_> ActionParsnip: Still no :/
[22:25] <html_inprogress> well thats a whole lots of confusion,, i tried like 5 min ago and  there was like 88 ppl on that irc, and no one around did they  move it?    (#ubuntu)
[22:25] <Kyubey> ohsix, it said it failed to kill the daemon because there's no such file or directory
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> haroon: please use one line
[22:25] <alishah> hi, what is the most lite weight browser available in ubunutu?
[22:25] <ohsix> Kyubey: pulseaudio -k && pulseaudio tries to kill it, then run it again
[22:25] <Neosano> Diosjoe, well, you can upgrade, but be prepared for some things to get fucked up
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> samtate_: do you reboot in between?
[22:25] <Kyubey> ohsix, yeah, but it's saying there's no such file or directory
[22:25] <Diosjoe> Neosano, well i guess thats what happend
[22:25] <samtate_> ActionParsnip: Yeah of course
[22:26] <Kyubey> ohsix, when it tries to kill it
[22:26] <ohsix> Kyubey: that is fine, forget it, just run pulseaudio -vvv and see what it isays
[22:26] <Rockj> ohsix: hm, ok. ill try that. so ubuntu still got gnome?
[22:26] <kapare_> Hello, does anyone have ATI card with ubuntu 11.04 and OpenGL working??
[22:26] <Diosjoe> Well, ill format and reinstall it soon
[22:26] <samtate_> ActionParsnip: Unity is just really fast at starting
[22:26] <Diosjoe> though i must give PROPS to all devs
[22:26] <Diosjoe> on ALL improvements
[22:26] <BlouBlou> samtate_: It depends of your hardware
[22:26] <Diosjoe> i already love 11.04
[22:26] <ohsix> Rockj: yea, ubuntu still is 99.99% gnome, unity is a plugin for compiz which is an alternative window manager
[22:26] <Soothsayer> Do I have to define swap space during installation ? Does sawp require a separate partition?
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> samtate_: hehe, all I can recommend is you find the option you need for your make and model system
[22:26] <ohsix> Soothsayer: it doesn't require a separate partition, but you should use one if you can
[22:26] <samtate_> ActionParsnip: How can I find my sound card. Is there a command?
[22:26] <haroon> I just installed 11.04 at my labtop lenovo B560 .Wireless was working in 10.04 using broadcom now wireless isn't working please help
[22:26] <Ubuntu123> lcb::::
[22:26] <ohsix> Soothsayer: so you can hibernate to it
[22:27] <html_inprogress> alishah,  in what way ? lite ram its firefox
[22:27] <Soothsayer> ohsix: ye, I want to hibernate it
[22:27] <Soothsayer> ohsix: I have 3 gb of ram on this laptop.. so how much swap space?
[22:27] <scorch_> Is there any way to continue an aborted 10.10 to 11.04 upgrade?
[22:27] <Soothsayer> 4 GB ?
[22:27] <Kyubey> lots of text
[22:27] <ohsix> haroon: install the firmware with b43-fwcutter or use bcmwl-kernel-source
[22:27] <Rockj> ohsix: but ubuntu dev's really should look at moving the "toolbar" top back to the windows agains, other then that unity looks sweet
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> samtate_: most are just intel compatible things, there is an alsa-info script on the sound troubleshooting documentation, it will tell you a lot
[22:27] <Kyubey> and it doesnt appear to be done
[22:27] <Soothsayer> or shall I make it 4.5 GB in case I plan to upgrade to 4GB?
[22:28] <Neosano> Soothsayer, you can change the size later
[22:28] <ohsix> Soothsayer: sure, i did 6 because i have a lot of stuff that lives on swap most of the time
[22:28] <resixian> is there not yet an 11.04 netbook edition?
[22:28] <blurgh> Is there any way to get global menus fixed in applications that not yet have it implemented?
[22:28] <arand> resixian: It was merged with desktop
[22:28] <Neosano> Soothsayer, but yeah, swap must be a little bit bigger than your memory
[22:28] <resixian> arand: ah, there is still a link on the alternative dl page
[22:28] <tauntaun> Is there anyway to encode a DVD onto my ipod using Rhythmbox?  If not, can another application do it?
[22:28] <Soothsayer> Neosano, ohsix ok. And what file system should it use? ext4?
[22:28] <resixian> arand: thx
[22:28] <alishah> html_inprogress: I tried firefox, its not lite enough.. I just want one with cookies js n flash support no fancy features?
[22:28] <Ubuntu123> lcb::
[22:28] <Kyubey> ohsix, it stopped, it's not done yet, but new text isnt printing anymore
[22:29] <Kyubey> ohsix (but I dont have a new prompt
[22:29] <Neosano> Soothsayer, for swap?? there's no filesystem for swap
[22:29] <ohsix> Rockj: well, there was a design and they fleshed it out, and a review period that was long and before the rerlease so theres not much to say about it now :\ they might bin it if it's no good ;]
[22:29] <ohsix> Kyubey: ok pulse is running now
[22:29] <arand> resixian: I think the fault link has been noted already..
[22:29] <ohsix> Kyubey: try and open the mixer
[22:29] <Kyubey> oh!
[22:29] <Neosano> Soothsayer, for you system you'll be good with ext4
[22:29] <Kyubey> it worked!
[22:29] <Soothsayer> Neosano: I'm creating a partition here using gparrted for it.
[22:29] <pattysmatty> how do i enable vlc player or divx player for firefox?
[22:29] <Soothsayer> ok
[22:29] <ohsix> Kyubey: ok now close the mixer, hit ^C in the terminal, then open the mixer again
[22:29] <truepurple> How do I install flash for 64bit ubuntu?
[22:29] <samtate> hi
[22:29] <Neosano> Soothsayer, just choose SWAP, it doesn't ask for filesystem
[22:30] <haroon> I installed it from synaptic but no change
[22:30] <samtate> In Ubuntu 11.04 on my laptop, sound works fine on the internal speakers, but plugging in external ones cuts it out
[22:30] <html_inprogress> alishah,  restate your question, i dont understand
[22:30] <Kyubey> ohsix - now it says "waiting fo the sound system to respond"
[22:30] <scorch_> Is there any way to continue an aborted 10.10 to 11.04 upgrade?  It froze on me and I had to reboot.  now it says on bootup drive "/" not ready and my system will not star
[22:30] <pattysmatty> how do i enable divx player for firefox?
[22:30] <ohsix> Kyubey: fuser -v /dev/snd/* again
[22:30] <alishah> I want a browser that takes lesser ram and processing thn firefox n chrome.
[22:31] <Diosjoe> scorch_ i think no
[22:31] <alishah> html_inprogress: want a browser that takes lesser ram and processing thn firefox n chrome.
[22:31] <Kyubey> ohsix, doesnt print anything
[22:31] <Neosano> samtate, it's your laptop feature, you can't change this behavior
[22:31] <samtate> alishah: Midori by elementary team
[22:31] <Soothsayer> Neosano: that's in gparted?
[22:31] <samtate> Neosano: Was that a joke? It worked in Windows
[22:31] <Soothsayer> or during installation ?
[22:31] <alishah> samtate: thanx buddy will check it out.
[22:31] <ohsix> alishah: it all comes down to what you browse pretty much regardless of the browser; the internet is getting more complicated
[22:31] <Rockj> ohsix: hm, so what you are saying is that they had a design issue about it, and they dropped it and implemented it just as faulty as it is done in OS X? or do you mean it's design document is long over due and accepted a long time ago? if the last one, can I still submit a ticket and hope for it getting fixed in the future?
[22:31] <Neosano> samtate, oh, then try alsamixer or gamix
[22:31] <html_inprogress> pattysmatty,  you can have divx player for ubuntu?
[22:31] <scorch_> Diosjoe, so I have tostartover from scratch?
[22:31] <trism> truepurple: if you mean the preview 64bit one here  http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10_square.html you can just unzip it and copy it to ~/.mozilla/plugins and it should work with both chromium and firefox
[22:31] <ohsix> Kyubey: then pulse isn't autospawning properly by itself, did you do anything funny like try and get it to run in system mode or mess with it's config files?
[22:32] <pattysmatty> html_inprogress, well at least a codec...
[22:32] <pattysmatty> that plays those
[22:32] <Kyubey> ohsix, no
[22:32] <truepurple> trism:  How do I copy it to there?
[22:32] <maxflax> lcb - didn't help much
[22:32] <Kyubey> ohsix - I installed this last night, all I've done is install xchat and set a few compiz shortcuts
[22:32] <perlsyntax> anyone know how to get a truemobile pc card that wireless to work on ubuntu?
[22:32] <html_inprogress> pattysmatty,   ghow  do i get that?
[22:32] <alishah> ohsix: I don't mind if it loads pages a bit slower, i don't want it to affect other apps am running with it.
[22:32] <perlsyntax> 1150
[22:32] <Diosjoe> scorch_ if this installation was aborted under operation, at some random point you have stopped the process,i dont think the can compare the builds and fix the errors
[22:32] <ohsix> Rockj: i said the time for input has mostly passed for things like that, it's not faulty it's just new
[22:33] <samtate> In Ubuntu 11.04 on my laptop, sound works fine on the internal speakers, but plugging in external ones cuts it out. Any advice?
[22:33] <maxflax> lcb - to bad that log doesn't tell what the problem is.. is a really crappy logging feature
[22:33] <perlsyntax> anyone
[22:33] <pattysmatty> html_inprogress, idk... i accidentally deleted mine a hwile back
[22:33] <pattysmatty> it sucks though
[22:33] <Diosjoe> Like if your installing a game or something else scorch_
[22:33] <webstrand> Why is the distribution upgrade trying to remove a bunch of my games?
[22:33] <Neosano> Soothsayer, oh, when it asks for file system choose linux-swap
[22:33] <Neosano> Soothsayer, that's for swap of course
[22:33] <Diosjoe> if you plug the power, it messes things up
[22:33] <ohsix> alishah: then you need to use something like links that doesn't even load images or anything but text; but seriously once you start doing anything else you're pretty much loading what you browse regardless of what's doing it
[22:33] <scorch_> ok
[22:33] <Soothsayer> Neosano: baa, i chose ext4
[22:33] <trism> truepurple: either using nautilus or if you are in the same directory with it: mkdir -p ~/.mozilla/plugins; cp libflashplayer.so ~/.mozilla/plugins
[22:34] <Soothsayer> and im already in the installer..
[22:34] <Diosjoe> Scorch_ where you updating or installing from scratch?
[22:34] <perlsyntax> someone got to know something on wlan-ng driver
[22:34] <pattysmatty> how do i get the divx plugin
[22:34] <resumenes> hello!
[22:34] <truepurple> trism: How do I even find that directory?
[22:34] <Rockj> ohsix: obiously it is faulty when you drop functionality that has been in unix systems since their beginning.( Being able to focus windows just by moving your mouse ...)
[22:34] <maxflax> I have problem upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 and this is my apt.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/600970/
[22:34] <Neosano> Soothsayer, don't worry
[22:34] <Soothsayer> Fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed!
[22:34] <mrstocks> wwwwwaaaaaaaaaahhh 11.04 whaaaaaaaat
[22:34] <resumenes> hello!
[22:34] <Soothsayer> what is that message?
[22:34] <ohsix> Kyubey: well if nothing has been messed with it should be auto spawning; i don't know what to say
[22:34] <mrstocks> all the menus are like.... left and right
[22:34] <Neosano> Soothsayer, after installation you can run live cd and change your partitions any way you want
[22:34] <resumenes> any spanish=
[22:34] <resumenes> ?
[22:34] <maxflax> I have problem upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 and this is my upgrade log  http://paste.ubuntu.com/600970/
[22:34] <mrstocks> i cant see the control panel to move them
[22:34] <samtate> In Ubuntu 11.04 on my laptop, sound works fine on the internal speakers, but plugging in external ones cuts it out. Someone told me about a script on the alsa website the other day that I could use to fix it, but I cant remember what it was
[22:34] <trism> truepurple: ctrl+h in nautilus shows hidden directories, and ctrl+L lets you type in paths
[22:34] <Kyubey> I'm gonna try restarting
[22:34] <ohsix> Rockj: no, they didn't remove anything; it's entirely new, that's a red herring
[22:34] <resumenes> any spanish to talk?
[22:35] <tauntaun> Is there anyway to encode a CD onto my ipod using Rhythmbox?  If not, can another application do it?
[22:35] <z0mbyk1d> apparently not many people read about the changes in natty before they upgraded... getting so goddamned sick of people whininc about how they dumbed it down
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> !es | resumenes
[22:35] <z0mbyk1d> i am enjoying the upgrades personally, but then again I only run server edition!
[22:35] <ohsix> Rockj: and even asserting it was a good idea when it was added "in the beginning" is another red herring, you simply like it, therefore it is a good idea
[22:35] <tauntaun> In other words, is there something like iTunes for Ubuntu?
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> tauntaun: use soundjuicer
[22:35] <Soothsayer> ok, i rebooted and that error went away.
[22:35] <Soothsayer> Strange stuff with the 11.04 installer.
[22:35] <alishah> samtate: Can you tell me the name of the browser again please. am using irssi n i don't know how 2 scrol up.
[22:35] <Mac_Weber> I followed this tutorial to install tomcat. However, it is not auto starting at boot. http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/installing-tomcat-6-on-ubuntu
[22:35] <Diosjoe> tauntaun tried googling, Itunes linux
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> tauntaun: or you can use rhythmnbox or banshee to put songs onto it
[22:36] <samtate> alishah: Midori
[22:36] <Rockj> ohsix: you still break compability with work flow that's been working since the "80's". Now your doing the same mistake as Apple have done, making the toolbar stuck at the top so your unable to access it at all if your using auto focus by mouse...
[22:36] <Mac_Weber> I'm on ubuntu 10.04. How to fix it?
[22:36] <alishah> samtate: thanks :)
[22:36] <ohsix> Rockj: i sympathize but it's not a useful way of thinking if you want to improve it, you simply want what you like and use added to the new thing, which kind of defeats the purpose a little
[22:36] <z0mbyk1d> Mac_Weber: did you update-rc.d\
[22:36] <KM0201> tauntaun: itunes alternatives under linux aren't very good IME... i eventually just started runing xp in vbox, and syncing my ipod w/ itunes
[22:36] <conical> is it a bad, bad idea to try and use my ubuntu box as a DNS server for my home intranet?
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> tauntaun: some versions of itunes will run in some versions of wine
[22:36] <Neosano> tauntaun, like someone knows what is itunes, lol, I never got a point of it.
[22:36] <ohsix> Rockj: it's a mistake from your perspective
[22:36] <truepurple> trism:  ~/.mozilla the ~ is what ever your name is listed as? Then create a directory called plugins and just drop the file in?
[22:36] <Mac_Weber> z0mbyk1d: just type update-rc.d?
[22:36] <ohsix> Rockj: it's a design decision from someone elses perspective
[22:36] <z0mbyk1d> Mac_Weber: type man update-rc.d
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> conical: not at all, it will speed up the web :)
[22:36] <z0mbyk1d> and learn a bit
[22:36] <z0mbyk1d> you need to define what runlevels tomcat should start at
[22:36] <trism> truepurple: yep, ~ is your home directory, so if your username is truepurple, it would expand to /home/truepurple
[22:37] <escott> conical, your router will usually want to be a dns, but you might be able to turn it off
[22:37] <conical> is there an "easy" way to do it
[22:37] <z0mbyk1d> look under /etc/init.d too to see if tomcat created a script for itself
[22:37] <Kyubey> Haha
[22:37] <Kyubey> ohsix
[22:37] <pattysmatty> firefox4 is shit
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> conical: I put a dns server on allmy systems as tey will cache resolutions, speed up the web nicely
[22:37] <ohsix> haroon: installed which one? b43-fwcutter has a script you need to run to do it, and bcmwl-kernel-source would need a reboot, or at least an rmmod ssb & b43 then modprobe wl
[22:37] <z0mbyk1d> depending on how it was installed it may not have
[22:37] <conical> i can point the router to my home machine
[22:37] <Kyubey> ohsix, guess what? Restarting fixed it XD
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> pattysmatty: keep it family friendly please
[22:37] <trism> truepurple: but ~ is automatically expanded, so you can actually type a ~
[22:37] <escott> conical, rather i mean dhcp
[22:37] <Kyubey> ohsix, I think it might be because I was hibernating
[22:37] <ny51bern> lcb: is that "install the package maintainer's version"
[22:37] <tauntaun> Well I have Rhythmbox running, but I have no sense of where to find a 'rip' command, like the 'encode' of iTunes.  Any ideas?
[22:37] <Neosano> conical well maybe you need something smaller than ubuntu?
[22:37] <ohsix> pattysmatty: if you need help or have a question please ask, otherwise take offtopic things to #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:37] <Rockj> ohsix: bad design decision then if I may say so ;-)  But does this Unity have a project side so I at least can make a ticket about it?
[22:37] <ny51bern> lcb: option
[22:37] <scorch_> Diosjoe updateing
[22:37] <ohsix> Kyubey: highly unlikely re: hibernating
[22:37] <conical> a second machine to just do dns
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> conical: you'd tell yoursystems to use the DNS system first, you can set interfaces to DHCP (address only)
[22:38] <z0mbyk1d> ok, quitting in prep to reboot into 10.04 on this server
[22:38] <pattysmatty> ActionParsnip, how do i get a divx codec running in firefox???
[22:38] <mrstocks> Where is my menu!!!!!
[22:38] <z0mbyk1d> got a long way to go before i am on natty hehe
[22:38] <truepurple> trism then just create that directory with that name and plop the file in?
[22:38] <Kyubey> ohsix - anyways, it's working now
[22:38] <Kyubey> Thanks for your help :)
[22:38] <Diosjoe> scorch_ ok, then i would really say, better get reinstalling from scratch
[22:38] <mrstocks> the admin, apparenance and stuff
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> conical: could install a caching proxy too so you don't have to download from the web when you need content if  the newest files are stored already
[22:38] <Neosano> conical, maybe this will help? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/best-distro-for-dns-server-435160/
[22:38] <mrstocks> i have pointless ones
[22:38] <conical> it's probably better to stay away since I don't fully understand it, and doing it improperly could rip a hole in the universe
[22:38] <Karen_m> what's the best flowcharting software for ubuntu?   Know how there is freemind, I was hoping there is something lightweight like it to do flowcharting.
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> pattysmatty: no idea, I don't use it
[22:38] <samtate> In Ubuntu 11.04 on my laptop, sound works fine on the internal speakers, but plugging in external ones cuts it out. Someone told me about a script on the alsa website the other day that I could use to fix it, but I cant remember what it was
[22:38] <ohsix> Rockj: theres ayatana which is the cabal running the show, but they're designers and programmers, i don't think they're much accepting that sort of idea, they have a concept already; you at best can ask for them to account for your use-case, if you provide it
[22:38] <ny51bern> can any1 help with installing ubuntu 11?
[22:38] <conical> well, more like bring down my home network, but close enough
[22:38] <maxflax> I have problem upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 and this is my upgrade log  http://paste.ubuntu.com/600970/
[22:39] <samtate> ny51bern: I can, what do you need?
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> samtate: do you have the alsa link it made?
[22:39] <samtate> ActionParsnip: What do you mean?
[22:39] <scorch_> Diosjoe, ok that sucks,  Ill lose everything
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> samtate: you ran the alsa-info script, right?
[22:39] <ny51bern> samtate: ive gotten pretty far (updating from 10 to 11, but a dialog popped up asking :What do you want to do about the modified configuration file grub" ?
[22:39] <samtate> no, you didnt tell me too
[22:39] <Diosjoe> scorch_ how many GB data you want to save?
[22:39] <truepurple> trism: Then just create that directory with that name and plop the file in?
[22:39] <ohsix> Kyubey is going to be back next time pulse closes & doesn't auto spawn :[
[22:40] <samtate> ActionParsnip: You didnt tell me to, so I havent
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> samtate: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh
[22:40] <trism> truepurple: yes, exactly, just copy and paste it there
[22:40] <scorch_> Diosjoe,my home directory.  can 28 GB.  can I copy it to a External and then copy my whole home dir over ontop of the newly installed?
[22:40] <Diosjoe> scorch_ how about using the live cd and taking copys of anything you want to say,
[22:40] <Diosjoe> yes
[22:40] <trism> truepurple: after you extracted it that is, it should be called libflashplugin.so
[22:40] <deuterium> hm can i convert my ubuntu 10.04 ext4 partition into a ext2 partition? i think i can't shrink my vmware image if the partition is formatted as ext4.
[22:40] <Rockj> ohsix: that's my plan, I would love to hear their input on it. As it seems ubuntu is making Unity the default window manager, I better give them a heads up about the issue ASAP. All the people ive learned linux over the years, they have loved the "mouse focus" feature and other neat features that is pretty common in the world of *nix compared to Windows.
[22:40] <AndrewEMT> ok one quick question... how do I switch the video driver from the nouveau driver to the proprietary NVidia driver (its installed and activated but the Additional drivers app says its not currently in use)?
[22:41] <Diosjoe> scorch_ put in your ubuntu and boot in live, copy your files,etc external
[22:41] <samtate> ActionParsnip: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=fa638cc776341f0bf3ac4f750616a7469bd7390b
[22:41] <Rockj> ohsix: so may I ask what this ayatana is? website? tracker? *opens google*
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> AndrewEMT: You may need to run:  sudo nvidia-xconfig
[22:41] <scorch_> Diosje ok then after I install I can just opy mysaveed home directory over the new home directory?
[22:41] <AndrewEMT> thanks ActionParsnip will try that
[22:41] <Acriax> Hi, how do I switch from the classic ui to Unity on the login screen? I can't find any button of the sort
[22:41] <JPeterson> well this 11.04 upgrade seems to have went well
[22:42] <truepurple> trism: The file I want to copy is called libflashplayer.so?
[22:42] <JPeterson> first I had to recover grub from the live cd
[22:42] <Soothsayer> Wow
[22:42] <JPeterson> then I get "error no suitable mode found"
[22:42] <AaeRohn> *pokes around* My scanner isn't working... I got the driver and everything, and the printer part of it works, but it doesn't scan... can anyone help?
[22:42] <scorch_> Diosje then I whoould just have to reinstal the prgrams realted
[22:42] <JPeterson> and not a single line of boot text
[22:42] <Soothsayer> Installer crashed. We're sorry, the instalelr crashed...
[22:42] <Diosjoe> scorch_ yes isee no problem in that
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> samtate: try:options snd-hda-intel model=auto
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> samtate: or options snd-hda-intel model=laptop
[22:42] <truepurple> trism: The file I want to copy is called libflashplayer.so?
[22:42] <scorch_> Is there a 11.04 music version?
[22:42] <samtate> ActionParsnip: We already tried the second one remember
[22:43] <mrstocks> 10.04 thinks im a retard do you want to "Check your email?" "Listen to music?" do i have the mum edition?
[22:43] <scorch_> what it called
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> samtate: then try the first.,...
[22:43] <AndrewEMT> ok, so that will switch it right? Just reboot not ActionParsnip
[22:43] <AndrewEMT> now*
[22:43] <scorch_> ubuntu studio 11.04?
[22:43] <Diosjoe> scorch_  what do you mean, music version
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> AndrewEMT: you can restart X or reboot
[22:43] <Diosjoe> oh no
[22:43] <AndrewEMT> ok, thanks bud... appreciate the help :)
[22:43] <samtate> ActionParsnip: ok in a sec
[22:43] <Diosjoe> But there is loads of linux audio tools, etc audiocity
[22:43] <Micc0> I guess they all need to hear from a woman who's ex-boyfriend tracked he through her phone and assaulted her.
[22:43] <Soothsayer> freak, what was that
[22:43] <swatto> Im trying to download the upgrade and only downloading at like 70kb/s - is that normal?
[22:43] <Diosjoe> maybe prologic or cubase supports linux
[22:44] <AaeRohn> *pokes around* My scanner isn't working... I got the driver and everything, and the printer part of it works, but it doesn't scan... can anyone help?
[22:44] <mrstocks> how do you move the menu?
[22:44] <strigoi66_> please help... need wifi drivers for acer aspire 5000 on ubuntu 11.04 look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/600975
[22:44] <aj00200> 9/w 56
[22:44] <karth> anyone know a way to disable font scaling in unity? my title bar is really screwed up, everything looks 8 bit
[22:44] <Mac_Weber> z0mbyk1d I tried "update-rc.d tomcat start 99 2 3 4 5 S . stop 0 1 6 ." as described in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1188880&highlight=tomcat+autostart Did not work yet
[22:44] <Diosjoe>  swatto - Yes
[22:44] <swatto> Diosjoe, a good so its not my connection playing up then?
[22:45] <Diosjoe>  swatto - from .DK i downloaded from a 50MB line and got in the start between 15-45 KB/s and then in the end came to 150-200 but only a litle
[22:45] <ohsix> Rockj: i think you're making the common fallacy of assuming that your use is the same as an uncounted number of users
[22:45] <Diosjoe> its not your connection, its routing + alot of people getting data fra the ubuntu network
[22:45] <maxflax> I have problem upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 and this is my upgrade log  http://paste.ubuntu.com/600970/
[22:45] <swatto> Diosjoe, ahh ok
[22:45] <samtate> why is firefox so fricking bad?
[22:45] <Diosjoe> Many updating, downloading images, getting drivers, fixingetc
[22:45] <Diosjoe> ;)
[22:45] <phibxr> swatto, use the torrent, gave me 1MB/s. :)
[22:45] <ohsix> Rockj: while that may be true, you can only make the case for yourself; not use these untold number of people to seemingly firm up your position
[22:46] <swatto> phibxr, how would i go about doing that? shall i cancel this upgrade tool thing then?
[22:46] <lcb> maxflax, sorry, i have visitors here. try going to recovery again (SHIFT | - select the 2nd kernel  option from the top = recovery mode | go to the end of the new menu and select "root prompt" and type ' sudo dpkg --configure -a ' see if that helps.
[22:46] <scorch_> Diosjoe:  Just found it...  its there:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/11.04release_notes
[22:46] <phibxr> swatto, oh, you're upgrading. nevermind then. no idea. :)
[22:46] <ny51bern> samtate: any ideas?
[22:46] <AndrewEMT> ok still says its activated but not in use... sheesh
[22:46] <Diosjoe> Nice scorch
[22:46] <samtate> ny51bern: LOL
[22:47] <phibxr> swatto, i usually keep my /home partition intact and perform clean installs instead. :)
[22:47] <ny51bern> samtate: ?
[22:47] <samtate> ny51bern: you cant install ubuntu
[22:47] <ny51bern> samtate: why not?
[22:47] <samtate> ny51bern: i dunno, i made that up
[22:47] <ny51bern> samtate: well thanks for ur help =.=
[22:48] <AaeRohn> anyone available to help with a printer/scanner issue?
[22:48] <samtate> ny51bern: i would help you, but i dont know
[22:48] <peteb> Hai guys, is there a specific gnome3 channel?
[22:48] <ohsix> AaeRohn: they might, but you need to tell them the issue first
[22:48] <Rockj> ohsix: ok, but I still would love to submit the ticket - so where would be the best place to do so? And is there any other Unity intro/tutorial with common usages? Unity looks like OS X but is there like shortcuts for minimizing windows like in OS X etc?
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> AaeRohn: askaway
[22:48] <samtate> AaeRohn: me
[22:48] <trism> truepurple: yes, that is correct
[22:48] <samtate> AaeRohn: whats the matter?
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> Rockj: press Winkey + D
[22:48] <Diosjoe> Im going to buy a touchscreen monitor now that unity works this great
[22:48] <lcb> btw, what i wrote before goes for every unfinished upgrades. hopefully it works
[22:48] <truepurple> trism: Thanks, I see you said that earlier, but I missed that in the sea of text
[22:49] <Rockj> ActionParsnip: that minimizes every window ActionParsnip . Possible to minimize only the selected window pr. default?
[22:49] <ExplodingPiglets> xkill is not working on firefox
[22:49] <trism> truepurple: it's okay, it's really flying because 11.04 just came out
[22:49] <ExplodingPiglets> I opened one of these unclosable meatspin links.
[22:49] <harovali> hi , where do I set the default console font ?
[22:49] <harovali> in ubuntu 11.04
[22:49] <AaeRohn> well I did try a couple times... I have a Brother MFC-6490CW and the printer works fine, but the scanner does not... I have both the printer, and scanner drivers for this model for linux, but it still doesnt work
[22:49] <Soothsayer> "Fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed"
[22:50] <Acriax> How come my top bar is all grey and boring? Is obsidian-coloured and cool-looking right after I log in, then it flickers and changes to the old boring one.
[22:50] <ExplodingPiglets> Can somebody help me? I am tiring of seeing a spinning phallus jumping around my computer
[22:50] <Soothsayer> why do I get that message while it boots into the 11.04 installer ?
[22:50] <truepurple> trism: I also need help with setting up a ati driver for me radeon 6850 so I can use 11.04, can you help me with that?
[22:50] <computergeeksjw> Just installed ubuntu and booted up fine. I selected the option to install the proprietary driver and selected the new driver (instead of the installed but inactivated driver). After rebooting, the system locks up after login. I can move the cursor but can't click on anything.
[22:50] <trism> truepurple: better to ask the channel, I don't have any ati cards
[22:50] <ExplodingPiglets> Well, thanks for the help guys.
[22:50] <AndrewEMT> anyone know why despite my running sudo nvidia-xconfig it still says the driver is activated but not currently in use? Am i missing something here?
[22:50] <computergeeksjw> It's an nvdiia card
[22:50] <strigoi66_> Hello, how do I get wireless drivers for natty on acer aspire 5000 laptop I have tried the following: http://paste.ubuntu.com/600975
[22:50] <truepurple> Anyone able to help me set up a driver for a radeon 6850?
[22:50] <Diosjoe> computergeeksjw
[22:51] <mrstocks> anyone has teamviewer to me with a UI question?
[22:51] <Diosjoe> are you using ATI card?
[22:51] <ExplodingPiglets>  sarcasm :Unknown command
[22:51] <Diosjoe> truepurple
[22:51] <Diosjoe> is it installed already, but not working correctly?
[22:51] <computergeeksjw> Diosjoe: Nvidia
[22:51] <truepurple> It is installed, but its abilities are limited, I can not set it past 800x600, and apparently may be the reason 11.04 won't load for me
[22:51] <truepurple> Diosjoe:
[22:52] <AaeRohn> ActionParsnip, samtate: (in case you didnt see it, forgot to add names) well I did try a couple times... I have a Brother MFC-6490CW and the printer works fine, but the scanner does not... I have both the printer, and scanner drivers for this model for linux, but it still doesnt work
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> Rockj: There is a custom command section, you may be able to put a code in one then assign a shortcut to run that command. I'd ask in #compiz
[22:52] <Diosjoe> computergeeksjw sorry dont know about nvid
[22:52] <mrstocks> i can't find the "allow the menu to move" in 10.04 its driving me mad!
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> AaeRohn: what is the output of:  uname -m
[22:52] <Diosjoe> truepurple, what?
[22:52] <truepurple> Diosjoe: It is installed, but its abilities are limited, I can not set it past 800x600, and apparently may be the reason 11.04 won't load for me
[22:52] <computergeeksjw> Anyone else?
[22:53] <lucas> Someone please help... I try to build a custom live cd with nvidia drivers on it. Is there any way to automate at bootup the process of chosing the nvidia driver instead of nouveau? If so is there a way to have mesa for computers which haven't nvidia?
[22:53] <Diosjoe> mrstock under preference, try Launcher & Menus
[22:53] <AaeRohn> ActionParsnip: i686
[22:53] <teehvi> hi, updated to 11.04 and firefox 4 doesn't show my bookmarks toolbar. any idea where could i find it?
[22:53] <AndrewEMT> ok, maybe I'll uninstall and reinstall the driver... maybe that will help...
[22:53] <Diosjoe> truepurple, can you do sudo lspci | GREP ATI
[22:53] <basso> how can i add /usr/games to my x sessions?
[22:53] <Tetsuo55_2> i hope canonical is keeping the devs active during this weekend, unity has some really annoying bugs that make the desktop unusable
[22:53] <truepurple> Diosjoe: You want me to type that in a terminal? What does it do?
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> AaeRohn: so you installed: http://www.brother.com/pub/bsc/linux/dlf/brscan3-0.2.11-4.i386.deb
[22:54] <Diosjoe> it tell us about your gfx card
[22:54] <computergeeksjw> Is there a way to boot up and log in without activating the driver? Is that recovery mode?
[22:54] <Diosjoe> truepurple, yes in terminal, first write sudo su, enter your code, then lspci | GREP ATI
[22:54] <AaeRohn> ActionParsnip: the only drivers available for the printer/scanner, so yes
[22:54] <fholmes> What is the best way to configure the SATA controllers in my BIOS?  As AHCI devices?  Or just standard IDE devices?
[22:54] <mrstocks> can i revert to the old distro version?
[22:54] <cache_surplus> hello, im trying to ubuntu 10.10 32bit on a windows xp laptop. when i boot to cdrom, windows xp continues to own the laptop...
[22:54] <mongy> Diosjoe, lowercase grep
[22:54] <n3glv> quick natty question, on remix it was possible to use ubuntu desktop instead of unity, is that feature still in natty?
[22:54] <truepurple> Diosjoe: May we please talk in PM?
[22:54] <Soothsayer> Anyone experienced the "Fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed!" ?
[22:54] <cache_surplus> usb not an option
[22:55] <Soothsayer> n3glv: yes
[22:55] <cache_surplus> netboot not an option, no pxe
[22:55] <Diosjoe> Thanks mongy
[22:55] <Diosjoe> Yes true
[22:55] <karth> n3glv: @ login screen, select ubuntu classic
[22:55] <Soothsayer> n3glv: you can pick it during your login screen
[22:55] <lcb> Soothsayer, boot from live cd or usb and check the file-system
[22:55] <n3glv> cache_surplus: sounds like an issue with grub installer
[22:55] <lucas> n3glv: It is, running classic desktop right now
[22:55] <Soothsayer> lcb: i've booted.. reformattinig it to ext3 now
[22:55] <n3glv> ok Soothsayer so, same as unr, just hit the user then select at bottom?
[22:55] <cache_surplus> cdrom boots, verified by disabling hd with switch+1 on pheonix bios set up
[22:55] <cache_surplus> n3glv: oh?
[22:55] <samtate_> ActionParsnip: Any more suggestions?
[22:55] <lcb> Soothsayer, why ext3?
[22:56] <lucas> Someone please help... I try to build a custom live cd with nvidia drivers on it. Is there any way to automate at bootup the process of chosing the nvidia driver instead of nouveau? If so is there a way to have mesa for computers which haven't nvidia?
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> samtate_: keep searching for those options, one will make it fly
[22:56] <cache_surplus> n3glv: i think its a bios proprietary issue,,, maybe your right, can you help assist in trbshting?
[22:56] <karth> n3glv: if classic doesn't work, try  classic without effects, had to to get it to work on an old machine.
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> cache_surplus: how did you make the install CD?
[22:56] <n3glv> cache_surplus: beyond me, but yes check bios setting
[22:56] <samtate_> ActionParsnip: What should I even search for?
[22:56] <Soothsayer> n3glv: yes
[22:56] <Soothsayer> lcb: for some reason ext4 has never worked on this laptop.
[22:56] <ohsix> lucas: you can't distribute that
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> samtate_: alsa-base.conf then the model of your system
[22:57] <lcb> Soothsayer, oh... weird
[22:57] <tauntaun> OK, I've figured out how to copy a track from CD to Rhythmbox's Music folder.  Now how do I get it into my iPod?
[22:57] <cache_surplus> ActionParsnip: the cd boots right up when hd is disabled in bios
[22:57] <Soothsayer> lcb: tried it on 10.10 too.. used to not format.. this time it formatted to ext4.. but the installer crashed
[22:57] <cache_surplus> ActionParsnip: that should answer that
[22:57] <tauntaun> (...I've tried a number of things, none of which work.)
[22:57] <ohsix> lucas: and instaling the proprietary nvidia drivers involves a lot of ugly, you can't generally have both; but there are a bunch of python scripts that try and pick the right one to use
[22:57] <lcb> Soothsayer, what utility are you using to format?
[22:57] <cache_surplus> ActionParsnip: furthermore, i have tried multiple os, cd's, burn speeds so forth...
[22:57] <n3glv> my other small beef is that on this old pc, I stuck in the 11.04 disk, it said there was upgrade, I said ok, and it's getting EVERYTHING via my slow interrnet, has not hid the cd at all
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[22:57] <ActionParsnip> cache_surplus: i see, maybe you need a bootoption. Is the system a branded PC or laptop
[22:57] <n3glv> what's the point to offering upgrade from cd if it then uses the internet?
[22:57] <cache_surplus> ActionParsnip:  xp will only load on this, and also, oh.. um
[22:57] <Stameni1> join #what ?
[22:58] <Stameni1> what ?
[22:58] <lucas> ohsix: This is not to distribute... Only for my own personalised usb-stick
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> n3glv: did you use the alternate cd?
[22:58] <cache_surplus> ActionParsnip: there is cdrom, hd, net, floppy, thats it
[22:58] <wilbur_cobb> turning gentoo into ubuntu step by step... can it be done?
[22:58] <m3t4lukas> what is slashnames?
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> cache_surplus: what make and model is the system?
[22:58] <n3glv> ActionParsnip: no, normal narwal desktop i386
[22:58] <cache_surplus> ActionParsnip: toshiba satellite, an older one, prolly with usb 1.0 ports
[22:58] <wilbur_cobb> not really my serious intention, just asking for the hell of it
[22:58] <cache_surplus> brb
[22:58] <ardchoille> slashnames: Please don't highlight people like that
[22:58] <ohsix> lucas: then why can't you just install ubuntu to the usb stick, then install the nvidia drivers?
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> n3glv: then that won't work. The upgrade doc clearly states you need the alternate cd
[22:58] <karth> m3t4lukas: apparently, a bot that is designed to irritate people.
[22:59] <n3glv> cache_surplus: for usb try looking for usb options like enhanced or 2.0 vs 1.1
[22:59] <coolkid25> ActionParsnip: Can you please help me fix Ubuntu?
[22:59] <n3glv> ActionParsnip: I find this out, after starting a NINE HOUR UPGRADE!
[22:59] <Soothsayer> lcb: gparted
[22:59] <cache_surplus> n3glv: one moment ok,,, ActionParsnip for a second
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> cache_surplus: what model satelite?
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> n3glv: researching is useful
[22:59] <cache_surplus> ActionParsnip: 3005-s307, part# ps302u-019xdx
[22:59] <Rockj> hm, gnome3-session depends on a package named gnome-shell which isn't in the repos?
[22:59] <cache_surplus> ActionParsnip: im not that fast
[22:59] <Soothsayer> brb reboot
[23:00] <cache_surplus> n3glv: explain. thanks
[23:00] <lcb> Soothsayer, delete and then format ext4?!... (try setting the bios to defaults and also detecting properly the disks
[23:00] <lucas> ohsix: tried this method, but when I go to a computer with an ATI card I haven't acceleration...
[23:00] <wilbur_cobb> nine hour upgrade? mehehe, we gentoo users laugh at that
[23:00] <n3glv> meh, I just expect that when it's sensing a cd with newer version and offering to upgrade, that it would do it from CD media
[23:00] <cache_surplus> there is no usb boot option in bios
[23:00] <n3glv> wilbur_cobb: ricer! <wink>
[23:00] <toto654> hi everyone...i jsut found out ubuntu 11-04
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> n3glv: if you want to clean install you have the right cd
[23:00] <computergeeksjw> Is there a way to temporarily disable loading of graphics drivers?
[23:00] <wilbur_cobb> ?
[23:00] <cache_surplus> ActionParsnip: agrees
[23:00] <toto654> why you all talk about gnome3 but its unity
[23:01] <cache_surplus> i have the right os
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> computergeeksjw: add the bootoption:  modulename.blacklist=1
[23:01] <ohsix> lucas: the proprietary drivers are decidedly not nice, it's probably a situation you'll have to live with if you use them
[23:01] <n3glv> computergeeksjw: interrupt grub loader, init=0
[23:01] <n3glv> ooops 1
[23:01] <n3glv> if u want networking, init=3
[23:01] <ohsix> lucas: nouveau ships with natty, maybe you can get by without any proprietary drivers
[23:01] <cache_surplus> ActionParsnip: ill wait, thanks...
[23:01] <strigoi66> Help please, need wifi driver for natty on acer aspire 5000 laptop I have tried the following( http://paste.ubuntu.com/600975 )
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> cache_surplus: try setting the sata to ide mode, look in BIOS for options
[23:02] <lucas> ohsix: till maverick I made a script that copied or removed an xorg.config in the case there was an nvidia driver
[23:02] <ohsix> gross
[23:02] <lucas> ohsix: Now I see xorg.config got obsolete
[23:02] <cache_surplus> ok
[23:02] <rgr> its not obsolete at all
[23:02] <ohsix> it was obsolete then
[23:02] <AaeRohn> anyone who can help with scanner issue that's not being occupied with somoene else at the moment?... My scanner (MFC-6490CW) will not work with Simple Scan, or Xsane Image Scanner, even though I have all the drivers installed... this is part of my income, so I need the scanner to work
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> lucas: its not, if one exists it will be obeyed
[23:02] <cache_surplus> ActionParsnip: ok, ill try that... that might be it..
[23:03] <Neosano> sudo apt-get install firefox will install firefox 4 or 3?
[23:03] <ohsix> you can still put configuration options in an xorg.conf but you shouldn't want or have to; if something is broke it's probably a bug
[23:03] <shane4ubuntu1> ok, on movie player (totem) the right arrow key used to advance 1min and the left went backwards 10 or 30 seconds, they don't work anymore?????
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> cache_surplus: if you also try the boot option:  noacpi   it may help
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> Neosano: which release ?
[23:03] <rgr> obsix : there are loads of bugs.
[23:03] <Neosano> ActionParsnip, I'm on 11.04
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> !info firefox natty | Neosano
[23:03] <testbe> hello please help me
[23:03] <ohsix> rgr: i'm confident you're filing them instead of just complaining about them
[23:03] <testbe> i bought a new pc
[23:03] <n3glv> strigoi66: you try lspci or dmesg|more to find out the manufacturer of the wifi?
[23:03] <testbe> and i want install ubuntu on
[23:03] <Caly> hi folks
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> Neosano: its in a default install so isn't required to be ran
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> !download | testbe
[23:04] <ninjai> just came from beta, fresh install of 11.04.  I get a weird scale icon in the bottom right corner of some windows (google chrome), and sometimes a blue triangle in the top left corner when I use unity.  WTF?
[23:04] <testbe> yes and
[23:04] <Neosano> ActionParsnip, haha. well I'm on lubuntu. :D ok thx
[23:04] <rgr> ohsix: You would be correct on the former. Stop misleading people. There are oodles of cases where an xorf.conf is required. It is not true to say its obsolete.
[23:04] <strigoi66> n3glv: no, will try now .
[23:04] <ohsix> rgr: the bugs are cases where people need to do workarounds, the default should work
[23:04] <lucas> ActionParsnip: Believe me, it worked... It was scripted to do a delete during bootup, or to copy a customized xorg.config.nvidia in it's place
[23:04] <testbe> i dont want to use unity or gnome 3
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> Neosano: I see, nice.Lubuntu kicks ass
[23:04] <rgr> ohsix: this is simply not true.
[23:04] <ohsix> rgr: if you need one, you are doing something wrong, full stop
[23:04] <Rockj> AaeRohn: is it a usb scanner? open up a terminal, type dmesg , take note of latest "timestamp" on the last entry. Plug in your scanner and type dmesg again, does it seems to register and be handed of to any device?
[23:04] <rgr> ohsix:  then you dont know what youre talking about.
[23:04] <Neosano> ActionParsnip, yeah, especially the last version :>
[23:04] <testbe> i dont want to use unity or gnome 3
[23:04] <Caly> i updated to 11.04 today, and it totally  fucked up my system, no it won't even boot from CD =/
[23:05] <ohsix> rgr: i do, sorry to break it to you
[23:05] <rgr> xorg.conf contains a lot more than nvidia info and xrandr doesnt work on many cards.
[23:05] <computergeeksjw> ActionParsnip: how do I add that?
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> testbe: gnome3 isn't part of ubuntu default. You can boot to traditional desktop if you don't like unity
[23:05] <testbe> okaz
[23:05] <ohsix> rgr: you'll notice that the manual pages for the xorg drivers are still there so you can add workarounds in exceptional situations
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> !bootoption | computergeeksjw
[23:05] <daniel__> i dont know whats wrong i had wifi before the upgrade but now i have no wifi (10.10 - 11.04) it doesnt evan glow the little led light that says wifi
[23:05] <rgr> and if you set up multiple mointor then the nvidia settings writes to xorg.cof still. You're talking through your arse.
[23:05] <ohsix> rgr: you say "many", but it's just nvidia's proprietary driver re: xrandr
[23:05] <OY1R> can anyone help me fix this boot up problem, i cannot boot Ubuntu 10.10 >  http://paste.ubuntu.com/600969/
[23:05] <testbe> actionParsnip: do you know if you can limit the desktops to 1
[23:05] <AaeRohn> Rockj: that's a long list >.> *starts looking through for the scanner*
[23:05] <testbe> in unity
[23:05] <n3glv> testbe: at user prompt screen click user, then select in text at bottom of screen, ubuntu desktop
[23:05] <rgr> Look, I use use nvidia for years on multi monitor. I know you're wrong.
[23:05] <Caly> daniel__: seems i'm not talone then...
[23:06] <ohsix> rgr: that is an exceptional case with the proprietary nvidia driver, and that's nvidias problem, complain to them
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> testbe: sure, in ccsm
[23:06] <ardchoille> rgr , ohsix Can you take that to another channel please?
[23:06] <Neosano> !info kupfer natty
[23:06] <Neosano> old :<
[23:06] <basti> is there an easy tool to merge a srt subtitle into a mkv video file?
[23:06] <rgr> ohsix: it is the users problem.
[23:06] <ohsix> rgr: that's great, you know nvidia's driver is awful; good on you
[23:06] <ohsix> rgr: users have nouveau and xrandr
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: works great here :)
[23:06] <testbe> actionParsnip: then i thing i like unitz
[23:06] <cache_surplus> ActionParsnip: ok, no sata option, also, at boot i press <C> to force boot cdrom, xp splash still loads...
[23:06] <daniel__> Caly, why would they make an update that goes backwards theres no up about this blows im using my phone to tether right now ...
[23:06] <arand> OY1R: What kind of filesystem setup do you have?
[23:06] <testbe> my problem always if i maximed an window
[23:06] <testbe> it was on another desktop
[23:06] <Rockj> AaeRohn: just look at the botton, "dmesg" shows you system messages (important ones basically) , I wanted you to type it once before you plugged in the scanner just to notice what has already been printed, then a second time after you have plugged it in. That way you could easily see what is new messages ;-)
[23:06] <alishah> exit
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> cache_surplus: did you try the boot option?
[23:06] <daniel__> i dont know whats wrong i had wifi before the upgrade but now i have no wifi (10.10 - 11.04) it doesnt evan glow the little led light that says wifi
[23:06] <Caly> daniel__: i'm using Trisquel on another computer...
[23:07] <testbe> actionParsnip: then i thing i like unity
[23:07] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: multiple monitors & static config?
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> cache_surplus: could try booting usb instead
[23:07] <testbe> it was on an other desktop
[23:07] <OY1R> Arachon, it's the 10.10 default i think it's ext4
[23:07] <Maxud> Hello I am force installing 32 bit driver for printer on 64 bit system, and I get many dependence errors, what I need to install
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: only got one monitor for 4 PCs
[23:07] <testbe> my problem always if i maximed an window
[23:07] <rgr> lucas: bottom line is that xorg.conf is NOT obsolete. There are cases where you can get by without one. Its still a transition time. Idiots saying "blame nvidia" are on a moral crusade and not one to actually help you.
[23:07] <cache_surplus> ActionParsnip:  no usb option
[23:07] <Soothsayer> 11.04 installed this time.. looks like some issue with ext4
[23:07] <OY1R> arand, , it's the 10.10 default i think it's ext4
[23:07] <testbe> it was on an other desktop
[23:07] <daniel__> Caly, we shouldnt have to lol its not like were playing with a beta why did we lose our wifi ?
[23:07] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: then you don't get the pleasure of what we're talking about
[23:07] <lucas> c'mon guys I'll accept nouveau made some good progress, but it's way slower than the prop thingy
[23:07] <arand> OY1R: Try reinstalling grub.
[23:07] <ohsix> rgr: you're on a moral crusade my friend
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: I use xorg.conf, yes
[23:07] <ohsix> lucas: indeed, but now it's in wide use
[23:07] <arand> !grub | OY1R
[23:07] <n3glv> cache_surplus: some pc do not show the option unless device is connected/has a disk in it
[23:07] <cache_surplus> ActionParsnip: i am wondering if i need to make a usb 1.0/1.1 boot disk and try that... maybe it will show up as a HD
[23:07] <Caly> daniel__: that's not all i lost, i cant even boot up
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: no, it works well
[23:07] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: my condolences
[23:07] <daniel__> i dont know whats wrong i had wifi before the upgrade but now i have no wifi (10.10 - 11.04) it doesnt evan glow the little led light that says wifi
[23:08] <rgr> lucas: nouveau is garbage compared to the ndiai one. Look up using sgfxi for your nvidia setup.
[23:08] <daniel__> Caly, why whats wrong with that
[23:08] <cache_surplus> n3glv: i tried usb install first before cd, usb first then cd always for me
[23:08] <Caly> i do get the ubuntu boot screen for a ew seconds when i turn it of... =(
[23:08] <testbe> ActionParsnip, do you think, in 11.10 is still an gnome 2 _
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: the xorg.cof file is older than ubuntu, it works well so I use it :)
[23:08] <cache_surplus> im wondering if i should try a usb 1.0 flash drive, since this an oldddd laptop
[23:08] <ohsix> rgr: nvidia is garbage because it doesn't do xrandr 1.2+
[23:08] <Caly> i just get a bunch of test / terminal boot sequence stuff
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> testbe: it is
[23:08] <testbe> ok
[23:08] <ohsix> rgr: but one is free and can be improved
[23:08] <jon_gee> hey guys any of you experience this error after 11.04 install? "fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed"
[23:08] <n3glv> cache_surplus: on some pc I have to go into the boot options page (f-10 or 12) to see the cdrom as bootable
[23:08] <ninjai> can you change the 'shortcuts' in the unity menu?
[23:08] <rgr> ActionParsnip: ohsix is talking nonsense. In many many many cases you need an xorg.conf. It is NOT obsolete : end of story.
[23:09] <jeff__> can someone help me with a question about compiz
[23:09] <cache_surplus> i need a tool set of disks/usbs/1.0/2.0 it seems to have any luck with installing ubuntu on any box sighs...
[23:09] <daniel__> so is ubuntu 11.04 not done yet and should i have wated to download it ? because i have no wifi at all
[23:09] <ohsix> rgr: in many EXCEPTIONAL cases, you may need one
[23:09] <cache_surplus> n3glv: im done with the basics, i need the work around
[23:09] <lucas> rgr: that's correct about nvidia. If nouveau comes that far, I will surely use it... After all I am an avid open-source fan too, but if something works good I have to accept it
[23:09] <Soothsayer> is it possible to virtualize my dual-bootable Windows 7 within Ubuntu ?
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> rgr: i know its not obsolete.  preeching to the choir dude
[23:09] <cache_surplus> F2
[23:09] <Maxud> Hello I am force installing 32 bit driver for printer on 64 bit system, and I get many dependence errors, what I need to install
[23:09] <Caly> and i fet a fail message from "*Stopping automatic crash report generation
[23:09] <Soothsayer> so I don't have to restart to go back to windows
[23:09] <n3glv> cache_surplus: might need to use the alternate cd
[23:09] <vivid> rgr, thats correct, not having one does not suffice for specialized video setups
[23:09] <ohsix> rgr: but you don't want one if you aren't in an exceptional situation, it's highly higly contraindicated
[23:09] <rgr> Ah ok, I cant stand people misleading others in a help channel as he is doing.
[23:09] <AaeRohn> RockJ: okaaay... did so... but how is knowing what th emessages say help me get the scanner working?
[23:09] <jon_gee> any one get this error after 11.04 install " hey guys any of you experience this error after 11.04 install? "fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed""
[23:09] <cache_surplus> n3glv: nope, been there done that,, your right, but im past that stage
[23:09] <shane4ubuntu1> no one know of totem?  I can't even drag the slider to go forward or backward on a file, very odd, is that a bug?
[23:09] <AndrewEMT> Ok, have tried everything I know here... the NVidia driver still come up activated but not currently in use under the additional drivers app
[23:09] <n3glv> cache_surplus: make sure there is nothing that's 'protecting' your boot sector
[23:09] <rgr> lucas: sane as. I write code for FSF but I use what works.
[23:10] <daniel__> does anyone here know anything about the reason why internet wouldnt work if i had it before the update and dont know
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> Maxud: you will need to pull down the deb for the deb, extract the file and copy .so file to /usr/lib32
[23:10] <cache_surplus> this is the second laptop i have had an issue with the past month for a customer
[23:10] <Rockj> AaeRohn: paste the info here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[23:10] <rgr> daniel__: ipv6 possibly.
[23:10] <jeff__> is compiz disabled when you install ubuntu with the Wibi installer
[23:10] <cache_surplus> n3glv: have you used freebsd? that wouldnt even allow me to load it
[23:10] <ohsix> rgr: if you're literally talking about an xorg.conf being loaded and read, you're right; it still does that
[23:10] <jon_gee> any one get this error after 11.04 install " hey guys any of you experience this error after 11.04 install? "fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed""
[23:10] <daniel__> rgr, whats that ?
[23:10] <coreire> Hey, I'm having a little trouble with grub. I have Ubuntu 11.04, Windows 7, and Mandriva 2010.2 installed. I installed ubuntu last and installed the bootloader along with it. When I choose Windows 7 from the menu the system immediately reboots. I've tried the system tools on the Windows 7 disc and it says it can't find any problem with the windows installation. Any ideas on what I should do? Thanks
[23:10] <Caly> ehrmm... is 11.04 a really fubar update?
[23:10] <rgr> daniel__: google
[23:10] <cache_surplus> im pretty sure this is a bios hardware issue or something proprietary
[23:10] <n3glv> cache_surplus: last freebsd I used was 2.2.2
[23:10] <n3glv> ;-p
[23:10] <ohsix> rgr: i thought you were just talking about being on a help channel
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> jeff__: if the default packages can give 3d accelleration then compiz will be used
[23:11] <cache_surplus> n3glv:  well,,, its improved since then lol
[23:11] <ohsix> !google | rgr
[23:11] <n3glv> of course, first slackware was 0.0.9
[23:11] <g0t> Results for | rgr on Google:
[23:11] <g0t> --
[23:11] <cache_surplus> anyway, im gonna try to find a usb 1.0 next... ill be back
[23:11] <n3glv> 56 floppies to get the libs to compile the kernel
[23:11] <rgr> I told him what area to look for. ipv6.
[23:11] <orbiting> Um, just upgraded to Natty. Anyone else using eclipse?
[23:11] <karth> Caly: It's not really making it easy
[23:11] <jon_gee> any one get this error after 11.04 install " hey guys any of you experience this error after 11.04 install? "fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed""
[23:11] <cache_surplus> and also the #hardware room suggested i upgrade the bios .. typical
[23:11] <klunky999> hello everyone
[23:11] <n3glv> cache_surplus: seen a few usb sticks that would not boot
[23:11] <Caly> karth: huh, what?
[23:12] <ohsix> rgr: if you have information you want to provide, provide it; google provides results almost unique to each user, it will find different things than a google search you run will
[23:12] <klunky999> im with problems with ubuntu and windows 7 grub loading already posted here
[23:12] <karth> Caly: a lot of people have had frozen installers, and unity doesn't work for a lot of people,
[23:12] <strigoi66> n3glv: this is what i got from lspci http://paste.ubuntu.com/601007
[23:12] <klunky999> http://askubuntu.com/questions/38201/grub-problem-with-windows-7
[23:12] <daniel__> rgr, so what do i do with this ?
[23:12] <karth> Caly: so, while it works great when installed fresh, upgrades are really not pleasant right now.
[23:12] <Caly> karth: so what do i do about it?
[23:12] <AaeRohn> Rockj: ok, now what?
[23:12] <cache_surplus> just a heads up, the last box i did, i even did a zero the drive with a maxtor 4.0 disk,,, that did not fix the issue
[23:13] <jeff__> I have an ATI 6970 card and installed the ATI CCC driver, but I don't seem to have Compiz support. Is it still located in the change apperance menu ?
[23:13] <n3glv> strigoi66:  Broadcom Corporation BCM4318
[23:13] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: what do you use xorg.conf for, adding modes?
[23:13] <cache_surplus> n3glv: regarding your mbr fix
[23:13] <Rockj> AaeRohn: paste the link here so I can take a quick look.
[23:13] <rgr> daniel__: who knows. I dont know the details. Look up ipv6 issues with Ubuntu. It *might* be the issue. I am merely giving you a pointer. ipv6 often fubars debian and ubuntu updates.
[23:13] <n3glv> u may have to play with google to find broadcom driver stuff
[23:13] <karth> Caly: What I'm oding... come in here, post your problems, and hope someone has some ideas.
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: I only use one mode
[23:13] <AaeRohn> Rockj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601009/
[23:13] <orbiting> jeff_ I have an nVidia card. Compiz is crapping out on me as well.
[23:13] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: if it's not probed by edid or something else that'd still be one ...
[23:13] <Caly> karth: yeah.. i wasn't goint to update before i moved stuff to mu NAS, but then last morning i got a big fat popup suggestin i do, so i did anywaas... quite a mean suggestion
[23:13] <rjaguar3_> I've been having lots of display issues with 11.04
[23:13] <strigoi66> n3glv: Thanks for the point in right direction.
[23:13] <daniel__> rgr, lol ok
[23:13] <ohsix> rgr: if you're not helping people it's probably not best to send them off in random directions either
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: yes, it needs one. Its an old monitor
[23:14] <coreire> Also, i've tried "update-grub" but it's still the same
[23:14] <truepurple> Since I updated to 11.04, my tomboy notes program has disappeared, how do I get it back? Would the files I made with it still be around?
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> jon_gee: do you have an onboard video chip and an agp / PCIexpress video card
[23:14] <jon_gee> hey guys any of you experience this error after 11.04 install? "fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed""
[23:14] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: roger, that's why i asked; it's a far more common special case than any of the other ones, and only needed for drivers that don't do xrandr :]
[23:14] <karth> Caly: yeah,  with the tiny amount of bandwith that people are getting for the install, its not cool that we all get it so fast.
[23:14] <n3glv> truepurple: synaptic?
[23:14] <Caly> ohsix: good going.
[23:14] <AndrewEMT> ok, nvm then... sheesh
[23:14] <truepurple> n3glv: I don't understand
[23:14] <n3glv> truepurple: may need to enable older repos
[23:14] <ohsix> Caly: hm?
[23:14] <syn3rgy> Unity imho was a bigger mistake then Vista was fro Microsoft.
[23:14] <klunky999> im with problems with ubuntu and windows 7 grub loading already posted here http://askubuntu.com/questions/38201/grub-problem-with-windows-7 , if anyone can help would be awsome \o
[23:15] <truepurple> n3glv: How do I do that?
[23:15] <ohsix> syn3rgy: #ubuntu-offtopic for opinions, this is a help channel
[23:15] <n3glv> truepurple: system > synaptic package manager
[23:15] <jeff__> no, my mb board doesn;t have onboard graphics
[23:15] <jon_gee> any onehey guys any of you experience this error after 11.04 install? "fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed""
[23:15] <Caly> ohsix: i meant telling rgr to stop with that ignorant shit
[23:15] <n3glv> truepurple: u can search in synaptic for apps
[23:15] <ohsix> Caly: shrug, people rarely know they're the exception to the rule when they're talking about their own habits
[23:16] <Caly> hehe
[23:16] <KNUBBIG> good evening everyone :)
[23:16] <Caly> good evening chybbt
[23:16] <Rockj> AaeRohn: by the looks of it, it seems to regonize your printer/scanner as a usb storage disc, interessting.  Let me do some research about your scanner
[23:16] <Caly> *chubby
[23:16] <Mac_Weber> I want to switch from apache2 to apache2-mpm-worker. If I do 'apt-get remove apache2' then install apache2-mpm-worker will it keep the old configuration? (such as vhosts)
[23:16] <truepurple> n3glv: I can't make heads or tales of what is in synaptic package manager, but I can't find any tomboy notes anyway
[23:16] <AaeRohn> Rockj: alright
[23:17] <Rockj> AaeRohn: while im searching, you might want to see if the instructions in this forum post helps you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195552
[23:17] <aj00200> Mac_Weber: I'm not sure, but you could always make a copy just in case
[23:17] <n3glv> truepurple: synaptic lists all the software on the pc, and can download/install more from the repository system
[23:17] <klunky999> im with problems with ubuntu and windows 7 grub loading already posted here http://askubuntu.com/questions/38201/grub-problem-with-windows-7 , if anyone can help would be awsome \o
[23:17] <Caly> is there some way i can fore a safe start something, and reverse this fubar upgrade?
[23:17] <truepurple> n3glv: Scratch that, found it, now what?
[23:17] <n3glv> it's like a super version of the ubuntu software thingy
[23:17] <Caly> *force
[23:17] <Karen_m> does upgrading to 11.04 break anything?
[23:17] <Mac_Weber> aj00200: what folders shall I copy?
[23:17] <n3glv> hit reload first truepurple
[23:17] <syn3rgy> ohsix true. I use ccsm extensively. I really need the 3D cube to work with the 3D windows due to the fact that I have 6 VM running all at once. Seems the not even Gnome will work with the cube now? Is this correct?
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> Caly: run:  sudo apt-get -f install
[23:17] <giampaolo> after installing 11.04 google-chrome no longer restore last closed session. Any idea?
[23:17] <Caly> Karen_m: i'd say hell yeah
[23:18] <Caly> ActionParsnip: need a promp first...
[23:18] <aj00200> Mac_Weber: I don't know. I figured you knew which files you needed to save.
[23:18] <Karen_m> caly, why is that?
[23:18] <Karen_m> so skip 11.04 for now?
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> Caly: boot to root recovery mode, or chroot from livecd
[23:18] <ohsix> syn3rgy: it should, compiz changed but not to that degree
[23:18] <Neosano> !info vuze natty
[23:18] <Soothsayer> Karen_m: not necessarily
[23:18] <Caly> Karen_m: ah, yrah, do that, wait a while, seems there is just a bunch of shit hitting folks that upgrades...
[23:18] <truepurple> n3glv: Mark for reinstallation? My saved notes should still be there, right?
[23:18] <Soothsayer> Karen_m: ye
[23:18] <aj00200> Karen_m: I guess Unity is just a matter of personal preference. If you like it, you keep it, but you can always switch back to Gnome, even on 11.04
[23:19] <n3glv> umm, yeah, think so
[23:19] <jon_gee> hey guys any of you experience this error during installation of new 11.04? "fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed""
[23:19] <ohsix> syn3rgy: you'll just need to set it up again as compiz changed from .8 to .9 and while theres a settings migrator, it does not migrate a lot of things, and .9 has all new settings
[23:19] <Soothsayer> Karen_m: I JUST experienced an upgrade issue
[23:19] <Karen_m> Soothsayer, what?
[23:19] <Soothsayer> formatting my whole laptop because of it
[23:19] <truepurple> n3glv: Do I select mark for reinstallation?
[23:19] <Caly> ActionParsnip: how do i boot to root recovery mode?
[23:19] <computergeeksjw> ActionParsnip: what was the boot option again?
[23:19] <n3glv> truepurple: I think so
[23:19] <tjiggi_fo> Karen_m, try it on a live CD first
[23:19] <klunky999> anyone can help me about grub  with ubuntu and windows 7 please ?? im desesperate
[23:19] <Karen_m> 10.10 sucked for my laptop, it would not use my wireless properly!  I wonder if 11.04 will work :)
[23:19] <syn3rgy> ohsix I guess I just need some time. Seems not to long ago that anybody that was not lynx, bitchX etc was just "blinky" junk.
[23:19] <n3glv> truepurple: may want to browse your dir, see if you can find files that u want to save
[23:19] <Soothsayer> Karen_m: and plus, the download rate for the packages is really slow, so wait for a few days maybe?
[23:19] <Caly> Karen_m: he also had a problem
[23:19] <jon_gee> hey guys any of you experience this error during installation of new 11.04? "fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed""
[23:19] <n3glv> truepurple: but I think it should work
[23:20] <n3glv> jon_gee: ever see this , USER ASKING FOR HELP KEEPS ASKING SAME QUESTION OVER AND OVER?
[23:20]  * n3glv sheesh
[23:20] <Rockj> AaeRohn: http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/download_prn.html#MFC-6490CW is some .deb packages you could download. But there is also some brother-* packages in ubuntu's repositories but Im unsure which one fits your scanner/printer hm.
[23:20] <n3glv> BEGGING EVEN
[23:20] <stittel> Hi! If I try to install the package "nvidia-96" on 11.04, Synaptic wants to remove the X server. What's going wrong there?
[23:20] <ohsix> Rockj: re: usb devices showing up as storage, they often do that now, and the disk mode contains drivers, then the drivers tell it to switch to the actual device; linux does that too, but it needs to know about the device to switch its mode, usb-modeswitch has a database of them, but this new device may need adding
[23:20] <Caly> as did i, as did daniel
[23:20] <syn3rgy> n3glv what question is that?
[23:20] <cache_surplus> how can i tell if i have a 1.0 or 2.0 usb stick plugged in? whats the command
[23:21] <syn3rgy> n3glv what question is that =P
[23:21] <truepurple> n3glv: I did that, but it still doesn't seem to be installed, do I need to reload?
[23:21] <n3glv> his recursive thing
[23:21] <Kevin`> n3glv: probably need to give them a link to a 'how to ask good questions' page
[23:21] <klunky999> anyone can help me about grub  with ubuntu and windows 7 please ?? im desesperate
[23:21] <n3glv> truepurple: wondering if just the shortcut is missing
[23:21] <computergeeksjw> ActionParsnip: what was the boot option you suggested about module blacklist
[23:21] <ohsix> stittel: -96 uses the old server abi and nvidia said they're not going to be updating them, so it conflicts with the server with the new abi
[23:21] <klunky999> http://askubuntu.com/questions/38201/grub-problem-with-windows-7
[23:21] <Caly> klunky999: furmat c:
[23:21] <AaeRohn> Rockj: that's the printer driver I installed, there's also a scanner driver for my MFC, and both are installed, and it still doesnt work
[23:21] <Caly> halps with windws issues
[23:21] <klunky999> Caly: ... im looking for solutions... really ...
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> computergeeksjw: modulename.blacklist=1
[23:21] <KNUBBIG> Caly: be patient
[23:22] <Caly> hehe
[23:22] <truepurple> n3glv: Well when I try to add it to my panel, its not listed as a option
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> computergeeksjw: you can blacklist whatever you want
[23:22] <syn3rgy> klunky999 windows will over write grub. Use a VM or install it first
[23:22] <cache_surplus> wow this room is way to busy,,, l8
[23:22] <ohsix> AaeRohn: if it only shows up as a usb drive, it needs to be added to the modeswitch database so it can be told to act like the actual device
[23:22] <KNUBBIG> klunky999: just tell your problem and we'll se who can help you
[23:22] <AaeRohn> Rockj: printer works perfectly, scanner doesnt
[23:22] <Kevin`> klunky999: you want to fix grub after installing windows second?
[23:22] <stittel> ohsix: If it can't be made working, why is "nvidia-96" even available as a package? I mean, this is a fresh default installation without any additional repos.
[23:22] <n3glv> truepurple: if u know the app name u could try launching it from command line (terminal)
[23:23] <daniel_> would some one be bale to help me find out why my wifi wont work the 11.04 update after it was already working in 10.10
[23:23] <ohsix> stittel: it does work, it just conflicts with the only server api available, so yea ... heh
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> AaeRohn: did you install the deb I gave?
[23:23] <klunky999> no, i had windows 7 installed, everything perfect, now i installed ubuntu 11.04 on a diferent partition, but same disk, ... when i log on grub now, i cant use windows, it just goes back to grub
[23:23] <AaeRohn> ohsix: do I still need to if it half-works? printer part of it works fine, the scanner part is what I'm having trouble with
[23:23] <n3glv> daniel_: may be missing a propriatary driver
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> daniel_: what is the output of:  sudo lshw -C network
[23:23] <syn3rgy> Oh SNAP one thing I hated with GDM (Gnome) was that I had to recompile it to work with Multiseating. Will Unity Multiseat??????
[23:23] <truepurple> n3glv: I wouldn't know how to do that, how do i search for a file?
[23:23] <ohsix> stittel: ask nvidia to support the new abi in older drivers, iirc they've already refused; you might have to live with an older release or nouveau
[23:23] <stittel> ohsix: What's the purpose of installing nvidia-96, when I don't have an X server after that? :)
[23:23] <n3glv> truepurple: ask google about a program called 'slocate'
[23:23] <Kevin`> klunky999: what's the entry for windows?
[23:24] <klunky999> how i check that Kevin`  ?
[23:24] <Caly> ActionParsnip: how do i boot to root recovery mode?
[23:24] <n3glv> it can search the hard drive for a file name
[23:24] <Kevin`> klunky999: pastebin it since it's probably a few lines
[23:24] <Rockj> AaeRohn: so only scanner doesn't work?  Are you in the scanner group?    Check by typing   "groups <your_username>" in the termianl to check your groups.
[23:24] <AaeRohn> ActionParsnip: I've had both printer and scanner drivers installed for a few days now
[23:24] <tully-> perl -e '$_="aeC ya rnco acIfp ucae,sr s";$_.=$1,print$2while s/(..)(.)//;' |sed 's/,/\n/
[23:24] <stittel> ohsix: Well, I can understand why it's not supported anymore. But in that case there should be no nvidia-96 package in the repos.
[23:24] <Kevin`> klunky999: /boot/grub/grub.cfg, or is it .conf
[23:24] <klunky999> ok
[23:24] <ohsix> stittel: good question, but that's the conflict on the package, has been for a long time; there just hasn't been a new server until natty
[23:24] <klunky999> just a min man
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> Caly: hold shift at boot, select recovery mode, select root
[23:24] <Kevin`> klunky999: oh, and did you delete a small useless looking windows boot partition when you installed ubuntu?
[23:24] <daniel_> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601015/
[23:24] <Rockj> AaeRohn: sudo adduser <your_username> scanner    should put you in the scanner group at least, that might give you the correct/enough permissions for the scanner program to detect your device maybe?
[23:24] <coolkid25> Can somebody please tell me how to fix Ubuntu?
[23:24] <ohsix> stittel: you could probably report a bug and have it removed for natty
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> AaeRohn: tried a few scanning apps?
[23:25] <KNUBBIG> coolkid25: what's your problem?
[23:25] <tully-> coolkid25, might help if you said the problem
[23:25] <AaeRohn> Rockj: checked, and nothing says scanner or printer... I am the only user on this computer
[23:25] <klunky999> Kevin`:  no i choosed the option run windows 7 with ubuntu together
[23:25] <ohsix> AaeRohn: ah no idea, i was reading into it something you hadn't said; my bad
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> daniel_: sudo lshw -C network     the C is capitalized
[23:25] <ninjai> i cant remember where i changed this before... but i need to remap F10 (as it pulls down menus from sys tray), where can i do this?
[23:25] <[snake]> Can I use different languages (in this case hebrew, which must go right to left) in the terminal?
[23:25] <AaeRohn> ActionParsnip: I've tried Simple Scan, Xsane Image Scanner, and GIMP
[23:25] <stittel> ohsix: Well, thanks anyways.
[23:25] <truepurple> n3glv: So ubuntu doesn't come with a file search option?
[23:25] <coolkid25> tully-: Ubuntu won't boot, when I choose ubuntu in the boot menu, all I get is some kind of GRUB command prompt.
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> AaeRohn: hmm, are there any bugs logged?
[23:25] <n3glv> truepurple: u need to do updatedb first
[23:26] <ohsix> Rockj: udev/consolekit should already be applying the correct permissions to those things without him needing to be put in some group
[23:26] <n3glv> truepurple: then locate tomboy
[23:26] <arch_is_awesome> Hello, anyone know what packages I need to use a dvd?
[23:26] <tully-> coolkid25, you do an update, fresh install, any recent changes?
[23:26] <Rockj> ohsix: I'm sure how you fix setting devices in correct usb-mode tho :/  Always got it fixed by either fixiing permissions to the device/being in correct group or getting the correct debian package which contains neccery drivers.
[23:26] <arch_is_awesome> I have dwd+rw-tools
[23:26] <AaeRohn> Rockj: no scanner group
[23:26] <ohsix> stittel: sorry theres no good news, does nouveau not work for you? it's getting a lot of attention with this release and should start improving even faster
[23:26] <n3glv> arch_is_awesome: k3b is cool
[23:26] <arch_is_awesome> I tried to install libdvdcss but it is not there.
[23:26] <di0x> arch_is_awesome, libdvdcss2
[23:26] <arch_is_awesome> ahh
[23:26] <truepurple> n3glv: What is "updatedb"? So ubuntu doesn't come with a file search program?
[23:26] <AaeRohn> ActionParsnip: only in the Xsane, "Invalid arguement"
[23:26] <Kevin`> [snake]: normally yes, but files are named what they are named, it could be.. interesting
[23:26] <Rockj> AaeRohn: hm, ohsix says that should be fixed automagically at booting if things are setup propertly. hm.
[23:26] <klunky999> here it is Kevin`
[23:26] <klunky999> http://paste.ubuntu.com/601023/
[23:26] <ohsix> arch_is_awesome: run /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[23:27] <_Geri_> hi
[23:27] <daniel_> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601024/
[23:27] <_Geri_> is something app-store like thingie in ubuntu, where i can sell softwares?
[23:27] <arch_is_awesome> Package libdvdcss2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[23:27] <Rockj> ohsix: wouldn't hurt for him to try  a "sudo adduser <his_username> scanner" ?
[23:27] <makaveli0129> ok my trash can says it's full but everytime i try to empty it my system slows way way down i tried from command line using rm -rf ~/.Trash/ and that completes with no error any idea on how to empty trash?
[23:27] <stittel> ohsix: It's marked as "highly experimental" and this is for a computer that will go to clueless people in another country without me being available for support. :)
[23:27] <n3glv> truepurple: the slocate app needs to be installed
[23:27] <Caly> ActionParsnip: ok, so i choose root - Drop to root shell prompt?
[23:27] <coolkid25> tully-: I upgraded Ubuntu last night to 10.10, and it worked fine then, and this morning.
[23:27] <tully-> upgrade to 10.10 or 11.04 because thats the one that just came out
[23:28] <AaeRohn> Rockj: as I ad, it's been a few days with these drivers and MFC
[23:28] <arch_is_awesome> ohsix: Thank you so much.
[23:28] <Caly> ActionParsnip: or netroot (...with networking"
[23:28] <AaeRohn> as I said*
[23:28] <arch_is_awesome> ohsix: Did it add medibuntu?
[23:28] <[snake]> Kevin`, I see what you mean... I found a multi-lingual terminal, but it is too simple and I don't know how to make it left to right.
[23:28] <ohsix> arch_is_awesome: no, it just grabbed one package from it
[23:28] <guntbert> !trash | makaveli0129
[23:28] <arch_is_awesome> Goodf
[23:28] <arch_is_awesome> *Good
[23:28] <demlasjr> hey guys does anybody have idea why my pc's screen is turning black or orange each 10-15 minutes ?
[23:28] <demlasjr> :(
[23:29] <coolkid25> tully-: I am on 10.10.
[23:29] <Caly> tully-: uptadating to 11.04 seems to be why this chan is now super active... many get tehir sysstem fucked up by it..
[23:29] <ohsix> demlasjr: intel or nvidia?
[23:29] <n3glv> demlasjr: power settings or screen save?
[23:29] <guntbert> makaveli0129: it seems they move it around a little :-))
[23:29] <n3glv> demlasjr: sleep mode?
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> Caly: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[23:29] <Kevin`> klunky999: show the output of fdisk -l
[23:29] <Kevin`> klunky999: actually there seems to be a bug there, or someone changed it, since it doesn't have the partition numbers..
[23:29] <Kevin`> klunky999: oh right, nevermind
[23:29] <tully-> Caly, many dont do it right either
[23:29] <demlasjr> ATI ohsix
[23:29] <demlasjr> no....working on it..
[23:29] <[snake]> Kevin`, I meant right to left :P
[23:29] <Vanillalite> Can anyone else get chrome/ium to stay as the default browser or is this a known bug?
[23:29] <superlou> Has anyone had trouble installing 11.04 AMD64 with nvidia.  Freezes on something about nvidia_current that seems to have been fixed a while back.  I can install "successfully" by telling ubuntu to skip before it gets to that part of configuration, but I'm not sure exactly what gets skipped and if I'll regret that later.
[23:29] <klunky999> Kevin`:  what u want me to do ?
[23:29] <demlasjr> is freezing in black or orange
[23:29] <makaveli0129> guntbert: so can i just rm -rf ~/.local/share/Trash$
[23:29] <demlasjr> need to restart from the button
[23:29] <aj00200> Are there any customizations which can be applied to the launcher such as size or having them "tilt" backwards at the top and bottom?
[23:30] <[snake]> Wow... I can't even tell my left and right without thinking about it... this is a sad day.
[23:30] <Caly> tully-: a popup askes yo "do you want to update to the latest version bla bla.. "   one press "OK" and that is wron?
[23:30] <Caly> *wrong
[23:30] <Cream2011> Ive been trying to install Ubuntu 10.10 off my usb drive, however when I go through the installation process it gets to the point where it asks me for my computer name, password, etc and finishes installing to where it says "Ready when you are" in the progress bar.  When I get to this point, it doesnt allow me to click the "Forward" button =/  I already deleted my crappy windows 7, and now the only way I can use my netbook is t
[23:30] <coolkid25> tully-: are you there?
[23:30] <guntbert> makaveli0129: I suggest you first look what is there: ls -l ~/.local/share/Trash  (no $ !)
[23:30] <aj00200> Cream2011: your message got cut off at "my netbook is t"
[23:31] <guntbert> makaveli0129: and then your command (without $) will be fine
[23:31] <Cream2011> through my flash drive
[23:31] <Kevin`> klunky999: fdisk -l
[23:31] <Cream2011> help
[23:31] <Cream2011> lol
[23:31] <demlasjr> so I guess no idea :)
[23:31] <alteregoa> hello mr ubuntu
[23:31] <makaveli0129> ~/.local/share/Trash$
[23:31] <guntbert> !enter | Cream2011
[23:31] <klunky999> Kevin`:  dont show nothin
[23:31] <makaveli0129> expunged  files  info
[23:31] <Kevin`> klunky999: as root, or with sudo
[23:31] <alteregoa> how long does it take to update from maverick to narwhale?
[23:31] <giampaolo> am I the only one who just HATES the new gui and switched back to classical them after a couple of hours?
[23:31] <makaveli0129> is the files listed in there
[23:31] <Rockj> AaeRohn: Im plugging in my scanner here to check some command line tools.      are you able to type   "sane-find-scanner" in your terminal? does it detect any scanners?
[23:31] <guntbert> !pastebin | makaveli0129
[23:31] <klunky999> Kevin`:  sorry im noob :)
[23:32] <shane4ubuntu1> anyone know of a good timer for ubuntu?  I used to use the tea timer on the panel, but well, that no longer exist with unity any timely timer tips??  :)
[23:32] <tully-> coolkid25, no
[23:32] <cannonball> My 10.10 -> 11.04 upgrade went very well.  However, for some reason, my rhythmbox only sees two of the 10 or so RSS feeds that I have.  Has anybody come up against something similar?  I suspect something in ~/.local/share/rhythmbox/rhythmdb.xml is corrupted, but it _looks_ fine to me.
[23:32] <alteregoa> how long is the update? 1hour?
[23:32] <klunky999> Kevin`:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/601029/
[23:32] <coolkid25> Can somebody help me fix Ubuntu? It won't boot right, when I select it in the boot menu, all I get is some kind of GRUB terminal.
[23:32] <aj00200> Cream2011: does the "try" feature work on the Live CD?
[23:32] <Guest11028> i updated with no problems
[23:33] <KNUBBIG> alteregoa: depends on many things, very bad to predict
[23:33] <Cream2011> Its a netbook, I dont have a cd.
[23:33] <AaeRohn> rockj: it detected
[23:33] <Cream2011> but yes
[23:33] <alteregoa> i didnt install that much
[23:33] <alteregoa> a relative clean ubuntu
[23:33] <aj00200> coolkid25: does it give some type of error code that you could look up?
[23:33] <Rockj> AaeRohn: interesting, could you pastebin the results for me in a pastebin?
[23:33] <guntbert> makaveli0129: ah there are folders, so ls -lR ~/.local/share/Trash
[23:33] <Cream2011> I am using the "try feature" on my usb drive.
[23:33] <demlasjr> repeat: each 20 minutes my laptop screen is turning black or orange, especially when the CPU is more solicited (around 70%-90%). The only way I can start or fix it is to restart the whole pc...it's frustrating :|  Video card: ATI Radeon with the drivers installed, Ubuntu: 11.04
[23:33] <KNUBBIG> alteregoa: also depends on the load of the server, your internet connection, your hdd speed and your CPU speed
[23:33] <coolkid25> nott anymore aj00200
[23:33] <daniel_> woul anyone know why my internet isnt working it worked before i updated and it isnt evan showing the led wifi light on evan if i toggle fn + F2 i looked at available drivers and it says the wirless one is being used idk how that it since i dont have wifi
[23:33] <truepurple> n3glv: You still there?
[23:33] <Kevin`> klunky999: looks like that entry should work, since it's what the mbr would normally do
[23:33] <coolkid25> now i just have a terminal
[23:33] <coolkid25> a grub terminal.
[23:33] <alteregoa> well my hdd speed is 7200 rpm
[23:34] <tully-> demlasjr, update to manufacturers driver
[23:34] <Rockj> AaeRohn: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[23:34] <tully-> drivers*
[23:34] <mdmkolbe> In Unity the panel at the top (i.e. the thing holding the ubuntu button, the app menu and the indicators), keeps disappearing and leaving behind a black area of the screen whenever I start tweaking settings (e.g. in CCSM).  It remains that way until I restart.  Is there a better way than restarting the machine to get it back (e.g. restart or give a kick to some "panel" process)?
[23:34] <karth> anyone know how to disable compiz font scaling?
[23:34] <alteregoa> and the cpu speed is aprox 300'000 miles per second
[23:34] <aj00200> coolkid25: if you restart to you get an error code again? This is key to debugging it
[23:34] <Caly> ActionParsnip: well, i wasnt looking to fix my wifi, i was looking to reverse the 11.04 upgrade that fucked up my boot, i don't get to GUI..
[23:34] <alteregoa> or km/s
[23:34] <AaeRohn> rockj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601030/
[23:34] <Kevin`> klunky999: I don't suppose you can run the two commands in the file in grub and say what it gives back
[23:34] <klunky999> Kevin`:  but dont, i just click windows 7 to load up and ig ends again in grub manager ...
[23:34] <dibs> I need help, can't upgrade   :E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[23:34] <KNUBBIG> alteregoa: cool so you got some kind of light processor? would be km, then
[23:35] <Kevin`> klunky999: that's why I want you to type it in, so it doesn't return
[23:35] <Kevin`> klunky999: although it would normally show something anyway, you might me missing it
[23:35] <NickUK`> Yo - I'm currently having an issue when booting into my Ubuntu 11.04 USB - The screen just goes all fuzzy like static but still static.
[23:35] <klunky999> ok so what i do ?
[23:35] <truepurple> Doesn't synaptic package manager know where the files of the programs it lists are? Is it possible to use synaptic package manager to find the files of the programs it lists?
[23:35] <klunky999> Kevin`:  ok so what i do ?
[23:36] <Rockj> AaeRohn: while I read some documentation, try this while waiting for the **** of it:     sudo adduser <username_on_your_pc> scanner             then logout and login again so it starts a new session.(reboot shouldnt be needed afaik aslong as you restart the session) See if xsane detects your scanner then.
[23:36] <work> olá boa noite
[23:36] <KNUBBIG> alteregoa: I can just tell you that the simple installation of the packages took 3 hours on my laptop and one hour one my desktop, you have to add download time
[23:36] <makaveli0129> gunbert: i just did rm -rf files from that directory
[23:36] <coolkid25> aj00200: nope
[23:36] <dibs> Is this where to get help?
[23:36] <bobopolos> hi
[23:36] <guntbert> !pt | work
[23:36] <demlasjr> I'm trying now -tully, ty !
[23:36] <guntbert> !tab | makaveli0129
[23:37] <klunky999> Kevin`:  just tell me what to try and i do it
[23:37] <Kevin`> klunky999: press c, then enter the lines it shows for windows starting at insmod. you don't need to enter the uuid one if you don't want, since it's annoying
[23:37] <guntbert> makaveli0129: and, are you satisfied with the result?
[23:37] <AaeRohn> rockj: there is no scanner group
[23:37] <truepurple> Doesn't synaptic package manager know where the files of the programs it lists are? Is it possible to use synaptic package manager to find the files of the programs it lists?
[23:37] <aj00200> coolkid25: hmm, I'm not sure where to go from here if you don't have an error code. You may have to reinstall
[23:37] <Rockj> AaeRohn: actually,   try   scanimage -L    in the terminal .
[23:37] <Kevin`> klunky999: normally i'd do that in kvm so you can get a screenshot, but that's not easy to explain
[23:37] <klunky999> Kevin`:  but you mean when i load grub ?
[23:37] <Acriax> I was playing around with compiz and somehow managed to disable the top bar and all gui elements except the icons on the screen when in Unity mode. Many keyborard-shortcuts don't work either, like bringing up the console. Help me, how can I fix this?
[23:37] <Rockj> AaeRohn: brb, plugging in my scanner, easier to help you figure out of the stuff then ;)
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: the package system knows, yes
[23:38] <KNUBBIG> Acriax: try booting into classic ubuntu and reset everything to default in the compizconfig-settings-manager
[23:38] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: So how do I use it to take me to said files?
[23:38] <NickUK`>  I'm currently having an issue when booting into my Ubuntu 11.04 USB - The screen just goes all fuzzy like static but still static.
[23:38] <Acriax> KNUBBIG good idea
[23:38] <bobopolos> I've been trying to bridge wlan0 and eth0, i follow steps found, ifconfig, route -n, and brctl show display reasonable results, but i cant ping anything on the eth0 side of the bridge. any advice? should i temporarily disable "network manager" or some other service that may be interfering?
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: do you want to know what files are in a package?
[23:38] <daniel_> woul anyone know why my internet isnt working it worked before i updated and it isnt evan showing the led wifi light on evan if i toggle fn + F2 i looked at available drivers and it says the wirless one is being used idk how that it since i dont have wifi
[23:38] <ForeverDrunk> How come there is no curl php5 package?
[23:38] <Kevin`> klunky999: yes when at the grub menu
[23:38] <AaeRohn> Rockj: it says: device `brother3:bus7;dev1' is a Brother MFC-6490CW USB scanner
[23:39] <jdsbluedevl> hi, just installed Natty, noticing that the Unity desktop is not functional at all
[23:39] <joepa> is it possible to remove the mail icon in the natty/unity system tray?
[23:39] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: No, I want to locate tomboy notes since its missing from my panel, and missing as a option to add to my panel
[23:39] <jdsbluedevl> it flashes my icons for a second, then goes blank
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: then run:  which tomboy
[23:40] <igitihi> hi there! I'm trying to restore my mbr (dual boot with xp). Can anybody help please?
[23:40] <coolkid25> aj00200: but i will lose all of my data! cant i just do a command in the terminal to see what is wrong?
[23:40] <Cream2011> Anyone know why, for some reason, the installation of ubuntu Netbook 10.10 Rmx wont complete for me? I've tried using it from a pen drive and from an external HD, both arent allowing me to complete installation at the same point.
[23:40] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: Do what now?
[23:40] <bizerklurker> Every time I login, I get the same default icons despite removing them and adding new ones ( by right-clicking on apps like skype and pressing "keep in launcher.") I hope I have explained my problem thoroughly - I am a ubuntun00b. Is this just a bug, is it fixable, or am I missing something here?
[23:40] <Rockj> AaeRohn: try   scanimage -x 100 -y 100 --format=tiff >image.tiff
[23:40] <aj00200> coolkid25: sorry, I am not familiar with the terminal. Maybe try using a live CD to copy your files to an external source or even Ubuntu One if you have enough space on it and then restore them after a resinstall
[23:40] <timholum> hello, does anyone know of a way to change how the search menu operates in 11.04? I would like it where if I type \\<IP_ADDRESS> it smb connects to <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:40] <Rockj> AaeRohn: just checking if it's able to scan anything.
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: run the command in terminal and it will tell you what binary is ran when you run tomboy
[23:41] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: What command?
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: the command is:  which tomboy
[23:41] <dibs> I can't get past setting new software channels when trying to upgrade to natty. Help??
[23:41] <ohsix> timholum: did you try smb://<IP_ADDRESS>/ ?
[23:41] <coolkid25> ActionParsnip: Can you help me with the GRUB terminal?
[23:41] <AaeRohn> Rockj: scanimage: open of device brother3:bus7;dev1 failed: Invalid argument
[23:41] <bizerklurker> how do I get my launcher icons to stop reverting to default upon every login in unity?
[23:42] <dark-matter> I updated to 11.04 and my nvidia driver on my dell d630 won't work.  I can get command line, but no GUI
[23:42] <dark-matter> anyone have ideas?
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> dibs: can you give the output of: sudo do-release-upgrade
[23:42] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: All it says is "/usr/bin/tomboy"
[23:42] <jdsbluedevl> anyone else have problems with the Unity desktop?
[23:42] <_jam> so, the intel wireless N bug that affected maverick and claims to be fixed is not fixed
[23:42] <bizerklurker> how do I get my launcher icons to stop reverting to default upon every login in unity?
[23:42] <Caly> dark-matter: welcome to my world...
[23:42] <timholum> ohsix: yup, it opens firefox to http://smb://<IP_ADDRESS>
[23:42] <Caly> same here
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> dark-matter: uninstall the nvidia driver, boot then reinstall the driver then reboot
[23:42] <dark-matter> Caly: NOO!!!!!
[23:42] <dark-matter> :)
[23:42] <dibs> ActionParsnip: will try thanks
[23:43] <bizerklurker> how do I get my launcher icons to stop reverting to default upon every login in unity?
[23:43] <stravant> I upgraded and in the new UI none of my windows have menus. Like, the menu underneath the window title in the window frame, what's that menu called? I'm looking for a solution but I don't know what it's called.
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: then thats the binary, is that not what you wanted?
[23:43] <dark-matter> ActionParsnip: ok
[23:43] <ohsix> timholum: nice; haha, well i don't have much to add sorry, that format uri would work in nautilus
[23:43] <dark-matter> Caly: did that work?
[23:43] <Caly> what?
[23:43] <relik> hello
[23:43] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: The binary?
[23:43] <lollab> hello, I have HP elitebook 8440p and I would like to enable fingerpint scanner for sudo privlige, any help?
[23:43] <dark-matter> Caly: what ActionParsnip suggested
[23:43] <Caly> i'm here on my other computer running Trisquel to get help with that same problem
[23:43] <bizerklurker> how do I get my launcher icons to stop reverting to default upon every login in unity?
[23:43] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: What do you mean by binary?
[23:43] <Caly> dark-matter: not so far
[23:43] <daniel_> hello i cannot get my wifi to work for the life of me i push fn +f2 wont turn it on i hceck avaiable drivers shows that my wifi card is in use (evan htough i have no wifi) and i went to and made sure i had all the broadcom packages installed but still no luck in getting it to work evan though it worked before i updated
[23:43] <coolkid25> Can somebody help me fix Ubuntu? It won't boot right, when I select it in the boot menu, all I get is some kind of GRUB terminal.
[23:43] <relik> when i try to do "ls *.mpg" i get this error message: ls: invalid option -- ' '
[23:43] <timholum> ohsix: ya, I am assuming the program to search is written in python, I just have to find where to write a patch
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: yes the binary is the actual file executed when you run the command
[23:44] <relik> any idea what causes this?
[23:44] <work> hi, how disable touch screen in ubuntu 11.04?
[23:44] <coolkid25> ActionParsnip: Can you please help me? I heard you are the best.
[23:44] <Rockj> AaeRohn: checking stuff here, trying to figure out how to communicate with my scanner on the commmand line.
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: hardly
[23:44] <bizerklurker> how do I get my launcher icons to stop reverting to default upon every login in unity?
[23:45] <coolkid25> The best, and humble.
[23:45] <coolkid25> Amazing.
[23:45] <relik> why does ls *.avi works but ls *.mpg does not on Ubuntu?
[23:45] <tully-> bizerklurker, change the default settings
[23:45] <KNUBBIG> Acriax: if you're still having troubles, try http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-reset-unity-launcher-icons-or.html
[23:45] <work> hi, how disable touch screen in ubuntu 11.04?
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> relik: check case
[23:45] <xangua> relik: installed codecs¿
[23:45] <xangua> work: don't touch the screen¿
[23:45] <kwtm> relik: What does "ls *.mpg" do on your system, and what do you expect it to do?
[23:45] <aj00200> relik: you might want to check that your files are not called *.MPG (note the case) or *.mpeg
[23:45] <relik> kwtm: show me files with mpg
[23:46] <relik> aj00200: i get an error message when i do ls *.mpg
[23:46] <kwtm> relik: Ahh, I see your line from above.  Almost missed it.
[23:46] <relik> thats the problem
[23:46] <Acriax> KNUBBIG okay, I will try that next. Resetting the compiz settings didn't help
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: if you boot to livecd, chroot to the installed OS and manipulate grub
[23:46] <lollab> I forgot to say, fprint does't see any device,
[23:46] <Cream2011> I cant complete installation from my usb drive :(
[23:46] <ojii> hi everyone
[23:46] <Rockj> AaeRohn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601034/
[23:46] <kwtm> relik: Okay, you should not type  "ls - "
[23:46] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: Does ubuntu not have a built in feature for finding a file on either ones hard drive, or the page they are lookng at?
[23:46] <coolkid25> ActionParsnip: Where do I get a live CD?
[23:46] <relik> kwtm: i know
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> relik: try:   ls | grep -i ".mpg"   ,ay work
[23:46] <xangua> coolkid25: ubuntu.com
[23:46] <coz_> !ubuntu
[23:46] <relik> just ls *.mpg causes problems
[23:46] <ojii> for some reason the interface language in my login screen is in japanese, but after I login everything is in English (as it should be), how can I change/fix the language in my login screen?
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: its the CD you installed with
[23:47] <work> how disable touchscreen in ubuntu 11.04, is not wacom now?
[23:47] <bizerklurker> how do I get my launcher icons to stop reverting to default upon every login in unity?
[23:47] <kwtm> relik: However, if one of your files is named "- something.mpg", then   ls *.mpg   will turn into   ls -   something.mpg  which will generate that error.
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: there are search apps. I'm unclear as to what you are after
[23:47] <coz_> work,   wacom drivers are installed
[23:47] <coolkid25> ActionParsnip: I installed 10.10 via ubuntu update manger
[23:47] <coolkid25> :x
[23:47] <coz_> work,  I dont have touch screen to see if it is wacom driving that
[23:47] <BrixSat> hello
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> work: if you unload the module driving it, it will cease to work
[23:48] <kwtm> relik: Type this instead:    find -name '*.mpg'     (don't forget those single quotes) and see if you have any funny filenames.
[23:48] <bizerklurker> how do I get my launcher icons to stop reverting to default upon every login in unity?
[23:48] <BrixSat> how do i install a prism isl3886 pci card on ubuntu?
[23:48] <arianit> anyone having their GDM randomly restarting on Natty with Unity
[23:48] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: Something like windows search command, and/or like a browsers or text files find a particular word on this page command.
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: then download the ISO, MD5 test it then make a bootable USB or burn it to CD
[23:48] <igitihi> Is anybody able to help me restore my grub menu? I can't boot into Ubuntu anymore... Please, it's urgent!
[23:48] <bizerklurker> the question to answer ratio 10 : 1
[23:48] <coz_> bizerklurker,  are you right clicking an application icon when it appears in the launcher and  choosing to keep it in launcher?
[23:48] <coolkid25> after i burn it what do i do ActionParsnip ?
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: there are search apps like beagle
[23:48] <bizerklurker> coz, yes
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: boot to it
[23:49] <relik> hmmmm
[23:49] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: Built into ubuntu?
[23:49] <demlasjr> related with the black screen...same problem even with the last driver :|
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> !info beagle | truepurple
[23:49] <relik> maybe its a feature but i consider that a bug
[23:49] <coz_> bizerklurker,   mm  that's odd, it should hold on to them... I am not on natty right now so I cant test
[23:49] <coolkid25> how would i do that ActionParsnip
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[23:49] <coolkid25> ?
[23:49] <KNUBBIG> man so many ppas with no natty versions, kinda annoying on apt-get update :)
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: boot to the cd you burn
[23:49] <kwtm> relik: For example, if someone decided to name a file "- This is such a great movie -".mpg  then you will have problems if you do not know enough about bash.
[23:49] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: Doesn't ubuntu come with any of its own search functions?
[23:49] <coolkid25> but how? :x
[23:49] <bizerklurker> coz_, okay. thank you.
[23:49] <lightstep> hello
[23:49] <relik> kwtm: how can you wor around it?
[23:50] <coolkid25> ActionParsnip: In the settings of the computer?
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: I believe nautilus has one.I always use the find command in CLI
[23:50] <lightstep> i installed ubuntu 11.04, and i want to use a chat program other than empathy
[23:50] <daniel_> hello i cannot get my wifi to work for the life of me i push fn +f2 wont turn it on i hceck avaiable drivers shows that my wifi card is in use (evan htough i have no wifi) and i went to and made sure i had all the broadcom packages installed but still no luck in getting it to work evan though it worked before i updated
[23:50] <coz_> KNUBBIG,   I use  y-ppa-manager  it is helpful it only looks for ppas for the running ubuntu version
[23:50] <kwtm> relik: Well, you start with that find command I told you about.  What result did you get?
[23:50] <lightstep> is there a way to change the chat program in unity?
[23:50] <relik> kwtm: it works
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: how do you mean?
[23:50] <AaeRohn> Rockj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601035/
[23:50] <relik> but it does not work for vlc
[23:50] <Dominater> !raid5
[23:50] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: Where is it then?
[23:50] <relik> vlc .mpg
[23:50] <KNUBBIG> coz_: oh I have that installed too, but didn't know it had that function. Thanks!
[23:50] <lightstep> the one run when clicking "chat" on the letter-image menu?
[23:50] <work> what name drive touchscreen in 11.04?
[23:50] <daniel_> hello i cannot get my wifi to work for the life of me i push fn +f2 wont turn it on i hceck avaiable drivers shows that my wifi card is in use (evan htough i have no wifi) and i went to and made sure i had all the broadcom packages installed but still no luck in getting it to work evan though it worked before i updated
[23:50] <kwtm> relik: <sigh> I know it works.  What does it say?  Are there any filenames that start with "-" or some other unexpected character?
[23:50] <Dominater> !raid
[23:50] <relik> kwtm: yes
[23:50] <kill3> Hmmm. What should I do when kernel panic. Im trying to install 11.04?
[23:51] <mdmkolbe> In Unity the panel at the top (i.e. the thing holding the ubuntu button, the app menu and the indicators), keeps disappearing and leaving behind a black area of the screen whenever I start tweaking settings (e.g. in CCSM).  It remains that way until I restart.  Is there a better way than restarting the machine to get it back (e.g. restart or give a kick to some "panel" process)?
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: in nautilus, little magnifying glass icon...
[23:51] <Mahjongg> should I wait some more to upgrade to natty? production workstation here...
[23:51] <relik> there are some movies with weird characters in them
[23:51] <coz_> mdmkolbe,   ok  did you try restarting x?
[23:51] <work> what name drive touchscreen in 11.04?
[23:51] <daniel_> hello i cannot get my wifi to work for the life of me i push fn +f2 wont turn it on i hceck avaiable drivers shows that my wifi card is in use (evan htough i have no wifi) and i went to and made sure i had all the broadcom packages installed but still no luck in getting it to work evan though it worked before i updated
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> Mahjongg: I'd wait a while then, wait for the early bugs to be knockedout
[23:51] <Mahjongg> ActionParsnip, like around a month's time?
[23:51] <Rockj> AaeRohn: scanimage -L  gives? mind pasting that line too? does it give you "brother3:bus7;dev1" as device?
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> work: if you run:  lsmod     what is output, use a pastebin to host the text
[23:52] <karth> Mahjongg: yeah, I'd give it a few weeks at the least
[23:52] <kwtm> relik: Okay, please try   ls ./*.mpg    which is actually the correct way to list it.
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> Mahjongg: sounds reasonable
[23:52] <mdmkolbe> coz_: no, but my guess is that log out and back in will also fix it.  I'd just like to avoid having to stop and restart all my apps.
[23:52] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: Ok thanks, on to my next subject, getting a good ATI driver for my 6850, can you help?
[23:52] <Rockj> AaeRohn: try the same command again but put the brother3:bus7;dev1 in quotes like  "brother3:bus7;dev1" after -d argument.
[23:52] <DimaV> Hello. I just did an upgrad from 10.10 server to 11.04, but i screwed up grub/booting in the process. i have LVM on the system. can i get help restoring the boot? i have a live cd on hand.
[23:52] <bizerklurker> how do I get my launcher icons to stop reverting to default upon every login in unity?
[23:52] <Caly> dark-matter: yo, i got a half-solution at least...
[23:52] <kwtm> relik: Another way is   ls -- *mpg   for those who don't like the  ./*mpg
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: check the hardware app. I don't use ati chips
[23:52] <relik> ok
[23:52] <dark-matter> Caly: what did you do?
[23:53] <relik> i'll try
[23:53] <Caly> dark-matter: hold shift at boot, choos earlier linux version
[23:53] <coz_> mdmkolbe,   well if you restart x properly  with     ctrl+alt+F1,,, log in ,, then   sudo restart gdm    ,,, that would be the best way because it shuts down gnome  and apps properly
[23:53] <dark-matter> good suggestion
[23:53] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: I don't know what you mean by "check the hardware app"
[23:53] <coolkid25> ActionParsnip: What would I do to boot to the CD? Just turn on my pc to it? Also, would I have to reinstall and lose all my data?
[23:53] <BrixSat> ow do i install a prism isl3886 pci card on ubuntu?
[23:53] <kwtm> relik: By the way, this is expected behaviour in bash.  While the novice may not expect it, it hardly counts as a bug.  Quite a number of things in bash would break if this were not the behaviour.
[23:53] <AaeRohn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/601037/
[23:53] <AaeRohn> rockj:http://paste.ubuntu.com/601037/
[23:53] <work> how uninstall drive touchscreen in 11.04?
[23:53] <Caly> dark-matter: now it boots to GUI at least...
[23:53] <howard> Question about upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04: I have a 10.10 system, ran update manager and pressed the Upgrade button.  It gives me the Release Notes, and when I hit Upgrade again, it waits for a couple of seconds and then droppped me back to Update Manager.  My other laptop upgraded just fine.
[23:53] <Mahjongg> ActionParsnip, actually I recently upgraded to maverick from LTS, and I am punching the walls that I made that decision. LTS was perfect... Now I am having sleep probelms... Would natty be better with respect to sleep wake up stuff?
[23:53] <coz_> work,   I dont know,, exactly,,, it should be wacom but I am not sure
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: in system -> administration. Instead of asking almost immediately, try a little research so you find out maybe for yourself.You will be moreautonomous
[23:54] <coz_> if it is not wacom we are in trouble :)
[23:54] <lollab> anybody get this finger print scanner works on ubuntu ? HP 8440p Elitebook
[23:54] <karth> howard: had the same thing on a couple of boxes, retried 5-10 times, finally worked. the servers are pretty heavily loaded. :)
[23:54] <DimaV> anyone?
[23:54] <kwtm> relik: If it really bothers you, you can rename the files.  So you could say    mv "- this movie has a weird name -.mpg"  "Name_without_weird_characters.mpg"
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> Mahjongg: you fixed what wasn't broken. On production systems I would always use the LTS
[23:54] <daniel_> hello i cannot get my wifi to work for the life of me i push fn +f2 wont turn it on i hceck avaiable drivers shows that my wifi card is in use (evan htough i have no wifi) and i went to and made sure i had all the broadcom packages installed but still no luck in getting it to work evan though it worked before i updated
[23:54] <coolkid25> ActionParsnip: The terminal says that no kernel is loaded, is there a command to fix thaf?
[23:54] <howard> karth: was there any diagnostic messages I can see?
[23:54] <Rockj> AaeRohn: you had this scanner working earlier did you? What version of ubuntu did you run then?
[23:54] <coz_> DimaV,   I didnt see your post to respond  sorry
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: you need the livecd which is what I was telling you before, remember
[23:54] <work> how uninstall drive touchscreen in 11.04?
[23:55] <Mahjongg> ActionParsnip, I see. I'll probably go and install LTS again
[23:55] <dark-matter> wahoo failsafe graphics mode!!!
[23:55] <DimaV> coz_, I just did an upgrad from 10.10 server to 11.04, but i screwed up grub/booting in the process. i have LVM on the system. can i get help restoring the boot? i have a live cd on hand.
[23:55] <relik> ok
[23:55] <relik> thank
[23:55] <coz_> DimaV,  ah ok  hold on
[23:55] <relik> that solved the problem
[23:55] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: I have already done a bunch of research on this subject and what about system-> administration?
[23:55] <kwtm> relik: Now you know that ls * is wrong. :)
[23:55] <demlasjr> hey guys, related with the black screen: http://www.mailrepository.com/ubuntu-bugs.lists.ubuntu.com/msg/3662666/
[23:55] <aguitel> anyone try gnome3 in natty ?
[23:55] <work> how uninstall drive touchscreen in 11.04?
[23:56] <demlasjr> is this solved or how much take to fix it....
[23:56] <bizerklurker> Can someone please answer my question?: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/154875
[23:56] <coolkid25> alright thanks ActionParsnip :D
[23:56] <demlasjr> or I need to go back to 10.10
[23:56] <coz_> DimaV, ooo the page I wanted to link you to is down ,, hold on
[23:56] <bencc> what package do I need to run a jar file on natty? I thought that libreoffice already require jre
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: sure but now you have new information
[23:56] <DimaV> coz_: holding on
[23:56] <AaeRohn> rockj: I didnt have Ubuntu before, my Win XP crashed and I had no disc, and no money... so I got Ubuntu and upgraded as much as I could...
[23:56] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: What new info?
[23:56] <coz_> DimaV,  go to the #grub channel    they may have another link for reinstalling grub
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> bencc: http://www.multimediaboom.com/how-to-install-java-in-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal-ppa/
[23:56] <KNUBBIG> bencc: either openjdk-jre or sun-java6-jre
[23:56] <KNUBBIG> !java > bencc
[23:56]  * DimaV goes
[23:57] <work> how uninstall drive touchscreen in 11.04?
[23:57] <Caly> dark-matter: did you get the seme popup as me then? GConf error: Failed to contact configuratio server...
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: about the hardware driver app:  23:53:56) ActionParsnip: truepurple: in system -> administration
[23:57] <christhecoolboy> I need Ubuntu help, since I have switched to Ubuntu 11.04, My Microphone no longer works...
[23:57] <AaeRohn> rockj: WinXP crashed and burned*
[23:57] <xangua> !java | bencc
[23:57] <bencc> thanks
[23:57] <karth> howard: not really, sometimes it flashed up a note about not being able to contact the server, other times, nothing.
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> work: if you can give the output of the command I gave, I can advise
[23:57] <tomatobros> hey guys i just install 11.04 and i want to know is  "fglrx" in repo have tear free or i have to install from amd.com ?
[23:58] <demlasjr> any solution for this bug ? http://www.mailrepository.com/ubuntu-bugs.lists.ubuntu.com/msg/3662666/   BLACK SCREEN
[23:58] <Rockj> AaeRohn:  I see. Anyway, Ubuntu is a good choice anyway so lets see if we can figure this out ;-)
[23:58] <coz_> work,   open a termina.  type   gpoint-device-settings
[23:58] <coz_> work,   I believe there is a setting for  "touchfreeze" in there
[23:58] <dark-matter> Caly: Not yet
[23:58] <coz_> brb   nature call :)
[23:58] <dark-matter> Caly: it is still loading
[23:58] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: What about system adminstration?
[23:58] <Caly> ok
[23:58] <AaeRohn> Rockj: I'll be back, I have to run something around the block
[23:58] <zero_> If I wana run perl script as service . how to do it ? I mean I have a vps which runs ubuntu server and I want to run a perl script without stoping even tho I exit from the terminal session
[23:59] <KNUBBIG> tomatobros: you should enable the proprietary drivers in the hardware admin section and then it should download it without you requiring to get it from amd.com but
[23:59] <Rockj> AaeRohn: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/brother-mfc-240c-intermittent-scanning-issue-632801/   , looks like someone else have had this invalid argument thing popping up on your type of scanners. Try turn your scanner off and on again and see if it gives a better result.
[23:59] <KNUBBIG> !ati > tomatobros
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: in that menu there is an application to install 3rd party drivers
[23:59] <dark-matter> It is frozen loading at: Checking Battery State
[23:59] <Cream2011> Anyone know why I cant complete installation for 10.10 on my Netbook?
[23:59] <ojii> for some reason the interface language in my login screen is in japanese, but after I login everything is in English (as it should be), how can I change/fix the language in my login screen?
[23:59] <tripelb> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-vHrS4s14Q  Feels good to admit it.
[23:59] <christhecoolboy> Since I have updated to 11.04, my Microphone no longer works... How could I fix this?!
[23:59] <bizerklurker> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/154875
[23:59] <howard> karth: thanks for the info.  I'm glad that I am not the only one.
[23:59] <dark-matter> but i can do alt+f1 to get to a prompt
[23:59] <work> What command ActionParsnip?
[23:59] <bizerklurker> can someone please answer my question https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/154875
[23:59] <tomatobros> KNUBBIG,  thx
[23:59] <Caly> dark-matter: mkay, you said failsafe? i choose to "boot woth earlier linux version"