[00:01] <pteague> is there a way i can find out what's using the sound server? or at least a way i can restart it or something?
[00:03] <KingOfDos> why the ** is kubuntu changing my master volume after an apt-get update / apt-get upgrade?
[00:04] <KingOfDos> i was playing some music. and have 240watt boxes. so the whole house is now awake i'll guess.
[00:05] <aziz> lol
[00:05] <KingOfDos> normaly my mastervolume is at 5% or something
[00:05] <Alex135> hehe so not smart :P
[00:05] <snarkster> lol i have no idea but thats funny
[00:05] <KingOfDos> and it's 01:06 at night, great timing :D
[00:05] <Alex135> i blew my speakers out once trying something like that
[00:05] <aziz> pteague: maybe $ alsa reload
[00:05] <Alex135> and my speakers can get LOUD!
[00:06] <Alex135> normal is at 45% for me
[00:07] <SunStorm> does kubuntu have cdr labels?
[00:07] <Alex135> and my speakers are also set n 50%
[00:07] <pteague> woot! that did it... thanks :)  didn't want to have to reboot
[00:07] <Alex135> so i can boost my speakers up 400% of normal
[00:07] <aziz> hey, is it possible to have the taskbar shown when an application flashes it's task button? for instance, when you receive a message in a kopete chat window, I want the hidden taskbar to come up...
[00:09] <KingOfDos> but still. why would someone develop software with the "default volume" at 100%? he was out of coffee or something?
[00:10] <SunStorm> are there cdrw labels available for download?
[00:11] <aziz> anyone got an idea regarding taskbar+flashing? i was so used to this feature from my Windows times, would love to have it in KDE.
[00:12] <Alex135> KingOfDos: not sure.... but what would you do, set it to zero so people didn't know it worked?
[00:12] <Alex135> KingOfDos: atliest you know it works :P
[00:12] <KingOfDos> true :D
[00:13] <SunStorm> found it
[00:13] <KingOfDos> i would set it to about 25 or 30% i'll guess. as default
[00:13] <aaronwi> is there a 64bit kubuntu for download somewhere?
[00:13] <Alex135> KingOfDos: it depends on the speakers, i have my speakers set at 50% with kubuntu volume set at 45% and its normal sould level
[00:13] <Alex135> sound*
[00:14] <KingOfDos> but indeed. normal people have computer boxes of 2 watt RMS.
[00:14] <KingOfDos> normal people dont have 240watt speakers and an ampfieler without a volume button i'll guess ;)
[00:15] <axel_> aaronwi: E.g.: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hardy/kubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[00:15] <aaronwi> thankyou
[00:16] <ahmos> hi. does anyone know a good dictionary programme for translating words
[00:16] <aaronwi> when a new revision comes out, do I need to download a new installation cd or am i able to just run some sort of update?
[00:16] <profoX-Akademy> some sort of update
[00:16] <aaronwi> k
[00:17] <axel_> aaronwi: Wich revision do you mena?
[00:17] <aaronwi> any
[00:17] <aaronwi> like in the future
[00:18] <axel_> aaronwi: 8.04 --> 8.04.1 is a regular update, nothing special.
[00:18] <ahmos> hi. does anyone know a good dictionary programme for translating words
[00:18] <ahmos> plz
[00:18] <aaronwi>  well I mean larger updates like hardy gusty etc
[00:19] <axel_> aaronwi: 8.04 --> 8.10 is a so called "distribution update". That is a little bit more complcated / risky (make a backup of your /home-folders!)
[00:19] <aaronwi> ok, but thats all available with the update program?
[00:20] <axel_> aaronwi: 8.04 --> 8.10 might be a little bit more complcated as the ather upGRADEs before as of the integration of KDE4.
[00:20] <aaronwi> ive dabbled with ubuntu a bit, and mandriva, on and off, but never completely switched over from windows, but ive had it with the unstability, so I'm switching for good today lol
[00:21] <axel_> aaronwi: I don't know wether KDE4 will be the standard-desktop on 8.10.
[00:21] <aaronwi> kde4 is pretty resource intensive tho isnt it?
[00:22] <axel_> aaronwi: The adept manager (K-Menue > System > Adept Manager) should inform you about distribution upgrades and do the upgrade.
[00:22] <aaronwi> ok
[00:22] <axel_> aaronwi: It's actually the opposite. It should need less ressouctes. (As far as I'm informed.)
[00:23] <aaronwi> is there an easy way to migrate all my winxp stuff over, or should I just like set up wine for the windows partition?
[00:23] <aaronwi> o ok
[00:23] <aldo> is it possible to uninstall gnome??
[00:23] <aaronwi> i was kinda associating beryl with kde4
[00:24] <axel_> aaronwi: Little hint: upgrade to the next release about one or two week after it is published. In the first days there might be some trouble.
[00:24] <aaronwi> k
[00:24] <axel_> aaronwi: you don't need Wine to read data from a NTFS-partition.
[00:25] <aaronwi> k, but I still have some programs Id like to use
[00:25] <axel_> aaronwi: or do you mean things like ICQ-settings, Outlook-accounts, ...
[00:25] <aaronwi> ya
[00:25] <aaronwi> altho half the stuff I use is opensouce anyways
[00:26] <aaronwi> im just kinda afraid if i move everything over to a linux partion and I screw it up id lose it all
[00:26] <axel_> aaronwi: Do you speak German? There is a great site about Ubuntu and stuff.
[00:26] <aaronwi> ive screwed up linux distros quite a bit in the past hence the reason I never did a full switch over
[00:26] <aaronwi> no i dont know german
[00:27] <Alex135> arronwi: if you want someone to guide you through the process i would be happy to help you
[00:27] <axel_> aaronwi: Backup. Then you don't have to fear the migration.
[00:27] <aaronwi> k
[00:27] <aaronwi> well,..I have 1.5 TB of stuff :S
[00:27] <Alex135> arronwi: holy crap why do you have so much!
[00:27] <axel_> aaronwi: External HDD.
[00:27] <aaronwi> I collect
[00:27] <aaronwi> lol
[00:28] <Alex135> aaronwi: mythTV?
[00:28] <aaronwi> nope
[00:28] <aaronwi> lots and lots of torrents
[00:28] <Alex135> aaronwi: ROFLHAHAHAHAHAHA
[00:28] <Alex135> aaronwi: i find it funny cuz i have about 100GB that i have filled up just this summer of torrents
[00:28] <aaronwi> its like an addiction lol
[00:29] <Alex135> aaronwi: well now i know who to contact if i need storage space :P
[00:29] <aaronwi> i have a 24/7 torrenting box too
[00:29] <axel_> aaronwi: backup is always a good idea. Just imagine a Lightning hitting your house.
[00:29] <aaronwi> lol
[00:29] <Alex135> aaronwi: or if i need something :P
[00:29] <aaronwi> yup had that happen...one of these days i need a UPS
[00:30] <axel_> aaronwi: It depends on the lightning wether a USP helps. ;)
[00:30] <Alex135> UPS*
[00:30] <aaronwi> lol...well i have surge protectors too...but our power usually goes out during any storm
[00:30] <axel_> Alex135: Ahem, yes.
[00:31] <Alex135> the most i have is a 315GB hdd, so 1.5TB is a lot
[00:32] <aaronwi> lol
[00:32] <axel_> aaronwi: Well that would be far too risky for me. I can only give you the advise to make a backup of your data - at least of your most precious ones.
[00:32] <aaronwi> i almost compusivly bought another TB
[00:32] <aaronwi> think I should go with raid?
[00:32] <Alex135> how much are they anyway?
[00:32] <aaronwi> 80 bucks for a 500GB right now
[00:32] <Alex135> no a 1TB
[00:32] <aaronwi> o
[00:32] <aaronwi> um 140 or so
[00:33] <Alex135> ah
[00:33] <Alex135> cuz i just finished paying 340 for my new 24" screen
[00:33] <aaronwi> I usually get 500 or 400 gb drivs tho...cheaper if one dies
[00:33] <axel_> aaronwi: As far as I know there are external HDD-cases more than one HDD. 4-5 as I know - working in a RAID:
[00:33] <Alex135> ill probably go with a 500GB hdd then, i only need enough to back up my torrents and ISO's
[00:34] <axel_> aaronwi Alex135: Is it USD you are talking about?
[00:34] <aaronwi> i think newegg has a western digital 16mb cache drive for around 80..good deal for good brand
[00:34] <aaronwi> yes USD
[00:34] <Alex135> axel_: yes
[00:35] <TeslaTony> Is there a way to share my net connection from my main computer to another computer?
[00:35] <Alex135> TeslaTony: if you got twin ethernet ports or a Hub
[00:36] <TeslaTony> I have a single ethernet port, but I´m running off WiFi
[00:36] <aaronwi> so do you guys think its a good idea to use kubuntu as my main os for a main linux computer, or should i go with ubuntu...i have more experiance with kde tho
[00:36] <Alex135> aaronwi: Kubuntu is the same as Ubuntu but with KDE instead of Gnome
[00:36] <TeslaTony> aaronwi: Why choose? Use both
[00:36] <axel_> aaronwi: it depends.
[00:37] <jeisma> I just bought a basic webcam ic50c and installed cheese, but kubuntu doesn't see that the webcam is plugged in. How do I fix this?
[00:37] <Alex135> aaronwi: i use ubuntu with KDE installed so its (K) Ubuntu :P
[00:37] <axel_> TeslaTony: and the mess with the applications-/ K-Menue?
[00:37] <aaronwi> lol
[00:37] <aaronwi> how do you switch back and forth then?
[00:37] <TeslaTony> axel_: The mess isn too bad
[00:37] <Alex135> aaronwi: login screen, but you dont need too
[00:37] <aaronwi> ok
[00:38] <aaronwi> is kubuntu missing gnome then?
[00:38] <Gutter_Rat> Ok - here's the deal...   My question is do I need to do anything special driver-wise or whatnot before removing the old card to keep kubuntu/kde from crapping itself with the new card, or is it a bit more robust than that and able to take the change in stride?
[00:38] <axel_> TeslaTony: for me bad enough.
[00:38] <Alex135> aaronwi: with both installed you can run both gnome and KDE apps
[00:38] <Alex135> aaronwi: yes
[00:38] <Alex135> aaronwi: i would install Ubuntu first then KDE (just cuz thats the way i have alwase done things
[00:38] <Alex135> aaronwi: never done the reverse
[00:38] <TeslaTony> You can use KDE apps in gnome without KDE
[00:39] <aaronwi> Alex135: ok, is it possible to then run a gnome app in kde, or would i have to switch first then?
[00:39] <Alex135> thats true but you still need the KDE libraries
[00:39] <Alex135> aaronwi: you can run a gnome app in KDE
[00:39] <aaronwi> o ok cool
[00:39] <aaronwi> never knew that
[00:39] <Alex135> aaronwi: its because the gnome libraries are installed with gnome
[00:39] <aaronwi> so Im guessin all thats needed is the gnome libraries
[00:39] <aaronwi> k
[00:40] <Alex135> aaronwi: yes
[00:40] <axel_> aaronwi: after installing Kubuntu is a "pure" KDE-Linux without Gnome. But you can install it if/ when you like.
[00:40] <Alex135> anyway brb, i gotta get my haircut...
[00:40] <axel_> aaronwi: When you install a gnome-app all reqired libraries etc. is automatically installed.
[00:40] <nusakan> Hi. I need setting up a webcam and getting my computer to recognize my flash drives, which it did until recently.
[00:41] <aaronwi> ok
[00:41] <aaronwi> do I have to get 64 bit drivers for everything then too, with the 64 bit version, or would 32 bit drivers wrok too?
[00:42] <axel_> aaronwi: what about trying (K)Ubuntu with Wubi?
[00:42] <axel_> aaron#
[00:42] <nessuno> hi
[00:42] <aaronwi> whats wubi?
[00:42] <axel_> aaronwi: That's the problem with 64bit. You need special dirvers - as far as I know.
[00:43] <axel_> aaronwi: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors and scroll down to the bottom.
[00:43] <aaronwi> k, its just that I have so much storage and 4gbs ram..I thought It would be required to use x64
[00:44] <axel_> aaronwi: I wouldn't say that's a requirement. It's an option.
[00:44] <TeslaTony> 32bit can see 4 gigs
[00:44] <TeslaTony> Supposedly. Sometimes it works out that you can only see 3.5
[00:45] <axel_> TeslaTony: But not one bit more.
[00:45] <aaronwi> well I know its limited on windows
[00:45] <pteague> bigmem on 32bit works *sometimes*
[00:45] <aaronwi> well if i go with x64 am I going to have a harder time finding drivers for things?
[00:46] <axel_> aaronwi: I suppose so. It has been a while I last tried a 64bit-Ubuntu.
[00:46] <Dr_willis> I would stick with 32bit unless you know you NEED 64bit stuff
[00:47] <Dr_willis> if you have excatly 4 gb of ram.. you may or may not 'lose' a little bit of ram.
[00:47] <axel_> Dr_willis: ACK.
[00:47] <nusakan> Can someone help? I need setting up a webcam and getting my computer to recognize my flash drives, which it did until recently.
[00:47] <Dr_willis> so whats more imporntant - useing all the ram.. or flash and other 'media' stuff. :)
[00:47] <axel_> nusakan: Sorry, no Idea.
[00:47] <pteague> i've not had any problems with 64bit other than needing to get 64bit versions of programs i'm using natively... wine works just fine
[00:48] <aaronwi> ok...but it is all backwards compatible with 32bit progs then right?
[00:48] <Dr_willis> all it takes is one issue... and you run in to the 64 vs 32bit brick wall.. :)
[00:48] <Dr_willis> it is getting better all the time.. but i hear there are still issues.
[00:49] <pteague> that's true... i've got a 32bit & 64bit partitions using the same home directory... so if i run into a serious issue i can still flee back ;)
[00:49] <aaronwi> ok
[00:49] <aaronwi> how bit of partion should i dedicate for kubuntu then?
[00:50] <axel_> aaronwi: ???
[00:50] <aaronwi> not counting the home dir
[00:50] <axel_> aaronwi: Use at least 3 partitions.
[00:50] <ryry> hmm
[00:50] <aaronwi> ok...so what do I need then
[00:50] <TeslaTony> The only problem I had with 64bit when I used it was there is no 64bit flash. I use 32 bit now because there is nothing with Linux that I am capable of using that will benefit from the performance increas
[00:50] <axel_> aaronwi: one for "spwap", one for /home and one for the rest.
[00:50] <aaronwi> a / dir...with ext3?
[00:51] <aaronwi> not dir partion*
[00:51] <aaronwi> do I need a swap partion? since i have 4 gigs ram?
[00:51] <axel_> aaronwi: I'd say: yes.
[00:52] <aaronwi> k
[00:52] <aaronwi> how big should that be
[00:52] <axel_> aaron: as a rule of thumb: double the ram.
[00:52]  * Gutter_Rat always makes his swap partition equal to 1.5x physical ram - is this optimal or overkill?
[00:53] <aaronwi> k
[00:53] <pteague> i've got an old 80gb & a newer 500gb drive... the 80gb is split about 20gb winders, 29gb/29gb linux partitions, & 1.5gb swap i think... the 500 has a 1.5gb swap & the rest is /home... iirc
[00:53] <aaronwi> do I need a home partition, or can I just put that in /
[00:53] <axel_> aaronwi: I'd recommend you using a home partition.
[00:53] <pteague> definitely don't need that much, but i was being lazy
[00:53] <aaronwi> lol k
[00:54] <aaronwi> now....will wine work fine with my FPS games? and what about steam
[00:54] <axel_> aaronwi: advantage: you can just "exchange" the root-partition and use your data again.
[00:55] <axel_> aaronwi: No Idea.
[00:55] <aaronwi> axel_: o ok. so like a reinstall wont wipe everything, just overwrite?
[00:55] <Dr_willis> Ive heard wine can work with steam  - but a lot depends on the game
[00:55] <Dr_willis> Its often a good idea to keep a /home partition seperate
[00:55] <aaronwi> k
[00:55] <pteague> depends on the FPS, but i've not had issues with the games i play... usually wow, eve-online, ut2k4
[00:56] <aaronwi> and should I use the ext3 filesystem then?
[00:56] <pteague> i've played guildwars before, but not lately & not since i switched to 64bit
[00:56] <Dr_willis> you got any reason to not use ext3?
[00:56] <aaronwi> i dont know jack about what i should and shouldnt use
[00:56] <Dr_willis> Then use the defaults. :)
[00:56] <aaronwi> k
[00:56] <axel_> aaronwi: In case of a reinstall you just loose the root-partition. The home-partition stays untouched. If you choose the same login name you can use the data on your home-partition as if nothing had happened.
[00:57] <aaronwi> ok
[00:57] <nusakan> Can someone help? I need setting up a webcam and getting my computer to recognize my flash drives, which it did until recently.
[00:57] <aaronwi> by default does it even encrypt the home partition?
[00:57] <Dr_willis> aaronwi,  no it does not.
[00:58] <aaronwi> k
[00:58] <mase_work> nusakan: we are all in here to help. Just let us know what your trying to do, what you have tried and what problems you are having.If someone knows how to help you they will.
[00:58] <axel_> aaronwi: Once I had installed Kubuntu, deleted it and installed OpenSuSe. I could work with my settings, E-Mails, etc as if I had always used openSuSe.
[00:58] <aaronwi> ok, thanks, I'll brb
[00:58] <axel_> aaronwi: then you must use the alternate-CD.
[00:58] <axel_> aaronwi: for installing.
[00:59] <axel_> aaronwi: Or you encrypt it after the installation.
[01:00] <nusakan> I am trying to set up skype so I can talk to my parents at college. The software is installed, I just need to get the webcam working. Also recently, after formatting and mounting my new external hard drive, my laptop stopped recognizing my flash drives.
[01:06] <axel_> nusakan: I don't know an answer but perhaps I can narrow the problem: Is the Kernel recognizing that a flash-drive is plugged in? (K-Menue > System > KSystemLog
[01:07] <axel_> nusakan: then in this program: protocol files (or similar, I'm using the German localization) > System protocoll.
[01:09] <nusakan> Nothing that looks like System protocoll
[01:09] <nusakan> stuff changes when I plug/unplug it though
[01:10] <nusakan> in the system log i mean
[01:10] <Alex135> back
[01:13] <aaronwi> ok im back
[01:14] <Dr_willis> I alwyas seem to end up just manually mounting stuff :)
[01:14] <aaronwi> so where do programs get installed when you use adept...or where are you supposed to install programs?
[01:14] <Alex135> aaronwi: it changes depending on the type of program
[01:14] <Alex135> aaronwi: files are spread all over
[01:14] <Dr_willis> aaronwi,  the parts  get installed to the system where they are supposed to go. :)
[01:14] <Dr_willis> there is no 'Program Files' directory that everything 'tries' to go into
[01:14] <aaronwi> ok
[01:15] <Alex135> aaronwi: ill show you, go into the start menu, then system, adept manager
[01:15] <Dr_willis> even under windows.. not everything gets installed to 'program files' :)
[01:15] <aaronwi> so if I have to do a reinstall i pretty much lose my programs
[01:15] <aaronwi> yes i realise that
[01:15] <Alex135> aaronwi: yea
[01:15] <Dr_willis> aaronwi,  unless you install specific apps into the users home directory.
[01:15] <Alex135> aaronwi: but it isn't that hard to reinstall stuff
[01:15] <aaronwi> alex135: im not using kubuntu yet :P
[01:15] <aaronwi> still waiting on the download
[01:15] <Alex135> aaronwi: oh :P
[01:16] <Alex135> aaronwi: i can help you set it up, its quite nice to setup
[01:16] <aaronwi> ok...but what about program preferences and etc
[01:16] <Alex135> aaronwi: KDE apps useually use a .kde folder in the home directory
[01:16] <Alex135> aaronwi: in the users home directory that is
[01:16] <aaronwi> k
[01:16] <Alex135> aaronwi: deleat that file and everything resets to defaults, which can be usefull at times
[01:16] <aaronwi> for the program files or just the settings
[01:16] <aaronwi> ok
[01:16] <Alex135> aaronwi: depends
[01:17] <Dr_willis> Linux is much more 'compartamentalized' :) then windows.
[01:17] <Alex135> aaronwi: default KDE apps use it as well as the settings are stored there
[01:17] <Dr_willis> System wide 'programs' are isntalled on the system...  user stuff goes in the users home dir.
[01:18] <aaronwi> k
[01:18] <aaronwi> linux doesnt have any form of a useless 'registry' does it?
[01:19] <Alex135> aaronwi: not that i know of
[01:19] <aaronwi> k thats good
[01:19] <mase_work> aaronwi: no not really. it does perform the same taks, in  adifferent way though
[01:19] <Alex135> aaronwi: i have never had to mess with one so far, and i have gone through billions of problems
[01:19] <aaronwi> k
[01:19] <aaronwi> should I set up Raid before I start this install?
[01:20] <mase_work> aaronwi: each application will have a configuration file (usually in /etc) and if it has local settings they will go in a  . file usually in your home dir
[01:20] <aaronwi> o ok
[01:20] <mase_work> aaronwi: are you running software raid,fake raid or hardware raid ?
[01:20] <aaronwi> never really knew what etc was for
[01:20] <aaronwi> hardware raid is what I would probably use, since my bios supports it
[01:20] <Alex135> i just go exploring through the system folders, never do really memorisze where each one is
[01:21] <aaronwi> evga 780i
[01:21] <mase_work> aaronwi: cool, then yeh set up your raid card to have the arrays you want
[01:21] <mase_work> then do a normal install t
[01:21] <aaronwi> the most hardcore linux stuff ive probably done is mess with dd-wrt on my router
[01:22] <Alex135> aaronwi: you have a long road ahead of you then, hehe
[01:22] <aaronwi> lol
[01:22] <mase_work> aaronwi: its pretty straight forward
[01:22] <aaronwi> good thing i wasnt scheduled to work all week :P
[01:23] <mase_work> kubuntu / linux isn't hard, its just different
[01:23] <Alex135> you will need to expand your comfort zone, and learn to work outside of it on a regular basis
[01:23] <aaronwi> well I figure after all the years of trial and error, I cant learn too much more advanced things on windows, besides vista, but I will never use vista, so now its off to master linux lol
[01:23] <Dr_willis> Linux Tip #1 - 'learn to think, learn to learn' :)
[01:24] <Dr_willis> Eventually you 'will' use vista.. thats the MS way. :)
[01:24] <aaronwi> lol, naa
[01:24] <aaronwi> unless im forced to at a job
[01:24] <Alex135> the world will switch to linux before it will use vista
[01:24] <aaronwi> even then...thats what live disks are for :P
[01:24] <Alex135> it will switch something that they know will work,
[01:24] <aaronwi> yup
[01:24] <aaronwi> or windows 7
[01:24] <Alex135> i dont trust windows 7
[01:24] <aaronwi> or w/e number that new one is
[01:25] <Alex135> it will be too hardware demanding
[01:25] <Alex135> yes it is windows 7
[01:25] <aaronwi> k
[01:25] <Alex135> its suposed to have multiple desktops... they cant come up with anything origional
[01:25] <aaronwi> am i going to have to manually find linux dirver for my video card or will it automatically get them
[01:25] <Alex135> aaronwi: depends
[01:26] <aaronwi> im using a nvidia 8800gts dual display dvi to hdmi
[01:26] <Alex135> aaronwi: depends on the type and model of videocard, but it is almost certian with a bit of help it will work
[01:26] <Alex135> aaronwi: you wont know till you try it
[01:26] <aaronwi> k
[01:26] <Dr_willis> nividia cards drivers are in the repos. :)
[01:26] <Alex135> aaronwi: no way to tell for sure
[01:26] <Dr_willis> takes me about 3 min ti get mine going.
[01:26] <mase_work> aaronwi: yeh it might be in the non free part of the repos
[01:26] <Alex135> aaronwi: even with the drivers you need to do some configuration sometimes to make it work
[01:26] <Alex135> mase_work: no they arn't in the non-free repos
[01:27] <aaronwi> does nvidia have actual linux drivers, or are all drivers user made
[01:27] <Alex135> aaronwi: yes and no
[01:27] <aaronwi> o
[01:27] <Dr_willis> !nvidia
[01:28] <mase_work> aaronwi: they make both closed and free drivers. The free drivers are 2d only though
[01:28] <mase_work> aaronwi: and they come with Xorg
[01:28] <aaronwi> :S need 3d
[01:28] <Alex135> aaronwi: you sometimes need to do some configuration to make hardware access work
[01:28] <mase_work> if you need 3d then you need the nonfree drivers either from apt or from nvidia.com
[01:28] <aaronwi> is xorg the display program
[01:29] <mase_work> aaronwi: roughly yes
[01:29] <Alex135> aaronwi: x11 is the display program
[01:29] <Alex135> aaronwi: xorg is part of it
[01:29] <aaronwi> ok
[01:29] <Alex135> aaronwi: xorg.conf is the configuration file
[01:29] <aaronwi> k
[01:30] <aaronwi> i think im going to get my other computer up and running, so I can chat to make sure i dont screw this install up lol
[01:30] <Alex135> aaronwi: ill help walk you through it if you want
[01:30] <aaronwi> sounds good
[01:31] <Alex135> aaronwi: im watching some of the videos i torrented, but i can multitask XD
[01:31] <aaronwi> lol
[01:33] <Musli> Hello!
[01:33] <Alex135> aaronwi: let me know when you are ready to start
[01:33] <aaronwi> k
[01:33] <Alex135> aaronwi: is this gonna be a duel boot machine?
[01:33] <aaronwi> i think itll be a half hour or so
[01:33] <Musli> I installed KDE for Ubuntu today and I am using compiz anyone know why i cant use more than 2 virtual desktops and it's not a cube ?
[01:33] <aaronwi> yes
[01:33] <Alex135> aaronwi: ah.... ok...
[01:33] <aaronwi> ill probably mainly use linux tho
[01:34] <Alex135> aaronwi: then we will have linux with most of the hdd space
[01:34] <aaronwi> cept in the rare cases im screwed...since this is my main computer and it will be in my dorm lol
[01:34] <Alex135> aaronwi: you going to leave the windows how it is?
[01:34] <aaronwi> ya, i guess?
[01:34] <Alex135> aaronwi: is windows set to use all the hdd space?
[01:34] <aaronwi> nope...i always install it to like 6 gb
[01:35] <Alex135> aaronwi: ah ok, good on ya then
[01:36] <Dr_willis> If you want to use Linux and be 'very' safe. then Install virtualbox on windows. and use Linux Inside that.
[01:36] <Alex135> i wouldn't do it that way though, you cant alwase do as much
[01:36] <aaronwi> naa...im trying to get away from windows
[01:36] <Dr_willis> That way you can have Linux in a window. :) and still get here if you need.
[01:36] <aaronwi> explorer always crashes...and this install is less then 2 weeks old
[01:36] <Dr_willis> It depends on what you are going to do.. virtualbox is a handy tool
[01:36] <aaronwi> i got 2 computers
[01:37]  * Dr_willis looks around and counts... err.. 4 in this one room.. :)
[01:37] <Dr_willis> and ive been cleaning them out/getting rid of them
[01:37] <Dr_willis> heh
[01:38]  * Alex135 only has one and only needs one :D
[01:38]  * Alex135 has a nice mini supercomputer :D
[01:39] <aaronwi> well..i have only 2 operational computers, then like 3 motehrboards sitting around, few cases, and lots of parts
[01:39] <Alex135> hehe
[01:39] <aaronwi> a mini super computer eh
[01:39] <Alex135> nice duel core CPU
[01:39] <Alex135> i want a quad core though
[01:40] <Alex135> 2GB of memory
[01:40] <aaronwi> i have quad :P
[01:40] <Alex135> YOU SUCK
[01:40] <aaronwi> q6600
[01:40] <aaronwi> 2.4 ghz
[01:40] <aaronwi> i need watercooling tho...this whole thing gets soo hot
[01:40] <aaronwi> its my first new computer in 6 years
[01:40] <Alex135> accounts. On Thursday, 8/14/08, we will reset the cPanel passwords for all
[01:40] <Alex135> accounts, which will temporarily disable your access to your account. This is so
[01:40] <Alex135> we can get in, create a full backup of your account, and transfer it to our new
[01:40] <Alex135> servers. You will later be e-mailed your password. However, there is a second,
[01:40] <Alex135> more recommended option...
[01:40] <Alex135> wops
[01:40] <Alex135> snap
[01:40] <Alex135> wrong thing
[01:41] <aaronwi> lol
[01:41] <Alex135> Hardware Architecture   : i686
[01:41]  * Gutter_Rat has two comps with matching mobo's, processors, and drives, etc., (only difference is video card) - one is my main box, the other is my 'crash' box, where I test stuff for kubuntu before actually doing it on my main pc.
[01:41] <Alex135> CPU Model               : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+
[01:41] <Alex135>         : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+
[01:41] <Alex135> CPU Speed               : 2611.905
[01:41] <Alex135>                 : 2611.905 MHz
[01:41] <Alex135> Kernel Version          : #1 SMP Fri Jul 11 23:41:49 UTC 2008
[01:41] <Alex135> Distro.                 : Ubuntu 8.04.1
[01:41] <buckethead> Hey guy.. The enter key isn't a replacement for a period (.)
[01:41] <Dr_willis> CPUs keep getting faster and faster.. and the OS's still seem to be slower and slower.
[01:41] <Dr_willis> :P
[01:41] <Alex135>  \l
[01:41] <Alex135> Kernel Release          : 2.6.24-19-generic
[01:42] <Alex135> System Uptime           : 20:40:38 up 1 day
[01:42] <Alex135> Hard Disk(s)
[01:42] <aaronwi> so tru dr willis
[01:42] <Alex135> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[01:42] <Alex135> /dev/sda1             290G  187G   89G  68% /
[01:42] <Alex135> varrun               1013M  344K 1013M   1% /var/run
[01:42] <Alex135> varlock              1013M  4.0K 1013M   1% /var/lock
[01:42] <Alex135> udev                 1013M   52K 1013M   1% /dev
[01:42] <Alex135> devshm               1013M     0 1013M   0% /dev/shm
[01:42] <aaronwi> i cant wait to overclock this thing tho...the cpu should easily surpas 3 ghz
[01:42] <Alex135> lrm                  1013M   39M  975M   4% /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/volatile
[01:42] <buckethead> Alex! We don't care!
[01:42] <Alex135> System Memory in MB
[01:42] <Alex135>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[01:42] <Alex135> Mem:          2025       1974         51          0         45       1505
[01:42] <Alex135> Swap:         5930         39       5891
[01:43] <Alex135> Total:        7956       2013       5942
[01:43] <Dr_willis> Bringing you the daily allocment of usless irc spam! :)
[01:43] <Alex135> there we go
[01:43] <aaronwi> u set it to output all ur stats to irc? lol
[01:43] <Alex135> my system stats /\
[01:43] <Alex135> buckethead, speak for yourself >.>
[01:43] <Alex135> no :P
[01:43] <Alex135> its a program i have that prints out crap
[01:43] <Alex135> i could have pasted the full one but it would have been a lot more :P
[01:43] <buckethead> Anybody else want to learn any more about his computer?
[01:43] <aaronwi> lol
[01:43] <Dr_willis> use the command ----->   df -h -x tmpfs -x devpts -x usbfs
[01:43] <Dr_willis> to show disk ussage.. gives much cleaner output
[01:43] <MrKennie> why not use pastebin so those who do care will look? :P
[01:43] <Alex135> buckethead, you can leave if you dont want to listen to it, just dont blabber it out, you can be polite and say stop instead of getting all pissy
[01:44]  * Alex135 wasn't thinking x.x
[01:44] <buckethead> I mentioned it to you three times with increasing pissyness.
[01:44] <Musli> where can i find KDE Control Center? xD i'm new :)
[01:44] <buckethead> Excuse my short fuse.
[01:45] <buckethead> Alt+f2 then type kcontrol
[01:45] <Alex135> start menu> system settings
[01:45] <carl-gunnar> ohh im in the wroong room
[01:45] <carl-gunnar> my bad
[01:45] <Alex135> hehehe
[01:46] <Musli> Thx alot Alex
[01:46] <Alex135> musli: np
[01:47] <Musli> this is strange when i change to more desktops i am still only able to get 2 :(
[01:48] <Alex135> right click on the desktops menu in the lower right hand corner of the creen
[01:48] <Alex135> screen*
[01:48] <Alex135> hit configure desktops and try it
[01:48] <Alex135> Musli: are you trying compiz in KDE?
[01:49] <Musli> yeas alex
[01:49] <Musli> yes
[01:49] <yao_ziyuan> i want to let GNOME's Update Manager check for updates at system startup, instead of Adept Updater. where do i make this change?
[01:49] <Alex135> Musli: compiz doesn't work in KDE properly
[01:49] <Musli> ok :(
[01:49] <Musli> it worked in gnome
[01:49] <Alex135> Musli: yes, gnome and KDE are 2 verry different things
[01:49] <Musli> yeah i guess so :)
[01:50] <Musli> but i'm still able to get 2 virtual desktops :)
[01:50] <nusakan> How does one install a webcam in Kubuntu
[01:50] <nusakan> ?
[01:50] <Musli> can it be that there is some wrong settings in compiz?
[01:50] <Alex135> Musli: no, its just not fully compatable
[01:50] <Musli> in thins Advanced Desktop Settings
[01:50] <Musli> this
[01:51] <Alex135> musli: i have tried before, i did everything i could but never got it working right
[01:51] <Alex135> musli: wait till KDE4 comes out, then you can have desktop effects of sorts
[01:52] <Musli> ok Alex! I am still able to get every other effect to work :)
[01:52] <Alex135> Musli: ya, it will work, to some degree, but it messes up other stuff....
[01:53] <Musli> ok nvm i'm still happy with my new KDE :)
[01:53] <Musli> and i've said goodbye to greedy windows xp :D
[01:53] <Alex135> musli: hehe, good for you
[01:55] <Musli> hehe i'm from finland and linus torvalds has his cottage really near :D
[01:57] <Musli> well thx 4 all help :)
[01:58] <Alex135> Musli: no prob
[01:59] <Dr_willis> Go buy him a Beer sometime.
[01:59] <Alex135> hehe
[02:00] <Gutter_Rat> is it fairly safe to switch from an ATI card to an nVidia card without kubuntu/kde barfing all over itself?
[02:00] <Alex135> !cookie|Alex135
[02:00] <Alex135> aww crud
[02:01] <Dragnslcr> Gutter_Rat- you'll have to change the drivers and possibly edit the xorg.conf file (if the driver installer doesn't do it for you)
[02:01] <Gutter_Rat> before swapping cards. or after?
[02:01] <Dragnslcr> Gutter_Rat- it should be possible, but it may not be entirely painless
[02:02] <resplin> I'm trying to get ssh-agent to use gpg-agent. In Hardy it looks almost setup out of the box. I'm trying to figure out how to get it working without ruining the default setup.
[02:02] <resplin> Any ideas?
[02:03] <resplin> Gutter_Rat: The system will boot, but you might not get video. I usually set sshd to start on bootup, then I can get to the config files to tweak them.
[02:03] <Hydrant> hey all... anyone dual-booted Ubuntu with WinXP?  Which do I install first?  I assume Windoze, since GRUB can always be written back to the MBR
[02:04] <Alex135> Hydrant: i duel boot as a standard
[02:04] <Alex135> Hydrant: windows first
[02:04] <Alex135> Hydrant: need help?
[02:04] <Hydrant> alright... I haven't dual-booted for the past 7 years... setting up the gf's system
[02:05] <Hydrant> thanks for the offer... I'm just wiping out Vista (eewww) with sysresccd...
[02:05] <Hydrant> how do I force windows to use FAT?  If I wipe the partition it tries to stick me with NTFS
[02:06] <Hydrant> Just create a fat partition, and let it reuse it?    Last I checked NTFS support with Linux was horribly broken
[02:07] <Memory_Moron> I use it painlessly everyday.
[02:07] <Alex135> Hydrant: you havn't checked in a while then
[02:07] <Hydrant> Nope :-(
[02:07] <Memory_Moron> I would use a shared fat partition for data, but you can do that in ntfs too for all it matters.
[02:07] <Hydrant> I've been a Linux purist for a long time, I don't even know how to get an IP address with Windows
[02:08] <Memory_Moron> I use truecrypt on top of it anyway to make really, really sure no one is going to hop in my data :P
[02:08] <Hydrant> I suppose Windows still can access nothing from Linux ?
[02:08] <Alex135> Hydrant: +
[02:08] <Alex135> wops
[02:08] <Alex135> erm
[02:08] <Memory_Moron> Not natively or easily
[02:09] <Dr_willis> Hydrant,  i have no issues with sharing data bween the 2
[02:09] <Alex135> Hydrant: there is a package that allows it to read linux file systems
[02:09] <Dr_willis> !ifs
[02:09] <Dr_willis> !ext2
[02:09] <Hydrant> np
[02:09] <Dr_willis> Sily bot.
[02:09] <Alex135> !ext3
[02:09] <Dr_willis> !ext3.1472982
[02:09] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:09] <Alex135> hehe get owned :D
[02:09] <Hydrant> I don't know how much I trust windows accessing ext3
[02:10] <Hydrant> as in not at all... I'd rather it screwed itself up
[02:10] <Dr_willis> Technically that windows tool is accessing it as ext2
[02:10] <Memory_Moron> I wouldn't bother mounting either system partition in the other..
[02:10] <Alex135> Ext2 and 3 are mostly the same
[02:10] <Memory_Moron> I would have a seperate data partition accessed from both.
[02:10] <Dr_willis> I alwyas manually 'unmount' my linux parititons from windows when using that tool
[02:10] <Hydrant> just want to share some music... since iTunes has yet to grace us with a Linux version
[02:10] <Dr_willis> linux can read/write ntfs very well now a days
[02:11] <tobor> Hi - On dfapper dan - does anyone know the boot options for increasing the resolution of the console (Note - thats the console, eg the virtual ttys, not the resolution of X-windows)
[02:11] <Hydrant> k...  Winamp/Amarok/GTKPod can do the same thing faster and easier.
[02:11] <Hydrant> not for the iPhone
[02:11] <Hydrant> without jailbreaking, and it's a pain in the arse to get it to sync
[02:11] <Dr_willis> tobor,  you would set the framebuffer/vga settings from the grub menu - OR use the fbset command
[02:12] <Memory_Moron> Ah. There is a reason why i'm not buying an iPhone yet!
[02:12] <Dr_willis> I have a lot of reasonms to not use an iPhone
[02:12] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:12] <Hydrant> yah... have to get it over wireless and SSH... takes forever, and SSH times out after a bit... so I have to keep pinging it to keep it alive
[02:12] <Hydrant> at least with the iPod touch... not jailbreaking my iPhone... its for production use, and I haven an openmoko freerunner for play
[02:13] <Hydrant> do I still have to have a /boot partition in the first cylinder for Linux to boot, or are those days gone ?
[02:13] <Dr_willis> Hydrant,  that was a bios/lilo/drive  issue for the most part - its gone
[02:14] <Dr_willis> not been an issue for ages
[02:16] <tobor> Dr_willis: Thanks!  note man fbset lead me to /usr/share/doc/fbset/FAQ
[02:18] <Hydrant2> sorry... wireless timed out
[02:18] <Hydrant2> missed the past 3 minutes
[02:18] <Alex135> [21:13] <Dr_willis> Hydrant,  that was a bios/lilo/drive  issue for the most part - its gone
[02:18] <Alex135> [21:14] <Dr_willis> not been an issue for ages
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[02:18] <Alex135> [21:16] <tobor> Dr_willis: Thanks!  note man fbset lead me to /usr/share/doc/fbset/FAQ
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[02:18] <Hydrant> Alex135: thanks!
[02:18] <Alex135> Hydrant: np :)
[02:19] <Hydrant> I'm a bit out of date with the latest Linux / Windows play nice issues
[02:19] <Hydrant> thanks for bringing me up to date
[02:19] <Alex135> Hydrant: np, were happy to help
[02:19] <Hydrant> have to admit I like the Ubuntu way of IRC... normally I get flamed by some 14 year old on IRC about FAQs or something :-0
[02:20] <Memory_Moron> Can I sum it up? Even though linux has brought a massive effort to bear on playing nice with windows, microsoft has spent its time poo-poohing everyone .. and raising prices.
[02:21] <Hydrant> more like beaing up everyone... accusing the world of using their trade secrets and software patents... which will remain unnamed
[02:21] <Alex135> Hydrant: i am a 15 year old, hehe, but im sorta starting out in linux relativly although ive been useing it for 4 years
[02:21] <Hydrant> and just bent on world domination by racketeering, fraud, etc.
[02:21] <Hydrant> Alex135: nothing wrong with that
[02:21] <Hydrant> Alex135: starting out earlier than me, I started at 17 or 18 I think, don't remember
[02:22] <Alex135> Hydrant: what did you expect? kids these days are the only ones that can do must stuff now :P
[02:22] <Hydrant> but those were back in the days when it was uphills both ways you know... and the thought of a USB device with Linux made you have night terrors
[02:22] <Alex135> hehehe
[02:22] <Hydrant> 2.0 kernel I think... Debian Sid
[02:22] <Alex135> ouch
[02:22] <Hydrant> maybe 2.2
[02:22] <Alex135> that must have been bad
[02:23] <Hydrant> 6 months to configure X :-)
[02:23] <Alex135> hehe
[02:23] <Hydrant> although that was me knowing nothing
[02:23] <Alex135> it took me 2 days to master the xorg.conf files
[02:23] <Hydrant> very nice
[02:23] <Alex135> Hydrant: goole is your friend :)
[02:23] <Alex135> google*
[02:23] <Hydrant> not then
[02:23] <Hydrant> back in the old days remember
[02:24] <Alex135> i mean to master it and get it all working and knowing everything about it though....
[02:24] <Alex135> yes, google wasn't even around back then i know
[02:24] <Hydrant> I'm not sure I want to know everything about Xorg
[02:24] <Alex135> i had to know... my grafics card was really weird
[02:24] <Hydrant> it was XFree86 back then though ;-)
[02:24] <Hydrant> ... these young whipper snappers
[02:25] <Alex135> my Vid card was messed up and ubuntu didn't auto detect it
[02:25] <Alex135> hehe
[02:25] <Alex135> hey, this yung whipper snapper just brought you up to date on the windows to linux and back again file transfer :P
[02:26] <Hydrant> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda count=1000 #DIE VISTA
[02:26] <Memory_Moron> I want to see alex cry.. Lets send him all the old stuff in the attic. I've got an 80286 i'll donate :)
[02:26] <Hydrant> haha
[02:26] <Alex135> funny
[02:26] <Hydrant> 386 would be better
[02:26] <Hydrant> I remember starting with Corel Linux on my P75
[02:26] <Hydrant> and thinking I was 133t for getting a 133
[02:27] <Alex135> alright i can tell when im not wanted :P
[02:27] <Memory_Moron> Heh, I'm screwing around.
[02:27] <Alex135> me too ;)
[02:27] <Hydrant> Just linux has come so far
[02:27] <Alex135> indeed
[02:27]  * Hydrant wipes tears
[02:27] <Alex135> and it has far to come
[02:27] <Memory_Moron> A 286 will run a(slightly outdated) version of minix.
[02:28] <Alex135> in the future
[02:28] <Alex135> its interesting how so many people are useing linux these days.... that and the Unix's rip off brother... the Mac
[02:28] <Alex135> Its sad, Mac's were based off Unix
[02:29] <Memory_Moron> It doesn't matter, they are cute. Thats the only reason people buy them.
[02:29] <Alex135> a computer? cute?
[02:29] <Alex135> oh man
[02:29] <Hydrant> people buy Mac because it's a fashion trend, and because Linux is hard to use
[02:29] <Alex135> tell me i didn't just read someone say that...
[02:29] <Alex135> Linux? hard to use?
[02:29] <Hydrant> Mac likes this, and is worse than MS in some ways
[02:30] <Hydrant> it is in comparison to Mac
[02:30] <Alex135> ah
[02:30] <Hydrant> although that stupid one-mouse-button thing kills me
[02:30] <Alex135> most people are just too lazy to figure it out
[02:30] <Alex135> i cant figure out a mac
[02:30] <Hydrant> I always had to just get to a terminal
[02:30] <Hydrant> and sometimes I would lose that
[02:30] <flaccid_> people buy mac for lots of reasons, but this aint the chan to discuss it :O
[02:30] <Hydrant> OpenSolaris is coming out too / is already
[02:30] <Alex135> whenever i am forced to use a mac, i just SSH into my computer here at home and open a X11VNC session
[02:31] <Hydrant> hrrm... apparently XP doesn't like sata drives
[02:31] <Alex135> it doesn't?
[02:31] <Alex135> im running XP on one
[02:31] <Alex135> well i do when i duel boot over to it
[02:31] <flaccid_> this aint ##windows either
[02:32] <Alex135> ah
[02:33] <Memory_Moron> xp wants you to put the drivers in way early. its like hit f6 nwo to install sata drivers
[02:33] <Hydrant> it's SP1... might have to get SP2
[02:33] <Alex135> oh, you def need SP2
[02:34] <trtwiggy> no u don't
[02:34] <trtwiggy> i run raid 0 and start out with a xp with no service pack install
[02:34] <Alex135> although i havn't ever tried installing windows XP SP1 on a machien with a sata drive.... hmmmm
[02:41] <trtwiggy> magic --help
[02:41] <trtwiggy> oops
[02:44] <Alex135> well time for me to head off, i got work in the morning... bye all
[02:44] <Alex135> Hydrant: Cya
[02:53] <Hydrant> Alex135: later
[03:05] <kduser> Hallo
[03:06] <kduser> Does any one know if KDE starts any DBUs for sound upon init
[03:07] <kduser> DBUS
[03:08] <flaccid> kduser: hmm #kde might be able to answer that
[03:09] <kduser> flaccid: I notice that no sound works on the computer until I start KDE
[03:10] <flaccid> kduser: right. do a test with aplay before running kde
[03:10] <kduser> Have been for a while
[03:10] <flaccid> and what was the output?
[03:10] <kduser> I start music or whatever before I load KDE and it plays
[03:10] <kduser> Nothing
[03:10] <kduser> then while It is playing I load KDE
[03:10] <kduser>  Boom sound
[03:10] <flaccid> aplay will always output
[03:10] <flaccid> especially with the -v option as well
[03:11] <flaccid> im talking stdout/stderr not sound
[03:11] <gustavo> oie
[03:11] <kduser> oy
[03:11] <kduser> flaccid: Wait what?
[03:11] <gustavo> como vc ta?
[03:12] <kduser> which package has aplay ?
[03:12] <kduser> !es
[03:12] <flaccid> kduser: not sure, but it comes with alsa
[03:12] <kduser> I don't have alsa
[03:12] <kduser> It seems
[03:12] <flaccid> alsa comes with kubuntu
[03:12] <kduser> no libalsa no alsamixer etc
[03:12] <flaccid> kduser install the pkgs alsa-base and alsa-utils
[03:13] <flaccid> and i'd suggest ubuntu-minimal as well just to make sure you have the base stuff
[03:14] <lumlum> how come adept dosent have firefox to install? and how come when i type sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0 it says cannot find firefox?
[03:14] <flaccid> !info firefox | lumlum
[03:14] <flaccid> the package name is firefox and you only need main enabled
[03:15] <aaronwi1> .
[03:15] <lumlum> what does "main enabled" mean
[03:15] <flaccid> lumlum: that is a repos which needs to be enabled in Manage Repositories in adept manager. it is enabled by default
[03:15] <flaccid> lumlum: which kubuntu version are you uon?
[03:16] <lumlum> 8.04 i think? its the latest one they send out with the cd i know
[03:16] <flaccid> sweeet
[03:16] <kduser> flaccid: Yeah still nothing
[03:16] <flaccid> kduser: no such thing as nothing
[03:17] <kduser> Unsigned 8bit Rate 8000 Hz mono
[03:17] <kduser> ^^^
[03:17] <flaccid> and it says playing right? (this is more than nothing :))
[03:19] <flaccid> anyway if no errors with aplay, then you check alsamixer to make sure levels are right etc.
[03:20] <lumlum> it seems as if i cant install anything through the terminal even if i follow the command it gives me. i have the same problem with pidgin
[03:20] <kduser> Yes it does :)
[03:20] <kduser> No issues I see
[03:21] <flaccid> lumlum: what are the errors?
[03:22] <lumlum> it says cannot find package
[03:22] <flaccid> kduser: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart (and possibly try a reboot if you just installed alsa). im not sure what else to check..
[03:22] <lumlum> even if i follow the sudo command it gives me
[03:22] <flaccid> !info pidgin | lumlum
[03:22] <kduser> flaccid: I'm telling you that everythign works like groovy gravy gumption once you load KDE
[03:22] <flaccid> lumlum: you either need to enable the main repos in adept or fetch updates
[03:23] <flaccid> kduser: yeah i read that before
[03:23] <kduser> Even if you just load it then logout and kill X
[03:23] <kduser>  Sound from the command line works fine
[03:23] <flaccid> kduser: i don't know why you didn't have alsa. it comes with kubuntu so who knows what else is not right..
[03:23] <lumlum> flaccid, can you tell me how to do that?
[03:23] <kduser> I'm assuming that it's something just below KDE like DBUS that does the magic
[03:23] <flaccid> !adept | lumlum
[03:23] <flaccid> !repos | lumlum
[03:23] <lumlum> thanks man!
[03:23] <flaccid> lumlum: manage repositories from the top menu in adept manager
[03:23] <kduser> Anyone have a spare 8.04 machine hanging around the place?
[03:23] <flaccid> lumlum: np
[03:24] <kduser> I just want someone to boot up then terminal jump
[03:25] <kduser> flaccid: I'll wager that it's the same for everyone
[03:26] <flaccid> kduser: so boot up to kdm, don't login, goto a tty and do aplay?
[03:27] <mx814> hi
[03:27] <kduser> flaccid: Yes
[03:27] <mx814> can anyone help me with my keyboard layout?
[03:28] <flaccid> kduser: i might be able to test this soon
[03:29] <kduser> !keyboard
[03:30] <mx814> the problem is.. i want to write in arabic font.. and it doesn't work
[03:30] <mx814> it's still the usuall font
[03:33] <Hydrant> mx814: interesting... don't know how to help though... I guess arabic is going to have a completely different font set.
[03:33] <Hydrant> mx814: maybe you can install a kde locale package ?
[03:34] <tea-too> in windows you have to enablr left to right languges to use arabic , but i don't know in linux
[03:34] <tea-too> err right to left
[03:34] <Hydrant> the deb package should handle that if it exists
[03:34] <Hydrant> mx814: is it your PC ?
[03:36] <mx814> i installed some packages..
[03:36] <mx814> maybe i just sould restart
[03:37] <tea-too> almost never in linux
[03:37] <Hydrant> I'm just thinking that if it's a fresh install of kubuntu, maybe you should select your language in the installer as being arabic ?
[03:38] <Hydrant> maybe it's obvious, but you set your keyboard layout in control center right ?
[03:38] <kduser> KDE shuld have right to left support pretty much transparently shouldnt it?
[03:38] <mx814> yes i set it
[03:39] <Hydrant> I don't know, depends on how KDE did it
[03:39] <mx814> and i have a layout switcher in my task bar
[03:39] <Hydrant> nice
[03:39] <Hydrant> so the issue you said was just the font isn't there?  what does it type?  unicode chars?
[03:39] <mx814> but it doesn't change anything if i click on it
[03:39] <mx814> yes
[03:39] <kduser> flaccid: Cool let me know
[03:39] <Hydrant> the KDE layout is a strange beast
[03:39] <mx814> :)
[03:39] <Hydrant> did you add arabic keyboards in control center?
[03:39] <kduser> Or anyone else wh has a spare 8.04 machine :)
[03:40] <flaccid> kduser: let you know what sorry?
[03:40] <kduser> root: don't IRC as ROOT!
[03:40] <mx814> yes
[03:40] <flaccid> kduser: oh give me a little bit and i'll reboot
[03:40] <kduser> flaccid: about the boot up to KDM then VT and try aplay
[03:40] <kduser> then go back andlogin while it's playing
[03:40] <mx814> there is a prcocess running localdef
[03:41] <mx814> but it doesn't finish..
[03:41] <mx814> runs for a long time now
[03:41] <Hydrant> mx814: have you looked on google ?
[03:41] <mx814> yes.. but i don't exactly know for what to google
[03:41] <Hydrant> I can help, but can just speculate... but there are likely others
[03:41] <Hydrant> look for arabic locale KDE
[03:41] <mx814> there is a lot of stuff .but nothing that helps
[03:41] <Hydrant> or arabic kubuntu
[03:42] <Hydrant> is this a fresh install?
[03:42] <mx814> kk
[03:42] <mx814> no
[03:42] <Hydrant> k
[03:42] <Hydrant> lemme just check the repos
[03:42] <Hydrant> maybe install language-pack-kde-ar-base ?
[03:43] <Hydrant> again, I'm just making some educated guesses
[03:43] <mx814> i cant right now because localedef is still running :)
[03:43] <Hydrant> not sure what localedef is
[03:43] <Hydrant> killall localedef :-)
[03:43] <Hydrant> btw, I assume you're not on a server of course :-)
[03:44] <mx814> no
[03:44] <mx814> killall doesnt work
[03:44] <mx814> also kill -9
[03:44] <Hydrant> really?  Who owns the process ?
[03:45] <Hydrant> can you pastebin ps -eaf | grep localedef  for me ?
[03:45] <mx814> root
[03:46] <mx814> root      9946  9926 97 03:25 pts/3    01:18:03 localedef --no-archive --magic=20051014 -i ar_AE -c -f UTF-8 ar_AE.UTF-8
[03:46] <flaccid> !doesntwork | mx814
[03:47] <mx814> ?
[03:47] <bdizzle_> question
[03:47] <bdizzle_> sorry, duh
[03:47] <bdizzle_> anyway, how do I get my Linksys WUSB54G to work faster? its connected to a T1 network and only downloading at about 12 kb/s
[03:47] <faileas> mx814: Try sudo kill -9 pid ?
[03:48] <Hydrant> hrrm... why would root own that ?
[03:48] <Hydrant> KDE must be doing something else
[03:48] <mx814> because i installed a package
[03:48] <Hydrant> mx814: #kde might be a better place btw
[03:48] <kduser> Guest656: YOu are still root
[03:48] <Hydrant> yah... sudo should have done it
[03:49] <Hydrant> what package btw ?
[03:49] <mx814> should :)
[03:49] <mx814> dunno
[03:49] <mx814> was with the kde settings manager
[03:49] <mx814> i just reboot and start over
[03:49] <mx814> perhaps it works :)
[03:49] <mx814> but tnx for the help
[03:50] <Hydrant> reboot will do nothing
[03:50] <Hydrant> trust me :-)
[03:50] <Hydrant> unless you changed the kernel, or something very very strange is going on... or  you're too lazy to figure out what's wrong, but generally reboot does nothing
[03:51] <mx814> it will kill localedef
[04:06] <bdizzle_> anyway, how do I get my Linksys WUSB54G network adapter to work faster? its connected to a T1 network and only downloading at about 12 kb/s, whereas my laptop that is connected to the same network is doing the 1 MB/s thing it should be
[04:07] <flaccid> bdizzle_: you don't need to repeat here you know. do a 2min ping test and see if you get any packet loss. does this machine have wired ethernet as well, does that work fine?
[04:08] <bdizzle_> wired doesn't work thanks to their stupid system. which is why I'm having to go wireless on my desktop
[04:08] <kduser> flaccid: rebooted?
[04:08] <flaccid> kduser: aplay plays files fine
[04:08] <bdizzle_> just ping google for two minutes?
[04:09] <kduser> before KDE loads?
[04:09] <flaccid> bdizzle_: nah not google something less traffic than that, google has common packet loss
[04:09] <flaccid> kduser: yes0r
[04:09]  * kduser curses
[04:09] <kduser> what's the deal then?
[04:10]  * kduser ponders updating to KDE 4.1 to see if that gives love
[04:10] <bdizzle_> ok
[04:10] <bdizzle_> ubuntuforums.org?
[04:11] <flaccid> kduser: i would check logs and submit a bug. i don't see what DEs have to do with it..
[04:11] <flaccid> bdizzle_: yeah
[04:11] <kduser> flaccid: I didn't either I was highly surprised
[04:11] <bdizzle_> k
[04:11] <kduser> I'm still highly surprised
[04:11] <boggystudios> Does anyone know if the Nvidia 9700 GTS chip is supported in linux yet?
[04:13] <flaccid> just becuase the DE helps enable the sound doesn't mean its the problem
[04:13] <flaccid> boggystudios: probably with the beta drivers, check nvidia's website
[04:13] <kduser> I don't even know what's kicking in the sound :(
[04:20] <gkffjcs_> amarokcollection is taking up tones of cpu time, and generally annoying me, I like having amarok watch my music folder, but is there a way to moderate the amarokcollection daemon, it seems to never stop.
[04:27] <sporkf> is tune2fs -c 0 /dev/hda1  not the command to cease fsck at boot time?
[04:27] <sporkf> if so... it failed misserably
[04:27] <concernedcitizen> is it normal for NetworkManager to take up over 14.9% of my memory (2GB)
[04:27] <sporkf> miserably
[04:28] <sporkf> /dev/hda1: [04:29] <sporkf> it says that at start up
[04:29] <sporkf> how do i stop it and just boot the OS
[04:30] <sporkf> sigh
[04:30] <sporkf> linux garbage
[04:30] <flaccid> its probably disk checking. you can't stop it afaik
[04:30] <sporkf> fuck
[04:31] <sporkf> piece of crap
[04:31] <flaccid> sporkf: its not garbage, it checks your disks after 30 times. this can be changed in /etc/fstab
[04:31] <flaccid> !language | sprok
[04:31] <sporkf> flaccid: after 30 times my ass. it's been doign this after every 3-5 times.  no exageration
[04:32] <faileas> sporkf: are you shutting down cleanly?
[04:32] <sporkf> where in /etc/fstab
[04:32] <flaccid> its the last two options of an fstab entry
[04:33] <flaccid> sporkf: what does it say it is doing? [04:34] <mortici> im using reiserfs and i have yet to run into a check.... you might just have a failing drive if it keeps scanning it.........
[04:34] <sporkf> i have had the drive for less than a year
[04:34] <mortici> so... a hdd can die in a week (and yes i have seen that happen)
[04:34] <sporkf> it's not the drive... it's liux
[04:34] <sporkf> linux
[04:35] <flaccid> sporkf: how would you know?
[04:35] <mortici> i see well edit the fstab file and change the last to options of your / mount to 0 0 (zero zero) it will omit the check but im not responsible for data loss...
[04:36] <mortici> i.e /dev/hda1 / ext3 defaults 0 0 (this is just an example)
[04:36] <sporkf> id rather run fsck via cron while im asleep
[04:36] <sporkf> thanx
[04:37] <mortici> but id try to figure out why its doing it so frequently
[04:37] <mortici> what fs type?
[04:37] <sporkf> ext3
[04:38] <mortici> :/ i run reiserfs.....
[04:38] <sporkf> does reiserfs have faster performance?
[04:38] <flaccid> sporkf: so what does it say it is doing above the progress meter ?
[04:38] <sporkf> checking / file system
[04:39] <sporkf> is the line prior to [04:39] <mortici> ive used it ever since susie 8.0 had it :) ive been very happy and haven't tried others but the journaling is quite quick....... to me its quick enough and stable :)
[04:39] <sporkf> mortici: doesent keep ing a journal consume resources?
[04:39] <flaccid> cool. sporkf there is lots of resources on line to learn fstab options
[04:39] <mortici> not that ive noticed
[04:39] <Memory_Moron> Anybody use libcoolkey?
[04:39] <mase_work> sporkf: performance is relative. I like reiserfs but it depends what your doing and what you care about which FS you should run
[04:39] <sporkf> is the journal for the fs or the end user
[04:39] <mortici> sporkf: do you have a 0 1 or 0 2?
[04:40] <mortici> FS
[04:40] <sporkf> what do you mean 0 1  or 0 2
[04:40] <mortici> at the end of the fstab
[04:40] <sporkf> im using ext3
[04:40] <sporkf> it's still booting
[04:40] <mortici> ...line sorry ;)
[04:40] <mortici> is it scanning again?
[04:41] <sporkf> 0 1
[04:41] <sporkf> im gonna change it to 0 0
[04:42] <sporkf> what does dump and pass mean ?
[04:42] <sporkf> im assuming pass means to run fsck
[04:42] <sporkf> why they called it pass and not fcskatboot...
[04:43] <juandiego>  have a broadcom 4311 wifi which i have finally beated and made work in wpa connections but i still cannot connect to wep
[04:43] <concernedcitizen> is it time to upgrade to the new kde?
[04:43] <juandiego> any ideas?
[04:43] <mortici> sporkf: dunno :(
[04:44] <mortici> sporkf: you can also disable the interval check by doing: tune2fs -c 0 -i 0
[04:44] <mortici> err
[04:44] <mortici> sudo ....
[04:44] <Memory_Moron> concernedcitizen: What is your main purpose in computer life?
[04:44] <flaccid> see man fstab and !fstab and google :)
[04:44] <bdizzle_> what is the site to manually download the packages and their dependencies?
[04:45] <bdizzle_> its like packages.ubuntu.com or something
[04:45] <flaccid> thats the one
[04:46] <concernedcitizen> Memory_Moron: academia + server administration remotely
[04:47] <concernedcitizen> and hopefully the ocassional teamfortress 2 via wine
[04:47] <Memory_Moron> Should be fine for you. How do you do your remote admin?
[04:48] <Memory_Moron> NX gave me some problems, Installing the dbus-x11 package fixed it.
[04:48] <faileas> <3 nx ^^
[04:49] <concernedcitizen> what are the critical bugs with kde 4 right now that we should be concerned about?
[04:50] <Memory_Moron> khotkeys is still a hot mess. Not much else has been tweaking my ire as of late. 4.0 gave me about 234652346 different problems with desktop effects, but 4.1 works fine.
[04:52] <concernedcitizen> oh yeah on a side note, is anyone having problems rendering youtube videos on konqueror? Not only it doesn't load up the youtube videos (I have the plugin installed), but scrolling up and down the page is not smooth at all
[04:53] <bdizzle_> I dunno concernedcitizen, I just use firefox for everything. Konqueror gives me headaches
[04:53] <flaccid> concernedcitizen: wrong chan for kde4, see topic
[04:53] <concernedcitizen> but FF looks :-( on KDE
[04:53] <flaccid> concernedcitizen: they are working on a new gtk/qt engine and you may need to disable smooth scrolling in your konq settings
[04:54] <mortici> konq angered me :(
[04:54] <concernedcitizen> where's smooth scrolling in konq settings? lemme try and find it ;(
[04:56] <flaccid> concernedcitizen: i think its only in konq kde4
[05:47] <mortici> is there a way to clear my kde settings, like nuke the whole thing can i just delete .kde* from the home directory and call it a day?
[05:48] <alexman> hey
[05:48] <SitUbuntuSit> mortici, I think you can... I've delted .kde4 before to clear up a disappearing taskbar issue
[05:48] <alexman> anyone have any knowledge of how to start your own Private WoW server?
[05:48] <SitUbuntuSit> *deleted
[05:48] <DarthFrog> mortici: If you do that (and yes you can), you'll want to restore the .kde directory.
[05:49] <flaccid> alexman: this is kubuntu support, not wow.
[05:49] <alexman> hehe
[05:49] <SitUbuntuSit> DarthFrog, wouldn't it do that the next time you login?
[05:49] <alexman> yes, but im using kubuntu to make a world of warcraft server
[05:49] <flaccid> mortici: if you are happy to loose all of that then yeah thats a quick solution to whatever your problem is heh
[05:49] <DarthFrog> SitUbuntuSit: I don't know. :-)  I've never done it.
[05:49] <flaccid> alexman: we don't support wow here sorry
[05:50] <alexman> ok...jeeze sorry for asking
[05:50] <mortici> kwin is freaking out on me now :(
[05:50] <DarthFrog> SitUbuntuSit: So I'd do it on a guest account first, to try it and see.
[05:51] <flaccid> alexman: thats ok :)
[05:51] <alexman> lol
[05:51] <SitUbuntuSit> right... I'm sure it does work, but that's a great idea. i believe it defaults everything.
[05:52] <flaccid> alexman: if you have specific questions about trying to set it up in kubuntu then yes we can help as they are kubuntu commands etc. but spoonfeeding a solution to something non-kubuntu with something non-linux like that..
[05:52] <alexman> ok sorr
[05:52] <mortici> i reinstalled kwin we will see if that helps
[05:52] <alexman> i see what you meen now
[05:52] <mortici> stupid plasmoid broke kwin :(
[05:52] <flaccid> happy to help with 'im trying to install this wow thing with this command and i get this error' etc..
[05:52] <DarthFrog> mortici: File a bug report, please.
[05:53] <alexman> ok
[05:53] <alexman> how about this then
[05:53] <alexman> root@alexbert-ubtuntu:/home/blender/Desktop/mangos-0.9.0# install
[05:53] <alexman> install: missing file operand
[05:53] <alexman> Try `install --help' for more information.
[05:53] <mortici> #6  0xb5d68b78 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1 thats the backtrace :(
[05:54] <mortici> kwin crashed with a signal 11
[05:54] <alexman> now, i cant figure out how to build this program and those were the errors
[05:54] <flaccid> alexman: just like it says you are missing params
[05:54] <flaccid> alexman: read the mangos doco
[05:54] <alexman> ok
[05:55] <alexman> it just says to run autoreconf --install --force
[05:55] <alexman> which i did
[05:55] <flaccid> sweet
[05:55] <flaccid> !find mangos
[05:56] <alexman> mangos not found
[05:56] <flaccid> alexman: sorry?
[05:57] <alexman> it says its not found
[05:57] <chao1> does anyone know how I can list what dev are connected via usb? I have all ready tried lsusb
[05:57] <alexman> -bash: !find: event not found
[05:57] <SitUbuntuSit> alexman, where did you download it from... have a link
[05:57] <chao1> that doesn't give me what /dev/sdxx that it is
[05:57] <DarthFrog> mortici: A signal  11 is also known as: segfault, segmentation fault, general protection failure, unrecoverable application error. :-)
[05:57] <flaccid> alexman: um. !find is a bot call in this channel, that wasn't for you
[05:57] <alexman> oh ok
[05:57] <mortici> DarthFrog: checked dmesg its saying plasma is tainted
[05:58] <alexman> http://sourceforge.net/projects/mangos/
[05:58] <mortici> im going to remove it and re installed
[05:58] <flaccid> alexman: i assume this thing comes with an INSTALL or README file which will detail the instructions..
[05:58] <DarthFrog> Plasma is tainted?  Wow.
[05:59] <DarthFrog> chao1: Try "dmesg | grep sd"
[05:59] <alexman> readme is pretty lame
[05:59] <alexman> ah
[05:59] <alexman> didnt run configure
[06:01] <chao1> DarthFrog: that only mentions my main drive
[06:01] <flaccid> alexman: yes. so looks like you need to compile it before installing which is pretty standard for source code
[06:01] <alexman> ok
[06:01] <DarthFrog> chao1:  Could you try unplugging the USB device, then plug it back in and see what dmesg reports?
[06:02] <alexman> im pretty good with linux but when it comes to compiling something im usually in the dark =\
[06:02] <bdizzle_> ugh
[06:02] <bdizzle_> Adept caused a sigserv error?
[06:02] <flaccid> alexman: so a rule of thumb in IT.. always read the doco. see !build for requirements on compiling stuff in ubuntu
[06:04] <faileas> alexman: its not that hard. its fairly standard (though i use checkinstall instead of make install...)
[06:07] <alexman> ok
[06:07] <alexman> !build
[06:08] <SitUbuntuSit> alexman, i'm compiling now... seems to be going smoothly, if it works, ill let you know what to do
[06:09] <SitUbuntuSit> and for the record, the command with force in it was for someone who previously installed through svn
[06:09] <rahul_> ftgh
[06:10] <rahul_> jhlhjl
[06:10] <rahul_> Hi
[06:10] <rahul_> alll
[06:10] <rahul_> Good Morning
[06:11] <chao1> DarthFrog: it still gave very little information
[06:12] <DarthFrog> chao1: What did it tell you?
[06:13] <chao1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/36744/
[06:13] <alexman> ok thanks
[06:13] <DarthFrog> chao1: From that, all I see is two hard drives.
[06:14] <chao1> ok that is true. one is in a usb external enclosure
[06:14] <DarthFrog> chao1: Is that what you're trying to discover?
[06:14] <chao1> yes.
[06:14] <DarthFrog> chao1: It's likely sdb.
[06:14] <chao1> it has a lot of partition errors one of which I have pictures that need to be recovered
[06:15] <DarthFrog> chao1: Because your root partition is on /dev/sda5.
[06:16] <chao1> I tried that and all it says is sudo mount -o ro /dev/sdb3 /media/test/
[06:16] <chao1> mount: special device /dev/sdb3 does not exist
[06:16] <chao1> I have tried several numbers at the end and nothing works
[06:16] <DarthFrog> chao1: What do you see with "cfdisk /dev/sdb"?
[06:17] <chao1> fatal error: cannot open disk drive
[06:17] <DarthFrog> try "fdisk /dev/sdb"
[06:18] <chao1> also /dev/sda5 is the device that I am working in
[06:18] <DarthFrog> You might need to use sudo.
[06:18] <chao1> Unable to open /dev/sdb
[06:18] <DarthFrog> You're toast.
[06:18] <chao1> =-O
[06:19] <alexman> SitUbuntuSit: i got mangos working, now i gotta learn how to use myswl
[06:19] <alexman> mysql
[06:19] <chao1> i tried it with sudo and the same answer
[06:19] <DarthFrog> chao1: It sounds like your partition table is hosed.
[06:20] <chao1> I have heard of putting it in a freezer for two hours and then attempting to run it. But that is only when the disk is not spinning.
[06:20] <chao1> how do I fix the table?
[06:20] <chao1> get super glue?
[06:20] <chao1> lol
[06:20] <DarthFrog> chao1: That's guru-level stuff.
[06:20] <chao1> use the force
[06:21] <DarthFrog> Or a data recovery service.
[06:21] <chao1> expensive
[06:21] <DarthFrog> Quite.
[06:21] <chao1> i need free open source.
[06:21] <DarthFrog> Good thing we keep backups. :-)
[06:21] <chao1> not i
[06:21] <chao1> :(
[06:21] <DarthFrog> There are partition recovery tools out there.   I haven
[06:22] <chao1> t done that in a while
[06:22] <chao1> thanks.
[06:23] <chao1> tried testdisk and it only got some temp files from the browser.
[06:23]  * DarthFrog is now doing his own backup. :-)
[06:24] <DarthFrog> Rsync is my friend.
[06:24] <chao1> what is Rsync
[06:26] <DarthFrog> A superb utility for copying, mirroring and/or backups.  "man rsync"  Once you start using it, you'll not want to do with out it.  It's written by Tridge, the same guy who started Samba.
[06:26] <DarthFrog> !rsync
[06:26] <chao1> sounds great
[06:27] <chao1> thanks. one other question... how do you do the message that said you were doing your own backup and how do you change the colors
[06:27] <DarthFrog> I didn't change the colours.
[06:28] <DarthFrog>  But I started the line with /me.
[06:28] <chao1> I tried clicking on the font button and nothing works
[06:28] <chao1> thanks. gnite from here
[06:28] <DarthFrog> Try this: "/me wishes he had done a recent backup."
[06:29] <chao1> /me wishes he had done a recent backup.
[06:29] <DarthFrog> Hmm. it didn't work.  Strange.
[06:29] <chao1> yep
[06:31] <lunch> where's tacplus, it's not in the repository? why did they take it off?
[06:32] <DarthFrog> !find tacplus
[06:36] <lunch> DarthFrog, i don't know why they decided to take it off. the old version of buntu had it
[06:36] <DarthFrog> lunch: I have no idea.
[06:44] <frybye> Hi - which video- capture applications are available - (in this case to use with eeepc for sending video <web->mails)
[06:44] <frybye> sorry i am in wrong channel with this.. forget pse..
[06:46] <wildzu> Hello, can some one help me ? I'm trying to install Kde4.1 t Hardy, but I get error while unpacking /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-window-manager_4%3a4.1.0-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa3_i386.deb
[06:47] <flaccid> wildzu: wrong channel see topic
[06:47] <wildzu> oh...sorry
[07:07] <TeXNiK> hi all =)
[07:10] <chipbuddy> so here's my idea. I recently found my college laptop that i had back in 2001. it's a pretty weak system. i want to bring it back to life, but i really don't want to do much with it. mainly side programming projects, and sometimes burn cds. But it doesn't have a cd burner. How difficult will it be to replace the cd drive with one that can do what i want?
[07:11] <flaccid> chipbuddy: thats a hardware question, you should see about that elseware if you can easily get a new optical drive for it. you can also use an external one via usb or firewire as an option
[07:12] <chipbuddy> yeah, i realize it's not a kubuntu question. but i like coming here for general questions because everyone is nice, and there aren't a whole mess of people all talking
[07:13] <flaccid> yeah thats pretty much the situation and good luck
[07:15] <casandro> Servus (=bavarian for hello and goodbye)
[07:15] <abwhostw> hi
[07:16] <abwhostw> when I finish
[07:16] <abwhostw> Change the Directory directive, replace <Directory /var/www/> to <Directory /home/user/public_html/>
[07:16] <flaccid> !ops
[07:16] <abwhostw> the and do everything
[07:16] <jussi01> flaccid: ?
[07:16] <aaronwi> chipbuddy: if the drive is detachable you should be able to find a similar one to put in it, try looking on newegg.com
[07:17] <casandro> I have a little problem, I'm upgrading from 7.10 to 8.04 and it hangs at "Generating locales" according to ps a gzip process is defunct. I cannot kill neither the gzip process nor the localedef one. What can I do?
[07:17] <abwhostw> when I write the localhost
[07:17] <chipbuddy> aaronwi: i'm pretty sure i won't be able to detach it without unscrewing some screws
[07:17] <abwhostw> still I get it
[07:17] <abwhostw> Not Found
[07:17] <abwhostw> The requested URL / was not found on this server.
[07:17] <abwhostw> Apache/2.2.8 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.2.4-2ubuntu5.3 with Suhosin-Patch Server at <IP_ADDRESS> Port 80
[07:17] <nalioth> flaccid, what's up?
[07:17] <aaronwi> whats the make and model
[07:17] <abwhostw> why  and I create index.html on pulic_html
[07:17] <flaccid> nalioth: abwhostw has broken rules 3 days in row
[07:17] <aaronwi> chipbuddy: whats the make and model?
[07:18] <chipbuddy> sony vaio pcg-f540 (wow... is it sad i have that memorized?). i can't remember when it was purchased... it's at least 7 years old
[07:19] <abwhostw> uh
[07:21] <abwhostw> sudo: /etc/sudoers is owned by gid 1002, should be 0 the major problem
[07:24] <casandro> I have a little problem, I'm upgrading from 7.10 to 8.04 and it hangs at "Generating locales" according to ps a gzip process is defunct. I cannot kill neither the gzip process nor the localedef one. What can I do?
[07:27] <chipbuddy> casandro: this does not really address your question, but i've had major issues with 8.04. in the end i just went back to 7.10, and it's been much nicer to me
[07:28] <casandro> chipbuddy: Thanks, but I'm already running 8.04 on several machines without problems, and I really need a newer kernel but don't want to compile myself.
[07:28] <abwhostw> sudo: /etc/sudoers is owned by gid 1002, should be 0  anyone know how to help me in this situatuin
[07:29] <flaccid> abwhostw: do not repeat.
[07:29] <mr---t-> this is not the channel for that
[07:29] <abwhostw> k
[07:29] <flaccid> abwhostw: do you promise to be nice and listen tonight?
[07:29] <abwhostw> yeah
[07:29] <abwhostw> ok I will be nice
[07:29] <flaccid> abwhostw: can you still actually use sudo ?
[07:30] <abwhostw> when I fix the hostname I get problem now with sudo I don't know why
[07:30] <abwhostw> no I can't used
[07:31] <flaccid> abwhostw: try this and let us know the error if any: sudo chown root /etc/sudoers
[07:31] <casandro> abwhostw: Can't you just boot into single user mode by attaching /usr/bash as a kernel parameter and then juch chmod it?
[07:32] <flaccid> thats what abwhostw will have to do if root (su) is not yet enabled
[07:32] <concernedcitizen> man, I'm starting to love konq
[07:32]  * mr---t- thinks english is not his first language
[07:32] <abwhostw> ok the sudo chown root /etc/sudoers when I type I get the same error
[07:33] <flaccid> abwhostw: now run this command and let us know what it says: file /etc/sudoers
[07:33] <flaccid> oops. i meant ls -l /etc/sudoers
[07:33] <weedar> I have a laptop and want it to switch from the internal monitor to an external one (higher resolution) when I plugin the docking-station - is this possible?
[07:33] <abwhostw> I get it this
[07:33] <abwhostw> -r--r----- 1 root root 470 2008-08-10 21:15 /etc/sudoers
[07:34] <flaccid> abwhostw: it worked, so you shouldn't get the error anymore
[07:34] <weedar> Currently I run TwinView w/cloning (nvidia-chipset) but the resolution on my external monitor is a bit low when done like this
[07:34] <abwhostw> but the error is still
[07:35] <abwhostw> " is owned by gid 1002, should be 0"
[07:35] <flaccid> ok. abwhostw what does this commmand say:  grep -i root /etc/passwd
[07:35] <abwhostw> 0 it mean I have be a root yeah
[07:35] <flaccid> 0 should be root yes
[07:36] <abwhostw> root:x:0:1002:root:/root:/bin/bash that said
[07:37] <flaccid> abwhostw: you changed the uid of root it seems
[07:37] <flaccid> do you remember doing that
[07:37] <abwhostw> no
[07:38] <flaccid> abwhostw: grep 1002 /etc/passwd please
[07:38] <abwhostw> root:x:0:1002:root:/root:/bin/bash
[07:39] <mr---t-> tell me he didn't type please
[07:39] <abwhostw> i did
[07:39] <flaccid> abwhostw: run this: kdesudo kate /etc/passwd  then find the line with root in it and change 1002 to 0 then exit and save
[07:40] <abwhostw> /etc/passwd:root:x:0:1002:root:/root:/bin/bash
[07:40] <abwhostw> grep: please: No such file or directory
[07:40] <flaccid> hehe
[07:40] <abwhostw> I can't do the last cmd
[07:40] <abwhostw> cuz I have to install sudo apt-get install kdesudo
[07:41] <flaccid> abwhostw: use kdesu instead then
[07:41]  * mr---t- scratches head
[07:41] <flaccid> or install kdesudo which should already be installed. but from memory you are a gnome person, so you can use gksu
[07:43] <abwhostw> gksu is not working
[07:44] <flaccid> abwhostw: always say what the error is or we can't help
[07:44] <abwhostw> the error the file is not opening
[07:44] <abwhostw> I type like that Cmd gksu kate /etc/passwd
[07:45] <flaccid> what is the exact error, literally as it says
[07:46] <abwhostw> u said
[07:46] <abwhostw> un this: kdesudo kate /etc/passwd  then find the line with root in it and change 1002 to 0 then exit and save
[07:47] <flaccid> maybe you don't have kate.  i mean at the end of the day you are using ubuntu and not kubuntu, so here really isn't the place for help, #ubuntu is, however mabye you will have luck with: gksu gedit /etc/passwd
[07:48] <abwhostw> gksu gedit /etc/passwd this cmd is not working
[07:50] <faileas> hmm
[07:51] <faileas> what's the advantge of kdesudo over sudo anyway?
[07:51] <flaccid> sudo is not for gui apps
[07:51] <flaccid> abwhostw: can't help if you dont' say why..
[07:51] <abwhostw> ok
[08:03] <LanceMartin> I am having trouble getting my modem to dial phone numbers from Knontact
[08:04] <flaccid> abwhostw: put the command in the console and paste the error here if less than 4 lines, its that simple..
[08:04] <mase_work> LanceMartin: does it dial numbers ok from kppp or minicom :
[08:04] <mase_work> ?
[08:05] <LanceMartin> Mase_work yes the modem is working perfectly.
[08:06] <LanceMartin> Mase_work All I want to do is dial a number from a database like kontact or open office database.
[08:07] <LanceMartin> Mase_work Kontact says it can be done but it gives no clue as to how.
[08:10] <mase_work> LanceMartin: ok , you might have better luck in #kontact
[08:10] <mase_work> they might know how . let me know if you find out, i would be curious also
[08:12] <LanceMartin> Thank you Mase_work
[08:20] <tom_> hi all
[08:20] <tom_> не могу сцуко лиску настроить
[08:20] <tom_> кто нить может помочь?
[08:21] <faileas> ~ru
[08:21] <faileas> erm
[08:21] <faileas> !ru
[08:29] <abwhostw> #ubuntu
[08:40] <crazy_bus> is it possible for a web camera to not list under lsusb, or does it mean it's broken if it doesn't?
[09:10] <crazy_bus> it seems to does recognize it and dmesg has info about gspca sn9c102: V4L2 driver for SN9C1xx PC....... it still doesn't work though
[09:23] <another_david> I'm having trouble playing DVDs. Anyone knowlegable about that sort of thing?
[09:26] <flaccid> !dvd | another_david
[09:27] <another_david> I've got libdvdcss2. I think the problem has to do with automounting. I can create an iso, mount that, and play it. I just can't play a "real" DVD.
[09:28] <another_david> anyone? stumped the 'bot?
[09:41] <concernedcitizen> why is it that there isn't any image editors that comes with kubuntu?
[09:46] <emilsedgh> concernedcitizen: krita?
[09:47] <thefish> concernedcitizen: there are a few - just do an apt search
[09:47] <Falstaff> I am still trying to dial a telephone number with my modem ...
[09:49] <emilsedgh> Falstaff: what is your modem?
[09:50] <concernedcitizen> !cedega
[09:51] <Falstaff> Emilsdgh I have an external modem set up on /dev/ttyS0 it works well
[09:52] <emilsedgh> Falstaff: yeah, external modems work nice on linx, but internals have some serious problems.
[09:54] <Falstaff> Emilsdgh I decided to use an external after spending a night fighting with the internal ... I have it dialing okay I just want to be able to dial from Konect or Open Office ...
[09:57] <Falstaff> Emilsedgh I can't believe it is this hard to just dial out ... I made it work there should be a program that just does it ... put in the phone number and it dials ... it sounds simple to me.
[09:58] <emilsedgh> Falstaff: you have to dial using kppp
[10:02] <Falstaff> Emilsedgh Kppp works for a few numbers but I want to use it from inside my database program like open office or Konect ...
[10:02] <emilsedgh> Falstaff: i cannot understand what you want to do
[10:04] <Falstaff> I want to be in konect and access a phone number ... and dial it (if I had to cut and paste that would be okay) Konect says it can be done (like for the faxes) but it give no clue as to how to do it
[10:06] <Falstaff> That program name is kontact not konect (ooops).
[10:09] <frojnd> hello there
[10:09] <emilsedgh> i dont know Falstaff, sorry :)
[10:10] <Falstaff> Is there a scripting channel here somewhere?
[10:10] <Falstaff> thanks anyway emilsedgh
[10:11] <emilsedgh> maybe #bash ?
[10:16] <frojnd> I need to program in c++ what package do I need to install?
[10:17] <flaccid> !build-essential
[10:17] <amerigo> !games
[10:17] <flaccid> thats the easiest to install what you need to compile. and you can use anything to text edit
[10:18] <gem2501> !update
[10:18] <gem2501> hi, btw :)
[10:19] <gem2501> can somebody tell me how to get a list of packages version-upgraded in the one before last update? (not upgrade!)
[10:23] <frojnd> Is there any good editor for programming in c++ ? I know in KDE is kate, where is implemented terminal, so u don't need extra terminal
[10:24] <flaccid> um, eclipse maybe?
[10:24] <flaccid> thats an ide but
[10:24] <Tecmi> or albastra
[10:35] <laptop> 947731o
[10:45] <amerigo> hello there
[10:45] <amerigo> i'm looking for a new pointer for vegastrike
[10:46] <amerigo> anybody can helpme?
[10:53] <HAL9000> Does anyone know how much space swap partions takes up  I told it to be 2gigs but its 1,951,888 kbs
[10:54] <gnumm> HAL9000: it's ok
[10:54] <core_> help me
[10:54] <core_> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:54] <core_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?????
[10:55] <gnumm> core_: close synaptic, adept or any app which works with the package management
[10:55] <lenea> hey all. i've jost got a wacom graphics tablet. how do i set it up?
[10:55] <HAL9000> If it crashed just look for it in the processes and kill its pid
[10:56] <core_> for kubuntu4.05 no ? why...
[10:56] <Matty> hi
[10:58] <lenea> hey all. i've jost got a wacom graphics tablet. how do i set it up?
[11:02] <Quest_> how to open .rmvb file?
[11:04] <lenea> Quest_ : use real player
[11:04] <Quest_> lenea thats for windows?
[11:05] <lenea> Quest_ : it's for all OS
[11:05] <Quest_> ok
[11:05] <lenea> Quest_ : http://www.real.com/linux
[11:05] <Quest_> thx
[11:05] <lenea> np
[11:15] <lenea> can anyone tell me how to open kate as root?
[11:15] <turtlez> kdesu kate
[11:15] <flaccid> !sudo | lenea
[11:16] <lenea> kdesu kate doesn't work
[11:16] <lenea> "Command not found!"
[11:16] <turtlez> is kdesu installed?
[11:16] <turtlez> sudo apt-get install kdesu
[11:17] <lenea> it's already installed
[11:18] <lenea> kdesu konq
[11:18] <lenea> whoops
[11:18] <turtlez> try: sudo apt-get install kdesudo
[11:18] <lenea> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[11:19] <lenea> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:20] <turtlez> Not sure lenea, I'm a bit of a newbie. And: kdesudo kate doesn't work?
[11:20] <lenea> no
[11:20] <draknn> Hello, i have a problem with my fans. i am running 8.04, up to date, and my fans stay running always
[11:21] <lenea> isn't there a way to log as root from within kate?
[11:21] <flaccid> if you enable root then yes
[11:22] <lenea> how do i do that?
[11:22] <flaccid> set a passwd for root. all this is probably detailed in the intial link
[11:23] <lenea> i've always used kdesu kate. but now that i've installed kubuntu 8.04 I don't understand why that doesn't work
[11:24] <turtlez> lenea: 'dpkg -l kdesudo' ?
[11:24] <draknn>  Hello, i have a problem with my fans. i am running 8.04, up to date, and my fans stay running always
[11:25] <lenea> turtlez : ii  kdesudo        2.5.1-0ubuntu3 sudo frontend for KDE
[11:28] <turtlez> lenea: kate is installed right? :P 'kdesu kate' works fine for me...
[11:28] <lenea> turtlez : if i just type kate, without root, it opens it : so it must be installed
[11:29] <lenea> turtlez : nvm. i managed with "sudo kate". thanks for the help though
[11:30] <turtlez> lenea: np. I was just about to suggest it, but sudo isn't recommended for graphical applications. gl though
[11:31] <lenea> turtlez : well at least it works
[11:31] <turtlez> lenea: very true :)
[11:36] <Matty> hi
[11:41] <Quest_> is there a way to erase data from ram while system is runing?
[11:42] <ysis> Hi. I'm running KDE 3.5.9 on Ubuntu Hardy Hadron and have a problem with the Run Command Dialog (Alt+F2). When I try to start Firefox through the dialog, the "Application is loading" symbol in the taskbar shows up, but in the end, the application won't start. On the other hand: If I type "firefox" in konsole it starts just fine.
[11:43] <ForgeAus> was KDE originally designed to be based on CDE?
[11:45] <Quest_> is there a way to erase data from ram while system is runing?
[11:47] <lenea> i followed a tutorial un the ubuntu forums to install my wacom graphics tablet. but when i rebooted my computer, now my X won't start. any ideas?
[11:48] <lenea> could it be the fact that i edited my /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[11:50] <lenea> how do i edit a document from within terminal(text-based)?
[11:51] <flaccid> lenea: pico
[11:51] <flaccid> !texteditors
[11:51] <flaccid> hmm
[11:51] <turtlez> lenea: or vim
[11:51] <flaccid> there is a factoid on all of them i think. i use joe myself
[11:52] <flaccid> ForgeAus: negative
[11:52] <flaccid> ysis: thats sounds like a bug because it should be pretty much the same. you could submit a bug for it
[11:53] <turtlez> what's a nice ftp client? any built in with kde?
[11:53] <flaccid> turtlez: konq or dolph is ok. i use krusader and some people use kftpgrabber
[11:54] <ysis> flaccid: Where is the right place for that? Is it more likely to be a KDE or Kubuntu problem? (I'm quite inexperienced in the Linux community.)
[11:54] <turtlez> flaccid: cheers, I'll try 'em out :)
[11:54] <flaccid> !bugs | ysis
[11:54] <flaccid> turtlez: sweet as
[11:55] <ForgeAus> turtlez you can use konqueror for ftp and probably dolphin
[11:55] <ForgeAus> you could even get mc and  use midnight commander in a konsole to do it :)
[11:55] <ForgeAus> !ftp
[11:55] <flaccid> ah thats the factoid. krusader kills them all! :p
[11:55] <ForgeAus> Kasablanka? hehe interesting
[11:55] <turtlez> ForgeAus: thanks Forge. I was after recommendations too though ;) cheers
[11:55] <ForgeAus> good point krusader rocks! I forgot about that one
[11:55] <ysis> flaccid: Thanks. I'll do that.
[11:56] <flaccid> its like my little mate i use every day :O
[11:56] <ForgeAus> krusader is much like a gui version of midnight commander anyway :)
[11:56] <flaccid> is mc a qt app ?
[11:56] <ForgeAus> no
[11:57] <ForgeAus> mc is a console (possibly curses) app
[11:57] <ForgeAus> you don't need a wm to use it at all
[11:57] <flaccid> ah thats right. there is some gui version as well
[11:57] <flaccid> *something* commander or something its called
[11:57] <ForgeAus> (ie works in textmode, non-x)
[11:57] <ForgeAus> uh theres gnome-commander
[11:57] <ForgeAus> but thats GTK
[11:57] <flaccid> maybe thats what im thinking off
[11:57] <ForgeAus> krusader is the qt/kde equiv
[11:58] <Githzerai> bcm or somesthing....
[11:58] <flaccid> i'll always suggest a gui app (pref. kde/qt) before terminal/other tk in kubuntu desktop os chan ;)
[11:58] <ForgeAus> so essentially krusader = mc for qt :)
[11:58] <ForgeAus> (well possibly KDE not just qt??)
[11:58] <masteredu> AHHHH
[11:58] <masteredu> KUBUNTU IS SO COOL XD
[11:58] <ForgeAus> I agree flaccid :)
[11:59] <flaccid> yeah anyway krusader is tha bomb :O
[11:59] <ForgeAus> even Qtparted is pretty good :)...
[12:00] <masteredu> where you from people
[12:00] <masteredu> and what time is by you? :D
[12:00] <ForgeAus> Australia of course :)
[12:00] <ForgeAus> (here? its around 9pm or so
[12:00] <khaije1> flaccid: how is it different from dual-pane konqueror?
[12:00] <ForgeAus> GMT +10 (or during daylight savings +11)
[12:01] <ForgeAus> although daylight savings I think is opposite US which means difference of 2 or something hrs per change, gets confuzing
[12:01] <flaccid> khaije1: more functions, less stuffing around
[12:02] <flaccid> im in syds, ForgeAus...
[12:02] <arpharazon> hello
[12:02] <flaccid> wherz u
[12:02] <flaccid> sorry i did a bad grammar there
[12:02] <arpharazon> where can I find and edit the list of the stuff that runs on startup?
[12:02] <flaccid> arpharazon: there are many, what are you trying to achieve
[12:02] <ForgeAus> 2 pane konq is diff, different views (ie krusader is generally alwys in a detail view rather than basically icons although that can be changed in konq)
[12:02] <ForgeAus> its also built in archiving
[12:02] <djp> hello @ all.. anybody knows about apache and php file uploads?
[12:02] <ForgeAus> its also got a terminal line down the bottom
[12:03] <faileas> djp: a little
[12:03] <ForgeAus> its also well... just handy all over :)
[12:03] <faileas> what's the issue?
[12:03] <ForgeAus> I think theres even a menu option to run as root
[12:03] <ForgeAus> (instead of having to exit and rerun the app with a kdesu or something)
[12:03] <ForgeAus> (although essentially I think thats what it does automatically for you if you choose that)
[12:04] <arpharazon> flaccid: (heh, nice nick) I tried to get rid of katapult and install launchy instead, but Launchy gives me an error on startup saying the hotkeys are in use. Since the dialog says "Launchy <2>"...
[12:04] <amerigo> hello buddies
[12:04] <flaccid> arpharazon: what am i meant to do?
[12:04] <ed__> heloo wonder anyone can help me..installed Debian on my laptop but it did not detect my wirelss
[12:04] <ed__> any idea?
[12:04] <amerigo> anybody can help me with "vegastrike" the games??
[12:04] <ForgeAus> I wish AWN wasn't so gnome-centric :(
[12:04] <djp> faileas: :-) .. i set the upload dir in php.ini, chmodded the upload dir to 777, but the upload failes print_r says: Array ( [name] => export_20080812.csv [type] => text/csv [tmp_name] => /var/www/upload/phpY3ZCI0 [error] => 0 [size] => 385063 ) .. i dnot know where to search
[12:05] <arpharazon> flaccid: Unless you're familiar with Launchy, telling where to find the startup programs list would be perfcetly fine.
[12:05] <flaccid> djp: this is not #php but rather kubuntu support which is desktop OS
[12:05] <flaccid> arpharazon: like i said there are many in linux/unix
[12:05] <arpharazon> flaccid: Er... How many?
[12:05] <djp> ok, thanks @ flaccid
[12:06] <flaccid> arpharazon: i dont know off the top of my head
[12:06] <faileas> o0
[12:06] <arpharazon> flaccid: That's not good.
[12:06] <faileas> djp: thats a little beyond what i know ;p
[12:06] <faileas> erf
[12:07] <flaccid> there is rc.local and services and a few others and a couple with X and a couple with X users depending on their DE ..
[12:07] <flaccid> its a lot better to advise what you are trying to achieve instead of thinking things are simple like that in linux
[12:07] <faileas> i got a AVI, and subs for it in IDX and sub formats. i want to hardsub it so i can upload it to a PMP. any idea on what software i can use?
[12:07] <djp> thank you @ faileas .. beyond my knowledge also :-s ;-)
[12:08] <arpharazon> flaccid: But you know, in windows you can check msconfig, and if it autstarts it's probably. There's no way to get a list of what is starting in kubuntu?
[12:08] <flaccid> arpharazon: linux is not windows.
[12:08] <arpharazon> *probably there
[12:08] <faileas> arpharazon: i thought it just opens whatever was open the last time you cleanly shutdown
[12:08] <flaccid> arpharazon: what are you trying to achieve/know ?
[12:09] <arpharazon> flaccid: I know, I know... Like I said I need a list of what launches when I turn on my laptop. Or a list of most of it, if that's how it works.
[12:11] <flaccid> arpharazon: there is no list.
[12:12] <arpharazon> flaccid: Are there any diagnostic programs that try to log what is running at boot up?
[12:12] <flaccid> nope
[12:12] <arpharazon> flaccid: erm...
[12:12] <flaccid> the two things you first need to look at is 1. services and 2. runlevels
[12:12] <arpharazon> flaccid: what are runlevels and where do I look at those things
[12:12] <flaccid> then there is the user level
[12:13] <flaccid> im not the right person to give info on runlevels sorry
[12:13] <flaccid> services can be looked at in system settings however
[12:13] <flaccid> and there is also google and the wiki for all of this. im sorry i can't help further
[12:13] <flaccid> someone else might be able to..
[12:15] <arpharazon> ok
[12:15] <arpharazon> I'll see what I can find
[12:17] <core_> Only one software management tool is allowed to run at the same time
[12:17] <core_> Please close the other application e.g. 'Update Manager', 'aptitude' or 'Synaptic' first. ??????
[12:17] <Githzerai> arpharazon: Sysettings - advanced - services or something like that..
[12:17] <bazhang> core_, close the others and try again
[12:17] <core_> now commmand terminal ?
[12:18] <bazhang> core_, close adept and others first
[12:18] <lenea> anyone using graphics tablet?
[12:19] <core_> yes again problem
[12:19] <bazhang> !tablet
[12:19] <bazhang> core_, which others do you have open
[12:19] <bazhang> !wacom
[12:19] <flaccid> i think its called 'system services'
[12:23] <arpharazon> Githzerai: I don't care about the services
[12:24] <arpharazon> Githzerai: I want to know why two instances of my app are run at start up and not one
[12:24] <flaccid> arpharazon: ah some info on why finally..
[12:24] <flaccid> what is your app?
[12:24] <arpharazon> flaccid: But... But... I told you in my first reply!
[12:24] <arpharazon> flaccid: Launchy!
[12:25] <flaccid> you didn't say it was being lauched twice
[12:25] <flaccid> what is Launchy ?
[12:25] <lenea> what's a good virtual machine software?
[12:25] <flaccid> !virtualisation | lenea
[12:25] <faileas> er
[12:25] <faileas> launchy is a windows app isn't it?
[12:26] <arpharazon> flaccid: It's like katapult. Launchy.org
[12:26] <arpharazon> faileas: There's a package for it in adept
[12:27] <arpharazon> flaccid: I just figured out it's launching twice. That was my initial suspicion, I thought I made that clear... Oh well. So how do I make it run once?
[12:28] <flaccid> i'll check it out
[12:28] <arpharazon> flaccid: Ok, I'll see what happens when I reinstall while you do
[12:28] <arpharazon> flaccid:  see you later
[12:28] <flaccid> where and how did you install it?
[12:28] <flaccid> ah well
[12:29] <Githzerai> arpharazon: There was something similar to services, similar name I mean there, exactly for configuring what u need. I'm on KDE4 for a long time now, and just can't remember. I'll check it out...
[12:29] <flaccid> have a look at http://launchy.org/ its um pathetic
[12:29] <faileas> flaccid: some people like it ;p
[12:29] <flaccid> since launchy is not kubuntu supported, is 3rd party and has bad support, who knows what the problem is...
[12:30] <flaccid> !find launchy
[12:30] <FabParma> Please, how can I see which KDE version I am using? Thanx
[12:31] <flaccid> FabParma: in konsole kicker --vesion
[12:31] <FabParma> flaccid: thank You
[12:31] <flaccid> i mean kicker --version (or goto help | about in any kdeapp)
[12:31] <flaccid> np
[12:34] <FabParma> flaccid: just for informatinon  "it is kiker -v"
[12:35] <mok0> Huh? I just upgraded to 4.1 but now my kmail settings, address book etc. are not found.
[12:35] <flaccid> FabParma: are you non english? because kiker is not on my system
[12:35] <flaccid> mok0: wrong chan, please see topic
[12:36] <FabParma> Yes, I have italian eviroment
[12:36] <mok0> I thought this was the kubuntu channel :-)
[12:36] <flaccid> i guess that is why
[12:36] <flaccid> this is an english chanell :)
[12:36] <flaccid> mok0: kde3 is current for kubuntu (see topic)
[12:36] <FabParma> this its the only channel for Kubuntu :-)
[12:36] <Githzerai> mok0: #kubuntu-kde4 BTW, kde4 uses sparate config folder .kde4 instead of /kde3 ;)
[12:37] <flaccid> FabParma: quite a few other chans actually see /list
[12:38] <flaccid> !it
[12:39] <mok0> Githzerai:  Ah, now I understand. I used to use 4.0, but the version of kontact was still kde3
[12:40] <abby87> !fr
[12:40] <Githzerai> mok0: yes, but if u installed kontact-kde4. It's as if u have two different apps, no matter the name. Config transfer scripts can be found on net. ;)
[12:41] <faileas> gaaahhh
[12:41] <faileas> anyone familair with avidemux?
[12:41] <mok0> Githzerai: ok, thanks. Will look for them...
[12:41] <FabParma> Thanks flaccid, anyway I think that I will stay in this channel because it is defintelly more rich of informations
[12:42] <flaccid> well you can have two apps on 1 system. 1 in the kde4 dir and one in the /usr/bin for kde3 or whatever as per ubuntu packaging
[12:42] <flaccid> okies
[12:42] <flaccid> ie. run command: which kontact (to see what is in path)
[12:42] <flaccid> it will probably return /usr/bin/kontact which is kde3 until intrepid..
[12:46] <FabParma> Yesterday I downloaded Kubuntu 8.04, I made a clean install. On the Kubuntu site says that was with KDE 4.1 Now i checked my KDE version and its: KDE: 3.5.9   Qt: 3.3.8b. Have I made some mistake during the install or the version 4.1 it is optional?
[12:48] <flaccid> FabParma: what was the filename of the .iso you downloaded?
[12:49] <flaccid> regardless i don't belive kde 4.1 install is available by iso until intrepid
[12:49] <FabParma> kubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-i386.iso
[12:50] <flaccid> i believe that is kde3, which is a good thing because kde 4.0x is out of date now
[12:50] <Githzerai> FabParma: You have remix cd, but it comes with 4.0.3, 4.1 needs to be installed with ppa repo, no other way...
[12:50] <ForgeAus> unless you write your own 4.1 cd from the installer .deb's
[12:50] <flaccid> yep thats the way
[12:53] <FabParma> Githzerai: thanks. The best way to install 4.1 it via apt or others?
[12:53] <Githzerai> FabParma: as any other. ;) check kubuntu.org anouncements for more info ;)
[12:54] <flaccid> well yes via apt
[12:54] <flaccid> as per the topic.. KDE 4.1 released! http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1
[13:09] <concernedcitizen> just to check is the edge flipping thing only for compiz or is it by default in kubuntu
[13:10] <flaccid> !compiz-fusion | concernedcitizen
[13:10] <concernedcitizen> err I know.
[13:10] <flaccid> compiz and kwin are totally different window managers
[13:10] <concernedcitizen> I'm asking if that effect is part of kubuntu
[13:10] <flaccid> compiz has not much to do with kde..
[13:11] <flaccid> there are no effects in kde3/kubuntu ..
[13:11] <concernedcitizen> because the strange this is, I'm running on kWin, but the compiz process is running
[13:11] <FabParma> I would like to run the Kde wizard that appeared at first user access. In this version of Kubuntu I am unable to find it. Can you help me?  Thanks
[13:11] <concernedcitizen> but I still have the effect
[13:11] <flaccid> concernedcitizen: only 1 window manager can be active on the display and that window manager might need configuring if it has compiz efffects..
[13:13] <concernedcitizen> I've killed the compiz processes and I can still edge flip
[13:13] <Githzerai> concernedcitizen: maybe u have kde-window-decorator running with compiz, so it appears as if u are using kwin. Run kwin --replace
[13:13] <FabParma> I would like to decrease the enviromant effects/animations. How to reconfigure KDE?
[13:14] <concernedcitizen> Githzerai, I don't have it running with compiz, cos on fusion icon i've set it to kWin, but anyway I've did the kwin --replace for good measure.
[13:14] <flaccid> FabParma: its one or the other. kde/kwin is configured in system settings | appearance or ccsm for compiz
[13:14] <concernedcitizen> this is weird. lemme try removing all the compiz packages.
[13:14] <flaccid> FabParma: let me find the binary for the wizard
[13:15] <flaccid> FabParma: kpersonalizer
[13:15] <FabParma> flaccid: thanks, very gentle
[13:16] <ghostcube> hi
[13:16] <ghostcube> compiz 0.7.6 available for hardy in ppa repo
[13:16] <ghostcube> if anyone wanted to test :)
[13:17] <FabParma> flaccid: was not installed by defaul. I just installed it via apt. Thank again ps: it is exacly what i was looking for :-)
[13:17] <flaccid> FabParma: so all good ?
[13:18] <Githzerai> ghostcube: I'm using 0.7.7 ;)
[13:18] <FabParma> goooood
[13:18] <ghostcube> sure but this is git imho :D
[13:18] <flaccid> cool
[13:18] <ghostcube> 0.7.6 is for the ones not wanting to compile the new cube plugin
[13:18] <ghostcube> :)
[13:19] <Githzerai> ghostcube: repo :) http://download.tuxfamily.org/
[13:19] <flaccid> this chan is not for compiz
[13:19] <ghostcube> 0.7.7 ?
[13:19] <concernedcitizen> yeah weird as hell
[13:19] <Githzerai> ghostcube: yap
[13:20] <concernedcitizen> everything's uninstalled, no compiz, no fusion icon
[13:20] <ghostcube> Githzerai: trevi ?
[13:20] <flaccid> help and support for compiz* is in #compiz-fusion
[13:20] <Githzerai> ghostcube: It's a debian repo, though, but works perfectly ;)
[13:20] <lenea> does anyone know how to switch graphics tablet settings?(from mouse mode to point on tablet = point on desktop - mode)
[13:20] <ghostcube> hmmm ok i dont support cf here i only told u the 0.7.6 branch is out guys :) to test idf anyone wants it
[13:21] <concernedcitizen> flaccid: ain't looking for support for compiz.
[13:21] <flaccid> read the factoid or its off-topic
[13:24] <concernedcitizen> flaccid: why is it that networkmanager takes up 10% of my RAM (2GB)
[13:24] <flaccid> how would i know?
[13:25] <mariana> hello
[13:25] <mariana> como estan???+
[13:26] <ghostcube> flaccid: more userfriendly behaviour would help a bit
[13:26] <ghostcube> dont u think so ?
[13:26] <ghostcube> but never the less back to #cf ;)
[13:32] <jimmy51_home> hello, will an ubuntu user installing kubuntu-desktop also install the kde apps? (kate, konqueror, etc)
[13:35] <lenea> jimmy51_home : i think so, not sure though
[13:35] <flaccid_> jimmy51_home: yep both of those
[13:36] <jimmy51_home> thanks
[13:47] <concernedcitizen> !ksplash
[13:49]  * concernedcitizen foldarms
[13:49] <flaccid_> what are you trying to do?
[13:49] <flaccid_> concernedcitizen: there is system settings -> splash screen
[13:50] <BluesKaj> howdy folks
[13:53] <concernedcitizen> flaccid_:  that's what I've thought so (at least according to the manual), but I can't find it under my settings. Under the "Look & Feel" panel.
[13:55] <n3ksus> Hi, im wondering if any1 can tell me if Ubuntu has stopped my aMSN from working, I done some updates about 1-2 weeks ago and aMSN decides not to work, and trying a clean install dont help
[13:59] <ForgeAus> :( someone needs to write an AWN-KDE! its way to gnome-centric :(
[14:00] <flaccid_> i don't even know what that means
[14:01] <concernedcitizen> :(
[14:02] <concernedcitizen> can't find the splash screen option
[14:03] <n3ksus> Hi, im wondering if any1 can tell me if Ubuntu has stopped my aMSN from working, I done some updates about 1-2 weeks ago and aMSN decides not to work, and trying a clean install dont help
[14:09] <kalib> Hi guys... I wanna multiply two values... what's wrong?
[14:09] <kalib> echo "Seu valor em reais fica: $(($dolar * $valor)) "
[14:17] <ForgeAus> is there going to be a way in intrepid to keep kde3.5.9?
[14:18] <ForgeAus> not that I'm anti kde4 I'm just pro kde3.5.9 as default hehe
[14:21] <BluesKaj> ForgeAus, afaik kde4 will be the default :(
[14:40] <lenea> hey i've got a problem . i accidentally pressed a key combination. ctrl+alt+chift+pg up/pg down..my computer rebooted but now my taskbar is gone, so is the kmenu
[14:41] <lenea> any ideas?
[14:42] <ForgeAus> run kicker
[14:42] <ForgeAus> ie rightlick desktop run command, kicker
[14:42] <lenea> there is no such thing
[14:43] <ForgeAus> unless you've installed compiz or something like that (you might need to edit you xorg.conf to enable composite = 1)
[14:43] <ForgeAus> no such thing as what?
[14:43] <ForgeAus> kicker is the taskbar for kde
[14:43] <lenea> it won't run it
[14:43] <BluesKaj> lenea, alt+F2
[14:43] <lenea> yes, i know how to run commands
[14:43] <ForgeAus> (or if your kde4 its part of plasma called kickoff or something like that)
[14:44] <ForgeAus> whats IT?
[14:44] <lenea> yes, i am KDE4
[14:44] <ForgeAus> ok go to either #KDE they might be able to help you there
[14:44] <lenea> ok thanks
[14:45] <ForgeAus> or #kubuntu-kde4
[14:48] <TZander> hi, is there a cmake 2.6 backport for 08-04 ?
[14:53] <ForgeAus> wow I managed to help lenea! somehow!
[14:53] <core_> Reading package lists... Done
[14:53] <core_> core@core:~$ kgksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:53] <ForgeAus> hehe that stuff's slightly outo f my depth
[14:53] <core_> bash: kgksu: command not found
[14:53] <core_> core@core:~$ kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[14:53] <core_> sudo: kate: command not found
[14:53] <core_> core@core:~$
[14:53] <core_> ?
[14:53] <core_> why ?
[14:54] <Hamra> !pastebin | core_
[14:54] <ForgeAus> whats kgksu?
[14:54] <ForgeAus> you mean kdesu ?
[14:54] <ForgeAus> (or kdesudo)
[14:54] <ForgeAus> you don't have kate?
[14:54] <Hamra> he meant gksu
[14:54] <Hamra> try kwrite
[14:55] <ForgeAus> if you don't have kate you probably don't have kde
[14:55] <ForgeAus> at last not all of it
[14:55] <ForgeAus> erm at least (if I can spell it)
[14:55] <Hamra> but isn't kate part of kubuntu-desktop
[14:55] <core_> yes ...close window but why ?
[14:55] <Hamra> ?
[14:56] <ForgeAus> I think, from memory gksu is kdesu's gtk counterpart for gnome
[14:56] <Hamra> core_: are you in a graphical environment or in a terminal?
[14:56] <ForgeAus> yes kate is part of kubuntu-dekstop
[14:56] <ForgeAus> also part of kde-core I think
[14:57] <ForgeAus> try gksu gedit maybe
[14:57] <ForgeAus> if you have ubuntu (not kubuntu) that should work
[14:57] <ForgeAus> the kdesu command was working but you don't seem to have kate
[14:58] <ForgeAus> (kate is basically a fancy kwrite, if your lucky you might have kwrite)
[14:58] <ForgeAus> if not sudo apt-get kate
[14:58] <ForgeAus> (or better yet sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop)
[14:59] <Hamra> core_ : you still here?
[14:59]  * ForgeAus shrugs
[15:03] <Hamra> i remember the alternate install cd once asked me if i want separate /home /usr etc.. partitions or a single root part. it's not asking me now, it just go ahead and suggest one root partition, how do i let it ask this?
[15:03] <Hamra> other than choosing manual partitioning
[15:15] <Sivam> Yamakiri
[15:15] <Sivam> hi
[15:15] <Sivam> I would like to configure sendmail in my ubuntu machine
[15:15] <Sivam> can any one help me
[15:17] <Hamra> sivam: you want to configure your email client?
[15:19] <Sivam> Hamra, I want to configure my email server
[15:19] <Sivam> for sending outgoing emails
[15:21] <Hamra> i'm afraid i don't know about email servers
[15:30] <FabParma> I have a curiosity probabilly OT.  Why the 90% of distributions use Gnome as default? I used Gnome and Kde over years and imho KDE it is absolutly the best. Is someone able to explain to me why these distros use gnome?
[15:32] <mok0> FabParma: no...
[15:33] <BluesKaj> FabParma, some ppl like gnome , beleive it or not they prefer it cuz it doesn't have the "windows look"
[15:34] <mok0> BluesKaj: Neither does KDE imho
[15:35] <FabParma> BluesKaj: incredible...
[15:36] <faileas> BluesKaj: it looks more like apple OS 9 ;p
[15:36] <mok0> FabParma: Unfortunately, in Ubuntu, gnome looks better because it's getting all the attention of the developers
[15:37] <m__> hello
[15:38] <chris_> I have problems installing amsn on kubuntu. I have made ./configure and make deb but I get this message:
[15:38] <chris_> mkdir -p ./distrib/DEB
[15:38] <chris_> sed "s/#VERSION#/0.97.2-1/" debian/changelog.in > debian/changelog
[15:38] <chris_> sed "s/#TCL_VERSION#/8.4/" debian/control.in > debian/control.tmp
[15:38] <chris_> sed "s/#TK_VERSION#/8.4/" debian/control.tmp > debian/control
[15:38] <chris_> rm debian/control.tmp
[15:38] <chris_> fakeroot debian/rules clean
[15:38] <chris_> make: fakeroot: Command not found
[15:38] <chris_> make: *** [deb] Error 127
[15:38] <chris_> could anyone help me?
[15:39] <faileas> chris_: why not use the package? also, next time use pastebin
[15:39] <mok0> chris_: apt-get install fakeroot
[15:39] <faileas> i think you might be missing the package 'fakeroot'
[15:41] <chris_> do I have to do make deb again after downloaded fakeroot?
[15:41] <mok0> chris_: you also need to install all the packages named in the "Depends" field of debian/control
[15:41] <mok0> chris_: yes
[15:44] <chris_> please help me again... these are the final messages after the make deb
[15:44] <chris_> dh_builddeb --destdir="./distrib/DEB" --filename="amsn_0.97.2-1.deb"
[15:44] <chris_> dpkg-deb: costruisco il pacchetto `amsn' in `./distrib/DEB/amsn_0.97.2-1.deb'.
[15:44] <chris_> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/chris/amsn-0.97.2'
[15:44] <chris_> rm -f debian/changelog
[15:44] <chris_> rm -f debian/control
[15:44] <chris_> rm -rf debian/amsn
[15:45] <amerigo> !games
[15:46] <pouf> good afternoon
[15:57] <turtlez> When I run kate from terminal, I get version 3.1.0 using KDE 4.1.0. When I run kdesu kate from terminal I get 2.5.9 using KDE 3.5.9. I want it to run the newer version when I use kdesu kate, how do I change this?
[15:58] <turtlez> dpkg -l kate shows: ii  kate               4:3.5.9-0ubuntu7.3 advanced text editor for KDE
[16:15] <patrick__> Hello
[16:16] <patrick__> Anybody know to configure handbrakecli with gui
[17:04] <thefish> any suggestions for something that can rotate a video? (taken on mobile phone at 90^)
[17:06] <White_Pelican> does anyone here know where I can get some help with HAL and DBUS?
[17:08] <corey> #ubuntu
[17:12] <Guest53452> hey guys, i'm having an issue connecting my box running kubuntu up to my plasma TV using standard VGA cables, i'm hoping theres something i could do with xorg.conf or something before i buy another video card, does anyone know anything about this?
[17:22] <garethfn> hi, how can i make small text be none-antialiased?
[17:25] <poon> I'd hate to repeat myself, but i'm afraid i disconnected and wasn't able to see any responses to my question, assuming there was one.  the issue was: I've got a kubuntu box i'm trying to connect to my plasma tv via VGA cable.  its just a server box, so it's got a very basic integrated video card
[17:26] <poon> my question was: could it possibly be an xorg.conf issue?  or will i need to purchase a new video card
[17:29] <jabba-> POON
[17:31] <pgib> Hmm... Why is adept so dumb?  If I search for "dejavu" I don't see any results.  But I can do apt-get install ttf-dejavu-extra
[17:31] <pgib> this haapens with just about every package..
[17:32] <ethan> :/ i've never liked adept, never had that issue, but i never liked it.
[17:32] <pgib> how can I search for stuff with apt-get then?
[17:32] <pgib> I don't always know the exact package name
[17:32] <moj0rising> pgib: try sudo apt-cache search
[17:32] <pgib> mmkway thanks  (coming from another distro, just trying to get some work done)
[17:33] <moj0rising> pgib: I'm sure you can also grep out from there.
[17:33] <moj0rising> np
[17:33] <pgib> that listing is good enough - too bad Adept isn't too good. I'll have to install synaptic or something on my brother's computer when I move him over to kubuntu/KDE4
[17:34] <pgib> or teach him some command line :)
[17:35] <zorglu_> q. i would like to set the numlock on login/boot. whedre should i look ?
[17:35] <White_Pelican> to be honest, I've never had problems with Adept
[17:35] <White_Pelican> but I prefer the command line ;)
[17:36] <ethan> its a beautiful place
[17:37] <MPat> wtf? Am I stupid? (probably)
[17:37] <MPat> sudo konqueror
[17:37] <MPat> sudo: konqueror: command not found
[17:37] <White_Pelican> why do you need to sdo konqueror?
[17:38] <MPat> konqueror exists for sure, same with dolphin. sudo userconfig works
[17:38] <moj0rising> MPat: Can you run konqueror form the command line without sudo?
[17:38] <MPat> yes
[17:38] <moj0rising> weird
[17:38] <MPat> yes :)
[17:38] <moj0rising> Works for me...
[17:39] <moj0rising> ..maybe you need to add konqueror's path to the search path environment variable for root's profile??
[17:39] <moj0rising> just taking a wild guess there. sorry.
[17:39] <MPat> i try
[17:40] <chao1> Hello. Has anyone here used cfdisk?
[17:41] <ForgeAus> if I had a choice I'd rather not chao
[17:41]  * chao1 needs help.
[17:41] <ForgeAus> (if you can do it by qtparted I'd recommend it at least you get to see what your doing)
[17:41] <ForgeAus> chich one was cfdisk again?
[17:41] <ForgeAus> erm which
[17:41] <MPat> moj0rising, it helped
[17:47] <chao1> cfdisk is a cli program that is able to rewrite the partition table. But I just found out about it last nite. I need to know if I were to use and I know the exact cylinders and heads if it will work. I had someone tell me to run it last nite and it didn't work. But they didn't have me put in the number of heads and cylinders. I did a man on it and saw that you can do that. I need to know if that would make a difference.
[17:48] <deitarion> My brother's Kubuntu system fails to log in, immediately looping back to the KDM login screen. Is this a known problem?
[17:49] <deitarion> As far as I can tell, it just started happening sometime within the last 36 hours... possibly as a result of an update.
[17:51] <chao1> deitarion: try hitting CTRL ALT F1 and login to the terminal. If that works do 'sudo apt-get remove kdm' and then 'sudo apt-get install kdm'
[17:51] <DreadKnight> deitarion: you could press ... erm..
[17:51] <chao1> that should fix the problem
[17:51] <DreadKnight> that's that i was going to say xD
[17:51] <DreadKnight> or, you can try doing aditional updates
[17:52] <DreadKnight> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:52] <chao1> ?? thats the same thing
[17:52] <DreadKnight> and restart, see if it works out then
[17:52] <chao1> cfdisk is a cli program that is able to rewrite the partition table. But I just found out about it last nite. I need to know if I were to use and I know the exact cylinders and heads if it will work. I had someone tell me to run it last nite and it didn't work. But they didn't have me put in the number of heads and cylinders. I did a man on it and saw that you can do that. I need to know if that would make a difference.
[17:52] <DreadKnight> hmm
[17:52] <DreadKnight> maybe he uses kdm-kde4 :P
[17:54] <deitarion> Oh, I forgot to mention. I also tried shutting down KDM and running startkde from the console. It didn't work but (because I'm half-asleep) I forgot to check the messages.
[17:55] <deitarion> Just so you know, I am familiar with console operations. I'm just not familiar with non-Gentoo distros.
[17:57] <deitarion> Give me a sec to try reinstalling kdm... but I do have one question. Is startkde normally broken on Kubuntu or does the kdm package somehow affect it? (on Gentoo, kdm has no effect on startkde)
[17:59] <eagles0513875> could i get support for ubuntu server on here or do i need to head to ubuntu channel
[17:59] <amerigo> # vegastrike
[18:00] <amerigo> #vegastrike
[18:00] <eagles0513875> ?
[18:02] <chao1> sure go ahead eagles
[18:03] <phoenixz> is it possible to control a windows vista machine remotely graphically from Linux? maybe with VLC?
[18:04] <moj0rising> sure. you can so that with VNC
[18:04] <eagles0513875> i just installed ubuntu server on virtual box and for some reason after install when booting im getting a weird error message it says something about my cpu code 0:6. it seems like there is a bug with the kernel or virtualbox
[18:04] <moj0rising> phoenixz: Just go to www.tightvnc.com
[18:04] <moj0rising> phoenixz:  download the windows server version
[18:04] <moj0rising> install that on your windows box
[18:04] <moj0rising> use krdc to connect to the windows machine
[18:05] <eagles0513875> thats how im connected to my linux box
[18:05] <abby87> how do i install extra screensavers for kde 4.1 ? (on kubuntu) is there any extra package available?
[18:05] <eagles0513875> using logmein to remotly connect to my windows box then vnced into mylinux box
[18:05] <moj0rising> ahen you run krdc type :/vnc ipaddress for the windows box
[18:05] <eagles0513875> u can also set it to where anyone can log in if they know ip but they need to know a password
[18:06] <eagles0513875> thats how i have this
[18:06] <moj0rising> then, I mean.
[18:06] <phoenixz> moj0rising: thanks!
[18:06] <moj0rising> abby87: Not sure but you might be able to find something via Adept
[18:06] <moj0rising> no sweats!
[18:06] <eagles0513875> moj0rising: take a look under sharing in system settings cuz when u vnc that way from another machine it automatically opens krdc
[18:07] <moj0rising> yeah. I've used the desktop sharing here and there. It's pretty nice
[18:07] <moj0rising> it does use vnc
[18:07] <moj0rising> abby87: you can also try kdelook.org
[18:07] <eagles0513875> anyone able to help me with my ubuntu server on virtualbox issue
[18:07] <moj0rising> they might have some screen savers
[18:07] <eagles0513875>  i just installed ubuntu server on virtual box and for some reason after install when booting im getting a weird error message it says something about my cpu code 0:6. it seems like there is a bug with the kernel or virtualbox
[18:07] <moj0rising> i can take a crack at it
[18:08] <moj0rising> what CPU do you have on the host machine?
[18:08] <moj0rising> what is the exact error?
[18:08] <eagles0513875> athlon 64 3200+
[18:08] <eagles0513875> thats the excact error cpu code 0:6 says pleas make sure u r using the right kernel
[18:08] <deitarion> Never mind. Somehow, he managed to use up every last byte of free space on his computer. Something that was blatantly obvious as soon as I tried `startkde 2>&1 | less`
[18:08] <eagles0513875> i tried 64bit version of ubuntu server and 32bit and both same issue
[18:08] <abby87> moj0rising: i found them at kde-look.org but dont know how to install em
[18:09] <moj0rising> hm. maybe google to see if there are any issues with vb and that cpu.
[18:09] <eagles0513875> i have ventos running just fine
[18:09] <eagles0513875> *centos
[18:09] <abby87> moj0rising: none on adept
[18:10] <moj0rising> also maybe you can pass some arguments to the machine at the grub menu that will help it fire up right
[18:10] <moj0rising> try recovery mode.
[18:10] <moj0rising> sorry i don't know more on that one.
[18:10] <moj0rising> abby87: the files you want to install, do the names end in tar.gz?
[18:10] <eagles0513875> tried revocery mode same error
[18:10] <moj0rising> bummer. I'd totally google that processor with virtualbox and check the vb forums
[18:11] <moj0rising> maybe try a live cd from a diferent distrio
[18:11] <moj0rising> distro
[18:11] <eagles0513875> im goignt o recreate the virtual machine maybe the virtual drive isnt big enough
[18:11] <moj0rising> see if it loads up
[18:11] <eagles0513875> im using the iso's to install the vm
[18:11] <moj0rising> heck, even install one.
[18:11] <moj0rising> eagles0513875: okay. that shouldn't mattter.
[18:12] <casdf> hello; i'm having a problem getting the KDE desktop effects to work. namely, checking "enable desktop effects" doesnt seem to do anything.
[18:12] <moj0rising> casdf: do you have the proprietary drivers loaded for your video card?
[18:12] <casdf> moj0rising: i believe so
[18:12] <shadowhywind> hay all i am trying to tar a folder, but i do not want it to include the parent folder, i just want it to tar everything inside (if that makes any sense) any ideas?
[18:13] <moj0rising> verify, using the gui restricted drivers tool.
[18:13] <casdf> i just installed kubuntu, and the first thing that appeared on the desktop was 'you should install blah blah nonfree drivers for optimal blah'
[18:13] <PhilRod> shadowhywind: "tar cf foo.tar *" ?
[18:13] <casdf> moj0rising: whats the command for that tool?
[18:13] <bertrand> tar -C the_directory
[18:14] <moj0rising> you can see if they are installed and loaded by clicking k > System > Hardware Drivers
[18:14] <rockprincess> anyone with ipod knowledge here?!!!?! please help me!
[18:14] <casdf> nvidia accelerated graphics driver (latest cards) enabled is checked, but status says not in use
[18:14] <eagles0513875> rockprincess: need more details about youe issue and if someone knows they will answer please be patient
[18:14] <moj0rising> to create an archive try tar -cvzf archivename targetdirectoryorfile
[18:14] <casdf> rockprincess: i had used my ipod on ubuntu hardy heron, and it worked out of the box
[18:15] <casdf> rockprincess: but that was with rhythmbox i think
[18:15] <eagles0513875> moj0rising: isnt there also zip to zip files
[18:15] <moj0rising> sure is.
[18:15] <bertrand> tar -cvzf archivename -C parent_directory_to_begin_from
[18:15] <rockprincess> casdf: my problem is i cannot mount my ipod, because it doesnt show up on media:/ .... it's brand-new, i've just bought it....do i need to format it first?!
[18:15] <moj0rising> if you are compressing files to put on a windows box.
[18:15] <moj0rising> that's a good option
[18:15] <moj0rising> try zip --help
[18:16] <shadowhywind> thanks i got it
[18:16] <moj0rising> I'm quite sure the syntax is the same but verify.
[18:16] <casdf> rockprincess: hmm, that may be possible. do you have access to a win or mac box to run the ipod software first?
[18:16] <shadowhywind> i wasn't deleteing the tar, just overwriting it.. which it didn't like it, started from scratch and things are working. Thanks again
[18:16] <rockprincess> casdf: when i connect it, it says "do not disconnect....bla, for 30 seconds, and then it automatically disconnects by itself"
[18:16] <moj0rising> rockprincess: try fdisk -l after plugging the ipod in to see if the ssytem detects it
[18:17] <rockprincess> casdf: i have an old windows, might be able to install itunes on there....
[18:17] <moj0rising> All righty. I've gotta get back to work. Good luck everyone.
[18:17] <abby87> rockprincess:have u checked ur usb slots if they are working properly ?
[18:17] <abby87> rockprincess: same prob i had 1st
[18:17] <rockprincess> moj0rising: i've tried that already.....fdisk only lists the mounted devices :(
[18:17] <rockprincess> abby87: good idea actually :)
[18:18] <casdf> rockprincess: i don't really mean itunes; theres some ipod command program that comes with the ipod, or off apple.com
[18:18] <moj0rising> uh. should list them even if they aren't. seems like your system is not detecting the ipod
[18:18] <casdf> rockprincess: which is in charge of formatting the drive and updating firmware etc.
[18:18] <moj0rising> try different usb ports (you probably already did that)/
[18:18] <abby87> rockprincess: it should get detected... if not at /media mebbe at /mnt .. goto amarok > Settings >Config Amarok > Autodetect devices
[18:18] <rockprincess> casdf: cool, i need to look on the apple website then
[18:19] <casdf> moj0rising: yeah, so the proprietary drivers are saying 'status: not in use'. what to do from there?
[18:19] <moj0rising> casdf: simply tick the check box
[18:19] <casdf> moj0rising: it is
[18:19] <moj0rising> okay.
[18:19] <moj0rising> and then close the window
[18:19] <casdf> yeah
[18:19] <moj0rising> come back to the window
[18:20] <moj0rising> is it still ticked? what is the status then?
[18:20] <abby87> rockprincess: a good fallback plan wud be using itunes ...
[18:20] <moj0rising> rockprincess: maybe also try a different usb cable
[18:20] <casdf> now it says in use :| odd
[18:21] <moj0rising> taking a guess that your pc is not detecting the ipod
[18:21] <rockprincess> abby87:  ok amarok cannot recognize the ipod.....well autodetect doesnt work :( and i cant see anything on media:/ , /media/ or /mnt/ either....uhhh thats no good sign is it?! :(
[18:21] <abby87> moj0rising: afaik apple charges heavily for new usb cables
[18:22] <rockprincess> moj0rising: exactly...that is my exactly problem, my computer doesnt even recognise it, because when i plug the cable into my ipod, it says "do not disconnect for 5 seconds" and then it automatically disconnects the ipod
[18:22] <abby87> rockprincess: wic model of ipod r u having? do 1 thing sync with itunes 1st then go 4 amarok
[18:23] <abby87> rockprincess: does it get recognized on windows?
[18:23] <moj0rising> rockprincess: cool. well I would next try different ports
[18:24] <moj0rising> make sure you're not using a usb hub or anything like that
[18:24] <moj0rising> go straight into the pc
[18:24] <moj0rising> abby87: don't buy usb cables from apple!
[18:24] <rockprincess> moj0rising: fucking hell, the ipod doesnt seem to like my usb hub.....i've just removed the usb cable from the hub and connected it DIRECTLY to the pc....now it works...bhahahahaha
[18:24] <moj0rising> just get them from a generic store somewhere.   :)
[18:25] <moj0rising> You're welcome.  ;)
[18:25] <kismber> hi
[18:25] <kismber> is here anyone ho has got any idea about why does not want to work a lexmark1380 printer on the ubuntu OS?
[18:25] <casdf> moj0rising: well, its 'in use' now, but still desktop effects dont come up
[18:25] <moj0rising> hm. nvidia video card, I bet?
[18:25] <abby87> moj0rising: no actually if u buy an ipod an usb cable is shopped with it :)  but buying an extra 1 is not generally afordable ...
[18:26] <casdf> yup
[18:26] <casdf> 7600
[18:26] <rockprincess> moj0rising: this problem has cost me now 1 hour of searching through the web....brilliant!
[18:26] <moj0rising> abby87: if you go to a computer/ electronics store and get a genereic usb cable with the proper plugs..
[18:26] <rockprincess> thanks to ALL of you!!! thanks so much for your support :))))))))))))))
[18:26] <moj0rising> ...that should work with the opod and not cost more than a few bucks.
[18:26] <moj0rising> less than 10
[18:26] <moj0rising> rockprincess: Glad I could help!
[18:26] <abby87> rockprincess: but does it work now ?
[18:27] <moj0rising> Gotta roll, everyone. see ya later.
[18:27] <l3x> hi, i have a problem: i have an extremly stupid roommate :) the other part of the problem is that I want to make a network share, but in that way that he can ONLY download files from my hard drive, not to open then from my hdd. is there a waY__ he is a complete noob and uses M$ window$ (plaese help me he is sooo anoying)
[18:27] <casdf> doh lol ok
[18:28] <moj0rising> sorry, casdf. i actually have the same issue
[18:28] <rockprincess> abby87: hmm i can see the ipod on ipod:/ and /media/IPOD ..... but amarok does seem to have a problem with autodecting it :(
[18:28] <moj0rising> effects don't work wellfor me on my nvidia laptop
[18:28] <casdf> moj0rising: i see
[18:28] <casdf> moj0rising: well thanks anyways
[18:28] <moj0rising> I just gave up because I
[18:28] <moj0rising> 'm not worried about it
[18:28] <moj0rising> np. check the ubuntuforums.org
[18:29] <moj0rising> lots of people have run into this, I'm sure. someone will definitely be able to help you work it out
[18:29] <l3x> can someone help me?
[18:29] <aaronwi> l3x: samba is your friend
[18:29] <rockprincess> abby87: i've now manually added the pod in amarok, and now it does seem to work.....ahhh what a relief :) thought the ipod was faulty haha
[18:29] <abby87> l3x: i hope u r not using windows and using kubuntu
[18:29] <zack1403> hey all, what do i use in kde4 to connect to wireless?
[18:29] <moj0rising> take it easy, guys and gals.
[18:29] <l3x> aaronwi: i know, but then he can play from my hdd, i do not want that
[18:29] <l3x> abby87: i use kubuntu only
[18:29] <aaronwi> you have to edit the script file
[18:30] <abby87> rockprincess: i remember my ipod 1st time...my front usb slots were faulty and i got  so scared
[18:30] <l3x> what to do?
[18:31] <l3x> i know how to create samba share, i do not know what to edit so he cannot play, only download. i want it to be like this: the noob clicks, and then save as dialog appears :)
[18:31] <rockprincess> abby87: haha, how long did it take you to find out it was the usb slots? i don't get why the ipod doesnt like my usb hub though, i've borrowed an ipod touch just a few days ago to see if ipods actually work on linux the way i imagined them to work, and i plugged the ipod nano in and it immediately worked out of the box....
[18:32] <abby87> l3x: wait i'll look up something
[18:32] <abby87> rockprincess: well congrats with ur ipod ! enjoy ! :)
[18:32] <abby87> l3x: ok so u need to change the permissions to read only i guess
[18:32] <aaronwi> l3x: try looking here http://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Main_Page
[18:33] <l3x> aaronwi: abby87: thank you guys, u probably saved me my exam next week (i will pass now thanx 2 u)
[18:33] <l3x> but noo to read only
[18:33] <zack1403> can anyone tell me what i use for wireless management in kde4?
[18:33] <kapiszon> Could someone help me how to mount on kubuntu fat32 partition?
[18:34] <l3x> i want him to save it on his computer, and he is a jerk who does not want to do that, so he can annoy me
[18:34] <l3x> i want to stop him
[18:34] <abby87> rockprincess: around 2 dayz !!!
[18:34] <abby87> l3x: good luck 4 ur exams ! :)
[18:34] <l3x> abby87: thanx a lot!
[18:34] <l3x> i will be beack here to contribute as i did before the exams :)
[18:34] <l3x> back*
[18:35] <kapiszon> Please i am begiiner at Linux and it is hard to do somethink on this system I have changed it via many things it is safer than win etc.
[18:36] <rockprincess> abby87: you're the greatest :) thanks for all your help!
[18:37] <kapiszon> is there someone who can help me this this stuff?
[18:37] <kapiszon> Please.
[18:37] <casdf> kapiszon: whats your question?
[18:37] <casdf> what do you wish to mount?
[18:37] <abby87> rockprincess: c'mon its nothing ... cheers !