[00:18] <octacian> Does anyone know if Unity3D still works on Linux? I get Service Not Available when I try to sign in
[00:23] <deadgrub> when I upgraded my ubuntu system last night, grub crashed halfway, and now when I boot I just get grub>
[00:23] <deadgrub> I've tried various things I found on the interwebs, but so far I've not made any progress
[00:24] <nacc> deadgrub: i would probably boot into a live USB and 'fix' the install that crashed
[00:24] <al_nz1> ok, so I booted live USB, deleted the secondary disk that had my home folder, formatted it as ext4 and rebooted. Now when I try to login it flashes some text and I am back to login screen. I can however login as guest.
[00:24] <deadgrub> I booted off the install cd and chrooted into the system and successfully reran dpkg --configure -a and it finished fine
[00:24] <deadgrub> but still grub>
[00:24] <nacc> deadgrub: ah :)
[00:24] <al_nz1> do I just need to create /media/home
[00:24] <trism> octacian: still works, that was a bug in one of the older versions, what version do you have?
[00:24] <deadgrub> it's particularly frustrating as I have 8 machines like this, all headless, and I upgraded all of them using fabric
[00:24] <nacc> al_nz1: does the user you are trying to login as not have a $HOME any longer?
[00:24] <deadgrub> and they all died identically
[00:25] <nacc> deadgrub: what version of ubuntu?
[00:25] <deadgrub> 16.04
[00:25] <al_nz1> nacc: no - nobody has a /home anymore
[00:25] <OerHeks> hold shift @ boot, choose recovery, login and run dpkg-reconfigure -a and update again
[00:25] <deadgrub> nacc: this looks very similar to what I saw: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2330915
[00:25] <al_nz1> OerHeks: that @ me?
[00:25] <deadgrub> but that didn't work
[00:26] <deadgrub> how many lines can I paste?
[00:26] <nacc> !paste | deadgrub: use a pastebin for any multiline posts
[00:26] <OerHeks> al_nz1, no, for deadgrub
[00:26] <al_nz1> OerHeks: ahh soz
[00:27] <deadgrub> http://paste.ubuntu.com/19976577/
[00:27] <deadgrub> is the last lines
[00:27] <nacc> al_nz1: what does it 'flash'? can you login on tty1 (ctrl + alt + f1)?
[00:27] <nacc> deadgrub: and it just hangs there
[00:27] <nacc> deadgrub: ?
[00:27] <al_nz1> nacc: I am logged in as guest, can terminal from there and su root
[00:27] <deadgrub> they all crashed at that point, and all are grub> now
[00:27] <deadgrub> on one machine I did the dpkg configure -a and it finished
[00:28] <deadgrub> but no change
[00:28] <nacc> al_nz1: that's not the same
[00:28] <deadgrub> I have not yet tried boot-repair, mentioned in that article
[00:28] <deadgrub> but it's not on the livecd
[00:28] <deadgrub> it appears to be some ppa
[00:28] <deadgrub> is it worth trying?
[00:29] <deadgrub> is there any guide to debugging grub brokenness?
[00:29] <deadgrub> (for example, I don't know whether grub is even looking in the right place for the config)
[00:29] <Eli-5dce> deadgrub - just asking i haven't seen your whole chat... Is your grub broken?
[00:29] <al_nz1> nacc: the background to all of this is I setup my OS disk as a SSD, and then followed a guide to move /home to a seperate disk - this was fine. I still have "old home" on the ssd. (there was virtually no data in my /home directory and Im the only user), but then I realised the secondary disk for "data" was NTFS formatted. I have since booted a live CD and formatted the normal disk as ext4, but
[00:29] <al_nz1> now need to rsync the old home with the new disk and make sure the OS knows where its home is etc
[00:30] <octacian> trism: I have 5.1.0f3
[00:30] <deadgrub> Eli-5dce: well it's not working.  I don't know whether grub itself is broken, or the configuration part
[00:31] <trism> octacian: yeah that's really old, there are newer builds here: https://community.unity.com/t5/Linux-Editor/Unity-on-Linux-Release-Notes-and-Known-Issues/m-p/2323665#U2323665
[00:31] <deadgrub> I can type commands into the grub> prompt
[00:31] <Eli-5dce> deadgrub: can you not boot into your system?
[00:31] <deadgrub> and even boot some random kernel
[00:31] <nacc> deadgrub: you *can* boot from the grub prompt?
[00:31] <deadgrub> grub does not bring up the menu, just a prompt
[00:31] <al_nz1> nacc: yes I can login from CLI after CTRL-ALT-F1 - it complains that I have no /home and uses HOME=/ instead
[00:31] <al_nz1> nacc: I then get a terminal prompt
[00:31] <nacc> al_nz1: right, so you should, as root, fix that
[00:31] <nacc> al_nz1: probably ...
[00:31] <deadgrub> I can start a kernel with linux /vmlinuz \n boot
[00:32] <deadgrub> but it doesn't have all the other stuff like initrd and root
[00:32] <deadgrub> so it gives up
[00:32] <al_nz1> nacc: ok - and how would I do that?
[00:32] <nacc> deadgrub: right, so it's probably not seeing your configuration file, which might mean it's not seeing /boot
[00:32] <deadgrub> boot is part of /
[00:32] <deadgrub> not a separate partition I mean
[00:33] <nacc> sure, i just mean it's not seeing the disks
[00:33] <deadgrub> but how would it boot /vmlinuz in that case?
[00:33] <deadgrub> or is that separate
[00:33] <nacc> deadgrub: hrm, good point :)
[00:33] <deadgrub> it does have (hd0) etc
[00:33] <nacc> deadgrub: ok, can you ls (hd0),/boot ?
[00:33] <nacc> [iirc, that's the syntax]
[00:34] <deadgrub> interestingly, it wouldn't let me before, something about secure mode not allowing ls.ko
[00:34] <Eli-5dce> deadgrub: have you ever tried reinstall? or booting into ubuntu-live and install boot-repair and do reccomended settings?
[00:34] <nacc> deadgrub: grub has tab-complete
[00:34] <deadgrub> so I switched to old fashioned boot, and ls works
[00:34] <nacc> deadgrub: yeah, i think it's a secure boto issue
[00:34] <deadgrub> secure boto (/me goes web searching)
[00:34] <nacc> deadgrub: the grub update you're referring to, i think is from LP: #1574727
[00:34] <nacc> deadgrub: sorry, "secure boot" (typo)
[00:35] <deadgrub> ah ok
[00:35] <deadgrub> not the aws python wrapper then
[00:35] <nacc> deadgrub: :) sorry about that
[00:35] <deadgrub> no problem
[00:36] <deadgrub> ok, so perhaps I could go back a version on grub?
[00:36] <deadgrub> just looking, 1 machine of the six reliably booted
[00:36] <deadgrub> how interesting
[00:36] <nacc> deadgrub: hrm, strange...
[00:36] <nacc> deadgrub: i would think they'd all be the same, if identical
[00:37] <deadgrub> indeed
[00:37] <deadgrub> http://paste.ubuntu.com/19977769/
[00:37] <deadgrub> is from that machine
[00:38] <deadgrub> is that the same grub that is broken?
[00:38] <deadgrub> looks like it
[00:38] <deadgrub> so for some reason 1 of 6 identical machines didn't break
[00:39] <deadgrub> these are intel braswell machines, if that is useful
[00:39] <nacc> !info grub-efi-amd64-bin xenial
[00:39] <nacc> yeah that's the latest version (from updates) in 16.04
[00:39] <deadgrub> curious
[00:39] <nacc> deadgrub: i assume you have console logs?
[00:39] <nacc> deadgrub: did they all upgrade with the same output, etc?
[00:39] <deadgrub> I don't suppose I could just dd the bootsector or something
[00:40] <deadgrub> all identical, but 5 hung on that line I pasted earlier
[00:40] <deadgrub> the last continued to completion
[00:40] <deadgrub> and when I used livecd to chroot in, I could complete that machine, though it still doesn't boot
[00:42] <rafael> com
[00:42] <nacc> deadgrub: i'm assuming you didn't make any other changes, they were all using secure boot already (BIOS setting, usually), etc?
[00:42] <TylerHoffman>  Any free VPNs that does nto rquire subscription
[00:43] <deadgrub> I believe so, though it's easy for slight divergence to occur (e.g. upgrade timing)
[00:43] <deadgrub> I have to assume that they are subtly different at this point
[00:43] <deadgrub> although they all have the same software installed
[00:43] <octacian> trism: thanks. I'll take a  look. I'm looking for open source game engines. But can't find anything good for both 2D and 3D.
[00:44] <orlock> octacian: iD open sourced some of theirs i think?
[00:44] <Eli-5dce> TylerHoffman : Nope, unless you have a miracle that you can make ur own... You're just out of luck
[00:44] <deadgrub> btw, is this the best channel for this?
[00:44] <octacian> orlock: can you give me the website?
[00:45] <Eli-5dce> deadgrub: if you have any issues mostly with ubuntu and it'
[00:45] <orlock> i dont know what it is
[00:45] <orlock> but.. you know iD, right?
[00:45] <octacian> orlock: no. I don't
[00:45] <Eli-5dce> deadgrub
[00:45] <deadgrub> octacian: what do you mean by game engire for 2d and 3d btw?
[00:46] <orlock> octacian: responsible for advancing PC gaming more than any other company with the exception maybe of Valve
[00:46] <Eli-5dce> woah
[00:47] <Zgan> hello any one know how to control fan speed on ubuntu
[00:47] <deadgrub> Zgan: do you mean to set the speed once, or set the policy?
[00:47] <Zgan> set the speed
[00:48] <nacc> deadgrub: when you said the grub install crashed, what did you mean earlier? the hang from the forums post? or did `apt` say an error occurred?
[00:49] <deadgrub> Zgan: may I ask why you want to set it?  it should normally be under automatic feedback control
[00:49] <deadgrub> nacc: the hang
[00:49] <Eli-5dce> :/
[00:50] <nico_> hola
[00:50] <deadgrub> so initially I pushed a full-upgrade out, and 5/6 machines hung on that line Installing for x86_64-efi platform.
[00:50] <nacc> deadgrub: ok, just checking
[00:50] <deadgrub> the remaining machine came back happily
[00:51] <deadgrub> I then livecd'd a dead (grub> prompt) machine and finished the dpkg --configure -a manually, but that didn't fix the problem
[00:51] <orlock> octacian: https://github.com/id-Software
[00:51] <deadgrub> Zgan: setting it manually risks ruining your cpu
[00:51] <nacc> deadgrub: after you did that (dpkg --configure -a chroot'd), did you run another `apt update; apt upgrade` for good measure?
[00:52] <deadgrub> I did not
[00:52] <orlock> octacian: That what you were after?
[00:52] <nacc> deadgrub: ok, could you try that?
[00:52] <Eli-5dce> ۞
[00:52] <OerHeks> and update-grub perhaps?
[00:52] <deadgrub> partly because I had unplugged the network :)
[00:52] <nacc> OerHeks: good call
[00:52] <deadgrub> but I will go and try that now
[00:52] <nacc> deadgrub: as OerHeks said, also maybe `update-grub` at the end, for good measure
[00:52] <deadgrub> I will.  be back in a while - it's super tedious with all the manual mounting stuffs
[00:53] <nacc> deadgrub: sure
[00:53] <irregular> Hi guys, how do I find out what kind of desktop (?) I'm using, i.e. if I am using kde or gnome?
[00:53] <nacc> deadgrub: the other thing to check on is `update-secureboot-policy --enable`
[00:53] <nacc> deadgrub: which should ensure that secureboot is on in your stack (with a nice little debconf UI)
[00:54] <nacc> deadgrub: (might need to not pas --enable to get the prompt)
[00:55] <sarkis> hey all - how can i see if some package is stuck in a bad state? so the behavior im seeing is that apt-get upgrade <some package> wants to install / restart other packages that have *nothing* to do with package being upgraded
[00:55] <orlock> blame systemd
[00:55] <sarkis> my only guess is they are stuck in a half installed state so apt-get retries every run?
[00:55] <sarkis> seeing this behavior on 14.04
[00:56] <octacian> orlock: thanks. I'll consider. Prob gonna go for Unity3D though.. I already have SOME experience there
[00:59] <nacc> sarkis: before you do the upgrade (note upgrading one specific package is not really something you usually need to do), does `apt-get -f install` want to finish something?
[00:59] <nacc> sarkis: in fact, i don't think upgrade takes any parameters :)
[01:00] <nacc> sarkis: it's just upgrading them all
[01:00] <sarkis> lol that might be the problem
[01:00] <nacc> sarkis: read `man apt-get` :)
[01:00] <sarkis> it should be apt-get install <package-name>
[01:01] <nacc> sarkis: yes, that would just install the one package (and any deps); if there are leftover unfinished installations/configurations, those will get rerun (and can be run before the new pacage install with `apt-get -f install`, usually)
[01:01] <sarkis> can i see what its going to run ... scared to run apt-get -f install on production
[01:01] <sarkis> will it prompt?
[01:02] <nacc> sarkis: it should always prompt to confirm iirc
[01:02] <nacc> sarkis: `apt-get -f install` means to fix it
[01:03] <nacc> sarkis: it should only do something if you've got broken packages already
[01:03] <deadgrub> ok, 64 new packages...
[01:03] <nacc> sarkis: which ... you should never have in production, because you should have already tested this in dev :)
[01:03] <deadgrub> is there a way to force apt to reinstall everything grub related?
[01:03] <nacc> deadgrub: you could try `apt-get reinstall grub*`
[01:03] <deadgrub> update-secureboot-policy, ok thanks
[01:04] <deadgrub> nacc: doesn't that only reinstall the virtual package
[01:05] <deadgrub> why is update-initrd so slow, and why does it have to run a zillion times?
[01:05] <deadgrub> ok, apt update && apt full-upgrade complete
[01:08] <deadgrub> update-secureboot says not DKMS pacackes, so doing nothing
[01:08] <effectnet> hello
[01:09] <effectnet> i am clicking things and it's grabbing it instead of clicking it.  i have tried two mice now.  what is happening?
[01:09] <deadgrub> effectnet there's an accessibility thing that turns that on and off, perhaps in mouse settings?
[01:10] <minimec> irregular: how comes you don't know what window manager you are running? I would look for some processes like 'pidof gnome-settings-daemon' for gnome3 or 'pidof unity-settings-daemon' for unity. I never tried KDE, but there is probably some 'pidof kde-<TAB>' process or 'pidof qt5-<TAB>' process running for KDE.
[01:10] <effectnet> k thx ill check
[01:11] <deadgrub> effectnet: sorry, I can't find it here, but I remember it was something like click ones to drag, twice to click
[01:11] <deadgrub> for people with trouble with coordination
[01:12] <snfgf> I'm getting error
[01:12] <snfgf> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "libgcrypt11:i386"
[01:12] <snfgf> I have 'dpkg --add-architecture i386'
[01:13] <deadgrub> nacc: OerHeks: ok, update-grubbed, it seems to have done things.  Is there anything else I should do before rebooting again?  is there something like install-mbr?
[01:13] <snfgf> I am using 64 bit pc
[01:13] <minimec> irregular: or simply logout and choose the installed window manager you want.
[01:13] <deadgrub> snfgf: something like libruntime32?
[01:14] <deadgrub> sudo apt-get install ia32-libs maybe?
[01:14] <snfgf> wouldn't that install too many?
[01:14] <snfgf> I specifically need libgcrypt11:i386
[01:15] <deadgrub> I recall that there is some special glue library that enables 32bit libraries on 64bit machines
[01:15] <deadgrub> I'm sorry I can't be more precise, but that might be what you need
[01:16] <octacian> What language do apps for Ubuntu use?
[01:16] <deadgrub> octacian: all the languages
[01:16] <snfgf> I think I have that. I have installed other 32 bit libraries successfully. But this one it can't find. I am using Debian btw.
[01:16] <snfgf> #debian won't let me speak
[01:16] <snfgf> :s
[01:16] <octacian> deadgrub: what's the most common?
[01:16] <SchrodingersScat> !debian
[01:17] <deadgrub> snfgf: ok, I don't know anything more, sorry
[01:17] <salamanderrake> deadgrub: Ancient Arimaic or Coptic
[01:17] <Bashing-om> irregular: What returns ' echo $DESKTOP_SESSION " " $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ' ?
[01:17] <pitiye> guys i have java 9 installed and i get the following error
[01:17] <pitiye> Please ensure JAVA_HOME points to JDK rather than JRE.
[01:17] <deadgrub> octacian: that's not really answerable I'm afraid
[01:17] <pitiye> JDK Required: 'tools.jar' seems to be not in Studio classpath.
[01:17] <deadgrub> pitiye: did you install jdk?
[01:17] <pitiye> i dont see any tools.jar in the jdk
[01:17] <pitiye> deadgrub: yes
[01:18] <octacian> deadgrub: ok.. guess I'll research more about specific apps lol
[01:18] <deadgrub> salamanderrake: I resisted that urge.. you didn't :)
[01:18] <deadgrub> octacian: what is your goal?
[01:18] <pitiye> deadgrub: sudo apt-get install oracle-java9-installer
[01:18] <deadgrub> that's not the jdk I think
[01:18] <deadgrub> though I haven't installed java9
[01:18] <pitiye> deadgrub: i dont see any tools.jar in the jdk
[01:18] <platz> I would like to transparently "tunnel" a usb device (keyboard) through Ubuntu so that we have: [usb keyboard] -> [ubuntu box] -> [target box]. So, `[target box]` would think it's using `[usb keyboard]` directly. Is it possible?
[01:19] <deadgrub> normally I use openjdk-jdk
[01:19] <pitiye> do i have to switch to java 8 ?
[01:19] <deadgrub> platz: yes
[01:19] <orlock> platz: yeah
[01:19] <pitiye> deadgrub:  google does not recommend openjdk
[01:19] <orlock> platz: USB over IP
[01:19] <platz> yes, usbip - unfortnuately the target box is a windows box
[01:20] <orlock> platz: are you aware of the tool X2VNC?
[01:20] <deadgrub> platz: synaptic?
[01:20] <platz> which i can't seem to get working with usbip
[01:20] <deadgrub> I think is the name
[01:20] <SchrodingersScat> !synergy | platz
[01:20] <deadgrub> synergy.  that's it
[01:20] <platz> X2VNC? no, i will look into that
[01:20] <SchrodingersScat> !info synergy | platz , got it first
[01:20] <platz> synergy also sounds good, yes
[01:20] <orlock> platz: lets you control a windows machine running VNC from a linux system using the linux systems kb/mouse
[01:21] <orlock> so you just mouse across to the windows display
[01:21] <SchrodingersScat> platz: although note, they've since released a afaik not very freedom respecting version, and you may have to hunt for an older version.  Check though, because maybe I'm wrong and the world is nicer than I thought ;(
[01:21] <platz> I think i'll have to go the "over IP" route... but just for my own curiosotiy - is it not possible to "pipe" usb to an output port that is coming in ?
[01:21] <deadgrub> platz: it's difficult for a bunch of reasons
[01:21] <deadgrub> timing
[01:21] <octacian> deadgrub: at this point I'm planning some type of task manager that connects with a remote server.
[01:22] <deadgrub> drivers
[01:22] <platz> deadgrub: that makes sense, probably not possible then for that reason
[01:22] <deadgrub> in principle you could just forward the usb packets
[01:22] <deadgrub> but they are typically fairly timing dependent
[01:22] <orlock> platz: your problem seems to be with windows, rather than the concept
[01:22] <deadgrub> I expect a HUD (keyboard, mouse) would work fine though
[01:23] <platz> very interesting, yes its USB is pretty low-level
[01:23] <SchrodingersScat> that's always the problem, but we need answers
[01:23] <deadgrub> octacian: I'd pick an easy high level language, e.g. python
[01:23] <octacian> OK. What would the result look like? I like the look of programs such as xChat, Software Center, etc...
[01:24] <deadgrub> platz: and of course you need to be able to write such a tool on windows too - which means getting in below all the standard usb drivers
[01:24] <orlock> octacian: Theres many different gui widgets
[01:24] <django_> why doesnt this work
[01:24] <django_> export PATH=$PATH ~/bin/google_appengine/
[01:24] <django_> bash: export: `/home/django/bin/google_appengine/': not a valid identifier
[01:24] <octacian> ok. Well, I'll look into it.
[01:24] <deadgrub> $PATH:~/...
[01:24] <orlock> octacian: those can usually be accessed via many different languages
[01:24] <SchrodingersScat> django_: thought it needed ; between them, so you're adding a space there.
[01:24] <django_> https://cloud.google.com/appengine/downloads#Google_App_Engine_SDK_for_Python
[01:24] <orlock> python is nice as it lets you make reasonably consistent cross-platform apps
[01:24] <django_> says: export PATH=$PATH:/path/to/google_appengine/
[01:25] <platz> deadgrub: you're saying just forwarding the usb packets wouldn't cause the win box to register the usb device correctly?
[01:25] <orlock> with things like PyGame and WxWidgets
[01:25] <SchrodingersScat> django_: ok, : then
[01:25] <deadgrub> platz: I think it would be hard to make work.
[01:25] <deadgrub> just experience talking though, I've never done anything serious on windows
[01:25] <platz> ok!  it certainly agrees with the lack of information on attempting such a thing that i've tried to find..  i think the options over IP will have to do
[01:26]  * SchrodingersScat whispers, no one has
[01:26] <deadgrub> platz: if your heart is set on it, I'd work on getting linux-linux usbip working first
[01:26] <deadgrub> platz: what is your goal?
[01:26] <orlock> Or look at a different way to solve your problem
[01:26] <pitiye> deadgrub: i just installed jdk 8 and now it works
[01:26] <platz> linux-linux usbip i've been able to get working already, yes
[01:26] <orlock> like using an estabilshed protocol
[01:26] <deadgrub> people have pointed out off the shelf tools for virtual kvm
[01:26] <pitiye> deadgrub: looks like jdk 9 is not compatible with android studio
[01:27] <orlock> platz: you want to control windows from linux keyboard and mouse? use vnc
[01:27] <deadgrub> platz: so the obvious remaining reasons might be: you want to do it to learn; you want to forward some specialised usb device
[01:28] <deadgrub> the first is good, but I suggest difficult and there are better things to learn; the second is probably better done with a sniffer cable
[01:28] <deadgrub> pitiye: I haven't use java9, sorry.
[01:28] <platz> orlock: the primary issue is desire to use keyborad that on certain version of windows will not recognize due to crappy intel drivers that cannot be replaced apparently
[01:29] <platz> so i thought I'd use another box to host the keyboard
[01:29] <deadgrub> but I dont know that android uses java9 on the device, and who cares about security implications for the desktop environment
[01:29] <orlock> wtf
[01:29] <orlock> keyboard.. drivers?
[01:29] <platz> intel usb driver
[01:29] <deadgrub> platz: consider buying a kvm
[01:29] <pitiye> deadgrub: np
[01:30] <orlock> platz: so the motherboard USB drivers are screwy?
[01:30] <platz> deadgrub: that is definitely something i will look into, thank you!
[01:31] <platz> orlock: apparently it's tied to the OS version - the newest version of windows doesn't have the issue, but i cannot upgrade it in that environment
[01:31] <platz> lol, i just want to use my kinesis advantage
[01:32] <platz> they've documented the issue on their website - it's basically a 'wont fix' because i guess it's not their problem
[01:32] <platz> but i'll look into kvm
[01:32] <platz> or worst case use synergy
[01:33] <deadgrub> platz, you've reminded me that I should also look into a kvm, given I have a stack of machines...
[01:34] <orlock> I've never had good luck with them
[01:34] <orlock> always failed or been flaky/unreliable
[01:34] <orlock> hopefully better these days though
[01:37] <platz> deadgrub: sysadmin?
[01:37] <daemonhelp>  quick question, .. if two users execute the same program, are the memory requirements doubled?  from what i think i know, it doesnt require double the memory, because the process would get swapped?
[01:37] <platz>  /itpro
[01:41] <Kirito> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal#How_to_create_upsidedown_and.2For_reverse_text_with_your_terminal lol, does this really need to be included in the wiki?
[01:45] <sarkis> hey guys whats the difference between pinning in /etc/apt/preferences.d and holding a package where it shows up as hi in dpkg
[01:45] <tatertots> well guys my motherboard died in one of my ubuntu boxes, had an important file on it too, going to transplant the hard drive into another system and see if i can get my darn file
[01:47] <deadgrub> platz: ?
[01:50] <ipeh> looking
[01:51] <platz> nvm, usually folks with stacks of machines tend to be sysadmin/itpro type of folks
[01:51] <deadgrub> oic.  no, not sysadmin
[01:51] <platz> wel s/usually/sometimes
[01:51] <platz> ah cool
[01:52] <platz> i could use more more machines myself
[01:52] <platz> can always have more of a good thing
[01:57] <minimec> sarkis: Imagine apt-pin as an old way of ppa. You are able to use a different repository for a set of packages, as long that this repository is lister in the sources.list. You can apt-pin the package and its dependencies to that custom repository and even set some priorities for the packages.
[02:00] <reisio> minimec: pin can also be used to stick to older versions, right?
[02:01] <minimec> reisio: Yes
[02:02] <reisio> okay, whew
[02:02] <reisio> schema intact
[02:09] <deadgrub> nacc: Ok, I have learnt a lot of valuable lessons with this experience
[02:09] <ljf> 0.0
[02:09] <ljf> hello
[02:09] <deadgrub> one of which is: boot-repair is easier than trying to fix it yourself
[02:10] <deadgrub> I managed to get the machine to boot now
[02:10] <deadgrub> thanks for all your helps
[02:12] <minimec> sarkis: reisio: MY feeling is, that apt-pinned packages will even survice a release-upgrade, while packages on 'hold' might be upgraded to the new release. So I would prefer apt-pin, if the package is 'crucial'...
[02:26] <weaksauce> does ubuntu server have any firewall rules preconfigured at all?
[02:28] <OerHeks> weaksauce, no rules standard, https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/firewall.html
[02:30] <weaksauce> thanks OerHeks must be that I need to have the isp add the server to the arp cache or stop filtering then.
[02:30] <weaksauce> i can connect via ssh from here to another server on the work network but this new server is not working
[02:30] <weaksauce> remotely
[02:33] <OerHeks> sudo ufw app list
[02:34] <OerHeks> sudo ufw allow in "OpenSSH"  /or something like that
[02:52] <orlock> Is there a standard way of joining an Ubuntu 16.04 system to an AD domain?
[03:01] <weaksauce> OerHeks i did iptable -L and it was basically all accepts
[03:03] <ozzie-111> Hello! This is the channel for getting help with Ubuntu, correct?
[03:04] <weaksauce> ozzie-111 indeed
[03:05] <ozzie-111> Great. I think I might've broke my Bluetooth trying to get it to connect to my phone. Would anyone be willing to help me out?
[03:06] <HowieDIY> ozzie-111: can you define broke a bit more?
[03:08] <ozzie-111> Well, my phone couldn't see my laptop, and vice versa, and both were on and visible. SO I ran a couple of commands, which turned out to be for 14.04 instead of 16.04, and now the Bluetooth icon isn't showing in my taskbar, and when I go into my BLuetooth settings, when I turn it on, absolutely nothing happens.
[03:08] <HowieDIY> ozzie-111: have you tried a reboot on the computer yet?
[03:09] <francium> Quick question, what is the latest 32bit version?  I tried the 16.04 and it told me i needed a 64 bit machine
[03:09] <ozzie-111> Yes and no. I ran three commands, then rebooted, then tried reversing the commands, but I haven't rebooted yet lol
[03:10] <ozzie-111> Think I should try rebooting again right quick?
[03:10] <HowieDIY> ozzie-111: worht a quick shot to start off with
[03:10] <ozzie-111> Aiight. I'll be back to update either way
[03:11] <asdffff> say it
[03:11] <CodeMouse92> Is there a way to get GCC 5.4 on Ubuntu 14.04?
[03:11] <tatertots> 1
[03:12] <ozzie-111> I'm back, and unfortunately, it didn't work
[03:13] <HowieDIY> ozzie-111: which version of ubuntu are you running?
[03:13] <ozzie-111> 16.04 lts
[03:14] <HowieDIY> Unity/Gnome/KDE? Lubuntu?
[03:14] <OerHeks> CodeMouse92, even yakety is not on 5.4 yet http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gcc
[03:14] <Guest50778> test
[03:14] <HowieDIY> Guest50778: works
[03:14] <CodeMouse92> OerHeks: There is a PPA that gets ubuntu 16.04 up to 5.4
[03:14] <CodeMouse92> I'm using it now
[03:14] <CodeMouse92> I just need to find SOME way to get it into Ubuntu 14.04
[03:15] <CodeMouse92> (The Trusty variant of that PPA only gets to 5.3)
[03:15] <ozzie-111> Honestly, I'm not quite sure... Kinda newish to Linux
[03:15] <Guest50778> Yes, I want to learn to use this. I must register my user name and password nick
[03:15] <Guest50778> ¿Alguien en español?
[03:16] <CodeMouse92> !es Guest50778
[03:16] <YankDownUnder> Guest50778: If you read through the process at "freenode.net" - you will find out how to easily register your username/password and get everything sorted out. Si? Si. Verdad.
[03:17] <ozzie-111> It's the desktop version from ubuntu.com
[03:17] <ax562> sup YankDownUnder
[03:17] <YankDownUnder> ax562: Another beautiful day, mate.
[03:17] <ax562> I concur
[03:18] <HowieDIY> ozzie-111: unfortunately, I'm not really familiar with that version.. I'm not of much help here for you
[03:18] <ozzie-111> Alright, thank you for your time!
[03:18] <HowieDIY> ozzie-111: sorry.. :(
[03:18] <YankDownUnder> ozzie-111: "desktop version" of, er, what exactly? If you don't mind my asking...
[03:19] <ozzie-111> Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[03:19] <ax562> YankDownUnder is your nick a double entendre on purpose lol
[03:19] <ax562> :p
[03:19] <ozzie-111> I think I broke my Bluetooth trying to get it working
[03:19] <YankDownUnder> ozzie-111: So it's the straight-outta-the-box Ubuntu, using Unity as the desktop, yersh?
[03:19] <YankDownUnder> ax562: yes it is...
[03:20] <ax562> hahahah
[03:20] <ozzie-111> Straight out of the box, yes. Not sure about Unity, but I haven't done too much to it yet
[03:20] <ozzie-111> I'm rather new to using Linux
[03:20] <ax562> YankDownUnder you good with android?
[03:20] <YankDownUnder> ozzie-111: Right oh...so you're up and running - well, relatively running...so what's happening? What's the issues you're having, mate?
[03:21] <YankDownUnder> ax562: On phones, yes...on a PC? Er...not yet...not until RemixOS is up and running properly.
[03:22] <ozzie-111> Well, I was trying to sync my phone (Android, I think it's 4.4.4) to my laptop. Neither was detecting each other, and both were on and visible. So I looked online, and tried a possible solution. It didn;t work, though. So I rebooted and it still didn;t work. SO I tried reversing what I did, that didn't work. Then I rebooted, and here I am
[03:22] <ax562> yeah on phones
[03:24] <YankDownUnder> ozzie-111: Right oh...so the phone is not seeing the laptop? When you connect, does the phone recognise that it's plugged into anything at all?
[03:24] <ax562> I was wondering if you understand the partition layouts a little better than me, specfically I was wondering if it was possible to partition the internal sd card.
[03:25] <ozzie-111> YankDownUnder: Sorry, I think I forgot to say, I was trying to connect them via Bluetooth.
[03:25] <YankDownUnder> ax562: In most instances, phone makers/tablet makers - kinda don't follow a "norm"...
[03:25] <OerHeks> ozzie-111, did you install mtpfs  and mtp-tools ?
[03:25] <YankDownUnder> ozzie-111: AH, well, that helps.
[03:25] <ax562> hmmm
[03:25] <YankDownUnder> ozzie-111: Read above
[03:25] <ax562> did you try bluetooth manager ozzie-111
[03:26] <ozzie-111> I don't think I installed those
[03:27] <OerHeks> and mayby the tools do not trigger 'sudo mtp-detect ' so try that too
[03:27] <ozzie-111> And I went into the bluetooth settings, but not any manager
[03:27] <OerHeks> oh bt ..
[03:28] <YankDownUnder> ozzie-111: Just in case you've not read this, bookmark it - or read it at your leisure: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/ubuntu-help/bluetooth-connect-device.html
[03:28] <ax562> the vicodens are kicking in...woe...
[03:29] <ozzie-111> Hey, I apologize, but I'll brb. I gotta find my kid's bottle
[03:30] <YankDownUnder> When my children were small enough, I'd have them in the office with me...gosh...good times that...
[03:30] <OerHeks> find your own bottle.
[03:31] <ax562> lol
[03:31] <ax562> I take it your an Aussie YankDownUnder?
[03:32] <YankDownUnder> ax562: "Fake Australian"
[03:32] <Bashing-om> OerHeks: Mighty selfish of ya ^ .. Good whiskey is meant to be shared .
[03:32] <ax562> ^this
[03:33] <ax562> do you know who Bogut is on the Golden State Warriors?  He is Aussie..real Aussie :p
[03:33] <ax562> Andrew Bogut
[03:33] <YankDownUnder> I don't do sports. In any sense. None whatsoever.
[03:34] <ax562> nm then
[03:37] <Kirito> jesus, Guake only has about a hundred different pre-configured color schemes
[03:37] <Kirito> why can't gnome-terminal be the same? >_>
[03:38] <Kirito> 100 is not even an exaggeration, I think there are more
[03:43] <ozzie-111> I'm back, sorry about that. And that link you sent, I already read that before doing anything else
[03:51] <theskillwithin> hmm so I have AMD ubuntu installed but I have a intel processor?
[03:52] <tatertots> theskillwithin no worries AMD in the file name just means it's 64bit
[03:53] <theskillwithin> ahhhh
[03:53] <energizer> I've made a change in /sys/kernel/... and I'd like to keep track of the changes. What would be a typical directory/file for me to make note of this change?
[03:54] <theskillwithin> iv been a bit nurvous cuz I installed it on a mac pro desktop, and the hardware prob isnt very familiar.  Everything seems to work but the headphone jack only activates when u pluginto the speaker out as well haha
[03:54] <theskillwithin> whats the off topic chan for this?
[03:55] <Bashing-om> energizer: Well, I always comment in the file why and when I made the change ,,, and as well I do maintain a change_log of any and all changes I make to the system .
[03:55] <theskillwithin> poopybutthole, I swear iv seen your nick in cs:go
[03:55] <energizer> Bashing-om: where do you keep change_log?
[03:55] <poopybutthole> probably have
[03:56] <theskillwithin> do you run it in ubuntu?  iv experience performance problems with cs:go on ubuntu whereas works good in osx
[03:56] <Bashing-om> energizer: Well .. that is a file you make up and can keep it anywhere you find handy . ( and as well keep that file also backed up ) .
[03:57] <energizer> ok. i'm inferring there isn't a standard path for this sort of thing
[03:57] <energizer> Bashing-om: ^
[03:57] <Bashing-om> energizer: Correct, It is something you learn to do and adpat to your use case .
[03:58] <n0ob> hi guys, how do i enable directory listing in homestead?
[04:00] <Bashing-om> energizer: Mine " sysop@1404mini:~$ find /home -name chglog >> /home/sysop/less-used/chglog/home/sysop/less-used/chglog : .
[04:05] <kumarshubham> hey guys is it possible that after deletion of useraccount, his/her cronjob will continue to execute?
[04:06] <kumarshubham> what i think, it should not
[04:07] <socratesve> Test
[04:07] <YankDownUnder> kumarshubham: If the "cron" job was specific for a user, it would be deleted. However, if that user installed a system wide cron job, well, obviously, it will still run, hmm...
[04:08] <n0ob> how do i enable directory listing in vagrant homestead?
[04:12] <kumarshubham> YankDownUnder how i am gona find , from where its running?
[04:13] <YankDownUnder> kumarshubham: Look through all of the cron jobs - if anything is pointing to the "dead user", well, that answers that question, doesn't it?
[04:15] <YankDownUnder> kumarshubham: Check this out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto
[04:34] <mohsen-rashidi> hi. i need a package called 'rest' for compiling something but seems there is no package by that name in ubuntu repo. is there alternative?
[04:35] <xangua> !find rest
[04:36] <mohsen-rashidi> ubottu, i`m gonna try librest.
[04:36] <ahrc333ff> Another quick way to find it is apt-cache search rest
[04:37] <mohsen-rashidi> :))
[04:37] <tgm4883> ahrc333ff: FWIW, I believe that is all ubottu does there
[04:38] <mohsen-rashidi> ahrc333ff, tried that. returned a long list with no precise outcome!
[04:38] <ahrc333ff> tgm4883: interesting. the link at the end would have led me to think there is some webapi
[04:39] <ahrc333ff> mohsen-rashidi: do you know anything about rest? sometimes it helps to pipe the output into less, or a file, and scrollt hrough
[04:39] <ahrc333ff> e.g. apt-cache search rest | less
[04:40] <mohsen-rashidi> E: Unable to locate package librest
[04:40] <mohsen-rashidi> what`s going on here?!!
[04:41] <ahrc333ff> mohsen-rashidi: you have ot use the full name
[04:41] <ahrc333ff> librest-0.7-0
[04:42] <tgm4883> ahrc333ff: nah, that is a pretty generic link.   http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-bots/ubuntu-bots/devel/view/head:/PackageInfo/packages.py#L93
[04:42] <mohsen-rashidi> ahrc333ff, your right my friend. seems apt is not that intelligent! but the output says it`s already been installed!
[04:43] <mohsen-rashidi> compiling is way painful...
[04:43] <ahrc333ff> mohsen-rashidi: I'm guessing that one will do it for you. If that doesn't work I'd also install the librest-dev
[04:44] <ahrc333ff> tgm4883: oh, cool! thx for the info
[04:44] <tgm4883> ahrc333ff: np, wondered about it myself one day so I tracked it down
[04:45] <mohsen-rashidi> ahrc333ff, Thank you very much sir. that fixed it.
[04:45] <ahrc333ff> mohsen-rashidi: glad to hear it!
[04:46] <ahrc333ff> hopefully itwill compile now :) lol
[04:47] <mohsen-rashidi> ahrc333ff, i hope so :)
[04:48] <theskillwithin> anyone know why ~/.composer/vendor/bin does not exist for me?
[04:50] <tgm4883> theskillwithin: you might want to start with explaining what that is
[04:50] <Bashing-om> theskillwithin: Why would it " sysop@1404mini:~$ ls -al ~/.composer/vendor/bin >> ls: cannot access /home/sysop/.composer/vendor/bin: No such file or directory " ?
[04:50] <theskillwithin> the instructions for installing this (Scroll to bottom) http://www.magestead.com/
[04:51] <theskillwithin> apparent'y I am supposed to have a new cli command `magestead new`   and to do that it instructs me to add that to my path, but that doesn't even exit haha
[04:51] <theskillwithin> hmmm that is odd.
[04:52] <theskillwithin> OHHHHH  READING WORKS "Make sure to place the ~/.composer/vendor/bin directory (or the equivalent directory for your OS) "
[04:52] <theskillwithin> or equivalent directory for your os<----
[04:52] <ninjapold> Hey guys, quick strange question. Upgraded to 16.04 the other day and there's a tiny "notification" tab in the bottom left, what is it and how do I disable it?
[04:53] <tgm4883> ninjapold: running unity?
[04:56] <paranoidabhi> hi guys.
[04:56] <theskillwithin> hmm https://getcomposer.org/doc/04-schema.md#bin  nothing saying where this composer bin file coorisponds on linux
[04:56] <SocratesVe> Hello!
[04:58] <paranoidabhi> I wanted to install theano on my computer(Ubuntu 16.04, GeForce 940M). The tutorial mentions two options 1. NVIDIA Jetson TX1 embedded platform 2. Ubuntu 16.04 with cuda 7.5
[04:58] <paranoidabhi> Which one should I follow? Link http://deeplearning.net/software/theano/install_ubuntu.html#install-ubuntu
[04:58] <SocratesVe> How do I confirm my password irssi? Now I have the email but do not know where to place the command.
[04:58] <ahrc333ff> SocratesVe: The instructions are usually in the email...
[04:59] <SocratesVe> Yes, it is a friend, but in what area I irssi place? How do I know if confirmed?
[05:00] <theskillwithin> hmm its not in /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin eaither
[05:00] <SocratesVe> Yes, it is, but in what area I irssi place? How do I know if confirmed?
[05:04] <snkcld> why am i seeing upstart --user in 16.04? isnt 16.04 using systemd?
[05:07] <ninjapold> tgm4883, no, Gnome
[05:11] <leftist> anyone having issues with wifi when you come out of sleep?
[05:11] <leftist> secondly anyone having issues connecting to some wifi routers?
[05:11] <Prasad> Hello
[05:12] <Prasad> looks like this is a log of something
[05:13] <Prasad> whats the topic here?
[05:13] <leftist> no topic
[05:13] <Prasad> ok
[05:13] <leftist> there is a bug with wifi and sleep mode 16.04 ltw
[05:14] <leftist> lts
[05:14] <Prasad> there is bug in NetworkManager applet where it shows device not managed
[05:15] <leftist> yeah prasad
[05:15] <leftist> exactly
[05:15] <Prasad> yeah
[05:15] <Prasad> also
[05:16] <Prasad> I am unable to connect usb dongle as it is detected as CD-ROM most of the time
[05:16] <Prasad> in 16.04
[05:16] <leftist> but i have  difficulty or the inability to connect to one of the isp routers here. i can to one of the other isp's here but one is impossible.
[05:16] <leftist> i'm using a touchscreen but i think i will just sell this thing. it's a pain
[05:17] <Prasad> or wait for fix from ubuntu
[05:17] <leftist> when the power supply is connected, the arrow jets all over the screen out of control
[05:17] <leftist> strange prasad
[05:18] <Prasad> 14.04 is quite stable than 16.04
[05:18] <theskillwithin> I forgot whats that screencast recorder on ubuntu
[05:18] <leftist> heck man 10.10 was my favorite
[05:19] <Prasad> I love Ubuntu but bug makes me sad :(
[05:19] <Prasad> every new version has new issues
[05:19] <leftist> any linux beats windows hands down
[05:20] <leftist> you can always put osx on you machine you know.
[05:20] <Prasad> yeah but i like opensource os
[05:20] <leftist> yeah
[05:20] <Prasad> and ubuntu is currently on top
[05:21] <leftist> yeah definately maybe
[05:21] <Prasad> why other ppl are not talking
[05:21] <justsomeguy> I uninstalled gnome and unity. Now both NetworkManager and lightdm are missing. Consequently, systemd hangs while trying to start them. ...am I screwed?
[05:22] <leftist> probably part of that bug. what version jussomeguy
[05:22] <justsomeguy> leftist: 16.04 LTS.
[05:22] <leftist> prasad probably in rio
[05:22] <leftist> partying
[05:22] <leftist> yeah probably part of that bug
[05:23] <leftist> sudo service network-manager restart
[05:23] <leftist> try that
[05:23] <justsomeguy> leftist: Ok. I'll have to reinstall it first, but I'm sure I can find some .debs on launchpad for that.
[05:23] <lucas-arg> how do we select fastest mirror form command line or from wherever?
[05:23] <leftist> i think i will install centos desktop tomorrow just to see what is up with it these days.
[05:24] <leftist> ok justsomeguy
[05:24] <justsomeguy> leftist: Do you have a link to the bugreport I could look at?
[05:24] <leftist> jsut a sec
[05:25] <Guest47775> i wo
[05:27] <leftist> i lost it. my history is gone as well. i did a search and found out about the bug
[05:27] <leftist> sorry about that.
[05:27] <Guest47775> iwant to update to 16.04ubuntu studio
[05:27] <leftist> i've a problem with this laptop
[05:27] <justsomeguy> leftist: No worries. Thanks for looking. :)
[05:27] <leftist> no problem
[05:28] <leftist> touchscreen is a real  pain in my opinion
[05:28] <leftist> pretty useless
[05:29] <justsomeguy> They're really good fingerprint collectors. ...that's about it.
[05:29] <ec> Hi, y'all. Old-school occasional Slackware and Arch user, currently using Ubuntu as a VM for the first time.
[05:29] <ec> Where the hell is `man`? How can I install it?
[05:29] <ec> :P
[05:31] <OerHeks> !info manpages-dev
[05:32] <justsomeguy> It should be as simple as 'apt-get install man', or 'apt-cache search man' in case 'man' isn't a valid package name. Are you using a really striped down configuration? Usually it's already installed.
[05:34] <wyseguy> hi guys
[05:34] <qvik> hi
[05:35] <wyseguy> i have a dell e7240 and they ship them with ubuntu but its Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS 64-bit... i am running 16.04 now and most things seem fine, but one big drawback is that it heats up quick and the fan never seems to go below 30%
[05:35] <wyseguy> could this be due to upgrading? never tried Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS 64-bit on it
[05:36] <Bashing-om> !minimal | justsomeguy Install the DE that you desire
[05:36] <wyseguy> i also installed tlp and tlp-rdw and i have ran "top" and nothing is chewing up the cpu
[05:38] <vince_> I messed up and did a ddrescue --force ./ubuntuiso.iso /dev/receiving_ssd
[05:39] <ubuntu-10> hiii
[05:39] <vince_> I was able to delete the partitions created by basically making the SSD the installation medium... but there is one problem left
[05:39] <vince_> I now have an icon in the device listing that has the name of the installation ISO but is not a real device, how do I get rid of this?
[05:40] <vince_> or do I have to do a clean install in order to correct my mistake, and if so... shouldn't deleting the partition with cfdisk remove the label of the disk that I am seeing in Ubuntu?
[05:41] <justsomeguy>  Bashing-om: Well, the real issue is that I need to fix my current install, which currently has no network access, and won't boot normally. The desktop environment isn't a big deal. Thanks for the link, regardless. Seems interesting. I'm just going to chroot in from a live disk and fix the broken packages that way.
[05:44] <ali_> hi
[05:44] <Bashing-om> justsomeguy: That works too .. but as you removed the DE(s) you are in for a long hard row to hoe .
[05:45] <justsomeguy> Bashing-om: True.
[05:48] <kab24> лфи24
[05:52] <snkcld> can i build an ubuntu package without committing changes? when i attempt to build, it complains that there are uncommitted changes
[05:55] <Bray90820> I'm getting a message saying "The volume boot has only 4.9MB of disk space left" and Idk why or really how to clean it up
[05:57] <Bray90820> I suspect it's old kernels but I'm not sure
[05:58] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1357093 ?? try ' sudo apt-get autoremove ' .
[05:59] <bayman> when i adduser newuser, the /home/newuser wasn't created, why?
[05:59] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: What will sudo apt-get sudo remove do?
[06:00] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: If you have the operational overhead, And the package manager is in a consistent state, will remove also old kernels .
[06:01] <Bray90820> Thanks
[06:02] <Bray90820> is 94MB used in boot normal
[06:02] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: 'df -h ' might tell the tale that it is the root partition at capacity .
[06:02] <bayman> how to create /home/newuser when adding a new user using adduser
[06:02] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: O would ecpect much more than 94MB to be used .
[06:03] <Bashing-om> expect*
[06:03] <Bray90820> Oh wait never mind I was looking at the size of the partition now how much was free don't listen to me
[06:04] <Bray90820> 104MB is used
[06:06] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: Is that  normal or what
[06:08] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: stoll quite small .. mune with 3 kernels : 74860   boot74860   boot .. in megabytes .
[06:09] <Bashing-om> mine*
[06:09] <Bray90820> Is there an issue you think?
[06:10] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: The systen says so .. to see where ; ' df -h ' and cd / ' sudo du -sx * | sort -n ' .
[06:11] <Bray90820> There was an issue but then I did auto remove now there is 64MB available there was only 4.9 free before
[06:12] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: Well. approximately 120Mb per kernel installed .
[06:12] <sacarlson2> bayman: that is strange as it should have auto created the /home/newuser
[06:14] <Bray90820> Well so you think everything is fine right now or do you think I should do something else or what
[06:15] <Bray90820> Bashing-om:
[06:16] <Bashing-om> bayman: perhaps ' useradd ' would have been better as with 'adduser' one has to supply the arguments to create . see: man useradd .
[06:17] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: I have not seen your numbers .. or where the disk space is comsumed .. no way for me to advise further yet .
[06:18] <Bray90820> Do you wanna see the output of "df -h"?
[06:19] <sacarlson2> Bray90820: maybe ls -l /boot  better
[06:19] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/raw/zBn0twyQ
[06:20] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: That was after doing auto remove
[06:20] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: That would be a good indication .., as well as what the du command relates . ( change directory to / so we get a reading .. will take a bit and ignore du: cannot access ‘proc/........ ) .
[06:20] <Bray90820> So what does that mean to me?
[06:22] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: Good so far " 180M  104M   64M  62% /boot " now what kernels are installed ' dpkg -l | grep linux- ' ?
[06:23] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/raw/Mm14ftXi
[06:26] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: Yeah .. did good .. but you have a small /boot partition. One can gain a bit more space with ' dpkg --list |grep "^rc" | cut -d " " -f 3 | xargs sudo dpkg --purge ' . and remove those packages marked 'rc' .. where that is the package is removed but config files remain .
[06:27] <Bray90820> So if I run the command it will remove those packages
[06:27] <Bray90820> dpkg --list |grep "^rc" | cut -d " " -f 3 | xargs sudo dpkg --purge
[06:29] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: Uh Huh .. will do so .. any and all packaages that the package manager has marked 'rc' will be removed .. see in your output there are several so marked .
[06:30] <Bray90820> Yea I see that
[06:30] <Bray90820> So does it look good now?
[06:30] <Bray90820> http://pastebin.com/raw/F8yJqvRs
[06:30] <totes> Anyone know if its possible to plug a vga into a server and into a laptop to c its display?
[06:31] <Bray90820> totes: Is it a gui?
[06:31] <totes> Bray90820: Right now it doesnt have anything on it.
[06:32] <Bray90820> So it's not command line only?
[06:32] <Bray90820> Does it have a desktop environment like unity or gnome or anything on it?
[06:33] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: Yepper, good .. you have the booting kernel and 1 back up / Now as you jnow you have a small boot partition . when a new kernel is installed .. once you know it is stable will have to "sudo apt-get autoremove" to keep that partition under control .
[06:33] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: Thanks
[06:34] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: My bit to try and help. Carry on smartly :)
[06:34] <Bray90820> :)
[06:35] <totes> Bray90820: I Havent tried booting it up cause its so loud and outputs so much heat, so i would imagine it looks like any other server that has nothing on it. It has one of those drac cards though that allows remote access so maybe im suppose to use ethernet. Getting a monitor and keyboard would be tougher.
[06:35] <Bray90820> I don't think I will be able to help you on this one until you know what is on it
[06:35] <EriC^^> totes: look into PXE boot, i think that's what you want
[06:35] <avis-> is it possible to use older ubuntu and pay someone who have the whole ubuntu for that repo version cloned ?
[06:36] <EriC^^> avis-: why don't you use a newer ubuntu?
[06:36] <avis-> i believe in a beauty
[06:37] <totes> EriC^^: ah, now that sounds familiar. Otherwise i think a KVM switch would do.
[06:37] <ikonia> why would you need to pay someone ?
[06:37] <ikonia> it's still in the old-releases repo (or will be moved there)
[06:38] <avis-> i assumed i'd have to pay because i'm always out of luck iconia
[06:39] <ikonia> avis-: ?
[06:39] <EriC^^> avis-: the old ubuntu might have security vulnerabilities
[06:39] <avis-> EriC^^, i accept.
[06:40] <unkown> sup guys
[06:41] <unkown> Quit
[06:41] <unkown> ls
[06:41] <unkown> cant we run commands here lol
[06:54] <four-dogs> Hey guys, what r u doing here
[06:55] <ikonia> it's a support channel for the ubuntu linux distribution
[06:55] <ikonia> checkout /topic
[06:57] <superkuh> Okay. I guess the update that Ubuntu was doing to it's us.archive.ubuntu.com repos yesterday was the completely removal of all archived lucid packages.
[06:57] <superkuh> That's pretty fucking shitty.
[06:58] <aasd> hi
[06:58] <aasd> looking for girl
[06:58] <sacarlson2> superkuh: time to upgrade?
[06:58] <aasd> is there anyone ?
[06:58] <aasd> kız yok mu kız
[06:58] <superkuh> sacarlson2, let's not get into it. It's personal preference. Most of my machines run modern ubuntu. this one never, ever will.
[06:59] <superkuh> I get not providing security updates anymore, etc.
[06:59] <superkuh> But removing the packages from the archives?
[06:59] <aasd> kız istiyom
[06:59] <aasd> kızzzz
[06:59] <aasd> kızzzzzz
[06:59] <sacarlson2> superkuh: hay I'm not an edge guy I run LTS 14.04
[06:59] <EriC^^> !ops | aasd
[06:59] <aasd> melikee
[06:59] <aasd> kız
[06:59] <avis-> it definitely does not benefit the community or those with low end hardware
[06:59] <four-dogs> Is that mean it allows any question about the Ubuntu be asked here even it looks like much asinine?
[06:59] <superkuh> As do I, on my new machines. But this isn't about upgrading.
[06:59] <ducasse> aasd: cut it out
[06:59] <aasd> hello
[06:59] <OerHeks> superkuh, use the old-release trick, don't complain that old repos go offline
[07:00] <aasd> ok
[07:00] <superkuh> OerHeks, old-release trick?
[07:00] <aasd> ip ni vr lan bana
[07:00] <superkuh> I'm definitely willing to try any solutions you can suggest.
[07:00] <ducasse> !eolupgrades | superkuh
[07:00] <ducasse> superkuh: read that
[07:00] <superkuh> ducasse, oh wow. Never heard that before.
[07:00] <sacarlson2> superkuh: I'm not sure but there was old archives some place before when I needed them
[07:00] <superkuh> :|
[07:01] <superkuh> It's not like I haven't tried to upgrade the OS on cloned drivers literally 7 times.
[07:01] <OerHeks> see the old-release edit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades#Upgrading
[07:01] <superkuh> Er, drives.
[07:01] <avis-> is the trick to send you to a web page that says please upgrade to a supported version.   that wasn't even fools gold
[07:01] <ducasse> superkuh: there are instructions on how to get old packages
[07:01] <superkuh> Oh. Well, er, thanks.
[07:01] <superkuh> Not used to getting actual help rather than people telling me to upgrade.
[07:01] <OerHeks> no further support, that machine should not be online
[07:02] <ducasse> superkuh: you still should :)
[07:02] <superkuh> Right. I keep all my userspace, x.org , etc up to date as much as I can myself.
[07:03] <avis-> superkuh, i assume a man of your taste using hardy heron
[07:04] <superkuh> lucid. Last of the gnome2.
[07:04] <avis-> i accept.
[07:04] <sacarlson2> superkuh: oh you might like mint  as I never liked the user interface of ubuntu ofter that
[07:04] <superkuh> You guys: I use modern Ubuntu with MATE on new machines.
[07:04] <avis-> i think lucid even nicer to me as a car ride than maverick
[07:05] <sacarlson2> superkuh: ya mate that's what mint runs
[07:05] <sacarlson2> and I also
[07:05] <superkuh> It's just this one with all it's custom compiled stuff, gtk1 libs, and random changes cannot possibly be upgrade.
[07:05] <superkuh> +d
[07:11] <superkuh> Excellent. That fixed my problem. Thanks guys.
[07:36] <trijntje_> Hi all, I got my system in an unusable state after upgrading to 16.04. I have no GUI at all, but I do have terminal and network access. How can I fix this?
[07:36] <hsdd> ha
[07:37] <OerHeks> trijntje, hold shift @ boot, choose recovery, login and run dpkg-reconfigure -a and update again
[07:39] <EriC^^> OerHeks: dpkg-reconfigure or dpkg --configure -a ?
[07:39] <MACscr> ok, so i have logrotate in my /etc/cron.daily/, yet it doesnt appear to be running. If i manually run the script, it works fine without issue. Where should i look at next to find out why its not running daily like it should?
[07:40] <OerHeks> EriC^^, good Q...
[07:40] <trijntje_> EriC^^, OerHeks dpkg --configure -a gives "Errors were encountered processing python-minimal"
[07:41] <EriC^^> trijntje_: try apt-get install --reinstall python-minimal
[07:41] <EriC^^> trijntje_: is it mounted rw?
[07:42] <trijntje_> EriC^^: yes. But I cant --reinstall since I have broken packages ;)
[07:43] <EriC^^> does it say why it won't install it though?
[07:43] <theyesman> install the package using gdebi-core
[07:43] <trijntje_> EriC^^: 8 broken packages. gstreamer1.0-clutter depends on libcogl15, but its not installable
[07:44] <trijntje_> EriC^^: python depends on python-minimal(=2.7.5-ubuntu3) but 2.7.11-1 is to be installed
[07:44] <trijntje_> and 6 more
[07:51] <trijntje_> After upgrading to 16.04 python depends on python-minimal (version 2.7.5-ubuntu3), but it wants to install 2.7.11. So it won't continue the upgrade and I'm stuck with a broken system. Any hints on how to solve this?
[07:51] <nschoe> Hi everyone, I'm having a weird problem: we have a custom apt repository, I have added the address in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/release.list, but then when I do apt-get update it fails with: http://lpaste.net/170515
[07:52] <voiter> i get this error message after an update: could not insert nvidia_340 required key not available
[07:52] <nschoe> To give a little context, I'm trying to build a Docker image, I have done that several times and in fact, I have just built other images with the same apt depository and they don't fail like this. Any clue what can go wrong?
[07:52] <voiter> i don't find anything useful in search engines.
[07:54] <ducasse> trijntje_: grab the python metapackage from packages.ubuntu.com and force the install with dpkg?
[07:56] <ducasse> voiter: switch off secure boot
[07:57] <ducasse> voiter: alternatively, create a key and sign the module. there are howtos online, but you will need to do it after every kernel upgrade.
[08:00] <cglocke> hey guys. any tips how to upgrade my ubuntu if the update-manager crashs due to a UnicodeDecodeError in python?
[08:02] <ducasse> cglocke: can you pastebin the full error?
[08:03] <cglocke> sec
[08:03] <voiter> ducasse, how do i disable secure boot?
[08:03] <ducasse> voiter: there should be a menu entry in the bios
[08:05] <cglocke> ducasse http://pastebin.com/FyQNpT9M
[08:07] <ducasse> cglocke: not sure, tbh. it could be a locale problem, which locale are you usibg?
[08:07] <cglocke> well.... I'm unsure. but it's a German locale
[08:08] <ducasse> cglocke: try 'sudo locale-gen'
[08:11] <voiter> ducasse, i can't disable secure boot but i changed from windows os to other os. that did the trick. thanks for the hint.
[08:12] <ducasse> voiter: that is disabling sb, some just label it differently :)
[08:12] <cglocke> ducasse some locales seem to be updated. but the decodeerror still occures
[08:16] <InvGhost> hello, any idea why my speaker is constantly hissing, doesnt matter if headphones is pluged in or not. Also headphones have sligh hissing sound ( it was lounder, but i fexed it by turing alsamixer loopbackm to off). I tired to blacklist drivers to find who is making hissing sound. It seems that it makes sda_intel_somethig, but it also no sound if it's turned off. UBuntu 16.04 pc - asusn550jx
[08:18] <voiter> ducasse, :P k
[08:18] <loneshoe> sounds like it could be just a poor source?
[08:18] <PrashanT> can anybody help me   i am getting this error
[08:18] <PrashanT> E: Malformed line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/virtualbox.list (dist)
[08:18] <PrashanT> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[08:18] <PrashanT> whenever i am trying to sudo apt-get update in terminal
[08:20] <sacarlson2> PrashanT: what method did you use to add the repository?
[08:20] <k1l> PrashanT: please run in terminal: "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999" and show the output url here
[08:21] <sacarlson2> PrashanT: might try disable that repository and reinstall the later virtualbox repository
[08:23] <PrashanT> http://pastebin.com/RG9kD7Pn
[08:23] <PrashanT> this is the output
[08:24] <k1l> did you delete some output?
[08:25] <PrashanT> http://pastebin.com/z0Rg1Xvm
[08:25] <PrashanT> here  new one .. i guess i missed
[08:26] <k1l> PrashanT: its still missing all the ppas. please run the command i gave you. it will make sure not to miss any output
[08:27] <PrashanT> i had run the command properly ,i have copied the whole output
[08:28] <k1l> the outpu you showed is not matching the error you showed us
[08:29] <PrashanT> here it is
[08:29] <PrashanT> http://pastebin.com/x29WQRAW
[08:30] <k1l> PrashanT: ok. since you try to hide something and i dont know why: your ppa file from virtualbox got an issue. you need to fix that. what it is i cant tell you since you dont show it.
[08:32] <PrashanT> can u tell me another command to get the same output
[08:35] <PrashanT> i m not hiding anything
[08:38] <sacarlson2> PrashanT: maybe send back the command line you used to create the above as k1| command works for me
[08:39] <sacarlson2> maybe he can't see the ^
[08:39] <PrashanT> grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:39] <sacarlson2> nope that is incorrect
[08:39] <sacarlson2> grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[08:40] <sacarlson2> in fact longer than that with the pipe
[08:41] <PrashanT> http://pastebin.com/LqUVnLTR
[08:41] <PrashanT> is that correct output now?
[08:42] <sacarlson2> PrashanT: much better
[08:42] <PrashanT> now what's the deal now
[08:43] <sacarlson2> not sure takes time to analize
[08:43] <gahan> what's the quickest way to get rid of systemd in xenial and replace it with upstart?
[08:44] <k1l> gahan: there might be a fallback with upstart in grub. i am not sure right now if that is still there with 16.04
[08:45] <CrapCrapCrapCrap> Hello
[08:45] <CrapCrapCrapCrap> OH CRAP!
[08:45] <gahan> k1l: i'm using openstack to boot 16.04 images, would it still use grub? and I don't see upstart in menu.lst atm
[08:45] <CrapCrapCrapCrap> Its the crappy crap-crapper of crappy crappers with extra CRAP!!!!!!
[08:45] <k1l> gahan: its grub2 not grub1 anymore
[08:45] <CrapCrapCrapCrap> hey
[08:45] <CrapCrapCrapCrap> who kicked me?
[08:46] <CrapCrapCrapCrap> was it the crap monster?
[08:47] <PrashanT> is there any solution ?
[08:48] <k1l> gahan: upstart-sysv  should be the package that reinstalls upstart
[08:48] <k1l> gahan: but i would test that in a dev enviroment first.
[08:49] <PrashanT> ?
[08:49] <sacarlson2> PrashanT: sorry humans here we are slow
[08:49] <sacarlson2> PrashanT: not computers
[08:50] <sacarlson2> PrashanT: my line does not match yours:  mine:  /etc/apt/sources.list:deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian trusty contrib
[08:50]  * YankDownUnder looks for humans...or semi-humans...
[08:51] <sacarlson2> PrashanT: as I asked you before how did you install this and I got no answer form you, it seems you did it manually or ??
[08:52] <PrashanT> yes manually
[08:53] <sacarlson2> PrashanT: well that's why it didn't work
[08:53] <PrashanT> then what
[08:53] <PrashanT> 's the solution
[08:53] <sacarlson2> PrashanT: make it match mine that is correct
[08:53] <sacarlson2> PrashanT: and again apt-get update
[08:54] <sacarlson2> PrashanT: remove the line below it with non-free
[08:54] <PrashanT> look i am new on linux...  how should i do that
[08:54] <sacarlson2> PrashanT: you said you did it manually so I assume you know how to use an editor
[08:54] <YankDownUnder> PrashanT: Open a terminal, and type: sudo apt-get update
[08:54] <PrashanT> vi
[08:55] <sacarlson2> PrashanT: what ever editor you like with sudo
[08:55] <PrashanT>  sudo -H gedit
[08:56] <sacarlson2> not sure what the -H does but I guess so
[08:57] <PrashanT> i m getting error Failed to register: Timeout was reached
[08:58] <PrashanT> while opening with editor
[08:58] <sacarlson2> PrashanT: is this a remote box?
[08:59] <sacarlson2> PrashanT: you sudo -H gedit ; works for me
[08:59] <PrashanT> what is remote box?
[08:59] <sacarlson2> like did you ssh into it?
[09:00] <sacarlson2> is it in your room
[09:00] <sacarlson2> or high up on some mountain top
[09:00] <PrashanT> u mean someone has access to my machine?
[09:00] <sacarlson2> ??
[09:01] <sacarlson2> that depends if you let them
[09:01] <PrashanT> i let my friend one time ... after that i don't know
[09:02] <sacarlson2> your not answering my question
[09:02] <sacarlson2> well anyway edit the file /etc/apt/sources.list.d/virtualbox.list  and fix it
[09:03] <sacarlson2> next customeer
[09:03] <PrashanT> now i have opened
[09:04] <PrashanT> what  i have to change?
[09:05] <sacarlson2> when compared with mine seems it's missing trusty in the line.
[09:05] <sacarlson2> as the line I pasted above shows
[09:07] <PrashanT> /etc/apt/sources.list:deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian trusty contrib this one?
[09:07] <sacarlson2> yes
[09:10] <sacarlson2> PrashanT: and remove the line bellow it with non-free for now
[09:10] <sacarlson2> PrashanT: or comment it out
[09:11] <PrashanT> i am getting confused which line  should i delete and which to add
[09:11] <sacarlson2> PrashanT: just put a # in front of the line that has non-free in it
[09:12] <sacarlson2> PrashanT: as the # is the comment out this line symbol
[09:12] <PrashanT> after saving the file should i do sudo apt-get update?
[09:13] <sacarlson2> yes
[09:13] <sacarlson2> now show me the line that is left here:
[09:13] <sacarlson2> should be only one line not #
[09:13] <PrashanT> same error
[09:13] <PrashanT> i am getting
[09:14] <PrashanT> http://pastebin.com/DHeriSRS
[09:14] <PrashanT> i edited this
[09:17] <sacarlson2> PrashanT: what is the file name of that file?
[09:18] <PrashanT> sudo -H gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:18] <PrashanT> source.list
[09:19] <sacarlson2> sorry it seems yours is in a different location. so comment out what you just did
[09:19] <sacarlson2> PrashanT: or delete the line you added
[09:20] <sacarlson2> PrashanT: you path is here: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/virtualbox.list
[09:20] <PrashanT> done
[09:20] <PrashanT> ok
[09:21] <PrashanT> then now?
[09:21] <sacarlson2> PrashanT: two options,  comment all the lines and see if the error goes away or comment the non-free line and make the same as mine
[09:22] <PrashanT> can u send me ur source.list file
[09:22] <sacarlson2> PrashanT: no
[09:22] <sacarlson2> PrashanT:  the path of your file is here /etc/apt/sources.list.d/virtualbox.list
[09:23] <sacarlson2> edit that file
[09:23] <PrashanT> ok
[09:25] <PrashanT> should i comment non free lines too including the command u told me
[09:26] <sacarlson2> yes comment out the line with non-free in it
[09:26] <PrashanT> getting this error now
[09:26] <PrashanT> E: Type '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/virtualbox.list:deb' is not known on line 74 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:26] <PrashanT> E: Malformed line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/virtualbox.list (dist)
[09:26] <PrashanT> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[09:27] <sacarlson2> make the only active line: PrashanT is this due to the mod that id mad d into ind deb
[09:28] <PrashanT> what's dat mean
[09:28] <PrashanT> ?
[09:28] <sacarlson2> sorry was typeing already
[09:28] <sacarlson2> PrashanT:  what did you put in line one?
[09:29] <sacarlson2> I think due to the changes made from irc is corrupted
[09:29] <sacarlson2> paste bin the file
[09:30] <sacarlson2> on my screen deb becomes  a face
[09:30] <PrashanT> http://pastebin.com/5ZWqkZft
[09:30] <sacarlson2> there should be only 2 lines in that file
[09:31] <sacarlson2> path of this file?
[09:31] <PrashanT>  /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:32] <sacarlson2> no the file we are working on is :etc/apt/sources.list.d/virtualbox.list
[09:32] <sacarlson2> and is the file that is causing the error
[09:32] <PrashanT> yes
[09:33] <sacarlson2> so lets see it paste it
[09:33] <sacarlson2> pastebin it
[09:33] <PrashanT> http://pastebin.com/5ZWqkZft
[09:33] <PrashanT> i did it
[09:33] <PrashanT> this is the link
[09:33] <PrashanT> above
[09:35] <sacarlson2> try look at your link and tell me that has only 2 lines
[09:36] <sacarlson2> and that link above is now this path: etc/apt/sources.list.d/virtualbox.list
[09:36] <sacarlson2> look carefully at the path
[09:36] <c0ax> HI. I have problem with ubuntu internet connection on network. I cannot even ping anyhing. An hour ago everything worked. And when I do reboot when I try to ping <IP_ADDRESS> it says network unreachable
[09:37] <c0ax> Lol
[09:37] <c0ax> And now
[09:37] <c0ax> it works
[09:37] <c0ax> LOL
[09:37] <sacarlson2> good I fixed it without fixing it
[09:37] <PrashanT> so should i open this in editor etc/apt/sources.list.d/virtualbox.list?
[09:37] <sacarlson2> no PASTEBIN that file to me
[09:37] <PrashanT> which one?
[09:38] <PrashanT> source.list?
[09:38] <sacarlson2> dude paste bin the file etc/apt/sources.list.d/virtualbox.list to me
[09:39] <sacarlson2> if it contains what I see in that file then some how it got mest up
[09:39] <PrashanT> it's empty
[09:39] <sacarlson2> empty?
[09:39] <PrashanT> yes
[09:39] <PrashanT> i am getting warning
[09:39] <PrashanT> too
[09:39] <sacarlson2> did you remove something from it?
[09:39] <PrashanT> no
[09:40] <PrashanT> http://pastebin.com/ggBkLUEK
[09:40] <PrashanT> here is the warning
[09:41] <sacarlson2> but from what was seen in the report you sent us we see this in it: http://pastebin.com/LqUVnLTR
[09:42] <sacarlson2> how are you determining that it is empty?
[09:43] <PrashanT> i got messed up
[09:43] <PrashanT> i don't understand anything
[09:44] <sacarlson2> I'm not sure try another editor vi if you can
[09:45] <sacarlson2> and that link showed you again editing the wrong file
[09:45] <PrashanT> it is better i should shift to windows
[09:45] <sacarlson2> if your better at windows be my guest
[09:46] <sacarlson2> but not to edit this file
[09:50] <NuZe> hi
[09:51] <NuZe> I have a pb with installation of Ubuntu in my Mac (OS X 10,9.5)
[09:52] <NuZe> I waited several hours then this message appears in the box :
[09:52] <Ubuntu> sup
[09:52] <NuZe> "perf interrupt took too long"
[09:53] <NuZe> do you know what happened ?
[09:53] <YankDownUnder> NuZe: Have you installed all the third party drivers required - and also have you done an update?
[09:54] <minimec> NuZe: http://askubuntu.com/questions/621490/what-does-perf-interupt-mean https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=187636
[09:55] <NuZe> I think I downloaded Ubuntu, used unetbootin and start installation
[09:55] <NuZe> and my computer has the performance to do the installation properly
[09:55] <NuZe> so i dont understand
[09:56] <YankDownUnder> NuZe: Read the link that minimec gave you
[09:56] <NuZe> thanks for the link, i'm checking
[09:58] <NuZe> all right i've read but what then ?
[09:59] <NuZe> do i have to wait more ?
[09:59] <minimec> YankDownUnder: NuZe: Also an interesting post... http://serverfault.com/questions/714648/how-to-disable-perf-subsystem-in-linux-kernel
[09:59] <ducasse> cglocke: you still there? had to step afk.
[09:59] <YankDownUnder> NuZe: Read that one. I'm not the one with the issue...
[10:00] <NuZe> ok i'm reading
[10:03] <minimec> NuZe: (comment2) cit. 'The kernel automatically determines a sample rate that could be used without impacting system performance and it logs it even when perf isn't active or even installed'
[10:03] <NuZe> right but my installation take a long long long moment
[10:03] <NuZe> (more than 10 hours)
[10:03] <NuZe> is it really normal ?
[10:04] <sacarlson2> I don't think so
[10:04] <minimec> NuZe: No.
[10:04] <NuZe> and here is my configuration :
[10:05] <NuZe> Proc : 3,06 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
[10:05] <NuZe> Memory : 8 Go 1067 MHz DDR3
[10:05] <NuZe> it is enough to install ubuntu right ?
[10:06] <sacarlson2> with min 10gb disk space I guess
[10:06] <trijntje_> ducasse: getting the python matepackage is a good idea, I'll give it a go. Sorry for slow response, I missed your reaction
[10:07] <sacarlson2> NuZe: I haven't done a unetbootin install in a long time.  that's where you boot from ethernet and install?
[10:08] <ducasse> trijntje_: i _think_ that would help, but something else might also be b0rked... i could also be wrong ;)
[10:08] <NuZe> @sacarlson2 yes I partitioned my hard drive, the part reserved for Ubuntu to 90GB of memory.
[10:08] <sacarlson2> NuZe: more than enuf
[10:09] <NuZe> @Sacarlson yes exactly
[10:09] <sacarlson2> NuZe: has it worked before on other systems?
[10:19] <trijntje_> After upgrading to 16.04 python depends on python-minimal (version 2.7.5-ubuntu3), but it wants to install 2.7.11. So it won't continue the upgrade and I'm stuck with a broken system. Any hints on how to solve this?
[10:19] <NetworkFreak> cocks
[10:19] <NetworkFreak> pussies
[10:19] <trijntje_> it must be nice to have so much free time
[10:19] <hina> :P
[10:19] <haasn> Is Ubuntu planning on porting more of the /etc/init.d scripts to systemd .service files? I noticed many services are run through the init.d<->systemd bridge even where the upstream projects already contain systemd unit files
[10:26] <gahan> k1l: thanks. it seems like `sudo apt-get purge --auto-remove systemd` will remove systemd and install upstart-sysv. am I likely to encounter problems? I looked at grub.cfg and it there isn't an option for upstart
[10:28] <Jack078> Hi
[10:29] <iamkiran> Hello world!
[10:30] <iamkiran> I got a problem while start mysql in ubuntu. Here is the snippet: http://paste.ubuntu.com/20021863/
[10:30] <iamkiran> Anyone free to help.Thnx in advance
[10:32] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: looks like you forgot your password
[10:32] <anonymos> helllo world us ubuntu
[10:32] <iamkiran> i am entering correct password
[10:32] <iamkiran> sacarison2: i am entering root password
[10:33] <sla3k> password is being used (using password: YES) but it is incorrect! maybe it's not for the user 'root'
[10:33] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: root password of the system is not the same as root password of mysql
[10:34] <anonymos> hello i hacking password unbuntu windows 7
[10:34] <anonymos> password linux root pass"toor"/
[10:35] <iamkiran> sacarison2: mysql password is same as my root password
[10:35] <YankDownUnder> anonymos: Is there a problem you require assistance with?
[10:35] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: that my or my not be true depending on how you set it
[10:36] <Si> hi
[10:36] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: have you ever logged in on this mysql system before?
[10:37] <iamkiran> sacarison2: Nope, I got this error after intalling it.
[10:37] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: ok
[10:37] <YankDownUnder> iamkiran: So you've just installed it - and that's that? Nothing more nothing less?
[10:38] <iamkiran> yup I install it and then this error when try to logged in?
[10:39] <YankDownUnder> iamkiran: Here's something to quickly read: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-install-mysql-on-ubuntu-linux-16-04/
[10:39] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: I think the default root password for mysql is no password at all or blank
[10:40] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: oh ya when you install it, it asks you what you want the password to be but if you just push ok the password is blank
[10:41] <iamkiran> sacarison2: How can I change no password or blank?
[10:41] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: you first login with root and no password and then change it
[10:42] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: other option is to uninstall it and install it again and this time be sure to remember what you set the password to be
[10:42] <YankDownUnder> iamkiran: $ mysql -u root -p
[10:42] <sacarlson2> ya like that
[10:43] <YankDownUnder> iamkiran: Here's some GUI tools... http://www.ubuntugeek.com/mysql-server-administration-tools.html
[10:44] <iamkiran> http://paste.ubuntu.com/20022873/   when trying to login using no password
[10:44] <iamkiran> sacarison2: I have tried uninstall and again installing it multiple times.
[10:44] <iamkiran> But does not work?
[10:45] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: then you do remember what you put in those boxes at install time?
[10:46] <iamkiran> Ya, I remember it? It's the same password?
[10:46] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: and install went without error?
[10:47] <iamkiran> sacarison2: I got no error while installing?
[10:47] <iamkiran> I want to remove mysql completely from my computer and then re-install it?
[10:47] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: yes the username and password should match and you sure you used root as your username?
[10:47] <iamkiran> But every time it uses cached version.
[10:48] <mikatone> Hi need some help on how to flush ufw rules on a rescue mode VPS that outputs strange behavior after chroot the filesystem and ufw disable https://gist.github.com/anonymous/725af5cd0a70cb6b8c96d0cb856c7847
[10:48] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: do apt-get purge mysql
[10:48] <sacarlson2> it should get rid of the original passwords
[10:50] <iamkiran> sacarison2: I am getting error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/20023286/
[10:50] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: sorry what is the package you installed
[10:50] <sacarlson2> do it to that
[10:52] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: I'm guessing  mysql-server  mysql-common
[10:52] <sacarlson2> purge those
[10:52] <iamkiran> ya mysql-server
[10:53] <sacarlson2> yes that too
[10:53] <sacarlson2> purge it
[10:53] <Terrrrr> Hey, my password works to sign in to my xubuntu account, it also works to unlock my account if i lock it. However, the password doesnt work in terminal.... any ideaa?
[10:54] <iamkiran> sacarison2: I have done: apt-get purge mysql-*
[10:54] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: not wise to use *
[10:54] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: it can cause major damage as we learned yestarday
[10:55] <iamkiran> sacarison2: I think this should remove everything related to everything.
[10:55] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: true but sometimes removes more than you know
[10:55] <Mir4g3> Terrrrr: did you tried do login with the right mysql pass? Like "mysql -u root -p" and then type your password for mysql root user?
[10:55] <Terrrrr> Ill try
[10:56] <Terrrrr> I was just doing sudo apt-get update and obv it asked for pass
[10:56] <Terrrrr> Restarted computer a few times, same thing
[10:56] <iamkiran> sacarison2: After, do I have to run apt-get autoremove
[10:56] <sacarlson2> ok
[10:57] <Terrrrr> Ots a fresh install, cant even get mysql because apt-get requires password
[10:57] <Terrrrr> Yet pass works to login,to comp account
[11:00] <Terrrrr> Is my keyboard layout possobly screwed?
[11:00] <sacarlson2> Terrrrr: caps lock maybe?
[11:01] <Terrrrr> Nope this is weird
[11:01] <Terrrrr> Im even copyong and pasting it from notepad
[11:03] <Terrrrr> Is that eeven possible
[11:05] <Terrrrr> Fresh installed. Logged in. Successfully ran "sudo ufw enable" with pass in terminal. Updated through Software Updator. Restarted computer, pass only works for logging into user accout. Pass does not work in terminal nor Software app. Pass basically only works to sign in, but nothing else while signed in.
[11:05] <Tone> hi
[11:06] <Terrrrr> Probably tenth linux install, first problem like this
[11:07] <anonymos> hello
[11:07] <mendji> hello
[11:07] <YankDownUnder> Terrrrr: Bluetooth/wireless keyboard and mouse?
[11:08] <Terrrrr> Both wired
[11:08] <Terrrrr> Possibly keyboard layoiut?
[11:08] <YankDownUnder> Terrrrr: Right oh. Just wondering. Because that is all very strange.
[11:08] <Terrrrr> Yeah im stumped
[11:08] <iamkiran> sacarison2: I have to reinstall mysql after that? But I think it will use cached version while installing?
[11:08] <YankDownUnder> Terrrrr: That I'm not sure of - however, if you go into the control centre and double check, well, then you'll know, hmm?
[11:09] <Terrrrr> Hmmmm
[11:10] <trijntje_> After upgrading to 16.04 python depends on python-minimal (version 2.7.5-ubuntu3), but it wants to install 2.7.11. So it won't continue the upgrade and I'm stuck with a broken system. Any hints on how to solve this?
[11:11] <iamkiran> sacarlson2: I think reinstalling will install cached version.
[11:12] <Terrrrr> YankDownUnder can you twll me your keyboard layout. Sertings, Keyboard, Layout
[11:12] <YankDownUnder> Terrrrr: Mine is US
[11:12] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: after purge it should require asking for the passwords again I would think
[11:13] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: I assume you used apt-get purge
[11:13] <iamkiran> sacalson2: Ya , I used apt-get purge
[11:14] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: so did you try install it now?
[11:14] <iamkiran> sacarlson2: It removed mysql.
[11:14] <sacarlson2> well now install it
[11:14] <minimec> trijntje_: Can you try to refresh the repository datase again? 'sudo apt-get update'...
[11:15] <iamkiran> sacarlson2: I am running 'apt-get upgrade'. Then, I will start installing.
[11:15] <sacarlson2> oh bad move in my opinion
[11:16] <sacarlson2> probly will take 10 hours
[11:17] <iamkiran> sacarlson2: I guess so,
[11:17] <iamkiran> my bad
[11:18] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: and if you didn't already notice 95% of the people in here are here after upgrade problems
[11:18] <iamkiran> sacarlson2: I run 'apt install mysql-server mysql-client'
[11:19] <iamkiran> n is downloading
[11:19] <Terrrrr> Yankdownunder maybe something to do with terminal encoding? Kinda a noob
[11:19] <iamkiran> sacarlson2: It didn't asked to enter password or something
[11:20] <Terrrrr> Looking at terminal tab
[11:20] <yossarianuk> hi - this database breach - is it the login for https://login.ubuntu.com/ that has been hacked ?
[11:20] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: dam well hack it then.  there are ways to change the root password in mysql
[11:20] <sacarlson2> I'll find the link
[11:21] <iamkiran> sacarlson2: And same problem, as before
[11:21] <iamkiran> sacarlson2: thnx man
[11:23] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: mysqladmin password your-new-root-password
[11:23] <yossarianuk> i.e - the forum that was hacked - should I change the login.ubuntu.com SSO login ?
[11:23] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: not sure we have to install that mysqladmin or not
[11:23] <sacarlson2> opps wait that won't work
[11:24] <iamkiran> sacarlson2: I tried it before.
[11:24] <trijntje_> minimec: It does look for xenial, but running sudo apt-get upgrade after gives the same dependency error
[11:24] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: ok what did it do?
[11:25] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: sounds like it should work mysqladmin -u root password your-new-root-password
[11:26] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: seems the app is already installed on my system
[11:26] <minimec> trijntje_: Yeah. It seems that your 'python' package is still on trusty. I would try 'sudo apt-get install -reinstall python'. Next step would be to remove the python package from /var/cache/apt/archives.
[11:28] <minimec> trijntje_: it's '--reinstall' not '-reninstall'. That should force the redownload of the package i think.
[11:28] <iamkiran1> sacarlson2: I am getting this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/20025925/
[11:28] <Terrrrr> Sorry know i said this, gonna try one more time
[11:29] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: oh it seems mysql server is not running
[11:29] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: so we will have to restart it
[11:30] <trijntje_> minimec: I've remove the entire cache, and I still get the same error
[11:30] <Terrrrr> I just freshly installed and updated Xubuntu. I can log in log out, lock and unlock my account no problem with my password. BUT my password doesnt work for anything while logged in. Doesnt work for terminal nor the software center. But again, i can log in and out fine.
[11:30] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: and you are on ubuntu version?
[11:30] <iamkiran> sacarlson2: ok I am restart it
[11:30] <iamkiran> sacarlson2: I am using Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[11:30] <sacarlson2> ok
[11:30] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: I think they changed restart at this point
[11:31] <minimec> trijntje_: Hmm... Can I see your sources.list? 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit'
[11:32] <iamkiran> sacarlson2: I used sudo service mysql restart. But then run mysqladmin but nothing happen.
[11:33] <trijntje_> minimec: I dont have pastebinit on that system. But it has sources for xenial and points to archive.ubuntu.com. It was pointing to a local mirror but I just changed that
[11:33] <trijntje_> local mirror = for my country, not something on my LAN
[11:34] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: and restart showed no errors?
[11:34] <iamkiran> sacarlson2: no any error and no any output too
[11:34] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: that's because they now use systemctl
[11:35] <sacarlson2> in 16.04
[11:35] <sacarlson2> I think
[11:35] <minimec> trijntje_: 'dpkg -s python'? Did you put the python package on 'hold' in 14.04? What if we just downloaded 'python 2.7.11-1' and 'dpkg -i' it (just to make that update work)? It's not a 'good' solution but might work.
[11:36] <oezsoy> hi im bored
[11:36] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: might this work?  sudo systemctl enable mysql.service
[11:36] <oezsoy> anybody try lubuntu
[11:36] <oezsoy> ?
[11:36] <sacarlson2> oezsoy: yes fine product
[11:37] <oezsoy> im using xubuntu xfce
[11:37] <oezsoy> whichone faster
[11:37] <oezsoy> ?
[11:37] <its100best> I love gnome 3.20
[11:38] <oezsoy> xubuntu or lubuntu can anyone help me?
[11:38] <iamkiran> sacarlson2: I run that command and it says *Synchronizing state of mysql.service with SysV init with /lib/systemd/systemd-sysv-install...
[11:38] <iamkiran> Executing /lib/systemd/systemd-sysv-install enable mysql
[11:38] <iamkiran> *
[11:38] <laserbeak4445> there both lightweight DE so there should not be a huge difference.
[11:39] <oezsoy> thnks laserbeak
[11:39] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: ok try login now or try sudo netstat -pant | grep mysql
[11:39] <laserbeak4445> but Lubuntu is the lightest
[11:39] <oezsoy> more than faster
[11:39] <oezsoy> right?
[11:40] <oezsoy> last question
[11:40] <oezsoy> why firefox so bad?
[11:40] <oezsoy> in linux
[11:40] <iamkiran> sacarlson2: sudo netstat -pant | grep mysql
[11:40] <iamkiran> tcp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:3306          <IP_ADDRESS>:*               LISTEN      5524/mysqld
[11:40] <trijntje_> minimec: dpkg -s shows python 2.7.5-ubuntu3
[11:40] <rory> Begs the question really. You should be more specific oezsoy
[11:41] <minimec> trijntje_: I remember something now. With 16.04 you should be able to install local packages with 'apt'. It will trigger the dependencies from the repo. So downloading and installing the xenial package should work.
[11:41] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: cool then it is now running so can you now login?
[11:41] <oezsoy> firefox too slow
[11:41] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: or I should say change password
[11:42] <iamkiran> sacarlson2: Can we change password using mysqladmin
[11:42] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: this should now work: mysqladmin password your-new-root-password
[11:42] <sacarlson2> yes
[11:42] <trijntje_> minimec: manually installing python with dpkg -i gives a similar error, python pre-depends on python-minimal
[11:43] <yossarianuk> laserbeak4445: bodhi is even more lightweight (and still a full desktop - unlike say openbox)
[11:43] <minimec> trijntje_: so 'sudo apt install python_2.7.11-1_amd64.deb' in the folder where you downloaded the package should work.
[11:43] <yossarianuk> oezsoy: its not bas in Linux, its bad in unity - fine in KDE for example
[11:43] <yossarianuk> *bad*
[11:43] <oezsoy> i have some problems  ihave ati hd 8250 graphic driver why ubuntu 16.04 cant support catalysis ?
[11:43] <its100best> oezsoy, try '(Web) epiphany' I use it on Arch.
[11:44] <oezsoy> thnx its100best
[11:45] <oezsoy> i will try
[11:45] <oezsoy> i can install ati drivers on ubuntu 14.04
[11:46] <oezsoy> but icant install ubuntu 16.04
[11:46] <trijntje_> minimec: sudo apt install also doesn't work, same dependency problem for ubuntu-minimal
[11:46] <trijntje_> *python-minimal
[11:47] <oezsoy> can anyone install ati graphic driver on ubuntu 16.04?
[11:47] <iamkiran> sacarlson2: I am getting the same error: mysqladmin -u root password 1234@Ktm
[11:47] <iamkiran> mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[11:47] <iamkiran> error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'
[11:49] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: take the @ out of your password
[11:50] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: and this mysql server is local or remote?
[11:51] <minimec> trijntje_: Wow... Hmmm.. ppa as are disabled during upgrade. So you should not have an activated ppa that blocks something, right? You don't have any packages on 'hold', right? Try 'sudo apt install --reinstall python-minimal python'. Somehow out of ideas...
[11:51] <HoloIRCUser2> Bhagwaan kaise mileage?
[11:51] <iamkiran> sacarlson2: mysql server is local
[11:51] <test_> hi can anyone help me with wifite
[11:51] <oezsoy> aranızda türk varmı hacılar
[11:51] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: ok
[11:51] <HoloIRCUser2> *milenge
[11:52] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: and what happens without @ like mysqladmin -u rood password 1234
[11:53] <HoloIRCUser2> Kisi ko Pta h?
[11:53] <test_> hi plz im new and trying to get wifite to work
[11:53] <minimec> trijntje_: maybe ad python2.7 to that --reinstall command...
[11:53] <iamkiran> sacarlson2: mysqladmin -u root password 1234Ktm
[11:53] <iamkiran> mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[11:53] <iamkiran> error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'
[11:53] <iamkiran> same error
[11:54] <test_> is anyone there ?
[11:55] <rory> hi test_ can you describe what you're trying to do and what's not working?
[11:55] <HoloIRCUser2> Bhagwaan kaise milenge?
[11:55] <HoloIRCUser2> Kisi.
[11:55] <HoloIRCUser2> Kisi ko Pta h?
[11:55] <test_> hi rory i can get wifite to run it scans the network and capturs the handshace then says no wps dic file found
[11:56] <rory> HoloIRCUser2: try #ubuntu-in
[11:56] <rory> test_: That sounds like it's expecting you to provide a wordlist file for dictionary attack.
[11:56] <trijntje_> minimec: still no, I'm afraid. Maybe I should do a fresh install, I was hoping it just a matter of getting the right apt command
[11:57] <test_> yes ive got thr rock you test
[11:57] <test_> text
[11:57] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: we are still running now : sudo netstat -pant | grep mysql  ;   I think we are
[11:57] <rory> What is the exact error message test_ ?
[11:57] <mcphail> iamkiran: is that even the correct syntax for the mysql command? I haven't used it in years, but that wouldn't have worked when I last tried
[11:58] <test_> rory  no WPA dictionary found! use -dict <file> command-line argument
[11:58] <iamkiran> sacarlson2: I ran it.
[11:58] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: at this point you might try #mysql  as I'm out of idea why that won't work.  thing seemed to have changed in 16.04 that I have not seen
[11:58] <mcphail> iamkiran: for example, you'd need "--password=password" or "-ppassword"
[11:58] <rory> test_: Did you try specifying -dict /path/to/rockyou.txt ?
[11:58] <test_> no how would i do that
[11:59] <test_> its in my download folder
[11:59] <rory> test_: What full command are you running please
[11:59] <iamkiran> mcphail: what's the full command?
[11:59] <rory> test_: -dic ~/Downloads/rockyou.txt
[11:59] <test_> rory i run wifite as root do the scan and capture the handshake
[11:59] <rory> test_: as an extra argument to what you're already running
[11:59] <minimec> trijntje_: It should be like that. I would give it another chance here in the #room. By the way. I think pastebinit is now installed per default. I don't remember having it installed on the 16.04 installation and I have it. I would be interested in the error messages you get and the sources.list. Also you should have a new downloaded python and python 2.7 package in /var/cahe/apt. What versions are these?
[11:59] <rory> test_: then it's -dic /home/your_username/Downloads/rockyou.txt
[12:00] <mcphail> iamkiran: try "mysql -u root --password=yourpassword"
[12:00] <iamkiran> sacarlson2: ok, I entereing in root mode.
[12:00] <test_> command not found
[12:00] <rory> test_: often, as in this case, the error message tells you exactly what to do, I can't really give any more precise instructions than what's already there
[12:00] <test_> ok thank you very much rory
[12:00] <minimec> trijntje_: We could also try to locally download the new version of 'python-minimal'
[12:01] <rory> test_: What is the full command you're running please? Tat will include "wifite.py"
[12:01] <mcphail> iamkiran: "man mysql" is _very_clear about the syntax
[12:01] <sacarlson2> mcphail: it seems to me that mysqladmin won't even connect to his localhost,  I'm not sure why
[12:01] <iamkiran> mcphail: mysql -u root --password=yourpassword is login command
[12:02] <test_> i open termian type sudo -i to root then just type wifite and it opens
[12:02] <rory> OK so instead of just typing "wifite"
[12:02] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: oh so now you login ok?
[12:02] <mcphail> iamkiran: aah - you're using mysqladmin?
[12:02] <rory> you need to type "wifite -dict /home/your_username/Downloads/rockyou.txt"
[12:02] <rory> or wherever rockyou.txt actually is
[12:02] <iamkiran> sacarlson2: nope, not logged int
[12:02] <iamkiran> in
[12:03] <trijntje_> minimec: I've aready tried getting the latest python and python-minimal debs using wget, those dont install either :(. Ill trypastebinit soon, after its done running apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:03] <iamkiran> mcphail: I want mysqladmin to change password of mysql.
[12:03] <mcphail> iamkiran: how did you install mysqladmin?
[12:03] <sacarlson2> mcphail yes were trying to reset iamkiran's  password for root with mysqladmin,
[12:04] <iamkiran> mcphail: I think , mysqladmin is already installed.
[12:04] <rory> It's not really for me to say, but frankly if you can't figure it out you probably don't deserve to get onto whatever wireless network you're trying to get into :D
[12:04] <sacarlson2> mcphail: oh it might be from his old install before upgread for this mysqladmin
[12:04] <rory> I have to work now afk
[12:06] <sacarlson2> mcphail: as far as I can tell iamkiran's mysql server is running as we see the port active in netstat
[12:06] <mcphail> iamkiran: and does your password have special characters?
[12:07] <sacarlson2> mcphail: it seems he had an @ in his password
[12:07] <iamkiran> sacarlson2: mysql server is running but don't have any idea why not login
[12:07] <iamkiran> mcphail: ya , password contain special character
[12:08] <mcphail> iamkiran: does mysqladmin --user=root password "my password with funny ch@racter$" work?
[12:09] <tatertots> good morning everyone
[12:10] <iamkiran> mcphail: mysqladmin --user=root password "1234@Ktm"
[12:10] <iamkiran> mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[12:10] <iamkiran> error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'
[12:10] <iamkiran> It didn't work for me.
[12:10] <Guest68185> sorry rory when i open wifite internet gopes off
[12:10] <trijntje_> minimec: no pastebinit, maybebecause this was a 14.04 install. /var/cache/apt/archives has python 2.7.11-1
[12:11] <minimec> trijntje_: Ok. did dist-upgrade do something?
[12:11] <mcphail> iamkiran: and if you try with a password, ie. mysqladmin --user=root --password=existingpaswword password "jkhkhJK"?
[12:13] <Guest68185> any one plz help me with wifite
[12:13] <minimec> trijntje_: I found a forum thread treating a 16.04 python-minimal upgrade problem but with a different error. maybe still worth a read https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2321861
[12:13] <iamkiran> mcphail: mysqladmin --user=root password="1234@Ktm" password "1234Ktm"
[12:13] <iamkiran> mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[12:13] <iamkiran> error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'
[12:13] <iamkiran> mcphai: I am getting this error.
[12:14] <draco__> what is mysqladmin ? it shuould be mysql -u root -p
[12:14] <tatertots> Guest68185 do you plan to change anything so when you run wifite your 'internet' doesn't go off?
[12:14] <draco__> and don't time your pass in command!
[12:14] <draco__> use -p and give it latter
[12:14] <draco__> using pass in command saves it in logs
[12:14] <minimec> trijntje_: What if we just purged python and then 'sudo apt install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop' or 'dpkg-reconfigure ubuntu-desktop'? Still better than a fresh installation.
[12:15] <mcphail> iamkiran: no, that isn't what I asked you to type
[12:15] <tatertots> or are you going to leave things the way they are ?
[12:15] <Guest68185> tatertots i dont know how to do that i can run wifite get the handshake but no wpa dic file
[12:15] <HerbY_NL2> Hello, I have a new installation of ubuntu gnome 16.04. When I press alt left or alt right my session is locked and I find myself on tty1. Google doesn't have the answer. Anyone here?
[12:16] <iamkiran> mcphail: mysqladmin --user=root --password="1234@Ktm" password "1234Ktm"
[12:16] <iamkiran> mysqladmin: [Warning] Using a password on the command line interface can be insecure.
[12:16] <iamkiran> mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[12:16] <iamkiran> error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)'
[12:16] <mcphail> iamkiran: ha! progress ;)
[12:17] <mcphail> iamkiran: you may have mixed up your old and new passwords
[12:17] <iamkiran> mcphail: ya, now getting 3 line error
[12:17] <Guest68185> no WPA dictionary found! use -dict <file> command-line argument   with wifite >?
[12:17] <iamkiran> mcphail: I try to completely uninstall mysql. I purge it.
[12:18] <tatertots> Guest68185 have you had very much networking experience?
[12:18] <mcphail> iamkiran: what is your existing password? is it 1234@Ktm or 1234Ktm?
[12:18] <Guest68185> tatertots no im new to ubuntu
[12:18] <iamkiran> mcphail: 1234@Ktm is the actual password
[12:19] <tatertots> Guest68185 have you had very much networking experience?...Being new to ubuntu isn't what i asked...i know ccnp's that have never used ubuntu
[12:20] <Guest68185> no networkin experiance no
[12:20] <mcphail> iamkiran: OK, try mysqadmin --user=root -p password "mynewpassword"
[12:20] <mcphail> *mysqladmin
[12:22] <tatertots> ah i see
[12:22] <iamkiran> mcphail: Nope, it didn't work.
[12:22] <Guest68185> tatertots anty sduggestion
[12:22] <iamkiran> mcphail: mysqladmin --user=root -p password "1234@Ktm"
[12:22] <iamkiran> Enter password:
[12:22] <iamkiran> mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[12:22] <iamkiran> error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)'
[12:22] <mcphail> iamkiran: did you get a prompt for a password?
[12:23] <iamkiran> mcphail: ya, i got prompt for password
[12:23] <trijntje_> minimec: I cant purge anything either, dependency problems
[12:24] <mcphail> iamkiran: and you're sure you have the correct password for root?
[12:24] <tatertots> you mentioned losing connectivity when you ran a particular command...could you take a guess at why that happened? i'm going to refill my coffee while you think about that for a second
[12:24] <iamkiran> mcphail: ya, i entered correct password
[12:25] <mcphail> iamkiran: and "mysql -u root --password=yourpassword" allows you to log in?
[12:26] <Guest68185> tatertos when i run wifite my wifi icon disapers and i have to restar my computer to get it on again
[12:26] <computer1> people anyone knows how to use xmgrace? how can i draw a scatter plot?
[12:27] <iamkiran> mcphail: mysql -u root --password='1234@Ktm'
[12:27] <iamkiran> mysql: [Warning] Using a password on the command line interface can be insecure.
[12:27] <iamkiran> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[12:28] <minimec> trijntje_: Hmmm... You need some help from a 'master' here on #ubuntu. I think it's worth to investigate, because 'upgrade leading to a broken package system' is heavy. I mean it's the nightmare situation...
[12:29] <trijntje_> minimec: So far, I've only had a 33% success rate with upgrading14.04 to 16.04 :)
[12:29] <mcphail> iamkiran: ok, you're going to have to check the logs or your config. My guess is you've either set up the wrong password or you've configureed mysql in such a way as to deny logins
[12:30] <roman> hi}
[12:30] <iamkiran> mcphail: ok, I really appreaciate your help. Thnx
[12:30] <tatertots> i'm back
[12:31] <tatertots> Guest do you have a particular guide you are following?
[12:32] <minimec> trijntje_: Yeah... I hear bad about 16.04 upgrades. I did a fresh install and did not touch any 14.04 installations for upgrade unitl now.
[12:32] <Guest68185> https://www.blackmoreops.com/2014/03/27/cracking-wpa-wpa2-with-hashcat-kali-linux/2/
[12:33] <minimec> @all we need some help by a 'package system master'. We have 14.04-16.04 upgrade situation where python is still on the 14.04 trusty version and breaks the package system. trijntje_ and me would be happy to get a hint.
[12:33] <computer1> people anyone knows how to use xmgrace? how can i draw a scatter plot?
[12:33] <mcphail> iamkiran: you can try resetting the root password, if you wish
[12:33] <trijntje_> minimec: this time ligthdm crashed during the upgrade, I think thats why the upgrade halted half way and why it is in such a weird state
[12:33] <trijntje_> minimec: more people should do iso image testing
[12:34] <iamkiran> mcphail: I will try to reset password.
[12:34] <minimec> trijntje_: more people should do 'do-release-upgrade' testing...
[12:34] <mcphail> iamkiran: you need to shut down the mysql daemon then run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-whateveryourversionnumbermaybe"
[12:35] <acovrig> I have a fresh install of 16.04 server and get nothing on the display on boot unless I remove $vt_handoff from grub on boot, what is a good permanent solution for this? /etc/grub.d/10_linux?
[12:38] <computer1> people anyone knows how to use xmgrace? how can i draw a scatter plot?
[12:39] <iamkiran> mcphail: I recofigure, but after then when I try to login, it denied.
[12:40] <Guest57443> hi, i'm trying to upgrade from ubuntu 14.04 to 16.04. if in the software updater i select 'notify for any new version' i get a suggestion to upgrade to 15.10, if i select 'LTS only' no option is proposed.
[12:41] <Guest57443> is there a way to upgrade directly to 16.04 ?
[12:41] <k1l> !ltsupgrade | Guest57443
[12:41] <Myrtti> Guest57443: wait a few more days, profit.
[12:41] <Guest57443> thanks
[12:41] <k1l> your only chance is to use the developer upgrade path if you want it now.
[12:41] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: I think I found what was missing to recover root password here: https://www.howtoforge.com/setting-changing-resetting-mysql-root-passwords
[12:41] <mcphail> iamkiran: well, you're getting well beyond my knowledge (or memory...) I'm afraid. I'd guess something is wrong in your configuration, but I don't know how to proceed from here. Rememebr to check the mysql logs under /var/log, where you may get a hint. I think you're going to have to ask in a mysql channel
[12:41] <Guest68185> thank you tatertots il keep looking and trying
[12:42] <mcphail> iamkiran: what was the exact command you entered for dpkg-reconfigure, by the way?
[12:43] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: it requires shutting down mysql server then bringing up in safe mode with: mysqld_safe --skip-grant-tables,  I haven't tested it but sounds it should work see link for details
[12:43] <iamkiran> mcphail: sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server
[12:43] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: that might also work
[12:44] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: and maybe an easier solution that what I just sent you
[12:44] <iamkiran> sacarkson2: I tried before, It no password column availble.
[12:44] <mcphail> iamkiran: no, you need mysql-server-numericalversionnumber to work
[12:45] <mcphail> iamkiran: type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-" then press "tab" to see the options
[12:46] <sacarlson2> mcphail: oh tab that might be what iamkiran was missing
[12:46] <mcphail> iamkiran: if you select the correct thing, you will get a prompt to set up a password
[12:47] <iamkiran> mcphail: sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.7
[12:47] <iamkiran> AppArmor parser error for /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.mysqld in /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.mysqld at line 9: Could not open 'abstractions/mysql'
[12:47] <iamkiran> Checking if update is needed.
[12:47] <iamkiran> This installation of MySQL is already upgraded to 5.7.12, use --force if you still need to run mysql_upgrade
[12:47] <computer1> people anyone knows how to use xmgrace? how can i draw a scatter plot?
[12:48] <iamkiran> mcphail: But still seems no working
[12:49] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: so did you say you already tried this: mysqld_safe --skip-grant-tables  with precursor of the above link?
[12:49] <k1l> computer1: i guess the project got a howto or other documentation on their website
[12:50] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: that is suposed to bring up mysql with no password for root
[12:50] <iamkiran> sacarlson2: ya, I already tried that one.
[12:50] <iamkiran> sacarlson2: ya but the problem come when setting new password for root user.
[12:51] <sacarlson2> iamkiran: but at that time your using wird caricters
[12:51] <mcphail> iamkiran: this time, I am completely out of ideas ;)
[12:51] <computer1> k1l: i cannot find it, and i cannot find anything related to a scatter plot. been at it for 2 hours
[12:52] <iamkiran> mcphail: ok, no problem.
[12:52] <k1l> computer1: http://plasma-gate.weizmann.ac.il/Grace/doc/UsersGuide.html
[12:52] <sacarlson2> mcphail: what do you think of the mysqld_safe --skip-grant-tables  idea?
[12:52] <ioria> !info grace
[12:52] <iamkiran> mcphail: I really appreaciate your help.
[12:52] <sacarlson2> mcphail: at this point he can't even login as root
[12:52] <mcphail> sacarlson2: I'm afraid I don't knwo anything about that
[12:52] <mcphail> sacarlson2: the dpkg-reconfigure thing always let me change root password in the past
[12:53] <sacarlson2> nor do I just read the google link
[12:53] <mcphail> iamkiran: good luck
[12:53] <iamkiran> mcphail: thnx
[12:53] <mcphail> sacarlson2: I'm always reticent to recommend anything I haven't tried myself
[12:53] <computer1> k1l: i don't get it, they wrote scatter or line plot, are they assuming it is the same thing?
[12:53] <sacarlson2> mcphail: oh ok ya I think it's always worked for me too.  maybe a change in 16.04
[12:53] <b3h3m0th> what is the procedure for installing docker on ubuntu 16.04 Server
[12:53] <b3h3m0th> ?
[12:54] <sacarlson2> mcphail: ya and in this case It would require I bring down my site just to test it and I don't want to do that
[12:54] <k1l> computer1: its just how the data is printed into the plot.
[12:55] <iamkiran> sacarlson2: Thnx man, i really appreciate your help. I have to go now.
[12:55] <computer1> k1l: i have a data set that i want to plot as just dots, no lines
[12:55] <computer1> k1l: like this https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/af/Scatter_diagram_for_quality_characteristic_XXX.svg/250px-Scatter_diagram_for_quality_characteristic_XXX.svg.png
[12:57] <Jack078> Hi
[12:57] <ducasse> trijntje_: still no luck? sorry, i've been afk.
[12:58] <trijntje_> ducasse: no luck. And I dont think I've ever even installed something from outside the repo on this system
[12:59] <ducasse> trijntje_: can you pastebin the output from a dist-upgrade for example? i'd like a closer look.
[13:02] <trijntje_> ducasse: I dont have pastebinit, and I cant install it due to the dependency problem
[13:03] <ducasse> trijntje_: oh, what fun :) ok, what did the manual install of python say?
[13:03] <trijntje_> ducasse:$sudo apt-get dist-upgrade The following packages have unment dependencies:
[13:03] <trijntje_> python: Depends: python-minimal (=2.7.5-5ubuntu3 but 2.7.11-1 is installed
[13:05] <trijntje_> ducasse: maybe I should install the lower version of python minimal to try to resume the upgrade?
[13:06] <ducasse> trijntje_: i'm not sure, looks like the upgrade left your system in a seriously broken state. you might want to consider if a fresh install is simply faster.
[13:07] <trijntje_> ducasse: ducasse yeah, I'm running a backup of home now as well. dpkg -i older-python did resolve that dependecy issue, 7 more to go
[13:07] <trijntje_> hmm, the rest of the errors are for dependencies that are not installable
[13:08] <ducasse> trijntje_: you can keep manually installing packages, but that might simply reveal more problems.
[13:09] <ducasse> trijntje_: i'm not sure you would end up with a consistent system in less time than a reinstall would take.
[13:10] <trijntje_> ducasse: you're probably right, I'll just mess about untill the backup is done and reinstall anyways
[13:10] <trijntje_> cant wait for snap packages ;)
[13:10] <ducasse> trijntje_: you can use 'nc termbin.com 9999' instead of pastebinit so i can take a look, though.
[13:11] <kylogger1234> online
[13:13] <trijntje_> ducasse: I installed python-minimal2.7.5, used apt-mark to put it on hold, and ran sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, and its still running. So who knows
[13:13] <trijntje_> minimec: ^^ fingers crossed
[13:13] <ducasse> trijntje_: well, hope for the best :)
[13:15] <ShotokanZH> hi evryone
[13:16] <ShotokanZH> i installed i3 today (apt install i3) and tested it in xubuntu 16.04
[13:16] <ShotokanZH> decided i didn't like it and went back to xfce
[13:16] <ShotokanZH> >but
[13:17] <minimec> trijntje_: ducasse: Yeah... fingers crossed... By the way. I have to note down that 'nc termbin.com 9999' command. It could 'save lifes'...
[13:17] <computer1> k1l: like this https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/af/Scatter_diagram_for_quality_characteristic_XXX.svg/250px-Scatter_diagram_for_quality_characteristic_XXX.svg.png
[13:17] <test> wifite help plz
[13:17] <ShotokanZH> now the sound indicator (the bar that appears when you raise-lower the volume) it's missing, and in it's place i now have a blue bar with written in: "Volume is at 10%"
[13:18] <ducasse> trijntje_: yes, nc is installed by default. is it still running?
[13:18] <ShotokanZH> phil, you should ask in #kalilinux or something like that
[13:18] <phil1985> any one had wfite working
[13:19] <ShotokanZH> phil1985, you need to have aircrack installed and working, and just launch wifite
[13:19] <phil1985> thank you
[13:19] <trijntje_> ducasse: yep, X crashed during the original upgrade, and I have no idea how far it got before that happened
[13:20] <computer1> k1l_: i can't beleive it, i cannot find any information about a scatter plot in xmgrace, anywhere!! do you recommend a better program?
[13:20] <phil1985> installing aircrack now
[13:20] <louis_> I'm running Xubuntu 14.04 and recently, my software updater fails to download the 112mb of updates I have to install. Is there any way to update my distro version through the terminal?
[13:21] <ducasse> trijntje_: ouch. too bad the upgrade doesn't run in a screen session if you're not connected via ssh. run it in screen/tmux next time :)
[13:21] <o> hi
[13:22] <trijntje_> ducasse: yeah, I'll remember that. I guess it's just bad luck, I know I used to just play shooters while doing a dist upgrade without any problems. ubuntu ftw ;)
[13:22] <ducasse> louis_: 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[13:23] <louis_> thanks
[13:23] <ronal> buenas
[13:24] <ronal> ubuntu en español?
[13:24] <ducasse> trijntje_: these things happen, let's just hope you can fix it.
[13:24] <ducasse> !es | ronal
[13:24] <ronal> #ubuntu-es
[13:24] <ronal> #ubuntu-es
[13:24] <Pici> ronal: escribe /join #ubuntu-es
[13:25] <ronal> Listo, gracias!
[13:25] <ronal> Thanks!
[13:33] <yanjb> ??
[13:40] <ronal> nadie responde en ubuntu-es
[13:40] <ronal> otra de habla hispana o latinoamericana?
[13:46] <jelly> hi, do the webupd8 people have an irc channel someplace?  I think their apt repo is misconfigured, no "NotAutomatic: yes" in Release makes Update Manager try to upgrade all the packages it can from there
[13:46] <jelly> this was observed on a xenial amd64 system.
[13:47] <mchelen2> jelly: probably best to contact via email or twitter
[13:56] <kyle__> How do you get network-manager NOT to try and connect to wifi on the login window?
[13:59] <master3> testing 101
[13:59] <kyle__> master3: what about testing?
[14:00] <master3> my connection @kyle
[14:00] <yossarianuk> kyle__: go to the profile
[14:01] <ducasse> kyle__: 'nmcli set wlan0 autoconnect no' maybe?
[14:01] <yossarianuk> kyle__: in tab 'general configuration' un-select  'automatically connect to this netowrk'
[14:01] <yossarianuk> (my way was via the gui rather than cli)
[14:02] <ducasse> yossarianuk: that will only work for that particular network
[14:02] <kyle__> yossarianuk: A) this is the login window, there is no profile there.  B) there are open aps close to me that crop up and disappear all the time.  That would require me doing that every morning for whatever ones are new.
[14:02] <kyle__> Sadly.
[14:03] <ducasse> kyle__: did you try my suggestion?
[14:04] <kyle__> ducasse: Must be a version differece.  It's complinianing about the syntax.
[14:05] <x-fak> hi
[14:05] <x-fak> https://bpaste.net/show/ffd514d026cc <-why sometimes updates needs to reboot and ask for it?
[14:05] <master3> hi x-fak
[14:05] <ducasse> kyle__: should be 'nmcli device set....', sorry
[14:05] <kyle__> x-fak: Because sometimes they are kernel-level, or base library level, and sometimes they aren't.
[14:05] <x-fak> can i get any more detail about the reason why i should reboot? Which update etc?
[14:06] <ducasse> kyle__: (i don't use nm, just reading the docs)
[14:06] <x-fak> kyle__ ok
[14:06] <yossarianuk> x-fak: normally it would be a kernel/glibc/nvidia-driver update
[14:08] <x-fak> yossarianuk , ok is there a way to know which update requires it on the command line?
[14:08] <ducasse> x-fak: look at /var/run/reboot-required.pkgs
[14:09] <ducasse> (iirc)
[14:09] <yossarianuk> x-fak: good question - i'm unsure
[14:09] <ronal> join #ubuntu-ve
[14:09] <ronal> join #ubuntu-ar
[14:09] <ronal> join #ubuntu-es
[14:09] <ducasse> ronal: try /join ...
[14:10] <x-fak> ducasse , thanks, on my system it's "network-manager"
[14:10] <ronal> yae ducasse ////////
[14:11] <ducasse> x-fak: in that case you could probably just restart that, but normally i would recommend rebooting when the system asks you to.
[14:12] <kyle__> Ugh.  NetworkManager was such a horrible idea.
[14:13] <x-fak> kyle__ , what do you mean?
[14:13] <kyle__> Thanks ducasse and yossarianuk!  I can't actually modify the connections (with my level of skill with nmcli), but I can at least delete them.
[14:14] <kyle__> x-fak: It's massively overcomplicated for no good reason.  Complications that arrise organically are one thing, they're good even. but complications in software that are just-because tend to be horrible.
[14:14] <ducasse> kyle__: you could try wicd?
[14:14] <kyle__> Managing all of your network settings in dbus and storing them in a DB are NOT good ideas.
[14:14] <x-fak> network-manager is it a GUI application? Because i'm on a server
[14:14] <kyle__> ducasse: I do that on my debian and other boxes.  I may start on this one.  I was trying to keep it pretty much stock since this is the one I use for work.
[14:15] <x-fak> i'll just remove this dumb application then
[14:15] <ducasse> kyle__: yes, but nm is ritually unclean.
[14:15] <ducasse> (i shouldn't have said that, apologies)
[14:16] <kyle__> x-fak: It's got two halves.  A back-end that you can somewhat configure using their command, and a front-end GUI.  All of the graphical/desktop variants of ubuntu, and Fedora for that matter, use it for GUI integration/ease-of-use
[14:16] <kyle__> ducasse: Yeah.
[14:16] <kyle__> x-fak: Don't remove it until you've really delved deep into the networking & why you would want it or not.  It's fun to willy-nilly change things, but if the box is for work... things can get dicey really quickly.
[14:17] <x-fak> kyle__ i guess i dont need this at all if i'm using this ubuntu as a server?
[14:18] <kyle__> x-fak: That's generally my opinon, but change things at your own risk.  Also, if you're on wireless, get comfortable with a non-network-manager /etc/network/interfaces.d/ config before removing it.
[14:19] <x-fak> kyle__ i'm on wired ethernet on this server
[14:19] <kyle__> Mkay.  THen you're probably fine removing it.
[14:20] <x-fak> kyle__ ok the config of thet network is done by flat config file into /etc/network/interfaces.d/
[14:20] <kyle__> x-fak: On server I don't believe it even activates/turns on unless you install some specific meta-packages.
[14:20] <master3> #quit
[14:20] <kyle__> master3: Use a forward slash, not a #.  /quit
[14:21] <master3> #quit
[14:21] <x-fak> kyle__ i've installed some bullshit package for window manager, because i've tried to use interactive logon on this machine
[14:21] <ducasse> x-fak: if an interface is managed by /e/n/i, then nm doesn't touch it unless explicitly told to.
[14:21] <kyle__> x-fak: Ahh.  THen maybe.
[14:23] <trijntje_> ducasse: sudo apt-get check gives no errors, I'm going to try to un-pin python-minimal and update that one as well
[14:24] <x-fak> ducasse , touch what? what is  /e/n/i ?
[14:24] <Pici> x-fak: /etc/network/interfaces
[14:25] <ducasse> trijntje_: wow! \o/ :)
[14:27] <x-fak> Pici oh, ok
[14:32] <trijntje_> ducasse, minimec : I've got my GUI back after a reboot. In the end, I had to download the old version of python-minimal, pin it using apt-mark hold, resume the upgrade, and then un-hold python-minimal and upgrade again ;)
[14:32] <trijntje_> thanks for your help
[14:32] <minimec> trijntje_: nice ;)
[14:33] <ducasse> trijntje_: great! glad you fixed it :)
[14:41] <Laurenceb> hi, how do I fix this bluetooth error?
[14:41] <Laurenceb>  Can't create RFCOMM TTY: Address already in use
[14:45] <beckettj> exit
[14:47] <asgharpolo> hi
[14:48] <asgharpolo> i am from iran and i cant download http://dl-ssl.google.com/android/repository/sysimg_x86_64-23_r03.zip with tor too, can you help me>
[14:48] <asgharpolo> ?
[14:51] <ioria> asgharpolo,     http://mirrors.neusoft.edu.cn/android/repository/sys-img/android/
[14:56] <sruli> how can i login with tty but NOT mount ecryptfs?
[15:00] <rach24py> can some one recommend a good ubuntu server hosting  service?
[15:02] <bumblefuzz> hi, I'm looking for an Ubuntu minimal ISO that isn't a netinstall. The ~40MB iso I've been able to find requires an internet connection to install. Is there an available Ubuntu ISO that has the absolute minimum number of packages installed?
[15:03] <OerHeks> bumblefuzz, no.
[15:03] <bumblefuzz> fantastic
[15:03] <OerHeks> the smallest iso needs a dvd or 2 gb usb
[15:13] <LJHSLDJHSDLJH> I don't know why on ubuntu my wireless connection fails and wireless card fails to detect the wireless network although it's confirmed available by other connected devices! sometimes it returns to normal using nmcli networking off|on , other times I have to restart the PC
[15:14] <sarkis> sounds like driver issue
[15:14] <davido_> you have to restart the pc? Or can you just restart the network-manager service?
[15:14] <LJHSLDJHSDLJH> I've logged lspci and dmesg before and after restart and both are identical
[15:14] <LJHSLDJHSDLJH> lsmod is different but I'm not sure what is what
[15:16] <alexarnaud> Dear all, I'm a blind person and I want to synchronize my iPhone with a Linux computer. Does someone of you have experience about that ?
[15:16] <alexarnaud> I've tried with Ubuntu 16.04 but the only result I have obtained was "The location could not be displayed" (in nautilus)
[15:17] <ducasse> bumblefuzz: try the server image, but it depends on what your definition of 'minimal' is.
[15:18] <ducasse> bumblefuzz: it will fit on a cd, though.
[15:18] <tatertots> Dear alexarnaud, by synchronize do you mean sync in the same context as apple does in the following article https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204599
[15:19] <xangua> alexarnaud: sync in what sense? You can get files and send, probably sync your music at most, Apple just doesn't like to get along
[15:19] <alexarnaud> tatertots, xanguaI meen syn photos, music and videos
[15:20] <alexarnaud> * I mean sync photos, videos and musics
[15:20] <ducasse> alexarnaud: i don't think that is doable.
[15:21] <alexarnaud> ducasse: It seems that it was or it is : http://www.libimobiledevice.org/
[15:21] <ducasse> alexarnaud: maybe music, but i doubt videos and photos. ios is very closed. libimobiledevice breaks often when ios is upgraded.
[15:21] <tatertots> Dear alexarnaud that would be 'Photos synced from a computer*' which is the 4th media type from the top on the article https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204599
[15:22] <xangua> alexarnaud: Ubuntu already comes with libimobiledevice, since 10.04, and every major iOS update it will break
[15:22] <ducasse> alexarnaud: in practise it doesn't work well. i gave away my ipad and bought an android device, which works much better.
[15:23] <alexarnaud> xangua: As I understand the avaiable release on 16.04 should again support iOs 9.3
[15:23] <tatertots> Dear alexarnaud the type of sync you are wanting to do requires your iphone and itunes
[15:24] <tatertots> this type of sync requires you stay in apples ecosphere...software ecosphere
[15:24] <xangua> alexarnaud: and support should break again with an iOS update, it's been like that since 2010
[15:24] <alexarnaud> ducasse: hmm, it seems you are right but it's not for me, it's for other users. Lots of blind persons have an iPhone because is better accessible for them than an Android device.
[15:25] <ducasse> alexarnaud: all i'm saying is that you will quickly become frustrated with it, as it doesn't work well for long.
[15:25] <tatertots> once you leave apple's software ecosphere things don't work the convenient, cute, fun, and easy way they are intended and designed by apple to work, outside of their software ecosphere
[15:25] <ducasse> alexarnaud: sorry, but that's just the truth.
[15:26] <tatertots> if you want convenient, cute, fun and easy it's best to stay inside of apples software ecosphere
[15:26] <alexarnaud> ducasse: OK, I think it's more safe for an iPhone user to stay on Windows.
[15:27] <ducasse> alexarnaud: it will be _hell_ for an inexperienced user, imo, as they will frequently face long, opaque error messages when it worked yesterday.
[15:29] <tatertots> maybe one day apple will make a official itunes for Linux...........hahahaha...that has as about the same odds of happening as winning the lotto
[15:29] <xangua> Better odds at lottery
[15:29] <ducasse> +1
[15:30] <tatertots> i got a little laugh out of even typing that
[15:34] <jstein> Hi, I wanted to upgrade an ubuntu system with separate partitions for / and /home. The old system had onle one user (id=1000) alice. I reinstalled from boot dvd, formatted / and defined the /home mountpoint in the menu. I have added a new user bob who got user ID 1001. I changed userid's in the passwd file and did an chmod bob:bob on bobs home and bobs ecrypt folder, same for alice. Now I can login as bob, but alice can not decrypt her old ecrypt
[15:34] <jstein> home.
[15:34] <jstein> What are the right user rights for /home/.ecryptfs ?
[15:34] <hermes> hi ppl
[15:37] <tatertots> jstein was it your intention to make it difficult for alice to get to her files/folders ?
[15:40] <jstein> tatertots: of course not. Afterwards I see things did not work as expected...
[15:40] <jstein> I do not understand, why the system can mount bob 's home automatic, but not alice 's
[15:41] <kyle__> jstein: Probably eve.
[15:41] <kyle__> Or maybe Mal is involved.
[15:43] <hermes> can I remove windows10 from a laptop and install ubuntu permanently?
[15:44] <nv_> Hi. Anyone know how why I can boot gparted 64bit live cd, but I am unable to boot Ubuntu64bit made with unetbootin? I had windows 10 installed on a new pc, I of course deleted the partition and now have a tough time installing my lovely ubuntu. Thanks.
[15:44] <ProficientWombat> Yes, you can, hermes. What version of Ubuntu do you plan on installing?
[15:45] <ProficientWombat> nv_, is it throwing up any errors?
[15:45] <nv_> The latest stable version 64bit.
[15:46] <ProficientWombat> Is it displaying any errors, nv_?
[15:46] <anonymos> help me
[15:47] <nv_> It just says no bootable cd, except when I use gparted.  I downloaded the iso several times and it works on my other pc. THis new one had uefi not old bios. I suspect I messed up something there.
[15:47] <akash_> Hey folks
[15:47] <nv_> Thanks anonymos
[15:47] <GuidovanPossum> hi, just checking I thought today was the release of the LTS update from 14.04 -> 16.04 since it's 3 months after the April 19th launch?
[15:48] <Pici> GuidovanPossum: its the 21st
[15:48] <GuidovanPossum> ok thanks!
[15:48] <Pici> GuidovanPossum: also, nice nick.
[15:48] <ProficientWombat> nv_, perhaps it was a problem with unetbootin. maybe you could try re-installing it?
[15:49] <anonymos> salut terminal ubunt apt-update
[15:49] <akash_> I  tried to update my linux distro using apt-get update. But it is showing some error that - failed to get files, ignored files
[15:49] <nv_> I will try it a few more times. I have done it a couple of times, with both gparted and ubuntu, but only gparted works every time.
[15:50] <akash_> Also issue with mysql, not getting installed due to it
[15:50] <ProficientWombat> @nv_ Oh okay, I see. Alright, well best of luck to ya, then
[15:50] <nv_> Thank you.
[15:50] <cisco909> hi
[15:52] <anonymos> cisco 909
[15:52] <bumblefuzz> what packages are in the ubuntu server install that aren't in an ubuntu desktop install?
[15:53] <anonymos> mm
[15:53] <deepend> hey having trouble enabling a fourth monitor?
[15:53] <deepend> two graphics cards, four plugged in
[15:53] <deepend> can only get three to work at a time
[15:54] <anonymos> je suis la pour
[15:54] <ProficientWombat> @deepend what is the 4th monitor doing?
[15:54] <anonymos> vous
[15:54] <Pici> !fr| anonymos
[15:54] <deepend> ProficientWombat: blank/black. when i try to enable it fails to apply config
[15:54] <anonymos> removed icloud bypass
[15:55] <ProficientWombat> deepend: open the Terminal and run xrandr. what does it output?
[15:55] <OerHeks> bumblefuzz, the package tasksel i guess, that starts the text installer for server apps
[15:55] <Pici> bumblefuzz: not much.
[15:55] <deepend> ProficientWombat: just without any args?
[15:55] <bumblefuzz> Pici there's a package called not much?
[15:56] <ProficientWombat> deepend: yup, it should list all the connected monitors
[15:56] <ProficientWombat> deepend: unless I'm wrong. :P
[15:56] <Pici> bumblefuzz: This is from a 14.04 server, but: http://paste.ubuntu.com/20050506/  , thats a comparison of the server and ubuntu-desktop tasks.
[15:56] <deepend> k, lemme give that a shot. thanks ProficientWombat
[15:56] <fugtod> i am connected to the wifi but not the internet. google doesn't load in firefox. what can i try?
[15:56] <ProficientWombat> yup, no problem
[15:56] <Pici> bumblefuzz: so that doesn't include picking lamp-server or email-server at server install.
[15:57] <Pici> bumblefuzz: it was a diff of tasksel --task-packages ubuntu-desktop and tasksel --task-packages server
[15:58] <fugtod> anyone?
[15:58] <deepend> ProficientWombat: https://bpaste.net/show/5b0bf647a7a8
[15:58] <deepend> looks like it says disconnected?
[15:59] <bumblefuzz> Pici great, so are any of those tasks essential after install?
[15:59] <bumblefuzz> in other words, can I safely remove them from a server install?
[15:59] <bumblefuzz> and then install ubuntu desktop to make it a seamless server > desktop transition?
[16:01] <Pici> bumblefuzz: The other tasks in tasksel? Only if you intend to continue running a web/email server, etc.  (also don't uninstall tasks, use apt directly)
[16:01] <Pici> bumblefuzz: and these packages I listed are all small and unintrusive, I wouldn't bother removing them from an install if I was trying to turn it into a desktop.
[16:01] <fugtod> is anyone going to help me
[16:02] <deepend> fugtod: this is the internet?
[16:03] <ProficientWombat> deepend: hm, I'm not sure. Here are some links that may help, though: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/30677684/ubuntu-xrandr-shows-hdmi-output-as-disconnected-when-it-is-connected
[16:03] <deepend> I haven't installed nvidia drivers yet, wonder if that would make a difference?
[16:04] <ProficientWombat> deepend: Ah yes, it very well may.
[16:04] <niko988> Hello
[16:04] <deepend> i'll give that a try
[16:04] <ProficientWombat> ok, hope it works!
[16:04] <fugtod> on my other device, deepend
[16:04] <fugtod> asus chromebox running ubuntu 14.04 lts
[16:04] <deepend> fugtod: and you're on the same network?
[16:04] <ProficientWombat> sorry I wasn't more help, @deepend, haha
[16:04] <deepend> no worries ProficientWombat
[16:04] <fugtod> yes
[16:05] <deepend> can you ping <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[16:08] <zamanf> silence
[16:09] <meshuggah_> is ubuntu lacking privacy support?
[16:10] <Pici> meshuggah_: in what context?
[16:10] <fugtod> no
[16:10] <meshuggah_> dunno i go to the settings, there is security^privacy with everything set to enabled by default
[16:10] <niko988> I have a server with a static IP and a TLD. For my home network i always used DynDns (now dyn.com) with my Router to update there another TLD with my dynamic IP. So if I understood everything right DynDns is a normal DNS-Server with the ability to change the destination IP Adress of the Domain (or Subdomain)... Is it possible (or does it makes sence) to run a "dyndns-Server Script" on my own
[16:10] <niko988> Ubuntu machine? I don't want to have two seperate domains, and DynDns is a little bit expensive...
[16:10] <meshuggah_> and not long ago there was a scandal about ubuntu spying us and putting ads about what we do
[16:10] <meshuggah_> did that changed?