[07:25] <ehird> hollywoodb alrighty
[07:25] <dori> georgeb: that works, thanks
[07:25] <ehird> i get errors.
[07:25] <ehird> !pastebin
[07:25] <ehird> ... ubotu is dead
[07:25] <ehird> !pastegbin
[07:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastegbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:25] <ehird> !pastebin
[07:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:26] <ehird> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30202/
[07:26] <ehird> heh oops
[07:26] <ehird> forgot a k
[07:29] <ehird> doing install now :)
[07:29] <ehird> umm
[07:29] <ehird> it says it has nothing to upgrade when i follow the instructions to install
[07:30] <ehird> aha! apt-get install beryl
[07:30] <knapp> So Ubuntu/Kubuntu no longer comes with Firefox preinstalled?
[07:30] <ehird> knapp: kubuntu never did, ubuntu still does.
[07:30] <Hawkwind> knapp: No, but it's in main so it's easily installable
[07:31] <knapp> oh ok.
[07:31] <ehird> okay installed beryl
[07:31] <ehird> what do i run to test it out now?
[07:31] <jel> knapp: epiphany is better integrated with gnome anyway, and for kde, konqueror is much more integrated.  It also has questionable security, compared to mozilla etc.  It should be there if people want it, but not default imho.
[07:32] <ciga> what is beryl?
[07:32] <ehird> !beryl | ciga
[07:32] <ubotu> ciga: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/  -  Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl.
[07:32] <ciga> oic
[07:32] <ciga> nice.
[07:33] <ehird> now i just need the command to startit! *g*
[07:33] <knapp> jel only problem I have with Konq is that it doesn't work with some sites. Most notably, gmail.
[07:33] <knapp> well, it works, but not fully
[07:33] <ehird> ah, "beryl-manager"
[07:33] <knapp> gmail has to use standard html view
[07:34] <cvacubo> Hello... Maybe you can help me? I need mount UDF iso file on /mnt/iso1 and then mount with nfs this /mnt/iso1 on /mnt/iso2. But I have error: Permission denied.
[07:34] <fdoving> knapp: set konq to identify as firefox at gmail.com and it'll work in the fancy view too.
[07:34] <knapp> oh I gotta try that
[07:35] <fdoving> knapp: settings -> browser identification.
[07:35] <fdoving> inside koq.
[07:35] <knapp> fdoving it's already in there.
[07:36] <elias_> how can I recover a file which has been deleted on a reiserfs partition?
[07:36] <knapp> fdoving: "For a better Gmail experience, use a fully supported browser.   Learn more"
[07:36] <fdoving> knapp: ok, google.com too?
[07:37] <knapp> yes
[07:37] <fdoving> knapp: Works for me.
[07:37] <arunkale> why have you guys upgraded to edgy
[07:37] <hollywoodb> elias_: google: reiserfs file recovery
[07:37] <knapp> "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Konqueror/3.5; Linux) KHTML/3.5.5 (like Gecko) (Kubuntu)"
[07:37] <knapp> oops
[07:38] <knapp> nope, still
[07:38] <fdoving> knapp: did you add gmail.com and google.com to the list? and set fake user agent to Firefox <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:38] <fdoving> that's what I have, and it works.
[07:38] <fdoving> you need both gmail.com and google.com i think. atleast that's what i have.
[07:39] <knapp> yes
[07:39] <RiKKKi> Hey all my partners having trouble installing myth TV any suggestions on what he should do, from what i can gether its a fresh kubuntu install
[07:39] <georgeb> how can I find out from what repo is a package ? I can see the package is somewhere with apt-cache show ; but I don't know in which repo
[07:39] <ehird> beryl "works" the same way a lobotomy "works"
[07:39] <ehird> i get basically allwhite and a few alt+tab graphics.
[07:39] <fdoving> georgeb: 'apt-cache madison package'
[07:39] <ehird> do i need to install xgl instead?
[07:39] <hollywoodb> ehird: hehe, maybe
[07:40] <fdoving> ehird: tried #ubuntu-xgl ?
[07:40] <knapp> fdoving, ok closing it out and reopening looks like it did the trick
[07:40] <ehird> fdoving: it may be a beryl problem i dunno
[07:40] <hollywoodb> ehird: apt-get install xserver-xgl libgl1-mesa xserver-xorg libglitz-glx1
[07:40] <fdoving> ehird: ok, i don't know anything about XGL. Can't stand using it. sorry.
[07:40] <hollywoodb> ehird: I believe you have everything else you need
[07:41] <hollywoodb> ehird: but you'll have to add an Xgl login session to kdm/gdm as per the beryl wiki
[07:41] <georgeb> fdoving: doesn't work; at least not for w32codecs
[07:41] <markelhas> hey
[07:42] <markelhas> ppl
[07:42] <markelhas> any expert in samba?
[07:43] <fdoving> georgeb: that usually means the package isn't in any of the repositories you have enabled.
[07:44] <fdoving> georgeb: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats -> Select 'Windows Codecs' in the Contents list.
[07:45] <Hikaru79> How can I access the Java Control Panel in Kubuntu? (In Gnome, it would automatically be added to the menu under "Administration", but I don't see it in the KDE menus)? Any ideas? :)
[07:45] <markelhas> can't put my samba working
[07:46] <markelhas> can any one help me out
[07:47] <ppine__> .
[07:48] <ppine__> Is it possible to stream audio from a windows share without mounting it ?
[07:48] <ciga> markelhas: what's wrong?
[07:48] <ppine__> just //adres etc. in konqueror
[07:48] <markelhas> ciga: i've ddl the samba
[07:49] <dinosaur-rus> ok, I got nvidia-glx package to work
[07:49] <Bubba_Gump> :D
[07:49] <markelhas> ciga: and tried to explorer my windows machine but got a error
[07:50] <georgeb> fdoving: thx
[07:50] <Bubba_Gump> anyone know of a good 'SPSS' , or like, appy ?
[07:50] <dinosaur-rus> now I want to know if setting CPATH environment variable will break compiler's default search paths or not
[07:50] <markelhas> ciga: i'm in samba sahres them my home group appers
[07:51] <markelhas> ciga: them my machine
[07:51] <markelhas> ciga: after that error
[07:51] <markelhas> ciga: :(
[07:51] <ciga> markelhas: can you connect from windows to linux?
[07:51] <georgeb> markelhas: what was the error ?
[07:51] <hollywoodb> Bubba_Gump: what's spss ?
[07:51] <markelhas> didn't try to connect from windows to linux
[07:51] <enzo_> I am trying to install Kubuntu 6.10 via LiveCD and it tells me "No root file system". What's the fix?
[07:52] <Bubba_Gump> it's a statistics program, good for science and sorta like a spreadsheet thingy
[07:52] <markelhas> georgeb: no error now, but no share folder
[07:52] <markelhas> and yes i've shared a folder on the windows machine
[07:52] <Bubba_Gump> i've RWKard and it's a bit naff
[07:53] <ciga> markelhas: which windows version?
[07:53] <Bubba_Gump> just looking for something much groovier :D
[07:53] <markelhas> xp sp2
[07:53] <markelhas> my desktop
[07:53] <ciga> markelhas: no firewall on windows, right?
[07:53] <markelhas> yes i've one
[07:54] <markelhas> ciga: but from windows machine i can see my share
[07:54] <markelhas> ciga: from linux should be ok them, right!?
[07:54] <ciga> markelhas: from the same windows machine, or an other one?
[07:54] <markelhas> another one, this one but with windows
[07:54] <markelhas> my laptop
[07:55] <ciga> ok
[07:55] <ciga> markelhas: try smbclient -L $yourdesktopwindowsip
[07:55] <markelhas> oki
[07:55] <enzo_> anyone here done the edgy install from the livecd?
[07:55] <cntb> h3sp4wn:  ? gone?
[07:56] <ubuntu> Hey all... have a problem with X... I cant start it anymore... The installed that is...
[07:56] <markelhas> ciga: Error returning browse list: NT_STATUS_OK
[07:56] <dinosaur-rus> ubuntu: ??
[07:56] <cntb> your nick is ubuntu ?
[07:56] <ubuntu> It doenst give me an error or nothing... just a blank screen. cant change to a shell either
[07:56] <ubuntu> cntb: Live cd.
[07:57] <dinosaur-rus> will setting the CPATH variable break existing search paths?
[07:57] <Alzi2_> Hey. I had a question. Is it possible to install Kubuntu from the Ubuntu LiveCD? (I don't want to download another CD AGAIN...)
[07:57] <markelhas> ciga:  on konker got this error: The file or folder smb://mav-desktop/ does not exist
[07:57] <cntb> have hirenCD or gparted botable CDs ubuntu ?
[07:58] <cntb> oh tha is more understandable Hagbarddenstore
[07:59] <dinosaur-rus> Alzi2_: there's "Install" shortcut on the desktop
[07:59] <Hagbarddenstore> gonna look in the x log now
[07:59] <ciga> markelhas: do you know how to mount a share with 'mount'?
[07:59] <Alzi2_> dinosaur-rus: You didn't read my message correctly. I said from the UBUNTU LiveCD
[08:00] <hollywoodb> ehird: any luck with beryl?
[08:00] <h3sp4wn> cntb: What do you need to know ? (If you want to install netbsd under xen I might be interested) but I think its pretty simple to do if you just follow the documentation
[08:00] <redmonkey> (k)ubuntu is in my opinion the best linux. it detects the most hardware of all linux distributions.
[08:00] <zorglu_> Alzi2_: install it and then do 'apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[08:00] <dinosaur-rus> Alzi2_: ahh... didn't know they differ so much...
[08:00] <markelhas> ciga: i think i can manage with the help of the man
[08:00] <zorglu_> Alzi2_: but still it will require quite a bit of download
[08:00] <ciga> markelhas: try that first.
[08:00] <georgeb> markelhas:  try smbclient -L $yourdesktopwindowsip -U windows_username
[08:00] <Alzi2_> zorglu_: And how to get rid of the gnome packages still scattered about, then? or can you switch inbetween? but it messes up the menu's, i think.
[08:01] <georgeb> markelhas: might be an auth problem
[08:01] <ehird> hollywoodb, did you read my previous message? :p
[08:01] <zorglu_> Alzi2_: well it is very simple to add pacakge, but to remove is very hard
[08:01] <hollywoodb> Alzi2_: there's an article in the forums about properly adding and removing the big metapackages like ubuntu-desktop
[08:01] <zorglu_> Alzi2_: some people has made pages about how to remove all the package from gnome in the case you describe
[08:01] <knapp> I have just installed Kubuntu, where can I go to figure out what repositories I need?
[08:01] <hollywoodb> ehird: try xgl?
[08:01] <Alzi2_> "the forums are offline until further notice." <-- You guys have no choice but to help me :P
[08:02] <zorglu_> hehe :)
[08:02] <Hagbarddenstore> how do I chroot into the hdd and use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[08:02] <zorglu_> "wanna bet ?" :)
[08:02] <ehird> hollywoodb, except, i can't get thru its tutorial
[08:02] <ehird> "BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)" on glxinfo
[08:03] <hollywoodb> Hagbarddenstore: mount / partition someplace, then: chroot /mnt/whereitis/ /bin/bash
[08:03] <hollywoodb> Hagbarddenstore: then do what you need to do
[08:03] <markelhas> georgeb: maybe, but how can i autorize it? in windows or linux?
[08:03] <ciga> markelhas: -U $youraccountonyourwindowsdesktop
[08:04] <ciga> and then you need to type the right password for that user.
[08:04] <georgeb> markelhas: I think there was a change in XP SP2; so the shares can't be listed if the connection type is anonymous, or smth like that; and if you don't specify a windows username to smbclient, it will try a anonymous connection
[08:05] <georgeb> markelhas: just put a valid account from the windows machine for smbclient -U ; so smbclient will send some credentials
[08:05] <markelhas> georgeb: okidoki
[08:06] <markelhas> georgeb: and ciga: something like what smbclient -U MyUser MyIPMAchine?
[08:07] <ciga> smbclient -U MyUser -L MyIPMAchine
[08:07] <Alzi2_> Guys - I meant: Is there a way to make the installer use Kubuntu instead of Ubuntu?
[08:07] <georgeb> markelhas:  smbclient -L MyIpMAchine -U MyUser
[08:08] <markelhas> georgeb: ok i'll try
[08:09] <Hikaru79> How can I access the Java Control Panel in Kubuntu? (In Gnome, it would automatically be added to the menu under "Administration", but I don't see it in the KDE menus)? Any ideas? :)
[08:09] <markelhas> georgeb: same error
[08:09] <killermach__> I am trying to clone a partition with dd or partimage, but I get "cannot read from sector 266938" how do I get the drive to reallocate the bad sectors so I can image the data?
[08:09] <skiy> Hikaru79: Mine is /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-<IP_ADDRESS>/bin/javaws
[08:10] <Hikaru79> skiy, I'm pretty sure that's just the WebStart panel (javaws -> java web start)
[08:10] <Hikaru79> I need the general overall panel, not just for webstart.
[08:10] <skiy> Hikaru79: apt-get install gnome-control-panel
[08:11] <Hikaru79> LOL :P
[08:11] <skiy> Hikaru79: sorry, gnome-control-center :)
[08:11] <Hikaru79> I'm not going to install Gnome just to find the java control panel ^ ^;
[08:11] <Hikaru79> But perhaps I'll just ask a Gnome-using friend to see what his menu launcher points to :)
[08:12] <ciga> !rh-cluster
[08:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rh-cluster - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:12] <skiy> Hikaru79: sorry :(
[08:12] <Hikaru79> Thanks anyway, skiy :)
[08:13] <knapp> Can someone recommend me a good kate/kwrite alternative?
[08:14] <georgeb> markelhas: hmm.. do you have a firewall ?
[08:14] <ehird> kbounce is addictive
[08:14] <ehird> knapp: vi, emacs, nano
[08:15] <skiy> knapp: kedit?
[08:15] <skiy> knapp: kdevelop3
[08:15] <skiy> knapp: it depends on what you want it for, really :)
[08:16] <knapp> skiy, just everyday use. Just wanted to look at some alternatives.
[08:16] <knapp> I feel like Kate is slow
[08:16] <skiy> knapp: yes, it is :)
[08:17] <skiy> I don't suppose anyone knows my the sounds skips in many kde applications on my clean install of edgy ?
[08:17] <skiy> make that all kde applications
[08:17] <oge> join #ubuntu
[08:17] <skiy> oge: I asked there :(
[08:18] <Kim^J> I fixed X... =)
[08:18] <firebird619> Could someone help me out. I just installed Beryl and would like to make it autostart. I used the script on http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Dapper/XGL to add into ~/.kde/Autostart, but that did not work.
[08:19] <skiy> Hikaru79: ControlPanel
[08:19] <skiy> Hikaru79: :)
[08:20] <oge> firebird: did you make it executable?
[08:20] <firebird619> oge: yes.
[08:20] <oge> i tried it once on my laptop and it worked for me...
[08:20] <Hawkwind> firebird619: Have you tried #Beryl or #Ubuntu-XGL ?
[08:21] <firebird619> Hawkwind: No, I thought I would try here first. I can go there and ask. Thanks
[08:22] <Helios> hi all
[08:26] <varean> I can install anything from th euniverse repositories
[08:27] <varean> cant*
[08:29] <Ace2016> Hi i need some help
[08:29] <Ace2016> open office is VERY unstable and i need to do coursework
[08:29] <Ace2016> and i need a solution thats faster than buying windows
[08:29] <Ace2016> and installing oo on it
[08:30] <hollywoodb> Ace2016: koffice
[08:30] <Ace2016> which i can't do till tomorrow
[08:30] <Ace2016> hollywoodb: is koffice compatible with oo?
[08:30] <varean> Does kubuntu come with gcc installed?
[08:31] <hollywoodb> Ace2016: if you save in a compatible format, sure
[08:31] <Hawkwind> varean: sudo apt-get install build-essential should install it for you if it's not already installed
[08:31] <varean> I get this error
[08:31] <varean> varean@Tux:~/gcc-4.1.1$ sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:31] <varean> Reading package lists... Done
[08:31] <varean> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:31] <varean> Package build-essential is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:31] <varean> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[08:31] <varean> is only available from another source
[08:31] <varean> E: Package build-essential has no installation candidate
[08:32] <B-Minus_> hello
[08:32] <B-Minus_> is there some sort of DUmeter for linux ?
[08:32] <varean> I cant really install anything
[08:32] <Ace2016> hollywoodb: so koffice can't .odt files? and will the new format be usable on windows somehow, i have to print it in school
[08:32] <fdoving> varean: enable the repositories.
[08:32] <fdoving> !repos
[08:32] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:32] <hollywoodb> Ace2016: should do odt
[08:32] <varean> I did
[08:32] <hollywoodb> Ace2016: go read up on it
[08:32] <Ace2016> ok
[08:32] <varean> I uncommented the universe repositories
[08:33] <fdoving> varean: do the same for main
[08:33] <Ace2016> i'll compile oo from source, that should make it work
[08:34] <varean> that did, it sweet, tyvm
[08:34] <UQlev> Ace2016, you will get it by the end of tomorrow
[08:34] <hollywoodb> Ace2016: haha, I thought you need a quick solution
[08:36] <Ace2016> oh so it takes longer than 9 hours? :(
[08:40] <Ace2016> oh wait i'll try the pre compiled version first
[08:44] <ehird> is there a ruby lib for ncurses and whats the package name if so?
[08:45] <DarkWizzard> hello all
[08:45] <DarkWizzard> can someone help me with this problem
[08:45] <DarkWizzard> ?
[08:45] <DarkWizzard> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1688776#post1688776
[08:45] <Alzi2_> I'm switching to KDE because BasKet looks so good.. much better than TomBoy :O
[08:46] <ehird> Alzi2_: KDE roxor :)
[08:46] <ehird> :P
[08:46] <Alzi2_> ehird: Does kde 3.5 look better than its predecessor? :)
[08:46] <ehird> Alzi2_: heheheh yes
[08:47] <Alzi2_> http://basket.kde.org/screenshots.php <-- this theme.. how the heck?
[08:47] <Alzi2_> what theme is that?
[08:47] <ehird> don't judge it based on Kubuntu, though! Kubuntu Edgy has a horrible, horrible purple look
[08:47] <ehird> Alzi2_: that's nice, but I prefer Plastik :)
[08:48] <Alzi2_> what theme is that?
[08:48] <DarkWizzard> I need plastik
[08:48] <DarkWizzard> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[08:48] <DarkWizzard> lol
[08:48] <DarkWizzard> bad link
[08:48] <DarkWizzard> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1688776#post1688776
[08:48] <DarkWizzard> sorry
[08:48] <DarkWizzard> My themes are messed up
[08:48] <bene1> hi! my laptop suspends after a few minutes if it's on battery - how can i disable this? (dapper)
[08:48] <DarkWizzard> I cant switch to plastik
[08:49] <ehird> DarkWizzard: hah
[08:49] <ehird> plastik is awesome
[08:49] <DarkWizzard> I know
[08:49] <DarkWizzard> this Platinum suxx
[08:49] <DarkWizzard> I want to switch
[08:49] <DarkWizzard> its installed but doesn't appear
[08:49] <Ace2016> DarkWizzard: you should try http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=40492  its a much nicer theme
[08:50] <DarkWizzard> I'll try
[08:52] <Alzi2_> what's so nice about plastik?
[08:52] <Alzi2_> I find it rather standard
[08:52] <Ace2016> seems removing ~/.openoffice2/ did the trick, seems to be stable for now
[08:54] <DarkWizzard> wth
[08:54] <DarkWizzard> I didn't have kdelibs installed
[08:54] <DarkWizzard> is that normal ?
[08:54] <Alzi2_> no
[08:54] <DarkWizzard> I agree
[08:55] <Ace2016> how can you not have kdelibs installed?
[08:55] <Ace2016> you can't be in kde without it
[08:55] <Alzi2_> indeed..
[08:55] <Alzi2_> don't you mean kdelibs-dev?
[08:56] <roly> Hi
[08:56] <Ace2016> Hi
[08:56] <roly> someone know how to play wmv format with kaffeine?
[08:57] <DarkWizzard> I mean normal kdelibs
[08:57] <Alzi2_> DarkWizzard: That's very, very, very, very (5 hours and a few beers later) *hickup* very, very, very, very weird.
[08:58] <DarkWizzard> yeah I know
[08:58] <DarkWizzard> just Installed it
[08:58] <roly> some reference?
[08:58] <roly> mmmmmmmmmmmm
[08:58] <roly> then I hava a problem
[08:59] <Ace2016> roly: install libxine-extracodecs and w32codecs or install vlc and use that as the player
[08:59] <roly> tks Ace2016
[09:00] <Alzi2_> what the heck.. my laptop is going insane while installing imagemagick.
[09:00] <Alzi2_> It's like, totally blowing the fan out!
[09:00] <Alzi2_> well.. not that, but.. it's blowing :P
[09:00] <DarkWizzard> how do I build this
[09:00] <DarkWizzard> ?
[09:00] <DarkWizzard> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=40492
[09:01] <DarkWizzard> checking if UIC has KDE plugins available... no
[09:01] <DarkWizzard> configure: error: you need to install kdelibs first.
[09:01] <Alzi2_> DarkWizzard: Source in Ubuntu is -NIGHTMAREISH!-
[09:01] <DarkWizzard> and kdelibs and kdelibs-dev is installed
[09:01] <francois> hi all, does anyone know how to enable printing authorization ? my printer won't let me configure it
[09:01] <DarkWizzard> run kwrite
[09:01] <DarkWizzard> run print
[09:01] <Alzi2_> Then logout and in
[09:01] <DarkWizzard> and there is a button with the kde printer setup wizzard
[09:02] <DarkWizzard> Alzi2_: ok
[09:02] <DarkWizzard> francois: or easyer
[09:02] <DarkWizzard> sudo apt-get install system-config-printer
[09:02] <DarkWizzard> that thing just rullz
[09:03] <DarkWizzard> ok
[09:03] <DarkWizzard> brb
[09:03] <Alzi2_> sudo ubuntuctl eat hamburger... If that existed, I would be happy :P
[09:03] <Alzi2_> sudo ubuntuctl switch washmachine on
[09:04] <DarkWizzard> sudo ch0wn me real-life
[09:04] <Alzi2_> lol
[09:04] <Ace2016> I bet you could do that with bluetooth and a mobile
[09:04] <francois> lol
[09:04] <Art_> How can I get rid of that silly bouncing cursor?
[09:04] <DarkWizzard> kcontrol
[09:04] <Alzi2_> sudo chmod 1337 /usr/src/DarkWizzard/skillzorz
[09:04] <DarkWizzard> you just turn itt off
[09:04] <Alzi2_> :D
[09:05] <zorglu_> !codec | roly
[09:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:05] <Ace2016> Art_: its in kcontrol
[09:05] <DarkWizzard> :D
[09:05] <zorglu_> !codecs | roly
[09:05] <ubotu> roly: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:05] <Art_> DarkWizzard, Where?
[09:05] <DarkWizzard> w8
[09:05] <Ace2016> Art_: Appearance and Themes > Launch Feedback
[09:06] <DarkWizzard> yeah
[09:06] <DarkWizzard> there
[09:06] <DarkWizzard> ok
[09:06] <DarkWizzard> brbr
[09:06] <DarkWizzard> -r
[09:06] <bene1> hi! my laptop suspends after a few minutes if it's on battery - how can i disable this? (dapper)
[09:07] <Alzi2_> Wow. The new look of Kubuntu is great!
[09:07] <lotfi> hello
[09:07] <lotfi> i have a problem
[09:07] <lotfi> The APT database could not be opened !!!!
[09:07] <Ace2016> lotfi: two apps are trying to access it at the same time or one wasn't closed properly
[09:07] <binary2k2> lotfi: can you post the exact error?
[09:08] <lotfi> ok
[09:08] <marco> hi
[09:08] <marco> hi to all
[09:08] <marco> can anybody help me?
[09:08] <Ace2016> hi marco
[09:08] <marco> Hi Ace
[09:09] <Ace2016> people will help if they can but we need the problem first
[09:09] <marco> can u help me getting thru a couple of things?
[09:09] <marco> oh, ok, 2 very simple issues
[09:09] <Ace2016> still don't know what the actual issues are
[09:09] <marco> 1) I want to install Firefox 2.0 since Konqueror keeps on Crashing
[09:09] <marco> and
[09:09] <hollywoodb> marco: 1) apt-get install firefox
[09:10] <Hawkwind> marco: Are you running Dapper or Edgy ?
[09:10] <marco> 2) I would like to install the new versione of Ktorrent and Kopete for the same reason
[09:10] <marco> Dapper
[09:10] <Hawkwind> marco: No firefox 2.0 for Dapper in deb format
[09:10] <hollywoodb> aww
[09:10] <marco> I tried using apt-get but it gives me an error message
[09:10] <Hawkwind> marco: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade will update to the newest ktorrent if there is a newer version
[09:10] <lotfi> The APT database could not be opened !!!this may be caused bye incorrect APt configuration or same similar  problem !try running and apt-get update in terminal
[09:11] <marco> I have the .tar file of firefox 2.0, I just would like to install it correctly and in the right firectory, not in my home directory
[09:11] <marco> (P.w. - i love Hawkwind 2)
[09:11] <marco> (the band, I mean)
[09:11] <Hawkwind> marco: You're better off finding deb packages instead of compiling things
[09:11] <DarkWizzard> still not compiling
[09:11] <lotfi> and see if  helps to resolve the problem
[09:11] <Hawkwind> marco: I don't get the nick from the band :P
[09:11] <marco> oooo
[09:11] <DarkWizzard> show me a deb package for this :D
[09:11] <DarkWizzard> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=40492
[09:11] <marco> haha
[09:12] <binary2k2> lotfi: open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get update"
[09:12] <Hawkwind> marco: Maybe you should try the deb packages of swiftfox from http://getswiftfox.com
[09:12] <marco> so u mean I cannot get firefox 2.0 on dapper?
[09:12] <DarkWizzard> of course you can
[09:12] <lotfi> E: Le type http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash est inconnu sur la ligne 1 dans la liste des sources /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:12] <DarkWizzard> getfirefox.com
[09:12] <lotfi> sorry in french !
[09:13] <marco> of the people that updated to Edgy I have seen that many had big problems, u noe
[09:13] <Hawkwind> marco: You can, but it's recommended you stick with deb packages on a deb based distro
[09:13] <binary2k2> lotfi: :-p can you translate it for me?
[09:13] <marco> no problem, I speak french
[09:13] <lotfi> ok
[09:13] <DarkWizzard> marco: it works fine for me
[09:13] <zorglu_> lofti: your sources.list is corrupted
[09:13] <DarkWizzard> just download it and make a link on the desktop
[09:13] <DarkWizzard> no source needed
[09:13] <zorglu_> lotfi: you can not put such url in it
[09:13] <zorglu_> !flash9
[09:13] <ubotu> Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)  -  Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[09:14] <zorglu_> lotfi: you can try following those instruction to install flash9
[09:14] <marco> hmmm....and it will not install in my home directory?
[09:14] <lotfi> ok
[09:14] <lotfi> thank u
[09:15] <marco> ehi, that's a .tar file!
[09:15] <marco> I already have that
[09:15] <psf> hi
[09:15] <DarkWizzard> untar it
[09:15] <Ace2016> well i installed the swiftfox by extracting it to /opt/swiftfox and making a file called swiftfox in /usr/bin/ and putting #!/bin/sh (nextline) /opt/swiftfox/firefox $*  in it. Done
[09:15] <psf> xgl in ubuntu how to
[09:15] <marco> yep, but in which directory?
[09:15] <Hawkwind> Ace2016: Why ?  Why not use the deb packages
?
[09:15] <psf> or aixgl
[09:15] <DarkWizzard> marco: opt
[09:15] <DarkWizzard> or your home
[09:15] <psf> help
[09:15] <DarkWizzard> doesn't really matter
[09:15] <Ace2016> Hawkwind: does swift fox have deb packages?
[09:16] <Hawkwind> Ace2016: Yes.  Click the link at the top of the page that says Debian
[09:16] <marco> so I can untar it in <bin>? because I have all my programs there
[09:16] <Hawkwind> Ace2016: It's also mentioned on the front page as well in the second paragraph
[09:16] <Ace2016> Hawkwind: i just saw that
[09:16] <binary2k2> psf: you have to tell us the problem first
[09:17] <DarkWizzard> what card psf ?
[09:17] <Hawkwind> !xgl | psf
[09:17] <ubotu> psf: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:17] <DarkWizzard> http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=9493353
[09:17] <DarkWizzard> btw
[09:17] <DarkWizzard> what does XGL need to run
[09:18] <DarkWizzard> would it run with an ATI 9200 SE with fglrx drivers and 256 MB ram ? :D
[09:18] <marco> DWizzard : Nvidia or Ati I think
[09:18] <Hawkwind> DarkWizzard: Read the above URL, it tells you all of that
[09:18] <Hawkwind> DarkWizzard: Very sluggishly
[09:18] <Ace2016> Hawkwind: i installed the trunk version, i didn't think they'd have deb versions of those
[09:18] <DarkWizzard> Korrora wouldn't start
[09:18] <DarkWizzard> now I'm trying some XGL live cd
[09:18] <DarkWizzard> just downloading it
[09:18] <Hawkwind> 256MB of RAM isn't enough for XGL stuff at all.  It requires atleast 512MB or more
[09:19] <DarkWizzard> thought so
[09:19] <DarkWizzard> well I think I need ram :)
[09:19] <DarkWizzard> still better than vista could ever be
[09:19] <DarkWizzard> it needs 2 Gigs of ram to do half as XGL
[09:19] <TFrog> hell, Vista stole their eye candy from linux
[09:19] <DarkWizzard> checking if UIC has KDE plugins available... no
[09:19] <DarkWizzard> configure: error: you need to install kdelibs first.
[09:20] <DarkWizzard> not exactly
[09:20] <DarkWizzard> but close
[09:20] <DarkWizzard> there was a Sun project
[09:20] <DarkWizzard> project open glass
[09:20] <DarkWizzard> thats the ideea of it all
[09:20] <liam> Hi
[09:20] <DarkWizzard> can someone help me build this
[09:20] <DarkWizzard> ?
[09:20] <TFrog> DarkWizzard, Dell is calling 2 gig the minimum to run Vista without all the eye candy so you're looking at 4 gig of ram with
[09:20] <DarkWizzard> wow
[09:20] <DarkWizzard> new generation of mother boards comming
[09:20] <DarkWizzard> :D
[09:20] <Hawkwind> Not hardly
[09:20] <DarkWizzard> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=40492
[09:21] <DarkWizzard> it wont compile
[09:21] <Hawkwind> Vista runs on 1GB of RAM without issues.
[09:21] <DarkWizzard> keeps telling me I dont  have kdelibs installed
[09:21] <DarkWizzard> and I need a nice theme
[09:21] <DarkWizzard> this one suxx
[09:21] <hollywoodb> DarkWizzard: requirements for aiglx are lower than XGL, and its part of X.org, so you already have it... my intel 915 shared mem card runs aiglx great
[09:21] <liam> Sorry about this really simple question, but how do I install ndiswrapper?  I've extracted the tar, but I don't know what to do next. =(
[09:21] <TFrog> i just won't run it.  within a couple of months i'll be windows free anyway
[09:21] <DarkWizzard> whats the difference ?
[09:21] <SeanTater> liam, you are supposed to install it from apt
[09:21] <hollywoodb> liam: ignore the tar and install it via package manager
[09:21] <hollywoodb> DarkWizzard: wikipedia knows
[09:21] <SeanTater> liam, compiling from source is mostly unnecessary for ubuntu
[09:22] <Hawkwind> DarkWizzard: kdelibs4-dev
[09:22] <Hawkwind> !ndiswrapper | liam
[09:22] <ubotu> liam: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:22] <DarkWizzard> kdelibs4-dev is already the newest version.
[09:22] <marco> ok I have another question
[09:22] <DarkWizzard> still the same error
[09:22] <Hawkwind> DarkWizzard: You have installed build-essential ?
[09:22] <DarkWizzard> yeah
[09:22] <Hawkwind> DarkWizzard: Also make sure kdelibs is installed
[09:22] <DarkWizzard> of course
[09:22] <DarkWizzard> it is
[09:22] <Ace2016> DarkWizzard: are you using kde 3.5.5? you could update to that via the repos
[09:23] <DarkWizzard> yes
[09:23] <marco> why my Adept list doesen't show an Firefox 2.0 or new version of other programs such as Ktorrent or anything?
[09:23] <DarkWizzard> I use kde 3.5.5
[09:23] <marco> I have to change something in my repositories?
[09:23] <DarkWizzard> and still keeps telling me that no kdelibs
[09:23] <Hawkwind> marco: Because there is no firefox 2.0 for Dapper
[09:23] <Ace2016> can't you make the package reinstall?
[09:24] <liam> I don't have ndiswrapper in my Adept Manager.
[09:24] <Hawkwind> !info ndiswrapper
[09:24] <ubotu> Package ndiswrapper does not exist in any distro I know
[09:24] <marco> what about the other programs like Ktorrent, Gaim (I'm using a version not mentioned in Adept)
[09:24] <Ace2016> in synaptic make kdelibs reinstall itself that might work
[09:24] <TFrog> liam if you're running dapper it's ndiswrapper-utils
[09:24] <SoloSeKNoSeNada> v
[09:24] <Hawkwind> marco: Have you enabled all of the sources like multiverse, universe and all the others ?
[09:24] <smaggard> Hiyas1
[09:24] <marco> yes, of course
[09:24] <smaggard> oops
[09:24] <liam> I'm not using the latest version... So so breezy, is it?
[09:24] <smaggard> ! is what i meant
[09:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is what i meant - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:25] <Ace2016> ! about myself
[09:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about about myself - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:25] <smaggard> anyone have LTSP running in kubuntu?
[09:25] <TFrog> liam, i would think it's still ndiswrapper-utils in breezy as well
[09:25] <Ace2016> ! myself
[09:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about myself - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:25] <Ace2016> :P
[09:25] <liam> I opened Adept Manager - Do I just search for ndiswrapper?  Sorry, this must be really tedious for you.
[09:25] <ehird> hmm,
[09:26] <aib_> on EE, i ran `apt-get upgrade' and came back, and now my file system is set to read only. I can't even open firefox to google for the issue
[09:26] <ehird> is there a way to test beryl on say a new session?
[09:26] <TFrog> yes you can do it that way liam
[09:26] <smaggard> liam> i think ndiswrapper comes automatically
[09:26] <smaggard> go to a terminal and type sudo ndiswrapper
[09:26] <Ace2016> ehird: check the forums there are how tos there
[09:26] <Hawkwind> ehird: Everyone says it runs well on Edgy.  Try talking to the guys in #Beryl about it
[09:27] <marco> ehi anybody knows when Kubuntu 6.10.1 will get out?
[09:27] <DarkWizzard> YES
[09:27] <DarkWizzard> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=40920
[09:27] <marco> I mean, a date when it will be released
[09:27] <liam> When I typed sudo, it didn't let me type a password. =/  I click keys, and they don't show
[09:27] <aib_> does anyone know how your filesystem can get set to read only?
[09:27] <liam> sudo: ndiswrapper: not found. =(
[09:27] <Hawkwind> DarkWizzard: What's wrong with sudo apt-get install qtcurve ?
[09:28] <smaggard> hmm sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper
[09:28] <DarkWizzard> you mean
[09:28] <smaggard> thatll install it for ya
[09:28] <aib_> mount returns `/dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)'
[09:28] <DarkWizzard> that exists
[09:28] <DarkWizzard> cool
[09:28] <marco> nono, I mean anybody knows when Kubuntu Edgy 6.10.1 will be released, I mean the full distro, not only the Desktop
[09:28] <TFrog> actually smaggard he needs to type sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[09:28] <ciga> aib_: on error
[09:28] <binary2k2> alib_: don't know why is's mounted r/o, try running "sudo mount / -o remount,rw"
[09:29] <DarkWizzard> this suxx
[09:29] <DarkWizzard> I installed it and it won't apear in kcontrol > Appearence > Styles
[09:29] <DarkWizzard> just like the other ones
[09:29] <DarkWizzard> neighter does plastik
[09:29] <DarkWizzard> or anything normal
[09:30] <smaggard> ah yes its ndiswrapper-utils
[09:30] <smaggard> i think..
[09:30] <liam> ndiswrapper isn't installed on this, for some reason.  What wouldI do?
[09:30] <aib> ahh that fixed it binary2k2 thanks
[09:30] <TFrog> i know smaggard i've run dapper on the compaq presario i'm typing this on.  laptop that is
[09:30] <liam> It's not in Adept, and sudo doesn't work.
[09:30] <TFrog> hmmmmmmmmm.
[09:30] <smaggard> i know too... running on hp zv6000, but its been 6 months since the install
[09:31] <liam> I might just go back to Windows. =P
[09:31] <TFrog> smaggard, i'm on a Compaq R4125US running Edgy.  had to compile the ndiswrapper to get it working
[09:31] <smaggard> sudo "doesnt work" wtf go back to microshaft
[09:31] <liam> And duel boot on my main PC until I learn more...
[09:31] <aib> binary2k2, is it possible that a bad sector on the hard disk could cause the kernel to remount as ro if an application tries to write to that sector?
[09:31] <aib> it says errors=remount-ro
[09:32] <liam> I meant, sudo ndiswrapper doesn't work, as apparently it's not installed.
[09:32] <dragonflyseven> Hello all. Is there an application that lets me rotate my display (because my monitor is tipped in a portrait way). Ideally, i would like to set up hotkeys to do this, so I could switch back and forth.
[09:32] <TFrog> liam type "sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils"  it will install ndiswrapper on your system
[09:32] <smaggard> sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[09:32] <binary2k2> alib_: the filesystem marks sectors it know are bas as, well, bad so nothing will try to write to it
[09:32] <psf> help
[09:32] <psf> please
[09:32] <cntb> h3sp4wn: here ?
[09:33] <ciga> liam: I think you should run fsck on your root fs
[09:33] <h3sp4wn> cntb: what
[09:33] <cntb> restarted after install xen
[09:33] <cntb> what next ?
[09:33] <dragonflyseven> Anyone?
[09:33] <psf> how to axigl/xgl in kubuntu
[09:33] <bluch> !unmount iso
[09:33] <liam> I typed what you said, TFrog, but it said
[09:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unmount iso - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:33] <h3sp4wn> cntb: rtfm
[09:33] <liam> liam@liam-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[09:33] <liam> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:33] <liam> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:34] <h3sp4wn> cntb: you cannot expect to use xen without reading the manual
[09:34] <liam> Oops, sorry.
[09:34] <bluch> how can i unmount an iso image?
[09:34] <cntb> very nice ty
[09:34] <aib> binary2k2, everytime i try to `sudo apt-get upgrade' now this occurs :(
[09:34] <TFrog> hmmmmmmmm
[09:34] <cntb> I will
[09:34] <bluch> i mounted it with mount -o loop etc
[09:34] <h3sp4wn> cntb: except on fedora 6
[09:34] <ciga> liam: sudo init 1, and then fsck
[09:34] <cntb> obviously will
[09:34] <TFrog> liam.  close adept and try running that command again
[09:34] <smaggard> u cant have both running at the same time
[09:34] <TFrog> too late
[09:34] <TFrog> exactly smaggard
[09:34] <marco> is Edgy stable now?
[09:35] <cntb> FIY I am more than 22 yrs in computers so I am looking for hints not spoon feeding
[09:35] <marco> many people had problems using it
[09:35] <TFrog> marco, i'm running Edgy on my laptop right now
[09:35] <cntb> never mind
[09:35] <dragonflyseven> macro: it seems fine to me. I am running on a laptop.
[09:35] <binary2k2> alib_: you could try booting in to the LiveCD and running "sudo fsck -a /dev/hda1" to chack it for errors
[09:35] <TFrog> i haven't had any stability issues yet
[09:35] <TehUni> i run 3 kde sessions at once (1 for each monitor). How can i make it so that each one acts the same (same kmenu, wallaper, panels, etc) ?
[09:35] <aib> check out my var/log/messages: http://pastebin.ca/237982
[09:35] <cntb> h3 you must have enjoyed writing "rtfm"
[09:35] <cntb> I never do
[09:36] <h3sp4wn> cntb: I *almost* never do
[09:36] <cntb> bbl
[09:36] <TFrog> smaggard, does your HP have three settings in BIOS for video memory like my compaq?
[09:36] <smaggard> so what does everyoe think of flash 9... pretty freakin sweet eh?
[09:36] <smaggard> yeah
[09:36] <h3sp4wn> ciga: 22 years you should not need any hints the docs should be perfectly understandable
[09:36] <magical_trevsky> anyone know if there will be a backport of amarok 1.4.4 to dapper?
[09:36] <dragonflyseven> flash 9 is awesome.
[09:37] <TFrog> smaggard, are you running the proprietary ATI drivers?
[09:37] <binary2k2> alib_: you need to run the fsck command to force it to chech the disk for errors
[09:37] <aib> alright will do
[09:37] <dragonflyseven> Is there a GUI app that lets me configure monitor rotation?
[09:37] <smaggard> yeah it took a hellof a time tho
[09:37] <TehUni> btw, if any of you guys were here yesterday when i was trying to get >4gigs ram working, i got it... in 32bit kubuntu. had to recompile the kernel with 64gigs ram support.
[09:37] <binary2k2> alib_: if it finds any they will be marked so nothing will use them
[09:37] <smaggard> i have the 200m
[09:37] <knapp> Am I the only one that feels the default Kubuntu window boarder looks slightly kinda terrible?
[09:37] <smaggard> TFrog> mlb.com does that
[09:38] <TFrog> smaggard, the only way i can run them is if i shut off the dedicated ram and use system ram which i think suxx
[09:38] <smaggard> cant stand it
[09:38] <TFrog> smaggard, there is more than that sight.  i get it at antec.com and other sights too
[09:39] <smaggard> TFrog> and EASY way to get the ati drivers to work with sideport is to you version 8.24.8.... thats the last version before ATI broke it those bastards!!
[09:39] <smaggard> use**
[09:39] <dragonflyseven> How can I rotate my display 90 degrees?
[09:39] <TFrog> problem is keeping them from trying to update when updating software
[09:40] <rds> hello, may I ask a question in french?
[09:40] <smaggard> haha yeah, but they work
[09:40] <TFrog> just have to reinstall after updates i guess.  that or hope ati fixes the sideport issue
[09:40] <smaggard> i think they eventually will
[09:40] <marco> ehi
[09:41] <smaggard> maybe maybe not
[09:41] <marco> now I have version 1.5 of firefox,how can I upgrade it?
[09:41] <TFrog> well, this place, the forums and other linux distro's forums are complaining about that issue
[09:41] <smaggard> when they did that... i was extremely pissed heh
[09:41] <smaggard> yeah its not just this distro, its everybodys 200m and linux drivers that are broke
[09:41] <TFrog> you're not the only one.  right now i can't get above 350fps with my laptop
[09:41] <smaggard> we have been submitting support tickets and petitions for 6 months
[09:42] <TFrog> i don't think it will be too much longer if they want to get our business.
[09:42] <taylor> how do u prevent a package upgrade in kubuntu
[09:42] <smaggard> how do you get glxgears to output the fps?
[09:42] <TFrog> especially now that AMD bought them up
[09:42] <rds> my question is about the update from version 6.06 LTS to 6.10
[09:42] <TFrog> smaggard, just open a terminal and type in glxgears -printfps
[09:42] <smaggard> i dont see how it could be a HUGE deal to fix it.. even if it is they still should fix it
[09:43] <smaggard> ah thats the switch i couldnt remember!
[09:43] <TFrog> i agree
[09:43] <TFrog> don't feel bad smaggard.  i forget that switch frequently myself
[09:43] <binary2k2> rds: try the french kubuntu channel #kubutnu-fr
[09:43] <smaggard> smaggard@smaggard-laptop:~$ glxgears -printfps
[09:43] <smaggard> 5365 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1072.879 FPS
[09:43] <smaggard> 5637 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1127.246 FPS
[09:43] <smaggard> 5649 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1126.005 FPS
[09:43] <smaggard> 5661 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1132.016 FPS
[09:43] <TFrog> sweet.
[09:43] <plhardy_> often when i forget the switch i remain in dark !
[09:44] <TFrog> lol plhardy_
[09:44] <smaggard> yeah its ok
[09:44] <taylor> is there a file somewhere where I can say do upgrade a certain package past X.XX version
[09:44] <rds> thank you for your tips binary2k2 ;)
[09:44] <Ace2016> seems the open office thing could be gtk related, lots of junk is spewing out of konsole: (process:7719): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: gtype.c:2240: initialization assertion failed, use IA__g_type_init() prior to this function
[09:44] <taylor> don't upgrade i mean
[09:44] <TFrog> heck i get better than that from my old desktop.  i get around 1500 out of an old ati radeon 7000ve card
[09:44] <psf> aixgl in kubuntu how to
[09:44] <smaggard> with the newer drivers i would think it would get around 1250, but i wont complain too much for 1100
[09:45] <plhardy_> rds: !fr
[09:45] <smaggard> yeah the 200m definitely isnt a gaming chip lol
[09:45] <TFrog> and the funny part is i'm using dri drivers too
[09:45] <plhardy_> !fr*
[09:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fr* - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:45] <smaggard> yeah dri is enabled here to
[09:45] <smaggard> too*
[09:45] <_tony> I can't get my graphics card to install
[09:45] <plhardy_> !fr
[09:45] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:45] <TehUni> btw, if any of you guys were here yesterday when i was trying to get >4gigs ram working, i got it... in 32bit kubuntu. had to recompile the kernel with 64gigs ram support.
[09:46] <plhardy_> ah !
[09:46] <TehUni> oops, wrong paste heh
[09:46] <TFrog> supposedly ati is working with dri for native drivers to work as well as the proprietary.  that will be years in the making
[09:46] <smaggard> lol TehUni> i told you to do that!
[09:46] <smaggard> i even found a support forum and everything for you to visit but nooo dont listen to me...
[09:47] <TehUni> smaggard: someone told me to, must've been you. Then i came back later and asked how, and nobody would help. finally had to figure out how to do it on my own. Thanks for the suggestion though, it got me started
[09:47] <rds> merci ubotu
[09:47] <smaggard> ah yeah i think i left shortly after that
[09:47] <smaggard> sorry
[09:47] <smaggard> TehUni> youll find out a LOT of times its faster to just look it up on the net and learn it yourself for next time :D
[09:47] <TFrog> smaggard, you running so called native drivers on your laptop wireless or you using ndiswrapper?
[09:47] <TehUni> maybe you can help me with my next question then.. i've tried looking
[09:48] <der_steppenwolf> hi, i have a question.
[09:48] <taylor> does anyone know how to prevent a certain package from updating itself with apt?
[09:48] <TehUni> i run 3 kde sessions at once (1 for each monitor). How can i make it so that each one acts the same (same kmenu, wallaper, panels, etc) ?
[09:48] <der_steppenwolf> How can i install easily the last version of kde in kubuntu breezy badger?
[09:48] <smaggard> uhh the native drivers acted really screwy, so ndiswrapper to the rescue
[09:48] <smaggard> the "native" would work for a few minutes really well, then just crap out
[09:49] <TFrog> yeah.  i have issues with speed and some shut downs with native.  had to compile the ndiswrapper from source to use the same drivers i was using in dapper.
[09:49] <smaggard> and after my prior gentoo experience with this laptop, ndiswrapper was a breeze in ubuntu
[09:49] <TFrog> and that was only after the 1.27 release and finding another issue with it
[09:49] <TFrog> i haven't got time for using gentoo
[09:49] <smaggard> i cant remember if i compiled ndiswrapper myself or used kubuntus package.
[09:50] <smaggard> TFrog> ummm yeah thats what happened to me and gentoo after a year.. we had to breakup, she was controlling me lol
[09:50] <TFrog> have tried Fedora Core on here.  still sucked compared to ubuntu
[09:50] <marco> somebody can help me have up-to-date repositories?
[09:50] <smaggard> Fedora core was uninstalled about 5 mins after the install
[09:50] <TFrog> lol
[09:50] <smaggard> im serious and i wasted like 4 cdrs on that pos
[09:50] <TFrog> i even tried Suse and now they are in bed with MS
[09:50] <TFrog> ouch
[09:50] <smaggard> lol suse can go to hell now for all i care
[09:51] <TFrog> i downloaded the dvd version
[09:51] <smaggard> i used to like it
[09:51] <smaggard> i should have but had no blank dvds :(
[09:51] <TFrog> too much crap in suse for my taste
[09:51] <smaggard> well, your right tho.. after that whole novell/suse thing iunno it seems to have fallen apart maybe??
[09:52] <dhq> fdoving: i went in a folder in /etc/ and a folder and did rm -r then by mistake i came back in to the etc dir and hit the same command accedently
[09:52] <dhq> fdoving: what do i do to get my files back
[09:52] <smaggard> dhq> ouch!
[09:52] <TFrog> only problem is i'm going to have to reconfigure the desktop for wireless soon.  all i got there is atheros and it might be a pain to setup from what i've read about the madwifi in ubuntu
[09:52] <smaggard> how u werent root
[09:52] <fdoving> dhq: ouch. you can't easily.
[09:52] <fdoving> backup.
[09:52] <fdoving> is the easiest way to get them back.
[09:52] <dhq> fdoving: no backup :'(
[09:52] <Dr_Willis> bummer
[09:52] <fdoving> it could be backed up by defaukt.
[09:52] <smaggard> ur toast
[09:52] <fdoving> default.
[09:52] <fdoving> hang on.
[09:53] <dhq> fdoving: ok
[09:53] <binary2k2> dhq: sorry mate :(
[09:53] <dhq> dont you people say that :'(
[09:53] <smaggard> im sort of pissed that i wasted my time with k12ltsp these past couple of days. its fedora core 5 and all the reasons i hated it have come back lol.
[09:53] <fdoving> dhq: you can get the most important files from /var/backups/
[09:54] <smaggard> brb
[09:54] <dhq> fdoving: what do i gotta do
[09:54] <fdoving> dhq: Re-install.
[09:54] <Dr_Willis> ive never noticed a /var/backups  ...hmmm
[09:54] <dhq> fdoving: no other way i still some files remaning
[09:55] <fdoving> dhq: does the computer run fine? does it boot without complaining?  But it'll take a long time, and It does only work if apt-get works flawlessly.
[09:59] <zorglu_> dhq: no cd writter either ?
[09:59] <smaggard> mount -t iso file.img
[09:59] <dhq> fdoving: i have the edgy cd why cant i do it from there
[10:00] <dhq> zorglu_: had a sony external its with a frient :(
[10:00] <smaggard> errr umm mount -t iso9660 yourimage.img
[10:00] <TFrog> smaggard, while your at it, can you mount a cue/bin image in the same manner?
[10:00] <shadowhywind> can it be done? or is there a simple way to convert the img to iso and mount the iso?
[10:00] <binary2k2> smaggard: you missed out the "-o loop"
[10:01] <smaggard> thats not all of it, thats the option you need
[10:01] <zorglu_> TFrog: there is a tool for that, 'dbunch' or some other weird name
[10:01] <smaggard> i also didnt put the target path
[10:01] <binary2k2> shadowhywind: what do you get if you type "file filename.img" filename.img being the image file
[10:01] <TFrog> ty zorglu_.  i'll look into it
[10:01] <fdoving> dhq: the livecd?
[10:01] <dhq> fdoving: can it be done from the cd
[10:01] <Hawkwind> zorglu_: Surely you mean bchunk
[10:01] <shadowhywind> i havent tried it yet, do i also need to add a location like a moun point?
[10:02] <zorglu_> TFrog: Hawkwind: yeah :) bchunk is the name i was thinking about :)
[10:02] <smaggard> bchunk
[10:02] <dhq> fdoving: yes the live cd
[10:02] <dhq> sendmail: fatal: file /etc/postfix/main.cf: parameter default_privs: unknown user name value: nobody
[10:02] <Hawkwind> !info bchunk
[10:02] <ubotu> bchunk: CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-1 (edgy), package size 12 kB, installed size 68 kB
[10:02] <smaggard> sudo apt-get install bchunk
[10:02] <fdoving> dhq: not sure, you can try to boot the livecd, and mount your root filesystem, then copy over the missing files. (compare the two /etc directories.)
[10:02] <TFrog> zorglu_, i just looked with adept.  it converts the image.  not mount it
[10:02] <binary2k2> shadowhywind: the command will be like "sudo mount image-file.img -t filesystem-type /mount/point -o loop"
[10:03] <smaggard> iunno how to mount a bin/cue never done it
[10:03] <zorglu_> TFrog: well 1, you convert, 2. you mount. it is not ok for you ?
[10:03] <binary2k2> shadowhywind: but you need the filesystem, if it's a CD image use: iso9660
[10:03] <dhq> fdoving: well its woth a try  wish me all the best
[10:03] <fdoving> dhq: I can not guarantee it'll work though. good luck.
[10:03] <dhq> |lostbyte|: keep your fingers crossed
[10:04] <fdoving> dhq: you can get online from the livecd right?
[10:04] <smaggard> yupp
[10:04] <smaggard> of course!
[10:04] <dhq> fdoving: yes
[10:04] <TFrog> smaggard, it's ok.  i gotta do it on the desktop.  i'm dual booting there.  got a reason for it so i guess i'll have to use Winbloze and Alcohol 120
[10:04] <dhq> my fstab is gone
[10:04] <fdoving> dhq: ouch. copy the mtab.
[10:05] <shadowhywind> i canged it to iso9660  wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0, dmesg says  Unable to identify CD-ROM format.
[10:05] <binary2k2> shadowhywind: what is the image from?
[10:06] <shadowhywind> its from a cd that i copied in windows
[10:06] <max_> is there anyway to mount as iso to a virtual drive in kde?
[10:06] <dhq> fdoving: mtab from where
[10:06] <fdoving> dhq: /etc/mtab is that gone too?
[10:06] <binary2k2> shadowhywind: try with the filesystem-type as auto??
[10:07] <dhq> fdoving: :(
[10:07] <dhq> fdoving: yes
[10:07] <smaggard> brb
[10:07] <shadowhywind> auto said that you must specify the filesystemtype
[10:08] <fdoving> dhq: ok, 'cat /proc/mounts > /etc/fstab'
[10:08] <max_> is there anyway to mount as iso to a virtual drive in kde?
[10:08] <dhq> fdoving: dhq@dhq-laptop:/etc$ sudo cat /proc/mounts > /etc/fstab bash: /etc/fstab: Permission denied
[10:09] <binary2k2> shadowhywind: windows (or the software you used) has done something strange to the image then
[10:09] <fdoving> dhq: 'sudo -i'
[10:09] <fdoving> dhq: that'll give you a permanent root shell.
[10:09] <shadowhywind> yah, thanks for the help, i might switch back over and make it an iso
[10:09] <binary2k2> shadowhywind: if you get the iso then yo'll find it much easier
[10:09] <|lostbyte|> dhq, :)
[10:09] <|lostbyte|> dhq, get online on it and come back.
[10:09] <|lostbyte|> dhq, /etc/
[10:09] <|lostbyte|> :- o
[10:10] <|lostbyte|> bummer.
[10:10] <dhq> fdoving: dhq@dhq-laptop:/etc$ sudo -i sudo: uid 1000 does not exist in the passwd file! sendmail: fatal: file /etc/postfix/main.cf: parameter default_privs: unknown user name value: nobody
[10:10] <shadowhywind> yup, hehe
[10:10] <fdoving> |lostbyte|: rebooting is not smart,  if you've lost your fstab.
[10:10] <fdoving> dhq: ah, bummer.
[10:10] <|lostbyte|> fdoving, i didt know he was missing it.
[10:10] <dhq> |lostbyte|: thats y i am not rebootin
[10:10] <dhq> :(
[10:11] <fdoving> dhq: ok, 'cat /proc/mounts > ~/mounts'
[10:11] <fdoving> dhq: then you have it in your homedir if you need it.
[10:11] <fdoving> the information is usefull for rebuilding your fstab from the livecd.
[10:11] <dhq> fdoving: now what do i do
[10:12] <fdoving> dhq: reboot to the livecd.
[10:12] <dhq> fdoving: |lostbyte| brb :(
[10:13] <|lostbyte|> dhq, k
[10:15] <letalis> does anyone know of any good howtos regarding getting audio to workon a tv card using the bt878 chipsets?
[10:15] <letalis> my radio tuner works
[10:15] <letalis> but for some reason after upgrading to edgy the tv tuner audio is shot
[10:20] <MetaMorfoziS> !cryptsetup
[10:20] <ubotu> cryptsetup: configures encrypted block devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:1.0.3-3ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 244 kB, installed size 704 kB
[10:25] <der_steppenwolf> Is it appropiate to install kde 2.5.5 dapper into a kubuntu breezy badger?
[10:25] <der_steppenwolf> kde 3.5.5 sorry
[10:26] <zorglu_> !info klyx
[10:26] <ubotu> Package klyx does not exist in any distro I know
[10:26] <rag> hello how are you
[10:27] <rag> please somebody use katapult on edgy 6.10 ?
[10:27] <mono01> how install klyx???
[10:27] <zorglu_> i dunno :)
[10:27] <rag> i install other laptop with kubuntu for a friend but katapult not works
[10:27] <rag> i press alt + space but nothing
[10:28] <rag> katapult not appear me
[10:29] <Dr_Willis> !find klys
[10:29] <Dr_Willis> !find klyx
[10:29] <Dr_Willis> oops
[10:29] <ubotu> Package/file klys does not exist in edgy
[10:29] <ubotu> Package/file klyx does not exist in edgy
[10:30] <Dr_Willis> thats the tex wysiwyg editor?
[10:31] <zorglu_> Dr_Willis: yep
[10:31] <Dr_Willis> double checkthename. ;0
[10:31] <zorglu_> i need something to edit some text
[10:31] <Dr_Willis> theres dozens of text editors out.  and several word processors...
[10:32] <zorglu_> well i need like a word processor
[10:32] <Dr_Willis> of course TeX lets ya make awsome docs with simple ascii editors.
[10:32] <Dr_Willis> not sure how 'wordprocessor'ish tht tool is.
[10:32] <zorglu_> nothing fancy, typically like a research paper
[10:32] <Dr_Willis> i tend to use abiword.
[10:32] <Dr_Willis> but my needs are minimal.
[10:32] <zorglu_> there is 'word' in it... maybe it is me but it mean like 'doesnt work' :)
[10:33] <zorglu_> especially with the saved format
[10:33] <Dr_Willis> i used vi and tex ages  ago. in college.
[10:33] <Dr_Willis> on a serial terminal even
[10:33] <h3sp4wn> I have used emacs with latex (emacs has a tex mode)
[10:34] <Dr_Willis> modes! bah! heh heh...
[10:34] <zorglu_> yep latex is good for that, you can have the data even if the main software is no more
[10:34] <Dr_Willis> i even had a tex/latex setup to generate D&D character sheets.. ;)
[10:34] <zorglu_> :)
[10:35] <jerameh> So there are no ops or anything?
[10:35] <Dr_Willis> it would ask the stats and soforth.. you type them in... it would make a nice sheet...
[10:35] <Dr_Willis> they are undercover. ;0 jerameh
[10:35] <zorglu_> !info lyx-qt
[10:35] <ubotu> lyx-qt: High Level Word Processor - Qt frontend. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.2-4 (edgy), package size 2051 kB, installed size 6592 kB
[10:35] <zorglu_> maybe this one will do :)
[10:35] <Dr_Willis> !info lyx
[10:35] <ubotu> lyx: High Level Word Processor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.2-4 (edgy), package size 478 kB, installed size 1444 kB
[10:35] <Dr_Willis> heh
[10:35] <Dr_Willis> you sure thats not what you were looking forin the first place.. ;0
[10:36] <zorglu_> dunno i will try them
[10:36] <jerameh> does anyone have some links to some linux tutorials? I'm a total noob, wanted to make the switch, am now torrenting kubuntu (I've tried gnome before, didnt' like it) and want to learn as much as I can. Don't be afraid that you'll explode my brain, I'm pretty savvy.
[10:36] <DralaFi> lyx is a high level word processor? wtf
[10:36] <obf213> im having problems with packages
[10:36] <DralaFi> isn't it just a LaTeX processor?
[10:36] <obf213> when i open adept it says something else is using the the pacakgaes
[10:36] <obf213> and then i cant use the apt-get in console either
[10:37] <obf213> even after reboot and login. it still says something is using packages
[10:37] <h3sp4wn> Dr_Willis: The command completion in the tex emacs mode is useful (I cannot remember them by heart)
[10:37] <zorglu_> DralaFi: well latex may match de definition of 'word processor' too :)
[10:37] <obf213> and apt-get says dpkg was interrupted
[10:37] <georgeb> obf213: it might be adept-updater
[10:38] <zorglu_> !adept fixes
[10:38] <ubotu> adept: package management suite for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 11 kB, installed size 40 kB
[10:38] <obf213> i dont know
[10:38] <zorglu_> !adept crash fix
[10:38] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[10:38] <obf213> can anyoen tell me whts tying up my packages
[10:38] <zorglu_> obf213: try the above
[10:38] <obf213> ok
[10:39] <zorglu_> Creating config file /etc/texmf/fmt.d/01tetex.cnf with new version
[10:39] <zorglu_> Running fmtutil-sys. This may take some time. ..
[10:39] <zorglu_> maouaou tex is always tex :)
[10:40] <obf213> zorglu thanks
[10:40] <obf213> some mythtv thing was locking it up i guess
[10:40] <zorglu_> obf213: it worked ?
[10:40] <obf213> yeqh
[10:40] <zorglu_> cool
[10:40] <obf213> is the new firefox out
[10:41] <zorglu_> !kbuildsyscoca
[10:41] <ubotu> If your kmenu is out of date, like after installing an application and not founding it in kmenu, you should type "kbuildsyscoca" in a terminal to update it. It will rebuild the kde configuration cache.
[10:41] <zorglu_> obf213: likely
[10:42] <zorglu_> hmm typo in the factoid :)
[10:42] <Dr_Willis> firefox2 has been out for what 2 weeks?
[10:43] <dhq> fdoving: hello
[10:43] <dhq> fdoving: how do i add a sudo user
[10:43] <zorglu_> Dr_Willis: lyx-qt seems to work
[10:43] <__osh__> fdoving: adduser then /etc/sudoers
[10:43] <__osh__> fdoving: edit /etc/sudoers I mean.
[10:44] <dhq> __osh__: and
[10:44] <firegirl> im going to go jump on the trampoline
[10:44] <firegirl> have fun
[10:45] <__osh__> dhq: My bad. Just add the user to the group admin in /etc/group
[10:45] <Linvxer> Algum Brasileiro Aqui?
[10:45] <__osh__> !br
[10:45] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[10:45] <klerfayt> how to open tcp 6339 port?
[10:46] <dhq> __osh__: well i cant do any sudo
[10:46] <DralaFi> klerfayt, run something on that port that listens to incoming connections
[10:46] <__osh__> dhq: boot from a live-cd and mount your disk that way. then you'll be able to do it. =)
[10:46] <zorglu_> !bugs
[10:46] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[10:46] <klerfayt> DralaFi: what?
[10:47] <dhq> fdoving: you there
[10:47] <klerfayt> DralaFi: I'm using port 6339 port in ktorrent
[10:47] <DralaFi> klerfayt, then its all ok
[10:48] <klerfayt> DralaFi: wasn't ubuntu like without any open ports?
[10:48] <klerfayt> what is good port range torrents anyway?
[10:51] <DralaFi> klerfayt, What are you talking about?
[10:52] <klerfayt> DralaFi: I'm sure I read somewhere that ubuntu comes with no open ports
[10:53] <ehird> why cant i install mysql via apt-get
[10:53] <linuxbaldi> algum falante pt-br?
[10:53] <DralaFi> klerfayt, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_port
[10:55] <klerfayt> DralaFi: I see it best if my ports are closed?
[10:56] <hollywoodb> klerfayt: is best if your ports are stealthed if you're actually worried.  google for 'shields up', they have a decent portscanner
[10:57] <Bubba_Gump> :)
[10:57] <DralaFi> isn't shields up run by some maniac guy that keeps spitting out insecurity theories, only to be debunked by security experts?
[10:57] <klerfayt> I'm not worried; does kubuntu come with closed or open ports?
[10:57] <hollywoodb> DralaFi: hah, I have no idea, but the portscan interface there is nice
[10:58] <DralaFi> klerfayt, both open and closed ports
[10:58] <binary2k2> klerfayt: kubuntu == ubuntu with KDE
[10:58] <klerfayt> how can it be both at the same time?
[10:59] <hollywoodb> voodoo
[10:59] <DralaFi> hollywoodb, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Gibson
[11:00] <klerfayt> what for do we need th firewall then if ports are closed and open thanks to voodoo?
[11:00] <DralaFi> klerfayt, because that's how internet connectivity works. you have open and closed ports. It's all natural.
[11:01] <fdoving> dhq: yes, sorry the delay. kid was going to bed.
[11:01] <DralaFi> klerfayt, you need to go urgently to google.com and read up on TCP/IP and other network technologies.
[11:01] <binary2k2> klerfayt: if a port is open, it's accepting connections, if it's closed, it denys connection. If it's stealthed it just won't respond
[11:02] <|lostbyte|> fdoving, he lost his root preveledge over his current user which was persent in sudo ..
[11:03] <DralaFi> afaik to properly stealth, you need to respond with an ICMP telling the host that the port was unreachable
[11:03] <hollywoodb> DralaFi: hehe, that's entertaining ;) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2002/02/25/steve_gibson_invents_broken_syncookies/
[11:04] <Zamboulie> i'm trying to run automatix but it says dpkg is already runnin
[11:04] <klerfayt> what is firewall doing then? if ports are closed and open then needed?
[11:04] <Hawkwind> !automatix | Zamboulie
[11:04] <ubotu> Zamboulie: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.
[11:04] <binary2k2> DralaFi: no, if you resopnd with ICMP, then the peoson connecting knows that your IP is live
[11:04] <DralaFi> hollywoodb, lol
[11:04] <binary2k2> person*
[11:05] <fdoving> |lostbyte|: did he boot from the livecd and become root, mount the installed system, copy passwd and shadow back, from /var/backups and rebuild /etc/sudoers ?
[11:05] <DralaFi> binary2k2, true. But then you can't respond to ICMP-Echo_Request either
[11:06] <Zamboulie> mhmm
[11:06] <smaggard> hello again :D
[11:06] <DralaFi> and if you have any servers running, you'd have to restrict them to a subset of hosts or something
[11:06] <dhq> fdoving: now i copied all the files copies the fstab and am back on edgy
[11:06] <Zamboulie> i've tried doing sudo killall dpkg
[11:06] <Zamboulie> but it still says it
[11:06] <dhq> fdoving: problem is now i cant sudo
[11:06] <binary2k2> DralaFi: yep, and most firewalls block ICMP echo requests
[11:06] <fdoving> dhq: did it boot fine?
[11:06] <dhq> yes
[11:07] <fdoving> dhq: good. very good.
[11:07] <dhq> some lock files with the var error othere than that all fine
[11:07] <fdoving> dhq: reboot, and select recovery mode in grub.
[11:07] <dhq> fdoving: and then
[11:08] <fdoving> dhq: then run 'visudo'
[11:08] <DralaFi> binary2k2, iptables doesn't unless you tell it to :) but then icmp is good and useful. Remember, Security through obscurity is not useful at all, and someone that wants to target you can probably just intercept your tcp communication to other hosts and see that you are indeed there.
[11:08] <fdoving> dhq: then.. input..
[11:08] <hollywoodb> DralaFi: well if Gibson's amazing insight into security ever fails him maybe he can team up with the time cube guy
[11:08] <dhq> brb after recovery
[11:08] <dhq> fdoving: brb
[11:08] <|lostbyte|> dhq, wait..
[11:08] <fdoving> ehm..
[11:08] <c> I have just reinstalled my laptop from dapper to Edgy.  I have kept the original home directory intact (and it is also still mounted as home).  I have also made a copy of both the old /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow.  Now how can I make these users being able to login and access to home directories?
[11:08] <|lostbyte|> opps..
[11:08] <fdoving> well.. that won't help him much.
[11:09] <DralaFi> hollywoodb, time cube? I've not heard of that before.
[11:09] <georgeb> fdoving: but what happend to him ? messed up /etc/sudoers or just lost the "admin" user ?
[11:09] <|lostbyte|> fdoving, :) he will be backk ..
[11:09] <hollywoodb> DralaFi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_cube  and http://www.timecube.com/   good stuff ;)
[11:09] <fdoving> georgeb: deleted /etc/sudoers by mistake.
[11:10] <binary2k2> DralaFi: you have to find a host to target first, if your system dosen't reply at all, then they dont know if you are blocking the ports or off-line. so they just find a more vunerable host to target
[11:10] <georgeb> fdoving: ouch
[11:10] <fdoving> |lostbyte|: if i'm not here when he comes back, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30219/ is a minimal /etc/sudoers file. FYI.
[11:10] <fdoving> georgeb: not as bad as it sounds :)
[11:11] <georgeb> fdoving: then maybe he'd better setup a password for root; boot up with the regular user; the su to root, paste /etc/sudoers and passwd -d root :)
[11:11] <DralaFi> binary2k2, agreed. But it might be possible to monitor all traffic (with promisc turned on) and construct a list of connections across a link, and then taget each one. Though I imagine this will be no trivial task.
[11:12] <georgeb> fdoving: I think this is easier than visudo, press input, now write:....... ... ... ..... .... :)
[11:12] <fdoving> georgeb: or just reboot to recovery mode, run visudo and write in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30219/
[11:12] <|lostbyte|> fdoving, fine..
[11:12] <fdoving> georgeb: you can use links/lynx and gpm from recovery mode.
[11:12] <dhq12> fdoving: i did the recovery mode now
[11:12] <binary2k2> DralaFi: exacty, a cracker will, more often than not, just scan a subnet and look for the vunerable ones
[11:12] <dhq12> what did you say something bout visudo
[11:13] <|lostbyte|> lol
[11:13] <georgeb> :))
[11:13] <|lostbyte|> dhq12, go here.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30219/
[11:13] <fdoving> dhq12: are you in recovery mode now?
[11:13] <DralaFi> hollywoodb, very interesting, but the site's hard to read with the fonts and sizes
[11:13] <dhq12> fdoving: yes
[11:13] <|lostbyte|> dhq12, go back to recovery mode. do visudo and make sur eyou have those lines in it.
[11:14] <DralaFi> binary2k2, I guess it's far quicker to just target windows machines that will probably be more insecure and more likely to get them a few more hosts in their botnet (botnets seem to be a big thing lately :( )
[11:14] <Acc\Deny> Hi, I boot my system with Kubuntu and it seems its continously doing something with the HDD, WHY? I thought it was supposed to boot into LIVE mode.... I have 6.06 LTS.
[11:14] <georgeb> fdoving: sorry.. never been in recovery mode in ubuntu; I thought that it's the usual single mode with no X, no networking, etc
[11:15] <astronaute> quake 4 on gentoo amd64 ?? please query me (can't toggle console !)
[11:15] <dudanogueira> please, im recording the klettres pt-br sounds, and would like to know where klettres store this data for testing my own recordings... how to discover where it is?
[11:16] <binary2k2> DralaFi: you'd be surprised how many windows users have open SMB shares, used to be fun to see what people had in them (when I was youger :> )
[11:16] <Acc\Deny> Further I am facing the classic "Linux Intel 845 X.org Syndrome" :). Please have a look at my problem-description on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30220/
[11:17] <DralaFi> binary2k2, of course. And I heard that that's the fastest way viruses spread at university.
[11:18] <Parkotron> DralaFi: Very true. Back when I lived in residence the network was a cesspool of infection.
[11:18] <binary2k2> DralaFi: I remember reading a sevurity thing a while back. A freshly installed windows system was put on the internet, and before the updates even installed it was full of viruses and wormes
[11:19] <DralaFi> Parkotron, luckily I never got hit, as I was running linux at the time.
[11:19] <DralaFi> binary2k2, wasn't it like 5 minites on the internet and you'd get infected?
[11:19] <morghanphoenix> Aybody know why my speakers would put out a really obnoxious buzzing noise when I'm trying to watch a movie?
[11:20] <binary2k2> DralaFi: something like that. Just another reason to go with linux
[11:20] <Parkotron> DralaFi: I was was running Windows at the time, but you could stay clean easily enough if you knew what you were doing. Like, for example, installing a virus scanner. :)
[11:21] <georgeb> binary2k2: about 1.5 years ago I installed WinXP on a computer, I plugged the network in to do the updates, and after 2 minutes (the windows update site didn't load yet) it was infected, you know.. that nice pop-up saying that the computer will shutdown in 60 seconds; I downloaded the fixes, put them on one of my server, booted windows, and in 60 seconds I had to donwload and install them;  :)
[11:21] <ehird> ... since when did gtk2 apps intergrate seamlessly with kde?!
[11:21] <ehird> AWESOME!
[11:21] <DralaFi> Acc\Deny, http://intellinuxgraphics.org/download.html those drivers?
[11:21] <zorglu_> yep lyx is still very good to write text rapidely :)
[11:22] <Acc\Deny> DralaFi: Yep.
[11:22] <binary2k2> DralaFi: speeking of viruses, I have 1 win PC in the house (for the people who are dumb), and I have to shell out like 40 to renew the virus subscription now :(
[11:22] <dhq123> fdoving: the options were the same
[11:23] <DralaFi> Parkotron, well I'm getting increasingly suspicious that anti-virus companies actually create new virii and add holes in their software/windows specifically so that they can conviniently find a cure and release a new product upgrade...
[11:23] <fdoving> dhq123: they were already there?
[11:23] <dhq123> fdoving: yes
[11:23] <DralaFi> ehird, they do? :O cool
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> binary2k2:  i like that avg antivurus tools.. its free for the  unsupported version
[11:23] <linuxbaldi> Alo algum pt-br a
[11:24] <georgeb> DralaFi: I remember that in the 90s there was a rumor saying that McAfee was responsible for about 10% of the virii in the wild :)
[11:24] <fdoving> dhq123: ok, what is the output of 'id username' where username is your login name?
[11:24] <Hawkwind> !pt | linuxbaldi
[11:24] <ubotu> linuxbaldi: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[11:24] <DralaFi> georgeb, how else would they stay in business? :/
[11:24] <ehird> DralaFi: do for me
[11:24] <ehird> same menu styles, icons look good too - antialiasing settings used
[11:24] <ehird> at least, MySQL Administrator is a GTK app last time i checked
[11:25] <binary2k2> DralaFi: I have that norton AV internet security thing on it, with the AV scanner, firewall, anti-spam ...
[11:25] <dhq123> fdoving: dint get you
[11:25] <fdoving> dhq123: is your login name 'dhq' ?
[11:25] <binary2k2> DralaFi: not like I really trust any of it
[11:25] <dhq123> yes
[11:25] <fdoving> dhq123: 'id dhq' what does that output?
[11:25] <dhq123> uid 100
[11:25] <DralaFi> binary2k2, i think i have that too. damn thing's annoying. Have to disable firewall so i can ping my linux box to be sure the ethernet link is active
[11:26] <fdoving> dhq123: that's all?
[11:26] <dhq123> gid 1000(dhq)
[11:26] <georgeb> DralaFi: also, I know that one big AV company appeared because the "chief engineer" was a virii writer; but he had some problems, the goal of writing good virii was to make it unrecognizable by the AVs, and his computer was pretty much infected with his own virii, so he created a basic AV to remove his own virii, and further developed his AV :)
[11:26] <slow-motion> n8
[11:26] <dhq123> groups=1000(dhq
[11:27] <dhq123> fdoving: what do i do now
[11:27] <dhq123> groups=1000(dhq)
[11:27] <dhq123> gid 1000(dhq)
[11:27] <DralaFi> georgeb, that sounds cool. I bet he learned a lot in the process.
[11:27] <fdoving> dhq123: uid=1000(dhq) gid=1000(dhq) groups=1000(dhq) ?
[11:27] <dhq123> fdoving: yes
[11:28] <Parkotron> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/10/23/spamthru_trojan/ < Most innovative malware technique I've seen in a while.
[11:28] <binary2k2> DralaFi: I don't really need the firewall on it, as it's behind a nat and has no ports faceing the internet. but as soon as you try to disable it on my win box it starts saying "Your computer is at risk! you have no firewall active"
[11:28] <spowell> Hello
[11:29] <DralaFi> binary2k2, yes windows likes to spam.  Just if i exit a game it will pop up, as if to 'kindly' let me know...
[11:31] <binary2k2> DralaFi: it wont even block all incomeing connections by default, some "system services" will have full access
[11:32] <dhq123> fdoving: uid=1000(dhq) gid=1000(dhq) groups=1000(dhq),24(cdrom),25(floppy              ideo),46(plugdev),109(lpadmin),111(scanner),113(admin)
[11:32] <zorglu_> binary2k2: oh btw what the port port open by default on ubunut ? :)
[11:32] <DralaFi> binary2k2, lol yeah, easy to rant about windows.
[11:32] <h3sp4wn> DralaFi: Must be poor quality hardware or drivers then
[11:32] <zorglu_> binary2k2: not that easy to rant :)
[11:32] <fdoving> dhq123: good. then try to 'su dhq' and run 'sudo' to see if it works.
[11:33] <DralaFi> h3sp4wn, possible, though I'm blaming win xp home
[11:33] <fdoving> dhq123: run 'sudo -i' or 'sudo id' or something.. just to check.
[11:33] <binary2k2> DralaFi: ubuntu has no open ports on the default install
[11:33] <binary2k2> DralaFi: you start install services, then some open
[11:33] <dhq123> fdoving: i dont have to enter a password now
[11:33] <zorglu_> binary2k2: hue ? last time i looked, aka on dapper, it is more they are ALL open
[11:33] <DralaFi> binary2k2, because it doean't start any servers, I imagine.
[11:34] <fdoving> dhq123: ok, but you're not denied? then you can reboot to the real system.
[11:34] <dhq123> fdoving: thanx a million :)
[11:34] <binary2k2> zorglu_: how can ALL your ports be open?
[11:34] <binary2k2> DralaFi: that's right, no network services anyway
[11:35] <h3sp4wn> pf is a much more powerful firewall than iptables if you are into that type of thing
[11:35] <DralaFi> binary2k2, sshd is indespensible though :)
[11:35] <zorglu_> binary2k2: well simply, you dont block any, as pre sp2 window or dapper, and likly edgy
[11:35] <h3sp4wn> DralaFi: So you have sshd only bound to the internal interface
[11:36] <h3sp4wn> DralaFi: Or only use key based auth
[11:36] <DralaFi> it's better not to block if you don't run anything on the port. Imagine all the netfilter chain checking the kernel has to do *per packet* if you have most of the ports blocked?
[11:36] <binary2k2> DralaFi: i use sshd, but have it set to only alow connections from my LAN, you can also set it up in iptables to only open the port when you "knock" on another port first
[11:37] <zorglu_> mouaoua ok :)
[11:37] <aib> I rebooted after a small update and now get two error messages: "Error opening security policy file /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy" and "Could not open default font fixed". i've read about others with this problem but no solution. X will not start.
[11:37] <DralaFi> binary2k2, heard of port knocking, though not seen or looked for any sortware to do that just yet.
[11:37] <zorglu_> security is hard :)
[11:37] <h3sp4wn> DralaFi: Or use a firewall (i.e pf) where the default policy can be deny with only specific things that are allowed
[11:37] <binary2k2> zorglu_: unless a service is running on a port, it's closed
[11:37] <zorglu_> port knowcking is no more secure that plain password guys :)
[11:37] <DralaFi> h3sp4wn, whatever's the default for sshd. User/pass authentication, not the ssh host key auth.
[11:38] <DralaFi> zorglu_, that is true :)
[11:38] <DralaFi> on both counts
[11:38] <h3sp4wn> Or use a vpn
[11:39] <zorglu_> well as it is part of my job to break protocol, i have some knowledge about this :)
[11:39] <zorglu_> not one that i broke :)
[11:39] <zorglu_> tinc
[11:39] <zorglu_> and what was the others
[11:39] <ehird> i like deny by default firewalls
[11:39] <ehird> far more secure than anything else
[11:39] <binary2k2> in the example i saw, the guy had it set up that you knock on port 21 top open 22, but if you scan port 21 then 22, then 23, it closes again
[11:39] <zorglu_> ah yeah, not vtun either :)
[11:40] <zorglu_> binary2k2: simply use telnet, it is as secure :)
[11:40] <zorglu_> binary2k2: i guess you dont believe me when i tell you that :)
[11:40] <binary2k2> zorglu_: telnet is secure as ssh?
[11:40] <zorglu_> nope as port knocking
[11:40] <binary2k2> zorglu_: no i dont :P
[11:41] <zorglu_> well you should :)
[11:41] <zorglu_> ok am off, have fun.
[11:41] <zorglu_> btw dont forget to do your own crypto, crypto is simple too :)
[11:41] <binary2k2> zorglu_: if you need, ssh over external net, then get good pass :P
[11:41] <DralaFi> better wouls be to make a 10 part port knock. ie. to open port 21, you need to knock on 44332 then 12052, then 62234, then 23423, then .......
[11:41] <dhq> fdoving: am back all seems fine
[11:42] <binary2k2> DralaFi: that is a better idea, yes
[11:42] <fdoving> dhq: nice, tell me if you experience problems. :)
[11:42] <h3sp4wn> Or just use openbsd - I can't see how anyone paranoid about security would use anything else
[11:42] <h3sp4wn> (that is free)
[11:42] <dhq> fdoving: just that all the stuff i had in apache2 mysql all those files are nothere
[11:43] <fdoving> the configs?
[11:43] <DralaFi> h3sp4wn, can't you just port openbsd software to linux and then have a rock-solid secure linux?
[11:43] <binary2k2> there is only 1 was to be totaly secure, turn the system off :P
[11:43] <binary2k2> and then burn the HDD
[11:44] <DralaFi> binary2k2, cut the network cable
[11:44] <h3sp4wn> DralaFi: No
[11:44] <DralaFi> :
[11:44] <DralaFi> :)
[11:44] <h3sp4wn> DralaFi: You can port parts of it (with some work) - but the firewall is streets ahead of iptables
[11:45] <h3sp4wn> DralaFi: And as yet not ported
[11:45] <DralaFi> Acc\Deny, can't you just boot kde on a very small resolution, do your apt stuff and then have i915resolution at the rest of the stuff?
[11:45] <h3sp4wn> DralaFi: isakmpd is ported (and is better than open/free swan
[11:46] <jeff_> hello all, I just installed kubuntu on my desktop machine.  Looks pretty cool so far.  I've got pclinuxos on my laptop and really like it.  My question is:  Does Kubuntu have a program that will allow you to pick, download, and install programs automatically like synaptic in pclinuxos?
[11:46] <DralaFi> h3sp4wn, ahh. I don't really know much about openbsd, except it's run bt Theo and is supposed to be very secure.
[11:46] <cntb> hey guys how do I update locate db ?
[11:46] <h3sp4wn> DralaFi: you could use selinux
[11:46] <h3sp4wn> !selinux
[11:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about selinux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:46] <binary2k2> jeff_: kubuntu uses Adept as the package manager
[11:46] <fdoving> jeff_: there is 'kmenu -> system -> adept manager' - you can also install synaptic if you prefer it.
[11:46] <h3sp4wn> DralaFi: or basilisk or whatever its called
[11:46] <binary2k2> jeff_: but use that to install synaptic :P
[11:46] <DralaFi> h3sp4wn, if you wanted to restrict your machine that much, you could use selinux
[11:46] <TheGateKeeper> jeff_: apt-get install synaptic
[11:47] <georgeb> binary2k2: a post I saw some time ago was something like: "the most secure computer is one that is not connected to Internet; this is way I recomend Telia"(or replace Telia with your "favourite" ISP)
[11:47] <jeff_> ok, thanks, ill check it out
[11:47] <DralaFi> it's all a compromise between security and useability
[11:49] <binary2k2> have you seen those M$ adds where they say "we see security... we see protection"? wee see bull sh**
[11:50] <h3sp4wn> You can go to insane lengths (hardware write protected scsi disks for / and /usr) everything mounted noexec, nosuid except / and /usr
[11:51] <h3sp4wn> But 99.5% of time or more unless you are interested in doing it (to see how to do it) its a waste of time
[11:52] <jeff_> I was wondering if you could install upgraded printer drivers, or update the program the manages the printers.  I went to add a printer that is on my home network on a windows coputer.  I can see the printer on the network but the proper driver isn't listed.
[11:55] <jeff_> I have yet to get a printer working under linux.  But kubuntu has came the closest.  If I try an alternate driver I do get some response from the printer but no print.  If I just had the right driver.
[11:55] <Zamboulie> !mp3
[11:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:56] <h3sp4wn> jeff_: You can install services for unix onto windows (make it look like a lpd printer)
[11:56] <h3sp4wn> jeff_: print services for unix sorry
[11:56] <smaggard> hi again
[11:56] <smaggard> the master is back :D
[11:57] <jeff_> thanks, h3, where can i find more info on that?
[11:59] <Bubba_Gump> whats a good firewall app?
[12:00] <jordi_> anybody knows the GPG key for the Opera repo?
[12:00] <binary2k2> I use firestarter
[12:00] <HymnToLife> !firewall
[12:00] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[12:01] <h3sp4wn> jeff_: microsoft technet maybe (its for windows - maybe try ##windows - I am sure that is something they will know more about)
[12:01] <atticstorm> All, is there a good tool out there to convert large PDF files down smaller, or to convert them to something like a PNG file or HTML?  Thanks.
[12:01] <der_steppenwolf> hi, how can i update kubuntu breezy badger with kde 3.5.5 ?
[12:01] <binary2k2> jordi_: you can get it from the canonical commersial repo
[12:01] <h3sp4wn> der_steppenwolf: you need to upgrade breezy to dapper first
[12:02] <Bubba_Gump> download the dvd torrent
[12:02] <h3sp4wn> der_steppenwolf: or breezy - dapper - edgy (its in edgy by default)
[12:02] <der_steppenwolf> that means i should download or get the whole dapper CD?
[12:02] <Bubba_Gump> get the edgy or dapper cd yeah
[12:03] <h3sp4wn> der_steppenwolf: there are packages for dapper (on kubuntu.org) - or edgy has it by default - your choice
[12:03] <der_steppenwolf> that's angry...
[12:03] <der_steppenwolf> Updating is much more easy with gentoo :-(
[12:04] <binary2k2> der_steppenwolf: you don't need the CD/DVD to upgrade
[12:04] <der_steppenwolf> there are packages for dapper, but i have tried and they are not compatible, are they?
[12:04] <h3sp4wn> No
[12:05] <der_steppenwolf> so, should i update the whole /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[12:05] <binary2k2> der_steppenwolf: just change "dapper" to "breezy" or "edgy" in the sources.list depending on if you want dapper or edgy
[12:06] <der_steppenwolf> ok, thanks
[12:06] <h3sp4wn> breezy -> edgy would be not straightforward
[12:06] <h3sp4wn> breezy -> dapper -> edgy theoretically should work
[12:07] <binary2k2> yeah, that's probably the best way
[12:07] <killermach__> anyone know where to find info on how to install kubuntu via network?
[12:07] <vanhurck> how u mean network
[12:07] <oLLi9o> salve a tutti!
[12:07] <vanhurck> you can easely download it from the net
[12:07] <h3sp4wn> killermach__: what you mean debian installer where you ssh in ? maybe it would be possible
[12:08] <georgeb> atticstorm: package pdftohtml : Translates pdf files into HTML or XML formats, combined with png images. But I don't know if it works with all pdfs
[12:08] <oLLi9o> c' nessuno che parli italiano?
[12:08] <h3sp4wn> killermach__: Look at the debian docs and try to make your own debian installer image maybe you can
[12:09] <oLLi9o> can anyone help me?
[12:09] <dbglt> is there a ubuntu package for libgpod-0.4?
[12:09] <atticstorm> georgeb: Thanks I will apt-get and give it a try.
[12:09] <binary2k2> !it
[12:09] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:09] <oLLi9o> Grazie mille!
[12:10] <killermach__> I have the iso's I could could mount w/ -o loop on the samba server then access them, just need an install to run from knoppix boot or such


[04:44] <archmagas> can i get a cloak? https://launchpad.net/~archmagas
[04:45] <bazhang> archmagas, you dont appear to be a member
[04:45] <bazhang> !member
[04:53] <archmagas> thanks bazhang!
[06:10] <MTecknology> any of you happen to know if the flood bots have their source online?
[06:14] <elky> !floodbots
[06:15] <elky> i think so. they have a wiki page somewhere
[06:17] <rww> MTecknology: no
[17:39] <MichealH> Can someone get AskBot a @ubuntu/bot/* cloak?
[17:40] <MichealH> Alive? :P
[17:41] <Tm_T> patience, dear (:
[17:42] <MichealH> :)
[17:42] <MichealH> Wow... Uhh Compiz is going mad :P
[17:51] <jussi> and what is askbot?
[17:52] <MichealH> jussi: It lives in #ubuntu-stack and #ubuntu-satck-new
[17:53] <jussi> and does?
[17:53] <MichealH> It geta all the AskUbuntu Meta and Support Questions
[17:53] <jussi> and is owned by?
[17:53] <MichealH> And then prints them to the cannel
[17:53] <MichealH> Quite a handy bot :)
[17:53] <MichealH> Just a little demo in -stack :)
[17:55] <jussi> who owns the bot?
[17:55] <MichealH> Me
[17:56] <MichealH> Written in Python :)
[18:00] <MichealH> jussi: The decision is? :)


[11:30]  * Myrtti checks her forehead
[11:39] <Myrtti> yeah, it's tattooed there
[12:08] <Tm_T> Myrtti: oh, you too?
[18:27] <bazhang> heh. he just made an ubuntuforums post with the exact same quiestion, dated *one* minute ago
[18:30] <genii> bazhang: Who?
[18:31] <bazhang> dlevey genii
[18:31] <genii> Ah, OK
[18:53] <genii> Meh. The guy with the 3G card left by the time I got back.
[19:58] <Pici> I think we've been going after users too heavy-handedly when they say that they've done things 'as root'
[20:00] <genii> Pici: Yes, perhaps.
[20:00] <Pici> Personally when I have a lot of admin tasks to do, I drop to sudo -i, and as it stands right now, I'd probably get some sort of stern talking to if I provided a pastebin that said root@mydomain on it.
[20:08] <genii> !lecture
[20:08] <genii> Hm.
[20:10] <Pici> !philosophy
[20:10] <Pici> oh, I didn't even realize that was a real one
[20:10] <genii> Hehe


[09:28] <Unit193> xfce4-terminal <IP_ADDRESS>-1 uploaded by Yves-Alexis Perez (corsac)
[16:58] <flocculant> meeting logs are up
[17:17] <flocculant> blog post re the new tester bits at https://xubuntu.org/?p=4497&preview=true
[17:17] <flocculant> bluesabre especially ^^


[00:05] <fta> bug 337313
[00:06] <asac> end of day i guess ;)
[00:07] <asac> fta: so, tomorrow your last day before trip or will 18th be the last?
[00:07] <asac> oh sorry ;)
[00:08] <BUGabundo> bed time
[00:08] <BUGabundo> see you tomorrow
[00:09] <fta> asac, 17th is the last
[00:09] <asac> heh. ok. didnt realize that its tomorrow already ;)
[00:25] <asac> today i started bug work again ;) finally decided to mark 35k mails as read. now the ubuntu moz bugmail folder is handable with just 15k unread mails ;)
[00:26] <fta> lol
[00:27] <asac> i also read about 1k bugs ;) ... just to put it in line
[00:28] <asac> bugs == bugmail
[00:32] <asac> lp seems to be back ;)
[00:33] <fta> bug 337313
[00:33] <asac> O/
[00:33] <asac> lol
[00:33] <asac> so that was opened?
[00:33] <asac> i mean we had that and we had really high karma for folks uploading software
[00:33] <asac> wasnt good imo
[00:34] <asac> e.g. i upload one package and get 10k translations ;) .... while translators work all day and maybe translate 200 strings ;)
[00:35] <fta> http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/karma-fta-090415.png
[00:36] <asac> fta: guess you didnt update now ;)
[00:36] <asac> we are back to square 1 ;)
[00:37] <fta> didnt update what?
[00:37] <asac> the chart
[00:37] <asac> https://edge.launchpad.net/~fta/+karma
[00:37] <asac> seems they pushed kind of the reset button ;)
[00:37] <asac> probably after a crash because pitti had more karma than launchpad could cope with ;)
[00:38] <asac> heh. he still has 963438 soyuz ;)
[00:38] <asac> i think he had 100 million bfore :)
[00:38] <fta> http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/karma-pitti.txt
[00:39] <asac> heh. ok just 3.6m ;)
[00:47] <fta> oh, ppa uploads now give karma, that's what soyuz is for me
[00:48] <asac> fta: must be the case.
[00:48] <asac> fta: for bugs you also get karma if you do it outside of ubuntu
[00:48] <asac> but its tracked separately
[00:48] <asac> e.g. one part is "distribution" karma ... the is "overall karma"
[00:49] <asac> you can see that here: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+topcontributors
[00:49] <asac> "distribution karma" "total karma"
[00:49] <asac> heh
[00:49] <asac> the soyus table is funny
[00:50] <asac> "soyu"
[00:50] <asac> "soyuz karma" "total karma"
[00:50] <asac> i doubt that the soyuz row is in-archive builds
[00:51] <asac> fta: i guess ppa builds for packages that are also in the archive get accounted to "distribution" part too
[00:54] <fta> pitti maintains a weekly ppa for hundreds of lang packs, it's a karma booster ;)
[00:54] <asac> hah
[00:54] <asac> thats the source ;)
[00:54] <asac> now we found it
[00:54] <asac> funny how much energy can be wasted on trying to find the sense in launchpad karma ;)
[07:23] <asac> good morning :)
[10:15] <asac> huh? i cannot change the firefox-3.1 target of bug 317226
[10:15] <asac> to invalid
[10:15] <asac> bug in firefox
[10:15] <asac> err launchpad ;)
[10:18] <BUGabundo> eheh
[10:18] <BUGabundo> but it says 3.5
[10:21] <asac> bug 362216
[10:22] <BUGabundo> lol
[10:22] <BUGabundo> now it doesn't
[10:29] <BUGabundo> This bug has already been reported on firefox-3.5 (ubuntu).
[10:29] <BUGabundo> LOLL
[19:46] <BUGabundo> fta gwibber died with the last update :((((
[19:46] <BUGabundo> nice timing
[19:50] <fta> ?
[19:51] <BUGabundo> fta http://paste.ubuntu.com/152283/
[19:51] <BUGabundo> let me nag gwibber ppl too
[19:54] <fta> BUGabundo, "/usr/local/bin/gwibber"? are you sure it's mine???
[19:55] <fta> fta@ix:~ $ which gwibber
[19:55] <fta> /usr/bin/gwibber
[19:56] <BUGabundo> daily ppa?
[19:56] <BUGabundo> /usr/local/bin/gwibber
[19:56] <BUGabundo> ops
[19:56] <BUGabundo> bzr effect?
[19:56] <BUGabundo> let me purge and reinstal
[19:57] <BUGabundo> $ which gwibber /usr/local/bin/gwibber
[19:57] <BUGabundo> just reinstaled
[20:00] <BUGabundo> fta any tips?
[20:02] <BUGabundo> going home [[]]
[20:03] <fta> dpkg -S /usr/local/bin/gwibber ?
[20:03] <fta> BUGabundo, ^^
[20:03] <fta> fta@ix:~ $ dpkg -c /var/cache/apt/archives/gwibber_1.0.2~bzr301-0ubuntu1~daily1_all.deb | grep /bin
[20:03] <fta> drwxr-xr-x root/root         0 2009-04-16 19:13 ./usr/bin/
[20:03] <fta> -rwxr-xr-x root/root      2049 2009-04-16 19:13 ./usr/bin/gwibber
[20:03] <fta> BUGabundo, I don't ship /usr/local/bin/gwibber
[20:04] <BUGabundo> dpkg: /usr/local/bin/gwibber not found.
[20:04] <BUGabundo> ahh could be bash cache
[20:04] <fta> so it's your sudo python thing, as usual
[20:04] <BUGabundo> I purge it already
[20:04] <BUGabundo> I know you don't like it
[20:04] <fta> ;)
[20:04] <fta> exec bash
[20:05] <BUGabundo> $ whereis gwibber
[20:05] <BUGabundo> gwibber: /usr/bin/gwibber /usr/local/bin/gwibber /usr/share/gwibber
[20:06] <BUGabundo> $ sudo rm /usr/local/bin/gwibber
[20:06] <fta> lol
[20:06] <BUGabundo> $ gwibber
[20:06] <BUGabundo> bash: /usr/local/bin/gwibber: No such file or directory
[20:06] <BUGabundo> bah
[20:06] <fta> exec bash
[20:06] <BUGabundo> I did that already
[20:06] <fta> hm
[20:07] <BUGabundo> $ cd ~;exec bash
[20:07] <BUGabundo> bugabundo@blubug:~$ gwibber
[20:07] <BUGabundo> Traceback (most recent call last):
[20:07] <BUGabundo>   File "/usr/bin/gwibber", line 55, in <module>
[20:07] <BUGabundo> even apport is fireing now
[20:07] <BUGabundo> I though it was disable for release
[20:07] <fta> 55:     from gwibber.client import GwibberClient
[20:08] <fta> oh
[20:08] <fta> i see
[20:08] <fta>     from . import urlshorter
[20:08] <fta> ImportError: cannot import name urlshorter
[20:08] <fta> i need yet another dep
[20:09] <BUGabundo> ahhhhh
[20:09] <BUGabundo> so its _your_ fault
[20:09] <BUGabundo> LOL
[20:09] <BUGabundo> what is it so I can install it
[20:09] <fta> donno, i need to search
[20:10] <BUGabundo> ping me tommorow or email me.... thanks
[20:10]  * BUGabundo cd ~
[20:29] <fta> asac, did you get the email from my bot?
[22:04] <BUGabundo> fta did you find anything?
[22:04] <BUGabundo> _other then having me pinging some one I don't know_?
[22:08] <fta> bug 328972
[22:09] <fta> oh, http://identi.ca/macno != https://edge.launchpad.net/~macno
[22:09] <fta> sorry
[22:20] <BUGabundo> yay
[23:17] <asac> fta: yeah. no subject though
[23:17] <fta> yeah, no time to fix that, it's a direct call to sendmail
[23:18] <BUGabundo> fta $ cd /tmp ; bzr branch lp:gwibber ; sudo cp -R gwibber/gwibber/urlshorter /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/gwibber/urlshorter
[23:20] <BUGabundo> fta can you respin the bot for rev302 ?
[23:20] <BUGabundo> oldmamuc fixed it
[23:20] <fta> didn't receive the commit mail, yet
[23:21] <BUGabundo> ok
[23:21] <fta> ok, got it
[23:35] <fta> 2009/04/14	141935	37031	2568	0	0	1456	100880
[23:35] <fta> 2009/04/15	149490	37252	2565	0	0	1464	108209
[23:35] <fta> 2009/04/16	47764	11340	775	0	0	444	35205
[23:35] <fta> 2009/04/17	49353	11319	769	0	0	444	36821
[23:35] <BUGabundo> humm missing header?
[23:35] <fta> d'oh, karma crash
[23:35] <fta> http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/karma-fta.txt
[23:36] <BUGabundo> eheh
[23:36] <BUGabundo> got hit too, after all?
[23:37] <fta> my karma used to come from bzr, now, it's from soyuz (ppa)
[23:38] <BUGabundo> lol
[23:38] <BUGabundo> all those bots!
[23:38] <fta> but yeah, rules seem to be back like 1 month ago before they turned crazy
[23:39] <BUGabundo> I was growing 1k per day
[23:39] <BUGabundo> was at 18k
[23:39] <BUGabundo> droped to 5k
[23:39] <BUGabundo> even Mark got at 2,3k
[23:52] <fta> BUGabundo, gwibber's ready
[23:53] <BUGabundo> fta thanks


 whats super button on disco release? i usually use windows button
 the same thing
 how to the task bar on the desktop only appear on the specific desktop
[06:35] <nickx> how to clear the terminal history ?
 history -c
[06:36] <nickx> Then i have to reboot ?
 no need
[06:37] <nickx> the history is still there.
[06:38] <lynorian_> nickx: press control+shift+x you mean
[06:40] <diogenes_> nickx, run: texedito ~/.bash_history and delete the content nd sve.
[06:40] <diogenes_> texteditor*
[08:09] <Nickx> how to save changes when i use vi editor ?
 `:w` or if you like to save and exit `:x`
[08:20] <Nickx> i don't find instructions. How to remove a blank line ?
[08:23] <apt-ghetto> Nickx: What is your problem? What are you trying to do?
[08:24] <Nickx> I try to edit a file in vi editor. I don't figure oout all the edit functions.
[08:25] <apt-ghetto> I recommend you to read a vi(m) tutorial. It is essential to understand the different modes.
[08:25] <apt-ghetto> If you are in the command mode, move the cursor on the line, you want to delete and press `dd`.
[08:30] <Nickx> thank you.
 @Nickx [<Nickx> i don't find instructions. How to remove a blank line ?], or join #vim for progressive learning
[12:36] <Guest44156> hello everyone
[12:41] <mindsout> Hey, I wanted to try using my phone as a mic with WO Mic and I had to install a driver called "snd-aloop" for it to work. Now when I do "sudo modprobe remove snd-aloop" it says this:
[12:41] <mindsout> "modprobe: FATAL: Module remove not found in directory /lib/modules/5.0.0-20-generic".
[12:42] <mindsout> How do i uninstall this driver?
[12:46] <mindsout> Now it says that the module is in use.
[12:57] <apt-ghetto> mindsout: Please read `man 8 modprobe` and ask, if something is unclear
[13:06] <nick1> Is it possible to reset usb_modeswitch.conf to default ?
[13:09] <apt-ghetto> Guest18908: You mean /etc/usb_modeswitch.conf?
[13:12] <mindsout> How do I find out what is using a module so I can remove it with modprobe?
[13:12] <Guest18908> I change it here.  vi /lib/udev/rules.d/40-usb_modeswitch.rules
[13:21] <apt-ghetto> Guest18908: Then change it back or remove the file /lib/udev/rules.d/40-usb_modeswitch.rules and reinstall usb-modeswitch-data
[13:22] <Guest18908> Will all earlier changes be removed ?
[13:23] <apt-ghetto> I have no idea, what "all earlier changes" mean
[13:25] <apt-ghetto> Normally, before changing a system configuration, you make a backup of the file and after that, you apply the changes
[13:25] <apt-ghetto> Then you test the new configuration and if it is not working, you replace the changed config with the backup of the config
[13:36] <mindsout> How do I find out what is using a module so I can remove it with modprobe?
[13:39] <apt-ghetto> `lsmod | grep MODULENAME`
[13:43] <mindsout> And then how do I stop them or uninstall them?