[12:01] <cafuego> Panzer_: Yeah, but thsoe are irrelevant parts.
[12:01] <EmxBA> foug: check out vertical and horizontal refreshing in xorg.conf
[12:01] <r4v5> EmxBA: it was a hhos-type joke
[12:02] <Panzer_> laugh.  still no pony for you.
[12:02] <EmxBA> pl ten r4v5 :)
[12:02] <salty> any shoutcast client apps out there that doesn't use jack?
[12:03] <mc44> salty: just to listen to shoutcast streams?
[12:03] <Treedude> hey, i need some help getting a PCMCIA Wireless network card to work with ubuntu, i just installed Ubuntu a couple of hours ago and ive never used it before :P
[12:03] <salty> no...broadcast
[12:03] <jchs> Anyone know how to get streaming audio working (e.g. BBC website) for Feisty Fawn?
[12:03] <kbrooks> Treedude, does it work?
[12:03] <vafada> what time does 7.04 gets released ?:D
[12:03] <robdeman> neoj: yes
[12:03] <kbrooks> vafada, dunno
[12:03] <PriceChild> vafada, #ubuntu+1
[12:04] <hayesben> Treedude - which card is it?
[12:04] <foug> EmxBA: vertRefresh and HorizSync
[12:04] <mc44> jchs: copy the location and open with xine or amarok is my technique
[12:04] <roland_> if i want to have webserver serving my webpage and i bought domain name as mydomain.com  and i need to have www.mydomain.com   do i need to set the hostname of the server machine to www ?
[12:04] <salty> mc44, no...broadcast
[12:04] <Panzer_> ok that is a tease though.  with them saying tomorrow.
[12:04] <Treedude> not sure
[12:04] <neoj> robdeman: does it work? if not, what is the errormessage? (logs in /var/logs/apache2/)
[12:04] <Treedude> it was the cheapest i could find :P
[12:04] <Panzer_> don't they know tomorrow never comes
[12:04] <EmxBA> Treedude: which card?
[12:05] <kbrooks> Panzer_, talk in #ubuntu+1
[12:05] <EmxBA> foug: yes
[12:05] <mc44> salty: sorry, icecast is the only one I know. dunno if that is jack
[12:05] <SonicChao> I am getting a very strange message. A very strange one. :| After installing Kubuntu-desktop via aptitude, I got this message about 'Postfix Configuration'?
[12:05] <SonicChao> What does that mean?
[12:05] <hayesben> Treedude - You don't know if it's working or you don't know what type of card it is?  You gotta be joking?!
[12:05] <rubso> lol guys, got Power Management Fixed in Kubuntu?
[12:05] <Treedude> i dont know what type it is
[12:05] <Panzer_> just making a joke.  I am still running dapper.
[12:05] <robdeman> neoj: TracError: The environment options "TRAC_ENV" or "TRAC_ENV_PARENT_DIR" or the mod_python options "TracEnv" or "TracEnvParentDir" are missing.  Trac requires one of these options to locate the Trac environment(s).
[12:05] <foug> EmxBA: should i just double them, or what? i'm not so good at linux yet
[12:06] <hayesben> Treedude - what did the box say it was?
[12:06] <Panzer_> hoping that treedude will look up the pcmcia card
[12:06] <Zambezi> Anyone runing a FTP with vsftpd?
[12:06] <salty> mc44, icecast doesn't use jack...but i need to broadcast to a shoutcast server..thnx anyway
[12:06] <Panzer_> and see what chipset is there
[12:06] <robdeman> neoj: I did set SetEnv TRAC_ENV_PARENT_DIR "/var/lib/trac"
[12:06] <Panzer_> I am running vsftpd
[12:06] <Dante123> hey, when can a person download feisty.......I know the 19th.....but the 19th in what time zone......Europe, South Africa, NYC???
[12:06] <gon4o> http://i.linux-bg.org/g/b-392109577screen.png#800;640
[12:06] <EmxBA> check this, foug :http://www.sh.nu/nvidia/gtf.php
[12:06] <PriceChild> Dante123, #ubuntu+1 please
[12:06] <hayesben> Treedude - what does the ifconfig bring back (as well as the lspci command)?
[12:06] <Treedude> hayesben, i bought it 2 years ago, i cant remember what it said on the box and the card has no writing on it at all
[12:07] <EmxBA> Dante123: UTC, it'll be released during 19th april
[12:07] <jchs> mc44: Tried xine and it gives message: Error loading library cook.so
[12:07] <PriceChild> EmxBA, if it is ready...
[12:07] <zYe_> is anyone here really familiar with imwheel?
[12:07] <SonicChao> !postfix
[12:07] <ubotu> postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[12:07] <Dante123> how close are we to 19th UTC???
[12:07] <neoj> robdeman: I have set DefaultInitEnv TRAC_ENV_PARENT_DIR /var/www/trac/ in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/fcgid.conf
[12:07] <SonicChao> MTA? What?!?! I just use GMAIL D:
[12:07] <jchs> mc44: Maybe I'll try amarok
[12:07] <mc44> jchs: what version of ubuntua re you running
[12:07] <SonicChao> Can I just select 'No configuration'?
[12:07] <EmxBA> it is, PriceChild
[12:07] <mc44> jchs: that uses xine as a backend
[12:08] <EmxBA> (from what I've experienced as daily updater :) )
[12:08] <neoj> robdeman: also notice its DefaultInitEnv and not SetEnv
[12:08] <jchs> mc44: Feisty Fawn daily build from a couple of days ago
[12:08] <PriceChild> EmxBA, we hope
[12:08] <zYe_> is anyone here really familiar with imwheel?
[12:08] <mc44> jchs: well amarok works on feisty for me doing streams
[12:09] <mc44> jchs: try sudo apt-get libxine-extracodecs
[12:09] <mc44> jchs: *install
[12:09] <neoj> robdeman: and restart apache when you change something (just saying, I dont know how advanced you are:)
[12:09] <dutch> how do I prevent Konqueror from opening when I click on a link...neeed FF to open instead
[12:10] <hayesben> Treedude - if you run the lspci command, can you see your wireless card listed?
[12:10] <robdeman> neoj:what about ScriptAlias /trac /usr/share/trac/cgi-bin/trac.cgi ?
[12:10] <salty> dutch, system>preferences>preferred applications
[12:10] <Treedude> how do i run that?
[12:10] <robdeman> neoj: I mean ScriptAlias /trac /usr/share/trac/cgi-bin/trac.fcgi
[12:10] <dutch> salty, thanks
[12:10] <EmxBA> open gnome terminal and type lspci, Treedude
[12:10] <salty> yw
[12:10] <Treedude> ty
[12:10] <hayesben> open up a terminal console (Applications -> Terminal) and type in lspci
[12:11] <robdeman> neoj: oh w8 it works!
[12:11] <neoj> robdeman: nice \o/
[12:11] <robdeman> neoh: nice thanks! im off to bed!
[12:11] <neoj> np
[12:12] <zYe_> is anyone here really familiar with imwheel?
[12:12] <foug> EmxBA: have you changed yours?
[12:13] <Death_Sargent> what do I edit to make the noacpi command default when I boot
[12:13] <Treedude> hayesben, there's a cardbus controller, that what im looking for?
[12:13] <jchs> mc44: Thanks, I'll try that once amarok has finished downloading
[12:13] <EmxBA> no; horiz refresh is 28.0 - 51.0 and vertrefresh 43.0 - 70.0
[12:13] <Death_Sargent> anyone
[12:13] <EmxBA> foug,
[12:13] <Death_Sargent> it sais grub.conf but I can't find that
[12:13] <hayesben> Treedude - if your wireless card is working, you should be able to run ifconfig and see if it's acquiring an ip address.  If ubuntu isn't loading it up, you will need to get the vendor codes for the hardware and do a search.  Once you find the hardware, you can download the windows drivers and install ndiswrapper and install the drivers that way to get it working.
[12:13] <mc44> jchs: send me the link you are trying?
[12:13] <foug> EmxBA: my vert is 60, hmm
[12:13] <EmxBA> Death_Sargent: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:13] <liz_> Treedude: try iwconfig too it should tell you various wireless info
[12:14] <foug> EmxBA: it just lags a lot when i resize windows, dragging them around not so much
[12:14] <hayesben> liz - yeah, i forgot about the iwconfig command.
[12:14] <Death_Sargent> that's what I edited
[12:14] <zYe_> !paste
[12:14] <EmxBA> I've experienced such problems with bad driver (vesa) and small rates
[12:14] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:14] <Death_Sargent> but when I looked at it while booting it was not there
[12:14] <Treedude> ok, ty all, ill get on that
[12:15] <Treedude> i may be back :P
[12:15] <Death_Sargent> where would I put the command ?
[12:15] <Death_Sargent> before or after boot
[12:15] <EmxBA> after, Death_Sargent
[12:15] <Death_Sargent> thast where it is
[12:15] <Death_Sargent> how come it does not show up in grub?
[12:16] <shoot^> anyone have any experience with uswsusp? i'm getting an odd error when i resume a hibernated suspend. gnome fires up alright, but repeatedly presents me with the shutdown menu; i click cancel, it reappears. eventually it vanishes, then gnome doesnt respond, even after a ctrl + alt + backspace restart.
[12:16] <salty> !anyone
[12:16] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:16] <zYe_> can anyone explain this imwheel file to me? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16320/
[12:16] <Death_Sargent> we have a rule in the e107 chat
[12:16] <Death_Sargent> just state the problem
[12:17] <n00tz> see ya guys tomorrow
[12:17] <Otter> Hi everyone. I work in a corp type enviroment. I need to add a Toisha printer to my Edgy machine. I can hit it from my VMWARe session but can't get it working quite right with linux.. anyone have any pointers?
[12:17] <EmxBA> Death_Sargent: maybe you've editing the wrong sections. e.g. you have two ubuntus on your pc, and you've edited parameters for one of them
[12:17] <n00tz> !cups
[12:17] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[12:17] <n00tz> /logout
[12:17] <scamboy> helo everyone!!!
[12:17] <Otter> Cups can talk to a Samba shared printer?
[12:18] <hayesben> Treedude - Two more areas to look at.  If you go to System -> Device Manager & System -> Networking, you should be able to visually see if the card is loaded properly.  The Device Manager will give you more info about the card in question to help you in your search.
[12:18] <Death_Sargent> nope
[12:18] <Death_Sargent> this is the correct session
[12:18] <Death_Sargent> actually I have 4 avail
[12:18] <salty> Otter, have ya tried the toshiba site?
[12:18] <scamboy> can someone get me the driver for SAMBA 75 edge usb card?
[12:18] <Death_Sargent> 2.6.17-11 and .17-10
[12:18] <hayesben> Otter - Yes, it can talk to a shared printer.
[12:18] <Death_Sargent> plus the respective recovery modes
[12:19] <Death_Sargent> should I just add to all?
[12:19] <odix> i need some major help
[12:19] <Otter> salty: just drivers, and edgy comes ith the correct drivers
[12:19] <salty> oh ok
[12:19] <Dante123> 10:18 PM UTC
[12:19] <odix> my directly connected computer running ubuntu to my wireless router takes a minute or two to load a page on a 6mb line whereas my laptop computers using wireless download much faster
[12:19] <odix> wtf ?
[12:20] <punktux> how to create a shortcut command for a 'long' command with lots of arguments
[12:20] <jchs> mc44: Link is http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/networks/radio4/aod.shtml?radio4/nowshow
[12:20] <zYe_> explain imwheel file to me.... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16320/
[12:20] <Slike> hi, can anyone explain me what kernel headers actually do, what's their use? i know what the kernel image does, i understand what the source code is, but these "headers" are rather vague...
[12:20] <Kaur> punktux: write a script
[12:20] <Death_Sargent> not session boot thing
[12:20] <EmxBA> punktux: alias
[12:20] <Death_Sargent> brains failing
[12:21] <smcmurray> I can't find Wine in synaptic under Feisty...
[12:22] <odix> can anyone help me
[12:22] <Zorlin> Hello odix
[12:22] <Zorlin> what do you need help with?
[12:22] <EmxBA> smcmurray: sudo apt-get install wine should do the job
[12:22] <odix> my directly connected computer running ubuntu to my wireless router takes a minute or two to load a page on a 6mb line whereas my laptop computers using wireless download much faster
[12:22] <Zorlin> hmmm. peculiar.
[12:22] <hayesben> smcmurray - have you added the universal & multiverse repos?
[12:22] <mc44> jchs: no you want the link in the popup which says : Listen to this in a standalone player
[12:23] <neoj> Slike: simplified, when you compile programs that want to "talk" to the kernel, they need to know how to do it. The headers tells them how :)
[12:23] <odix> ya i know
[12:23] <Zorlin> odix, is your network card configured properly
[12:23] <odix> yes ? i think so.. im online on my directly connected now
[12:23] <Zorlin> oh okay
[12:23] <odix> i get the bar at the bottom on firefox looking up....waiting for... and it just takes forever
[12:23] <Slike> neoj: great, thanks: *.h files i suppose?
[12:23] <neoj> yeah
[12:23] <Zorlin> try google-searching for 'oz speed test'
[12:24] <zYe_> please, explain imwheel file to me.... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16320/
[12:24] <Zorlin> try performing that test, see the results.
[12:24] <Zorlin> its basically a download speed test.
[12:24] <smcmurray> hayesben: package wine is not available
[12:24] <jrib> zYe_: have you taken a look at imwheel's man page?
[12:24] <Zorlin> if you get near full speeds on it then its a firefox problem
[12:24] <mc44> jchs: i.e. http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/shows/rpms/radio4/nowshow.ram
[12:24] <jchs> mc44: I've installed the FireFox MediaPlayer Connectivity extension which seems OK with this link but ...
[12:24] <odix> i have done those
[12:24] <Zorlin> near full-ish speeds?
[12:24] <Zorlin> what you'd expect?
[12:24] <zYe_> jrib, nope
[12:24] <odix> well it seems like when i reload a page it goes faster
[12:24] <mp_> i install xubuntu-desktop, id like to remove gnome and everything in ubuntu-desktop
[12:25] <jchs> mc44: ... here is the other link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/shows/rpms/radio4/nowshow.ram
[12:25] <Slike> neoj: if a kernel module has to be compiled, does it both need the headers and the source or is one of these sufficient?
[12:25] <mp_> whats an easy way to do that?
[12:25] <jrib> zYe_: I'm reading through it now, take a look at http://imwheel.sourceforge.net/imwheel.1.html sections about imwheelrc
[12:25] <odix> the first time it went 324, the second 782 and on my laptop the first time being wireless it went 1.3mbps
[12:25] <Zorlin> MP, google "puregnome"
[12:25] <mc44> jchs: yeah thats what i just said above :p
[12:25] <mp_> k
[12:25] <odix> its weird
[12:25] <mc44> jchs: and does that link work?
[12:25] <jchs> mc44: sorry - posts overlapped!
[12:25] <ricardator> pls... i can't check my emails (gmail and hotmail) through ubuntu-feisty... i have enabled cookies and javascript in browser...
[12:25] <mp_> ty
[12:25] <Zorlin> have fun mate
[12:25] <ricardator> anyone can help me?
[12:25] <Zorlin> glad to help
[12:25] <Zorlin> yes ricard?
[12:25] <neoj> Slike: the headers.
[12:25] <jrib> ricardator: other web pages work ok?
[12:25] <Zorlin> Hmm.
[12:26] <ricardator> jrib, yes
[12:26] <Zorlin> try logging onto a site like the ubuntu forums?
[12:26] <Zorlin> that uses cookies and Jscript etc?
[12:26] <jrib> ricardator: what happens when you visit gmail?
[12:26] <Zorlin> if that works it might be a problem with hotmail
[12:26] <Zorlin> or gmail, maybe you dont accept cookies from them
[12:26] <Slike> neoj: so the source is only needed if you'd like to rebuild the kernel on your own?
[12:26] <Zorlin> i dont know =_=
[12:27] <hayesben> smcmurray - see if there is a feisty repo for : deb http://wine.lowvoice.nl/apt feisty main.  There is for edgy.
[12:27] <EmxBA> and build-essential, Slike
[12:27] <Death_Sargent> hey when will fiesty be avail
[12:27] <Death_Sargent> none of the DL mirrors are working
[12:27] <ricardator> in fact, i can enter on main page... i put my info to log , and the connection with email server lost
[12:27] <EmxBA> check #ubuntu+1, Death_Sargent
[12:27] <Dante123> Death_Sargent...not damn soon enough for me.
[12:27] <ricardator> i can log in in forum
[12:27] <ricardator> s
[12:28] <jchs> mc44: The external player link launches the MediaPlayer Connectivity extension's window and clicking that link launches xine, which fails as before.
[12:28] <neoj> Slike: yes
[12:28] <Zorlin> Death sargent
[12:28] <mc44> jrib: add avail to the regex :p
[12:28] <combatmode> what is Debian?
[12:28] <Zorlin> Fiesty will be released at 6:00 am GMT
[12:28] <Zorlin> or Grenich Mean Time
[12:28] <combatmode> ubuntu debian?
[12:28] <Slike> build-essential is a package that installs all the the basic compiler tools like gcc, or is it something kernel-specific?
[12:28] <smcmurray> hayesben: universe is heaywire right now. I'll wrestle a bit
[12:28] <EmxBA> Linux distribution, combatmode
[12:28] <Zorlin> !debian
[12:28] <ubotu> Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[12:28] <mc44> jchs: try running xine from a terminal with that link
[12:28] <EmxBA> that first, Slike
[12:28] <mc44> jchs: ie xine http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/shows/rpms/radio4/nowshow.ram
[12:28] <Zorlin> darn that bot is useful
[12:29] <EmxBA> Zorlin: really?
[12:29] <EmxBA> 6:00?
[12:29] <Slike> thx very much, learned a lot in a very short timespan
[12:29] <Zorlin> Apparently so
[12:29] <Slike> got to go, bye and thanks again!
[12:29] <Zorlin> Its 6:30am here, and i'm GMT+08
[12:29] <ricardator> anyone? i know is kind a weird... but simply i just don't know what to do
[12:29] <grayman> is ubuntu.com overloaded?
[12:29] <Zorlin> so it should be released in roughly 7 and a half hours
[12:29] <EmxBA> yes it is, grayman  :D
[12:29] <grayman> heh
[12:29] <salty> GMT-5 here
[12:29] <Zorlin> 7.5 hours to Fiesty Fawn Launch, basically
[12:29] <grayman> guess that people are waiting for feisty
[12:30] <Wikzo> How long is it gonna take for a torrent to come out? I mean, someone have to download it first, before he/she can seed it, right?
[12:30] <EmxBA> utc+2 here.
[12:30] <odix> it just takes forever to "looking up X"
[12:30] <scamboy> !samba
[12:30] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:30] <EmxBA> yes Wikzo , someone with pretty fast connnection shall do that :)
[12:30] <scamboy> !drivers
[12:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:30] <Zorlin> Wikzo, they would probably just host it themselves
[12:30] <Zorlin> As in, seed it themselves for the first while
[12:30] <scamboy> !pcmia
[12:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pcmia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:30] <Zorlin> until people could seed stable-ly
[12:30] <EmxBA> !pcmcia > scamboy
[12:31] <Zorlin> !pcmcia scamboy
[12:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pcmcia scamboy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:31] <grayman> heh
[12:31] <Zorlin> o.o?
[12:31] <Zorlin> !pcmcia
[12:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pcmcia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:31] <grayman> i bet that repositories will be overloaded too
[12:31] <Zorlin> !pcmcia
[12:31] <EmxBA> !PCMCIA
[12:31] <EmxBA> damn bot
[12:31] <scamboy> thanks guys
[12:31] <Zorlin> evil thing.
[12:31] <Zorlin> !pcmcia
[12:31] <ompaul> !enter
[12:31] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:31] <swedekid> can anyone help me install wine on fiesty fawn?
[12:31] <harry> when exactly is feisty being released?
[12:31] <Zorlin> harry
[12:31] <ompaul> the bot will not reply to repeated requests for the same word
[12:31] <Zorlin> 7.5 hours to go
[12:31] <Zorlin> oh ok
[12:31] <scamboy> i am looking for samba 75 edge driver or software
[12:31] <Wikzo> http://bradfriesen.com/?p=40#comment-11
[12:32] <Zorlin> !samba
[12:32] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:32] <salty> !jackd
[12:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jackd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:32] <Zorlin> !pcmcia
[12:32] <Wikzo> 1 left :D http://bradfriesen.com/?p=40#comment-11
[12:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pcmcia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:32] <jchs> mc44: OK. Tried running from terminal -> same error as before about cook.so
[12:32] <ompaul> !msgthebot | Zorlin
[12:32] <ubotu> Zorlin: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[12:32] <swedekid> !wine
[12:32] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[12:32] <mc44> jchs: :(, works for me
[12:32] <Zorlin> huh?
[12:32] <hayesben> swedekid - have a look at your system now.  Wine is installed for you!
[12:32] <mc44> jchs: no idea, sorry
[12:32] <Zorlin> No, apparently its at 6AM gmt
[12:32] <swedekid> erallY?
[12:32] <Zorlin> not midnight GMT.
[12:32] <hayesben> :)
[12:33] <EmxBA> it's 22:33 utc
[12:33] <Zorlin> Oh okay
[12:33] <ompaul> @now gmt
[12:33] <uvercinka> hi. when will be feisty fawn will be released
[12:33] <Zorlin> Guys, know what this reminds me of?
[12:33] <ricardator> jrib, so? any idea...?
[12:33] <Zorlin> !now gmt
[12:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about now gmt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:33] <EmxBA> uvercinka: check #ubuntu+1
[12:33] <Zorlin> !now
[12:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about now - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:33] <swedekid> hayesban: i cant find it
[12:33] <Madpilot> @now gmt
[12:33] <Zorlin> know what this reminds me of
[12:33] <EmxBA> Zorlin: please stop playing with bot and use it privately by messaging it (/msg)
[12:33] <ompaul> Zorlin, please don't mess with the bot thanks
[12:33] <thoreauputic> @now utc
[12:33] <ubotu> Current time in Etc/UTC: April 18 2007, 22:33:57 - Next meeting: Development Team in 16 hours 26 minutes
[12:33] <uvercinka> thanks emxba
[12:33] <zYe_> zorlin stfu
[12:34] <zYe_> thx
[12:34] <hayesben> lol! :) (only joking mate)
[12:34] <Zorlin> sorry...
[12:34] <Zorlin> god, lol.
[12:34] <ompaul> !noob | zYe_
[12:34] <ubotu> zYe_: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[12:34] <salty> swedekid, try typing 'whereis wine' in your terminal
[12:34] <jrib> ricardator: yes, that's kind of strange.  Have you tried a different browser?  Does it happen on windows if you have it?
[12:34] <Madpilot> thoreauputic, odd that the bot knows 'utc', but not 'gmt' as a timezone
[12:34] <Zorlin> hooray for ubotu :O
[12:34] <Zorlin> i hate those words.
[12:35] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: well, I guess utc is the canonical designation ( pun intended)
[12:35] <Antioch> Judging by the official website is not responding - Im assuming 7.4 was released?
[12:35] <frederific> is ubuntu.com down, or is it just my internet being dodgy?
[12:35] <jchs> mc44: Thanks anyway.
[12:35] <Zorlin> This reminds me of the time when the xbox 360 was launched.
[12:35] <cables> frederific, it was up five minutes ago
[12:35] <combatmode> Is it possible to drag files to a external harddrive
[12:35] <Madpilot> thoreauputic, heh. 'gmt' and 'zulu' should both be aliased to 'utc'
[12:35] <Zorlin> Everyone queueing outside the stores to buy one
[12:35] <thoreauputic> frederific: it's a great disturbance in the force
[12:35] <cables> combatmode, yep
[12:35] <swedekid> salty: it says 0 items found when i search for it
[12:35] <combatmode> But it say i can't
[12:35] <Jordan_U> frederific, Down here too
[12:35] <Antioch> frederific - yes it down for me too
[12:35] <ompaul> !offtopic
[12:35] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:35] <EmxBA> frederific: you're right, site's down.
[12:35] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: "zulu" is *so* American...
[12:36] <salty> swedekid, then it's not installed...how did you try to install it?
[12:36] <frederific> OK, thought so. Are there any chanops around that could put it in the topic?
[12:36] <Madpilot> thoreauputic, civil aviation uses it to, not just American & not just military
[12:36] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: ah, Ok then I sit corrected :)
[12:36] <combatmode> cables. Error while copying to "/media/usbdisk".
[12:36] <ompaul> frederific, give me a source for the information
[12:37] <combatmode> cables. You do not have permissions to write this folder
[12:37] <swedekid> salty: i downloaded the 0.9.35 one, its a .tar.bz file
[12:37] <jchs> mc44: I've just installed amorak but it gives the message: There is no available decoder
[12:37] <Dani> hy if i install edubuntu for my little sisters but i want the full power of ubuntu which should i download edubuntu or ubuntu
[12:37] <combatmode> cables. how do i fix that
[12:37] <cables> combatmode, i don't know.
[12:37] <combatmode> cables. usually it works?
[12:38] <MLimburg> hmmm, running the native neverwinter nights client .. getting a nasty crackling through the sound .. nothing else seems to be causing it
[12:38] <salty> swedekid, i've found the best way for me to get wine installed is to apt-get it
[12:38] <Zorlin> Dani: You can install the ubuntu-desktop after installing edubuntu
[12:38] <cables> combatmode, for me, yes.
[12:38] <frederific> ompaul: the fact that I and several others are unable to access it. Or did you mean something else?
[12:38] <Jordan_U> Dani, I would say download regular Ubuntu, edubuntu is more targeted for schools running thin clients
[12:38] <Zorlin> You can upgrade it through apt-get if needed
[12:38] <swedekid> i did that
[12:38] <ompaul> frederific, now you have me confused what do you want in the topic
[12:38] <Dani> zorlin so i download and install edubuntu and i can use the update program to get ubuntu packages
[12:38] <frederific> ompaul: that ubuntu.com seems to be down
[12:38] <Jordan_U> Dani, Regular Ubuntu is also much easier to install
[12:38] <Zorlin> if you wanted to yes
[12:39] <Zorlin> but regular would be better.
[12:39] <swedekid> salty: i did that
[12:39] <salty> swedekid, look in your home directory and look for .wine
[12:39] <combatmode> How to make a external harddrive able to write or drag files into it
[12:39] <cafuego> Dani: You can simply install 'ubuntu-desktop' on an edubuntu machine to grab all of Ubuntu.
[12:39] <Dani> is ubuntu.com down right now i can't access it
[12:39] <swedekid> salty: i think its installed, all the stuff in the applications i can open up
[12:39] <Madpilot> Dani, I just got thru, but it's slow
[12:39] <combatmode> It would say i don't have permission
[12:39] <Dani> k thx
[12:39] <EmxBA> ompaul: people should know that sites are down
[12:39] <EmxBA> ATM
[12:40] <jpsamara> Wow! ubuntu is down!! Release is comming
[12:40] <salty> swedekid, ok...then all of your files will be in a directory called '.wine'
[12:40] <Madpilot> EmxBA, it's not. ubuntu.com is slow, but there, and it still responds to pings.
[12:40] <Zorlin> No, I don't think its down.
[12:40] <Zorlin> Its just under massively heavily load.
[12:40] <ompaul> EmxBA, if I put it in and the topic and it lasts 20 seconds I will be devoured
[12:40] <Madpilot> 6 packets transmitted, 6 received, 0% packet loss, time 5004ms
[12:40] <Zorlin> holy cow
[12:40] <Zorlin> 5 seconds ping?!
[12:40] <jchs> mc44: Giving up for now.  Thanks again for the ideas.
[12:41] <Dani> when is the next release due
[12:41] <swedekid> salty: ok, do i need to check that or something?
[12:41] <Zorlin> today
[12:41] <mc44> jchs: it really should be working
[12:41] <ompaul> EmxBA, I can get some packets back from it
[12:41] <mc44> jchs: sorry :)
[12:41] <leonov> Dani, tomorrow!
[12:41] <peepsalot> tomorrow i think
[12:41] <Zorlin> either in 1 and a half hours, or 7 and a half
[12:41] <ompaul> EmxBA, html packates at that
[12:41] <EmxBA> I can ping it too, but the site is really slow.
[12:41] <Zorlin> not entirely sure
[12:41] <Dani> oh man
[12:41] <salty> swedekid, no...that's just where they'll be if you need to look for them later
[12:41] <beattech> Can anyone help me get my ac'97 onboard souncard to work?
[12:41] <frederific> I've jsut got the homepage up after 3mins :)
[12:42] <ompaul> thoreauputic, Madpilot so mabe +m the channel and have a script tell things :)
[12:42] <sahafeez> so i have had it with SLES 10 and are thinking about getting ubuntu. seems there is an issues with the website?
[12:42] <NZheretic> If got a slight problem with the network-manager-applet not showing the ppp0 connection. Dial up works fine but the applet still shows "no network connection"
[12:42] <swedekid> salty: well, what do i need to do to install WoW?
[12:42] <mc44> ompaul: thats what I said! :)
[12:42] <Zorlin> anyone need help with anything?
[12:42] <Zorlin> Swedekid: If you wanted to install WoW
[12:42] <Madpilot> Zorlin, that slow ping might also be my landlord's junk router - I get similar times to google.com right now :| but ubuntu.com is slow to load.
[12:42] <Zorlin> You'd need drivers for your graphics card
[12:42] <cafuego> NZheretic: Luckily there are mirror sites everywhere.
[12:42] <Zorlin> as well as wine, and a copy of WoW
[12:42] <NZheretic> s/If/I've/
[12:42] <thoreauputic> ompaul: repeating at 5 second intervals " Feisty will be released when it is ready" ? *grin*
[12:43] <salty> swedekid, try right clicking on the file and choose wine to open it with
[12:43] <Zorlin> Madpilot, I'm getting terrible times loading too
[12:43] <Zorlin> But 5k ms ping time is absolutely appalling
[12:43] <leonov> ubuntu.com loaded in about 20sec from here in New Zealand.  Slow, but not fatally...
[12:43] <swedekid> Zorlin: so it doesnt automatically install the drivers?
[12:43] <sahafeez> i need to get to ubuntu.com to get a list of mirrors
[12:43] <[sTeReo] > was feisty fawn released yet?
[12:43] <cafuego> Quick! Everyone hit ubuntu.com to see if it's slow!
[12:43] <NZheretic> cafuego : "Mirror sites?"
[12:43] <beattech> Brand new linux user needs help with setting up sound card.
[12:43] <Madpilot> cafuego, heh
[12:43] <cafuego> NZheretic: iso mirrors
[12:43] <peepsalot> i get 136ms ping
[12:43] <twobrandys> Yo! peeps!
[12:43] <Zorlin> Swedekid: It installs some open source drivers
[12:43] <thoreauputic> cafuego: :))
[12:43] <Madpilot> ubotu, sound | beattech
[12:43] <ubotu> beattech: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[12:43] <twobrandys> fellow Ubunteros!
[12:43] <sahafeez> 5k is bad - i get 1200 on  sat link
[12:43] <Zorlin> However they arent the official ones.
[12:43] <EmxBA> no, [sTeReo]
[12:43] <NZheretic> cafuego : I did not ask that.
[12:43] <swedekid> Zorlin: so what do i need to do?
[12:44] <twobrandys> its nearly midnite
[12:44] <Zorlin> !graphics
[12:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about graphics - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:44] <[sTeReo] > ok, EmxBA
[12:44] <Zorlin> oh darn. hang on
[12:44] <twobrandys> is Feisty ready from midnite on?
[12:44] <EmxBA> 8.96 ms here :)
[12:44] <sahafeez> ubotu mirrors
[12:44] <ricardator> jrib, i've installed konqueror... and i could check just once gmail
[12:44] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[12:44] <beattech> ok.. i cant read anything in here.. anyone help me in private chat?
[12:44] <sahafeez> cool.
[12:44] <thoreauputic> twobrandys: no
[12:44] <ompaul> twobrandys, whose midnight?
[12:44] <jrib> ricardator: after that it failed just like firefox?
[12:44] <NZheretic> I stated "I've got a slight problem with the network-manager-applet not showing the ppp0 connection. Dial up works fine but the applet still shows "no network connection""
[12:44] <cafuego> NZheretic: Wepll, the rest of the site is of no partoicular use (especially at the moment)
[12:44] <Zorlin>  To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:44] <twobrandys> ompaul: gmt's midnite
[12:44] <[sTeReo] > it's 1 hour 15 minutes to utc midnight
[12:44] <ompaul> twobrandys, that I doubt
[12:44] <cafuego> NZheretic: Oh, you weren't the one saying you tried SLES and wantd ubuntu now.?
[12:44] <savetheWorld> wow - its later than I thought...... :-)
[12:45] <twobrandys> man i can't wait anymore
[12:45] <ompaul> twobrandys, 10 or 11 am uk time I would imagine
[12:45] <zYe_> how can i configure my imwheelrc to just recognize my 2 side mouse buttons as thumb1 and thumb 2 instead of Alt_L|Left, Alt_L|Right
[12:45] <rambo3> comon people where can i download feisty??? one !!
 : NO
[12:45] <cafuego> NZheretic: No, indeed you weren't.
[12:45] <twobrandys> ompaul: ok, I'll have to try and wait somehow
[12:45] <ompaul> twobrandys, going by some previous things
[12:45] <savetheWorld> no common people here. all elite geeks!
[12:45] <Littlebob> is there anyway to initiate an ubuntu installation with a floppy disk? i dont have a cd writer and the comp does not support usb booting.
[12:45] <jrib> zYe_: what do you mean by "thumb1" and "thumb2"?
[12:45] <Zorlin> swedekid:  To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:45] <ricardator> jrib, yup 'connection lost' or 'connection broken'
[12:45] <beattech> Anyone willing to help me with my sound card in private chat or something... Cause i cant figure this out
[12:45] <sahafeez> on the site i saw the other day a server version and a desktop version. looking at a mirror i see one disk. are there 2 distros?
[12:45] <jrib> ricardator: hmm it's really strange that it worked once though.  What if you clear the cache and try again?
[12:46] <thekidrio> littlebob, look up netboot
[12:46] <savetheWorld> Littlebob: its should be doable.  sww www.tldp.org for any guides on creating a bootable floppy
[12:46] <Zorlin> Ubuntu automatically installs opensource graphics drivers, but not the official ones which have graphics [hardware]  acceleration.
[12:46] <PriceChild> thoreauputic, is feisty released yet?
[12:46] <savetheWorld> heh or netboot
[12:46] <ricardator> jrib, ive tried that
 : what's the hardware?
[12:46] <thoreauputic> PriceChild: *yawn*
[12:46] <thoreauputic> ;p
[12:46] <Zorlin> You need the right ones for WoW, like FGLRX or the nvidia drivers
[12:46] <Slick> hey, whats the channel for openoffice.org?
[12:46] <Littlebob> hmm
[12:46] <Zorlin> probably #ooo
[12:46] <Zorlin> or #oo.o
[12:46] <frederific> Slick: #openoffice?
[12:46] <beattech> ac'97 onboard with my asus k8v or something like thgat
[12:46] <jrib> ricardator: I don't know then
[12:46] <disasm> Littlebob: can you get a hold of any linux live cd? (need wget and network)
[12:46] <zYe_> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16323/
[12:46] <frederific> something like that anyway :)
[12:46] <Littlebob> would an ms-dos boot floppy be usable
[12:46] <ricardator> jrib, even, cause other reasons i've had to reinstall all system and i get the same problem
[12:47] <kneeki> hmm, how can I go about making the font size of my Panels a bit bigger?
[12:47] <Paul_UK> can anyone try ubuntu.com?
[12:47] <jrib> !openoffice > Slick    (Slick, see the private message from ubotu)
[12:47] <Zorlin> ahh
[12:47] <sahafeez> uboto server
[12:47] <jrib> ricardator: how do you connect to the internet?
[12:47] <Zorlin> the channel for openoffice
[12:47] <Zorlin> is #openoffice.org
[12:47] <ricardator> jrib, adsl
[12:47] <Slick> cheers
[12:47] <zYe_> jrib, it says on that paste that thumb1,2 is recognized as the side buttons
[12:47] <thoreauputic> Paul_UK: yes, if all 11300 of us try it at the same time it will get *much* faster!
[12:47] <swedekid> Zorlin: the page isnt loading
[12:47] <jrib> zYe_: but that is just syntax for imwheelrc as I understand it
[12:48] <jrib> ricardator: you have a router?
[12:48] <Paul_UK> thoreauputic: no need to be like that, i just came on and asked a question
[12:48] <disasm> Paul_UK: you aren't the same Paul from the UK I hosted with are you?
[12:48] <ricardator> jrib, yes
[12:48] <thoreauputic> Paul_UK: I was kidding
[12:48] <EmxBA> the fact is that feisty is much more stable than edgy?
[12:48] <thekidrio> Paul_UK, heh I hit it a few mins ago
[12:48] <DVS01> hehe
[12:48] <ricardator> jrib, a chinese one :p
[12:48] <DVS01> i named my cat cat;su
[12:48] <Paul_UK> disasm: yeah and im sleeping with your misses
[12:48] <jrib> ricardator: well just to troubleshoot, I would see if it happens when you skip the router and connect directly
[12:48] <Zorlin> Swedekid: It may take a while. Ubuntu's servers are getting raped by all the requests.
[12:48] <twobrandys> I have IBM lenovo R60e - would Ubuntu or Kubuntu run and look better on there?
[12:48] <disasm> Paul_UK: that's fine, I'm single and my ex is a lesbian ;-)
[12:48] <Zorlin> They are under massive load, so they may be a bit unresponsive
[12:48] <kneeki> !panels > kneeki
[12:49] <swedekid> Zorlin: it says its done, but the page is blank
[12:49] <Zorlin> hmmm.
[12:49] <disasm>  /backontopic
[12:49] <zYe_> jrib, as in syntax are you not saying the rules in which imwheel abides by?
[12:49] <Zorlin> let me have a look
[12:49] <Madpilot> twobrandys, Ubuntu will always look better - but then, I might just be a Gnome fancreature.
[12:49] <Paul_UK> disasm: hehe she brought her friend along, so it was all good!
[12:49] <Zorlin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:49] <spork> I'm trying to get compiz running in eft via the ubuntu faq/guide.  I'm on the step where you update the gpg key for the apt repository, but the key server keeps timing out.
[12:49] <Zorlin> it loads for me
[12:49] <IGxMyzt> Zorlin: I'm on ubuntu.
[12:49] <disasm> twobrandys: none of the above, you need fluxbox to make it look better
[12:49] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> Upon fixing this issue you will NOT automatically be allowed to rejoin #ubuntu if you have been temporarly forwarded to #ubuntu-ops. You will need to alert an op to the situation and he will assist you in rejoining #ubuntu.
[12:49] <Zorlin> Igx, it worked?
[12:49] <ricardator> jrib, i don't think router is the problem, 'cause when i had windows i didn't have this problem
[12:49] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> ^=- not true (apparently)
[12:49] <EmxBA> spork: check it few hours later
[12:49] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> :x
[12:50] <IGxMyzt> Zorlin: Yes, is the other chat still open?
[12:50] <Zorlin> igzor it
[12:50] <LjL> {uX}l`VampyrCeil: that's because you changed your nickname, i'd suppose
[12:50] <disasm> twobrandys: out of curiosity, what graphics card in that laptop?
[12:50] <twobrandys> disasm: LOL, yoiu cant be serious ^^
[12:50] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> oh
[12:50] <Madpilot> spork, if it's Ubuntu's keyserver, it might be down/slow under the general hammering the release is giving all of Ubuntu's servers
[12:50] <Zorlin> igzor-temp
[12:50] <andy_> where are the Places from gnome stored? I want to browse such a place that I have connected to from a normal file dialog.
[12:50] <PriceChild> {uX}l`VampyrCeil, join #pricechild for me please
[12:50] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> i had my sleeping nick when i was banned
[12:50] <sahafeez> is there 2 different distros - one desktop and one server? i am looking for a mirror that has the server dvd iso
[12:50] <twobrandys> Madpilot: hello gnomefancreature ^^ and performance/functional wise they are the same?
[12:51] <jrib> zYe_: yes, for you to tell imwheel, "do this when I press my side button" you use the "thumb1" string.  So the rules you had before were saying, "when I press my side button, I want imwheel to press alt-left"
[12:51] <LjL> !eserver > sahafeez    (sahafeez, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:51] <vio> hi :)
[12:51] <sahafeez> ok, thanks...
[12:51] <EmxBA> wow I can't track this channel anymore.
[12:51] <twobrandys> disasm: intel 95...something
[12:51] <sahafeez> LjL: Sorry, I don't know anything about eserver
[12:51] <Madpilot> twobrandys, pretty much. Assuming you've got a modern(ish) machine with a decent amount of RAM, either will run fine. Kubuntu/KDE might be a bit heavier on RAM usage, that's all.
[12:51] <Hoag> Hey. Strange question, but... I copied two albums from the same band onto one CD, and for some reason it named the CD "Folk Megamix 2003" and gave the songs names from what appears to be a European language. What gives? o.O
[12:51] <LjL> !server > sahafeez    (sahafeez, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:51] <disasm> twobrandys: ah k, so by better looking you don't mean compiz or whatever it's called
[12:52] <Joebu23> i need an nvidia twinview master
[12:52] <twobrandys> disasm: no, i didn't, although i wonder whether beryl would run on it or not
[12:52] <carlosfs> Does anyone can help me enable wpa on ubuntu?
[12:52] <sahafeez> thanks. cept
[12:52] <rambo3> ubotu is the master
[12:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is the master - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:52] <BenjaminJohnsto1> joebu32: I may be able to help
[12:52] <spork> Madpilot: no it's: hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net   is there a different keyserver I can use for the compiz stuff?
[12:52] <disasm> twobrandys: i doubt it, I don't think intel cards have 3d accelerated drivers yet
[12:53] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> \o/
[12:53] <thoreauputic> disasm: some do actually
[12:53] <Madpilot> spork, not sure, haven't yet messed with compiz/beryl myself.
[12:53] <rambo3> !twinview | Joebu23
[12:53] <ubotu> Joebu23: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[12:53] <Joebu23> Benjamin, i have twinview enabled, and both work, but I want to maximize windows across both monitors
[12:53] <combatmode> Which torrent program in ubutu actually let u choose what torrent files to download?>
[12:53] <Felix765> hi, I am struggling with ltsp (in feisty) can anyone help?
[12:53] <LjL> combatmode: ktorrent does
[12:53] <zYe_> jrib, well when i am in a game say my grenade key is 'g' how would i go about making my "null" section use my side key on the mouse for a grenade?
[12:53] <disasm> thoreauputic: which ones? I've hard about development, didn't realize they were actually making progress
[12:53] <thoreauputic> combatmode: azureus is one
[12:53] <combatmode> thx
[12:53] <EmxBA> you can try using utorrent with wine, Felix765
[12:53] <Hoag> Can anyone help me?
[12:53] <LjL> !helpme
[12:53] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:54] <EmxBA> what's your problem, Hoag ?
[12:54] <Hoag> I copied two albums from the same band onto one CD, and for some reason it named the CD "Folk Megamix 2003" and gave the songs names from what appears to be a European language. What gives? o.O
[12:54] <thoreauputic> disasm: i don't know, but I've read that some intel chips are doing 3d
[12:54] <disasm> Felix765: doing a net boot?
[12:54] <salty> !anyone
[12:54] <carlosfs> Does anyone can help me enable wpa on ubuntu?
[12:54] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:54] <jrib> zYe_: the null in your rule means there is no modifier.  Basically, it's like this:  modifier, mouse button, action.  So I think you would want something like  null, thumb1, g
[12:54] <thoreauputic> disasm: people are using beryl/compiz with them
[12:54] <BenjaminJohnsto1> I have found so far only the ability to stretch across both.
[12:54] <Hoag> It's nothing too deadly, but it's a bit confusing
[12:54] <disasm> carlosfs: apt-get install wpasupplicant is the first step
[12:54] <jrib> zYe_: by modifier, I mean keys like ctrl and alt
[12:54] <thoreauputic> !wifi | carlosfs
[12:54] <ubotu> carlosfs: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:54] <vio> ok i need help with a pcmcia sound card, can does anyone know how to install it? (using feisty)? i can wait, just need to know if some1 can help..
[12:55] <disasm> thoreauputic: good to know before I buy another laptop (probly a year down the road still)
[12:55] <Joebu23> Benjamin: I cannot get windows to stretch across both.  They all want to maximize into their respective window only
[12:55] <jpsamara> carlosfs: install network-manager
[12:55] <LjL> !feisty > vio    (vio, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:55] <carlosfs> disasm: i've already, but i'm facing some problems.
[12:55] <thoreauputic> disasm: I don't think they compare with nVidia etc though
[12:55] <BenjaminJohnsto1> unmaximize the window, then stretch
[12:55] <jpsamara> carlosfs: it will take care of WPA... just add it to gnome panel after
[12:55] <zYe_> jrib, this is what my null section says currently, and it doesnt even state thumb1 yet it works, i dont understand... "None, Down, Alt_L|Right"
[12:55] <ricardator> jrib, thnxs for your time anyway
[12:56] <BenjaminJohnsto1> There has to be a better way though, I'll look into i.
[12:56] <BenjaminJohnsto1> it
[12:56] <Hoag> Why would Serpentine seemingly grab a random tracklist from god knows where and use it for a CD I made?
[12:56] <Felix765> I am trying to connect to ltsp on edubuntu server using Terminal Server Client on edubuntu desktop, but I just get 'connection refused'.
[12:56] <BenjaminJohnsto1> Hoag... Yes
[12:56] <jrib> zYe_: well down is supposed to be mouse wheel down
[12:56] <Joebu23> Benjamin: Or, better yet, a way to have mplayer play one video on one screen and another video on another screen.  Right now, mplayer will only play out to the SVIDEO screen
[12:56] <disasm> carlosfs: if you're using gnome you probably want to listen to anyone in here other than me ;-) I tend to do networking the "hard" way
[12:56] <Jordan_U> vio, First off I would plug it in, it may "just work"
[12:57] <carlosfs> jpsamara: the icon on panel shows "no network connections"
[12:57] <BenjaminJohnsto1> Joe: Use vlc
[12:57] <thoreauputic> Hoag: probably some of the metadata matches
[12:57] <Joebu23> Benjamin: will try vlc
[12:57] <Madpilot> Felix765, try #edubuntu for questions about it
[12:57] <zYe_> jrib, well it works for my side button and doesnt effect my mouse wheel at all...
[12:57] <Paul_UK> oh well, heres hoping ubuntu 7.04 is released when i wake up!!!!
[12:57] <carlosfs> disasm: hehe, ok, tnks
[12:57] <jrib> zYe_: your mouse probably generates a different button# than it expects then
[12:57] <vio> Jordan_U: it's plugged in (and worked gerat with XP) but xp sxs..
[12:58] <Felix765> Madpilot: I am also on #edubuntu but there are 30 times as many people here
[12:58] <zYe_> jrib, but my side buttons are 'sticking' in game becasuse of the alt+right combination
[12:58] <vio> i can try to unplug + replug
[12:58] <zYe_> jrib, so right now my mouse 4 is really supposed to be my mouse 6?
[12:58] <ceil420> Felix765, there's over twice as many people here as there are in ##linux itself :p
[12:58] <jrib> zYe_: run xev, and see what you get
[12:58] <BenjaminJohnsto1> Joe: I can get one fullscreen and the other only window maximized
[12:59] <BenjaminJohnsto1> In vlc
[12:59] <zYe_> jrib, xev?
[12:59] <vio> nothing happened
[12:59] <Jordan_U> vio, look at alsamixer to see if you can see the channel at least
[12:59] <kendwork> (just asked in #kubuntu, but...)  Does anyone know if Canonical might have Ubuntu 6.10 discs left over that they can ship?
[12:59] <Hoag> thorauputic: Ah, so I'm just unlucky? Well, hopefully next time it'll grab a more appropriate track list. Cheers. :P
[12:59] <jrib> zYe_: yep, just type 'xev' in a terminal
[12:59] <kendwork> Ship-It only lists 7.04
[12:59] <MLimburg> you know, i wish synaptic had the ability to directly link to the homepage of a package .. sometimes, you just need more information
[12:59] <ceil420> MLimburg, i agree :x
[12:59] <zYe_> jrib, you want me to pastebin all this stuff?
[12:59] <kendwork> (we'd need discs in Davis, Calif before May 11th)
[01:00] <mcphail> kendwork: were 6.10 disks shipped at all?
[01:00] <carlosfs> I've done all steps of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo but the icon on panel shows that no network interface was found.
[01:00] <ceil420> some of the descriptions are just like "this is a <one-word description>"
[01:00] <Felix765> ceil420: he he ... I am sure that somebody know something about ltsp (pleading look)
[01:00] <jrib> zYe_: no, that will let you know what button# each button on your mouse generates
[01:00] <Jordan_U> kendwork, 6.10 was never shipped for free
[01:00] <kendwork> mcphail - oh, i didn't know that
[01:00] <ceil420> Felix765, i don't even know what it stands for ^^;
[01:00] <ceil420> 6.04 was shipped free
[01:00] <pherring> phew
[01:00] <BenjaminJohnsto1> Kendwork: When I ordered edgy discs, I got them in like 2 weeks, even though it says much longer
[01:00] <pherring> I am here
[01:01] <Jordan_U> kendwork, You can buy them and get them expedited
[01:01] <kendwork> well, with a new vers. coming out TOMORROW, i asusme there WILL be a wait
[01:01] <ceil420> yeah same here, BenjaminJohnsto1
[01:01] <kendwork> yeah, we can burn them, too
[01:01] <ceil420> i was pleasantly surprised
[01:01] <vio> Jordan_U: how can i check the alsamixer?
[01:01] <kendwork> which would be cheaper, but not look as nice
[01:01] <kde185> is anyone else having trouble viewing ubuntu.com ?
[01:01] <kendwork> this is for a LUG (NPO) event
[01:01] <RichiH> kendwork: it is 19th in europe ;)
[01:01] <kendwork> kde185 - yes
[01:01] <kendwork> timed out
[01:01] <kendwork> RichiH - D'OH!
[01:01] <Jordan_U> vio, run "alsamixer" in the terminal
[01:01] <vio> roger
[01:01] <Auron0> kde185 Yes
[01:01] <spork> I"m out of the loop, is Fiesty about to be release or something?
[01:01] <Auron0> It is very slow
[01:01] <kendwork> anyway, thanks.  will need to burn :)
[01:01] <ceil420> RichiH, assume that Ubuntu is based in Hawaii and don't worry about it til it's the 19th there :p
[01:02] <zYe_> jrib, ok i have all my button numbers, but my side buttons have no numbers
[01:02] <ceil420> spork, yes, tomorrow
[01:02] <Jordan_U> vio, Use arrow keys to change volume / channel and the "m" key to mute / unmute
[01:02] <RichiH> ceil420: i don't. i use debian
[01:02] <jrib> zYe_: can you join me in #ubuntu-classroom?
[01:02] <kde185> ah ok it's not just me
[01:02] <disasm> ubuntu-classroom? we're doing lectures now :-P
[01:02] <ceil420> lol
[01:02] <vio> Jordan_U: the problem is that i have an internal sound card aswell (realtek crap) and an addisional SB2 notebook pcmcia (i can only see the realtek in alsamixer)
[01:03] <Auron0> I pose another question: I have a wireless network and I intalled the Wifi Radar and setup my my wireless network, but I am going to assume that I need drivers for my wifi card. I have a Linksys WMP54G.
[01:03] <RichiH> ceil420: i am just here to monitor the channel, is all
[01:03] <ceil420> RichiH, oh, I see.
[01:03] <carlosfs> When i installed the network-manager-gnome, is installed another icon on panel. The first icon connects normally using WEP, and shows all network interfaces...
[01:04] <Jordan_U> vio, I have never used a pcmcia card so I am basically trying to figure this out along with you, just so you know :) Have you tried booting with it in?
[01:04] <disasm> oh wow, there really is a class schedule, that's pretty slick
[01:04] <Jordan_U> *pcmcia sound card
[01:04] <vio> yeah.. i have..
[01:04] <vio> :S
[01:04] <pyr0000> i need help!!!!! i just did a fresh install of edgy on my laptop for the 4th time.. when i run the 160 or so updates and it restarts i cant see my wireless network card anymore, which is strange becouse right now (on fresh install no updates) it works! so what is happening that kills my wifi ?
[01:04] <BenjaminJohnsto1> Anyone: I've been on feisty for a while now at home, but I want to upgrade to it at work too (from edgy) But the developers in my office will be pissed if i use that much bandwidth(we share a single T1). Can I find an ISO anywhere yet? Or should I stop being impatient and just wait...
[01:05] <Auron0> pyr0000: what kind of wifi card do you have
[01:05] <Auron0> I am having issues getting ubuntu to see mine
[01:05] <grayman> BenjaminJohnsto1, stable will be in few hours for download
[01:05] <BenjaminJohnsto1> Great to hear.
[01:05] <vio> Jordan_U: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-meta/+bug/87909 its a known bug?
[01:06] <Lord_Vader> BenjaminJohnsto1, you wouldn't want to install a beta OS at your work, you might get fired. as far as waiting goes, feisty is released today
[01:06] <BenjaminJohnsto1> I would not be fired, haha
[01:06] <BenjaminJohnsto1> trust me
[01:06] <grayman> well, you can download beta iso now
[01:06] <pyr0000> Auron0 : i have a Atheros AR5212  which is working now but when i do the updates it stops and is gone. it is instade of the laptop non pcmcia
[01:06] <Lord_Vader> lol k
[01:06] <smcmurray> why does the 7.04 beta want the install cd to do updates?
[01:06] <Auron0> Oh, i have a linksys card...so that doesn't help me
[01:06] <dj-fu> smcmurray: that's how you have it configued
[01:06] <grayman> yeah
[01:07] <Auron0> I pose another question: I have a wireless network and I intalled the Wifi Radar and setup my my wireless network, but I am going to assume that I need drivers for my wifi card. I have a Linksys WMP54G.
[01:07] <BenjaminJohnsto1> Gray: I thought so, I just couldn't find it.
[01:07] <pyr0000> i think they are the same chip set
[01:07] <grayman> remove it from sources.list
[01:07] <carlosfs> jpsamara: don't you know why network-manager-gnome do not shows any network interfaces?
[01:07] <musya> is there a driver i can install to make my computer support the correct resolution i need?
[01:07] <grayman> BenjaminJohnsto1, yeah. they hide it well ;)
[01:07] <grayman> well not really, just not link to it from the front page
[01:07] <grayman> *don't
[01:08] <thekidrio> musya, umm update to the most recent display driver and then edit the xorg.conf for your res if its not set correctly
[01:08] <BenjaminJohnsto1> Could you, oh I don't know, lend me a hand in finding such gold?
[01:08] <thekidrio> i have to edit my xorg.conf on install to get my widescreen working
[01:08] <Jordan_U> vio, Does asoundconf-gtk work for you?
[01:08] <grayman> BenjaminJohnsto1, let me see, but i suggest to get the stable one in few hours
[01:08] <musya> thekidrio: how do i update my driver? apt-get update? and where is xorg.conf located do you konw?
[01:09] <vio> Jordan_U: haven't tested it out yet, i should do this right "sudo apt-get install asoundconf-gtk" right?
[01:09] <TheCreationist> I'm trying to upgrade from Kubuntu Edgy to Feisty using update-manager but after the "checking package manager" phase, I get this error: "Could not calculate the upgrade"  Any ideas?
[01:09] <Auron0> pyr0000: is your wifi chipset ralink?
[01:09] <Jordan_U> vio, correct
[01:09] <Lord_Vader> feisty is now released folks! congrats
[01:09] <mc44> Lord_Vader: according to what?
[01:09] <Lord_Vader> according to www.ubuntu.com
[01:09] <DrNic1> \o/
[01:10] <Lord_Vader> mc44 ^
[01:10] <BenjaminJohnsto1> musya,   sudo nano (or gedit) /etc/x11/xorg.conf   and add your resolutions just like the others down near the bottom. make sure you have a backup of that file before doing anything to it though, ive crashed x like a million times.
[01:10] <TheCreationist> ubuntu.com is down for me.
[01:10] <mc44> Lord_Vader: doesnt say that here
[01:10] <DrNic1> that's if you can get onto www.ubuntu.com - its dead from this end :/
[01:10] <vio> Jordan_U: *installing* i'll come with feedback
[01:10] <Lord_Vader> k
[01:10] <hype_> www.ubuntu.com is down here :p
[01:10] <Lord_Vader> mc44, refresh the page, empty cache and cookies
[01:10] <pyr0000> no ar5212
[01:10] <ceil420> yeah i can't get to ubuntu.com either
[01:10] <TheCreationist> Lord_Vader: So what are you talking about?
[01:10] <combatmode> Ktorrent doesn't run at all
[01:10] <musya> BenjaminJohnsto1: ok,thanks
[01:10] <BenjaminJohnsto1> grayman: I'll just wait
[01:10] <combatmode> only bittorrent work.
[01:10] <Auron0> pyr0000: is that your chipset or your brand?
[01:10] <Lord_Vader> TheCreationist, feisty is released now
[01:10] <carlosfs> Does anyone can help me with WPA on Ubuntu?
[01:10] <ceil420> oh there it goes
[01:10] <combatmode> what else ubunutu has
[01:10] <thekidrio> musya, first find what video card you have installed, ATI or NVIDIA or other, then do what BenjaminJohnsto1 said
[01:10] <ceil420> it's just very slow
[01:10] <vio> Jordan_U: i'll try to logout + in and see if there is any difference..
[01:11] <Jordan_U> musya, Do you have the correct drivers for your GFX card ( I would check this before messing with xorg.conf )
[01:11] <vio> brb
[01:11] <ceil420> prolly traffic on the site for some reason
[01:11] <ceil420> :p
[01:11] <hype_> ^^
[01:11] <DrNic1> its normal.  people should expect servers to die when they get about 500 new connections a minute for people all wanting fiesty.
[01:11] <smcmurray> dj-fu: how do I change the setting?
[01:11] <ceil420> i wanna see the distrowatch "hits per day" for ubuntu after today :p
[01:11] <DrNic1> haha yeah
[01:11] <TheCreationist> So, I've been trying to update to feisty, but the "official" instructions are useless and incomplete... and using update-manager gives me a vague error.... any ideas?
[01:11] <BenjaminJohnsto1> I agree with jordan_U
[01:12] <dj-fu> smcmurray: /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:12] <dj-fu> .lst rather
[01:12] <dj-fu> comment out the cdrom lines
[01:12] <kde185> meh if someone happens to find a link to the torrent then perhaps they should paste it so we don't kill ubuntu.com finding it
[01:12] <Jordan_U> TheCreationist, What error?
[01:12] <J-_> Should I download fiesty now, or wait?
[01:12] <TheCreationist> Jordan_U: "Unable to calculate upgrade"
[01:12] <grayman> hmm
[01:12] <combatmode> what else ubunutu has torrent programs
[01:12] <DrNic1> kde185: ubuntu.com is already dead.  my commiserations.
[01:12] <ZERO_SHIFT> is feisty out?
[01:12] <J-_> =0
[01:12] <mc44> No
[01:12] <Jordan_U> TheCreationist, Do you use any third party repositories?
[01:13] <TheCreationist> Jordan_U: Yes.
[01:13] <Skyhook> does anyone have a link for the torrent for feisty?
[01:13] <grayman> feisty is not out yet
[01:13] <musya> BenjaminJohnsto1: im not using a card just my motherboard to display
[01:13] <Skyhook> why not!
[01:13] <ceil420> yeah the site says the Beta's out
[01:13] <ceil420> not final
[01:13] <BenjaminJohnsto1> combatmode: I use Ktorrent after trying a bunch of different ones. It's a kdesk app but it works great
[01:13] <grayman> because it will be in few hours
[01:13] <ZERO_SHIFT> why cant i enter the ubuntu site?
[01:13] <musya> and i dont have the file /etc/x11/
[01:13] <Skyhook> thats lame why not now
[01:13] <vio> Jordan_U: no good..
[01:13] <[sTeReo] > ZERO_SHIFT: nobody can
[01:13] <ceil420> ZERO_SHIFT, because there's 100s of other users trying as well
[01:13] <ceil420> :x
[01:13] <grayman> ZERO_SHIFT, because people are murdering it
[01:13] <carlosfs> When i've installed network-manager-gnome and wpasupplicant the newtwork interfaces isn't show. Does anyone can help me?
[01:14] <grayman> people can't wait for the images to get there
[01:14] <Jordan_U> ZERO_SHIFT, * thousands of users
[01:14] <ZERO_SHIFT> more like thousadnds
[01:14] <ZERO_SHIFT> !!
[01:14] <kenneth_> www.ubuntu.com is down.
[01:14] <ceil420> indeed
 thats lame why not now --> omg you'll have to wait till tomorrow
[01:14] <grayman> it is not
[01:14] <hype_> -_-
[01:14] <grayman> it's just very slow
[01:14] <ceil420> kenneth_, it's not down as in server crash, it's just slow for the traffic
[01:14] <thoreauputic> kenneth_: not down, just melting :)
[01:14] <kenneth_> is this due to the 7.04 release? Overload or updating the webpage?
[01:14] <DrNic1> you know what annoy's me is when people expect things to be ready within 2 seconds of the clock striking midnight, i mean that's just totally unreasonable.  vista was 2 years late, and people moan when ubuntu is 2 minutes late.
[01:14] <Skyhook> its still lame
[01:14] <ceil420> lol DrNic1
[01:14] <mwe> someoneadd that to the topic please ;)
[01:14] <Lord_Vader> I still can't find a mirror to download the fawn
[01:14] <grayman> yeah
[01:15] <ceil420> who said it was to be released when the 19th hit in Europe? :p
[01:15] <Lord_Vader> but it's released lol
[01:15] <TheCreationist> Jordan_U: Does the update not work with 3rd party repos?
[01:15] <hype_> DrNic1 , fortunatelly he doesnt represent the majority of people (not kids)
[01:15] <hype_> :)
[01:15] <Jordan_U> Lord_Vader, Use bittorent
[01:15] <grayman> ceil420, who said that not?
[01:15] <thekidrio> DrNic1, I think people setting exact release times is silly, not that people expect the release time to be honest
[01:15] <mc44> Lacerta: no its no
[01:15] <ceil420> Lord_Vader, i see "Beta released" on the site
[01:15] <mc44> Lord_Vader: No its not
[01:15] <kde185> There's still one more hour to go until it's the 19th GMT time
[01:15] <Lord_Vader> Jordan_U, I can't even find the feisty download page, it's not there
[01:15] <DrNic1> mhmm.
[01:15] <ceil420> Beta != Final
[01:15] <Stoffer> in the synaptic package manager, what does the little ubuntu logo next to a package mean?
[01:15] <mc44> Lord_Vader: because its not released
[01:15] <Lord_Vader> mc44, yes it is
[01:15] <thekidrio> its very weird that people still expect release times to be accurate though
[01:15] <Jordan_U> TheCreationist, Third party repos ( poorly maintained ones ) can break upgrades
[01:15] <Lord_Vader> I'll show u
[01:15] <mc44> Lord_Vader: it really isnt. Please stop saying it is
[01:15] <grayman> well
[01:15] <grayman> they're accurate
[01:15] <hype_> Lord_Vader , ok you won
[01:16] <thoreauputic> Stoffer: supported packages ( main and restricted I guess)
[01:16] <grayman> +/- few hours
[01:16] <kenneth_> Q nr1: Are the final iso files ready? Q nr2: If the iso files are ready, does there exist any torrent files?
[01:16] <vio> Jordan_U:  when i do a "tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat" i get 0. Realtek ALC202 rev 0   and 1.1: Silicon Laboratory Si3036,8 rev
[01:16] <TheCreationist> Jordan_U: So if I disable them, then run the upgrade, it should work fine?
[01:16] <ZERO_SHIFT> I cant get to ubuntu site, man people must really be going crazy!!!
[01:16] <combatmode> love linux pwn winos
[01:16] <Lord_Vader> http://img411.imageshack.us/my.php?image=feistyslpptob5.png
[01:16] <Lord_Vader> mc44,
[01:16] <Lord_Vader> I win
[01:16] <mc44> Lord_Vader: no you dont
[01:16] <ceil420> Lord_Vader, you lose
[01:16] <Jordan_U> TheCreationist, No, you will need to remove the packages you installed from those repos first
[01:16] <ceil420> that's BETA released
[01:16] <ceil420> not FINAL
[01:16] <Lord_Vader> check the link
[01:16] <Lord_Vader> lol
[01:16] <combatmode> any way i love linux X win
[01:16] <kde185> that says beta
[01:16] <Lord_Vader> no it isn't
[01:17] <mc44> Lord_Vader: You are wrong. Please stop
[01:17] <ceil420> dude
[01:17] <TheCreationist> ...also would like to note how stupid it is for an UPGRADE to force me to reinstall on the "default" applications that I have uninstalled by choice....
[01:17] <ceil420> are you blind?
[01:17] <Stoffer> thoreauputic: so what would be the advantage of using the supported xchat vs the un-supported one?
[01:17] <musya> BenjaminJohnsto1: hello?
[01:17] <TheCreationist> Jordan_U: Are you serious??  wow...
[01:17] <ceil420> Stoffer, you get support ;)
[01:17] <ceil420> :p
[01:17] <Stoffer> ic
[01:17] <Lord_Vader> mc44, no cause I'm right, look at the link I posted
[01:17] <kde185> haha saying that it's released is just cruel in here
[01:17] <Stoffer> as in from this channel?
[01:17] <ceil420> Lord_Vader, you look at the link again
[01:17] <DrNic1> TheCreationist: try 'upgrading' windows and watch things break.
[01:17] <mc44> Lord_Vader: I did. Its not released.
[01:17] <Stoffer> and such?
[01:17] <ceil420> Lord_Vader,  you see that red bit in the corner?
[01:17] <ZERO_SHIFT> I will probably wait till tomorrow morning to get ubuntu on my university network with +2000KB/Sec download rate :-) !!!
[01:17] <vio> Jordan_U: (Preferences>Sound) does not properly switch sound cards, is there another way to do this?
[01:17] <ceil420> Lord_Vader, where it says BETA
[01:17] <Pelo> mc44  Lord_Vader  take it to ubuntu-offtopic
[01:18] <mwe> TheCreationist: well an upgrade is per definition new versions of your programs
[01:18] <Lord_Vader> ceil420, in my shot?
[01:18] <grayman> Lord_Vader, the final images are not compiled yet
[01:18] <Lord_Vader> u kidding right
[01:18] <ceil420> Lord_Vader, yes
[01:18] <ceil420> Lord_Vader, i'm looking at your shot now
[01:18] <ceil420> Lord_Vader, it says Beta
[01:18] <Lord_Vader> lol
[01:18] <TheCreationist> mwe: Right.  MY programs... I don't need new versions of the programs I don't have installed.
[01:18] <thoreauputic> Stoffer: the unsupported one is better ;)
[01:18] <mwe> TheCreationist: no
[01:18] <thoreauputic> Stoffer: xchat-gnome is crippled
[01:18] <deserteagle> hello all, how do i update the nvidia drivers from command line
[01:18] <Lord_Vader> ah well
[01:18] <TheCreationist> DrNic1: This is supposed to be superior to Windows ;) Not inferior.
[01:18] <mwe> TheCreationist: what does it want to install?
[01:18] <Stoffer> thoreauputic: I figured as much...
[01:18] <ceil420> Lord_Vader, do i need to edit your image in GIMP and paint bright orange arrows pointing to the word "Beta"?
[01:18] <thoreauputic> !nvidia
[01:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:18] <Jordan_U> TheCreationist, Ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package it is required to pull in the correct upgrades to all your packages in a dist-upgrade
[01:19] <Lord_Vader> ceil420, eh, no?
[01:19] <Stoffer> thoreauputic: btw, support from who, exactly?
[01:19] <Lord_Vader> I'm tired.. gawd can't see straight
[01:19] <thoreauputic> Stoffer: Canonical
[01:19] <ZERO_SHIFT> amzing
[01:19] <TheCreationist> Jordan_U: And yet now I need to figure out which programs I installed from other repos and uninstall them?  That's crazy.
[01:19] <mwe> TheCreationist: when I upgraded to feisty a few month ago I didn't get much I didn't already have
[01:19] <ceil420> Lord_Vader, that's what you get for waiting up for Feisty past your bed time :p
[01:19] <Stoffer> thoreauputic: which is.... (I just installed ubuntu 10min ago)
[01:19] <Lord_Vader> ceil420, lol true
[01:19] <TheCreationist> mwe: I uninstalled a LOT of default programs that I've never needed...
[01:19] <thoreauputic> Stoffer: htey can only support a subset of the more than 17 000 packages
[01:19] <TheCreationist> they're all back again.
[01:20] <thoreauputic> Stoffer: the company behind Ubuntu
[01:20] <DrNic1> they loved you too much.
[01:20] <thoreauputic> Stoffer: Mark Shuttleworth's company
[01:20] <Jordan_U> TheCreationist, Yes, it is, I really with that people would not suggest extra repos so quickly, there is a reason they are not there by default
[01:20] <thekidrio> TheCreationist, did you save a list of what you had installed on your system?
[01:20] <Stoffer> thoreauputic: oh ic...  well I doubt I'd be asking them for help anyway
[01:20] <thekidrio> apt can create that fairly easily eh
[01:20] <Jordan_U> TheCreationist, *wish
[01:21] <thoreauputic> Stoffer: right - it's mostly for corporate customers etc ( peace of mind and all that)
[01:21] <TheCreationist> Jordan_U: Uhm, the official Ubuntu guides pointed me to websites that suggested adding 3rd party repos.  Beryl, for example...
[01:21] <thoreauputic> Stoffer: universe and multiverse are community supported
[01:21] <Stoffer> thoreauputic: ok thanks
[01:21] <pherring> guh
[01:21] <Amaranth> TheCreationist: official?
[01:21] <pherring> I'm trying to figure out how to add a server to xchat
[01:21] <Amaranth> TheCreationist: help.ubuntu.com/community isn't official, it's a wiki :)
[01:22] <Jordan_U> TheCreationist, ubuntuguides.com is not official, help.ubuntu.com is
[01:22] <TheCreationist> Amaranth: Well, links I followed from Ubuntu.com
[01:22] <kde185> TheCreationist: If you want the most recent version of beryl you need to install a seperate repository, however I'd just wait a few hours until feisty is out and use the official repos
[01:22] <Amaranth> kde185: Ubuntu has the latest beryl
[01:22] <DrNic1> pherring: don't like xchat-gnome that much.  i just use Gaim now.  although you can still get 'normal' xchat :)
[01:22] <Jordan_U> Amaranth, It is official community documentation
[01:22] <Stoffer> thoreauputic: ok, while I"m here.  Any idea why my wireless connection (which very impressively was auto detected by the latest beta) has a 50% lower connection strength than in windows?
[01:22] <Amaranth> kde185: And ubuntu will always have the latest beryl because there won't be anymore beryl releases :)
[01:23] <thoreauputic> Stoffer: umm - no, I'm not psychic, sorry ;P
[01:23] <thekidrio> beryl and compiz joined up right? when is that gonna be?
[01:23] <TheCreationist> kde185: I'm not just talking about Beryl... I'm trying to upgrade to Feisty, but apparently I need to remove any programs I added that weren't part of the official repos in order to do so.
[01:23] <TheCreationist> ...so much for freedom lol
[01:23] <vio> Jordan_U:  it worked !!! just needed a proper restart
[01:23] <Shiner_Man> I have a question about the partitioner
[01:23] <Jordan_U> TheCreationist, That is just my guess, I may be wrong
[01:23] <Amaranth> thekidrio: gusty should have some release from the combined project
[01:23] <Stoffer> thoreauputic: is Canonical psychic?  :P
[01:23] <thoreauputic> TheCreationist: you are free to break your system if you wish :)
[01:23] <Shiner_Man> I have a laptop that is dual booting edgy and Windows
[01:23] <grayman> TheCreationist, erm, no you don't
[01:23] <Amaranth> TheCreationist: It's because the people that run those 3rd party repos are generally stupid
[01:23] <grayman> TheCreationist, why would you need to do that?
[01:23] <thoreauputic> Stoffer: probably Mark Shuttleworth is ;)
[01:24] <TheCreationist> thoreauputic: I consider it "breaking" my system by being forced to uninstall my essential apps just to upgrade.
[01:24] <Amaranth> TheCreationist: So they break upgrades
[01:24] <makuseru> how can i resize a partition if i cant get on a live cd to use qtparted?
[01:24] <Shiner_Man> sda1 has windows; sda2 has the edgy ext partition and sda5 has the swap
[01:24] <thoreauputic> TheCreationist: *shrug*
[01:24] <Jordan_U> TheCreationist, Try installing ubuntu-desktop then trying the upgrade again
[01:24] <grayman> i didn't need to remove any of my 3rd party stuff to upgrade
[01:24] <Pelo> TheCreationist,  this is the first time that I have heard someone say you need to remove programs before updating,  that kind of defeats the purpose of updates, you might has well install from scratch,  I would verify that info in #ubuntu+1  if I were you
[01:24] <TheCreationist> grayman: I've been trying to use update-manager to upgrade to Feisty, but it gives an error... Jordon_U suggested I try removing any software I installed from 3rd part reps.
[01:25] <Pelo> ah
[01:25] <grayman> that's a bit wrong i believe
[01:25] <Amaranth> Pelo: No need for #ubuntu+1, I'm here telling you right now. :)
[01:25] <grayman> what error it gives?
[01:25] <Shootfast> TheCreationist: what the error?
[01:25] <TheCreationist> Jordan_U: I already installed kubuntu-desktop (which I didn't WANT to do because it included 20+ apps that I had manually removed already)
[01:25] <TheCreationist> Shootfast: "Could not calculate upgrade"
[01:25] <calliope> hey there, yesterday I installed ubuntu 6.10 from cd and it just finished running all the updates and the <IP_ADDRESS> kernel (but I havent rebooted yet) what is the best way to upgrade to Ubuntu 7 ??
[01:25] <Pelo> Amaranth,  you are telling me what ,  that it is true ? or false ?
[01:25] <Shootfast> TheCreationist: Is that what synaptic says or from the command line?
[01:26] <Amaranth> Pelo: It is true that 3rd party repos are a common reason for failed upgrades
[01:26] <Pelo> Amaranth,  just the repos, not the programs
[01:26] <TheCreationist> Pelo: That's exactly what I thought... why UPDATE if it installs/uninstalls all the stuff I didn't want/DO want?
[01:26] <makuseru> how can i resize a partition if i cant get on a live cd to use qtparted?
[01:26] <grayman> calliope, update-manager
[01:26] <Amaranth> Pelo: The packages
[01:26] <Jordan_U> TheCreationist, And you can easily remove them after the upgrade by using apt-get autoremove kubuntu-desktop
[01:26] <TheCreationist> Shootfast: Not command line...
[01:26] <TheCreationist> Shootfast: The command line doesn't mention any errors.
[01:26] <thoreauputic> TheCreationist: blame the broken 3rd party apps
[01:26] <retarded> jol there??
[01:26] <hype_> makuseru , gparted usb version
[01:26] <Amaranth> makuseru: try an alternative CD
[01:27] <grayman> actually
[01:27] <Pelo> hmmm
[01:27] <TheCreationist> Jordan_U: But wouldn't that remove all the programs within kubuntu-desktop that I DO use?
[01:27] <vio> Question: Can anyone help me "select" my proper sound card coz the pref->sound doesn't manage to do this
[01:27] <grayman> it -comments- all 3rd party repos during upgrade
[01:27] <auridius> Hi,does someone know if it is possible to have transparent menus in Gnome, like in KDE? I don't find anything on the web about it.
[01:27] <retarded> jol think it would be : go to places > computer > then right click on your cd drive and select "mount" when the cd is in
[01:27] <kneeki> Anyone know if the Emerald theme manager is working well with Feisty? I cannot seem to get it loaded. I can select a theme, but it's not being applied
[01:27] <carlosfs> Does anyone can help me with WPA on Ubuntu?
[01:27] <musya> anybody konw of a good IDE for c/c++?
[01:27] <gleesond> anyone know how to get s-video working with the open source radeon driver?
[01:27] <Amaranth> auridius: You can do that with compiz/beryl
[01:27] <grayman> musya, gui?
[01:27] <musya> yea
[01:27] <thoreauputic> TheCreationist: you are free to use 3rd party apps - but don't blame Ubuntu if they break your system :)
[01:27] <grayman> eclipse or anjuta
[01:27] <Shiner_Man> In the guided partioner during the install, if you choose resize, does it resize the current edgy install?
[01:27] <kde185> musya: emacs
[01:28] <Jordan_U> TheCreationist, No, it wouldn't, unless whenever you use apt-get you see a message saying "these packages were automatically installed but are no longer needed : ... "
[01:28] <Shootfast> TheCreationist: can you try running the command through terminal and tell me the output?
[01:28] <grayman> kde185, eh, not so GUI
[01:28] <makuseru> Amaranth: i can do that on an alternitive?
[01:28] <musya> kde185: isnt emacs hard to use?
[01:28] <Auron0> Shootfast: I return. I have sucessfully installed ubunut, after figuring out that i had to disable my SLI on my video cards. My question is now getting wireless working. After reading the forums I am at a stand still. I have installed wifi radar. I am using a Linksys WMP54G wireless card.
[01:28] <TheCreationist> thoreauputic: No, my system works just fine right now... just the way I want it to.  But apparently I customized it too much in order to upgrade to Feisty.
[01:28] <grayman> i myself prefer vim
[01:28] <auridius> Amaranth: Thx, i will do some research about beryl.
[01:28] <Amaranth> makuseru: the alternative installer disc can resize partitions
[01:28] <XBehave> how to i get my ubuntu box to act as a dns for a win xp machine
[01:28] <thoreauputic> TheCreationist: read carefully ...
[01:28] <makuseru> Amaranth: i didnt know that
[01:28] <TheCreationist> Shootfast: I do run update-manager through the terminal.  But it doesn't show any errors... only the GUI does.
[01:28] <ceil420> auridius, there's a channel called #beryl for more info
[01:28] <Lord_Vader> anyone know when exactly feisty will be released today then?
[01:28] <kde185> musya: it has a fairly steep learning curve but once you figure it out it's incredibly powerful
[01:29] <Shootfast> Auron0: Thats excellent, shame SLI doesnt work.
[01:29] <thoreauputic> TheCreationist: as Amaranth said, 3rd party rrepos are known to sometimes cause upgrade issues
[01:29] <Jordan_U> TheCreationist, And if you do see that message just run apt-get install whatever those were to set them as manually installed
[01:29] <grayman> Lord_Vader, when it will be ready
[01:29] <NZheretic> If got a slight problem with the network-manager-applet not showing the ppp0 connection. Dial up works fine ( connects | disconnects ) but the applet still shows "no network connection"
[01:29] <alteroo_> Lord_Vader, nope
[01:29] <auridius> ceil420: Thx man, i appreciate this. ;-)
[01:29] <kitche> XBehave: setup named by default it's setup as a local cache server
[01:29] <ceil420> auridius, no problem o/
[01:29] <TheCreationist> man, a clean install would be so much easier and do exactly the same thing...
[01:29] <Lord_Vader> grayman, lol don't sound like 3d realms on me
[01:29] <wtdb> ubuntu.com is down are they uploading ff?
[01:29] <Auron0> Shootfast: Yes, I hope there is support soon, I don't want to keep taking out and putting the card back in for use in windows.
[01:29] <Shootfast> TheCreationist: The third party repos cause problems where they have different versions of the same programs to the official ones
[01:29] <Skyhook> hey is there much differemce between the beta and the official?
[01:29] <ceil420> wtdb, ubuntu.com is slow because of high traffic
[01:30] <wtdb> nevermind
[01:30] <ceil420> it's not "down"
[01:30] <makuseru> Amaranth: how do i resize form an alternate?
[01:30] <TheCreationist> Shootfast: So wouldn't just removing the 3rd party reps from my sources.lst be sufficient?
[01:30] <Lord_Vader> Skygge, yes
[01:30] <Lord_Vader> ..
[01:30] <Shootfast> ceil420: I noticed that :(
[01:30] <Amaranth> Skyhook: Yes, about 200-300MB worth of updates
[01:30] <XBehave> kitche:  where do i set that?
[01:30] <Lord_Vader> Skyhook, yes
[01:30] <Skyhook> i see
[01:30] <Amaranth> makuseru: go through the install up to the partitioning
[01:30] <grayman> Lord_Vader, it is not. Didn't you think that people might still be doing final tests and fixes before the release?
[01:30] <Jordan_U> TheCreationist, Or just run apt-get install kubuntu-desktop copy and paste the packages it adds then run apt-get remove and paste those in after the upgrade
[01:30] <Skyhook> thanks
[01:30] <grayman> *don't
[01:30] <makuseru> Amaranth: ahhhh
[01:30] <makuseru> ok
[01:30] <Lord_Vader> grayman, and they waited til the release day for that? lol
[01:30] <Shootfast> TheCreationist: that should hopefully fix it, or just comment the lines you dont want out
[01:30] <Zorlin> 29 minutes till fiesty launch apparently
[01:30] <kitche> XBehave: sudo apt-get install bind it's called named really but bind is what most people call it
[01:30] <jo1> i put a cd on the pc but the progam wont run to install ...what can  i do ?
[01:31] <grayman> Lord_Vader, you will be surprised how much stuff there's to do
[01:31] <Shiner_Man> How do you upgrade to 7.04 using the install cd?
[01:31] <Shootfast> Auron0: what was your card again?
[01:31] <mc44> Zorlin: according to whom?
[01:31] <TheCreationist> Shootfast: Well, I was told I would have to actually remove the packages that were installed from the 3rd party reps.
[01:31] <Amaranth> jo1: Is it a windows program?
[01:31] <swedekid> i need helpgetting my sound to work
[01:31] <calliope> grayman: well i just ran all the updates from synaptic package manager and the update-manager just ends up loading synaptic again. so what am i missing here? perhaps there has been some user-guide or faq for upgrading to ubuntu 7
[01:31] <DrNic1> Lord_Vader: write your own software project, even a very small one, then come back and say that ;)
[01:31] <Lord_Vader> grayman, yeah, but isn't it poor planning to to these things hours before it's going public?
[01:31] <Auron0> Shootfast: Linksys WMP54G, with a Broadcam BCM4306 chipset
[01:31] <Lord_Vader> do*
[01:31] <grayman> Lord_Vader, not really
[01:31] <Skyhook> when the official release comes out will it be put on bittorrent right away?
[01:31] <jo1> um i dont know its an mp3 program so i think its for my mp3
[01:31] <Amaranth> calliope: If you upgrade right now you'll get the final Ubuntu 7.04
[01:32] <grayman> calliope, hmm, well the upgrade is not officially available yet
[01:32] <musya> does anybody know what compiler anjuta uses?
[01:32] <Amaranth> musya: gcc
[01:32] <musya> ncie
[01:32] <Shootfast> TheCreationist: I would hope you didnt have to remove the programs, so try just commenting out the non official repos
[01:32] <musya> nice*
[01:32] <Lord_Vader> grayman, lol ok
[01:32] <grayman> musya, same like every other
[01:32] <grayman> gcc
[01:32] <samk> My stupid camera only exports in mp4 does anyone know how to convert it into avi or dv
[01:32] <TheCreationist> Shootfast: Yeah, I would hope that too... trying that now.
[01:32] <musya> not nessearily
[01:32] <Shootfast> Auron0: I'm just looking to see if it has drivers
[01:32] <jo1> amaranth: umm i htink so
[01:32] <grayman> well, it does
[01:32] <Amaranth> jo1: windows apps don't work on ubuntu
[01:33] <Lord_Vader> DrNic1, give me a little time and I might actually take you up on that
[01:33] <Amaranth> jo1: what mp3 player do you have?
[01:33] <musya> huh
[01:33] <musya> ?
[01:33] <Auron0> Shootfast: Alright, in SuSE i tried using ndiswrapper and that was a terrible failure, considering i couldnt find instructions to save my life.
[01:33] <jo1> amaranth
[01:33] <samk> does anyone know how to convert mp4 to avi or dv
[01:33] <jo1> i have creative
[01:33] <DrNic1> Lord_Vader: good for you, let us know how you get on :)
[01:33] <Lord_Vader> sure will
[01:33] <Amaranth> jo1: creative what?
[01:33] <Amaranth> jo1: it'll probably work with banshee
[01:34] <jo1> nomad jukebox zen xtra
[01:34] <jo1> whats banshee ?
[01:34] <samk> does anyone know how to convert mp4 to avi or dv
[01:34] <jStefan> A power cut, caused me to have a failed upgrade, what's the best way to recover?
[01:34] <Amaranth> jo1: a music player
[01:34] <kitche> jo1: it's gnomes version of amarok pretty much
[01:34] <jo1> oh
[01:34] <Jordan_U> Auron0, If you have a broadcom card and are planning on upgrading to Feisty I would simply use bcm43xxfwcutter instead, from Feisty
[01:34] <samk> jo1: are you talking to me?
[01:34] <nikitis> I got a question.  I installed sun-java6 packages but i go to run java programs I get a "java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Object" error.  I do a "which java" and it points to /usr/bin/java.  how do I get my paths to point to the new java?
[01:34] <Jordan_U> Auron0, Instead of NDIS wrapper that is
[01:34] <Auron0> Jordan_U: Thats great, but i have no internet to start with
[01:35] <Amaranth> nikitis: sudo update-alternatives java
[01:35] <TheCreationist> Okay, I've autoremoved beryl, and removed all my 3rd party reps, but the upgrade tool STILL just says "Could not calculate upgrade"
[01:35] <samk> does anyone know how to convert mp4 to avi or dv
[01:35] <Jordan_U> Auron0, Ok, do you have a thumb drive?
[01:35] <jo1> should i go install banshee?
[01:35] <Shootfast> Auron0: unfortunately its still NDISWrapper for you, but heres a complete guide for your card http://dossy.org/archives/000110.html
[01:35] <Amaranth> TheCreationist: Try doing a manual upgrade
[01:35] <jStefan> A power cut, caused me to have a failed upgrade, i get a busy box, what's the best way to recover?
[01:35] <Auron0> Jordan_U: Yes i do have an upgrade
[01:35] <DrNic1> well, ubuntu.com has gone back to saying the release is due tomorrow for me lol
[01:35] <nikitis> Amaranth, says update-alternatives: unknown argument `java'
[01:35] <Auron0> Jordan_U: err thumbdrive
[01:35] <kitche> samk: use a converter but mp4 might have drm stuff in it so it might not convert
[01:35] <Lord_Vader> DrNic1, same here
[01:35] <Amaranth> nikitis: oops, i forgot a part of the command, hang on :)
[01:36] <DrNic1> it might have fallen back to an older copy of the site on another server due to excessive load
[01:36] <samk> I asking what converter and all of tem ive found are shareware for windows
[01:36] <Lord_Vader> DrNic1, it even changed to different fonts on the red release banner before it changed back, it was nice
[01:36] <thoreauputic> nikitis: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[01:36] <Amaranth> nikitis: sudo update-alternatives --set java /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java
[01:36] <jStefan> could i use a livecd to recover from a failed upgrade?
[01:36] <DrNic1> it might have fallen back to an older copy of the site on another server due to excessive load, that's what i'd guess
[01:36] <ceil420> how do you autoremove?
[01:36] <Lord_Vader> yeah
[01:36] <thoreauputic> Amaranth: --config is easier ( just a choice)
[01:36] <nikitis> ok i selected java 6
[01:37] <kde185> hey ubuntu.com isn't melting anymore
[01:37] <Auron0> Shootfast: well I hope i can get this working...i am going to download the files off that site, as well as NDISwrapper
[01:37] <Amaranth> jStefan: you can boot a desktop CD and chroot into your system to complete the upgrade
[01:37] <Lord_Vader> lol kde185
[01:37] <Auron0> Shootfast: And give it another go
[01:37] <samk> melting?
[01:37] <Amaranth> jStefan: it's not a simple thing though
[01:37] <ceil420> kde185, maybe the people that were flooding it got frustrated :p
[01:37] <samk> how was it melting
[01:37] <jStefan> Amaranth, any wiki on that?
[01:37] <nikitis> Amaranth, i still get a javaClassLang Def error
[01:37] <Amaranth> samk: 100000 people trying to upgrade at once :)
[01:37] <thoreauputic> samk:  thousands of eager people hitting the server
[01:37] <kde185> samk: what Amaranth said
[01:37] <Amaranth> nikitis: then i'll need more details :)
[01:37] <Jordan_U> Auron0, OK, you can try just getting the firmware and putting it in /lib/firmware from the  thumb drive, but this will work better from Feisty and only if you have a broadcom card
[01:37] <Shootfast> Auron0: id get the ndiswrapper from the ubuntu repos though
[01:37] <samk> has the uprage it the server yet?
[01:38] <samk> upgrade
[01:38] <DrNic1> out of interest, does anyone know what fakeRAID support is like in feasty?  as in, dmRAID support, is it loaded by the installer now, or does one still have to set it up yourself?
[01:38] <Stoffer> does anyone here know why my wireless network strength is 50% lower in ubuntu than windows?
[01:38] <kde185> samk: nope
[01:38] <Amaranth> Stoffer: broadcom?
[01:38] <jo1> question if i have an ipod theres no way i can use it ?
[01:38] <Jordan_U> DrNic1, You need to use the alternate install CD
[01:38] <samk> then y are people flooding the servers
[01:38] <Auron0> Jordan_U: The card is Linksys, not broadcam, the chipset is broadcam however.
[01:38] <Stoffer> Amallya, dlink
[01:38] <kde185> jo1: use gtkpod
[01:38] <Stoffer> Amallya, it was automatically detected
[01:38] <XBehave> kitche:  ive setup named/bind but his computer still wont see mine both cards are working and its a straight conection using a normal cable?
[01:38] <Auron0> Shootfast: Ok...i am going to have to find that
[01:38] <jo1> oh ok
[01:38] <Amaranth> jo1: iPod support is great, you can use it from Ubuntu's default music player
[01:38] <Auron0> Shootfast: Considering i dont know where to look xD
[01:38] <jo1> oh i see
[01:38] <nikitis> Amaranth, ok, sure, i'm trying to run groupwise on ubuntu.  (I have my reasons)  I go to run it and I receive this error "Error occurred during initialization of VMjava/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Object"
[01:38] <jo1> alright cool
[01:39] <Jordan_U> Auron0, Ok, I will get some firmware for you to try, just a second...
[01:39] <DrNic1> Jordan_U: yeah i'm not talking about md soft raid, i'm meaning SATA / ATA RAID controllers which aren't true RAID cards
[01:39] <Lord_Vader> I'ma get the feisty iso with wget to ease the pain for the servers, that way I get it faster and the servers can serve the rest
[01:39] <Amaranth> jo1: When you plug the iPod in the music player app should start automatically
[01:39] <kitche> XBehave: well it's due to his windows settings need changed for networking so the dns setting points to your computer he will need a second dns though also
[01:39] <AneurismCrew> i configured an print server with cups/samba, but only windows xp see the shared printers, why win98 machines don't see ={
[01:39] <Auron0> Jordon_U its ok i have files to use
[01:39] <Amaranth> jo1: and you can drop things on to the iPod or delete them
[01:39] <AneurismCrew> and sorry, my english is bad, i'm from brasil
[01:39] <TheCreationist> Why are the instructions for updating to Feisty on the Ubuntu site wrong?  They claim to use Adept and it's supposed to offer a choice to upgrade?  But there is no such indication.
[01:39] <Amaranth> jo1: sadly no sync or playlist support though
[01:39] <Jordan_U> Auron0, You have the firmware?
[01:39] <jo1> oh i see
[01:40] <Amaranth> TheCreationist: Because feisty isn't officially released yet
[01:40] <Auron0> Jordan_U i have the drivers and files needed for the card
[01:40] <Madpilot> ubotu, br | AneurismCrew
[01:40] <TheCreationist> Amaranth: Ah.
[01:40] <XBehave> but what will the ip of my computer be for him? should i fix mine in my settings and then tell him to look at me?
[01:40] <ceil420> AneurismCrew, you're asking for Windows support in an Ubuntu channel; just sayin', I don't know how helpful people here will be
[01:40] <jStefan> Amaranth, how would i chroot, any guide/wiki ?
[01:40] <Shootfast> Auron0: start up synaptic and then enable the universe and multiverse by clicking manage repositories
[01:40] <Jordan_U> TheCreationist, Because it hasn't been released yet
[01:40] <ubotu> AneurismCrew: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[01:40] <Amaranth> jStefan: let me look
[01:40] <jo1> im installing banshee right now to see if it works.
[01:40] <Shootfast> Auron0: then update the lists and you should be able to find it
[01:40] <nite613_> !ati
[01:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:40] <kitche> XBehave: ip should tell you your ip think that's what ubuntu uses
[01:40] <Madpilot> AneurismCrew, there's a good Ubuntu-BR group, try the channel the bot just suggested
[01:40] <[Al] > Since I am exceptionally lazy to a fault, and also incredibly curious, can anyone tell me how to get my KDE computer to come out of power-saving mode using SSH?
[01:40] <Auron0> Shootfast: umm lol, you lost me there. I am not a linux genious by any means
[01:41] <jStefan> Amaranth, i think i found one: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LivecdRecovery
[01:41] <kde185> jStefan: the gentoo installation good instructions on chroot-ing the environment
[01:41] <Jordan_U> Auron0, You need the _firmware_ extracted from those drivers, and to extract it you need to install a program, from the internet :)
[01:41] <Amaranth> jStefan: that's what i was about to paste :)
[01:41] <kde185> jStefan: *has good
[01:41] <jStefan> kde185, if this fails i'll check into it
[01:41] <jStefan> thx
[01:41] <samk> does anyone know how to convert mp4 to avi or dv?
[01:42] <Auron0> Jordon_U i am going to assume you are talking about NDISwrapper
[01:42] <Shootfast> Auron0: thats ok, just click system>>>administration and click on Synaptic Package Manager
[01:42] <Amaranth> jStefan: No need to look at the gentoo guides. If that doesn't work you'll have to do a clean install
[01:42] <Jordan_U> Auron0, No, I am not, I am talking about native Linux drivers
[01:42] <samk> does anyone know how to convert mp4 to avi or dv?
[01:42] <Auron0> Shootfast: OK i am going to go try that, getting help from two sources is confusing me XD
[01:42] <Shootfast> Jordan_U: Are there native drivers for his Broadcom card?
[01:43] <Amaranth> samk: Some long complicated mencoder command
[01:43] <Jordan_U> Shootfast, There are native drivers for all broadcom cards AFIK
[01:43] <samk> does anyone know it?
[01:43] <genii> bcm43xx
[01:44] <Shootfast> Jordan_U: I thought there were NO drivers for broadcom cards, and everyone had to use NDISWrapper
[01:44] <NoOne> hi
[01:44] <Amaranth> samk: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-broken-ubuntu-feisty-fawn.htmlHTML/en/menc-feat-mpeg4.html
[01:44] <samk> ubuntu page is slow
[01:44] <Lord_Vader> samk, no kidding?
[01:44] <Amaranth> samk: but instead of dvd://2 put in the path to the mp4 file
[01:44] <Shootfast> Auron0: Anyways, what im telling you is useful as it will also make sure your software is all up to date
[01:44] <samk> it says url not found
[01:44] <darkhack> Hey all
[01:44] <Lord_Vader> yeah
[01:45] <Jordan_U> Shootfast, Nope, just no firmware, and until Feisty, the drivers weren't as good as the windows drivers, now they are
[01:45] <Amaranth> samk: yeah, broken copy :P
[01:45] <DrNic1> samk: I think you'd be slow if you were doing the webserver's job....
[01:45] <Amaranth> samk: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/menc-feat-mpeg4.html
[01:45] <samk> no kidding what?
[01:45] <Auron0> Shootfast: Ok, I am attempting to get the correct packages installed
[01:45] <Shootfast> Jordan_U: Awesome, but isnt Auron0 running edgy?
[01:45] <jStefan> Amaranth, seems i'm on the right path, doing dpkg --congure -a, to resume from where it was
[01:45] <Lord_Vader> samk, that the site is slow
[01:45] <Lord_Vader> lol
[01:45] <Amaranth> jStefan: cool
[01:45] <samk> the link u posted is 404 not found
[01:46] <deserteagle> baaaah :(
[01:46] <deserteagle> x won't start at all
[01:46] <Jordan_U> Shootfast, Yes, I am hoping that the older drivers work well enough to upgrade, I used them for a few years sucessfully on my PPC mac
[01:46] <deserteagle> even reconfiguring xserver-xorg
[01:46] <deserteagle> :( help
[01:46] <darkhack> Tell me, has everyone experinece problem with azureus when download and notice the download download keep dropping to 0 in a few min or sec?
[01:46] <Lord_Vader> darkhack, yes
[01:46] <deserteagle> darkhack: bittornado :D
[01:46] <TheDragon_> what is a good kazaa-like program for ubuntu?
[01:46] <TheDragon_> or soulseek
[01:46] <Lord_Vader> darkhack, solution = rtorrent
[01:47] <Lord_Vader> :D
[01:47] <kde185> TheDragon_: Frostwire
[01:47] <Lord_Vader> TheDragon_, gtk-gnutella
[01:47] <samk> does anyone know how to convert mp4 to avi or dv
[01:47] <Lord_Vader> and frostwire as kde185 said
[01:47] <jo1> amaranth: i tryed to import them n it said banshee ecountered a fatal error: copying tracks from NJB devices not possivle
[01:47] <deserteagle> help! i'm stuck in command line mode
[01:47] <Shootfast> Jordan_U: awesome
[01:47] <[Al] > Hey what's the KDE equivalent of gnome-screensaver?
[01:47] <Amaranth> jo1: hrm, that should have worked
[01:47] <deserteagle> startx keeps crashing
[01:47] <Jordan_U> Auron0, Can I send you the tar.gz with the firmware?
[01:47] <XBehave> kscreensaver
[01:47] <Shootfast> Amaranth:  kscreensaver
[01:47] <calliope> samk you should have a look to see if the VideoLan Project can make that happen
[01:47] <[Al] > It is not what I would expect!
[01:47] <[Al] > orly
[01:47] <kde185> TheDragon_: gtk-gnutella is in my opinion unnesecarily complex and ugly to use
[01:47] <[Al] > Surely you jest :/
[01:47] <jo1> aww man
[01:47] <TheDragon_> k im d/ling frostwire thx
[01:48] <darkhack> Any altenative to azureus and so far, I got a few
[01:48] <Amaranth> Shootfast: ?
[01:48] <samk> Im new and clueless what is that
[01:48] <Auron0> Jordan_U i am going to get my help from shootfast, sorry but thanks
[01:48] <TheDragon_> im also trying to get into C programming but not sure where to begin
[01:48] <Shootfast> Amaranth: yes?
[01:48] <[Al] > hm that is not running
[01:48] <AaronM> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ :O
[01:48] <hype_> darkhack transmission
[01:48] <[Al] > why did my screen turn off then?
[01:48] <Amaranth> darkhack: uTorrent under WINE :)
[01:48] <[Al] > Is there something else that controls that?
[01:48] <sumair> everytime i load beryl manager, i get an error and it doesn't work. i followed all the instruction, don't know what im doing wrong
[01:48] <Amaranth> Shootfast: why do i need to know about kscreensaver?
[01:48] <Auron0> Shootfast: I cant find what you are talking about in synaptic
[01:48] <kde185> TheDragon_: there is a problem with it not starting if you use beryl/compiz but that's just a quick google search and fix
[01:48] <[Al] > darkhack: btdownloadcurses in a terminal
[01:48] <[Al] > :>
[01:48] <froyd> hi peps, can anybody help with FQDN
[01:48] <hype_> :>
[01:48] <hype_> transmiton is light tho
[01:48] <Amaranth> sumair: #beryl
[01:48] <Shootfast> Amaranth: haha, your name was under the one i meant to type :P
[01:48] <froyd> i need to know how do i set my FQDN in my ubuntu
[01:48] <Lord_Vader> Auron0, It's... released?
[01:49] <Amaranth> froyd: for?
[01:49] <Shootfast> everything scrolled up to quick :P
[01:49] <deserteagle> could someone help with an x server problem?
[01:49] <sumair> thanks
[01:49] <genii> sumair Try the channel #ubuntu-effects for stuff dealing specifically with beryl and themes etc
[01:49] <deserteagle> brownie points for whomever can help me :D
[01:49] <froyd> Amaranth: well, my apache works fine, but everytime it starts or restarts, it tells me that i dont have a FQDN
[01:49] <darkhack> thanks for the recommendation
[01:49] <froyd> i tried the hostname file
[01:49] <Amaranth> froyd: oh, that's an apache configuration issue
[01:49] <deserteagle> i miss firefox and xchat and my pretty wallpaper and ROX...
[01:49] <dj-fu> froyd: do you?
[01:49] <hype_> darkhack  http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php/Transmission
[01:50] <hype_> :)
[01:50] <froyd> i did
[01:50] <samk> does anyone know how to convert mp4 to avi or dvdoes anyone know how to convert mp4 to avi or dv
[01:50] <Amaranth> froyd: but i don't know what config option in apache to change
[01:50] <Shootfast> Auron0: ok, click settings>>>Repositories
[01:50] <deserteagle> i'm stuck with bitchx and lynx and ASCII art :(
[01:50] <froyd> but apache keeps telling me that i still dont have
[01:50] <Amaranth> froyd: I would just ignore if it apache works
[01:50] <Auron0> Shootfast: Ok then what were the two i was doing...
[01:50] <Amaranth> samk: i just gave you a link that said how
[01:50] <froyd> so i have to tell apache through a config that i have a FQDN
[01:50] <[Al] > darkhack: if you do screen btdownloadcurses [file]  you can use ctrl-a then d to detatch it from the terminal
[01:50] <Amaranth> froyd: yeah
[01:50] <Shootfast> Auron0: then enable the universe and multiverse
[01:50] <[Al] > That's what I do
[01:50] <Auron0> Shootfast: OK, let me do that
[01:50] <TheDragon_> FrostWire won't load
[01:50] <froyd> i know, its just that im in my MCSE class now and we sparked the conversation about the FQDN
[01:50] <samk> Amaranth: the link was broken
[01:50] <Amaranth> samk: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/menc-feat-mpeg4.html
[01:51] <froyd> and my teacher is buggin me telling me that i need dns server to set my FQDN
[01:51] <kde185> TheDragon_: ok well I can give you the fix that worked for me
[01:51] <froyd> and i dont agree :D
[01:51] <Amaranth> samk: I repasted a working link twice now :)
[01:51] <froyd> everything is possible in linux land right :D
[01:51] <[Al] > yep
[01:51] <[Al] > Except corporate sellout
[01:51] <Amaranth> froyd: you probably set ServerName to something other than localhost :)
[01:51] <deserteagle> except getting x server to work
[01:51] <tigh> So, I am having lots of trouble compiling things with ubuntu
[01:51] <deserteagle> :(
[01:51] <Shootfast> Auron0: then when you close it, it will tell you to update your lists, so to do that, click reload
[01:51] <Amaranth> froyd: Otherwise you can run a DNS server on your ubuntu machine
[01:51] <froyd> ill try Amaranth :D
[01:51] <froyd> Amaranth: ill would conflic the whole college network :D
[01:51] <Auron0> Shootfast: Do i need to load the LiveCD...i dont see anywhere to load universe and multiverse?
[01:51] <[Al] > I am going to go before someone asks a question I can nearly but not quite answer. Bye!
[01:52] <Amaranth> froyd: hehe
[01:52] <locolbd> !beryl
[01:52] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:52] <samk> Amaranth:Thats pretty complex Ill just deal with finding a free converter
[01:52] <froyd> wich would be cool hey :D
[01:52] <froyd> but thx guys
[01:52] <jo1> amaranth i think i got it thanks ..^_^ for ur help
[01:52] <darkhack> thanks alot
[01:52] <Amaranth> samk: that is a free converter
[01:52] <froyd> so i probably have my FQDN its just that the apache prob is unaware of it
[01:52] <Amaranth> samk: and it's two lines you can copy and paste
[01:52] <Shootfast> Auron0: are you running edgy or feisty?
[01:52] <Skyhook> can I download from here: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[01:52] <Amaranth> samk: all you have to do is change dvd://2 to the path to your file
[01:52] <Auron0> Shootfast: edgy
[01:52] <Shootfast> Auron0: and your in gnome right?
[01:52] <Auron0> Shootfast: correct
[01:52] <Lord_Vader> I just wish all the dudes with a 56K modem would stop bothering the site right now
[01:53] <deserteagle> please heeeelllppp ubuntu doesn't show anything!
[01:53] <Jordan_U> Auron0, If you want to try the native drivers just unzip this to /lib/firmware and restart http://trogdoor.googlepages.com/firmware.zip
[01:53] <Amaranth> samk: and 'converter' you find will just be a GUI wrapper around those lines
[01:53] <deserteagle> i'm stuck in black and white land
[01:53] <Shootfast> Auron0: well it when you click on repositories, there should be a bunch of check boxes
[01:53] <kitche> froyd: well you do need a DNS server
[01:53] <apecat> Skyhook: the final feisty isn't there yet
[01:53] <Amaranth> deserteagle: need more details
[01:53] <darkhack> people still using 56k connection
[01:53] <darkhack> Oh boy..
[01:53] <deserteagle> Amaranth: x server crashes horribly
[01:53] <AneurismCrew> i configured an print server with cups/samba, but only windows xp see the shared printers, why win98 machines don't see ={
[01:53] <Auron0> Shootfast: There isnt there...but when i go back to the main screen i see a whole bunch of packages that are either ticked or not...
[01:53] <bruenig> Auron0, there is a very fast way to add repos with a single command
[01:54] <apecat> deserteagle: which ubuntu release?
[01:54] <Lord_Vader> darkhack, at least some dumb... people here in sweden I think
[01:54] <Amaranth> deserteagle: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg
[01:54] <deserteagle> apecat: 6.10
[01:54] <phr0z3n> www.ubuntu.com is down?
[01:54] <Amaranth> deserteagle: that'll reset the xorg config to what it was when you install ubuntu
[01:54] <phr0z3n> iiiiiiiinteresitng.
[01:54] <Amaranth> phr0z3n: high traffic
[01:54] <tigh> how can I remap keys?
[01:54] <deserteagle> Amaranth: but i got a new monitor
[01:54] <tigh> please?
[01:54] <deserteagle> that's the thing
[01:54] <Jordan_U> phr0z3n, No, just verrrrrrry slow :)
[01:54] <phr0z3n> Amaranth, whats going on :O
 lol
[01:54] <tigh> I don't have a down button or a pipe.
[01:55] <apecat> deserteagle: ok. take a look in your /etc/X11/ and rename some old backup to  xorg.conf
[01:55] <Lord_Vader> :P
[01:55] <smo> hi it seems i have some problems with dbus ( edgy/2.6.17-10 generic ) for burning for exemple libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Failed to open session DBUS connection: Did not receive a reply
[01:55] <Shootfast> Auron0: well lets get your wireless up first, download that package from Jordan_U and unzip it to /lib/firmware
[01:55] <deserteagle> Amaranth: i ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and gave it the correct hsync and v rates but nothing
[01:55] <smo> any idear
[01:55] <tigh> I miss my pipe button
[01:55] <Amaranth> deserteagle: reset to how it was on install is the wrong wording, what it really does is reset the config to how it would be if you did a fresh install
[01:55] <tigh> how can I remap keys
[01:55] <samk> what tars do I need to install beryl
[01:55] <deserteagle> apecat: does nothing :(
[01:55] <smo> already tried to reinstall dbus but no effects...
[01:55] <bruenig> !beryl | samk
[01:55] <ubotu> samk: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:55] <Amaranth> deserteagle: do it with -pcritical
[01:55] <apecat> deserteagle: ah, k missed the part with the new monitor
[01:55] <Amaranth> deserteagle: it won't ask any questions, it'll just go
[01:55] <deserteagle> Amaranth: ooooh ok i see
[01:55] <Auron0> Shootfast: ok let me get my thumbdrive and do that
[01:55] <deserteagle> :D
[01:55] <deserteagle> yey!
[01:55] <AneurismCrew> i configured an print server with cups/samba, but only windows xp see the shared printers, why win98 machines don't see ={
[01:56] <Jordan_U> Shootfast, If NDIS wrapper works there is no need to get the firmware, I just prefer to use native drivers
[01:56] <deserteagle> wait
[01:56] <deserteagle> crap
[01:56] <Lord_Vader> lol
[01:56] <deserteagle> Amaranth: can you say the command i'm supposed to run again?
[01:56] <deserteagle> i don't know how to scroll in bitchx
[01:56] <deserteagle> :(
[01:56] <Amaranth> AneurismCrew: win98 must not support the version of the SMB protocol samba uses
[01:56] <Lord_Vader> such a bitch
[01:56] <Amaranth> deserteagle: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg
[01:56] <Amaranth> !ohmy | Lord_Vader
[01:56] <ubotu> Lord_Vader: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:56] <deserteagle> thanx!
[01:56] <darkhack> beryl are awesome but when playing certain video file, it look sluggish
[01:56] <concept10> deserteagle, page up
[01:56] <adder1973> Waiting for 7.04 anyone?  3 mins left
[01:57] <Lord_Vader> Amaranth, lol I know but that client name is so funny
[01:57] <AneurismCrew> Amaranth, is any method to make win98 support?
[01:57] <ksluder> anyone ever experience "stale NFS file handle" while trying to mount a FUSE volume in an NFS home directory?
[01:57] <Amaranth> adder1973: Where are you getting that info?
[01:57] <bruenig> adder1973, they don't roll it out at midnight or anything
[01:57] <Amaranth> ksluder: NFS and FUSE probably don't get along too well
[01:57] <RxDx> is website down?
[01:57] <Amaranth> RxDx: It's getting hammered
[01:57] <Lord_Vader> RxDx, on and off
[01:57] <darkhack> I got mine already
[01:57] <RxDx> tnx :)
[01:57] <darkhack> lol
[01:57] <RxDx> i want feisty final =X
[01:58] <Auron0> Shootfast: Ok, going to load the firmware
[01:58] <deserteagle> Amaranth: nothing! O_O
[01:58] <deserteagle> >_<
[01:58] <RxDx> how?
[01:58] <ksluder> Amaranth: is there a FUSE channel that might have more info on a work-around?  i *really* need FUSE and i need it to run on machines I don't control (final project for operating systems class :( )
[01:58] <Amaranth> deserteagle: alright, one last thing
[01:58] <Shootfast> Jordan_U: : Native drivers are always better than NDISWrapper
[01:58] <Amaranth> !fixres | deserteagle
[01:58] <deserteagle> ok
[01:58] <ubotu> deserteagle: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:58] <RxDx> did u upgrade your beta version?
[01:58] <Lord_Vader> Amaranth, and will you plz share the info on how to get it
[01:58] <bruenig> get the rc, I would be willing to gamble that there is no difference
[01:58] <Shootfast> Auron0: awesome, after youve done that you have to restart
[01:58] <Amaranth> Lord_Vader: I've been using feisty since the day the repos opened
[01:59] <darkhack> boy, I need to get myself a new dvd burner
[01:59] <Amaranth> Lord_Vader: I'm fully up-to-date so I have the final version
[01:59] <Lord_Vader> Amaranth, ahh I see
[01:59] <Lord_Vader> my beta broke
[01:59] <Lord_Vader> updates killed it completly
[01:59] <Lord_Vader> wouldn't even log into a terminal session
[01:59] <deserteagle> Amaranth: nothing :(
[01:59] <Amaranth> yeah, that happens sometimes
[01:59] <Amaranth> deserteagle: hrm
[01:59] <Lord_Vader> yeah
[02:00] <mjr> ksluder, how about mounting your fuse dirs under /tmp/$USER or something as a workaround?
[02:00] <Amaranth> deserteagle: any way you can pastebin the xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[02:00] <darkhack> which plat form is everyone running?
[02:00] <deserteagle> still says xserver crashed
[02:00] <darkhack> 32 or64?
[02:00] <Lord_Vader> 32
[02:00] <bruenig> !offtopic | darkhack
[02:00] <ubotu> darkhack: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:00] <Amaranth> darkhack: 64-bit ubuntu is generally not good
[02:00] <Auron0> Shootfast: ok, its telling me I dont have permission to write to /lib/firmware
[02:00] <Stoffer> for my wireless network connection...is there anything I could do to make it connect once I get it configured?
[02:00] <Amaranth> darkhack: Unless you don't want any closed-source software/codecs
[02:01] <deserteagle> Amaranth: lemme check
[02:01] <yeason> I'm new at setting up webservers and I want to be able to update the files remotely from an XP machine, can someone point me in the right direction to get some info on this
[02:01] <carlosfs> Does anyone can help me enable wpa in ubuntu?
[02:01] <Shootfast> use sudo
[02:01] <yeason> I'm using ubuntu-server
[02:01] <Amaranth> yeason: Install openssh-server
[02:01] <ksluder> mjr: well, that'll work, but i don't think that's a good idea
[02:01] <Auron0> Shootfast: umm...
[02:01] <Amaranth> yeason: Then you can use WinSCP to copy files to the machine and PuTTY to login remotely
[02:01] <Shootfast> what unzipping program did it open?
[02:01] <ksluder> i mean i guess it might work if i created the filesystem there and then symlinked the desired directory to the /tmp one
[02:02] <yeason> amaranth: and that would be the most highly recommended method
[02:02] <Shootfast> (I've not used gnome for ages)
[02:02] <mjr> ksluder, well, it's a worse idea than fixing fuse/nfs interaction and a better idea than not having fuse.
[02:02] <Amaranth> yeason: Yeah
[02:02] <deserteagle> Amaranth: it basically tries to run each resolution but keeps saying that they are not supported
[02:02] <DrNic1> ok, nite all, 1AM's bedtime i think.
[02:02] <Shootfast> Auron0: is it Ark? or some other unzipping program?
[02:02] <Amaranth> deserteagle: not supported by what? the monitor?
[02:02] <Auron0> Shootfast: Well i didn't use an unzip program...i extracted them to my thumbdrive and tried to drag and drop the files to /lib/firmware
 that true and seem like any many 64 app yet, plus I can't get flash working
[02:02] <deserteagle> "The requested configuration of display devices is not supported in the hardware"
[02:02] <ksluder> mjr: that makes sense :)
[02:03] <Amaranth> darkhack: try configuring xorg to use the vesa driver and 800x600 resolution
[02:03] <shoot^> is there a way to get trash from a mounted volume (ntfs) to appear in the same 'bin' linked to from the desktop?
[02:03] <Lord_Vader> wireless electricity would be sweet
[02:03] <Lord_Vader> lol
[02:03] <yeason> Amaranth: thnx, I'll prolly be back around later with problems for you to help me with =P
[02:03] <deserteagle> Amaranth: "AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0"
[02:03] <Shootfast> Auron0: oh ok, well open the terminal and use "sudo cp /path/to/thumbdrive /lib/firmware
[02:03] <Amaranth> deserteagle: ouch
[02:03] <ksluder> thx Amaranth and mjr
[02:03] <mwe> Lord_Vader: it exists
[02:03] <Amaranth> yeason: alright, i'll probably be here :)
[02:03] <Lord_Vader> mwe, lightning?
[02:03] <Lord_Vader> or wat
[02:03] <Agalmatophiliac> how do you setup the dial up account with a modem ?
[02:03] <mwe> Lord_Vader: only for very short distances, though
[02:03] <Auron0> Shootfast: ok, lets see if i can figure that out then
[02:03] <Amaranth> mwe: and very low power
[02:04] <Lord_Vader> mwe, nice, have any article on that?
[02:04] <mjr> Lord_Vader, just run RFC 3251 over WLAN ;P
[02:04] <Jordan_U> darkhack, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[02:04] <Lord_Vader> lol
[02:04] <mwe> Lord_Vader: hmm. I stumbled upon it. didn't bookmark it
[02:04] <Amaranth> This is a _really_ bad time for any kind of offtopic chatter in here though
[02:04] <Lord_Vader> mwe, k :P any ideas what I should google for then
[02:04] <Lord_Vader> keywords
[02:04] <deserteagle> Amaranth: but the error output in the terminal actually says something more: "...you continue to have problems, Please try reinstalling the NVIDIA driver. The requested configuration of display devices is not supported by the hardware"
[02:04] <darkhack> thanks Jordan
[02:05] <Amaranth> hey it's 7:04 pm :)
[02:05] <mwe> Lord_Vader: it's OT :)
[02:05] <Amaranth> deserteagle: that's why i said to switch to the vesa driver to test :)
[02:05] <Lord_Vader> mwe, off-topic?
[02:05] <deserteagle> you did? i'm sorry
[02:05] <deserteagle> must've missed that
[02:05] <mwe> Lord_Vader: yeah
[02:05] <Lord_Vader> ..
[02:05] <Amaranth> deserteagle: irssi is hard :)
[02:05] <[BTF] Chm0d> hwo do i create an .iso file from my cdrom?
[02:05] <deserteagle> lemme check
[02:05] <Amaranth> !offtopic | Lord_Vader
[02:05] <ubotu> Lord_Vader: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:05] <Lord_Vader> Amaranth, he's using bitchx
[02:05] <deserteagle> yeh
[02:06] <Amaranth> Lord_Vader: even worse
[02:06] <[BTF] Chm0d> i just slipstreamed my os with my drivers on it
[02:06] <deserteagle> can't pm :S
[02:06] <Lord_Vader> Amaranth, I know
[02:06] <genii> cat /dev/hd# /someplace/file.iso       hd# = cdrom
[02:06] <Amaranth> [BTF] Chm0d: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=foo.iso
[02:06] <deserteagle> k so to try it with vesa, just put Driver "vesa"?
[02:06] <[BTF] Chm0d> ty
[02:06] <Amaranth> deserteagle: yeah
[02:06] <regress> is there a specific time that Feisty will be released? Like, 00:01, or 23:59?
[02:06] <deserteagle> how 'bout "nv" instead? :D
[02:06] <Amaranth> regress: no
[02:06] <genii> dd good too
[02:06] <Auron0> Shootfast: I tried to wing it typing the commands but i couldn't do it. My thumbdrive is called ZOMGWTFBBQ!
[02:06] <_Raldz_> it's out
[02:06] <Amaranth> deserteagle: nv is generally terrible
[02:07] <deserteagle> oic
[02:07] <regress> alright, just some time tomorrow then?
[02:07] <_Raldz_> http://mirror.lupaworld.com/ubuntu/releases/7.04/
[02:07] <m4st3r> hi all
[02:07] <Lord_Vader> _Raldz_, that's beta my friend
[02:07] <sishgupta__> Just because you can dl the ISO it doesn't make it officially out. You have been able to get the final iso for a few days now...
[02:07] <rever> Good Evening all I am having issues logging into Gnome from GDM. GDM starts up but when I log in it sits for a minute then GDM restarts. After that I then can log into my Gnome session.
[02:07] <deserteagle> Amaranth: OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG!!!!1111 shift one
[02:07] <deserteagle> it worked :D
[02:07] <_Raldz_> nope.. it's final..
[02:08] <Bones> |CD|Away| ReAway after disconnect:|Auto away after 15 Mins| - duration:|17mins 18secs|
[02:08] <Agalmatophiliac> !dialup modem
[02:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dialup modem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:08] <_Raldz_> they are the first mirrors to have it
[02:08] <Amaranth> deserteagle: well, that's a start :)
[02:08] <deserteagle> so all i gotta do is update nvidia drivers?
[02:08] <Lord_Vader> _Raldz_, it says final? Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) Beta
[02:08] <regress> heh, I'm be curious to see what changes between now and the official release though
[02:08] <Amaranth> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.04/ <--empty dir
[02:08] <Amaranth> deserteagle: try reinstalling them
[02:08] <m4st3r> is ubuntu 7.04 release?
[02:08] <Lord_Vader> ah well
[02:08] <Amaranth> m4st3r: no
[02:08] <_Raldz_> the headers says Beta.. but the ISO is final
[02:08] <Lord_Vader> k
[02:08] <m4st3r> thanks I can't join ubuntu.com
[02:08] <Lord_Vader> will get it
[02:08] <rever> Ixrdb: Connection refused
[02:08] <rever> xrdb: Can't open display ':0'
[02:08] <rever> /usr/bin/xmodmap:  unable to open display ':0'
[02:08] <Shootfast> Auron0: lol
[02:08] <regress> yeah, it looks like the iso is final
[02:08] <Lord_Vader> _Raldz_, hey do you know where I can get the dvd-iso?
[02:08] <sishgupta__> the 20070415 daily is final isnt it? just get it there...
[02:08] <rever> That is what I see in xsession-errors
[02:09] <Amaranth> We're in the final stages before release
[02:09] <smo> libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Failed to open session DBUS connection: Did not receive a reply anyone have an idear about this error please???
[02:09] <_Raldz_> no torrents yet
[02:09] <Shootfast> Auron0: um, im not sure where abouts usb devices are mounted
[02:09] <regress> great, thanks _Raldz_
[02:09] <Amaranth> Kubuntu is ready, Edubuntu is ready (i think)
[02:09] <[BTF] Chm0d> Amaranth, once I do that where does it put the iso file?
[02:09] <m4st3r> i cant join or I dont join ? what is right?
[02:09] <deserteagle> Amaranth: how could i tell openbox to launch from TTY1?
[02:09] <regress> is there any news that it's finished?
[02:09] <Amaranth> If Ubuntu is ready we'll have a release within the hour
[02:09] <Shootfast> can you copy the files to your desktop?
[02:09] <Auron0> Shootfast: yeah i dont know either...can i take the winzip archive, put it on the desktop, then try it from there?
[02:09] <Auron0> SHootfast: I will try
[02:09] <Amaranth> deserteagle: I dunno
[02:09] <Lord_Vader> Amaranth, that's great news, thanks man
[02:09] <moDumass> hey all, Im using kaffeine in ubuntu and i watched a movie last night with audio but this morning its muted and i dont have an unmute option, any ideas?
[02:10] <_Raldz_> the mirrors needs to update the headers.. but there is a lot of job getting the ISOs sync..
[02:10] <mwe> !sound | moDumass
[02:10] <ubotu> moDumass: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:10] <Lord_Vader> _Raldz_, makes you think if there isn't a better way to do it
[02:10] <mstrzele> _Raldz_: ISO from http://mirror.lupaworld.com/ubuntu/releases/7.04/ is really daily-live 20070415
[02:10] <deserteagle> Amaranth: what about the environment variable for display? (wasn't it $DISPLAY?)
[02:11] <Amaranth> deserteagle: DISPLAY=:0 command
[02:11] <Auron0> Shootfast: I have them on the desktop now
[02:11] <deserteagle> :D ty!
[02:11] <_Raldz_> then perhaps the daily live made it to the final
[02:11] <Lord_Vader> well torrents lol
[02:11] <kiba> torrent__
[02:11] <Shootfast> Auron0: is it a series of files or just one folder
[02:11] <chistoph> so how many hours exactly to 7.04? It seems like it's been saying tomorrow for 2 days from here.
[02:11] <Auron0> SHootfast: series of files
[02:11] <Lord_Vader> chistoph, he said one hour just a minute ago
[02:11] <_Raldz_> check the fridge ate the lower right>> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/
[02:12] <Shootfast> Auron0: ok cool, open the terminal and type sudo nautilus
[02:12] <chistoph> Lord_Vader "he"?
[02:12] <Lord_Vader> chistoph, Amaranth said it
[02:12] <Auron0> Shootfast: Ok, then what
[02:12] <apecat> does ubuntu have biarch support in amd64?
[02:12] <Shootfast> then browse to the files and copy them
[02:12] <Agalmatophiliac> can some one helpe me please with enabling my dialup eth1 conenction ?
[02:12] <Amaranth> Lord_Vader, chistoph: That's just a guess
[02:12] <Amaranth> I'd go for 2-3 hours to be safe
[02:12] <thoreauputic> Agalmatophiliac: a dialup connection would be ppp0 not eth0
[02:12] <Shootfast> theyll be in /home/YOURNAME?Desktop
[02:13] <chistoph> *begins hitting refrech over and over* :P
[02:13] <Lord_Vader> Amaranth, yeah I know but a valid one
[02:13] <thoreauputic> Agalmatophiliac: or eth1
[02:13] <hewitt> Hey Dude
[02:13] <jStefan> Amaranth, i'm booting now, thanks
[02:13] <Amaranth> jStefan: awesome
[02:13] <Auron0> Shootfast: I knew that...lets see if i figure this out...brb
[02:13] <Agalmatophiliac> ok once it's set up in networking, is there like an icon or somethign to click to dial ? or do i simply click the enable button ?
[02:13] <hewitt> any public UNIX Server
[02:14] <jStefan> bye all, and thx
[02:14] <kiba> ther is no torrent_
[02:14] <kiba> ?
[02:14] <Lord_Vader> Agalmatophiliac, don't tell me you're still on dial-up internet?
[02:14] <bearwash> out yet?
[02:14] <bearwash> :)
[02:14] <bearwash> can't wait
[02:14] <Agalmatophiliac> where my uncle live, he can not get cable or del, and is stuck with dial up for now
[02:14] <Lord_Vader> k
[02:14] <Nubbie> lord_vader: not everybody lives somewhere with good infrastructure.
[02:14] <Agalmatophiliac> i've NEVER set up a dial up modem, so i'm asking for him
[02:14] <chistoph> #join gentoo
[02:15] <Lord_Vader> Nubbie, those who do, however. should get cable :P
[02:15] <Nubbie> agalmatophiliac: is it a winmodem?
[02:15] <cry0> I'm having a problem with my synaptic... I just recently updated to breezy and I tried updating to dapper, but screwed over my sources.list... what can I do?
[02:15] <Nubbie> lord_vader: you're very uneducated... not everywhere has cable either.
[02:15] <Lord_Vader> Nubbie, did I insult you?
[02:15] <Agalmatophiliac> ubuntu found it and set it up, we just need to know how to "click" to make it dial
[02:15] <cry0> I tried using sources.lists I found on the web, but none of them work.
[02:15] <Nubbie> lord_vader: and by that i didn't mean to insult you, i meant uneducated about the situation <--
[02:15] <Lord_Vader> k
[02:15] <Auron0> Shootfast: I have the firmware placed in /lib/firmware should i put it in the next folder /lib/firmware/2.6...
[02:16] <Nubbie> lord_vader: my bad if i sounded like an ass there.
[02:16] <Lord_Vader> np
[02:16] <cry0> meh, synaptic hates me
[02:16] <Nubbie> agalmatophiliac: it should be in Networking. you're lucky it was detected no problem too.
[02:16] <phr0z3n> yeah, Im not really down with it neither :-/
[02:17] <ramin> guys, i just installed phpnuke on my ubuntu box and I registered., but I did not recieve a vertification email
[02:17] <Agalmatophiliac> Nubbie : so go to networking.....then what ?
[02:17] <Shootfast> Auron0: yeah, i think thatd be right
[02:17] <Nubbie> ramin: so ask the phpnuke people???? i don't understand how anybody here can help you with that.
[02:17] <Auron0> Shootfast: ok, going to do that
[02:17] <Death_Sargent> need help
[02:17] <Shootfast> Auron0: Althought that also means that when you update the kernel, those drivers wont cary accross
[02:18] <Death_Sargent> changes I make to my boot have no effect on boot
[02:18] <Agalmatophiliac> so just highlight it ? and activate it ? and it dials ?
[02:18] <ramin> fine, dont be a bitch about it lol
[02:18] <Death_Sargent> menu.list makes no change
[02:18] <Shootfast> so you might want to keep a copy of those files in your home directoey
[02:18] <Alien_Invader> /leave
[02:18] <Auron0> Shootfast: I can re-add then afterward
[02:18] <Death_Sargent> boot splash  makes no change
[02:18] <kiba> http://www.ubuntunews.info/feisty-release-candidate-delayed
[02:18] <Auron0> Shootfast: Should i restart now
[02:18] <webcrawle> anybody have the time of the 7.04 release?
[02:18] <kiba> shit!!
[02:18] <Nubbie> agalmatophiliac: set up the modem connection, set it as the default route to internet, make sure it's enabled.
[02:18] <Death_Sargent> I shut down and I see changes
[02:18] <Death_Sargent> boot and they are gone
[02:18] <Agalmatophiliac> and it will dial when i do what ??
[02:18] <Lam_> how do i find out what /dev my ipod is connected to?
[02:19] <Nubbie> ramin: thanks.
[02:19] <Death_Sargent> please
[02:19] <PriceChild> kiba, watch the language. That is the Rc. feisty in #ubuntu+1
[02:19] <Death_Sargent> the delay is old news
[02:19] <Death_Sargent> its coming out tomorrow still
[02:19] <Shootfast> Auron0: did you just add the folder or the seperate files
[02:19] <Death_Sargent> seriously though
[02:19] <kiba> tomorrow lol
[02:19] <Auron0> Shootfast: the seperate files
[02:19] <Death_Sargent> I can't effect my boot
[02:20] <Death_Sargent> at all
[02:20] <Shootfast> Auron0: ok cool, restart and i shall see you soon :P
[02:20] <Agalmatophiliac> Nubbie : the question is how to make it dial once everything is set up. or, by enabling it, does that make it dial ? ( i'm lost)
[02:20] <Auron0> Shootfast: hope so lol
[02:20] <Death_Sargent> changes from this side don't do anything
[02:20] <ramin> your welcome
[02:20] <kiba> i need to sleep
[02:20] <Death_Sargent> anyone?
[02:20] <cry0> Hey, anybody know how to put breezy sources.list back to default?  I forgot to back it up...
[02:20] <Flankk> So it will be released within the hour?
[02:20] <Nubbie> agalmatophiliac: just enabling it should make it dial.
[02:20] <PriceChild> kiba, feisty in #ubuntu+1
[02:20] <Agalmatophiliac> so to kill it, makes it disconnect?
[02:20] <Agalmatophiliac> err
[02:20] <PriceChild> whoops
[02:20] <Agalmatophiliac> disabling it
[02:20] <Zorlin> Gday guys
[02:20] <Nubbie> cry0: breezy is not supported any more. you really should upgrade.
[02:20] <Death_Sargent> well I gues tommorw their time
[02:21] <PriceChild> Flankk,  feisty in #ubuntu+1
[02:21] <cry0> I was trying to upgrade... I'm in the process.  Thats how I screwed over my sources.list
[02:21] <Death_Sargent> help?
[02:21] <Death_Sargent> anyone
[02:21] <m4st3r> what time is ubuntu release?
[02:21] <Nubbie> cry0: upgrade with update-manager.
[02:21] <Jordan_U_> Death_Sargent, Did you save the file after editing it?
[02:21] <Death_Sargent> yes
[02:21] <darksoule> OK, so I tried to install kaffeine... it says dependency kaffeine-xine... kaffiene-xine says dependency kaffeine... what do I do?
[02:21] <Death_Sargent> every god damn time
[02:21] <cry0> Tried that, it wont do anything
[02:22] <cry0> Update-manager just says there is nothing to update
[02:22] <cry0> er, actually now it just errors
[02:22] <tbuss> I'm having a problem with apache2, I've set up a username and password for my site but I'm able to access the site if I click Cancel three times in the dialog box, Page also loads w/o css support?
[02:22] <piao> is ubuntu feisty open for update?
[02:22] <Jordan_U_> cry0, It hasn't been released yet
[02:22] <Jordan_U_> piao, No
[02:23] <Death_Sargent> please help
[02:23] <piao> waiting...