[01:46] <skellat> How can somebody put a program on Soundcloud and it be unable to be processed by a bloody podcatcher?  I understand that there is Yet Another Ubuntu Podcast underway at http://ubuntu.audioca.st/ yet I cannot subscribe to it.
[01:48] <skellat> Grumble grumble grumble...I may need to contact somebody in the relevant LoCo and offer assistance perhaps...
[01:49] <skellat> Manual downloads without a generally available announcer other than UWN is not cool
[01:49]  * skellat wanders off to vent his spleen
[02:27] <jrgifford> skellat: putting real podcasts up is difficult.
[02:27] <jrgifford> everything either costs lots of money (hosted solutions) or slightly less money (self-run solutions)
[14:50] <thafreak> canthus13: normally, I wouldn't do a CCNA at this point....
[14:51] <thafreak> but there's potentially a full time faculty position at akron, which requires it
[14:51] <thafreak> since they're part of the cisco academy, they want you to have the cert you're training people to get
[14:52] <thafreak> I figure a bit of studying and a one time test fee would be worth it to be eligible for a gig like that
[14:52] <thafreak> I'm the only part-time person they have with an lpic-2 I think, so I'd probably be a shoe in
[14:53]  * canthus13 nods.
[14:53] <canthus13> thafreak: I ran into that CCNA instructor at home depot last night. :P
[14:53] <thafreak> I normally also wouldn't probably pursue an lpic-3...since it's mostly irrelevant to me
[14:53] <thafreak> haha
[14:54] <thafreak> was he cutting network cable for people?
[14:54] <thafreak> or counting screws
[14:55] <thafreak> also, I don't endorse buying network cable from the depot...or lowes either
[14:55] <thafreak> they sell 250mhz rated cable as cat-6...
[14:55] <thafreak> the cat-5e I usually get is rated at 350mhz...
[14:55] <canthus13> thafreak: He was cutting keys for me.
[14:55] <thafreak> haha
[14:55] <thafreak> did you crack wise?
[14:56] <canthus13> Nope. He's a brilliant guy.. Just old. He's prolly 70-75 now.
[14:57] <thafreak> oh holy cow
[14:57] <thafreak> surprised he's not a walmart greeter
[14:58] <thafreak> well, I guess the more technically advanced would rather work at the depot
[15:04] <canthus13> Heh.
[19:42] <thafreak> wow, 3tb drives are coming down in price finally...
[19:42] <thafreak> probably cause of the latest 4tb drives out now
[19:42] <thafreak> a 3tb WD Red drive is only $140
[19:42] <thafreak> I think I paid like $119 for my 2tb red drives just a month or so ago
[19:57] <thafreak> wow...newegg has one of those dualcore android "stick" pc's for $60...
[19:58] <thafreak> if you haven't seen one, they resemble a usb "stick"...only instead of a usb-A male end, it's an hdmi male end
[21:04] <Unit193> skellat: Tried Keryx?
[21:37] <skellat> Unit193: What is it and what is it for?
[21:38] <skellat> The fast search in Yahoo brought up a pharmaceutical firm
[21:39] <Unit193> skellat: It is a program for linux, and it has to do with offline updates.  https://launchpad.net/keryx
[21:39] <Unit193> Their site doesn't appear to be online right now.
[21:40] <skellat> Nope
[21:40] <skellat> It looks like an abandoned project needing forking perhaps
[21:41] <skellat> apt-offline is at least under active development within Debian
[21:42] <skellat> And apt itself has gone in new directions since 2011 with the architecture field being added into play which wasn't around when Keryx last punched a release out
[21:43] <skellat> And looking at their code, it is hard-coded by release which means it sees the world stopping with Karmic Koala
[21:43] <Unit193> I wasn't sure if you'd used it before, but while it is outdated, looks interesting.
[21:44] <skellat> Yeah, never used it.  Only apt-offline and did a hideous hack beforehand
[21:44] <Unit193> apt-offline would still be good, more so since synaptic has been removed from everything.  Synaptic has actually been updated for GTK3, so may be useful yet.
[21:46] <skellat> Is synaptic still being updated upstream?  I've held everybody in the family to Precise Pangolin so we all still have it and it is enforced in erielooking-settings if memory serves.
[21:48] <Unit193> Synaptic is in quantal, but I'm thinking the updated code is only in launchpad.
[21:49] <skellat> Well...if we really, really want to go light-weight...we should bring back aptitude...
[21:49] <paultag> Canonical doesn't care
[21:49] <paultag> they have the software store
[21:49] <paultag> granted it's nongnu
[21:50] <paultag> but some canonical'er maintained it iirc
[21:50] <paultag> and it was pretty much EOL'd in 2009
[21:50] <skellat> That's Ubuntu, we're thinking of Xubuntu
[21:50] <Unit193> I like the apt-get/apt-cache commands, but if I had to use a GUI it'd be synaptic.
[21:50] <paultag> ah yeah, mvo
[21:50] <paultag> I made a post saying it was going away and people tried to tell me I was wrong
[21:50] <paultag> I wasn't
[21:51] <Unit193> Ubuntu Software Center is default in Xubuntu as well, though.
[21:51] <skellat> True
[21:51] <Unit193> Not on mine! :D
[21:52] <skellat> I got it but haven't removed it yet...just haven't felt up to it
[21:52] <paultag> I just had to purge it
[21:52] <paultag> for some reason my mom couldn't use it to install something
[21:52] <Unit193> Purged it a long time ago.
[21:52] <paultag> and it was trying to sell her something
[21:52] <paultag> and I got really pissed off and ditched it, fast.
[21:52] <Unit193> Anyway, https://code.launchpad.net/~synaptic-developers/
[21:53] <paultag> yeah, that's just mvo, Unit193
[21:53] <paultag> who's now Canonical, iirc
[21:53] <paultag> which I don't :(
[21:53] <Unit193> paultag: Better than nothing, best GUI there is.
[21:53] <paultag> Unit193: the software store?
[21:53] <Unit193> I linked to Synaptic.
[21:54] <paultag> I'm saying
[21:54] <paultag> he's not actively working on it iirc
[21:54] <Unit193> last commit was 2013-01-04
[21:54] <Unit193> evfool did that one.
[21:55] <paultag> Unit193: but look at the history
[21:55] <paultag> it's sparse
[21:55] <Unit193> A little, yes.
[21:56] <Unit193> Only recent update was pretty much for GTK3.
[21:56] <skellat> And with 4 branches pending for merge
[21:56] <paultag> aye
[21:57] <Unit193> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~synaptic-developers/synaptic/trunk/view/head:/debian/changelog  0.75.12 in quantal, so I still think it's better than USC, but that's more design than commit history.
[21:58] <Unit193> My point is, it's not quite dead, just very slow.
[21:59] <skellat> Oh the things to be liberated if only there were the resources to back such up
[22:00] <paultag> aye
[22:03] <skellat> Unit193: So I understand you to say that the updated synaptic is in raring?
[22:03] <Unit193> Grrrr, you're there too.
[22:03] <Unit193> skellat: Yes.
[22:03]  * Unit193 was going to slip out of here.
[22:04] <skellat> Oh the joys of having a working IRC bouncer
[22:04] <Unit193> Yeah, now you're watching me. :P
[22:05] <skellat> :-)
[22:07]  * skellat wanders off to get some tea as he's dealing with the flu


[11:42] <R13ose> How do I remove the remove the bottom panel?  Right now, there is no way to add/remove panel.
[11:49] <leszek> you don't :P
[11:50] <R13ose> I have added Cairo Dock so I don't need the bottom panel anymore.
[18:46] <rrp> Hi. I have a question. In ubuntu website's flavour page (https://www.ubuntu.com/download/flavours), it said that, LXQT is Lubuntu's default DE. But in Lubuntu's website (https://lubuntu.me/about/) it is said that, Lubuntu's default DE is LXDE. I'm confused.
[18:47] <wxl> rrp: we're in transition. for this cycle onward, it's LXQt. previous was LXDE.
[18:47] <wxl> if you want to get really goofy, LXQt arose from the framework of LXDE and so they're kind of both LXDE XD
[18:47] <rrp> What's the DE in 18.04?
[18:47] <wxl> if DE means desktop environment and is not an indication of the graphics libraries it uses (which it's not)
[18:47] <wxl> LXDE
[18:47] <wxl> but 18.10 and on will be LXQt
[19:13] <cristian__c> hi
[19:14] <cristian__c> I've installed dropbox but applet doesn't show dropbox icon and  it's not working
[19:15] <cristian__c> I've created a new autostart entry changing dropbox launch command
[19:15] <cristian__c> unfortunately, dropbox default autostart is often enabled by the system, even if I disable it by lxsession
[19:16] <cristian__c> I've tried some workarounds but I don't know how to delete default dropbox autostart entry (in order to use custom new dropbox launch autostart)
[19:16] <cristian__c> any ideas?
[19:41] <Guest21212> hi... i am trying to install lubuntu 18.04 64bit on my newer computer from usb (it has no cd drive) but i keep getting the error about it not being able to install grub due to UEFI
[19:42] <Guest21212> i did set it in bios to legacy instead of UEFI but i still get this error
[19:44] <Guest21212> it doesnt matter if i choose install or try lubuntu (and install from there) in the boot menu
[19:44] <Guest21212> i also put the iso on usb via dd and via unetbootin.. no difference there either
[19:49] <cristian__c> Guest21212: I don't what computter you're talking about
[19:51] <cristian__c> *don't know what computer
[19:53] <diogenes_> Guest21212, what partitioning you have chosen?
[19:54] <Guest21212> a gigabyte Z270M-D3H with an intel i5-7600K
[19:55] <Guest21212> ehm dunno about the partitioning.. there is allready win7 on it and i had lubuntu 16.04.4 on it
[19:55] <Guest21212> (32bit tho)
[19:55] <Guest21212> can i see in gparted?
[19:56] <Guest21212> the partition for lubuntu is on an extended partion
[19:56] <diogenes_> Guest21212, have you got 2 HDDs?
[19:57] <Guest21212> nope
[19:57] <Guest21212> eh wait
[19:57] <Guest21212> yes i have another one in there
[19:57] <Guest21212> but no OS on it.. only data
[19:58] <diogenes_> yep, that could be the issue, try to pick the "something else" and install linux only on one of the drives
[19:58] <diogenes_> not using both
[19:58] <Guest21212> i did that
[19:58] <diogenes_> then you need to somehow unplug one of them, maybe disable it in bios
[19:59] <Guest21212> trying to install linux on the drive with win7
[19:59] <Guest21212> so i gotta disable the data drive?
[19:59] <diogenes_> and also don't forget to add additional partition: /boot/efi 300 MB
[20:00] <Guest21212> i did in "something else"  pick the extended partition and set its mount point to /
[20:00] <Guest21212> ah
[20:00] <Guest21212> so there got to be a little partion extra with swap to have it boot?
[20:00] <diogenes_> but wait
[20:01] <diogenes_> you've got win 7 right?
[20:01] <Guest21212> uefi is new for me
[20:01] <Guest21212> yes
[20:01] <diogenes_> does win 7 boot when uefi if off?
[20:01] <Guest21212> it has some boot partition i guess.. 500mn
[20:01] <Guest21212> *mb
[20:02] <Guest21212> grub is gone now so i cant boot
[20:02] <Guest21212> this is the live-usb
[20:02] <diogenes_> ok when you was booting windows previously, was uefi on?\
[20:03] <Guest21212> in bios it was on yes.. and it did work with lubu 16.04.4 32bit
[20:04] <Guest21212> i think something is wrong with this 18.04 installer
[20:04] <diogenes_> Guest21212, burn the iso with rosaimagewriter and try again
[20:05] <diogenes_> also turn on uefi and add the partition that i mentioned
[20:05] <diogenes_> and unplug one of the drives
[20:06] <Guest21212> ok.. odd... never heard of rosa.. will try
[20:06] <Guest21212> gotta get off here when i put the new image on this usb
[20:07] <wxl> Guest21212: UEFI has just worked for me for quite a while now. If you've ensured you didn't have download/copy errors, it should just work for you
[20:08] <Guest21212> you allready installed a fresh 18.04?
[20:08] <wxl> yup
[20:08] <Guest21212> i doubt its the image tho
[20:09] <wxl> it most often is
[20:09] <Guest21212> as everything else works.. just that grub package not
[20:09] <wxl> did you check the hashes?
[20:09] <Guest21212> i trythat firstthen
[20:10] <wxl> that's ALWAYS what you should do
[20:10] <wxl> download/copy errors are ridiculously common
[20:10] <wxl> one bit could mean totally disastrous behavior
[20:12] <Guest21212> the torrent was ferified ok
[20:12] <Guest21212> now for the hash
[20:12] <wxl> still could mean copy errors
[20:19] <Guest21212> md5sum is thesame
[20:19] <wxl> now boot the image and check the image at the boot menu
[20:19] <Guest21212> the one i use
[20:20] <wxl> ?
[20:20] <Guest21212> ah you mean test it in the boot menu? if it got okay on the usb?
[20:21] <wxl> yep
[20:21] <Guest21212> ok.. taking notes here first before i leave off
[20:25] <Guest21212> thanx for the help wxl, diogenes_ and cristian_c ... hope i get it fixed now
[20:25] <Guest21212> ah damn just missed him
[20:26] <Guest21212> (diogenes)
[21:31] <Newky> i was in here an hour ago with uefi and grub install issue.. turns out the usb got booted with UEFI and needed to boot it explicitly without UEFI for it not to clash when installing it
[21:32] <Newky> i mean booting the usb with no uefi... but uefi is activated in bios
[21:32] <Newky> strange affair :P
[21:33] <Newky> thanx again for the heads up.. time to get a drink and hang out now


[19:42] <bkerensa> chrisccoulson: ;/
[20:15] <chrisccoulson> whassup bkerensa
[20:15] <bkerensa> chrisccoulson: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/05/chromium-to-replace-firefox-as-default-browser-in-ubuntu
[20:15] <bkerensa> :((
[20:17] <Unit193> ( Or http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTM3Mzk )  Bit of a bummer, but as long as Firefox gets updated in release, and I'd prefer Xubuntu to stay with it, I'm good.  On the other side, Lubuntu may switch TO firefox.
[20:19] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i'll certainly be a bit sad about it, but life goes on ;)
[20:19] <chrisccoulson> i'm surprised it hasn't happened before really


[00:55] <mymrhelpdesk> hi all
[00:55] <mymrhelpdesk> i just setup an ubuntu ltsp server anyone had any experience with one?
[01:06] <JohnB112> I have a little experience, but not much. What's your question?
[01:13] <mymrhelpdesk> i just setup a server ubuntu 10.10 ltsp preload i get an error on client when booting
[01:13] <mymrhelpdesk> cannot connect to nbd server
[01:14] <mymrhelpdesk> client pull's an ip and starts with ubuntu splash screen then i get that message
[01:15] <JohnB112> The "out of the box" LTSP server for Ubuntu is preconfigured for x86 processor clients. Is that the processor on your PXE clients?
[01:15] <JohnB112> We have AMD processors on our clients. Had to configure the LTSP config file for AMD, not 386.
[01:15] <mymrhelpdesk> yeah, i'm using a intel core 2 desktop pc
[01:16] <mymrhelpdesk> might be the problem maby since is dual core?
[01:16] <JohnB112> Some of the posts suggest "ltsp-update-image --arch i386" to solve the "cannot connect to nbd server" error
[01:17] <JohnB112> This link helped us get our LTSP server up and running: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1473451
[01:18] <JohnB112> I also found that certain Dell computers simply would not work as clients, while others would. Both had Pentium 4 processors. Have you tried another client?
[01:19] <JohnB112> Yes, I would think it could be possible.
[01:20] <JohnB112> There is a procedure for using "chroot" to update the client images and then rebuild them on the server. Are you familiar with that?
[01:20] <mymrhelpdesk> no
[01:20] <mymrhelpdesk> would love information
[01:21] <mymrhelpdesk> i just tried a dell laptop an inspirion 1100 same message
[01:21] <mymrhelpdesk> unable to connect to nbd server
[01:22] <JohnB112> There's actually a YouTube video someone did on chroot. Very short, but very, very helpful. I actually followed along on Ubuntu while I watched the video... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bARxhOn3mKo
[01:23] <mymrhelpdesk> ok thanks
[01:23] <JohnB112> Have you read this post: http://www.rickogden.com/2010/06/ltsp-part-2-configuration/
[01:23] <JohnB112> Good luck!
[01:28] <mymrhelpdesk> power failure i'm back
[12:15]  * daker is away: Occupé
[16:01] <highvoltage> mhall119: you responded to me directly (as apposed to the list), not sure if that was intentional
[16:03] <mhall119>  it was, I thought evolution handled list replying correctly
[16:03] <mhall119> it was unintentional
[16:03] <mhall119> re-sent to the list
[16:10] <highvoltage> you left the "Fwd:" in the subject line and top-posted
[16:11]  * highvoltage wonders how mhall119 responds to persistant poking
[16:11]  * mhall119 bites


[02:38] <bazhang> on himself
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> the newest !winusb trigger in #ubuntu has a failing link towards the winusb page
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> just reporting this
[14:23] <Pici> having some weird connectivity problems with ubottu.com
[14:23] <genii> Anyone investigating?
[14:24] <Pici> me?
[14:31] <Pici> Looks like it resolved itself right as I was putting a ticket in.
[14:33] <Pici> http://status.linode.com/incidents/6b2tw2mwk2cj <- DoS attack on the datacenter ubottu lives in
[14:33] <genii> I'm wondering if it's a coincidence that willcooke leaves, ubottu disconnects, willcooke reconnects, ubotto returns
[14:34] <genii> Hm
[14:39] <Pici> Oddly enough, the Linode I'm on right now is also in the Newark datacenter, and it didn't have any problems.
[14:45] <phunyguy> Linode </3
[14:45] <Pici> bazhang: btw, I saw ESR speak yesterday, he said he still uses Ubuntu
[16:46] <popey> haha, willcooke leaving and arriving is a function of terrible wifi in the canonical office
[17:35] <phunyguy> [06:51:27] <-- popey (~alan@ubuntu/member/popey) has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
[17:35] <phunyguy> :P


[03:36] <epigfanio> Hello
[03:39] <epigfanio> i'm struggling with tring to build a pytohn package ... it fails to find a dependency .. but I built a package for it and I have listed in the control file
[03:39] <epigfanio> the package is 'python3-entrypoint'
[03:39] <epigfanio> my PPA is:  https://launchpad.net/~epiesasha/+archive/ubuntu/jupyter/+packages
[03:40] <epigfanio> it fails with:  Missing build dependencies: python3-argparse
[03:42] <epigfanio> but I do have it in my control file
[03:53] <epigfanio> i was wndering if it is a fault from my side or I need to wait a build from the ppa server ...
[03:53] <epigfanio> I got confused by he liog
[03:59] <epigfanio> this th e log https://launchpad.net/~epiesasha/+archive/ubuntu/jupyter/+build/12624488
[07:44] <geser> epigfanio: isn't argparse part of python3? therefore there is no extra package and build-depending on python3 is enough
[17:22] <epigfanio> geser: thanks for theadvice, I saw argparse in the pypi repository so I thought it was external dependency
[17:23] <epigfanio> I removed it from the debian rules, butthe build failed again .. this time I'm having hardtome understanding the log error . it seems a test that failed
[17:24] <epigfanio> this is the last build log https://launchpad.net/~epiesasha/+archive/ubuntu/jupyter/+build/12626772
[23:51] <epigfanio> guys, what to do when trying to package a python librarty ... the test fail? I think in my case is a py3.5 vs py3.6 syntax error issue .. but not sure:  https://launchpad.net/~epiesasha/+archive/ubuntu/jupyter/+build/12628117