[00:00] <gabenc> de donde jazumaru
[00:00] <gabenc> eres??
[00:01] <jazumaru> monterrey nl mexico
[00:02] <jazumaru> y tu ??
[00:03] <gabenc> ecuador
[00:03] <jazumaru> te gusta la programacion
[00:03] <jazumaru> o el diseño de paginas
[00:03] <jazumaru> ??
[00:03] <jazumaru> web
[00:03] <ForgeAus> cant seem to dist-upgrade feisty
[00:03] <ForgeAus> or maybe I just need to set up a root password?
[00:04] <ForgeAus> jazu, English only here
[00:04] <jazumaru> oh sorry
[00:04] <ForgeAus> its ok, um I think there's other channels for other languages
[00:04] <ForgeAus> like #kubuntu-es for spanish? etc...
[00:05] <jazumaru> tanks
[00:05] <ForgeAus> no problem...
[00:05] <word> !es
[00:06] <ForgeAus> uh? you mean I was right about the spanish thing? I was just using that as an example
[00:07] <word> ForgeAus: yah :-/ i recognize all of it except for diseño from my spanish class ;p
[00:07] <ForgeAus> hehe IC
[00:07] <ForgeAus> I had no idea what language it was rofl :)...
[00:07] <ForgeAus> anyway, as for my dist-upgrade problem, either A) how do I fix apt-get to do it? or B) how do I assign a root password?
[00:08] <word> ForgeAus: well they asked eachother where they lived in spanish and replied mexico and ecuador so ;p
[00:08] <ForgeAus> lol word :) kewl...
[00:08] <word> ForgeAus: why can't you dist-upgrade?
[00:08] <ForgeAus> I don't know
[00:09] <word> ForgeAus: what does it say when you try?
[00:09] <ForgeAus> its wierd sudo apt-get dist-upgrade just does nothing, I mean it runs through a check of the packages, but doesn't do the actual dist-upgrading
[00:09] <word> ForgeAus: because you need to change the repos
[00:09] <word> ForgeAus: but that's the 'old school' way, you can use an upgrade manager gui for it now
[00:09] <ForgeAus> and when I use adept, it works until it downloads the dist upgraade tool...
[00:09] <ForgeAus> oh
[00:09] <ForgeAus> repos... ok
[00:09] <ForgeAus> um thats all diff now
[00:10] <word> ForgeAus: let me find you a wiki article ;p
[00:10] <ForgeAus> yeah I know but I'm not root and the gui tool doesn't work complains about not being able to connect to the X server
[00:10] <ForgeAus> (because I'm not root)
[00:10] <ForgeAus> even if I run ADEPT itself with kdesu
[00:10] <ForgeAus> the tool adept runs doesn't run as su...
[00:11] <krazy-h> Does anybody who can help me? i have a problem with nmap on ubuntu i can't have access to c$ please help me
[00:11] <ForgeAus> erm I mean it does run as su just that its a different program, grrr digging myself deeper into a hole trying to explain this!
[00:12] <ForgeAus> the Dist upgrade tool, doesn't maintain a connection to the X server when trying to run as a su...
[00:12] <word> ForgeAus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades/Kubuntu
[00:12] <word> ForgeAus: try running it with sudo :-/
[00:13] <word> do you not have root privledges on your box?
[00:13] <ForgeAus> how? is there a way to run the tool itself separately?
[00:13] <ForgeAus> Adept was doing it all for me
[00:13] <word> ForgeAus: no try running adept as sudo
[00:13] <ForgeAus> thats kdesu not sudo
[00:13] <word> ForgeAus: i know, try sudo ;p
[00:13] <ForgeAus> anyway, even with kdesu it works for Adept itself, but the tool is a different program
[00:13] <ForgeAus> definitely doesn't work runing adept as sudo
[00:14] <word> and the tool is run from adept :-/
[00:14] <ForgeAus> I installed using the LiveCD the password you give is just for the user, not for root
[00:14] <ForgeAus> (I don't think it gives root a password)
[00:15] <ForgeAus> you can use sudo (so you do have some kinda root privileges that way)
[00:15] <word> ForgeAus: Umm...you give a root password, and if you don't, it's your password
[00:15] <ForgeAus> tried that, didn't work
[00:15] <word> ForgeAus: tried doing what?
[00:15] <ForgeAus> tried using root and the userpassword
[00:15] <ForgeAus> tried root and blank also
[00:15] <ForgeAus> doesn't work
[00:16] <ForgeAus> the userpass only works when you try to sudo or kdesu
[00:17] <word> ForgeAus: if you use the command 'sudo su' and enter your password..you are root..
[00:17] <ForgeAus> yes that worked
[00:17] <ForgeAus> uh but can't run adept from there
[00:17] <word> ForgeAus: using sudo, and kdesudo, you are root...that shouldn't be the problem with adept
[00:17] <ForgeAus> adept_manager: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[00:17] <word> i know, because it can't connect :P
[00:18] <word> you need to run kdesudo adept_manager
[00:18] <word> the rest of the problems have nothing to do with root access
[00:18] <ForgeAus> yeah and still after that when it runs the dist tool will that work?
[00:18] <word> ForgeAus: should, if not, it should output an error, which we can deal with
[00:18] <ForgeAus> even with kdesu it didn't work
[00:19] <word> ForgeAus: just do it ;p
[00:19] <ForgeAus> root@milliken:/home/spike# kdesu adept_manager
[00:19] <ForgeAus> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[00:19] <ForgeAus> Xlib: No protocol specified
[00:19] <ForgeAus> kdesu: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[00:19] <ForgeAus> just do what?
[00:21] <word> ForgeAus: run it as a normal user
[00:21] <word> type exit
[00:21] <word> then run the same command
[00:21] <ForgeAus> ok
[00:21] <ForgeAus> been there done that
[00:21] <ForgeAus> like I said adept works but the dist upgrade tool doesn't
[00:21] <ForgeAus> brb doing it again
[00:21] <word> if it doesn't work, it has absolutely, 100% sure, NOTHING to do with root
[00:22] <ForgeAus> fetching updates
[00:22] <ForgeAus> ok now upgrade version button should show
[00:23] <word> ...does it?
[00:23] <ForgeAus> uh didn't this time, usually does tho
[00:23] <ForgeAus> not sure why
[00:24] <word> ForgeAus: maybe it thinks you upgraded... try restarting :-/
[00:24] <ForgeAus> hmmm ok I will but I don't think that will help
[00:24] <ForgeAus> brb after restart
[00:28] <ForgeAus> back
[00:28] <ForgeAus> rerunning adept
[00:28] <word> ForgeAus: so?
[00:29] <ForgeAus> I'll let you know when its ready
[00:29] <ForgeAus> ahh version upgrade showed up :) yay
[00:29] <ForgeAus> ok running the wizard
[00:29] <ForgeAus> gets some of the way
[00:30] <ForgeAus> downloads upgrade tool
[00:30] <ForgeAus> tells me to click finish to close adept
[00:30] <ForgeAus> gmmm so now it works! lol
[00:30] <ForgeAus> tried that about 8 times before never got this far...
[00:31] <word> woo....
[00:31] <ForgeAus> that was what I was hoping would happen
[00:31] <ForgeAus> gotta get rid of the stylus and another device or two from xorg.conf
[00:32] <word> ForgeAus: don't mess with it until the upgrade finishes :P
[00:32] <mefisto__> is this a gutsy to hardy upgrade?
[00:32] <ForgeAus> they keep complaing about bad  (invalid) or uninitialized device
[00:32] <ForgeAus> hehe I won't
[00:32] <ForgeAus> no feisty to gutsy? I think
[00:32] <ForgeAus> will do gutsy to hardy after that
[00:33] <word> o.O i'd hope it goes straight to hardy...
[00:33] <ForgeAus> nah I think if I remember right you can't do that
[00:33] <ForgeAus> gotta go one step at a time
[00:33] <word> meh
[00:33] <ForgeAus> (back when I had edgy and feisty was new ppl had dapper and had to go to edgy before they could get feisty...
[00:33] <ForgeAus> nless its changed now or something
[00:34] <mefisto__> might have been easier and quicker to do a new hardy install
[00:34] <ForgeAus> 7.10 is gutsy right?
[00:34] <word> yah
[00:34] <ForgeAus> I kinda like feisty alot... kinda sad to see it go :)
[00:35] <ForgeAus> can still do kde4 in gutsy anyway but hardy is better...
[00:35] <tsuna27> hi
[00:35] <word> brb, restarting kdm...
[00:35] <ForgeAus> 850 packages, thats quite a few
[00:36] <ForgeAus> I hope it doesn't reset the menu.lst file :(
[00:36] <tsuna27> i am using kubuntu KDE 4.1
[00:36] <tsuna27> and on start up Kopete and Kate keep coming up
[00:36] <tsuna27> how do I stop them from opening
[00:37] <ForgeAus> hehe to me 4.1 is kde4 atm, I havn't got past kde3.5.9 or so yet...
[00:37] <ForgeAus> looking forward to it tho :)
[00:37] <birnisson> hi, how do I install vpn viewer?
[00:37] <ForgeAus> only can't dual kde anymore with 4.1 I think it overwrites kde settings, instead of separate kde4 ones...
[00:38] <tsuna27> so what do I do?
[00:38] <ForgeAus> goina miss 3.5.9 majorly
[00:38] <ForgeAus> !info vpn
[00:38] <ForgeAus> hmmm
[00:38] <mefisto__> ForgeAus: I don't think so. I have kde 4.1 and the settings seem to still be separate
[00:38] <ForgeAus> info vpn-viewer
[00:39] <tsuna27> ?
[00:39] <tsuna27> what do I do
[00:39] <ForgeAus> mefisto, kewl, someone gave me some bad info then... sorry...
[00:39] <mefisto__> ForgeAus: it might be true. I don't log in to kde4 very often
[00:40] <word> mefisto__: what about kde4?
[00:40] <ForgeAus> mefisto it might be a different build for a specific distro or it might have been about a not-yet released version?
[00:41] <tsuna27> ?
[00:41] <mefisto__> word:  <ForgeAus> only can't dual kde anymore with 4.1 I think it overwrites kde settings, instead of separate kde4 ones
[00:42] <word> umm...dont think so
[00:42] <ForgeAus> I also heard KDE4.1 sits way better on SUSE than it does *buntu :(
[00:42] <ForgeAus> hmm I wonder what that means for debian? lol
[00:43] <ForgeAus> is 4.1 slated for intrepid?
[00:44] <tsuna27> and on start up Kopete and Kate keep coming up how do I stop them from opening
[00:45] <ForgeAus> tsuana, uh they must be in ur startup somewhere... I'm not all that confident with how to  deal with startups in *nix...
[00:46] <tsuna27> k
[00:46] <tsuna27> also how do i install flash
[00:46] <emilton> hi
[00:46] <ForgeAus> from adept theres adobe plugin
[00:46] <tsuna27> k
[00:46] <ForgeAus> I think theres about 3 or 4 of them actually
[00:47] <ForgeAus> you might need a repo enabled tho (like universe or something)
[00:48] <mefisto__> ForgeAus: if you look at the 2nd entry under "Latest News" at http://www.kubuntu.org/ it says intrepid will use .kde instead of .kde4, so that might be the source of confusion. 4.1 still keeps separate settings, but the intrepid beta doesn't
[00:48] <ForgeAus> whats the kde in intrepid? is it also kde4.1 or something else?
[00:49] <ForgeAus> mefisto I think thats where it (the confusion as u put it) would have come from yes...
[00:51] <word> intrepid will probably use kde4, there isn't a specific version for it though...
[00:51] <word> and i really don't think kde4.1 works better on suse than kubuntu :-/ it's working fine for me
[00:52] <ForgeAus> kewl thats a releif
[00:53] <mefisto__> but maybe it's even better on suse? :P
[00:54] <BluesKaj> nope, open suse was ok til the panel kept disappearing ...
[00:56] <BluesKaj> I don't see any advantages in kde4 for me , none at all :(
[00:58] <mefisto__> BluesKaj: some of the apps have nifty ui improvements, not always obvious. gwenview ui is much improved but a little featureless compared to the kde3 version, and dolphin is much better in kde4.
[01:01] <mr_clark> Hi guys. trying to do some updates to KDE 4.1 but there's also an update to python-central which keeps failing. Any fix for this?
[01:02] <mefisto__> mr_clark: failing how? not downloading?
[01:03] <mr_clark> I'm trying to figure it out. I think it's failing to download. I'm going to try a different repository and give it another try.
[01:07] <mr_clark> Okay. I think I fixed it.
[01:08] <tsuna27> Can I get help downloading Flash
[01:09] <mefisto__> tsuna27: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[01:11] <tsuna27> thats all
[01:12] <mefisto__> tsuna27: you need to enable "multiverse" if it's not already enabled
[01:12] <tsuna27> how do I do that
[01:13] <tsuna27> ?
[01:15] <mefisto__> start adept manager, and go to manage repositories (in the settings menu I think), then tick the multiverse box. it should do an update after that. quit adept before doing sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree, or just search for the flash plugin in adept and install it
[01:16] <tsuna27> it says my data base is locked when i try 2 open that
[01:17] <mefisto__> is apt-get running? or do you have adept already open?
[01:18] <tsuna27> how do i open adept manager
[01:19] <mefisto__> should be in kmenu, in the system submenu
[01:19] <Glinux> french!
[01:19] <ikichi> help in french please
[01:19] <tsuna27> Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude).
[01:19] <tsuna27> Would you like to attempt to resolve this problem? No will enter read-only mode and Cancel to quit and resolve this issue yourself.
[01:20] <tsuna27> what do i do?
[01:21] <mefisto__> !aptfix
[01:21] <tsuna27> okay what does !aptfix mean
[01:21] <tsuna27> what does ! mean
[01:22] <mefisto__> tsuna27: you can choose to quit adept and then run that command ^^ in konsole
[01:23] <mefisto__> the ! tells the bot (ubottu) to print messages in this channel
[01:23] <tsuna27> okay i did it
[01:23] <tsuna27> the  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:23] <tsuna27> now what
[01:24] <BluesKaj> mefisto__, i don't use dolphin
[01:24] <ikichi> can i install two linux distributions in my computer?
[01:24] <mefisto__> yep, that's the one. but quit adept first
[01:25] <mefisto__> tsuna27: what are you up to now? do you have multiverse enabled?
[01:25] <tsuna27> no
[01:26] <ikichi>  can i install two linux distributions on my computer?
[01:26] <tsuna27> yes
[01:26] <tsuna27> how do i tick multiverse enabled
[01:26] <BluesKaj> ikichi, yes you can , but why ?
[01:28] <mefisto__> tsuna27: in adept, manage repositories, in the first tab, it's the second-last box
[01:28] <tsuna27> okay theres an X
[01:28] <ikichi> i can't install kubuntu hardy heron on my computer and i am in live
[01:28] <tsuna27> so then what
[01:29] <ikichi> i would install madriva and then kubuntu hardy heron
[01:29] <mefisto__> tsuna27: click the close button and close adept. then in konsole, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[01:30] <noobie_to_linux> i was woundering if someone can help me out with k9copy?
[01:31] <tsuna27> okay now i see package congiguration page
[01:31] <tsuna27> and i cant press <ok>
[01:31] <dwidmann> ikichi: you could have 200 if you wanted to ...
[01:32] <mefisto__> tsuna27: try the tab key on keyboard
[01:32] <noobie_to_linux> when i put a dvd in and start k9copy it just doesn't want to work, i don't know if i did install it right or what but it will freez up when i put a dvd in & start up k9copy.  what should i do to make sure that it does work?
[01:32] <tsuna27> sweet
[01:33] <kubuntu_linux> so can anyone help me out?
[01:33] <tsuna27> so am I done
[01:34] <mefisto__> tsuna27: see if flash content is displayed
[01:34] <kubuntu_linux> why wont anyone help me out?
[01:34] <tsuna27> how
[01:34] <kubuntu_linux> i need help with K9Copy
[01:35] <dwidmann> kubuntu_linux: maybe nobody who's here at the moment knows?
[01:35] <mefisto__> tsuna27: do you have firefox installed? go to youtube and try it
[01:35] <kubuntu_linux> every time i put in a dvd and start K9Copy it always freezes up on me & i don't know why
[01:35] <tsuna27> k
[01:35] <BluesKaj> kubuntu_linux, do you have the right apps installed like kubuntu-restricted-extras and libdvdcss2 ?
[01:35] <tsuna27> youtube is not working
[01:36] <dwidmann> kubuntu_linux: start k9copy from a terminal, look for error messages
[01:36] <kubuntu_linux> i think so
[01:36] <BluesKaj> tsuna27, install flashplugin-nonfree
[01:36] <kubuntu_linux> ok i'll give it a shot
[01:36] <kubuntu_linux> thnkx dwidmann
[01:36] <tsuna27> how do i install flashplugin-nonfree
[01:37] <dwidmann> tsuna27: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[01:37] <BluesKaj> kubuntu_linux, open adept and type the app name in the search to see if they are installed
[01:37] <kubuntu_linux> this is what came up when i did run k9copy from the termnial
[01:37] <kubuntu_linux> HAL init failed
[01:37] <kubuntu_linux> QComboBox::setCurrentItem: (cbInputDev) Index 0 out of range
[01:37] <BluesKaj> tsuna27, use adept
[01:38] <kubuntu_linux> i know i have it installed cuz it did come up when i did type k0copy in the termnial
[01:38] <BluesKaj> kubuntu_linux, tsuna27 , Open adept package manager, On the menu of that screen click on Adept -> Manage Repositories. Click the kubuntu software tab. Check all the boxes "X". The same goes for the third party software tab. Close, then in the terminal do "sudo apt-get update" .Now you have more sources for applications other than the defaults that came with Kubuntu.
[01:39] <kubuntu_linux> k
[01:41] <kubuntu_linux> what is input device cuz there is nothing in there
[01:41] <BluesKaj> in where?
[01:41] <kubuntu_linux> k9copy
[01:41] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu | kubuntu_linux, tsuna27
[01:42] <kubuntu_linux> i type k9copy in the termnial and it did come up but then nothing was in the input devices
[01:42] <kubuntu_linux> i did put the dvd in and still nothing
[01:45] <BluesKaj> kubuntu_linux, if it's a commercially released dvd it won't copy unless you bypaass the DRM by having libdvdcss2 installed.
[01:47] <kubuntu_linux> oh ok
[01:48] <kubuntu_linux> where can i find libdvdcss2
[01:48] <kubuntu_linux> ?
[01:48] <ubuntu> Hi all, i need some quick help if possible, im installing kubuntu on a raid array everything is going good except im at the point where im installing ubuntu-minimal and the cupsys pacakge constantly fails so i can't progress the install is there a way to omit or force the package through?
[01:49] <kubuntu_linux> n/m i think i found where i can get libdvdcss2
[01:50] <BluesKaj> kubuntu_linux, read above about medibuntu
[01:51] <ubuntu> i can't remove it or install it...
[01:51] <mysteldark> chaeeeeeeeeeeeee
[01:52] <mysteldark> ae
[01:52] <mysteldark> a
[01:52] <mysteldark> ed
[01:52] <mysteldark> ae
[01:52] <mysteldark> d
[01:52] <mysteldark> aed
[01:53] <Jucato> mysteldark: is there a point to this?
[01:54] <kubuntu_linux> i really do think that i'm installing libdvdcss2 and if i did it rite then i should be able to run k9copy with no problems am i rite ppl???
[01:55] <Jucato> !libdvdcss2
[01:55] <kubuntu_linux> yes libdvdcss2
[01:57] <smarty> anyone know any good C++ compilers?
[01:57] <smarty> (meant for linux)
[01:57] <kubuntu_linux> how do i find out what my input device is for my cd/dvd rom drive?
[01:57] <kubuntu_linux> for k9copy
[01:57] <Jucato> smarty: gcc (g++)
[01:57] <smarty> k ty
[01:57] <ubuntu> ???
[01:58] <kubuntu_linux> ???
[01:59] <mefisto__> kubuntu_linux: /dev/scd0 should work if your dvd drive is the 1st drive
[01:59] <kubuntu_linux> thnx mefisto i'll give it a shot
[02:00] <mysteldark> spanish
[02:00] <kubuntu_linux> nope didn't work
[02:00] <mysteldark> xD+
[02:00] <kubuntu_linux> srry
[02:00] <Pici> !es | mysteldark
[02:01] <mysteldark> esto del beryl compiz fusion ta bueno xD
[02:01] <mysteldark> jejej
[02:01] <mysteldark> olas
[02:01] <mysteldark> ta bueno esto del beryl
[02:02] <mysteldark> pero ta picho este pinche dolphin
[02:02] <mefisto__> kubuntu_linux: what happened? did it display anything in input device?
[02:02] <mysteldark> wtf?
[02:02] <mysteldark> what are you talking about
[02:03] <ubuntu> Hi all, i need some quick help if possible, im installing kubuntu on a raid array everything is going good except im at the point where im installing ubuntu-minimal and the cupsys pacakge constantly fails so i can't progress the install is there a way to omit or force the package through?
[02:03] <ubuntu> this is a manual install
[02:03] <mysteldark> try
[02:03] <mysteldark> downloading the iso
[02:03] <mysteldark> and install in the mode probe
[02:04] <ubuntu> i can't use the installer to install the OS
[02:04] <ubuntu> i have to doa  manual install
[02:04] <ubuntu> by chrooting over to the target system
[02:04] <ubuntu> everything goes fine except cupsys fails to start/install
[02:04] <ubuntu> and its holding up the whole install
[02:04] <ubuntu> can i OMIT or FORCE the install?
[02:05] <BluesKaj> !enter | mysteldark
[02:07] <flaccid> ubuntu: whats the error?
[02:08] <Nyle> hey
[02:08] <ubuntu>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[02:08] <Nyle> what is the thing with strigi
[02:08] <Nyle> why it keep crashign?
[02:08] <ubuntu> invoke-rc.d: initscript cupsys, action "start" failed.
[02:08] <mysteldark> someone
[02:08] <Nyle> how can I stop strigi from crashing but still use it
[02:08] <mysteldark> can help me?
[02:08] <Nyle> mysteldark, just ask your question
[02:08] <mysteldark> how i install kd 4.
[02:08] <mysteldark> the last update
[02:08] <ubuntu> Then dpkg errors out and im stuck in a infinte loop...
[02:08] <Nyle> mysteldark, you could go to kubuntu.org
[02:09] <mysteldark> yep im goig to try
[02:09] <Nyle> mysteldark, http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1
[02:09] <flaccid> ubuntu: pastebin the whole output including the command please
[02:10] <ubuntu> k
[02:10] <Nyle> mysteldark, it says to add a repository and then install the package of kde3
[02:10] <Nyle> kde4*
[02:10] <Nyle> but how can I make the strigi useful but not crash
[02:10] <Nyle> anyone?
[02:10] <flaccid> !enter | Nyle
[02:10] <flaccid> !bugs | Nyle
[02:11] <ubuntu> flaccid:  http://pastebin.com/m359e0f7b
[02:11] <Nyle> what?
[02:11] <Nyle> I confused
[02:11] <flaccid> Nyle: submit a bug
[02:11] <Nyle> what bug?
[02:11] <flaccid> Nyle: the crash
[02:11] <ubuntu> flaccid: at the bottom is the error
[02:11] <ubuntu> flaccid: at the very top is the command i execute
[02:12] <flaccid> ubuntu: why do you need to install those packages?
[02:12] <ubuntu> its a fresh install
[02:12] <flaccid> and?
[02:12] <ubuntu> flaccid: im installing on a raid array using dmraid
[02:12] <ubuntu> flaccid: i had to chroot and install the base system
[02:13] <ubuntu> this is the base system, but it hangs on that cupsys package
[02:13] <ubuntu> flaccid: is there a way to execut dpkg -force-all <deb> if so where are the debs located?
[02:13] <flaccid> !enter | ubunu
[02:14] <flaccid> ubuntu: pastebin all of sudo apt-get -f install and also your sources.lst
[02:15] <flaccid> ubuntu: also paste  /var/log/cups/error_log
[02:15] <ubuntu> flaccid: http://pastebin.com/m1c110f2e
[02:15] <ubuntu> flaccid: /var/log/cups/error_log doesn't exist
[02:17] <ubuntu> flaccid: where are the debs that are downloaded for install stored? i maybe able to run a dpkg --force-all <deb file> and be on with it
[02:17] <leba_> when kubuntu choices a partition it asks to divide it for /dev/partition and the other half it keep for linux system, am I right ?
[02:19] <flaccid> ubuntu: i'll look at it while you try sudo dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/cup...
[02:19] <mefisto__> ubuntu: /var/cache/apt/archives/ is where the debs are. maybe try deleting the cups one that is not installing, then install it alone so it will redownload it and hopefully install correctly
[02:20] <ubuntu> i can't remove it
[02:20] <ubuntu> apt-get remove cupsys fails the same way...
[02:20] <flaccid> well the package's integrity seems fine
[02:20] <flaccid> lots on google about this. is this hardy ubuntu?
[02:20] <ubuntu> yes sir
[02:21] <mefisto__> ubuntu: no I mean delete the deb file, then try installing cups
[02:21] <tsuna27> HI
[02:21] <tsuna27> how do I do this http://kde.org/announcements/4.1/screenshots/kwin-wobbly.png
[02:22] <ubuntu> same thing
[02:22] <ubuntu> it installs but if fails on "setting up"
[02:22] <flaccid> ubuntu: ls -l /usr/share/cups/mime please
[02:22] <flaccid> reinstall will be the same thing as what its doing now yes
[02:23] <ubuntu> http://pastebin.com/m6a6472a7
[02:23] <ubuntu> yes it fails the same way
[02:23] <mefisto__> tsuna27: find desktop effects in system settings, and enable wobbly windows, as is shown in that screenshot
[02:24] <flaccid> ubuntu: did you try the force install yet?
[02:24] <ubuntu> yeah
[02:24] <ubuntu> its successful
[02:24] <ubuntu> but if i run apt-get install .... it fails with the same error
[02:24] <flaccid> so all good?
[02:24] <flaccid> right
[02:25] <flaccid> ubuntu: just touch the log file just in case thats the problem. sudo touch /var/log/cups/error_log
[02:26] <flaccid> ubuntu: so is cupsys installed atm?
[02:26] <ubuntu> yes
[02:26] <mysteldark> -_-
[02:26] <ubuntu> but apt-get fails when SETTING UP.....
[02:27] <flaccid> you mean it restarts it. it should have errors in that log file now..
[02:27] <ubuntu> http://pastebin.com/m1f0fcbef
[02:27] <ubuntu> no errors
[02:28] <ubuntu> remember this is not a live enviroment, im just chrooted over
[02:28] <flaccid> ubuntu: pastebin sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart; cat /var/log/cups/error_log
[02:29] <flaccid> you are still chrooted?
[02:29] <flaccid> well no wonder...
[02:29] <ubuntu> flaccid: error_log is empty restart does nothing
[02:29] <ubuntu> i figured it would be due to being chrooted, however how am i supposed to progress the install?
[02:29] <ubuntu> unless
[02:29] <mysteldark> wau you have a big problem
[02:30] <ubuntu> i "could" do a dpkg -i * in /var/archive
[02:30] <ubuntu> and reboot
[02:30] <BluesKaj> mysteldark, join #kubuntu-kde4
[02:30] <ubuntu> and hope for the best lol
[02:30] <flaccid> i wouldn't expect cupsys to be able to start/restart in chroot which is the requirement here..
[02:30] <CostaRicanQuaker> I thought i had installed ubuntu-studio with synaptic, but i just restarted the computer and it wasn't listed in hte session type?what do i have to do?
[02:31] <flaccid> CostaRicanQuaker: #ubuntu-studio
[02:32] <ubuntu> flaccid:  can i just do a dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archive/*
[02:35] <flaccid> ubuntu: maybe sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/*
[02:35] <ubuntu> trying that
[02:35] <flaccid> thats not really desirable and i don't see how it will help
[02:35] <ubuntu> i think ill have to do force-all as it will have dep problems since it will install packages in order not in dep order
[02:36] <flaccid> why cannot be done not in chroot?
[02:37] <ubuntu> flaccid i ran dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archive/*
[02:40] <leba_> when kubuntu choices a partition it asks to divide it for /dev/partition and the other half it keep for linux system, am I right ?
[02:40] <flaccid> leba_: sorry that doesn't make sense. can you re-phrase it
[02:40] <BluesKaj> leba_, no
[02:42] <leba_> I have /dev/sda2 with 100Gb ready to kubuntu intall, when I run the installer it recognizes and divides it in two pieces, one is write Kubuntu and the other /dev/sda2 inside. What is that for ?
[02:42] <leba_> BluesKaj, whas is it for then ?
[02:43] <leba_> s/whas/what
[02:43] <BluesKaj> leba , don't let it divide the partition for you , try to edit the partition manually
[02:45] <flaccid> is there a kubuntu installation guide somewhere?
[02:46] <flaccid> im not sure that https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall#Select a Disk really says much and if that is the same for kubuntu installer
[02:46] <mot_> what's the utility i can install so that when i hit printscr in kde4.1 it pops up and takes a screenshot and asks where to save it?
[02:47] <flaccid> mot_: wrong channel, see topic
[02:48] <ubuntu> flaccid, installing grub
[02:48] <flaccid> ubuntu: why? i really don't get what you are trying to achieve but ok :)
[02:49] <ubuntu> flaccid: this is a manual install, im not using the installer
[02:49] <ubuntu> i have no os
[02:49] <ubuntu> im installing Kubuntu right now lol
[02:49] <flaccid> i don't get it
[02:50] <leba_> ok, I solved it already, thank you guys...
[02:53] <BluesKaj> leba_, did you edit the partition manually ?
[02:55] <leba_> BluesKaj, yes.
[02:57] <BluesKaj> leba_, good :)
[02:58] <flaccid> its kind of weird how you cannot edit comments on launchpad
[03:00] <Jucato> flaccid: bug report?
[03:00] <flaccid> yeah i made a subsequent comment because i couldn't find an edit button to fix a typo
[03:03] <kaiserjd> can someone tell me what channel i should go to for help on an ssh tunnel question?
[03:03] <flaccid> kaiserjd: ##linux and #ubuntu-server might be a chance and you can ask here too
[03:04] <Jucato> flaccid: find a bug tracker that allows editing of comments, then probably submit a wishlist to launchpad to do something similar
[03:05] <flaccid> maybe its not there for a logical reason like people changing their reports = re-work and stuff
[03:05] <kaiserjd> ok wll i want to use a tunnel to forward through a blocked port 25 at school to my personal isps smtp server.... do you get what i'm saying.... i'm kinda new at it and i'm not sure if what i want is even possible
[03:06] <Jucato> flaccid: there must be a logical reason that no bug tracker (at least none that I've so far encountered) allows editing of comments
[03:06] <flaccid> Jucato: yes that was my point
[03:07] <ubuntu> flaccid: can you pastebin a sample of your fstab?
[03:07] <flaccid> ubuntu: why?
[03:09] <ubuntu> so i can create mine :P
[03:09] <yogi_> Howdy folks
[03:09] <Dragnslcr> flaccid- we use http://www.mantisbt.org/ at work, and it allows editing notes/comments
[03:10] <rudyerazo> español
[03:10] <yogi_> anyone here good with networking in linux? need to access remote PC running vista behind router w/ dhcp
[03:12] <flaccid> yogi_: whats the problem?
[03:12] <miraclemaxim> yogi why do you need networking in linux for that?>
[03:12] <flaccid> cool Dragnslcr
[03:12] <buckethead> yogi_: What have you already done?
[03:12] <flaccid> ubuntu: install package mount and see /usr/share/doc/mount/examples/fstab
[03:13] <yogi_> ssh client on Linux, ssh server on vista...need to access shared drive on vista....
[03:13] <flaccid> !samba | yogi_
[03:13] <buckethead> Is the correct port (I can't remember it off the top of my head) open on the router?
[03:14] <flaccid> well if its LAN then the router is irrelevant
[03:14] <yogi_> um the vista pc is not on my network...
[03:14] <buckethead> From him saying 'behind router' I was thinking it was on a different lan. That tripped me up bad last time I tried it.
[03:15] <yogi_> so i'm not sure I can use samba
[03:15] <buckethead> I was hitting the wrong <IP_ADDRESS> and wondering why I couldn't find the share.
[03:15] <buckethead> yogi_: Either forward the port on the destination router or for testing DMZ the vista machine
[03:15] <buckethead> Once you do that, samba, nx, whatever will work fine.
[03:16] <rafael> fv
[03:16] <rafael> f
[03:16] <rafael> f
[03:16] <rafael> f
[03:16] <rafael> d
[03:16] <rafael> s
[03:16] <flaccid> yogi_: its bad practice to do samba over WAN. you should set up a vpn instead or use a different protocol
[03:16] <yogi_> that's why i was thinking ssh
[03:16] <flaccid> yes openssh server is the way to go with scp etc.
[03:16] <yogi_> I've never set up a vpn connection before
[03:16] <flaccid> openssh will be the quickest and easiest in this situation
[03:17] <flaccid> you can get it for windows as well then just forward 22 to the vista box for example
[03:17] <yogi_> how do i overcome the IP issue? again, DHCP in target PC
[03:17] <flaccid> yogi_: ip issue?
[03:17] <buckethead> Port forwarding on the router. What router is it?
[03:18] <yogi_> yeah, target PC ISP assigns dynamic IP...router is wrt5t4g
[03:18] <yogi_> linksys
[03:18] <flaccid> target pc?
[03:18] <buckethead> Same as fine, go ahead and log into it.
[03:18] <yogi_> destination PC
[03:19] <flaccid> yogi_: set the dest. pc to static so it become a 'static' server and cannot change ip. unless your linksys router support static dhcp/dhcp reservations..
[03:20] <yogi_> hmm, so no need to set up dyDNS then? I was just reading something about it but not sure about approach
[03:20] <flaccid> yogi_: i was talking about the LAN ip of the dest. server so the port forward map always works to the same ip. for the external host address dyndns client will be useful yes
[03:21] <buckethead> Log into the router and go to applications and gaming. You have to have the system ip address put in there to forward the port.
[03:21] <yogi_> so dyDNS to external IP, port forward on router
[03:22] <buckethead> When I hit my router from the outside world on port 80, It knows to forward that traffic to my webserver box. Know what I mean?
[03:22] <flaccid> yeah and port forward to the vista box which should have openssh server installed (you can get it for windows)
[03:22] <yogi_> wish I knew more about networking guys. I think I have to read fundementals of TCP/IP
[03:23] <buckethead> Toying with it is the easiest way to figure it out.
[03:23] <flaccid> can take time to learn, im still hopeless
[03:23] <yogi_> yeah, but I'm always remote so network access is necessary for me
[03:24] <flaccid> well if you do the above then it should all be sweet
[03:24] <flaccid> its an easy alternative to a vpn
[03:24] <yogi_> thanks guys, i think I have the idea down. I just have to read a little about protocols and ssh
[03:40] <ubuntu> well here goes nothing
[03:46] <nickolaus_> I have a kodak micro SD card and I can't seem to edit the card in any way.
[03:51] <timboy> I just upgraded my hard drive and I can't resize my partition with my livecd... I can resize my swap just fine but can't do anything with my / partition. can someone give me a hand?
[03:54] <stoffer> I installed ktemperature to monitor my processor temp, but all it says in the bottom panel is NA... is there something else I need to do?  I definitely worked for me in XP, so I have a sensor.
[03:56] <word> stoffer: you have to mess around with lm-sensors
[03:56] <word> stoffer: well depending on what ktemperature does...ktemperature should have a tutorial or something on how to get it set up and working
[03:56] <word> stoffer: want me to try to find one?
[03:57] <stoffer> word:  I'll try googling it, see what I come up with
[03:57] <stoffer> but I have another question
[03:58] <stoffer> what's the best-working way to make kubuntu look like osx?
[03:58] <stoffer> because there are different theme managers
[03:58] <word> heh, with kde4 or 3?
[03:58] <stoffer> 3
[03:58] <stoffer> I've played with them in the past but they never work right for me
[03:58] <word> hmm..i think there's actually a tutorial that came out recently but it might've been for 4..
[03:59] <stoffer> I tried out 4 when the stable version came out with kubuntu, but it didn't seem ready
[04:00] <stoffer> it seems as though kdm only works for the logon screen
[04:00] <word> stoffer: kde4.1 is loads, and i mean LOADS better, but it still needs some work with things getting ported and such
[04:01] <stoffer> loads better in what sense?
[04:01] <word> stoffer: i found a tut for gnome osx..lemme look some more
[04:01] <stoffer> it seemed choppy to me
[04:01] <stoffer> very few options in the system settings
[04:01] <word> stoffer: doesn't crash..things are finished up....panels work like they should...icons are 'better'
[04:01] <vijish> hi
[04:01] <word> stoffer: yah, that goes along with the porting, even disk management hasn't been ported yet
[04:02] <stoffer> word, well I run an ntfs partition so disk management is important to me
[04:02] <ty> watup
[04:03] <word> stoffer: that's not a problem, with disk management i mean like...the system settings thing that used to be under "File and Disk Management" or something like that, you have to install the kde3 version and run it seperately to use it
[04:04] <stoffer> ic
[04:04] <stoffer> well I think I'll stay with the "rock solid" 3 for a while
[04:04] <stoffer> as long as I can make it look better
[04:04] <stoffer> i'm getting tired of this boring default theme
[04:05] <word> pretty much all of it can be done with qtparted/gparted but meh :-/
[04:07] <timboy> turns out that my main partition is an extended partition does that matter?
[04:07] <word> stoffer: http://linuxgangster.org/forums/showthread.php?p=6521 there you go :)
[04:08] <stoffer> awesome, thanks!
[04:08] <_2> timboy linux doesn't care
[04:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> [23:02] <word> stoffer: doesn't crash..things are finished up....panels work like they should...icons are 'better' <- that's the usual criteria for a beta, (or at least doesn't crash *much*), not a final release, i'll wait for 4.2 :)
[04:08] <_2> timboy i don't even use a partition
[04:09] <word> _2,timboy: there used to be a bug in gparted that made it freak out and care i think it's in their live cd version..that they stopped supporting...so it's best to go with a seperate live cd like knoppix that includes it :-/
[04:10] <_2> word maybe i should ask what timboy was doing ?
[04:11] <_2> word but still "linux" doesn't care where it lives as long as it's a "real" file system
[04:11] <word> Daisuke_Laptop: the only reason i'd stay with kde3 right now, if i wasn't already committed :P, is that kde4 managed to expose a bug in nvidia's drivers so performance is slow
[04:11] <word> _2: yah, true. the only reason i could see for him wondering about extended partitions is from gparted being stupid, i spent hours trying to figure that stuff out lol it was a serious pain
[04:12] <Nyle> hey
[04:12] <Nyle> word
[04:12] <Nyle> whats up long time
[04:12] <Daisuke_Laptop> kde4 isn't slow because of nvidia's driver.  it's slow because they've chosen to reinvent the entire dang thing.  it'll get there eventually.  but it's not ready yet
[04:12] <_2> !C
[04:12] <word> Daisuke_Laptop: it isn't slow imo, but video and stuff is, and it is because of the nvidia driver
[04:13] <word> Nyle: not much :-/ you?
[04:13] <Nyle> hey guys, I have a ntfs disk and I mount it with ntfs-3g and I try to put some files in it, but after it copy the file into ntfs disk, it always tell me 'cannot change permission for ____ file'
[04:13] <Nyle> word, just trying to free space on /home by copy stuff to ntfs
[04:13] <Nyle> but i get error (file still get copy fine though)
[04:14] <Nyle> ~/windows is owned by root, and group plugdev
[04:14] <_2> Nyle of course it can't change the permissions bit,  there isn't one.
[04:14] <Nyle> _2, but why tell me then
[04:14] <Nyle> why try to set perm anyway, I don't try to setup the permission
[04:14] <Nyle> I only tried to copy the file into ntfs, and it work, but gives error, how can I make error stop
[04:15] <Nyle> _2, why tell me constantly?
[04:15] <Nyle> _2, how to make it stop telling?
[04:15] <_2> because the app you used to copy doesn't check to see what fs it's copying to... ?     and to understand why it tries to set the permissions you have to undefstand who linux works
[04:15] <Nyle> its konqueror
[04:16] <_2> how
[04:16] <Nyle> I got "information konqueror: cannot change permisson for this file"
[04:16] <Nyle> all i did was select video file from ext3 /home to ~/windows ntfs
[04:16] <Nyle> files get copied, on ntfs, i can see access them, but I keep getting this messag,e which I want to stop
[04:16] <Nyle> thats all
[04:16] <_2> and like i said.  it can't change the permissions bit because the permission bit is non-existant
[04:16] <Nyle> so its a problem with what?
[04:17] <_2> M$ file system don't have unix permissions bits
[04:17] <Nyle> so you said.. ok.. how does that help me?  I understand why it doesn't work, but thats not my problem
[04:17] <_2> with the fs
[04:17] <Nyle> I understand ntfs doesn't have the nix acls
[04:17] <_2> and ?
[04:17] <Nyle> I'm simply asking how to not get this error
[04:18] <_2> start konq with  2>/dev/null   maybe ?
[04:18] <Nyle> you're telling me everyone in kubuntu who ever tries to copy stuff to ntfs constantly gets these errors?
[04:18] <Nyle> and they deal with it?
[04:18] <Nyle> this doesn't sound like releaseable behaviour for a 'stable' os
[04:18] <_2> Nyle basicly yes.
[04:18] <Nyle> so how can I fix it
[04:18] <CyberSix> doesn't seem like a kubuntu issue?
[04:19] <Nyle> well whatever issue it is, can anyone try to help me identify and then possibly fix the problem
[04:19] <Nyle> :)
[04:20] <_2> Nyle it can't be fixed.   that's the point.    it's a problem with the file system you are writing to.   it's not a problem with linux, or your app.       if you want a "work around"  you can setup fstab (or use command line args)  to mount the fs with a psyudo permissions and owner that will be the same as the files you copy.
[04:21] <Nyle> _2, ok
[04:21] <Nyle> so basically I need to mount with a certain uid/gid
[04:21] <Nyle> of course it can be 'fixed'
[04:21] <_2> with a certain uid gid and dmask fmask   yes
[04:21] <Nyle> don't need d/fmask anyway
[04:22] <_2> Nyle it can't be fixed, because it's not broken.
[04:22] <Nyle> uid/gis is more than enough
[04:22] <Nyle> _2, I'm sorry, thank you for your help, however I don't have time to sit around and play word games
[04:22] <Nyle> you're absolutely right.
[04:22]  * Nyle goes to fix his problem
[04:22] <Nyle> to #debian
[04:24] <CyberSix> lol..
[04:24]  * Daisuke_Laptop shrugs
[04:24] <_2> glad that's over.
[04:24] <Daisuke_Laptop> 'swhat he gets for voluntarily using NTFS
[04:24] <CyberSix> he'll get what he deserves
[04:24] <mefisto__> I don't get any messages copying files to ntfs partitions
[04:24] <nickolaus_> I just installed xp on my laptop (dual boot xp/ubuntu) I am trying to access a computer on my network (Yahweh) and for some reason I am unable to find Yahweh on my network. It worked before with the previous windows install. Not sure why. I always felt that networking in windows was some kind of voodoo ritual though, it could just be windows.
[04:25]  * Daisuke_Laptop avoids the "it doesn't exist" jokes
[04:25] <_2> mefisto__ like i said it depends on what you use and how you have the psyudo perms/owner setup on the broken fs
[04:27] <_2> nickolaus_ and that is relevant to linux kubuntu or a question.   in what way ?
[04:28] <nickolaus_> _2 Ah, sorry. Yahweh is kubuntu.
[04:28] <_2> still    how is that a question.  or a linux related issue ?
[04:28] <nickolaus_> _2 but given that U and K are pretty much the same I just didn't think to add it.
[04:29]  * _2 waits for a ligitmate response.
[04:29] <mefisto__> nickolaus_: I think he means your problem is a windows one
[04:29] <nickolaus_> _2 Be - cause I can -- not -- conn---ect toooo a lin--ux com---put---er...
[04:30] <nickolaus_> I just wanted to know if it was a common issue and if so where to I look.
[04:30] <_2> o-----k==!
[04:30] <_2> !samba
[04:31] <nickolaus_> Because if I go to #windows and say "Hey I'm trying to get what was a working samba connection to work with a new xp install on my laptop to access my Kubuntu computer" they would go something like duh.
[04:32] <nickolaus_> so umm. I apologize for asking a question the answer is most likely to be found. ;)
[04:34] <_2> nickolaus_ still if it was working from windows to linux  and windows was reinstalled   and nothing in linux changed.   then   where is the issue ?      answer "probably in the newly installed windows system --- just a guess :)"     if you want to reconfigure samba then maybe that page will help ^
[04:35] <ForgeAus> well it worked.. for the most part
[04:35] <ForgeAus> not so sure I like the login theme....
[04:35] <_2> write you own.
[04:35] <harpreet> where do windows minimize in kde4.1? i dont see them after they just disappear in the desktop??? any help?
[04:36] <_2> harpreet   maybe you can use alt+tab to get them back ?
[04:36] <_2> harpreet  i can't answer your question.    that was just a sujestion.
[04:37] <harpreet> Agent_bob: thank you it works
[04:39] <Agent_bob> welcome.
[04:46] <Reformer81> Could someone please point me to the right way to convert videos to DVD format?  I had the instructions once, but I think Google lost them ;)
[04:47] <chalcedony> chalcedony
[04:47] <Agent_bob> :)
[04:48] <GS3User> what do i type to join another channel?
[04:48] <Agent_bob> /join ...
[04:48] <GS3User> thanks :)
[04:48] <Reformer81> GS3User: /join [channel]
[04:49] <Agent_bob> !dvd
[04:50] <Agent_bob> !encode
[04:50] <Agent_bob> !encoding
[04:50] <Agent_bob> ok.
[04:51]  * mr---t- wonders if _2 is the secret agent of agent bob
[04:52] <Agent_bob> _2 is base two
[04:52] <mr---t-> i know
[04:52] <ForgeAus> where do you set kdm theme?
[04:52] <mr---t-> don't get all binary on me
[04:53] <Agent_bob> :)
[04:53] <ForgeAus> (in gutsy)
[04:53] <Agent_bob> as long as you don't get too graphic mr---t- :)
[04:54] <mr---t->  :-)
[04:54] <Agent_bob> ForgeAus kcontrol   maybe ?
[04:56] <n8k99> is it just me or is adding plasmoids through the Get HotStuff dialog not workingon KDE4.1?
[04:56] <Agent_bob> !kde4
[04:57]  * n8k99 is familiar with _what_ KDE4 is
[04:57] <GS3User> you might try the #kubuntu-kde4 channel
[04:58] <n8k99> thanks
[04:58] <nuxil> after messing around with it a bit.. i find kde4 horrible..
[04:58] <GS3User> it's new, give it time
[04:58] <GS3User> i'm sure the early versions of kde weren't too pleasant at the get-go either
[04:58] <buckethead> Really? I like 4. I especially like 4.1.
[04:59] <nuxil> GS3User, i know.. i remember the early kde versions.
[04:59] <n8k99> its very beautiful and rich
[04:59] <nuxil> rich in eyecandy :p
[05:00] <n8k99> and actually runs faster on this machine than 3.5 does
[05:00] <GS3User> most folks like eye-candy
[05:00]  * Agent_bob noticed
[05:00] <buckethead> Once people hack out the fouled pieces, things will be alot better. I wouldn't mind doing a little of it myself if I had more time. I enjoy a challenge.
[05:01] <nuxil> n8k99, oh ?
[05:01] <n8k99> yeah- this is a pretty old Dell laptop
[05:01] <n8k99> i can not run compiz on it
[05:01] <n8k99> but in KDE4 i can do teh composite stuff
[05:02] <GS3User> huh, that's neat
[05:02] <n8k99> and the startup from KDM login to desktop functioning is at least 5 seconds faster
[05:03] <nuxil> k4 is much slower than k3 on my pc.. n8k99 i think you gotten lucky :p
[05:03] <buckethead> I would say my time is about even.
[05:03] <n8k99> nuxil:  i guess so
[05:04] <Agent_bob> it would take me about 20 seconds to load kde3   or about 2 days to load kde4
[05:05] <nuxil> hehe
[05:05] <n8k99> um, hyperbole much?
[05:05] <Agent_bob> hyper ?    hyper ?   no i'm not hyper....
[05:06] <Agent_bob> bashohII:  hyperbole     heh.  no.
[05:06] <mefisto__> for me, kde4 login is slower, but kde4 apps start up faster than the kde3 equivalents
[05:06] <Reformer81> Could someone please point me to the right way to convert videos to DVD format?  I had the instructions once, but I think Google lost them ;)
[05:07] <mefisto__> is there a right way?
[05:08] <Agent_bob> !vob
[05:08] <mefisto__> Reformer81: do you want dvd menus?
[05:09] <Agent_bob> the bot is totally ignorant on this issue...
[05:09] <Agent_bob> !info tovid
[05:10] <Agent_bob> !info devede
[05:10] <Reformer81> mefisto__: I just want to convert formats.... from .avi or .flv to whatever DVDs use.
[05:11] <Reformer81> mefisto__: I don't actually burn the DVD discs in Linux, but in Windows.
[05:11] <Agent_bob> Reformer81 .mov
[05:11] <nuxil> transcoder ?
[05:11] <Reformer81> I know DVDs use a certain kind of mpeg video.
[05:11] <Agent_bob> i think i posted two ways    ^
[05:11] <Reformer81> nuxil: I used ffmpeg before.. just can't remember the commands to ensure the correct format.
[05:12] <Reformer81> Agent_bob: Those create the actual DVDs... I just want to convert formats.
[05:12] <mefisto__> videotrans and dvdauthor too, and qdvdauthor if you want a gui for dvdauthor (which can make quite fancy menus if you want them)
[05:12] <nuxil> Reformer81, take look in gtranscoder
[05:12] <GS3User> aren't dvds mpeg4?
[05:13] <nuxil> i thought they where mpeg II
[05:13] <Reformer81> GS3User: I believe so.... but I can't find the actuall ffmpeg command to convert it as such.
[05:13] <GS3User> ah, gotchya
[05:13] <Agent_bob> Reformer81 oh i'm so silly.   i though you could use them to do the conversion and NOT have to burn it to a disk...     that's so silly of me.
[05:13] <mefisto__> GS3User: mpeg2, but the file structure, etc is important too
[05:13] <Reformer81> Agent_bob: Wow... no need to be an ass about it.  Thank.  You.  I. Will.  Do. That.  Now. That. I.  Know. It. Is. Possible.
[05:14] <Reformer81> Fricken elitist KDEers
[05:14] <mefisto__> GS3User: look at the files and directories on a dvd disk and you'll see
[05:14] <buckethead> Haha.
[05:14] <GS3User> yes, i understand that there are a variety of files, i was talking about the video files themselves though
[05:15] <Agent_bob> GS3User the .mov files are the vidio files
[05:15] <buckethead> elitist? really? *shakes head*
[05:15] <mefisto__> .mov files on a dvd?
[05:15] <ForgeAus> icky screenres in gutsy
[05:16] <GS3User> hmm...
[05:16] <Agent_bob> mefisto__ heh  oops.  .vob    where i got mov i'll never know.
[05:16] <ForgeAus> maybe I need ati stuff installed
[05:16] <ForgeAus> bbl
[05:16] <GS3User> yeah, i was about to check and make sure i wasn't going crazy... .mov is unpleasant :P
[05:17] <Agent_bob> it's only one char off     ....
[05:17] <GS3User> lol, fair enough
[05:17] <nuxil> hehe.. tr 'm' 'v' :p
[05:18] <mefisto__> k9copy has dvd authoring, but I can't get it to work. it crashes as soon as I try to add a video file
[05:20] <Agent_bob> gs3  but yeah   the .vob files on the dvd are the vidio files   and in many cases they are all one needs from the disk.    in some cases there will be "oops's" that the controll files will cause to skip over   but i have copied the .vob's and watched them...
[05:21] <Agent_bob> or in typo format  .mov files....  :)
[05:22] <nuxil> heh.. arent the files usaly 1024 MB ?
[05:22] <nuxil> each vob file
[05:23] <Agent_bob> nuxil the limit on lingth is a fs imposed limit  i think
[05:23] <Agent_bob> but yes   1g long
[05:24] <mefisto__> nuxil: I think that's to make the disks compatible with as many players as possible, but any file size should work on a pc if you open the .vob files directly
[05:25] <Agent_bob> mefisto__ maybe we should check the file size constraints on iso9660 and udf  ?
[05:25]  * Agent_bob goes to google
[05:25] <nuxil> mefisto__, i know... i noticed that most times the files are 1GB
[05:26] <nuxil> yea  maybe there a  diff in size on thouse 2 filesystem
[05:28] <mefisto__> there is no filesize limit on UDF
[05:29] <mefisto__> the limit is the size of the volume
[05:29] <mefisto__> http://www.softarch.com/us/dvd/UDF_whitepaper.pdf
[05:30] <nuxil> ahh nice.. didnt know that..
[05:37] <GH-Crew> hello anyone care to help
[05:38] <Agent_bob> linux can't write larger than 1g to udf   as of dapper the patch came in the kernel to limit that.   reading larger files would still work but not creating them.       (there may have been change in later releases)
[05:46] <mefisto__> Agent_bob: why the 1gb write limit? do you know? is it just to foolproof writing dvd video, or some other reason?
[05:47] <Agent_bob> mefisto__ because the udf support was not able to handle larger.  the kernel patch was a hot fix to close a security hole.    i'm still investigating...
[05:48] <Agent_bob> affecting kernel 2.6.17>
[05:49] <Agent_bob> probably before that too... just haven't seen anything eariler
[05:49] <DiViN3> Anyone Here knows how to proxify bots hostname when using homeserver
[05:59] <Agent_bob> other than that one kernel bug   i'm not really finding an answer
[06:00] <Agent_bob> i find lots of chatter about it.   but no real information
[06:04] <roabish> guys!!!
[06:05] <bpcomp> what?
[06:05] <roabish> has anyone here installed dialup-admin  and got it to work properly?
[06:05] <ForgeAus> hmmm kde4 is big
[06:05] <ForgeAus> chubky d/l's
[06:05] <ForgeAus> rofk chuNky
[06:06] <bpcomp> not it roabish
[06:06] <roabish> huh?
[06:06] <bpcomp> as in tag
[06:07] <bpcomp> I havn't installed dialup-admin
[06:07] <roabish> ok
[06:07] <ForgeAus> prolly not compared to other stuff, just biggah than I thort in adept...
[06:07] <roabish> what about freeradius?
[06:07] <renan> algum brasileiro ai
[06:08] <bpcomp> han't done that either, in fact I'm fairly useless
[06:08] <roabish> haha
[06:08] <ForgeAus> hmm I think I should go hardy before I try kde4... then I can bypass thru to 4.1 :)
[06:08] <roabish> whats the range of your knowledge?
[06:08] <roabish> home user, sys admin
[06:08] <bpcomp> >nil
[06:09] <roabish> rolf
[06:09] <bpcomp> home user
[06:09] <roabish> sweet why you in the support chat channel?
[06:09] <bpcomp> to get support ;-)
[06:09] <roabish> anything i can help you with
[06:09] <bpcomp> not atm
[06:09] <roabish> cool
[06:10] <bpcomp> I'm just watching and learning
[06:10] <bpcomp> sometimes I have an answer
[06:10] <roabish> goo place to start
[06:10] <roabish> good place to start
[06:10] <DiViN3> Anyone Here knows how to proxify bots hostname when using homeserver
[06:11] <DiViN3> or should i say torify
[06:11] <roabish> sorry dude no idea
[06:11] <DiViN3> hmm...
[06:11] <DiViN3> isnt there any openshh setting that configure for tor program
[06:12] <roabish> DiViN3 do you have any experience with diapup-admin (part of the freeradius package)
[06:12] <bpcomp> as I understand it ssh and tor are talking different launguages
[06:12] <roabish> diALUP-ADMIN
[06:13] <DiViN3> bpcomp : if i m not wrong the older version of openssh had the support for socks tunneling to enable the hostname of eggdrop/psybnc to be proxified
[06:14] <DiViN3> roabish: wat u wanna know abt dial-admin
[06:14] <Agent_bob> mefisto__ i found one link that says there is a file size limit on .mov fromat  1g max    haven't confirmed it yet though.
[06:14] <mefisto__> Agent_bob: you mean .vob ?
[06:15] <Agent_bob> mefisto__ yeah what did i say ?
[06:15] <roabish> i have installed everything required but dialup admin doesnt work
[06:15] <Agent_bob> pfft  yes. .vob
[06:15] <roabish> installed everything via synaptic
[06:15] <DiViN3> roabish : wats the error msg huh
[06:15] <bpcomp> do you get any errors?
[06:16] <roabish> open brower and localhost is there
[06:16] <roabish> but no diapup-admin
[06:16] <roabish> http://localhost/dialup
[06:16] <bpcomp> su as root?
[06:17] <bpcomp> or sudo as the case maybe
[06:17] <roabish> tried that as well
[06:17] <bpcomp> so it's not a permissions problem
[06:17] <roabish> synaptic doesnt install dialup-admin into the /var/www dir
[06:18] <roabish> done the install via synaptic, but where does it install to?
[06:19] <roabish> done a search on the system for it but search relsuts are zero
[06:19] <Agent_bob> !info dialup-admin
[06:19] <Agent_bob> you installed it how ?
[06:19] <roabish> installed it seperatly
[06:19] <Agent_bob> and what is the package name ?
[06:19] <roabish> yesterday....AGAIN!!!! for the 5th time
[06:20] <bpcomp> do you have php enabled on your box?
[06:20] <roabish> yip
[06:20] <DiViN3> roabish: Wat release r u using
[06:21] <roabish> with perl and mysql
[06:21] <roabish> from the "hardy" distro 1.1.7
[06:21] <roabish> from ubuntu site
[06:21] <DiViN3> roabish : well u can try getting  CVS for dialup-admin
[06:22] <DiViN3> it tends to fix certain errors
[06:22] <roabish> from where?
[06:23] <roabish> any ideas?
[06:23] <DiViN3> Login To Shell & Type :  cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/dialup-admin login
[06:23] <DiViN3> when ask for password just hit enter
[06:23] <roabish> sweet, will give that a try right now
[06:24] <DiViN3> After that Type This : cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/dialup-admin co dialup_admin
[06:25] <DiViN3> after u do that just simply apt-get update
[06:25] <roabish> cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/dialup-admin login
[06:27] <roabish> DiViN3 gives me an error
[06:27] <DiViN3> wat error do u see
[06:27] <roabish> CVS; command not found
[06:27] <roabish> must i install it
[06:27] <DiViN3> yes u hv to install cvs
[06:28] <roabish> sweet will install now
[06:28] <DiViN3> or matbe u try wget http://www.cise.ufl.edu/~sbeck/Set-Files-1.00.tar.gz
[06:28] <nafion> low priority...has anyone here messed with kde4 widgets? i cant seem to "install new widgets from the internet" properly...
[06:29] <Agent_bob> that error says he typoed
[06:29] <Agent_bob> not CVS   cvs
[06:30] <roabish> sorry it was in lower case
[06:30] <Agent_bob> nafion #kubuntu-kde4
[06:30] <nafion> Agent_bob: much thanks. :)
[06:31] <roabish> isnt synaptic supposed to install the packages to correct location?
[06:31] <roabish> synaptic says it has been installed,but when i browse to the /var/www dir there is nothing
[06:32] <roabish> even done a serch for the dialup-admin dir/folder but results are zero
[06:32] <Agent_bob> synaptic is supposed to unpack the .deb file      it only uses the paths stored in the archive   nothing more   nothing less
[06:32] <DiViN3> well where did u mv the dialup-admin to
[06:32] <roabish> didnt move anything
[06:32] <Agent_bob> short answer to the Q,  no.
[06:32] <DiViN3> roabish : mv dialup_admin /usr/local
[06:33] <roabish> default is supposed to be /var/www
[06:33] <DiViN3> roabish:  ln -s /usr/local/dialup_admin/htdocs /var/www/htdocs/dialup
[06:33] <roabish> sorry if these question sound lame, only started with ubuntu a week ago, no previous linux experience
[06:34] <DiViN3> roabish: no worries everyone are learning too
[06:34] <roabish> it has been a challange thus far
[06:34] <DiViN3> :)
[06:34] <roabish> is it necessary to move it
[06:34] <bpcomp> so if your new to linux, why are you playing with freeradius?
[06:34] <DiViN3> Well To Tell The Truth This Is My 1st Time I Came To This Network
[06:35] <roabish> i want to setup a WISP in my area
[06:36] <roabish> everything else is install and works
[06:36] <bsusa> i was just wondering does anyone have any experience in installing Ubuntu on PSP?
[06:36] <roabish> except for the dialup part
[06:37] <bpcomp> production level or just for fun?
[06:37] <roabish> for fun, for me and my mates
[06:37] <DiViN3> well anyone here wanna trade shells
[06:38] <roabish> if synaptic says it was installed then where is it?
[06:38] <bpcomp> if you arn't gonna charge them then I don't get why you need freeradius
[06:38] <bpcomp> you can try doing a search
[06:38] <DiViN3> roabish: See Your Pvt Msg Plz
[06:38] <roabish> we are going to split the cost, but i will manage it
[06:38] <roabish> cool
[06:53] <Agent_bob> why do i not like dvdrip ???
[06:53] <Agent_bob> bashohII:  nm it's writen in perl.  enough said.
[06:53] <Agent_bob> oh,
[06:54] <ForgeAus> yay kde4 nearly loaded :)
[06:55] <ForgeAus> not ready to try it out yet tho
[06:59] <ForgeAus> !reconfigure
[06:59] <ForgeAus> !dpkg
[06:59] <ForgeAus> uh whats the command line dpkg -? reconfigure or something like that?
[06:59] <ForgeAus> a package failed to work on me
[07:00] <ozzy> *sigh* anyone have a little time to help a linux nub out? >.> im having some issues with kubunto.. and internet..
[07:00] <ForgeAus> ozzy, depends on what your problem is exactly... I may not know how to help
[07:00] <bpcomp> man dpkg
[07:01] <bpcomp> :-)
[07:01] <ozzy> i cant figure out how to configure it to my wireless network, and it wont recognize my wireless card
[07:01] <Agent_bob> dpkg --configure -a       and   apt-get install -f
[07:01] <ozzy> i tried to find a site to troubleshoot the wireless card issue i found ubunto help >.>
[07:02] <ozzy> wtf
[07:02] <ozzy> "requested operation requires superuser privilidge
[07:02] <ozzy> >.>
[07:03] <bpcomp> ozzy can you run <lspci> without brackets from the command line and tell us what chipset your wirless card uses please
[07:03] <Agent_bob> bpcomp be nice.
[07:03] <bpcomp> I'm not trying to be mean
[07:03] <ForgeAus> thanx Agent Bob :)
[07:04] <ozzy> 0.0 i get a bit about "nVidia corperation ck8s parellel ata controller
[07:04] <ozzy> lower network controloer says texas instruments
[07:04] <bpcomp> thats on your motherboard
[07:04] <ozzy> >.>
[07:04] <ozzy> i figured that much :P
[07:04] <ozzy> i dont have anything texas instruments though
[07:05] <ozzy> it doesnt seem to say anything about wlan or any of that
[07:05] <ozzy> how do i get "superuser" >.>
[07:06] <bpcomp> if you want to run a command as the super user
[07:06] <bpcomp> you preceed it with "sudo"
[07:06] <ozzy> mm
[07:07] <bpcomp> sudo copy
[07:07] <bpcomp> would run the copy command as the superuser
[07:07] <ozzy> im using a g-302 wireless card
[07:07] <ozzy> >.>
[07:08] <ozzy> iuno the cmd you told me to input pretty much shows its not registering the cards exsistence
[07:09] <ozzy> any known way for it to find it ?
[07:09] <Agent_bob> copy is not a command.    and don't use sudo with gui apps.
[07:09] <Agent_bob> !kdesu
[07:10] <ForgeAus> yeah in linux its cp instead of copy afaik
[07:10] <Agent_bob> and my lag must be really high right now.
[07:10] <ForgeAus> although you could always make a symlink (essentially in this case an alias)
[07:11] <ozzy> ...
[07:11] <bpcomp> wow, jump down a guys throat for trying to help
[07:11] <bpcomp> I'm sorry for the missinformation
[07:11] <bpcomp> I'm just trying my best to help
[07:11] <ForgeAus> bp I was just trying to be informative, wasn't a slight against you I promise :)
[07:11] <bpcomp> ok
[07:11] <ozzy> ...
[07:12] <bpcomp> I can accept that
[07:12] <ozzy> sooo.... anyone going to tell me my assumption is wrong or right..
[07:13] <ozzy> >.>
[07:13] <bpcomp> afaik your assumtion that the card is not registring is correct
[07:13] <ozzy> yuppppppppp
[07:13] <ozzy> is there anyway i can get it to register
[07:14] <ozzy> >.> or is it not compatible with kubunto
[07:14] <ozzy> i found a list for compatible and uncompatible with ubunto.. but im not sure if that also goes for kubuntk aswell..
[07:14] <Agent_bob> !wifi | ozzy have a look and see if your hardware is supported in ubuntu/linux
[07:14] <Agent_bob> i'm only going to tell you that that page might help   ^
[07:14] <ozzy> *kunto
[07:15] <ozzy> >.>
[07:16] <ozzy> wheres that
[07:16] <Agent_bob> !wifi
[07:16] <Agent_bob> stupid bot is half broken.
[07:16] <ozzy> thats for unbunto though will those go the same for kubunto as well?
[07:17] <Agent_bob> kubuntu is ubuntu
[07:17] <Agent_bob> only the DE is different
[07:17] <rodya__> quick question, is there a way to force a version in Adept like one can in Synaptic?
[07:17] <Agent_bob> well and some defauts
[07:17] <rodya__> hey Agent_bob... two days later, and things are working more or less fine. thanks for the help then
[07:18] <Agent_bob> rodya__ there is in apt.   i don't know about adept, but probably
[07:18] <Agent_bob> rodya__ welcome.
[07:18] <rodya__> what would the command be to review which versions are available to download in apt, and then which to force it? I'll check in --help too
[07:18] <Agent_bob> ScorpKing come to ask or to answer ?  :)))
[07:20] <Agent_bob> rodya__ ummm    hair.  i don't know.   the default would show in apt-cache show packagename        apt-cache policy  maybee?
[07:20] <ScorpKing> Agent_bob: i'm not sure if i should ask my question, i know the awnser. ;)
[07:20] <Agent_bob> ScorpKing just wondering cause im busy as a cat covering crap on concrete
[07:21] <ScorpKing> rodya__: the only thing i know of is aptitude show but i'm not sure if that will help. take a look at the man page
[07:21] <ScorpKing> Agent_bob: then i'll hang around for a few minutes
[07:21] <Agent_bob> k thanks.
[07:22] <Agent_bob> i didn't say the channel was.  i said i was...   so i'll be back in a few.
[07:23] <ScorpKing> is there a way i can brute force attack my loopback encrypted partition to get the correct passwd? something went wrong when i encrypted it but i didn't notice. after the first reboot i can't mount it anymore coz the passwd is wrong.
[07:26] <ForgeAus> !ati
[07:40] <tossy> guten morgen, bin neu, wird hier deutsch geschrieben?
[07:41] <bpcomp> sorry tossy, I understand enough to tell you that I don't speak deutsch
[07:42] <tossy> cool thank you
[07:44] <tossy> i must learning english
[07:49] <Agent_bob> !du
[07:49] <Agent_bob> !de
[07:50] <Agent_bob> and guten tog
[07:51] <ozzy> >.>
[07:56] <spike_> uh just curious does it matter if when installing compiz that you don't have the package named compiz ? one of its dependants is compiz-gnome which I don't have gnome, so I disabled, its still got compiz-core...
[07:57] <spike_> and is emerald still needed for KDE?
[07:58] <spike_> !compiz
[08:06] <Agent_bob> anyone know a good guide to cracking <IP_ADDRESS> ???
[08:07] <spike_> why doesn't kde4addons install?
[08:08] <spike_> hmmm doesn't matter anyway going to restart then dist upgrade to hardy...
[08:08] <spike_> maybe not even restart :)
[08:08]  * Agent_bob points accross the hall at #kubuntu-kde4  and grunts
[08:17] <rodya__> how do i force quit an app from the terminal? it's pid is 10660
[08:18] <Agent_bob> kill it
[08:18] <rodya__> kill 10660?
[08:18] <Agent_bob> yep
[08:18] <Agent_bob> add more force with -6 -9  or -15
[08:19] <Agent_bob> bring down any children with  killall name
[08:19] <Agent_bob> you can add for more force there also
[08:20] <mot_> how do i change the desktop effects in kde?
[08:20] <mot_> i installed kde 3.5.9 and accidentally chose low effects
[08:21] <Agent_bob> and if you ever want to get really ugly mean and nasty,   sudo kill -9 -1    will bring down everything but the kernel.
[08:21] <mot_> and it got rid of the tooltips on my kde desktop icons, and now they look funky.
[08:21] <mot_> how do i rectify that?
[08:23] <Agent_bob> mot idk.
[08:24] <spike_> ok back
[08:25] <spike_> how to test glx?
[08:25] <Agent_bob> well i mean i know that i would probably reset kde   but i've been told so many times not to tell others to do that, that i normally shy away from it now.
[08:25] <Agent_bob> spike_ glxgears
[08:26] <spike_> yup that worx
[08:27] <spike_> uh ok
[08:27] <spike_> maybe not
[08:27] <spike_> Checking for Xgl: not present.
[08:27] <spike_> No whitelisted driver found
[08:28] <spike_> aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity
[08:28] <spike_> no /usr/bin/metacity found, exiting
[08:28] <spike_> guess Ishould go ask in #compiz-fusion uh?
[08:28] <Agent_bob> prolly
[08:28] <Agent_bob> cause idk nuffin bout that
[08:35] <nuxil> Agent_bob, .. your report.. i forgot all about it
[08:38] <Agent_bob> nuxil heh.  anything other than 22 53 and 80 on it ?
[08:38] <nuxil> no not really. you look verry secure
[08:39] <nuxil> actualy.. only 53 is seen as open
[08:39] <Agent_bob> nuxil k thanks.    and i would really really hope so yes.
[08:40] <Agent_bob> ah good.  i knew that 22 was supposed to be local.  but it wouldn't have surprised me if you could see an ssh server on one of the boxen
[08:40] <nuxil> hit accept
[08:41] <Agent_bob> can't priveleged port.
[08:41] <Agent_bob> cancle on your end.
[08:41] <Agent_bob> -:- DCC Priveleged port attempt [0]
[08:41] <Agent_bob> no way to accept that
[08:41] <nuxil> hmm?
[08:42] <nuxil> how do i spesify port with dcc?
[08:43] <Agent_bob> client dependang i think  but   /dcc send boo:# something
[08:43] <knusperfrosch> hi!
[08:43] <knusperfrosch> can i open a kwallet on commandline?
[08:43] <Agent_bob> hiya root
[08:43] <Agent_bob> knusperfrosch type it and see
[08:44] <Agent_bob> i guess root/guest# don't like us...
[08:44] <nuxil> Agent_bob, i'll spam the report in pm :p if you like to see it,,
[08:45] <knusperfrosch> Agent_bob: what an idea! don't you think i might have tried that first before i ask here?
[08:45] <Agent_bob> nuxil if you want.
[08:45] <Agent_bob> nuxil matters not really.
[08:45] <nuxil> ok.
[08:46] <Agent_bob> knusperfrosch no.    we get all sorts of "this is my first day on linux" questions in here
[08:46] <nuxil> never mind then :)
[08:46] <Agent_bob> nuxil :)
[08:46]  * nuxil i wounder why people irc as root
[08:46] <nuxil> -i
[08:46] <Agent_bob> nuxil ignorance or purpose i suppose
[08:47] <nuxil> stupidity i call it
[08:47] <Agent_bob> whois me
[08:47] <Agent_bob> :)
[08:47]  * nuxil smacks Agent_bob
[08:48] <Agent_bob> lol
[08:48] <Agent_bob> i do it mostly out of protest.
[08:48] <Agent_bob> btw i'm not root.   anyone can set their username in their irc client.
[08:48] <nuxil> heh until i can convice you to run /exec -o rm -rf /
[08:49] <Agent_bob> nuxil it'll error out
[08:49] <nuxil> not on xchat ?
[08:49] <Agent_bob> even /exec -o sudo rm -r /   would.
[08:49] <Agent_bob> for me.
[08:49] <nuxil> suppose.
[08:50] <nuxil> but we see you as<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:50] <Agent_bob> btw this is a debian > ubuntu  -f is not needed they didn't alias rm = rm -i
[08:50] <Agent_bob> correct  you see me as root    but i see me as who i am
[08:51] <Agent_bob> you also see me in dallas tx     heh.
[08:51] <nuxil> yep
[08:51] <Agent_bob> well i'm not in dallas
[08:51] <Agent_bob> i'm not even in tx
[08:52] <unclean> whats up everyone new to the unix community had a couple of questions...
[08:52] <nuxil> heh. are you on some tor server ?
[08:52] <nuxil> unclean, unix != linux but simmelar
[08:53] <nuxil> heh anyone remember the sco hack back a while
[08:53] <unclean> i'm having issues logging into websites and watching videos of websites in both firefox and Epiphany
[08:53] <nuxil> unclean, do you got flash installed ?
[08:53] <nuxil> unclean, also install mplayer plugin
[08:53] <unclean> I installed GNASH I belive
[08:54] <nuxil> its not the same
[08:54] <Agent_bob> nuxil i talked with some of the freenode staff about "username root" and as far as they are concerned it's not an issue to the servers,  and only a few of them would "play big brother" and try to save idiots from their self.   so basicly even if i did irc as root.   it's only my issue and not anyone elses.      and no not tor.
[08:54] <Accidus> I'm using Kate to edit Latex documents, but the indentation is wrong. Is there a way to configure it?
[08:55] <nuxil> Agent_bob, yes thats true
[08:56] <Agent_bob> nuxil BUT there are entire networks that ban username root  and even here on freenode username root is banned from many channels.     because of that i use it.        kind of a BITE ME "protest"
[08:57] <nuxil> lol
[08:58] <Agent_bob> unclean !flash infonode has information on that issue too
[09:00] <unclean> okay what about not being to log into sites like myspace and facebook?
[09:01] <nuxil> is it java login ?
[09:01] <unclean> for myspace?
[09:01] <nuxil> yeah
[09:01] <unclean> maybe
[09:01] <unclean> i get this error
[09:01] <nuxil> and you have java installed ?
[09:02] <unclean> Please log in to continue
[09:02] <unclean> Always make sure you're visiting the real myspace.com!
[09:02] <unclean>  Check the URL in your browser.
[09:02] <unclean> . Make sure it begins with http://www.myspace.com/
[09:02] <unclean> More Privacy and Security Tips
[09:02] <Agent_bob> !java
[09:02] <Agent_bob> !flash
[09:03] <unclean> thank will check into those sites
[09:03] <nuxil> Do that
[09:04] <Guest74169> hi
[09:04] <nuxil> hi
[09:05] <unclean> No alternatives for java.
[09:05] <Agent_bob> welcome back root
[09:05] <unclean> I get that when I go in terminal
[09:06] <spike_> hmm compiz never works for me lol :) seen the desktop cube just havn't had it on my own pc!
[09:06] <spike_> (except with Yod3m - xp program)
[09:07] <nuxil> unclean, what you mean. not alternatives for java?
[09:07] <unclean> how can i check my version of Ubuntu
[09:07] <jussi01> !version
[09:07] <unclean> nvm that I need to get a java app first (^_^)
[09:08] <spike_> whats the diff between flash as swf-dec, adobe and gnash?
[09:08] <Agent_bob> quick draw jussi01
[09:08] <jussi01> hehe
[09:23] <ocs> hi. how can i know if my pc is 64 or 32 bit ?
[09:27] <engineer> ocs uname -a
[09:27] <francesco_> !it
[09:28] <ocs> thnks
[09:28] <Ayabara> dpkg-divert: error checking `/usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/media_safelyremove.desktop': No such file or directory
[09:29] <Ayabara> any idea how I can fix this? happens when I try to remove kio-umountwrapper
[09:35] <ocs> well. my problem is that: i have a motherboard PSCH-L asus. intel pentium4 i686. which is the appropriate version of kubuntu to install on it ?
[09:41] <anger_> Hi
[09:41] <anger_> Are the nvidia performance problems already solved in kde4.1?
[09:45] <tackat> anger_: it's nothing KDE could solve
[09:45] <tackat> anger_: it's problems with the drivers
[09:50] <tackat> anger_: have a look at: http://techbase.kde.org/User:Lemma/KDE4-NVIDIA  http://techbase.kde.org/User:Lemma/GPU-Performance and http://liquidat.wordpress.com/2008/07/22/nvidia-on-kde-41-a-greedy-problem/
[09:50] <simone> !list
[09:54] <anger_> I know where the problem is, just wondering that has it been already fixed
[09:55] <anger_> If I just use the nv driver, everything works just fine?
[09:55] <anger_> Meaning that I don't play games
[09:56] <engineer> well
[09:56] <engineer> it will lag if you want to use desktop compositing
[10:00] <sam__> got a squid question.. can anyone help out there..
[10:00] <anger_> ok
[10:01] <sam__> sorry infact its at ppp_oe one..
[10:01] <engineer> !anyone
[10:02] <sam__> i've using an ADSL modem, in bridge mode, so i've used my kubuntu box as the gateway
[10:03] <sam__> but sometimes the DSL link goes down.. and dont know to make sure the link  come backup automaticaly..
[10:04] <sam__> im current using "pon" and "poff"
[10:04] <sam__> according to something is saw in the ubuntuforums
[10:13] <lg188_> having some trouble
[10:13] <lg188_> cant starttup
[10:14] <lg188_> dual boot and i shoose the first installed Os (kubuntu) and than error24
[10:14] <macic_> what?
[10:14] <macic_> error 24?
[10:15] <lg188_> uehm let me seek
[10:16] <lg188_> Error 24 : Attempt to access a block outside partition
[10:19] <lg188_> euhm help ?
[10:21] <macic_> ur partition table is screwed up
[10:21] <macic_> try googling about it
[10:21] <macic_> im not sure aboutthat one at all
[10:23] <DiViN3> lg188_ wats ur issue abt ???
[10:23] <lg188_> DiViN3: Error 24 : Attempt to access a block outside partition
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> quiet today
[10:28]  * ActionParsnip listens to the wind blow
[10:39] <se> #frikitrivial
[10:40] <yason> #don simon
[10:40] <hybrid> My GRUB wont load my windows, is there anyway that i can make it research for operative systems?
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> !grub | hybrid
[10:42] <DiViN3> hybrid : is ur grub showing at startup
[10:43] <ubuntu_claus> hallo is hier wer, bin neueinsteiger und bitte jemanden um hilfe
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> !de | ubuntu_claus
[10:45] <ubuntu_claus> vielen dank, werd mal da stöbern :-)
[10:45] <azril> hello
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> !hi | azril
[10:49] <azril> thank u
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> yw :)
[11:30] <berto> ubuntu.it
[11:32] <berto> come  si fa ad andare nei canale italiano
[11:32] <berto> oppppppppppppp
[11:33] <flaccid> !it | berto
[11:35] <acemo> when increasing the block size of a filesystem will it make the files appear to be bigger? like when having 200 files of 2kb each and putting them in a fs with 4kb blocks or putting them in a fs with 8kb blocks, could it be that the files appear to be bigger on the 8kb blocks fs?
[11:37] <Barbadillo> after the version upgrade to hardy, i have a Xgl process that takes a lot of cpu moving or changing windows
[11:39] <sebastian> hi, i have a microsoft office keyboard and want to use my volume buttons and those shortcuts, is there a program for that in kde 4.1 because it works perfect in gnome.
[11:42] <engineer> sebastian use system settings and define your keyboard model
[11:43] <sebastian> ok thx
[11:44] <sebastian> i found another way now :P
[11:45] <sebastian> engineer: max resolution i can have is 1200, how can i fix that so i can have my full resolution, because my screen and graphic card can handle a lot more.
[11:50] <dan__> Is there any way to fix virtual console switching under Hardy?
[11:51] <flaccid> dan__: its broken?
[11:51] <dan__> I just get a blank screen with a blinking cursor in top left corner on anything other than 1st terminal
[11:52] <flaccid> oh that would be a bug then
[11:52] <dan__> flaccid: Seems so
[11:52] <Briareos1> i once read about a program where more persons could edit text-files simultanously and where everybody sees immediately what the other one is writing. i forgot the name - do you know it?
[11:52] <Barbadillo> hi all, i can't enable the desktop effects in kde4
[11:52] <dan__> Briareos1: Could be screen
[11:53] <kamiccolo> You need video card drivers.
[11:53] <Barbadillo> kamiccolo: i got them
[11:53] <Briareos1> dan__ i believe it was in the window manager - no console prog
[11:53] <kamiccolo> Barbadillo: Are they working properly>
[11:53] <Barbadillo> i think yes
[11:54] <Barbadillo> kamiccolo: i have a process called Xgl that takes much cpu
[11:55] <Barbadillo> i suspect it is stopping the effects
[11:56] <uri> Hello all! Does anyone know why konqueror from kde 4.1 doesn't support web pages saved into war?
[11:56] <Barbadillo> kamiccolo: killing the Xgl process restarted X server
[11:57] <kamiccolo> hmmm...
[11:58] <flaccid> my only advice don't use any xgl :o
[11:58] <Barbadillo> flaccid: how to?
[11:58] <Barbadillo> removing xserver-xgl?
[11:59] <flaccid> usually yes
[11:59] <flaccid> and take it out of xorg.conf if specified in there
[12:00] <Barbadillo> ok now i restart X and see
[12:02] <Barbadillo> ok no more Xgl process
[12:03] <Barbadillo> my desktop is faster but still no desktop effects
[12:03] <flaccid> what kind of desktop effects?
[12:03] <Barbadillo> kde4 effects
[12:04] <flaccid> wrong channel Barbadillo
[12:04] <flaccid> see topic
[12:05] <Barbadillo> ok sorry
[12:05] <flaccid> np
[12:05] <engineer> !kde4
[12:06] <jakari> jussi01 remember my xchat ident question from yesterday?
[12:06] <jussi01> no, but how can i help?
[12:07] <jakari> just that i found a solution nearby. so the original problem: i needed xchat to support multiple idents because of one psybnc account im using
[12:08] <jussi01> ahh,  :)
[12:08] <jakari> xchat actually works fine but xchat-gnome does not have this feature
[12:08] <jakari> so i got plain xchat and using it now happily with multiple idents :)
[12:09] <jussi01> :)
[12:09] <jakari> perhaps there is a way to communicate this to xchat-gnome guys. they have dropped one good original feature
[12:10] <jussi01> !bug | jakari
[12:10] <jakari> thx
[12:11] <flaccid_> hooray for hard crashes
[12:11] <flaccid_> Barbadillo: glxinfo | grep -i direct please
[12:11] <flaccid_> flaccid_: in #kubuntu-kde4 sorry
[12:29] <tuxpr0> I have a problem with Layout changing and other shortcasts :\
[12:30] <tuxpr0> Can someone help me? :D
[12:30] <macic`at`work> maybe:P
[12:31] <tuxpr0> I have a problem with shortcasts
[12:31] <tuxpr0> Even the ALT+A and ALT+C\V for copying doesn't work/.
[12:33] <tuxpr0> so
[12:33] <tuxpr0> any help?
[12:34] <Barbadillo> tuxpr0: why alt and not control?
[12:35] <tuxpr0> This is doesn't matter. No shortcasts are working
[12:35] <charles> allo french
[12:35] <tuxpr0> It is like the shortcasts option is disabled to something like that
[12:37] <Ampher> Is there any way I can active shortcasts with my Kubuntu? :P
[12:37] <Ampher> Sorry for newbie question, I just installed it
[12:38] <Barbadillo> Ampher: go to system settings
[12:38] <Barbadillo> keyboard and mouse
[12:38] <Dragonath> how do I update my firefox flash plugin to 9r115?
[12:38] <Ampher> Barbadillo: then..?
[12:39] <Barbadillo> select keyboard
[12:39] <jussi01> !shortcuts
[12:40] <Ampher> !Keyboard
[12:42] <Ampher> Wtf./
[12:44] <Ampher> My shortcusts still not working wtf :D
[12:44] <Ampher> Even the Back Space key doesn't work
[12:50] <Ampher> Oי
[12:50] <Ampher> םיOh
[12:50] <Ampher> I see that this is a bug with KDEv4
[12:50] <Ampher> This is sucks. haha. I'm going out of here
[12:51] <Tm_T> ok
[12:51] <Tm_T> tuxpr0, rrright
[12:52] <berto> scusata coma si fa per andare nel canale italiano
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> !it | berto
[12:52] <engineer> !it
[13:00] <XmasGhost> hi
[13:00] <XmasGhost> !torrent
[13:01] <XmasGhost> I was wondering if anyone could tell me of a torrent client for linux that's as good as uTorrent
[13:01] <flaccid> ktorrent seems fine enough for me or azureus if you want a java client
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> ktorrent is sweet, especially the web interface
[13:03] <XmasGhost> thing is that I'm on a private tracker and ktorrent is not allowed
[13:03] <XmasGhost> god knows why
[13:03] <lahgersdaas> SOUND problem..!
[13:03] <lahgersdaas> anyone got a simple solution?
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> lahgersdaas: we need more info bro
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> !itsbroken
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> !broken
[13:04] <Pici> !doesntwork
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> ty Pici
[13:04] <Pici> np
[13:04] <lahgersdaas> Sigmatel HDA - Laptoop
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> lahgersdaas: ok, whats it doing or not doing
[13:04] <lahgersdaas> No sound at all
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> lahgersdaas: in any apps?
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> lahgersdaas: do you get startup sound?
[13:05] <lahgersdaas> nope
[13:05] <lahgersdaas> no sound at all
[13:05] <lahgersdaas> quaking dude
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> you got mplayer?
[13:05] <lahgersdaas> no games
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> !mplayer
[13:06] <lahgersdaas> smack baby
[13:06] <ivan__> kuk
[13:06] <lahgersdaas> thats all
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> if you run an audio player does the slider move along but no sound?
[13:06] <lahgersdaas> the volume is set to max
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> does it appear to play but no sounds
[13:07] <lahgersdaas> yer
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> ok, speakers on. volume cranked
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> speakers connected right
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> just covering the basics
[13:08] <lahgersdaas> yer, all volumes maxed, thinks its the software
[13:08] <jussi01> lahgersdaas: only 1 sound card?
[13:08] <lahgersdaas> yer
[13:08] <jussi01> no usb headset or any thing?
[13:08] <lahgersdaas> default laptoop
[13:08] <lahgersdaas> nada
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> ok cool
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> what laptop?
[13:08] <lahgersdaas> low price
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> make / model
[13:09] <lahgersdaas> medion ram-2080
[13:09] <nikolas> hi everybody, can someone help me connect kopete to gmail? it doesn't work
[13:09] <lahgersdaas> broken cd player
[13:09] <superd-> or possibly help me get rid of this awful screen tearing
[13:09] <superd-> or get my mic working with wine :/
[13:10] <lahgersdaas> or my SOUND
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> lahgersdaas: ok, if you run lspci, what sound card do you have
[13:10] <lahgersdaas> error by default?
[13:10] <superd-> lahgersdaas:  what happens when you go into system settings/ sound system / test sound ?
[13:11] <lahgersdaas> no sound, no popup message
[13:11] <lahgersdaas> it just plays
[13:11] <superd-> hardware set to alsa?
[13:11] <superd-> instead of default/auto
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> lahgersdaas: is there a volume switch on the case
[13:11] <lahgersdaas> pulse
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> like a wheel?
[13:11] <superd-> set it to alsa and try that
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> alsa is the nuts :)
[13:12] <superd-> restarting sound system will probably fail, cancle that
[13:12] <superd-> and go back to the test
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> lahgersdaas: is there a wheel thing on the laptops caase to control volume?
[13:13] <SubNet> Hi there
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> hi SubNet
[13:13] <lahgersdaas> No, no wheelies
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> lahgersdaas: ok cool
[13:13] <lahgersdaas> are you on drugs
[13:13] <superd-> hahahha
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> lahgersdaas: whats the output of lspci
[13:13] <superd-> so also didn't work?
[13:13] <SubNet> How can I tell Konqueror to preview jpgs fom an usb-device?
[13:13] <superd-> alsa*
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> lahgersdaas: no, my GFs toshiba lappy has one
[13:14] <lahgersdaas> got no lspci
[13:14] <superd-> also whats wrong with alsa?
[13:14] <lahgersdaas> sta 92xx
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> SubNet: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/how-to-enable-bmp-thumbs-preview-in-konqueror-305657/
[13:15] <lahgersdaas> blasted
[13:15] <lahgersdaas> smelly cat
[13:15] <Rioting_pacifist> i want to recompile my clock applet with a patch, where do i find the sources in the repos? kdebase-dev is all i can see
[13:15] <superd-> build-essentials ?
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> lahgersdaas: have you sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:16] <superd-> can anyone tell me what might have changed to make all my video playback have terrible tearing? (was fine with 7.10)
[13:16] <SubNet> ActionParsnip: Thx, but that's not the point - I have preview from local HDs but I need them from external HDs too
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> SubNet: id imagine its the same deal
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> superd-: got lastest plugins/codecs?
[13:18] <superd-> w32codecs off medi buntu
[13:18] <superd-> had the same issue with just restricted-codecs
[13:18] <superd-> mplayer, vlc
[13:18] <superd-> same thing
[13:18] <SubNet> ActionParsnip: Sadly not ...
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> SubNet: sorry then man
[13:20] <SubNet> ActionParsnip: Don't worry ;-)
[13:20] <superd-> horizontal lines (tearing)   .. anybody? anybody?
[13:21] <superd-> or know how to get rid of xrandr
[13:23] <B4S3M> how do i recover kubuntu after it crashes ?
[13:25] <superd-> how can i disable xrandr???
[13:25] <B4S3M> how do i recover kubuntu after it crashes ?
[13:26] <superd-> what do you mean after it crashes
[13:26] <superd-> what did you do
[13:27] <B4S3M> i just updated it to 8.04 ... then i ran it twice
[13:27] <superd-> ahhhhhh
[13:27] <superd-> un update hahaha
[13:27] <B4S3M> after that it gives me blank screen after finish loading the bar
[13:27] <superd-> updating has never ever worked for me
[13:27] <B4S3M> not updating
[13:27] <superd-> upgrading*
[13:27] <B4S3M> i tried to enable graphics acceleration
[13:27] <superd-> whatever
[13:27] <superd-> oh
[13:28] <B4S3M> and i screwed for the 5th time lol
[13:28] <B4S3M> how can i recover so :D
[13:28] <superd-> you need to recover data?
[13:28] <B4S3M> nooo
[13:28] <superd-> k
[13:28] <B4S3M> i want to run it back
[13:28] <B4S3M> using recover .conf
[13:28] <B4S3M> but i dun fully remember the command
[13:28] <superd-> you familiar with the console?
[13:29] <B4S3M> yea sure
[13:29] <superd-> you could check /etc/X11
[13:29] <superd-> for an older copy?
[13:29] <B4S3M> yea
[13:29] <superd-> xconf.org.###
[13:29] <B4S3M> then how i recover it ?
[13:30] <macic`at`work> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[13:30] <macic`at`work> np
[13:30] <superd-> you could also  try.. "sudo dpkg-reconfigure  xserver-xorg"
[13:30] <superd-> but if you cd into /etc/X11/ and do an ls xorg.conf*
[13:30] <superd-> you might see an older version .. you could mv oldfile xorg.conf
[13:32] <B4S3M> YESSSSSSSs
[13:32] <B4S3M> but tell me home to mooove the old one
[13:32] <B4S3M> i dun remember how exactly
[13:32] <superd-> mv oldfile xorg.conf
[13:32] <superd-> like oldfile = xorg.conf.####
[13:32] <superd-> mv xorg.conf.### xorg.conf
[13:32] <superd-> then alt-control  backspace to reload x
[13:33] <flaccid> that doesn't restart x
[13:33] <superd-> well it will reload the conf
[13:33] <superd-> which is good enough
[13:33] <superd-> now how do you disable xrandr??
[13:33] <flaccid> not necessarily
[13:33] <B4S3M> will giv a try
[13:33] <B4S3M> brb
[13:34] <flaccid> right way is log out to kdm and restart x from kdm dropdown
[13:34] <flaccid> which will restart kdm gracefully
[13:34] <superd-> good for you buddy, alt-control backspace will do what he wants
[13:34] <superd-> without having to explain all that
[13:35] <flaccid> and potentially break/loose configs/unsaved data. good for you buddy!
[13:35] <flaccid> oops the looser already left
[13:35] <Miles> o:
[13:39] <banex> hi
[13:39] <banex> speak czech ?
[13:39] <alexey> hey
[13:39] <alexey> nope
[13:39] <Pici> !cz
[13:40] <banex> sorry
[13:41] <banex> i have a small problem
[13:58] <khamael> is kde 4.1 in the standard repo?
[14:01] <flaccid> see tpic, khamael
[14:01] <flaccid> topic
[14:02] <khamael> ah. ok thanks
[14:03] <khamael> flaccid: is there a gpg key for it?
[14:04] <flaccid> khamael: can't remember, maybe not
[14:10] <emons> hello, anybody?
[14:10] <reidar> why wont kopete messanger auto log in and how do i make it log in at all?
[14:11] <sandro_> hello
[14:12] <emons> when i was watching movies with vlc in windows the volume was always ok, i decided it everytime and each time it was alright, now with vlc on linux some movies have a lower volume and even if i put up the volume from the speaker control i can barely here it, how do i fix that?
[14:12] <emons> *barely hear it :D
[14:15] <Assurbanipal> hi guys i have a problem. i must click on the title bar of a window to focus on it. how do i change it, so no matter where i click on a window kde focuses on it?
[14:16] <yousef> can someone help me, i can't intall ATI driver
[14:17] <yousef> ./ati-driver-installer-8-7-x86.x86_64.run
[14:17] <yousef> permissions denied
[14:17] <Assurbanipal> yousef: try downloading envyng
[14:17] <yousef> what is that
[14:18] <Assurbanipal> yousef: a program that automaticaly installs ati and nvidia drivers in linux
[14:18] <Assurbanipal> google for it
[14:19] <yousef> ok thanks
[14:20] <Bman87> Hi, I have a problem with the mouse. whatever the mouse cursor is over it will change focus to that window. I don't have to click, the focus just follows the mouse cursor.
[14:25] <mirtes> hello :)
[14:29] <marius> Hi, kubuntu live detects the wrong resolution and refreshrate, is there anyway to specify this on the boot prompt ?
[14:30] <nano_> hi!
[14:31] <nano_> some person to talk?
[14:35] <genii> Bman87: K-Button...System Settings...Window Behavior...Under "Focus" tab change the policy to "click to focus" (or whatever you like)
[14:36] <Bman87> genii: Thanks!
[14:36] <genii> Assurbanipal: Same place for you but change it the other way
[14:37] <genii> marius: If you mean for the resolution settings of the graphical system, no
[14:41] <marius> genii, the problem is that kde tries to start up using 1600*1200@85hz and the monitor does not support this, so I get a sync error from the monitor. what is the best way to deal with this?
[14:42] <genii> marius: To use modelines in the xorg.conf
[14:42] <Assurbanipal> genii: it still changes focus only when i click the title bar of the window
[14:43] <stas-a> Hello,  I've just installed kubuntu,  used to use Ubuntu .. And for some reason the Xorg is acting weird.
[14:43] <stas-a> I have Intel Mobile 965 .. "intel" driver I suppose.
[14:43] <stas-a> And X is somehow always autoconfigures to vesa
[14:43] <stas-a> no matter what i do
[14:43] <marius> genii any docs on how to 'compose' the right modlines and how to use them?
[14:44] <stas-a> Has anybody had a similiral problem .. where X is just slow and not using any Video hard extensions. .
[14:44] <genii> Assurbanipal: Try in that same setings window the tab called "window actions" it has there what mouse actions for each different area of the window
[14:44] <stas-a> I can't even find glxinfo
[14:49] <lebafar> how do I ask the bot in private ?
[14:49] <lebafar> !linux | lebafar
[14:52] <bazhang> lebafar, /msg ubottu keyword or info packagename or find related term
[14:53] <Assurbanipal> genii: it still doesn't work-the window isn't brought to the front when i click on it
[14:53] <lebafar> bazhang: ok, I got it, thank you ;)
[14:53] <Assurbanipal> genii: i am on kde 4.1 but had the same problem with 3.5.9
[14:53] <genii> Assurbanipal: Ah, Ask perhaps in #kubuntu-kde4
[14:54] <genii> lebafar:   /msg ubottu hi               then talk to him in the tab separate for him
[14:55] <genii> bazhang: Sorry didn't see your previous response along these lines :)
[14:55] <bazhang> genii, :)
[14:55] <lebafar> genii: cool ;)
[14:55] <lebafar> how do I set firefox as my default web browser in kubuntu ?
[14:56] <genii> marius: There used to be some tools called get-edid,read-edid and parse-edid which would do this but they may now be removed
[14:57] <genii> marius: If you know the settings your monitor can actually handle, then you can make manual additions to the xorg.conf file. google has many good results for something like modeline xorg.conf sample
[14:59] <genii> lebar: K-Button...System Settings... Default Applications...Web Browser (in second column) ...click off "in the following browser" then type into the window there:  firefox %u              save/apply this
[15:02] <lebafar> genii: yes. great. thank you!
[15:03] <genii> lebafar: Some applications can override this, like Konqueror for instance. It will decide what browser to open links in from it's own settings
[15:14] <gate_keeper_> does anyone here have some exprience with installing Audio device: Creative Labs [SB X-Fi Xtreme Audio] CA0110-IBG
[15:14] <gate_keeper_> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[15:15] <gate_keeper_> aplay: device_list:205: no soundcards found...
[15:15] <gate_keeper_> alsa drivers are installed
[15:15] <gate_keeper_> with module-assistant also ..
[15:26] <Nyad> hi. I just plugged a cellphone into my pc. on windows it detects the device's memory card and allows you to access it. How do I find out if ubuntu has detected it, I tried sudo fdisk -l  but it didn't come up
[15:45] <OsamaK> Hello! I'm using Ubuntu 8.04.1; I want to install KDE-4.1 on it; How to do so?
[15:45] <OsamaK> I think it is the best to go to #kubuntu-kde4
[15:49] <passione> nessuno dall'italia
[15:56] <BindO> help in configuring kdm, private if you wish, THANKS
[16:12] <Kipude> Is there any chance I can get a help here?
[16:12] <Tm_T> only if you tell what's the problem
[16:14] <manuel_> HOla
[16:14] <manuel_> ¿ALguien sabe como hacer funcionar mi webcam en kubuntu?
[16:14] <IppatsuMan> !es | manuel_
[16:15] <Kipude> Ok. My problem is, I have a problem with shortcuts with my Kubuntu
[16:15] <Kipude> I just installed it right now, and have problem with it
[16:15] <Kipude> Even the CTL+C\CTL+V doens't work at all.
[16:16] <cedric__> long live linux: no viruses/spyware or malware and no windows license that costs money: with mail, internet, gimp and open office you're ready to go :)
[16:16] <cedric__> what do you mean Kipude
[16:17] <Kipude> Lets say
[16:17] <Kipude> that If I want to copy something, I do "CTL+C", right?
[16:17] <Kipude> It doesn't work at all.
[16:17] <cedric__> i only have it few months
[16:18] <cedric__> but we much helps each other as mandela explained the ubuntu principles :)
[16:18] <Kipude> I canno't change my Language layout because of it. Every simple combination like copy \ paste doesn't work
[16:18] <cedric__> and then ctrl v
[16:18] <cedric__> sometimes I have this problem too
[16:18] <Kipude> listen
[16:18] <cedric__> thn I must use ctrl +c instead of the pop up copy
[16:18] <Kipude> I have read on the net
[16:18] <Kipude> that
[16:18] <Kipude> this is a problem with KDE
[16:18] <Kipude> A bug or whatever
[16:19] <cedric__> have you tried 4.1
[16:20] <Kipude> I use the 4.1
[16:20] <Kipude> I think so
[16:21] <Kipude> I have download it today
[16:21] <Kipude> the Kubuntu
[16:21] <Kipude> Maybe if I'll update the Kubuntu it may fix the problem?
[16:21] <maeva> yeah try
[16:22] <maeva> i like 4.1 less bugs then 4.0
[16:22] <Kipude> but,
[16:22] <Kipude> I have downloaded it today
[16:22] <Kipude> so
[16:22] <Kipude> I do have the 4.1
[16:22] <maeva> well
[16:22] <maeva> there is a guy in the dutch help channel who is helping me
[16:22] <maeva> but it seems not many people answer here :)
[16:23] <Kipude> I'm going to try to update it
[16:23] <Kipude> brb
[16:24] <Githzerai> maeva: KDE 4 support in #kubuntu-kde4
[16:24] <nyarla> if i install kubuntu 8.04.1 which kde version will I get?
[16:25] <maeva> is this gnome than?
[16:25] <Githzerai> nyarla: kde 3.5.9 or 4.0.3 if u got Kubuntu remix cd
[16:25] <maeva> nyarla: 8.04 is kde4.0 everything before is 3.5 i think
[16:25] <maeva> i heard 8.10 will support 4.1 officialy
[16:25] <mysteldark> hello
[16:25] <Githzerai> maeva: 8.04 is 3.5.9 or 4.3 if u have remix cd
[16:25] <nyarla> and upgrading kde from there is easy? is it a backport?
[16:26] <Githzerai> !kde4 |nyarla
[16:26] <maeva> nice bot :)
[16:26] <maeva> hi mysteldark
[16:27] <nyarla> i dont know what's a remix cd, just download the latest kubuntu from the main site
[16:27] <nyarla> !kde4
[16:27] <maeva> i use Konversation as irc client but there's also KSirc
[16:27] <Kipude> I'm here.
[16:28] <maeva> too bad is when I move file to my desktop it becomes a widget
[16:28] <maeva> i had to do lot of tweaking to make my webcam and 5.1 surround work
[16:28] <Githzerai> Kvirc is by far the best for KDE4 as it is based on Qt4, just not the one from repo but from Kvirc site
[16:28] <maeva> oh so it's better nice to know i'll use that one than
[16:28] <maeva> and x-chat ?
[16:29] <Githzerai> maeva: xchat is gtk app
[16:29] <maeva> ok
[16:38] <nyarla> ok i got the remix link, thanks for your help. Anyhow why is kubuntu 8.04 only supported until October 2009. I thought hardy was LTS...
[16:40] <Githzerai> nyarla: Kubuntu 8.04 is not LTS, due to KDE 4.  If second u dont need LTS. Anyway, if u just use KDE3, i guess u can count it as LTS edition, sort of :)
[16:47] <Githzerai> !es |chimbo
[16:50] <nyarla> i'd like to setup a partition for home separated from / on a small harddisk. According to you, which is the minimum space / should take to allow me to manage a kubuntu standard setup (office & internet usage mostly) and keep it updated as long as possible. Would 4 Go be enough?
[16:50] <KomiaPoika> hi
[16:50] <Githzerai> nyarla: HD size?
[16:51] <KomiaPoika> i have a kubuntu system on one hard drive, and a free separate physical hard drive. if i install windows on that second physical hard drive, how do i restore the grub loader to the first hard drive after?
[16:51] <nyarla> 40 Go, and i want /home as big as possible
[16:52] <Githzerai> nyarla: Well, I don't know waht u use your computer for, but at least 10 gb, 15 even better for /. Trust me, you'll need it (/temp folder is also on /, so if u extract iso image from dvd, it needs 5 gb space, for example )
[16:58] <spike_> uh problem with a dist-update  the distribution upgrade tool seems to have... frozen
[16:59] <spike_> Setting up locales (2.7.9-4) ...
[16:59] <spike_> Installing new version of config file /etc/belocs/iso-639.def ...
[16:59] <spike_> Generating locales...
[16:59] <spike_>   en_AU.UTF-8...
[16:59] <spike_> any ideas what to do about it (going from gusty to hardy)
[16:59] <spike_> 77% thru
[17:01] <spike_> (its got all the packages just got to finish installing them and clearing up)
[17:10] <spike_> hmmmm
[17:10] <spike_> ok I just wait then
[17:12] <kkangpae> what are you waiting for?
[17:12] <spike_> good question :)... something thats never going to happen
[17:12] <spike_> dist upgrade tool has frozen on me at 77% install
[17:12] <spike_> (it d/l'd all the pkgs) just gotta install and clean up
[17:13] <spike_> gutsy->hardy
[17:13] <kkangpae> ah
[17:13] <spike_> so what do I do? wait for it? or kill it?
[17:14] <kkangpae> how long has it been hung?
[17:14] <spike_> too long, about an hour now
[17:14] <spike_> (while I was busy web-browsing)
[17:14] <kkangpae> jeez bro, definitely kill it then
[17:14] <spike_> it doesnt seem to b doing anything
[17:14] <spike_> uh is it safe to kill it in the middle of a dist upgrade?
[17:15] <kkangpae> yeah
[17:15] <kkangpae> just start it again
[17:15] <spike_> ok how to recover upgrade?
[17:15] <spike_> ok kewl thx
[17:15] <spike_> that I can do :)
[17:15] <bazhang> spike_, is it configuring yet?
[17:16] <spike_> uh configuring? uh too late ot ask me now lol
[17:16] <bazhang> aha
[17:16] <spike_> installing I think
[17:17] <bazhang> if configuring, ie all dl'ing is finished, may be best to let it time out
[17:17] <spike_> yeah the dl did finish
[17:17] <spike_> there didn't seem to b a timeout
[17:17] <spike_> I've killed it now anyway
[17:18] <spike_> but dpkg is still locked :(
[17:18] <bazhang> spike_, you may try running it again; pastebin any errors to paste.ubuntu.com
[17:18] <spike_> ok
[17:18] <bazhang> spike_, what does it say? apt-get install -f ?
[17:19] <spike_> adept just tells me another process is using the packaging system database  (probably another Adept application or apt-get or aptitude) would you like to attempt to resolve this problem?
[17:19] <spike_> no will enter read-only mode, cancel to quitt and resolve this issue yourself.
[17:20] <bazhang> spike_, is add/remove or another such app open?
[17:20] <nzk> Okay, for some reason, occasionally my network connection goes out on my computer's side. The nm-applet tried to automatically reconnect, an exercise in futility. I have to restart my computer, but there's obviously a way that doesn't require that. Does anyone know how I would fix this problem?
[17:20] <spike_> yes
[17:20] <spike_> Kmenu -> system -> adept manager
[17:20] <bazhang> spike_, close them all and then open the one of your choice
[17:21] <spike_> there aren't any open..
[17:21] <spike_> is there a background process open or something?
[17:21] <spike_> was the dist upgrade tool so maybe adept kept it locked during that?
[17:21] <bazhang> spike_, what does sudo apt-get update return in the terminal (with adept closed)
[17:22] <spike_> (adept itself quits during the dist upgrade)
[17:22] <tsuna27> hi
[17:22] <Moes> My synaptic program has compiz,compiz-kde,compiz-gnome listed...Which should I be running on Kde 3.5 desktop
[17:22] <nejode> nzk: in konsole>> sudo ifdown ethX, and then>> sudo ifup ethX
[17:22] <spike_> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[17:22] <spike_> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[17:23] <tsuna27> i am trying 2 find this "settings:/LookNFeel/ in Konqueror"
[17:23] <tsuna27> but i can find it
[17:23] <bazhang> spike_, make sure adept/synaptic/add remove are all closed
[17:23] <nejode> spike_: did you try> sudo dpkg --configure -a ?
[17:23] <spike_> theres no windows open, how do I close ones that I can't see?
[17:24] <nzk> nejode: Well, according to the terminal, that interface isn't configured. I guess that'd be because I'm not using KDE.
[17:24] <spike_> no trying it now
[17:24] <bazhang> !aptfix
[17:24] <spike_> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[17:25] <bazhang> spike_, ^^
[17:25] <nejode> nzk: you have to substitute the "X" for the name of your network interface: eth0, eth1, etc...
[17:25] <spike_> ahh its continuing!
[17:25] <spike_> awesome
[17:25] <nzk> nejode: Oh, heh, my bad
[17:26] <spike_> just in a terminal instead of inside the dist upgrade tool
[17:26] <spike_> does that mean its not going to clean itself up?
[17:26] <nzk> nejode: Next time it goes down I'll try that.
[17:26] <bazhang> spike_, all your sources set to hardy?
[17:26] <spike_> the dist-upgrade tool should have done that for me already
[17:27] <spike_> says its updating sources as the second option, passed thru that and downloading the pkgs ok
[17:27] <bazhang> take a quick peek with cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:27] <spike_> uh oh... same thing... locales it hangs on
[17:28] <spike_> yeah sources is updated to hardy
[17:28] <bazhang> spike_, how about pastebinning that
[17:28] <spike_> Setting up locales (2.7.9-4) ...
[17:28] <spike_> Generating locales...
[17:28] <spike_>   en_AU.UTF-8...
[17:28] <bazhang> oy
[17:28] <spike_> then it hangs...
[17:28] <bazhang> to paste.ubuntu.com (sources.list)
[17:28] <spike_> oh ok
[17:29] <Moes> y synaptic program has compiz,compiz-kde,compiz-gnome listed...Which should I be running on Kde 3.5 desktop
[17:29] <bazhang> Moes, for compiz-fusion?
[17:30] <Moes> bazhang..compiz-fusion not listed
[17:30] <spike_> http://pastebin.ca/1089869
[17:31] <bazhang> Moes, compizconfig-settings-manager or simple-ccsm
[17:31] <bryan> #ubuntu-fr
[17:31] <spike_> and no not upgrading from feisty -> hardy if thats what u think...
[17:31] <spike_> they were commented out since last dist-upgrade
[17:31] <Moes> bazhang..Have installed cannot rotate cube
[17:31] <spike_> (I did the feisty->gutsy first, now gutsy->hardy)
[17:32] <bazhang> Moes, 3d drivers installed?
[17:32] <Moes> bazhang nope
[17:32] <bazhang> Moes, need that then
[17:33] <Moes> bazhang..Thanks will do
[17:33] <spike_> bazhang: http://pastebin.ca/1089869
[17:34] <bazhang> Moes, once that is done; then open ccsm and set virtual horizontal desktops to 4 (under general settings tab)
[17:34] <Moes> bazhang..Have already set that up
[17:35] <bazhang> spike_, was gutsy fully up to date when you did this?
[17:35] <spike_> yes
[17:36] <spike_> can I just delete the locales package and have it try again?
[17:36] <spike_> see if it downloads a fresh one incase it was damaged in transit or something?
[17:36] <bazhang> that seems very risky
[17:37] <rlaurie-> how do i switch to kde4 in heron?
[17:37] <bazhang> best to run the !aptfix command imo
[17:37] <bazhang> rlaurie-, which version of kde4
[17:38] <spike_> thats what I was doing tho bazhang
[17:38] <spike_> and it still hung on me :()
[17:38] <rlaurie-> bazhang: which ever version it shipped with i guess?
[17:38] <bazhang>  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a spike_ this one?
[17:38] <rlaurie-> looks like it defaults to kde3.5
[17:39] <rlaurie-> i don't remember seeing an option to run 4
[17:39] <bazhang> rlaurie-, you seen the /topic yet?
[17:39] <rlaurie-> hmm
[17:39] <rlaurie-> k
[17:39] <bazhang> rlaurie-, for the non 4.1 there is sudo apt-get install kubuntu-kde4-desktop ; for the 4.1 check #kubuntu-kde4
[17:40] <bazhang> or the kubuntu home page
[17:40] <spike_> yes bazhang that one
[17:40] <spike_> its still trying to set up locales and hanging there
[17:40] <spike_> tried it like 5 times now lol
[17:40] <bazhang> spike_, that may take a while; has done so here before
[17:41] <spike_> how long is a while?
[17:41] <bazhang> depends on the box
[17:41] <spike_> it doesn't appear to be doing anything at all
[17:41] <spike_> ok I'll wait till you ask me then
[17:42] <bazhang> last time was an hour?
[17:42] <spike_> (1 hr is too long right?)
[17:42] <spike_> last time I left it go yes
[17:42] <bazhang> yeah
[17:42] <spike_> first time it hung was 1 hr approx
[17:42] <bazhang> unless you have a P2
[17:42] <spike_> no
[17:42] <bazhang> :)
[17:43] <spike_> p4 lga775 processor
[17:43] <spike_> (EMT64 one) not dualcore tho
[17:43] <bazhang> subsequent times also that long?
[17:43] <spike_> I must confess I havn't left it for an hour
[17:44] <spike_> but its been running since I asked you to tell me how long to wait
[17:44] <spike_> and still nothing
[17:44] <bazhang> what does top in terminal report
[17:44] <spike_> but thats only like 3 mins ago?
[17:45] <emons> hello, anyone?
[17:45] <spike_> uh localdef? is that the command?
[17:45] <spike_> using 100% CPU :(
[17:45] <bazhang> emons, what is the issue
[17:46] <bazhang> spike_, give it a few more minutes at least
[17:46] <spike_> ok ...
[17:46] <spike_> will wait
[17:46] <spike_> (still don't think its goina work)
[17:46] <bazhang> doing that on my eeepc took ages btw
[17:47] <spike_> how long is ages?
[17:47] <bazhang> 45 mins
[17:47] <spike_> oh ok
[17:48] <spike_> well it was longer here but I guess this cpu isn't as good as eeepc
[17:48] <bazhang> what does lsb_release -a say spike_
[17:48] <spike_> I wish it had something to tell you it was still doing something
[17:48] <emons> hi bazhang, i tried to install the nvidia drivers by following the procedure on the nvidia website and also the one on the kubuntu website, but nothing to do... i got to a point that i had to re-install kubuntu because i was seeing everything "gigantic" (resolution 600 x 400) and it was the only one present in the list, no other resolutions to choose...
[17:48] <spike_> No LSB modules are available.
[17:48] <spike_> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[17:48] <spike_> Description:    Ubuntu 8.04.1
[17:48] <spike_> Release:        8.04
[17:48] <spike_> Codename:       hardy
[17:49] <bazhang> spike_, it seems you have hardy
[17:49] <spike_> hehe prolly coz at least some of the upgrade has gone thru
[17:49] <spike_> baz it was 77% thru
[17:50] <spike_> only had 33% to go
[17:50] <bazhang> spike_, apart from this, any other glitches?
[17:50] <spike_> sofar? I havn't restarted yet
[17:50] <bazhang> 77+33=?
[17:50] <bazhang> spike_, what about running firefox, flash etc
[17:51] <spike_> I don't have firefox
[17:51] <spike_> but konqui is working
[17:51] <bazhang> or konqueror
[17:51] <spike_> (but had that runing since before the u/g)
[17:51] <spike_> (at least I think might be a second instance since then... )
[17:52] <bazhang> spike_, what does uname -r say in terminal
[17:52] <bazhang> emons, this is hardy right?
[17:52] <emons> yes
[17:52] <spike_> 2.6.22-15-generic
[17:52] <emons> kubuntu hardy with kde
[17:53] <bazhang> emons, mind pastebinning your xorg.conf to paste.ubuntu.com ?
[17:54] <bazhang> spike_, that is the gutsy kernel
[17:54] <spike_> like I said it was only 77% thru lol
[17:54] <bazhang> spike_, have everything backed up?
[17:54] <spike_> the pc doesn't even seem to be working.. thats why I thought it was hung
[17:55] <spike_> uh no... but I could start from scratch, just a pain reupgrading from feisty thats all
[17:55] <emons> sorry bazhang im a newbie how do i open xorg.conf? what's the command on terminal?
[17:55] <spike_> taken me so long to get this far
[17:55] <bazhang> spike_, was not suggesting that you start from scratch
[17:55] <spike_> well essentially theres no data to lose
[17:56] <bazhang> emons, cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf and pastebin
[17:56] <emons> is it like kdesudo kate xorg.conf ?
[17:56] <spike_> no personal files at least
[17:56] <Githzerai> emons: sudo kwrite /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:56] <bazhang> emons, ie not here
[17:56] <emons> in pastebin i no
[17:56] <bazhang> Githzerai, kdesu for gui apps
[17:57] <Githzerai> bazhang: yes, I misstyped ;)
[17:57] <emons> when i typed this command it says
[17:57] <emons> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-emons" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[17:57] <emons> Error: "/tmp/kde-emons" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[17:57] <bazhang> emons, no need to open with text editor; just cat and copy
[17:57] <bazhang> Githzerai, thought as much :)
[17:58] <emons> http://pastebin.com/m6135807a here it is anyway
[17:59] <spike_> shouldn't this process have a progress bar or something?
[17:59] <bazhang> emons, what video card model
[17:59] <emons> geforce 9600 gt 512 mb ram
[17:59] <spike_> if its going to take that long it should at least let you know its still working
[17:59] <emons> screen is a LG Flatron L192WS
[18:00] <bazhang> spike_, good point
[18:00] <spike_> kewl konversation has an internal konsole! wow I never noticed that before
[18:02] <spike_> its still hanging.... but still lotsa time left to go I guess
[18:02] <spike_> (I really didn't expect this one to take so damn long)
[18:04] <spike_> started aat around timestamp of 2:40 and its now timestamp 3:03
[18:04] <Nyad> hi. I just plugged a cellphone into my pc. on windows it detects the device's memory card and allows you to access it. How do I find out if ubuntu has detected it, I tried sudo fdisk -l  but it didn't come up
[18:05] <bazhang> spike_, just checking launchpad for a bug on that
[18:05] <spike_> uh memory cards in windows generally show up as either removable storage or network drives... right?
[18:05] <bazhang> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/langpack-locales/+bug/249340
[18:05] <spike_> ahh :) so whats it say to do about it?
[18:06] <cedric_> with my photo machine ubuntu detects it automatically with a removable drive icon on my desktp nyad
[18:06] <spike_> kewl
[18:06] <emons> bazhang: hello? you there?
[18:07] <Nyad> It didn't do it on my pc
[18:07] <maeva> did you try google
[18:07] <_CrashMaster_> Nyad:  Your phone is USB, yes?
[18:08] <spike_> I guess I need to use: sudo killall locale-gen
[18:08] <spike_> hmmm that kinda worked its continuing setting up at least
[18:09] <bazhang> emons, yes
[18:09] <Nyad> _CrashMaster_: yes
[18:10] <_CrashMaster_> Nyad: Plug it in, wait about 10 seconds, and then run "lsusb" from a terminal.
[18:10] <_CrashMaster_> That'll display all active USB devices that the kernel can see
[18:10] <dario_> hey anyone in here know any codecs i can install to get Amarok to play purchased itunes music from my days as a microsoft slave?
[18:11] <bazhang> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/langpack-locales/+bug/249340/comments/38 spike_ see this one
[18:12] <spike_> hmmm its continuing... but gives me lotsa perl warnings about locale not being set
[18:12] <Nyad> _CrashMaster_: yes it sees it, how do I find the device location so I can mount it?
[18:12] <dario_> hey anyone in here know any codecs i can install to get Amarok to play purchased itunes music from my days as a microsoft slave?
[18:12] <maeva> goo d luck spike, I deleted my windows to learn it more quickly
[18:12] <bazhang> spike_, you need to reboot then choose the 14 kernel and follow the rest of the instructions at that link above ^^
[18:12] <emons> bazhang: i told u my video card model now what?
[18:12] <spike_> kinda too late for that
[18:13] <bazhang> emons, you installed from two separate sources?
[18:13] <emons> mmm what u mean?
[18:14] <bazhang> !nvidia
[18:14] <bazhang> emons, ^^
[18:16] <emons> yes i told u i already followed both guides, the first time the one on the nvidia website and it didnt work the second time the one u pasted and it didnt work, it's been really bad, i couldnt get back to the previous settings so i had to re-install kubuntu. now nothing is installed and im asking help here how to do
[18:16] <spike_> ok apparently the REAL way to fix it is by setting ARCHIVE=yes in /etc/belocs/locale-gen.conf
[18:17] <kr00l> how do i get themes to work in kde?
[18:18] <richard_> does anyone here use kopete?
[18:18] <emons> i do richard
[18:18] <richard_> could you do me a favour emons?
[18:18] <emons> lets c
[18:19] <richard_> on the configure plugins > translator plugin, have you got any service other than google?
[18:19] <richard_> also, does the translator actually work for you?
[18:19] <emons> no other google apart
[18:19] <emons> it doesn work :D
[18:20] <spike_> oh ok wait I was hasty, that doesn't work either
[18:20] <richard_> lol
[18:20] <richard_> did it ever work?
[18:20] <emons> never tried
[18:20] <emons> i dont need a translator
[18:20] <emons> what du need it for by the way?
[18:21] <richard_> i dont - I was just intrigued by it
[18:21] <emons> lol
[18:21] <spike_> hmmm
[18:21] <emons> gotta go now
[18:21] <emons> c u
[18:22] <maeva> best is to buy a pc that supports linux before buying the pc, like dell does
[18:23] <Nyad> _CrashMaster_: you there?
[18:23] <_CrashMaster_> hm?
[18:23] <_CrashMaster_> what did I do now?
[18:23] <Nyad> it sees it, how do I find the device location so I can mount it?
[18:24] <_CrashMaster_> *blink* haven't the foggiest. I was just checking  the preliminaries.
[18:24] <Nyad> ok
[18:27] <Nyad> how do I mount a usb cellphone? I used lsusb to show me this : Bus 001 Device 009: ID 22b8:4810 Motorola PCS Triplet GSM Phone (storage)
[18:27] <tsuna27> what is the best way to install compiz-fusion on kubuntu
[18:28] <tsuna27> I want to do that cube thing
[18:28] <maeva> true synaptic i think its possible
[18:28] <maeva> nice program indeed
[18:28] <maeva> download live cd and install
[18:28] <tsuna27> ?
[18:28] <maeva> nyad: type mount usb cell phone linux in google
[18:30] <Githzerai> tsuna27: just type: sudo apt-get install compiz-kde
[18:30] <maeva> tsuna27: i think sudo apt-get -y remove compiz-core desktop-effects
[18:31] <tsuna27> thats all
[18:31] <tsuna27> then i can do the cube thing
[18:31] <maeva> it's jut a program for desktop effects like you see on youtube to impress people
[18:31] <maeva> yes the cube thing lol
[18:31] <Githzerai> maeva: He want's to instal not remove ??????
[18:31] <tsuna27> thats what i want to do
[18:31] <ctw> Hi! I am having some trouble configuring a dual monitor setup for my laptop (Lenovo Thinkpad T61) and an external 19'' Lenovo L201p monitor on my hardy system.
[18:31] <ctw> Can anybody here help?
[18:32] <ctw> I've had it running with a different laptop running feisty.
[18:32] <ctw> But I can't seem to adapt the xorg file correctly
[18:32] <ctw> both laptops have intel graphics chip
[18:33] <Githzerai> ctw: system settings - monitor and display
[18:33] <nejode> Nyad: moto4lin in synaptic, adept or apt-get
[18:33] <ctw> Githzerai: that doesn't work for me either
[18:33] <wishie> im trying to figure out the best "power saver" manager for kubuntu.. but all i can find are "power manager" and "kpowersave" butg both seem to have issues.
[18:33] <maeva> Githzerai: yeah you'right i've found it here http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-Compiz-Fusion-on-Ubuntu-58113.shtml
[18:34] <tsuna27> what does "sudo apt-get -y remove compiz-core desktop-effects" do
[18:34] <wishie> tsuna27: removes compiz and desktop-effects :P
[18:34] <tsuna27> i dont want that
[18:34] <Githzerai> ctw: Just set two different monitors in there, an u have to restart x so it can work ;)
[18:34] <tsuna27> how do u do the cube thing
[18:35] <maeva> i like frostwire it's just like limewire a application but completly open source and it has .deb extension for easy install
[18:35] <Githzerai> tsuna27: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[18:35] <maeva> tsuna27: cube thing is option once you installed program
[18:36] <maeva> tsuna27: type in your console sudo apt-get install compiz-kde and start compiz program
[18:36] <Githzerai> maeva: He already done that, so... ;0
[18:36] <Githzerai> ;)
[18:37] <tsuna27> wher is the compiz program
[18:37] <bazhang> !ccsm
[18:37] <bryan> #ubuntu-fr
[18:38]  * nejode está ausente: Ausente por ahora.
[18:39] <wishie> any know fix for kaffeine not playing ogg/vorbis audio in mkv files ?
[18:42] <afeijo> how can I capture the audio of a youtube video?
[18:43] <ctw> Hi! I just asked about a dual monitor setup on Hardy. I forgot the screen name of the person who suggested I try out the sytem settings.
[18:43] <ctw> I had unsucessfully tried it in the past and just gave it another try
[18:43] <ctw> but it still doesn't work
[18:43] <ctw> with KDE 3 I can't select the 2nd monitor option, even after entering administrator mode
[18:44] <ctw> with KDE4, I can select that option, but the result is not as desired (cloned screens with part of the display cut out for the smaller screen
[18:45] <ctw> any idea?
[18:46] <tsuna27> how do i use the cube
[18:49] <Githzerai> tsuna27: compiz --replace
[18:51] <tsuna27> ?
[18:51] <tsuna27> what do i press?
[18:53] <wishie> ctrl+alt+ left/right arrows
[18:53] <wishie> if the cube is enabled
[18:53] <wishie> which i dont think it is by default
[18:53] <wishie> any known fix for kaffeine not playing ogg/vorbis audio in mkv files ?
[18:53] <tsuna27> thats was cool
[18:54] <ctw> does anybody  here know how to make the 2nd screen option accessible in the system settings "monitor & display" dialog?
[18:55] <wishie> man, who on earth is responsible for the CRAP version of kaffeine in kubuntu ?
[18:55] <wishie> what is the deal with the "codec package" message all the time ? and no ogg/vorbis support in mkv files ?
[18:56] <tsuna27> i dont have a cube im just fliping btw screens
[18:56] <wishie> left/right ?
[18:56] <wishie> or one screen flipping sides ?
[18:57] <tsuna27> no like i dont c the cube
[18:57] <wishie> check to make sure the cube is enabled
[18:57] <wishie> and "rotate cube" is enabled
[18:57] <tsuna27> it is
[18:57] <wishie> then go to "general settings" and make sure you have 4 sides
[19:00] <tsuna27> i did
[19:00] <tsuna27> but its flippin not cubin
[19:04] <tsuna27> k how do i switch back now
[19:04] <tsuna27> i want 2 keep copiz bu i dont want 2 use it  now
[19:05] <tsuna27> the other settings i had were better
[19:06] <bazhang> tsuna27, shut off compiz now?
[19:06] <bazhang> tsuna27, alt f2 kwin --replace
[19:06] <tsuna27> k thx
[19:08]  * nejode volvió.
[19:14] <timo_> anyone know what architecture to choose when setting up Apt-Build for a Centrino Duo processor? (its Dual Core.)
[19:14] <wishie> i use nocona or whatever in gentoo
[19:14] <wishie> and all amd64 stuff set
[19:16] <timo_> hm. but this one is intel 32bit.. or that fits just fine?
[19:17] <wishie> eh ? what cpu do you have ?
[19:17] <wishie> and what version of ubuntu installed ?
[19:18] <timo_> Intel Centrino Duo. -its a intel core duo for laptops. T245 to be exact. and trying to learn Kubuntu =)
[19:19] <wishie> hmm, core duo, as opposed to the core2
[19:20] <wishie> not sure if the original core arch was 64bit or not
[19:20] <wishie> ive got a Centrino Core2Duo here
[19:21] <timo_> Google tells me msot Core2Duo is 64bit, and CoreDuo is the cheap version with 32 bit. but none say what that translates to in terms like Apt-Build uses.
[19:23] <tsuna27> how do i download kfmclient
[19:24] <wishie> tsuna27: its in the 'konqueror' package
[19:24] <tsuna27> so i already have it
[19:24] <wishie> most probably
[19:25] <tsuna27> i cant use kopete
[19:25] <tsuna27> it wont let me log on
[19:25] <wishie> hmm, works here. no problems
[19:25] <tsuna27> it says my password is wrong when i tried it on XP it worked
[19:29] <tsuna27> any1?
[19:33] <wishie> i need a way to test some intrepid packages for kaffeine, as the hardy ones suck.
[19:37] <richard> hi - i have the 'normal' kubuntu hardy, but ive just installed kde4 - how can I switch between kde3 and 4?
[19:38] <wishie> at the login screen
[19:38] <wishie> choose a different session type
[19:39] <richard> cool, thank wishie
[19:39] <wishie> kde4 will be in the list
[19:39] <richard> thanks*
[19:39] <wishie> in hardy it uses .kde4 for settings, and .kde for kde3 settings
[19:39] <wishie> this changes in intrepid
[19:40] <wishie> i cant believe there are not more reports of kaffeine being buggy in hardy..
[19:40] <richard> im just mucking around - this pc isnt good enough for compiz, so im not convinced kde4 will work
[19:40] <daemon3> Is anyone else having a problem with Konqueror today?  There's a memory leak or something, because it freezes my system and takes up about 75% of my 1G of memory.
[19:45] <wishie> fine, im installing intrepid stuff the evil way (tricking apt for the moment)
[19:45] <wishie> im sure this will come back to bite me
[19:46] <rww> How do I make KDE run something on startup? I know how to do it in GNOME with !autostart, but forgot the KDE way
[19:46] <wishie> ~.kde/Autostart i think
[19:47] <wishie> symlink what you want to start, in there
[19:47] <rww> I want to run xmodmap ~/.xmodmap-`uname -n`.  Thanks a lot :)
[20:06] <wishie> no worries
[20:09] <richard> wishie - if you use kde4, do you know how to move the things around in the bar at the bottom? I accidentally removed the kmenu button and when i re-added it its gone back on hte right instead of the left
[20:10] <wishie> richard: i used it for about 5 minutes :)
[20:10] <wishie> sorry
[20:10] <richard> ah, nevermind - thanks anyway
[20:16] <daemon3> exit
[20:18] <ephracis> funny: the du command gives me that root is 2,5 Gb but df says that the partition mounted on root takes 100% of the 10 Gb disk.
[20:18] <ephracis> getting really hard to do anything on that machine right now..
[20:19] <ephracis> any ideas?
[20:30] <nikolas> hey everybody...can someone help me through with some issues i am having with kde 4.1?
[20:34] <stu> wie ist der channel für ubuntu germany
[20:34] <stu> ?
[20:34] <stu> achso abend @all
[20:34] <emilsedgh> !de | stu
[20:35] <emilsedgh> nikolas: #kubuntu-kde4
[20:35] <nikolas> emilsedgh: tnx mate
[20:35] <stu> thx
[20:48] <Tonren> NetworkManager is requesting an encryption passkey even though the network I'm trying to connect to isn't encrypted.  Any hints? Atheros AR242x card, using ndiswrapper.  Had the same problem with madwifi.
[20:54] <nuxil> Tonren, thats sounds strange,, but you can connect fine ?
[20:57] <Tonren> nuxil: Can't connect, because it won't connect without a key.
[20:59] <nuxil> Tonren, iwconfig ethX essid YOUNET   try that and run sudo tcpdum -i ethx in another shell and see if it tryes to assosiat with your router
[21:00] <nuxil> * tcpdump
[21:09] <alfii>  hello?
[21:09] <genii> !hi
[21:11] <alfii> somebodie???
[21:11] <alfii> plzz
[21:11] <alfii> add to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>im chilean!!
[21:11] <alfii> add to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>im chilean!!
[21:11] <alfii> add to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>im chilean!!
[21:12] <alfii> its any girl here??
[21:12] <alfii> hay alguna chica aqui?
[21:12] <buckethead> go away.
[21:13] <HackerPizza> Urgh.. My input just quit on me
[21:14] <JoshOvki> buckethead: that was not very nice!  your ment to say   go away NOW please :P
[21:14] <HackerPizza> I was playing around in Jack and hit disconnect all..  Session Manager ...On Login   choose here "start with an empty session"
[21:17] <buckethead> windows is oonly "easier" because more people have more history with it.
[21:17] <HackerPizza> Windows was easier because you used it for a long time
[21:17] <genii> yacc: Then save/apply
[21:17] <yacc> HackerPizza, well, it still starts some programs that I clearly do not have running when logging out.
[21:18] <HackerPizza> yacc: What Genii said
[21:18] <buckethead> I started futzing  with dos  before windows was common ANYWHERE. If I came up in *nix, I would know that.
[21:18] <yacc> genii, how does one save manually a session *wonder*
[21:18] <genii> yacc: Don't know, never bothered
[21:19] <yacc> buckethead, Windows is "easier" because it comes preinstalled.
[21:19] <alfii> but , only a example .... to install a aplication i hve to go to "gestor de aplicaciones" and find the aplication....
[21:19] <yacc> buckethead, watch a Power Windows user buying a new laptop, because the recovery CDs that came with the old laptop have bad drivers :-P
[21:20] <Tonren> nuxil: What will tcpdump's output tell us...?
[21:20] <buckethead> I find it refreshing to have most of the apps I might go looking for in a central location where I can easily find them.
[21:20] <HackerPizza> yacc: Try installing Windows sometime..
[21:20] <buckethead> I make my own recovery CDs.  Without all the excitement, I managed to install a stable WinXP on that laptop, but it took me a day to install driver-by-driver ;)
[21:21] <JoshOvki> buckethead: i usually call that windows
[21:21] <yacc> HackerPizza, I do know, Linux has been easier to install for decade now ;)
[21:21] <alfii> yacc pleasse help me by a private conversation!
[21:22] <yacc> HackerPizza, all the early whinings about Linux being so hard to install came usually from people who never tried to install that quality OS from Washington state ;)
[21:22] <HackerPizza> Baha
[21:22] <timo_> I miss windows v. 1.03. only thing working was the Open New window button. :P
[21:23] <buckethead> This is only my third or fourth linux install for me. It was much more a pain for me. I like what I see however and i'm willing to learn it and figure it out.
[21:24] <genii> With linux you generally need to roll up your sleeves and do some work to see it's real power
[21:25] <my> Galera alguém usa o postgresql?
[21:26] <HackerPizza> genii; As opposed to wading knee deep in sewage to find Windows true power?
[21:27] <genii> HackerPizza: I may not have put it so eloquently but sure
[21:29] <my> someone uses the data danco postgresql.
[21:29] <nuxil> Tonren, is pacet dumper which dumps packs on spesified interface.. look for bootpc <IP_ADDRESS> icmp dhcp offer and stuff like that
[21:31] <HackerPizza> How would I go about resurrecting ALSAs input after accidentally killing it?
[21:38] <sam__> sdjijm
[21:38] <sam__> kr ondas
[21:38] <sam__> saludos
[21:38] <sam__> de mex
[21:39] <sam__chamo> hola
[21:39] <sam__chamo> peer
[21:39] <sam__chamo> hola
[21:40] <sam__chamo> sale se cuidan
[21:40] <sam__chamo> DTB a todos
[21:40] <sam__chamo> chao
[21:41] <sam__chamo>                                se cuidan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[21:44] <birnisson> hi, how do I watch apple trailers in firefox
[21:47] <OutoLumo> birnisson, try installing mozilla-mplayer
[21:48] <OutoLumo> birnisson, it might be in medibuntu repos, I dunno...
[21:48] <birnisson> OutoLumo: ok tnx
[21:55] <yacc> Where in kubuntu is the restricted driver utility?
[22:06] <antonia> hey guygs, i'm having a horrible time getting compiz to run on my friends computer
[22:07] <benjamin_> kde 3 or 4?
[22:07] <antonia> kde 3
[22:07] <antonia> so far, all i can get is a white screen
[22:07] <benjamin_> good, it tends to cause problems on 4
[22:08] <antonia> she has a radeon mobility X1400 and i'm using the default fglrx drivers in the repo's