[10:22] <treitter> squee: do you know which interface name it has? (like "eth1" or "ath0")
[10:22] <jbmigel> squee try dmesg | grep wlan0
[10:22] <Agni> but my X wont restart .. it juist keeps trying to get into my gui mode over and over
[10:22] <squee> eth1
[10:23] <noname_> can ubuntu restore?
[10:23] <Arcad3> does anyone knows how to http://example.com to work like www.example.com?
[10:23] <Arcad3> *make
[10:23] <treitter> squee: or "dmesg | grep -i wireless"
[10:23] <pschulz01> noname_: How do you mean?
[10:23] <squee> jbmigel: i used eth1 instead but it spat out a whole bunch of things like "device eth1 entered promiscuous mode" and that it left it
[10:24] <treitter> squee: and try replacing 'wireless' with '802.11' in that chain
[10:24] <abhinay> eventhough i change the fonts, nothing happens, anybody help plz ?
[10:24] <noname_> i want to restore
[10:24] <jbmigel> noname_ did you backup?
[10:25] <noname_> yes
[10:25] <noname_> how i do?
[10:25] <squee> "ipw2200: Detected Intel PRO/Wireless 2915ABG Network Connection"
[10:25] <Agni> sorry to be a pain folks, but any gurus around?
[10:25] <jbmigel> noname_ what did you use for backup
[10:25] <rogue_boy> brb
[10:26] <Agni> i am having difficulties with my X
[10:26] <KurtKraut> Agni, have you tried to ask for help thru ubuntuforums.org ? It might be easier than repeating over and over again here.
[10:26] <noname_> i install kubuntu but i dont like it
[10:26] <Agni> yes :(
[10:26] <Agni> i have spent almost a day trolling through posts
[10:26] <Lynoure> noname_: Then remove it?
[10:26] <noname_> how?
[10:27] <Arcad3> Agni sudo-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:27] <Agni> KurtKraut, the strange thing is that it starts when i run startx in restore mode
[10:27] <Lynoure> noname_: singleboot or dualboot?
[10:27] <noname_> single
[10:27] <KurtKraut> Agni, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as Arcad3 tried to mention
[10:27] <Agni> ok, will try and be back
[10:27] <Lynoure> noname_: by installing something you like, then
[10:28] <Lynoure> noname_: no special things to it, if there is nothing in it you want to keep
[10:29] <mtholdenss> when edgy is released is upgrading easy?
[10:29] <mtholdenss> will it auto ask if we want to upgrade?
[10:29] <jbmigel> apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:29] <KurtKraut> mtholdenss, yes
[10:30] <mtholdenss> so it will auto ask?
[10:30] <livingdaylight> Can someone help me reinstall Grub? I've got two satas. Ubuntu on sda and Zenwalk which i installed yesterday on sdb. Howver, i can't access ubuntu on sda now. Looks like Lilo has killed Grub. I want help reinstalling Grub and deleting Lilo
[10:30] <noname_> i just to know can xserever do like xp
[10:30] <KurtKraut> mtholdenss, I can't remeber for sure but a single command will make him notice that is a new version and will manage everything to you thru windows
[10:30] <Schalken> livingdaylight: i would also like to know the answer to your question for the purpose of reinstalling windows :P
[10:32] <livingdaylight> administrator: hi, i really do have a question this time for you :-P
[10:33] <jbmigel> mtholdenss /sbin/grub-install /dev/sda
[10:33] <Lynoure> noname_: Ask again? (If that was a question)
[10:33] <jbmigel> mtholdenss sudo even
[10:33] <Flannel> livingdaylight: help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[10:34] <mtholdenss> jbmigel what u mean?
[10:34] <noname_> can i restore my system?
[10:34] <livingdaylight> Flannel: this would be after installing Zenwalk, but the same applies, yea? Can i have the url please?
[10:34] <mtholdenss> why would u want to restore your system? what happened?
[10:34] <SV452> how can i have a diff pic as backgroun for each desktop?
[10:35] <KurtKraut> SV452, thru gnome ? you cant
[10:35] <jbmigel> mtholdenss at command line type "man grub-install"
[10:35] <marcel__> i got a sound problem normally my sound works just fine but from time to time i have no sound (i can solve this by rebooting) does anyone know what the problem might be?
[10:35] <Flannel> livingdaylight: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows  -- yeah, obviously not the windows specific stuff.
[10:35] <mtholdenss> jbmigel what would that do?
[10:35] <SV452> noooooooo -
[10:35] <KurtKraut> SV452, there is a app that will change the current desktop when you change from workplace
[10:35] <SV452> tell more
[10:35] <jbmigel> mtholdenss it will display the man page for the grub-install program
[10:35] <mtholdenss> y cant u do that in gnome , have diff wallpaper for diff workspace, what about on a certain timer change wallapaper?
[10:36] <Arinomi> Hi all \o I am kinda new to having other OS than Windows, so I am a bit unsure.. do I need to uninstall Windows XP to get this to work?
[10:36] <KurtKraut> SV452, it may create the effect you want but it still a 'hack'. It wont be good in a weak machine
[10:36] <SV452> u can do that
[10:36] <SV452> hmmmm
[10:36] <foo> I do xterm -bg black -fg white and I get: Color name "black" is not defined. Any ideas?
[10:36] <SV452> i'll give it a try
[10:36] <SV452> i remember kde u can do the diff background thing ?
[10:36] <jbmigel> Arinomi you dont need to remove windows.
[10:36] <piratepenguin> what the hell password am I supposed to enter in localhost:631 to add my HP printer?
[10:36] <Flannel> !tell Arinomi about dualboot
[10:36] <KurtKraut> Arinomi, no. You cant keep what we call dual boot. When you install Ubuntu he will notice Windows imediately and when you turn you computer it will ask what system I want to start
[10:36] <mtholdenss> so how can u chang wallpaper on a timer basis?
[10:36] <mtholdenss> in gnome
[10:37] <marcel__> my sound doesnt work anymore could someone help me?
[10:37] <marcel__> !sound
[10:37] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[10:37] <SV452> i used to have a proggy for that
[10:37] <SV452> i used it when i used slackware
[10:37] <KurtKraut> SV452, I cant say about KDE. I'm a Gnome fan :P But I miss that feature too.
[10:38] <Marki> hey, i found the solution to my problem on a forum and now i just want to know how to do it!
[10:38] <SV452> i know kde used to do it cause i used kde for sometime before i discovered the pleasure of gnome and even more so the pleasure of dropline gnome for slackware
[10:38] <CorpseFeeder> bohemian: I can't find that #sajdsewhatever channel in the channel list
[10:38] <foo> I do xterm -bg black -fg white and I get: Color name "black" is not defined. Any ideas?
[10:38] <RMorris85> jbmigel: hey is it possible to make a fat32 partition to move my files to then make my windows a fat32 also?
[10:38] <Marki> I figured out my problem. I didn't format my home partition and it kept all my setting from before the upgrade and something in there was conflicting with the upgraded version. I simply created a new user, logged in with them and copied its settings over to my old user
[10:39] <BHSPitLappy> CorpseFeeder, #sajdhf
[10:40] <jbmigel> RMorris85 the only way i can see that working is if you reinstall windows as fat32, then put on linux whereever you like
[10:40] <CorpseFeeder> thanks
[10:41] <foo> I do xterm -bg black -fg white and I get: Color name "black" is not defined. Any ideas?
[10:41] <foo> whoops
[10:41] <RMorris85> jbmigel: i have to partitions right now and on the one windows is on i have like 10 gig free and i wanna to make a 3 gig fat32 for holding files for now with some of that room, then delete my windows partition, then make it a fat32 is that possible?
[10:42] <RMorris85> two*
[10:42] <Marki> how do i disable all my proxy settings globally?
[10:42] <KurtKraut> Arinomi, how big is your RAM ?
[10:42] <Arinomi> 1g
[10:42] <jbmigel> mtholdenss it will display the man page for the grub-ins
[10:43] <KurtKraut> Arinomi, do you intend to install it over a PC or a Mac ?
[10:43] <Arinomi> PC
[10:43] <KurtKraut> Arinomi, download de Desktop CD
[10:43] <Arinomi> Okey. Thanks
[10:43] <KurtKraut> Arinomi, www.ubuntu.com
[10:43] <error> hello
[10:43] <KurtKraut> Arinomi, www.ubuntu.com/download (sorry)
[10:43] <KurtKraut> Arinomi, Desktop CD for i386 actually
[10:43] <jbmigel> RMorris85 ah i see what your getting at... I think you can cheat to accomplish that... try running the ubuntu installer again and tell it to use part (3gb) of your windows drive and it will fix it
[10:44] <Arinomi> KurtKraut, I downloaded it last night :)
[10:44] <jbmigel> RMorris85 then reformat that new partiton as fat32
[10:44] <RMorris85> with the live cd correct?
[10:44] <KurtKraut> Arinomi, so just burn the image (not the file itself)  to a CD
[10:44] <KurtKraut> Arinomi, and reboot your PC
[10:45] <Boglizk> I cant get the artwiz fonts to work.. :/
[10:45] <Arinomi> KurtKraut, will do.
[10:45] <jbmigel> RMorris85 yes, another way would be to boot into windows and use partitionmagic to resize windows and create a fat disk
[10:46] <kklaine> Help! My nvidia driver stopped working and if I try to use the nv setting gdm system totally crashes in less than a minute :(
[10:46] <Netcad> how to configure vhost based named dir?
[10:46] <RMorris85> jbmigel: boot into windows, har har har. id rather use the live cd... just use the disk manager correct? then just boot back out and i should have 3 drives correct?
[10:48] <Arcad3> pls help
[10:48] <jbmigel> RMorris85 yes if you tell it to install using part of your windows drive it should resize it for you... then you will have 3 and could reformat one to fat32
[10:48] <Arcad3> prob here
[10:48] <jbmigel> RMorris85 you still should backup first though...
[10:48] <RMorris85> jbmigel: then just exit out of the installer? or use gparted?
[10:48] <Arcad3> my site cannot be acessed via internet EX;www.my-site.co
[10:49] <Arinomi> Burn, baby, burn ^^
[10:49] <Adam> Hi. How do I remove all trace of Vim from Dapper?
[10:49] <Arcad3> any how to..
[10:49] <jbmigel> RMorris85 you know i never tried to exit the installer when its resizing windows... probably will destroy all your data... i would be very careful.
[10:50] <RMorris85> jbmigel: thats what i was thinking... should i just use the partition magic?
[10:50] <Adam> I tried "apt-get --purge remove vim.*", and apt said it was going to remove ubuntu-base* and ubuntu-minimal*, which doesn't appear to be a good idea...
[10:50] <Schalken> Adam: in senaptic select 'remove completely'
[10:50] <jbmigel> RMorris85 If you have partitionmagic i would use that, it is safe and meant for such things
[10:51] <RMorris85> jbmigel: i was wondering how its going to differenciate between the data on the drive...
[10:51] <RMorris85> ok ill boot into windows and try that
[10:51] <RMorris85> :-(
[10:51] <jbmigel> RMorris85 sorry i dont understand your differenciate question... everything should have its own partition
[10:51] <Adam> Schalken, shouldn't "apt-get --purge remove vim.*" be better?
[10:52] <Schalken> Adam: not sure what that does,
[10:52] <Adam> Schalken, essentially the same, except it appears to remove packages of which Vim is a part.
[10:53] <sioux> hi people i have a problem with my usb port on my laptop. each usb device that i connect works for a while and than crash all the system a so bad crash that i must switch off the laptop
[10:53] <Schalken> Adam: do you mean which depend on vim?
[10:53] <Adam> Schalken, yes.
[10:53] <Adam> ok, I'll just use Synaptic
[10:54] <Adam> oh, hm. Synaptic wants to remove ubuntu-base and -minimal too...
[10:54] <Adam> can I remove those packages?  or will it break something?
[10:55] <jbmigel> Adam ubuntu-base sounds kinda usefull
[10:55] <jbmigel> 8)
[10:56] <Adam> jbmigel, yeah. like, "basic" ;)
[10:56] <Adam> anyways, how do I install gvim7?
[10:56] <Adam> (on Dapper) tell me that and I'll be happy. it really shouldn't be that hard...
[10:56] <Hazarath> Connected new hard drive, formatted to ext3, not can't seem to mount it for writing.
[10:56] <Hazarath> ^now
[10:57] <sioux> whohelpme to fix a usb port problem on my laptop? :-)
[10:57] <Schalken> sioux: best post in the forums. nothing obvious comes to mind.
[10:57] <kklaine> Help me.. there's a door in my apartment that won't open.. pushing won't work. Any ideas?
[10:57] <CheekyBoinc> ubuntu-base and ubuntu-minimal are Metapackages ! Read the Package description ;)
[10:58] <Hazarath> How do I mount my new hard drive?
[10:58] <jbmigel> kklaine i suggest pushing harder
[10:59] <Hazarath> Sledge works too.
[10:59] <sioux> schalken the fact is once connected a usb device it works for a while and than all the system crash, no error logs or something like that
[10:59] <kklaine> I tried kicking and everything - nothing happens
[10:59] <Hazarath> kklaine, you are not playing, are ya?
[10:59] <jbmigel> kklaine it is hopeless... try windows
[11:00] <emergent> Hazarath: "mount /dev/<harddrive> <mountpoint>"
[11:00] <kklaine> Seriously though - can anyone help with my nvidia problem? :)
[11:00] <sioux> kklaine go on
[11:00] <emergent> kklaine: whats the problem?
 Help! My nvidia driver stopped working and if I try to use the nv setting gdm system totally crashes in less than a minute :(
[11:01] <PathagenX> is there no XV in the repos?
[11:01] <Adam> if I intend to use lots of KDE applications, does it make sense for me to use the standard Ubuntu?  should I get KUbuntu instead?
[11:01] <emergent> tried reinstalling the nvidia-glx package?
[11:02] <emergent> did you use the drivers from nvidia.com or from apt
[11:02] <justin_> Adam: Umm.. Linux apps are interchangeble.. except for system stuff
[11:02] <justin_> Adam: It does not matter, KDE/GNOME are simply .. window designs..
[11:02] <Adam> justin_, yeah, I'm just having some problems with some of my KDE applications
[11:02] <jbmigel> adam
[11:02] <kklaine> I installed it with the ubuntuforums guide (apt). Then one day it stopped working.. I reinstalled it but that didn't help
[11:03] <Adam> justin_, for example, Amarok won't open links in the web browser.
[11:03] <justin_> Adam: So if you have problems, go Kbuntu - use what works for you thats all ;D thats the whole point of Linux in the first place hehe.
[11:03] <justin_> Adam: Simply an option issue
[11:03] <justin_> It is probably looking for Konq, and cant find it
[11:03] <sioux> kklaine did you install kernel-headers
[11:03] <Adam> justin_, yup, that might be it.
[11:03] <kklaine> sioux: Yeah
[11:03] <Adam> still less nice than working by default.
[11:03] <Hazarath> emergent, 'mount: you must specify the filesystem type'
[11:03] <frogzoo> Adam: whichever you prefer, but it takes extra disk for both libraries
[11:04] <sioux> kk ok what kind of crash you get
[11:04] <justin_> The only KDE specific program I have ever had trouble with in another window manager was KGPG..
[11:04] <Adam> frogzoo, yeah, I noticed, though it's minor.
[11:04] <bobby> ok i am on my ubuntu load now
[11:04] <bobby> or partition
[11:04] <justin_> But then I figured out it was my video driver :P
[11:04] <shadeofgrey> is there a stable version of ubuntu that runs on a intel mac?
[11:05] <kklaine> gdm fails to start and I think it sais something like nvidia module doesn't exist
[11:05] <justin_> Does Synaptic have L.A.M.P?
[11:05] <FoxHunter> bye
[11:06] <justin_> Or do I need to install piece by piece through synaptic/
[11:06] <justin_> ?
[11:06] <bobby> when i get to a page like this which one do i download?
[11:06] <bobby> http://guifications.sourceforge.net/downloads.php
[11:06] <emergent> Hazarath: you shouldn't have to if it's ext3, but the flag would be "mount -t <fstype> /dev/<drive> <mountpoint>"
[11:06] <kklaine> The nv setting makes weird white dots and "fog" on the screen and after a while, freezes totally. And no, I'm not on LSD
[11:06] <justin_> bobby: Does not matter, they are simply mirrors of the exact same file.
[11:07] <emergent> kklaine: I'm getting the exact same thing
[11:07] <kklaine> emergent: Has it just recently started happening?
[11:07] <emergent> everything in ubuntu works like a dream, except the nvidia drivers
[11:07] <justin_> kklaine: The white spots and black screen are normal - and it may take up to 10 minutes to load GDM at times.
[11:07] <Hazarath> emergent, 'mount: /dev/hdc already mounted or /home/hazarath/HazExtra6GB busy'
[11:07] <emergent> well, I just yesterday migrated from freebsd on my laptop since ubuntu has better wireless support
[11:08] <justin_> Sometimes my GDM starts up in seconds, sometimes in minutes...
[11:08] <emergent> kklaine: so yes =]
[11:08] <rogue_boy> i cannot for the like of me get wifi working or the rotating cube for the workstations
[11:08] <sioux> people do you know if there are some issuee about usb port for laptop with ubuntu?
[11:09] <emergent> Hazarath: should be in "/media" then
[11:09] <kklaine> I never got the white spots and black before - until a few days ago
[11:09] <justin_> sioux: Ubuntu is not friendly to USB 1.0 .. thats about it
[11:09] <justin_> If you have USB 2.0' you should not see any problems, but 1.0 does have its problems once in a while.
[11:09] <JonnytheRipper> is the "ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso" the standard version for normal pc's ?
[11:09] <rogue_boy> lucky i have USB 2.0
[11:09] <frogzoo> justin_: linux does usb 1.0 just fine, only depends on the chipset drivers
[11:10] <sioux> I think my laptop has usb 1.0 it is dell C600 PIII
[11:10] <justin_> frogzoo: Yeah well it is longer to explain it that way.
[11:10] <emergent> kklaine: one thing i noticed is when I install nvidia-glx, I can just edit the driver setting in xorg.conf to 'nvidia', restart X and I get the splash...everything's fine. It's not until I reboot that I get the error
[11:10] <Hazarath> emergent, Ok, that's odd... it's working, just didn't expect it to be a folder, but a drive.
[11:10] <frogzoo> justin_: cool
[11:11] <emergent> Hazarath: =]
[11:11] <kklaine> emergent: Gotta try that ->
[11:11] <rogue_boy> i only need to get my wifi working so i can disconnect from the livingroom ethernet cable and go into my room
[11:11] <sioux> do you know if there are some fixing for usb 1.0
[11:12] <emergent> kklaine: another thing is when i reboot, you know that 'no module found' error in that 'fog' error - i found out that the glx driver was no longer installed for some reason
[11:12] <Hazarath> Reminds me... I get another error suddenly on my system... I'll like, be watching a film, and the next thing I know, Gnome goes crazy, it says stuff like 'gnome-panel has shut down un-expectantly', and 'I've noticed that that app is already running, I will not halt this' [Or somethnig to that extent] .
[11:12] <emergent> kklaine: so I had to reinstall the glx driver - it's so strange.
[11:13] <rogue_boy> i need to get my bcmwl5.inf woring so that my wifi works
[11:13] <sioux> frogzoo I have a dell PIII it could give problem with ubuntu?
[11:14] <emergent> Hazarath: quit watching so much p0rn =P haha j/k i'm not fully up to speed with ubuntu since I've been a freebsd user for so long =]
[11:14] <rogue_boy> acer aspire 5004 wlmi is my notebook and i wrote a review on it that i can link to
[11:14] <Hazarath> emergent, it was SG1, actually. :p
[11:14] <emergent> Hazarath: but it could be a dep that you're missing
[11:14] <Adam> ok, suppose I want to create a .deb file from some source release (Vim7). what should I google for?
[11:14] <justin_> sioux: Naw, maybe your 1.0 usb, but other then that PIII's are rugged enough for Ubuntu.
[11:15] <emergent> Hazarath: or some of the software you're using is of the "unstable" breed
[11:16] <sioux> justin hummm  that looks like a ubuntu problem not kernel problem rights? so may be other distro should be ok rights?
[11:16] <Humpty-Dumpty>  please help I would like to use noteedit but it's using /dev/snd/seq device whitch is not exist. How can I create this device using alsa?
[11:17] <kklaine> emergent: Oh yeah? I'll check it out
[11:17] <Hazarath> emergent, So, it's not the Gnome shell, or something?
[11:17] <kklaine> It says "Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module" when I try to reboot
[11:17] <justin_> sioux: No its a chipset problem, so its really a hardware issue.
[11:17] <emergent> kklaine: I'm going to reboot and give everything another go-over
[11:17] <justin_> sioux: USB 1.0 has problems with Windows also depending on what chipset you have.
[11:17] <emergent> kklaine: yup, that's what mine says
[11:18] <kklaine> I still do have nvidia-glx-legaxy installed though
[11:18] <mtholdenss> whats the terminal script to install xserver-xgl  ?
[11:18] <sioux> justin well this laptop on w2k is okthe usb device works ok
[11:18] <emergent> Hazarath: the terminal is pretty stable I think
[11:19] <emergent> kklaine: the answer is around here somewhere, brb
[11:19] <molkko> when apt-get installing there are suggested and recommended packages. what are they? whats the difference between the two?
[11:20] <sioux> kklaine if i well remember nvidia should also have a proprietary installer something like nvidia-installer
[11:20] <sioux> kklaine that installer works with x down
[11:21] <fyrestrtr> molkko: other pacakges that might be useful for the app you are installing. For example, documentation packages.
[11:21] <kklaine> sioux: How do I install that?
[11:21] <kklaine> Couldn't find it on apt
[11:21] <sioux> kklaine just go to www.nvidia.com and follow the instruction
[11:22] <molkko> fyrestrtr, and whats the difference between "suggested" and "recommended"?
[11:22] <kklaine> Oh, OK. I'll try it, thanks
[11:22] <gnomefreak> kklaine: nvidia-glx is in the multiverse repo
[11:23] <mtholdenss> whats the diff between sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl and apt-get install xserver-xgl  ...
[11:23] <frying_fish> mtholdenss: if you aren't already root, then you will need to use sudo
[11:23] <gnomefreak> mtholdenss: you need to do it as "root" and sudo allows you to do that
[11:23] <frying_fish> and that will only work if you have sudo permissions.
[11:23] <mtholdenss> how do i know if im root?
[11:24] <gnomefreak> does the command promtp have a # or a $
[11:24] <frying_fish> you're on a terminal right.. there should be a # at the end of the line if you are as root currently
[11:24] <frying_fish> or whoami may help
[11:24] <sioux> mtholdenss you are never root with ubuntu
[11:24] <frying_fish> sioux: thats a lie.
[11:24] <mtholdenss> i have $
[11:24] <cafuego> sioux: 'sudo -s' says otherwise
[11:24] <Ackeubu__> heeey, .. i have 3 primaries partitions. and I am working with my fourths partition. do i need to format it to make it an extended partition?? I would prefer not. but....
[11:24] <frying_fish> mtholdenss: then you are a regular user currently
[11:24] <sioux> if you wont be try sudo -s
[11:24] <frying_fish> cafuego: indeed
[11:24] <mtholdenss> ok thanks much
[11:24] <cafuego> mtholdenss: You can always type 'whoami'
[11:24] <frying_fish> or sudo -i
[11:25] <frying_fish> or sudo su
[11:25] <frying_fish> many options to get a root shell going
[11:25] <gnomefreak> sudo - should work too :)
[11:25] <cafuego> Yes. vmlinuz init=/bin/bash
[11:25] <emergent> kklaine: uhm...well...it's working now <blink> <blink>
[11:25] <sioux> yes but sudo and than the command is also ok
[11:25] <cafuego> gnomefreak: nope
[11:25] <frying_fish> if you only want to perform the one command yes.
[11:25] <gnomefreak> no?
[11:25] <cafuego> gnomefreak: Try && see :-)
[11:25] <frying_fish> gnomefreak: you get a usage.
[11:26] <zutme> Excuse me, could someone please tell me how to set the vsync when booting the livecd. Whenever x tries to start my monitor says ivalid frequency so I'm guessing this is the problem
[11:26] <kklaine> emergent: OK, good for you :)
[11:26] <emergent> kklaine: not sure dude, but I didn't install nvidia-xconfig or nvidia-settings this time around so that might have something to do with it
[11:26] <gnomefreak> hmmmmm thats not a good thing (ok ty now i just need remeber to email someone)
[11:26] <gnomefreak> emergent: on dapper you dont have to
[11:27] <emergent> gnomefreak: and it may break the driver if they are installed it seems
[11:27] <gnomefreak> emergent: it will remove the driver if installed
[11:27] <emergent> gnomefreak: ah
[11:27] <gnomefreak> emergent: all you need is nvidia-glx for nvidia to work
[11:27] <mtholdenss> last time i followed something it screwed up so im only following official ubuntu wikis
[11:28] <gnomefreak> plus restricted modules package
[11:28] <cafuego> gnomefreak: linux-restricted-drivers-$(uname -r)
[11:28] <emergent> gnomefreak: that must have been it - the first time I tried, I believe I installed the xconfig as well
[11:28] <emergent> kklaine: have either of those packages installed?
[11:28] <gnomefreak> cafuego: i added it  its still bc here (bc = before coffee)
[11:28] <eegore> here is a something I had to do to get dvd's to play proplerly. I had to soft link libdvdcss.so.2.0.8 to a link named libdvdcss.so. Is that normal?
[11:28] <frying_fish> gnomefreak: lol, what times is it where you are
[11:29] <gnomefreak> 5:30 am
[11:29] <kklaine> emergent: Yeah I have settings and xconfig apparently
[11:29] <frying_fish> east coast us?
[11:29] <frying_fish> and thats quite early to be up,
[11:29] <gnomefreak> yep :)
[11:29] <frying_fish> ahh so you have a reason.
[11:29] <Ackeubu__> Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh how do i make it an extended partition.....
[11:29] <frying_fish> its 10.30 for me (UK)
[11:29] <frying_fish> Ackeubu__: using?
[11:29] <kklaine> emergent: Should I remove them?
[11:29] <emergent> kklaine: just apt-get the glx driver then and it should uninstall the settings and xconfig
[11:29] <Ackeubu__> frying_fish: gparted
[11:30] <gnomefreak> brb coffee
[11:30] <Ackeubu__> frying_fish: i have 26gb free unallocated
[11:30] <frying_fish> Ackeubu__: it might show as an option, I only really know that you can do it with fdisk
[11:30] <kklaine> glx instead of glx-legacy?
[11:30] <frying_fish> haven't tried gparted
[11:30] <sioux> kklaine is better if you adde --purge
[11:30] <emergent> kklaine: what card are you running?
[11:30] <eegore> Did they fix that bug in the newest xorg that does not play nice with the NVidia driver?
[11:30] <kklaine> emergent: Geforce2 Ti
[11:30] <Ackeubu__> frying_fish: i have 2 fat32 drives and another extended drive. and then the 26gb unallocated
[11:31] <zutme> does anyone know if you can change the vsync that you boot with on the livecd?
[11:31] <frying_fish> you might need to have that 26gb in the extended area
[11:31] <Ackeubu__> frying_fish: i cant just have 1 extended right!!!!
[11:31] <emergent> kklaine: probably legacy then - there's apparently a list of cards supported by the regular driver in that unofficial wiki
[11:31] <cafuego> Ackeubu__: Of course you can.
[11:31] <eegore> I had to down grade xorg from it in order to get xserver running again
[11:31] <pilpi> hi. in order for a group member to be capable to 'cd' to a directory owned by the group, does he also have to have access to the parent directories?
[11:31] <emergent> kklaine: you could always try both, right? =]
[11:31] <frying_fish> the way I have mine laid out is 1 primary, and the rest are all inside an extended partition, windows was the only thing that needed to be on a primary.
[11:31] <kklaine> emergent: Yeah I suppose :)
[11:32] <Ackeubu__> cafuego: i can have more then one.
[11:32] <Ackeubu__> cafuego: right?!
[11:32] <cafuego> Ackeubu__: Yes.
[11:32] <Ackeubu__> $%(%&E#$($% gparted......
[11:33] <cafuego> Ackeubu__: As long as you create at least one logicla aprtition, you can have up to (um 32?) extendeds in that, yes.
[11:33] <Ackeubu__> cafuego: when i choose new. in the gparted menu. the only option i get is primary. I cant pick logical or extended..
[11:34] <cafuego> Ackeubu__: That's annoying. /me would just use 'fdisk'.
[11:34] <frying_fish> yeah, fdisk would be a better idea Ackeubu__
[11:35] <Ackeubu__> cafuego: aye. i tried sudo fdisk /dev/hda. and it said inable to open /dev/hda
[11:35] <mcphail> pilpi: yes, you need access to the parents
[11:35] <Ackeubu__> its in use. and cant be opended?
[11:35] <frying_fish> odd
[11:35] <cafuego> Ackeubu__: Boot from livecd
[11:35] <frying_fish> I could get at mine and its my only one
[11:35] <Ackeubu__> aye...
[11:35] <cafuego> or better yet, install cd and flip to tty2 after the disks have been detected
[11:36] <zutme> Is there a way to force the livecd to use a certain vsync?
[11:36] <rogue_boy> ok i got some functionality of wifi on my ACER
[11:36] <Ackeubu__> rogue_boy: what acer do you have?
[11:37] <rogue_boy> aspire 5004 wlmi
[11:37] <cafuego> rogue_boy: What does 'lspci' say about the wifi chip?
[11:37] <Ackeubu__> rogue_boy: okay. with  Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
[11:38] <Ackeubu__> ?
[11:38] <fyrestrtr> zutme: choose the safe graphics mode from the startup menu,
[11:38] <rogue_boy> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102&highlight=wifi+bcmwl5.inf
[11:38] <zutme> i already tried that and it did the same thing. now i am thinking it may be because I have dual monitors
[11:39] <zutme> for some reason its piutting it on 59hz which i dont think my monitor can support
[11:39] <kklaine> OK gotta visit my dad at the hospital, I'll get back to this later ->
[11:39] <rogue_boy> this is mine
[11:39] <rogue_boy> http://www.notebookforums.com/thread173001.html
[11:41] <Ackeubu__> cafuego: would it do the trick booting into the rescue root mode?
[11:42] <eegore> is there a way to increase the mouse sampling rate in XORG
[11:43] <cafuego> Ackeubu__: You'll be able to make the changes, but would then need to reboot again to make the kernel see those changes.
[11:44] <Ackeubu__> cafuego: okay
[11:45] <Yjlat> figli di puttana
[11:45] <Yjlat> si muore dalla puzza
[11:45] <Yjlat> qui
[11:45] <rogue_boy> grrrrrrrr
[11:45] <Yjlat> ce puzza
[11:45] <Yjlat> sapete perch?
[11:45] <yereth> hi all
[11:45] <Yjlat> perche siete tutti pezzi di merda
[11:45] <rogue_boy> anyone here know how to help me with my wifi card to get it to work?
[11:45] <rogue_boy> http://www.notebookforums.com/thread173001.html
[11:46] <yereth> I've done a dist-upgrade yesterday running dapper with backports and now all of a sudden I see snow in opengl games.. a lot of colourful snow through the rendering of the screen
[11:46] <yereth> anybody has any idea what it could be?
[11:47] <yereth> Or perhaps someone can tell me where I can find the history of apt?
[11:47] <drazet>
[11:47] <emergent> yereth: wikipedia?
[11:47] <drazet>
[11:47] <yereth> emergent: ?
[11:48] <yereth> emergent: ah, that was a bad joke
[11:48] <yereth> emergent: do you have any real suggestions?
[11:49] <frying_fish> pastebin
[11:49] <frying_fish> !pastebin
[11:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:50] <emergent> yereth: you asked for the history of apt, so I was under the impression that it was a real suggestion =]
[11:50] <emergent> yereth: in answer to the later remark: no.
[11:51] <yereth> emergent: ok.. I'll be more specific (thought you would understand from my previous remark).. I need the installation history of apt so that I can figure out what upgrade ruined my opengl rendering
[11:51] <yereth> :)
[11:51] <era86> anyone in here get their counterstrike to work :)
[11:52] <yereth> era86: I got quake3 working :)
[11:52] <era86> nice
[11:52] <cafuego> yereth: There isn't one if you used 'apt-get'.
[11:52] <era86> i am dling cs right now
[11:52] <yereth> cafuego: I used apt-get... :(
[11:52] <sagarp> i have a linux installed in vmware...i can install it on an empty partition using qemu to convert the vmware disk image and then cat that image into the partition...but does the partition have to be the same size as the image? can i cat a small image into a larger partition?
[11:52] <yereth> era86: quake3 with Urban Terror is way cooler :)
[11:53] <era86> yereth: haha ill stick to getting this to work first
[11:53] <yereth> era86: your loss ;)
[11:53] <yereth> era86: good luck with it though :)
[11:53] <lupine_85> sagarp: you can put the image into a larger partition
[11:54] <lupine_85> you just won't be able to use the extra space unless you do a resize
[11:54] <Nilvio> enyone know something program in ubuntu where i can record mouse move and clicking and then replay it ?
[11:54] <sagarp> lupine_85, will i need to expand it or something?
[11:54] <sagarp> ah
[11:54] <RamiKassab> hey guys when I turned on my laptop today to boot up ubuntu I received the following error during the bootup process: "make: warning: Clock skew detected. Your build may be incomplete." What does this mean exactly?
[11:54] <sagarp> lupine_85, thanks :P i wonder why i didnt think of that ..
[11:56] <rogue_boy> ok this is pissing me off i see millions of ways to install my wifi but none of them work
[11:56] <RamiKassab> any ideas guys?
[11:58] <prateekg> how to update amarok 1.4.2 to 1.4.3....is 1.4.3 available on ubuntu backports
[11:58] <Fuzz> can someone help me set up Ragnarok Online with wine!?
[12:01] <k3nobi> how do i run application automatically just after login?
[12:02] <chamo> k3nobi, are you using gnome ?
[12:02] <k3nobi> chamo: yes
[12:02] <phlaxis> system -> preferences -> sessions. In startup tab you click on add
[12:02] <phlaxis> and type the command you want to start
[12:02] <chamo> it's very easy. go to System,... ya thank phlaxis  :)
[12:02] <k3nobi> great!!
[12:02] <k3nobi> thank you
[12:03] <FirstStrike> Fuzz: RO should work some-what well out of the box. Just run the RO installer with wine and go from there.
[12:03] <yereth> RamiKassab: http://www.linuxsa.org.au/pipermail/linuxsa/1999-January/004534.html
[12:03] <yereth> RamiKassab: read that post
[12:03] <yereth> maybe it'll help you
[12:04] <yereth> anyone running testing atm?
[12:04] <yereth> I use backports, but is testing more up to date?
[12:04] <Fuzz> FirstStrike: well ive done that, ive even gotten some dll that it needed for rag and sak, but the private client isnt running
[12:05] <RamiKassab> yereth: so I need to do this on the Makefiles for the distribution?
[12:06] <timruff> vbfd
[12:06] <FirstStrike> Fuzz: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=240319
[12:07] <Ackeubu_> damn everything tells me i can only have one logical partition but within that one. I can have several extended. or was it the other way around. either way im screwed.
[12:08] <lupine_85> Ackeubu_: extended partitions can have multiple logical
[12:08] <Nilvio> nobody hear me ?
[12:08] <daurn|laptop> hi all
[12:08] <Nilvio> who can see my texts ?
[12:09] <lupine_85> you can have up to 4 primary partitions; extended partitions must also be primary partitions
[12:09] <daurn|laptop> i can't get pureadmin (or pureftpd) to work
[12:09] <hantoo> i can't, Nilvio
[12:09] <phlaxis> Nilvo: Ask away!
[12:09] <Hazarath> Still having problems mounting my new drive. :/
[12:09] <daurn|laptop> when i go into pureadmin, i can start pureftpd, and can add accounts etc
[12:09] <daurn|laptop> but when i exit, and get back in
[12:09] <daurn|laptop> all settings have disappeared
[12:09] <daurn|laptop>  - what am i doing wrong
[12:10] <Hazarath> Ah, okes, duh.
[12:10] <yereth> RamiKassab: I only read what you read.. :) but it seems that could be the problem, if what they explain looks similar to you as well. So this guy gives an idea how you can easily batch the solution the previous post gave
[12:10] <Nilvio> i wanna ask did enyone know Mouse recorder/replayer for ubuntu ?
[12:11] <daurn|laptop> anyone?
[12:11] <bobby_> ok my wifi works now
[12:11] <RamiKassab> yereth: yeah noticed that... ok I appreciate the help. I'll search around a bit more and give it a try... thanks again!
[12:11] <bobby_> i hear there is an upgrade for it to see how many bars or indicator bt .....
[12:11] <Vegeta> When I mount points in ubuntu, what mount points are essential?
[12:11] <daurn|laptop> hello?
[12:12] <lupine_85> Vegeta: depends on how you want to set it up. You have to have / ...
[12:12] <brendonjt> vegeta: what do you mean essential mount points
[12:12] <lupine_85> everything else can be a part of /, or on a different partition
[12:12] <Vegeta> Yes / and swap. But expect for them.
[12:12] <lupine_85> I usually have /home (and sometimes /boot) on separate partitions
[12:12] <ubuntu321> Hi im trying to install java so i can use Frostwire. Im installing it using automatrix but it wont install?
[12:12] <Vegeta> What is /boot? Isn't it the same as /
[12:13] <lupine_85> (since they're both portable between different linux distros)
[12:13] <lupine_85>  /boot is where all the kernel images & GRUB data is stored
[12:13] <lupine_85> erm, are stored, rather
[12:13] <daurn|laptop> anyone care to help me.... at al
[12:13] <daurn|laptop> l
[12:13] <ubuntu321> Im trying to install java using automatrix but it wont install? Help?
[12:13] <Vegeta> But is I don't mount that point, does it mean that those kernel images and GRUB data wont be stored in my hd at all?
[12:13] <neutrinomass> lupine_85: You might want to consider having a /data partition instead of keeping /home around. It might break stuff when switching between distros (or upgrading, for the matter )
[12:13] <lupine_85> daurn|laptop: no idea, sorry
[12:14] <brendonjt> ubuntu321:sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin
[12:14] <lupine_85> neutrinomass: I've also got /media/shared
[12:14] <daurn|laptop> comeon
[12:14] <ubuntu321> cheers ill try tht
[12:14] <daurn|laptop> you gotta have SOME idea
[12:14] <daurn|laptop> :S
[12:14] <daurn|laptop> cause i'm out
[12:14] <hantoo> what was the textbased music player with playlist support again?
[12:14] <Fuzz> FirstStrike:  well ive done all it said me to do but step 7 doesnt work
[12:14] <brendonjt> ubuntu321:then after that has done type this and choose option 3 sudo update-alternatives --config java
[12:14] <Fuzz> thats the one i said, the private client
[12:15] <lupine_85> but I've shared this /home between Gentoo, SuSE, three different install of Ubuntu (including breezy->dapper upgrade)... no problems
[12:15] <neutrinomass> lupine_85: Yeah... I just want to point out that importing all those .* files from distro to distro is not always a good idea (stuff breaks, from program crashing to being unable to login )
[12:15] <Vegeta> lupine_85: But is I don't mount that point, does it mean that those kernel images and GRUB data wont be stored in my hd at all?
[12:15] <Fuzz> and the private server isnt using a data folder
[12:15] <ubuntu321> brendonjt: it says E: Couldn't find package sun-java5-jre
[12:15] <neutrinomass> lupine_85: I know.  SO that in one I could install all the softwares I' going to use (like media players, text editing software and ect..) and one with the personal files. Like saved videos and saved documents...?
[12:17] <lupine_85> Vegeta: /opt for 3rd-party media players (or /use if you're talking about stuff installed with apt-get/synaptic)
[12:17] <ubuntu321> brendonjt: ok
[12:17] <lupine_85> I use /media/shared for videos, etc
[12:18] <lupine_85> erm, /usr rather
[12:18] <lupine_85> however, since /usr isn't portable between distros, it's a bit pointless keeping it on a separate partition IMO
[12:18] <Vegeta> "usr 	Secondary hierarchy" <-- What does that mean?
[12:18] <lupine_85> it means it's mounted *after* /
[12:19] <Vegeta> ok. So /home and /var is on the same hierarchy?
[12:19] <lupine_85> (fstab runs several passes - think of what woud happen if /usr was mounted before / ? ;) )
[12:19] <lupine_85> yes, if you want them to be
[12:19] <juan> !mount
[12:19] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[12:20] <lupine_85> lol
[12:20] <lupine_85> where's fdisk? ;)
[12:20] <juan> how do i auto mount directores?
[12:20] <lupine_85> juan: /etc/fstab
[12:20] <davide> hi
[12:21] <Vegeta> So where will installed softwares be stored?
[12:21] <Vegeta> I mean "extern" softwares, like the ones YOU install, which is not on ubuntu.
[12:22] <aldur2> hi guy, got a question about downloading a .lha file that I'm having problems wiht
[12:22] <aldur2> with even
[12:22] <davide> /usr/bin/ is where you have the binaries
[12:23] <ubuntu321> im trying to install java using automatrix but it wont install
[12:23] <Vegeta> davide: I'm a real newbie here, what are those /binaries? It is parts of software?
[12:25] <dibblego> what can I do about this problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=251944
[12:25] <davide> Vegeta: well i'm sorry i really have to disconnect right now, but just search on google for "unix file system organization" or similar
[12:25] <Vegeta> Because I want something like this: 2 GB for / (can / be on hda2 btw?), 1 GB: swap, 10 GB: For softwares that I install, 20 and 20 GB: For personal files. What do I call the mount points then?
[12:26] <davide> Vegeta: well what you could do is have your personal file in your home directory
[12:27] <|H|qK> hello all
[12:27] <Vegeta> Ok. What about softwares? I want to install them on a different partition
[12:27] <davide> vegeta: and then leave the rest to your / (it will contain the install files) and
[12:27] <Vegeta> ohh ok.
[12:27] <davide> Vegeta: and 1GB to swap
[12:27] <|H|qK> anyone here play games that are meant to go on a pc, but can be installed on linux?
[12:27] <Vegeta> Linux can't be installed in 1 partition like windows?
[12:28] <lupine_85> Vegeta: it can
[12:28] <lupine_85> if you don't mount a separate partition, it just uses /
[12:28] <davide> Vegeta: yes it ca
[12:28] <Vegeta> Will linux be installed in /??
[12:28] <lupine_85> Vegeta: yes
[12:28] <lupine_85> *Everything* is installed in /, by default
[12:29] <davide> Vegeta: this is usually the default, it uses / and swap, if you don't tell it to organize things differently
[12:29] <aldur> anyone know while firefox won't download any .lha file?
[12:29] <lupine_85> when you install stuff on a separate partition, it just moves the data that would otherwise be in another directory to there, and mounts it at that directory
[12:30] <Vegeta> hmm.. Because I have: 1 GB, 2 GB, 10 GB, 2x20 GB.   Swap: 1 GB, and / 2 GB. So I thought that I could install softwares on the 10 GB partition... But what do I call the directory then?
[12:30] <|H|qK> .lha = ?
[12:30] <yereth> anyone experience with edgy?
[12:30] <lupine_85> #ubuntu+1
[12:30] <aldur> its a compress file archive
[12:30] <yereth> ah yes
[12:30] <davide> Vegeta: to organize them differently i think it would be more than ok for you if you are a newbie just to have no more than 3 partitions, / swap and /home
[12:30] <Ackeubu_> lupine_85: but i can only have one extended?
[12:30] <aldur> http://www.os4depot.net and try to download any .lha file its ust blank
[12:30] <davide> Vegeta: call it /home
[12:31] <lupine_85> Ackeubu_: you don't need more than one
[12:31] <lupine_85> an extended partition can contain any number of logical partitions
[12:31] <davide> Vegeta: sorry i gotta go... bye! PS: try search some infos googling!!!
[12:31] <Vegeta> davide: Will softwares be installed in / or /home? Because then I would need more space for /, if softwares will be installed there...
[12:31] <Vegeta> Ok :(
[12:31] <ashu> i have got problem with my OS with ubuntu installed by live cd..actually when i boot the pc with hard disk...it doesnt boot at all..and look for dhcp ..everytime i have to start my pc using the live cd..please help me and pm me if anybody knows abt this problem..TIA
[12:31] <davide> Luping:  yep it is true, but he wants to partiion it anyway...
[12:32] <lupine_85> Vegeta: you don't quite "get" linux filesystems, do you? (I'm not trying to be nasty, just trying to determine how much you know)
[12:32] <aldur> ashu sould like grub isn't installed
[12:32] <Vegeta> Yeah I have 1 extended paritition. lupine_85
[12:32] <aldur> !grub
[12:32] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:32] <Vegeta> lupine_85: As I say I'm a REAL newbie.
[12:32] <davide> Vegeta: they will be installed in your /
[12:32] <pilpi> Vegeta, it's not installed in /home. it is under / in one of those system directories
[12:32] <lupine_85> everything in linux -- everything -- is found off of /
[12:33] <davide> Vegeta: your /home is for your PERSONAL files...
[12:33] <aldur> Vegeta me a newbie too
[12:33] <ashu> aldur: i installed the grub ..by the live cd..but i am not sure now.how to recover it back..how to go abt it ..can u just explain me aldur?
[12:33] <lupine_85> lots of 'standard' directories come off of / -- /home is for personal, /usr for (shared user) applications, /etc for configuration, etc
[12:33] <davide> Bye everyone!
[12:33] <aldur> you can ask teh bot a question by putting a ! before the keyword on a blank line
[12:33] <Vegeta> cya
[12:33] <lupine_85> any of those directories "can" be mounted on a separate partition
[12:33] <duck1123> Would disconnecting my tv from a twinview setup cause my computer to boot into the desktop for a second and then kick me back to the login screen?
[12:33] <aldur> I'm a newboe too type !grub and follow the links
[12:34] <pilpi> Vegeta, each userr has their own directory in /home. all that goes there is the personal config dirs that applications create, and your personal files you put there. applications are _usually_ installed systemwide, i.e. not for some specific user
[12:34] <duck1123> or does anyone know what else could cause that
[12:34] <lupine_85> pilpi: depends on how you work, I guess :)
[12:34] <Vegeta> pilpi: ok..
[12:34] <pilpi> lupine_85, what does?
[12:34] <lupine_85> the loss of ~/bin was a terrible day
[12:34] <sasuke> does anyone know how to install vnc4server with out having to delete so many files?
[12:34] <aldur> !firefox
[12:34] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[12:34] <ashu> aldur:thanks :)
[12:35] <sasuke> !vncserver
[12:35] <ubotu> vncserver: Virtual network computing server software. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3.7-8ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 530 kB, installed size 1240 kB
[12:35] <lupine_85> single-user systems, though, you might as well have all applications in /usr, I agree
[12:35] <ashu> !grub
[12:35] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:35] <sasuke> !vnc4server
[12:35] <ubotu> vnc4server: Virtual network computing server software. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.1.1+xorg1.0.2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 986 kB, installed size 2332 kB
[12:35] <Vegeta> lupine_85: Wouldn't it be useles for me to create and extended partition, where I create to 10 and 2x20 GB under (which I had), but in stead use 1 partition for all the 50 GB?
[12:36] <Fuzz> uhm ive been trying to get RO to work, but the private client doesnt work, here is the error i get: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22991
[12:36] <aldur> vegeta use 1 50Gb partition and just use directories
[12:36] <Fuzz> would someone please take a look at it?
[12:36] <lupine_85> Vegeta: at first sight there is no real advantage to have separate partitions
[12:36] <Vegeta> ok...
[12:37] <duck1123> does anyone know where the error log file for gnome would be? I need to find out why ubuntu won't let me log in anymore
[12:37] <aldur> then if you only use 10Gb for music your not wasting 10gb on the rest of the partition
[12:37] <Vegeta> Only for / and swap there is...
[12:37] <aldur> !error
[12:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about error - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:37] <aldur> !errorlog
[12:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about errorlog - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:37] <aldur> !loggs
[12:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about loggs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:37] <sasuke> !error on gnome
[12:37] <aldur> !logs
[12:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about error on gnome - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:37] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[12:37] <bobby_> i guess xgl doesn't work on SiS
[12:37] <lupine_85> however, if you accidentally kill your / partition, and only have the one partition, you'll regret it ;)
[12:37] <bobby_> :)
[12:37] <Vegeta> well those 10 GB was intended for Linux system files and software files. But I guess I can but those 10 GB to the /, right??
[12:38] <aldur> do your self a favour and just set up a simple system to start with.
[12:38] <phate> why is it that I have to jump through flaming hoops to get my music to play?
[12:38] <sasuke> does anyone know any python?
[12:39] <duck1123> because ubuntu doesn't come with any non-free code
[12:39] <sasuke> my sound card can't be found, and its preventing me of listening to music, anyone know why it can't be found?
[12:39] <finalbeta> phate, linux doesn't play nice with multimedia yet
[12:39] <Vegeta> aldur: Why? I only asked if using 10 GB for the /, would be a good idea. Because if system files and softwares are installed there, it wouldn't quite good to only have 2 GB for /...
[12:39] <justin_> Phate :)) - get XMMS
[12:40] <daurn|laptop> how do you see what ports are open - and being used by what program?
[12:40] <finalbeta> netstat
[12:40] <justin_> I am not sure what you have but if it is Amarok, blech.
[12:40] <phate> Finalbeta: other distros do just fine with multimedia, just not Ubuntu/Debian because someone is allergic to closed source software...
[12:40] <aldur> if your a newboe like me you'll probably feck about with the configuration several time until you get it to the way that you want so starting with a simple layout is best.
[12:41] <lupine_85> phate: with a multi-millionaire behind them, Ubuntu have to be fairly careful about what they install by default
[12:41] <lupine_85> if you've got millions in the bank, *everyone* wants to sue you
[12:41] <finalbeta> phate, that's true, and a shame really, I don't get that they want to make an end user system with easy setup and do that. But on the other hand I mean that linux and multimedia should be put in the same sentence, I still get way beter sound in windows.
[12:41] <justin_> Well Linux has always been far behind especially audio wise.. the most advanced audio editors for Linux Rezound and Ardour, are like Cool Edit 96' heh
[12:41] <Vegeta> I'm just asking if system files and installed software files will be stored in /. Yes or no?
[12:42] <lupine_85> Vegeta: yes
[12:42] <lupine_85> in /
[12:42] <Vegeta> Thank you.
[12:42] <lupine_85> the directories /etc and /usr
[12:42] <sasuke> !my sound card can't be found, and its preventing me of listening to music, anyone know why it can't be found?
[12:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about my sound card can't be found, and its preventing me of listening to music, anyone know why it can't be found? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:42] <pilpi> Vegeta, (unless you define a mountpoint for /etc or /usr )
[12:42] <justin_> !soundcard
[12:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about soundcard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:42] <sasuke> !sound cards can't be found
[12:42] <justin_> !sound card
[12:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sound cards can't be found - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sound card - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:42] <justin_> :(
[12:42] <lupine_85> !audio
[12:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about audio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:42] <lupine_85> !alsa
[12:42] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[12:43] <lupine_85> :p
[12:43] <lupine_85> sound in linux is a mess
[12:43] <lupine_85> with ~7 competing sound systems, what do you expect? ;)
[12:43] <pilpi> !why I'm here or what does any of it make any difference
[12:43] <RMorris84> lupine_85: i agree and i just got here
[12:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about why I'm here or what does any of it make any difference - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:43] <justin_> Yeah it really is, if there is one thing that needs to be improved.. its sound/audio..
[12:43] <sioux> my problem with sound is that i can't play surraund 5.1
[12:43] <phate> If they are trying to make a Linux for human beings, why don't they include support for things people do, IE listening to there current music collection that they moved over from windows
[12:43] <sasuke> lupine_85, in the start bar area, it has a speaker with the mute sign on it.
[12:44] <pilpi> phate, they do.
[12:44] <RMorris84> my laptop speakers sound like poop underwater in linux but in windows it sounds like night and day
[12:44] <justin_> Cause for all intents and purposes... Linux is still back there in the early 90's when it comes to sound, but of course I can see why -- seeing as Linux has only recently been .. widely accepted as an alternative desktop system.
[12:44] <Ackeubu_> lupine_85: yes i do.. if i want to make a primary partition to a logical or extended.. i have other os on the other partitions and i cant reformat them..
[12:44] <duck1123> phate, did you get all the packages you need from the ubuntu guide?
[12:45] <dragonrider8> hello every body
[12:45] <justin_> There is no real easy solution for Linux audio, you just have to do tinkering - some people are lucky, and it goes off without a hitch but most of the time.. its meh
[12:45] <pilpi> phate, of course if you use shitty windows/apple encoded music files which are often illegal to use in linux anyway then you'll have to install them yourself, plenty of instructions on google
[12:45] <phate> duck1123: yes, I'm really just complaining that I had to take extra time to listen to my Depeche Mode albums that took ours to rip in windows, and didn't want to have to do again...
[12:45] <Vegeta> pilpi: Ok. Because I don't wont to reinstall all the softwares, if something goes wrong with the system and I have format and reinstall the all the stuff in /. So if the softwares are stored in /, that is in the same partition, they be lost too, and I have to reinstall all the programs over again. But that wont happend if they are directed to another partition. So they will installed on /etc and /usr?
[12:45] <lupine_85> sasuke: then your sound is loaded. Now you just have to stop all those different sound systems from competing with each other
[12:45] <ayeizajedi> hey everyone
[12:46] <POVaddct> phate: many end users are ignorant like you. but distributors have to care about licenses and patented software/formats.
[12:46] <Vegeta> And I i don't specify where those 2 directories will be, they will automatically be under /?
[12:46] <lupine_85> gnome installs ESD by default, which takes over all the sound hardware
[12:46] <justin_> phate: Depeche mode? -*snicker*
[12:46] <lupine_85> Vegeta: YES
[12:46] <lupine_85> oops caps sorru
[12:46] <Vegeta> np
[12:46] <justin_> phate: As long as you stick with MP3 your fine..
[12:46] <lupine_85> erm, ogg ;)
[12:47] <phate> pilpi: I can understand WMA/and Itunes Protected, but MP3?
[12:47] <pilpi> Vegeta, I'm not sure if the programs from an old linux installation work if you reinstall / but have the old /etc, /usr
[12:47] <dragonrider8> i would like to have help about ndiswrapper and pcmcia wireless card DWL-G650
[12:47] <lupine_85> MP3 is copyrighted... you have to pay for a license for the software to be legal#
[12:47] <sasuke> lupine_85, how do i do that?
[12:47] <RMorris84> phate: im with u on that one
[12:47] <justin_> pilpi: Ahh just because the ending says MP3 ;) - does not mean it is the standard version hee - some of my MP3's do not work because of it..
[12:47] <phate> lupine_85: tell that to the internet
[12:47] <lupine_85> sasuke: I havent' used gnome for ages, sorry. It'sin System->Admin somewhere
[12:47] <justin_> Same with strictly microsoft ACPM wavs.
[12:47] <dragonrider8> i know that this card work fine on ubuntu 6.06 but only in 54Mbps mode
[12:47] <POVaddct> phate: mp3 *is* patented by thomson and fraunhofer institute
[12:47] <Vegeta> pilpi: Even if it's the same version?
[12:48] <dragonrider8> i would like to make it work in 108Mbps mode
[12:48] <lupine_85> phate: I know :). But although a 2-bit coder coder can get away with writing a technically illegal application, a $20million foundation can't
[12:48] <lupine_85> ....get away with installing it by default
[12:48] <justin_> lupine_85: In theory MP3 is copyrighted.. in theory...
[12:48] <sasuke> lupine_85, can i pm you?
[12:48] <lupine_85> erm, sorry, I'm getting in the bath in a few minutes
[12:48] <RMorris84> justin_: by who?
[12:48] <sasuke> oh ok
[12:48] <richard> help ..... Program im using says specify compression program .... can i specify file roller - if so what is the path to it?
[12:48] <lupine_85> and like I said, i've not used GNOME for ages
[12:48] <pilpi> Vegeta, I'm not sure, but software installation is much easier in linux anyway than windows, and most software is installed automatically by ubuntu without you having to do anything, so I don't think it's really a big issua
[12:48] <justin_> RMorris84: Fraufenhoffer, or something to that effect.
[12:49] <bobby_> is it possible to import bookmarks from the bookmarks.html file to linux firefox?
[12:49] <justin_> Bobby, yes...HTML is platform independant.
[12:49] <sasuke> HTML is shit
[12:49] <sasuke> go PHP
[12:49] <bobby_> how do i do it or move it?
[12:49] <lupine_85> Vegeta: if your / dies, then you lose your apt database... which means that stuff in /usr becomes only marginally useful
[12:49] <bobby_> php is nice i have been working with it
[12:49] <justin_> sasuke: PHP bookmarks? why..
[12:49] <Vegeta> pilpi: Ok, I'll just give alot of space for the /, and let the /etc and /usr stay under that directory...
[12:49] <RMorris84> sasuke: doesnt really apply to what hes talking about but ya php is the shiznit
[12:49] <dibblego> PHP is an alternative to HTML? lol
[12:49] <sasuke> no PHP is just great
[12:49] <justin_> sasuke: What the heck would be the point of using a scripting lang for book marks?
[12:49] <sasuke> html is shit
[12:49] <bobby_> php protects your code and data
[12:49] <lupine_85> php is good if you're do dynamic stuff
[12:50] <lupine_85> ...lol...
[12:50] <lupine_85> course it does
[12:50] <justin_> sasuke: PHP is not a replacement for HTML...
[12:50] <sasuke> speically the noobs that use frames
[12:50] <lupine_85> for a static page, it's a waste of space
[12:50] <justin_> *shakes head*
[12:50] <RMorris84> sasuke: if im not mistaken how to u write anything in php without html lol
[12:50] <POVaddct> sasuke: you are comparing a description language with a programming language
[12:50] <richard> is there any kind of program that will allow me to compare data change from a website over time
[12:50] <sasuke> RMorris84, you use little of php
[12:50] <sasuke> html*
[12:50] <lupine_85> RMorris84: obvious, really. You use XML + a suitable DTD... that emulates HTML...
[12:50] <justin_> sasuke: Anyways, here is my warning - dont babble.. because what you just said did not make any sense.
[12:50] <sasuke> or that
[12:50] <duck1123> XHTML
[12:50] <lupine_85> sasuke: all the display is still done using html... it's just the content that's generated dynamically
[12:50] <pilpi> sasuke, really. ever heard that PHP is used mostly for producing html? :)
[12:51] <dibblego> what ever happened to #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[12:51] <richard> lol
[12:51] <Vegeta> lupine_85: So it would be best if I create another partition for /etc and /usr, or use an extended partition, where I have /home /etc and /usr???
[12:51] <dibblego> PHP is a pile of crap, anyone who has used functional languages will attest to that, but it's all off-topic anyway
[12:51] <RMorris84> lupine_85: ive always used html in my php... im not the worlds greatest programmer but i can do php basics for what i need.. didnt even know xml was an option.. lol
[12:52] <justin_> bobby_: Anyways, simply export your bookmarks - and then place them in a directory on your linux machine, and through firefox go to your bookmark manager and import them.
[12:52] <RMorris84> !offtopic
[12:52] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:52] <pilpi> Vegeta, you can't have two directories mounted on the same partition like that
[12:52] <bobby_> ok i got it
[12:52] <bobby_> i figured out to just import them from the file
[12:52] <lupine_85> pilpi: with logical partitions inside the extended one, you can
[12:52] <justin_> bobby_: good
[12:52] <lupine_85> Vegeta: personally I'd just stick with having /home on a separate partion
[12:52] <pilpi> lupine_85, well then they're different partitions, not one logical partition
[12:52] <lupine_85> and leave the rest on the / artition
[12:53] <lupine_85> pilpi: true. Note that he said "use an extended partition..."
[12:53] <timruff> hello
[12:53] <lupine_85> now I must get in the bath
[12:53] <lagarto> alguien habla espaol?????
[12:53] <bobby_> si por que?
[12:53] <justin_> lagarto: Umm nope.. I think they have diff lang rooms though
[12:53] <lagarto> me puedes ayudar??
[12:53] <pilpi> lupine_85, oh, yeah. right :)
[12:53] <RMorris84> anybody got a spca5xx webcam to work in ubuntu?
[12:54] <bobby_> the font on these are so much bigger
[12:54] <bimberi> !es
[12:54] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:54] <dibblego> lagarto, #ubuntu-es
[12:54] <Vegeta> pilpi: Can the / partition be an extended one? Where I can place the /etc and /usr. So that if / dies it wont effect /etc and /usr?
[12:54] <lagarto> thanx!!!
[12:54] <justin_> bobby_: Yeah, it takes some time toget adpated to the Linux fonts, as compared to the windows ones.
[12:54] <bobby_> it is the same resolution i think
[12:54] <bobby_> damn it
[12:55] <phate> lupine_85: well if they are a $20mil foundation why don't they just buy a license?
[12:55] <justin_> bobby_: Yeah, again simply a difference in fonttypes.
[12:55] <bobby_> i wonder if i can change it to match
[12:55] <justin_> bobby_: Sure you can always tweak with cairo
[12:55] <justin_> I left mine as is.. Windows has some oogly fonts.
[12:55] <bobby_> what does windows use by default?
[12:56] <justin_> No clue, I have not used windows since 3.1..
[12:56] <bobby_> i have but i am just now learning linux
[12:56] <bobby_> i feel it's a good idea
[12:56] <pilpi> Vegeta, yeah you can create an extended partition, then create logical partitions inside that extended one, then mount /home on one of them and / on one of them for example
[12:56] <justin_> Im sure a quick google will tell you that
[12:56] <bobby_> dual boot
[12:57] <justin_> bobby_: At the end of the day, its not a competition heh, it's whatever works best for you - for me personally, Linux does what I need quicker then the others - so yup.
[12:58] <phate> Please pardon my ranting, I didn't mean to cause an issue :P
[12:58] <bobby_> yeah
[12:58] <bobby_> linux uses my 64 bit better
[12:58] <bobby_> and i need to learn it to get hired for more stuff
[12:58] <RMorris84> im looking for a way to get rid of my windows partition.. :) but i need to save some files off of it before i do it, i have like 10g free on the same partition, whats the easiest way to make a fat32 partition off that to save some files so i dont lose, so i can then reformat what is left on the windows partition....? ;)
[12:59] <bobby_> i believe so
[12:59] <justin_> bobby_: There you go, anyways - few weeks you'll be all good, windows is even a pain during the first few weeks when you learn it.
[12:59] <Vegeta> pilpi: Well I was more thinking of 1 extended partition (where I have /, /etc and /usr) and 1 primary partition (where I have /home). But since I don't know how much space /etc nad /usr will be needing, I geuss I just leave /etc and /usr under the / partition. Wouldn't that be better?
[12:59] <justin_> RMorris84: Why do you need a FAT32 partition to save the files on your windows partition?
[12:59] <justin_> RMorris84: You can just copy the files to your Linux disk..
[12:59] <bobby_> yeah
[01:00] <bobby_> first was unix on mac's years ago
[01:00] <bobby_> then windows 3.1
[01:00] <bobby_> i hated windows 95 at first
[01:00] <bobby_> hated it so bad
[01:00] <bobby_> now i am ready for linux
[01:00] <bobby_> and i got a head start
[01:00] <RMorris84> justin_: well yea, but theres a problem i forgot to mention, i already filled up this partition so thats why im doing this... (i gotta lotta music...)
[01:00] <pilpi> Vegeta, probably. it's not much use to have them separate unless you really know what you're doing anyway. I don't :)
[01:01] <justin_> RMorris84: Haha, well you could always attach the drive to your machine - and simply mount it as a an msdos drive
[01:01] <justin_> -a
[01:02] <juan> !fstab
[01:02] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[01:02] <Vegeta> hehe. And I'm a huge newb since I JUST started using linux :P. Btw is the / supposed to be on hda1 or is it unimportant where it will be?
[01:02] <justin_> RMorris84: Well either way you will either have to mount it--- or delete everything, because of course you cannot change partition types, and save data
[01:02] <justin_> You could always upload your files to filefront, and then download them to your new EXT2 formatted disk :)
[01:02] <RMorris84> justin_: i got like 25 gig over there... not much i need to keep... is it possible to do what i want? and i am in the process of getting a 3.5"disk case that turns it into usb2.0 but i wanna do this for the time being
[01:02] <neenaoffline> my gdm themed greeter crashes . I edited my gdm.conf-custom by hand because of some other reason , what do I do now?
[01:02] <justin_> RMorris84: Say again exactly what you have in mind, because my text buffer is very small.
[01:03] <juan> whats the line i should use to mount a fat partition with rights to edit it?
[01:03] <juan> !fat
[01:03] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[01:03] <justin_> r+w
[01:03] <RMorris84> ok i have a windows partition on about 25 gig with 10g free, i want to make a fat32 on it to put files that i need to keep so i can wipe windows off
[01:04] <Ackeubu_> AAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaargh.
[01:04] <RMorris84> but my partition i have ubuntu on is almost full so i cant put it here lol
[01:04] <justin_> RMorris84: Partition magic.
[01:04] <Vegeta> pilpi?
[01:04] <Ackeubu_> I cant find my partitions.. in media. i have sda3..  when i do df i dont get sda3...
[01:04] <neenaoffline> RMorris84: gparted ?
[01:04] <justin_> RMorris84: But you will more then likely end up, deleting all of the disk data... - so your pretty much out of luck I'd say
[01:05] <RMorris84> hmm so i should transfer it off to an external drive then do that...
[01:05] <justin_> RMorris84: Yeah, that would be prudent.. - because although possible, you will most likely end up losing all your data if you do not back it.
[01:06] <Vegeta> Is the / supposed to be on hda1 or is it unimportant where it will be, or is swap supposed to be on hda1?
[01:06] <justin_> Vegeta: HDA1 should be /
[01:06] <justin_> Swap can be anywhere
[01:06] <Vegeta> ok
[01:06] <pilpi> Vegeta, depends on your system. probably it's good to have it on some bootable drive but I guess in modern machines they're all bootable
[01:07] <pilpi> of course if you still happen to drag alonw windows like some do, it tends to be on hda1
[01:07] <justin_> My 3.2 gig, is a dedicated swap station :))
[01:07] <pilpi> although not necessarily
[01:07] <Vegeta> pilpi: nahh I eliminated windows :P
[01:07] <RMorris84> justin_: tell me this, if i were to say want to redo my whole disk... how would i go about backing up what i have in linux... bc i might just do that, if i can transfer what i have off of here completely off to an external drive, i would like to setup ubuntu solely on my laptop
[01:07] <pilpi> we'll be seeing you around a lot then :))
[01:07] <Vegeta> hahaha yeah I guess so ;)
[01:08] <Ackeubu_> gparted shows that i have my ubuntu on /dev/sda5 i have an other ext3 on /dev/sda4. but i cant mount it... i think...
[01:08] <RMorris84> justin_: i would like to be able to keep my xorg conf also is that possible?
[01:08] <justin_> RMorris84: Same way you back up any other disk - copy the files to a CD, or other external media ;)
[01:08] <justin_> RMorris84: Yes - /etc/X11/xorg.conf - save it outside the rest of your back up, and then overwrite the new one when you re-install.
[01:09] <justin_> RMorris84: But that is to say, that your laptop has the same video card type heh... if not you should only save the options parts, and let Ubuntu find the right driver - and tinker as needed.
[01:09] <Enselic> Has anyone here ever had a problem with gdp passing the path of the executable as the first program argument?
[01:09] <ayeizajedi> anyone succeed in getting a freecom DVB adapter working in ubuntu ?  im unable to build the channel list.. anyone with ideas ?
[01:10] <justin_> RMorris84: Oh and as for backing up - you really only need to backup what you cannot restore in Synaptic... mostly /home/~user/alldirs
[01:11] <Ackeubu_> how would i find "/dev/sda4" to add it to grub?
[01:11] <RMorris84> justin_: and would i still have all my programs that i didnt get in synaptic?
[01:11] <justin_> Even the hidden ones, in thunar (XFCE) its ctrl-h - I am not sure how you display hidden files in the other file managers, but you want to back up all the .program - config files also.
[01:11] <justin_> RMorris84: Nope, but those are in ---- /usr/local/bin.
[01:12] <pilpi> Ackeubu_, what have you got on that device?
[01:12] <justin_> They may lack libs when you re-install however, add as needed through synaptic.
[01:12] <pilpi> Ackeubu_, or partition I mean
[01:12] <Ackeubu_> pilpi: another linux distro im trying to get running
[01:13] <justin_> RMorris84: P.s you should look around synaptic, I am sure there is backup programs for linux ;)
[01:13] <RMorris84> justin_: good call
[01:13] <justin_> I am not sure, because I only back documents to CD
[01:13] <bobby_> is there a wifi bar upgrader that tells me on the menu next to the battery how strong the signal is?
[01:13] <pilpi> Ackeubu_, see what you got in /boot/grub/menu.lst and copy based on that another entry there
[01:15] <Ackeubu_> pilpi: thats the issue.... hehe ill show you
[01:16] <neenaoffline> I edited my gdm.conf-custom by hand because of some reason , my gdm themed greeter crashes now . what do I do?
[01:16] <Ackeubu_> pilpi: this gives me stomack aches.. title		Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.17-7-386
[01:16] <Ackeubu_> root		(hd0,4)
[01:16] <Ackeubu_> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-7-386 root=UUID=7ccaa194-f407-47c2-a90b-ac9e2c43f491 ro quiet
[01:16] <bohemian> did you back up your gdm.conf-custom ?
[01:16] <Ackeubu_> hows that supposed to help me..
[01:17] <neenaoffline> bohemian: no
[01:17] <Ackeubu_> pilpi: my root should be (hd0,2).. and i have my boot/kernel. but root /dev/sda4 ?!?!?!? is the best i can come up with
[01:18] <Ackeubu_> doesnt feel right though... never seen a /dev/sda* in a grub...
[01:18] <Subhuman> Ackeubu_, if you have  a sata drive, then sda is no problem
[01:18] <pilpi> title           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-26-k7
[01:18] <pilpi> root            (hd0,4)
[01:18] <pilpi> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-k7 root=/dev/hda5 ro quiet splash
[01:18] <pilpi> initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-26-k7
[01:18] <pilpi> savedefault
[01:19] <neenaoffline> how do I fix it ? it's only the themed greeter that crashes ...
[01:19] <pilpi> Ackeubu_, how's customizing that?
[01:20] <pilpi> Ackeubu_, run fdisk on /dev/hda and see there what partition it actually is /dev/sda*
[01:20] <Ackeubu_> pilpi: better but.. aint gonna use initrd. om not sure about ro whats that and when to use? okay i try fdisk again. i cant run it in ubuntu though. its weird
[01:21] <Ackeubu_>  sudo fdisk /dev/hda
[01:21] <Ackeubu_> Unable to open /dev/hda
[01:21] <Ackeubu_> ???
[01:21] <Ackeubu_> im running acer
[01:21] <pilpi> Ackeubu_, I'm not sure if all you got there should be umounted first
[01:22] <Ackeubu_> pilPI OKAY
[01:22] <Ackeubu_> pilpi thanks ill give it a try
[01:27] <bohemian> my lock session icon in gnome disappeared when I updated to dapper. anyone know how I can get it back?
[01:29] <neutrinomass> bohemian: you mean the icon when logging out ?
[01:29] <Subhuman> bohemian, right click the panel, click Add to Panel, and find it in the list.
[01:29] <Subhuman> its called lock screen by memory
[01:30] <bohemian> it's not there
[01:30] <bohemian> i looked already
[01:30] <bohemian> it's not there
[01:30] <juan> is it possible to run 1 program across multiple sessions e.g have the same gaim running in gnome and kde at the same time
[01:31] <bohemian> the only one I have is 'quit'
[01:31] <jayt> audio issue for music  when logging in but I don't have any sound in chromium any ideas (I have set the volume up on chromium inside the game for both music and sound effects)
[01:32] <TEN> Has anyone managed to get http://dl.bytesex.org/cvs-snapshots/xawtv-20060816-102024.tar.gz compiled? Contrary to documentation, ./configure needs to be created autogen.sh - and then seems to like neither gcc-4.0.3 nor 3.4 (claims they would not build binaries).
[01:32] <Godfather> g' day guys
[01:33] <Godfather> i have seriuos problem
[01:33] <TEN> BTW why don't the installers created a symlink /usr/bin/gcc to the actual versions? Pretty much every Makefile in existence seems to expect this...
[01:33] <TEN> -d
[01:33] <bobby_> i need different resolution
[01:33] <Godfather> we have 4 laptop
[01:33] <bobby_> my monitor is widescreen
[01:33] <Godfather> and 1 connection
[01:34] <Godfather> so one of us works as server
[01:34] <Godfather> and the othe are connected to him by wireless
[01:34] <Godfather> now
[01:34] <Godfather> if i run windows there's no problem
[01:34] <piratepenguin> anyone using Xen to run a modified gnu/linux distro inside ubuntu (e.g. if you don't have vitalisation support in your cpu)?
[01:34] <Godfather> but if i'm under ubuntu
[01:34] <qK_> anyone know of a reall good music organizer program?
[01:34] <Godfather> i can see the net
[01:34] <Godfather> i configure it
[01:35] <RMorris84> Godfather: u need a router dude
[01:35] <piratepenguin> qK_: amaroK, banshee ?
[01:35] <jayt> !wireless > Godfather
[01:35] <lupine_85> qK: amarok :)
[01:35] <Godfather> i got the ip
[01:35] <lupine_85> RMorris84: probably not. More likely just a bit of tweaking required
[01:35] <Godfather> it tells me the it is connected at the net
[01:35] <Godfather> but i can't surf on internet
[01:35] <lupine_85> Godfather: can you ping the gateway IP ?
[01:36] <lupine_85> e.g. does ping <ip> return any error message?
[01:36] <Godfather> no in this moment
[01:36] <Godfather> now i'm under winshit
[01:36] <lupine_85> lol
[01:36] <Jack_Sparrow> godfather, please avoid using the enter key for punctuation.  All on one line makes it easier on the other 857 people in the channel
[01:37] <lupine_85> if you can ping the gateway under linux, then either you don't have a default route set, or your DNS isn't configured properly
[01:37] <lupine_85> route is easy to check - "ip route show" -- if there's no line with "default" then create one: "sudo ip route add default via <ip> dev <interface>"
[01:38] <maploin> is there a way to find out what files a specific package downloads?
[01:38] <lupine_85> DNS - if it's that, you'll be able to ping IP addresses, but not domain names, of things on the Internet. Just add a working DNS server to /etc/resolv.conf
[01:42] <jayt> starting chromium from the command line I get this : Could not load alAttenuationScale        any ideas
[01:42] <qK_> anyone here ever installed UT2k4 or FPS games on Linux?
[01:42] <smacky_wolf> Can someone possibly tell me how to use xgl, so I can get all the funky stuff I;ve been hearing so much about?
[01:43] <lupine_85> !xgl
[01:43] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:43] <qK_> if you have ati, good luck intalling it
[01:43] <qK_> smacky_wolf:  do you have ati or nvidia?
[01:43] <smacky_wolf> qK, NV
[01:43] <qK_> good
[01:43] <jayt> smacky_wolf, head on over to #ubuntu-xgl and they will help you with it, it is beta software cheers
[01:44] <qK_> :)
[01:44] <smacky_wolf> jayt, thanks <3
[01:44] <orbin> jayt: installed via repos?
[01:44] <Jack_Sparrow> qK_: I installed Sauerbratten, worked fine
[01:44] <jayt> orbin, not in dapper
[01:44] <qK_> Jack_Sparrow:  what?
[01:44] <jayt> orbin, for my own issue yes
[01:44] <Jack_Sparrow> qK_: I have Serious Sam for MS and I used the Loki INstallers to get it running under linux
[01:45] <skar> hi, i'm using breezy , is there a way to view streaming windows media on ubuntu/firefox?
[01:45] <frogzoo> xgl runs fine in dapper
[01:45] <jayt> !restricted > skar
[01:45] <orbin> jayt: i presume the game dowsn't load
[01:45] <Jack_Sparrow> qK_: Sauerbratten is free fps for linux
[01:45] <jayt> orbin, it does but there are no sounds
[01:45] <qK_> Jack_Sparrow:  oh well im trying to run like UT2k4 so im wondering
[01:46] <jayt> orbin, I did it form the command line to see what error it would throw
[01:46] <jayt> skar, read the message from the bot
[01:47] <Jack_Sparrow> qK_: Windows version under WIne or a Linux Version
[01:47] <qK_> oh yea doesnt UT2k4 ahve a linux instalation?
[01:47] <FirstStrike> yes, it does. it's on the cd/dvd.
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> qK_: http://sauerbraten.org/      http://liflg.org/?catid=6
[01:48] <nikin> i have a question much like that... i have installed Wolfenstein ET .. it starts fine... but i dont see nothing just a black screen... i hear the music and the sound of the menu when i move the mouse, but dont see nothing on the screen
[01:48] <skar> jayt: thanks
[01:49] <skar> jayt: will look into it and come back
[01:49] <jayt> skar, your welcome
[01:49] <qK_> nikin:  yea my buddy installed UT manually and it heard sound and everyhting but it didnt show up, just a black screen
[01:50] <qK_> so i was wondering if it was een compatible, then io heard UT has a linux installation
[01:50] <Jack_Sparrow> qK_: Yes it works
[01:50] <FirstStrike> If you look on the UT2k4 cd/dvd (whichever version you have) there should be a file named (if my memory serves correct) linux-installer.sh
[01:51] <FirstStrike> you just open a command prompt, cd to the directory and type sh linux-installer.sh (or whatever it's named)
[01:51] <FirstStrike> and it goes from there
[01:51] <qK_> oh aha!
[01:51] <qK_> i see it :) <3
[01:51] <qK_> um do what
[01:51] <FirstStrike> open a command prompt/terminal
[01:52] <qK_> k
[01:52] <beachbuddah> gm (EDT) all
[01:52] <Jack_Sparrow> FirstStrike: I commend your patience
[01:52] <qK_> Jack_Sparrow:  ok
[01:52] <FirstStrike> cd to the directory it's in (for example: cd /dir/blah/whatever)
[01:52] <qK_> oops wrong person
[01:52] <qK_> ok done
[01:52] <FirstStrike> Jack_Sparrow: I'm feeling nice right now. It'll pass :P
[01:53] <FirstStrike> type: sh linux-installer.sh
[01:53] <mtholdenss> i never knew blender 3D could be so powerful after watching a few vids....
[01:53] <FirstStrike> Those 3d modelling programs confuse the heck out of me. I'll never be able to use them.
[01:53] <nikin> blender is powerfull like a nuclearpowerplant :D
[01:53] <nikin> blender rules!
[01:54] <qK_> ugh
[01:54] <qK_> i forget the cpmmands for cd'ing
[01:54] <qK_> help
[01:54] <FirstStrike> ....
[01:54] <FirstStrike> cd is the command
[01:54] <bohemian> 'cd'
[01:54] <nikin> cd
[01:54] <mtholdenss> yeh blender is awesome...
[01:54] <Jenga> Is sudo apt-get upgrade from the terminal the same as hitting reload in Synaptic or do you need to run one before the other?
[01:54] <Jack_Sparrow> FirstStrike: cd means change directory
[01:55] <FirstStrike> Jack_Sparrow: Yes..I know.
[01:55] <Jack_Sparrow> FirstStrike: Sorry tab by mistake
[01:55] <nikin> Jenga: thesame
[01:55] <orbin> Jenga: sudo apt-get update is equivalent to hitting reload.
[01:55] <Jenga> thanks
[01:55] <qK_> i forget, used linux months ago i forget how to navigate to a cd
[01:55] <orbin> Jenga: NB: update, not upgrade
[01:55] <FirstStrike> it should be somewhere such as /media/cdrom
[01:55] <FirstStrike> so cd /media/cdrom
[01:55] <nikin> Orbin you are right...
[01:56] <sioux> hi who show me a good guide for install 3d on ati?
[01:56] <FirstStrike> if you have mulitple drives then it might be something like cdrom0
[01:56] <Jenga> : Yes sorry. I meant update. Brain fart
[01:56] <FirstStrike> !ati
[01:56] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:56] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati > sioux
[01:57] <orbin> jayt: well it's either something to do w/ openal w/ever that is, or something w/ the way ubuntu's sound system works: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6558
[01:57] <Ackeubu_> heelp. Ive tried to find my gentoo partition for grub... im on an Acer. My gentoo partition is on dev/sda4. I tried to add it to grub like this:
[01:57] <Ackeubu_> root (hd0,3)
[01:57] <Ackeubu_> kernel /boot/kernel-2.6.17-gentoo-r7 root=/dev/sda4 but i get the error root cant be found.. and im stuck..
[01:57] <FirstStrike> !pastebin > Ackeubu_
[01:57] <jayt> orbin, thanks I'll have a look now
[01:57] <sioux> thanks
[01:57] <Ackeubu_> FirstStrike: thanks
[01:57] <orbin> jayt: NB: the guy didn't find a solution ... besides moving back to suse :-/
[01:57] <jayt> orbin, not an option ;-)
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> Ackeubu_,  check that sda4 really is the right drive for your root partttiion.
[01:58] <bam_> hi.I am having a little problem with "dpkg". Whenever I try to install anything it gives me an error saying "dpkg: error processing kubuntu (--install): cannot access archive: No such file or directory"
[01:58] <nikin> !intel
[01:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:58] <nikin> lol
[01:58] <orbin> ...and that's a really old thread (filed under warty) ... maybe check if someone filed a bug on it
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> Ackeubu_,  and whats the filesstem  on the drive (thats the 2 main things that may be the issue)
[01:58] <bam_> it works when I try to remove or purge anything, but not when I try to install anything.
[01:58] <bam_> any ideas?
[01:58] <sioux> matrox????  now 3d works with matrox too? humm interesting
[01:58] <qK_> omg, i totally forget how to navigate to the dman file
[01:59] <jayt> bam_, put your "/etc/apt/sources.list" in paste.ubuntu-nl.org thanks
[01:59] <FirstStrike> qK_: we've all told you several times. perhaps it's time to google 'how to cd to a file' :)
[01:59] <Jack_Sparrow> qK_: Post your fstab to the pastebin   gedit  /etc/fstab   (sudo cp /etc/fstab ~/fstab.backup to make a backup)
[02:00] <Ackeubu_> Dr_Willis: its ext3
[02:00] <FirstStrike> he doesn't need to modify his pastebin Jack_Sparrow
[02:00] <FirstStrike> er
[02:00] <FirstStrike> fstab
[02:00] <Ackeubu_> Dr_Willis: in gparted i set the drive to boot as well
[02:00] <xhaan> hmm.. it seems sometimes when i get a software update notice while im doing something my system can hang... whats up with that?
[02:00] <bam_> I have all the ubuntu server and a couple of other sites there. I can use "Synaptic" to install, but not dpkg.
[02:00] <Jack_Sparrow> I know I was just trying to locate his cdrom
[02:01] <FirstStrike> if he only has one cdrom drive then it'll be /media/cdrom
[02:01] <Jenga> One more question. In the preset search filters in Synaptic, what's the difference between Upgradable and Upgradable (Upstream)
[02:01] <Ackeubu_> Dr
[02:01] <Jack_Sparrow> FirstStrike:  We would hope...
[02:01] <driz__> does anyone know how to get gnome-terminal to use ansi fonts so bitchx irc client looks how its supposed to????
[02:01] <sioux> Is this card ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x (rev 02) ok for 3d?
[02:01] <Ackeubu_> Dr_Willis: gparted also shows it as dev/sda4. filesystem is ext3 and flags is boot
[02:01] <bam_> I posted it under the name "bam_"
[02:01] <FirstStrike> I really don't know how much clearer I can be.
[02:01] <Czar005> When I restart apache2, I see this: httpd (pid 7969) already running   and the changes ive made don't take. Whats going on?
[02:02] <FirstStrike> Hmm..maybe.
[02:02] <Jack_Sparrow> FirstStrike: Not much other than keystroke by k e y s t r o k e
[02:02] <justin_> Anyone know of any good Ubuntu games?
[02:02] <Ackeubu_> Dr_Willis: it doesnt show any mount point when im in ubuntu
[02:02] <Jack_Sparrow> justin_: FPS or ?
[02:03] <sioux> Can use this video card ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x (rev 02) for 3d desktop?
[02:03] <justin_> Jack_Sparrow: No matter what genre
[02:03] <lupine_85> Czar005: sudo killall apache2; /etc/init.d/apach3 start (probably)
[02:03] <Jack_Sparrow> justin_: My wife likes frozen bubble, I like Sauerbraten
[02:03] <lupine_85> or kill 7969 I guess
[02:03] <bam_> jayt,any ideas?
[02:03] <maploin> does anybody know how i can see what files a package contains? and where did it get them from initially? like a link?
[02:03] <FirstStrike> qK_: Open a terminal. Type: cd /media/cdrom and press enter. Then type: dir It should list the contents of the cd (theoretically)
[02:03] <justin_> Jack_Sparrow: Synaptic?
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> justin_: For bubble yes
[02:04] <lupine_85> maploin: dpkg -L <package> will tell you all the installed files
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> justin_:  http://sauerbraten.org/
[02:04] <qK_> ok done
[02:04] <lupine_85> as for where they come from... just browse the repo with a browser
[02:04] <FirstStrike> qK_: do you see a list of files in the terminal?
[02:04] <driz__> does anyone know how to get gnome-terminal to use ansi fonts so bitchx irc client looks how its supposed to????
[02:04] <qK_> yes
[02:05] <justin_> Jack_Sparrow: ok
[02:05] <Healot> hey, if you installed gnome, the basics are in the documentation
[02:05] <FirstStrike> qK_: is something along the lines of linux-installer.sh there?
[02:05] <lupine_85> e.g. http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[02:05] <qK_> yes
[02:05] <maploin> lupine_85: no, i mean the containing files, something like a link for each file
[02:05] <FirstStrike> qK_: type: sh linux-installer.sh
[02:05] <justin_> Jack_Sparrow: Speaking of which, last one since it goes off topic - but are you aware if Counterstrike, still requires keys and all that nonsense to play?
[02:05] <lupine_85> maploin: maybe in the Packages.gz ?
[02:06] <lupine_85> the .deb file itself is stored in /var/apt/cache, IIRC
[02:06] <Jack_Sparrow> justin_: No idea.. Never played it
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> Ackeubu_,  under ubuntu, fdisk -l, dosent show the partition?
[02:06] <lupine_85> or /var/cache/apt
[02:06] <justin_> Jack_Sparrow: ok
[02:07] <Neo8750> !cups > Neo8750
[02:07] <Jack_Sparrow> FirstStrike: Well done....
[02:07] <M3G4crux> HI
[02:08] <M3G4crux> how can I set the console resolution to a higher one, some time ago when I used Debian I only had to edit the boot parameter of the kernel, but now it seems it just ignores it
[02:08] <FirstStrike> Yes..I have filled my quota for the year.
[02:08] <FirstStrike> Back to being grumpy.
[02:08] <jayt> bam_, you have plf and lots of _none_ ubuntu repos in there - something is not right there - I see bleeding edge wine I would not be comfortable with that
[02:08] <Hazarath> Ok, new problem... had a hard drive connected to my system, couldn't get ntfs to write, so... formatted, now the dive still won't write, and it's under vfat.
[02:08] <M3G4crux> I had tried this one but I am not sure -> video=intelfb:mtrr,noaccel:3,ywrap,1920x1200-32@60
[02:08] <Jack_Sparrow> FirstStrike: Not having finished my first cup of coffee I would have probably trout slapped him
[02:08] <bam_> ok,I will look at it.
[02:09] <FirstStrike> haha
[02:09] <qK_> lol Jack_Sparrow
[02:09] <juan> is there a reason a script cant be marked as executable?
[02:09] <lupine_85> juan: on a ro filesystem?
[02:09] <FirstStrike> I haven't gone to bed yet.
[02:09] <bam_> One more thing, "type" doesnt work on my pc...any ideas?
[02:09] <mtholdenss> how to upgrade to blender 2.42 i got 2.41
[02:09] <lupine_85> just bash <scriptname>
[02:09] <Ackeubu_> Dr_Willis: right it doesnt
[02:09] <bam_> does it have something to do with this?
[02:09] <mtholdenss> how to upgrade to blender 2.42 i got 2.41
[02:09] <M3G4crux> can anyhone help me with the resolution of the console?
[02:09] <Hazarath> Need to write to my vfat drive, writing doesn't work currently.
[02:09] <lupine_85> !blender
[02:09] <ubotu> blender is a free application for 3D modelling, animation, rendering, etc. You can install it from Ubuntu's repositories, and tutorials are at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro
[02:10] <juan> nope i just added a folder so the system cant be ro
[02:10] <jayt> orbin, okay playing with al libs now - will let you know if I kludge it into working
[02:10] <qK_> how do you unmopunt and remount a cdrom?
[02:10] <Ackeubu_> Dr_Willis: but sudo fdisk -l does ;)
[02:10] <Jack_Sparrow> bam_: Please tell me that was a joke.. :)
[02:10] <bam_> ....it wasent?
[02:10] <bam_> should it have been?
[02:11] <bam_> or was that a complete newb question...?
[02:11] <FirstStrike> qK_: with the umount and mount commands
[02:11] <Ackeubu_> Dr_Willis: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22994
[02:11] <Hazarath> FirstStrike, can you help me?
[02:11] <FirstStrike> qK_: type man umount and man mount in a terminal for a description of the commands and how to use them.
[02:11] <jhasse> How can i change the design of the checkboxes in firefox to the standard human theme?
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Hazarath: Diskmounter Script   http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  for mounting NTFS, Fat32 and NFS Drives Most people need to restart X before the Drive Icons show on the desktop  .. after saving the page to your desktop use terminal and type cd /home/your_username_here/Desktop
[02:12] <tuxlifan> Hello, is there a reason why /etc/login.defs was changed to have ENV_SUPATH with /usr/local/(s)bin before /usr/(s)bin ?
[02:12] <knoppix> need help with sahring usb adsl modem connection over local network
[02:12] <jolt> Anyone know how to get Edgy to stop trying to restart terminal sessions when logging in single user mode?
[02:12] <mtholdenss> shortcut to take screenshot?
[02:12] <Hazarath> Jack_Sparrow, it's readable. Just can't write, or enable write for that matter: it'll let you check 'write', but won't keep it.
[02:12] <mtholdenss> !sceenshot
[02:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sceenshot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:13] <mtholdenss> !screenshot
[02:13] <ubotu> Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr]  button or the file -> acquire menu in the Gimp. Screenshots can be posted on the !pastebin
[02:13] <FirstStrike> Hazarath: did you setup your fstab properly?
[02:13] <Hazarath> FirstStrike, Pardon? Wassat?
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> bam_:  When someone tells you to go to a terminal and "type blah blah...  Type is NOT a command... it is what you do
[02:13] <FirstStrike> hmm, i wonder if there's an !fstab
[02:13] <Hazarath> Press 'any key'.
[02:13] <FirstStrike> !fstab
[02:13] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[02:13] <FirstStrike> woo
[02:14] <jhasse> How can i change the design of the checkboxes in firefox to the standard human theme?
[02:14] <bam_> no...not that. I mean when I am looking for a program...I try for example "type kde" and it gives me all the synapsis with "kde"...that doesnt work. HEHE
[02:15] <bam_> that WOULD be a really bad mistake to do...hehe
[02:15] <Hexidigital_> jhasse: system > preferences > themes
[02:15] <Ackeubu_> Hey you guys. im going crazy .. my gentoo boot on sda4 doesnt work. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22996
[02:15] <Jack_Sparrow> bam_: Forgive me, but I hope you understand how I interpreted your statement
[02:15] <Hazarath> FirstStrike, the drive is on my desktop, and I can read what's in it, it just won't accept my trying to change permissions... I can change 'read' and 'exicute', but not 'write'.
[02:15] <jayt> bam_, sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop < that may help
[02:15] <Hexidigital_> jhasse: sorry, i misread that
[02:16] <jhasse> Hexidigital: ok
[02:16] <bam_> its ok, I should have formulatet it differently.
[02:16] <bam_> jayt, I will try.
[02:16] <FirstStrike> Hazarath: type gedit /etc/fstab in a terminal and put it on pastebin then send us the link
[02:16] <qK_> < installing UT2004
[02:16] <Hexidigital_> jhasse: i think there's an extension for that, but i'm not sure...
[02:16] <jhasse> Hexidigital_: thx, i will look for it
[02:17] <bennou> bonjour tout le monde
[02:17] <bam_> oh,I have kubuntu-desktop already. Thats why I am a bit surprised about the whole "type" problem.
[02:18] <Hazarath> Pastebin is like... dead.
[02:18] <bennou> oops, i'm on an english chat, so my english is so poor taht i have to go...
[02:18] <justin_> Who told me about Saurebraten?
[02:18] <Furry> j
[02:18] <FirstStrike> Hazarath: pops right up for me.
[02:19] <jayt> Hazarath, here is a pastebin that works paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:19] <Jack_Sparrow> justin_: me
[02:19] <FirstStrike> There's really no servers for it though.
[02:20] <FirstStrike> I was saddened when I went to play it.
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> FirstStrike: I just play in single user mode against the pc..
[02:21] <FirstStrike> Ehh doesn't do it for me.
[02:21] <Hazarath> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22997
[02:22] <Jack_Sparrow> FirstStrike: http://www.cubeengine.com/forum.php4?action=display_thread&thread_id=12  perm server info
[02:22] <Hazarath> FirstStrike, got the code?
[02:22] <afd_> dapper > edgy. Does the upgrade work? Should I try it? Is edgy stable for daily use?
[02:23] <Losty1981> for some reason my wireless card is no longer being recognized.....where do I look to configure?
[02:23] <sioux> afd if i were you i will wait
[02:23] <juan> i have a shell script run_aspell.sh but i cant give it permision to be run, i can edit rights i can add files to the dir but why cant i make it executable?
[02:23] <TheCobra> hi
[02:24] <TheCobra> somebody has exp. with dualscreen
[02:24] <hoehave1> does anyone here use ubuntu 6.10 knot 2 that knows how to fix a firefox error that, when i go to myspace, firefox closes.it started closing when i tryed to sing in but i installed some stuff(dont know what)and not it just wont show up when i try to view my profile
[02:24] <hoehave1> like i said firefox closes
[02:24] <driz__> Does anyone know how to get ansi fonts to work for gnome terminal??? im tryign to make bitchx client look how its supposed to
[02:24] <hoehave1> wow that was kinda long....my bad
[02:24] <Hazarath> TheCobra, I herd it's not very nice.
[02:24] <FirstStrike> Hazarath: change the end of /dev/sda1 to iocharset=utf8,umask=000  0    0 and save it (you'll need to sudo gedit /etc/fstab in order to overwrite the file)
[02:24] <TheCobra> hazarath it works but
[02:25] <TheCobra> I cannot move a screen from screen 1 to screen 2
[02:25] <Nameeater> a screen or a program?
[02:25] <morbid88> hi all. How do I set up ndiswrapper to activate drivers on startup?
[02:25] <Ash-Fox> screen program!
[02:25] <Blissex> TheCobra: you may need Xinerama for that.
[02:26] <FirstStrike> afd_: Edgy is still in development stages. It is not recommended for you to upgrade your current Dapper installation at this time. Rather, you should install Edgy on its own partition instead as it is not a stable release yet. Many things are broken/will break as of yet.
[02:26] <Losty1981> hi morbid hang 2 secs
[02:26] <morbid88> thanks, Losty1981
[02:26] <Losty1981> install ndisgtk package
[02:26] <afd_> FirstStrike: thanks for advice
[02:26] <bam_> does anyone know a shell command to increase/decrease the volume of a pc?
[02:26] <Nameeater> alsamixer
[02:26] <Losty1981> check to make sure you have all the repositories checked in synaptic
[02:26] <Hazarath> TheCobra, That's what I was told. Only works in clone mode.
[02:26] <Losty1981> search for ndisgtk
[02:26] <Nameeater> its a curses based app tho
[02:27] <Hazarath> FirstStrike, Now what? Re-start the shell?
[02:27] <morbid88> Losty1981: is thtat for me?
[02:27] <Losty1981> and install -- makes ndiswrapper a breeze -- its a gui -- worked to make it start up on mine
[02:27] <TheCobra> i see
[02:27] <TheCobra> :)
[02:27] <Losty1981> morbid :soral for you
[02:27] <hoehave1> Can someone help me with my problem please.
[02:27] <FirstStrike> Hazarath: type sudo mount -a
[02:27] <Losty1981> morbid: all for you  sorry
[02:27] <bam_> Nameeater, thx!
[02:27] <Fuzz> is there a way to check if my direct3d works!?
[02:28] <morbid88> Losty1981: so I get ndisgtk from synaptic? Which repositories do I need?
[02:28] <Healot> there isn't any
[02:28] <Hazarath> FirstStrike, Still cannot enable write access.
[02:28] <Healot> there is no Direct3D in GNU/Linux :)
[02:28] <Losty1981> ah i dunno... lol I just checked em all LOL
[02:28] <Fuzz> orly?
[02:29] <morbid88> Losty1981: I ran a search and couldn't find it, so I dont know what I'm missing.
[02:29] <Fuzz> well im trying to get RO to work and its not workign because if the direct3d
[02:29] <morbid88> !ndisgtk
[02:29] <ubotu> ndisgtk: graphical frontend for ndiswrapper (installation of Windows WiFi drivers). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 12 kB, installed size 120 kB
[02:29] <Losty1981> check al ur repositories
[02:29] <Fuzz> (ragnarok Online)
[02:29] <morbid88> ah.
[02:29] <Losty1981> use synaptic
[02:29] <Losty1981> morbid: sorry cant be more help
[02:29] <morbid88> I'm in synaptic. I ran a search there.
[02:30] <james296> can somone here help me with making the entire logon screen show on my monitor?
[02:30] <james296> only part of it is showing
[02:30] <Losty1981> morbid: jsut check all the repositories.....and make sure u press reload
[02:30] <morbid88> Losty1981: ok, thanks.
[02:30] <lix> morbid88: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/net/ndisgtk
[02:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Hazarath: HAve you used anything like Automatix or Easyubuntu or non-official repos?
[02:30] <james296> well?
[02:30] <morbid88> Losty1981: I found the repositories window. I'll check them and see if I find it. Thanks, mate!
[02:31] <morbid88> lix: Or, I could try that...
[02:31] <Losty1981> either or
[02:31] <Hazarath> Jack_Sparrow, Yeah, Easyubuntu
[02:31] <Adam> ubuntu is based on debian right?
[02:31] <lix> morbid88: It's in Universe
[02:31] <Losty1981> adam: apparently
[02:31] <midgetg0at> Automatix uses 99% official repos
[02:31] <lix> Adam: somehow
[02:31] <midgetg0at> i thought was great, and then was informed about prog clashes it can introduce :(
[02:31] <Adam> right cheers
[02:32] <Jack_Sparrow> midgetg0at: And works 95% of the time.. Try going to their channel and see how much help is available
[02:32] <midgetg0at> well, I had great luck with it - but the nay sayers convinced me otherwise :-/
[02:32] <morbid88> I'm getting the extra repositories. Will look now.
[02:32] <midgetg0at> i'm just too new to linux to deal w/ seemingly unexplainable errors
[02:33] <morbid88> found it, thanks. Will try. Cheers all!
[02:33] <Losty1981> no wozzas
[02:33] <lix> morbid88: np
[02:33] <Jack_Sparrow> midgetg0at: When we see really odd problems that do not respond to normal fixes.. many times thay have used those scripts
[02:33] <realist> What is EasyUbuntu?
[02:33] <Hazarath> FirstStrike, brb
[02:33] <morbid88> (I love this channel, it's like the Google Maps of ubuntu...)
[02:33] <FirstStrike> !easyubuntu
[02:33] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[02:33] <midgetg0at> realist: a little gui which allows for quick install of common apps.
[02:33] <piratepenguin> does Ubuntu ship with ekiga?
[02:33] <Jack_Sparrow> !easyubuntu > realist
[02:33] <lix> morbid88: ;)
[02:33] <TeemuR> realist: A program that automatically installs some usefull codecs and programs
[02:34] <Healot> yes, piratepenguin
[02:34] <piratepenguin> cheer
[02:34] <piratepenguin> s
[02:34] <midgetg0at> but - the number of apps is dwarfed by those offered by automatix
[02:34] <morbid88> Okay, so I've got it running. But how do I get the ndiswrapper module to load on boot?
[02:34] <Hazarath> FirstStrike, Ok, back... what do I do now?
[02:34] <Healot> application -> Internet -> ekiga
[02:34] <Losty1981> i think it does it automatically
[02:34] <fyrestrtr> both easyubuntu and automatix are not encouraged.
[02:34] <juan> this line "user,auto,fmask=0111,dmask=0000" should let me read write and execute anything on the drive i mount right?
[02:34] <Losty1981> it did for mine atleast?
[02:34] <realist> Jack_Sparrow: where can I find a list of !commands for ubotu?
[02:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !help
[02:35] <midgetg0at> I've got a somewhat silly question...i'm running in twinview mode (dual monitors)...how might i get my top and bottom desktop panels to stretch the full 2560 pixels of my desktop?
[02:35] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[02:35] <midgetg0at> is there some file i can manually edit?
[02:35] <Losty1981> morbid: load the inf with the gui .... i think it discretely changes some other things
[02:35] <seriouslycgi> hi i installed dapper over the top of fedora and i have a hard drive set as slave on 1st ide port. the folders are all owned by 500 and group 500 how do i change this so all the files and folders can be accessed by users?
[02:35] <FirstStrike> Hazarath: You'll have to ask some one else. I'm not sure where the issue is at this point as I've only dealt with NTFS in depth.
[02:36] <weswh-work> does anyone know if there is a package for the Fox GUI toolkit stuff for Ruby?
[02:36] <Hazarath> FirstStrike, Lemme re-start the shell.
[02:36] <FirstStrike> That won't change anything that sudo mount -a wouldn't do :>
[02:36] <morbid88> Losty1981: I've already set up the drivers for ndis. I used ndiswrapper -i. It shows up as already installed in ndisgtk (although it's still convenient as hell!) But I need to load the ndiswrapper module at boot.
[02:36] <morbid88> does depmod -a do that?
[02:37] <midgetg0at> sudo chown <something here> /hdb0/* ? but thats a total guess
[02:37] <morbid88> or do I drop it into the modules directory
[02:37] <TeemuR> How well does Cedega work and how easy is it to use?
[02:37] <Hazarath> FirstStrike, Still no good.. anybody can help?
[02:37] <Losty1981> morbid: just remove it....and install with the ndisgtk
[02:37] <morbid88> ah. I'll try that.
[02:37] <Losty1981> morbid: like I said it set mine to boot with it every time.....ik think there is more to meets the eye with ndisgtk
[02:38] <midgetg0at> no response to how to set desktop panel widths?
[02:38] <Losty1981> at least it "WAS" working
[02:38] <morbid88> aaaaah. Robots in disguise.
[02:38] <Adam> any one know what ubuntu version has the tg3 module for Broadcom nics allready configuered?
[02:38] <morbid88> am I still on?
[02:38] <Jack_Sparrow> no
[02:38] <Losty1981> yeah
[02:38] <Losty1981> lol
[02:38] <juan> !fuse
[02:38] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[02:38] <mtholdenss> !screencasting
[02:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screencasting - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:38] <juan> !fstab
[02:38] <morbid88> :-) pretty robust, this "linux" thing.
[02:38] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[02:38] <Xteven> can I somehow put another kernel on an ubuntu install cd ? my system is so new that it needs a newer kernel to even boot from a cd
[02:38] <Xteven> hi btw
[02:39] <mtholdenss> screen casting?
[02:39] <juan> !mount
[02:39] <Losty1981> ur better off having a fat32 partition linux/windows share hej?
[02:39] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[02:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Xteven: Do you get to the start or install screen?
[02:39] <juan> !fat32
[02:39] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[02:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Xteven: Have you done the CD self test for errors
[02:39] <Hazarath> This so sucks... lost roughly 70GB of hard drive space to format it so Lunix can write to it... and now I can't even use it.
[02:40] <Losty1981> u can write to fat32 juan
[02:40] <Losty1981> from ubuntu out of the box
[02:40] <Jack_Sparrow> juan: Please send that info to yourself rather than to all in the channel like  /msg ubotu fstab
[02:40] <Xteven> Jack_Sparrow : I tried edgy knot 2
[02:40] <Xteven> Jack_Sparrow : I get a colorfull tv-test-screen thingy and it says "mounting root disk"
[02:41] <Xteven> and then I get dropped to a busybox shell
[02:41] <Hazarath> Losty1981, That may work... re-format my drive in Windows to Fat 32, and bring it back... duh...
[02:41] <betim> hi, I have iso of ubuntu server, does it contains gnome on it?
[02:41] <Xteven> the kernel doesn't have drivers for my ide chipset
[02:41] <Neo8750> Xteven: the edgy splash stinks
[02:41] <juan> i no but i need to change something so that i can execute the files on my fat drive?
[02:41] <Xteven> which is ICH8R I believe
[02:41] <Neo8750> and you can't change it
[02:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Xteven: Asking in Ubuntu+1 would be a better choice
[02:41] <Hazarath> FirstStrike, That should work, right? Format the drive to Fat 32 under Windows?
[02:41] <Xteven> Jack_Sparrow : oh, ok :)
[02:42] <drole> hi there,, i need some help.. where can i get avi codec for totem?
[02:42] <Jack_Sparrow> juan: Diskmounter Script   http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  for mounting NTFS, Fat32 and NFS Drives Most people need to restart X before the Drive Icons show on the desktop  .. after saving the page to your desktop use terminal and type cd /home/your_username_here/Desktop
[02:42] <FirstStrike> Hazarath: If you format it to fat then yes, you can write to it out of the box. If you install fuse and ntfs-3g then you can write to it even if it's formatted to NTFS.
[02:42] <juan> thx
[02:42] <midgetg0at> drole: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[02:43] <FirstStrike> so either way, you can write to it. a fresh ubuntu install shouldn't have any issues mounting and writing to a fat drive.
[02:43] <Hazarath> FirstStrike, That info could of been _very_ handy about 3 hours ago... everythnig I've tried wouldn't allow writing to NTFS... lost 70GB of stuff, lol... lemme go format, heh.
[02:43] <FirstStrike> but if you messed up your some permissions either manually, through a script or caused something else to go awry then that could cause issues.
[02:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Hazarath: Not a good choice
[02:44] <Xteven> not much activity in ubuntu+1
[02:44] <midgetg0at> (or none)
[02:44] <Neo8750> just download the edgy cd and try it
[02:44] <Hazarath> Jack_Sparrow, I've tried everytihng... captive, all that.. still failed. Plus: said drive had too much info to back up, heh.
[02:44] <Neo8750> if it comes down to it you got 2 coasters =/
[02:44] <FirstStrike> ntfs-3g is still in testing stages, however it has been tested quite extensively with no corrupted files/filesystems thus far (documented anyway)
[02:45] <FirstStrike> i use it on this box and haven't had any problems either.
[02:45] <daurn|laptop> how do you install it?
[02:45] <Hazarath> FirstStrike, Jack_Sparrow Gonna re-format the drive now, bbs.
[02:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Hazarath: Writing to ntfs is not 100% safe
[02:45] <FirstStrike> !fuse
[02:45] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[02:45] <FirstStrike> !ntfs-3g
[02:45] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710
[02:45] <Arinomi> I have downloaded the ISO, burned it to a CD, and rebooted my pc. Now what?
[02:45] <Neo8750> FirstStrike: thats only because the people who fs corrupted also had system crash and sho them self it just wasn't their day
[02:46] <kishore> if we delete any files in windows drives.. from ubuntu.. they are not actually deleting..
[02:46] <FirstStrike> :P
[02:46] <Neo8750> s/sho/shot
[02:46] <Nigthfall> hi
[02:46] <FirstStrike> Arinomi: I'm assuming the Ubuntu livecd?
[02:46] <Arinomi> FirstStrike: I was told to download the Desktop CD
[02:46] <FirstStrike> Arinomi: Click the Install icon on the desktop and follow the instructions.
[02:46] <FirstStrike> The desktop/livecd are the same thing.
[02:46] <Fuzz> how do i uninstall my fglrx drivers?!
[02:47] <Jack_Sparrow> !fglrx > Fuzz
[02:47] <midgetg0at> uninstall, or run a different driver?
[02:47] <FirstStrike> Since he said uninstall I'm assuming..uninstall.
[02:47] <Fuzz> reinstall actually
[02:47] <midgetg0at> awww first, maybe you'll be right next time.
[02:48] <FirstStrike> I can only go by what they say. You weren't right either :P
[02:48] <Fuzz> im using the ATI drivers now
[02:48] <Nigthfall> Is it possible to run ubuntu-live from external harddisks? To use it as a portable Linux on different systems?
[02:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Fuzz: Use the info supplied by the bot
[02:48] <fyrestrtr> !ping
[02:48] <ubotu> ping: connection timeout
[02:48] <Fuzz> because it works on my desktop with dualscreen.. and the fglrx drivers totally screwed up my GUI
[02:49] <Coffeegrinds> ubotu compact flach install
[02:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compact flach install - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:49] <Coffeegrinds> ubotu compact flash install
[02:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compact flash install - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:49] <Losty1981> Can someone help me with my network card: It used to interface as eth1 ... but now it doesnt seem to recognize it at all... ndiswrapper says its loaded but its not showing up on iwconfig...
[02:49] <Coffeegrinds> crappy.
[02:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !install
[02:49] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[02:49] <Coffeegrinds> and my google-fu powers have run out
[02:49] <Kameli> hi, why the command sudo apt-get buil-dep simgear or flightgear doesn't work but sudo apt-get build-dep wine works, does anyone know? help me ='(
[02:49] <Coffeegrinds> arr mate thanks
[02:50] <Losty1981> is there some where I should look to nano for network settings /etc ??
[02:50] <Hazarath> FirstStrike, Jack_Sparrow Crap... will only allow me to format to NTFS... *stabs Windows*
[02:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Losty1981: what network card are you using
[02:50] <Kameli> hi, why the command sudo apt-get buil-dep simgear or flightgear doesn't work but sudo apt-get build-dep wine works, does anyone know? help me ='(
[02:50] <Hazarath> bbs
[02:50] <nataraj_> if i open a deb package in firefox, using the package installer, where does it get d/loaded on my hard disk?
[02:50] <Losty1981> im using a broadcom which previoulsy had worked fine
[02:50] <Coffeegrinds> i guess now the only issue is I've got a CF-IDE adapter .. I'm not seeing much of those
[02:51] <Kameli> look my guestion :(
[02:51] <Losty1981> and recently even better since I got the latest drivers
[02:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Hazarath: Are you going to try and put XP back on that..
[02:51] <Losty1981> but inexplicably....doesnt work at the moment
[02:51] <Losty1981> ive rebooted etc
[02:51] <Losty1981> stumped
[02:51] <jman8888> Can anybody help me? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=253630
[02:51] <Coffeegrinds> nataraj_: open the download window, unter tools, It'll tell you at the bottom
[02:52] <nataraj_> ok
[02:52] <reazon> n
[02:52] <reazon> help
[02:52] <reazon> wtf
[02:52] <Coffeegrinds> ftw?
[02:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Losty1981: reazon  Please avoid using the enter key for punctuation.  All on one line makes it easier on the other 857 people in the channel
[02:52] <phanter> hello there. I have a bunch (640) vcs calendar files which I would like to inster in evolution. How can I do this as an automated proces
[02:53] <reazon> ya im just trying to know how this command line irc works
[02:53] <reazon> sorry
[02:53] <Losty1981> Jack: sorry mate...bad habits
[02:53] <Coffeegrinds> heheh
[02:53] <Kameli> hey guys, does anyone know why my command sudo apt-get build-dep simgear or flightgear doesn't work, but when i type sudo apt-get buil-dep wine it works?
[02:53] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[02:53] <weswh-work> i have ruby 1.9 installed through synaptic, trying to run a ruby app through terminal. it says type 'ruby setup.rb', but terminal says command ruby does not exists. any ideas?
[02:53] <Healot> Kameli: those packages aren't in the repos :)
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> Healot,  What! thats too logical an answer!
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> :P
[02:54] <Healot> crikey, it is the answer!
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> Oi Vey!
[02:54] <Coffeegrinds> any pointers here, I've just bought a cheap'n'quick CF card and have a spare CF to IDE adapter, should i go with the USBon a stick to avoid unwanted write and suffer a massive hit to this box's meager256MBs o'pc133? or go all out and burn out my card in a year or two?
[02:54] <phanter> or is there an other program for reading vcs calendar files (I need to extract the info in an ordered way)
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> Healot,  why cant i apt-get install windowxp ?!
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> :P
[02:55] <Hazarath> Jack_Sparrow, No, just gonna use fat32 so ubuntu can read/write to it.
[02:55] <nataraj_> Cofeegrinds: i know.. but it doesn't come there.. could it be because i created the dir. under sudo?
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> Coffeegrinds,  in a year or 2 you will be able to get 10gb cards for $30
[02:55] <Hazarath> Jack_Sparrow, Well, windows and uinuntu
[02:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Hazarath: What about gparted?
[02:55] <Subhuman> Coffeegrinds, keep it frugal, its better just to keep things in RAM then have constant read/writes, but i mean CF cards are cheap nowadays so its up to you.
[02:55] <kishore> hi all
[02:55] <Coffeegrinds> true and what;s you think my chances of burning it out would be?
[02:56] <kishore> i dont find preferences in /etc/apt
[02:56] <Coffeegrinds> like time wise?
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> Coffeegrinds,  ive never managed to do it yet.
[02:56] <Kameli> Healot: yes them are, there are simgear,flight gear but them are older versions, 0.9.9 :((( and i want 0.9.10
[02:57] <Coffeegrinds> see thats whgat i keep hearing, and I mean I have my 120gb Usb drive, I'm set for external storage
[02:57] <FirstStrike> !partition > Hazarath
[02:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Coffeegrinds: I use cf for everything, MP3, cameras, ipaq
[02:57] <Healot> !info simgear
[02:57] <ubotu> Package simgear does not exist in any distro I know
[02:57] <Nigthfall> bye
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> Kameli,  you will have to either use the source, or perhaps the klic auto packages
[02:58] <Healot> Kameli: apt-get only install stuff, binary/source package from the listed official repos, you :)
[02:58] <Coffeegrinds> see I'm looking forward to taking a small hit at sustained read times to get thet zen od less than 1ns read time
[02:58] <Coffeegrinds> sweeet sweet stupidness
[02:58] <Coffeegrinds> and lack of spelling
[02:58] <jirihavelka> Hi, what is the command for gnome trash plz ???
[02:59] <Coffeegrinds> well guys wish me luck ..
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> jirihavelka,  what a odd question. Care to clarify what you are trying to do.
[03:00] <jirihavelka> Dr_Willis: i want to know command for trash
[03:00] <justin_> :( why is Radeon so sucky for Linux..
[03:00] <Healot> it's Ati, sir... proprietary stuff sucks
[03:00] <jirihavelka> i use open source for radeon
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> jirihavelka,  once again..  thats odd.. a command to do WHAT with the trash?
[03:01] <zax1> i want to do some email marketing, and found constant contact, but i dont understand why should i not do it my self ? what are the benefit of using constant contact as opposed to just sending the emails myself ?
[03:01] <kishore> i hav created alias for " apt-cache search " as acs ..now i want to remove that. how can i
[03:01] <jirihavelka> Dr_Willis: to create a shortcut which will run trash, that i need command
[03:01] <zax1> oops wrong channel :(
[03:01] <justin_> Healot: Yeah and the open soure driver is even worse, go figure - I am wondering if ATI did this on purpose, slow down the card in Linux
[03:01] <FirstStrike> justin_: ATI has some terrible Linux drivers.
[03:01] <midgetg0at> thought it was slightly off topic zax
[03:02] <kishore> help needed
[03:02] <kishore> i hav created alias for " apt-cache search " as acs ..now i want to remove that. how can i
[03:02] <Healot> justin_: you can stuff your opinion at #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> jirihavelka,  you mean open the trash can folder?
[03:02] <Healot> the open source driver isn't created b y ATi team
[03:02] <justin_> Yeah, they do anyways...
[03:02] <phanter> how can I combine a lot of files easily in one file (tekstfiles?)
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> phanter,  what kind of file..
[03:03] <bintut> anyone here can point me to a good documentation on how to customize an ubuntu cd installer?
[03:03] <phanter> Dr_Willis: textfiles
[03:03] <VCF> Yuw
[03:03] <driz__> Sigh.... has anyone got bitchx to actually look like its supposed to on ubuntu? with ansi?
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> phanter,  use 'cat'
[03:04] <VCF> Hi there,
[03:04] <Sp4rKy> hi
[03:04] <Jack_Sparrow> bintut: http://www.livedistro.org/taxonomy/term/376?PHPSESSID=fcca24dbaf9c3e986ec2c0e2a6bcc9e1
[03:04] <VCF> What ftp server should I use ?
[03:05] <Kameli> how i can know then what packages simgear or flightgear needs if apt-get build-dep doesn't works, i have installed all packages what it needs, but still i can't compile it, always some errors :( ?
[03:05] <Hazarath> FirstStrike, Thanks, but gonna do this: Windows will format it to Fat32, but only 32 Gb each: I cut the drive in two, 32GBs each, and gonna just have two partitions.
[03:05] <Healot> read the documentation of that package, Kameli
[03:05] <phanter> Dr_Willis: oke, so how do I write the output into a file? is it like cat *.vcs >> text.txt ?
[03:05] <VCF> In other words what is a good ftp server to use with Ubutnu ?
[03:06] <Hazarath> VCF, gFTP works good for me.
[03:06] <bintut> Jack_Sparrow: thanks..
[03:06] <Healot> define "good" VCF
[03:06] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> phanter,  bash 101 stuff here. :P  basicially that should work.
[03:06] <phanter> hah oke it worked
[03:06] <daurn|laptop> ok
[03:06] <phanter> thnx
[03:06] <daurn|laptop> i installed ntfs-3g!
[03:06] <VCF> It should be secure and easy to update with apt-get ?
[03:06] <Hazarath> VCF, Ya.
[03:07] <justin_> In Xorg, if your video card is an AGP - should the BUSID - still = PCI:1;0:0??
[03:07] <daurn|laptop> just
[03:07] <daurn|laptop> how can i get these 2 commands to run on startup?
[03:07] <daurn|laptop> mdadm --build --level=linear --raid-devices=2 --auto=p /dev/mdp0 /dev/sda /dev/sdb
[03:07] <daurn|laptop> sfdisk -R /dev/mdp0
[03:07] <VCF> So you would recommend gFTP ?
[03:07] <daurn|laptop> gFTP is good
[03:07] <phanter> oke that did not work...
[03:07] <phanter> DAMN
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Losty1981: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[03:07] <phanter> please if anybody can help me?
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> daurn|laptop,  theres a /etc/rc.local I belive
[03:08] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys i have a 3 button mouse where do i turn emulation off
[03:08] <Healot> btw, he was asking for FTP server :-
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> Paddy_EIRE,  in the xorg.conf file
[03:08] <FirstStrike> pureftpd
 where is xorg.conf
[03:08] <phanter> I have 640 vcs calendar files and I need the info somehow. Importing in evolution is almost impossible (i have to do it file by file). How can I get the info extracted :s... please I need help with this
[03:08] <Hazarath> VCF, IT'S WHAT i USE.
[03:08] <Hazarath> Sorreh.
[03:09] <daurn|laptop> Dr_Willis: will that run before fstab does its thing?
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> Paddy_EIRE,  in /etc/X11/
 and do i just type false?? is there anything else i have to change
[03:09] <Arinomi> !install
[03:09] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[03:09] <jman8888> !dwl-122
[03:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dwl-122 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:09] <FirstStrike> VCF: gFTP is a ftp client. pureftpd is a ftp server.
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> daurn|laptop,  i doubt it.
[03:09] <jman8888> !d-link
[03:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about d-link - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:09] <jman8888> !wireless
[03:09] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:09] <daurn|laptop> so
[03:09] <daurn|laptop> what does?
[03:09] <VCF> Right
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> Paddy_EIRE,  backup your working xorg.conf. and you proberlly just need to delete the correct line.
[03:10] <VCF> Thanks...
[03:10] <dalani> I put a startup script in init.d to start my wvdial on boot up
[03:10] <dalani> i need to see thelog where????
[03:10] <daurn|laptop> Dr_Willis?
 how do i back it up
[03:11] <bintut> what is the recommended tool to build an ubuntu installer cd? i found UCK and Reconstructor but both of them are not stable. i believe there is a tool used by the ubuntu project..
[03:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/xorg.conf.backup
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> Paddy_EIRE,  with the cp command.
 cheers, and i just have to delete the line? why do i not type false
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> Paddy_EIRE,  put in false then.. put in "Please work for me" :P  put in "Klaxto barato Nicto" ---- OR google for the problem and learn what all the options do.. and why   it defaults to FALSE when the line is not there. :P
 lol
[03:14] <Paddy_EIRE> i get it
[03:14] <Dr_Willis> Editing the xorg.conf is not Rocket-Surgery :P
[03:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: I can see said the blind man
[03:15] <amorph_> exit
[03:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Dr_Willis: You almost made me spew my morning coffee
[03:15] <Paddy_EIRE> is it  "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" or gksudo im thinking gk?
[03:15] <dalani> i need to see the dmseg log thankswhere????
[03:15] <Jack_Sparrow> gksudo
[03:15] <Dr_Willis> Jack_Sparrow,  :)
[03:16] <dermoth> Hi there. I have a debian source package, need some help making a compiled package from it...
[03:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: BTW.. good morning my friend
[03:16] <james296> why do I get these errors when I try to install items in Synaptic?
[03:17] <james296> E: clvm: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 3
[03:17] <james296> E: redhat-cluster-suite: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[03:17] <james296> E: system-config-cluster: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[03:17] <Jack_Sparrow> bintut: I have used the reconstructor script and it works fine
[03:17] <Acegikmo> can anyone give me a hand? I want to format the hard drive grub is on but first I'll need to install grub on my current harddrive
[03:17] <dermoth> Anyone can help please?? I have a debian source package, need some help making a compiled package from it...
[03:17] <bintut> Jack_Sparrow: is there a .deb package for reconstructor?
[03:18] <Jack_Sparrow> james296: HAve you changed any of your sources.list  have you used Automatix or easyubuntu?
[03:18] <Jack_Sparrow> bintut: yes
[03:18] <james296> yeah I have used Automatix
[03:19] <Jack_Sparrow> bintut: http://reconstructor.aperantis.com/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=33
[03:19] <dalani> I need To see the startup log ..is it dmseg?
[03:19] <james296> well?
[03:19] <Jack_Sparrow> james296: Gawd I hate this...  People use their script then they come here for us to fix things
[03:19] <james296> lol
[03:20] <dalani> at least the rest works jack
[03:20] <trzoniol> 5513
[03:20] <Acegikmo> can anyone give me a hand? I want to format the hard drive grub is on but first I'll need to install grub on my current harddrive
[03:20] <james296> so what do I do to solve this problem?
[03:20] <Jack_Sparrow> FirstStrike: third one so far today and it is only 6:20 am here
[03:20] <FirstStrike> haha..same. west coast :)
[03:21] <FirstStrike> !automatix
[03:21] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[03:21] <bintut> Jack_Sparrow: i checked the site you gave to me, only in .tar.gz files
[03:22] <nataraj_> if i install the xfce-base and all dependencies, how do i make it the default desktop environment, replacing gnome?
[03:22] <nt13> hello everyone ! Can anybody help me with soundcard configuration?
[03:22] <FirstStrike> nataraj_: logout, change your session to xfce-base on the login menu and upon logging in it'll ask you if you'd like to make it your default session. click yes.
[03:23] <james296> if I uninstall automatix would that solve my problem?
[03:23] <davin> Hi, id like to tinker abit with XGL/Compiz, but last time I did that I had to reinstall my system, whats the most efficient way to backup my system? Or should I just do it the old-fashioned way by cp'ing / ?
[03:23] <dalani> Quite simple: I put a startup script in init.d to start my wvdial on boot up. just so regular users can access the internet without needing the root passwrd
[03:23] <EmxBA> afi: you need help? :)
[03:23] <nataraj_> ok..thnx
[03:24] <dalani> do some ou have more than one users on your computers?