[06:39] <gr33n7007h> why cant you stream videos to vlc KyleP
[06:40] <psal_dun> getting  a busy box error
[06:40] <psal_dun> Trying to dual boot , windows 64 bit and ubuntu 11.04 ,32 bit on i5 processor & 8 gb ram .
[06:40] <psal_dun> getting  a busy box error
[06:40] <RenaKunisaki> I guess it just died and left a file behind
[06:40] <KyleP> i don't know how i would do that and i don't feel like teaching people how to use a computer all day :\
[06:40] <luisa> i just have installed chrome in ubuntu 10.4
[06:40] <luisa> and flash run normally
[06:40] <gr33n7007h> do you want me to write a bash script for you?
[06:41] <KyleP> if you mean me i would be so appericiative of that
[06:41] <KyleP> (sp)
[06:41] <gr33n7007h> yeah KyleP kk
[06:42] <ionite> what is linux mint channel?
[06:43] <iceroot> !mint | ionite
[06:43] <psal_dun> any one has a solution to busy box error during installation ....
[06:43] <Polah> psal_dun: Verify the integrity of your ISO and LiveCD first
[06:43] <airtonix> psal_dun: not with that appaling bug report... no
[06:43] <Polah> !md5sum | psal_dun
[06:44] <gr33n7007h> what type of hashes are ubuntu passwords?
[06:44] <psal_dun> well its working fine in my laptop , using same for desktop is problem
[06:45] <airtonix> psal_dun: you won't get any effective help until you provide alot more details
[06:45] <psal_dun> well m Trying to dual boot , windows 64 bit and ubuntu 11.04 ,32 bit on i5 processor & 8 gb ram , windows 7 is already installed
[06:46] <Polah> gr33n7007h, AES I think
[06:46] <airtonix> psal_dun: http://askubuntu.com/questions/5121/how-do-i-report-a-bug
[06:46] <gr33n7007h> Polah, cheers
[06:46] <Ben64> or try installing it again
[06:46] <psal_dun> then m getting busy box error saying unable to find a medium containing a live file system , and installation screen dosent come up as in normal case
[06:47] <KyleP> i;m also having trouble with right click capabilities
[06:47] <dorkmafia> anyone know how to install the latest flash player debugger version?
[06:47] <Polah> psal_dun: Like I said, go verify your ISO and CD as per the instructions ubottu linked you to and we can proceed from there.
[06:47] <ikonia> psal_dun: are you trying to install ubuntu - or have you already installed it ?
[06:47] <Ben64> psal_dun: try using the alternate cd to install
[06:48] <luisa> I UNDERSTAND NOW CAUSE ALL THE REST OF THE WORLD HATES LATIN AMERICAN
[06:49] <psal_dun> and yes ubuntu gets installed inside the windows using wubi , but along side is where the problem starts ... and i am checking md sum
[06:49] <luisa> I HAVE THE SPANISH CHANEL IN CHILE HAS 180 PEOPLE CONNCECTED AND ALL THE PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT
[06:49] <luisa> HATE FROM PERU TO CHILE AND INVERSE
[06:49] <psal_dun> unfortunately in alternate cd the same problem occured
[06:49] <ryannathans> !offtopic | luisa
[06:49] <Ben64> luisa: calm down, stop the offtopic and caps lock
[06:49] <Polah> luisa: Unfortunately, that isn't relevant here.
[06:50] <ikonia> C/ak luisa
[06:50] <ryannathans> Imad still, linux won't detect anyting on my 2.0 TB adaptec Data
[06:50] <ryannathans> rage.
[06:50] <psal_dun> ikonia , m trying to install
[06:50] <Ben64> psal_dun: try using another cd drive
[06:50] <Ben64> does it ask you to specify cd location? cause you could try that
[06:50] <ikonia> psal_dun: are you using any form of raid technology
[06:51] <ryannathans> windows won't let me convert it to GPD either, yet somehow it works in windows
[06:51] <psal_dun> no .. it dosent ask to specify cd loaction , directly inito ash mode busy box error
[06:51] <Ben64> ryannathans: its because you have it hooked up strange
[06:51] <ryannathans> Ben64: yeah, totally -.-
[06:51] <psal_dun> no raid technology
[06:51] <ryannathans> nothing strange about it
[06:51] <ikonia> psal_dun: so you are trying to boot from a cd yes/no ?
[06:52] <Ben64> sas to sata... that is strange
[06:52] <ryannathans> Ben64: not really
[06:52] <ryannathans> Ben64: it's what it was designed for
[06:52] <ikonia> Ben64: that is perfectly normal
[06:52] <biami> how do i use webGL using software rendering in Chromium? Things are working fine in Firefox, but not in Chromium, so I guess I have what is needed... libomesa
[06:52] <ryannathans> ikonia: thanks
[06:52] <psal_dun> is windows 64 bit (already installed) causing problem to ubuntu 11.04 32 bit(which m trying to install) ???
[06:52] <Ben64> if it was normal, it'd work :|
[06:52] <ryannathans> obviously not
[06:52] <Ben64> psal_dun: no
[06:52] <psal_dun> .yes from a cd
[06:52] <ikonia> Ben64: please don't be silly.
[06:52] <ryannathans> thankyou again
[06:53] <Ben64> sata port on a motherboard is normal, having a converter is not
[06:53] <ryannathans> converter? you mean raid card?
[06:53] <ikonia> Ben64: again - please think about what you are saying.
[06:53] <ikonia> ryannathans: is the raid card a host card or a true hardware raid card ?
[06:53] <ryannathans> true hardware raid card
[06:53] <ikonia> ryannathans: make ?
[06:54] <ryannathans> adaptec 3805
[06:54] <psal_dun> is windows 64 bit (already installed) causing problem to ubuntu 11.04 32 bit(which m trying to install) ???
[06:54] <ikonia> ryannathans: just checking it - but that should be fine
[06:54] <psal_dun> you know the 64 bit vs 32 bit compatibility problem ????
[06:54] <Ben64> i did think about it, makes perfect sense. what percentage of people have a 2TB drive hooked up through a raid card? much much less than 50%, therefore not normal. but i'll shut up about it now
[06:54] <ikonia> ryannathans: when in ubuntu can it see the physical device, eg: does it show up with sudo fdisk -l
[06:54] <ryannathans> Ben64: it's called storage, a raid array of many smaller drives -.-
[06:54] <Ben64> psal_dun: windows install won't mess up ubuntu installation at all
[06:55] <ikonia> Ben64: if you have no idea of what you're saying, I suggest you don't talk as telling someone using a raid card is "not normal" is unacceptable.
[06:55] <Polah> psal_dun: No. If you're installing on another partition then Ubuntu will be completely independent of Windows.
[06:55]  * airtonix chuckles
[06:55] <psal_dun> all right ... cant identify the problem
[06:55] <biami> or else can someone tell me how to install drivers for my Intel HD Graphics card that came build in with my Intel Premium P6200?
[06:55] <Ben64> your drive likely isn't being detected by the install, use a different drive if you can, or usb install
[06:56] <ryannathans> ikonia: yes, it sees it fine, comes up in installer as SCSI2 SDA 2.0TB Adaptec Data, i have it set to raid 5, 3 1TB drives to form a 2TB virtual drive, 2tb drive currently has been formatted with NTFS with 100gb unformatted at the end, it's MBR
[06:56] <psal_dun> ok
[06:56] <ryannathans> installer detects it as completely unformatted with no partition table
[06:56] <Ben64> ryannathans: you probably should have mentioned that at some point before...
[06:56] <ikonia> Ben64: why ? what difference does that make ?
[06:56] <ryannathans> stfu Ben64
[06:56] <Ben64> thats not nice
[06:57] <ikonia> ryannathans: tone down the langauge please.
[06:57] <Vermicelli> Would someone spare some time to help me with an installation problem? My new sata isn't recognized.
[06:57] <Ben64> because the way he described it before, it was a 2TB drive hooked up through sata through sas
[06:57] <ikonia> ryannathans: this is ubuntu 11.04 ?
[06:57] <ryannathans> appologies, i have been trying to get this to work for days, i'm trying to code something but i'm just losing work, i can no longer work in a VM
[06:57] <Ben64> that is much different from 3x1TB drives
[06:57] <ikonia> Ben64: no it's not - please stop talking now
[06:57] <ryannathans> ikonia: this is 10.04.3 alturnate 64bit, 11.04 give me kernel panic on boot
[06:57] <Ben64> a 2TB drive is the same as a raid array? alright then
[06:58] <ikonia> Ben64:  READ and understand the question, and in this situation, there is no actual difference
[06:58] <biami> SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME HOW TO INSTALL DRIVERS FOR MY INTEL HD GRPAHICS CARD... THE CAPS ARE INTENTIONAL.
[06:58] <ikonia> ryannathans: one moment, I don't know if gpt is enabled by default
[06:58] <ikonia> ryannathans: I don't think it was in 10.04,
[06:58] <Ben64> i do understand, sorry if you don't like me, i'll just ignore all this hard drive stuff from now on though, sorry
[06:59] <ikonia> Ben64: it's nothing to do with "liking you" it's to do with you not understanding what you are saying.
[06:59] <biami> FUCK YOU
[06:59] <sridhar> @GirlyGirl, thanks let me try
[07:00] <Vermicelli> If my install cd gparted and fdisk -l see my ide but not my new sata, what might fix that?
[07:00] <ryannathans> ikonia: drive is already MBR, total size is 2tb, windows loves it fine, been using for months, i'm not given the option by windows to convert the partition table to guid or whatever it's called ;)
[07:00] <psal_dun> yes 11.04
[07:00] <ikonia> ryannathans: so you need a gpt partition table to deal with that size, but I don't think 10.04 has it built in by default hence why it can't see it
[07:00] <ikonia> ryannathans: what partition table did you use ?
[07:00] <arghx> Vermicelli: does your BIOS see your SATA?
[07:00] <ryannathans> ikonia: it's currently MBR
[07:00] <arghx> Vermicelli: and what does dmesg |grep -i ata say?
[07:00] <ikonia> ryannathans: that's not a partition table, thats a master boot record
[07:00] <ryannathans> o
[07:00] <ryannathans> ikonia: not sure
[07:01] <ikonia> ryannathans: is there any data on this disk at the moment ?
[07:01] <ryannathans> yes
[07:01] <ikonia> ryannathans: ok - just checking so we need to be careful
[07:01] <ryannathans> a 1.8TB NTFS partition filled and 100gb unallocated at the end
[07:01] <arghx> !pm | Vermicelli
[07:02] <ryannathans> i'm feeling liek backing it all up, wiping disk and starting again
[07:02] <ryannathans> but that would take 8 hours because the fastest backup i have here is 50mb/s
[07:02] <ikonia> ryannathans: there is a possability of that being the option, I'm just checking for gpt support in ubuntu
[07:02] <ryannathans> ikonia: i have have a gpt drive before in 10.04
[07:02] <dr-willis> data worth keeping.. is worth backung up
[07:02] <ryannathans> i needed to install some package before installing ubuntu but can't remember what it's called
[07:02] <Vermicelli> Grepping that yields a ton of datas and patas and several satas, but none taht I make out as reference to the disk.
[07:02] <ryannathans> think it had an x in it
[07:03] <ikonia> ryannathans: the fact that fdisk is showing it as no partition table is what's making me think it can't see it
[07:03] <ikonia> ryannathans: and I'm aware of a problem on 10.04 before with no gpt support, hence wondering if .3 had enabled it
[07:03] <arghx> have you looked at the first sector of the harddisk/raid and checked what kind of partition table it is?
[07:04] <ryannathans> ikonia: I'd be using 11.04 if i could, but that just kernel panics on boot
[07:04] <ikonia> ryannathans: just give me a few moments please
[07:04] <arghx> Vermicelli: have you checked dmesg as I asked you to?
[07:04] <antnash> anyone got a favourite vnc?
[07:05] <Vermicelli> Yes, arghx. No mention of the disk as far as I can tell.
[07:05] <arghx> Vermicelli: please paste the output
[07:05] <arghx> and also the output of lspci -nn
[07:06] <Vermicelli> Pasting the output (several pages) would spam the channel. ALso, most are data and pata references.
[07:06] <Ben64> pastebin
[07:06] <dr-willis> antnash:  depwnds on your needs
[07:07] <antnash> dr-willis: Right, I'm a complete vnc noob. What might my needs be??
[07:07] <ikonia> ryannathans: ok, so a little research shows that the gpt format is fine (or appears to be) with 10.04 - there are some bugs at install time, but as you're not installing, don't care
[07:08] <dr-willis> antnash:  how would i know. gnome has the vino vnc server client built in by default
[07:08] <ikonia> ryannathans: just been reading through some mail threads around the topic, and one of the common issues that comes up is that windows can set the disk up as a windows dynamic volume, that totally windows only technology, like lvm is to unix based systems.
[07:08] <antnash> I'm on xfce
[07:08] <ryannathans> ikonia: i'm trying to install linux to the raid array
[07:08] <ikonia> ryannathans: if it's a windows based volume (rather than partition driven system) that would explain why your disk can't be seen by ubuntu
[07:09] <dr-willis> !vnc
[07:09] <ikonia> ryannathans: that point will still stand, if you disk is already "partitioned" - which it appears to be, the installer should see the gpt partition format,
[07:09] <ikonia> ryannathans: the fact that you don't have a small boot partition or a valid partition table at all, may suggest (not fact) that windows has created it as a dynamic disk
[07:09] <ryannathans> ikonia: i think i will just back up the whole thing and partition it in linux
[07:10] <ikonia> ryannathans: I've never played with dynamic disks so I don't know how this works factually
[07:10] <ryannathans> ikonia: in windows i have the option to convert it to dynamic disc
[07:10] <ryannathans> i don't believe it is one
[07:10] <ikonia> ryannathans: if you are going to install linux first, you need to partition it using the tool "parted" BEFORE you try to install
[07:10] <_Vermicelli> http://pastebin.com/xs1q1i4V
[07:10] <KyleP> hey guys i'm back again apparently i'm not supposed to sleep ever agian
[07:10] <arghx> ryannathans: Under the Control Panel, Administrative tools, Computer Management, then click on “Disk Management”, you will see the entire disks recognized by Windows Disk 0, Disk 1, under the Disk you will see the current configuration “Basic” “Dynamic”.
[07:10] <ikonia> ryannathans: if you boot from a livecd and use the tool parted to create a gpt disk layout, the installer should see it fine
[07:11] <kdub__> why doesnt /etc/init.d/gdm stop work anymore?
[07:11] <ryannathans> the disc ia basic
[07:11] <dr-willis> kdub__:  use the service command.
[07:11] <ryannathans> i have the feeling it's a GPT disk, because it's not letting me convert it to one in windows, it's greyed out
[07:11] <ikonia> ryannathans: that totally goes against the issue, how unusual
[07:12] <ikonia> ryannathans: boot from a livecd, and use the tool "parted" and see if you can actually see the partition table
[07:12] <kdub__> that doesnt work either (service gdm stop), just says "Unknown instance"
[07:12] <arghx> Vermicelli: you have 4 SATA connectors right? cause all 4 are down :(
[07:12] <ryannathans> "disk 1, basic, online, MBR, capacity ~1800000mb"
[07:12] <ryannathans> alright, i'll boot a livecd
[07:13] <_Vermicelli> Hrmmm. I have 4 3.0GBps, but the drive is connected to one of two 6GBps sockets.
[07:14] <ryannathans> lost me usb, one moment
[07:14] <arghx> Vermicelli: your 6GBps SATA controller is not recognized by lspci. what kind of controller is this?
[07:14] <ryannathans> installing 10.04 desktop to usb for livecd usage
[07:14] <_Vermicelli> SATA3
[07:15] <_Vermicelli> Erm- more specific than that, where can I find out?
[07:15] <ryannathans> alright 10.04.1 desktop 64bit is being written to usb
[07:15] <arghx> tho it should be supported: http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/PATA_MARVELL.html
[07:15] <arghx> from linux 2.6.20 onwards...
[07:16] <_Vermicelli> The board and drive are both new, so I don't have anything previous to go by with either.
[07:18] <arghx> well, linux doesn't see this controller for some reason :(  Are you using natty?
[07:18] <Gruber> hi
[07:18] <john_rambo>  Does Sylpheed has new mail sound notification feature ?
[07:18] <_Vermicelli> Yes, arghx. 11.04 x64.
[07:19] <bucaneiro> 11.04?
[07:19] <_Vermicelli> er...
[07:19] <_Vermicelli> yes?
[07:19] <Gruber> no help ?
[07:19] <karel_ff> Hi. Does anyone know what tool(s) are being used for the ubuntu package repositories? I have tried reprepro, mini-dinstall, ... but they all lack some features I need
[07:20] <_Vermicelli> Natty xubuntu actually.
[07:20] <ryannathans> ikonia: alrgiht, just about to boot up 10.04.1 desktop
[07:21] <dragonwolf> Can I switch Unity off without needing to reboot?
[07:22] <_Vermicelli> Log out, dragonwolf. At the bottom of the screen should be the session manager.
[07:22] <zaapiel> sudo apt-get install gnome
[07:23] <zaapiel> for pure gnome
[07:23] <ryannathans> alright we are booted
[07:23] <dragonwolf> Verm: ta
[07:23] <ryannathans> ikonia: on the 10.04.1 live i get gparted up and /dev/sda is unallocated 1.82TB
[07:24] <ikonia> ryannathans: do you have a /dev/sda1 ?
[07:24] <ryannathans> ikonia: NO
[07:24] <ryannathans> *cops
[07:24] <ryannathans> caps*
[07:24] <ikonia> ryannathans: again suggesting there is no partition table there
[07:25] <ryannathans> ikonia: ironic
[07:25] <JasonSauce> hello everyone
[07:25] <ryannathans> hmm i think i will just have to re-do it all
[07:25] <darth_tux71> yo yo
[07:25] <ryannathans> ~16 hour backup/restore operation
[07:25] <ikonia> ryannathans: I'm just walking through in my head if there is any reason there could be a valid gpt partition, but we can't see it
[07:25] <darth_tux71> is there a channel that is spacific to running Ubuntu on an apple?
[07:26] <Ben64> darth_tux71: not that I know of, on the intel macs, there wouldn't really be a difference from a "pc"
[07:26] <ryannathans> darth_tux71: don't think so
[07:27] <darth_tux71> thanks Ben64  and ryannathans
[07:27] <sauvin> Modulo Apple's firmware.
[07:27] <JasonSauce> is there any in depth instructions on how to trple boot with OSX as a the primarty OS?
[07:27] <JasonSauce> OSX being installed, window7 with bootcamp, then ubuntu
[07:28] <Vampire> if I want to limit bandwidth on my VPS per user, what do I need to do? http://www.techtalkz.com/ubuntu-linux/62541-limit-bandwidth-samba.html <--- is this a good resource?
[07:28] <ryannathans> ikonia: shall i start the torturous backup?
[07:28] <ikonia> ryannathans: if it was my disk - yes, I would.
[07:28] <ikonia> ryannathans: I can't see a situation how a standard gpt layout would be there, but ubuntu can't see it
[07:28] <darth_tux71> JasonSauce, http://tech.icrontic.com/articles/triplebootmbp/
[07:29] <JasonSauce> ty darth_tux71
[07:29] <ryannathans> ikonia: alright, ~50MB/s over gigabit lan to my other ubuntu server, the one that actually works. i'll be idling till it's done. probably 8 hours
[07:29] <darth_tux71> sure sure I have a black belt in Google-Fu!
[07:29] <Vampire> ?
[07:29] <_Vermicelli> Thanks, arghx. Just a last desperate fish- any other thoughts on my SATA3 not being recognized problem?
[07:29] <ikonia> ryannathans: the other ubuntu machine, is that using a gpt disk too ?
[07:29] <ryannathans> ikonia: it's got 2 1TB drives in raid0, linux software raid
[07:29] <ryannathans> yes
[07:30] <nico__> hello
[07:30] <ikonia> ryannathans: very interesting
[07:30] <ryannathans> ikonia: indeed it is.
[07:30] <ikonia> ryannathans: what does parted show on that disk ?
[07:30] <ryannathans> ikonia: the working one? i shall have a lookies
[07:30] <fredrikj> I've upgraded to oneric a few weeks ago, and the last couple of days I haven't seen any updates when I use apt-get update/upgrade. Is that normal this late in the release cycle?
[07:30] <ikonia> ryannathans: just out of interest
[07:30] <nico__> I'm having problems with my ubuntu system.. is anyone available to help?
[07:30] <antnash> Anyone got any idea how I tell tigervnc to use xfce desktop?
[07:31] <levartemit> Good morning guys
[07:31] <darth_tux71> hello there
[07:32] <ryannathans> ikonia: what command would you like?
[07:33] <ikonia> ryannathans: the same parted command as you used on the other machine that showed you unallocated
[07:34] <ryannathans> i'll go pastbin
[07:34] <_Vermicelli> arghx: Just found this. Giving it a try. Thanks for the effort. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11140103
[07:34] <w47331> GM all
[07:35] <ryannathans> ikonia: http://www.pastebin.com/VxJ5ED7E
[07:36] <w47331> seems during my install of ubuntu 11.04 my sound was not set up right i've read to the point i have this....http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=a20763398876e16c4ff67b07823edd709f4eb7b0     any help please i can't hear ....
[07:36] <levartemit> Guys, where could I find a beta iso of Ubuntu 11.10, to try out?
[07:37] <rww> !daily | levartemit
[07:37] <rww> !ubuntu+1
[07:37] <theDtTvB> Hello, my installation of Ubuntu 11.04 can't display Chinese characters (it just doesn't show up). Any possible fixes?
[07:37] <ryannathans> who invents these codenames
[07:38] <ryannathans> that's a horrid new name
[07:38] <ryannathans> ikonia: link work okay?
[07:38] <theDtTvB> I'm not sure what ttf- package I should install.
[07:38] <rww> ryannathans: sabdfl
[07:38] <levartemit> @ubottu > ok, thanks :)
[07:39] <ikonia> ryannathans: yeah, it's interesting to see it
[07:39] <Ben64> why didn't they do Pengiun for the PP LTS?
[07:40] <ryannathans> ikonia: that working raid is raid 0 on 2 WD GREEN disks.
[07:40] <ikonia> ryannathans: are they the two disks listed above it
[07:40] <ryannathans> ikonia: yes
[07:41] <almoxarife> theDtTvB: I don't know which but I would do any that have the words 'chinese' first
[07:41] <ikonia> ryannathans: would you do "sudo fdisk -l" on that system for me too please and pastebin it
[07:42] <ryannathans> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/JhXRUVKV
[07:43] <ryannathans> "Disk /dev/md0 doesn't contain a valid partition table"
[07:43] <ryannathans> interesting!
[07:43] <w47331> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=a20763398876e16c4ff67b07823edd709f4eb7b0      no sound any help please
[07:43] <ikonia> ryannathans: that's not a surprise as fdisk can't see gpt
[07:43] <ikonia> ryannathans: what I was interested in was the two disks making up the raid do have ms dos pased partitions on
[07:44] <bucaneiro> at ubuntu the latest release is always the better?
[07:44] <ryannathans> ikonia: when setting them up i was given a bunch of options asking what i one i wanted, i picked default
[07:44] <ryannathans> (msdos)
[07:44] <almoxarife> w47331: can you tell if you have pulseaudio installed?
[07:44] <ikonia> ryannathans: it's not a problem, I was just curious to the layout.
[07:44] <Ben64> bucaneiro: you can choose between LTS, which is only released once every two years, or the other releases, which come every 6 months
[07:44] <Ben64> bucaneiro: the LTS one is usually more stable
[07:44] <w47331> not sure how....first go'round with this
[07:45] <ryannathans> ikonia: \o/ backup @ 0.5%
[07:45] <bucaneiro> Ben64: thanks
[07:45] <nico__> How do I go about repairing my ubuntu file system that won't start up?
[07:46] <almoxarife> w47331: what type of install did you do?
[07:46] <ryannathans> nico__: boot from disc and choose repair filesystem
[07:47] <w47331> Ubuntu 11.04
[07:47] <darth_tux71> ryannathans, I just reinstall when I have coruptnessness in the FS
[07:47] <nico__> I have 11.04, and i
[07:48] <darth_tux71> i hated 11.04 I am on 10.04
[07:48] <nico__> i'm on the cd right now. the only options it has when i load from it are try ubuntu and install ubuntu
[07:48] <ryannathans> ikonia: woah, my server mustn't be very busy, i got 3 hours left on backup @ ~100MB/s
[07:49] <nico__> is there a way to fix it from my live cd
[07:50] <ryannathans> bbl
[07:50] <theDtTvB> almoxarife: Ok, thanks. Installing all of ttf-arphic-* fixed it for me.
[07:50] <w47331> how can i tell if i have that installed almoxarife?
[07:50] <TehDGM> nico__ use try ubuntu, then it will boot to a full system, from there you can easily scan the drive (just google how to :))
[07:51] <almoxarife> w47331: can you get around your desktop?
[07:51] <w47331> yea
[07:51] <nico__> TehDGM i've been searching google a bit, but i'm not finding anything useful
[07:51] <almoxarife> w47331: can you bring up synaptic?
[07:51] <w47331> sure can
[07:52] <almoxarife> w47331: do it and look for installed 'pulseaudio'
[07:52] <w47331> will do..
[07:57] <w47331> ok two things with that name are installed   1:0.9.22+stable-queue-24-g67d18-0ubuntu3.1    and   1.2.14-6.1ubuntu3
[07:59] <ryannathansAFK> back ^^
[08:01] <w47331> sorry no its not installed doing that now
[08:02] <lericson> Hi, I've got a .tgz with a debian/ directory in it. How do I add it to aptitude?
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> lericson: what is the file for?
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> lericson: what is the name of the archive?
[08:02] <lericson> libssh2
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> !info libssh2
[08:02] <lericson> libssh2_1.2.8-1.debian.tar.gz
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> lericson: what files are in the folder? are they debs?
[08:03] <almoxarife> w47331: why do I get the feeling you stripped pulseaudio and tried to run pure alsa, that use to work once, but I don't think it does anymore with ubuntu
[08:03] <lericson> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libssh2/1.2.8-1
[08:04] <w47331> ahhh very good jedi
[08:04] <lericson> ActionParsnip: no, it's a tgz with a debian/ directory (only)
[08:04] <w47331> it wasnt working from the get-go...i've been trying stuff i've read about all night
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> !info libssh2-1
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> lericson: is 1.2.6 ok?
[08:05] <lericson> sure
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> lericson: then search software centre and install from there, you don't need the archive
[08:05] <lericson> (I thought the point in debian/ directories was them being self-contained?)
[08:05] <lericson> ActionParsnip: mind you this is a server
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> lericson: I suggest you search the software centre first if you intend to install any software. It may have what you need
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> lericson: apt-cache search libssh2    would show it ;)
[08:06] <lericson> it does not
[08:06] <lericson> this is why i use gentoo :p
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> lericson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/705889/
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> lericson: it does, trust me
[08:07] <almoxarife> w47331: your issues have more to do with restoring your system to virgin state in order to get sound, from looking at youur paste I think we both have the same sound card, I did an alternate install of ubuntu 11.04 64bit, worked out of the box
[08:07] <lericson> ActionParsnip: in 11.10 perhaps, this is 7.x
[08:08] <ryannathans> oneiric is horrid codename
[08:08] <ryannathans> hope next one is betterer
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> lericson: 7.04 and 7.10 are no longer supported in any way
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> ryannathans: perfect is the next
[08:08] <almoxarife> ryannathans: its no better
[08:08] <w47331> how do i do that?
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> !perfect
[08:08] <ryannathans> lulz
[08:09] <almoxarife> w47331: talking to?
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> ryannathans: it means dream like :)
[08:09] <lericson> ActionParsnip: that's too bad, so I have to build it myself then?
[08:09] <qin> ryannathans: Oneiric, looks like "one on irc", I like.
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> lericson: I guess, you may have issues with build deps too. I suggest you clean install Natty or Oneiric
[08:10] <ryannathans> qin: that's why me no likes
[08:11] <Ben64> ActionParsnip: precise
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> ryannathans: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/10/ubuntu-12-04-named-precise-pangolin ;)
[08:13] <w47331> Sorry almoxarife i was asking how to restore to new?
[08:13] <greenit> hi, plz just write something to me, i wanna test the new sidepanel-behavior from ubuntu 11.10 ;)
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> greenit: ask in #ubuntu+1 for anything 11.01/oneiric based please
[08:14] <almoxarife> w47331: re-install, I suggest the 'alternate' iso
[08:14] <greenit> ActionParsnip, thx, u alrdy did what i wanted you to :)
[08:14] <ryannathans> hehe precise
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> greenit: cool, but oneiric is offtopic here until release day :)
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> ryannathans: fitting for an LTS ;)
[08:14] <Intel``> hi guys
[08:14] <w47331> bummer...haha
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> hi Intel``
[08:14] <w47331> hi
[08:14] <Intel``> how can i see what ubuntu is loading?
[08:15] <ryannathans> ActionParsnip: should be penguin
[08:15] <greenit> k, sry... just wanted to see the behavior of the sidepanel... the icon now shakes when something is happening *g*
[08:15] <Intel``> i mean i can only see UBUNTU and the progress bar
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> ryannathans: kinda contrived though
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> Intel``: how do you mean?
[08:15] <qin> Intel``: esc
[08:15] <Intel``> boot ah great :D
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> Intel``: like the boot splash?
[08:15] <Intel``> got it.. thanks :D
[08:15] <Intel``> i keep pressing tab :D
[08:15] <qin> Intel``: Of remove "spalsh" parameter
[08:15] <qin> *splash
[08:16] <_jack_> hai.....
[08:16] <Intel``> its a live cd . it keeps hanging  actually
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> Intel``: or press ESC when the boot splash loads (the boot splash is called plymouth)
[08:16] <Intel``> might be a bad burn
[08:16] <Intel``> will reburn again
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> Intel``: burn slow and you will have fewer issues
[08:16] <_jack_> ad org indonesia dsni....?????
[08:16] <qin> !md5
[08:16] <Intel``> im ean iso is ok its just i think i have a problem with my burner
[08:17] <Intel``> happened also with my other burns
[08:17] <w47331> thanks for the help
[08:17] <ryannathans> Intel``: burn it slowly
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> Intel``: could try a USB install if your BIOS supports it
[08:17] <fritsch> !root | fritsch
[08:17] <ryannathans> ActionParsnip: usb installs have screwed me over enough ;)
[08:18] <fritsch> ActionParsnip: i have a question concerning the root pwd
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> ryannathans: hehe. I'm thinking about making a PXE server here. Could be fun
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> fritsch: there isn't one, should answer ALL questions
[08:18] <ryannathans> ActionParsnip: same, let me know how ya go
[08:18] <lamah> how can i change text-font color for grub2 splash image i mean color of OS lines/text ?
[08:18] <lamah> for prompt
[08:19] <fritsch> ActionParsnip: jep, thx there is only a ! in shadow file
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> fritsch: if you want a root console, just run:  sudo -i
[08:19] <fritsch> ActionParsnip: yesterday when talking about the rootkits it scanned my system and found out, that ssh root login is enable by default
[08:19] <fritsch> ActionParsnip: yes, i know
[08:19] <fritsch> ActionParsnip: i do not need it, just wondering why default ubuntu server ssh enables RootLogin
[08:20] <Ben64> root is disabled though
[08:20] <fritsch> ActionParsnip: wanted to make sure, that there really ist now password somewhere - all ubuntu servers can be highjacked by a "unknown" password
[08:20] <maddine> guys i use ubuntu with windows xp and i want to make ubuntu my only os how should i go about it?
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> fritsch: never worked that one out, weird isn't it. I always disable it personally :)
[08:20] <fritsch> ActionParsnip: but /etc/shadow calms me down :-)
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> lamah: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/startup-manager-change-settings-in-grub-grub2-and-usplash.html   may help
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> maddine: how did you install Ubuntu?
[08:21] <al_nz1> to link dir /home/user/test to dir (so that what ever data is in /test appears in home/user/test) would be what??
[08:21] <fritsch> ActionParsnip: should be filed as a bug
[08:21] <maddine> i installed alongside windows it was partitioned
[08:21] <Ben64> al_nz1: ln -s <source> <destination>
[08:21] <ryannathans> maddine: delete windows patitions and expand linux
[08:21] <ryannathans> gparted
[08:21] <al_nz1> Ben64: so the source is the dir with the data already in it?
[08:22] <Ben64> yes
[08:22] <Intel``> ActionParsnip, i have burned the same iso on another computer.
[08:22] <Intel``> working fine now.. took me to the liveCD desktop :D
[08:22] <al_nz1> ta
[08:22] <fritsch> bug 4516
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> maddine: then use gparted and remove the windows partition(s). This will DESTROY the data so be sure you backup all you need. Then you can either expand the Ubuntu partition to the new free space in LiveCD/USB or create a new Ext4 partition and use it as data storage
[08:23] <fritsch> bug 45416
[08:23] <fritsch> sorry
[08:23] <al_nz1> Ben64: so if I have shared /home/user, after the link the data in /test will be accessable because test is a subdir (and linked) of /home/user
[08:23] <jpohl> my ubuntu hangs for about four minutes before it finally boots
[08:23] <Ben64> al_nz1: i'm not sure exactly what you're describing
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> jpohl: once you get booted, run:  dmesg | less     and read through, look for large gaps in the left colomn (those are seconds since the kernel came up)
[08:24] <al_nz1> Ben64: I have shared /home/user and all sub directories for SMB
[08:25] <al_nz1> there is a directory /home/user/test which is linked to source /test/
[08:25] <al_nz1> therefore will I be able to access /test because of the link?
[08:25] <Ben64> i'm not sure how samba deals with symlinks
[08:26] <MrSassyPants> roodytood is spamming
[08:26] <jpohl> ActionParsnip: the very last line is only at 41.95
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> jpohl: any large gaps though?
[08:27] <n2deep> hi all, what is the current best practice with SSD's in regards to over provisioning and TRIM support?
[08:27] <fritsch> ActionParsnip: okay, understood it. the root pwd ist done with passwd -dl, which deletes the password and sets one, that is cryptographically not matchable. PermitRootLogin is enabled cause to let them login with public keys
[08:28] <al_nz1> Ben64: didnt work :-( perms error
[08:28] <fritsch> ActionParsnip: so it does not matter for sshd_config if it is enabled or disabled
[08:28] <jpohl> ActionParsnip: no more than 17 seconds
[08:28] <n2deep> my SSD has TRIM support, so I should skip over provisioning, right?
[08:28] <al_nz1> Ben64: to remove the symlink?
[08:28] <fritsch> n2deep: just add noatime,discard to your fstab
[08:28] <Ben64> al_nz1: rm <path to symlink>
[08:29] <fritsch> n2deep: kernel > 2.6.32 must be used
[08:29] <al_nz1> Ben64: path to symlink? is that diff to path to source or path to dest?
[08:29] <n2deep> fritsch: thank you, I figured that was all i needed. I also add elevator=noop to /etc/default/grub
[08:29] <jadoman> al_nz1: you must mount this with bind sudo mount -bind -o defaults /test /home/user/test
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> fritsch: no, the account on the system used to authenticate with is disabled, can't hurt to reconfigure ssh though, double lock it out :D
[08:29] <n2deep> I definately don't want cfq on an SSD
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> jpohl: hmm, strange. Is the RAM healthy?
[08:30] <Ben64> al_nz1: you'd probably want 'rm /home/user/test'
[08:30] <Ben64> you don't want to delete the actual directory
[08:30] <jpohl> it boots ArchLinux and Windows XP just fine
[08:30] <fritsch> n2deep: what is this elevator stuff?
[08:31] <jpohl> ActionParsnip: 1.5 GB, i just ran memtest a few days ago
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> jpohl: so the dmesg is quite quick, what GPU do you use?
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> jpohl: ok thats cool :)
[08:31] <jpohl> ActionParsnip: it seems like the hang occurs while unpacking the initrd
[08:32] <fritsch> n2deep: ah read some stuff. it means that requests are directly handled by the ssd itself
[08:32] <fritsch> n2deep: will do a speed comparison
[08:32] <jadoman> al_nzl: add in fstab /test /home/user/test none defaults,bind 0 0
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> jpohl: could try reinstalling the linux-image-2.x.x.x   see if it helps
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> jpohl: uname -r   will show the kernel version
[08:33] <jpohl> ActionParsnip: kernel is 2.6.38-11-generic
[08:34] <arghx> jpohl: update-initramfs
[08:34] <al_nz1> Ben64: ok so to get around it i need to smb share for windows /test - can that be done from cli, for 'everyone' ?
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> jpohl: sudo apt-get --reinstall install 2.6.38-11-generic
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> jpohl: and do as arghx says too :)
[08:36] <jadoman> al_nz1: you colud do this but you should try to mout this with bind
[08:36] <daniel_tree> any ideas how to fix this http://imagepaste.nullnetwork.net/viewimage.php?id=2567 ?
[08:36] <jpohl> ActionParsnip: arghx: will do
[08:37] <jadoman> al_nz1: then you'll be able to enter test directory in home folder
[08:37] <asgo> I'm working on setting up a software RAID10 on an Ubuntu 11.04 Server. I've got 4 500GB harddrives that I want to use in the array. So far I've setup a 100MB /boot partition on the first harddrive, a 4GB /swap partition on each of the harddrives and then I allocated the remaining space on the harddrives for RAID. Could anyone make comments on if I'm heading in the right direction here?
[08:37] <daniel_tree> only the desktop text icon are messed up
[08:38]  * ecthiender is away: will be back in a while
[08:38] <daniel_tree> it just booted up like this one day ..and since then it is the same
[08:39] <Nimesh_Accenture> hi guys
[08:40] <Nimesh_Accenture> how do i start deveoping and debugging existing ubuntu components?
[08:41] <dr_willis> thats a bit broad Nimesh_Accenture  :)
[08:41] <dr_willis> Nimesh_Accenture:  can you program in any languages?
[08:41] <Nimesh_Accenture> in c / c++
[08:41] <Kartagis> help. what can I do about a USB HDD that's giving IO error?
[08:41] <dr_willis> theres the Motu channel where the devs hang out i belive
[08:41] <dr_willis> !motu
[08:41] <Kartagis> 0_0
[08:42] <dr_willis> Kartagis:  id be making backups asap. and use ddrescue to recover anything you cant backup.
[08:42] <Kartagis> dr_willis: I would, if I could see it
[08:43] <dr_willis> Nimesh_Accenture:  ive seen many indicator-applets that are written in python, you could play with them to make your own as a start :) always fun.
[08:43] <dr_willis> Kartagis:  does fdisk -l even show the device?
[08:44] <Kartagis> dr_willis: nope
[08:44] <dr_willis> Kartagis:  eww.   thats beyond an 'IO-Error'
[08:44] <dr_willis> well if you could ever get the device seen, you could use ddrescue to image it to a file - to recover data from.
[08:44] <daniel_tree> can anyone help me fix the icons on my desktop ?
[08:44] <Nimesh_Accenture> dr_willis: i'm basically interested in debugging existing native ( i.e building block  ) applications that are basically a part of the UBUNTU Packge , so basically wanted to know how to do that?
[08:45] <Kartagis> dr_willis: from syslog - Failed to sync device /dev/sdb1: Input/output error
[08:45] <dr_willis> Kartagis:  so the device IS seen.. its sdb :)
[08:45] <daniel_tree> here's an image showing the problem http://imagepaste.nullnetwork.net/viewimage.php?id=2567
[08:45] <dr_willis> Kartagis:  you can have ddrescue image /dev/sdb# to a file and try to recovery data from that image.
[08:46] <dr_willis> Kartagis:  how big is sdb1 ?
[08:48] <Kartagis> dr_willis: if you're asking about the USB, it's 1tb
[08:48] <pankaj_sharma> !ubuntu-in
[08:48] <dr_willis> Kartagis:  you could image the device to a file/ and try to recover. did that the other day for a failing 1.5tb usb hd.
[08:50] <Kartagis> dr_willis: will ddrescue get only the allocated parts? because I have very little space empty
[08:50] <dr_willis> Kartagis:  you dont image  TO the same hard drive. You recover to a differnt location.
[08:51] <dr_willis> image the HD to some image file on a differnt hd. mount the image file. recover imporntant files.
[08:51] <dr_willis> thats the safest way i know to try to recover all data.
[08:51] <angel28> Hello, need help please.. I would like to add to Evolution email account an HTML signature, but from some reason the signature is not rendered as HTML, and its added as plain text? any idea ?
[08:51] <dr_willis> and even then it may not get everything.
[08:52] <Jeri> pls i need your help
[08:52] <Jeri> my computer cann't login it displays Grub>
[08:52] <Jeri> need quick help
[08:52] <dr_willis> !fixgrub | Jeri
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> Jeri: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video
[08:53] <dr_willis> gotta love videos..
[08:54] <Jeri> I am using windows and ubuntu side by side
[08:54] <dr_willis> Jeri:  you mean you did a WUBI install? or did you boot the cd and install ubuntu that way?
[08:54] <dr_willis> !wubi
[08:54] <Jeri> no dear
[08:55] <Jeri> i didn't use WUBI
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> Jeri: then this is easy, the guide I gave will be fine
[08:55] <dr_willis> so you did a normal dual boot... see guide given above Jeri  and the video.
[08:55] <Jeri> yes now i am using windows part
[08:56] <Jeri> when i am try to login using ubuntu i  couldn't
[08:56] <dr_willis> if the grub boot loader is not working properly. you need to fix grub. to get it working.
[08:56] <Jeri> @dr_willis can i insert cd when i use fixgrub
[08:56] <Jeri> ?
[08:57] <dr_willis> fixgrub is not a cvommand.. its a process. :)
[08:57] <dr_willis> see the guides. You can use a cd,or a bootable flash to get into the system to repair grub.
[08:59] <jpohl> ActionParsnip: arghx: at least one of you was right... whatever I just did solved the problem, thanks!
[08:59] <atomicity> hi peeps
[08:59] <atomicity> I'm having a problem installing ubuntu on a USB-drive from the livecd.
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> jpohl: sweet
[08:59] <atomicity> says that it couldn't set the bootloader up
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> jpohl: thats all we want :)
[08:59] <atomicity> and grub-install fails with an error I haven't seen before
[09:00] <atomicity> /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot stat `aufs'.
[09:00] <atomicity> ideas?
[09:00] <atomicity> i'm installing on a 320GB usb drive
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> atomicity: http://askubuntu.com/questions/48651/cannot-install-grub-due-to-cannot-stat-aufs-error
[09:01] <atomicity> ActionParsnip: serves me right for not checking the net. Sorry
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> atomicity: np bro
[09:01] <dr_willis> askubuntu.com has gotten a good collection of solutions :)
[09:01] <dr_willis> its only been  up for what a year now?
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: not sure, I'm on it but don't post there much, it does have some great guides
[09:04] <iamgreat> Great bunch.
[09:04] <iamgreat> Your Linux distribution sucks by the Way.
[09:04] <iamgreat> Arch Linux is the best
[09:04] <dr_willis> Heres an interesting problem with my new desktop box. - the bios setting has 3 settings for teh SATA  'IDE' 'AHCI' and 'RAID' if i  use 'IDE' (the default it came with) windows 7 works, but all the Disrtos ive tried, Fail. they boot up but they cant seem to read the rest of the CD.  Oh yea. the Desktop is using that newer bios replaceent like macs use..  i forget its name. :)
[09:06] <atomicity> so... other ideas? I didn't have the problem the article stated, which was that he was specifying a partition. I *am* specifying the drive.
[09:06]  * ecthiender is back (gone 00:28:33)
[09:06] <atomicity> uefi
[09:07] <atomicity> dr_willis: ^^
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> ecthiender: please disable that
[09:07] <dr_willis> yea.  uefi. new desktop i got has that now.  Older disrtos dont like it.. 11.04 has issues..  11.10 works great. :)
[09:07] <ecthiender> ecthiender, okay
[09:07] <ecthiender> sorry :D, ActionParsnip okay
[09:07] <atomicity> dr_willis: arch handles it nicely with grub2 and gpt...
[09:07] <dr_willis> unless i switch the  ahci/ide option back and forth depending on the disrto.
[09:08] <dr_willis> atomicity:  so does 11.10 it seems. :) but i was wondering if there was some 'normal' kernel option for these disrtos that dont.
[09:08] <KamZou> Hello, is there any way to compile Bind9 with MySQL AND LDAP backend ? (sdb driver) ?
[09:08] <Azeb>  I need your help
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> ecthiender: thanks :D
[09:09] <atomicity> dr_willis: the kernel has supported it since forever AFAIK. It was grub that didn't
[09:10] <atomicity> any distro with a half-recent kernel shouldn't be having any problems with gpt partition tables, and uefi isn't even an issue
[09:10] <atomicity> so, not a kernel option
[09:10] <atomicity> problem is grub
[09:10] <dr_willis> atomicity:  the older disrots ive tried.. boot fine. (11.04, puppy, and a few others) but once they get booted to the initrd stage they have issues reading the optical drive. this is with 'IDE' enabled.. with 'AHCI' enabled. they do work.
[09:10] <Azeb> My computer couldn't login using ubuntu it displays  Gnu grup version 1.98-1 and Minimal BASH l ne edit is supported for the first word Tab list possible command completion etc Grub>
[09:10] <dr_willis> so this is past grub.
[09:10] <almoxarife> installed 11.10's backup method on 11.04, I like, 11.04 likes it too, now, who can tell me how I can trouble shoot a rdp connection issue on ubuntu, yes its to virtualbox, and yes there is a port listening on <IP_ADDRESS> but tsclient gets connection refused, and yes, virtualbox is checked to run the vrdp
[09:10] <atomicity> oh...
[09:11] <dr_willis> If i could just get windows to stop BSODing wheni enable AHCI. id just leave it on ahci. :)
[09:11] <skipr> hello, I have a problem
[09:11] <atomicity> hm... yeah, I remember reading something about windows not supporting AHCI sata mode at all
[09:11] <atomicity> win7 should though
[09:11] <skipr> I installed kernel 3.0.4 on my laptop with ubuntu 10.10
[09:11] <skipr> and now runway 6 (for gdm3) is spazzing strangely
[09:11] <Azeb> my computer couln't login
[09:11] <dr_willis> well win7 supports it.. but its a pain to get the actual drivetrs installed it seems.. reg tweak. then a few reboots.. which dident work. so i gave up trying. :)
[09:11] <skipr> and after a few minutes it just dies and goes back to tty1
[09:12] <skipr> anyone?
[09:12] <almoxarife> this is why my win7 runs in a nice virtualbox without any complaints
[09:12] <atomicity> but it's kind of iffy (no firsthand experience though), win8 should be uefi only anyway
[09:12] <Azeb> when press power butten it couldn't login
[09:12] <Azeb> it display grub>
[09:12] <dr_willis> so for now wheni want to boot up a older linux disro. i have to go to the bios and switch the setting.  unless its one with kernel 3.x it seems.
[09:12] <Azeb> pleasssssssssssssssss help me
[09:12] <skipr> SOMEONE
[09:12] <skipr> this is not #windows
[09:12] <atomicity> Azeb: ...
[09:12] <almoxarife> Azeb: what type of install?
[09:13] <dr_willis> skipr:  you are using gnome3 on 10.10 ?
[09:13] <dr_willis> or was that a typo and you ment 11.10 ?
[09:13] <Azeb> I using both windows and ubuntu side by side now it is not working ubuntu
[09:13] <skipr> dr_willis, no, im not using 11.10, im using 10.10
[09:13] <fritsch> Azeb: does your windows still boot?
[09:13] <dr_willis> Azeb:  were you just here as 'Jeri' ?
[09:13] <skipr> im using gnome2
[09:13] <almoxarife> Azeb: you mean wubi installed ubuntu?
[09:14] <Azeb> yap
[09:14] <Azeb> cus his computer is not working
[09:14] <dr_willis> the term 'side by side' means nothing to us.  use the phrase 'dual booting' if you did a normal install of ubuntu to its own parittions..
[09:14] <Azeb> so help us
[09:14] <KamZou> What is the difference Between DLZ and SDB (bind9 Backend related) ?
[09:14] <Azeb> no
[09:14] <almoxarife> Azeb: easy fix, don't stress, the fix is on the windows side
[09:14] <Azeb> simply i install side by side
[09:15] <skipr> Azeb, side by side could mean anything
[09:15] <dr_willis> Azeb:  you did or did not use 'wubi' ?
[09:15] <zagibu> so you put both cds in while installing?
[09:15] <almoxarife> Azeb: you did say it was a wubi install right?
[09:15] <dr_willis> Azeb:  you did or did not 'boot the cd, and did a normal install'  be detailed in your answer.
[09:15] <skipr> dr_willis, plz help, I don't have much time left
[09:15] <dr_willis> just saying 'yes' and 'no' can be confuseing.
[09:16] <skipr> this session will close in 3 minutes
[09:16] <Azeb> how can i fix the problem i have a lot of data's on pc
[09:16] <dr_willis> skipr:  i dont even know why you decided to put a newer kernel in 10.10 -  i dont mess with kernels.
[09:16] <almoxarife> Azeb: one last time, was your install method  'wubi'??????????
[09:16] <dr_willis> skipr:  i dont even know what 'runway 6 for gdm3' is either..
[09:16] <Azeb> no sir
[09:17] <atomicity> f** me gently with a chainsaw...
[09:17] <skipr> dr_willis, by runway 6 i meant ctrl+shift+F6
[09:17] <skipr> and gdm3 is my window manager
[09:17] <skipr> instead of the default gdm
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> Azeb: got backup?
[09:17] <dr_willis> skipr:  gdm is a LOGIN manager...  and alt-ctrl-F6 would get you to a console... so whats the actual issue?
[09:17] <atomicity> I am actually going to have to use dd to get grub-install to quit complaining
[09:17] <almoxarife> Azeb: did your machine start with grub or some win login?
[09:18] <Promille>  /e f*** atomicity gently... with a chainsaw
[09:18] <Azeb> no
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> Azeb: why not, is your data not important?
[09:18] <Azeb> it is very important sir
[09:18] <atomicity> Promille: we have a beautiful thing going, you and I
[09:18] <skipr> dr_willis, my computer switches from C+S+F6 to F7 and back again like crazy
[09:18] <dr_willis> !fixgrub | Azeb
[09:18] <luca> dear friends, how one person can contribute to ubuntu community?
[09:18] <skipr> luca, write code
[09:18] <zagibu> Azeb: obviously not, since you didn't make a backup
[09:18] <dr_willis> skipr:  so you are saying that GDM is crashing and restarting?  you got ssh installed? you chould ssh in from a differnt box and stop the gdm service.
[09:19] <Promille> hm..
[09:19] <Azeb> tnx
[09:19] <skipr> dr_willis i tried to stop it and then I am at tty1
[09:19] <dr_willis> luca:  the ubuntu manual project was looking for help the other day. :)
[09:19] <luca> I created a launchpad account and a wiki page
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> Azeb: the drive motor fails, where is your data?
[09:19] <skipr> brb later though
[09:19] <dr_willis> skipr:  if you get back to the consoles, try 'startx' and look for error messages
[09:19] <Promille> atomicity: I <3 it
[09:20] <Azeb> disktop and Document
[09:20] <luca> dr_willis: ubuntu manual project, what is it?
[09:20] <dr_willis> luca:  a project to make a ubuntu manual...... :)
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> Azeb: no, the disk dies. It is not spinning up at boot... where is it?
[09:20] <dr_willis> the current one is getting out dated.
[09:20] <dr_willis> !manual
[09:20] <almoxarife> Azeb: did your machine start with grub or some win login?
[09:21] <Azeb> no
[09:21] <luca> dr_willis: in this channel there is always people, it's very interesting
[09:21] <dr_willis> its good to have a decent referance to point total beginners to. :)
[09:21] <Azeb> sorry yes yes
[09:21] <Azeb> starts grub>
[09:21] <almoxarife> Azeb: do you know how to use a rescue disk to fix grub?
[09:22] <Azeb> no dear
[09:22] <almoxarife> dear? aint your dear son
[09:22] <almoxarife> Azeb: you will need to learn then
[09:23] <Azeb> yes
[09:23] <almoxarife> yes
[09:23] <zagibu> Azeb: just get a new disk, install an OS, and put your current disk in an external enclosure, then connect it to your new system and get your data back
[09:24] <atomicity> let me check here before I do something very stupid
[09:24] <atomicity> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb ibs=4096 count=1000
[09:24] <zagibu> Azeb: if you mess further with your current disk, chances are, you will destroy your data, which you boviously don't have a backup of
[09:24] <atomicity> will only overwrite the first 4megs with zeros right?
[09:25] <zagibu> and yes, I did mean boviously, because you are an ox for not having a backup
[09:25] <almoxarife> zagibu: wtf is it with you?
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> zagibu: +1
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> zagibu: for ox thing
[09:26] <zagibu> wtf is it with you? you are trying to get an obvious amateur to manually repair grub in a live system that still has important data on it?
[09:26] <ikonia> zagibu: tone it down please.
[09:26] <almoxarife> zagibu: yes
[09:26] <luca> ubottu: why the project is about Ubuntu 10.10 and not 11.04??
[09:27]  * dr_willis thinks everyone has lost track of the actual problem.. i know i have.
[09:27] <dr_willis> luca:  its being updated.. thats why they were asking for help..
[09:27] <zagibu> tone what down, please? I was not the one starting to get personal
[09:27] <luca> ubottu: I think you are better than me
[09:27] <ikonia> zagibu: just the language and anger, lets try to get back on track
[09:27] <luca> ubottu: what is a bot?
[09:27] <ikonia> zagibu: appreciate you protecting the user from risk
[09:28] <luca> dr_willis: i know it's a long term period version
[09:29] <dr_willis> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/?p=21278  The Ubuntu Manual Project Needs Your Help For Oneiric
[09:31] <luca> dr_willis: i didn't know this manual project
[09:31] <dr_willis> I think they need to work on a Unity 101 guide. :)
[09:31] <dr_willis> luca:  its been around for some time.. but its hard to keep it up to date with every reelase.. then you get people that never read the manuals anyway
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> !manual
[09:32] <dr_willis> I always focus when i train people on 'learning the fundamentals'   knowing how to to use the shell wont change over the next 5 releases.. the gui... who can tell. :)
[09:32] <atomicity> so I managed to get grub installed manually
[09:32] <dr_willis> and a top 10 list of common problems :) on page one.
[09:32] <atomicity> I hope the installer will figure it out for itself too
[09:33] <dr_willis> 10 Common Mistakes new users do when starting with linux. - would make a good artical somewhere.
[09:34] <albech> is it possible to mute Banshee automatically on incoming Skype calls?
[09:35] <openvpn> How do I add OpenVPN to the "Choose a VPN Connection Type" in Ubuntu?
[09:35] <luca> dr_willis: now I'm using the 11.04, I didn't find any manuals for ubuntu it's a good idea
[09:35] <luca> dr_willis: I prefer something about programmation
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> albech: which releae are you using?
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> *release
[09:36] <luca> dr_willis: I'm not very good in language, especially english technical informatic language I'm from Italy
[09:36] <atomicity> albech: yeah, with skype you can configure pulseaudio to mute other stuff when calls are in progress
[09:36] <albech> openvpn, apt-get install network-manager-openvpn
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> albech: seems a package called earcandy does it but this ppa only goes up to Maverick: http://ubuntuguide.net/install-the-smart-pulseaudio-volume-manager-ear-candy-in-ubuntu
[09:37] <albech> atomicity, is that done within skype or pulse audio?
[09:37] <luca> dr_willis: about skype can you do videocalls on it?
[09:37] <atomicity> albech: I don't know how precisely, I know it happens for me in arch automagically
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> albech: if you can find a ppa for your release (if you use natty) then grab that
[09:37] <atomicity> albech: it's been a while since i've done anything about that
[09:37] <atomicity> albech: check skype settings first
[09:38] <openvpn> albech: Thanks, man!
[09:38] <dr_willis> luca:  i avoide skype as much as possible
[09:38] <zagibu> Azeb: did you get what I was saying? Your disk is the last instance of your data, don't mess with it, if your data is important. Remove the disk and put it in an external enclosure, then connect it to another system to get the data back.
[09:38] <atomicity> dr_willis: why? it works, and the audio quality is 2nd to none
[09:39] <luca> dr_willis: what do you use for videocalling on Ubuntu?
[09:39] <dr_willis> and it seems MS is about to become its owner atomicity ...
[09:39] <atomicity> dr_willis: we deal with that when it happens.
[09:39] <dr_willis> luca:  i have this thing called a 'cell phone' :) it can actually do calls..
[09:39] <albech> atomicity, ActionParsnip thanks guys.. i will look at this
[09:39] <atomicity> albech: glad I could be of some help
[09:40] <dr_willis> i never saw the  point of a 'video' call  either..  nice to see the grandkids.. but thats about it.
[09:40] <atomicity> dr_willis: oh, I use video calls all the time.
[09:40] <luca> dr_willis: why Ubuntu cannot do videocalls? I think it has to be better than Windows about all fields
[09:40] <howlymowly> hi poeple..   short question I updated to oneiric yesterday and have someproblems upgrading my system right now with aptitude as it says:   " Resolving dependencies...
[09:40] <howlymowly> Unable to resolve dependencies for the upgrade: no solution found.
[09:40] <howlymowly> Unable to safely resolve dependencies, try running with --full-resolver.
[09:40] <howlymowly> "
[09:40] <FloodBot1> howlymowly: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:40] <howlymowly> any idea about this?
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> howlymowly: oneiric isn't supported here, ask in #ubuntu+1 pleas
[09:40] <howlymowly> ActionParsnip: thx..   & sorry
[09:40] <dr_willis> luca:  I dont use them.. no idea on what apps out there for video calls exist.. Ive used skype for VOIP in the past.. but not any more.
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> howlymowly: np :)
[09:41] <luca> atomicity: Is possible to videocall on skype on Ubuntu? How?
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> !skype
[09:41] <atomicity> video calls are nice because I have a whiteboard behind my camera so I can brainstorm across the pond
[09:41] <atomicity> luca: easy. You only need a v4l2 or v4l camera
[09:42] <dr_willis> I recall skype having a whitebord  extension/application/feature....
[09:42] <atomicity> luca: which is basically any webcam lately
[09:42] <atomicity> and it supports it out of the box
[09:42] <luca> ubottu: I already have skype on Ubuntu but I cannot videocall
[09:42] <dr_willis> Webcams either seem to  work with no hassles, or are totally unsupported in linux. :)
[09:42] <atomicity> dr_willis: I dislike drawing with my mous
[09:42] <atomicity> mouse*
[09:43] <almoxarife> dr_willis: got a google account?
[09:43] <dr_willis> Luckly in my job.. i rarely even need to talk to people... :)
[09:43] <ryannathans> key guys
[09:43] <dr_willis> almoxarife:  a dozen of them. :P
[09:43] <ryannathans> i need a touch of help with a PXE boot
[09:43] <atomicity> dr_willis: I'm a mathematician, boards are sort of natural
[09:43] <luca> atomicity: I have only the webcam of my laptop
[09:43] <atomicity> hurrah, got over the bootloader stage
[09:44] <atomicity> apparently zeroing the beginning of the drive with dd does work wonders
[09:44] <ryannathans> i'm trying to boot ubuntu 11.04 desktop 64bit over PXE but while booting it tells me to 'provide a name for this disc, such as 'Debian 5.0.3 disk 1'':
[09:44] <atomicity> although it might not be the best thing to put in a newb tutorial
[09:44] <ryannathans> what do?
[09:44] <ryannathans> this is my first pxe boot
[09:44] <ryannathans> ActionParsnip: pxe setup ;D
[09:45] <almoxarife> dr_willis: the google chat/video thing works great, on ubuntu even, I use it to talk to my mother :) , simpler than skype and a lot cleaner video/voice, so she says
[09:45] <atomicity> luca: try to open the device of the webcam with vlc
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> ryannathans: nice, never done it myself but it will happen. 4 days off soon an I have a box sat doing nothing
[09:45] <atomicity> luca: it should be /dev/video0
[09:45] <odlare> !list
[09:45] <atomicity> if you don't have it it's probably not supported
[09:46] <Netham45> Anyone know how to disable x auth on KDM>
[09:46] <Netham45> ?*
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> luca: install cheese, does it work there
[09:46] <atomicity> Netham45: it's in the systemsettings
[09:46] <dr_willis> Cheese is the ultimate test it seems. :)
[09:46] <atomicity> Netham45: somewhere...
[09:46] <isan> ciao
[09:47] <isan> !list
[09:47] <atomicity> isan: um... why are you spamming this?
[09:47] <almoxarife> simple as pie to test a cam on vlc
[09:47] <luca> atomicity: vlc media player?
[09:47] <atomicity> luca: indeed
[09:49] <luca> atomicity: I found the file video0 into the directory dev
[09:49] <Netham45> Know which tab it's under in the sysstem settings?
[09:49] <dr_willis> luca:  easier to just test the cam with cheese.
[09:49] <ryannathans> my first pxe boot, got this message, it's stuck and i can't type. http://i53.tinypic.com/20ibcb8.jpg
[09:49] <ryannathans> ubuntu 11.04
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> luca: sudo apt-get install cheese; cheese
[09:50] <luca> atomicity: my webcam works very well on cheese I've already installed it
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> ryannathans: are you installing debian?
[09:50] <luca> atomicity: the problem is skype not cheese
[09:51] <ryannathans> ActionParsnip: no, this is ubuntu 11.04 64bit desktop
[09:51] <ryannathans> if i hit up arrow i see the ubuntu splaash screen with dots
[09:51] <luca> dr_willis: I tried on cheese and the webcam works very good
[09:51] <ryannathans> dem 4 or 5 dots
[09:52] <BlackBinary> i hate this damn spam bots
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> ryannathans: http://www.howtoforge.com/setting-up-a-pxe-install-server-on-ubuntu-9.10-p3
[09:53] <atomicity> ok, so I'm in my brand new ubuntu system on the USB
[09:53] <atomicity> q1: best way to get rid of unity
[09:54] <ryannathans> ActionParsnip: as a matter of fact i used that guide
[09:54] <atomicity> q2: what packages do I need for a minimal development system (so, gcc, llvm, make and friends, cmake) - mainly asking if I forgot anything, like header packages and stuff like that
[09:54] <ryannathans> ActionParsnip: i connect to pxe, it loads kernel/initrd and starts loading the actual distro, then stuck there
[09:54] <ryannathans> i bet it's a flag im passing i
[09:54] <luca> atomicity: mt version of skype is beta
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> ryannathans: check your steps with the guide
[09:55] <atomicity> luca: works fine for me
[09:55] <luca> atomicity: I don't know if there is another version
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> atomicity: build-essential
[09:55] <luca> atomicity: which version of skype do you use?
[09:55] <madi> hello /msg actionpasnip you cut me off
[09:55] <atomicity> luca: can't answer that right now, I'd have to chroot and I don't want to
[09:56] <atomicity> what bleeding terminal app is the default on this damn unity, I can't find it
[09:56] <atomicity> only thing I found is xterm and I don't know how to change the font on it
[09:56] <ikonia> atomicity: calmd down
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> atomicity: gnome-terminal, same as always. search dash for it
[09:56] <luca> atomicity: you don't have skype installed on the pc you are using now?
[09:57] <atomicity> aaah, that's better
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> atomicity: if you use terminal a lot, I suggest you install guake and make it run at login, you can then hide and show the terminal with a shortcut key :)
[09:57] <atomicity> luca: I'm booted into the sparkling new ubuntu system on my usb key
[09:57] <atomicity> ActionParsnip: will do. kde user here, don't know any gnome alternatives :)
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> atomicity: yakuake
[09:57] <atomicity> ActionParsnip: use that all the time.
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> atomicity: same deal, default key is F12 but it can be changed as you wish
[09:58] <luca> atomicity: new ubuntu system? you mean 11.10?
[09:58] <atomicity> luca: I just installed an ubuntu on my usb key and am hacking on it
[09:59] <atomicity> luca: the irc is running on my server in a screen session so you didn't see me relog
[10:00] <atomicity> wth... cmake isn't in the repos?
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> atomicity: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[10:01] <atomicity> ActionParsnip: nattz
[10:01] <atomicity> natty
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> cool
[10:02] <atomicity> it found it
[10:02] <atomicity> after I pressed enter
[10:03] <isan> !list
[10:05] <atomicity> ok, kdevelop isn't in the repos?
[10:05] <luca> atomicity: Interesting which version are you using? and which is the memory of the USB
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> !info kdevelop
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> atomicity: it is, its in the main repo
[10:06] <_kad> hey, i need help!! i have setup a pppoe connection then i restart.. now after that my wlan0 is not working it show me: device is not managed (in my windows it works fine). my eth0 is working properly !! what cause this problem and how to fix it?? thx in advance
[10:07] <atomicity> luca: I have archlinux and win7 dualbooting on the same laptop. I also need ubuntu to carry around in my pocket for something, and that is what I set up in the last couple of hours. I'm now installing the required software to the ubuntu system.
[10:07] <atomicity> ActionParsnip: hm... I'm pretty sure I didn't misspell it in the search in ubuntu software center
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> _kad: did you define the wireless interface in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:07] <atomicity> or should I be using something else to install programs?
[10:07] <_kad> ActionParsnip, yes i did it dhcp and manual ... same issue
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> atomicity: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install kdevelop
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> _kad: that's why then
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> _kad: if you specify interfaces in that file, network manager cannot touch it#
[10:08] <atomicity> ActionParsnip: oh, so I must apt-get manually?
[10:08] <arghx> atomicity: you can use apt-get if you want to, but both use the same DB of available packages
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> atomicity: its no less manual than searching software centre, is it?
[10:08] <almoxarife> atomicity: try synaptic
[10:08] <_kad> ActionParsnip, ok now i remove the wlan0 config and i left the auto lo , same problem!!
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> _kad: reboot
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> _kad: changing the text file and doing nothing else doesn't change anything
[10:09] <atomicity> ActionParsnip: oh, I don't have a problem with that, I just thaught software center did it already.
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> atomicity: no idea, I don't use it. Its too slow for my tastes
[10:09] <atomicity> ActionParsnip: heh, I have a feeling I'm gonna do the same
[10:09] <_kad> ActionParsnip, i'm rebooting, well i though restarting the network service will affect.. now rebooting
[10:09] <atomicity> almoxarife: thanks.
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> _kad: should do the same, reboot covers all bases
[10:10] <_kad> ActionParsnip,  ok same issue :( still Wireless connection : device not managed
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> atomicity: by the time any gui package app loads on my OS and can have apt-fast pulling down what I need and installing :)
[10:11] <atomicity> ActionParsnip: This topic of conversation intrigues me and I wish to learn more
[10:11] <atomicity> apt-fast?
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> atomicity: search and ye shall find
[10:11] <luca> atomicity: your ubuntu is on USB key??
[10:11] <_kad> ActionParsnip, this happen when i configure pppoeconf!!
[10:11] <atomicity> luca: yes.
[10:12] <ryannathans> damn you pxe
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> _kad: not sure, I've not use pppoe
[10:12] <luca> atomicity: how is possible? A usb key can contain ubuntu?
[10:12] <ryannathans> i can access the server, call the second menu, boot the image, just not any further, 'name your cdrom' I CANT TYPE!
[10:12] <atomicity> luca: I burned the livecd, booted form the livecd, and with complications installed ubuntu on a usb key of size 100GB
[10:13] <atomicity> so, I guess it's not as much a usb key as it is a disk, but still
[10:13] <atomicity> atomicity: it could have been a 16GB usb key
[10:14] <atomicity> root has 3.7 gigs of room taken
[10:14] <atomicity> so I guess you could even do it on 4 gigs
[10:16] <luca> atomicity: It's an hard disk of 100 GB
[10:16] <atomicity> luca: it has a usb interface
[10:16] <atomicity> luca: it's the same as a usb key
[10:17] <atomicity> luca: lunux doesn't give a shit about the underlying storage medium as far as the driver goes
[10:17] <atomicity> luca: it's block-storage-over-usb
[10:17] <atomicity> luca: I really don't see what is so hard to believe here
[10:18] <ahhughez> could anyone shed any light on this one? I can connect my keyboard via bluetooth.... but when I connect the trackpad it disconnects the keyboard and vice-a-versa. Any ideas what might cause this? I know next to nothing... but maybe my 2.0 bluetooth dongle is running as bluetooth 1.0.... which duid not support multiple devices... but I can't prove or disprove this.
[10:18] <smiths> after trying to install firmware i am getting following messages:  Setting up firmware-b43-installer (<IP_ADDRESS>-4) ...
[10:18] <smiths> Not supported low-power chip with PCI id 14e4:4315!
[10:18] <smiths> Aborting.
[10:18] <smiths> dpkg: error processing firmware-b43-installer (--configure):
[10:18] <smiths>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[10:18] <smiths> Errors were encountered while processing:
[10:18] <FloodBot1> smiths: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:18] <steph7> Hi, I need info 'bout a WNDA3100V2 netgear wifi usb adapt..on lucid 64b, someone knows it?
[10:20] <atomicity> ActionParsnip: the version here http://www.mattparnell.com/linux/apt-fast/ legit?
[10:21] <luca> atomicity: I don't understand why you cakk an hard disk usb key
[10:22] <atomicity> luca: because i'm not a native english speaker and I don't really care
[10:23] <pmnull> hi
[10:23] <luca> atomicity: where are you from? Usb key are of 8GB 16 GB but i don't think there are version bigger
[10:23] <pmnull> neone good with nmap
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> atomicity: which release are you using?
[10:23] <ahhughez> luca, I saw a 64GB one today for the first time
[10:24] <atomicity> luca: slovenia. I *know* an usb hd isn't a usb-key but it doesn't make a difference as far as software goes.
[10:24] <ahhughez> SD cards have a 32GB limit AFAIK tho.
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> atomicity: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:tldm217/tahutek.net; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install apt-fast
[10:24] <pmnull> if found an open port 80/tcp and embedded allegro rompage webserver. i have no idea what im talking about but if someone does that would be gr8
[10:24] <luca> ahhughez: Really?
[10:24] <johnm> ahhughez: They don't :)
[10:25] <auronandace> ahhughez: there are bigger ones
[10:25] <pmnull> i didnt know i was running a server even..
[10:25] <ahhughez> sweet! bigger is better
[10:25] <luca> atomicity: Yes for software it's the same
[10:25] <luca> atomicity: how is archlinux??
[10:25] <johnm> ahhughez: http://www.misco.co.uk/Product/168805/Kingston-256GB-DataTraveler-310 as an example
[10:25] <atomicity> ActionParsnip: ummmm... of apt-fast? lemme see... header says 0.03
[10:25] <klingelbart> in unity: does anyone know how i can define wich program-shortcuts will pop up when clicking on the button in the upper left?
[10:25] <atomicity> luca: awesome.
[10:25] <Abhijit> how to know username of my ftp server on localhost?
[10:26] <Abhijit> i only installed lamp. i dont know how to use ftp
[10:26] <luca> atomicity: Is it better than ubuntu??
[10:26] <ahhughez> can anyone tell me if I can up the dpi on my screen? NVidia GT520.... this HTPC is hurting my eyes
[10:26] <atomicity> luca: I love it. The only reason I'm installing ubuntu is that it's not meant as a portable distro (portable as in carry it around in your pocket and expect it to work everywhere you plug it in)
[10:26] <atomicity> luca: hm... let me check something
[10:26] <auronandace> luca: arch follows a rolling release, ubuntu isn't
[10:26] <pmnull> neone understand nmap
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> atomicity: the link you gave is essentially what you need, install axel and it'll work
[10:27] <klingelbart> in unity: how do i choose wich programms are shown when clicking on the button in the upper left?
[10:27] <johnm> pmnull: I'm sure lots of people understand nmap :)
[10:27] <atomicity> ActionParsnip: thanks
[10:27] <pmnull> hello jon u ne ideass
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> atomicity: if you remove the stupid .sh extension, mark is as executable and sling it in /usr/bin
[10:27] <luca> auronadance: what is a rolling release?
[10:27] <atomicity> luca: yeah, archlinux is better than ubuntu
[10:27] <atomicity> more current packages
[10:27] <atomicity> (for instance, gcc 4.6)
[10:27] <auronandace> luca: the software is updated on a constant basis
[10:27] <pmnull> is nohack on freenode
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> atomicity: one distro is not better than another, each has different aims
[10:28] <atomicity> ActionParsnip: sorry, I know, I'mtrolling a bit
[10:28] <auronandace> luca: in other words when you update you are always running the latest
[10:28] <luca> auronadance: Is it free as ubuntu?
[10:28] <pmnull> when i try kde plasma screen goes black
[10:28] <auronandace> luca: of course
[10:28] <auronandace> luca: but this is ubuntu support
[10:28] <pmnull> nvidia geforce 8200 m g dont work in linux
[10:28] <atomicity> ActionParsnip: I didn't feel like giving luca the 'everything is good for something' speech
[10:28] <luca> auronadance: Yes I knoe I use ubuntu
[10:28] <auronandace> luca: you'd need a registered nick to join #archlinux
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> pmnull: install nvidia-current and it will work
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> atomicity: ;)
[10:29] <pmnull> how?
[10:29] <pmnull> sudo nvidia-current install apt-get??
[10:29] <pmnull> or summin
[10:29] <pmnull> package manager has self combusted
[10:29] <almoxarife> pmnull: also insure your onboard vid is not clobbering the card(vpu)
[10:30] <atomicity> ActionParsnip: thanks a lot for all the help
[10:30] <atomicity> ActionParsnip: this looks like it'll work
[10:30] <pmnull> ah thanks right
[10:30] <atomicity> ActionParsnip: last question, then I have to go
[10:30] <pmnull> ne idea why nmap found open port 8o/tcp and embedded allegro rompager webserver-what is it????
[10:31] <atomicity> ActionParsnip: how much behind are package updates usually on ubuntu?
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> atomicity: there is a way to make software centre use it, not sure though
[10:31] <pmnull> port 80 open. have firestarter and snort
[10:31] <pmnull> pinged myself
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> atomicity: depends from package to package
[10:31] <atomicity> ActionParsnip: because I'm gonna want clang 3.0 as soon as it comes out
[10:31] <almoxarife> pmnull: lets assume it found that somwhere you did not expect it to be, that is the question
[10:32] <atomicity> ActionParsnip: and I'm not really sure how welcome packages built from source are on ubuntu systems
[10:32] <atomicity> I have no problems with such stuff on archlinux but ubuntu seems fairly integrated
[10:32] <pmnull> just seem to get by have no idea at all...is it a vulnerability almoxarife
[10:32] <atomicity> not sure how it would deal with me poking around /etc
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> atomicity: there may be a ppa for the app
[10:32] <almoxarife> pmnull: did you find that on something you own?
[10:33] <pmnull> yes my computer!
[10:33] <almoxarife> pmnull: did you put it there?
[10:33] <pmnull> i dont think so no
[10:33] <pmnull> how to get if off
[10:33] <almoxarife> pmnull: do you offer up web ?
[10:33] <pmnull> no
[10:34] <pmnull> must have got it by mistake how to kill it
[10:34] <klingelbart> in unity, is it possible to create some kind of "folder" in the quickstart panel, so i can group shortcuts of more programms?
[10:34] <pmnull> or will it kill my connection if i do
[10:34] <almoxarife> pmnull: you are not running linux?
[10:34] <Kartagis> !oneiric
[10:34] <pmnull> gnome natty was killed by compiz confib
[10:34] <pmnull> config
[10:34] <atomicity> ActionParsnip: thanks for pointing ppas out
[10:34] <atomicity> didn't know about them at all
[10:35] <atomicity> there are some
[10:35] <auronandace> !ppa | atomicity
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> atomicity: i found a ppa for 2.9-7
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> atomicity: https://launchpad.net/~yagisan/+archive/ppa
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> atomicity: could contact the maintainer, see if they are going to make 3.0
[10:35] <almoxarife> y ppa manager kicks the llamas azz
[10:35] <atomicity> ActionParsnip: will do.
[10:36] <atomicity> thanks for all the help
[10:36] <atomicity> I gtg
[10:36] <pmnull> the panel disappeared and could never get it back
[10:36] <atomicity> food
[10:36] <atomicity> :)
[10:36] <FloodBot1> atomicity: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:36] <pmnull> how to get embedded allegro server off my computer pls
[10:37] <pmnull> i have a horrible feeling its broadcasting summin to the world like the porn sites i visited ha. ooh i dunno. all this is too much. back to windows ...methinkks...
[10:38] <ahhughez> is it posssible to see why my boot time is sooooo bad. It was 30sec... now its like 4mins. :'(
[10:39] <MonkeyDust> ahhughez: there's this kworker bug, that 'eats' your CPU, look for information on the internet
[10:40] <ShadowSong> #android-dev
[10:40] <monsterrr> #android
[10:40] <monsterrr> oh
[10:41] <ahhughez> thanks MonkeyDust
[10:42] <lqx> HEELO
[10:43] <anandvenkat4> Any pointers for programmatic implementation of L2TP in Mac?
[10:43] <lqx> 这是什么东西
[10:44] <ryannathans> RAGE MAD, pxe boot, not sure why this is happening, trying to boot ubuntu 11.04 64bit desktop: http://i53.tinypic.com/20ibcb8.jpg
[10:45] <ahhughez> MonkeyDust, thats not it, thats intel graphics related. Can I capture status of the boot somehow? see what/where all the time is spent?
[10:46] <Kolt> Hi! I have a problem with nattynarwhal. When I tell it to go to suspend, it freezes. What should I do?
[10:46] <unimtest> hello
[10:46] <ryannathans> ikonia: ping
[10:46] <unimtest> trying message
[10:46] <unimtest> hello
[10:47] <ryannathans> unimtest: ?'
[10:47] <ikonia> ryannathans: bit busy at the moment
[10:47] <ecd> exi5t
[10:47] <ecd> exit
[10:48] <ecd> End
[10:50] <crash82> anyone know of a dhcp server channel ?
[10:51] <monsterrr> #no
[10:52] <crash82> :(
[10:52] <Kartagis> ##networking
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> Kolt: does the system have a make and model?
[10:53] <Kolt> ActionParsnip: this is an asus G73J
[10:54] <Kartagis> when is 11.10 due, or am I not supposed to ask here?
[10:55] <BobSaget69> I am trying to mount an external usb HDD (ntfs format) and have it accessible through samba to Win 7 machine. I plugged it into Ubuntu 11.04 server, it appears up although its not mounted. I tried "sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /mnt/extdisk" and it mounts but dissapears gui nautilus (??) view. and I can't access it from my win 7 machine. Any ideas??
[10:55] <Gneedah> when is 11.10 due, or am i not supposed to ask here?
[10:55] <Gneedah> matts1lver1
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> Kolt: are there any bugs reported for the system?
[10:56] <Gneedah> any ideas??
[10:56] <Gneedah> matts1lver1
[10:56] <ubuntu_> googletalk123
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> Gneedah: ask in #ubuntu+1 for anything oneiric/11.10 based
[10:56] <Gneedah> when is 11.10 due, or am i not supposed to ask here?
[10:56] <Kolt> ActionParsnip: No. I dont have and I havent heared of any other bugs.
[10:57] <comitt> hi. is there a way to resize an existing partition without losing data on that partition? thanks
[10:57] <Gneedah> when is 11.10 due, or am i tried sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /mnt/extdisk and have it from my win 7 machine
[10:57] <Kartagis> Gneedah: stop trolling
[10:57] <Gneedah> gneedah: ask in #ubuntu+1 for anything oneiric/11.10 based
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> Kolt: http://askubuntu.com/questions/24081/why-is-ubuntu-unmounting-my-primary-hard-drive
[10:57] <Gneedah> kolt: are there any other bugs.
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> Gneedah: ask in #ubuntu+1 for oneiric please
[10:58] <Gneedah> gneedah: ask in #ubuntu+1 for the system?
[10:59] <almoxarife> looking at the users man 'ubuntu 10.10', is 10.10 the manual version or ubuntu version?
[10:59] <comitt> is it possible to resize an existing partition without losing data on that partition? thanks
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> !10.10 | almoxarife
[10:59] <Gneedah> looking at the users man 'ubuntu 10.10', is 10.10 the manual version or ubuntu 11.04 server, it accessible through samba to win 7 machine
[10:59] <BobSaget69> Gneedah: stop trolling, get lost
[11:00] <MrBoss> hello
[11:00] <MrBoss> someone?
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> comitt: usually, make sure your backups are up to date and you'll be fine
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> MrBoss: someone what?
[11:01] <JadedJacob> Hi.
[11:01] <MrBoss> i want to run SAP.
[11:01] <JadedJacob> I'm running ubuntu server 11.04
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> !rootirc | Guest42598
[11:01] <Guest42598> hello
[11:01] <MrBoss> ActionParsnip, do you know SAP?
[11:01] <JadedJacob> how can I install the latest version of mplayer?
[11:02] <JadedJacob> i tried apt-get install mplayer
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> MrBoss: none at all
[11:02] <JadedJacob> but it didn't install the latest
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> !latest | JadedJacob
[11:02] <jrib> JadedJacob: that installs the latest version in the repositories.  Why do you need the latest?
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | JadedJacob
[11:03] <JadedJacob> I'm wanting to do video encoding on my server
[11:03] <comitt> is it possible to instal ubuntu and other linux distros on the same partition (swap partition separately), if there is enough space?
[11:03] <jrib> JadedJacob: so why not use the version in the repositories?
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> comitt: they will need their own partition
[11:03] <MrBoss> i search SAPGUI java, someone know where I can download it?
[11:03] <comitt> sadpanda. thanks
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> comitt: they can share the same swap though
[11:03] <comitt> cool
[11:04] <ahhughez> doesnt look like i can revert ubuntu updates, anyone can confirm this?
[11:04] <jrib> ahhughez: not supported, correct.
[11:05] <ahhughez> bugger, I will have to sort out backups and restore... but for now I need to work out WTF is taking so long to boot now
[11:05] <MrBoss> ActionParsnip, do know some xploit scan ? I want to use in *.rar
[11:05] <jrib> ahhughez: what do you want to revert and why?
[11:05] <stephi> i can't install adobe air am getting segmentation fault
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> MrBoss: try asking the channel
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> stephi: Adobe Air doesn't run in Linux now. Adobe ceased developing it
[11:07] <JadedJacob> jrib: I have installed the one in repositories
[11:07] <JadedJacob> i'll leave them as they are.
[11:08] <JadedJacob> anyone installed mp4box in ubuntu before?
[11:09] <stephi> yea is true but i downloaded an earlier version supported by linux
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> !anyone | JadedJacob
[11:09] <stephi> #vhost
[11:10] <stephi> how can i install an air app without it?
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> stephi: its a proprietary suite so there is no other way
[11:11] <BobSaget69> I can't get my ntfs HDD to mount in ubuntu server
[11:11] <JadedJacob> sorry, How do I install mp4box on ubuntu server 11.04
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> !info mp4box
[11:12] <stephi> what should i do then? why is the older version of adobe air not working/
[11:12] <vsync_> BobSaget69 I bet there's a lot of America's Most Funniest Home Videos in there, so it's better to leave unmounted
[11:14] <stephi> somebody help
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> JadedJacob: doesn't seem to be anywhere, I just searched packages.ubuntu.com  you may find a ppa for it
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> stephi: is there no alternative to the apps you install in Adobe Air?
[11:15] <JadedJacob> found a guide on how to compile it from source code.
[11:15] <JadedJacob> http://gpac.wp.institut-telecom.fr/2011/04/20/compiling-gpac-on-ubuntu/
[11:15] <JadedJacob> never compiled anything before :)
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> JadedJacob: nice, make a deb of the binaries and it will integrate with your packages nioce
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> JadedJacob: instead of sudo make install, use checkinstall and you can make a deb :)
[11:17] <stephi> nope no alternative i dnt i don't want to go back to windows
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> stephi: Adobe don't support Linux with Adobe Air, so you may be stuck
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> stephi: what is this app youu so badly need?
[11:18] <stephi> tweetdeck
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> stephi: seriously!? Change OS just for some social network site...really!?
[11:18] <JadedJacob> there are no binaries
[11:18] <stephi> no
[11:18] <vsync_> stephi seriously?
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> stephi: are you high?
[11:18] <stephi> nope
[11:19] <detly> you know in natty, that menu in the top panel with the speech bubble icon, that lets you choose availability for chat and publish a broadcast account update?
[11:19] <vsync_> :D i lol'd my ass off
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> stephi: wow, that's pretty sad
[11:19] <detly> what's that called?
[11:19] <stephi> is just that i thought impossible is nothing hahahaha
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> stephi: theres a tweetdeck style extension for chrome
[11:19] <vsync_> tweetdeck :D:d.D:
[11:19] <stephi> i dnt use chrome i use mozzila
[11:19] <vsync_> let's be social eh, sittin in front of da computerz
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> stephi: http://www.tweetdeck.com/chrome/
[11:20] <hellofoo> gdm is that login screen yeh ?
[11:20] <wolfmitchell> I'm on a root desktop
[11:20] <wolfmitchell> :D
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> stephi: you could use chrome for twitter
[11:20] <wolfmitchell> TweetDeck FTW
[11:20] <oCean> !rootirc | wolfmitchell
[11:20] <wolfmitchell> Why?
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> stephi: http://deerawan.com/deerawan/blogimages/tweetdeck-chrome/tweetdeck-chrome.jpg
[11:21] <TehDGM> because root has full access to everything
[11:21] <wolfmitchell> Hm...
[11:21] <wolfmitchell> Well....
[11:21] <hellofoo> really? who is such a hardcore tweeter ?
[11:21] <TehDGM> its like leaving the doors to your house wide open when you're away
[11:21] <wolfmitchell> .quit
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> wolfmitchell: tyhe fact you asked "why" is should scream at why its a bad idea and why ubuntu is setup how it is...
[11:21] <wolfmitchell> ...
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> hellofoo: I have no idea
[11:21] <vsync_> :DD this channel is so much pure win
[11:22] <hellofoo> but i do, mentally challenged ones. no offence, but yeh
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> stephi: your reason for switching your whole OS just for twitter is, I'll be blunt, pisspoor
[11:22] <hellofoo> how can someone really love facebook, twitter, g+, etc.
[11:22] <vsync_> hellofoo agreed
[11:22] <oCean> let's move back to the support, ok?
[11:22] <TehDGM> the only g+ i love is g++.
[11:22] <vsync_> Anyway stephi I did some extensive googling, I found out a solution, pm me
[11:22] <johnm> hellofoo: ActionParsnip: I'd question your place to really ask that. Social networking might be one persons only use for their device.
[11:23] <wolfmitchell> I sudo su'd out of root
[11:23] <vsync_> why are you such a big fan of the root user anyway?
[11:23] <wolfmitchell> Idk
[11:24] <vsync_> ignorant?
[11:24] <TehDGM> are you actually logged in as root on your gui?
[11:24] <wolfmitchell> Yes Teh
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> wolfmitchell: the X server and apps you run will still be running as root
[11:24] <TehDGM> never do that.
[11:24] <jatt> !root
[11:24] <detly> wolfmitchell: you don't run normal everyday programs as root because any vulnerability might mean damage, destruction or outsider access to your whole machine, not just your user account
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> wolfmitchell: any app you launch from the menus will be running as root
[11:24] <flummy> is there a simple way to navigate from the ubuntu.com frontpage to the current 11.10 beta?
[11:25] <hellofoo> anyway, gdm is the login screen yeh ?
[11:25] <flummy> without using the search field
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> wolfmitchell: so any app accessing the web which gets compromised, as well as malicious java script and flash apps will have FULL system access
[11:25] <TehDGM> how did you sudo su out of root anyway? Wouldnt that just change the user for that specific console?
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> wolfmitchell: and can access and change any file in your OS
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> TehDGM: exactly
[11:25] <TehDGM> basicly causing no effect if you close it again
[11:25] <wolfmitchell> Oh,
[11:25] <wolfmitchell> Hm.
[11:25] <TehDGM> log out completely, reboot or whatever, and never log in as root :P
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> wolfmitchell: also, any malicious code in emails will also run as root and have equal access
[11:26] <vsync_> also, captain obvious is obvious
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> wolfmitchell: this is WHY the account is locked, but people STILL insist, and think, they should log in as root
[11:26] <wolfmitchell> I dont read my email w/ a mail client
[11:26] <detly> wolfmitchell: it's like the difference between giving someone the keys to your gardening shed, and giving them your whole set of keys
[11:26] <detly> I don't have a gardening shed, but you get the idea
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> wolfmitchell: fine but web browsers running as root are not a good idea at all
[11:26] <vsync_> Can we get over with these idiotic metaphors already?
[11:26] <TehDGM> ActionParsnip i do actually change the root password, when doing maintenence on my servers it can be useful
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> wolfmitchell: running irc clients is particularly foolish
[11:27] <detly> oh wait, maybe I do
[11:27] <wolfmitchell> Imma gksudo it and run it on my account
[11:27] <jatt> try this:
[11:27] <jatt> rm -rf /
[11:27] <wolfmitchell> Action: I sudo su'd out of the root account
[11:27] <TehDGM> no dont try that..
[11:27] <vsync_> jatt +1
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> TehDGM: I just disable the account, zero password then :)
[11:27] <wolfmitchell> No jatt
[11:27] <wolfmitchell> Not stupid -_-
[11:27] <vsync_> :(
[11:28] <ryannathans> hmm
[11:28] <ryannathans> PXE tips?
[11:29] <Ibyss> Haha, Ninja Op!
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> wolfmitchell: as you can see, when you boast you are logged in as root, we weren't impressed as its not a smart move
[11:29] <TehDGM> funny thing is, when i'm on windows i'm always administrator. gotta love double standards
[11:29] <wolfmitchell> Brb making breakfast
[11:29] <TehDGM> sudo make me a sandwich
[11:29] <ryannathans> TehDGM: old
[11:29] <Ibyss> TehDGM: I don't use admin when I'm on windows. When I first set mines up, I make the account called "superuser", and then never use it unless I need to install softwares. xD
[11:30] <zetheroo> whats the command in the terminal to see which kernel version you are running?
[11:30] <Ibyss> Now that's using windows Linux style.
[11:30] <Ibyss> zetheroo: uname -,
[11:30] <Ibyss> zetheroo: uname -m
[11:30] <zetheroo> Ibyss: thanks
[11:30] <TehDGM> Ibyss: that's probably the best way. But the way i see it its probably not secure anyway. Just have an easy to restore backup image :P
[11:31] <Ibyss> zetheroo: Actually, uname -h
[11:31] <ryannathans> whenever i boot any distro over PXE it fails without telling me why D:   ubuntu 11.04 does this http://i53.tinypic.com/20ibcb8.jpg
[11:31] <Ibyss> No,
[11:31] <Ibyss> uname -v
[11:31] <Ibyss> -.-
[11:31] <zetheroo> uname -r
[11:31] <zetheroo> ;)
[11:31] <zetheroo> I remembered ...
[11:31] <Ibyss> Lol, yea, I forgot em all.
[11:31] <flummy> hi, is there an easy way to navigate from http://ubuntu.com/ to the current beta image?
[11:32] <TehDGM> ryannathans: don't you need pxelinux or something? It will download the image locally and mount it before booting.
[11:32] <hellofoo> gdm is the login screen yeh ?
[11:32] <ryannathans> TehDGM: yeah i been setting all that stuff up
[11:32] <MonkeyDust> !gdm
[11:33] <ryannathans> TehDGM: it mounts as /cdrom
[11:33] <TehDGM> hm then it shouldnt even know the difference.. thats odd
[11:33] <ryannathans> and it dies, fedora doesn't even tell me why
[11:33] <Ibyss> TehDGM: True, windows is way too much maintainence. Defrag, clean up bloaty fat pointless log files, clean registries. Ugh.
[11:33] <ryannathans> Ibyss: cleaning logs?
[11:33] <ryannathans> meh, i never done that
[11:33] <TehDGM> Ibyss: save time and format every few months :) w7 is much better then xp used to be though
[11:33] <Ibyss> ryannathans: Log files on windows can really become as big as 60GB.
[11:33] <ryannathans> o.0
[11:34] <TehDGM> so do my apache access logs :P
[11:34] <ryannathans> never seen that
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> a lot technological knowledge is requiered if you use win
[11:34] <TehDGM> its not just windows :D
[11:34] <Ibyss> Apache don't count, that's intentional.
[11:34] <TehDGM> still :P
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> Ibyss: on Windows Server, yes Desktop, not so much
[11:34] <ryannathans> TehDGM: what does that image even mean
[11:34] <TehDGM> ye i dont think my desktop logs so much.. it just puts random huge files in app data sometimes
[11:34] <ryannathans> i can't type...
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> Ibyss: check you mcafee logs (if you use mcafee ;))
[11:35] <Ibyss> I use Comodo firewall/antivirus. xD
[11:35] <TehDGM> i dont use any.. no point
[11:35]  * ryannathans uses no AV on windows!
[11:35] <MonkeyDust> what's a virus? :p
[11:35]  * ryannathans doesn't d/l virus
[11:35] <TehDGM> no but seriously.. theres no point. I can easily write a program that no antivirus is gonna detect for weeks
[11:35] <oCean> Move the windows discussion from this channel please
[11:36] <TehDGM> if i can.. others can too :P
[11:36] <TehDGM> hence.. no point :)
[11:36] <ryannathans> TehDGM: what does that image even mean?
[11:36] <MonkeyDust> TehDGM: offtopic: but can you do it for linux?
[11:36] <TehDGM> MonkeyDust: no. hehe
[11:36] <TehDGM> ryannathans: what image?
[11:36] <ryannathans> TehDGM:  the one i sent..
[11:37] <ryannathans> http://i53.tinypic.com/20ibcb8.jpg
[11:37] <TehDGM> i have no idea honestly, i've never seen that before. Last time i pxebooted was with ubuntu 8 and that worked fine for me
[11:37] <TehDGM> using pxelinux
[11:37] <ryannathans> same -.-
[11:37] <Ibyss> ryannathans: Image, is pretty much like the .ISO files you download to create a CD with.      Except you can create an image file to Copy a harddrive, and restore it later.
[11:37] <TehDGM> doesnt it let you fill in a name?
[11:37] <wolfmitchell> I hate winblows
[11:37] <TehDGM> it looks like you can actually type something
[11:37] <ryannathans> TehDGM: I can't type..
[11:38] <TehDGM> haha ok
[11:38] <ryannathans> up arrow swaps to ubuntu logo though'
[11:38] <oCean> wolfmitchell: stop that here
[11:38] <pmnull> /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7/.path /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7/PyQt4/uic/widget-plugins/.noinit /usr/lib/jvm/.java-6-openjdk.jinfo
[11:38] <pmnull>  hi been told this is suspicious ne thoughts pls
[11:38] <wolfmitchell> Mmk
[11:38] <vsync_> Ibyss not to be a smartass really, but your ignorance amuses me
[11:38] <vsync_> ISO _IS_ an image-format
[11:38] <TehDGM> what about ctrl+alt+f2 etc to go in another tty?
[11:38] <Ibyss> vsync_: I know that...
[11:39] <Ibyss> ryannathans: What did you do to get that to display on your screen.
[11:39] <ryannathans> Ibyss: try and boot ubuntu over pxe
[11:39] <pmnull> how can i find what it is from terminal
[11:39] <Ibyss> I never did that before. :S
[11:40] <TehDGM> did you follow this? http://linux-sxs.org/internet_serving/pxeboot.html
[11:40] <Ibyss> pmnull: Find what exactly?
[11:40] <pmnull> /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7/.path /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7/PyQt4/uic/widget-plugins/.noinit /usr/lib/jvm/.java-6-openjdk.jinfo
[11:40] <pmnull>  was told by chkrootkit that this is suspicious is it?
[11:41] <TehDGM> i'd make a witty comment about not using java but i have no idea, sorry
[11:41] <ryannathans> I can't start a tty
[11:41] <ryannathans> nothing happens
[11:41] <pmnull> ok
[11:41] <ryannathans> just a blinking _
[11:41] <TehDGM> interresting
[11:42] <ryannathans> okay wtf it started working
[11:42] <almoxarife> pmnull: looking for rootkits now?
[11:42] <ryannathans> just left it there for a long time
[11:42] <ryannathans> odd
[11:42] <Ibyss> pmnull: That doesn't look bad to me. But java is known to be a powerful language that has capabilities to perform EVIL things to your machine.
[11:42] <Ibyss> pmnull: Check this out: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1666195
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> ryannathans: maybe its just slow
[11:42] <pmnull> if so from the paste i just did how can i remove this from my computer from terminal? just so i know
[11:42] <pmnull> what bash to type
[11:42] <luca> dear friends, can you do videocalls on skype on ubuntu??
[11:43] <pmnull> yes
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> luca: yes
[11:43] <almoxarife> luca: yeap
[11:43] <TehDGM> yar
[11:43] <Ibyss> pmnull: That's pretty much false positive.
[11:43] <luca> ActionParsnip: how can you do?
[11:43] <pmnull> ok ta
[11:43] <luca> I have version 2.2.35
[11:43] <luca> but it doesn't work
[11:43] <TehDGM> just click the webcam icon thing?
[11:43] <TehDGM> does your webcam work at all?
[11:43] <coventry> Running ubuntu natty, when I hit the control key I'm seeing expanding concentric circles emanate from the mouse cursor position, like ripples from a stone dropped in a pond.  What is doing this, and how can I configure it/turn it off?
[11:43] <pmnull> snort didnt log anything when tested my own ip. with nmap..so cant work properly
[11:44] <luca> it works very well on cheese
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> luca: test the cam in skype, does it work. You may need a different command line to run it. Skype is a pain sometimes
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> luca: can you give the output of:  lsb_release -sc; uname -a
[11:44] <luca> which comand?
[11:44] <Ibyss> pmnull: When you get the chance, you should actually google up: /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7/.path /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7/PyQt4/uic/widget-plugins/.noinit /usr/lib/jvm/.java-6-openjdk.jinfo
[11:44] <Ibyss> pmnull: Or search in the ubuntu forum.
[11:45] <almoxarife> luca: here is a nice alternative that works for me everytime, chrome/ium with videochat plugin
[11:45] <TehDGM> the .noinit seems to me just like a configuration thing
[11:45] <luca> ~$ lsb_release -sc; uname -a
[11:45] <luca> natty
[11:45] <luca> Linux luca-Satellite-A200 2.6.38-11-generic #50-Ubuntu SMP Mon Sep 12 21:18:14 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[11:45] <luca> luca@luca-Satellite-A200:~$
[11:45] <pmnull> is it bad?
[11:45] <FloodBot1> luca: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> luca: LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype
[11:45] <pmnull> i dont want to know if its bad news doc
[11:45] <ryannathans> odd, over PXE ubuntu 11.04 is booted. only problem is that eth0 is connected and works fine according to ifconfig, it doesn't show up in the network manager
[11:45] <phlak_user> hiya
[11:46] <Ibyss> pmnull: To really remove files, you use the rm command.       Example: rm /home/pmnull/Pictures/bad-picture-001.jpeg
[11:46] <fluido> coventry,  see if you have something in system -> Preferences -> CompizConfig Settings Manager
[11:46] <pmnull> ah
[11:46] <pmnull> rm
[11:46] <luca> ActionParsnip: what is LD_PRELOAD?
[11:46] <TehDGM> hahaha bad-picture? oooh
[11:46] <pmnull> is there a SIMPLE bash manual
[11:46] <pmnull> for non logical types
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> luca: it loads a lib into RAM, Skype is dumb and can need the command to work.
[11:46] <phlak_user> pmnull: simpler than "rm" ?
[11:46] <almoxarife> pmnull: you also had a webserver on port 80 you had no idea how it got there didn't you?
[11:46] <fluido> I can't remember the exact settings you would need to adjust though
[11:46] <pmnull> well so u can sorta figure out a command line urself
[11:47] <pmnull> no i didnt
[11:47] <fluido> you can also disable special effects altogether
[11:47] <Johnny_Giggles> Is there any easy way of accessing HFS+ systems from my Ubuntu or Mint computer?
[11:47] <pmnull> and i cant find romserver on my computer allegro
[11:47] <pmnull> wateva
[11:47] <Leeds27m> hey all..I'm using ubuntu 11 with gnome 3...is there a general problem with running firefox or is it just me? My history folders never work
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> Leeds27m: gnome3 isnt supported here
[11:48] <fluido> oh wait, natty is 11.04... sorry the path on Unity must be different
[11:48] <pmnull> it summin to do with letting a printer be a server or something. weird
[11:48] <Ibyss> pmnull: It's usually good to google search stuff up before doing anything in terminal.  try reading "the file name" and see if you recognize anything in that file name. Like "Firefox".
[11:48] <Leeds27m> where can i go for help then?
[11:48] <Mikey^> Leeds27m: maybe #gnome
[11:48] <pmnull> or letting users control server content on small devices?!? i cant work it out
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> Leeds27m: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc    please
[11:48] <almoxarife> pmnull: if found an open port 80/tcp and embedded allegro rompage webserver. i have no idea what im talking about but if someone does that would be gr8  <-- yeah you did
[11:48] <TehDGM> Ibyss: i'd recommend cat instead for viewing those files really
[11:48] <pmnull> is the open port 80 a problem
[11:48] <pmnull> if so how to close
[11:49] <almoxarife> pmnull: nope
[11:49] <Leeds27m> natty
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> Leeds27m: #gnome   will probably help, Gnome3 is not compatible with Natty
[11:49] <ryannathans> how can i find what driver eth0 is using
[11:49] <pmnull> ok thanks.
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> ryannathans: sudo lshw -C network
[11:49] <Leeds27m> :-s compatible or supported?
[11:49] <Ibyss> pmnull: Type: man rm                       <--- manual for the rm command.     Or google search on how to use rm (these examples are easier to follow)
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> Leeds27m: neither
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> Leeds27m: if you want Gnome3 so badly, reinstall and install Oneiric
[11:49] <luca> ActionParsnip: I cannot open skype with that command
[11:50] <pmnull> how do i restore natty as having to use gnome after compiz config destroyed command panel and watever commands i type etc cant get i t back
[11:50] <Anon42> Hey
[11:50] <Anon42> How can i add a panel on Ubuntu 11.04? They are locked but i can't find the button to unlock it
[11:50] <pmnull> does ubuntu have a sys restore
[11:50] <coventry> fluido: nope, but I started top and hit the control key a few times, and the process which is activated is called gsd-locate-pointer.  Also, I am running metacity/sawfish, not compiz, though it's a natty install.  Now I just have to figure out what framework gsd-locate-pointer fits into...
[11:50] <nuckchorris> how can I get the number of upgradable packages without actually upgrading?
[11:50] <Ibyss> Leeds27m: You're better off waiting for October 13 (Which is in two days) for the release of Oneiric...
[11:50] <wolfmitchell> Action-I couldn't run unity so I downgraded. And dont run that downgrading message command on Ubottu.
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> luca: care to share the output of do you expect me to guess?
[11:50] <iceroot> nuckchorris: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -s
[11:50] <almoxarife> pmnull: it does, its called backup
[11:50] <ryannathans> ActionParsnip: doesn't show driver
[11:50] <pmnull> ugh
[11:50] <ryannathans> ActionParsnip: only shows all the info
[11:50] <phlak_user> ryannathans: lsmod
[11:51] <pmnull> whats the recovery mode in boot up for then
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> ryannathans: read the output carefully
[11:51] <luca> ActionParsnip: with that command I see the window Skype TM 2.2 (Beta)
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> ryannathans: I can make it easier,   sudo lshw -C network | grep driver
[11:51] <pmnull> and why after so long and apparent package fixes does my nvidia 8200 mg still not work. and synaptics has gone bust
[11:51] <scorinitron> ryp
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> ryannathans: if you READ the output it says the driver module
[11:51] <nuckchorris> iceroot: thanks
[11:52] <pmnull> someone should look at all these things. im an unwitting bug finder..should be paid in fact for my services
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> luca: ok and is skype showing?
[11:52] <ryannathans> ActionParsnip: odd, it's not listed
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> ryannathans: look in the capabilities section of the first command
[11:52] <ryannathans> ActionParsnip: first o i c
[11:52] <gentooxer> pmnull: you mean like the guys giving you support?
[11:52] <ryannathans> it was cut off the screen
[11:52] <luca> ActionParsnip: it doesn't open when I write password
[11:52] <ryannathans> got it ;)
[11:52] <pmnull> hmm
[11:53] <coventry> Looks like gsd-locate-pointer comes from gnome-settings-daemon...  I wonder what configures that...
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> ryannathans: amazing, and you didn't change anything....weird that
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> ryannathans: when a command outputs a lot of stuff, just because it doesn't slap you in the face doesn't mean it's not there
[11:53] <Ibyss> pmnull: I know know one for kernels. (I promise this will not be like WINDOWS. That fixes some CRITICAL system errors. It's not going to UNDO program installs/etc).  In lunux, you do not "Reboot" unless it tells you to (which is very rare).       You do not unreinstall software either.
[11:53] <wolfmitchell> Wth in a non-root shell I got this...
[11:53] <Ibyss> ROFL @ gentooxer.
[11:53] <luca> ActionParsnip: It's the same if I go into application button
[11:54] <wolfmitchell> (<unknown>:2015): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead
[11:54] <frenzy> k
[11:54] <ryannathans> ActionParsnip: o no, i sudo rmmod e1000e and the os stopped responding
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> luca: the command I gave doesn't change the shortcut, its just for that run from the terminal
[11:54] <wolfmitchell> With no commands run
[11:54] <ryannathans> apparently it doens't like that ;D
[11:54] <Ibyss> ryannathans: Oh sorry, that last message was meant to go to pmnull.
[11:54] <luca> ActionParsnip: The problem remains
[11:54] <wolfmitchell> I just opened the shell
[11:55] <luca> I'd like to know if someone can do videocalls with skype on ubuntu
[11:55] <almoxarife> pmnull: what you need to really worry about those udp connections your machine is receiving
[11:55] <pmnull> i got rid of the cloud-init-nonet waiting for 60 bloomin seconds at startup for a network device msg i dont know how i fixed it but did. think i got a web page told me to change grub which i did
[11:55] <Ibyss> pmnull: No worries, you'll get the hang of it. Just lose the window-ish habits and you'll be fine.
[11:55] <luca> Is it possible??
[11:55] <TehDGM> luca yes it's possible
[11:55] <pmnull> what uds connections???
[11:55] <luca> TehDGM: How?
[11:55] <pmnull> where
[11:55] <pmnull> and what are they
[11:55] <almoxarife> pmnull: them, yes
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> luca: YES its possible, you just need some extra config
[11:56] <pmnull> am i under ATTACK!
[11:56] <pmnull> aagh
[11:56] <Ibyss> Under a tack. :P
[11:56] <almoxarife> pmnull: data
[11:56] <Leeds27m> is it easy to upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10? I didn't think 11.10 had been released properly yet?
[11:56] <TehDGM> luca: i believe ActionParsnip was helping you with that
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> Leeds27m: sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[11:56] <pmnull> what does it mean? are mi6 after me???
[11:56] <luca> ActionParsnip: which configuration?
[11:56] <MonkeyDust> Leeds27m: two days from now
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> luca: what is the line in: lsusb   that identifys the device?
[11:56] <Ibyss> pmnull: Is this your first time using Ubuntu by any chance?
[11:56] <luca> TehDGM: Is it sufficient the ubuntu software centre?
[11:56] <qin> pmnull: udp? omg!
[11:57] <pmnull> no seriously
[11:57] <pmnull> is this a wind up
[11:57] <wolfmitchell> Imma gksudo it and run it on my account[A[A[A[A[A[A(<unknown>:2015): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead
[11:57] <pmnull> or is there really a problem
[11:57] <almoxarife> pmnull: yes, seriously, upd connections
[11:57] <pmnull> how do u know i have them
[11:57] <luca> ActionParsnip:  lsusb
[11:57] <luca> Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[11:57] <luca> Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[11:57] <luca> Bus 005 Device 003: ID 046d:c05d Logitech, Inc.
[11:57] <luca> Bus 005 Device 002: ID 045e:0745 Microsoft Corp.
[11:57] <luca> Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[11:57] <FloodBot1> luca: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:57] <almoxarife> pmnull: wireshark :)
[11:57] <pmnull> how do u know i have upd connections
[11:58] <qin> pmnull: Seriously, pull the wire out of box, or type in terminal: w (to feel better)
[11:58] <pmnull> r u spying on me perchance
[11:58] <almoxarife> pmnull: wireshark :)
[11:58] <TehDGM> udp doesnt have connections
[11:58] <ryannathans> course not
[11:58] <ryannathans> it just spams it's packets at something
[11:58] <qin> pmnull: sudo netstat -uep
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> luca: I only wanted the one line, the others are not the webcam are they?
[11:58] <pmnull> wat that do
[11:59] <qin> pmnull: Read: man netstat (please)
[11:59] <pmnull> ok
[11:59] <pmnull> c u lata
[11:59] <pmnull> gotta go to shepherds bush look that up
[11:59] <MonkeyDust> pmnull: the difference betwee udp and tcp is, that tcp is being verified and udp isnt
[11:59] <TehDGM> pmnull: 90% of the time nothing. If somebody is indeed actually sending you random udp packets.. if thats even the case... i doubt any service would do anything with them and they'll just be dropped
[11:59] <luca> http://paste.ubuntu.com/705998/
[11:59] <pmnull> oh ok ta then
[11:59] <TehDGM> and if you're behind a NAT with no ports forward you pretty much have nothing to worry about
[12:00] <TehDGM> not in that area anyway
[12:00] <luca> ActionPasnip: Bus 001 Device 002: ID 04f2:b008 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd USB 2.0 Camera
[12:00] <ryannathans> i'll be back
[12:00] <wolfmitchell> Wth why did irssi send that last message I sent?
[12:00] <wolfmitchell> Glitch?
[12:00] <TehDGM> i didnt see anything?
 Imma gksudo it and run it on my account[A[A[A[A[A[A(<unknown>:2015): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead
[12:01] <TehDGM> is the last thingi  saw
[12:01] <Leeds27m> is the oneiric release available now stable?
[12:03] <dotnb> hello, anyway know how to use the DOT language to draw matrices? i want my nodes to be aligned in a matrix but i don't know how to do so
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> luca: Logitech hate linux btw
[12:03] <The_BROS> Anybody can help me? Today in my firefox BUG-window has appear on my site.
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> luca: http://www.ideasonboard.org/uvc/   may help, seems your webcam uses this
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> Leeds27m: officialy, no
[12:04] <Ibyss> ActionParsnip: My logitech loves linux. I got an awesome mouse for just less than $10 (Fresh, brand new from the box with virtical scroll and middle clicking)
[12:04] <The_BROS> "Rules - disabled: no rulesidtypedelay" is written
[12:04] <almoxarife> ActionParsnip: I have the same setup luca has, no issues with cam
[12:04] <Ibyss> I meant horizontal scrolling.
[12:04] <The_BROS> what does it mean?
[12:04] <TehDGM> i dont have problems with my logitech stuff either on linux
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> almoxarife: can you help him/her out :)
[12:05] <TehDGM> even my old g15 with lcd worked
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> Leeds27m: are you from Leeds, Uk?
[12:05] <almoxarife> ActionParsnip: I have yet to figure out what the issue is
[12:05] <Leeds27m> yes that's right
[12:05] <almoxarife> luca: the cam is built in right? on a laptop?
[12:06] <arvut> hello, why does vlc give "[0x905cb34] signals interface error:  /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4(?)[(nil)]" as error when I run it in a gnome-terminal? it's version 1.1.11 and running under ubuntu 11.04 32-bit
[12:06] <arvut> !ping | arvut
[12:07] <luca> ActionParsnip: with cheese it works perfectly now i'm doing an upgrade of skype
[12:08] <luca> almoxarife: the webcam is on a laptop
[12:08] <Leeds27m> does anyone know if anyone at gyachi is working on the captcha problems?
[12:08] <guampa> somebody using pam-usb ? and found a way to unlock the gnome keyring on login?
[12:12] <stephi> guys something funny happened a guy told me to run a command which i di amd my system is misbehavin
[12:13] <TehDGM> what command was that?
[12:13] <stephi> this is it sudo rm -rf / --no-preserve-root
[12:13] <TehDGM> in the case you're actually being serious... reinstall.
[12:13] <LjL> don't repeat it please
[12:13] <TehDGM> theres no fix.
[12:14] <Ibyss> The command stephi mentioned will destroy your system.
[12:14] <stephi> but the guy said he is helping me install adobe air
[12:14] <almoxarife> stephi: you system is only misbehaving?
[12:15] <Ibyss> stephi: That person is trolling you.
[12:15] <stephi> is doing funny stuff
[12:15] <TehDGM> don't trust that guy... he just wrecked your system
[12:15] <TehDGM> reinstall.
[12:15] <stephi> this is the person vsync_
[12:15] <oCean> !danger
[12:15] <The_BROS> Something wrong at my site, but only at my computer. I see window http://storage4.static.itmages.ru/i/11/1011/h_1318335277_2402831_09a89da632.png What does it mean?
[12:16] <The_BROS> And how I can fix it?
[12:16] <Ibyss> stephi: Before that. Check your home directory. (backup if it's still there)
[12:16] <stephi> is not there
[12:16] <oCean> stephi: please join #ubuntu-ops if you think an other user is causing problems
[12:16] <stephi> ok
[12:17] <TehDGM> also, better talk here when somebody is helping you rather then PM'ing
[12:17] <TehDGM> so that others can see if the support is actually legit
[12:17] <stephi> ok so ave got to reboot or reinstall?
[12:17] <TehDGM> reinstall
[12:17] <TehDGM> your system wont boot when you reboot most likely
[12:18] <luca_> I have a problem with skype
[12:18] <TehDGM> your webcam doesnt work?
[12:18] <luca_> I have the version 2.2.35
[12:18] <luca_> the problem is tha videocalls dosn't work
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> luca_: as I say, skype is a pain.
[12:19] <almoxarife> luca_: skype has a config area, did you look at the settings?
[12:20] <luca_> almoxarife: where is th config area?
[12:20] <almoxarife> luca_:  jesus
[12:21] <Mikey^> luca_: Does you webcam work with cheese?
[12:21] <luca_> yesssss
[12:21] <Singham> luca_ : On the top panel , is there a skype option ? (if skype is started)
[12:22] <Singham> sry skype icon *
[12:22] <almoxarife> luca_: I don't remember anymore, you need to understand the apps you run, find the configuration area of skype, I do remember that 'default' is not the correct setting, you need to be specific about the camera!
[12:23] <almoxarife> luca_: and you should see 'USB CAM' or close to that as an option
[12:23] <xuser1> hi
[12:23] <xuser1> is pobbible to modify a ubuntu image?
[12:23] <almoxarife> does skype have a channel ?
[12:24] <Ibis> xuser1: I think you're looking for this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[12:24] <Singham> !remaster | xuser1
[12:24] <mieciu> uuuuu
[12:24] <mieciu> :D
[12:24] <luca_> almoxarife: i found skype option here i can see the webcam working
[12:25] <almoxarife> luca_: gosh
[12:25] <mieciu> a z polskie ktoś jest?
[12:25] <mieciu> polski*
[12:25] <xuser1> does it works with linuxmint?
[12:25] <MonkeyDust> !pl| mieciu
[12:25] <xuser1> lm is based on ubuntu
[12:25] <xuser1> :P
[12:25] <Ibis> almoxarife: I do not think they have one. (Skype that is)
[12:25] <almoxarife> Ibis: they do
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> xuser1: mint isn't supported or discussed here
[12:26] <xuser1> ok
[12:26] <coventry> Gah, why is the gnome documentation so hard to find.  Anyone know where I can find a description of how to turn off gsd-locate-pointer?
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> !mint
[12:26] <coventry> (I'm on the verge of turning it into a symlink to /bin/true, and just seeing what happens.)
[12:26] <xuser1> but is reccomended modifyng a ubuntu image using this customization kit?
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> xuser1: yes
[12:27] <xuser1> ok
[12:27] <Ibis> almoxarife: Apparently, it's not free. you're welcome to check here: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=skype+support+channel%2C+irc
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> xuser1: its how your Linux Mint is made, as well as other tweaks. The mint community is tiny compared to Ubuntus
[12:28] <xuser1> so can i use this with mint?
[12:28] <catphish_> is mint an ubuntu derivative?
[12:28] <iceroot> !mint
[12:28] <xuser1> and the oficcial site of ucustomization kit says that is not recomended to modify a ubu imaage
[12:29] <almoxarife> I know this because my dear mother just had to install it on her system because all her friends used it, nevermind I had her setup with google chat/video for a year already, so I installed skype so we could test it, skype first of all is buggy and the video is crap, still I set it up and used it long enough to talk to mom once, and I did have to dick around with the settings so that it noticed the cam
[12:29] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:29] <xuser1> :P
[12:29] <Ibis> xuser1: I remember there was a command to install mint things on Ubuntu.        Not a huge difference in between, other than the GUI, software install wizard and package manager.
[12:29] <Ibis> Jsut go there. as iceroot mentioned.
[12:29] <xuser1> ok
[12:30] <catphish_> oh it is an ubuntu derivative, i wonder why they bother
[12:30] <iceroot> catphish_: not supported here
[12:30] <xuser1> i want use it to add more apps on ubuntu and for modify apps list
[12:30] <catphish_> iceroot: you can stop saying that
[12:30] <catphish_> the first 2 times were enough
[12:31] <Ibis> catphish_: Maybe since some things are a bit cooler in Mint?  I used to use mint for years, I came back to ubuntu to get into this Unity thing.
[12:31] <catphish_> Ibis: makes sense, wonder what they added *looks*
[12:32] <almoxarife> mint theme for ubuntu?
[12:33] <almoxarife> I want a stick figures theme for ubuntu, anyone?
[12:33] <Ibis> almoxarife: Look at linuxmint-art.org              For details, visit #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org          As this is not the mint channel.
[12:33] <g0rs> anybody using compiz  here?
[12:33] <Ibis> g0rs: I am.
[12:33] <jpmh> I have a wifi connection that I want to use to connect to the net - I want to configure a router that is plugged into the ethernet port.  How do I tell things like firefox etc to use the connection that I want
[12:33] <g0rs> LBo: animations are not working in compiz. How to enable them? I did disable everything else except animations and configured a few types in the program.
[12:34] <catphish_> g0rs: isn't compiz active by default now in ubuntu?
[12:34] <Ibis> IKR!? Shoot.
[12:34] <almoxarife> Ibis: I think you missed something in the conversation, I don't need or use mint, thnks
[12:34] <g0rs> lbis : animations are not working in compiz. How to enable them? I did disable everything else except animations and configured a few types in the program.
[12:34] <Ibis> catphish_: He/she didn't mentioned what version of Ubuntu though.
[12:34] <g0rs> catphish_: it is  the default display manager
[12:35] <Ibis> catphish_: Might be metacity g0rs doesn't like here. :S
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> catphish_: if you have 3D accelleration setup and install into the Ubuntu session, yes. If you choose Ubuntu Classic then no
[12:36] <catphish_> ah ok
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> jpmh: you can use the route command
[12:36] <luca_> the problem is that i cannot use ve dideocall because i don't have anyone
[12:36] <g0rs> lbis: what do you mean?
[12:37] <almoxarife> luca_: is that a question?
[12:37] <luca_> is there anyone with a skype access?
[12:37] <almoxarife> luca_: wrong channel
[12:37] <almoxarife> :)
[12:38] <ambr> Hi, I've had problems after using pvmove to move my root vg to another pv.  From a rescue situation, 'pvs' shows me the pv, but doesn't know what vg it belongs to, is this part of the issue?
[12:38] <arkiver> i tried to install the package i8kutils which is for dell laptop to control utilities.
[12:38] <MonkeyDust> luca_: wrong channel, type /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:38] <arkiver> it was installed but it gave the following message
[12:38] <luca_> almoxarife: the problem was that i didn't have the right update
[12:38] <arkiver> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[12:38] <arkiver>   i8kutils
[12:38] <arkiver> 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[12:38] <arkiver> Need to get 35.4 kB of archives.
[12:38] <arkiver> After this operation, 184 kB of additional disk space will be used.
[12:38] <FloodBot1> arkiver: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:38] <arkiver> Get:1 http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty/universe i8kutils amd64 1.33 [35.4 kB]
[12:39] <Ibis> arkiver: Pastebin -.-
[12:39] <almoxarife> luca_: was that a question?
[12:39] <almoxarife> luca_: and you are welcome
[12:39] <arkiver> Not starting. Disabled via /etc/default/i8kbuttons
[12:39] <arkiver> i use ubuntu 10.04
[12:40] <luca_> almoxarife: thanks for the suggestion
[12:40] <ambr> is there a way to get access to my logical volumes from my pv inside a rescue environment?
[12:41] <almoxarife> anyone with some practice in remote accessing virtualbox ? into a ubuntu 11.04 from a 11.04?
[12:42] <iceroot> almoxarife: you mean to access the host-system from the vm?
[12:42] <Ibis> almoxarife: Do you mean accessing a remote computer that uses virtualbox?
[12:42] <almoxarife> iceroot: access a vm
[12:43] <almoxarife> Ibis: yes,
[12:43] <iceroot> almoxarife: like any other ubuntu-system. there is no difference
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> almoxarife: set the network interface to be bridged, it will get an IP from your router and will be just like a system on your LAN
[12:44] <almoxarife> ActionParsnip: I did, its on a un-firewalled lan and I see the port listening  but when I try to access via tsclient I get 'acess refused'
[12:44] <arkiver> http://pastebin.com/WjuGpi6u
[12:45] <almoxarife> ActionParsnip: I have a ftp ident servers on the machine and they work fine
[12:45] <arkiver> hello . i had a problem while install i8kutils for dell laptop. i use ubuntu 10.04 on my dell inspiron N5010
[12:46] <arkiver> http://pastebin.com/WjuGpi6u is the pastebin URL
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> almoxarife: install openssh-server , can you access that way?
[12:48] <almoxarife> arkiver: read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8432461&postcount=5
[12:48] <almoxarife> ActionParsnip: I do have ssh and it works fine
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> arkiver: does a reboot help?
[12:48] <Ibis> arkiver: Try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8432461&postcount=5
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> almoxarife: why do you want to use tsclient to the guest?
[12:48] <Ibis> Lol, we googled the same thing.
[12:49] <almoxarife> ActionParsnip: I want to remote view a vm running win7
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> almoxarife: oh I thought you said the guest was natty
[12:49] <almoxarife> ActionParsnip: the vm is on natty
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> almoxarife: I see
[12:50] <a205bw> sorry about my question, but #crunchbang seems dead. crunchbang linux CD doesnt load on my laptop its just black screen with flashing white _, and after awhile just primary OS laods .
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> almoxarife: can you ping the guest IP?
[12:51] <almoxarife> ActionParsnip: I can get into it just fine thru putty, works great
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> a205bw: crunchbang isnt supported here in any way
[12:51] <a205bw> i understand
[12:51] <a205bw> but i need help :(
[12:51] <a205bw> i just hope some people may help me
[12:51] <a205bw> because both ubuntu and crunchbang are debian based
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> a205bw: only canonical releases are supported here
[12:52] <almoxarife> ActionParsnip: yes :) , its my ftp server/home entertainment/vmwin7 machine, I just can't seem to access the vm via rdp
[12:52] <a205bw> Aww, C'mon!
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> a205bw: channel rules
[12:53] <iBoi> Is it possible to install Ubuntu on a MacBook Pro running Mac OS X Lion?
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> iBoi: sure, you can dual boot it
[12:53] <Preeto> iboi yes
[12:53] <arkiver> ActionParsnip, Thanks ! I think it will work after a reboot.
[12:54] <arkiver> Ibis, almoxarife Thanks !
[12:54] <asparatu> iboi they are both i386 systems
[12:54] <a205bw> Ubuntu linux CD doesnt load on my laptop its just black screen with flashing white _, and after awhile just primary OS laods .
[12:54] <a205bw> Same as crinchbang
[12:54] <Ibis> a205bw: Search the problem in crunchbang forum.         Or click here: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=crunchbang%2C+blackscreen.
[12:55] <almoxarife> a205bw: your machine is buggy, the disk is buggy, wrong disk, ????
[12:55] <oCean> a205bw: you just told us you are using crunchbang, there's no support for that here
[12:55] <oCean> Ibis: don't suggest lmgtfy (nor google) here
[12:55] <a205bw> i tried ubuntu
[12:55] <a205bw> just now
[12:55] <a205bw> both dont work
[12:55] <a205bw> exactly same way
[12:55] <a205bw> 9.04
[12:55] <a205bw> cd From canonical
[12:55] <tosse> where can i find the config for the application menu (ubuntu classic desktop)?
[12:56] <tosse> i have made some additions and want to move them from one install to another
[12:56] <a205bw> as for crunchbang, tried USB load, same shit.
[12:56] <oCean> a205bw: control your language here
[12:56] <Ibis> a205bw: You might want to try    USB install. (Hint: Get unetbootin)           Or get an alternative installation CD. (That being, minimal or text based installer).
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> a205bw: jaunty is EOL and not supported either
[12:57] <a205bw> so i have to download newest ubuntu just to see it doesnt load too?
[12:57] <a205bw> will 10.10 do the trick?
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> tosse: /usr/share/applications
[12:57] <a205bw> i think i have cd of 10.10 somewhere
[12:57] <almoxarife> a205bw: 11.04
[12:57] <a205bw> but 10.10 isnt EOL yet.
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> a205bw: yes, install UBUNTU maverick (not some spinoff garbage) and you will be supported here. I suggest you instead install Natty or Oneiric
[12:58] <a205bw> ok
[12:58] <a205bw> ill try
[12:58] <a205bw> brb searching disk
[12:58] <compdoc> Oneiric isnt ready yet
[12:58] <Ibis> a205bw: Don't ask, try it. (And try minimal or Text based cd since it decreases some chances of running into some problems)
[12:59] <tosse> ActionParsnip: not the ones I created myself
[12:59] <almoxarife> ActionParsnip: if I am being kept out of the vm by ubuntu is there a log I can look at?
[12:59] <nightcrow> hiya
[13:00] <nightcrow> Im looking for an application that Ill be able to use to manage all my ubuntu servers on my network
[13:00] <nightcrow> something like puppet maybe?
[13:00] <nightcrow> can anyone reccomend something please
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> almoxarife: look in the security and system logs in the VM
[13:01] <aesptux> nightcrow: Have you tried Webmin?
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> nightcrow: puppet can be used in ubuntu afaik
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> !find puppe
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> yep
[13:02] <jasonlfunk> This morning Ubuntu asked me to do a Partial Distribution upgrade or something, so I let it. It asked me to reboot, so I did. And when it restarted it Openoffice was no longer installed. And when I try to install it, it will not let me. See what happens here: http://pastebin.com/z4PxMDs7
[13:02] <compdoc> jasonlfunk, maybe its because they no longer use openoffice
[13:02] <compdoc> its libreoffice now
[13:02] <jasonlfunk> Compdoc: Hmm...
[13:03] <compdoc> not sure - but try installing that
[13:03] <jasonlfunk> seems to be working
[13:03] <jasonlfunk> thanks
[13:04] <nightcrow> ActionParsnip, do you know anything else better than puppet - im having a hard time with it
[13:04] <BluesKaj> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/index.html  , nightcrow
[13:04] <nightcrow> 8.04?
[13:04] <nightcrow> :)
[13:04] <nightcrow> im on 10.04 or 11.04 :)
[13:04] <Ibis> Just have a look nightcrow, it might be worth a look.
[13:05] <nightcrow> checking... thank you
[13:05] <nightcrow> Im not sure what im looking for here
[13:05] <iBoi> Is Mark Shuttleworth present in #ubuntu ?
[13:05] <iBoi> Is he even active with Ubuntu?
[13:06] <GirlyGirl> iBoi: If he is you will see the nick sabdfl online
[13:06] <BluesKaj> Ibis, , no he's right , that damn google dropped it's linux servers and now I'm finding it really pretty useless at times
[13:06] <compdoc> <- the anti-Mark Shuttleworth
[13:06] <Fredd> nightcrow, newer version is https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/C/index.html
[13:07] <a205bw> http://i.imgur.com/zs993.jpg
[13:07] <a205bw> Thats output^
[13:07] <nightcrow> Fredd: Im not sure what I mean to be looking for in this guide.. can you please advise
[13:07] <BluesKaj> yeah Fredd , that ones ony 18mos old :)
[13:07] <nightcrow> puppet?
[13:08] <nightcrow> is there an alternative to puppet which may be better?
[13:09] <a205bw> almoxarife : ActionParsnip : Ibis : oCean : http://i.imgur.com/zs993.jpg
[13:09] <Atharva> Hi GirlyGirl ...!
[13:09] <zoulou> hi all
[13:10] <Ibis> Wonderful. -.-