[12:00] <BrickMaker> lightbright, i'm on Ubuntu right now ;)
[12:00] <hondje> I'd ask the logs
[12:00] <lightbright> BrickMaker: try them both then
[12:00] <lightbright> hondje: what logs would I look at?
[12:00] <BrickMaker> lightbright, yeah! thats good idea!
[12:00] <lightbright> BrickMaker: have fun :)
[12:01] <lightbright> BrickMaker: after all they are both free to try ;)
[12:01] <BrickMaker> :>
[12:01] <Zorlon> lightbright: Read the Fine Manual on IRC usage and you will have your answer..it is not a situation where it goes from channel to channel it is more a societal situation regarding IRC usage
[12:01] <edgarrod> How can I connect a Winmodem with ubuntu??
[12:01] <BrickMaker> lightbright, yeah you are right ;)
[12:01] <|PecK|> does anyone know how many employees work on ubuntu at canonical?
[12:01] <lightbright> Zorlon: who wrote this "Fine Manual on IRC"? and are you claiming that every channel founder uses this as a golden rule?>
[12:01] <keherman> hos do i get the graphical bootup ?
[12:02] <BrickMaker> lightbright, i remeber the days with red hat but you know what its Ubuntu time ;)
[12:02] <lightbright> Zorlon: how come I have seen you ask questions before the 10-20mins period?
[12:02] <lightbright> BrickMaker: :)
[12:02] <ifwui45> ok so I have my wireless driver installed, ndiswrapper says driver installed. Now what do I do to get the card to work?
[12:03] <ompaul> edgarrod, have a look http://www.linmodems.org/
[12:03] <lightbright> ifwui45: plug and pray
[12:03] <ifwui45> doesnt work
[12:04] <lightbright> ifwui45: then you didnt pray hard enough
[12:04] <trappist> lightbright: you're not being terribly helpful
[12:04] <lightbright> trappist: and you are?
[12:04] <MrRio> how does macosx start so quickly?
[12:04] <MrRio> id like to find out, then put a bounty out to achieve the same effect in ubuntu ;)
[12:05] <ifwui45> comon I really need help
[12:05] <lightbright> MrRio: it comes down to the coders
[12:05] <cratel1> anybody have 3d accel working with VIA graphics?
[12:05] <lightbright> ifwui45: ask trappist , he claims to have the solutions
[12:05] <keherman> How do I install the Boot Up Ubuntu Splash ?
[12:05] <BrickMaker> ompaul, whats there in linmodems.org?
[12:05] <bimberi> !usplash
[12:05] <ubotu> usplash is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[12:05] <Zorlon> lightbright: The Book of IRC Alex Charalab would be a real good start...secondly no I did not state that every channel follows this rule rather that it is considered proper etiquette to do so...a 10 second google search would do a lot for you too..but all you want to do is be the one who is right
[12:05] <MrRio> lightbright, they must be geniuses, i wonder if all the services are started before you login, or if thats done in the background while ur typing ur bits in
[12:05] <lightbright> MrRio: the coders are in a league of their own
[12:06] <lightbright> Zorlon: how come I have seen you ask questions before the 10-20mins period?
[12:06] <trappist> MrRio: it can be done.  looking into the runit-run package would be a very good start.
[12:06] <ompaul> BrickMaker, how to get windows modems work with linux boxen
[12:06] <lightbright> Zorlon: dont you apply that which you preach?
[12:06] <trappist> MrRio: runit-run starts services concurrently rather than one after the other, and can speed up your startup time significantly
[12:06] <cratel1> when I use make gconfig what do I save the config file name as so it is used in the make process for recompiling the kernel?
[12:06] <lightbright> MrRio: they are indeed coding geniuses!  thats whyt they work for Apple :)  not just any coder will get a job there
[12:06] <trappist> cratel1: .config
[12:07] <lightbright> MrRio: the coders for macosx are in a league of their own
[12:07] <ifwui45> hes not responding
[12:07] <jepler> Is there a better place than here to ask questions about rebuilding ubuntu's kernel?  Will have any better luck on some mailing list?
[12:07] <|PecK|> is there a cool gui ftp server ?
[12:07] <lightbright> MrRio: quality coding
[12:07] <MrRio> dreamily*
[12:07] <kingkevbo> Hello everybody, I have a problem w/ an AMD64 install
[12:07] <mwe> |PecK|: I don't think so. maybe you can find a gui config tool for one
[12:07] <trappist> MrRio: prelinking your binaries can also help.  so can eliminating unnecessary services.  and using a lighter window manager.  the list goes on.
[12:08] <Zorlon> lightbright: Give me specifics..the only thing I asked about today was a journaling program for Ubuntu...it doesn't mean you can't ask more than one question for 10 or 20 minutes..just the same question repeatedly...the conversation is pointless
[12:08] <kingkevbo> The machine keeps spontaneously shutting down
[12:08] <ashyg> how do i get my USB networking device working during ubuntu install?
[12:08] <lightbright> Zorlon: thats just your personal opinion, and not agreed upon by every single person that comes here
[12:08] <ashyg> also how do i make the install use LILO rather than GRUB because GRUB does not work
[12:08] <BrickMaker> ompaul, Conexant modem drivers are not free you know
[12:08] <trappist> kingkevbo: at least 90% of the time that's a heat issue
[12:09] <|PecK|> mwe: oh. and is there a simple graphical way to access another linux computer?
[12:09] <kingkevbo> Well, I don't think it's a heat issue
[12:09] <MrRio> |PecK|: Terminal Server Client
[12:09] <ashyg> How do I fix an Error 15 - File Not Found - error in GRUB?
[12:09] <robertj> kingkevbo: power then?
[12:09] <lightbright> MrRio: ever tried macosx?
[12:09] <ifwui45> trappist: can u help me install a wireless card? I got the drivers VIA ndiswrapper and it doesnt detect the card..
[12:09] <ompaul> BrickMaker, I was asked for windows modem help - personally I would prefer if anyone who had a modem had a serial port one - though I don't know where that would leave PPC but anyway that is for another day
[12:09] <ashyg> please, i am very rushed i need my computer back up and running
[12:09] <kingkevbo> robertj: maybe so
[12:09] <trappist> MrRio: I've never been motivated to put the time into it myself, but I've seen 8 seconds from poweron to desktop in linux
[12:09] <ashyg> there seems to be a fundamental flaw either in GRUB or in ubuntu
[12:09] <lightbright> !you
[12:09] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[12:09] <|PecK|> MrRio: does it allow me to transfer files? don't think so...
[12:10] <ashyg> that makes my third boot destroy GRUB
[12:10] <ashyg> and i get error 15 whenever i boot
[12:10] <trappist> ifwui45: I've never used ndiswrapper
[12:10] <lightbright> ubuntu: hello
[12:10] <ashyg> as i have said, i am not sure if it is an issue with ubuntu or with grub
[12:10] <Zorlon> lightbright: I never inferred otherwise....
[12:10] <lightbright> Zorlon: good :)
[12:10] <cyphase> Is there a Firefox extension that lets you use the RSS feature to add feeds to external programs?
[12:10] <ashyg> but i really need it fixed, can anyone help?
[12:10] <MrRio> |PecK|: transfer files? nfs? samba? ftp?
[12:10] <kingkevbo> Although I said it's spontaneous, it isn't random
[12:10] <lightbright> Zorlon: we have an understanding then :)
[12:10] <ifwui45> trappist: well how should I install the card?
[12:10] <MrRio> trappist: 8 seconds, wow
[12:10] <trappist> ifwui45: I have no idea
[12:11] <mwe> |PecK|: just use scp. it's simple
[12:11] <ashyg> can anyone help with my GRUB issues?
[12:11] <MrRio> lightbright: yeah, been using an intel mac quite a bit recently
[12:11] <|PecK|> mwe: gonna check it out, thx
[12:11] <lightbright> Zorlon: you preach a more accurate sermon with your life than you do with your lips :) people believe more what you DO, than what you SAY! never forget that
[12:11] <DerangedGoblin> Hello.
[12:11] <MrRio> lightbright, having a play writing cocoa apps with mono
[12:11] <lightbright> MrRio: cool :)
[12:11] <lightbright> MrRio: sounds good
[12:11] <ashyg> please, guys :(
[12:11] <ompaul> ashyg, here is a url it contains the grub manual http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.txt
[12:12] <ashyg> ompaul i have looked through it, it does not have any info on why this error would occur after the third boot
[12:12] <kingkevbo> When I recover from the first time the install sets up, the machine won't go past the "setting up packages" stage
[12:12] <ashyg> therefore i think it's an issue with ubuntu
[12:12] <lightbright> ashyg: did you ask trappist ?
[12:12] <LaMatita> hi! ubuntu 5.10 support connection with nokia phones for gprs/umts?
[12:12] <ompaul> ashyg, does it boot after the 4th?
[12:12] <ashyg> no, who is trappist
[12:12] <mlehrer> i have an RTFM question here: what is the "proper" way to build a kernel for ubuntu?  i want to take the .config used for the standard kernel build and add a couple of drivers
[12:12] <ashyg> ompaul: no, GRUB gives error 15
[12:12] <lightbright> ashyg: asjk trappist , i believe he said he has a solution
[12:12] <trappist> ashyg: error 15 is file not found.  that usually means it can't find the kernel.
[12:12] <ashyg> ompaul: and gives me no terminal in which to issue commands
[12:13] <DerangedGoblin> I'm trying to install my linksys network card and I am having a problem. Where do I find the "Kernel source location"?
[12:13] <Zorlon> lightbright: You don't even know me or what I have or have not done..that is a really stupid thing to say..so pidof15
[12:13] <kingkevbo> I've tested the PS on my machine, and it is good
[12:13] <ompaul> ashyg, it is like the h/d may be doing bad stuff like dying
[12:13] <quad__> I am now connected via VPN to another domain. How can I log onto that system??
[12:13] <lightbright> Zorlon: once again, thats just your personal opinion, and not agreed upon by every single person that comes here
[12:13] <Zorlon> you understand that little boy for AU
[12:13] <quad__> Like I was in front of the computers of that system?
[12:13] <ashyg> i think it's an issue with the linux kernel, it's fairly buggy with PCI IDE controllers
[12:13] <ompaul> ashyg, how old is the disk?
[12:13] <ashyg> it's new
[12:13] <cr1mson> how do i execute a file on boot up?
[12:13] <ashyg> the drive is installed on a PCI IDE disk
[12:14] <ashyg> Now I am having issues, Linux is very buggy in the kernel...
[12:14] <mwe> mlehrer: get the sources for your running kernel and go ahead
[12:14] <bleaked> is there a good printer guide i could refer my ubuntu using friend to?
[12:14] <ompaul> ashyg, sorry, are you saying you got it to boot off an external drive
[12:14] <ashyg> not external
[12:14] <trappist> ashyg: oh!  grub probably has the ide devices ordered wrong
[12:14] <ashyg> PCI IDE
[12:14] <lightbright> Zorlon: your mother didnt call me little boy
[12:14] <ashyg> trappist: how do i fix that? is there a terminal for grub i can open when it says error 15?
[12:14] <kingkevbo> Are there any known issues w/ AMD64 machines shutting down like that?
[12:14] <ashyg> right now i've just been reinstalling ubuntu every third boot
[12:15] <trappist> ashyg: what pci ide card is it?
[12:15] <ashyg> maxtor
[12:15] <ashyg> they only make one
[12:15] <ashyg> and the latest kernel versions don't appear to support it
[12:15] <ashyg> which is messed up
[12:16] <ashyg> so i am in a major quandary: The kernel that comes with Breezy does not support my ethernet adaptor
[12:16] <ashyg> The more updated kernel does
[12:16] <ashyg> HOWEVER my hard drive does not work with the most recent kernel
[12:16] <lightbright> ashyg: what updated kernel works?
[12:16] <|PecK|> mwe: do you think I can manage with webmin?
[12:16] <ashyg> 2.6.13 is the first one with support for my NIC i believe
[12:16] <WarriorSlayer> hey guys
[12:16] <WarriorSlayer> i'm having some problems
[12:16] <WarriorSlayer> with my audio card
[12:16] <WarriorSlayer> the module is
[12:17] <lightbright> ashyg: whats the latest kernel that ubunbtu uses?
[12:17] <WarriorSlayer> snd-au8830
[12:17] <cafuego> !enter
[12:17] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[12:17] <ashyg> i think 2.6.8
[12:17] <mwe> |PecK|: I'd just use scp. it's secure and easy to use and configure
[12:17] <ashyg> don't quote me on that though, lightbright
[12:17] <WarriorSlayer> and it don't run when ubuntu starts
[12:17] <lightbright> ashyg: hmm let me look
[12:17] <Itz> How can i turn off some unintresting stuff in the startup? for etc fetchmail, synching clock, pcmica and raid?
[12:17] <|PecK|> mwe: thx
[12:17] <WarriorSlayer> ubotu,  srry
[12:17] <ubotu> WarriorSlayer: Not a clue
[12:17] <cafuego> ashyg: 2.6.12 actually.
[12:17] <lightbright> ashyg: i believe im using the latest, and mine says: 2.6.12-10-686
[12:17] <mwe> |PecK|: you'll have to at least scim the manual page though. sorry
[12:17] <ashyg> okay
[12:17] <cafuego> Dapper has 2.6.15
[12:17] <decaf> Itz: you may install sysv-rc-conf
[12:17] <WarriorSlayer> ubotu, i've tried to load the module using -v in modprobe and it loaded
[12:17] <ubotu> WarriorSlayer: What?
[12:17] <lightbright> ashyg: which kernel is yours now?
[12:18] <keherman> Can someone tell me why my linux-image is being held back in apt?
[12:18] <lightbright> cafuego: whats Dapper?
[12:18] <ashyg> lightbright: 2.6.12 i guess
[12:18] <WarriorSlayer> but i don't know why the sound is still disable and alsamixer even starts
[12:18] <keherman> i want to upgrade it?
[12:18] <cafuego> !dapper
[12:18] <ubotu> dapper is, like, The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself.
[12:18] <Itz> decaf,  ok ill have a look at that
[12:18] <decaf> Itz: but I dont recommend to play with init scripts
[12:18] <ashyg> because i have the version of ubuntu i downloaded from the site
[12:18] <lightbright> ashyg: can you type "uname -a"
[12:18] <lightbright> ashyg: and tell me what it says
[12:18] <ompaul> ashyg, does it work with that >> linux: (Generic complete Linux kernel.), section restricted/base, is optional. Version: <IP_ADDRESS> (dapper),
[12:18] <ashyg> no, i can't, lightbright - GRUB is failing
[12:18] <lightbright> ashyg: :( ok
[12:18] <ashyg> i am reinstalling ubuntu right now
[12:18] <bleaked> is there a good printer guide one could refer to.  (for setting up a standard home inkjet printer)
[12:18] <lightbright> ashyg: ok im glad you have patience
[12:18] <bimberi> keherman: using "dist-upgrade" or just "upgrade"
[12:18] <keherman> does linux-image stay back if you leave it in 386 arch?
[12:18] <Itz> decaf, why? i have to make some trail and error to learn some ;)
[12:18] <bimberi> ?
[12:18] <owner> have any of you guys tried nubuntu
[12:19] <keherman> bimberi, i tried plain upgrade
[12:19] <lightbright> ashyg: installing Ubuntu is helping you grow in patience :)  its a test ;)
[12:19] <ashyg> anyways i recompiled my kernel to the latest version
[12:19] <lightbright> bimberi:  hello my friend :)))
[12:19] <ashyg> then my hard drive would be not detected
[12:19] <ashyg> also, the dapper install cd does not detect my hard drive
[12:19] <ashyg> while the breezy install cd does
[12:19] <ashyg> which leads me to believe that the latest kernel is broken with my PCI adaptor
[12:20] <cafuego> ashyg: Dapper is *beta* so that ought not be surprising.
[12:20] <zenwhen> How would one reset the gnome-panel background in the gnconf editor?
[12:20] <lightbright> bimberi: some programs, eg firefox etc all of a sudden sometimes close on their own.  and twice my system has rebooted on its own!  in your opinion, RAM error or Ubuntu error?
[12:20] <keherman> bimberi, why doesn't "upgrade" install the latest kernel images, but "dist-upgrade" does?
[12:20] <keherman> it seems that this is not a "distribution" change
[12:20] <lightbright> cafuego: I value your opinion too, may I have your idea?
[12:20] <cafuego> keherman: Additional depends. 'upgrade' would never pull those in.
[12:20] <bimberi> keherman: dist-upgrade installs additional dependencies (upgrade) won't
[12:21] <bimberi> *(upgrade won't)
[12:21] <ashyg> So what would you suggest my course of action be to fix my GRUB error 15 after the third boot?
[12:21] <bimberi> hi lightbright :)
[12:21] <cafuego> lightbright: heat, ram.. check your cpu fna, run a memtest.
[12:21] <keherman> bimberi, ahh ok -- thanks dudes :-)  is there any major danger?
[12:21] <lightbright> cafuego: ok
[12:21] <lightbright> bimberi: :)
[12:21] <bimberi> keherman: no
[12:21] <keherman> cafuego, any problems going from 2.6.12-9 to 2.6.12-10 ?
[12:21] <keherman> k
[12:21] <ashyg> Seriously, Ubuntu ran well on my old desktop but this one keeps messing up! I've not been able to get any of these things working: Networking card, second monitor, sound card
[12:21] <[xxx] G-Stringz> hola
[12:21] <BrickMaker> can i install Java Web(fire fox) from synaptics
[12:21] <cafuego> keherman: I've not run any of those for months, no idea :-)
[12:21] <lightbright> keherman: define danger ;)
[12:22] <bimberi> keherman: that upgrade seemed to go well for me - ymmv
[12:22] <[xxx] G-Stringz> im so lost help me
[12:22] <keherman> bimberi, so should i just use "dist-upgrade" all the time?
[12:22] <lightbright> [xxx] G-Stringz: I would be lost too with a nick like yours
[12:22] <keherman> lightbright, "dead system" :-)
[12:22] <bimberi> keherman: i do :)
[12:22] <[xxx] G-Stringz> your soo mean
[12:22] <lightbright> keherman: ah ok :)
[12:22] <[xxx] G-Stringz> grrrrr I shall bite you
[12:22] <mwe> [xxx] G-Stringz: just ask your question ...
[12:23] <lightbright> mwe: hello good to see you again
[12:23] <keherman> so i guess there is not much "danger" in using dist-upgrade rather than plain upgrade...cool
[12:23] <[xxx] G-Stringz> is this shit for real?
[12:23] <mwe> lightbright: hi
[12:23] <igge> i think i have seen some screenshots of ubuntu with shadows for the windows..
[12:23] <Itz> BrickMaker, just installed java from synaptic.. worked good for me.
[12:23] <igge> how can i have this?
[12:23] <lightbright> keherman: I been using dist-upgrade for months
[12:23] <[xxx] G-Stringz> holy shite this is weird
[12:23] <ashyg> how do i install lilo to the MBR of /dev/hda
[12:23] <cafuego> [xxx] G-Stringz: Mind your lnaguage.
[12:23] <ashyg> will typing /dev/hda in the lilo installation work or format all of /dev/hda?
[12:23] <BrickMaker> Itz, what Keyword for java web(fire fox)?
[12:24] <[xxx] G-Stringz> I said shite
[12:24] <[xxx] G-Stringz> not sh**
[12:24] <ashyg> or do i have to type /dev/hda/mbr or something
[12:24] <keherman> i did a server install, then later added ubuntu-desktop -- but now I have no boot splash!
[12:24] <cafuego> [xxx] G-Stringz: Did you actually have a question?
[12:24] <kingkevbo> So where should I look for problems w/ AMD64 shutdowns?
[12:24] <lusus> i installed blackbox window manager.. how do i activate it?
[12:24] <keherman> or seems there was USB -71 error in the old kernel...
[12:24] <kingkevbo> I'm new to the AMD64 arch
[12:25] <ompaul> ashyg,  totally live thinking, would a live CD and persistant data be of any use
[12:25] <Itz> BrickMaker, didnt specify ff. just java... name and ........
[12:25] <[xxx] G-Stringz> yah what the heck is this all about Im guessing this place is not for meeeeeeee
[12:25] <ashyg> What is the proper method to install the LILO boot loader on the MBR of /dev/hda? I am at the install screen right now, please advise
[12:25] <[xxx] G-Stringz> grrrrrr
[12:25] <ashyg> ompaul: if there's a live cd with the latest kernel out there
[12:25] <ashyg> as in 2.6.15
[12:25] <kingkevbo> I've done a Google and can't seem to find anything that fits my problem
[12:25] <ompaul> ashyg, the last flight of dapper might be the business there
[12:25] <ompaul> ashyg, not the daily
[12:25] <ashyg> dapper doesn't detect my hard drive :P
[12:26] <ashyg> oh i used the daily... are there stable builds of dapper?
[12:26] <ashyg> anyways please advise on this issue as that's where i am and i want to get booted:
[12:26] <ashyg> What is the proper method to install the LILO boot loader on the MBR of /dev/hda? I am at the install screen right now, please advise
[12:26] <cafuego> ashyg: Well, "stable".
[12:26] <mlehrer> is anyone here familiar with how to build a kernel on ubuntu
[12:26] <[xxx] G-Stringz> ok I did that
[12:26] <goog> where can i get libdvdcss?
[12:26] <ompaul> ashyg, no not stable - flights
[12:26] <azellman> i'm new to ubuntu, and all linux for that matter, i have an ATI radeon 7000 and can't change my screen resolution from 640x480
[12:26] <BrickMaker> Itz, well its ok, but you know what if i specify java there i will get in result bunches of searchs that has name "java"
[12:26] <ompaul> ashyg, let me find one for ya
[12:27] <cafuego> !dvdcss
[12:27] <ubotu> it has been said that dvdcss is install 'libdvdread3' and then run 'sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh'
[12:27] <Itz> yep. and use java common something
[12:27] <Itz> BrickMaker,
[12:27] <ashyg> thanks ompaul... you know how to install lilo from the ubuntu disc?
[12:27] <mwe> ashyg: I haven't used for quite a few years but don't you just run lilo as root if the config file is correct?
[12:27] <ashyg> i can't run anything as root mwe
[12:27] <cafuego> ashyg: boot the cd, choose 'rescue' mode.
[12:27] <ashyg> i am installing
[12:27] <mwe> ashyg: oh the installer ...
[12:27] <ashyg> yes
[12:27] <ashyg> i selected install lilo
[12:27] <Vespoli> hullo hullo
[12:27] <ashyg> and it wants a path
[12:28] <ashyg> do i supply /dev/hda/mbr or something?
[12:28] <azellman> i'm new to ubuntu, and all linux for that matter, i have an ATI radeon 7000 and can't change my screen resolution from 640x480
[12:28] <mwe> ashyg: I think just /dev/hda but don't count on it
[12:28] <Vespoli> soap :o
[12:28] <ashyg> mwe wouldn't that format /dev/hda entirely?
[12:28] <ashyg> rather than the mbr
[12:28] <Vespoli> azellman, you can't change the screen ... what does that mean ? :)
[12:28] <Itz> BrickMaker, java-common ubuntu 0,23    "base of alla java packages"
[12:28] <Vespoli> resolution is unchangeable?
[12:28] <pedro_> hola
[12:28] <azellman> yeah
[12:28] <mwe> ashyg: don't think so for the boot loader. wait until someone knows for sure though
[12:29] <BrickMaker> ok thx!
[12:29] <Vespoli> what is it stuck at?
[12:29] <azellman> only 640x480 is available in the pulldown
[12:29] <Vespoli> try this--
[12:29] <ompaul> ashyg, sudo apt-get install lilo should create a basic config file then any alteration to lilo you need to run /sbin/lilo against the config file if memory serves me it has been two or three years since I used lilo
[12:29] <Vespoli> Ctrl-Alt-+
[12:29] <ompaul> ashyg, or it feels like that
[12:29] <ashyg> ompaul: i can't run that
[12:29] <ashyg> i am in the installer
[12:29] <ashyg> not in linux
[12:29] <azellman> no luck
[12:29] <Vespoli> what happened?
[12:29] <azellman> nothing
[12:29] <Vespoli> hmm
[12:29] <ompaul> ashyg, I thought you were doing a full install and then that -
[12:30] <cafuego> azellman: Open a terminal, run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'.
[12:30] <ifwui45> hey guys how do i move to the desktop in the terminal?
[12:30] <lightbright> azellman: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:30] <Vespoli> :)
[12:30] <lusus> can i use blackbox with gnome?
[12:30] <cafuego> azellman: Run through the steps, restart X.
[12:30] <ashyg> okay i will let the installer use grub then
[12:30] <Vespoli> lusus, 2 different windows managers last time I checked :-/
[12:30] <azellman> thanks guys
[12:30] <dampjam> How do I make it so that dhclient does not update /etc/resolv.conf when it renews the ip address?
[12:30] <lightbright> azellman: read the website I gave you
[12:30] <ifwui45> hey guys how do i move to the desktop in the terminal?
[12:30] <lightbright> azellman: welcome :)
[12:30] <mwe> ashyg: I feel asured choosing /dev/hda wont format the disk. but don't kill me if it does :|
[12:30] <cafuego> dampjam: sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf
[12:31] <ArthurB> Hi, does anyone has stunnel4 working ?
[12:31] <dampjam> cafuego: the right way - like with dhclient
[12:31] <lusus> Vespoli: I thought Gnome was the environment and Blackbox would be the manager?
[12:31] <ashyg> lusus: no
[12:31] <ifwui45> how do i move to the desktop in the terminal?
[12:31] <cafuego> dampjam: Check the dhcp client config file
[12:31] <ashyg> gnome is a WM as well
[12:31] <lightbright> ifwui45: read this
[12:31] <lusus> ashyg: ahh ok.
[12:31] <ashyg> okay
[12:31] <Vespoli> both are WM's
[12:31] <ashyg> i ran full install of ubuntu
[12:31] <lightbright> ifwui45: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[12:31] <ashyg> booted up
[12:31] <ashyg> and GRUB error 15
[12:31] <ashyg> how do i fix grub error 15
[12:32] <ashyg> i really need my computer bootable guys
[12:32] <ashyg> like quick
[12:32] <ashyg> because i have an assigment on my computer i need to e-mail in
[12:32] <ashyg> due tonight
[12:32] <ompaul> ashyg, it is saying it wants you to tell it where the kernel lives
[12:32] <dampjam> ashyg: knoppix is your friend
[12:32] <crimsun> you can use a live cd to access your computer
[12:32] <lightbright> dampjam: good solution
[12:33] <ompaul> dampjam, that kernel would not be high enough for him
[12:33] <ashyg> ompaul: how do i get to a prompt
[12:33] <lightbright> ashyg: use a liveCD to send your assigmment etc
[12:33] <ompaul> escape may throw one
[12:33] <ashyg> i don't have a livecd nor the capacity to create one
[12:33] <keherman> Anyone get Blackboc installed and working with GDM?  I'm having dpkg errors installing it...
[12:33] <keherman> *blackbox
[12:33] <ashyg> i cannot download files
[12:33] <lightbright> ashyg: use your friends computer
[12:33] <mwe> lusus: don't know about gnome. but at least for kde kde is the desktop invironment and kwm is the windows manager. at least in theory you should be able to use another window manager with kde
[12:33] <ashyg> lightbright: no one here can download
[12:33] <ashyg> lightbright: college network
[12:34] <ompaul> ashyg, how much ram have you got?
[12:34] <dampjam> lightbright: hahahhaa - you think people on the freenode network have friends?
[12:34] <ashyg> 2 gigs
[12:34] <dampjam> ashyg: the live cd is ~650 mb
[12:34] <ashyg> dampjam: i cannot download a file that large
[12:34] <ashyg> it would take over a day
[12:34] <joey222> installation complete, time to install jave :)
[12:34] <ashyg> i don't have the time for it
[12:35] <ompaul> ashyg, net cafe?
[12:35] <ashyg> i need the computer running tonight
[12:35] <mwe> lightbright: I'm pretty good friends with my dog, but it doesn't own a computer :)
[12:35] <ifwui45> ok I need to be in the ROOT user and goto the desktop of Austin in the terminal.... how do I do that
[12:35] <ashyg> ompaul: i live in the ghetto i don't think there are any hehe
[12:35] <slavik> ifwui45: you can't su to root afaik
[12:35] <gamma> hey is there a huge difference between ubuntu's compiled packages and gentoo's source based stuff? i'm on gentoo right now, but i'm very very VERY sick of compiling crap
[12:35] <mwe> slavik: you can
[12:35] <mwe> slavik: sudo su root
[12:35] <gnudreamer> ok how do i figure out if my tv card is being controled by the bttv module?
[12:35] <slavik> mwe: isn't it 'locked'?
[12:35] <lightbright> mwe: :)
[12:35] <slavik> hmm
[12:36] <lightbright> dampjam: lol :)
[12:36] <mwe> slavik: it doesn't have a password
[12:36] <|PecK|> how can I know my ip? don't know the command...
[12:36] <Seveas> gamma, Ubuntu packages work :)
[12:36] <mwe> slavik: lots of processes run as root
[12:36] <ompaul> ashyg, sometimes there is great freedom in having no choice, and I don't see you as having a choice
[12:36] <slavik> I see ... that's useful to know ...
[12:36] <dutch> |Peck| : ifconfig
[12:36] <ifwui45> so I want to copy something from the desktop of someone else to the Root folder...
[12:36] <mwe> slavik: and sudo su root will make you become root
[12:36] <gamma> Seveas: oho there's something i can't say about g2 ;)
[12:36] <slavik> mwe: I thought that the root login was locked
[12:36] <ashyg> wait ompaul so what do i do
[12:36] <ifwui45> how do I do that?
[12:36] <jclinton> anyone know how to connect to another CUPS server other than localhost:631??? I need to do that so i can get my network printers....
[12:36] <ompaul> ashyg, go somewhere you can download it, bring back a live CD
[12:36] <mwe> slavik: only locked in the sense it doesn't have a password set
[12:37] <slavik> ahh, I see.
[12:37] <ifwui45> so I want to copy something from the desktop of someone else to the Root folder...
[12:37] <ifwui45> how do I do that?
[12:37] <ompaul> ashyg, 10 miles to should get you to a net cafe
[12:37] <slavik> mwe: is it done that way as a security measure?
[12:37] <frazmanw> is there a way to upgrade from gimpprint to gutenprint, so I can use the new drivers for new printers?
[12:37] <gnudreamer> ok how do i figure out if my tv card is being controled by the bttv module?
[12:37] <Seveas> frazmanw, dapper has gutenprint...
[12:37] <ompaul> ashyg, your online now - do the assignment now
[12:37] <ashyg> ompaul: i don't know how to use the live cd to fix it however
[12:37] <|PecK|> dutch: thx
[12:37] <mwe> slavik: yeah. sudo alows for more fine grained security
[12:37] <ashyg> ompaul: i already completed the assignment, it was a programming assignment that took me a few days :P
[12:37] <slavik> gotcha
[12:37] <ashyg> i just need to mail it in
[12:37] <MrRio> is there any reason why services cant be loaded while the login screen is sitting there waiting for input, instead of just before
[12:37] <mwe> slavik: you can allow root access to only some things with sudo
[12:38] <ompaul> ashyg, and it is on that drive
[12:38] <slavik> right
[12:38] <ashyg> yes
[12:38] <ifwui45> so I want to copy something from the desktop of someone else to the Root folder...
[12:38] <ifwui45> how do I do that?
[12:38] <mwe> slavik: also it's one less open door
[12:38] <frazmanw> Seveas, yeah, I have thought of using Dapper, but had no eth0 when trying to install, and decided I would wait a bit longer
[12:38] <ifwui45> please ppl
[12:38] <slavik> IMO, something needs to be done with menus ...
[12:38] <ompaul> you got windows going on that box atm?
[12:38] <ifwui45> Im in a hurry
[12:38] <slavik> mwe: I get ...
[12:38] <ashyg> ompaul: windows is installed on it
[12:38] <gnudreamer> lshw lspci these comands tell me the card is present , lsmod | grep bttv returns info...what can I do to make the link work
[12:38] <ashyg> but it can't boot
[12:38] <ashyg> because GRUB fails
[12:38] <Seveas> !patience
[12:38] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[12:38] <ompaul> ashyg, if you have why not try to get an ext2/3 reader for windows
[12:39] <slavik> I also read that for laptops, it's better to have the hard internet connected so that ubuntu doesn't attempt to search for a wireless network
[12:39] <ashyg> i have one ompaul
[12:39] <Seveas> ashyg, I'm afraid you'll need a lie cd (or the install cd and quite a bit of grub knowledge)
[12:39] <ashyg> i have the install cd
[12:39] <ashyg> i keep reinstalling, i've reinstalled 4 variants with no luck
[12:39] <slavik> mwe: If I can install ubuntu 64bit, is there any real reason to go for the 32bit ubuntu install?
[12:39] <ashyg> breey 32/64, dapper 32/64
[12:39] <gnudreamer> i wish ubuntu would reach ou to my wireless card while connected to the cat5!
[12:40] <Seveas> slavik, 64bit has no flash, no w32codecs, no java plugin in the browser, no freenx. If you need any of those: go 32bit
[12:40] <mwe> slavik: I hear many things doesn't work or only works half in u64
[12:40] <cplusplus> hi
[12:40] <slavik> Seveas: can't those be installed?
[12:40] <mwe> slavik: for example there is no java/flash plugins for u64 afaik
[12:40] <Seveas> Slackwise, they don't exist
[12:40] <slavik> Seveas: is there like a list or an article that I can read about it in detail?
[12:40] <Seveas> slavik*
[12:40] <Seveas> slavik, that is the complete list as far as I know it
[12:40] <slavik> can those be installed after ubuntu is installed?
[12:41] <slavik> Seveas: then what is freenx?
[12:41] <ompaul> ashyg, if you can do a build while it is up before that third boot try DSL if you can't download a full distro - or recovery is possible - but I would try the ext3 reader from inside windows first
[12:41] <Seveas> slavik, no, they don;t exist for 64bit
[12:41] <MrRio> the linux bootup procedure should really load up necessary things first (from a user perspective). gfx drivers, mouse, sound, then do all the rest while its sitting there with a pretty login screen, so, your wireless drivers, mounting other drives, networking, etc...
[12:41] <Seveas> slavik, freenx is a VNC replacement
[12:41] <BrickMaker> how can i make my "Application ,Places, System" top panel like Kde?
[12:41] <MrRio> i could be talking rubbish, since i have limited knowledge
[12:42] <frazmanw> none of the newer epson printers are listed on linuxprinting or in ubuntu. but have similar #'s will they work on same drivers, or not work at all yet. ex. CX4200, or CX5400 (cx5200 is fully supported but 5400 not listed)
[12:42] <mwe> slavik: IMHO u64 is not quite ready for the desktop yet
[12:42] <Seveas> MrRio, this is exactly what is planned for dapper+1
[12:42] <slavik> Seveas: I don't know what VNC is either ... I am guessing that I don't need it
[12:42] <Seveas> slavik, :)
[12:42] <MrRio> Seveas, sounds good, ill post my bootchart to the wiki and shutup then :)
[12:42] <ompaul> right I am off to bed - so tired it is just not even funny
[12:42] <mwe> slavik: I also heard you can't run games in wine in u64.
[12:43] <ompaul> zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[12:43] <shekhar> slavik:  you there? i have another quick question...
[12:43] <MrRio> Seveas: dapper+1 = 6.10?
[12:43] <slavik> mwe: as for gaming, I only plan on having UT2k4 as a native install ... at most
[12:43] <mwe> slavik: don't know if that would work in u64 either
[12:43] <slavik> shekhar: go ahead, although mwe and Seveas will prolly give you a better answer. :)
[12:43] <ompaul> ashyg, good luck, maybe you could consider bringing the h/d with you tomorrow and d/load it on a box with normal ide - just saying
[12:43] <slavik> mwe: it's not a big loss.
[12:44] <ompaul> MrRio, that would be the idea
[12:44] <slavik> mwe: it will be going on a laptop for web/email/dev stuff
[12:44] <bz0b> does anyone know the package name for xubuntu?
[12:44] <mwe> slavik: If you insist an are ready to face problems go for u64
[12:44] <Seveas> MrRio, yes
[12:44] <lightbright> Seveas: hello
[12:44] <bimberi> bz0b: xubuntu-desktop
[12:44] <Seveas> they have quite a few Really Cool Plans for 6.10
[12:44] <slavik> mwe: I can always get u32 if u64 doesn't pan out. :)
[12:44] <mwe> slavik: basic system in u64 is great
[12:44] <Seveas> hi lightbright
[12:44] <mwe> slavik: yeah
[12:44] <bz0b> bimberi: is it the same for ubuntu 64 bit install
[12:45] <zenwhen> Does anyone know where the gnome panel settings are stored?
[12:45] <mwe> slavik: you have been warned though :)
[12:45] <shekhar> slavik:  i just downloaded thunderbird 1.5 and want to know where to install it
[12:45] <zenwhen> I need to reset them
[12:45] <slavik> mwe: is there an easy way to upgrade to u64 from u32 without formatting and such?
[12:45] <slavik> shekhar: /opt/thunderbird/ is a good location
[12:45] <bz0b> ah, i figured it out, i didnt uncomment my sources
[12:45] <mwe> slavik: not that I know of. I think you need to wipe the old system
[12:45] <slavik> I've been reading that /opt is a good dir for extra stuff to install into
[12:45] <bimberi> bz0b: ok :)
[12:45] <slavik> mwe: I figured as much
[12:46] <shekhar> slavik:  if i untar it there, it will work?
[12:46] <slavik> mwe: what about upgrading the version of ubuntu? from breezy to dapper for example
[12:46] <mwe> slavik: /opt is where I keep stuff like ff1.5
[12:46] <mwe> slavik: that /must/ work
[12:46] <slavik> shekhar: probably not, since it would require extra things
[12:46] <mwe> slavik: it's a requirement
[12:46] <slavik> mwe: what is a requirement?
[12:46] <slavik> breezy to dapper upgrade?
[12:46] <BrickMaker> mwe, yeah same question
[12:47] <tj_> anyone know how to share printer with windows xp?
[12:47] <BrickMaker> breezy to dapper
[12:47] <mwe> slavik: that upgrading from one version to the next should be supported
[12:47] <slavik> gotcha, just making sure ^^
[12:47] <mwe> slavik: it's a develpment decision
[12:47] <BrickMaker> me 2 ;))
[12:47] <shekhar> slavik:  what else is required to do?
[12:48] <eightiesk> why won't my GAIM or flash sound work ? the test sound works...
[12:48] <BrickMaker> mwe, what if i want to change my Panel (task bar) style.
[12:48] <|PecK|> my windows partition is read-only for normal users. is there a way i can chmod a folder so normal users can write to it?
[12:48] <bimberi> tj_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP
[12:48] <mwe> BrickMaker: sorry I don't use gnome
[12:48] <tj_> thx
[12:48] <BrickMaker> mwe, you are using kubuntu then?
[12:48] <bimberi> tj_: yw :)
[12:49] <mwe> BrickMaker: fluxbox and kde, yes
[12:49] <mwe> BrickMaker: kde most of the time
[12:49] <eightiesk> noone know?
[12:49] <slavik> mwe: it's a good decision ;)
[12:49] <BrickMaker> mwe, kde is really good
[12:50] <mwe> BrickMaker: slavik that's what I think :)
[12:50] <slavik> shekhar: if you want to install from source or such, it would require certain aliases or symbolic links to be set
[12:50] <BrickMaker> thats why i'm downloading Kubuntu ;)
[12:50] <lysis> hey guys, i just installed the fglrx driver (just formatted ubuntu and reinstalled)
[12:50] <slavik> lysis: congrats?
[12:50] <lysis> how do i set it up to do 1440x900?  i forget which file
[12:50] <mwe> BrickMaker: that's one of the beaties of linux. freedom to choose
[12:50] <slavik> !ndiswrapper
[12:50] <ubotu> hmm... ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[12:51] <BrickMaker> yeah
[12:51] <ashyg> help me get GRUB working
[12:51] <spine_> exit
[12:51] <ashyg> i just installed ubuntu twice
[12:51] <Zarla> Hello All
[12:51] <lightbright> BrickMaker: you will return to gnome ;)
[12:51] <ashyg> and now whenever i boot i get GRUB error 15 - file not found
[12:51] <BrickMaker> lightbright, lol i'm not sure
[12:51] <ashyg> after trying to reinstall ubuntu twice
[12:51] <lightbright> ashyg: ask trappist
[12:51] <lightbright> BrickMaker: we shall see ;)
[12:51] <ashyg> trappist: how do i get GRUB working?
[12:51] <shekhar> slavik:  no i just want to download and install from http://www.mozilla.com/thunderbird/releases/1.5.html
[12:51] <BrickMaker> lightbright, i'v use Kde before when i had SuSe 9.1 with kde
[12:51] <BrickMaker> lightbright, lol ok!
[12:52] <Zarla> is somebody knows how to change the screen resolution for gdm without manualy edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file ?
[12:52] <mwe> ashyg: obviously something seems to be broken wheter it hardware or software since you end there everytime you install
[12:52] <lightbright> Zarla:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:52] <Zarla> lightbright: Thanks a lot
[12:52] <lightbright> Zarla: anytime :)
[12:52] <|PecK|> if I add ,users, in my fstab for /dev/hda5/ will it be read-write to all users?
[12:53] <slavik> shekhar: gimmie 1sec
[12:53] <ashyg> mwe how is it fixed thoug
[12:53] <slavik> shekhar: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThunderbirdNewVersion?highlight=%28thunderbird%29
[12:53] <slavik> not that thunderbird 1.5 and firefox 1.5 are standard in dapper
[12:53] <mwe> ashyg: buy new hardware or fix the software is the short answer :)
[12:54] <slavik> mwe, question about ff and tb
[12:54] <|PecK|> no gftp for ubuntu ??
[12:54] <ashyg> but mwe the problem appeared from nowhere
[12:54] <mwe> |PecK|: yes
[12:54] <ashyg> before it would give me three boots before GRUB failed
[12:54] <ashyg> now it fails on the first boot
[12:54] <BrickMaker> mwe, lol nice answer!
[12:54] <ashyg> i need to get into windows at the very least
[12:54] <|PecK|> mwe: you answering to fstabs or gftp?
[12:54] <slavik> when the upgrade is done ... how can you remove the 1.5ff and 1.5 tb from the old instalation?
[12:54] <ifwui45> how do I run the ispci command?
[12:54] <mwe> ashyg: is it just _possible_ your hdd is unstable?
[12:54] <ifwui45> Do i have to install it?
[12:54] <pixelfairy> ifwui45: you mean lspci?
[12:54] <ashyg> mwe, no. not possible.
[12:55] <slavik> ifwui45: it's a lowercase 'L' ... not uppercase 'I'
[12:55] <ifwui45> oh its an l
[12:55] <ashyg> the hard drive has worked without fail for a month and it is new
[12:55] <ifwui45> oh ok
[12:55] <ifwui45> lol
[12:55] <mwe> |PecK|: gftp is there
[12:55] <ashyg> So how do I get it to boot?
[12:55] <ashyg> Please PLEASE i really need to get it booted :(
[12:55] <mwe> |PecK|: in universe
[12:56] <pixelfairy> are there any other easy front ends to ftp and ssh?
[12:56] <pixelfairy> (that do both)
[12:56] <pixelfairy> (and yes, i realize konq does it)
[12:56] <lightbright> pixelfairy: its hard to take you serious with a nick like that :)
[12:56] <pixelfairy> teehee!
[12:56] <pixelfairy> then dont
[12:56] <ashyg> okay so I opened ash from the installer
[12:56] <ashyg> how do i fix GRUB from ash?
[12:56] <pixelfairy> i dont take me seriously either :)
[12:57] <lightbright> pixelfairy: :)
[12:57] <mwe> ashyg: I have no idea what would cause it to break after every 3 boots other than flacky hardware, but you say that's not possible so I'm kinda lost here
[12:57] <Sanne> ashyg, wasn't there some command to restore the windows boot loader? You need a windows boot disk or similar to get to the windows command shell. Wasn't it something like 'fdisk /mbr'? Anybody?
[12:57] <|PecK|> mwe checking again
[12:57] <mwe> |PecK|: enable universe
[12:57] <ashyg> yes you can do fdisk /mbr but you need a windows boot disk
[12:57] <mwe> |PecK|: it's not by default
[12:57] <slavik> Seveas: could you PM me the small list of the stuff you said was working in u64? I want to research on them
[12:57] <ashyg> i don't have one where can they be downloaded
[12:57] <lightbright> mwe: how can he be 100% certain its not hawrdware issue?
[12:57] <ashyg> i assume it fits on a floppy
[12:58] <lightbright> mwe: he is assuming its not
[12:58] <ashyg> lightbright: my hardware works fine in windows
[12:58] <|PecK|> mwe: done that. no results found
[12:58] <mwe> |PecK|: did you sudo apt-get update?
[12:58] <timfrost> Sanne, XP install CD has a command FIXMBR.  That is preferred over fdisk/mbr
[12:58] <lightbright> ashyg: and ubuntui wont load?
[12:58] <ashyg> GRUB won't work
[12:58] <pixelfairy> cool, gnome has one built in
[12:58] <|PecK|> mwe, no, used Synaptic
[12:58] <quilon> where do I change my ip config on an ubuntu box.. through command line
[12:58] <ELpH95o> wjati[ fp;s
[12:58] <lightbright> ashyg: after a fresh install, it wont load?
[12:58] <mwe> |PecK|: did you update it?
[12:58] <ashyg> yes lightbright
[12:59] <ashyg> that is precisely what is happenuing
[12:59] <|PecK|> mwe: yep
[12:59] <lightbright> ashyg: then its a user error installtion
[12:59] <Sanne> timfrost, ah cool (I stopped at Win98). ashyg did you read that message from timfrost?
[12:59] <ashyg> fuck no it isn't, lightbright
[12:59] <ashyg> because it appeared out of nowhere
[12:59] <mwe> |PecK|: can you paste /etc/apt/sources.list at pastebin.com?
[12:59] <bimberi> quilon: System -> Administration -> Networking
[12:59] <ashyg> and i installed the same way i have every time
[12:59] <ashyg> i get GRUB error 15
[12:59] <quilon> bimberi: looking for the command line options .. in which file is it stored in .etc ?
[01:00] <cplusplus2> hi
[01:00] <|PecK|> mwe: did apt-get install gftp and it found it
[01:00] <lightbright> ashyg: you removed a partition did you?
[01:00] <cplusplus2> i want to share files
[01:00] <mwe> |PecK|: all right
[01:00] <slavik> woah ... no java for 64bit?
[01:00] <bimberi> quilon: ah - /etc/network/interfaces
[01:00] <cubikdice> whats thats windows font package called again?
[01:00] <cplusplus2> between kubuntu and windows...
[01:00] <ashyg> lightbright: no, no removed partitions
[01:00] <lightbright> ashyg: no need to swear please
[01:00] <mwe> slavik: yes
[01:00] <quilon> bimberi: thanks
[01:00] <cplusplus2> i enabled samba
[01:00] <mwe> slavik: but no plugin
[01:00] <|PecK|> mwe: synaptic couldn't though, weird. but thx a lot.
[01:00] <cplusplus2> ok?
[01:00] <bimberi> quilon: np :)
[01:00] <ashyg> lightbright: i know, i am just very frustrated, i have been working with trying to get ubuntu working for three weeks non-stop
[01:00] <ashyg> and have had no luck
[01:00] <lightbright> ashyg: faulty install CD?
[01:00] <gamma> anyone here a gentoo convert? need someone to talk to
[01:00] <slavik> oh ... as long as I can compile and run java apps in 64bit, I'm fine
[01:00] <ashyg> lightbright: no, same cd i installed with before - i have 4 cds actually
[01:00] <slavik> Eclipse and all
[01:00] <gamma> err converted from gentoo rather
[01:00] <cplusplus2> than i activated adcanced sharing....
[01:01] <ashyg> dapper 32/64, breezy 32/64
[01:01] <ashyg> none work
[01:01] <lightbright> ashyg: yeah I understand.  God is teaching you patience through adversity
[01:01] <cplusplus2> and add shared folers
[01:01] <mwe> slavik: actually I heard if you install an older java version there's a plugin
[01:01] <pixelfairy> gamma: i tried gentoo a couple times, i dont have the bandwidth for it
[01:01] <cubikdice> whats thats windows font package called again?
[01:01] <cplusplus2> but when i connect to from windows to kubutu it doesnt
[01:01] <bimberi> cubikdice: msttcorefonts
[01:01] <cplusplus2> work
[01:01] <pixelfairy> found slackware easier for the gentoo like stuff
[01:01] <Sanne> ashyg, did you read the probable solution timfrost posted with the XP install cd?
[01:01] <gamma> pixelfairy: did you use it in depth?
[01:01] <cplusplus2> because i need a passwd!?!?!! why?
[01:01] <ashyg> yes but i don't have an xp install cd
[01:01] <pixelfairy> i wouldnt call it in depth
[01:01] <lightbright> ashyg: why dont you totally clean the hard drive, including the MBR?
[01:01] <cubikdice> bimberi: thanks
[01:01] <pixelfairy> but for a while
[01:01] <azellman> still having trouble changing resolution from 640x480 with an ATI radeon 7000
[01:01] <Sanne> ashyg, sigh... ok
[01:01] <csb> i have a dual-boot XP/Ubuntu machine that i am having problems getting Ubuntu to see my Fat32 partition...where should i ask for help?
[01:01] <pixelfairy> that was a long time ago
[01:01] <ashyg> i am not formatting my windows disk, lightbright
[01:02] <bimberi> cubikdice: np :)
[01:02] <taoscotch> hi there
[01:02] <secureboot> can i get the madwifi source from ubuntu in any way, so that I can make my own custom kernel (xen), but still get and get updates to the madwifi source?
[01:02] <zenmac> Does anyone know where the gnome-panel settings are stored now? They used to be stored in the .gnome dir but now I cannot possibly reset my gnome panel seeting and gnome-panel will not function.
[01:02] <gamma> pixelfairy: well did gentoo seem any faster than ubuntu?
[01:02] <lightbright> ashyg: can you load windows now?
[01:02] <taoscotch> anybody did a server install on an old desktop
[01:02] <zenmac> settings*
[01:02] <slavik> mwe: what about http://www.java.com/en/download/help/5000011400.xml
[01:02] <quilon> bimberi: that doesn't list the ip and netmask
[01:02] <pixelfairy> this was before ubuntu existed
[01:02] <ashyg> lightbright: no
[01:02] <pixelfairy> slackware seems faster than ubuntu if that helps any
[01:02] <lightbright> ashyg: when Ubuntu asks you about GRUB during install, which option exactly are you chosing?
[01:02] <zblach> hi. quick question. how can I get my mic. working?
[01:02] <azellman> still having trouble changing resolution from 640x480 with an ATI radeon 7000
[01:02] <pixelfairy> ubuntu seems faster than redhat
[01:02] <bimberi> quilon: it will if you've set up static addressing - are you using dhcp?
[01:02] <mwe> slavik: I believe it doesn't have a working plugin
[01:02] <pixelfairy> but that could just be my hardware
[01:02] <lightbright> ashyg: why doesnt windows load?
[01:02] <slavik> on the 32bit install for vmware, there was a symlink that needed to be placed in firefox plugin dir for it to load java ...
[01:02] <ashyg> lightbright: it just says "Install GRUB to MBR?"
[01:02] <cplusplus2> i want to share files from kubutu to windows
[01:02] <cplusplus2> i enabled samba...than i activated adcanced sharing....
[01:02] <cplusplus2> and add shared folers...but when i connect to from windows to kubutu it doesnt work because
[01:02] <cplusplus2> because i need a passwd!?!?!! why?
[01:03] <ashyg> lightbright: and i select yes
[01:03] <quilon> bimberi: I am using static ip
[01:03] <slavik> mwe: sun will devel it, though, right?
[01:03] <lightbright> ashyg: then say NO, install it to /boot instead
[01:03] <pixelfairy> ive noticed suse likes newer hardware too
[01:03] <lightbright> ashyg: tried that?
[01:03] <ashyg> lightbright: because when i boot off my hard disk i get "GRUB ERROR 15"
[01:03] <ashyg> okay i will try light
[01:03] <lightbright> ashyg: yes try that
[01:03] <mwe> slavik: I think so yes
[01:03] <slavik> cplusplus2: so that nobody just grabs your stuff?
[01:03] <lightbright> ashyg: create a /boot
[01:03] <taoscotch> hi there has anybody did a server install for a computer with very small hard disk.
[01:03] <Scram> cplusplus2: you can set the password used by samba with "smbpasswd" - the user name is your account...
[01:03] <slavik> mwe: so it's not like they won't exist ^^
[01:03] <lightbright> ashyg: then say NO, install it to /boot instead!  try it, doesnt hurt
[01:03] <bimberi> quilon: i'm stumped then.  btw "ifconfig" will show the current state
[01:04] <slavik> although that will suck, I can live without java in ff ...
[01:04] <azellman> i'm still having trouble changing resolution from 640x480 with an ATI radeon 7000
[01:04] <ashyg> wait how do i create a /boot
[01:04] <pixelfairy> gamma: theres some gentoo users in #sfvlug
[01:04] <slavik> mwe: wouldn't a java browser be immune to it?
[01:04] <|37th|Trigger> Hello.. Does anyone know how to reset my password? i forgot it :(
[01:04] <Scram> cplusplus2: to enable it without passwords you would need to set it to "anonymous" sharing
[01:04] <mwe> slavik: no. and if you install 1.4.2 there is a plugin I think
[01:04] <lightbright> ashyg: just tell it to install grub to a folder, NOT the MBR
[01:04] <Scram> |37th|Trigger: do you have grub installed?
[01:04] <slavik> mwe: that's fine ... I want 1.5 only for devel stuff
[01:04] <azellman> i need help w/ screen resolution
[01:05] <bimberi> |37th|Trigger: boot into recovery mode, type "passwd <username>" at the prompt
[01:05] <pixelfairy> |37th|Trigger: easy way is "rescue" on the install cd, or just boot to single user mode
[01:05] <azellman> i can't change it
[01:05] <mwe> slavik: I'm not speaking from personal experience though
[01:05] <lightbright> azellman: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:05] <slavik> mwe: it's fine
[01:05] <|37th|Trigger> so erm..
[01:05] <|37th|Trigger> boot in recovery
[01:05] <ashyg> lightbright: how do i install GRUB from the installer
[01:05] <|37th|Trigger> and put
[01:05] <ashyg> without running the whole ubuntu install
[01:05] <|37th|Trigger> passwd Nick passhere ?
[01:05] <pixelfairy> |37th|Trigger: passwd
[01:05] <lightbright> ashyg: dont worry to create /boot, ubuntu does that anyway!  instead of saying YES when asked to install grub to MBR, say NO
[01:05] <pixelfairy> passwd Nick
[01:05] <azellman> lightbright: i did that stuff they said in the terminal, and then got lost
[01:05] <pixelfairy> then the password
[01:06] <ashyg> yes but do i have to go through the whole install process for that lightbright
[01:06] <|37th|Trigger> ahh
[01:06] <bimberi> |37th|Trigger: no, just "passwd Nick" then it will prompt for a new password
[01:06] <|37th|Trigger> ahh
[01:06] <mwe> ashyg: doesn't alt-f2 bring you to a shell where you can run grub-install?
[01:06] <|37th|Trigger> thanks alot
[01:06] <lightbright> azellman: read it again
[01:06] <lightbright> azellman: follow the steps
[01:06] <|37th|Trigger> i thought i was about to have to reinstall
[01:06] <azellman> lightbright: ok, thanks
[01:06] <|37th|Trigger> im new to linux
[01:06] <|37th|Trigger> you guys are life savers
[01:06] <|37th|Trigger> :)
[01:06] <lightbright> azellman: and rtemember, patience ;)
[01:06] <secureboot> can i get the madwifi source from ubuntu in any way, so that I can make my own custom kernel (xen), but still get and get updates to the madwifi source?
[01:06] <slavik> mwe: have you seen this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[01:06] <quilon> bimberi: sorry I was looking at the wrong box.. me bad :(
[01:06] <pixelfairy> |37th|Trigger: keep a livecd around
[01:06] <azellman> lightbright: i just started using linux this weekend, so it could be a long process
[01:06] <pinkisntwell>  I'm trying to play a region 0 dvd and it doesn't work, while playing another does
[01:06] <bimberi> |37th|Trigger: make sure it works first :)
[01:06] <lightbright> |37th|Trigger: when in dfoubt, bimberi will come to your rescue ;)
[01:07] <|PecK|> If I add the option user to fstab, will I be able to write on a partition?
[01:07] <bimberi> quilon: ah, you had me really puzzled :P
[01:07] <mwe> slavik: that looks promising. try it
[01:07] <lightbright> |37th|Trigger: i speak from experience ;)
[01:07] <slavik> mwe: I don't have the laptop though :P
[01:07] <ELpH95o> FEMINRs, Verocj [cpm,s d ui seapoogp
[01:07] <bimberi> lightbright: steady on there :)
[01:07] <ELpH95o> it hat consider OBE?
[01:07] <lightbright> azellman: it takes years to learn linux :)  in my case anyway ;)
[01:07] <lightbright> bimberi: ok :)
[01:08] <bimberi> lightbright: and we don't have the position of president yet :P
[01:08] <lightbright> azellman: even linux experts are always learning :)
[01:08] <lightbright> bimberi:  hehe ;)
[01:08] <Scram> you never stop learning... after all?
[01:08] <lightbright> never :)
[01:09] <lightbright> actually the more I learn the more I realise I dont know much :)
[01:09] <lightbright> the real experts know they dont know much.   I have a soundcard and my motherboard has on board sound. my mic is a headset and has a speaker as part of it. can i plug that set into my onboard sound?
[01:10] <i3dmaster> The volumn control on the panel is showing a red x when I click it, it says either I don't have right GStreamer plugins installed or I don't have sound card configured. Anyone knows how to remedy this?
[01:10] <mwe> !sound
[01:10] <ubotu> sound is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[01:11] <mwe> i3dmaster: try what ubotu suggested
[01:11] <i3dmaster> mwe, ubotu: ok, let me take a look of that.. thanks!
[01:12] <deadcat66> hi, i am having trouble with this command 'dd bs=1048576 if=./tiger-x86-flat.img of=/dev/hda'
[01:12] <deadcat66> nothing happends when i use it.
[01:12] <keherman> isn't there some "getting started" article on the wiki for absolute beginners?
[01:12] <deadcat66> my terminal window just hangs.
[01:12] <ashyg> ok i ran grub-install /boot
[01:13] <armos> i wanted to install an video game emulator called mednafen and its told me to install SDL-1.2.X and i got the package but i get this error when i try to make it any ideas?
[01:13] <ashyg> and i got "Executing 'grub-install /boot' failed. This is a fatal. error."
[01:13] <mwe> deadcat66: what are you trying to do?
[01:13] <cplusplus2> scram -> anonymous sharing -> user: anonymous passwd anonymous ?
[01:13] <lightbright> keherman: yes
[01:13] <resonant> This is odd, I just reinstalled ubuntu, and now apt-get outputs nothing, synaptic, and the update-notifier also do not run
[01:13] <ashyg> CRAP
[01:13] <ashyg> i just installed lilo to my ipod
[01:13] <keherman> lightbright, where is it?
[01:13] <resonant> but the notifier shows that I have updates, I just cant see them
[01:14] <Scram> cplusplus2: no... its a different flag in the config and should allow access without user/password at all
[01:14] <keherman> armos, you need the header files...
[01:14] <keherman> armos, get the -devel version
[01:14] <lightbright> keherman: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/
[01:14] <mwe> ashyg: how did you manage to do that?
[01:14] <Sanne> keherman, there's also the nice Ubuntu 5.10 Starter Guide accessible from the help icon on your panel.
[01:14] <armos> ?? does it have a differnt name at the end like the tar.gz thigns
[01:14] <armos> ?
[01:14] <ashyg> mwe: i am retarded :(
[01:14] <|PecK|> lol ashyg
[01:14] <ashyg> mwe anyways grub-install /boot failed
[01:14] <armos> ...
[01:14] <xbox_sky> ...
[01:15] <armos> ....
[01:15] <mwe> ashyg: yes
[01:15] <xbox_sky> armos
[01:15] <armos> lol;
[01:15] <armos> : D
[01:15] <lightbright> ashyg: did you say NO to install grub to mbr?
[01:15] <xbox_sky> http://bringbackkirk.com/
[01:15] <mwe> ashyg: it should be grub-install /dev/hda or sth like that
[01:15] <xbox_sky> SIGN It
[01:15] <xbox_sky> :D
[01:15] <cplusplus2> WORKSTATION\gerald .... and passwd which i used at smbpasswd dont work;((
[01:15] <|PecK|> where to go to get mp3 and m4a to work?
[01:16] <armos> >_<
[01:16] <ashyg> lightbright: yes
[01:16] <bz0b> when is the official release date for drapper drake
[01:16] <lightbright> ashyg: where exactly did you install Grub to then?
[01:16] <xbox_sky> armos >_<
[01:16] <xbox_sky> :(
[01:16] <mwe> ashyg: I doubt reinstalling grub will fix anything though as it's already installed. it's the kernel it can't find
[01:16] <ashyg> well how do i make it find the kernel
[01:16] <armos> ;-0
[01:16] <mwe> ashyg: as far as I can tell
[01:16] <ashyg> i've reinstalled ubuntu 3 times
[01:17] <lightbright> mwe: I believe he is instaling grub wrongly, user error
[01:17] <ashyg> wait what the hell
[01:17] <ashyg> i got ubuntu to work now
[01:17] <mwe> ashyg: yes but it keeps breaking
[01:17] <ashyg> i unplugged my ipod
[01:17] <ashyg> and now it boots
[01:17] <ashyg> ...
[01:17] <lightbright> ashyg: so it worked as I said?
[01:17] <bz0b> its cause your motherboard
[01:17] <xbox_sky> :)
[01:17] <ashyg> apparently having my ipod plugged in at boot ws causing the issue
[01:17] <bimberi> bz0b: April (20th iirc)
[01:17] <lightbright> ashyg: interesting
[01:18] <michael__> hello???
[01:18] <bz0b> what does iirc stand for again?
[01:18] <cplusplus2> Scram config where?
[01:18] <lightbright> ashyg: so when you removed your ipod, it boots?  the ipod caused a grub error 15?  or did it work when you said NO to installl grub to MBR?
[01:18] <MickMcMack> bz0b, "If I rememeber correctly".
[01:18] <armos> B-}
[01:18] <bimberi> bz0b: lol - "if i recall correctly"
[01:18] <bz0b> lol i forgot
[01:18] <mwe> ashyg: your ipod should _not_ be mounted on /boot
[01:18] <Scram> cplusplus2: /etc/samba/samba.conf ... don't know wether those flags are exported by the GUI
[01:18] <ashyg> saying no did not work, lightbright
[01:18] <ashyg> i had to say yes
[01:18] <Scram> cplusplus2: easy way - use the supplied user+password
[01:18] <michael__> I just intalled WINE. Can someone tell me how to get it to work now?
[01:18] <bz0b> is it possible to install ubuntu on an ipod
[01:19] <ashyg> but having the ipod plugged in caused the error 15
[01:19] <bz0b> and make it your boot device
[01:19] <lightbright> ashyg: plug the ipod back in and tell me if it boots!  because I still believe once you said NO to grub install to MBR fixed it
[01:19] <mwe> ashyg: yeah if it's mounted to /boot grub can't find the kernel
[01:19] <lightbright> ashyg: so is the ipod plugged in now?
[01:19] <cplusplus2> simple sharing?
[01:19] <mwe> ashyg: don't mount it there
[01:19] <bz0b> screw ipod, its all about iriver
[01:19] <bz0b> jk
[01:19] <ashyg> no, lightbright i had to do YES
[01:19] <bimberi> michael__: "wine SomeDastardlyWindowsProgram.exe"
[01:19] <ashyg> because when i chose NO it gave me a fatal error
[01:19] <lightbright> ashyg: had to do YES to what?>
[01:19] <ashyg> YES to the install to MBR
[01:20] <mwe> ashyg: did you see that? mounting your ipod to /boot is a bad idea
[01:20] <lightbright> ashyg: so it boots now and only thing that changed was ipod removal?
[01:20] <ashyg> i didn't mount the ipod to /boot
[01:20] <ashyg> it was just plugged in at boot time
[01:20] <ashyg> yes lightbright
[01:20] <mwe> ashyg: then ubuntu is broken.
[01:20] <lightbright> ashyg: you telling me for 3 days you couldnt get Ubunti to load, and all the fix was removing your ipod?
[01:20] <ashyg> i can replicate it - if i plug the ipod in, i can't boot
[01:20] <ashyg> if i remove it i can
[01:20] <ashyg> yes, lightbright
[01:21] <lightbright> ashyg: what made you remove the ipod today?
[01:21] <mwe> ashyg: report a bug
[01:21] <bz0b> im a chronic reformatter
[01:21] <bz0b> i reformatt for the hell of it
[01:21] <ashyg> lightbright: i don't know, i thought it might make it work
[01:21] <ashyg> and it did
[01:21] <lightbright> bz0b: have you seen professional help for your obsession of formatting? :)
[01:21] <bimberi> michael__: There are some utilities around that will set up a windows environment for you - http://frankscorner.org/ is a good resource
[01:21] <mwe> ashyg: the behavior is buggy as hell
[01:21] <bz0b> lightbright: i was hoping to find it in here
[01:21] <lightbright> ashyg: so 3 days ago all you had to do was remove ipod!  :P
[01:22] <cplusplus2> Scram...can you help me via remote? i cannt find the flag;(
[01:22] <lightbright> bz0b: nobody here is qualifed to help you with your formatting obsession :)
[01:22] <mwe> ashyg: it's still a bug. and a serious one too
[01:22] <bz0b> lightbright: only you can prevent it!
[01:22] <existance> bz0b, play tetris, that's all i can recommend.
[01:22] <lightbright> bz0b: im also obsessed with security
[01:23] <ashyg> yes mwe it is
[01:23] <mwe> ashyg: please report it
[01:23] <bz0b> lightbright: not me, im connected to a direct cable modem with no firewalls running
[01:23] <lightbright> mwe: no need to beg him ;)
[01:23] <Sanne> michael__, if you run wine for the first time, it should create a fake windows directory for you in ~/.wine/drive_c (IIRC). You can install windows programs and run them from there.
[01:23] <lightbright> bz0b: yeah I know (grin)
[01:24] <alejandro__> hii
[01:24] <cplusplus2> scram?
[01:24] <lightbright> ashyg: so what have you learned in the last 3 days? :)
[01:24] <alphy> how do you burn a CD with VOB files?
[01:24] <bz0b> so does anyone still know if that virus for linux is still in the yum repos? what was it called again? rtc?
[01:24] <lightbright> alphy: what?
[01:25] <alejandro__> any know how change screen resolution mora than
[01:25] <alphy> lightbright, I downloaded a DVD torrent files and it came in VOB files
[01:25] <ashyg> lightbright: apple is an agent of satan
[01:25] <alejandro__> any know how change screen resolution mora than 1024x768 ??
[01:25] <slavik> Seveas: is there any freenx type thing avail for windows? (the server, not the client)
[01:25] <lightbright> alphy: I dont support illegal files sorry
[01:26] <lightbright> ashyg: I know that, you didnt? :)
[01:26] <csb> is something wrong with this line in my fstab file?  /dev/hda4	/shared         vfat	defaults,umask=000  0       0
[01:26] <csb> /dev/hda4	/shared         vfat	defaults,umask=000  0       0
[01:26] <alejandro__> is possible increase the resolution over 1024x768 ?? in ubuntu ??
[01:26] <bz0b> brb
[01:26] <alphy> lightbright, it's not illegal, it's a home skating video
[01:26] <ELpH95o> i and  hop a rmovend muh tper
[01:26] <csb> i can't get my fat32 partition to show up
[01:26] <lightbright> ashyg: dont forget, it proably was an apple that started all this in garden of eden when satan offered it to Eve :P
[01:27] <timfrost> csb, does directory /shared exist?
[01:27] <lightbright> ashyg: but it says fruit, doesnt say which one :)
[01:27] <armos> make[2] : *** [install-am]  Error 2
[01:27] <armos> , make: *** [install-recursive]  Error 1
[01:27] <armos> i get that error
[01:27] <armos> still
[01:27] <erisco> I am trying to setup a shared folder over my network... it is being served on a wnidows computer, so my connection type should be windows share... correct?
[01:27] <frazmanw> What are, and should I enable the backported repositories?
[01:27] <alphy> lightbright, like a skateboarding video
[01:27] <armos> MEH!
[01:27] <lightbright> alphy: ah I see.
[01:27] <alejandro__> is possible increase the resolution over 1024x768 ?? in ubuntu ??
[01:27] <armos> : 0
[01:28] <lightbright> alphy: so you want to create a dvd?
[01:28] <alejandro__> is possible increase the resolution over 1024x768 ?? in ubuntu ??
[01:28] <alphy> lightbright, yah, cause the TV is much bigger than my screen, lol.
[01:28] <mwe> csb: asuming the device and mount point exist I don't spot any errors
[01:28] <Sanne> frazmanw, backports are software packages from the next ubuntu version (dapper) which are recompiled (backported) for the current ubuntu breezy.
[01:28] <timfrost> !tell alejandro__ about fixres
[01:28] <lightbright> alphy: use gnomebaker
[01:29] <lightbright> alejandro__: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:29] <frazmanw> Sanne so like If I need gutenprint instead of gimpprint it may be there? Are they safe to add?
[01:29] <alphy> lightbright, I have K3B, will that work?
[01:29] <lightbright> alphy: yes
[01:29] <erisco> i am trying to access a folder from this ubuntu computer that is located on my windows computer
[01:29] <erisco> . the folder is shared, but i am not sure of how to setup the connection with Places -> connect to server
[01:30] <mwe> erisco: and smbfs is installed?
[01:30] <alphy> lightbright, okay, I have bup, ifo, vob files, just burn them all to a dvd or is there a certain way to do it?
[01:30] <Sanne> frazmanw, I think they are naturally not as stable as the breezy software, but they are not *unsafe* per se. Try it, but be prepared that they may not work, would be my advice.
[01:30] <frazmanw> sanne ok
[01:31] <odium> I don't have the proper esound sink program installed, I should be able to select alsa in my multimedia selection preference utility, except it's not there, I have audio somehow (with oss selected) but totem doesn't work using osssink, am I missing something? I have alsa installed and working, I have yet to reboot from the initial install, could that be the issue?
[01:31] <lightbright> alphy: what?? you said it was a free public vob file only!
[01:31] <erisco> mwe, no
[01:32] <mwe> erisco: install it
[01:32] <Sanne> frazmanw, hmm, gutenprint doesn't seem to be in backports. You can request them be backported in the ubuntu forums.
[01:32] <erisco> mwe, i do not want samba
[01:32] <mwe> erisco: that's not samba
[01:32] <lightbright> erisco: do you know what samba is?
[01:32] <alphy> lightbright, man, I just know what I have in front of me.  the torrent's name was skatingathome.torrent  and I got these files
[01:32] <erisco> mwe, then what is it? I already have another share working without it
[01:32] <frazmanw> Sanne, I just noticed it is not there.
[01:33] <erisco> lightbright, yes
[01:33] <mwe> erisco: it's the file system and utils needed to access windows shares
[01:33] <Sanne> frazmanw, ok
[01:33] <frazmanw> Sanne, are you running dapper?
[01:33] <lightbright> alphy: sorry, as im not sure if its all legitimate!  ask someone else
[01:33] <mwe> erisco: if you have another working share smbfs is installed
[01:33] <lightbright> alphy: I cant help if I believe it may be pirated
[01:33] <Sanne> frazmanw, no, I'm sticking to the stable version :)
[01:34] <erisco> mwe, it wasn't though
[01:34] <frazmanw> Sanne,  curious
[01:34] <erisco> mwe, it may not have been a windows share
[01:34] <erisco> mwe, i am not sure how to find my settings for it again
[01:34] <alphy> lightbright, man, if you know just tell me.  I'm not getting angry.  I already have the files
[01:34] <erisco> mwe, so i am lost on how to set one up again
[01:34] <Sanne> frazmanw, :)
[01:34] <lightbright> alphy: sorry i cant help you, as im not sure if its all legitimate!
[01:35] <folki> i need your help. What I have to do if I want to be able play more than one sounds at the moment? For example I want to using Skype and listen music etc. If I playing music I can not listen any other sounds.
[01:35] <erisco> mwe, is there another connection method i should be using?
[01:35] <erisco> mwe, i cannot seem to get the windows share to work
[01:35] <pixelfairy> folki: skype has a special issue with sound
[01:35] <mcphail> folki: do you have 2 soundcards?
[01:35] <mwe> erisco: I only know the smbfs method.
[01:35] <pixelfairy> see the wiki
[01:36] <odium> Can anyone who uses gnome and alsa, tell me what their multimedia selection utility uses?
[01:36] <folki> I have only one integrated sound card.
[01:36] <mcphail> folki: the skype will hog it.
[01:36] <erisco> mwe, then how do i get that to work? i know have that installed
[01:36] <TechSonic> Can anyone tell me how to set armyops (America's Army) to only have playback?  I'm not sure I understand this faq either http://www.goteamspeak.com/index.php?page=faq&id=3&item=43#q43
[01:36] <mwe> erisco: first try accessing it from a terminal
[01:36] <erisco> mwe, how do i do that?
[01:37] <csb> timfrost: yes /shared exists
[01:37] <folki> skype is not important...I can` t any other sounds, not only Skype
[01:37] <mwe> erisco: smbclient -I <windows ip> -L X -U <windows user>
[01:37] <ELpH95o> and loe owjoddj jd ad wre t rim p kme
[01:37] <erisco> mwe, so i guess you want me to get the smbclient as well?
[01:37] <csb> what's the best way to create a shortcut to a directory, like /shared?
[01:38] <pixelfairy> csb rightclick, make link
[01:38] <csb> i should say what is the best way to mount somethign like that
[01:39] <pixelfairy> what are you trying to do?
[01:39] <mwe> erisco: it's installed with smbfs
[01:39] <csb> it's the fat32 partition...so i need to mount it
[01:39] <keherman> how do you disable the system without the GUI tool in Preferences?
[01:39] <csb> so it's there when i reboot
[01:39] <pixelfairy> so make it always mounted?
[01:39] <keherman> *disable system bell
[01:39] <mcphail> csb: add it to /etc/fstab
[01:39] <csb> i did that...but it does not mount
[01:39] <erisco> mwe, i am trying to connect to a specific folder
[01:39] <jepler> csb: you have to create an (empty) directory that has the name of the desired mount point (/shared)
[01:39] <pixelfairy> make sure the noauto option is not in its entry
[01:40] <erisco> mwe, what would be correc to do that?
[01:40] <mcphail> csb: then you have probably supplied the wrong parameters
[01:40] <armos> !wine
[01:40] <csb> jepler: that exists...if i go to a terminal and go to that dir, i see all the files in my fat32 partition
[01:40] <mwe> erisco: that command will list your shares
[01:40] <csb> my fstab line is:
[01:40] <csb> /dev/hda4	/shared         vfat	defaults,umask=000  0       0
[01:40] <erisco> mwe, it could not connect
[01:40] <fangorious> anyone using dapper?
[01:40] <Steil> Has anyone here had success with bcm43xx wifi modules?
[01:40] <mcphail> csb: do you just want to see the directory on your desktop?
[01:41] <csb> yes
[01:41] <ilba7r> anyone have problems with running gdmflexiserver using the gflrx drivers on a 9600 ATI card?
[01:41] <folki> Is here anybody who can give me advice how to be able to lesten more than one sounds at the moment?
[01:41] <bz0b> hey all
[01:41] <csb> btw, to compare, this is the fstab line for my NTFS partition, and it works:
[01:41] <csb> /dev/hda1	/media/WinNTFS  ntfs	nls=utf8,umask=0222  0       0
[01:41] <pixelfairy> folki: run esd? thought it ran by default
[01:41] <ilba7r> !tell folki about dmix
[01:41] <csb> there is an icon on boot every time
[01:41] <mwe> erisco: erisco the X following -L should be the net bios name
[01:41] <erisco> tree connect failed: NT_STATUS_DUPLICATE_NAME
[01:41] <pixelfairy> !dmix
[01:41] <ubotu> I heard dmix is first try system>prefrences>multimedia system selector change it to alsa. for oss application type aoss <appl name> if still have problems then http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[01:41] <erisco> mwe.... what will those be?
[01:41] <jepler> csb: It may be that directories under /media get an icon, others don't?  I'm not sure, but you might try using /media/shared instead of just /shared.
[01:42] <csb> ok
[01:42] <erisco> mwe, net name as in domain name?
[01:42] <mwe> erisco: the name of the windows machine
[01:42] <bz0b> how do i get my sound to work?
[01:42] <erisco> mwe, and bios as in the computer name?
[01:42] <ilba7r> folki, it also depend on what you wana run together and how you set your sound system
[01:42] <folki> I just reading something about dmix...what is it?
[01:42] <mcphail> csb: on moment and i'll have a solution
[01:42] <ilba7r> folki, virtual sound mixing
[01:42] <mwe> erisco: -L <computer name>
[01:42] <MrRio> arg, maybe a more ear-friendly test sound for the 'Multimedia Systems Selector'
[01:43] <mwe> erisco: smbclient -I <windows ip> -L <windows computer name> -U <windows user>
[01:43] <jepler> csb: Or, for each user you could 'cd Desktop; ln -s /shared .' to create a symlink called 'shared' which points to '/shared'
[01:43] <csb> mcphail ok
[01:43] <ELpH95o> o aejoti thought about dstdying becas i was terinring mie\ke slll dy
[01:43] <jepler> csb: you'll get a "link to a folder icon", though, and not a "hard drive" icon
[01:43] <folki> I know that my soundcard does not support HW sound mixing...how can I solve it?
[01:43] <mwe> well good night
[01:43] <csb> ok, but i do wonder why it works that way
[01:43] <ilba7r> folki, that is exactly what dmix is for
[01:44] <erisco> mwe, thanks that worked
[01:44] <jepler> csb: Often there are mounted filesystems that should not appear as drives on the desktop -- /boot is one example
[01:44] <erisco> mwe, my share is listed
[01:44] <ELpH95o> I ave Aerpg  Bpt/jdpem daepale;eadpcates. fas tcars.ednbe and boc  Sister
[01:44] <ELpH95o> lol
[01:45] <jepler> csb: I think /media represents places it more frequently "makes sense" to visit in the file browser
[01:45] <csb> so it's ok to just make a symbolic link?
[01:45] <ashyg> so wtf is ELpH95o talking about
[01:45] <csb> well i guess i would like to make the fat32 partition in media
[01:45] <csb> is that possible?
[01:46] <erisco> mwe, thanks! Now i figured out the correct inputs i needed for the gui connection
[01:46] <pixelfairy> csb: its probalby already there
[01:46] <jepler> csb: I think the steps are (in the terminal, as root) 'mkdir /media/share' and then change /etc/fstab so the second field is /media/share instead of just /share
[01:46] <erisco> mwe, they are very vague with that
[01:46] <erisco> mwe, thanks again I cannot express how much I appreciate your help
[01:46] <csb> pixelfairy: it is there, but there is nothing in the directory
[01:46] <csb> it's empty
[01:46] <pixelfairy> sounds liek the filesystem is in place
[01:46] <csb> oh ok got it
[01:46] <erisco> mwe, I am not as illiterate as i sound ;)
[01:46] <pixelfairy> if its really mounted
[01:47] <pixelfairy> mount will tell you
[01:47] <erisco> mew, must be going now though. see you again.
[01:47] <jepler> you might have to 'mount /media/share' and make sure it's not mounted at /share too
[01:47] <bz0b> how do i get my sound to work?
[01:47] <ELpH95o> for aruetime
[01:47] <eugman> This forum requires that you wait 15 seconds between searches. Please try again in 9310 seconds.
[01:47] <eugman> haha
[01:47] <cafuego> Earth calling planet ELpH95o. Did you have any Ubuntu related questions?
[01:47] <ashyg> This isn't ubuntu related but all of a sudden my LCD monitor stopped working
[01:48] <ashyg> all connections are secured
[01:48] <ashyg> however nothing appears on the digital input
[01:48] <csb> if i change my fstab file, can i logoff/logon to see the changes? or do i need to reboot?
[01:48] <cafuego> ashyg: Is it on?
[01:48] <fangorious> anyone using dapper?
[01:48] <cafuego> fangorious: Probably.
[01:48] <ashyg> cafuego: yes
[01:48] <cafuego> ashyg: (just checking ;-)
[01:48] <ashyg> cafuego: the analog input works however NOT the digital
[01:48] <IorGie> csb: just moun -a
[01:48] <twysted> csb> they take place right away though youd have to manually mount until your reboot
[01:48] <bz0b> cafuego: do you know how to setup my sound? i just installed a server install of ubuntu then did a xubuntu-desktop package install, to have a gui, but i have no sound, can you assist me?
[01:48] <jepler> csb: IorGie means 'mount -a'
[01:49] <fangorious> does nautilus-sendto 0.5 in dapper include bluetooth?
[01:49] <jepler> is there a correct way to change my window manager from the default to icewm?
[01:49] <mint> i hear there is this thing called root, anyone ever heard of it...
[01:49] <csb> also, should the fstab say "umask=000" or "umask=OOOO"
[01:49] <cafuego> bz0b: Do you have a sound server running?
[01:49] <bz0b> not sure
[01:49] <jepler> csb: use zero (0) not oh (O).
[01:49] <bz0b> cafuego: how can i see that?
[01:49] <csb> i mean sero
[01:49] <csb> zero
[01:49] <cafuego> bz0b: 'ps aux | grep esd'
[01:49] <eightiesk> !Guifications
[01:49] <ubotu> eightiesk: I don't know, could you explain it?
[01:49] <mint> any ibm employees in here by any chance
[01:49] <jepler> csb: umask=000 and umask=0000 mean the same thing.
[01:50] <csb> oh ok
[01:50] <eightiesk> ???
[01:50] <csb> thanks
[01:50] <eightiesk> ne 1 know how to install Guifications?
[01:51] <cafuego> I don't think 'ne 1' is online at the moment.
[01:51] <bz0b> bz0b@ubuntu:~$ ps aux | grep esd
[01:51] <bz0b> bz0b     10414  0.0  0.0   4136   844 pts/1    R+   16:51   0:00 grep esd
[01:51] <timfrost> !info gaim-guifications
[01:51] <ubotu> gaim-guifications: (toaster popups for gaim), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2.12-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 133 kB, Installed size: 844 kB
[01:51] <mshade> !gcc
[01:51] <ubotu> I guess gcc is the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.  You can install gcc with 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[01:51] <|PecK|> night all, thx a lot
[01:51] <cafuego> bz0b: We'll take that as a no then :-)
[01:52] <eightiesk> !gaim-guifications
[01:52] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens!, eightiesk
[01:52] <eightiesk> k
[01:52] <navarone> Hello folks, I jsut replaced old serial mouse with a new Logitech ps/2 mouse  My mouse section from xorg is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7551    Could someone take a look and tell me what to add to get the scrollwheel to work? So far the thing is fine but would not mind the scrolling to work.
[01:52] <bz0b> cafuego: how do i start my sound server?
[01:52] <timfrost> eightiesk, apt-get install gaim-guifications
[01:52] <ubuntu_> can someone help me to put an image on hda?
[01:52] <cafuego> bz0b: ry running 'esd -terminate -nobeeps -as 5'
[01:52] <dirtbiker> yo, i'm new to linux
[01:52] <jepler> navarone: try "IMPS/2" instead of "PS/2".
[01:53] <cafuego> bz0b: That should start the sound sevrer, after which any sound apps configured to use esound should work.
[01:53] <ubuntu_> i cd'ed to my usb drive and to the folder but I can't get dd to work.
[01:53] <tklich> anybody familiar with ndiswrapper?
[01:53] <navarone> jepler will I have to add Emulate three buttons ?
[01:53] <bz0b> cafuego: it left me with a >
[01:53] <cafuego> tklich: sadly, yes. Though as of yesterday I rm -rf'd it.
[01:53] <ubuntu_> can i just use ghost on my pc to image the drive and then put it back in my laptop?
[01:53] <tklich> when i do ndiswrapper -l it says the hardware is found but i dont see a wlan device when i use iwconfig
[01:53] <cafuego> bz0b: Don't enter the quotes.
[01:53] <keherman> Anyone know what file holds the System->Preferences->Sound->System Bell-Sound an audible bell option?
[01:53] <bz0b> cafuego: yeah got it
[01:53] <navarone> jepler I was going to do that but thought perhaps it was for wireless
[01:53] <casey> hello
[01:54] <daaaman64> where can I find more login screens????
[01:54] <dirtbiker> how do i install packages or konw a good guide?
[01:54] <ubuntu_> i can't find any answer to my question and it is making me crazy.  I have done everything that is suggested on the web.
[01:54] <kevman> Man Ubuntu for ppc sucks.
[01:54] <jepler> navarone: With a "scroll mouse" you generally activate the middle button by pressing down on the wheel.  "emulate 3 buttons" isn't necessary
[01:54] <dirtbiker> how do i install packages or konw a good guide?
[01:54] <cafuego> tklich: 'ndiswrapper -l' only shows you the CONFIG file. Did you actually run 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper' as well?
[01:54] <ubuntu_> nothing  works
[01:54] <fangorious> is there a gnome web browser that integrates with gnome-keyring (or a way to get firefox to use it)/
[01:54] <pianoboy3333> does anyone here use webmin?
[01:54] <casey> I'm new to linux and i was wandering how to use get-app
[01:54] <fangorious> casey: you mean apt-get?
[01:54] <navarone> jepler so IMPS/2 is all I need
[01:54] <casey> yep
[01:54] <jepler> navarone: yes, I think so.
[01:54] <tklich> cafuego, yes
[01:54] <mcphail> casey: synaptic is easier
[01:54] <navarone> Ok will try
[01:54] <casey> (i'm 12)
[01:54] <tklich> cafeugo, no errors
[01:55] <bz0b> cafuego: so now how do i test that
[01:55] <bz0b> hmm
[01:55] <eightiesk> ne1 know how i might install a theme to it?
[01:55] <csb> hey guys thanks, i rebooted and everything is cool
[01:55] <zandaa> hi everyone:P
[01:55] <eightiesk> i made on in wiindows/
[01:55] <fangorious> casey: synaptic is a pretty good gui. From the System menu go to Administration, then select Synaptic
[01:55] <cafuego> tklich: Does a wlan0 show up in 'ifconfig -a' ?
[01:55] <dirtbiker> does synaptic install packages?
[01:55] <cafuego> dirtbiker: yes
[01:55] <IorGie> dirtbiker: yes
[01:55] <daaaman64> where might I find other ubuntu themes and login screens?
[01:55] <eightiesk> timfrost, how do i install themes 2 it
[01:55] <bz0b> cafuego: nvm my sound works, cuase i hear it on gaim
[01:55] <tklich> cafuego, no
[01:55] <cafuego> daaaman64: art.gnome.org / art.ubuntu.com
[01:55] <casey> k
[01:55] <navarone> jepler require a reboot or just x restart?
[01:56] <jepler> casey: do you mean 'apt-get'?  If so, the easiest way is to choose "System > Administration > Add Applications" from the menu at the top of the screen.  It's a graphical interface to apt-get, which can download and install new software.
[01:56] <bz0b> cafuego: but how do i leave it running
[01:56] <daaaman64> thank you very much!!!!!!!
[01:56] <jepler> navarone: An X restart should probably do it
[01:56] <navarone> okie...brb
[01:56] <kevman> Has anyone got Java or Flash working under Powerpc?
[01:56] <cafuego> tklich: Does 'dmesg' give you any message about ndiswrapper at all?
[01:56] <fangorious> casey: you will have to be a member of the adm group, and enter your password to launc synaptic. the default view gives you package categories on the left, packages in the selected category on the top-right pane, and description of the selected package in the bottom-right pane
[01:56] <cafuego> kevman: Java yes, Flash no.
[01:56] <zandaa> cafuego, a wlan adaptor can sometimes also be reffered to as ra0 (if you have a ralink chipset wlan card)
[01:56] <pianoboy3333> anyone here use webmin?
[01:56] <kevman> How did you do it, cafuego?
[01:56] <cafuego> kevman: You can beat Macromedia over the head for thair lack of decent support.
[01:56] <tklich> cafuego, where is dmesg?
[01:56] <fangorious> casey: you can update the ilst of available packages with the "Reload" button
[01:57] <cafuego> kevman: IBM have a beta 1.5 jre/jdk.
[01:57] <cafuego> tklich: dmesg is a command, run it.
[01:57] <cafuego> zandaa: Unlikely with ndiswrapper.
[01:57] <casey> thx
[01:57] <zandaa> cafuego, ah ok.. I see
[01:57] <fangorious> casey: right-click on a package in the top-right pane to get a menu of appropriate actions. after you've made your selections, hit apply. it will resolve dependencies for you as you make selections for installing and uninstalling
[01:58] <kevman> cafuego, when I tried to install that, I can run ./java -version from the /opt point, but I whenever I try to run java --version, I get a file not found error.
[01:58] <tklich> cafuego, i have two drivers and it says one loaded with the hardware present and the other failed, how do i remove the failed one
[01:58] <cafuego> kevman: Did you symlink it or did you edit the $PATH ?
[01:58] <mcphail> cafuego: will it show up in ifconfig before an entry is made in /etc/network/interfaces?
[01:58] <casey> k i'm trying to install a update to java
[01:58] <cafuego> mcphail: Of course.
[01:58] <pianoboy3333> can someone help me setup webmin?
[01:58] <kevman> No, the HOWTO doesn't say to. It says to use Alternatives or something.
[01:59] <cafuego> mcphail: ifconfig querie the kernel for loaded drivers, interfaces is just a config file
[01:59] <Cyorxamp> Hey I installed the ati drivers using easyubuntu... anyone know how I can get my monitors working seperately (i.e. not displaying the same thing) ?
[01:59] <cafuego> kevman: Yes, that's a symlink :-)
[01:59] <ilba7r> is there a how to on setting dual monitors?
[01:59] <pianoboy3333>
[01:59] <pianoboy3333> can someone help me setup webmin?
[01:59] <kevman> Well, then, that doesn't work, cafuego...
[01:59] <twysted> pianoboy3333> sudo apt-get install webmin
[02:00] <kevman> I still get java: file not found
[02:00] <mcphail> cafuego: hmmm - so if you ifdown something, will it show on ifconfig?
[02:00] <cafuego> tklich: 'ndiswrapper -h' - there's probably a -r or -e option.
[02:00] <eightiesk> how do i install KDE themes?
[02:00] <pianoboy3333> twsted: i did that, what do you do to open it/run it
[02:00] <jepler> mcphail: interfaces that aren't "up" don't show unless you run "ifconfig -a".
[02:00] <cafuego> mcphail: No, but it WILL on 'ifconfig -a'. By default, ifconfig only shows configured interfaces.
[02:00] <pianoboy3333> *twysted*: i did that, what do you do to open it/run it
[02:00] <cafuego> s/configured/active/
[02:00] <TheRabbit> Is there a good GBA Emulator for linux, I can't seem to find one on the synaptic package manager
 https://localhost:10000
[02:00] <mcphail> jepler: cafuego: that explains my confusion
[02:01] <twysted> or port 1000 i cant remember
[02:01] <zandaa> TheRabbit, I think you may want to take a look at Visualboy Advance (not on repos)
[02:01] <navarone> jepler...no ill effects but still no scroll
[02:01] <pianoboy3333> twysted: put that in the terminal?
[02:01] <daaaman64_> ok, what are my chances of changing the loading ubuntu screen when I first boot?????
[02:01] <Cyorxamp> Hey I installed the ati drivers using easyubuntu... anyone know how I can get my monitors working seperately (i.e. not displaying the same thing) ?
[02:01] <twysted> pianoboy3333> webbrowser
[02:01] <cafuego> daaaman64_: Not great
[02:01] <jepler> navarone: I'm sorry to hear that.  My only ubuntu system is a laptop with a scroll wheel, so I don't think its X configuration is going to be very helpful to you.
[02:02] <daaaman64_> cafuego: really? I didnt think so.
[02:02] <MrRio> how do i get back the normal ubuntu usplash?
[02:02] <MrRio> (replaced by kubuntu)
[02:02] <daaaman64_> cafuego: really? I am remastering, and that would be kinda corny. :P
[02:02] <jepler> navarone: oh, you're probably missing this line:   Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
[02:02] <cafuego> daaaman64_: it requires processing of the graphic, instalaltion and kenrel-image reconfiguration.
[02:02] <pianoboy3333> twysted: then?
[02:02] <zandaa> MrRio, there was this thread somewhere about that, which had the original image and ways to restore/overwrite the current used one
[02:02] <zandaa> MrRio, I'll look up the thread for you
[02:03] <jepler> navarone: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7553
[02:03] <cafuego> MrRio: sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so
[02:03] <MrRio> zandaa, thanks :)
[02:03] <navarone> jepler...I think I have to add Option "Buttons" "5"  and Option "Zaxismapping" "4 5"
[02:03] <daaaman64_> cafuego: thanks for the help :)
[02:03] <pianoboy3333> twysted: then?
[02:03] <cafuego> MrRio: Then 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)'
[02:03] <cafuego> daaaman64_: So it's not a trivial task anyway. Certainly doable, but find a HOWTO somewhere :-)
[02:03] <zandaa> MrRio, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=82835
[02:03] <Cyorxamp> how do I get my dual monitors using a desktop each not the same one?
[02:03] <jepler> navarone: I'm not sure about "Buttons" "5"; if it doesn't work with it, try removing "Buttons" but leaving "ZAxisMapping".
[02:03] <pianoboy3333> ok...
[02:04] <tklich> cafeugo, ok i removed the failed driver and i ran dmesg and dont know what exactly i am looking for...It does say loadndiswrapper failed
[02:04] <zandaa> MrRio, that's the thread I used to change mine
[02:04] <cafuego> Cyorxamp: Enable Xinerama
[02:04] <Cyorxamp> cafuego, how?
[02:04] <navarone> I'll try Zaxis first...but I think it requires reboot each time...lol
[02:04] <navarone> brb
[02:04] <MrRio> cafuego, zandaa, cheers
[02:04] <cafuego> Cyorxamp: Google is your friend!
[02:04] <Cyorxamp> ilba7r, I think this is what you need as well... what cafuego is saying
[02:04] <zandaa> MrRio, no prob... that's what we're here for isn't it ;)
[02:04] <codeyman> my firefox opens mcdonalds.com automatically even though the homepage is different
[02:04] <Cyorxamp> you are not it would appear cauego
[02:05] <codeyman> ne1 has any idea why??
[02:05] <fangorious> codeyman: maybe you should feed it once in a while
[02:05] <_jason> fangorious: lol
[02:05] <MrRio> zandaa, :) should i copy the howto into the wiki, or are they best kept in the forums
[02:05] <_jason> codeyman: have you tried a different profile
[02:05] <codeyman> i tried
[02:05] <cafuego> Cyorxamp: You need to configore Xorg to have 2 screens ections, then lay them out properly and add Xinerama to the serverflags section.
[02:05] <ilba7r> Cyorxamp, i did it another way round
[02:05] <codeyman> but why is that stupid behavior
[02:05] <zandaa> MrRio, there are already things about this in Wiki, but this is only way I found working
[02:05] <tklich> would anybody know how to install the wpn111 usb wireless driver?
[02:05] <tklich> or is there one/
[02:05] <cafuego> Cyorxamp: Just helping you to help yourself. best way to learn.
[02:06] <Cyorxamp> ilba7r, care to share?
[02:06] <Cyorxamp> been at this all day!
[02:06] <_jason> codeyman: did it happen with the other profile?
[02:06] <MrRio> zandaa: ahh right, not under Usplash, i suppose if u were looking to chnage it, thats not what ud search for
[02:06] <codeyman> yup
[02:06] <_jason> codeyman: does chaning the homepage have any effect?
[02:07] <ilba7r> Cyorxamp, it is not perfect and have been on it all day too. I have ATi card. so installed fglrx and ran the configuration script
[02:07] <codeyman> nope
[02:07] <_jason> codeyman: wtf
[02:07] <codeyman> it still pops up mcdonalds
[02:07] <_jason> codeyman: was it a fresh profile? (no extensions etc)
[02:07] <codeyman> yup
[02:07] <fangorious> codeyman: are you launching firefox by clicking on a link to mcdonalds.com in a document?
[02:07] <codeyman> i just got ubuntu breezy
[02:07] <Cyorxamp> ilba7r, I used easyubuntu to install fglrx and it told me to just select fglrx on the config screens and alter nothing else - kind of wondering if that was the best idea :S
[02:07] <ilba7r> cafuego, any idea why fglrx will give scrambled image running gdmflexiserver on my notebook
[02:08] <ashyg> please help
[02:08] <codeyman> fangorious::haha no
[02:08] <ashyg> my digital input on my monitor stopped working all of a sudden
[02:08] <navarone> ok jepler that worked fine thanks for the help
[02:08] <cafuego> ilba7r: Short of "ATI are evil", no :-(
[02:08] <ashyg> i reversed the cable and tried both DVI outs on my video card, neither work on the monitor
[02:08] <ashyg> i have another monitor that works fine however
[02:08] <bz0b> for a home desktop with a 64 bit processor would you recommend running i386 version or 64 bit version?
[02:08] <ilba7r> Cyorxamp, i ended up copying some of the old configuration and the new configuration so that is why i said it is dirty
[02:08] <ashyg> yet the monitor is good because my xbox works fine on it still
[02:08] <cafuego> bz0b: i386
[02:08] <bz0b> and if i386, is there a way to go to i386 without reformatting?
[02:08] <cafuego> bz0b: amd64 isn't quite there yet.
[02:08] <fangorious> codeyman: after the browser is up, if you click on the 'home' button does it load the right homepage?
[02:09] <codeyman> yes
[02:09] <bz0b> cafuego: can i just like install the kernel and reboot?
[02:09] <TheRabbit> So I'm trying to extract the visual boy advanced files and it says "Destination does not exist do you want to create?" and I say yes and it says "Could not creat folder:  File exists."  I don't understand
[02:09] <_jason> codeyman: what if you run 'firefox' from a terminal
[02:09] <zandaa> cafuego, I've noticed that.... <_< I feel screwed over with my 64bit system which wont run 32bit ubuntu
[02:09] <ilba7r> cafuego, :) agree. It is just work with my external monitor but not my laptop. Am starting to think there is something wrong with tty8
[02:09] <cafuego> bz0b: Boot the i386 cd, mount /, delete EVERYTHING except /home (and maybe backup /etc) - then install WITHOUT formatting. /home - and thus your files & settings - should be preserved.
[02:09] <codeyman> same effect
[02:10] <cafuego> zandaa: Eh?
[02:10] <Cyorxamp> can anyone offer a resource that can explain the xorg.conf file as a breakdown? not just what goes where but what some of the terms mean?
[02:10] <zandaa> cafuego, that was to your comment about amd64 version of ubuntu not being quite there yet
[02:10] <codeyman> it has the same effect as any damn adware on windows
[02:10] <navarone> cafuego will that work without a seperate /home partition ?
[02:10] <cafuego> navarone: Provided you don't format, sure.
[02:10] <jclinton> anyone know how to connect to another CUPS server other than localhost:631???  Than copy the portions with the monitors to my old xorg.conf. Other than that my mouse and keyboard were messed up
[02:11] <cafuego> zandaa: Some elements (flash, java, video) that desktop users want don't quite work the way they should (or at all) on amd64.
[02:11] <_jason> codeyman: grep mcdonalds `which firefox`
[02:11] <dirtbiker> how do i add a package, i downloaded, to synaptic?
[02:11] <zandaa> cafuego, though there's plenty of tricks to work around those limits ;)
[02:11] <codeyman> hmmm will try it
[02:11] <ELpH95o> Io jad ,u semsot ,bs imopr,s//tje cps kbremtkereu wca,e jeramd watms tp ,epit
[02:11] <Cyorxamp> ilba7r, and fglrxconfig can setup more than one monitor?
[02:11] <cafuego> zandaa: But then, ANY non-Opteron (why would a desktop need an opteron?) can run i386 anyway.
[02:12] <zandaa> cafuego, well... my Athlon 64 says otherwise
[02:12] <cafuego> zandaa: I need to use my amchine, not work around issues, no time for such nonsense.
[02:12] <ilba7r> Cyorxamp, but it will mess the rest of your configuration. Short answer yes though
[02:12] <navarone> ilba7r, I had same prob with reconfigure...it made more probs when all I wanted was to get mouse functional. I just edit appropriate section in xorg now if possible
[02:12] <ELpH95o> ive been there
[02:12] <fangorious> codeyman: have you tried killing firefox, renaming ~/.mozilla/ to ~/.mozilla-old/ and restarting firefox?
[02:12] <cafuego> zandaa: What cpu is it, specifically?
[02:12] <ELpH95o> and onlu adults on tautobah
[02:12] <dirtbiker> how do i add a package, i downloaded, to synaptic?
[02:12] <Cyorxamp> ilba7r, well I am doing what you have done - keep a backup and mix them together
[02:12] <zandaa> cafuego, a socket 939 AMD Athlon64 3000+
[02:12] <_jason> dirtbiker: what package
[02:12] <cafuego> zandaa: There's no reason why that wouldn't run i386.
[02:13] <zandaa> cafuego, well... I don't know why but it just doesn't.... I hate my system sometimes
[02:13] <ilba7r> navarone it is just that it needs to much time. and to tinker it right.. fff i just do not have that time on hand now
[02:13] <cafuego> zandaa: Checked for BIOS updates lately?
[02:13] <zandaa> cafuego, BIOS up to date
[02:13] <cucumber3333> Can someone help me? I downloaded webmin, but in the terminal 'webmin' doesn't open the program.
[02:13] <cafuego> Umculiar. Busted i386 CD?
[02:14] <navarone> ilba7r, I find it is too global in it's thinking...would be nice if you could go thru process and leave things as they are if you want and only mess with the problem you want to fix
[02:14] <zandaa> cafuego, whatever I tried... from booting the LiveCD to a permanent install of a i386 ubuntu, it didn't work
[02:14] <jepler> cucumber3333: strange, some other guy with "3333" in his name from an "optonline.net" address was just asking about that.
[02:14] <dirtbiker> the nvidia driver and linrar package
[02:15] <cafuego> zandaa: Well, those boxen get sold with WinXP preinstalled by the thousands, so they have no problems running 32bit code <heh>
[02:15] <jepler> cucumber3333: I think nobody here right now knows anything about webmin, that other guy seems to have left.
[02:15] <ashyg> how do i configure Ubuntu to use my Linksys USB200M Wired USB Ethernet Adaptor?
[02:15] <timfrost> jclinton, 1: on the machine the printer is attached to, change the "listen localhost:631" to "port 631" then restart cups.  Then on the other PC(s), select "Network Printer (CUPS) and  URI "ipp://<IP>/printers/<name>"
[02:15] <dirtbiker> the tar.gz files
[02:15] <cucumber3333> jepler: i just logged back into xchat, i was pianoboy3333, someone took it while i was gone
[02:15] <zandaa> cafuego, this system's built by my own 2 hands, and it does run the 32bit-winxp... so I dunno
[02:15] <ilba7r> navarone, i totally agree. Do not know why i had to set again mouse, keyboard when all i want was to set dual monitors
[02:15] <jepler> cucumber3333: oh.  weird.  sorry for the mixup.
[02:15] <cucumber3333> jepler: kk
[02:15] <dirtbiker> sorry pkg1.run
[02:16] <cafuego> zandaa: How does Linux not work? Where does it fail?
[02:16] <zandaa> cafuego, it downright does not boot the kernel
[02:16] <benkong2> i have wireless problems iwconfig shows eth1 and eth0 as wireless but they will not get an ip address. what's wrong?
[02:16] <cafuego> zandaa: Very very weird. Tried dapper flight3?
[02:16] <navarone> zandaa did you try live cd and see if it would work?
[02:16] <zandaa> navarone, yes
[02:16] <benkong2> eth0 is not listed in /etc/network/interfaces eth2 is
[02:17] <zandaa> cafuego, I haven't tried dapper3, I wouldn't even know where to get it
[02:17] <cafuego> zandaa: Well, THAT I can help you with.
[02:17] <cafuego> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-3/
[02:17] <ashyg> I can't sudo in Ubuntu, I try to and it says "sudo: unable to lookup me via gethostbyname()"
[02:17] <navarone> Is dapper gonna be aethetically different from Breezy?
[02:17] <cafuego> navarone: A little bit.
[02:18] <zandaa> cafuego, thanks... I'll burn it to CD and give it a try ;)
[02:18] <ilba7r> !tell navarone about dapper drake
[02:18] <cafuego> navarone: For instance, it has a butt-ugly logout/shutdown dialog.
[02:18] <tklich> cafuego,  any ideas about that ndiswrapper?
[02:18] <zandaa> cafuego, but before that I'll try using the 32-breeze some more
[02:18] <ilba7r> navarone, check the dapper goals
[02:18] <keherman> Anyone know what files xset and setterm are modifying?
[02:18] <jepler> wow.  I think this is incredibly ugly: http://www.simplifiedcomplexity.com/images/screenshots/dapper/flight3/new-updates.png
[02:18] <cafuego> zandaa: flight3 seems to be working pretty well here. (2800+)
[02:18] <ilba7r> i thought the new udev is the major adv
[02:18] <navarone> ilba7r, I have no intention of installing it until released...lol I am not a masochist...<s>
[02:18] <zandaa> cafuego, ok... thx alot :D
[02:18] <dirtbiker> why does ubuntu tell me i dont have rights to my root folder
[02:19] <dirtbiker> i logged in with my user and pass
[02:19] <jepler> (and I'm not talking about the bad compositing, I'm talking about the use of a weird trapezoidal window)
[02:19] <ilba7r> navarone, just directing you to the goals no more no less. Am not gonna install till it is TTP
[02:19] <cafuego> dirtbiker: /root is owner by root, not your user account.
[02:19] <navarone> TTP=tried testd perfect? <s>
[02:19] <ilba7r> :)
[02:20] <cafuego> tklich: Which kernel you on?
[02:20] <benkong2> any wireless help available?
[02:20] <_jason> ubotu: tell dirtbiker about sudo
[02:20] <mcdenyer> do some of the newer sound cards has linux drivers ?
[02:20] <tklich> cafuego, the latest 2.6.12 (the lastest ubuntu one)
[02:20] <mcdenyer> have*
[02:20] <ashyg> How can I use apt-get without access to sudo?
[02:20] <cafuego> dirtbiker: Linux uses this permissions and ownership system to keep the system secure. (A normal user cannot mess up ANY system files).
[02:20] <cafuego> tklich: Hmmm...
[02:20] <_jason> ashyg: as root would be my guess
[02:20] <ashyg> i can't su root
[02:21] <jepler> mcdenyer: The last few systems I've purchased (with integrated sound on the motherboard) have all worked just fine on Linux (Fedora and Ubuntu) without hassle, with the exception of one Compaq laptop.
[02:21] <_jason> ashyg: then you can't use apt-get
[02:21] <ELpH95o>  wiw as j/ik
[02:21] <jepler> mcdenyer: I don't know about add-on cards, though.
[02:21] <cafuego> tklich: maybe start from scratch, remove all drivers from ndiswapper.. then try again.
[02:21] <navarone> ashyg you use sudo to do root tasks
[02:21] <ashyg> navarone: sudo doesn't work
[02:21] <joedj> anyone know what package the headers for imagemagick are in? i had assumed imagemagick-dev, but that doesn't exist...
[02:21] <ashyg> i told you already
[02:21] <ashyg> it says
[02:21] <jclinton> anyone know how to connect to another CUPS server other than localhost:631??? I need to do that so i can get my network printers....
[02:21] <mcdenyer> jepler i cant get my surround sound to wrk
[02:21] <cafuego> ashyg: Boot into Rescue mode, fix /etc/hosts (did you remove 'localhost' by any chance?)
[02:21] <tklich> cafuego, i read something here but i dont understand it http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List
[02:21] <ashyg> "sudo: unable to lookup me via gethostbyname()"
[02:22] <tklich> cafuego, the wpn111 device
[02:22] <mcdenyer> can someone help me set up surround sound?
[02:22] <zandaa> cafuego, thx for the link to DD download... I'll try downing it tomorrow, gonna get some sleep now
[02:22] <_jason> ashyg: you need to add you hostname to /etc/hosts
[02:22] <bennybtl> hello, I have a question about installing a printer.  I'm wondering if anyone can point me to a resource, etc.  I'm using an Epson CX4600.
[02:22] <Cyorxamp> Hey I am going though this xorg.conf thing - what is Quad Buffer Sterero?
[02:22] <jepler> mcdenyer: I also haven't used more than stereo sound
[02:22] <ashyg> _jason: i can't vi /etc/hosts
[02:22] <navarone> ashyg is "me" the user your are trying to sudo with? And if yes...is "me" the user you created on install?
[02:22] <ashyg> no, me is my hostname
[02:22] <navarone> ok
[02:22] <_jason> ashyg: use recovery mode or load with a livecd
[02:22] <zandaa> g'night all
[02:23] <ashyg> god damnit why is linux so broken :[
[02:23] <zandaa> ashyg, it isn't borken
[02:23] <zandaa> *broken
[02:23] <_jason> ashyg: did you change your hostname/
[02:23] <ashyg> it never seems to work :p
[02:23] <Cyorxamp> Quad Buffer Stereo anyone?
[02:23] <ashyg> _jason: no
[02:23] <zandaa> ashyg, it's just complicated
[02:23] <ashyg> and broken
[02:23] <zandaa> <_<
[02:23] <ashyg> anyways i gotta go
[02:23] <ashyg> mandatory event
[02:23] <zandaa> well, later guys
[02:23] <cafuego> tklich: Sounds like it needs ndiswrapper 1.5 or newer. not the 1.1 that comes with breezy :-(
[02:23] <ashyg> looks like my assignment isn
[02:23] <ashyg> isn't getting turned in
[02:23] <Andrew[CS] > wut the hell
[02:23] <ubuntuking> hello all
[02:24] <anavim> hello
[02:24] <regeya_> howdy.
[02:24] <Andrew[CS] > what reasons do people get banned on this channel for?
[02:24] <Cyorxamp> does anyone know what this Quad Buffer Stereo thing is?
[02:24] <_jason> ashyg: you can use a livecd for that too
[02:24] <regeya> Andrew[CS] , excessively OT talk, abusive behavior, language...hm, I'm sure there are guidelines.
[02:24] <tklich> cafuego, i tried to compile that, but it didnt work
[02:25] <mcdenyer> _jason i need help setting up surround sound
[02:25] <regeya> also, wxMusik > *
[02:25] <navarone> Andrew[CS] , spamming/flooding/and being disruptive I would think
[02:25] <mcdenyer> _jason my sound plays but my back suround sound speakers dont work
[02:25] <_jason> mcdenyer: sorry, I have no experience withthat
[02:25] <mcdenyer> _jason ok
[02:25] <bimberi> ashyg: boot into recovery mode and ensure that /etc/hosts has a line with "<IP_ADDRESS> localhost.localdomain localhost <yourhostname>"
[02:25] <Cyorxamp> Quad Buffer Stereo - its mentioned in the FireGL Display Settings section of xorg.conf - what is it?
[02:26] <Andrew[CS] > who bans people?
[02:26] <navarone> Andrew[CS] , the ops
[02:26] <Andrew[CS] > ok....
[02:26] <regeya> Andrew[CS] , http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/
[02:27] <Andrew[CS] > whats the command to get to the detection thing?
[02:27] <ELpH95o> theyre trying to ban scigaretes by sellling and taxo thc
[02:27] <navarone> detection thing?
[02:27] <ELpH95o> ya
[02:28] <regeya> ELpH95o, what are you on about...
[02:28] <Andrew[CS] > ya... like to auto-detect video settings/drives etc
[02:28] <Andrew[CS] > its like x-org or somthing?
[02:28] <Andrew[CS] > i forget
[02:28] <bimberi> !xorg
[02:28] <ubotu> xorg is probably to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[02:28] <Andrew[CS] > thanks, that could be it
[02:28] <CanYouHelpMePlz> !skype
[02:28] <ubotu> skype is, like, totally, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[02:29] <anavim> is it possible to see what my irc traffic looks like over the network with tcpdump?
[02:29] <Aaron_Mason> hey all
[02:30] <CanYouHelpMePlz> should i downloaded the debian .deb or turn an rpm into a .deb ?
[02:30] <bimberi> CanYouHelpMePlz: no, get the seveas deb (the 2nd link in that factoid)
[02:30] <lysis> hey guys i'm having a really hard time trying to get my widescreen monitor working with ubuntu.  i've reinstalled ubuntu 3 times today, edited xorg by hand, installed ati's official drivers AND installed fglrx the way it's listed in the wiki.  can ANYBODY help me?  my res is supposed to be 1440x900.  it mirrors the left and right side to each other.
[02:32] <TheRabbit> Am I supposed to use terminal to extract tar.gz files?
[02:33] <bimberi> TheRabbit: you can, or use Applications -> Accessories -> Archive Manager
[02:33] <Cyorxamp> does the normal firefox icon come with ubuntu?
[02:33] <Cyorxamp> I don't like this 'Deer Park' style one
[02:37] <C_J_Pro> ls sabdfl
[02:38] <D4m4ge> hello
[02:38] -lilo(i=levin@freenode/staff/pdpc.levin)- [Server Notice]  Hi all. We're experiencing hardware errors on the machine you're on, niven.freenode.net, and will be shutting it down in about 15 minutes. Please *immediately* disconnect and reconnect to chat.freenode.net .... apologies for the inconvenience, and thank you for your help.
[02:39] <regeya> wow...openbox is amazingly simple to work with. :-}  /me modifies misted obox theme to go with clearlooks-executive, ten seconds later switches to it...nice
[02:39] <xored> how to mount a CD iso, a *..bin file in ubuntu ?
[02:40] <regeya> from memory, xored, though I could be wrong... mount -t iso966o -o loop blah.iso /mnt/point
[02:40] <D4m4ge> I have an issue installing the ATI driver
[02:40] <ubuntuking> is it a movie
[02:41] <D4m4ge> it says i need libstdc++5
[02:41] <D4m4ge> but when i do apt-get install  libstdc++5 it says it cant
[02:41] <^devil^> how do i retake the hwdb test? it failed the first time but it wasnt ubuntu's fault as i were under vmware
[02:41] <D4m4ge> :/
[02:42] <Cyorxamp> ok when setting up dual monitors with the fglrxconfig - when it talks about screen 1 and 0... is 0 the one which a login box will prefer or 1?
[02:42] <Aaron_Mason> is it just me, or is sf.net really slow when trying to access the project pages?
[02:42] <dm> HELP !!! lol i tried to instal the new ATI 8.21.7 on dapper and wrecked my X !! cant load into ubuntu without my screen looking like its "melting colors"
[02:42] <ubuntuking> D4m4ge, open up synaptic and search for it it should be there
[02:42] <ictyl> is this the right place to ask about a possible bug in dapper?
[02:43] <D4m4ge> ok thx ubuntuking
[02:43] <ubuntuking> D4m4ge, np
[02:43] <ictyl> I've been having trouble with DVDs since upgrading to dapper. At first I though it was libdvdcss or something, but it turns out, there are errors reading the files at all.
[02:43] <dm> Anyone help me with my new ATI driver problem?>
[02:44] <kat> how come when i download mp3s off of music.download.com the totem player or rhythmbox says i cant not stream the file
[02:44] <kat> is there a package i can download so i can listen to the music i get off of sites
[02:44] <eightiesk> !ymessenger
[02:44] <ubotu> eightiesk: What?
[02:45] <ilba7r> ok it is a dam fglrx bug. and it is not open source so no way to fix it
[02:45] <die-Sel> anyone wanna give me a hand with samba, its nothing big, its working but i know der is like 1 stupid setting not correct.
[02:45] <eightiesk> !yahoomessenger
[02:45] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, eightiesk
[02:45] <ictyl> I have a firewire dvd-rw drive which worked under breezy. When I mount a dvd and try to do something as simple as 'find /media/dvd | xargs md5sum', I get io errors.
[02:45] <D4m4ge> cool it worked :)
[02:45] <ilba7r> eightiesk, just download it from yahoo website
[02:46] <eightiesk> it errored though.
[02:46] <ilba7r> eightiesk, what errored. the bin source files from yahoo
[02:47] <dm> Anyone here that knows the command to FORCE a removal and uinstall from a package??????
[02:48] <eightiesk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7555
[02:49] <SnOw_MaN> I need help
[02:49] <dm> me too
[02:49] <dm> :P
[02:49] <dm>  hehe
[02:49] <SnOw_MaN> :(
[02:49] <ilba7r> eightiesk, you just need to install the depending packages. after that all will be well
[02:49] <SnOw_MaN> with what? =)
[02:49] <dm> but no one knows anything about my problem
[02:49] <SnOw_MaN> dm, what is your problem then? =)
[02:49] <ilba7r> dm sudo aptitude purge <package name>
[02:50] <SnOw_MaN> Any one who know where i can find cedega? =)
[02:50] <dm> google it
[02:50] <hybrid> SnOw_MaN: google is a life svaer
[02:50] <SnOw_MaN> dm, cant find it there =(
[02:50] <SnOw_MaN> hybrid, i cant find it there =(
[02:51] <ilba7r> !tell SnOw_MaN about cedega
[02:51] <ilba7r> SnOw_MaN, follow ubotu links. you should also try the forums i have seen multiple threads on it there
[02:51] <dm> ilba7r its not working
[02:52] <lysis> hey guys i'm having a really hard time trying to get my widescreen monitor working with ubuntu.  i've reinstalled ubuntu 3 times today, edited xorg by hand, installed ati's official drivers AND installed fglrx the way it's listed in the wiki.  can ANYBODY help me?  my res is supposed to be 1440x900.  it mirrors the left and right side to each other.
[02:52] <ilba7r> dm what package you wana remove and how did you install it
[02:52] <dm> ilba7r fglrx package, installed it through dpkg -i
[02:52] <SnOw_MaN> dm, do you want to remove something? =)
[02:52] <ilba7r> dm and what error you get when you uninstall it
[02:53] <ilba7r> dam fglrx and ati drives
[02:53] <MrRio> lysis, what chipset do u have, is it a laptop?
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[02:53] <kbrooks> $ fgfs
[02:53] <kbrooks> freeglut (fgfs): OpenGL GLX extension not supported by display ':0.0'
[02:53] <SnOw_MaN> dm, synaptic? =)
[02:53] <kbrooks> why?
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