[09:55] <RichJ> did the dpkg-reconfigure, and that has changed big time in edgy
[09:56] <RichJ> there are some messages that are way to informative i think
[09:56] <abattoir> RichJ: nothing about fonts ?
[09:56] <RichJ> i didnt' notice
[09:56] <MilhousePunkRock> I could have recommended that... KPowersave doesn't help my with my buggy video chip, digitalslacker
[09:56] <link_36p> Does anyone know why my "super" key might now be working?
[09:57] <dlissner> raph it just goes back to normal
[09:57] <Healot> super key? what super key, link_36p?
[09:57] <raphink> dlissner: ah
[09:57] <abattoir> Healot: i think he means the windows key
[09:57] <digitalslacker> MilhousePunkRock: oh, what are you trying to do?
[09:58] <dlissner> is it because of driver support or something?
[09:58] <link_36p> I was calling it the super key because thats how compiz refered to it.
[09:58] <dlissner> in windows i run at a lot higher res.
[09:58] <MilhousePunkRock> Getting suspend to work, digitalslacker
[09:58] <MilhousePunkRock> I already tried a different kernel, but the bug is not solved there...
[09:59] <link_36p> Im using a logitech USB keyboard.
[09:59] <kral> good morning all
[10:00] <digitalslacker> MilhousePunkRock: to my understanding, suspend functionality is buggy in Linux or at least some distros. Not sure why though
[10:00] <dlissner> uh heh what is the deal.
[10:00] <kral> I have a problem in installing kubuntu, can someone help me_
[10:00] <MilhousePunkRock> digitalslacker: Indeed...
[10:00] <dlissner> i don't think linux is for me
[10:01] <kosh> dlissner: what is the deal with what?
[10:01] <aegeanlinux> MilhousePunkRock: So, from what I read ^^ above, you havn't had much luck then ?
[10:01] <kosh> dlissner: since most of us are not psychic unless you say what your problem is you are unlikely to get help
[10:02] <MilhousePunkRock> aegeanlinux: I am still on it
[10:02] <aegeanlinux> MilhousePunkRock: Don't give up - and when you work it out , email me step-by-step how you did it ; )
[10:02] <dlissner> kosh
[10:03] <kral> when I start to install kubuntu I reach step 3 (choose keyboard layout) and I can't choose because I have an empty list, and there is no way to pass this step... what should I do?
[10:03] <cfraz89> kral: it sounds a little like your cd might be corrupted :)
[10:04] <kral> I made the cd test, and I passed it
[10:04] <aegeanlinux> kral: screaming loudly and banging your head against the wall might help ... if that doesn't work, try it on another machine, and if that doesn'\t work, I think you might need a new CD
[10:04] <MilhousePunkRock> aegeanlinux: I figured out it's a bug with my video driver yesterday
[10:04] <aegeanlinux> Coolies, what driver do you use MilhousePunkRock?
[10:04] <kosh> dlissner: well just saying my name won't tell me what your problem is
[10:04] <kral> I tried even on another machine... and it worked...
[10:04] <MilhousePunkRock> savage, aegeanlinux
[10:04] <cfraz89> hmm
[10:05] <kral> can I send you a screenshot of the problem?
[10:05] <cfraz89> sure
[10:05] <aegeanlinux> I see.
[10:05] <cfraz89> i think i understand what is wrong though
[10:05] <kral> thank you
[10:05] <cfraz89> kral: did you try the alternate cd?
[10:05] <cfraz89> its harder to use, but tends to work more oftern :)
[10:05] <aegeanlinux> MilhousePunkRock: IMHO, the best (open source'd code) chip is SIS
[10:05] <Healot> sis?
[10:05] <aegeanlinux> yeah
[10:06] <Healot> VIA imho
[10:06] <MilhousePunkRock> if you look at http://thinkwiki.org locate the T23 and look at the page for the savage chip, it tells about the bug all the way down to the bottom
[10:06] <kral> I didn't know about an alternate cd
[10:06] <Healot> via nic, via, south bridge, ac97, via's SATA controllers, etc...
[10:06] <aegeanlinux> How is VIA's openGL Healot?
[10:07] <cfraz89> kral: its the older text-based installer
[10:07] <Healot> via doesn't have graphics iirc
[10:07] <cfraz89> http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/6.06/
[10:07] <kral> cfraz89: that's what I prefear :) do you think I can have text based installer even with this cd?
[10:08] <cfraz89> kral: nope sorry. the livecd only has graphical installer, and the alternate cd only has text installer, no live mode
[10:09] <kral> this is my first time with kubuntu, I always used slackware, so I prefear text based installer :)
[10:09] <Healot> use the alternate install then
[10:09] <cfraz89> thats good. as long as your comfortable with the installer :)
[10:09] <Healot> the previous ubuntu versions used text installer btw
[10:09] <MilhousePunkRock> aegeanlinux: But I can't change the onboard video chip in my laptop easily, if at all
[10:10] <aegeanlinux> yeah, I know
[10:10] <kral> ok thank you a lot guys, I'll leave here (I need to go to my workplace for download the cd eheh)
[10:10] <aegeanlinux> your stuck with it :-D
[10:10] <dlissner> kosh: my problem is changing my screen resolution does nothing
[10:10] <aamor> anyone here using ubuntu for Mac?
[10:10] <aegeanlinux> Hey, while I am here, does anyone have an old ~15GB hard drive that they don't want anymore ? If so, please send me a PM ;)
[10:11] <kral> good bye all and thank you again for help
[10:11] <aamor> Anyone?
[10:11] <aegeanlinux> aamor: I have a friend who I gave the ship it live CD to, and he said he could not get it to boot past the KDE loading screen
[10:12] <aamor> I got it to work witht he Intel x86 LiveCD, cause I'm using an intel based mac, but when I install it on the drive it won't boot up at all
[10:12] <aamor> Gets stuck on something called Grub
[10:12] <aegeanlinux> Yeah? Grub is the boot program of *buntu
[10:12] <link_36p> Does anyone know a good GUI tool for keyboad configuration?
[10:12] <Healot> aamor: you need alternative bootloader "elilo"
[10:12] <aamor> elilo?
[10:13] <aamor> I see
[10:13] <Healot> btw EFI-based hardware won't properly boot from HFS partitions
[10:13] <digitalslacker> Firefox <IP_ADDRESS> was just released an hour or two ago, how long before the repos are updated with it?
[10:13] <aamor> I partitioned it in Fat32
[10:13] <Healot> well, on PPC Macs, that case is way easier...
[10:13] <Hawkwind> digitalslacker: Probably a while
[10:13] <aegeanlinux> digitalslacker: it was actually released ~5 days ago ;) On Sunday.
[10:13] <aamor> Yea, there's a buntu version for PPC macs
[10:14] <aamor> None for Intel Macs
[10:14] <Healot> yup, inmacs are new
[10:14] <macd_> freenode sure does take forever to pingout old nicks
[10:14] <Hawkwind> aegeanlinux: It just appeared on the site about 3 - 4 hours ago
[10:14] <Hawkwind> aegeanlinux: On mozilla.com that is
[10:14] <aamor> So I figured I'd use BootCamp to install it as I did with Windows, got so far as installing it, but Grub wouldn't install the second time
[10:14] <aegeanlinux> i know, but it has been out longer that
[10:14] <Healot> and intel or apple has no interest in gnu/linux for that new platform
[10:14] <aamor> First time I actually wiped my HD and installed it perfectly, but Grub wouldn't work
[10:15] <digitalslacker> aegeanlinux: my Windows PC just updated firefox about an hour ago and the release notes are dated for today
[10:15] <aegeanlinux> its to test for other ppl that there are n o showstoppers
[10:15] <aegeanlinux> digi
[10:15] <aamor> They do have some interest in GNU
[10:15] <aegeanlinux> * digitalslacker I put firefox <IP_ADDRESS> in my repos Tuesday ;)
[10:15] <dlissner> what are repos?
[10:15] <Healot> aamor: their interest has yet to shine...
[10:16] <digitalslacker> dlissner: repositories
[10:16] <aegeanlinux> When you download something in Adapt
[10:16] <Hawkwind> aegeanlinux: Can it be added to the sources.list ?
[10:16] <aegeanlinux> you download it from a repository
[10:16] <dlissner> digitalslacker: which are?
[10:16] <aamor> THey have to have some interest considering what OS X is built on...
[10:16] <dlissner> oh ok
[10:16] <aegeanlinux> Hawkwind: I dont use *buntu
[10:16] <Hawkwind> aegeanlinux: So, repos for what then ?
[10:17] <aegeanlinux> Lets not advertise www.aegeanlinux.be here yay ?
[10:17] <aamor> Healot: so what exactly is Elilo?
[10:17] <dlissner> ok so i downloaded firefox, how do i install it?
[10:18] <kral> hi all again
[10:18] <aegeanlinux> the source or binary dlissner
[10:18] <aegeanlinux> ???
[10:18] <dlissner> bunary i think
[10:18] <dlissner> tar.gz
[10:18] <aegeanlinux> go into a Konsole
[10:18] <digitalslacker> why is auto-update disabled in Firefox even when run under kdesu?
[10:18] <cfraz89> dlissner: you can just extract it and run it :)
[10:18] <kral> one more question: I have an amd64 cpu, is it better to download i386 or amd64 version of kubuntu?
[10:18] <aegeanlinux> cd to the location
[10:18] <dlissner> cani extract it anywhere?
[10:18] <aegeanlinux> tar -xvf ./firefox-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.gz
[10:18] <aegeanlinux> yea
[10:19] <cfraz89> kral: it depends how much effort you are willing to put into making it work :)
[10:19] <cfraz89> or how much you care for performance
[10:19] <kral> uhm... what do you mean?
[10:19] <cfraz89> well
[10:19] <cfraz89> if you install 64 bit version
[10:19] <aamor> Healot?
[10:19] <cfraz89> 32 bit code wont work without emulation
[10:20] <kral> I heard somewhere that 64bit version is a bit slower
[10:20] <cfraz89> and theres no 32 bit flash player
[10:20] <cfraz89> it should be faster
[10:20] <dlissner> aegeanlinux: what does the -xvf mean?
[10:20] <cfraz89> but if you are not worried about speed, go for 32 bit
[10:20] <kral> xvf = extract verbose f....
[10:20] <cfraz89> plus some drivers are not available on 64 bit
[10:20] <dlissner> ah ok
[10:21] <dlissner> can i specify which folder it extracts to in the command line?
[10:21] <kral> thank you cfraz89, you was very kind :)
[10:21] <aegeanlinux> at the end say -C <DIRECTORY>
[10:21] <cfraz89> np :)
[10:21] <kral> now I have to run to my workplace to download my cd :)
[10:21] <dlissner> thanks aegan
[10:21] <aegeanlinux> S'all good.
[10:21] <_Shade_> hi there
[10:21] <dlissner> thank all of you i will be in here a lot seeking help probably
[10:21] <cfraz89> cya :)
[10:21] <cfraz89> good luck :)
[10:21] <kral> thank you :)
[10:22] <dlissner> and what does the -c mean?
[10:22] <aamor> So, anyone know how to use this elilo thing? :)
[10:22] <aegeanlinux> (capital C)
[10:22] <Healot> -C >> directory to extract
[10:22] <aegeanlinux> it means "extract here ..."
[10:22] <xav_> IS there no way to avoid typing the password every two seconds ( when i open adept, change settings, kwallet...)
[10:22] <dlissner> does it stand for something?
[10:23] <aegeanlinux> extraCt
[10:23] <aegeanlinux> ???
[10:23] <dlissner> lol that's a long shot
[10:24] <Healot> yeah
[10:24] <aegeanlinux> dlissner: read the MAN page... just type man tar
[10:24] <Healot> e x t has been taken
[10:24] <aegeanlinux> man can teach you alot of things... just man <command>
[10:24] <admin_> hi
[10:24] <dlissner> it says old option "g" requires an argument
[10:25] <dlissner> oh i left of the xvf
[10:25] <aegeanlinux> LOL!
[10:25] <aamor> healot: could you show me how to use elilo? I downloaded it, but I've no clue how to use it
[10:25] <dlissner> oh if in the dlissner folder i made a folder "programs"
[10:25] <dlissner> how do i specify the path? cause what i put did not work
[10:25] <_Shade_> hey why i cant copy my mp3 files into an mp3 player using kubuntu ?
[10:26] <nickay> i am trying to install gnome desktop environment but i am not able to find any package for it. Which is the the package name for Gnome? Thanks
[10:26] <aegeanlinux> tar -xvf {filename.tar.gz} -C /path/to/extract/to
[10:26] <dlissner> yeah i know that aegean i mean
[10:27] <dlissner> in my home folder i created a directory named "programs"
[10:27] <dlissner> what would be the full path?
[10:27] <cfraz89> nickay: i think it is ubuntu-desktop
[10:27] <aegeanlinux> tar -xvf {filename.tar.gz} -C ~/programs ;)
[10:27] <cfraz89> will turn kubuntu into ubuntu
[10:27] <aegeanlinux> ~/ is short for /home/{username}
[10:28] <dlissner> thanks again aegean
[10:28] <aegeanlinux> S'all good dlissner ;)
[10:28] <link_36p> Does anyone know how i can get my super key working?
[10:28] <dlissner> is there a way to add a shortcut for firefox to the popup?
[10:31] <dlissner> uh heh firefox won't open. what is the extension for executable files?
[10:32] <Healot> firefox?
[10:32] <Hawkwind> dlissner: Why not just do: sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[10:32] <Healot> if properly installed, just firefox
[10:32] <Hawkwind> dlissner: That way it installs it globally via a deb package from the repos
[10:32] <aamor> anyone know how to use elilo?
[10:33] <kraut> moin
[10:33] <Hawkwind> aamor: http://elilo.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/blosxom
[10:33] <dlissner> hawk
[10:34] <dlissner> i have no idea what that does
[10:34] <dlissner> but it jsut says package is not available
[10:34] <Hawkwind> dlissner: Setup your sources.list correctly
[10:34] <Hawkwind> !repos
[10:34] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:34] <nickay> thanks cfraz89
[10:34] <kosh> it says that package is not available for mozilla-firefox?
[10:34] <Hawkwind> dlissner: ^^^^^^^^
[10:34] <dlissner> how hawkind?
[10:34] <aamor> yes, i know the elilo website, but do you know how to use it?
[10:35] <Hawkwind> aamor: No, but that site tells you
[10:35] <kosh> mozilla-firefox is in main that is available by default
[10:35] <dlissner> ok i'll read
[10:35] <kosh> unless you changed /etc/apt/sources.list manually it should all be ok
[10:35] <dlissner> i don't know this is my first hour of linux
[10:35] <dlissner> i didn't change anything
[10:35] <kosh> dlissner: what version of kubuntu did you install from?
[10:35] <cfraz89> nickay:np :)
[10:35] <dlissner> kosh 6.06 off the dvd
[10:36] <confused> cannot start a subprocess when trying to extract files in ark?
[10:36] <kosh> sure seems like a strange problem
[10:37] <dlissner> Reading package lists... Done
[10:37] <dlissner> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:37] <dlissner> Package mozilla-firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:37] <dlissner> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[10:37] <dlissner> is only available from another source
[10:37] <dlissner> E: Package mozilla-firefox has no installation candidate
[10:37] <cfraz89> dlissner, do you have the universe repository enabled?
[10:37] <Hawkwind> dlissner: sudo apt-get install firefox
[10:38] <dlissner> cfraz i don't know i just installed kubuntu an hour or so ago and have never used linux before
[10:38] <Hawkwind> Multiverse won't do him any good since firefox is in main
[10:38] <cfraz89> ok
[10:38] <cfraz89> oh ok
[10:38] <kosh> that just does not make sense
[10:38] <dlissner> same error hawkwind
[10:38] <kosh> why would main not be in the package lists
[10:38] <cfraz89> dlissner: try updating your repos
[10:38] <dlissner> well how can i add it?
[10:38] <Hawkwind> dlissner: ubotu posted a URL about repos and setting them up.  Read it and follow it
[10:39] <cfraz89> either sudo apt-get update
[10:39] <dlissner> cfraz how?
[10:39] <cfraz89> or press fetch package lists in adept
[10:39] <Hawkwind> dlissner: sudo apt-get update
[10:39] <cfraz89> i think adept has an update button in toolbar
[10:39] <dlissner> the update thing didn't work
[10:39] <cfraz89> what happened?
[10:40] <dlissner> it said it updated
[10:40] <Hawkwind> Didn't work is a pretty vague message
[10:40] <dlissner> but same error
[10:40] <cfraz89> if you want, i could put up my sources file, and you could overwrite yours with it
[10:40] <Hawkwind> dlissner: Please read the info about the repos
[10:41] <dlissner> reding hawkwind
[10:41] <cfraz89> dlissner: have you used adept before?
[10:41] <Hawkwind> dlissner: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=545.0
[10:41] <digitalslacker> aamor: are you familiar with manpages? http://www.penguin-soft.com/penguin/man/8/elilo.html
[10:41] <Hawkwind> dlissner: Follow that how-to on my forums
[10:41] <kosh> that still seems screwy that a completely new install should have any of those problems
[10:41] <dlissner> it says now
[10:41] <dlissner> However the following packages replace it:
[10:41] <kosh> it is supposed to be setup out of the box for that
[10:41] <dlissner>   libnss3
[10:41] <Hawkwind> That has a very extensive sources.list
[10:41] <dlissner> so i tried sudo apt-get libnss3
[10:42] <Hawkwind> sudo apt-get install libnss3 would be the command
[10:42] <dlissner> Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:42] <dlissner> in adept it says mozilla-firefox is installed
[10:43] <cfraz89> mozilla-firefox is installed?
[10:43] <kosh> okay so what is the issue then?
[10:43] <Hawkwind> You can NOT have adept open and do a apt-get command from CLI at the same time
[10:43] <kosh> can you do alt-f2 firefox and hit enter and see if firefox starts
[10:44] <dlissner> could not run specified command
[10:45] <dlissner> why not a simple setup file like windows :-\
[10:45] <digitalslacker> dlissner: "mozilla-Firefox" is a transitional package. Check to see if just plain old "firefox" is installed
[10:45] <ricardo> hi everybody...
[10:45] <ricardo> did anybody managed to get MATLAB working with wine? (kinda desperate here...)
[10:46] <dlissner> i search in adept for firfoz
[10:46] <Healot> MATLAB latest status?
[10:46] <dlissner> all tht comes up is mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb and says it is instaled
[10:47] <digitalslacker> dlissner: is this a fresh install of Kubuntu?
[10:47] <dlissner> digital yes about one hour ago maybe two now
[10:48] <wilfredH> my box crashed on boot after using qtparted to format a new hd, any ideas why?
[10:49] <digitalslacker> okay, enable your repositories, click View> Manage Repositories> and right click on the entries (not the notes) that are faded out and click "Enable"
[10:49] <dlissner> in adapt?
[10:49] <digitalslacker> then click Apply at the bottom. At the top, click fetch updates. Then do a search for firefox
[10:49] <digitalslacker> yes, in adept
[10:49] <Healot> ricardo: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=49
[10:50] <dlissner> thanks dig
[10:51] <digitalslacker> dlissner: did firefox show up this time?
[10:51] <dlissner> not done yet
[10:51] <dlissner> so leave out the ones that say comment, yeah?
[10:51] <digitalslacker> then don't thank me yet :-P
[10:51] <digitalslacker> yeah
[10:52] <dlissner> so doing this will provide locations to connect to when i type apt-get?
[10:53] <dlissner> still gettin the same error when i do the apt-get message
[10:53] <dlissner> mozilla has no installation candidate
[10:53] <digitalslacker> have you tried installing through adept?
[10:53] <dlissner> i downloaded firefox from the site
[10:53] <dlissner> why can't i just use that?
[10:54] <dlissner> search for firefox in adept and the only match is installed already
[10:55] <dlissner> it's jsut the english langauge package thogh
[10:55] <dlissner> let me fetch updates
[10:56] <digitalslacker> you don't have any filters unchecked at the top do you? (not installed, installed, upgradable...)
[10:56] <dlissner> all checked
[10:57] <dlissner> but now i am fetching updates maybe i needed to do this first?
[10:57] <tower> hi, i am have a problem with compile software. I keep get this msg
[10:57] <tower> configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[10:57] <tower> Error during sources configuration. Installation aborted!
[10:57] <dlissner> i really don't understand what i am doing in this process
[10:57] <ndc> hi all
[10:58] <tower> hhi
[10:58] <_max_> anyone get a apt-cacher to work with kubuntu ?
[10:58] <dlissner> hi
[10:58] <ndc> thanks
[10:59] <cfraz89> dtwoer: there is a package, x11-dev or something
[10:59] <cfraz89> *tower
[10:59] <cfraz89> tower: sudo apt-get install libx11-dev
[11:00] <tower> yes
[11:00] <tower> did that
[11:00] <dlissner> cfraz can you explain why just downloading the tar.gz from firefox's site and extracting it does not suffice in obtaning the program?
[11:00] <cfraz89> oh ok
[11:00] <cfraz89> dlissner: it does work, just that its preffereed to do stuff through the package system
[11:01] <cfraz89> so feel free to use teh tar.gz
[11:01] <ndc> mow i installing KDE from Gnome in Ubuntu and my disk become full
[11:01] <dlissner> well i extracted it
[11:01] <dlissner> but how do i open firefox?
[11:01] <cfraz89> in the folder you extracted
[11:02] <dlissner> i went to the file "firefox" and double clicked it
[11:02] <dlissner> and nothing happens
[11:02] <kosh> god why is this being made so difficult
[11:02] <cfraz89> try right clicking in the blank area
[11:02] <kosh> just hit alt-f2 firefox and hit enter
[11:02] <kosh> if it is already installed then that will work
[11:02] <dlissner> didn't work kosh
[11:02] <cfraz89> and actions, open terminal here
[11:02] <cfraz89> then do ./firefox
[11:02] <emonkey-p> ndc, maybe a sudo apt-get autclean will help
[11:02] <cfraz89> see what it says
[11:02] <kosh> geeze that machine is going to be so screwed up in a few days
[11:03] <ndc> ok thanks i will try now
[11:03] <kosh> installing stuff manually
[11:03] <cfraz89> dlissner: but it is best to work out what the problem is
[11:03] <emonkey-p> maybe a sudo apt-get clean
[11:03] <kosh> apt-get clean won't fix anything, that just removes cached copies of packages
[11:04] <kosh> these problems don't even make much sense, like why firefox would be marked as installed but not runnable, why from a default install the main repository was not available etc
[11:04] <kosh> that is just screwy as heck
[11:05] <kosh> I don't see how a cd/dvd image with those kinds of problems could have made it past beta or why more people have not had problems
[11:06] <ndc> so when i tape sudo apt-get clean nothing happen
[11:07] <dlissner> kosh tell me bout it. this seems to be the luck i have...
[11:08] <dlissner> well
[11:08] <ndc> now my partiton disk full and over than 5 giga 4 nothing
[11:09] <dlissner> the apt-get command is working now, after i enabled the repositories and after i fetched updates
[11:09] <dlissner> and it is downloading several libraries
[11:09] <MilhousePunkRock> moparisthebest has a strange part message...
[11:09] <MilhousePunkRock> re abattoir
[11:09] <dlissner> maybe i needed these in order to run firefox...
[11:09] <abattoir> pm me
[11:10] <MilhousePunkRock> you have to start the query, I still a question pending there...
[11:11] <abattoir> well, i'm in itrssi and i cant see what i tpe :-D
[11:11] <wolfmanz> abattoir what program tells you there are updates and its in the system tray when you first install kubuntu is that adept dping that?
[11:11] <dlissner> thanks for the help everyone i'm sure i'd never have gotten this working without you
[11:11] <abattoir> adept_notifiwer
[11:12] <abattoir> notifier
[11:13] <kosh> well I am heading to bed have fun
[11:13] <digitalslacker> dlissner: so you got everything working as it should?
[11:14] <dlissner> well it's apt-get is now downloading firefox
[11:14] <dlissner> slow as hell though
[11:14] <dlissner> for some reason my net is very slow in kubuntu
[11:15] <dlissner> is it bad support for my wireless card or something?
[11:15] <digitalslacker> dlissner: that could be a possibility. What card are you using?
[11:15] <dlissner> seems like it's in b mode or something and not g
[11:16] <wolfmanz> abattoir how do i get that thing back into the tray i dont see it anywehere?
[11:16] <dlissner> digitalslacker i'm not sure, it's in a laptop i just got last week haven't bothered to look. i think it's a broadcom though
[11:16] <abattoir> try running adept_notifier
[11:16] <digitalslacker> the card that I've found to have the best support in Kubuntu is the Netgear WG511T Super G
[11:17] <abattoir> i'll be back later bye
[11:17] <dlissner> ah well if it is driver related then i dont have good support at all. heh
[11:17] <dlissner> 6kb/s is ridiculously slow
[11:18] <digitalslacker> the Netgear works out-of-the-box, very nicely at that
[11:18] <dlissner> is there a way i could look for better driver for my card?
[11:18] <dlissner> cause like i said i just bought this laptop last week, thus, not looking to by another card
[11:19] <dlissner> I don't even have wirless at home i am just out of town, and don't plan linux to be my main OS, jsut wanted to give it a try and get familiar
[11:19] <digitalslacker> you're in a motel?
[11:20] <dlissner> yeah a hotel. it's a long story. been spending summer out in Cali with a friend. she got mold in her AC, thus we are in the residence inn marriot
[11:20] <digitalslacker> every motel I've stayed in have had terrible internet connections
[11:20] <dlissner> the net here is very fast
[11:21] <dlissner> i've been getting 300k/s downloads in windows
[11:22] <digitalslacker> the Marriot I stayed at in Illinois had a slow connection, but it was also filled with about 50 other computer geeks, so it could have just been bogged down
[11:22] <dlissner> yeah. this is the nicest hotel i've ever been in in my life.
[11:22] <dlissner> two story room, free breakfast and dinner that is actually very good, very fast internet
[11:23] <bradbury9> hello
[11:23] <dlissner> they will even go and buy groceries at the local store and charge only the cost
[11:23] <bradbury9> anyone knows a good asp.net ide for kde?
[11:23] <digitalslacker> yeah, Marriots have excellent service
[11:24] <bradbury9> i think it is a c# plugin for kdevelop, but dont know its name
[11:24] <dlissner> yeah luckily my friends apt office is payin for it
[11:24] <bradbury9> i wouldn't like to install eclipse and gnome libraries
[11:25] <digitalslacker> dear lord, I have a major crisis here... there's no more coffee. Must mean it's almost time for work. Bye all.
[11:25] <dlissner> by dig and thanks for all the help
[11:26] <digitalslacker> no problem, that's why I stopped by ;-)
[11:32] <MilhousePunkRock> How well do the orinoco drivers for a prism-chipset wireless device work in Linux?
[11:33] <dlissner> i dunno but my wirless device drivers suck in linux is there a site i can maybe find better ones?
[11:33] <dlissner> downloads are maxin out at 7k a sec on broadband
[11:41] <ricardo> has anybody get MATLAB to work under wine?
[11:41] <dlissner> no
[11:41] <dlissner> is wine a linux that runs on windows?
[11:43] <MuJ> dlissner: no, wine is compatibilty layer that allows you to run windows programs on linux
[11:45] <dlissner> oh. is it emulation?
[11:45] <MuJ> Wine Is Not Emulator
[11:46] <cfraz89_washing> dlissner: it is a re-implementation of win32 api for linux :)
[11:46] <marcus__> i am having major repository troubles. Can't access them after an install without network hook up, can someone help me get them back please?
[11:47] <dlissner> does it allow most programs to run?
[11:47] <dlissner> marcusyou might have the same problem as me
[11:47] <dlissner> open adept
[11:47] <marcus__> dlissner: okay
[11:47] <dlissner> go to view>manage repositories
[11:48] <marcus__> dlissner: okay
[11:48] <dlissner> then right click on all the fadded ones (excluding the ones that say comment) and click enable
[11:49] <dlissner> after you do that to all of them apply the change, then click fetch updates
[11:49] <marcus__> dlissner: it worked. thank you very very much for a timely response
[11:50] <dlissner> marcus no problem, i had someone help me with the same thing about a half hour ago
[11:51] <marcus__> dlissner: my problem is i do everything by wireless so the connection wasnt there during install
[11:51] <dlissner> marcus, exact same problem i had. now my problem is poor driver for my card and my net is way too slow
[11:52] <marcus__> dlissner: what kind of card?
[11:53] <dlissner> i need to check i believe broadcom though
[11:53] <dlissner> it's an internal
[11:53] <marcus__> dlissner: mines a broadcom too
[11:54] <marcus__> dlissner: it works just fine for me after driver install
[11:54] <dlissner> is it very slow for you?
[11:54] <dlissner> where'd you get the driver?
[11:54] <marcus__> dlissner: fast as a lick
[11:55] <cfraz89_washing> dlissner: your net is slow?
[11:56] <dlissner> cfraz yeah very
[11:56] <dlissner> in windows i am gettin downlaods of 300k/sec
[11:56] <dlissner> in kubunto averaging 1k/sec!
[11:56] <marcus__> dlissner: i get about 500k on my dell 1470 card
[11:56] <marcus__> dlissner: in kubuntu
[11:56] <MilhousePunkRock> re abattoir
[11:57] <marcus__> dlissner: want i should try to walk you through setting it up like i did?
[11:58] <dlissner> marcus yes
[11:58] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: hi :)
[11:59] <marcus__> dlissner: first remove all the wireless drivers and we will start from the beginning okay?
[11:59] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: works?
[11:59] <dlissner> marcus how do i remove?
[11:59] <MilhousePunkRock> Does not prompt me for updates anymore at least, abattoir
[11:59] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: so you get the broken pipe thing?
[11:59] <marcus__> dlissner: ndiswrapper -e (drivername)
[12:00] <dlissner> marcus i don't know the driver i am just using the default one
[12:00] <dlissner> it detected m card after install but it just sucks
[12:00] <dlissner> so i need a new one
[12:00] <marcus__> dlissner: okay type ndiswrapper -l in konsole and tell me what it says
[12:01] <abattoir> nixternal: around?
[12:01] <marcus__> dlissner: this way should work it has worked for me and others like really well, so hang in there. :)
[12:01] <dlissner> command not found
[12:02] <marcus__> dlissner: okay install ndiswrapper-utils....
[12:02] <dlissner> what's command?
[12:02] <dlissner> I have never used linux before tonight
[12:02] <marcus__> sudo apt-get install ndsiwrapper-utils
[12:02] <marcus__> dlissner: in konsole
[12:03] <marcus__> dlissner: sorry ndiswrapper-utils
[12:03] <marcus__> dlspelled it wrog the first time sorry. typing not that good sometimes in english :)
[12:04] <dlissner> it's ok, thanks
[12:04] <dlissner> ok it's done
[12:04] <marcus__> dlissner: well that typed well eh?
[12:04] <marcus__> dlissner: okay now need to get card drivers
[12:05] <marcus__> dlissner: i think it's called bcmwl5  there are 2 an ini and a sys
[12:05] <dlissner> Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG this is my card
[12:05] <marcus__> dlissner: but it uses broadcom chip right?
[12:05] <dlissner> just looked it up on the notebook mfr's site
[12:05] <dlissner> i dunno i thought it was broadcom but i think that's jsut the bluetooth
[12:06] <dlissner> the wifi i think may just be intel
[12:06] <marcus__> dlissner: it's okay do you have your driver files for your card handy?
[12:06] <marcus__> dlissner: if not you should get them. i think the install for wireless should still work fine.
[12:07] <dlissner> i am searching for them
[12:07] <ubuntu> hey guys, im following this tutorial on installing ubuntu on an intel based mac, and its telling me to mount the root partition on /mnt. how do I do this?
[12:08] <marcus__> dlissner: like i said i will try to help you get it working with basic install. if it doesnt work i apologize for that.....
[12:09] <dlissner> ubuntu is it graphical?
[12:09] <dlissner> marcus it is ok
[12:09] <ubuntu> yes
[12:09] <dlissner> i'm still searching for the drivers
[12:09] <marcus__> dlissner: okay let me know when you find them
[12:09] <dlissner> ubuntu for me, it gave me a menu
[12:09] <dlissner> with dropdown boxes
[12:10] <ubuntu> but where were these menus? in a certain app?
[12:10] <dlissner> and it let me select which partitions to mount what on
[12:10] <dlissner> in the kubuntu installtion
[12:11] <marcus__> !restrictedformats
[12:11] <ubuntu> yea but I'm doing this a certain way, like its saying in the tutorial
[12:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:11] <dlissner> i'm not experienced in linux so i am probably not much help
[12:11] <ubuntu> well how do I mount a drive at all?
[12:11] <dlissner> mount <partition> <folder>
[12:12] <dlissner> so first make a folder for it
[12:12] <dlissner> like /home/user/mountfolder
[12:12] <dlissner> then do mount /partiton info /home/user/mountfolder
[12:13] <dlissner> my windows partition is /dev/sda4
[12:13] <dlissner> so i made a folder called windows and then did
[12:13] <ubuntu> it says only root can do that
[12:13] <marcus__> ubuntu: use sudo before it
[12:13] <dlissner> put sudo on the front
[12:14] <MilhousePunkRock> I would like to partition my disc and move the /home folder to a seperate partition...
[12:14] <ubuntu> now it says looks like swapspace - not mounted
[12:14] <dlissner> sudo mount <partition> /home/ubuntu/<folderyoumade>
[12:15] <ubuntu> in Parted what partition type should I make it?
[12:15] <dlissner> i don't know
[12:15] <ubuntu> fat32?
[12:15] <marcus__> ubuntu: which partition?
[12:15] <dlissner> i'd do ext3
[12:16] <ubuntu> the partition im trying to install linux on
[12:16] <dlissner> ext3
[12:16] <marcus__> ubuntu: i make /boot ext2 / ext3 /home ext3 and swap swap
[12:16] <marcus__> ubuntu: so ext3 is a good choice
[12:17] <dlissner> marcus read this:
[12:17] <dlissner> http://ipw2100.sourceforge.net/
[12:17] <ubuntu> that didn't make much sense but ok
[12:17] <dlissner> ubuntu he means he has 3 parittions
[12:17] <dlissner> one for boot
[12:17] <dlissner> one for home
[12:17] <dlissner> and one for swap
[12:18] <marcus__> dlissner: and one for /
[12:18] <dlissner> he formats the boot as ext2
[12:18] <marcus__> so i actually have 4 :)
[12:18] <dlissner> the / as ext3
[12:18] <ubuntu> Still not making sense to me, I'm completely new to Linux
[12:18] <dlissner> the /home as ext3
[12:18] <dlissner> and the swap as swap
[12:18] <dlissner> yeah me too ubuntu
[12:18] <dlissner> you need to make two paritions at least
[12:18] <dlissner> one for /
[12:18] <dlissner> and one for swap
[12:19] <dlissner> the swap one doesn't need to be big i don't beleive
[12:19] <marcus__> make the / ext3 ubuntu
[12:19] <ubuntu> whats the point of swap?
[12:20] <marcus__> ubuntu: paging file
[12:20] <ubuntu> and that is?
[12:20] <dlissner> ubuntu basically it;s like virtual ram i believ
[12:20] <MilhousePunkRock> Virtual Memory
[12:21] <dlissner> so your physical ram can be used for important stuff
[12:21] <dlissner> and other stuff can use virtual ram on your hard disk
[12:21] <ubuntu> i see...
[12:21] <dlissner> hahah i don't even have a swap on my linux install
[12:22] <dlissner> marcus it seems like a lot
[12:22] <dlissner> i need wireless extensions
[12:22] <dlissner> wireless tools
[12:22] <ubuntu> so, I mounted the drive and now its named lost+found and its locked...
[12:22] <dlissner> then a driver and a firmware image
[12:22] <marcus__> dlissner: if you install the driver through ndiswrapper it should take care of that stuff
[12:23] <dlissner> ok
[12:23] <dlissner> so how do i do that?
[12:23] <marcus__> dlissner: firmware image?
[12:23] <marcus__> dlissner: after you have the drivers we can try the basic install and see if it works
[12:23] <dlissner> thats what it says on the dev site for the driver
[12:23] <dlissner> but aside that, how do i do the ndiswrapper>
[12:23] <dlissner> ok
[12:23] <dlissner> i will download them nowthn
[12:24] <ubuntu> why the hell is the drive locked?
[12:24] <dlissner> ubuntu at this point i have no clue
[12:24] <marcus__> dlissner: when you have the drivers i will walk you through it.
[12:24] <ubuntu> do either of you wanna see the site im looking at to see if I've done anything wrong?
[12:24] <ubuntu> cause i could really use the help
[12:25] <MilhousePunkRock> wb abattoir
[12:26] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: thanks for the warm welcome :P
[12:26] <MilhousePunkRock> In fact, you _are_ welcome, abattoir
[12:26] <MetaMorfoziS> how it possible i can't kill a process?
[12:27] <MetaMorfoziS> with any of signal?
[12:27] <MetaMorfoziS> the process is irattach
[12:27] <ubuntu> http://mactel-linux.org/wiki/Dual_Booting#Using_rEFIt.2C_Boot_Camp_and_LILO
[12:28] <MilhousePunkRock> It was supposed to be one, abattoir, but now when I rethink it, it sucks...
[12:28] <MilhousePunkRock> Since I am the one who's welcome... When it comes to you offering me your help...
[12:30] <dlissner> marcus you still here?
[12:30] <marcus__> yes
[12:30] <ubuntu> marcus did you see the page i linked?
[12:32] <marcus__> ubuntu: I am sorry but that is a little beyond my skills.
[12:32] <ubuntu> damn
[12:32] <ubuntu> so the stupid website is supposed to be for beginners, yet it requires advanced knowledge of Linux... real smart
[12:35] <dlissner> ok marcus i have the skills
[12:35] <dlissner> err drivers
[12:35] <dlissner> lol
[12:35] <dlissner> my bad
[12:39] <marcus__> dlissner: okay type the following
[12:40] <marcus__> dlissner: sudo ndiswrapper -i (nameoffile).inf
[12:41] <marcus__> dlissner: did you extract the drivers on your desktop or somewhere on your computer?
[12:41] <noiesmo> ndisgtk dont know if it helps I used it to install dwl 650 card
[12:41] <dlissner> doin that right now one sec
[12:41] <noiesmo> ndisgtk is a gui for ndiswrapper
[12:42] <marcus__> noiesmo: ive never used ndisgtk but i think i can get his card working from the command line :)
[12:42] <dlissner> k extracted marcus
[12:42] <dlissner> i'd rather learn the command line anyway
[12:42] <marcus__> open konsole and change to the directory where you extracted them
[12:43] <noiesmo> no probs
[12:43] <dlissner> k
[12:43] <dlissner> there
[12:43] <marcus__> type sudo ndiswrapper -i (nameoffile).inf
[12:43] <digibre4k_> new member .....
[12:43] <marcus__> dlissner: if you need to find the filename you can use ls
[12:44] <marcus__> dlissner: there will be a inf and a sys most likely with the same name
[12:44] <digibre4k_> how to download xmms and to install???
[12:45] <marcus__> digibre4k_: in adept make ure universe is enabled and search for xmms.
[12:45] <digibre4k_> can you help me????
[12:45] <dlissner> wait uhh hold on
[12:45] <dlissner> there were three more tars inside the main tar lemme extract them
[12:46] <marcus__> dlissner: okay
[12:46] <shaham> since i updated from breezy to dapper all my music-player who use xine-engine didnt work
[12:46] <marcus__> digibre4k_: or you can use "sudo apt-get install xmms
[12:46] <shaham> how can i get that music-player working? :(
[12:47] <marcus__> shaham: Sorry..... I have no idea on that one.
[12:47] <shaham> hmm ok
[12:47] <digibre4k_> i do not understand....!!!
[12:47] <dlissner> ugh
[12:48] <marcus__> dlissner: whats up?
[12:49] <dlissner> it's not an inf file
[12:49] <dlissner> i think i have to compile this myself
[12:49] <marcus__> dlissner: what is it?
[12:49] <dlissner> the readme says i need to download some other app so it can build the libraries
[12:49] <marcus__> dlissner: or you could use the windows driver
[12:49] <dlissner> this is taking way too much effort jesus christ
[12:50] <dlissner> i can use the windows driver, really
[12:50] <dlissner> ?
[12:50] <marcus__> dlissner: ndiswrapper uses windows drivers
[12:50] <dlissner> oh
[12:50] <dlissner> well lemme download that then
[12:50] <dlissner> hold on
[12:50] <marcus__> dlissner: if i was no specific enough i apologize. as i said english is not to good sometimes
[12:52] <dlissner> can linux run a .exe?
[12:52] <dlissner> the driver is only available as a .exe program
[12:52] <marcus__> dlissner: try extracting it with ark
[12:53] <cham_i_prostak> dlissner: with wine yes
[12:53] <dlissner> ugh i don't have wine
[12:53] <dlissner> this is way to many steps i have had linux for a few hours and i don't like it at all
[12:53] <marcus__> dlissner: try extractng the exe with ark
[12:53] <dlissner> it is very user unfriendly
[12:54] <marcus__> dlissner: this is true, but alot of people think it is worth it. :)
[12:54] <dlissner> why is it worth it?
[12:54] <dlissner> i'm beginning to not understand at all
[12:54] <marcus__> dlissner: faster,more stable, more customizable, good community, lots of support
[12:55] <marcus__> dlissner: no spyware and very few virii....
[12:55] <Ace2005> Anyone know where i can get boot themes for kubuntu?
[12:55] <marcus__> dlissner: definately not for gaming though
[12:56] <cham_i_prostak> dlissner: you're right, windows is much more user friendly
[12:56] <marcus__> but windows is like swiss cheese
[12:56] <cham_i_prostak> but windows treats his user like a comlete imbecil
[12:57] <marcus__> a friend of mine did the spyware update software in windows and it said something like 372,00 known threats scary
[12:57] <dlissner> i dunno
[12:57] <dlissner> i have my windows setup very customized, and have never had issues with spyware
[12:57] <marcus__> sorry 372000 typo:)
[12:58] <marcus__> dlissner: then i am guessing you are one of the lucky ones
[12:58] <dlissner> i am in full control of my windows system and i am safe about what i download and when there is spyware i am able to manually get rid of it from the registry and such
[12:58] <dlissner> in linux, i have been typing commands for hours just to get a decent net connection to no avail and i don' even know what it means
[12:58] <dlissner> just not sure it's worth the time to learn at this point in the game
[12:59] <marcus__> at least not t 6:30am eh?
[12:59] <dlissner> i'm very windows adjusted and i use a lot of software not in linux for school and work
[12:59] <dlissner> marcus
[01:00] <dlissner> if i mount my windows drive
[01:00] <dlissner> and find the driver in there
[01:00] <dlissner> will that suffice?
[01:00] <marcus__> it should still work
[01:00] <Godrin> dlissner: once you're into the flow, it gets much easier to use than windows. you'll need some 4 or 5 hours to setup a working system. (vs. 2 or 3 days on windows for downloading and installing all the software you need separately.
[01:00] <dlissner> ok
[01:00] <marcus__> just remember there is an inf and sys probably with the same name.
[01:00] <dlissner> godrin i have downloaded a lot of software that has gotten me nowhere
[01:01] <dlissner> it's like to downlaod firefoz
[01:01] <dlissner> i had to configure all this adept stuff
[01:01] <dlissner> then finlly it workes
[01:01] <dlissner> then net is slow, try to get wireless drivers
[01:01] <marcus__> <--- likes synaptic better
[01:01] <dlissner> find the intel one, but to use it i need such and such, and to use such and such i need this and that
[01:01] <Godrin> I don't say it's perfect. But for some people it's better :-)
[01:02] <dlissner> it's like this ongoing chain of dependencies from various parties
[01:02] <marcus__> dlissner: all you should need is drivers and ndiswrapper.
[01:02] <dlissner> the nice thing in windows is centralization. i want to add a device, i plus it in and it's done
[01:02] <dlissner> plug*
[01:02] <marcus__> dlissner: i set my card up in 5 minutes tops.
[01:02] <dlissner> i'm not here to bash linux it is just frustrating me
[01:02] <dlissner> yeah but marcus i'm having a hard time getting drivers for my card
[01:03] <dlissner> a really hard time
[01:03] <marcus__> dlissner: perhaps that is the fault of intel?
[01:04] <dlissner> marcus yeah i guess it is
[01:04] <marcus__> dlissner: personally i find drivers for different things to be the most irritating thing about linux, but i keep going anyway.....
[01:04] <dlissner> windows just has much better support of manufacturers
[01:04] <marcus__> dlissner: which supports the wintel monopoly and makes it stronger
[01:05] <pete___> i have a hp photosmart printer 7400/7450 can you get drivers for it and software to run on kubunta any help thank you
[01:06] <dlissner> sigh anyone know the folder where windows puts drivers?
[01:06] <dlissner> cab something or another
[01:06] <marcus__> <-- has only seen windows... never really wanted to use it.
[01:07] <dlissner> marcus where are you from?
[01:07] <marcus__> northeastern united states
[01:08] <dlissner> and you've never used windows? crazy
[01:08] <marcus__> never wanted to
[01:08] <dlissner> did your parents use linux or something?
[01:08] <pete___> thanks
[01:08] <dlissner> it was all that was really available to me i guess
[01:08] <Godrin> dlissner: if you're having trouble with intel-drivers, it might help to wait a little. At least this worked for me with the ipw2200 drivers ;-)
[01:09] <marcus__> no just linux was the first thing i used and i liked it. im still learning though
[01:09] <dlissner> how do you unmount a drive?
[01:09] <marcus__> unmount
[01:10] <marcus__> the more i read and see of windows the more i want to stay away from t too.
[01:11] <dlissner> how can i search for folders on the disk?
[01:12] <Godrin> dlissner K->Search ?
[01:12] <yamal> pete___: many hp photosmart printers work very well in linux... driver is either hplip or hpijs (included in kubuntu)
[01:12] <marcus__> try find its under the home menu
[01:12] <marcus__> <-- has to go to work pretty soon
[01:12] <pete___> thanks yamal
[01:12] <ricardo> is it normal that sun-java installation takes more than 5 minutes?
[01:13] <marcus__> !repositories
[01:13] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[01:14] <yamal> ricardo: you have to agree with some license stuff
[01:14] <MilhousePunkRock> marcus__: You can probably learn it a lot better/faster than all us Ex-Windows-Users...
[01:14] <ricardo> EULA agreement...I  know...but there is no message at all....it is just blocked at 25%
[01:14] <ricardo> yamal:
[01:15] <marcus__> MilhousePunkRock: i dunno, maybe
[01:15] <dlissner> i'm going to sleep
[01:15] <dlissner> marcus thanks for your help
[01:15] <marcus__> dlissner: good night
[01:15] <dlissner> maybe i will catch you in here later
[01:15] <marcus__> dlissner: im sure of it
[01:15] <dlissner> cool i'll be bac later this evening
[01:15] <scorpion007> ricardo: install it from the console instead
[01:15] <dlissner> i need some sleep before i can carry this on
[01:15] <dlissner> have a good night
[01:15] <marcus__> dlissner: you too
[01:15] <dlissner> night all
[01:16] <marcus__> where can i regenerate my sources list again?
[01:16] <ricardo> scorpion: thanx...ill try that....
[01:16] <marcus__> !sources
[01:17] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[01:17] <supernix> well I am the proud owner of the book Ubuntu Hacks
[01:17] <marcus__> !easysource
[01:17] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:18] <supernix> are there any other good Ubuntu books
[01:18] <MilhousePunkRock> How can I find out the current blocksize in my file system?
[01:19] <elden> df -h
[01:19] <MilhousePunkRock> Not really elden
[01:20] <elden> ic
[01:20] <MilhousePunkRock> I want to resize my partitions with resize2fs and fdisk, but I need the blocksize so I can tell resize2fs how big it's supposed to be
[01:21] <elden> how about using g-parted?
[01:21] <marcus__> bed is my friend. nighty night
[01:21] <MilhousePunkRock> The G confuses me, sounds like GTK
[01:21] <marcus__> haha just kidding. gotta leave for work
[01:21] <marcus__> have a good day everybody....
[01:22] <elden> g-parted = gnome partition editor
[01:22] <elden> you can use it to resize partitions
[01:23] <MilhousePunkRock> yeah, if I run a gnome app on KDE, I'll have to install lots of GTK libraries...
[01:23] <nolte> there should be a qt-parted also
[01:23] <aegeanlinux> lol.
[01:23] <MilhousePunkRock> qt-parted fails to do anything, and yes, I launched it with root permission
[01:24] <elden> ic
[01:24] <elden> i think theres a live cd or usb version
[01:24] <MilhousePunkRock> I already figured out the usage of resize2fs, but I need to find out my block size...
[01:25] <elden> w8
[01:25] <MilhousePunkRock> Because than I can divide the 15 GB I want with the blocksize and the result, which is the number of blocks, is what I tell resize2fs
[01:25] <elden> hmm
[01:26] <Ace2005> Is google down at the moment?
[01:26] <elden> i dont use reiserfs, i use jfs
[01:26] <elden> but when i googled it
[01:26] <elden> the default block size for reiserfs under linux is 4096 bytes
[01:27] <elden> does it work?
[01:27] <MilhousePunkRock> elden, nolte --> http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man8/resize2fs.8.html
[01:27] <MilhousePunkRock> Did I not mention that I use ext3?
[01:28] <elden> nah, you didnt :p
[01:28] <MilhousePunkRock> Now you know...
[01:29] <elden> :)
[01:29] <elden> so, you want to resize an ext3 partition?
[01:29] <elden> you said before you want to resize a partition using reiser2fs
[01:29] <Healot> PM or fdisk, qtparted is also cool for that
[01:30] <elden> so i assumed you have a reiserfs
[01:30] <MilhousePunkRock> RESIZE2fs, not reiser
[01:30] <elden> omg, my bad
[01:31] <elden> i must be sleepy :)
[01:31] <MilhousePunkRock> To be precise: Right now I have one large partition (next to the extended and swap, which seem to be in the same range)
[01:31] <nolte> man mkfs.ext3 says valid block sizes are 1,2 and 4 kb
[01:32] <elden> then go for it :)
[01:32] <MilhousePunkRock> So I have three options that will leave me with half or even quarter the size I actually want? nolte o_O
[01:33] <nolte> three ist better then 5, hold on a moment
[01:34] <MilhousePunkRock> Wait, nolte, than my block size must be one, since hda1 has 2855506 Blocks and it's a 30 GB HDD in total
[01:34] <supernix> does anyone know which is the best Ubuntu book to buy ?
[01:34] <Healot> there is book for ubuntu?
[01:35] <supernix> Yes many of them to
[01:35] <MilhousePunkRock> The plan is to put 10 GB aside for another distro and make a seperate partition for /home of 5 GB
[01:35] <supernix> I bought Ubuntu Hacks because it was the only one I saw last night but there are many more than that
[01:36] <elden> ic
[01:36] <supernix> I went to bn.com and saw the Ubuntu Bible as well as the Ubuntu Official book
[01:36] <elden> hmm, i think i can't help you, bec when i resize partitions, i always use g-parted
[01:37] <supernix> I figured getting one of them a good one that is would help with any issue I might have
[01:37] <supernix> But sad to say I did not see a modem section
[01:37] <MilhousePunkRock> elden
[01:37] <MilhousePunkRock> lol
[01:37] <elden> :)
[01:38] <MilhousePunkRock> elden, it looks like I can do the "first part", shrinking the initial partition easily... I wonder how I get a new partition created though...
[01:38] <elden> hmm
[01:39] <ubuntu> how to install xgl on kubuntu ?
[01:39] <elden> add xgl.compiz.net to your repositories
[01:39] <elden> sudo apt-get install compiz compiz-kde compiz-gnome
[01:39] <ubuntu> thank u
[01:40] <elden> oh btw, follow the instructions at xgl.compiz.info
[01:40] <elden> and use replace kwin with cgwd to fire up your 3d desktop
[01:40] <ubuntu> thanks for your help. saw an article this morning. xgl looks good. thought I would try it
[01:40] <elden> 4got, issue cgwd --replace
[01:41] <MilhousePunkRock> ubuntu: There is a Live Linux running XGL, maybe that's better for trying it...
[01:41] <MilhousePunkRock> ubuntu: Called "korora" or something
[01:41] <elden> yah
[01:41] <elden> sorry milhouse, can't really help :)
[01:42] <nolte> so here we are
[01:42] <nolte> tune2fs -l /dev/hda1
[01:42] <nolte> blocksize ist 4096
[01:42] <gabriel1> hello
[01:45] <slow-motion> hallo
[01:45] <elden> :)
[01:45] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello slow-motion
[01:45] <slow-motion> hi MilhousePunkRock
[01:45] <MilhousePunkRock> thx nolte... Indeed it's 4096 here too
[01:49] <MilhousePunkRock> Why does fdisk -l /dev/hda1 tell me it has 2855506 blocks than?
[01:50] <nolte> could this be 2855506 blocks a 4 kb is about your fs size
[01:52] <nolte> is your fs size about 10 gb ?
[01:52] <nolte> that should be ok then
[01:52] <MilhousePunkRock> No
[01:52] <MilhousePunkRock> It's 30
[01:52] <nolte> hmm
[01:52] <MilhousePunkRock> Well, 29 if you calculate the swap
[01:53] <MilhousePunkRock> The Block count is 28555506 in fdisk
[01:53] <nolte> an hda is not your swap partition, right ?
[01:53] <nolte> and hda1 is not your swap partition, right ? (sorry)
[01:53] <MilhousePunkRock> Wanna see the partition table from fdisk for clearing things up?
[01:54] <nolte> why not
[01:54] <MilhousePunkRock> nolte: http://pastebin.ca/102190
[01:55] <MilhousePunkRock> Both the fdisk and the tune2fs output
[01:57] <Healot> killed by idol
[01:57] <Healot> damn, i can only torify connection outside
[01:57] <MilhousePunkRock> re Healot
[01:58] <MilhousePunkRock> How does that tor thing work anyway... You get rerouted over a dozen nodes, so you can't be traced back?
[01:59] <nolte> hmm look at line 30, tune2fs block count is 713xxx x 4096 that works, dont' know what the fdisk blocks are
[02:00] <nolte> multiplied by 4096 KB
[02:02] <MilhousePunkRock> Since some HowTo for resize2fs mentioned tune2fs to determine the blocksize, I'll stick with that...
[02:04] <elden> i read resize2fs as reiserfs :p i think i should go to be now :)
[02:04] <elden> *bed
[02:04] <elden> ;)
[02:04] <MilhousePunkRock> so 16777216 blocks of 4096 kb would make 16 GB?
[02:05] <MilhousePunkRock> Wait, no...
[02:05] <MilhousePunkRock> Huh? 4096 Blocks of 4096 KB make 16 GB?
[02:05] <nolte> its 4 KB and 4096 bytes so devide by 8
[02:06] <MilhousePunkRock> your bad --> [14:00]  <nolte> multiplied by 4096 KB
[02:06] <nolte> depends from where you start blocks or GB
[02:07] <ubuntu> Hi all
[02:07] <MilhousePunkRock> Starts on Block 0
[02:08] <MilhousePunkRock> Hi ubuntu
[02:08] <ubuntu> any body know how to configuer 802.1x in kubuntu?!!
[02:08] <MilhousePunkRock> As in Wireless, ubuntu?
[02:09] <ubuntu> will, ya!! to be frank I need it for wireless and wired network, this is the config in the company i work for.
[02:09] <MilhousePunkRock> Depends on what you need to know, ubuntu...
[02:10] <MilhousePunkRock> I got some basic knowledge about it by now, set up my wireless twice...
[02:10] <ubuntu> ok, lets keep it for wireless for now, is there any package for it?!
[02:11] <ubuntu> I looked in SLED 10 and I was serprised its not there ?!!
[02:11] <MilhousePunkRock> There are several packages for it... But once I had it set up properly and found out the /etc/network/interfaces controls everything, I never used any GUI stuff for it anymore
[02:11] <ubuntu> it was suppose to be an "E" edition right?!!
[02:13] <MilhousePunkRock> SLED 10 as in Suse Linux Enterprise Desktop?
[02:13] <ubuntu> ya
[02:13] <ubuntu> by the why, i would appreciate it if you could send me the templet of your config
[02:14] <MilhousePunkRock> So how is the connection between that and Kubuntu? I don't quite get it...
[02:14] <MilhousePunkRock> ubuntu: What encryption do you use?
[02:15] <ubuntu> see I thought since it is an enterprise edtion, i don't have to fidle arround with dot1x, i was wrong
[02:16] <ubuntu> i guess its wap 40 bit
[02:16] <MilhousePunkRock> I still don't quite understand how you connect SUSE and Kubuntu...
[02:16] <ubuntu> with peap for authentication
[02:16] <MilhousePunkRock> ubuntu: This is my interfaces I pasted for someonelse earlier this morning: http://pastebin.ca/101834
[02:17] <solomonuk> lo
[02:17] <MilhousePunkRock> re abattoir... When did you sneak back in?
[02:18] <MilhousePunkRock> Wow, half an hour ago...
[02:18] <h3sp4wn> ubuntu: /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/examples/ieee8021x.conf and /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes will probably help you
[02:18] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: hehe :)
[02:19] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[02:21] <ubuntu> is there any project to make xgl work out of the box in kubuntu?!
[02:22] <h3sp4wn> ubuntu: There are unofficial repositories but they invariably break things - aiglx is in edgy but I dont know why you would want xgl in an enterprise type situation its alpha software
[02:23] <ubuntu> the xgl for playaround not for work
[02:23] <ubuntu> anyway, for now i care a bout .1x
[02:23] <BluesKaj> Kororaa is a live cd that will install Xgl on yer system if you have the right graphics drivers etc
[02:24] <McScruff> gentoo based
[02:24] <DeadS0ul> BluesKaj: they got past the whole license thing?
[02:25] <BluesKaj> dunno DeadS0ul, I DL'd and burned it , but unfortunately I couldn't make it work on my elcheapo ATI xpress 200 evn tho itsays it will :(
[02:25] <DeadS0ul> doh
[02:26] <BluesKaj> AAMOF I had to reinstall kubuntu cuz I caused so much damage to my existing setup at the time
[02:28] <Bluntslide_> Anyone has problems with automatic updates from adept?
[02:28] <Bluntslide_> right now I got half kde in english and half in spanish because of it
[02:28] <Bluntslide_> :(
[02:29] <BluesKaj> have you added any repositories?
[02:29] <sebr> do dudes. i'm relying on all you kubunut experts
[02:29] <sebr> how can i make my laptop run faster
[02:29] <sebr> like blitzing fast on kubuntu
[02:29] <sebr> i hear its possible
[02:30] <h3sp4wn> sebr: dapper was too slow on my laptop so it got kanotix which was alot faster - build 2.6.16 from kernel.org (optionally with realtime patches) would make a difference
[02:31] <sebr> h3sp4wn: to go to all that effort, i'll just reinstall Arch linux
[02:31] <sebr> this is the problem with packages which aren't optimised for i686 :)
[02:31] <tic_> how come after I have installed ati's fglrx driver xrandr cant get the physical screen size right?
[02:33] <tic_> I'm using the same xorg.conf as I did when it worked with the none-ati fglrx driver
[02:33] <Bluntslide_> blueskaj do you want me to post my repositories?
[02:34] <BluesKaj> no Bluntslide_, just check if you have some spanish based ones
[02:34] <h3sp4wn> sebr: The 686 optimizations dont make a massive difference for most programs in my experience (other than maybe X and the kernel) there is some other problem to that (debian sid is compiled for 486 and runs really fast)
[02:34] <Bluntslide_> yes I have
[02:35] <sebr> well X makes a big difference
[02:35] <sebr> i can see the lag resizing windows
[02:35] <sebr> and moving them about
[02:36] <BluesKaj> Bluntslide_, I think the spanish ones may be causing your problem
[02:37] <BluesKaj> unless you want spanish programs
[02:37] <solomonuk> lo.  I have tried to install firefox on my own going through the help on the forum but it will not work can any1 please talk me through the process
[02:37] <ricardo> hi...
[02:37] <ricardo> does anybody use MATLAB under WINE?
[02:38] <h3sp4wn> sebr: I take it you have the binary drivers installed (if appropriate)
[02:38] <h3sp4wn> ricardo: Why would you do that there is a linux native version of it
[02:38] <fannagoganna> actually, ricardo, I have matlab for linux
[02:38] <fannagoganna> if you're interested
[02:38] <fannagoganna> it runs natively (such as it is)
[02:38] <ubuntu> thank you MilhousePunkRock for your support
[02:39] <MilhousePunkRock> ubuntu: I didn't do much, did I?
[02:39] <fannagoganna> it uses Java, so it's slow as balls starting up and as temperamental as a psycho girlfriend
[02:39] <sebr> yeah, xorg drivers are using trident...
[02:40] <solomonuk> Can ne1 spare a few mins to help me install forefox plz?
[02:41] <ricardo> h3sp4wn: i have a windows version installed under XP on one partition...And linux in the other..(plus I dont have a matlab for linux license)
[02:41] <ricardo> h3sp4wn: it works fine but i have to use -nojvm option....
[02:41] <MilhousePunkRock> solomonuk: sudo apt-get install firefox
[02:41] <ricardo> h3sp4wn: this way the interface is much uglier (simulink works fine though!)
[02:42] <slow-motion> bbl
[02:42] <BluesKaj> solomonuk, have you tried to find it in  ADEPT ?
[02:42] <MilhousePunkRock> in the console that is, solomonuk
[02:44] <solomonuk> Millhouse: is says firefox is not available
[02:47] <BluesKaj> well, there gotta be a way to install firefox
[02:47] <solomonuk> MilhousePunkRock: I dont know what ADEPT is.  Im brand new to Linux
[02:47] <fannagoganna> Blueskaj: you might have a problem with your file /etc/apt/sources.list file
[02:48] <MilhousePunkRock> did you change your sources list?
[02:49] <BluesKaj> solomonuk, ADEPT is a package manager that is used to download and install programs ...it's in your K-Menu
[02:49] <solomonuk> no havent touched it, like I say i went through the help on the forum but it didn't work, didn't mention anything about a sources list either
[02:49] <fannagoganna> run apt-get update
[02:49] <fannagoganna> and then run apt-cache search firefox
[02:49] <kalm> is it safe to install kde 3.5.3?
[02:49] <kalm>  I supposed canonical teams will not make security corrections on it
[02:49] <BluesKaj> fannagoganna, I have FF installed, it's not me with the prob
[02:49] <fannagoganna> well, there is a kubuntu.org repository for the latest KDE
[02:49] <MilhousePunkRock> kalm: I have that for weeks already, no issues...
[02:50] <fannagoganna> ah ok, you're trying to compile it?
[02:51] <slow-motion> re
[02:51] <solomonuk> :p im just trying to install it.  Maybe learn a bit in the process
[02:51] <fannagoganna> ok solomonuk, can you run "apt-get update"
[02:52] <BluesKaj> solomonuk ? did you see my reference to "adept" ?
[02:53] <solomonuk> fannagoganna: cant run apt-get update
[02:53] <BluesKaj> fannagoganna,don't you think he should how to walk thru linux before you try to teach him how to run?
[02:53] <fannagoganna> are you running with sudo, solomonuk?
[02:53] <solomonuk> BluesKaj: yes and don't know what adept is
[02:53] <solomonuk> 1 sec
[02:53] <fannagoganna> oh ok, this will take a while then
[02:53] <fannagoganna> :)
[02:54] <BluesKaj> look in the menu / system
[02:54] <solomonuk> fanna: okay ran sudo apt-get update
[02:54] <fannagoganna> is it doing something?
[02:54] <BluesKaj> too many teachers ..
[02:55] <Healot> not many student
[02:55] <fannagoganna> like Alexander the Great and his many teachers
[02:55] <fannagoganna> or tutors
[02:56] <Healot> his gay tutors and incest mother?
[02:56] <solomonuk> right I have adept running now, and now know what it is
[02:57] <kalm> hu, i steal having problemes with the mp3
[02:57] <kalm> normally with xine, there is nothing to do no?
[02:57] <Healot> kalm: you need "libxine-extracodecs" with 6.06
[02:57] <solomonuk> adept says firefox is installed
[02:58] <thoreauputic> kalm:  install libxine-extracodecs
[02:58] <Healot> !info libxine-extracodecs
[02:58] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[02:58] <fannagoganna> !info amarok
[02:58] <ubotu> amarok: versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In repository main, is optional. Version 2:1.3.9-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 7630 kB, installed size 18672 kB
[02:58] <fannagoganna> !info kvirc
[02:58] <h3sp4wn> ! info libinstrudeo edgy
[02:58] <ubotu> kvirc: KDE based next generation IRC client with module support. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2:3.2.0-5ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2366 kB, installed size 7108 kB
[02:58] <h3sp4wn> !info libinstrudeo edgy
[02:58] <ubotu> Package libinstrudeo does not exist in edgy
[02:59] <BluesKaj> solomonuk, lookin the menu / interenet...you'll see Firefox
[03:00] <Healot> !info mirc
[03:00] <ubotu> Package mirc does not exist in dapper
[03:00] <thoreauputic> what a surprise ;|
[03:00] <BluesKaj> firefox prolly has a different logo
[03:00] <fannagoganna> isn't mirc the windows IRC client?
[03:00] <Chousuke> yes.
[03:00] <thoreauputic> exactly
[03:01] <Chousuke> _a_ windows irc client :P
[03:01] <fannagoganna> so I would be surprised if it's in any Linux distribution
[03:01] <fannagoganna> there
[03:01] <fannagoganna> there's xchat which works very well for me
[03:01] <thoreauputic> fannagoganna: indeed
[03:01] <BluesKaj> there is no mirc in linux
[03:01] <Chousuke> mirc still has pretty crappy UTF-8 support.
[03:02] <solomonuk> BluesKaj: its not in the menu matey
[03:02] <fannagoganna> and the latest versions of kvirc which are very very polished
[03:02] <BluesKaj> Konverstaion is my fave ..works well...no server lisy=t included is a problem for some tho
[03:02] <Chousuke> it cuts lines per byte, instead of per character, which results in weird trouble with multibyte characters. :)
[03:02] <solomonuk> thats what I can't understand its Kubuntu I am using btw
[03:02] <fannagoganna> how about gaim, is it able to transfer/receive files in IRC?
[03:02] <BluesKaj> did you look in the internet list ?
[03:02] <Chousuke> fannagoganna: should be.
[03:02] <Chousuke> DCC is quite a basic feature.
[03:02] <solomonuk> yes under internet
[03:02] <MilhousePunkRock> What's wrong with Konversation, I like it...
[03:03] <fannagoganna> well, konversation does not have a way to connect through a proxy
[03:03] <fannagoganna> that is, it doesn't have a connection option of proxy connections
[03:03] <fannagoganna> kvirc and xchat do
[03:03] <voicu> hi, i'd like to know if there is a log kept for the messages i get at login (in the console). for example, i'd like to see the entire list of failed logins. is it possible?
[03:03] <Healot> use xchat or kvirc
[03:03] <fannagoganna> the only way to use konversation through a proxy is to setup a global proxy in KDE
[03:04] <Healot> or ksirc
[03:04] <BluesKaj> solomonuk, use the run command , type firefox , see what happens
[03:05] <solomonuk> does not understand the command
[03:05] <BluesKaj> solomonuk, it's in the menu,the lil blue gear thing ..click on it
[03:06] <Healot> kde menu->internet->firefox
[03:06] <thoreauputic> voicu:  laslog and faillog
[03:06] <thoreauputic> umm lastlog sorry
[03:06] <solomonuk> nope deffinately not in the menu
[03:07] <BluesKaj> NO RUN COMMAND ?
[03:07] <solomonuk> yeah there is the run command but firefox aint there anywhere in the menu
[03:08] <BluesKaj> click on the run command and type firefox in the dialog box
[03:09] <solomonuk> I already have tried that it says it dont understand the command
[03:09] <voicu> thoreauputic, thanks
[03:09] <thoreauputic> voicu: your're welcome :)
[03:09] <thoreauputic> bah ignore typos please
[03:09] <BluesKaj> well try "adept" again and reinstall Firefox
[03:10] <Healot> hmm
[03:10] <solomonuk> 1 sec I will give that a go.
[03:10] <Healot> just refresh the menu
[03:10] <Healot> or logoff/logon again
[03:12] <solomonuk> BluesKaj: its no good Im not sure what Im doing in adept, i requested it's removal and then requested it's install it syas no change i dunno
[03:13] <BluesKaj> ok do what Healot suggested , log out and back in again
[03:14] <solomonuk> actually i think whats installed is just the language package for firefox and not firefox itself
[03:14] <BluesKaj> then check the menu again
[03:14] <solomonuk> okay
[03:14] <BluesKaj> if adept says Firefox  is installed then it should be
[03:16] <solomonuk> nope still no change
[03:18] <BluesKaj> check adept again and make sure that firefox with no suffixes or prefixes is listed as installed
[03:22] <ubuntu_> Hi, I am currently on a Kubuntu live cd and there is an installer on the desktop... if I install Kubuntu will it delete Windows?
[03:24] <sebr> ubuntu_: how confident are you with using a partition manager?
[03:24] <sebr> ubuntu_: if your entire disk is being used by windows, then there is no way of doing it, afaik
[03:24] <ubuntu_> not very, this is my dad's PC
[03:24] <sebr> you will have to resize the disc and make a new partition with the empty space
[03:24] <sebr> not even sure if its possible with ntfs
[03:25] <Healot> ubuntu installer (desktop and alternate) usually will not touch existing partition that has files on it.
[03:25] <Healot> ntfs can be resize with the alternate cd installer...
[03:25] <ubuntu_> I think there is 2 partitions anyway so maybe I won't need to do anything
[03:25] <ubuntu_> brb
[03:26] <BusMaster> hi. i installed Ubuntu and I have the kubuntu CD. I want to install the kde suite from it. how do I do it? I tried adding the cdrom to sources.list;apt-get update;apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. but it simply says package not found
[03:26] <h3sp4wn> ubuntu_: It can be resized with qtparted (easiest way to do it is from the gparted live cd though)
[03:26] <ubuntu_> Healot : a bit like Apple bootcamp?
[03:27] <BluesKaj> h3sp4wn, the gparted is easier to use , but less flexible
[03:29] <h3sp4wn> BlueKaj: I have never used either but do you know if qtparted supports resizing reiserfs ?
[03:31] <grizzly> I am getting this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19011 , when I run the app 'wayv' . Any clues plz ?
[03:31] <grizzly> Also I am using  a suspend2 patched kernel ( if it matters)
[03:32] <BluesKaj> yes h3sp4wn, it's a partition magic clone written for linux ...I don't use it much cuz it's dangerous
[03:32] <blackflag> hello all :)
[03:32] <ubuntu_> how do I see the HDDs?
[03:32] <raphink> ubuntu_: the partitions you mean?
[03:32] <blackflag> I want to copy an audio cd
[03:32] <blackflag> but I can not mount it
[03:33] <ubuntu_> yes raphink
[03:33] <blackflag> what is trhe best way to copy an audio-cd?
[03:33] <ubuntu_> I can see the home folder
[03:33] <blackflag> can someone help?
[03:33] <raphink> ubuntu_: cat /proc/partitions
[03:34] <grizzly> blackflag: dd ?
[03:34] <raphink> blackflag: use K3b
[03:34] <blackflag> I tried K3b but it creates me a 1.1GB iso
[03:35] <raphink> blackflag: huh?
[03:35] <raphink> what did you do?
[03:35] <blackflag> I tried to write an Iso file from cd
[03:35] <raphink> blackflag: what do you want to do? duplicate the CD? extract it? copy it to an iso image?
[03:35] <blackflag> you mean; i did it wrong?
[03:35] <blackflag> copy to iso
[03:36] <raphink> blackflag: then use dd, as grizzly said
[03:36] <MilhousePunkRock> Is there a way to use a bootsplash screen that was created for SUSE?
[03:36] <raphink> that'll be easier
[03:36] <raphink> no MilhousePunkRock
[03:36] <raphink> because SuSE uses bootsplash
[03:36] <raphink> whereas ubuntu uses usplash
[03:36] <grizzly> blackflag: google for "how to do everything with dd" or something
[03:36] <raphink> if you want to use splashy, you can
[03:36] <raphink> but I think y ou need to recompile a kernel for that
[03:36] <raphink> blackflag: or "man dd"
[03:36] <MilhousePunkRock> Aaaah... Thanks for that anyway, raphink
[03:37] <grizzly> I am getting this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19011 , when I run the app 'wayv' . Anybody plz ?
[03:37] <raphink> MilhousePunkRock: SuSE's splashy is kernel-space, whereas usplash is user-space
[03:37] <blackflag> okay Ill try dd
[03:37] <blackflag> but what is when I want to extract it
[03:38] <raphink> blackflag: if you want to extract, you can simply use Konqueror
[03:38] <raphink> with audiocd:/
[03:38] <raphink> it's a very easy way to do it
[03:38] <ubuntu_> I think i'll give up on installing Kubuntu on this PC, too scared of breaking something :) hopefully get round to installing it on a thinkpad someday
[03:38] <BluesKaj> grizzly,what is wayv ?
[03:38] <MilhousePunkRock> Doesn't look like kde-look.org has usplash screens...
[03:38] <grizzly> mouse gestuer app :D
[03:38] <raphink> ubuntu_: too scared of what?
[03:39] <ubuntu_> deleting my dad's data some how
[03:39] <raphink> hehe
[03:39] <ubuntu_> I would put Kubuntu on my intel iMac but the drivers aren't there
[03:39] <MilhousePunkRock> ubuntu_: What kind of ThinkPad? I run it on a T23, if you don't need suspend/resume, everthing is fine
[03:39] <grizzly> ubuntu_: for that try to learn how to backup and restore your mbr, and everything sould be fine
[03:39] <raphink> what drivers ubuntu_?
[03:39] <ubuntu_> drivers in general, wireless and the like
[03:40] <grizzly> BluesKaj: what does that error mean? cld a patched kernel be somehow responsible?
[03:40] <ubuntu_> Milhouse: a X32 hopefully :)
[03:40] <h3sp4wn> ubuntu_: All you need is elilo to boot on the intel imac
[03:40] <blackflag> okay thanks going to try it :))
[03:40] <raphink> ubuntu_: doesn't seem true
[03:40] <BluesKaj> ubuntu_, wha not DL and burn GParted and then boot it up to look at your HDD , then you can resize the NFTS partition  and make room for linux
[03:40] <drbreen_> blueskaj: because the ubuntu live cd has gparted already ?
[03:40] <BluesKaj> ERR NTFS
[03:41] <drbreen_> and kubuntu has qtparted and they bot can resitze ntfs
[03:41] <BluesKaj> better yet :)
[03:41] <ubuntu_> because it's not my PC Blues :P I think it's fat32 anyway (which is probably even easier but err)
[03:41] <ubuntu_> h3sp4wn : link please :)
[03:41] <BluesKaj> I thought it had QTParted , not GParted
[03:41] <tic_> how come my xrandr probe the wrong physical size of my laptop screen? anyone
[03:42] <drbreen_> tic_: what does it say
[03:42] <BluesKaj> what windows OS , ubuntu_ ?
[03:42] <tic_> it says: 0   1280 x 1024   ( 402mm x 302mm )  *50
[03:42] <ubuntu_> XP SP2
[03:42] <BluesKaj> that's NTFS
[03:43] <tic_> my laptop screen is 1400x1050 but when probing that res. it's out of size
[03:43] <tic_> so I guessing it got the physical size wrong
[03:43] <ubuntu_> ahh the reason I thought it might be fat32 is because (for some reason) it's divided into 2 20GB partitions for a total of 40GB
[03:43] <tic_> but I really cant figure out why
[03:44] <h3sp4wn> ubuntu_: Just google elilo imac intel
[03:44] <tic_> drbreen: I think it should be:0   1400 x 1050   ( 474mm x 356mm )  *50
[03:45] <BluesKaj> drbreen_ , GParted has to be installed from the repos , it doesn't come with the install cd
[03:45] <drbreen_> blueskay: oh i di not know that. what is then the program the installer uses ?
[03:45] <BluesKaj> adept
[03:46] <BluesKaj> oh sorry, QTparted I think, not sure tho
[03:46] <raphink> drbreen : the installer is debian-installer
[03:46] <BluesKaj> I used GParted to setup the partitions before installing
[03:47] <raphink> and to partition, it uses partman iirc
[03:47] <raphink> for the console installer
[03:47] <raphink> the graphic install for Ubuntu uses gparted, and qtparted for Kubuntu
[03:48] <h3sp4wn> I thought the live cd installer didnt use debian-installer (would explain why its unreliable often)
[03:48] <BluesKaj> hehe
[03:48] <raphink> the live cd installer is ubiquity
[03:55] <ricardo> hi..does anybody use MATLAB under WINE?
[04:04] <MilhousePunkRock> Hmm, seems kde-look has got a total of 3 usplash themes...
[04:04] <MilhousePunkRock> Is it possible to convert a Bootsplash to usplash? If so, is someone capable of doing that?
[04:06] <danl> how do i give a none root user access to ports below 1024?
[04:07] <ubuntu___> hi guy, i just started play with edgy eft and i see there is a problem with adept
[04:08] <Agios> there are undoubtedly a lot of problems with edgy eft. It is in development status.
[04:08] <ubuntu___> and i want to know is their a workaround for it
[04:08] <Agios> yes, install dapper drake
[04:09] <ubuntu___> i my using the livecd, right now
[04:09] <Melody^> heya how can I install Kubuntu onto a laptop that doesn't have an optical drive?
[04:10] <fannagoganna> !info konversation
[04:10] <ubotu> konversation: user friendly Internet Relay Chat (IRC) client for KDE. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.19-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 4835 kB, installed size 11136 kB
[04:10] <Agios> try apt-get instead of adept
[04:10] <ubuntu___> ok thanx
[04:15] <h3sp4wn> ubuntu___: If you want to use binary drivers (fglrx or nvidia) dont try to use edgy at the moment
[04:15] <ubuntu___> ok thanx
[04:16] <lmodl> hallo
[04:16] <ubuntu___> hi
[04:16] <SeanTater> hello
[04:16] <ricardo> im trying to get MATLAB working under WINE....does anybody knows how to do it without -nojvm?
[04:17] <lmodl> jeli neko iz hr
[04:19] <MilhousePunkRock> !hu
[04:19] <ubotu> Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #ubuntu-hu
[04:19] <lmodl> neko iz bosne
[04:19] <MilhousePunkRock> !pl
[04:19] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[04:19] <MilhousePunkRock> !hr
[04:19] <ubotu> za hrvatski dodjite na #ubuntu-hr, da ne zbunjujete engleze.
[04:21] <blackflag> Hello all .)
[04:21] <blackflag> :)
[04:22] <blackflag> I just trying to burn an iso - image with dd
[04:22] <blackflag> when I do:
[04:22] <blackflag> dd if=/dev/hda of=/tmp/kde-stefan/
[04:22] <blackflag> I get
[04:22] <blackflag> dd: Lesen von ?/dev/hda?: Input/output error
[04:23] <blackflag> Its an audo cd
[04:23] <TD> BluesKaj: poke
[04:23] <blackflag> audio cd
[04:23] <TD> BluesKaj: you there?
[04:23] <blackflag> what is wrong?
[04:24] <blackflag> can someone help?
[04:24] <Gaaston> blackflag: nothing is right
[04:24] <blackflag> okay, what is correct
[04:24] <blackflag> ?
[04:24] <Gaaston> run k3b, that's all
[04:25] <blackflag> but I dont get an iso
[04:25] <blackflag> it makes a copy
[04:25] <Gaaston> k3b burns what you want to burn
[04:25] <Gaaston> iso or not
[04:26] <blackflag> okay, what is the correct way to create an iso?
[04:26] <Gaaston> from what?
[04:26] <blackflag> from an audio cd
[04:27] <DarthPolly> hello
[04:27] <Gaaston> audio CD doesn't contain any iso filesystem
[04:27] <thoreauputic> blackflag: no file system on an audio CD
[04:27] <tic_> howcome I cant get my screen resolution right, xrandr thinks my laptop screen is smaller so my tray is outside the screen when running 1400x1050?
[04:27] <thoreauputic> blackflag: you probably want to copy it / clone it
[04:27] <Gaaston> from an audio CD you can only get audio data's
[04:28] <blackflag> but I wnat to create an image from an audio cd
[04:28] <blackflag> On M$ tzhere was clonecd
[04:28] <Agios> ou rip it then. you will end up with one file er track
[04:29] <Gaaston> blackflag: I think k3b can do that
[04:29] <Agios> one file per track
[04:29] <Gaaston> blackflag: just click "copy CD" and check "only create image"
[04:29] <blackflag> I did that
[04:30] <DarthPolly> I want to install my kubuntu, but the system doesn't recognize my disk. How can I make it work?
[04:30] <blackflag> but its not an image file then
[04:30] <Gaaston> it is files
[04:31] <blackflag> is there no need to create iso's?
[04:31] <GIGANTOR> download ISO from website, burn to disk
[04:31] <GIGANTOR> boot from it
[04:31] <Gaaston> YOU CAN NOT CREATE ISO FROM AUDIO DISK!!!!
[04:32] <GIGANTOR> if you're on a Dell, hit F12 to get your boot options...
[04:32] <Gaaston> there is only sound on audio cd's, no ISO filesystem at all!
[04:32] <tic_> radeontool stretch off decreased my screen how do I adjust it to the right physical size?
[04:32] <thoreauputic> blackflag:  dd if=/dev/crom of=/home/you/dumpedfile  should work too
[04:32] <thoreauputic> erm /dev/cdrom
[04:33] <DarthPolly> Looks like kubuntu has not the right drivers. I'm using a SATAII HD
[04:34] <Gaaston> blackflag: k3b will create wav files for each track on the CD
[04:34] <blackflag> thoreauputic: thats what I did
[04:34] <Gaaston> blackflag: you can burn those files, it will create a good copy
[04:34] <blackflag> I gives me tne an read error I/O error
[04:34] <Gaaston> blackflag, it is not what you did
[04:35] <blackflag> I tried both /dd if=/dev/cdrom an dev/hda
[04:35] <blackflag> all the same
[04:35] <Gaaston> blackflag: what is the problem having one file per track?
[04:36] <thoreauputic> blackflag: yeah, I think if there's no file system it won't do it - just tried it here
[04:36] <blackflag> an image is easy to burn
[04:36] <Gaaston> blackflag: you will just get one image per track :)
[04:37] <Gaaston> you can tar them
[04:37] <blackflag> an image per cd would be much better :)
[04:38] <blackflag> or having the choice to do it
[04:38] <thoreauputic> blackflag: you can rip to a .wav file and use that I think - but k3b will happily duplicate CDs ( I've done it here many times)
[04:38] <BluesKaj> won't k3b copy mp3 files directly ?
[04:39] <blackflag> but I want to pu the image on an FTP
[04:39] <blackflag> so a friend can download it and burn it
[04:39] <Gaaston> cdrdao can do nice image+toc pair
[04:40] <BluesKaj> why not dcc the file to your friend , blackflag...safer
[04:40] <Gaaston> but it's still two files
[04:40] <Ignite_> BluesKaj, try installing libk3b2-mp3 (with sudo apt-get install libk3b2-mp3) if you are wanting to make an audio CD with k3b
[04:40] <thoreauputic> so just archive the files in a bundle - your friend can extract it and burn it
[04:40] <thoreauputic> zip the files
[04:40] <MilhousePunkRock> How do I install a KDM splashscreen from a .tar.bz2?
[04:40] <thoreauputic> if he is using windows
[04:41] <blackflag> okay, Ill try to create a zip
[04:41] <blackflag> ;)
[04:41] <BluesKaj> Ignite_, I was merely wondering why k3b wants to convert mp3 to wav files as default audio files ?
[04:42] <Agios> because the tracks on a CD are wav files.
[04:42] <thoreauputic> standard Cds use .wav
[04:42] <BluesKaj> gonna check the settings ...I don't do mp3 unlewss it's just talk ... I'm a lossless hifi type guy when it comes to music.
[04:43] <gatekeeper> Ignite_: thanx from that usefull gem of info on K3b and mp3 :-)
[04:44] <BluesKaj> yeah , I'm sure most ppl are aware that cds use wav
[04:45] <Gaaston> cd's doesn't really use the .wav format, but the default encoding of wav files is the same (PCM)
[04:45] <BluesKaj> I have this comedy album that doesn't require hifi so I was gonna copy it to mp3 to fit all the tracks that would otherwise be too large for a single cd
[04:46] <BluesKaj> yes Gaaston ..PCM redbook  :)
[04:47] <danl> is there anyway to setup a dns cache on my computer that it will check before checking the dns server?
[04:51] <uniq> danl: yes, take a look at the package 'pdnsd' in the repositories.
[04:51] <danl> thank you uniq
[04:51] <uniq> you're welcome :)
[04:51] <danl> why isps dns server crashes all the time
[04:51] <uniq> having a local cache often makes surfing faster.
[04:52] <danl> omg, perfect, exactly what i needed
[04:54] <MilhousePunkRock> Why do I fail to locate the kdm theme thing in the KDE Control Center?
[04:54] <h3sp4wn> bind9 is not that hard to setup as a caching dns server
[04:55] <danl> uniq, one question, is all the config for it and such cli?
[04:56] <uniq> danl: yes. but don't let that scare you off
[04:57] <danl> it won't i like cli :-) reading the man page now for how to setup
[04:57] <uniq> danl: didn't it setup everything itself?
[04:57] <danl> just making sure :-)
[04:58] <danl> ima lil ocd
[04:58] <danl> so it's good to go now?
[04:59] <uniq> probably, yes.
[04:59] <danl> awesome...
[04:59] <danl> thanks
[04:59] <danl> au revior
[04:59] <uniq> now, just set your primary nameserver to <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:09] <juan> Hi
[05:10] <ricardo> hi
[05:10] <juan> could you tell me how to install java virtual machine in Kubuntu?
[05:10] <juan> if it is possible, of course..
[05:10] <juan> :)
[05:11] <ricardo> does anybody know how to select a default jvm between the installed ones?
[05:13] <juan> HOLA?????
[05:13] <ricardo> hola
[05:14] <juan> hablabas en espaniol, y yo matandome escribiendo en ingles!!
[05:15] <ricardo> es que en realidad hay que hablar ingles ...pero como nadie responde tampoco es tna grave
[05:15] <Skrot> !es
[05:15] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:15] <juan> gracias! but her we dont get help anyway!
[05:16] <ricardo> es el bot...ni le respondas...
[05:16] <juan> jajajaja
[05:16] <gatekeeper> juan: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_J2SE_Runtime_Environment_.28JRE.29_with_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[05:17] <juan> hay 5 monos en el canal espaniol!!
[05:18] <juan> thank you gatekeeper!!!!!!!!!
[05:18] <gatekeeper> juan: yw :-)
[05:19] <gatekeeper> juan: to can teach me spanish I need to learn it :-)
[05:19] <gatekeeper> juan: ooops you can teach me spanish I need to learn it :-)
[05:19] <juan> ok, with pleasuare!!
[05:21] <juan> where are you from gate?
[05:26] <Buczeq> yoo
[05:29] <deuce868> anyone know how to get the laptop hardware keys for volume going in kubuntu for an HP 5000 series?
[05:29] <deuce868> I see a couple laptop button packages, but nadda for HP
[05:30] <abattoir> deuce868: pavillion?
[05:30] <deuce868> yea
[05:31] <BluesKaj> deuce868, have you checked system settings / regional accessibility/ keyboard settings /keboard  hardware list
[05:31] <deuce868> I swear this volume should go higher than it is, but the sound is maxed in the app and in the panel volume aplet
[05:31] <abattoir> deuce868: Kcontrol->Regional and Accessibility->Keyboard layout->Keyboard model
[05:32] <deuce868> abattoir, ok, I gotcha. I don't see my model, but maybe something is close.
[05:32] <BluesKaj> see? , great minds think alike ...I won't finish the phrase since it's so negative :)
[05:33] <deuce868> abattoir, this will work for keys above the keyboard though? the ones in row with the power button?
[05:33] <abattoir> deuce868: yeah, just take the pavillion entry there, should work :)
[05:33] <abattoir> BluesKaj: heh :)
[05:33] <BluesKaj> parts of my compaq KB buttons work , but not all ...at least the vol and mute buttons do
[05:36] <kalm> hello, gam_server use 10% of my cpu, is it really necessary,how can I remove it ( remove the package is impossible cause of the dependancies)
[05:40] <grizzly> mount -a gives:  /de/hdc does not exist . Now how can I know where my cdrom device is ?
[05:42] <grizzly> as in , what should put in mount /dev/*** /mnt/cd to mount my cd ?
[05:42] <grizzly> is there any command/ proc file to know this ?
[05:50] <Agios> kalm: I mv gam_server gam_server.dead and kill -9 <pid of gam_server>
[05:51] <kalm> Oo
[05:52] <kalm> so removed it
[05:52] <kalm> is it safe, what are the consequencies
[05:52] <Agios> I would have renamed it so you had a copy just in case. But whatever.
[05:53] <Agios> I haven't seen any negative consequences. Did it a couple of weeks ago.
[05:55] <kalm> ok, thanks, that's strange
[05:57] <deuce868> sweet, volume buttons now working. Thanks abattoir
[05:57] <abattoir> deuce868: nice :), i read about your other message only later..
[05:57] <abattoir> deuce868: i dont think those buttons will work... you can manually map them though
[05:58] <abattoir> *read your other message, rather
[06:00] <_Shade_> I need some good p2p clients for ubuntu. Could you advice some ?
[06:00] <tristanmike> Azureus, limewire, nicotine
[06:01] <tristanmike> ktorrent
[06:01] <abattoir> apollon too
[06:01] <tristanmike> oh, yeah, forgot about that one ;)
[06:01] <abattoir> :)
[06:02] <_Shade_> apollon doesn't work for me :(
[06:03] <abattoir> _Shade_: any errors?
[06:03] <_Shade_> "i couldn't locate your gIFT installation (...)"
[06:03] <_Shade_> it has been installed though
[06:04] <abattoir> _Shade_: aah, that's a common thing.. did you try manually pointing it to the gift libs?
[06:04] <_Shade_> i don't know how can i do it
[06:05] <abattoir> _Shade_: sorry, dont have it installed currently, so dont know the exact steps, but somewhere in Configure Apollon
[06:05] <abattoir> it's also a long time since i used it
[06:05] <_Shade_> abattoir: and how can i locate my gIFT path ?
[06:05] <abattoir> something under plugins, i guess
[06:05] <abattoir> _Shade_: iirc, /usr/lib/giFT ?
[06:06] <abattoir> _Shade_: could you give me a few minutes, am dist-upgrading, after that i'll install apollon and tell you exactly..
[06:06] <_Shade_> abattoir: sure
[06:06] <abattoir> _Shade_: i'll ping you when i've got it...
[06:07] <abattoir> _Shade_: btw, you installed it from the repos?
[06:07] <_Shade_> abattoir: yeah
[06:07] <GIGANTOR> has anyone here installed vmware player through Adept?
[06:07] <abattoir> _Shade_: does it have the fasttrack plugin?
[06:07] <abattoir> _Shade_: cause i remember compiling that
[06:08] <Seikon> sers
[06:08] <_Shade_> i have no idea... to be honest
[06:09] <JonB> hi, i tried both the normal and safe mode in graphics and it appears my kubuntu 6.06 does not reach the X11 desktop
[06:09] <obf213> anyone have any idea why my wifi can find my homenetwork but all of a sudden wont connect
[06:09] <abattoir> _Shade_: oh, ok
[06:09] <abattoir> JonB: the live cd?
[06:10] <_Shade_> my kubuntu goes extremelly unstable after a try of launching apollon... could be a reboot needed
[06:10] <JonB> abattoir: i dont think so
[06:10] <JonB> abattoir: filename is kubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso
[06:11] <abattoir> JonB: then an installed version?
[06:11] <abattoir> JonB: yes, that's the live CD :)
[06:11] <JonB> abattoir: i'm trying to install it
[06:11] <JonB> abattoir: okay
[06:11] <abattoir> JonB: you entered 'Start Kubuntu' right?
[06:11] <abattoir> on bootup, that is
[06:12] <JonB> abattoir: there was some menu system at boot and i choosed the top one and the 2. one i guess they were start kubuntu and start kubuntu save graphics
[06:12] <MilhousePunkRock> Re everyone
[06:12] <abattoir> JonB: are you on very old hardware? any errors?
[06:12] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: hi :)
[06:13] <JonB> abattoir: it does not seem to progress beyond the kubuntu logo and the blue bar
[06:13] <abattoir> JonB: do you know what the last message displayed is?
[06:13] <JonB> abattoir: p3 1ghz, matrox g400 agp
[06:13] <JonB> abattoir: i'll boot again and check
[06:13] <abattoir> JonB: it should work w/ that...
[06:14] <JonB> abattoir: the messages disappear
[06:14] <JonB> abattoir: i have 2 other pci cards in it
[06:14] <abattoir> JonB: do you get a shell prompt
[06:14] <JonB> abattoir: pci graphics cards that is
[06:14] <MilhousePunkRock> finally it's raining here...
[06:14] <abattoir> JonB: aah, that *might* explain it
[06:14] <JonB> abattoir: but i want to use my 5 monitors
[06:15] <JonB> abattoir: i can get to a console if i press ctrl+alt+f1
[06:15] <abattoir> JonB: did you try to start X manually?
[06:15] <JonB> abattoir: yes, startx, but that did not appear to work either
[06:16] <MilhousePunkRock> How do I find the kdm theme manager the howto for the KDM Screen I want to install mentions?
[06:16] <abattoir> JonB: any specific errors?
[06:16] <JonB> abattoir: i guess i should try to find a screw driver and temporarely remove the extra graphics cards
[06:16] <JonB> abattoir: i dont remember, let me get back to you when it has booted up
[06:16] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: i think it is a separate program, found in kde-apps/kde-look
[06:17] <abattoir> JonB: yes, i'd suggest you do the former first :)
[06:17] <JonB> abattoir: ps ax does not appear to show any X process
[06:17] <JonB> abattoir: it is in console now
[06:17] <antonnio> how to know what addresses and protocols use msn messanger to work ?
[06:17] <MilhousePunkRock> thx abattoir, I'll look there
[06:18] <_Shade_> abattoir: i've pointed the gIFT location, but there's an error anyways
[06:19] <abattoir> _Shade_: a different one?
[06:19] <abattoir> _Shade_: did you run the gift-setup tool ?
[06:19] <JonB> abattoir: the Xorg.0.log file seems to suggest it starts with a pci card, device S3 inc 86c764/765 trio32/64/64V+
[06:19] <_Shade_> abattoir: no
[06:19] <_Shade_> should i ? :)
[06:19] <MilhousePunkRock> Re _Shade_
[06:19] <abattoir> _Shade_: close apollon, and do that, might work :)
[06:20] <JonB> abattoir: i did try to switch to another vga out, but that did not work
[06:20] <_Shade_> MilhousePunkRock: 'ey :)
[06:21] <doppelganger> whats the pastebin url?
[06:21] <JonB> abattoir: i'll try with that screw driver
[06:21] <abattoir> !pastebin
[06:21] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:21] <abattoir> JonB: :)
[06:21] <MilhousePunkRock> http://pastebin.ca is a fast and reliable one
[06:21] <abattoir> Hawkwind_Lappy: internet problems?
[06:21] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: "This is only for Breezy since the kcontrol-kdmtheme package is already in Dapper (since 1.0.1)."
[06:21] <Hawkwind> abattoir: Yes :(
[06:22] <JonB> abattoir: i was expecting it to try the AGP card first though
[06:22] <Hawkwind> abattoir: I think they almost have it fixed though
[06:22] <abattoir> !info kcontrol-kdmtheme
[06:22] <ubotu> kcontrol-kdmtheme: a theme manager for KDM. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.1-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 74 kB, installed size 220 kB
[06:22] <antonnio> i want to configure msn messanger into my firewall using iptables and not proxy server, what protocols and address use msn messanger to let it to work
[06:22] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: ^^^^
[06:22] <MilhousePunkRock> Ah, optional... Time to meet my friend apt-get
[06:23] <_Shade_> abattoir: denied operation (1) - that's the error message
[06:23] <doppelganger> alright, well i'll wait in line  ;)
[06:23] <abattoir> _Shade_: for gift-setup ?
[06:23] <_Shade_> i did what you said but it comes to nothing
[06:23] <abattoir> _
[06:23] <abattoir> _Shade_: you mean there is no cmd like that?
[06:23] <_Shade_> abattoir: gift setup gives 1 as well
[06:24] <doppelganger> if anyone else (i see abattoir is busy) can sort through this and tell me what i should, i'd be much in debt to you.   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19020
[06:24] <abattoir> _Shade_: ok, let me first get these downloads done... then i'll install it and get back to you :)
[06:24] <doppelganger> i'm installing vmware-player
[06:25] <abattoir> doppelganger: i think you need the kernel source
[06:25] <doppelganger> which hangs in adept at 33%, and when i hit show details it's stopping at the license agreement. So i apt-get it, and this is what i end up with
[06:25] <abattoir> !info linux-source
[06:25] <ubotu> linux-source: Linux kernel source with Ubuntu patches. In repository main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS> (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[06:26] <lens> I just installed KDE yesterday and I love it, but when I click on add / remove programs the choices are so LIMITED compared to gnome, how do I populate the programs to add?
[06:26] <doppelganger> thank you abattoir, i'll give it a whirl
[06:27] <MilhousePunkRock> lens If you know what you are looking for, you can always try adept or apt-get
[06:27] <lens> MilhousePunkRock... ok, what about synaptic?  where is it?
[06:28] <doppelganger> whew, this is gonna take a while  ;P
[06:28] <abattoir> doppelganger: you might also need the linux-headers-<arch> package
[06:28] <MilhousePunkRock> I think it's not there by default... try "sudo apt-get install synaptic" on the console, lens
[06:28] <uniq> lens: go to kmenu -> system -> adept
[06:28] <abattoir> lens: you have universe/multiverse enabled right?
[06:28] <lens> ok
[06:28] <lens> yes
[06:29] <lens> according to the kde unoffical FAQ
[06:29] <abattoir> lens: aah ok, you were in add/remove progs... :P
[06:29] <lens> yes.
[06:29] <xylus_> > hey guys
[06:29] <xylus_> [09:26]  <xylus__> i have build essential but i still cant play avi files
[06:29] <xylus_> [09:26]  <xylus__> what should i get?
[06:29] <xylus_> [09:27]  <xylus__> also ny idea how to extract or burn bin cue files with linx i havent tryed yet but im sure i need something
[06:29] <bunta> Small question, how can I install kubuntu using a netimage? (mini.iso)
[06:29] <lens> ok, I will look at adept now.
[06:29] <MilhousePunkRock> xylus_: what kind of avi? divx? xvid?
[06:29] <obf213> anyone know of any other dual core cpu monitor besides wmsmpmon
[06:30] <eeos> hi there
[06:30] <uniq> xylus_: use k3b to burn bin/cue.
[06:30] <xylus_> im not sure milhose
[06:30] <xylus_> it just says avi
[06:30] <eeos> are there problems in using cups on kubuntu 6.06?
[06:30] <obf213> maybe one that can dock and nothave to be in the toolbar
[06:30] <uniq> obf213: htop (console, but very good)
[06:30] <bunta> guys? :o
[06:30] <eeos> I cannot install the printer
[06:30] <obf213> uniq what does that mean
[06:30] <abattoir> xylus_: i though all your files played yesterday...
[06:30] <obf213> is that a command i enter in the console
[06:30] <xylus_> any way to just simpley extract bin cue files?
[06:30] <xylus_> abattoir no i o nly tryed dvd
[06:30] <uniq> obf213: yes.
[06:30] <xylus_> i just downloaded a avi file
[06:31] <xylus_> and it wont play i get sound but no vid
[06:31] <obf213> command htop not found
[06:31] <obf213> do apt get it or soething
[06:31] <abattoir> xylus_: werent you the person who downloaded 'essential' from mplayerhq ?
[06:31] <uniq> obf213: correct, apt-get it.
[06:31] <xylus_> yeah that was me
[06:31] <xylus_> i have build essential on here
[06:31] <abattoir> xylus_: you are playing in kaffeine
[06:31] <xylus_> yes
[06:31] <abattoir> xylus_: well, that is not build-essential :)
[06:32] <abattoir> xylus_: have libxine-extracodecs installed?
[06:32] <Viper550> Hello everyone!
[06:32] <bunta> guys? ;o
[06:32] <uniq> !netinstall > bunta
[06:32] <uniq> gah.
[06:33] <MilhousePunkRock> xylus_: maybe you need the divx or xvid codec
[06:33] <lens> I went to adept but it looks the same as add/remove programs and "sudo apt-get install synaptic" doesn't work :(
[06:34] <systest> Expect it's a faq, but can't seem to find the docs to configure printing.  Would some one please direct me to the right doc?
[06:34] <abattoir> lens: you have gnome and kde both installed right?
[06:34] <lens> I don't think Gnome is installed.
[06:35] <abattoir> lens: what does 'sudo apt-get install synaptic' say?
[06:35] <lens> this is fresh install from a kubuntu DVD
[06:35] <obf213> uniq i ran command htop after the apt get and nothign happens
[06:35] <abattoir> lens: pastebin the error if it is long
[06:36] <abattoir> !paste
[06:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:36] <MilhousePunkRock> lens Did you update your sources list?
[06:36] <MilhousePunkRock> !sources list
[06:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about sources list - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:36] <MilhousePunkRock> !sources
[06:36] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:36] <MilhousePunkRock> !easysource
[06:36] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:36] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: synaptic should be in main
[06:36] <abattoir> !info synaptic
[06:36] <lens> It's not very long... it says...
[06:36] <lens> hasmademethirsty@A-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install synaptic
[06:36] <lens> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:36] <ubotu> synaptic: Graphical package manager. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.57.8ubuntu11 (dapper), package size 1011 kB, installed size 5384 kB
[06:36] <lens> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[06:37] <abattoir> lens: ok, close adept/add/remove programes
[06:37] <MilhousePunkRock> Iens, you need to close adept when running apt-get
[06:37] <Viper550> erm, sudo apt-get update
[06:37] <abattoir> *programs
[06:37] <lens> abattoir ok
[06:37] <ubuntu> hello\
[06:37] <Viper550> I used to make that stupid mistake sometimes under Ubuntu
[06:37] <uniq> obf213: from within konsole?
[06:37] <obf213> o no
[06:38] <obf213> i ran in run command
[06:39] <obf213> linux seems extremely innefficient with dual cores
[06:39] <lens> abbattoir ok, I closed adept, now I got a new error : the package is missing, obsolete or available from another source.
[06:39] <obf213> all im doing is ripping a cd and one cpu is at 95 or something
[06:39] <abattoir> obf213: you have the 686 kernel?
[06:39] <ubuntu> hola cabrones
[06:39] <ubuntu> pr0n
[06:39] <obf213> yes, or htop wouldnt show two processors
[06:39] <ubuntu> porn
[06:39] <obf213> Sysinfo for 'timi-laptop': Linux 2.6.15-26-686 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU<EMAIL_ADDRESS>at 1997 MHz (3994 bogomips), , RAM: 750/1001MB, 122 proc's, 44.33min up
[06:40] <abattoir> aah, obf213 is timi
[06:40] <MilhousePunkRock> Re timi
[06:40] <obf213> hey
[06:40] <lens> abbattoir I did 'add extra repositories' from the KDE FAQ, I figured it would add universe and multiverse.
[06:40] <ironfroggy> I am trying to print something with the 2-per-page option, but the preview is still just showing me one-page each. is there a way to see a preview of this?
[06:40] <abattoir> lens: ok, enable repositories, as MilhousePunkRock said
[06:40] <abattoir> !source-o-matic > lens
[06:41] <_Shade_> abattoir: how long will it last yet ?
[06:41] <abattoir> lens: i guess you have the dvd local repo alone enabled, and not main from the ubuntu archives
[06:42] <lens> abattoir OK, so if I follow the directions on the link you gave me, I should be ok?
[06:42] <abattoir> _Shade_: :P, its a big download on my slow connection... :(
[06:42] <abattoir> _Shade_: else could you check back tomorrow?
[06:42] <abattoir> lens: yes, enable most of the repos, you'll need to do them in the future anyways
[06:43] <xylus__> hey ab
[06:43] <xylus__> i donwloaded mplayer via atp
[06:43] <abattoir> lens: stuff like universe, multiverse, latest-amarok, latest-kde etc.
[06:43] <xylus__> but its not listend under kmenu
[06:43] <xylus__> where would i find the executeable or link at bro?>
[06:43] <lens> abattoir... ok, shit, if I install the wrong repos it can mess stuff up can't it?
[06:43] <xylus__> also its not listed under kde componnents also nor is divx formats :(
[06:44] <xylus__> naw just install the right ones lens
[06:44] <xylus__> change yr .list file
[06:44] <xylus__> to whats on the ubuntu website
[06:44] <_Shade_> abattoir: ok
[06:44] <lens> abattoir should I check Include updates and include security updates?
[06:45] <xylus__> where do i find mplayer ;(
[06:45] <xylus__> its installed
[06:45] <xylus__> not listed in kmenu :(
[06:45] <Dodger> i've got it under Multimedia
[06:45] <_Shade_> abattoir: or i can get another p2p... the problem is i don't know any except limewire, but there's no limewire on the repos
[06:47] <lens> abattoir, my biggest problem is I'm not sure if doing stuff the 'gnome way' is going to screw up this KDE install... I WOULD just go to the huge ubuntu wiki and install repo's that way but I'm worried that if I do it the "gnome way" it will mess up KDE?
[06:48] <lens> is it safe to use the huge Ubuntu wiki with KDE?
[06:48] <MilhousePunkRock> lens: Everything "under the hood" is the same for all *untus
[06:49] <lens> gotchya... ok, then I know how to enable the repositories my prefered way... thank you!
[06:49] <Viper550> Yes, Kubuntu just comes with KDE by default, Ubuntu comes with Gnome, and Xubuntu comes with XFCE
[06:49] <MilhousePunkRock> Does anyone have experiences with e17?
[06:50] <MuJ> yes.. /join #e
[06:50] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: What do you need to know about it ? (I use it soley stopped using kde)
[06:50] <MilhousePunkRock> Nah, that was a "just in case" question...
[06:51] <MilhousePunkRock> Or rather: h3sp4wn, is it any good?
[06:51] <eeos> hi there. I have roblems with cups under kubuntu 6.06
[06:52] <eeos> I cannot even see localhost:631 unde konqueror
[06:52] <h3sp4wn> Its fine seems reasonably stable in normal use (The only time you get any crashes is if you are messing with it alot) its fast (even though it is considered pre alpha its alot more stable than most pre alpha software)
[06:52] <eeos> any cluee?
[06:53] <MilhousePunkRock> h3sp4wn: I am going to use it with the other distro I will set up soon...
[06:54] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: Any distro that includes e17 will be quite out of date (best to build from cvs as its changing so much)
[06:54] <Viper550> Anyone remember my Kubuntu Purple mockup?
[06:54] <MilhousePunkRock> h3sp4wn: Yeah, it won't come with it... I'll roll my own.
[06:57] <cotroler> !nvidia
[06:57] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:00] <abattoir> sorry guys
[07:00] <abattoir> !limewire > _Shade_
[07:01] <Viper550> Guess what, I just uploaded a tar.gz of my Kubuntu Edgy mockup!
[07:02] <MilhousePunkRock> !kdm
[07:02] <abattoir> Viper550: care to give a link?
[07:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about kdm - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:02] <Viper550> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Kubuntu-Edgy-Ideas
[07:02] <abattoir> or is it in kwwii's incoming page?
[07:02] <abattoir> oh ok
[07:02] <Viper550> It's the last one on the bottom
[07:02] <abattoir> Viper550: do you know if you are allowed to put it there?
[07:02] <abattoir> Viper550: have you tried speak w/ kwwii ?
[07:02] <Viper550> Yes, everyone was putting their ideas there!
[07:03] <cotroler> what is Kubuntu Edgy mockup??
[07:03] <abattoir> hmm, ok
[07:04] <cotroler> I have a wireless NIC..can i get that to work in kubuntu?
[07:04] <MilhousePunkRock> sure cotroler
[07:04] <MilhousePunkRock> If you can give a little more info...
[07:04] <cotroler> k give me a minute
[07:05] <ubuntu> hello
[07:05] <MilhousePunkRock> Hmm, I feel real noobish again... But what is a "valid kdm theme archive"?
[07:07] <cotroler> MilhousePunkRock: It is: KCORP Lifestyle Wireless PCI Desktop KLG-530 108g+
[07:08] <MilhousePunkRock> That does not help much yet, cotroler... What's the chipset?
[07:08] <cotroler> MilhousePunkRock: erm...how do i check?
[07:08] <MilhousePunkRock> The homepage of the manufacturer should have that info, or maybe the manual that came with it?
[07:09] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: Still there?
[07:09] <cotroler> MilhousePunkRock: k tnx...can u give me an example so i will know when i find it??
[07:09] <h3sp4wn> cotoler: Look at the card see who makes the chip but it looks like atheros to me (at a guess)
[07:10] <MilhousePunkRock> could be atheros, prism, orinoco, intel B something...
[07:10] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: yes
[07:10] <cotroler> k ill check :)
[07:10] <MilhousePunkRock> Usually that's stated pretty clear, like Chipset: Atheros
[07:11] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: How do I untar a file again so that it keeps all the permissions and hidden files?
[07:11] <obf213> my comp used to tell me the status of the battery and if it was plugged in or not
[07:11] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: tar -xvzf file ? permissions and hidden files?
[07:12] <obf213> its not there anymore so i installed klaptop daemon but i cnt run it through command, how do i open it
[07:12] <Blissex> obf213: make sure your 'lm_sensors' setup is right by running 'sensors' at the command line first.
[07:13] <obf213> no sensors found...
[07:13] <obf213> it used to tell me my battery
[07:14] <Blissex> obf213: then try running 'ksensors' from the command line
[07:14] <abattoir> obf213: 'acpi' ?
[07:14] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: Now that gives me weird feedback
[07:14] <MilhousePunkRock> obf213: Install Kpowersave
[07:14] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: what are you trying to extract?
[07:14] <obf213> alright ill try those
[07:14] <cotroler> http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=101790  - i cant see to find the chipset, not even on the card or manual :|
[07:14] <obf213> my widget still shows me my power
[07:15] <obf213> ksensors command not found
[07:15] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: rt.click->Extract in konqueror should do for most situations...
[07:15] <MilhousePunkRock> login-scan-fusion-0-3-1.tar.gz2
[07:15] <chabin[No_LiMiT] > hi all
[07:15] <obf213> acpi  works
[07:15] <obf213> what wa the little icon that was docked in my toolbar by the clock
[07:15] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: aah, i remember that one... dont you just open that file w/ the manager?
[07:15] <obf213> how do i get that back
[07:16] <MilhousePunkRock> The archive? I might try that...
[07:16] <chabin[No_LiMiT] > how can i connect to internet with my wireless card with guarddog ??
[07:16] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: yes
[07:16] <cotroler> MilhousePunkRock: found it
[07:16] <cotroler> Hardware  Chipset  RF: AR2112
[07:16] <cotroler>  BB/MAC: AR5212
[07:16] <chabin[No_LiMiT] > i configured guarddog but how can i connect with my wireless connection ?
[07:17] <chabin[No_LiMiT] > i need help please
[07:18] <abattoir> obf213: klaptop_check
[07:18] <MilhousePunkRock> cotroler: OK, if it would have been an Ath chipset, I could have assisted you... You should use google in a manner like "linux ar2112 driver" to see if there are native drivers for it
[07:18] <MilhousePunkRock> I know nothing about Guarddog
[07:18] <chabin[No_LiMiT] > ok MilhousePunkRock
[07:18] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: it worked?
[07:19] <MilhousePunkRock> cotroler: See if h3sp4wn can help you...
[07:19] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: Yeah, it did, stupid me... That's why it prompted me for an ARCHIVE
[07:19] <abattoir> :)
[07:19] <cotroler> MilhousePunkRock: tnx
[07:20] <h3sp4wn> AR2112 is atheros
[07:20] <abattoir> hmm, who would need windows and gates in a world w/o walls and fences, iirc
[07:21] <cotroler> h3sp4wn: tnx so i got atheros driver....what must i do now???
[07:22] <chudy_> dpkg: bd przetwarzania /home/chudy/desktop/opera2.deb (--install):
[07:22] <chudy_>  brak dostpu do archiwum: Nie ma takiego pliku ani katalogu
[07:23] <chudy_> Wystpiy bdy podczas przetwarzania:
[07:23] <chudy_>  /home/chudy/desktop/opera2.deb
[07:23] <chudy_> root@chudy:~# dpkg -i /home/chudy/Desktop/opera2.deb
[07:23] <chudy_> dpkg: bd przetwarzania /home/chudy/Desktop/opera2.deb (--install):
[07:23] <chudy_>  brak dostpu do archiwum: Nie ma takiego pliku ani katalogu
[07:23] <chudy_> Wystpiy bdy podczas przetwarzania:
[07:23] <chudy_>  /home/chudy/Desktop/opera2.deb
[07:23] <abattoir> !paste > chudy_
[07:24] <abattoir> !pl
[07:24] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[07:26] <coachJ> what is the command to check to see I am getting 3d out of my card??
[07:26] <abattoir> glxgears ?
[07:26] <trappist> glxinfo | grep rendering
[07:26] <abattoir> :P
[07:26] <Alcapond> Hi, when trying to boot the installation cd, I get the message [4295412.93600]  Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block 7291 - with small alterings, I get this message over and over again. What is the problem? Thx
[07:26] <coachJ> that fot me?
[07:26] <trappist> yes
[07:27] <trappist> Alcapond: bad cd
[07:27] <abattoir> Alcapond: scratched / badly burned cd ?
[07:27] <Alcapond> trappist: abattoir: ok, I try with a new cd...
[07:27] <coachJ> what should it show?
[07:27] <Alcapond> Thx
[07:27] <trappist> coachJ: Yes
[07:28] <coachJ> says no
[07:28] <coachJ>  i dont get it
[07:28] <coachJ> have ati 8500
[07:28] <trappist> coachJ: then you don't have hw acceleration
[07:29] <trappist> coachJ: make sure you've installed linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) and that the 'driver' line in the device section of your xorg.conf says fglrx instead of ati
[07:29] <coachJ> k
[07:29] <trappist> !ati
[07:29] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:29] <trappist> and, check that out
[07:30] <coachJ> thks
[07:30] <coachJ> sits are down again??
[07:30] <coachJ> sites
[07:31] <trappist> looks that way
[07:31] <trappist> lame.
[07:32] <coachJ> sucks
[07:32] <trappist> my instructions should get you going though
[07:32] <coachJ> thanks guys ill try later
[07:32] <abattoir> coachJ: or you could get google's cache
[07:32] <abattoir> *cached version
[07:33] <coachJ> just google it
[07:33] <abattoir> google the link, and click on the 'cached version'
[07:33] <coachJ> k
[07:37] <cotroler> !mount
[07:37] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[07:37] <cotroler> !auto mount
[07:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about auto mount - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:39] <cotroler> !AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[07:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about AutomaticallyMountPartitions - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:39] <gatekeeper> cotroler: to mount on startup you need to modify fstab
[07:41] <cotroler> gatekeeper: tnx a lot ( i did that yesterday but i forgot... today i formatted cause i got 32bit linux ;)
[07:41] <gatekeeper> cotroler: :-)
[07:42] <gatekeeper> cotroler: a usefull link for you: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html
[07:43] <cotroler> gatekeeper: thats what i wanted :P tnx
[07:44] <gatekeeper> cotroler: yw :-)
[07:47] <PounK_> hello, when I try to add an  printer share by a windows to kubuntu, the option smb is in gray ( I can't chose it)
[07:53] <xst> I try to burn some mp3 in "audio format" with k3b but k3b claims that the mp3 is an "unsupported fileformat". Strange, as I can play mp3's just fine with amarok. How do I make k3b accept mp3-files?
[07:53] <divansantana> apt-get install k3b-mp3
[07:53] <divansantana> tada
[07:54] <divansantana> sudo apt-get install k3b-mp3
[07:56] <doppelganger> hey again guys.  Abattoir-  you told me to download the linux-headers-<arch> package
[07:56] <doppelganger> what does the arch mean in that?
[07:56] <rr72> prolly i386
[07:56] <rr72> or i586
[07:57] <xst> divansantana: Thanks!
[07:57] <rr72> its in uname somewhere
[07:57] <rr72> its iX86
[07:57] <rr72> x is a number thats ur archecture
[07:57] <rr72> doppelganger is gig?
[08:03] <doppelganger> yeah
[08:04] <cotroler> which were the applications which dont work in kubuntu.....    .run or .rpm ?
[08:04] <doppelganger> man...  vmware is hating on me
[08:04] <doppelganger> worked fine on my machine at home  =\
[08:05] <Gioacchino> hello'
[08:05] <cotroler> which were the applications which dont work in kubuntu.....    .run or .rpm ?
[08:05] <Gioacchino> I have A  problem with thunderbird
[08:06] <divansantana> whats prob?
[08:06] <Gioacchino> when I start it it tell me : Mozilla-Thunderbird is already running, but not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Mozilla-Thunderbird process, or restart your sistem.
[08:06] <divansantana> have u restarted then?
[08:06] <Gioacchino> yesterday it work perfectli
[08:06] <lens> what is the kde equivelent of file roller?
[08:06] <Gioacchino> noe it  not work..
[08:07] <divansantana> if u restart it should work
[08:07] <cotroler> !.run
[08:07] <ubotu> I know nothing about .run - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:07] <cotroler> !run
[08:07] <Gioacchino> I had restart the computer vut it not work
[08:07] <divansantana> else type rm .thunderbird/.lock from your home directory
[08:07] <ubotu> I know nothing about run - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:07] <divansantana> tada
[08:07] <divansantana> rm .thunderbird/.lock
[08:07] <Gioacchino> else type rm .thunderbird/.lock from your home directory  I had delete it but non work..
[08:08] <divansantana> !wine
[08:08] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:08] <rr72> cotroler~ both work
[08:08] <doppelganger> frickin VMWARE can kiss my mofo'n @#$@#$
[08:08] <rr72> .run is a binary execatavle
[08:08] <divansantana> vmware what is prob???
[08:08] <rr72> *excutable
[08:08] <BluesKaj> hehe doppelganger...no kidding !
[08:08] <doppelganger> won't install properly, for some reason
[08:08] <rr72> and .rpm is fedora package
[08:09] <divansantana> have u considered u upgrading kernel could have broken it, need to rerun vmware-config.pl
[08:09] <rr72> install alien to use rpm
[08:09] <lens> does anyone know the KED equivelent of file roller?
[08:09] <doppelganger> div- i just ran it, thats where i'm stuck at
[08:09] <divansantana> are u using run.pl? u should
[08:09] <divansantana> u should use that before
[08:09] <divansantana> have you install kernel-headers and build-essentials?
[08:09] <divansantana> which vmware?
[08:10] <divansantana> :)
[08:10] <doppelganger> !pastebin
[08:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:10] <rr72> !alien
[08:10] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[08:11] <cotroler> rr72: i think its better not fiddle with .rpm then
[08:11] <doppelganger> see what you can make of this-   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19030
[08:11] <doppelganger> i have the headers, and i *think* build essentials, lemme check
[08:11] <Gioacchino> help me
[08:12] <Gioacchino> portable thunderbid with wine  ork but linux thunderbird not work..
[08:12] <Gioacchino> !thunderbird
[08:12] <ubotu> a FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60427
[08:12] <Gioacchino> help me
[08:12] <BluesKaj> Gioacchino, did u try uninstalling T-bird, rebooting and reinstalling it ?
[08:13] <Gioacchino> yes I had try
[08:13] <BluesKaj> with adept
[08:13] <Gioacchino> but wwhen I copy the profile it dont work
[08:13] <Gioacchino> but portable thunderbird with = profile work..
[08:13] <BluesKaj> copy what profile ?
 copy what profile ?  yes the backu of my thunderbird profile
[08:14] <unix_infidel> can anyone help me out i just got this motherboard replaced but now sound isnt working.
[08:15] <unix_infidel> it works on Windows and on the dapper live cd but not in this breezy install.
[08:15] <BluesKaj> don't copy it ...re type all the settings... it's a bit of work, but it 'll prolly work
[08:16] <Gioacchino>  don't copy it ...re type all the settings... it's a bit of work, but it 'll prolly work                but all my email ??
[08:16] <unix_infidel> i've tried using alsaconf but that binary doesnt exist in kubuntu
[08:16] <crimsun> correct, we don't ship alsaconf.
[08:16] <crimsun> what's the issue?
[08:16] <unix_infidel> crimsun: i just got a motherboard replaced in this thinkpad.
[08:16] <crimsun> unix_infidel: which TP?
[08:17] <unix_infidel> sound worked fine before i got it replaced and it works fine in windows and on the dapper live cd.
[08:17] <unix_infidel> crimsun: t42
[08:17] <unix_infidel> all modules are loaded.
[08:17] <Gioacchino> BluesKaj: the received email how to use it ??
[08:17] <cotroler> what was the command to install wine pls?
[08:17] <unix_infidel> crimsun: kernel 2.6.12-9-386
[08:18] <BluesKaj> Gioacchino, is your email saved on the server for a day or a few days in your windows settings ?
[08:18] <unix_infidel> i've tried remodprobing the module....messing with alsamixer.
[08:18] <unix_infidel> everything is as it should be...except something isnt.
[08:18] <BluesKaj> cotroler, sudo apt-get install wine
[08:19] <BluesKaj> or use adept
[08:19] <crimsun> unix_infidel: not using dapper['s kernel] ?
[08:19] <unix_infidel> crimsun: like i said this is a breezy install.
[08:19] <unix_infidel> the sound worked fine before i replaced the motherboard.
[08:19] <cotroler> BluesKaj: tnx
[08:19] <crimsun> unix_infidel: I didn't read the breezy part
[08:20] <unix_infidel> crimsun: np, i'm bumfuzzled.
[08:20] <unix_infidel> any help is appreciated.
[08:20] <drayen_> anyone else experanceing really instabilty with firefox in kubuntu 64?
[08:20] <crimsun> unix_infidel: so which module are you using?
[08:20] <BluesKaj> cotroler, did it install ok ?
 Gioacchino, is your email saved on the server for a day or a few days in your windows settings ?  no the mail is only on my pc with thunderbird and it il more day ( 2 years... )
[08:20] <doppelganger> whoever design krfb needs a kick in the groin.
[08:20] <unix_infidel> snd_intel8x0
[08:20] <unix_infidel> snd                    48644  6 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer
[08:20] <unix_infidel> ubuntu automatically recognized the device and added those modules.
[08:21] <cotroler> BluesKaj: Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package
[08:21] <cotroler> BluesKaj: ill try adept
[08:21] <BluesKaj> yup cotroler, that's prolly the other package
[08:22] <cotroler> drayen: yes i did had instability...i just got the 32bit kubuntu and now works perfect
[08:25] <doppelganger> i wish i could kick linus in the jimm
[08:25] <doppelganger> y
[08:25] <doppelganger> ;P
[08:25] <crimsun> unix_infidel: ok, and please pastebin the output from ``cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer''
[08:25] <doppelganger> (i didn't mean that!)
[08:25] <doppelganger> (sarcasm alert)
[08:26] <unix_infidel> http://rafb.net/paste/results/U0BOzG68.html
[08:26] <unix_infidel> crimsun: ^^^^ there ya go.
[08:26] <doppelganger> how long can a linux box be left on sans firewall before getting rooted, usually?
[08:27] <trappist> doppelganger: if your firewall is the only thing stopping you from getting rooted, you're doing something wrong.
[08:27] <BluesKaj> VMWare sucked on my pc ...sound card didn't work some progslike google earth would crash ...any heavy java stuf was unstable
[08:27] <unix_infidel> doppelganger: slashdot posted an arbitrary article saying something like 10 minutes.
[08:27] <doppelganger> 10 minutes? jeez
[08:27] <unix_infidel> doppelganger: that means nothing.
[08:27] <doppelganger> how do you tell if you are
[08:27] <crimsun> unix_infidel: amixer set 'Line Jack Sense' off
[08:27] <unix_infidel> if the person is good enough?
[08:27] <trappist> BluesKaj: yeah google earth wants hardware 3d acceleration, not available in vmware
[08:28] <doppelganger> mine at home as been on without a firewall all night  ;S
[08:28] <unix_infidel> crimsun: you are my savior
[08:29] <unix_infidel> doppelganger: like i said, if they're good enough, you wouldnt even no.
[08:29] <crimsun> unix_infidel: what's your 0401 from lspci -nv ?
[08:29] <unix_infidel> know*
[08:29] <unix_infidel> 0000:00:1f.5 0401: 8086:24c5 (rev 01)
[08:29] <unix_infidel> crimsun: ^^^
[08:29] <crimsun> need the subvendor and subdevice id, actually
[08:30] <crimsun> (the line right below that one)
[08:30] <doppelganger_> Does Kubuntu have any kind of firewall built in?
[08:30] <Ignite_> no
[08:30] <doppelganger_> i know i have guarddog downloaded at home, but i haven't configured it
[08:30] <obf213> y do some cds burn like rip %60 fastr than others
[08:31] <Ignite_> i've never used a firewall in (k)ubuntu, i've had the machine on for days at a time with no intrusions, but i don't run any kind of servers so..
[08:31] <BluesKaj> every pc should be equipped with a built in router/dsl/cable modem ...firewalls are a PITA
[08:31] <unix_infidel> crimsun: http://rafb.net/paste/results/Yk9Cfs98.html
[08:31] <BluesKaj> buy a router !
[08:31] <unix_infidel> Ignite_: just because you dont run servers.
[08:31] <Bazzi> the router will actually have linux and iptables lots of times :-)
[08:31] <unix_infidel> doesnt mean you dont have a reason to run a firewall.
[08:32] <trappist> if you have a router there's not much point putting a firewall behind it
[08:32] <obf213> do we need a firewall
[08:32] <crimsun> unix_infidel: yes, I blacklisted that one for Dapper.
[08:32] <BluesKaj> yup, exactly trappist
[08:32] <Ignite_> unix_infidel, never said there wasn't a reason
[08:32] <crimsun> static unsigned int ad1981_jacks_blacklist[]  = {
[08:32] <crimsun>         0x10140537, /* Thinkpad T41p */
[08:33] <unix_infidel> crimsun: ahhh.
[08:33] <BluesKaj> linux is pretty safe all by it's lonesome anyway
[08:33] <Ignite_> but i think we can safely say that as long as you keep your system upto date there isn't really an issue of being exploited
[08:33] <trappist> if you're doing what you're supposed to be doing, like keeping your software up to date and having services listen only on necessary interfaces, a firewall isn't going to make you any more secure.
[08:34] <Ignite_> :)
[08:34] <nik> pressing F9 a panel in konqueror is showed/hidden - how is this widget named?
[08:34] <BluesKaj> those ports below 1024 are the entranceways for the troublesome stuff
[08:35] <unix_infidel> crimsun: IBM did a really shotty job with this repair.  which is why was concerned.
[08:35] <doppelganger_> argh, gotta restart, one minute
[08:35] <trappist> doppelganger_: are you sure?
[08:36] <unix_infidel> crimsun: thanks a lot though, i never would've thought of it.
[08:36] <aliasfred> security is the easiest entrance to put out empty advice :)
[08:36] <unix_infidel> crimsun: these settings should continue to work after reboot?
[08:36] <BluesKaj> why run VMWare anyway?...dual boot is much better
[08:36] <crimsun> unix_infidel: if they're saved on boot (they are normally), yes
[08:37] <trappist> BluesKaj: that depends on what you're doing with it
[08:37] <trappist> BluesKaj: if you're a gamer, sure, dual boot.  if you're a developer and are using it to test code in a different environment, vmware is a lot better than rebooting all the time.
[08:38] <unix_infidel> *nod*
[08:38] <BluesKaj> ok, well I'm not speaking from a developer standpoint :) merely a user
[08:39] <unix_infidel> user of.....what?
[08:39] <charlie5> is kTorrent stable ? it crashes when i enter a search term and also if i de-select too many files in a selective d/l ... ?
[08:40] <trappist> it's best to be careful about using a word like 'better' without qualifiers - if one solution was just plain better than another, probably only one of them would even exist.
[08:41] <trappist> better for you, then
[08:42] <BluesKaj> uhmm yeah
[08:42] <BluesKaj> is doppleganger a developer ?
[08:42] <cotroler> !flash
[08:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:42] <cotroler> !flash player
[08:42] <ubotu> I know nothing about flash player - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:42] <unix_infidel> !flash
[08:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:43] <cotroler> how to install flash player for firefox pls??
[08:43] <trappist> BluesKaj: development was just an example of a situation where vmware might be more desirable than rebooting all the time
[08:43] <cotroler> unix_infidel: how to install flash player in firefox pls?
[08:44] <Gioacchino> I had found the problem
[08:44] <Gioacchino> if I copy the profile folder on my thunderbird
[08:44] <BluesKaj> trappist, I was  just trying to save the guy some anguish which he already seems to be going thru.
[08:44] <Gioacchino> and I delet the profile.desktop
[08:44] <Gioacchino> it work..
[08:44] <BluesKaj> good Gioacchino!
[08:45] <Gioacchino> but because yesterday work and now work only witih folder ??
[08:45] <obf213> why do soome cds rip so much slower than others
[08:45] <MukiEX> Is there a way to get all my apt packages and burn them to DVD?
[08:45] <Gioacchino> I share the configuration with portable thunderbird on my usb pen..
[08:45] <trappist> obf213: audio cds?
[08:45] <obf213> yeah
[08:45] <trappist> obf213: with the same app with the same configuration?
[08:45] <obf213> yep havent changed it
[08:46] <trappist> shouldn't be that way, unless some of em just have a lot more content than others
[08:46] <Gioacchino> but if i copy the folder I cant share the configuration because the configuratio share work only if the profile folder is in the usb pen..