[14:04] <Pici> philip: if that doesn't help, poke me again and I'll try explaining it further
[14:05] <philip> helo Pici love a clear understanding
[14:12] <hackal> Hello please could you help me change resolution of my external monitor(27" 2560x1440) attached to laptop? My laptop has nvidia card. I have installed all the drivers and I can see in system details that I use nvidia as graphics card. In display settings I am not able to set more than 1920x1080 on my external monitor.
[14:13] <southside> this may interest some folks
[14:13] <southside> ^^^ Job in Scotland - beautiful Clyde coast - remote working possible
[14:13] <southside> http://careers.stackoverflow.com/jobs/90236/rust-open-source-software-engineer-maidsafenet?searchTerm=Rust+developer
[14:15] <htdfjt> Hey everyone, what is this wonderful line I found in dmesg about?   systemd-hostnamed[5817]: Warning: nss-myhostname is not installed. Changing the local hostname might make it unresolveable. Please install nss-myhostname!
[14:23] <KetoImperator> Hello! There is a issue on both my laptops with Ubuntu 14.04 LTS hanging up randomly. Display is on, sometimes you can move the cursor someone you can't. Did you come accross it?
[14:28] <sudoritz> where can i disable TLS 1.0 but keep TLS1.1 and 1.2
[14:28] <sudoritz> i tried /etc/apache2/mods-available/ssl.conf but it didnt hel
[14:29] <ian_mac> is there a recommended way to install Java 8 on Precise?
[14:29]  * astroboy dinner
[14:31] <htdfjt> ian_mac: However Oracle says to
[14:31] <ian_mac> eh
[14:31] <ian_mac> so there's no OpenJDK 8 for Precise?
[14:31] <ian_mac> ok
[14:32] <Denlud> hey ma linuxniggas
[14:32] <Denlud> whats goin on?
[14:33] <htdfjt> ian_mac: Ah, I assumed you were looking for the Oracle one, since usually people asking need the SDK/JDK or whatever that thing is that the open source one doesn't have.  Though... I'm not sure about openjdk 8, I only have a 7
[14:34] <ian_mac> htdfjt: yeah.  I have OpenJDK 7 on our prod boxes now, and am trying to upgrade some software that requires OpenJDK 8 (or at least strongly recommends).  Would rather upgrade Java than upgrade the OS on all the boxes
[14:36] <htdfjt> ian_mac: You can check if someone maintains a ppa for that, or you can grab the deb package from a newer repo.
[14:36] <htdfjt> ian_mac: I'm not sure what the recommended way would be though.
[14:36] <kamil_> hi
[14:37] <Guest9568> anyone know of a good top-like terminal tool for monitoring network usage?
[14:37] <zerowaitstate> iftop
[14:37] <kamil_> i want to install mysql-workbench, but mysql workbench requires mysql-client, and mysql-client requires mysql-client-5.5, but i've installed mysql-client-5.6 from custom repository, because i need 5.6
[14:37] <kamil_> how can i resolve this problem?
[14:38] <Guest9568> nice thanks
[14:38] <zerowaitstate> kamil_: there is a version of mysql-workbench for 5.6 in the custom repo
[14:38] <htdfjt> kamil_: Also install 5.5.
[14:39] <zerowaitstate> kamil_: however, i think it has a spurious dependency on mysql-server
[14:39] <htdfjt> kamil_: Or yes, zerowaitstate's solution is better.
[14:39] <zerowaitstate> kamil_: but i like the workbench from 5.6 better than 5.5
[14:39] <htdfjt> If it's genuinely spurious then he can just force it
[14:39] <kamil_> ok, i'll find workbench for 5.6
[14:40] <kamil_> htdfjt: if i install 5.5, 5.6 will be removed
[14:40] <zerowaitstate> kamil_: the version i'm using from the custom repo is 6.2.5-1ubu1404
[14:41] <zerowaitstate> kamil_: package is mysql-workbench-community
[14:42] <htdfjt> kamil_: eh?  you should be able to install both with the right voodoo being passed as arguments to apt-get
[14:42] <htdfjt> kamil_: or is this something not in the repo?  I still liked zero's solution better though
[14:43] <mcphail> Forcing installs can break the system and shouldn't be supported in this channel, imho
[14:43] <kamil_> sec, i'm adding repo and we'll see
[14:43] <Pici> mcphail: agreed.
[14:47] <kamil_> actually... i've added this repo https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/ubuntu/mysql-5.6 and now mysql-workbench doesn't require mysql-client-5.5
[14:47] <kamil_> and it works ofc
[14:48] <kamil_> thank u :)
[14:50] <leafybasil> Hey all, running 15.05 on an retina MBP, after reading forums I thought hot-plugging for cinema display over thunderbolt was supported now, but it only seems to work if plugged in on bootup, anyone knwo why?
[14:58] <Daedalus-x> hi to all
[15:00] <htdfjt> mcphail: Ah, np, I did support the other solution ^_^
[15:06] <joe42> Does anyone know if Ubuntu will definately go to btrfs, or if they are considering openzfs?  Or something else I haven't mentioned?
[15:09] <lnb> alt+F# doesnt switch desktop anymore with 14.04 anyway to get this back?
[15:10] <umbra_purus> agent_white: are you there?
[15:11] <umbra_purus> agent_white: are you still there?
[15:13] <mcphail> htdfjt: :)
[15:14] <stacks88> when i do nano +136 file.txt to open at line 136 it doesnt seem to work, anyone know why?
[15:15] <mcphail> joe42: I doubt anyone knows for sure, but I'd be _very_ surprised if zfs became the default filesystem
[15:15] <stacks88> it instead opens at the beginning of the file
[15:16] <Sonick> hi all
[15:16] <IceBot3000> ReiserFS is the new default I think
[15:17] <vemacs> WifekillerFS?
[15:18] <umbra_purus_> please can someone please help me install wireless drivers? http://paste.ubuntu.com/11690225/
[15:18] <vbexpert> Have you got vBulletin? Want to get a Mod/Product/Style? No problem request one here https://www.criosphinx.net/boards/showthread.php?p=4#post4 and we'll get it from vbulletin.org and attach it!
[15:19] <vbexpert> Have you got vBulletin? Want to get a Mod/Product/Style? No problem request one here https://www.criosphinx.net/boards/showthread.php?p=4#post4 and we'll get it from vbulletin.org and attach it!
[15:19] <vbexpert> Have you got vBulletin? Want to get a Mod/Product/Style? No problem request one here https://www.criosphinx.net/boards/showthread.php?p=4#post4 and we'll get it from vbulletin.org and attach it!
[15:19] <umbra_purus_> please can someone please help me install wireless drivers? http://paste.ubuntu.com/11690225/
[15:20] <Guest27983> на русском тут вообще можно получить помощь?)
[15:20] <Pici> umbra_purus_: whats not working? it says there that it is already using a kernel driver
[15:20] <Pici> !ru | Guest27983
[15:21] <umbra_purus_> please can someone please help me install wireless drivers? http://paste.ubuntu.com/11690225/
[15:21] <umbra_purus_> please can someone please help me install wireless drivers? http://paste.ubuntu.com/11690225/
[15:21] <Pici> umbra_purus_: Please read responses sent to you before repeating.
[15:22] <DarkEra> umbra_purus_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines
[15:22] <umbra_purus_> Can't read because I'm on a webchat
[15:22] <umbra_purus_> There's no record
[15:22] <Pici> umbra_purus_: whats not working? it says there that it is already using a kernel driver
[15:22] <umbra_purus_> But really can't nobody help me?
[15:23] <umbra_purus_> But I can't enable wifi
[15:23] <Pici> umbra_purus_: how are you trying?
[15:23] <umbra_purus_> When I select enable wifi it won't start
[15:23] <stacks88> whats weird is if i compile nano from source , i can ./nano +136 file.txt and land at line number 136.. but the nano provided by ubuntu, if i do nano +136 file.txt it doesnt work, keeps me at line 1
[15:23] <Sonick> hi)
[15:23] <Pici> stacks88: works for me on 14.04. not that I'd use nano on purpose for anything.
[15:24] <stacks88> lol what is better to use?
[15:25] <umbra_purus_> Through the panel in top right-hand corner
[15:25] <Pici> stacks88: I've seen the light.  I'm now a vim user (although I agree that nano is great for people who don't want to remember shortcuts)
[15:26] <Pici> umbra_purus_: What do you get if you type   ifconfig   in a terminal?
[15:28] <TJ-> stacks "nano +3 /tmp/test.txt" works for 14.04 on amd64 for me
[15:28] <umbra_purus_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11690762/
[15:28] <umbra_purus_> Pici: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11690762/
[15:28] <umbra_purus_> this
[15:28] <TJ-> umbra_purus_: is the wireless power (RF kill) switch on
[15:29] <umbra_purus_> TJ: meaning?
[15:29] <TJ-> umbra_purus_: most wireless equipped PCs have a hard switch somewhere on the casing to enable and disable the Radio for the wireless devices
[15:29] <umbra_purus_> nop negative...
[15:29] <TJ-> umbra_purus_: Think of "airplane mode" on a smartphone
[15:30] <umbra_purus_> no switch
[15:30] <TJ-> umbra_purus_: check this command: "rfkill list"
[15:30] <umbra_purus_> I have two wireless lan installed??
[15:31] <umbra_purus_> TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11690769/
[15:31] <logan___> hi everyone. in the past i've had problems with HDMI with my ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650. Someone know if somethings is changed in Ubuntu 15.04? i need to migrate from windows8 to ubuntu but i cannot if my OS freeze every time i plug in a HDMI cable :) thanks
[15:31] <TJ-> umbra_purus_: "acer-wireless: Wireless LAN	Soft blocked: yes"
[15:32] <umbra_purus_> I notice that but why does it have acer?!
[15:32] <Pici> umbra_purus_: fyi: its uneeded to block out the ip address listed on lo, thats (normally) always <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:32] <umbra_purus_> When I installed the drivers the last time it didnt had acer-wireless
[15:32] <TJ-> umbra_purus_:  "sudo rfkill unblock 2"
[15:32] <tq7> hi
[15:33] <umbra_purus_> still blocked. i've runned sudo rfkill unblock 2 but afte r
[15:33] <umbra_purus_> that I've run rfkill list and it's still soft blocked
[15:33] <TJ-> umbra_purus_: OK, that suggests maybe the driver needs to also load some firmware blob into the device to have it work correctly.
[15:34] <umbra_purus_> TJ: so what firmware now?
[15:34] <tq7> which img file do i have to choose from my noobs.zip to kopie it on my sd card?
[15:34] <tq7> copie*
[15:34] <tq7> copy*
[15:36] <TJ-> umbra_purus_: Before we assume that, check the kernel log for clues: "pastebinit <(grep ath9k /var/log/kern.log)"
[15:38] <tq7> test
[15:39] <umbra_purus_> TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11690793/
[15:41] <umbra_purus_> TJ: you there?
[15:42] <magnnoo> Greetings
[15:42] <billharrison> After a crash, the locale command is giving odd output (and vim and other programs like Typescript compiler are behaving strangely)
[15:43] <billharrison> Why are LANG and LANGUAGE broken and how do I fix this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/11690810/
[15:43] <tq7> test
[15:44] <TJ-> umbra_purus_: Yes, running back and forth :)
[15:44] <gpfarina> Guys i have installed ubuntu 15.04 and I need to install all this software
[15:44] <gpfarina> http://pastebin.com/fRWaxzzu
[15:44] <umbra_purus_> TJ: oh :)
[15:44] <TJ-> umbra_purus_: unfortunately that ath9k driver isn't being very informative!
[15:44] <gpfarina> i tried but i had problems and i have to reinstall everything
[15:45] <gpfarina> is there a way to do that?
[15:45] <umbra_purus_> TJ-:  so what now?
[15:45] <delipero> How can i use c++ for sql injection attack?
[15:45] <tq7> hi
[15:46] <TJ-> umbra_purus_: search the web for how to "soft unblock" the atheros 9565
[15:47] <umbra_purus_> TJ-: no solution?
[15:47] <mcphail> delipero: why do you think that would be an Ubuntu support question? Please read the /topic
[15:48] <delipero> mcpail i have asked on other channels but no boddy will answer
[15:48] <mcphail> delipero: that does not make it on-topic here
[15:48] <TJ-> umbra_purus_: see http://askubuntu.com/questions/62730/cannot-change-soft-block-setting-to-no-for-ar9287-wireless-network
[15:50] <billharrison> Can someone paste me a copy of their /etc/default/locale file?
[15:51] <EriC^^> billharrison: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11690846/
[15:51] <billharrison> I need to get on with my job, this is ruining my schedule that is already behind.
[15:51] <mcphail> billharrison: I can paste a debian one, if it helps...
[15:52] <billharrison> EriC^^: Thanks so much. I'm hoping that will resolve my charset problem.
[15:52] <EriC^^> billharrison: no problem
[15:53] <billharrison> This is mine, which looks corrupt: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11690853/
[15:53] <TJ-> umbra_purus_: you can try it manually without needing to reboot using "sudo modprobe -r acer-wmi" then "echo 'blacklist acer-wmi' | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-acer-wmi.conf" then "sudo modprobe -r ath9k && sudo modprobe ath9k"
[15:53] <EriC^^> billharrison: yeah
[16:03] <Travis> Hello
[16:08] <dougquaid> I installed x2go server on my Ubuntu 14.04 desktop. In my x2go client I chose Gnome as the desktop environment, but the client just sits there with a black screen. Is there a way to fix that? Or should I choose another desktop environment in my client?
[16:11] <umbra_purus> Hey. I'm having troubles enabling wifi. when i rfkill list it shows the one acer is soft blocked but I have two wireless cards.. I should have only one and probably that's why I can't enable wifi. Can someone please help me with this?
[16:12] <umbra_purus> Hey. I'm having troubles enabling wifi. when i rfkill list it shows the one acer is soft blocked but I have two wireless cards.. I should have only one and probably that's why I can't enable wifi. Can someone please help me with this?
[16:12] <umbra_purus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11690964/
[16:13] <TJ-> umbra_purus: did you see the link I posted for you, and my suggested test to see if it solves it?
[16:13] <compdoc> umbra_purus, I dont use wifi, but do you see the adapter(s) in the file /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules   ?
[16:14] <umbra_purus> compdoc: yes what about it?
[16:14] <compdoc> are there more than one adapter?
[16:14] <compdoc> it should only list your actual nics
[16:15] <ioria> umbra_purus, how did you install the driver ? backports ?
[16:15] <Sholira> I ran into a problem with my dual boot ubuntu laptop, after a software update it's stuck in a login loop, I tried reinstalling ubuntu and many other options from the internet. When I check the .xsession-error it gives this message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11678071/
[16:15] <umbra_purus> yeah. probably the acer one is automatically installed in the installation of the os
[16:16] <umbra_purus> Nop. Not backports. I selected the option in download drivers
[16:17] <TJ-> umbra_purus_: see http://askubuntu.com/questions/62730/cannot-change-soft-block-setting-to-no-for-ar9287-wireless-network
[16:17] <TJ-> umbra_purus_: you can try it manually without needing to reboot using "sudo modprobe -r acer-wmi" then "echo 'blacklist acer-wmi' | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-acer-wmi.conf" then "sudo modprobe -r ath9k && sudo modprobe ath9k"
[16:17] <clayendisk1> Hey all.
[16:17] <clayendisk1> Need some help.
[16:19] <Rene_x> welcome to ubuntu free customer service, just pose your question, and when anybody knows the awnser they will trow something out :)
[16:19] <clayendisk1> Does anybody know about icons for launchers? I've tried deleting them in [/usr/share/icons/.../emotes] and they still show up!
[16:19] <clayendisk1> Thank you.
[16:19] <clayendisk1> emoticons*
[16:19] <Rene_x> how you mean they show up ?
[16:20] <Rene_x> as files after deleting ?
[16:20] <clayendisk1> Ok. When I edit a launcher, I click on the icon button and it pulls up all the different categories... file-types/emotes/etc
[16:20] <Rene_x> if so you have the correct rights to del them ?
[16:20] <clayendisk1> Yeah, the files are all deleted, Rene_x
[16:21] <Rene_x> maybe they are pulled from else where ?
[16:21] <clayendisk1> But they show up still when I choose "emoticons" under the icon-selector gui of the launcher editor
[16:21] <clayendisk1> Any idea where they'd be?
[16:21] <conyoo> hi guys, i got error ;(
[16:21] <Rene_x> maybe a disk wide search for the file name ?
[16:22] <conyoo> sudo snappy rollback webdm
[16:22] <conyoo> panic: runtime error: invalid memory address or nil pointer dereference
[16:22] <conyoo> [signal 0xb code=0x1 addr=0x20 pc=0x5ca3b1]
[16:22] <conyoo> can help?
[16:22] <clayendisk1> Thanks, I tried that!
[16:23] <Rene_x> clayendisk1> i mean it's strange that icons would still show if you deleted them, i would then asume there are other (copies?) icons used/pulled from some where else then
[16:23] <clayendisk1> Yeah, I agree!
[16:23] <clayendisk1> hmm.
[16:23] <umbra_purus> TJ-: it worked TJ :D what is modprobe? can you explain really quickly what all this commands do?
[16:23] <Rene_x> not sure, sorry i have to go again , im just another ubuntu noob :) wot is waiting maybe others have a better awnser then me :)
[16:24] <clayendisk1> They've got to be in some kind of tarball or something, since the search wouldn't find extras either.
[16:24] <clayendisk1> Hey thanks for giving it a shot!
[16:26] <TJ-> umbra_purus: basically, an incompatible driver (acer-wmi) got in the way and stopped proper control of the device. By unloading the acer-wmi driver from the kernel and then blacklisting it so it can't be loaded automatically, it put the system in a proper state
[16:26] <ming> hello world
[16:26] <ankay> hi
[16:27] <Guest68028> hi
[16:27] <TJ-> umbra_purus: to be sure, please do a complete reboot and ensure the wifi works. If not we may need to alter the blacklist setting
[16:27] <ankay> how are you?
[16:27] <Guest68028> I'm good
[16:28] <Guest68028> I'm Chinese
[16:28] <ankay> any spanish room?
[16:28] <ankay> im spanish
[16:28] <ankay> And now im using ubuntu 12.04
[16:29] <Guest68028> ubuntu 14.04
[16:29] <Guest68028> 14.04
[16:29] <ankay> i prefeer 12.04
[16:30] <ankay> but last year i used 14.04
[16:30] <ankay> any spanish room?
[16:31]  * ankay need help
[16:31] <TJ-> !es | ankay
[16:31] <ankay> thanks
[16:31] <umbra_purus> TJ-: thanks TJ-  sorry for you troubles
[16:32] <TJ-> umbra_purus: Good luck with it, its nice to know you've got it working :)
[16:32] <ankay> im new
[16:37] <orion> Hi. How come Ubuntu's NTP package uses version 4.2.6?
[16:37] <orion> https://web.nvd.nist.gov/view/vuln/detail?vulnId=CVE-2014-9295
[16:39] <mohammed> hi
[16:40] <TJ-> orion: The package is patched
[16:40] <Guest57513> hi
[16:40] <orion> TJ-: Why don't they bump the version?
[16:40] <TJ-> It is
[16:40] <TJ-> orion: see the package's changelog
[16:41] <orion> TJ-: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/ntp 1:4.2.6.p5+dfsg-3ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[16:41] <ballardboy> I have install grunt-cli on 14.04 and the install worked but when I type in grunt I get the following message /usr/bin/env: node: No such file or directory. Has anybody else had this problem and how do I fix it?
[16:41] <TJ-> orion: and?
[16:42] <orion> TJ-: I'm expecting it to say 1:4.2.8... not 1:4.2.6...
[16:42] <TJ-> orion: why? we don't update wholesale we just patch specific known bugs
[16:42] <TJ-> orion: see the changelog: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/n/ntp/ntp_4.2.6.p5+dfsg-3ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>/changelog
[16:42] <orion> TJ-: Alright.
[16:42] <TJ-> orion: "debian/patches/CVE-2014-9295.patch: check lengths in ..."
[16:43] <orion> TJ-: Ok, thank you.
[16:44] <swy> 12.04 LTS question: Server in a VM, static IP configuration. /etc/network/interfaces has proper dns-nameservers configured. can dig @DNS_Server $host and it works.  But dig $host fails. I'm out of ideas why that might be and seeking new ones.
[16:44] <Guest57513> hii
[16:46] <TJ-> orion: the general policy of security patches is explained here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdatePreparation#Preparing_a_patch
[16:48] <orion> TJ-: Ok, thank you.
[16:49] <bugsonubuntu> Hey, I have a issue on ubuntu, when I boot half of the time it loads a purple screen then freezes I then have to turn it off and on go to recovery and get an error then restart again then I have to boot normally get a error about a driver or something I also have a  hard time shutting tdown it stays on the screen does go black though half the time i shut my screen down it stays on
[16:52] <bugsonubuntu> can anyone help?
[16:52] <Sholira> I ran into a problem with my dual boot ubuntu laptop, after a software update it's stuck in a login loop, I tried reinstalling ubuntu and many other options from the internet. When I check the .xsession-error it gives this message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11678071/
[16:53] <bugsonubuntu> does your screen go purple?
[16:53] <Sholira> only black and then back to the login screen
[16:54] <bugsonubuntu> Hey, I have a issue on ubuntu, when I boot half of the time it loads a purple screen then freezes I then have to turn it off and on go to recovery and get an error then restart again then I have to boot normally get a error about a driver or something I also have a  hard time shutting tdown it stays on the screen does go black though half the time i shut my screen down it stays on
[16:54] <bugsonubuntu> Can you help me?
[16:54] <Sholira> I'm quite new to ubuntu myself tbh
[16:55] <Sholira> So I haven't ran into a lot of stuff yet, so sorry :(
[16:55] <TJ-> Sholira: Have you tried deleting the "/home/$USER/.Xauthority" file?
[16:55] <Sholira> TJ- , yes
[16:56] <ioria> TJ- you know what   ~/.config/dconf/user    file is ?
[16:56] <TJ-> Sholira: You were able to delete it, and the loop continued? sometimes that file gets owned by root and the $USER cannot delete that file without using "sudo"
[16:57] <Sholira> TJ- , I deleted it without using sudo and the loop continues
[16:57] <TJ-> Sholira: OK, that's always the obvious cause so worth checking :)
[16:58] <TJ-> Sholira: I looked at your .xsession-errors but it didn't suggest anything to me other than that.
[16:58] <TJ-> ioria: I think it's dconf's settings file isn't it?
[16:59] <Sholira> TJ-, I tried a lot of the stuff already from other people with the same symptoms, but nothing has helped so far =/
[16:59] <Sholira> I can also check other stuff if that might help
[16:59] <Sholira> for you to help
[17:01] <yeiner> hola
[17:01] <TJ-> Sholira: I'm wondering if it could be a lightdm session issue. There's usually log files created in "/var/log/lightdm/" that I investigate for these type of issues
[17:04] <Sholira> TJ-, what should I look for in those files?
[17:05] <TJ-> Sholira: any indication of an error :D I have no idea specifically, but usually you can separate regular informational messages  from the warnings/errors
[17:13] <Sholira> TJ- I'm now looking at a log file that seems to have quite some errors, some involve something for my wallpaper, the other: Error getting properties on a new menuitem: Error getting properties for ID
[17:14] <TJ-> Sholira: can you pastebin the file "pastebinit /var/log/lightdm/<filename>" ?
[17:16] <Sholira> TJ- : http://paste.ubuntu.com/11691287/
[17:19] <TJ-> Sholira: unfortunately, those don't help... pretty normal output
[17:19] <MrDoctor> Does anyone know a fix for this http://askubuntu.com/questions/498153/accented-characters-not-rendering-correctly-on-title-bar-in-ubuntu-14-04?
[17:19] <Sholira> TJ- okay, anything else I can check that might help? ^^"
[17:19] <MrDoctor> Which is also same as this http://askubuntu.com/questions/533059/weird-box-like-characters-showing-up-in-title-bar-of-windows.
[17:21] <Zack263> does ubuntu have a utorrent
[17:22] <Zack263> i'm gonna check ubuntu store
[17:22] <schnitz> need help with graphics problem
[17:22] <schnitz> running ubuntustudio 15.04
[17:23] <schnitz> rate is 60 Hz only, tried lots of things
[17:23] <schnitz> not a Linux pro, just a user
[17:23] <TJ-> Sholira: long shot but I vaguely recall having an issue with the lightdm .Xauthority file. Can't remember if it allowed the system to get as far as beginning a user-login though. There's a "/var/lib/lightdm/.Xauthority" file I had to delete. Requires switching to a VT using Ctrl+Alt+F1, log-in, then "sudo service lightdm stop" then "sudo rm /var/lib/lightdm/.Xauthority" then "sudo service lightdm restart" ... I think there's only a 2% chance that'll affect it thou
[17:23] <TJ-> gh
[17:24] <schnitz> updated to 15.04 and am not so deeply involved with Linux, but everything worked well for many months. Now suddenly, I have only 60Hz whatever I do
 (yes I'm running an old school monitor)
 Problem is, I have a onboard APU with an additional graphics card. Both AMD / ATI ... under Windows, with ATI drivers, they work together well, do multi-GPU load balancing
 under Ubuntu, they seem to collide now
 Since I'm not doing anything graphics intense, I was wondering whether I could *disable* and additional grafics cards hardware-wise under Linux
 aticonfig is not working properly under Linux, tried lots of configs, it mostly crashes and doesn't help at alll
[17:27] <schnitz> How can I completely deactivate an additional graphics card so ubuntu is forced to only use the onboard GPU on the APU / Mainboard?
[17:27] <schnitz> (w/o physically pulling it out of the PC ;-)
[17:28] <Zack263> do you guys have a recommend torrent client for ubuntu?
[17:28] <TJ-> schnitz: if the GPUs don't share the same driver, blacklist the driver
[17:28] <schnitz> TJ- perfect, how do I that?
[17:28] <schnitz> how do I do that...
[17:29] <TJ-> schnitz: identify which driver(s) the GPUs use first: "lspci -nnvvv" look at the "driver in use" line
[17:29] <schnitz> ok will do thx
[17:29] <Zack263> omg i just read this online... "Be Safe. Use Linux.
[17:30] <Zack263> Double your drive space. Delete Windows. "
[17:30] <slayer> anyone ever faced a not working usb 3.0 port in Ubuntu 12.04?
[17:30] <histo> slayer: what's not working it's not showing any devices or the speed?
[17:30] <slayer> no devices
[17:31] <histo> slayer: new mobo?
[17:31] <histo> slayer: mother board
[17:31] <slayer> nope, its a laptop
[17:31] <slayer> preinstalled Ubuntu
[17:31] <histo> slayer: preinstalled by whom?
[17:31] <slayer> Dell
[17:32] <histo> slayer: That's odd. Maybe try a live cd and see if they borked something up with their configuration
[17:32] <schnitz> TJ- thanks, I found both GPUs in that list, unfortunately they both use the same kernel driver 'fglrx_pci'
[17:32] <histo> slayer: if not perhaps the hardware itself is bad.
[17:34] <dionysus69> hey guys, I have this thing to do, right now my ubuntu partition is at the end of the hard drive, is it possible to move it in front??
[17:34] <TJ-> schnitz: OK, so you'd have to use the ATI specific config tool ... which from what you said earlier, doesn't work!?
[17:35] <Sholira> TJ- I tried your option but it didn't work...
[17:35] <slayer> histo: the hardware is okay
[17:36] <slayer> it worked fine few few days earlier but today it completely stopped
[17:36] <TJ-> Sholira: it was a very long shot
[17:36] <khaldrogox> is there an official channel for cannonical openstack + maas?
[17:37] <slayer> histo: it was dropping usb mouse connection but pen drives were working fine
[17:37] <Sholira> TJ- any shot is a shot for me, do you have another suggestion?
[17:38] <slayer> histo: though i managed to fix it by blacklisting module "uas"
[17:38] <schnitz> TJ- it mostly crashes, I can do changes, but then after reboot ubuntu tells me it crashed during startup
[17:38] <slayer> But I wonder what could have done this behavior... I didnt even did any changes to system recently
[17:39] <zero-1> hi everyone, quick question, I'm on a fresh install and my keyboard is going crazy repeating keystrokes randomly, I thought i could be my mechanical keyboard, I connected a different keyboard and the problem persist
[17:39] <TJ-> schnitz: does the crash report give you an option to examine the details of the crash? that might help fix the crash entirely
[17:40] <schnitz> yes it does I just chose to ignore it :-)
[17:40] <zero-1> I checked accesibility settings everything is off, what can I do to fix this, trying to code like this is super annoying and time consuming
[17:40] <schnitz> no I did read it, it was just beyond my knowledge
[17:41] <schnitz> from what I could tell it seemed to have memory allocation issues
[17:41] <TJ-> schnitz: usually best to fix or workaround the root issue
[17:41] <poacheR> Hello. I have a question that's been bugging me for years, but I never set out to answer it properly. What do people generally do if they need to install a package but it relies on newer libraries than those installed on your system?
[17:41] <vooze> I'm trying to change the lightdm unity-greeter GTK-theme. I have found the options in dconf under unity-greeter, but it does not seem to have any affect at login. What could I be doing wrong?
[17:41] <proderlinor> How do i remove xfce4 without removing any installed software
[17:42] <poacheR> Ideally I would love to find a way to create a 'static' deb ... but the only instance of a static .deb I've ever come across was from skype. People do not tend to package their .deb files as static or offer that choice in general.
[17:42] <TJ-> proderlinor: that doesn't make sense. how can you remove it without removing the software?
[17:43] <poacheR> I know there's a way, *if* you have those other libraries installed somewhere else, to point  LD_LIBRARY_PATH to them and run your file
[17:43] <poacheR> and presumably to install it in the first place you might have to do something like dpkg -i --force-all
[17:43] <poacheR> but then there's the question where do you get all the library files in general
[17:43] <MonkeyDust> proderlinor  xfce *is* software
[17:43] <poacheR> do you hunt them down one by one?
[17:43] <TJ-> poacheR: build the software inside it using static linkage rather than dynamic shared objects
[17:44] <poacheR> do you add a newer repository? doesn't that break the old one?
[17:44] <zero-1> could erst_disabled and acpi=off in grub be the cause of my keyboard issues?
[17:44] <lufei> hello
[17:44] <backbox> hello
[17:44] <poacheR> TJ-: can you elaborate a bit more? Is this standard practice, or your suggestion?
[17:44] <TJ-> zero-1: Yes
[17:44] <lufei>  大家好
[17:44] <schnitz> TJ- total agreement, its just that understanding the error report upon start-up/crash needs to happen first
[17:44] <lufei> 大家 好，有没有人在用VNC?
[17:45] <genewitch> I'm getting a certificate error from a baltimorecity.gov website in curl and wget (http://projectftm.com/index.php?1849f6 errors); is this a possible ubuntu CA issue or is this the website/godaddy issue? who should i call?
[17:45] <zero-1> TJ - which one would be? both? I added those options to  get rid of some of the errors at boot
[17:45] <genewitch> because that cert doesn't look self signed, it looks signed by godaddy
[17:45] <TJ-> poacheR: When building binary executables there's 2 options for accessing code from other libraries: 1) dynamic linking to shared objects and 2) static linking to the libXXX.a files which are included inside the binary executable so it does not need to load any external code
[17:46] <abel> hola
[17:46] <lufei> bye
[17:46] <zero-1> brb rebooting with those options removed from grub
[17:47] <TJ-> zero-1: erst_disabled only affects MCE log access via ACPI I believe, so acpi=off is going to affect a LOT of things
[17:47] <poacheR> TJ-: oh, I see, sorry, no I don't mean anything to do with building. If I'm building something myself in the first place, I can get it to run anyway. I'm talking about getting a deb file from the internet, which on installation complains that I don't satisfy the dependencies because my ubuntu is old.
[17:47] <TJ-> poacheR: Ahhh, in that case you're stuck, unless you create a container using LXC (think Docker) and install just what's needed in that
[17:48] <poacheR> LXC?
[17:48] <TJ-> poacheR: LinuX Containers
[17:48] <poacheR> I'll look that up, thanks. So, there isn't a "standard" way of dealing with this problem?
[17:48] <TJ-> poacheR: Yes... only use the distro's archives :)
[17:48] <poacheR> lol
[17:49] <TJ-> poacheR: Or else, use a bleeding edge distro that tracks upstreams or builds everything for your system
[17:49] <poacheR> TJ-: on my home computer, this is what I'd do. The problem comes more when I need to use a package at work, but our IT department doesn't allow us to upgrade the distro in general (because they don't "offer support" for it).
[17:50] <poacheR> So I'm stuck with a version of ubuntu which is 6-versions behind, but need to install, say, the latest octave
[17:50] <TJ-> poacheR: which is a very sensible rule to have
[17:50] <poacheR> (ok, octave is a bad example, because that's better built from source anyway)
[17:50] <TJ-> poacheR: Are you able to run virtual machines?
[17:50] <poacheR> (but you know what I mean)
[17:51] <poacheR> yes, but I was wondering if there's a standardized solution to fetching newer libraries and running a .deb that requires them, that I wasn't aware of
[17:51] <TJ-> poacheR: or create a chroot (change root) and install the distro release required in that
[17:51] <poacheR> seems to be a very frequent problem, and one that would scare newbies away ... I'm fairly confident in linux and I still just say "eh, fukit, I don't really need this then" when that happens
[17:51] <TJ-> poacheR: No... the LXC/Docker approach has in a general way come out of what you're describing.
[17:52] <TJ-> poacheR: allowing single apps to be isolated from the rest of the OS with their own dependencies
[17:52] <poacheR> I remember this "linux static installation process" project a long time ago ... can't remember the name now, but it was going to be packaging things statically into 'keys' or sth. or 'bottles'. or something like that
[17:52] <poacheR> (no, not wine)
[17:53] <poacheR> yeah. thanks, I'll have a look at that
[17:53] <poacheR> That still means tracking down the libraries by myself on the interwebz though, presumably, right?
[17:53] <poacheR> like, packages.debian.com or sth
[17:54] <poacheR> solving this problem would be a nice little 'app' actually ...
[17:54] <Gh0st-> can anyone here Help me with IRCANYWHERE?
[17:54] <poacheR> if only I had the time for play :p
[17:55] <Gh0st-> on Ubuntu
[17:55] <zero-1> back from reboot, so far the keyboard has been behaving properly, let's see if it lasts
[17:55] <histo> pa: what do you want to do?
[17:55] <dionysus69> ram indicator is showing "cache" and it sometimes overloads and computer lags why?
[17:55] <histo> poacheR: what do you want to do?
[17:55] <histo> dionysus69: linuxatemyram.com
[17:55] <poacheR> histo: tl;dr general approach to installing a .deb with newer dependencies on an older ubuntu
[17:55] <zero-1> can anyone enlighten me as to why those options could make my keyboard go crazy? (erst_disabled acpi=off  on grub)
[17:56] <histo> poacheR: lxc or docker.  or the new snappy packages that are proposed
[17:56] <poacheR> (or, a newer package on an older linux distro in general)
[17:56] <dionysus69> histo: haha thats funny ;P but I am sure its not supposed to get laggy at points ?? :S
[17:56] <genewitch> I'm getting a certificate error from a baltimorecity.gov website in curl and wget (http://projectftm.com/index.php?1849f6 errors); is this a possible ubuntu CA issue or is this the website/godaddy issue? I called the OIT of that government, but i want to be sure i'm not an idiot, too.
[17:56] <poacheR> histo: yeah, thanks, I'll have a look at that. It's weird that you'd need containers in the first place though ...
[17:57] <poacheR> histo: essentially bringing the newer libraries in the same folder and linking to them is the windows approach, right?
[17:57] <poacheR> histo: I don't see why you'd need such a specialised structure just to put things in one place and ask the executable to use those instead of the system ones.
[17:57] <poacheR> histo: anyway, I'll have a look. thanks!
[17:58] <histo> poacheR: check out snappy sounds exactly liek what you are talking about
[17:58] <genewitch> poacheR: if you want something like that you either need containers /etc/alternatives maybe
[17:58] <histo> poacheR: http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/tools/snappy
[17:58] <poacheR> histo: cool thanks!
[17:59] <poacheR> genewitch: I'm not looking for something specific per se. It's just a general problem I come across very often, and I'd not bothered to ask how people go about it in general in years.
[17:59] <genewitch> poacheR: you could compile all the libraries you need and then force the source of whatever you're trying to port to use those libraries, but then we're back at 1995. look for a backport?
[17:59] <TJ-> zero-1: Turning ACPI off is pretty extreme on any modern PC (after 2004)
[17:59] <poacheR> genewitch: yes, exactly xD
[18:00] <Guest91992> hey guys, I'm having a little issue here, when I'm trying to connect to some wifi network with ubuntu it keeps trying and can't connect to the network. so I just can access the internet through cable... any idea?
[18:00] <poacheR> genewitch: I was just wondering if there was something out there that had addressed this issue and that people were actively using for this reason
[18:01] <genewitch> poacheR: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man8/update-alternatives.8.html maybe
[18:01] <zero-1> TJ- I did it because I had an error saying that acpi probe failed so it made me think that maybe I had it installed but my motherboard didn't support it
[18:01] <genewitch> Guest91992: has it ever connected to a wifi network?
[18:01] <conyoo> help :( how do you install this ubuntu? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-desktop-next/daily-preinstalled/current/
[18:02] <zero-1> TJ - the error went away and I ended up with a clean boot with no errors, but a crazy keyboard
[18:02] <conyoo> i can't find the .iso there
[18:02] <poacheR> genewitch: this assumes I already have the newer libraries installed somewhere, right?
[18:02] <Guest91992> genewitch, yes, but he(my friend) told me it stopped suddenly
[18:02] <conyoo> and i have no idea how to install  wily-preinstalled-desktop-next-i386.device.tar.gz
[18:02] <genewitch> Guest91992: maybe your friend's wifi password changed
[18:03] <Guest91992> genewitch, I can see the wifi networks avaliable, then when I try to put the password it just try to connect, but doens't work
[18:05] <genewitch> Guest91992: grep /var/log/syslog for "wpa_supplicant"
[18:05] <genewitch> Guest91992: that'll tell you the errors since it's not showing up and dyying silently?
[18:06] <Guest91992> genewitch, I don't have installed ubuntu yet, there is no syslog file... I'm running ubuntu from a usb stick
[18:07] <hr49_pi> exit
[18:07] <hr49_pi> sorry, confused irc for terminal :P
[18:08] <genewitch> hr49_pi: ctrl-D
[18:11] <luvenfu> hello, i tried to use cron, but don't know why the script is not executing, i did a script to write and then open gedit, there's something i forgot to did: 20 * * * * * ~/script?
[18:12] <TJ-> luvenfu: use the absolute path to the script, not relative or using shell aliases like "~"
[18:13] <luvenfu> TJ: i think the alias is HOME, i forgot that, thanks
[18:15] <luvenfu> TJ-: there's no error log of cron?
[18:18] <TJ-> luvenfu: syslog I think
[18:23] <tonyyarusso> luvenfu: cron sends errors to the user's system mail account.  But two things: 1) Yeah, user absolute paths, and 2) Good luck launching a graphical application from cron.
[18:24] <luvenfu> can't i use $HOME then?
[18:25] <EriC^^> luvenfu: you need to run DISPLAY=:0 gedit
[18:25] <EriC^^> in the script
[18:26] <luvenfu> EriC^^: ok, but even the command echo "TEST" > output isn't working.
[18:26] <EriC^^> you need to type ~/output
[18:26] <luvenfu> EriC^^: my crontab -e is opening a tmp file
[18:26] <EriC^^> luvenfu: that's normal
[18:26] <francooblo> ciao
[18:27] <luvenfu> EriC^^: ok, but what about /etc/crontab? the contents are different
[18:27] <EriC^^> luvenfu: those are system-wide, nevermind them
[18:27] <luvenfu> EriC^^: should i use crontab -e or /etc/crontab?
[18:27] <EriC^^> luvenfu: your cron is in /var/spool/cron/...
[18:27] <EriC^^> luvenfu: use crontab -e
[18:28] <TunaFish> anyone using fish as their shell? is ok to change bash to fish using chsh -s /usr/bin/fish?
[18:29] <poacheR> TunaFish: I've used it in the past. Very nice little shell.
[18:29] <rxr_> Hi, this is the first time that I've install ubuntu. Thanks to all
[18:30] <TunaFish> poacheR, Thx for the comment, I like its auto complete, that's why I am thinking about the change
[18:30] <michelubuntu> TJ-: knock knock
[18:30] <clayendisk1> I have a question I don't know how to find answers to: I tried deleting certain "emoticons" from [/usr/share/icons/*/emotes] and they still show up in the launcher editor.
[18:31] <luvenfu> EriC^^: thanks
[18:31] <Samul`> okay, I've just installed livemix – live mixer from the ubuntu software center
[18:31] <Samul`> and it just does not work
[18:31] <Samul`> as soon as I open it, it closes
[18:31] <Samul`> ubuntu says something crashed. I send the report
[18:31] <Samul`> and I try to open it again
[18:31] <Samul`> this, forever
[18:32] <TJ-> Samul`: try starting it from a terminal command-line it may report something useful
[18:33] <Samul`> the original output is: Errore di segmentazione (core dump creato), which means segmentation error (dump core created)
[18:33] <EriC^^> luvenfu: no problem
[18:33] <Samul`> also, jack_client_new: deprecated {new line} Connected to session bus, unique name is ":1.198"
[18:33] <Samul`> (didn't want to use pastebin for 3 lines worth of text)
[18:33] <Samul`> TJ-: what should I do?
[18:34] <TJ-> Samul`: nothing much of use there, unfortunately
[18:35] <MonkeyDust> Samul`  try mixxx (tripple x)
[18:36] <TJ-> Samul`: A known bug, apparently: bug #951321
[18:36] <TJ-> Samul`: unfortunately, the bug report is currently marked Private so you won't be able to view it
[18:37] <TJ-> Samul`: did you let the system post a bug report when it crashed?
[18:38] <Samul`> I did, TJ-
[18:38] <Samul`> so that piece of software is still under development?
[18:38] <Sebaaas> Hi
[18:38] <Sebaaas> Can you help me?
[18:38] <Samul`> MonkeyDust: does it support plugins like normal DAWs?
[18:38] <Pici> Sebaaas: You'll need to ask a question first. ;)
[18:38] <Samul`> I need to be able to play a mic input live and add some effects as well
[18:39] <TJ-> Samul`: I think it is more likely it is bit-rotting... not been kept up to date with system libraries
[18:39] <Samul`> so this problem is not up to my system right?
[18:40] <Samul`> because I've had some problems with software crashes recently
[18:40] <Sebaaas> What this lines DOES?  sudo iptables -A INPUT -i eth0:1 -s 0/0 -d 0/0 -j ACCEPT
[18:40] <Sebaaas>  sudo iptables -A INPUT -i lo -s 0/0 -d 0/0 -j ACCEPT
[18:40] <Samul`> I think it tells iptables not to deny something from someone
[18:41] <Samul`> but I'm not sure, wait for the reply from a more experienced one XD
[18:41] <Sebaaas> what means -s 0/0 exactly?
[18:41] <Samul`> I don't know, I'm afraid
[18:41] <Sebaaas> and -d 0/0
[18:41] <Sebaaas> Its hard to understand
[18:41] <MonkeyDust> Samul`  i guess the people in #ubuntustudio know such details
[18:41] <Samul`> let someone else tell you, since I'm not familiar with iptables
[18:41] <Samul`> thank you MonkeyDust
[18:42] <Sebaaas> Someone expert?¿
[18:42] <pavlos> Sebaaas, -s is source, -d is destination ... man iptables
[18:43] <Sebaaas> yes i know, but if i put 1/1
[18:43] <Sebaaas> or 1/0 ?
[18:43] <poacheR> TunaFish: you know bash has autocomplete too though, right?
[18:43] <lotuspsychje> !iptables | Sebaaas
[18:43] <poacheR> TunaFish: not as "matlabish" as fish, but still good. I admit I didn't know about it until after I tried fish and checked if bash had the same too
[18:43] <pavlos> Sebaaas, it expects address/mask
[18:44] <TJ-> Samul`: From what I can see, the cause is a problem with one or more of the plugins
[18:44] <Sebaaas> then if i put 1/0 , i expect only the address?
[18:45] <TunaFish> poacheR, I think I know, with tab right? I'll check it out to confirm if it is good or not for me.
[18:45] <poacheR> TunaFish: no, with Ctrl+R
[18:46] <poacheR> TunaFish: and there's reverse search too, but a feature of modern linuxes fucks that up, and you'll have to edit your bash.rc first if you really want it
[18:47] <poacheR> TunaFish: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/73498/how-to-cycle-through-reverse-i-search-in-bash
[18:47] <TunaFish> poacheR, Ctrl R opens up reverse search, not auto complete? but I didn't know about reverse search, it look good.
[18:48] <TunaFish> poacheR, Nice, thanks, look quite useful. I need to read the fucking manual.
[18:49] <Sebaaas> Its okay now i understand
[18:49] <poacheR> TunaFish: well, if you press ctrl+R after you've already typed something, it's like an autocomplete from history
[18:49] <Sebaaas> Thanks you guys, especially pavlos
[18:49] <poacheR> and obviously, normal autocomplete exists with tab
[18:50] <TunaFish> I think I've fallen in love with fish's webconfig, and colorful default config. though I already colored my bash, it looked cute :3
[18:50] <SCHAAP137> Sebaaas, 0/0 stands for <IP_ADDRESS>/0 i think
[18:50] <HelpeRX> im currently using webchat.freenod.net and the text box to type is so small how do i increase the size im on the latest ubuntu
[18:51] <Sebaaas> THe first 0 for the IP
[18:51] <Sebaaas> and the t
[18:51] <Sebaaas> and the right 0 for the mask
[18:51] <SCHAAP137> most probably, yes
[18:51] <Sebaaas> then i can put <IP_ADDRESS>/0
[18:51] <SCHAAP137> 1/0 or 0/1 makes no sense
[18:51] <SCHAAP137> no, a specific IP is always a /32
[18:51] <Sebaaas> or <IP_ADDRESS>/1
[18:52] <SCHAAP137> learn about subnets
[18:52] <bekks>  /0 doesnt make sense.
[18:52] <SCHAAP137> i've seen it before in firewalls
[18:52] <Sebaaas> i see in the manual the 1 means a 24 mask adress
[18:52] <SCHAAP137> ah rly?
[18:52] <Sebaaas> see man iptables
[18:52] <Sebaaas> my english is not so good so if you can explain me more
[18:53] <SCHAAP137> i don't know iptables that well
[18:53] <HelpeRX>  my english is not so good so if you can explain it to me more
[18:53] <HelpeRX> would be the correct way to say that
[18:53] <bekks> Sebaaas: Where does it say that in "man iptables"?
[18:53] <SCHAAP137> <IP_ADDRESS>/0 = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Default_route
[18:53] <Sebaaas> ok ty helper xD
[18:54] <Sebaaas> bekks
[18:54] <Sebaaas> go man iptables
[18:54] <Sebaaas> it is shows that
[18:54] <bekks> Sebaaas: I did. And I found only ONE reference of "24".
[18:55] <bekks> So where does it say that /1 means <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[18:55] <Sebaaas> i think so
[18:55] <SCHAAP137> makes no sense
[18:55] <bekks> Sebaaas: It doesnt say that at all.
[18:55] <SCHAAP137> <IP_ADDRESS>/0 is more likely, meaning default route
[18:56] <SCHAAP137> all my iptables entries are in CIDR notation, it can reasonably be assumed that 0/0 is short for <IP_ADDRESS>/0
[18:56] <Sebaaas> ah
[18:56] <Sebaaas> and what i need to put in the right side
[18:56] <Sebaaas> the 0 means?
[18:56] <SCHAAP137> read
[18:56] <SCHAAP137> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Default_route
[18:57] <poacheR> TunaFish: I liked fish very much, but in the end, the non-standard way of doing scripts was a no-no for me
[18:57] <poacheR> TunaFish: if I remember correctly, anyway.
[18:57] <zero-1> TJ - What about erst is that safe to disable?
[18:57] <Sebaaas> im not so good in english
[18:57] <Sebaaas> so what it tells
[18:57] <Sebaaas> ?
[18:57] <SCHAAP137> i'm tired of repeating myself; use Google
[18:57] <poacheR> TunaFish: because it meant that I can't just run a bash script straight in the terminal
[18:58] <TunaFish> poacheR, yeah that's why I think I'll stay with bash for now
[18:58] <Sebaaas> The subnet mask is given as /0, which effectively specifies all networks
[18:59] <poacheR> TunaFish: But yeah, I remember fish just like that: Lots of good ideas that I wished bash would adopt, but in the end, not 100% compatible with bash stuff, so you can't really 'just switch'.
[18:59] <jouk> I've edited an /etc/init/blah.conf file. Do I need to do anything to upstart before those changes can take affect?
[19:00] <jouk> (because right now, the changes aren't taking effect)
[19:00] <Sebaaas> <IP_ADDRESS>/24 for IPv4, and 2001:db8::/32 for IPv6.
[19:00] <TJ-> zero-1: Yes, some systems require that to boot successfully, if their ACPI MCE ERST logic is broken
[19:01] <jouk> to be clearer, when I sudo stop foo, the changes I've made to /etc/init/foo.conf aren't showing up.
[19:02] <zero-1> alritghty then I guess that's my next attempt
[19:04] <lotuspsychje> !upstart | jouk
[19:06] <porcho> hi there. I've just update to mate 1.8.1 and I'm facing some problems with caja. right after I log, tons of instances start up, and I see lots of "Starting Caja" icons. already tried adding "-n" and "--sync" options to the Exec lines of caja*.desktop files, but that didn't work.
[19:06] <porcho> I see tons of "caja: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/caja/extensions-2.0/libcaja-actions-tracker.so: undefined symbol: g_type_add_instance_private" in my .xsession_erros file, also
[19:06] <porcho> can anyone help me?
[19:06] <lotuspsychje> porcho: maybe the #ubuntu-mate guys can help you?
[19:07] <Helperx> what font is recommed for web browsing?
[19:07] <porcho> lotuspsychje, I'll ask them. tks
[19:07] <bekks> Helperx: One which your readers can read.
[19:08] <Helperx> no i mean for just general browsing
[19:08] <Helperx> something compatible with everything
[19:08] <bekks> Helperx: There is no such font.
[19:09] <Helperx> dang lol
[19:09] <Jordan_U> Helperx: What problem are you trying to solve?
[19:09] <Helperx> small text box right now on webchat.freenode.net
[19:09] <xor_ax_ax> what are the rules to peaknuckle?
[19:10] <lotuspsychje> Helperx: use an irc chat client
[19:11] <Helperx> that wont fix the problem though of why it is like this currenltly
[19:12] <delinquentme> I assume that linux / ubuntu has some kind of internal DB it uses ... if thats correct ... just out of curiosity .. what db is it
[19:12] <delinquentme> ?
[19:12] <lotuspsychje> Helperx: this is not really an ubuntu issue right, check your webchat options, maybe you can bigger the fonts
[19:13] <Helperx> yes it is lol since when i log using windows its not an issue
[19:13] <TJ-> delinquentme: I think you assume wrongly, unless you can be more specific
[19:14] <delinquentme> TJ-,  where do things like passwords get stored?
[19:14] <delinquentme> filesystem?
[19:14] <lotuspsychje> Helperx: wich ubuntu version? wich browser?
[19:14] <TJ-> delinquentme: yes
[19:14] <Helperx> opera vivid
[19:14] <MonkeyDust> Helperx  consider using another irc client
[19:14] <delinquentme> so when linus made the quote about crappy programmers worry about their code and good ones worry about the data model
[19:14] <delinquentme> linux doesnt actually have a data model?
[19:15] <xor_ax_ax> absurd
[19:15] <tyteen4a03> Hi, I'm trying to install Ubuntu Server and want to set up RAID. I have 4 disks (imgur.com/zEYT9tS) but the installer keeps telling me only 3 are available
[19:15] <MonkeyDust> delinquentme  that's for #ubuntu-offtopic, or #ubuntu-discuss
[19:15] <lotuspsychje> Helperx: did you try firefox or chromium?
[19:15] <xor_ax_ax> delinquentme, nice trollbait
[19:15] <lotuspsychje> !raid | tyteen4a03
[19:15] <Helperx> yea
[19:15] <delinquentme> xor_ax_ax, it was just a thought that came up in passing -- apologies
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> Helperx  instead of struggling with it, try something else
[19:16] <lotuspsychje> Helperx: if all fonts are same on the browsers you tested, you sure you have same screen resolution as on windows?
[19:16] <Helperx> everything else is perfect
[19:17] <Helperx> also anyone have any fix for graphics accelration for the gma950
[19:18] <TJ-> Helperx: is there any real acceleration for the GMA950?
[19:18] <Helperx> eh not really but on windows there isnt any issue
[19:18] <Samul`> TJ-: I'm back right now
[19:18] <Samul`> so you said the cause may be a plugin(s)?
[19:18] <Helperx> such as using chrome but on ubuntu when opening and going into the chrome store it crashes the computer
[19:19] <Helperx> if i untick hardware accel it works but i dont understand why
[19:19] <Jordan_U> tyteen4a03: That picture shows the installer listing what appears to be all 4 2 TiB drives. What do you mean by the installer "only telling me 3 are available"? Can you post a picture of that?
[19:19] <TJ-> Helperx: I've been helping someone with the same chipset with other issues, and the research I did suggested it's a wrapper around a PowerVR core, and not well supported by Intel - I think that covered the GMA950 as well
[19:19] <TJ-> Samul`: That's what I read on the livemix forums
[19:19] <Helperx> and when i try to do a x server config it says the number of screens does not match the number of display
[19:20] <Helperx> so what should i do?
[19:20] <Samul`> by plugin do you mean L2V or similar (common plugins used in DAWs for reverb, eq, etc.) or another kind of plugin?
[19:20] <Helperx> i mean i tried doing sna accel and uxa
[19:21] <Helperx> did dri no 3d accel
[19:21] <TJ-> Samul`: I assumed you'd know what that meant - I've never used livemixx myself
[19:21] <Samul`> ah...
[19:21] <Samul`> okay probably they were talking about that kind of plugins
[19:22] <Samul`> but since I have 1000+ plugins installed on my system, let's move onto the next piece of software ^^"
[19:22] <TJ-> Samul`: this is where I read that info: http://www.hydrogen-music.org/hcms/node/531
[19:22] <Samul`> thank you
[19:33] <Dumle29> How would I go about making a bootable windows install USB from ubuntu?
[19:34] <sukapx> Take a USB Stick, drop your Windows and use Linux ;)
[19:34] <Dumle29> How would I go about making a bootable windows install USB from ubuntu? I'm in 15.04
[19:34] <Dumle29> sukapx: I am :P It's for my neighbours son :) He's 12 so I don't think it's linux time for him yet :P
[19:35] <neurot> Startup disk creator Dumle29
[19:35] <Dumle29> neurot: Only does linux distros doesn't it?
[19:35] <Jordan_U> Dumle29: That's more of a question for ##windows than #ubuntu.
[19:35] <Dumle29> Jordan_U: Not at all, as I know how to do it in windows
[19:36] <Dumle29> I'm trying to use ubuntu, to make a bootable USB stick, containing windows.
[19:36] <csb> Dumle29 Oracle's VirtualBox might be an option.
[19:37] <OerHeks> Dumle29, ask in ##windows and they will tell you about rufus
[19:37] <Jordan_U> Dumle29: This has more to do with the way that Windows boots than it does with the way that Ubuntu handles data. Please join ##windows and ask there.
[19:37] <Dumle29> Jordan_U: Hmm okay.
[19:38] <Dumle29> OerHeks: Right. Which is for windows, a.k.a. it doesn't run under linux :(
[19:38] <SCHAAP137> i tried running Ubuntu MATE on my i7-4790K, but it sees a 3rd/4th generation Xeon 1240 series, even though intel-microcode package is installed
[19:38] <SCHAAP137> any tips how to make it show the true processor?
[19:38] <csb> Dumle29, Have you tried Oracle's VirtualBox?
[19:39] <neurot> Dumle29 do you have a dvd just burn one
[19:39] <xor_ax_ax> Dumle29, Winusb.
[19:39] <Dumle29> xor_ax_ax: Tried that, it doesn't work (can't select the stick)
[19:39] <Dumle29> neurot: Nope, bought a key online
[19:40] <OerHeks> SCHAAP137, did you overclock?
[19:41] <csb> Dumle29, You can run Windows inside a Virtual Machine (which is running inside Ubuntu) and do stuff from there.
[19:41] <Dumle29> csb: Sure, but that's. ehh. I think I'll have to go that way though
[19:41] <neurot> Dumle29 http://askubuntu.com/questions/289559/how-can-i-create-a-windows-bootable-usb-stick-with-ubuntu
[19:41] <neurot> got to love google
[19:42] <ryan_461> n  urr
[19:42] <Dumle29> neurot: Thanks. Didn't find that one when looking around.
[19:42] <neurot> Dumle29 its cool
[19:42] <neurot> :-)
[19:43] <OerHeks> neurot, useless, no candidates for 15.04
[19:43] <Dumle29> OerHeks: The method for 14.04 should work
[19:43] <dale> on 15.04 my applications free the system when I drag them across workspaces, if I switch them using the commands (move right, move left, etc.) they work okay?
[19:43] <dawnson> is there a way to install ubuntu server on a remote computer without mouse/keyboard? via ssh maybe?
[19:43] <urandom-dev> yep
[19:44] <dale> that's freeze, not free
[19:44] <dawnson> because the installer does not detect any keyboards we have. and i have tested 8.
[19:44] <neurot> http://en.congelli.eu/prog_info_winusb.html that is what i was loooking at
[19:44] <neurot> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:colingille/freshlight
[19:44] <neurot> sudo apt-get update
[19:44] <neurot> sudo apt-get install winusb
[19:44] <Dumle29> neurot: I did manage to get winusb installed before though, by getting the saucy deb package, and installing it manually, but: http://imgur.com/o7exWst
[19:44] <urandom-dev> dawnson: the process is tricky, but there's some documentation online
[19:45] <Dumle29> neurot: Won't work, there's no PPA for 15.04
[19:45] <dawnson> urandom-dev: alternatively i would like to have my usb keyboards working during setup if that is easier :D
[19:45] <OerHeks> Dumle29, no, you have to change trusty to vivid > sudo sh -c "sed -i 's/vivid/saucy/g' /etc/apt/sources.list.d/colingille-freshlight-trusty.list
[19:45] <urandom-dev> dawnson: you basically pre-answer the questions in a config and install from whatever you're booting off of
[19:45] <OerHeks> still a bad idea
[19:45] <Dumle29> OerHeks: Yeah
[19:45] <dawnson> urandom-dev: that would work great
[19:46] <urandom-dev> dawnson: it used to be pretty tricky. I used it to setup a headless machine back in the day of 10.04. let me see if i can dig up the docs for you
[19:47] <dawnson> i have found one that assumes that you have access to a system currently running ubuntu :s
[19:47] <xor_ax_ax> Dumle29, http://askubuntu.com/questions/116885/can-i-use-ubuntu-to-write-a-windows-7-iso-to-usb/363630#363630
[19:48] <xor_ax_ax> it avoids any extraneous packages
[19:48] <xor_ax_ax> well, aside from grub i suppose....
[19:48] <urandom-dev> dawnson: oh, i forgot -- it's easy now
[19:48] <dawnson> it is? :D
[19:49] <dawnson> it looks like i need to create a kickstart file
[19:49] <dawnson> which i maybe simply need to copy to the installer usb stick
[19:50] <dawnson> but i dont know how to create such a file on os x :o
[19:50] <dawnson> hm maybe that tool is available on archlinux
[19:50] <urandom-dev> dawnson: i believe the process is to make a usb with persistence enabled, setup ssh and ssh into the headless after booting up from the usb
[19:52] <Dumle29> xor_ax_ax: Thanks :)
[19:53] <TJ-> dawnson: were all the keyboards you tried USB?
[19:53] <dawnson> TJ-: yes, i dont have any other option on this pc
[19:53] <dawnson> no PS2
[19:54] <TJ-> dawnson: and are you trying them on different USB ports in case 1 port is dead?
[19:54] <dawnson> yes
[19:54] <TJ-> dawnson: Have you enabled 'Legacy USB' in BIOS?
[19:54] <dawnson> all ports working fine, i can even boot from every usb port
[19:54] <dawnson> yes
[19:54] <dawnson> i can select the boot option from the usb stick
[19:54] <TJ-> dawnson: which release of ubuntu are you trying to install?
[19:54] <dawnson> but then at the language select option nothing works anymore
[19:54] <dawnson> 15.04 server
[19:55] <dawnson> ive had this issue with every server release since at least 12.10
[19:55] <dawnson> on all of my pcs
[19:55] <dawnson> it works just fine with ubuntu desktop though but i dont want all that
[19:55] <dawnson> i just want ubuntu server on there :)
[19:57] <TJ-> dawnson: in the installer boot screen, you can use F6 I think to  edit the kernel command-line. I'm wondering if one of the ACPI sub-options might help. Can you tell me the make/model of the system?
[19:58] <dawnson> it is the newest i5 Intel NUC
[19:58] <dawnson> let me get the box and i can tell you more
[19:58] <acz32> any benefits to using kubuntu instead of ubuntu and installing the DE through the package manager?
[19:58] <Jordan_U> dawnson: Can you only use your keyboard in X from the Ubuntu desktop CD? It's odd that your keyboard would work in what but not the other, given that they share the same core.
[19:59] <TJ-> acz32: avoiding Unity, getting to choose your desktop layout :)
[19:59] <dawnson> Jordan_U: yes, i can, but i want ubuntu server on there as it will be running a headless plex server
[19:59] <Jordan_U> acz32: If I undestood your question right, one advantage is that you're left with only Kubuntu packages, rather than having a lot of non-kubuntu packages taking space, update bandwidth, and cluttering your menus.
[19:59] <dawnson> TJ-: Intel NUC NUC5i5RYH
[20:00] <Jordan_U> dawnson: I mean can you switch to another tty from the Desktop DVD/USB and does your keyboard work there if you do?
[20:00] <N3X15> acz32, despite whatever the website says, Kubuntu 15.x is far from stable, so stick to 14.x
[20:00] <dawnson> Jordan_U: yes
[20:01] <dawnson> TJ-: it is an i5-5250U according to lscpu
[20:01] <dawnson> not sure if you need any more information
[20:01] <TJ-> dawnson: I'm reading hints that there are problems with APIC (Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller) ... you could try "noapic" on the kernel command line
[20:01] <dawnson> it is currently running archlinu but the plex server package has some problems there and ubuntu is officially supported
[20:01] <dawnson> TJ-: i will try that, one moment
[20:02] <acz32> N3X15: is all 15.x unstable or just 15.2 which it shipped with? i heard 15.3 is better
[20:02] <Jordan_U> TJ-: Wouldn't you expect such a problem to affect all flavors of Ubuntu equally though?
[20:02] <acz32> well somoene could just to a minimal ubuntu install and choose the DE in the install process
[20:02] <dawnson> TJ-: i add that to the linux line? after "quiet ---"?
[20:02] <N3X15> acz32, all I know is that I've been unable to edit settings for KDE on two seperate installations and the non-breeze themes are just totally broken
[20:02] <TJ-> dawnson: Jordan_U: Might be a BIOS config issue - I was going to suggest doing a BIOS load factory defaults
[20:03] <dawnson> it is all factory default, i just got this pc yeterday :)
[20:03] <TJ-> dawnson: Yes... but unless there is something special you've set in BIOS I'd strongly recommend trying BIOS default settings first
[20:03] <dawnson> well except for disabling bios boot, it is going to be efi only
[20:03] <TJ-> dawnson: The thing is, NVRAM can get weird settings in it and only a factory reset will clear them
[20:03] <acz32> N3X15: ya i've heard a lot of complaints. i use debian which has kde 4.x
[20:03] <dawnson> noapic does not work either
[20:04] <N3X15> Also, I'm considering just dropping KDE altogether since their developers would rather bicker over politics rather than fix serious issues
[20:05] <dawnson> N3X15: thats why i am using gnome 3 until papyros-shell is ready :)
[20:05] <N3X15> dawnson, I highly doubt that will ever happen, given the current glacial pace of development with them.
[20:06] <N3X15> You'd be better off asking Valve to made a DM.
[20:06] <dawnson> why? first beta is due to be released soon and i am running the development version on my laptop
[20:06] <dawnson> oh valve has already done that, it is powering steamOS which i am also running :P
[20:06] <Jordan_U> !ot | N3X15 dawnson
[20:07] <acz32> N3X15: i switched to kde from using a wm only. i just like it because it is the most customisable de
[20:07] <dawnson> hmm is it possible to mount a "write protected" partiotn as rw?
[20:07] <acz32> i know nothing about the politics behind the team
[20:08] <Jordan_U> dawnson: How is it "write protected"?
[20:08] <dawnson> Jordan_U: i am not sure, it is the ubuntu server installation usb stick
[20:09] <dawnson> it says mount: /dev/sdb1 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[20:09] <Jordan_U> dawnson: Did you use dd to prepare the USB?
[20:09] <dawnson> Jordan_U: yes
[20:09] <dawnson> i want to edit some files so i dont need the keyboard during setup
[20:09] <Jordan_U> dawnson: Then it's a read-only iso9660 filesystem. You can't modify it without re-creating the entire FS.
[20:10] <dawnson> hm
[20:10] <dawnson> then it will be a lot harder than i expected
[20:10] <dawnson> how am i supposed to do that? :(
[20:11] <Jordan_U> dawnson: What files are you trying to edit?
[20:11] <Jordan_U> dawnson: If you use a tool like USB startup disk creator or Unetbootin you will get a fat32 filesystem rather than iso9660.
[20:11] <dawnson> the /isolinux/langlist file for example
[20:12] <dawnson> but unetbootin does not support efi boot
[20:15] <Jordan_U> dawnson: I think that the resulting USB drive will boot via UEFI, simply by virtue of having a /EFI/BOOTX64.efi on a fat32 partition. If not, then ensure that you're using GPT and mark the fat32 partition as an EFI System Partition and it should definitely work.
[20:17] <samthewildone> Trying to launch samba but get this error > http://pastebin.com/LDsYYe3Y
[20:17] <samthewildone> also this is a fresh install of 15.04 fully upgraded.
[20:18] <dawnson> hmm ok i will try it then with unetbootin
[20:18] <samthewildone> Also I cannot launch "samba" when entered into dash
[20:18] <dawnson> i can also add the storage option, is it easy to enable ssh from there?
[20:18] <Ben64> samthewildone: that is not how to start it.
[20:18] <dawnson> not sure if that will work with ubuntu server though
[20:18] <k1l_> samthewildone: that is not the way you launch it
[20:18] <k1l_> samthewildone: its a background service. not a program like firefox.
[20:18] <Ben64> samthewildone: sudo service samba start
[20:19] <k1l_> samthewildone: sudo systemctl start smbd
[20:20] <k1l_> Ben64: its all systemd now, dont know if the upstart service scripts still work
[20:20] <samthewildone> https://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/03/filesharing-in-windows-7-and-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[20:20] <Ben64> k1l_: d'oh
[20:20] <samthewildone> I'm trying to setup samba... so how can start it without configuring anything yet ?
[20:21] <k1l_> samthewildone: nautilus can handle samba shares. just browse the network
[20:23] <invitado> Hola
[20:23] <kris27mc> Hi
[20:23] <invitado> como estan
[20:24] <lotuspsychje> !es | invader
[20:26] <dawnson> unetbootin doesnot recognise my usb sticks >_>
[20:26] <dawnson> why doesnt ubuntu server support the same input devices as the desktop version?
[20:26] <samthewildone> So I see my workgroup in nautilus but, what username and password do I use ?
[20:27] <samthewildone> Since I don't have username on windows where do I go from here ?
[20:27] <Jordan_U> dawnson: Use Gparted to create a new partition table on them, be sure to use GPT, then create a single FAT32 partition and give it the "bootable" flag (or whatever GParted calls giving a partition the appropriate GUID for an EFI System Partition).
[20:27] <bekks> samthewildone: Ask your Windows administrator.
[20:28] <samthewildone> I am the admin
[20:28] <bekks> samthewildone: Then you should know your Windows credentials.
[20:29] <kris27mc> I'm running Ubuntu Studio 15.04 and I'm attempting to install Spotify. I need "libgcrypt.so.11" but it isn't in the Vivid repository. Is it safe to add an older repo, like Trusty? There's a newer package called "libgcrypt.so.20" but it's incompatible. So is it safe to add an old repo or is there a safe source?
[20:29] <dawnson> Jordan_U: ah, thanks
[20:29] <Ben64> kris27mc: no
[20:30] <kris27mc> So there's no way to get the package? Or?
[20:30] <samthewildone> bekks, I'm able to login but, only see two folders, "ADMIN$" & "C$"
[20:30] <Ben64> kris27mc: i don't know, but you should not mix versions
[20:30] <samthewildone> when I try to access these folders it says "password required for share admin$ on blackbird"
[20:31] <xangua> kris27mc: you can also use spotify on a web browser (uses flash)
[20:31] <samthewildone> bekks, I'm all out of passwords... ^
[20:31] <samthewildone> bekks, when I try to connect as anonymous the gui freezes.
[20:33] <TJ-> samthewildone: check "/var/log/samba/log.<ip-address-of-server>" for indications of the problem
[20:34] <Ben64> samthewildone: why are you trying to access ADMIN$
[20:35] <bekks> samthewildone: Did you create a regulary share yet?
[20:35] <samthewildone> TJ-, I already did, first time it say's I was missing a ucommon-utilus ... installed it and did a cat of the log.
[20:36] <samthewildone> Ben64, well once I logged into WORKGROUP there were only two folders.
[20:36] <abel> hola!
[20:36] <bekks> samthewildone: So create a regular share on the windows side.
[20:36] <samthewildone> Here's the log > http://pastebin.com/YuWGbirg
[20:37] <OerHeks> kris27mc, known issue >http://www.webupd8.org/2015/04/fix-missing-libgcrypt11-causing-spotify.html
[20:37] <samthewildone> brb doing a recommended restart
[20:37] <TJ-> samthewildone: The Windows PC has at least 1 user-defined shared active, does it?
[20:39] <samthewildone> TJ-, what were you saying ?
[20:39] <dawnson> why does the image contain a full jdk but not the same usb keyboard support as the desktoop iso? oO
[20:39] <TJ-> samthewildone: The Windows PC has at least 1 user-defined shared active, does it?
[20:40] <samthewildone> TJ-, idk
[20:40] <TJ-> dawnson: You fixed it?
[20:40] <dawnson> still creating a unetbootin stick
[20:40] <samthewildone> TJ-, all I want to do is share my videos folder
[20:40] <Jordan_U> dawnson: I would expect it to have the same USB support, which is why I'm so surprised that you get different results with the different flavors.
[20:40] <dawnson> so i can edit a simple text file on the installer >_>
[20:40] <bekks> samthewildone: So create a share.
[20:40] <samthewildone> our at least "My Documents" folder
[20:40] <dawnson> Jordan_U: it does not, or at least the installer doesnt
[20:40]  * samthewildone smashes his head against the comp
[20:41] <sor_> not sure if this is a bug I typically don't run ubuntu (LFS is my main box) so i am not sure if it's a config issue -- anyway on a laptop with unity hooked up to a tv -vga- when i turn the laptop display off and the computer suspends It can't wake up the tv
[20:41] <dawnson> there a year old bugs that get closed every time because it wont be fixed in this release and then someones the bug for the next release and they ask for the same information again and it starts all over
[20:41] <sor_> any thoughts
[20:43] <Jordan_U> dawnson: Is there a bug report filed about this particular problem?
[20:43] <dawnson> Jordan_U: i found 2 or 3 for older ubuntu version the last time i searched
[20:43] <dawnson> after about 3+ hours of research
[20:43] <dawnson> so they are a bit hard to find, but if i should come across them i can send you the link
[20:44] <dawnson> unfortunately i have to work at the moment, while also trying to get this stupid release to install :D
[20:44] <kris27mc> I solved the problem using wget and dpkg. Thanks for the help
[20:45] <Jordan_U> dawnson: Another option for installing would be to boot from a LiveCD/USB, install kvm, then run "sudo kvm -hda /dev/sdX -cdrom /path/to/ubuntu-server.iso". Then you would just have to ensure that you don't mount any of the partitions on your internal drive during the installation.
[20:46] <amari> How do I configure a slideshow for the background in Unity?
[20:47] <dawnson> jmmm
[20:47] <Jordan_U> dawnson: Probably want to add a "-boot d" to that kvm command so that it boots from the server iso rather than your internal drive.
[20:47] <dawnson> Jordan_U: that way i would need a live stick that also includes the iso file, right? >_>
[20:47] <Jordan_U> dawnson: Correct.
[20:47] <dawnson> hm. why is this so complicated? T_T
[20:48] <dawnson> editing the file on the unetbootin stick did not seem to work
[20:48] <Jordan_U> dawnson: What file did you edit, and what change did you make?
[20:48] <dawnson> i changed /isolinux/langlist to only include the line en
[20:49] <dawnson> which should skip the language select option
[20:49] <Jordan_U> dawnson: When booting via UEFI you're using grub, not isolinux.
[20:49] <dawnson> hm
[20:49] <dawnson> hm hm hm
[20:49] <dawnson> then i need new instructions on how to make the installer unattended from OS X
[20:50] <dawnson> or from archlinux
[20:52] <dawnson> unfortunately it wants me to install the system-config-kickstart package which is not available on archlinux or for os c
[20:52] <dawnson> *x
[20:52] <dawnson> can someone install it and create a kickstart file for me with this command? >_> system-config-kickstart
[20:52] <weet> i thought you meant a kickstarter campaign
[20:52] <weet> i was like wat
[20:53] <dawnson> hm
[20:53] <dawnson> it looks like it is more complicated than that
[20:53] <dawnson> i would also have to generate a preseed file somehow
[20:53] <dawnson> it cant be that complicated.. it is easier for both os x and windows!
[20:55] <MrDoctor> Is there a unity backports ppa for ubuntu 14.04?
[20:56] <Reaperious> Sup ?
[20:56] <Jordan_U> dawnson: There is a kickstart file posted in the third answer here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/122505/how-do-i-create-a-completely-unattended-install-of-ubuntu
[20:56] <dawnson> Jordan_U: thanks, but how to i generate the preseed file from os x?
[20:57] <traekili> os x?
[20:57] <dawnson> mac os x
[20:57] <bekks> dawnson: Install an Ubuntu VM and do it inside the VM.
[20:58] <Jordan_U> dawnson: The same post includes a full preseed file as well. (I haven't verified the correctness of either files).
[20:58] <dawnson> bekks thats a bit complicated and also i am not allowed to install a virtualisation software on my company laptop :p
[20:58] <dawnson> hmm
[20:58] <samthewildone> bekks, I got it to work but how I am I able to view my ubuntu files on windows now ?
[20:58] <dawnson> i cant find the preseed file there
[20:58] <bekks> dawnson: But you are allowed to runArchlinux and OSX on your company laptop?
[20:59] <dawnson> bekks: no, archlinux is running on the pc i want to install ubuntu on
[20:59] <samthewildone> I'm able to see my computer in windows but cannot connect to it or browse
[20:59] <Jordan_U> dawnson: Search for "The key differences are setting this as the preseed file:".
[20:59] <bekks> samthewildone: Install samba, and create a share.
[20:59] <samthewildone> on win?
[20:59] <samthewildone> duh...
[20:59] <dawnson> Jordan_U: ah so the preseed file is just a text file as well?
[20:59] <bekks> samthewildone: No. On Ubuntu.
[20:59] <Jordan_U> dawnson: Yes.
[21:00] <dawnson> oh.
[21:00] <dawnson> thanks :D
[21:00] <dawnson> will see if that gets me somewhere
[21:00] <Jordan_U> dawnson: You're welcome :)
[21:00] <samthewildone> bekks, thats the problem !
[21:00] <samthewildone> bekks, I did install it but, it won't launch
[21:00] <bekks> samthewildone: Did you configure it?
[21:00] <samthewildone> bekks, it keeps giving me an error, I'm unable to configure it.
[21:01] <Jordan_U> dawnson: If not, the kvm method will definitely work, just be sure to install ssh in the VM before trying to reboot in case your keyboard doesn't work in the installed system either.
[21:01] <bekks> samthewildone: Which error prevents you from opening the config file with a text editor?
[21:01] <samthewildone> ok configuring
[21:01] <samthewildone> *oh
[21:01] <samthewildone> bekks, which file do I edit ?
[21:02] <samthewildone> bekks, can I pm you ?
[21:04] <bekks> samthewildone: So I take that as "no I did not even try to configure samba yet".
[21:05]  * samthewildone runs from bekks
[21:05] <samthewildone> bekks, nope
[21:05] <samthewildone> bekks, I'm relying on the gui application.
[21:05] <bekks> Forget that GUI.
[21:05] <samthewildone> bekks, that doesn't seem to work
[21:05] <bekks> samthewildone: Did you read this already?: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba
[21:06] <samthewildone> bekks, a while back... yes
[21:07] <OerHeks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/vivid/+package/system-config-samba
[21:13] <dawnson> Jordan_U: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1244176
[21:13] <kuba7447> what is the best python IDE ???
[21:14] <traekili> idle
[21:14] <Reaperious> kuba7447 have you checked out Eclipse ?. Im not sure, but i think that covers most of things ?
[21:15] <kuba7447> what about ninja-ide ?
[21:15] <kuba7447> i did tried eclipse for java
[21:15] <Reaperious> <--- Cant program, so i realy dont know.
[21:15] <brainwash_> !best
[21:15] <Reaperious> I want to learn, but never had the gutts to do it
[21:15] <kuba7447> <------ same
[21:16] <kuba7447> i want to start with python
[21:16] <brainwash_> then ask in #python please
[21:16] <traekili> they are helpful there btw
[21:16] <kuba7447> ok, thanks
[21:16] <smamir> ping!
[21:17] <kuba7447> #python dosent work
[21:17] <smamir> Can I get help with something?
[21:17] <traekili> ##python
[21:18] <kuba7447> it says "unregistered"
[21:18] <traekili> needs one more octothorpe
[21:18] <Reaperious> Must register you nick at freenode, i dont know annything more than that. Just checked myself
[21:18] <bekks> !register | kuba7447
[21:20] <smamir> guys! little help here?
[21:20] <Jordan_U> dawnson: What version of Ubuntu server are you trying to install?
[21:21] <dawnson> Jordan_U: 15.04
[21:21] <traekili> is 15
[21:21] <traekili> an lts
[21:21] <dawnson> idk and idc
[21:21] <dawnson> i want the newest one
[21:21] <Jordan_U> traekili: No, Ubuntu 15.04 is not an LTS release.
[21:22] <dawnson> and yes, i have tried the lts one as well
[21:22] <Jordan_U> dawnson: From reading that bug report, that particular bug is fixed in Ubuntu 15.04. You may be hitting a different, if similar, bug.
[21:22] <genii> traekili: All even numbered releases ending with .04 are LTS
[21:22] <dawnson> Jordan_U: but the last comment says that it is still in 15.04?
[21:23] <traekili> ok thank you Jordan_U and genii
[21:23] <dawnson> also i am not sure what exactly is causing this, but i have had the same symptoms for yeats
[21:23] <Jordan_U> dawnson: "Still not working with the 06-Jun-2015 Trusty Netboot installer." Trusty is Ubuntu 14.04.
[21:23] <dawnson> oh
[21:23] <Reaperious> I want to help ubuntu in some way, programming or annything. But i cant program :(
[21:23] <dawnson> well it is not working in 15.04 fo rme :D
[21:24] <melvin> Does anyone know what repository i should use for Wireless Intel adapter 7260?
[21:24] <gregL> smamir I doubt anyone will acknowledge you with out a question first... It's best to ask your question and if anyone knows the answer they will chime in...
[21:24] <melvin> "driver"
[21:24] <Jordan_U> !contribute | Reaperious
[21:25] <smamir> thanks gregL :)
[21:25] <gregL> np
[21:25] <TJ-> dawnson: does this always affect the same PC, or lots of different PCs ?
[21:26] <dawnson> TJ-: at least 4 different machines i can remember
[21:26] <dawnson> i self build desktop c, 2 different generation intel NUCs and one dell XPS 13
[21:27] <smamir> The name of months and days in calendar are by default showing in my local language. Can I reverse it back to English? I'm using 14.04
[21:29] <gregL> smamir http://askubuntu.com/questions/288346/how-do-i-change-the-calendar-language
[21:29] <Jordan_U> dawnson: Were you using the same keyboard for most of these machines?
[21:30] <dawnson> Jordan_U: i tried multiple keyboards on them all. for the XPS the built in one worked afair
[21:30] <dawnson> i tried several cheap and not so cheap logitech ones, wired and with a usb dongle as well as some razor and roccat ones
[21:33] <Jordan_U> dawnson: Your problem likely is caused by needing a kernel module which is available in /lib/modules/ but isn't included in the initramfs. That would explain why the installer failes but the Live system doesn't. That would mean that once installed, Ubuntu server would work with your keyboard.
[21:33] <Guest9568> can anyone here vouch for boot-repair? I ran ntfsfix on my Windows 8 drive and now I can't boot to it
[21:33] <Jordan_U> Guest9568: Use Windows' chkdsk for repairing ntfs filesystems.
[21:34] <dawnson> Jordan_U: yes, (but the deskop installer works fine as well), thats what i am trying to do. I hope that the installer stick i am creating now will work correctly. previously i had edited a wrong file and overwritten the values in there, now i have to start over
[21:34] <dawnson> unfortunately it takes forever, because the image includes a lot of crap i dont need
[21:35] <Jordan_U> dawnson: The desktop installer uses a full root filesystem rather than staying within the initramfs, that's why it works.
[21:35] <__Myst__> Why does setting $DISPLAY to "localhost:0.0" case an infinite log-in loop?
[21:35] <dawnson> Jordan_U: and why are these not included in the initramfs?
[21:35] <__Myst__> Every time I try to log-in It sends me back to the log-in screen
[21:35] <__Myst__> Removing the "export DISPLAY='localhost:0.0'" line fixed it.
[21:35] <__Myst__> Halp?
[21:36] <Jordan_U> dawnson: Oversight most likely.
[21:36] <dawnson> Jordan_U: any ideas if/when this might get changed?
[21:36] <k1l_> __Myst__: is that a setting that should work at all?
[21:37] <__Myst__> k1l_: I wanted to set $DISPLay for feh
[21:38] <__Myst__> Cause feh doesn't set my display when I run it from cron
[21:38] <Jordan_U> dawnson: If you can figure out what module needs to be added to support your hardware and file a bug report with that information it should be a one line fix (which wouldn't immediately take affect in the installation media).
[21:38] <k1l_> __Myst__: i dont think the xserver is listening for tcp connections at all
[21:38] <dawnson> hmm no idea what that would be
[21:39] <__Myst__> k1l_: How do I change my wallpaper periodically then?
[21:39] <__Myst__> Also, what is ctrl+alt+f1 useful for?
[21:39] <__Myst__> I mean, I just used it to remove that line from my .bashrc; But I see no other use.
[21:39] <k1l_> __Myst__: ctrl+alt+f1 is tty1
[21:40] <k1l_> __Myst__: what desktop are you running?
[21:40] <__Myst__> k1l_: Yeah, I know it's a terminal. But whatis its purp?
[21:40] <__Myst__> purpose
[21:40] <Jordan_U> dawnson: If you can figure out how to do so without the keyboard working, running "lsmod" in the initramfs then again after switching to the full filesystem (with the keyboard then working) and comparing the two it would proably be obvious which additional module relates to your USB keyboard.
[21:40] <__Myst__> k1l_: I3 is what my WM is. is that related?
[21:40] <k1l_> __Myst__: of course its related if you ask about trouble with setting the wallpeper
[21:40] <k1l_> *paper
[21:40] <__Myst__> k1l_: I'm running i3.
[21:41] <dawnson> yes, but how can i run lsmod without the keyboard working? its an egg/henn problem, isnt it?
[21:41] <k1l_> but if you know everything and just rant about stuff you dont understand i loose motivation to help you
[21:41] <__Myst__> k1l_: me?
[21:43] <Jordan_U> dawnson: You could pass "init=/sbin/lsmod" as a kernel parameter, which will cause lsmod to be run (followed by a kernel panic when it exits :).
[21:43] <__Myst__> KernelPanic? What's that?
[21:44] <TJ-> dawnson: You can break inside the initrd, using "break=XXXX" on the kernel command-line, where XXXX is some place to break
[21:44] <traekili> init=/bin/bash ?
[21:45] <TJ-> dawnson: to discover the active XXXX options you can choose do: "grep maybe_break /usr/share/initramfs-tools/init"
[21:45] <traekili> then lsmod
[21:45] <dawnson> hm
[21:45] <TJ-> dawnson:  I'd suggest "break=modules"
[21:45] <Jordan_U> TJ-: Then how would dawnson run lsmod, given that they at that point will have no ability to use their keyboard? For some background, we think that their keyboard requires a kernel module that is included in /lib/modules/ but is not included in their initramfs, and we want to figure out what module that is.
[21:45] <xmount> so im new to web developing and would like to learn how and know what the best way to learn it is?
[21:46] <Jordan_U> dawnson: Actually, from archlinux (or an Ubuntu LiveCD/USB) on the system in question please run "lspci -k" and "lsusb".
[21:46] <dawnson> ok, one moment
[21:46] <TJ-> Jordan_U: At that point, if dawnson is lucky, the BIOS Legacy USB driver will still be active
[21:46] <dawnson> i finish up the usb stick then walk over and run the command and try to set it
[21:46] <dawnson> TJ-: it is active
[21:49] <dawnson> Jordan_U: how do i get the output to you from that machine? :s
[21:49] <dawnson> is there a way to pipe it to pastebin or something?
[21:51] <dawnson> hmmm it looks like that might work
[21:51] <Jordan_U> dawnson: "lspci -k | pastebinit" or "lspci -k | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us".
[21:53] <TJ-> Sorry; GPU died, grrr.
[21:54] <dawnson> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/
[21:54] <dawnson> err
[21:54] <dawnson> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11692598
[21:54] <Guest53970> #ubuntu-ru
[21:55] <leafybasil> clear
[21:55] <dawnson> Jordan_U: it currently looks like the automated setup might work
[21:59] <josias> boa noite
[22:00] <Jordan_U> dawnson: OK, you're not using ohci-pci, which confirms that https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1244176 doesn't apply to you. You are using xhci_hcd, xhci_pci, ehci-pci, and ehci_pci. I'm checking to see if all of those are included in the initramfs by default now.
[22:01] <josias> BOA NOITE. ALGUÉM ONLINE?
[22:01] <k1l_> !br | josias
[22:02] <Zack263> do u guys have an egg timer that will beep or go off on screen... in the ubuntu store?
[22:02] <Jon__> Hey all :)
[22:02] <Zack263> Hi Jon!
[22:03] <Jon__> Im thinking of installing Ubuntu on my workstation, but im not sure if i should go with server or desktop
[22:03] <Jon__> Is server just desktop without Gnome/KDE/etc?
[22:03] <Zack263> Well server doesn't have the GOOY interface
[22:03] <Zack263> its all text
[22:03] <Jon__> Hm
[22:03] <Zack263> if your new to Linux I would go for ubuntu
[22:03] <Zack263> not the server
[22:03] <Zack263> and I would put knoppix on a flash stick to boot to for fun
[22:03] <Jon__> Im pretty good with linux actually - using it for years :)
[22:04] <Zack263> hmmm
[22:04] <dawnson> hmm the automated installer does not seem to work as i expected
[22:04] <Jon__> One time even, no jokes, installed Gentoo from stage 1
[22:04] <Zack263> well the question is are u content with terminal only?
[22:04] <Jon__> But im older now, and I dnot get any satisfaction in making my life harder than need be
[22:04] <Jon__> Yeah sure :)
[22:04] <Zack263> what are you gonna do with your linux machine?
[22:04] <k1l_> Jon__: the server got the same kernel and packages, just not an installed desktop. so it boots up to a tt1
[22:04] <k1l_> *tty
[22:05] <Jon__> I write javascript software to crunch numbers in Biology
[22:05] <Zack263> oh well I would use the gooy
[22:05] <Jordan_U> dawnson: Commit 9bc3a784 added xhci-pci to the list of modules, so now I'm looking to see if that commit made it into Ubuntu 15.04.
[22:05] <Jon__> yeah you're probably right
[22:05] <Jon__> less headaches down the road
[22:06] <Jon__> k1l_:  ah ok, simple enough differnce
[22:06] <Jon__> I guess i can always install KDE or whatever later right?
[22:06] <dawnson> Jordan_U: thx
[22:06] <Zack263> i dont think i use kde
[22:06] <Zack263> I think i'm on unity
[22:06] <Zack263> i always forget which one is which
[22:07] <Zack263> or is it called gnome
[22:07] <k1l_> Jon__: yes.
[22:07] <Zack263> lol
[22:07] <Zack263> very confusing all those interfaces
[22:07] <Zack263> kde is more like windows
[22:07] <Zack263> I think my knooppix disk has kde
[22:07] <Zack263> I'm not new to linux but i am new
[22:08] <Zack263> I finally took a deeper dive into it
[22:08] <Zack263> to find out that its easier than windows
[22:08] <Zack263> i think
[22:08] <dawnson> i think my issue is that the preseed file tries to install ubuntu on /dev/sda but /dev/sda is the usb stick if i boot from it. is that possible?
[22:08] <Zack263> if i look up instructions for ubuntu stuff it usually works
[22:08] <Zack263> not so much for windows
[22:09] <Zack263> I'm not really an ubuntu expert dawnson to help you.
[22:09] <Zack263> I usually use a special program to install linux distro to a flash stick
[22:10] <Zack263> if thats what your trying to do
[22:10] <bekks> I usually just use dd to put Ubuntu onto a stick.
[22:10] <Zack263> dd?
[22:10] <bekks> dd.
[22:10] <dawnson> no, i want to install ubuntu server without any inut because my keyboard does not work during setup
[22:11] <Zack263> I don't know dawson its a little over my skill level for ubuntu
[22:12] <Jordan_U> Would someone running Ubuntu 15.04 please pastebin the contents of /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hook-functions ? It will save me some time looking for the package and extracting it manually.
[22:12] <Amm0n> dawnson, you got grub2 on this machine?
[22:12] <xmount> im looking to learn web development anybody have any advice?
[22:12] <dawnson> Amm0n: no, it is currently running archlinux with gummiboot
[22:13] <Zack263> xmount... "web development" is a wide open area
[22:13] <Guest12955> Hey, why is it that when I jump between a workspace in unity it drags my current open window with it? It's really annoying 0_0
[22:13] <Zack263> xmount  - i'd say focus in on apple 5 or 7 stores....
[22:13] <Zack263> focus in on adobe products maybe
[22:13] <Amm0n> grub2 can boot iso's but i don't know about gummiboot sry
[22:13] <Zack263> but its all preference to wear u want to focus
[22:13] <Guest12955> I hit shift + ctrl + alt + left to jump to the left and it drags my window with it!
[22:14] <Zack263> xmout i also want to do webdevelopment
[22:14] <k1l_> Guest12955: loos the shift
[22:14] <Zack263> but theres so much info and so many areas
[22:14] <k1l_> the shift tells the window to switch the workspace.
[22:14] <Zack263> its very hard to narrow down focus
[22:14] <Guest12955> k1l_ thanks sounds like the problem...
[22:14] <herrkin> hello, has somebody ever worked with a huawei 353s-2 modem? I cant figure out how to comunicate with it. I tried with others and the ports open, I can see 3 ports in dmesg for this modem but when I try to send commands to them the console says the file doesnt exist. have any idea where I can find help with that?
[22:15] <xmount> Zack263, are there tutorials out there that you know about?
[22:15] <k1l_> Guest12955: if you keep holding the super key the shortcuts get explained
[22:16] <xmount> as far as php, html, mysql go
[22:16] <reisio> #php, #html, #mysql
[22:17] <reisio> do yourself a favor and replace the first and last with an alternative, though :)
[22:17] <NightKhaos> Why does the SFTP utility not support reput? I need to provide a solution to resume failed transfers to an SFTP server and I'm having trouble finding a client that will do it on Ubuntu (and if anyone says use rsync, the server is an SFTP server, it doesn't have rsync)..
[22:17] <Guest12955> k1l_ still not working. Changed the shortcut via settings to [alt + arrowkey] and it still drags the current window into the workspace :S
[22:17] <Zack263> xmount i sent you a private message so we dont flood the room on offtopic topic
[22:19] <Jordan_U> dawnson: Ubuntu 15.04 does *not* have xhci-pci included in its initramfs, so that is almost certainly the problem you're hitting. The bug has been fixed upstream in Debian, and therefore will be in the next release of Ubuntu. If you'd like it backported to Ubuntu 15.04 please file a new bug report with "ubuntu-bug initramfs-tools" and say that you are hitting Debian bug #773250 and that you would like the fix applied ...
[22:20] <Jordan_U> ... there to be backported to Ubuntu 15.04, and ask for new install media to be created. (I'm not very hopeful about the request for new install media being granted for a non LTS release).
[22:20] <dawnson> Jordan_U: is there a workaround?
[22:20] <OerHeks> NightKhaos, i believe the server needs resume enabled, clients are usually ready
[22:21] <OerHeks> at least filezilla is
[22:22] <Jordan_U> dawnson: You could unpack the initramfs, add the xhci-pci module to /lib/modules/, then repack it.
[22:22] <dawnson> is that complicated? :D
[22:22] <sireorion> hey everybody... i have maked a big misstake... i have lost my PHP prefix
[22:22] <__Myst__> What is tty1?
[22:23] <NightKhaos> Why does the SFTP utility not support repuOerHeks: man sftp (Ubuntu 14.04), does not support resume. (No reput/put -a). Similarly with CentOS. BSD however has reput support. This is specifically a client problem.
[22:24] <NightKhaos> Apparently Ctrl+A doesnt' work in this IRC client... *sigh* Anyway. OerHeks see above.
[22:25] <ObrienDave> __Myst__, #1 terminal. TTY = TeleTYpe
[22:25] <Jordan_U> dawnson: Somewhat, yes. I may have time tomorrow to make a new initramfs that you could use.
[22:26] <sireorion> is there anyone that can help me with php prefix?
[22:26] <dawnson> Jordan_U: that would be great :) i am trying once more with the automated installer, but if it wont work still then i will give up with this method :D
[22:27] <Guest12955> Hey, why is it that when I jump between a workspace in unity it drags my current open window with it? It's really annoying 0_0 I've changed my shortcut to alt + [arrow] and it's still dragging the top-most window into the new workspace!
[22:28] <__Myst__> ObrienDave: So why #1? What is #2?
[22:29] <schnitz> rehi
[22:30] <schnitz> general question: how does ubunutu / ubuntu cope with changing mainboards 'under its feet'? Both AMD boards, but different sizes / versions.... thinking of just swapping boards... will I need to completely reinstall ubuntu?
[22:30] <reisio> schnitz: no, but you may need to reconfig
[22:30] <schnitz> sure
[22:30] <schnitz> it should still boot though, right...
[22:31] <reisio> schnitz: any onboard devices you're relying on, audio, graphics, etc., disk controllers
[22:31] <reisio> it may well still boot
[22:31] <reisio> if it doesn't you can fix it from your install media (without reinstalling)
[22:31] <schnitz> of course, no garantuee
[22:31] <schnitz> have no install media... will an ISO do?
[22:31] <reisio> the kernel is very fat, made for lots of hardware
[22:31] <reisio> most any Unixy live OS, yes
[22:31] <schnitz> right
[22:32] <schnitz> seems worth trying... thanks for letting me know :-)
[22:33] <ObrienDave> __Myst__, TTY2
[22:33] <ObrienDave> __Myst__, can do #1 thru 6. iirc
[22:36] <__Myst__> ObrienDave: How do I choose?
[22:37] <dawnson> Jordan_U: do you think adding an insmod line to grup will work?
[22:38] <sarkie> (since no one replied in elementary)  hi all, ive managed to mess up my elementaryos, with nvidia uninstaller and apt-get, so now I've lost network-manager I think so can't connect on it, I'm dual booting with windows, is there a way I can overwrite the installation with the live cd so I don't lose /home and whatever? maybe apt-cdrom?
[22:38] <bekks> sarkie: We have no clue about Elementary OS.
[22:38] <bekks> !elementaryos
[22:38] <bekks> !elementary
[22:38] <ObrienDave> __Myst__, CTRL-ALT F1 thru F6 are the terminal shortcuts
[22:38] <__Myst__> oh okay
[22:39] <__Myst__> What can I use them for?
[22:39] <sarkie> bekks: imagine if it was ubuntu, is it possible?
[22:39] <bekks> sarkie: My imagination is sufficient to magically make Ubuntu out of ElementaryOS.
[22:40] <LavaLampShade> _Guest12955_, silly question, but did you make that window sticky to all windows?
[22:45] <dawnson> :O it is installing the system. i hope it finishes :3
[22:46] <dawnson> so close. but i hope i can fix this one
[22:47] <kokut> hello, anyone knows if clamv is really needed? how can i remove it?
[22:49] <Bashing-om> !virus | kokut
[22:49] <Koyaanis> !linux
[22:52] <reisio> !spam?
[22:52] <reisio> no chance there
[22:52] <reisio> kokut: remove it as with any other app
[22:53] <dionysus69> hey all i have an emergency, first I edited something I shouldnt have in disk util, I changed "identify as" values of the partitions including the root partition and now it drops me to some root of some weird dir, basically I can assume it cant even mount the root partition, so now I booted with the advanced option called "upstard" in the grub menu, how??? what is upstart and how do I change the values back so I can boot regularly???
[22:53] <dionysus69> upstart* i meant
[22:54] <Dumle29> i know nothing, other that I'd just boot with a live CD and revert the things I did in your case
[22:55] <dionysus69> Dumle29: I dont have to boot live cd, I am in the system I could only boot using the upstart option in grub
[22:55] <dionysus69> i dont even know what is upstart before there were only two options, regular and recovery
[22:55] <Dumle29> dionysus69: No idea what that is :P Upstart is the service management system (that they replaced with systemmd in 15.04)
[22:56] <Dumle29> s/systemmd/systemd
[22:56] <dionysus69> well I dont know what upstart is in my case but i have heard about that when I googled
[22:56] <Dumle29> Again. I'd just boot with a live cd (or usb) and fix it from there
[22:56] <dionysus69> can you tell me how you have it there
[22:57] <dionysus69> open disk util
[22:57] <dionysus69> change mount options
[22:57] <dionysus69> what is there written for "identify as"
[22:57] <dionysus69> i ll try selecting the same option i just dont remember which one was by default
[22:57] <Dumle29> For my main disk?
[22:57] <dionysus69> i mean for the root partition yes
[22:58] <dawnson> does the installer write a log file to the disk if an error appears, even if you just reboot the PC without exiting the installer?
[22:58] <dionysus69> do you use efi partition too?
[22:59] <Dumle29> dionysus69: http://imgur.com/5ctMlaS
[23:00] <dionysus69> does it say same for "matches the device with the given uuid" for efi partition?
[23:01] <Dumle29> I'm not entirely sure what you are asking
[23:01] <dawnson> hmmm ok, the installation completed, then i got a "bootin in insecure mode" message and now i have a black screen
[23:01] <dawnson> whee
[23:02] <dionysus69> well your root partition is identiffied by the uuid
[23:02] <dionysus69> thats what it said below the line you deleted in the screenshot
[23:02] <Dumle29> dionysus69: That's just the UUID of my harddisk
[23:02] <dionysus69> ye i know but i changed the indentify option of my own hard dist to something else than uuid
[23:03] <dionysus69> was wondering what i had to put it back to
[23:03] <dionysus69> problem is that i change efi partition too haha
[23:03] <Dumle29> dionysus69: I have 5 options, 4 of which start with /dev/ the one selected in there just starts with UUID
[23:03] <dionysus69> ye will try with that one now
[23:03] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | dawnson Maybe ?
[23:03] <dionysus69> thanks :)
[23:04] <dawnson> hm somehow it worked now
[23:04] <dawnson> i hope it works always now
[23:04] <Bashing-om> dawnson: Is that a YAHHH !
[23:05] <dawnson> let me try a reboot :D
[23:05] <dawnson> then we can get excited
[23:06] <dawnson> but first i will isntall the available updates
[23:08] <userme> hello how do u test mtu on linux
[23:10] <bekks> userme: Just take a look at "ifconfig".
[23:10] <userme> the what mate
[23:12] <userme> thanks mate got it
[23:13] <userme> its telling me a number can i test it for correct size
[23:13] <sixunhuit> Got a question, should I just "ask away"?
[23:13] <teward> sixunhuit: yes, just ask
[23:13] <teward> (don't ask to ask)
[23:14] <userme> u can ping a mtu size but not sure how on linux
[23:14] <bekks> userme: "ping a mtu size"?
[23:14] <bekks> That doesnt make sense.
[23:15] <userme> yeah like on windows u can do open a command and type likw google and a size 1472 and says fragmemted or not
[23:16] <jeremy__> Hello
[23:16] <bekks> userme: So you want to produce packets with a specific MTU size?
[23:17] <userme> in my ps4 downloads going slow and i am trying find correct mtu size on it was 1500 before
[23:18] <TJ-> userme: "ping -M [ do | want | dont]" - see "man ping"
[23:18] <bekks> userme: So just use 1500 if you are using a local network.
[23:18] <darthanubis> userme, are you using ppoe as an internet connection?
[23:19] <userme> ive tried from 1472 upto 1500 and like 2 gigs 4hrs
[23:19] <userme> im on fibre optic
[23:19] <bekks> userme: The PS4 has no fibre optic network interface.
[23:19] <darthanubis> then leave it at 1500. MTU is not your issue
[23:20] <darthanubis> ps4 doesnot need a fibre connection
[23:20] <darthanubis> it's plugged into his lan
[23:20] <bekks> So he has a local network and should not change the MTU of 1500.
[23:20] <darthanubis> right
[23:22] <userme> ps4 to fibre router with ethernet.  on ps4 network settings can set mtu, dns, static ips.  as the downloads was going slow on some sites say use correct mtu like 1472, 1492. 1500. so im on my laptop findin mtu on linux
[23:23] <darthanubis> mtu is not your problem
[23:23] <userme> does speed downloads up if u can find what isp using
[23:24] <darthanubis> no one changes from 1500 since about 2000, maybe 1999
[23:24] <darthanubis> but on fibre, that's the least of your concerns
[23:24] <userme> that ifconfig just said 1500
[23:25] <sixunhuit> I switched to ubuntu recently, and I used to trouble shoot my windows quite often, even if no problem was apparent. I would like to do the same thing : keeping an eye on the logs for example. That doable? I tried but figuring out stuff that should be there from stuff that should be investigated is not yet in my skill set.
[23:25] <__Myst__> Man I love vim
[23:25] <psusi> userme, tracepath will probe the path MTU
[23:25] <__Myst__> I just split a string into three columns and made it a list of cha
[23:25] <__Myst__> rs
[23:25] <__Myst__> ('x', 'y', 'z')
[23:25] <__Myst__> In like three commands
[23:26] <dionysus69> I fixed it, I just had to put mount point at / instead of /mnt/UId etc... not my fault disk util changed it itself while I changed different thing :S
[23:26] <__Myst__> s/[plm]/\0\n/g
[23:26] <TJ-> userme: the MTU is set by the encapsulation used ... if the link is encapsulating in PPPoE then 1492 is the usual setting
[23:26] <psusi> darthanubis, gigabit ethernet supports jumbo frames so a larger mtu there is useful at least for local communications
[23:27] <userme> on my old adsl was 1500 now on fibre saying 1492. 1472.
[23:27] <darthanubis> psusi, yeah, but he is worried about non lan connections If I understand him/her
[23:27] <userme> im a him
[23:27] <psusi> userme, your ISP must be using the stupid pppoe protocol, which adds its own 8 byte header
[23:27] <userme> overheads of 28
[23:28] <psusi> i.e. you have to "dial up" with a username and password to establish internet connectivity
[23:28] <TJ-> userme: yeah, baby jumbo frames aka EFC4638 allowed 1508 for the Ethernet frame so that the PPP payload could be a full 1500
[23:28] <darthanubis> "The normal MTU (Maximum Transmit Unit) value for most Ethernet networks is 1500 Bytes, or 1492 Bytes for PPPoE connections. For some ISPs you may need to reduce the MTU ,but this is rarely required, and should not be done unless you are sure it is necessary for your ISP connection."
[23:28] <userme> there is good program tcp optimizer dont work on linux
[23:28] <darthanubis> last used that in 1997
[23:29] <darthanubis> in windows xp
[23:29] <darthanubis> http://www.skyuser.co.uk/forum/sky-broadband-fibre-help/50493-fibre-mtu-size.html
[23:29] <darthanubis> cheers
[23:30] <Nothing_Much> I have a question, when will Audacity 2.1.0 be introduced into Ubuntu?
[23:30] <TJ-> userme: Are you on FTTH or VDSL (FTTC) ?
[23:31] <userme> fttc
[23:31] <TJ-> userme: OK so the modem will be using PPP
[23:31] <psusi> Nothing_Much, possibly in 15.10 assuming someone bothers to package it
[23:31] <Nothing_Much> psusi, Blah
[23:35] <sixunhuit> using : sudo reboot results in black lines (with bits of colors) over the ubuntu logo
[23:35] <intek> list
[23:35] <leafybasil> I'm referencing a shell script in a .desktop file to load DWM with some config before hand, for some reason xmodmap and setxkbmap are not being run/applied, anyone know why?
[23:36] <reisio> leafybasil: from within X?
[23:36] <reisio> might need to use DISPLAY=:0 (etc.)
[23:36] <leafybasil> reisio, sorry can you give a bit more detail and I can look it up?
[23:39] <reisio> leafybasil: try: DISPLAY=$(ps aux | egrep -o 'X :[\.0-9]+' | head -1 | cut -d ' ' -f 2) script
[23:40] <asmodai_> hi I'm having an issue with my wallpaper. each time I switch back on my screen forgets the one I set.
[23:40] <leafybasil> sorry reisio i have no idea what that would mean.
[23:40] <reisio> replace 'script' with your script
[23:41] <jeeves_moss> what is the simplest way to jail a user to their home dir?
[23:41] <ObrienDave> lock 'em up ;P
[23:41] <asmodai_> hehe
[23:41] <reisio> jeeves_moss: to what end
[23:41] <asmodai_> remove permissions for that user
[23:41] <leafybasil> reisio, sorry i missed that, i'll give it a whirl shortly
[23:41] <jeeves_moss> I would say slap 'em
[23:41] <jeeves_moss> reisio,
[23:42] <reisio> jeeves_moss: ...uhyeah?
[23:42] <jeeves_moss> reisio, we have some web programmers who are being difficult and claim they want shell access.  The manager is an idoit push over, so I'm being pushed into giving them access.  The last programmer made a MESS out of the OS, so I need to keep them jailed into their home dir (ie. the web root of the project they're working on).
[23:44] <reisio> how'd he make a mess of the OS without root?
[23:45] <leafybasil> reisio, "ps aux | egrep -o 'X :[\.0-9]+' | head -1 | cut -d ' ' -f 2" on it's own returns nothing
[23:45] <jeeves_moss> reisio, they started to reference OS files in their web code, etc.  lets just say I ended up with this mess dropped on my desk.
[23:46] <reisio> leafybasil: then X probably isn't running
[23:46] <asmodai_> anyone?
[23:46] <reisio> jeeves_moss: so they didn't make a mess of the OS, they just told your boss that they needed more access because no workie blah blah?
[23:46] <reisio> asmodai_: I'm a one
[23:47] <leafybasil> reisio, how comes I can use xsetroot and xset ?
[23:47] <asmodai_> lol you sure?
[23:47] <ObrienDave> i'm not any ;P
[23:47] <reisio> leafybasil: probably because X is running
[23:47] <jeeves_moss> reisio, yea. I know this guy is a lazy joke, so I'm being forced to jump through hoops in order to prove he's full of it so I can fire him
[23:47] <linuxuz3r> hi ho
[23:47] <linuxuz3r> hello
[23:47] <linuxuz3r> Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-version.c: 224: _dl_check_map_versions: Assertion `needed != ((void *)0)' failed!
[23:47] <linuxuz3r> please
[23:48] <linuxuz3r> ive been dealing with so many errors for 2 days now
[23:48] <linuxuz3r> i hope someone can help me
[23:48] <reisio> jeeves_moss: what if he complained about his jail?
[23:48] <jeeves_moss> then I tell him to suck on it.
[23:49] <reisio> couldn't you do that already and save yourself the trouble?
[23:49] <TJ-> linuxuz3r: that looks pretty serious, has the system had bad RAM modules that have caused disk contents to be corrupted?
[23:50] <intek> whats the best way to tell if a harddrive is bad from a live usb
[23:50] <linuxuz3r> no
[23:50] <reisio> intek: try to use it
[23:50] <TJ-> intek: check "/var/log/kern.log" for I/O error reports on the device
[23:50] <reisio> jeeves_moss: apt-cache search jail
[23:50] <intek> it wont allow for install
[23:51] <asmodai_> ahh think i got it. I remember what I did wrong
[23:51] <asmodai_> brb
[23:52] <leafybasil> reisio, you're not making much sense, in the same file, three lines before I can use xsetroot, but I xmodmap does nothing.  Surely X is loaded?
[23:53] <Zack263> are there any free magazine on webdesign or coding in the ubuntu store?
[23:53] <OerHeks> Zack263, no, but there are on fullcirclemagazine
[23:54] <Zack263> oh yes i see it, thanks i'll check it out
[23:54] <reisio> leafybasil: surely
[23:55] <Zack263> i should make a free magazine we need more
[23:55] <Zack263> oh snaps its not free
[23:55] <OerHeks> FCM are all free.
[23:55] <OerHeks> http://fullcirclemagazine.org/downloads/ and http://fullcirclemagazine.org/special-editions/
[23:56] <Zack263> oh.. it says free i was looken at the buy button
[23:57] <reisio> based on this website's code, I'd guess all their information is poor
[23:59] <jeeves_moss> reisio, sorry, system locked up.
[23:59] <linuxuz3r> well it works now
[23:59] <linuxuz3r> xD
[23:59] <reisio> gj