[09:08] <kerik> POVaddct: just a little sidedish...are you into programming? - and can you tell me which apps would be good to code in?
[09:08] <bubuntu> POVaddct,  I am using a laptop connected to the same router. My ubuntu box has a new card with a wire this time. returned the wireless thinking it was the problem. after plugging the new card in i thought it was going to be internet joy again. but no... arg
[09:08] <michup> jrib, problem is that developers leaves that project
[09:08] <POVaddct> kerik: well i only know C and bash programming
[09:08] <michup> jrib, there was big server for magic the gathering like, magic online server for gccg but it stop working for about 2months
[09:08] <kerik> POVaddct: you don't know which one to use for Java?
[09:08] <soundray> Trek^: you're not working towards resolving your problem. That raises the suspicion that you're just here for fun, wasting everybody's time.
[09:08] <michup> now we try to start the new one
[09:08] <BaACkUp> Povaddct yeah !
[09:09] <BaACkUp> !irc
[09:09] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/), irssi (console) (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[09:09] <BaACkUp> i want link to Epic
[09:09] <POVaddct> kerik: sorry, no java recommendations from me
[09:09] <BaACkUp> !epic
[09:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about epic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:09] <kerik> POVaddct: I was recommended Eclipse, but don't know if that is any good....and further more...don't know how to uninstall it if I deside not to use it..
[09:09] <POVaddct> kerik: i simply don't use it
[09:09] <michup> jrib, it works like this there is big factor-server and its working, meta-servere are connecting to him and works like rooms for chat etc, and there are little servers which are tables where ppl can sit and play
[09:09] <kerik> POVaddct: :)
[09:10] <michup> now factory-server and connected to him meta-server are working
[09:10] <bubuntu> POVaddct, it's wired. i don't understand why it isn't working anymore.
[09:10] <POVaddct> bubuntu: so your laptop can get on the net and your ubuntu box cannot?
[09:10] <jrib> michup: I see, I would try to compile it if you have no other ideas
[09:10] <bubuntu> POVaddct, yes.
[09:10] <POVaddct> bubuntu: so it has worked before?
[09:10] <michup> now i try to connect table mtg-server to the meta-server
[09:10] <POVaddct> bubuntu: with the same card?
[09:10] <bubuntu> POVaddct, it has... with the wireless card.
[09:10] <kerik> POVaddct: but can you tell me how to uninstall if I deside to not use it?
[09:10] <Trek^> soundray: that's why im here on this channel because i need help. im a novice. good for you. you're an expert already
[09:10] <casso> uu
[09:10] <kerik> POVaddct: cause that I have never tried...
[09:10] <bubuntu> POVaddct, it has never worked with this new one.
[09:10] <gils> anyone here use bcrypt for file encryption?
[09:11] <POVaddct> kerik: unstall what?
[09:11] <alchemikaz> I can only open web pages if I write ip adress, so there's something wrong with dns, but if I ping i.e. www.google.com and then try to open it, everything is ok, so what is wrong?
[09:11] <kerik> POVaddct: well...actually just applications in general...I have never tried, so have never figured out how to do so...
[09:11] <zanexx297> hello, how do i open synaptic package manager?
[09:11] <POVaddct> bubuntu: does the card appear as eth0?
[09:11] <offspring> What's the code snippet that turns on the desktop?
[09:12] <cvk77> zanexx297: System /Administration / Package Manager
[09:12] <bubuntu> POVaddct, yes it does. and it can ping the <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:12] <soundray> Trek^: I tried to help you, but you didn't answer my questions.
[09:12] <michup> jrib, if you are interesting magic card game you can simple install it using this manual http://gccg.sourceforge.net and log in to the meta-server ill give you IP
[09:12] <BaACkUp> which is best irc client for linux
[09:12] <POVaddct> kerik: on the command line: sudo apt-get remove packagename
[09:12] <NickGarvey> Trek^: sarcasm isn't the best way to get help :\
[09:12] <chexay> i like irssi
[09:12] <zanexx297> thanks i looked right over it
[09:12] <gr3ml1n> BaACkUp: irssi
[09:12] <gr3ml1n> ^_^
[09:12] <cvk77> !info xchat | BaACkUp
[09:12] <ubotu> baackup: xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.6-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 275 kB, installed size 760 kB
[09:12] <bubuntu> POVaddct, it detects the card. eth0 and even knows its d-link
[09:12] <Pici> !best | BaACkUp
[09:12] <ubotu> BaACkUp: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[09:12] <POVaddct> kerik: or use the graphical package manager (synaptic)
[09:12] <michup> jrib, meta-server ip is : <IP_ADDRESS> at port 29100
[09:12] <NickGarvey> BaACkUp: matter of preference, some people like xchat, some like gaim, some like irssi, try em all to see what you like
[09:12] <jrib> michup: thanks, but I am not that interested in the game.  I hope you get it to work though
[09:12] <kerik> POVaddct: it's that simple????
[09:13] <kerik> POVaddct: you are a friend in need...thanks again...*thanks and bows*
[09:13] <POVaddct> kerik: you mean synaptic?
[09:13] <Trek^> NickGarvey: Are you judging me?
[09:13] <BaACkUp> gaim has problems.. it just tries to connet on 6667 port... and my irc just works on port 6666 so gaim cancel
[09:13] <michup> when i try to run table : ./Server --server <IP_ADDRESS> --bet 0 --players 2 mtg
[09:13] <cvk77> NickGarvey: i even heard of people who prefer konversation ;)
[09:13] <NickGarvey> cvk77: treason!
[09:13] <kerik> POVaddct: no the command line...seems so simple :)
[09:13] <NickGarvey> Trek^: no, just giving you advice :)
[09:13] <POVaddct> kerik: ah okay :)) commmand line rocks
[09:13] <tommytom> Pici: !best | BaACkUp <<-- lol i love that
[09:13] <NickGarvey> Trek^: take it or leave it :)
[09:14] <POVaddct> bubuntu: can you try this:   sudo tcpdump -ni eth0
[09:14] <BaACkUp> !irc
[09:14] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/), irssi (console) (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[09:14] <POVaddct> bubuntu: and make some traffic from the notebook
[09:14] <gils> bcrypt encryption tool!! anyone use this before? i got some issues i need help with
[09:14] <kerik> POVaddct: sure does
[09:14] <offspring> What's the code snippet that turns on the desktop?
[09:14] <n00t2> !mdadm
[09:14] <reydelsillon> how is the comand to edit in terminal? $kadesu kate /file ???
[09:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mdadm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:14] <zanexx297> how do i run an exe?
[09:14] <michup> options are --server which means its a table not meta-server next is --bet means how much money is to won --players and mtg which means its a table for magic
[09:14] <POVaddct> bubuntu: then you should see some packet dumps in the output of tcpdump
[09:14] <michup> and ive error
[09:14] <Trek^> NickGarvey: I dont think so your giving an advice
[09:14] <n00t2> anyone have any experience with mdadm
[09:14] <kerik> POVaddct: guess it's just to get going and install :)
[09:14] <cvk77> offspring: "turns on the desktop"?
[09:15] <TATARIN>
[09:15] <NickGarvey> Trek^: that wasn't a sentence
[09:15] <michup> Running ./ccg_server  --server <IP_ADDRESS> --bet 0 --players 2 --load server.triggers mtg.xml (Server script PID 30903)
[09:15] <michup> ./ccg_server: ./lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.4' not found (required by /usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0)
[09:15] <TATARIN>   ???
[09:15] <cvk77> zanexx297: nota t all. there are no EXEs on linux
[09:15] <offspring> I install the server version, it's command line.
[09:15] <POVaddct> argh, information overflow :]
[09:15] <Pici> !english | TATARIN
[09:15] <ubotu> TATARIN: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[09:15] <TATARIN>     ?????
[09:15] <ondobondo> hi everyone, how do I output (nicely) TOP into a file? I've tried top > some file and the result is quite messy. thx
[09:15] <offspring> Command line beat me, so I installed the desktop but it's not triggering
[09:15] <TATARIN> Pici
[09:15] <reydelsillon> how is the comand to edit in terminal? $kadesu kate /file ???
[09:15] <kerik> POVaddct: does it remove everything when using the remove, or is it as bad as the windows similarity?
[09:15] <Pici> zanexx297: You'd have to run it using Wine.
[09:15] <TATARIN> ZDEC` KTONIT` GOVARIT PO RUCKI?????
[09:15] <soundray> offspring: try 'sudo invoke gdm start'
[09:15] <kerik> POVaddct: yeah you must feel flooded :)
[09:15] <soundray> offspring: try 'sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start'
[09:15] <TATARIN> ZDEC` KTONIT` GOVARIT PO RUCKI?????
[09:15] <cvk77> !suaheli | TATARIN
[09:15] <soundray> sry
[09:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about suaheli - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:16] <TATARIN> cvk77 CHE OPYAT`??
[09:16] <bubuntu> POVaddct, wait restarting... i was running dyne:bolic on livecd no internet with that either... another distribution no internet still
[09:16] <NickGarvey> cvk77: do you know whatl anguage that is?
[09:16] <TATARIN> YA VASHE NE VTIKAU CHTO TI PISHESH
[09:16] <michup> Server returned error, sleeping for a moment
[09:16] <michup> sleep: relocation error: ./lib/libc.so.6: symbol _dl_out_of_memory, version GLIBC_PRIVATE not defined in file ld-linux.so.2 with link time reference
[09:16] <soundray> jrib: please do something about tatarin
[09:16] <cvk77> NickGarvey: i haven't got the slightest idea
[09:16] <POVaddct> kerik: apt-get remove also removes packages depending on the removed package
[09:16] <NickGarvey> cvk77: looks like meaning less spam at first glance..
[09:16] <jrib> !ru | TATARIN
[09:16] <ubotu> TATARIN:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[09:16] <POVaddct> kerik: and you can also try deborphan. that shows you unused libraries.
[09:16] <TATARIN> ubotu YA VAC NE PANIMAU
[09:16] <kerik> POVaddct: cool
[09:16] <offspring> soundray, my system didn't like the command "envoke"
[09:16] <cvk77> jrib: probalby ain't russian
[09:16] <TATARIN> GOVARI PO RUCKI
[09:17] <Saimon>
[09:17] <NickGarvey> cvk77: yeah its certainly not
[09:17] <soundray> offspring: try 'sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start'
[09:17] <Saimon>
[09:17] <TATARIN> HAH
[09:17] <alchemikaz> I can only open web pages if I write ip adress, so there's something wrong with dns, but if I ping i.e. www.google.com and then try to open it, everything is ok, so what is wrong?
[09:17] <kerik> POVaddct: that's a program?
[09:17] <cvk77> NickGarvey: it's a language that makes me wanna *plonk* him
[09:17] <Saimon> -
[09:17] <POVaddct> kerik: deborphan? yes
[09:17] <cvk77> jrib: thanks ;)
[09:17] <soundray> Thanks jrib
[09:17] <kerik> POVaddct: :) will try to install that one :)
[09:17] <reydelsillon> how is the comand to edit in terminal? $kadesu kate /file ???
[09:17] <eifzon> how can i change my graphic card size?
[09:18] <rsk> eifzon in xorg.conf
[09:18] <cvk77> eifzon: err... what?
[09:18] <n00t2> uhhh, resolution?
[09:18] <bubuntu> POVaddct, warning no ipv4 assigned
[09:18] <stork> eifzon, wtf?
[09:18] <michup> jrib, so how you can see its claims for glibc 2.4 dunno why
[09:18] <POVaddct> bubuntu: then you didnt get any dhcp lease
[09:18] <eifzon> kk rsk
[09:18] <kerik> POVaddct: hmm...doesn't seem to be found in apt-get?
[09:18] <bubuntu> POVaddct, what do you mean?
[09:18] <offspring> soundray, "/etc/init-d/gdm not found"  Something didn't get installed?
[09:18] <michup> jrib, and i have libc6-dev installed
[09:18] <Death_Sargent> ok my laptop acpi is all out of wack
[09:18] <kerik> POVaddct: no installation candidat...
[09:18] <Pici> offspring: /etc/init.d/gdm
[09:18] <n00t2> is there a server support only channel?
[09:19] <LjL> n00t2: no
[09:19] <eifzon> how can you JUST edit the graphic rsk? like "sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver xorg
[09:19] <POVaddct> kerik, bubuntu: sorry, i can only handle one of you
[09:19] <Death_Sargent> how about laptop support
[09:19] <bubuntu> POVaddct, lease? verbose output suppressed
[09:19] <soundray> offspring: re-run 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' until it says "No packages updated/installed" or similar
[09:19] <Death_Sargent> !chanels
[09:19] <offspring> ahhh.
[09:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chanels - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:19] <LjL> !irc
[09:19] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/), irssi (console) (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[09:19] <offspring> it did say something didh't download.
[09:19] <jrib> michup: it's actually just libc6 that lets you use it, libc6-dev is if you want to compile with glibc.  I don't know why your program does not work, my only suggestion is for you to try to compile it yourself
[09:19] <POVaddct> bubuntu: you know what a dhcp lease is?
[09:19] <offspring> thanks.
[09:19] <Death_Sargent> !channels
[09:19] <ubotu> A list of Freenode channels is available via http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - Ubuntu related channels can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[09:19] <kerik> POVaddct: think it's bubuntu's turn :)
[09:19] <POVaddct> !easyubuntu | kerik
[09:19] <ubotu> kerik: easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[09:19] <bubuntu> POVaddct, no...
[09:20] <michup> jrib, okay ill try thx
[09:20] <offspring> Thanks.
[09:20] <POVaddct> kerik: no, forget that link
[09:20] <babo> either I don't have a root password or my root password isn't what I think it is ...
[09:20] <POVaddct> kerik: google for source-o-matic
[09:20] <babo> what can I do ?
[09:20] <bubuntu> POVaddct, no... i have a vague idea what dhcp is.
[09:20] <Popoi> amr codec seems to be present in my ffmpeg instalation (If I use $ ffmpeg -formats .. its show it).. but when I try to convert a file using this codec I can't do it, It says the codec is missing. how can I enable it?
[09:20] <jrib> babo: did you ever explicitly create a root password?
[09:20] <offspring> Thanks soundray
[09:20] <soundray> !root > babo, please read ubotu's private message
[09:20] <POVaddct> bubuntu: if you dont ever know network basics it will be hard
[09:20] <bubuntu> POVaddct, so do you know what's wrong with the machine now?
[09:21] <ondobondo> how do I output the top command into a file ?
[09:21] <babo> soundray: right. thanks I'm aware of what sudo is. I'd like to go to root though ...
[09:21] <alanhaggai> top > filename
[09:21] <POVaddct> bubuntu: no, the information is much too vague
[09:21] <alanhaggai> top | tee filename
[09:21] <alanhaggai> Any will do.
[09:21] <Pici> ondobondo: try `top > filename`
[09:21] <POVaddct> bubuntu: only thing i know is that the eth0 interface does not get a ip address from the dhcp server
[09:21] <bubuntu> POVaddct,  listening to eth0 capture size 96 bytes...
[09:21] <warior> when i tried to play avi in toten it writes out Internal data flow error.
[09:22] <tommytom> bubuntu: DHCP = basically random ips in a set range determined by your router. Lease = the current ip "assigned" to you. lease is used when that ip expires. sorta like "rent" the ip
[09:22] <ondobondo> I've tried top>file name and is a mess... I'll try top | tee filename
[09:22] <POVaddct> bubuntu: yeah, but is there more than this message?
[09:22] <ondobondo> thx
[09:22] <alanhaggai> No problem :)
[09:22] <bubuntu> POVaddct,  no return to prompt
[09:22] <reydelsillon> how is the comand to edit in terminal? $kadesu kate /file ???
[09:22] <bubuntu> POVaddct,  can you tell me more commands to ba able to answer and get more specific...
[09:23] <bubuntu> POVaddct,  do you think its possibly a hardware thing?
[09:23] <dac> is it possible to delete email address trail and then forward to others?
[09:23] <POVaddct> bubuntu: which system do you run now?
[09:23] <POVaddct> bubuntu: maybe it is a hardware thing
[09:23] <jrib> !offtopic | dac
[09:23] <ubotu> dac: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:23] <bubuntu> POVaddct,  which system?
[09:24] <POVaddct> bubuntu: the system you run at the moment on the box which does not get on the net
[09:24] <bubuntu> POVaddct,  i could put it into another slot? maybe the slot is broken?
[09:24] <dac> ok,sorry
[09:24] <tommytom> bubuntu: im no linux expert but either DHCP isnt setup correctly on your PC or something isnt set with your router
[09:24] <bubuntu> POVaddct,  now it's ubuntu...
[09:24] <POVaddct> bubuntu: how should i know? its your machine
[09:24] <bubuntu> POVaddct,  now it's ubuntu the old one. haven't been able to upgrade...
[09:25] <tommytom> bubuntu: you dont really NEED dhcp. as logn as you set the ip/subnet/gateway/dns correctly to an ip cupported by the router and point dns/gateway to the router
[09:25] <eifzon> how can i just edit my resulition?
[09:25] <POVaddct> bubuntu: okay. do this:  ip a    do you see more that one eth-interface in the output?
[09:26] <offspring> I have the desktop.iso,  can I use that to install the desktop? How do I access from the command line?
[09:26] <bubuntu> POVaddct, eth-interface in the output ? what am i looking for here?
[09:27] <tommytom> offspring: that made no sense. can you revise that?
[09:27] <kneeki> Hmm, while using Shared Folders to share a folder on my Ubuntu machine w/ my Windows, I get this error (in windows) while trying to map the drive. 'The mapped network drive could not be created because the following error has occured: An extended error has occured.' Any ideas?
[09:27] <big_bang14> i need to edit some file in a windows brief case that are on my usb flash drive, i need to do this for school, is there any program that will do this using the same brief case as windows?
[09:27] <kneeki> Ugh, nevermind. It was a windows bug *shakes fist*
[09:28] <bubuntu> tommytom, router is working fine. i'm using it right now... DHCP setup? how to do this? I am using dhcp now on this machine... don't know why ubuntu machine won't get dhcp lease
[09:28] <Ashbringer> hey, anyone know what time feisty goes stable?
[09:28] <POVaddct> bubuntu: you can read, can't you? its obvious where eth0 is
[09:28] <LjL> Ashbringer: april 19, probably
[09:28] <RichiH> Ashbringer: afaik that will tomorrow
[09:28] <Ashbringer> LjL: yeah, but what time
[09:28] <RichiH> heh
[09:28] <PriceChild> Ashbringer, when its ready
[09:28] <zanexx297> is there a way to dial a pppoe conection on ubuntu?
[09:28] <YetiChick> Ashbringer:  Anxious, are we?  :)
[09:28] <LjL> Ashbringer: i think two microseconds after the third half of the seventh second after 3:45 am
[09:29] <Ashbringer> PriceChild: I've been testing it since alpha and now that its beta its my prime OS, I just want to know how many hours
[09:29] <POVaddct> zanexx297: yes. use pppoeconf to set it up
[09:29] <bubuntu> POVaddct,  Are we talking about System > Administration > Networking > Eth0 ?
[09:29] <Pelo> zanexx297,  isn'T a ppp0e a dsl protocol ?
[09:29] <offspring> sure. I installed the server version, it's command line. I want to install the desktop. I don't have a network connection right now, so I want to see if I can finish the desktop install from the desktop.iso.
[09:29] <warior> when i tried to play avi in toten it writes out Internal data flow error.
[09:29] <PriceChild> RichiH, we can neither confirm nor deny that ;)
[09:29] <big_bang14> i need to edit some file in a windows brief case that are on my usb flash drive, i need to do this for school, is there any program that will do this using the same brief case as windows?
[09:29] <CapaH> Does anyone here use a Radeon X800 (or similar) Graphics card, with dual monitors? Anyone?
[09:29] <zanexx297> POV where do i find pppoeconf?
[09:29] <RichiH> PriceChild: yah, if i really wanted to know, i would beat it out of jenda_ or someone ;)
[09:29] <POVaddct> bubuntu: no i am talking about typing in  "ip a"  in a terminal window. sorry, i thought you were familiar with the command line
[09:29] <zanexx297> im new to linux
[09:30] <crackintosh> is there an ubuntuserver channel?
[09:30] <POVaddct> zanexx297: no gui program, use a terminal window
[09:30] <bubuntu> POVaddct,  Oh. I typed it in nothing happened. But I don't have a prompt.
[09:30] <PriceChild> RichiH, haha
[09:30] <Pelo> big_bang14,   a windows breifcase it just a folder setup to syncronse with a local folder,  but you can access it on any compter as a normal folder
[09:30] <zanexx297> can you private me the commands POV?
[09:30] <RichiH> PriceChild: having slaves^Wstaff in all major distros is a plus
[09:30] <POVaddct> bubuntu: where did you type it?
[09:30] <bubuntu> POVaddct,  How to get back from prompt from previous command?
[09:31] <Pelo> big_bang14,  assuming it isnT' encrypted
[09:31] <POVaddct> zanexx297: no, i have too many conversations here
[09:31] <gils> hi...how is everyone......does anyone know the usage of bcrypt!!?
[09:31] <tommytom> offspring: ermmm... dunno about that. i would say apt-get gnome or something but you dont have net. you could always do it manually but thats messy. ill leave that to someone that didnt install linux just yesterday
[09:31] <POVaddct> bubuntu: just press the cursor up key
[09:31] <bubuntu> POVaddct,  Still in the previous tcpdump command.
[09:31] <zanexx297> do you know where i can find them on the net?
[09:31] <POVaddct> bubuntu: oh i see. press  ctrl-c
[09:32] <bubuntu> POVaddct,  10 packets captured 20 packets recieved by filter 0 packets dropped by kernel. thanks. ctrl -c nifty.
[09:32] <Pelo> zanexx297,  are you trying to setup a dial up connection or a dsl one ?
[09:32] <JacktheHomeless> Anyone wanna give me a hand getting Ktorrent 2.1.3 running in ubuntu edgy?
[09:33] <verb3k> PriceChild: sorry for my stream of questions ...but I need to know if I can burn a CD ISO on a DVD ....will it work and boot normally? Thanks in advance
[09:33] <crackintosh> my keyboard is all screwed up in terminal, when I press delete I get a tilde. and when I press left I get the letter C. How do I go about changing the key mappings?
[09:33] <kerik> POVaddct: POVaddct hmmm...after updating sources.list I still seem to be unable to find the deborphan..
[09:33] <Pelo> JacktheHomeless,  intsll if from the repos it should work out of the box
[09:33] <offspring> I installed server. I find I need a GUI interface. I've mostly installed the desktop but I missed something. I burned a desktop.iso, but something was wonky.  It kept booting off the cd, so I saw the desktop but it wasn't installing on my ccomputer.
[09:33] <tommytom> !Ktorrent | JacktheHomeless
[09:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ktorrent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:33] <zanexx297> its wireless that requires a username and password.
[09:33] <POVaddct> kerik: you must run apt-get update first
[09:33] <PriceChild> verb3k, haven't a clue, doubt it. Get the dvd image
[09:33] <Pelo> crackintosh,  gnome-terminal ? check the menus
[09:33] <kerik> POVaddct: DOH! - of course I must! :p
[09:33] <verb3k> PriceChild: it's huge :) 4G+
[09:33] <JacktheHomeless> Pelo: it does, but the version in the repo's is out of date. One of the trackers I use requires me to have at least version 2.
[09:34] <tommytom> crackintosh: you have the wrong keyboard layout
[09:34] <PriceChild> verb3k, but it includes the entire main and universe
[09:34] <POVaddct> kerik: i hope you grabbed the correct sources.list  (dapper)  you run dapper, right?
[09:34] <bubuntu> POVaddct, okay should i copy all information on eth0 here?
[09:34] <zanexx297> you could classify it as dial up , but it doesnt dial a modem
[09:34] <Stoffer> can someone please point me to a good tutorial on dual booting windows & ubuntu?  I've already have windows installed, and about 220GB of unformatted space left over.
[09:34] <POVaddct> bubuntu: no, dont paste multiple lines here
[09:34] <kerik> POVaddct: yeah I did see that one...
[09:34] <BaACkUp> hmm
[09:34] <POVaddct> bubuntu: you pastebin
[09:34] <kbrooks_> Stoffer, 220 gb is amazing
[09:34] <POVaddct> !pastebin | bubuntu
[09:34] <BaACkUp> kick a few users.. too much lag man !
[09:34] <ubotu> bubuntu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel.  Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[09:36] <Stoffer> wtf
[09:36] <LjL> !traffic
[09:36] <PriceChild> !traffic
[09:36] <LjL> NOTICE - The channel is temporarily moderated, sorry for the inconvenience. Please keep talking, your messages will be relayed.
[09:36] <Pelo> zanexx297,  please type the nick of the personn you are talking to , it helps us notice you,   to set up a dsl connection open the terminal , type sudo pppoeconf and  follow instructions
[09:36] <RichiH> i klined them all
[09:36] <LjL> RichiH: thanks
[09:36] <RichiH> np
[09:37] <kerik> POVaddct: thanks anyway :) -  I could easily have missed it :)
[09:37] <zanexx297> Pelo sorry and thanks
[09:37] <bubuntu> POVaddct, i see three lo, eth0 and sit0
[09:37] <eifzon> what is commando do configure x0rg?
[09:37] <kbrooks>  /msg MemoServ LIST
[09:37] <kbrooks> er
[09:37] <POVaddct> bubuntu: so only one eth interface
[09:37] <Pelo> eifzon,   sudo dpck-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:37] <bubuntu> POVaddct, yes. seems like it.
[09:37] <POVaddct> bubuntu: is it's like type "link/ether"?
[09:38] <JacktheHomeless> eifzon:  its dpkg not dpcg
[09:38] <Death_Sargent> im on a toshiba laptop and my acpi does not work for shit with ubuntu
[09:38] <Death_Sargent> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16300/ is my dmesg
[09:38] <richiefrich> Death_Sargent: it might be foobared
[09:38] <POVaddct> Death_Sargent: acpi _is_ shit
[09:38] <bubuntu> POVaddct, link/ether yes
[09:38] <PriceChild> !ohmy
[09:38] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:38] <richiefrich> Death_Sargent: did you try to fix it
[09:38] <POVaddct> bubuntu: okay
[09:38] <Death_Sargent> anyone have links
[09:38] <Pelo> Death_Sargent,  check the forum for your model,  I bet there is a fix in there
[09:39] <Death_Sargent> that's what im doing now
[09:39] <Death_Sargent> the first one
[09:39] <Stoffer> here's another question:  when I tried to setup wireless networking from the livecd, I think I set it up correctly w/ the network manager but I still had no connection.  Is there something else I need to do besides enabling it and setting it up for it to connect?
[09:39] <POVaddct> PriceChild: i think its much more important to keep the channel botnet-free
[09:39] <PriceChild> POVaddct, please watch your language
[09:39] <Pelo> later folks
[09:39] <xavickson> Hey guys, how many hours are left for the release of Ubuntu 7.04 (I need to know because I'm in a diferent timezone...) ?
[09:39] <POVaddct> PriceChild: the silly language police thing annoys me
[09:40] <bokey> xavickson: I am waiting too
[09:40] <jrib> xavickson: there is no set hour
[09:40] <Stoffer> ubuntu 7 is coming out today?
[09:40] <richiefrich> Death_Sargent: whats your lappy ?
[09:40] <richiefrich> Death_Sargent:  toshiba what ?
[09:40] <Stoffer> I guess I should wait for that instead of installing 6.1
[09:40] <mc44> POVaddct: and swearing annoys lots of other people. c'est la vie
[09:40] <piksi> "today" is a quite
[09:40] <nrl> I have a problem after installing ubuntu that my bios won't load grub up but grub seems to be installed correctly as if I put in the install CD and choose boot from first HDD it works. grub worked fine with debian unstable wich was installed previously. any ideas?
[09:41] <bubuntu> POVaddct,now what?
[09:41] <xavickson> bokey, jrib: so when did they start saying that "it's going to be released tomorow" ? When is tomorow ?
[09:41] <Wikzo> Which site do you think is the best to find a torrent and download 7.04?
[09:41] <mc44> xavickson: the 19th
[09:41] <jrib> xavickson: it means "when it is ready"
[09:41] <kerik> POVaddct: hehe....I forgot...what was deborphan for?
[09:41] <Stoffer> oh boo! tomorrow for 7?  Should I wait or install 6.1 today??
[09:41] <bokey> !feisty | xavickson
[09:41] <ubotu> xavickson: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[09:41] <mc44> jrib: any chance of changing the topic to reflect that :)
[09:41] <POVaddct> bubuntu: sudo killall dhclient ; sudo killall dhclient3 ; sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[09:41] <arkivist> I want to get some control over the names that my USB flash drive as they appear in /media.
[09:41] <PriceChild> Stoffer, I'd wait ;)
[09:41] <piksi> Stoffer: what's the hurry? you can always dist-upgrade
[09:41] <Lbawinowns> Anyone ever got an engine game working on eboard, or can anyone recommend other chess interface?
[09:42] <arkivist> Can someone point me to docs for this config?
[09:42] <richiefrich> Death_Sargent: install  iasl  and then do ->  sudo cat /proc/acpi/dsdt > dsdt.dat && sudo iasl -d dsdt.dat && iasl -tc dsdt.dsl
[09:42] <xavickson> !schedule
[09:42] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[09:42] <YetiChick> nrl: If the boot order has been changed in your BIOS, you might need to modify your grub files by hand after a fresh install.
[09:42] <thoreauputic> arkivist: google " writing udev rules"
[09:42] <POVaddct> kerik: deborphan lists library packages that are not referenced by other packages (so they can probably be removed)
[09:42] <Waaaaahbulance> hi
[09:42] <Stoffer> piksi: so it's no big deal upgrading tomorrow if I install 6.1 today?  I have very limited time to play w/ stuff like this
[09:42] <WaxyFresh> POVaddct, its for finding unused files,its pointless in fiesty its been repleced by sudo apt-get autoremove
[09:42] <kerik> POVaddct: so I can actually remove them from in there?
[09:43] <piksi> Stoffer: well then you should propably wait till tomorrow, it's not that long
[09:43] <POVaddct> kerik: there is also   apt-get get autoremove   which does nearly the same
[09:43] <kerik> POVaddct: or is it just for finding it..?
[09:43] <POVaddct> WaxyFresh: yeah, i was just about to say that .)
[09:43] <arkivist> thoreauputic: thanks, that's the stuff.
[09:43] <piksi> Stoffer: no, dist-upgrading is not a big deal but if you wait ~24hrs you'll save even that effort
[09:43] <kerik> POVaddct: whats the difference of autoremove and remove?
[09:43] <POVaddct> kerik: deborphan is just for finding
[09:43] <bubuntu> POVaddct,  first command no dhclient no process killed
[09:43] <kerik> POVaddct: ok :)
[09:43] <Death_Sargent> forums are useless
[09:43] <POVaddct> kerik: remove expects a package name
[09:43] <zanexx297> POV how do i log on as a root user?
[09:43] <Death_Sargent> please help
[09:44] <POVaddct> kerik: autoremove doesn't
[09:44] <richiefrich> Death_Sargent: install  iasl  and then do ->  sudo cat /proc/acpi/dsdt > dsdt.dat && sudo iasl -d dsdt.dat && iasl -tc dsdt.dsl
[09:44] <JacktheHomeless> Ok im getting errors with Ktorrent, anyone wanna help me sort these out?
[09:44] <POVaddct> zanexx297: sudo -s
[09:44] <POVaddct> bubuntu: okay
[09:44] <bubuntu> POVaddct,  second command return to prompt
[09:44] <thoreauputic> !root | zanexx297
[09:44] <richiefrich> Death_Sargent: you dont pay attention it seems
[09:44] <POVaddct> bubuntu: now do:   sudo tcpdump -ni eth0   again
[09:44] <kerik> POVaddct: but how does it remove without packagename?...
[09:44] <POVaddct> bubuntu: and let it run for a while
[09:44] <thoreauputic> did ubotu take a holiday ?
[09:44] <bubuntu> POVaddct,  third command return to prompt
[09:44] <stefg> Stoffer: /j #ubuntu+1 see the link in /topic there, get a release candidate CD and install that. Tha would the least work intensive way (given that you do not suffer from too many feisty bugs :-) )
[09:45] <zanexx297> POV thanks
[09:45] <POVaddct> kerik: apt-get autoremove   removes unused lib packages
[09:45] <bubuntu> POVaddct, eth0 no ipv4 address assigned
[09:45] <kerik> POVaddct: now I got it.. :)
[09:45] <POVaddct> kerik: good .)
[09:45] <POVaddct> bubuntu: thats okay
[09:46] <POVaddct> bubuntu: but leave it running
[09:46] <kerik> POVaddct: and now I will let you serve all the other guys ;) - and thanks once again
[09:46] <JacktheHomeless> Ktorrent keeps crashing and I'm getting errors in terminal. Anyone care to help me sort this out?
[09:46] <POVaddct> kerik: mange hilsner fra tyskland :]
[09:46] <Death_Sargent> richiefrich: I get this in turn http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16303/
[09:46] <kerik> POVaddct: sejt du kan lidt dansk ;)
[09:47] <Death_Sargent>  richiefrich: sorry I was searching the forums
[09:47] <Popoi> Feisty Fawn will be released at 12am?
[09:47] <PriceChild> Popoi, when its finished
[09:47] <kerik> POVaddct: and even with the right "syntax" - nice to see
[09:47] <richiefrich> Death_Sargent: np
[09:47] <POVaddct> kerik: jeg har vrt til danmark ti timer
[09:47] <nrl> YetiChick: which grub files? I'm not sure I know what you mean. anyway the configuration seems to be correct as if I get the CD to invoke grub on my HDD it works
[09:47] <mc44> PriceChild: "ready" not "finished" :p
[09:47] <PriceChild> pfft
[09:47] <Popoi> PriceChild: Oh, then It will be at any hour tomorrow
[09:47] <richiefrich> Death_Sargent: let me give you a page .. http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Fix_Common_ACPI_Problems  .. YES its gentoo wiki but follow it
[09:48] <richiefrich> Death_Sargent: :D
[09:48] <mc44> PriceChild: itll never be finished :p
[09:48] <Death_Sargent> richiefrich: you know I had getno once
[09:48] <movieman> Hi all.
[09:48] <WaxyFresh> is there anyway to make my desktop background a terminai?
[09:48] <Death_Sargent> loved it short of the crappy install speed
[09:48] <WaxyFresh> terminal^^
[09:48] <POVaddct> bubuntu: did you already see some packages in the tcpdump output?
[09:48] <kerik> POVaddct: you've been in denmark 10 times or for ten hours?
[09:49] <POVaddct> kerik: 10 times i guess
[09:49] <richiefrich> Death_Sargent: ooh, nope i didnt nkow
[09:49] <POVaddct> kerik: or 8
[09:49] <YetiChick> nrl:  Do you even get a grub screen when you boot?
[09:49] <movieman> i have a server running ubuntu 6.06 but the language is in french does any1 have the command line option to reconfigure it so i can change it to english please.
[09:49] <richiefrich> Death_Sargent: im still on it im just bored
[09:49] <nrl> YetiChick: nope
[09:49] <kerik> POVaddct: oh :) cause if only for 10 hours that's pretty darn good work on the grammar
[09:49] <Stoffer> stefg: thanks for the advice, but I may do 6.1 because I already have the disk, and burning another would require downloading software...which would take until tomorrow anyway
[09:49] <POVaddct> kerik: hehe
[09:49] <BaACkUp> !ping me
[09:49] <Paul_UK> !ping me fiesty :P
[09:49] <richiefrich> Death_Sargent: and #gentoo is dead .. so i thought i can help here :D
[09:49] <bubuntu> POVaddct, still waiting... eth0 listening
[09:50] <POVaddct> bubuntu: what are you running on the notebook? windows?
[09:50] <ks> can I have ubuntu as small as possible ?
[09:50] <bubuntu> POVaddct,  Knoppix LiveCD. FreeBSD on the hard disk.
[09:50] <Popoi> nooo, dont tell "win***" here :O
[09:50] <ks> currently it is 4.4Gb
[09:50] <kerik> POVaddct: I guess I will go somewhere quiet :).. see you around
[09:51] <YetiChick> nrl:  Hm.  Are you sure you wrote grub to the MBR of the boot drive?
[09:51] <POVaddct> kerik: cu!
[09:51] <POVaddct> bubuntu: can you ping from knoppix to the router?
[09:51] <richiefrich> Death_Sargent: the way i read it.. you should   edit dsdt.dsl  and recompile it
[09:51] <YetiChick> nrl:  How many hard drives are in the machine?
[09:51] <kerik> POVaddct: oh one last thing...do you know a nice torrent app?
[09:51] <POVaddct> kerik: erm, dunno sorry
[09:52] <nrl> YetiChick: when you boot up the cd you can choose boot from first hdd which then gives me grub and boots, I presume it is getting grub from my mbr and not just guessing the config. I have one hdd, this is a laptop
[09:52] <POVaddct> kerik: i always visit friends with my notebook to share files :)
[09:52] <LjL> !torrent > kerik    (kerik, see the private message from Ubotu)
[09:52] <kerik> POVaddct: :) good plan :)
[09:52] <Paul_UK> does anyone know a better rdp client than rdesktop?
[09:52] <my_haz> where are are the deb files stored when you do an LTS update?
[09:52] <richiefrich> Death_Sargent: i really hope this helps you out ;)  cause i dont like  acpi  but on a lappy you kinda need it
[09:52] <bubuntu> POVaddct, Yep it pings from here
[09:53] <jlist> hi all, i have a question - from command line, is there a way to tell that i'm on ubuntu, and not other distros like redhat, suse, etc.?
[09:53] <nrl> YetiChick: I have tried reinstalling both with grub-install and using root then setup in grub which both report to work but don't change the situation
[09:53] <kerik> LjL: sorry what msg?
[09:53] <ardchoille> jlist: lsb_release -a
[09:53] <stefg> Stoffer: i you are going to upgrade tomorrow, you'll d/l another 6-700 MB anyway, not as CD, but as upgrade packs
[09:53] <POVaddct> bubuntu: and can you see some packets in the tcpdump output now? some arp who-has for example?
[09:53] <LjL> kerik: the one that didn't come. the bot is being very laggy, hold on a little while and you'll get the message (hopefully)... sorry
[09:53] <noelferreira> hi people. the  version 7.04 of ubuntu is already released?
[09:53] <roryy> my_haz: apt puts downloaded debs in /var/cache/apt/archives
[09:53] <LjL> noelferreira: no
[09:53] <baggito> hi. i have a lucida typewriter font, but i don't know where it came from. i want to install it on a new install... anyone have any clues on this?
[09:54] <noelferreira> when it will be LjL?
[09:54] <Paul_UK> noelferreira: no and what a shame! :(
[09:54] <my_haz> roryy: thanks
[09:54] <LjL> noelferreira: sometime
[09:54] <pyr0000> hello i have a problem. i installed ubuntu on my other laptop and the wireless works fine out of the box, but when i update it says that it can not find the device. i have a ar5212 wireless chipset. and i am running edgy
[09:54] <noelferreira> there's any date for it LjL?
[09:54] <bubuntu> POVaddct, nope tcpdump is just blinking cursor right now...  some arp who has is that a command?
[09:54] <ben__> I'm sorry, I'm forgetting how to use IRC.  Is there a channel I should join for Ubunut Security?
[09:54] <LjL> noelferreira: april 19. indicatively.
[09:54] <YetiChick> nrl:  Have you tried temporarily disabling other boot devices in the BIOS?  I had a laptop once that would not boot from the hard drive if any other boot device came first in the boot sequence, even if there was no bootable media in them.
[09:54] <ben__> I also can't recall how to change my display name.
[09:54] <my_haz> jlist: heh, that seems like such a simple question, but i can't think of a way to do it off the top of my head
[09:54] <noelferreira> you mean tomorrow? LjL
[09:54] <jlist> ardchoille: thanks! that works! Is there a way to tell that i'm running other unix? say, aix, hpux, solaris?
[09:54] <LjL> ben__: 1) no, there's just this channel for generic support  2) /nick nickname
[09:55] <LjL> noelferreira: where i am it's tomorrow, yes
[09:55] <YetiChick> nrl:  What kind of a laptop is it?
[09:55] <ardchoille> jlist: I do't know, I haven't used any of those.
[09:55] <nrl> YetiChick: I'll give that a try, brb irc on my laptop :)
[09:55] <Seraphire> LjL, Thanks.
[09:55] <noelferreira> so where i can go to see if it is already out?
[09:55] <baggito> how can i locate the physical location of a file that a font comes from?
[09:55] <stefg> pyr0000: probably you got a new kernel and need to copy a firmware file over
[09:55] <YetiChick> nrl:  Good luck.
[09:55] <LjL> noelferreira: www.ubuntu.com i suppose. or here
[09:55] <POVaddct> bubuntu: no, arp who-has is a arp request packet
[09:55] <ks> what's leanest configuration for ubuntu ?
[09:55] <noelferreira> ok
[09:55] <LjL> noelferreira: you'll see it in the topic if it's released
[09:55] <noelferreira> thanks
[09:55] <noelferreira> ok
[09:55] <noelferreira> bye
[09:55] <kerik> LjL: hmm...there was supposed to be a msg sometime soon?
[09:55] <nrl> YetiChick: evesham something or other with pentium m, I've had it for a couple of years so don't remember exactly
[09:55] <POVaddct> bubuntu: it is sent to know which mac address belongs to which ip address
[09:56] <WaxyFresh> ks, xubuntu
[09:56] <my_haz> jlist: for the record "gcc --version" tends to show that info
[09:56] <jlist> ardchoille: np. thanks
[09:56] <LjL> kerik: yes, bot is having serious problems though
[09:56] <WaxyFresh> is there anyway to make my desktop background a terminal?
[09:56] <POVaddct> bubuntu: the knoppix machine sent one when you pinged and the ubuntu box should see it
[09:56] <Seraphire> Question then:  I have someone that's trying dictionary attacks against my Ubuntu box.  Is there a way I can configure SSH so that it not let someone continue to try and log into my box after a certain number of failures?
[09:56] <pyr0000> well i tried to do the madwifi install and it would not "make" got a whole bunch of errors. not i cant see my wifi adapyter is there a way to get it back
[09:56] <robdeman> hi folks... the Ubuntu 7.04 ... how much will it be better for a server? I now run Ubuntu 6.10 / LAMP / no gui
[09:56] <POVaddct> bubuntu: if not, i guess there is a problem with either the cable or the card itself
[09:56] <kerik> LjL: obkb :)
[09:56] <jlist> my_haz: you are right. But on some of them, gcc is not installed
[09:56] <jrib> Seraphire: look into denyhosts
[09:56] <rycuda> Seraphire try DenyHosts
[09:56] <cyberfr0g`> hi
[09:56] <HYPOCRISY> yo
[09:56] <WaxyFresh> Seraphire, denyhosts
[09:56] <stefg> !wifi | pyr0000 , in case that helps
[09:57] <WaxyFresh> Seraphire, or turn off ssh
[09:57] <Slick> Hey guys, it looks like ubuntu will be used on dell laptops, michael dell has just got a personal laptop with ubuntu feisty running on it http://direct2dell.com/
[09:57] <Paul_UK> does anyone know a better rdp client than rdesktop?
[09:57] <pyr0000> !wifi
[09:57] <my_haz> jlist: word, i am always a bit suprised not to find gcc on a UNIX box :-{
[09:57] <Seraphire> jrib, rycuda, WaxyFresh: I'll look does that just do a specific IP or a policy?
[09:57] <roryy> Seraphire: or ask in #openssh
[09:57] <stefg> !test
[09:57] <bubuntu> POVaddct, tcpdump sends no info. i am still pinging from this box...
[09:57] <Seraphire> roryy, I'll check #openssh Thanks.
[09:57] <stefg> ubotu is asleep
[09:57] <spolyak> go feisty fawn! w00t!
[09:57] <Seraphire> WaxyFresh, I need SSH open as we don't all have console access.
[09:57] <rycuda> It's policy based Seraphire
[09:57] <Arzakon> Hi
[09:58] <babo>  sudo /etc/init.d/postgresql restart
[09:58] <bubuntu> POVaddct, what does arp look like? what am i looking for. no new info from  dump
[09:58] <cyberfr0g`> private
[09:58] <HYPOCRISY> good
[09:58] <babo> where am i going wrong ... ?
[09:58] <thekidrio> http://www.devilducky.com/media/60668/
[09:58] <thekidrio> oops sorry
[09:58] <POVaddct> bubuntu: wait i'll make a screenshot
[09:58] <thekidrio> wrong channel
[09:58] <n00t2> anyone have experience with installing from the 6.06 (dapper) cd to a software RAID 5 setup? using the disk to create the software RAID 5?
[09:58] <kerik> goodnight everyone :)
[09:58] <jlist> my_haz: i'm on a solaris box that doesn't have gcc :)
[09:58] <jano_> how come I cant set my resolution higher than 1024*768? I have enabled higher in xorg.conf, but they wont show up..
[09:58] <Seraphire> Thanks all, checking #openssh
[09:59] <movieman> i have a server running ubuntu 6.06 but the language is in french does any1 have the command line option to reconfigure it so i can change it to english please.
[09:59] <my_haz> jlist: to quote pinkfloyd suprise, suprise supries
[09:59] <spolyak> jano, it will try to read valid modes
[09:59] <WaxyFresh> is there anyway to make my desktop background a terminal?
[09:59] <WaxyFresh> ^^^work like a term
[09:59] <Arzakon> someone knows at what hour ubuntu 7.04 will be released?
[09:59] <jlist> my_haz: ubuntu doesn't have it unless i install build-essential, or am i wrong?
[10:00] <my_haz> jlist: no you are right
[10:00] <WaxyFresh> Arzakon, tommorow
[10:00] <jano_> spolyak, they have been set up in dpkg-reconfigure
[10:00] <WaxyFresh> i think
[10:00] <babo> how do I search for a particular shared object lib in the debs ?
[10:00] <n00t2> what hour, GMT?
[10:00] <babo> repos
[10:00] <my_haz> jlist: which as always bothered me
[10:00] <Arzakon> yes, but someone knows at what hour?
[10:00] <Paul_UK> 6am
[10:00] <jlist> my_haz: yeah. not sure why that decision. security?
[10:00] <n00t2> GMT is the assumption?
[10:00] <Arzakon> 6 am in UK time?
[10:00] <WaxyFresh> Paul_UK, damnit i have to wake up that early?
[10:00] <Arzakon> oks!
[10:00] <Arzakon> thks
[10:00] <jonaskul> !gparted
[10:00] <jano_> Arzakon, why do you need to know?
[10:01] <Paul_UK> lol no idea heh
[10:01] <my_haz> jlist: but then again i am doing the LTS, thing so i don't have to reinstall for like 5 years
[10:01] <n00t2> he's gonna DDOS the servers
[10:01] <Arzakon> lol
[10:01] <n00t2> every single mirror
[10:01] <Arzakon> impatience
[10:01] <n00t2> ;_p
[10:01] <Arzakon> xD
[10:01] <spolyak> jano, that isnt sufficient.
[10:01] <ubotu> GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[10:01] <offspring> Soundray, if you are still here. IT WORKED!
[10:01] <spolyak> it will probe for supported modes
[10:01] <my_haz> jlist: i dunno, they are just wacky
[10:01] <Wass|> hi
[10:01] <jano_> spolyak, so what should I do?
[10:01] <jlist> my_haz: good for you :) i'm not quite understanding the LTS thing though. You'd rather run an older version?
[10:01] <nrl> YetiChick: no luck, says "invalid mbr" which is the same as before
[10:02] <Wass|> I would like to know if it's possible to start a eggdrop with ssh without killing the egg when I close the ssh session
[10:02] <spolyak> what resolution ?
[10:02] <Lbawinowns> Ok, seriously GNUChess is a bad chess engine since I just drawed it when playing something impulsive -.-, anyway. Someone here know about any good Interface for chess engines?
[10:02] <POVaddct> bubuntu: http://<IP_ADDRESS>:28452/
[10:02] <icf7> I'm creating an Ubuntu package: What do I do if there is a zip file instead of a compressed tarball? Unzip and recompress it or just use .zip instead of .tar.gz ?
[10:02] <WaxyFresh> if im using a dsl modem do i need PPP installed?
[10:02] <jano_> spolyak, 1152x864
[10:03] <spolyak> what driver, monitor?
[10:03] <my_haz> jlist: well i tend to customize my box to high-hell, so reinstalls are a big long deal for me, so its better to wait a few months to get the latest and the greatest. The only big draw back i have found so far is not being able to add from apt, Python2.5, but meh, i can wait
[10:03] <jano_> spolyak, savage, and liteon monitor...
[10:03] <Wass|> anyone ?
[10:03] <my_haz> Wass|: screen
[10:04] <Wass|> my_haz : screen ?
[10:04] <YetiChick> nrl: Ah, you hadn't mentioned what the error was...  Or I missed it if you did.  It seems as if your BIOS doesn't like grub - at least on hard drives.  Does the BIOS have any virus protection enabled?  Sometimes that will break the MBR if something tries to write a new one.
[10:04] <my_haz> Wass|: ya you want to detach a "screen" session, thats what i am running right now
[10:04] <WaxyFresh> if im using a dsl modem do i need PPP installed?
[10:04] <Wass|> ok yeah..
[10:04] <spolyak> add this to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:04] <POVaddct> my_haz: screen rocks!
[10:05] <spolyak> Load "vbe"
[10:05] <nrl> YetiChick: nothing like that enabled and it has booted with grub before. I didn't mention the error last time as I had forgot, used the reboot as a chance to remind myself :)
[10:05] <my_haz> POVaddct: yes, yes it does :D
[10:05] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: modem or router ?
[10:05] <spolyak> under section "Module"
[10:05] <jlist> my_haz: having to reinstall every 6 months is always a pain. The upgrading from one version to another version w/o reinstalling didn't work well last time i tried
[10:05] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: you need pppoeconf for some dsl modems, but not ordinary ppp as in dialup
[10:05] <spolyak> jano, see also https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/48720
[10:05] <Wass|> my_haz : I just need to type : seen sudo -u theuser /bin/eggdrop -nt /path/to/eggdrop.conf ?
[10:06] <jlist> my_haz: this is actually more annoying on linux than on windows. On windows, at least i don't have to reinstall for the last few years
[10:06] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: most ISPs these days use router modems
[10:06] <my_haz> jlist: it was uneventful for me, i tend to wait to do that too, so most of the buggs are worked out. Ya i know, i am a wuss.
[10:06] <bubuntu> POVaddct, thanks... checking it out now. i need to get some sleep and crash, thank you for the help
[10:06] <Unearth> hey all
[10:06] <POVaddct> bubuntu: alright
[10:06] <my_haz> jlist: i dunno jack about windows
[10:06] <WaxyFresh> thoreauputic, how do i tell if its a router or modem?
[10:06] <Seraphire> Hi again, it looks like deny hosts would probably be what I want, but apt-get doesn't seem to have it.  I tried loading adept, but it doesn't have it either.  What do I have to add to the configuration so that I can load the "denyhosts" it's flagged as "unstable" which concerns me.
[10:07] <YetiChick> nrl: Well, I'm out of suggestions.  It's clear that the MBR isn't being written correctly, but if grub was writing to the boot sector of the partition and not the MBR, it seems as though your MBR would still be "valid".
[10:07] <knightmove_> f
[10:07] <my_haz> jlist: basically, and then detache with C-d
[10:07] <WaxyFresh> thoreauputic, phone comes into the modem then splits it in between 5 computers so router?
[10:07] <Wass|> ok screen rocks
[10:07] <Wass|> :P
[10:07] <jlist> my_haz: sent your last msg to the wrong id?
[10:07] <bubuntu> POVaddct,  should this knoppix livecd if it works on this laptop... work on the desktop? if it doesn't get an ip from the dhcp using this livecds settings can we say its not the settings?
[10:07] <Unearth> do you know when feisty will be released finally?
[10:07] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: does it have an IP address and a web browser config interface?
[10:07] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: sound like a router
[10:07] <YetiChick> nrl: You're doing "setup (hd0)", not "setup (hd0,0)", right?
[10:07] <spolyak> damn compiz cube still acting wacky
[10:08] <Wass|> is there a way to get back the program when I closed the session ?
[10:08] <jano_> spolyak, it was already there... and I have a feeling the driver doesnt work anyway... :(
[10:08] <nrl> YetiChick: yes :)
[10:08] <my_haz> Wass|: ya bassically, then C-d to detach, screen -r to reattach
[10:08] <spolyak> mmmm
[10:08] <ByPasS> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ -> no
[10:08] <YetiChick> nrl: I assumed as much - you don't sound like a noob.  :)
[10:08] <POVaddct> bubuntu: i suspect the desktop does not have a ethernet link
[10:08] <my_haz> Wass|: i can show you my screen config if you wish
[10:08] <WaxyFresh> thoreauputic, i dont know how do i figure out its ip?
[10:08] <jano_> spolyak, when I move windows the icons on desktop disapear for small moment (like half a second)
[10:08] <POVaddct> bubuntu: may the wrong cable? crossover instead of patch cable?
[10:08] <piglit> acording to this howto http://nsaunders.wordpress.com/2006/11/06/a-usb-stick-grub-and-ubuntu/ i need the file      boot.img.gz    i downloaded the ubuntu-7.04-beta-alternate-amd64.iso but ik cant find the file  boot.img.gz  so my question where can i find it ?
[10:08] <Seraphire> OKay, I just found the package in "stable" according to the Debian pacakge list website, but I don't see it in adept. Any guesses?
[10:09] <Wass|> my_haz : I just need to know if there's a way to get back to the process sent in background now
[10:09] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: if you type "ifconfig" the IP would be the gateway IP
[10:09] <nrl> YetiChick: worth asking just for a sanity check anyway :)
[10:09] <Unearth> bypass is this the final?
[10:09] <my_haz> Wass|: yup, screen -r
[10:09] <bubuntu> POVaddct,  thing is. when it was still wireless it had the same problem. it would send packets and not recieve one.
[10:09] <Wass|> oh ok
[10:09] <YetiChick> nrl: You might want to try using the live CD from another distro to install grub...  Just a thought.  It's possible that something about this build is just not working on your machine.
[10:09] <ByPasS> date shows 15 april so no
[10:09] <Wass|> that's so cool
[10:09] <Wass|> thanks buddy
[10:09] <WaxyFresh> thoreauputic, then i can type that into my browser and it should po up with a config thingy?
[10:09] <my_haz> Wass|: "Ctrl a d" for detach
[10:10] <nrl> YetiChick: yea, I've been trying various packages from debian alrady as that was working on this machine before but no luck
[10:10] <Wass|> alright :D
[10:10] <ypSami> Ah! help! Ubuntu keeps shutting down with "Critical Temp Reached [93c] " any time I run more than a couple applications. Is my fan out? Is it possible something changed with my software?
[10:10] <my_haz> Wass|: screen is your friend, now go find a good .screenrc
[10:10] <POVaddct> bubuntu: yeah, but i think that was a wlan specific problem
[10:10] <bubuntu> POVaddct,  network monitor thingie on the toolbar shows spikes of network activity but all sending
[10:10] <YetiChick> nrl: I'm having that problem with the ns82830 module for one of my NICs.  It works fine from every other distro I try, but not from any Ubuntu distro.
[10:10] <zorlin> Hey guys?
[10:10] <Wass|> my_haz : thanks again! :)
[10:10] <zorlin> Know how far away the fiesty release is?
[10:10] <blahblah556> hey, im having problems installing a canon printer
[10:10] <POVaddct> bubuntu: i dont give a sh*t for gui network monitor tool
[10:10] <zorlin> I mean I know its tomorrow, but I dont have an exact time right now
[10:10] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: it should - and sorry , you want the "route" command I think
[10:10] <YetiChick> nrl: Although Ubuntu is nice enough that I was willing to swap out my NIC to keep playing with it.
[10:10] <bubuntu> POVaddct,  okay changing wires now...
[10:11] <sharperguy> where do i get the realmedia codec?
[10:11] <sharperguy> msg ubotu codecs
[10:11] <nrl> YetiChick: :)
[10:11] <ypSami> Is there a way to find out WHICH component is reaching critical temperature? Or is there a way to monitor temperature?
[10:11] <sharperguy> ^^ oops sorry meant to put a / before that
[10:11] <Unearth> when will the final stable version be released?
[10:11] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: the gateway IP would be the one on the "default" line
[10:11] <Korgmatose> tomorrow
[10:11] <bubuntu> POVaddct, oh wait that would disconnect me...
[10:11] <YetiChick> nrl: That's odd...  So even ones that worked before no longer work?
[10:11] <blahblah556> i followed the tutorial for installing the ip1500 canon printer, followed the tutorial on ubuntu forums, it shows the printer but printer doesnt work
[10:11] <POVaddct> bubuntu: i guess so
[10:11] <my_haz> ypSami: gkrellm ?
[10:12] <statefanchris> there is another stable version of ubuntu about to be released?
[10:12] <bubuntu> POVaddct, okay bye... hope its the wires.
[10:12] <WaxyFresh> thoreauputic, ifconfig route  = route: error fetching interface information: Device not found
[10:12] <DVS01> sometimes when i log off or switch users, my screen goes black, with just a mouse pointer visible. i end up having to restart gdm. is there a way to fix this?
[10:12] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: it's usually something like <IP_ADDRESS> ( but not necessarily)
[10:12] <nrl> YetiChick: I think so, but I have no recollection of the exact verion number I had on my mbr so I can't say it is the "one" that worked before
[10:12] <Unearth> ouwh really? thats so great
[10:12] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: no, just type " route"
[10:12] <zorlin> Does anyone know how soon fiesty will be released?
[10:12] <Unearth> so im looking forward tomorro =) cya guys
[10:12] <zorlin> (in relative terms, hours etc?)
[10:12] <my_haz> ypSami: which proly uses something in /proc
[10:13] <Korgmatose> 6am gmt
[10:13] <bokey> !feisty | zorlin
[10:13] <ubotu> zorlin: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[10:13] <YetiChick> nrl: (nod)  Hm.  Wonder if you're having hard drive issues that just happen to coincide with this install...
[10:13] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: the correct IP should be in the modem/router manual anyway
[10:13] <jano_> what does thins mean in xorg.conf?    Option      "UseFBDev"      "true"
[10:13] <zorlin> awesome...
[10:13] <baggito> i remember!!!!   sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig
[10:13] <WaxyFresh> can i pm you the results?
[10:13] <thoreauputic> janey: "Frame Buffer Device" i think
[10:13] <WaxyFresh> thoreauputic, ^
[10:13] <zorlin> that means it'll be here for me at about 2pm... :D
[10:13] <bokey> !pastebin | WaxyFresh
[10:13] <ubotu> WaxyFresh: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:14] <jano_> thoreauputic, thx
[10:14] <Seraphire> Anyone know how to add the debian stable package to adept?
[10:14] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: ?
[10:14] <piglit> i need the file boot.img.gz from the iso ubuntu-7.04-beta-alternate-amd64 where can i find it?
[10:14] <WaxyFresh> thoreauputic, can i pm you the results of the route?under gate way it just says *
[10:14] <ypSami> The built in ubuntu tools for monitoring temperature are terrible. I should write some new software.
[10:14] <nrl> YetiChick: well that could be true as the hdd has actually slipped out before causing some issues (it wasn't secured properly) but I've actually had this issue with ubuntu for as long as I can remember on this laptop (i think I tried ubuntu when I got it but quickly switched to debian rather than try to fix it, now debian is so far behind on the gnome front I'm trying again this time)
[10:15] <zorlin> Sami, that'd be nice
[10:15] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: do you have the manual for this modem?
[10:15] <Paul_UK> i need the file ubuntu-7.04-desktop.iso can anyone help me out? :P
[10:15] <zorlin> I'm kinda looking for some good temp monitoring software.
[10:15] <WaxyFresh> thoreauputic, no
[10:15] <krabador> hey people, who of you now are using feisty?
[10:15] <zorlin> Need any suggestions? :P
[10:15] <ypSami> my_haz: gkrellm is for multiple stacked monitors?
[10:15] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: is it ISP supplied?
[10:15] <zorlin> Krab? I'm using it in a virtual machine
[10:15] <bokey> Paul_UK: you can download it using torrents
[10:15] <WaxyFresh> thoreauputic, yup
[10:15] <chexay> im on feisty
[10:15] <bokey> !mirrors | Paul_UK
[10:15] <ubotu> Paul_UK: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[10:15] <zorlin> the beta is really nice, but i havent had a great change to use it
[10:15] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: then call your ISP and ask :)
[10:15] <Paul_UK> i'll wait till the final release bokey :P
[10:15] <my_haz> ypSami: sorry you went over my head
[10:16] <jano_> krabador, me, on my second computer... (kane77)
[10:16] <sharperguy> Where do I get the realmedia codec?
[10:16] <zorlin> !fiesty
[10:16] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[10:16] <thoreauputic> !restricted | sharperguy
[10:16] <Betzefer> !schedule
[10:16] <ubotu> sharperguy: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:16] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[10:16] <YetiChick> nrl: Could be ...  so many things...  :)  If you have access to any other MBR installable boot manager, you might want to try that to eliminate the possibility that it's the drive.  I'm really just kind of babbling now.  :)
[10:16] <zorlin> !dapper
[10:16] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu.  Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".
[10:16] <Firetear> quick question, is the Ubuntu 6.10 install CD a Live CD? or do I need to use the older version live CD?
[10:16] <krabador> zorlin, chexay, you've upgraded edgy?
[10:16] <zorlin> Krab?
[10:16] <sharperguy> thoreauputic, I already tried that link
[10:16] <zorlin> No, I dont use edgy, I'm a dapper.
[10:16] <jano_> !abuse
[10:16] <thoreauputic> Firetear: desktop CD is a live CD
[10:17] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:17] <Firetear> danke
[10:17] <sharperguy> thoreauputic, and it mentions it. and I added the mediabuntu repo but no realmedia codec
[10:17] <zorlin> I'm using it through a virtual machine. Clean install
[10:17] <thoreauputic> sharperguy: then you didn't follow it properly :) It tells you all about codecs etc
[10:17] <zorlin> is there a simple talk channel on this server?
[10:17] <krabador> zorlin : feisty beta?
[10:17] <my_haz> sharperguy: http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2007/03/install-mplayer-and-multimedia-codecs.html
[10:17] <nrl> YetiChick: yea that's my next move I think, don't have anything to hand but I do have a pile of blank CDs
[10:17] <zorlin> Krab, talk over pm please?
[10:17] <MetaBookfoziS> what program generates fstab during the isntall? can i re create that?
[10:18] <thoreauputic> sharperguy: most of the real codecs are now handled by ffmpeg
[10:18] <xamat> my OpenOffice is broken in Edgy, anybody can help?
[10:18] <thoreauputic> sharperguy: Cook for example is included in ffmpeg
[10:18] <nrl> YetiChick: grub must be the most annoying thing to get a problem with, so many damn reboots
[10:18] <xamat> I get: no suitable windowing system found, exiting.
[10:18] <xamat> ** (process:5132): WARNING **: Unknown error forking main binary / abnormal early exit ..
[10:18] <Death_Sargent> how do I add noacpi to my grub boot
[10:18] <YetiChick> nrl: I've found boot-us (http://www.boot-us.com/) to be quite useful at times.
[10:18] <jerry> hello all
[10:18] <sharperguy> thoreauputic, it says to install ppc-codecs but the package isn't in the mediabuntu repo
[10:18] <Death_Sargent> I am using a single processor with HT
[10:19] <ypSami> How can you backup Tomboy notes?
[10:19] <Death_Sargent> how do I add noacpi to my boot
[10:19] <sharperguy> thoreauputic, in fact, dont even read what i just said :P
[10:19] <thoreauputic> sharperguy: you are on PPC ? And yes, that codec is there for ppc
[10:19] <nrl> YetiChick: I don't have windows to install that with unfortunately
[10:19] <Paul_UK> does anyone know if crossover works in fiesty and allows for MS Office 2003 to be installed?
[10:19] <ypSami> nevermind, just need to backup ~/.tomboy
[10:19] <sorcerer> is there a way in linux letys .. say something bad happens to my machine right and i need to install it all over again .. and i really dont remember what i installed or all those .. repos i had in my source list /./. like i want a new system with the same stuff i hade befoe it crashed ... like i just do a sudo pat or what ever and downloads all the applications thats was there on the machine earlier .. before the crash ?
[10:20] <BaACkUp> !ping me
[10:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ping me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:20] <YetiChick> nrl: Understood.  I generally only multi-boot if I absolutely need Windows on that machine.
[10:20] <jerry> can someone tell me how to setup a windows/linux newwork?
[10:20] <stefg> sorcerer: that's called a backup :-)
[10:20] <netmon1> WHen I do an apt-get and it says extra packages, suggested packages, and NEW packages, is it installing all of these or which is it installing?
[10:20] <netmon1> Because I only want the new ones not the suggested
[10:20] <YetiChick> nrl: Other than that, I tend to run a single OS on any given box.
[10:20] <thoreauputic> sorcerer: make a list with:   dpkg --get-selections > package.list
[10:20] <Seraphire> So, no takers on how I can get denyhosts installed?
[10:20] <jlintz> netmon1: and apt-get what
[10:21] <jrib> Seraphire: what version of ubuntu?
[10:21] <netmon1> sarg
[10:21] <spolyak> jano, sorry Jan, my search isn't coming up with anything helpful yet.
[10:21] <sorcerer> iam new .. i dunno how do this .. so coudl you guys just walk me through it or a tutorial ?
[10:21] <Seraphire> jrib,  2.6.15-28-server
[10:21] <scrav> in my bios i cant find anything about disconnecting hardware. I need to disconnect my modem to get the sound working. i think
[10:21] <movieman> hi guys can anyone help, I have a server but the language is in french does anyone know how to change it to english from terminal
[10:21] <sorcerer> thoreauputic:  once i gety the package list what happens next
[10:21] <jrib> Seraphire: is that dapper?
[10:21] <scrav> anyone know howto?
[10:22] <Seraphire> jrib, I think so. It's the latest stable server version.
[10:22] <xamat> so, anybody can help in getting Open Office up again in Edgy?
[10:22] <thoreauputic> sorcerer: that command will put it in a file called package.list
[10:22] <thoreauputic> sorcerer: you can read that with a text editor
[10:22] <jrib> !version | Seraphire
[10:22] <Seraphire> jrib, I installed it only about 2 weeks ago.
[10:22] <ubotu> Seraphire: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[10:22] <jrib> Seraphire: lsb_release -a
[10:22] <sorcerer> thoreauputic: umm it says permision denied
[10:22] <Seraphire> ! lsb_release -a
[10:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lsb_release -a - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:22] <jrib> Seraphire: in a shell
[10:22] <zorlin> in terminal -.-
[10:23] <thoreauputic> sorcerer: you are in the wrong directory then - do the command in your $HOME dir
[10:23] <Seraphire> jrib, Sorry, Copy and paste.  Yes, Dapper 6.06
[10:23] <spolyak> jano, sorry Jan, my search isn't coming up with anything helpful yet.
[10:23] <JacktheHomeless> Is there any way to change the bitrate of ogg files when extracting them using Sound Juicer?
[10:23] <jano_> how can I find out if my graphics driver works?
[10:23] <Seraphire> jrib, Description:    Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS
[10:23] <Ph0biA> Hey
[10:23] <ypSami> Anyone know why my IBM A31p will install and run the ATI catalyst drivers with fedora core 6, but not with ubuntu?
[10:23] <zorlin> type glxgears, if the performance is really bad usually graphics acceleration isnt on
[10:23] <Ph0biA> I need help if anyone can help me.
[10:23] <thoreauputic> sorcerer:  cd ~ ; dpkg --get-selections > package.list
[10:23] <sorcerer> thoreauputic:  why does it always have to be in the home directory ?
[10:23] <jrib> Seraphire: hmm denyhosts was only pacakged in edgy
[10:24] <thoreauputic> sorcerer: because in most directories outside $HOME you don't have write permissions without sudo :)
[10:24] <jano_> spolyak, np, I found xorg.conf of the exactly the same card and it uses the same driver (savage) and it is totaly same as mine, so I dont know, what could that be...
[10:24] <Seraphire> jrib, Is there a Ubuntu list I can check for this? I've only see the packages.debian.org
[10:24] <Ph0biA> Is this Ubuntu 6.10 Edgy Support?
[10:24] <spolyak> mmmm.
[10:24] <jrib> Seraphire: well you should just use apt-cache search, but ubuntu has packages.ubuntu.com
[10:24] <nrl> YetiChick: will be back to report progress soon, thanks for your help :)
[10:24] <jrib> Ph0biA: yes, welcome
[10:24] <thoreauputic> sorcerer: /tmp is an exception
[10:24] <spolyak> maybe it is the monitor then
[10:24] <Ph0biA> Alright, thanks
[10:25] <Ph0biA> Im having trouble installing flash player
[10:25] <jano_> zorlin, 195 fps.. is that ok?
[10:25] <john__> hello!
[10:25] <Ph0biA> I've tried all these tutorials that arent working.
[10:25] <sorcerer> thoreauputic:  ok mate well .. what happened the pakage liste .. what dfoes that contain and what can id o
[10:25] <Seraphire> jrib, okay. I tried the apt-cache and I don't see it.  I've added the universe and the multiverse
[10:25] <Korgmatose> Ph0biA, nspluginwrapper ones?
[10:25] <jano_> spolyak, but then I have the same monitor on my second computer and ther it works on higher resolution...
[10:25] <thoreauputic> sorcerer: now that you have the list, have a look at it ( gedit packages.list )
[10:25] <spolyak> jano, i note that some monitors only respond so certain resolutions when the fre. is properly set.
[10:25] <Ph0biA> Yeah
[10:26] <john__> does anyone know why i cant use "gcc" in my terminal
[10:26] <spolyak> e.g.
[10:26] <Ph0biA> It came up with an error saying not found.
[10:26] <Ph0biA> or files not found.
[10:26] <thoreauputic> sorcerer: all the packages marked "install" are ones you have installed
[10:26] <jrib> Seraphire: right, because denyhosts is not packaged in dapper.  Only edgy.  Grab denyhosts from the sourceforge page, it's a python script, so it should be relatively painless
[10:26] <jano_> john__, do you have it installed?
[10:26] <spolyak> my dell monitor will only allow 1600x1200 is my fre is set to exactly 60
[10:26] <john__> well i thougt it was..
[10:26] <Seraphire> jrib, Oh, okay. Can I not grab the package from the debian package site and install it with an installer? Just the manual install?
[10:26] <larryone> hi
[10:27] <thoreauputic> john__: install build-essential
[10:27] <sharperguy> !build-essential | john__
[10:27] <ubotu> john__: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:27] <sorcerer> thoreauputic: ok mate .. it shows all the stuff i have installed how can i use it on my new system
[10:27] <thoreauputic> sorcerer: install all those packages :)
[10:27] <jrib> Seraphire: it may not work.  I know that the feisty and edgy packages for denyhosts are not compatible for example
[10:27] <robdeman> anybody here that has experience with Trac onder Ubuntu?
[10:27] <Korgmatose> Ph0biA, this tutorial works flawlessly if you follow it to the letter: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=290785
[10:27] <larryone> I have packages that are broken and I cant remove them with either apt-get or synaptic... all of them are xorg ones that I need to reinstall - but they seemingly cant be removed
[10:27] <thoreauputic> sorcerer: you can feed it to  dpkg --set-selections
[10:28] <larryone> can anyone help me?
[10:28] <Seraphire> jrib, Okay. I'll just grab the manual install and do it from SF.
[10:28] <spolyak> when x is starting up it probes the monitor for supported resolutions
[10:28] <Seraphire> jrib, Thank you very much for the help.
[10:28] <thoreauputic> sorcerer: this is all in the dpkg man page :)
[10:28] <jrib> Seraphire: yw
[10:28] <patzlaff> Hi I need help
[10:28] <larryone> can anyone help me remove these broken packags???
[10:28] <jano_> spolyak, hmm.. on neither fr there is any new resolution...
[10:29] <larryone> apt-get returns errors when I try
[10:29] <thoreauputic> sorcerer: as with most things in linux, there are several ways to achieve the same thing
[10:29] <n00t2> !help | patzlaff
[10:29] <ubotu> patzlaff: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:29] <patzlaff> I have NVIDIA card and when I enable Desktop Effects
[10:29] <spolyak> what is monitor make, model again?
[10:29] <patzlaff> my screen was blank
[10:29] <WaxyFresh> whats dbus do excatly and do i need it?
[10:29] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: you need it :)
[10:29] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: in fact, it is fundamental
[10:30] <WaxyFresh> thoreauputic, thought so,but whats it do beside sends messages inbetween apps? can you give an example?
[10:30] <n00t2> WaxyFresh: if you remove it, the flying monkeys come after you
[10:30] <Ph0biA> Korgmatose, it came up with the same error already "File not found"
[10:31] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: simple example:  network-manager won't work without dbus ( lots of other things won't either)
[10:31] <jerry> need help setting up a windows & linux network for files
[10:31] <jano_> WaxyFresh, and the unix daemon will dog your steps until time_ts wrap around
[10:31] <n00t2> !samba | jerry
[10:31] <ubotu> jerry: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:31] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: it is intimately bound to HAl and udev etc
[10:31] <Korgmatose> Ph0biA, on what step
[10:31] <Ph0biA> Korgmatose,  sudo alien -d nspluginwrapper*.rpm
[10:32] <boobytrapped> Hi.  I can no longer suspend my T60p with feisty -- it used to work with edgy.  Does anyone know how to debug these kinds of problems?
[10:32] <boobytrapped> T60p = Thinkpad T60p
[10:32] <jerry> thx's man :)
[10:32] <Korgmatose> have you downloaded nspluginwrapper to the same directory you you are doing alien from?
[10:33] <n00t2> jerry: np
[10:33] <patzlaff> Anybody can help me /
[10:33] <patzlaff> ?
[10:33] <Ph0biA> Korgmatose, Im doing it all in terminal
[10:33] <n00t2> patzlaff: state your problem
[10:33] <Auron0> I'd like to share some information that I gathered from setting up ubuntu on my system.
[10:33] <patzlaff> I have one card NVIDIA and when Desktop Effects enable, the screen was blank
[10:33] <jano_> patzlaff, do you have nvidia-glx installed?
[10:33] <Korgmatose> yeah, I thought so, but are the nspluginwrapper rpm's in the same directry?
[10:33] <chexay> feel free
[10:33] <Auron0> If you are running SLI video cards, you HAVE to take out the secondary card, or else you will get no video on start-up.
[10:34] <Ph0biA> Korgmatose, what directory should they be in?
[10:34] <patzlaff> no
[10:34] <Auron0> That is what my problem was
[10:34] <patzlaff> I don't have this package
[10:34] <Ph0biA> (This is my 2nd day of ubuntu)
[10:34] <jano_> patzlaff, then do first :)
[10:34] <patzlaff> tks
[10:34] <Korgmatose> Ph0biA, the same as you are writing commands from (your "current" directory)
[10:34] <patzlaff> I'm installing now
[10:34] <zorlin> Hi ph0bia
[10:35] <Ph0biA> Hi zorlin
[10:35] <Korgmatose> if you downloaded the files to your home-directory, you would do "cd ~ " first
[10:35] <zorlin> 2nd day of ubuntu eh?
[10:35] <patzlaff> later I will reply for you if it works.
[10:35] <colbert> In IRC how do I do /list for a network so it opens in a new tab and sorts the results ?? I am using XChat
[10:35] <Ph0biA> Hmmm
[10:35] <Korgmatose> if your desktop, then "cd ~/Desktop"
[10:35] <zorlin> How do you like it so far?
[10:35] <jano_> patzlaff, you will have to reconfigure xorg first...
[10:36] <zorlin> Ph0biA: How do you like ubuntu so far?
[10:36] <zorlin> as in, what are your general feelings about it :P
[10:36] <Ph0biA> Zorlin, Im lost....
[10:36] <zorlin> Ok.
[10:36] <WaxyFresh> thoreauputic, can atd be disabled it says its for schedualing of jobs,is this system jobs or user schedualed jobs?
[10:37] <larryone> I'm having major problems with dpkg and my xserver-xorg stuff... I'm getting an error message that contradicts itself#
[10:37] <larryone> dpkg: error processing xserver-xorg (--remove):
[10:37] <larryone>  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[10:37] <larryone>  reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[10:37] <adaptr> user jobs, system jobs aren't scheduled by at
[10:37] <sacater> anyone willing to help with my compiling problem? http://rafb.net/p/JPrUnC37.html
[10:37] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: why are you fooling with stuff you don't understand?
[10:37] <larryone> does this make sense to anyone?
[10:38] <sacater> larryone: nope
[10:38] <WaxyFresh> thoreauputic, im trying to disable every service i dont need
[10:38] <Ph0biA> Lost lol
[10:38] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: afaik atd is for scheduling "at" commands
[10:38] <zorlin> larryone, i think it means you need to reinstall it before removal is 'safe'
[10:38] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: why?
[10:38] <Ph0biA> I dunno, I like it, but I cant do half the stuff I could before.
[10:38] <zorlin> which doesnt make logical sense, but try reinstalling it or posting on the forums for some more support: ubuntu-forums.org
[10:38] <larryone> zorlin, how can I reinstall if I cant remove???
[10:38] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: are you suffering from the delusion that this will improve performance?
[10:38] <spolyak> like what Ph0biA ?
[10:38] <Puppy_> I have two upgrade questions. 1st, should I back stuff up for upgrading? and 2ed, what is the suggested way to upgrade?
[10:38] <zorlin> larryone, try using --reinstall
[10:39] <Ph0biA> Like downloading things spolyak
[10:39] <zorlin> i'm not sure of the exact commands
[10:39] <larryone> with apt or with dpkg??
[10:39] <Puppy_> *this is upgrading to 7.04
[10:39] <alduin> -Always- back things up before upgrading.
[10:39] <spolyak> "things?"
[10:39] <Ph0biA> Korgmatose, it says no such directory for Desktop
[10:39] <larryone> zorlin, with apt or with dpkg??
[10:39] <Puppy_> ok alduin.
[10:39] <WaxyFresh> thoreauputic, why yes i am,i figure the less services running means the less procseses running and that should mean more aviable resources
[10:39] <zorlin> larryone, try dpkg.
[10:39] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: the only services that have security implications are internet facing ones, unless you are a sysadmin on some evil corporate LAN ;)
[10:40] <zorlin> Ph0biA, desktop is located in /home/yourusername/Desktop
[10:40] <larryone> zorlin, thanks, I'll give it a go
[10:40] <zorlin> Ph0bia, its case sensitive.
[10:40] <zorlin> So /home/zorlin/desktop wouldnt work whereas /home/zorlin/Desktop would :)
[10:40] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: what you describe as "services" generally are asleep 99.99% of the time and therefore not using resources
[10:40] <larryone> zorlin,
[10:40] <larryone> dpkg: unknown option --reinstall
[10:40] <zorlin> try using "wget" for non-interactive downloads.
[10:40] <Puppy_> so what is the suggested way to upgrade to 7.04?
[10:40] <Ph0biA> still says no directory sorlin
[10:40] <zorlin> and larry you are welcome.
[10:40] <Ph0biA> zorlin*
[10:41] <zorlin> uhh, I said i'm not sure of the exact commands
[10:41] <jrib> !upgrade > Puppy_    (Puppy_, see the private message from ubotu)
[10:41] <zorlin> sorry, lemme fiddle in my terminal for a bit
[10:41] <larryone> ok
[10:41] <zorlin> i'll find out for you
[10:41] <Puppy_> thanks jrib!
[10:41] <Steven_Laptop> hello all laptop wont boot wonder Y?   http://office.homefrontus.com/laptop
[10:41] <WaxyFresh> thoreauputic, thanks i stop fool'n with things i dont know anything about now
[10:41] <zorlin> Larryone
[10:42] <larryone> yup
[10:42] <zorlin> have you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure?
[10:42] <larryone> just tried reconfigure
[10:42] <larryone> just now yea
[10:42] <zorlin> alright, just verifying
[10:42] <larryone> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xserver-xorg is broken or not fully installed
[10:42] <LjL> larryone, IMHO if you got kernel panics, it's not really xorg that you should be worrying about
[10:42] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: :) A wise decision
[10:42] <larryone> LjL, I think it might be a graphics card problem
[10:43] <WaxyFresh> thoreauputic, wonder if theres anything i can play with in the kernal.....jk
[10:43] <LjL> larryone: a graphics card problem that prevents the xserver-xorg package from installing? hmm
[10:43] <Paul_UK> hey someone know a good irc client, better than xchat, more like mirc for windows?
[10:43] <Ph0biA> Ok, how about this instead, does ANYONE know how to change your file system from read only to read and write?
[10:43] <larryone> LjL, nope - seperate issue
[10:43] <larryone> the 2 are not related
[10:43] <rambo3> Mouse is hardware that powers the computer !
[10:43] <Pooky> if deleted all the sessions from .nautilus
[10:43] <Steven_Laptop> aim
[10:44] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: lots of things - if you enjoy breaking your system ;p
[10:44] <Pooky> would nautilus create new ones?
[10:44] <rambo3> Pooky, yes
[10:44] <thekidrio> Only 244 copies of Genuine Windows Vista sold in China
[10:44] <zorlin> larryone
[10:44] <Pooky> gnome is dying cause it can't find some session stuff :/
[10:44] <zorlin> larryone, can you please pm me?
[10:44] <Ph0biA> Zorlin
[10:44] <rambo3> That means half a bilion chinese share 244 windows keys
[10:44] <zorlin> Yes ph0bia?
[10:44] <larryone> zorlin, one minute
[10:45] <WaxyFresh> thoreauputic, i was kidding.but yes i do enjoy breaking my system its how i learn.im sure theres a better way but this is what works for me
[10:45] <thoreauputic> Ph0biA: permissions are generally there for excellent reasons worked out over thirty or more years of *nix history
[10:45] <thekidrio> rambo3, heh yeah just thought #ubuntu would like to hear about the latest blow to M$
[10:45] <Ph0biA> How do I change my filesystem to read and right?
[10:45] <Zorlin> If you *MUST*
[10:45] <ikonia> thekidrio: there is no "blow" to me
[10:45] <Ph0biA> I just need to paste one thing, it'll fix my problem
[10:45] <ikonia> ms
[10:45] <rambo3> Ph0biA, you mount it as read and write
[10:45] <Zorlin> You could use sudo chmod, etc
[10:45] <thoreauputic> Ph0biA: which filesystem?
[10:46] <Zorlin> or use sudo nautilus instead.
[10:46] <Ph0biA> I dont know, Im so confused, I've been using Windows OS since 5, Linux since yesterday
[10:46] <Ph0biA> IT says filesystem
[10:46] <thoreauputic> Ph0biA: why do i have the feeling you are about to do something irreversibly silly ?
[10:46] <Zorlin> Ph0bia
[10:46] <Ph0biA> Im not...
[10:46] <thekidrio> ikonia, umm several billion illegal copies of windows is certainly a blow to M$
[10:46] <Zorlin> type sudo nautilus in terminal,
[10:46] <ikonia> not really
[10:46] <Zorlin> if your X server is working.
[10:47] <Ph0biA> I just want to paste the thing into the mozilla firefox plugin folder.
[10:47] <thekidrio> you are not in the industry i take it ikonia
[10:47] <rambo3> thekidrio, #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:47] <ikonia> thekidrio: of course I am
[10:47] <Ph0biA> It should fix it just the way I want
[10:47] <thoreauputic> Ph0biA: the thing that is labelled "filesystem" is not *supposed* to be writable by an unprivileged user
[10:47] <ikonia> rambo3: good call
[10:47] <Ph0biA> Im the owner of the computer...
[10:47] <thoreauputic> *sigh*
[10:47] <Ph0biA> (Im new at this)
[10:47] <thoreauputic> Ph0biA: this isn't Windows
[10:47] <thoreauputic> !rootsudo | Ph0biA
[10:47] <ubotu> Ph0biA: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:48] <DrNick> thekidrio: microsoft is one of the richest and largest companies on eath.  they have so much money that even if 60% of the copies of vista they sold were pirate (which they wont be), they'd *still* do fine, and probably still make profit.
[10:48] <DVS01> i want to update my nvidia drivers using a download from the nvidia site. do i need to first remove my nvidia driver packages?
[10:48] <ikonia> DVS01: why do you want to do that
[10:48] <DVS01> to have more up to date drivers
[10:48] <ikonia> DVS01: why ?
[10:48] <gils> question: if i set specific admin permisions to a file/folder, what happens once i burn them to CD?
[10:48] <DVS01> and perhaps fix this problem i am having, getting a black screen after logging off or switching users which sometimes happens
[10:48] <Ph0biA> how do I do that Thoreaputic?
[10:49] <nazgjunk> hey, i just updated a lot of my system, and now all weblinks from xchat open in konqueror instead of in firefox. I did try update-alternatives, but it didn't change anything - any suggestions on how to fix this?
[10:49] <thoreauputic> Ph0biA: to make changes to system files you need to use sudo or gksudo
[10:49] <DVS01> ikonia: switching to a different user and logging off, sometimes causes me to get stuck at a black screen with just a mouse pointer. i end up having to restart gdm. i'm hoping that maybe newer nvidia drivers fix this
[10:49] <thoreauputic> Ph0biA: you need to read the rootsudo factoid URL i got Ubotu to post
[10:50] <ikonia> DVS01: what card do you have
[10:50] <DVS01> a laptop mxm geforce 7600 512mb
[10:50] <thoreauputic> Ph0biA: I suspect you have downloaded something from some site and now want to install it, right? that isn't how Ubuntu does things
[10:51] <Zambezi> I'm having problem login on a FTP with SSL with lftp. Anyone know howto do? I tried a couple of methods.
[10:51] <thoreauputic> Ph0biA: you know about add/remove programs and synaptic?
[10:51] <thoreauputic> !synaptic | Ph0biA
[10:51] <ubotu> Ph0biA: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[10:51] <Puppy_> so what is the suggested way to upgrade to 7.04 (I heard that you can upgrade with a single terminal command..... but it is not recommended, so what is?)
[10:51] <thoreauputic> !upgrade
[10:51] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[10:51] <Ph0biA> Im confused
[10:51] <ikonia> DVS01: I doubt the drivers will change that
[10:51] <Ph0biA> Whats the command?
[10:52] <Pooky> is there a (preferred) place I can paste a log
[10:52] <DVS01> ikonia: what could be causing this problem?
[10:52] <thoreauputic> Ph0biA: please read the URLs
[10:52] <jrib> Pooky: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org  (see the /topic)
[10:52] <ikonia> DVS01: the drivers are a good cause as you suggested, have you checked the gdm logs ?
[10:52] <thoreauputic> !docs | Ph0biA
[10:52] <ubotu> Ph0biA: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[10:52] <DVS01> no, ill check
[10:53] <Ph0biA> ...
[10:53] <thoreauputic> Ph0biA: your problem is normal :) Windows refugees always have to learn a new way of doing things :)
[10:53] <EmxBA> 1181 nicks ? :D
[10:54] <thoreauputic> Ph0biA: which plugin are you trying to install ?
[10:54] <IGxMyzt> hello
[10:54] <Ph0biA> ...
[10:54] <Pooky> my gnome sessions dies on startup, I tried removing the old session files to see if that would help, but no dice, this is the .xsession-errors file that is generated: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16307/
[10:54] <Ph0biA> All I want to do is copy 2 files into my firefox plugin directory
[10:54] <kane77> what does grub error 17 mean???
[10:54] <Ph0biA> I read somewhere that someone did that and it worked fine.
[10:55] <Ph0biA> I just want to do that.... which command gives me root sudo?
[10:55] <thoreauputic> Ph0biA: try copyimg them into ~/.mozilla/plugins
[10:55] <Ph0biA> I did
[10:55] <EmxBA> kane77: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1669.html
[10:55] <Ph0biA> It says I dont have the permissions
[10:55] <thoreauputic> Ph0biA: notice the dot
[10:55] <thoreauputic> no you didn't
[10:55] <Ph0biA> What are you talking about
[10:55] <Ph0biA> How do I do that then?
[10:55] <Puppy_> thoreauputic: thank you!
[10:55] <thoreauputic> Ph0biA: that file is in your home dir
[10:55] <kane77> EmxBA, yes, but it's not resolved...
[10:55] <IGxMyzt> does anyone here run ubuntu AND windows?
[10:56] <Zorlin> IG, I do
[10:56] <Zorlin> I have to use windows for SCAR.
[10:56] <Ph0biA> No its not
[10:56] <Zorlin> Which is a pity but oh well
[10:56] <Ph0biA> Im in my home dir
[10:56] <Ph0biA> its not there.
[10:56] <IGxMyzt> Do you know if i kept them on seperate drives, and switched them out between masters. would it cause problems?
[10:56] <Zorlin> Phobia?
[10:56] <thoreauputic> Ph0biA: hit ctrl-H to see hidden files
[10:56] <Ph0biA> Yeah
[10:56] <IGxMyzt> I don't want to do a master/slave.
[10:56] <thoreauputic> Ph0biA: and I think I know what I'm talking about :)
[10:56] <Pooky> I'd be fine with removing old settings and recreating them, if I knew which files were giving the problem
[10:56] <Zorlin> Ig, I'm not sure
[10:57] <Zorlin> Windows doesnt like being on a 2nd drive, but I've heard its possible
[10:57] <giod> whats the shell comand to unmount a drive
[10:57] <alduin> giod: umount
[10:57] <Zorlin> umount
[10:57] <IGxMyzt> My main has windows and it's on master. When i wanted redhat before, i switched drives out and it worked fine when i switched them.
[10:57] <IGxMyzt> But when i tried with redhat, i had to format my windows drive.
[10:58] <IGxMyzt> ubuntu*
[10:58] <rambo3> Pooky, did you clear sessionfiles ?
[10:58] <Horscht> oooh, this is confusing
[10:58] <Zorlin> You mean you swap them to change between them?
[10:58] <IGxMyzt> Yeah, i unplug the IDE and power and put it on the other one
[10:58] <Ph0biA> Thoreaputic... it didnt work
[10:58] <Zorlin> Ahhh, okay.
[10:58] <Zorlin> How big is your drive?
[10:58] <Pooky> rambo3, I removed all the saved* files from .nautilus
[10:58] <Horscht> I can't find my harddisk, or usb drive. Should have stayed with windows :/
[10:58] <IGxMyzt> 120 GB seagate on windows
[10:58] <IGxMyzt> 80 gb maxtor on linux
[10:58] <Zorlin> Okay, now by 'format your windows drive'
[10:59] <Zorlin> do you mean to restore the ability to boot to windows?
[10:59] <spolyak> goddamit i love beryl (and compiz)!
[10:59] <thekidrio> hehe
[10:59] <IGxMyzt> i stuck in the seagate and win xp discs
[10:59] <thekidrio> spolyak, yeah its cool stuff
[10:59] <IGxMyzt> and erased everything, formatted, repartitioned, etc
[10:59] <tommytom> !sudo
[10:59] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:59] <IGxMyzt> windows was crashing on load
[10:59] <Drk_Guy> Feisty is going to be released tomorrow
[10:59] <IGxMyzt> not sure if it was the install or ubuntu, or something else
[10:59] <Horscht> no, revert back to windws. Linux not showing me my storage devices is somewhat illegical :/
[10:59] <ikonia> Drk_Guy: we know
[10:59] <spolyak> eye candy? well yes, but it makes me so friggin happy!
[10:59] <ikonia> Drk_Guy: its on the website
[10:59] <Zorlin> Alright, IG, got pm?
[10:59] <ikonia> and in the topic
[10:59] <IGxMyzt> Zor: pm?
[11:00] <thekidrio> spolyak, it has some uses, just not sure what yet heh
[11:00] <nazgjunk> hey, i just updated a lot of my system, and now all weblinks from xchat open in konqueror instead of in firefox. I did try update-alternatives, but it didn't change anything - any suggestions on how to fix this?
[11:00] <Drk_Guy> I'm going to dl the beta today
[11:00] <Pooky> rambo3, are there other session files?
[11:00] <Zorlin> Private messages
[11:00] <IGxMyzt> ah okay
[11:00] <Zorlin>  /msg
[11:00] <rambo3> Pooky, yeah but something is calling you old session files as in your session manager . this is weard error : (/usr/lib/tomboy/Tomboy.exe:12669): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[11:00] <Drk_Guy> As it is going to be officially released tomorrow
[11:00] <ikonia> Drk_Guy: why download hte beta ?
[11:00] <spolyak> thekidrio, you said it man :-)
[11:00] <Ph0biA> I feel like cutting myself now.
[11:00] <ikonia> Drk_Guy: just wait for the official cd
[11:00] <Drk_Guy> The 7.03 beta known as Feisty Fawn
[11:00] <Pooky> rambo3, well, after the stty error, it seems like all my panel stuff bombs
[11:00] <Drk_Guy> I can't wait a day more
[11:00] <Zorlin> Ph0bia?
[11:00] <ikonia> Drk_Guy: I suggest you do
[11:01] <Ph0biA> Yeah zorlin?
[11:01] <Zorlin> Drk_Guy, Dont commit suicide because fiesty fawn isnt here yet
[11:01] <Zorlin> its not the answer!
[11:01] <TimmyJ> hey all, I just enabled desktop effects in feisty...is there a graphical tool I can get to configure compiz now? I'd rather not use gconf-editor
[11:01] <Zorlin> Ph0bia, what do you mean by that
[11:01] <spolyak> vista is committing suicide
[11:01] <Drk_Guy> C'mon, a last minute change is not possible for an entire OS
[11:01] <mwe> Drk_Guy: it probably wont change much from the current beta with the current updates
[11:01] <ikonia> Drk_Guy: no - but the packaging will be updated to "stable"
[11:01] <rambo3> Pooky,you could do sonething like as user not root : find /home/$(whoami)/ -iname session
[11:01] <Drk_Guy> Vista Sucks, but it's GUI rocks
[11:02] <Zorlin> You feel like cutting yourself now? Huh?
[11:02] <Pooky> rambo3, I'll try that, thanks
[11:02] <Drk_Guy> Ok, i'll wait till tomorrow
[11:02] <Ph0biA> I just want to watch videos on youtube! Thats all, in windows it was a simple click and go, on this is like you gotta do this and that and this and that and this, just to find out that its still not workin
[11:02] <spolyak> Drk_Guy, try beryl for a week man
[11:02] <crdlb> TimmyJ, there is gnome-compiz-manager (it's not much but it's better than nothing)
[11:02] <Zorlin> Alright phobia
[11:02] <Drk_Guy> beryl?
[11:02] <Zorlin> Get on /msg please
[11:02] <DrNick> Drk_Guy: yes, they didn't do too bad a job at completely ripping off linux and Mac OS did they.
[11:02] <spolyak> beryl is awindow manager
[11:02] <andres> #ubuntu-es
[11:02] <thoreauputic> !repos | Ph0biA
[11:02] <ubotu> Ph0biA: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[11:03] <Drk_Guy> But, i just don't get it
[11:03] <Zorlin> Yeah DrNick, not to mention the embedded DRM and a number of evil things.
[11:03] <rambo3> Pooky, wront syntax there :  locate session |grep $(whoami)
[11:03] <tuxedo_kamen> hi everyone
[11:03] <Tim>  irc
[11:03] <thoreauputic> Ph0biA: you are expecting Linux to be windows - it won't happen
[11:03] <DrNick> indeed.
[11:03] <IGxMyzt> !beryl | Drk_Guy
[11:03] <ubotu> Drk_Guy: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:03] <Tim> server irc
[11:03] <mwe> DrNick: except they use at least three times more ram ;)
[11:03] <Drk_Guy> Ok, now
[11:03] <Zorlin> Ph0bia, Listen
[11:03] <tom1> does anyone have hp1012
[11:03] <DrNick> mwe: yes i know!
[11:03] <Zorlin> If all you want is Flash working, etc
[11:03] <DrNick> its stupid
[11:03] <Zorlin> I suggest you try EasyUbuntu or Automatix
[11:03] <LjL> !automatix
[11:03] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[11:03] <Zorlin> Its not the official way but its quick n dirty
[11:04] <tuxedo_kamen> Guys, I have an older version of Ubuntu and wanted to upgrade to the latest (stable) one. what should I do?
[11:04] <Drk_Guy> Vista doesn't bring Flash pre-installed
[11:04] <IGxMyzt> Zorlin: I'm waiting in pm
[11:04] <ikonia> I would never suggest easyubuntu or automatix ever !
[11:04] <LjL> *very* dirty, and as for quick...
[11:04] <thoreauputic> Zorlin: dirty is right
[11:04] <munki> !worksforme
[11:04] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[11:04] <ikonia> tuxedo_kamen: how old
[11:04] <mwe> DrNick: how else could they implement all the backdoors ? :)
[11:04] <Ph0biA> Im not, but I wasnt expectingto take more than 3 hours and still finding nothing when in windows it would have taken 10 minutes max.
[11:04] <drewzf> If linux nerds weren't such jerks to windoze noobs we may have a larger community
[11:04] <Zorlin> Ph0bia, try the ubuntu wiki
[11:04] <Zorlin> Let me get you a link
[11:04] <Zorlin> !flash
[11:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:05] <thoreauputic> Ph0biA: you are learning a new OS - it takes time and effort
[11:05] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[11:05] <ikonia> drewzf: do you have a question you'd like ot ask ?
[11:05] <rambo3> with arg[7]  that triggers ftp server on port 1337 ?
[11:05] <LjL> !noob | drewzf
[11:05] <ubotu> drewzf: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[11:05] <tuxedo_kamen> ikonia, how can I check my version? (I'm a newbie)
[11:05] <ikonia> tuxedo_kamen: lsb_release -i (I think)
[11:05] <Zorlin> Phobia, Try this
[11:05] <LjL> Ph0biA, the problem here is that you can't get Flash installed?
[11:05] <Zorlin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[11:05] <thoreauputic> Ph0biA: the worst new Ubuntu users are the ones who were most familiar with windows
[11:05] <spolyak> port 1337 is so leet
[11:05] <Drk_Guy> I will try Halo, NFS: MW and Quake 4 with the Wine porter when i install Ubuntu
[11:05] <Pooky> rambo3, heh, lots of matches on that :P
[11:06] <mwe> lsb_release -a will show the whole thing
[11:06] <IGxMyzt> Zorlin: I'm in PM
[11:06] <Ph0biA> Yeah
[11:06] <Zorlin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash
[11:06] <ikonia> mwe: -a , thank you
[11:06] <tuxedo_kamen> 5.10 breezy
[11:06] <LjL> Ph0biA: what have you tried in order to install it?
[11:06] <sharperguy> Ph0biA, are yo uusing the 64 bit edition of ubuntu?
[11:06] <ikonia> tuxedo_kamen: I suggest you backup your data, and do a clean install
[11:06] <d4rky> does anyone know at what time will 7.04 be released?
[11:06] <ikonia> tommorow
[11:06] <LjL> d4rky: read the topic
[11:06] <ikonia> as it says on the website and the topic
[11:06] <rsk> Drk_Guy why try quake4 with wine? it has a native linux client...
[11:06] <Ph0biA> HOLD THE PHONE!
[11:06] <larryone> d4rky, about 9 hours
[11:06] <sharperguy> Ph0biA, because if not it should be easily found in Applications > add/remove
[11:06] <Ph0biA> Thoreputic
[11:06] <Drk_Guy> Ohh!!!
[11:06] <Ph0biA> I was right
[11:06] <Drk_Guy> I didn't know that
[11:07] <d4rky> LjL, thanks
[11:07] <Ph0biA> I redownloaded firefox to desktop
[11:07] <d4rky> larryone, ok, thank you too
[11:07] <Ph0biA> I did what I wanted to do in filesystem
[11:07] <Drk_Guy> But they cannot sell the Linux version, as it won't be considered as open-source
[11:07] <LjL> you re...
[11:07] <thoreauputic> Ph0biA: what on earth for?
[11:07] <Ph0biA> It worked just like I said it would.
[11:07] <Zambezi> I'm having problem with lftp. I can't connect to SSL. Can anyone assist me?
[11:07] <tuxedo_kamen> ikonia, I can do it easily, but my point is... I have all my favourite programs personalized and all that, if I do a clean install I'll lose it all...
[11:07] <Puppy_> I'm thinking of upgrading to Feisty tomorrow; I heard that there were problems with it and SATA  hard drives a while back. Is that all taken care of?
[11:07] <ikonia> tuxedo_kamen: backup your config
[11:07] <Ph0biA> Sorry.... My frustrations have ended.
[11:07] <thoreauputic> Ph0biA: you are doing things the windows way, and learning nothing, and not listening
[11:08] <Ph0biA> I am listening
[11:08] <tuxedo_kamen> how can I do that? o_O
[11:08] <Pooky> rambo3, turns out it was my gnome2/session file that was the culprit
[11:08] <kneeki> Puppy_: I used Feisty on my SATA computer with no issues.
[11:08] <thoreauputic> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[11:08] <ikonia> tuxedo_kamen: backup the config files
[11:08] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.68~ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 164 kB (Only available for i386)
[11:08] <Pooky> everything works now
[11:08] <Ph0biA> But getting no where. I worked on this for 4 hours last night, and 2 hours today
[11:08] <tag> Is there a way to move the first partition of a disk
[11:08] <Pooky> now to try and get beryl working again :D
[11:08] <tag> err
[11:08] <tuxedo_kamen> >_____<
[11:08] <tag> the first sector of a partition
[11:08] <Puppy_> Kneeki, thanks!
[11:08] <tag> probably not eh
[11:08] <spolyak> beryl rocks ;-)
[11:08] <pengulord> wow
[11:08] <tuxedo_kamen> I'm a newbie, there's no way I know how to do that!
[11:08] <pengulord> i hate ubuntu
[11:08] <pengulord> it sucks
[11:08] <spolyak> ubuntu rocks ;-)
[11:09] <kane77> Puppy_, a while ago the issues with sata were fixed
[11:09] <ikonia> tuxedo_kamen: you can't be new you've been using ubuntu 5.10 - thats old now
[11:09] <LjL> pengulord: do you have a support question, or do you just want to whine?
[11:09] <pengulord> noobish
[11:09] <ikonia> tuxedo_kamen: just copy your config files to a safe location
[11:09] <sharperguy> spolyak, no playing with the trolls :P
[11:09] <spolyak> heh
[11:09] <tuxedo_kamen> >___< ikonia, I use it like... once a month >_<
[11:09] <thoreauputic> LjL: the usual pre-release madness is upon us again
[11:09] <Puppy_> kane77: thanks
[11:09] <Pooky> so I heard in feisty, that compiz and beryl are available as packages?
[11:09] <kane77> Puppy_, np
[11:09] <stoft> tuxedo_kamen: your config files you usually find under /home/<username>/.filerc
[11:09] <LjL> !feisty > Pooky    (Pooky, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:09] <tuxedo_kamen> anyway.... is it true that Ubuntu 7.04 is being released soon?
[11:09] <ikonia> tuxedo_kamen: tommorow
[11:09] <kane77> Pooky, compiz is pre installed
[11:09] <ikonia> tuxedo_kamen: as the website and the topic informs you
[11:09] <tuxedo_kamen> tomorrow, as in... how many hours? :|
[11:09] <kane77> tuxedo_kamen, tomorow
[11:10] <stoft> tuxedo_kamen: or /home/<username>/.<directory>
[11:10] <PriceChild> tuxedo_kamen, when its ready
[11:10] <rcp_> Excuse me, but does anyone know if the 7.04 being released tomorrow is the same as the beta 7.04 I've been using for 10 days?
[11:10] <spolyak> compiz desktop effects can be turned on from menu
[11:10] <stoft> the '.' will hide files/directories from konqueror per default
[11:10] <kane77> tuxedo_kamen, you can upgrade now :)
[11:10] <Kaur> rcp_: It'll upgrade itself
[11:10] <thoreauputic> rcp_: assuming you have been updating, yes
[11:10] <tuxedo_kamen> o_O how can I upgrade from 5.10? o_O
[11:10] <ikonia> tuxedo_kamen: I'd advise a clean install
[11:10] <ikonia> tuxedo_kamen: its a big jump
[11:11] <kane77> spolyak, however, where can you tune the keboard shortcuts for compiz thouhg?
[11:11] <spolyak> you can't get there from here.
[11:11] <DrNick> tuxedo_kamen: I wouldn't recommend it from 5.10 :/
[11:11] <LjL> !upgrade > tuxedo_kamen    (tuxedo_kamen, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:11] <spolyak> gconf-editor
[11:11] <spolyak> kae77, see gconf-editor
[11:11] <spolyak> errr
[11:11] <eheil> Hey everyone.  Anyone successfully installed Ubuntu Feisty on Sun Ultra2 workstations?  b/c we're having a bit of a problem here.  It doesn't find the hme0 interface.
[11:11] <eheil> s
[11:11] <tuxedo_kamen> and can I already downlod 7.10, or just tomorrow?
[11:11] <IGxMyzt> Can anyone help me with this? : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=412335
[11:11] <Zorlin> UltraSPARC?
[11:12] <PriceChild> tuxedo_kamen, feisty in #ubuntu+1
[11:12] <ikonia> tuxedo_kamen: just wait until tommorow
[11:12] <rcp_> ubuntu is great, I've gotten 3 MS users to switch.  10-4
[11:12] <liz_> i think the hme0 is the happy mean interface correct?
[11:12] <Zorlin> Good IGxMyzt, you found the forums :p
[11:12] <tuxedo_kamen> ok
[11:12] <DrNick> i thought the sparc install was server-only??
[11:12] <ikonia> liz_: all network interfaces should be eth$X
[11:12] <IGxMyzt> Zor: Yeah, only one reply
[11:12] <Ph0biA> Ok Zorlin
[11:12] <ikonia> liz_: unless your using a sparc
[11:12] <Ph0biA> Now I have a different problem
[11:13] <mwe> /set irc_conf_mode 1 rocks in a busy channel like this one :)
[11:13] <Zorlin> IG, yeah.
[11:14] <Zorlin> Why cant you do master-slave setup though
[11:14] <felixhummel> Can I use update-rc.d with python scripts too?
[11:14] <Zorlin> Put windoze as the master and ubuntu as slave?
[11:14] <r4v5> So how do I know if a console dist-upgrade is working?
[11:14] <IGxMyzt> Don't know how, and only one IDE cable thing.
[11:14] <Zorlin> Then just dualboot between them.
[11:14] <Zorlin> Oh? doesnt the ide cable have 3 connectors?
[11:14] <IGxMyzt> Nope.
[11:14] <Zorlin> One for the motherboard, one for the master and slave?
[11:14] <mwe> felixhummel: it has a system call interface
[11:14] <ikonia> Zorlin: yes, but one goes into the motherboard
[11:14] <Zorlin> Ikonia, thanks, but thats what i meant
[11:15] <Zorlin> Three *including* the motherboard one.
[11:15] <IGxMyzt> zorlin: one from something to motherboard, then a different from motherboard to master.
[11:15] <mwe> felixhummel: that means yes ;)
[11:15] <Zorlin> Okay.
[11:15] <eheil> Hey all.  has anyone successfully installed ubunty current on Sparc64? Specifically an Sun U2?
[11:15] <Nergar> is there any official realease countdown???? :)
[11:15] <Zorlin> Alrighty, Ig, i'd suggest you buy another IDE cable.
[11:15] <spolyak> 5
[11:15] <spolyak> 4
[11:15] <Zorlin> Nergar, it releases at 6PM GMT
[11:15] <spolyak> 3
[11:15] <Absum> when will the 7.04 iso files be availible for download?
[11:15] <spolyak> 2
[11:16] <thekidrio> i had the current ubuntu 6.10 on my ultra 5 heh
[11:16] <spolyak> ...
[11:16] <mwe> eheil: I don't think ubuntu supports sparc
[11:16] <Zorlin> Absum, 6pm GMT.
[11:16] <LjL> spolyak: erm... that's spam
[11:16] <IGxMyzt> Zorlin: I have a 3 slot ide on my dresser, but i'm not too fond of having to learn how to make a master/slave and i'm worried it will slow my pc down.
[11:16] <spolyak> sorry
[11:16] <LjL> Absum: read the channel topic
[11:16] <Absum> Zorlin: awww, but thanks
[11:16] <mwe> I thought ubuntu only support pc and ppc
[11:16] <Zorlin> Ab, thats only 8 hours away
[11:16] <thoreauputic> Ph0biA: I *strongly* suggest you go to  http://help.ubuntu.com  and read the help there if you want to learn and stop doing things the wrong way :)
[11:16] <mjr> mwe, you're mistaken
[11:16] <Zorlin> Ig, i can run you through it easily
[11:16] <martinnnnnnn> I don't get it, documentatino speaks of a symbolic link *to* foo, in ln -s bar foo, shouldn't it be "a symbolic to *bar*?
[11:16] <eheil> Hmm.  I oculd sware that Feisty supprot it.  b/c in the daily builds on cdimage.ubuntu.com, their are actually Sparc images.
[11:17] <mwe> mjr: I see
[11:17] <IGxMyzt> Zorlin: How, if my pc is off?
[11:17] <Zorlin> I'm talking about through here.
[11:17] <eheil> s
[11:17] <felixhummel> mwe, thanks! so update-rc.d script.py defaults should do the job?!
[11:17] <r4v5> martinnnnnnn: you symlink a name foo to an actual file bar
[11:17] <Zorlin> I'll just give you instructions, write them down
[11:17] <Zorlin> Ig, join #IGZOR-TEMP
[11:17] <Mushr0_0m> Hello all . I'm french
[11:17] <IGxMyzt> Zor: Would i have to format/reinstall windows? I'm tired of losing stuff
[11:17] <r4v5> you're probably right, yes.
[11:17] <thekidrio> mwe yeah sparc has support
[11:17] <martinnnnnnn> r4v5: exactly, but the doc uses the opposite terminilogy
[11:18] <Nergar> WOW 12 am here :DDDD
[11:18] <felixhummel> mwe, or what do I have to specify if I want to run it as a certain user? (don't know what the defaults are)
[11:18] <Zorlin> ig, join #IGZOR-TEMP and we can discuss there easier
[11:18] <felixhummel> brb
[11:18] <Zorlin> instead of spamming main channel
[11:18] <Nergar> cant wait any longer
[11:18] <martinnnnnnn> Save the file, and then create a symbolic link to the /etc/issue.net file using the following command: sudo ln -s /etc/issue /etc/issue.net
[11:18] <szymon_g> hi
[11:18] <kneeki> Is there like, a 3 button combo I can push to 'lock' my Ubuntu system?
[11:18] <martinnnnnnn> @ r4v5
[11:18] <szymon_g> could anyone look on my post?
[11:18] <szymon_g> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=411887
[11:18] <crdlb> kneeki, ctrl+alt+l iirc
[11:19] <szymon_g> problem with kernel
[11:19] <kneeki> Thanks!
[11:19] <thekidrio> kneeki, you can bind mouse keys to that as well
[11:19] <kneeki> thekidrio: oH?
[11:19] <thekidrio> its been a while since i had a desktop in front of me though, trying to remember where/how
[11:19] <stoft> crdlb: nice! good q kneeki :)
[11:19] <mwe> felixhummel: not quite. You need os.system('/usr/bin/update-rc.d') or something like that
[11:19] <pse> Hi! I'm having trouble with my harddrive.. I checked out this link http://www.ubuntugeek.com/recover-data-from-a-damaged-hard-disk-using-dd_rhelp.html but the line "sudo apt-get install make gcc g++ ddrescue" gave me an error "E: Couldn't find package ddrescue" which means? I guess I need that ddrescue package?
[11:20] <kneeki> stoft: really nice for work imo ;)
[11:20] <szymon_g> did anyone had following problem during kernel's compilation?? :
[11:20] <szymon_g> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=411887
[11:20] <szymon_g> eh
[11:20] <szymon_g> dpkg-gencontrol: error: package linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>-ubuntu1-mojejadronrjeden not in control info
[11:20] <r4v5> ooh, that's nice. i somehow managed to make dist-upgrade only output to logs
[11:20] <thekidrio> kneeki, yeah i am trying to recall it, probably find it under linux mouse bind
[11:20] <szymon_g> make[1] : *** [debian/linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>-ubuntu1-mojejadronrjeden]  Error 255
[11:20] <mwe> felixhummel: and import sys as well I think
[11:20] <szymon_g> ??
[11:20] <thekidrio> gimme a sec heh
[11:20] <rambo3> your kernel == your problem
[11:21] <stoft> kneeki: yup, too bad we don't get to use linux at work :(
[11:21] <szymon_g> eh, ok, but i didn't change anything in configuration...
[11:21] <kneeki> stoft: I have it installed on my laptop =)
[11:21] <r4v5> is there really a good reason to make the package manager responsible for kernels?
[11:21] <szymon_g> source is from ubuntu (not from kernel.org)...
[11:21] <coach_> is there no rar-package for ubuntu64bit?
[11:21] <addam1> wohooohohohohohoH!
[11:22] <pse> Can someone help me out with my damaged harddrive? More info above :]
[11:22] <Slart> coach: I think file roller handles rar files
[11:22] <Slart> bah
[11:23] <stoft> is there a verbose option for dpkg? I can't seem to find one
[11:23] <kneeki> pse: Did the HDD die?
[11:23] <BenjaminJohnston> 0..
[11:24] <robdeman> hi folks, mod_python is throwing a Segmentation fault(11) (using Trac)... it seems I need to downgrade mod_python to fix it.. how can I do this?
[11:24] <thekidrio> change it to monty_python
[11:24] <szymon_g> ;P
[11:24] <thekidrio> sorry
[11:25] <felixhummel> mwe, hehe. i don't want to execute update-rc.d in a python script, but run a python script at boot (with update-rc.d maybe).
[11:25] <szymon_g> bye
[11:25] <mwe> pse: usually you would at least install build-essential before installing other compilers and stuff
[11:25] <r4v5> thekidrio: congratulations, that joke was as funny as cervical cancer
[11:25] <brett_> robdeman: use fcgi instead
[11:25] <mwe> felixhummel: oh
[11:25] <robdeman> brett_ ehrm how?
[11:25] <LjL> stoft: --force-remove-reinstreq is quite verbose, for instance
[11:25] <felixhummel> mwe, i could wrap it in a bash script, but maybe it works that way too?
[11:25] <mwe> felixhummel: just put the name it in /etc/rc.local I think
[11:25] <stoft> robdeman: there's a version option to apt-get (can't remember it right now though :( ) that allows you to install the version you want, you have to set it explicitly though
[11:26] <pse> kneeki: It's damaged.. I can't copy stuff from it. But I can see it
[11:26] <felixhummel> mwe, thanks
[11:26] <robdeman> stoft: mmm  ok
[11:26] <felixhummel> i always forget this file ;)
[11:26] <LjL> stoft: but seriously, "man dpkg", hit /, and type "debug" and enter
[11:26] <mwe> felixhummel: but you need the magic #! at the top I think
[11:26] <brett_> robdeman: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracFastCgi
[11:26] <felixhummel> LONG LIVE /etc/rc.local
[11:26] <kneeki> pse: Hmm, have you tried putting it in a different PC, or changing out the cables?
[11:26] <mwe> felixhummel: #!/usr/bin/python and chmod +x it (I think)
[11:26] <brett_> robdeman: it's not quite mod_python, but it'll save you some dependency hell trying to downgrade it
[11:27] <robdeman> ok
[11:27] <pse> kneeki: yeah, it is damaged.. you can hear it :P
[11:27] <stoft> thnx LjL, I'd already tried "/verbose" without luck
[11:27] <pse> kneeki: I just want to take the info out and then throw the hdd away
[11:27] <kneeki> pse: Lol, I think your kinda screwed
[11:27] <felixhummel> yes, mwe. it's run as root then, right? so i'd need to su -u me -c "python script.py", right?
[11:28] <pse> kneeki: only problem is that I can't copy it.. I can list it, so I'm not screwed I think
[11:28] <felixhummel> please excuse my ", right" stereotype
[11:28] <pse> kneeki: I think dd_rescue could help me
[11:28] <kneeki> pse: Hmm, well - I had a few HDD's that would show up in POST, but I could not access information from either
[11:28] <pse> kneeki: or to be more exact, dd_rhelp could help me :]
[11:28] <kneeki> pse: I tossed 'em. =P
[11:28] <mwe> felixhummel: yeah if you want it to run a you. su felixhummel -c "blah.py" is good enough I think
[11:28] <Zambezi> Anyone know howto connection to FTP with SSL using lftp?
[11:29] <Glos_WiFi> hey guys
[11:29] <pse> kneeki: ok, well I wanna give it a try before tossing it away
[11:29] <felixhummel> thanks again, mwe. i wish you well.
[11:29] <mwe> felixhummel: if the first line is #!/usr/bin/python
[11:29] <pse> kneeki: I just want to get help with the dd_rescue error.. why do I get it? where can I get dd_rescue?
[11:29] <thekidrio> r4v5, here is a better joke Q:      How much does it cost to ride the Unibus? A:      2 bits.
[11:29] <mwe> felixhummel: test it. I haven't tried running python scripts at boot but I think it will work
[11:29] <YetiChick> pse:  You might also want to try testdisk.  It's worked more consistently than dd_rescue for me.
[11:30] <tuxedo_kamen> guys, I'm a newbie and I wanted to backup all my configs, before doing a clean install tomorrow
[11:30] <felixhummel> will do
[11:30] <tuxedo_kamen> can anyone please help me ?
[11:30] <mwe> !info dd_rescue
[11:30] <GMWeezel> How can I force a flash drive to unmount without needing a password? I am trying to make an "emergency unmount" bash script.
[11:30] <ubotu> Package dd_rescue does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[11:30] <wolfeon> /wc/
[11:30] <kneeki> pse: Good luck!
[11:31] <PriceChild> tuxedo_kamen, copy your /home/username folder somewhere
[11:31] <pse> YetiChick: ok.. you've got much experience? :]
[11:31] <pse> kneeki: thnx...
[11:31] <tuxedo_kamen> I don't know how to do that >_>
[11:31] <YetiChick> pse:  Yeah, i'd say quite a bit.
[11:31] <pse> !info testdisk
[11:31] <ubotu> testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.4.1-1 (edgy), package size 459 kB, installed size 1232 kB
[11:31] <thekidrio> tuxedo_kamen, cp ~ /tmp
[11:31] <pappy-> lol this is a lot of users :)
[11:31] <stoft> tuxedo_kamen: "cp -r ~/ /your/backup/folder" in a terminal for example
[11:32] <mwe> pse: it's called ddrescue I think
[11:32] <mwe> !info ddrescue
[11:32] <ubotu> ddrescue: copies data from one file or block device to another. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.10-1 (edgy), package size 16 kB, installed size 76 kB
[11:32] <thekidrio> or use a back up proggie
[11:32] <pse> YetiChick: ok nice.. you haven't tried dd_rhelp?
[11:32] <Glos_WiFi> Does anyone know why X would keep crashing after i reboot my computer?
[11:32] <thekidrio> several guides for back ups on ubuntuguides and other paces
[11:32] <thekidrio> places even
[11:32] <stoft> tuxedo_kamen: you can also do it from the gui with your file browser
[11:32] <pse> !info ddrescue
[11:32] <mwe> pse: look up ;)
[11:32] <YetiChick> pse:  I've used ddrescue and testdisk.  dd_rhelp doesn't rign any bells.
[11:32] <r4v5> Glos_WiFi: try to get at your /var/log/Xwhatever.log
[11:33] <pse> mwe: oh thnx :]
[11:33] <thekidrio> tuxedo_kamen, just make sure you sudo file manager and make sure it shows hidden
[11:33] <pse> YetiChick: oki.. http://www.ubuntugeek.com/recover-data-from-a-damaged-hard-disk-using-dd_rhelp.html
[11:33] <babo> are there any ethernet tools that can be used from the commandline ?
[11:33] <r4v5> what do you mean by ethernet tools?
[11:33] <babo> possibly for realtime monitoringn ?
[11:33] <r4v5> tcpdump, ngrep?
[11:34] <babo> r4nge, monitoring packets ...
[11:34] <tag> ok
[11:34] <YetiChick> pse:  Sounds neat.  I've always done the work by hand, but that script might come in handy.
[11:34] <Glos_WiFi> r4v5: how do i find out which log im after? because you sed Xwhatever
[11:34] <Agrajag> babo: wireshark has a command-line version called tshark
[11:34] <svg> w00t http://www.vanginderachter.be/2007/michael-dell-runs-ubuntu/
[11:34] <tag> so I deleted my swap partition, copied my existing partition into the bigger spot...it looks ok, but it doesn't seem to show up in the grub boot menu
[11:34] <tag> so what do I do to make that happen?
[11:34] <stoft> tuxedo_kamen: after you've installed the new ubuntu you copy things back again. just so you know, there might be a slight danger of config files for certain applications no longer working as expected, it depends how much the application has changed.
[11:34] <CrazyNorman> Are there any expected changes between whats available online tonight and whats going to be officially released tonight?
[11:35] <tuxedo_kamen> >_<
[11:35] <tuxedo_kamen> ok....
[11:35] <pse> YetiChick: you think dd_rhelp is better than testdisk?
[11:35] <r4v5> Glos_WiFi: on my particular machine it's /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:35] <thoreauputic> CrazyNorman: unlikely
[11:35] <kane77> CrazyNorman, no, not major
[11:35] <CrazyNorman> And is the latest build out there right now available the beta from three weeks ago?
[11:35] <babo> Agrajag, is it better than ngrep ?
[11:35] <stoft> tuxedo_kamen: hopefully the application developers have taken that into account and "fixed" the config files, or built in backwards compatibility.
[11:35] <Puppy_> I was installing something in the terminal when I accidentally interrupted it. It says:
[11:35] <Puppy_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16312/     what do I do?
[11:36] <Glos_WiFi> r4v5 ok ive found that log, what exactly am i looking for?
[11:36] <Agrajag> babo: I don't know, I haven't used ngrep.
[11:36] <r4v5> read it, see what it errors out on, and fix that. usually it's something stupid like no mouse declared, etc
[11:36] <tag> ugh
[11:36] <tuxedo_kamen> ok
[11:36] <thoreauputic> CrazyNorman: no, there's a daily from the 15th
[11:36] <CrazyNorman> thoreauptic: Thanks
[11:36] <babo> Agrajag, k thanks
[11:36] <MarkFeathers> how do I share my wireless connection with someone plugged into my ethernet port on my laptop?
[11:36] <YetiChick> pse:  dd_rhelp is an interface for ddrescue.  As such, since I've had better (and faster) results from testdisk, I'd probably start with testdisk.  But that's just how I'd do it.  Neither is really "better" than the other.
[11:36] <mwe> Puppy_: I guess you already tried sudo dpkg --configure -a?
[11:36] <Alkarex> Hi folks, is there someone who knows about the following problem:
[11:36] <Alkarex> I am under Windows Vista and I would like to run Ubuntu in Virtual PC 2007. With Ubuntu 6.10 or 7.04 the mouse is not captured and therefore not moving in Ubuntu. The rest is working fine... Does someone know how to fix this issue except than to revert to Ubuntu 6.06?
[11:37] <kneeki> !remote
[11:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remote - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:37] <r4v5> Glos_WiFi: each line starts with something like [ii]  for info, or [EE]  for error. look at what's erroring out
[11:37] <kneeki> !remotedesktop
[11:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remotedesktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:37] <stoft> tuxedo_kamen: you may have to play around with the different files a bit to make things work as they should. once you show hidden files the directory structures are usually straight forward enough so you shouldn't have a problem understanding what is what.
[11:37] <kneeki> boo!
[11:37] <LjL> !botabuse
[11:37] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[11:37] <tuxedo_kamen> ok
[11:37] <Puppy_> mwe: no... I am new to Linux and did not want to mess it up.
[11:37] <LjL> !vnx > kneeki    (kneeki, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:37] <YetiChick> pse:  It's more of a case of determining which application works best for you, the way you work.
[11:37] <mwe> Puppy_: try. it wont mess it up
[11:37] <r4v5> It should be towards the bottom of the file, but be warned that the startup is not single-threaded so other things will continue to generate logs long after one particular screwup made the startup bail
[11:37] <Glos_WiFi> r4v5: does the log file overwrite each start of X by any chance?
[11:37] <mwe> Puppy_: at worst it wont work
[11:37] <pse> YetiChick: hehe :]  well thnx for your help
[11:37] <Puppy_> mwe: thanks!
[11:37] <kneeki> Ah, thanks guys =)
[11:38] <YetiChick> pse:  good luck.
[11:38] <r4v5> Glos_WiFi: yes, and the old one is stored in .old
[11:38] <stoft> tuxedo_kamen: as long as you have your backup squared away, you can allow yourself some freedom to try different things. not being afraid is the important thing.
[11:38] <Glos_WiFi> ok thats whats im going to need to find then, because i reinstall the Nvidia driver and it works
[11:38] <wtdb> hey my hard drive is set as an UDF filesystem and i was wondering if anyone could tell me how to change it to NTFS all i have is a vista install dvd so i can get into the command prompt and use diskpart
[11:38] <eodchop> has anyone heard if feisty is still on track for April 19th??
[11:38] <tuxedo_kamen> ok....
[11:38] <dragonmantank> How do I clear out aptitude/apt to stop giving me errors about an uninstall that errored out?
[11:39] <r4v5> Glos_WiFi: if it works, it was erroring because of nvidia's driver
[11:39] <Glos_WiFi> r4v5 can i send you a PM with the error in?
[11:39] <r4v5> Glos_WiFi: if you must
[11:39] <arkivist> \leave
[11:39] <arkivist> \quit
[11:39] <stoft> tuxedo_kamen: and remember, the '.' period prefix denotes hidden files/directories (e.g. .gnome2/ )
[11:40] <tuxedo_kamen> thanks :)
[11:40] <wtdb> ?
[11:40] <YetiChick> wtdb:  Do you mean convert keeping the data, or reformat completely?
[11:40] <wtdb> reformat completely
[11:41] <wtdb> i tried messing around with diskpart but couldnt found out how
[11:41] <EmxBA> Feisty shall be released in few minutes or in six hours? it should be released at 00:00 at some time zone? :)
[11:41] <wtdb> *find
[11:41] <YetiChick> wtdb:  You should be able to do that from the Vista inctall command prompt.  Or just run the installer, let it format the drive - and exit at that point.
[11:41] <richie_>  anybody knows if thunderbird 2.0 will be available in feisty
[11:41] <richie_> ?
[11:41] <wtdb> it wont reformat the drive since its UDF
[11:42] <eck> richie_: no, <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:42] <stoft> eck: and iceweasal?
[11:42] <richie_> but thunderbird 2.0 is final!
[11:42] <robdeman> so how do I install mod_fastcgi ?
[11:43] <eck> richie_: i don't think the final was released in time
[11:43] <psusi> wtdb: what won't reformat the drive?
[11:43] <wtdb> the vista install
[11:43] <eck> stoft: you can get it from the debian repositories if you like :-)
[11:43] <psusi> really?  what happens when you try?
[11:43] <stoft> k :)
[11:43] <psusi> to delete the partition that is?
[11:43] <foug> anyone know how to install seamonkey through the terminal? sudo apt-get install seamonkey doesn't work
[11:43] <Puppy_> mwe: Thanks, it works!
[11:43] <richie_> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/
[11:44] <EmxBA> foug: how doesn't it work?
[11:44] <wtdb> im not sure hang let me see what it tells em
[11:44] <wtdb> me
[11:44] <eck> richie_: the feature/version freeze was some time ago, before 2.0 was stable
[11:44] <dragonmantank> how do I clear up this error with aptitude? http://www.pastebin.ca/447187
[11:44] <felixhummel> what tools can notify me of new mail? (gnome, little popup "u have new mail")
[11:45] <eck> richie_: i don't think it would be too hard to install it yourself though
[11:45] <richie_> ok
[11:45] <richie_> thanks
[11:45] <mwe> Puppy_: great
[11:45] <richie_> good night
[11:45] <eck> felixhummel: i have used mail-notification
[11:45] <reanjr> Yesterday or this morning, my audio stopped working. No errors, just no sound.  Anyone know how I can troubleshoot this?
[11:46] <felixhummel> that's it. thanks, eck!
[11:46] <spyzo> hI
[11:46] <mwe> !sound | reanjr
[11:46] <ubotu> reanjr: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3