[05:04] <Kilos> morning superfly and others
[05:04] <superfly> morning Kilos
[05:06] <nlsthzn> o/ Kilos , superfly
[05:18] <Kilos> hey nlsthzn what happened to nlsthzn_work
[05:19] <nlsthzn> I go tired of writing it... seeing as I am basically always here :'(
[05:25] <nuvolari> o/ morning oom Kilos, superfly, nlsthzn
[05:25] <Kilos> lo nuvolari
[05:26] <Kilos> oh nlsthzn its not an auto name
[05:27] <Kilos> like whn i use fone then i am kilos-mobi i think
[05:28] <nlsthzn> I have to log in as nlsthzn to "log-in"... afterwards I can change it (my nick is regestered and I have ops in one channel and now also a cloak for another)
[05:29] <Kilos> lol ok
[05:30] <Kilos> i use my cloak to keep warm in winter
[05:30] <Kilos> hehe
[05:42] <nlsthzn> :)
[06:03] <nuvolari> lol
[07:08] <Kilos> hi Sinjin
[07:09] <Sinjin> hi
[07:09] <Sinjin> weird
[07:12] <Kilos> lol
[07:16] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[07:16]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[07:17] <Kilos> Maaz, with milk
[07:17] <Maaz> Yay Kilos You aren't one of those skinny guys that needs to drink black coffee to cast a shadow
[07:20] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[07:21] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[07:21] <Maaz> Enjoy Kilos
[07:21] <Kilos> hi morgs
[07:21] <morgs> morning Kilos
[07:39] <superfly> hiya morgs
[07:42] <morgs> hey superfly and *
[07:43] <superfly> morgs: I have a Django question for you, if you have a few minutes
[07:44] <morgs> superfly: give me a few moments - just reconfiguring a server while on the phone :)
[07:45] <superfly> morgs: sure, not a problem
[08:13] <inetpro> good mornings
[08:14] <Kilos> morning inetpro
[08:14] <nlsthzn> o/ inetpro
[08:14] <inetpro> Maaz: coffee please
[08:14] <Maaz> inetpro: There isn't a pot on
[08:14] <inetpro> Maaz: coffee please
[08:14] <Maaz> inetpro: There isn't a pot on
[08:15] <inetpro> Maaz: coffee now please
[08:15] <Maaz> inetpro: Go get it yourself!
[08:15] <inetpro> ok
[08:15] <Kilos> lol
[08:15] <Kilos> cheeky bot
[08:15] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee time
[08:15] <Maaz> It is always coffee time!
[08:16] <magespawn> good day all
[08:16] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[08:16]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[08:16] <Kilos> big lag today
[08:16] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[08:16] <magespawn> we getting coffee?
[08:17] <Kilos> yeah
[08:17] <Kilos> ask the bot quick
[08:18] <magespawn> how?
[08:18] <Kilos> coffee please
[08:19] <magespawn> Maaz, coffee  please
[08:19] <Maaz> magespawn: Yessir
[08:20] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos and magespawn!
[08:20] <magespawn> thank you Maaz
[08:20] <magespawn> Maaz, thank you
[08:20] <Maaz> magespawn: No problem
[08:21] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[08:21] <Maaz> Enjoy Kilos
[08:21] <Kilos> Maaz, and rusks
[08:21] <Maaz> I hid them away Kilos Pm me and I'll tell you where they are
[08:21] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[08:21] <Maaz> Enjoy Kilos
[08:21]  * Kilos dunks my ouma's
[08:27] <magespawn> whats up? besides coffee.
[08:28] <Kilos> no change from yesterday
[08:28] <Kilos> we wait to hear if kbmonkey arrived in capetown
[08:45] <superfly> so, now even the False Bay shark has a Twitter account... http://twitter.com/falsebayshark
[08:45] <nlsthzn> everybody is getting social
[08:53] <magespawn> howdy all
[08:53] <magespawn> have just found this https://www.tizen.org/
[09:03] <inetpro> hmm... Symmetria: something major wrong with za.archive.ubuntu.com?
[09:27] <inetpro> what other archive alternatives do we have in za land?
[10:20] <Owkkuri> inetpro: you can try use webafrica's repo too i guess
[10:27] <morgs> There might be a repo at IS
[10:29] <tumbleweed> IS has one: mirror.is.co.za There's also ubuntu.saix.net, ftp.wa.co.za, ftp.sun.ac.za, ftp.leg.uct.ac.za, ftp.up.ac.za and probably others I can' tthink of right now
[10:29] <tumbleweed> za.archive is often broken, but AFAIK it's in good shape right now
[10:30] <tumbleweed> oh, ftp.wa syncs from it (and very badly), so when mirror.ac.za is broken, they are too
[10:30] <morgs> I don't see ubuntu archive on mirror.is.co.za, just release images
[10:30] <tumbleweed> hrm, I thought they did
[10:31] <tumbleweed> http://mirror.is.co.za/linux/distributions/ubuntu/archive/ubuntu/
[10:31] <morgs> ah
[10:31] <morgs> and a mirror of ftp.ubuntu.com (!)
[10:31] <tumbleweed> yeah, they have a rather old mirror layout
[12:18] <Kilos> is the problem staying connected to xmpp my pidgin or is it google guys
[12:20] <Kilos> only google accounts keep cutting off not msn or mxit or aim
[12:29] <nlsthzn> This is
[12:29] <nlsthzn> :/
[12:29] <nlsthzn> GMAIL seems OK this side of the globe
[12:30] <Kilos> eish ty nlsthzn
[12:30] <Kilos> does it work via pidgin or empathy or only if you browse to there
[12:31] <nlsthzn> @work so only in browser at the moment...
[12:31] <Kilos> i dont even know where to start looking for a bug
[12:31] <nlsthzn> Can be on gmail's side... many servers...
[13:01] <inetpro> Kilos: just try disabling your OTR plugin and check again... IIRC I've had issues with OTR enabled in the past but I could be wrong... worth a try
[13:02] <Kilos> ty inetpro
[13:03] <inetpro> Maaz: have coffee for me now?
[13:03] <Maaz> inetpro: Huh?
[13:03] <inetpro> Maaz: coffee on
[13:03]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[13:03] <inetpro> Maaz: maak gou
[13:03] <Maaz> inetpro: Excuse me?
[13:03] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[13:03] <Maaz> Kilos: Sure
[13:04] <Kilos> Maaz, hurry
[13:04] <Maaz> Hey! Kilos Patience is a virtue,
[13:06] <Kilos> Maaz, virtue
[13:06] <Maaz> Virtue is a grace
[13:06] <Kilos> Maaz, grace
[13:06] <Maaz> A naughty little brat that would'nt wash her face
[13:13] <inetpro> Maaz: thank you kindly
[13:13] <Maaz> sure thing, inetpro
[13:15] <inetpro> hmm... google can see http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ just fine
[13:15] <inetpro> http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=en&tl=af&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fza.archive.ubuntu.com%2F
[13:16] <superfly> inetpro: I can't reach it on MWEB either
[13:35] <magespawn> superfly me neither
[13:37] <inetpro> hmm.. so we have apartheid in the intertubes?
[13:38] <inetpro> so who is black and who is white?
[13:38] <magespawn> google finds it though
[13:38] <Vhata> clever routing is not the same as discrimination based on race
[13:40] <magespawn> is this clever routing or is something broken?
[13:40] <inetpro> Vhata: ok I was just joking :-)
[13:40] <Vhata> magespawn: well, it's clever routing to serve content to people from the network closest to them
[13:41] <Vhata> magespawn: a side-effect of that is that when something goes wrong on one of the networks, the people on that network stop seeing the content, but the rest of the internet can still see it fine, because they're being served the content from elsewhere
[13:41] <magespawn> i understand Vhata
[13:42] <magespawn> the next question is: what has gone wrong and where?
[13:45] <Vhata> magespawn: some traceroutes from locations that are affected and locations that aren't will tell you that
[13:58] <magespawn> later all home time
[14:35] <Chat8013> hi
[14:35] <Kilos> hi Chat8013
[14:46] <Kilos> how can these guys just mail me and say you are subscribed
[14:46] <Kilos> Aéropostale<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[14:46] <Kilos> i have no idea who they are even
[14:47] <Squirm> it happens
[14:48] <Kilos> getting like all the fools on cellphones that say you are subscribed at R5 a day
[14:48] <Squirm> yeah, they're allowed to legally do that :/ but it's changing
[14:48] <Kilos> then it costs you as sms to unsubscribe but they take the first R5 anyway
[14:49] <Squirm> yeah :/
[14:49] <Squirm> anyways, I'll bbl
[14:50] <Kilos> lets hope it changes. most of my family have lost money to them
[14:50] <Kilos> cheers Squirm
[15:01] <Chat9570> hi
[15:01] <Kilos> hi Chat9570
[15:02] <Chat9570> hi are u Kilos
[15:02] <Kilos> well ty and you
[15:02] <Kilos> yes i am
[15:02] <Chat9570> am new here
[15:03] <Kilos> are you an ubuntu user Chat9570
[15:03] <Chat9570> I don't know how everything works
[15:04] <Kilos> what can we help you with
[15:04] <Chat9570> now am just browzing gruops
[15:05] <Chat9570> lean how it works
[15:05] <Kilos> this is the ubuntu linux help channel
[15:05] <Kilos> toodles
[15:06] <Kilos> hi t0kol0sh3
[15:06] <Kilos> you live under beds?
[15:10]  * inetpro lol
[15:16] <t0kol0sh3> only on the weekends
[15:16] <Kilos> hehe
[15:18] <Kilos> lol
[15:18] <Kilos> welcome yo ubuntu-za t0kol0sh3
[15:22] <t0kol0sh3> so do you use ubuntu at home, work or both ?
[15:22] <Kilos> i am only at home
[19:22] <Kilos> whew no one got anything to say
[19:22] <Kilos> Maaz, hello
[19:22]  * Maaz waves to Kilos
[19:25] <superfly> Kilos: no, not really... I'm *really* busy
[19:25] <superfly> tomorrow is going to be one hectic day
[19:26] <Kilos> sorry superfly
[19:26] <Kilos> again?
[19:27] <Kilos> thats why you dont get better
[19:27] <Kilos> no recovery time
[19:28] <superfly> oom, everything is happening at once at the moment
[19:28] <superfly> and what's worse is that tomorrow is a sort of deadline
[19:28] <Kilos> eish
[19:28] <Kilos> good luck then superfly
[19:29] <Kilos> i hope it slows down a bit next week
[19:34] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight


 ChatGPT (re @IrcsomeBot: <IanC> after hours of googling I still can't find an answer. Any suggestions?)
[12:47] <fusion1181> I asked ChatGPT for help with plasma-discover not launching and it had 7 suggestions for getting it to work and then said to ask for assistance from the KDE support community
[13:06] <weedmic> fusion1181: that would be #kde fusion1181
[13:06] <weedmic> but here is a command you can do to reset kde "killall plasmashell;plasmashell > /dev/null 2>&1 &"
[13:09] <fusion1181> weedmic: Thank you
 I will getting this error on command - sudo apt-get update =E: The repository 'https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/alexlarsson/flatpak/ubuntu lunar Release' does not have a Release file.
 N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.
 N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details.
[14:47] <oerheks> Anuj check before adding a PPA; this one has no candidates for Lunar
[14:47] <oerheks> https://launchpad.net/~alexlarsson/+archive/ubuntu/flatpak
[14:47] <oerheks> !info flatpak
[14:47] <oerheks> use this one
 can i get step to do that ?
[14:51] <oerheks> just remove that PPA in your update setting?
[14:51] <oerheks> it never installed any package anyway
 i'm beginner in linux and that is my first os, so could you simplify that step?
[14:54] <oerheks> start muon,  Settings > Configure Software Sources
[14:54] <oerheks> muon, or discover..
 muon
[16:54] <demon_blade> anyone know what to do... my system is not booting not I can access the UEFI boot menu  https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/l5zozuP4/irccloudcapture3426814486953677248.jpg
[16:55] <tomreyn> didn't you run intot the same issue like 3 weeks ago? or is it still the same issue?
[16:55] <tomreyn> or again?
[17:06] <demon_blade> No no it's a new issue.😭
[17:06] <tomreyn> but the same hardware? so what happened in between?
[17:06] <demon_blade> I am switching to tuxedo ... Laptop... That's how I can end my suffering.. that's the only option.. I already ordered.
[17:07] <tomreyn> so you're no longer looking for support with this?
[17:08] <demon_blade> Yep.... No longer.. suffering... But I will use kubuntu.. in that as well.
[17:08] <tomreyn> sorry to hear that, good luck with the next one.
[18:51] <fusion1181> restarted with a previous kernel and everything now works without issue. Not sure what settings are in the new kernel that are conflicting under 23.04.
[22:05] <thecuttlefish> Question if anyone knows: Is it normal for the KDE Connect Widget to go into Edit Mode when you click on the hamburger button next to your device name? It's kind of annoying, so I'd imagine something isn't set up properly.
[22:16] <valorie> hamburger menus are usually for settings, no?
[22:19] <thecuttlefish> This hamburger button is to access a drop down menu of controls for the other device.


[14:52] <NCommander> lamont, you around?
[14:52] <lamont> yeah
[14:52] <NCommander> lamont, question, what does it take to get a new port of Ubuntu off the ground so the speak
[14:52] <NCommander> (in an official way)
[14:53] <lamont> hardware for the DC, and a working bootstrap world, plus people working on it
[14:53] <lamont> at a minimum
[14:55] <NCommander> lamont, see PM :-)
[19:40] <jbailey> NCommander, Awww.  You're not gonna share?
[19:41] <jbailey> lamont, You forgot the critical bits of overcoming James' hatred for the port and convincing kernel + toolchain people that you're not a muppet.
[19:43] <lamont> jbailey: that was encapsulated in the "at a minimum" :-p
[19:44] <jbailey> lamont, You left out the hardest part.
[19:44] <jbailey> Otherwise we'd have m68k already, wouldn't we? =)
[19:44] <lamont> as for the kernel/toolchain, the port must provide a responsible muppet^Wporter of sufficient competence to at least get James back to neutral from hating the port for the drain that it is otherwise.
[19:45] <lamont> also, the port needs to be to a point where it reliably runs, even when building gcc and glibc (and openoffice/java??)
[19:45] <jbailey> I was more thinking that you probably want commit access to the kernel and the toolchain.
[19:45] <jbailey> Yeah, Java's pretty standard these days.
[19:45] <jbailey> You have a pile of VMs to port if they don't work: Python, Java, Mono, Guile.
[19:46] <jbailey> They're all in main these days.