 Currently struggling with this sort of errors `Error: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod`
 `No such interface “org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties” on object at path /org/mpris/MediaPlayer2`
 Accessing DBus properties through the corresponding Qt API appears to be utterly broken no matter which methods I use
 Did someone broke anything?


[21:35] <hitsujiTMO> andreb: anything in the logs in the server give any indication?
[21:37] <andreb> hrm..
[21:37] <Silvio-> Hey guys i have a question: http://www.exploit-db.com/exploits/29290/ One of my sites was just hit with this, i updated my php version but i do not fully understand if im still vulnerable?
[21:38] <samuelq> hitsujiTMO: Okay yeah I must have screwed something up before because now it won't boot. It's complaining lvm volume does not exist
[21:39] <samuelq> hitsujiTMO: I think I'm just going to reinstall everything
[21:39] <hitsujiTMO> samuelq: ach ... maybe that wasn't a warning afterall
[21:39] <Silvio-> this is my current PHP version: PHP 5.3.2-1ubuntu4.21 with Suhosin-Patch (cli) (built: Sep  4 2013 19:13:13) and its below 5.3.12 which that exploit db says is vuln, does that mean my current php is also bad?
[21:39] <MonkeyDust> Silvio-  is that ubuntu server? if yes, better ask in #ubuntu-server, i guess
[21:39] <samuelq> hitsujiTMO: lol ... now he tells me! ;-)
[21:39] <Rory> Silvio-: I recommend all sysadmins read the first answer here http://serverfault.com/questions/218005/how-do-i-deal-with-a-compromised-server
[21:39] <samuelq> no worries ... it's a new install so nothing lost
[21:41] <andreb> hitsujitmo : hrm.. but all the other users in teh group can.. i will double check to ensure my user is there.. thanks for all the help
[21:41] <abradley> autofs nfs share not mounting. auto.master: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6367032/
[21:41] <abradley> auto.nfs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6367033/
[21:42] <abradley>  /mnt/nfs/proxmox exists locally already
[21:42] <abradley> when autofs starts /proxmox disappears
[21:43] <ianmac1> I really like the hover menu in the panel at the top of the screen in Saucy. Is there a way to make that menu (File, Edit, etc) visible ALL the time, not just on hover?
[21:43] <joossee> is there a trick for getting your network card into 5ghz?
[21:44] <histo> joossee: all devices on the network need to be N based or whatever
[21:45] <joossee> histo, ya on the network side everything is fine. im connected to 5ghz now
[21:45] <joossee> histo, but network manager not seeing 5ghz network?
[21:46] <hackujin> I'm trying to do a release-upgrade on 12.04.3 but it's saying no new release found
[21:46] <daftykins> hackujin: there's no new LTS version right now.
[21:47] <auronandace> hackujin: by default it would look for the next lts (14.04 isn't released yet)
[21:47] <hackujin> I also edited /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and set to normal but that upgrade fails
[21:47] <WobbleHeadDoll> Greetings everybody.
[21:47] <hackujin> I'd like to get it to 13.10 if possible
[21:47] <wilee-nilee> hackujin, wait till 14.04 is out for the lts
[21:48] <hackujin> is it impossible to upgrade to 13.10 ?
[21:48] <hitsujiTMO> hackujin: getting to 13.10 involves 3 upgrades
[21:48] <WobbleHeadDoll> Has anybody had any luck getting ATI Legacy drivers to work on XServer 1.13?
[21:48] <Calinou> you need to do 12.04 to 12.10 then 12.10 to 13.04 then 13.04 then 13.10 :)
[21:48] <Calinou> lengthy, but possible
[21:48] <wilee-nilee> hackujin, dual boot 13.10 transfer your stuff, and get it setup how yo like.
[21:49] <hackujin> it's a server :/
[21:49] <hitsujiTMO> WobbleHeadDoll: what kernel do you have?
[21:49] <hitsujiTMO> WobbleHeadDoll: uname -r
[21:49] <hackujin> so how do i make it detect 12.10 update?
[21:49] <Calinou> or stay on 12.04
[21:49] <geirha> hackujin: Any reason you can't wait for 14.04?
[21:50] <Calinou> non-LTS is less useful on a server :P
[21:50] <hackujin> trying to install libapache2-mod-fastcgi
[21:50] <WobbleHeadDoll> uname -r yields 3.8.0-32-generic.
[21:50] <hackujin> but I have a custom apache 2.4 installed and it's not working with it
[21:50] <hackujin> but on another 13.10 server it works fine
[21:50] <hitsujiTMO> WobbleHeadDoll: ati legacy targets 2.6 and wont build on 3.8
[21:50] <LeMike> Simple problem and I always forget: While editing files in /var/www with my IDE they all become user and group me:me . So just +r for www-data. How do I accomplish that www-data can +rwx at any time?
[21:51] <WobbleHeadDoll> How would I be able to get drivers for my ATI Mobility Radeon HD4xxx series card then?
[21:51] <hackujin>  libapache2-mod-fastcgi : Depends: apache2.2-common (>= 2.2.4) but it is not going to be installed
[21:52] <Frank81> Hi
[21:52] <Frank81> samuelq: all works
[21:52] <WobbleHeadDoll> I heard it may also be because the XServer is 1.13 and the legacy drivers only support XServer 1.12.
[21:52] <Frank81> i am so happy more then happy after more then 6 month i have now the new kernel and all works with usb
[21:52] <hackujin> Problem is I'm using this https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/apache2 for apache 2.4.x
[21:53] <hackujin> You guys know of any way to fix the conflict?
[21:53] <samuelq> Frank81: Everything worked?
[21:53] <Frank81> hitsujiTMO: thx you 100 times for posting this bug link it worked 100% well i am so happy if you need anything coding related add me ask me i can help you probally
[21:53] <Frank81> samuelq: all like a charm now
[21:53] <samuelq> Can you share exactly what you did for chroot/update? I tried it an bonked my install :/
[21:53] <Frank81> adding the ohci_pci driver is 100% the problem
[21:53] <hitsujiTMO> seems last supported version that can run that card is 12.04 (not 12.04.2 or 12.04.3)
[21:54] <hitsujiTMO> WobbleHeadDoll: ^
[21:54] <Frank81> i don't needed to chroot into my install i got a old working 3.8 kernel i booted it and it worked
[21:54] <Frank81> but since your is a fresh install i give you now one big advice
[21:54] <WobbleHeadDoll> Is it possible to downgrade my 12.04.3 LTS 64-Bit installing to a 12.04 installation without having to go through the process of downloading and reinstalling the entire OS?
[21:54] <Frank81> reinstall without LVM
[21:54] <samuelq> Frank81: lol
[21:54] <hitsujiTMO> !yay | Frank81 unfortunately didn't go so smoothly for samuelq
[21:55] <Frank81> it makes only problems and if you realy whant some parts un encrypted encrypt em
[21:55] <Frank81> but i can tell you sha1 is cracked allready
[21:55] <hitsujiTMO> WobbleHeadDoll: not sure tbh, it's not something i've ever tried
[21:55] <Frank81> and you don't need the NSA for that since people like me have amazon accounts the encryption is not worth it
[21:55] <WobbleHeadDoll> Ok, thank you hitsujiTMO. Perhaps some research on Google might be able to provide me with answers. Thank you for all your help!
[21:56] <Frank81> there are realy effectiv matching attaks against the encryption
[21:59] <Frank81> ok hitsujiTMO lets solv my next problem
[21:59] <brontosaurusrex> jawohl
[21:59] <Frank81> i use skype on ubuntu and its wine ported when it makes sounds
[22:00] <Frank81> i get a realy bad signal sound that don't stops until i stop the application
[22:00] <Frank81> a realy realy bad sound realy hurting
[22:00] <Frank81> it has something to do with pulse audio driver i think :D what can i do
[22:00] <Frank81> and one other big big problem if me is i have one Application that window the top of it is always out of screen so i cant realy move it
[22:01] <Frank81> how can i get it back into the screen :D
[22:01] <daftykins> Frank81: hold left Alt, click and drag
[22:02] <Frank81> daftykins: wunderfull thx
[22:02] <Frank81> today is a good day today all my dreams become reality
[22:02] <Frank81> all works
[22:02] <Frank81> :D
[22:02] <Frank81> i am so happy cant stop typing that sorry
[22:02] <hitsujiTMO> Frank81: not very knowledgeable about wine i'm afraid. I avoid it like the plague. Why not use the native binary?
[22:03] <Rory> hitsujiTMO: The version of Skype for Linux just flat out isn't as good as the Windows version
[22:03] <Rory> It's about 2 years behind
[22:03] <Frank81> Rory: its a wine port there is no skype for linux
[22:03] <hitsujiTMO> I see ...
[22:03] <Frank81> you can do a find and see it
[22:03] <Frank81> it creates wine dirs
[22:03] <Rory> Well TIL
[22:03] <Rory> !info skype
[22:04] <asc232> -topic
[22:04] <Frank81> hitsujiTMO: i would love to use skype linux nativ binary maybe you can support microsoft with doing one
[22:04] <Frank81> :D
[22:04] <Jpmh> Frank81 and Rory www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-linux/
[22:05] <Frank81> Jpmh:  ITS a WINE Version !
[22:05] <Frank81> Download it install it look whats get created with checkinstall or else you will see it
[22:05] <hitsujiTMO> frank most of my audio issues are with pulse audio ... i have 2 installs with the same intel audio. crackling on the install that has pulse, crisp clean sound on the one without.  dropping the audio levels in the pam control fixes the issue for others
[22:05] <bekks> Frank81: There is no such thing as a "skype wine version". There is a windows binary that may be executed under wine.
[22:05] <Frank81> thx a lot hitsujiTMO
[22:06] <Jpmh> Frank81:  I have not tested it recently but I certainly in the past have run skype on both Macs and Ubuntu and have NEVER installed wine
[22:06] <Frank81> bekks ok there is a Skype Package that uses WINE
[22:06] <Frank81> Jpmh look do find / -iname 'wine'
[22:06] <Frank81> and look what you get :D
[22:07] <Frank81> i examined the skype port early coz i try since years to reverse engeneere some parts of it
[22:07] <bekks> Frank81: There isnt. You can use the Windows binary using wine, thats all.
[22:07] <Frank81> it was more easy to get a real windows source code then the one of skype
[22:08] <Jpmh> you CAN use the windoze version under wine or you can go to the page i gave you and get the correct version for your distro
[22:08] <auronandace> !skype
[22:09] <andyc> are there normally any problems adding a desktop file to /usr/share/applications?  I'm just trying to add eclipse but it wont appear - do I need to run somethign to update the list?
[22:10] <kostkon> Frank81, the linux version is not a wine port
[22:10] <Frank81> ill verfiy that
[22:10] <Jpmh> kostkon: that's what I keep telling him - I even gave him the download page - he choses to ignore facts
[22:11] <kostkon> Jpmh, :/
[22:11] <auronandace> Frank81: perhaps you are thinking of teamviewer, that uses its own custom wine directory
[22:13] <FrancisH> hey guys, ive tried setting up ircd-hybrid, and the ports are open within my home network, but I get connection refused.
[22:13] <JPSman> so i'm using gdm and I have "free'd the fish" - how do I kill the fish without having to killall gnome-panel ?
[22:14] <FrancisH> any help with my irc problem?
[22:14] <kgalahassa> bekks, I'm trying.
[22:15] <Rory> FrancisH: Can you see the port is open when you use nmap? (nmap hostname -p portnum)
[22:15] <Rory> FrancisH: Or try telnetting to that port and see if you get immediately kicked off (telnet hostname portnum)
[22:15] <FrancisH> one sec rory
[22:16] <FrancisH> yeah i get right away kicked off
[22:17] <FrancisH> what does that mean?
[22:18] <Rory> FrancisH: It means there's nothing actually listening on that port
[22:19] <FrancisH> ok…so what do i have to do?
[22:19] <Rory> FrancisH: If you run "netstat -tulpn" you can see what port (if any) it's listening on. Are you sure it's actually even running?
[22:19] <Rory> FrancisH: Might have to use sudo netstat -tulpn
[22:20] <FrancisH> no I see the ranges set in the conf file, so 6665 to 6669
[22:20] <Frank81> wow
[22:20] <Rory> FrancisH: Do you see that in the output of netstat -tulpn?
[22:20] <FrancisH> yes
[22:20] <Frank81> htop now shows each cpu core
[22:20] <Rory> Frank81: Which actual port is it listening on?
[22:20] <Rory> Frank81: sorry that was intended for you
[22:21] <Rory> FrancisH: ^^^
[22:21] <Rory> wow
[22:21] <Frank81> Rory i know i have no port problems any more
[22:21] <Rory> Yes Frank81 I was just hitting Fr[tab] but it fills in the most recent nick. My messages were both intended for FrancisH
[22:21] <Frank81> in the last 4 month i made networking my primary knowleg fild coz i created a totally new way to send data accross networks
[22:22] <Frank81> i wanna offer it as SaaS
[22:22] <Frank81> it speeds up tcp traffic by more then 600%
[22:22] <Rory> FrancisH: If you look in the "PID/ProgramName" column to find your IRC daemon, then look at the corresponding entry in the "Local Address" column, what does that say?
[22:22] <Rory> !ot > Frank81
[22:23] <Frank81> cool !ot > Rory
[22:23] <bubba> ciao
[22:23] <Frank81> ehm wait
[22:23] <Frank81> !ot > Rory
[22:23] <bubba> !list
[22:23] <FrancisH> it just says tcp
[22:23] <Frank81> cool i can use the bot too today is realy a good day
[22:24] <Rory> FrancisH: Could you copy the full output of "sudo netstat -tulpn" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and put the resulting URL in channel?
[22:25] <FrancisH> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6367246/ there you are rory
[22:25] <Rory> OK FrancisH I can see from the first line in the table that ircd-hybrid is listening on port 6667
[22:26] <FrancisH> ok...
[22:26] <Rory> FrancisH: Is that the port you have been trying to connect to?
[22:26] <FrancisH> yes i believe so let me try again
[22:26] <Frank81> Rory who runs that bot? called ubuntu?
[22:26] <Frank81> its vulunerible
[22:27] <FrancisH> in adium it still says connecting
[22:27] <Rory> FrancisH: Can you connect to that port on telnet?
[22:27] <hitsujiTMO> Frank81: if you want to report any vulnerabilities about the bot, do so in #ubuntu-ops
[22:27] <LeMike> what's with that pem_umask? i edit the /etc/login.defs changed UMASK to 0002 but it is still 022 ...
[22:27] <Rory> FrancisH: FYI being able to PM someone without having to say it in this channel is not a vulnerability, it's a feature
[22:27] <Frank81> hitsujiTMO: thx again your today realy my bestfrind :D
[22:28] <FrancisH> :hybrid7.debian.local NOTICE AUTH :*** Looking up your hostname...
[22:28] <FrancisH> :hybrid7.debian.local NOTICE AUTH :*** Checking Ident
[22:28] <FrancisH> :hybrid7.debian.local NOTICE AUTH :*** No Ident response
[22:28] <Frank81> you made the keyboards working again :D
[22:28] <FrancisH> that what it gives me
[22:28] <Rory> FrancisH: Well in that case it is actually connecting to the server perfectly fine
[22:28] <FrancisH> cool so its just my irc client that is weird?
[22:28] <hitsujiTMO> Frank81: lol, np
[22:28] <Rory> FrancisH: I'd recommend finding the help channel or other documentation for the IRC daemon and asking there
[22:28] <FrancisH> ok cool thanks alot Rory i appreciate it
[22:28] <Rory> FrancisH: Those messages are coming from the IRC daemon you see, so if it wasn't connecting you wouldn't see them
[22:29] <FrancisH> cool thanks!
[22:29] <Rory> FrancisH: Also I'm not totally up on IRC, but it seems like you're trying to identify or something, but haven't set up anything to recognise what that means "No ident response"
[22:29] <FrancisH> ok ill look it up
[22:30] <eer> How can I change the vars shown with locale permanently? I can not find the vars in ~/.bashrc /etc/profile or ~/.profile
[22:31] <samgabbay> does anyone know how to decrypt a opepgp key?
[22:32] <Rory> samgabbay: What do you mean by "decrypt" do you mean decrypt a file which has been encrypted using that key?
[22:32] <hitsujiTMO> eer: $LANGUAGE and $LANG?
[22:33] <eer> hitsujiTMO, but the scheme is territory.codeset, right?
[22:33] <eer> hitsujiTMO, where is the codeset stored?
[22:33] <hitsujiTMO> eer: example: update-locale LANG=en_IE.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=en_IE
[22:34] <samgabbay> nevermind got it
[22:34] <hitsujiTMO> eer: that will work if you have the en language pack installed.
[22:34] <disappearedng> Hey everyone. I have a windows 8 desktop which I just freed up 100 gb and installed ubuntu on it (mount point was '/'). I chose /dev/sda for the boot loader and when ubuntu has finished installing I arrive at just the grub menu when I reboot my computer (just grub >). Any ideas on how I can boot into ubuntu?
[22:34] <hitsujiTMO> eer: when you install a language pack it should list the supported locales
[22:34] <eer> hitsujiTMO, I don't have an update-locale command. Is it not installed by default?
[22:35] <wilee-nilee> disappearedng, Try the bootrepair app, and save the bootinfo summary https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[22:36] <hitsujiTMO> eer: it should be. it works on a debootstrap install so it should be there for all
[22:36] <JoeyJoeJo> I'm running out of disk space and I'm trying to track down large files and folders. Is there a program that can scan my hard drive and show a graph of filesizes?
[22:36] <eer> hitsujiTMO, is there a way I can change the way date is displayed system wide? I want everything to be in English but the US American way of displaying the date drives me nuts. It is not logical to me month/day/year. I want day/month/year
[22:37] <wilee-nilee> disappearedng, this a W8 install you did and no uefi?
[22:37] <hitsujiTMO> eer: update-locale should address all of that
[22:37] <mads-> JoeyJoeJo, disk usage analyzer. Comes with Ubuntu
[22:37] <hitsujiTMO> eer: you need to run it as root too
[22:37] <eer> man update-locale -> No manual found
[22:38] <sharpnel> eer,  custom format
[22:38] <hitsujiTMO> eer: the command is there on 12.04 and 13.10 what version are you running?
[22:38] <eer> 13.10
[22:38] <eer> The program seems to be there but no man page.
[22:39] <eer> I can run the command but it doesn do anything
[22:39] <hitsujiTMO> eer: whats the output of update-locale without sudo?
[22:40] <Pinkamena_D> What would I have to do to get windows domain computer names to resolve correctly from ubuntu
[22:40] <eer> hitsujiTMO, update-locale: Unable to write /etc/default/locale: Permission denied
[22:40] <disappearedng> wilee-nilee: I think there is EFI
[22:40] <disappearedng> how can I cehck
[22:40] <wilee-nilee> disappearedng, If this is a OEM it is.
[22:40] <disappearedng> it is OEM
[22:40] <hitsujiTMO> eer: its working alright. you just need to reboot to see the effect of the changes
[22:41] <eer> hitsujiTMO, what changes?
[22:41] <wilee-nilee> disappearedng, Try the bootrepair app it is set for these sort of problema and others, and kicks out that bootinfo summary for analyses.
[22:41] <disappearedng> wilee-nilee: I just did, still ended up at this grub> menu
[22:41] <hitsujiTMO> eer: whatever changes you set here ->: update-locale LANG=en_IE.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=en_IE
[22:41] <disappearedng> so annoying
[22:42] <wilee-nilee> disappearedng, You save the bootinfo?
[22:42] <eer> hitsujiTMO, how about the date?
[22:42] <hitsujiTMO> eer: it takes it from that info
[22:42] <disappearedng> I pressed ok then the dialog closed. Let me redo it
[22:42] <eer> I mean date format
[22:43] <Trudko> hi guys, I am going to install bunch of stuff regarding Ruby On rails development on my env, thing is I done this few times already, including installation on ubuntu server. What is best way how to automate installation ? I need to install Ruby, apache, mysql, rbevn etc etc
[22:43] <Guest54735> anyone have trouble with wifi connection dropping with the new slackamander 13.10?
[22:43] <hitsujiTMO> eer: the format is assumed to be the same as LANG, unless you specify otherwise so you could add LC_TIME=en_US.UTF-8 to the list above if you wanted everthing irish except LC_TIME
[22:44] <wilee-nilee> disappearedng, This is not the best place for this problem at times, the ubuntu forum has a couple of people focused on this, that boot summary and uefi in a thread header will have them stop by a thread.
[22:44] <eer> hitsujiTMO, will try. Gotta run now. Thx for your help.
[22:51] <jayar> anyone having wifi issues with the new saucy 13.10?
[22:51] <ianmac1> I really like the hover menu in the panel at the top of the screen in Saucy. Is there a way to make that menu (File, Edit, etc) visible ALL the time, not just on hover?
[22:51] <wilee-nilee> jayar, State the issues with the wifi hardware info for help.
[22:52] <hitsujiTMO> ianmac1: unfortunately no. it;s been brought up as a usability issue a few times but so movement on that.
[22:52] <hitsujiTMO> ianmac1: the argument is that they want to get people to use the hud instead
[22:52] <ianmac1> hitsujiTMO, Ah, thank you. Hopefully they'll add an option to turn it on.
[22:53] <ianmac1> hitsujiTMO, Hmm.. perhaps they should focus on letting the user personalize the desktop they way they want instead of trying to get people used to something.
[22:53] <disappearedng> wilee-nilee: well if you have time please take a look: http://askubuntu.com/questions/371774/windows-8-oem-on-dell-desktop-installed-ubuntu-on-partition-reboot-to-see-only
[22:53] <ianmac1> just my $0.02
[22:53] <hitsujiTMO> ianmac1: you're absolutely right on that
[22:54] <ianmac1> :)
[22:54] <reisio> ¢
[22:54] <jhutchins_wk> disappearedng: Did you read the documentation on installing ubutntu to a uefi system?
[22:54] <disappearedng> jhutchins_wk: what's a uefi system?
[22:54] <jhutchins_wk> disappearedng: What you've got.
[22:55] <jhutchins_wk> disappearedng: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[22:55] <ianmac1> disappearedng, I believe UEFI is secure boot
[22:55] <Rory> disappearedng: The easiest way is to disable Secure Boot in your BIOS and reinstall Ubuntu
[22:55] <jhutchins_wk> !uefi
[22:55] <disappearedng> jhutchins_wk: eh, no, since I don't even know what UEFI is
[22:55] <ianmac1> jhutchins_wk, thaks for that
[22:55] <jayar> having troubles with my wifi dropping "out of range" randomly, even when right next to router - 0c:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)
[22:55] <wilee-nilee> disappearedng, uefi is a mystery for most of us, the manufacturers have their own versions, as I stated the ubuntu forum has a couple of people on every day focused on this. They use the bootinfo summary to get this stuff fixed, you would make sure to have uefi in a thread to get their attention.
[22:56] <bekks> jayar: Beeing too close to the router heavily impacts signal strength.
[22:56] <jhutchins_wk> ianmac1: It's part of how secureboot is implemented, but it's been around for a while.  IBM uses it, Intel Macs use it.
[22:56] <jayar> it doesnt matter how close or far i am...
[22:56] <hitsujiTMO> jayar try disabling n on the module
[22:56] <ianmac1> jhutchins_wk, Ah, yes, I remeber having to disable it to install an old Ubuntu version on a laptop earlier this year
[22:56] <wilee-nilee> disappearedng, Thread header that is.
[22:57] <jhutchins_wk> ianmac1: Linux/grub have been able to work with it for several years now.
[22:57] <hitsujiTMO> jayar: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1994792
[22:58] <disappearedng> ok thanks guys, will reinstall. Seriously I had no idea about UEFI lol
[22:58] <hitsujiTMO> jayar: sorry that should be 11n_disable=1                https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1034740
[22:58] <wilee-nilee> disappearedng, If you are getting a grub> I doubt you need to reinstall, but do what suits you.
[22:58] <Pinkamena_D> What would I have to do to get windows domain computer names to resolve correctly from ubuntu? Usually I need to register with the domain on the windows computers. (I have the username and password for this)
[22:59] <disappearedng> and install the bootloader on /dev/sda right?
[23:00] <wilee-nilee> disappearedng, in a msdos yes, uefi I don't think so.
[23:01] <hitsujiTMO> Pinkamena_D: https://www.zulius.com/how-to/resolve-windows-netbios-names-from-linux/
[23:01] <wilee-nilee> disappearedng, Do you have the W8 backed up?
[23:02] <Kardinal> Good evening all.  Has anyone else experienced the problem of their mouse disappearing (becoming invisible) in Unity and LightDM?  I'm able to log into an account I have setup with Gnome shell and once this loads the mouse icon appears.  This happened this evening after I applied some updates and then did a reboot.
[23:03] <wilee-nilee> Kardinal, Have you modified unity, and were you on with another nick yesterday with this issue?
[23:03] <Pinkamena_D> it always says "ping: unknown host"
[23:03] <VlanX> hello... any idea how i can expand the used ext3 partition inside a virtual machine?
[23:03] <disappearedng> wilee-nilee: actually I don't care much about the w8
[23:03] <disappearedng> I only use it for age of empires
[23:04] <wilee-nilee> disappearedng, I only use mine for word and grad papers, however that is enough for me to keep it usable, could this be the same basically for you.
[23:05] <wilee-nilee> is age of empires something you want in other words
[23:05] <disappearedng> serious when can steam port age of empires to steam on linux?
[23:05] <disappearedng> yeah
[23:05] <disappearedng> I haven't touched windows in a long long time
[23:05] <joossee> hey guys trying to get a TPLINK WDN4800 to see 5ghz networks? everything else working fine... notmuch help on google
[23:05] <disappearedng> mostly mac as I am a developer, and goobuntu at work
[23:06] <hitsujiTMO> VlanX: expand virtual drive first, then boot the vm with a live cd and expand the partition with gparted. unless you're using lvm, which you have to expand with the lvm tools. ALWAYS do a backup first.
[23:06] <Kardinal> Hi Wilee-nilee:  Answer : No - no Unity tweaking.  No - first time I'm reporting this issue as I've just hit it this evening.  BTW - It is Ubuntu 13.10.  The Gnome shell is 3.8
[23:06] <ianmac1> hitsujiTMO, So I'm assuming there is no way to disable the dash altogether. I don't use it, I find it annoying. I've hidden it but it still pops out on file drag and drop and other times.
[23:06] <Calinou> disappearedng: google employee... prepare for fans and the NSA running to you
[23:06] <wilee-nilee> Kardinal, Is 3.8 a ppa version?
[23:06] <joossee> it uses ath9k i do believe
[23:06] <hitsujiTMO> ianmac1: unfortunately i haven't heard of a way. should be possible, but have no idea if its an easy fix or not
[23:07] <Kardinal> yes, 3.8 PPA version.  I have it on my ToDo list to check out Gnome 3.10 in a Virtual Machine build.
[23:07] <ianmac1> hitsujiTMO, ok, I'll keep researching. Thank you very much for your help.
[23:07] <glassres1stor> im having an issue with the Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6205 on 12.04, basically it works at some wifi but not others where its gets allot of excessive retries and misc errors'
[23:07] <disappearedng> Calinou: Ex, now I am running my own startup
[23:08] <wilee-nilee> Kardinal, Nice dreams, however ppa's are not supported here and I suspect the root of the missing cursor, you aware of ppa-purge?
[23:08] <glassres1stor> the general search results are to turn off power mgmt and disable N11 which i've done without much help
[23:08] <disappearedng> wow linux mint is nice
[23:09] <wilee-nilee> disappearedng, mint is ubuntu in drag and not supported
[23:10] <Rory> wilee-nilee: That's certainly a unique description of Mint.
[23:10] <wilee-nilee> my own, lol
[23:10] <Kardinal> Correction - mymistake - I should have stated that Gnome-shell was installed via Software Centre, PPA is what is required for 3.10.  Gnome is fine with the mouse cursor - it is Unity that seems to have done the vanishing act!
[23:11] <wilee-nilee> Kardinal, What releases you running?
[23:11] <wilee-nilee> release*
[23:12] <disappearedng> wilee-nilee: if I reboot and I don't see grub at all (booting straight into ubuntu), is it correct that I assume that 1. Grub is installed, 2. Grub just doesn't present me the selection screen because it couldn't detect the partition for windows?
[23:12] <wilee-nilee> 12.04 to 13.10 which is it
[23:12] <Kardinal> Base install was Ubuntu 13.10 desktop i386.
[23:12] <hitsujiTMO> Kardinal: the gnome ppas usually aren't compatible with unity as they replace common dependencies
[23:13] <dkb0> my audio stopped working
[23:13] <hitsujiTMO> !sound | dkb0
[23:13] <wilee-nilee> kardan, try a reset on unity and compiz. http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/reset-unity-and-compiz-in-ubuntu-13-10/
[23:13] <dkb0> tried rebooting, tried resetting pulseaudio, looked at alsamixer, everything's fine
[23:14] <dkb0> nothing wrong with my hardware
[23:14] <wilee-nilee> Kardinal, sorry look at the message to kardan
[23:14] <Kardinal> Thanks for that link - I'll check it out and see if that helps.  Much appreciated.
[23:14] <wilee-nilee> no prob
[23:14] <wilee-nilee> kardan, Sorry.
[23:14] <glassresistor> whats the best way to reinstall completely remove and readd the iwlwifi drivers etc.
[23:16] <Rory> glassresistor: It depends how you installed them in the first place
[23:16] <dkb0> hitsujiTMO: already went through the troubleshooting
[23:16] <hitsujiTMO> dkb0: where is the sound braking so?
[23:17] <hitsujiTMO> breaking?
[23:17] <dkb0> sorry, i'll be back later
[23:17] <glassresistor> Rory: using apt-get might have used a ppa trying to back to default settings and see how it looks
[23:17] <Rory> glassresistor: You can use "sudo apt-get remove --purge packagename"
[23:17] <joossee> Can anyone help me get WDN4800 to see 5ghz networks?
[23:19] <Rory> joossee: Can other devices connect to the network at 5ghz?
[23:19] <joossee> yup.. like this laptop im on right now!
[23:20] <joossee> Rory, dualband router, one is named "-2" other isnamed "-5" so i know for sure..
[23:21] <Rory> joossee: Is it that the -5 SSID doesn't show up, or is it that it *does* show up, but you can't connect to it
[23:21] <Rory> joossee: Also can you just clarify what Ubuntu version you're using, sorry if you already said
[23:22] <joossee> Rory, 12.04
[23:23] <Rory> joossee: Is it that the -5 SSID doesn't show up, or is it that it *does* show up, but you can't connect to it
[23:23] <Rory> joossee: Also could you please put the output from the command: "lspci -nn" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and put the resulting URL in this channel?
[23:23] <joossee> Rory, doesnt show up in the list in network manager...
[23:25] <Rory> joossee: OK so as well as "lspci -nn" I would like to see the output from "sudo iwlist scan"
[23:25] <joossee> Rory, http://pastebin.com/pnE6jAXC
[23:28] <joossee> Rory, can I do a sduo iwlist scan | grep Frequency:5 instead?
[23:29] <Rory> joossee: No because that would only show the line that says "Frequency 5" and not the surrounding info. Feel free to censor SSIDs and MAC addresses if you are worried
[23:29] <joossee> Rory, iwscan doesnt return any 5ghz networks, just 2.4
[23:30] <Rory> Right OK
[23:30] <joossee> Rory, `does kismet pickup 5ghz? perhaps i can see more details...?
[23:30] <Power1> Is there a fast way to remove old kernals from /boot to free some space?
[23:31] <Rory> joossee: By the way, do you know this device supports 5Ghz? Just because it says "wireless n" doesn't mean it does - did you have it working in Windows or something?
[23:31] <joossee> it clearly sez 5ghz on the box?
[23:31] <joossee> tp-link wdn4800
[23:31] <joossee> its pretty recommended in all the forums and stuff, i researched quite a while i am certain it does 5ghz
[23:32] <Rory> Power1: use uname -r to find your current version. Then "dpkg --list | grep linux-image" to view all installed kernel packages
[23:32] <Rory> Power1: Then "sudo apt-get purge linux-image-x.x.x.x-generic" for each one apart from the one you're using
[23:32] <joossee> Rory, no windows on this server, but if it helpsmy phone and my laptop can both see and connect to 5ghz from same location...?
[23:32] <joossee> (laptop is 5ghz)
[23:32] <Power1> it wont let me remove them with sudo apt-get purge
[23:32] <joossee> i have low gain atennas hooked up to the card as well\
[23:32] <bekks> Power1: Why not?
[23:33] <Power1> is there a pastebin site?
[23:33] <bekks> Power1: Pastebin the full output please and give us the URL.
[23:33] <dkb0> okay
[23:33] <bekks> !paste | Power1
[23:33] <Rory> Power1: It might be "sudo apt-get --purge remove packagename"
[23:33] <dkb0> so my sound isn't working. my computer recognizes the speakers, and there's nothing wrong with the speakers themselves. i tried rebooting, resetting pulseaudio and checking alsamixer to see if it's muted, and nothing worked.
[23:34] <dkb0> anybody able to help?
[23:34] <joossee> Rory, WDN4800 uses ath9k chipset and i disabled hwcrypt in modeprobe since this chipset is known for lagging...?
[23:34] <silveira> usb speakers?
[23:34] <dkb0> silveira: regular sound jack, i don't know the technical term
[23:35] <Power1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6367520/
[23:35] <Power1> and im out of space on boot
[23:35] <Rory> joossee: I'm researching currently
[23:36] <joossee> Rory, ty .. ill be at this for a while so do your thing..
[23:36] <Rory> joossee: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo iwconfig" ?
[23:36] <joossee> yes
[23:36] <joossee> sudo iwconfig
[23:36] <joossee> oops
[23:36] <Serus> Has anybody installed teamspeak?
[23:36] <Rory> !anybody | Serus
[23:37] <dkb0> anyone?
[23:37] <Serus> lol
[23:37] <silveira> dbk0, if speakers plug into a standard audio jack, then the next thing to check would be sound card function, using headphones perhaps
[23:37] <joossee> Rory, http://pastebin.com/zwq1qTdT
[23:37] <Serus> "Who installed teamspeak" doesn't sound right
[23:38] <bekks> !anyone | Serus
[23:38] <Rory> Serus: Yes, some people in the world have installed teamspeak, to answer your question
[23:39] <dkb0> ...okay, let me restate it then
[23:39] <dkb0> "so my sound isn't working. my computer recognizes the speakers, and there's nothing wrong with the speakers themselves. i tried rebooting, resetting pulseaudio and checking alsamixer to see if it's muted, and nothing worked."
[23:39] <silveira> dbk0, what chipset of soundcard do you have?
[23:40] <Serus> How do I install teamspeak? It shows up in the software center, but it doesn't give me the option to install it.
[23:40] <Rory> OK joossee here's where I'm at with my google-fu: Your output of "lspci -nn" shows that your device is a "AR93xx" - according to the information here (http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k) it could be one of four devices. Three of them support dual-band, but one of them (AR9331) does not - I'm trying to determine if your chip is that one
[23:40] <dkb0> silveira: not sure, how do i check? it was working fine for ages before this happened.
[23:40] <sventon> hi all, I followed the instructions here http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx to create a bootable USB stick but then rebooting the USB are not found
[23:40] <joossee> Rory, ok awesomethank you. to help: from what ive read this is a newish card and thepeoplemakingpsots dont seem to clear about whether thevy connected a 2 or 5 ghz...
[23:41] <silveira> dbk0, a "lspci" might tell you what ubuntu sees as your sound chipset
[23:41] <rch-matt> having an issue with ubuntu laptop switching screens on ubuntu 13.04.03 lts. gives the error: requested position/size for crtc 148 is outside the allowed limit: position=(1366,0) size=(1920, 1080), maximum=(1920,1920)
[23:41] <Rory> joossee: Can you pastebin "sudo lspci -vvv" it will be very long
[23:41] <Rory> joossee: You might have to do "sudo lspci -vvv > outputfile" and then open "outputfile" ina  text editor, to stop the terminal chopping off the start of the output
[23:42] <joossee> Rory, roger thAT
[23:42] <Pinkamena_D> I am sorry for my jumpy responses in the past. I am still looking for how to resolve hostnames of windows machines on my ubuntu box. From another windows box which is not registered to the domain, the names will still work and ping correctly, so this should not be as complicated as I throught at first
[23:42] <chomwitt> i always see https://help.ubuntu.com/12.10/ubuntu-help/index.html  in greek language. how can i see it in english?
[23:42] <Pinkamena_D> when I use the ping command, am I supposed to be putting just the name or smb:\\thename or something else?
[23:43] <Pinkamena_D> (I have tried both of those)
[23:43] <silveira> Pinkamena_D, have you tried putting entires for the windows machines in your "hosts" file?
[23:43] <Power1> it looks like i need to rub apt-get -f install but I have no space on boot to install the new kernel here is the paste bin when running the perge command http://paste.ubuntu.com/6367520/
[23:43] <Pinkamena_D> they have dynamic ips
[23:43] <dkb0> silveira: hmm, my headphones do work actually. i don't think there's anything wrong with my speakers though.
[23:44] <dkb0> anyway, here's this: http://pastebin.com/NkSLNbnD
[23:44] <Rory> chomwitt: When you visit that page, does the URL change?
[23:44] <silveira> dbk0, in that case there might be a mixer setting for output level, to switch between the low output range good for headphones and the higher output range needed for speakers.
[23:45] <joossee> Rory, http://pastebin.com/yelmJ9LQ i pasted the part for the NIC in question, which convenenitly appeared at the very bottom. can report wholeif necessary
[23:45] <Guest6558> ciao a tutti
[23:45] <Guest6558> !list
[23:45] <chomwitt> Rory: no
[23:45] <silveira> dbk0, sometimes it's called "external amp" or something like that
[23:46] <dkb0> silveira: where would that be configured? didn't find anything in alsamixer.
[23:46] <Rory> joossee: Says it's been removed
[23:47] <joossee> Rory, let me see again.. i have tomanually type pastebin urls
[23:47] <Rory> joossee: Use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[23:47] <silveira> dbk0, it would be configured somewhere in alsamixer, usually
[23:47] <joossee> Rory, http://pastebin.com/yeimJ9LQ
[23:47] <joossee> Rory, ^^ thats the right one
[23:47] <joossee> Rory, sorry im ircingonphysicallyseperate machine
[23:48] <silveira> dbk0, are these speakers with a builin amp which might not be getting powerright now, or something like that?
[23:48] <dkb0> silveira: dammmnnn, i feel incredibly dumb. the speakers became unplugged, that should have been the first thing i checked for.
[23:49] <dkb0> thanks for the help
[23:49] <silveira> a ha :)
[23:49] <wafflejock_> dkb0: haha always step 1 check for power :)
[23:49] <Rory> joossee: Hmmm, still nothing more specific to be gleaned from that. Does it have a more specific model number on the box or on the card itsself?
[23:49] <dkb0> i'll keep that in mind next time
[23:49] <wafflejock_> dkb0: I always laugh when I see that in troubleshooting manuals but apparently it's a good idea :)
[23:50] <joossee> Rory, what wouldi belooking for... it came with a CD for windows, might those inf files have morespecificity? i can read the card but i will have topower down server and remove it which is kinda pain in butt?
[23:50] <Power1> it looks like i need to run apt-get -f install but I have no space on boot to install the new kernel. Here is the paste bin when running the perge command http://paste.ubuntu.com/6367520/
[23:51] <joossee> Rory, they only make one model of this card, again its relatively new
[23:51] <Rory> joossee: Basically, I've reached the limit of my ability. Go on this page [ http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k ] and ctrl-F for AR93 - you will see 4 possible models highlighted. If you can somehow determine if your card is a AR9331 you will know that dual-band isn't suported by the driver
[23:52] <Rory> joossee: But I can't work out how to make it give anything more specific than "AR93XX"
[23:52] <joossee> Rory, from reading the inf files i believe it is 9330 does thay make sense?
[23:52] <hitsujiTMO> joossee: lscpi -nn
[23:53] <wafflejock_> joossee: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2032357
[23:53] <silveira> joossee, if this is a pci card, you could get the pci id numbers at boot time, and from that know your model number
[23:53] <hitsujiTMO> joossee: lscpi -nn | Network             that will give the pci and ven ids
[23:54] <Power1> I think my apt-get is broken
[23:54] <Rory> joossee: Ah then that probably means it's not supported at 5GHz since in the context of that inf file, 9330 probably means "933X" and the only chip matching that in the driver is the AR9331 which has single-band support only
[23:54] <joossee> Rory, ok but I mean... are you saying the hardware doesnt physically support 5ghzor just the driver im running?
[23:54] <Serus> is it me, or is VLC's quality worse on linux?
[23:55] <Rory> joossee: I mean the ath9k driver doesn't support it; the hardware does, physically, in theory
[23:55] <joossee> Serus, display drivers on ubuntu are wrose..specially amd
[23:55] <hitsujiTMO> Serus: vlc just sucks in general
[23:55] <AcidRain2012> ive made full backups of all of my files. i would like to completely reinstall the unity desktop. how can i do this?
[23:55] <Serus> I use nvidia drivers I think
[23:55] <pero> hitsujiTMO: do reco something better...
[23:55] <AcidRain2012> when i boot into unity, every window leaves trails. looks like the entire desktop is fully broken
[23:55] <Serus> hitsujiTMO, that's not true, recent updates made it allot better.
[23:55] <bekks> Serus: Works fine here
[23:56] <Geo_> it works fine here too
[23:56] <Serus> Could be me
[23:56] <hitsujiTMO> Power1: why do you think apt-get is broken
[23:56] <balM> Hello, I'm trying to set the correct time on my box but it doesnt work, I'm using dpkg-reconfigure tzdata to set the timezone. Any help would be appreciated, thanx.
[23:56] <hitsujiTMO> I've always had issues with vlc over the last 10 or so years (or however long its been around) mainly syncing issues
[23:56] <joossee> Rory, Rory
[23:57] <wafflejock_> hitsujiTMO: has been much better in recent times
[23:57] <wafflejock_> hitsujiTMO: not sure what changed
[23:57] <joossee> Rory, looking at that link you posted... Mine is a PCIe model, which are all marked DB or dual band?
[23:57] <hitsujiTMO> in fairness i havent used it in a few years but
[23:58] <hitsujiTMO> balM: have you sync the time with an npt server?: sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com
[23:58] <Serus> bekks, yeah, it was the video. I do get a tiny bit stuttering in the beginning, but that's because the raspberry pi
[23:58] <Morgawr> Hello, I'm not sure if this is the proper place to ask for this question but I have an intel HD4000 integrated GPU and I wanted to use OpenGL 3.2 but apparently mesa only supports OpenGL 3.0, I read that it's coming out with mesa 10 that has support for OpenGL 3.2
[23:59] <Rory> joossee: I'm only going by the number, and also by the fact that you are using the ath9k driver, and clearly 5GHz isn't working :P
[23:59] <HomelessSanta> Howdy all, does anyone in here know how I can kill X with a shortcut key in Ubuntu?
[23:59] <Morgawr> I installed the mesa drivers from a more up-to-date ppa that says I have mesa 10 but it still reports opengl 3.0, does anybody know where I can check and find the 3.2 drivers?
[23:59] <bekks> Serus: So how did you get the nvidia chipset onto a raspi? And do you run Ubuntu on your raspi?
[23:59] <balM> hitsujiTMO: No I didnt, I tought there is another way to do this like date ..


[03:42] <SpamapS> saml: no, 'exec /path/to/your/script' is fine as long as it is directly executable. Otherwise exec bash /path/to/your/script
[03:43] <saml> SpamapS, thanks. I ended up using script block
[03:43] <saml> probably because the script itself was wrong
[13:57] <vedic> I have a server which I want to start and stop using upstart. How to setup such a script? server is able to check sigterm signal to shutdown. I am using Ubuntu 10.04 with python 2.6 . I would prefer to start the script in usermod so that all the files this server creates doesn't take root permission else some other script will have problems writing into them
[18:47] <vedic> I have created upstart script to start/stop a python script (its a tcp/ip server). There are two servers that I need to start (order is not a matter). When I start the first server using upstart script, it is starting well and works fine. But while first is running, if I start second server which is using prefork to spawn about 10 processes, it is not able to start.
[18:49] <vedic> It just complains: /home/user1/virtualenv/bin/python already running.


[00:01] <ahoneybun> this is a broken link :http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20160921/yakkety-desktop-amd64.iso
[00:01] <ahoneybun> well the iso is not there
[00:02] <ahoneybun> i386 images are missing to
[00:02] <ahoneybun> *too
[00:02] <valorie> huh
[00:02] <valorie> the daily was working a week ago
[00:02] <valorie> because I tested it in a VM
[00:02] <ahoneybun> I thought that they respon it
[00:03] <valorie> well, there is the beta now
[00:03] <ahoneybun> but that is what Beta 2 links to
[00:03] <valorie> I haven't been paying attention to the daily since all that
[00:03] <valorie> uh
[00:03] <valorie> why?
[00:03] <ahoneybun> idk
[00:03] <ahoneybun> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/367/builds
[00:04] <ahoneybun> opps
[00:04] <ahoneybun> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/367/builds/131689/downloads
[00:04] <valorie> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/yakkety/beta-2/ is the correct URL
[00:04] <ahoneybun> well the iso.qa links to that
[00:04] <valorie> for the beta
[00:04]  * valorie needs dinner
[00:04] <valorie> or I'm gonna faint
[00:05] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_discover build #114: STILL FAILING in 1 min 7 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_discover/114/
[00:05] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_dolphin build #472: STILL FAILING in 1 min 1 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_dolphin/472/
[00:07] <ahoneybun> very odd indeed
[00:08] <ahoneybun> mm
[00:08] <ahoneybun> acheronuk: clivejo I know it's a bit early for ZZ yet for the new Discover
[00:09] <clivejo> ??
[00:09] <ahoneybun> we have a few things in kubuntu-settings package that override the look of Discover in it's current state
[00:09] <ahoneybun> but with the new UI those are not needed
[00:10]  * ahoneybun wonders if KDE ever thought of doing patreon
[00:11] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_kate build #795: STILL FAILING in 43 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_kate/795/
[00:14] <tsimonq2> EEEEEK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[00:19] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_kdenetwork-filesharing build #207: STILL FAILING in 32 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_kdenetwork-filesharing/207/
[00:20] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_kdepim-runtime build #490: STILL FAILING in 15 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_kdepim-runtime/490/
[00:21] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_kdiamond build #597: STILL FAILING in 44 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_kdiamond/597/
[00:21] <tsimonq2> superman to the rescue!
[00:21] <tsimonq2> lol
[00:26] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_kiriki build #431: STILL FAILING in 51 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_kiriki/431/
[00:42] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_picmi build #426: STILL FAILING in 38 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_picmi/426/
[00:42] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_plasma-desktop build #873: STILL FAILING in 43 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_plasma-desktop/873/
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[00:51] <valorie> what was the eek! for?
[00:52] <tsimonq2> merge failures left and right /o\
[00:54] <valorie> ah
[00:54] <valorie> I miss a busy group fixing that stuff
[00:54] <tsimonq2> well you have me lol
[00:55]  * valorie supplies the punch and cookies
[00:56] <tsimonq2> valorie: if we ever share a hostel or hotel, I'll be that guy up until 11 PM local time fixing KCI and everybody will be like "Simon, go to bed!" and I'll be like, "NO, I MUST FIX KCI." :P
[00:56] <tsimonq2> s/11 PM/1 AM/
[00:57] <valorie> kudos for that!
[00:57] <valorie> as long as you can get up the next morning
[00:57] <tsimonq2> Coffee is good
[00:57]  * valorie adds balloons
[00:57] <valorie> and streamers
[00:57] <valorie> YY Approaches!
[00:58] <valorie> big banner ^^^
[01:00] <tsimonq2> valorie: https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/72109329.jpg
[01:01] <tsimonq2> lol
[01:01] <valorie> haha
[01:02] <valorie> I'm thinking we'll never have a "kubuntu conf" as such
[01:02] <valorie> but we can sure party like we own it
[01:03] <tsimonq2> yeah :D
[01:03] <valorie> given decent bandwidth, at least
[01:03] <tsimonq2> of course :D
[01:05] <valorie> it's no given
[01:06] <valorie> the wifi at the hostel was better than the connectivity at Akademy
[01:06] <valorie> it was decent if you could get on, but I was only connected less than half the time
[01:06] <valorie> totally horrible
[01:06] <valorie> qtcon otoh was just fine
[01:06] <valorie> damn uni
[01:22] <ahoneybun> what is ktp-call-ui?
[01:22] <ahoneybun> it just got accepted in #ubuntu-release
[01:23] <ahoneybun> mm just getting a black screen on Beta 2 in a VM
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[01:26] <valorie> ahoneybun: sounds like what ktp would use when using it to make a phone call?
[01:26] <valorie> too bad ktp has no maintainer
[01:27] <valorie> :(
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[03:24] <tsimonq2> !info discover
[03:24] <tsimonq2> ??!!??
[03:30] <valorie> that packagename existed in Debian before the new KDE app was named
[03:30] <valorie> therefore it has to be called plasma-discover or KDE-discover
[03:30] <tsimonq2> !info plasma-discover
[03:31] <tsimonq2> ohhhhhhhhhhhh
[03:34] <tsimonq2> so I'm staging Plasma 5.8 in the Ninja PPA
[03:34] <ahoneybun> is there another Qt bump?
[03:34] <tsimonq2> I don't think so
[03:35] <ahoneybun> nice
[03:35] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kcoreaddons build #259: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 10 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kcoreaddons/259/
[03:35] <ahoneybun> damn man it takes 3:30 hours to render 1:30hr
[03:35] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kcrash build #143: STILL UNSTABLE in 39 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kcrash/143/
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[03:35] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kidletime build #268: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 11 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kidletime/268/
[03:38] <tsimonq2> wow, this is my first time using KDE Plasma on a fresh install in a LONG time
[03:39] <tsimonq2> I really really like it :)
[03:39] <tsimonq2> I've been using LXQt this whole time :P
[03:39] <valorie> it's sweet
[03:40] <ahoneybun> Plamsa has been awesome since the last update
[03:40] <tsimonq2> man I've been missing out
[03:40] <ahoneybun> since Breeze is fixed now
[03:41] <ahoneybun> have we news of the slideshow?
[03:41] <tsimonq2> nope
[03:41] <ahoneybun> if we decide on the QML idea: http://jucato.logbert.org/blog/using-qt-quick-for-prototyping?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
[03:42] <tsimonq2> I assume that needs to be fixed for Yakkety?
[03:42] <tsimonq2> is it release-critical?
[03:42] <ahoneybun> well it's not a system braker
[03:43] <ahoneybun> but it's rather bad not to have a slideshow
[03:43]  * tsimonq2 gets Planet Ubuntu notifications and goes to read valorie's posts
[03:43] <ahoneybun> the issue is the move from PyQt4 to PyQt5
[03:43] <tsimonq2> s/posts/post/
[03:43] <tsimonq2> yeah
[03:44] <ahoneybun> none of us have written about the issue in a blog or post I think though
[03:45] <valorie> I haven't
[03:45] <valorie> I don't think I have the expertise necessary to write about it
[03:46] <ahoneybun> I think yofell myself and blaze know the most
[03:46] <ahoneybun> about this issue anyway
[03:46] <ahoneybun> but I don't know python that well at all tbh
[03:47] <tsimonq2> if you guys classify this as urgent enough, I'll spend my day tomorrow finishing
[03:47] <ahoneybun> it does have a bug report btw tsimonq2 ;P
[03:47] <tsimonq2> ooh what's the bug number?
[03:47] <ahoneybun> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1615799
[03:48] <ahoneybun> clem from Linux Mint was in here trying to help with it
[03:48] <ahoneybun> but they have not made any changes to their PyQt versions I think so they are not effected YET
[03:49] <ahoneybun> tsimonq2: should I assign you to it unless you beat me to it
[03:49] <tsimonq2> ahoneybun: I'm on it
[03:50] <ahoneybun> tsimonq2: blaze's work so far: https://code.launchpad.net/~blaze/+junk/ubiquity
[03:50] <tsimonq2> ahoneybun: you now have something to bug me about :P
[03:50]  * tsimonq2 knows
[03:50] <ahoneybun> I'm not going to do that
[04:00] <ahoneybun> wow GitKraken can make the merge request too
[04:01] <tsimonq2> GUI Git clients :/
[04:02] <ahoneybun> yea it's pretty nice
[04:03] <tsimonq2> for a regular user I can see it's purpose
[04:03] <tsimonq2> but CLI for me!
[04:03] <tsimonq2> (although I still like Thunderbird <3)
[04:03] <ahoneybun> I mostly cli too
[04:04] <ahoneybun> I want to use my macro keys for git commands lol
[04:04] <tsimonq2> ahoneybun: want to take Plasma 5.8.0 for a test run? :D
[04:05] <tsimonq2> how about you valorie>
[04:05] <ahoneybun> mm I would but I need a machine to edit the KP show lol
[04:05] <valorie> cli for git is more clear for me
[04:05] <valorie> I have a VM I can use
[04:06] <ahoneybun> tsimonq2: valorie http://imgur.com/a/RoRpY
[04:08] <tsimonq2> looks nice
[04:08] <tsimonq2> but not for me
[04:16] <ahoneybun> it's pretty cool with a monitor that's sideways
[04:25] <ahoneybun> mm still odd that kdenlive does not have ogg format for audio only render
[04:25] <ahoneybun> and yes tsimonq2 I filed a bug
[04:25] <ahoneybun> somewher
[04:25] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[04:25] <tsimonq2> lol
[04:25] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_discover build #115: FIXED in 25 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_discover/115/
[04:26] <tsimonq2> ey that's pretty good ^
[04:26] <ahoneybun> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365909
[04:26] <ahoneybun> I don't have the newest version but I did not see it in the feature list of the new release anyway
[04:27] <ahoneybun> what version is that tsimonq2
[04:27] <ahoneybun> ?
[04:28] <tsimonq2> huh?
[04:29] <ahoneybun> of Discover
[04:29] <ahoneybun> I'm trying to find a link to it from KCI
[04:30] <tsimonq2> idk
[04:32] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kpty build #271: UNSTABLE in 53 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kpty/271/
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[04:32] <ahoneybun> I guess finding that is a lost cause then
[04:33] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[04:33] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_dolphin build #473: FIXED in 23 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_dolphin/473/
[04:33] <tsimonq2> ^^^^^^
[04:35] <valorie> oh good
[04:35] <valorie> even one green is a victory
[04:35] <tsimonq2> yep
[04:35] <tsimonq2> I'm merge vanguard :P
[04:36] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_kate build #796: STILL FAILING in 16 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_kate/796/
[04:37] <tsimonq2> ooh that's my fault :(
[04:39] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[04:39] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_kate build #797: FIXED in 22 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_kate/797/
[04:41] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[04:41] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_kdenetwork-filesharing build #208: FIXED in 21 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_kdenetwork-filesharing/208/
[04:55] <tsimonq2> valorie: who is an IRC op for this channel?
[04:57] <ahoneybun> all the KC *should be*
[04:57] <ahoneybun> I always forget the commands though
[04:58] <tsimonq2> the !ninjas flag should be updated
[05:01] <tsimonq2> !info qtpositioning5-dev
[05:03] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[05:03] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_kdepim-runtime build #491: FIXED in 26 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_kdepim-runtime/491/
[05:05] <valorie> tsimonq2: you can find out the ops for a channel by doing /msg chanserv access #kubuntu-devel list
[05:05] <valorie> or so
[05:06] <valorie> results in your server tab
[05:07] <tsimonq2> ahh yes, you have op valorie ;)
[05:07] <valorie> yes
[05:07] <valorie> but clive doesn't
[05:08] <tsimonq2> valorie: please edit the !ninjas trigger
[05:09] <valorie> not sure I know how to do that, but I'll try to figure it out
[05:09] <valorie> tsimonq2: edit it from what to what?
[05:09] <tsimonq2> I think something like !ninjas edit NAMES
[05:10] <valorie> !ninjas edit NAMES
[05:11] <valorie> I'll ask in the ops chan
[05:11] <tsimonq2> edit ninjas?
[05:11] <tsimonq2> !edit ninjas
[05:11] <tsimonq2> :(
[05:12] <tsimonq2> !ninjas
[05:12] <tsimonq2> OH
[05:12] <valorie> oh what?
[05:12] <tsimonq2> valorie: we need to add santa_ and make it more creative :)
[05:12] <valorie> it used to be more fun
[05:12] <tsimonq2> like what? :D
[05:13] <valorie> not sure
[05:13] <tsimonq2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23263398/
[05:13] <tsimonq2> how about that?
[05:13] <valorie> well, people get flagged a bit too often already
[05:14] <tsimonq2> valorie: https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/03/07/%23ubuntu-ops.html#t23:21
[05:15] <tsimonq2> valorie: try it, if it doesn't work, then let's stop pinging people ;)
[05:16] <valorie> I don't like your version though
[05:16] <tsimonq2> you have anything in mind?
[05:17] <valorie> thinking
[05:19] <valorie> !forget ninjas
[05:19] <tsimonq2> !hello
[05:19] <tsimonq2> ok good it's here
[05:23] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_kdiamond build #598: STILL FAILING in 18 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_kdiamond/598/
[05:24] <valorie> I've asked for the changes in #ubuntu-ops
[05:24] <valorie> obv. I don't have enough permissions
[05:25] <tsimonq2> oh
[05:25] <tsimonq2> ok
[06:01] <tsimonq2> OK...  I got all the build failure emails!
[06:23]  * tsimonq2 nods
[06:23] <tsimonq2> fun stuff to fix ;)
[06:23] <ejat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23263607/
[06:23] <ejat> anyone can advise me ?
[06:24] <acheronuk> ejat: what release is that on and with what ppas?
[06:24] <ejat> yakkety
[06:24] <ejat> yakkety-proposed
[06:26] <acheronuk> ejat: at the moment kde applications in yakkety-proposed are not completely built. so that sort of thing is likely until it all shakes down and we get some problem packages sorted
[06:27] <ejat> so which ppa i should add
[06:28] <tsimonq2> none of them...
[06:28] <tsimonq2> ejat: sometimes using yakkety-proposed is dangerous
[06:28] <ejat> :( .. so i just need  to wait ?
[06:28] <ejat> :(
[06:28] <ejat> i've installed some of its
[06:28] <acheronuk> ejat: even the devs here don't run with the proposed repo enabled
[06:29] <tsimonq2> ^
[06:29] <ejat> ok thanks for the advice ..
[06:29] <acheronuk> ejat, well there are some you *could* add
[06:29] <acheronuk> if you must fix your system
[06:31] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: any ideas? https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/10979698
[06:32] <acheronuk> ejat: our 3 staging ppas represent what should eventually build for yakkety, but they are serious testers only who know how to disable and remove the packages if things go south with them
[06:32] <tsimonq2> ejat: and either way, #kubuntu is the best place for this :)
[06:33] <tsimonq2> ok I really need some sleep, if you want to help acheronuk, my linode has what I was in the middle of, it's not hard to pick up where I left off ;)
[06:33] <tsimonq2> o/
[06:33] <acheronuk> ejat: I am running yakkety with those and have a complete package set. but it is not recommended
[06:33] <ejat> acheronuk: its ok ..
[06:34] <ejat> i willing to test :)
[06:34] <ejat> which of the 3 stagging ppas
[06:34] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: either a header file missing from a dependency, or missing as it can't find it under the right path
[06:34] <ejat> kde apps ?
[06:34] <ejat> plasme ?
[06:35] <acheronuk> ejat: let me look for a sec
[06:36] <ejat> ok thanks acheronuk
[06:37] <acheronuk> ejat: the apps ppa contains a plasma 5.7.5 build as well, so you could just try that at first.
[06:38] <acheronuk> PLEASE inspect carefully what the upgrade proposes to do!
[06:39] <acheronuk> a bear in mind that the staging ppa is nether recommended or supported in the slightest. it is out work in progress.
[06:39] <ejat> ok
[06:39] <acheronuk> as the phrase goes, "if it breaks your system, you get to keep both halfs"
[06:41] <acheronuk> I have all 3 staging ppa enabled here, so can't say 100% how adding juts the apps one will go.
[06:45] <ejat> kdeapp n plasma for the time being
[06:54] <valorie> niters all
[06:57] <ejat> nite valorie
[07:01] <ejat> acheronuk: so far so good ..
[07:05] <acheronuk> ejat: good :)
[08:13] <acheronuk> santa_: release suggests that this is an ABI break https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kidentitymanagement.git&a=commit&h=72ebfa3b184d31c3cafb0b95a93caf7afadaf7cd
[08:13] <acheronuk> santa_: but seems that it says: 'Private class that helps to provide binary compatibility between releases'
[08:14] <acheronuk> so maybe not?
[08:21] <acheronuk> .
[08:21] <acheronuk> libkeduvocdocument is also meant to be an ABI break
[08:27] <ejat> i should disable the proposed now i think
[09:23] <acheronuk> debian now have frameworks 5.26 in unstable, so that is another package set to sync with debian packaging when we are able
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[10:55] <mparillo> ahoneybun: Regarding black screen with breeze mouse pointer in YY Beta2 ISO, I added my comments here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/1627348 and marked the bug in this test case: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/367/builds/131689/testcases/1451/results/
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[13:44] <ahoneybun> thanks mparillo
[13:48] <ahoneybun> oh this time I got the panel on
[13:50] <ahoneybun> I'm missing the desktop widget to install
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[14:01] <mparillo> ahoneybun: I wondered if it was some kind of race condition because once, when I was re-booting my host and the physical disk was spinning furiously, I was able to see Plasma and install.
[14:02] <ahoneybun> well this is just getting into the live session
[14:03] <ahoneybun> I just don't see the widget with the install shortcut
[14:03] <ahoneybun> I found it in kickoff though and I'm installing now
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[14:21] <ahoneybun> mm I had to reboot again and add the panel back for some reason
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[16:29] <BluesKaj> hey folks
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[17:11] <acheronuk> santa_: you about?
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[19:05] <valorie> huh, yakkety_unstable green, xenial red
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[19:17] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: you do anything on my linode?
[19:17] <acheronuk> not recently
[19:17] <tsimonq2> ok good
[19:18] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: you'll be the only other person with access then
[19:26] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: what are you up to?
[19:30] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: staging plasma 5.8.0
[19:30] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: once it's officially released, I think we can stage it then
[19:32] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: do you think after I'm done bumping all the plasma deps, I should bump all the frameworks deps?
[19:32] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: (from 5.24 to 5.26)
[19:32] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: please don't touch git or staging ppas without OK'ing it with clivejo first
[19:32] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: and when will Plasma 5.7.5, Frameworks 5.26, and Apps 16.04.3 go in staging?
[19:33] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: well of course, but I'm at the very minimum prepping them in a private area
[19:34] <acheronuk> Plasma 5.7.5, Frameworks 5.26, and Apps 16.04.3 are already in staging
[19:34] <tsimonq2> s/staging/backports/
[19:34] <tsimonq2> sorry lol
[19:36] <acheronuk> some of that can probably go in backports-landing, but the qt ABI transition checks etc still need to be gone through and working out what needs copying over from the phone overlay ppa, or rebuilding
[19:36] <tsimonq2> ok
[19:36] <acheronuk> then testing that, before it actually goes in backports
[19:37]  * tsimonq2 nods
[19:37] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: what about bumping the build deps on the plasma packages to Frameworks 5.26? do you object?
[19:39] <acheronuk> well, what you are doing now is not going to get pushed to git, so it's up to you I suppose
[19:39] <tsimonq2> why won't it get pushed to git?!?
[19:39] <tsimonq2> when we just copy it to staging PPAs, shouldn't that go in git?!?
[19:39] <tsimonq2> I'm not doing this for no reason...
[19:40] <acheronuk> because we need to set up other branches, and maybe sync with debian
[19:41] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: at the very minimum, can't the packaging be copied over to a git branch once it goes into the staging PPAs? I'm sure we can set up a script to do that...
[19:41] <tsimonq2> to just commit the differences
[19:42] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: because obviously that would all go in backports, right?
[19:42] <tsimonq2> don't tell me later I'm going to have to start from scratch :(
[19:42] <acheronuk> maybe. have to ask clive on that, as he has been around when switching and creating branches for the next release has been done
[19:43] <tsimonq2> clivejo: ping, I need your answers on a bunch of things
[19:47] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: did you fix those git tags from a little while ago that didn't have the ubuntu/ prefix before?
[19:47] <acheronuk> I can't quite recall exactly what they were on....
[19:48] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: yes I did
[19:48] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: cool :) there is no way to search our git, so was hard to check
[20:10]  * clivejo hold nose at the pongy tsimonq2
[20:10] <tsimonq2> clivejo: I'm staging Plasma 5.8.0 in the ninja PPA
[20:11] <tsimonq2> clivejo: does that go in Git anywhere?
[20:11] <clivejo> staging using what branch?
[20:12] <tsimonq2> I pushed *nothing*, but kubuntu_yakkety_archive
[20:12] <clivejo> did anyone help you with it, ie santa_
[20:12] <tsimonq2> nope
[20:12] <clivejo> he was working on tooling to auto merge unstable
[20:12] <tsimonq2> YAY!
[20:13]  * acheronuk remembers that now. doh.
[20:14] <clivejo> tsimonq2: I would fix up KCI first
[20:14] <clivejo> get all the plasma related packages building and in the green
[20:14] <clivejo> 5.8 has only just hit depot
[20:14]  * tsimonq2 slowly nods
[20:14] <tsimonq2> why?!?
[20:15] <clivejo> why what?
[20:15] <tsimonq2> "< clivejo> tsimonq2: I would fix up KCI first"
[20:16] <clivejo> so that packages build
[20:16] <tsimonq2> why am I so impatient /o\
[20:17] <tsimonq2> clivejo: already in the PPA. already have build errors. already working to fix them.
[20:17] <clivejo> and where you gonna pull the fixes to?
[20:17] <clivejo> push
[20:17] <acheronuk> what are debian doing on 5.8. I *think* we really need to resync packaging with them as soon as we can on ZZ cycle, as things have got more than a tad out of sync!
[20:17] <acheronuk> ^^^ applies to FW and apps as well
[20:17] <clivejo> acheronuk: agreed, but that is hard work
[20:18] <acheronuk> debian has frameworks 5.26 now
[20:18] <acheronuk> clivejo: yes, I know it is. I am prepared to spend some time if required
[20:18] <tsimonq2> clivejo: that's what I wanted to ask you
[20:19] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: I just pinged maxy earlier asking about that
[20:19] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: hmmm. so I see
[20:19] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: maybe I can get a diff of what I'm doing and work with Debian to upstream. In the meantime, getting things in backports would be good
[20:20] <tsimonq2> don't you agree?
[20:20] <tsimonq2> I mean I was impatient and just worked to get it good to go in the ninja PPA
[20:20] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: also need to see how much Neon is doing to sync with debian on 5.8 packaging
[20:20] <tsimonq2> but ideally in the future when I remember and I'm not impatient we should do it ALL upstream
[20:21] <tsimonq2> argh /o\
[20:22] <tsimonq2> failure in the PPA that isn't in KCI :(
[20:22] <clivejo> did you merge unstable?
[20:22] <clivejo> or just yakkety?
[20:23] <tsimonq2> clivejo: I used the staging-upload script
[20:23] <acheronuk> unstable make be a bit ahead of 5.8 now on a few packages, but not that many. I have not fixed much plasma on there recently
[20:23] <clivejo> did you add any options?
[20:24] <tsimonq2> what options specifically?
[20:24] <clivejo> -b unstable
[20:25] <tsimonq2> nope
[20:26] <tsimonq2> clivejo: should I have?
[20:26] <clivejo> well unstable is the closest we have to the actual 5.8 release
[20:26] <acheronuk> well, yakkety_archive is 5.7.5 and bound to fail on a LOT
[20:27] <valorie> don't we download the tarballs from depot?
[20:27] <acheronuk> valorie: yes
[20:27] <tsimonq2> clivejo: should I assess diffs compared to unstable if it fails in KCI?
[20:27] <tsimonq2> correct valorie, I did that
[20:27] <clivejo> the staging script looks on depot for the version you tell it to
[20:28] <clivejo> the tarballs are released earlier for packagers
[20:28] <tsimonq2> which it did
[20:28] <clivejo> and only on depot
[20:28] <clivejo> before they become available on download.kde.org
[20:29] <acheronuk> for example I think that failure on kwin needs a whole library version bump compared to 5.7.5
[20:29] <tsimonq2> like I said, I'll diff
[20:30] <tsimonq2> clivejo: and for the future, was the ninja PPA the right place to do that?
[20:30] <clivejo> Ive never seen it done there
[20:30] <clivejo> we stage to staging
[20:30] <tsimonq2> ah ok
[20:31] <acheronuk> ie.e on kwin: https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kwin/commit/?h=kubuntu_unstable&id=bd2a8621d74efc915c29efb7f5435e7d2666df5a
[20:31] <tsimonq2> so in the future I'll do that ;)
[20:31] <clivejo> but in my opinion you are jumping the gun
[20:31] <acheronuk> which I did for KCI
[20:31] <tsimonq2> clivejo: why is that?
[20:31] <valorie> tsimonq2: 'cause we need to get YY out the door!
[20:32] <clivejo> I dont think it going to have any chance of getting into YY at this stage
[20:32] <tsimonq2> that's not my goa
[20:32] <tsimonq2> *goal
[20:32] <valorie> me either, and we agreed in advance that it couldn't
[20:32] <tsimonq2> my goal is for it to be ready for testing when it gets officially released
[20:33] <acheronuk> we don't even have branches for ZZ yet, and honesty I think it may pay dividends to hold off a short while to see what debian/Neon do with it
[20:33] <clivejo> then fix KCI
[20:33] <clivejo> like rick has done
[20:33] <clivejo> Rik
[20:34] <acheronuk> plus there are going to be 3 bugfix releases for 5.8 in October alone, so we are going to have to re-stage multiple times no matter what!
[20:34] <tsimonq2> I wish I hadn't been impatient and putten an hour into it :(
[20:34] <clivejo> build from the _unstable branch, upload to your own PPA
[20:34] <tsimonq2> well it's too late for that
[20:35] <valorie> eh, it's just an hour
[20:35] <valorie> we just need to get fixing, syncing or whatever
[20:35] <valorie> YY
[20:35] <acheronuk> valorie: indeed!
[20:36] <acheronuk> valorie: final YY freeze is 6th October
[20:36] <tsimonq2> well I mean I'm almost done
[20:36] <valorie> and it's already sorta frozen
[20:36] <acheronuk> valorie: true
[20:36] <tsimonq2> I *really* don't feel like discarding what I've done
[20:36] <valorie> they seem very friendly and willing to work with us
[20:36] <tsimonq2> so if you're worried that I'm jumping the gun because we have other stuff to do, too late
[20:36] <clivejo> tsimonq2: gonna ask you straight out, are you wanting your name/email on packages or something?
[20:37] <tsimonq2> clivejo: I want Plasma 5.8.0.
[20:37] <tsimonq2> that's what I want
[20:37] <clivejo> what do you mean you want it?
[20:37] <tsimonq2> I want to be able to use and test it and get it in the proper places
[20:37] <tsimonq2> it doesn't matter if it's my name on it
[20:37] <clivejo> go grab Neon packaging and build from that?
[20:38] <tsimonq2> clivejo: so to answer your question, no
[20:38] <clivejo> tsimonq2: yes I was a lot like you a few months ago, but Ubuntu has a release cycle
[20:38] <tsimonq2> but because I'm impatient and didn't ask you all first (:() I just went ahead and did it
[20:38] <tsimonq2> but Kubuntu has a backports PPA
[20:39] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: we need a proper plan for 5.8 really. not done 'ad hoc'
[20:39] <tsimonq2> clivejo: I don't care about it doing in Yakkety archive
[20:39] <clivejo> but we have a workflow
[20:39] <acheronuk> where to put it. what branches to use. when. how and when to sync packaging
[20:39] <clivejo> you stage for +1 and then backport
[20:39] <tsimonq2> fine, I'll scrap everything if I wasn't supposed to do it yet
[20:40] <clivejo> +1 is now on Freeze
[20:40] <clivejo> so we need to put effort into fixing up YY
[20:42] <acheronuk> yep. for example... santa_ does this look ok for apps? http://paste.ubuntu.com/23267082/
[20:42] <tsimonq2> all scrapped
[20:43] <clivejo> tsimonq2: if you want to help get 5.8 in shape, fix it on KCI
[20:43] <tsimonq2> will do
[20:44] <clivejo> when we come to stage it, should be quick and easy
[20:45] <acheronuk> and in the meantime, debian/Neon will have ironed many of the kinks we may struggle with right now
[20:45] <acheronuk> *ironed out
[20:46] <tsimonq2> should we try to merge from Neon as well?
[20:46] <clivejo> no
[20:46] <clivejo> debian is our upstream
[20:46] <tsimonq2> ok
[20:46] <clivejo> but can cherrypick from Neon
[20:47] <clivejo> sometimes debian and neon do things differently!
[20:49]  * clivejo would like to see KCI building stable branch again
[20:50]  * acheronuk +1
[20:50] <clivejo> I need to sit down and learn how KCI works
[20:50] <clivejo> write some proper notes
[20:52] <tsimonq2> and I really really REALLY think at the VERY minimum that part of KCI needs to be rewritten
[20:53] <clivejo> rewiritten for what?
[20:53] <tsimonq2> in Python
[20:54] <acheronuk> some of the ruby makes sense. some of it is like reading an alien language
[20:55] <tsimonq2> ^^
[20:55] <acheronuk> and usually the latter is the bit you need to undertand!
[20:56] <acheronuk> I don't feel hugly motivated to learn ruby at this point either. if ever
[20:56] <tsimonq2> +1
[20:57] <acheronuk> I need to brush up python and C++ I think. but I digress....
[21:28] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[22:26] <tsimonq2> now we can actually figure out what's wrong with kde-baseapps
[22:26] <tsimonq2> fixed the patch error
[22:27] <clivejo> how did you fix it?
[22:28] <tsimonq2> clivejo: it just needed a quilt refresh, no manual intervention
[22:29] <tsimonq2> clivejo: then I just fixed incidenceeditor (or whatever the exact name is, I copy/pasted) by removing a patch that was applied upstream already
[22:29] <tsimonq2> clivejo: (it was just backported)
[22:31] <acheronuk> yes, baseapps has just been ported to kf5? I think I saw that, which probably means the ABI manager can be ditched?
[22:32] <tsimonq2> idk
[22:32] <tsimonq2> someone for the love of god please just update the akonadi symbols :/
[22:33] <clivejo> tsimonq2: great practice for you!
[22:33] <tsimonq2> frick
[22:34] <tsimonq2> frick frick frick
[22:34] <tsimonq2> ok I'll break KCI now :P
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[22:38] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: https://twitter.com/kdeneon/status/778926726831374337
[22:39]  * tsimonq2 follows
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 @ovidiuflorin: I'm keeping notes here: https://notes.kde.org/p/PootleInstallation ↗ (https://integram.org/a/UhIC1KuO4g)
 @ovidiuflorin, thanks
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[23:53] <tsimonq2> ^ FUN
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[23:58] <tsimonq2> !info 	libclang-3.9-dev
[23:58] <tsimonq2> !info libclang-dev