[09:50] <fyrestrtr> screechingcat: do you have enough hard disk space?
[09:50] <Arafangi1n> screechingcat: It just worked for me (tm)
[09:50] <ChrisNiemy> Hi! Nvidia released version 1.0-8774 of the driver. I use an customized kernel and compiled always form nvidia-kernel-source from the ubuntu repo.  but where can i get this source from the new driver?
[09:50] <Arafangi1n> screechingcat: But, before, it crashed hard.
[09:50] <Andy> how do i install network-manager????
[09:50] <screechingcat> enuogh hard disk space for what ?
[09:51] <jn-> hola
[09:51] <Arafangi1n> screechingcat: Before that, I could only do standby, if I used a custom script.
[09:51] <chris449> can someone please tell me if and if so how to log in in rescue mode?
[09:51] <Arafangi1n> screechingcat: Haven't checked.
[09:51] <Andy> can someone help: how do i install network-manager?
[09:51] <Arafangi1n> screechingcat: But at the time I tested, I wasn't using all of the memory.
[09:51] <Arafangi1n> Andy: Should be there by default.
[09:52] <ChrisNiemy> I can't find anything on ftp://download.nvidia.com  so where is the package nvidia-kernel-source made from?
[09:52] <jn-> im going through dependency hell tonight. i am trying to get the new fluxbox installed.. which requires libc6 2.3.6 which requires tzdata 2006g-2 which gives errors :(((
[09:52] <Andy> oh but
[09:52] <Andy> if i type nm-applet
[09:52] <Andy> nothing comes up
[09:52] <Arafangi1n> Andy: You could try: "network-manager"
[09:52] <Andy> in terminal?
[09:52] <screechingcat> BTW, does anyone here know how to get back usplash after a kernel upgrade ?
[09:52] <Arafangi1n> Andy: Yes.
[09:52] <Andy> nope
[09:52] <Andy> tried it b4
[09:52] <jn-> is there a way to apt-get libc6 2.3.6
[09:52] <Andy> doesn't work
[09:52] <ChrisNiemy> jn-: oh, good luck, also tried something with tzdata an libc newer packages, but was too afraid. better check on a testing system
[09:52] <jn-> or 2.3.5
[09:52] <Andy> and iv tried to install it but its not there :(
[09:52] <Arafangi1n> Andy: Hmm, it's called "network-admin"
[09:52] <Crazed> lol no one on efnet/egghelp knows it :S
[09:52] <fyrestrtr> sintax] : well, setting up a samba as bdc is a *slightly* complex process (sarcasm) -- so I have a feeling you haven't done that.
[09:52] <Crazed> crappy help :p
[09:52] <JoseStefan> !info libc6
[09:53] <ubotu> libc6: GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data. In component main, is required. Version 2.3.6-0ubuntu20 (dapper), package size 4480 kB, installed size 9932 kB
[09:53] <jn-> ChrisNiemy: what are you afraid of?
[09:53] <Andy> so i type network-admin in terminal?
[09:53] <chris449> so no one knows how to log in in rescue mode???
[09:53] <Arafangi1n> fyrestrtr: But the samba team makes it seem so easy! :)
[09:53] <Arafangi1n> Andy: Yes
[09:53] <Andy> yay :)
[09:53] <Andy> ty
[09:53] <ChrisNiemy> jn-: installing libc... newer stuff and tzdara... afraid of messing up dependencies ;)
[09:53] <JoseStefan> jn-, sudo apt-get install libc6
[09:53] <jn-> done that jose, i guess i need 2.3.5...
[09:54] <fyrestrtr> Arafangi1n: why sure,  I configure kerberos, ticket updating and logging in in my sleep with one hand!
[09:54] <screechingcat> Hey guys, i just went over to the moon market next to my house. they're selling SLED 10-s for 250bucks
[09:54] <jn-> i thought i had 2.3.4 but after doing libc6 it says i have newest
[09:54] <heikkih> fyrestrtr: thanks
[09:54] <sintax] > well fyrestrtr on the windows server side i did but i doubt i did it exactly correct
[09:54] <jn-> libc6 is already the newest version.
[09:54] <sintax] > i did read a tutorial on an ubuntu site
[09:54] <screechingcat> first time i saw a pirated linux OS
[09:54] <jn-> why hasnt fluxbox been updated to a newer version
[09:54] <jn-> in apt
[09:54] <sintax] > but anyways does that specificaly affect the situation i'm trying to do ?
[09:54] <jn-> that would make my life easier
[09:55] <Arafangi1n> screechingcat: Why would you pirate a linux distro?
[09:55] <screechingcat> not me.
[09:55] <sintax] > HOW do you pirate a linux OS ?
[09:55] <fyrestrtr> sintax] : well it may and it may not, depending on your AD setup. Your error is because the connection is denied from the host machine, which may mean, that the AD policy is denying you access because you aren't part of the AD.
[09:55] <sintax] > theyre free
[09:55] <Axe_> I accidently messed up my xorg.conf file, how can I restore it
[09:55] <screechingcat> i saw it at my local moon market
[09:55] <fyrestrtr> sintax] : ie, your machine doesn't have an account in the AD.
[09:55] <screechingcat> SLED 10 aint free
[09:55] <Arafangi1n> sintax] : Not all distros are free.
[09:56] <screechingcat> its 250 indian rupees
[09:56] <jn-> !info fluxbox
[09:56] <ubotu> fluxbox: Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.14-2 (dapper), package size 720 kB, installed size 2288 kB
[09:56] <jn-> boo
[09:56] <jn-> !info libc6
[09:56] <ubotu> libc6: GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data. In component main, is required. Version 2.3.6-0ubuntu20 (dapper), package size 4480 kB, installed size 9932 kB
[09:56] <screechingcat> thats roughly 5 dollars or so
[09:56] <jn-> hm
[09:56] <JoseStefan> sintax] , you can tecnically package it into a bright box and sell it without permission, that's piracy
[09:56] <sintax] > lol
[09:56] <ChrisNiemy> Axe_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (for example) than you can manually re-edit it with gedit or so
[09:56] <ompaul> !msgthebot  > jn-
[09:56] <jn-> how would i go about reverting to 2.3.5
[09:56] <jn-> in libc
[09:56] <chris449> please i need help, no one can tell me how to login in rescue mode, or failing a need to login, why my rescue mode prompt won't run any commands?
[09:56] <Arafangi1n> jn-: You don't.
[09:56] <Arafangi1n> jn-: You leave libc alone.
[09:57] <Axe_> ChrisNiemy: So that will restore the xorg.conf file to say, the version that installs with ubuntu?
[09:57] <ChrisNiemy> i have a question about the package nvidia-kernel-source... is there on available from the new driver (1.0-8774)??
[09:57] <jn-> Arafangi1n: i am not able to compile fluxbox 1.0rc2 with 2.3.6...
[09:57] <jn-> and the repos dont have it
[09:57] <visik7> ChrisNiemy: no there isn't
[09:57] <sintax] > is daemon pronounce daymen or demon
[09:57] <sintax] > lol
[09:57] <jn-> day mon
[09:57] <JoseStefan> jn-, you dont need to downgrade (http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/x11/fluxbox)
[09:57] <JoseStefan> jn-, it says  libc6 (>= 2.3.4-1)
[09:57] <Arafangi1n> jn-: More to the point, you *can't* downgrade libc.
[09:58] <ChrisNiemy> Axe_: this command asks you some questions and detects hardware. dann there is a basic xorg.conf again (likely how it is after installing)
[09:58] <screechingcat> anyone know any good dock apps for Gnome ?
[09:58] <fyrestrtr> Arafangi1n: heh, well you *can* -- but no one would do it.
[09:58] <Axe_> alright, thanks
[09:58] <ChrisNiemy> Axe_: but why restore? have you deleted the old one?
[09:58] <jn-> JoseStefan: that rls is old.. 9.15 has been out
[09:58] <fyrestrtr> screechingcat: bubbles :)
[09:58] <Arafangi1n> fyrestrtr: I'm not sure if that's technically a "downgrade", it's more of a replacement of the entire OS.
[09:58] <jn-> 1.0rc2 now
[09:58] <ChrisNiemy> Axe_: Maybe it's easy manually to fix
[09:58] <screechingcat> is it in the repos ?
[09:59] <jn-> i have 9.14 but id like to get the newer version
[09:59] <sintax] > fyrestrtr
[09:59] <ChrisNiemy> visik7: can i make a package myself?
[09:59] <sintax] > apparently it worked now
[09:59] <jn-> nope all i see is 9.14 in the repos
[09:59] <sintax] > but
[09:59] <visik7> ChrisNiemy: not easily
[09:59] <JoseStefan> jn-, dependencies are usually "greater than or equal to #"
[09:59] <jn-> someone should add the newest versions i mean there's been a few since 9.14
[09:59] <sintax] > fyrestrtr ls: /media/S-Drie: permission denied
[09:59] <sintax] > i dont get it
[09:59] <jn-> and fluxbox is a good alt to gnome
[10:00] <jn-> or kde..
[10:00] <sintax] > it mounts fine, authenticates fine
[10:00] <sintax] > i sniffed the login session in windows, it was successful
[10:00] <Arafangi1n> jn-: No they're not - they're a different class altogether.
[10:00] <sir_hc> ok, so it wasnt' working on the other comp, i thought i'd try a different one. does anyone know how to login to the rescue prompt? if you don't need to log in then why doesn't mine execute any commands?
[10:00] <sintax] > the NTLM hashes match up to my password hash
[10:00] <jn-> Arafangi1n: ?
[10:00] <fyrestrtr> sintax] : type mount -- what are the options for that device?
[10:00] <ChrisNiemy> visik7: mhm, i am between newbie and semi-pro ^^  . i am wondering how the developers make this package nvidia-kernel-source.
[10:00] <Arafangi1n> jn-: gnome, kde, xfce, e17, are all destktop environments, flux is a wm only.
[10:00] <sintax] > oh i think i founda problem
[10:01] <visik7> ChrisNiemy: check motu docs and debian manainers guides
[10:01] <sintax] > ?------ ? ?     ?       ?         ?                ? /media/S-Drive via ls -al /media
[10:01] <Arafangi1n> sintax] : Now, that's censored!
[10:01] <fyrestrtr> sintax] : wow -- nice.
[10:01] <JoseStefan> jn-, try a staticly linked fluxbox
[10:01] <jn-> Arafangi1n: anyway.. i like it.  And it's a shame it's so diffacult to get the newest version.
[10:01] <sintax] > fyrestrtr haha... crap, still denied
[10:01] <jn-> JoseStefan: staticly linked?
[10:02] <fyrestrtr> sintax] : which mount options did you try?
[10:02] <sintax] > i thought it was a messed up dir since the accnt which created it is deleted it in linux
[10:02] <ChrisNiemy> visik7: uh ok, mantainers guide is quiet stuff to read. would be easier to wait, till the package is updated, (once only made a personal meta package myself)
[10:02] <sintax] > exactly as u said
[10:02] <JoseStefan> jn-, aka all libraries built-in
[10:02] <fyrestrtr> sintax] : do you have another user account on that machine, or just root?
[10:02] <jn-> JoseStefan: any clue on where to look for that?
[10:02] <sintax] > smbmount //killer-server/S /media/S -o username=bbq,password=m0l3cul3,uid=0,debug=4,umask=0000,fmask=777
[10:02] <sintax] > i have 3 accnts and 1 root
[10:02] <JoseStefan> jn-, nope, dont know if such thing exists
[10:03] <sintax] > i tried it with sudo but sudo is like... un-verbose
[10:03] <Cine> are there a specific set of packages you need to install to capture video for an IEEE1394 digital camcorder?
[10:03] <sintax] > doesnt echo anything back
[10:03] <sir_hc> usually the people on this channel are so helpful :( but i just want to know how to log in to the rescue prompt, coz that's what the forum post that contains instructions on how to fix my problem says to do
[10:03] <jn-> grr. is there anyway you can see if the newest ver can be added to the repos
[10:03] <sintax] > can i make sudo be as verbose as if i ran the command as root?
[10:03] <JoseStefan> jn-, hoy many depends are missing?
[10:04] <jn-> JoseStefan: libc6
[10:05] <jn-> not satisfactory
[10:06] <JoseStefan> can you paste the command you are using and all the output to the pastebin ?
[10:06] <NineTeen67Comet> Eeek .. Little question .. when I reboot/shutdown .. This box stops on "Will Reboot Now" ..  So I hit the power button for a few seconds and away it went .. keeps doing it though .. ideas?
[10:07] <jn-> jn@jn-laptop:~/Desktop$ sudo dpkg -i fluxbox_<IP_ADDRESS>+1.0rc0-1_i386.deb
[10:07] <Axe> How do Irestart X
[10:07] <jn-> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of fluxbox:
[10:07] <jn->  fluxbox depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6); however:
[10:07] <jn->   Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.6-0ubuntu20.
[10:07] <jn->  fluxbox depends on libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.0); however:
[10:07] <jn->   Version of libgcc1 on system is 1:4.0.3-1ubuntu5.
[10:07] <jn->  fluxbox depends on libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.0); however:
[10:07] <JoseStefan> !pastebin
[10:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:07] <jn->   Version of libstdc++6 on system is 4.0.3-1ubuntu5.
[10:08] <jn-> im sorry i thought you said paste here
[10:08] <Axe> How do I restart X windows?
[10:08] <NineTeen67Comet> Axe: /etc/init.d/gdm restart (or kdm if you are kde) .
[10:08] <Axe> ah
[10:08] <sir_hc> has anyone ever had the active wireless card freezing the boot process problem?
[10:08] <Arafangi1n> jn-: Personally, imho, it's a shame that so many essential features are put into the gnome environment on ubuntu :(
[10:08] <yossman> araf, i've been thinking the same thing
[10:08] <Arafangi1n> jn-: Power management, auto-mounting, keyboard binding, etc.
[10:09] <JoseStefan> jn-, you need newer versions of libc6, not older. That might not be possible without rish of breaking stuff
[10:09] <Arafangi1n> yossman: It's what makes me want to revert to Debian - except debian doesn't support my hardware.
[10:09] <jn-> newer version might not be possible?
[10:09] <yossman> yea Arafangi1n
[10:09] <yossman> i'm using ubuntu  because of its hardware support actually
[10:09] <yossman> i've been pretty impressed so far
[10:09] <sintax] > fyrestrtr that's so weird that I can't even ls the mount
[10:09] <sintax] > it's successful
[10:09] <sir_hc> do i have a big ignore sign on my ip? coz i've asked like 6 different (yet similar) questions in 3 different channels and no one answers...
[10:10] <JoseStefan> jn-, you wont find newer version of lib6c on the ubuntu repos, at least not today
[10:10] <jn-> JoseStefan: what do you advise i do?
[10:10] <Arafangi1n> sir_hc: Perhaps it's because your question simply doesn't make sense.
[10:10] <Arafangi1n> sir_hc: Or perhaps people simply don't know (I suspect hte later, in this case)
[10:11] <sir_hc> Arafangi1n: that's what i thought, but surely someone must know if u can log in to the rescue mode prompt
[10:11] <JoseStefan> jn-, you could try an older version of fluxbox, hopefully with lesser requirements
[10:11] <Arafangi1n> sir_hc: I've never used the rescue mode prompt.
[10:12] <Arafangi1n> sir_hc: I tend to use the live-cd, and chroot into the main system.
[10:12] <sir_hc> Arafangi1n: ah ok, i might try that, i just didn't want to coz it would take forever
[10:12] <redblades> Hi, for a breif time, I was running kubuntu, but I removed it. However, noticed that ps -aux shows some KDE apps, with a \0 next to them.
[10:12] <RMorris84> how do i know if my xgl is working?
[10:12] <redblades> I was wondering how to remove them, or if they are even actually there...
[10:12] <ompaul> RMorris84, go to the channel #ubuntu-xgl and have a chat there
[10:12] <RMorris84> i got the checkered screen and blue background but no cool gfx
[10:12] <sintax] > fyrestrtr Server role: ROLE_DOMAIN_PDC
[10:13] <RMorris84> ompaul nobody talks in there
[10:13] <RMorris84> :(
[10:13] <redblades> RMorris84, try one of the gl screensavers?
[10:13] <sintax] > should i revert the smb conf to default
[10:13] <rast4> can someone tell me what this means please:
[10:13] <rast4> Can't find kernel build files in /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/build;
[10:13] <rast4>   give the path to kernel build directory with
[10:13] <rast4>   KBUILD=<path> argument to make
[10:13] <ompaul> RMorris84, well it is the place for it :-) just give them a moment - it is beta software and not for here
[10:13] <rast4> oops, should have pastebin'd
[10:13] <rast4> sorry
[10:14] <rast4> didn't think it would come out like that, my apologies
[10:14] <rast4> but could someone tell me what's up with that
[10:14] <redblades> rast4, tell everyone what caused it as well.
[10:15] <rast4> I am trying to install Ndiswrapper
[10:15] <redblades> (I mean, what you did just before it appeared_
[10:15] <rast4> to no avail
[10:15] <RMorris84> redblades, when i did that it logged me out
[10:15] <redblades> Oh... I can't help you there... : (
[10:15] <Prohibited> hey does anyone know of any packet sniffers where I can target certain programs running? (eg. firefox, msn, etc.)
[10:15] <rast4> also trying to get a Linksys WPC54G PCMCIA card to work
[10:15] <redblades> RMorris84, then I'm lost again...
[10:15] <achandra> hi just got streamtuner installed what is need to be installed for the record function to work...
[10:15] <achandra> ??
[10:16] <Arafangi1n> How do I route traffic, using iptables, to "the current default route"?
[10:16] <RMorris84> redblades, have u done this before?
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> rast4: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> achandra: sudo aptitude install -r streamtuner
[10:17] <sintax] > grrr samba is retarded
[10:18] <fyrestrtr> Microsoft is even more retarted for adding their own 'extensions' to kerberos and ldap making AD the most uncompatible piece of [bleep]  to work with.
[10:18] <sintax] > fyrestrtr lol
[10:18] <rast4> ty fyrestrtr
[10:19] <sintax] > fyrestrtr well, i installed the default smb.conf
[10:19] <sintax] > and it mounts perfect
[10:19] <sintax] > but it will NOT let me ls the dir
[10:19] <sintax] > permission denied to even see the contents
[10:19] <fyrestrtr> sintax] : just give up lol
[10:19] <fyrestrtr> you shouldn't be watching porn anyway.
[10:19] <achandra> fyrestrtr:yup did that and it basically states 0 files in archive and upacking 0...the synaptic gui show streamtuner to be fully installed..
[10:19] <fyrestrtr> it'll make you blind!
[10:19] <sintax] > porn? lol
[10:19] <fyrestrtr> :P
[10:19] <sintax] > how am i guna watch porn over SSH lol
[10:19] <sintax] > or putty rather
[10:20] <kyja> sintax] , ascii graphics
[10:20] <Tomtheman70> lol
[10:20] <sintax] > mplayer -vo=ascii ?
[10:20] <fyrestrtr> sintax] : pronview -- and yes, that is an actual program.
[10:20] <redblades> RMorris84, no.. why?
[10:20] <fyrestrtr> s/pronview/pornview/
[10:20] <Arafangi1n> And there's always X11 forwarding.
[10:20] <achandra> hmm...lets see you scp the porn file over...from one pc to another...then use mplayer...but i wouldnt know anythign about that..hence even ssh is pron friendly.. :)
[10:20] <RMorris84> its workin but not really
[10:20] <heavydrinker> there is a japanese word for an ascii art fetish
[10:21] <JoseStefan> with 4-bit sounds
[10:21] <sintax] > PornView is an image and movie viewer/manager with thumbnail previews. Additional features includes thumbnail caching, directory tree views, adjustable zoom, and fullscreen view. Slideshows allow for unattended presentation of images for hands-free viewing. Pornview is written using GTK+.
[10:21] <sintax] > hands-free viewing ROFL
[10:21] <achandra> lol
[10:21] <fyrestrtr> key phrase 'hands-free viewing'
[10:21] <RMorris84> lol
[10:21] <sintax] > http://packages.debian.org/unstable/utils/pornview
[10:22] <achandra> wow...thats likely in the unstable repos...
[10:22] <achandra> lol
[10:22] <sintax] > lol
[10:22] <fyrestrtr> !info pornview
[10:22] <sintax] > im gunna reinstall this LAMP server
[10:22] <ubotu> pornview: Image and movie viewer/manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2pre1-5ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 200 kB, installed size 608 kB
[10:22] <sintax] > maybe samba got messed up
[10:22] <Arafangi1n> sintax] : I prefer LAPP :)
[10:22] <fyrestrtr> 'is optional'?! bah, should be 'critical'
[10:22] <Arafangi1n> (Postgresql)
[10:22] <sintax] > lol
[10:22] <fyrestrtr> Arafangi1n: what's the other P for?
[10:22] <sintax] > i dont even know MySQL so i don't care
[10:22] <sintax] > i like MSSQL
[10:23] <Arafangi1n> fyrestrtr: A "p" language. :)
[10:23] <fyrestrtr> Arafangi1n: python? :)
[10:23] <sintax] > ;-\
[10:23] <Arafangi1n> sintax] : As much as MSSQL sucks, it beats the pants off MySQL, I'm sure.
[10:23] <cafuego> They all speak SQL2003 these days, so it's much of a muchness.
[10:23] <Arafangi1n> fyrestrtr: Preferably :)
[10:23] <sintax] > :-D
[10:23] <cafuego> Arafangi1n: Nope.
[10:23] <Arafangi1n> fyrestrtr: Traditionall php or perl.
[10:23] <achandra> well referential integrity is a big big thing with people...so if it has that...great..
[10:24] <Arafangi1n> And type safety.
[10:24] <kallekula> Hi guys
[10:24] <achandra> otherwise a bunch of peeps love postgresql
[10:24] <fyrestrtr> although these days, I'm more into postgresql
[10:24] <Arafangi1n> fyrestrtr: Oracle is the idiot savant of db servers.
[10:24] <sintax] > fyrestrtr haha
[10:24] <cafuego> achandra: yeah, they all do (/me saw a chat on mysql last week)
[10:24] <lupine_85> There's a reason why Delphi used Oracle, eh? ;)
[10:24] <sintax] > dont oracle DB programmers make crazy money ?
[10:24] <JoseStefan> some big websites use MySQL, they dont have issues
[10:24] <fyrestrtr> I have used em all.
[10:24] <ompaul> !offtopic
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[10:24] <fyrestrtr> I hate most of them.
[10:25] <sintax] > ompaul was that neccessary
[10:25] <lupine_85> gender?
[10:25] <Arafangi1n> JoseStefan: MySQL is _very_ fast, but it is also _very_ limited, and is prone to programmatic mistakes.
[10:25] <Tomtheman70> lol it was.
[10:25] <lupine_85> sicne when was gender inappropriate? ;)
[10:25] <sintax] > Arafangi1n and what about MSSQL
[10:25] <cafuego> Arafangi1n: Again, your opinion is based on mysql 3 maybe./
[10:25] <fyrestrtr> so who launched ubotu with the verbose option?
[10:25] <gnejusz> hi
[10:25] <ompaul> part one was what was requested the second part
[10:25] <ompaul> was not
[10:25] <achandra> agrees with Arafangiln
[10:25] <cafuego> Arafangi1n: it not actually limited anymore.
[10:25] <JoseStefan> i think we should stick to ubuntu specific topics
[10:26] <redblades> I have no gender.
[10:26] <achandra> but mysql takes a bad wrap......
[10:26] <lupine_85> that's because you're not an object
[10:26] <Arafangi1n> cafuego: So I'm told, but I still dislike MySQL's data types and default values and treatment of NULL, etc.
[10:26] <gnejusz>  i have problem during installation
[10:26] <lupine_85> (obect have gender, people have sex)
[10:26] <sintax] > damn i need a laptop badly so i can play with ubuntu all day
[10:26] <Arafangi1n> cafuego: Though, I do admit I base my opinion on various websites.
[10:26] <achandra> cafuego: care to share about the myql findings???
[10:26] <sintax] > too bad my phone runs Windows Mobile 5
[10:26] <cafuego> Arafangi1n: That's a matter of what you're used to, nothing to do with the product.
[10:26] <redblades> lupine_85, :-)
[10:26] <achandra> i heard inodb takes care of referential integrity isues now
[10:27] <Arafangi1n> cafuego: This website, in particular: http://sql-info.de/mysql/gotchas.html#id2457388
[10:27] <gnejusz> i want use existing partitions
[10:27] <jn-> Arafangi1n: how do i go about removing something compiled by hand
[10:27] <sintax] > ReiserFS or Ext3
[10:27] <cafuego> achandra: full sql2003 support, referential integrity, more db types, db partitioning, stored procedures.
[10:27] <gnejusz> ext 3
[10:27] <gnejusz> i ve got another linux on this disk
[10:28] <lupine_85>  gnejusz: the alt. install CD (rather than the GUI CD) has much more flexible partition control
[10:28] <Hellevater> sintax] : I need a job that requires I run linux so I can play with ubuntu all day
[10:28] <sintax] > really? ive never used ext3 only reiser
[10:28] <achandra> cafuego: do you have a link or something to those claims...seriously...Id like to take a look...
[10:28] <rast4>  /quit rebooting
[10:28] <lupine_85> reiserfs is much more robust than ext3
[10:28] <Arafangi1n> jn-: CD to the original build directory, pop outside, check the phase of the moon, get back to your computer, reboot into console mode, cd again to the original directory, bless yourself, then the computer, then say the hail mary's, then type "make uninstall", and hope.
[10:28] <ubuntu> hey people, sup?
[10:28] <sintax] > Hellevater lol
[10:28] <cafuego> Arafangi1n: yes, I've seen it. I base my opinion about Linux on http://g.msn.com/9SE/1?http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314458&&DI=6066&IG=099c1c4aa3fd4d6bbedd6567401070de&POS=5&CM=WPU&CE=4&CS=AWP&SR=4
[10:28] <lupine_85> both journaling F.S., but reiser (3) is much saner
[10:28] <sintax] > i'd run it on my box but i have 6 HDD's in it and i don't feel like messing with my MBR's etc
[10:28] <Hellevater> why is ext3 the default?
[10:28] <jn-> lol Arafangi1n ty
[10:28] <sintax] > yeah really
[10:28] <lupine_85> inertia ;)
[10:29] <gnejusz> you mean add boot option  alt
[10:29] <cafuego> achandra: 't was a talk by a mysql developer; check the features for mysql5 on mysql.org
[10:29] <ubuntu> Arafangi1n: ur funny :)
[10:29] <achandra> cool
[10:29] <lupine_85> Other distros (e.g. SuSE) use reiser as the default
[10:29] <Arafangi1n> cafuego: What does it say about linux?
[10:29] <sintax] > so what? why do they have to be differnt and use ext3
[10:29] <sintax] > let's just use Fat16
[10:29] <Hellevater> I thought I read somewhere that reiser is only better for small files (less than 4kb)
[10:29] <Wiseguy> hey guys what password do i use when i search for a LAN printer?
[10:29] <cafuego> Arafangi1n: How to remove it and install XP.
[10:30] <Hellevater> sintax]  even better ntfs
[10:30] <achandra> sorry for repost..so yeah..got stream tuner installed...but cant record the streams..what am i missing??
[10:30] <lupine_85> fat16? what form of new technology is this? Will it run on my  winchester ?
[10:30] <Arafangi1n> cafuego: Looks like they're acknowledging their existance now.
[10:30] <achandra> lol
[10:30] <cafuego> Arafangi1n: Thing is, you can find any opinion on any topic online. With no reference as to whether it's actually true or valuable.
[10:30] <sintax] > anyone have any VMS machines?
[10:30] <sintax] > OpenVMS*
[10:30] <achandra> postgres vs. mysql = religious war....
[10:31] <lupine_85> TBH, any DB server "can" do the job you want it to. the question is, can you be bothered setting it up the way you like it?
[10:31] <Arafangi1n> cafuego: Still, that website I showed is somewhat unbiased - though it does suggest that postgresql is administratively more difficult than MySQL.
[10:31] <JustFILM> Is there any high compression archive software for Linux? - something that could reduce 700mb avi's to like half or more compression? for store?
[10:31] <BHSPitMonkey> anyone here from texas? ...
[10:31] <lupine_85> AVI is notoriously uncompressible
[10:32] <sintax] > JustFILM i don't think even windows utils can do that
[10:32] <screechingcat> DivX
[10:32] <lupine_85> along with most other already-compressed stuff
[10:32] <screechingcat> Dr. DivX is pretty gud
[10:32] <sintax] >  try converting it to KVCD/XVID/3iVX or DIVX
[10:32] <Arafangi1n> JustFILM: You want lossy compression, you have to encode it into some _format_.
[10:32] <lupine_85> your 700mb AVI probably started life as a 9GB DVD
[10:32] <JustFILM> Hrmm so I cannot do it with something like TAR etc
[10:32] <jn-> well make uninstall did not work
[10:32] <sintax] > re-encode it
[10:32] <ubuntu> back here
[10:32] <ubuntu> :)
[10:32] <lupine_85> jn- generally you can't uninstall "make install"'d software
[10:33] <Arafangi1n> JustFILM: Tar is just a tape archiver.
[10:33] <screechingcat> JustFILM: u can cramp it down to 256mb with Dr. DivX OSS
[10:33] <jn-> ic. i guess im gonna have to get it to install right
[10:33] <lupine_85> hence why people developed package management software
[10:33] <jn-> i mean it installed, i just cant run the program properly
[10:33] <Arafangi1n> JustFILM: It doesn't compress much, though you could use gzip, or bzip2, etc, but they are *lossless* compression programs.
[10:33] <sintax] > can't compress the file much but compress the audio and video streams which will reduce it alot
[10:33] <ubuntu> fyrestrtr: hi there :)
[10:33] <JustFILM> Ok well I do not want to compress it into a viewable form - I want to compress it into an archive format .. so I can store it
[10:33] <Axe> Is there any way to uninstall the wacom driver?
[10:33] <lupine_85> oh, you can archive them... but it won't reduce the size any
[10:34] <fyrestrtr> ubuntu: well hello person with the same name as the disto and the channel which makes it confusing for others.
[10:34] <lupine_85> in fact, it could well make them larger
[10:34] <sintax] > haha how was that name not taken fyrestrtr
[10:34] <ubuntu> fyrestrtr: lol
[10:34] <achandra> Ahh...okay I needed streamripper....that did it...both streamtuner AND streamripper... :)
[10:34] <ubuntu> sintax] : well its mine now
[10:34] <ubuntu> :)
[10:34] <ubuntu_fanboi> :p
[10:34] <Arafangi1n> jn-: Did you say your holy mary's?
[10:34] <Axe> Is there any way to uninstall the wacom driver?
[10:34] <JustFILM> Lupine I see...
[10:34] <Arafangi1n> jn-: Next time, make a package.
[10:35] <lupine_85> Axe: as in unload it from memory? or remove from hard disc?
[10:35] <Arafangi1n> jn-: Or or live with not being able to remove it easily.
[10:35] <Axe> remove from hard disc
[10:35] <Axe> disk
[10:35] <lupine_85> just delete the .ko file
[10:35] <sintax] > zomgbed time
[10:35] <ompaul> ** test **
[10:35] <Axe> I don't need it, it's for tablet PCs right
[10:35] <achandra> does anyone have any nice how tos on ldap auth with TLS support in ubuntu ??
[10:35] <Axe> And
[10:35] <Arafangi1n> jn-: Or, use a custom prefix.
[10:35] <ompaul> !offtopic
[10:35] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:35] <Axe> its interfering with my Photoshop 7 in wite
[10:35] <Axe> wine
[10:35] <lupine_85> (or better, archive it)
[10:35] <lupine_85> you could ust unload it
[10:35] <Axe> if I remove the xorg.conf files like it says on the winedb site
[10:35] <Axe> then x can't start
[10:35] <Axe> and I ahve to reconfig
[10:35] <sintax] > #ubuntu is interfering with my /sleep
[10:35] <lupine_85> ...
[10:36] <Axe> its been very frustrating
[10:36] <lupine_85> you could try removing the wacom section of the xorg.conf file?
[10:36] <finalbeta> !repos
[10:36] <Axe> yes
[10:36] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:36] <Axe> I did
[10:36] <Axe> I restarted
[10:36] <Axe> x wouldn't load
[10:36] <Axe> went into recovery mode
[10:36] <finalbeta> !multiverse
[10:36] <Axe> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:36] <Axe> then it'd work
[10:36] <Axe> I tried just commenting any line that said wacom
[10:36] <Axe> I tried removing the whole seconds
[10:37] <heavydrinker> i know this is slightly off topic but.... kaomoji fetchi --also called eromonaa. . . ("ascii art fetish")
[10:37] <Hellevater> axe: people talk like that in AIM chats not IRC
[10:37] <lupine_85> You should just need to remove the "Section "InputDevice [...]  EndSection" bits which reference wacom
[10:38] <Axe> sections
[10:38] <lupine_85> 1 second, I'll try it
[10:38] <Noumaan> xserver-xorg reminds me of a update I get notified about but since I had read the notification on forum I never installed it. Is it fixed now and safe to install?
[10:38] <fyrestrtr> heavydrinker: 'slightly'?
[10:38] <achandra> Streamripper is so bitchin...as well.....wow!!!
[10:38] <Axe> Wehre is the pastebin
[10:38] <Axe> !pastebin
[10:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:38] <Axe> ah
[10:38] <lupine_85> Did you comment out the references to the wacom devices in the ServerLayout section ?
[10:39] <lupine_85> (last 3 lines in my xorg.conf)
[10:39] <Thunderpants> Noumaan, check the update is 10.4 and not 10.3
[10:39] <Madpilot> Axe, seriously, one line per sentence, please. Don't use your Enter key so much!
[10:39] <achandra> fyrestrtr: thanks for you're help...truly bitchin stuff..
[10:39] <lupine_85> ...erm, s/xorg.conf/ServerLayout
[10:39] <kallekula> Anyone got a minute for some real n00b q?
[10:39] <Axe> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21868
[10:39] <Axe> that stuff
[10:39] <fyrestrtr> achandra: glad you like it.
[10:39] <Axe> I removed all of it
[10:39] <Axe> And then restarted
[10:39] <Axe> and x wouldn't start, I had to reconfig
[10:39] <JustFILM> kallekula, Go for it
[10:40] <Noumaan> Thunderpants, it is 10.4 so it is safe to install it now?
[10:40] <lupine_85> 10.4 is safe
[10:40] <Thunderpants> Noumaan, yes, its safe
[10:40] <achandra> fyrestrtr: Im really impressed with the people that wrote it..time for me to learn to learn some OO programming languages and contribute back...I hate juste being a user...
[10:40] <Justin_> Man would it be great to compress 700 megs to 20 :D
[10:40] <lupine_85> Axe: correction made
[10:41] <lupine_85> your xorg.conf will have been referencing non-existant (now) drivers
[10:41] <kallekula> i just installed apache+php mysql...now i trying to fix a phpbb forum..can get it to work..and  a real noob @ubuntu/linux..
[10:41] <lupine_85> hence why it wasn't loading
[10:41] <Justin_> kallekula, You understand scripts right?
[10:42] <LinLenLap> Hiya....can I ask questions here for help?
[10:42] <lupine_85> Aaargh, anti-bayesian-filter-cialis-spam
[10:42] <Justin_> You need to edit the config files usually, tell them your database location - user/pass etc - and then login to them (is it the script you are having probs with?) or the server?
[10:42] <lupine_85> LinLenLap: sure :)
[10:42] <kallekula> well...not rly..did some pkg install...and forums says"itwill work.."but not for me;O
[10:42] <Axe> lupine_85:  so I remove all of the wacom sections and comment the serverlayout stuff?
[10:42] <fyrestrtr> achandra: pick up a book on python, and join me in learning it :)
[10:42] <Justin_> kallekula, No no - you still need to edit your config files ;)
[10:42] <albacker> guys how can i get rid of the boot-screen in ubuntu  ? i just want to see text.. i think it might run faster like that.
[10:43] <lupine_85> Axe: yes - comment out the three lines in ServerLayout that reference the wacom drivers
[10:43] <Justin_> kallekula, The information you need to install the script, is within its help files ;) - forums simply do not work after you install the pack hehe
[10:43] <lupine_85> deleting the .ko files will just make your problem worse, btw ;)
[10:43] <Justin_> You need to supply some data to it, user/pass - and you must create a database in MYSQL also - and point your script towards it
[10:44] <achandra> fyrrestrtr: will do..along with a GREAT series of stuff from a dude named Bruce Eckel...his stuff is on the internet...and Ive been told by numerous people he is "da man" for C and Java related stuff.
[10:44] <lupine_85> albacker: uninstalling uSplash might do it? Or ctrl+f1 to get to the normal text
[10:44] <lupine_85> (I think)
[10:44] <Axe> ok restarting
[10:44] <Noumaan> achandra, There is one great tutorial on Python wait let me give you the url
[10:44] <achandra> cool!
[10:44] <LinLenLap> Super. I'm acutally configuring kernel 2.6-17-11 right now, and it's asking me about what my processor family is. I know I can say 686 and be fine, but I have a brand spanking new celeron M  in this lappy. Is there a command I can run to find out what family that is, and what I should choose?
[10:44] <albacker> lupine_85, is there any way just to remove from starting ? not uninstalling ?
[10:44] <lupine_85> that's just a 686
[10:45] <Justin_> kallekula, - http://www.phpbb.com/support/ - it will show you how to edit your config files, as for creating a mysql database you can do console or - get a program such as PHPmyadmin.
[10:45] <lupine_85> albacker: there might be a kernel boot option that you can use.
[10:45] <LinLenLap> Bummer....ok, thanks very much Lupine!
[10:45] <lupine_85> not sure though
[10:45] <Noumaan> achandra, www.freenetpages.co.uk/hp/alan.gauld/ -
[10:45] <lupine_85> should have gone with amd ;)
[10:46] <albacker> lupine_85, k, thanks.
[10:46] <albacker> lupine_85, i think there's a grub option for this : here's what i read : I have configured my Ubuntu (through GRUB) to boot into console mode only (no X) for faster access to the system when GUI is not needed.
[10:47] <Noumaan> achandra, wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide/NonProgrammers  this page has more links for beginners from a non programming background to learn python
[10:47] <kallekula> well i will try@least to find some info there..i will be back...promise or thret..take it as u wish;)
[10:47] <Justin_> kallekula, :)) - yeah you should find your answers there, because installing the pack does not ... complete the install so to say - the installer does not add your user/pass database etc ;) - you have to manually edit most scripts.
[10:48] <Justin_> Also make sure that you have the right chmod's for certain files, which should be in the scripts documentation also - if needed.
[10:48] <phenol> anyone familiar with wine?
[10:48] <achandra> Noumaan: vi /pasting info into a file...nice!! thnx..
[10:49] <phenol> how do you change the windows version for the default setting through terminal oppose to winecfg's GUI
[10:49] <lupine_85> -winver option?
[10:49] <lupine_85> man wine
[10:49] <lupine_85> (cedega has it, and is based on wine...)
[10:50] <Justin_> Cedega makes me sick - making money off of the wine project and closing the source *sighs*
[10:51] <achandra> Noumaan: ive been so caught up in the sysadmin world...ldap, djbdns, asterisk setup....neglected to focus on the programming..its been a CLM..career limiting move..time to expand..
[10:51] <lupine_85> true enough; I intend to dump them as soon as wine get decent DX support
[10:51] <Tomtheman70> is there a xbuntu help room or can someone help me here?
[10:51] <lupine_85> achandra: c/c++ is the "standard"
[10:52] <lupine_85> but a pain to learn
[10:52] <Arafangi1n> lupine_85: C is not C++
[10:52] <lupine_85> it's C with OOP gubbins
[10:52] <Arafangi1n> lupine_85: Incorrect.
[10:52] <lupine_85> like Pascal/Object Pascal
[10:52] <achandra> yep...my goal by the end of the year is to pick up...c, java, and python
[10:52] <Arafangi1n> lupine_85: The languages have diverged.
[10:53] <lupine_85> like English and German? Or English and American?
[10:53] <Arafangi1n> achandra: Start with Python, then do Java, delay C for as long as possible, because you will never recover from it.
[10:53] <lupine_85> (bad comparison, I know)
[10:53] <achandra> lol
[10:53] <achandra> good enough...will do
[10:53] <phenol> the man for wine doesnt specify
[10:53] <Justin_> Well after 2 weeks of Ubuntu - I doubt I will be going back to FreeBSD hehe..
[10:54] <achandra> freebsd...yick
[10:54] <Justin_> Ubuntu is the first Linux I have ever actually enjoyed using.. suprise suprise :)
[10:54] <Arafangi1n> lupine_85: For starters, struct foo bar = {.baz=3, .bag=4}; is invalid C++
[10:54] <Hellevater> funny.. I was just thinking about trying FreeBSD
[10:54] <Arafangi1n> OpenBSD is rather nice, haven't used fbsd yet.
[10:54] <Healot> BSD != Linux :)
[10:55] <rszt> hi all, anyone ever managed to get a Xerox WorkCentre PE114e printer working?
[10:55] <achandra> Justin_: work with voip??
[10:55] <Hellevater> I know that
[10:55] <lupine_85> so you mean C++ has sane syntax/assignments?
[10:55] <Healot> but BSD flavors are to huge for a regular desktop user
[10:55] <phenol> how do you change the windows version for the default setting through terminal oppose to winecfg's GUI
[10:55] <phenol> the man doesnt specify
[10:55] <Hellevater> c++ is driving me crazy currently
[10:55] <ompaul> !offtopic
[10:55] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:55] <CyberMad> i want to create virtual machine use VMware (windows os) in my laptop, how much minimum hard disk should i allocate for ubuntu? i just want the recommended hard disk size, i just use this ubuntu for experiment.
[10:55] <piratepenguin> how do I look inside an initrd image? can I mount it somehow?
[10:56] <albacker> Healot, why the heck are you talking about cpp when there's a channel for that
[10:56] <ompaul> we have many many channels please use the right ones thanks
[10:56] <albacker> Hellevater, *
[10:56] <chris449> hi, how do i install kubuntu desktop on ubuntu. i type in sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop but it tells me it can't find the package
[10:56] <chris449> did i spell it wrong?
[10:56] <Healot> albacker:  who is talking about C/C++?
[10:56] <CyberMad> does 2 GB is enough for ubuntu?
[10:57] <lupine_85> phenol: no idea then. You could try setting per-program defaults?
[10:57] <albacker> Healot, sorry, my tab was wrong..
[10:57] <chris449> !kubuntu
[10:57] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment. For more info see http://kubuntu.org ; to install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. To downgrade your version of kubuntu to an older version see: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=609.0
[10:57] <drick> CyberMad : i think 2 gb is a bit lacking...
[10:57] <ompaul> Healot, that was a typo :-) or we need  new word a tabo
[10:57] <chris449> how come i can't agt-get it?
[10:57] <lupine_85> I just assumed cedega and wine command-line options would be the same
[10:57] <albacker> ompaul, heh :D tabo, nice :)
[10:57] <CyberMad> drick how much you suggest?
[10:57] <chris449> it says it can't find package
[10:57] <lupine_85> chris449: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:57] <chris449> i did
[10:58] <chris449> it says it can't find package
[10:58] <RvGaTe> Can i see the settings on how ubuntu detected my screen, and read out the values? (like max reso, Hz and stuff)
[10:58] <lupine_85> !kubuntu-desktop
[10:58] <ubotu> k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[10:58] <Justin_> achandra, I do not know - I do not use VOIP
[10:58] <ompaul> chris449, are you able to get anything try "sudo apt-get install oneko" its fairly small
[10:58] <DeeTahPanLtah> any ubuntu 3d game you'd reccomend me?
[10:58] <phenol> lupine_85: nah i wanted to do it from the command line. its for a shell script i'm writing to automate the porting of a client my friend coded in windows
[10:58] <achandra> k
[10:58] <chris449> ompaul: couldn't find that package either
[10:58] <Justin_> DeeTahPanLtah, - Rubicon-X
[10:58] <chris449> ompaul: is it repositories? i don't understand how to fix that?
[10:58] <Healot> nvm
[10:58] <DeeTahPanLtah> Justin_: whats this one about?
[10:59] <ompaul> chris449, okay have you the cd in the drive? do you need one?
[10:59] <lupine_85>  phenol: you could try compiling it natively with the wine libs?
[10:59] <Justin_> DeeTahPanLtah, 3d Shooter ;D
[10:59] <achandra> anyone install the asterisk packages for ubuntu and whats the general consensus on how it works on ubuntu??
[10:59] <NineTeen67Comet> how do all .. Little question on where to start looking .. when I reboot it stops at "Ubuntu Will Reboot Now" .. (Or Hault) ..
[10:59] <Justin_> http://www.marathonrubicon.com/
[10:59] <DeeTahPanLtah> its in repos?
[10:59] <chris449> ompaul: oops, i didn't realise u need the cd in the drive, but doesn't kubuntu have to be downloaded?
[10:59] <chris449> *kde
[10:59] <lupine_85> Justin_: Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory/True Combat[:Elite]  is fun
[10:59] <chris449> still can't find packages with cd in drive
[10:59] <lupine_85> online play only, though
[11:00] <Justin_> DeeTahPanLtah, Nope - it is a Linux game, no linux game is really "ubuntu" specific..
[11:00] <ompaul> chris449, just do this, paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list in paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:00] <Justin_> no inux games *are*  ---- Yeah I have not slept for like almost 2 days now excuse that
[11:00] <Justin_> linux* even....
[11:00] <chops-> whats the command to install the buildessential stuff
[11:01] <ompaul> !buildessential
[11:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about buildessential - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:01] <ompaul> !build-essential
[11:01] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:01] <KenSentMe>  Is there a way to resize a windows ntfs partition in Ubuntu like the installer does?
[11:01] <Justin_> I stick with my Zsnes for games, I am not big on new games.. for some reason - I find they have more graphics, but less story - gameplay..
[11:01] <ompaul> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:01] <chris449> it's in the pastebin, chris449
[11:01] <Justin_> I also like the idea of having like 400 games in one directory :))
[11:01] <chops-> thanks
[11:02] <chris449> do'h i should uncomment the universe lines shouldn't i?
[11:02] <Hellevater> how do you know which terms "ubotu" will recognize?
[11:02] <CyberMad> i already install ubuntu, why the system not ask about root password? so i don't know what i should enter after type "su"
[11:02] <Justin_> Hellevater, Trial and error
[11:02] <KenSentMe> !ubotu
[11:02] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[11:02] <KenSentMe> Hellevater: ^^^
[11:02] <Justin_> ubotu, botsnack
[11:02] <ubotu> Yum!
[11:02] <Tomtheman70> Justin_ can you get Zsnes for xubuntu?
[11:02] <Justin_> :)
[11:03] <Hellevater> haha
[11:03] <Justin_> Tomtheman70, Sure I am on Xubuntu ;)
[11:03] <edgy> Hi, apt-get install dchroot says E: Couldn't find package dchroot.  My sources.lst is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21870, this happened to me with other packages too like ktranslator. what's up please?
[11:03] <Justin_> Tomtheman70, You need to compile it though its not part of the deb repositories
[11:03] <martuxy_13> erver irc.arrakis.es
[11:03] <Tomtheman70> Well, I only ask because I know there's a Znes for windows.
[11:03] <ompaul> chris449, it is nothing to do with universe
[11:03] <Justin_> not hard a simple ./configure - make - make install and your ready to go
[11:04] <chris449> ompaul, so what should i do then?
[11:04] <RvGaTe> Can i see the settings on how ubuntu detected my screen, and read out the values? (like max reso, Hz and stuff)
[11:04] <ompaul> chris449, I am wondering about that
[11:04] <Justin_> Tomtheman70, Yeah you can grab the source at their site
[11:04] <ompaul> chris449, give me two or three minutes
[11:04] <chris449> ompaul, kk thanks
[11:05] <KenSentMe> edgy: are you on edgy?
[11:05] <edgy> KenSentMe: I am on dapper
[11:05] <lucio> I run on a ubuntu dapper the  gnome-cups-manager/gnome-cups-add programs and I can't find the lp device on the list of devices, therea are only usb ports
[11:06] <ompaul> chris449, so do this "sudo apt-get update" with synaptic closed
[11:06] <NineTeen67Comet> lupine_85: Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory/True Combat[:Elite]  .. are these in apt?
[11:06] <chris449> ompaul, it's doing something :)
[11:07] <lupine_85> NineTeen67Comet: no
[11:07] <lupine_85> but there's a loki installer
[11:07] <NineTeen67Comet> lupine_85: at the respective sites?
[11:07] <babo> My OS system sounds work fine, but I can't hear any sounds from my browser when I'm listening to music ... help ?
[11:07] <lupine_85> well, the respective sites have links to the loki installer
[11:07] <lupine_85> but the two are hosted all over the place
[11:07] <NineTeen67Comet> n'kay .. I'll go lookie'loo ..
[11:08] <Healot> babo: sound from flash object?
[11:08] <ompaul> chris449, do a "sudo apt-get upgrade" before you do anything else you may have to reboot after it and then get your kubuntu desktop -btw if you enable universe make sure you do these steps again
[11:08] <babo> Healot: yes, ... it was working on Friday last ...
[11:08] <dagers> hi, when i'm restarting my comp I must use ntfsfix and ntfsmount with -o force to can use my ntfs partition, and only as root, what can I do? few time ago I didn't must use ntfsmount because that mounts auto.
[11:08] <chris449> ompaul, thanks for that
[11:08] <tepsipakki> I have a problem on dapper that even a plain simple .tex-file doesn't compile
[11:09] <ompaul> chris449, yw
[11:09] <Healot> babo: from the same site, file
[11:09] <Healot> ?
[11:09] <micahcowan> tepsipakki, you have the appropriate packages installed? How are you processing the .tex file?
[11:10] <babo> Healot: yes, same site. The only thing I've done in the meantime is use skype methinks ...
[11:10] <chops-> what bin package holds the curses addon
[11:10] <tepsipakki> micahcowan: yes I believe I have all the needed ones.. I'm migrating from sarge. I'm just running it as "latex test.tex"
[11:10] <tepsipakki> nexus6 ~ 5256 % latex test.tex
[11:10] <tepsipakki> This is TeX, Version 3.141592 (Web2C 7.5.4)
[11:10] <tepsipakki> ---! /var/lib/texmf/web2c/latex.fmt was written by pdfetex
[11:10] <tepsipakki> (Fatal format file error; I'm stymied)
[11:10] <tepsipakki> that's all
[11:11] <tepsipakki> and the same problem with edgy
[11:11] <KenSentMe>  Is there a way to resize a windows ntfs partition in Ubuntu like the installer does?
[11:11] <micahcowan> tepsipakki, try pdflatex test.tex (which doesn't do quite the same thing...)
[11:11] <tepsipakki> micahcowan: that works..
[11:12] <micahcowan> tepsipakki, The difference is, that generates a pdf file, whereas plain latex would've generated a dvi file.
[11:12] <babo> Healot: ok, I'll kill gnome and see if that works ...
[11:12] <Hellevater> !ubotu > Hellevator
[11:12] <achandra> !gparted
[11:12] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[11:13] <Hellevater> !tell me about gparted
[11:13] <micahcowan> tepsipakki, the complaint you got from tex seems to indicate that the latex format files were compiled with pdflatex, rather than latex, and their format files are not quite compatible.
[11:13] <KenSentMe> achandra: if that is your answer to my question: gparted doesn't give me the option to resize my ntfs partition
[11:13] <tepsipakki> micahcowan: that makes sense, how would I change that?
[11:14] <achandra> hmm..indeed as i am looking at it now..(it does not)...for some reason i thought it did...
[11:14] <KenSentMe> achandra: me too, but using the installer you can resize it
[11:14] <ndee> hello there, I'm a php developer and I totally wanna switch to ubuntu/linux. We also use linux as a staging server, now my question: Whenever I edit files on the remote server, I do that thru ftp and it's pretty unreliable etc. Is there a way to "map" another linux volume over the internet, without going thru FTP?
[11:15] <Hellevater> ndee SSH?
[11:15] <achandra> right...im wondering if that is a limitation...of sorts..but ill have to google that to find out..
[11:15] <Hellevater> vim over SHH
[11:15] <tepsipakki> micahcowan: ok, I got it
[11:15] <ndee> Hellevater: I would like to work with a graphical user interface where I can click stuff ;)
[11:16] <Bazzi> ndee: you can easily mount almost anything to a local drive
[11:16] <micahcowan> tepsipakki, how? I was looking into that...
[11:16] <RichEd> greetz : openoffice on ubuntu ... does auto update handle newer versions ? my oo help about tells me i'm on 2.02 and the oo site says 2.03 is available
[11:16] <achandra> ndee: two choices either install vnc -server on the box in question and vnc to it.. or..
[11:16] <Hellevater> ndee Remote desktop?
[11:16] <tepsipakki> micahcowan: thanks for pointing me to the right direction... we had links like pdflatex -> pdftex, latex -> tex
[11:16] <ndee> Bazzi: I tried that with FTP but it was so unreliable, it's not even funny.
[11:16] <micahcowan> tepsipakki, that should be correct.
[11:16] <Bazzi> ndee: with ssh it should be easy *and* reliable :)
[11:16] <achandra> ndee: you can ssh -X  bartsimpson@server
[11:16] <grexk> ssh -X
[11:16] <ndee> I mean, I want to run the editor locally on my machine but the connection to the server has to be something else than FTP
[11:16] <achandra> which will export X
[11:16] <mollvhr> hola
[11:17] <Hellevater> ndee, try the terminal server client in ubuntu
[11:17] <mollvhr> hai alguen que  busca compania
[11:17] <achandra> use ssh
[11:17] <grexk> use ssh
[11:17] <ompaul> !es
[11:17] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:17] <tepsipakki> micahcowan: it should? seems that the default is {latex, pdflatex} -> pdfetex
[11:17] <achandra> !ssh
[11:17] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[11:17] <grexk> !ssh
[11:17] <grexk> lol achandra
[11:17] <achandra> ;)
[11:17] <grexk> :-P
[11:17] <achandra> think alike
[11:17] <grexk> yes
[11:17] <achandra> !valium
[11:17] <frogzoo> ndee: there's also citrix if you have a citrix server in house
[11:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about valium - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:17] <achandra> lol
[11:17] <Hellevater> everybody's loving the ubotu bot tonight
[11:18] <grexk> !freenx
[11:18] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[11:18] <ndee> nah, no citrix in the house ;)
[11:18] <micahcowan> tepsipakki, ah! That's unusual... but seems to be how my system is setup, and would explain why your latex was compiled that way.
[11:18] <RvGaTe> Hellevater, tonight? its 11.18 am
[11:18] <ndee> I would kinda need a ssh connection thru nautilus or something similar I think
[11:18] <Hellevater> 2:18 RvGaTe
[11:18] <grexk> better
[11:18] <Hellevater> am
[11:18] <RvGaTe> Hellevater, holy crap !
[11:18] <RvGaTe> :P
[11:18] <achandra> ndee: what system is your client
[11:18] <grexk> !selinux
[11:18] <Tomtheman70> Its 2:18 here too.
[11:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about selinux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:19] <RvGaTe> Can i see the settings on how ubuntu detected my screen, and read out the values? (like max reso, Hz and stuff)
[11:19] <tepsipakki> micahcowan: so while tetex-bin was configured those links weren't there and pdfetex was used
[11:19] <micahcowan> tepsipakki, I guess, since pdfetex is capable of generating .dvi's, it probably does so when its name isn't being prefixed with pdf. Not bad.... most distros I've seen link latex to tetex's version (/usr/bin/tex).  I totally wanna convert to ubuntu actually :)
[11:19] <shinobi2> need to compile c programs
[11:19] <leo^> !aixgl
[11:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aixgl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:19] <achandra> ndee: my suggestion is still to use a terminal and ssh to the other machine...if you need an X program ssh -X...or again...install VNC.
[11:19] <leo^> !meaningoflife
[11:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about meaningoflife - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:20] <Hellevater> ndee, your going to have to move away from the "point and click" stuff eventually if thats the case
[11:20] <Hellevater> leo^, you should submit the meaning of life to the ubotu bot
[11:20] <grexk> !vim
[11:20] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[11:20] <Hellevater> wow the vim entry is pretty much useless
[11:20] <micahcowan> shinobi2, where is /what/ library?
[11:20] <achandra> yep
[11:20] <grexk> lol
[11:21] <ndee> Hellevater: I would love to use just gedit and then "browse" thru the remote filesystem, like I do it with my local file system.
[11:21] <achandra> ndee:then install vnc
[11:21] <ndee> !code
[11:21] <ubotu> Programming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs; KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello; GNOME: gvim, gedit, eclipse, pida
[11:21] <grexk> no offense I hate gedit
[11:21] <shinobi2> micahcowan:  i think it was in /usr/..../X11R6/..../glut.lib
[11:21] <ndee> achandra: but I have no X running on the server
[11:22] <ndee> grexk: I'm new to all editors so on linux so ;)
[11:22] <grexk> ndee: sori
[11:22] <achandra> ndee: hmm...then install samba..and then use the samba gui browser..
[11:22] <frogzoo> ndee: emacs dude
[11:23] <achandra> ndee: trust me once you go terminal...and vi or emacs...you wont look back...plus everyone knows a desktop manager is simply so you can have more terminals running ;)
[11:23] <ndee> does emacs have that php stuff that automagically tells you how many arguments the function needs?
[11:23] <micahcowan> shinobi2, sounds like you want libglut, in /usr/lib (if it's installed).
[11:24] <michael__> quick amarok question here...
[11:24] <Hellevater> achandra what about ALT + F1 - F6
[11:24] <chris449> hi i'm trying to unistall nvidia-glx, hwo do i do it?
[11:24] <ndee> are vi and emacs similar "complicated" for a new user?
[11:24] <lupine_85> they forgot about joe...
[11:24] <Hellevater> ndee, pretty much yeah
[11:24] <grexk> !joe
[11:24] <michael__> how do you set it to default player, or chosse the damned thing? =/
[11:24] <frogzoo> achandra: I suggest you give deskbar a try
[11:24] <achandra> yeah that'll put him into console mode..
[11:24] <ndee> at the moment, I always use joe :)
[11:24] <ubotu> joe: user friendly full screen text editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1-0.2 (dapper), package size 217 kB, installed size 696 kB
[11:24] <lupine_85> joe is great :)
[11:25] <Healot> Joe :)
[11:25] <grexk> Have'nt tried joe but I love vim
[11:25] <Healot> aren't UNIX users gay :-... no offence hehe
[11:25] <Hellevater> Healot: I don't understand?
[11:25] <grexk> Healot: sumtimes:-D
[11:25] <RichEd> anyone ? open office updates under ubuntu ? is it all handled automaticaly ?
[11:26] <grexk> yes
[11:26] <lupine_85> about 10% of users?
[11:26] <Healot> RichEd: :not ubuntu i'd say... yo can update package with apt-get update command
[11:26] <muzik> hey guys, anyone manage to get their soundblaster card working in dapper?
[11:26] <RichEd> thanks grexk : is our open office a specific "ubuntu version"
[11:26] <muzik> driving me crazy
[11:26] <grexk> I think so..
[11:26] <michael__> muzik -yep
[11:26] <ompaul> RichEd, semi automatic, you see a little orange logo on the top right of your screen you click on it and it looks after the updates - however please read the next thing that ubotu says and follow the link
[11:26] <Andy> can som1 help me with ndiswrapper drivers???
[11:27] <ndee> ok, gonna try some of your suggestions :)
[11:27] <ompaul> !timetable
[11:27] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[11:27] <muzik> what did you have to do michael__
[11:27] <Andy> when i use ndiswrapper and install my .inf file it says bcmwl5 invalid driver. please help :)
[11:27] <michael__> muzik-it just worked.. sry
[11:27] <muzik> have you got onboard sound?
[11:28] <lupine_85> Andy: do you need to add the pci/usb-id to the ndiswrapper database?#
[11:28] <michael__> separate pci
[11:28] <RichEd> thank ompaul & healot ... yep, my question was does the update manager do the worx for me ... will check the links and also try command line
[11:28] <frogzoo> can anyone suggest a better snmp browser than mbrowse, which kinda sux
[11:28] <grexk> ndee: http://www.php-editors.com checkout this one
[11:28] <Andy> i have no idea im a linux newb
[11:28] <muzik> i mean aswell as your soundblaster, have you got other sound onboard
[11:28] <Andy> how do i add it to the datebase?
[11:28] <michael__> no just that one
[11:28] <lupine_85> ndiswrapper - (something)
[11:28] <muzik> yeah thats why
[11:28] <lupine_85> try ndiswrapper -h
[11:28] <muzik> hhrrmm
[11:28] <Andy> so just ndiswrapper -h?
[11:28] <lupine_85> to get the id, run lspci -v or lsusb (depending on the product)
[11:29] <lupine_85> no, that's a help screen that should have the option
[11:29] <michael__> did you check here?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[11:29] <lupine_85> (I don't have ndiswrapper installed here)
[11:29] <Andy> then i do
[11:29] <michael__> that helped on my other machine w/two soundcards
[11:29] <Andy> ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf
[11:29] <Andy> and it will install properly
[11:29] <muzik> wow
[11:29] <michael__> muzik?
[11:29] <muzik> thanks ill have a look
[11:29] <Andy> ?
[11:29] <michael__> np
[11:30] <lupine_85> probably
[11:30] <Andy> 1 more thing
[11:30] <lupine_85> broadcom also have native drivers, so if ndiswrapper fails you could try them
[11:30] <Andy> where?
[11:30] <Axe> I have a bunch of fstab mounts but they all don't show up on startup
[11:30] <Andy> mine is broadcom :)
[11:30] <Andy> where where :)?
[11:30] <lupine_85> (don't forget to blacklist the bcm43xx driver while you try ndiswrapper)
[11:30] <Axe> I have to do sudo mount -a for most of them to show up
[11:30] <RichEd> Healot: Just run the command you gave me. Is that a "forced check" for the update manager ?
[11:30] <lupine_85> comes included with the kernel
[11:30] <Axe> Why is this
[11:30] <Axe> and also
[11:30] <lupine_85> bcm43xx
[11:30] <shinobi2> micahcowan: yes, i need to compile open GL.  thx
[11:30] <Andy> i have blacklisted already :)
[11:30] <Andy> already done!
[11:30] <Andy> :P
[11:30] <Axe> can I make some of my mounts not show up on the desktop
[11:30] <lupine_85> k :)
[11:31] <Andy> :) :)
[11:31] <Andy> but
[11:31] <Andy> how come wlan doesn't show up in my thing?
[11:31] <Healot> RichEd: forced, yes
[11:31] <Andy> were it shows eithernet cable and modem connection and stuff
[11:31] <Andy> it doesn't already show wlan. is that natural?
[11:31] <RichEd> Schweet. Thanks.
[11:31] <lupine_85> it won't show wlan until the driver is loaded
[11:31] <Andy> ooooh ok
[11:31] <Andy> so what do i do again?
[11:32] <Andy> ndiswrapper -h
[11:32] <ompaul> !enter > Andy
[11:32] <RvGaTe> Can i see the settings on how ubuntu detected my screen, and read out the values? (like max reso, Hz and stuff)
[11:32] <lupine_85> yep, find the option to add the pciid/usbid to the database; do so; then ndiswrapper -l (inf-file)
[11:32] <ompaul> Andy, please read the message from ubotu thanks
[11:32] <lupine_85> lspci -v /lsusb
[11:32] <Justin_> What can play WMV3?
[11:32] <Andy> what message?
[11:32] <afd_> hi! I need a bit of help... I have two soundcards in my computer and I'd like to disable one. Unfortunately, the "Device Manager" is anything but device MANAGER
[11:32] <lupine_85> RvGaTe: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:33] <afd_> is there a pretty way of doing this thing?
[11:33] <ompaul> Andy,  in a pm / query
[11:33] <Andy> huh im new to irc
[11:33] <lupine_85> afd_: tell me about it :D. Blacklisting the driver for the soundcard you don't want will do the trick
[11:33] <lupine_85> (andy: tab on your screen somewhere with "uboto! written on it)
[11:33] <Andy> and what do i type?
[11:33] <lupine_85> or disable it in the BIOS (what I did)
[11:34] <afd_> lupine_85: I was hoping for a way to do this without reboot
[11:34] <lupine_85> you never have to reboot with linux!
[11:34] <lupine_85> Once you've blacklisted the module, use rmmod to unload it
[11:34] <RvGaTe> lupine_85, not really usefull there... i mean, it doesn' t display the refresh rate anywhere for instance (except in resolution changer dialog, but that value is wrong)
[11:34] <itachi> Can someone help me please? I keep getting this error; http://pastebin.ca/151696 when I try to run World of Warcraft with Wine...
[11:35] <ompaul> Andy, what I want you to do is not press enter after one word or two, please collect all your thoughts and put them on one line before you reply or ask a qestion it makes for easier use of irc, also preface each line to the person you are addressing with their nick, in my case if you type "omp" and hit tab you will find my nick
[11:35] <Andy> ok i will try by best thanks
[11:35] <lupine_85> presumably then, it's using the defaults. There's a line you can add to the xorg.conf to set the refresh rate (forget what it is - try man xorg.cong)
[11:35] <Tomtheman70> ompaul, I never knew you could do that!
[11:35] <ompaul> Andy, the same applies to others like when your talking to lupine_85 you can get away with two letters - and then tab and it autocompletes the name :)
[11:36] <afd_> lupine_85: how do I blacklist the module?
[11:36] <Andy> autocompletes??? huh I am confused
[11:36] <lupine_85> add it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist - e.g. "blacklist bcm43xx"
[11:36] <frogzoo> lupine_85: horizsync & vertrefresh - there's caps somewhere
[11:36] <frogzoo> !xorg > lupine_85
[11:36] <ompaul> Andy, and it can cycle just keep pressing tab, cheers Tomtheman70 well we like it to work well :-)
[11:36] <afd_> lupine_85: ok
[11:37] <Tomtheman70> Andy, try typing tomthe then hit tab, it will autocomplete my username.
[11:37] <Andy> Tomtheman70 ah i c
[11:37] <itachi> Can someone help me please? I keep getting this error; http://pastebin.ca/151696 when I try to run World of Warcraft with Wine...
[11:37] <lupine_85> of course, setting horizsync and vertrefresh manually on old monitors is a great way to have a pretty light show
[11:37] <Tomtheman70> andy, you can use that to ask more direct questions.
[11:37] <Andy> Tomtheman70! hi
[11:37] <Andy> ok thanks :)
[11:37] <Andy> to specific people i guess.
[11:38] <Tomtheman70> Andy: Don't look at me though, because I don't know anything yet, still installing it.
[11:38] <chris449> how to i disable agpgart?
[11:38] <ompaul> Andy, this is strictly a support channel, the chatting takes place in #ubuntu-offtopic :-) due to the fact we have over 700 people here and we like to keep it focused :)
[11:39] <Andy> ompaul: can you help me with my ndiswrapper issue? because i am still confused
[11:39] <Justin_> So for the people on Dapper, how long can you go before you feel you need a reboot?
[11:39] <Justin_> I feel that at around 7 days, dapper starts to feel sluggish
[11:39] <lupine_85> weeks
[11:39] <lupine_85> months
[11:39] <Healot> http://tools.wikimedia.de/~leon/stats/wikicharts/index.php?ns=articles&limit=100&month=08%2F2006&wiki=enwiki >> look at entry #6
[11:39] <Justin_> months? :)0
[11:39] <Justin_> :))
[11:39] <OmegaNine> !xgl
[11:39] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:39] <lupine_85> Usually a power failure hits before a software failure
[11:40] <Justin_> Sure you could.. but it seems less responsive after about 7 in my opinion
[11:40] <lupine_85> In worst-case sluggish-response scenarios, I've restarted the xserver
[11:40] <lupine_85> that generally does the trick
[11:40] <grexk> Reboot=>crash+powerdown+hardwarefailure
[11:40] <Andy> lupine_85: so its ndiswrapper -l then how do I enable the PCI?
[11:40] <ompaul> Andy, I don't do any wireless but I have followed the instuctions found here for people with wireless who have called by https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:40] <spazz> Is it possible to install ubuntu onto my 1GB flash drive?
[11:40] <Andy> lupine_85: i mean ndiswrapper -h
[11:40] <grexk> spazz: yes
[11:41] <lupine_85> Andy: I don't know how you get your card's pciid into the database
[11:41] <itachi> Can someone help me please? I keep getting this error; err:module:import_dll Library OPENGL32.dll when I try to run World of Warcraft with Wine...
[11:41] <spazz> Cool. Then that is what I want to do. lol. My HDD is DEAD. Bad sectors.
[11:41] <lupine_85> hence why you're using ndiswrapper -h : to find out
[11:41] <Andy> lupine_85: know anyone that does?
[11:41] <ompaul> Andy, what card is it
[11:41] <lupine_85> there's a command line option (which it will explain to you)
[11:41] <spazz> I am going to see if I can find a guide on how to do it.
[11:41] <Andy> ompaul: what u mean?
[11:41] <OmegaNine> !xgl
[11:41] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:41] <spazz> What's the easiest way, if you know...
[11:41] <ompaul> Andy, what is the name and make of your card
[11:41] <Andy> ompaul: its a Belkin (Broadcom) if thats what u mean
[11:41] <LMJ_Work> ANSWER to my own question : gettext on ubuntu doesn't care about /etc/locale.gen  but a "putenv" should add in the PHP code
[11:42] <Andy> ompaul: i got the .inf files for it too :)
[11:42] <grexk> spazz: use the installer, choose ur usb device as HD
[11:42] <ompaul> Andy, not of interest to me atm
[11:42] <spazz> Oh. Figured it would have been more complicated than that...
[11:42] <ompaul> Andy, just a moment
[11:42] <Andy> ompaul: ok
[11:42] <grexk> spazz: or better consult the install documentation
[11:42] <lupine_85> the .inf isn't being recognised by ndiswrapper; so the pciid needs adding to the database. I can't remember the command-line option for it ;)
[11:42] <spazz> Yea, I'm going to look at all of it.
[11:42] <grexk> spazz: or the wiki
[11:43] <Andy> lupine_85: well sorry thats not really helping :(
[11:43] <grexk> spazz: don't forget to create initrd for loading usbmodulesO:-)
[11:43] <Andy> how would I add the pciid to the datebase, anyone?
[11:44] <lupine_85> ok, I've just installed ndiswrapper...
[11:44] <Andy> lupine_85: where can i find the info. on adding the pciid to the database?
[11:45] <lupine_85> first you ndiswrapper -i the .inf file. Then you you "ndiswrapper -d devid driver"
[11:45] <lupine_85> devid is the pciid; driver is the name ndiswrapper gives to the .inf file (ndiswrapper -l lists the drivers)
[11:45] <RvGaTe> I have a dual screen setup, 2 identical screens... using my left on on VGA, and my right one on DVI, when i want to use the highest resolution possible, the VGA screen fails to automaticly adjust the screen into possition (using the "auto" button on the screen)... why is this such a difference? shouldn't it just be able to display it correctly? im wondering if this can be an config error...
[11:45] <Andy> lupine_85: so i write ndiswrapper -d devid driver after?
[11:45] <spazz> What is  initrd ?
[11:46] <lupine_85> yes
[11:46] <lupine_85> spazz: it's a compressed fs which contains modules necessary for the kernel to get your rootfs up and running
[11:46] <grexk> !initrd
[11:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about initrd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:46] <grexk> minimal root filesystem
[11:46] <Andy> lupine_85: ok im going to reboot and try it. It is ndiswrapper -h then ndiswrapper -i filename.inf and finally ndiswrapper -d devid driver?
[11:46] <lupine_85> e.g. if you compiled the ext2 and IDE drivers as modules, you'd need to put them in your initrd
[11:46] <spazz> A compressed file system just so it will fit on my USB drive?
[11:47] <ompaul> Andy,  have a look at this page: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/dists/dapper-cafuego/bcm43xx/
[11:47] <lupine_85> you don't need to reboot
[11:47] <grexk> nope
[11:47] <lupine_85> spazz: it's not the whole file system
[11:47] <lupine_85> it just gets your real fs up and running
[11:47] <spazz> What's the normal sized drive u'd use for an ubuntu install? I have a full GB. Or more like 900mb I think... however it formats it.
[11:47] <grexk> initrd is use for loading kernel modules
[11:47] <drbashir> How do I upgrade my current Ati driver?
[11:47] <spazz> So what will I be missing out on?
[11:47] <OmegaNine> Hey, i have been using this howto - http://www.compiz.net/viewtopic.php?id=389 - and when I startup, the X starts, but its like the GMD never starts, just sits there with a mouse.  I use ATI drivers - anyone have any ideas?
[11:47] <lupine_85> tbh 1GB will only just get you the server install
[11:47] <lupine_85> so no GUI
[11:48] <grexk> server install
[11:48] <spazz> It's not a full filesystem? Does that mean that I won't be able to install codecs and the like. I just want to be able to watch Divx/AVI files and download stuff to my external HDD.
[11:48] <lupine_85> you won't be able to do any of that on 1GB
[11:48] <richard> hey
[11:48] <lupine_85> well, xubuntu might *just* fit... but I doubt it
[11:48] <Andy> ompaul: how do i install that .deb file?
[11:48] <richard> what is the best virus software for ubuntu?
[11:48] <spazz> Ah. What if I put two 1GB usb sticks in at once, for 2GB total lol... doubt that's even possible.
[11:48] <lupine_85> anti-virus software?
[11:49] <richard> yeah
[11:49] <stjepan> my new terminal: http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/5514/screenshotxc6.png :))) what do you think?
[11:49] <spazz> Bet there woul dbe some way to hack it though ... it IS Linux.
[11:49] <OmegaNine> ... lupine_85  WTF?
[11:49] <lupine_85> spazz: FUSE could do it
[11:49] <OmegaNine> Im sure Norton will sell you something
[11:49] <Madpilot> richard, there's no real need for AV software on Linux
[11:49] <lupine_85> OmegaNine: cross-reference richard
[11:49] <lupine_85> clamav for email
[11:49] <spazz> FUSE?
[11:49] <grexk> spazz: look into ubuntu lite in forums
[11:49] <Andy> ompaul: how do i install that .deb file!? :)
[11:49] <spazz> That splits apart a filesystem?
[11:49] <ompaul> Andy, it is all on that page - next line after how you get it just follow the steps
[11:49] <lupine_85> Filesystem in USEr space
[11:50] <lukumi> richard: try AVG
[11:50] <lupine_85> it's a pain to set up though
[11:50] <ompaul> Andy, it will help you more than irc can
[11:50] <Andy> ompaul: im really confused could you help me step by step?
[11:50] <lupine_85> but it's great - you can merge different physical drives into one disc, etc.
[11:50] <richard> its just that my ip has beeen blacklisted cos they say i have some kind of mail spam virus
[11:50] <spazz> Well. I am just wanting an easy way to be able to use my system without my HDD lol.
[11:51] <lupine_85> Richard: could be that you're running an smtp server?
[11:51] <OmegaNine> Thats weird.    How about live CD + your /home directory on your USB stick?
[11:51] <lukumi> Madpilot: try AVG
[11:51] <spazz> I can't install Windows - I lost the third disc for my recovery suite.
[11:51] <lukumi> richard http://www.grisoft.com/doc/1
[11:51] <grexk> richard: do u have smtp server?
[11:51] <DarkMageZ> richard, there is clamav in the repositories. changes are that whoever is saying you have a virus has their info wrong
[11:52] <richard> just basic ubuntu DVD install
[11:52] <spazz> lupine_85:  lol that was kinda what I was thinking but I thought maybe I just didn't understand something ...
[11:52] <graveson> where can i find the latest package for qdvduthor and mkdvd ,the version for the former  has a bug in it and the latter is not available in ubuntu
[11:52] <spazz> I have the Live CD running right now. How I am here. I got xChat installed with Synaptic.
[11:52] <ompaul> Andy, read each line follow the steps ask very specific questions about each line you can do it, it is not that hard :) just take your time
[11:52] <richard> yes i use my isp's smtp server
[11:53] <richard> and i have one for remote hosting also
[11:53] <spazz> So... I just want to have a way to save my configuration......... like. I want to be able to customize my Ubuntu --- have codecs, and themes... but since it's Live CD ... if it crashed I want to be able to save it all ... to USB stick .
[11:53] <ompaul> Andy, it is a step by step guide
[11:53] <grexk> richard: your smtp server might be open relay
[11:53] <grexk> its not related to antivirus anyway
[11:53] <richard> spazz thats a good idea .... save ubuntu - easy backup situation - id like to do that too
[11:54] <richard> rather than have to reinstall all the libs again
[11:54] <lupine_85> spazz: if you mount your /home directory on one USB stick, that'll save all your user setings
[11:54] <Madpilot> spazz, you can do that w/ a usb stick & a liveCD
[11:54] <lupine_85> your /lib, /etc and /usr is another matter
[11:54] <Arafangi1n> You can generally ignore /lib and /usr
[11:54] <grexk> !rsync
[11:54] <ubotu> rsync: fast remote file copy program (like rcp). In component main, is standard. Version 2.6.6-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 214 kB, installed size 444 kB
[11:54] <lupine_85> depends if you're installing software or not ;)
[11:54] <spazz> Would I be able to install media codecs ? I want mp3s and divx/xvid to work.
[11:55] <Andy> ompaul: what? the link you gave me? no it isn't. please resend link
[11:55] <richard> is the 64 bit Ubuntu still buggie?
[11:55] <ompaul> Andy,  have a look at this page: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/dists/dapper-cafuego/bcm43xx/  <--
[11:55] <redondo81> someone can tell me e good software to develop web pages on linux?Thanks
[11:56] <grexk> redondo81: quanta plus
[11:56] <lupine_85> redondo81: kate or gedit ;)
[11:56] <Thunderpants> redondo81, nvu is quite good
[11:56] <Andy> ompaul: how can i do deb http:// if im not connected to the net on ubuntu?
[11:56] <grexk> or kate or vim
[11:56] <redondo81> quanta plus or kate or gedit?What's the best?
[11:57] <ompaul> Andy, can you plug in an ethernet cable?
[11:57] <grexk> for quanta plus
[11:57] <Andy> ompaul: nope
[11:57] <grexk> for me*
[11:57] <ompaul> Andy, is it the same machine as you are on now?
[11:57] <Andy> ompaul: yes
[11:57] <redondo81> ok, thank you very much
[11:57] <richard> cos i have gained enough confidence now to ditch windows on my mobile 64 athlon and install ubuntu 64 .... should i?
[11:58] <richard> bugs?
[11:58] <lupine_85> only if you use the 64-bit address space
[11:58] <grexk> why not try it...
[11:58] <CyberMad> i already download ubuntu 6.06 desktop, how to install as server mode? i just need the console..
[11:58] <spazz> Would I be able to install media codecs ? I want mp3s and divx/xvid to work.
[11:58] <lupine_85> TBH there's not a great deal of point otherwise
[11:58] <KenSentMe>  Is there a way to resize a windows ntfs partition in Ubuntu like the installer does?
[11:58] <stjepan> my new terminal: http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/5514/screenshotxc6.png :))) what do you think? Take a look at the screenshot. BTW it is written in C#, it uses Mono, GTK# and VTE#.
[11:58] <lupine_85> KenSentMe: not a good idea. Use windows instead
[11:58] <Andy> ompaul: what should I do?
[11:58] <richard> does oOo support 64bit
[11:58] <lupine_85> Linux ntfs support is still flaky
[11:59] <ompaul> Andy, I am writing something please wait
[11:59] <redondo81> On Adepter Manager I have only Quanto to download, not Quanta Plus, is the same?
[11:59] <Andy> ompaul: sorry :(
[11:59] <graveson> where can i find the latest package for qdvduthor and mkdvd - the former has a bug and the latter is not available ?
[11:59] <spazz> lupine_85:  I heard NTFS3g works very well.
[11:59] <RvGaTe> I have a dual screen setup, 2 identical screens... using my left on on VGA, and my right one on DVI, when i want to use the highest resolution possible, the VGA screen fails to automaticly adjust the screen into possition (using the "auto" button on the screen)... why is this such a difference? shouldn't it just be able to display it correctly? im wondering if this can be an config error becouse it displayed correctly without using the nvidia-d
[11:59] <RvGaTe> rivers
[11:59] <lupine_85> I wouldn't use it
[11:59] <lupine_85> but that's just me :)
[11:59] <KenSentMe> lupine_85: i know, but i don't know any open source programs and i have a ghost image of the disk. I know it's not a good idea, but that wasn't my question
[12:00] <lupine_85> try spazz's suggestion then
[12:00] <redondo81> can anyone tell me if quanta or quanta plus is the same thing?
[12:00] <spazz> KenSentMe:  Just a minute, I am getting a URL for you.
[12:00] <lupine_85> !quanta
[12:00] <ubotu> quanta: web development environment for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 2295 kB, installed size 5600 kB
[12:00] <lupine_85> !quanta-plus
[12:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about quanta-plus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:00] <redondo81> ok, thanks
[12:01] <ompaul> Andy, save the file to a usb key and print off the web page is one way, save the web page to the usb key also, or a floppy or burn a cdrom, you have many options including saving both to your current users desktop and then *reading* that desktop from ubuntu, here are the instuctions for that: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountNtfsOnBoot
[12:01] <ompaul> Andy, now I must off and do the work that makes my life easier :)
[12:02] <malv> is it possible to install windows on a disk that has an lvm partition?
[12:02] <Andy> ompaul: I use my PSP to transfer the files
[12:02] <Andy> ompaul: but I still have no idea about this firmware bcm43xx tuff
[12:03] <earth|afk> hello
[12:03] <Tomtheman70> I had an issue while installing xubuntu, the select and install software portion of the install failed.
[12:03] <Tomtheman70> I'm using the alternate PC install
[12:03] <Tomtheman70> text based.
[12:03] <KenSentMe> spazz: lupine_85, if you install libntfs8 and/or ntfsprogs gparted can resize the ntfs partition
[12:03] <Andy> ompaul: once i get the .deb file over onto my linux what do i do?
[12:04] <earth|afk> need help with installiation of ubuntu. the setup partition manager does not see my 2 NTFS partitions in my hard drive device! what could cause that????? plz help?
[12:04] <spazz> KenSentMe:  hey, I have a webpage for you , just a sec
[12:04] <spazz> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[12:04] <spazz> That is a guide for getting the NTFS driver working.
[12:04] <spazz> Full Read/Write support.
[12:04] <KenSentMe> spazz: ah, thanx
[12:04] <spazz> Pretty stable ... even though it is a beta.
[12:04] <deep> Is there a command to see the users on the system?
[12:05] <Madpilot> deep, "w" will show you that
[12:05] <earth|afk> i do not need the ntfs drive to work, i need to remove ONE partition and leave another so i would have a partition where i can install the ubuntu
[12:05] <Zeeshan> I am a newbie. Can somebody please tell me how to install java5 on ubuntu
[12:05] <deep> Umm, no. I mean..
[12:05] <deep> i want to mount a disc with "uid", and i dunno my uid. How can i find out?
[12:06] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Zeeshan about java
[12:06] <ompaul> Andy, follow the instructions on the web page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx :--> sudo dpkg -i bcm43xx-firmware_1.2-0ubuntu1_all.deb <-- but you also need more info and to copy more data as for a PSP I have no idea what that is
[12:06] <spazz> KenSentMe: http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710
[12:06] <ompaul> Andy, now I am off to work
[12:06] <spazz> Another guide, just for reference.
[12:07] <Andy> ompaul: a PSP is a PlayStationPortable. its a gaming system with a 1gb memory stick duo in it
[12:07] <Sp4rKy> please where is set the path using to looking for libraries ?
[12:07] <shinobi2> i have this error http://rafb.net/paste/results/ULlxz536.html is this very bad?
[12:07] <Tomtheman70> ompaul, PSP is a playstation portable, you can use the flash drive inside the "PSP' to transfer files.
[12:07] <fuci> Hello, how can I uninstall Kubuntu and all of its programs from my Ubuntu, or how can I hide the appiclations installed by Kubuntu from my menus? Thanks.
[12:08] <EVRAMP> hi pls what FTP Cleint would you recommand me for gnome? i need drag and drop, sftp support etc. THANX
[12:08] <deep> nvm
[12:08] <lupine_85> gFTP
[12:08] <EVRAMP> i dont like gFTP
[12:08] <spazz> How can I make the Terminal transparent?
[12:08] <lupine_85>  Andy: you can get the bcm43xx firmware here: http://www.lupine.me.uk/bcm43xx/bcm43xx-firmware.tar.gz
[12:08] <ompaul> Andy, one last thing - get yourself a small ethernet cable and plug into a router somewhere it will come up and you will have the ability to have the machine online with its instructions make your life easy now I am gone
[12:08] <_azrael> spazz: What terminal?
[12:08] <deep> spazz: Depends what terminal ur using =)
[12:08] <spazz> !java
[12:09] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[12:09] <Madpilot> EVRAMP, Gnome's file manager, Nautilus, can do sftp & such
[12:09] <EVRAMP> ok thanx
[12:09] <lupine_85> just unzip the files into /lib/firmware
[12:09] <Andy> ompaul: my router is very very far away
[12:09] <spazz> _azrael: The default Terminal that comes with Ubuntu - in the Accessories menu.
[12:10] <_azrael> spazz: OK, sorry, I can't help with that one.
[12:10] <_azrael> deep: Do you know?
[12:10] <Andy> lupine_85: how do i extract to /lib/firmware?
[12:10] <deep> spazz: gnome-terminal i guess.. umm.. i should know that.
[12:10] <spazz> Well. What Terminal can I use that looks cool? lol.
[12:10] <deep> spazz: Hold on a sec.
[12:10] <_azrael> spazz: Personally I use Eterm.
[12:10] <deep> spazz: Konsole :)
[12:10] <spazz> I will download that.
[12:11] <_azrael> spazz: mrxvt works decently too.
[12:11] <lupine_85> Andy: "sudo tar -xzvf <filename>" in console will do it
[12:11] <Andy> lupine_85: console is terminal right?
[12:11] <lupine_85> yes
[12:11] <ndlovu> hi all. thunderbrd has suddenly started freezing during mail checks. can anyone here help me debug the issue?
[12:11] <spazz> I am in the Live CD - how do I gain ROOT? Or make my own account? I want to be able to save my /home/ directory ..... and also, I want to be able to save my codecs, and mp3 support settings on my Flash drive - can I do that?
[12:11] <Andy> lupine_85: but how will it extract to /lib/firmware if i don't even tell it to?
[12:12] <lupine_85> it's a tarbomb (dumps everything into the current directory) so your best bet is to open a console...
[12:12] <Madpilot> spazz, sudo works without a password on the liveCD
[12:12] <lupine_85> type 'cd /lib/firmware'
[12:12] <Andy> ok then?
[12:12] <lupine_85> then 'sudo wget http://www.lupine.me.uk/bcm43xx/bcm43xx-firmware.tar.gz' (which copies the file to your HD from the Internet)
[12:12] <lupine_85> then 'sudo tar -xzvf bcm43xx-firmware.tar.gz'
[12:13] <fyrestrtr> you don't need sudo for that
[12:13] <Andy> lupine_85: ok il do my best
[12:13] <lupine_85> in /lib/firmware?
[12:13] <_azrael> fyrestrtr: Yeah you do, you're under /lib
[12:13] <Andy> lupine_85: im going to reboot wish me luck :)
[12:13] <deep> spazz: Umm. You can gain root-access in a console with "sudo -i", in system-menu up there, you can add users. Umm.. dunno about the codecs and mp3support though.
[12:13] <lupine_85> ...ok. no need though :)
[12:13] <spazz> Well. I tried to install Eterm with apt-get .... and it said "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open ..... ect ect ect...
[12:13] <Andy> lupine_85: cya
[12:13] <chris449> i've been told to cd ../app/glxcompmgr but it can't find the directory. I know it's there, does .. mean somethign special?
[12:13] <fyrestrtr> DO NOT transfer stuff into /lib -- wget it to another directory, extract it there, them MOVE it to /lib/
[12:13] <deep> spazz: If you moung the flashdrive, you can move your homefolder in it though. :)
[12:14] <deep> spazz: mount*
[12:14] <fyrestrtr> don't get into a habit of polluting your /lib, /usr/ /bin/ /sbin/ /etc/ directories -- just because you feel like it.
[12:14] <_azrael> spazz: Are you trying to install packages onto a liveCD system? Generally, you should install it before you try to add packages.
[12:14] <lupine_85> furestrtr: ...so where else would you put firmware
[12:14] <spazz> Well. Basically I just want to be able to use my system like a normal system - just have everything saved to USB - if it crashes or power goesout.
[12:14] <spazz> I can't install it - my HDD Is broken lol.
[12:15] <fyrestrtr> lupine_85: download and extracting should be done in your home directory. Then, you should only move those files needed to /lib
[12:15] <spazz> Why I am trying to get USB deal to work.
[12:15] <lupine_85> ...with a tarbomb?
[12:15] <_azrael> spazz: You're going to have issues with installing any packages at all then. Some of it may work, but I highly doubt i.
[12:15] <lupine_85> you can always delete the .tar.gz afterwards
[12:15] <fyrestrtr> lupine_85: its not best practice, and we try to encourage best practices here.
[12:15] <spazz> oh. argh. like what kind of issues. Why would I have issues?
[12:16] <lupine_85> ah opinions of best practice obviously differ :)
[12:16] <spazz> I am not saying I won't, but I want to know what causes them.
[12:16] <fyrestrtr> lupine_85: no, 'best practice' is not an opinion ;)
[12:16] <CyberMad> i'm new with ubuntu (before ubuntu i use debian and kubuntu), after boot from CD then i choose installation with low graphics mode.. then there is desktop, i click install icon in desktop.. but why when selecting "Where are you" in world so slow??
[12:16] <lupine_85> though TBH 1 .tar.gz in /lib/firmware for 2 minutes... or 20. .fw files on your desktop for 2 minutes... neither is an issue
[12:16] <ndlovu> does anyone know if there's a debugging version of thunderbird? (I see there's a package mozilla-thunderbird-inspector, but no -dbg)
[12:16] <fuci> How do I make new windows to my Screen program? It currently only has 1 that is used by irssi.
[12:16] <lupine_85> so the deciding factor is 'which one is easiest to explain to Andy?
[12:17] <fyrestrtr> fuci: ctrl+a+n
[12:17] <fyrestrtr> lupine_85: that's a dumb deciding factor. Easy is never best practice. Just ask Microsoft.
[12:17] <RMorris85> real quick... how do u restart xwindows?
[12:17] <RMorris85> what terminal command?
[12:17] <lupine_85> unnecessary protocol is another problem MS have...
[12:17] <fuci> fyrestrtr: "No other window",
[12:18] <stormzoeker> sometimes you just need MS :S
[12:18] <RvGaTe> With the alternative install, what's the difference between "Install in text mode"  and "Install in OEM mode"  ?
[12:18] <fyrestrtr> fuci: ctrl+a+c
[12:18] <fyrestrtr> RvGaTe: the options you get.
[12:18] <fyrestrtr> RMorris85: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[12:18] <lupine_85> OEM mode uses a script to determine the right options to use
[12:18] <fuci> fyrestrtr: Thank you. ^___^
[12:18] <RvGaTe> fyrestrtr, what kind of options?
[12:18] <lupine_85> text mode gives you the options
[12:18] <CyberMad> FYI, i use VMware in windows, so install the ubuntu via VMware in Pentium M 1,3 GHz with 512 MB, i set the HD size to 8 GB
[12:18] <Sakireth> I made a guest account. how to make it auto-login on GDM after 30 seconds? i set the time login but then, when the time is up, it says it was an unsuccesful login or something. Anyone?
[12:19] <fyrestrtr> RvGaTe: one is for customizing the system for the initial user -- generally, you don't want the oem install...ever.
[12:19] <Madpilot> RvGaTe, text mode is the default - oem mode is for pre-installing stuff on computers that you're not actually going to be using - like for selling them.
[12:19] <RMorris85> fyrestrtr, how do u kill and restart in terminal?
[12:19] <RvGaTe> lupine_85, it would be much appriciate it if you reply/answer with <nickname>: yourmessage....
[12:19] <CyberMad> now, i can not move my mouse... the ubuntu so slow! :(
[12:19] <RvGaTe> fyrestrtr, maddler text mode it is then :P
[12:19] <fyrestrtr> RMorris85: I just told you? sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[12:20] <lupine_85> Sakireth: you can set accounts to login without needing a password... not sure if you can add a time limit to that as well though#
[12:20] <CyberMad> i would to know how to install in text mode?
[12:20] <lupine_85> RvGaTe: Would help if people didn't use 1337 hax0r IRC nicks ;)
[12:20] <Arafangi1n> CyberMad: Ubuntu is exceptionally fast, it's well known that it's faster than windows and mac.
[12:20] <Sakireth> lupine_85: how?
[12:20] <fyrestrtr> Sakireth: the option is there in the gdm configuration dialog.
[12:20] <fyrestrtr> Arafangi1n: where did you find that info? :)
[12:20] <Sakireth> lupine_85: When i set the auto-login without a timer, it will login automatically on bootup, right?
[12:20] <Arafangi1n> CyberMad: It's VMware that's slow - though it helps if you install the vmware tools.
[12:20] <Arafangi1n> fyrestrtr: Personal experience, plus all my friends confirm that :)
[12:20] <lupine_85> Sakireth: ^wot he said^ (and "yes" to your last q)
[12:21] <CyberMad> Arafangi1n ok, i try install the VMware tools
[12:21] <Arafangi1n> CyberMad: Years ago, when I used VMware, I found that using X11, with the vmware tools, thens to be much faster than not using the tools.
[12:21] <Sakireth> lupine_85: Well, how to set it passwordless without it logging in auto, then?
[12:21] <fyrestrtr> I don't know, I have a very fast mac :)
[12:21] <fyrestrtr> I'm not saying ubuntu is slow, but really.
[12:22] <lupine_85> Sakireth: don't know if you can with the options available
[12:23] <lupine_85> A password of 'guest' on your 'guest' account would solve your problem, however
[12:23] <CyberMad> Arafangi1n i must install it after ubuntu already installed, right?
[12:23] <bony> how to select new locales? dpkg-reconfigure locales is not working
[12:23] <bony> i am using ubuntu dapper
[12:23] <lupine_85> Sakireth: Just make sure you're not running an ssh daemon ;)
[12:23] <stormzoeker> CyberMad: that's correct
[12:24] <Andy> lupine_85: I installed the firmware and stuff but it still says bcmwl5 invalid driver!
[12:24] <Sakireth> lupine_85: No, i mean, i want GDM to login into guest automatically after 10 seconds, so i still have time to login with the main account. Reason for that is a lot of personal files.
[12:24] <GTroy__> anyone know if I should add http://localhost:8888/ for gnump3d to apache2's httpd.conf file?
[12:24] <CyberMad> Arafangi1n the problem is when i click install icon in desktop.. then choose my country in world picture.. very2 slow :( i must power off the virtual machine and start it again.. because looks like the ubuntu hang.
[12:24] <Sakireth> lupine_85: But when i set the timed login, it says it was an invalid passwor
[12:24] <Sakireth> d
[12:24] <GTroy__> hello everyone
[12:24] <Zeeshan> I am getting following error when I run sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin in the terminal
[12:24] <Zeeshan> (03:22:57) ZM: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[12:24] <Zeeshan> (03:22:57) ZM:   sun-java5-bin: Depends: unixodbc but it is not installable
[12:24] <Zeeshan> (03:22:57) ZM: E: Broken packages
[12:24] <CyberMad> ok, i tried the text... maybe better here
[12:24] <hexxa> where i can get the ubuntu dapper whit xorg 6.9???!! need help to find it
[12:24] <bony> Zeeshan, use pastbin
[12:25] <GTroy__> !gnump3d
[12:25] <ubotu> gnump3d: A streaming server for MP3 and OGG files. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.9.8-2 (dapper), package size 634 kB, installed size 2676 kB
[12:25] <GTroy__> hmmm
[12:25] <Zeeshan> bony, I don't know how to use pastbin
[12:25] <bony> Zeeshan, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ check this link
[12:25] <Zeeshan> bony, what is pastbin
[12:26] <lupine_85> Sakireth: you could be asking for something that GDM can't do, then
[12:26] <bony> Zeeshan, it is the place were in you will paste output of a command code etc
[12:26] <Andy> lupine_85: can you help me?
[12:26] <jaaroo_> hello there. Can I use apt-build to rebuild packages with nonstandard CFLAGS? How can I do that? I'm still searching... (without success).
[12:26] <Sakireth> lupine_85: Aww.. too bad
[12:26] <Sakireth> lupine_85: How to display you have to login with guest, then?
[12:27] <lupine_85> Andy: does it say why it's an invalid driver? And what driver is it?
[12:27] <lupine_85> Off a CD or latest from the Internet?
[12:27] <Andy> lupine_85: no it doesn't say why and its a belkin (broadcom)
[12:27] <lupine_85> Sakireth: You could probably customise the theme for that. No doubt there's an easier way, but I don't know it (sorry)
[12:28] <lupine_85> You could always ask the gdm developers to implement your feature; that way, it might be in the next release ;)
[12:28] <Sakireth> lupine_85: If i set automatic login, will I be able to switch into my main account?
[12:28] <lupine_85> Andy: where did you get the driver from?
[12:28] <Andy> lupine_85: from C:\WINDOWS\inf\
[12:29] <Andy> lupine_85: and I tried the other one from the cd
[12:29] <lupine_85> ...download the latest one for your card from the manufacturer's website, and try again
[12:29] <Andy> lupine_85: the latest inf file?
[12:29] <lupine_85> The latest everything. The inf file references other files that also need to be present
[12:29] <OmegaNine> !xgl
[12:30] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:30] <lupine_85> and the latest drivers have the best chance of working
[12:30] <Andy> lupine_85: should I look for belkin or broadcom?
[12:30] <lupine_85> Go to the Belkin website and download the ones for your specific card
[12:30] <lupine_85> it'll be in the support section somewhere
[12:30] <Andy> lupine_85: what do u mean by "ones"
[12:30] <lupine_85> "drivers"
[12:31] <Andy> lupine_85: what sorta files will the "drivers" be?
[12:31] <lupine_85> it could be anything. zip, self-extracting exe...
[12:31] <lupine_85> ...installshield wizard
[12:31] <lupine_85> best way to find out is to go and look
[12:32] <Andy> lupine_85: iv already tried that version
[12:32] <Andy> lupine_85: doesn't work
[12:33] <itachi> Can someone please tell me how to fully remove Wine? I messed up and need to start again, I have used sudo apt-get remove wine
[12:33] <itachi> , but wine still shows up when I write wine in terminal...
[12:34] <lupine_85> Andy: if you can't find any working drivers under ndiswrapper, maybe try the native driver?
[12:34] <Andy> lupine_85: native driver? please expliain
[12:35] <stjepan> my new terminal: http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/5514/screenshotxc6.png :))) what do you think? Take a look at the screenshot. BTW it is written in C#, it uses Mono, GTK# and VTE#.
[12:35] <lupine_85> I mentioned it earlier; bcm43xx (you've got it blacklisted right now)
[12:35] <bilss_> hi
[12:35] <lupine_85> easy to see if it'll work: 1) edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist to change "blacklist bcm43xx" to "blacklist ndiswrapper"
[12:35] <lupine_85> 2) run "sudo modprobe bcm43xx"
[12:36] <bhrobinson> is there a configuration program to set the ip address, or does one need to vi the file?
[12:36] <lupine_85> bhrobinson: "ip" or "ifconfig" will do what you want
[12:36] <NineTeen67Comet> Hi all .. When I try to reboot or shutdown the box makes it all the way to "Will Reboot Now" (where it normally starts to shutdown and reboot) and stalls for ever .. where can I look to see wtf is going on?
[12:36] <Zeeshan> what does this error mean "sun-java5-bin: Depends: unixodbc but it is not installable"
[12:36] <lupine_85> (ifconfig is deprecated but the syntax is easier to understand)
[12:37] <bilss_> ifI want to create a file called .forward in my  home dir is it just a simple command  touch .forward?
[12:37] <fyrestrtr> bilss_: yes
[12:37] <Andy> lupine_85: what do i do after i "sudo modprobe bcm43xx"?
[12:37] <Zeeshan> what does this error mean "sun-java5-bin: Depends: unixodbc but it is not installable" is there some problem with my ubuntu installation....I m getting this error when I try to install sun-java5
[12:37] <bilss_> fyrestrtr: ok thanks
[12:38] <bhrobinson> lupine_85, how would I go about doing that? I am only used to checking the current ip with ifconfig
[12:38] <lupine_85> Andy: see if your wireless lan interface is up
[12:38] <Andy> lupine_85: by doing?
[12:38] <lupine_85> Andy: e.g. ifconfig -a
[12:38] <Zeeshan> what does this error mean "sun-java5-bin: Depends: unixodbc but it is not installable" is there some problem with my ubuntu installation....I m getting this error when I try to install sun-java5
[12:38] <lupine_85> and looking for 'wlan0' or similar
[12:38] <Zeeshan> what does this error mean "sun-java5-bin: Depends: unixodbc but it is not installable" is there some problem with my ubuntu installation....I m getting this error when I try to install sun-java5
[12:38] <lupine_85> bhrobinson: the best way is "sudo ip addr add <ip address> dev <interface>"
[12:39] <Zeeshan> how to solve it?
[12:39] <lupine_85> man ip and man ifconfig will give you full instructions
[12:39] <Andy> lupine_85: ok i will
[12:39] <lupine_85> Zeeshan: you need to install the unixodbc package
[12:39] <lupine_85> !unixodbc
[12:39] <ubotu> unixodbc: ODBC tools libraries. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.11-11build1 (dapper), package size 262 kB, installed size 780 kB
[12:39] <lupine_85> that shouldn't be a problem to install..
[12:40] <Zeeshan> where can I get it from
[12:40] <itachi> Can someone please tell me how to fully remove Wine? I messed up and need to start again, I have used sudo apt-get remove wine , but wine still shows up when I write wine in terminal...
[12:40] <Zeeshan> please
[12:40] <RvGaTe> Does the text-mode install need internet to get the packages from? becouse it fails with every package for some reason
[12:40] <lupine_85> RvGaTe: IT doesn't need the 'net.
[12:40] <SanketMedhi> lupine_85: what is sudo ip addr add <ip address> dev <interface> for?
[12:40] <lupine_85> Is your cd corrupted?
[12:40] <spazz> Is there a way to save my settings onto a USB Flashdrive? ...... I want to be able to use the LiveCD ... but be able to install some packages (maybe to the Flashdrive, or ext HDD)  .... and install media codecs - and don't want system to crash and then haveto redo everything.
[12:41] <RvGaTe> lupine_85, thats what im going to find out now
[12:41] <lupine_85> SanketMedhi: it's for bhrobinson
[12:41] <SanketMedhi> lupine_85: I know, but what is it used for?
[12:41] <lupine_85> to add an ip address to the interface name
[12:41] <lupine_85> ...d
[12:41] <SanketMedhi> lupine_85: you mean an alis?
[12:41] <SanketMedhi> alias*
[12:42] <lupine_85> if it alread has an IP address, then yes
[12:42] <Teemu1> Hi I just downloaded a demo of the game cold war for linux and after the intro movie it crashes and gives me this error:check: OpenGL error 1285 detected: out of memory (GLuint meng::renderer::Stream::create_vbo_memory_block(const meng::renderer::stream_meta_data::StreamMetaData&, const meng::byte*)) (stream_memory_opengl.cpp:70)
[12:42] <lupine_85> if not, then no
[12:42] <SanketMedhi> lupine_85: I tried it, but I don't see the ip in ifconfig, though its pinging
[12:42] <lupine_85> Teemu1: can your graphics card handle it?
[12:42] <lupine_85> SanketMedhi: ifconfig is obsolete. Does it show in "ip addr show" ?
[12:42] <Teemu1> yeah i have an ati radeon 9550 and i installed the correct drivers
[12:43] <hamdan> i want to open deb pakceg
[12:43] <hamdan> as root
[12:43] <lupine_85> maybe try setting the amount of video RAM you have on the card manually ?
[12:43] <lupine_85> (option in /etc/X1/xorg.conf)
[12:43] <SanketMedhi> lupine_85: oh yes it does, great thanks
[12:43] <fyrestrtr> Teemu1: how much ram do you have on the machine, and how much swap?
[12:43] <lupine_85> Teemu1: As lack of (video) RAM is what it's complaining about
[12:44] <Teemu1> i just googled a bit and found the following text:''
[12:44] <Teemu1> Add the following line to your config.txt file:
[12:44] <Teemu1> compatibility_fix_disable_vertex_buffer_objects true''
[12:44] <Teemu1> how can i edit my config.txt file?
[12:44] <hamdan> how i can install deb packeg by terminal
[12:44] <fyrestrtr> hamdan: first, is it a deb package for ubuntu dapper?
[12:45] <hamdan> no
[12:45] <spazz> Is there a way to save all the installed programs to a USB Flashdrive from the LiveCD - so I can use it somewhere else?
[12:45] <fyrestrtr> hamdan: then don't install it.
[12:45] <lupine_85> hamdan: "sudo dpkg -i <package>" will install the package. Whether you should is another matter
[12:45] <fyrestrtr> spazz: that won't work like you expect.
[12:45] <lupine_85> most packages for "Debian" will work
[12:45] <fyrestrtr> lupine_85: NO
[12:45] <RvGaTe> lupine_85, cd was indeed corrupted
[12:45] <spazz> fyrestrtr:  what should I do? ... and what is a good alternate option for me?
[12:45] <lupine_85> things get hairy when you start expecting kernel, etc. to work
[12:46] <negativecreep> Hi folks
[12:46] <lupine_85> fyrestrtr: why not?
[12:46] <negativecreep> I need some help with automounting of usb drives.
[12:46] <lupine_85> A lot of programs come with generic .debs
[12:46] <fyrestrtr> do not ... EVER ... tell people to install debian packages on ubuntu.
[12:46] <negativecreep> I am using kubuntu 6.06
[12:46] <lupine_85> ?
[12:46] <lupine_85> seriously
[12:46] <fyrestrtr> no, I'm serious.
[12:46] <SanketMedhi> I am facing a tiny problem. I am using Ubuntu Dapper with Firefox 1.5 . Every time I open a link from an external app, Firefox opens the same page, which I opened a few days ago. I think it has to do something with the cache/tmp files. any solution?
[12:46] <Teemu1> how can I edit my graphic cards config.txt file?
[12:46] <lupine_85> fyrestrtr :why?
[12:46] <fyrestrtr> Teemu1: the config.txt file is for the game, not the graphics card.
[12:46] <lupine_85> its a .deb for a reason
[12:47] <Teemu1> I mean the drivers config.tx file
[12:47] <Teemu1> fyrestrtr:oh thanks
[12:47] <fyrestrtr> lupine_85: because it breaks ubuntu, that's why. Just because ubuntu is *based* on debian, doesn't mean you can install debian packages on it.  Just trust me when I tell you, don't do it, and don't recommend it, okay?
[12:48] <x1alpha> Can dapper run on ReiserFS ? cause i have the impression that the installer is gonna trash all my hard disk.Including windows partitions.
[12:48] <lupine_85> the remaining 1% is likely to be system related
[12:49] <lupine_85> which are amply provided for in the repositories
[12:49] <lupine_85> but .deb is easier - and arguably safer - than compiling from source
[12:49] <lupine_85> x1alpha: you can use reiserfs
[12:49] <mjr> x1alpha, it can, and it will by default
[12:50] <fyrestrtr> lupine_85: like I said, I'm not going to argue, just to tell you, do not recommend it.
[12:50] <phenol> can i change the kernel configuration without recompiling from source?
[12:50] <lupine_85> mixing *repositories* is a bad idea, for certain. individual debs is not a problem
[12:51] <lupine_85> feel free
[12:51] <bhrobinson> how do you stop and start services on ubuntu?
[12:51] <lupine_85> phenol: not really. You can load/unload individual modules
[12:51] <bhrobinson> I am used to Fedora...
[12:51] <lupine_85> anything compiled in you can't do much about
[12:51] <SanketMedhi> bhrobinson: go to System >> Administration >> Services
[12:51] <lupine_85> unless it can be controlled via. /proc or /sys
[12:51] <bhrobinson> running server without gui, sorry
[12:51] <SanketMedhi> bhrobinson: or use /etc/init.d/servicename stop/start/restart
[12:51] <lupine_85> bhrobinson: /etc/init.d/*
[12:52] <lupine_85> snap ;)
[12:52] <lab_monkey> anyone know wat packages are nescessary to compile openGL projects ??
[12:52] <bhrobinson> ah... tryiing to get dhcp going
[12:52] <bhrobinson> thanks
[12:52] <phenol> my problem is with usplash
[12:52] <fyrestrtr> lab_monkey: build-essential, plus the -dev versions of any dependencies.
[12:52] <lab_monkey> thanx
[12:53] <phenol> i have 2.6.17-8 installed with boot up logo disabled and 2.6.17-11 installed with boot up logo enabled. on 2.6.17-8 i get a usplash and 2.6.17-11 i get no usplash
[12:53] <lupine_85> heh, typical ;)
[12:54] <phenol> i followed this post to change the default usplash color http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=82835&highlight=usplash+color
[12:54] <phenol> but it appeared fine on 2.6.17-8 (with boot up logo unchecked) and didnt work in 2.6.17-11 (with boot up logo checked)
[12:55] <lupine_85> ah, usplash is completely different to the kernel boot-time logo
[12:55] <lupine_85> it could well be that usplash is only activating when the boot logo is deactivated
[12:55] <lupine_85> (it's a penguin...)
[12:55] <lupine_85> easy fix would be to uninstall usplash
[12:56] <lupine_85> (it's a user-space tool, not kernel)
[12:57] <phenol> yes but i dont like that easy fix
[12:58] <lupine_85> it doesn't seem to install any documentation...
[12:58] <lupine_85> ...is it in any of the rc directories?
[12:58] <phenol> ok so how do i edit the kernel configuration of my already compiled kernel (i.e. load its settings into it)
[12:58] <hamdan> how i can login as root
[12:58] <hamdan> ?
[12:58] <fyrestrtr> !root > hamdan
[12:58] <lupine_85> phenol: doing so is pointless
[12:59] <lupine_85> the .config file is only used at compile-time
[12:59] <fyrestrtr> you can only load/unload modules.
[12:59] <phenol> yes but i want to load into it so i dont have to go through all the checkboxes
[12:59] <lupine_85> hamdan: ubuntu comes without a root password by default - you use sudo to be root
[12:59] <fyrestrtr> you don't load a configuration.
[12:59] <lupine_85> in that case, you use "make oldconfig"
[12:59] <x1alpha> Okee.. and the setup didn't tell me anything about detecting windows... will it be added to grub anyway ?
[01:00] <fyrestrtr> phenol: copy the .config file from your old kernel, then do what lupine said.
[01:00] <lupine_85> then "make config" to edit any new/changed options
[01:00] <lupine_85> ...you don't need to copy the .config
[01:00] <lupine_85> make oldconfig pulls it from the /proc, or the /boot
[01:01] <OmegaNine> RAH im getting that "XGL sucks" feeling.  Anyone know where Xgl keeps its logs?
[01:01] <OmegaNine> OR, how to disable the system beeps?
[01:02] <Relisxc> Probably in etc/xgl
[01:02] <fyrestrtr> OmegaNine: try /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /var/log/Xorg.93.log
[01:02] <gwz> hi there.. i've just installed ubuntu, but i cant seem to get the wireless card to work. i got a ralink2500-chipsset, and i have downloaded the drivers, but i dont know what to type to install them...
[01:02] <lupine_85> gwz: "sudo make install" if you've already compiled them :)
[01:02] <SanketMedhi> OmegaNine: go to System >> Preferences >> Sounds
[01:02] <lupine_85> gwz: Or I've got a repository running for those cards
[01:02] <OmegaNine> Cool.
[01:02] <fyrestrtr> !wifi
[01:02] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:02] <lupine_85> (if you're using a -386 kernel)
[01:02] <fyrestrtr> gwz: check there first
[01:03] <OmegaNine> fyrestrtr, So it puts its logs in Xorgs logs?
[01:03] <fyrestrtr> yes, since its running on top of x
[01:03] <OmegaNine> DAMN!  THat means its not giving me errors
[01:03] <fyrestrtr> lol that's another problem :P
[01:03] <fyrestrtr> also try ~/.xsession-errors
[01:04] <Bogaurd> i'm running ubuntu dapper drake, i noticed when i do a df -h recently, i have a bunch of weird partitions listed, like varrun, varlock & some others - what are these?
[01:04] <lupine_85> Bogaurd: they're virtual partitions run by the kernel
[01:04] <lupine_85> you don't need to worry about them - just don't unmount them ;)
[01:04] <Bogaurd> lupine_85: hmm. i also have this one:
[01:04] <Zeeshan> where can i get "unixodbc" package from
[01:04] <acersales> hi is there any command to see my gateway address ?
[01:04] <OmegaNine> "compiz.real: No composite extension"  AHA!  No whats that mean?  LOL
[01:04] <Bogaurd> lupine_85: lrm 315M 18M 297M 6% /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/volatile
[01:04] <lupine_85> acersales: "ip route show!
[01:04] <fyrestrtr> acersales: route
[01:04] <RePete> iwconfig?
[01:05] <lupine_85> s/!/"/
[01:05] <lupine_85> Bogaurd: I have that also
[01:05] <fyrestrtr> OmegaNine: check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xgl and compiz.net -- its a common problem.
[01:05] <Zeeshan> where should i place it in ubuntu
[01:05] <Bogaurd> hmm
[01:05] <Zeeshan> where can i get "unixodbc" package from, where should i place it in ubuntu
[01:05] <Bogaurd> i didnt have them a while ago, i'm pretty sure...
[01:05] <Zeeshan> so that I could install java
[01:05] <lupine_85> bogaurd: probably a kernel update
[01:05] <acersales> thanks fyrestrtr lupine_85
[01:05] <fyrestrtr> Zeeshan: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get install unixodbc
[01:06] <Bogaurd> thank lupine_85 :)
[01:06] <Bogaurd> nothing to worry about in that case?
[01:06] <lupine_85> nothing to worry about :)
[01:06] <lupine_85> (just one more thing to break...)
[01:07] <lupine_85>  gwz: if you're still around, there's also a graphical utility for ralink cards (the GNOME/KDE ones won't work). Google for rutilt
[01:08] <Anndy> need help
[01:08] <Anndy> mobile phone application in cpp on linux plateform
[01:09] <Relisxc> Is ubuntu REALLY slow to start up, or is that just the live cd? it took like 40 seconds..
[01:09] <lupine_85> Anndy: run? Or develop? (and by cpp do you mean "c++ source file" )?
[01:09] <lupine_85> Relisxc: the live-CD is significantly slower to boot
[01:09] <Anndy> develop
[01:10] <lupine_85> Anndy: You'll need the SDK from the phone manufacturer...
[01:10] <Relisxc> lupine_85: define signifigant
[01:10] <lupine_85> 15-20 seconds
[01:10] <Relisxc> lupine_85: define significant*
[01:10] <Relisxc> ok
[01:10] <lupine_85> I boot in 25 from grub
[01:11] <OmegaNine> fyrestrtr, Do you know the cause of the error?  The first 15 or so google hits dont give any answers
[01:11] <SanketMedhi> lupine_85:how?
[01:11] <Anndy> thankz
[01:11] <lupine_85> SanketMedhi: how what?
[01:11] <fyrestrtr> OmegaNine: what video card are you using?
[01:12] <Anndy> but my problem is still same....how do i find these details
[01:12] <SanketMedhi> lupine_85: how can you boot from grub in 25 secs?
[01:12] <gwz> and one more question: since there are so many problems with wireless nics in linux, why are there not out-of-the-box support for these things? since there is countless documents on this, i think there should be enough manpower, and i guess many of the open source-types could program most anything?
[01:12] <OmegaNine> fyrestrtr, ATI x1400
[01:12] <lupine_85> By paying attention to my system :)
[01:12] <lupine_85> gwz: rt2500 is supported in Ubuntu
[01:12] <lupine_85> kernel module is included
[01:12] <fyrestrtr> gwz: not all wireless nics have problems. The one in my laptop, for example, works flawlessly.
[01:12] <mtholdenss> whats a good app for midi keyboard recording, sound editing, sound recording, practically a sound studio app that does everything
[01:12] <lupine_85> I am working on a program that installls wireless drivers for people, though
[01:12] <lupine_85> (since it's such a problem)
[01:13] <gwz> but it certainly is not working on mine:(    ( :) )
[01:13] <lupine_85> gwz: did you get my messages above?
[01:13] <gwz> but my main point is, on windows, it works flawlessly, so why doesnt it on linux?
[01:13] <lupine_85> I'm running an rt2570, and I've got several friends with rt2500
[01:13] <fyrestrtr> OmegaNine: are you using the binary ati drivers?
[01:13] <OmegaNine> From the ATI site, yes
[01:13] <lupine_85> 'cos linux doesn't get as much interest from the big boys as windows does ;)
[01:13] <OmegaNine> fyrestrtr, From the ATI site, yes
[01:14] <Anndy> lupine_85: is there any place where i can find ans for my Q
[01:14] <fyrestrtr> gwz: because companies don't release specifications to the public for other people to write drivers for the hardware.
[01:14] <fyrestrtr> OmegaNine: and you have direct rendering running fine?
[01:14] <lupine_85> ralink drivers are one of the best native linux drivers
[01:14] <extern> I can't empty the trach can. When I press "empty trash", it does nothing
[01:14] <lupine_85> (ralink released GPL drivers)
[01:14] <ShoeUnited> Hi ^_^
[01:14] <extern> and it has 13 items in it
[01:14] <lupine_85> gwz: once you get the right config utility, it's easy as pie
[01:14] <OmegaNine> fyrestrtr, I think so, but im not sure how to check it.
[01:14] <lupine_85> Anndy: Try the phone manufacturer
[01:15] <lupine_85> They should know where to get the SDK from
[01:15] <ShoeUnited> When someone has a minute I do have a question. :)
[01:15] <lupine_85> Most phones use Java, though...
[01:15] <fyrestrtr> OmegaNine: first, disable xgl -- then restart X, login, open a terminal and type fglrxinfo
[01:15] <extern> can someone tell me how to delete trashed items manually ?
[01:16] <OmegaNine> direct rendering: Yes
[01:16] <OmegaNine> fyrestrtr, Yes, its running
[01:16] <PingunZ> what package do I need to install with this error : checking for XML::Simple... configure: error: XML::Simple perl module is required for icon-naming-utils
[01:18] <spazz> How do I find out if my laptop can boot from USB drive?
[01:18] <RePete> @spazz - What laptop do you have?
[01:18] <fyrestrtr> OmegaNine: what is the error you get?
[01:18] <spazz> Sony Vaio GRX570.
[01:18] <ShoeUnited> Ok, I wrestled with linux.  It would go through the install, and then when I restarted without disk, it would say "missing operating system", I unplugged the secondary drive that has ntfs but no os on it.  And now it works.  All of a sudden grub finally popped up and ubuntu started.  If I plug in the secondary, will I run into the same wall again?
[01:18] <spazz> I tried Googling it, but I couldn't find anything.
[01:18] <fyrestrtr> spazz: usually, its an option in the bios in the 'boot device' or 'boot order' section (or something like that).
[01:19] <spazz> I am trying to see if I can put Damn Small Linux, or another Distro onto a USB drive.
[01:19] <RePete> LOL. I was just about to try. You've googled "Sony Vaio GRX570 specifications", or found the Sony specs page for the machine?
[01:19] <spazz> It takes FOREVER for this Live CD to boot up, and I am trying to look some things up... before I have to reboot and loose everything.
[01:19] <spazz> So ... was trying to find a website that told me whether or not my laptop can boot from USB - I just can't seem to search for it good.
[01:19] <fyrestrtr> OmegaNine: I think your problem is mentioned in the compiz.net forums.
[01:20] <OmegaNine> fyrestrtr, Umm, can I paste it to you in a MSG, its like 5 lines
[01:20] <fyrestrtr> pastebin it ON
[01:20] <OmegaNine> fyrestrtr, I looked but I swear I cant find it
[01:20] <fyrestrtr> pastebin the error, let me have a look :)
[01:20] <ShoeUnited> spazz: You may want to check your bios if it has "boot from removeable drive"
[01:20] <lupine_85> PingunZ: apt-cache search perl |grep xml suggests libxml-simpleobject-perl
[01:20] <OmegaNine> fyrestrtr, Its in a MSG
[01:20] <lupine_85> ...among others
[01:21] <spazz> ShoeUnited:  I am trying to find a specifications page for my laptop. To see if it has that functionality.
[01:21] <fyrestrtr> MSG? you packed it in some chinese noodle flavor packets?
[01:21] <spazz> My laptop doesn't seem too well documented though.
[01:21] <fyrestrtr> spazz: have you check the LaptopTestingTeam pages on the wiki?
[01:21] <ShoeUnited> spazz: OIC well, you can alway restart and check your BIOS ^_^
[01:21] <OmegaNine> fyrestrtr, Hope your not alergic :P
[01:21] <Teh_wrk1n|Dog> Hi Im having compiler issues under ubuntu. when i try and ./configure it gives me and error saying cant find libtcl.so and tcl is installed on the system but that specific file cannot be found newhere?
[01:22] <fyrestrtr> I didn't get any message from you, probably because your nick is not registered. Use the pastebin service.
[01:22] <Teh_wrk1n|Dog> can neone help?
[01:22] <spazz> Yea. But restarting takes SOO long. Computer is slow lol.
[01:22] <fyrestrtr> Teh_wrk1n|Dog: install the -dev package for tcl.
[01:22] <RePete> @spazz. As others have said, chedk for "removable device" in your boot order. I can't see a machine that new NOT botting from a removeable device. All newish IBM or Dell machines I've worked with as of late do.
[01:22] <RePete> *booting
[01:23] <spazz> Was I was thinking ... its like 6 years old though.
[01:23] <spazz> Maybe 5..
[01:23] <RePete> With a P4-M?
[01:24] <PingunZ> I still have 50 packages or so left ... Any other suggests : error: XML::Simple perl module is required for icon-naming-utils
[01:25] <lupine_85> PingunZ: your guess is as good as mine. libxml-libxml-common-perl maybe?
[01:25] <OmegaNine> fyrestrtr, forgot to ID
[01:25] <dodijk> Hi! I wonder if someone can help me with an Xgl related issue. When starting gdm using the Xgl server I see nothing but the outline and background of the login screen. This used to work fine and works fine with the regular Xorg server. After logging in the problem is still there. I see only a couple of rectangular shapes like the keyring popping up. Thanks!
[01:26] <tar_> The Ubuntu installer set up a mount point in /media for one of my NTFS partitions, but not the other. How can I duplicate what it did for the second partition now that Ubuntu is installed?
[01:26] <PingunZ> lupine_85: Same error
[01:26] <lupine_85> all I can suggest is either to keep trying, or google for the error message
[01:26] <lupine_85> someone else might have had the same problem, and Google knows all ;)
[01:27] <ShoeUnited> Ok, I wrestled with linux.  It would go through the install, and then when I restarted without disk, it would say "missing operating system", I unplugged the secondary drive that has ntfs but no os on it.  And now it works.  All of a sudden grub finally popped up and ubuntu started.  If I plug in the secondary, will I run into the same wall again?
[01:28] <Justin_> lupine_85, Google has no idea where I hide my snacks :)
[01:28] <lupine_85> ShoeUnited: was the secondary drive, the primary boot? If it's not gettting to GRUB at all, then it's a BIOS setting...
[01:28] <Justin_> Go ahead, I dare you :))
[01:28] <lupine_85> Justin_ that's because you've never told anybody
[01:28] <lupine_85> it being confidential information and all...
[01:29] <Teh_wrk1n|Dog> fyrestrtr: package name please :) for dev tcl
[01:29] <Justin_> exactly, and therefore google only knows what it is told - and since no one knows everything - it is impossible that google does.
[01:29] <lupine_85> !libtcl-dev
[01:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libtcl-dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:29] <ShoeUnited> Well, I set both to CS on the jumpers, so maybe bios is 'picking' the wrong one as primary?
[01:29] <lupine_85> ah, but *I* know everything...
[01:29] <lupine_85> ...I just have a bad memory
[01:29] <Justin_> Plus a computer that knows "everything" would be dangerous, very dangerous.
[01:29] <lupine_85> ShoeUnited: possibly. Try setting your boot order manually
[01:29] <ShoeUnited> Seeing as the secondary drive is about 100 gb bigger?
[01:29] <lupine_85> Justin_: depending on who owned it
[01:29] <gnomefreak> lupine_85: i think its libtcl<some number>-dev
[01:30] <pritisd> hi all
[01:30] <Justin_> One who knows all has no master.
[01:30] <pritisd> i have a query
[01:30] <Justin_> Anyways, back to ubuntu :P
[01:30] <ShoeUnited> I'll give that a shot, ty lupine_85.  ^_^
[01:30] <pritisd> anybody knows how to make entry of ubuntu partition in LILO?
[01:30] <lupine_85> tcl8.0-dev
[01:30] <lupine_85> etc
[01:31] <lupine_85> apt-cache search <keyword1> [|grep <keyword2>]  is my friend :)
[01:31] <lupine_85> speaking of friends, I'm off now
[01:31] <lupine_85> t'ra
[01:31] <PingunZ> lupine_85: I figured it out
[01:32] <lupine_85_lalala> cool
[01:32] <PingunZ> lupine_85_lalala: just apt-cache search xml perl |grep simple
[01:32] <OmegaNine> Should ATI be using "vesa" drivers AND "fglrx" drivers?
[01:33] <Ky0n0> hi! someone can help me?? i have to configure my sound while im playing enemy territory and talking with my friends in teamspeak
[01:33] <OmegaNine> Ky0n0, You want to do what?
[01:33] <Ky0n0> configure sound
[01:34] <OmegaNine> What sound card do you have?
[01:34] <Ky0n0> wait
[01:34] <OmegaNine> waiting...
[01:34] <Teh_wrk1n|Dog> fyrestrtr: there is no libtcl<number>-dev
[01:34] <RePete> lol
[01:35] <Ky0n0> c-Media pcicmi8738-mc6
[01:35] <OmegaNine> ...Your sound card is PCIMCIA??
[01:36] <Teh_wrk1n|Dog> fyrestrtr: there is no libtcl<number>-dev
[01:37] <oskude> Teh_wrk1n|Dog: are you looking for this "tcl8.4-dev" ?
[01:37] <Teh_wrk1n|Dog> oskude: libtcl.so
[01:37] <CyberMad> after install, in terminal.. how to login as root, i type su but i don't know the password
[01:37] <PingunZ> hmm .. configure: error: ImageMagick is required to build tango-icon-theme
[01:38] <Ky0n0> OmegaNine, yes
[01:38] <Ky0n0> C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738
[01:38] <RePete> @cybermad - try sudo and use your password
[01:38] <ShoeUnited> Oh, one other thing, when I install the updates, I won't have to worry about messing with that sticky patch you guys had right?
[01:38] <OmegaNine> Thats weird, never heard of them.  Give me a min with google.
[01:39] <phenol> i dont know my su password either
[01:39] <Teh_wrk1n|Dog> oskude: whenever i try and compile a eggdropbot it gives me an error that it cannot find libtcl.so but tcl8.4 is installed yet i myself cannot find this file
[01:39] <oskude> Teh_wrk1n|Dog: and what wants it ? i got /usr/lib/libtcl8.4.so (should come with tcl8.4, not dev)
[01:39] <CyberMad> RePete so, can not login as root in terminal? like in debian..
[01:40] <oskude> Teh_wrk1n|Dog: do you have /usr/lib/libtcl8.4.so ?
[01:40] <Teh_wrk1n|Dog> i'll check
[01:40] <RePete> @cyber - Sorry. Been so long since I've used IRC I can't remeber how to reply to just one person. No, root is kinda disabled in ubuntu. you doing things with the intial super user account. sudo -i will keep the cli running with su privs.
[01:41] <ShoeUnited> <--- Old windows user.. lol  Is there a program similar to ZoneAlarm for ubuntu *nix enviroments?
[01:41] <bhrobinson> RePete, is it bad then to reset your root password?
[01:41] <bjames> I've installed Ubuntu on a dual boot system and in doing so it's picked up the fact that there is an MBR reference to an operating system on a drive that I have remove the OS from - I've edited the /boot/grub/menu.lst file so it boot cleanly, but I'd like to know how I can clear the MBRs of the disk I have that no longer have an OS on?
[01:42] <ShoeUnited> RePete: /msg username message
[01:42] <ShoeUnited> RePete: Or double click on their name for a private chat window ^_^
[01:42] <RePete> @bhrobinson - From what I've read in the forums, it is not recommended to reenable or do anything with the root acount.
[01:42] <oskude> ShoeUnited: normally you dont need a "personal firewall" as theres no programs listening on the ports... (i never use personal firewalls so dunno if theres like that for linux)
[01:43] <Teh_wrk1n|Dog> oskude: I have it too libtcl8.4.so.O
[01:43] <bjames> anyone have a clue about grub?
[01:43] <ShoeUnited> oskude: Well, I was interested in torrent and emule style programs.  I kinda like the whole privacy.  that and h@kers on WoW
[01:43] <bjames> or MBR clearing in general?
[01:43] <oskude> Teh_wrk1n|Dog: hmm, then you better complaint at eggdrop that their configure sucks ;)
[01:44] <spazz> lol ... for anyone that remembers what I was trying to do before ... look what I Found