[15:02] <speaker1234>
[15:02] <speaker1234> oops
[15:03] <Guest40989> Can someone help me with generating an SSL certificate? I am presenting an error. // Ubuntu Server 14.04 LTS
[15:04] <Guest40989><PHONE_NUMBER>20064:error:04075070:rsa routines:RSA_sign:digest too big for rsa key:rsa_sign.c:127:
[15:04] <Guest40989><PHONE_NUMBER>20064:error:04075070:rsa routines:RSA_sign:digest too big for rsa key:rsa_si
[15:08] <JHOSMAN_> Can someone help me with generating an SSL certificate? I am presenting an error.
[15:09] <JHOSMAN_> ~$ openssl req -new -key server.key -out server.csr
[15:09] <JHOSMAN_><PHONE_NUMBER>20064:error:04075070:rsa routines:RSA_sign:digest too big for rsa key:rsa_sign.c:127:
[15:09] <Pici> JHOSMAN_: don't use 512-bit RSA key.
[15:10] <juanjo> alguien quye hables español???
[15:10] <Pici> !es | juanjo
[15:10] <JHOSMAN_> juanjo: que necesitas?
[15:11] <juanjo> bajar un programa, se que ya biene instalado un programa como el torrent para bajar cosas de int pero no lo encuentro
[15:11] <JHOSMAN_> Pici: i use 256 bits
[15:11] <Pici> JHOSMAN_: thats way too little. You need at least 1024 or more.
[15:11] <KGM70> !es | juanjo
[15:12] <JHOSMAN_>  Pici  156  openssl  genrsa -out server.key 256
[15:13] <JHOSMAN_> Pici: ok a moment please :)
[15:15] <harry> $ sudo sh java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh  Extracting the installer archive... java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh: 214: java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh: /usr/bin/jar: Permission denied Extracting the installer runtime... java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh: 242: java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh: /usr/bin/jar: Permission denied Extracting the installer resources... java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh: 244: java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh: /usr/bin
[15:15] <harry> getting this error while installing oracle jdk JavaEE
[15:16] <harry> $ sudo sh java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh  Extracting the installer archive... java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh: 214: java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh: /usr/bin/jar: Permission denied Extracting the installer runtime... java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh: 242: java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh: /usr/bin/jar: Permission denied Extracting the installer resources... java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh: 244: java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh: /usr/bin
[15:16] <JHOSMAN_> juanjo: ?
[15:16] <Beldar> harry, Dis you look at the bot's java link?
[15:16] <Beldar> Did*
[15:16] <harry> yes
[15:16] <harry> but it was for .tar
[15:16] <Beldar> harry, It gives you an install.
[15:17] <harry> tried that
[15:17] <JHOSMAN_> Pici: Thanks!
[15:17] <harry> Beldar: no luck :(
[15:17] <Beldar> harry, what happened when you tried, the tar is failing as well.
[15:18] <harry> actually i am installing JavaEE jdk and on oracle  site there is onlly .sh file for that not tar
[15:19] <jhutchins> harry: The problem is that sudo only works for the initial command.  Commands launched by the script do not have root permission.
[15:19] <Beldar> harry, Could have sworn it was sdk before.
[15:19] <jhutchins> harry: You need to open a shell as root to run the script.  There are several ways to do so.
[15:20] <harry> so how can i login as root, i am new to linux
[15:20] <Rory> !sudo | harry
[15:21] <jhutchins> harry: Other people may object, but I just do sudo bash.
[15:21] <cfhowlett> harry|root|
[15:22] <Beldar> harry, sudo -i for a root terminal.
[15:22] <harry> k
[15:23] <Beldar> harry, "Root Login" is a trigger here we don't do that unless that is the only option, just a syntax error.
[15:24] <Beldar> language syntax that is
[15:25] <harry> same error even wint root
[15:25] <harry> sh java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh Extracting the installer archive... java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh: 214: java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh: /usr/bin/jar: Permission denied Extracting the installer runtime... java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh: 242: java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh: /usr/bin/jar: Permission denied Extracting the installer resources... java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh: 244: java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh: /usr/bin/jar: Pe
[15:25] <juanjo> necesito bajar un programa "vivard" se que hay un programa que ya trae instalado linux torrent, como hago para bajarlo de hay??
[15:25] <cfhowlett> harry sudo sh java...yada yada yada
[15:25] <cfhowlett> !es|juanjo
[15:25] <Beldar> harry, Pastebin thew whole terminal info.
[15:26] <harry>  sh java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh Extracting the installer archive... java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh: 214: java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh: /usr/bin/jar: Permission denied Extracting the installer runtime... java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh: 242: java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh: /usr/bin/jar: Permission denied Extracting the installer resources... java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh: 244: java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh: /usr/bin/jar: P
[15:26] <sysop3> how can I tell which script is sending out emails?
[15:26] <Beldar> sysop3, Context?
[15:27] <harry> Beldar: did u see it
[15:27] <speaker1234> sysop3: netstat -natp
[15:27] <sysop3> beldar ok I have some acienct automated process that is sending emails every few minutes.
[15:27] <speaker1234> look for the program that is connected to :25
[15:27] <sysop3> ok speaker will try that.
[15:27] <sysop3> thanks
[15:27] <Beldar> harry, I meaqn when you run the commands you are and get info in the terminal copy and paste all of it to a pastebin.
[15:28] <Beldar> !pastebin | harry
[15:29] <harry> ubotta: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7506023/
[15:30] <Beldar> harry, Just a guess but no cd?
[15:31] <harry> did no get it
[15:31] <harry> ????
[15:31] <Beldar> harry, Anyway, that might be more helpful to the others looking.
[15:31] <Brandano> Thanks Beldar, reinstalling and re-configuring grub seems to have worked just fine without me messing about with fstab
[15:31] <analog> anyone use -DOSREL=blah in their automount configuration on ubuntu?
[15:32] <analog> mine seems to be ignoring the -D options complely
[15:32] <Beldar> Brandano, Cool, yeah that fstab info was a bit confusing as is without knowing the partition setup, at least for me.
[15:32]  * Brandano had to recover broken grub installs ages ago with the chroot "trick"
[15:32] <harry> beldar: what next?
[15:32] <analog> although it does see it: /usr/sbin/automount -DOSREL=2.6
[15:32] <Brandano> Beldar: well, I had /boot mapped to an ext2 partition identified by UUID, but it did match sda
[15:33] <Beldar> harry, Not an area I can give you an exacting answer, the other two helpers know this better, point that url at them, ubottu is a bot, it is not sentient. ;)
[15:33]  * JesseH wondering why he has choppy framerate playing an opengl game
[15:34] <Brandano> But at least it's not downright idiotic as some people :)
[15:34] <Beldar> Brandano, Really a boot partition, I thought that went out with the charleston. ;)
[15:34] <harry> ubottu cfhowlett : http://paste.ubuntu.com/7506023/
[15:34] <Brandano> Don't know why. But there's good reasons for it, for broken bios support of large drives, for examlpe
[15:35] <Brandano> in this case drives are fairly small, but there's a fakeraid controller in teh way
[15:35] <harry> common guys, don't embarrass me
[15:35] <Beldar> Brandano, True old enough setups will only read so far on a HD.
[15:35] <Brandano> on my home machine I have several different partitions for different parts of the filesystem to make good use of an SSD
[15:35] <cfhowlett> harry get out of root.  run the command with sudo
[15:36] <Brandano> cfhowlett: just make sure you have some sort of root prompt if you are installing bind9...
[15:37] <xeonid> Brandano: i've one question , is there any way to mount /home and /usr/ on one partition ?
[15:37] <Brandano> if the machine can't resolve its own name sudo breaks. In a nasty way
[15:37] <Beldar> harry, no embarrassment here, we all have been there at some point. ;)
[15:37] <harry> cfhowlett: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7506059/
[15:37] <Brandano> xeonid: both on one partition?
[15:38] <Brandano> xeonid: but separated from other parts of the filesystem?
[15:38] <xeonid> Brandano: yep, because i want to have this directories on larger partition
[15:38] <cfhowlett> harry download the package again and hashsum check to verify integrity
[15:38] <xeonid> Brandano: yep
[15:38] <Brandano> Well, you can have each on its own partition, but not two paths on the same level on the same partition
[15:38] <Brandano> you can play with symlinks, though
[15:38] <TJ-> Brandano: Or use btrfs with subvolumes
[15:38] <xeonid> Brandano: thanks ,
[15:39] <Brandano> though that might cause trouble in some cases
[15:39] <harry> downloaded two times, same result
[15:39] <harry> its ubuntu 14.04 BTW
[15:39] <cfhowlett> harry so you did NOT verify package integrity?
[15:39] <Brandano> symlinking might cause trouble. btrfs I have to look into
[15:39] <harry> no
[15:39] <cfhowlett> harry ...
[15:39] <harry> how to do that
[15:40] <cfhowlett> harry go to the download page.  somewhere should be SHA/HASHSUM/MD5SUM
[15:41] <Brandano> harry: generate a checksum and compare it to the one on the download page.
[15:41] <ctmjr> harry:sudo chmod +x java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh then  sudo ./java_ee_sdk-7-jdk7-linux-x64.sh
[15:42] <Brandano> btrfs apparently is still marked as experimental. Probably perfectly fine to use on an home desktop, though
[15:43] <TJ-> harry: The issue is "Permission denied", and the current working directory is "/media/harish/Educational". Directories under "/media/$USER" are usually mount-points for some external device. If that device is read-only, or is mounted read-only, then "Permission denied" when trying to extract and create files from an archive would be expected
[15:43] <harry> TJ: may be, where should i move it
[15:44] <Brandano> xeonid: I think the simplest option for you would be to boot on a live distro, shift the files about and replace the paths with symlinks. it's an ugly hack that will probably work
[15:44] <harry> TJ: but once i ran command using root,
[15:45] <Brandano> xeonid: the proper way would be to have separate partitions for them, and eventually resize them if the need arises
[15:45] <TJ-> harry: You'd best read the installer instructions for that
[15:46] <Brandano> This also allows you to choose a filesystem according to the task
[15:46] <Joel> do init scripts log somewhere? I see a log_daemon_msg being called
[15:47] <Brandano> Joel: syslog?
[15:47] <Brandano> I think it depends on who wrote the script
[15:47] <walrus_1> ls
[15:47] <harry> missing windows here
[15:48]  * Brandano misses windows so much that he prefers to run irssi in a puttyterminal when using windows 7
[15:49] <boy_wanders> hello, I'm having a sound problem in Ubuntu 14.04
[15:49] <Beldar> !sound | boy_wanders
[15:51] <killer> Hey , I m trying to format a usb and it fails to do so in gparted and disk utility and the error it gives  is daemon is inhibited .
[15:51] <boy_wanders> ah thanks Beldar, turns out the headset I'm using stops emmitting sound at like 20% max volume
[15:51] <speaker1234> this is ndirectly ubuntu.  Does sshd support putting public keys for all the accounts in one directory?
[15:51] <speaker1234> Specifically the public keys
[15:52] <boy_wanders> !players
[15:53] <xtimus> hi
[15:53] <Brandano> oh, talking about sound, is there some component for xubuntu-desktop that will handle multimedia HID inputs? like the volume tumbler from my keyboard and headphones?
[15:53] <Beldar> killer, Is it mounted?
[15:54] <terraformer_> hey guys, anybody has experience with installing openvpn and/or cyberghost vpn on linux?
[15:54] <killer> Beldar: No it is n't mounted
[15:55] <honganh> anyone help me please
[15:55] <honganh> i can not empty trash
[15:55] <Beldar> honganh, THis a root trash?
[15:55] <jhutchins> terraformer_: Lots of people use VPN on linux, what's your actual question?
[15:55] <honganh> no, local trash
[15:56] <honganh> at ~/.local/share/Trash
[15:56] <cpined> hello..world cup coming up...any ideas how to get Hauppauge 850 to work on ubuntu?
[15:56] <jhutchins> honganh: Which desktop?  What release?
[15:56] <honganh> i using ubuntu 14.04
[15:56] <Brandano> terraformer_: actually, I got OpenVPN installed on OpenWRT, which is in itself rather cool, but probably not what you need
[15:57] <honganh> natilus
[15:57] <terraformer_> jhutchins, I don't know how to install it - says in network manager or what's its name :), that I have only PPTP, i dont have OpenVPN, and cyberghost requires OpenVPN
[15:58] <terraformer_> jhutchins, on the Ubuntu support there is the terminal command with other things to do after for setting a bridge and so on, I don't know if I need to do that
[15:58] <Brandano> terraformer_: if you only need to have it installed rather than actually configured to do something useful you can run an "apt-cache search openvpn" and see what package provides it
[15:58] <TJ-> terraformer_: first you'd need to install the networkmanager-openvpn package
[15:59] <brunim> Hello guys, sorry to interrupt. I hope you don't mind me asking some help with dual booting, specifically making windows 8 boot after I've installed ubuntu 14.04. I've got the paste and everything.  I'm sorry if this is not how these things are done, first time here.
[15:59] <TJ-> terraformer_: "sudo apt-get install network-manager-openvpn-gnome" will pull in the GUI applet and the core dependencies necessary
[16:00] <Beldar> brunim, paste of?
[16:00] <brunim> My boot repair
[16:00] <Beldar> brunim, Lets see that. ;)
[16:00] <terraformer_> TJ-, doing that right now..
[16:00] <brunim> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7506042/
[16:01] <brunim> I hope it's helpful?
[16:02] <jhutchins> brunim: What's the actual problem?
[16:02] <Brandano> probably missing grub
[16:02] <brunim> jhutchins: It won't let me boot into windows
[16:02] <Brandano> oh, misconfigured grub, then
[16:02] <brunim> I can log into ubuntu just fine
[16:02] <brunim> In fact, I'm here :D
[16:03] <brunim> But I'd like if I could keep my windows for just a bit longer xD
[16:03] <terraformer_> TJ-, is only apt-get install network-manager-openvpn sufficient to create a OpenVPN connection type or I have to install something else?
[16:03] <Brandano> heh, I don't know much about Windows8. I remember that in the past you had to repair and resize the MBR
[16:04] <brunim> Brandano, it is misconfigured yeah. Last time I did this the Bootrepair fixed it ,not   sure why it didn't work.
[16:04] <TJ-> brunim: Brandano nothing to do with grub; this is an EFI system... the firmware boots each OS directly
[16:04] <Brandano> but so far I never had to fight with stuff like UEFI
[16:04] <JHOSMAN_> Pici:  You know as add the certificate SSL at Alfresco?
[16:04] <JHOSMAN_> (service Tomcat)
[16:04] <brunim> TJ- yes, it's an EFI system
[16:04] <TJ-> brunim: what, precisely, happens when you try to start in Windows. Are you allowing the firmware to choose its default boot option and it starts Ubuntu, or something else?
[16:05] <brunim> TJ- When I enter grub, it lets me choose Windows Boot Manager, but when I select it... it does nothing.
[16:06] <brunim> TJ- It's weird, doesn't even get off GRUB. Just stands there staring at me, until I select Ubuntu
[16:06] <TJ-> brunim: On EFI, to start Windows, you shouldn't be using GRUB... use the EFI boot manager, that's the correct place
[16:06] <jhutchins> !efi
[16:06] <bipul>  I want to swap an external flash disc in ubuntu.
[16:07] <TJ-> brunim: on most EFI system's there's a key-combo you can press at boot-time to bring up the manual boot menu, where you can select all the boot options written by OS installers, plus removable devices discovered by the firmware
[16:08] <brunim> TJ-, ubottu, last time I could choose on the grub menu which system I wanted to boot. I was expecting this time to be similar
[16:08] <Beldar> brunim, ubottu is the bot
[16:08] <brunim> Oh.
[16:08] <brunim> XD
[16:10] <brunim> Thanks guys, I'll try rebooting and pressing the boot key.
[16:10] <Beldar> brunim, I would copy and paste that script to this thread, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10871917#post10871917
[16:11] <brunim> Thanks you, I will do just that
[16:11] <Beldar> brunim, Best help around on this area there, and quick responses, they actually read the script. ;)
[16:11] <Beldar> no guessing
[16:16] <winterpk> Can anyone suggest a good Ubuntu web server virus scanner?  My webserver seems to have become compromised...
[16:17] <jhutchins> winterpk: Unlikely to be a virus.
[16:17] <TJ-> winterpk: do you mean you suspect your server is hosting malware?
[16:19] <winterpk> I beleive that one of my wordpress sites has a malitious php script. Do you have any suggestions on how to identify the violating script?
[16:20] <Beldar> winterpk, Load the backup off line change the security access and call it a day.
[16:20] <Brandano> winterpk: if you know the nature of the script you can run a plaintext search for it
[16:21] <winterpk> First suggestion won't work
[16:21] <winterpk> Php is run by the apache user, I can't lock out apache from my websites
[16:22] <winterpk> PLain text search won't work because its likely an encoded string
[16:22] <Brandano> ut locking out Apache from the rest of the OS might be a good idea, especially when serving Wordpress
[16:22] <jhutchins> winterpk: Clean install or restored backup prior to infection, install tripwire to catch future problems.
[16:22] <winterpk> Well apache is locked out from teh rest of the OS.  But the malitious script is in an apache folder
[16:23] <winterpk> what is tripwire?
[16:23] <jhutchins> winterpk: Tripwire detects changes in system files.
[16:24] <Brandano> I think there's no system files affected, just web content
[16:24] <winterpk> Thats a good idea.  I'm not really sure rolling back to pre infection is possible though.
[16:24] <winterpk> Yeah no system files get changed, just files in my webroot.
[16:24] <Brandano> winterpk: do you suspect that the DB content is compromised too?
[16:25] <winterpk> And since php is in there, it can do a lot
[16:25] <winterpk> No, I think my DB is ok
[16:25] <Brandano> then reinstall only wordpress and its plugins and keep the same DB
[16:25] <Brandano> uploaded files might be more bothersome
[16:26] <winterpk> well uploaded files won't be php files and they don't have executable
[16:26] <Brandano> Better test it on another machine first
[16:27] <winterpk> My server is a multi wordpress environment as well as some other platforms.  So it could have spread to other wordpress sites. So you guys don't know of any VS program that could detect mailitous code in PHP scripts?
[16:27] <Brandano> Since all content is dynamic, a fersh WP ibnstall should behave as the old, as long as settings are the same
[16:28] <winterpk> I actually did find a bad plugin called timthumb in on of our WP sites.  I've since cleaned it, but the symptoms still remain.
[16:28] <Moony22> Hey
[16:29] <Moony22> How can I get that plymouth theme?
[16:29] <Moony22> Currently just a text theme is shown
[16:29] <Brandano> winterpk: there's some links from wordpress.org for malware detection plugins. Never had to deal twith this sort of situation, YMMV.
[16:30] <winterpk> Oh I did not know about those.  I'll look into them asap. Thanks!
[16:30] <Brandano> From what I can see Wordpress seems a security liability. I believo some run each instance in a separate chroot just because of that
[16:30] <winterpk> Thats a really good idea
[16:30] <winterpk> Wordpress is definitely a liability
[16:30] <makara> hi. how do I shutdown 14.04?
[16:30] <makara> Moony22, #wordpress
[16:31] <Moony22> makara: what?
[16:31] <Beldar> makara, Since you can't what is the issue causing you to ask, this a X or just cli setup?
[16:31] <Moony22> makara: I mean, the plymouth boot
[16:31] <Moony22> for ubuntu
[16:32] <raggg> does anyone here keep their config files under version control? is there an easy way to do it like keep them all in one dir and use links?
[16:32] <Pici> raggg: Have you looked at etckeeper?
[16:32] <y4h0> ls
[16:32] <y4h0> hi all
[16:33] <Beldar> raggg, Depends on the configs, but there is .config in home, mixing all together makes no sense.
[16:33] <makara> Beldar, I just installed standard 14.04 desktop on my Lenovo laptop and now it hangs on shutdown both from unity and "sudo shutdown now" / "sudo shutdown -P now" / "sudo poweroff"
[16:33] <raggg> Pici: no, i will look it up, presumably is can handle the files in my home dir too?
[16:33] <Pici> raggg: I'm not sure.
[16:33] <makara> there is no "wake on LAN" option in my BIOS like I've seen mentioned as a possible cause
[16:34] <raggg> Beldar: but there is also .bashrc, .emacs etc etc all over the place... was just wondering if anyone else had a nice solution
[16:34] <makara> it's driving me crazy. It won't suspend either
[16:34] <Beldar> makara, Strange, not sure myself, just wanted to see more details for help in general. ;)
[16:36] <Brandano> makara: probably power management issues
[16:37] <Brandano> suspend is always flaky
[16:38] <Brandano> And messing with power management is a good way to break an install
[16:38] <NikesOnMyFeet> hello all :)
[16:38] <Brandano> makara: does it behave the same if booted on a live distro?
[16:39] <Brandano> At least that would give you a safe way to mess about
[16:39] <alazare619> i have a problem where only 1 user can read/write to a cifs share is there a way to force a fstab to allow any user of a group to be able to RWX from a cifs share?
[16:41] <makara> Brandano, thanks but i wouldn't go any further than typing in a custom command. This is just something Canonical should fix pronto if they want to be considered a viable desktop alternative
[16:41]  * Brandano has no say in what Canonical should or should not do since he does not work for them
[16:43] <raggg> makara what lenovo model? I have hibernate and suspend both working on lenovo thinkpad here...
[16:44] <makara> Brandano, B570
[16:45] <raggg> also have you tried 'sudo shutdown -t secs now -h'
[16:46] <Moony22> how can I get hwinfo?
[16:46] <Moony22> or a similar tool that shows me supported res's
[16:47] <Iamalinuxnoob> YO  I COULD USE SOME HELP BECAUSE I AM A LINUX KLUTZ
[16:47] <OerHeks> Moony22, lshw / lspci / lsusb / lscpu
[16:47] <SchrodingersScat> Iamalinuxnoob: A benefit of irc is that we almost can't help but see your message, you can just ask your question.
[16:48] <Moony22> OerHeks: What command could I use as an alternative to hwinfo -framebuffer
[16:48] <Moony22> hwinfo --framebuffer*
[16:48] <Brandano> makara: can't find it here: www.ubuntu.com/certification/make/Lenovo/
[16:49] <Brandano> Iamalinuxnoob: it's the button on the left, right above the one with the arrow
[16:49] <lmat> I just installed Ubuntu 14.04. I see an application on the launcher called "Amazon". How do I get rid of it ? (A link is sufficient ^_^)
[16:50] <bipul> hello I want to make a swap on an external memory. That is Flash disc.If it possible then can i shift my whole RAM work load to my 8 GB pen drive
[16:50] <lmat> dpkg --get-selections | grep -i amazon ; returns nothing.
[16:50] <bipul> I hope my processor will works fine. It does not have any issue when it get interacted with my cheap External memory.
[16:50] <lmat> bipul: wow
[16:50] <Moony22> lmat: right click "unlock from launcher"?
[16:50] <Iamalinuxnoob> Ok SchrodingerScat.  I just feel so impolite just asking like I am a debbie downer or something xD  I have been trying to reinstall and do what I can for a couple weeks in my offtime and I asked for help yesterday and it didnt work but I feel like I screwed it up. I have the issue laid out here
[16:50] <lmat> Moony22: I want to uninstall it...is that possible ?
[16:50] <Moony22> oh
[16:50] <Iamalinuxnoob> https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/reserve-7
[16:50] <Brandano> lmat: Ah, that's the Unity integration with amazon search services, and personally one of the first things I disable. Might not be an appropriate topic for an official ubuntu channel, I suppose
[16:51] <lmat> Brandano: You think it's not appropriate to ask how to disable it here ?
[16:51] <Moony22> lmat: It's not an application, it's just a launcher to the ubuntu web browser directed to amazon website
[16:51] <lmat> Moony22: Okay, that's what I wanted to know ;)
[16:51] <OerHeks> Moony22,  don't know about -framebuffer
[16:51] <Brandano> Moony22: actually, there's a bit more than that, and some serious implications in erlation to privacy. and something for which Canonical has not been roasted nearly enough
[16:51] <lmat> Moony22: So just "unlock" is good enough then...
[16:52] <Iamalinuxnoob> SchrodingerScat I also am having an issue with rtl 8192ce. those are both my net adapters and at this point I am pretty desperate to get it to work since I spent several hours with help yesterday and still didnt get it to work yet D:
[16:52] <lmat> When I click the spinny-looking ubuntu icon and type something, it gives web results and shopping results. How do I disable that ?
[16:52] <Moony22> Brandano: Are you talking about that launcher or the unity dash integration with amazon etc?
[16:52] <lmat> I want to only search for things on my computer. If I want to search for things on the internet, I can handle that through a web browser :)
[16:52] <lmat> oh, I found something... unity-webapps-common  and unity-lens-shopping.
[16:52] <Brandano> Moony22: both, but mainly the integration
[16:53] <Moony22> lmat: Open the "security & privacy" application, then on the search tab there is a way to disable
[16:53] <bipul> lmat, is it possible ?
[16:53] <Brandano> lmat: yep, that's it. http://lifehacker.com/5953180/how-to-remove-amazon-ads-from-ubuntu-1210
[16:53] <Moony22> lmat: you can also uninstall those I guess
[16:53] <lmat> bipul: Sure...
[16:53] <lmat> Moony22: Thanks.
[16:53] <lmat> Brandano: thanks.
[16:53] <Brandano> it is possible, and easy. But it should at the very least be an option deselectable on install, if not just an opt-in rather than opt-out scheme
[16:53] <SchrodingersScat> Iamalinuxnoob: ah, well, if you were following that guide, then you should be able to pastebin any errors or problems you run into
[16:55] <lmat> Where can I get a description of each of these unity lenses ?
[16:55] <lmat> win 5
[16:55] <lmat> doh
[16:56] <Iamalinuxnoob> SchrodingersScat my only problem with that is that I still have the same issue after doing it.  I am on my laptop right now and the issue is with my desktop i took a screenshot of my output of the last checking step hopefully so someone could check it as apparently I am unable to accurately myself.  I will upload it within 5 minutes. I have to transfer it to laptop first
[16:59] <[wilhelm]> Why isn't the rc.local running at boot?
[17:00] <lmat> So um... what does unity-lens-friends do ? Does it search social networking sights, etc?
[17:02] <lmat> Thank goodness! http://askubuntu.com/questions/288958/what-do-the-listed-unity-lenses-do
[17:02] <Moony22> Hello
[17:02] <lmat> Moony22: Welcome back!
[17:02] <Moony22> My monitor is completely ruined :p
[17:02] <Moony22> well, that's a lie
[17:02] <lmat> Moony22: oh, that's sad :(  Too much wayland, not enough X?
[17:02] <Moony22> My resolution is fixed at 1280x1024
[17:03] <Moony22> I don't know how to change it :/
[17:03] <Moony22> I'll give you something, I've been messing around with grub and plymouth resolutions
[17:04] <Iamalinuxnoob_> oops
[17:05] <wjacobsen> hi
[17:06] <letstrythis> !eol
[17:07] <Iamalinuxnoob_> I am back. If someone would be so kind as to check this for me.   http://i.imgur.com/GPjoGBE.png https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/reserve-7
[17:07] <Iamalinuxnoob_> To clarify it is the LAST step I need checked
[17:08] <ranno> hi folks. i have a lenovo thinkpad x1 carbon with internal sd card reader running ubuntu 14.04
[17:08] <Red-XIII> hi guys
[17:08] <ranno> unfortunately the sd card reader does not work. it does not recognize the sd card whatsoever
[17:08] <rp2> does anyone here have experience with Tartini? I have a few questions
[17:09] <Red-XIII> i got no audio on my ASUS S56C with Ubuntu 14.04 from headphones... :(
[17:09] <Moony22> Please can I have assistance with this issue?
[17:09] <jrtappers> Moony22, issue?
[17:10] <Moony22> jrtappers: my screen res is stuck at 1280x1024
[17:10] <jrtappers> Moony22, What monitor do you have?
[17:10] <Moony22> jrtappers: a hp monitor? res 1440x900
[17:10] <Moony22> hp w1907v
[17:10] <Moony22> It was working earlier
[17:11] <jrtappers> Moony22, what changed since then?
[17:11] <jrtappers> And how much earlier
[17:11] <Moony22> like, 15 min ago
[17:11] <Moony22> :p
[17:11] <Moony22> jrtappers: I was messing around with the plymouth theme
[17:11] <Iamalinuxnoob_> SchrodingersScat ---  http://i.imgur.com/GPjoGBE.png https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/reserve-7 just if it is using the "fixed" driver
[17:12] <Moony22> jrtappers: it also made grub very small and black and white
[17:14] <Moony22> does anyone know how i can fix this?
[17:15] <jrtappers> Moony22, can you run the Xorg list thing (Xrandr I think)
[17:16] <Moony22> shall I screenshot the output?
[17:16] <jrtappers> Moony22, pastebin.ubuntu.com
[17:16] <Moony22> jrtappers: when running xrandr
[17:16] <Moony22> http://i.imgur.com/QmhAF5f.png
[17:17] <rp2> messing around with the plymouth theme he stole my heart away
[17:17] <jrtappers> Moony22, What files did you edit?
[17:18] <rp2> btw I have another question: 15 years ago I used to run X at 2000x1500 resulution ... Ubuntu 12.04 doesn't offer that as an option ... how can I add it back? surely graphics cards have advanced since then?
[17:18] <Moony22> jrtappers: /etc/default/grub and I used plymouth-manager and super-boot-manager (gui tools)
[17:19] <jrtappers> Can you see if Xorg.conf has been changed recently?
[17:19] <[wilhelm]> How may cat be used to show the hidden newlines?
[17:20] <Moony22_> how do I do so?
[17:20] <Moony22_> whoops really sorry need to go check something out I'll be back
[17:21] <lmat> [wilhelm]: What's an hidden newline?
[17:22] <lmat> [wilhelm]: If you want to see bytes that don't print well, use hexdump (1)
[17:22] <Iamalinuxnoob_> How do I create a file in linux?
[17:23] <Iamalinuxnoob_> *create a file in root areas
[17:23] <rp2> why do you want to do that?
[17:23] <ciscoftw> can somebody please set me straight regarding java plugin for chrome... java version returns; Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_55-b13) the path for symlink i've added has been '/opt/java/64/jre1.7.0_55/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so'
[17:23] <Seveas> Iamalinuxnoob_: you'll generally want to not do that
[17:23] <Iamalinuxnoob_> rp2 to attempt to fix an error with my wifi adapters.  http://askubuntu.com/questions/414974/realtek-rtl8192ce-wireless-slow-intermittent-access
[17:24] <rp2> aaah
[17:24] <rp2> well, something like 'sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/rtl8192ce.conf' should do the trick
[17:24] <rp2> for 'gedit' substitute your favourite editor
[17:25] <Iamalinuxnoob_> rp2 thanks :D hopefully this works :D
[17:25] <rp2> you need a terminal first so you can type the command
[17:25] <rp2> do you know how to get one?
[17:26] <rp2> there are probably other ways, too, but I don't use the GUI for this sort of thing
[17:26] <Iamalinuxnoob_> rp2 yep I a tad bit of experience in linux but not enough to do much outside of the simple stuff in terminal  the troubleshooting has given me fits but its well worth it if this thing can fix it now :D
[17:26] <rp2> join the club :)
[17:27] <rp2> i still regularly have fits over linux audio configuration ... it keeps breaking, or I keep breaking it, because the audio system is a lot bigger than my poor brain
[17:27] <ranno> i have an internal SD card reader which does not work in ubuntu 14.04. it seems to be connected to pci because the lspci command returns the following:
[17:27] <ranno> 02:00.0 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd MMC/SD Host Controller (rev 07)
[17:28] <ranno> do you guys have any idea how to get the card reader working ?
[17:29] <rp2> Iamalinuxnoob_: try never to edit an existing file that requires root permissions, and if you do, at the very least copy the original before you do
[17:30] <trism> ciscoftw: chromium/chrome won't load npapi plugins anymore so you can't use the java plugin with it
[17:30] <Daghdha> Hi. When i go to network settings i cannot edit the options. The button is greyed out. When i go to Network Connections there are no connections listed. I am however connected to the internet via wired cable. Any idea what cuases this? This machine has been migrated from 10.x up to current version 14.04 LTS Desktop Ubuntu
[17:30] <Iamalinuxnoob_> rp2 that really sucks D: I actually never had any issues with linux before the latest stuff I have been doing (basically reinstalling it) Had nothing but fits for the past several weeks in regards to linux lol my desktop is lightyears ahead of my laptop but yet my desktop is the one having the errors D:
[17:31] <Zomous> did anyone here had good experience with an NVIDIA 730m on Ubuntu 14.04?
[17:31] <ceblue> Hello Ubuntu experts. Do you know of a runners' gps watch that can sync with Ubuntu? (like Garmin Forerunner but that is only for PC)
[17:31] <ciscoftw> trism: no? i'd really like to avoid the icetea java -perfer orcle version
[17:31] <jmadero> hi all - http://pastebin.com/0Bad0TBF
[17:32] <trism> ciscoftw: no you can't use icedtea either
[17:32] <jmadero> I have a weird problem where my server is exporting to directories via NFS but on my client - both folders that I have mounted lead to the same (one) of the exports
[17:32] <jmadero> pastebin above
[17:32] <ciscoftw> trism: did this recently change? seems like it did with upgrade to v35
[17:32] <trism> ciscoftw: you have to use firefox until somebody makes a ppapi plugin, if it ever happens
[17:32] <trism> ciscoftw: yes they just disabled npapi with 35
[17:32] <jmadero> two*
[17:32] <ciscoftw> wow, this is pretty giant fail.
[17:32] <Fuchs> jmadero: err, yes, because both poin tto <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[17:32] <ciscoftw> thanx trism
[17:32] <Iamalinuxnoob_> rp2 I will do that xD I am very reluctant to do anything with sys files as root but unfortunately this reqs me to do so lol
[17:33] <Fuchs> oh, wait, wut ...
[17:33] <rp2> Iamalinuxnoob_: I've had that feeling for 15 years now :)
[17:33] <Fuchs> oh, these are two files, silly me. Sorry.
[17:33] <jmadero> Fuchs: that's not the problem that's just sharing to all machines on the network
[17:33] <jmadero> see example: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[17:33] <Fuchs> jmadero: yes, sorry, I thought that it is one file, not two. So I was confused for a moment, thee
[17:33] <Fuchs> *there
[17:33] <_2_Wuendy>  Español
[17:34] <jmadero> Fuchs: it's very weird, "LittleMan" is being mounted to both /media/LittleMan and /media/MEGAMAN on my local machine
[17:34] <jmadero> the client
[17:34] <rp2> jmadero: so what do the mounts and the exports look like?
[17:34] <Iamalinuxnoob_> rp2 haha xD dang seems like my issue is not fixed I am currently suck with a speedtest of .16 download .72 upload my connection should be around 13.00 -_-
[17:34] <jmadero> rp2: check log ;)
[17:34] <jmadero> rp2: http://pastebin.com/0Bad0TBF
[17:34] <ciscoftw> ...in case anyone is following... https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=375909
[17:35] <rp2> hm
[17:35] <jmadero> strange right?
[17:35] <jmadero> a similar (if not identical) setup worked before
[17:36] <jmadero> oh more input is that same problems happens on a different client with not exactly the same /etc/fstab - so it must be the server
[17:36] <ceblue> I've just installed Lxde (apt-get install lxde) on a headless trusty server. I remember being told `startx` was not recommended on Trusty but not what I was supposed to do instead.
[17:36] <jmadero> or very much suspect it is the server I suppose
[17:37] <rp2> jmadero: can you pastebin the putput of mount | fgrep nfs ?
[17:37] <jmadero> rp2: client or server?
[17:37] <rp2> client
[17:37] <rp2> or /msg it to me :)
[17:37] <rp2> ah ...
[17:37] <Moony22_> I'm back
[17:38] <rp2> it is already in that pastebin right?
[17:38] <jmadero> indeed
[17:38] <jmadero> not the exact command, but same output
[17:38] <rp2> what does the command output say?
[17:39] <jmadero> rp2: http://pastebin.com/506CwQxY
[17:39] <rp2> perhaps the configuration changed after the mounts were made? it won't magically discover that
[17:39] <rp2> I don't see the problem, they're two different diectories right?
[17:40] <ceblue> Should I install lightdm or use startx?
[17:40] <jmadero> yes and on the server I can confirm that they both are fine
[17:40] <Moony22> So, ubuntu has issues detecting my screen res
[17:40] <jmadero> they are two separate hard drives completely ;)
[17:40] <rp2> then what is wrong on the client?
[17:40] <ayoub_lb> mysql question if possible?  i'm trying to partition a 34GB+ table. altering does nothing. i created a new table with partitions, and did an insert into X select * from y; but when done, select count shows 22 million record missing..
[17:40] <jmadero> on the client it's mounting one directory in two places
[17:40] <rp2> which one?
[17:41] <jmadero> so the server has /media/LittleMan and /media/MEGAMAN, I mount to the same directories on client (media setup), /media/LittleMan is being mounted to both /media/LittleMan and /media/MEGAMAN
[17:41] <rp2> ok
[17:41] <jmadero> oh even better - if I comment out /media/LittleMan and try to restart the nfs server I get errors
[17:41] <Moony22> I don't know if anyone saw my issue before
[17:41] <jmadero> which leads me to think even more server problem
[17:41] <rp2> very strange
[17:41] <rp2> and when did you last change this configuration?
[17:42] <jmadero> rp2:  I was forced to upgrade when raspbmc pushed an update :(
[17:42] <jmadero> it broke a lot of things, this is the last remaining
[17:42] <Moony22> should I reinstall ubuntu?
[17:42] <jmadero> Moony22: no that won't solve the problem, reinstalling usually isn't recommended in Linux world
[17:42] <rp2> what does exportfs say is exported?
[17:43] <Moony22> jmadero: surely it'll solve the issue...it'll reset everything to how it was!
[17:43] <jmadero> sure - if you want to do it that way
[17:43] <jmadero> rp2: claims both are exported
[17:43] <rp2> hm
[17:43] <jmadero> right . . . wth
[17:43] <Moony22> I just don't know how to fix this - I think I broke a lot of things
[17:43] <Moony22> for example both grub is messed up and also my screen resolution
[17:44] <jmadero> Moony22: fair enough, reinstall :)
[17:44] <ceblue> Moony22: What is problem?
[17:44] <Moony22> along with plymouth
[17:44] <Moony22> ceblue: the main problem is my screen res is stuck
[17:44] <Moony22> at 1280x1024
[17:44] <x1gamal> *luvs* ubuntu
[17:45] <rp2> so the client is claiming it mounted <IP_ADDRESS>:/media/MEGAMAN on /media/MEGAMAN, but when you look at the files in /media/MEGAMAN, you see files that are not in /media/MEGAMAN on the server?
[17:45] <ceblue> Moony22: And what about grub and plymouth?
[17:45] <jmadero> rp2: exactly
[17:45] <rp2> and <IP_ADDRESS> really is the server? and the files are really different there?
[17:46] <jmadero> lol yes
[17:46] <jmadero> I can screenshot them if yo'ud like ;)
[17:46] <rp2> verify it. it must be something stupid.
[17:46] <ceblue> Hello Ubuntu experts. Do you know of a runners' gps watch that can sync with Ubuntu? (like Garmin Forerunner but that is only for PC)
[17:46] <rp2> have you tried umounting and then remounting them on the client?
[17:47] <Moony22> ceblue: er, well I've been changing the plymouth screen and also changing screen res in /etc/default/grub
[17:47] <jmadero> rp2: a ton of times
[17:47] <jmadero> also restarting server
[17:48] <rp2> well
[17:49] <rp2> I'd say there's nothing wrong with your two config files, so it must be something stupid, like, not realizing te contents of /media.MEGAMAN are really those of /media/LittleMan on the server
[17:49] <jmadero> rp2: https://plus.google.com/photos/117397839011853181951/albums/5893637671592409297/6016679360750891026?pid=6016679360750891026&oid=117397839011853181951
[17:49] <jmadero> that one is showing server on left, client on right of LittleMan
[17:49] <jmadero> rp2: https://plus.google.com/photos/117397839011853181951/albums/5893637671592409297/6016679367374996898?pid=6016679367374996898&oid=117397839011853181951
[17:49] <jmadero> that one is showing server on left, client on right, of MEGAMAN
[17:50] <ceblue> says i need to sign into g+ to view your screencaps
[17:50] <rp2> wow.
[17:50] <jmadero> rp2: right!?
[17:51] <rp2> now I really don't know what else to try
[17:51] <jmadero> did I blow your mind?
[17:51] <phyzloc> Hi! Can someone assist me to revert my ubuntu 14.04 xorg to its default state?
[17:51] <jmadero> my mind is blown
[17:51] <rp2> yes, pretty much
[17:51] <rp2> I want to go home *sob* :)
[17:52] <jmadero> I want my home server to work right again :(
[17:52] <jmadero> double dob
[17:52] <Xip> Hi I can't find my usb stick, what could be the reason? It's formatted on Windows FAT32.. and works fine on it..
[17:52] <ceblue> Are you sure you havent symlinked anything by mistake? or the export is itself mounted on the server?
[17:52] <jmadero> sob*
[17:52] <phyzloc> I tried to install nvidia drivers suggested from nvidias home page for my graphics card but it scewed up everything
[17:52] <Iamalinuxnoob_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/471208/realtek-wireless-adapter-issues-rtl8192ce-and-rtl8192cu
[17:52] <rp2> phyzloc: I'm not sure but maybe the dpkg-reconfigure command can help. I'm scared to use it though
[17:52] <jmadero> ceblue: indeed nothing is symlinked - literally I just directly export the foloder
[17:53] <jmadero> folder*
[17:53] <phyzloc> rp2: thath command doesn't to anything
[17:53] <jmadero> and the screenshots show clearly that the server and client are seeing different things:(
[17:53] <phyzloc> rp2: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg or lightdm just returns me to the prompt
[17:54] <ceblue> jmadero: and that folder is not a network mount from somewhere else? also i cant see your screenshots due to being asked to login to g+ when i click them
[17:54] <jmadero> ceblue: if you have somehwere else for me to upload I will
[17:54] <rp2> phyzloc: I've been doing similar kinds of things to get OpenGL working, but that was with a different brand of graphics card
[17:54] <jmadero> ceblue: and no the folder is not a network mount to somewhere else - they are literally just two different hard drives
[17:54] <jmadero> that are connected to my raspberry Pi
[17:55] <ceblue> jmadero: imgur? doesnt need a login (from you either)
[17:55] <rp2> sometimes it would also help to uninstall the driver packages and install an alternative bt I've never done this for NVidia
[17:56] <jmadero> ceblue: http://imgur.com/a/IziZf
[17:56] <jmadero> server left/client right
[17:57] <phyzloc> Any nvidia experts in here?
[17:57] <ceblue> jmadero: ok so megaman is the wrong folder
[17:57] <jmadero> ceblue: yes on the client
[17:58] <votlon> hello all
[17:59] <rp2> jmadero: what does showmount say?
[17:59] <ceblue> jmadero: wow
[17:59] <rp2> if you have that
[18:00] <votlon> exit
[18:00] <jmadero> rp2: server or client?
[18:00] <jmadero> sorry not a network expert ;)
[18:00] <rp2> client
[18:00] <ceblue> jmadero: r.pi is arm jsn't? Have you checked the arm implementation of NFS bug list?
[18:00] <rp2> it's been 10 years since I've used NFS, sorry
[18:00] <jmadero> ceblue: I haven't - I should I guess
[18:01] <jmadero> was hoping it was human error not bug
[18:01] <jmadero> because this is my entire media setup :(
[18:01] <jmadero> showmount gives this clnt_create: RPC: Program not registered
[18:01] <rp2> so I suppose /media/* is mounted from elsewhere on the server?
[18:01] <ceblue> jmadero: it may be human error, i am not too familiar with nfs complexities, i can get it working but this is an unusual case
[18:02] <jmadero> rp2: /media/MEGAMAN is just an external hard drive - that's just the mount point
[18:02] <ceblue> rp2: i asked that already, i was thinking that too. it's good to know we are following the same debugging path :-) makes me feel like, perhaps, mine works!
[18:05] <sam__> error while installing eclipse t http://paste.ubuntu.com/7506603/ any hint???
[18:06] <rp2> jmadero: is this useful? http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/82290/linux-clnt-create-rpc-program-not-registered
[18:08] <jmadero> rp2: lol I have to do that already (restart rpcbind and then restart nfs) -- really annoying
[18:08] <rp2> can't you just use CIFS?
[18:09] <jmadero> um if I have to - I'm comfortable with nfs and have been using it for years :(
[18:09] <jmadero> what a pain in the butt
[18:09] <rp2> yeah, but this is crazy
[18:10] <ceblue> It is crazy. does only 1 share at a time work? test each share singly
[18:10] <jmadero> indeed it is - I was forced an update that broke half my stuff
[18:10] <jmadero> woke up one morning and boom - update and broken media box
[18:10] <rp2> that's even crazier
[18:10] <jmadero> ceblue: the crazy thing is if I comment out LittleMan the server spits out errors when I start up nfs
[18:10] <rp2> the *server*
[18:10] <jmadero> let me get that error really quick
[18:10] <jmadero> it's literally like it doesn't see MEGAMAN at all
[18:11] <rp2> the server is hiding something from us
[18:11] <jmadero> when trying to share - but then claims it is sharing it
[18:11] <ceblue> jmadero: if you comment out the other, it's fine?
[18:11] <Kerry-Anne18>  Here some videos. I hope you like them! http://bit.ly/S0CEdA
[18:11] <jmadero> ceblue: testing now give me 1 minute
[18:12] <Daghdha> Can anyone h elp get me my interfaces editable inside the settings screens? I now always have to go to interfaces files in /etc/network
[18:13] <jmadero> LITERALLY INSANE - so LittleMan is commented out - I restarted nfs server fine - but when I try to mount all on client I get: "mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting <IP_ADDRESS>:/media/LittleMan"
[18:13] <jmadero> but LittleMan is commented out!
[18:13] <ceblue> jmadero: The next thing to do is rename the folder/share to a not-before-seen name and see if that fixes it, case of weird old config data.
[18:13] <jmadero> okay I'll try that right now
[18:14] <jmadero> one minute
[18:14] <jmadero> oh that's going to be a pain actually as the drives are labeled
[18:14] <ceblue> oh ya, that will annoying
[18:15] <jmadero> okay going to continue blowing your minds - removing LittleMan completely (disconnecting)
[18:15] <rp2> jmadero: wait ... is it commented out on the server, on the client, or on both?
[18:15] <jmadero> rp2: just server
[18:15] <ceblue> jmadero: i think you have a bug related to broken config, and purging or using new names, might fix
[18:15] <jmadero> going to try that now
[18:15] <jmadero> this is literally insane
[18:15] <rp2> then no wonder the client is complaining it can't mount it
[18:15] <jmadero> but thanks for dealing with my antics ;)
[18:15] <rp2> ddid you umount both first??
[18:15] <magikarpales> is anyone here running chrubuntu on an old cr-48 chromebook?
[18:16] <jmadero> rp2: but it shouldn't be trying to mount it - usually if LittleMan is turned off then my client only mounts MEGAMAN
[18:16] <jmadero> no complaints
[18:16] <ceblue> 99% sure it's a corrupted config
[18:16] <ceblue> or nfs broke in the new patch
[18:16] <jmadero> I'll take door #1
[18:16] <jmadero> because door #2 makes my media center useless
[18:17] <jmadero> okay - so commenting out LittleMan on both server and client - MEGAMAN mounts fine
[18:18] <ceblue> well, if you are sure it is a corupt config, purge it and remake it
[18:18] <rp2> ok
[18:18] <rp2> now comment out MEGAMAN en uncomment LittleMan on both?
[18:18] <jmadero> rp2: doing now
[18:18] <jmadero> that was comment out on both + unmount LittleMan on server
[18:19] <ceblue> I thought I told you to try 1 share at a time already and you had?
[18:19] <StevenX> Hello
[18:19] <jmadero> ceblue: I had only commented out on server not client
[18:19] <ceblue> ok sorry
[18:19] <gavin_> need help installing Ubuntu
[18:20] <gavin_> have a dell inspiron 531 with windows xp
[18:20] <jmadero> rebooting Pi so give me a few
[18:21] <gavin_> have formatted the drive and when I boot from cd it says no operating sys
[18:21] <jmadero> gavin_: then you aren't botting from cd
[18:21] <jmadero> it's trying to read from the hard drive
[18:22] <jmadero> gavin_: are you sure you have a bootable CD?
[18:22] <gavin_> the cd opens on my new computer
[18:22] <rp2> gavin_: maybe booting from CD is disabled in the BIOS settings
[18:23] <jmadero> gavin_: and are you sure this other machine is same architecture?
[18:23] <rp2> check the boot configuration on startup
[18:23] <Jordan_U> gavin_: How did you burn the CD?
[18:24] <ceblue> if the cd works on other pc, it is a bios setting-enable boot menu etv
[18:24] <gavin_> it says no boot device available  sata0 installed, sata 1 installed, sata2 none, sata3 none
[18:24] <jmadero> ceblue: rp2 - yes same works for LittleMan
[18:25] <rp2> gavin_: there must be an option to select which devices it tries to boot from
[18:25] <rp2> that is not the list of devices, it's a different list
[18:25] <gavin_> i selected cd
[18:25]  * Moony22 reinstalls ubuntu
[18:25] <bah__>  /msg nickserv register bah<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[18:25] <rp2> you must put CD before hard drive
[18:25] <rp2> you can order them
[18:26] <ceblue> I think trusty used hybrid images that detect as hdds now. Unsure as I have nothing with Bios anymore.
[18:26] <rp2> jmadero: so what happens if you reverse their order?
[18:27] <rp2> first on one, then on the other
[18:27] <jmadero> rp2: tried that first - same problem
[18:27] <rp2> I know this is stupid but I can't think of anything else to try
[18:27] <jmadero> that's not stupid - I was lost for ideas yesterday
[18:27] <rp2> was it still LittleMan being mounted as MEGAMAN or was it reversed?
[18:28] <jmadero> um - I think it was still LittleMan
[18:29] <rp2> and the problem reappears after you reboot both server and client? that is the crazierst part
[18:29] <rp2> do they really need to be mounted under /media?
[18:30] <rp2> if not, a workaround is to mount both to a common directory on the server, NFS export that, and mount it in the client
[18:31] <jmadero> rp2: new findings - neither is commented out on server, commented out MEGAMAN on client, did a mount all and MEGAMAN on client shows LittleMan content
[18:31] <rp2> coult choosing /media as the client location be the problem?
[18:31] <TE> hello everyone, I wonder if there is a way to re-install/compile the alsa-drivers with 3.14 kernel as I've accidentally removed the kernel modules.
[18:31] <jmadero> trying to figure out if it's client or server
[18:31] <jmadero> rp2: maybe I'll try a different mount location as a test
[18:32] <rp2> jmadero: are you sure neither were mounted before you issued the mountall???
[18:32] <TE> I've tried the basic stuff such as reinstalling the packages, but obvious those don't do anything with the kernel modules
[18:32] <jmadero> rp2: indeed - I made sure
[18:33] <rp2> so nothing on the client tells it to mount /media/MEGAMAN, but it still does??
[18:33] <rp2> is there another part in /etc/fstab or somewhere else that still tries to mount it, e.g. through the automounter?
[18:33] <jmadero> opposite but yes - nothing says to mount what server sees as LittleMan
[18:33] <jmadero> but it's mounting it on /media/MEGAMAN
[18:33] <jmadero> I'm 99% sure it's server
[18:34] <rp2> isn't /media controlled by a a special mounting service rather than /etc/fstab? I'm guessing now
[18:34] <jmadero> honestly no clue - I just know this worked before updates
[18:34] <rp2> can you change the mount directories in /etc/fstab to somewhere else and retry?
[18:34] <jmadero> but let me try a temp directory
[18:34] <jmadero> yeah I'll mount to home folder
[18:34] <jmadero> temp1 and temp2
[18:34] <rp2>  /mount is traditional
[18:35] <rp2> ok
[18:35] <rp2>  i mean /mnt
[18:35] <rp2> or issue the mount command manually instead of using mountall
[18:35] <jmadero> rp2: mount all - to temp folder in home - same problem
[18:35] <rp2> after all, if it's a bug it can be a bug in fstab parsing
[18:36] <rp2> so don't mount all, mount them manually one by one
[18:36] <jmadero> rp2: all righty another test :)
[18:38] <ceblue> remind me nkt to walk by your window, i would not like to be hit by a thrown r.pi
[18:39] <jmadero> ceblue: trust me - the raspbmc room didn't like me for awhile because all I said was "why did you push this STUPID update on me!"
 Also, I really do hope you can isolate the problem.
[18:42] <ceblue> Heading out now: bon chance.
[18:42] <magikarpales> hey guys. i have a spastic wifi driver. running chrubuntu on a cr-48
[18:43] <rp2> magikarpales: sorry I've never used a chromebook
[18:43] <magikarpales> wifi consistently connects and reconnects
[18:44] <TE> if you're on the 2.4Ghz band then it might be overloaded
[18:44] <magikarpales> rp2: should i go on ask ubuntu? i didn't see any cr-48 specific wifi driver issues
[18:44] <magikarpales> rp2: AskUbuntu
[18:44] <xeno__> What's the best remote desktop client to access windows from Ubuntu?
[18:45] <rp2> magikarpales: does it only happen with that device?
[18:45] <rp2> i mean the chromebook
[18:46] <rp2> xeno__: I prefer grdesktop
[18:46] <rp2> but I don't think I've tried them all
[18:46] <rp2> and it doesn't do remote drive mapping or sound
[18:46] <rp2> not sure if any of the others do
[18:47] <xeno__> Thank you rp2.
[18:47] <rp2> rdesktop has more options i think but the same limitations
[18:49] <RAZ0REDGE> hello
[18:49] <RAZ0REDGE> http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2014/143/c/8/freebsd_10_0_openbox_with_plank_0_5_0_and_lxpanel_by_ipodpunker-d7jfmug.png i got plank to work on freebsd ;)
[18:49] <magikarpales> rp2: i don't have another chromebook with chrubuntu installed. if figured it was because it's circa 2009 it would be spastic.
[18:50] <xeno__> It appears rdesktop got installed when I installed grdesktop
[18:50] <dinnelson> .login admin
[18:51] <RAZ0REDGE> i'm using EOS unstable on this box though :) i was just wondering is OpenSSL is patch and all.  I did however update/update the ubuntu base
[18:52] <RAZ0REDGE> upgrade i meant
[18:52] <magikarpales> oh wait. i think i found something relevant on Ask Ubuntu. thanks rp2
[18:53] <rp2> magikarpales: good luck ...
[18:53] <RAZ0REDGE> EOS is using a roughly a old ubuntu base :S
[18:55] <RAZ0REDGE> been using ubuntu since it first came out about in the early 2000 lulz i have stop because of the unity shell i was like YIKES what the H*LL man ? ?  ? but i must say 14.04 is quite stable ... i just like the shell and EOS shell of gnome 3 the base is not really my cup of tea.. a BSD base would be much prefered
[18:55] <RAZ0REDGE> maybe ubuntu should switch to FreeBSD base ;P
[18:56] <bazo> salut
[18:56] <RAZ0REDGE> anyhow i know i'm extremely off topic, and i'm sorry for that.. take care people i'm just happy i got bamf sorted and plank is now working :D
[18:56] <jmadero> rp2: new label and mount point no god
[18:56] <jmadero> good*
[18:57] <jr__> hola buenas
[18:57] <rp2> I've always liked Unity ... there's no accounting for taste I suppose. I liked FreeBSD a lot back when I was using it.
[18:57] <rp2> 'label'?
[18:58] <jmadero> I just came up with a stupid solution that will work I think
[18:58] <rp2> jmadero: have you tried the manual mount commands?
[18:59] <jmadero> ah that was the one I forgot let me try that
[18:59] <jmadero> rp2: if not - I might just symlink
[18:59] <jmadero> all folders in LittleMan into MEGAMAN
[18:59] <rp2> hm
[19:01] <jmadero> LOL rp2 same result with manual
[19:07] <kingbeowolf> how do you guys control your raid?
[19:12] <netwrkspider> hi
[19:13] <vmusr> any ideas how to fix ubuntu 12.04 not detecting an blank cd-r?
[19:14] <astropirate_> hello guys
[19:14] <astropirate_> i am trying to connect to my server via SSH and RSA keys, but this is in my ssh client output:
[19:14] <astropirate_> "Offering RSA public key: /home/mansoor/.ssh/id_rsa"
[19:14] <astropirate_> why does it offer id_rsa and not id_rsa.pub?
[19:15] <astropirate_> any ideas?
[19:16] <xeno__> And what do you all use for skype?
[19:16] <astropirate_> skype
[19:17] <magikarpales> xeno__: jabber?
[19:18] <magikarpales> xeno__: sorry i came in late on this. are you wanting free open source alterns to skype? correct?
[19:18] <OerHeks> astropirate_, They're a key pair: id_rsa is your private key -- it should be kept secret, so that only you can use it; and id_rsa.pub is your public key -- you give it out so that others can verify that a given signature came from your private key
[19:18] <astropirate_> OerHeks, right
[19:19] <OerHeks> astropirate_, now you are logged in as rootaccount, you can see both
[19:19] <astropirate_> OerHeks, but, why does it offer the private key and not the publickey?
[19:20] <OerHeks> it does not know what you are going to do, encrypt, or decrypt, i guess
[19:24] <fixmypc956> guys i am having an issue trying to connect to my server motel
[19:24] <fixmypc956> remotely
[19:24] <xeno__> I just want to use what everyone else is using.
[19:24] <xeno__> It doesn't need to be fancy.
[19:25] <xeno__> It appears there are apps on Ubuntu related to Skype, but perhaps I am just supposed to use their app?
[19:25] <fixmypc956> myip gives me a dynamic ip address
[19:26] <fixmypc956> so i set up with dnsdynamico sooht i can have a DDNS connection
[19:26] <fixmypc956> i was previously able to connect remotely with Putty
[19:27] <rp2> xeno__: I think I installed it from a special package repository, and keep it up to date that way.
[19:27] <rp2> also I need to start it with some exotic environment variable setting in order to get video to work
[19:27] <rp2> I'll go home now where I did this, so I can check it
[19:27] <rp2> in about 20 minutes
[19:28] <fixmypc956> my set up is a primary router and the serveris connected to an access point
[19:28] <rp2> Skype that is.
[19:28] <xeno__> Wow, that's a lot of work.
[19:28] <fixmypc956> i can connect to my server locally
[19:28] <xeno__> I mean going home.
[19:29] <fixmypc956> but not remotely
[19:30] <fixmypc956> can anyone help
[19:31] <cai> gparted on 14.04 won't format anythign as fat32, only ntfs and ext, dosfs tools in on by default on ubuntu
[19:32] <DammitJim> what am I supposed to do with a message like this: W: Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise-security_multiverse_source_Sources  Hash Sum mismatch
[19:32] <DammitJim> I can't update any of my servers
[19:32] <DammitJim> the following line is: W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-security/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[19:32] <DammitJim> is there a different server I should be using for my updates?
[19:32] <DammitJim> I'm in Florida
[19:33] <willwh> DammitJim: did you apt-get update?
[19:33] <willwh> I assume that you are getting errors from that
[19:33] <willwh> or, did you just apt-get upgrade?
[19:33] <DammitJim> willwh, that's when it happens
[19:33] <willwh> 'cause if you did the latter, it's likely that your apt cache is out of date
[19:34] <willwh> when?
[19:34] <DammitJim> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:34] <DammitJim> let me see.. .I'm doing the former
[19:34] <DammitJim> ok, sudo apt-get update gives me the 404
[19:34] <jstrong> I have a Radeon HD 6670 I am attempting to run with ubuntu. I've followed all the steps to install the correct drivers for AMD, including those that are available on AMD's support center - no problems during installation. When I boot my machine always boots into "low graphics mode" and I cannot get past that point.
[19:34] <DammitJim> Err http://security.ubuntu.com precise-security/multiverse Sources
[19:34] <DammitJim>   404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[19:35] <jstrong> All the help on the net that I've found say I need to run "sudo aticonfig —initial" but i have already run this command several times to no avail.
[19:35] <Elench> Hi, I'm looking through the setup and can't see how to hide the bar thingie at the top, any hints?
[19:36] <jstrong> Any suggestions or ideas are helpful.
[19:36] <DammitJim> willwh, do I need to remove that source?
[19:37] <willwh> it shouldn't stop you dist upgrading
[19:38] <willwh> oh, you're just package upgrading
[19:39] <DammitJim> right
[19:39] <DammitJim> I would like to dist-upgrade, though
[19:40] <DammitJim> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7506935/
[19:40] <DammitJim> my sources list
[19:43] <Elench> Oh, and if there's an easy way to hide title bars then that too please :)
[19:44] <willwh> DammitJim: maybe give this a shot on one box? http://askubuntu.com/questions/297757/why-after-fresh-ubuntu-12-04-installation-update-arent-being-installed
[19:45] <DammitJim> sudo apt-get install linux?
[19:45] <DammitJim> that sounds rather strange!!!!
[19:45] <DammitJim> are you sure you aren't trying to trick me?
[19:49] <AcidRain2012> DammitJim, you have to install the linux package
[19:49] <AcidRain2012> ubuntu comes shipped without linux
[19:49] <AcidRain2012> sudo apt-get install linux will add the packages
[19:50] <DammitJim> oh gosh
[19:50] <DammitJim> ok, here goes nothing
[19:50] <AcidRain2012> wait
[19:50] <AcidRain2012> lol
[19:50] <AcidRain2012> i was jk
[19:50] <AcidRain2012> lmao
[19:50] <Evelyn> LOL
[19:51] <DammitJim> I mean, what the heck?
[19:51] <Jordan_U> AcidRain2012: When helping in this channel, be sure to actually be helpful. Pranks are not appreciated.
[19:51] <Evelyn> First time here and I see someone saying sudo apt-get install linux...I was seriously doubting the ubuntu community haha
[19:51] <DammitJim> so, is that link bogus?
[19:52] <AcidRain2012> Jordan_U, ill be sure to obey by the CoC
[19:52] <AcidRain2012> DammitJim, honestly, im not sure
[19:53] <kingbeowolf> how do you guys control your raid?
[19:54] <Elench> Hi, I'm wondering how I hide the title bar and that funny bar at the top of the display, I can't find a way :/
[19:55] <dutt> Hi, I’ve been having issues with my graphics drivers sometimes(like 1/4-1/6 of all boots) not being detected at boot since I updgraded to 14.04. now i tried to fix that…and it seems to detect it all the time. but my display is messed up. resolution is way low and i only get one screen active.
[19:55] <LjL-Laplet> Elench, those are meant to let you know which application you're using and who you are, respectively. you need them.
[19:55] <Elench> LjL-Laplet: I know those things
[19:56] <Elench> I don't need to be reminded
[19:56] <LjL-Laplet> Elench: let me stay skeptical
[19:56] <Elench> Scepticism is good, but I have a finite display size
[19:56] <DammitJim> anybody else? is this for real?
[19:56] <Elench> So I'd rather not waste it
[19:57] <LjL-Laplet> Elench: i'd keep in mind that as long as your window is maximized, given that the combined title+top bar also doubles as menubar (and you probably want to keep that one?), you are technically wasting no vertical pixels at all
[19:57] <Elench> LjL-Laplet: No, I don't want the menubar by default
[19:58] <Elench> I only want the thing I'm using :/
[19:58] <LjL-Laplet> Elench: uhm, i think it is generally tricky to convince many applications not to show their menubar at all... (although that's becoming a lot more common)
[19:58] <OerHeks> Elench, just checked, unity-tweak does not have such panel option, only the sidebar
[19:58] <Elench> LjL-Laplet: at least where I can I should be aboe to get rid of the bar thingie
[19:59] <Elench> OerHeks: so it's a bug in Unity itself?
[19:59] <Elench> Oh well, thanks anyway :/
[19:59] <OerHeks> Elench, no, just not an option yet.
[20:00] <OerHeks> it might be valuable enough to put it on a wishlist, not sure that still exists.
[20:00] <Elench> Thanks anyway :'(
[20:02] <dutt> anyone know how to restore the xorg config? ubuntu figured it out perfectly when I installed it, so I’d just like to do the same thing again.
[20:03] <thejck> test
[20:06] <igii> hi! I am new on ubuntu, can someone help me please about installing? I have few questions.. Thanks!
[20:06] <dutt> igii: what?
[20:08] <igii> Hey! In windows i made unallocated space (50 gb) but when i go to install ubuntu, he view whole HDD as unalocatted space? Why?
[20:09] <Jordan_U> igii: Because you have an invalid partition table.
[20:09] <Jordan_U> igii: http://www.rodsbooks.com/fixparts/
[20:09] <igii> what should i do? I dont understand this.. i am new but i love ubuntu and linux...
[20:09] <alket> hi , how to make a software backported onUbuntu ?
[20:10] <Jordan_U> igii: "sudo parted -l" will tell you the exact problem with your partition table, and fixparts should be able to fix it.
[20:10] <mjuszczak> What's the easiest way to get all of my mp3s out of ubuntuone since I can't install the app anymore?
[20:10] <mjuszczak> I'm on Mac OSX and didn't realize I couldn't install the app anymore and got rid of my old laptop
[20:10] <igii> will i lose data on my D disk?
[20:10] <Jordan_U> igii: No.
[20:11] <igii> i will try
[20:11] <Jordan_U> igii: Though no matter what you're doing, you should always have backups of any important data.
[20:13] <igii> is there easiest way? i dont know how to do this...
[20:13] <qin> mjuszczak: web?
[20:15] <qin> mjuszczak: apparently ftp too: http://askubuntu.com/questions/452524/how-to-download-all-files-from-ubuntu-one-in-14-04
[20:17] <rp2> xeno__:  I'm logged in now.
[20:18] <igii> is there easiest way? i dont know how to do this...
[20:19] <rp2> xeno__: and it turns out I just use the Skype from the Ubuntu partner packages
[20:19] <streulma> hello, my iSight webcam is not working, together with Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and Nvidia 331. I read it's related to the Nvidia drivers. iSight firmware is working...
[20:19] <rp2> igi: what exactly did you do when in windows you 'made unallocated space' ?
[20:20] <rp2> the Ubuntu installed should definitely see your Windows installation. if it doesn't, then don't proceed because installing will destroy your Windows installation
[20:20] <rp2> installed->installer
[20:21] <streulma> maybe it will work best with 12.04
[20:21] <igii> i open disk managmet, click od disk D and shrink volume
[20:22] <igii> Ubuntu not see Windows installation, only whole HDD as unalocated space, i am now in Windows and all working but i want to solve this problem and install Ubuntu alongside Windows
[20:22] <rp2> ok
[20:22] <igii> ?
[20:22] <Seveas> igii: are you using some kind of full disk encryption software under windows?
[20:22] <igii> no
[20:22] <rp2> it's odd, normally the Ubuntu installer should show you the WIndows partitions
[20:23] <phyzloc> What can cause Unity not to start after login?
[20:23] <igii> its now showing Windows partitions, only free space (and whole hard disk - 500 GB)
[20:23] <[[lutchy]]> Ubuntu shouldn't see that as unallocated space ...
[20:23] <Jordan_U> igii: Please boot from an Ubuntu LiveCD/USB, open a terminal, run "sudo parted -l", and post the output to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com (then share the link to the output with us).
[20:24] <igii> and i cant browse files from Ubuntu...
[20:24] <[[lutchy]]> The Drive is partitioned ... Either, IIRC, GPT is the only one I can think of right now
[20:24] <rp2> phyzloc: many different things. if you played with setting resolutionms, maybe your X config got screwed up (e.g. selecting a resolution that won't work)
[20:25] <igii> how can i login again here on Ubuntu? Just type my username or?
[20:25] <phyzloc> rp2: I installed nvidia drivers
[20:26] <rp2> phyzloc: on some machines I had a problem with compiz, I had to disable it (switch to unity2d) before I could use those machines, but that was only a problem with RDP
[20:26] <phyzloc> rp2: Now any driver I load or even when I remove the drivers Unity wont start
[20:26] <rp2> as I said, video drivers can have a big impact too
[20:26] <Jordan_U> igii: Yes, just use the same username so that there's no confusion on our side about who you are when you return :)
[20:26] <rp2> brrr
[20:26] <phyzloc> rp2: How do you switch to 2D?
[20:26] <lotuspsychje> phyzloc: did you try recoverymode from grub?
[20:26] <igii> thanks, i am going now to do this.
[20:27] <rp2> after you remove the drivers you may need to install some replacement
[20:27] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: try what?
[20:27] <phyzloc> rp2: And how do I find out what?
[20:28] <lotuspsychje> phyzloc: hold shift during boot and try recoverymode/failsafeX or fix broken packages from there
[20:28] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: The problem is that I don't know what packages to fix
[20:28] <rp2> I got OpenGL to work on my card by installing the xserver-xorg-core package
[20:28] <lotuspsychje> phyzloc: fix broken packages will try to automatic fix
[20:28] <rp2> I don't know what it did, it's all pretty much black magic to me
[20:29] <lotuspsychje> phyzloc: its an option on recoverymode
[20:29] <phyzloc> rp2: I doubt it's that packes since I'm inside X right now but without the Unity part
[20:29] <rp2> oh and xserver-xorg. apparently I was using X before without having that installed. that's what puzzled me. this is on 12.04 BTW
[20:29] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: In that case I have already tried it without success
[20:30] <rp2> ok ...
[20:30] <phyzloc> And I thought 14.04 was supposed to be much better
[20:30] <rp2> is the unty package installed? and the unity-2d package?
[20:31] <lotuspsychje> phyzloc: trusty is better, but it all depends on hardware
[20:31] <lotuspsychje> phyzloc: whats your grafix card chipset?
[20:32] <phyzloc> rp2: Yes, Unity is installed
[20:32] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: It's Geforce 8600 GT
[20:33] <WACOMalt> How can I see the largest files/folders on my computer? (via terminal)
[20:33] <lotuspsychje> phyzloc: http://www.howopensource.com/2012/10/install-nvidia-geforce-driver-in-ubuntu-12-10-12-04-using-ppa/
[20:34] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: I've already tried that .. didn't help
[20:34] <lotuspsychje> phyzloc: did you upgrade or clean install 14.04?
[20:34] <igii> hi, i am in Ubuntu now. What to type in terminal?
[20:34] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: Clean install
[20:35] <lotuspsychje> phyzloc: with updates during install and third party software internet enabled?
[20:36] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: No. After installation I installed nvidia drivers manually
[20:36] <lotuspsychje> phyzloc: its recommended to install ubuntu with internet connection
[20:36] <lotuspsychje> phyzloc: so you know wich driver ubuntu loads by default
[20:36] <igii> what to type in terminal?
[20:37] <Jordan_U> igii: sudo parted -l
[20:37] <joelmo> I installed i3 and using this instead of gnome, my upstart jobs don't run any more and when i start them manually they cant be found, do  you know how to fix this?
[20:37] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: Why can't I do that now?
[20:37] <igii> command not found
[20:38] <lotuspsychje> phyzloc: can you try recovermode and root terminal, maybe try nvidia-current
[20:38] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: I'm on nvidia-current right now
[20:38] <lotuspsychje> hmmm
[20:38] <lotuspsychje> phyzloc: thought you said you install manually?
[20:38] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: lshw show configuration: driver=nvidia latency=0
[20:39] <WACOMalt> according to munin, my server has high postfix activity, but I have no mail features set up on my server
[20:39] <WACOMalt> should I be worried?
[20:40] <[wilhelm]> Lore Ant Hill is getting released.
[20:40] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: yes, first I downloaded the suggested driver from Nvidia home page. that made everything black, didn't work at all. Then I removed it and ran apt-get install nvidia-current
[20:40] <lotuspsychje> phyzloc: so after ubuntu install, have you been able to login to unity?
[20:40] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: That's where I am right now
[20:40] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: From the begining yes. But that was Ubuntus drivers not nvidia
[20:41] <Jordan_U> igii: What was the exact output?
[20:41] <lotuspsychje> phyzloc: did it not work properly at start? whats the reason you installed manually after?
[20:41] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: If I could list all graphics drivers I could tell you which one was used. Is there a way to list?
[20:41] <lotuspsychje> phyzloc: best way is check your additional drivers list first
[20:41] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: I wanted hardware acceleration for XBMC
[20:41] <lotuspsychje> phyzloc: in software sources
[20:42] <Jordan_U> igii: Copy and paste if needed.
[20:42] <igii> sudo: parted: command not found
[20:43] <lotuspsychje> igii: did you not forget the -l
[20:43] <Jordan_U> igii: What is the output of "lsb_release -d"?
[20:43] <igii> i not forgeted
[20:43] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: Are you talking about apt sources? I don't see any additional drivers there
[20:44] <igii> isb_release-d: command not found
[20:44] <lotuspsychje> phyzloc: software sources icon/last tab additional drivers
[20:44] <lotuspsychje> phyzloc: or extra drivers icon
[20:44] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: Hmm.. problem is I don't see any icons :-)
[20:44] <iceroot> igii: lsb_release -d
[20:44] <Jordan_U> igii: Please copy and paste the commands given to you to be sure you don't mistype them.
[20:45] <igii> description: elementary OS Luna
[20:45] <lotuspsychje> phyzloc: i would try recovermode, or clean reinstall
[20:46] <igii> what to do :(
[20:47] <lotuspsychje> !elementary | igii
[20:47] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: Ok found it. Right now I'm on nvidia 173.x. The default driver that worked from the begining was Nouveau. Question is if I can select the old one from here
[20:48] <igii> sorry friends, i am new in this
[20:48] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: There is a revert button but it's greyed out :-/
[20:48] <lotuspsychje> !info nvidia-173
[20:49] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: Yeah it's a legacy driver since the card isn't supported in the latest
[20:51] <igii> there is no one on they channel, can you help me with this problem
[20:51] <Jordan_U> igii: If you'd like our help installing Ubuntu, you need to actually be installing Ubuntu, not another distribution.
[20:51] <igii> ok
[20:51] <lotuspsychje> phyzloc: this card is bit older right?
[20:52] <droid> someone can help me install spotydl for linux ubuntu 14.04
[20:52] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: I guess since it's on legacy..
[20:52] <Jordan_U> igii: Please come back when you're booted into an Ubuntu LiveCD/USB environment. I Recommend using Ubuntu 14.04 (or Lubuntu 14.04 if you have a very old computer and want a lightweight desktop environment).
[20:53] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: I'm going to try selecting the default driver from Software & updates program
[20:53] <lotuspsychje> phyzloc: my best bet would be default driver that ubuntu loads by default
[20:53] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: So if I stop writing you'll know why :-)
[20:53] <lotuspsychje> phyzloc: good luck, dont forget you can enter recoverymode aswell
[20:54] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: I'll try that if this doesn't work.
[20:54] <lotuspsychje> phyzloc: i saved a few boxes on grafix issues with 'fix broken packages' from recoverymode
[20:55] <lotuspsychje> droid: whats spotydl?
[20:55] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: gotcha
[20:55] <phyzloc> lotuspsychje: rebooting now :-)
[20:55] <droid> a tool for record songs of spotify
[20:56] <serverhorror> hello, (asked this in #debian since no one seems to be active reposting here, it’s not restricted to a specific distro and I don’t know better places) — I’m looking for image based deployment options (not necessarily block based). can someone give me pointers as to what to use. I know there’s SystemImager but beyond that I don’t know of any software that achieves this
[20:57] <Beldar> serverhorror, clonezilla? This is ubuntu support however we don't generally answer beyond that.
[20:58] <serverhorror> wow times have changed
[20:58] <Beldar> there is ##linux serverhorror you have to be registered however with freenoded
[20:58] <Beldar> #freenode
[20:59] <serverhorror> Beldar: any experience with it or just ‘heard of it’ (like I have with SystemImager)
[20:59] <Beldar> serverhorror, I use clonezilla but not for that just a an imager, it has deployment though.
[20:59] <Beldar> as*
[21:00] <droid> nevermind i search on browser
[21:00] <droid> bye
[21:01] <Rug> Howdy all
[21:01] <Rug> http://paste.debian.net/101472/    I have a workstation that cannot ping a second NIC on a Virtualbox guest.  Any suggestions?
[21:02] <serverhorror> Rug: what network mode is the nic using?
[21:03] <Rug> serverhorror: network mode?
[21:04] <serverhorror> Rug: bridged, nat, nat network, host-only — AFAIR only bridged allows to access the vm nic without further ado
[21:05] <Rug> serverhorror: bridged.
[21:05] <streulma> which Nvidia driver for 14.04 is useable? Is 331 the best ?
[21:06] <serverhorror> Rug: since you talk about a second nic, is the first one bridged, and if so can you ping that one?
[21:06] <ceblue> Reporting a bug: I don't know how to work the bug tracker, and in any case it's probably upstream. Trusty. Type 'usermod' (no args). Help comes up. 'remove' is mispelled as 'remvoe' on several occasions.
[21:06] <Rug> serverhorror: yes I can ping eth0 but not eth1
[21:06] <Rug> both are bridged
[21:07] <serverhorror> Rug: does eth1 have an ip and is it really up?
[21:07] <streulma> Rug: eth1 must have no gateway !
[21:07] <Rug> yes
[21:07] <askon> Hello everyone, my computer is after a repair, it had some water split on it, everything works fine but not sure about the internal mic, using latest ubuntu, pulse audio, when on skype hearing noise only, is there a way to check it for sure, whether it is physical or something skype-ubuntu related?
[21:07] <Rug> streulma: correct
[21:07] <serverhorror> Rug: and the ip is routable from you host? (btw. does eth1 ping from eth0 inside the vm)
[21:09] <bish0p_> Hey, so I finally got around to installing skype on my netbook, and for some reason it won't recognize my webcam.
[21:10] <Rug> serverhorror: the server has 2 IP's (<IP_ADDRESS>/24 & <IP_ADDRESS>/24)  my worstation can ping both (route is working both ways)  my server can only ping eth0 on the Vbox guest (<IP_ADDRESS>) not eth1 (10.0.0.x)
[21:10] <bish0p_> Is there any way to fix this? The webcame booth thing works, and other programs can see it. Just not skype.
[21:11] <Rug> give me a second for a more detailed config/post on pastebin
[21:11] <Iulia> Hello everyone! Does anybody please has a link with some help for the classical error ...lower resolution than normal in Ubuntu 14.04 ...Mine is 1440x900 and the one wich is set now 1024x768 :(    Many thanks
[21:11] <sparsam> who have experience with ubuntu server cloud?
 try to play around with ARandR it helped me some time ago
[21:12] <guntbert> sparsam: what is your real question? - serve is better discussed in #ubuntu-server genrerally
[21:13] <Iulia> thanks, I will try to find what is that...I tried thousands of things
[21:14] <jstrong> the default ATI driver open source gives me refresh problems
[21:14] <sparsam> tanks askon
[21:14] <jstrong> that is to say that the screen doesn't automatically refresh unless I do things like drag windows
[21:14] <jstrong> I'm using a Radeon HD 6700 card
[21:14] <jstrong> any ideas?
[21:14] <habanany1> fellows i need help, im installing mint 17 to replace mint 16 on a dual boot mint/ubuntu , right now im on the partition editor step, which option should i use ? (use as )
[21:15] <daftykins> Rug: yeah a diagram would be good
[21:16] <ceblue> There used to be a tool to minify a samba smb.conf for faster execution. I don't see mention of this in Trusty. Is this no longer required?
[21:16] <daftykins> !mint | habanany1
[21:16] <wad> When I ssh into an Ubuntu machine, it tells me what updates are available. Can I run a command from the command line to do this?
[21:17] <ceblue> wad sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:17] <Iulia> It suposes I manually added 1440x900 in xrandr but when I open ARandR displays 1440x900 (1920x1080) and changes it to 1920x1080 instead of 1440x900.    Anyone understands why ? Please and thanks a lot
[21:18] <wad> ceblue, not so much, that asks me to upgrade. I just want to output the same thing that shows up when I ssh to the box.
[21:18] <ceblue> wad: use the part before the && only then
[21:19] <wad> Okay.
[21:19] <daftykins> that won't output a status
[21:19] <wad> yeah
[21:19] <wad> I'm digging through the scripts, such as .bashrc, to find where it's doing this....
[21:20] <wad> not finding it so far.
[21:20] <wad> Looked in /etc/bash.bashrc .... what other stuff gets run on login?
[21:20] <daftykins> it's the motd you want to work out what does
 it probably reads the resolutions from a config file, search something on that, how to change the resolution in the config file manually
[21:21] <wad> ah!
[21:21] <wad> Where is the motd invoked?
[21:21] <daftykins> pass.
[21:21] <daftykins> but then, you don't want it to be too easy?
[21:22]  * wad is finding it....
[21:22] <ceblue> etc motd? etc update-motc ?
[21:22] <phyzloc> Can someone explain this please.. I run apt-get --purge remove xorg xserver-xorg ubuntu-desktop lightdm...and then install them again, but the desktop seems to be the same. Shouldn't it revert back to default???
[21:22] <JMichaelX> have decided to upgrade a server from 12.04 to 14.04. upon trying to run 'do-release-upgrade', i get No new release found. could someone tell me what i might be overlooking?
[21:22] <Iulia> Ok, will try so. Thanks again
[21:23] <ceblue> JMichaelX: add a switch to that; trusty wont count for upgrade until the .1 service release
[21:23] <k1l> phyzloc: you didnt rest unity or compiz
[21:23] <quadHelix> JMichaelX, I had to DL the 14.04 iso and perform an upgrade on 12.04.
[21:23] <wad> Yeah, that's it! Thanks!
[21:23] <phyzloc> k1l: How do I do that?
[21:23] <ceblue> JMichaelX: -d
[21:23] <k1l> phyzloc: and with reset i dont mean apt-get purge
[21:24] <phyzloc> k1l: My whole problem is unity.. can I reset that from console? since the gui doesn't work
[21:24] <JMichaelX> ahh
[21:24] <wad> And, for the curious, here is the answer: sudo /usr/lib/update-notifier/update-motd-updates-available
[21:24] <ceblue> quadHelix:  JMichaelX  `sudo do-release-upgrade -d`
[21:24] <k1l> phyzloc: doesnt work means what?
[21:25] <z1haze> Hi, can someone please help me out with adding a virtual host on my server? its already setup, someone had done it for me a long time ago, I just need to add another one, but I'm not sure how to do it
[21:25] <quadHelix> ceblue, ty sir.  I will tell the others in the shop
[21:25] <JMichaelX> so it is recommended to wait until the first point release.
[21:25] <JMichaelX> many thanks.
[21:25] <z1haze> the host files i believe are in the /etc/apache2/ there is /sites-available and /sites-enabled
[21:25] <phyzloc> k1l: I've had nvidia drivers problem where after installing it Unity and the whole window managment stoped working (I only see the background picture)
[21:25] <quadHelix> JMichaelX, no need to wait for point release
[21:26] <z1haze> i basically just copied the host files and edited it to make new ones, but in the sites-available folder, there is like symbolic links or something.. im not sure what its for
[21:26] <k1l> phyzloc: http://askubuntu.com/a/202020/31260
[21:26] <phyzloc> k1l: Since I can't get that to work I'm trying to revert back to default. Now even with default drivers I get the same behaviour
[21:26] <k1l> phyzloc: but that sounds more like a driver issue (not loading the driver etc) then a desktop issue
[21:27] <Daghdha> Why do my wired connections don't show up in Network Connections?
[21:27] <ailan> i have ubuntu 10.04 installed .... i have a problem with ubuntu 10.04 and the target: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG...  i do not have connection and don't recognition the interface..
[21:27] <phyzloc> k1l: Now I've configured Ubuntus drivers which I had from the begining. Unity still doesn't start up
[21:27] <phyzloc> k1l: What is that link? I can't click on it since I'm on console
[21:27] <k1l> phyzloc: 14.04?
[21:28] <phyzloc> k1l: yes
[21:28] <k1l> suao apt-get install unity-tweak-tool
[21:28] <k1l> *sudo
[21:28] <phyzloc> k1l: installed
[21:28] <k1l> and then "unity-tweak-tool --reset-unity"
[21:29] <trndr> !eol | ailan
[21:30] <k1l> phyzloc: did you make any attempts with startx so far? that could have ruined your file permissions. take a look at "ls -al " in your /home if all files belong to your user:user
[21:30] <phyzloc> k1l: the reset didn't help :-/ I'll check the files
[21:32] <phyzloc> k1l: with all files, you mean . and .. too?
[21:33] <k1l> no, . and .. can belong to root
[21:33] <phyzloc> k1l: then it's correct
[21:33] <k1l> phyzloc: is that a dual video card setup?
[21:33] <k1l> like nvidia and the intel one in the cpu?
[21:33] <Rug> serverhorror: http://paste.debian.net/101490/
[21:33] <phyzloc> k1l: when I installed nvidia drivers I ran nvidia-xconfig maybe that did something
[21:34] <z1haze> can someone please help me with virtual host on my server?
[21:34] <phyzloc> k1l: I've never used the internal one
[21:34] <k1l> phyzloc: so its a hybrid one?
[21:35] <k1l> phyzloc: you could remove the xorg.conf in /etc/X11/
[21:35] <phyzloc> k1l: don't know exactly what you mean but the motherboard has a built in card but I'm using and external nvidia card
[21:36] <k1l> phyzloc: ok.
[21:36] <Daghdha> Aha! apparently any interface managed in /etc/network/interfaces is not shown in the network settings in the GUI anywhere. 'Solved' :P
[21:36] <ceblue> phyzloc: if thats a desktop, you're ok, continue. if a laptop it's an optimus setup.
[21:36] <phyzloc> ceblue: it's a desktop
[21:36] <phyzloc> k1l: I don't seem to have xorg.conf
[21:36] <phyzloc> k1l: only see different backupts
[21:37] <phyzloc> *backups
[21:37] <k1l> ls -al /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesnt list
[21:37] <phyzloc> no
[21:37] <k1l> hmm
[21:37] <phyzloc> k1l: isn't that a surprise hehe
[21:38] <phyzloc> k1l: can it be regenerated?
[21:38] <k1l> try a "sudo apt-get purge nvidia*"
[21:38] <ceblue> can i set permissions that allow delete but not write. a user needs to manage a download folder by deleting undesired ones, but has no reason to be able to add or modify them
[21:39] <phyzloc> k1l: Ok, it removed bunch of nvidia files
[21:39] <k1l> good. then reboot
[21:39] <phyzloc> k1l: what about xorg.conf?
[21:39] <k1l> its not needed
[21:40] <phyzloc> ok.. rebooting
[21:40] <ceblue> i dpnt thonk it's possible with the regular permissipn system?
[21:41] <ceblue> sorry, using phone keyboard
[21:42] <phyzloc> k1l: It's the same thing :-/ After login I only see the mouse pointer and the background picture.. nothing else
[21:43] <Bundestrojaner> good evening
[21:43] <Bundestrojaner> When I create/modify /etc/asound.conf, what do i have to do to make the changes active?
[21:43] <phyzloc> k1l: I don't now how the GUI works but it feels like it's the window manager on top of X that is the problem
[21:43] <phyzloc> now/know
[21:44] <SonicPenguin> Bundestrojaner, i think sudo alsactl restore
[21:45] <SonicPenguin> or sudo alsa reload
[21:45] <k1l> phyzloc: hmm, then look at ".xsession-errors" if that brings something new
[21:47] <phyzloc> k1l: doesn't say much. Three lines starting with Script for ibus/auto/default
[21:47] <Iulia> Bye everyone! Have a great weekend
[21:48] <ceblue> There used to be a tool to minify a samba smb.conf for faster execution. I don't see mention of this in Trusty. Is this no longer required?
[21:49] <phyzloc> k1l: So the system thinks everything is ok
[21:49] <k1l> phyzloc: sorry i am not to familiar with further digging
[21:50] <phyzloc> k1l: Yeah.. I just don't like reinstalling the whole OS because of this :-/
[21:53] <Bundestrojaner> SonicPenguin: from alsactl --help, i guess reload is right.
[21:54] <Bundestrojaner> but it didn't work...
[21:54] <Bundestrojaner> Is there an error-log from alsa? or something similar
[21:54] <SonicPenguin> Bundestrojaner, restore or reload?
[21:55] <SonicPenguin> i think alsa reload si rightER
[21:55] <SonicPenguin> it restarts alsa completely
[21:55] <Bundestrojaner> i tried both
[21:55] <SonicPenguin> were the settings reloaded?
[21:56] <Moony22> What do people mean when they say unity is slow
[21:57] <Bundestrojaner> SonicPenguin: I've defined a LADSPA-Filter as virtual soundcard, like described here: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/.asoundrc
[21:57] <Bundestrojaner> but it doesn't apear in VLC, so it was not reloaded or my code doesn't work
[21:57] <Bundestrojaner> (for testing, i've just copied the code from the wiki)
[21:58] <Bundestrojaner> SonicPenguin: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/.asoundrc#Filter (this code)
[21:59] <phyzloc> k1l: You mentioned compiz before
[22:00] <SonicPenguin>   ok
[22:00] <ceblue> What does an 's' mean on file permissions? I see `drwsrwxr-x`.
[22:00] <SonicPenguin> Bundestrojaner, it was /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[22:00] <SonicPenguin> phew, 3 different commands to restart the same thing
[22:01] <k1l> phyzloc: dpkg-reconfigure compiz
[22:01] <Bundestrojaner> SonicPenguin: thx
[22:02] <SonicPenguin> np
[22:02] <Bundestrojaner> SonicPenguin: alsa-utils doesn't exist
[22:02] <Bundestrojaner> neither global nor in /etc/init.d
[22:02] <phyzloc> k1l: That gives me a list of things not found
[22:03] <phyzloc> k1l: backend, integration, plug-ins etc..
[22:03] <zykotick9> Bundestrojaner: alsa-utils is a package, i don't think it's an executable...
[22:03] <jrib> ceblue: setuid
[22:03] <k1l> phyzloc: hmm, dont know :/
[22:03] <phyzloc> k1l: can I reinstall compiz?
[22:04] <k1l> dont know. i think that is more drivers issue. missing 3d or something
[22:05] <SonicPenguin> i know, but it installs an init script name alsa-utils
[22:05] <SonicPenguin> named*
[22:05] <phyzloc> k1l: Allright.. I think I'll give up hehe thanks for you help!
[22:05] <SonicPenguin> try to install alsa-base and alsa-utils
[22:05] <lucas-arg> hey guys anyone knows how to tab windows in irssi?
[22:05] <Bundestrojaner> SonicPenguin: alsa-utils is already installed
[22:06] <Bundestrojaner> but: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart -> sudo: /etc/init.d/alsa-utils: command not found
[22:06] <phyzloc> lucas-arg: I use alt+win
[22:06] <phyzloc> lucas-arg: that is window number
[22:06] <SonicPenguin> Bundestrojaner, what ubuntu version?
[22:07] <lucas-arg> Bundestrojaner: sudo apt-get install alsa-utils alsa-base
[22:07] <SonicPenguin> which*
[22:07] <Bundestrojaner> SonicPenguin: Kubuntu 14.04
[22:07] <FaTony> hi, my 14.04 laptop freezes when waking from suspend, how to fix this?
[22:07] <zykotick9> SonicPenguin: you're right, i do have an alsa-utils in init.d... TIL
[22:08] <Bundestrojaner> lucas-arg: both is already installed
[22:08] <lucas-arg> Bundestrojaner: what are you trying to condifure?
[22:08] <Bundestrojaner> my target is upmix 2.0 -> 2.1
[22:08] <lucas-arg> phyzloc: that did the trick, how do i open a new window to enter a different server? so i dont have many terminals open
[22:09] <SonicPenguin> ok so
[22:09] <SonicPenguin> in debian package alsa-utils, this init script is present
[22:09] <SonicPenguin> but not in ubuntu one
[22:09] <Bundestrojaner> lucas-arg: but atm, i only copied the config from http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/.asoundrc#Filter to asound.conf to test it
[22:09] <zykotick9> lucas-arg: you are aware that irssi, can connect to multiple servers, with multiple channels in a single window right?
[22:10] <lucas-arg> zykotick9: i know dont know how to open a new windows thats all
[22:10] <SonicPenguin> reading the script, it actually does alsa restore <sound card>
[22:11] <SonicPenguin> so maybe you should do alsactl restore <sound_card>
[22:12] <SonicPenguin> restore <card #> load current driver setup for one or each soundcards from configuration file
[22:13] <Bundestrojaner> SonicPenguin: i found exaclty your last quote in alsactl --help
[22:13] <Bundestrojaner> SonicPenguin: but i tried alsactl restort and alsa reload - nothing worked
[22:13] <SonicPenguin> Bundestrojaner, i pasted from it lol
[22:14] <SonicPenguin> did you specify the sound card?
[22:14] <Bundestrojaner> no, i thougt not doing it reloads all?
[22:14] <SonicPenguin> well, it doens't say anything about that
[22:14] <SonicPenguin> so if it asks for the sound card, you should provide the sound card
[22:15] <SonicPenguin> in fact, in alsa-utils script, this command is in a for loop
[22:15] <SonicPenguin> because it accepts one card at time
[22:16] <Bundestrojaner> SonicPenguin: alsactl: load_state:1757: Cannot find soundcard 'lowpass'...
[22:16] <Bundestrojaner> alsactl: load_state:1757: Cannot find soundcard 'test'...
[22:16] <SonicPenguin> try with the number
[22:16] <Bundestrojaner> i don't know their number?
[22:16] <Bundestrojaner> where can i found a number of a virtuel soundcard?
[22:16] <Bundestrojaner> find
[22:18] <SonicPenguin> Bundestrojaner, aplay -l
[22:18] <superboot> Hi all. Is there a way to get a 'dpkg -L' type output from apt-cache?
[22:18] <SonicPenguin> it can be a card or a device
[22:19] <jrib> superboot: why?  What do you want to accomplish?
[22:19] <Bundestrojaner> SonicPenguin: none of them is in the list, but the title is "list of Hardware devices"
[22:19] <hyprvx> I'm trying to execute a .SH script, but it keeps opening in gedit. How can I make it actually execute?
[22:19] <jrib> hyprvx: what is this script for?
[22:19] <hyprvx> I've done chmod -x, and set it to "Allow Executing File as Program"
[22:19] <hyprvx> jrib, it's a visual novel
[22:19] <mitas> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 14.04 with an LVM Logical Volume that contains a RAID1 array. Using the mini iso the installer somehow fails to install it's bootloader after install. Using the Live CD, Ubuntu recognizes all my LVM volume except the one that I planned for my home drive.
[22:19] <jrib> hyprvx: +x not -x
[22:19]  * hyprvx facepalms
[22:19] <Luqman> Hi! I wanted to know if there any plans on fixing the whole situation with multiarch and -dev packages. Right now a lot of -dev packages end up conflicting i.e libxi-dev vs libxi-dev:i386
[22:19] <hyprvx> thank you jrib
[22:20] <SonicPenguin> superboot, if the package is not installed you should use apt-file
[22:20] <SonicPenguin> Bundestrojaner, none of your virtual devices?
[22:20] <genii> hyprvx: Does it have a shebang?
[22:20] <genii> Oh, they left now :-/
[22:20] <mitas> Luqman, probably not a question for this channel, try ubuntu-offtopic instead
[22:21] <superboot> SonicPenguin: Thanks!
[22:21] <AndChat|268400> mitas: see the ubuntu wiki raid guide for how to install onto a mirror
[22:21] <SonicPenguin> superboot, np
[22:21] <Luqman> mitas: ok thanks
[22:21] <Bundestrojaner> SonicPenguin: no, the file asound.conf didn't exist yet, i've created it...
[22:21] <Bundestrojaner> that's why i asked how to get alsa to read it
[22:22] <Bundestrojaner> maybe alsa didn't read the file yet
[22:22] <mitas> !raid | mitas
[22:22] <SonicPenguin> Bundestrojaner, ooh ok i get it now
[22:22] <hyprvx> After running chmod (yes, as sudo), it's still not executing, just opening gedit
[22:23] <zykotick9> hyprvx: try opening a terminal and running it...
[22:24] <SonicPenguin> try to reload every device anyway
[22:24] <hyprvx> It says "Permission denied"
[22:24] <SonicPenguin> every doc points at this alsa-utils initscript to reload asoundrc
[22:24] <genii> hyprvx: Does it have a shebang at the beginning of the file?
[22:25] <SonicPenguin> i think you will end up restart the pc lol
[22:25] <hyprvx> shebang?
[22:25] <AndChat|268400> hash bang #!
[22:25] <genii> hyprvx: Yes, it is that line you see that starts something like: #!/bin/bash
[22:25] <mitas> AndChat|268400, I read the Wiki, it mentions nothing useful about installer compatibility. Mind you, the RAID1-array is recognized after install, only during the install procedure I cannot get it to mount /home to that LVM volume.
[22:25] <hyprvx> the first line is #!/bin/sh
[22:25] <Bundestrojaner> SonicPenguin: this is not windoze^^
[22:25] <Bundestrojaner> and if the file didn't exist, i'm not sure if it won't be just ignored
[22:26] <Busybyeski> i just realized the default font is called Ubuntu.  it's pretty beautiful
[22:26] <SonicPenguin> Bundestrojaner, i know, but this is an extreme case
[22:27] <SonicPenguin> the file doesn't exist for sure
[22:27] <yuji> This Ubuntu help or no?
[22:27] <SonicPenguin> it's ubuntu packaging different from debian's
[22:27] <zykotick9> hyprvx: is this on a fat/ntfs partition?  if so, POSIX's executable bit will have no effect.  is it a bash/sh script or something else?
[22:27] <genii> hyprvx: What does ls -l  say for it?  eg: same owner as that trying to run it?
[22:27] <k1l> yuji: yes, this is the ubuntu support channel
[22:27] <Bundestrojaner> SonicPenguin: but i don't know anything better than rebooting. i asked in #alsa too, but noone answered. They should rename their channel to #afk
[22:28] <hyprvx> zykotick9: I'm not entirely sure, it's a Ren'Py package
[22:28] <SonicPenguin> Bundestrojaner, i told you, restart for this time
[22:28] <yuji> Ah. Well, any way I can remove all those dash plugins attempting "results" and fix audio being too low? Pulse audio works but the default snd control doesn't properly work.
[22:29] <SonicPenguin> then, when the devices are discovered, you can reload them as usual
[22:29] <AndChat|268400> mitas: are you usinf the server install iso?
[22:29] <chrissso> hey guys, I cant put files from /home into trash. only immediately delete. with files from /data its no problem. Why is that?? I dont get it?!?!
[22:29] <mitas> AndChat|268400, So I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place here. The Live CD installer recognizes all of my LVM volumes, except the one I intended to use as my home drive The Mini ISO recognizes my LVM setup, but fails to install Grub2 (works without problems on the LiveCD installer).
[22:29]  * yuji attempts to find a way to default to performance in cpu governor.
[22:29] <Bundestrojaner> SonicPenguin: i'll try it
[22:29] <hyprvx> genii: it's the same owner as the user
[22:29] <mitas> AndChat|268400, no, I'm using the Mini CD ISO, which should be sufficient for complex setups like mine.
[22:29] <chrissso> hyprvx: how do i check that?
[22:30] <chrissso> hyprvx: i have only one username/loginname
[22:30] <mitas> AndChat|268400, except it fails miserably on installing Grub2, rendering the system unable to boot...
[22:30] <hyprvx> chrissso: ?
[22:30] <AndChat|268400> mitas: The only time I have done it was with the server iso which is able to install onto a raid 1. I can't help with the mini ISO
[22:31] <chrissso> hyprvx: I dont know how to check the owner of a partition or directory
[22:31] <yuji> Anyone know how I can force ubuntu to always boot into performance mode instead of ondemand?
[22:31] <hyprvx> chrissso: ls -l AFAIK
[22:31] <genii> hyprvx: It's conceivable the "denied" message is it actually executing but  some element within the script is trying to do something to a file or location the user running it doesn't have permission for.
[22:31] <hyprvx> I tried running it as sudo
[22:32] <chrissso> hyprvx: ok its all the same name
[22:32] <genii> chrissso: Partitions are always owned by root, it gets set every boot in udev. If you chmod the root of a prtition it always reverts
[22:32] <mitas> AndChat|268400, thanks for the suggestion, but does the server ISO recognize LVM as well?
[22:32] <genii> chown, rather
[22:33] <yuji> Lovely support, no wonder Debian is the preferred distro. Quite frankly Ubuntu is appalling. *gutmann's method deleting Ubuntu*
[22:33] <AndChat|268400> mitas: Yes. And you could also setup the mirror *after* installation if you find that easier.
[22:33] <chrissso> if I check "ls -l" everything shows the same username
[22:33] <chrissso> so its all owned by me
[22:34] <Bundestrojaner> SonicPenguin: I've rebooted, neither aplay nor vlc lists more than the hardware-soundcards
[22:34] <SonicPenguin> Bundestrojaner, wow...
[22:35] <SonicPenguin> Bundestrojaner, im clueless now
[22:35] <Bundestrojaner> SonicPenguin: is there no error-log or something like that?
[22:35] <chrissso> where can I check if the /data and /home have different rights regarding deleteing files?
[22:35] <hyprvx> hiusuiDUIWDY
[22:35] <hyprvx> UASDJHUWHUIQHQR
[22:35] <hyprvx> UDGWGDWGWDGWEREG
[22:35] <hyprvx> GDIKXCBHZXF67TER
[22:35] <SonicPenguin> Bundestrojaner, yes, you can find boot time log in /var/log/syslog
[22:36] <z1haze> someone please help :( im trying to add another website to my dedicated box but i dont know how.. i see all the individual sites in /home/www/ but they are not file folders, they are reading as MS-DOS Applications.. how do i make those?
[22:36] <hyprvx> pardon me, a friend stole my laptop for a minutes
[22:36] <hyprvx> minte
[22:36] <hyprvx> minute*
[22:37] <Bundestrojaner> SonicPenguin: but their's no alsa-log?
[22:37] <z1haze> is there a better channel i can join to get help with a webserver on ubuntu?
[22:38] <mitas> AndChat|268400, if you know of a reliable way to clone a home drive to another volume and mount it instead of the initial /home partition, I will happily try it. both cp -Rp /home /homenew && vi /etc/fstab to substiitute the mappings for /home and /homenew and the rsync variant failed. The cp/ rsync action shows no error messages, but after restarting the system, any other user/group other than $USER and root will not be able to access the
[22:38] <mitas>  partition, i.e. Firefox can't write to the home drive and fails to start.
[22:38] <genii> z1haze: Possibly #ubuntu-server  ...?
[22:38] <SonicPenguin> Bundestrojaner, i dont think so
[22:38] <SonicPenguin> by the way syslog gathers quite a few logs
[22:38] <SonicPenguin> anyway, check yout /var/log folder
[22:39] <SonicPenguin> your*
[22:39] <mitas> AndChat|268400, if you know of a reliable way to clone a home drive to another volume and mount it instead of the initial /home partition, I will happily try it. both cp -Rp /home/* /homenew && vi /etc/fstab to substiitute the mappings for /home and /homenew and the rsync variant failed. The cp/ rsync action shows no error messages, but after restarting the system, any other user/group other than $USER and root will not be able to access t
[22:39] <mitas> he partition, i.e. Firefox can't write to the home drive and fails to start.
[22:40] <Bundestrojaner> SonicPenguin: maybe alsa is still built without ladspa-support and that's why my virtual soundcard is not created :(
[22:40] <mitas> ^sorry for repeat, the cp line was not complete
[22:40] <Bundestrojaner> but i have no idea how to check that
[22:40] <daftykins> mitas: do it from a liveCD / different user instead of from an active session maybe
[22:40] <SonicPenguin> Bundestrojaner, that's would be strange
[22:41] <SonicPenguin> Bundestrojaner, check if you miss some ladspa related packages
[22:41] <SonicPenguin> Bundestrojaner, i rember installing some packages just to acitvate a system wide equalizer
[22:42] <Bundestrojaner> SonicPenguin: the wiki where i found the filter-config says, the latest Ubuntu has alsa compiled without ladspa-support. but that was ubuntu 10.10
[22:44] <mitas> daftykins, performing the copy as another user would make no sense since that user will typically reside on the same home drive, except maybe from a remote system or indeed a LiveCD. Thanks for the hint.
[22:44] <Praxi> trying to boot up a server to the ubuntu server installation cd.    I have tried the same disk on a workstation and was succesful.
[22:44] <daftykins> mitas: it made sense to me in terms of not locking any /home content for that user :)
[22:45] <Praxi> Do I need to be trying to find some alternate installer, or mashing a key or anything?
[22:45] <SonicPenguin> Bundestrojaner, i dont know, trusty has some packages that contain ladspa plugins
[22:45] <SonicPenguin> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=trusty&arch=i386&searchon=names&keywords=ladspa
[22:45] <daftykins> Praxi: anything exotic about that system?
[22:45] <SonicPenguin> some maybe it is compiled with alsa support
[22:45] <Praxi> its an older server system with adaptec raid, nothing I would consider exotic daftykins
[22:46] <daftykins> how about the graphics hardware?
[22:46] <Praxi> some old xeons, 4gb memory if I recall
[22:46] <Praxi> just onboard, so intel
[22:46] <OerHeks> xeon without PAE ?
[22:47] <mitas> daftykins, not while cloning the *entire* home partition. doing so from another user on that system (except root) would garble the active user's home drive. I guess I can do it as true root, while in single user mode.
[22:47] <daftykins> mitas: single user mode doesn't exist
[22:47] <Praxi> not sure OerHeks
[22:48] <mitas> daftykins, not anymore? runlevel 1?
[22:48] <SonicPenguin> ladspa*
[22:48] <daftykins> ubuntu doesn't use runlevels
[22:48] <daftykins> Praxi: wouldn't hurt to try editing the boot parameters to watch kernel messages
[22:49] <Praxi> Should I be hitting a key somewhere to make that happen, or is that a modification of the files on the CD daftykins ?
[22:49] <mitas> daftykins, you are of course right, serves me right to try to tackle this situation with a general linux method using systemV
[22:51] <daftykins> mitas: recovery boot should work however :) dropping to a root shell
[22:51] <daftykins> Praxi: hmm not too familiar with the server boot menu from memory, but it may well have options there
[22:51] <Praxi> I never see the boot menu
[22:51] <Praxi> just goes to a blinking cursor
[22:51] <agnor> hello, can you guys help me? i'm trying to connect my laptop to TV via VGA to DVI on my new xubuntu 14.04 but i get no signal on my TV
[22:52] <Praxi> pop the disc and it works on a PC, so I know the disc is good, also tried replacing the dvd drive on the server to no effect
[22:53] <tbergman> Hi all.  What's the avai;ai;ity for a distro of ubuntu for a galaxy phone?
[22:53] <mitas> daftykins, I'm always keen on alternatives, I'll give it another try then
[22:54] <daftykins> !touch | tbergman
[22:54] <tbergman> thanks daftykins
[22:55] <daftykins> np
[22:55] <Busybyeski> i can't get java applets to work again. :( what do i need beyond the icedtea plugin?
[22:59] <Busybyeski> chrome://plugins doesn't show the icedtea plugin, how can i get them linked?
[23:00] <mitas> Busybyeski, did you install icedtea proper? The plugin won't be much use without it...
[23:01] <Busybyeski> icedtea java web start?
[23:01] <Busybyeski> it was working last week, now it appears not to be starting up with chrome
[23:01] <brainwash> Busybyeski: http://askubuntu.com/questions/470594/how-do-i-get-java-working-on-google-chrome-35
[23:02] <mitas> did you open chrome from a terminal, so you can see any errors that might appear while trying to launch your App?
[23:02] <Busybyeski> brainwash: bummer. thanks
[23:03] <Busybyeski> how can i lock upgrades?
[23:04] <Busybyeski> they broke both android chrome and ubuntu chrome for me in this 35 update
[23:08] <daftykins> Busybyeski: i wonder if that's something to do with the post which says chrome is starting to change compatibility when it comes to add-ons.
[23:08] <Busybyeski> daftykins: it looks like their change from gtk2
[23:17] <speaker1234> need help with getting a lsi 3ware 9750 card working
[23:18] <mitas> Is there any way I can switch the filesystem to full read/write mode when booting to a recovery terminal? I don't need training wheels.
[23:18] <DaveyG> Hi all,   I would like to learn the basics of linux, considering a college course if i have too. However i tend to learn best by trying stuff and breaking it. I guess i have a short atention span.  Any tips about what i should understand as a basis would be greatly recieved.
[23:18] <jimi_> My gnome is missing a menu that lets you lock/logout etc.. after dist-upgrade
[23:19] <daftykins> mitas: just remount / as rw
[23:19] <daftykins> !recovery
[23:19] <jrib> DaveyG: play and break inside a virtual machine
[23:19] <DaveyG> Anyone know how i can backup a ubuntu system via cli.
[23:19] <jrib> !backup | DaveyG
[23:19] <mitas> daftykins, the alternate Install CD does sadly not exist anymore...
[23:20] <jrib> DaveyG: but for playing and breaking just use a virtual machine and snapshots
[23:20] <daftykins> mitas: my bad, that bot trigger didn't have what i was after
[23:20] <mitas> daftykins, never mind, thank you for trying :-)
[23:20] <daftykins> mitas: mount -o remount,rw /
[23:21] <daftykins> ^in the root shell
[23:22] <enav> hello, if i create a local repository for a school with no internet, a kid install for example gimp from that local repo and then it connect to internet later, will this kid get updates from the ubuntu repos for that app??? or this app will only look for new versions on that local repo ???
[23:22] <mitas> daftykins, yes that works. it just seems silly that the default for the rescue system is to remote read-only, does anyone know the reason for that?
[23:23] <speaker1234> Figuring out how to make a 3ware 9750 card work?
[23:23] <speaker1234>
[23:23] <matju> If I need to troubleshoot whether a disk "read error" and random filesystem damage are caused by the CPU, the motherboard or the hard-disk's own board, how would I do that ? Is there some kind of CPU stress-test tool that can detect damage ? (I've already done a hd surface test and a RAM test)
[23:23] <mitas> daftykins, remote should be mount (spelling checker acting up)
[23:24] <daftykins> mitas: well, you know the old one about 'with great power comes great responsibility' ?
[23:24] <daftykins> mitas: anywho i'm afraid nobody policy setting lurks here so it's solely support ^_^
[23:25] <daftykins> speaker1234: ooh 3ware... i have several but not under Linux. what distro are you trying to use?
[23:25] <speaker1234> ubuntu 14.04
[23:25] <speaker1234> tring to set up a zfs array
[23:25] <DaveyG> I thought i would put this out there, ive been looking into vpns and ive found proxpn. seems very good. found it via the twit network. However if you use code AGTX40 you can get 40% off rather than 20.
[23:26] <mitas> daftykins, I know that saying, but imro. Rescue mode should be without training wheels. It should not be started by someone who doesn't know the command line
[23:27] <daftykins> ok, let's try to avoid the preaching in here though
[23:27] <speaker1234> What's weird is it sees the card but doesn't see any of the attached disks
[23:27] <daftykins> you can discuss policy in #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:27] <daftykins> speaker1234: have you created a unit yet?
[23:27] <mitas> daftykins, but I'll keep my inquiries focused on support questions from now on.
[23:27] <daftykins> good to hear :)
[23:28] <speaker1234> daftykins: Not going to. Using it strictly as a jbod
[23:29] <DaveyG> Gui's in my opinion should be avoided when it comes to linux.  Cli is a bit of a pain but after a little while you start to understand and from then you are much better off.
[23:30] <daftykins> speaker1234: right, but i think you have to specify single disks as JBOD in the controller firmware
[23:30] <daftykins> speaker1234: when you get the 3ware screen on bootup, do you see the message "3ware BIOS installed succesfully!" ?
[23:30] <speaker1234> I broke the raid set apart. That's not sufficient? It lists all of the drives as visible in the BIOS
[23:30] <enav> hello, if i create a local repository for a school with no internet, a kid install for example gimp from that local repo and then it connect to internet later, will this kid get updates from the ubuntu repos for that app??? or this app will only look for new versions on that local repo ???
[23:30] <speaker1234> no, it does not install the bios
[23:30] <daftykins> if not you're probably not going to see proper functionality, but i can't remember 100% as i don't JBOD on mine
[23:31] <daftykins> ok well go in and select a single disk and see what you can do with it
[23:31] <daftykins> i might be wrong but it's my best idea
[23:31] <LjL-Laplet> mitas: for a start, you don't mount read-write if you're starting a system so you can fsck it
[23:31] <speaker1234> it is better than my ideas :-)
[23:31] <nith1210> enav: yes.
[23:32] <nith1210> enav: He will get updates from the ubuntu repos.
[23:32] <speaker1234> k in bios now
[23:32] <enav> so repos are just list of sources and the updater will try to find the latest verrsion in the available sources right ?
[23:33] <speaker1234> i see all the drives
[23:33] <nith1210> enav: Yes.
[23:33] <Bashing-om> enav: The base of "updating" is from the "/etc/apt/sources.list" file. Whatever is set within this file determines where the updates cvome from.
[23:34] <nith1210> enav: Basically, grab all the sources, go fetch all their packages, concatinate the list and check for the highest version.
[23:34] <enav> interesting
[23:34] <enav> oh
[23:34] <mitas> LjL-Laplet, yes, that makes sense. I just miss old runlevel 1 where a couple of services might not be loaded, but the system itself is in a pretty normal state.
[23:34] <nith1210> enav: sorry, to clarify
[23:35] <LjL-Laplet> mitas: uhm well if you just don't want X to load, i think you can pass "text" to the kernel to achieve that
[23:35] <nith1210> enav: go fetch all of their "Packages" files, which are the list of packages that repository has and their versions.
[23:35] <enav> im between 3 beautiful mountains and internet here is limited, i would like to create a full copy of the ubuntu repo in english and spanish for this town, a lot of kids have laptops, what is the best approach i should try
[23:36] <daftykins> enav: it's huge, get shipped a disk of it
[23:36] <nith1210> enav: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors
[23:36] <enav> how much is huge
[23:36] <nith1210> enav: basically you're asking how to set up a Mirror, that page should tell you what you need
[23:36] <daftykins> hundreds of gigabytes
[23:36] <zykotick9> daftykins: i'm unaware the ubuntu makes the repo available on disks...
[23:37] <nith1210> enav: according to that page, 642GB as of 2013-04-04
[23:37] <daftykins> zykotick9: *they* don't
[23:37] <DaveyG> I would be more concerned about the hardware your installing it on, rather than the download size.
[23:37] <enav> i see
[23:37] <daftykins> zykotick9: also the company is called Canonical
[23:37] <enav> there is a way to only select some of the software and create a repo with those just easy?
[23:38] <enav> this is more like community service
[23:38] <zykotick9> daftykins: really?  Canonical you say... ;)  i'm well aware.
[23:38] <enav> i cant spend months on this
[23:38] <nith1210> enav: Yes, you can using apt-ftparchive and a bit of tweaking
[23:38] <daftykins> zykotick9: just teasing your inaccuracy ;)
[23:38] <speaker1234> nith1210: or apt-mirror
[23:39] <nith1210> speaker1234: can apt-mirror do partials?
[23:39] <speaker1234> yes
[23:39] <enav> i will research about those
[23:39] <zykotick9> enav: will this be a local connection to your mirror, or across the internet?  if it's local, check out apt-cacher-ng.
[23:39] <mitas> LjL-Laplet, that's not the same, runlevel 1 used to be single user mode, Oh well, never mind.
[23:39] <enav> it will be a local wifi connection
[23:39] <nith1210> speaker1234: awesome; enav: as speaker1234 says.
[23:39] <daftykins> i agree with the apt-mirror idea ^
[23:39] <daftykins> download once, share
[23:40] <speaker1234> daftykins: just found out that the 9750 will not do jbod
[23:40] <speaker1234> bfh.
[23:40] <daftykins> speaker1234: are you sure? that seems ridiculous
[23:40] <speaker1234> http://titan.physx.u-szeged.hu/opt/3ware/3DM2/help/en/3ware_Intro.2.6.html
[23:41] <nith1210> enav: Also, if you also have custom packages, I recommend mini-dinstall for those.
[23:42] <daftykins> speaker1234: are you sure that doesn't just mean that inside the BIOS it's called 'Single Disk' when you select one and say create?
[23:42] <speaker1234> This is really frustrating because I've got 16 4 GB drives and there's no way I'm going to raid them without ZFS level data integrity checking
[23:43] <speaker1234> I mean 4 terabyte drives
[23:43] <daftykins> wow you're foregoing the functionality of the 3ware and trying to just use the 3ware as a dumb SATA port extender?
[23:43] <daftykins> why on earth D:
[23:43] <speaker1234> daftykins: Because it's what I have and I don't have to buy anything else
[23:44]  * zykotick9 doesn't understand the hype around ZFS, but if you want to use that filesystem, i'd suggest an OS that supports it natively (and that can never be linux)
[23:45] <speaker1234> zykotick9: Read the research papers on ZFS and why it's very important. And it's already natively supported on Linux.
[23:45] <zykotick9> speaker1234: ZFS's restore reminds me a lot, of Windows feature - only at the file system level.  but i wouldn't use it with gnu/linux myself.
[23:46] <zykotick9> speaker1234: ZFS will NEVER be in the linux source...
[23:46] <Lingo____> kljkl
[23:46] <speaker1234> zykotick9: look deeper and Who cares if it's not in the Linux source. It's an independent package for multiple platforms
[23:47] <Tilo15> Hello, I was wondering if there was any way at all to get the latest Ubuntu touch on the 2012 Nexus 7
[23:47] <speaker1234> It's like saying bind is no good because it's not the Linux source
[23:47] <mitas> !touch | Tilo15
[23:48] <Lingo____> klkl
[23:48] <speaker1234> daftykins: Looking in the control information, it has 16 drives discovered but no active drives.
[23:48] <Tilo15> Thanks mitas, it says the nexus 7 2012 is deprecated. I was just wondering if there was any other way of getting the latest verson
[23:48] <Tilo15> *version
[23:49] <daftykins> speaker1234: don't you only have 4?
[23:49] <speaker1234> 16 4tb drives
[23:49] <speaker1234> and a drive bay good for another 60
[23:50] <mitas> Tilo15, the sources are there, you can cross-compile them for your particular system, but you do need a proper toolchain for the platform you are going to compile for.
[23:52] <speaker1234> daftykins: bleck.  I'm giving up for tonight.
[23:52] <daftykins> speaker1234: i'd be very curious to see that controller BIOS :)
[23:52] <Tilo15> mitas: Is there any help on how to do that?
[23:53] <daftykins> speaker1234: latest card BIOS i assume?
[23:53] <speaker1234> don't know
[23:53] <speaker1234> bios is be9x <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:54] <speaker1234> fw version fh9x <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:54] <daftykins> just visit the LSI site to find out
[23:55] <ikonia> got to make sure the card's bios is not to low/high for the kernel module
[23:56] <speaker1234> looks like i need to upgrade the bios
[23:56] <mitas> Tilo15, it should be explained in the README file that comes with the source, though not specific for your platform, just in general. You might find the tools and support linked on on xda-developers.com or some other similar place.
[23:57] <Tilo15> Thank you mitas, I'll have a look at that
[23:58] <speaker1234> all the code dates from 2012
[23:58] <ikonia> that's not a bad thing
[23:58] <ikonia> there is normally a range that the bios must be in for the kernel module
[23:58] <ikonia> too new/too old can be bad
[23:58] <ikonia> so don't do it blind
[23:59] <speaker1234> I probably need a new card for jbod support
[23:59] <ikonia> err n
[23:59] <ikonia> no
[23:59] <ikonia> a raid card that doesn't support jbod would be very very rare