[02:27] <guiverc> Bashing-om, you around?
[02:27] <guiverc> X.org servers (press), 2nd sentence reads as awkward to me, reads okay to you?  (in the release x 2 , and missing a comma I wonder)
[02:32] <guiverc> I suggest s/mitigating Retbleed.";/mitigating Retbleed";   (remove fullstop as sentence continues)
[02:32] <Bashing-om> guiverc: I be here - lemme see again what we did not do :P
[02:34] <guiverc> 2nd is in blogo; phoronix benchmarking
[02:35] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Yeah x.org reads ackward - lemme try again :(
[02:37] <guiverc> SCaLE, did you add ", including Ubuntu"... :)    (I don't recall that & i like it)
[02:39]  * guiverc read thru completed.. looks good
[02:44] <Bashing-om> guiverc: ", including Ubuntu" >> guilty - only reason I included that article in this issue :(
[02:45] <guiverc> not guilty - i think it IMPROVED the summary & reason for inclusion immensely.. I wish I'd have written that, but sure didn't recall writing it..
[02:53] <Bashing-om> guiverc: OK - see ow how the X.org summary reads - and by thge way - I was pleasantly surprosed that you came bacl and picked up on the SCaLe article. I came on some early to do that summary as I did not do it last night.
[02:55] <guiverc> I return check/complete when able; time/energy etc allow...
[02:55] <Bashing-om> ^ I got Ice Cream ! paying more attention to my spoon than to the monitor :P
[02:56] <guiverc> & thanks re: pleasantly suprised...   Ice Cream.. bit cold for that; I'm wishing I'd heated my apple juice...   Feel free to route some excess heat downunder :)
[03:04] <Bashing-om> guiverc: 107F here today - I will gladly make that exchange :P
[03:05] <guiverc> :)
[03:10] <guiverc> you didn't remove "." (retbleed); it doesn't worry you?
[03:11] <Bashing-om> guiverc: I remove the semi colon . lemme re-read :(
[03:12] <guiverc> otherwise it's s/that/That/ being after the "."  ... ie. fullstop was my issue
[03:13] <guiverc> yeah sorry my s/..../..../ was hard for non-machine to read ^
[03:16] <Bashing-om> guiverc: In my hazy memory - when we quote a full sentence then the closing period must be included within the quote mark. Maybe best if we make anither sentence as: The mitegation results in 14~39% overhead.
[03:16] <Bashing-om> another*
[03:17] <guiverc> we had different english teachers... we had no such requirement; in fact were discouraged from fullstops inside quotes; as english rules required we still have one in our own writing as well; ie "blah.".  which was bad as it looked untidy, easy fix was to not include "." in your quote...  different teaching
[03:19] <guiverc> yep another sentance voids the issue :)
[03:19] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Making it so :D
[03:24] <guiverc> thanks Bashing-om
[03:26] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Even a turd looks better polished :D
[19:51] <Bashing-om> UWN: Pulling "WIP" - no further edits are known - pushing soonest.
[20:13] <Bashing-om> UWN: Forum post done - doing the re-directs next.
[21:06] <Bashing-om> UWN: Re-directs also completed - line 77 hickup for the Fridge wrapper - Pending is release to the Social Medias as well as posting to the M/L.
[23:05] <guiverc> https://fridge.ubuntu.com/2022/07/18/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-744/
[23:05] <guiverc> (two links changed on fridge posts)
[23:09] <Bashing-om> Fridge: Spot check and all looks good :D
[23:09] <guiverc> tweeted uwn 744; posted to telegram..
[23:09] <guiverc> :) & thanks Bashing-om
[23:10] <guiverc> I think I see a 21.10 EOL ML notice too in my inbox; I closed my monitoring window on lists.ubu.. yesterday
[23:10] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Clear now to do away with our evidence ?
[23:10] <guiverc> yep scrub away
[23:11] <Bashing-om> IRT^:  < bdmurray> jbicha: There is a release team checklist item about updating osinfo-db for the end of life of Impish it also
[23:11] <Bashing-om>                   indicates that this is something which you do. Is that correct and if so can you do it?
[23:17] <guiverc> :|  went to lists.ubuntu.com/archi... nothing there, refresh & it appears; so i have https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2022-July/000281.html now
[23:18] <guiverc> I'll massage it for fridge post in a an hour or two (mild headache I don't want worse...)
[23:18] <guiverc> I've NOT yet pasted uwn 744 to fb... (if I do 21.10eol; that can be posted in same login/session)
[23:22] <Bashing-om> guiverc: FB - I see no need for speed - when you can :D
[23:23] <Bashing-om> UWN: We do issue745.
[23:30] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: The Fridge: Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 744 @ https://fridge.ubuntu.com/2022/07/18/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-744/


[11:31] <darklight_> Are there plans to fix the hotcorners functionality in 14.04 ? currently hotcorners can be set and work but stop working after every reboot/log out
[15:09] <darklight_> Are there plans to fix the hotcorners functionality in 14.04 ? currently hotcorners can be set and work but stop working after every reboot/log out
[17:31] <jincreator> `bzr branch ubuntu:trusty/unity` show error message below. Can anyone point me out what's wrong with this command?
[17:31] <jincreator> bzr: ERROR: Revision<EMAIL_ADDRESS>not present in "Graph(StackedParentsProvider(bzrlib.repository._LazyListJoin(([CachingParentsProvider(None)], []))))".
[21:01] <xnox> use lp:unity
[23:39] <leejohn> hey guys i’m fairly new here, can I ask a question please?
[23:40] <leejohn> all of our users’s their home directory is mounted on NFS and I found out that any previous users loggin on the system ubuntu remember it as a result multiple concurrent connection to established to NFS server as a result, NFS server load goes high my question is how can I disable that unity remember the previous users loggin on the system.


[07:53] <GeorgeTorwell> Hello. bazhang quieted me for no reason. bazhang is a known troll from #defocus who abuses op powers constantly, can we deop him please? Its not appropriate to have him in charge of a channel where we want to project a friendly and positive atmosphere for ubuntu users
[07:53] <GeorgeTorwell> Also i need to be dequieted to ask a question.
[07:55] <jussi> hey GeorgeTorwell. I assume you are talking about #ubuntu? What did you say just before the quiet?
[07:56] <GeorgeTorwell> yes, #ubuntu
[07:56] <GeorgeTorwell> I believe I was inquiring into whether bazhang had been abusively quieting people and who opped him in the first place, since a lot of people are complaining about him in both #ubuntu and #defocus
[07:58] <jussi> GeorgeTorwell: yeah, youll likely get a quiet for that, as it is offtopic for that channel (it belongs here). I can't help you with that anyway, as I dont have op rights there, so youll have to wait until someone with rights comes along
[07:58] <GeorgeTorwell> ok
[08:01] <k1l> GeorgeTorwell: hi
[08:01] <k1l> GeorgeTorwell: you know your behaviour was not appropriate for the #ubuntu support channel
[08:01] <GeorgeTorwell> k1l: hi
[08:02] <GeorgeTorwell> k1l: I didnt know. But I wasn't warned, bazhang quieted me after I left. And I find it inappropriate for bazhang to be the one to quiet someone asking about his op abuse.
[08:02] <k1l> no
[08:03] <k1l> when you join a channel you accept the !guidelines and they do say where the  right place is to talk about your concerns. there is a bad intention in you joining #ubuntu and saying "<GeorgeTorwell> does anyone know why bazhang was appointed to op this channel?" right after joining.
[08:04] <Myrtti> background you might not be aware of is that bazhang has been an op of this channel for years.
[08:04] <Myrtti> well, #ubuntu, that is
[08:04] <k1l> besides you are known to be trolling in other ubuntu channels like #ubuntu-women
[08:05] <GeorgeTorwell> that was ages ago
[08:05] <GeorgeTorwell> because I found the concept sexist and offensive
[08:05] <GeorgeTorwell> and it wasnt bad itentions
[08:05] <k1l> so i dont see your "good intentions" in your action you did and i will not remove the quiet.
[08:07] <GeorgeTorwell> there is an email of people complaining about bazhang in #ubntu
[08:07] <GeorgeTorwell> just unquiet me, I need to ask a question
[08:07] <Myrtti> and what question is that?
[08:08] <GeorgeTorwell> something about network-manager
[08:08] <k1l> GeorgeTorwell: no, that is not how it works. you cant roll and if you need support its all fine. take the consequences of your actions.
[08:09] <k1l> GeorgeTorwell: maybe you want to try the ubuntuforums or askubuntu.com for a new start in a support community.
[08:09] <GeorgeTorwell> I didnt troll.  I know you fail at life and this is your only chance to feel like you have power, but you'd better unquiet me right now if you know what's good for you. I can join the channel in any number of ways. You have no power, you are just a pawn.
[08:10] <GeorgeTorwell> @ k1l
[08:11] <Myrtti> and you think that actually helps you?
[08:11] <Myrtti> seriously?
[08:11] <GeorgeTorwell> Sometimes it helps to remind people that irc does not change their irl status
[08:11] <k1l> GeorgeTorwell: that doesnt make it better :/ it just proves my point in not removing the mute since you say you wnat not to follow the !guidelines, code of conduct and freenode policies
[08:11] <GeorgeTorwell> unfriendly antisocial neckbeards should be using arch, not ubuntu.
[08:12] <Myrtti> !appeals
[08:12] <GeorgeTorwell> who is the channel founder of #ubuntu
[08:13] <jussi> The ubuntu IRC council, who is mentioned in the appeal process ;)
[08:13] <Myrtti> Ubuntu IRC council is responsible for it, and you can find the contacts in the link on the previous factoid
[08:13] <GeorgeTorwell> just unquiet me for 5 minutes so I can ask my question
[08:17] <PriceChild> Wow. GeorgeTorwell what's going on today?
[08:19] <GeorgeTorwell> PriceChild: bazhang quieted me in #ubuntu for investigating allegatins of op abuse he carried out in the channel and I need to be unquieted to ask a question.
[08:19] <PriceChild> GeorgeTorwell: I was more shocked by some of the things you just wrote in this channel... I'm surprised!
[08:20] <GeorgeTorwell> PriceChild: sometimes the truth can be shocking.
[08:40] <PriceChild> @btlogin
[09:11] <niko> k1l: a better mask is *!*@gateway/tor-sasl/georgetorwell
[09:12] <k1l> niko: hmm, yes
[12:09] <IdleOne> Myrtti: I know you can't confirm (least i don't think so) but if ~jack@unaffiliated/jack is that j4jack kid he is ban evading in #ubuntu
[12:10] <IdleOne> ns info suggests I am wrong
[12:16] <Myrtti> yes well you are right
[12:16] <Myrtti> in that I can't confirm
[12:16] <Myrtti> or deny
[12:24] <Pricey> IdleOne: If he's not being a dick then we all win.
[12:25] <IdleOne> Pricey: true
[13:07] <Pici> ahaha
[13:12] <Pici> http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/10/how-the-bible-and-youtube-are-fueling-the-next-frontier-of-password-cracking/3/
[13:15] <IdleOne> our logs are being mined :/
[13:28] <Pricey> Awesome.
[13:46] <DJones> Hope the person who wanted their nick/comments expunged from all logs doesn't read that article
[13:46] <IdleOne> lol
[14:14] <Pici> !no !lococuncil is <reply>The LoCo Council is coolbhavi, costales, jose, SergioMeneses, skellat and PabloRubianes - they are there to help, just ask! :) You can send them an email at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[14:14] <Pici> !no lococuncil is <reply>The LoCo Council is coolbhavi, costales, jose, SergioMeneses, skellat and PabloRubianes - they are there to help, just ask! :) You can send them an email at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[14:14] <Pici> !no lococouncil is <reply>The LoCo Council is coolbhavi, costales, jose, SergioMeneses, skellat and PabloRubianes - they are there to help, just ask! :) You can send them an email at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[14:14] <ikonia> wow - loco council coolbhavi......
[14:14] <ikonia> someone who basically gamed his way into membership and tried to plagurise someone elses work as his own....ends up on the loco council
[14:15] <ikonia> this "community" dissapoints me more each day
[16:12] <bazhang> * [lolol] (~root@<IP_ADDRESS>): root
[16:12] <ikonia> yup
[16:12] <bazhang> he's been doing that for several times a day now
[16:13] <ikonia> python V pascal ?
[16:13] <ikonia> that specific question
[16:13] <bazhang> not just those two
[16:13] <ikonia> $ V $
[16:13] <bazhang> ruby vs. python
[16:13] <bazhang> yep
[16:13] <ikonia> great,
[16:13] <ikonia> another time waster
[16:56] <jpds> http://i.qkme.me/3trz9o.jpg
[17:59] <Myrtti> "thanks gartral"
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> ok reporting query from #ubuntu
 lousy nigger
 fucking bithc
 fuckin fagit
[18:02] <IdleOne> errr
[18:02] <IdleOne> ok we get the picture.
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> tnx
[18:05] <DJones> I'm quite comfortable that that user shouldn't be on freenode, they've been banned in ##linux & are taking personal issues into other channels
[18:22] <ikonia> and yet he's still in the channel after sending that abuse to a random user of the channel
[18:24] <k1l> i think his behaviour and the report of pm abuse would satisfy a remove from the ubuntu channels, too
[18:25] <ikonia> he's been like this for a long time,
[18:35]  * Pricey looks in
[19:29] <Pricey> Assuming nobody else saw anything apart from his msoffice+wine/iceweasel+ubuntu madness...?
[19:30] <k1l> he got a ubuntu-women entry which shows his attitude quite well
[19:30] <k1l> *bantracker entry
[19:31] <ikonia> he's been a problem for approx 2 weeks that I'm aware of, however after his last racist and homophic abuse attack, he's been on topic and mostly polite
[19:32] <Pricey> He's been a prat in /msg with me for a couple of weeks.
[19:34] <ikonia> ah, so you've had reason to discuss with him too
[22:18] <popey> 23:18:13 <Solo_in_Casa> Salve Fanciulla!!!
[22:18] <popey> is pm'ing people on join, just booted from -uk
[22:18] <popey> just fyi
[22:19] <IdleOne> they were doing it in #ubuntu earlier and got banned


[09:29] <fleurtherock> hi
[09:30] <fleurtherock> Merry Christmas
[09:46] <ldunn_> well that was nice
[18:29] <hyperair> jussi, elky: ping.
[18:30] <hyperair> i'd like to sort things out between #lubuntu and the ircc. i recall there being some conflict of sorts, but i'm not really clear on what's going on. is there anything i can do to resolve this? (as founder of the #lubuntu channel)
[21:34] <jussi> hyperair:  We are no longer on the ircc - there is a bit of a transistion happening at the momnet and I suggest you wait approximately a week for the noe council to be installed and take up duties
[21:34] <jussi> s/noe/new


[05:39] <zus> hi
[08:34] <RoAkSoAx> itnet7_uds: ping
[09:28] <RoAkSoAx> itnet7_uds: ping
[13:01] <danstoner> jtatum: the only time someone talks to me in this channel is when they really want dantalizing.  ;)
[13:04] <RoAkSoAx> itnet7_uds: ping
[13:06] <munz> good morning danstoner
[13:06] <munz> just breaking the cycle, lol :)
[13:06] <danstoner> Thanks.  :)
[13:07] <munz> no prob
[13:23] <itnet7_uds> away
[16:23] <tiemonster> mhall119: ping
[16:56] <zoopster> tiemonster: good luck...he's gmt +2 right now....
[16:58] <tiemonster> zoopster: where?
[16:58] <zoopster> tiemonster: budhapest, hungary...for uds
[16:59] <tiemonster> oh. guess I'll catch him later. he gets back next week?
[17:01] <zoopster> yup
[17:17] <tiemonster> zoopster: ok. thanks!
[17:20] <jamalta> hi all
[17:53] <tiemonster> jamalta: hey!
[17:53] <tiemonster> when do you get into town?
[17:53] <jamalta> tiemonster: how's it going?
[17:53] <tiemonster> good
[17:53] <jamalta> uhm, let me look at the calendar :)
[17:53] <jamalta> two weeks from today
[17:53] <tiemonster> hacking on a asynchronous Python application server atm
[17:53] <jamalta> oh, i made a team event for monday night, in two weeks at stardust
[17:54] <jamalta> If you could make it to that... if not we can arrange something else :)
[17:54] <tiemonster> hmm
[17:54] <tiemonster> I'll have to see what I can do
[17:54] <tiemonster> May 29th?
[17:54] <jamalta> 30th
[17:55] <tiemonster> lol. yeah.
[18:07] <mhall119> wow, it's tiemonster
[18:07] <mhall119> haven't seen you around in a while
[18:07] <tiemonster> I've emerged from a four month coding project that consumed all of my time
[18:08] <tiemonster> it was fun, but I hope I never have to do it again (work with college students)
[18:08] <mhall119> that's a lot of coding
[18:08] <tiemonster> anyways, I'm working with a colleague on a wicked fast Python application server
[18:08] <mhall119> so, half the Florida loco is gmt+2, the other half is gmt-9
[18:09] <mhall119> tiemonster: sounds interesting, using some existing thing like twisted?
[18:09] <tiemonster> using a non-blocking C++ application server called Yield
[18:09] <mhall119> non-blocking servers are cool things
[18:09] <tiemonster> parses HTTP way faster than something like Apache
[18:10] <tiemonster> and allows for some really interesting concurrency options
[18:10] <mhall119> ok, I'm interested, will it be open source?
[18:10] <tiemonster> it is already
[18:10] <mhall119> even better
[18:10] <tiemonster> working on a 2.0
[18:10] <tiemonster> you get async without having to deal with crappy python callbacks like in Twisted
[18:10] <tiemonster> and it's about 6 times faster than Twisted
[18:11] <tiemonster> at least
[18:11] <tiemonster> we don't have really good benchmarks yet
[18:12] <tiemonster> the best part is, you can say `ypy -p [port] [wsgi script]` and get a production quality WSGI server
[18:14] <tiemonster> so you could use it as your Django dev server, except it can handle 10,000 concurrent requests ;-)
[18:15] <tiemonster> and it does hot code reloading, except on the whole codebase, instead of just the wsgi file
[18:15] <tiemonster> so... we need alpha testers
[18:20] <tiemonster> and he's gone.
[18:21] <tiemonster> :-(
[19:39] <jamalta> tiemonster: interesting, how do you monitor for file changes/
[19:39] <jamalta> ?
[19:39] <jamalta> or is the code reloading a manual command?
[19:48] <jamalta> yield is pretty interesting
[19:48] <jamalta> ty for sharing :)
[20:42] <tiemonster> jamalta: sorry - I was in a meeting
[20:42] <jamalta> tiemonster: np
[20:42] <tiemonster> it uses os-level notifications and fires off a callback
[20:43] <tiemonster> the code is here if you want to play around with it: https://github.com/ypy/ypy
[20:43] <tiemonster> I'll announce it on Twitter when a stable release candidate is ready
[20:43] <tiemonster> we need lots of alpha testers in the mean time, though
[20:44] <jamalta> tiemonster: cool :)
[20:44] <jamalta> hm, i don't really have anything to put on it :\
[20:44] <tiemonster> and if you have a Python app you want us to test, please pass it along
[20:44] <jamalta> zeitgeist-project is wordpress now, and my site is on tumblr..
[20:44] <tiemonster> what about that media server?
[20:45] <jamalta> tiemonster: I could play with getting pandamon on it.. currently using Twisted.
[20:45] <tiemonster> oh yeah. perfect use case.
[20:45] <tiemonster> just expose a wsgi adapter, and off you go
[20:45] <jamalta> Hm,... I don't use wsgi though.
[20:46] <tiemonster> it should just be a matter of changing the way you catch incoming requests
[20:46] <tiemonster> I think Twisted is wsgi-compliant...
[20:47] <jamalta> tiemonster: I'll look at it when I have some time, and see if it is something that I could use.
[20:47] <tiemonster> is the code on github or something?
[20:48] <jamalta> tiemonster: Launchpad
[20:48] <jamalta> www.launchpad.net/pandamon-server
[20:48] <tiemonster> link?
[20:48] <tiemonster> cool. I'll take a look.
[20:48] <jamalta> I should start working that a bit more, since Android is going to support HTTP Live Streaming soon :).
[20:48] <tiemonster> :-)
[20:48] <jamalta> The main drawback for me has been the lack of support from the browsers, which has improved since I last worked on this.
[20:50] <jamalta> tiemonster: I'll try it out this weekend.. I have to work on actually using HLS instead of pushing video over a long HTTP connection.
[20:50] <tiemonster> HLS?
[20:52] <jamalta> HTTP Live Streaming
[20:52] <jamalta> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_Live_Streaming
[20:52] <tiemonster> cool
[20:52] <jamalta> tiemonster: I'll play with it this weekend and let you know what I think :)
[20:52] <tiemonster> sure. thanks!
[20:53] <tiemonster> I'll be working on getting a web site up with some code samples, etc.
[20:53] <jamalta> tiemonster: So what's the proper pronunciation of ypy?
[20:54] <tiemonster> I call it "y-py (Why Pie?)" but my colleague calls it "yippee!"
[20:55] <tiemonster> The name is derived from "Yield for Python"
[20:55] <tiemonster> yield is the non-blocking C++ application server at the core
[20:55] <tiemonster> we've talked about adapters for PHP et all
[20:55] <tiemonster> we'll see
[20:55] <tiemonster> PHP is a beast
[20:57] <jamalta> tiemonster: Forget about PHP :P
[20:57] <tiemonster> this from the guy who works at Flickr..
[20:57] <jamalta> yippee is what I naturally thought to call it.
[20:57] <tiemonster> coding PHP...
[20:58] <jamalta> ;)
[20:58] <jamalta> That doesn't mean I care for PHP.
[20:58] <tiemonster> heh
[20:58] <tiemonster> he calls it "Yippee, I don't have to install Apache!!!"
[20:58] <jamalta> Hehe
[20:58] <tiemonster> which, Google uses it, so it must not be crap
[20:59] <tiemonster> but if we can make a better alternative, then great!
[22:36] <mhall119> darn, tiemonster is code
[22:36] <mhall119> I can't get ypy to properly run django
[23:47] <faf> guys
[23:47] <faf> a baby fell down 10 stairs and lived
[23:48] <faf> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQ6dpQ9yQFc


[11:57] <sudip> can anyone please mark LP: #2055426 as affecting Noble and Mantic
[11:57] -ubottu:#ubuntu-bugs- Launchpad bug 2055426 in busybox (Ubuntu) "busybox wget with https crashes" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2055426
[21:01] <hggdh> sudip: done, thank you
[21:01] <sudip> thanks hggdh


[02:37] <crimsun> anyone around for an artwork question? I've e-mailed the creator of the b-m-p skin at https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/869 and am awaiting a response. Is there protocol for replacing the default non-free skin for b-m-p, or should I just shove it in with the next upload?
[02:38] <crimsun> Apologies if this isn't the correct channel for such discussion; I assumed artwork changes need to be approved through some committee.
[12:24] <klepas> moin
[01:30] <klepas> anyone awake?


[00:02] <zul> hallyn,  ack
[09:44] <ibrahim> hello there, I have a ubuntu server and osticket is installed on it, I want from osticket to send email notifications and for this I have installed postfix but I am not receiving emails.
[09:54] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:55] <NAoH> Hey can anyone give me some help with my server?
[09:56] <lordievader> !ask | NAoH
[09:56] <ibrahim>  hello there, I have a ubuntu server and osticket is installed on it, I want from osticket to send email notifications and for this I have installed postfix but I am not receiving emails.
[09:59] <NAoH> I'm trying to set up a LAMP stack. It's on a fresh copy of 14.04, apache is severing, however the websites are only available on other computers in the local network, not via the public IP.
[10:00] <NAoH> I am pretty sure port 80 is forwarded correctly
[10:01] <bekks> NAoH: So what happens when you try to access your site from outside (notfrom inside using the public ip)?
[10:01] <NAoH> "connection refused"
[10:02] <lordievader> NAoH: What is the output of 'nmap -p 80 <public-ip>'?
[10:02] <bekks> NAoH: Are you really trying from outside your network?
[10:03] <NAoH> installing nmap now
[10:03] <NAoH> I'm accessing it via a computer on the local network, with the public IP in the url
[10:04] <bekks> That not going to work.
[10:04] <bekks> You need to access it from _outside_ your network.
[10:04] <NAoH> Nmap:
[10:04] <NAoH> Starting Nmap 6.47 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2015-06-06 10:04 UTC Note: Host seems down. If it is really up, but blocking our ping probes, try -Pn Nmap done: 1 IP address (0 hosts up) scanned in 3.06 seconds
[10:04] <bekks> See above.
[10:05] <lordievader> NAoH: If you have an ip for me I could check for you.
[10:05] <NAoH> Just connected to it via a computer outside of the network, it's defo down
[10:05] <NAoH> <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:05] <NAoH> don'thackmeplz
[10:06] <lordievader> Port 80 is filtered.
[10:08] <NAoH> http://i.imgur.com/YWuNcIU.png
[10:08] <NAoH> do the confs look correct?
[10:09] <lordievader> NAoH: I suppose, does 0.13 run a firewall?
[10:10] <NAoH> well ubuntu is a fresh install, I don't think it comes with prohibitive settings out of the box
[10:11] <NAoH> i'll check through my router. Hosting an Apache server on my windows desktop worked fine. I was able to connect from remote computers
[10:12] <bekks> It comes with prohibitive settings by default :)
[10:13] <NAoH> Good old ubuntu, always has my back haha
[10:13] <NAoH> I tried turning ufw off completely to experiment, is that enough?
[10:13] <NAoH> (because that didn't work)
[10:14] <bekks> Whats the output of "sudo lsof -i | grep apache"?
[10:14] <NAoH> server@UnixServer:~$ sudo lsof -i | grep apache apache2  1067     root    4u  IPv6  15797      0t0  TCP *:http (LISTEN) apache2  1070 www-data    4u  IPv6  15797      0t0  TCP *:http (LISTEN) apache2  1071 www-data    4u  IPv6  15797      0t0  TCP *:http (LISTEN)
[10:14] <lordievader> !paste | NAoH
[10:14] <NAoH> thanks
[10:15] <NAoH> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11602601/
[10:16] <lordievader> It does listen to ipv4 ports right?
[10:16] <RoyK> lordievader: it was only one line ;)
[10:16] <bekks> No, it doesnt listen to IPv4 at all.
[10:16] <lordievader> RoyK: According to his paste, it were 3 lines. My point exactly.
[10:17] <NAoH> No problem, i'll use the paste site for CLI outputs
[10:17] <RoyK> !pastebinit
[10:20] <NAoH> Any idea where I should go from here?
[10:20] <bekks> Configure your webserver to listen to IPv4.
[10:23] <RoyK> sometimes lsof etc only shows the ipv6 socket open, but it may be listening to ipv4 on the same socket. lots of software do just that
[10:23] <RoyK> try to telnet to <IP_ADDRESS> <port> to check
[10:27] <RoyK> (not 'localhost', because that may mean both <IP_ADDRESS> and ::1)
[10:28] <NAoH> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11602639/
[10:28] <NAoH> Maybe i entered it in wrong?
[10:29] <RoyK> microsoft telnet?
[10:29] <RoyK> what's the server's ip address?
[10:29] <RoyK> also - better login to the linux server and try from there - to localhost - to see if that works first
[10:29] <RoyK> in case a firewall or something stops it
[10:33] <NAoH> I think it worked
[10:34] <NAoH> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11602670/
[10:34] <NAoH> That's from my ubuntu machine, running telnet to itself at port 80
[10:36] <NAoH> I should explain, I have 2 computers on my network. Linux "server machine" and Windows. The windows machine is a development platform and I want to learn to set up a server so I can experiment with writing web applications.
[10:37] <NAoH> So the linux server will simply be a LAMP server that I just send my web app projects to, and can access on the web.
[10:38] <NAoH> in other words. I'm a little slow to catch up with all of the linux stuff
[10:38] <NAoH> but it's cool as hell
[10:55] <RoyK> NAoH: you connected to ::1 there - try "telnet <IP_ADDRESS> 80"
[10:56] <NAoH> ok
[10:57] <NAoH> Connected no problem
[10:57] <RoyK> good
[10:57] <RoyK> then from windows - telnet into the server's ip address, port 80
[10:58] <bekks> IPv4 address.
[10:59] <RoyK> NAoH: do you have a valid IPv6 address on that linux server?
[10:59] <linuxmint> # blkid
[10:59] <RoyK> linuxmint: ?
[10:59] <linuxmint> Can anyone help me understand and/or fix my disks? I have 4 disks http://dpaste.com/1NAQ2WT, but shows only 1 55GB mounted, but I have no 55GB http://dpaste.com/3GJF8AX, only 120GB?
[11:00] <NAoH> RoyK: I don't know, how do I find out?
[11:00] <bekks> linuxmint: You are using Mint, dont you? :)
[11:00] <RoyK> NAoH: pastebin ip addr list
[11:00] <linuxmint> bekks: this computer is Mint, but my disks issue is using Ubuntu server.
[11:01] <bekks> linuxmint: fdisk isnt recognizing the GPT labels, so use gdisk -l, at first glance.
[11:02] <RoyK> linuxmint: pastebin lsblk output
[11:02] <NAoH> RoyK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11602793/
[11:02] <RoyK> NAoH: nah - no ipv6 there - just a link local address
[11:03] <NAoH> RoyK: How do you mean?
[11:03] <linuxmint> bekks: http://dpaste.com/382PCZQ
[11:03] <RoyK> inet6 fe80::21b:78ff:fe84:823/64 scope link <-- fe80::... is link local
[11:04] <linuxmint> RoyK: http://dpaste.com/0S92EJJ
[11:04] <RoyK> linuxmint: what's on those 120GB drives?
[11:04] <NAoH> Royk: How do I set that up?
[11:05] <linuxmint> RoyK: I installed Proxmox and I thought I set up a RAID on the 4 x 120GB disks, but I don't think it's working?
[11:05] <RoyK> NAoH: don't care about that now - if your ISP hasn't supplied you with IPv6 or your network hardware doesn't support it, it's of little use except experimentation
[11:06] <RoyK> linuxmint: try mdadm --assemble --scan
[11:06] <linuxmint> RoyK: http://dpaste.com/0J17BYS
[11:07] <RoyK> what drives did you use for the raid?
[11:07] <linuxmint> RoyK: I thought I used the 4 x 120GB, but maybe it didn't setup properly.
[11:08] <RoyK> if all 120GB drives, then you might have slightly broken it by installing ubuntu on one of them :P
[11:08] <linuxmint> The issue is a monthly backup took place and filled the disk (says 92% of 55GB?) and now I'm trying to fix the disks.
[11:09] <RoyK> I'd guess trying a manual assembly might work if it's fixable
[11:09] <RoyK> what does /proc/mdstat have to say?
[11:09] <linuxmint> What's a manual assembly? pulling out cables?
[11:10] <RoyK> linuxmint: mdadm --assemble /dev/md{something} /dev/{your,drives}
[11:10] <linuxmint> http://dpaste.com/3SE6N7C
[11:10] <NAoH> RoyK: Do I have to allow the ports via iptables?
[11:10] <RoyK> linuxmint: cat /proc/mdstat
[11:10] <RoyK> NAoH: obviously, yes
[11:10] <RoyK> NAoH: I'd recommend using ufw if you don't need anything special
[11:11] <linuxmint> http://dpaste.com/2WQ7A6E
[11:11] <NAoH> RoyK: Damn, that's not obvious to me. I only just figured out iptables exsisted. What would the command to allow port 80 through?
[11:11] <RoyK> linuxmint: ok - try something like this - mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 /dev/sd[bcd]3
[11:12] <RoyK> NAoH: pastebin iptables -vnL
[11:12] <RoyK> NAoH: if nothing's blocked, no need to open
[11:12] <NAoH> RoyK: Nothing is blocked, fresh install of ubuntu
[11:13] <RoyK> and telnet <yourip> 80 from windows tells you what?
[11:13] <NAoH> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11602840/
[11:13] <linuxmint> http://dpaste.com/1SN680A
[11:13] <RoyK> linuxmint: not sure, then...
[11:13] <NAoH> RoyK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11602840/**
[11:14] <RoyK> NAoH: all accepted - iptables isn't the issue
[11:14] <RoyK> linuxmint: any data there you haven't backed up?
[11:15] <linuxmint> pretty much all of it, as the backup overfilled the disk, so I had nothing to transfer to a 2nd safe computer.
[11:16] <RoyK> linuxmint: better use something like crashplan.com (or something faster?) next time. a raid isn't backup. it just helps you whenever a disk dies
[11:17] <linuxmint> yes, that's why I had RAID setup. I then auto transferred the backups to a 2nd computer, but due to disk overfill, no backup or transfer.
[11:17] <RoyK> linuxmint: just one thing - looks like you have four 120GB drives where linux is installed on one of them, and then a 500GB drive that's not in use
[11:18] <linuxmint> yes, it's a mess somehow.
[11:19] <RoyK> linuxmint: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1947275
[11:19] <RoyK> some of that might work, but it may also ruin what's left
[11:19] <linuxmint> is this the right link? https://www.code42.com/crashplan/
[11:19] <RoyK> yep
[11:19] <linuxmint> k
[11:20] <RoyK> linuxmint: crashplan.com is ok, but make sure you disable deduplication - if not, it renders more or less worthless when you get closer to 1TB of data
[11:21] <RoyK> I moved to crashplan.no - norwegian reseller with local servers - *far* faster, but a bit more expensive
[11:22] <RoyK> linuxmint: I hope that data isn't too valuable :P
[11:22] <linuxmint> RoyK: I can rebuild the whole lot, but it will take a while. I woudl prefer not to. there must be a way of seeing what the error is and working it?
[11:23] <RoyK> usually --assemble should work
[11:23] <RoyK> but if it can't find the superblock, you'll have to try to recreate it with --assume-clean in which you'll need the correct order and layout of the raid
[11:25] <linuxmint> k, sounds tricky. I'll work through that link 1st.
[11:25] <RoyK> linuxmint: never had to do that myself - only tried it in the lab - been using mdraid for some years (10+), though, without much issues
[11:32] <linuxmint> k, hopefully this is the problem. I think if I just empty the disk a bit, I could run a backup.
[11:33] <RoyK> linuxmint: If you can access the data, get it off to somewhere, maybe crashplan, maybe elsewhere. Then recreate the RAID somewhat more sane. You have four 120GB drives - perhaps using these ones in a RAID-5 could do, with the root on a small partition the 500GB drive or perhaps even on a pendrive
[11:33] <RoyK> ?
[11:38] <linuxmint> yes, I just finished installing CrashPlan.
[11:39] <RoyK> what sort of raid layout did you have before this crashed?
[11:40] <linuxmint> I can't remember.
[11:41] <linuxmint> It seems I didn't setup a RAID according to the # mdadm --assemble --scan command.
[11:41] <RoyK> what does pvs tell you?
[11:42] <RoyK> may have been some lvm raid
[11:42] <RoyK> or proxmox? zfs?
[11:42] <linuxmint> http://dpaste.com/2W5AEA0
[11:42] <RoyK> I saw something about zfs being supported
[11:43] <RoyK> linuxmint: So you installed proxmox and setup a RAID and then reinstalled with ubuntu, right?
[11:43] <linuxmint> Yes, I'm a bit confused now, as I started looking at how to fix up the backups, with either Proxmox ZFS or NAS4Free.
[11:43] <linuxmint> Now I'm working through CrashPlan, so I have 4 options in my head.
[11:43] <RoyK> never mind backup until you can access the data
[11:43] <linuxmint> k
[11:43] <RoyK> zfs isn't installed by default on ubuntu
[11:44] <RoyK> there's fuse zfs, ok for reading and getting data off the drives, but sucks at i/o, and there's zfsonlinux, separate repos
[11:44] <linuxmint> I tried to install zfs, but I don't think I succeeded.
[11:44] <RoyK> I use zfsonlinux, but wouldn't recommend it if you need flexibility, as in adding another drive to increase storage
[11:44] <linuxmint> It might be installed, but not configured.
[11:45] <RoyK> try 'zpool status' and 'zpool import'
[11:46] <RoyK> actually, the partition layout looks like zfs
[11:46] <RoyK> (or perhaps not)
[11:47] <RoyK> anyway - does zpool status has anything to say?
[11:47] <linuxmint> -bash: zpool: command not found
[11:47] <RoyK> apt-get install zfs # or something
[11:47] <RoyK> debian-zfs, perhaps
[11:47] <RoyK> that's the fuse zfs - should do
[11:48] <RoyK> at least, it should show you if something's there
[11:48] <linuxmint> -bash: debian-zfs: command not found
[11:48] <linuxmint> I guess not installed.
[11:48] <RoyK> apt-get install zfs-fuse
[11:48]  * RoyK had to check on an ubuntu box
[11:48]  * RoyK usually uses debian on servers these days :P
[11:50] <linuxmint> k, # zpool status. no pools available.
[11:51] <RoyK> zpool import
[11:52] <linuxmint> yes, # zpool import. # zpool status. no pools available.
[11:53] <RoyK> no output from zpool import?
[11:53] <linuxmint> yes, no output.
[11:53] <RoyK> perhaps zpool import -D ?
[11:54] <RoyK> (without the ?)
[11:54] <linuxmint> yes, also no output.
[11:54] <RoyK> ok - then I have no idea where your data went
[11:55] <linuxmint> yes, the data is still there as it's running.
[11:55] <RoyK> oh
[11:55] <RoyK> then get it off the drives
[11:56] <RoyK> and reinstall on something sane :)
[11:56] <linuxmint> lol
[11:56] <linuxmint> lol/cry
[11:57] <RoyK> no reason to cry if you can still access the data
[11:59] <RoyK> if someone can lend you a portable drive, say 1TB, that'll probably be the easiest - crashplan tends to be slow
[11:59] <linuxmint> yes, but not sure if I can get the data off the drive, as the disk says 92% of 55GB. That means I can't run a backup. I think I'll need to look for the data (a vz file), then scp or something?
[12:00] <RoyK> I don't quite follow you
[12:00] <linuxmint> well, I setup a 2nd computer with NAS4Free, but haven't figured it out yet.
[12:00] <RoyK> you didn't have anything on that RAID?
[12:00] <RoyK> those 50GB shouldn't be a problem
[12:01] <linuxmint> well, the RAID apparently doesn't exist. There's the data of a few VMs I'll need to file where they're at.
[12:02] <RoyK> kvm? virtualbox? xen?
[12:05] <linuxmint> I think it's a kvm.
[12:06] <RoyK> then /var/lib/libvirt/images/
[12:07] <linuxmint> http://dpaste.com/0XX9DD8
[12:09] <RoyK> no libvirt there - don't you even know which hypervisor you were using?
[12:10] <linuxmint> I need to look it up.
[12:12] <linuxmint> Proxmox vE
[12:12] <linuxmint> VE
[12:13] <RoyK> no idea
[12:13] <linuxmint> k
[12:13] <RoyK> I'd suggest you start over - your data may be busted
[12:17] <linuxmint> hmm, I might look for the files of the VMs atleast, so I don't have to rebuild the VMs.
[12:17] <linuxmint> Really 4 x 120GB Intel SSDs should be as reliable as it gets.
[12:24] <RoyK> thing is, you've installed ubuntu on one of them, not the 500GB drive
[12:24] <RoyK> so you've possibly messed up the raid
[12:25] <linuxmint> likely.
[12:29] <RoyK> if you were to reinstall, I'd suggest doing so on the 500GB drive and using the SSDs for a RAID-5, giving you 360GB
[12:29] <RoyK> should suffice on iops for even large databases
[12:29] <RoyK> and you never want to trust a single drive, at least not an SSD
[14:14] <NAoH> Hey
[14:14] <NAoH> any idea why my apache server will broadcast to the web on port 8080 but not 80 when my windows server will broadcast to 80?
[14:16] <bekks> Because you configured it like that?
[14:16] <bekks> Apache doesnt broadcast at all.
[14:16] <NAoH> I'm probably using the wrong terms
[14:18] <NAoH> But I spent the last day trying to figure out why I couldn't access the website on my freshly installed ubuntu + lamp through my public IP. I had port 80 forwarded and everything, I just set apaches listening port to 8080 and I could access my IP with :8080 after the IP
[14:19] <Patrickdk> consult the firewall
[14:20] <Patrickdk> this includes any firewalls your isp is using
[14:20] <NAoH> According to the ISP, they aren't blocking any ports
[14:21] <NAoH> I don't think ubuntu-server has a firewall that blocks port 80 by default, right?
[14:22] <bekks> Belief is a good thing for a church, how about checking your firewall to be sure?
[14:26] <Patrickdk> "I had port 80 forwarded and everything" == firewall
[14:26] <Patrickdk> so that is atleast one firewall we know about
[14:26] <Patrickdk> did you have apache on port 80?
[14:26] <melbaubuntu> Hey guys i have setup my vsftpd server and now i would like to organize my index.php/html.php with filezilla. Anyone any ideas how and where to locate it?
[14:26] <Patrickdk> and forwarded your firewall correctly to port 80?
[14:27] <melbaubuntu> i mean index.php/index.html
[14:55] <NAoH> bekks: How do I check my firewall?
[14:57] <bekks> How did you until now?
[15:01] <NAoH> # iptables -L
[15:04] <bekks> iptables -L -vnx
[15:06] <NAoH> There are no arguments in any of the fields
[15:31] <jpds> NAoH: sudo iptables-save
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[06:24] <lordievader> Good morning
[11:34] <ripper17> hi all - is there a PPA with QT 5.6.2 for Kubuntu 16.04 LTS ?
[11:35] <ripper17> I found "stable-phone-overlay" PPA, is that suitable for desktop?
[11:36] <hateball> ripper17: you might want to ask in #kubuntu-devel I guess
[11:37] <hateball> 5.6.1 is the latest I have, running Kubuntu PPA
[11:37] <ripper17> tanks, will try
[11:37] <hateball> I suppose this is related to your inquiry in #plasma :)
[11:38] <ripper17> yes :-)
[11:39] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
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[14:03] <BluesKaj> !pt | VendedorDeCouve
[23:04] <likemindead> Had to get rid of baloo. Was using up all my meager resources. Loving Kubuntu otherwise.
[23:05] <likemindead> Any other tips? Old Lenovo 3000 N100 laptop.


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[08:04] <johnc4510> .
[15:55] <NCommander> afternoon all, I'm trying to update the Ubuntu Mobile fridge calendar item, but I can't seem to find where it was published from, can someone assist me?
[15:58] <tyche> I'm not sure I understand the question.  The only calendar I know about is the Google calendar that's attached to the Fridge for upcoming events.
[15:59] <tyche> The one at http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar
[16:00] <nhandler> NCommander: It says it was created by John Crawfod
[16:00] <tyche> If you mean update the event for Mobile Team Meeting for Thursday, August 20, then I can help you.
[16:00] <nhandler> *Crawford
[16:00] <NCommander> tyche, right, that's the one. We had an entry for it being on Tuesday
[16:00] <NCommander> It moved back to Thursday and the Tuesday entry was deleted
[16:00] <NCommander> I'm not sure what happened
[16:05] <tyche> All right.  Let's start at the top, then.  You want it for Tuesday.  What time on Tuesday?
[16:08] <tyche> NCommander: You want it for Tuesday.  What time on Tuesday?
[16:08] <NCommander> tyche, 13:00 UTC
[16:10] <tyche> OK, it's switched.  Now, do you happen to post an agenda to a wiki page?
[16:13] <tyche> NCommander: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[16:14] <NCommander> tyche, yes I do
[16:14] <tyche> If you give me the link, I can add the information to the calendar.  That way it will get posted in the UWN when I extract the information on Sunday morning.
[16:15] <tyche> Otherwise, I have to put in "None listed as of publication".
[16:20] <NCommander> tyche, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting
[16:21] <tyche> Got it.    Thanks
[16:22] <tyche> (And I know, because I'm the one that types them up)
[16:22] <tyche> "And thank you for flying with the Ubuntu Weekly News editors and the Fridge editors."  Hee hee