[12:35] <ubotu> New bug: #141103 in kubuntu-meta (main) "KDE doesn't display text any more" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141103
[12:41] <ubotu> New bug: #141106 in ubuntu "No way to get Network-Mangager back after clicking manual configuration" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141106
[01:00] <ubotu> New bug: #141107 in gnome-panel (main) "sleep occurs rgardless of settings & will not re-enter" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141107
[01:15] <ubotu> New bug: #141109 in grub (main) "grub doesn't boot windows from a non-first disk" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141109
[01:20] <ubotu> New bug: #141110 in compiz (main) "bad handling of gnome-terminal when font size is increased" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141110
[01:20] <ubotu> New bug: #141111 in ubuntu "Once I upgrade my to kernel <IP_ADDRESS>, wireless don't work." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141111
[01:30] <ubotu> New bug: #141112 in totem (main) "VLC and RealPlayer fake plugins not compiled" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141112
[01:36] <ubotu> New bug: #141113 in totem (main) "[Gutsy]  Totem video progress bar gets stuck" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141113
[01:46] <ubotu> New bug: #141114 in guarddog (universe) "Guarddog icon is not in Gnome menu" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141114
[01:56] <ubotu> New bug: #141115 in xorg-driver-synaptics (main) "[gutsy-regression]  scroll feature no longer works after recent update" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141115
[02:00] <ubotu> New bug: #141116 in ubuntu "acer travelmate 2420 keyboard borked on suspend resume" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141116
[02:46] <ubotu> New bug: #141118 in xorg-server (main) "[gutsy]  cursor endian problem" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141118
[02:51] <ubotu> New bug: #141119 in xorg-server (main) "[gutsy]  X locks on console switch on powerbook" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141119
[02:55] <ubotu> New bug: #141120 in evolution (main) "omg insane evolution plugin overload!!" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141120
[02:55] <ubotu> New bug: #141121 in compiz-fusion-plugins-main (main) "Please turn off the "Dogde" effect by default" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141121
[03:26] <ubotu> New bug: #141124 in ubuntu "audio loop dv6000z" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141124
[03:26] <ubotu> New bug: #141125 in ubuntu "Can't download or install programs--get error message: dpkg didn't run." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141125
[03:26] <ubotu> New bug: #141126 in gdebi (main) "Wrong "Conflicts with the installed package"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141126
[04:21] <ubotu> New bug: #141127 in ubuntu "[gutsy tribe 5]  aptitude reports "no candidate version found" for selinux packages listed as available in search" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141127
[04:26] <ubotu> New bug: #141128 in apparmor (main) "wrong apparmor profiles path" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141128
[04:31] <ubotu> New bug: #141129 in klear (universe) "klear parse error" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141129
[04:50] <ubotu> New bug: #141130 in compiz (main) "compiz stop working after 17-Sept-2007 updates" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141130
[05:11] <ubotu> New bug: #141131 in compiz (main) "application switcher too distracting" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141131
[05:21] <ubotu> New bug: #141133 in ltsp (main) "E1000 driver for  (8086:10c0) device on LTSP" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141133
[05:35] <ubotu> New bug: #141135 in audacious-plugins (universe) "[gutsy]  mp3 decoder missing" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141135
[06:01] <ubotu> New bug: #141136 in compiz (main) "Suddenly unable to use Desktop Effects" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141136
[06:01] <ubotu> New bug: #141137 in linux-meta (main) "package linux-restricted-modules-generic <IP_ADDRESS>.13 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141137
[06:01] <ubotu> New bug: #141138 in displayconfig-gtk (main) "[gutsy]  Resolution autodetection regression on nvidia with digital flat panel." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141138
[06:16] <ubotu> New bug: #141139 in nautilus-python (universe) "nautilus-python shuts down immediately after initializing" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141139
[06:16] <ubotu> New bug: #141140 in evolution (main) "Combine calendars for palm sync" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141140
[06:21] <ubotu> New bug: #141141 in openoffice.org (main) "no funciona el corrector ortografico automtico al escribir" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141141
[06:21] <ubotu> New bug: #141142 in totem (main) "Buffering indicator in Totem" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141142
[06:26] <ubotu> New bug: #141143 in lyx (universe) "menus appear on wrong screen" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141143
[06:51] <ubotu> New bug: #141144 in gnome-panel (main) "Programs are not appearing in bottom bar" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141144
[07:07] <ubotu> New bug: #141145 in evolution (main) "impossible de supprimer un email dans "boite d'envoi"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141145
[07:32] <dholbach> good morning
[07:56] <ubotu> New bug: #141150 in liferea (main) "add search based on feed source" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141150
[07:56] <ubotu> New bug: #141151 in tracker (main) "tracker-extract crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141151
[08:01] <ubotu> New bug: #141149 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "Latest gutsy update broke compiz on nvidia cards" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141149
[08:05] <ubotu> New bug: #141153 in meta-gnome2 (universe) "Cannot save a web page to USB device" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141153
[08:10] <ubotu> New bug: #141154 in update-manager (main) "partial upgrade fails" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141154
[08:15] <ubotu> New bug: #141155 in liferea (main) "crash modifying search folder" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141155
[08:30] <ubotu> New bug: #141158 in liferea (main) "feed names are sometimes reset" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141158
[08:35] <ubotu> New bug: #134069 in restricted-manager (restricted) "Should point to Ubuntu web site with driver explanations" [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134069
[08:55] <mkorn> good morning
[08:56] <dholbach> hey thekorn
[08:57] <ubotu> New bug: #141160 in vino (main) "When remote desktop access is disabled, vino-session will still run" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141160
[08:58] <thekorn> hey dholbach
[09:03] <dholbach> thekorn: good work on both branches
[09:04] <dholbach> thekorn: I'm just testing it a bit, then do a 0.2.19 upload
[09:04] <thekorn> dholbach: super, thanks
[09:05] <dholbach> then I can move the sponsoring thing to people.u.c :)
[09:08] <dholbach> thekorn: uploaded
[09:15] <dholbach> thekorn: ok... no python-libxml2 on people.u.c - need to talk to the sysadmins :)
[09:16] <thekorn> ...or a better /+text ;)
[09:17] <dholbach> right... I'll try to prod all LP people about 'api' bugs again :)
[09:25] <ubotu> New bug: #141162 in grandr (universe) "Gnome starts with inverted rotation" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141162
[09:25] <ubotu> New bug: #141163 in qrfcview (universe) "No subsections in Table of Contents" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141163
[09:30] <ubotu> New bug: #141164 in desktop-effects (main) "Desktop effects could not be enabled since latest updates" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141164
[09:36] <ubotu> New bug: #141165 in gutenprint (main) "Regression: Can't print on CD, inserted in CD-tray with Canon ip4000 printer (on Feisty)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141165
[09:36] <ubotu> New bug: #141166 in liferea (main) "scary output when run from command line" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141166
[09:50] <ubotu> New bug: #141167 in libcrypto++ (universe) "Trying to install the amule-csv version, an error message said me thta libcrypto++6 package is not installable" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141167
[09:51] <ubotu> New bug: #141168 in coreutils (main) "/bin/kill not compatible with redhat/opensuse" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141168
[10:01] <ubotu> New bug: #141169 in kmplayer (main) "kxineplayer crashed with SIGSEGV in xine_event_dispose_queue() (dup-of: 122593)" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141169
[10:01] <ubotu> New bug: #141170 in nautilus (main) "thumbnail borders not shown anymore" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141170
[10:05] <ubotu> New bug: #141171 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  tritium" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141171
[10:31] <ubotu> New bug: #141173 in gnome-panel (main) "Onscreen keyboard in gnome comes up and won't go away, no matter what I try..." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141173
[10:36] <ubotu> New bug: #141174 in alsa-driver (main) "bump alsa-driver-1.0.13-3ubuntu1 >= alsa-driver-1.0.14_rc3" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141174
[10:50] <ubotu> New bug: #141178 in clearlooks (universe) "clearlooks keep cxrashing" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141178
[10:50] <ubotu> New bug: #141179 in desktop-base (main) "when i plug in my Panasonic Mp3 player it gets recognized as a Digital Audio Player but when i double click on it it says Unable To Mount: Theirs probably no media in the drive. however when i plug it in an XP system its recognized instantly." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141179
[11:05] <ubotu> New bug: #141180 in f-spot (main) "Cannot import any images (import error)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141180
[11:15] <ubotu> New bug: #141182 in listen (universe) "Listen is not recognized by gnome-default-applications-properties" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141182
[11:21] <ubotu> New bug: #141183 in nautilus-cd-burner (main) "Doesn't detect CD Burning Devices" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141183
[11:31] <ubotu> New bug: #141184 in acpid (main) "acpid install crashes" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141184
[11:41] <ubotu> New bug: #141186 in freetype (main) "freetype: subpixel rendering disabled again" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141186
[12:00] <ubotu> New bug: #141193 in ubuntu "Lot of Tangerine icons in KDE are missing" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141193
[12:00] <ubotu> New bug: #141194 in ubiquity (main) "No warning if available diskspace is less than needed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141194
[12:11] <ubotu> New bug: #141198 in gaim (main) "Offline messages come with incorrect encoding." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141198
[12:21] <ubotu> New bug: #141201 in pidgin (main) "Pidgin IRC Color/Bold Codes Broken" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141201
[12:26] <ubotu> New bug: #141203 in ubuntu "USB Netac Flash Issue to mount  " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141203
[12:31] <ubotu> New bug: #140867 in dpkg (main) "aptitude crashed with SIGSEGV in _strstrip() (dup-of: 140739)" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/140867
[12:40] <ubotu> New bug: #141204 in xchat (universe) "[translation]  errors in french translation of xchat" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141204
[12:55] <ubotu> New bug: #141205 in ubuntu "Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection (rev 05), stopt working after an gusty update 9/20" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141205
[01:05] <ubotu> New bug: #141207 in ubuntu "black horizontal bar covering 25% of screen as soon as gnome display manager starts up" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141207
[01:11] <ubotu> New bug: #141208 in thunderbird (main) "Lighting add-onn does not function on TB 2.006 in Gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141208
[01:25] <ubotu> New bug: #141210 in compiz (main) "can not change the number of workspaces" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141210
[01:30] <ubotu> New bug: #141211 in evolution (main) "IMAP folder subscription should affect subfolders" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141211
[01:35] <ubotu> New bug: #141212 in j2se1.4-i586 (multiverse) "j2re1.4 etc cannot be installed non-interactively, which breaks buildds" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141212
[01:45] <ubotu> New bug: #141214 in ubuntu "network-admin problems on gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141214
[01:59] <pedro_> morning
[02:01] <ubotu> New bug: #141216 in rhythmbox (main) "Rhythmbox crashes after changing song" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141216
[02:06] <ubotu> New bug: #141217 in partman-auto-loop (main) "Human message when an existing installation is detected" [Low,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141217
[02:31] <ubotu> New bug: #141218 in redhat-cluster-suite (main) "gulm packages aren't built" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141218
[02:35] <ubotu> New bug: #141219 in ubuntu "[gutsy tribe 5]  selecting "open link" from gnome-terminal only works if firefox is already launched" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141219
[02:35] <ubotu> New bug: #141220 in pidgin (main) "pidgin 2.2.0 Segmentation fault" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141220
[02:46] <Hobbsee> bug 134220
[02:46] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 134220 in malone "Bug page has no information about current package version" [High,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134220
[02:51] <ubotu> New bug: #141221 in kernel-package (main) "framebuffer doesn't work on gutsy kernel" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141221
[02:56] <ubotu> New bug: #141222 in ubuntu "desktop gnome not appears" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141222
[03:06] <ubotu> New bug: #141225 in fslint (universe) "[Sync Request]  Please sync fslint 2.24-1 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141225
[03:06] <ubotu> New bug: #141226 in nautilus (main) "Pushing Backspace moves to parent directory but also beeps" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141226
[03:11] <ubotu> New bug: #141227 in openoffice.org (main) "blurry openoffice.org menu icons" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141227
[03:15] <ubotu> New bug: #141230 in mozilla-firefox-locale-all (main) "need Ukrainaian(uk_UA) packaged" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141230
[03:15] <ubotu> New bug: #141231 in evolution-exchange (main) "Evolution to exchange calender update bug" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141231
[03:15] <ubotu> New bug: #141232 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  jukebox3D" [Undecided,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141232
[03:16] <ubotu> New bug: #141229 in ubuntu "Blurry Synaptic and Software Sources icons" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141229
[03:20] <ubotu> New bug: #141233 in network-manager (main) "MASTER network-manager crashes when wpasupplicant ctrl socket is not available" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141233
[03:25] <ubotu> New bug: #141234 in network-manager (main) "when updating the network-manager, network connections fail" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141234
[03:32] <ubotu> New bug: #141223 in gdebi (main) "Bug in gdebi translation" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141223
[03:41] <ubotu> New bug: #141235 in rhythmbox (main) "Crashing when new (just unpacked) iPod shuffle player is connected" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141235
[03:44] <unggnu> hi all
[04:00] <ubotu> New bug: #141237 in disksearch (universe) "Beagle and Find files not working!" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141237
[04:08] <elmargol> Bug #141247
[04:08] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 141247 in linux-source-2.6.22 "nforce 430 doesn't work on gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141247
[04:10] <ubotu> New bug: #141240 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "System hard-locking. Kernel crash?" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141240
[04:10] <ubotu> New bug: #141241 in evolution (main) "evolution 2.12.0 needs the password for POP on every start" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141241
[04:10] <ubotu> New bug: #141242 in evolution (main) "Evolution crashes when trying to sync from Groupwise server" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141242
[04:10] <ubotu> New bug: #141243 in update-manager (main) "upgrade from feisty to gutsy update-manager 0.59.24 error: NameError: global name 'os' is not defined" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141243
[04:15] <ubotu> New bug: #141244 in gaim (main) "Simple but very annoying usability bug on smileys " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141244
[04:15] <ubotu> New bug: #141245 in gnome-panel (main) "compiz don't work properly" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141245
[04:15] <ubotu> New bug: #141247 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "nforce 430 doesn't work on gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141247
[04:15] <ubotu> New bug: #141248 in ubuntu "screen and graphics preferences doesn't quite work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141248
[04:25] <ubotu> New bug: #141250 in liferea (main) "liferea crashes when trying to view popup" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141250
[04:30] <ubotu> New bug: #141254 in ubuntu "black tooltips" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141254
[04:46] <ubotu> New bug: #141259 in compiz (main) "gutsy regression: compiz no longer starts on GeForce4 MX 440" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141259
[04:47] <bddebian> Boo
[04:51] <ubotu> New bug: #140900 in evince (main) "evince-thumbnailer crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/140900
[04:51] <ScottK> bop
[04:55] <ubotu> New bug: #141262 in ubuntu "Installing Ubuntu 7.04 and 7.10 tribe 5, can't start X becouse of X1300" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141262
[05:16] <ubotu> New bug: #141265 in ubuntu "[gutsy]  gnome login in to a black screen" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141265
[05:17] <ubotu> New bug: #141264 in ubuntu "odd, "jumpy" behavior with Macbook, touchpad and mouse button" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141264
[05:34] <slytherin> thekorn: ping
[05:34] <thekorn> slytherin: pong
[05:35] <slytherin> thekorn: I am getting internal error when trying to use ppaput. Here is backtrace, http://pastebin.com/m67a8fc6f
[05:36] <thekorn> looking
[05:36] <ubotu> New bug: #141269 in nautilus (main) "nautilus stoping responding then opening directory witch contains 1600 photos. After update 16 Sept. " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141269
[05:36] <ubotu> New bug: #141270 in deskbar-applet (main) ""You must have at least one <locale> entry in a <schema>"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141270
[05:40] <ubotu> New bug: #141271 in gparted (main) "Partitioning Programm/Gparted does'nt work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141271
[05:40] <ubotu> New bug: #141273 in thunderbird (main) "thunderbird-bin crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141273
[05:41] <thekorn> slytherin: hmm, this seems to be an launchpad error,
[05:41] <slytherin> thekorn: do you know the cause?
[05:42] <thekorn> slytherin: let me read the ppaput source...
[05:43] <ubotu> New bug: #141267 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-11-generic <IP_ADDRESS>-11.4 failed to install/upgrade: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141267
[05:45] <ubotu> New bug: #141266 in ubuntu "SCIM cannot name files in Chinese" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141266
[05:45] <ubotu> New bug: #141276 in yelp (main) "No links off 'Help' 'Advanced Topics' page work (gutsy)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141276
[05:50] <thekorn> slytherin: LP raises this error when the data is wrong, that does not seem the case, or it has temporary problems,
[05:50] <thekorn> did you try it some times
[05:50] <ubotu> New bug: #141148 in gnome-panel (main) "cant install nvidia drivers" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141148
[05:50] <ubotu> New bug: #141176 in gnome-panel (main) "my mouse was uncontroled" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141176
[05:51] <slytherin> thekorn: Yes. Got it second time also. But that could be because I tried to upload same package again.
[05:51] <slytherin> thekorn: Will debug tomorrow. Now leaving for home.
[05:52] <thekorn> ok, feel free to file a bugreport against py-lp-bugs
[05:52] <slytherin> thekorn: I will, when I try to upload a new package next time and get same error.
[05:55] <ubotu> New bug: #141279 in xfce4-places-plugin (main) "xfce4-places-plugin crashed with SIGSEGV in g_closure_invoke()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141279
[05:55] <ubotu> New bug: #141280 in ipod-sharp (universe) "new version available" [Wishlist,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141280
[05:55] <ubotu> New bug: #141281 in pidgin (main) "Pidgin + myspace im = freeze" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141281
[05:57] <slytherin> thekorn: Can the problem related to the fact that I am using edge.launchpad.net?
[05:57] <thekorn> slytherin: im also using edge.lp.net, just tried to add a comment to a bug and it worked
[05:58] <slytherin> thekorn: Ok. I will try it tommorow. Too tired now. :-(
[06:05] <ubotu> New bug: #141282 in update-manager (main) ""update-manager -d" wants to replace totem-gstreamer by totem-xine" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141282
[06:05] <ubotu> New bug: #141283 in gutsy-wallpapers (main) "gutsy-wallpapers package description is "Feisty Wallpapers"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141283
[06:06] <ubotu> New bug: #141284 in kdebase (main) "konsole: WARNING about _attachPty()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141284
[06:13] <ubotu> New bug: #141285 in firefox (main) "letters are too small in firefox menu" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141285
[06:14] <unggnu> Could anyone tell me what is wrong with the fix in this bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/136380 ?
[06:14] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 136380 in acpi-support "[Gutsy]  sonybright.sh doesn't use the correct value range" [Undecided,New]
[06:16] <bdmurray> unggnu: you could check with mjg59 in #ubuntu-kernel
[06:17] <unggnu> bdmurray, thanks, but it is a userspace-bug
[06:17] <unggnu> bdmurray, wouldn't it make more sense to ask under #ubuntu-devel or is he only in kernel channel?
[06:18] <bdmurray> unggnu: okay, mjg59 is Matthew Garrett the maintainer of acpi stuff
[06:18] <unggnu> bdmurray, thanks, I am going to ask
[06:26] <ubotu> New bug: #141289 in ubuntu "lcd backlight is switched off after resume from STR on Lenovo/IBM ThinkPad R61i" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141289
[06:26] <ubotu> New bug: #141290 in gnupg (main) "Elliptic curve cryptography (ECC) patch for gnupg-1.4" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141290
[06:31] <ubotu> New bug: #141288 in xft (main) "Enable sub-pixel rendering" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141288
[06:31] <ubotu> New bug: #141292 in nautilus (main) "Nautlius > File/Folder Properties does not display full file path for a symbolic link" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141292
[06:39] <Kmos> dholbach: hi :)
[06:40] <ubotu> New bug: #141294 in displayconfig-gtk (main) "same graphics card is detected twice" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141294
[06:40] <ubotu> New bug: #141295 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "apparmor: kernel fix for missing audit type" [High,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141295
[06:42] <Kmos> bug 128713
[06:42] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 128713 in ubuntu "char "" not recognized in gnome password field (edgy)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128713
[06:42] <Kmos> anyone knows if this is already fixed on edgy ?
[06:43] <Hobbsee> ...look at the status.
[06:43] <Kmos> Hobbsee: i know.. it's new =)
[06:43] <bdmurray> Kmos: There are vmware images available for Edgy if you want to try reproducing it
[06:44] <Kmos> what's the package of gnome login ? gdm ?
[06:44] <Hobbsee> Kmos: if you'd employed any type of thought at all, you'd noticed that there are no references on the bug to it being fixed, therefore the bug *probably* still exists.
[06:44] <dholbach> hi Kmos
[06:44] <Kmos> gnome-session ?
[06:44] <Hobbsee> Kmos: does it occur in gutsy?
[06:44] <Kmos> Hobbsee: or anyone looked at it
[06:45] <Kmos> Hobbsee: I think it's working fine on gutsy, i've tried it when i commented the bug the first time
[06:45] <Kmos> it can be set fix released
[06:45] <Kmos> and commented that it's fixed on gutsy
[06:45] <Kmos> but I need to try again
[06:45] <Hobbsee> great :).  do that, then.
[06:45] <dholbach> Kmos: best to mention that it's fixed in gutsy, somebody else can mark it as 'fix released' then or decide if it's an issue in edgy still
[06:45] <Kmos> to make sure it doesn't happen
[06:45] <Kmos> two times, better than one :)
[06:46] <Kmos> dholbach: yeah
[06:47] <Kmos> the package is gdm
[06:47] <Kmos> =)
[06:50] <ubotu> New bug: #141297 in ia32-libs (universe) "vmware 5.5 does no longer start" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141297
[07:11] <ubotu> New bug: #134075 in squeak-vm (multiverse) "There is no squeak-vm for PPC" [Low,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134075
[07:23] <bdmurray> pedro_: bug 139967 seems a bit odd but I wasn't sure where to file it
[07:23] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 139967 in ubuntu "Documents directory is mandatory" [Medium,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139967
[07:25] <ubotu> New bug: #141303 in kdebase (main) "Bad X resolution when starting kdm with screen off" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141303
[07:40] <ubotu> New bug: #141304 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "White boxes instead of shadows on ATI 9600 (radeon driver)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141304
[07:43] <pochu>                    https://launchpad.net/bugs/141304
[07:43] <pochu>                    https://launchpad.net/bugs/141304
[07:43] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 141304 in xserver-xorg-video-ati "White boxes instead of shadows on ATI 9600 (radeon driver)" [Undecided,New]
[07:43] <pochu> whoups :)
[08:06] <ubotu> New bug: #141309 in pam (main) "asks debconf question during upload" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141309
[08:08] <pedro_> bdmurray: seems to be somewhat related to bug 122602
[08:08] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122602 in gnome-panel "Duplicated entries in Places Menu" [Medium,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122602
[08:08] <pedro_> like a side effect of
[08:09] <bdmurray> Hrm, mine my menu was fine unti I started renaming or deleting the xdg user dirs.
[08:11] <ubotu> New bug: #141310 in network-manager (main) "package network-manager 0.6.5-0ubuntu11 failed to install/upgrade: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141310
[08:11] <ubotu> New bug: #141311 in gnome-power-manager (main) "Should block ACPI events upon hibernate/suspend" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141311
[08:20] <ubotu> New bug: #141312 in irda-utils (main) "IrDA crashes with "LSR safety check engaged!" report" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141312
[08:23] <pochu> slomo: would you mind reviewing/uploading http://emilio.pozuelo.org/~deb/liferea_1.4.2-0ubuntu%5b12%5d.debdiff ? It should be easy to review :) It backports to fixes from 1.4.2b
[08:24] <slomo> pochu: why not just take 1.4.2b as it's a plain bugfix release anyway?
[08:24] <pochu> slomo: because it has a huge rewrite to fix compilation with gtkhtml
[08:24] <pochu> and it scares me :)
[08:25] <ubotu> New bug: #141313 in ubuntu "fullscreen "open arena" stutters when screensaver preview dialog is open" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141313
[08:26] <slomo> pochu: hm, shouldn't that only change stuff in the gtkhtml part?
[08:26] <pochu> I guess it should, yes
[08:26] <pochu> http://liferea.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/liferea?view=rev&revision=3435
[08:27] <slomo> pochu: then i would prefer taking the version ;)
[08:29] <pochu> I thought it might be better to backport the fixes, since they are small (2 lines), instead of taking the new release, which is almost a gtkhtml fix
[08:29] <pochu> and since we don't build gtkhtml... ;)
[08:29] <pochu> slomo: but it may be better to follow upstream, as you say
[08:30] <ubotu> New bug: #141314 in mplayer (multiverse) "mencoder with -oac mp3lame create loud static audio" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141314
[08:40] <ubotu> New bug: #141315 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "Desktop CD fails to boot because of 8139cp driver" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141315
[08:46] <ubotu> New bug: #141316 in pidgin (main) "pidgin crashed with SIGSEGV in g_hash_table_lookup()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141316
[09:05] <ubotu> New bug: #141319 in apt (main) "apt-get source: support selection by distribution" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141319
[09:06] <ubotu> New bug: #141224 in ubuntu "support" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141224
[09:15] <ubotu> New bug: #141320 in ubuntu "Mouse-over info text boxes black" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141320
[09:20] <ubotu> New bug: #141321 in ubuntu "alert message after clicking exe file" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141321
[09:20] <ubotu> New bug: #141322 in ubuntu "SPARC netboot kernel modules error" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141322
[09:20] <ubotu> New bug: #141323 in restricted-manager (restricted) "restricted-manager install the wrong nvidia driver GUTSY" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141323
[09:25] <ubotu> New bug: #141324 in kde-systemsettings (main) "systemsettings-kde: crash when double-clicking "printer"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141324
[09:25] <ubotu> New bug: #141325 in ubuntu "printout from evince blurry" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141325
[09:25] <ubotu> New bug: #141326 in gutsy-wallpapers (main) "Poor Image-Quality" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141326
[09:36] <ubotu> New bug: #141327 in duplicity (universe) "[UFVe]  Please sync duplicity from Debian unstable" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141327
[09:36] <ubotu> New bug: #141328 in update-manager (main) "update-manager disturb" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141328
[09:41] <ubotu> New bug: #141329 in bacula (universe) "bacula-sd failed files restore bug" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141329
[09:52] <ubotu> New bug: #141331 in ubuntu "support message after clicking rar files" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141331
[09:52] <ubotu> New bug: #141333 in amule (universe) "Amule cant start (crash on startup)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141333
[09:55] <ubotu> New bug: #141334 in gnome-panel (main) "on changing the workdesk the strt-menue is not displayed (active desktop is on)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141334
[10:00] <ubotu> New bug: #141336 in ubuntu "Bug with VLC and Compiz when using cube" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141336
[10:05] <ubotu> New bug: #141338 in python-launchpad-bugs (main) "RFE: using (new) advanced search options" [Wishlist,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141338
[10:10] <ubotu> New bug: #141339 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "ondemand governor sets cpu frequency to 100% after resume" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141339
[10:10] <ubotu> New bug: #141340 in evince (main) "Printing halts in mid-print during network print" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141340
[10:17] <ubotu> New bug: #140901 in system-config-printer (main) "system-config-printer.py crashed with ValueError in reinit()" [Medium,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/140901
[10:17] <ubotu> New bug: #140903 in tracker (main) "tracker-extract crashed with SIGSEGV in strcmp()" [Medium,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/140903
[10:17] <ubotu> New bug: #141341 in update-manager (main) "update-manager freezes with debconf question in terminal during feisty->gutsy upgrade" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141341
[10:21] <ubotu> New bug: #141343 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "r8169 driver does not work with Realtek "PCI-E" 8111B integrated network controller" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141343
[10:31] <ubotu> New bug: #141346 in ubuntu "/var/mail/{name} wrong permissions" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141346
[10:41] <ubotu> New bug: #141348 in beagle (main) "purging beagle doesn't clean up everything" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141348
[10:44] <bdmurray> bug 140065 might benefit from some translating
[10:44] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 140065 in ubuntu "33699" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/140065
[10:45] <bdmurray> It looks like Spanish to me
[10:45] <ubotu> New bug: #141351 in sdl-mixer1.2 (main) "Please sync sdl-mixer1.2_1.2.6-3 from debian unstable main" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141351
[10:50] <ubotu> New bug: #141352 in ubiquity (main) "ubiquity freezes during hardware configuration" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141352
[10:51] <ubotu> New bug: #141298 in dell "Intel video card 8086:2a02 blacklisted, can't run compiz" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141298
[10:55] <ubotu> New bug: #141355 in ubuntu "Atheros AR511 not connecting to networks" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141355
[11:00] <ubotu> New bug: #141356 in ubuntu "package kubuntu-desktop 1.56 failed to install/upgrade: probl?mes de d?pendances - laiss? non configur?" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141356
[11:00] <ubotu> New bug: #141357 in elog (universe) "elog can't use language option" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141357
[11:10] <ubotu> New bug: #141361 in compiz (main) "[Gutsy]  Wrong default settings for gtk-window-decorator (white boarder bug)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141361
[11:23] <ubotu> New bug: #141362 in f-spot (main) ""Rotating photos" progress dialog's Stop button has a misleading name" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141362
[11:26] <ubotu> New bug: #141363 in ubuntu "No suspend on Medion Laptop (Gutsy)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141363
[11:26] <ubotu> New bug: #141364 in pidgin (main) "[pidgin] [usability]  "Icon error" report not usable information." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141364
[11:26] <ubotu> New bug: #141366 in synaptic (main) "apt-listchanges setup ignored" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141366
[11:31] <ubotu> New bug: #141367 in ubuntu "UME: Unknown Password Required for Maintence Mode" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141367
[11:37] <ubotu> New bug: #141369 in flashplugin-nonfree (multiverse) "flash menu handling problem" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141369
[11:41] <ubotu> New bug: #141370 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "TI PCIxx12 SD card reader doesn't work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141370
[11:41] <ubotu> New bug: #141371 in libnss-ldap (universe) "No /etc/libnss-ldap.conf is created by the installation" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141371
[11:54] <dBera> hey folks, whats the process for UVF exception requests for 'main' packages to get accepted ?
[11:55] <pochu> !uvf
[11:55] <dBera> i am interested in this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/beagle/+bug/139262 and was wondering if this would make it to gutsy ?
[11:55] <ubotu> uvf is Upstream Version Freeze.  For an exception, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess#head-9523bc4076ff011324d67cddc97969ec609618d6
[11:55] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 139262 in beagle "UVF exception request for Beagle 0.2.18" [Undecided,New]
[11:55] <pochu> dBera: it's easier than universe packages :)
[11:56] <dBera> pochu: yeah, i figured that out from the wiki but could not figure out why #139262 was not getting any response :(
[11:57] <dBera> it looked to me like the maintainers might have missed something, on the other hand the clock is ticking for gutsy :)
[11:57] <pochu> let me have a look
[11:57] <dBera> sweet, thanks
[11:59] <pochu> dBera: seems fine. Tomorrow is pitti's archive day, and he should look at it. you may want to ping him, though
[11:59] <pochu> dBera: hehe
[11:59] <seb128> beagle 0.2.18 has been uploaded today
[12:00] <pochu> hmm, right
[12:00] <ubotu> New bug: #141375 in openoffice.org (main) "subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 56" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141375
[12:00] <seb128> I did sponsor the upload
[12:01] <pochu> dBera: would you mind closing the bug report as fix released?
[12:01] <dBera> ahh... nice. i didnt see any mention in the bug so was wondering
[12:01] <dBera> i wouldnt, as long as i have the rights. let me try.
[12:01] <seb128> dBera: I closed it now
[12:01] <dBera> wow! you guys work fast :-D
[12:01] <seb128> bug #134341
[12:01] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 134341 in beagle "beagle ftbfs" [High,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134341
[12:02] <seb128> that's the one which had the comments


[01:21] <nhaines> chiluk: will be happy to see you there.  :)  And yeah, that sounds just like José.


[01:05] <maco> hey guys, while you're running those jaunty live cds, can you follow the directions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/AlsaInfoOutput ?
[03:04] <benoxoft> hi everyone, i'm trying to install ubuntu netbook remix 9.04 but ubiquity does not see my hard drive
[03:05] <benoxoft> does anyone can help me?
[03:14] <benoxoft> ubuntu detect it and mount it correctly but the partitionner does not show anything
[03:20] <cjwatson> that could well just be an installer semi-crash
[03:20] <cjwatson> file a bug and post /var/log/syslog, /var/log/partman, and /var/log/installer/debug
[03:23] <benoxoft> ok i'll check that
[03:24] <benoxoft> thanks
[03:28] <cjwatson> I just uploaded ubiquity 1.11.13, including some fixes from a colleague that might address this
[03:30] <benoxoft> is there is a way to test it now?
[03:31] <benoxoft> if i can download it, i can tell you if it works for me
[04:00] <benoxoft> i installed ubiquity from the trunk and it did not work :<
[07:31] <ara> good morning everybody!
[08:37] <davmor2> ara: so how did the first testing day go other than unr and lvm not working ?
[08:38] <ara> davmor2: hehehehe
[08:38] <ara> davmor2: it went ok. kirkland was very responsive for his screen-profiles bugs
[08:38] <ara> davmor2: he fixed (and released) some
[08:39] <ara> davmor2: I was happy to see new people coming over
[08:39] <ara> davmor2: the lvm bug was also fixed, wasn't it?
[08:40] <davmor2> ara: I don't know if it was the big bug which mean that it won't boot but the bad numbering should be now
[08:40] <ara> davmor2: cool
[08:40] <ara> davmor2: thanks for testing that :)
[08:41] <davmor2> ara: did you have an issue with the wording in screen for changing from light to dark ?
[08:41] <ara> wording?
[08:41] <ara> what do you mean?
[08:46] <davmor2> let me get the screen up
[08:52] <davmor2> ara: right run screen then run select-screen-profile change to another one and it says 'Run "screen" to activate'  if you follow those instructions it does nothing.  You need to shutdown the terminal your in then open a new one then run screen for it to take effect
[08:53] <ara> davmor2: are you running the latest? today there was an update
[08:53] <davmor2> I'll try it in tty
[08:53] <davmor2> no that is from yesterday I'll try it in a second
[09:03] <davmor2> ara: Yay that's better :)
[09:03] <davmor2> see I knew it was just the wording :)
[09:03] <ara> davmor2: :)
[09:05] <davmor2> davmor21: hello evil twin
[09:08] <davmor2> davmor21: moo ping and other things
[09:09] <davmor2> Bar humbug no notifyosd
[09:36] <davmor2> So notifyosd only works with chat and not irc.  So in order to test you just need 2 machines and bonjour setup
[10:10] <davmor2> bdmurray: When your up working on vfat install now
[10:50] <davmor2> D'oh forgot windows fat can't handle drives over 32 GB
[12:37]  * ara -> lunch
[13:30] <ara> davmor2: ping
[13:59] <rmcbride> Ah, the updated ubiquity now gets past the whole partition setup and into the installation phase :) vast improvement over yesterday.
[14:01] <ara> \o/
[14:06] <davmor2> ara: pong
[14:19] <rmcbride> eek! ubiquity blew up at ~90% install. getting apport stuffs now.
[14:20] <rmcbride> meh. It won't complete collection because apparently grub is out of date now.
[14:24] <davmor2> cjwatson: ^
[14:25] <cjwatson> rmcbride: could I get a syslog?
[14:25] <davmor2> rmcbride: get the logs together for cjwatson
[14:25] <rmcbride> I just did dist-upgrade to put the newer grub into place. I'll get the logs together as well
[14:27] <davmor2> cjwatson: I'm about to start a bunch of tests too
[14:27] <davmor2> I'll see if I can confirm
[14:29] <rmcbride> cjwatson: syslog is at https://pastebin.canonical.com/14161
[14:30] <cjwatson> ok, though I'd recommend using paste.ubuntu.com in future where it doesn't need to be private
[14:30] <cjwatson> ok, that's the bug evand just fixed in bzr
[14:30] <rmcbride> cjwatson: didn't know about that one. thanks.
[14:30] <rmcbride> OK cool
[14:31] <cjwatson> rmcbride: delete the seds of $adjtimefile in /usr/lib/ubiquity/clock-setup/finish-install if you want to get past it
[14:31] <rmcbride> cjwatson: will do, thanks
[15:15] <rmcbride> Argh. Installation completes but on reboot, grub throws error 22... if this is the same thing I ran into when I last built this machine I think it's because grub gets confused as to the partition numbers when being installed from USB stick in some cases. I should be able to boot off the live cd and re-edumacate the grub install... cjwatson there any useful info I could gather that would help fix this case? It seems to happen on
[15:15] <rmcbride> netbooks with a 20 (really 4 + 16) GiB SSDs like the eee 900
[15:16] <cjwatson> I doubt that the size is relevant
[15:17] <cjwatson> 22 : No such partition
[15:17] <cjwatson>      This error is returned if a partition is requested in the device
[15:17] <cjwatson>      part of a device- or full file name which isn't on the selected
[15:17] <cjwatson>      disk.
[15:17] <cjwatson> rmcbride: /etc/fstab /boot/grub/menu.lst and 'sudo vol_id -u' of the devices backing your / and /boot (if distinct) would be a start
[15:17] <cjwatson> rmcbride: however to some extent this is a known general issue
[15:19] <apw> sc
[15:20] <davmor2> bdmurray: you about yet dude?
[15:20] <apw> schwuk, cr3, just pushed up an update to suspend_test for checkbox, proposed for merging: https://code.launchpad.net/~apw/checkbox/suspend-resume/+merge/3902
[15:20] <rmcbride> cjwatson: OK I'll get those. WHat seems to be happening is that the device IDs are different when the USB drive is no longer present. I don't think it has so much to do with size as the fact that there are two SSDs on the system,
[15:20] <cr3> apw: cheers!
[15:21] <rmcbride> or at least the way grub sees things
[15:21] <cjwatson> rmcbride: right, at the moment there is unfortunately no good fix
[15:21] <cr3> apw: for which ubuntu releases might this script work?
[15:22] <schwuk> apw: Excellent.
[15:22] <cjwatson> rmcbride: grub has to locate its stage2 from its 446-byte stage1, and there isn't enough room in there to do proper dynamic detection, so it depends on what the Linux device <-> BIOS device mapping looked like during installtion
[15:22] <cjwatson> rmcbride: I think we may, reluctantly, have to have some manual UI hack in ubiquity
[15:22] <rmcbride> cjwatson: ah. crap. Yea it's sounding like it.
[15:23] <cjwatson> rmcbride: futzing with /boot/grub/device.map and rerunning grub-install is probably a viable workaround (and is what the implementation will have to look like)
[15:24] <rmcbride> cjwatson: yea that's what I had to do with my intrepid/unr alt install last time I installed on this hardware.
[15:24] <cr3> apw: would you mind if I report a bug so that the script doesn't depend on being run with sudo, and that it could instead be run as root?
[15:24] <schwuk> apw: I've added you to the checkbox-dev group, so you can commit your changes directly.
[15:24] <apw> cr3, not at all ... that would preclude use of the dbus test
[15:24] <apw> but in V6 that test is a separate 'category' so that would work
[15:24] <apw> cr3, got a use case?
[15:25] <apw> (purley curious)
[15:26] <cr3> apw: for interactive use within checkbox. if you have a command line script requiring to be run with sudo and which prompts for a password in the background, that breaks the flow of the application
[15:27] <apw> cr3, i am going to have to hack the script about to interface it to checkbox anyhow
[15:27] <cr3> apw: patch approved and merged with trunk
[15:27] <apw> and am planning on doing that bit next
[15:27] <apw> cr3, ta
[15:27] <apw> cr3, so explain to me, when running tests whome are we running as by default?
[15:27] <cr3> apw: if you interface it to checkbox, you could add "user: root" when defining your test
[15:28] <cr3> apw: by default, as the user running checkbox. however, this can be overridden with the "user:" option
[15:28] <apw> and how does it become root there
[15:28] <cr3> apw: through dbus
[15:28] <apw> ie can i tell who the orignal user is?
[15:28] <cr3> apw: good use case! no, you can't tell who the original user is
[15:29] <apw> hmmm ... one of the tests at least needs to know that
[15:29] <apw> do i have it as a variable in theere anywhere, as there is no trust issue
[15:29] <cr3> apw: I'll have to look at the script more closely but it would be nice to run it on server as well, as long as it's automated, which doesn't have dbus installed by default though
[15:30] <apw> yep, that test can and is disabled for server
[15:30] <cr3> apw: honnestly, I don't have an answer for you at this time, I'll have to think about it
[15:30] <apw> and we can simply ommit it for that one
[15:30] <apw> but even if we only had $user as an option in the command strings to run that would
[15:30] <cr3> apw: I can appreciate your use case though, checkbox should be able to support knowing the user
[15:30] <apw> be sufficient for this use case, right now i just use SUDO_USER cause i can
[15:31] <apw> can i sub in environement variables?
[15:31] <cr3> apw: the problem is that when commands are run as root, a request is made to dbus telling it to run a test by name, not by command
[15:31] <apw> shame
[15:31] <apw> well ... i'll let you think about that one
[15:31] <apw> thats one of a larger number of tests
[15:32] <cr3> apw: well, that's how it can remain secure, I wouldn't want to be able to send arbitrary commands to run as root by dbus :)
[15:32] <apw> and i can simply make that a manual test
[15:32] <apw> ie say "press suspend dummy"
[15:32] <cr3> apw: when do you intend to work on the integration, I'd like to have a workaround ready for you before then
[15:32] <apw> cr3, soon ish
[15:33] <apw> but it won't hold me up.  it might make more sense to do that test
[15:33] <apw> manually now i think about it
[15:33] <apw> as the test is inherantly trying to test the end-to-end experience
[15:33] <cr3> I know I can pull some rabbit out of my... hat. I'd just like to make sure it materializes as a rabbit rather than a gerbil
[15:33] <apw> asking the user to hit suspend isn't such a bad idea
[15:33] <cr3> in case I'm not making sense, I'd like to find an acceptable solution rather than a hack
[15:33] <cr3> where acceptable == rabbit, hack == gerbil :)
[15:33] <apw> its actually a better test.  so for now i'd not worry about it, at least in the sense that it isn't a blocker for the work i want to do on the thing
[15:34] <cr3> apw: ok, so instead of reporting a bug against the suspend_test script, I'll report one against checkbox itself :)
[15:34] <apw> good enough :)
[15:35] <apw> cr3, remind me, was there a reboot capable test yet?
[15:37] <cr3> apw: nope
[15:38] <ara> cr3: ping
[15:38] <apw> on your plan list add coping with machine crashing as part of the test
[15:38] <apw> ie. continuing after a reboot and sayign "that didn't work did it"
[15:39] <cr3> apw: reported bug #333884 and subscribed you
[15:39] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 333884 in checkbox "Some tests should be run as root but know the original user" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/333884
[15:40] <cr3> ara: pong
[15:40] <apw> cr3 sounds good
[15:40] <ara> cr3: is the checkbox ppa version newer than the one in jaunty?
[15:40] <cr3> apw: hm, other people have expressed interest in that usability issue where checkbox should continue from where it stopped in case of crash
[15:41] <cr3> ara: yep
[15:41] <apw> given suspend-resume is pants and blows up a lot
[15:41] <apw> and indeed there is only right now any point in 'did that work == YES' else they arn't there to hit it
[15:41] <ara> cr3: then versioning is wrong
[15:41] <ara> cr3: apt-get thinks jaunty one is newer
[15:41] <ara> cr3: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA?action=show&redirect=PPAQuickStart#Versioning
[15:42] <ara> cr3: to install the ppa i would need to uninstall checkbox and then install the ppa manually
[15:43] <cr3> schwuk: ^^^
[15:45] <apw> cr3, when i run checkbox-gtk it just whines that i need to be an adminstrator
[15:45] <apw> thats hopeless for a pleb to understand
[15:46] <cr3> apw: yeah, the version with policykit support has been in the core-dev queue since FF
[15:46] <bdmurray> davmor2: I am!
[15:47] <apw> cr3, and it just crashed my X-server into the bargain.  top marks
[15:47] <cr3> apw: woohoo, it failed testing!
[15:47] <cr3> apw: seriously though, what test were you running which crashed X?
[15:48] <apw> none, i was skipping them all, i ran exactly none
[15:48] <apw> i _think_ it was about to ask me about my wavelan prism2.5, but its gotten much further this time
[15:48] <cr3> apw: can you reproduce the problem consistently?
[15:48] <apw> so i can't be sure
[15:48] <apw> not so far
[15:48] <davmor2> bdmurray: Yay. Right I've had a quick look at jaunty and umenu/wubi is still borked should be uploading shortly.  So I'm going to rub wubi from intrepid on a fat32 xp install is that alright for you?
[15:48] <davmor2> /s/rub/run
[15:48] <bdmurray> davmor2: sure, that'd be great.  the bug is about kernel upgrading after the install
[15:49] <apw> cr3, can i tell it which suite to run ?
[15:49] <cr3> apw: the only thing that comes to mind is that one of the tests needs to run xrandr in order to display the question
[15:49] <cr3> apw: which suite: yes. which test specifically: no.
[15:50] <apw> yeah i want to say just my resume suite.  whats the option?
[15:50] <apw> this manual page sucks
[15:50] <cr3> apw: for i in `seq 1 20`; do xrandr -q; done # does that reproduce the problem?
[15:51] <cr3> apw: --config=checkbox/plugins/suites_info/whitelist=name_of_suite_file.txt
[15:52] <apw> nope to the xrandr reproduce, and the test was that resolution test
[15:52] <cr3> apw: yeah, the resolution test simply runs xrandr to determine the resolution
[15:53] <apw> well unless it happens again i'll put it down to an X update happening recentlly
[15:53] <schwuk> ara: The version in the PPA (0.5~ppa5) is the same as the one proposed for Jaunty (0.6).
[15:54] <ara> schwuk: yes, but in jaunty now it is version 0.5
[15:54] <ara> schwuk: so if you try to install the ppa over 0.5, it should be possible, but it is not
[15:54] <apw> cr3, at the recent sprint we were introduced to checkbox and had some feedback on it
[15:54] <schwuk> ara: hmm
[15:54] <apw> like on how you get the question before you have run the test
[15:54] <ara> schwuk: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA?action=show&redirect=PPAQuickStart#Versioning
[15:55] <apw> is there now a way i should be encoding things to get that to happen right?
[15:55] <apw> or is that still in the works?
[15:55] <apw> (t
[15:55] <cr3> schwuk: dpkg --compare-versions 0.5~ppa5 gt 0.5 && echo "true" || echo "false"
[15:55] <apw> (this is for tests with a TEST button)
[15:56] <apw> for sure, a ~NNN is before the thing its attached to
[15:56] <cr3> apw: man, did I make that introduction to checkbox? I remember making a presentation but only emmet was there :)
[15:56] <apw> heh no it was someone else, but i assume yo heard about all my pitiful whining
[15:57] <schwuk> cr3: No, I did it, and yes I passed along some of the pitiful whining :)
[15:57] <cr3> apw: nope, I wish I did though. I love to hear whining, I actually do wdd (whining driven development)
[15:57] <schwuk> ara: We'll get that sorted out asap
[15:57] <cr3> schwuk: cool, my memory must be failing me once again
[15:58] <apw> so one thing was the fact that you get the question and answer bits before you have hit test which makes no sense
[15:58] <ara> schwuk: cool, thanks
[15:58] <cr3> apw: by default, you get the question before running the test. isn't that what you're observing?
[15:58] <apw> and i wondered if that was jst cause i wasn't doing the definition of the test right
[15:58] <apw> yeah it says like "Hit test to suspend"  Did you resume sucessully?
[15:58] <cr3> apw: sure that makes sense. what if the test powers off your machine, that's quite a startling user experience.
[15:59] <apw> yep you need the first half the text, so in this case
[15:59] <apw> "Click on the test button to initiate a suspend.  Once the machine has gone to sleep, wake it up again"
[16:00] <apw> i'd like that to be there, then i hit test and i'd like the queston to appear either additionally or only in the box after the script completes
[16:00] <apw> kinda two phase
[16:00] <apw> cr3, anyhow, the short answer is, i am doing it right at the moment i think
[16:00] <cr3> apw: how about this: Hit the test button to suspend your machine which should power on automatically. Did your machine power on after a few seconds?
[16:01] <apw> well thats kinda what it says already
[16:02] <cr3> apw: I'm not sure I follow your flow here: i'd like the queston to appear either additionally or only in the box after the script completes
[16:03] <apw> the "did the machine resume?" and the yes/no/skip options are not valid until the Test button was pressed, well skip and only skip is
[16:04] <apw> there are two things in the text presented.  the instructions "Do this/Hit TEST" and the question "Did you hear a beep?"
[16:04] <apw> and they are kinda separate
[16:04] <apw> one way to represent that might be to add the question and enable Y/N only after TEST has been hit say
[16:04] <cr3> apw: I'm reluctant to disable yes/no if the test button has not been pressed
[16:05] <apw> well how can they answer if test has not been hit?
[16:05] <cr3> apw: because if I know the suspend works, I don't want to have to wait to test it again
[16:05] <apw> they blatently can't knw the answer
[16:05] <apw> hmmm ...
[16:05] <cr3> apw: I might be suspending every day in the first place
[16:05] <apw> now you are letting the user guess what my test does
[16:05] <apw> i may be suspending using some other mechanism, how would they know that
[16:05] <apw> an indeed i do do that, i suspend using dbus and also using pm-suspend
[16:06] <apw> "on suspend works, so this 100 suspend cycle test is clearly yes"
[16:06] <apw> is not a very safe option to put in a users hands IMO
[16:07] <apw> cr3 i am not at alll picky, honest
[16:08] <cr3> apw: this is an accuracy concern though, but duly noted
[16:08] <apw> right, testing is 100% useless if you don't know its veracity
[16:08] <apw> it is worse than no information at all
[16:09] <apw> do we at least record that they didn't hit Test,  that is the politic middle ground
[16:13] <apw> cr3 what order do my tests in my suite run in?
[16:15] <davmor2> bdmurray: Right wubi installed I'll start the updates now
[16:19] <bdmurray> davmor2: okay, if all goes well you shouldn't land at the lp bug filing page
[16:19] <davmor2> :)
[16:22] <ara> stgraber: ping
[16:24] <davmor2> bdmurray: Meh Report A Problem Sorry, the package "linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic 2.6.27-7.16" failed to install or upgrade  I'm guessing this is what was already reported or do you need me to upload the apport report?
[16:26] <apw> cr3, got any suite fragments for non-manual tests?
[16:26] <apw> which plugin should i be using
[16:26] <bdmurray> davmor2: try and upload it and see what happens
[16:29] <cr3> apw: plugin: shell
[16:29] <davmor2> bdmurray: Hmm there are a few bugs listed for it
[16:30] <apw> cr3, so there is no feedback at all on shell test
[16:30] <bdmurray> davmor2: so it didn't say this problem has already been reported and show you bug 252900?
[16:30] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 252900 in wubi "vfat : wubi 8.04.1-rev506 kernel upgrade fails" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/252900
[16:30] <apw> is there a way to initiate a test which shows someone something, but requires no interaction
[16:30] <apw> i would like to tell them how far through they are and the like
[16:30] <davmor2> bdmurray: top of the list
[16:31] <cr3> apw: by default, the exit code of the given command determines whether the test passed (0) or failed (!0)
[16:31] <davmor2> bdmurray: next is 332476 and 332837 which look identical
[16:32] <apw> yeah but say there are two tests, a variable timing test and a repeated iteration test
[16:32] <cr3> apw: the shell tests are all run after the manual tests and a progress bar is displayed during that time
[16:32] <bdmurray> davmor2: okay, apport should have caught it before letting you get that far
[16:32] <apw> i would like the box on the screen to show 'variable test pass 10' or something
[16:33] <cr3> apw: is the purpose to be able to identify which pass number failed, if that happens?
[16:33] <davmor2> bdmurray: I got the login page, next I got the summary description, then I got the bug list
[16:34] <apw> the purpose is that the test is going to take 30 minutes and 30 mins of cylon isn't going to help them
[16:34] <apw> so i'd like it to have the normal box without the pass/fail on the bottom
[16:34] <apw> with something helpful in it
[16:34] <apw> even if i have to do each pass as a separate test, if i had a non-interactive normal test like window
[16:35] <cr3> apw: my god man! 30 minutes just for suspend/resume?
[16:35] <apw> then it could 'flick' from test to test
[16:35] <apw> cr3, heh, we do 24hour suspend resume tests on some h/w
[16:36] <cr3> apw: actually, a 30 minute test would be fine if it's interactive and the user can optionally skip it
[16:36] <davmor2> bdmurray: http://www.davmor2.co.uk/lp.png is the page I'm on if you want I can continue
[16:36] <apw> cr3, well right
[16:36] <bdmurray> davmor2: is this something you could test later after I sort out my apport bit
[16:36] <davmor2> bdmurray: Yes no probs
[16:36] <apw> so i guess i have to do it as an interactive test, even thought its not
[16:37] <apw> and even then i don't have any feedback
[16:37] <apw> thats pretty poor
[16:37] <cr3> apw: well, what does the test do exactly? repeatedly suspend/resume the machine?
[16:38] <davmor2> bdmurray: I'll just wipe the wubi install and drop a base install back on so it's ready
[16:38] <bdmurray> davmor2: if you were to perform the upgrade again right now you'd get the same error
[16:38] <bdmurray> at least I think so
[16:39] <apw> cr3, yep in one it does it a lot of times, the other it does it with varying times awake
[16:39] <bdmurray> So leaving as it is should be fine
[16:39] <apw> as that tickles bugs often
[16:39] <cr3> apw: if your concern is the poor user experience of showing a progress bar for 30 minutes, that could be solved
[16:39] <apw> so i guess i would be happy making the whole thing a single interactive test which said
[16:39] <apw> "this takes a damn long time"
[16:39] <apw> but some feedback would be nice
[16:39] <cr3> apw: it could be non-interactive, because it's not really interactive as you said
[16:39] <davmor2> bdmurray: I want to make a back up of the windows install anyway so no issue there
[16:40] <apw> cr3, though as you say that is one people might want to skip
[16:40] <cr3> apw: I'm reluctant to have each test provide their own custom mechanism for providing feedback. so, how about this...
[16:40] <apw> so at least offering a skip is pretty important
[16:40] <davmor2> and I want the broken wubi install off before I do that :)
[16:40] <apw> cr3, right i don't want to do feedback in my code thanks :)
[16:41] <cr3> apw: what would you think if tests define a timeout and a reasonably high default. then, instead of showing a progress bar, I could show the maximum amount of time remaining which would slowly decrease as automated tests are completed.
[16:41] <apw> cr3, thats just bound to get it wrong and annoy people
[16:41] <apw> how about a standard reporting form
[16:41] <cr3> apw: it's an upper bound though, which would never go over
[16:41] <apw> command_with_output: <command>
[16:42] <cr3> apw: it's annoying to people when the upper bound is not respected :)
[16:42] <apw> and that would display the stdout of the command in like an xterm style box
[16:42] <apw> then we could display our current position in there
[16:42] <cr3> apw: ooo! that reminds me of the xterm box in gdebbi or somesuch
[16:43] <cr3> apw: very cool idea, I like it
[16:43] <apw> well i'd hope you would put the panel in the same spot the test queston goes
[16:43] <apw> so that would just scroll up, but dunno how hard that is
[16:43] <apw> i presume i can fake it up for now with just an xterm
[16:43] <cr3> apw: the same spot would show the output of each of the automated tests being run, right?
[16:44] <apw> yeah
[16:44] <apw> while you think on that, i am going to cheat and use an xterm :)
[16:44] <cr3> apw: thanks, I'll report another bug for that because I really don't want to forget this one
[16:44] <apw> enjoy :)
[16:45] <apw> you are going to come to hate working with me :)
[16:47] <cr3> apw: as long as you have reasonable requests, I might react quite the opposite and enjoy working with you very much
[16:49] <apw> cr3, heres hoping
[16:49] <apw> cr3, so is there a way to not run a test cause one previous didn't work or was skipped
[16:50] <apw> like it makes sence to do a single automated sleep/resume cycle.  if that suceeds then its worth doing lots of repeats of it, else its madness
[17:07] <cr3> apw: absolutely, depends: test_name
[17:08] <cr3> apw: are there specific requirements for running the tests by any chance, such as some kernel flag or some swap space or somesuch?
[17:09] <davmor2> bdmurray: Right off for tea but I'll be back latter and I'll give it a retry for you then
[17:10] <cr3> apw: in case you need more swap space than memory, you could also add, requires: swaptotal > memtotal
[18:45] <davmor2> bdmurray: Right I'm back
[18:45] <bdmurray> davmor2: thanks, it'll be a while before my bit is squared away
[19:15] <davmor2> sbeattie: ping
[19:20] <sbeattie> davmor2: what's up?
[19:20] <davmor2> are you the controler for dl-ubuntu-test-iso?
[19:21] <sbeattie> I prefer to think of it as Chief Bug Producer, but yes.
[19:23] <davmor2> jeos and gobuntu aren't in anymore and is there away to get the mobile .imgs tied in?
[19:26] <sbeattie> davmor2: jeos and gobuntu (and kubuntu-kde4) should be disabled by tip now (unless, ahem, I've produced another bug), though if you still have them in your config, it'll still try to pull them,
[19:27] <sbeattie> I'll peek at mobile imgs
[19:27] <davmor2> sbeattie: Sorry I was looking at base and not main
[22:07] <davmor2> Right I'm off till tomorrow :)


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[19:44] <Fjjf> ?
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