[00:00] <pleanbean> Should I partition it in the live OS or should I let it automatically partition during install?
[00:00] <hewhomust> live os
[00:01] <pleanbean> Ok... I have 8GBs of ram. Does this sound right?
[00:01] <pleanbean> Whoops. 8gb swap partition, and the rest ext4
[00:01] <hewhomust> yeah sounds k
[00:01] <hc0d3r> hi everybody
[00:02] <hewhomust> hi
[00:31] <ramborocks> im in virtual box running windows 2012 server and i have to press control alt del to get to the logon screen.. although control / alt del then brings up ubuntu shutdown screen
[00:32] <hitsujiTMO> http://superuser.com/questions/116946/how-do-i-press-ctrlaltdelete-in-virtualbox
[00:32] <JENelson> ramborocks: ctrl/alt/del is activated in the guest by holding the RIGHT ctrl key and pressing DEL.
[00:33] <JENelson> there is also a pulldown menu option in the guest window to send ctrl/alt/del
[00:35] <ramborocks> ha!
[00:35] <ramborocks> it worked thanks hitsuji
[00:35] <ramborocks> Jen i had previously used the onscreen keyboard and that just was annoying
[00:35] <skjones> didn't i read about some controversy between ubuntu and Lubuntu?  anyone remember the details?
[00:36] <JENelson> ramborocks: i remember being frustrated until i learned the proper key sequence. :-)
[00:41] <pleanbean> I need some help. I just installed Ubuntu 13.10 and its booting into a black screen with a blinking white cursor at the top left. Not responding to any keys
[00:44] <phil-ns> pleanbean: try ALT F1
[00:44] <JENelson> pleanbean: boot from a usb stick or cdrom. re-run grub-install /dev/XXX specifying your device name for XXX
[00:45] <JENelson> pleanbean: also, make sure your BIOS is set to boot from the correct device.
[00:45] <pleanbean> JENelson, I'm selecting the boot device from within the BIOS, so I know its the correct device. Going to re-run that command now.
[00:48] <pleanbean> JENelson: It says "Path /boot/grub is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting."
[00:49] <JENelson> hmm
[00:49] <JENelson> try using chroot first then grub-install
[00:49] <JENelson> mount /dev/XXX /mnt
[00:49] <JENelson> chroot /mnt /bin/bash
[00:50] <JENelson> --there's two tricky mount commands that go here--
[00:50] <pleanbean> I just installed boot-repair
[00:51] <JENelson> --google for them--they reuse /dev
[00:51] <JENelson> --and something else
[00:51] <JENelson> grub-install should now work
[00:53] <pleanbean> JENelson, which device do I want to install GRUB onto? /sda, which is my Windows drive, /sdb, which is my Ubuntu drive, or /sdb2, which is my root partition
[00:53] <laceless> Hello. I need help. I changed from Ubuntu 12.04 Desktop 32-bit to Ubuntu 12.04.3 Server 64-bit. All is well except that I cannot run any binary file in command line.
[00:53] <MickMonkey> Helooo
[00:53] <JENelson> pleanbean: where did you install it before?
[00:53] <dvpalex> hi everybody!
[00:53] <MickMonkey> Ubuntu server 13.10 i386 doesn't allow my usb keyboad to be used
[00:54] <pleanbean> I installed it to /sdb
[00:54] <dvpalex> someone from brazil?
[00:54] <JENelson> pleanbean: that's where i would have installed it too. grub can boot into windows, but windows can't boot into grub
[00:54] <k1l> !br | dvpalex
[00:55] <dvpalex> tnks
[00:55] <MickMonkey> Aaany takers?
[00:56] <k1l> MickMonkey: does it work in bios?
[00:56] <MickMonkey> Yup
[00:56] <ramborocks> i cant get my audio / ethernet to work in virtual box
[00:56] <JENelson> MickMonkey. unplug keyboard. type lsusb. plug in keyboard. type lsusb. (assumes you have a second keyboard)
[00:57] <JENelson> what's the difference?
[00:57] <k1l> what hapens when you connect the usb keyboard? please show the dmesg output after that)
[00:57] <MickMonkey> But once in the OS neither of them works
[00:57] <MickMonkey> Like ever
[00:57] <JENelson> MickMonkey. Try plugging into a different usb port
[00:57] <pleanbean> JENelson: paste.ubuntu.com/6805995
[00:57] <MickMonkey> Did that
[00:57] <MickMonkey> and with another ones
[00:57] <MickMonkey> all of them doesn't work
[00:58] <hitsujiTMO> MickMonkey: will it work on a live cd?
[00:58] <MickMonkey> lol server isn't live
[00:58] <MickMonkey> But yes
[00:58] <MickMonkey> yes it does
[00:58] <JENelson> pleanbean: ok, stand by
[00:58] <Sleepnbum> if i switch from win8 to ubuntu, am i still gonna wanna kill myself over the lack of logic?
[00:58] <hitsujiTMO> MickMonkey: from the live cd can you pastebin the output of lspci -knn
[00:59] <gremlyn> so I just got a new laptop with 13.10 preinstalled
[00:59] <gremlyn> monitor on it looks great, but when I plug in my 23" second monitor to the hdmi port, it looks all washed out
[00:59] <gremlyn> looked fine when plugged into the old laptop
[00:59] <laceless> Hello, I need help. I changed from Ubuntu 12.04 Desktop 32-bit to Ubuntu 12.04.3 Server 64-bit. All is well except that I ***cannot run any binary file in command line anymore***. It says something about not finding the file. Even thought the file is there and I even specify an absolute path.
[01:00] <ramborocks> any idea why windows 2012 server wont run internet / audio on server?
[01:00] <MickMonkey> My pci dump?
[01:00] <MickMonkey> What would that accomplish
[01:00] <k1l> Sleepnbum: nope
[01:01] <hitsujiTMO> MickMonkey: see what usb host controller you are using and what driver it loads for it
[01:01] <pleanbean> JENelson: boot-repair was successful. I'm now booting into Ubuntu
[01:01] <JENelson> pleanbean: yahoo!
[01:01] <ramborocks> im using ubuntu
[01:02] <pleanbean> My bigger issue is that I want my boot menu to show Windows and Ubuntu
[01:02] <MickMonkey> ahh
[01:02] <JENelson> pleanbean: how did you fix it?
[01:02] <pleanbean> JENelson: I just ignored the error, and rebooted...
[01:03] <JENelson> pleanbean: the errors with sdc are because it's a cdrom/dvd device, not a disk. you were correct to ignore the errors.
[01:04] <sk1special> ubuntu 12.04 , i was downloading a driver for my wireless card, and my internet cut out, then my laptop crashed, showed a bunch of red text, and now it does not show the driver when i go to download it again under settings > additional drivers
[01:05] <JENelson> pleanbean: the hexdump of sda1 is ok. "BOOTMGR is missing" is really supposed to be there; it will be displayed if is needed.
[01:05] <tomas_> gola
[01:05] <tomas_> hola *
[01:05] <Guest15159> tengo un problema con empathy
[01:06] <pleanbean> JENelson, anything I should do about that?
[01:06] <JENelson> pleanbean: about what? The BOOTMGR message? NO.
[01:07]  * laceless is back
[01:07] <JENelson> pleanbean: you have corrupted your windows boot on sda. grub is installed on sda *and* sdb
[01:07] <pleanbean> JENelson, I noticed that...I was hoping boot-repair fixed that. So now do I have to reinstall Windows?
[01:08] <JENelson> pleanbean: windows command line tools like fixmbr and fixboot could help.
[01:09] <TreeDB> hello everyone, I have a quick question, im trying to use tail however I need to remove the first 41 characters, how do I do that?
[01:10] <laceless> Whenever I try to execute a binary file in command line on 12.04 Server, it says something like "file not found. I did not have that problem on 12.04 Desktop.
[01:13] <hitsujiTMO> TreeDB: thats more of a #bash question, but use awk substring for a posix compliant way of doing that
[01:13] <qin> laceless: you mean: command not found
[01:14] <laceless> -bash: ./minerd: Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type
[01:14] <laceless> "no such file or folder found"
[01:14] <worldwide7477> wondering if anyone knows if xchat can use mirc color scripts
[01:14] <hitsujiTMO> laceless: command are you doing to get that response?
[01:14] <k1l> laceless: what does "ls -al minerd" say?
[01:15] <laceless> ./minerd
[01:16] <laceless> -rwxrwxrwx 1 machintruc machintruc 379680 jan 21 23:24 /home/machintruc/Progs/minerd
[01:16] <k1l> laceless: are you in /home/machintruc/Progs/ ?
[01:17] <JENelson> laceless, what does "file minderd" say?
[01:17] <laceless> ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.26, BuildID[sha1]=0xdd6392f744de0cec6323c610bdd2300851af2e5b, stripped
[01:17] <JENelson> laceless. good. now "ldd minerd"
[01:18] <JENelson> you'll get a lot of output. pay attention to any messages that complain about missing files
[01:18] <laceless> "not a dynamic executable"
[01:18] <laceless> wth
[01:19] <JENelson> laceless, what file is not a dynamic executable?
[01:19] <laceless> minerd
[01:20] <laceless> ldd's result
[01:20] <JENelson> laceless: sounds like the file minerd is corrupt.
[01:21] <JENelson> laceless: "readelf -e minerd"
[01:21] <hitsujiTMO> laceless: whats the output of: uname -a
[01:22] <laceless> hitsujiTMO : Linux Orange2 3.8.0-35-generic #50~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Dec 4 17:25:51 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[01:22] <laceless> my binaries are leftovers from my 32-bit partition
[01:22] <hitsujiTMO> laceless: ensure i386 support is installed
[01:23] <laceless> well, I thought 64-bit OS could handle 32-bit binaries without hassle, can't they ?
[01:23] <JENelson> laceless, they can if you have the 32-bit shared libraries installed.
[01:24] <hitsujiTMO> laceless: dpkg --get-selections | grep multiarch
[01:24] <laceless> JENelson : installing readelf right now
[01:24] <JENelson> k
[01:25] <laceless> i installed binutils-multiarch
[01:26] <hitsujiTMO> laceless: ensure multiarch-support is installed
[01:27] <laceless> binutils-multiarch and multiarch-support are installed
[01:28] <hitsujiTMO> laceless: I'll go with that being compiled without ldd support then
[01:28] <pleanbean> JENelson, those commands kind of frighten me. Any other options?
[01:28] <pleanbean> Also, for some reason my second drive isn't showing up in my BIOS...
[01:29] <hitsujiTMO> laceless: you're most likely just missing the 32bit deps. find it what they are and install. (add :i386) to the package name
[01:30] <laceless> I will take you people's input in consideration, but now I have to go. Bye
[01:30] <JENelson> pleanbean, you could just reinstall windows. or boot the Windows cdrom into "repair" mode, but I have never had much luck with that.
[01:30] <JENelson> pleanbean: your second hard drive is present but it isn't recognizable by windows
[01:30] <pleanbean> Its not Windows that not showing it, its my BIOS
[01:31] <JENelson> o i c. power off, reseat connectors. something may have come loose.
[01:32] <sk1special> any love with how to fix/install drivers for my wireless card?
[01:33] <pleanbean> Ok, now I have a weird issue. Basically, either drive I boot to goes to GRUB.
[01:33] <SchrodingersScat> !broadcom | sk1special
[01:33] <JENelson> pleanbean, Some BIOS can be configured to ignore drives. make sure yours says "auto" or something like that, for the sdb drive
[01:33] <pleanbean> And GRUB doesn't show my Windows drive. So I'm forced into Ubuntu.
[01:33] <sk1special> 12.04 , i was installing it already tho, internet disconnected, laptop crashed, and now it wont show up in the additional drivers menu
[01:34] <JENelson> pleanbean, i think you have to replace grub on sda with the windows boot loader. i *think* grub just chains to windows, so if the windows boot loader isn't there then grub can't find it.
[01:35] <hitsujiTMO> sk1special: are you able to get on with the wired connection?
[01:35] <sk1special> yeah wired works
[01:35] <pleanbean> So any way to boot into Windows to fix the Windows boot loader?
[01:35] <hitsujiTMO> sk1special: can you run: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && lspci -knn pastebinit
[01:35] <hitsujiTMO> sk1special: can you run: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && lspci -knn | pastebinit
[01:36] <JENelson> pleanbean, from another windows disk. or cdrom. :-)
[01:36] <hitsujiTMO> sk1special: second one sorry
[01:38] <pawprint> how can i use nc (netcat) to listen on port X on localhost and forward it to port Y on a remote machine?
[01:38] <jirido> Hi i would like to install pcmanfm 1.1.4 on my lubuntu 12.04 but when ./configure it complains about libpango beeing less then 1.16.0.. Is there any use that i try to compile pango 1.16.0+ or is it a dead projekt as 12.04 seems to sit with pcmanfm 0.9.10 that keep on crashing..
[01:39] <JENelson> pawprint: run two netcats. pipe the output of the first (listener) into the input of the second (sender)
[01:39] <pawprint> i tried that
[01:39] <pawprint> but i think that only creates communication one-way
[01:39] <pawprint> i want two-way communication
[01:40] <JENelson> can't be done.
[01:40] <JENelson> not like you want.
[01:40] <JENelson> you'd have to use iptables forwarding rules
[01:42] <Richhh> how do I do the equivalent of unplugging my wireless receiver and plugging it back in again, using the console?
[01:43] <Richhh> because I have to do that every time i a boot up at the moment, in order to connect
[01:43] <sk1special> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6806146/
[01:43] <Richhh> ie how do I reset my wireless connection?
[01:44] <blueingress> Hi Guys, How can I move/drag a window/application from top-left window to button-right window? Thanks
[01:44] <teward> Richhh: maybe find the interface name (eth0, wlan0, whatever), and to `sudo ifconfig INTERFACE down; sudo ifconfig INTERFACE up`, but that may be deprecated.
[01:44] <hitsujiTMO> sk1special: rfkill list | pastebinit
[01:45] <rcw2> trying to upgrade my version of pg_dump. it is part of the postgre-xc-client package?
[01:45] <Richhh> teward: i think i tried that before and it didnt work as expected, ill wait briefly for any other replies before trying it again
[01:46] <sk1special> hitsujiTMO, "you are trying to send an empty document"
[01:46] <zdwolfe> When using the --force-yes option in ubuntu, a package prompts for configuration with an ncurses menu. How would I automate a response to this?
[01:47] <JENelson> zdwolfe, what command? there should be an option to disable prompting
[01:47] <Richhh> teward: ok, thanks ill try it now
[01:47] <hitsujiTMO> sk1special: is that the same for: sudo rfkill list | pastebinit
[01:47] <zdwolfe> JENelson: apt-get install --force-yes <package> launches a debconf ncurses menu
[01:47] <sk1special> hitsujiTMO, yeah same
[01:47] <zdwolfe> not evey package, just a specific one
[01:48] <Minnen> hello
[01:48] <hitsujiTMO> sk1special: then looks to be an issue with the driver. you might want to restart the process of installing the driver
[01:48] <JENelson> zdwolfe, try the option "--yes"
[01:49] <sk1special> hitsujiTMO, yeah ..but it doesnt show it anymore in the additional drivers menu. how do i do it?
[01:49] <JENelson> zdwolfe, if that doesn't work, maybe both?
[01:49] <zdwolfe> JENelson: that's just an alias for --force-yes
[01:50] <hitsujiTMO> sk1special: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BroadcomSTA(Wireless)
[01:50] <hitsujiTMO> sk1special: yours is in the first batch
[01:51] <sk1special> hitsujiTMO, mmk. do i need to uninstall whatevers on there somehow? or just follow whatever that says?
[01:51] <JENelson> zdwolfe, ok. is the debconf asking you to do something other than respond yes/no?
[01:52] <hitsujiTMO> sk1special: i'm unsure what drivers it would have installed when you used jockey. try what it says there
[01:52] <pleanbean> JENelson, ok so repairing the Windows drive isn't working. What are my other options? Repartition and install?
[01:52] <sk1special> hitsujiTMO, mmk. thanks
[01:52] <JENelson> pleanbean, yep. you could skip the repartition step if you like.
[01:53] <pleanbean> I don't have to repartition to fix MBR/grub issues?
[01:53] <JENelson> if you install windows it will automatically install its own boot loader, wiping out grub
[01:54] <JENelson> if you are paranoid, unplug sdb before you start :-)
[01:55] <zdwolfe> It looks like Ubuntu is ignoring the DEBIAN_FRONTEND environment variable for debconf. How can I set this?
[01:56] <JENelson> zdwolfe, no idea. Try "# DEBIAN_FRONTEND=xyzzy apt-get install foo"??
[01:58] <mojtaba> Hi, I have a mp4 file and a text files with movide's subtitles. Do you know how can I see them while playing movie?
[02:01] <hoodedice> Hello
[02:01] <zdwolfe> JENelson: tried it, no luck
[02:01] <hoodedice> I'm running xubuntu off a USB drive due to lack of space on my main HDD
[02:02] <hoodedice> But it sucks at read speeds, so the OS lags.
[02:02] <hoodedice> I found THIS page: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1867460 and I want to try it out
[02:02] <hoodedice> But where exactly is the 'option line of kernel' in grub.cfg ?
[02:05] <hoodedice> Anyone?
[02:05] <JENelson> hoodedice, you have to specify pci=acpi manually when you boot from the usb stick. Alternatively, google for instructions on "customizing your own usb boot" (or something like that)
[02:05] <hoodedice> manually, as in, run a command line or something from the boot menu?
[02:06] <Oobi_> help
[02:07] <Oobi_> i just installed ubuntu, because bill gates is rich enough
[02:07] <Oobi_> but i don't know how to minimize windows
[02:07] <hoodedice> (lol)
[02:07] <Oobi_> how do you minimize
[02:07] <JENelson> hoodedice, no. when you power on the PC and the device auto-boots from the usb stick... you have to break in and get a boot prompt so you can modify the kernel boot command. I don't know if you can do that with the usb boot process (i've never tried it)
[02:07] <Oobi_> make it smaller instead of fullscreen
[02:08] <hoodedice> The minus button on the left side
[02:08] <Oobi_> i don't see any minus button
[02:08] <Oobi_> it just goes straight from firefox to the sidebar
[02:08] <Oobi_> i'm using the newest verise
[02:08] <Oobi_> 13.10 i think
[02:08] <Oobi_> version
[02:08] <JENelson> Oobi_, double-click on the title bar of the window
[02:09] <JENelson> it's a toggle: full screen or not, where "not" is the size it was before you maximized it
[02:10] <hoodedice> Wait, not the minus... No plus button in ubuntu?
[02:10] <Oobi_> i hope ubuntu doesn't have NSA backdoors
[02:10] <hoodedice> Lol, no. But your ISP might.
[02:10] <net_tec> lol
[02:10] <Oobi_> time warner cable here
[02:10] <JoshuaP> lol
[02:10] <JENelson> hoodedice, depends on the display manager. Unity doesn't have them.
[02:10] <JoshuaP> comcast
[02:10] <Oobi_> is that a nice ISP, Or an evil one that gives everything you do to the NSA
[02:10] <hoodedice> Just turn off the amazon scopes and you're good to go
[02:11] <hoodedice> Hmm, I last used unity for 15 minutes a year ago... XD
[02:11] <Oobi_> or FBI or CIA or DHS or RIAA Or MPAA Or whatever
[02:12] <hoodedice> JE, USB boot process is same as HDD, because I actually 'installed' ubuntu into it. So, I'll reboot and try it out. Thanks
[02:13] <jirido> can i install multiple versions of a library without it is disturbs anything?
[02:13] <Oobi_> where do i find the hard drive space
[02:13] <Oobi_> in system settings
[02:15] <hitsujiTMO> !manual | Oobi_ maybe you should have a read of this
[02:17] <hitsujiTMO> jirido: that depends on the lib. which one is it?
[02:17] <net_tec> lol there's a manual
[02:17] <net_tec> he's thanks for the info
[02:17] <mojtaba>  Hi, I have a mp4 file and a text files with movide's subtitles. Do you know how can I see them while playing movie?
[02:18] <pleanbean> JENelson: So I got Windows to boot smoothly. But GRUB still doesnt show the Windows drive
[02:18] <JENelson> mojtaba, print the text file and read it as you watch the movie?
[02:18] <hitsujiTMO> jirido: a good way to find out is look at the conflicts: apt-cache show <packagename> | grep Conflicts
[02:19] <mojtaba> JENelson: I am looking for smarter solutions.
[02:19] <mojtaba> JENelson: I want to have it in the video's window.
[02:19] <jirido> hitsujiTMO: Thanks!
[02:20] <JENelson> mojtaba, good luck. i doubt you'll find any. the subtitles must obviously be timed to appear at the correct moment. unless you have that info, you're stuck. If you do have it, you could write a program to insert it into the mp4 at the appropriate spots. :-)
[02:21] <hoodedice> JENelson, that didn't work
[02:21] <mojtaba> JENelson: before I have seen, just by changing the name of the text file to the video file, the player was showing the text!
[02:21] <hoodedice> Partly because GRUB is darn confusing
[02:23] <mghola> anybody know much about test disk?
[02:23] <mghola> or photorec?
[02:23] <jirido> hitsujiTMO: if configure makes out ok is it strange if make says : cc1: some warnings being treated as errors
[02:23] <jirido> and dont make out
[02:25] <JENelson> pleanbean, now that you've reinstalled windows, boot ubuntu and run grub-mkconfig
[02:25] <JENelson> pleanbean, you should now see an entry for windows in the boot configuration
[02:27] <JENelson> pleanbean, if that doesn't work, go check out /etc/grub.d/README. There *is* a way, but you might have to enable it.
[02:28] <jirido> I try to install a newer pcmanfm and make seems to complain about : cc1: some warnings being treated as errors
[02:28] <pleanbean> Yeah, grub-mkconfig said some stuff about Windows. Now should I reboot and check?
[02:28] <hoodedice> JE, do you think GRUB customizer might help me here?
[02:28] <JENelson> hoodedice, "it didn't work" is not that useful. Do you have any more details?
[02:28] <jirido> make[4]: *** [libfm_gtk_la-fm-cell-renderer-text.lo] Fel 1
[02:29] <hoodedice> The GRUB config was too confusing. Also, the help wasn't very helpful.
[02:29] <JENelson> pleanbean, no, you don't have to. look at the file /boot/grub/grub.cfg. if windows is in there, you're all set
[02:29] <hoodedice> So, yeah, I couldn't config it
[02:29] <jirido> How could i get on from there?
[02:29] <pleanbean> JENelson, too late, already rebooted, and its not there.
[02:30] <JENelson> hoodedice, when the system boots do you see the grub boot menu?
[02:30] <hoodedice> No. I press Ctrl+C
[02:31] <JENelson> hoodedice, does anything happen? have you tried ESC?
[02:31] <pleanbean> JENelson: Windows is not in grub.cfg
[02:31] <hoodedice> And the GRUB pops up
[02:31] <hoodedice> Owait. Yes, the GRUB boot menu DOES pop up, sorry.
[02:32] <JENelson> hoodedice, ok, that's good. now type the letter 'e' on the boot item you want to change
[02:32] <hoodedice> Hmm, I do that
[02:33] <hoodedice> And then I press F2, or CTrl+C?
[02:33] <JENelson> hoodedice, no. you'll see another window with a bunch of lines. navigate to the one with 'vmlinuz' using arrow keys. append 'pci=acpi' at the end. press F10.
[02:34] <hoodedice> okay. Will try that now. Rebooting. Thanks
[02:34] <JENelson> hoodedice, yw
[02:35] <JENelson> pleanbean, check out /etc/grub.d/README and 30_os-prober
[02:36] <mojtaba>  Hi, I have a mp4 file and a text files with movide's subtitles. Do you know how can I see them while playing movie?
[02:38] <pleanbean> JENelson: I ran update-grub and it added the Windows 7 entries... Now the only issue is there are two Windows 7 entries (sda1 and sda2). How do I remove one?
[02:39] <siren_face2000> I've got a question here
[02:39] <somsip> mojtaba: the text file needs to be in a supported format for subtitles. Is it?
[02:39] <siren_face2000> is there a way that I can pre-install GRUB to either my external drive or my computer's hard drive?
[02:40] <mojtaba> somsip: what is that format? I have just typed the subtitle.
[02:41] <JENelson> pleanbean, you have two windows boot partitions. You could manually edit grub.cfg and remove one of them. you could initialize the partition you want to eliminate.
[02:41] <somsip> mojtaba: there are many. I suggest you do some research
[02:41] <mojtaba> ok, thanks.
[02:42] <hoodedice> JENelson, Thank you very much. The job was done, but I see no acceptable or even obvious changes in read speed. I guess that this means that the pci acpi thing does not affect my hardware and will now try running ubuntu from RAM. Thank you very much again.
[02:44] <pleanbean> JENelson, ok. What does "initialize the partition you want to eliminate" mean?
[02:45] <JENelson> hoodedice, glad to hear you were able to test the solution. you're welcome.
[02:46] <JENelson> pleanbean, do you want to completely eliminate one of the windows installations? if so,  you can reformat the partition. you will wipe out ALL files in that partition, windows and otherwise. make sure you have everything copied out of it first.
[02:46] <pleanbean> JENelson, no way, no need to do that. Just get rid of it in the grub menu.
[02:47] <JENelson> pleanbean, you're outside my level of experience. the file /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober is the one that adds the windows entries. Maybe read it to see if there's a way to disable it from being entered? Oh oh oh..hang on
[02:48] <pleanbean> JENelson, grub.cfg specifically says "DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE". You sure I can manually edit it?
[02:51] <rcw2> for this 'http://www.postgresql.org/download/linux/ubuntu/' here: 'Create the file /etc/apt/sources.list.d/pgdg.list, and add a line for the repository' i need the correct exact url. can someone verify that this is correct for k13.10 64bit? http://apt.postgresql.org/pub/repos/apt/dists/precise-pgdg/main/Contents-amd64.gz
[02:52] <dash444_> hi #ubuntu, this should be an easy question, but standard solutions not working. how can i completely reset/replace/reinstall unity to factory settings?
[02:52] <JENelson> rcw2, look at an existing file, copy a working entry, then modify to match what you were told. then try "apt-get update" to make sure it works.
[02:53] <rcw2> what file JENelson
[02:53] <rcw2> what existing file
[02:53] <IdleOne> dash444_: reinstall
[02:54] <JENelson> rcw2, any inside /etc/apt/ or /etc/apt/sources.list/
[02:55] <dash444_> IdleOne: clarification, 'without reinstalling'. i can create a new user with the settings with no problems, but my current user gets bad graphics when i click on "Dash Home", so how can i eliminate problem seen by current user?
[02:58] <dash444_> i want to reset USER_1's Unity settings so that i eliminate graphics problem when i used "Dash Home". curious, i can create a NEW_USER on the same machine and have no graphics problems with "Dash Home". how can i fix this?
[02:59] <octocodercat> Dash Home - is that like Rainbow Dash?
[02:59] <dash444_> octocodercat: "Dash Home" the top left button in the Launcher when using Unity Desktop
[03:00] <octocodercat> Rainbow Dash
[03:00] <octocodercat> yay
[03:01] <tree_samurai> Hey
[03:01] <tree_samurai> What's up?
[03:02] <wolfzrat> hi guys anyone here banned from a channel before
[03:02] <Logan_> !offtopic | wolfzrat
[03:03] <tree_samurai> Hey I have a question
[03:04] <tree_samurai> If I broke grub and Ubuntu nor super grub won't run, what are my options?
[03:04] <Gandi> what is /etc/xdg/user-dirs.conf?
[03:06] <phil-ns> this upgrade to 13.10 is quite the treat eh? learned lots about config from it, even though my first *nix install was 1998
[03:08] <phil-ns> just 5 mins ago had to blow away my .Xauthority file, just to get back into a display manager
[03:09] <wolfzrat> Logan_, ubottu guys sorry for the incovientet of topic question wont happen again =0
[03:09] <zykotick9> phil-ns: do you use sudo with GUI apps?  most common cause of .Xauthority corruption (being owned by root).
[03:12] <tree_samurai> Sorry broke up
[03:12] <phil-ns> zykotick9: nope, in fact I eschew gui, last week I changed my system over to xfce and blew away all the gnome cruft completely, only xfce and only lightdm.
[03:12] <tree_samurai> I tried grub channel and nobody was there
[03:13] <phil-ns> zykotick9: the really sh!tty thing, I know exactly when it happened, one simple thing, I booted to my windows7 partition.
[03:13] <tree_samurai> Do any of u know grub
[03:13] <JENelson> tree_samurai, boot from usb stick or cdrom and run boot-repair
[03:14] <rcw2> hi, i just installed this: http://www.enterprisedb.com/products-services-training/pgdownload , and i have a directory here: /opt/PostgreSQL/9.3/bin that has pg_dump in the directory.  i run pg_dump from inside that directory but it says 'The program 'pg_dump' can be found in the following packages:......"  any suggestions?
[03:14] <tree_samurai> Ok thanks, will try USB, just didn't know if there was a better way
[03:14] <phil-ns> JENelson: hmm, boot-repair? was tree's issue he installed 13.10 and no longer had a windows partition?
[03:15] <tree_samurai> It isn't a boot repair issue though
[03:15] <slacko253281> umm
[03:15] <tree_samurai> Super grub should have fixed it, but nothing happened
[03:15] <phil-ns> fair enough, just asked cause I needed it last week after 13.10
[03:15] <phil-ns> and it works very well
[03:15] <tree_samurai> It was a old ver of ubuntu
[03:16] <JENelson> tree_samurai, oh wait. sorry, i didn't understand the problem.
[03:16] <phil-ns> ah yes, the grub 1.x vs grub 2.x
[03:17] <JENelson> tree_samurai, i guess you'll have to restate the problem. i am heading to dinner so I hope someone else can help.
[03:18] <tree_samurai> Ty
[03:20] <kbr729472> in my alt-F2 box, what would the command be to open a program that runs inside of the terminal, like midnight commander or ranger?
[03:20] <dash444_> hello, any ideas on resetting unity or deleting all unity's files and reinstalling? i have a graphics problem that only shows up for one USER in "Dash Home"
[03:20] <zykotick9> kbr729472: assuming xterm, try "xterm -e mc" type thing.  change xterm to your terminal emulator of choice.
[03:21] <Derzu> Someone knows moonos?
[03:21] <Gandi> if during install i click encrypt my home folder will /root folder also be encrypted? ubu 13.10
[03:22] <kbr729472> zykotick9: ya that did it, thank you. :)
[03:22] <kbr729472> didn't know about -e
[03:23] <Derzu> I can't install aditional driver in order to use wireless driver.
[03:23] <Derzu> How can I do that?
[03:45] <oo__> k
[03:49] <rostam> Hi I am trying to compile a package which reqiures a head file from boost library  version libboost1.49.-dev as part of quantal, but my system is on precise (12.04) how could I use that library in precise? thx
[03:51] <ramborocks> why cant i format my flash drive
[03:51] <ramborocks> i right click in ubuntu and go format and it doesnt do anything
[03:52] <oo__> k
[03:52] <Beldar> ramborocks, try the disks app or install gparted see if that works.
[03:53] <oo__> l
[03:54] <ramborocks> ahh just figured it out
[03:54] <ramborocks> had to unmount it lol
[03:56] <oo__> hi all
[03:56] <oo__> what is it?
[03:59] <phil-ns> it is what it is
[04:02] <siren_face2000> Hi!
[04:02] <siren_face2000> I have created a separate partition on my 3 TB external drive for GRUB
[04:03] <sk1special> if i do sudo apt-get upgrade it will Not upgrade me to the next release right?
[04:04] <siren_face2000> but, I want to know how to pre-install GRUB to the pre-made partition
[04:04] <zykotick9> sk1special: NO.  infact, even "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" WON'T upgrade you to the next release ;)
[04:07] <sk1special> zykotick9, ah mmk. just making sure. took me all day to fix this wireless card..didnt want to do it again
[04:09] <babinlonston> i want to setup squid proxy in our office, And How can i setup the proxy port in interface ? i don't want to setup the port in browser's because they used to change it, instead of it how can i configure the port in /etc/interfaces ?
[04:11] <siren_face2000> can someone help me pre-install grub?
[04:11] <Jordan_U> siren_face2000: What do you meant by "pre-install"?
[04:12] <siren_face2000> I have made a dedicated partition on my external drive for GRUB
[04:12] <siren_face2000> I'm in Ubuntu Studio 13.10
[04:12] <siren_face2000> I have a 3 TB external drive
[04:13] <Jordan_U> siren_face2000: I assume you're doing this because you plan to have multiple GNU/Linux distros installed and want grub to be in a separate partition so that any of them can be deleted without breaking grub. If that's not your end goal, please state your end goal.
[04:13] <siren_face2000> well, I am doing this separately from my windows hard drive.
[04:15] <siren_face2000> I used GParted to do it
[04:17] <siren_face2000> and I have downloaded & extracted GRUB 2 to the dedicated partition
[04:18] <Jordan_U> siren_face2000: What is your end goal? Why not use the normal configuration of grub in Ubuntu? The normal configuration being: grub's images and grub.cfg in /boot/grub/, which is a directory in your root partition rather than on a separate partition, and (for BIOS systems) grub's boot sector in the MBR or (for UEFI systems) the grub efi binary in the EFI System Partition.
[04:18] <siren_face2000> should I just let the Ubuntu installer take care of that?
[04:19] <Jordan_U> siren_face2000: Yes.
[04:19] <siren_face2000> ok
[04:19] <siren_face2000> but I am running a UEFI system
[04:20] <siren_face2000> I did buy the external drive within the last year.
[04:25] <siren_face2000> about partitioning..... I need to figure out what partitions to make
[04:27] <vite> how do I change the file properties so that it can only be executed by the root?
[04:27] <LuffyMcFluffy> @vite use chmod
[04:27] <Jordan_U> !permissions | vite
[04:27] <vite> thanks
[04:28] <Jordan_U> vite: Depending on the current owner you may need a combination of chmod and chown. What file are you trying to make only executable by root and why?
[04:28] <vite> python script that auths me to the bitcoin-otc
[04:29] <vite> I want to be able to double click and make it run
[04:29] <vite> without having to open a terminal
[04:29] <Jordan_U> vite: You've just given two reasons why it *shouldn't* be run as root then.
[04:30] <RahulAN> Hii all
[04:30] <vite> well not the root. the owner of the file
[04:30] <Jordan_U> vite: That's very different :)
[04:31] <RahulAN> I am try ing to connect my HUWAii dongle but its not showing itself in network. but it is showing in lsusb that the device is connected.
[04:31] <RahulAN> I am unable to identify whats the problem is
[04:34] <jhutchins> !huwaii
[04:35] <jhutchins> Bother, we have something...
[04:35] <vite> now it opens a window with three options execute, execute in terminal, open
[04:35] <vite> the only one that works is view file
[04:39] <mrjuicybox> yo?
[04:44] <Gandi> how can i move /boot to a new parition?
[04:44] <Gandi> and make it work from there
[04:49] <ki7rw> why doesn't /ignore work in quassel?
[04:49] <JoshuaP> KI7MT: because the developers of quassel were too lazy to implement such a feature.
[04:50] <JoshuaP> ki7rw: ^
[04:50] <JoshuaP> KI7MT: sorry about that :/
[04:50] <harrisr> (harrisr) (harrisr) Does flashing Ubuntu touch void square trade warranty
[04:50] <vite> ok I got the permission for the file.py to executable and it runs
[04:51] <vite> from the command line
[04:51] <vite> but when I double click it does not work
[04:51] <RahulAN> jhutchins: Hmm, it is Tata photon CDMA Molile broadband connection
[04:51] <Beldar> !touch | harrisr
[04:51] <harrisr> BeldR #ubuntu-touchis not active
[04:53] <vite> nevermind I forgot to set the file.py to open with terminal
[04:53] <Beldar> harrisr, hmm, that is where the touch is supported.
[04:54] <harrisr>  No one ia talking in it i asked
[04:55] <tree_samurai> We'll
[04:55] <tree_samurai> This sux
[04:58] <Kalel> Greetings..
[04:59] <tree_samurai> Yes?
[04:59] <Kalel> You guys know something about Crystal HD firmware present on ubuntu repo?
[04:59] <Kalel> I'd llike to test it as a decoder to streams.. Is it a good idea:
[05:01] <Kalel> Lots souls, No live to give me a tip..
[05:01] <Kalel> Thank you anyway.
[05:01] <tree_samurai> Sorry
[05:01] <tree_samurai> Good luck
[05:01] <Kalel> I know
[05:11] <SonikkuAmerica> Only 72 hours until 13.04 support is gone, gone, gone!!
[05:13] <harrisr> (harrisr) (harrisr) Does flashing Ubuntu touch void square trade warranty
[05:14] <SonikkuAmerica> What's "square trade" warranty?
[05:14] <sk1special> "file system something something dev/cryptswap/something something is not yet ready or not present press s to skip mounting.." why do i get this?
[05:15] <harrisr> (harrisr) (harrisr) Does flashing Ubuntu touch void square trade warranty
[05:15] <somsip> sk1special_: a HD is not being recognised for some reason? Check dmesg for more info, and possibly paste full error messages using paste.ubuntu.com
[05:15] <somsip> !touch | harrisr
[05:16] <harrisr> Somsip ubuntu-touch is a dead channel
[05:16] <sk1special_> somsip, idk its when first starting ubuntu, and everything seems to be working fine? im just scared something got installed on the usb stick i used to install it instead of the hdd
[05:17] <SonikkuAmerica> sk1special_: I'm guessing something happened to your swap space, but I can't place a finger on it...
[05:17] <somsip> harrisr: it is the place for discussion about ubuntu touch whether it's alive or not right now.
[05:17] <somsip> sk1special_: I suggested what you need to look at already
[05:18] <sk1special_> somsip, how do i do that? like now in terminal? or when its starting or?
[05:19] <somsip> sk1special_: you can 'dmesg | less' then scroll through, or search using '/swap' or '/error' or something like that
[05:21] <sk1special_> somsip, EXT4-fs (sda1): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro
[05:23] <somsip> sk1special_: looks normal. Before I suggest t9o paste the whole thing (not here), is swap currently enabled?
[05:23] <sk1special_> somsip, dont know?
[05:24] <manju> hi guys
[05:24] <manju> i have problem on ubuntu server
[05:25] <somsip> sk1special_: and I found this which seems the same as your error. Have a read through. http://is.gd/dgaLcG
[05:25] <sk1special_> lemme restart and get the exact message brb
[05:28] <jKlaus> Hey guys, I was wondering if anything ever happened with the Ubuntu Mini PC?
[05:30] <idowi> is anybody familiar with a bug in intel USB 3.0 controller drivers? it seems lots of usb devices have problems with these controllers.
[05:31] <sk1special> "the disk drive for dev/mapper/cryptswap1 is not yet ready or not present" " continue, skip, or wait"
[05:32] <somsip> sk1special: the link I posted might still apply
[05:35] <sk1special> somsip,i dont think so? it shows my swap as having space to use just none used
[05:35] <Habster> can someone help with changing language to english, I cant read the menu options in control panel, for doing the switch
[05:35] <somsip> sk1special: what, exactly, shows that?
[05:36] <ezrhino> hello. Is Ubuntu recycle bin delete a true secure delete?
[05:36] <somsip> ezrhino: no
[05:36] <ezrhino> can it be ?
[05:37] <sk1special> somsip, ah free -m , and under swap: shows 1980 total, used 0 , 1980 free. unless im looking at the wrong thing?
[05:37] <ezrhino> similar to Windows and SDelete
[05:37] <oo_> s
[05:38] <ezrhino> can i disable showing a windows contents when dragging ?
[05:38] <somsip> ezrhino: I understand that 'shred' is the command you need. I suppose you could replace the recycle bin icon with a custom launcher using shred: eg, http://is.gd/InCo9I
[05:38] <ezrhino> ty, somsip
[05:38] <SonikkuAmerica> oo_: s == secure
[05:38] <oo_> thx
[05:39] <SonikkuAmerica> oo_: At least in "SDelete" it does
[05:40] <oo_> how to install tar.gz?
[05:40] <somsip> oo_: what package is it?
[05:52] <rxwy00> exit
[05:52] <sk1special> no more thoughts?
[05:53] <thom_r> Anyone here have iTunes installed with Wine?
[05:54] <qin> !winehq
[05:59] <somsip> sk1special: I don't have an answer, but searching for your exact error message brings loads of possibly helpful information: 'the disk drive for dev/mapper/cryptswap1 is not yet ready or not present' Maybe that is something you can look at while waiting for help from someone who knows the answer
[05:59] <ruth> guys, I found online some commands to make netflix work. I didn't get pipelight out of our software. How can I  delete  it in the terminal?
[06:01] <sk1special> somsip, yeah no worries. just thought you might have another idea, thank ya for the help
[06:09] <ruth> Hi, I found online pipelight to make netflix work not knowing we had pipelight in our software center. I want to delete what I put in the terminal and download it from our software.
[06:10] <ruth> I should say that I want to delete the commands I put in the terminal.
[06:11] <pradnesh> What did you type to install?
[06:12] <ruth> Let me find the site real quick.
[06:13] <ruth> WEB UPD8.org/2013/08/pipelight-use-silverlight-in-your-linux.html        here are all the commands for netflis
[06:14] <ruth> just a series of commands
[06:15] <pradnesh_> ruth: your issue is sorted?
[06:16] <ruth> What do you mean by "sorted"?
[06:20] <Muneeb> hi
[06:27] <[LA_CONEJITA> --• -.- •--
[06:27] <grahamsavage> i'm using ubuntu and chrome
[06:28] <grahamsavage> my internet connection is terrible and i suffer from very large packet loss... this for some reason affects the entire operating system.  windows take a long time to paint
[06:28] <grahamsavage> things run slowly.. all while cpu and memory are normal
[06:28] <Muneeb> #freenode
[06:29] <grahamsavage> I have 4 cpu's most of which run on very little... i have 32gb of memory (only 11.6gb used)
[06:29] <grahamsavage> packet loss is around 41%
[06:30] <_1_htds> sesso
[06:31] <EminentDomain> anyone here know anything about using mdadm to configure software RAID?
[06:33] <Elembis> I tried upgrading to 12.10 on a laptop with a non-PAE CPU, and now I appear stuck: chrooting from a liveCD tells me the distribution is 12.10, but I can't install linux-image-generic, since it depends on linux-image-3.5.0-45-generic, which doesn't support non-PAE CPUs.
[06:34] <SonikkuAmerica> You would be right...
[06:35] <Elembis> lsb_release -a says 12.10, quantal.
[06:35] <SonikkuAmerica> Elembis: There is a Lubuntu remix on the way that "fakes" the PAE so that the latest kernel is installable
[06:36] <Elembis> How can I just get back to 12.04?
[06:36] <SonikkuAmerica> Elembis: Get a 12.04 Live image and reinstall...
[06:36] <Elembis> >_<
[06:37] <Elembis> That will work, it's just annoying. Thanks for your help.
[06:38] <SonikkuAmerica> :) yw
[06:54] <sk1special> so did all this stuff .. http://tinyurl.com/k7zd37g , didnt fix it
[06:56] <phong__> hi guys, why ubuntu is getting slower
[06:56] <phong__> i have 13.10
[06:56] <phong__> used to be fast at 10.x up
[06:57] <somsip> phong__: did you reinstall or upgrade?
[06:57] <phong__> install fresh
[06:57] <phong__> take sometime to boot to windows screen
[06:57] <phong__> weird
[06:57] <phong__> and i have so fast system
[06:57] <somsip> phong__: so once it's started up it;s fine?
[06:57] <phong__> yeap
[07:00] <phong__> is there a good 3d test for ubuntu?
[07:00] <phong__> i have GTX 580
[07:01] <phong__> i think ubuntu will run well on SSD
[07:01] <phong__> not on disk
[07:02] <mobiesoba> hey is there a guide to turning a laptop with 2 NICs into a router?
[07:03] <Xiaclo> Does anyone know how df calculates usage?  tune2fs has a different idea of total space (free and used are even further off)
[07:10] <JordanJ2> Hello, I am trying to run ubuntu in a VMWare virtual machine, but it is awful choppy. Can I fix this?
[07:12] <somsip> JordanJ2: how much memory have you given it? What is the host machine spec?
[07:12] <mobiesoba> hey is there a guide to turning a laptop with 2 NICs into a router?
[07:14] <JordanJ2> somsip: 2GB I gave it
[07:14] <pope_2424> hello, does anyone know how to download latest version of chromium?
[07:15] <somsip> JordanJ2: should be plenty. So you're running a GUI with it? Could it be a video RAM issue (I've never used a GUI on VM so I'm guessing here)
[07:17] <JordanJ2> I am using a GUI, yes
[07:17] <mobiesoba> hey is there a guide to turning a laptop with 2 NICs into a router?
[07:18] <siren_face2000> I am SO mad at myself
[07:18] <JordanJ2> I am running also a 126MB VPS would it be a good idea to load Ubuntu and have plenty of RAM left over?
[07:19] <siren_face2000> I damaged my external drive, can't fix the bad sectors, and I hate my computer's BIOS.
[07:19] <siren_face2000> I also hate Intel.
[07:19] <siren_face2000> I should've gotten an AMD computer like I had the last time I bought one.
[07:20] <siren_face2000> I am so mad at myself it's unbelievable.
[07:21] <siren_face2000> sorry if I'm ranting
[07:24] <somsip> siren_face2000: it's probably time to stop now.
[07:33] <BigBang> Hi guys. I'm trying to install Ubuntu. But my network interface doesn't get any DHCP-config. How can I fix that?
[07:35] <Guest35004> Has anybody an idea?
[07:42] <Guest35004> Why doesn't get my computer dhcp-configuration data during Ubuntu-Installation?
[07:42] <helmut_> hi
[07:46] <Seveas> Guest35004: because your DHCP server is failing?
[07:50] <TamCore> Guest35004: maybe your cable isn't plugged in? :D
[07:53] <Guest35004> TamCore: No it's plugged in.
[07:54] <Guest35004> How can I fix this? I've no idea
[07:57] <makara> Guest35004, give more info about your pc
[07:58] <makara> Guest35004, open a terminal. Can you do that?
[08:00] <Guest35004> makara: Now I've a terminal open. What do I have to do now?
[08:00] <makara> sudo -i
[08:00] <makara> ifconfig
[08:01] <makara> tell me the name of the interfaces you see. Should be 2 or 3
[08:01] <Guest35004> makara: ok
[08:01] <Guest35004> makara: what now?
[08:02] <makara> the names of the interfaces please
[08:02] <makara> left column
[08:02] <Guest35004> eth0 and lo
[08:02] <makara> what version of Ubuntu?
[08:02] <Guest35004> Ubuntu 13.10 (saucy)
[08:03] <makara> Guest35004, for eth0, is there an `inet addr` ?
[08:03] <Guest35004> makara: Unfortunately no
[08:03] <makara> that's good
[08:03] <makara> means you haven't set a hard IP
[08:03] <Guest35004> makara: Ok :). What do I have to do now?
[08:03] <makara> status network-manager
[08:04] <Guest35004> makara: running
[08:04] <makara> Guest35004, what router are you using?
[08:04] <Guest35004> makara: I'm in a company. I don't know.
[08:05] <Guest34922> Remember me ... the guy who couldn't empty his Trash?  I tried a new approach ... through Nautilus (on my computer, it comes up as "Files") I got in the directory /.local/share/Trash/ and clicked on the icon for the subdirectory "files".  Before, it would just hang with "preparing to delete" for hours on end.  Now it is listing the files it is preparing to delete ... by the time soneone responds
[08:05] <Guest34922> it'll have reached 1,500,000 files and 19.9GB
[08:05] <Guest34922> That scares me ...
[08:06] <makara> Guest34922, sudo rm -rf ~/.local/share/Trash/
[08:06] <makara> Guest35004, you need to speak to the admin then
[08:07] <Guest34922> makara: I've tried so many things, including your suggestion
[08:07] <makara> Guest35004, do you know the IP of the router at least>
[08:07] <Guest34922> makara: And it hadn't worked
[08:07] <makara> Guest34922, it will work, but some process is broken. You need to deal with that
[08:07] <Guest34922> makara: Why, though, is it telling me that it is preparing to delete 1.5 million files?
[08:08] <Guest34922> makara: And how do I fix that?
[08:08] <somsip> Guest34922: someone yesterday was deleting 12GB and millions of files and having probs. He used 'doublecmd'. No idea what it is but might help (http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/01/23/%23ubuntu.txt)
[08:08] <Guest34922> makara: I mean ... deal with that
[08:08] <makara> Guest35004, you can try set a static IP
[08:09] <lisberoia> Double Commander gives problems when deleting massively -- my personal experience
[08:09] <Guest34922> somsip: Up until this last try, I was NOT able to empty the trash
[08:09] <makara> Guest34922, so nautilus is screwed. Use Marlin or something
[08:09] <Guest35004> makara: Say the IP is <IP_ADDRESS>. How can I fix my problem?
[08:10] <somsip> Guest34922: if it's empty now, fine. If you're still struggling, I offered a suggestion
[08:10] <Guest34922> somsip: Thx
[08:10] <sk1special> so since im bored of my other issue. can anyone tell me why my wireless network only shows up when i click hidden networks? and Its not showing as hidden anywhere else
[08:10] <makara> Guest35004, you set your ip to <IP_ADDRESS>: stop network-manager & ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:11] <zooptwo> Hello, I am having problems getting a system to boot.  It is hanging saying that it cannot mount a remote CIFS share.  Although that share is accessable, and the network interface on the box being booted is online and pingable.  Wondering if someone knows a trick. ;)
[08:11] <Guest34922> somsip: It isn't empty, it just tells me that it is preparing to delete ... and telling me how many files (didn't know I had space for so many files) and the size.
[08:11] <CookiesRgooD> hey there guys
[08:11] <makara> Guest35004, but there might be conflict with another client on your subnet who has been assigned that address from the DHCP
[08:11] <CookiesRgooD> i have a quick question for all of you.
[08:11] <makara> Guest35004, so you need to know what range of IPs are in use, and which are open
[08:11] <Guest34922> somsip: I will leave that option (double commander) open if I can't find another solution
[08:12] <CookiesRgooD> i've setup a static ip with ssh into my RPI. When I attempt to connect my wifi dongle, my RPI seems to not connect via eth0. Would anyone be able to explain to me why?
[08:12] <makara> zooptwo, CIFS shouldn't be necessary at boot. You can remove it from /etc/fstab
[08:13] <somsip> Guest35004: read up on it if you are going to use it. It's 'doublecmd'
[08:13] <zooptwo> Yea, but I can't get it to boot.
[08:13] <zooptwo> to change it.
[08:13] <CookiesRgooD> any thoughts?
[08:13] <makara> zooptwo, boot from live CD
[08:13] <zooptwo> Unfortunately it is at a datacenter.
[08:14] <CookiesRgooD> i've setup a static ip with ssh into my RPI. When I attempt to connect my wifi dongle, my RPI seems to not connect via eth0. Would anyone be able to explain to me why?
[08:14] <zooptwo> Thanks though.
[08:14] <makara> zooptwo, I messed up the fstab once, and we were able to mount the virtual disk onto another instance, edit the fstab, and put it back again
[08:15] <makara> zooptwo, that was with Amazon. Not sure how flexible your provider is?
[08:15] <CookiesRgooD> i've setup a static ip with ssh into my RPI. When I attempt to connect my wifi dongle, my RPI seems to not connect via eth0. Would anyone be able to explain to me why?
[08:15] <zooptwo> No worries just didn't know if there were any other tricks.  I will figure a way to get it on a live CD
[08:15] <zooptwo> Was thinking of shutting the switchport interfaces down to make the network actually down.  Then maybe it would pass that point.
[08:16] <mikeirc> Is someone can know how to connect by default with the last used network profile on ubuntu 13.10
[08:17] <CookiesRgooD> anyone?
[08:18] <somsip> CookiesRgooD: are you referring to setting up your Raspi, or a ubuntu machine to connect to it?
[08:18] <tapamo> how to connect by default with the last network profile on ubuntu 13.10
[08:18] <CookiesRgooD> rpi
[08:18] <CookiesRgooD> raspi
[08:18] <somsip> CookiesRgooD: this is ubuntu support. You need a raspi support channel
[08:19] <CookiesRgooD> i was told you guys might be able to help me out since its somewhat close
[08:19] <CookiesRgooD> but if you guys dont know.
[08:19] <CookiesRgooD> lol true
[08:19] <somsip> CookiesRgooD: someone was having you on. Try a raspi channel. The forums are very good
[08:19] <Thrasymachus> 2224/j raspi
[08:19] <CookiesRgooD> sounds good. thank you
[08:21] <tapamo> how to connect by default with the last network profile on ubuntu 13.10
[08:21] <vincenzoml> Hi all. I have a laptop with only ubuntu 13.10, booting on UEFI since I previously had windows (RIP). I just installed ubuntustudio but the system still boots the previous system
[08:22] <EmirX> hello people... I just need a quick tip... How do I manualy enter location in gnome-commander, like I would do in totatl commander on windows ?
[08:24] <tapamo> Hi to all
[08:24] <vincenzoml> on the ubuntustudio channel I learned that ubuntustudio's default kernel is not signed; how could I add some boot stanza to ubuntu's grub to boot the other distributions' grub?
[08:24] <tapamo> I have a problem with my network connection on ubuntu 13.10
[08:25] <tapamo> how to connect with the last used network profile ?
[08:25] <tapamo> by default of course
[08:27] <TJ-> vincenzoml: If it's another grub you could use 'chainloader +1' with the appropriate "set root=hdx,partY" prior to it
[08:27] <zooptwo> I have anotheer question the,  For some reason when the system is booting I never See the Grub Menu.  Is there something I am missing?
[08:27] <TJ-> zooptwo: By default GRUB menu is hidden unless you're pressing Shift key as GRUB starts
[08:27] <zooptwo> awesome!
[08:27] <vincenzoml> TJ: do you mean, by editing /etc/grub.d/40_custom ?
[08:27] <zooptwo> thanks ;)
[08:28] <zooptwo> Just need to pass the single user mode option.
[08:28] <vincenzoml> TJ: do you have a link to an example?
[08:29] <TJ-> vincenzoml: There's a better way, to avoid "update-grub" messing with it... just add your "other OS" 'menuentry' stanza in "/boot/grub/custom.cfg"
[08:30] <defk53> is their a way to rollback unity to earlier versions? Have tried looking everywhere. none seems to be talking about it. (http://bfiller.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/unity-2d-apps.png)
[08:30] <vincenzoml> TJ-: that file does not exist, shall I create it and add a "menuentry "..." {" there directly and then update-grub?
[08:30] <TJ-> vincenzoml: I don't, mainly because it is very trivial to do: "menuentry 'Chainload Other GRUB' { ; set root='hd1,gpt2' ; chainloader +1: }; "
[08:31] <TJ-> vincenzoml: Yes... create by hand ... if you look at "/etc/grub.d/41_custom" you'll see if includes code in the main grub.cfg that'll read "/grub/custom.cfg" at boot-time
[08:31] <UbuntuUser1234> Is it possible to disable USB charging of an attached device on Ubuntu?
[08:32] <TJ-> vincenzoml: s/if includes/it includes/
[08:32] <vincenzoml> TJ-: done that now, and update-grub seems to have given a positive reply, thanks! I'll reboot just in seconds
[08:32] <TJ-> UbuntuUser1234: No. The device decides to charge, the power on the port is a requirement of the USB standard
[08:32] <TJ-> vincenzoml: Before you reboot...
[08:32]  * vincenzoml is listening
[08:33] <Merrrrs> hey I have a question
[08:33] <TJ-> vincenzoml: Just "cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg" and confirm that there are lines referring to including "custom.cfg" appearing at the end of the file
[08:33] <vincenzoml> TJ-: thanks, they're there, shall I reboot?
[08:33] <TJ-> vincenzoml: If you've set root correctly, sure :)
[08:34] <UbuntuUser1234> TJ-: This other device is a Nexus 7 tablet with Ubuntu Touch. Have you any idea can I somehow command it to stop charging?
[08:34] <Merrrrs> I searched the ubuntu wiki, but I did not see instructions on how to make a backup image of my HDD using 'dd'
[08:34] <Merrrrs> I have a 60gb SSD
[08:34] <Merrrrs> Anyone know how?
[08:36] <ikonia> Merrrrs: what's the plan, what do you need the backup for and how to you intend to use it ?
[08:36] <Thrasymachus> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=backup+hard+drive+dd
[08:36] <Merrrrs> ikonia, I have an external HDD (1TB). I want to make a backup of my HDD.
[08:37] <ikonia> Thrasymachus: that's not helpful
[08:37] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DriveImaging#Backup_with_dd
[08:37] <Merrrrs> I figured it should be easy, seeing as I only have a 60gb SSD
[08:37] <Merrrrs> **backup of my SSD
[08:37] <ikonia> Merrrrs: first thing to consider is how you plan to use this backup once you have it
[08:37] <Thrasymachus> the three top links all explain it!!
[08:37] <ikonia> is dd the right option for you
[08:37] <Merrrrs> ikonia, I want to keep it on my external HDD just in case. I want to use this project also, as a learning tool. So I can make weekly backups of my SSD
[08:37] <ikonia> Thrasymachus: stop it - try to actuall help the users end goal rather than just google links that you've not actually verfieid fit his need
[08:38] <ikonia> Merrrrs: ok, but if your hard disk fails, how do you plan to use the backup ?
[08:38] <ikonia> Merrrrs: is it simpley for a whole system recovery, or for file recovery too
[08:38] <Merrrrs> ikonia, I have an SSD.
[08:38] <Merrrrs> ikonia, And system recovery
[08:38] <ikonia> Merrrrs: yes you've said that, repeating it doesn't really answer the questions
[08:38] <ikonia> Merrrrs: what will you do if your hard disk fails ?
[08:39] <cristian_c> Hi
[08:39] <Merrrrs> ikonia, What do you mean?
[08:39] <cristian_c> How can I add a discussion group type account in Sylpheed?
[08:39] <Merrrrs> my SSD?
[08:39] <Merrrrs> or my External HDD?
[08:39] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[08:39] <ikonia> Merrrrs: yes, if your SSD fails how will you use the recovery image to get your system back ?
[08:39] <Merrrrs> ikonia, I don't know. Nor do I really care.
[08:39] <Merrrrs> Probably buy a new SSD?
[08:40] <Merrrrs> Sorry if that sounded condescending/sarcastic
[08:40] <ikonia> Merrrrs: you should care as your planned recovery position will determain if a dd backup is of any use to you or not
[08:40] <TJ-> UbuntuUser1234: No. You'd have to ask Samsung
[08:40] <Merrrrs> ikonia, I figured if I borked something on my system, I could just restore to the image I made, using 'dd'
[08:41] <TJ-> UbuntuUser1234: No. You'd have to ask s/Samsung/Google/
[08:41] <Merrrrs> I like to tinker
[08:41] <ikonia> Merrrrs: ok, so the concept you want is fine, but you need to be aware of things
[08:41] <Merrrrs> ikonia, ok. I have an encrypted /home
[08:41] <Merrrrs> does that make a difference?
[08:41] <ikonia> Merrrrs: such as if you swap the disk to a different disk dd is a block by block image of your disk, including things like partition table and private region
[08:41] <Merrrrs> ikonia, perfect. That's what im looking for.
[08:42] <Merrrrs> I will also keep config files & stuff like that backed up weekly. I use tar for that
[08:42] <Merrrrs> I know this is a bit overkill, but I enjoy making backups
[08:42] <ikonia> so if your disk you swap your ssd out with is slightly different, eg: different make/model/size you will have problems as the image won't go back "block by block" the same
[08:43] <ikonia> Merrrrs: also you shouldn't be taking dd images while the system is in use, you should be booting from a remote media, such as a livecd to take an image of the disk while the operating system on that disk is not running
[08:43] <Merrrrs> ikonia, Understandable. I did not know that. If that happens, I'll find another solution
[08:43] <Merrrrs> ikonia, Thanks for that also
[08:43] <ikonia> Merrrrs: hence why I'm asking you to think at least a little bit about what you want to achieve
[08:43] <Merrrrs> ikonia, Make a backup of my SSD. It's only 60gb
[08:44] <Merrrrs> ikonia, Nothing else, right now. My SSD is doing fine. If it fails 6 months down the line.. So be it.
[08:44] <ikonia> you've said that about 3 times, I understand that, but I'm trying to help you see that there is more thought than "I want a backup"
[08:44] <ikonia> fine then, boot from a remote media, dd the device file to an output file on your second disk
[08:44] <ikonia> prepare for problems with your encyrpted home
[08:44] <ikonia> job done
[08:44] <Merrrrs> ikonia, Thats what I need help with. Thats why Im asking for help
[08:44] <Merrrrs> I have an encrypted home.
[08:44] <ikonia> Merrrrs: what's not clear ?
[08:45] <ikonia> Merrrrs: what part of the process do you need help with ?
[08:45] <Merrrrs> ikonia, A bit of help with the syntax... & What I should do about my encrypted /home
[08:45] <ikonia> Merrrrs: what do you think the syntax is ?
[08:46] <ikonia> Merrrrs: you said you like to tinker so you must have checked the dd syntax before asking
[08:46] <TJ-> Merrrrs: You could consider using LVM snapshots, which would allow you to do live backups of the snapshots see e.g. http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/snapshots_backup.html
[08:46] <Merrrrs> ikonia, Something along the lines of dd if=/dev
[08:46] <Merrrrs> or something like that
[08:46] <ikonia> Merrrrs: bit more than that
[08:46] <Merrrrs> idk
[08:46] <ikonia> Merrrrs: so what's the command you've got now
[08:46] <ikonia> Merrrrs: ok, so check the syntax, come up with an attempt and we can move forward from there
[08:46] <BigBangTheoryX> Hi guys. How can I find out which Desktop/Windowmanager is installed?
[08:47] <MrQuist> BigBangTheoryX, look at monitor. See mouse? Yes. No mouse? No.
[08:47] <Merrrrs> ikonia, I couldn't find any documentation on the syntax of 'dd' itself.
[08:47] <Merrrrs> Maybe you could post an example on pastebin?
[08:47] <ikonia> Merrrrs: man dd
[08:47] <ikonia> Merrrrs: maybe read man dd and get an idea
[08:47] <MrQuist> BigBangTheoryX, j/k - you could use aptitude to check on installed packages
[08:47] <ikonia> Merrrrs: rather than ask to be spoonfed
[08:47] <Merrrrs> ikonia, Debian man pages are shit.
[08:47] <Merrrrs> I dont like being spoonfed
[08:47] <ikonia> Merrrrs: no they are not,
[08:47] <vincenzoml> TJ-: a big thanks! I am now online from ubuntustudio
[08:47] <ikonia> Merrrrs: and there is no need to swear
[08:47] <TJ-> vincenzoml: Great to hear :)
[08:47] <ikonia> Merrrrs: and if you don't like to be spoonfed read the basics of the command
[08:48] <ikonia> Merrrrs: there are also man pages online
[08:48] <Merrrrs> ikonia, Ok dude. Whatever. Could you maybe just post an example on pastebin? Ill leave you alone after that
[08:48] <ikonia> Merrrrs: no, you said you like to tinker, so do some research, get a basic idea and if you have problems we'll correct them
[08:48] <BigBangTheoryX> What do I have to install besides Gnome3 to work Gnome3 under Ubuntu 13.10 (saucy)?
[08:48] <Thrasymachus> do some research using google ;-)
[08:49] <Merrrrs> ikonia, I run OpenBSD. This laptop is for uni.  That and "dd --help" of course.
[08:50] <OerHeks> BigBangTheoryX, just the ubuntu-gnome-desktop package AFAIK
[08:50] <gordonjcp> TJ-: gone
[08:50] <TJ-> gordonjcp: indeed
[08:50] <gordonjcp> TJ-: also "doesn't want spoon fed", wants an example posted on pastebin
[08:50] <gordonjcp> cognitive dissonance much?
[08:51] <Thrasymachus> I tried to avoid all this
[08:51] <TJ-> Sounds like someone that expects someone else to do their work for them
[08:52] <ikonia> Thrasymachus: it would appear so
[08:53] <Thrasymachus> lmgtfy
[08:53] <ikonia> Thrasymachus: it's not cool to approach it like that though
[08:53] <ikonia> Thrasymachus: try to get a bit of context and actuall post valid trusted links
[08:53] <ikonia> not lmgtfy links (please)
[08:54] <BigBangTheoryX> How can I install Gnome3 from Ubuntu-CD?
[08:54] <BigBangTheoryX> Not from the Internet
[08:54] <ikonia> I don't think it's on the ubuntu cd
[08:54] <Thrasymachus> I know, you are right, high road and all that.  I am not as generous and patient, but I admire your efforts to help, and the community needs that
[08:55] <Thrasymachus> I wasn't trying to help, I was trying to say he should figure it out for himself
[08:55] <BigBangTheoryX> ikonia: I've to type "apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop" right?
[08:55] <ikonia> BigBangTheoryX: did you just read what I said ?
[08:55] <ikonia> Thrasymachus: ok, maybe try to not do that in future please.
[08:55] <OerHeks> BigBangTheoryX, there is a ubuntu gnome desktop iso > http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/13.10/release/
[08:56] <ikonia> OerHeks: is that actually production ready ?
[08:56] <gordonjcp> ikonia: I don't understand the antipathy towards "lmgtfy" responses, to be honest
[08:56] <OerHeks> ikonia, as of 13.04
[08:56] <gordonjcp> ikonia: about 90% of the questions in here can be answered by the first hit on Google
[08:57] <Thrasymachus> sort of my point
[08:57] <OerHeks> gordonjcp, not all users have access to google.
[08:57] <Thrasymachus> though again I admire ikonia's generosity
[08:57] <ikonia> gordonjcp: also it's not really thought out responses though it's key words, you don't know if those links are good or answer the real question, just firing words into google and posting them blindly to people - not cool
[08:58] <ikonia> gordonjcp: in this case though a basic grasp of dd could have been found from the fist hit - no doubt
[08:58] <Thrasymachus> no, they should type it into google and judge the results themselves--that's the point of lmgtfy
[08:58] <ikonia> Thrasymachus: they are asking for help because they "can't" judge it
[08:59] <ikonia> but in this case it was just lazy - I agree
[08:59] <gordonjcp> ikonia: or as you suggested reading the man page
[08:59] <gordonjcp> OerHeks: how would they have access to IRC but not Google?
[08:59] <ikonia> exactly
[08:59] <Thrasymachus> man page --even better of course
[08:59] <Thrasymachus> anyway, sorry for the impishness ikonia
[08:59] <gordonjcp> OerHeks: I mean, I quite often have IRC but not web, but that's because I do insane stuff like connect to a terminal server over a 1200bps radio modem from 50 miles out
[09:00] <ikonia> Thrasymachus: not a problem.
[09:01] <EmirX> exit
[09:01] <OerHeks> gordonjcp, i have no examples about country/organisation/school networks that do not connect ( without tricks) but there are some
[09:03] <gordonjcp> OerHeks: I'd be really surprised to see something that blocked google but not IRC
[09:04] <jam3sm> hmm i installed 12.04.3 but when i do a update of software then install proprietry drivers for nvidia and then srestart i get stuck at the black screen with a cursor like its looking for a os that it cant find did i do something wrong?
[09:05] <jam3sm> ps, my hardware - i7-2600, nvidia gtx 580, 1tb hdd - windows 8 on 360gb part rest is for linux, 12gb ram gskill, xonar dg sound card,
[09:05] <kibibyte> i
[09:05] <kibibyte> hi
[09:05] <kibibyte> can someone help me: i have a diff file of 2 directories, now i want to make target directory looks the same as orginal based on this diff
[09:05] <kibibyte> is it possible?
[09:05] <FloodBot1> kibibyte: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:06] <jam3sm> how was that flooding?!?
[09:07] <kibibyte> yeah
[09:07] <yoyo09kh3> hi, i'm running ubuntu 12.04, apache + php.  I have some CSV files that I want php to have access to but I don't want browseable / downloadable by visitors.  I'm gonna create a new folder in which to store the CSVs but am unsure re permissions to set on the folder??
[09:07] <kibibyte> buggy bot
[09:07] <TJ-> jam3sm: How long does the black screen remain? how long do you wait? sometimes there's a temporary black screen when the splash-screen is supposed to be there, but eventually the log-in screen appears
[09:08] <BigBangTheoryX> What's the difference between "apt-get upgrade" and "apt-get dist-upgrade"?
[09:08] <TJ-> BigBangTheoryX: "dist-upgrade" will install "new" replacement packages
[09:08] <riyan__> plis help me setting pcsx2
[09:09] <BigBangTheoryX> TJ-: Can you explain the difference in more detail, please (for a beginner)
[09:09] <TJ-> BigBangTheoryX: e.g. if libX2 has had a version upgrade to libX2 which would break the previous interfaces
[09:09] <jam3sm> do i need to re-install ubuntu since the update fails to find a os on reboot
[09:09] <KI7MT>   BigBangTheoryX Here's a pretty good explination: http://askubuntu.com/questions/194651/why-use-apt-get-upgrade-instead-of-apt-get-dist-upgrade
[09:10] <TJ-> BigBangTheoryX: "upgrade" will only do upgrade packages that don't introduce breakages in the software interfaces between other packages
[09:10] <kazak1377> hey everybody. I have some problem with qtcreator, downloaded from official site. Whe, i try to compile my project, i getting en those: http://snag.gy/n6ZHZ.jpg what should i install to fix that?
[09:11] <TJ-> jam3sm: That sounds rather like it could be a simple issue of the PC's BIOS boot-order setting needing tweaking
[09:11] <KI7MT> BigBangTheoryX, Its from: man apt-get .. there's allot more info in there too.
[09:11] <BigBangTheoryX> TJ-: So If "apt-get dist-upgrade" breaks the interaction between different software-components, then why should this command be used?
[09:11] <TJ-> BigBangTheoryX: For example, when a new kernel version is released
[09:12] <jam3sm> TJ- it boots to the grub fine but as soon as i tell it to go to ubuntu it sits on the black screen with cursor up top corner as if it cant find the os
[09:12] <BigBangTheoryX> TJ-: Yeah. What happens if a new kernel version is released?
[09:12] <TJ-> BigBangTheoryX: Or say, if an application changes the library version it depends upon, the application might be "held back" by 'apt' until a dist-upgrade installs the newly required library
[09:13] <eject_ck> I have .deb package depends on linux-headers package (which is missing in my distro and called linux-headers-3.4-amd64 : uname -a Linux debian 3.12-1-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.12.8-1 (2014-01-19) x86_64 GNU/Linux). I've installed it with dpkg -i --ignore-depends=linux-headers /home/src/desktopvideo-9.8-amd64.deb  and it works well, but when I use aptitude or apt-get it always require to remove it because of unsatisfied dependencies. How can I tell apt to keep
[09:14] <ikonia> eject_ck: wht distro is it ?
[09:14] <jam3sm> hmm might need to try something else then maybe install 12.04.3 then update restart then change drivers to proprietry nvidia ones
[09:14] <jam3sm> be back in a few hours i hope
[09:14] <BigBangTheoryX> TJ-: Ok now I get it.
[09:14] <eject_ck> Debian 7
[09:14] <TJ-> jam3sm: OK ... that sounds like the issue I mentioned... Try this: when in the grub menu highlight the Ubuntu entry and press 'e' to edit it... move the cursor down to the line begining "linux ..." and then move the cursor to the end of that line where you see "quiet splash" ... ". remove those two options and add in "debug nomodeset". Then press F10 (or Ctr+X) to start Ubuntu with those kernel command-line options.
[09:14] <eject_ck> sid :)
[09:14] <eject_ck> ikonia: sid
[09:15] <ikonia> eject_ck: ok, so #debian is the channel you need
[09:15] <TJ-> jam3sm: The "debug" will cause lots of useful kernel start-up messages to be shown, and the "nomodeset" should ensure that an illegal video mode set isn't done... and you should eventually get the log-in screen, or some clues as to why it is getting 'stuck'
[09:15] <eject_ck> ubuntu uses same pakage manager, so solution should be the same
[09:17] <Myrtti> eject_ck: yes, but Ubuntu is not Debian
[09:23] <Muneeb> #facebook
[09:27] <daniele_> ciao
[09:35] <Turnhhh> Hi all
[09:50] <eject_ck> Myrtti: yes, sure
[09:51] <eject_ck> Myrtti: but if both are using same package manager and my question is related to it, there are no even little difference between both distribs.
[09:51] <eject_ck> however, thank you all
[09:52] <thoonai> hey
[09:52] <yoyo09kh3> can anyone tell me what permissions I need on a folder to allow php access to files but not browsers?  I'm runnung ubuntu 12.04 + php + apache....
[09:53] <thoonai> im having trouble with thunderbird: the systems locals are en_US (which ist correct) and the Thunderbird settings should be de_DE or at least not am/pm but 24h
[09:54] <thoonai> so I need to change the settings for thunderbird only and not changing the whole system settings
[09:54] <Luyin> thoonai: have you tried installing the german language pack for thunderbird?
[09:55] <OerHeks> eject_ck, your issue is unsatisfied dependencies due a missing header package, not ubuntu related as "our" kernel has a different name/annotation
[09:55] <miki> ciao a tutti
[09:56] <thoonai> Luyin: thanks, thats an idea
[09:58] <thoonai> Luyin: https://addons.mozilla.org/de/thunderbird/language-tools/ as I am not too stupid, but Mozilla doesnt offer a language pack :/
[09:58] <thoonai> pr am I totally wrong o.O
[09:58] <Luyin> thoonai: which thunderbird version are you using?
[10:00] <thoonai> Luyin: 24.2.0
[10:01] <Luyin> thoonai: I got the same version with the german language pack, so there should one be in existance ;) gotta go now, try to look for it with google. another idea doesn't occur to me atm, but gonna think about it and tell you when I'm back
[10:01] <thoonai> Luyin: great, thanks
[10:01] <mips> How do I install gnome desktop on ubuntu 14.04, apparently gnome is in the repos
[10:02] <mips> hi
[10:02] <TJ-> thoonai: do you have installed the package "firefox-locale-de" ?
[10:04] <thoonai> TJ-: no. Its about Thunderbird. I need to change the settings for this only program to be changed
[10:04] <thom_r> Unable to open MTP device. I am sick of getting that error. How do I fix it?
[10:04] <glitsj16> thoonai: you should have it in your regular ubuntu repos, sudo apt-get install thunderbird-locale-de  .. did you try that yet?
[10:05] <thoonai> glitsj16: I'll give it a try
[10:05] <TJ-> thoonai: Then "thunderbird-locale-de" ?
[10:07] <thoonai> TJ-: done, now Im searching for the settings
[10:10] <TJ-> thoonai: Hang on, if it's running in the system locale en_US then that is expected; You'd need to change the locale for the application before it is launched to get European formats
[10:11] <TJ-> thoonai: I've confirmed that here. I'm in the UK but starting it with "LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8" thunderbird" shows US AM/PM times
[10:12] <TJ-> thoonai: So you need to ensure your system has the "de_DE.UTF-8" language pack built, and then change the environment for the thunderbird launcher
[10:16] <thoonai> TJ-: how do I change the env var for thunderbird only?
[10:17] <TJ-> thoonai: You'd need to have a wrapper script that launches it
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> thom_r: when you last detatched the device from a USB port, did you use the safe removal feature in your OS before you physically unplug it?
[10:18] <thom_r> ActionParsnip, it was plugged in the whole time.
[10:18] <thom_r> I didn't unplug it
[10:19] <TJ-> thoonai: "file $(which thunderbird)" reveals that 'thunderbird' is already a symlink to a shell script, so you might be able to do something in that file. I don't see signs that it has the functionality currently
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> thom_r: so you have _never_ unplugged it from a PC?
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> thom_r: as in ever
[10:20] <thom_r> it's my roommates, not mine
[10:20] <thom_r> I have no idea what he's done with it
[10:22] <thoonai> TJ-: ok it works quite nice (if I ignore the Gtk-Warning). Do you have an idea, how I get it integrated in the system?
[10:25] <TJ-> thoonai: You could add "export LC_TIME="de_DE.UTF-8"  to "~/.profile", which would affect all sh/dash/bash shell scripts, I think
[10:27] <thoonai> TJ-: oops. i changed all LANG to de_DE.UTF8
[10:29] <thoonai> TJ-: I'd prefer a redirect in bash.rc so that if you call 'thunderbird' in your terminal, you don't call Thunderbird, but the changed script
[10:32] <thoonai> TJ-: export LC_TIME="de_DE.UTF8" doesn't accect thunderbird
[10:32] <EagleWizard420> steve wozniak said he program better after a few beers
[10:32] <EagleWizard420> what doyou guys think
[10:32] <Myrtti> EagleWizard420: that's not really a Ubuntu support issue, now is it?
[10:32] <EagleWizard420> of course not
[10:33] <thoonai> EagleWizard420: thats an topic for "#ubuntu-offtopic" or "#drug_abuse"
[10:33] <EagleWizard420> that's insulting
[10:33] <EagleWizard420> but since I've never been to this channel and don't understand it, I'll take it as advice
[10:33] <TJ-> thoonai: that's because you're giving an incorrect language specification
[10:33] <thoonai> TJ-: how so?
[10:34] <TJ-> thoonai: look at my suggestion and compare it to what you've typed
[10:36] <thoonai> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6807689/
[10:37] <TJ-> thoonai: is the de_DE language pack installed and built?
[10:38] <RaptorJesus> So lets all talk about what we use Ubuntu for. I'll start first: porn.
[10:39] <thoonai> TJ-: the thunderbird is
[10:41] <Myrtti> RaptorJesus: how about no?
[10:41] <thoonai> TJ-: stop. I don't understand this: if I export LANG to de_DE.UTF8 it works, with LC_TIME it doesnt and I didnt installed the language pack (though surely it is on the universitys system)
[10:41] <thoonai> RaptorJesus: #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:44] <thoonai> TJ-: so it works with LANG, but I'm getting this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6807704/
[11:00] <gargsms> I am using 12.04LTS and today I don't know why Ubuntu is asking me for password again and again, but I cannot see the desktop screen.
[11:07] <Balzy> Hello! I get 1.5 GB - 2 GB ram usage from firefox with 25-30 tabs open, is it okay? Is it me that I am too demanding or is it a plugin/whatelse problem?
[11:09] <Guest76542> czesc
[11:10] <nevyn> Balzy: sounds about right.
[11:12] <Balzy> nevyn thanks, any idea to keep such number of tabs open and reducing ram usage? I've already set the option to not load pages until I click on a tab
[11:13] <nevyn> how much ram do you have?
[11:13] <nevyn> Balzy: why do you care?
[11:13] <jam3sm> TJ- : just to let you know what you suggested didnt help it turns out what was breaking my xorg was the nvidia driver ending with 19
[11:14] <jam3sm> i have to re-install the entire system and not update to the recomended nvidia driver
[11:14] <lesshaste> hi... I reported https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/scratch/+bug/1270194 but am a little worried there may be no ubuntu maintainer
[11:15] <jam3sm> anyways ive given up on linux for time bieng since my games not supported properly still
[11:16] <Pessimist> jam3sm, you mean game developers don't support linux? Stop being ignorant
[11:17] <Balzy> nevyn I've got 4GB
[11:17] <Pessimist> Balzy, try about:memory... some addons may have memory leaks
[11:17] <Balzy> but it seems to slow down the entire system
[11:17] <mips> how do I edit grub in 14.04 need to change the defualt OS
[11:18] <Balzy> not sure it's firefox the responsible but it usually happen when it uses more than 2GB (running latest kubuntu release)
[11:18] <gargsms> I am using 12.04LTS and today I don't know why Ubuntu is asking me for password again and again, but I cannot see the desktop screen.
[11:18] <jam3sm> Pessimist im not bieng ignorant and i didnt say that i said my games not supported properly , i know i can play it under wine but still not great p[erformance and in games i meant to say the only game i play is eve online they dont have native support yet
[11:18] <Balzy> thx Pessimist
[11:19] <Pessimist> Balzy, try disabling all addons then enable them one by one. Also try googling "<addon name> memory leak", maybe it's a known problem
[11:19] <tebuct> hai..
[11:20] <Balzy> Pessimist can I post here first 5 lines of the tree? Most memory's used by windows-object
[11:20] <nadir92> Hey !
[11:20] <Pessimist> gargsms, what do you mean you cannot see the desktop screen? Also you shouldn't put your password everywhere where it asks you
[11:20] <Balzy> I don't know exactly what it is, I think something related to rendering and showing pages
[11:21] <gargsms> Pessimist, I am only putting my password on the login screen, like ever.
[11:21] <anew> how can allow user will to write files to /var/www
[11:21] <anew> ?
[11:21] <Balzy> Pessimist addons it's just 24 MB, 1% of total, probably no leaks
[11:21] <anew> sudo chown will /var/www
[11:21] <anew>   itried this
[11:21] <anew> didnt work
[11:22] <gargsms> I SSHed into it once today, and now I cannot use GUI. I can log using tty though.
[11:22] <Pessimist> Balzy, yes. Adobe flash is a huge resource hog too. Do you use it? Try installing flashblock but really browsers nowadays eat a lot of ram
[11:23] <nadir92> Hello all!
[11:23] <nadir92> Does dropbox work on your 12.04 ?
[11:23] <Balzy> yep, I have 3/4 youtube video opened, I should start keeping a playlist instead :P
[11:23] <Pessimist> gargsms, what's the output of /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[11:23] <Balzy> Pessimist :
[11:23] <Balzy> 1,381.33 MB (100.0%) -- explicit
[11:23] <Balzy> ├────598.38 MB (43.32%) ++ window-objects
[11:23] <Balzy> ├────237.96 MB (17.23%) ++ heap-overhead
[11:23] <Balzy> ├────215.15 MB (15.58%) ++ js-non-window
[11:23] <FloodBot1> Balzy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:23] <Balzy> ├────196.56 MB (14.23%) ── heap-unclassified
[11:24] <Pessimist> gargsms, cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[11:24] <Balzy> gh
[11:25] <Pessimist> Balzy, a ton of heavy websites heh. You can also try installing noscript to disable unnecessary javascript
[11:25] <Luyin> thoonai: problem solved?
[11:25] <linu1> hi i have installed windows on virtual box, i have files to copy from my ubuntu pc to windows,but the paste button shows disabled, how can i used that?
[11:26] <Rory> linu1: Have you installed the Virtualbox Guest Additions, and enabled file and folder drag&drop ?
[11:27] <Balzy> Pessimist yep, I'm already using adblock plus, I usally keep tabs open to keep visible stuff I need to read or I find interesting, I should probably use Bookmarks or read them immediately also
[11:27] <gargsms> Pessimist, http://sprunge.us/cOjI
[11:27] <anew> anyone?
[11:27] <anew> change permissions for /var/www user will?
[11:28] <Kartagis> hi
[11:28] <Kartagis> how do I know whether a patch is supposed to be applied with p0 or p1?
[11:29] <linu1> Rory,i installed virtual box using sudo apt-get install virtualbox,but i dont know exactly that whether i enabled or not,how can i check
[11:29] <thoonai> Luyin: partially yes, thanks
[11:29] <Rory> linu1: On your Windows guest machine, go to Devices -> Insert Guest Additions Cd Image
[11:30] <gargsms> anew, $ sudo chown -R <your username> /var/www
[11:30] <Luyin> thoonai: what about the other part?
[11:30] <Luyin> thoonai: what else do you need?
[11:30] <BigBangTheoryX> Hi guys. I've installed Gnome 3.8 on Ubuntu 13.10, but I can't create folders etc. on the desktop. How can I do that?
[11:31] <thoonai> Luyin: may I ask you that later? 15 minutes or so?
[11:31] <Rory> BigBangTheoryX: run this command: gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background show-desktop-icons true
[11:31] <Rory> BigBangTheoryX: You may also have to log out and in after that
[11:32] <Luyin> thoonai: ask me in a query, I will be gone again soon. perhaps I can help you later
[11:32] <gargsms> anew, $ sudo chown -R <your username> /var/www
[11:32] <anew> thanks i forgot the -R gargsms
[11:32] <thoonai> Luyin: cool thanks
[11:34] <Daghdha> how much effort/skill/time you think is required for a semi-noob to set up ubuntu as an email server? (I don't haveubuntu server, i have ubuntu desktop)
[11:34] <BigBangTheoryX> Another problem is: I had installed "gnome-session-fallback". After that I get the error message That an error occured with ExecutablePath "/usr/lib/gnome-settings-daemon/gnome-settings-daemon. How can I fix that?
[11:38] <Daghdha> I see a nice https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer page, sadly it is from 2009 and my experience is that Ubuntu changes a lot so it may no longer be correct info
[11:40] <Pessimist> gargsms, how much free space you have? df -h | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[11:43] <gargsms> Pessimist, 76Gig
[11:44] <Ornitorrinco> why /etc/crontab don't runs in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS?
[11:45] <geirha> Ornitorrinco: What makes you think it doesn't?
[11:45] <Ornitorrinco> because I added lines in /etc/crontab but my ubuntu is ignoring it
[11:46] <geirha> Ornitorrinco: More likely you have an error in one of those lines, like a typo, so it's failing instead of giving the result you expect
[11:47] <Ornitorrinco> i added: * *  * * *  user /usr/bin/gedit
[11:47] <Ornitorrinco> it would run a gedit every minut
[11:47] <geirha> Ornitorrinco: Right, that won't work
[11:47] <Ornitorrinco> why not, its all okey
[11:48] <geirha> Ornitorrinco: Multiple users may be logged in on an Ubuntu system at the same time, and even a single user may be logged in graphically multiple times. gedit doesn't know what X server to run in
[11:49] <Kartagis> how do I know whether a patch is supposed to be applied with p0 or p1?
[11:49] <Ornitorrinco> and what i need to add on my line? do u know?
[11:49] <geirha> Ornitorrinco: It'll work when you run it from a gnome-terminal, because in your gnome-terminal you have an DISPLAY environment variable that tells the commands you run what X server your using
[11:49] <CatKiller> Kartagis: p0 or p1...2.3 etc simply define how many levels of subdirectories (slashes) to remove in the path before applying
[11:50] <CatKiller> Try p0 and if it doesn't work try another one
[11:50] <Ornitorrinco> but if i run '/usr/bin/gedit' in a terminal it execute a grafic gparted
[11:50] <CatKiller> it's just easier
[11:50] <geirha> Ornitorrinco: If there's only one user logged in graphically, then the value for DISPLAY is likely ":0", so * * * * * user DISPLAY=:0 gedit   may work, but it's not a good idea
[11:51] <geirha> Ornitorrinco: because gnome-terminal has a DISPLAY variable, while cron does not.
[11:51] <Kartagis> CatKiller: 0 and 1 didn't work. it asked me "File to patch: "
[11:51] <CatKiller> inspect the patch file using a text editor and figure out if it looks right
[11:51] <Ornitorrinco> then what i would to do to execute gedit every minut?
[11:52] <Ornitorrinco> with a correct way
[11:52] <geirha> Ornitorrinco: A better approach would be to create a startup application that does whatever you want
[11:52] <CatKiller> Kartagis: You can look at resources on the web that explain patching better: https://drupal.org/patch/apply
[11:54] <geirha> Ornitorrinco: e.g. a script doing   while sleep 60; do gedit & done   would spawn a new gedit every minute
[11:55] <Ornitorrinco> okey thats a good idea
[11:58] <anew> root@plato:~# chown -R will:will .ssh
[11:58] <anew> chown: cannot access â.sshâ: No such file or directory
[11:58] <anew> i get this error
[11:58] <anew> but i'm looking right at .sssh
[11:58] <anew> .ssh
[11:58] <FloodBot1> anew: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:59] <Fool1sh> Hi! I'm trying to periodically run an UI test on a VM having Ubuntu Server 12.04 + Gnome installed. I've created a cronjob using the crontab tool so it executes the command to run that UI test every minute. Problem: I get no feedback that the cronjob has been executed. Once the UI test is executed it should log different messages into a file, but that file remains empty. Any idea please?
[11:59] <ikonia> character screw up
[11:59] <geirha> anew: what terminal emulator are you using? putty?
[11:59] <anew> yes
[12:00] <ikonia> Fool1sh: depends how you've set the cronjob up - what the script actually does
[12:00] <geirha> anew: Make sure it's set to use utf-8 character encoding
[12:00] <geirha> anew: Window -> Translation -> UTF-8 iirc
[12:01] <Fool1sh> ikonia, as root I used crontab -e and appended that line to the file: /root/runIDE -r /root/test.sikuli
[12:01] <ikonia> Fool1sh: you shouldn't be root, root is looked on ubuntu
[12:01] <anew> thx
[12:01] <ikonia> "locked" sorry
[12:01] <Fool1sh> alright, I'm trying with another user then
[12:04] <Fool1sh> ikonia, ok I've tried running the script as another user and it complains: Can't connect to X11 window server using ':1.0' as the value of the DISPLAY variable.
[12:04] <Ornitorrinco> geirha: with the DISPLAY=:0 way is running well
[12:05] <BigBangTheoryX> How can I add shortcuts to Ubuntu's top-bar?
[12:05] <geirha> Ornitorrinco: Note that that is not a solution, it's a hack that will work "most of the time"
[12:06] <Ornitorrinco> then don't exist a true good form to do this with a crom utility right?
[12:06] <Fool1sh> ikonia, I'm connected with a VNC client as root, maybe that's the problem
[12:06] <Ornitorrinco> geirha*
[12:07] <jam3sm> hmm i wonder if its because of the i8xx-i9xx intel drivers for xorg causing the problem with the nvidia drivers causing xorg to fail to load -causing me to re-install all the time
[12:07] <Ornitorrinco> geirha: don't exist a good method to run X applications with the crontab really?
[12:08] <geirha> Ornitorrinco: Correct. Cron is not designed to interact with X. Better to use the utilities X and your desktop environment provides
[12:08] <Ornitorrinco> Okey thank you very much geirha you are the best
[12:09] <Fool1sh> geirha, what kind of utilities for Gnome for example?
[12:10] <geirha> Fool1sh: Well, there is the Startup Applications, which is a front-end for XDG autostart
[12:12] <geirha> There's also a gnome scheduled task thingy, which actually uses crontab with a python wrapper that tries to figure out what X server it should run on and sets the environment appropriately. I still consider that a hack though.
[12:13] <BigBangTheoryX> Has anybody an idea?
[12:15] <trijntje> BigBangTheoryX: you can
[12:15] <trijntje> BigBangTheoryX: you can't, sorry
[12:15] <Fool1sh> geirha, interesting that might what I'm looking for as I'm trying to run Sikuli (a graphical tool requiring a graphical env) from the command line on the X server... I thought about writing a wrapper so it would find the X server on which to run but I was missing clues :)
[12:15] <BigBangTheoryX> trijntje: Why?
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> !info classicmenu-indicator | BigBangTheoryX
[12:18] <ikonia> Fool1sh: sounds like your X11 and root sessions are a problem
[12:21] <geirha> Fool1sh: Whatever you need to run automatically in X, just do it via autostart
[12:22] <Fool1sh> Yes, I'm going to investigate further. Brb
[12:24] <pirulinux> buen dia disculpen que joda tan temprano pero boy ha nesecitar algo de ayuda veran en estos momentos estoy utilisando una red wifi la cual
[12:24] <pirulinux> va ha ser eliminada de manera definitiva el dia de mañana
[12:24] <BigBangTheoryX> I've installed "classicmenu-indicator" but I cant create icons on the top-bar
[12:24] <pirulinux> dispongo de una cableada pero tiene un bloqueo por proxy
[12:24] <pirulinux>  y el pidgin no funciona desde hay
[12:24] <pirulinux> existe alguna manera de evadir el bloqueo
[12:25] <pirulinux> con un proxy local o algo
[12:25] <pirulinux>  me urge de lo contrario pirulinux podria desapareser para siempre
[12:25] <pirulinux> help
[12:25] <DJones> !es | pirulinux
[12:28] <pirulinux> si si Djones estoy desesperado es todo estoy seguro que algunos por aqui entienden el español
[12:28] <DJones> pirulinux: For support in Spanish, please join #ubuntu-es This channel is English language only
[12:32] <Ronie> hello
[12:36] <terranb0y> hay
[12:36] <terranb0y> i had a wuestion
[12:36] <terranb0y> question*
[12:36] <terranb0y> is smoebody here
[12:36] <terranb0y> by by
[12:38] <xocat> hi
[12:38] <Fool1sh> geirha, not sure if you have time to help but I've just logged off the VNC session I was previously in (as root) and restarted the vnc server under a non-root user. But when I connected to it using my usual VNC client, there is not the full Gnome interface anymore, only a gnome-terminal opened up. How come?
[12:38] <jam3sm>  do i need to install the i8xx/i9xx intel display drivers update?
[12:39] <somsip> !ask | terranb0y
[12:45] <lazyfingers> ubuntu 13.10 lost the ability to remap keys? i want to map caps to ctrl, is it possible now or what?
[12:46] <jam3sm> how to install from terminal something sudo apt- somthing or rather?
[12:46] <BlueShark> jam3sm, What are you trying to install?
[12:46] <Cigrits> sudo apt-get install <packagename>
[12:47] <geirha> Fool1sh: I don't know. Sounds like you didn't tell the vnc server what desktop environment you wanted..?
[12:47] <Cigrits> to find packages     apt-cache search <search term>
[12:48] <geirha> Fool1sh: I only have experience with the builtin vnc server, not any of the stand alone, so I can't help on that part.
[12:52] <Fuzzz3r> Why i have "cannot send to channel: #ubuntu" message?
[12:52] <Fuzzz3r> Oh.. sry, now ok
[12:52] <Walex> Fuzzz3r: some channels are for registered nicknames only, but not necessarily this one
[12:53] <Walex> lazyfingers: probably can still remap using X11-level utilities related to XKB
[12:53] <lazyfingers> Walex, can't
[12:53] <lazyfingers> Walex, it resets back after a few seconds
[12:54] <Walex> lazyfingers: that means that there is some Unity/GNOME keyboard config applet that resets it.
[12:55] <Fuzzz3r> What i need use for up gate server on ubuntu?
[12:55] <Walex> lazyfingers: I actually use KDE, so I don't know which one Unity/GNOME3 would use.
[12:55] <lazyfingers> Walex, this is obvious.. but what the flying asd does it work this way now?!
[12:55] <Walex> lazyfingers: Desktop Environment developers like to change stuff :-)
[12:56] <lazyfingers> Walex, I it works as usual in kde but I don't like kde ;)
[12:56] <Walex> Fuzzz3r: what does that mean?
[12:56] <lazyfingers> Walex, yeah, i guess... "great decisions" for the greater? good?
[12:56] <Walex> lazyfingers: you don't like KDE? Heretic! :-)
[12:56] <Rar9> hi need some quick info for my Ubuntu 12.04 LTS  Server... It´s not autostarting Tomcat7 anymore... and in need to start it manually.....is anyone able to help?
[12:57] <Walex> lazyfingers: in part; in part it is simply that developers like to say "I did this". They can't say "it is fine, leave it is like that" :-)
[12:57] <lazyfingers> Walex, I like things more minimalistic. I find KDE look like a circus with bears on bicycles and the orchestra
[12:57] <Walex> Rar9: and how do you start it manually? And did you have a look at system and Tomcat logs?
[12:58] <Walex> lazyfingers: that's just the default KDE config, you can change it anyway you want. But if you like simple look also at XFCE for example.
[12:58] <lazyfingers> Walex, xfce is too simple.. not that minimalistic :)
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> lazyfingers: or openbox as a standalone WM :)
[12:58] <Walex> or TWM!
[12:59] <Rar9> Walex  I use /etc/init.d/tomcat7 restart
[12:59] <mantas> Hello, I am looking for open source DMS (document management system) with web interface, maybe you can recommend?
[12:59] <Rar9> all I did is upgrade JAVe from 1.6 to 1.7... could this be the problem?
[12:59] <Walex> Rar9: ah yes definitely.
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> Walex: blast from the past, nice
[12:59] <lazyfingers> Walex, ActionParsnip: too much hassle just to be able to use emacs keybindings
[12:59] <Walex> Rar9: check the "alternatives" for Java.
[12:59] <Rar9> and where and how do I need to change that?
[13:00] <Rar9> sorry I´m a windows user....but I slowly getting better :-(
[13:00] <Walex> Rar9: check the startup script for Tomcat, and how it invokes Java. Hopefully it uses one of the generic names
[13:00] <jam3sm> hmm if i install wine from the software centre will it be the 32 bit or 64bit version? if its 32bit will it also install all the needed i386 files ?
[13:00] <lazyfingers> latest ubuntu is forcing me to change my habits of using emacs keybindings and spend time learning vim's keybindings.. unnecessarily
[13:01] <lazyfingers> Walex, ActionParsnip: latest ubuntu is forcing me to change my habits of using emacs keybindings and spend time learning vim's keybindings.. unnecessarily
[13:01] <Rar9> you men this java version "1.7.0_51"
[13:02] <Walex> Rar9: things with Java are a bit complicated because of the need to support multiple versions.
[13:02] <Rar9> or /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle/jre/bin/java
[13:02] <Fool1sh> geirha, I just ran `vncserver :1` as my non-root user. It's weird that when I run the same thing as root and connect with the VNC client I get the full interface.
[13:02] <Rar9> but tomcat 7 is running fine
[13:03] <Rar9> it just doesn´t autostart when rebooting
[13:03] <Walex> Rar9: there is a directory '/usr/lib/jvm' where Java implementations are installed, plus the "alternatives" system.
[13:03] <Walex> Rar9: have a look at 'sudo update-java-alternatives -l'
[13:04] <Rar9> java-7-oracle 1063 /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle
[13:04] <Slampert> So, how do I ensure that Scroll Lock isn't assigned to any command?
[13:05] <Almpert> So, how do I ensure that Scroll Lock isn't assigned to any command?
[13:05] <geirha> Fool1sh: root probably has some configuration set up, while your non-root user does not
[13:05] <Walex> Rar9: uhm, if it does not start just when rebooting it could be several reasons. Check the system logs in '/var/log/' and in particular '/vr/log'/tomcat6'
[13:05] <Slampert> Whoops, opened window twice...
[13:06] <Walex> Rar9: that Java "alternatives" looks good.
[13:06] <Rar9> good :-) and now?
[13:07] <Rar9> etc/init.d/tomcat7 ??
[13:07] <Walex> Rar9: I just had a look at the startup script and now check that 'JAVA_HOME' etc. have the right value in '/etc/default/tomcat6'
[13:08] <Walex> Rar9: note that 12.04 LTS has 'tomcat6' by default IIRC. But if you installed 'tomcat7' check '/etc/default/tomcat7'.
[13:09] <Fool1sh> geirha, yes you are right, something was missing in ~/.vnc/xstartup thank you :)
[13:11] <Rar9> Walex i curretnl have JAVA_HOME=/usr
[13:11] <Rar9> do i need to change it to /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle
[13:12] <Slampert> almpert
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> Rar9: isn't `which java`   just a symlink?
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> !away > Thor|Away
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> Rar9: what is the output of:  file `which java`
[13:14] <Rar9> sorry don´t understand
[13:14] <MrQuist> "That java"
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> Rar9: run the command in termnal, what does it say?
[13:14] <MrQuist> Rar9, execute this in your terminal
[13:14] <MrQuist> 'which java'
[13:14] <Rar9> java- version ?
[13:14] <MrQuist> it should show the location of the "java" application
[13:14] <MrQuist> no, "which java"
[13:14] <Guest24711> ciao
[13:14] <MrQuist> "which"  is a command
[13:14] <Rar9> it tells me /usr/bin/java
[13:14] <MrQuist> ah great
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> Rar9: you missed the 'file' command
[13:15] <MrQuist> ActionParsnip, your turn :)
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> Rar9: what is the output of:  file `which java`
[13:15] <Rar9> it tells me /usr/bin/java
[13:15] <MrQuist> oh lol
[13:15] <MrQuist> ahah
[13:15] <MrQuist> no, Rar9, ActionParsnip wants you to run this command: "file `which java`"
[13:16] <MrQuist> the "`" quote is a nested command
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> Rar9: no, you are not adding the word 'file'. the word 'file' is part of the command
[13:16] <MrQuist> so this basically said "file /usr/bin/java"
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> MrQuist: thanks
[13:16] <MrQuist> "file" is a command, just like "which"
[13:17] <MrQuist> NP, i love playing cpt. obvious
[13:17] <MrQuist> ;)
[13:17] <Rar9> guys please help me... so tomcat7 autostarts again.
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> Rar9: can you run it manually?
[13:17] <Rar9> yes It starts
[13:18] <Rar9> but as said I´ve upgraded java from 1.6 to 1.7
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> Rar9: then add the command in /etc/rc.local   above the 'exit 0' line and it will run as root each boot
[13:19] <Rar9> so If i look at /etc/default/tomcat7 has ablanked out #JAVA_HOME=/usr
[13:20] <Rar9> ActionParsnip where do I do that?
[13:20] <gisli> I just installed ruby1.9.3 on Ubuntu 12.04 and I can't seem to add it to the alternatives via update-alternatives
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> Rar9: run:  gksudo gedit /etc/rc.local
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> Rar9: or for a server:  sudo nano /etc/rc.local    (or whatever editor you like)
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> *cough*vi*cough*
[13:21] <Minnen> hello
[13:21] <hitsujiTMO> ActionParsnip: sudo editor /etc/rc.local                             then :P
[13:22] <Rar9> ActionParsnip all I have here is nohup /home/plesk/pleskinst.sh &
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> Rar9: add on a new line, above the 'exit 0' line, the command you run to start the service
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> Rar9: with an amperand like the line you just pasted, to not hang the boot
[13:24] <Minnen> i have noticed even if i use commands like "purge" and "remove" every time i delete a package it leaves behind many folders, that are no longer needed, do anyone know a good way to get rid of those folders as well as the package? (i.e. uninstalled thunderbird and its folder can still be found in the /etc/ dir)
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> Minnen: does:  dpkg -l | grep ^rc     output anything?
[13:25] <Rar9> ActionParsnip ok..... but my question is why it used to start with java 1.6 and not with java 1.6...  so your way is as if i start it manually
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> Rar9: yes, its a hack but should work
[13:25] <Minnen> im not familiar with that command ActionParsnip, lemme read a bit about it and i will report back the results
[13:25] <Rar9> the bug should be under /etc/init.d/tomcat7
[13:25] <Rar9> or?
[13:25] <Minnen> thanks for the quick response
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> Minnen: its a simple command to copy and paste to terminal, does it output anything?
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> Minnen: what is to read?
[13:26] <Minnen> i was going to google the command to know more about it, im not currently at my ubuntu setup im at my office
[13:26] <Rar9> perhaps this line: JDK_DIRS="/usr/lib/jvm/default-java ${OPENJDKS} /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun"
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> Rar9: whatver you run to make it work, add it there. You could even make a script then add the script name to rc.local for neatness, same deal though.
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> Minnen: dpkg -l   lists allinstalled packages, the grep shows lines that start (the ^ denotes starts with) 'rc' so only those lines are output
[13:29] <Minnen> and rc stands for?
[13:29] <Minnen> configuration files?
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> Minnen: removed but old configs left (the ones outside $HOME)
[13:29] <Minnen> ahh
[13:30] <Xuisce1> hi all
[13:30] <kenneth__> hello
[13:31] <Xuisce1> hi kenneth__
[13:42] <Walex> Rar9: '/usr/lib/jvm/default-java' should be set by the "alternatives" system to the right value, check that.
[13:43] <Rar9> thank you to I´ve just altered the Last posted lin t point o the right directoy..
[13:43] <Rar9> its booting again.
[13:44] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[14:01] <kingfisher64> where do I report third party bugs to popular Ubuntu programs? I've got a strange one with docky when the recycle bin is pinned to the dock and trash emptied - it crashes the program every time
[14:06] <Guest97811> @find A Compendium of Neuropsychological Tests
[14:06] <Pici> Guest97811: This isn't that kind of channel.
[14:09] <phunyguy> kingfisher64, isn't docky dead?
[14:10] <phunyguy> kingfisher64, if not, https://launchpad.net/docky
[14:10] <kingfisher64> i don't know phunyguy? I just want that launcher on the bottom
[14:11] <phunyguy> kingfisher64, also, channel #docky on freenode apparently exists.
[14:11] <kingfisher64> thanks phunguy, didn't know either of those things as this is my first week with Ubuntu
[14:11] <phunyguy> kingfisher64, you can look into plank which is slated to replace it, but it is very young still.
[14:11] <phunyguy> errr new to ubuntu, forget it then
[14:11] <phunyguy> (no GUI config)
[14:12] <phunyguy> and welcome to Ubuntu :)
[14:12] <kingfisher64> thanks, wanted to rid myself of windoze for years but finally made the permanent move.
[14:15] <jackneill> is there a structorizer like program for linux (http://structorizer.fisch.lu/)? this doesnt work, i got java error, or runtime error...etc..
[14:15] <jackneill> and the online version doesnt work either.
[14:15] <Wiz_KeeD> For installing Ubuntu and Windows in dual-boot on a ssd and using a caddy as well, you guys think partitioning 80 gigs (windows) 40 gigs(Ubuntu) on the ssd and having the full magnetic hard-drive as on partition on ntfs be ok?
[14:19] <Rory> Wiz_KeeD: Sounds fine
[14:24] <Xuisce1> hi all
[14:28] <kingfisher64> thanks phunyguy i've reported it at launchpad however it already existed as a problem. Docky keeps continually crashing for me so I think i'm going to uninstall.
[14:28] <kingfisher64> is there a way to get the unity launcher on the bottom in 13.10?
[14:29] <kingfisher64> done the googling on this and aparantly a fix was only available in v 10x of ubuntu
[14:30] <rob321> hey, i recently did a clean install on my computer with ubuntu 12.04 LTS, and I can't get any of my printers working now.....   The updates this morning installed the newest HPLIP but that didn't help at all. Google shows that this seems a common problem, but I can't find a SOLUTION from anything I read, just other people with the same problem....   Any printer experts here?
[14:32] <rob321> I've tried 3 printers too, and other things work on the usb ports, just not printers....   the printers say "printing test page" or whatever job I send, then they say "printing completed" but nothing happens
[14:32] <tachyons> king1337-2, No
[14:32] <tachyons> kingfisher64, No, you can't
[14:33] <MrQuist> rob321, bash the printer
[14:33] <MrQuist> just smash it with other peripheral devices
[14:34] <rob321> I'll run to Home Depot for a sledge right now.....
[14:35] <kingfisher64> not sure why it can't be committed to unity tweak under launcher tab tachyons - let people choose
[14:35] <SonikkuAmerica> A... sledge? Sounds a bit !ot to me...
[14:35] <Xuisce1> ho rob321
[14:35] <rob321> hey, if I have to bash and smash, do it right...
[14:36] <tachyons> kingfisher64, It is a design decision by Mark shuttle worth
[14:36] <kingfisher64> that's one person and that's solid reasoning if only Mark Shuttleworth is using Unity tachyons
[14:36] <SonikkuAmerica> kingfisher64: Also, feel free to code something yourself - Unity is free and open-source
[14:36] <rob321> I tried this "debugging page" but everything seems to check out....   I'm at a total loss here   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingPrintingProblems
[14:37] <kingfisher64> I'm not a developer SonikkuAmerica.
[14:37] <SonikkuAmerica> What an excuse.
[14:37] <kingfisher64> lol
[14:38] <tachyons> kingfisher64, why? in unity the launcher is supposed to display in left side, if you hate it use gnome-shell
[14:38] <tachyons> or any other de
[14:39] <SonikkuAmerica> Not-a-developer me spent a good 5 minutes on the command line and in /etc/fstab setting up a Windows partition as a mount point.
[14:39] <SonikkuAmerica> Also, Not a Coder®.
[14:39] <kingfisher64> i'll try cairo dock. Docky keeps crashing.
[14:40] <kingfisher64> what is gnome-shell tachyons? Only had ubuntu installed since Tuesday
[14:40] <SonikkuAmerica> !GNOME
[14:40] <SonikkuAmerica> Well that's descriptive, and I wrote that factoid myself...
[14:40] <philinux> kingfisher64;~ or try xfce4 DE
[14:40]  * SonikkuAmerica uses XFCE himself.
[14:41]  * philinux got use to unity
[14:42] <kingfisher64> so will I only lose the unity launcher and nothing else? I love the way information is presented when the top icon is clicked just want the launcher at the bottom - fits more icons on
[14:42] <LucidGuy> Does Ubuntu no longer support/work with the etc/networking/interfaces file?  I prefer it over using network-manager
[14:42] <Wiz_KeeD> Rory, thank you for your input, I will do it just like that
[14:42] <rob321> ok, maybe someone has a good idea of another place to go for help?
[14:42] <philinux> kingfisher64;~ i like it on the left as on a widescreen monitor or laptop i get more vertical space
[14:43] <Peace-> hello i tried to get info about my RAM but when i do sudo lshw or sudo dmidecode | grep -A 15 Memory i can't get FREQUENCY info
[14:43] <kingfisher64> i'm right handed philinux so it feels more natural to be closing windows, clicking menus on the right or bottom
[14:44] <kingfisher64> it would be perfect it I was left handed
[14:44] <philinux> kingfisher64;~ I think the close buttons can be moved
[14:44] <kingfisher64> yeah in unity tweak i've moved them to the right philinux
[14:45] <philinux> kingfisher64;~ but position of launcher is hard coded
[14:45] <Raymondo> hey. I just upgraded my vps release from 10.04 to 12.04 and when I restart it has read-only file system
[14:45] <kingfisher64> hard coded launcher position is the equivalent of using a fixed position design in webdesign as opposed to a responsive design - not a good idea.
[14:45] <Peace-> Raymondo: guess you need to edit fstab
[14:45] <Raymondo> Peace-: oh?
[14:46] <Peace-> !fstab
[14:46] <Raymondo> I'm in finnix now
[14:46] <philinux> kingfisher64;~ that subject has been done to death years ago
[14:46] <Xuisce1> ~wine
[14:46] <Xuisce1> !wine
[14:46] <Xuisce1> hm
[14:47] <Peace-> Raymondo: i read bad sorry i dunno about vps
[14:47] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: can you pastebin the output of: dmesg
[14:48] <rob321> OK, well, thanks guys
[14:48] <Raymondo> hitsujiTMO: can't select text in this console. am I looking for something in particular?
[14:49] <TJ-> Raymondo: Is it Linode?
[14:49] <Raymondo> TJ-: no
[14:49] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: have you ssh'd in?
[14:49] <Raymondo> hitsujiTMO: ssh doesn't run
[14:49] <Raymondo> this is finnix web console
[14:50] <TJ-> Raymondo: Is it dropping to a shell prompt in the initrd?
[14:50] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: you're looking for hd errors especially IO Errors
[14:52] <Raymondo> TJ-: I don't have much visibility at all. by the time the console is available, all I can see is mknod errors in /proc
[14:52] <Raymondo> which just means the file system is read-only
[14:52] <rob321> any thoughts ona good place to figure out whats wrong with my printers anyone?
[14:52] <TJ-> Raymondo: You've already done fsck ?
[14:52] <Raymondo> hitsujiTMO: nothing jumps out at me from running dmesg in finnix
[14:52] <Raymondo> TJ-: no
[14:53] <TJ-> Raymondo: That'd be #1
[14:53] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: what exactly happens when you boot up if ssh server isn'd loaded
[14:53] <Raymondo> hitsujiTMO: like I said. I eventually get to see mknod errors in the web console
[14:54] <Raymondo> but it's not interactive
[14:54] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: do you have access curl from the shell you are on?
[14:54] <LoZioNe> ragazzi ho una domanda,sono con BT4 r2 come unico s.o. installato sul pc,stò scaricando la .iso di Kali 1.0.6 amd64... com'è meglio fare per masterizzare la .iso su una usb da 8 Gb?
[14:54] <Raymondo> hitsujiTMO: yeah
[14:55] <Raymondo> you want me to pipe dmesg to pastebin post via curl? :P
[14:56] <Raymondo> TJ-: what exactly?
[14:56] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: lets start with: dmesg | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[14:57] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: can you also do a: fdisk -l | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[14:57] <Raymondo> hitsujiTMO: couldn't resolve host
[14:57] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: please try: dmesg | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://<IP_ADDRESS>
[14:58] <TJ-> Raymondo: there's little value in checking the current Finnix dmesg until you've fsck-ed the file-systems ... if that doesn't show any problems, you should be looking at /var/log/* for the most recent changes at/after the upgrade, for indications of errors.
[14:58] <Raymondo> hitsujiTMO: 'network is unreachable'
[14:59] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: ok.you've no net access.
[14:59] <Raymondo> TJ-: yeah I'm not really sure how to find the filesystems I need to check
[14:59] <gtrepas> hello
[15:00] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: start with: fdisk -l              to find the devices.
[15:00] <TJ-> Raymondo: who is the VPS provider? Is it Xen, KVM, OpenVZ, or what?
[15:01] <Raymondo> 3 disks. for each it says 'doesn't contain a valid partition table'
[15:01] <Raymondo> TJ-: xen
[15:01] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: Raymondo that is because they are file-system images ... do "blkid ..." on each
[15:02] <TJ-> Raymondo: So you've got nodes like "/dev/xvda" ?
[15:02] <Raymondo> TJ-: yeah. found the ext3 one
[15:02] <Raymondo> other two are swap and finnix cd
[15:02] <TJ-> Raymondo: OK, so now you can "fsck /dev/xvd?"
[15:03] <Raymondo> '/dev/xvda2: clean, x/y files, a/b blocks' (big numbers)
[15:04] <TJ-> Raymondo: Good sign :) Now you can mount it to check the logs: "mkdir /mnt/target && mount /dev/xvda2 /mnt/target"
[15:04] <kingfisher64> so can I install gnome can I choose on login which interface to use tachyons. I've been looking at kde, unity and gnome reviews
[15:05] <TJ-> Raymondo: then start by listing the logs most-recent last "ls -latr /mnt/target/var/log/"
[15:05] <tachyons> kingfisher64, yes
[15:05] <TJ-> Raymondo: then you can review the most recent logs looking for issues... use "less <log-file>" if it is in that finnix image"
[15:07] <kingfisher64> and once the interface is installed it effects the whole os? I really like some aspects of default 13.10 with unity
[15:07] <kingfisher64> just not the launcher
[15:08] <gtrepas> guys i was thinking of switching to opensuse kde but i have no idea what to expect from that. any ideas?
[15:09] <hitsujiTMO> gtrepas: might be a better question for ##linux
[15:09] <Raymondo> TJ-, hitsujiTMO: kern.log - cannot read proc file system: 1 - operation not permitted. (last message repeated about a gazillion times)
[15:09] <gtrepas> oh ok sorry about that
[15:10] <Raymondo> it was suggested I edit /boot/grub/menu.lst but not only does menu.lst not exist, there is no /boot/grub in /mnt/target
[15:10] <tachyons> kingfisher64, you can install it safely
[15:10] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: what version of ubuntu is it?
[15:10] <DJones> gtrepas: I think opensuse have quite a few channels on freenode, maybe look for #suse or #opensuse
[15:10] <Raymondo> hitsujiTMO: I ran do-release-upgrade on 10.04 to get 12.04
[15:10] <kingfisher64> watching http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMI-cuN6C2M tachyons
[15:11] <kingfisher64> i've heard nice things about KDE as well
[15:11] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: I'm wondering if its related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rsyslog/+bug/523610
[15:12] <hitsujiTMO> altho the bug doesn't seem to suggest a non boot
[15:13] <Raymondo> hitsujiTMO: would you suggest updating to a newer kernel before running the release upgrade?
[15:13] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: are you on a XenPV server?
[15:13] <Raymondo> I dunno
[15:14] <ikonia> your machine should be up to date with all ubuntu packages (no external repo packages) before the upgrade
[15:14] <ikonia> so the kernel should be the latest provided by the stable ubuntu core repo for your version
[15:14] <Raymondo> ikonia: I have a choice of kernerls
[15:14] <Raymondo> -r
[15:14] <ikonia> Raymondo: how do you have a choice ?
[15:14] <Raymondo> web admin panel
[15:15] <ikonia> Raymondo: then you shouldn't upgrade anything
[15:15] <Raymondo> ?
[15:15] <ikonia> as the chances are it's a basterdised ubuntu build - which the upgrade process will fail on
[15:15] <ikonia> it will be some sort of container (probably)
[15:15] <Pici> Raymondo: Who is your VPS provider?
[15:16] <kingfisher64> when you say safely that obviously implies there's an unsafe way to install gnome tachyons. Have I understood you right?
[15:16] <Raymondo> Pici: you wouldn't have heard of it
[15:16] <Raymondo> ikonia: the bug thread says this issue happens on older kernels, which is what I'm running
[15:17] <Raymondo> I have the option to run a newer stable kernel
[15:17] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: Since you have no /boot/grub I'd assume its a PV vps.
[15:17] <ikonia> Raymondo: I'd ignore that thread and not do anything until you know your situation
[15:17] <tachyons> kingfisher64, I mean gnome in your ubuntu repo is safe it will not affect your unity .
[15:17] <Raymondo> hitsujiTMO: the suggestion about /boot/grub was from the vps support :/
[15:18] <Rualmoneyman> Hello Im trying to boot Ubuntu 12.04.03 from Usb and i go through the steps,but it restarts every time.
[15:18] <Raymondo> ikonia: what else do I need to know about my situation?
[15:18] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: they may be giving out both pv and hvm in which that answer applies to hvm
[15:19] <Raymondo> hitsujiTMO: I see
[15:19] <Raymondo> that would imply they didn't even look at my account before answering
[15:19] <ikonia> Raymondo: I would talk to your hosting provided and ask them for support on this, the basteridsed builds that are normally in place on these types of situations will fail during upgrade
[15:19] <kingfisher64> have you tried kde tachyons?
[15:20] <kingfisher64> probably will try both starting with gnome
[15:20] <tachyons> kingfisher64, yes
[15:20] <Raymondo> ikonia: the first line of the response: 'In-line upgrades between major Ubuntu releases is not recommended on the VPS platform, but still possible.'
[15:20] <ikonia> Raymondo: yeah, it's going to fail then
[15:20] <ikonia> Raymondo: I'd put money on it
[15:20] <ikonia> if they are putting that warning on it keep away from it
[15:20] <ikonia> more so with the changes they must be using to use web pannels
[15:21] <Raymondo> this upgrade is going to be a nightmare then
[15:22] <ikonia> I suspect it will just fail being honest,
[15:22] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: What type of services have you running on the server?
[15:22] <ikonia> unless we know how your system works properly, it's a guess
[15:22] <Raymondo> hitsujiTMO: just lamp really
[15:22] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: do you have a backup of the data?
[15:22] <Raymondo> yeah
[15:23] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: may be easiest to reroll an new instance of the 12.04 image then and restore your data
[15:23] <Raymondo> that's what I mean by nightmare :)
[15:24] <Raymondo> anyway, I've made a fair bit of progress in figuring this out
[15:24] <Raymondo> thanks all
[15:24] <Rualmoneyman> Hello Im trying to boot Ubuntu 12.04.03 from Usb and i go through the steps,but it restarts every time.
[15:26] <standoo> what is the minimum system requirements/recomended system requirements for ubuntu?
[15:26] <ikonia> stated on the website
[15:28] <Pici> !requirements > standoo
[15:33] <Noah_Budy> just installed 13.10. which channels are good for new users?
[15:34] <ding> Anyone using cinnamon with 13.10 ? X keeps locking up on me regardless of whether gdm or lightdm is in use...
[15:35] <v0lksman> hello! I'm trying to upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10 and get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6808882/
[15:36] <ruth> #minecraft
[15:41] <glitsj16> v0lksman: how did you try to upgrade to 13.10? GUI, terminal command? .. i think your paste suggests you might have tried upgrading to 14.04, hence the error
[15:41] <v0lksman> glitsj16: through the GUI...it said it would upgrade to 13.10
[15:42] <v0lksman> just found this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/360293/could-not-calculate-the-upgrade-what-happened
[15:42] <v0lksman> and have looked at the log:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6808906/
[15:43] <v0lksman> so does this mean I should remove xserver-xorg-video-all and try again?
[15:43] <hitsujiTMO> v0lksman: are you using any ppas?
[15:44] <glitsj16> v0lksman: is that marked as broken?
[15:44] <sh0t> hi guys
[15:44] <v0lksman> hitsujiTMO: yes...xorg edgers...can't remember why I needed it though
[15:45] <hitsujiTMO> !ppa-purge | v0lksman remove it with this then try the upgrade
[15:45] <adsc> can I install ubuntu in outlook?
[15:45] <sh0t> i am trying to install ubuntu 12.04 LTS on a hp envy premium. at boot time after pressing enter to grub i cannot anything
[15:45] <sh0t> does it depend on something related to the video card?
[15:45] <sh0t> how can i solve it?
[15:45] <v0lksman> glitsj16: yeah I think so..there are a bunch of xorg packs that are listed as broken when I run  grep Broken /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log
[15:46] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: what version of the iso are you using?
[15:46] <glitsj16> v0lksman: follow hitsujiTMO's advice and also take care of the broken packages before upgrading
[15:47] <sh0t> hitsujiTMO, ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso this one
[15:48] <Fevix> Hello, I'm a brand new Ubuntu user. My laptop in the corner is running 13.10 Saucy Salamander, and with an update, none of the hardware is being detected. (MOuse, keyboard, network adaptor, external monitor...) The laptop's normal hardware is being detected and used just fine, but nothing else is working. Is there a known fix for this issue?
[15:48] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: what exactly happens after grub? blank screen?
[15:49] <sh0t> black screen
[15:49] <sh0t> hitsujiTMO, ^^
[15:49] <hitsujiTMO> !nomodeset | give this a sh0t
[15:50] <sh0t> thanks hitsujiTMO i'll give it a try
[15:50] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: it maybe the case that you might need upgraded drivers to boot however (such as those supplied in 13.10) in which case you may need to wait for the 12.04.4 release
[15:51] <alexandros> hello!
[15:51] <HellTiger> hello
[15:52] <adsc> hey guys, i am mostly outlook user (important management tasks), can I install an Ubuntu in outlook?
[15:52] <HellTiger> what is the state of tablet version for ubuntu? and what happend to the netbook version? i have here a archos9 with win7, i ts slow and i wana install a touchpad ubuntu
[15:52] <DJones> !touch | HellTiger This is probably th best place for info on the tablet/phone version,
[15:53] <HellTiger> adac, ubuntu is a operation system and outlook a email client, you can nost install ubuntu in outlook, please clarify your question
[15:53] <HellTiger> th DJones
[15:53] <alexandros> I am trying out a xubuntu distribution but there's a problem with the wifi card: TP-LINK TL-WN322G. Although it is recognized and it can scan networks, it cannot connect to them.  Any ideas ?
[15:53] <HellTiger> alexandros: did you connected the same device with different os all ready to this network?
[15:54] <alexandros> HellTiger: yes. On a different system running ubuntu
[15:54] <adsc> HellTiger: what do you mean? I constantly operate systems from within outlook, why can't Ubuntu be installed, too?
[15:54] <HellTiger> you may have to set your wlan router to auto select connections, cause its to new/high for your device
[15:54] <alexandros> HellTiger: same wifi device, same network
[15:54] <Fevix> Hello, I'm a brand new Ubuntu user. My laptop in the corner is running 13.10 Saucy Salamander, and with an update, none of the hardware is being detected. (MOuse, keyboard, network adaptor, external monitor...) The laptop's normal hardware is being detected and used just fine, but nothing else is working. Is there a known fix for this issue?
[15:54] <HellTiger> ok, that was once the case here, alexandros
[15:55] <hitsujiTMO> HellTiger: the ubuntu moblin was killed off with the decline in netbook sales when the market saturated. Best to try something like lubuntu or xubuntu
[15:55] <Fevix> ALl of the hardware was detected and usable prior to the update.
[15:55] <HellTiger> adsc: maybe i missunderstand, what for systems do you operate in outlook?
[15:55] <peasant65> hi ! Can someone here help me setup the flash player for ampache (not Apache2!)
[15:55] <TJ-> alexandros: Check in "/var/log/syslog" for Network-Manager entries. They are usually very verbose and descriptive
[15:55] <HellTiger> ok hitsujiTMO, thx
[15:56] <alexandros> TJ- ok!
[15:56] <adsc> HellTiger: payment systems, scheduling systems, other systems that operate on business tasks
[15:56] <peasant65> hi ! Can someone here help me setup the flash player for ampache (not Apache2!)
[15:56] <HellTiger> so i didnt understand which part of ubuntu you want to use in it.
[15:56] <adsc> I just heard Ubuntu is good and I want to give it a try, but only if it works from within outlook, because outlook is the best program
[15:56] <hitsujiTMO> adsc: none of them are operating systems
[15:57] <adsc> hitsujiTMO: maybe not, but they also are systems that operate on something, so why can't Ubuntu operating system be used in outlook?
[15:57] <hitsujiTMO> adsc: ubuntu is an operating system, like windows or OS X. It doesn't run in a app
[15:57] <HellTiger> you can use thunderbird in ubuntu, or outlook in windows
[15:57] <HellTiger> but you cant install windows into outlook
[15:58] <sh0t> hitsujiTMO, it seems with nomodeset i can see the splash image but after that it gives me a shell (not in X environment) saying: general error mounting filesystems. A maintenance shell will be now started. CONTROL-D will terminate and reboot the system. bash: groups : command not found
[15:58] <sh0t> a different problem it seems
[15:58] <HellTiger> maybe he means the cloud services of ubuntu
[15:58] <adsc> hmmm
[15:58] <HellTiger> adsc: what do you think is ubuntu?
[15:58] <HellTiger> and what exactly is outlook
[15:58] <adsc> but what use is Ubuntu, when you can not use it in outlook? Does anyone use anything else besides outlook?
[15:59] <Fevix> Can anyone assist me? A recent update caused my machine to stop recognizing any hardware.
[15:59] <TJ-> adsc: If you were talking about an Outlook KVM switch you might make a little more sense, but as it is... !
[15:59] <adsc> HellTiger: i don't know what Ubuntu is, I just heard it's good...and outlook is simply the best program...everyone I know uses it
[15:59] <TJ-> Fevix: Review the log-files "/var/log/kern.log" and "/var/log/syslog" in particular
[16:00] <Fevix> TJ-: Will do.
[16:00] <hitsujiTMO> adsc: are you reffering to microsoft outlook?
[16:00] <DJones> adsc: You are talking about Outlook the email client?
[16:00] <HellTiger> adsc: compare both articles:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Outlook   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28operating_system%29
[16:00] <kingfisher64> according to http://fosshelp.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/how-to-install-gnome-3-on-ubuntu-1310.html tachyons gnome 3.10 breaks unity. I'm still going to install as it looks like i'd prefer it. Did you not experience anything breaking?
[16:00] <adsc> HellTiger: yeah, if you can really operate systems in Ubuntu, I am very interested
[16:00] <chep> hello there
[16:01] <adsc> DJones: yeah, I guess, but outlook is so much more
[16:01] <HellTiger> well i bet its microsoft windows what you mean adsc.
[16:01] <adsc> outlook is in a windows, yes
[16:02] <DJones> adsc: From that perspective, Ubuntu is like Windows, they're both operating systems that you would run an email client on top of
[16:02] <adsc> but i don't want Ubuntu to be in another windows, it should be in the same window as outlook
[16:02] <adsc> what do you mean like windows? I don't need more windows
[16:02] <DJones> adsc: Well, no you can't do that
[16:02] <HellTiger> well this is hopeless, you need to read both articles carefull adsc. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Outlook   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28operating_system%29
[16:02] <ruth> Guys, will  "sudo apt-get remove pipelight"  erase all commands I put in the terminal for it? I tried to get netflix and it runs but is quite choppy sometimes, so I decided to erase it. Then, I tried it a few more times and then tried to erase it again being it was still choppy. Then.... I saw the pipelight for silverlight in the software center and downloaded and, still the netflix is choppy. What should I do?
[16:03] <Fevix> I do not know what I'm looking at here. I'm transferring the two files mentioned to a flash drive and will upload them to my dropbox to see if any of you can help.
[16:04] <peasant65> please can someone help me ?...
[16:04] <adsc> DJones: okay, thanks. A pity, I guess. Also, I don't understand what use Ubuntu is, then, if it doesn't work in outlook...who doesn't use Outlook?
[16:04] <chep> I'm trying to use extlinux to create a bootable usb stick. I dl  Syslinux 6.02, build it and execute it on archlinux, it works. When I do the same on ubuntu it fails => no boot, only syslinux copoyright displayed. When I use the binary compiled with archlinux on ubuntu, it fails too. When I use the binary compiled with ubuntu on archlinux, it works. So it's not a compilation problem, only execution. Does anyone know something about
[16:04] <chep> this?
[16:04] <jhutchins> peasant65: How can we answer if we don't know what you need help with?
[16:04] <peasant65> hi ! Can someone here help me setup the flash player for ampache (not Apache2!)
[16:04] <ruth> I also used the agent overrider in my browser to let it in.
[16:05] <peasant65> jhutchins I'm trying to setup ampache with flash player
[16:05] <chep> too much noise on this chan
[16:06] <peasant65> jhutchins only it won't display my flash player
[16:06] <HellTiger> peasant65: XSPF JukeBox Flash Player http://ampache.org/wiki/install:ubuntu
[16:06] <adsc> maybe I can pay someone to make Ubuntu work in outlook?
[16:06] <somsip> !ot | adsc
[16:06] <peasant65> HellTiger yes i've looked at it, and there is a command to inflate and place the flash player in the right dir
[16:06] <peasant65> only i've installed ampache somewhere else
[16:06] <HellTiger> adsc: this is getting absurd. you confuse the name of a email client with a operating system. ask a friend how both software works.
[16:06] <DJones> adsc: No, there's no point continuing to ask
[16:06] <peasant65> so i moved it there, but that doesnt work
[16:06] <Fevix> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/23659259/ubuntu/syslog and https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/23659259/ubuntu/kern.log <--Ubuntu 13.10 stopped recognizing any and all hardware after an update.