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 I hope you can get some rest in the afternoon
[08:21] <TheMuso> And sleep.
[08:21] <seb128> pitti, thanks!
[08:21] <didrocks> pitti: I'm the only one being really ok with Laney at that table :)
[08:21] <TheMuso> If you're run down, you are more likely to come down with something.
[08:22] <willcooke> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typhoid_Mary  <-- this is desrt
[08:22] <darkxst> TheMuso, I satisfy that criteria even when I am not run down ;(
[08:23] <darkxst> though I am pretty safe here was many 1000km's away from the Fosflu
[08:23] <Laney> pitti: what's a state officer?
[08:23] <TheMuso> darkxst: Yeah so was I.
[08:24] <TheMuso> darkxst: Although I still got a slightly irritated throat thanks to probably being slightly run down early last week and the sudden weather change in Sydney.
[08:24] <pitti> Laney: she works in the Bavarian ministry for surveying now; how do you call people who work for the state administration?  I thought "officers"?
[08:24] <TheMuso> I'm still trying to shake that off, nothing bad, just annoying.
[08:24] <pitti> Laney: or perhaps "public servant" or so?
[08:25] <darkxst> TheMuso, I get a cold everytime I catch the V/line into the city ;(
[08:25] <TheMuso> darkxst: Ouch.
[08:25] <darkxst> it is a serious germ incubator ;(
[08:25] <Laney> pitti: civil servant perhaps?
[08:25] <pitti> Laney: you tell me, you are the native speaker :)
[08:25] <TheMuso> darkxst: Yeah, and we all have different imune systems.
[08:25] <Laney> I think so :P
[08:26] <Laney> I don't think these guys get a ceremony for us though
[08:26] <darkxst> TheMuso, mine is particularly hopeless, had Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, and numerous other things as a kid
[08:26] <TheMuso> darkxst: Yeah I am sure that wouldn't be pleasant.
[08:28] <willcooke> mlankhorst, morning! Did you manage to get Xmir sync'd with LP?
[08:28] <didrocks> Laney: \o/
[08:28] <didrocks> try harder DUDE!
[08:36] <willcooke> sad face:  http://launchpadlibrarian.net/196680584/mlankhorst-xmir-xmir.log
[08:36] <willcooke> mlankhorst, ^
[08:38] <attente_> larsu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10069112/
[08:41] <mlankhorst> hmm..
[08:42] <mlankhorst> *pokes the git repo*
[08:42] <mlankhorst> warning: remote HEAD refers to nonexistent ref, unable to checkout.
[08:43] <seb128> qengho, what's the status of the chromium update?
[08:58] <mlankhorst> fixed
[08:59] <mlankhorst> willcooke: ^
[09:01] <willcooke> thanks mlankhorst
[09:23] <mardy> Saviq: hi! I'm having trouble starting unity8 on an ideapad s3-10t, do you have some time for some questions?
[09:27] <seb128> didrocks, pitti, is there a recommendation on what to do with segfaulting services under systemd? should we use Restart=on-failure for system services?
[09:28] <Saviq> mardy, try me, but won't be overly responsive, @sprint in BRU
[09:28] <didrocks> seb128: well, we should fix them first, but yeah, Restart=on-failure is an option
[09:29] <pitti> seb128: touch uses Restart=on-failure a lot indeed; the restarts are throttled, so it should not be too harmful to use that
[09:29] <didrocks> seb128: if the service fails too quickly (like 5 times in 10s), it won't retry then
[09:29] <pitti> seb128: so for stuff where restarting does work, it makes sense as a fallback
[09:29] <mardy> Saviq: ok, let's try :-) So, I'm running vivid, and installed the unity8-desktop-session-mir; when I log in, all I see is a black screen with a mouse cursor; unity8 is not running
[09:30] <mardy> Saviq: is there a way to start unity8 from a terminal and see what's going on?
[09:30] <seb128> didrocks, pitti, I'm asking because playing with bluetooth I hit a few bluetoothd segfaults this week and the service doesn't restart which is confusing
[09:30] <seb128> would it make sense for me to add the restart to it?
[09:30] <didrocks> seb128: yeah, so let's use Restart=on-failure
[09:30] <didrocks> yeah, I think so
[09:30] <seb128> I looked at a few like udisks and noticed they don't set restart so I was wondering if we had guidelines on that
[09:30] <seb128> didrocks, thanks
[09:30] <pitti> seb128: dbus activation kind of provides that :)
[09:31] <seb128> oh, right
[09:31] <seb128> bluetoothd doesn't do that
[09:31] <ChrisTownsend> mardy: Could you pastebin /var/log/lightdm/unity-system-compositor.log?
[09:33] <ChrisTownsend> seb128: Have you tried unity8 desktop today with all updates?
[09:34] <seb128> ChrisTownsend, no, is it buggy?
[09:34]  * seb128 grabs test laptop
[09:34] <seb128> ChrisTownsend, ja, known issue
[09:34] <seb128> ChrisTownsend, sudo stop ofono; sudo restart network-manager
[09:34] <ChrisTownsend> seb128: Ah ok.  I'll try.
[09:34] <seb128> ChrisTownsend, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telephony-service/+bug/1417525
[09:36] <ChrisTownsend> seb128: Is that supposed to immediately unblock the lockscreen?
[09:36] <seb128> ChrisTownsend, I think it was for me but I'm unsure now, maybe I sudo restart lightdm
[09:37] <ChrisTownsend> seb128: Thanks!
[09:37] <seb128> yw!
[09:38] <Saviq> mardy, check out ~/.upstart for any logs when that happens
[09:39] <Saviq> mardy, actually, do you have ubuntu-application-api2-test installed?
[09:39] <Saviq> mardy, there's a bug about this missing dep
[09:40] <mardy> Saviq: yes, I installed it manually
[09:41] <Saviq> mardy, is anything crashing?
[09:42] <mardy> Saviq: in the upstart unity8.log I can see a crash ("double free or corruption")
[09:43] <mardy> ChrisTownsend, Saviq: the /var/log/lightdm/unity-system-compositor.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10069910
[09:43] <Saviq> mardy, got a .crash file in /var/crash then?
[09:44] <ChrisTownsend> mardy: Ok, that log looks normal.
[09:45] <mardy> Saviq: yes, but it was not uploaded
[09:45] <mardy> Saviq: do you know how I can tell apport to upload it?
[09:45] <Saviq> mardy, apport-cli /var/crash/file.crash
[10:19] <mardy> ChrisTownsend, Saviq: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1418456
[10:19] <Saviq> mardy, subscribe us please
[10:19] <mardy> Saviq: I just made it public
[10:21] <Saviq> mardy, ok, this seems to be going mir-direction
[10:21] <Saviq> mardy, but that might be a red herring too
[10:24] <mardy> Saviq: btw, this is the ideapad from the Meego conference in Dublin; do you have one too?
[10:25] <Saviq> mardy, yeah, got rid of it some time ago
[10:25] <mardy> Saviq: poor thing ;-)
[10:26] <mardy> Saviq, ChrisTownsend: anyway, if you happen to have any things for me to try, you are welcome, I'll keep that machine running (and I don't need to do anything else on it)
[10:28] <ChrisTownsend> mardy: Ok.  Nothing jumps out of me aside from what Saviq has said.
[10:40] <didrocks> pitti: hum, I'm crashing plymouth and get garbage until now, looking…
[10:40] <didrocks> at least, I detect connection/disconnect/reconnect
[10:56] <seb128> Laney, larsu, easy review karma for you? https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/unity-settings-daemon/housekeeping-label-width/+merge/248729
[11:06] <seb128> Laney, larsu, upstream beat you at reviewing :p
[11:06]  * seb128 commited to g-s-d git
[11:09] <Laney> nice
[11:14] <seb128> Laney, thanks for review :-)
[12:41] <didrocks> larsu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10072498/
[12:43] <larsu> didrocks: do a %c and pass a char, just to make sure
[12:43] <larsu> also, print i
[12:43] <didrocks> ok
[12:45] <didrocks> larsu: i: 0, char:
[12:45] <didrocks> sounds… funky
[12:49] <larsu> funky!
[12:49] <larsu> i should be 1, right?
[12:49] <didrocks> yeah
[12:50] <didrocks> should I loop to printf the buffer as char to ensure?
[12:50]  * larsu slaps forehead
[12:50] <larsu> ouch
[12:50] <didrocks> it did happen! :p
[12:50] <larsu> %d _parses_ a string
[12:50] <didrocks> WAT?
[12:50] <larsu> err, int. in a string. Like "14"
[12:51] <larsu> you have 4 bytes which represent an int
[12:51] <larsu> in short: don't use scanf here
[12:51]  * larsu is sorry for taking so long. Really shouldn't do anything critical today
[12:51] <didrocks> time to do some space engineering!
[12:52] <didrocks> so, %d parse a string
[12:52] <didrocks> so only one char
[12:52] <didrocks> right?
[13:34] <qengho> seb128: Hi! chromium is built. It seems to work. Uploading soon.
[13:36] <seb128> qengho, great, I'm running the version from the ppa, confirmed to work fine here
[13:36] <qengho> seb128: thank you.
[13:45] <willcooke> qengho, \o/ great!
[14:04] <qengho> seb128: do you mind uploading to V? I'll ask chriscc to upload to security when he's online.
[14:04] <seb128> qengho, can do, is that a pocket copy on vivid?
[14:05] <qengho> seb128: that should work. That's what ccc does.
[14:06] <qengho> https://launchpad.net/~canonical-chromium-builds/+archive/ubuntu/stage/+packages
[15:45] <willcooke> pmcgowan has just hit a bug very similar to this one:
[15:45] <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/1418295
[15:45] <willcooke> This sounds like a U7 issue to me rather than a vid. driver
[15:45] <willcooke> what do you reckon mlankhorst, seb128  ^
[15:46] <willcooke> and bregma for good measure ^
[15:49] <seb128> Laney, http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/09/26/%23ubuntu-touch.html#t17:22
[15:49] <bregma> a new graphics stack just got released in 14.10 (there's no new Unity stack in 14.10)
[15:49] <willcooke> bregma, thx
[15:49] <mlankhorst> willcooke: likely..
[15:50] <seb128> yeah
[15:50] <willcooke> mlankhorst, is the new gfx stack under your control, or is this a foundations thing?
[15:50] <mlankhorst> willcooke: the stack landed in trusty with lts-utopic, but this might be a bug in xxv-intel since an update was just released from -proposed
[15:51] <willcooke> oh, also - pmcgowan said this has been happening since around Oct - so it might be an old bug
[15:51] <mlankhorst> oke :/
[15:51] <willcooke> does that change anything for you bregma? ^
[15:51] <mlankhorst> probably does for me...
[15:52] <pmcgowan> I believe its always been the case in 14.10, or soon after release
[15:54] <ChrisTownsend> Black screen after suspend smells of an X issue or lower than that of an issue in Unity.  If it was Unity crashing, then you'd probably at least get a wallpaper but no Launcher or Panel.
[15:55] <ChrisTownsend> Lower meaning a graphics driver issue.
[15:56] <willcooke> but then, killing "unity-panel-service --lockscreenmode" /sometimes/ fixes it
[15:56] <willcooke> which is weird
[15:58] <seb128> pitti, so, my reboot/shutdown hanging, can't access to vt9
[15:58] <seb128> it works before I hit reboot so the option is correctly active
[16:01] <ochosi> fwiw, we've had similar issues with light-locker in xuubntu
[16:01] <ochosi> xubuntu
[16:01] <ochosi> locking and suspending plus vt-switching doesn't work too well
[16:02] <ochosi> closing the lid seems more problematic on our side though
[17:26] <smallfoot-> Will Vivid get kernel 3.19, Wayland 1.7, Xserver 1.17?
[17:37] <Laney> dunno
[17:37] <didrocks> dunno
[17:37] <seb128> smallfoot-, do you plan to send patches?
[17:37] <smallfoot-> patched? just pull from git and compile
[17:37] <didrocks> "just" :p
[17:38] <smallfoot-> yeah, isnt there scripts for that?
[17:38] <didrocks> smallfoot-: maintaining components are a little bit more complex than that, otherwise, every distro would use the latest version of everything
[17:38] <smallfoot-> didrocks, no because they want to use old so they know they have tested it and it works
[17:39] <didrocks> or they can pull everything latest upstream and get everything failing to build and integrate
[17:39] <didrocks> if you want latest of everything and having the user figuring out why things don't align, they are distros for this
[17:39] <seb128> include bugs as well
[17:39] <didrocks> and it's ok, it's for some type of users


[08:13] <slashbel> good morning
[11:09] <ebel> Sorry for flaking on the IRC Meeting last night, was feeling wrecked
[11:09] <ebel> think i'm starting to get a cold
[15:58] <tdr112> np ebel , i forgot it was on too


[15:05] <didrocks> popey: I want to murder someone now :p
[15:05]  * popey cuddles didrocks
[15:05] <didrocks> if I heard that music once more…
[15:05] <didrocks> ahhhhhhhh
[15:06] <didrocks> ;)
[15:06] <popey> 4MB/min
[15:06]  * sil2100 is glad he doesn't run the music-app tests then
[15:06] <sil2100> ;)
[15:06] <ogra_> popey, logs ?
[15:06] <popey> ogra_: of?
[15:06] <ogra_> popey, clock ?
[15:07] <ogra_> dunno
[15:07] <popey> nothing worth seeing
[15:07] <ogra_> k
[15:07] <popey> where do events queue up?
[15:07] <popey> inside qmlscene?
[15:07] <popey> wonder if it goes down if I unlock the phone and let the events play out
[15:07] <ogra_> somewhere in Qt
[15:07] <ogra_> try it
[15:07] <ogra_> i bet it does
[15:08] <mhr3> unless it fragments the memory :)
[15:08] <sil2100> didrocks, cyphermox, Mirv: running ubuntu_clock_app o/
[15:09] <didrocks> sil2100: still suffering music…
[15:09] <popey> 134.6 MiB +   6.4 MiB = 140.9 MiB	qmlscene
[15:09] <popey> still climbing
[15:09] <plars> didrocks: you'll see we already have results coming in on the dashboard for many of the restarted tests: http://ci.ubuntu.com/smokeng/trusty/touch/mako/302:20140417:20140411.3/7782/
[15:10] <didrocks> plars: can you start by the one we didn't run?
[15:10] <didrocks> yet
[15:10] <Mirv> didrocks: yeah, device is ready and I've been running some AP:s already (without fails)
[15:10] <plars> didrocks: it's running those now
[15:10] <didrocks> so, I'm running dropping letter
[15:10] <didrocks> plars: hum
[15:10] <didrocks> plars: we did run some manually
[15:11] <didrocks> plars: to not delay the image, do you mind running some?
[15:11] <didrocks> the one we didn't run manually yet
[15:11] <didrocks> calendar_app now
[15:11] <plars> didrocks: I'm running some locally too, but I can't change the order part way though without stopping what I have in progress
[15:11] <plars> didrocks: I can see what I have so far, what are you looking for?
[15:11] <didrocks> plars: argh, ok, so let's not count on the dashboard
[15:12] <plars> didrocks: why?
[15:12] <didrocks> Mirv: mind running online-account-ui
[15:12] <plars> didrocks: I mean that I have what's running on the dashboard, but I also have local tests in progress
[15:12] <didrocks> plars: because we don't have the time to wait for all of them to sync
[15:12] <didrocks> plars: so we started manually
[15:12] <didrocks> continued*
[15:12] <plars> didrocks: online_accounts_ui already has results on the dashboard!
[15:12] <didrocks> and it would have been nice that you sync up with us to only run the ones we didn't finish yet
[15:12] <didrocks> ah great on that one :)
[15:12] <didrocks> Mirv: sudoku_app then?
[15:13] <plars> didrocks: and ubuntu_system_settings just finished
[15:13] <didrocks> yeah, we already got results on that one
[15:13] <Mirv> didrocks: running, and queued some others too
[15:14] <didrocks> Mirv: great, let's continue to sync up :)
[15:14] <didrocks> Mirv: so only sudoku_app for now for you
[15:14] <didrocks> I guess, one cyphermox and sil2100 finishes, we'll have then only ubuntu_calculator_app remaining
[15:15] <cyphermox> 70% flashing...
[15:15] <didrocks> cyphermox: ok, unsure you will finish before we are done then :)
[15:15] <didrocks> let us know when you start
[15:15] <cyphermox> aye
[15:16] <cyphermox> well, u-d-f says 8 minutes to the download finishing
[15:16] <didrocks> ah, then you flash
[15:16] <didrocks> so, ok, I think we'll be done before you
[15:17] <plars> didrocks: the toolkit tests are running now in ci
[15:18] <didrocks> plars: yeah, we already validated that one :/
[15:18] <plars> didrocks: I can stop the ones I have at home and run some others too if you like
[15:18] <popey> bug 1309065
[15:18] <didrocks> plars: I mean it's good for the long term, but not for the current issues to just validate the image :)
[15:18] <plars> didrocks: right, so I don't know which ones you still need. just let me know
[15:19] <didrocks> plars: terminal_app, shorts_app
[15:19] <didrocks> to start
[15:19] <sil2100> hmmmm
[15:19] <didrocks> hum, calendar_app fails
[15:19] <sil2100> clock_app failures here
[15:19]  * didrocks runs calculator
[15:19] <sil2100> FAILED (failures=5)
[15:19] <didrocks> will redo calendar after that
[15:20] <didrocks> sil2100: did you retry?
[15:20] <sil2100> Retrying now
[15:20] <didrocks> Mirv: sudoku done,
[15:20] <didrocks> ?
[15:20] <plars> didrocks: starting those at home now
[15:21] <asac> clock app AP test issues might explain our clock alarm rergression?
[15:21] <popey> didrocks: does your device have google accounts / calendar stuff?
[15:21] <ogra_> asac, ram usage piling up when screen is off ? i doubt that
[15:22] <nik90> popey: when do you know the memory leak? While in the alarms tab? Or just about anywhere?
[15:23] <nik90> s/know/notice
[15:23] <didrocks> popey: only g+
[15:24] <nik90> I just got a bug report from thomas strehl that clock app crashing while trying to edit alarms
[15:24] <popey> didrocks: ok
[15:24] <nik90> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1309057
[15:24] <popey> nik90: i left it on clock screen
[15:24] <didrocks> calculator pass
[15:24] <didrocks> relaunching calendar
[15:24] <didrocks> oh, I'm in French
[15:24] <didrocks> probably that
[15:24] <popey> nik90: lemme clarify on bug
[15:25] <sil2100> Holy shit
[15:26] <mhr3> sil2100, so we finished testing of 004, ready to land it, but still no response from mandel, what to do?
[15:26] <Mirv> didrocks: sudoku pass
[15:26] <plars> didrocks: terminal_app is good
[15:26] <sil2100> mhr3: we're busy with the release now anyway, not sure if we intend to build a new image today - let's wait a bit
[15:26] <sil2100> didrocks: I got again failures... this time 10!
[15:26] <sil2100> o_O
[15:26] <mhr3> sil2100, ok, thx
[15:28] <nik90> popey: can you revert clock-app to rev 394. The memory leak and the clock app crasher wasn't present until rev 393 for sure. Otherwise we would have noticed it immediately.
[15:28] <cyphermox> almost booting...
[15:29] <didrocks> Mirv: can you check clock app? ^
[15:29] <didrocks> plars: ok, weather app now? :)
[15:29] <popey> nik90: uh, i can revert to the previously publised version
[15:30] <nik90> popey: when was the last publish date?
[15:30] <plars> didrocks: I'll do that one as soon as shorts_app finishes
[15:30] <didrocks> plars: oh sorry, shorts is good
[15:30] <didrocks> weather is done
[15:30] <popey> 373 was the previously published version nik90
[15:30] <popey> nik90: might be easier to revert 395 in bzr, and push a new 396 and upload that
[15:30] <didrocks> camera_app wasn't done, right?
[15:30] <sil2100> Crap, now 13 failures
[15:30] <popey> s/easier/cleaner
[15:31] <sil2100> didrocks: I have no idea what's up with the clock app ;/
[15:31] <didrocks> sil2100: camera_app? ^
[15:31] <nik90> popey: ok I will do that.
[15:31] <sil2100> didrocks: I can proceed if necessary...
[15:31] <didrocks> popey: can you try clock app?
[15:31] <cyphermox> anyone done shorts yet?
[15:31] <didrocks> sil2100: please do camera_app meanwhile
[15:31] <popey> nik90: ping me when you need me to build a click, and ping fginther to force the app through jenkins.
[15:31] <sil2100> didrocks: should I go to camera_app? Ok
[15:31] <nik90> popey: ok
[15:31] <didrocks> cyphermox: plars is doing shorts
[15:31] <didrocks> cyphermox: can you try clock?
[15:31] <cyphermox> ok
[15:31] <sil2100> didrocks: wait, but we had results for camera_app already
[15:31] <popey> didrocks: sure, lemme test clock
[15:31] <sil2100> didrocks: from smoketesting?
[15:31] <didrocks> ah ok
[15:32] <didrocks> so, once we have shorts
[15:32] <plars> didrocks: shorts just finished, all pass, what's next?
[15:32] <didrocks> we have 2 issues
[15:32] <didrocks> clock
[15:32] <didrocks> and calendar_app
[15:32] <didrocks> plars: can you try clock as well?
[15:32] <didrocks> calendar_app, I'm in French
[15:32] <didrocks> cyphermox: mind trying? ^
[15:32] <plars> on it
[15:32] <didrocks> (in english)
[15:32] <didrocks> meanwhile, I'm reverting to english
[15:33] <cyphermox> trying what exactly?
[15:33] <didrocks> sil2100: maybe try as well? ^
[15:33] <cyphermox> clock in french?
[15:33] <didrocks> cyphermox: calendar_app in english
[15:33] <elopio> ping doanac, I think the jenkins in <IP_ADDRESS> is not using the latest autopilot version.
[15:33] <elopio> can you check please?
[15:33] <sil2100> hmmm
[15:33] <sil2100> didrocks: right
[15:33] <sil2100> Let me try that
[15:33] <sil2100> But wait
[15:34] <sil2100> I'm on english anyway I think, so clock anyway fails I think
[15:34] <sil2100> didrocks: should I try calendar in english?
[15:34] <didrocks> sil2100: yeah, possible it's something else
[15:34] <didrocks> sil2100: but yeah, calendar in english
[15:34] <didrocks> I hope it's failing because I was in French
[15:34] <popey> those apps passed yesterday when i uploaded them to the store
[15:34] <popey> (in english)
[15:34] <doanac> elopio: ack.
[15:34] <popey> fwiw
[15:34] <didrocks> popey: clock is weird… I don't see anything that can impact it that entered
[15:35] <popey> just rebooting to run it here
[15:35] <didrocks> popey: I trust your environment :)
[15:35]  * popey looks around at his environment
[15:35] <nik90> popey: btw the clock app tests will now fail since rev 393 will check for alarm status which was broken today
[15:35] <didrocks> popey: I'm sure it's the UK humidity!
[15:36] <didrocks> sil2100: just by any luck, did you set your timezone to something else than UTC?
[15:36] <popey> nik90: ok, we need passing tests, balloons can help?
[15:36] <davmor2> didrocks: mine is BST
[15:37] <davmor2> didrocks: what's up
[15:37] <didrocks> davmor2: BS Timezone? :p
[15:37] <popey> didrocks: http://imgur.com/E2Gzh0O my environment - including inspirational photo of jono bacon
[15:37] <didrocks> davmor2: we have clock and calendar AP tests failing
[15:37] <didrocks> popey: ahah! I like the inspirational photo in particular :p
[15:37] <didrocks> but I wouldn't have use that word
[15:37] <popey> ☻
[15:37] <popey> haha
[15:37] <didrocks> no offense jono :p
[15:39] <sil2100> didrocks: no, it's all default :|
[15:39] <sil2100> hmmm
[15:39] <sil2100> didrocks: but from the failures I see that hm, there seem to be some DBus issues there
[15:39] <sil2100> org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply
[15:40] <sil2100> So it can't find some views simply
[15:40] <sil2100> Looked like flakyness to me, as I had an increasing number of test failures
[15:40] <sil2100> Maybe I needed a reboot ;/
[15:40] <didrocks> yeah, can be
[15:41] <Mirv> didrocks: I had my queue running. calculator, terminal, shorts all pass. shall I move it to clock now? (it's currently running calendar)
[15:42] <didrocks> Mirv: yeah, calendar and clocks are the unknown remaining ones
[15:42] <Mirv> oh, maybe I'll let that calendar run to completion then
[15:42] <didrocks> Mirv: thanks!
[15:42] <popey> clock still running here.
[15:42] <didrocks> calendar still rerererunning
[15:43] <cyphermox> do I need to do something special to run the tests? I have 18 failures right now :/
[15:44] <didrocks> cyphermox: for click apps, see the wiki page for the setup
[15:44] <didrocks> Ran 18 tests in 495.503s
[15:44] <didrocks> FAILED (failures=7)
[15:44] <didrocks> again
[15:44] <cyphermox> I did
[15:44] <didrocks> cyphermox: on which one?
[15:44] <cyphermox> calendar
[15:44] <didrocks> clock or calendar?
[15:44] <plars> didrocks: I had 4 errors and 20 passes on a local run of clock
[15:45] <popey> Ran 20 tests in 523.686s
[15:45] <popey> FAILED (failures=5)
[15:45]  * didrocks don't get it
[15:45] <didrocks> so we all have failures
[15:45] <ogra_> try to roll back autopilot ?
[15:45] <plars> didrocks: and there was a qmlscene crash with it too
[15:45] <didrocks> ogra_: no, it's a dependency which is added
[15:46] <ogra_> didrocks, i know, i worked the whole night on it
[15:46] <ogra_> didrocks, but its also a rebuild of the package ... if deps changed etc ...
[15:46] <didrocks> ogra_: python?
[15:46] <ogra_> i was voting for a seed change instead ...
[15:46] <didrocks> where is sergio?
[15:46] <ogra_> off i think
[15:46] <didrocks> I wonder if the bzr branch revno changed
[15:46] <didrocks> with new commits
[15:48] <fginther> elopio, doanac, it's indeed using an older version. I'll update
[15:48] <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7268887/
[15:48] <popey> thats the log of my clock run
[15:48] <elopio> thanks fginther.
[15:48] <didrocks> popey: we don't have the rev of the bzr branch
[15:48] <ogra_> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/autopilot/1.4+14.04.20140416-0ubuntu1
[15:49] <ogra_> didrocks, see the second diff :/
[15:49] <popey> oh.
[15:49] <didrocks> popey: there are some errors
[15:49] <Mirv> didrocks: calendar pass for me
[15:49] <didrocks> ogra_: urgh?
[15:49] <didrocks> Mirv: phew!
[15:49] <didrocks> Mirv: can you try clock?
[15:50] <didrocks> Mirv: seems your machine is magic :)
[15:50] <ogra_> didrocks, not sure what it means if LP shows two
[15:50] <didrocks> ogra_: not
[15:50] <didrocks> ogra_: no
[15:50] <didrocks> it's the first one
[15:50] <didrocks> the real one
[15:50] <ogra_> the older revision seems quite old actually
[15:50] <didrocks> phew
[15:50] <ogra_> why is it generating two ?
[15:50] <didrocks> yeah
[15:50] <sil2100> didrocks: all tests for calendar pass!
[15:50] <didrocks> ogra_: no idea TBH, maybe an old version staying the in the silo?
[15:50] <didrocks> sil2100: \o/
[15:50] <didrocks> ok
[15:50] <Mirv> didrocks: yeah, nothing weird in there http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7268898/ . running clock now.
[15:50] <didrocks> so my phone is screwed
[15:50]  * didrocks opens the window
[15:51] <ogra_> testing GPS in motion ?
[15:51] <didrocks> will transform it to an ogra's phone :p
[15:51] <sil2100> popey: I got the same number of failures on first run of clock app...
[15:51] <didrocks> ogra_: ahah
[15:51] <ogra_> :)
[15:51] <didrocks> popey: I see some failures on your pastebin yesterday
[15:51] <didrocks> still don't understand why 301 passed
[15:53] <nik90> ogra_, popey: Guys the test is failing due to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1309057
[15:53] <nik90> didrocks: ^^
[15:53] <ogra_> aha
[15:53] <didrocks> nik90: hum, but why was it passing on 301?
[15:53] <nik90> ogra_: I have no idea what is causing the crash
[15:54] <didrocks> nik90: the image diff is oxide + unity-mir + webbrowser-app
[15:54] <didrocks> nothing else
[15:54] <nik90> didrocks: erm
[15:55] <didrocks> nik90: but you're right, I'm seeing this QML Scene crash
[15:55] <didrocks> still don't know what the magic which triggers it now is
[15:55] <nik90> didrocks: I can confirm it locally on my system. It seems to crash when accessing the alarm status
[15:55] <davmor2> nik90: oh that's weird if you click on the name of the alarm instead of the time of the alarm the time is blank
[15:55] <didrocks> it's really random
[15:56] <didrocks> nik90: for instance:
[15:56] <didrocks> Ran 20 tests in 554.815s
[15:56]  * balloons tries to keep up
[15:56] <didrocks> FAILED (failures=2)
[15:56] <didrocks> only 2 issues
[15:56] <didrocks> crashes
[15:57] <nik90> davmor2: when I click on an alarm (on the label or time), It crashes...Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[15:58] <nik90> davmor2: and I have tried this with older versions of the clock as well..same result
[15:58] <didrocks> ok
[15:58] <didrocks> seems something to release note
[15:58] <didrocks> but not block on it
[15:59] <didrocks> (as alarm are more or less already useless due to the Qt issue)
[15:59] <didrocks> sounds sane?
[15:59] <popey> +1
[16:00] <ogra_> and apps can be updated independently
[16:00] <popey> and bizarrely my phone is now alarming me that we have a meeting
[16:00] <ogra_> oh, this meeting notification always gives me a heart attack
[16:00]  * ogra_ wants adjustable sounds for that !
[16:01] <didrocks> heh
[16:01] <didrocks> ogra_: but you are still late!
[16:01] <didrocks> :p
[16:01] <sil2100> ARGH
[16:01] <nik90> didrocks: +
[16:01] <sil2100> Meeting!
[16:01] <ogra_> didrocks, yeah, not used to having to have meetings on a release day
[16:01] <didrocks> nik90: let's do that then!
[16:01] <didrocks> cyphermox: coming?
[16:02] <asac> didrocks: i think you are correct
[16:02] <asac> release note, and go
[16:02] <didrocks> oki!
[16:03] <ogra_> indeed
[16:03] <ogra_> what else would you do ?
[16:03] <ogra_> not release ?
[16:03] <ogra_> :P
[16:03] <asac> we can relase the image 2 days ago :)
[16:03] <asac> didrocks: will you work with stgraber ?
[16:03] <ogra_> that half breeded crap ? nah
[16:03] <ogra_> :)
[16:04] <ogra_> asac, we'll manage, dont worry
[16:04] <asac> i dont get though why we got a regression on clock in last two/three landings
[16:04] <asac> ok goodie
[16:04] <ogra_> asac, not only clock
[16:04] <ogra_> calendar seems to be flaky too
[16:04] <asac> ogra_: and those are new?
[16:04] <ogra_> seemingly
[16:04] <asac> what changed?
[16:05] <asac> note: dont think it has an impact on wehtehr to release or not
[16:05] <ogra_> we didnt have that many errors on the dashboard for any of the recent images
[16:05] <ogra_> asac, well, i would blame AP :)
[16:05] <ogra_> its the only thing that could explain it
[16:05] <asac> i am sure its evdev
[16:06] <asac> evdev also breaks runtime behavioru :)
[16:06] <asac> i am sure
[16:06] <ogra_> well, nothing broken here
[16:07] <ogra_> during simple usage
[16:07] <asac> i thought that the clock and calendar app is even more odd now
[16:07] <asac> not only event
[16:07] <asac> but completely weird behaviour
[16:07] <ogra_> yeah
[16:07] <asac> so thats what regressed in last 2 days
[16:07] <ogra_> but both are apps
[16:07] <asac> or last day even
[16:07] <ogra_> they can be updated in the store
[16:07] <asac> but the apps didnt change
[16:07] <asac> so we broke them
[16:07] <asac> with evdev
[16:07] <asac> or mir
[16:07] <asac> or unity
[16:07] <ogra_> as long as we dont discover serious systemic issues we're fine
[16:08] <ogra_> we had evdev for ages
[16:08] <Mirv> didrocks: clock-app one failure http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7268990/
[16:08] <ogra_> asac, even 300 tested with evdev
[16:08] <Mirv> if that was the last one, I'll let it rerun
[16:16] <sil2100> Happy release daaay \o/
[16:16] <didrocks> Mirv: we are good it seems :)
[16:16] <davmor2> shortest metting EVA!
[16:16] <didrocks> Mirv: we are going to promote to stable
[16:16]  * sil2100 is dancin'
[16:17] <didrocks> happy release!
[16:17] <popey> didrocks: we need to have a more public discussion / announce of how the next set of images will work
[16:17] <popey> IMO
[16:17] <Mirv> didrocks: \o/ !!
[16:17] <didrocks> cjwatson: all is good on our side, ogra_ is going to promote to the devel channel and work with stgraber to put it in the stable one
[16:17] <popey> because people will want to know "why am i getting no updates"
[16:17] <didrocks> popey: more than agreed
[16:17] <Mirv> happy release, everyone
[16:17] <didrocks> popey: and I'm with you on that one ;)
[16:17] <didrocks> popey: but let's see next week
[16:23] <asac> didrocks: can we send a mail like last time that landing team will resume operation on tuesday?
[16:23] <asac> but adjourns until then as the archive needs bootstrapping etc.?
[16:23] <didrocks> asac: already in my daily email draft :p
[16:23] <didrocks> ah, yeah, good idea
[16:23] <asac> ok, i think it would justify keeping it a separate mail
[16:24] <didrocks> for adjourning
[16:24] <didrocks> asac: people will want to merge to their trunk
[16:24] <asac> just short
[16:24] <didrocks> asac: we'll accept SRU
[16:24] <ogra_> asac, didnt you say you are pessimistic ?
[16:24] <didrocks> asac: I'll just tell we'll start working with upstream on SRUs on tuedsay
[16:24] <asac> right
[16:24] <ogra_> asac, "the archive open on tuesday" definitely is very optimistic
[16:25] <asac> tell them that landing team recedes foor eastern vacation and will be back operational helping on SRUs and starting to ramp up on normal landing business on tuesday
[16:25] <asac> and thank everyone for the amazing release
[16:25] <didrocks> asac: the thanks was already in the other email, but I can always thank twice!
[16:25] <asac> didrocks: yeah, you can state that depending on how archive bootstrapping goes we might start doing that earliest on tuesday
[16:25] <asac> sure thanks
[16:25] <asac> twice :)
[16:29] <didrocks> second email -> loaded :p
[16:29] <didrocks> g+ -> prepared
[16:30]  * didrocks is going to be a spam machine
[16:30] <ogra_> yay, spam us !
[16:30] <didrocks> ogra_: is it done yet? dad dad dad ;)
[16:30]  * ogra_ hands didrocks a lollipop
[16:31] <ogra_> soon kid soon
[16:31] <didrocks> \o/
[16:34] <sil2100> ;p
[16:37] <robru> sil2100, didrocks so what's the plan for silo 4? marked testing pass, what should I do, just publish that and let it sit in UNAPPROVED until U opens?
[16:37] <dbarth> thank you landing and release teams for taking care of our projects !! :)
[16:37] <robru> dbarth, you're welcome!
[16:37] <didrocks> robru: is it a feature?
[16:37] <didrocks> yw dbarth :)
[16:38] <robru> didrocks, fix a crasher bug (line 21 in spreadsheet)
[16:38]  * ogra_ isnt sure yuo can let it "sit in unapproved"
[16:38] <ogra_> the changelog will target the wrong distro
[16:38] <didrocks> robru: that's ok for today to publish, it will go to -updates
[16:38] <didrocks> as a 0-day SRU
[16:38] <ogra_> (to have to go to U)
[16:38] <ogra_> yeah, will work as 0 day
[16:38] <didrocks> all others will need to follow the SRU process
[16:39] <robru> didrocks, can somebody explain to me the concept of the 0-day SRU? do I just have to mark the bug to look like an SRU or does it really need full SRU team acking?
[16:39] <davmor2> nik90: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1309103 initial bug report I've added that from your initial digging it looks like it is a lower level than the clock app
[16:39] <didrocks> robru: no, you don't need to, it's like "it was too late, delivered before the release and it's in -updates"
[16:40] <didrocks> robru: so that people dist-upgrading to trusty just get it
[16:40] <nik90> davmor2: thnx..but I reported it already at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1309041
[16:41] <robru> didrocks, yeah, I get that people will update to it after the release, just wondering how much of the full SRU process is necessary to get this published from silo into trusty-updates
[16:41] <davmor2> nik90: oh nice
[16:41] <didrocks> robru: until the release is done (for one line fix like that), I would say nothing
[16:41] <didrocks> robru: just after, I would say… whole process
[16:41] <robru> ok
[16:42] <ogra_> they should just get it into U and it will show up in the next devel image
[16:42] <ogra_> :P
[16:42] <ogra_> who runs stable anyway
[16:42] <didrocks> ;)
[16:42] <ogra_> (except press people for making reviews)
[16:43] <robru> mhr3, ok I published silo 4, I guess that will find it's way into trusty-updates eventually
[16:43] <robru> didrocks, so how much do i have to pester the release team to get that through? will they just know and accept it?
[16:44] <didrocks> robru: I think don't bother them with it
[16:44] <robru> ok...
[16:44] <didrocks> doesn't seem that important and don't affect desktop
[16:44] <didrocks> and on touch, people will only get it with a new image build
[16:44] <robru> didrocks, but if I don't pester them, how will it get into -updates?
[16:45] <didrocks> robru: well, they are looking at the queue regularly (especially when they will open -updates)
[16:45] <robru> ok
[16:45] <didrocks> robru: if you don't see it accepted in 6 hours, maybe ping the available ones
[16:45] <robru> ok
[16:45] <didrocks> you can always fallback to Laney anyway, if he doesn't have a beer in one hand :p
[16:45] <robru> didrocks, thanks. this is sure a strange transition we are in
[16:45] <didrocks> robru: yeah, it's always special ;)
[16:46] <didrocks> robru: and I don't testify everything I'm saying is 100% accurate ;)
[16:46] <didrocks> just my interpretation ;)
[16:48] <davmor2> popey, dbarth: is there a bug for youtube videos not opening, I know it's known but I'm just after a bug number for the chart
[16:48] <popey> pass
[16:48] <popey> i dont have one
[16:59] <ogra_> davmor2, heh, i was assuming teher is one
[16:59] <ogra_> but apparently there isnt
[17:00] <dbarth> there is one but mostly on desktop,for flashplayer
[17:00] <dbarth> davmor2: point to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/oxide/+bug/1303997
[17:01] <mhr3> robru, despite the conflict?
[17:01] <davmor2> dbarth: thanks
[17:01] <robru> mhr3, which conflict?
[17:01] <mhr3> robru, > OTHER SILO ALSO HAS unity-scope-click, proceed with caution!
[17:02] <robru> mhr3, it just means that silo 11 will need to be rebuilt after this silo lands, but before it can be published.
[17:02] <mhr3> robru, indeed, can you add a comment about that to 011?
[17:02] <robru> mhr3, yep, just did
[17:02] <mhr3> robru, ok, thx
[17:13] <davmor2> nik90: http://davmor2.co.uk/~davmor2/screenshots-phone/device-2014-04-17-181235.png
[17:19] <boiko> robru: landing-006 ready to go
[17:20] <robru> boiko, published!
[17:20] <ogra_> poor thing ...
[17:21] <ogra_> published into jail
[17:25] <asac> jail?
[17:25] <asac> is that a new mechanism?
[17:25] <asac> we have silo and jail :)
[17:25] <asac> maybe we could use the same for both :P
[17:25] <boiko> robru: nice, thanks!
[17:26] <robru> asac, jail was always there, it just had a nicer name before the release freeze...
[17:26] <robru> boiko, you're welcome
[17:27] <ogra_> asac, we have a jail ... there is a sign saying "Unapproved" at the door ;)
[17:28] <asac> i like the idea
[17:28] <asac> we might want to take that and work that into our train concept :)
[17:28] <asac> ogra_: what is jail? upload queue waiting area?
[17:29] <ogra_> asac, my word for unapproved after release :)
[17:29] <boiko> robru: this unapproved queue, does it require any action on my side?
[17:29] <asac> so similar to new queu
[17:29] <ogra_> i was referring to the unapproved queue
[17:29] <robru> boiko, hmmmm.... no. basically we just have to wait for the extremely overworked release team to notice and approve the upload, just takes some time.
[17:29] <didrocks> +1 on the jail idea
[17:29] <ogra_> lol
[17:30]  * ogra_ likes how his jokes turn into reality
[17:30] <asac> didrocks: maybe we should rebrand CI Airline to CI Alcatraz :)
[17:30] <asac> j.k.
[17:30] <didrocks> asac: where are the sharks then? ;)
[17:30] <didrocks> or rather "who"?
[17:30] <asac> we have plenty of those, dont we?
[17:30] <didrocks> easy answer :p
[17:30] <ogra_> didrocks, just go to #ubuntu-release-party ... we store them there today
[17:30] <didrocks> ahah
[17:31] <asac> haha
[17:31] <boiko> robru: ok, good :)
[17:31] <asac> ogra_: how many are in there?
[17:31] <ogra_> 513
[17:31] <asac> hmm
[17:31] <asac> ok
[17:31] <ogra_> it bumped to 560 or so inbetween
[17:31] <ogra_> thats pretty ok
[17:31] <asac> what was our record?
[17:31] <asac> 1400?
[17:31] <asac> in 08 09?
[17:31] <ogra_> nah, below 1000
[17:31] <asac> sure?
[17:32] <ogra_> 980 or something
[17:32] <asac> i am quite sure we had a thousand at least
[17:32] <ogra_> popey, might remember
[17:32] <ogra_> wow
[17:32] <ogra_> we have nearly 2000 in #ubuntu today
[17:33] <asac> are there some alltime stats for freenode channels somewhere?
[17:33] <asac> i am sure that must exist
[17:34] <ogra_> if someone has them its AlanBell i guess
[17:34] <ogra_> he has bots everywhere
[17:34] <popey> pass
[17:34] <ogra_> ha
[17:36] <ogra_> bah !
[17:36] <ogra_> https://twitter.com/MarkABaker/status/456839297878863872
[17:36] <ogra_> i want such a cupcake !
[17:37] <asac> very good
[17:37] <asac> ogra_: make a photo reply, post how your desk is prepared-by release
[17:37] <asac> :)
[17:37] <ogra_> ugh, no !
[17:38] <ogra_> nobody wants to see that
[17:38] <asac> hehe
[17:38] <asac> well, you can see a place where hard work was done
[17:38] <asac> so might be cool :)
[17:59] <davmor2> asac: ogra's isn't the only desk nobody need to see
[18:00] <ogra_> haha
[18:06] <davmor2> ogra_: I have a smattering of desktops, laptops, tablets, phones notes, books and DVD-RW scattered liberally :D
[18:12] <didrocks> sounds we're all good! have a nice week-end for those being on easter holidays!
[18:13] <didrocks> nice work again, see you ;)
[18:13] <asac> didrocks: bye! get rest
[18:13] <sil2100> o/
[18:14]  * sil2100 still has some code to write
[18:18] <dobey> so say we all
[18:19] <asac> have fun with the release everyone and see you next week!
[18:22] <Mirv> see you! :)
[19:16] <bfiller> robru: can I have a silo for line 22 please?
[19:16] <robru> bfiller, ok, you got silo 1
[19:17] <bfiller> robru: thanks
[19:17] <robru> bfiller, you're welcome! happy release-ter!
[19:17] <robru> releaster ;-)
[19:17] <bfiller> robru: same to you :)
[19:52] <pmcgowan> releaster very good
[19:55] <ChickenCutlass> lol
[19:55] <ChickenCutlass> releaster
[19:55] <pmcgowan> wish I thought of it
[20:02] <bfiller> robru: silo1 ready to be published
[20:09] <robru> pmcgowan, ChickenCutlass ... yeah, we've been releasing in april for 10 years, how did nobody ever think of releaster before?
[20:09] <ChickenCutlass> robru: its fantastic
[20:09] <robru> bfiller, published
[20:09] <robru> ChickenCutlass, thanks
[20:11] <robru> I guess easter is at a slightly different time each year, so it wouldn't always be so close.
[20:11] <robru> I bet somebody thought of releaster in 2003 though...
[20:12] <robru> (because easter was april 20th then)
[20:13] <bfiller> robru: cheers
[20:31] <ToyKeeper> ... 2003?  Isn't that a year too soon?
[20:37] <robru> ToyKeeper, maybe ;-)
[20:37] <robru> ToyKeeper, realized it shortly after saying it
[20:37] <robru> ToyKeeper, 2006 then. easter was just a few days off release then
[20:39] <ToyKeeper> But I think this is the first year that we get to have our post-release coma during the time from Good Friday to Easter Sunday.
[20:40] <ToyKeeper> I don't know about anyone else, but I plan on sleeping for a few days.  I'll wake up when those tasty little cream eggs go on sale; time to stock up.  :)
[20:41] <Laney> 6.04 was delayed to 6.06
[20:41] <Laney> :P
[20:43] <ToyKeeper> TBH, the first time I actually installed Ubuntu was in 2008.  Before then I had all Debian boxes running testing or unstable on a "update when I feel like it" schedule.  One install lasted from 1997 to 2008.
[20:44] <ToyKeeper> (er, installed for my own use anyway...  I happily set it up for other people though)
[21:34] <jhodapp> robru: can you rebuild mediaplayer-app in silo 17, from a new MP push?


[01:02] <AlexLatchford> asac: I don't know if you are aware of the Firefox Plugin 'Firebug', it is basically the DOM Inspector on steroids, you should check it out see if it is a good replacement for -dom-inspector
[03:47] <gnomefreak> no god no it has caused alot of issues in past
[04:08] <caravel> hi gents.
[04:08] <gnomefreak> hi
[04:09] <caravel> is there any way to get the address books outside of thunderbird profile, beside using symlinks or extra extensions that would duplicate the mab files at every app launch ?
[04:10] <caravel> (searched hard before to come here !)
[04:10] <gnomefreak> caravel: i dont think so but its late here for me atleast. ask in morning :)
[04:11] <gnomefreak> caravel: asac might know off hand but he wont be here for 4+ more hours
[04:11] <caravel> oky :) tried various user_prefs as well, but the location seems hardcoded, what a pity... have a good sleep gnomefreak !
[04:11] <gnomefreak> ty
[04:22] <Admiral_Chicago> gnomefreak: i haven't started a wiki page for it
[04:22] <Admiral_Chicago> asac: i will have the fix to the clue files committed tomorrow
[09:41] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: ok good
[09:51] <asac> hjmf_: < dholbach> asac: new CC meeting announced (June 26th, 13-15 UTC)
[09:51] <asac> so ... next tuesday ;)
[10:18] <asac> Bug 121467 ... is really strange
[10:18] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121467 in firefox "unable to acces to a specific url with any navigator." [Low,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121467
[10:39] <asac> cool solution for bug 23369 maybe foujnd
[10:39] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 23369 in firefox "firefox(-gnome-support) should get proxy from gconf" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/23369
[11:37] <hjmf> morning
[11:37] <hjmf> asac: thanks, 26 Jun!
[11:38] <hjmf> will you be there? :D
[11:38] <asac> hjmf: yeah
[11:39] <hjmf> cool :)
[11:39] <asac> hjmf: at best remember me the day ... but since I am here that day, I should be able to provide backup :)
[11:39] <zacha> how do I create a shortcut to load firefox and a custom profile? firefox -P default doesn't work...
[11:39] <hjmf> asac: k
[11:39] <asac> zacha: what is a custom profile?
[11:39] <asac> zacha: some arbitrary folder ... or a named profile?
[11:40] <asac> zacha: firefox -ProfileManager ... can you choose your profile?
[11:40] <zacha> just a firefox profle... the ones you see when you run firefox -profilemanager
[11:41] <asac> for me firefox -P default works
[11:41] <asac> what happens for you?
[11:42] <zacha> oops
[11:42] <zacha> thanks
[11:42] <hjmf> zacha: is this what do you want
[11:42] <hjmf> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/usr/lib/firefox:/usr/lib/firefox/plugins:/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins"
[11:42] <hjmf> /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -profile /media/hda1/Documents\ and\ Settings/hjmf/Configuraci?n\ local/Datos\ de\ programa/Mozilla/Firefox/Profiles/wuxs857s.default
[11:43] <zacha> My profile name had a space in it
[11:43] <zacha> and then firefox -P "profile name" works
[11:44] <zacha> maybe I was using a lowercase p... thanks anyway
[11:44] <asac> zacha: naturally ;)
[11:44] <zacha> yep
[11:44] <asac> np
[11:45] <asac> hjmf: do you have kde installed?
[11:46] <hjmf> asac: no
[11:48] <asac> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=384304 ... is that patch against ffox 2.0 source?
[11:48] <asac> hjmf: ?
[11:48] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 384304 in Startup and Profile System "/usr/bin/firefox is not able to handle symlinks due error in the script" [Major,New]
[11:48] <asac> (currently dropping in patches dir) :)
[11:49] <hjmf> asac: is against MOZILLA_1_8_BRANCH so I guess it is :)
[11:50] <hjmf> asac: do you want to hear a *German* radio for about half an hour to reproduce a crash? bug 121685
[11:50] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121685 in firefox "firefox crashed" [Medium,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121685
[11:50] <hjmf> :)
[11:51] <hjmf> I don't understand a word :-P
[11:51] <asac> hehe
[11:51] <asac> :)
[11:51] <asac> i hate german radio
[11:51] <hjmf> lol
[11:51] <asac> if i would tune in I would have to pay radio tay
[11:51] <asac> tax
[11:52] <asac> so i stay away from anything remotely associated with german radio/tv
[11:52] <asac> :)
[11:52] <hjmf> radio tax? OMG!
[11:52] <asac> to be honest ... legally i have to pay radio tax *now* because i have a computer with internet access
[11:52] <hjmf> ...and I was ranting on the cds tax
[11:52] <asac> yeah
[11:53] <hjmf> thanks god the things here in spain are less strict on that issue :)
[11:53] <asac> its crazy ... in germany you have to pay kind of tax if you have a computer because these god damn radios stream there program
[11:53] <asac> hell ... just don't do it
[11:53] <asac> or encrypt it ... or whatever
[11:54] <hjmf> I don't know english words to say what I'm thinking of it :-P
[11:54] <asac> ;)
[11:54] <asac> yeah
[11:54] <asac> it just sucks ... and is completely irrational
[11:54] <hjmf> agree
[11:55] <asac> how much was a flat in valencia ;)
[11:55] <hjmf> expensive
[11:56] <hjmf> in euros... let me think, I still thinking in old pesetas
[11:56] <hjmf> about 48000?
[11:57] <hjmf> better pay the radio tax ;)
[11:57] <asac> what do you get for that?
[11:57] <hjmf> an 80 square meter flat in a not bad zone
[11:57] <asac> thats pretty cheap actually
[11:58] <hjmf> for a german maybe, not for a spanish
[11:58] <hjmf> imho
[11:58] <asac> in hamburg you pay 150k+ for that ... in berlin it might be from 80k
[11:58] <hjmf> the normal salary for a graduate is less than 1000?/month
[11:59] <asac> graduate?
[11:59] <asac> you mean finished university?
[11:59] <hjmf> yes
[11:59] <hjmf> I have two grades
[11:59] <asac> interesting
[11:59] <hjmf> none on IT
[11:59] <asac> i was pretty impressed in sevilla
[11:59] <hjmf> though
[11:59] <asac> how expensive things like food are
[11:59] <asac> ... but still people buy a lot
[11:59] <hjmf> really?
[12:00] <hjmf> expensive in bars or supermarkets
[12:00] <asac> i didn't have the feeling that people have a lack of mony there
[12:00] <asac> supermarkets
[12:00] <asac> the only thing that is cheaper in spain is gasoline
[12:00] <asac> and cigarettes
[12:00] <asac> (which i like) :)
[12:00] <hjmf> maybe :)
[12:00] <hjmf> here is no sense of lack of money
[12:00] <asac> everything else appeared to be more expensive ... or at least same price
[12:01] <hjmf> the problem is that no one can save an euro :)
[12:01] <asac> yeah ... but thats good for the economy ;)
[12:01] <asac> i think germans are the ones saving most (about 10% of income average)
[12:01] <asac> which are zillions of euro each yearh that don't stay in economy
[12:01] <hjmf> yes tha national economy not the personal one :)
[12:01] <asac> americans have a save-rate of -1% :)
[12:02] <hjmf> maybe the same here
[12:02] <asac> english people have 3% saving rate
[12:02] <hjmf> they say more of the 80% goes to the house payment
[12:02] <asac> funny thing is that policitician still call for "saving" more ... to finance your pension
[12:02] <hjmf> yeah
[12:03] <hjmf> 80% just for paying a house IMHO is crazy
[12:03] <asac> yeah thats true
[12:03] <asac> but people in london probably pay about the same percentage :)
[12:03] <hjmf> probably
[12:03] <asac> rents are really crazy ;)
[12:04] <hjmf> here there's little rent market
[12:04] <asac> so i valencia a bit like sevilla (from how the city looks and feels)?
[12:04] <hjmf> and that's maybe the cause of the expensiveness of the house
[12:04] <hjmf> s
[12:05] <hjmf> never been in sevilla
[12:05] <asac> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:ValenciaSt.jpg
[12:05] <hjmf> valencia is more modern because of the recent investments
[12:05] <asac> sevilla was astonishing beautiful
[12:05] <hjmf> you know america's cup
[12:05] <asac> yeah ... its soon right?
[12:06] <hjmf> F1 next year in a new urban circuit
[12:06] <hjmf> next month
[12:06] <hjmf> but probably sevilla is prettiest
[12:07] <asac> yeah ... i just need as much beauty as i can consume :)
[12:07] <hjmf> :)
[12:07] <asac> sevilla is probably far tooo hot in summer
[12:07] <asac> and no direct sea ;)
[12:07] <hjmf> valencia is hot all the year
[12:07] <hjmf> I like cold :(
[12:08] <hjmf> probably now it is around 30C
[12:08] <hjmf> though we are in summer since yesterday
[12:08] <hjmf> so it's ok ;)
[12:08] <hjmf> sevilla is hotter
[12:09] <asac> i love 30 degree ;)
[12:09] <hjmf> 40C in summer
[12:09] <asac> sevilla gets often 45C :)
[12:09] <asac> yeah
[12:09] <hjmf> yea
[12:09] <asac> at least thats what the guide told us
[12:09] <asac> ... and thats far beyond what i can stand i guess
[12:09] <asac> at least if there is no water where i can just jump in
[12:09] <hjmf> sevilla is for night living
[12:09] <hjmf> boiling watter...
[12:12] <asac> i have a patch http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/lp23369-dont-use-gconf-system-prefs-if-not-gnome.patch
[12:13] <asac> for bug 23369
[12:13] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 23369 in firefox "firefox(-gnome-support) should get proxy from gconf" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/23369
[12:13] <asac> the idea is to set config.use_system_prefs to true
[12:13] <asac> and then hope that this patch just enables gconf settings if you are really in a gnome session
[12:14] <asac> only in gnome session i mean
[12:14] <asac> otherwise people will be trapped in their non-existing gconf settings and won't be able to configure proxy manually anymore :/
[12:14] <asac> ... which is why i asked if you have kde ... or something that is not gnome :)
[12:16] <hjmf> no sorry since I'm in ubuntu I just have gnome
[12:16] <hjmf> Admiral_Chicago uses kubuntu I believe
[12:17] <asac> by H. Montoliu<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:18] <asac> what should i use in credits?
[12:18] <asac> that email?
[12:18] <hjmf> better gmail.com
[12:18] <asac> ok
[12:18] <hjmf> asac: cool :)
[12:18] <asac> your bugzilla account is telefonica.net though
[12:18] <hjmf> yes, I used that because of the ISP
[12:18] <asac> You prefer Hilario ... or just H. ?
[12:18] <hjmf> just H is ok
[12:18] <hjmf> H.
[12:19] <hjmf> hold on
[12:19] <hjmf> asac:
[12:19] <asac> hmmm i like the name Hilario Montoliu
[12:19] <hjmf> is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:19] <asac> k
[12:19] <hjmf> then leave it as Hilario Montoliu :)
[12:19] <hjmf> asac: ^
[12:19] <asac> its like an artist name ... i mean it rimes ;)
[12:20] <hjmf> lol
[12:20] <asac> your mother/father must have been a poet or artist
[12:20] <hjmf> My father's name is Hilario, my grand father too, and so on...
[12:21] <asac> ah ... you have another first name?
[12:21] <asac> * debian/patches/bz384304_lp117575_linkrecursion_fix_in_startscript.patch, debian/patches/series: patch to fix symlink handling of startup-script (LP:  #117575) - by H. Montoliu<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:21] <asac> ups
[12:21] <asac>   * debian/patches/bz384304_lp117575_linkrecursion_fix_in_startscript.patch,
[12:21] <asac>     debian/patches/series: patch to fix symlink handling of startup-script (LP:
[12:21] <hjmf> my full name is Hilario Jesus Montoliu Ferrera
[12:21] <asac>     #117575) - by Hilario Montoliu<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:21] <asac> :)
[12:21] <hjmf> but Hilario Montoliu would be enough
[12:21] <asac> thats cool
[12:21] <hjmf> asac: cool ty
[12:26] <asac> i hope i can punch that patch through review soon :) ... apparently benjamin dropped the ball on it ... but lets see what i can do
[12:29] <hjmf> sure that a lot :)
[12:33] <azazel> hi all!
[12:35] <azazel> anyonei s aware of a gran paradiso package for ubuntu/debian?
[12:39] <asac> yeah
[12:39] <asac> in !moztest ?
[12:39] <asac> !moztest
[12:39] <asac> hmm
[12:40] <azazel> what the "!" means?
[12:40] <ubotu> The Mozilla-testing repos can be found at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/PreviewArchives. Please remember these are testing repos, the packages in these repos are not stable and may break things on your system. Use with caution. Please report bugs found from these packages to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/PreviewArchives/Bugs.
[12:40] <azazel> ah, the bot
[12:40] <asac> cool it woke up :)
[12:41] <asac> anyway .. if there is no firefox-granparadiso in there
[12:41] <asac> use firefox-trunk for now
[12:41] <azazel> many thanks, asac. and foe debian, ara you aware of any similar repo?
[12:41] <asac> -granparadiso is in NEW queue for gutsy
[12:41] <asac> azazel: no :) ... but it should build fine
[12:42] <asac> i have no time to keep a debian repo up-to-date for that
[12:42] <asac> if someone volunteers to provide debian builds regularly, i am here to help :)
[12:42] <asac> gnomefreak: is -paradiso in preview archive as well?
[12:42] <asac> or just -trunk?
[12:43] <azazel> i never made a debian package, but maybe...
[12:43] <asac> azazel: apt-get source firefox-granparadiso then copy those files to a debian sid ...
[12:43] <asac> then goto firefox-granparadiso directory and run
[12:43] <asac> dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot
[12:43] <asac> done
[12:43] <asac> (you might need to install build-essential package as well as dependencies that build complains about)
[12:44] <azazel> yeah, i've built other packages ... mmm seems simple
[12:45] <azazel> what do you use to create a debian repo?
[12:45] <azazel> or maybe i can give them to you
[12:47] <azazel> asac: you know if running gran paradiso screws up the profile for legacy ffox?
[12:48] <asac> azazel: should work ... but better keep a regular backup of your .mozilla directory
[12:48] <asac> ... just in case
[12:48] <azazel> mmm the .firefox isn't used anymore?
[12:48] <asac> azazel: if you upload your debs somewhere, we can probably pull them over to our preview archive as well
[12:49] <asac> azazel: you still have that dir?
[12:49] <asac> i think its not used ... but better backup as well :)
[12:49] <azazel> :)
[12:49] <asac> usually things go to .mozilla/firefox/ nowadays
[12:55] <azazel> so it seems i will be able to try the new python stuff in gecko 1.9
[12:55] <azazel> fantastic
[12:57] <asac> azazel: what python stuff do you mean?
[12:57] <asac> is that supported in default granparadiso builds?
[12:58] <asac> otherwise i might have not enabled it (because i didn't know).
[12:59] <azazel> no, but it's packaged externally: http://vamposdecampos.googlepages.com/pyxpcom
[12:59] <asac> ah ok
[01:00] <azazel> the top would be to recompile and package it for debian/ubuntu as well
[01:00] <asac> is that free-software ? e.g. GPL/LGPL/MPL ?
[01:00] <asac> probably it is as its cut out of mozilla trea
[01:00] <azazel> but let's make one step at a time
[01:00] <asac> tree
[01:01] <azazel> yes
[01:01] <asac> azazel: i think you have to recompile it anyway ... as their build probably uses different libstdc++ major version
[01:03] <asac> gnomefreak: ok i pushed a good bunch of firefox changes to bzr that will have to wait until tribe-2 is out
[01:03] <asac> ... now preparing a cherry-pick build for two urgent issues that have to be fixed for tribe-2
[02:00] <gnomefreak> asac: no granparadiso is not in preview and i like it that way so i can update on a weekly basis instead of when they release tarball
[02:01] <asac> gnomefreak: ok
[02:01] <gnomefreak> asac: you have more to push to firefox bzr?
[02:02] <gnomefreak> like java but i think that is gutsy not so much feisty but would rather have it in feisty incase
[02:02] <asac> java is good in feisty
[02:02] <asac> won't work with our preview version though
[02:02] <asac> once java is fixed in gutsy we probably want to backport it for our archive as well
[02:03] <gnomefreak> k thats easy enough
[02:03] <gnomefreak> so ff ready to be built?
[02:03] <gnomefreak> for preview?
[02:04] <gnomefreak> i still have to start coffee and do a bunch of other things before ff starts build so take you time
[02:30] <gnomefreak> asac: hjmf next CC meeting is on june 26th at 1300UTC
[02:31] <asac> gnomefreak: bzr state should be good
[02:31] <gnomefreak> k
[02:31] <asac> changelog is not up to date
[02:33] <asac> but you can use it
[02:33] <asac> just append ~mt1 or something
[02:33] <asac> then go
[02:33] <gnomefreak> k
[02:33] <gnomefreak> latest revision is 61?
[02:33] <asac> yeah
[02:33] <gnomefreak> cool
[02:33] <asac> bluekuja messed up the mozillateam branch
[02:33] <asac> o you need to merge
[02:34] <asac> but should be more or less straight forward
[02:34] <asac> just a minor changelog conflict
[02:34] <asac> so you can probably do the merge in a minute or so
[02:34] <asac> otherwise build directly from my branch and bug bluekuja to merge mozillateam ;)
[02:37] <asac> gnomefreak: do we see debian bug 423665
[02:37] <ubotu> Debian bug 423665 in iceape "iceape: cpu at 100% in download window" [Grave,Open]  http://bugs.debian.org/423665
[02:37] <asac> in iceape?
[02:37] <gnomefreak> i pulled from your branch as always than i normall merge to mozillateam
[02:38] <gnomefreak> asac: i havent seen that yet ill test
[02:39] <gnomefreak> how would i know we dont have that version
[02:40] <asac> which version?
[02:40] <asac> 1.0.x?
[02:40] <asac> does it exist in 1.1.x ?
[02:40] <gnomefreak> nothing higher than 12%CPU oin version 1.1.2
[02:40] <gnomefreak> asac: that bug is on 1.0.8
[02:41] <gnomefreak> when opening and resizing download manager
[02:41] <hjmf> offtopic question: is there any way to determine which firefox profile is being used at any moment?
[02:41] <asac>  ... hmm 12% ?
[02:41] <asac> gnomefreak: doing what?
[02:41] <gnomefreak> hjmf: profile manager
[02:41] <hjmf> I mean in the moment of a crash
[02:41] <gnomefreak> resizing the download manager window
[02:41] <asac> oh
[02:41] <gnomefreak> hjmf: i dont think so
[02:41] <asac> hjmf: the reporter should know
[02:41] <hjmf> I'm doing a draft on the firefox hook
[02:41] <asac> hjmf: if he doesn't he probably uses the default
[02:42] <asac> hjmf: you can see which one is default in .mozilla/firefox/profiles.ini
[02:42] <gnomefreak> asac: he states in bug it happens doing these6things
[02:42] <hjmf> asac: ok
[02:42] <asac> hjmf: look in it
[02:42] <gnomefreak> When the download manager window is used (opened ,focused, moved,
[02:42] <gnomefreak> resized, scrolled,  clicked) iceape cpu usage go near 100%
[02:42] <asac> hjmf: is pretty self-explanatory
[02:42] <asac> gnomefreak: you mean it consumed this cpu usage while you have it open
[02:43] <asac> or while you are opening it?
[02:43] <asac> e.g. it 100% just intermediate ... for how long?
[02:43] <gnomefreak> when its open and resizing it it uses max of 12 %
[02:43] <gnomefreak> i dont see 100% usage at all
[02:43] <asac> and if its just open (in the foreground) ?
[02:43] <gnomefreak> 7%
[02:43] <asac> gnomefreak: what system are you on?
[02:43] <asac> slow one?=
[02:43] <gnomefreak> 7-12%
[02:43] <asac> or speedy?
[02:43] <gnomefreak> no p4
[02:44] <asac> yeah ... on old system it might consume 100% then
[02:44] <gnomefreak> it doesnt state what pc to use
[02:44] <asac> yeah
[02:44] <gnomefreak> asac: well of course that is gonna happen
[02:44] <asac> but assume he has rotten thing :)
[02:45] <gnomefreak> Kernel: Linux 2.6.18-4-686 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
[02:45] <gnomefreak> thats not slow pc
[02:46] <asac> looking
[02:46] <asac> gnomefreak: do yoou have a screenshot of downloadmanager window?
[02:46] <asac> hmm
[02:46] <gnomefreak> i can
[02:46] <asac> maybe he really refers to the act of opening downoad manager
[02:46] <gnomefreak> but ther eis nothing in there
[02:46] <asac> you said it peeks at 100% then?
[02:47] <asac> i think thats his bug ... e.g. if you *use* the window ... in terms its moved around and stuff like that
[02:47] <asac> or during the resizing
[02:48] <asac> hmnm i think its the same for firefox
[02:48] <asac> if i resize a lot i get one core fully utilized
[02:48] <asac> 14:46 < gnomefreak> but ther eis nothing in there
[02:48] <asac> 14:46 < asac> you said it peeks at 100% then?
[02:48] <asac> 14:47 < asac> i think thats his bug ... e.g. if you *use* the window ... in terms its moved around and stuff like  that
[02:48] <asac> 14:47 < asac> or during the resizing
[02:48] <asac> gnomefreak: anything else you said?
[02:48] <gnomefreak> hold on power went out
[02:49] <gnomefreak> i can not reproduce his issue
[02:49] <asac> ok
[02:49] <gnomefreak> 15% is highest i can get it without downloading something
[02:50] <asac> gnomefreak: you need download entries
[02:50] <asac> do you have them?
[02:50] <asac> e.g. finished downloads in the manager for instance
[02:50] <asac> if its cleaned up it probably won't consume much CPU
[02:50] <gnomefreak> it did not say that in the bug report
[02:50] <gnomefreak> give me bug # again and about 20 minutes ill let you know
[02:51] <asac> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=423665
[02:51] <ubotu> Debian bug 423665 in iceape "iceape: cpu at 100% in download window" [Grave,Open]
[02:57] <gnomefreak> where can i find a bunch of small downloads
[03:00] <asac> hmm
[03:00] <asac> just choose any :)
[03:00] <asac> i have no idea
[03:00] <asac> maybe download images
[03:00] <asac> with save image as ...
[03:01] <asac> should bring you a new download entry
[03:02] <asac> gnomefreak: ^^^
[03:03] <gnomefreak> i am
[03:05] <gnomefreak> 19 is highest with 5 downloads in download manager
[03:05] <gnomefreak> 19%
[03:05] <gnomefreak> eh 22%
[03:06] <gnomefreak> only that high for a second or 2
[03:06] <gnomefreak> than goes back down  (scrolling through downloads, resizing, moving)
[03:07] <asac> ok thanks
[03:07] <gnomefreak> yw
[03:12] <asac> damn ... something broke my X11 forwarding
[03:12] <asac> through ssh
[03:12] <asac> haven't used it for a while so i have no idea what made it break
[03:13] <asac> but now i need it :/
[03:13] <gnomefreak> gutsy?
[03:14] <hjmf> if you have time test the output of this draft of firefox apport hook: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26726/
[03:14] <hjmf> I have quite simple profile
[03:14] <hjmf> my output looks like: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26727/
[03:15] <hjmf> it just prints out extensions.ini and a summary of the profiles that are in the default profile dir
[03:15] <hjmf> asac: gnomefreak  ^^
[03:16] <asac> hjmf: pretty cool
[03:17] <asac> hjmf: if you wanna be a hero print the em:name field content of install.rdf for each extension as well :)
[03:17] <asac> e.g. Extension1=/home/hjmf/.mozilla/firefox/oicl0ue1.default/extensions/{e4a8a97b-f2ed-450b-b12d-ee082ba24781}/install.rdf
[03:17] <asac> there should be plenty of meta info (otherwise we might not be able to find what extension is e4a8a97b-f2ed-450b-b12d-ee082ba24781}
[03:17] <hjmf> asac: it is already
[03:18] <hjmf> field ExtensionsDirSummary:
[03:18] <hjmf> in the output
[03:18] <asac> ah right :)
[03:18] <asac> yeah
[03:18] <asac> thats amazing
[03:18] <hjmf> then I'm a hero :D
[03:18] <hjmf> lol
[03:18] <asac> can you dump that summary for things in global dir as well?
[03:18] <hjmf> global dir?
[03:19] <asac> yes like for Extension0=/usr/lib/firefox/extensions/{972ce4c6-7e08-4474-a285-3208198ce6fd}
[03:19] <asac> or<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:19] <hjmf> sure
[03:19] <asac> are those in extensions.ini as well?
[03:19] <asac> or where do you get them from?
[03:19] <asac> ah ... its the extension.ini on top
[03:19] <asac> cool
[03:19] <hjmf> yes
[03:20] <hjmf> extension.ini is the first field
[03:20] <asac> ok ... maybe we want .mozilla/firefox/pluginreg.dat as well :)
[03:20] <hjmf> and the extension name, version and id the second one
[03:20] <hjmf> just a dump?
[03:20] <asac> i think so ... looks good
[03:20] <hjmf> k
[03:20] <asac> we can try to do a dpkg -S on each .so file in there
[03:20] <asac> and if there is a package, dump the package version
[03:21] <hjmf> k
[03:21] <asac> but maybe not in initial version :)
[03:21] <hjmf> HOWEVER....
[03:21] <hjmf> I haven't been able to make it work with apport :(
[03:21] <asac> why not?
[03:21] <asac> how did you try?
[03:21] <asac> you have to use Firefox menu Help -> Report a Bug ... i guess
[03:22] <hjmf> ah
[03:22] <hjmf> I just looked at the crash report
[03:22] <hjmf> kill -s SIGSEGV $(pidof firefox-bin)
[03:22] <asac> dunno ... if Report a Bug works ... then crash should work as well
[03:22] <asac> but i think report a bug is easier to test
[03:22] <asac> hmmm
[03:23] <asac> where did you put the .py file?
[03:23] <hjmf> I'm following the indications at /usr/share/doc/apport/package-hooks.txt
[03:23] <hjmf> so at  /usr/share/apport/package-hooks/<packagename>.py
[03:24] <asac> hjmf: could you get an example to work?
[03:24] <hjmf> I've tried with firefox.py, firefox-bin.py, source-firefox.py and source_firefox-bin.py
[03:24] <hjmf> asac: no
[03:24] <asac> firefox.py should be
[03:24] <asac> hmm
[03:24] <hjmf> I just tried to test it with the example
[03:25] <hjmf> I haven't tested my hook yet
[03:25] <asac> hmmm afaik the current hook from david worked
[03:25] <asac> once
[03:25] <asac> import commands
[03:25] <asac> def add_info(report):
[03:25] <asac> import commands
[03:25] <hjmf> yeah
[03:25] <asac> def add_info(report):
[03:25] <asac> ups
[03:25] <asac> let me try
[03:25] <hjmf> I tried def add_info(report):
[03:26] <hjmf>    report['FooField']  = ' Find me'
[03:26] <hjmf> and didn't work
[03:27] <gnomefreak> with bzr bd how do you sign it?
[03:27] <asac> hjmf:
[03:27] <asac> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/121740
[03:27] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121740 in firefox "test hook bug" [Undecided,New]
[03:27] <asac> it worked here
[03:27] <hjmf> maybe I have to report a bug and that info doesnt go to the /var/crash report
[03:28] <asac> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26732/
[03:28] <asac> hjmf: each field gets its own file
[03:28] <hjmf> ah
[03:28] <hjmf> I'll try then
[03:28] <asac> like in the bug above
[03:28] <hjmf> how did you make the report
[03:29] <hjmf> ?
[03:29] <hjmf> just reporting a bug from the menu?
[03:29] <asac> in Help -> Report a bug ...
[03:29] <asac> in firefox
[03:29] <asac> yeah
[03:29] <hjmf> ok
[03:29] <asac> and dropping the .py script to the hooks path
[03:29] <asac> /usr/share/apport/package-hooks/firefox.py
[03:35] <hjmf> hmm, it doesn't work as I expected... bug121744
[03:35] <hjmf> bug 121744
[03:35] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121744 in firefox "test report" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121744
[03:36] <hjmf> asac: It works, the files go to the attachment and the rest go to the summary
[03:36] <hjmf> cool :)
[03:36] <asac> hmm
[03:36] <asac> intersting
[03:38] <gnomefreak> bug 121740
[03:38] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121740 in firefox "test hook bug" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121740
[03:38] <gnomefreak> :)
[03:38] <asac> hjmf: any idea when things go to attachement and when to summary?
[03:38] <asac> maybe strings go to summary
[03:38] <hjmf> looks like this
[03:38] <asac> while file objects go to  attachment?
[03:38] <asac> is it that simple?
[03:38] <asac> but why does the example of me attach a gnash.txt :)
[03:39] <asac> maybe the "makereport" method produces a file
[03:39] <asac> ?
[03:39] <asac> hjmf: ok so maybe name it ExtensionsDirSummary -> Extensions
[03:39] <asac> and maybe indicate if local or global
[03:40] <asac> hjmf: how do you decide which profile to use?
[03:40] <hjmf> asac: parsing the profile.ini file and looking for 'default'
[03:41] <asac> ah ... maybe we can include all profiles? ... and attach profile.ini so we can guess that default is probably the one used?
[03:41] <hjmf> and if there's no name='default' use the first one in glob.glob
[03:41] <asac> should be ok for now
[03:41] <asac> maybe add to wishlist ... but attaching profiles.ini would be nice anyway
[03:41] <hjmf> asac: that's simplier
[03:41] <hjmf> simpler
[03:41] <asac> same for pluginsreg.dat
[03:41] <asac> whats simpler? all?
[03:42] <hjmf> just attaching the ini files instead of parsing them :)
[03:42] <asac> ah
[03:42] <asac> but can we still get extensions for each profile?
[03:42] <asac> and a readable name for them in the extensionsummary?
[03:42] <hjmf> sure
[03:42] <asac> so we see extension a (global)
[03:42] <asac> extension b (local / default)
[03:43] <asac> extension c (local / HomeProfile)
[03:43] <asac> or sorted like
[03:43] <asac> Global Extensions:
[03:43] <asac>   a)
[03:43] <asac>   b)
[03:43] <asac> Local Extensions:
[03:43] <asac> (profile: default)
[03:43] <asac>   a)
[03:43] <asac>   b)
[03:43] <asac> Local Extensions (profile: blablabla):
[03:43] <asac>   a)
[03:43] <asac>   b)
[03:43] <asac> dunno ... do what is easiest for you
[03:44] <hjmf> yes, that does sound funny for me
[03:44] <asac> for now just info from default should be good enough thouzgh
[03:44] <asac> i think adding pluginsreg.dat
[03:44] <asac> (or however that was called) would be enough to add it to next package upload
[03:44] <hjmf> I'll work on that during the weekend if I have time
[03:45] <asac> if you want to do some more cleanup let me know ;)
[03:45] <asac> cool
[03:45] <asac> hjmf: maybe at some point we want to attach history as well :)
[03:45] <asac> so maybe we can reproduce ;)
[03:45] <asac> but we get a huge privacy issue i guess
[03:46] <hjmf> man, the apport hook is cool 8)
[03:46] <asac> yeah ;)
[03:46] <hjmf> sad not having seen it before
[03:46] <asac> at best we would ship kind of click recorder
[03:46] <asac> extension
[03:46] <asac> for people that want to volunteer on debugging
[03:46] <asac> then submit the record so we can replay :)
[03:47] <hjmf> yes, but I think that's beyond me :)
[03:49] <hjmf> SUMMARIZING: attach  pluginsreg.dat,  profiles.ini, extensions.ini. Then a list of extensions either global or local
[03:50] <asac> for global and local ... but otherwise yes
[03:50] <hjmf> I meant and :)
[03:50] <asac> cool
[03:50] <asac> maybe you can add reports for a few important packages as well
[03:50] <asac> like in the example i attached
[03:50] <asac> but i think pluginsreg.dat is good enough
[03:51] <asac> for the first round
[03:51] <hjmf> yes, I have to merge dfarings hook too
[03:51] <asac> some packages should be outdated
[03:51] <hjmf> I havent look at it yet
[03:51] <asac> but extending the list of submitted patches is trivial
[03:52] <asac> the hard work is in unwrapping the profile info
[03:52] <asac> which you did :)
[03:52] <hjmf> that's the funny part :-P
[03:52] <asac> so yeah the rest is for the monkeys ;)
[03:52] <hjmf> lol
[03:53] <gnomefreak> spamming email!!!!!!
[03:54] <asac> gnomefreak: please done't
[03:54] <asac> don't
[03:54] <gnomefreak> you are
[03:54] <asac> me?
[03:54] <gnomefreak> you or hjmf
[03:54] <asac> oh
[03:54] <asac> maybe it was apport service again :)
[03:54] <asac> i only have 19 unread in bug folder
[03:55] <asac> so ... you probably have a backlog :)
[03:56] <gnomefreak> asac: i havent looked yet but if you look in #ubuntu-bugs a bunch of test bugs for apport hooks
[03:56] <gnomefreak> bug 121742 bug 121743 bug 121744
[03:56] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121742 in firefox "test report" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121742
[03:56] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121743 in firefox "test bug" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121743
[03:56] <gnomefreak> and so on
[03:56] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121744 in firefox "test report" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121744
[03:57] <hjmf> gnomefreak: just 4
[03:57] <hjmf> one from asac
[03:57] <hjmf> and 3 from me
[03:57] <gnomefreak> im assuming your not done yet either :)
[03:57] <hjmf> gnomefreak: lol we are finish
[03:58] <hjmf> we have finish (better)
[03:58] <gnomefreak> asac: im not liking bzr bd atm
[04:03] <gnomefreak> asac: what do i need to set in ~/.bashrc to sign packages when using bzr bd?
[04:03] <gnomefreak> any idea?
[04:04] <asac> gnomefreak: you have to run
[04:04] <asac> with a builder:
[04:05] <asac> bzr bd --builder='dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b' ... for instance
[04:05] <asac> just use the normal dpkg-buildpackage command line in --builder
[04:05] <asac> otherwise use bzr bd as usualy
[04:06] <gnomefreak> bzr bd doesnt sign package though :( so i have to use full command inside bzr bd
[04:08] <asac> gnomefreak: i think so ... but might be wrong
[04:08] <asac> maybe ask sirestart
[04:09] <asac> who is responsible for this great but still a bit messy piece of software
[04:13] <gnomefreak> this makes no frigging sense now
[04:13] <gnomefreak> i cant build it if i change the changelog without commiting it
[04:14] <gnomefreak> that would mean i guess i cant use --merge
[04:24] <gnomefreak> asac: did ff build for you?
[04:24] <gnomefreak> asac: its not building on feisty due to Patch stable-fsh does not apply.
[04:24] <gnomefreak> Applying patch stable-fsh
[04:24] <gnomefreak> can't find file to patch at input line 9
[04:28] <gnomefreak> ignore that
[04:44] <gnomefreak> bug 120880
[04:44] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 120880 in xchat "cycling channel using context menu cycles current channel" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120880
[04:51] <Admiral_Chicago> asac: yes I run kubuntu if you need me
[04:52] <asac> what was it ... hmmm
[04:52] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: yes we have to wait for gnomefreaks testbuilds
[04:52] <Admiral_Chicago> okay
[04:53] <gnomefreak> what?
[04:53] <gnomefreak> huh?
[04:53] <gnomefreak> what build is this?
[04:53] <Admiral_Chicago> i have time to work on nspluginwrapper today.
[04:53] <Admiral_Chicago> i just need to grab breakfast first and fix a few things
[04:54] <asac> k
[04:54] <asac> gnomefreak: last from bzr
[04:54] <asac> gnomefreak: didn't you start that?
[04:54] <asac> gnomefreak: or was it something else you are spinning atm?
[04:55] <asac> gnomefreak: you have wrong orig.tar.gz
[04:55] <gnomefreak> its not building give me a few minutes to work this bullshit out
[04:55] <asac> gnomefreak: if it fails to build
[04:55] <asac> gnomefreak: you have to put gutsy one into tarballs/
[04:55] <asac> gnomefreak: right?
[04:56] <gnomefreak> asac: im not using bzr bd so i had to redo a full dir to build with dpkg
[04:57] <gnomefreak> and it looks like you changed something in rules to not build orig so i have to find new name of source tarball to use
[04:57] <asac> gnomefreak: no just download gutsy orig ... put it in tarballs directory
[04:57] <asac> and use bzr bd
[04:57] <asac> thats failsafe
[04:57] <asac> :)
[04:57] <gnomefreak> no it is failing
[04:57] <asac> everything else brings you to hell :)
[04:57] <asac> gnomefreak: i doubt that it can get easier
[04:57] <gnomefreak> cant build using bzr bd
[04:57] <asac> then bzr bd
[04:57] <asac> why?
[04:57] <gnomefreak> it doesnt like changes to changelog
[04:58] <gnomefreak> it wants me to commit them before building
[04:58] <asac> gnomefreak: yes ... do a "local commit"
[04:58] <asac> or use --use-working
[04:59] <asac> gnomefreak: use bzr bd --working --builder='...' .
[04:59] <asac> then you don't need to commit
[04:59] <gnomefreak> dont use --merge?
[05:01] <gnomefreak> bzr bd --working --builder='dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -k3C1C3C2A'
[05:01] <gnomefreak> causes crash
[05:02] <gnomefreak> http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/583819
[05:02] <gnomefreak> this is why i said fuck bzr
[05:04] <Admiral_Chicago> committing the update to the clue file
[05:04] <gnomefreak> i just pinged sirestart about the traceback
[05:05] <asac> gnomefreak: do you get any results in pluginwizard
[05:05] <gnomefreak> oops i mean siretart
[05:05] <asac> (e.g. if you remove flash)
[05:05] <asac> and go to a flash site?
[05:05] <gnomefreak> asac: i dont remeber
[05:09] <gnomefreak> how fast do you need ff build?
[05:13] <hbb> hi
[05:14] <gnomefreak> asac: im fixing bzr issue atm so maybe it will build
[05:14] <gnomefreak> hbb: hi
[05:15] <asac> gnomefreak: it will
[05:15] <asac> gnomefreak: ff build? ... hmm dunno there was a reason
[05:15] <asac> ;)
[05:15] <gnomefreak> asac: bzr is borked in feisty
[05:15] <asac> gnomefreak: yeah right ... to get a testbuild admiral chicago :)
[05:15] <asac> gnomefreak: no its not ;)
[05:15] <asac> what happens?
[05:16] <gnomefreak> yes it is i just talked to siretart abou it
[05:16] <asac> what doesn't work?
[05:16] <gnomefreak> asac: read the link i gave you
[05:16] <gnomefreak> 11:01 <      gnomefreak > bzr bd --working --builder='dpkg-buildpackage  -rfakeroot -k3C1C3C2A'
[05:16] <gnomefreak> 11:01 <      gnomefreak > causes crash
[05:16] <gnomefreak> 11:01 <      gnomefreak > http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/583819
[05:16] <asac> gnomefreak: then do a commit (for the changelo) ... you can later uncommit it
[05:16] <asac> if you don't publish
[05:16] <gnomefreak> its not that
[05:16] <asac> gnomefreak: you miss a . at the end
[05:16] <asac> of the command-line
[05:17] <gnomefreak> huh?
[05:17] <asac> bzr bd --working --builder='dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -k3C1C3C2A' .
[05:17] <asac> (see: .)
[05:17] <gnomefreak> i never needed that before
[05:17] <asac> you need that for sure
[05:17] <asac> otherwise it will break with some wierd problem
[05:17] <asac> a
[05:17] <asac> damn my keyboard is close to its end
[05:17] <asac> hope it survives today so i can get something on sat
[05:18] <gnomefreak> asac: again it still traces back
[05:19] <asac> the commit
[05:19] <asac> (don't push)
[05:19] <asac> and build as normal
[05:25] <asac> nazul: hi
[05:25] <nazul> hi
[05:25] <nazul> i would like to participate in the mentoring..
[05:25] <nazul> ..
[05:25] <asac> any specific bug you are interested on?
[05:26] <asac> nazul: there was a link in the announcement that gives you a few suggestions
[05:26] <asac> on where you could work and get mentoring on
[05:26] <nazul> yes..
[05:26] <nazul> well
[05:26] <nazul> im interested in bug fixing..
[05:27] <asac> cool
[05:27] <asac> what do you know ... what do you like?
[05:27] <nazul> i like to do C programming..
[05:27] <Admiral_Chicago> asac: thoughts on bug 109547
[05:27] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 109547 in bughelper "support to sort out matched clues to multiple files per package (e.g. one file per task)" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109547
[05:28] <nazul> and i would like to be pointed out to some easy bug problem in mozilla.. so maybe i can fix it..
[05:30] <asac> nazul: so you can programm C ?
[05:30] <nazul> yes..
[05:30] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: just dropped a comment
[05:30] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: I will have to resume this to my current brain context ... just don't know anything anymore atm
[05:31] <gnomefreak> asac: did you try to build this on gutsy yet?
[05:31] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: will take a day or too to recover this info :)
[05:31] <asac> nazul: thats great ... do you know how you can compile mozilla applications ?
[05:31] <asac> gnomefreak: what?
[05:31] <asac> gnomefreak: its build yes.
[05:31] <gnomefreak> ff
[05:31] <asac> how does it bail out?
[05:31] <asac> for you?
[05:31] <gnomefreak> failing on feisty patches
[05:32] <asac> gnomefreak: use the proper tarball
[05:32] <asac> which one do you have?
[05:32] <gnomefreak> Applying patch bzXXX-lp23369-dont-use-gconf-system-prefs-if-not-gnome.patch
[05:32] <nazul> mm not really i have compiled some linux applications
[05:32] <gnomefreak> can't find file to patch at input line 8
[05:32] <asac> gnomefreak: oh
[05:32] <asac> plesae comment that one out
[05:32] <asac> or wait a second
[05:32] <gnomefreak> asac: the same one i used with gutsy builds
[05:32] <asac> i am sorry
[05:33] <gnomefreak> i merged to mozillateam branch
[05:33] <gnomefreak> it should be all good
[05:33] <asac> gnomefreak: ok pushed fix
[05:33] <gnomefreak> ty
[05:33] <asac> just merge the last checkin
[05:34] <asac> thanks
[05:34] <nazul> i have compiled some source code applications ...and installed some plugins for mozilla ..
[05:34] <gnomefreak> yw
[05:35] <asac> nazul: ok ... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Develop?
[05:35] <asac> follow instructions to setup a trunk build
[05:35] <asac> nazul: to get all build dependencies so you can build trunk
[05:35] <asac> just do a
[05:35] <asac> apt-get build-dep
[05:36] <asac> once you have finished build we can go ahead :)
[05:36] <asac> nazul: trunk build for firefox
[05:36] <nazul> oh oks
[05:37] <nazul> i will install it..
[05:37] <gnomefreak> asac: let me know when you have a minute
[05:37] <asac> gnomefreak: -granapradiso build would be really appreciated ... if you cannot do it today, then i will start a build in my chroot
[05:37] <asac> gnomefreak: i want to announce it tonight in forums
[05:37] <asac> gnomefreak: as it is currently on buildds
[05:37] <asac> for gutsy
[05:37] <gnomefreak> asac: granparadiso for gutsy?
[05:37] <asac> yes ... for gutsy it will be in in a few
[05:37] <asac> for feisy i want to use our archive
[05:37] <asac> as well
[05:38] <asac> so the forum crowd gets attracted ;)
[05:38] <gnomefreak> you want granparadiso in preview?
[05:38] <asac> feisty preview ... yes
[05:38] <asac> otoh we can tell them that we have -trunk
[05:38] <asac> yeah ... -granparadiso will be upgraded every few month as well
[05:39] <asac> but ok ... it just makes the announcement longer ... though upstream wants more feedback on granparadiso
[05:39] <gnomefreak> granparadiso is once a month i would rather have more releases this way it fixes issue that may come up that are urgent
[05:39] <asac> and if they find bugs we can ask them to verify if its still on -trunk
[05:39] <asac> gnomefreak: yes, but calling for widespread testing on -trunk
[05:39] <gnomefreak> cant we use the granparadiso name?
[05:39] <asac> might cause lots of noise for issues that are currently dealt with anyway
[05:40] <asac> gnomefreak: for -trunk build not
[05:40] <asac> gnomefreak: because of the reason i said ... wider testing on -trunk is too much noise ... we cannot provide valuable feedback to upstream ... -trunk is for people that want always the latest and to verify if things are fixed already
[05:41] <asac> nazul: is it ok for you?
[05:41] <gnomefreak> than we keep both builds trunk and granparadiso in preview?
[05:41] <asac> gnomefreak: definitly
[05:41] <nazul> yes..
[05:41] <asac> -trunk will be there for ever
[05:41] <asac> -granparadiso will be dropped once firefox 3.0 is out
[05:41] <gnomefreak> good than i will see what i can do right now 2.0.0.x is my main concern and you have 2 bugs to please look at for me
[05:42] <asac> nazul: cool ... but without a build you cannot really code and having a build infrastructure at hand is pretty helpful.
[05:42] <asac> gnomefreak: i only know of java
[05:42] <asac> which i will probably upload on saturday
[05:42] <asac> as i still hope to get my hands on doko
[05:42] <asac> (who is at debconf and not online afaik)
[05:43] <gnomefreak> bug 113826 and bug 116642
[05:43] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 113826 in thunderbird "save as horribly broken in latest thunderbird" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/113826
[05:43] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 116642 in thunderbird "Thunderbird always shows 1 unread email in Inbox" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116642
[05:48] <asac> gnomefreak: that is probably known upstream
[05:49] <asac> gnomefreak: actuallyl i think its a gtk issue (bug 113826
[05:49] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 113826 in thunderbird "save as horribly broken in latest thunderbird" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/113826
[05:49] <asac> as thunderbird just uses the gtk file dialog
[05:49] <asac> can you confirm that it does so in 1.5?
[05:49] <asac> maybe ask reporter for a screenshot
[05:49] <asac> if you don't want to start tbird in feisty
[05:49] <asac> the other bug (bug 116642)
[05:49] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 116642 in thunderbird "Thunderbird always shows 1 unread email in Inbox" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116642
[05:49] <asac> is longstanding and unlikely that there is a fix soon
[05:50] <asac> that is definilty mt-upstream as there should be an upstreawm bug for that
[05:50] <gnomefreak> i dont have tbird 1.5 atm
[05:50] <gnomefreak> if you wait till sunday/monday i can do it
[05:50] <asac> gnomefreak: good enough
[05:50] <asac> doesn't look critical
[05:50] <asac> just a usability annoyance which is a long-standing bug i guess
[05:50] <gnomefreak> can you assign it to me for now
[05:50] <asac> (e.g. no regression)
[05:52] <Admiral_Chicago> asac: did you have time today to look at nspluginwrapper?
[05:53] <asac> gnomefreak: ok assigned and dropped instricutions
[05:53] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: me ... i am already done :)
[05:53] <asac> nspluginwrapper should be in archive (gutsy)
[05:53] <asac> so we can use it
[05:54] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: do you have amd64?
[05:55] <Admiral_Chicago> no.
[05:55] <gnomefreak> asac: ty
[05:55] <Admiral_Chicago> ah this may be a proble
[05:58] <gnomefreak> firefox-granparadiso (3.0~alpha5-0ubuntu2~mt1) good enough for you? asac
[05:58] <asac> yea
[05:58] <asac> h
[05:59] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: probably ... anyway, since java doesn't work with nspluginwrapper ... i am mostly through with flashplugin-nonfree
[05:59] <Admiral_Chicago> that's what I'd like to see.
[05:59] <asac> if you want you can help to make gnash obey the new alternative that flashplugin-nonfree (and flashplugin-common) packages introduce
[05:59] <Admiral_Chicago> sure, let me know where I can help
[05:59] <Admiral_Chicago> i've got to update to gutsy some time today.
[07:14] <gnomefreak> ok i have ff<IP_ADDRESS> building for preview along with granparadiso and i will try to get -trunk updated as well
[07:15] <asac> gnomefreak: good
[07:15] <asac> i will be out now ... cleaning house and then get a bear somewhere
[07:19] <gnomefreak> :) have fun
[07:36] <bluekuja> heya guys
[07:36] <bluekuja> gnomefreak, asac good day
[07:36] <bluekuja> :)
[07:58] <Admiral_Chicago> .wub 15
[07:58] <Admiral_Chicago> err.
[07:58] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: /win 15
[07:58] <gnomefreak> :)
[07:58] <Admiral_Chicago> thanks...haha
[07:58] <Admiral_Chicago> i do that all the time
[07:59] <gnomefreak> me too
[07:59] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: when is the next time you are posting to planet?
[08:06] <Admiral_Chicago> depends, sometime on Monday I think
[08:06] <Admiral_Chicago> why do you ask
[08:08] <gnomefreak> the post i posted to forums can you make it work for planet?
[08:08] <gnomefreak> or post as is to planet? i have to set my blog back up and i wont get to that until mid week or later
[08:08] <Admiral_Chicago> gnomefreak: got a link
[08:09] <gnomefreak> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=480623
[08:09] <Admiral_Chicago> okay, I'll post the link.
[08:10] <Admiral_Chicago> its for testing the repos for Dapper backport of Fx and trunk?
[08:10] <Admiral_Chicago> no eai
[08:10] <Admiral_Chicago> i can read, i swear
[08:10] <gnomefreak> asac: its been stickied (see: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=11) now that that is stickied im thinking of having a topic something like latest news for mozilla team or something like that to where we can announce new projects/new packages to preview and so on
[08:10] <Admiral_Chicago> its a call for help
[08:10] <Admiral_Chicago> i'll blog soon then.
[08:10] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: its a little of call for help and people that want latest and greatest i guess
[08:11] <gnomefreak> i hoping for a more of an invite type post more so than a begging for help :)
[08:15] <gnomefreak> ty Admiral_Chicago
[08:27] <gnomefreak> debian bug 423665
[08:27] <ubotu> Debian bug 423665 in iceape "iceape: cpu at 100% in download window" [Grave,Open]  http://bugs.debian.org/423665
[08:27] <gnomefreak> hmmm that one again
[08:28] <bluekuja> gnomefreak, where's asac?
[08:28] <gnomefreak> asac: gone for the day
[08:28] <bluekuja> OH
[08:28] <bluekuja> *oh
[08:29] <bluekuja> ok
[08:29] <bluekuja> :)
[08:38] <gnomefreak> <IP_ADDRESS> is done but gonna wait til tonight to upload so i only have to do it once
[08:40] <bluekuja> asac: firefox-gp failed to build on two archs
[08:40] <bluekuja> ia64 and sparc
[08:41] <gnomefreak> it figures
[08:41] <gnomefreak> bluekuja: take the weekend off worry about it after the freeze ;)
[08:42] <bluekuja> frezze already there?
[08:42] <bluekuja> *freeze
[08:42] <bluekuja> it was on 21 june
[08:43] <bluekuja> gnomefreak, right?
[08:43] <gnomefreak> i dont rmeember what day the freeze is i got it in email today but was too busy to read it
[08:44] <bluekuja> :D
[08:56] <Admiral_Chicago> gnomefreak: did you get my PM?
[08:57] <nazul> asac
[09:01] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: last night yeah so far nothing
[09:02] <gnomefreak> nazul: hes gone for the day is there something that i can help you with?
[09:02] <nazul> oh oks yes..
[09:02] <nazul> i was installing the mozilla trunk
[09:03] <nazul> to contribute through the mentoring..
[09:03] <nazul> bug fixing..
[09:03] <gnomefreak> ok feisty trunk package?
[09:04] <nazul> yes
[09:04] <gnomefreak> and?
[09:04] <nazul> i have the trunk for mozilla browser
[09:05] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: thats not saying much though im still waiting on debian maintainer of kxdocker to email me back
[09:05] <gnomefreak> nazul: im assuming he wants you to start on the mt-needstester tags to see if it hapens with that package
[09:05] <gnomefreak> ?
[09:06] <nazul> mm no he didn't tell me , he want me to install the mozilla trunk first..
[09:09] <gnomefreak> nazul: ok give me a few minutes dealing with this troll crap
[09:09] <nazul> i'm new to this..
[09:09] <nazul> oks
[09:17] <gnomefreak> nazul: do you have LP account?
[09:17] <nazul> no..
[09:18] <gnomefreak> nazul: ok i would say come back monday and ping asac he may be here tomorrow and sunday but hes in and out over weekends
[09:18] <nazul> oh oks..
[11:18] <gnomefreak> bzr: ERROR: The build failed.  <<< nice frigging error
[11:18] <gnomefreak> what can bzr not tell me why


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