[03:06] <SpacePuppy> ask them in chan KromiX
[03:06] <synjet> KromiX, ask here
[03:06] <tritium> spuddogg: right, it's a file
[03:06] <willys_fueguino> amorfo, what are you saying? that I should go back to windows to play it??
[03:06] <KromiX> oh ok i didn't think here is the appropriate place ;P
[03:07] <grouchytim> yeah i got ya but i did that command and it came up with packages kept back
[03:07] <lostboyz> hi i just installed the xubuntu and my dimensions are really larg
[03:07] <amorfo> willys_fueguino, thats the only thing windows is good for.. and that because devs don't release builds for linux
[03:07] <jUggERNAUt1980> CrippsFX:  it was instantaneous!  there were two different drivers on my cd, and i picked randomly.  it was kinda hit and miss.
[03:07] <CrippsFX> KromiX, for future reference, you don't need to ask to ask ... you can just ask ;)
[03:07] <KromiX> lol
[03:07] <lostboyz> how do i change the dimensions
[03:07] <tritium> spuddogg: "man wireless" for info on how it can be used to configure wireless parameters
[03:07] <tritium> spuddogg: which GUI did you use?
[03:07] <CrippsFX> jUggERNAUt1980, lol. what does ifconfig say about your wireless card?
[03:08] <synjet> lostboyz: screen resolution you mean?
[03:08] <lostboyz> i have a dell lcd monitor
[03:08] <lostboyz> no
[03:08] <lostboyz> the dimensions
[03:08] <jUggERNAUt1980> crap!  i'm in windows right now!
[03:08] <lostboyz> like 640 x480
[03:08] <jUggERNAUt1980> :P
[03:08] <CrippsFX> jUggERNAUt1980, darn!
[03:08] <grouchytim> lol
[03:08] <spuddogg> tritium, i just added the line wireless-key <key> into /etc/network/interfaces.  im going to try my other card now
[03:08] <spuddogg> tritium, brb man
[03:08] <jUggERNAUt1980> you see, i don't "pay" for my inet access, so sometimes i can't get connected in ubuntu over wifi.
[03:08] <grouchytim> jUggERNAUt1980      aghhh we suck again! lol
[03:09] <grouchytim> me too
[03:09] <_tom_> jUggERNAUt1980, klick on..., then on...., then you click there... ;D
[03:09] <synjet> lostboyz: system->preference->screen resolution
[03:09] <grouchytim> lol
[03:09] <grouchytim> need help with windows i'm your guy ..... i know i suck
[03:09] <lostboyz> there are no pref i am using xubuntu
[03:09] <tritium> spuddogg: okay
[03:09] <^Ocean^> sklav, you ever enconter compiz: GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing
[03:09] <jUggERNAUt1980> yay for free interLiNk!
[03:09] <synjet> lostboyz: try #xubuntu
[03:10] <sklav> ^Ocean^, install cgwd-themes
[03:10] <sklav> ;)
[03:10] <jUggERNAUt1980> hahaha, poo on windows.
[03:10] <grouchytim> lol
[03:10] <jUggERNAUt1980> it's all just too easy there.
[03:10] <grouchytim> true
[03:10] <kruncher> why does apt-get hold back packages
[03:10] <tritium> kruncher: when a dist-upgrade is required to pull in new package, for example
[03:11] <Slynderdale> Alright, a question to those expieranced with creating a dual boot of Linux and Windows and creating a partition on ane xisting NTFS Windows XP hard drive. Waht do you think is the easiest and less probematic way to go about this without risking data loss or corruption?
[03:11] <Tokenbad> anyone know how to use crontab or whatever its called?
[03:11] <lostboyz> i have a question
[03:11] <lostboyz> how do change the dimensions in xubuntu
[03:11] <jUggERNAUt1980> back up your files and get rid of windows.
[03:11] <kruncher> tritium: thanks, also why did the new flashplugin-nonfree error out while installing?
[03:11] <sethk> Slynderdale, there is no way to resize partitions without risk
[03:12] <sethk> Slynderdale, you must have a backup
[03:12] <grouchytim> you have windows and you don't want data loss or corruption?
[03:12] <KromiX> here comes my Noob questions :) sorry guys tryin 2 make the switch lol
[03:12] <synjet> Slynderdale: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56723
[03:12] <sethk> Slynderdale, you can ask 1000 times, and the answer will still be the same
[03:12] <KromiX> Windoze-Noob questions: 1) Will it affect my network in any way? I'm on a small home network of 4 PC's through a standard Linksys Router. 2) This "wine" can it run ANYTHING from windows without a problem? And should I know anything about it regarding windows stuff? 3) Is gaming hindered since its "made for windows" and there is a program in the middle like Wine or Cedega forcing it to run? 4) whats the best website for assistance
[03:12] <tritium> kruncher: I've only recently heard about that.  Not sure, perhaps a change upstream.  I think it's being addressed presently.
[03:12] <synjet> Slynderdale: but those contain the general disclaimers, dont sue me ;)
[03:12] <sethk> KromiX, no, it definitely cannot run anything from windows without any problems
[03:12] <kruncher> tritium: thanks again, ill just wait and see what happons then
[03:12] <SpacePuppy> KromiX, 1) no. 2) no, most things. 3) depends on the game 4) idunno
[03:13] <czer323> KromiX> It really depends on the applications you want to use.  It's not perfect, but I know they've done a great job making it work with things like Office.
[03:13] <spuddogg_> tritium !!!!
[03:13] <tritium> hey spuddogg_
[03:13] <spuddogg_> tritium, thanks so much man...its working great now
[03:13] <tritium> rockin, spuddogg_ :)
[03:13] <synjet> KrimiX: for free support: you have ubuntuforums.org or IRC, and ubuntuguide.org for help.. for customized help, there is paid support from canonical/ubnutu
[03:13] <Barry_> Hello, all. I have the hedgehog and want to upgrade to the drake. What do I need to do?
[03:13] <spuddogg_> tritium, you mind if i repeat that? lol :)
[03:14] <KromiX> Well I would just use OpenOffice cause it saves in formats for windows office, if i need to turn something in at or school...
[03:14] <Slynderdale> sethk: I figured as much, basicly the question was, which way would be the easiest with the least chance of user error screwing things up basicly. The reason why I have been asking, well, I have no simple way to backup my files :/
[03:14] <tritium> spuddogg_: heh ;)
[03:14] <rredd4> are the updates being tested before they are released to the public?
[03:14] <crimsun> rredd4: yes
[03:14] <rredd4> ok tu
[03:14] <rredd4> ty
[03:14] <synjet> rredd4: ofcourse, free does not equate to unprofessionalism ;)
[03:14] <sklav> Sivik, anything?
[03:15] <Sivik> sklav: i'm on the laptop now
[03:15] <KromiX> Damn thats the only part I'm worried about switching over, is gaming cause I play a game or two every once in a while, I didn't want to hinder game-play :P.... So which should I start with (distro?). I was looking at Kubuntu? or should I just start with regular Ubuntu?
[03:15] <Sivik> now my time in bios is all fubared
[03:15] <rredd4> synjet  after the x update, i guess i am a bit gun shy
[03:15] <tritium> KromiX: do you have a desktop preference?
[03:15] <Sivik> sklav: i'm now fixing it
[03:15] <sklav> Sivik, make sure it set properly
[03:15] <sklav> and then check this out
[03:15] <synjet> rredd4: some glitches do slip in, but see the response time.. that was lightning :)
[03:15] <sklav> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/system-administrator/ch-sysadmin-time.html
[03:16] <KromiX> well in terms of look i liked kubuntu, which is why i'm leaning towards it, unless theres something i should know about it, or if ubuntu is a better 'starter' linux-distro...
[03:16] <orbin> Barry_: you'll have to go to breezy, then to dapper. or just clean-install dapper  IIRC
[03:16] <Sivik> sklav, yeah, no joke
[03:16] <orbin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades
[03:16] <sklav> Sivik, it says how to fix timezone on commandline
[03:16] <KromiX> is the difference just appearance?
[03:16] <Barry_> orbin: I thought you could skip two releases.
[03:16] <orbin> Barry_: that site says otherwise
[03:16] <Sivik> sklav: now its correct
[03:16] <rredd4> synjet  i did not notice the x update until it was already fixed.  I feel lucky!
[03:17] <sklav> cool
[03:17] <thenetduck> would somone be able to help me get my icons themes set up in Xubuntu ??
[03:17] <synjet> rredd4: :)
[03:17] <zenmonk> Kromix: they are the same thing, they just look differant
[03:17] <Barry_> orbin: Well. That's unfortunate. But, I guess if that's what it takes...
[03:17] <bobbyyu> Where do I go to find help on Java?
[03:17] <synjet> thenetduck: try #xubuntu
[03:17] <thenetduck> :) thanks
[03:17] <thenetduck> #xubuntu
[03:17] <Sivik> sklav: what says it?
[03:18] <thenetduck> doh
[03:18] <stealg> hi how can i connect to internet with my wireless card
[03:18] <tritium> !wifi
[03:18] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:18] <zenmonk> Kromix: you could get ubuntu, then change to the kde look of kubuntu or vice versa at any time
[03:18] <p00ntang> how do i get on the internets on Ubuntu
[03:18] <sklav> ?
[03:18] <aconley1> can someone tell me how to get an ISA soundblaster 16 card working?
[03:18] <Sivik> stealg, what hareware?
[03:18] <sklav> the url i posted
[03:18] <sklav> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/system-administrator/ch-sysadmin-time.html
[03:18] <Sivik> sklav, yeah, i just missed it
[03:18] <sklav> ah ok
[03:18] <stealg> all the module its ok only i need to know how its the command shell for conect ;)
[03:19] <orbin> bobbyyu: installing?
[03:19] <KromiX> Zenmonk: Oh I can just install regular Ubuntu and then install some kind of kubuntu appearance package or do you mean install kubuntu later
[03:19] <zenmonk> p00ntang: it is often autoconfigured, unless is wireless
[03:19] <stealg> sivik
[03:19] <sklav> i need a coffey
[03:19] <synjet> p00ntang: could you be more descriptive
[03:19] <Sivik> steal: yes
[03:19] <Sivik> stealg, what wireless card?
[03:19] <zenmonk> Kromix: the kubuntu appearance is called KDE, and can be added at any time
[03:19] <stealg> only i need the command line to conect in shell
[03:19] <juank1> I just installed ubuntu, my sound is not working, where can I go to change the driver? I am a windows user trying to move to linux, please be patient
[03:19] <crimsun> juank1: which sound card?
[03:19] <Sivik> stealg, thats fine, its probably ifconfig eth1 (wlan0) up
[03:20] <zenmonk> Kromix: its a matter of personal preferance, but as far as the operating system is concerned, they are identical
[03:20] <TheManiacKY> Is there a console program I can run to login to a msn messenger session?
[03:20] <stealg> Sivik, ip2100
[03:20] <synjet> !sound>juank1
[03:20] <Sivik> stealg, not sure
[03:20] <KromiX> Gotcha
[03:20] <stealg> ok Sivik
[03:20] <tony32269> Does anyone know how to fix the resolution for the log-in screen?
[03:20] <juank1> this is an intel 82801DB
[03:20] <p00ntang> how do i get on the internets on Ubuntu
[03:20] <Brendon> Hi all, i'm trying to run csm (compiz settings manager?) and it says "** ERROR **: couldn't get dbus", is there a package i need to install that i do not have? I've installed all the dbus packages thru apt-get, thanks in advance.
[03:21] <grouchytim> ok i'm trying to install xchat but it keeps holding back packages
[03:21] <Canucky> Create custom clipart & funny ecards on http://www.txt2pic.com ;)
[03:21] <Sivik> sklav, thanks
[03:21] <crimsun> juank1: pastebin the output from: lspci -nv && cat /proc/asound/cards /proc/interrupts
[03:21] <grouchytim> any help on this one?
[03:21] <zenmonk> Kromix: you could get kubuntu, then change to ubuntu look if you wanted too
[03:21] <lostboyz> i have /dev/sda1 extra space /dev/sda2 old home part /dev/sda3 new home and xubuntu and /dev/sda4 swap how do i make /dev/sda2 the home folder and bypass the new home folder?
[03:21] <synjet> grouchytim: apt-get -f install
[03:21] <grouchytim> thanx
[03:21] <TheManiacKY> Is there a console program I can run to login to a msn messenger session?
[03:21] <ladydoor> TheManiacKY: get bitlbee
[03:21] <Sivik> TheManiacKY, did you try googling it?
[03:21] <TheManiacKY> ladydoor thanks
[03:21] <ladydoor> TheManiacKY: you can use it from within an irc client
[03:22] <zenmonk> Kromix: some people consider KDE more user friendly for new windows users
[03:22] <Bird> I need help on partitioning my drives
[03:22] <stealg> Sivik, so stealg@stealg-laptop:~/Desktop/ndiswrapper-1.23$ sudo ifconfig eth1 wlan0 up
[03:22] <stealg> wlan0: Host desconocido
[03:22] <stealg> ifconfig: `--help' gives usage information.
[03:22] <ladydoor> TheManiacKY: (in fact, that's the only way to use it)
[03:22] <Sivik> zenmonk, i would have to agree with you there
[03:22] <Bird> what commands do I use to Partion Drives?
[03:22] <TheManiacKY> ladydoor Like with BitchX
[03:22] <TheManiacKY> ?
[03:22] <Sivik> stealg, one of the other, not both
[03:22] <grouchytim> says couldn't find package xchat
[03:22] <stealg> ok Sivik
[03:22] <Sivik> stealg, it depends on where you is done
[03:22] <rouben> Bird: try fdisk or cfdisk
[03:22] <zenmonk> but I am still a gnome fan myself :)
[03:22] <sklav> grouchytim, make sure you have universe enabled
[03:22] <ladydoor> TheManiacKY: yeah. i use it in irssi, personally, but that's just personal preference :-)
[03:22] <synjet> !partition>Bird
[03:22] <Bird> Thank your rouben
[03:23] <rouben> Bird: yer welcome! :)
[03:23] <grouchytim> where do i check universe
[03:23] <i_am_the_pwn> hey, i'm running dapper on a rather long-in-tooth machine (mobile p3 @1.2 ghz w/256mb ram) and was wondering where i could go within GNOME to kill some apps and otherwise streamline my system
[03:23] <ladydoor> !bitlbee
[03:23] <ubotu> bitlbee: An IRC to other chat networks gateway. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-1 (dapper), package size 291 kB, installed size 756 kB
[03:23] <juank1> crimsun: I'll go do that, thanks
[03:23] <ladydoor> grouchytim: yup
[03:23] <ladydoor> grouchytim: wait, sorry
[03:23] <ladydoor> !xchat
[03:23] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 254 kB, installed size 720 kB
[03:23] <i_am_the_pwn> i found a 'services' tab in system, but it was of limited use
[03:23] <ladydoor> grouchytim: yup
[03:23] <ArrenLex> !kde
[03:23] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[03:23] <synjet> grouchytim: you updated your repos and still error?
[03:23] <ArrenLex> Hehe.
[03:24] <rouben> i_am_the_pwn: what exactly are you trying to kill? you mean unneeded services/background processes?
[03:24] <grouchytim> didn't update repos but did that update from before
[03:24] <rredd4> when I go to watch a video online (with firefox), how can I watch it in fullscreen.  When I right click, I do not see full screen option.
[03:24] <grouchytim> or was that the repo update
[03:24] <Sivik> has anyone been having problems with the flashplugin-nonfree
[03:25] <crimsun> Sivik: what sort of problems?
[03:25] <synjet> grouchytim: you updated the packages.. for getting more applis, you might have to enable some sources.. check yours agains the one at ubuntuguide.org
[03:25] <Bird> I am on the administrator account and I cant get into root when i type in Su in the terminal what am i doing wrong?
[03:25] <i_am_the_pwn> rouben:  basically, yes.  i haven't any trouble with my desktop, but my laptop lags quite a bit under normal loads
[03:25] <synjet> Bird: it is "su"
[03:25] <grouchytim> ok thanx
[03:25] <Bird> yes i type in su
[03:25] <ladydoor> Bird: also, perhaps instead try sudo -i
[03:25] <synjet> Bird: it is "sudo -i"
[03:26] <rouben> i_am_the_pwn: have you tried running top (or htop) or a GUI equivalent thereof? Usually Linux is pretty good at not wasting CPU cycles with sleeping processes
[03:26] <Sivik> crimsun: usage: dpkg: error processing flashplugon-nonfree (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[03:26] <Bird> Thank your sudo -i worked
[03:26] <rouben> i_am_the_pwn: chances are the lag is due to a slow video card
[03:26] <Bird> I was using the knoppix way.
[03:26] <ladydoor> Bird: to use su you need to set the root password...but try sudo -i instead
[03:26] <domibel> sivik, i had the same error
[03:26] <rouben> i_am_the_pwn: or non-hardware accellerated video drivers :)
[03:26] <Canucky> Make free images & funny ecards on http://www.txt2pic.com ;)
[03:26] <orbin> i_am_the_pwn: more RAM couldn't hurt either
[03:26] <i_am_the_pwn> rouben: damn this gma830 all to hell
[03:26] <crimsun> Sivik: that's due to an overzealous backport requester. I worked around it already. Just update && upgrade.
[03:26] <synjet> Bird: and I was telling it the same way :) su is disabled for ubuntu
[03:27] <Sivik> crimsun;  apt-get update && upgrade?
[03:27] <rouben> i_am_the_pwn: ?
[03:27] <crimsun> Sivik: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:27] <CodeBot> !ati
[03:27] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:27] <Bird> What command can I use to make a new partition?
[03:27] <Sivik> ok
[03:27] <orbin> Canucky: stop it
[03:27] <TheManiacKY> exit
[03:27] <Canucky> but its fun
[03:28] <Falcongrinder> I re-installed ark and unrar-free and I still get this. The utility unrar is not in your PATH.
[03:28] <Falcongrinder> Please install it or contact your system administrator.
[03:28] <Sivik> crimsun, that gave me the same error
[03:28] <zenmonk> Bird: I am not sure there is 1 for terminal, but gparted works well
[03:28] <i_am_the_pwn> rouben: haven't run top, or anything like that, but i can see how my antiquated gpu could be causing problems
[03:28] <Bird> thanks
[03:28] <Falcongrinder> anyone else have this problem?
[03:28] <lostboyz> hi how do i make my old home folder my new home folder? i am a suse transplant
[03:28] <Flannel> lostboyz: just edit your fstab to mount your old one in plcae
[03:28] <orbin> it's spamming and it's offtopic
[03:28] <lostboyz> oh great thank you
[03:28] <synjet> Falcongrinder: you could install, yet cant access due to non-admin probs?
[03:29] <lostboyz> also i was wondering why is not sound working?
[03:29] <rredd4> is there a way to see full screen vids using firefox?
[03:29] <lostboyz> i try to play a mp3 but it doesn't star
[03:29] <lostboyz> i am using xubuntu
[03:29] <Falcongrinder> i installed thru the synaptic package manager
[03:29] <rouben> i_am_the_pwn: hehe, i see. Unfortunately X is quite sensitive to slow GPUs, in part due to its inefficient design and in part due to 99% of all drivers for X being software
[03:29] <synjet> rredd4: mplayer or flash?
[03:29] <Bird> Is their anyway I can get a friends I.P. address from a email they send me?
[03:29] <ladydoor> lostboyz: is your old home dir on a separate partition
[03:29] <lostboyz> yes
[03:29] <lostboyz> it is ladydoor
[03:29] <zenmonk> lostboyz: did u download codecs for mp3?
[03:29] <rredd4> synjet mplayer  (online vids)
[03:29] <Sivik> Bird: yes
[03:29] <lostboyz> oh no
[03:29] <lostboyz> how do i do that
[03:30] <Bird> Sivik
[03:30] <Flannel> !tell lostboyz about mp3
[03:30] <Sivik> Bird: its rather difficult though
[03:30] <lostboyz> sorry i thought it was in already
[03:30] <Bird> How would I do it?
[03:30] <ladydoor> lostboyz: you need to adding it to the fstab, probably
[03:30] <synjet> rredd4: right click, and say full-screen
[03:30] <ladydoor> lostboyz: *add it, rather
[03:30] <i_am_the_pwn> rouben: well, that explains much. just ran top and everything seems to be fine (averaging about 12 percent cpu load)
[03:30] <synjet> rredd4: firefox-mplayer plugin allows me that
[03:30] <Bird> Sivik: How would I go about doing it?
[03:30] <Sivik> has anyone been having problems with the flashplugin-nonfree
[03:30] <rredd4> synjet using the mozilla plug in   do not see full screen...
[03:30] <Sivik> Bird: google it
[03:30] <zenmonk> lostboyz: see this page http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[03:31] <Bird> Sivik: I have.
[03:31] <Mouse> How are you doing?
[03:31] <Flannel> lostboyz: ubotu sent you a link, read it ;)  no need to use ubuntuguide
[03:31] <rredd4> synjet  i am using the firefox mozilla plugin
[03:31] <rouben> i_am_the_pwn: just to illustrate, when i was running the nv driver on my box with an nVidia Gefore4, my memory usage was around 500megs. When I switched to the binary driver, the memory usage almost went down 50%
[03:31] <synjet> rredd4: no idea whats wrong with your setup, it works for me :)
[03:31] <Sivik> Bird: i know there is a way to do it, but i'm not sure how
[03:31] <Sivik> Bird: i don't do much hacking
[03:31] <rouben> my guess is the nv driver used regular system ram instead of video ram! :(
[03:31] <lostboyz> yes i was also curious i tried both ubuntu and xubuntu but my res is still like 640x 480 i am using 19 in monitor dell lcd and there are no options to change it can i copy my old suse xorg.conf and rewrite it in the X11 folder?
[03:31] <i_am_the_pwn> rouben: wow.
[03:31] <rredd4> synjet ok, maybe i will reinstall
[03:31] <Bird> Sivik: Its not hacking but thanks anyways.
[03:31] <crimsun> Sivik: apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree |grep Candidate
[03:31] <Falcongrinder> anyone? ark?
[03:31] <rouben> so yeah, drivers make a big diff
[03:31] <alex222> hey where can i get this? Make sure you have the Gecko SDK installed.??
[03:31] <synjet> rredd4: no no.. I didnt mean that
[03:32] <rouben> especially if you run something heavyweight, like KDE or gnome
[03:32] <rouben> i_am_the_pwn: have you considered xfce? might be just what your laptop needs :)
[03:32] <Sivik> crimsun: ok
[03:32] <rouben> i_am_the_pwn: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop, I believe
[03:32] <kitche> Bird: cfdisk, fdisk if you wanted a partitioner still
[03:32] <i_am_the_pwn> rouben: consider it considered, my friend
[03:32] <crimsun> Sivik: meaning, tell me the output
[03:32] <twysted`> hey guys can someone help me with a routing issue with multipul providers?
[03:32] <rredd4> synjet how can i check my setup then?
[03:32] <Flannel> !tell lostboyz about fixres
[03:32] <Sivik> crimsun: 7.8.68~ubuntu1~dapper1
[03:32] <Sivik> crimsun, i figured as such
[03:32] <rouben> i_am_the_pwn: well, give it a spin. if you want a preview, check the ubuntu website
[03:33] <orbin> lostboyz: yes, or you could follow this: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:33] <orbin> bah, too late :-/
[03:33] <i_am_the_pwn> rouben:thank you much
[03:33] <synjet> rredd4: tried this? http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Multimedia_Player_.28Mplayer.29_with_plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[03:33] <i_am_the_pwn> rouben: auf Wiedersehen
[03:33] <rredd4> ok
[03:33] <lostboyz> thank you Flannel
[03:33] <Sivik> crimsun, what should i try to fix that
[03:34] <crimsun> Sivik: that's the old package.
[03:34] <crimsun> Sivik: your mirror hasn't synced yet
[03:34] <Sivik> ok
[03:34] <sklav> anybody know of a good web developement IDE in Ubuntu?
[03:35] <lupine_85> kate? :p
[03:35] <lupine_85> or gedit?
[03:35] <Flannel> sklav: any text editor ;)
[03:35] <Sivik> crimsun, ok, then what do i need to try to do, get a different mirror?
[03:35] <sklav> hehe
[03:35] <sklav> that i know
[03:35] <sklav> but im getting lazy with age
[03:35] <lupine_85> nVu for html, I suppose
[03:35] <lupine_85> !nvu
[03:35] <ubotu> nvu: Complete Web Authoring System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 8343 kB, installed size 26440 kB
[03:35] <sklav> i use vim usually
[03:35] <Flannel> sklav: nvu is a WYSIWYG
[03:35] <synjet> sklav: tried nvu?
[03:35] <CodeBot> me ftw
[03:35] <CodeBot> !ftw
[03:35] <sklav> nope but i will
[03:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ftw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:35] <lupine_85> snap, crackle...
[03:35] <crimsun> Sivik: sure
[03:36] <Sivik> crimsun, could you give me a mirror that would have a good version of it?
[03:36] <lostboyz> is it ok to copy and paste the suse xorg.conf file or would that cause inconsistencies?
[03:36] <BlueEagle> !info gnomemeeting
[03:36] <ubotu> Package gnomemeeting does not exist in any distro I know
[03:36] <Flannel> !ekiga
[03:36] <ubotu> ekiga: Free Your Speech. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.1-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 3572 kB, installed size 12188 kB
[03:36] <synjet> !gnomemeeting>BlueEagle
[03:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnomemeeting - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:37] <ladydoor> !paste
[03:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:37] <ladydoor> lostboyz: ^
[03:37] <lostboyz> i dunno what ^ is sorry
[03:37] <Flannel> gnomemeeting has been renamed ekiga
[03:37] <lostboyz> ladydoor
[03:37] <ladydoor> lostboyz: it means "look up"
[03:37] <crimsun> Sivik: archive.ubuntu.com
[03:37] <synjet> ladydoor: he was asking if using suse xorg would cause probs, I think
[03:37] <Sivik> thats what it is already as
[03:37] <rredd4> synjet it says      mozilla-mplayer is already the newest version
[03:37] <spuddogg> Has anyone ever seen an error like this?  Makefile.inc:124: *** Cannot determine kernel architecture, please check /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build/.config.  Stop.
[03:37] <ladydoor> synjet: the actual question was about pasting a whole xorg.conf to the channel
[03:38] <synjet> rredd4: what does right-clicking on the video do?
[03:38] <synjet> ladydoor: oh, my bad
[03:38] <ladydoor> synjet: no worries
[03:38] <spuddogg> ladydoor, nice to see you :)
[03:38] <Sivik> crimsun, thats how my sources.list is already set
[03:38] <ladydoor> spuddogg: hello. you too
[03:39] <Sivik> crimsun, ok, i just got an E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 esource temporarily unavailable)
[03:39] <bruenig> Sivik, close synaptic or update manager if they are open
[03:39] <Sivik> nvm, figured it out
[03:40] <Sivik> still doesn't fix the error with the flashplugin-nofree
[03:40] <spuddogg> ladydoor, have you ever seen an error like this? Makefile.inc:124: *** Cannot determine kernel architecture, please check /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build/.config.
[03:40] <alex222> hey can sombody help me??
[03:40] <alex222> Type ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla/libxpcom.so /usr/lib
[03:40] <alex222> Restart Opera.
[03:40] <ladydoor> spuddogg: nope...i'm sorry
[03:40] <alex222> when i do that it says command not found
[03:40] <alex222> -s /usr/lib/mozilla/libxpcom.so /usr/lib
[03:40] <spuddogg> ladydoor, ok, thanks anyway
[03:42] <jrib> alex222: opera says that?
[03:42] <thread> wow ok I've narrowed down my problem. When my partition table looks like this: http://threadbox.net/fdisk.txt windows pukes all over itself very early in boot: http://threadbox.net/bsodthx.jpg but when I delete the latter 3 of my 4 partitions, I find windows boots up just fine! (I've found that I can easily use testdisk to salvage my partition table.)
[03:42] <alex222> jrib, im trying to install a plugin
[03:42] <knixtech> can anyone help me setup mysql?
[03:42] <Flannel> !tell knixtech about lamp
[03:42] <alex222> and that's the instructions
[03:42] <Flannel> knixtech: that'll walk you through it ;) if you just want mysql, sans the php/apache etc stuff, just ignore the other bits ;)
[03:43] <knixtech> Flannel, i have that installed, i cant create the root user
[03:43] <synjet> alex222: trying to get real songs working embedded?
[03:43] <alex222> no
[03:43] <Flannel> knixtech: that page covers it, or you having problems with those commands even?
[03:43] <alex222> http://www.opera.com/linux/docs/plugins/install/ - mplayer
[03:43] <alex222> synjet
[03:43] <knixtech> Flannel, i didnt see the link
[03:43] <bam_> hi. Does anyone know why I cant get kdesu to work properly? all I get is an error with "kdesu: Don't need password!!" and a couple of other lines in it.
[03:43] <Flannel> knixtech: check your PM from ubotu
[03:44] <knixtech> o
[03:44] <kitche> knixtech: well there is a root user already for mysql I had to point many users to a root reset for mysql
[03:44] <knixtech> nice
[03:44] <Sivik> ok, now i'm getting issues with mdadm
[03:44] <jojoman02> what is a good dvd ripping program to save to xvid/divx and mp3 (for audio)
[03:44] <Samuli^> how did you auth yourself on this network?
[03:44] <CodeBot> !ati
[03:44] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:44] <CodeBot> thx
[03:44] <jrib> alex222: are you sure you typed the whole thing: ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla/libxpcom.so /usr/lib     ?
[03:44] <Sivik> Samuli^, "/nickserv identify
[03:44] <lostboyz> i think i need to install the fglrx driver for xubuntu how do i do that?
[03:44] <Sivik> without the "
[03:44] <Samuli^> Sivik, thanks.
[03:44] <Sivik> Samuli^, yw
[03:44] <knixtech> kitche, i was just following the directions that the ubuntu server guide had
[03:45] <Samuli^> sweet.
[03:45] <knixtech> i keep getting access denied
[03:45] <synjet> alex222: oh ok, got it to work with ff?
[03:45] <alex222> uhh i dunno
[03:45] <kitche> knixtech: well I know after they did a mysql root reset mysql started to work fine for them think the packager hs a root password already set for mysql
[03:45] <alex222> i dont use firefox
[03:45] <alex222> it's sucks in my opinion
[03:45] <Sivik> alex222, what do you use?
[03:45] <knixtech> kitche, ty
[03:45] <alex222> i like opera.. trying to get all the plugins working
[03:46] <Sivik> alex222, why don't you like firefox?
[03:46] <synjet> alex222: opera rocks, no doubt :)
[03:46] <knixtech> kitche, Flannel ty, i think i got it
[03:46] <Sivik> alex222, its 800 times better than Internet Exploder
[03:46] <ninjakttty> I've got a weird problem, anytime I try to use something with opengl, it only displays 1/2 of what its supposed to, can someone point me in the right direction of what to do?
[03:46] <synjet> Sivik: I doubt those stats, but opera is faster than FF (before we get offtopic) :)
[03:46] <Sivik> now i'm getting all kinds of errors when i run sudo apt-get upgrade or sudo apt-get -f install
[03:47] <Sivik> synjet: i know opera is faster than FF but their both better then IE
[03:47] <Roger_The_Bum> I just installed vncserver and fogot the password
[03:47] <Sivik> synacktion, i was just making a point
[03:47] <Roger_The_Bum> any way I can reset the pw?
[03:47] <alex222> ahh did anyone get the divx plugin working with opera??
[03:47] <_tom_> dillo is better than firefox and opera ;D
[03:48] <Sivik> wtf is dillo?
[03:48] <kitche> Roger_The_Bum: check vncserver's config it should be in there
[03:48] <synjet> _tom_ lynx? :P
[03:48] <_tom_> actually im using ff, opera, and dillo :)
[03:48] <Woosta> Is there any way to find out how a package was compiled? eg I need to know if spidermonkey was compiled with JS_THREADSAFE or not ..
[03:48] <kitche> Sivik: a light-weight browser that was made by w3c
[03:48] <ninjakttty> I have a screenshot to show what I mean http://www.ninjakitty.net/yuri/bitbucket/video.png
[03:48] <grouchytim_> hey _tom_ i'm back
[03:48] <_tom_> a little browser synjet
[03:48] <Sivik> kitche, does it have tab ability
[03:48] <synjet> tom: make sure you dont typo when you use dillo ;)
[03:48] <grouchytim_> but i don't really have any issues any more
[03:48] <grouchytim_> i'm on xchat finally and i'ts nice
[03:48] <CodeBot> !butt secks
[03:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about butt secks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:48] <lostboyz> what is a good firewall for ubuntu? i hear it doesn't come with one
[03:48] <lostboyz> and how do i update the system?
[03:48] <CodeBot> WHAT
[03:48] <jrib> !firewall
[03:48] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[03:48] <nbjayme> hello, we have ubuntu and winXP workstations.  Any cross-platform backup solutions that anybody know of?
[03:48] <_tom_> nice to hear grouchytim
[03:48] <kitche> Sivik: maybe I know some pages won't load right due to how it works
[03:48] <CodeBot> HAHAHA
[03:48] <CodeBot> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAHHA!!!!!!!!!!
[03:48] <grouchytim_> now i'll leave you alone
[03:49] <synjet> CodeBot: pllease dont abuse
[03:49] <grouchytim_> thanx for all the help though
[03:50] <jrib> lostboyz: when there are updates available and orange icon will show up in your notification area in the panel telling you about the upgrades.  You can then click on it and update your system.  (Or you can use synaptic)
[03:50] <jrib> lostboyz: s/and/an
[03:50] <lostboyz> oh thanks
[03:50] <lostboyz> s/ and /an what is that?
[03:50] <jrib> lostboyz: substitute "and" with "an"    because I made a typo
[03:50] <lostboyz> i am using xubuntu so it is different i found it thanks
[03:50] <lostboyz> oh
[03:50] <lostboyz> i see
[03:51] <lostboyz> i think xubuntu is too new because there are only 60 users there and no one answer my questions
[03:51] <PoisonedV> Hello
[03:51] <lostboyz> but at least my system is flying :D
[03:51] <jrib> lostboyz: help.ubuntu.com has a starter guide that should let you know how to do general things in xubuntu
[03:51] <CodeBot> lol
[03:52] <lostboyz> oh sweet thanks
[03:52] <_tom_> lostboyz, if youwant a firewall, try firestarter
[03:52] <lostboyz> thank
[03:52] <lostboyz> you
[03:52] <mirf> why?
[03:52] <tritium> CodeBot: why?
[03:52] <rastaman> i like ubuntu
[03:53] <sklav> CodeBot, that is almost offensive ;)
[03:53] <rastaman> first night trying it out
[03:53] <CodeBot> I dunno I've only ever used ubuntu
[03:53] <PoisonedV> Can I have some help in ubuntu? I orded some of the free discs, booted, etc. and got to intalling it. On the screen where it said stuff like "erase whole hard drive", I clicked the first option and it had a slider. I definatly don't want to delete my whole harddrive, but I want to know what that one does.
[03:53] <lostboyz> what is a command line irc chat in ubuntu that is good
[03:53] <lostboyz> in case my X system crashes
[03:53] <lostboyz> because i am gonna pimp it out to the linux gods now
[03:53] <yanger> when i am in a screen process, backspace does not work, how to adjust? TERM= ?
[03:53] <rastaman> bitchx is a good cli irc client
[03:53] <ladydoor> lostboyz: irssi is good, a lot of people like bitchx
[03:53] <lostboyz> yeah but i search for bitchx
[03:53] <lostboyz> and it was not there
[03:54] <jrib> !info bitchx
[03:54] <ubotu> bitchx: Advanced Internet Relay Chat client. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1-4 (dapper), package size 1467 kB, installed size 6476 kB
[03:54] <Laptop765> hey, somewhat new to linux here, tried out ubuntu on recommendation of a lot of people and love it lots [wiping my windows partition soon]
[03:54] <jrib> ubotu: tell lostboyz about universe
[03:54] <Laptop765> anyone know how to disable the alt-left-click moving a window?
[03:54] <troy> what username and password is cups asking for at localhost:631 --?
[03:54] <kitche> lostboyz: big B and big X
[03:54] <pink1> I installed Dapper on a MacBook Pro and now I can't hold Ctrl and right-click with it.  How do I right-click now?
[03:54] <lostboyz> oh thank you
[03:54] <lostboyz> haha
[03:54] <CodeBot> sklav lol sorry
[03:54] <kitche> troy: root password
[03:55] <motin_> What's a good, stable/reliable, multi-threaded, smart ftp-client in the GNU/Linux world? I have been running kftpgrabber a while but it is far too buggy
[03:55] <troy> kitche: does that mean I have to create a root password to do this?
[03:55] <coder___> Is it possible to have CDs or a DVD holding packages and use Synaptic/apt to use it as an APT Repository?
[03:55] <kitche> troy: it should accept the user username and password not sure if it will work but cups usually goes by root info
[03:55] <_tom_> hehe, i think in some distribution (SUSE maybe? ) bitchx was marked as potentially unsuitable, because of the cussword in it ;)
[03:55] <coder___> My friend has no internet connection on one of his PCs and wants to install Ubuntu on it.
[03:55] <mirf> I can only access one of my soundcards
[03:55] <sklav> CodeBot, ive tried them all and to be honest they are more or less the same but if you must try fedora cause most of the others are a bit of a let down
[03:55] <ladydoor> troy: you can use sudo, or if you want to be root you can do sudo -i, which emulates logging in as root
[03:55] <lupine_85> Yet SuSE carried the (unmodified) fortune?
[03:55] <mirf> onboard (primary) works but I cna't get anythign from my pci card
[03:55] <sklav> openSuSe is ok but i find it slow
[03:56] <CodeBot> ok sklav
[03:56] <_tom_> lupine_85, dunno, but it was funny :)
[03:56] <sklav> Ubuntu is still your first thought and most likely memorable
[03:56] <RagePrblm> Can someone help me out with Flash Player for firefox
[03:56] <kitche> ladydoor: he's connecting to cups he wouldn't use sudo for that
[03:56] <mirf> RagePrblm, I found I had to download and install manually
[03:56] <jrib> RagePrblm: just installing it?
[03:57] <din> anyone know where i can get a repo for mpd-svn?
[03:57] <troy> ladydoor: cups stinks, it's a web based admin tool so no sudo :/
[03:57] <pink1> Is there a way to add a shortcut to right clicking?  Like holding down Ctrl and left-clicking will be interpreted by Ubuntu as a right-click?
[03:57] <RagePrblm> I just installed it via the terminal with sudo, and the files did get installed into the /usr/lib/mozilla directory, but flash doesnt work in the firefox browser
[03:57] <ladydoor> kitche: ok, so sudo elinks/w3m/links/lynx, go to the url
[03:57] <ladydoor> *shrug*
[03:57] <sklav> RagePrblm, type about:plugins in firefox
[03:57] <RagePrblm> ok
[03:57] <ladydoor> kitche: anyway, i need to go to that whole "real life" thing. good luck!
[03:57] <sklav> see if flash is listed
[03:58] <RagePrblm> It says no plugins are installed....Grrr!
[03:58] <jrib> RagePrblm: did you close all instances of firefox and then open it again?
[03:58] <RagePrblm> Yes, I can try reinstalling
[03:58] <kitche> ladydoor: lol I m watching a show on discovery right now not really paying much attention to irc
[03:58] <sklav> RagePrblm, problem might be related to mozilla plugins directory
[03:58] <CodeBot> Kubuntu live cd?
[03:58] <sklav> im guessing it installed under mozilla/plugins
[03:58] <RagePrblm> let me check
[03:58] <sklav> you might be missing a simlink
[03:58] <CodeBot> :O
[03:59] <Samuli^> kitche, are you impliying that watching tv is real life? :)
[03:59] <bruenig> RagePrblm, ls /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[03:59] <Dink> i see you are in here... good place to ask questions and learn a bit :)
[03:59] <RagePrblm> flash would not let me install to that dir
[03:59] <kitche> Samuli^: well it's about a house in the next town from me
[03:59] <CodeBot> lol @ ur internet
[03:59] <CodeBot> NOW!
[03:59] <sklav> RagePrblm, did you use sudo?
[03:59] <bruenig> RagePrblm, that is where the plugins are, get it in there
[03:59] <RagePrblm> yes sir
[03:59] <sklav> if not you dont have permissions
[03:59] <RagePrblm> ok let me try again
[03:59] <Laptop765> does anyone know a way to disable alt-left click [and right click for that matter]  from manipulating the window?  i'm trying to get some games running under wine and  i need the use of the alt button
[04:00] <Samuli^> kitche, okay.
[04:00] <jrib> bruenig: though both work, I think /usr/lib/firefox/plugins is suppose to be used now
[04:00] <bruenig> jrib, I have always used the other one. But they are in both and are symlinked in my .mozilla directory just to be sure
[04:00] <Roger_The_Bum> where are the vncserver config files
[04:00] <ziro01> out of interest
[04:01] <cyberfr0g> private
[04:01] <Roger_The_Bum>  /etc/vncserver ?
[04:02] <RagePrblm> the installer says that /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins is not a valid installation dir
[04:02] <ludedeeds> dern, jack_sparrow is gone
[04:02] <RagePrblm> neither is /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[04:02] <bruenig> RagePrblm, can you cd into those directories?
[04:02] <RagePrblm> yet when I check the dir the two files needed ARE in the usr/lib/mozilla/plugins dir
[04:02] <ludedeeds> RagePrblm: you trying to install flash?
[04:02] <RagePrblm> oh wait
[04:02] <bruenig> RagePrblm, just copy the flashplayer.xpt and libflashplayer.so over
[04:02] <RagePrblm> no its not
[04:02] <bruenig> unzip it and copy those over
[04:03] <RagePrblm> ok ill try
[04:03] <lostboyz> how do you test a xorg file without restarting?
[04:03] <RagePrblm> bruenig:  to which dir the mozilla-firefox one or just the mozilla one
[04:03] <ludedeeds> RagePrblm: if so... just stop trying to sudo it, just run it as normal user
[04:03] <mkquist> anyone have any idea why gnome wont start, just keeps going back to login screen???
[04:03] <lostboyz> i am thinking your xorg file is misconfigured
[04:03] <kitche> mkquist: errors might help a bit check your Xorg.0.log should be in /var/log
[04:03] <bruenig> RagePrblm, mozilla-firefox/plugins and the firefox/plugins dir per jribs suggestion
[04:04] <ludedeeds> RagePrblm: if you simply do ./flash-installer, it should autodetect firefox directory
[04:04] <bruenig> ludedeeds, he said it wasn't
[04:04] <mkquist> kithe - k ill take a looksee
[04:04] <[Anna] >  FUCK HELLDRAGON EVERY NIGHT LOL !                       Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:06] <Roger_The_Bum> I think there was this one script that I did
[04:06] <christel> thats quite alright sklav :)
[04:07] <Roger_The_Bum> it lets you sudo in nautilus
[04:07] <bruenig> RagePrblm, ok, well if you don't want to use the terminal to cp the files over, just do gksudo nautilus in the terminal to get a root file manager that will allow you to copy over the files with the gui
[04:07] <RagePrblm> Ok thank you
[04:07] <Roger_The_Bum> that works too
[04:08] <Laptop765> >	does anyone know a way to disable alt-left click [and right click for that matter]  from manipulating the window? i'm trying to get some games running under wine and i need the use of the alt button
[04:08] <ludedeeds> i got a job at Dell today.. now it's time to start up a computer reselling business =P
[04:08] <sklav> ludedeeds, im in
[04:08] <sklav> need a partner?
[04:09] <ludedeeds> sklav: mayhap, i haven't really decided yet what i'm going to do.. i might not even really have time
[04:09] <bruenig> ludedeeds, make sure you put my way search assistant on all of the computers you sell
[04:09] <pink1> Is there a way to add a shortcut to right clicking?  Like holding down Ctrl and left-clicking will be interpreted by Ubuntu as a right-click?
[04:09] <peruano> hi guys
[04:09] <Roger_The_Bum> hey it works :D
[04:09] <Roger_The_Bum> thanks
[04:09] <ludedeeds> bruenig: rofl.. what for?
[04:09] <jazzrocker> hehehe, each of their computers only costs them like $3.67 in raw materials an $0.02 for cheap foreign labor
[04:09] <sklav> Laptop765,  under preferences "keyboard shortcuts"
[04:09] <jazzrocker> so it's not like you're really ripping them off by stealing their computers :P
[04:09] <sklav> Laptop765,  system under preferences "keyboard shortcuts"
[04:09] <bruenig> dell puts that on all of their computers and makes it impossible to uninstall
[04:10] <RagePrblm> Thanks guys! It worked! Geniuses is what you are!
[04:10] <Laptop765> i see one for move screen is alt-f7
[04:10] <sklav> remove it
[04:10] <sklav> and then it wont affect you
[04:10] <bruenig> RagePrblm, now you will get to watch out of sync flash vidoes, hoorah
[04:10] <Laptop765> that will get rid of the mouse too?
[04:10] <sklav> but remember what you change
[04:10] <RagePrblm> Frikkin aye!
[04:10] <joshmoz> is there a way to download a pre-release version of the Ubuntu release coming out next month, one I can install via CD, and if possible can just package update to the release?
[04:10] <RagePrblm> brb
[04:10] <myatthu> RagePrblm, i suggest you get to know sudo very well ... you need to use it alot ..
[04:10] <sklav> i think it would
[04:11] <bruenig> joshmoz, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/edgy/knot-3/
[04:11] <sklav> try it and see
[04:11] <looktj> anyone have serial for vmware?
[04:11] <bon> i just got a freeview box and i can only get 5 chanels i have a winfast pvr using cox cable to connect them - and kdetv tryed tvtime as well
[04:11] <sklav> looktj, they are free
[04:11] <ludedeeds> bruenig: i mainly took the job for all the discounts and mass availability of all the OEM software i can cram down my pants
[04:11] <joshmoz> bruenig: thanks! for future reference, how did you find that page without having to ask?
[04:11] <sklav> in the download section they ask how many you need
[04:11] <Laptop765> it seemed like it messed upt the game
[04:11] <mkquist> kitche - any ideas what i might be looking for?
[04:11] <Laptop765> but that might be becasue i'm in it now
[04:11] <Laptop765> i'll look into it
[04:11] <Laptop765> thanks
[04:12] <sklav> np
[04:12] <ludedeeds> not to mention the benefits of working for a fortune 25 company
[04:12] <kitche> mkquist: any errors should eb toward the end of the log
[04:12] <joshmoz> bruenig: and what is a "knot" - what does that mean?
[04:12] <bruenig> joshmoz, I went to this great site kind of underground right now but I think it will be big, called google. Then typed "knot 3 download"
[04:12] <bruenig> clicked the first link and voila
[04:12] <Sivik> i'm tired of this stupid issue with flashplugin-nonfree
[04:13] <mkquist> !pastebin
[04:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:13] <bruenig> joshmoz, apparently efts have knots on their head and because the next version is called edgy eft, they are calling thier betas knots
[04:13] <bruenig> dapper drake had flights
[04:13] <peruano> anybody knows how to desintall the ubuntu O/S, but the problem is, i got 2 more windows O/S on my pc, and i just installed ubuntu, but when i restart the pc i got this message : grub loadind  ,   error 21, and ain't got nothing, so now i running ubuntu with the CD live
[04:13] <looktj> sivik: system -> adminstratation -> software properties
[04:13] <bruenig> as a drake is a bird
[04:13] <joshmoz> bruenig: ahh, thanks
[04:13] <krazykit> peruano: load up a windows CD, go to the recovery console, and do fixmbr
[04:13] <sklav> peruano, you need to install the windows boot loader again
[04:13] <Sivik> looktj, doesn't work if i don't have kde or gone installed there
[04:14] <krazykit> peruano: or maybe it's fixboot
[04:14] <nalioth> joshmoz: the release names are plurals of the animal release name.  "A knot of efts", "a flight of drakes", etc
[04:14] <sklav> which version of windows?
[04:14] <minerale> I'm about to install ubuntu on a windows pc, will I be able to resize the windows partition?
[04:14] <Sivik> what is mdadm
[04:14] <krazykit> peruano: something like that
[04:14] <Sivik> minerale, no
[04:14] <looktj> oh
[04:14] <bon> does anyone know how to setup up freeview with tv card
[04:14] <krazykit> minerale: yes
[04:14] <Sivik> looktj, command line
[04:14] <bon> i just got a freeview box and i can only get 5 chanels i have a winfast pvr using cox cable to connect them - and kdetv tryed tvtime as well
[04:14] <rshadarack> hey guys, is there someone in here that could help me get my wireless working with ubuntu?  I'm a new user and it's not detecting the network
[04:14] <peruano> thanks, i gonna try it now
[04:14] <krazykit> Sivik: it resizes ntfs partitions just fine, really
[04:14] <bruenig> minerale, yes, defragment first makes it a bit more reliable
[04:14] <mkquist> kitche - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24306 - dont suppose u could have a looksee?
[04:14] <Sivik> krazykit, i have never had any luck with it
[04:14] <spuddogg> Anyone here know about packet injection?
[04:15] <krazykit> minerale: make sure to back up anything important, too.
[04:15] <Sivik> i'm tired of everything not working tonight
[04:15] <sklav> spuddogg, whne i eat to many packs of gum?
[04:15] <Sivik> all i was trying to do is upgrade some packages and now there are all kinds of errors
[04:15] <lastnode> bruenig, er, knot is the collective noun for newts (a knot of newts), and an eft is a young newet.
[04:15] <spuddogg> sklav, exactly what i meant (extreme sarcasm)
[04:15] <lastnode> *newt even
[04:15] <sklav> spuddogg, hehe
[04:15] <spuddogg> lol
[04:15] <rawrness> anyone know any good p2ps?
[04:15] <bruenig> lastnode, I was just repeating what I read, as is why I said apparently. I have no idea
[04:16] <kitche> mkquist: hmm don't see any major errors
[04:16] <sklav> packet injection sounds familiar care to explain?
[04:16] <Sivik> why is there an error with mdadm?
[04:16] <myatthu> rawrness, i am using azureus
[04:16] <kitche> mkquist: might be a pam issue though
[04:16] <lastnode> bruenig, cool, it was just fyi
[04:16] <minerale> whoa, all the mirrors I keep trying to download from are so slow
[04:16] <Sivik> i'm having all kinds of issues with dpkg
[04:16] <rawrness> azureus thats torrents right?
[04:16] <myatthu> yup
[04:16] <spuddogg> sklav, well, its more or less for active attacks in an attempt to hack a 802.11 network
[04:16] <mkquist> pam?
[04:17] <sklav> i see
[04:17] <mkquist> kitche - pam?
[04:17] <sklav> i wish i knew more
[04:17] <Sivik> can someone help me get around some erros with dpkg and mdadm
[04:17] <sklav> free internet would be sweet
[04:17] <rshadarack> can anyone help a me with activating my wireless card?  it doesn't seem to be finding the network I have properly
[04:17] <Sivik> rshadarack, what brand card?
[04:17] <rshadarack> BCM4306, Broadcom
[04:17] <Sivik> try #bcm-users
[04:17] <Sivik> rshadarack, what is it doing?
[04:17] <bruenig> If a knot is a group of efts, then shouldn't dapper's been called flocks
[04:17] <rshadarack> Thanks
[04:18] <spuddogg> sklav, it is REALLY quite interesting and fun.  If you have a laptop and about $70 to burn on an Atheros card, do it man.  Just don't get malicious :)
[04:18] <kitche> mkquist: it's a different type of encryption when loging in and such
[04:18] <konfuzed> hey there, i just started havin some really strange behaviour with this 6.06 system. it was installed about the same week that 6.06 came out but lightly used.
[04:18] <sklav> spuddogg, im interested more for security reasons
[04:18] <lostboyz> hi how do i edit the fstab to mount my old home folder on different partition to new home folder?
[04:18] <Sivik> konfuzed, i'm having all kinds of issues with dpkg and mdadm tonight
[04:18] <sklav> i like security
[04:18] <sklav> and like to know ways people might crack me or a company and try to prevent it
[04:19] <Sivik> sklav: have you had any problems installing or upgrading stuff today?
[04:19] <bruenig> lostboyz, you have two home folders one on a different partition?
[04:19] <sklav> Sivik, none at all
[04:19] <spuddogg> sklav, thats another thing...i have learned soooo much in my ventures of late.  i am starting to get a little paranoid though.  for example, i swore to myself i would never log into my bank again while on a wireless network
[04:19] <Sivik> sklav: lucky
[04:19] <bruenig> each on a different partition*
[04:19] <sklav> i upgraded just before i came on irc
[04:19] <Sivik> i wish i could figure out what was going on
[04:19] <sklav> spuddogg, i could have mentionned that
[04:19] <konfuzed> I was playin a new DVD for my daughter and it would not play the disc, then I got it to play the disc with VLC but about halfd way through the seond episode on the disc, the video stops, vlc starts playing the radio and then the cd becomes umounted
[04:19] <sklav> its broadcasting
[04:19] <dren> Hello. I just installed Ubuntu (6.06) and I created the user and pass of "root" and "root" (both the same) and now I can't log into ubuntu when it starts up. What do I do?
[04:19] <lostboyz> bruenig
[04:20] <lostboyz> yes
[04:20] <lostboyz> i do
[04:20] <konfuzed> so I lieft it for like  2 hours to put my daughter to bed.
[04:20] <lostboyz> one from my old suse
[04:20] <sklav> dren, what was the user name you created??
[04:20] <dren> "root" (no quotes)
[04:20] <sklav> root cannot log in from the graphic login screen
[04:20] <lostboyz> box and new one is from new xubuntu
[04:20] <kitche> dren: well that's why ubuntu uses sudo so you sorta broke your system
[04:20] <lostboyz> install
[04:20] <bruenig> lostboyz, ok, does the suse folder have your the same username folder as that might pose a problem
[04:20] <Sivik> sklav: when i run a apt-get upgrade i get a bunch of dependance errors and then when i run apt-get -f install it screws up with some dpkg and mdadm
[04:20] <sklav> dreen root is created automatically
[04:20] <dren> lmfao, serious?
[04:20] <myatthu> dren, root account is disabled by default on ubuntu ... and for the record pls pls pls never create an account called root on any linux distros when you are installing
[04:20] <dren> See I didn't know this :]
[04:20] <konfuzed> now the following message just keep scrolling up the page; busy inodes on changed media
[04:20] <lostboyz> no
[04:20] <dren> so.
[04:21] <Flannel> dren: besides, there's already a root user
[04:21] <lostboyz> should i add the user name
[04:21] <dren> Reinstall? :P
[04:21] <konfuzed> how do I stop busy inodes on changed media ??
[04:21] <pink1> Is there a way to add a shortcut to right clicking?  Like holding down Ctrl and left-clicking will be interpreted by Ubuntu as a right-click?
[04:21] <sklav> Sivik, did you try flushing your cache?
[04:21] <kitche> dren: your best bet would be a reinstall
[04:21] <lostboyz> bruenig should i still be old user?
[04:21] <dren> k, thanks :)
[04:21] <dren> [/idiot noob]
[04:21] <cafemocha> hello, can anyone tell me the best reference to help me get my Linksys PCMCIA 54G card working with XUBUNTU 6.0.6?
[04:21] <sklav> konfuzed, you or some app is accessing a partition that is no longer mounted
[04:21] <lostboyz> bruenig should i add old user name? or keep new user name?
[04:21] <Sivik> sklav: how do i do that?
[04:21] <spuddogg> cafemocha, ndiswrapper
[04:21] <konfuzed> so I try ctrl-alt-F3 but the system does not change the tty
[04:21] <bruenig> lostboyz, I don't think it is a good idea to try to mount the other home folder instead. Why not copy over the stuff you want from the old home folder. There are bound to be some issues doing it the way you are trying
[04:21] <sklav> Sivik, 1 sec let me open a terminal
[04:21] <minerale> dren: first time for everything... we all were linux newbies at one point
[04:21] <lostboyz> oh ok
[04:22] <konfuzed> i suppose the VLC or something is still trying to access the cd-rom for some reason
[04:22] <lostboyz> but i don't have enough space
[04:22] <lostboyz> my new partition is only 10 gb
[04:22] <lostboyz> the other home partition is 220 gb
[04:22] <knixtech> alright guys, my webserv is up with a fresh install, but outside people cannot get to it
[04:22] <myatthu> lostboyz, my whole drive is 40 g
[04:22] <myatthu> lol
[04:22] <sklav> sudo apt-get clean all i think
[04:22] <konfuzed> sklav, ok so now how do I stop this message from repeating it sefl so that I can do something abot the problem ?
[04:22] <Flannel> lostboyz: you could always mount your other one inside this one, or ditch the small one and just use the big one
[04:22] <bruenig> lostboyz. Why not just mount the other partition but not as the home folder and then just use it for storage
[04:23] <myatthu> knixtech, first .. check ya firewall ... second does your ISPo block port 80 ? mine does
[04:23] <mkquist> anyone familiar w/reseting the xserver config?
[04:23] <lostboyz> Flannel how do i do that?
[04:23] <sklav> konfuzed, you have any terminal open?
[04:23] <lostboyz> bruenig i want to use old one for home
[04:23] <sklav> or file browser?
[04:23] <Sivik> still having a problem with the flashplugin-nonfree
[04:23] <knixtech> myatthu, neither of them
[04:23] <bruenig> the home folder has a bunch of hidden configuration files that seeing as you are coming from suse problem won
[04:23] <spuddogg> cafemocha:  install ndisgtk, ndiswrapper-source, ndiswrapper-utils.  Then just go System->Admin->Wireless Windows Drivers
[04:23] <sklav> Sivik, what the problem
[04:23] <Flannel> lostboyz: which one?
[04:23] <kitche> Sivik: what problem exactly
[04:23] <sklav> i have to install it also
[04:23] <myatthu> knixtech, neither of them ? can i have the web address pls ? :P
[04:23] <sklav> so i might be able to help
[04:23] <lostboyz> Flannel how do i ditch small one and use other one?
[04:23] <knixtech> knixtech.com
[04:23] <Sivik> kitch: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[04:23] <knixtech> ^_^
[04:24] <lostboyz> bruenig can i copy config files
[04:24] <knixtech> myatthu, its something on my ubuntu server
[04:24] <lostboyz> and change name of home to new user name and mount old as home?
[04:24] <kitche> knixtech: was kitchetech.com taken ::P
[04:24] <sklav> Sivik, are you using synaptic?
[04:24] <bruenig> lostboyz, yeah you could do it. I see now what you are trying.
[04:24] <Sivik> sklav: no, command line
[04:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Sivik: http://blog.mypapit.net/2006/08/install-mozilla-flash-plugin-in-ubuntu.html  works to get flash working.
[04:24] <knixtech> kitche, lol
[04:24] <Sivik> sklav: i hate synaptic
[04:24] <lostboyz> bruenig do you know how to do that?
[04:24] <kitche> knixtech: yeah it doesn't even try to load
[04:24] <sklav> ok
[04:24] <konfuzed> sklav, I had a terminal open but the only display I can get on the screen now is the inodes busy message
[04:24] <knixtech> right
[04:24] <Sivik> Jack_Sparrow, it works, i'm just having issues trying to get past this
[04:24] <zylmak> hello i have a problem with app-get i receive an eror : dpkg: error processing flashplugin-nonfree (--configure):
[04:24] <knixtech> fresh install of apache and all
[04:24] <kitche> knixtech: wait it loaded
[04:25] <Flannel> lostboyz: change your fstab, to not mount the small one as home, and to mount the big one as home.
[04:25] <Sivik> zylmak, so am i, we're trying to figure out the issue
[04:25] <knixtech> kitche, to what?
[04:25] <myatthu> knixtech, i am not getting any response from the ping to your server
[04:25] <cod> ------------------------------->>>>>>>>>>>>quick easy question here
[04:25] <knixtech> myatthu, you wouldnt, my firewall blocks it
[04:25] <Sivik> knixtech, what is that ip or dns name
[04:25] <Sivik> cod: what?
[04:25] <kitche> knixtech: it says you deleted the data folder and such
[04:25] <[corn] > Hello
[04:25] <bruenig> ---------------------------------------_>>>>>>>ok
[04:25] <lostboyz> Flannel will there be system inconsistencies though? bruenig said there might be
[04:25] <[corn] > confidential
[04:25] <lostboyz> bruenig do you know how?
[04:25] <knixtech> Sivik, knixtech.com
[04:25] <Sivik> cod: what is the problem
[04:25] <cod> how do you add two commands to a desktop launcher?
[04:25] <Sivik> knixtech, nope, i can't ping it
[04:25] <cod> similar to the | in win?
[04:25] <Flannel> lostboyz: are you sharing this home between OSs? or switching entirely?
[04:25] <myatthu> lol
[04:26] <Sivik> cod: not sure
[04:26] <lostboyz> i need to switch
[04:26] <knixtech> Sivik, you want be able to ^_^
[04:26] <dooglus> cod: try a '&'
[04:26] <bruenig> lostboyz, I assume there will be system inconsistencies
[04:26] <kitche> hmm seems odd that I got to it but you can't ping it lol it takes a while to get though though
[04:26] <lostboyz> i am no longer a part of the suse universe
[04:26] <lostboyz> i am going only with xubuntu
[04:26] <Sivik> knixtech, i want to be able to ping that url, do you have it blocked on your end?
[04:26] <lostboyz> because i had too many problems
[04:26] <knixtech> lostboyz, me neither, cheers
[04:26] <Jack_Sparrow> paddy got was able to find info in the wiki to fix the borked update... and used that link for a good install.. sSorry I dont know what he did..
[04:26] <cod> tried &&, will try with just one
[04:26] <Sivik> knixtech, what is the ip address
[04:26] <knixtech> Sivik, of course
[04:26] <sklav> im installing command line also
[04:26] <kitche> knixtech: I got to it it took about a minute or so
[04:26] <lostboyz> xubuntu
[04:26] <Sivik> knixtech, why do you have it blocked?
[04:26] <lostboyz> is so much faster
[04:26] <dooglus> cod: && will wait for the 1st to finish
[04:26] <lostboyz> than the bloated kde that i was running before
[04:26] <knixtech> kitche, what loaded, as in gui?
[04:26] <cod> trying to get an xgl toggle going for wine installation of diablo
[04:27] <sklav> opk i got the error also
[04:27] <kitche> Sivik: you can get that from linux just do a host knixtech.com
[04:27] <Flannel> cod: and only perform the second if the first returns 0
[04:27] <RagePrblm> Can someone help me turn on direct rendering
[04:27] <kitche> knixtech: no a white page that says wordpress weblog even though it doesn't look like a wordpress for me
[04:27] <cod> so "killall compiz.real compiz & metacity"   ?
[04:27] <lostboyz> Flannel should i do a reinstall then and make the old partition the home folder? i mean what should i do?
[04:27] <Flannel> lostboyz: alright.  What you'llw ant to do is remove any config files you may have, or at the very least copy over your ubuntu ones (from your current home folder) to the new one, because the config syntaxes might be different between program versions
[04:27] <Sivik> kitche, yeah
[04:27] <Sivik> knixtech, why do you have the ping blocked?
[04:27] <Flannel> lostboyz: and then just switch the mount point, and you'll be fine
[04:27] <konfuzed>  any help on stopping the   busy inodes on changed media        message or how I can open a terminal while it is running that message
[04:28] <cTheManiaKY> Okay. I mount a folder to a samba connect. It mounts however if I do a ls or anything within the mounted folder I get permission denied! Even as root, and I know the login I'm using to connect to the share has permissions to access the folde.r
[04:28] <lostboyz> ok
[04:28] <myatthu>  am truly sorry to those that lost there data. Moron me did a "su rm -R /srv/www/htdocs . I did not mean to do this, I meant to do su rm -R
[04:28] <myatthu>    /srv/www/htdocs/another_folder . My finger slipped and hit the ENTER key and hosed it. I felt very shallow when this occurred because i knew there
[04:28] <myatthu>    was no way to get the data back.
[04:28] <lostboyz> where are the config files Flannel?
[04:28] <knixtech> Sivik, its the firewall by defauly
[04:28] <myatthu> is that yours knixtech  ?
[04:28] <Sivik> sklav: this is pissing me off
[04:28] <knixtech> myatthu, is what mine
[04:28] <cod> so "killall compiz.real compiz & metacity"   ?
[04:28] <Flannel> lostboyz: all inside ~
[04:28] <myatthu> that i pasted
[04:28] <Sivik> knixtech, then maybe you ned to turn that firewall off or open the port
[04:28] <knixtech> i didnt see it
[04:28] <sklav> Sivik, you try downloading from macromedia directly?
[04:28] <knixtech> Sivik, port is open silly
[04:28] <cod> should nix xgl, and start metacity in one click?
[04:28] <looktj> seiel for vbware
[04:28] <lostboyz> ~ ok Flannel i am sorry i do not know what that is i am not good at linux tinkering
[04:28] <cTheManiaKY> HELP Samba question : Okay. I mount a folder to a samba connect. It mounts however if I do a ls or anything within the mounted folder I get permission denied! Even as root, and I know the login I'm using to connect to the share has permissions to access the folde.r
[04:28] <looktj> please
[04:29] <looktj> serial
[04:29] <knixtech> myatthu, yes, thats mine
[04:29] <looktj> vmware*
[04:29] <knixtech> myatthu, did it come up?
[04:29] <myatthu> lol
[04:29] <myatthu> knixtech, i used lynx ... yah
[04:29] <Flannel> lostboyz: ~ is the path of your home directory, which can also be written as /home/username/
[04:29] <Sivik> sklav: no, i'm not having an issue with flash anymore, i'm just trying to get past this issue, i'm tired of it coming up ever bloody time i do a sudo apt-get install
[04:29] <myatthu> it did come up
[04:29] <knixtech> hmmmm
[04:29] <lostboyz> ok
[04:29] <knixtech> myatthu, im lost then
[04:29] <aanderse> hi does anyone know why ubuntu really wants a *-desktop meta package installed ... so much that the update manager doesn't work properly if one is not installed?
[04:29] <myatthu> not in ff though
[04:29] <looktj> serial for vmwareZ*
[04:29] <Sivik> sklav, thats not the current issue
[04:29] <lostboyz> so which do i need to copy and replace?
[04:29] <Sivik> sklav: i just want it to stop
[04:29] <Flannel> lostboyz: you'll want to copy your ubuntu stuff over, make sure you get the hidden stuff too (those are folders/files that start with a .)
[04:29] <lostboyz> do you know Flannel? thank you so much for your help by the way
[04:29] <cTheManiaKY> looktj what ver of vmware?
[04:29] <sklav> Sivik, uninstall the package?
[04:29] <kitche> knixtech: ping is blocked but I can get to it fine
[04:30] <knixtech> kitche, really, gui and all?
[04:30] <Sivik> sklav: thanks
[04:30] <sklav> hehe
[04:30] <Sivik> sklav: new issue
[04:30] <kitche> knixtech: well it shows a page where's teh gui part at though
[04:30] <sklav> im guessing that is not what you wanted
[04:30] <Flannel> lostboyz: what you could/probably should do, is delete all the config stuff from your old home, just keep your personal data stuff in there, and then copy everything over, then you won't have to worry about mitigating conflicts, etc
[04:30] <Sivik> the sudo apt-get upgrade is working now
[04:30] <knixtech> kitche, something is not right then
[04:30] <kitche> knixtech: umm it's pointing at a local ip
[04:31] <knixtech> it better
[04:31] <Sivik> after i did the apt-get clean
[04:31] <knixtech> kitche, how do you know this
[04:31] <Sivik> i need to remember that command
[04:31] <kitche> knixtech: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/?p=3 just so you know no one can access that page
[04:31] <dooglus> cod: just ";" will do if it's a quick command like killall first
[04:31] <kitche> knixtech: but you
[04:31] <knixtech> kitche, what do i need to edit then
[04:31] <sklav> so i actually fixed something today ;)
[04:31] <sklav> awesome
[04:32] <dooglus> cod: actually, you probably need to do:   bash -c "killall fluxbox; metacity"
[04:32] <Laptop765> does anybody know why ubuntu would seemingly stop accepting connections from my laptop but no other connections? (i.e. i can't connect to ventrilo from my laptop but 4 other people could)
[04:32] <kitche> knixtech: probably your config and your main page
[04:32] <knixtech> kitche, how did you get that/
[04:32] <Sivik> sklav, thanks for telling me the clean command
[04:32] <kitche> knixtech: it's right on the main page I looked at my status bar and it showed me the ip address
[04:32] <sklav> no prob
[04:32] <sklav> comes in handy
[04:32] <Sivik> sklav: now the mdadm thing is still a problem
[04:33] <knixtech> dammit
[04:33] <sklav> mdadm i have no experience with
[04:33] <sklav> but im sure someone here does
[04:33] <Sivik> well, i'm getting a 218: loop: parameter not set
[04:33] <Sivik> and i can't remove it either
[04:33] <cod> Hmm... ok...
[04:34] <cod> whats -c?
[04:34] <dooglus> cod: "command"
[04:34] <kitche> knixtech: all of your links show that IP address
[04:34] <dooglus> cod: otherwise bash takes it as a filename to open and run
[04:34] <knixtech> kitche, links?
[04:34] <Sivik> fluvvell, pm reply
[04:34] <cod> would that be ----    bash -c "killall compiz.real compiz; metacity"  ?
[04:35] <dooglus> yup
[04:35] <dooglus> but doesn't "killall compiz" kill both anyway?
[04:35] <kitche> knixtech: Truly Sorry Knixtech Uncategorized | No Comments  About September 2006 all of those plus more show an ip address
[04:35] <^Ocean^> how can i force install a .deb
[04:35] <knixtech> kitche, ok, ty
[04:35] <Laptop765> brb
[04:36] <dooglus> ^Ocean^: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[04:36] <lostboyz> so i should delete all the folders with /. paths? Flannel in my old home and then copy new /. over and change mount on fstab?
[04:36] <knixtech> kitche, let me read up
[04:36] <sklav> Sivik, flashplugin-nonfree even thought it complains actually installed and was working for me
[04:36] <^Ocean^> dooglus, but how do i force install it ?
[04:36] <Sivik> sklav: i got passed that issue
[04:36] <sklav> so did i
[04:36] <Flannel> lostboyz: remove all config files, usually they're .programname, either as a folder or a file.  then copy everything from your current ubuntu home, then fstab change, yep.
[04:36] <sklav> im just mentioning the error message is almost a false positive
[04:36] <dooglus> ^Ocean^: sudo dpkg --force-things all -i file.deb
[04:37] <cod> works perfectly.
[04:37] <cod> thank you
[04:37] <lostboyz> so how do i delete those? what would be the best way?
[04:37] <dooglus> cod: np
[04:37] <cod> 2nd related question
[04:37] <lostboyz> can i have a home folder that is different than my username flannel?
[04:37] <Code-E> Anybody here know how to install a game with cedega?
[04:38] <Flannel> lostboyz: sure, you'll need to tweak your user though
[04:38] <dooglus> lostboyz: yes.  edit /etc/passwd and you can change the home dir to anything you like
[04:38] <myatthu> Code-E, cedega is commercial isn't it ? why not call them up ?
[04:38] <bruenig> lostboyz get into the directory with all the .files, it would be your username folder and do rm -tf .*
[04:38] <cod> if I put this into a script while compiz is running, and it kills compiz, the script doesn't seem to want to continue until compiz is started up again
[04:38] <Jack_Sparrow> dooglus: How do you delete an incomplete package?
[04:38] <bruenig> rm -rf *.
[04:38] <bruenig> sorry not a t but a r
[04:38] <Flannel> lostboyz: you can also do it via GUI in the users menu thing
[04:38] <dooglus> bruenig: .* matches . and .. - be careful...
[04:38] <kitche> myatthu: they aren't really commercial really but you can call ubuntu commercial as well
[04:38] <fluvvell> lostboys: try System->Adminstration->Users and Groups
[04:38] <bruenig> dooglus, those damn . and ..
[04:39] <kitche> Code-E: cedega <path to install.exe or Setup.exe>
[04:39] <cod> is that normal? is there a way around?
[04:39] <dooglus> cod: stick a '&' after the metacity
[04:39] <Flannel> cod: #ubuntu-xgl
[04:39] <Code-E> ok
[04:39] <Code-E> thanks
[04:39] <^Ocean^> sklav, you still around ?
[04:39] <cod> ok, thanx
[04:39] <sklav> Yeah im here
[04:39] <cod> ok flannel, didn't realize there was a specif channel.
[04:40] <kitche> Code-E: you can use their gui to but I don't use it
[04:40] <lostboyz> bruenig how do i create a zip backup
[04:40] <lostboyz> if i need those /. files later
[04:40] <lavi> which commandre can be used to install new locale?
[04:40] <lostboyz> like backups of gaim chats and so forth
[04:40] <Code-E> kitche: Traceback (most recent call last):  File "/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega/Point2Play_gui.py", line 2979, in ?    gddb_file = detected[0] TypeError: unsubscriptable object
[04:40] <dooglus> lostboyz: do:  tar cfz backup.tgz ~/.??*
[04:40] <lupine_85> lostboyz: tar -cjf backup.tar.bz2 <files>
[04:40] <myatthu> lostboyz, tar -czvf filename.tar.gz file
[04:40] <lupine_85> j is better :)
[04:40] <sklav> ^Ocean^, anything i can help with?
[04:41] <lostboyz> oh wow ok 3 different answers
[04:41] <lostboyz> which one to choose/
[04:41] <^Ocean^> sklav, okay so i installed the package utold me too,  still getting the same error
[04:41] <lostboyz> they all work the same?
[04:41] <lupine_85> j and z options are two different compression formats
[04:41] <dooglus> lostboyz: mine will be quicker, theirs will make a smaller backup
[04:41] <myatthu> yup ... its like replying you zip and rar
[04:41] <kitche> Code-E: hmm not sure about that but it's a python error though probably has to do with how they scripted it but if it works fine then don't worry about it
[04:41] <Jack_Sparrow> !backup
[04:41] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[04:41] <lostboyz> oh ok
[04:41] <myatthu> they do what you want to do
[04:41] <lostboyz> thanks
[04:41] <lupine_85> z is more widespread, less efficient space-wise, slower
[04:41] <lavi> locale -a > it does not contain the locale what I want, so I wanna add a new locale . how to ?
[04:41] <dooglus> lupine_85: slower?
[04:42] <lupine_85> much
[04:42] <lostboyz> what is difference between cjf tag and czvf tag dooglus
[04:42] <dooglus> lupine_85: I think you'll find bzip2 is slower
[04:42] <Code-E> kitche: no nothing came up when i typed in the command, im gonna try doing a local update
[04:42] <dooglus> lostboyz: the 'v' just prints a bunch of crap as it works
[04:42] <lupine_85> erm, yes you''re right
[04:42] <lostboyz> oh ok
[04:42] <lupine_85> that's what I meant to say :)
[04:42] <lupine_85> sleepy
[04:42] <lupine_85> bzip2 even does a pretty good job with binaries
[04:42] <dooglus> 'c' is 'create archive', the 'f' means you're specifying a filename to backup to
[04:42] <cycom> bzip is pretty good at compression
[04:42] <dooglus> 'z' is gzip and 'j' is bzip2
[04:43] <kitche> bzip also takes a long time to decompress
[04:43] <myatthu> wait ... why not just tell lostboyz to do man tar ?
[04:43] <dooglus> myatthu: 'cos the tar documentation isn't in the man page
[04:43] <kitche> myatthu: that's not the prefered way for ubuntu
[04:43] <dooglus> myatthu: and we'd have to explain how to install the documentation, and how to use info
[04:44] <Jack_Sparrow> the !backup link has good basic info on how to backup using tar...
[04:44] <myatthu> that will make him a knowledgable linux guy in future ? not that i am disagreeing your points there
[04:44] <uriel_> hi i am a linux noob, can somebody helo me?
[04:44] <Flannel> uriel_: just ask your question, someone will answer if they know it
[04:44] <bon> freeview box -uk is it possible to use with pvr card?
[04:44] <xplic1t> helo uriel
[04:45] <uriel_> hi guys
[04:45] <dooglus> hi
[04:45] <d3v1ant0n3> Can I just ask a quickie?
[04:45] <d3v1ant0n3> Hi, btw:D
[04:45] <dooglus> just ask
[04:45] <d3v1ant0n3> In my GRUB, there are 2 entries for Ubuntu. Why?
[04:45] <lostboyz> what is better gzip or bzip2
[04:45] <Flannel> myatthu: if they don't already know/quickly learn about man, it'll slowly get absorbed  with time.
[04:45] <uriel_> ill write down my question the best i ca, also keep inb mind that english its not my main language
[04:45] <d3v1ant0n3> It's the only distro I've seen like that
[04:45] <dooglus> lostboyz: gzip is faster, bzip2 is smaller
[04:45] <Flannel> d3v1ant0n3: one is normal mode, the other is a rescue console
[04:45] <ladydoor> lostboyz: they're both good
[04:45] <Jack_Sparrow> d3v1ant0n3: Updates keep the old kernel
[04:45] <lostboyz> oh thanks
[04:46] <d3v1ant0n3> No, there's duplicate entries for Ubuntu and Ubuntu failsafe
[04:46] <dooglus> lostboyz: not a huge amount in it.  if you empty your browser cache, you'll find there's not much to back up anyway
[04:46] <Flannel> d3v1ant0n3: different kernel versions, then
[04:46] <sklav> ^Ocean^, i forgot to mention you need to add the following
[04:46] <dooglus> d3v1ant0n3: different kernel versions
[04:46] <d3v1ant0n3> Odd...That's how It's appeared since install
[04:46] <dooglus> d3v1ant0n3: if an update somehow breaks the kernel, you'll want to be able to boot into the previous one to recover
[04:46] <THX-1138> Hi dooglus
[04:47] <dooglus> hi THX-1138
[04:47] <dooglus> long time no see
[04:47] <d3v1ant0n3> well thank you:D
[04:47] <lostboyz> thanks guys so much for the help
[04:47] <lostboyz> i really appreciate this
[04:47] <dooglus> lostboyz: did you run the tar?
[04:47] <THX-1138> It has been sometime. - just another contented Ubuntu user, no problems. Windows for games linux FOSS for everything else
[04:48] <dooglus> THX-1138: I've not been here for a month or two
[04:48] <uriel_> ok i need to change the permisions of a file, but it wont let me cause i am not root
[04:48] <uriel_> whatever the hell that is
[04:48] <Flannel> uriel_: which file?
[04:48] <lostboyz> dooglus yeah i ran the tar
[04:48] <d3v1ant0n3> I was so proud of the fact that I just plain dumped windows
[04:48] <Jack_Sparrow> !sudo
[04:48] <dooglus> uriel_: put "sudo" in front of the command
[04:48] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:48] <josh_> anyone in here know what the filename is of the file that will allow a computer to ftp to itself?
[04:48] <lostboyz> but it is hanging because it is saving temp mldonkey files i don't need
[04:48] <d3v1ant0n3> And I'm slowly learning
[04:48] <uriel_> sources.list
[04:48] <uriel_> in /etc/apt
[04:48] <dooglus> lostboyz: if you run "tar tf backup.tgz" it'll show you what files are in it
[04:48] <THX-1138> I wanted to run a (every time ) command before opening nautilus
[04:48] <Flannel> uriel_: no, you don't want to change it's permissions, just edit it with sudo
[04:49] <dooglus> uriel_: you don' want to change the permissions
[04:49] <Flannel> uriel_: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list or sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:49] <sklav> ^Ocean^, i just sent you a private message with the steps needed
[04:49] <uriel_> ok ty ill try and get back to you
[04:49] <Jack_Sparrow> uriel_: Make a backup       sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list ~/sources.list.backup
[04:49] <^Ocean^> sklav, i responded too ti too lol
[04:50] <sklav> i didnt see a response on my window
[04:50] <sklav> :(
[04:50] <josh_> anyone use proftpd?
[04:50] <Flannel> that's because ^Ocean^, you're not registered/identified (and thus, can't query)
[04:50] <THX-1138> Hi Flannel. - Have you seen "xdesktopwaves"? - water effect for the desktop.
[04:51] <Flannel> THX-1138: nope, I only use a CLI ;)
[04:51] <sklav> THX-1138, i have
[04:51] <sklav> its pretty fun
[04:51] <sklav> rain drops like
[04:51] <MikeHawk> Has anyone had problems upgrading to Dapper?
[04:51] <THX-1138> Flannel - I can never get Unreal Tournament to run acceptably that way. - you must actually be getting work done.
[04:52] <roostishaw> MikeHawk, like what sort of problems?
[04:52] <MikeHawk> I tried a
[04:52] <MikeHawk> >>sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:52] <MikeHawk> and got the message:
[04:52] <mabus> How can I make it so when I use elinks, it is in color, but other stuff is not broken? When I do TERM=xterm-256color && export $TERM it tells me that it is not valid. However, elinks works in color just fine. When I go to do anything else like... nano or whatever, I cannot because I don't have a valid term. Can anyone offer advice please?
[04:53] <dooglus> mabus: "export TERM", not "export $TERM"
[04:53] <THX-1138> sklav - It is great fun! :)
[04:53] <Flannel> MikeHawk: you'll want to be up to date first, norml sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:53] <sklav> i agree and the wobble effect is cool
[04:53] <dooglus> mabus: put a line in ~/.bashrc saying    alias elinks='TERM=xterm-256color /usr/bin/elinks'
[04:54] <mabus> mabus@mabox:~/doc$ export TERM
[04:54] <mabus> mabus@mabox:~/doc$ nano test
[04:54] <mabus> Error opening terminal: xterm-256color.
[04:54] <supermiguel> does any one know how an i write to my nfts partition i monted it on media/windows i can read it but can't write on it
[04:54] <Jack_Sparrow> How hard is it to install the xdesktopwaves.. my wife would love it on her box
[04:54] <AbortD> THX-1138, how do you start it after you download it?
[04:54] <Flannel> supermiguel: you can't do it safely.
[04:54] <mabus> dooglus: I don't have any .bashrc file yet, do I need to put like a shebang line or anything at the beginning?
[04:54] <Flannel> !tell supermiguel about ntfs
[04:54] <Flannel> supermiguel: you can see !fuse if you REALLY want to do it though
[04:54] <THX-1138> How does nautilus get it's start command? Can i add a command to run each time before it starts? (pored over gconf-editor for nrly an hour and can't make sense of it.)
[04:54] <DigitalNinja> What's a good music player?
[04:54] <dooglus> mabus: you should have one - it's automatically created
[04:54] <supermiguel> is not saifty?
[04:54] <dooglus> mabus: no shebang needed
[04:55] <AbortD> THX-1138, how do you start it after you download it?
[04:55] <Kyral> DigitalNinja: Beep Media Player, AmaroK, XMMS, mpg321....
[04:55] <Jack_Sparrow> supermiguel: You have asked that before... Still not advised but feel free to beta test it for the rest of us..
[04:55] <mabus> dooglus: well it's empty, in any case... so just type that and go, great.
[04:55] <Flannel> supermiguel: no, there's a risk of data corruption, because NTFS isn't an open standard
[04:55] <Crescendo_> Is there anything that I can do to allow multiple things to play sound at once?
[04:55] <sklav> THX-1138, yes you can
[04:55] <DigitalNinja> Kyral, Thanks! I was thinking of AmaroK.
[04:55] <sklav> go to system -> preference-sessions
[04:55] <THX-1138> AbortD - just the app name - there are some options listed --help.  quitye a few options.
[04:55] <dooglus> supermiguel: ntfs-3g is pretty good I hear
[04:55] <DigitalNinja> Kyral: Does that rip CD's?
[04:56] <Kyral> DigitalNinja: Nope, but another KDE app does...
[04:56] <sklav> click on startup tab and add program there
[04:56] <Kyral> forgot what lol
[04:56] <DigitalNinja> oh :(
[04:56] <Kyral> Actually I think its built into KDE...
[04:56] <dooglus> supermiguel: http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=15196
[04:57] <mabus> dooglus: No color in elinks, c/ping your line. Tried logging out and logging in, in case .bashrc was only loaded when you login or whatever, but to no avail.
[04:57] <THX-1138> sklav - hm - i must be doing something wrong. tried that but it only helps on boot up. was hoping that "transset <options> could be run before starting nautilus.)
[04:57] <MikeHawk> hey sorry. I was in the middle of typing my error message and gaim crashed.
[04:57] <Flannel> MikeHawk: you'll want to be up to date first, norml sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:57] <sklav> THX-1138, are you using xgl?
[04:58] <MikeHawk> I was attempting to upgrade and got the message ->
[04:58] <MikeHawk> me@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:58] <MikeHawk> Reading package lists... Done
[04:58] <MikeHawk> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:58] <MikeHawk> Calculating upgrade... Done
[04:58] <MikeHawk> The following packages have been kept back:
[04:58] <MikeHawk>   hal hal-device-manager libhal-storage1 libhal1 pmount
[04:58] <THX-1138> sklav - xcompmgr - XGL didn't work well enough yet. (still bleeding edge i would guess.)
[04:58] <MikeHawk> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 5 not upgraded.
[04:59] <mabus> MikeHawk: If it's more than 3 lines, use a pastebin.
[04:59] <man> gd
[04:59] <man> lgglk]
[04:59] <dooglus> mabus: type "type elinks" - what do you see?
[04:59] <lostboyz> so to copy config files now to old home file i would do what sudo cp /home/~/.* /oldhome/
[04:59] <lostboyz> dooglus
[04:59] <mabus> dooglus: A black and white elinks client.
[04:59] <MikeHawk> sorry, what is a pastebin?   I don't see an option on this interface for that
[04:59] <mabus> !paste
[04:59] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:00] <dooglus> lostboyz: best to use 'tar' to do the copy really
[05:00] <AbortD> THX-1138, have  you ever tried to get 3ddesk to work?
[05:00] <dooglus> lostboyz: that way you keep the permissions, and symlinks, etc
[05:00] <THX-1138> Flannel - Where does nautilus find the commands it needs to run when you use it?
[05:00] <bon> how do i start a process if i have the process number
[05:00] <Flannel> THX-1138: er, I don't use nautilus, sorry.
[05:00] <THX-1138> AbortD - No, not yet. just saw something about it tonight.
[05:00] <dooglus> bon: kill -START <process id>
[05:00] <AbortD> THX-1138, i cant get it working :/
[05:00] <lostboyz> home folder *
[05:00] <lostboyz> ok how would i do that?
[05:00] <bon> thanks
[05:00] <man> hai all
[05:01] <man> boleh join di sini gak??
[05:01] <lostboyz> sudo tar -cjf /home/~/.* then what
[05:01] <dooglus> lostboyz: cd /home/oldhome; tar cf - .??* | (cd /home/newhome; tar xf -)
[05:01] <lostboyz> all in one command?
[05:01] <dooglus> yes
[05:02] <lostboyz> ok thanks!
[05:02] <nanotube> hello, I got list of packages installed on one PC using "dpkg --get-selections" how can I synchronize this list with other ubuntu pc?
[05:02] <dooglus> the .??* will match any file beginning with a dot, if the name is 3 or more characters long
[05:02] <lostboyz> does my old home have to have the same name as my user id?
[05:02] <lostboyz> would that be good to change that way?
[05:02] <lostboyz> dooglus
[05:02] <lostboyz> bruenig
[05:02] <dooglus> it doesn't matter what your home directory is called
[05:02] <lostboyz> oh ok
[05:02] <lostboyz> but i can rename it later right?
[05:02] <MikeHawk> so I keep getting this "The following packages have been kept back: hal hal-device-manager....." message when attempting to upgrade.  does anyone have any idea what it could be?
[05:03] <dooglus> incidentally, you keep saying /home/~ , but that doesn't mean anything
[05:03] <dooglus> ~ is only special at the start of a word
[05:03] <dooglus> ~dooglus means dooglus' home
[05:03] <dooglus> ~ means 'my home'
[05:03] <man> wooiii disini ada orang indonesia gak?????????????
[05:03] <lostboyz> dooglus
[05:03] <dooglus> !ubuntu-monkeytalk
[05:03] <Jack_Sparrow> man: Swedish  Polish ?
[05:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-monkeytalk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:03] <lostboyz> wouldn't it be ./.??*
[05:04] <bon>  dooglus: i tryed -start 9994
[05:04] <Flannel> !id
[05:04] <ubotu> join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[05:04] <THX-1138> MikeHawk - you migh try the apt -f "force" option with another type of package but the hal daemon is very scary.
[05:04] <lostboyz> instead of .??*
[05:04] <MikeHawk> crap
[05:04] <cTheManiaKY> HELP is there a command I can type that deletes the first line in a test file and leaves the rest intact
[05:04] <dooglus> lostboyz: ./ is implicit.  bash will look in the current directory if you don't tell it otherwise
[05:04] <cTheManiaKY> test=text file
[05:04] <lostboyz> oh ok
[05:04] <lostboyz> thank you
[05:04] <THX-1138> "Hardware Access Layer"
[05:05] <chaos> is there an option I can enable in xorg.conf to completely disable mouse acceleration?
[05:05] <dooglus> cTheManiaKY: sed -i 1d file
[05:05] <ladydoor> cTheManiaKY: you could use a text editor like gedit or nano. actually, use dooglus's suggestion
[05:05] <THX-1138> MikeHawk - Is there a verbose or very verbose option for apt?
[05:05] <man> how are you all\\????????
[05:05] <lostboyz> dooglus do i have to use sudo?
[05:05] <cTheManiaKY> dooglus I'll try that thanks!
[05:05] <lostboyz> because i think old home is still write protected
[05:06] <dooglus> lostboyz: no, I'd suggest you don't - or the files will be owned by the old user, not your current user
[05:06] <mabus> lostboyz: chmod it
[05:06] <dooglus> cTheManiaKY: "sed -i 1d *" to do it to all the files in the current directory
[05:06] <lostboyz> how do i do that mabus
[05:06] <MikeHawk> THX-- I don't know.  how would I find out if there is an option
[05:06] <Flannel> lostboyz: change the umask in your fstab
[05:06] <dooglus> lostboyz: log in as the user you're copying to.  I assumed you were copying from old to new
[05:06] <mabus> sudo chmod 666 /oldhome
[05:06] <Flannel> mabus: no.
[05:06] <dooglus> if not, switch the paths around
[05:06] <lostboyz> yes
[05:07] <uriel_> flannel
[05:07] <dooglus> the "tar cf" is reading, and "tar xf" is writing
[05:07] <uriel_> i did what you told me
[05:07] <lostboyz> i am already there logged in as new user but i don't know if i have write permissions for oldhome
[05:07] <lostboyz> how do i change that?
[05:07] <Flannel> uriel_: and?
[05:07] <dooglus> log is as the user you're wanting to copy the files *to*
[05:07] <uriel_> it didnt modify the file when i saved
[05:07] <lostboyz> oh ok
[05:07] <Flannel> lostboyz: or, use sudo to make yourself that user (sudo -u name)
[05:07] <uriel_> it just created a modified backup of it
[05:07] <lostboyz> yes i am the new user
[05:08] <Flannel> uriel_: er, which command did you use?
[05:08] <lostboyz> oh but the old user is no longer in the system
[05:08] <lostboyz> i only have one user
[05:08] <masingerz> hello
[05:08] <mabus> dooglus: So any idea why that alias still brings elinks up in black and white?
[05:08] <lostboyz> on the xubuntu but not all files are writeable
[05:08] <uriel_> sudo nano
[05:08] <lostboyz> in old
[05:08] <Flannel> lostboyz: you'll want to chown the whole thing then, probably
[05:08] <Flannel> uriel_: the whole line
[05:08] <dooglus> mabus: sorry, I missed your reply.  what does "type elinks" show?
[05:08] <lostboyz> Flannel how do i do that
[05:08] <ludedeeds> anyone else use cedega on ubuntu with an ATI radeon card? if so.. how do you fix the OpenGL failure?
[05:08] <uriel_> have patience with me i have barely using linux for like 2 hours
[05:08] <mabus> dooglus: elinks is hashed (/usr/bin/elinks)
[05:08] <Flannel> uriel_: no problem, but I'll need the entire command, copy/pasted ;)
[05:09] <masingerz> i had some old ubuntu installs here and now i want to do a dapper install but keep the old ubuntus, i have a dapper cd here
[05:09] <uriel_> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:09] <dooglus> lostboyz: if you're copying from old to new, why do you care whether you can write to old?
[05:09] <masingerz> the old ubuntus are broken
[05:09] <dooglus> mabus: show me the link in your .bashrc
[05:09] <Flannel> uriel_: and, then when you saved, where did it save it?
[05:09] <masingerz> im on th elive cd right now
[05:09] <lostboyz> so i am sure that all the config files can write successful
[05:09] <uriel_> i saved with alt o
[05:09] <uriel_> it did but then i checked the file and it was the same
[05:09] <dooglus> mabus: and make sure it's a new terminal - bash only reads .bashrc when it starts
[05:09] <uriel_> but there was a new one
[05:10] <uriel_> named sources.list.save
[05:10] <dooglus> lostboyz: you're writing to the new user's directory?
[05:10] <lostboyz> no
[05:10] <uriel_> in the same directory
[05:10] <lostboyz> i only have eagle user
[05:10] <Flannel> uriel_: ah, when you did ^O, did you type a different name?
[05:10] <lostboyz> ahren is old user
[05:10] <lostboyz> i want to use old ahren from suse as my home
[05:10] <lostboyz> so i can save easy and has larger space
[05:10] <uriel_> i just did ^o
[05:10] <lostboyz> 220 gb
[05:10] <lostboyz> this partition is seperate
[05:10] <lostboyz> has only 10 gb
[05:10] <myatthu> uriel_, did you do alt-o or ctrl-o ?
[05:11] <dooglus> lostboyz: I would suggest using the same userid in both suse and ubuntu
[05:11] <uriel_> alt o
[05:11] <lostboyz> and ubuntu auto.. installs like only on /
[05:11] <lostboyz> ok
[05:11] <myatthu> uriel_, can you do ctrl-o ?
[05:11] <lostboyz> so i can change the name then of the folder
[05:11] <lostboyz> from ahren to eagle write?
[05:11] <uriel_> lemme check
[05:11] <lostboyz> then copy the config files
[05:11] <Woong> testing..........
[05:11] <lostboyz> then change mount in fstab right dooglus?
[05:12] <MikeHawk> okay, I think I might have "solved" my problem with the whole "packages have been kept back" "hal hal-..."   Thanks for the help, works great.
[05:12] <unikon> has anyone ever come across the problem of not being able to pull up the applications menu whatsoever?
[05:12] <dooglus> lostboyz: leave the mounts alone, they're fine I expect
[05:12] <dooglus> unikon: yes, a long time ago
[05:12] <Woong> Hey, has anyone found the failure rate of the DVD release is somewhat of a problem?
[05:12] <Flannel> syllogism: which CD? Desktop or Alternate? (definately not on the latter, most likely not on the former)
[05:13] <uriel_> ok it worked now, ty dude
[05:13] <uriel_> i feel so stupid
[05:13] <syllogism> Desktop
[05:13] <myatthu> uriel_, ^ usually means ctrl :P
[05:13] <lostboyz> no but i have to change the mount points for old home because it is in seperate partition
[05:13] <uriel_> windows made me stupid
[05:13] <myatthu> lol
[05:13] <jadyzob> does anyone know how to work with iptables????
[05:13] <dooglus> lostboyz: the other partition is mounted somewhere though, right?
[05:13] <lostboyz> yes
[05:13] <MikeHawk> So I went to Software Preferences in Synaptic and disabled two sources, both were related to the ntfs-3g ...  does anyone know why this was important to solving my package problem?
[05:14] <Flannel> jadyzob: most people do it via firestarter
[05:14] <dooglus> lostboyz: so you can change your home directory to be on that partition
[05:14] <lostboyz> but not automatically mounted as home i don't thin
[05:14] <lostboyz> yes exactly
[05:14] <dooglus> lostboyz: "mounted as home"?
[05:14] <lostboyz> oh
[05:14] <lostboyz> the oldhome is not mounted as home
[05:14] <lostboyz> the old home is here
[05:15] <lostboyz> /dev/sda2/home/eagle
[05:15] <lostboyz> the new xubuntu home is here /dev/sda3/home/eagle
[05:15] <lostboyz> respectfully
[05:16] <dooglus> do you want to have /home be the same in both os'es?
[05:16] <lostboyz> so now i just have to copy the new config files
[05:16] <lostboyz> and update fstab right dooglus? Flannel?
[05:16] <dooglus> first, do you even still want to use suse?
[05:16] <Flannel> dooglus: he's ditching suse, just migrating his big partition over
[05:16] <lostboyz> no never
[05:16] <lostboyz> i don't have it
[05:16] <lostboyz> don't want it
[05:16] <dooglus> ok
[05:16] <lostboyz> i am convert
[05:16] <lostboyz> to xubuntu
[05:16] <lostboyz> i have seen the signs
[05:17] <lostboyz> poor system performance crashing in kde end of the world was near
[05:17] <kitche> lostboyz: well the hidden folders should not be a problem really it's the other configs that you have to really worry about
[05:17] <dooglus> what I would then is have the old suse partition mounted onto /home
[05:17] <lostboyz> ok
[05:17] <dooglus> is it mounted at the moment?
[05:17] <lostboyz> but i still have to copy new config files there right?
[05:18] <lostboyz> or do i do something else?
[05:18] <dooglus> how long have you been using ubuntu?
[05:18] <torpedo|dog> netsplit!
[05:18] <lostboyz> i used debian as main system
[05:18] <lostboyz> but i couldn't get it to install with amd64 processer
[05:18] <lostboyz> so i gave up and went to suse
[05:18] <lostboyz> i have used linux now for 3 years
[05:18] <lostboyz> but i don't tinker with stuff
[05:19] <lostboyz> only use it for internet surfing
[05:19] <lostboyz> and tinker when i have to
[05:19] <dooglus> I'm wondering what these config files are you're talking about
[05:19] <lostboyz> the /. files
[05:19] <lostboyz> that i was told to erase
[05:19] <dooglus> the ones you used in suse?
[05:19] <lostboyz> and then copy over from old one
[05:19] <lostboyz> yes
[05:19] <lostboyz> they told me to erase them
[05:19] <lostboyz> and copy new ones over
[05:20] <lostboyz> so that there would be no system inconsistencies
[05:20] <dooglus> instead of doing that, I would suggest you continue using your old home, but get it mounted in the right place
[05:20] <lostboyz> because xubuntu installed only on /dev/sda3
[05:20] <lostboyz> and could not make /dev/sda2 my home during install
[05:20] <lostboyz> because the resolutioun was not right
[05:20] <kitche> lostboyz: just so you knwo ~/. configs won't destroy your system like the other config files
[05:20] <lostboyz> oh ok
[05:21] <lostboyz> well dooglus i am going to copy the new to old then
[05:21] <lostboyz> and mount it in the right place is that cool?
[05:21] <peruano> it's me again
[05:21] <dooglus> yes
[05:21] <peruano> fixmbr worked!
[05:21] <dooglus> is the big disk currently mounted?
[05:22] <ingsoc> Hola amegos
[05:22] <myatthu> !sp
[05:22] <ubotu> sp: James Clark's SGML parsing tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.4-1.2.1-46ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 169 kB, installed size 592 kB
[05:22] <lostboyz> yes
[05:22] <myatthu> oh
[05:22] <lostboyz> it is
[05:22] <myatthu> !es
[05:22] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:22] <myatthu> lol
[05:22] <AbortD> myatthu,  whats that do?
[05:22] <myatthu> whats what do ?
[05:22] <insub> Hello, how do i activate the C++ Compiler
[05:22] <AbortD> parsing tools
[05:22] <myatthu> insub, you mean install ?
[05:23] <AbortD> insub, you get build-essentials
[05:23] <kitche> !build
[05:23] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:23] <mkquist> anyone... why wouldnt firefox and konversation suddenly not wanna run?
[05:23] <myatthu> parsing tool ? oh i mean to say !spanish ... so i did !sp forgotting spanish is !es
[05:23] <kitche> mkquist: probably due to that they are segfaulting
[05:23] <clearzen> So I've been unable to download and install the new flash. In fact my updates have been broken since yesterday. But I can install programs and download other packages at a normal rate. Any idea what is wrong?
[05:24] <uriel_> the reason i was trying to edit "/etc/apt/sources.list" was to enable universal repo so i can get sysv-rc-conf, but the damn thing still tells me "No candidate version found for sysv-rc-conf"
[05:24] <uriel_> any ideas?
[05:24] <ladydoor> !language
[05:24] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:24] <lostboyz> dooglus how do i register?
[05:24] <myatthu> uriel_, i suppose you did sudo apt-get update ?
[05:24] <Slynderdale> Hmm, I don't have a backup hard drive, what is the next best option to backup a system?
[05:24] <ladydoor> uriel_: and did you do sudo apt-get update first
[05:24] <uriel_> yeah
[05:24] <myatthu> or refresh in synaptic ...
[05:24] <insub> please show me the link again
[05:25] <dooglus>  /msg nickserv register pa$$word
[05:25] <insub> Hello, how do i activate the C++ Compiler
[05:25] <uriel_> i did
[05:25] <myatthu> !build-essential
[05:25] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:25] <AbortD> insub, .... i told you build-essentials
[05:25] <mkquist> kitche - segfaulting?
[05:25] <insub> thanks
[05:25] <mkquist> kitche - again over my head there
[05:25] <rshadarack> does anyone know of a walkthrough showing me how to update the linux kernel?  I have extracted patch-2.6.18 but I'm not sure what to do from there
[05:25] <AbortD> insub, go into synaptic package manager and search for build essentials
[05:25] <kitche> mkquist: yeah it's when it trys to load in a memory that it can't
[05:26] <mkquist> kitche - im sure this affected things, took a drive out of one machine and put in another, no os on it but seems to have funked up both comps
[05:26] <mkquist> any thoughts?
[05:26] <theseek3r> hi, i've got this weird problem
[05:26] <peruano> anybody knows, i installed ubuntu on my pc, but i got 2 win O/S more, and when i restart i got this : grub loading   error 21
[05:26] <peruano> how can i fix that
[05:26] <minerale> I'm trying to backup my entire system into an external drive (FAT32, but tar -zxvf is giving me a "file too large" error, how can I split the archive ?
[05:26] <kitche> mkquist: yeah that might mess with the machines if both machines are different
[05:26] <theseek3r> i cannot change the default application for any file type
[05:26] <ingsoc> I know that one I think
[05:27] <theseek3r> the radio button at "open with" in the properties of the file
[05:27] <theseek3r> doesn't change
[05:27] <ingsoc> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[05:27] <kitche> minerale: tar up a few folders at a time then just make one tar with all the tars in it
[05:27] <clearzen> my updater has been broken since yesterday. But I can still install programs. I can't get the updates listed however. How can I fix this?
[05:28] <Dittohead> I'm getting python errors when doing an apt-get dist-upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10. Along these lines (if you need more I'll post elsewhere so I don't flood...just tell me where): 'File "/usr/bin/pycentral", line 1319, in main'
[05:28] <rshadarack> Anyone know of a walkthrough for updating the linux kernel?
[05:28] <sproingie> !pastebin
[05:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:28] <kitche> Dittohead: yeah pastebin it
[05:28] <Dittohead> Thanks...just a sec
[05:28] <kitche> sproingie: you just had to ask him to pastebin it lol
[05:28] <theseek3r> any guidelines?
[05:28] <minerale> kitche: I have certain dv files that are over 2gb, I can't really do that, is there any archive-er that will split files on it's own ?
[05:29] <kitche> minerale: umm well there is programs to do that
[05:29] <kitche> minerale: anyways fat32 can only have 4GB file size
[05:29] <clearzen> :minerale I think you can use dd or rsync and then use cat to put them back together
[05:29] <clearzen> I'm not sure of the command syntax though
[05:29] <webhed> I have a question regarding how to get mplayer to work as a plugin in Firefox. I want to be able to view media files that are embedded in some webpages in Firefox and I'm sure mplayer is the way to do it, just not sure how.
[05:30] <rshadarack> does anyone know of a walkthrough showing me how to update the linux kernel?
[05:30] <kitche> webhed: well there is many ways to do it really you could use totem-plugin for firefox but if you want mplayer you probably have to install mplayer's firefox plugin
[05:30] <Dittohead> Python errors on dist-upgrade to 6.10 from 6.06: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24325
[05:31] <delaney> Anyone here happen to know   a/ how to get last.fm support in audacious   or  b/ where the default plugin folder for audacious is?
[05:31] <webhed> actually I really dont care whether its mplayer or totem
[05:31] <webhed> how can I get totem to work?
[05:31] <theseek3r> maybe someone could post a help post here--> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=262487
[05:31] <kitche> Dittohead: it seems to have to deal with python2.4-minimal
[05:32] <peruano> anybody knows the spanish ubuntu chat link
[05:32] <webhed> I already did Automatix and EasyUbuntu but for some reason some media files still show up as a "plug-in needed" icon in FF instead of just playing
[05:32] <kitche> webhed: try this mozilla-mplayer
[05:33] <Dittohead> kitche, any easy fix? Can I remove python2.4 and will dist-upgrade reinstall it? Or is that doomed to fail? I had errors with openoffice upgrading earlier but I managed to remove it and everything went fine until now.
[05:33] <webhed> "mozilla-mplayer is already the newest version."
[05:33] <shmulik> Hi, I have a folder with a bunch of subdirectories and files in it, and I want all the files with the extension ".m4p" moved out to another location.
[05:33] <webhed> I apparently already have it installed
[05:33] <kitche> Dittohead: you can try installing python
[05:34] <carpediem> webhed: do you know what type of media files?
[05:34] <kitche> webhed: do you liek gstreamer or xine?
[05:34] <kitche> webhed: sicne there is totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin and totem-xine-firefox-plugin
[05:34] <webhed> kitche: again, dont really care, whichever works
[05:34] <Dittohead> kitche, python: Depends: python-minimal (= 2.4.3-11ubuntu3) but 2.4.2-0ubuntu3 is to be installed
[05:34] <carpediem> use xine, gstreamer plays wmv like crap.
[05:35] <peruano> anybody knows ubuntu espanol link
[05:35] <kitche> webhed: those should work just pick one that you feel like using
[05:35] <theseek3r> shmulik: mv *.m4p /path_here/
[05:35] <webhed> ok so just apt-get install totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin ?
[05:35] <rshadarack> Can anyone help me in updating my linux kernel?
[05:35] <kitche> Dittohead: try upgrading python-minimal
[05:35] <webhed> and apt-get install totem-xine-firefox-plugin ?
[05:35] <kitche> webhed: yes
[05:36] <webhed> ok doing - thanks
[05:36] <carpediem> rshadarack: why, isn't apt doing it for you?
[05:36] <shmulik> theseek3r: The m4p files are within subdirectories though
[05:36] <rshadarack> car: I have no idea how to do it in the first place, I just installed ubuntu today and I was told to update the kernel to get my wireless card working
[05:36] <ubuntu> help
[05:36] <Dittohead> kitche, then I get those errors that I put in the paste-bin again.
[05:36] <carpediem> rshadarack: oh, what wireless card?
[05:37] <rshadarack> bcm
[05:37] <rshadarack> broadcom
[05:37] <carpediem> rshadarack: is it usb or pci?
[05:37] <ladydoor> shmulik: try this:  for dir in /full/path/to/their/base/dir/* ; do mv $dir/* /their/new/location
[05:37] <rshadarack> car: pci
[05:37] <ladydoor> shmulik: *add this:  ; done
[05:37] <ladydoor> shmulik: at the end of that line
[05:37] <spuddogg> Another problem today...I was online on my laptop running Ubuntu Dapper, and all was well.  I unplugged my PCMCIA network card to read the MAC on it, and now it will not work anymore.  I tried the card in another box, so I know it works fine.  Is there a way to reload or reinstall the driver it was using?
[05:38] <kitche> Dittohead: hmm could be the program itself
[05:38] <Dittohead> kitche, broken package perhaps?
[05:38] <shmulik> for dir in /full/path/to/their/base/dir/* ; do mv $dir/* /their/new/location; done
[05:38] <sudharsh> hi..video performance in dapper is pathetic for me..I am using a SiS 650 that was workin well in all the distros even breezy but not dapper..dma is on for all drives, i have an amd xp 2000+
[05:38] <shmulik> Like that?
[05:38] <spuddogg> Or is that not the problem at all?
[05:38] <daurn> hi all
[05:38] <kitche> spuddogg: if you did ifconfig it would have shown you the MAC as well
[05:38] <ladydoor> shmulik: yup
[05:38] <ladydoor> shmulik: that might work
[05:38] <carpediem> rshadarack: usually you need ndiswrapper, and the windows driver, for broadcom cards.
[05:38] <daurn> sound is coming out the wrong soundcard for *some* things for me
[05:38] <spuddogg> kitche, yes, i realized that after i did it
[05:39] <carpediem> rshadarack: as is described here:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683
[05:39] <daurn> how can i get the sound output changed?
[05:39] <kitche> rshadarack: hmm it should work out of the box to get it working you might have ti activite it
[05:39] <theseek3r> maybe someone could post a help post here--> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=262487
[05:39] <spuddogg> Another problem today...I was online on my laptop running Ubuntu Dapper, and all was well.  I unplugged my PCMCIA network card to read the MAC on it, and now it will not work anymore.  I tried the card in another box, so I know it works fine.  Is there a way to reload or reinstall the driver it was using, or is that not the problem at all?
[05:39] <rshadarack> car/kitche: the weird thing is (or so I'm told) is that ubuntu recognizes my wireless card
[05:40] <shmulik> ladydoor: That won't move the .m4ps?
[05:40] <rshadarack> it's just not working
[05:40] <kitche> spuddogg: try to restart the pcmcia script
[05:40] <ladydoor> shmulik: it didn't? sorry
[05:40] <ladydoor> shmulik: then i don't know
[05:40] <kitche> rshadarack: try this system -> networking and tell me what's listed
[05:40] <spuddogg> kitche, how do i do that?  also i should tell you, i put another network card in this laptop (ndiswrapper) and it is working fine
[05:41] <rshadarack> kitche: Wireless connection on eth1, ethernet on eth0, and modem on ppp0
[05:41] <meheren> i have sorta a problem im trying to explain to my buds the difference between a hacker and a cracker.. but can't really seem to put the definitons into words I'm the kinda person who has ideas but can,t explain them... any help?
[05:41] <meheren> *can't
[05:41] <kitche> rshadarack: does eth1 say not active
[05:41] <webhed> I installed both and I still get the deal about missing a plugin on a page with an embedded wmv
[05:42] <rshadarack> yes
[05:42] <kitche> spuddogg: look in /etc/rc.d
[05:42] <theseek3r> ok i have to go to work now, I could use a little help here if you have any ideas: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=262487
[05:42] <sproingie> meheren: if you want maximally pith, say a hacker is like a locksmith and a cracker is a punk with a slim jim
[05:42] <kitche> spuddogg: for a script called pcmcia tell me if you find it
[05:42] <rshadarack> kitche: I tried to activate it, which seemed to work, but I closed out of the network settings, reopened it, and it's not active again
[05:42] <nonickname> what is device dm-0?
[05:43] <kitche> rshadarack: yeah I think that's a bug it does that to me but wireless still is on
[05:43] <meheren> sproingie,  great analogy thx :)
[05:43] <ladydoor> meheren: check this out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_ethic
[05:43] <spuddogg> kitche: no such file or directory
[05:43] <rshadarack> kitche: Internet still won't work
[05:43] <nonickname> !dm
[05:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:43] <carpediem> theseek3r: I just posted a reply
[05:43] <nonickname> !dm0
[05:43] <TheH> Hi there, anyone can help me with a 6600gt component video issue?
[05:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dm0 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:43] <carpediem> theseek3r: not sure if it is the answer though.
[05:43] <kitche> spuddogg: for what rc.d or pcmcia?
[05:43] <spuddogg> kitche rc.d
[05:43] <delaney> anyone able to get audioscrobbler/last.fm support with audacious + dapper
[05:43] <theseek3r> ok carpediem thanx
[05:43] <meheren> ladydoor, ok thx
[05:44] <rshadarack> kitche: also, my wireless network is not showing up when I go into properties and the dropdown menu of "Network name"
[05:44] <kitche> rshadarack: well did you set your settings up right?
[05:44] <delaney> when i ./configure the plugins for compile i get  "AudioScrobbler Client:                  no"
[05:44] <rshadarack> kitche: can't, because the list of networks to select from is blank
[05:44] <kitche> spuddogg: look for a init.d folder in /etc sorry I m not use to how ubuntu init scripts are
[05:44] <carpediem> rshadarack, kitche: broadcom chips don't work out of the box, you need ndiswrapper.
[05:45] <minerale> Ok, I just installed ubuntu on a notebook, but the resolution was wrong, so I ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and now x won't even start anymore, are there any guides that help for this on the website ?
[05:45] <kitche> carpediem: they do work trust me it worked out of the box for me
[05:45] <carpediem> kitche: most do not, or there wouldn't be whole threads dedicated to this subject:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683
[05:46] <spuddogg> kitche, i got the file open now...what in particular am i looking for?
[05:46] <kitche> carpediem: or else it wouldn't show up in the Networking settings
[05:46] <TheH> I had a hard time with fedora and I finaly did not get the widescreen of my tv to open.. I want to know if there is a tutorial or something to fallow about getting my 6600gt to work with component video on mu hdtv?
[05:46] <kitche> spuddogg: a pcmcia script
[05:46] <ingsoc> Any one care to share some good theme sites?
[05:46] <ingsoc> WM or Gnome
[05:46] <ladydoor> carpediem: kitche: there's now the bcmwxx native driver
[05:46] <kitche> carpediem: I know the newer broadcoms don't work but the newer chips are hard to find
[05:47] <kitche> ladydoor: I know that there is a native driver that's what I use since ndiswrapper is a pain :)
[05:47] <ninjakttty> can anyone help me, I've got a problem where when I try and play videos it only displays half of the video I've got a example posted of what I mean http://www.ninjakitty.net/yuri/bitbucket/video.png
[05:47] <carpediem> kitche: I have a 4 year old broadcom pci card that requires ndiswrapper, I'm not sure why yours doesn't, but most do.
[05:47] <rshadarack> kitche, ladydoor: how do I get this driver?
[05:47] <ladydoor> kitche: yeah...haha, i actually had the opposite experience (the native driver giving me problems)
[05:48] <malice_> OK, I did something stupid so dont tell me I did But I went into Synaptic Package, settings then to repositories then install media then my mouse on my laptop was on delete and it deleted the first 3 on this menu, would anyone please tell me what the efirst 3 are ?
[05:48] <cew_cantq> hiiiiiiiiiiiii...............
[05:48] <kitche> carpediem: probably because the kernel module doesn't like your chipset
[05:48] <theseek3r> any other ideas???--> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=262487
[05:48] <kitche> rshadarack: you already have it
[05:49] <TheH>  I had a hard time with fedora and I finally did not get the widescreen of my tv to open.. I want to know if there is a tutorial or something to fallow about getting my 6600gt to work with component video on my hdtv pm ubuntu
[05:49] <Homer> how do I download the whole internet
[05:49] <jiSh_clone> i beat the internet
[05:49] <kitche> carpediem: the kernel module is very picky with how it acts sometimes
[05:49] <malice_> OK, I did something stupid so dont tell me I did But I went into Synaptic Package, settings then to repositories then install media then my mouse on my laptop was on delete and it deleted the first 3 on this menu, would anyone please tell me what the efirst 3 are ?
[05:49] <malice_> please help
[05:49] <ladydoor> Homer: wget http://*
[05:49] <rshadarack> kitche: then why do I have no wireless networks to select from in properties?
[05:49] <Homer> ladydoor: thanks
[05:49] <ladydoor> Homer: no problem
[05:49] <quintok> hi guys, I'm trying to set a mime-type icon and I (through apparent ignorance) had trouble finding any decent explinations on the subject, can someone point me in a better direction please
[05:49] <minerale> Ok, I just installed ubuntu on a notebook, but the resolution was wrong, so I ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and now x won't even start anymore, are there any guides that help for this on the website ?
[05:50] <ladydoor> Homer: you might also be interested in this:  http://www.shibumi.org/eoti.htm
[05:50] <kitche> rshadarack: as I said you need to know the ESSID or install wifi-radar which will scan for wireless networks it won't auto pick up the networks
[05:50] <ladydoor> Homer: (it's the end of the internet)
[05:50] <TheH> anyone can point me where to go for a 6600gt component video HDTV setting?
[05:50] <yome> Hi.  I'd like to install Ubuntu on a laptop with no cd-rom.  What's my best option: do an install through the network, or can I boot using an usb key?
[05:51] <rshadarack> Is there a way I can easily find out the ESSID?
[05:51] <carpediem> rshadarack: you would see it if you are broadcasting it.
[05:51] <rshadarack> carpediem: not sure what you mean
[05:51] <kitche> rshadarack: use wifi-radar it's a good tool
[05:52] <dibblego> how do I find out from which locations a file is symlinked to?
[05:52] <carpediem> kitche: he should connect to an essid without wifi-radar.
[05:52] <TheMoebius> hey what is the best way to upgrade to edgy? this is just my testing box so I'm willng to do a complete fresh install but is there a livecd for edgy yet?
[05:52] <carpediem> kitche: the fact that he's not either means a) he's not broadcasting the essid or b) his driver isn't working.
[05:52] <kitche> carpediem: yes I know the reason his router might be set up to hide the ESSID like mine is set up
[05:53] <carpediem> rshadarack: try "sudo iwconfig essid any"
[05:53] <peija-kas> TheMoebius there is a prerelease Edgy cd already
[05:53] <carpediem> rshadarack: sorry scratch that
[05:53] <peija-kas> TheMoebius but theres still BREAKAGE :D
[05:53] <kitche> carpediem: first he has to activate the device
[05:53] <carpediem> rshadarack: "sudo iwconfig ath0 essid any" where ath0 is your wireless device.
[05:53] <peija-kas> im running Edgy in a virtual machine
[05:54] <ISOLATEDViRuS> if i run the RM command to remove files, are the files moved to the trash bin?
[05:54] <peija-kas> no
[05:54] <peija-kas> theyre deletd at once
[05:54] <link_36p>  I get an error from gdm saying my xgl xsession script deosnt exist, but this olny happens when trying to logon as additional users ive created besides the original account :(
[05:54] <ISOLATEDViRuS> jesus freaking christ.
[05:54] <ISOLATEDViRuS> is there a way to undo it?
[05:54] <rshadarack> car, I got no output from that command
[05:54] <theseek3r> aysiu<-- whoever this is on ubuntuforums, thank you very much for your help
[05:54] <peija-kas> so dont mess  up with rm, especially with sudo rm ;)
[05:54] <kitche> ISOLATEDViRuS: use a filemanager
[05:54] <peija-kas> ISOLATED - theres no way to undo, no easy way at least
[05:55] <minerale> I just installed ubuntu on my laptop and I'm having trouble setting up the x server, could someone help ... pleaseeee ?
[05:55] <kitche> ISOLATEDViRuS: at least then it should put them in the trash bin
[05:55] <Dittohead> ISOLATEDViRuS, 'man rm' is your friend
[05:55] <peija-kas> u may get something back from the disk with some recovery prg, dont know about em
[05:55] <ladydoor> ISOLATEDViRuS: no. that's why you use rm. if you want a trashcan, you can always use a graphical program like nautilus.
[05:55] <TheH> Anyone please to point me where to configure my 6600gt component video to work with my hdtv please
[05:55] <carpediem> theseek3r: well, the odd thing is that your files shouldn't become owned by someone else unless, unless you did something pretty funky.
[05:55] <TheH> anyone that has done this with video cards?
[05:56] <Dittohead> ISOLATEDViRuS, Always read a man page before running commands at the terminal. You can screw things up bad otherwise. I've done some bad rm's in my day if you makes feel any better :)
[05:56] <spuddogg_> kitche, i marked the madwifi package in synaptec for reinstallation, and now my card is working perfectly
[05:56] <bruenig> ISOLATEDViRuS, if you want to move something to the trash, you can just do mv file ~/.Trash
[05:56] <carpediem> theH: I have, but it took a ton of work to get the right modeline.
[05:56] <TheMoebius> peija-kas, where do I get the edgy prerelease cd - its not on the download pages
[05:56] <theseek3r> carpediem: i really haven't tried to give ownership to someone else, i don't know how to do it anyway
[05:57] <peija-kas> TheMoebius just a sec
[05:57] <bruenig> TheMoebius, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/edgy/knot-3/
[05:57] <kitche> spuddogg_: ah your using madwifi I never used it it's either native or ndiswrapper since native works for me
[05:57] <TheH> I don;t know where to start
[05:57] <peija-kas> damn bruenig was faster :)
[05:57] <theseek3r> carpediem: maybe some of the many tutorials to install stuff could have done this??
[05:57] <bruenig> google knot 3 download
[05:57] <peija-kas> TheMoebius..but dont use it for main OS :)
[05:57] <ISOLATEDViRuS> so there is no way to reverse this?
[05:57] <spuddogg_> kitche, madwifi is built into ubuntu nowadays.  people are replacing it because the driver built in does not support packet injecting
[05:57] <TheH> I did a lot on fedira all I could get was to make it look good in 720p but only in a 4:3 kinda screen
[05:57] <bruenig> ISOLATEDViRuS, no
[05:57] <peija-kas> ive seen some bugginess in testing with virtual machine
[05:58] <aSt3raL> whats the unofficial channel on this server?
[05:58] <carpediem> theseek3r: Something caused your .gconf files to be owned by someone else, which is out of the ordinary.
[05:58] <Dittohead> ISOLATEDViRuS, No. rm removes things. Permanently.
[05:58] <TheMoebius> peija-kas, thx. yeah, i know its just my extra testing box
[05:58] <peija-kas>  #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:58] <aSt3raL> where you can talk about off topic stuff?
[05:58] <bruenig> #ubuntu-offtopic maybe you are talking about
[05:58] <aSt3raL> thanks
[05:58] <kitche> spuddogg_: I used native but it works it seems for me but I m more of a power user you can say
[05:58] <spuddogg_> kitche, what do you mean by native?
[05:58] <rshadarack> to whoever was helping me, I got wifi radar and it recognized no networks
[05:58] <quintok> hi guys, I'm trying to set a mime-type icon and I (through apparent ignorance) had trouble finding any decent explinations on the subject, can someone point me in a better direction please
[05:59] <theseek3r> carpediem: i understand, but i cannot explain how this happened. i hope i haven't got any security problems, i am on dsl and dynamic ip...
[05:59] <ladydoor> ISOLATEDViRuS: if you want to temporarily remove things, you can always do mv filename .Trash
[05:59] <kitche> spuddogg_: don't have to use a wrapper to make my wireless to work
[05:59] <ladydoor> ISOLATEDViRuS: if you have a .Trash dir in your home dir
[05:59] <redblades> hi all, I just (as root) deleted some inportant info.
[05:59] <spuddogg_> kitche, ok, you're that good with c/c++ then?
[05:59] <redblades> Is there any way to retrieve it?
[05:59] <carpediem> TheH: naw....someone would've done far worse than that
[06:00] <carpediem> whoops
[06:00] <kitche> spuddogg_: I help work on another distro
[06:00] <aSt3raL> does ubuntu have a ppc kernel?
[06:00] <carpediem> theseek3r: : naw....someone would've done far worse than that
[06:00] <spuddogg_> kitche, well, to make it easy for me to understand, we'll just call you a nerd.  lol ;)
[06:00] <DarkMageZ> aSt3raL, there is a ppc version of ubuntu
[06:00] <bruenig> aSt3raL, yes
[06:00] <bruenig> or what DarkMageZ said
[06:00] <redblades> Is it possible to recover data from ext2 ?
[06:01] <spuddogg_> kitche, thanks for the help...i'm sure i'll bother you again in the near future.
[06:01] <aSt3raL> ok
[06:01] <theseek3r> carpediem: let's just hope so until i gather the knoledge to understand security issues in linux. Thank you and the other guy for your help!
[06:01] <ladydoor> redblades: what did you delete?
[06:01] <TheH> but you did get it to work right? you get full weidescrel 16:9 on your tv?
[06:02] <redblades> ladydoor a whole heap of emails
[06:02] <DarkMageZ> aSt3raL, see http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/ :P
[06:02] <goldenmyst> How do I install epiphany extensions?
[06:02] <ladydoor> redblades: oh dear. yeah, sorry, i don't know
[06:02] <redblades> Gah
[06:02] <carpediem> theseek3r: I wouldn't worry much about security, as long as you run the updates when Ubuntu has them, you should be good.
[06:02] <aSt3raL> ok
[06:02] <aSt3raL> i dont need one yet
[06:02] <SillyZ> gevening
[06:02] <bruenig> goldenmyst, do extensions exist?
[06:02] <aSt3raL> i was wondering if itd run on this: http://www.kurobox.com/revolution/what.html
[06:02] <goldenmyst> bruenig: Yes, they do.
[06:03] <goldenmyst> I'm surprised I can't find them in Synaptic.
[06:03] <bruenig> there isn't some dialog like firefox accessible from the menus?
[06:03] <kitche> redblades: there is a way but it's easier to use a live cd to do it
[06:03] <RyuRhRt> help
[06:03] <carpediem> TheH: I have widescreen, 540p (which is the same fundamentally as 1080i).
[06:03] <ladydoor> goldenmyst: there's a package. search in synaptic for epiphany
[06:03] <RyuRhRt> how to stop x server after it start?
[06:03] <bruenig> send epiphany is basically firefox
[06:04] <carpediem> TheH: running from composite, mythtv with an HDTV tuner card.
[06:04] <bruenig> at least as far as rendering and a lot of the code base goes
[06:04] <kitche> RyuRhRt: stop gdm and shut down X
[06:04] <theseek3r> carpediem: ok! I do the updates all the time. It's just that it's a whole new world to me, linux that is..!
[06:04] <surface> RyuRhRt:  ps aux and pin point the x server and use kill -9 xserver uid
[06:04] <goldenmyst> ladydoor: It doesn't show up here.
[06:04] <carpediem> TheH: I had 1080i running for a while, but I switched back to 540p because it seems to take less cpu but is identical in quality.
[06:04] <TheH> nice, so where can I start to configure this?
[06:04] <redblades> kitche I have many Live CDs...
[06:04] <ladydoor> goldenmyst: actually, close synaptic and in a terminal do sudo apt-get install epiphany-extensions
[06:04] <kitche> surface: it will restart as long as gdm is set up to start automatically
[06:04] <DarkMageZ> aSt3raL, does that thing even have a cdrom drive?
[06:05] <ladydoor> !epiphany-extensions
[06:05] <TheH> oh cool
[06:05] <ubotu> epiphany-extensions: Extensions for Epiphany web browser. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 383 kB, installed size 1964 kB
[06:05] <kitche> redblades I know backtrack can do it
[06:05] <TheH> even better than 720p?
[06:05] <carpediem> theseek3r: was a new world for me 3 years ago.  You'll be an expert before you know it.
[06:05] <difeta> Does there exist a program that will help me push configuration changes to all the ubuntu desktops in my building?
[06:05] <redblades> kitche can you walk me through it?
[06:05] <aSt3raL> DarkMageZ:  no
[06:05] <surface> kitche:  then kill gdm as well
[06:05] <aSt3raL> whoa
[06:05] <kitche> redblades: think there is a readme about it on backtrack's webpage
[06:06] <redblades> uhhh... okay... link?
[06:06] <DarkMageZ> aSt3raL, you should beable to get ubuntu running on that thing, you'd probably have to do a network install or something
[06:06] <goldenmyst> ladydoor: That seems to work. Thanks
[06:06] <theseek3r> carpediem: anyways, nice talking to you, have a nice day! It's 7:06 am here in Greece. :)
[06:06] <ladydoor> goldenmyst: sweet
[06:07] <carpediem> theseek3r: nice talking to you, good luck.
[06:07] <redblades> kitche ??
[06:07] <carpediem> TheH: let me see if I can dig up the guide I used....
[06:07] <kitche> redblades hang on getting it
[06:07] <redblades> Oka
[06:07] <TheH> thanks I really appreciate that
[06:08] <carpediem> TheH: ah yes, this is for Fedora, but it woks for us too.  http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/mythhd.php.  I just kept messing with the line until I got what I wanted, because I don't have any Windows machines to run Powerstrip.
[06:08] <kitche> redblades: hmm you cna look up auditar also
[06:09] <redblades> kitche  I should mention, I'm on dialup...
[06:09] <TheH> well I did that the powestrip
[06:09] <TheH> yesturday on fedora
[06:09] <theseek3r> carpediem, thank you, seize the day!
[06:09] <carpediem> TheH: no, 720p is better than either 1080i or 540p.  But I don't have that.
[06:10] <kitche> redblades: http://www.remote-exploit.org/index.php/Auditor_tools#Forensics
[06:10] <carpediem> TheH: so if you can get 720p, go for that.
[06:10] <TheH> I did the powestrip with windows for fedora and the modelines did anything
[06:10] <TheH> on fedora I could get the 720p picture to work, meaning no bluescreen, but the size was like a 4:3
[06:11] <TheH> with modelines it was the same
[06:11] <redblades> kitche that's just a list...
[06:11] <kitche> redblades: it shows programs that you can use though
[06:12] <kitche> reblades: try apt-get install recover
[06:12] <redblades> kitche Hrm... :|
[06:12] <carpediem> TheH: sec, I'll tell you how to troubleshoot
[06:13] <TheH> awesome thank you!
[06:13] <minerale> how can I install the native ati driver on my notebook ?
[06:13] <kitche> redblades: recover is used to recover files from a ext2 partition
[06:13] <kitche> !ati > minerale