[06:03] <cryptopsy> hellooooo cambodia!
[13:03] <dscassel> 9_9
[14:46]  * genii-around prepares a new bodum of strong Arabica coffee
[16:11] <genii-around> Hey! No one has sent any cupcake recipes or flavours they'd like to mailing list!
[16:50] <dscassel> You could try poking them again...
[16:56] <genii-around> Heh
[16:56]  * dscassel doesn't have any recipes and can't eat cupcakes anyway ;_;
[16:57] <genii-around> dscassel: I was down in your neck of the woods this weekend, Cambridge, to see my mom. Thought about visiting Kitchener but pretty busy with Easter and my nephews
[16:57] <dscassel> I was out of town anyway. :)
[16:57] <genii-around> Ah
[16:58] <dscassel> Did you grow up in Cambridge?
[16:58] <genii-around> No. Mostly in London
[16:59] <dscassel> Ah. Cool.
[17:00] <genii-around> My mom found work in Cambridge and moved there a while ago. My sisters live in London, and Sarnia
[17:52] <dscassel> I'm a transplant in SW Ontario m'self.
[17:53] <dscassel> I grew up in Belleville (which is where I spent the weekend)
[18:54]  * BobJonkman1 wonders if anyone from the KW area actually /is/ from the KW area
[19:07] <dscassel> BobJonkman1: I've met a few. But they do seem to be the exception rather than the rule.
[19:08] <BobJonkman1> Not me....
[19:08] <BobJonkman1> Meaning, I'm from the KW area but not from the KW area also.
[19:09] <BobJonkman1> And if I've met anyone otherwise, I didn't know it.
[19:09] <BobJonkman1> (I think the weekend's overdose of chocolate must be fermenting in my brain)
[19:12] <dscassel> There are worse things... :)


[16:52] <smoser> anyone see or used gerrithub.io ?
[16:59] <kwadronaut> not my favorite
[16:59] <kwadronaut> great is that you don't need to setup nor maintain gerrit yourself of course
[17:00] <kwadronaut> but gerrit is slow, java, confusing ui, slow in firefox.
[17:00] <kwadronaut> just my personal opinion
[17:01] <smoser> kwadronaut, i agree on gerrit.
[17:01] <smoser> :)
[17:01] <smoser> but i was asking about gerrithub
[17:02] <smoser> if i accept that i "need" gerrit.
[17:02] <kwadronaut> there was something else, which i forgot what it was, i'll check later today if i can find my notes back
[17:03] <kwadronaut> (we don't use it, but considered it, so i might have ditched the notes..)
[17:03] <smoser> kwadronaut, that'd be great. thanks.
[17:03] <kwadronaut> obviously, if you *have* to use gerrit, it's less painful as maintaining yourself ;-)
[17:03] <smoser> right. i do not want to maintain anything.
[17:03] <smoser> ever.
[17:05] <kwadronaut> (-:
[19:01] <alexpilotti> smoser: around by any chance?
[19:01] <alexpilotti> from #openstack-infra, the CLA topic:
[19:01] <alexpilotti> fungi: reed: awesome--thanks! stackforge+icla is a muddy topic. some projects working their way toward official status seem to want to start with icla enforcement to avoid annoying contact problems getting approval from original contributors later, others add it because they're cargo cultists
[19:02] <alexpilotti> I’ve been redirected to the legal ML, going to have some fun!
[19:05] <alexpilotti> fungi added also: “but we've never recommended/required it for them”
[19:17]  * gholms can't wait for that CLA to go away entirely
[19:17] <smoser> alexpilotti, hey.
[19:17] <smoser> here.
[19:17] <smoser> http://ubuntu-smoser.blogspot.com/2014/12/snappy-ubuntu-core-and-cloud-init.html
[19:17] <smoser> alexpilotti, still there ?
[19:18] <smoser> would gerrithub.io be sufficient for what you're after ?
[19:18] <smoser> essentially it provides free gerrit for github projects.


[01:07] <guiverc> thanks teward (you won't know why.. but I don't think that matters; your general care of the community!)
[01:25] <teward> o.O
[02:43] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[02:44] <cartdrige> hey
[02:44] <cartdrige> you know what's missing in Ubuntu?
[02:45] <cartdrige> And that's a japanese man who told me about it, ...sexy male wallpapers with fat mustache out of the box.
[02:45] <cartdrige> and turtles or mushrooms.
[02:45] <cartdrige> :P
[02:46] <lotuspsychje> we had mushrooms wallpaper on ubuntu before i think
[02:46] <lotuspsychje> for the other 2 you will need to contest yourself :p
[02:46] <cartdrige> gimp has that too as splashscreen lol.
[02:48] <cartdrige> lotuspsychje, are you a dev? worked on an app in the official repositories or something?
[02:48] <lotuspsychje> cartdrige: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/03/14-community-wallpapers-ubuntu-14-04
[02:49] <sarnold> there's no "fireman calendar" desktop background packages??
[02:49] <lotuspsychje> no, im an lts bug hunter regular user
[02:49] <cartdrige> okay.
[02:50] <lotuspsychje> lol sarnold
[08:05] <murmel> goddard: I agree, but at the same time, ubuntu has at least a fix where the bluetooth button doesn't disappear just because you disable bt
[08:24] <murmel> ogra: man I didn't know someone needs 6 hrs of support (with 4 people total) just to remove snapd :)
[08:24] <murmel> to be fair, his install was quite broken, (snap doesn't let me remove stuff without removing other software which depends on it)
[08:59] <ogra> murmel, haha, yeah, that was a really demanding "customer"
[08:59] <ogra> and the system was a total mess through installing random desktops galore
[11:09] <murmel> ogra: definitely. oh well. at least he seems to have figured it out
[11:09] <murmel> ogra: pm for a q?
[14:42] <wez> Lets discus
[14:42] <wez> s
[18:19] <lotuspsychje> leftyfb oerheks last week we had a user reporting updates installed this oracle/oem kernel
[18:20] <leftyfb> yep
[18:20] <leftyfb> https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/zawvlv/ubuntu_insists_on_installing_the_oracle_kernel/
[18:21] <lotuspsychje> then we found a few email lists too; https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2022-January/041805.html
[18:23] <lotuspsychje> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2020-January/002478.html
[18:23] <leftyfb> neither of those links mention the word "oracle"
[18:28] <oerheks> i just read this https://askubuntu.com/questions/1443718/ubuntu-22-04-only-boot-normally-via-recovery-mode
[18:28] <oerheks> also no answer how did it install
[18:30] <lotuspsychje> i think the user was talking to alkisg last week about it
[18:31] <oerheks> ;There are a few reports of this in the Ubuntu subreddit. Seems to be associated with the latest nvidia drivers. Likely a bug.; ...
[18:31] <oerheks> worth checking?
[18:32] <oerheks> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2481578&p=14121691
[19:21] <arraybolt3> !ping
[19:21] <arraybolt3> Just doing a network test, thanks for your patience
[19:23] <lotuspsychje> we see you arraybolt3 :p
[19:23] <arraybolt3> :)


[06:39] <flocculant> ochosi: seems to be ok this morning *shrug*
[10:55] <ochosi> flocculant: ok then let's forget about it for now :)
[12:15] <flocculant> ochosi: that was my plan :D
[12:16] <flocculant> I will over the next few days list things - entirely possible they're expected of course
[17:24] <pleia2> flocculant: you have a fan :) https://twitter.com/Rocky1138/status/762824554083385344
[17:58] <flocculant> pleia2: :)
[18:02] <knome> how does that tweet relate to whether flocculant has a fan or not.. isn't the climate in his house much more appropriate?
[19:40] <ochosi> yay, someone bisected the intel driver
[20:52] <Unit193> Finally.
[20:54] <ochosi> we'll see whether that is reason enough to backport it
[21:52] <bluesabre> ochosi: hooray!


[00:12] <ghuntley12> https://www.lessloss.com/blackbody-p-200.html
[00:12] <ubrl> ghuntley12: ⇪ Blackbody : Ambient field conditioner | Audiophile power conditioner | Audio power cables by LessLoss
[00:12] <ghuntley12> i've never thought of using dd for string manipulation. I just use it to make verbatim copies of windows installs for my family so I can just swap a hard drive when thing go wrong
[00:12] <ghuntley12> I have significantly more interest in mathematical exposition than mathematical research.
[00:29] <iIlL10oO> bash 这个怎么写: a=realpath "1.txt"; echo $a
[00:49] <Camnora3> you're mom is a hexadecimal
[01:02] <KombuchaKip15> I have clearly been learning my koans - that's all I know about nvi though
[01:02] <KombuchaKip15> 255M    /usr/portage/distfiles/firefox-61.0.source.tar.xz
[01:02] <KombuchaKip15> there used to be both a 2nd and 3rd avenue el; now they have only just opened the first little bit of the 2nd ave subway
[01:12] <iIlL10oO> 去 #bash 问了，解决了
[01:37] <nick_b> a difference worth mentioning, is that i run intel only this time. And someone mentioned that the VGA port is hardwired to the discrete nvidia card. Is that nonsense?
[01:37] <nick_b> Door handles, desks, chairs, that broad got radiation everywhere
[01:37] <nick_b> provisioning vms :P
[01:40] <Jaex23> Time-Warp: thanks
[01:40] <Jaex23> is there a way to only reencode the chroma components?
[01:41] <Jaex23> i mean, that there is no finite group with subgroup having index whatever
[01:41] <Jaex23> ahh.. vor 11h haben sie angefangen für ein neues release vorzubereiten.. ich vermute da fehlen noch Dinge und der Guide ist schon updated
[01:42] <zveda28> arahael: yeah! previously we'd stick in 'undefined' and read the type error
[01:42] <zveda28>  Just 14
[01:42] <zveda28> unyu: the higher homotopy group's multiplication is only up to homotopy iirc
[02:00] <Juri_Agarin> @free foo :: Int -> Int
[02:00] <Juri_Agarin> paulo_: Why would only one bit be 1? Why would it represent move 1,1->1,2? Do you want a way to represent other moves?
[02:00] <Juri_Agarin> read is cheap, write is where the cost comes in
[02:02] <mudkip1123_> since the bugs don't affect new installs it's not necessary to get them on a new iso
[02:02] <mudkip1123_> So yeah, that dev board is essentially only intended for people that want to get custom silicon made with their cores
[02:02] <mudkip1123_> My point is that it makes sense to talk in term of probabilities, not certainty.
[02:02] <mudkip1123_> pragma-, some of the spammers in here pm'ing me thier shit
[02:52] <d4gg4d_7> ah, ^ i meant "that sounds like i could pack them down from 25 bytes to at least 17 bytes" *
[02:52] <d4gg4d_7> may you reach enlightenment
[02:52] <d4gg4d_7> Zexaron: badblocks
[02:52] <d4gg4d_7> or grep
[03:02] <lanceball5> z^2 has order 2, so z^2 must equal -1 = b^3. (Otherwise x^2 - 1 would have three distinct roots: 1, z^2, b^3, contradiction)
[03:02] <deslux> And such
[03:02] <lanceball5> I'm wondering if there's some parser combinator that'll restrict hexadecimal to consume at most two bytes.
[03:02] <deslux> koz_: the book release is only 2 months old so there may be more coming too, especially if more interest is shown
[03:02] <lanceball5> cocreature: The resized version may be a list or an array, I just want to access the values as in line 20
[03:02] <deslux> so it also wastes a bit of human time waiting on downloads at each install
[03:02] <lanceball5> https://git-scm.com/docs/pack-format
[03:02] <ubrl> lanceball5: ⇪ Git - pack-format Documentation
[03:02] <deslux> Houses sell for $1.5M without basements because basements cost too much.
[03:02] <deslux> I imported these images into photoshop and saved the video, and it can be played back everywhere
[03:04] <iSaul8> :h window-resizing and so on
[03:04] <iSaul8> I am confident that the utility and beauty of big endian date expression will eventually cause it to dominate in all places. I don't demand adoption by anyone specifically.
[03:04] <iSaul8> i'm working to put the aggregator tech back into the core canopy code base
[03:04] <iSaul8> it's fairly easy actually
[03:04] <iSaul8> oh, a bluetooth speaker?
[03:04] <iSaul8> before april forks
[03:12]  * pity 这里居然有人说话了，还是英文的 :D
[03:14] <Ingmar0> thanks, i'll try to get the command arduino uses
[03:14] <Ingmar0>  "What\8217s going on here"
[03:14] <Ingmar0> Thank you guys.
[03:14] <Ingmar0> Here I come Spivak!
[03:15] <Ingmar0> cmouse: "iq test is funny in a way because it only measures very particular-kind of ability"  Yes.  Your ability to write IQ tests.  It's a VERY specific test.
[03:24] <lh_not_bot4> :t \p -> getAlt . foldMap (Alt . bool pure (pure empty) p)
[03:24] <lh_not_bot4> but LSP is still in the "fincky" stage for setup.
[03:24] <lh_not_bot4> no es necesario saber cuanto mides, para darte cuenta de que eres alta o enana
[03:24] <lh_not_bot4> or stretched
[05:47] <agd> Aremis117: :D
[05:47] <agd> Or just leave it as `a`. :)
[05:47] <agd> my question is: do i connect the audio jack ground to arduino ground ?
[05:49] <thelounge9311> darkmeson: and as said, you can change it at build time if you like
[05:49] <thelounge9311> kuz3 we don't care.
[05:49] <thelounge9311> yeah i didnt finish cause i dint see what they did
[05:56] <bourbon24> after realloc
[05:56] <bourbon24> ,books
[05:56] <bourbon24> grknight, are You Georg ?
[05:56] <bourbon24> no, LSP
[05:56] <bourbon24> i guess this book is wrong
[05:56] <bourbon24> is has been done ^^
[06:34] <carl^> i have disabled the timestamps in the chat window, but now the nicks are to much of against the wall. how would i add some spacing to the nicks in normal chatwindow/buffer (please correct me terminology if wrong)?
[06:35] <carl^> nHeck: did you try using search-by-picture services to find out?  it is possible that you will need to scale this tiny image, you can use the convert utility from ImageMagick package to do this:  int main(void) { int system(const char *);  return system("convert http://ix.io/favicon.ico -resize 512x512 out.png"); }
[06:35] <ubrl> carl^: ⇪ image/vnd.microsoft.icon
[06:35] <carl^> Sweet.
[06:35] <carl^> sorry it's "I have a", I'm Italian...
[06:35] <carl^> are they still there?
[06:38] <psychoschlumpf19> that's how they work
[06:38] <psychoschlumpf19> i need to pass data to another function
[06:38] <psychoschlumpf19> darkmeson, have I ever banned or quieted you?
[06:38] <psychoschlumpf19> of recent manufacture
[06:56] <Senji> anyway, it fails because your parens are in the wrong place
[06:56] <Senji> MiseryMyra: So these invariants.
[06:56] <Senji> maybe dash, or android's sh
[07:03] <sctc8> ,hit dave0
[07:03] <sctc8> https://discourse.nixos.org/t/nixos-18-09-jellyfish-to-be-forked-off-in-a-month
[07:03] <sctc8> regroup
[07:10] <^k^> 新  Ubuntu 16.04 LTS • 请问为什么我的x sever 不能stop？请看图！谢谢  http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=488568 <a href="http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/download/file.php?id=189856&sid=9fb675e760e8c664cd718256fb46c98a&mode=view&q
[08:29] <qptain_Nemo5> lortabac: Mmm that looks interesting, that could be the definition Im looking for. Reading the original paper from McBride and Paterson now :)
[08:29] <qptain_Nemo5> the prices are the same everywhere here
[08:29] <qptain_Nemo5> hmm that sounds more complicated. are we talking about the same thing?
[08:45] <copelco__12> what is going on?
[08:45] <ubrl> copelco__12: define:going on not defined.
[08:45] <copelco__12> after some secs I am registered
[08:45] <copelco__12> or checksum the folders
[08:45] <copelco__12> hey guys, my google-fu is failing today trying to search for an answer to this...
[08:46] <blu3r4d0n> hfp: not exactly... that is just a summary. there are components within that application and library that unattended upgrades relies on... including when a user must be notified for specific updates (usually kernel or version changes)
[08:46] <blu3r4d0n> jhodrien: yes dnsmasq
[08:46] <blu3r4d0n> now all i can think of is "Das Weg zum Lesen!"
[08:46] <blu3r4d0n> unless you're talking about Banach manifolds or something
[08:46] <blu3r4d0n> had many problems with arduino "c++" and their libraries. Classes didn't work well with peripherals
[08:46] <blu3r4d0n> the "trait" defines an interface; get_name() in it is a class-level method because it doesn't take a reference to self
[08:47] <G0Y019> ))
[08:47] <G0Y019> Eightynine you should see Cinnamon
[08:47] <G0Y019> Okay, does anyone know where the replace current file option in VLC went?
[08:47] <G0Y019> retrosenator: Awesome!
[08:47] <G0Y019> they chose their orientation
[08:48] <G0Y019> I'm currently using my old defective laptop as a headless server :)
[08:50] <^k^> 新  初学者园地 - Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver) • 安装ubuntu找不到引导怎么办，用boot-repair修复也不成功  http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=488569 安装了ubuntu但是找不到引导怎么办，用boot-repair修复也不成功。 统计信息: 发表于 由 姿颜与才华 — 2018-09-28 16:44
[09:11] <hamishmack21> Interesting/random combo...
[09:11] <hamishmack21> Random quote (#132): !quote
[09:11] <hamishmack21> Updated to iOS 12 and now my iPhone thinks I have a +86 calling code phone number (+86 is for China)
[09:11] <hamishmack21> it also has a ligher functor thing, wrapping a function or something
[09:12] <hamishmack21> Yes, that works
[09:12] <hamishmack21> eliminate all false positives.
[09:13] <riveter> means that the equals sign in haskell definitions is an actual equals sign in your brain
[09:13] <riveter> just use a hook?
[09:13] <riveter> MrElendig: I'm gonna try it again and give you the dmesg.
[09:20] <bernhardgruen18> that's the scope I have, except mine is a lot cleaner
[09:20] <bernhardgruen18> ok, here is the final version; https://lpaste.net/1091699344257581056
[09:20] <bernhardgruen18> it's a complicated installer. It installed nvidia's ubuntu fork onto a custom board with arm on it. needed a host computer to do that...
[09:25] <dfarrell0717> hey guys... I screwed up apt somehow, I ran the following command: apt install gcc build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) - it's now 'core dumping' due a bad system call... apt refuses to do anything else and goes right back to it if I try to dpkg --configure -a
[09:25] <dfarrell0717> does sp3 require sp2 before installing?
[09:25] <dfarrell0717> ppf: it really allows me to copy a part of source vector anywhere in destination vector?
[09:42] <mazzanet12> za1b1tsu: where p.code = ''
[09:42] <mazzanet12> Score! I'll go claim the points
[09:42] <mazzanet12> only really has a use on OEM preinstalled windows.
[09:42] <mazzanet12> faLUCE, that is certainly a solution
[09:45] <ThisAsYou6> 64gb but check 512gb
[09:45] <ThisAsYou6> ctrl+f "Range-Based For-Loops"
[09:45] <ThisAsYou6> section 21 in chapter 4 is what i referred to
[10:00] <LiftedKilt23> So maybe something like pinMode(4, INPUT);
[10:01] <LiftedKilt23> kurly: https://bugs.gentoo.org/649242 "games-util/antimicro-2.20.2 : /.../SDL_config.h:33:26: fatal error: SDL_platform.h: No such file or directory"; Gentoo Linux, Current packages; CONF; toralf:games
[10:01] <LiftedKilt23> do these have to be metric spaces?
[10:01] <ubrl> ⇪ f: 49242 – games-util/antimicro-2.20.2 : /.../SDL_config.h:33:26: fatal error: SDL_platform.h: No such file or directory
[10:01] <LiftedKilt23> I'm moving from Arch > NixOS so I don't have to deal with breaking packages every few weeks.
[10:18] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: http://xiaohua.zol.com.cn/detail1/15612.html 需要地勤 : 蝙蝠的二女儿准备嫁给鼹鼠,家里十分反对。 妈妈说:"嫁谁不行,偏要嫁给那个高度近视的家伙！ " 爸爸却不同意:"它干地下工作比谁都行,反正我们航空部门也需要地勤,就凑和吧！ "
[10:21] <Afterster17> I made it work with LC-n, and as far as I remember it works well with ale
[10:21] <Afterster17> It's output from a command.  OK.  We can work from there.  What does this output LOOK like?
[10:21] <Afterster17> and I think you need -w or nano corrupts long lines by insanely inserting a newline for long lines
[11:40] <^k^> 新  Ubuntu 16.04 LTS • ubuntu16.04多用户权限问题  http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=488570 我的笔记本安装了ubuntu16.04，有一个非root账户aaa，并且给aaa账户禁止了sudo。 现在aaa用户登陆后，图形界面配置IP等网络信息需要输入root密码。 请问能不能给aaa账户赋予 不输入root密码就能使用图形
[11:40] <^k^>  ─> 界面配置IP地址等信息的权限？ 有没有大神给我解答一下 统计信息: 发表于 由 thalia — …
[11:42] <Logicwrath9> for you, it usually makes code more readable?
[11:42] <Logicwrath9> or more beer
[12:37] <toxync0425> (or better yet, find a different goal, because this is insane)
[12:37] <toxync0425> it's some inkjet 3-in-one monstrosity
[12:37] <toxync0425> for the curious: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFqZpANIpBA&t=35
[12:37] <ubrl> toxync0425: ⇪ How Tempered Glass is made by PRL Glass Systems Inc. - YouTube
[13:02] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 奇 迹 : 一老师在解释"奇迹"一词时,举了一例:一人从八楼跳下,竞毫发未损。他希望学生出"奇迹"。 可一同学回答:幸运。 老师很失望,于是说:此人爬上八楼,又跳下,还是未受伤。 犴一同学回答:偶然。 老师非常气愤,只好又说:那人再次爬上八楼,又跳下来…… 还
[13:02] <^k^>  ─> 未等老师说完,就有同学答道:他习惯了。
[13:05] <Findar> 哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈
[13:37] <fiesh2> i don't have pacemaker but i wear hearing aids
[13:37] <fiesh2> stef204: as you provided your wifi card details now i am simply asking about your router information too , so that i can open up my mind to undertsand the whole picture
[13:37] <fiesh2> thrig: which command exactly?
[14:03] <alpha_sh> Neepu: I'm almost certain that the cr doesn't matter either
[14:03] <alpha_sh> RenaRouge, sí
[14:03] <alpha_sh> not much of that kind of work this end of the world
[14:32] <nmz78712> (and it is insane)
[14:32] <nmz78712> nod*
[14:32] <nmz78712> http://paste.debian.net/1043491/
[14:32] <nmz78712> it doesn't strictly need an rtc
[14:32] <nmz78712> BIOS has both legacy and uefi boot enabled with uefi being the first choise
[16:14] <varunest> Hamilton: that looks familiar
[16:15] <varunest> my /init is a sh script
[16:15] <varunest> so that way e.g. 3 email aliases point to single mailbox?
[16:15] <varunest> int-e: so in my questions whole theory T must be true then.
[16:15] <varunest> Jan-: it's asymptotic. you get 20% of remaining hair each time
[16:15] <varunest> Alexander K: Ah, maybe thre is an old stock someplace.  But 3D Printers are getting pick-n-place soldering.  So a small producttion run fabrication should be possible.
[16:25] <Brigo9> Announced on the mailing lists.
[16:25] <Brigo9> hmm, 444 vs 418 vs redirect to infowars
[16:25] <Brigo9> look at the "Precious Guardian" thing
[16:55] <runeks7> well, it's definitaly deinterlaced now
[16:55] <runeks7> philipp64: if LESS is set, it needs to include R
[16:55] <runeks7> ntd: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-4.19-rc4-Released
[16:55] <ubrl> ⇪ t: Linux 4.19-rc4 Released As Linus Temporarily Steps Away From Kernel Maintainership - Phoronix
[16:55] <runeks7> Xann: you could help testing sure, try previous or a newer kernel always helps
[16:55] <runeks7> if you enable pbo/oc it ye
[17:06] <peetaur227> they have timings for 2133~3200
[17:06] <peetaur227> how do I do something like 'tail -f /var/log/*log' but not include a file?
[17:06] <peetaur227> friendofafriend: what role would the arduino play in that?
[17:24] <grepory9> youyou: Ascend Sierra 2 * 3
[17:24] <grepory9> My question is: why are you using new, delete and a C style array
[17:24] <grepory9> Oh so NOT the entire = one piece of coppers then
[17:41] <jason_11> what is that, vim's default colorscheme :P
[17:41] <jason_11> lin_noob, most ceos give themselves a low salary anyways. as low as $1 a year.
[17:41] <jason_11> leewz, you can get the GHC version with the CPP language extension, this is want you want in most cases
[19:04] <avdi7> I'm only interested in falling edges, so I filter out the raising edges by remembering the old value.
[19:04] <avdi7> ya, me2   o.O
[19:04] <avdi7> ovpn plus easy-rsa for the keys is pretty solid by default.
[19:09] <cthuluh2> and it is probably a unsuitable choice for the whole study group. Garling's book is terse and requires maturity to do proofs...
[19:09] <cthuluh2> I downloaded it to /. But, it is not clear how to make the bootloader load it by default.
[19:09] <cthuluh2> When I install some package that pauses to prompt for a value, then I later uninstall that package, how can I have it prompt me again when I reinstall? Seems if I just do "apt remove" and "apt install" it remembers what I entered last time. Where are those values stored?
[19:09] <cthuluh2> even though -m has such a far out explanation in the man page
[19:09] <cthuluh2> We do stuff like this for watching Rails logs: https://gitlab.com/gitlab-cookbooks/gitlab-mtail/blob/master/files/default/mtail/unicorn.mtail#L16
[19:09] <ubrl> cthuluh2: ⇪ files/default/mtail/unicorn.mtail · master · gitlab-cookbooks / gitlab-mtail · GitLab
[19:10] <cthuluh2> Hm my bt keyboard seems to have "healed", the app switching bug is gone. I don't believe in miracles. Anyone heard of a virus which heals bluetooth bugs....
[19:18] <UTAN_dev17> I just thought that it might be technically possible to have zero args, while this would never be used in practice.
[19:18] <UTAN_dev17> But anyway, my point is, I want to pretend that some values that are const aside from very very very launch are const, legally, I mean I can use some attributes to make sure the optimizer doesn't screw up but that's not really legal in C++.
[19:18] <UTAN_dev17> hows the peasant?
[19:18] <UTAN_dev17> maybe fold it in half for some more girth? paging BradR
[20:21] <monad_cat14> But ah, I've kind of wanted to work at Google
[20:21] <monad_cat14> first, the download it progressing even though I turned off the VPN
[20:21] <monad_cat14> https://docs.python-guide.org/starting/install3/osx/  @ dff
[20:21] <ubrl> ⇪ t: Installing Python 3 on Mac OS X — The Hitchhiker's Guide to Python
[20:22] <monad_cat14> Dr_Coke: im still a galaxy j1 fan. still havent put it on the phone grid yet. btw trump is going to be calling all our cellphones on thursday
[20:41] <xintron12> btw, on some of my very creative ipsec.confs I used to build to drive developers mad, I placed a LOT of \ line continuations, since it will give you the line it doesn't like when it says "syntax error". This might help
[20:41] <xintron12> kparal: thanks. I can work with that
[20:41] <xintron12> tony[m]3: well, it's likely that your issue is channels with +r set (+r means 'unidentified users can't join')
[21:19] <cedra_> i wasn't aware that yoda was here and conversing
[21:19] <cedra_> (coming in january but paid already)
[21:19] <cedra_> srhb: grep sandbox /etc/nix/nix.co
[21:33] <zone_315> Quite specifically.
[21:33] <zone_315> Prestige: yes
[21:33] <zone_315> but thats on hynix right?
[21:43] <Jb_boin4> now, in the morning, you might want a light theme :)
[21:44] <Jb_boin4> what kind of information was leaked before?
[21:44] <Jb_boin4> but just names things like Some and Err
[21:44] <Jb_boin4> Okay, thank you
[22:13] <micronn4> _BIGSHOT_: Good catch, could have been fire.
[22:13] <micronn4> cocreature: cool, no probs
[22:14] <micronn4> Thankfully, it's all been torn out and replaced with proper enclosures
[22:14] <micronn4> dmj`: Is this related to the `.ghc.environment...` file produced by new-build?
[23:24] <robobutler3> I bet it's dead, but I'll try
[23:24] <robobutler3> tsglove: yeah, I hate when people warn against potentially dangerous ideas
[23:24] <robobutler3> zeh[m], yes the bottom of the page, you can choose rss or atom
[23:24] <robobutler3> m2_teknix: sudo /bin/true: pastebinit <( sudo apt-get update 2>&1; sudo apt-get -f --assume-no install 2>&1; sudo apt-get --assume-no install redshift redshift-gtk; )


[02:55] <rsalveti> robert_ancell: getting bug 1364725 on krillin
[02:56] <rsalveti> krillin + ubuntu-touch from proposed
[02:56] <robert_ancell> rsalveti, got the lightdm.log after it occurs?
[02:56] <rsalveti> can easily get that for you, 1 sec
[02:58] <rsalveti> robert_ancell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1364725/comments/1
[02:59] <robert_ancell> hmm, that looks normal to me
[03:00] <rsalveti> the main difference when comparing with the older one is:
[03:00] <rsalveti> [+2.00s] DEBUG: Seat: Switching to Mir session session-0
[03:00] <rsalveti> [+2.00s] DEBUG: Activating login1 session /org/freedesktop/login1/session/c2
[03:00] <rsalveti> I don't get such lines
[03:00] <rsalveti> but unity8 is running fine
[03:01] <rsalveti> let me try getting a screenshot
[03:01] <rsalveti> no, screenshot is also all black
[03:01] <robert_ancell> Right. So it's like LightDM hasn't told u-s-c that that session is ready
[03:03] <rsalveti> also added the log diff to the bug
[03:04] <robert_ancell> rsalveti, could you attach both logs as files? The diff is a bit confusing due to the timing
[03:05] <rsalveti> sure
[03:05] <robert_ancell> the diff shows more information from the log than you pasted
[03:07] <rsalveti> all attached
[03:07] <robert_ancell> rsalveti, could you also run lightdm --show-config on the device and paste that?
[03:08] <rsalveti> robert_ancell: from 1.11.6 or 1.11.7?
[03:08] <robert_ancell> 1.11.7
[03:08] <rsalveti> or doesn't make any difference
[03:08] <rsalveti> sure
[03:08] <robert_ancell> it was only introduced then
[03:08] <rsalveti> robert_ancell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1364725/comments/7
[03:09] <rsalveti> robert_ancell: this doesn't happen all the time though, sometimes unity8 shows up just fine
[03:09] <robert_ancell> oh, ok
[03:09] <rsalveti> maybe a race
[03:10] <rsalveti> let me try to get into a working state (harder than actually reproducing the bug)
[03:19] <rsalveti> robert_ancell: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/183907934/lightdm.log with 1.11.7 from a working boot
[03:20] <rsalveti> so yeah, didn't switch to mir session
[03:21] <robert_ancell> definitely a race of some sort then
[03:30] <robert_ancell> rsalveti, could you try lp:~robert-ancell/lightdm/unity-activate and see if that makes a difference?
[03:32] <robert_ancell> rsalveti, Also, looking at ~/.xsession-errors might give some clies
[03:32] <robert_ancell> clues
[03:33] <rsalveti> robert_ancell: sure
[03:45] <rsalveti> nothing useful in ~/.xsession-errors
[03:45] <rsalveti> building from your branch
[03:58] <rsalveti> robert_ancell: rebooted more than 10 times, worked fine at every time
[04:01] <robert_ancell> rsalveti, cool
[04:07] <robert_ancell> rsalveti, do you have a log from a successful boot with that change? It was just a hunch that suggested that code might have broken but it really shouldn't work...
[04:08] <rsalveti> robert_ancell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8220528/
[04:09] <robert_ancell> ah, so I was right. It's actually failed to find the logind session id which is a very bad thing (TM). That was exposing a bug that my branch fixed
[04:09] <robert_ancell> I'm working on a proper fix now
[04:10] <rsalveti> awesome
[04:35] <robert_ancell> rsalveti, could you try lp:~robert-ancell/lightdm/logind-session-id-env-var and see if that works
[04:35] <robert_ancell> This is the good fix
[04:36] <rsalveti> robert_ancell: sure
[04:49]  * robert_ancell hates the feeling when you'd seen some flaky code at some point in the past and not bothered to fix it then it comes to bite you in the butt later on...
[04:57] <rsalveti> robert_ancell: yeah, seems fine as well
[04:57] <rsalveti> unable to reproduce the issue
[04:57] <robert_ancell> rsalveti, ok, cool. I'll ship that then
[04:57] <rsalveti> robert_ancell: awesome, thanks
[04:57] <robert_ancell> Have you got a log so I can double check?
[04:58] <rsalveti> robert_ancell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8220784/
[04:58] <robert_ancell> that looks better
[05:45] <robert_ancell> rsalveti, brb, just smoke testing
[05:46] <robert_ancell> rsalveti, ok, all good. Uploaded as 1.11.8-0ubuntu1
[05:46]  * robert_ancell -> dinner
[05:46] <rsalveti> robert_ancell: awesome, thanks!
[06:23] <duflu> RAOF: Oh, the problem with SIGPIPE happens with SIGHUP too. It's just some pre-existing unreliability in the test framework - https://bugs.launchpad.net/mir/+bug/1364772
[06:23] <duflu> So we could have used SIGPIPE. Need to fix the test infrastructure tho
[06:26] <RAOF> Well, sigPIIIIIIIIIIIPE is up for review :)
[06:29] <duflu> RAOF: I know. Haven't got around to it yet
[06:33] <RAOF> That's fine; it's got a prerequisite branch anyway :)
[10:26] <Saviq> hmm guys how do you think would that be possible:
[10:26] <Saviq> unity-system-compositor: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libmirserver.so.24: undefined symbol:
[10:26] <Saviq> _ZTIN7android7RefBaseE
[10:26] <Saviq> seems libmircommon1:armhf got upgraded as I was installing unity8-autopilot
[10:26] <Saviq> (that's RTM btw)
[10:28] <Saviq> but that must've not pulled in new mirserver or so
[10:28] <ogra_> new mir isnt in rtm yet
[10:29] <ogra_> it landed in 218 in devel-proposed but didnt migrate over yet
[10:29] <Saviq> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8222494/
[10:29] <Saviq> ogra_, well, yeah, but package deps should not have allowed me to get into that state
[10:29] <Saviq> ogra_, should force upgrades where required
[10:30] <ogra_> then you need a versioned dep
[10:30] <Saviq> ogra_, as now I ended up with a mix of mir 0.6.1 and 0.7.0
[10:30] <ogra_> defining a minimal version in unity
[10:30] <Saviq> ogra_, it's not that, unity doesn't even depend on mir directly
[10:31] <ogra_> well, it also seems like the new packages migrated but arent in the image
[10:31] <ogra_> (new rtm image is currently building, so i guess that will have it)
[10:31] <Saviq> ogra_, sure, still ;)
[10:31] <Saviq> ogra_, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8222504/
[10:32] <ogra_> right, there is some dependency screw up somewhere
[10:32] <Saviq> I only asked apt to install unity8-autopilot - that pulled in libmircommon1 0.7.0, that should've pulled others with it, as there seems to have been an ABI break
[10:32] <Saviq> because u-s-c doesn't start
[10:32] <Saviq> complaining about missing symbols
[10:33] <ogra_> right
[10:33] <Saviq> *something* should've forced upgrades of the whole of mir I'd say
[10:33] <ogra_> file a bug so a dep gets added
[10:33] <Saviq> yeah, will do, just wanted some feedback from the guys here
[10:34] <anpok> hmm
[10:34] <anpok> why does qtmir-plugin only depend on mircommon?
[10:35] <anpok> i would have thought anything of qtmir needs mirserver
[10:36] <anpok> is qtmir dloading mir?
[10:37] <anpok> hm ok qtdeclarative5-qtmir-plugin only pulls in mircommon while qtmir-android adds mirserver..
[10:38] <Saviq> bug #1364890
[11:16] <greyback> anpok: qtmir-{android,desktop} needs mirserver, as that is the code which creates a mir server. qtdeclarative5-qtmir-plugin just allows Qt/QML to interact with the mir server, so needs some of the common mir stuff (mostly enums I think)
[14:17] <racarr> Good morning!
[14:21] <alf_> racarr: Hi!
[14:33] <racarr> alf_: :) How goes?
[14:34] <anpok> hm I was curious what was happening there: https://code.launchpad.net/~raof/mir/dont-kill-the-poor-clients/+merge/232971/comments/568627 but I cannot reproduce locally
[14:34] <anpok> has anybody else looked at that yet?
[14:45] <racarr> not yet