[04:05] <crimsun> stephank: there seems to be a packaging error (I've spotted at least one in debian/rules)
[04:06] <crimsun> stephank: rebuilding, will let you know what I make of it shortly
[04:06] <Fl-i-nT> does anyone know how to change the mouse theme in gconf-editor i cant find it the tree any help?
[04:06] <stephank> crimsun: okay, thanks. :)
[04:07] <SiRrUs> Myrtti whats broke today :)
[04:07] <membreya> SiRrUs: "linux - what would you like to break today"
[04:07] <dashnu> F|-i-nT, put you theme in ~/.icons/default
[04:07] <vetlebox> hi, I installed ubuntu today, and I looked for sshd, but couldn` t find it, I thought sshd was common on unix. So does that mean I have to install it?  :S
[04:08] <Myrtti> can't get sound juicer doing mp3s, nor grip -- my SO bought me yesterday a new pair of headphones to replace those he broke by stepping on them -- now I want to test them with my mp3-player, but I can't rip my Elton John CD's :-/
[04:08] <crimsun> vetlebox: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[04:08] <CarlK_> get a new SO ;)
[04:08] <membreya> vetlebox: ssh
[04:08] <membreya> if you want the client
[04:08] <vetlebox> I don` t have apt-config yet.
[04:08] <Myrtti> CarlK_: I think I'm too nerdy for most men
[04:09] <crimsun> vetlebox: why do you need apt-config?
[04:09] <vetlebox> membreya: I` m looking for the server.
[04:09] <Montagh> apt-get install SO
[04:09] <vetlebox> crimsun: Yes
[04:09] <Myrtti> if only it were that easy
[04:09] <crimsun> vetlebox: why do you need apt-config?
[04:09] <Myrtti> but really, I can't stop wondering what I should do to get that damn sound juicer to work
[04:09] <vetlebox> Because it aint any "sources" in mine that i can download from when im searching
[04:10] <vetlebox> Its no ftp`s/http`s added.
[04:10] <sandwitch> Myrtti, you have lame or another mp3 encoder installed ?
[04:10] <crimsun> vetlebox: did you install from the Internet during the Ubuntu install?
[04:10] <vetlebox> Yes I did
[04:10] <Myrtti> sandwitch: bien sur, of course I do
[04:10] <sandwitch> ok just checking :)
[04:11] <vetlebox> Where is the apt-config? So I can check
[04:11] <Myrtti> I wouldn't whine about problems here if I hadn't ;-)
[04:11] <Myrtti> but as I now run gnome-audio-profiles-properties, this goddammit thing has forgotten the mp3-thingy I just made
[04:11] <sandwitch> so what's not working the ripping part or the encoding part
[04:11] <crimsun> vetlebox: if you installed from the Internet, then sources.list is already configured
[04:12] <_BIJ_> what do i have to install in order to be able to play mp3s with totem?
[04:12] <crimsun> stephank: ping, see query please.
[04:12] <vetlebox> hmm, then it must have made a fail. Because I don`t have any sources, atleast thats what it tells me. (It cant find a anything)
[04:12] <vetlebox> where is the sources.list file? My Locate wont even work :P
[04:13] <zanaga> has anyone noticed a problem where syslog stops logging kernel messages?
[04:13] <vetlebox> sources could not open database..
[04:13] <stephank> Taraxacum: Well, there really doesn't seem to be a lynx or links package on the warty install cd. If the X server doesn't start up you could either hack it's configuration to use the VGA driver or download the lynx package now and somehow copy it over.
[04:13] <zanaga> for some reason it appears to happen on my server.
[04:13] <stephank> stephank: but most likely, it will Just Work. :)
[04:13] <sandwitch> should be in /etc/apt/sources.list vetlebox
[04:13] <dashnu> zanaga, i bet it has something to do with the logrotate
[04:14] <vetlebox> It can`t find slocate.db
[04:14] <hayden> where can i get some gcursor themes?
[04:14] <vetlebox> I guess the ubuntu install made a mistake or something.
[04:14] <Myrtti> uulalaa
[04:14] <vetlebox> Idunno
[04:15] <Codyman> i went to boot up my comp this morning and after "starting ubuntu" appeared it panic: "Exec 428 chroot not found" "Kernel Panic - Not syncing: Attempted to kill Init!"
[04:15] <Myrtti> now it understood that it would meet a XP install CD ROM if it wouldn't want to work
[04:15] <Myrtti> and decided to remember that mp3-profile
[04:16] <vetlebox> crimsun: Can`t you help me find a good sources.list? That would solve all my problems.
[04:16] <caffinated> vetlebox: did you enable the universe repos?
[04:16] <crimsun> vetlebox: your sources.list is fine.
[04:16] <crimsun> vetlebox: just sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[04:16] <Myrtti> I feel like a winner
[04:17] <vetlebox> ok
[04:17] <lrojas> hi all
[04:17] <vetlebox> oh, thanks, but anyways, how can I fix my locatye.
[04:17] <vetlebox> locate*
[04:18] <vetlebox> locate could not open database var/lib/slocate/slocate.db  No such file or directory
[04:18] <caffinated> sudo updatedb
[04:19] <vetlebox> caffinated: Thanks man.
[04:19] <caffinated> :)
[04:19] <vetlebox> crimsun: Thank for the help.
[04:19] <mirak> is there a way to force gnome to mount removable device in async mode ?
[04:19] <lrojas> sorry to bother you guys with dumb questions but, i just installed hoary hedghog preview, and while following the unnoficial starter guide i did a sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla, got the answer back that no package exist... am i doing something wrong? or was that removed from hoary?
[04:20] <ice_1963> lol
[04:20] <lrojas> ?
[04:20] <caffinated> lrojas: i was under the impression that you needed to get the plugin from macromedia
[04:20] <dashnu> i just love the screaming guitar licks in chromium :p
[04:21] <caffinated> i don't think you can get the flash plugin through the repositories
[04:21] <lrojas> not according to this : http://ubuntuguide.org/#flash-mozilla
[04:21] <caffinated> lrojas: well, i just checked mine, and i can't seem to find it
[04:21] <lrojas> :s
[04:21] <lrojas> hmmm
[04:21] <lrojas> ok
[04:21] <\sh> grmpf
[04:21] <lrojas> so, there is a bug in the guide
[04:21] <caffinated> lrojas: actually, try flashplugin-nonfree
[04:21] <\sh> i have troubles with the pbuilder howto
[04:22] <caffinated> lrojas: i just noticed it
[04:22] <lrojas> ok
[04:22] <lrojas> nope.. failed too
[04:22] <\sh> i just started sudo pbuilder create --distribution=hoary
[04:22] <caffinated> strange, i have it
[04:22] <lrojas> should i add the repositories in that guide? perhaps thats whats missing
[04:22] <dashnu> just go to a flash site and click to install flash ?
[04:22] <PacoBCN> hi guys.
[04:23] <dashnu> that is all i did
[04:23] <vetlebox> Thanks guys, I`ll come back when I need more help ;)
[04:23] <caffinated> lrojas: check your sources.list to see if you have repositories commented out
[04:23] <PacoBCN> I have an application that suddently changed to english language and I want it to be in SPanish
[04:23] <caffinated> they're not all enabled by default
[04:23] <ice_1963> use synaptic
[04:23] <\sh> and following the guide i could build packeges...so sudo apt-get install source bc ; sudo pbuilder build *.dsc
[04:23] <PacoBCN> How can I do it?
[04:23] <\sh> and pbuilder is complaining about base.tar.gz
[04:24] <zanaga> ahha!
[04:24] <zanaga> klogd is to blame
[04:24] <crimsun> \sh: did you configure pbuilder?
[04:24] <crimsun> \sh: you need to configure ~/.pbuilderrc
[04:24] <\sh> crimsun, I followed the guide
[04:24] <jazzka> hi!
[04:25] <\sh> crimsun, documentation for this? in the guide there is only written about the pbuilderrc in /etc(
[04:25] <jazzka> is there any program in ubuntu to know wich program are using the network?
[04:25] <jalal_ubuntu> how to get full screen in mplayer ?
[04:25] <crimsun> jazzka: ntop, among others.
[04:26] <crimsun> jazzka: I recommend darkstat as a replacement for ntop
[04:26] <jazzka> crimsun, darkstat is in universe?
[04:26] <Fackamato> How can I reconfigure an installed package?
[04:26] <crimsun> jazzka: yes
[04:27] <crimsun> \sh: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/PbuilderHowto
[04:28] <tck> im trying to add something to the Internet list under Applications
[04:28] <tck> like, nautilus applications:///Internet
[04:28] <spiral> Fackamato: dpkg-reconfigure package
[04:28] <tck> anyway to do this with HOARY
[04:28] <crimsun> tck: not via applications:///, no
[04:29] <tck> anyway ?
[04:29] <tck> wanna create an icon for an app
[04:29] <crimsun> yes, you can create the .desktop file manually
[04:29] <tck> dont want to have to type out the command each time
[04:29] <\sh> crimsun, thats the one
[04:30] <tck> crimsun, how do i do that?
[04:30] <crimsun> tck: use an editor and look at an example .desktop file
[04:30] <crimsun> tck: for instance, look at the one for rhythmbox (aka Music Player)
[04:30] <lrojas> :'(
[04:30] <lrojas> gonna cry
[04:30] <Fackamato> spiral: thanks, but how do I reconfigure sendmail :<
[04:31] <Fackamato> I want sendmail to use a relay server
[04:31] <tck> crimsun, cool
[04:31] <lrojas> i should have installed Warty instead of the stupid preview one
[04:31] <spiral> dpkg-reconfigure sendmail ?
[04:31] <Fackamato> didn't start anythinhg
[04:31] <crimsun> lrojas: it's called flashplugin-nonfree.
[04:31] <crimsun> lrojas: and it's in multiverse
[04:32] <lrojas> well my apt cant find it...
[04:32] <crimsun> lrojas: well have you enabled multiverse?
[04:32] <munki> How can I convert several .vob files to one xvid ?
[04:32] <lrojas> crimsun, are you using 5.04?
[04:32] <lrojas> or 4.10?
[04:32] <crimsun> lrojas: ~5.04
[04:33] <lrojas> ok, how do i enable multiverse?
[04:33] <spiral> lrojas: see your /etc/apt/sources.list... and see the faq
[04:33] <crimsun> lrojas: either edit /etc/apt/sources.list manually and uncomment the multiverse line, then update && upgrade, or use Synaptic
[04:34] <lordaj76> does anyone have tested kaffeine-0.5-1ubuntu1 ?
[04:34] <crimsun> s/update && upgrade/update && install flashplayer-nonfree/
[04:34] <lordaj76> it doesent start here
[04:34] <ice_1963> that's right lol
[04:34] <spiral> lordaj76: starts for me
[04:34] <\sh> hmmm...looks like that one error is causing the trouble with pbuilder
[04:34] <lrojas> hmmm, ok will try that.. asuming multiverse = universe as there is no multiverse in my sources
[04:35] <lordaj76> [lordaj76@ubuntu ~] $ kaffeine
[04:35] <lordaj76> Main: XInitThreads()
[04:35] <lordaj76> [INFO]  If Kaffeine hangs here run 'configure --with-xorg' and recompile/reinstall.
[04:35] <Myrtti> I llllloooove Ubuntu
[04:35] <lordaj76> and it hangs :)
[04:35] <\sh> he can't recognize the cdrom entry in the sources.list
[04:35] <spiral> lordaj76: I've got the same message, but this doesn't hang
[04:36] <crimsun> \sh: you need to configure the sources.list correctly.
[04:36] <Playy> http://www.playzero.com
[04:36] <\sh> crimsun, the sources.list was correct, the default cdrom entry was the bug
[04:36] <no0tic> \sh: sudo apt-cdrom add
[04:36] <\sh> no0tic, i don't have the install media in my cdrom ;)
[04:37] <\sh> after installation i'm using only net-sources
[04:37] <crimsun> \sh: if the default cdrom entry was the bug, then obviously the sources.list was incorrect :)
[04:37] <\sh> crimsun, no...normal updates etc. are ok.. he couldn't read the packages list
[04:37] <lordaj76> spiral: i think i'm going to wait another release
[04:37] <lordaj76> dont't know how to solve it
[04:37] <\sh> crimsun, but this should be mentioned in the guild
[04:37] <\sh> guide ;)
[04:38] <crimsun> \sh: that's a local issue
[04:38] <no0tic> \sh: <\sh> he can't recognize the cdrom entry in the sources.list
[04:39] <\sh> no0tic, yeah, there is no cdrom media inside, so he can't read the list
[04:39] <\sh> crimsun, at least :)
[04:39] <hayden> whats the recommended partition size for /
[04:39] <garrut> can i remove items from my window list?
[04:39] <\sh> its always the users fault ;)
[04:39] <\sh> it looks better now
[04:40] <carthik> Hi, would anyone know how to disable a firefox theme, or go back to using the default, by editing config files
[04:40] <\sh> yeah
[04:40] <carthik> Ass that I am, i installed a OSX theme on my linux firefox, and now firefox wont start up
[04:41] <Brunellus> any fluxbox users out there who know about generating menus?
[04:41] <lrojas> crimsun, i am getting an error whith the repositories...
[04:41] <wolki> hi!
[04:41] <lrojas> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[04:41] <lrojas> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-updates/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[04:41] <lrojas> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-updates/main/source/Sources.gz: 404 Not Found
[04:41] <lrojas> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-updates/restricted/source/Sources.gz: 404 Not Found
[04:41] <chibifs> Brunellus - Install the package "menu"
[04:41] <chibifs> Or maybe it was menus
[04:41] <Brunellus> Ah!
[04:42] <chibifs> It has a script that builds a full debian menu in it.
[04:42] <chibifs> update-menus or menus-update
[04:42] <Myrtti> for the love of God, why does Soundjuicer rip the CD so slowly?
[04:42] <chibifs> Can't remember which :P
[04:42] <Myrtti> this'll take forever
[04:42] <no0tic> lrojas: hoary-updates doesn't exist, it will be created when hoary stable will be released
[04:42] <Brunellus> chibifs:  I have "menu" already
[04:42] <Brunellus> how do I use that with fluxbox?
[04:43] <chibifs> Then run "update-menus" or "menus-update" from a console
[04:43] <Xappe> hmm, my sound card just stopped working yesterday when I put in another hdd...
[04:43] <Brunellus> ok, I've just run update-menus
[04:43] <Brunellus> now what?
[04:43] <chibifs> Restart fluxbox.
[04:44] <Brunellus> I did the restart from the fluxbox menu
[04:44] <Brunellus> and no effect
[04:44] <Brunellus> same three items:  xterm, restart, exit
[04:44] <chibifs> Lemme look really quick. Maybe fluxbox doesn't like it or something o.O;
[04:44] <hayden> is there an alarm clock gdesklet out there
[04:45] <chibifs> Nope. I ran it, my menu is full :/
[04:45] <Brunellus> chibifs:  what is your menu location?
[04:46] <Brunellus> menu file location, sorry.
[04:46] <chibifs> Don't remember. Might want to try installing menu-xdg as well, though.
[04:46] <Brunellus> chibifs, please run fluxconf
[04:46] <Brunellus> and tell me what the Menu file location is
[04:47] <lrojas> ok, i fixed the sources.list, still get this :
[04:47] <lrojas> lrojas@cortana:/etc/apt$ sudo apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree
[04:47] <lrojas> Reading Package Lists... Done
[04:47] <lrojas> Building Dependency Tree... Done
[04:47] <lrojas> E: Couldn't find package flashplayer-nonfree
[04:47] <chibifs> Doesn't have one set. D:
[04:47] <thoreauputic> the recent fluxboxes have a script called  fluxbox-generate_menu
[04:47] <deFrysk> lrojas, universe
[04:47] <lrojas> i have it uncomented
[04:47] <Brunellus> dammit.  NOTHING.
[04:47] <deFrysk> or is it multiverse ?
[04:48] <scandium> multiverse
[04:48] <lrojas> universe in my original sources
[04:48] <deFrysk> add multiverse
[04:48] <lrojas> deFrysk, where, how?
[04:48] <deFrysk> in sources.list
[04:49] <Brunellus> arrrgh.
[04:49] <Brunellus> still nothing.  I can't work out what's happening
[04:50] <Brunellus> chibifs:  how can you *not* have anything set, and have a fully-populated menu?
[04:50] <nachtwind> hi
[04:50] <Brunellus> all I get is "xterm" "restart" and "exit"
[04:50] <chibifs> Default? :P
[04:50] <Brunellus> if it's so default
[04:50] <Brunellus> why isn't it running for *me*?
[04:50] <admpell> hello
[04:51] <chibifs> Like I said, try installing menu-xdg as well, it's a more recent addition to the menu scripts.
[04:51] <Brunellus> I just did.  now what?
[04:51] <Xappe> hmm, i'm going to install ubuntu on my second hdd instead of the first (as it is now, the first one contains both win and ubuntu). can I choose during ubuntu install to install grub on hd0?
[04:51] <Brunellus> I'd be OK editing ~/.fuxbox/menu
[04:51] <ice_1963> you can do it in synaptic
[04:51] <lrojas> deFrysk, care to take a look? http://www.onedeveloper.com/sources.list
[04:51] <lrojas> please
[04:51] <Brunellus> but when I open it, there's nothing there--it's an empty file
[04:51] <ice_1963> for flash player
[04:51] <thoreauputic> Brunellus: which fluxbox version?
[04:52] <hayden> how can i play an mp3 with rhythmbox from the command line
[04:52] <admpell> For me, Ubuntu freezes when I have ACPI on and when I move my mouse
[04:52] <deFrysk> lrojas, make it deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe multiverse
[04:52] <Brunellus> thoreauputic:  uh, the one I apt-getted.
[04:52] <ice_1963> ok
[04:52] <thoreauputic> Brunellus: warty or hoary repos?
[04:52] <deFrysk> lrojas, thats all
[04:52] <ice_1963> hoary
[04:52] <Brunellus> warty.  I'm running warty.
[04:53] <deFrysk> lrojas, and add it also to deb-src if you wish
[04:53] <thoreauputic> Brunellus: I can send you an up to date deb I made ( fro warty) if you wish - I think it will solve you menu woes
[04:53] <lrojas> kay let me try now
[04:53] <thoreauputic> Brunellus: others have used it with success
[04:54] <Brunellus> thoreauputic:  what will it do?
[04:54] <thoreauputic> Brunellus: it's 0.9.12
[04:54] <thoreauputic> Brunellus: it runs a script called fluxbox-generate_menus
[04:54] <Brunellus> that'll be nice.  according to synaptic, this is..err. 0.1.14
[04:54] <Brunellus> yes. that's the script i'm looking for
[04:55] <thoreauputic> Brunellus: yeah, that's ancient
[04:55] <Brunellus> all the wikis/howtos refer to it.
[04:55] <thoreauputic> Ok i'll DCC
[04:55] <Brunellus> send the deb.  that'll be nice.
[04:56] <thoreauputic> Brunellus: it'll be slow - Im on dialup
[04:56] <phanter> How can I add a program to the Applications->Accessories menu in gnome?
[04:56] <Brunellus> thoreauputic:  no worries.
[04:56] <Brunellus> so when I get it what do I run?
[04:56] <trixisity> Hey all
[04:56] <Brunellus> deb -i fluxbox-0.9.12
[04:56] <Brunellus> ?
[04:56] <trixisity> installed ubuntu 1 hour ago
[04:56] <Brunellus> no dann
[04:56] <Brunellus> dpkg
[04:56] <Brunellus> right?
[04:56] <thoreauputic> Brunellus: just sudo dpkg -i
[04:56] <Brunellus> that's right.
[04:57] <Brunellus> it's been a while since I had to dpkg
[04:57] <hayden> how do i open a mp3 in rhythmbox from a cmd line
[04:57] <thoreauputic> Brunellus: just tab complete the name
[04:57] <Brunellus> hayden:  use xmms :P
[04:57] <nachtwind> hi
[04:57] <nachtwind> is there any usable frontent for quota?
[04:57] <hayden> that doesn't open it in rhythmbox
[04:58] <thoreauputic> Brunellus: it installs to /usr/local/bin so it should be in your PATH
[04:58] <Brunellus> hayden:  I was being only slightly facetious.  I don't use rythmbox
[04:58] <hayden> i know
[04:58] <lrojas> it worked, thanks all
[04:58] <lrojas> :)
[04:58] <wezzer-_> hayden: and when you open up that mp3-file and wonder why it doesn't play, type sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad in to console
[04:59] <Brunellus> thoreauputic: will I have to end the fluxbox session I"m currently in to install this?
[04:59] <hayden> i've already installed gstreamer
[04:59] <thoreauputic> hayden: if you just want to play one mp3, install mpg321 and run mpg321 <song>
[05:00] <cusco> hi.. could any body help me? I have a datalink cable usb2 to connetc tou a mandrake or a windows machine
[05:00] <thoreauputic> Brunellus: no, just do sudo dpkg -i  - of course it won't run 'til nect time
[05:00] <thoreauputic> *nex
[05:01] <thoreauputic> bah nrext
[05:01] <thoreauputic> haha
[05:01] <Xappe> :)
[05:01] <gollum> How can i change directory for apache. From /var/www/ too something like /home/user/www/
[05:01] <SeeleyUSMC> thoreauputic: That will actually let me play my mp3's?
[05:01] <thoreauputic> SeeleyUSMC: yes, in a basic way
[05:01] <Xappe> noone that can answer my grub question?
[05:02] <Brunellus> thoreauputic:  OK.  that was painless!
[05:02] <Brunellus> do I have to logout or can I just restart?
[05:02] <thoreauputic> SeeleyUSMC: if you have  a dir full of mp3 s you can even run mpg321 *
[05:02] <thoreauputic> Brunellus: you'll have to restart with a new session
[05:02] <snk00sj-> can anyone tell me why my apt-get doesn't find a package fluxbox ?
[05:02] <cusco> could anybody help me whit my usb2 data link cable?
[05:03] <Brunellus> once I start the new session, I run the fluxbox-generate_menu script?
[05:03] <Myrtti> would you happen to know if there are any "promote Ubuntu" buttons?
[05:03] <cusco> snk00sj-: are you searching on universe
[05:03] <cusco> ?
[05:03] <thoreauputic> Brunellus: and make sure /usr/local is before /usr/bin in your PATH
[05:03] <snk00sj-> universe ?
[05:03] <cusco> well yes
[05:03] <Brunellus> OK.  thanks.  restart time.
[05:03] <cusco> I don't remember where to set it...
[05:03] <snk00sj-> i don't understand what you're asking me :)
[05:03] <thoreauputic> Brunellus: I think you'll find the port install ran it already
[05:04] <thoreauputic> *post
[05:04] <cusco> snk00sj-: ask them... or hold let me see if I can find
[05:04] <snk00sj-> ty
[05:04] <scandium> snk00sj-, open /etc/apt/sources.list in an editor and uncomment the two lines which end on "universe". to read more about ubuntu  repositories see here: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/document_view
[05:05] <snk00sj-> ok thanks
[05:05] <el_cristiano> Has anyone got a word for that big fat update for hoary im just downloading (413 packages updated, 16 new)? rc-release probably?
[05:05] <cusco> snk00sj-:
[05:05] <Brunellus> ok back.
[05:05] <Brunellus> it certainly *looks* better
[05:05] <cusco> snk00sj-: pico /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:06] <Brunellus> I ran fluxbox-generate_menu
[05:06] <deFrysk> nano
[05:06] <cusco> snk00sj-: uncoment the two last lines
[05:06] <snk00sj-> cusco thats what i'm doing now, with nano :)
[05:06] <snk00sj-> yes, then apt-get update ?
[05:06] <cusco> and to a apt-get update
[05:06] <deFrysk> snk00sj-,  good :)
[05:06] <cusco> yes
[05:06] <Spooks> So, so far... I didn't have to install anything to get my modem to work/connect (it takes about 30mins with windows). Now my digital camera works without have to install anything too (Takes about 5 mins to get it working with windows)
[05:06] <thoreauputic> Brunellus: is your menu populated?
[05:06] <snk00sj-> i' learning :)
[05:06] <Spooks> I'm in love. <3 Ubuntu
[05:06] <snk00sj-> still nothing
[05:06] <cusco> snk00sj-: me too !
[05:06] <Brunellus> the menu is *not* populated
[05:06] <el_cristiano> Spooks: :)
[05:06] <Brunellus> I have "xterm" "restart" and "exit"
[05:07] <snk00sj-> couldn't find package fluxbox
[05:07] <Spooks> *all the typos in what I just typed
[05:07] <Brunellus> I know fluxbox is minimalistic, but this is rather too ascetic for my taste
[05:07] <echylo> hmm question, which OS is the base for mac os and exists for pc too?
[05:07] <thoreauputic> Brunellus: look in ~/.fluxbox/init and see where it thinks the menu is
[05:07] <Xappe> echylo, BSD?
[05:07] <snk00sj-> ok it were the first two lines :)
[05:07] <Jesterace> bsd
[05:07] <echylo> yes
[05:07] <cusco> snk00sj-: are you sure?
[05:07] <cusco> type apt-cache search flux
[05:07] <echylo> openbsd?
[05:07] <nachtwind> Newbie Question: I have an RPM file and i am su and in the right folder, but why wont rpm --install=webmin.rpm run the installation?
[05:07] <thoreauputic> Brunellus: there's a global one you might need to copy to ~/,fluxbox
[05:08] <Xappe> echylo, iirc, yes
[05:08] <tck> anyone else getting no sound from aMSN
[05:08] <snk00sj-> cusco yeah, it were the first two lines :)
[05:08] <echylo> ok
[05:08] <thoreauputic> Brunellus: or point it at the global one
[05:08] <snk00sj-> u using fluxbox also ?
[05:08] <tck> started to happen recently, then i see a build up of sox commans in the ps list that haven't executed
[05:08] <thoreauputic> Brunellus: it definitely makes a menu ( I use it here)
[05:08] <tck> funnily enough they make noise when i log out
[05:09] <Brunellus> thoreauputic:  it's pointing to..../etc/menu-methods
[05:09] <Brunellus> where should it point?
[05:09] <thoreauputic> Brunellus: the docs on fluxbox.org are useful
[05:09] <cusco> snk00sj-: no
[05:09] <thoreauputic> Brunellus: init is pinting there? weird
[05:09] <thoreauputic> *pointing
[05:09] <Brunellus> that might have been a carryover from my earlier monkeying around
[05:09] <Brunellus> do I point it at ~/.fluxbox/menu
[05:09] <Brunellus> ?
[05:09] <Xappe> does grub install on the masterdisk as default?
[05:10] <snk00sj-> ok it installed :)
[05:10] <Xappe> or the same disk as ubuntu?
[05:10] <snk00sj-> now need to find out howto load fluxbox instead of kde
[05:10] <thoreauputic> Brunellus: have a look at /usr/local/share/fluxbox/menu
[05:11] <scandium> Xappe, the ubuntu guided install lets you choose that...but it's using lilo, I don't know if changing to grub is possible already during install
[05:11] <Brunellus> nope.
[05:11] <lrojas> brb
[05:11] <cusco> I can't get my usb2 datalink cable to connetc to another machine :(
[05:11] <cusco> can anybody help me?
[05:11] <Brunellus> thoreauputic:  no menue in there
[05:11] <thoreauputic> Brunellus: locate fluxbox | grep menu
[05:12] <Xappe> scandium, ubuntu has grub by default
[05:12] <Brunellus> thoreauputic no dice.
[05:13] <thoreauputic> Brunellus: thet command *must* have generated output
[05:13] <thoreauputic> Brunellus: type ` fluxbox -version`
[05:13] <thoreauputic> what does that say?
[05:14] <Brunellus> hang on
[05:14] <Brunellus> got it!
[05:14] <Xappe> scandium, i know that, because i've done several ubuntu installs since late october, but never on a second hdd
[05:14] <Brunellus> problem with the init file
[05:14] <Brunellus> solved.
[05:14] <thoreauputic> OK
[05:14] <thoreauputic> :)
[05:14] <Brunellus> thank you superverymuch
[05:14] <tck> whats the link to check known bugs before i write off a new one ?
[05:15] <thoreauputic> Brunellus: this version has some nice stuff like alpha transparency etc
[05:15] <tck> ah found it
[05:15] <tck> im half asleep today :/
[05:15] <Taraxacum> hey
[05:16] <Taraxacum> i just installed ubuntu but what are the root pass?
[05:16] <mjr> Taraxacum, not set; use sudo with your own password
[05:16] <Quinn_Storm> Taraxacum: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[05:17] <Brunellus> I can tell.
[05:17] <Brunellus> this is actually pretty neat.
[05:17] <Taraxacum> and when i can't access the net while i am in there i can read it on a doc from the cd?
[05:17] <thoreauputic> Brunellus: the menu is OK now?
[05:17] <Brunellus> next thing is to add some neat stuff to the slit.
[05:17] <Brunellus> the menu is OK.  it's very pretty
[05:17] <Brunellus> just about what I expected
[05:17] <thoreauputic> cool :)
[05:17] <LinuxJones> Taraxacum, you have a wireless network card ?
[05:18] <scandium> Xappe, Array7 hoary from 4 days ago used lilo for me ;)
[05:18] <Taraxacum> nope
[05:18] <Arcane> 'scuse me, but can Ubuntu support a Westell Wireless modem connected through USB? :\
[05:18] <Taraxacum> i just need to do dhclient before i can use the net with i do as root you know
[05:18] <LinuxJones> Taraxacum, it shouldn't be too hard getting you on the Internet then :)
[05:18] <mjr> Arcane, sounds potentially troublesome, but don't know
[05:18] <Brunellus> cool, there's even a GUI menu-config tool!
[05:18] <chibifs> Well that's a bunch of spoon.
[05:18] <Arcane> It's really, really bugging me. Knoppix and Mandrake couldn't, and it's the only modem I -have-.
[05:18] <thoreauputic> Brunellus: I installed a bunch of devel packages so I could build my own stuff when required
[05:18] <Taraxacum> not really....but i still didn't get an answer to my question, can i read about that sudo in a document on the cd?
[05:19] <LinuxJones> Taraxacum, you should look at network-admin it's a gui for setting up your network
[05:19] <Quinn_Storm> Brunellus: what are you looking at? a new version of fluxbox? is it cool?
[05:19] <Arcane> My spleen. :x
[05:19] <LinuxJones> Taraxacum, use sudo -s (enter your user password) to get a root console
[05:19] <mjr> Arcane, it only has an usb interface, not ethernet?
[05:19] <thoreauputic> Quinn_Storm:  0.9.12  ( i compiled a deb)
[05:20] <Taraxacum> that's it? then i just change pass as usual?
[05:20] <Quinn_Storm> thoreauputic: ah, cool, I may have to look at that...though I doubt I'll leave kde for it
[05:20] <LinuxJones> Taraxacum, the root account is locked
[05:20] <Quinn_Storm> Taraxacum: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[05:20] <Taraxacum> i know, i read there!!!
[05:20] <Arcane> Oh, no. It has a Ethernet interface and a Network Card interface. I just don't have anything except a USB port.
[05:20] <LinuxJones> Taraxacum, Ubuntu does things a bit differently than some other distros
[05:20] <thoreauputic> Quinn_Storm: hoary has 0.9.11 in the repos, I believe
[05:20] <Brunellus> Quinn_Storm:  I'm trying to get as much as I can out of a 4 year old box
[05:20] <Brunellus> and while gnome 2.8 was fun
[05:20] <bluefoxicy> gaim 1.2 is out
[05:20] <Brunellus> fluxbox might be a better way to go, since I have fairly limited RAM
[05:20] <mjr> Arcane, have you actually tried to configure it yourself or just tried if it works straight away?
[05:21] <Taraxacum> so can someone answer my question now?
[05:21] <Quinn_Storm> Brunellus: that makes sense
[05:21] <thoreauputic> Brunellus: it is indeed
[05:21] <Quinn_Storm> thoreauputic: cool
[05:21] <cisa> hi anybody
[05:21] <Arcane> ... I've tried on Mandrake and Knoppix. I'm trying to find out if it works on Ubuntu so I don't use up another CD for nothing.
[05:21] <LinuxJones> Taraxacum, you will have to install the help I don't know if it's included on the cd itself sorry
[05:21] <thoreauputic> Brunellus: you're more up to date than hoary users on that fluxbox ;-)
[05:22] <Taraxacum> will the damn root account always be locked?
[05:22] <mjr> Arcane, well, frankly, chances are that if you couldn't get it working on those, you won't get it working on ubuntu either
[05:22] <Quinn_Storm> Taraxacum: please read the page I linked you to, it explains the root account and locking
[05:22] <thoreauputic> Taraxacum: use sudo with your user password
[05:22] <Brunellus> I feel supernifty
[05:22] <LinuxJones> Taraxacum, you can unlock it if you want but sudo is the default
[05:22] <Brunellus> warty is stable for me
[05:22] <Taraxacum> i know i know but why can't you just answer my question?!
[05:22] <Brunellus> and fluxbox is fast.
[05:22] <Brunellus> yay
[05:22] <tck> have a question
[05:23] <LinuxJones> Taraxacum, what question ?
[05:23] <tck> sox isn't playing sounds properly in amsn
[05:23] <Quinn_Storm> I certainly remember fluxbox being fast from when I had ancient hardware...though nothing is fast with transparency, lol
[05:23] <tck> would i log that as a sox bug or an amsn bug ?
[05:23] <Taraxacum> can i read about that sudo in a document on the cd?
[05:23] <mjr> Arcane, but I have no way of knowing if that's because it just requires some tricks that you didn't know about or if it's inherently nondoable
[05:23] <thoreauputic> Quinn_Storm: you can turn it off :)
[05:24] <Arcane> I seriously don't know, myself.
[05:24] <LinuxJones> Taraxacum, I said that I don't know if it is on the cd or not, you can have a look at the cd now can't you ?
[05:24] <Quinn_Storm> thoreauputic: well obviously, heh, even if not I could always just kill the compmgr
[05:24] <^thehatsrule^> flux is great ;p
[05:24] <zerovertex> Anyone got Skype? I just set it up under hoary and I need to test and make sure it works.
[05:24] <mjr> Arcane, try to google around for your modem model and linux
[05:24] <cisa> is there someone with an atar215 or similar usb adsl modem? i just want to know wether someone else has problems with compiling the drivers on kernel >=2.6.8
[05:25] <thoreauputic> Quinn_Storm: it isn't that kind of transparency - just pseudo-transparent menus etc
[05:25] <Taraxacum> oh sorry i must have missed that then LinuxJones, just so you know you was the only one helpful to me
[05:25] <Quinn_Storm> thoreauputic: ohhh, ok
[05:25] <Brunellus> yay.
[05:25] <Quinn_Storm> thoreauputic: that's fine
[05:25] <Brunellus> now for some dockapps
[05:25] <Xappe> scandium, hmm, never noticed anything on a switch to lilo
[05:26] <thoreauputic> Quinn_Storm: it just has adjustable alpha for menus and window frames, and the taskbar
[05:26] <Arcane> ... I've already TRIED googling around like that. It just gets me "Yay, it works perfect with my network card!" etc.
[05:26] <lrojas> anybody has iPod working with ubuntu?
[05:27] <jalal_ubuntu> hi all gotr a problem when i want to reboot ubuntu it freeze after displaying rebooting
[05:27] <ubuntu> i cannot install hoary on vmware... it complains about not finding any partitions / harddrives
[05:27] <LinuxJones> Taraxacum, that's ok I only see an installation guide on the Hoary cd
[05:28] <Quinn_Storm> Kenneth: well have you made sure there are virtual harddrives set up on your vmware virtual machine?
[05:28] <Kenneth> i just used  the guide as usual
[05:28] <Kenneth> works with other distros and with Warty
[05:28] <keffo> tips of ftp-clients? i mean.. gftp sux, the queue cant be saved etc..
[05:28] <Taraxacum> after i installed i felt like i was left out in the blue, cause i didn't know what to do after it worked, i couldn't connect or anything, don't you think it should be a guide on that too in the cd?
[05:29] <Doomhammer> hi all
[05:29] <malte__> is it possible to install ubuntu without getting all ofubuntu-desktop?
[05:29] <Doomhammer> how do I shut down the X-Server?
[05:29] <malte__> i want to use it on a server
[05:30] <queuetue> Has anyone installed AMP and Asterisk?  Is there  arepository for AMP (Asterisk Management Portal) anywhere?
[05:30] <Doomhammer> malte: sounds like you're in the same boat as me :P
[05:30] <thoreauputic> malte__: short answer is "yes"
[05:30] <Kenneth> Quinn_Storm, or do I need to do something special
[05:30] <malte__> thoreauputic, long answer involves "how" i suppose :) perhaps the wiki has more info?
[05:30] <thoreauputic> either "expert" or "server" (on hoary)
[05:30] <malte__> thoreauputic, yeah, i'm installing hoary
[05:30] <Doomhammer> how do I switch from graphical login to text-based login?
[05:30] <Doomhammer> I'm running Warty
[05:30] <keffo> tips of ftp-clients? i mean.. gftp sux, the queue cant be saved etc..
[05:30] <jalal_ubuntu> plz how to resove the rebooting problem
[05:30] <malte__> thoreauputic, that's all there's to it?
[05:31] <Doomhammer> keffo: vsftpd
[05:31] <LinuxJones> Taraxacum, it is assumed that everyting works correctly after an install. www.ubuntuguide.org is a good place to start for information.
[05:31] <thoreauputic> malte__: well, you need to have some idea what you're doing, of course :)
[05:31] <Quinn_Storm> Kenneth: I don't think so
[05:31] <Kenneth> ok
[05:31] <Kenneth> :(
[05:31] <Taraxacum> dhcp never works allright with loginservers it seems
[05:31] <keffo> Doomhammer, i said client maybe?
[05:31] <Doomhammer> oh :P
[05:32] <Doomhammer> nevermind :D
[05:32] <malte__> thoreauputic, i do ;)
[05:32] <lrojas> are there any instructions to acces the Appel iPod mini from ubuntu?
[05:32] <malte__> thoreauputic, thanks then, i'll go give it a try
[05:32] <wasabi> Am I supposed to have /dev/inotify?
[05:32] <thoreauputic> malte__: I don't ahev a link handy, but a search of the wiki and forums would find something, I'm sure
[05:32] <Taraxacum> no matter what distro i tried i had to do everything manually when it comes to dhclient, login to the isp and find the info, but since i couldn't login as root here i couldn't understand what to do
[05:32] <LinuxJones> Taraxacum, if you run network-admin you can set you basic network settings like dhcp
[05:33] <janc> does anyone know if hoary preview live CDs have lvm support?
[05:33] <janc> (knoppix hasn't it seems)
[05:34] <Doomhammer> in order to have a text-based login, do I need to change the default runlevel?
[05:34] <indiefusion> .
[05:34] <Doomhammer> .?
[05:34] <Glin|Jol> how would i go about setting up a root user in ubuntu?
[05:34] <Doomhammer> glin: type "sudo passwd root"
[05:34] <Glin|Jol> thanks
[05:34] <Doomhammer> enter and re-enter the password, and you're all set :)
[05:34] <Glin|Jol> been a long time since i have used any *nix distro heh
[05:35] <LinuxJones> Doomhammer, no you can remove the gdm symlink in the runlevel 2 dir
[05:35] <Doomhammer> Ubuntu is the only one that has root access disabled like that ... that I know of
[05:35] <queuetue> Glin|Jol, Can i ask why you want to be able to log in as root?  sudo doesn't do it for you?
[05:35] <Doomhammer> where might I find this runlevel 2 dir? /etc/init.d?
[05:35] <indiefusion> during install of latest iso, i get "an error has occured while trying to install the kernel of the target system.  Kernel package: linux-386"
[05:35] <LinuxJones> /etc/rc2.d/
[05:35] <sig> sudo -s works fine
[05:35] <Glin|Jol> queuetue: its not that i want to log in as root, its that i want to install packages, edit system configs etc
[05:36] <queuetue> Glin|Jol, That's what sudo is for.
[05:36] <sig> Glin|Jol: you can do that with sudo -s
[05:36] <Doomhammer> indie: did you verify the MD5 sum of the ISO? possibly that package is corrupted, or something
[05:36] <LinuxJones> Doomhammer, runlevels 2-5 are the same in Debian based distros which differs from Redhat based ones
[05:36] <queuetue> sudo means "do it as the super user"
[05:36] <Glin|Jol> yeah
[05:36] <Doomhammer> Jones: yea, I was thinking I needed to change it in /etc/inittab, like I did in RH9
[05:36] <thoreauputic> Doomhammer: to get tty login, you need to disable gdm ( update-rc.d can do that )
[05:36] <Glin|Jol> but when i type "sudo -s apt-get install <package> it asks for a password
[05:37] <queuetue> Glin|Jol, So, give it your password. :)
[05:37] <indiefusion> Doomhammer, no, i will
[05:37] <thoreauputic> Doomhammer: debian distros use runlevel 2 as default
[05:37] <indiefusion> thx
[05:37] <Glin|Jol> queuetue: my regular user password?
[05:37] <sig> Glin|Jol: here if you want to disable that:  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[05:37] <Doomhammer> thoreaputic: is it better to do that, or to remove the symlink in /etc/rc2.d?
[05:37] <queuetue> Glin|Jol, *your* pasword.  The password of the current user who is logged in.
[05:37] <Glin|Jol> queuetue: ahh thanks
[05:37] <Glin|Jol> sig: thanks for the link
[05:37] <thoreauputic> Doomhammer: using update-rc.d is the "approved" way
[05:38] <SeeleyUSMC> Does anyone know where to find the Windows drivers for an Atheros AR5212 802.11abg ?
[05:38] <Doomhammer> ah :)
[05:38] <thoreauputic> Doomhammer: it's very simple - the amn page is actually comprehensible ;)
[05:38] <thoreauputic> *man
[05:38] <thoreauputic> can't type...
[05:38] <Doomhammer> so I'd just do "update-rc.d gdm remove"?
[05:38] <Doomhammer> it would appear so, according to the man page
[05:38] <thoreauputic> Doomhammer: sounds right to me
[05:38] <jalal_ubuntu> plz how to resove the rebooting problem
[05:38] <tmorton> Hey, how do I use two mice w/ Ubuntu?
[05:39] <Glin|Jol> also, i just installed ubuntu for the first time, this is also my first debian-based distro
[05:39] <sig> Glin|Jol: then you need to use sudo
[05:39] <Glin|Jol> how do i add/remove/update the .deb packages and sources on my machine?
[05:39] <sig> sudo is for your sake
[05:39] <sig> Glin|Jol: using apt or synaptec
[05:39] <Glin|Jol> sig: yeah i am fine using sudo as root
[05:39] <Doomhammer> now is it wise to remove gdm from the default runlevel while it's running?
[05:39] <sig> synaptec is the gui version
[05:39] <trixisity> Can someone help me, what would be the installation path of my browser, would that be /usr/lib/mozilla, or would that be /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox=
[05:39] <sig> computer > system configuration > synaptec
[05:39] <Doomhammer> trixisity: depends, do you have Mozilla or Firefox?
[05:39] <indiefusion> Glin|Jol: sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get ugprade
[05:40] <trixisity> well I have firefox
[05:40] <thoreauputic> Doomhammer: those scripts run on atart up, so I think it's fine
[05:40] <Glin|Jol> indiefusion: thats what i was looking for, thanks
[05:40] <trixisity> but I also have a map that just says mozilla
[05:40] <sig> sig@idaho:~ $ which firefox
[05:40] <sig> /usr/bin/firefox
[05:40] <sig> trixisity:
[05:40] <Glin|Jol> sig: is there a way to view a list of currently installed packages?
[05:40] <Doomhammer> /etc/firefox, maybe
[05:40] <Doomhammer> /usr/bin/firefox would have the script to start it ;)
[05:40] <sig> Glin|Jol: yes in synaptec
[05:40] <Glin|Jol> sig: k thanks :)
[05:40] <trixisity> Cause I'm trying to install a flash plugin
[05:41] <thoreauputic> Doomhammer: you're not removing gdm, just the script symlinks
[05:41] <Doomhammer> ok, gdm removed from default runlevel
[05:41] <Doomhammer> thoreaputic: yep, that makes sense
[05:42] <thoreauputic> hmm reboot wasn't necessary - telinit 1 would have been enough
[05:42] <Doomhammer> meh
[05:42] <Doomhammer> brb, gotta run downstairs and check on it ...
[05:43] <LinuxJones> thoreauputic, I think the symlinks can get re-added if the packages get an upgrade (if you've removed them with update-rc.d)
[05:43] <thoreauputic> LinuxJones: ah, didn't know that - how would one avoid that?
[05:44] <toni^> is there anywhere a tutorial how to install mysql to work with apache2?
[05:44] <LinuxJones> thoreauputic, I didn't realize either till jdub mentioned it one day
[05:44] <thoreauputic> LinuxJones: I know a way in debian, but the file isn't in ubuntu
[05:45] <thoreauputic> there's a deafault dm file you can change to "false" - don't recall exactly
[05:45] <Brainache> hey
[05:45] <tmorton> Hmm...how do I reboot Xorg?
[05:45] <LinuxJones> thoreauputic, Ubuntu really needs a service script manager, it would be a good project to work on but I think there are some underlying issues that I don't know about that would have to be dealt with ;P
[05:46] <Myrtti> ha, funny how fast Thunderbird now loads
[05:46] <Brainache> im looking for some help on how to configure and install a package
[05:46] <Myrtti> Brainache: huh?
[05:46] <Brainache> ive tried doing what it says on the ubuntu support page
[05:46] <electricwheels> Good Day All
[05:46] <LinuxJones> electricwheels, hiya
[05:46] <Brainache> im a complete newbie at linux
[05:46] <Brainache> please bear with me
[05:47] <LinuxJones> Brainache, we all were at one time :)
[05:47] <thoreauputic> LinuxJones: yes, even the debian types think update-rc.d is not a good way to handle things,apparently
[05:47] <Myrtti> Brainache: what are you trying to do? install something?
[05:47] <Brainache> i got a tar.bz2 file
[05:47] <mattgirv> is there a way to make KDE (QT) apps look more like GTK2 apps when running in Gnome.
[05:47] <artnay> Myrtti: since when have you been using ubuntu? I remember you're having some Citrix problems, are they solved now?
[05:47] <Brainache> yeah
[05:47] <LinuxJones> thoreauputic, yeah
[05:47] <mattgirv> I love AmaroK but it looks butt ugly in GNOME :(
[05:47] <Brainache> and i do configure, and i get an error message
[05:47] <tmorton> Brainache, What's the error?
[05:47] <Brainache> i can cp and paste the error message
[05:47] <Brainache> one sec
[05:47] <thoreauputic> Brainache: use the package manager
[05:47] <Myrtti> artnay: no, but I went to my schools computer center and they said the problem might exist at their end with the servers
[05:48] <tmorton> Do you have gcc installed?
[05:48] <electricwheels> I'm looking to get some help with getting my computer boot windows xp and ubuntu, it boots ubuntu just fine but I can't get it to boot up my windows xp.  If I can't get this resolved I need to know how to properly and cleanly uninstall ubuntu.  Can anyone help me.
[05:48] <Brainache> its not an Apt-get package
[05:48] <thoreauputic> Brainache: if you're new, forget compiling for a whle
[05:48] <Myrtti> artnay: I've used Ubuntu for... lemme get my calendar... for a month?
[05:48] <Brainache> i downloaded it from a website
[05:48] <Brainache> its a livejorunal client
[05:48] <LinuxJones> Brainache, you can use tar xfjv tarball to extract
[05:48] <thoreauputic> Brainache: what is it?
[05:48] <tmorton> The error...
[05:49] <Brainache> i extracted it with the GUI extractor
[05:49] <LinuxJones> Brainache, sorry I missed that
[05:49] <Myrtti> I'd seriously consider adding Debian repositories to your sources.list for a second, see if that LJ client is there and if so, install it from there
[05:49] <Myrtti> but that's just me
[05:49] <thoreauputic> Brainache: you would need ( at least) to install build-essential
[05:49] <Glin|Jol> sig: it seems that i dont have synaptec installed on my machine, and sudo apt-get install synaptec results in a 'Couldn't find package synaptec' error
[05:49] <Brainache> Myritt: How can i do that?
[05:50] <Brainache> the error message was: checking for gcc... no
[05:50] <Brainache> checking for cc... no
[05:50] <Brainache> checking for cc... no
[05:50] <Brainache> checking for cl... no
[05:50] <Brainache> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[05:50] <thoreauputic> Myrtti: not good advice for a newb, methinks
[05:50] <tmorton> Yup...you don't have GCC installed
[05:50] <LinuxJones> Brainache, what app are you trying to install ?
[05:50] <Brainache> heh
[05:50] <Brainache> Drivel Livejournal client
[05:50] <thoreauputic> Brainache: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:50] <Brainache> thanks!
[05:50] <thoreauputic> Brainache: you have no usable compiler
[05:51] <LinuxJones> Brainache, are you running hoary or warty ?
[05:51] <Brainache> warty
[05:51] <LinuxJones> Brainache, it is available as a binary download in the Hoary repository
[05:51] <Brainache> thoreauptic: ok
[05:51] <Brainache> how do i get to the Hoary repository
[05:51] <thoreauputic> Brainache: and drivel is in the repos for warty
[05:51] <LinuxJones> Brainache, try enabling the universe repository it is probably available via synaptic
[05:51] <thoreauputic> it is
[05:52] <Brainache> ok, thankyou
[05:52] <thoreauputic> Brainache: enable universe
[05:52] <moder_> hello. I'm trying to run apt-get update but it fails to fetch some of the packages. Should I change the archive address to something else than http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com? I'm running Hoary :)
[05:53] <Brainache> i think i saw something about uncommenting some lines somewhere to enable universe
[05:53] <Brainache> is that right?
[05:53] <thoreauputic> Brainache: /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:53] <LinuxJones> moder_, get rid of the fi and use archive.ubuntu.com
[05:53] <moder_> LinuxJones: ok, I'll try that then :p
[05:54] <Brainache> thoreauputic: thankyou
[05:54] <thoreauputic> Brainache: no problem :)
[05:54] <thux> Hi, I have a user in Hoary who runs :(){ :|:& };: and then I have to reboot, how I can prevent that, easiest method if somebody care to tell?
[05:54] <Myrtti> moder_: indeed, I doubt we Finns yet have Ubuntu mirror
[05:54] <Myrtti> I've used the Norwegian one
[05:54] <electricwheels> I'm looking to get some help with getting my computer to boot windows xp and ubuntu, it boots ubuntu just fine but I can't get it to boot up my windows xp.  If I can't get this resolved I need to know how to properly and cleanly uninstall ubuntu.  Can anyone help me ????????
[05:54] <moder_> Myrtti: it was there since the install :I
[05:54] <thoreauputic> Brainache: you can do it in synaptic in settings >> repostories as well ( might be easier)
[05:54] <Myrtti> moder_: the fi-part?
[05:54] <Myrtti> that's odd
[05:54] <moder_> yep
[05:55] <moder_> at least I havent changed that :p
[05:55] <LinuxJones> thux, can you re-phrase that question I don't really understand
[05:55] <electricwheels> I'm running the warty version of ubuntu
[05:55] <Brainache> thoreauputic: ah yes.  im more used to the gui way atm
[05:56] <thux> LinuxJones: hostile user runs that fork :(){ :|:& };:
[05:56] <Brainache> ive been using ubuntu for all of about 30 minutes
[05:56] <Doomhammer> does anyone use Certance's TapeWare software?
[05:56] <Doomhammer> I just installed it, and now I need to restore some files from tape backup
[05:56] <moder_> ok, it's working now, thanks :)
[05:56] <njs12345> SeeleyUSMC: you here?
[05:56] <thux> LinuxJones: ulimit doesn't seem to help
[05:56] <thoreauputic> Brainache:  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SynapticHowto
[05:56] <moder_> uh
[05:56] <Doomhammer> but it doesn't know I have anything backed up, so is there another piece of software I can use to restore some files?
[05:56] <moder_> no, it isn't :P
[05:57] <Brainache> thoreauputic: great, thanks
[05:57] <SeeleyUSMC> njs12345: yes I am
[05:57] <LinuxJones> thux, if someone is runnign commands on your system you've been compromized. Disconnect the computer fromt eh network and do a fresh install changing all passwords and do a system upgrade
[05:57] <njs12345> you wanted to know how to use your flash stick on the forums?
[05:57] <thux> LinuxJones: shell server lot of users
[05:57] <SeeleyUSMC> njs12345: I need to post there again.  I got it working last night actually
[05:57] <njs12345> ah, I see =)
[05:58] <tmorton> Where can I get the kernel source?
[05:58] <SeeleyUSMC> njs12345: only problem now is this darned wireless Atheros AR5212 abg card that "works out of the box" :)
[05:58] <tmorton> for Ubuntu...
[05:58] <tmorton> I need it to build my WiFi card drivers
[05:58] <Brainache> ok, on a whim, i tried running configure now i apt-got the build package
[05:58] <moder_> are these packages vital: .../dists/hoary-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz
[05:58] <moder_> .../dists/hoary-updates/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz
[05:58] <moder_> .../dists/hoary-updates/main/source/Sources.gz
[05:58] <moder_> .../dists/hoary-updates/restricted/source/Sources.gz
[05:59] <moder_> it gives me 404 not found on those
[05:59] <LinuxJones> thux, who knows what the user has changed on your system. I would backup all of the logfiles (for examination later) maybe you can find out how he got access to your system.
[05:59] <Brainache> and i got a perl error: checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[05:59] <thux> ok
[05:59] <njs12345> is it me, or is "aasink" the coolest video output gstreamer plugin ever?
[05:59] <njs12345> I can view the output of my webcam in ascii :D
[05:59] <thoreauputic> Brainache: not a good idea - use the apt packages (easier to remove, update etc)
[05:59] <Brainache> ok, will do
[05:59] <Brainache> thanks
[05:59] <Myrtti> ok, one last thing to sort out...
[06:00] <Taraxacum> back
[06:00] <thoreauputic> Brainache: don't compile until you understand what's happening
[06:00] <LinuxJones> thux, installing a file integrity checker like aide and running it as a cron job along with chkrootkit
[06:00] <LinuxJones> thux, would be advisable as well
[06:00] <LinuxJones> he left :(
[06:01] <Brainache> ok, i will stick with packages
[06:01] <thoreauputic> Brainache: there are about 14 000 to choose from if you enable universe - use the search function in synaptic to find things
[06:02] <SeeleyUSMC> stuNNed_: you here?
[06:02] <Brainache> i've enabled universe
[06:02] <Bauhn> Can anyone here help me with installing VLC?
[06:02] <thoreauputic> Brainache: did you reload?
[06:02] <Brainache> did it from the cl (go me)
[06:02] <Brainache> i just did
[06:02] <LinuxJones> Bauhn, did you add the universe repository ?
[06:02] <thoreauputic> cool :)
[06:02] <Brainache> yep, found drivel
[06:02] <Brainache> thanks so much
[06:03] <Brainache> really helpful
[06:03] <Brainache> bye!
[06:03] <Burgundavia> what are 4 default fonts in firefox?
[06:03] <Bauhn> LinuxJones, how do i do that?
[06:03] <thoreauputic> Brainache: that's what we're here for :)
[06:03] <moder_> LinuxJones: I'm having problems with installing VLC too
[06:03] <LinuxJones> Bauhn, let me get you a link 1 sec
[06:03] <moder_> even when I added universe by uncommenting those lines
[06:04] <LinuxJones> Bauhn, >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/howto/helpcenterhowto.2004-09-30.5359349801
[06:04] <massimiliano> hello to all, I am Italian and would have need of aid...excuse for my english...
[06:04] <Bauhn> LinuxJones, thx
[06:04] <LinuxJones> Bauhn, :)
[06:05] <LinuxJones> massimiliano, welcome what's your problem ?
[06:05] <Bauhn> LinuxJones, and btw, do you know why i can't edit sources.list?
[06:05] <Myrtti> are y ou doing it as sudo
[06:05] <bniemczyk> Bauhn: are you putting 'sudo' in front of your edit command?
[06:05] <Myrtti> or in sudo
[06:06] <bniemczyk> like 'sudo vim /etc/sources.list'
[06:06] <thoreauputic> Bauhn: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:06] <LinuxJones> Bauhn, you need to sudo to get root priviliges
[06:06] <Bauhn> LinuxJones, aah *smart*
[06:06] <thoreauputic> bniemczyk: I don't think he'd like vim somehow :)
[06:06] <ahijah> dunb question... what is the location of the main kernal
[06:07] <deFrysk>  /boot
[06:07] <LinuxJones> ahijah, /boot
[06:07] <thoreauputic> ahijah: why do you need to know?
[06:07] <massimiliano> my problem is with the hoary distribution...cupsys-driver-gimpprint and ubuntu-desktop have problems with the dependencies...
[06:08] <massimiliano> E: cupsys-driver-gimpprint:  il sottoprocesso post-installation script ha restituito un codice di errore 2
[06:08] <bniemczyk> thoreauputic: bah
[06:08] <massimiliano> E: ubuntu-desktop:  problemi con le dipendenze - lasciato non configurato
[06:08] <bniemczyk> everyone should like vim
[06:08] <Burgundavia> massimiliano: have you updated recently? There was an issue that got resolved
[06:08] <LinuxJones> massimiliano, if it asks to remove ubuntu-desktop just ignore it, it's only a metapackage
[06:08] <tck> has anyone ever commited a bug report ?
[06:08] <thoreauputic> bniemczyk: but not when starting out ;)
[06:08] <Burgundavia> tck: yes
[06:08] <ermo> Could anyone help me install a .desktop so that it shows up in Applications/Sound & Video (hoary)?
[06:09] <massimiliano> i have update today....
[06:09] <vaijr2002> is there an easy way to install mplayer, and the codecs?
[06:09] <LinuxJones> ermo, you run warty or hoary ?
[06:09] <bniemczyk> thoreauputic: bah, i will forever disagree with that statement
[06:09] <bniemczyk> ;)
[06:09] <jalal_ubuntu> how to erase rewritable cd in console mode
[06:09] <deFrysk> vaijr2002, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[06:09] <ermo> LinuxJones, as I indicated: (hoary)
[06:09] <thoreauputic> bniemczyk: ed! ed is the edtor! man ed!
[06:09] <bniemczyk> lol
[06:09] <thoreauputic> :D
[06:09] <massimiliano> every time that I try to install a package gives this error
[06:10] <Xappe> gah, my internet connection is slow today. trying to download the array 7 cd in 30 kb/s(!)...five hours for a simple cd image... :(
[06:10] <bniemczyk> ed's a bit much
[06:10] <LinuxJones> ermo, you are going to have to install a menu editor, it was jsut released yesterday
[06:10] <bniemczyk> even for me :/
[06:10] <bniemczyk> and i'm a masochist
[06:10] <ermo> so far, I've checked the spec at freedesktop.org specs and looked in ~/.local/share/applications/ where I've placed my .desktop entry
[06:10] <LinuxJones> ermo, let me see if I can find it for you
[06:10] <ermo> LinuxJones, really? thanks a bunch m8
[06:10] <mameluke> is it possible that there are Problems installing Galeon on Warty?
[06:10] <mameluke> it' doesn't work
[06:10] <Bauhn> LinuxJones, what should i do when i have installed the universe?
[06:10] <thoreauputic> bniemczyk:  http://users.fishinternet.com.au/~peterg/edistheeditor.txt
[06:11] <ermo> LinuxJones, DOH. Lemme doublecheck how it's done in /usr/share/applications (silly me)
[06:11] <thoreauputic> mameluke: that's right - galeon is a problem on warty
[06:12] <LinuxJones> ermo, >> http://dev.realistanew.com/menu-editor/menueditor_0.1-1_i386.deb
[06:12] <mameluke> i tried this one "dpkg -i galeon_1.3.20-1ubuntu4_i386.deb" thoreauputic.... thx for the info
[06:12] <mameluke> maybe i must change to Hoary
[06:12] <thoreauputic> mameluke: if you need galeon, yes
[06:13] <Zane> Hello everyone.  I installed ubuntu yesterday.. got nvidia drivers to work.. now i wanna know how i can get my sound to work.. i have soundblaster 64 audio card
[06:13] <LinuxJones> ermo, download and sudo -s to get to a root console, dpkg -i menueditor_0.1-1_i386.deb and meun-editor to run it .....has to be run by root user
[06:13] <thoreauputic> mameluke: it isn't in the warty repos because it wouldn't build
[06:13] <ermo> LinuxJones, is that because it edits the /usr/share/applications directory?
[06:13] <bniemczyk> thoreauputic: lol
[06:13] <Bauhn> I'm trying to install VLC, and LinuxJones told me to install the universe.. now i've added them to sources.list.. what should i do now?
[06:13] <mameluke> thx, anyway... i dont need it realy thoreauputic, but i just wanted someting else as ff ;)
[06:14] <scandium> Bauhn, sudo apt-get update
[06:14] <thoreauputic> bniemczyk: I have that from one of the devs concerned :)
[06:14] <Bauhn> scandium, thx
[06:14] <scandium> Bauhn, then apt-cache search vlc and pick the ones you like
[06:14] <thoreauputic> bniemczyk: oh - just realised - you looked at the link!
[06:14] <massimiliano> Can i delete the two packages that give problems to me? (cupsys-driver-gimpprint and ubuntu-desktop)
[06:14] <Doomhammer> how should I go about restoring some files from tape backup?
[06:14] <thoreauputic> bniemczyk: heheh
[06:15] <scandium> Bauhn, e.g. "sudo apt-get install vlc", most likely ;)
[06:15] <massimiliano> will i have problems?
[06:15] <ftwig> trying to do a make and it says  qpainter.h is missing.  This is part of the Qt library.  I have looked in synaptic and cant see what I have missed.  Any ideas?
[06:15] <LinuxJones> ermo, no
[06:15] <mjr> Doomhammer, depends entirely on how you went about writing the data there
[06:15] <Bauhn> scandium, ok, i think i'll make this now..
[06:15] <Doomhammer> I used Yosemite TapeWare
[06:15] <bniemczyk> ftwig: do you have the -dev or -devel packages installed?
[06:16] <mjr> sounds like you want to use Yosemite TapeWare for restoring
[06:16] <bniemczyk> i don't remember the name...
[06:16] <Doomhammer> but now, I can't restore it with TapeWare, because this is a fresh install of Ubuntu and TW doesn't know that I have ever backed up anything ...
[06:16] <Doomhammer> it doesn't know that I have any media
[06:16] <ftwig> bniemczyk: yes - think so
[06:16] <ermo> LinuxJones, then why do I need root? If it edits ~/.local/share/applications, I shouldn't need root. In fact, it would be detrimental..
[06:16] <mjr> well, find out how it writes the data, 'cause there's no one way of doing it
[06:17] <scandium> ftwig, additionally to libqt3-headers you also need libqt3-(mt-)dev
[06:17] <ermo> LinuxJones, but thx for the pointer
[06:17] <LinuxJones> ermo, ;)
[06:18] <Fl-i-nT> hi all
[06:18] <massimiliano> LinuxJones, Can i delete the two packages that give problems to me? (cupsys-driver-gimpprint and ubuntu-desktop)
[06:18] <Echylo> hmm how should I create a html playlist of my songs like winamp does,
[06:18] <ftwig> bniemczyk: ive got libqt3-mt-dev
[06:18] <ermo> LinuxJones, also, the newest version supports non-root editing, it would seem.
[06:18] <indiefusion> how do i edit grub to rid it of unwanted entries?
[06:18] <thoreauputic> massimiliano: ubuntu-desktop can be removed without problems
[06:19] <thoreauputic> massimiliano: it's a meta-package
[06:19] <ermo> LinuxJones, the newest is 0.2-1 (not 0.1-1)
[06:19] <LinuxJones> ermo, he must have changed it recently :)
[06:19] <ermo> 20th of martch, so yeah ;)
[06:19] <CarlK_> is there some way to do "screen shots" of the console durring an install?  cuz this is sutpid: http://dev.personnelware.com/carl/temp/e/00008.jpg
[06:19] <ermo> march even
[06:19] <massimiliano> and cupsys-driver-gimpprint?
[06:19] <LinuxJones> massimiliano, do you have an epson printer ?
[06:19] <massimiliano> no..
[06:19] <massimiliano> i have a hp
[06:19] <thoreauputic> indiefusion: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:19] <mirak> what means footing ?
[06:19] <bniemczyk> ftwig: do you have libqt3-headers ?
[06:20] <indiefusion> k, thanks
[06:20] <scandium> ftwig, as I told you, you also need libqt3-headers
[06:20] <ftwig> bniemczyk: yes, I already had them
[06:20] <Myrtti> uulalaa
[06:21] <Myrtti> I managed to fix my nvidia installation
[06:21] <Myrtti> I'm good
[06:21] <LinuxJones> massimiliano, there might be some drivers that you printer might need in that package gimpprint. You can always re-install if your printer stops working if you remove it
[06:21] <thoreauputic> Myrtti: :) congrats !
[06:21] <Myrtti> from now on, when referring to myself on Linux matters, I'll call myself as Ubuntu Goddess
[06:21] <Myrtti> I love me
[06:21] <LinuxJones> Myrtti, you rock !!
[06:21] <Myrtti> life is good
[06:21] <^thehatsrule^> lol
[06:21] <massimiliano> ok thanks a lot...
[06:22] <LinuxJones> massimiliano, ;)
[06:22] <ftwig> bniemczyk: rclock.cpp:22:22: qpainter.h: No such file or directory is what I get
[06:22] <Myrtti> this day has been full of good suprises
[06:22] <ermo> LinuxJones, bad bad bad Travis Watkins. He hasn't included python docstrings *waves fist at mr. Watkins*
[06:22] <Fl-i-nT> \o\o\o\o\o|o|o|o|o|o/o/o/o/o/o
[06:22] <Echylo> hmm how should I create a html playlist of my songs like winamp does ? anyone ?
[06:22] <Amaranth> ermo: ?
[06:22] <airox> Am I blind or is cdimages.ubuntu.com running apache 2.1.3 ??
[06:22] <Fl-i-nT> geez i hate this eyecandy stuff
[06:23] <Fl-i-nT> but i want it lol
[06:23] <Arcane> Any suggestions on how to get a USB modem working? >>
[06:23] <Amaranth> ermo: I didn't do what?
[06:23] <mdz> Myrtti: do we need to add a "goddess" tier to the Ubuntu community governance structure? ;-)
[06:23] <Echylo> arcane, start with saying wich modem ;)
[06:23] <indiefusion> thoreauputic, how do i make winxp default? (i'm dual booting(
[06:23] <Arcane> Westell Wirespeed B90-220030-04.
[06:24] <Echylo> indiefusion , just plave the whole XP entry above the ubuntu one :P
[06:24] <ermo> Amaranth, ah it's you! I was reading through the code to the nice menu-editor you wrote. I just commented on how you'd not written a docstring for your menu library class :D
[06:24] <SeeleyUSMC> stuNNed_: you there?
[06:24] <Myrtti> mdz: naah, I'll settle for just calling myself with that name
[06:24] <indiefusion> Echylo, hmm.....i don't have a winxp entry in there
[06:24] <ermo> Amaranth, nothing more
[06:24] <airox> indiefusion: Horray!
[06:24] <indiefusion> rofl
[06:24] <Amaranth> ermo: hehe, it's all pretty self explanatory
[06:24] <Echylo> :D
[06:24] <Echylo> euhm
[06:24] <Xappe> indiefusion, well, add one
[06:24] <Amaranth> ermo: MenuHandler is anyway
[06:24] <indiefusion> it's there when i boot up
[06:25] <indiefusion> but it's not in the file
[06:25] <indiefusion> the ifle just ends saying "END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST"
[06:25] <Myrtti> now I need to find out the correct refresh rates for this screen
[06:25] <airox> :)
[06:25] <Xappe> indiefusion, have you checked before the debian automagic thing
[06:25] <Echylo> there should be an entry indie ;)
[06:25] <ermo> Amaranth, yeah, it looks pretty too! I've a question though: Is the menu a system-wide xml-file which happens to be sync'ed with the current users' .local/share/applications/foobar.desktop entries?
[06:26] <indiefusion> Xappe: lol yeah
[06:26] <Doomhammer> how do I restore with TapeWare XE if I have a fresh install of it?
[06:26] <thoreauputic> indiefusion: it's below that - scroll down
[06:26] <ermo> Amaranth, (haven't read the whole thing yet)
[06:26] <Doomhammer> it doesn't regognize that I have any media ...
[06:26] <SeeleyUSMC> ath%d: unable to atach hardware; HAL status 13 <-- anyone know what this means?
[06:26] <indiefusion> there are really no more lines after that
[06:27] <thoreauputic> indiefusion: you should see comment lines like
[06:27] <MM2_> does ext2 has some filesize limits?
[06:27] <Amaranth> ermo: /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu and ~/.config/menus/applications.menu
[06:27] <thoreauputic>  This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS
[06:27] <thoreauputic> # on /dev/hda1
[06:27] <indiefusion> i may have deleted it in a freak delete key accident
[06:27] <indiefusion> hmm
[06:27] <indiefusion> brb
[06:27] <indiefusion> thx
[06:27] <samo22> does anynoe know is this is Mozilla Firefox 1.0.1 bug in Hoary ? I can't download anything .. it won't start it ...
[06:27] <ermo> Amaranth, thanks. I shall promptly dive head first into menu goodness
[06:27] <ggl_6> hello
[06:28] <thoreauputic> samo22: yes, known issue
[06:28] <MM2_> darn, that explains why my tarred backups are screwed...
[06:28] <janc> samo22 : try downloading with right click & then save link as
[06:28] <Amaranth> ermo: don't suppose you know what's wrong with the locales stuff? :)
[06:28] <janc> as a workaround
[06:28] <thoreauputic> samo22: try right click, "save as"
[06:28] <samo22> janc: ok will try tnx
[06:28] <ggl_6> does ubuntu use the same package system as Debian?
[06:28] <JDahl> MM2_, I think ext2 has an 8 or 10 GB filesize limit.. not 100% sure though
[06:28] <mameluke> hrm... i try to upgrade to hoary with apt... im following the instruktions on the ubuntu-wiki, but it doesn't works
[06:29] <thoreauputic> janc: oops, sorry missed it
[06:29] <Echylo> what's the problem mameluke ?
[06:29] <Arcane> Eugh, I'm gonna reboot in Knoppix and try lspci -v
[06:29] <mameluke> Echylo, mom i past in query ok?
[06:29] <MM2_> JDahl: looks like limit is 2GB :(
[06:29] <Echylo> www.pastebin.com
[06:29] <Echylo> :p
[06:29] <Arcane> THEN I'll start downloading if it won't work.
[06:30] <samo22> yes tnx its working :)
[06:31] <samo22> another question .. does anynoe have good apt sources link for latest sun java ..?
[06:31] <calc> supposedly if you have LFS support enabled filesize limit is 8TB
[06:31] <Myrtti> wowee
[06:31] <Doomhammer> 8TB? wow ...
[06:31] <calc> though i think the site i am reading doesn't know how to do math correctly
[06:31] <Doomhammer> that would be a HUGE file :)
[06:32] <calc> it said 2^63 is only 8TB
[06:32] <calc> its actually ~ 8 exabytes
[06:32] <vaijr2002> grrr
[06:32] <ermo> Amaranth, are you planning, say, dnd capability where one drags a .desktop file onto the main Menu Editor window and it then automatically parses the .desktop entry so that you can insert it in whatever category you want?
[06:33] <vaijr2002> why when i type cd /home/user/M<tab> doesnt it see the file thats there?
[06:33] <Xappe> what's the filesize limit for ext3 then?
[06:33] <samo22> vair: maybe have root privileges
[06:33] <vaijr2002> hmm
[06:33] <calc> http://www.linuxhq.com/lnxlists/linux-kernel/lk_9906_01/msg00001.html <- that should shed some light on what the limits are
[06:34] <Absenth> Morning all
[06:34] <vaijr2002> tried that
[06:34] <vaijr2002> i am looking at the damn dir
[06:34] <calc> but i think that is still using just 32bit size, not LFS 64bit
[06:34] <Absenth> can someone name an apt package for bit torrents?
[06:34] <vaijr2002> lol its /home/vaijr/Mplayer...
[06:34] <Glin|Jol> i am trying to mount a windows partition using fstab
[06:34] <_4strO> hi all
[06:34] <airox> Absenth: Checkout http://www.ubuntuguide.org they have a nice howto about azureus
[06:34] <Glin|Jol> my fstab entry is as follows
[06:35] <Absenth> airox danke
[06:35] <Glin|Jol> /dev/sdb1       /mnt/win_d      ntfs    defaults,ro,user    0       0
[06:35] <Seveas> Glin|Jol, let me guess: unable to read from it as a normal user?
[06:35] <Glin|Jol> when i try to cd into the directory after i have issued the command 'sudo mount /mnt/win_d' it denies me
[06:35] <vaijr2002> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/
[06:35] <Glin|Jol> Seveas, heh yeah
[06:35] <vaijr2002> go there glin
[06:35] <calc> ah the actual limit in kernel is 2TB per file
[06:35] <_4strO> how can i burn multisession Cds with nautilus-burn ??
[06:35] <vaijr2002> worked fine for me
[06:35] <Seveas> Glin|Jol, change default,ro,user to default,ro,user,fmask=0333,dmask=0222
[06:36] <vaijr2002> just remember to set it up to auto mount on boot
[06:36] <vaijr2002> brb
[06:36] <Seveas> Glin|Jol, after making that change type sudo mount -a and you're done :)
[06:37] <Amaranth> ermo: maybe
[06:37] <janc> anyone can tell me if hoary (preview) live CDs have lvm support?
[06:37] <Amaranth> ermo: that'd be close to the last thing i'd do though
[06:37] <ermo> Amaranth, ack
[06:37] <mjr> _4strO, you can't, which sucks
[06:37] <ermo> Amaranth, thx for taking the time to answer, btw!
[06:37] <Amaranth> ermo: I need to get it to work first. :P
[06:37] <Absenth> Airox, is there a way to associate .torrent files with azureus so clicking the link to one automatically starts the application?
[06:37] <Amaranth> see the forums?
[06:37] <_4strO> mjr> are u sure ?
[06:38] <_4strO> or u try with no success ?
[06:38] <ermo> Amaranth, forums? (or weren't you talking to me?)
[06:38] <Glin|Jol> Seveas, i just removed the defaults,ro,user entry and added umask=0222
[06:38] <Amaranth> ermo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21048
[06:38] <mjr> _4strO, yes, I am; I've been wrestling over that issue with the developers on bugzilla for a bit
[06:38] <Glin|Jol> Seveas, is ther anything wrong with that?
[06:38] <Glin|Jol> i can cd into the directory just fine now
[06:38] <Amaranth> ermo: you are using 0.2, right?
[06:38] <ermo> Amaranth, yes
[06:38] <_4strO> oki thx mjr
[06:38] <goldfish_> Amaranth: right click on a torrent, properties, open with >
[06:38] <_4strO> :)
[06:39] <mameluke> hrmmm... hoary doesn't include oo2 beta?
[06:39] <airox> Absenth: keine probleme :)
[06:39] <mameluke> >_<
[06:39] <goldfish_> Amaranth: or something similar
[06:39] <Amaranth> goldfish_: tell Alinux
[06:39] <Seveas> Glin|Jol, you should not remove things, just add the umask/fmask things
[06:39] <goldfish_> ahite
[06:39] <goldfish_> lol
[06:39] <goldfish_> meh
[06:39] <goldfish_> Amaranth: sorry, mis-tab :)
[06:39] <Amaranth> goldfish_: err, Absenth
[06:39] <Glin|Jol> Seveas, i added the entry by hand thats the only reason why i removed them heh
[06:39] <goldfish_> I hate irssi's bloody random tabbing
[06:39] <jalal_ubuntu> how to change the open office language plz ?
[06:39] <Glin|Jol> ive never had to add umask=0222 before
[06:39] <mjr> _4strO, see http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=120384 if you're interested
[06:39] <_4strO> :)
[06:40] <Seveas> Glin|Jol,: /dev/sdb1 /mnt/win_d ntfs ro,user,fmask=0222,dmask=0333 0 0
[06:40] <goldfish_> Absenth: right click a torrent, properties, open with
[06:40] <Tybor2> hi people.... except ext3 what's the "best" filesystem for a /home partition?
[06:40] <Tybor2> reiser jfs or xfs?
[06:40] <Absenth> goldfish_, danke again.
[06:40] <vaijr2002> i hate mysql
[06:40] <vaijr2002> grrrr
[06:40] <ermo> Amaranth, it *is* annoying that one has to log out, then back in to make the changes 'happen'. There ought to be a hook to 'update' the menu in the current session (which, incidentally, should be called when one presses 'save' in Menu Editor)
[06:40] <sig> mysql is nice
[06:40] <Amaranth> ermo: I don't think gnome-menus can do that.
[06:40] <vaijr2002> i cant configure mysql gettin some mysqld sock error grrrr
[06:41] <vaijr2002> sig do you know alot about mysql
[06:41] <Amaranth> ermo: Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes user overrides work, sometimes they don't. gnome-menus is very weird.
[06:41] <tck> anyone else not getting sounds working in amsn 0.94-1 on hoary
[06:41] <ermo> Amaranth, well, sounds like you thinkt that it's annoying too (it *should* be possible don't you agree?)
[06:42] <Amaranth> ermo: It's possible in KDE. :P
[06:42] <vaijr2002> is there a newbie guide to setting up mysql
[06:42] <vaijr2002> something really simple
[06:42] <jalal_ubuntu> how to change the open office interface language  plz ?
[06:42] <thoreauputic> Tybor2: unless you have special needs, it won't make much difference
[06:42] <vaijr2002> i need to make a database, and add accts
[06:42] <ermo> Amaranth, apparently KDE has the menu thing down tight.
[06:42] <ermo> Amaranth, I won't give up my gnome, though.
[06:42] <Amaranth> ermo: They should, the menu spec is based on the menu system they already had.
[06:43] <mjr> jalal_ubuntu, openoffice uses the usual locale settings, but you need to have openoffice.org-l10n-XX packages for your country code installed
[06:43] <mjr> or well, language code
[06:43] <vaijr2002> can someone help me with mysql pleeeease
[06:43] <jalal_ubuntu> mjr, ok i'll try
[06:43] <ermo> Amaranth, ... which also tells me that they engineered it correctly. The goodly gnome-devs have something to catch up to, it would seem. But they're probably plenty busy as it is.
[06:44] <toni^> vaijr2002: /join #mysql
[06:44] <vaijr2002> been there lol
[06:44] <vaijr2002> they keep telling me to go to the site
[06:44] <vaijr2002> i am pretty much a newbie to linux, and its all kinda confusing
[06:44] <vaijr2002> hoping to get some nice person to walk me through it
[06:44] <vaijr2002> i am just trying to install a program that needs mysql and i am kinda lost
[06:45] <^thehatsrule^> install mysql?
[06:45] <vaijr2002> its installed
[06:45] <vaijr2002> but i need to configure it for a program
[06:45] <^thehatsrule^> then set up a user/password according to your program
[06:45] <vaijr2002> i dont know how
[06:45] <ermo> vaijr2002, hate to say it, but there's probably no way around reading a bit, although I'm sure the reading you've done so far has only added to the confusion...
[06:45] <vaijr2002> true ermo
[06:46] <vaijr2002> i dont lean well by reading
[06:46] <vaijr2002> easier for me to have someone show me or do it, and tell me what they did, or show me
[06:46] <Tybor2> thoreauputic, thanks.... I've read that reiser could be much faster than ext3...
[06:46] <vaijr2002> reiserfs is supposed to be awsome
[06:46] <thoreauputic> vaijr2002: with that learning style, IRC is probably not helpful
[06:46] <^thehatsrule^> Tybor2, for small files, yes
[06:46] <Absenth> How well does Ubuntu run on a P2 266 with 128mb of ram?
[06:47] <vaijr2002> lol thoreauputic
[06:47] <ermo> vaijr2002, I know the feeling - sorry I can't help, I'm not much of a DBA myself.
[06:47] <^thehatsrule^> prolly ok... Absenth
[06:47] <thoreauputic> Tybor2: for certain specialised tasks, maybe
[06:47] <mjr> Absenth, might be sluggish, but not unbearable
[06:47] <vaijr2002> ok me gonna go try #mysql
[06:47] <Absenth> ^thehatsrule^, think something like slackware or vector linux might be faster?
[06:47] <vaijr2002> thanks everyone, take care
[06:47] <mjr> Absenth, especially good that it has a 3-figure amount of RAM
[06:47] <^thehatsrule^> yea...
[06:47] <^thehatsrule^> ramdisk needs 100mb of ram
[06:48] <^thehatsrule^> if livecd
[06:48] <^thehatsrule^> but i think hd-install is much much better :P
[06:48] <Absenth> ^thehatsrule^, I'd be doing a full hard drive install.
[06:48] <mjr> Absenth, still, you might want to consider using xfce4 instead of gnome; it's lighter
[06:48] <mjr> Absenth, but you can try first if gnome is too slow for you
[06:48] <Absenth> mjr that's a good idea.  I don't dislike xfce :)
[06:48] <^thehatsrule^> fluxbox!
[06:48] <^thehatsrule^> :D
[06:49] <ermo> Absenth, ... and since it's gtk2, dnd mostly works
[06:49] <thoreauputic> me too for fluxbox! :D
[06:49] <Absenth> The only place I've used fluxbox was Knoppix STD 1.0
[06:49] <^thehatsrule^> i like the gnome interface in ubuntu tho... somehow
[06:50] <^thehatsrule^> heh its very light...
[06:51] <Absenth> ^thehatsrule^, I recently adjusted my FC3 install at work to look a lot more like my Ubuntu install.  I like the top/bottom toolbars.  and the organization of applications on the menus are the best I've seen on a default install.
[06:52] <Absenth> ^thehatsrule^, Mad Penguin reviewed Hoary, and Xandros 3.0 Deluxe.  I think they're crazy for liking the menu layout on Xandros better.
[06:52] <zenrox> i agree
[06:52] <zenrox> i like the menu org.... on ubuntu
[06:52] <mellinux> Hey fellas, is there a program or option for Ubuntu that'll enable two monitors side by side?
[06:53] <ermo> mellinux, Xinerama
[06:53] <zenrox> mellinux,  yes but you got to do it manuley
[06:53] <mjr> mellinux, the X server can do that, but you need to configure it manually
[06:53] <JDahl> mellinux, that's pretty standard in all linux distros
[06:53] <mjr> does it echo here? :)
[06:53] <mellinux> no kidding
[06:53] <mellinux> wow
[06:53] <zenrox> lol
[06:53] <mellinux> that was quite a response, thanks
[06:53] <^thehatsrule^> heh well Absenth, i normally use flux for most stuff
[06:53] <mellinux> okay, so Xinerama = X server?
[06:53] <zenrox> suse is the only distro that has a gui tool for it
[06:53] <mjr> Xinerama is a feature of the X server
[06:54] <zenrox> witch is also a ferture of nvidia drivers
[06:54] <ermo> mellinux, a 'module' if you will
[06:54] <mellinux> Sweet, is the X server in Ubuntu or do I need to download it.
[06:54] <Zane> is there any rpm installer or pacjake manager available with ubuntu
[06:54] <mjr> (though Xinerama is not strictly necessary for dual-head, most people probably expect a Xinerama dual head system when they think of dual head)
[06:54] <mjr> mellinux, it's the thing you probably already run Gnome on
[06:54] <ermo> mellinux, so, it should be there you see
[06:55] <thoreauputic> Zane:  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SynapticHowto
[06:55] <thoreauputic> Zane: that's what you need :)
[06:55] <lrojas> hi all
[06:55] <mjr> mellinux, see http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Xinerama-HOWTO/
[06:55] <Zane> oh
[06:55] <mjr> mellinux, substitute /etc/X11/xorg.conf for XF86Config-4 if you're running Hoary
[06:55] <lrojas> i have a question, how can i refresh the media automounter in ubuntu?
[06:55] <mellinux> I'm running Warty.
[06:55] <thoreauputic> Zane: tha link will tell you how
[06:56] <Zane> thanx thoreautic
[06:56] <thoreauputic> Zane: no worries :)
[06:56] <ermo> mellinux, I used the ressource mjr pointed to. What video card do you have?
[06:56] <mellinux> ..but I have no idea what I'm doing when it comes to installing programs on linux.
[06:56] <zenrox> lrojas,  open system montor and end task the nautilus
[06:56] <mellinux> GeForce FX 5200
[06:56] <zenrox> it will re start
[06:56] <arnaud__> does any of you know how to turn off ipv6 lookups ??? (especially in apt)
[06:56] <mellinux> There's obviously 2 VGA ports on the back.
[06:56] <SeeleyUSMC> Does anyone here use a wireless atheros card?
[06:57] <mjr> mellinux, then, if you use nvidia's binary drivers, you might want to use nvidia's twinview feature, which gives you 3d acceleration (which, I believe, doesn't work with plain xinerama on those drivers)
[06:57] <lrojas> zenrox, it didnt work...
[06:57] <mjr> mellinux, see eg. http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2001-Jun/att-3012/01-TWINVIEW_README for that
[06:57] <lrojas> perhapos if i explain my problem further...
[06:57] <zenrox> lrojas,  dont know any orhter way
[06:58] <zenrox> lrojas,  that be a good idea
[06:58] <lrojas> i have an iPod, sometimes it gets mounted, sometimes it dont...
[06:58] <mjr> mellinux, or http://alufis35.uv.es/spip/article66.html , or google ;)
[06:58] <mellinux> Thanks, mjr.
[06:58] <lrojas> basically i cant figure out why sometimes when i connect the ipod it sends the mount signal
[06:58] <ermo> mjr, I just found out yesterday that the DRI ati radeon drivers won't go into direct rendering mode when using Xinerama, and thus, won't have 3D accel
[06:58] <lrojas> and other times it dont
[06:58] <zenrox> lrojas, it probly is getting mounted every time  just not in the same spot
[06:58] <lrojas> zenrox, so i was wondering...
[06:59] <ermo> mjr, did you watch formula one?
[06:59] <lrojas> well, when it does get mounted i find it at /media/ipod
[06:59] <mjr> ermo, yah, but X.org has "mergedfb" support for that, which basically does the same thing as twinview on nvidia
[06:59] <mjr> no
[06:59] <lrojas> so, i was wondering what subsystem handles the /media directory
[06:59] <ermo> mjr, "mergedfb"?
[06:59] <lrojas> to see if i can make it mount it
[07:00] <zenrox> lrojas,  you can manuly mount it
[07:00] <lrojas> how?
[07:00] <ermo> mjr, does that imply running X on the framebuffer?
[07:00] <mjr> ermo, essentially the same as xinerama, but the frame buffer is arranged to be one big canvas in the video card memory
[07:00] <lrojas> is connected to the firewire port
[07:00] <mjr> ermo, no
[07:00] <zenrox> lrojas,  sudo mount -t filesystemhere /dev/location /media/ipod
[07:01] <ermo> mjr, is it stable yet?
[07:01] <lrojas> and how do i find what /dev/ is my ipod?
[07:01] <mjr> 'course, there are limitations on it; eg. the radeons up to 9250 won't do 3d acceleration on over 2048 pixels (but stuff that stays within those bounds does work)
[07:01] <mjr> (even if the total resolution is higher)
[07:01] <mjr> ermo, yes
[07:01] <zenrox> lrojas,  find out when it auto mounts it or plug it in and reboot
[07:02] <ermo> mjr, so, you are using mergedfb?
[07:02] <lrojas> ok
[07:02] <lrojas> thanks
[07:02] <zenrox> then look in the system montor agine
[07:02] <mjr> ermo, yes, on hoary
[07:02] <mjr> ermo, and I've played long games of nwn on it without problems ;)
[07:03] <ermo> mjr, *yiippeeeeee*
[07:03] <ermo> mjr, link?
[07:03] <dieffel> hi all! Anyone who can recommand a good FTP-server with GUI for Ubuntu?
[07:03] <zenrox> mjr,  another nwn player here
[07:03] <zenrox> woohoo
[07:03] <^thehatsrule^> proftpd... is the only one i know of - theres prolly a gui somewhere too
[07:04] <thoreauputic> dieffel: why do you need a GUI for an ftp server??
[07:04] <dieffel> i think its the most simple for me right now.
[07:04] <^thehatsrule^> guess for adding users?
[07:05] <^thehatsrule^> dunno, maybe he likes the point-click ;p
[07:05] <dieffel> thoreauputic, what can u recommend?
[07:05] <Absenth> What's wrong with point and click?
[07:05] <dieffel> thats why i uswe ubuntu :)
[07:05] <thoreauputic> dieffel: proftpd - but don't know anout the GUI part
[07:05] <mjr> ermo, don't have a good one; google around. I can send you my config though if you like?
[07:05] <Absenth> don't get me wrong, the command line is my friend.  but after a half dozen beers, point an click require less brain power.
[07:06] <^thehatsrule^> haha
[07:06] <SeeleyUSMC> Anyone know what the latest stable kernel is?  I need to to do my Madwifi install
[07:06] <thoreauputic> Absenth: hehe - admining a server after 6 beers? *grin*
[07:06] <Absenth> thoreauputic, what's wrong with that?
[07:07] <thoreauputic> nothing, have fun  :)
[07:07] <ermo> mjr, sure thing. Perhaps just paste the relevant section in a /query?
[07:07] <Absenth> heh....
[07:07] <mjr> ermo, nah, I'll save some of the bother for you ;)
[07:07] <thoreauputic> Absenth: can we have the IP for your server, so we can play too ?
[07:07] <Absenth> ^thehatsrule^, I'm a lot more likely to rm -Rf /home/* after 6 beers then to give full access to everyone.
[07:07] <mjr> ermo, I have multiple configurations there so don't get confused
[07:08] <^thehatsrule^> :P
[07:08] <mjr> the RadeonM one is for merged framebuffer
[07:08] <Glin|Jol> i am currently using kunbuntu
[07:08] <Glin|Jol> and i am having a real hard time editing my kde meus
[07:08] <Glin|Jol> i use kmenuedit but noone of the changes i make are saved
[07:09] <Doomhammer> guys, how do I get Ubuntu to recognize my IDE tape drive?
[07:09] <thoreauputic> Glin|Jol: /join #kubuntu, I suggest :)
[07:09] <Absenth> thoreauputic, I could give you an account on this machine if you like.  the chances you could get to it from there however are pretty slim.
[07:09] <mjr> ermo, here's a somewhat relevant link too: http://gefechtsdienst.de/uman/xorg-alpha.html
[07:09] <bung__> anyone know of a neat way to have java 1.4 and 1.5 on the same box?
[07:09] <thoreauputic> Absenth: yeah, i was kidding :)
[07:09] <Absenth> thoreauputic, this one only allows remote access from one specific host on the external interface.
[07:09] <ermo> mjr, what's that "Composite" thing? alpha-blending?
[07:09] <^thehatsrule^> bung_, why would you need both?
[07:09] <Glin|Jol> thoreauputic: heh thanks
[07:10] <airox> ermo: and shadows ;)
[07:10] <bung__> because I trust 1.4, but I need to use 1.5 for some practical :)
[07:10] <mjr> ermo, oh yeah, that's the composite extension, which isn't just for that, but yeah, you can do stuff like that with it
[07:10] <Doomhammer> how do I get Ubuntu to recognize my IDE tape drive, and have it in /dev so I can mount it?
[07:10] <SeeleyUSMC> should I use the latest stable kernel?
[07:10] <mjr> ermo, by the way, it's not suggested to be used with 3d accel currently, and is dubbed otherwise unstable too ;)
[07:11] <mjr> I don't really use composite day-to-day, but I like to have it enabled if I want to test something out
[07:11] <thoreauputic> bung__: 1.5 seems to work OK here
[07:11] <Absenth> finally....  my office is <20c
[07:11] <Doomhammer> how do I get Ubuntu to recognize my IDE tape drive, and have it in /dev so I can mount it?
[07:11] <LinuxJones> Doomhammer, this might help ?? >> http://www.aplawrence.com/Bofcusm/2043.html
[07:11] <thoreauputic> bung__: ah, but I just have the jre
[07:11] <bung__> I know it'd probably work
[07:11] <Trixisity> Hey all, just new on ubuntu now for about 2 hours, how does one deal with rpm's?
[07:11] <bung__> but I'd rather have the fallback.
[07:12] <Doomhammer> LinuxJones: yes, however, I don't have a /dev/ht0
[07:12] <SeeleyUSMC> DarthFrog: Hey :)
[07:12] <thoreauputic> Trixisity: one doesn't - ubuntu uses debs
[07:12] <Absenth> Trixisity, I know there's some app that converts rpm
[07:12] <Doomhammer> as far as Ubuntu is concerned, I dont' have a tape drive
[07:12] <Trixisity> okay
[07:12] <Trixisity> thanks
[07:12] <thoreauputic> Trixisity: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SynapticHowto
[07:12] <DarthFrog> Hi SeeleyUSMC, Good morning.
[07:12] <Trixisity> just compile from scratch then?
[07:12] <Absenth> Trixisity, I know there's some app that converts rpm's to .deb files, however I've yet to find an rpm that didn't have an apt equiv.
[07:12] <thoreauputic> Trixisity: read the link above
[07:12] <Trixisity> o
[07:12] <Trixisity> k
[07:12] <Trixisity> limewire
[07:12] <bung__> Absenth: alien, I think it's called
[07:13] <LinuxJones> Doomhammer, you might search google for makedev ide tape drive
[07:13] <SeeleyUSMC> DarthFrog: according to the madwifi howto, I'm supposed to use the latest kernel, should I get the latest kernel from kernel.org?
[07:13] <thoreauputic> Trixisity: for jave, read http://ubuntuguide.org
[07:13] <DarthFrog> SeeleyUSMC: Your kernel is recent enough.
[07:13] <thoreauputic> Trixisity: I meant * java of course
[07:14] <bung__> thoreauputic: I couldn't see anything handy for having both 1.4 and 1.5
[07:14] <Trixisity> yes
[07:14] <Trixisity> thanks
[07:14] <plagerism> For k3b to handle mp3s what package needs to be installed??
[07:14] <SeeleyUSMC> DarthFrog: so I shouldn't worry about downloading the newest kernel?
[07:14] <bung__> gentoo has java-select for this, which is neat.
[07:14] <thoreauputic> bung__: coudn't it be installed in /opt or something?
[07:15] <bung__> there are a load of symlinks in /etc/alternatives
[07:15] <AMIGrAve> is there a Aoss package in ubuntu ?
[07:15] <bung__> but I'm not sure if there's an automagical way to manage them
[07:15] <thoreauputic> bung__: update-alternatives?
[07:16] <Absenth> I don't suppose anyone has a link handy for surround sound on an nForce2 motherboard's onboard sound?
[07:16] <DarthFrog> SeeleyUSMC: Nope.  You can try getting the latest Ubuntu kernel via synaptic, though.  Make sure you do a Reload first, then search for linux-image.
[07:16] <bung__> thoreauputic: never heard of it, ta
[07:16] <Absenth> something that will hopefully work in cedega
[07:16] <SeeleyUSMC> DarthFrog: k
[07:16] <tck> anyone know where to get the w32codecs for hoary ?
[07:16] <SeeleyUSMC> DarthFrog: I just got the latest and greatest madwifi and now Im reading up on it
[07:16] <sal002> Anyone have problems with grub in warty after doing as apt-get upgrade?
[07:17] <DarthFrog> SeeleyUSMC: :-)
[07:17] <sal002> I get a file not found looking for the -5-pkg-tmp kernel.  Only kernel found is -3 which segfaults
[07:17] <DarthFrog> sal002: Nope, its worked every time.
[07:17] <sal002> Hmmm...Is there a way to probe in grub to see what kernels I have installed (look at the filesystem)?
[07:18] <DarthFrog> sal002: look at /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:18] <sal002> DarthFrog: What kernel are you running?
[07:18] <Absenth> Whoever suggested Alien as the tool to convert .RPM to .DEB was right on the money.  It appears to have a problem where it looses dependencies, which leads me to believe Apt or Synaptic is a much better way to go if at all possible.
[07:18] <Glin|Jol> how can i search for a specific package using apt-get
[07:18] <sal002> I can't boot into Ubuntu right now
[07:18] <restrex> who knows a howto of the pearpc package at ubuntu?
[07:18] <Glin|Jol> i am trying to install mplayer
[07:18] <Smeve1> error while loading shared libraries: libplds4.so <-- i keep getting that error
[07:18] <Glin|Jol> and apt-get install mplayer says there are no packages
[07:18] <restrex> I've seen it at ubuntu hoary.
[07:18] <restrex> ?
[07:18] <sal002> apt-cache search mplayer
[07:18] <restrex> Glin|Jol you've to compile it.
[07:18] <DarthFrog> sal002: 2.6.10-5-k7
[07:19] <Glin|Jol> restrex: !!!
[07:19] <Glin|Jol> arg
[07:19] <restrex> Glin|Jol it's easy
[07:19] <Smeve1> error while loading shared libraries: libplds4.so <-- i what do i need to do to fix that
[07:19] <sal002> Darth: Have you done an apt-get upgrade recently?
[07:19] <Absenth> WooT!  that's the kernel I'm running.
[07:19] <restrex> Glin|Jol you have to install some packages =)
[07:19] <restrex> and compile it.
[07:19] <arek> Glin|Jol: apt-cache search mplayer but there is no :)
[07:19] <Glin|Jol> restrex: yeah i can compile
[07:19] <Absenth> I do think the machine acts a bit snappier now that I'm running the K7 vs the noarch kernel.
[07:19] <Glin|Jol> just surprised
[07:19] <DarthFrog> sal002: I'm doing update and dist-upgrade daily.
[07:20] <DarthFrog> sal002: Just did one.
[07:20] <restrex> Glin|Jol what architecture?
[07:20] <Absenth> Glin|Jol, did you add the universe and multiverse?
[07:20] <Glin|Jol> restrex: i686
[07:20] <sal002> Hmmm...why did it update my grub to point to some -tmp-pkg kernel
[07:20] <Glin|Jol> Absenth: not that i know of, what is that
[07:20] <restrex> ok
[07:20] <restrex> install it from multiverse
[07:20] <DarthFrog> Absenth: :-)  Well, at least you know that you're running a kernel tailored to your architecture.
[07:20] <sal002> Can the install CD boot to a point where I can mount the filesystem?
[07:20] <restrex> =)
[07:21] <Absenth> Glin|Jol, /etc/apt/sources.list add the following
[07:21] <Absenth> coming in a msg
[07:23] <dolphy> what's the equivalent of /etc/sysconfig/iptables (Fedora) on Ubuntu? Which init.d script will load firewall rules ?
[07:23] <wjesusaxl> hey guys ....
[07:24] <wjesusaxl> I've got problems switching to KDE from GNOME
[07:24] <wjesusaxl> I can't apt-get install kde-core..
[07:24] <malte__> what's apt-get say?
[07:24] <DarthFrog> dolphy: Good question, don't know the answer.  Do you have a firewall installed?
[07:24] <DarthFrog> wjesusaxl: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:24] <wjesusaxl> what_
[07:25] <dolphy> DarthFrog: well i ve a big iptables file from my old fedora installation
[07:25] <dolphy> DarthFrog: and i m trying to migrate to ubuntu :)
[07:25] <Absenth> DarthFrog, would that command give you both KDE and Gnome as options from the login window?
[07:25] <wjesusaxl> there are a lot of unmet dependencies
[07:25] <sal002> My /boot/initrd is gone for -5
[07:25] <malte__> Absenth, yes :)
[07:25] <malte__> uhm
[07:25] <dolphy> DarthFrog: iptables-restore < my_file works...
[07:25] <DarthFrog> dolphy: Pull it over and write your own script?  Or load the rules from rc.local?
[07:25] <Absenth> That's awesome....
[07:25] <sal002> Is the live cd the only way I will be able to view my filesystem if I can no longer boot?
[07:26] <DarthFrog> Absenth: It should.
[07:26] <dolphy> DarthFrog: ok so there's nothing prepared for that then. I'll handle it myself
[07:26] <DarthFrog> dolphy: Urk!  I didn't say that.  I said I didn't know.
[07:26] <dolphy> DarthFrog: and for ip forwarding in sysctl ? Do i have to manually edit /etc/init.d/networking ?
[07:26] <wjesusaxl> I have so many unmet dependencies
[07:26] <sal002> And is there current a problem with iptables?
[07:26] <dolphy> DarthFrog: ah sorry :)
[07:27] <sal002> Alternatively, has anyone safely done an apt-get dist-upgrade to hoary from warty?
[07:27] <DarthFrog> dolphy: I've seen nothing about IP forwarding.  You might want to google for it.
[07:27] <dolphy> sal002: i just did
[07:27] <LinuxJones> sal002, most everybody
[07:27] <DarthFrog> sal002: It's safe.
[07:27] <wjesusaxl> can't install KDE!!! help me out!
[07:27] <LinuxJones> wjesusaxl, what's the problem ?
[07:27] <dolphy> DarthFrog: i'll do. thx
[07:27] <DarthFrog> wjesusaxl: Hey bud, I already told you what to do.
[07:28] <wjesusaxl> but it didn't work
[07:28] <DarthFrog> wjesusaxl: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:28] <LinuxJones> wjesusaxl, apt-get update && apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:28] <wjesusaxl> more unmet dependencies
[07:28] <DarthFrog> wjesusaxl: What are you running?
[07:28] <wjesusaxl> already done...
[07:28] <wjesusaxl> ubunut
[07:28] <sal002> Okay...I'll do that later today...warty is giving me so many problems ;)
[07:28] <DarthFrog> wjesusaxl: Warty or Hoary?
[07:28] <wjesusaxl> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:28] <wjesusaxl> Hoary
[07:28] <SeeleyUSMC> I can't seem to find out what the latest wireless tools version is
[07:28] <LinuxJones> wjesusaxl, what files have unmet dependencies can you post them to www.pastebin.ca ?
[07:28] <SeeleyUSMC> anyone know?
[07:28] <DarthFrog> SeeleyUSMC: It's installed.
[07:29] <wjesusaxl> wait a sec
[07:29] <sal002> Too bad I have to wait until I download the live cd to test it out.
[07:29] <mdz> SeeleyUSMC: 27-1ubuntu1 in hoary
[07:29] <DarthFrog> sal002: Why?
[07:29] <SeeleyUSMC> DarthFrog: so 27-1 is the latest?
[07:29] <DarthFrog> SeeleyUSMC: They'll do you just fine. :-)  That's not the problem.
[07:30] <wjesusaxl> done
[07:30] <wjesusaxl> http://www.pastebin.com/260645
[07:30] <dolphy> DarthFrog: found it :) /etc/network/options
[07:30] <wjesusaxl> that's when I tried kubuntu-desktop
[07:31] <sal002> DarthFrog: I can't boot in.  Grub either gives me "File Not Found" or I get some nasty debugging message with -3 kernel
[07:31] <DarthFrog> SeeleyUSMC: Your problem is that your mini-PCI Atheros chip doesn't seem to be  supported by the version of madwifi that you have installed.   I'm not really thinking that compiling from CVS will change that but lets give it a shot.
[07:31] <Absenth> Alright, I've got Ubuntu Hoary on a 2400+, Xandros 3.0 on a 1900+,  what should I install on the P2 266?
[07:31] <LinuxJones> wjesusaxl, yikes
[07:31] <AMIGrAve> under firefox, the file dialog is not the same under debian (don't know if it's due to newer version or a gnome config) How can I use the same file dialog than debian ?
[07:31] <sal002> Absenth: Crux
[07:31] <DarthFrog> Absenth: Put Gentoo from Stage One on the P2 266. :-)
[07:32] <wjesusaxl> What happened?
[07:32] <LinuxJones> wjesusaxl, can you try to install kdebase kdm and see if it pulls down enough of kde to get your up and running for now ?
[07:32] <DarthFrog> sal002:  did you bugger up your menu.lst file?
[07:32] <zenrox> wjesusaxl, or sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:32] <wjesusaxl> nop...
[07:33] <sal002> Darth: How do I do that in grub?
[07:33] <mattgirv> Hey I am running Openbox at the moment, but how can I get it to run certain applications when I start it?
[07:33] <mattgirv> (I start it through GDM)
[07:33] <LinuxJones> zenrox, there are unmet dependencies with kubuntu-desktop
[07:33] <Absenth> ok, Gentoo is out of the question....  Portage is cool, but if I wanted that I'd load openbsd and have real ports :)
[07:33] <zenrox> LinuxJones,  like what
[07:33] <LinuxJones> zenrox, >> http://www.pastebin.com/260645
[07:33] <Absenth> sal002, what's Crux?
[07:33] <wjesusaxl> it's still not working :(
[07:33] <sal002> absenth: crux.nu - small distro
[07:34] <zenrox> LinuxJones,  thats odd
[07:34] <LinuxJones> zenrox, I'm sure it will get fixed for him within a day or so
[07:34] <Absenth> I'll be honest, the 266 will likely be used mostly for booting diskless to one of the other two computers via LTSP.
[07:34] <Absenth> but it'd be nice to have an OS on it as well.
[07:35] <zenrox> LinuxJones,  ya it sould be
[07:35] <mattgirv> anyone have an idea?
[07:35] <sal002> I would do Crux....or be more adventerous and do ReactOS
[07:35] <sal002> Actually, if you don't need Linux - do BeOS
[07:35] <LinuxJones> wjesusaxl, you should join #kubuntu and let them know there are some problems with the desktop package.
[07:35] <DarthFrog> sal002: You can have command line editing in grub.  You can tell it at boot time, by editing the command line, what kernel to boot, where it is, what your root device is, etc.  The syntax is identical to what you see in /etc/boot/menu.lst.  You must first figure out what is going wrong (sounds like it doesn't know where your kernel is, should be in /boot) then tell it what to do.
[07:35] <plagerism> Why doesnt K3B support mp3s in Ubunto hoary?? It doesnt even depend on libmad0??
[07:35] <Absenth> downloading crux now, going to look at React in a min or two :)
[07:36] <sal002> DarthFrog: Yep - but I need to know which kernel to boot - and I don't know what is on the system without booting into Linux - which I cannot do.  Catch-22
[07:36] <Absenth> sal002, where does one aquire a working iso of beos these days?  I've looked and never come across one.
[07:36] <plagerism> Is there any other good burning software that supports mp3s in Hoary??
[07:36] <sal002> bebits.com
[07:36] <zenwhen> plagerism, yes
[07:36] <Xappe> plagerism, graveman and/or gnomebaker
[07:36] <zenwhen> graveman
[07:36] <zenwhen> beaten
[07:36] <zenwhen> graveman is great
[07:36] <sal002> Absenth: http://www.bebits.com/app/3148
[07:37] <plagerism> So is there actually a reason why K3B doesnt support mp3s in HOary??  Or is that just a mistake??
[07:37] <DarthFrog> sal002: You can boot the live CD and look at the file system.  You can edit menu.lst so that it's correct and grub should then boot your system properly.  Unlike LILO, grub doesn't need anything more to process changes in its config file.
[07:37] <zenwhen> K3b supports mp3's on my system
[07:37] <Hannes_> can I mount a EXT2 partition from livecd?
[07:37] <zenwhen> wait maybe it doesnt
[07:37] <plagerism> okay then perhaps its just the Amd64 port
[07:37] <Absenth> sal002, Danke
[07:37] <vordul> plagerism - Could it be because of copyright reasons?
[07:37] <zenwhen> who needs it when you can use graveman
[07:38] <plagerism> zenwhen if its good then I wont complain, I just like k3b its a good solid all-in-one
[07:38] <HillTop> The famous fork bomb was mentioned in the news and Debian was not effected (servives).  http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/308   Do I dare try it on Hoary?
[07:38] <DarthFrog> plagerism: Like your nick, MP3 are not free. :-)  You can get MP3 support from the Multiverse repository.
[07:39] <DarthFrog> HillTop: Go for it!  Let us know if you survive. :-)
[07:39] <calc> HillTop: someone in the thread about that claimed that debian was effected as well and the author just didn't test it, so try at your own risk ;)
[07:39] <wonderone> can anyone tell me why some upgrades with hoary cause the system to become slow and sluggish? I'm experiencing it now, and have done in the past.
[07:39] <DarthFrog> wonderone: Use top as a diagnostic tool.
[07:40] <elshadii> I'm trying to find a how to that will explain the steps to get a root account in ubuntu can someone help?
[07:40] <calc> i do know in the past i have taken debian down with a fork bomb but that was several years ago
[07:40] <DarthFrog> elshadii: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#setchangeenablerootpassword
[07:40] <elshadii> ok thank you!!
[07:40] <wonderone> DarthFrog, which stat should I look at? I dont see any out of control processes
[07:40] <HillTop> DarthFrog, Aaak, Actually I'm not in Hoary now (pclinuxos) but I might just try it in the live CD next time it is up.
[07:40] <DarthFrog> wonderone: Keep monitoring.  Get to know what's going on, on your system.
[07:42] <wonderone> hard to find, when i dont know what i'm looking for though.and i've not installed anything new, only upgraded. so i assume it's a broken program or something
[07:42] <gasteiz23> hi
[07:42] <mattgirv> Can someone help me with the GDM Xsession files, I have Openbox and would like to launch more than Openbox, when choosing that through GDM... I have the Openbox.desktop file open, and there is Exec=openbox, can I add commands to this?
[07:45] <Dr_Aevil> hi guys - I notice that alsaconf seems to be missing from the alsa packages provided by ubuntu in hoary - what do you use in ubuntu to configure alsa? or are you reduced to editing /etc/modlues.conf, /etc/modprobe.conf, I think it's /etc/modprobe.d/* in hoary?
[07:45] <LinuxJones> Dr_Aevil, manually editing :(
[07:45] <odie5533> Can you change your mouse cursor on Gnome?
[07:46] <Dr_Aevil> LinuxJones: ah, ok thanks - just wanted to check before I spent any time when there is a nice config tool I just hadn't noticed :)
[07:46] <LinuxJones> ;)
[07:46] <Dr_Aevil> my housemate has installed ubuntu and he wants his nice 5.1 surround working - he's trying to get the nforce drivers to work, but it loads the intel ones in preference; I shall go make it load nvsound now :)
[07:47] <Spooks> Someone explain to this newb how I install this updated version of Firefox now I've downloaded it please?
[07:47] <DarthFrog> Spooks: Where did you get it from?
[07:47] <mattgirv> Spooks: Are you running Warty then.
[07:47] <Spooks> The official site
[07:47] <Spooks> I am, yes
[07:47] <mattgirv> Because if you are I suggest you just add the Backports Repos,
[07:47] <mattgirv> That would probably be the safest bet to get Firefox 1
[07:48] <Spooks> That went straight over my head
[07:48] <mattgirv> www.ubuntuforums.org
[07:48] <DarthFrog> mattgirv: Do you have a URL for backports?
[07:48] <odie5533> Is it possible to change the cursor on Ubuntu Gnome?
[07:48] <mattgirv> Yeah one sec, I will get you a direct link
[07:48] <mattgirv> http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=47
[07:48] <mattgirv> :)
[07:48] <zenrox> odie5533,  get gcurser
[07:49] <zenrox> gcursor
[07:49] <zenrox> for the repos
[07:49] <sal002> I'll try out the livecd
[07:49] <zenrox> from
[07:49] <indiefusion> I'm having trouble getting my Envy24 sound card (driver snd-ice1724) working.  When I modprobe, I get no errors, but Ubuntu will not detect it.  It shows up in lspci
[07:49] <phxguy> Can anyone here Help a newbie with installing the nvidia drivers....
[07:49] <odie5533> downloading
[07:49] <zenrox> phxguy,  read www.ubuntuguide.org
[07:49] <DarthFrog> Spooks:  What mattgirv means, is don't install the software that you downloaded.  Instead, use the Ubuntu package manager (Synaptic) to get it from the backports repository (read the URL he just posted).  It's best to not put software on your system except through the package mangement system.
[07:49] <punkrockguy318> Is there any way I can write a script to change all my GNOME default font sizes?  I want a quick way to change my fonts sizes for when i'm in front of the computer or far away...
[07:50] <mattgirv> DarthFrog and Spooks if you check this site out as well : http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/ it will tell you everything
[07:50] <phxguy> zenrox,  Im there now but for some reason i get an error when i enter the command from the root terminal nautilus applications:///System
[07:50] <encKe`> Ubuntu as a server......  any comments?
[07:50] <zenrox> that doent work in hoary
[07:50] <zenrox> phxguy,
[07:51] <phxguy> zenrox, It says :applications:///System is not a valid location.:
[07:51] <mattgirv> Yeah they got rid of that I think, in Gnome 2.10
[07:51] <zenrox> phxguy,  ya thats broke in hoary
[07:51] <DarthFrog> mattgirv: Thanks.  I've added it to my list of helpful URLs. :-)
[07:51] <zenrox> phxguy,  but the rest works
[07:51] <phxguy> zenrox, Any workarounds???
[07:52] <mattgirv> DarthFrog: No probs, in all honesty, I would give the Hoary Preview Release a go, its very stable for me :)
[07:52] <mattgirv> (but it might not be for you, but its definately worth a try anyway :P)
[07:52] <zenrox> phxguy,  get the gnome menu editor and add it to the menu manuley
[07:52] <phxguy> zenrox, so should I just skip that command and move on???
[07:52] <zenrox> phxguy,  yep
[07:52] <DarthFrog> mattgirv: hehe, I've been running it for quite a while.  You and I were both trying to help a newbie.
[07:53] <mattgirv> phxguy: A good menu editor is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20705 :)
[07:53] <zenrox> mattgirv,  is right that one works
[07:53] <DarthFrog> Spooks: Also have a look at http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[07:54] <phxguy> mattgirv, I tried installing that last night and couldn't get it to install
[07:54] <mattgirv> zenrox, yeah I like that one, but you cannot delete entries, still miles better than nothing :D
[07:54] <mattgirv> phxguy, you downloaded and then did an "alien -i packagename.i386.deb" ?
[07:54] <phxguy> yup
[07:54] <zenrox> mattgirv,  agreed
[07:55] <mattgirv> hmm strange, worked for me
[07:55] <phxguy> thats is what I did mattgirv
[07:55] <Trixisity> What kinda P2P programs do any of you use?
[07:55] <mattgirv> what went wrong?
[07:55] <phxguy> i can try it again....
[07:55] <mattgirv> yeah, tell me if it gives any errors
[07:55] <zenrox> Trixisity,  limewire
[07:55] <plagerism> graveman I like, its exactly what I was looking for.  Thank yo
[07:55] <Xappe> Trixisity, linuxdcpp for direct connect (and sometimes valknut)
[07:55] <mattgirv> Limewire Pro here, very nice imo :)
[07:56] <Trixisity> how did you install that on ubuntu zenrox?
[07:56] <mattgirv> I have heard, erm I forgot its name lol, but it supports basically ALL the p2p networks, couldnt get it working well though :(
[07:56] <zenrox> Trixisity,  www.ubuntuguide.org
[07:56] <mattgirv> And it had an awful interface.
[07:56] <Xappe> oh, I read peer to peer
[07:56] <Trixisity> where can I find an APT package?
[07:56] <Trixisity> yes I've been to that side
[07:56] <plagerism> mattgirv edonkey
[07:56] <mattgirv> Hmm,
[07:56] <plagerism> it made no sense
[07:56] <zenrox> Trixisity, its on that site and how to install it
[07:56] <mattgirv> Might of been edonkey,
[07:57] <Trixisity> ow missed that tnx alot zenrox
[07:57] <plagerism> it was if you are talking about terrible interface, I could never get it to work
[07:57] <encKe`> how many chans are you allowed to join on Freenode??
[07:57] <mattgirv> plagerism, lol :P
[07:57] <roey> hi
[07:57] <thoreauputic> encKe`: as many as you like , AFAIK
[07:57] <zenrox> hello roam
[07:57] <roey> [13:56]  <roey> what's kubuntu's default root password
[07:57] <roey> [13:56]  <roey> I try the instructions at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/root
[07:57] <zenrox> err roey
[07:57] <roey> [13:56]  <billytwowilly> there is no root password.
[07:57] <roey> [13:57]  <roey> but there apparently is a password set.
[07:57] <roey> hmm?
[07:58] <encKe`> hmmm....... mine wont get past 4
[07:58] <encKe`> dont see anyting in xchat to change it
[07:58] <phxguy> mattgirv, Wierd Seems to install okay that time....
[07:58] <punkrockguy318> does a dualdesktop work smoothly with ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop?
[07:58] <alican> Hi all
[07:59] <mattgirv> phxguy, lol :)
[07:59] <DarthFrog> punkrockguy318: Yes
[07:59] <punkrockguy318> DarthFrog, what DM would be used? gdm? kdm?
[07:59] <DarthFrog> punkrockguy318: Could use either.
[07:59] <DarthFrog> punkrockguy318: You can set it to use the one you want.
[07:59] <punkrockguy318> alright
[07:59] <Absenth> anyone here a Cedega user?
[08:00] <Spooks> k, added the lines explained to sources.list, but I can't save. Any ideas?
[08:00] <punkrockguy318> Absenth, yes, why?
[08:00] <mattgirv> Does anyone know how I can get Openbox to start pypanel and torsmo when I load it through GDM?
[08:00] <Absenth> punkrockguy318, what file system to you use?
[08:01] <punkrockguy318> Absenth, reiserfs
[08:01] <phxguy> mattgirv, I have another question.... When i throw something in the trash.... it doesn't show up there....
[08:01] <DarthFrog> Spooks: Did you do it via sudo?  You have to have root priviliges for that.
[08:01] <phxguy> mattgirv, but if i goto .Trash it is showing there....
[08:01] <Spooks> ah
[08:01] <Absenth> punkrockguy318, is there a pretty visable performance gain over ext3?
[08:01] <Tilos> Should I try Warty or Hoary? (Does Warty have Gnome 2.8?)
[08:01] <punkrockguy318> i doubt it
[08:01] <mattgirv> phxguy, hmm, I had a sort of problem similar, it was to do with one bin being called something else, like one was called Trash , and the other Trashbin
[08:02] <mattgirv> Like it was some sort of redundant feature, I assume it was a bug though :/
[08:02] <alican> hi I just installed Kubuntu .. my 2.eth card is Davicom and uses tulip now. but I want to use dmfe driver . both tulip and dmfe is in lsmod list.. How can I make eth1 use dmfe instead of tulip and remove tulip driver
[08:02] <DarthFrog> Spooks: You can also do it via Synaptic.  Settings/Repositories.
[08:02] <Spooks> I tried, it keeps disappearing
[08:02] <Xappe> Tilos, warty: gnome 2.8, Hoary: gnome 2.10
[08:02] <Spooks>  :\
[08:02] <phxguy> mattgirv, did you get it fixed??
[08:02] <Tilos> Xappe: Thanks.
[08:02] <mattgirv> Well all it was, was that a Trash Bin had appeared on my desktop, the tray bin was still working fine
[08:02] <DarthFrog> alican: If it's a tulip chipset, then the dmfe driver won't work.  dmfe is for the Davcom chipset.
[08:02] <mattgirv> :)
[08:03] <thoreauputic> Spooks: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list , save and quit
[08:03] <phxguy> mattgirv, yeah i went to the configuration editor and check the box to show the desktop... it shows but doesn't update when item are sent there
[08:04] <phxguy> ....and neither does the one in the bottom panel
[08:04] <alican> darkling,  I know it works with dmfe and doesnt work with tulip.. I am sure (from other dists.) I just wantto know how can I edit kernel modules and assign drivers to devices
[08:04] <mattgirv> Hmm that is strange, I am afraid I don't know why that is :(
[08:05] <phxguy> well thanks for your help on the nvidia thing.. =)
[08:05] <phxguy> It says i need to restart X... suppose Ill do that now
[08:05] <mattgirv> Heh
[08:05] <mattgirv> ctrl + alt + backspace
[08:05] <mattgirv> Does anyone know how I can get Openbox to start pypanel and torsmo when I load it through GDM?
[08:05] <alican> DarthFrog, I know it works with dmfe and doesnt work with tulip.. I am sure (from other dists.) I just wantto know how can I edit kernel modules and assign drivers to devices
[08:06] <Spooks> Oh wow. I'm starting to understand this now. I can see how it fits together. Thanks guys
[08:07] <thoreauputic> mattgirv: make a file   ~/.xsession , put the apps you want to start on separate lines with & , the last line just  openbox ( no &)
[08:07] <mattgirv> But won't that exec them apps, regardless of the WM/DE i choose?
[08:07] <thoreauputic> mattgirv: then choose system session in gdm
[08:07] <mattgirv> I only want them to load with Openbox
[08:07] <Yomic> Where do the drivers for USB connected WiFi devices go?
[08:08] <DarthFrog> alican: you would do that in /etc/modules.d. Create a file called whatever you want and add the line "alias eth0 dmfe". Then reboot.
[08:08] <thoreauputic> mattgirv: .xsession is only used by the "system sessioN"
[08:08] <mattgirv> oki
[08:08] <thoreauputic> or whatever gdm calls it
[08:09] <DarthFrog> Spooks: Good stuff!  Have fun & welcome to the Light Side of The Force. :-)
[08:09] <alican> DarthFrog, ok then how can I remove tulip module .. I do not want it to be loaded at boot
[08:09] <DarthFrog> alican: /etc/modutils, sorry, not modules.d
[08:09] <\sh> straw : module gtkhtml2 not found
[08:09] <\sh> and I can't find a package for python gtkhtml2
[08:09] <Spooks> hehe :p
[08:10] <DarthFrog> alican: Find the module in the lib/modules/ hierarchy and rename it. :-)
[08:10] <thoreauputic> \sh: try sudo apt-get install liferea - very similar to straw
[08:11] <mattgirv> Thanks so much thoreauputic :)
[08:11] <mattgirv> Worked a charm heh.
[08:11] <odie5533> Where do people normally put desktop backgrounds/splash screens?
[08:11] <wezzer> backgrounds can be put anywhere
[08:11] <thoreauputic> mattgirv: no wories :)
[08:11] <odie5533> But is there a standard place to put them?
[08:11] <wezzer-_> not really
[08:12] <wezzer-_> I have them at /home/antti/photos
[08:12] <ThePfhor> I just have a folder ~/Pictures, but the OS doesn't care
[08:12] <\sh> thoreauputic, well..i hope its just usable like akregator
[08:12] <wezzer-_> ... where are my other photos also
[08:12] <thoreauputic> \sh: I've used both - they both work fine, and look very similar
[08:12] <\sh> and its not in the tree
[08:12] <supos> Is the firefox icons supposed to look the way they do in Hoary? (Is this a bug or a feature?)
[08:13] <supos> s/is/are
[08:13] <\sh> lol
[08:13] <\sh> liferea
[08:13] <thoreauputic> \sh: the tree?
[08:13] <Taraxacum> what was the page again for the sudo root thing?
[08:14] <\sh> thoreauputic, have it
[08:15] <thoreauputic> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo/view?searchterm=sudo%20root
[08:15] <snk00sj-> does ubuntu have nvidia drivers in it ?
[08:16] <snk00sj-> trying to manually compile the nvidia drivers, but it's being a pain in my **
[08:16] <snk00sj-> :)
[08:16] <Absenth> snk00sj-, yes.  Easiest way to install the accellerated drivers is through synaptic
[08:16] <snk00sj-> ah thats good to hear
[08:17] <Trixisity> while installing Java jre I get this message, ot@Italjet:/home/tristan # sudo chown -R root:root /usr/java/jrel.5.0_01/
[08:17] <Trixisity> chown: failed to get attributes of `/usr/java/jrel.5.0_01/':
[08:17] <Trixisity> what's that?
[08:18] <MidnightDevil> hi! :)
[08:18] <^thehatsrule^> lo
[08:19] <MidnightDevil> how do i install nvidia using apt-get ?
[08:19] <^thehatsrule^> theres docs
[08:19] <DoppelGanger> tee hee hee
[08:20] <^thehatsrule^> ahem... DoppelGanger from RO?
[08:20] <mdz> MidnightDevil: http://www.ubuntu.com/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:20] <mdz> two easy steps
[08:20] <^thehatsrule^> yea that one ;p
[08:21] <geneo93> need a little help with update
[08:21] <geneo93> keeps hanging on kde stuff
[08:22] <MidnightDevil> thanx mdz
[08:22] <Absenth> geneo93, did you add the universe and multiverse stuff to your sources.list
[08:22] <geneo93> oh yes
[08:23] <Absenth> hmmmm.....
[08:23] <alican> can I install nvidia-glx in init5 ??
[08:23] <geneo93> i can paste first few lines
[08:23] <odie5533> How do I create a link to a folder?
[08:24] <Absenth> odie5533, ln -s source dest
[08:24] <geneo93> allready did the -ff install
[08:24] <geneo93> and the dpkg -- reconfig
[08:24] <odie5533> ty
[08:25] <geneo93> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these.
[08:25] <geneo93> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:25] <geneo93>   kaddressbook: Depends: libkcal2a (>= 4:3.4.0) but it is not installed
[08:25] <Absenth> odie5533, also you can right click, and "make link"
[08:25] <Yomic> Can someone help me manually configure a USB connected WiFi device?
[08:25] <odie5533> ah
[08:25] <zenwhen> what model
[08:26] <DarthFrog> Yomic: Perhaps.  Is it detected?
[08:26] <Yomic> Yes, but it is unknown
[08:26] <Yomic> (And more than likely not supported.
[08:26] <Yomic> )*
[08:26] <DarthFrog> Yomic: Does it get a network interface?  what does ifconfig tell you?
[08:26] <Absenth> geneo93, I'm sure someone here can help, unfortunatly I'm not that someone.
[08:26] <Glin|Jol> anyone here know how to get mplayer to not have the window border at the top when playig movies?
[08:26] <punkrockguy318> does ubuntu support wireless mice and keyboards? how easy would the installation of one be?
[08:27] <Yomic> But I have the drivers; I don't know where they go though.
[08:27] <Glin|Jol> this is not the gui version
[08:27] <DarthFrog> Yomic: What are the drivers?
[08:27] <Yomic> I have no connection with that PC.
[08:27] <jk> punkrockguy318: mostly 'just works [tm] '
[08:27] <Yomic> Different .CAB and .bin files
[08:27] <punkrockguy318> jk, awesome, so i just plug them in and i'm good to go?
[08:27] <jk> punkrockguy318: yup
[08:27] <DarthFrog> Yomic: Those are Windows files.
[08:28] <Yomic> I know.
[08:28] <Yomic> I only have access to the Windows drivers.
[08:28] <DarthFrog> Yomic: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/howto/ndiswrapper
[08:28] <Absenth> punkrockguy318, I'm running a wireless Logitech MX1000, it worked for basic wheel mouse functionality outta the gate.
[08:28] <Fleebailey33> gtg
[08:28] <Absenth> punkrockguy318, I configured the forward and back keys with (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/IntellimouseMousemanBackForwardButtons)
[08:29] <Yomic> Yes, I have an .inf file.
[08:29] <punkrockguy318> that's great!
[08:29] <Absenth> punkrockguy318, and for multimedia keys on the keyboard (ie vol, mute, etc) I found a howto somewhere, it was super simple.
[08:29] <punkrockguy318> ubuntulinux has the nicest hardware detection i've seen in any distro
[08:29] <Absenth> punkrockguy318, I'll see if I can find that for you as well.
[08:29] <punkrockguy318> Absenth, yeah, i set them up on my friends machine.. it's just in system->preference->keyboard shortcuts
[08:30] <Absenth> punkrockguy318, that's the one :)
[08:30] <Yomic> Crap, I don't have internet connection so I cannot download the ndiswrapper >_<
[08:30] <Absenth> punkrockguy318, the only key that doesn't work on my mouse is the task switching button, which is useless as hell anyway :)
[08:30] <sal002> Do I need the initrd to boot?
[08:30] <punkrockguy318> hey
[08:30] <Absenth> punkrockguy318, oh, and the right/left wheel movement.
[08:31] <DarthFrog> Yomic: It might be already installed.
[08:31] <punkrockguy318> Absenth, did that work oob?
[08:31] <Yomic> I hope.
[08:31] <rwabel_> hi
[08:31] <Yomic> I'm on Warty, fresh from the CD
[08:31] <Absenth> punkrockguy318, doesn't work at all right now.  oob was up down, right, left click, and mvoement.
[08:31] <Absenth> punkrockguy318, the link I posted, got my browser forward and backward working.
[08:32] <rwabel_> I still have problems with locales with special characters. whenever I'm in X mode (gnome, kde, xfce etc) special characters are displayed wrong (invalid encoding). anyone has an idea?
[08:32] <Absenth> punkrockguy318, the rest of the functions of my mouse I didn't use in winderz anyway so it's not a huge loss.
[08:33] <zenrox> ho do i get this line to match up for whare that is in ubuntu  if ( -e "${procloc}/sys/dev/sensors" && file_executable("sensors") == 1) {
[08:33] <tsume> Absenth: what is winderz?
[08:33] <tck> anyone got xmms working with hoary ?
[08:33] <zenrox> casue that dont exist
[08:33] <tsume> tck: works fine
[08:33] <zenrox> and i do have sensors and gkrellm displays them
[08:33] <tck> tsume, no matter what i try, wont work, any suggestions
[08:33] <tsume> tck: if you installed gnome, you most likely are using esd, download xmms-esd
[08:33] <Absenth> tsume, Winderz aka most operating systems out of redmond WA
[08:34] <tck> i think im using alsa
[08:34] <tsume> Absenth: I don't understand child talk
[08:34] <tck> hmm i'll check
[08:34] <DarthFrog> tsume: Windows.
[08:34] <tsume> Absenth: please use correct words
[08:34] <tsume> DarthFrog: ohh, Windows.
[08:34] <tsume> Absenth: why didn't you say so?
[08:34] <DarthFrog> tsume: Absenth was using slang.  Self-invented slang. :-)
[08:34] <Absenth> tsume, I'm a redneck. I did say so.
[08:34] <bassman> bonsoir  tous
[08:35] <DarthFrog> bassman: Bon matin.
[08:35] <bassman> :)
[08:35] <Tilos> Is there something akin to http://www.gentoo-portage.com for Ubuntu?
[08:35] <tizen> bonne apres-midi
[08:35] <tizen> lol
[08:35] <bassman> j'aurais voulu un renseignement sur ubuntu
[08:35] <bassman> je ne sais pas comment crer mon mdp root
[08:35] <larsrohdin> Hi, if I download a certain program, how do i know which command to use to start it?
[08:35] <DarthFrog> bassman: Nous parlons anglais ici.
[08:35] <rwabel_> bassman: pour francais il faut aller sur ubuntu-fr
[08:36] <bassman> very nice sorry for my bad english :)
[08:36] <ren0> Hi. I notice when I am using gaim all my freinds have little pictures in their window. Is there a way for me to set this up in gaim. I just don't seem to find it.
[08:36] <tsume> the french have a titanium version of windows on the net, cute
[08:36] <tsume> its full of warez
[08:36] <tsume> WindowsXP Pro Titanium... heh
[08:36] <DarthFrog> bassman:  Don't worry about it. It's better than my french! :-)
[08:36] <tsume> This is amusing
[08:37] <tsume> Bienvenue!
[08:37] <Absenth> is there a howto to set up dual head in ubuntu hoary?
[08:37] <^thehatsrule^> njan?
[08:37] <motuline> Can I re-size my swap partition? Ubuntu made Swap what is only 486mb :o
[08:37] <Absenth> or whatever it'
[08:37] <tsume> Absenth: that is based on your vid card and X, not the distrop
[08:37] <tsume> *distro
[08:37] <tizen> ren0: Yup. Ctrl-A, then Modify on your MSN account and set up the buddy icon thing
[08:37] <bassman> nice to see you again see you later bye !!!!:)
[08:37] <DarthFrog> motuline: How much RAM do you have?
[08:38] <motuline> 512mb
[08:38] <Absenth> tsume, even if I'm running an agp and a seperate pci video card?
[08:38] <motuline> why?
[08:38] <DarthFrog> motuline: That really should be enough swap.
[08:38] <thoreauputic> motuline: that should be plenty of swap
[08:38] <tsume> Absenth: its linux + X then
[08:38] <DarthFrog> motuline: The days of swap = 2x RAM are over.
[08:38] <ren0> thanks tizen. I'll give it a try
[08:38] <tsume> Absenth: you can find the information anywhere for linu
[08:38] <tsume> linux
[08:38] <motuline> ok :).. Im used to 1028mb of swap space.. other distros have biger swap bases
[08:39] <tsume> Absenth: you can set up Xinemina or have a virt on each screen
[08:39] <snk00sj-> thanks man ! my nvidia drivers work !
[08:39] <snk00sj-> 53194 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10662.400 FPS
[08:39] <snk00sj-> awesome, you all rock !
[08:39] <Absenth> tsume, danke.
[08:39] <motuline> I get 1800fps..
[08:39] <tsume> snk00sj-: what card is that? and is that at full screen?
[08:40] <thoreauputic> motuline: unless you're running some kind of badass server with huge memory demands :) But then you'd have more RAM anyway ;)
[08:40] <Spooks> Beauty, firefox r the updated
[08:40] <DarthFrog> Spooks: Glad to hear it worked for you.
[08:40] <tsume> snk00sj-: what card? :P
[08:40] <Spooks> Thanks again
[08:40] <Spooks>  :)
[08:40] <Absenth> 22875 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4575.000 FPS
[08:40] <DarthFrog> Spooks: And better yet, you learned how to do it yourself.
[08:40] <sal002> When booting the livecd can I pass root=[my ubuntu root]  and use the kernel from the cd to boot using my system filesystem?
[08:40] <Spooks> Kind of
[08:41] <tsume> Absenth: what card do you have?
[08:41] <tck> tsume, no xmms-esd
[08:41] <DarthFrog> sal002: Probably.
[08:41] <Absenth> tsume, 5900 ultra 128m
[08:41] <tsume> oo
[08:41] <tck> what sound support does gnome start with
[08:41] <snk00sj-> tsume 6800 GT Pro :)
[08:41] <tck> there's , alsa, esd, oss, arts
[08:41] <tsume> tck: esd
[08:41] <^thehatsrule^> esd?
[08:41] <^thehatsrule^> oh
[08:41] <codyman> DarthFrog: I got my amd64 broadcom wifi connection up and running.. the only thing is that every time i reboot i have to retype in my WEP key.. any ideas on how I can automate that?
[08:41] <sal002> Because my initrd for -5 kernel is missing.  I tried using the -3 kernel and all hell broke loose
[08:41] <tck> how come alsa starts up on mine then
[08:41] <tsume> tck: you need the esd driver for xmms, or killall the sound drivers
[08:42] <tsume> tck: if you are running artsd, then you need the xmms-artsd driver
[08:42] <tsume> *xmms-arts
[08:42] <ermo> mjr, does dri work with mergedfb?
[08:42] <thoreauputic> tck: esd talks to alsa ;)
[08:42] <sal002> Is there a way to regenerate the initrd?
[08:42] <UdeS-ppc> what's the command hdparm for?
[08:42] <tck> ah ok
[08:42] <codyman> whats a quick way to reset sound?  rhythmbox all the sudden says my speakers are busy
[08:42] <DarthFrog> codyman: Yeah.  In /etc/network-something-or-other is the config file for that interface.  Put the info in there.
[08:42] <codyman> thanks
[08:42] <Brainache> hey, im a newbie, and im trying to compile a package.  I keep running into things that are missing in the Configure stage, and im not sure if im missing something, or do i just have to add the bits as i find the things missing from the configure log?
[08:42] <tck> theres not xmms-esd in my synaptic by the way
[08:43] <tck> s/not/no
[08:43] <thoreauputic> Brainache: what are you trying to compile? and do you have a ll the dev packages?
[08:43] <djp> anyone here help me out with a cron message?
[08:44] <djp> No terminal found for user interaction. All questions will abort the program.
[08:44] <thoreauputic> Brainache: 99% of the time, the missing packages are the dev (development) packages
[08:44] <Brainache> oh, ok
[08:44] <motuline> Any Idea.. if I run fglrxconfig and write XF86Config-4.. X won't work.. and other thing is that X won't work if I change identifier: ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon 9600 XT (RV350 AR) instead of "Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) SG86C202"
[08:44] <Brainache> do i jsut search synaptic for dev packages and install them all?
[08:45] <thoreauputic> Brainache: that's one way, yes
[08:45] <Brainache> ok
[08:45] <snk00sj-> ATI drivers suck :)
[08:45] <JDahl> brainache, normally you should be able to see from compiler or linker error what's missing
[08:45] <sn0wman> snk00sj-, lol, yep.
[08:45] <bung__> snk00sj-: so does your face
[08:45] <thoreauputic> Brainache: assuming the thing you are compiling isn't available in the repos
[08:45] <Absenth> snk00sj-, on linux anyway.....  although I got them working once.
[08:45] <DarthFrog> snk00sj-: I'm Canadian and ATI is a Canadian company.  I won't be buying their products again.
[08:46] <Brainache> yeah. This time it wants me to re-write something.  I'll cp the log file
[08:46] <DarthFrog> bung__: No personal abuse, please.
[08:46] <larsrohdin> is there a problem with gedit in hoary? Because since i updated, i can't get gedit to work...
[08:46] <tsume> tck: whit
[08:46] <tsume> *wait
[08:46] <bung__> DarthFrog: sorry, reflex
[08:46] <tsume> tck: it already has the esd support
[08:46] <DarthFrog> bung__: :-)
[08:46] <tsume> tck: open config
[08:46] <tsume> switch the audio driver to eSound
[08:46] <tck> from within xmms ?
[08:46] <tsume> yes
[08:47] <bung__> seriously though I don't get why people love nvidia quite so much
[08:47] <geneo91> still need some HELP
[08:47] <tck> hang on
[08:47] <thoreauputic> bung__: lesser of two evils on linux
[08:47] <DarthFrog> codyman: The file is /etc/network/interfaces.
[08:47] <Brainache> checking for gtk+-2.0 glib-2.0 gobject-2.0 libxml-2.0... Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[08:47] <Brainache> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc'
[08:47] <Brainache> to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
[08:47] <Brainache> No package 'gtk+-2.0' found
[08:47] <Brainache> configure: error: Library requirements (gtk+-2.0 glib-2.0 gobject-2.0 libxml-2.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.
[08:47] <tsume> bung__: because the drivers are the best out there
[08:47] <Absenth> bung__ I have no love for nvidia either.  I'd rather have an X800 over the 6800 ultra, but the drivers are a LOT easier on the nvidia side of the fence.