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[08:55] <mparillo> Another point release of Bionic coming? Test cases: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/405/builds
[08:57] <RikMills> mparillo: 18.04.3 should have been out yesterday, but is delayed. probably until next thursday. not sure at the moment if build images will be for rc testing, as could still be kernel issues to sort
[08:58] <mparillo> Thanks. I will try to listen for the call for testers.
[12:16] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
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[16:07] <RikMills> mparillo: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2019-August/004787.html
[16:10] <mparillo> Thank you. Alas, next week will be more hectic than this week.
 so someone was complaining about the highlight windows of the taskbar and once I realized what they were referring to  . . . I agree and yuck
 (Document) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/plIjFEaq/file_16924.mkv
 just upgraded to Eoan .. but why this package (plasma-workspace-wallpapers 5.16.4+p19.10+git20190730.2017-0) no longer required ?
[20:41] <valorie> maybe new set replaces old set?
 the plasma-workplace include the wallpaper?
 for cleaning the packages that no longer required


[01:12] <edword> i updated kernel
[01:14] <edword> then my uca202 audio cant use
[01:14] <edword> then my uca202 audio cant useable
[01:15] <edword> behringer uca202
[01:15] <edword> no sound
[01:15] <edword> silent
[01:16] <edword> i have probleme
[01:16] <edword> help me
[01:46] <mirf> poor edword
[02:25] <HiMtNdRiFtEr> having some problems with being able to record vocals and music in ubuntu studio
[14:03] <Guest16938> hallo
[14:03] <Guest16938> ich habe eine frage zu  kdenlive
[14:05] <Guest16938> kdenlive not stabilization in selection
[14:05] <Guest16938> I have a question about kdenlive


[02:54] <valorie> jphilips: done
[02:55] <jphilips> valorie: thanks
[02:56] <valorie> sorry for the delay -- today is the last day to review gsoc proposals; last chance to help the students improve
[02:57] <valorie> I'll be around and available more after the deadline tomorrow
[03:02] <jphilips> no problems :D
[03:02] <jphilips> hope some good candidates arrived
[03:17] <valorie> I think so, but so cross-eyed at this point I can't say
[03:17] <valorie> it's in the hands of mentors now to decide which students they want to work with
[04:49] <jphilips> you can send a heads up the people managing the kde community twitter account, that they likely should stick with a single hashtag for the video contest tweets, as they are all over the place
[04:49] <jphilips> #Plasma2020 - https://twitter.com/kdecommunity/status/1243831579430060032
[04:49] <jphilips> #Apps2020 - https://twitter.com/kdecommunity/status/1244534281822769152
[04:50] <jphilips> #Promo2020 - https://twitter.com/kdecommunity/status/1243489567136780288
[05:07] <valorie> you can join promo and say so, although now that it's over, there likely will not be more tweets
[05:08] <valorie> it's #kde-promo and there is a telegram chan that it is bridged to
[05:09] <valorie> also there was two contests as I recall -- one for plasma, one for apps
[05:09] <valorie> I assume that last one was a wrap-up
[05:10] <valorie> anyway not really on-topic here
[05:34] <jphilips> was just passing it along as i saw it
[05:35] <jphilips> @ahoneybun: any luck with the fixes for the website
 @jphilips, I did some of them though I haven't touched the site since then.
[22:24] <valorie> how's it going down in Denver, @ahoneybun
 It's locked down a lot.
[22:28] <valorie> well, for sure


[02:14] <gnomefreak> @schedule new_york
[02:14] <ubotu> Schedule for America/New_York: 23 May 16:00: Edubuntu | 24 May 16:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 25 May 08:00: MOTU | 27 May 10:00: LoCo Team | 29 May 11:00: Kernel Team | 29 May 17:00: Community Council
[02:33] <gnomefreak> im gonna let this run over night and see if i get the beep again it hasnt beeped since i loged in 15-25 minutes ago.
[09:12] <Admiral_Chicago> seems as if my router is now online...should be able to *stay* online too after all my stuggling with it
[09:37] <gnomefreak> congrats :) sorry to hear about your router issues
[09:46] <gnomefreak> asac: if your up, did you find anyone to build OO.o?
[10:03] <gnomefreak> ok got to stop uploading for now.
[11:52] <asac> ola
[11:52] <asac> gnomefreak: anything urgent
[11:52] <asac> ?
[11:53] <asac> like ... everything crashes in dapper repo :)
[11:53] <asac> or even worse ... in gutsy
[11:53] <gnomefreak> nope just building my ass off
[11:53] <gnomefreak> just wanted to know if you found someone for OO.o
[11:53] <gnomefreak> oh and do i build the alternates? the ones that start with a | in rdepends
[12:00] <asac> gnomefreak: we had a netsplit
[12:00] <asac> if you didn't realize
[12:00] <asac> gnomefreak: you there?
[12:01] <asac> if you hear me: we should rebuild everything that has build-depends on firefox-dev libnss3-dev and libnspr4-dev
[12:01] <asac> for packages that just have depends on firefox (but no build-depends on firefox-dev or that alike) we should test them thoroughly
[12:01] <gnomefreak> yep here
[12:01] <asac> and maybe look at code to verify that things are ok
[12:01] <asac> (dunno if any such package exists actually)
[12:02] <asac> gnomefreak: for locale packages we should add the ones from feisty
[12:02] <asac> e.g. replace the current ones with what we have in feisty
[12:02] <asac> but exclude locales that have not been previously been in dapper
[12:02] <gnomefreak> ok
[12:02] <asac> if you come to those (which are really important) :) ... let me know
[12:02] <gnomefreak> k just take dappers locales from feisty and build
[12:02] <asac> how far did you get so far?
[12:03] <asac> what applications are there?
[12:03] <gnomefreak> i rocking
[12:03] <gnomefreak> 60+
[12:03] <asac> gnomefreak: yes ... please make the version of the locale packages smaller then the ones in feisty
[12:03] <gnomefreak> well change that
[12:03] <asac> so people will still get an upgrade
[12:03] <asac> 60+ ?
[12:03] <asac> apps?
[12:03] <asac> do you have a list?
[12:03] <gnomefreak> im done with all of libnss libnspr
[12:04] <asac> are they all online already
[12:04] <asac> ?
[12:04] <gnomefreak> yeah if you give me a few minutes ill type them up
[12:04] <gnomefreak> yes online ready to use
[12:04] <asac> no ... i will just look in repo then
[12:04] <asac> you have url?
[12:04] <gnomefreak> yeah one sec
[12:04] <asac> at hand ;)
[12:05] <gnomefreak> http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/mozilla-testing/dists/dapper/main/
[12:05] <gnomefreak> im uploading gnome-app-install and flash atm
[12:06] <asac> you rock :)
[12:06] <gnomefreak> :)
[12:06] <asac> sources all up as well?
[12:07] <gnomefreak> i had very bad day yesterday so im trying to make up for it :)
[12:07] <gnomefreak> yes
[12:07] <gnomefreak> i have maybe 12 more to build total. i have a list of what is left so i dont have to check rdepends all the time
[12:14] <asac> fine
[12:14] <asac> when you are done i will respin everything :)
[12:17] <gnomefreak> lol
[12:17] <gnomefreak> thats alot of work btw ;
[12:17] <gnomefreak> )
[12:19] <asac> i hope i find a way to auto-respin
[12:23] <gnomefreak> ok taking a break now
[12:30] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmm
[12:31] <gnomefreak> asac: you know anything about gecko-sharp?
[12:32] <gnomefreak> last changelog entry is gecko-sharp (0.6-3ubuntu3) breezy; urgency=low
[12:37] <asac> dunno ... probably a c-sharp binding to gecko mozembed
[12:37] <asac> needs a rebuild I guess
[12:38] <asac> and some testcase to verify that it actually works
[12:38] <asac> are there examples in that package?
[12:38] <asac> gnomefreak: ^^^ ?
[12:38] <gnomefreak> it is and it does
[12:38] <gnomefreak> it was autosynced
[12:39] <gnomefreak> thats why no changelog for dapper
[12:39] <asac> sure
[12:39] <asac> so does it build?
[12:39] <asac> are there examples you can test?
[12:39] <gnomefreak> not sure yet but everything looks good so far
[12:39] <gnomefreak> examples?
[12:40] <gnomefreak> im grabbing build-deps atm for it
[12:44] <SmokeyD> hey people, just for fun I tried to apt-get -b source thunderbird from the preview archive on amd64. I get the known bug that in order to build thunderbird I need libnspr4-dev which conflicts with libnspr4 (provided by firefox). So I can't install libnspr4-dev and therefore not compile thunderbird without unintalling firefox and most gnome packages
[12:44] <SmokeyD> the libnspr4-dev conflict is a known bug: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xulrunner/+bug/57161
[12:44] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 57161 in xulrunner "Impossible to install libsmjs-dev with firefox present" [High,Confirmed]
[12:45] <gnomefreak> SmokeyD: its not built using xulrunner yet
[12:45] <gnomefreak> SmokeyD: you need the -dev packages to build anything. after its built install the other ones back
[12:45] <SmokeyD> ok, yeah that is a solution
[12:45] <gnomefreak> there is nothing we can do with that yet
[12:45] <SmokeyD> not the best one but it will work :)
[12:47] <gnomefreak> SmokeyD: that is why we built it for you
[12:47] <SmokeyD> :) yeah I know
[12:47] <gnomefreak> so we are the only ones that have to deal with that atm
[12:47] <SmokeyD> I just like playing around
[12:47] <SmokeyD> :)
[12:47] <SmokeyD> But that is my problem, I know
[12:48] <SmokeyD> once I have something in my head, I won't stop till I have it ;)
[12:51] <asac> SmokeyD: thunderbird is not up to date for amd64 i guess
[12:51] <asac> i wanted to build it today :)
[12:51] <SmokeyD> :)
[12:51] <asac> e.g. that is if you are on feisty
[12:51] <SmokeyD> yep
[12:53] <gnomefreak> asac: in case i forgot trunk fails to build. last one that built was 20070430 (incase you find time)
[12:56] <asac> good ... do we have trunk in gutsy as well? or just in feisty for now?
[12:56] <asac> gnomefreak: not so good of course ... but thanks for the reminder :)
[12:58] <gnomefreak> only feisty
[12:58] <gnomefreak> once we find out what is wrong (something with gfx(or whatever its called)
[01:01] <gnomefreak> i can make a gutsy repo and send it there for you to build or figure that out when we get there. my most important thing is trying to finish this backports stuff. i was reversed i had finished 12 not 12 left. wont know how many left until i figure out what builds what
[01:09] <asac> gnomefreak: ok ... gutsy trunk build can wait
[01:09] <asac> i will prepare a -preview package with latest 3.0 alpha release as soon as alpha5 is out
[01:11] <gnomefreak> k
[01:24] <gnomefreak> asac: your not using dapper repo yet right?
[01:25] <asac> i have no x86 :)
[01:26] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[02:19] <gnomefreak> lots and lots of building ;)
[02:22] <asac> right ... thats the way it should be
[02:22] <asac> no ooo volunteer yes
[02:22] <gnomefreak> kind of fun
[02:47] <gnomefreak> when i finish if we still dont have a volunteer ill do it but it will just take time (if it really is that big)
[02:53] <asac> if you have done everything else ... give it a spin
[02:53] <asac> and lets pray :)
[02:54] <asac> gnomefreak: maybe you can try to catch volunteers? maybe you have more luck :)
[02:54] <gnomefreak> ill try sometime today
[02:55] <asac> :)
[03:27] <SmokeyD> hey guys. I succeeded in compiling TB2 on amd64 in feisty
[03:27] <SmokeyD> :)
[03:29] <gnomefreak> SmokeyD: if it was broke we wouldnt have uploaded it ;)
[03:29] <SmokeyD> :)
[03:30] <SmokeyD> that's true. :D I'm just glad it worked
[03:30] <gnomefreak> is that your first one?
[03:30] <SmokeyD> well, not mu first compiled program, but the first one with such a devel status and from apt source files
[03:31] <SmokeyD> I did ./configure make make-install tons of times
[03:31] <gnomefreak> ah ok congrats than
[03:31] <SmokeyD> :)
[03:33] <gnomefreak> anyone in here feeling brave?
[03:37] <gnomefreak> vlc was a big one but i think that is about it for the long builds, maybe locales
[03:48] <gnomefreak> caller ID applet for ubuntu would really really come in handy today
[04:23] <gnomefreak> java sucks
[04:27] <gnomefreak> @schedule new_york
[04:27] <ubotu> Schedule for America/New_York: 23 May 16:00: Edubuntu | 24 May 16:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 25 May 08:00: MOTU | 27 May 10:00: LoCo Team | 29 May 11:00: Kernel Team | 29 May 17:00: Community Council
[04:30] <gnomefreak> running last build for a a few hours to get caught up
[04:53] <SmokeyD> hey people, when releasing TB2 for amd64, is it possible to also add the lightning extension?
[04:54] <SmokeyD> it is only available for Linux x86 not amd64
[05:23] <asac> SmokeyD: i am working on lightning
[05:23] <asac> is a bit tricky to do it right
[05:23] <asac> the way upstream builds it is just a mess
[05:23] <asac> and should only be a last resort in case we cannot make it better
[06:38] <Admiral_Chicago> connection is fixed now...
[06:38] <Admiral_Chicago> great
[06:38] <Admiral_Chicago> time to get ready for me day...
[06:47] <gnomefreak> ok im back working
[06:47] <gnomefreak> we really need one package that builds all firefox extenstions :(
[06:48] <gnomefreak> asac: is that feasible or way too much to do?
[06:55] <asac> you understood wrong
[06:55] <asac> we need to build lightning from sunbird sources
[06:58] <asac> not all extensions
[06:58] <gnomefreak> no i mean for what im working on
[06:59] <asac> what firefox extensions do you see?
[06:59] <gnomefreak> there are maybe 9 mozilla-* packages like mozilla-nukeimage mozilla-tabextenstion
[06:59] <asac> can you give me a complete list .... somewhere in wiki at best ... i can add comments then
[07:00] <asac> gnomefreak: if they are not arch dependent you should just try if they still work
[07:00] <asac> they might work
[07:00] <asac> if they don't then we need to upgrade them
[07:00] <asac> to new upstream
[07:01] <asac> gnomefreak: if you come up with a complete list, then i can comment on them ... e.g. what to do
[07:01] <gnomefreak> ill do that tomorrow maybe. i have to look at gutsy to better give you a list
[07:01] <gnomefreak> k
[07:01] <asac> you wanna do that? ... otherwise, just go ahead and build other apps
[07:01] <gnomefreak> im still building them as is to get it done
[07:02] <asac> yes... please don't build extensions
[07:02] <asac> makes not much sense
[07:02] <gnomefreak> they dont take long at all to build thats one of the reasons i think it would be better atleast for gutsy and newer to package them together if we can. build once upload once
[07:02] <gnomefreak> have to
[07:03] <asac> why?
[07:03] <gnomefreak> part of the rdepends
[07:03] <asac> yes ... but i say: it doesn't matter
[07:03] <asac> i don't think there are any "native" extensions
[07:03] <asac> the others either work or don't
[07:03] <asac> a respin does not help a thing
[07:04] <gnomefreak> than ill stop at as many as i have done already and go on to locales or the otehr 2 package si have
[07:04] <asac> locales need an update
[07:04] <asac> e.g. you need to import them from feisty
[07:04] <gnomefreak> they will today
[07:04] <asac> probably you should do the same for extensions
[07:04] <asac> now that you say it :)
[07:05] <gnomefreak> ill take the xpis from feisty put them inplace of dappers and spin
[07:05] <asac> gnomefreak: good: pull extensions and locales from feisty
[07:05] <asac> nothing else
[07:05] <asac> ... or edgy
[07:05] <asac> your choice
[07:05] <asac> xpis from feisty?
[07:05] <asac> just get the package ... adjust version and spin
[07:05] <asac> then done
[07:05] <gnomefreak> yes the locales are xpi arnt they?
[07:05] <gnomefreak> oh
[07:05] <asac> yes and no ... they are already packaged in feisty
[07:05] <asac> you just need to grab them
[07:06] <gnomefreak> use feistys package with different version
[07:06] <asac> yes
[07:06] <asac> make it smaller than feisties version
[07:06] <gnomefreak> ill look at them
[07:07] <gnomefreak> i have to make them smaller than edgys version too
[07:08] <gnomefreak> i use dappers version and just add the .ffox2.0mt1 to it?
[07:09] <asac> no .... add ~.ffox2.0mt1
[07:09] <asac> to feisty version
[07:09] <asac> :-D
[07:10] <gnomefreak> oh ok :)
[07:10] <asac> gnomefreak: ~ is the magic trick that makes a version exactly smaller
[07:10] <asac> so use feisty and append with preceeding ~
[07:10] <gnomefreak> k
[07:11] <gnomefreak> and change control a bit to use the right versions of apps/libs and build
[07:11] <asac> he?
[07:11] <asac> there are not much build-depends
[07:12] <asac> i think you don't need to touch anything for extensions and locales
[07:12] <asac> if there is a native extension ... maybe you need
[07:12] <asac> but i don't think there is any
[07:12] <gnomefreak> i havent looked yet waiting for uploads to finish before i open another term. or file viewer
[08:28] <gnomefreak> asac: does mozilla-firefox-locale-tr-tr replace mozilla-firefox-locale-tr
[08:29] <asac> transitional package should be available if it does
[08:29] <gnomefreak> (Feisty)gnomefreak@Gutsy:~$ show mozilla-firefox-locale-tr
[08:29] <gnomefreak> W: Unable to locate package mozilla-firefox-locale-tr
[08:29] <gnomefreak> E: No packages found
[08:30] <gnomefreak> the tr-tr is mozilla-firefox-locales-all in feisty
[08:33] <asac> gnomefreak: yes ... just use that package
[08:42] <gnomefreak> k
[08:55] <gnomefreak> firefox
[08:55] <gnomefreak> Reverse Depends:
[08:55] <gnomefreak>  |openoffice.org
[08:55] <gnomefreak>  |mozilla-checky
[08:55] <gnomefreak>   mozilla-bonobo
[08:55] <gnomefreak> thats all i got left ;)
[08:56] <gnomefreak> im uploading locales now
[09:12] <gnomefreak> hmmmm seems mozilla-checky isnt in feisty
[10:00] <gnomefreak> ok everything is uploaded and built. now openoffice (start in next 30-60 minutes on it)
[10:23] <asac> gnomefreak: well done
[10:24] <gnomefreak> ty :)
[10:24] <asac> mozilla-bonobo?
[10:24] <asac> what did you do about that?
[10:24] <gnomefreak> i have about 3 hours on download for oo.o and than that will start
[10:25] <gnomefreak> i built it from dappers since the build-deps were not in dapper but were in feisty
[10:25] <asac> sure ... build ooo from dapper ... as well as bonbo
[10:25] <gnomefreak> yep
[10:38] <gnomefreak> has anyone made a post on the forums about the testing packages/repos
[11:07] <JenFraggle_> hello, i'm new here
[11:11] <Admiral_Chicago> hey there
[11:11] <Admiral_Chicago> JenFraggle_: i seem to know that name...firefox clue files+?
[11:11] <JenFraggle_> yes, working through the email
[11:11] <Admiral_Chicago> great!
[11:12] <Admiral_Chicago> brb, /me is blogging
[11:12] <JenFraggle_> ok
[11:19] <Admiral_Chicago> back..
[11:20] <JenFraggle_> cool
[11:20] <Admiral_Chicago> do you have the bazaar branch pulled?
[11:20] <Admiral_Chicago> err checked out that is
[11:21] <JenFraggle_> I've installed bughelper, is that the same thing?
[11:23] <JenFraggle_> and bazaar
[11:23] <Admiral_Chicago> no.
[11:23] <Admiral_Chicago> well yes and no.
[11:24] <Admiral_Chicago> bughelper is the tool that uses clue files
[11:25] <Admiral_Chicago> clue files are under active development in a bazaar branch
[11:25] <Admiral_Chicago> bazaar is a tool that we use to share code and make changes in an intelligent manner
[11:27] <Admiral_Chicago> JenFraggle_: bughelper will not run without clue files associated with the package
[11:28] <JenFraggle_> I'm just trying to find the webpage I used to do it and see what that says
[11:29] <Admiral_Chicago> afai
[11:29] <Admiral_Chicago> afaik*
[11:29] <Admiral_Chicago> JenFraggle_: give me a second, i'll pull it up for you
[11:30] <Admiral_Chicago> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugHelper/doc/writing-clue-files
[11:30] <Admiral_Chicago> look down to sharing clue files
[11:30] <Admiral_Chicago> and it'll be titled "get the latest copy of bughelper"
[11:32] <JenFraggle_> hmm, got an error message
[11:32] <JenFraggle_> it said permission denied
[11:32] <JenFraggle_> bzr: ERROR: Unable to connect to SSH host bazaar.launchpad.net; EOF during negotiation
[11:33] <Admiral_Chicago> JenFraggle_: give me a link to your LP page
[11:33] <Admiral_Chicago> you may need to do ssh-keygen and make an ssh key
[11:33] <JenFraggle_> https://launchpad.net/~rj-ockwell
[11:33] <Admiral_Chicago> then take ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub and paste it as an sshkey
[11:35] <Admiral_Chicago> look on your page for update SSH keys.
[11:35] <Admiral_Chicago> JenFraggle_: do you have all that, or do you need help?
[11:36] <JenFraggle_> think I've done that now
[11:36] <Admiral_Chicago> bzr checkout<EMAIL_ADDRESS>bughelper-data
[11:36] <JenFraggle_> It says SSH key added
[11:36] <Admiral_Chicago> that'll be the full command if you think you have it
[11:36] <Admiral_Chicago> great
[11:37] <JenFraggle_> same message again, does it take time to be updated?
[11:37] <Admiral_Chicago> yes i think so
[11:38] <Admiral_Chicago> you didn't do sudo ssh-keygen did you?
[11:39] <JenFraggle_> no, just ssh-keygen
[11:39] <Admiral_Chicago> good
[11:39] <JenFraggle_> still isn't working
[11:40] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, okay give me a second
[11:41] <Admiral_Chicago> 16:40 < nixternal> I would give it 15 minutes...as it needs to propagate down to bazaar
[11:41] <JenFraggle_> ok
[11:45] <Admiral_Chicago> why don't you try it again
[11:45] <Admiral_Chicago> btw, you may want to cd to a folder for development
[11:46] <Admiral_Chicago> something like "mkdir ~/Development/Bughelper && cd ~/Development/Bughelper"
[11:48] <JenFraggle_> still nothing
[11:53] <JenFraggle_> i'll try again tomorrow, it's nearly 11pm so I'm going to log off now
[11:54] <JenFraggle_> thanks for your help
[11:56] <Admiral_Chicago> np
[11:56] <Admiral_Chicago> thanks for your interest
[11:57] <Admiral_Chicago> havea good night.
[11:57] <JenFraggle_> and you
[12:11] <asac> gnomefreak: do packages like xubuntu-desktop really need a respin because ffox transition?
[12:11] <asac> idoubt they do
[12:12] <asac> if you are done building we should go through the package tomorrow and drop that are not necessary
[12:12] <asac> gnomefreak: cu tomorrow
[12:12] <asac> night
[12:13] <Admiral_Chicago> asac: sec...
[12:13] <Admiral_Chicago> what do you mean respin?
[12:16] <gnomefreak> asac: xubuntu-desktop edubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop all carry ffox so i figured they were needed. and you said do ALL :)
[12:16] <gnomefreak> night asac
[12:17] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: build
[12:17] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: we backported ffox for dapper, however i think its gonna stay in our dapper repo for a long while
[12:18] <Admiral_Chicago> which version
[12:18] <Admiral_Chicago> (s)
[12:19] <gnomefreak> <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:20] <gnomefreak> as is atm
[12:20] <gnomefreak> this may change depending when <IP_ADDRESS> is released or .5 since 1.5 branch is supported until august i think
[12:21] <gnomefreak> and there were some packages out of the 30 of them that i backported from feisty (most of the extensions and stuff
[12:22] <gnomefreak> took me 16+ hours to get all packages built except for OO.o i havent started that yet. and he thinks that is gonna be ~24 hours
[12:23] <Admiral_Chicago> thats a rought time
[12:23] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm glad Mozilla is going to start chosing a base to build packages on...
[12:24] <gnomefreak> well we have a few things to change on how they are set up but seems ffox now has it good


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[08:42] <mm8990> \hehp
[08:42] <mm8990> \help
[08:43] <mm8990> \爻賱丕賲


[00:26]  * nessita -> eod'd
[01:17] <adorilson> hi, dobey
[09:46] <duanedesign> *yawn*
[09:46] <duanedesign> morning all
[10:38] <ralsina> morning!
[10:38] <ralsina> So to speak.
[11:51]  * fagan break
[11:54] <duanedesign> rye: ping
[11:54] <rye> duanedesign, pong
[11:54] <duanedesign> hello rye !
[11:54] <rye> duanedesign, hello!
[11:55] <duanedesign> rye: umm. had a post i  have been putting off answering...because i have never downgrdaded an account so I am unsure  of the expected behaviour
[11:55] <rye> duanedesign, by downgrading you mean?
[11:56] <duanedesign> rye: so if you had a 20 GB pack and where downgrading to the free 2 GB account
[11:56] <rye> duanedesign, the data will stay intact, if your usage is more than 2Gb then it will simply prevent you from uploading more
[11:57] <duanedesign> ok, great. that is exactly what I needed to know
[11:57] <duanedesign> rye: thank you much
[12:25]  * mandel walking dog
[12:39] <karni> hi duanedesign
[12:39] <karni> hi rye
[12:41] <nessita> hello everyone!
[13:02] <duanedesign> o/
[13:04] <ralsina> hello nessita!
[13:04] <nessita> hola ralsina!
[13:04] <nessita> and duanedesign
[13:05] <duanedesign> :)
[13:07] <ralsina> nessita: I should have fixed your needsfixings at https://code.launchpad.net/~ralsina/ubuntuone-windows-installer/fix_800376/+merge/66194
[13:07] <nessita> yes you should have :-)
[13:10] <ralsina> nessita: hmmm... I may have? ;-)
[13:11] <ralsina> Anyway, I think I fixed them :-)
[13:11] <nessita> ralsina: you lost me. Shall I re-review? :-)
[13:11] <nessita> ok
[13:11] <ralsina> nessita: yes, please
[13:11]  * nessita on it
[13:15] <nessita> ralsina: last night I was tired, and I missed that the docstring for CalculateSize is not pep-257 compliant. Can you please fix?
[13:15] <ralsina>  nessita: sure. Sorry about that.
[13:16] <nessita> np :-)
[13:16] <nessita> can I have a second review for https://code.launchpad.net/~nataliabidart/ubuntuone-control-panel/isolate-create-folder/+merge/66220 ?
[13:17] <nessita> ralsina: same for docstring for  show_hide_offer
[13:17] <ralsina> nessita: yes, I am checking all docstrings now
[13:18] <nessita> is there a chance that there us a typo here? "The folders you have selected to sync take over your %s space. You can remove some folders or add some extra space"
[13:18] <nessita> this part sounds weird " take over your 2GB space"
[13:18] <ralsina> nessita: that is copied from the wireframe, I will file a bug to re-check them all with the final texts I have in a google doc
[13:19] <nessita> thanks!
[13:20] <alecu> hello, hello. Hola!
[13:20] <ralsina> hola alecu!
[13:21] <nessita> hi alecu!
[13:21] <nessita> alecu: so, I've had a talk with Chipacaa last night about reactors, and we decided that we should go with the socket scenario by using a fixed port without any further port handling until we have all the pieces working together
[13:22] <nessita> alecu: given what you said last night in your email, we should be start moving to a working solution today
[13:22] <nessita> alecu: does that make sense?
[13:22] <alecu> nessita, sounds reasonable.
[13:23] <ralsina> nessita: pep-257-ized
[13:23] <nessita> alecu: so, for now, no special port handling but a fixed (hardcoded) one, aiming to have the 3 main pieces (sso, sd, cp) working together
[13:23] <nessita> ralsina: re-looking
[13:24] <nessita> alecu: and finger cross, as well :-P (figuratively, we need to type)
[13:24] <alecu> nessita, jajajajajajajajaa
[13:26] <ralsina> nessita: pep257says we should leave a whole blank before the closing """ in multiline docstrings? No wonder I was not writing compliant ones :-(
[13:26] <ralsina> nessita: so they are still not compliant. Re-fixing :-(
[13:26] <nessita> ralsina: the extra blank line is optional, and I'm +1 to have it but some others don't like it
[13:27] <nessita> (optional only when closing, not between the summary and the description)
[13:27] <ralsina> nessita: Oh, ok, then they are compliant (/me double-checks)
[13:36] <nessita> ralsina: did you push the change to docstring in show_hide_offer?
[13:37] <nessita> LP still shows a non pep257
[13:38] <ralsina> I have """Show or hide the offer to buy space according\nto the size of the currently selected folders.\n"""
[13:38] <ralsina> It's too long for a oneliner but not enough for a summary/blank/description
[13:39] <nessita> ralsina: the docstring needs to be either the one liner, or the summary/blank/description
[13:39] <nessita> ralsina: that docstring, as is, is not pep257
[13:39] <ralsina> nessita: grmbl, ok, making it shorter
[13:42] <ralsina> nessita: pep257 suggests blank lines before docstrings for classes, and we are not doing that anywhere, I think.
[13:43] <nessita> ralsina: we should, one empty line before and one after
[13:44] <ralsina> nessita: I am looking at control panel, and it's not done, same in SSO. I will add them in the wizard, but we seem to need a pep257.py and a day off to fix them everywhere.
[13:45] <nessita> ralsina: +100
[13:45] <nessita> ralsina: where can I delete my credentials in w?
[13:46] <ralsina> nessita: open control panel, search for credentials, open it, look arund, click on the one you want to delete, click "remove"
[13:46] <mandel> nessita, ralsina: if you guys have time: https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntuone-client/fix-802738/+merge/66292
[13:46] <ralsina> mandel: on it!
[13:47]  * mandel super quick lunch
[13:48] <ralsina> nessita: just as personal opinion, I agree we need to follow a convention and this is the one we have, but the PEP257 style is really ugly :-(
[13:48] <nessita> ralsina: I accept that as you personal opinion :-). I, personally, love it.
[13:49] <ralsina> nessita: also, our module docstrings are really lacking by that standard.
[13:50] <ralsina> After things settle I may take a dy or two for docstring checks
[13:50] <nessita> ralsina: you mean at syntax level or content?
[13:50] <ralsina> nessita: content
[13:50] <nessita> True
[13:54] <nessita> standup in 5', crowd
[13:54] <nessita> mandel: I've had several issues trying to test your normpath branch, but none directly related to the code
[13:54] <nessita> mandel: still trying
[13:54] <nessita> (mostly VM issues)
[13:55] <mandel> nessita: ok, that I guess is good..
[13:55] <nessita> mandel: well, I haven't been able to run the code yet :-)
[13:56] <nessita> mandel: can you do a review, please?
[13:56] <mandel> nessita: ofcourse
[13:56] <nessita> https://code.launchpad.net/~nataliabidart/ubuntuone-control-panel/isolate-create-folder/+merge/66220
[13:56] <nessita> thanks!
[13:56] <mandel> np
[13:57]  * ralsina gets coffee, updates notes
[13:58] <mandel> nessita: in line 38, is_link does exist in platform, why does it complain?
[13:59] <nessita> mandel: it complains because the definition of is_link is not in that module (but imported to it)
[13:59] <mandel> ah, ok, pylint is stupid ;)
[14:00] <fagan> moi
[14:00] <thisfred> me
[14:00] <ralsina> me
[14:00] <nessita> me
[14:00] <nessita> alecu, mandel, dobey?
[14:00] <dobey> me
[14:00] <mandel> me
[14:01] <nessita> alecu ?
[14:01] <alecu> me
[14:01] <fagan> WORK IN PROGRESS
[14:01] <fagan> rst port of the tutorial pages
[14:01] <fagan> Blocked
[14:01] <fagan> * nope
[14:01] <fagan> go thisfred
[14:01] <thisfred> DONE: Bug #803062 Bug#762722 TODO: wrap Bug#762722 BLOCKED: no NEXT: ralsina
[14:01] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 803062 in ubuntuone-control-panel (and 2 other projects) "Unsurprisingly, sys.platform == "linux2" check no longer works on linux 3 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/803062
[14:01] <ralsina> DONE: mgmt call, windows call, administrivia, fixed things/worked on branches proposed for bug #800376 and bug #800381
[14:01] <ralsina> TODO: The other half of 800376, polish the workflow, ping design about assets, start fixing UI of SSO client
[14:01] <ralsina> BLOCKED: no
[14:01] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 800376 in ubuntuone-windows-installer "Add "syncing your computer to the cloud" page to the installer (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/800376
[14:01] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 800381 in ubuntuone-windows-installer "Add "sync now or later" page to the installer (affects: 1) (heat: 19)" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/800381
[14:01] <ralsina> next nessita
[14:01] <nessita> DONE: Bug #800161, Bug #802517, lots of reviews, meetings, attempts to do windows testing but VM is not being nice to me
[14:01] <nessita> TODO: Bug #803228, run syncdaemon a lot on w7 testing, mostly, mandel's branches
[14:01] <nessita> BLOCKED: the VM I'm using is, suddenly, very slow
[14:01] <nessita> NEXT: dobey
[14:01] <dobey> λ DONE: reviews, fixed distutils-extra backport to lucid, started on autotriage tool, discovered broken deps on lucid for lazr
[14:01] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 800161 in ubuntuone-control-panel "Do not allow folder creation in a folder containing an UDF (affects: 1) (heat: 12)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/800161
[14:01] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 802517 in ubuntuone-control-panel "QT UI: Split the "add folder" button out from the folders panel (affects: 1) (heat: 57)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/802517
[14:01] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 803228 in ubuntuone-control-panel "Make test run and pass on windows (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/803228
[14:01] <dobey> λ TODO: more bug fixing/triage
[14:01] <dobey> mandel
[14:01] <dobey> λ BLCK: None.
[14:02] <mandel> DONE: finished tests for bug 802738 moved to look at bug 708652 and found how to solve it.
[14:02] <mandel> TODO: review for nessita, but 802726 and bug 802628
[14:02] <mandel> BLOCKED: no
[14:02] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 802738 in ubuntuone-client "KeyError on the root folder inside volume manager (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/802738
[14:02] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 708652 in ubuntuone-client "Tritcask does not support the use of long paths on windows (affects: 1) (heat: 7)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/708652
[14:02] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 802628 in ubuntuone-client "Shares dir does not use the long path prefix: \\?\ (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/802628
[14:02] <nessita> bug 802726
[14:02] <mandel> alecu: go
[14:02] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 802726 in ubuntuone-client "KeyError in ubuntuone\syncdaemon\filesystem_notifications.py (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/802726
[14:03] <nessita> any comments?
[14:03] <alecu> DONE: compared twisted 10 and 11 behaviour with txnamedpipes, researched txnamedpipes+iocpreactor+threadedselect reactor, found more txnamedpipes issues
[14:03] <alecu> TODO: change ubuntu-sso-client to use qtreactor back (bug #803433)
[14:03] <alecu> BLOCKED: no
[14:03] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 803433 in ubuntu-sso-client "Use qt-reactor (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/803433
[14:03] <nessita> mandel, ralsina, alecu, Chipaca: meeting "a las y media"?
[14:03] <alecu> nessita, ack
[14:03] <ralsina> nessita: ok for me
[14:03] <mandel> nessita: genial
[14:03] <nessita> ok, thanks everyone!
[14:03] <nessita> eom
[14:03]  * alecu has just tagged bug #803062 with "funniest-bug-titles"
[14:03] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 803062 in ubuntuone-control-panel (and 2 other projects) "Unsurprisingly, sys.platform == "linux2" check no longer works on linux 3 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/803062
[14:04] <nessita> mandel, ralsina: does the check ys.platform == "win32" works on non-32 windows?
[14:04] <ralsina> nessita: good question. let me check!
[14:05] <ralsina> yes
[14:05] <thisfred> for now
[14:05] <ralsina> That is, yes, if I am on windows 7 64 bits, which I am not sure of ;-)
[14:05] <mandel> ralsina: right click on the My Computer in the menu and look at properties
[14:05] <thisfred> I discovered linux2 also still works on linux 3, though it may change soon, so it's good we fixed it
[14:06] <mandel> ralsina: will tell you what os is running
[14:06] <ralsina> yep, 7 home premium 64
[14:06] <ralsina> thisfred: misleading bug!
[14:07] <thisfred> yep, I misremembered the thread on python-dev ;)
[14:08] <nessita> ralsina: to fix: docstring in test_credential_parameters (is the only ds left to fix)
[14:08] <thisfred> ralsina: fixed the bug title and description
[14:09] <mandel> nessita: line 69 in the diff, can that path have \\?\ in it, if it does we have an issue when we expand ~ because the expansion won't have \\?\ and therefore will not work
[14:10] <nessita> looking
[14:10] <mandel> nessita: there is a expanduser function in os_helper that will do that for you, that is expand the user and add \\?\ but I dont know if you need it in this case
[14:11] <nessita> mandel: well, I guess we'll need it since the volume info, sent from syncdaemon, will have the \\?\ prefix
[14:11] <dobey> brb
[14:11] <nessita> mandel: can I file a bug a fix that in a second branch, and check all the project to handle that?
[14:12] <mandel> nessita: sure, if there are more places to check it makes sense
[14:13] <nessita> bug #803437
[14:13] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 803437 in ubuntuone-control-panel "Confirm that paths are properly handled using ubuntuone.platform os helper functions (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/803437
[14:18] <mandel> nessita: besides code review and tests, is there anything I should do?
[14:22] <nessita> mandel: nopes
[14:23] <mandel> +1 then
[14:23] <nessita> thanks!
[14:27] <nessita> mandel: I can't have syncdaemon running, I'm getting errors such as:
[14:27] <nessita> mandel: ah, no, sorry, PICNIC
[14:28] <nessita> my credentials are not in place... somehow syncdaemon is not handling that, I may file a but later
[14:28] <mandel> no worries, PINIC  happens to everyone, even to nessita
[14:28] <mandel> nessita: not it places as in the sso is not getting them?
[14:28] <nessita> and lately very often :-/
[14:29] <ralsina> alecu, mandel: I need a second review for https://code.launchpad.net/~ralsina/ubuntuone-windows-installer/fix_800376/+merge/66194
[14:29] <nessita> mandel: syncdaemon is just calling find_credentials, and sso says CredentialsNotFound. Yet, syncdaemon keeps going and send the empty credentials to the server
[14:29] <mandel> alecu: I'm on ralsina branch before I do context switch to a diff bug
[14:29] <ralsina> mandel: thanks!
[14:30] <nessita> mandel, alecu, Chipaca: mumble?
[14:30] <mandel> nessita: surely we should be getting that error and die.. file a bug and lets see if we can get your sd running
[14:30] <nessita> yeap
[14:30] <nessita> running show_gui now
[14:30] <mandel> ralsina: I hate your merge proposal descriptions ;)
[14:31] <ralsina> mandel: I can change! Why? ;-)
[14:31] <mandel> ralsina: is sooooo much work to do hehehe :)
[14:32] <ralsina> mandel: I would make them easier if I could, trust me
[14:49] <ralsina> alecu: https://code.launchpad.net/~ralsina/ubuntuone-windows-installer/fix_800381/+merge/65502
[15:00] <alecu> ralsina, ping
[15:00] <alecu> ralsina, I'm trying to test irl, but I'm getting the sso screen with no labels
[15:00] <alecu> ralsina, what it was that am I doing wrong???? :-(
[15:00] <ralsina> alecu: did you start the sso client before this?
[15:00] <alecu> ralsina, yes
[15:00] <ralsina> alecu: no idea then ;-(
[15:01] <ralsina> s/;/:/
[15:01] <ralsina> I only get that when I don't start SSO
[15:01] <ralsina> you could try the page of this branch by moving it to the beginning of the wizard
[15:03] <ralsina> wait:the "login as existing user" page has no labels on the lineedits. It should have "sign in" in the button, though
[15:03] <ralsina> alecu: ^
[15:03] <alecu> ralsina, right
[15:04] <alecu> ralsina, well, I'm seeing some pb errors on the log, so it might be the iocp reactor acting up.
[15:04] <ralsina> alecu: darn
[15:04] <alecu> ralsina, ok, since run-tests.bat has run successfully, I'll approve stating that my dev env is borked.
[15:05] <ralsina> alecu: ok
[15:05] <alecu> ralsina, and hopefully we'll switch the wizard to use qtreactor tomorrow too.
[15:05] <ralsina> alecu: if there are IRL problems they will show up in the next branch for this bug anyway
[15:05] <alecu> cool
[15:06] <ralsina> alecu: does that involve anything other than changing the main? I can do that.
[15:06] <alecu> ralsina, approved.
[15:06] <ralsina> alecu: yay!
[15:09] <alecu> ralsina, we need to change the main to use the qtreactor, and change the calls to sso to use some code that will start sso if it's not running. I still need to think a bit on how to do that.
[15:09] <ralsina> yes, the activation is tricky
[15:09] <alecu> ralsina, I'll first change -sso and u1-client, and then we'll use the same on u1cp and the wizard.
[15:10] <ralsina> alecu: sure
[15:10] <alecu> anyway, I'll probably do the activation after seeing all the pieces working together.
[15:26] <ralsina> mandel: on your branch, the os_helper tests pass, the code is OK, but I have no idea if it fixes the underlying problem because I don't know if you caught it everywhere that it happened. So, I am not sure if my approve is worth anything.
[15:26] <mandel> ralsina: lets get ask verterok
[15:27] <ralsina> nessita, mandel, alecu, thisfred, dobey: OBJECTIVES!
[15:27] <thisfred> ah, yes
[15:28] <ralsina> nessita, mandel, alecu, thisfred, dobey: can each of you make a first draft, then we chat a bit to polish? Due tomorrow?
[15:28] <dobey> oh yeah, we have to do that thing today
[15:28] <thisfred> I misread that as 'chat a bit in Polish', and thought, wow they don't make it easy
[15:28] <mandel> ralsina: objective => holidays, survive windows
[15:28] <dobey> bother. i totally forgot about that :(
[15:28] <mandel> ralsina: is that ok?
[15:28] <dobey> lol
[15:28] <ralsina> mandel: doesn't fill the year ;-)
[15:29] <mandel> ralsina: holidays can surely fill the year :)
[15:29] <thisfred> surviving hopefully does ;)
[15:29] <nessita> ralsina: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[15:29] <ralsina> nessita: agreed :-(
[15:30] <thisfred> ralsina: draft in the admin system or in email?
[15:31] <alecu> mandel, what does "survive windows" mean? not falling thru any?
[15:32] <mandel> alecu: and gates too
[15:33] <ralsina> thisfred: email would be easier for me
[15:34] <thisfred> kk
[15:34] <ralsina> damn 30-day months!
[15:40] <dobey> hi adorilson
[15:41] <adorilson> dobey: can you see my proposal merge?
[15:41] <adorilson> https://code.launchpad.net/~adorilson/ubuntuone-control-panel/fix-802069/+merge/66227
[15:41] <dobey> adorilson: i haven't seen one yet, but i wanted to discuss with you, because i haven't been able to find the default compiler flags for fedora anywhere on google
[15:42] <dobey> adorilson: and i would very much like to know whwat those are
[15:43] <adorilson> dobey: ok, but this patch is not about this. is about another bug.
[15:43] <dobey> alecu: this is surviving windows: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlMUswe8wY8
[15:44] <dobey> oh
[15:44] <dobey> adorilson: oh, this seems incorrect
[15:47] <nessita> ralsina: is there any chance you buy us some time re: goals?
[15:47] <ralsina> nessita: sure
[15:48] <ralsina> nessita: monday is good? I can try to get that much
[15:48] <nessita> ralsina: well, Tuesday, since MOnday I'm not coming. Which reminds me, I need to swap this friday swap to later in time
[15:49] <ralsina> nessita: ok, will try to get tuesday.
[15:52] <Chipaca> ralsina: ping
[15:52] <ralsina> Chipaca: pong
[15:54] <mandel> dobey: this one is for you http://i.imgur.com/aqzMu.png
[15:54] <dobey> mandel: ^5
[15:54] <mandel> :D
[15:55] <mandel> ralsina: uper quick easy review: https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntuone-client/fix-708652/+merge/66322
[15:55] <mandel> s/uper/super
[15:57] <ralsina> mandel: checking!
[15:58] <mandel> ralsina: one question, when you call the __init__ of your parent class, should that always be the first thing you call?
[15:58] <ralsina> mandel: no
[15:58] <ralsina> mandel: but you can't use anything from the parent class before that
[15:59] <ralsina> mandel: I am under strict suggestions to not approve anything without tests ;-)
[15:59] <mandel> ralsina: how the hell do i test that?
[15:59] <mandel> ralsina: that was in a polite tone, no screaming etc..
[16:01] <ralsina> mandel: hahaha, beats me. Let me see some context.
[16:01] <ralsina> nah, no way to test it, +1
[16:02] <mandel> :D
[16:02] <ralsina> it's a temporary value right in the middle of a method, so whatever
[16:02] <nessita> ralsina: I m having a terrible time tryng to have things running in the VM. Was alecu able to run your branch?
[16:05] <ralsina> nessita: he got reactor errors
[16:05] <ralsina> nessita: In any case, the IRL for that branch can be re-done after the next branch for the same bug
[16:07] <ralsina> nessita: but the tests passed! ;-)
[16:07] <nessita> ralsina: right, I ll approve then
[16:08] <ralsina> nessita: col, thx
[16:08] <nessita> ralsina: wait, did you fix  test_credential_parameters docstring? LP may be lying
[16:09] <nessita> (it doesn't look fixed after a reload)
[16:09]  * ralsina checks
[16:09] <ralsina> nessita: no, will fix before merging
[16:09] <ralsina> always one gets away :-(
[16:10] <nessita> ack
[16:10] <ralsina> nessita: pushed
[16:12] <nessita> gaaaaah I can't use ussoc twice in a row!!!
[16:13] <ralsina> nessita: 'stale reactor"  error?
[16:13] <nessita> ralsina: no, ussoc just do not answer any request
[16:13] <nessita> ...
[16:13] <nessita> anyways, let's start over again! :-)
[16:14] <nessita> I'll grab some snack first
[16:16] <ralsina> food! good idea!
[16:16] <dobey> oh it's about that time
[16:19] <mandel> ralsina_lunch: ping?
[16:20] <mandel> ralsina_lunch: well, for later, seems that you approved https://code.launchpad.net/~ralsina/ubuntuone-windows-installer/fix_800376/+merge/66194 before you had a second review (I was on it) I have approved it but I suppose that tarmac will complain, but I'm not sure
[16:21] <ralsina_lunch> mandel: oh, damn, didn't notice
[16:22]  * ralsina_lunch confused two branches :-(
[16:22] <ralsina_lunch> mandel: could you actually see it?
[16:22] <mandel> ralsina_lunch: yes, development has moved from dependency hell to branch hell
[16:22] <mandel> ralsina_lunch: the approve or the dialog?
[16:22] <ralsina_lunch> mandel: the dialog?
[16:23] <ralsina_lunch> ralsina_lunch: I mean, the dialog :-)
[16:23] <mandel> ralsina_lunch: yes, I had some issue but I think is because I did not follow the instructions
[16:23] <mandel> let me recheck
[16:24] <mandel> ralsina_lunch: yes, works
[16:24] <ralsina_lunch> mandel: ok, great
[16:24] <adorilson> dobey: I saw your comment.
[16:24] <ralsina_lunch> so, after luch, I can add the last page, then hack it all together
[16:24] <ralsina_lunch> yay!
[16:26] <adorilson> dobey: You means that we write just one line?
[16:26] <dobey> adorilson: i also commented on the make error bug. can you provide the default compiler flags on that bug report, from fedora?
[16:27] <dobey> adorilson: no, i mean the string literal should remain the way it was before your change, and you should only change the second line of that function call, to use the % (foo, bar) instead
[16:28] <dobey> adorilson: or preferrably use .format() notation instead of %-notation
[16:28] <dobey> since %-notation is deprecated
[16:31] <nessita> mandel: good news, seems like your fix to normapth is working (I still need to go thru the logs to confirm no exceptions are there)
[16:31] <dobey> ok, am off to lunch. bbiab
[16:31] <nessita> mandel: also, images are not corrupted, so yey!!!!
[16:31] <nessita> mandel: one down side is that I deleted a folder in the web UI, but that change is not being reflected locally in windows\
[16:32] <nessita> mandel: any clues?
[16:32] <adorilson> dobey: ok. I'll fix
[16:32] <mandel> nessita: first time I see that… is it a udf or a folder inside root?
[16:33] <nessita> mandel: folder inside root, I haven't tested UDF's yet. Hum, looking at the logs I see an exception
[16:33] <nessita> OSError
[16:33] <nessita> mandel: will file bug
[16:33] <mandel> nessita: ok, that is good :)
[16:33] <nessita> mandel: yes!
[16:33] <nessita> you need reviews from me, for the normpath thingy?
[16:34] <mandel> nessita: let me check
[16:34] <nessita> (or anything else)
[16:34] <mandel> nessita: yes please normpath is here: https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntuone-client/fix-802738/+merge/66292
[16:35] <nessita> ralsina_lunch: swap day re-swapped
[16:35] <nessita> mandel: looking
[16:35] <mandel> nessita: there is an explanation of why abspath is used as a TODO, the branch that fixes tritcask is approved so I'll file a low level bug pointing to those todo comments
[16:36] <nessita> mandel: please!
[16:36] <mandel> nessita: also, can you let me know your bug, I think i'll fix that one faster than the one of the events
[16:36] <mandel> which seems to be easy.. and event mask is missing
[16:37] <nessita> mandel: the OSError? yes, will report that before the review, on sec
[16:37] <mandel> nessita: do you know which changes where made regarding pyinotify? it could be realted since I use the same masks
[16:37] <nessita> mandel: no idea, no
[16:43] <nessita> mandel: bug #803507
[16:43] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 803507 in ubuntuone-client "OSError when deleting a folder (windows version) (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/803507
[16:45] <nessita> brb
[16:45] <mandel> nessita: great! that is a piss of cake, os.listdir is appending / instead of os.path.sep, we have to apend it so that listdir does not behave like a retard :)
[16:57] <nessita> :-)
[16:58] <thisfred> even when he's not trying to be offensive... ;)
[16:58] <thisfred> o wait, strike that I didn't read the whole sentence.
[17:02] <mandel> thisfred: I should have said piece, I dont know what I was thinking...
[17:02]  * mandel looks at the second monitor… no piss porn there...
[17:03] <nessita> mandel: for future coding, I've notice you use different names for the test cases. I've seen FooTestCase, FooTests and TestFoo
[17:03] <nessita> mandel: if possible, please let's use FooTestCase
[17:03] <mandel> nessita: ok
[17:03] <nessita> mandel: setUp in TestSpecialOSCalls is not needed, can you please remove?
[17:04] <mandel> nessita: yes
[17:07] <nessita> mandel: that would be all from eye-review, now I'll branch and run tests
[17:07] <mandel> nessita: I'll wait to push the branchin case you have more omments
[17:12] <nessita> mandel: while tests run, I would like you to analize http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/635142/, that log is from this last run in w7. The OSError is the reported above, but there are several WindowsError: [Error 2] The system cannot find the file specified: '\\\\?\\C:\\Users\\Test\\Ubuntu One\\empty'
[17:14] <mandel> nessita: sees to be a diff issue… I wonder did you get those paths in your machine when you performed the sync?
[17:14] <nessita> yes
[17:15] <mandel> nessita: hm.. interesting, is there a way were we can find a better trace for one of those?
[17:15] <mandel> nessita: I'd say that is a diff bug altogether, but at leadt we not that _idx_path has the correct info
[17:16] <nessita> mandel: what do you mean by better trace? those logs are in DEBUG mode, not sure what else I can provide :-)
[17:17] <mandel> nessita: true… I'd like to know who is callig the stat method
[17:17] <mandel> seems to be VM, I'll grep for it
[17:19] <nessita> mandel: good news is that the only other Error there is the already known
[17:19] <nessita> 23:736:exceptions.KeyError: 'Unhandled Event in INotify: <Event dir=True mask=0x40000020 maskname=IN_OPEN|IN_ISDIR name=images path=. pathname=\\\\?\\C:\\Users\\Test\\Ubuntu One\\images wd=0 >'
[17:19] <nessita> mandel: so, :-)
[17:19] <nessita> mandel: I'll work a little on running the control panel tests on windows, to detect all possible paths issues. Then I'll do some testing with UDF and shares
[17:20] <mandel> nessita: yes, I do you know why is that one? we are dealing with opening folders, which is something that pyinotify does not care about :)
[17:20] <mandel> nessita: I'm working on that event one right now
[17:21] <nessita> mandel: not sure what you're asking me if I know about. Can you please re-ask? Also, branch approved, so please push fixes before landing (beh, actually seeking another review)
[17:22] <mandel> nessita: nothing, I was saying I know how to fix it :)
[17:22] <nessita> great!
[17:28] <ralsina_lunch> nessita: swap-swap-day ap-ap-proved
[17:28] <nessita> :-)
[17:29] <nessita> no, lunchtime!
[17:29]  * nessita -> brbs
[17:42] <mandel> ralsina, alecu: I need one more review here: https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntuone-client/fix-802738/+merge/66292
[17:43] <ralsina> mandel: on it ASAP
[17:44] <mandel> ralsina: I think you already did it, is the one you were not sure about
[17:44] <ralsina> yes, want to see the new diff and that's all
[17:45] <ralsina> mandel: +1
[17:46] <mandel> cool
[17:58]  * mandel afternoon dog walk
[18:18] <dobey> meh
[18:18]  * nessita is back
[18:19] <ralsina> nessita: small problem using the "add folder" button: https://pastebin.canonical.com/49186/
[18:20] <nessita> looking
[18:20] <nessita> ralsina: right, we don't have (yet) integration with syncdaemontool in windows
[18:21] <nessita> ralsina: let me build a branch for that right now
[18:21] <ralsina> nessita: ok, then it works ;-)
[18:24] <nessita> ralsina: can you plaese file a bug so I work on that?
[18:27] <ralsina> nessita: sure, bug #803560
[18:27] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 803560 in ubuntuone-control-panel "AddFolderButton calls unimplemented get_root_dir method in sd_client (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/803560
[18:27] <nessita> thanks
[18:29] <nessita> ralsina: great work setting the tag properly! :-)
[18:29]  * ralsina learns eventually
[18:29] <karni> You Android guys! Check out Ubuntu One Files for Android :) https://market.android.com/details?id=com.ubuntuone.android.files
[18:38] <thisfred> nessita: alecu-lunch dobey: no idea why or for how long, but the launcher does not work for me on natty in that I never get to see the progress bar, or anything else I set on it, even though the code does not fail. Even when I don't use our own code. Can any of you test this script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/635202/
[18:38] <thisfred> did we change/break the .desktop file maybe?
[18:38] <dobey> thisfred: well i don't have an 11.04 system with unity. does the same problem occur in oneiric?
[18:39] <nessita> thisfred: not that I know of
[18:39] <thisfred> dobey: please try it on oneiric too
[18:39] <thisfred> I'll do the same
[18:39] <nessita> (ie I don't think we broke the .desktop file)
[18:39] <nessita> thisfred: I can test when I boot my natty VM, where I run unity
[18:39] <dobey> thisfred: maybe i'm not understanding the problem them. are you saying that this code itself doesn't work?
[18:39] <thisfred> dobey: it does not error, but no progress bar shows up
[18:40] <adorilson>  dobey: do you means this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/635188/ ?
[18:40] <dobey> thisfred: so there is no main loop set up in that script...
[18:40] <dobey> thisfred: which tells me the dbus stuff doesn't actually get called there
[18:40] <thisfred> oh god
[18:40] <thisfred> thx :)
[18:40] <thisfred> nessita: false alarm, most likely
[18:40] <thisfred> I'm testing out of context again
[18:41] <nessita> thisfred: OH
[18:41] <thisfred> dobey: still weird that the properties get set though
[18:41] <nessita> thisfred: let me know
[18:41] <dobey> adorilson: hi, no, that is also incorrect
[18:41] <thisfred> dobey: and I still don't see a progress bar when uploading/downloading
[18:41] <thisfred> but that may have a different cause then
[18:41] <dobey> adorilson: 'some string {} says something {}'.format(first, second) for example
[18:42] <dobey> thisfred: they objects internally probably get properties set, but those properties probably don't sent over the bus to the server :)
[18:42] <dobey> thisfred: fait accompli of python :)
[18:43] <thisfred> dobey: when I add DBusGMainloop(set_as_default=True) it still does not work
[18:43] <thisfred> dobey: fait accompli?
[18:44] <ralsina> nessita: is your new branch like "milanesas para todos"? ;-)
[18:44] <nessita> lol
[18:44] <adorilson> dobey: ok. a second
[18:45] <dobey> thisfred: did you create and run a main loop?
[18:45] <dobey> thisfred: or just make that one call?
[18:46] <thisfred> I just made that call
[18:46] <thisfred> so do I need a gtk mainloop?
[18:46] <dobey> thisfred: so, the Unity stuff is going through a C library, not through Python, so the DBus bits don't complain like they would normally
[18:46] <dobey> thisfred: the DBusGMainLoop isn't going to do anything in this case, really. but you do have to create and run a glib main loop
[18:47] <thisfred> or complain when they wouldn't normally. The counter is wonky for instance
[18:48] <dobey> thisfred: mistakes would probably be more obvious were you using C instead. using gir through python can be odd sometimes :)
[18:52] <thisfred> dobey: yeah works with glib MainLoop, never mind the dolt in the corner
[18:52] <thisfred> eating the paste
[18:54] <dobey> thisfred: if it's not working from syncdaemon, i think maybe there's another issue
[18:54] <dobey> i know i've definitely seen it working before :)
[18:54] <thisfred> yeah, me too, so I wonder
[18:55] <ralsina> nessita: done adding the u1cp widgets to the wizard, I will be blocked on bug #803560 pretty soon. No worries though, I can switch to improving the SSO UI until you have it ready.
[18:55] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 803560 in ubuntuone-control-panel "sd_client code should be multiplatform (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/803560
[18:56] <nessita> ralsina: ack
[18:56] <dobey> thisfred: have you compared nightlies vs. what's in 11.04?
[18:56] <nessita> ralsina: did you implement all the calling the backend to validate and creating a folder? (if so, wow)
[18:56] <ralsina> nessita: no, because since it throws exception when I click the button there's no point
[18:57] <ralsina> nessita: I will do it for the default folders I add, and then I am blocked
[18:57] <thisfred> dobey: not yet, but I'm not 100% convinced there is a problem yet. Trying to find a good test case
[18:57] <nessita> ralsina: ack
[18:57] <adorilson> dobey: and now? http://paste.ubuntu.com/635218/
[18:58] <adorilson> see that I'm respect the 80 columns
[18:58] <dobey> adorilson: you don't need the \ continuation there; and the .format( should be on the same line that the string literal ends on, and put the arguments to format() on the next line
[19:00] <adorilson> dobey: like this
[19:00] <adorilson> 'Unable to generate python module {py_file}'
[19:00] <adorilson>         ' for resource file {qrc_file}'.format(
[19:00] <adorilson>         py_file=py_file, qrc_file=qrc_file)
[19:00] <adorilson> ?
[19:00] <dobey> yep
[19:01] <adorilson> finally...
[19:01] <dobey> with correct whitespace alignment. if you have pep8 and pylint (ubuntuone-dev-tools) installed, you should run ./run-tests and it will run both
[19:09]  * mandel back
[19:14] <nessita> ralsina: so, I'm pushing the branch with the needed changes. You should notice that this will no work on windows just yet, since we need to have all the pieces working (and we need the HUGE work that alecu is doing). What I mean is: in order this to work, you'd need both ussoc and latest syncdaemon running in your env to be able to run this code (I'm not sure that is possible at the moment)
[19:15] <nessita> on the other hand, I'll be testing that shortly
[19:15] <ralsina> nessita: no problem, I have the code written on my side, block on that and can context switch
[19:15] <nessita> perfect
[19:16] <ralsina> Any reviews pending? I have a free hour!
[19:16] <nessita> ralsina: I'm about to
[19:17] <ralsina> nessita: good. I'll go set up the mate
[19:17] <nessita> ralsina: https://code.launchpad.net/~nataliabidart/ubuntuone-control-panel/sd-client-for-everyone/+merge/66368
[19:17] <nessita> :-)
[19:17] <nessita> mandel: ping
[19:17] <nessita> mandel: any reviews for ralsina or me?
[19:19] <nessita> mandel: I just reported bug #803591 as Medium, so you can fix when possible (no priority)
[19:19] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 803591 in ubuntuone-client "Windows: Logs shoul not be stored under "Temporary Internet Files" (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/803591
[19:20] <mandel> nessita: nearly done with the events bug, trying to find a decent wayt to test it
[19:20] <nessita> mandel: no problem
[19:22] <adorilson> dobey: I'm having problems with ./setup build (and ./run-tests too) :-/
[19:23] <nessita> ralsina: I'll give the current code in windows-installer a IRL round of tests, so be prepared
[19:23]  * nessita wants to use this last hour of ralsina's time :-P
[19:24]  * ralsina looks for his helmet
[19:24] <dobey> adorilson: what problems?
[19:25] <adorilson> dobey: Segmentation fault (core image recorded)
[19:25] <nessita> ralsina: ẁhat should I install for 'intlool-update'?
[19:25] <ralsina> nessita: no idea. Works anyway.
[19:25] <dobey> adorilson: oh. uhm, do you have backtraces?
[19:25] <dobey> nessita: intltool
[19:26] <ralsina> nessita: although of course that means we don't have translations
[19:26] <nessita> dobey: as with easy_install?
[19:26] <dobey> nessita: no, it is not a python thing
[19:26] <ralsina> dobey: I installed intltool on windows and I have no idea where intltool-update is :-)
[19:26] <ralsina> nessita: it's a gettext thing
[19:26] <dobey> ralsina: how did you install it?
[19:27]  * ralsina reads notes...
[19:28] <nessita> ralsina: ARGH, the reactor exploded
[19:28] <ralsina> nessita: that sounds bad
[19:28] <dobey> well, building it on windows requires mingw/cygwin and all the autotools stuff; but the scripts should run if everything is installed
[19:28] <ralsina> forget about intltool on windws. I had installed gettext
[19:29] <adorilson> dobey: no. this is the only output
[19:29] <ralsina> hahaha, "I will make a release for windows son" (dobey, 2005) :-D
[19:29] <ralsina> http://osdir.com/ml/freedesktop.intltool/2005-04/msg00003.html
[19:29] <ralsina> s/son/soon/
[19:30] <dobey> ralsina: release != build for win32 :)
[19:30] <nessita> ralsina: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/635246/
[19:30] <dobey> ralsina: intltool now works on win32 (as of that release), though
[19:31] <nessita> alecu: ping
[19:31] <dobey> was one of the requirements to making evolution builds on windows, back in the day :)
[19:31] <alecu> nessita, pong
[19:31] <ralsina> nessita: whoa.
[19:31] <nessita> dobey: SO YOU KNOW WINDOWS
[19:31] <dobey> anyway
[19:31] <nessita> alecu: I'm getting this when running ralsina's installer, is what you got as well? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/635246/
[19:32] <nessita> :-)
[19:32] <dobey> i know some of my games require windows to run :)
[19:32] <alecu> nessita, yes. That looks like txnamedpipes repeating some lines
[19:32] <ralsina> anyway, we don't really need intltool on windows, we can use it on linux
[19:34] <adorilson> dobey: BTW, can you aprove this?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/635239/
[19:34] <dobey> ralsina: well, don't need it now, but if we want to provide translations… :)
[19:34] <dobey> adorilson: did you commit and push it, in your branch?
[19:35] <nessita> ralsina, alecu: in case this adds up any info, I'll say that this happens every single time for me. But I don't think that gives any further clue.
[19:35] <ralsina> dobey: why would we have to do the translations on the windows boxes? We can extract the strings and translate as usual.
[19:35] <dobey> adorilson: the whitespace alignment looks alightly off, but i can't tell if that's due to the diff formatting or not
[19:35] <nessita> ralsina: is it intended that the "close this window and setup later" in in the left corner, instead pf right corner?
[19:35] <dobey> ralsina: well i'm sure chinese users might want to see chinese in the UI for example :)
[19:36] <ralsina> nessita: yes. Wireframe.
[19:36] <nessita> ralsina: and then, the sign in screen shows 2 entry text widgets and a button, but everything is "blank" (no text anywhere)
[19:36] <dobey> ralsina: but i think translations are an aside at the moment, as well. we've not been particularly good about keeping them updated
[19:36] <ralsina> nessita: the empty labels/buttons are because your SSO is not running, AFAK
[19:37] <nessita> ralsina: it is
[19:37] <nessita> I can triple confirm it is
[19:37] <ralsina> nessita: then it's not connecting to it. Do you get ENOENT on the wizard console?
[19:37] <nessita> ralsina: nopes, I keep getting the KeyError: 2
[19:37] <adorilson> dobey: the formatting is ok. do you means the 11 and 12 lines ?
[19:38] <ralsina> nessita: Then it's crashing before connecting, I suppose
[19:38] <dobey> adorilson: yes, it's not aligned with the previous line.
[19:38] <nessita> ralsina: okis. Question, does your code check for current credentials in the system? is asking me to login and I'm already logged in to Ubuntu One
[19:39] <ralsina> nessita: doesn't check because you are not supposed to run it after you have credentials, and because it makes it harder to test
[19:40] <nessita> ralsina: ok, I'll file a bug to fix this later, since we can't expect people not running this without credentials. Is not needed to tweak now.
[19:40] <adorilson> dobey: review http://paste.ubuntu.com/635249/
[19:40] <ralsina> nessita: that line has probably one or two nots too many for my parser, but ... ok? ;-)
[19:40] <dobey> adorilson: can you commit/push in your proposed branch please
[19:41] <nessita> ralsina: hehe, I meant we can deal with this later, but I'll file the bug to not forget
[19:41] <ralsina> nessita: sure, assgn to me as triaged
[19:41] <nessita> :-)
[19:42]  * ralsina doesn't want to add 'clear credentials' step to his already excessive IRL test instructions yet
[19:42] <nessita> ralsina: nonono, i agree
[19:42] <adorilson> dobey: ok. I'll change the others %-notation in this same method, before. all right?
[19:43] <dobey> adorilson: i don't think it's necessary to do that, as they are unrelated to the bug
[19:43] <nessita> bug #803595
[19:43] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 803595 in ubuntuone-windows-installer "Wizard does not check for credentials already in the system (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/803595
[19:43] <adorilson> dobey: ok. I do this after
[19:44] <nessita> ralsina: did you got my link for review? may be lost since you went for mate when I pasted it
[19:44] <ralsina> nessita: missed it. On it now1
[19:44] <nessita> thanks!
[19:45] <dobey> adorilson: i think it's something we need to do in all our projects, so probably should have some grandiose bug for converting everything to use .format() instead
[19:53] <mandel> nessita, ralsina: can you merge this: lp:~mandel/ubuntuone-client/fix-802726 with trunk and test that is solves the issue with the events?
[19:53] <nessita> mandel: sure
[19:53] <ralsina> mandel: I don't think I will have time before I have to stop
[19:53] <mandel> nessita, ralsina: I'v added tests, but they are the filesystem ones and will be annoying
[19:53] <mandel> ralsina: EOD?
[19:54] <ralsina> mandel: I have to EOD very early because of E_NO_NANNY
[19:54] <mandel> ralsina: ouch
[19:54] <nessita> mandel: I can try it
[19:54] <mandel> nessita: cool :)
[19:55] <ralsina> nessita: I am trying your sd_client branch and there is still some linuxisms there: https://pastebin.canonical.com/49192/
[19:56] <ralsina> nessita: or it may be just a case of me not having something in PATH
[19:57] <nessita> ralsina: looking
[19:57] <nessita> ralsina: is a bug! let me fix it, I need to import from platform
[19:58] <dobey> hmm, goals eh
[20:01] <adorilson> dobey: pushed
[20:03] <dobey> nessita: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/635265/ <- any ideas about this? happening on lucid in sso trunk
[20:04] <nessita> dobey: looking
[20:04] <mandel> nessita: ping
[20:04] <nessita> ralsina: running tests, about to push
[20:04] <nessita> mandel: pong
[20:04] <mandel> nessita: have you been using the zomg tag in the latests bug you reported?
[20:05] <nessita> dobey: httplib2 backport/sru issue?
[20:05] <mandel> nessita: I remember one about an illegal path but I cannot find it
[20:05] <nessita> dobey: looks like a dns(ish) issue or similar
[20:05] <mandel> nessita: it was of the form WindowsError illegal\path\like\this/*.*
[20:05] <nessita> mandel: yes, I have. How are you searching?
[20:05] <ralsina> dobey: the only way for urllib2 to give that error is have "ftp:" as the URL, AFAIK
[20:05] <mandel> nessita: by tag
[20:05] <nessita> mandel: under which project?
[20:06] <dobey> nessita: why is it trying to hit the network at all in the test though? :)
[20:06] <dobey> and i haven't backported httplib2
[20:06] <mandel> nessita: ubuntuone-client
[20:06] <dobey> and lucid has 0.6.0-1
[20:08] <nessita> mandel: http://bit.ly/laUrZs
[20:08] <nessita> mandel: anyways, the bug was bug #803507 (and it has the tag)
[20:08] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 803507 in ubuntuone-client "OSError when deleting a folder (windows version) (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/803507
[20:09] <dobey> nessita: and all the changes in 10.10/11.04 to python-httplib2 are all packaging changes afaict "build with python3 support, use dh_python2, etc…"
[20:09] <nessita> dobey: oh, is that a test run? sound weird
[20:09] <dobey> nessita: yep, see line 1 in the pastebin :)
[20:09] <mandel> nessita: your launchpad foo is better than mine :)
[20:09] <nessita> dobey: so looks like a patching issue, maybe setUp/tearDown not correctly used?
[20:09] <dobey> hrmm, maybe
[20:09] <nessita> dobey: we patch urllib in setUp
[20:10] <nessita> dobey: so this smells like related to that. I can help debug, but not today, sorry :-(
[20:10] <dobey> nessita: is the patch from mocker, or from twisted?
[20:10] <nessita> dobey: twisted
[20:10] <dobey> ok
[20:11] <nessita> ralsina: pushing
[20:11] <nessita> ralsina: Pushed up to revision 178.
[20:11] <ralsina> nessita: cool, pulling :-)
[20:13] <nessita> mandel: OH. I created a folder from windows, and added a bmp in it. The directory was created in my cloud, but the file was not :-(
[20:13] <nessita> mandel: gathering logs now
[20:15] <nessita> mandel: syncdaemon seems to be stucked somehow, since is still in WORKING state, but nothing is being actually done
[20:15] <mandel> nessita: that could be tha cache… but 100 other things too :(
[20:16] <ralsina> nessita: goes further, get this: https://pastebin.canonical.com/49193/ --- and I have to go pick up the kid
[20:16] <nessita> ralsina: ack]
[20:16] <ralsina> See you later #ubuntuone!
[20:17] <nessita> ralsina: if you read this later, that is now related to syncdaemon code
[20:18] <nessita> ralsina: so, is the thing I mentioned before, we need all the pieces of the puzzle running together in order to the control panel to work
[20:21] <mandel> nessita, ralsina, alecu: EOD for me, 21:21 see you all tom
[20:23] <dobey> hrmm
[20:23] <dobey> we don't patch urllib
[20:24] <nessita> dobey: we do! let me find that for you
[20:24] <dobey> not in test_account.py anyway, but i am debugging :)
[20:25] <dobey> and it's a file:// url on 11.04 in the test at least, so hrmm
[20:25] <nessita> oh
[20:33] <dobey> i at least do have lucid available to test a few things on, since i have a server :)
[20:34] <dobey> huh
[20:34] <dobey> and it's a file:// url on lucid too
[20:34] <dobey> wtf.
[20:48] <dobey> hrmm
[20:49] <dobey> adorilson: you didn't need to resubmit the proposal, btw
[20:50] <thisfred> dobey: I'm trying to test on oneiric, but having some weird trouble: I cannot connect: I threw away the token, then I thought I had the wrong password maybe to authenticate the device, asked for and got a new one, but whenever I enter it, I see the string 'An exception representing an authentication failure'  in red, which is a terrible error message. (Looks like we're showing an exception doc string??)
[20:50] <thisfred> this is the control panel, obviously
[20:51] <thisfred> I also see *two* icons in the launcher, does the login dialog really need its own icon?
[20:51] <dobey> thisfred: and you have the latest stuff?
[20:51] <thisfred> I am dist upgraded with nightlies
[20:51] <dobey> thisfred: the SSO dialog is a separate process/application/not-specific-to-u1
[20:51] <thisfred> hm ok
[20:52] <thisfred> ugly, but I suppose we have to live with that
[20:52] <dobey> so yes it does need its own icon, but the icon it has might suck
[20:52] <dobey> and we should fix that icon
[20:52] <thisfred> oh, and now my machine rebooted itself. I'm thinking the control panel is the least of my worries
[20:53] <thisfred> I still get: runtime directory '/run/udev' not writeable
[20:53] <thisfred> on every boot
[20:53] <dobey> i do too
[20:53] <thisfred> oh ok
[20:53] <dobey> i think it's trying to do something before root is remounted
[20:53] <nessita> alecu, someone else, can I have a couple of reviews for https://code.launchpad.net/~nataliabidart/ubuntuone-control-panel/sd-client-for-everyone/+merge/66368 ?
[20:54] <thisfred> also it seems to take a random selection of indicators to show each section
[20:54] <thisfred> nessita: I'll take one
[20:55] <nessita> thisfred: GENIAL!
[20:55] <nessita> thisfred: test IRL would be to confirm both -gtk and -qt panels are working properly
[20:55] <thisfred> kk
[20:59] <alecu> nessita, can we trade? https://code.launchpad.net/~alecu/ubuntu-sso-client/use-qtreactor/+merge/66380
[20:59] <nessita> alecu: of course!
[20:59]  * nessita reviews
[21:08] <nessita> alecu: question, shouldn't we calling app.exit() the same?
[21:08] <nessita> on shutdown, that is
[21:08] <alecu> nessita, I think not, but let me check.
[21:08] <nessita> ack
[21:10] <nessita> alecu: other question, shouldn't the show_gui use the qtreator? (importing only from twisted.internet import reactor will install the default reactor)
[21:16] <alecu> nessita, I think we should not, but let me check.
[21:17] <ralsina> Calling app.quit() is not necessary unless you called app.exec_()
[21:18] <adorilson> dobey: ok. it is my first time with bazar and code.launchpad
[21:19] <dobey> adorilson: sure. good time for you to learn then :)
[21:19] <adorilson> yeap
[21:25] <alecu> nessita, I just double checked, and roberto is right: we don't need the app.exit anymore.
[21:26] <nessita> alecu: thanks for checking. Any thoughts on the show_gui question?
[21:26] <alecu> nessita, show_gui.py does not need the qt reactor, because it does not show any gui.
[21:27] <alecu> nessita, it just calls sso thru pb+tcp
[21:27] <nessita> alecu: you, clever. Thanks.
[21:27] <nessita> alecu: approving
[21:27] <ralsina> alecu: need a second review?
[21:27] <thisfred> I also like the new feature in oneiric where when the screenaver locks your screen, and you don't enter your password in time, it's locked forever, saying 'time expired'
[21:28] <nessita> ralsina: did you see my comment re your last paste? I mostly want to be sure you understand where we're at with this integration
[21:28] <alecu> nessita, anyway: I tested if the qtreactor needed the app.exit by adding the qtreactor to show_gui, and watching it shut down cleanly.
[21:28] <nessita> alecu: right
[21:28] <alecu> ralsina, sure, a second review is appreciated: https://code.launchpad.net/~alecu/ubuntu-sso-client/use-qtreactor/+merge/66380
[21:28] <ralsina> nessita: yes, I was just seing how far that went. I think it may go a bit farther if syncdaemon were running at the time
[21:28] <nessita> ralsina: lol
[21:28] <ralsina> nessita: so, I am about to +1 that branch
[21:29] <nessita> alecu: I was asking since the controlpanel, which only calls reactor.stop, does not stops when closing the app, but between 10 seconds to 60 seconds later
[21:29] <nessita> on linux
[21:29] <alecu> nessita, on linux!
[21:29] <nessita> I added app.quit when doing a test and that will not work either, and what you and ralsina say, explain why it did not help
[21:30] <nessita> alecu: yeap (controlpanel that is)
[21:30] <nessita> alecu: I *think* (hand waving) that the webclient is preventing the reactor to fully stop
[21:30] <alecu> nessita, hmmm... no ideas yet.
[21:30]  * ralsina proposes killing our own PID (jk)
[21:30] <nessita> becasue when I ctrl+c the process, I get webclient traces
[21:31] <alecu> ralsina, os.seppuku?
[21:31] <nessita> but who knows if that is just coincidence
[21:31] <ralsina> alecu: exactly!
[21:31] <ralsina> nessita: is that with the qt-based web client?
[21:31] <nessita> ralsina: yes, control-panel-qt on linux
[21:31] <ralsina> nessita: that uses threads, I think
[21:32] <nessita> ralsina: threads where?
[21:32] <alecu> ralsina, we never ended up moving to the qt-based web client, I think. We'll probably revisit that after moving all to qtreactor.
[21:32] <ralsina> Ok, forget it ithen ;-)
[21:32] <alecu> we are currently using the twisted web client.
[21:32] <dobey> ah-hah!
[21:32] <nessita> thisfred: I will leave the name StatusMockDBusSyncDaemon since is from existent code... if that's ok with you
[21:33] <dobey> nessita: i found the problem, but no idea why it was working on newer versions of ubuntu :(
[21:33] <nessita> alecu: no review needed, thisfred made one and ralsina is approving as well
[21:33] <thisfred> nessita: yeah sure
[21:33] <nessita> dobey: shoot
[21:33] <ralsina> reactor.stop() is supposed to kill any pending perations, right?
[21:33] <alecu> nessita, cool, thanks.
[21:34] <ralsina> nessita: +1 on https://code.launchpad.net/~nataliabidart/ubuntuone-control-panel/sd-client-for-everyone/+merge/66368
[21:34] <alecu> ralsina, yes, reactor.stop should cancel pending operations. Anyway, I'll check it tomorrow when I get to control panel on windows.
[21:35] <ralsina> alecu: ok
[21:35] <ralsina> alecu: +1 on https://code.launchpad.net/~alecu/ubuntu-sso-client/use-qtreactor/+merge/66380
[21:35] <nessita> alecu: I loved that last sentence from you!
[21:35] <dobey> nessita: 'file:///%s' % path
[21:36] <nessita> ralsina: if you still have a review slot, a trivial one: https://code.launchpad.net/~nataliabidart/ubuntuone-client/fix-803598/+merge/66383
[21:36] <ralsina> nessita: sure, kid fell asleep because he had swimming lessons today :-)
[21:36] <nessita> ralsina: I need to clean up the logs in windows a bit, if we want to debug stuff that are happening
[21:36] <ralsina> yes, the debug logs are monstrous
[21:36] <nessita> ralsina: swimming + ear infection is not a winner combo, but what do I know, I'm not a parent :-D
[21:37] <ralsina> nessita: earplugs!
[21:37] <nessita> ah!
[21:37] <nessita> dobey: @more
[21:37] <alecu> :-)
[21:37] <ralsina> It's that or he was not going to school
[21:37]  * ralsina was a competitive swimmer with chronic ear infections for ohh.... 3 years.
[21:38] <dobey> nessita: it doesn't like having 4 slashes
[21:38] <ralsina> nessita: +1 seems trivial to me
[21:38] <nessita> dobey: you fixing please?
[21:38] <nessita> dobey: nessita reviews
[21:38] <ralsina> that should use urljoin instead of %
[21:39]  * alecu was a /competent/ swimmer once upon a time.
[21:39] <dobey> nessita: yes, filing a bug and fixing
[21:39] <nessita> dobey: thanks!
[21:39] <ralsina> alecu: well, I competed, doesn't mean I won much ;-)
[21:39] <alecu> ralsina, I know you competed, was just joking :-)
[21:40] <ralsina> alecu: :-)
[21:41] <dobey> swimming is for fish
[21:42] <ralsina> dobey: fishes are for eating. Therefore, swiming is for eating?
[21:42] <dobey> things that swim are for eating
[21:43] <dobey> also, some things that don't swim
[21:44] <ralsina> the saying here is "anything that walks can be barbecued". Then again, we do barbecue fish also.
[21:45] <dobey> well, some fish can walk
[21:45] <dobey> so it's a win
[21:46] <nessita> alecu: any special instruction to install qt4reactor on windows? or just install git and clone inside the repo?
[21:46] <ralsina> nessita: installing git on windows is not exactly trivial :-(
[21:47] <dobey> download snapshot tarball from github
[21:47] <dobey> extract, move on
[21:47] <nessita> dobey: makes sense, thanks
[21:48] <ralsina> alecu: merge failed with lint about qt4 reactor import error
[21:49] <alecu> nessita, since I share my linux fs with the VM, I just symlink the cloned folder.
[21:49] <nessita> alecu: ah...
[21:49] <alecu> nessita, I guess that you can install it on lib/site-packages
[21:49] <nessita> right
[21:55] <nessita> ok, I'm eoding now since I need to cook dinner for some guests
[21:55] <nessita> see ya tomorrow, crowd!
[21:55]  * nessita will send report in a few minutes
[21:55] <alecu> bye!
[21:59] <ralsina> bye nessita!
[22:31] <thisfred> dog o'clock!
[22:31] <thisfred> later all
[22:33] <dobey> nessita: https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntu-sso-client/fix-urlerror/+merge/66392 is trivial when you see it. :)
[22:33] <dobey> ok, i am off. good evening all!
[22:42] <Monotoko> hey guys...has Ubuntu One Contact for the iPhone been pulled?
[22:52] <beuno> Monotoko, it has
[22:52] <Monotoko> beuno, ahhh...how come?
[22:54] <beuno> Monotoko, http://voices.canonical.com/ubuntuone/?p=943
[22:56] <Monotoko> beuno, I see...thank you very much


[12:43] <x-Na> Hi guys, I'm still asking if anyone has come across Gnome-shell having a possible memory leak
[12:43] <x-Na> Been watching for an hour and the memory consumption has gone from about 6% to 11%
[12:43] <x-Na> And it just keeps going up
[12:52] <x-Na> Seems to happen if someone else logs on to the machine and the vt is changed, it stops hogging the memory after vt changes back to the original
[13:36] <mgedmin> that seems fast
[13:37] <mgedmin> what gnome-shell version?
[13:55] <LinDol> hi all
[14:30] <x-Na> 3.18.2
[14:30] <x-Na> Now it's 29,7%
[14:31] <x-Na> A bit over 2 gigs
[14:32] <x-Na> And it really seems to slow down once I switch back to the VT I am logged in
[14:32] <mgedmin> I assume alt-f2 r helps (temporarily)?
[14:33] <x-Na> Yes
[14:33] <x-Na> But the weird thing is that it happens only for me, not for any of the other users of the same computer
[14:34] <mgedmin> do you have any shell extensions?
[14:36] <x-Na> I actually went so far that I disabled all the extensions and even recreated my home directory to get fresh settings
[14:37] <x-Na> So no extensions
[14:44] <mgedmin> at this point I've exausted my knowledge
[14:44]  * mgedmin inserts the missng h
[14:44] <mgedmin> augh ok can't sp4ell, time to log off
[14:44] <mgedmin> but before that, I was going to suggest #gnome-shell on irc.gnome.org, where all the shell developers live
[14:56] <sammo> Trying to get gnome keyring working in epiphany on 15.10 (So I can save passwords). Any ideas? (I couldn't find any current bugs on launchpad)? Some sites work but others don't show the save password dialog and there is no way to manually add passwords that I know of...
[20:53] <Guest42488> can someone help me out with installing Ubuntu Gnome 15.10?
[20:56] <radon_> I'm trying to install 15.10 onto my Macbook from a cd I burned
[20:57] <radon_> Once it boots, I hit "Try Ubuntu Gnome" and it processes stuff for a few seconds, and then this pops onto the screen
[20:57] <radon_> A start job is running for Wait for Plymouth Boot Screen to Quit
[20:57] <radon_> and doesnt go past it
[20:59] <radon_> anyone who knows what going on?


[01:55] <rick_> Having issues with lvpnc, I can stop it with "service lvpnc stop", How can I keep it from starting at boot?
[01:57] <rjdohnert> remove it from /etc/init.d
[01:58] <rjdohnert> If it starts with KDE disable it using the Startup and Shutdown utility in system settings
[02:03] <rick_> what is it called in the service manager? I don't see lvpnc listed
[02:16] <rick_> I gave this a try, edit  /etc/default/openvpn| changed AUTOSTART=none, I'll reboot and see if that fixes it, else /etc/init.d/lvpnc is going to the trash
[04:52] <jalcine> I've been having issues with my power management tools not changing the monitor brightness
[04:52] <jalcine> it's fixed at 90% and won't drop below that
[04:52] <jalcine> or higher
[04:54] <jalcine> yeah, it's fixed at 91.000 according to xbacklight
[05:47] <dragu_> hi, any fix known to mysql-server problem on kubuntu 13.04 after update?
[07:16] <dragu_> hi, any fix known to mysql-server problem on kubuntu 13.04 after update?
[07:20] <valorie> dragu_: do you have a bug number?
[07:22] <dragu_> valorie: I don't, should I and how to get one?
[07:23] <dragu_> I would like to install mysql-server-5.1, but apt-get remove mysql-server-core-5.5 trying delete 3/4 of my kubuntu
[07:25] <twager> Error 5: dependency not met: gawk not found in path.
[07:25] <twager> For distribution installation package names and missing apps information, run: inxi --recommends
[07:26] <valorie> and what did inxi --recommends say?
[07:28] <valorie> dragu_: so you are trying to downgrade?
[07:28] <dragu_> valorie: yes, to working version
[07:29] <twager> valorie: Told me inxi was not installed
[07:31] <valorie> and inxi isn't available for raring, according to ubottu
[07:31] <valorie> hmmm
[07:31] <dragu_> valorie: http://pastebin.com/nxdPCtgL
[07:31] <twager> CPU~Dual core AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ (-MCP-) clocked at 1000.000 Mhz Kernel~3.10.0-6-generic i686 Up~14 min Mem~324.9/4033.1MB HDD~580.1GB(-) Procs~141 Client~Quassel [M] v0.9.0 (dist-3b9dd10) inxi~1.7.31
[07:32] <valorie> hmmm, I've seen one other report of this
[07:32] <twager> valorie: I using Saucy
[07:32] <Tm_T> dragu_: I wonder why you would like to downgrade mysql
[07:32] <valorie> it seems worthwhile to file or at least search for a bug report
[07:33] <valorie> I mean, you have the list, so you *could* go ahead, and then re-add those packages, but that seems very risky to me
[07:33] <dragu_> valorie: because 5.5 doesn't work http://pastebin.com/VhRni081
[07:34] <jussi> twager: is that in quassel?
[07:34]  * valorie has done something silly like that before
[07:34] <twager> jussi: It is..
[07:34] <jussi> inxi is included in quassel. you need to install gawk
[07:34] <jussi> !info gawk
[07:36] <twager> jussi: apt-get install inxi install it
[07:40] <twager> !seen dutchy
[07:45] <Nilli> I'm using a Kubuntu 12.04 live USB stick now, trying to install a game into my home folder.. Dolphin says I have 2.6 GiB free (when I'm in the game's installation folder) but the game says there's not enough space. I did "cat /dev/urandom > file.txt" to see how little I had, but it kept going beyond what the game says it requires..
[07:46] <Nilli> does anyone know if I should've installed the game in a better folder somewhere, or what else could be wrong?
[07:50] <Nilli> I also did "df -h" and every line listed has enough space for this game besides "/rofs" and "/run/lock"
[07:52] <Nilli> oh, I just noticed that the amount missing is growing if I just wait between tries... at first it said it needed an additional 78 MB, then I waited and on the next try it needed an additional 80 MB... this should be a good clue, but I don't know what to do with it.
[07:55] <hateball> Nilli: well when you run live your disk is your RAM...
[07:56] <hateball> well, vice versa
[07:56] <Nilli> but things I place in my home folder stay permanently on the USB stick
[08:01] <Nilli> and even so... "free -m" shows way more than this game should ever need... >_<
[08:01] <hateball> Nilli: Yes, but that's because the stick has a partition for /home. *all* your RAM does not get allocated for the live-session, otherwise you could not run anything at all :)
[08:02] <hateball> provided the stick is large enough, you could install a permanent environment on it, but it would be terribly slow
[08:03] <Nilli> since I have permanent settings and files on it, I thought that's what I have done
[08:04] <hateball> hmmm, I see you said install game to the home folder... do you mean unpacking it from the internet or using the package manager?
[08:04] <Nilli> I believe it's a 16 GB stick but I failed when installing it so I only allocated 4 GB to it... is there a way for me to install a new Kubuntu on it from the stick itself? I don't have access to this computer's software so I can only use the hardware thanks to the stick
[08:05] <Nilli> I downloaded an install.sh from the game's website, it installed its own "launcher", and when I run the launcher I believe it attempts to download patch files. it's an mmo.
[08:06] <Nilli> I told it to install itself in ~/Games/
[08:07] <hateball> alright, then it should work I think. And no you cant install on top of your running session. If you had another stick however...
[08:09] <Nilli> ah.. so if I boot from something else, mount this as a storage device and then install on it, it could work.. but wouldn't another stick run into the same memory issue?
[08:19] <Nilli> gonna try reboot and see if that frees up enough MB just to get past this threshold.. might be back later
[08:20] <Nilli> thanks for your time hateball
[08:23] <hateball> oh s/he left
[08:28] <xxl> ?
[08:30] <mmdsy> ///
[09:02] <RaymondTracer> I need a hand
[09:03] <RaymondTracer> I cant seem to launch anything from Terminal
[09:03] <RaymondTracer> Always get an error along the lines of "unable to open display ":0""
[09:07] <RaymondTracer> Its fustrating because I cant launch Gparted and I usually use that to see what drive is what
[09:08] <twager> CPU~Dual core AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ (-MCP-) clocked at 1000.000 Mhz Kernel~3.10.0-6-generic i686 Up~13 min Mem~599.9/4033.1MB HDD~580.1GB(0.6% used) Procs~145 Client~Quassel [M] v0.9.0 (dist-3b9dd10) inxi~1.7.31
[09:14] <RaymondTracer> Nevermind, Discovered UXTerminal can still launch programs
[09:41] <OttovonBismarck> My time is borked, all timezones display as UTC
[09:42] <OttovonBismarck> Current default time zone: 'Australia/Sydney'
[09:42] <OttovonBismarck> Local time is now:      Mon Aug 12 09:41:57 UTC 2013.
[09:42] <OttovonBismarck> Universal Time is now:  Mon Aug 12 09:41:57 UTC 2013.
[09:42] <OttovonBismarck> this is the output from reconfiguring tzdata
[09:44] <OttovonBismarck> sudo ntpdate -q pool.ntp.orgserver <IP_ADDRESS>, stratum 3, offset 0.011155, delay 0.05205
[09:44] <OttovonBismarck> server <IP_ADDRESS>, stratum 3, offset 0.004126, delay 0.03468
[09:44] <OttovonBismarck> server <IP_ADDRESS>, stratum 2, offset 0.015012, delay 0.03456
[09:44] <OttovonBismarck> server <IP_ADDRESS>, stratum 3, offset 0.003781, delay 0.06224
[09:44] <OttovonBismarck> 12 Aug 09:43:46 ntpdate[3097]: adjust time server <IP_ADDRESS> offset 0.015012 sec
[09:44] <FloodBotK1> OttovonBismarck: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:44] <OttovonBismarck> that's hardly a flood
[09:44] <OttovonBismarck> ntp works fine but KDE seems to insist everything is UTC
[09:45] <OttovonBismarck> i can change my timezone to anywhere and the time displays as UTC
[09:48] <RaymondTracer> I hate how Steam has trading cards now
[09:49] <RaymondTracer> Been playing games on Windows for ages now
[09:49] <RaymondTracer> Its nice to come back to Linux
[10:02] <OttovonBismarck> force reinstalling tzdata seems to have fixed it
[16:42] <topoi> hello, can anyone help me with a Kmail problem?
[16:45] <topoi> Am I in the wrong place or something? No one chatting...
[16:46] <Pici> No one else is having any issues. Kubuntu is perfect ;)
[16:46] <topoi> Pici, nice try ;)
[16:46] <Shaan7> ah perfeKt you mean? :P
[16:47] <topoi> Well, Kubuntu is the closest to that I've experienced so far... but still annoying as hell when basic things stop working!
[16:49] <topoi> <3 Kubuntu; H8 Kmail
[17:24] <darki2010> hallo
[17:24] <genii> Hello darki2010
[17:35] <ss_haze> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5978107/
[17:35] <ss_haze> anybody knows why this happens lately
[17:35] <ss_haze> ?
[17:37] <genii> ss_haze: Try putting a space between "transform" and "-i"
[17:39] <ss_haze> [filter_transform.so] critical: cannot open input file test.mp4.trf!
[17:40] <ss_haze> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5978117/
[17:40] <ss_haze> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5978126/
[17:46] <genii> ss_haze: Did you also put a space between "xvid" and "-o" ?
[17:47] <ss_haze> [filter_transform.so] critical: cannot open input file test.mp4.trf!
[17:48] <ss_haze> I could use these commands from terminal in past
[18:12] <ss_haze> genii somehow I managed to do it
[18:20] <topoi> does anyone know how i can get Kmail to _actually_ remember my IMAP password?
[18:20] <topoi> it won't behave
[18:31] <topoi> any Pure Data users on here also?
[21:25] <ronnoc> Hi all. Quick ? - Do the Phased Updates that Canonical is rolling out affect all flavors? (I'm assuming yes) http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/08/phased-updates-to-start-rolling-out-for-ubuntu-13-04
[22:41] <Pibble> Yay commandline... D:
[23:13] <Basstard`> Where do I set to show updates for either the next LTS, the next STS, or nothing at all in 12.04?
[23:14] <genii> Basstard`: /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[23:24] <Basstard`> genii: Ah, hm, update-manager-core & -kde wasn't installed. Are they installed by default in 12.04?
[23:27] <Pibble> O.o
[23:28]  * Pibble pokes muon update manager
[23:29] <genii> Basstard`: I don't know if they are part of the base install or not, sorry.
[23:29] <Pibble> wooo 10kb worth of updates
[23:34] <Basstard`> Ah, seems Muon is the default for Kubuntu 12.04 which pulls update-manager-kde & -core whereas Apper does not.


[04:00] <mup> Bug #1507434 opened: Commissioning multiple VM's with Virsh power type results on vm's never powered on <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1507434>
[04:00] <mup> Bug #1507435 opened: no more ip addresses may cause cluster crush <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1507435>
[13:29] <mup> Bug #1507586 opened: previous owner of node can use oauth creds to retrieve current owner's user-data <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1507586>
[14:53] <mup> Bug #1507630 opened: Internal server error when configuring dynamic range to have fewer than 2 addresses <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1507630>
[16:05] <mup> Bug #1507670 opened: Host maps are updated synchronously <tech-debt> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1507670>
[16:08] <mup> Bug #1507670 changed: Host maps are updated synchronously <tech-debt> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1507670>
[16:11] <mup> Bug #1507670 opened: Host maps are updated synchronously <tech-debt> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1507670>
[18:18] <mup> Bug #1507712 opened: cli: maas logout causes KeyError for other profiles <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1507712>
[18:48] <mup> Bug #1507724 opened: MAAS should use secure disk erase, when possible <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1507724>
[19:18] <pmatulis> can i configure dns/named with impunity or must maas know about those changes? specifically i want to set up a forwarder
[19:38] <kiko> :)
[19:39] <kiko> (not just for ubuntu!)
[19:51] <mup> Bug #1507745 opened: feature request:  quick disk erase <ceph> <openstack> <uosci> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1507745>
[20:00] <mup> Bug #1507757 opened: VMware power control fails when passwords contain special characters <landscape> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1507757>
[20:12] <mup> Bug #1507757 changed: VMware power control fails when passwords contain special characters <landscape> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1507757>
[20:21] <mup> Bug #1507757 opened: VMware power control fails when passwords contain special characters <landscape> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1507757>


[09:05] <kraut> moin
[13:00] <zul_> @schedule montreal
[13:00] <ubotu> Schedule for America/Montreal: 22 Nov 09:00: Desktop Team Development | 23 Nov 07:00: MOTU meeting | 29 Nov 09:00: Desktop Team Development
[20:10] <zul> .wub 11'