[05:52] <adrien> hey, can someone re-trigger https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/request.cgi?release=lunar&arch=ppc64el&package=exim4&trigger=anacron/2.3-36ubuntu2 ? it looks like a failure in the preparation steps
[05:57] <adrien> and unrelated to anacron/exim4, these two for libcamera:  https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/request.cgi?release=lunar&arch=arm64&package=libcamera&trigger=libcamera%2F0.0.4-2ubuntu2 and https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/request.cgi?release=lunar&arch=ppc64el&package=libcamera&trigger=libcamera%2F0.0.4-2ubuntu2
[06:06] <ginggs> adrien: .
[06:16] <adrien> thanks
[07:29] <vpa1977> Hi, would it be possible to retry tests for rust-alloc-stdlib, the issue that was preventing migration was fixed in rust-brotli-decompressor 2.3.4-1 which just got published.
[07:29] <vpa1977> https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/request.cgi?release=lunar&arch=amd64&package=rust-brotli-decompressor&trigger=rust-alloc-stdlib%2F0.2.2-1
[07:29] <vpa1977> https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/request.cgi?release=lunar&arch=arm64&package=rust-brotli-decompressor&trigger=rust-alloc-stdlib%2F0.2.2-1
[07:29] <vpa1977> https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/request.cgi?release=lunar&arch=armhf&package=rust-brotli-decompressor&trigger=rust-alloc-stdlib%2F0.2.2-1
[07:29] <vpa1977> https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/request.cgi?release=lunar&arch=ppc64el&package=rust-brotli-decompressor&trigger=rust-alloc-stdlib%2F0.2.2-1
[07:29] <vpa1977> https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/request.cgi?release=lunar&arch=s390x&package=rust-brotli-decompressor&trigger=rust-alloc-stdlib%2F0.2.2-1
[07:29] <vpa1977> Thank you!!!
[07:35] <ginggs> vpa1977: 'rmadison librust-brotli-decompressor-dev' says too soon
[07:43] <vpa1977> ginggs: oh
[08:12] <ginggs> vpa1977: rmadison says yes
[08:13] <ginggs> vpa1977: i did './retry-autopkgtest-regressions --blocks rust-alloc-stdlib'
[08:15] <vpa1977> gings: thanks!!!
[16:21] <lvoytek> mdeslaur: Hi, a few bugs have come up in Samba since the security update two days ago. It seems things are breaking in Focal currently -
[16:21] <lvoytek> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/2009858
[16:21] <lvoytek> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/2009863
[16:21] -ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2009858 in samba (Ubuntu Focal) "User authentication is broken with 2:4.15.13+dfsg-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> package" [Critical, Confirmed]
[16:21] -ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2009863 in samba (Ubuntu Focal) "Upgrade from Samba 4.13 to 4.15 results in 'dlopen(pam_winbind.so): /lib/security/pam_winbind.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory'" [Critical, New]
[16:21] <mdeslaur> lvoytek: I saw them, and I can't reproduce them
[16:21] <mdeslaur> lvoytek: if anyone has an idea why they are having issues, I'm all ears
[16:22] <mdeslaur> let me ask for more info in the bugs
[16:45] <rbasak> sil2100, vorlon: I did wait for someone to notice and fix it first. But I got fed up of deleting emails from my main inbox by hand, and wasn't keen on spending effort on setting up procmail over fixing it for others too
[16:59] <coreycb> ginggs: thanks, I just built the new jinja2 and I'm not seeing any need for plastex
[17:00] <ginggs> coreycb: plastex 2.1-3's autopkgtests will fail with the new jinja2
[17:01] <coreycb> ginggs: ok
[17:07] <vorlon> rbasak: quite understandable, sorry about that
[17:24] <coreycb> ginggs: they both build successfully. can I sync them over?
[17:58] <danilogondolfo> May I ask someone to retry this test for me, please? https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/request.cgi?release=lunar&arch=amd64&package=cryptsetup&trigger=systemd/252.5-2ubuntu2&trigger=netplan.io/0.106-0ubuntu2&trigger=tinyssh/20230101-1
[18:23] <dbungert> danilogondolfo: done
[18:24] <danilogondolfo> thank you dbungert!
[19:00] <ahasenack> what's the trick to build the python3.11 source package?
[19:00] <ahasenack> dpkg-source: error: Version number suggests Ubuntu changes, but Maintainer: does not have Ubuntu address
[19:00] <ahasenack> $ update-maintainer
[19:00] <ahasenack> XSBC-Original is managed by 'rules' file.


[07:55] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:12]  * Mirv progressing with the arm64 problems
[10:27] <Mirv> yofel: ok I've fixed arm64 builds of a about 8 packages which I think completes those. or at least to the extent I can do the builds I need for Qt 5.5
[11:43] <Mirv> actually, I'll continue beyond my immediate needs since I see more of the arm64 builds needing to be done like oxygen, breeze, ..
[11:48] <Mirv> and 15 more :P
[11:57] <Mirv> yeah, it seems everything until kwin at least just migrated to release pocket. you're welcome.
[11:58] <Mirv> probably more after those queued ones finish, but I'll also probably publish the Qt within an hour or two if nothing shows up.
[11:59] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:48] <Mirv> ok another 10+ arm64 builds fixed, I'll rest that effort for now. some might still succeed with the remaining queued rebuilds, but some have failed due to the dependency chains
[13:54] <Mirv> Qt 5.5.1 is published to xenial \o/
[13:57] <yofel> \o/
[13:57] <yofel> thanks
[14:47] <sgclark> clivejo: no sorry I got nowhere on frameworks, my internet was down all of yesterday.
[19:16] <clivejo> Riddell: ping
[19:16] <Riddell> hi clivejo
[19:16] <clivejo> howdy
[19:16] <clivejo> can I try working on kamoso?
[19:17] <clivejo> or have you it done and dusted
[19:17] <Riddell> sure go ahead
[19:18] <clivejo> I see a xenial archive branch for purpose
[19:18] <clivejo> is it in KCI now?
[19:18] <Riddell> I don't know
[19:18] <clivejo> seems to be :/
[19:18] <clivejo> http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_purpose/
[19:32] <clivejo> Riddell: I created a new ppa for calligra so I dont have to upload the source over and over, to build 2.9.9 on vivid I needed libwps 0.4 which doesnt seem to be in vivid, do you know why?
[19:48] <clivejo> something really messed up with i386 on KCI
[20:07] <Riddell> clivejo: well it probably wasn't released
[20:07] <clivejo> Riddell: kamoso 3.1.0 is in my xenial PPA, seems to be working :)
[20:07] <Riddell> clivejo: you can either backport libwps or just remove it as a build dep and remove the plugins that need it from the .install files
[20:09] <clivejo> I built libwps0.4 and put it in my PPA, calligra then build ok
[20:09] <clivejo> Riddell: do you use kamoso?
[20:25] <Riddell> clivejo: have done yes
[20:25] <clivejo> why does it need kde connect?
[20:50] <Riddell> clivejo: kamoso? I've no idea
[21:01] <clivejo> Riddell: are you still MOTU?
[21:01] <Riddell> clivejo: yes
[21:02] <clivejo> would you check calligra and put it in the archive if ok?
[21:03] <clivejo> also, would you know who I need to get to sponsor me for a KDE bouncer?
[21:19] <sgclark> clivejo: I sponsered you.
[21:19] <sgclark> sponsored rather
[21:19] <clivejo> do I need to do something?
[21:19] <sgclark> I would set you up but I have nt learned that sysadmin bit yet.
[21:19] <sgclark> nope
[21:20] <sgclark> I am a kde sysadmin in training lol
[21:20] <sgclark> Ben is in Australia so likely still asleep
[21:20] <sgclark> though should be up soon (tm)
[21:21] <clivejo> ok, thanks
[23:34] <keithzg> Uhh, so someone in #kubuntu just pointed out that kubuntu.org appears to be down, and I see "Error establishing a database connection" myself when I try to load it.
[23:34] <clivejo> same here
[23:35] <clivejo> ahoneybun ovidiu-florin ^^
[23:37] <yofel> WFM
[23:38] <clivejo> back agian
[23:38] <yofel> server maintenance I guess
[23:39] <keithzg> kubuntu.org is back for me too, yeah, must've just been momentary maintenance.
[23:55] <clivejo> yofel: you are very quiet this last while, you ok?


[14:16] <xu-help12w> HI
[14:16] <gnrp> xu-help12w: hi
[14:17] <xu-help12w> JE NE VOIS PAS CECI :  → Paramètres → Utilisateurs et groupes.
[14:18] <gnrp> !fr
[14:29] <xu-help12w> I DON'T SEE THIS: → Settings → Users and Groups.
[14:30] <gnrp> what does it mean, you don't see it? Is it not in the settings menu, or it does not open?
[14:44] <xu-help12w> NOT IN THE SETTING MENU
[14:48] <gnrp> xu-help12w: If oyu try to open it directly? I.e., search in the menu for Users and Groups?
[14:49] <xu-help12w> I was advised to reinstall Gnome gnome-shell
[14:50] <gnrp> uhm, for xubuntu?
[14:51] <xu-help12w> xubuntu
[14:51] <gnrp> yeah. Gnome-shell should not be installed at all on xubuntu unless you really want to use it
[14:51] <xu-help12w> why ?
[14:51] <xu-help12w> only need to add a user
[14:58] <gnrp> ou cna also do this with the useradd command
[14:59] <gnrp> https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/fr/man8/adduser.8.html
[14:59] <xu-help12w> i've tried
[14:59] <xu-help12w> thanks
[15:04] <xu-help12w> want to change root paswd
[15:11] <xu-help12w> found this --> https://linuxconfig.org/default-root-password-on-ubuntu-20-04-focal-fossa-linux
[15:11] <xu-help12w> thnkas again
[16:00] <xu-irc65w> Hello there so I'm not sure if I'm doing this correctly. But any help would be greatly appreciated. About a year ago I got a Dell laptop from a online school program and after completing said program they sent a deprovisioning key everything went well with that process. Needless to say I only used the computer maybe once after the fact. Now I have
[16:00] <xu-irc65w> begun new classes and need the laptop but do not have the password. And ultimately I'm not sure that I made an actual account is there any way that I could possibly get this figured out so that I can use my laptop again.
[22:41] <slashfantastic> Hello, i'm new to Xubuntu and enjoying it so far, but when changing the appearance some windows have a really distracting gradient on the top bar, and i'm not sure how to change this or turn it off, i'll show an example
[22:46] <slashfantastic> it won't let me upload it on here :'(  - does anyone know how to fix it? it only appears on dark themes
[22:47] <gnrp> !upload
[22:47] <gnrp> hmm
[22:47] <gnrp> !paste
[22:50] <slashfantastic> https://imgur.com/E6ilCzj.png
[22:50] <slashfantastic> its the title bar at the very top (sorry, i've not used irc in years so bit rusty on that)
[22:52] <gnrp> which theme is this?
[22:52] <gnrp> hm, interesting. I cannot reproduce
[22:53] <gnrp> slashfantastic: Aaah. Maybe check under window management
[22:53] <slashfantastic> Qogdir-dark, but its on every dark one i try, including adwaita and greybird
[22:53] <gnrp> there the theme under "style" (I guess, I only have the German one here) does this, I think
[22:53] <gnrp> nice. Also I finally found a more compact theme. Thank you! :D
[22:55] <slashfantastic> fixed it! thank you so much, so much less annoying now
[22:55] <gnrp> also, please install an adblocker ;)
[23:07] <slashfantastic> done and done lol
[23:07] <gnrp> lol, good^^


[12:19] <derekS> JulienH: np
[12:09] <ubijtsa> fabbione: who looks after the network base stuff in dapper?
[12:11] <ubijtsa> fabbione: no worry, I see the guy got an answer in the end..
[12:13] <spike> hi there
[12:54] <ubijtsa> lo spike
[01:01] <spike> ubijtsa: do you know much about wifi networks?
[01:40] <ubijtsa> spike: some.. only what I have figured out myself when messing with it, why?
[01:43] <spike> ubijtsa: trying to figure out a few things to implement a network I've been asked to design
[01:43] <ubijtsa> go ahead
[01:43] <fabbione> spike: explain the problem :)
[01:43] <fabbione> the worst case you will have no solution
[01:44] <spike> the thing is I cant really find something in between WPA+PSK and WPA+EAP(EAP-TLS/PEAP)+Radius
[01:44] <spike> for them it would be enough WPA2+randomized keys
[01:44] <spike> but I'm not sure how to implement that
[01:45] <ubijtsa> spike: new enough hardware has WPA2 capabilities
[01:45] <spike> another solution would be a vpn, with openvpn maybe
[01:45] <ubijtsa> best solution would be to not use encryption in the networking infrastructure if possible..
[01:45] <spike> ubijtsa: uhm, for what I've read, I cant see how WPA2 helps with random keys
[01:46] <ubijtsa> frees/wan should be better
[01:46] <spike> ubijtsa: ipsec?
[01:46] <spike> oh, k, I c
[01:46] <ubijtsa> yes, ipsec. problem is, Windows require 3DES if you run ipsec
[01:47] <spike> that's why I mentioned openswan above
[01:47] <ubijtsa> unless very recent versions of windows finally got AES support
[01:47] <spike> eer
[01:47] <spike> s/openswan/opnevpn
[01:47] <ubijtsa> if you need to use 3DES, you will require a fairly hefty server
[01:48] <ubijtsa> AES is less heavy on the old cpu :)
[01:48] <spike> anyway, this was already a known solution, but what about alternatives?
[01:49] <spike> isnt there anything to have random keys with WPA without implementing EAP/radius stuff?
[01:49] <spike> I couldnt find much around
[01:50] <spike> ubijtsa: and why would you advise the use of ipsec/vpn? WPA2 appears to be failry secure (I've read about wpa cracking attempts)
[01:51] <ubijtsa> personal preference I guess
[01:51] <ubijtsa> with frees/wan, you have security that you know works
[01:52] <ubijtsa> with the stuff in the wireless kit, you don't know if there are backdoors
[01:53] <ubijtsa> depends what you are trying to do, if you want it bulletproof or not
[01:53] <spike> wireless kit? you mean the sw coming with the AP?
[01:53] <spike> s/coming with/on
[01:53] <ubijtsa> aye
[01:54] <spike> ubijtsa: I'm just reading up and analyzing solutions. yet I have no answer for the WPA2+random keys solution... I'm wondering if anything like that actually exists
[01:54] <spike> everybody seems to go either with vpn or WPA+EAP+RADIUS
[01:54] <spike> instead of basic WPA+PSK of course
[01:55] <ubijtsa> 802.1x is probably good enough
[01:55] <spike> yeah, but it sounds a bit overkill for this scenario
[01:55] <ubijtsa> if it leaves room to grow... ;)
[01:56] <spike> yeah, but assuming something like WPA + random keys exists it'd be easier to implement.. I'm not gonna do the two for the same price :)
[01:56] <spike> and since it'd be enough for 'em, proposing both solutions sounds like the best thing to do
[01:59] <ubijtsa> draft a proposal for an easy, a medium and a large solution...
[02:00] <ubijtsa> let them pick what they want. :)
[02:00] <spike> eeer, that's what I said, yes, and the point of my whole question is exactly the intermediate solution I cant find (excluding the vpn one)
[02:01] <ubijtsa> I see..
[02:01] <spike> compared to WPA2+PSK and WPA2+EAP+RADIUS the obvious intermediate solution to me seems WPA2+Random keys, but cant really find anything about it
[02:02] <ubijtsa> I thought the PSK stuff was the random key solution.
[02:11] <spike> a "bit" :)
[02:11] <spike> I'm gonna grab some pizza to help the thinking, brb
[02:16] <ubijtsa> :)
[02:31] <spike> eheh, I love to read rants like this while eating ;)
[02:31] <spike> http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/ThePerilsofJavaSchools.html
[02:31] <ubijtsa> grin
[02:33] <spike> said is, none of my employer ever spoken like that to me... :/
[02:33] <spike> so it seems there' s a real shortage on both sides
[02:34] <spike> s/said/sad/
[02:34] <spike> eeh, wait, employer is the one that gets employed or the one employing someone, ie doing recruiting?
[02:44] <tepsipakki> employer employs employees ;)
[02:48] <spike> tepsipakki: tnx :)
[02:48] <spike> brb, moving to another site
[04:44] <ealden> MarioMeyer: ping
[05:12] <MarioMeyer> ealden, pong
[05:55] <E0x> the forum is down ?
[05:55] <E0x> ( again )
[08:22] <paul_> hi all!
[08:23] <paul_> i am running ubuntu for quite a while now and am very happy with it's server performance. right now i am looking to replace an M$ streamingserver for an opensource server.
[08:24] <paul_> does anyone know about a streamingserver (deamon) for ubuntu?
[11:34] <segfault> vai levando com naturalidade
[11:34] <segfault> ops


[13:40] <skellat> Good morning all
[13:41] <skellat> Apparently we've expired out as being an approved team
[13:42] <skellat> Members of the High Council should contact me as soon as possible with statements for The Burning Circle.
[13:43] <paultag> skellat: they're undergoing re-approval now, I doubt that's anything but something that needs to be fixed by the LC in short order
[13:43] <paultag> skellat: and it's LC policy to keep teams approved until they vote
[13:43] <paultag> so if it expired, it's likely a mistake.
[13:44] <skellat> Let us hope
[13:44] <skellat> In that case, I'm just going to suspend the Burning Circle until we hear either way from the LC
[13:44] <skellat> Or maybe I should keep going
[13:44] <paultag> I know the Ohio team is going through re-app now
[13:44] <skellat> Darn
[13:44] <paultag> this is likely a non-event
[13:45] <skellat> Lets hope
[13:45] <skellat> Alrighty
[13:45] <skellat> I still proceed with the original plan for BC88 then
[13:45] <paultag> :)
[13:45] <paultag> alright, bbl, gotta find some coffee in this hotel
[13:45] <skellat> Which was going to be a discussion of what the SABDFL said and why it might actually be a good thing for opening up some of these skunkworks projects
[13:46] <skellat> Which, frankly, the Amazon lens was one of
[13:46] <skellat> paultag: Go get your coffee...I still gotta get ready for church
[13:46] <skellat> Later all
[13:46] <paultag> godspeed
[17:42] <thafreak> so, im at a preschool bday party w/one of my kids
[17:43] <thafreak> free coffee and wifi, so can't complain too much
[17:44] <thafreak> they know how to please parents....lots of people with ipads
[17:44] <thafreak> i think i'm the only one on IRC over a vpn from an android tablet ;)
[17:47] <thafreak> so, even if weget deactivated, we still get to keep this chat room right?
[17:48] <thafreak> well, think my kid's about done...later all
[17:49] <drkokandy> why would we get deactivated?
[17:49] <drkokandy> sorry, I'm new :-/
[20:55] <skellat> itsafork Cheri703 gilbert -- PING -- Please read this<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:57] <Cheri703> thafreak: we're in process on reapproval
[20:58] <Cheri703> waiting on the LC actually, so...we've done our part, waiting on them.
[21:16] <Cheri703> sent to mailing list, pasting here as well:
[21:16] <Cheri703> The re-approval process is in progress. Gilbert submitted the application, we got a round of questions from one of the LoCo Council members, Gilbert replied, and now we're just waiting for any signs of life to continue the process.. The delay is not on the part of U-Ohio. It is not the end of the world. I've spoken with Laura Czajkowski of the LoCo Council who mentioned that this week was the new release, so things are pretty crazy, and that
[21:16] <Cheri703>  is part of why there's been a bit of a delay. She is going to follow up with people and make sure that it gets dealt with this week. This is not a huge deal. The mailing list, IRC room, forums, all stay intact even as we've "expired" from the approved teams list. Everything is totally fine.


[21:10] <thafreak> anyone else's updates/downloads crawling lately?
[21:10] <thafreak> I was fetching ubuntu beta iso's and i was lucky to be getting 120KB/s :/
[21:11] <thafreak> and topday updates seem to be ridiculously slow
[21:11] <thafreak> anyway....just needed to vent to probably the only other people in ohio who might be seeing the same thing :)
[21:11] <thafreak> Hope you all are staying away from others
[21:19] <thafreak> whoa, nevermind, did a speed test, normally I get >100MBps, now I'm getting 6...
[21:19] <Unit193> I'm getting pretty close to full speed on http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/focal/beta/xubuntu-20.04-beta-desktop-amd64.iso
[21:19] <thafreak> Probably not ubuntu's fault lol
[21:19] <Unit193> Everyone that's staying home is watching netflix in HD.
[21:19] <thafreak> yeah, the majority of my neighborhood is on cable internet
[21:19] <thafreak> and they're ALL home
[21:20] <thafreak> :/
[21:20] <Unit193> Trynig out the GNOME beta?
[21:21] <Unit193> https://contest.xubuntu.org/wallpaper_contest/xubuntu-20-04-community-wallpaper-contest/?action=view for a little shameless plug.
[21:21] <thafreak> Trying lots of things ;)
[21:22] <thafreak> So far honestly budgie might be my favorite
[21:23] <thafreak> although since I'm a big gnome3 fan, the plain ubuntu version is actually not too bad. Still don't like that dock they stick in there by default.
[21:23] <thafreak> I really prefer the way vanilla gnome works better, but, it's not bad.
[21:23] <thafreak> I'm a system76 customer though, so I'm more interested in seeing the next pop_os
[21:24] <thafreak> But I'm looking forward to it.
[21:24] <Unit193> Someone still maintains the Ubuntu GNOME packages from before Ubuntu went back.  Meh, OK.
[21:24] <thafreak> My biggest complaint is that even though they give zfs root as an option, you can't get encrypted zfs root :(
[21:28] <dzho> thafreak: oh hey
[21:28] <dzho> just doing a quick scan of the channels before stepping afk for a bit but saw you in and figured I'd say hi
[21:28] <dzho> I didn't know that about ZFS
[21:32] <thafreak> yup
[21:33] <thafreak> it's big letters marked experimental but it works...just no encryption option :/
[21:35] <Unit193> WireGuard is baked into the kernel on 20.04, so you can use it with UEFI systems.
[22:47] <dzho> yeah I know some other people that are excited about that too
[22:49] <Unit193> Or one can continue to use the dkms module...


[05:15] <init-joe> Hey whats the process to send in an artwork to ubuntu?
[05:17] <init-joe> or atleast getting them to have a look?
[05:45] <\vish> !contribute | inuit-joe
[05:46] <inuit-joe> \vish: ty
[05:46] <\vish> inuit-joe: what's you main interest ? wallpapaers/themes/icons?
[05:46] <\vish> wallpapers*
[05:47] <inuit-joe> \vish: Wallpapers.
[05:47] <\vish> inuit-joe: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Lucid/Wallpaper_Contest_Planning
[05:48] <inuit-joe> \vish: TY bro
[05:48] <\vish> np
[05:48]  * inuit-joe sigh, i guess i have to make a flikr account
[05:50] <\vish> inuit-joe: you could also submit to the mailing list with a mention about the copyright... kwwii is the lead
[05:50] <\vish> artwork lead*
[05:51] <\vish> but flickr is easier ;)
[05:51] <inuit-joe> Mks, flikr it is
[05:52] <inuit-joe> \vish: bbl
[07:01] <inuit-joe> Does anyone like this? http://inuit-joe.deviantart.com/art/Lucid-Lynx-wallpaper-148882918