[14:11] <jakiw> how do i stop running mysql-servers?
[14:11] <ubuntu51> my default display is 800x600
[14:11] <ubuntu51> i want to change my display 1024x768, but i can't save into x
[14:12] <ukwiz> iflema, it sounds as though every system config is command line  - no gui interface for system configuration. Having come from a suse framework, I find it strange that what is billed as an easy system is in fact anything but
[14:12] <paolo_> bongiorno a tutti
[14:12] <LjL> !it | paolo_
[14:12] <frogzoo> jakiw: /etc/init.d/mysql-server stop
[14:12] <Karwan> !nl
[14:12] <iflema> ukwiz its linux man
[14:12] <petsounds> ubuntu51, sudo nvidia-xconfig       then    gksu nvidia-settings
[14:13] <ubuntu51> good
[14:14] <ubuntu51> it works
[14:14] <iflema> ukwiz samba is to share with winblows... away with it i say..... firewall not required... if you doing something that requires it youll know what to
[14:14] <jakiw> frogzoo: it says no such file or directory. I think i installed the MySQL-Server together with typo3
[14:14] <jackhigh> does anybody know is one can create a virtual disk inside my ext4 partition in ubuntu that i could format to wbfs ?
[14:15] <jackhigh> *if
[14:15] <NFischer> is it possible to add disk space of a new HDD to /home ?
[14:15] <evilsherpa> mount error(13): Permission denied
[14:15] <NFischer> /home/user that is
[14:15] <ukwiz> iflema,  yes, I understand it is linux, but it seems that ubuntu variant is stuck in the old days, whereas other distros have moved into the 21st century.
[14:15] <jackhigh> NFischer: you could mount it in a subfolder or create an lvm i think
[14:16]  * iflema and over all this is not windows
[14:16] <jakiw> hi, can i somehow stop/delete all running servers. I want to start my xampp, but it doesnt work because another one is running. I think that is because I earlier tried to install typo3 and it installed some mysql-server that now is running. How can I delete it so I can start my Xampp? I am using Ubuntu 9.10.
[14:16] <ubuntu51> how i can backup
[14:16] <iflema> ukwiz so
[14:16] <ikonia> jakiw: open up the package manager, search for the packages and mark them for removal
[14:16] <jackhigh> NFischer: i have never creates an lvm with an existing install only at install time im not sure how you would do it
[14:17] <ikonia> ubuntu51: backup what ?
[14:17] <nomnex> error message: One or more of the mounts listed in /etc/fstab cannot yet be mounted - help please
[14:17] <jackhigh> *created
[14:17] <jakiw> did it
[14:17] <jakiw> how do i stop running apache server??
[14:17] <ikonia> nomnex: check your mount points
[14:17] <NFischer> jackhigh, k thx
[14:17] <ikonia> jakiw: removing it will stop it
[14:17] <jakiw> ikonia: i removed all packages with typo3 (3 packages) in it, but it didnt help
[14:18] <ikonia> nomnex: look at the file /etc/fstab and walk through the mounts, see which one won't mount
[14:18] <nomnex> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/m504d53a3 it is a known bug
[14:18] <nomnex> ikonia, I don't know how to do it.
[14:18] <jakiw> so how do i stop running apache servers
[14:18] <ikonia> nomnex: if that's a known bug - why are you asking for help ?
[14:18] <chilli0> Hi
[14:18] <Astreal> q
[14:18] <ukwiz> iflema, back to opensuse I guess.
[14:19] <Astreal> aa?
[14:19] <ikonia> jakiw: open the package manager, search for apache2 and remove it, as you intitially wanted to
[14:19] <Astreal> ppc
[14:19] <nomnex> ikonia, some peole fixed it
[14:19] <ikonia> jakiw: if you had removed the packages you said you had, it wouldn't be running
[14:19] <ikonia> nomnex: who ? how do you know ?
[14:19] <Astreal> 9 s vas w woke
[14:19] <Astreal> aa
[14:19] <Astreal> fuck
[14:19] <ikonia> nomnex: show me where it is marked as a known bug
[14:19] <jakiw> ikonia: i didnt remove apache, sry, i think i mussunderstood u
[14:19] <ikonia> jakiw: ok - so remove the packages you don't need
[14:19] <nomnex> One or more of the mounts listed in /etc/fstab cannot yet be mounted - google, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mountall/+bug/459859
[14:19] <chris|> NFischer, if your new hard drive is large enough to take up the contents of your current home, create an lvm drive on the new hdd, move your files, and expand the lvm over the existing home
[14:20] <ikonia> jakiw: it will only cause you problems with xammp down the line (although why you don't use lamp that is fully supported I don't know)
[14:20] <chilli0> Ive tryed using mplayer , the default movie player and vlc. But when ever i stream a video over LAN it stalls and i gotta pasue it and wait. Its weird it doesn't buffer the whole video thoe. I waited 30mins for it to stream but it paused like 5mins later
[14:20] <nomnex> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/505751
[14:20] <MacIx> how do i get back that mail icon on the top panel row, where i deleted it before?
[14:20] <nomnex> ikona, okay?
[14:20] <MacIx> where empathy and evolution are inside :X
[14:20] <jakiw> ikonia xampp for linux is lampp, i am using lampp!
[14:21] <nastas> MacIx: just right click on the panel, then add
[14:21] <MacIx> and which one do i add?
[14:21] <nomnex> more? http://old.nabble.com/URGENT:-Problem-with-mounting-td26125463.html
[14:21] <jackhigh> so does anyone know if its possible to have a virtual hard disk inside ubuntus ext4 file system ?
[14:21] <iflema> Maclx right click on taskbar and add applet called Indicator Applet
[14:21] <NFischer> chris|, thx
[14:21] <ikonia> nomnex: the bug shows it as still not fixed
[14:21] <MacIx> thanks
[14:22] <jackhigh> i dont need a vm or anything i just need the disk i can mount read and write to etc
[14:22] <ikonia> nomnex: a fixed was released but doesn't appear to have resolved it, boot into single user mode and remove the line in /etc/fstab that's causing the problem, then mount it manually as a work around
[14:22] <jakiw> ikonia i removed 2 packages with apache2 in the name (apache2 itself wasnt even installed)...the server is still running! i think i installed it when i tried to install a CMS called typo 3 via synaptic and it just got its own server....
[14:22] <nastas> MacIx: application launcher then select an application from the menu
[14:22] <chris|> NFischer, remember to always do backups before messing with the file system ;)
[14:22] <lory80> hello
[14:22] <nomnex> ikonia, can you assist me?
[14:22] <rocket16> Hello all!
[14:22] <lory80> why each time the PC. printer does not connect - it disappears? I always CUPS server error
[14:22] <rocket16> I am from India, and use Kubuntu!
[14:23] <ikonia> nomnex: with what ?
[14:23] <rusibla_> hi, does anyone have a cached version of the poulsbo_ppa.sh script, because the download server gma500re.altervista.org is ofline due to traffic
[14:23] <NFischer> chris|, yeah, im gonna stick with mounting it to a subdictory, its cleaner
[14:23] <nomnex> I have edited the fstab with nano
[14:23] <ikonia> jakiw: so if you have removed the packages and reboot you'll find myourself in a clean state
[14:23] <ikonia> nomnex: ok, and ?
[14:23] <rocket16> Kubuntu is the best.
[14:23] <chilli0> Ive tryed using mplayer , the default movie player and vlc. But when ever i stream a video over LAN it stalls and i gotta pasue it and wait. Its weird it doesn't buffer the whole video thoe. I waited 30mins for it to stream but it paused like 5mins later
[14:23] <nastas> iflema: you're right. my bad. i thought Maclx wanted to add evolution launcher
[14:23] <nomnex> can you check the message http://pastebin.com/m504d53a3, does that give the information as what to edit?
[14:24] <BlouBlou> rocket16: kubuntu are ubuntu are the same, the difference is only kde
[14:24] <jackhigh> ---[;.k,
[14:24] <ikonia> chilli0: I suspect you're using a cheap switch / router
[14:24] <jakiw> ikonia lol, sry i made a stupid mistake... i didnt reload it just showed me the cache
[14:24] <jackhigh> ppppppppppppppppppppp
[14:24] <ikonia> chilli0: mplayer and vlc can both buffer
[14:24] <ikonia> jakiw: please stop that
[14:24] <ikonia> jakiw: sorry - not you
[14:24] <ikonia> jackhigh: please stop that
[14:24] <rocket16> BlouBlou, thanks for the reply
[14:24] <stanman246> hi, i've captured dv with kino and have seperate avi's. But when I open them in kdenlive, the audio is really bad. Playing with Totem is ok
[14:24] <rocket16> But KDE has more applications than Ubuntu
[14:24] <rocket16> I mean GNOME
[14:25] <rocket16> So, isn't KDE better than GNOME?
[14:25] <BlouBlou> rocket16: We can continue this in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[14:25] <chris|> NFischer, actually, lvm is pretty slick, if I had a say in it, I'd make it default for Ubuntu
[14:25] <ikonia> rocket16: you're entitled to your own opionion, this channel is for support though
[14:25] <pale_1> hello!!! i am traying to open port for vuze, port number is 46450, i purged all ufw , then add rules to iptables for specify port but when doing test it failed. when i try to run  netstat -an | grep "LISTEN " i see LISTENING on port 46450, any help please
[14:25] <rocket16> Sorry BlouBlou, for my mistake. PPlease excuse me all,
[14:25] <pale_1> and one more thing when doing netstat -an | grep "LISTEN " i see :::46450, on every open port above i see before port number <IP_ADDRESS>, maybe this is problem
[14:25] <chilli0> ikonia, Its not a bad router. But if it does buffer. Whyd doesnt it? ( I leaved it for 30mins came back and still paused as if i just started the video)
[14:25] <jackhigh> k--=-=pppppppp
[14:25] <ikonia> pale_1: try disabling all firewalls first of all
[14:25] <rocket16> May be I should find the offtopic channel
[14:26] <pale_1> i only now for ufw apparmor and iptables
[14:26] <ikonia> chilli0: I've seen it with poor quality switches
[14:26] <rocket16> Bye everyone
[14:26] <ikonia> pale_1: disable ufw/iptables and test it
[14:26] <chilli0> ikonia,  oh and its mounted like a harddrive. So vlc doesn't know its networked
[14:26] <pale_1> ikonia, how to disable iptables
[14:27] <chilli0> ikonia,  It takes me under 30secs to send a gig movie to the server from here.
[14:27] <ikonia> pale_1: use iptables -F or the init script to stop it
[14:27] <ikonia> chilli0: have you got enough ram to buffer ?
[14:27] <chilli0> ikonia, 4gigs and 4swap
[14:27] <nomnex> somebody to help me modifying my fstab and mount manually /home? don't know how to do it but I can follow the instructions
[14:27] <chilli0> 4gig swap *
[14:27] <ikonia> nomnex: ahh if it's /home you may not want to disable that
[14:28] <albech> does anyone else have problems with getting their address book from ubuntu one?
[14:28] <ikonia> chilli0: it should be buffering better than that, never the full movie but at least a good chunk
[14:28] <elliotsagan> Hi all!
[14:29] <pale_1> ikonia, same
[14:29] <ikonia> chilli0: not on a desktop here so I can't check, but is there options within mplayer thos is buffer options, I think there is
[14:29] <nomnex> ikonia, it is a bit above me, the error message upon boot says /home. when I run the command blkid, the home partition does not appear, only the swap and /system
[14:29] <chilli0> ikonia,  I think its because vlc doesnt know its a server. Ive mounted it like a usb or external harddrive.
[14:29] <EuSer1> hi all.
[14:29] <BlouBlou> elliotsagan: hi
[14:29] <ikonia> pale_1: then it's not a firewall problem, your application is not working
[14:29] <chilli0> ikonia,  I changed the buffer on vlc to 20gigs
[14:29] <ikonia> chilli0: that really shouldn't be a problem, but to be honest, if your playing a film from a mounted network drive and it's stalling your networking appears to be a problem
[14:29] <jakiw> so now apache starts but still some other mysql server is running?
[14:29] <pale_1> how that can be , i tray to test it through some web testers for specified port but is the same
[14:29] <elliotsagan> please, anybody to helpme how to install Avira (it comes as .tar.bz)?
[14:30] <ikonia> chilli0: 20gig is a stupid buffer, do you have 20 gig of ram ???
[14:30] <pale_1> ikonia, how that can be , i tray to test it through some web testers for specified port but is the same
[14:30] <ikonia> pale_1: if you've dropped your firewall, and it's still not responding, then the application isn't running/listening properly
[14:30] <tekkno> elliotsagan, its linux, you are already virus free ;)
[14:30] <jakiw> ikonia: so now apache starts but still some other mysql server is running?
[14:30] <babyju_> h
[14:30] <linuxman> ei pessoal estou vendo algumas questoes de concurso referente a linux e me respondam uma coisa
[14:30] <hamzaatova1> how do i bakcup the contacts in evulution?????????
[14:30] <chilli0> ikonia,  I was just testing to see if it was the buffer that was to low.
[14:30] <BlouBlou> !english | linuxman
[14:31] <elliotsagan> really? am I?
[14:31] <ikonia> jakiw: remove your mysql server
[14:31] <ikonia> !es | linuxman
[14:31] <ikonia> chilli0: 20gig is crazy though, use real life values
[14:31] <BlouBlou> ikonia: that's not spanish :)
[14:31] <jackhigh> im sorry about that i went for a smoke and it was my 2 yo som pressing buttons :S
[14:31] <chilli0> ikonia,  Does a vlc buffer if you play a file of the hard drive ?
[14:31] <jackhigh> *son
[14:31] <ikonia> BlouBlou: thank you
[14:31] <linuxman> scuse-me guys
[14:31] <ikonia> chilli0: errr...not %100 sure, I'd expect a very short buffer
[14:31] <linuxman> chanel wrong
[14:32] <chilli0> ikonia, I think it may not , but i dont know.
[14:32] <iflema> hamzaatova1 click file in the menu bar and selectbackup settings
[14:33] <scunizi>  Scunizi
[14:33] <hamzaatova1> iflema, ok--
[14:34] <iflema> hamzaatova1 notethe restore option
[14:34] <ikonia> chilli0: it should have a small read-ahead on it
[14:34] <jakiw> ikonia, thx u helped me alot
[14:35] <ikonia> jakiw: no problem
[14:36] <scunizi> good moring ikonia
[14:36] <ikonia> hi
[14:36] <erUSUL> !aptlock > erUSUL
[14:37] <chilli0> ikonia, Mmm. Well. How could possably not load after 30mins
[14:37] <elliotsagan> anybody to tell me the correct MSN server to get connectec with Empathy? TIA
[14:38] <ikonia> chilli0: a very good question
[14:39] <chilli0> ikonia, Its also only about 120mbs ( a tv show )
[14:39] <krzysztof> ale pustki :(
[14:39] <chilli0> Running ethernet
[14:40] <novato_br> what is wrong? I want to install ubuntu under partition layout ==> http://images.cjb.net/3d5ce.png
[14:40] <novato_br> and I can't
[14:40] <novato_br> I can't do that
[14:40] <novato_br> why?
[14:40] <ikonia> chilli0: if you copy it locally and run it does it play ok ?
[14:40] <chilli0> ikonia,  Yes.
[14:40] <chilli0> But when doing same with big movies and what not. it gets long.
[14:40] <novato_br> vagas me ajudem
[14:40] <novato_br> what is wrong?
[14:41] <novato_br> doesn't ubuntu recognize there are parititions on disk?
[14:41] <ikonia> chilli0: where is the disk mounted from, a windows box over samba, another linux box on NFS etc
[14:41] <ahayzen> @novato_br what version of ubuntu are you running?
[14:41] <novato_br> 8.04
[14:41] <chilli0> ikonia,  The other box is running ubuntu 8.04
[14:41] <novato_br> I want to install this version on system pre-configurated
[14:42] <ikonia> chilli0: how are you mounting it ?
[14:42] <chilli0> ikonia,  Just using the share file option.
[14:42] <novato_br> layout partition system
[14:42] <rusibla_> hi, does anyone has experience with the gma500 chipset (some atom processors)
[14:42] <scunizi> novato_br: should be able to. but you've got some unusual setup there... root \ should be 15 gigs max unless you're really doing something unusual.  File system should be ext3 or 4 typically .. not 2
[14:42] <beachbrake> I have an acer extensa, and ubuntu 9.04 installed on it. It creates a series of short sharp tapping noise everytime any audio file is played. I tried to reinstall it, it went off, but came back again when I installed audacity. I failed to understand the problem. Can anyone help?
[14:42] <chilli0> ikonia, //<IP_ADDRESS>/media  /media/media_server cifs  credentials=/etc/samba/user,noexec  0 0
[14:43] <novato_br> ok, scunizi
[14:43] <ikonia> chilli0: try sharing it out over nfs - see if that makes a difference, it may be the actual sharing techniqiue rather than the file
[14:43] <beachbrake> Can I get any help herE?
[14:43] <novato_br> I'll try to do that
[14:43] <elliotsagan> @novato_br: pre configurated system?
[14:43] <jolaren> How do I edit grub? I want to change the boot device order so that It chooses win7 by default
[14:43] <tekkno> beachbrake, i dont think you will find someone with the same problem. cause audacity doesn change something on the core audio system (pulseaudio). Try to update to the latest ubuntu, thats always the best try
[14:43] <ahayzen> @Jolaren: What version of grub are you using?
[14:43] <jolaren> ahayzen; I guess the regular grub.. not 2.0
[14:44] <novato_br> elliotsagan, i want to keep layout disk partitions
[14:44] <beachbrake> tekkno, precisely whey i shifted from ubuntu 8.04
[14:44] <novato_br> did you get it?
[14:44] <beachbrake> I suspect there is a bug somewhere.
[14:44] <Squeese_> Hey, need some tips on "thin clients?" - Im in need of 4-5 "work stations" for work, they only need to run a ruby script and a browser, so I'd like the machines to run ubuntu. Im going to update the ruby stuff alot as we develop - what kind of system do you guys recomend I set up? Small EE-boxes that I boot from HDD or maybe CD's I burn? Or maybe network boot? Usb boot?
[14:44] <tekkno> beachbrake, there is a new audio system (pulseaudio), which may is the source of your problems.
[14:44] <ahayzen> @Jolaren: ok goto /boot/grub/menu.lst for the boot orders and settings, but be careful
[14:45] <ikonia> Squeese_: they all are valid options and have positives and negatives to them
[14:45] <beachbrake> tekkno, :) yes.
[14:45] <tekkno> you can try do deinstall it, but dont expect everthing to run better after that ;)
[14:45] <elliotsagan> @novato_br: but, are you trying to get up from a Windows system? that's it?
[14:45] <beachbrake> tekkno, why does pulseaudio have problems?
[14:45] <novato_br> I've created the paritition but the ubuntu doesn't install
[14:45] <novato_br> no, elliotsagan
[14:45] <tekkno> beachbrake, because it uses a huge amount of overhead instead of the core alsa interface
[14:45] <tekkno> it emulates a "fake" alsa device
[14:45] <beachbrake> tekkno, I tried installing ubuntu studio.
[14:46] <novato_br> I want to make partition on disk and I want to use one partition to install linux
[14:46] <tekkno> for legacy application which cant work with pulseaudio directly
[14:46] <novato_br> but it doesn't work
[14:46] <ahayzen> @Jolaren: if you Sudo the file it lets you edit it
[14:46] <jolaren> ahayzen; Thank you
[14:46] <elliotsagan> @novato_br: ok. linux want's a space on the first disk
[14:46] <novato_br> yeah
[14:47] <IdleOne> novato_br: when you get to the partitioning part of the install, you need to chose advanced and tell the installer where to put / and /home.
[14:47] <beachbrake> tekkno, fake?
[14:47] <novato_br> ?
[14:47] <Squeese_> ikonia: Im a relative new linux user (from the mac world) - wich solution do you think is easiest one to adapt at start?
[14:47] <Squeese_> maybe its a to deep question ><
[14:47] <novato_br> where Do I see these options?
[14:48] <novato_br> I've made partitions correctly
[14:48] <novato_br> the ubuntu just need to recognize them
[14:48] <tekkno> beachbrake, fake = emulation. make old application think that they talk to alsa directly (which is not true, cause its first goes to the pulseaudio backend)
[14:48] <novato_br> and it has to install correctly
[14:48] <beachbrake> tekkno, :) ah! are you an ubuntu dev?
[14:49] <gui_> ello
[14:49] <ikonia> Squeese_: I think a netboot may suit you overall, but a bit of a setup overhead, if you can be bothered, I think that would work best for you from the little you've said
[14:49] <tekkno> beachbrake, nope, just someone how does more with music, and so i know the problems of pulseaudio ;)
[14:49] <gui_> i don't get any sound when using the flash player in firefox, i've got ubuntu 9.10 - i've tried searchign the forums, but the info is all outdated
[14:49] <marcosRz> can anyome recomends me a video editor THAT WORKs? KDenlive is horrible
[14:49] <IdleOne> novato_br: select /dev/hda1 and click Edit. in the window it will have a little box for "mount as" select / and click the box to format.
[14:50] <IdleOne> /dev/sda1*
[14:50] <novato_br> I've tried, IdleOne
[14:50] <beachbrake> tekkno, pm
[14:50] <marcosRz> can anyome recomends me a video editor THAT WORKs? KDenlive is horrible
[14:50] <marcosRz> ?
[14:50] <Squeese_> ikonia: thx, will look into it :)
[14:50] <elliotsagan> @novato_br: I'm new to ubuntu, but I can tell you that installing version 9.10 was very easy.... just CD booting
[14:50] <IdleOne> marcosRz: look for OpenShot
[14:50] <tekkno> marcosRz, http://cinelerra.org/
[14:50] <IdleOne> novato_br: what error do you get?
[14:50] <novato_br> I put /dev/sda1 as /
[14:51] <gui_> anyone know how to get the sound on youtube working in 9.10?
[14:51] <marcosRz> cinelerrra is horrible too
[14:51] <marcosRz> openshot idem
[14:51] <marcosRz> i want one that works
[14:51] <novato_br> can I put /dev/sda5 as fat partition?
[14:51] <IdleOne> novato_br: why would you want a fat partition ?
[14:51] <marcosRz> kdenlive is so horrible
[14:51] <duffydack> Is there a fix or workaround for switching desktops when you have more than 1 vertically high
[14:52] <Guest17060> on Polish edition of Ubuntu sound works. Dunno if that depends on sound card or flash player
[14:52] <novato_br> IdleOne, because notebook will exchange data with windows
[14:53] <elliotsagan> @novato_br: let Ubuntu decide where it wants to get installed
[14:53] <IdleOne> windows can read ext3
[14:53] <novato_br> elliotsagan, ubunut is dumb
[14:53] <novato_br> it wont do what I want
[14:53] <IdleOne> novato_br: is windows installed on that machine?
[14:54] <fograven> I need help with my AWN dock
[14:54] <fograven> It was working
[14:54] <marcosRz> anyone
[14:54] <ajd2k9> hi i seem to have a problem just recently changed from my gfx card to onboard HDMI port so i could get audio through my tv .. it works with my music but not with mozilla or vlc .. works in amarok perfectly fine its just when theres video involved .. any suggestions peeps ... thanks
[14:54] <marcosRz> can recommend me a decent video editing app?
[14:54] <marcosRz> a DECENT one
[14:54] <novato_br> no, IdleOne
[14:54] <IdleOne> marcosRz: what is decent?
[14:55] <marcosRz> the one that actually works correctly?
[14:55] <novato_br> the machine will have a partition windows
[14:55] <IdleOne> marcosRz: we recommened 3 you don't like them
[14:55] <elliotsagan> @novato_br: if you want to do what you want... I'm guessing that you are going the wrong track with first time in linux
[14:55] <marcosRz> Cinelerra, kdenlive all sucks
[14:55] <elliotsagan>
[14:55] <marcosRz> Yeah
[14:55] <marcosRz> it seems the is not a decent video editing app on linux
[14:55] <marcosRz> It seems the best one is the one that the vlc guys are doing
[14:55] <novato_br> don't worry, elliotsagan
[14:55] <marcosRz> but it's not funcional right know
[14:55] <novato_br> I made that before
[14:55] <chilli0> ikonia,  Oh and. This may be the reason. The source of the files is on a external hard drive ( usb 2.0 )
[14:55] <IdleOne> marcosRz: what is wrong with Cinelerra or OpenShot?
[14:55] <marcosRz> it sucks not being able toe dit videos
[14:56] <marcosRz> IdahoEv, they both sucks?
[14:56] <marcosRz> they look like 10 years ago apps for editing
[14:56] <novato_br> I am not familiarized with this ubuntu version
[14:56] <marcosRz> don 't even compare to adobe premiere
[14:56] <oCean_> marcosRz: please calm down
[14:56] <marcosRz> or even windows movie maker
[14:56] <marcosRz> :)
[14:56] <marcosRz> both are beter
[14:56] <novato_br> I have 160GB
[14:56] <marcosRz> Openshot lasted 30secs on my ubuntu
[14:56] <marcosRz> its horrible
[14:57] <novato_br> I want ubuntu use just 50GB
[14:57] <tekkno> marcosRz, windows movie maker sucks too and Kino is quite close to that
[14:57] <fograven> says I don't have the required drivers?
[14:57] <marcosRz> tehbaut, actually at least wmm works
[14:57] <marcosRz> :)
[14:57] <marcosRz> and it works good
[14:57] <erUSUL> !ot | marcosRz no ranting is not on topic
[14:57] <gui_> does amarok usually take ver long/become unresponsive when scanning large music collections?
[14:57] <tekkno> marcosRz, but there is no premiere on linux, true. you can try wine to emulated if you want the same
[14:58] <marcosRz> yeah
[14:58] <marcosRz> best bet
[14:58] <IdleOne> marcosRz: both projects have Donate buttons. Takes time and money to put in the type of work you are expecting for free. Now had you spent $400 on one of these free alternatives I could see you complaining but compairing them to proprietary software is not a fair comparison
[14:58] <marcosRz> :(
[14:58] <chilli0> marcosRz, Well then stop complaining. Install windows in a vm and there you go. I run sony vegus 9 on it fine
[14:58] <marcosRz> IdleOne, Windows Movie Maker is "free"
[14:58] <gui_> can anyone help me with getting sound to work on youtube?
[14:58] <IdleOne> Windows isn't!
[14:58] <marcosRz> I'm almost installing windows on a vm
[14:58] <oCean_> marcosRz: stop. This is not contributing to this channel in any way.
[14:58] <marcosRz> just because it has decent apps
[14:58] <IdleOne> trust me you paid for Win Movie maker
[14:58] <tekkno> marcosRz, nope ;) you just buy it with windows
[14:58] <ajd2k9_> gui : are you having trouble with just video sound?
[14:58] <marcosRz> i know thats why I putted ""
[14:59] <marcosRz> so at least it works -_-
[14:59] <gui_> ajd2k9, yes, sound in rhytmbox, amarok, etc works fine
[14:59] <novato_br> earlier It was so easy to do that
[14:59] <tekkno> the other apps work too ;)
[14:59] <tekkno> and they are freee
[14:59] <ahayzen> Aren't we getting PiTiVi with 10.04 which is like movie maker???
[14:59] <novato_br> today it's hard to do that
[14:59] <novato_br> I don't know
[14:59] <elliotsagan> Is there an application for easily install .tar.bz packets?
[14:59] <tekkno> so if you dont like the look -> get some coding skills and change the look and feel ;)
[14:59] <tekkno> opensource baby ;)
[14:59] <ajd2k9_> have you tried a video in vlc ..
[14:59] <chilli0> marcosRz, It really doesn't work that great. Try saving the video. It will take 5h for a 10min long video
[14:59] <gui_> ajd2k9, yes, it worked
[15:00] <marcosRz> great
[15:00] <pfred1> hello where can I report a bug?
[15:00] <marcosRz> openshot doesnt even have custom profiles
[15:00] <oCean_> !bug | pfred1
[15:00] <scunizi>  marcosRz have you tried "Smile" .. getdeb.net
[15:00] <gui_> ajd2k9, all the guides in the forum are either outdated or just band-aids
[15:00] <ajd2k9_> ahh right .. cant help sorry bud iv got same problem just no sound when it comes to videos
[15:00] <marcosRz> scunizi, no, I'll try it later
[15:00] <marcosRz> I'll isntall right know windows on a vm so I can get a decent app
[15:00] <marcosRz> for video editing
[15:00] <gui_> how come such a good distro like ubuntu doesn't have good documentation on playing flash sound....
[15:01] <IdleOne> marcosRz: it does have a bug reporting system and a wish list system. openshot.org
[15:01] <pfred1> oCean_ it was a bug in a non free package should I report it to the same place I gotthe package through synaptic though
[15:01] <ajd2k9_> you chewdked all your audio output settings?
[15:01] <ajd2k9_> checked*
[15:02] <marcosRz> i would rather pay for a decent one IdleOne  :3
[15:02] <scunizi> I kinda liked chewdked :)
[15:02] <oCean_> pfred1: i guess you should indeed.
[15:02] <Cabrobra> how can i install Age 2 in Ubuntu 8.04?
[15:02] <IdleOne> marcosRz: that is fine also :) your choice.
[15:02] <ajd2k9_> yeah looks awesome just makes no sense
[15:02] <marcosRz> IdleOne, but it doesnt have one I can pay for
[15:02] <marcosRz> All the availabels one are free in beer and freedom
[15:02] <marcosRz> and they all suck :(
[15:02] <oCean_> marcosRz: stop this now!
[15:02] <pfred1> oCean_ now i have ot do the unthinkable and install something without the package manager wish me luck!
[15:03] <ahayzen> @Cabrobar: age 2 what?
[15:03] <Bodsda> Hi, I have a VPS running 9.04. It currently has about 6 apache2 processes running, should there be this many? Is it worth stopping the service, clearing the processes and restarting the service?
[15:03] <ajd2k9_> hi i seem to have a problem just recently changed from my gfx card to onboard HDMI port so i could get audio through my tv .. it works with my music but not with mozilla or vlc .. works in amarok perfectly fine its just when theres video involved .. any suggestions peeps ... thanks???
[15:03] <scunizi> marcosRz: yea.. we got it.. you're not happy with video editors available in linux.. let it go.. you're fast becoming a troll
[15:04] <chilli0> marcosRz, Do you know how hard it is to create a video edited app? And worst of all there is no reason for people to. because there not genning payed to do it.
[15:04] <Cabrobra> the game.. Age of Empires II
[15:04] <ahayzen> ok
[15:04] <ikonia> chilli0: still shouldn't cause that much of ap problem on a usb driv
[15:04] <raven> after sync with UNISON both system passwords not accepted - what to do?
[15:04] <ikonia> drive
[15:04] <marcosRz> scunizi, ok I'm glad to go away and do my sutff right know
[15:04]  * marcosRz installing windows on vm
[15:04] <oCean_> chilli0: don't start again on this topic. Or take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:04] <ahayzen> @Cabrobra: you could try through WINE
[15:04] <chilli0> ikonia, Oh ok.
[15:04] <chilli0> oCean_,  Sorry my mistake.
[15:05] <Cabrobra> i have to install Wine? Iḿ new with linux
[15:05] <ahayzen> @Cabrobra:  or use Virtualbox to run windows
[15:05] <chilli0> ikonia, Ill try what you said in a min. Need to install ssh on the server =P
[15:05] <Cabrobra> *i'm
[15:05] <ahayzen> @Cabrobra: What version of ubuntu are you running
[15:05] <om26er> !test
[15:06] <Cabrobra> 8.04
[15:06] <chilli0> marcosRz, tryed this ? http://www.getdeb.net/software/LiVES
[15:06] <ahayzen> Ok
[15:06] <ikonia> chilli0: no problem, it hopefully at least will show where the problem is
[15:06] <Cabrobra> ahayzen: 8.04
[15:06] <marcosRz> thanks chilli0 I've found a solution
[15:06] <raven> massively password problems - need help please
[15:06] <Bodsda> If I have a VPS and one IP address for it, can I have one domain name going to ###.###.###.###/site1 and the other going to ###.###.###.###/site2 ?
[15:06] <chilli0> ikonia,  Yep. Thanks.
[15:06] <huggybeers> how do I get ubuntu 9.04 to see my serial port modem
[15:06] <novato_br> elliotsagan, should I chose EXT3 with journaling?}
[15:06] <gui_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1193567&highlight=FOT004 -- that worked for me
[15:06] <gaelfx> so I installed the gnome sensors-applet, but it only shows me the GPU temp, I can't seem to get any info about my CPU out of it, is this likely a hardware problem or what?
[15:07] <ikonia> Bodsda: that's name based hosting you need to look at for apache
[15:07] <novato_br> elliotsagan, should I chose EXT3 with journaling to system file?
[15:07] <raven> massively password problems - need help please
[15:07] <pfred1> I don't feel like setting up an account to report this bug can anyone here with an established account confirm the bug and report it?
[15:07] <IdleOne> !ask | raven
[15:07] <erUSUL> huggybeers: if it is a serial por modem there is nothing to "see" just point the dialing program to /dev/ttyS0 (or S1 depending on what serial port is attached to)
[15:08] <raven> after sync with UNISON both system passwords not accepted - what to do?
[15:08] <ikonia> pfred1: please setup the account to report your bug yourself
[15:08] <Halabund> Hi,  I have a video the sound of which doesn't play.  How do I figure out what to install to make it work?
[15:08] <ahayzen> Go under Applications at the bottom do you have an Application install or add/remove option if so click on it.
[15:08] <Bodsda> ikonia: its an apache config issue then? I dont need to go buying an additional IP address or anythign like that?
[15:08] <erUSUL> pfred1: what would we do if they ask for more info or to test a patch ?
[15:08] <pfred1> ikonia its not that big a deal
[15:08] <san_> .
[15:08] <ikonia> pfred1: please report your own bugs
[15:08] <ikonia> Bodsda: yeah, name based virtual hosting, don't need multiple ip's
[15:08] <pfred1> ikonia hey its not my bug all I did was select the move tool and the app crashed!
[15:08] <_raven> IdleOne,
[15:08] <scunizi> huggybeers: is it usb?
[15:09] <altaira> Hi! What's the right way to unistall kde and install gnome from kubuntu karmic?
[15:09] <ikonia> pfred1: please either report it yourself, or don't, but don't ask others to report it for you
[15:09] <ikonia> altaira: install the ubuntu-desktop package, and remove the kde packages
[15:09] <pfred1> ikonia whats wrong with a little confirmation? I could have faulty memory on my system or something who knows?
[15:09] <scunizi> altaira: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop .. after install follow the link ubottu gives you.
[15:09] <erUSUL> !puregenome | altaira
[15:09] <scunizi> !puregnome | altaira
[15:10] <ikonia> pfred1: you can search bugs without needing an account to get confirmation, please don't ask others to log bugs for you
[15:10] <huggybeers> no
[15:10] <huggybeers> analog
[15:10] <kickar> hey guys i have 2 virtual desktops now .. how do i make them into four?
[15:10] <maniaks> what is the best player for listen radio?
[15:10] <_raven> after sync with UNISON both system passwords not accepted - what to do?
[15:10] <erUSUL> kickar: right click on the switcher in the panel choose Preferences
[15:10] <IdleOne> kickar: right click, chose prefs.....
[15:10] <oCean_> kickar: right-click workspace switcher > preferences
[15:10] <Cabrobra> wich is the best wine to Ubuntu 8.0?
[15:10] <Cabrobra> 8.04.
[15:11] <IdleOne> Cabrobra: the one in the repositories
[15:11] <altaira> That was fast! Thanks a lot everyone!
[15:11] <kickar> oCean_,  where is workspace switcher?
[15:11] <IdleOne> bottom right next to trash
[15:11] <oCean_> kickar: the little applet in (one of your) panel(s) ?
[15:12] <oCean_> kickar: if it's not there, then right-click the panel and choose "add to panel"  then choose the "workspace switcher"
[15:12] <unperson> If I have one CD drive and I boot from the live CD, is it possible for me to take the liveCD out somehow so that I can access something a different the CD?  I know this is possible with Damn Small Linux because it's small enough to easily load entirely into RAM.  I'm not sure if about doing it with the Ubuntu live CD.
[15:12] <kickar> oCean_,  IdleOne  thanks guys i am good now
[15:12] <Cabrobra> IdleOne: thanks
[15:12] <IdleOne> Welcome
[15:13] <kickar> oCean_,  how do i make it ... compiz i mean .. to averlap desktops  ? like in kde ?
[15:13] <huggybeers> thanks for the  help.
[15:13] <oCean_> kickar: not using compiz, sorry - don't know
[15:13] <ranjan_> hello every body i am having an issue with samba share can any body on this network can help me on this ...
[15:15] <iceroot> ranjan_: no, not without details
[15:16] <masingerz> hi
[15:16] <IdleOne> hello masingerz
[15:16] <_raven> cannot login as root any more - how to solve
[15:16] <LjL> !root | _raven
[15:16] <usmanasim> I am trying to run this sudo ./image_to_usb.sh --from=~/chromiumos/src/build/images/SUBDIR --to=/dev/USBKEYDEV , but I get the following error about "sudo: ./image_to_usb.sh: command not found"
[15:17] <usmanasim> Where am I going wrong ?
[15:17] <masingerz> im getting ready to install ubuntu on a 60gb partition that is currently ntfs and part of a bigger disk
[15:17] <masingerz> i need help with the partitioning
[15:18] <_raven> LjL, the problem started after syncing with unison - NO sudo possible any more on BOTH systems
[15:18] <ranjan_> ya i understand :: i am not being able to b rouse my network place from nautilus  it is giving an error message of Failed to retrieve share list from server
[15:18] <scunizi> masingerz: with 60 gigs make root 10, swap 2 and the rest home .. unless it's a laptop. If that's the case make swap 2x of your ram
[15:18] <pfred1> _raven use sudo -i
[15:18] <Switch10> masingerz: the install process will take care of the partitioning
[15:19] <LjL> _raven: uhm, the reasons why sudo might not work could be 1) that your user is not in the group "admin" anymore, 2) that /etc/sudoers has become bad 3) that /usr/bin/sudo is not setuid root. you can check for these things from recovery mode, i think
[15:19] <masingerz> swwitch10 no sir
[15:19] <LjL> pfred1: if sudo doesn't work, sudo -i won't work.
[15:19] <Switch10> masingerz: yes
[15:19] <scunizi> masingerz: or do as Switch10 suggests and just let ubuntu do it's thing on install
[15:19] <ranjan> i am not being able to b rouse my network place from nautilus  it is giving an error message of Failed to retrieve share list from server   any help would be of great help
[15:19] <steffan> /3/3
[15:19] <marcosRz> oh well
[15:19] <_raven> LjL i am able to login on this pc with the password, on the second one i cannot even login and on this system sudo is not possible any more
[15:19] <Switch10> masingerz: choose the manual option
[15:20] <marcosRz> I'm feel sick :(
[15:20] <marcosRz> this channel has a offtopic channel?
[15:20] <IdleOne> marcosRz: Got a virus?
[15:20] <pfred1> LjL sounds like a job for init 1 to me then
[15:20] <IdleOne> marcosRz: #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:20] <LjL> !ot | marcosRz
[15:20] <_raven> LjL, no idea what's going on here - i ignored any systems file from synching and not this
[15:20] <Blue-Arch> به امید دیدار - خدانگهدار
[15:20] <marcosRz> no IdleOne I tried again openshot and I got glibc free errors (LOL) + stack overflow
[15:20] <LjL> !arabic | Blue-Arch
[15:20] <_raven> pfred1 no sudo possible
[15:21] <pfred1> _raven init 1 is forced root access
[15:21] <LjL> _raven: well, i have no idea either, but you should be able to obtain a shell at least by editing your kernel line from the GRUB menu and putting "init=/bin/bash"
[15:21] <pfred1> _raven only root access!
[15:21] <LjL> pfred1: "init" is not a command that you can run if you aren't root *in the first place*
[15:22] <usmanasim> I am trying to run this sudo ./image_to_usb.sh --from=~/chromiumos/src/build/images/SUBDIR --to=/dev/USBKEYDEV , but I get the following error about "sudo: ./image_to_usb.sh: command not found"
[15:22] <usmanasim> Where am I going wrong ?
[15:22] <pfred1> LjL you can boot up in it
[15:22] <_raven> pfred1 could you tell me what exactly to do?
[15:22] <masingerz> Switch10 scunizi i go into manual andi view the 60 gb partitino, then what?
[15:22] <steffan> usmanasim: image_to_usb.sh is not in the working directory that you're currently in
[15:22] <iceroot> usmanasim: run that command at the location from the script
[15:23] <usmanasim> How do I find that ?
[15:23] <pfred1> _raven your best bet might be to try using the install CD in recovery mode because booting in single mode can be a pain
[15:23] <scunizi> masingerz: depends .. how many other partitions on this drive?
[15:23] <Switch10> usmanasim: pwd
[15:23] <ajd2k9_> hi i seem to have a problem just recently changed from my gfx card to onboard HDMI port so i could get audio through my tv .. it works with my music but not with mozilla or vlc .. works in amarok perfectly fine its just when theres video involved .. any suggestions peeps ... thanks???
[15:24] <masingerz> scunizi 4 parititions on the drive
[15:24] <pfred1> _raven I mean theres a million ways to fix your problem some are harder to do than others though
[15:25] <pfred1> _raven the best solutions are always the easiest
[15:25] <masingerz> but the space i want to use to install ubuntu is on the 60gb
[15:25] <Dimoutlook> Hi All
[15:25] <_raven> pfred1 what is the best solution
[15:25] <masingerz> i have an asus 1000he netbok
[15:25] <usmanasim> steffan: the file is in the working directory i just checked but why is it still not working
[15:25] <hidensoft> hi all
[15:25] <pfred1> _raven the easiest which is probably just dropping in your install CD and booting off of it
[15:25] <scunizi> masingerz: then you have another issue.. you need to delete one partiiton (the 60 gig one you want to install ubuntu into) .. then create an extended partition.. inside the extended partition you can install ubuntu.. you might even be able to use "guided" partitioning .. just point it at the partition and let it do it's thing.
[15:25] <masingerz> andi would like to dual boot
[15:25] <hidensoft> i can't using mode_rewrite
[15:25] <steffan> usmanasim: 'ls' shows that the file is in the current directory?
[15:25] <hidensoft> please help me
[15:26] <usmanasim> steffan: yep
[15:26] <masingerz> ok
[15:26] <steffan> usmanasim: see if 'bash image_to_usb.sh' works instead
[15:26] <Dimoutlook> What is the best way to erase a dvd-rw from the CL brasereo keeps corrupting the disk
[15:27] <masingerz> brb
[15:27] <_raven> pfred1 when booting from the live-system - which files do i have to edit manually?
[15:27] <NativeAngels> does anyone here know about shoutcast ?
[15:27] <pfred1> _raven honestly it isn't a problem I've had to deal with though i have had to blank out root passwords in the passwd file
[15:27] <steffan> !ask | NativeAngels
[15:27] <hidensoft> any idea ?
[15:28] <bomber> im trying to reinsall grub... my system has a sata and 2 ide drives and im not having any luck getting grub back on here
[15:28] <usmanasim> steffan: again it says no file or directory but ls shows the file
[15:28] <usmanasim> is there
[15:28] <chilli0> ikonia,  its weird. Its streaming so well now.
[15:28] <pfred1> _raven when I forget what it is
[15:28] <Shaan7> bomber: ubuntu version?
[15:28] <chilli0> ikonia,  Not with NFS lol
[15:29] <NativeAngels> would like to know why when i do ./sc_serv sc_serv.conf am i getting no such file or directory when both files are there ?
[15:29] <bomber> kubuntu 9.10n
[15:29] <steffan> usmanasim: pastebin the output of 'ls' and the error output of the command and I'll take a look
[15:29] <steffan> NativeAngels: check that sc_serv is in the current working directory
[15:29] <_raven> pfred1 could you tell me the way a bit?
[15:29] <NativeAngels> how do i do that steffan
[15:30] <Shaan7> bomber: you know on which partition kubuntu is installed ? (/dev/sdX)
[15:30] <pfred1> _raven I'm sort of hoping Ubuntu has nice system revocery utilities because the ways I've done it aren't very nice
[15:30] <electro> que pasa tois
[15:30] <steffan> NativeAngels: 'ls' will show if that file is in your current working directory or not
[15:30] <sebsebseb> !pt |  electro
[15:30] <macman_> hey all question .. are most wireless cards support out of the box with linux
[15:31] <bomber> well its on the 2nd partition of the sata diskn
[15:31] <pfred1> _raven I've evne overinstalled Linux distros over hashed existing ones and that works suprisingly well
[15:31] <sebsebseb> macman_: no
[15:31] <Switch10> macman_: all mine have been.
[15:31] <pfred1> _raven just don't format anything!
[15:31] <macman_> Switch10: what gfx cards any intel ones ?
[15:31] <ablyss> steffan: that would be correct if you said ls -A
[15:31] <sebsebseb> macman_:  Switch10  wireless is a common issue
[15:31] <_raven> pfred1 which files are needed to edit/blank the password?
[15:32] <sebsebseb> macman_: Intel graphics should be fine on 9.10, it was an issue on 9.04,  not all of them though when it came to 9.04
[15:32] <pfred1> _raven I've used vi on /etc/passwd
[15:32] <Switch10> macman_: ya I just bought a sparkle nvidia card. It worked great
[15:32] <macman_> Switch10: i need a laptop
[15:32] <macman_> this one i have is cool but i don't like it anymore lol .. plus the battery is gone
[15:32] <macman_> i always have to be plugged in
[15:32] <Shaan7> bomber: basically what you've to do is - 1. Boot from a 9.10 LiveCD 2. Mount the partition which has ubuntu installed to /mnt (say) 3. sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt --recheck /dev/sda
[15:33] <ckosmowski> #germanrock
[15:33] <steffan> ablyss: i said that 'ls' will show all files in the current directory which is correct. -A hides hidden files
[15:33] <steffan> ablyss: which we don't want to do :)
[15:33] <NativeAngels> im in the right folder steffan
[15:33] <Shaan7> bomber: to find which partition it is, do 'sudo parted --list' and check for a ext formatted partition.
[15:33] <bomber> ok
[15:33] <Shaan7> bomber: then mount it using, 'sudo mount /dev/sdXn /mnt' for me its sudo mount /dev/sda7 /mnt
[15:33] <Switch10> macman_: you should be ok. If the card doesn't work go buy one of those USB wireless adapters. I have one of those as well. It works great
[15:34] <sebsebseb> !hardware |  macman_
[15:34] <ablyss> steffan: i guess when you say all files, you mean just the ones you can see. :)
[15:34] <gigasoft> where can i see processor's working frequency?
[15:35] <Shaan7> bomber: hope you got it :)
[15:35] <macman_> thanks
[15:35] <Switch10> gigasoft: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[15:35] <gigasoft> Wwitch10: thanks :)
[15:36] <steffan> ablyss: -A _hides_ hidden files. 'ls' doesn't
[15:36] <sebsebseb> macman_: Switch10  a lot of USB wireless's won't just work as far as I know
[15:36] <bomber> i wrote it down... now i'll try... im in puppy live cd right now but i'll boot to the kubuntu cd and try that
[15:36] <Switch10> sebsebseb: agai
[15:36] <bomber> thanks a lot
[15:36] <sebsebseb> Switch10: what?
[15:36] <Switch10> sebsebseb: I bought some random cheap one and it worked awesome
[15:37] <sebsebseb> Switch10: ok, but wireless is a main problem area for Ubuntu
[15:37] <ablyss> steffan: what on earth r u talking about
[15:37] <Shaan7> bomber: np, all the best
[15:37] <steffan> ablyss: you said that -A will show all files including hidden files. -A hides hidden files from the output meaning that a plain 'ls' will show hidden files too
[15:38] <Switch10> sebsebseb: I guess I have just been lucky then. I never have had to many problems with about 10 different cards
[15:38] <sebsebseb> Switch10: yeah I guess you were lucky or something like that
[15:38] <pfred1> steffan are you sure your ls isn't aliased or something?
[15:39] <guest> hi
[15:39] <sebsebseb> guest: hi
[15:40] <ablyss> steffan: maybe ls -a would be more of what i meant
[15:40] <scunizi> steffan: sounds like something on your system has changed.. ls by itself will not show hidden files.. ls -a *will* show hidden files. if your's is functioning opposite then someone changed something.
[15:41] <steffan> aparently that is what has happened. the manpage for ls shows -A as 'List all entries except for . and ...' meaning that -A will hide . and ... files?
[15:41] <steffan> or is it just worded wrong?
[15:42] <trism> steffan: no, that is correct, but that is also the default behavior
[15:42] <ablyss> i think its worded wrong, the man page for ls -A makes no sense
[15:42] <steffan> ablyss: that is what was causing the confusion between me and you, it is worded wrong
[15:43] <trism> steffan: no I take it back, -A just hides . and .., not the rest of the hidden files
[15:43] <guest> WHEN I GET UBUNTU 9.10 ABOUT 2 OR 3  MONTHY  AGO THERE WAS SOME ERROR IN IT SUCH AS ERROR WITE NETWORK MANAGER 2 DAYS AGO I DOWNLOAD IT AGIN MY QUESTION IS THIS IS THIS PROMLEMS ARE FIXED OR NOT?
[15:43] <steffan> as i rarely use another other than a plain 'ls' i looked at the manpage and assumed that would be correct
[15:43] <steffan> !caps | guest
[15:43] <ablyss> steffan: well, i should have said ls -a, not ls -A but im not sure what the difference is myself lol
[15:43] <Mugua> list
[15:44] <Switch10> guest: no
[15:44] <scunizi> guest: depends on your hardware.. nobody can answer that question
[15:44] <guest>  Switch10  no WHY?
[15:44] <ikonia> guest: please stop using caps lock and talking in captials
[15:45] <guest> sorry ok
[15:45] <IdleOne> guest best thing would be to download the livecd and test it
[15:45] <arghh2d2> ls -a lists .dotfiles and ls -A is just like ls without the . and .. directory switchers
[15:46] <guest> thanx to all
[15:46] <ablyss> ah, so ls -A does not ignore files with dots just foldes
[15:47] <ablyss> i wonder about symlinks,
[15:47] <arvind_khadri> ablyss, arghh2d2 the files starting with . are hidden files
[15:48] <trism> ablyss: no, ls -A and ls -a are identical except that ls -A doesn't list the current directory (.) and the parent directory (..)
[15:48] <ablyss> no wonder the man page made no sense.. its totally nuts
[15:48] <arghh2d2> ablyss: ls -A doesnt "ignore" .hiddendotfiles anymore than a regular ls...theyre just hidden
[15:48] <scunizi> ablyss: try "man ls" in a terminal for more info.
[15:49] <arghh2d2> no, man page good
[15:49] <arghh2d2> your nuts
[15:49] <ablyss> fork u
[15:49] <scunizi> ablyss: also http://ss64.com/bash/
[15:49] <alokito> any good P2P client in the main ubuntu repo?
[15:49] <arghh2d2> trism: you're wrong too
[15:50] <arghh2d2> oh, n/m
[15:50] <arghh2d2> i stand corrected
[15:50] <arghh2d2> i was wrong about all this
[15:50] <arghh2d2> fork me
[15:50] <scunizi> !p2p | alokito
[15:51] <lifestream> Umm... I'm trying to copy a folder .gedit  to another user's home folder, but instead of over wrtitting the existing files, it's justt naming them "copy of ...."... *scratches head really slowly* ....  why won't it overwrite? (of course, i have permissions)
[15:51] <alokito> scunizi yah I know that, I just need a quick recommendation on what'll work best in ubuntu
[15:51] <OnceUpon> could someone give me the link to the bulgarian chat?
[15:51] <alokito> I've used frostwire but it's a Limewire clone
[15:51] <sebsebseb> !bg |  OnceUpon
[15:51] <simpsoni28> hi all
[15:51] <simpsoni28> i'm looking for some help regarding my sony vaio cw laptop running ubuntu 9.10 not wanting to detect an external monitor (32" samsung tv) through either VGA or HDMI
[15:51] <OnceUpon> thank you all
[15:52] <sebsebseb> OnceUpon: np
[15:52] <NativeAngels> how do you make a file executable ?
[15:52] <scunizi> alokito: invoking the "best" question typically results in another bot response.. the choice is yours.. lots of programs available take your pick
[15:52] <lifestream> NativeAngels,  chmod +x  THenameOfYourFile
[15:52] <arvind_khadri> NativeAngels, chmod +x <filename>
[15:52] <Switch10> simpsoni28: what kind of graphics card?
[15:52] <alokito> okk
[15:52] <alokito> I'm gonna try KMLDonkey
[15:53] <simpsoni28> Switch10: its a Nvidia GT230M 512mb, I have the propriatary 185 drivers installed
[15:54] <Switch10> simpsoni28: you have tried in system>settings>display to set it up?
[15:54] <jaredd> hi :)
[15:54] <macman_> sebsebseb: those laptops are old
[15:54] <jaredd> !addon
[15:55] <ablyss> NativeAngels: a script can be executed also by invoking bash e.g., bash script.sh
[15:55] <sebsebseb> macman_: which? uh?
[15:55] <simpsoni28> Switch10: when I do that it brings up a box saying the graphics driver does not support this extension tool, and then directs me to the nvidia X settings tool
[15:55] <duffydack> Is there a fix or workaround for switching desktops when you have more than 1 vertically high
[15:55] <NativeAngels> ok ablyss
[15:55] <Switch10> simpsoni28: ok.  And it just won't work with nvidias tool?
[15:56] <NativeAngels> ive follow the instrucions in a tutorial but all i get when i start it is -bash: ./sc_serv: No such file or directory
[15:56] <eremite> I cant hear my mic though my speakers.  How do I hear my mic through the speakers?  It records audio just fine, but I cant hear audio coming from the speakers when I use the mic.  I should.  I need to.
[15:56] <NativeAngels> thats what i get ablyss
[15:56] <simpsoni28> Switch10: nope, it detects the laptops display but when I plug in the cable (either VGA or HDMi) and click detect nothing is detected
[15:56] <macman_> sebsebseb: im just looking for at least a 17' wireless working / graphics working / sound working and between $800 and $900 dollars
[15:57] <sebsebseb> macman_: oh the hardware link I gave?
[15:57] <macman_> sebsebseb: yea those are so old
[15:57] <sebsebseb> macman_: well got the bot  to give you,  thought that's what you probably meant
[15:57] <sebsebseb> !laptop |  macman_
[15:57] <sebsebseb> macman_: Anyway pre installed Ubuntu lap tops can be bought these days even from Dell
[15:57] <Switch10> simpsoni28: hmm. I had to restart with the monitor plugged in to get mine detected. Have you tried that?
[15:57] <grkblood13> how do i edit the diectory path of a torrent in transmission?
[15:58] <simpsoni28> Switch10: I've tried that multiple times and nothing is detected.
[15:58] <ablyss> NativeAngels: that error means the file or folder is not in your current path
[15:58] <Switch10> simpsoni28: I have no idea then. Sorry
[15:58] <eremite> Can any of you actually hear audio comicng from yoru speakers when you speak into your mic, or does Ubuntu hate you too?
[15:58] <NativeAngels> but im in the directory ablyss
[15:58] <sebsebseb> !hate | eremite
[15:59] <eremite> Good for you sebsebseb
[15:59] <macman_> ok yea sebsebseb i did a search for it and i see a lot of stuff
[15:59] <sebsebseb> eremite: not exactly the right factoid, anyway  uhmm  probably some pulseaudio issue or something, what you have
[15:59] <eremite> Make sense sebsebseb
[16:00] <sebsebseb> eremite: sound isn't really my area, but pulseaudio deals with Ubuntu's sound by default, and that's probably what your computer has an issue with.
[16:00] <DeepDarK> hi everone
[16:00] <eremite> Can anyone tell me if this is on my end?  Just plug your mic into your mic jack, speak into it and turn up your speakers.  Can you hear yourself?  Probably not, right?
[16:00] <DeepDarK> anybody speak turkish
[16:00] <sebsebseb> !tr | eremite
[16:00] <sebsebseb> eremite: whoops
[16:00] <sebsebseb> DeepDarK: ^
[16:01] <ablyss> NativeAngels: another situation is when you have a broken symlink.  it appears a regular file but is really a zombie and bash will spit out that error
[16:01] <NativeAngels> how do i fix it
[16:01] <Switch10> eremite: if you recorded it you would hear it while it's being played back.
[16:01] <grek> hy this is corect menu.lst
[16:01] <grek> http://wklej.to/mO2F
[16:02] <trism> eremite: this may be a solution http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8672035 (though perhaps not a great one)
[16:02] <eremite> Switch10, im not talking about listening to audio, im talking about hearing my mic via my speakers.  I know the mic input works because recording works, but THERE IS NO SOUND IN FROM MY SPEAKERS WILE RECORDING.
[16:02] <ablyss> NativeAngels: you need to know where the file was suppose to be symlinked. if you can then ls -s
[16:02] <eremite> Why wount this work, natively?
[16:02] <ablyss> er, ln -s
[16:03] <coiax3> I have Python2.7 installed, is there a way I can add it to the list of installed version of python so installed modules are byte-compiled for it?
[16:03] <om26er_> !resetpanel
[16:04] <om26er_> how to identify with nick server
[16:04] <eremite> Wow, this must be some sort of cruel joke.  You cant hear the mic via speakers in Ubuntu.  Seriously, a cruel joke.
[16:04] <steffan> om26er_: /msg nickserv identify password
[16:04] <maro_> im new how does this work??
[16:05] <om26er_> steffan, thanx
[16:05] <sebsebseb> eremite: that  depends on your hardware, if it just works or not,  you see  there's quite a lot of lack of manufacture support at the moment.  Most hardware support has actsaully been reverse enginered, and that's a rather difficult proggramming task.
[16:05] <Switch10> eremite: you want to "monitor" your recording it sounds like. Ardour will let you do that
[16:06] <steffan> !new | maro_
[16:06] <eremite> sebsebseb, it worked on windows, same machine.  This is unbelieveable.
[16:06] <eremite> Switch10, I want to hear audio coming from the mic.  Its that simple.
[16:06] <Switch10> eremite: so use windows
[16:06] <eremite> This should work, out of the box.
[16:07] <sebsebseb> eremite: no you don't understand, just, because it works in Windows, does not mean it will on Ubuntu
[16:07] <eremite> Just to hear a mic?  Get real, Switch10
[16:07] <Switch10> eremite: use windows
[16:07] <maro_> thanx steffan
[16:07] <eremite> Switch10, buy it for me.
[16:07] <sebsebseb> eremite: you can probably configure your microphone to get it working properly on Ubuntu, if you find out what to do
[16:07] <Switch10> eremite: you already have it. Your mic works on it
[16:07] <zagabar> ANyone knows why my mail service programs like squirrelmail and ability to connect with thunderbird to check my mail starts to fail when I add the following rule? sudo iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE
[16:07] <trism> eremite: did you try the solution in the third post of the thread I linked?
[16:07] <eremite> I dont understand WHY it wont work.  If you guys dont know anything about sound in Ubuntu then please stop telling me what to do.
[16:08] <Zorael> If someone with an Nvidia card installs the nvidia-glx virtual package, will it autodetect which real one you need or will they have to guess between -71, -96, -173, -177, -180 and -185?
[16:08] <eremite> trism, no because the people who used it are complainging about latency.
[16:08] <sebsebseb> eremite: sound, wireless,  whatever the hardware, this applys to it all,  not all hardware just works in Ubuntu, that will on Windows on that same computer.  Altough a hard disk and motherboard and proccesor should just work  on Ubuntu as well.
[16:09] <sebsebseb> eremite: most hardware that doesn't just work properly, can be configured to work properly in Ubuntu
[16:09] <sillyCEO> When I switch off my WIFI router, ubuntu throws up a dialog ("Authentication require by wireless network"). I'm leaving this unsupervised, so I want NO dialog... just want it to keep trying to hop back on. Any ideas? :)
[16:10] <eremite> sebsebseb, thanks for the useless lecture about thinsg I already know about.  Im asking why such a simple and seemingly manditory feature that is not available.     I'm leaving this unsupervised, so I want NO dialog... just want it to keep trying to hop back on. Any ideas? :)
[16:14] <grkblood13> Steffan, that has absolutely nothing to do with what i asked
[16:14] <grkblood13> WHY DO PEOPLE DO THAT IN HERE?
[16:14] <ikonia> grkblood13: please don't use caps, it's pointless
[16:15] <steffan> grkblood13: most software is open source and thus free of charge on ubuntu, you want to search using whatever package manager you're using and stop looking for ubuntu software in WalMart
[16:15] <steffan> grkblood13: the link i gave you will have more information on searching for software for ubuntu
[16:15] <arvind_khadri> grkblood13, i guess you would like to check out, kwallet , not sure though, there are billing softwares
[16:15] <jaydawg> they sell good software for ubuntu in walmart?
[16:15] <grkblood13> no, the link you gave me is described as software management
[16:15] <Slart> grkblood13: you asked for tax software.. that factoid from ubuntu explains how to search for software, descriptions etc..
[16:16] <grkblood13> i didnt ask anythign about software management
[16:16] <ikonia> grkblood13: yes, software managment will allow you to search for software for your needsw
[16:16] <iceroot> grkblood13: apt-cache search tax
[16:16] <ikonia> needs
[16:16] <Jancsy> g'day. :)
[16:16] <ikonia> grkblood13: check out the link and it will help you with not only this software requirment but your others, as there is very little comercial software for linux
[16:16] <grkblood13> like what iceroot said
[16:16] <Kettlen> I'm trying to build a home NAS - can Ubuntu server go into suspend mode, or only Ubuntu desktop?
[16:16] <steffan> grkblood13: that link provides all the information that is required to search for software, which is what you initially asked for
[16:16] <grkblood13> thats actually useful
[16:16] <scunizi> grkblood13: you want something for personal finance? kmymoney, gnucash and others
[16:16] <Slart> grkblood13: apt-cache search tax accounting   would give you a list of some software where the description includeds those two words.. you can also use synaptic to search for packages with certain words.. is this not useful?
[16:17] <ikonia> Kettlen: you can suspend ubuntu server, however why not use the desktop, it makes a great server OS
[16:17] <iceroot> grkblood13: its the same ubottu told you but which a gui instead of cli
[16:17] <macman_> question you guys xangua or sebsebseb ... according to the laptoptestingteam .. a dell stuiod 15 works fine .. im looking at t dell studio xps from best buy ..do you think that will be good ?
[16:18] <ikonia> macman_: most dells are well supported
[16:18] <macman_> ok
[16:18] <Kettlen> ikonia: I suppose. I don't know a lot about Ubuntu, trying to figure out how to do it all! I'll be using a 4gb USB as OS-drive and 2x1TB drives in software RAID, serving files on the network, making backups and downloading torrents
[16:18] <macman_> ikonia: out of box ?
[16:18] <macman_> yea this dell im on now is a dell precision m90 .. everything works :P
[16:18] <ikonia> Kettlen: the desktop OS will be fine, I assure you, plus it will be easier for you to learn while you set it up
[16:18] <ikonia> macman_: yes, out of the box
[16:19] <ikonia> Kettlen: putting your OS on a USB disk may not be the best move, try to use an internal bus drive
[16:19] <Roasted> How dirty of a job would it be to take my existing Ubuntu install on my laptop (1 partition) and separate root from home?
[16:19] <gui7> what would i add to my crontab to have a particular script run every 30 minutes?
[16:19] <sebsebseb> macman_: Apparantly bestuby aren't that good to buy from,  probably better to just buy online from one of those sites I gave you
[16:19] <gui7> instead of at time X, just every 30mins
[16:19] <ikonia> Roasted: have you got spare disk space ?
[16:19] <Kettlen> ikonia: thanks for the tip! why not a USB drive, by the way?
[16:19] <ikonia> Kettlen: slower interface
[16:19] <sillyCEO> Anyone? Bueller?
[16:19] <ikonia> Kettlen: so your core OS would be on the slowest interface
[16:19] <Roasted> ikonia, yes. My boss (work laptop) gave me a 250gb drive - upgraded from 160. I installed Ubuntu without thinking and I have 1 partition. I ALWAYS manually edit root and home separate. I failed this time. :(
[16:20] <Slart> Roasted: if you've got the space it isn't to hard.. copying the files over will use up most of the time spent
[16:20] <ikonia> sillyCEO: saying anyone is pointless, if they know the answer they will respond, if they don't "anyone" won't make them know, if they didn't see the question "anyone" doesn't expalin it
[16:20] <iceroot> gui7: */30 * * * * script
[16:20] <jaydawg> should i trust all the software in the Ubuntu Software Center? All of it is open source right meaning someone looked at the code and think its safe
[16:20] <Kettlen> ikonia: well, I'll be using 2 S-ATA drives for the backup and file sharing, which is the essential part. Would that be affected by the USB performance (if the OS is on USB drive)?
[16:20] <sanskumar> help
[16:20] <Roasted> Slart, it's really an almost brand new install. Theres not much there. I was just going to install a VM of win7 (calls for 20gb, ouch) and I decided this is where I should split them before I get too involved on this install.
[16:20] <steffan> gui7: */30 * * * *
[16:20] <ikonia> Roasted: is all the disk allocated ? (not in use but allocated)
[16:20] <sillyCEO> ikonia: Excellent point. Sorry.
[16:20] <steffan> iceroot: sorry!
[16:20] <gui7> iceroot, i understand - thanks! :D
[16:20] <ikonia> Kettlen: yes
[16:20] <sebsebseb> sanskumar: with?
[16:21] <Kettlen> oh ok I'll have to get a solid state drive then (want silence)
[16:21] <sillyCEO> ikonia: what's the etiquette for how often to ask?
[16:21] <sanskumar> i have installed new xchat irc on my laptop
[16:21] <ikonia> Kettlen: there are many VERY quiet drives on the market, you don't need solid state
[16:21] <sanskumar> wen i try to connect to freenode
[16:21] <sanskumar> it says
[16:21] <Roasted> ikonia, Im booted to gparted right now. My partitions are - 30gb NTFS, 1gb swap, 11gb root, 125gb /images (for imaging, work purposes), and 65gb unallocated. So I'm trying to squeeze in about 60gb to /home...
[16:21] <ikonia> sillyCEO: common sense really, 5 - 10 minutes
[16:21] <sanskumar> connection failed
[16:21] <ikonia> sillyCEO: if tons of new people join, it's also worth asking
[16:21] <iceroot> sanskumar: #freenode
[16:21] <sanskumar> how to register for freenode ?
[16:21] <Slart> Roasted: use gparted to create the new partition where your home will be (shrink, move, do whatever you have to in gparted), copy the files over from the current home folder to the new partition.. edit fstab and include your new home drive... reboot.. make sure everything works
[16:22] <iceroot> sanskumar: ask in #freenode
[16:22] <Kettlen> ikonia: actually I realize now that the MB I bought only has 2 S-ATA. Would it be stupid to put the OS on my mirrored 2x1TB disks?
[16:22] <Slart> !register | sanskumar
[16:22] <sillyCEO> ikonia: k, thx.
[16:22] <zacktu> How can I get the "Save As" dialog not to show hidden files?
[16:22] <Roasted> Slart, what should my setting in fstab be? Should I just match them to what root is? Like the defaults - 0 2, or whatever?
[16:22] <ikonia> Roasted: that is pefect, create a partition on your 65 gig unallocated, put a file system on it, mount it on /mnt, copy the contents of /home to /mnt, unmount /mnt, put an entry in /etc/fstab for /home to be on your new partition, reboot, and your done
[16:22] <sanskumar> #freenode
[16:22] <sanskumar> sorry
[16:22] <jaydawg> anyone know if its ok to trust password managers on ubuntu software center? open source on the repository means its been looked at and safe right?
[16:22] <duffydack> zacktu, ctrl H
[16:22] <ikonia> Kettlen: that would be fine, and very resillient, good idea
[16:22] <sebsebseb> sanskumar: ok I don't use Xchat,  I use Konversation instead which is a pretty nice one, but KDE app, so if you were to put that on in Ubuntu/Gnome it would want to put on quite a bit of KDE stuff on as well, if you haven't installed KDE stuff before.   Anyway someone else can probably help here with Xchat or join #freenode and ask about it
[16:22] <Roasted> ikonia, can I do all of this within gparted itself? Does it have a file manager to do this?
[16:22] <Slart> Roasted: yes.. change / to /home  and the uuid's.. that should do it
[16:23] <ikonia> Roasted: because you're not altering a partition thats in use, yes.
[16:23] <Kettlen> ikonia: In that case though, would I need to have hardware RAID, or could it be done via Ubuntu somehow? I don't think my motherboard has RAID built in
[16:23] <Roasted> slart, ikonia, awesome - thanks guys. I'll give this a whirl now.
[16:23] <macman_> ikonia: xxploit sebsebseb what do you think about this one http://is.gd/6WoYj < ---
[16:23] <ikonia> Kettlen: software raid is very very good
[16:23] <ikonia> macman_: it's a dell - you've been told dells are well supported
[16:24] <Kettlen> ikonia: so I can install it on one of the drives first, and then have Ubuntu copy that disk to the other?
[16:24] <ikonia> macman_: what more do you want ?
[16:24] <macman_> ikonia: oh nothing .. just want you to see the quality :D
[16:24] <ikonia> Kettlen: linux (ubuntu) comes with software raid, if you use the alternative install CD you can install to software raid (mirrored)
[16:24] <ikonia> Kettlen: it works very very well
[16:24] <macman_> 6gigs ram :D
[16:24] <ikonia> macman_: so ?
[16:24] <Slart> Roasted: you might want to rename the old /home folder to something else  before rebooting... /oldhome or something like that
[16:24] <Roasted> slart, ikonia - would it be hard to swap my partitions around, so I see it as root/home/images instead of root/images/home? Or is it kind of useless?
[16:25] <ikonia> Roasted: does it matter ?
[16:25] <macman_> ikonia: nvm .. just wanted you guys to do a once over .. im good
[16:25] <clamiax> bye
[16:25] <Slart> Roasted: there's no reason to do that.. perhaps a very small speed difference.. and lots of time wasted
[16:25] <sebsebseb> macman_: i'll have a look hold on
[16:25] <Roasted> Slart -well my install is so minimal, I was just going to flash drive the contents of /home + hidden folders and mount it, reboot, and throw them back over.
[16:25] <ikonia> Roasted: the order of the partitions means nothing
[16:25] <Kettlen> ikonia: OK I see. If I put the OS on this mirrored set of drives - would they constantly have to be spinning? Or at least, spin up as soon as the OS needs to read to/from a file?
[16:25] <Slart> Roasted: ah.. that might work too.. don't forget all the hidden files though
[16:26] <ikonia> Kettlen: correct (I forgot you wanted to hibernate)
[16:26] <Roasted> slart, ikonia - that's all I was curious about, was whether or not there'd be a speed difference... but then again, having images being in the front may help since thats where I pull images off the drive and push them through the network for pxe boot imaging.
[16:26] <ikonia> Roasted: it won't matter, I promise
[16:27] <Roasted> ikonia, I guess the fact Im on a 7200rpm drive now instead of 5400rpm would be there I would see any speed difference.
[16:27] <sebsebseb> macman_: oh it's on Bestbuy, probably better to buy directly from Dell
[16:27] <ikonia> Roasted: you wouldn't anyway
[16:27] <Slart> Roasted: the speed difference is very very very small.. even if it would only take 60 seconds to switch them around I wouldn't do it.. it's not worth it
[16:27] <Roasted> slart - good deal man. That's all I was curious about.
[16:27] <Roasted> thanks slart, ikonia.
[16:27] <Slart> Roasted: you're welcome
[16:27] <ikonia> no problem
[16:27] <sebsebseb> macman_: you want to buy pre installed Ubuntu
[16:28] <sebsebseb> macman_: not  anything with Windows on it first,  to be sure it will work without any  problems
[16:28] <scorpion_> sa;iy a;;
[16:28] <scorpion_> salut
[16:28] <scorpion_> all
[16:28] <steffan> what is the safest way to remove the sample media such as the videos and sounds that come with an ubuntu installation?
[16:28] <ikonia> steffan: delete them
[16:28] <macman_> sebsebseb: no .. i now how to install ubuntu fine
[16:28] <steffan> ikonia: individually, or by using something like 'sudo apt-get --purge remove ubuntu-sounds'
[16:28] <sebsebseb> macman_: right, but all your hardware might not just work, wireless for example
[16:29] <ikonia> steffan: ahh, if they are in a package, removing the package is great
[16:29] <steffan> ikonia: in other words, is there a way to just purge all the samples in one go? :)
[16:29] <ikonia> steffan: open the package manager and remove all the sound themes
[16:29] <Slart> !info example-content | steffan
[16:30] <matyfulda> ű
[16:30] <sebsebseb> macman_: and if you want Windows as well on there,  I guess you can buy something similar to what they are selling pre installed with Ubuntu, and your probably ok.   http://www.dell.com/ubuntu
[16:30] <steffan> Slart: that package is the one containing all of the sample content?
[16:30] <Slart> steffan: you could try removing that package.. or purging it.. make sure it doesn't bring the rest of your system with it
[16:30] <steffan> Slart: :)
[16:30] <matyfulda> ale
[16:31] <matyfulda> game
[16:31] <lifestream> I'm adding a CD to fstab (don't laugh xD) and I'm checking its info on Disk Utility.  The CD is mounted, and it says "Unparitioned Media"/ "Not Partitioned".  Then what do I put in fstab? :P
[16:31] <macman_> sebsebseb: yea you are right .. well the laptoptetingteam you gave me has a dell studio 15 that works fine .. im lookinat at a dell stuido 17 inch .. i think it should be the same
[16:32] <macman_> i need a 17 inch
[16:32] <matyfulda> milan
[16:32] <nomnex> Gnome question: Menu Places, over a few folders Jaunty grouped them in a sub-link, in Karmic all the folders are directly under Places (they don't compact to a sub-link) do you confirm the change?
[16:32] <sebsebseb> macman_: well the screen isn't the issue, that should work fine with Ubuntu or Windows, or well loads of other OS's as well
[16:32] <scunizi> macman_: pay attention to the upgrades available.. nvidia card, wireless etc.. research and pick what works best on linux & ubuntu
[16:33] <MrShadow> udv all
[16:33] <yadudoc> Hi , An opensolaris installation screwed up my partition table, which I almost fixed using Testdisk, Now an fdisk -l prints out the partition layout but gparted shows my harddrive only as unallocated space... Does anyone know how to fix this ?
[16:33] <marco> ciao a tutti
[16:33] <sebsebseb> marco: yeah what scunizi put is good
[16:33] <sebsebseb> marco: whoops
[16:33] <sebsebseb> macman_: ^
[16:34] <marco> chi parla italiano
[16:34] <sebsebseb> !it | marco
[16:35] <pulse00> hi all. i've a problem connecting from my ubuntu server via ssh to another server, i get a "connection refused" message. i can connect to my server without problems. anyone knows where i can check if the firewall blocks the outgoing conection?=
[16:35] <marco> grazie
[16:36] <jtaji> nomnex: looks like the limits been raised a bit
[16:36] <macman_> sebsebseb: if it is close on teh website i will just get it .. i won't be ugprading anytime soon
[16:37] <sebsebseb> macman_: yeah not that sure what scunizi meant by upgrade actsaulley
[16:37] <sebsebseb> macman_: I guess most Dell's will be good with Ubuntu though
[16:37] <BlueSherpa> is there a good forum / mailing list for Ubuntu related questions?
[16:37] <lolo> hola a tos
[16:37] <sebsebseb> !es | lolo
[16:38] <nomnex> jtaji, thanks, I was wondering.
[16:38] <sebsebseb> macman_: oh and it's nice to buy something with only Ubuntu pre installed.  support that a bit you know,  but at the end of the day, that's ok if you  want Windows and so get something pre installed with it
[16:38] <scunizi> sebsebseb: macman_ when I got my Vostro 1400 I had a choice of sticking with the basics or changing video and wireless card .. I changed them.. I put nvidia in and Intel Pro/wireless 3945abg card.
[16:39] <sebsebseb> macman_: that's something else,  I was thinking about earlier as well,  you can customize Dell's on the website
[16:39] <jakeheath1987> does anyone know how to install a Canon ip1500 on karmic? i've tried installing the printer drivers from canon and I've also tried using system ->admin->printer and going through the wizard but no luck
[16:39] <sillyCEO> When I switch off my WIFI router, ubuntu throws up a dialog ("Authentication require by wireless network"). I'm leaving this unsupervised, so I want NO dialog... just want it to keep trying to hop back on. Any ideas? :)
[16:40] <sebsebseb> macman_: can you customize the Bestbuy Dell's as well?
[16:40] <Ne0n> Hello, could someone help me? I have some problems with wireless, it doesn't work
[16:40] <sebsebseb> !wireless | Ne0n
[16:40] <sebsebseb> jakeheath1987: I think canon aren't much good with Ubuntu, canon printers
[16:40] <sebsebseb> !cups | jakeheath1987
[16:41] <catphish> sillyCEO: i believe what you're describing only happens if you previously tried and failed to connect to someone else's encrypted wiki
[16:41] <scunizi> macman_: sebsebseb if you're looking at buying a laptop from dell.. go to their site.. look in the business section.. prices are better and all you have to do is tell them you're self imployed in some fashion.
[16:41] <catphish> sillyCEO: *wifi
[16:41] <scunizi> *employed
[16:41] <nomnex> jakeheath1987, it works for me just fine on a i6500 with the i9500 driver or check here if your printer is supported (fee)
[16:41] <underfire> hi
[16:41] <catphish> sillyCEO: because it adds their wifi to its list of APs to try and connect to, so when yours goes offline it tries theirs and pops up the dialog
[16:42] <sebsebseb> scunizi: that sounds like a little trick,  and  I guess that varys by countrey
[16:42] <nomnex> http://www.turboprint.info/
[16:42] <underfire> is there anyone here
[16:42] <catphish> sillyCEO: i believe it can be removed using gconf-editor
[16:42] <Slart> underfire: yes, 1354 people besides yourself at the latest count
[16:42] <jakeheath1987> sebsebseb: and ubottu: thanks a lot for you help
[16:42] <Tallken> hey, is it me or bug #423694 && #421347 are dups?
[16:42] <sebsebseb> jakeheath1987: good luck
[16:43] <sebsebseb> !thanks | jakeheath1987
[16:43] <catphish> can someone tell me what packages are involved in automounting removable media in 9.10 - I uninstalled f-spot and my removable media stopped working
[16:43] <Tallken> ubottu, #423694
[16:43] <ultraparadigm> Domo Arigato Ubottu
[16:44] <sillyCEO> catphish: Not sure what you mean by an 'encrypted wiki', but I see your point: maybe I delete all other WIFI networks in the list?
[16:44] <pulse00> anyone know how i can check if the firewall blocks outgoing ssh connections?
[16:44] <jpds> Tallken: ubottu doesn't report bugs here.
[16:44] <underfire> does anyone can tell me is ubuntu 9.14 is released or not
[16:44] <underfire> ??
[16:44] <jpds> Tallken: Best ask in #ubuntu-bugs.
[16:44] <jpds> underfire: No.
[16:44] <gui7> i've got a folder with various wallpapers and i'd like them to rotate every 30 minutes - the scripts i've foudn are eitehr very complicated or don't work well, what's the best way of doing this?
[16:44] <catphish> sillyCEO@ encrypted WIFI i meant
[16:44] <scunizi> catphish: do you mean that usb doesn't automount anymore?
[16:44] <Tallken> jpds, thanks :)
[16:44] <jpds> underfire: There never was a 9.14.
[16:44] <sebsebseb> catphish: f-spot is a graphics viewer and basic editing program, that uses Mono.  so it doesn't really have anything much to do with  automounting, except I guess your camera?  will get mounted and then f-spot can access it?   however removing f-spot shoud be fine
[16:44] <sillyCEO> catphish: I will check out gconfeditor. How do I do that? (noob, sorry)
[16:44] <Ne0n> What to do, if ubuntu don't find any network drivers?
[16:44] <scunizi> underfire: there never was and never will be a 9.14.. the next one is 10.04
[16:44] <underfire> how does it come
[16:44] <underfire> ?
[16:44] <steffan> sillyCEO: clear the list apart from the one that you intentionally connected too, i'm assuming that this is caused by a previous failed connection which is now marking that network as one that you want to connect too
[16:45] <Slart> underfire: first number is the year, second is the month of the release.. 10.04 is the next release.. due 2010, month 4
[16:45] <catphish> sillyCEO: run gconf-editor - its like window registry editor, look around for wifi network lists
[16:45] <underfire> dell mini 10
[16:45] <sillyCEO> steffan: good idea, thanx- will try now.
[16:45] <sillyCEO> catphish: will do that too, thanks.
[16:45] <jpds> !releases | underfire
[16:45] <underfire> oh i understand now thank u
[16:45] <underfire> :D
[16:45] <sebsebseb> !mount |  catphish
[16:46] <goose_> what's the command to create a tarball from terminal? I want to tar a 3 GiB dir on my server so I can wget back it up onto my local machine
[16:46] <steffan> goose_: tar -cf [name of tarball].tar [list of files or directories]
[16:46] <catphish> scunizi: sebsebseb: yes - usb mass storage and SD cards have both stopped automounting into gnome on all user accounts, i know f-spot isnt related, but it stopped working around the time i removed it, and when i removed it, a lot of dependant packages were also removed
[16:47] <steffan> goose_: and then to compress it with maximum compression use gzip -9 [file].tar
[16:47] <catphish> sebsebseb: i can manually mount the devices no problem, its just that gnome isnt automounting them
[16:47] <goose_> steffan: tar -cf web_stuff.tar /home/goose/www
[16:47] <goose_> steffan: I need to compress it twice?
[16:47] <ribot> hi
[16:47] <underfire> i have another question is the next release will be in april
[16:47] <underfire> of that year
[16:48] <Slart> underfire: yes
[16:48] <jpds> underfire: April, this year.
[16:48] <sebsebseb> catphish: I thinkt here might be some sort of Karmic bug, if I remember correctly  the release notes maybe mentions something
[16:48] <Slart> !lucid | underfire
[16:48] <sebsebseb> !notes | catphish
[16:48] <ribot> im trying to edit crontab, and my default editor is set to nano...yet when i run sudo crontab -e nano doesnt open
[16:48] <catphish> thanks
[16:48] <jpds> goose_, steffan: Or just do: tar cvzf [name].tar.gz dir/ directly
[16:48] <steffan> goose_: a tarball is just a bunch of files inside one, who mentioned compressing it twice?
[16:48] <ohir> goose_: tar -cf - /home/goose/www | gzip -9 > web_stuff.tar.gz
[16:48] <jpds> ohir: See my suggestion. :)
[16:49] <sebsebseb> catphish: then again your issue seems to of happended after using the install for a while.  probably nothing useful in those notes, but they are good to look at anyway
[16:49] <ohir> goose_: or tar -jcf web_stuff.tbz /home/goose/www
[16:49] <goose_> jpds: tar -cvzf webstuff.tar.gz /home/goose/www
[16:49] <ohir> goose_: what uses bzip2 compression, about 20% smaller than gzip one
[16:49] <goose_> or do I need the dir to be /home/goose/www/ (trailing /)
[16:49] <jpds> goose_: You can omit the - entirely.
[16:50] <catphish> ribot: have you tried "select-editor"
[16:50] <aropupu> hi ppl, i have a fresh install of karmic and i would need to do some stuff which requires me to kill x, but it seems that i haven't got any tty:s at all
[16:50] <aropupu> google suggested broken /etc/init/tty?.conf-files but they seem to be okay
[16:50] <jrib> aropupu: what stuff?
[16:51] <aropupu> jrib: that's not the issue, the missing tty's are
[16:51] <ribot> i have selected nano as default editor, yet when running sudo crontab -e nano isnt open..but something with a question mark is there
[16:51] <catphish> so can anyone tell me what process is reponsible for automounting of inserted mass storage devices in 9.10
[16:51] <steffan> sillyCEO: for future reference there is also a ton of documentation on WifiDocs at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/
[16:51] <Slart> aropupu: you get a blank screen when you press CTRL+ALT+F1?
[16:51] <jrib> aropupu: I understand this.  Yet it may be related.
[16:51] <aropupu> Slart: yeah, black except for a blinking cursor
[16:51] <erUSUL> catphish: devicekit disks
[16:51] <adac> ssh login (authentication) is very slow on my ubuntu server. Any ideas what might be wrong?
[16:51] <aaron11> Does anyone know how tochange the channelon aireplay-ng? I wrote the bssid and stuffon mon0 but the channel remains 1. I want to change it to 6, Thanks!
[16:52] <Slart> aropupu: hmm.. no errors in syslog ? nothing in dmesg?
[16:52] <grek> hy
[16:52] <Ne0n> when i do dmesg, i got that iwlagn.... mac is in deep sleep!
[16:52] <grek> i have this menu.lst
[16:52] <catphish> erUSUL: does devicekit just send signals to something in gnome?
[16:52] <Ne0n> what to do?
[16:52] <grek> http://wklej.to/dKRT
[16:52] <erUSUL> catphish: probably; over dbus
[16:52] <ribot> how to open crontab with nano?
[16:52] <seanp8088> can I grep through multiple files in perl without looping over opening each file?
[16:53] <aropupu> Slart: what should i be looking for in there?
[16:53] <Setarcos> hi
[16:53] <grek> this is correct ? - when i run ubuntu - i get cant monut selected partition
[16:53] <streep> Man aireplay-nh
[16:53] <pat|nG> how can i change my kubuntu to plain ubuntu 9.10?
[16:53] <aropupu> Slart: at least, dmesg|grep tty just gives me [    0.001525] console [tty0] enabled
[16:53] <Setarcos> how can i change my sudo pass?
[16:53] <seanp8088> oops, wrong channel :)
[16:53] <Slart> aropupu: well... hopefully something like "TTYS broken.. try running blablabla to fix" =)
[16:54] <aropupu> Slart: :D
[16:54] <Seveas> Setarcos, your sudo pass is your user pass, so change your user pass :)
[16:54] <KrisKo> any idea how to get ID from hardisk?
[16:54] <sebsebseb> Setarcos: boot into recovery mode, from Grub,   get the root prompt.  passwd username,  put in new password
[16:54] <erUSUL> Setarcos: System>Preferences>About Me ; press the change password button
[16:54] <Slart> !uuid | KrisKo
[16:54] <sebsebseb> Setarcos: or what erUSUL put
[16:54] <scunizi> KrisKo: uuid?  sudo blkid
[16:54] <grek> this is blklist
[16:55] <grek> http://wklej.to/LlFu
[16:55] <ribot> ok when i run crontab -e all that is says is 29....how to write in that mysterious editor?
[16:55] <underfire> i have another question their r a video in youtube adv to dell mini 10 their r a verison of ubuntu it totally differs than the version 9.4 or even version 8.4 i think its 10.4
[16:55] <KrisKo> thats it, thanks
[16:55] <pat|nG> how can i change my kubuntu to plain ubuntu 9.10?
[16:55] <greenlantern> Is there any dvd for ubuntu ?
[16:55] <aaron11> Does anyone know how tochange the channelon aireplay-ng? I wrote the bssid and stuffon mon0 but the channel remains 1. I want to change it to 6, Thanks!
[16:55] <scunizi> underfire: nope.. probably UNR .. Ubuntu Netbook Remix
[16:56] <sebsebseb> pat|nG: which did you install when you put on, Ubuntu or Kubuntu?  when  you put on from CD or however you installed it?
[16:56] <KrisKo> pat|nG: you need to install gnome
[16:56] <Setarcos> erUSUL, i use xfce
[16:56] <underfire> maybe
[16:56] <jtaji> !puregnome | pat|nG
[16:56] <sebsebseb> Setarcos: well my suggestion works, whatever desktop environment you use
[16:57] <streep> Aaron probally -channel 6 look at man files
[16:57] <greenlantern> geirha: Is there any dvd for ubuntu ?
[16:57] <wasutton3> I have a problem sharing a printer. i am trying to daisy chain a printer across a vpn and virtual machine, but when i try to do so, i get the message "Shared printers are not available to other people unless the 'Publish shared printers' option is enabled in the server settings." where is this switch/
[16:57] <sebsebseb> jtaji: I was going  to do that, but if pat|nG   he intalled Kubuntu, maybe woudn't work as well.   I guess it works as long as both are installed Kubuntu and Ubuntu
[16:57] <erUSUL> Setarcos: then use "passwd" in a terminal
[16:57] <macman_> sebsebseb: you still there ?
[16:58] <ribot> ok when i run crontab -e all that is says is 29....how to write in that mysterious editor?
[16:58] <sebsebseb> macman_: yep
[16:58] <jtaji> pat|nG: sebsebseb: with that command you would either want to have ubuntu-desktop installed already and logged into gnome, or do it from a console
[16:58] <yadudoc> Hi , An opensolaris installation screwed up my partition table, which I almost fixed using Testdisk, Now an fdisk -l prints out the partition layout but gparted shows my harddrive only as unallocated space... Does anyone know how to fix this ?
[16:58] <erUSUL> ribot: if it shows a ? is probably ed
[16:58] <underfire> is their any new verision for linex mine?
[16:58] <sebsebseb> jtaji: well puregnome command, when Gnome isn't running yeah
[16:58] <Slart> ribot: what editor is it? try opening another terminal and run top, see if you see something like nano, vim
[16:58] <steffan> ribot: change the default editor to something you're more comfortable with using 'sudo update-alternatives –config editor' and then 'crontab -e'
[16:59] <Slart> underfire: Linux Mint?
[16:59] <underfire> yeah
[16:59] <Slart> underfire: this channel is for Ubuntu, Linux Mint is another distro.. check their site
[16:59] <macman_> sebsebseb: sebsebseb im looking at http://is.gd/6WvOh < -- according to this there is no issues right .. but if you go down the jaunty list .. some things have yes to them if they work or not .. there is a wireless part that has no yes or no on it .. does that mean it dosen't work or not ?
[16:59] <steffan> ribot: that should have been '-config editor' and not '?config editor'
[16:59] <dafatthing> hi there
[16:59] <underfire> oh okay
[16:59] <underfire> thanks
[16:59] <ribot> steffan: nano is already set, but it doesnt run nano
[16:59] <sebsebseb> yadudoc: well I guess the partition is gone, if gparted only shows unalloacted space
[16:59] <sebsebseb> yadudoc: also testdisk seems to only work on deleted partitions
[16:59] <joh6nn> i'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty.  I've tried disabling ipv6 and a few other things, but nothing seems to help
[17:00] <ribot> i dont know what editor it is, it is the editor that only writes '29'
[17:00] <dafatthing> kswapd is running with 100% cpu load
[17:00] <sebsebseb> yadudoc: well it can access  partitions that are there, but  it seems to show deleted files the partition has to be deleted from the  partition table
[17:00] <tony> Hi, 9.10 here, is the Kodak ESP-3 printer supported?
[17:00] <steffan> ribot: vi maybe. try 'EDITOR=nano && crontab -e'
[17:00] <dafatthing> and 12kb of swap are used, out of 64gb
[17:00] <sebsebseb> tony: probably not,  Kodak seem to dislike desktop Linux, big time
[17:01] <dafatthing> does anyone have a tip how to stop/restart kswapd?
[17:01] <yadudoc> sebsebseb, hmm... but i'm running ubuntu9.10 on the same disk :O Its only gparted which is having issues detecting the partition layout
[17:01] <dafatthing> other processes are running with 100% too, but i
[17:01] <dafatthing> 'm guessing thats due to kswapd
[17:01] <anthony> hi
[17:01] <Slart> tony: have a look at http://linuxprinting.org
[17:01] <tony> slart: thanks
[17:02] <anthony> so how do u use this chat
[17:02] <ribot> steffan: -bash: EDITOR=nano && crontab-e: command not found
[17:02] <anthony> im new
[17:02] <yadudoc> sebsebseb, I fixed the partition table using testdisk... now fdisk has no issues listing out the partitions either... so it must be something with gparted right ?
[17:02] <anthony> whats this chat about
[17:02] <Slart> ribot: remove the   &&
[17:03] <Slart> ribot: just    EDITOR=nano crontab -e
[17:03] <sick_fox> hello, can anybody help with ssh connection in ubuntu between 2 machines?
[17:03] <dafatthing> searching for kswapd and high cpu load only returns a lot of forum threads with similar problems
[17:03] <dafatthing> but not one solution
[17:03] <Slart> !details | sick_fox
[17:03] <steffan> !anyone | sick_fox
[17:03] <sillyCEO> steffan: thanks for the link!
[17:03] <steffan> sillyCEO: no problem
[17:03] <Slart> dafatthing: usually all you have to do it install the openssh-server package on the host
[17:04] <Ne0n> I really need help with my problem, Ubuntu doesn't find any wireless devices. what to do?
[17:04] <claudiu> I have problems sending files through pidgin, you have this problem?
[17:04] <steffan> ribot: if that still doesn't work then check that you actually have nano installed on your system, and open up .bashrc and check if it is actually set as the default editor (for the future)
[17:04] <erUSUL> Ne0n: what is you wifi chip?
[17:04] <d0c> How do i turn off the GNU GRUB options on startup?.. I want it to go straght into Ubuntu
[17:04] <sebsebseb> macman_: wow that's not been updated for quite a while, see date at the bottom
[17:04] <ribot> it worked Slart , thanks
[17:04] <sick_fox> ubottu Slart I ve got one nb connected via cable to router, one nb connected via wifi to router and router connected to switch and switch connected to ubiquti box to WAN
[17:05] <Ne0n> erusul: intel wifi link 5100
[17:05] <jorgen> how to change mac address
[17:05] <ribot> steffan nano works and is installed..just it doesnt run by default, even so that it is selected as default
[17:05] <sebsebseb> macman_: that page is not that useful
[17:05] <bitplane2> Hello, I think I have a bug to report, though I'm not sure about the details. How can I check to see if librsvg is compiled without "--with-svgz"? The reason is that .svgz files don't have thumbnails in nautilus, but if I rename a svg file to svgz it creates a thumbnail
[17:05] <Slart> sick_fox: can the computer reach each other using this network? try ping
[17:06] <sebsebseb> yadudoc: got more than one hard disk in there?
[17:06] <jrib> !source | bitplane2
[17:06] <jrib> bitplane2: read debian/rules
[17:06] <bitplane2> thanks guys
[17:06] <yadudoc> sebsebseb, well yes... i have an external drive as well ? that doesn't change the situation much does it ?
[17:06] <Kettlen> ikonia: are you still around?
[17:07] <sebsebseb> yadudoc: gparted might be showing your external drive or something
[17:07] <sebsebseb> !hardware |  macman_
[17:07] <yadudoc> sebsebseb, I know my harddisk :)
[17:07] <sebsebseb> macman_: have a look at that one
[17:07] <bitplane2> oh, I mean thanks *jrib*, didn't read the bot's name (/slaps self)
[17:08] <joh6nn> i'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty.  I've tried disabling ipv6 and a few other things, but nothing seems to help
[17:08] <yadudoc> sebsebseb, there is nothing wrong with the harddisk except that gparted doesn't see the layout( well that means somthings wrong, but not very serious i hope)
[17:08] <sebsebseb> yadudoc: what's on the disk?
[17:09] <macman_> i think i found my laptop
[17:09] <mezquitale> anyone knows how to update punkbuster in enemy territory?
[17:09] <sick_fox> my problem seems to be more complex I ll check it later
[17:09] <bitplane2> hmm.. it has the --with-svgz flag, I guess it must be the thumbnailer then :/
[17:09] <sebsebseb> joh6nn: sounds like Karmic to me,  something that used to work fine in jaunty no longer does
[17:09] <sebsebseb> joh6nn: is that an upgrade or a clean install?
[17:10] <werdnaelliott> hello, i'm new to ubuntu and was wondering if there was a way you can change how much the volume increases or decreases with every button push (on my laptop's external volume buttons)
[17:10] <joh6nn> sebsebseb: yeah, that's about where i am.
[17:10] <sebsebseb> Johnm: what?
[17:10] <joh6nn> sebsebseb: i always do clean installs; i've had bad luck with upgrades
[17:10] <sebsebseb> joh6nn: what?
[17:10] <sebsebseb> oh so this is a clean install hrm
[17:10] <jrib> bitplane2: check gconf-editor, that's where thumbnail programs are defined for nautilus I believe.  I'm guessing it just doesn't list svgz.  You might want to check bugs.gnome.org and bugs.ubuntu.com too
[17:11] <sebsebseb> useaully upgrades go well, just many people had issues jaunty to karmic
[17:11] <sebsebseb> joh6nn: and wireless is a problem area
[17:11] <bitplane2> thanks jrib.. I've just come from bugs.gnome.org, I'll check the others :)
[17:11] <sebsebseb> joh6nn: not my area as such, but this might help
[17:12] <sebsebseb> !wireless | joh6nn
[17:12] <joh6nn> sebsebseb: thanks, i'll give that a shot
[17:12] <sebsebseb> Johnm: no reply when I didn't high light you above to that, did you miss it?
[17:12] <devon> hello
[17:13] <devon> hello whats up
[17:13] <sebsebseb> joh6nn: hrm quite a few joh  names here.  that's twice the auto complete messed up.  see above
[17:13] <devon> how are you all doing
[17:13] <jorgerosa> Hello all
[17:13] <devon> what is this
[17:14] <sebsebseb> !ubuntu | devon
[17:14] <Roasted> slart, ikonia - still here?
[17:14] <sebsebseb> devon: a channel for support with that
[17:14] <Slart> Roasted: yup
[17:14] <devon> ooh thankyou
[17:14] <Roasted> slart - I think I might just nuke this install. I copied my home dir to a flash drive, mounted to fstab, and it is bombarding me with errors upon login
[17:14] <sebsebseb> devon: np
[17:15] <Roasted> slart - I got some errors with certain files copying (perm denied) and I didtn want to change the perms in case I screwed it up. so I just took what would copy.
[17:15] <BenB> in the past, I have used the built-in VNC server in the Xorg server (enabled in xorg.conf: module "vnc", "usevnc" "on"). how do I do that in ubuntu 9.10, which doesn't have an xorg.conf
[17:15] <joh6nn> sebsebseb: not sure i follow; what are you asking?
[17:15] <Slart> Roasted: ouch.. never had that happen to me when I've done it.. but I never did it exactly that way
[17:15] <sebsebseb> joh6nn: oh  nothing important, it just seemed when I didn't high light you, I never got a reply to what I put
[17:16] <jorgerosa> I´ve developed that free game: http://ffiles.com/flash/games/flaquiztv_2784.html?comments_to_show=500
[17:16] <jorgerosa> anyone knows how to make a deb file from .exe (projector) or from .swf file?
[17:16] <jorgerosa> If it is possible, of course... the idea was to be firefox + flash independent (auto executable)
[17:16] <Roasted> slart - well its no big deal.  It'd probably be easier and more practical to start from ground up.
[17:16] <bitplane2> jrib, I can't find "svg" or "svgz" in gconf-editor
[17:16] <BenB> jorgerosa: you can't, exe is a Windows application.
[17:16] <bitplane2> does that mean it's internal to nautilus?
[17:16] <Roasted> slart - I kind of expected something to backfire. There was something about taking an existing partition and essentially splitting it in half that made me nervous in terms of its stability afterwards.
[17:17] <jorgerosa> BenB: yep seems to be impossible this way... there is an FLA or flash editor to replace "FLASH PRO" in windows?
[17:17] <joh6nn> sebsebseb: ah, ok.
[17:18] <BenB> jorgerosa: and flash games are not particularly appreciated in Linux, because Flash is proprietary. if you want to hand it to Linux users nevertheless, give them the SWF file and tell them to run "flash yourfile.swf" or something.
[17:18] <bitplane2> jorgerosa, if it runs under gnash you could roll your own standalone app
[17:18] <ribot> does anybody know how to fix charset in webalizer? it looks weird
[17:18] <janosch1992> hello friends
[17:18] <BenB> jorgerosa: in general, you should use a different technology (not Flash), if you want to make games which work well in Linux.
[17:19] <Gliader> sera
[17:19] <BenB> jorgerosa: it may or may not work under gnash, as bitplane2 said
[17:19] <Gliader> !lista
[17:19] <aropupu> okay, some message board threads suggested that removing "splash" from kernel boot options should fix the missing tty's but it didn't work for me
[17:19] <aropupu> if anyone has _any_ ideas about what to do, i'm all ears
[17:20] <sebsebseb> jorgerosa: OpenGL for games that aren't website games
[17:20] <aropupu> i've kinda run out of options here
[17:20] <jrib> bitplane2: in gconf-editor, desktop/gnome/thumbnailers should list mime types
[17:20] <janosch1992> so what is this channel about?
[17:20] <jorgerosa> BenB, bitplane2: I've found a replace for flash (RED5 has a kind of flash non proprietary), but i think it act only as server :( anyways, i'll search for gnash (i dunno this one) Thx :)
[17:21] <Host12345_> About ubuntu support
[17:21] <janosch1992> is it only technical support or is it even a talking channel :D
[17:21] <sebsebseb> !ubuntu |  jorgerosa
[17:21] <bitplane2> jrib, I looked in there, couldn't see anything for svg (I searched for one that did exist, svg and svgz are not listed though)
[17:21] <jrib> bitplane2: don't know then
[17:21] <sebsebseb> !ot | jorgerosa
[17:21] <BluesKaj> janosch1992, read the message of the day
[17:21] <jrib> bitplane2: bump the bug in gnome if the issue persists and you are sure the library is compiled --with-svgz
[17:22] <janosch1992> ah okay thanks :D
[17:22] <desktop> good morning all
[17:22] <sebsebseb> jorgerosa  wrong one,   janosch1992  see above
[17:22] <janosch1992> #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:22] <masingerz> hi im about to install ubuntu and i see "space unsusable"
[17:22] <sebsebseb> masingerz: right, probably since there is no space at the moment for Ubuntu
[17:23] <ribot> do you know how to set charset in webalizer? it looks weird
[17:23] <jorgerosa> sebsebseb: so, the suggestion is to find out how to convert flash to a deb file in #flash chat?...
[17:23] <bitplane2> jrib, I can't be 100% sure that it's compiled with zlib.. I guess I could compile it myself and see what happens. I'll try that before reporting. Thanks again fo rthe support :)
[17:23] <masingerz> how much space does ubuntu need?
[17:23] <sebsebseb> jorgerosa: you can't just convert Flash into a Deb file
[17:23] <jazz> hello all
[17:23] <sebsebseb> jorgerosa: if you want to make a proper game for Ubuntu and other Linux distributions,  OpenGL is the way to go
[17:23] <masingerz> sebsebseb: i thought it was cause of the 4 primary partition limit
[17:23] <xangua> masingerz: how much are you giving it¿¿
[17:24] <bitplane2> masingerz, what will you use it for? I would say most people don't need more than 5GB, but if you're installing Windows games and all kinds of fun stuff then you may want loads more
[17:24] <d0c> anyone here know if its possible to change the time the GNU GRUB bootloader displays the options... im building a HTPC and im trying to minimise boot time
[17:24] <masingerz> 59 gigas
[17:24] <d0c> ?
[17:24] <Balsaq> anyone running ubuntu wireless
[17:24] <desktop> hi all can someone help me create a launcher icon for a executable program
[17:24] <jorgerosa> sebsebseb: yep, seems so. :( maybe i can convert this to python or so... I have little experience, but i'll try. :)
[17:24] <ribot> d0c yes you can change it
[17:24] <BenB> jorgerosa: you could try to make your next game based on Mozilla / Firefox. you have JavaScript, SVG, HTML, XML, JPG, OGG Theora there available.
[17:24] <sebsebseb> jorgerosa: Flash is uhmm
[17:25] <coolcat> what command can I use to print my ip address?
[17:25] <desktop> balsaq , i am
[17:25] <sebsebseb> jorgerosa: rather propritary and all that,  you can't just convert it into a proper proggramming langauge such as Python
[17:25] <BenB> coolcat: ifconfig
[17:25] <jazz> i use a wireless usb to connect online
[17:25] <d0c> im trying to google how to do it but i dont think im asking the right questions
[17:25] <bitplane2> d0c, yeah you can set the time in seconds... can't find it right now but your keywords are: grub boot menu
[17:26] <ribot> d0c:  sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[17:26] <masingerz> i have sda 1, sda2 unusable sda3 sda4
[17:26] <BenB> coolcat: or /sbin/ifconfig
[17:26] <jorgerosa> sebsebseb: oh!!! i remembered, there is also pyGame! i'll find out if it was what it takes... bbl. Thankyou all!
[17:26] <d0c> thanks, will try that now
[17:26] <pat|nG> how can i change my kubuntu to plain ubuntu 9.10?
[17:27] <pat|nG> i install kubuntu 9.10 and i would like to change it to ubuntu 9.10
[17:27] <pat|nG> how?
[17:27] <jazz> is ifconfig also where i can turn docky into 3-d and turn off the "will shutdown in 60 seconds"
[17:27] <sebsebseb> pat|nG: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[17:27] <jrib> jazz: I doubt it...
[17:27] <pat|nG> wat will happen to my kubuntu kde?
[17:27] <pat|nG> it will be erase?
[17:28] <IdleOne> !puregnome | pat|nG
[17:28] <sebsebseb> pat|nG: it will still be available to you, unless you remove it
[17:28] <sebsebseb> IdleOne: well first he needs Ubuntu installed
[17:28] <IdleOne> sebsebseb: you gave him that command already :)
[17:28] <jazz> i reinstalled  ubuntu 9.10 and forgot how to get the shutdown  timer removed
[17:28] <priya> hi all can someone help me create a launcher icon for a executable program
[17:28] <sebsebseb> pat|nG: you can log into Ubuntu or Kubuntu one will be the default
[17:28] <coolcat> BenB, the inet addr or Bcast?
[17:28] <jazz> hey idleone, how are you?
[17:28] <sebsebseb> pat|nG: you can use most KDE apps inside  Ubuntu/Gnome as well
[17:29] <priya> hi all can someone help me create a launcher for a executable program
[17:29] <BenB> coolcat: inet addr natürlich
[17:29] <IdleOne> jazz: good thank you
[17:29] <jrib> priya: right click -> create launcher ?
[17:29] <BenB> coolcat: inet addr, of course
[17:29] <sebsebseb> pat|nG: if you don't want KDE stuff do that puregnome thing,  after you have Ubuntu installed
[17:29] <bash39> hi all
[17:29] <IdleOne> hello bash39
[17:29] <priya> i have done all that i wont launch in terminal  terminal shuts down right away
[17:29] <bash39> plz what's the name of the bugs channel?
[17:29] <jazz> great,  considering a long day yesterday
[17:30] <jrib> priya: so tell us what you did
[17:30] <zagabar> ANyone knows why my mail service programs like squirrelmail and ability to connect with thunderbird to check my mail starts to fail when I add the following rule? sudo iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE
[17:30] <priya> ok hold on
[17:30] <IdleOne> !bug | bash39
[17:30] <crystalblue> when i try to connect to photobucket.com it shuts down my internet connection on karmic?
[17:30] <IdleOne> bash39: #ubuntu-bugs maybe. not sure about that one
[17:30] <sebsebseb> crystalblue: not sure about that, but  if I remember correctly it's photobucket that don't support Linux properly anymore
[17:30] <BenB> that's because your application quits immediately <priya> i have done all that i wont launch in terminal  terminal shuts down right away
[17:31] <crystalblue> ah ok
[17:31] <crystalblue> thanks
[17:31] <sebsebseb> crystalblue: well flickr and what not as alternatives
[17:31] <XeroXer-> Does anyone know why ddcprobe gives edidfail in 64 bit (ubuntu 9.10), worked great on 32 bit.
[17:31] <crystalblue> will do
[17:31] <sebsebseb> crystalblue: also maybe it's just at the moment you can't get on photobucket, but later on you can
[17:31] <jazz> oh and i have a question on gnome-do if any one can help?
[17:32] <jrib> jazz: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[17:32] <crystalblue> i'll try again in a couple days then.
[17:32] <crystalblue> it works on my mac, just not on my linux machine
[17:32] <BenB> zagabar: please read "how to set up a firewall in linux" documents. you need much more than just one rule.
[17:32] <jazz> ok
[17:32] <sebsebseb> crystalblue: well that's a bit odd in a way
[17:32] <KrisKo> hi, i've changed all fonts in appearance>fonts, but some apps like krusader are still using different font. Where can i set font for menu in krusader?
[17:32] <sebsebseb> crystalblue: it should work on Linux as well, but photobucket might have done something so  Linux users can't just go on it anymore
[17:33] <xangua> jazz: i use do, but if i or all in the channel can't help you, you can try #gnome-do
[17:33] <BenB> zagabar: there might also be an "easy firewall" package in ubuntu.
[17:33] <Idlehead> KrisKo: you can change them with the qt config tools
[17:33] <cbx333_> s
[17:33] <jazz> i had installed gnome do and docky - now  i just have gnome-do
[17:33] <crystalblue> like as soon as I log on seb, it shuts down my internet connection globally
[17:33] <crystalblue> even on my mac
[17:33] <Monotoko> there are simple ways to make your browser seem like its on windows ya know
[17:33] <bash39> Thanks IdleOne ubottu
[17:34] <sebsebseb> crystalblue: so that you can't go on webistes at all?
[17:34] <IdleOne> Welcome bash39
[17:34] <Monotoko> editing the firefox headers...google it
[17:34] <crystalblue> like if I am on my mac, and on my linux laptop, and I log on with my laptop, it kills my connection
[17:34] <crystalblue> not if I visit that site
[17:34] <Monotoko> its a decent addon
[17:34] <jazz> the preferences give a docky look but not all the options i had before.
[17:34] <mpegger> Hi .. in ubuntu there is any application that show active connections and bytes transfered like top for processes?
[17:34] <sebsebseb> crystalblue: that's odd
[17:34] <crystalblue> *nods*
[17:34] <clonejo> jazz: docky and gnome-do are different applications
[17:34] <KrisKo> Idlehead: do you mean qtconfig or qtconfig-qt4? There are fonts set to 8, but krusader is still using 10.
[17:35] <BenB> in the past, I have used the built-in VNC server in the Xorg server (enabled in xorg.conf: module "vnc", "usevnc" "on"). how do I do that in ubuntu 9.10, which doesn't have an xorg.conf
[17:35] <clocker> mpegger, you might check out lsof and options therein
[17:35] <priya> i Right click on desktop go to Create Launcher  browse to were my executable program is Type=Application in Terminal
[17:35] <jazz> i thought so but i cannot find where to get docky?
[17:35] <sebsebseb> clocker: here's an idea
[17:35] <xangua> jazz: launch do> preferences> plugins
[17:35] <sebsebseb> crystalblue: here's an idea little test, still got the Ubuntu Live CD?
[17:35] <Idlehead> KrisKo: it depends on what version of qt is used by krusader. sometimes it works and sometimes. well. let's just say it doesn't.
[17:35] <crystalblue> yea of course
[17:36] <jazz> ok...
[17:36] <grkblood> can you cat vob files together without causing issues with remuxing down the road?
[17:36] <sebsebseb> crystalblue: ok so boot up the LIve CD, and go on photobucket and find out, if  you get the problem or not with that as well
[17:36] <erUSUL> mpegger: iftop
[17:36] <crystalblue> thats a really good idea
[17:36] <crystalblue> ok, will do
[17:36] <Idlehead> KrisKo: that is why it is better to use gtk on gnome and qt on kde and don't mix stuff up
[17:36] <sebsebseb> crystalblue: if not,  maybe something has gone bad with your actsaul install,  which might of happended, but not that likely
[17:36] <crystalblue> brb, ill let you know
[17:36] <priya> i Right click on desktop go to Create Launcher  browse to were my executable program is Type=Application in Terminal
[17:36] <jazz> nothing in there for docky in all plugins
[17:37] <Idlehead> is there a way to install the moblin v2 interface on ubuntu 9.04?
[17:37] <sebsebseb> crystalblue: ok
[17:37] <Monotoko> crystalblue, if thats the case use the modify headers firefox addon
[17:37] <Idlehead> can't seem to find a decent hit in google
[17:37] <xangua> priya: when you say 'executable' are you talking of a windows app¿¿ :S
[17:37] <sebsebseb> Monotoko: well sure ways round it probably, but it shoudn't happen in the first place
[17:38] <crystalblue> im not sure if I can do this because I dont have the restricted drivers on my wireless card on the live cd.
[17:38] <crystalblue> just remember.
[17:38] <sebsebseb> crystalblue: oh wireless
[17:38] <Monotoko> thats true sebsebseb...but some people just dont like linux -.-
[17:38] <sebsebseb> crystalblue: you can set up wireless on the Live CD
[17:38] <priya> no its rq-echo-client.x86  linux file
[17:38] <xangua> Idlehead: you can download ubuntu moblin, but i think is in alpha or something, there is also a 'mobli-desktop' package but i realy don't know if it is related
[17:38] <sebsebseb> Monotoko: yes  pretty sure I read that Photobucket don't support it properly anymore
[17:38] <Guest65822> h
[17:39] <Alexandre> i'm going to install ubuntu 9.10 and windows 7 on a notebook
[17:39] <Alexandre> wich should i install first?
[17:39] <paissad> do you know a too like pastebinit, but for images ?
[17:39] <crystalblue> brb
[17:39] <Idlehead> xangua: i tried the ubuntu moblin remix thing, but it has really long response times and is not really well for a real life workstation
[17:39] <hhlp> Guest47660, first windows after ubuntu
[17:39] <Idlehead> or does anyone know of a similar interface like moblin?
[17:39] <Monotoko> Alexandre....Windows 7
[17:40] <Monotoko> then ubuntu
[17:40] <xangua> Idlehead: ubuntu network remix¿¿ it is called that way¿¿
[17:40] <sebsebseb> Guest47660: Windows 7, then Ubuntu, yes
[17:40] <xangua> netbook remix**
[17:40] <franc> !urdu
[17:40] <Idlehead> xangua: yes
[17:41] <ravi> how to run windows 7 from virtual manager ??
[17:41] <Guest47660> sebsebseb, hhlp, thanks
[17:41] <sebsebseb> Guest47660: np
[17:41] <priya> xangua,  no its rq-echo-client.x86  linux file
[17:41] <hhlp> Guest47660, :)
[17:43] <Idlehead> ah, nevermind. just found a sweet how to in the german wiki.ubuntuusers.de
[17:43] <Idlehead> thanks anyway :)
[17:43] <dan__479> hi can someone help me with my wifi
[17:43] <priya>  no its rq-echo-client.x86  linux file
[17:43] <sebsebseb> !wireless | dan__479
[17:43] <joh6nn> sebsebseb: found a decent suggestion on that wifi page, rebooting to try it out.  wish me luck
[17:43] <sebsebseb> joh6nn: gl
[17:43] <dan__479> !wireless | dan__479
[17:44] <ulf_> I have a Gigabyte motherbord with Intel 4500 graphic onbord. Works fine i i connect to VGA but i would like to use HDMI an i cant get it to work. Any idea?
[17:44] <jazz> i tried the do>preferences>plug ins i dont have anything for docky
[17:44] <xangua> jazz: you can set the 'docky' theme in 'apprearence' tab
[17:45] <sebsebseb> !pm > dan__479
[17:45] <dan__479> sebsebse i have sent you a message
[17:45] <jazz> yes that what i was talking about i have a few options there, the docky i had let me put it on the side of the screen  etc...
[17:45] <zomfgcrazy> fae: hello
[17:46] <dan__479> sebsebseb i have sent you a message
[17:46] <xangua> jazz: that's docky 2, gnome do and docky separated
[17:46] <sebsebseb> dan__479: yeah and I got the bot to send you one, seen it?
[17:46] <dan__479> oh right yeah cheers
[17:47] <d0c> ribot, i did what you suggested but my menu.list is empty
[17:47] <d0c> is that normal?
[17:47] <julio> how can i run mozilla 3.6? i've added mozilla daily repos and "apt-get install firefox-3.6 firefox-3.6-gnome-support" but still launches 3.5.7....
[17:47] <dan__479> sorry about that
[17:47] <jazz> im new to irc and xchat....id like to check out the room you suggested? how do i ? ok where is docky 2? in synaptic?
[17:47] <lmfromdesktop> how do i assign a specific application to one of two available sound  cards with pulseaudio
[17:47] <ribot> d0c: you edited that file?
[17:47] <xangua> julio: for using stable fx 3.6 try ubuntuzilla
[17:47] <xangua> !ubuntuzilla | julio
[17:47] <d0c> nothing to edit
[17:47] <xangua> mmm
[17:47] <d0c> it looked empty
[17:47] <sebsebseb> dan__479: reading the wireless link yet?
[17:48] <dan__479> yeah i have already tried that though
[17:48] <dan__479> i am really confused
[17:48] <julio> stable? i assumed it was stable as i read that has been oficialy released
[17:48] <ribot> d0c did you write sudo at the begining?
[17:48] <julio> what is ubuntuzilla?
[17:48] <d0c> i did
[17:48] <jazz> brb going to look for it there ...i appreciate the help xangua
[17:48] <dan__479> is it ok to pm??
[17:48] <sebsebseb> dan__479: ok well  wait for someone else, and ask again,  I don't  try and help with wireless useally,  except that bot link of course, since it's not really my area
[17:49] <dsuch> julio: a nice tool for installing, for instance, SeaMonkey
[17:49] <xangua> julio: as the word says it: mozzilla daily repo are daily builds
[17:49] <dan__479> oh right thanks though
[17:49] <d0c> sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[17:49] <d0c> just comes up blank
[17:49] <Ferriss> Im trying to repeat something shown in http://swiss.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1284194 -- A failed upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 rendered my install unbootable. I get a bunch of 'you dont have the rights to do that, yo!' messages
[17:49] <Ferriss> is there a way to obtain those rights? i sudoded, i chrooted, i tried to complete the apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:49] <zvacet> d0c:  witch version do  you run
[17:50] <sebsebseb> dan__479: as for if it's ok to pm,  some want to be asked first,  others such as myself, might find it a bit annoying, to be pm'd something that could have been said no problem in the channel
[17:50] <julio> xangua, isn't the same as adding the repo and installing the packages? i don't know ubuzilla :o
[17:50] <dan__479> yeah
[17:50] <dan__479> sorry about that
[17:51] <kellopes> hello people... this is my last cry for help.. i am trying to start using linux (ubuntu).. but it is giving me more headaches than pleasure.. so.. can somebody here help me??
[17:51] <d0c> of Ubuntu?
[17:51] <d0c> 9.10
[17:51] <sebsebseb> !details | kellopes
[17:51] <steffan> kellopes: please ask your question
[17:51] <dan__479> kellopes what is the problem i may be able to help pm me
[17:51] <Ferriss> sebsebseb: , are you the one who helped me last night? ;o
[17:51] <navin> hey I have a question
[17:51] <zvacet> !grub2 | d0c
[17:51] <sebsebseb> Ferriss: don't know
[17:51] <kellopes> ok.. i am having problems with my wireless card
[17:51] <sebsebseb> !pm |  dan__479  kellopes
[17:51] <kellopes> it doesnt recognize..
[17:51] <kellopes> i have a AR5001
[17:52] <Halitech> kellopes, internal card? laptop? USB?
[17:52] <dan__479> what is it the kernel
[17:52] <kellopes> internal
[17:52] <DJones> julio: If you've added the mozilla dailies repo, you might find that firefox 3.6 is listed as Namoroka Browser under the Applications->Internet menu
[17:52] <kellopes> laptop
[17:52] <steffan> kellopes: have you read through the wireless documentation to try and solve the problem?
[17:52] <Ferriss> hmm. your name looks familiar. Anyway... does anyone know how to get the permissions to write on an install on a disk from a livecd?
[17:52] <sebsebseb> Ferriss: what you want help with anyway?
[17:52] <navin> How can I do a video chat in Ubuntu 9.10?
[17:52] <kellopes> yes..
[17:52] <Ferriss> sudo doesnt seem to do it
[17:52] <jazz> thanks guys.
[17:52] <zvacet> !kernel | dan__479
[17:52] <kellopes> the last feww day.. the only thing i have been doing is reading discutions.. and docs..
[17:52] <julio> xangua, nope it is not there
[17:53] <sebsebseb> !permissions |  Ferriss
[17:53] <Halitech> kellopes, if you open a terminal and run lspci does it see it there?
[17:53] <Ferriss> sebsebseb: the 9.04 to 9.10 upgrade failure. It looks like some have solved it anyway. Ill try to fix it for a while before i reinstall
[17:53] <Ferriss> <3
[17:53] <kellopes> i gotta go for lunch..
[17:53] <kellopes> i will be back later.. so i will ask for help again..
[17:53] <sebsebseb> Ferriss: oh right the 9.04 to 9.10 failure, I guess it was me then
[17:53] <kellopes> thanks..
[17:53] <navin> Hey can anyone help me?
[17:53] <Halitech> !help | navin
[17:54] <sebsebseb> Ferriss: you just want data off it now, so  this is ok really, but  useauly best to be careful with this,  gksudo nautilus
[17:54] <d0c> ahh... i have to edit /etc/default/grub
[17:54] <xguru> navin:  You can video chat with empathy, or skype
[17:54] <d0c> thanks zvacet
[17:54] <sebsebseb> Ferriss: then you become sudo/root for the file manager, and can do pretty much  whatever you want
[17:54] <navin> I am unable to do that with empathy
[17:54] <zvacet> d0c:  np
[17:54] <xguru> navin: what version of ubuntu and empathy
[17:54] <Halitech> navin, do you have a working webcam?
[17:54] <navin> xguru: Ubuntu 9.10
[17:55] <navin> yes.
[17:55] <fae> Hey, everyone. I recently installed ubuntu on a laptop, and it was working fine, but now it is freezing and then turning off randomly. Anyone know why that might be?
[17:55] <sebsebseb> Ferriss: just get the data and re install,  it's not  really worth trying to fix it this time
[17:55] <Slart> fae: have you run the memtester?
[17:55] <xguru> navin: so  you have got images through your webcam while using 9.10?
[17:55] <_march_> hi
[17:55] <navin> I am using my yahoo id to chat on empathy and the other person has connected his cam but I am unable to see his cam.
[17:56] <ravi> how to run windows 7 from virtual manager ??
[17:56] <Ferriss> did i just whois myself? strange webclient, freenode. Is it too difficult, really? it looks like some people have fixed it ;\
[17:56] <_march_> i have a problem: the machine has frozen while doing an upgrade and now many packages are left in the iU and iF state. how can i fix this up?
[17:56] <Ferriss> in any case, i have nothing to do all day and would like to learn more about linux and its commands. haha. so ill waste my time a bit. Thank you for the advice, sir
[17:56] <fae> No, but I will. I haven't had a chance to do anything with it yet.
[17:57] <navin> xguru what should i do now?
[17:57] <Slart> ravi: usually you create a vm, then mount the install cd in the virtual CD and start the machine.. the install goes through as on a normal machine
[17:57] <sebsebseb> Ferriss: well 9.10 is really one that is best as a clean install in the first place, hence why I don't recommend spending time trying to fix your messed up upgrade
[17:57] <zealiod> has any one written any expressions for urlsnarf
[17:57] <xguru> navin: are you getting a black screen from his feed....or just never accepts?
[17:57] <zvacet> _march_:  sudo apt-get -f install or sudo dpkg --configure -a
[17:57] <Ferriss> bah.
[17:57] <navin> I am not even getting any option to view the cam
[17:57] <_march_> zvacet: it does not work because the unpacked files are corrupt
[17:58] <_march_> zvacet: so i had to instruct to fully reunpack, reinstall, and reconfigure every package that got hurt
[17:58] <custodio> hola??
[17:58] <Host12345_> custodio: #Ubuntu-es
[17:58] <xguru> navin: Are you the only person they are having trouble video chatting with?
[17:58] <navin> yes
[17:58] <sebsebseb> Ferriss: most of them are fine to just upgrade to from the previous version,   but 9.10 has at least two reasons why it's better to clean install really
[17:58] <I^llGetOverIt> how to uninstall manually installed applicatons that does not appear in synaptic?
[17:58] <navin> coz I am on ubuntu
[17:59] <navin> and they are on windows
[17:59] <xguru> navin: have you requested to view their camera?
[17:59] <zvacet> _march_ : I don´t know sorry maybe someone else will b e more helpful to you
[17:59] <navin> yes
[17:59] <jazz> is there a ppa for docky 2?
[17:59] <xguru> navin: one second
[17:59] <_march_> yes i need someone with a clue!
[17:59] <ravi> Slart: but when we try to install windowa 7 using virtual machine manager up to vista its listed but not windows 7
[18:00] <dan__479> ok i have a wifi prolem can someone pm me to help
[18:00] <navin> okay
[18:00] <scunizi> I^llGetOverIt: if they were .deb files originally they will show in synaptic.. if not then it may be tough to do depending on the program and if it contained an uninstaller..
[18:00] <_march_> i cannot even google or anything because firefox also got corrupted
[18:01] <Slart> ravi: I'm not sure if that's just a label or if it changes something about the actual machine.. try setting it to Microsoft Windows Vista
[18:01] <_march_> how can i instruct apt to reunpack a package?
[18:01] <ravi> Slart: k let me try
[18:02] <netbook-liveusb> Hi, I'm trying to create a liveusb to run fedora 12 on my netbook but I'm getting an error using the liveusb tool http://pastebin.com/m7da20f79   Any suggestions?
[18:02] <zvacet> _march_ : you can try to reinstall packages in synaptic
[18:02] <ravi> Slart: one more question
[18:02] <Slart> ravi: sure
[18:02] <I^llGetOverIt> scunizi, it is not .deb i installed with sudo python setup.py install but the application does not work, so I find it in dep package but can not install it because uf old installation there is a conflict
[18:02] <Purpley> Hey guys I messed up my permissions for my sources.list file how do i change the permissions to allow ubuntu to update it and perodically check for updates without me having to type in a terminal sudo update-manager?
[18:03] <ibuclaw> netbook-liveusb, try unetbootin.
[18:03] <dan__479> HI I HAVE A WIFI PROBLEM I HAVE LOOKED AT THE DISCUSSION BOARDS, AND FOLLOWED THE GUIDELINES BUT IT STILL DOES NOT WORK I AM RUNNING UBUNTU 9.10 PLEEASSSE
[18:03] <xguru> navin: http://www.howzzit.com/blog/how-to-enable-audio-video-chat-on-empathy/
[18:03] <ravi> slart: I have installed ubuntu and installed windows 7 also as dual os
[18:03] <xguru> navin: make sure you have all the plugins and etc installed
[18:03] <scunizi> I^llGetOverIt: just start deleting files that belong to it then...
[18:03] <sebsebseb> !caps | dan__479
[18:03] <ardchoille> Purpley: what is the output of this command:  ls -lha /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:03] <Purpley> dan__479, USING CAPS DOSENT HELP
[18:03] <netbook-liveusb> ibuclaw, thanks!
[18:03] <navin> Okay
[18:04] <sebsebseb> !patience |  dan__479
[18:04] <ravi> but not sure how to configure the boot loader program to identify Windows n Linux
[18:04] <Purpley> ardchoille, -rw------- 1 root root 3.3K 2010-01-03 21:03 /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:04] <sebsebseb> dan__479: not really my area as I said, but I  know this, first of all it helps to know whic card you have
[18:04] <ardchoille> Purpley: sudo chmod a+r /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:04] <_march_> zvacet: it would tell me everything is corrupt, just as apt does
[18:04] <ibuclaw> netbook-liveusb, also, I wouldn't really consider that an error log. There should be a liveusb-creator.log file somewhere. Perhaps in /var/log.
[18:04] <dan__479> its a realtek 8187b
[18:04] <sebsebseb> dan__479: and even better what wireless chipset it  uses
[18:04] <netbook-liveusb> ibuclaw, its pasted at the bottom
[18:05] <dan__479> what is the chipset?
[18:05] <zvacet> see you later
[18:05] <dan__479> i think i know
[18:05] <_march_> please someone with a clue help me!
[18:05] <Purpley> ardchoille, Thanks a bunch
[18:05] <ardchoille> Purpley: you're welcome
[18:05] <xangua> julio: is not what where'¿
[18:05] <Purpley> Also can someone tell me what these "proposed updates" are?
[18:05] <dan__479> or should i say how do i find that out
[18:06] <wjt_> 有会讲中文的吧
[18:06] <ardchoille> Purpley: As for auto-updating, I don't know.. I always do: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:06] <jrib> Purpley: they're for people who want to test a proposed update (i.e. they may make your computer explode)
[18:06] <ardchoille> !chinese | wjt_
[18:06] <ibuclaw> netbook-liveusb, oh, ok. =)
[18:06] <netbook-liveusb> ibuclaw, :)
[18:06] <sebsebseb> dan__479: don't know,  patience and repeate your question, and someone else can probably help later
[18:06] <wjt_> OK
[18:06] <Kettlen> anyone here using a Compact Flash memory card as OS disk?
[18:06] <dan__479> ok
[18:06] <Purpley> So I shouldn't enable them if I want a stable computer?
[18:06] <jrib> Purpley: exactly
[18:06] <julio> xangua, namoroka under apps--internet. I find it weird since it only downloaded a few Kb's of data to install 3.6...
[18:07] <sebsebseb> dan__479: don't repeat every five minutes or so,  try like 15 minutes from now
[18:07] <xguru> navin: http://live.gnome.org/Empathy/FAQ#Does_Empathy_support_audio_and_video_chat.3F   states that it doesn't work on yahoo's protocol yet :/
[18:07] <Purpley> Oh are they basically betas?
[18:07] <ardchoille> Purpley: I wouldn't enable proposed if you want a stable system
[18:07] <rooisto47> hello everybody
[18:07] <jazz> how can i get my Ubuntu to automatically to translate different languages?
[18:07] <navin> ooh
[18:07] <ayse> czy ktos wie jaki jest program do faktór ?
[18:08] <ardchoille> Purpley: also, please sue gksudo when launching a gui app for admin purposes, sudo is for command line apps only
[18:08] <navin> then what should i do?
[18:08] <ardchoille> s/sue/use/
[18:08] <ibuclaw> netbook-liveusb, this is all that suggests: http://syslinux.zytor.com/archives/2007-March/008284.html
[18:08] <rooisto47> can I use live-helper from ubuntu to generate a debian live usb key ?
[18:08] <ohir> !pl | ayse
[18:08] <xangua> julio: as i've said you use ubuntuzilla for latest stabel release
[18:08] <ohir> !polish | ayse
[18:08] <Purpley> ardchoille, whats the difference between gksudo and sue gksudo?
[18:08] <xguru> navin:  supports.... msn/gtalk/xmpp/sip    I personally use skype and msn
[18:08] <ardchoille> !gksudo | Purpley
[18:08] <xangua> (12:07:52) jazz: how can i get my Ubuntu to automatically to translate different languages? ¿¿
[18:09] <netbook-liveusb> ibuclaw, thanks it would seem likely...unetbootin seems to be hanging on 64% at the moment
[18:09] <navin> ooh k
[18:09] <Purpley> Ok thanks
[18:09] <Diverdude> Is it possible to enhance the "arrow-up completion" in the terminal, so that instead of cycling through all previous commands when i press arrow up, i can enter e.g. ev and then press arrow up, and then all previous commands other than those starting with ev are filtered away. This means I could much easier find my way back through previous commands i have entered. Is that possible?
[18:09] <ibuclaw> netbook-liveusb, it will do that - as it is extracting the squashfs image
[18:09] <jazz> if i type in say german does the os translate the language live ?
[18:09] <navin> xguru do v have the option of video chat in skpye for other ids
[18:10] <czeslaw> to jest mój pierwszy linukx