[03:19] <foso> judt restart?
[03:19] <zcat[1]> foso: hmm.. weird
[03:19] <arc3angel> nothing in any log file indicates an issue
[03:19] <LiMaO> zcat[1]: altomatically was funny hehe
[03:19] <tntCry> ant-, what about doings scripted tasks :)
[03:20] <jtt> !question > Than_
[03:20] <LiMaO> zcat[1]: isn't english your native language?
[03:20] <ant-> tntCry, depends on the scripts
[03:20] <adelie> even 10 years ago, linux just worked
[03:20] <goodmami> foso: you could try "apt-get remove xserver-xgl" as well
[03:20] <ant-> tntCry, some can be very basic, while others very complex
[03:20] <donkeyofdarkness> It took 45 minutes to install all the soundblaster crap on windows. On ubuntu you just stick the card in and turn on the computer.
[03:20] <LiMaO> foso: and remember, to have a rotating cube you do not need an xgl server
[03:20] <zcat[1]> adelie: well, not really... a lot of stuff has only got real userfriendly in the last year or three
[03:20] <slaytanic> Anyone here using dual head with the ati opensource driver?
[03:21] <c0mp13371331337> slaytanic: Dual head with radeon driver here.
[03:21] <tntCry> ant-, like the compiz script installer which is complex for the noobs ?
[03:21] <arc3angel> everywhere i looked at work today it seems alot of people have this issue but nothing in the threads ever showed a solution just "resolved"
[03:21] <foso> LiMaO i dont know what i need, it crashes when i have more then two desktops
[03:21] <foso> goodmami its says it cant find that package
[03:21] <goodmami> hmm
[03:21] <zcat[1]> foso: perhaps it's not installed? :)
[03:21] <ant-> tntCry, i dunno, i installed compiz without touching a script
[03:21] <deniz__> LiMaO, all checked
[03:21] <slaytanic> c0mp13371331337: Whenever I try to use it anything but "clone" mode, it crashes X, any ideas?
[03:21] <donkeyofdarkness> ... I've resorted to eating ketchup
[03:22] <LiMaO> deniz__: have you clicked the 'update/refresh' button after checking all of them?
[03:22] <zcat[1]> ant-: I never installed compiz.. it was just there after I installed gutsy and enables the restricted drivers
[03:22] <arc3angel> i can paste bin my logs if someone wants to look them over
[03:22] <LiMaO> deniz__: if so, now just search for compizconfig-settings-manager
[03:22] <goodmami> foso: make sure your effects are off in System>Preferences>Appearance>Visual Effects
[03:22] <foso> zcat[1] sorry im a noob, i think xgl is installed since it said it was and its completly screwed up my graphics
[03:22] <ant-> zcat[1], sounds good
[03:22] <arc3angel> i am at a loss here - i know it has to be a configuration issue somewhere just where i am not sure
[03:23] <goodmami> and maybe restart X with ctrl-alt-bksp  (this will log you out, so save your work)
[03:23] <c0mp13371331337> slaytanic: Could be any number of things.  Can you paste bin your xorg.conf file?
[03:23] <LiMaO> !paste | slaytanic
[03:23] <ubotu> slaytanic: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:23] <tntCry> ant-, before 7.10 compiz had to be installed manually and do stimulate tasks on unpacking files ect.. into multiple files , do you mean this is a complex script ? if not can you clarify an example of how complex a script can be ..
[03:23] <slaytanic> c0mp13371331337: sure.
[03:23] <zcat[1]> tntCry: wasn't it already installed but not enables in feisty?
[03:24] <zcat[1]> *enabled
[03:24] <hartono> #adempiere
[03:24] <tntCry> zcat[1], no in feisty no compiz builtin
[03:25] <goodmami> so nobody knows anything about tablet pcs and wacom drivers?
[03:25] <arc3angel> any idea what cuases this --> [42949376.000000] sda: asking for cache data failed
[03:25] <alvaro4356> VERY COOL
[03:25] <alvaro4356> THIS CHAT
[03:25] <tntCry> guys look at this awesome wallpaper http://gnome-look.org/CONTENT/content-files/53892-Future%20Debian2.jpg
[03:25] <zcat[1]> compiz has come a LONG way in one year.. it used to be buggy as hell.. and so was beryl. Now it's rock solid. Heaps of effects, openGL games and video works without a hiccup.. it's like a dream!
[03:25] <deniz__> LiMaO, "Compiz Gnome Manager"
[03:26] <goodmami> zcat[1]: running glxgears crashes xgl for me
[03:26] <goodmami> not so stable....
[03:26] <corruptionoflulz> zcat[1]: compiz is still a fair bit away from rock solid
[03:26] <deniz__> LiMaO, is that it?
[03:26] <zcat[1]> goodmami: don't use Xgl.
[03:26] <ant-> tntCry, thats a pretty nice wallpaper, but i like mine more
[03:26] <tntCry> give me a link ant-
[03:26] <slaytanic> c0mp13371331337: http://pastebin.com/m532612dc
[03:26] <zcat[1]> compiz doesn't need Xgl
[03:26] <slaytanic> c0mp13371331337: I've highlighted the relevant line.
[03:26] <goodmami> zcat[1]: guess i missed something... i thought it did
[03:26] <arc3angel> that message is from my dmesg log
[03:27] <ant-> tntCry, http://img02.picoodle.com/img/img02/5/11/15/f_Screenshot4m_e85462c.png
[03:27] <goodmami> does compiz still use video hardware?  or does it use the main processor for all the effects?
[03:27] <zcat[1]> compiz here really is ROCK solid.. on three different cards. Compared to just a year ago it's amazing!
[03:27] <foso> goodmami why? they were working before
[03:27] <foso> to refresh: heres the instructions i followed: http://www.ubuntu1501.com/2007/11/compiz-fusion-with-xgl-in-gutsy.html
[03:27] <LiMaO> deniz__: please please please. read it carefully. open synaptic package manager (yes, i know you prefer the terminal, but try this one). after it's opened, click on the Search button. then type "compizconfig" without the quotes. the first entry is what you need. it's called compizconfig-settings-manager and its description is "compiz configuration settings manager"
[03:28] <LiMaO> deniz__: so no, it's not compiz gnome manager
[03:28] <corruptionoflulz> LiMaO: i think that's in the add/remove programs too, maybe it'd easier?
[03:28] <deniz__> LiMaO, i typed exactly that and nutn..
[03:28] <arc3angel> [42949376.000000] sda: asking for cache data failed
[03:28] <LiMaO> deniz__: then update to 7.10 =P
[03:28] <zcat[1]> LiMaO: ppl expect linux to be hard :( They'll go ahead and install Xgl and a dozen other unnecessary packages, then they'll come back and complain that it was hard and now it's unstable.. :(
[03:28] <arc3angel> ???  6.06 LTS 32bit Server
[03:28] <LiMaO> corruptionoflulz: he can't find it anyway. hehe i'm almost quitting =P
[03:29] <deniz__> LiMaO, i have dial-up
[03:29] <kb3llm> does Ubuntu work fine on tablet PC's yet? anyone have any light to shed on the idea?
[03:29] <ant-> LiMaO, are you looking for gtk-window-decorator?
[03:29] <mactimes> Hi there!
[03:29] <LiMaO> zcat[1]: yeah, i wonder why and WHO writes such unnecessary how-tos
[03:29] <LiMaO> ant-: no
[03:29] <jsoftw> I have put entries into /etc/hosts for www.foo.com, pinging it works fine, but using firefox just goes to the actual domain...
[03:29] <tntCry> ant-, hehe
[03:29] <jsoftw> Any ideas?
[03:29] <jsoftw> I have tried restart firefox...
[03:29] <mactimes> Could someone help me with gpg, please?
[03:29] <tntCry> ant-, do you like that darkness
[03:29] <ant-> tntCry, dark and simple, i like
[03:30] <arc3angel> any reason why this is in my dmesg log --> [42949376.000000] sda: asking for cache data failed
[03:30] <kb3llm> anyone?
[03:30] <LiMaO> arc3angel: dead disk?
[03:30] <zcat[1]> deniz__: All you need is ONE small package.. dialup will be quite sifficient, please just follow the instructions you were given?
[03:30] <arc3angel> any reason why this is in my dmesg log --> [42949376.000000] sda: asking for cache data failednope
[03:30] <Phantombun> Okay, I'm ready to install linux now
[03:30] <ant-> tntCry, makes my text easier to see - http://img31.picoodle.com/img/img31/5/11/15/f_screenshot5m_07676b3.png
[03:30] <LiMaO> arc3angel: have you tried running fsck on that drive?
[03:30] <arc3angel> wtheck
[03:30] <slaytanic> jsoftw: No proxies are enabled in FF, right?
[03:30] <mactimes> I had a key before reinstalling my Ubuntu, could someone help me recovering it?
[03:30] <Phantombun> -Where do I start?
[03:30] <goodmami> kb3llm: i'm running it on thinkpad x61t
[03:30] <arc3angel> can i run fsck from a putty session
[03:30] <deniz__> zcat[1], i swear im not being rebellious or wtv
[03:31] <LiMaO> mactimes: a key for what? your home door? you car? =P
[03:31] <deniz__> zcat[1], im doiung exactly as told
[03:31] <jsoftw> slaytanic: nope..
[03:31] <arc3angel> also it is a brand new install on brand new parts
[03:31] <mactimes> LiMaO: a gpg key
[03:31] <tntCry> ant-,
[03:31] <kb3llm> does ubuntu work with tablet PC's guys?!?!
[03:31] <tntCry> it is not easy to see
[03:31] <mactimes> LiMaO: Exported to keyserver.ubuntu.com
[03:31] <ant-> !tablet
[03:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tablet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:31] <goodmami> kb3llm: read what i said 15 lines up
[03:31] <zcat[1]> gtg anyhow.. good luck all
[03:31] <tntCry> too much traffic on 1 page ant-  :/ how do you focus ?> you wearing glasses?
[03:31] <LiMaO> mactimes: sorry, i don't know anything about it =/
[03:31] <thor> arc2angel: yes you can run fsck through putty, but you have to have root access
[03:32] <deniz__> LiMaO, ill google wat ur asking
[03:32] <ant-> tntCry, how can you say that sitting in a channel with 900+ poeple?
[03:32] <slaytanic> jsoftw: Oddness.
[03:32] <Phantombun> Okay, help please...
[03:32] <WorkingOnWise> goodmami: what are u using for handwritting input?
[03:32] <Phantombun> I don't want to use my entire disk for linux
[03:32] <LiMaO> ant-: this channel has exactly 1129 people connected at this moment
[03:32] <arc3angel> i am the admin that is an easy item - although being  a brand new install (2nd fresh install) on brand new parts i dont see it being an software issue per say
[03:32] <LiMaO> ant-: just for accuracy sakes ;)
[03:33] <Scunizi> tntCry, when talking to someone you have to use their nick in the line otherwise you messages will get lost in the noise..
[03:33] <Phantombun> How do I partition only 10-15 gigs?
[03:33] <goodmami> WorkingOnWise: I haven't got that far.... I'm using xournal for note taking
[03:33] <ant-> LiMaO, :P
[03:33] <Phantombun> Please, help!
[03:33] <mactimes> Could someone, please, help me recovering my gpg key?
[03:33] <goodmami> i only installed ubuntu yesterday
[03:33] <tntCry> ant-,  :/ mybad
[03:33] <Phantombun> I don't want to totally crap up my laptop and have to reformat
[03:33] <goodmami> WorkingOnWise: I'm not sure if it has good handwriting recog software yet....
[03:33] <ant-> tntCry, can i see your desktop?
[03:33] <tntCry> aaaah
[03:33] <thor> Phantombun: are you running windows xp or vista in theother partition?
[03:33] <DG19075> Phantobun, you can use GParted
[03:34] <tntCry> ant-, i must print screen
[03:34] <WorkingOnWise> goodmami: i looked into Ubuntu on a tablet...bought a laptop and am waiting for good hr app before I go to a tablet.
[03:34] <Phantombun> xp home sp2
[03:34] <tntCry> my desktop is cool ;)
[03:34] <ant-> tntCry, oh?
[03:34] <goodmami> WorkingOnWise: I'm surprised that setting up stylus input was easy (but not automatic), but pressure sensitivity is still evading me
[03:34] <Phantombun> I defragmented and backed up data like you guys told me to earlier
[03:34] <Phantombun> now i'm ready
[03:34] <ant-> tntCry, show-n-tell
[03:35] <goodmami> WorkingOnWise: and screen rotation when i switch to tablet mode ain't happening
[03:35] <DG19075> Phantombun, you cn have the Wionows partition resized.
[03:35] <Phantombun> I'm only giving linux 10-15 gigs
[03:35] <Phantombun> So, where do I start?
[03:36] <DG19075> Better to have each OS live in its own HDD..which is what I have here.
[03:36] <WorkingOnWise> goodmami: lol...yeah. the tablet pc is i think the last major hurdle for Linux....but it is developing.
[03:36] <tntCry> ant-, i dont have a site to upload :p
[03:36] <tntCry> ant-, im a private man
[03:36] <Phantombun> my friend is telling me that i'm gonna mess everything up installing this on my laptop
[03:36] <ant-> tntCry, picoodle.com
[03:36] <Phantombun> now i'm worried :S
[03:36] <ant-> tntCry, quick and easy
[03:36] <tntCry> ant-, btw tntcry try not to cry
[03:36] <corruptionoflulz> Phantombun: you COULD backup first...
[03:36] <abc> hi all - i have just installed OpenVPN - but it does not appear on my menu list - where do i find it and run ?
[03:37] <DG19075> hantombun, you'd have to re install Ubuntu and have it resize the partitions in the HDD
[03:37] <arc3angel> this thing seems to hang on running boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)
[03:37] <Phantombun> wait, what?
[03:37] <ant-> tntCry, they have medacine for that kinda stuff
[03:37] <tntCry> ant-, what stuff?
[03:37] <corruptionoflulz> Phantombun: the ubuntu installer will resize the partitions for you (defrag is recommended)
[03:37] <ant-> tntCry, trying not to cry
[03:38] <Phantombun> I just got done defragging
[03:38] <ant-> tntCry, (depression)
[03:38] <tntCry> ant-, damn? people take medcine so they dont cry
[03:38] <tntCry> you mean anti dpression? ant-
[03:38] <corruptionoflulz> Phantombun: do you have any important data that would be good to back up? just to make you feel safer..
[03:38] <Phantombun> Well, quite a bit actually
[03:38] <tntCry> ant-, who make these stuff lo
[03:38] <Phantombun> but, i'm not gonna fail on my first try, am I?
[03:38] <arc3angel> i am at a total loss here
[03:39] <arc3angel> cant figure this out for anything
[03:39] <ant-> tntCry, i dunno, i havent cried in a while
[03:39] <LiMaO> tntCry: medicine that prevents depression may be considered medicine not to cry
[03:39] <LiMaO> =P
[03:39] <corruptionoflulz> Phantombun: not likely, but i backed up before i did it, just for peace of mind.. never used the backup though
[03:39] <tntCry> means your depressed ant- ?
[03:39] <Phantombun> oh?
[03:39] <tntCry> LiMaO, who doesnt want to cry ?
[03:39] <LiMaO> tntCry: i don't. i prefer to smile =D
[03:39] <Phantombun> if things go wrong, i can still recover the hard drive contents, right?
[03:40] <ant-> i dont want to cry
[03:40] <LiMaO> ant-: are you ok? i can be your friend. lol
[03:40] <LiMaO> =D
[03:40] <ant-> how did this get turned on me?
[03:40] <corruptionoflulz> Phantombun: as long as you don't overwrite things.
[03:40] <Phantombun> it's asking me how I want to partition the disk
[03:41] <LiMaO> ant-: aren't you the one taking the anti-depressive medicine? =P
[03:41] <tntCry> LiMaO, then follow the ancient routines , no caffine no nicotine no alchohol no drugs ( have water during the time you will fast , and fast for 4 to 8 times a week ) , it cured 20,000 people who tried the rest didnt try thats why didnt cure :)
[03:41] <corruptionoflulz> Phantombun: easiest way is to just let it resize it for you
[03:41] <Phantombun> It has Use entire disk, use largest continuous free space, and manual
[03:41] <DG19075> and it's probably giving you  a percentage of the disk to use for Ubuntu ?
[03:41] <Phantombun> no
[03:42] <corruptionoflulz> there isn't a resize thing with a slider up top?
[03:42] <LiMaO> tntCry: i didn't understand the 'fast for 4 to 8 times a week'.. isn't fast an adjective?
[03:42] <corruptionoflulz> take screen shot.
[03:42] <deniz__> is there such a thing as a defragger for ubuntu or does ubuntu write files in a manner in which things will never fragment themselves?
[03:42] <c0Ld> PhantomBun: Manual
[03:42] <corruptionoflulz> deniz__:  the latter i believe.
[03:42] <tntCry> fast to not eat LiMaO
[03:42] <LiMaO> deniz__: linux doesn't need defragmentation
[03:42] <Phantombun> >_<
[03:42] <ant-> !defrag
[03:42] <ubotu> defragmentation is not needed for Ext3 and ReiserFS filesystems. They are much more efficient in their allocation of storage units.
[03:42] <Phantombun> Screenshot or Manual?
[03:42] <tntCry> i just found a creat feature request in compiz check this out http://forum.compiz-fusion.org/showthread.php?t=5340
[03:42] <tntCry> great >
[03:43] <LiMaO> tntCry: oh man. i can't stand it. eating is good. =D
[03:43] <corruptionoflulz> Phantombun: take a screen shot, and put it on www.imageshack.us
[03:43] <emory> howdy all
[03:43] <Phantombun> dangit i got two people ordering me around
[03:43] <corruptionoflulz> Phantombun: there should be a slider thingy for resizing...
[03:43] <tntCry> if that feature is available compiz might not be free lo
[03:43] <deniz__> k, thx for answer :)
[03:43] <deniz__> LiMaO, im stuck with this supposedly easy thing...
[03:43] <c0Ld> corruptionoflulz: I think he has to select manual to get that ;p
[03:43] <tntCry> LiMaO, then you must know that most scientists say its not :)
[03:44] <emory> So i'm running Ubuntu 7.04 with a Radeon 9600 and just found out that the ATI proprietary driver breaks MythTV, so I switched to the OS driver but TV Out now totally doesn't work... I know this is a bit of a n00b question, but maybe someone could point me at a good walkthrough for getting this setup properly?
[03:44] <Phantombun> i did manual
[03:44] <corruptionoflulz> c0Ld: the resize slider should be there up at the top, and then the other options he mentioned, manual is a bit different
[03:44] <LiMaO> deniz__: guess you have to upgrade to 7.10 to have compizconfig-settings-manager
[03:44] <artii> hello
[03:44] <LiMaO> tntCry: eating is fine, eating too much is not
[03:44] <corruptionoflulz> c0Ld: with manual you have to do the resizing and the swap yourself
[03:44] <tntCry> your better then scientists LiMaO  :) or youmean eating is good for you and if some1 poses you a religion you will not like it because it doesnt satisfy you ? i can grasp on the edges of your lightened source.
[03:45] <ant-> LiMaO, i'm running 7.10 and there is no compizconfig-settings-manager
[03:45] <tntCry> ant-, you must download it !ccsm
[03:45] <deniz__> there is on this link
[03:45] <tntCry> !ccsm
[03:45] <ubotu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[03:45] <LiMaO> ant-: where there is no compizconfig-settings-manager? it's on synaptic
[03:45] <Phantombun> it's showing me
[03:45] <Phantombun> bleh
[03:45] <Phantombun> i give up
[03:45] <deniz__> compizconfig thing http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/x11/compizconfig-settings-manager
[03:46] <LiMaO> tntCry: actually eating is good as in it gives me satisfaction. i don't mean the clown diet though =P
[03:46] <deniz__> but only for gutsy
[03:46] <emory> So i'm running Ubuntu 7.04 with a Radeon 9600 and just found out that the ATI proprietary driver breaks MythTV, so I switched to the OS driver but TV Out now totally doesn't work... I know this is a bit of a n00b question, but maybe someone could point me at a good walkthrough for getting this setup properly?
[03:46] <tntCry> guys read this amazing post requesting a feature in compiz http://forum.compiz-fusion.org/showthread.php?t=5340
[03:46] <corruptionoflulz> Am i the only one who thinks it's stupid how your pidgin stuff is under a folder named "purple"?
[03:47] <tntCry> LiMaO, maybe if we we're in camp or somethin me and you , we can have a bet and trust me int he end of the bet if you win you will say thanks for revealing this truth while i didnt know its true
[03:47] <burner__> corruptionoflulz, i think it's cool that pidgin uses purple so you can use other frontends like finch and possibly an qt one
[03:48] <corruptionoflulz> burner: *whoosh* over my head.
[03:48] <deniz__> how come things that work on edgy work on feisty but other apps dont work on other versiojns? im talkin bout opera web browser..
[03:48] <LiMaO> tntCry: tell me, what's the thruth?
[03:48] <bernier> Hi, is it possible to compile fglrx on hardy even if hardy is not in the --buildpkg option?
[03:48] <deniz__> anyway, i give up for today
[03:49] <corruptionoflulz> deniz__: wait, what about opera? works fine for me on 7.10
[03:49] <tntCry> LiMaO, let go to !offtopic
[03:49] <deniz__> corruptionoflulz, no i was just saying that there is an opera that works on both edgy and feisty, so y dont gutsy things work in feisty?
[03:50] <corruptionoflulz> deniz__: ah, dunno then.
[03:50] <deniz__> o ya how do i use wine
[03:50] <deniz__> i have it and ive never touched a video game for like over 6 months
[03:50] <deniz__> and that makes me wanna cry
[03:50] <deniz__> lol
[03:51] <ant-> deniz__, type 'wine program_name'
[03:51] <lousygarua> hello, do anyone has this funny issue where the Right Alt is not really an Alt?
[03:51] <thor> deniz__: you need the full path for most programs
[03:51] <ant-> deniz__, but first 'wine program_install'
[03:52] <deniz__> were do i do this?
[03:52] <CubeXombi> is someone in here familiar with ir Remotes? I'm trying to use one with my laptop and xmms, though I'm having difficulty trying to determine the ir code length, "cat /dev/ttyS1" while pressing buttons only shows dummy characters, so i can't determine it that way
[03:52] <CubeXombi> and my google-fu is weak
[03:52] <ant-> deniz__, terminal
[03:53] <deniz__> ant-, do i type that EXACTLY or i replace program with that i want to run?
[03:53] <DG19075> deniz_, you can also run wine by typing 'winefile' in a terminal
[03:53] <crazy6> how do I see what events acpid is catching? the brightness buttons on my laptop aren't working...
[03:53] <ant-> deniz__, the name of the program of course
[03:54] <deniz__> but how will it guess?
[03:54] <deniz__> like i have
[03:54] <ant-> deniz__, basically to use wine you just type 'wine' in front of the command
[03:54] <deniz__> halo.iso on my hdd
[03:54] <DG19075> you can the drag/drop Windows ssetup files to the virtuasl C drive and set em up there
[03:54] <deniz__> ant-, so how would i install halo?
[03:54] <Archon> does anyone use MySQL? my question is whether I need the "debian-sys-maint@localhost" user account
[03:54] <ant-> deniz__, wine name-of-installer
[03:55] <DG19075> terminal command then would be wine halo
[03:55] <jimbo> you meed to mount the iso ifrst if you havn't
[03:55] <ant-> deniz__, you need to write the .iso to a disk of course
[03:55] <deniz__> ant-, sry for being stupid but how do i no the name of the installer?
[03:55] <Clearze1> Archon: You first should set a root password and then make a user account. phpmyadmin is a good tool.
[03:55] <racarter> how do i change my computer name in ubuntu?
[03:55] <jimbo> or mount it via t loopback
[03:55] <jimbo> -t
[03:56] <ant-> deniz__, better to write it to disk if you have one
[03:56] <Archon> Clearze1: well, i've got it working, but i've personally never used that account
[03:56] <Archon> Clearze1: but i don't want to delete it if i don't need it
[03:56] <deniz__> ant-, cant i just mount it?
[03:56] <deniz__> ant-, i have no cd's...
[03:56] <Clearze1> Archon: you log into mysql with that user. You don't want to login as root.
[03:57] <Clearze1> Archon: if that is what you mean
[03:57] <ant-> deniz__, i think you saw what jimbo wrote
[03:57] <Archon> Clearze1: ehh, i've been using root >.>
[03:57] <Archon> but
[03:57] <Archon> only for DDL
[03:57] <thor> racarter: edit the file /etc/hosts
[03:57] <Archon> Clearze1: eventually, i wont use root when the database(s) that i create for my own purposes are done and secure
[03:57] <racarter> thanks thor
[03:58] <Clearze1> Archon: phpmyadmin is a good webbased tool that will help you a lot with mysql. It's helped me a lot. Anyway, I would keep the user.
[03:58] <thor> racarter: you can also use the command hostname
[03:58] <pjeide> Archon: phpMyAdmin is very good
[03:58] <deniz__> ant-, so i mount then i do "wine halo"?
[03:58] <pjeide> easy to set up
[03:58] <crazy6> gah, why doesnt this thing work??
[03:58] <ant-> deniz__, the name of the file used to install halo
[03:59] <ant-> deniz__, it may be halo, but i dunno
[04:00] <corruptionoflulz> a lot of times, it'll show in your wine menu too
[04:00] <DG19075> is using Wine to run Adobe audition 1.5
[04:01] <deniz__> ant-, i think it would be like halo combat evolved
[04:01] <deniz__> ant-, omg im so stupid
[04:01] <deniz__> ant-, is there a specific program i need to mount halo.iso?
[04:02] <ant-> deniz__, you say that like its a good thing
[04:02] <deniz__> ant-, its not
[04:02] <usser> deniz__, no u can just use mount command
[04:02] <DG19075> the only thing i can't get is that the transport keys don't fill the squares as they do in Windows
[04:02] <ant-> deniz__, mount
[04:02] <deniz__> my halo.iso is on the desktop
[04:02] <deniz__> so wat would be the exact command?
[04:02] <ant-> heh
[04:02] <usser> deniz__, something like that mount ~/Desktop/myiso.iso /mnt -t iso9660 -o loop=/dev/loop0
[04:03] <DG19075> so it's hard to see the key functions
[04:03] <Clearze1> usser:There isn't a  equal sign
[04:03] <usser> deniz__, put sudo in front and substitute myiso.iso with the actual name
[04:03] <ubuntu_> a
[04:03] <deniz__> usser, k, thx
[04:04] <usser> Clearze1, ?
[04:04] <DG19075> anyone else run into this problem?
[04:04] <usser> Clearze1, well i suppose -o loop would work to
[04:05] <QuasarRichter> LINUX OR WINDOWS!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!??!
[04:06] <donkeyofdarkness> linux ftw
[04:06] <deniz__> usser, i did that but how do i no if its successful, on computer it doesnt show a halo disc
[04:06] <cps1966> alway LINUX
[04:06] <smultron> if you play games, Windows. otherwise, Linux
[04:06] <donkeyofdarkness> yep
[04:06] <donkeyofdarkness> osx is good for itunes and stuff
[04:07] <deniz__> linux is the best, open source is best, etc, in my opinion
[04:07] <usser> deniz__, now u can go to places->computer->filesystem->/mnt
[04:07] <usser> deniz__, cd is there
[04:07] <donkeyofdarkness> !botsnack
[04:07] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[04:08] <deniz__> usser, im in computer filesystems mnt and i c halo stuff
[04:08] <deniz__> usser, so that means sucess right?
[04:09] <MagickalHack> Anyone here know about multi-card readers?
[04:09] <usser> deniz__, yes if u see it then its mounted
[04:09] <poogle> anyone able to get sound working on a realtek ide 268 card?
[04:09] <deniz__> usser, so now wat do i do in terminal to get wine to run it?
[04:09] <usser> deniz__, wine setup.exe i guess
[04:09] <usser> deniz__, or wine install.exe
[04:10] <Ashfire908> MagickalHack, yes in windows they never seem to have the right drive letter and name lol.
[04:10] <PirateHead> I'm having a problem with OOo's export to PDF function. It's not exporting my quotes (") or dashes (-).
[04:10] <Ashfire908> MagickalHack, just ask.
[04:10] <PirateHead> If I print to PostScript and use ps2pdf to convert it to PDF, the quotes and dashes work just fine.
[04:10] <owen1_> i was disconnected, someone helped me with my router/nginx issue....
[04:10] <PirateHead> I only have a problem trying to export directly from OOo.
[04:10] <Wrec> anyone know what "g++.real: argument to '-L' missing" means?
[04:10] <Wrec> I'm compiling version 1.42 of zsnes
[04:11] <deniz__> usser, how can i determine for myself wat the exact name would be?
[04:11] <MagickalHack> I need to find someone who can help me get mine to work. I'm running an acer 5100 with gutsy.
[04:11] <gavin__> hiya all
[04:11] <Wrec> anyone know what "g++.real: argument to '-L' missing" means?
[04:11] <owen1_> how to set my router to expose my desktop with nginx server?
[04:11] <thor> Wrec: I think it means the library referenced in the previous line is missing (-L<library>
[04:12] <deniz__> usser, i see setup.exe
[04:12] <Ashfire908> MagickalHack, what doesn't work?
[04:12] <deniz__> usser, so wine setup.exe?
[04:12] <usser> deniz__, yep
[04:12] <MagickalHack> The card reader, it just doesn't see it.
[04:12] <deniz__> it says could not load and module is not found
[04:12] <MagickalHack> I've tried booting with a card in and still nothing.
[04:13] <gavin__> is there a 3gp to avi converter in 7.04 repo
[04:13] <abacka> any one can give me link to  u7fixit.tar for ubuntu 7.04
[04:13] <Ashfire908> MagickalHack, does windows see it?
[04:13] <donkeyofdarkness> gavin__, maybe mencoder?
[04:13] <MagickalHack> @Ash: Yeah it did.
[04:13] <Wrec> thor: how do I fix that?
[04:14] <gavin__> Thanks i`ll have a quick look
[04:14] <Ashfire908> MagickalHack, is it like intergrated?
[04:14] <donkeyofdarkness> mencoder converts just about everything
[04:14] <MagickalHack> Yeah.
[04:14] <slaytanic> What can I use to capture images from my webcam?
[04:14] <thor> Wrec: you have to first look at the previous line and figure out what is missing, then find the package that offers that library. Google can usually lead you to the right package
[04:14] <Ashfire908> MagickalHack, what is the model (of the reader)
[04:15] <Wrec> "pensive-optimizations -s -march=pentiumpro  -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/lib  -lz -L/usr/lib -lSDL  -lpng -lm -L
[04:15] <Wrec> g++.real: argument to '-L' missing
[04:15] <Wrec> "
[04:15] <uKKeMan> slaytanic: camorama
[04:15] <ant-> deniz__, read the installation suggestion: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=2720
[04:15] <MagickalHack> Ash: Sec, gonna have to look it up [my memory sucks.
[04:15] <Wrec> thor: can you tell from that?
[04:15] <deniz__> ant-, k
[04:15] <gavin__> cheers
[04:15] <thor> Wrec: lookslike you are missing a directory...check those three and see if they exist
[04:15] <Wrec> thor: google isn't helping tonight :P
[04:15] <Wrec> thor: which directories?
[04:15] <ant-> usser, i got your back...
[04:16] <travis> anyone know how to get the macosx taskbar in gnome 7.10?
[04:16] <donkeyofdarkness> yes
[04:16] <donkeyofdarkness> install awn
[04:16] <Wrec> thor: /usr/local/lib /usr/lib ?
[04:17] <thor> Wrec: looks like they are both there...I am running 7.10 and they are there by default
[04:17] <travis> can you apt-get awn?
[04:17] <Wrec> thor: I am as well
[04:17] <donkeyofdarkness> no
[04:17] <thor> but that last -L...with nothing after it....might be the problem
[04:17] <Ashfire908> do you happen to see anything that looks like the reader in /dev/disk/by-id/?
[04:17] <donkeyofdarkness> i duuno
[04:17] <slaytanic> uKKeMan: Looks good, thanks.
[04:17] <uKKeMan> slaytanic, no problem
[04:17] <Wrec> thor: yeah, it's very odd
[04:17] <thor> Wrec: I would edit the make file and get rid of that last -L
[04:18] <thor> Wrec: worth a shot
[04:18] <Wrec> thor: k, be right back
[04:18] <ant-> thor, i bet the last directory got cut off in the copy/paste
[04:19] <DG19075> abacka: go here:http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/21/usb-ubuntu-704-persistent-install-for-linux-users/
[04:19] <thor> ant-: possibility...I can only go on what he sends <smile>
[04:20] <thor> ant-: but the error fits
[04:20] <DG19075> this will give you the u7fixit.tar
[04:21] <Wrec> thor: it just sort of stopped O.O
[04:21] <Wrec> thor: usr/lib -lSDL  -lpng -lm
[04:21] <Wrec> rm -f version.o
[04:21] <Wrec> thor: and that's all it does
[04:21] <WorkingOnWise> someting had consumed all the free space on my puter. how can I find out what has done it and here the space is taken what file(s) are using it? The last time I had this problem it was a problem with beagle but that was back with Ubuntu 7.04 herd 3 if I remember. I removed beagle abd the problem was fixed.  Now you need to figure out what needs to go after that -L
[04:21] <uKKeMan> its 5.20 in the morning and i need to bring the fucking garbage out
[04:22] <Wrec> thor: how do I do that?
[04:22] <stdin> !language | uKKeMan
[04:22] <ubotu> uKKeMan: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[04:22] <magic_ninja> !apparmor
[04:22] <thor> WorkingOnWise: try baobab
[04:22] <ubotu> For information about the AppArmor security framework employed in Ubuntu (since Gutsy Gibbon), see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppArmor
[04:22] <thor> Wrec: a lot of research...I have never mastered compiling programs...just give it my best shot
[04:22] <thor> Wrec: we are about as deep into it as I have ever gone.
[04:23] <Wrec> thor: *looks around* it's kinda dark in here...and what's that on the ground
[04:23] <Wrec> :P
[04:23] <thor> Wrec: I usually take a different approach now...try to find out from the program's homepage what dependencies there are...and make sure you have them all installed
[04:23] <linux88>  Is anyone here familiar with how the Internet works? and how dsl works?
[04:23] <Wrec> thor: put the -L back in?
[04:24] <avgenera1> [question] I can't upload my pictures in myspace, webshots, facebook, etc.
[04:24] <ant-> Wrec, you might get some help in ##c++
[04:24] <avgenera1> ...how do I upload them?
[04:24] <linux88> MYSPACE sucks
[04:24] <AdioHyperion> lol
[04:24] <Wrec> ant: thanks, I"ll do that
[04:24] <thor> Wrec: I would while you remember where it goes
[04:24] <ant-> Wrec, it might be dark in there as well...
[04:24] <avgenera1> how do you guys upload pictures?
[04:24] <jimbo> linux88
[04:24] <thor> Wrec: you can always take it out again <smile>
[04:24] <linux88> yo jimbo
[04:24] <AdioHyperion> i am trying to setup a second hard drive for storage - but when i boot, it does not always show up under the computer
[04:25] <carbine> Anyone here willing to help me with a slow boot issue?
[04:25] <jimbo> linux88: thats a pretty  broad question
[04:25] <linux88> jimbo lol i know well.... maybe u can help
[04:25] <AdioHyperion> plus when i try to access the hard drive when it does show up... it says cannot mount volume
[04:25] <usser> carbine, turn off the bootsplash screen and see where it stalls the most
[04:25] <jimbo> ok tell us the proplem
[04:26] <bullgard4> English help wanted. What is meant by 'bug-sqatting' as in http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/06/06/0146209?
[04:26] <carbine> Alrighty. I'll do that. Be back in a bit. Thanks!
[04:26] <linux88> jimbo ok when you ifconfig   under bcast: theres an ip, which im assuming is giving me my internet. how do i find out what that ip is?
[04:26] <linux88> jimbo i wana know how im getting my internet
[04:27] <AdioHyperion> that makes no sense
[04:27] <AdioHyperion> can anyone help me with my slave drive?
[04:27] <Wrec> is it asking for a raise?
[04:27] <linux88> adiohyperion has it ever shwon up?
[04:27] <AdioHyperion> yes
[04:28] <Wrec> lol
[04:28] <AdioHyperion> but not every time
[04:28] <linux88> adiohyperion is it 50 /50?
[04:28] <AdioHyperion> yeah about
[04:28] <Wrec> thor: thanks for helping me
[04:28] <Wrec> thor: I have to leave now :(
[04:28] <AdioHyperion> like every other time
[04:28] <linux88> adiohyperion hm is it external?
[04:28] <AdioHyperion> both are internal
[04:28] <thor> Wrec: good luck
[04:28] <heavyd> my hot water tank blew up. Darn.
[04:29] <AdioHyperion> the jumpers on both hard drives are set to cable select
[04:29] <heavyd> woops.. wrong channel
[04:29] <AdioHyperion> i am booting off of the master disk
[04:29] <alecwh> !linux
[04:29] <ubotu> Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[04:29] <linux88> adiohyperion why cable? shouldnt one be master and the other slave
[04:30] <AdioHyperion> one disk is master and the other is slave
[04:30] <peepsalot> every time i try to install an app now(via apt-get), it hangs on  "Setting up [package name] ..."
[04:30] <xxx> hi! am back!
[04:30] <WorkingOnWise> thor: things are bad. I cant start a terminal. cant launch synaptic to see if baobab is installed. I see via System Monitor that beagled has a ton of files open. If I kiled that process, would that also remove those files?
[04:30] <linux88> adiohyperion hmm i dont know then. try the livecd a few times and see  how often u see it
[04:30] <linux88> peepsalot use wireshark
[04:31] <AdioHyperion> is there a way to use the terminal and delete the partition off of the hard drive
[04:31] <carbine> Thinking the splash screen may have been the problem...
[04:31] <Flannel> AdioHyperion: sure.  What are you looking to do with it?
[04:31] <peepsalot> linux88 what would I use that for
[04:31] <xxx> is there a repair disk for ubuntu?
[04:31] <AdioHyperion> i just want to use the slave drive for storage
[04:31] <peepsalot> linux88, it doesn't hang during download
[04:32] <xxx> i think my system broke
[04:32] <linux88> peepsalot oh...sorry i dont know then
[04:32] <AdioHyperion> but im sure i screwed up the partition
[04:32] <carbine> Disabled the splash screen and it just blew right on through. =D
[04:32] <Caplain> is there an ubuntu server channel?
[04:32] <Flannel> AdioHyperion: ah.  check out `parted`
[04:32] <AdioHyperion> need to start over but i cant find what im looking for on google
[04:32] <carbine> Thanks much for the help.
[04:32] <Flannel> Caplain: This is the best place to ask
[04:32] <peepsalot> linux88, it's after it unpacks it, then it says it's setting it up
[04:32] <Tixer> I just connected two HDDs to my server, and they're not mounting. How do I mount them?
[04:32] <AdioHyperion> what are you talking about
[04:32] <AdioHyperion> 'parted'
[04:32] <linux88> peepsalot i dont know, but ti hurts when package managers break. try synaptic
[04:33] <Flannel> AdioHyperion: Its a terminal program you can use to do partitioning from the terminal
[04:33] <AdioHyperion> okay
[04:33] <Caplain> well i have 4 ethernet adapters in my box which is acting as a bridge, 1 is wireless and connects to the router for the internet, i can ping it from the box, i can ping my bridge from my client but i cant ping the router from my client
[04:33] <AdioHyperion> http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/download.shtml
[04:33] <AdioHyperion> this?
[04:34] <donkeyofdarkness> orly?
[04:34] <Mr_Awesom1> rly
[04:34] <Flannel> AdioHyperion: Its already installed but yes.
[04:34] <donkeyofdarkness> :o
[04:34] <Tixer> how do I see what HDD's are connected?
[04:34] <Flannel> Tixer: sudo fdisk -l
[04:35] <Flannel> Tixer: thats a lower case L
[04:35] <AdioHyperion> my slave drive shows up when i do that btw
[04:35] <donkeyofdarkness> slave
[04:35] <donkeyofdarkness> o_O
[04:35] <ant-> heh
[04:35] <donkeyofdarkness> That's why I like sata
[04:35] <Tixer> does fdisk -l list USB drives?
[04:35] <donkeyofdarkness> no jumpers needed
[04:36] <donkeyofdarkness> just plug em all in and pick which one to boot from in the bios
[04:36] <donkeyofdarkness> :)
[04:36] <WorkingOnWise> something has consumed all the free space on my coputer. how can I find out what has done it and here the space is taken what file(s) are using it? The last time I had this problem it was a problem with beagle but that was back with Ubuntu 7.04 herd 3 if I remember. I removed beagle and the problem was fixed. My immediate problem, at least based on last time, it that if I shut down with 0 space on/ I wont be able to log in
[04:36] <Bonste1> any1 no how to compile from source?
[04:37] <donkeyofdarkness> yeah
[04:37] <donkeyofdarkness> ./configure
[04:37] <donkeyofdarkness> make
[04:37] <donkeyofdarkness> make install
[04:37] <donkeyofdarkness> usually
[04:37] <AdioHyperion> i downloaded the parted thing... no idea how to use it lol
[04:37] <Flannel> Tixer: no, I dont believe so.  Try lsusb and/or check your /dev/sda's (although those will be all your HDDs now)
[04:37] <Flannel> !compile | Bonste1
[04:37] <ubotu> Bonste1: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[04:38] <donkeyofdarkness> hmm
[04:38] <donkeyofdarkness> !ipod
[04:38] <AdioHyperion> ./configure command not found
[04:38] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[04:38] <AdioHyperion> any idea?
[04:38] <Flannel> AdioHyperion: parted is already installed on your system, you dont need to download it
[04:38] <DG19075> !rockbox
[04:38] <ubotu> rockbox is an open source firmware replacement for audio players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio. See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!
[04:39] <AdioHyperion> ....oh
[04:39] <AdioHyperion> can you tell me where it is located
[04:39] <Bonste1> use floola for ipod
[04:39] <brianw_> anyone here use bluetooth pan w/ a ppc phone?
[04:39] <spiffman> WorkingOnWise: did you try disk usage analyzer?
[04:39] <ryzomeYO> can someone help a ubuntu newb, please?
[04:39] <Flannel> AdioHyperion: It doesn't matter. It's in your path.  just `sudo parted whatever`
[04:39] <AdioHyperion> ok
[04:40] <AdioHyperion> sry for the stupidity... first time with linux
[04:40] <Flannel> AdioHyperion: No worries.  We all have to learn sooner or later
[04:40] <donkeyofdarkness> I've got a 3rd gen ipod nano. not supported yet
[04:40] <AdioHyperion> so put sudo parted /dev/hdb
[04:40] <AdioHyperion> ?
[04:40] <WorkingOnWise> spiffman: will it show who is using what?
[04:40] <trwww> iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --syn -s xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx -j ACCEPT
[04:41] <trwww> this rule will Accept all traffic from a specific machine with IP x.x.x.x
[04:41] <spiffman> WorkingOnWise: it will show what applications/files/folders are using more of the disk than others. just go to applications->accessories->disk usage analyzer, it should be there
[04:41] <trwww> does anyone know if a hostname will work in place of the ip address?
[04:41] <Bonste1> donkeyofdarkness: hey can u help me compile this ps2 emulator http://www.pcsx2.net/downloads.php
[04:41] <brianw_> trwww: no
[04:42] <spiffman> WorkingOnWise: and click scan filesystem
[04:42] <brianw_> trwww: although you could make a function...
[04:42] <AdioHyperion> flannel?
[04:42] <AdioHyperion> sudo parted /dev/hdb?
[04:42] <apocn> hello, how can I connect to an ipsec vpn? what vpn client do you recomend?
[04:43] <WorkingOnWise> spiffman: with 0 bytes free it wont even start....
[04:44] <ryzomeYO> can anyone help me with screen resolution problems?
[04:44] <spiffman> WorkingOnWise: oh.... hm... i'm pretty new to linux, all i can say is try to compress files/folders or delete some stuff then check the DUA again
[04:44] <ryzomeYO> trying to get more than 640x480 and 800x600
[04:44] <WorkingOnWise> and I cant even use man...how do I properly shut down beagled and beagled-helper from the command line? I can still issue commande vie Alt-F2
[04:44] <meeper> Missing trailing-" in remote-shell command. <--- anybody know what this means coming from rsync?
[04:45] <spiffman> WorkingOnWise: in terminal type jobs... does it show up there?
[04:45] <AdioHyperion> i am using parted and making a new partition
[04:46] <WorkingOnWise> spiffman: the closest I can get to a terminal in this state is Alt-F2. I can see all my running processes with System Monitor...
[04:46] <AdioHyperion> i chose ext2
[04:46] <usser> AdioHyperion, ext3 would be a better choice
[04:46] <Varanger> I recently upgraded my Internet to 1500 kbps!!! I am downloading very fast!!!
[04:46] <usser> AdioHyperion, or reiserfs
[04:46] <AdioHyperion> what is the start and end?
[04:47] <usser> Varanger, Kilobytes?
[04:47] <meeper> anybody, anybody at all?
[04:47] <AdioHyperion> ok i will redo it
[04:47] <AdioHyperion> i still need to know what the start and end is
[04:47] <darkentity> has anybody gotten azureus vuze to function in ubuntu ???
[04:47] <apocn_> hello, how can I connect to an ipsec vpn? what vpn client do you recomend?
[04:47] <usser> apocn, try ipsec-tools
[04:47] <apocn_> Im using ubuntu 7.10
[04:47] <Varanger> usser: kilobauds. I was used to downloading up to 66 kilobytes/sec .... now 154 KB / sec !!!
[04:47] <apocn_> ok
[04:48] <spiffman> WorkingOnWise: alt-f2 is only an application launcher, it wont do anything if you can't launch any applications... lol what exactly is happening on your comp?
[04:48] <usser> Varanger, oh lol, i got 1.5Mbps :)
[04:48] <AdioHyperion> i hate to pop you bubble... but 1500kbps is slow
 you could add a journal and turn your ext2 partition into a ext3 one
[04:48] <Leonord> i have 4mbps and it's too damn slow !
[04:48] <cm_> hi, i'm looking to install ubuntu on my new mac mini ... should i download the install for a "standard personal computer" or "64 AMD and Intel computers"? ... it'll probably go without saying, but i'm a total newbie to this ... all i know about my cpu is that it's 1.83 GHx Intel Core 2 Duo
[04:48] <AdioHyperion> have 6mbps and about to get 10mbps
[04:49] <Leonord> *bandwidth envy*
[04:49] <peepsalot> does anyone know any GUI cvs app besides gcvs?
[04:49] <AdioHyperion> anyways... what is the start and end making a partition
[04:49] <DG19075> *extreme bandwidth eny*
[04:49] <Varanger> sorry... I meant 1.5 Mbps = 150 KB / sec for me!!
[04:49] <darkentity> does anyone here use azureus on ubuntu?
[04:50] <WorkingOnWise> spiffman: something has consumed all space on / , and in that state, you cant log into anything, most apps wont launch. I need to find out what is eating drive space.
[04:51] <donkeyofdarkness> azureus is really buggy for me
[04:51] <donkeyofdarkness> so I use ktorrent
[04:51] <peepsalot> Varanger, 1.5Mbps = 187.5 KBps
[04:51] <slaytanic> I use deluge, it's a good bittorrent client.
[04:51] <jimbo> transmission is nice too
[04:51] <AdioHyperion> i download at almost 800 kb/s
[04:51] <ubuntu_> buggy means?
[04:51] <brianw_> anyone here use bluetooth pan w/ a ppc phone?
[04:52] <donkeyofdarkness> crashing
[04:52] <Varanger> peepsalot: For me, it's just 154 KBps :(
[04:52] <AdioHyperion> could someone please tell me what the start and end is when making a new partition so i can finish
[04:52] <donkeyofdarkness> I dun remember why
[04:52] <spiffman> WorkingOnWise: I would probably try deleting/compressing what i can just to get disk usage analyzer to work, but someone else might have a better answer :P
[04:52] <peepsalot> i get about 4Mbps or 500KB/s
[04:52] <donkeyofdarkness> ktorrent seems a lot more stable.
[04:53] <AdioHyperion> i use utorrent
[04:53] <AdioHyperion> love it
[04:53] <donkeyofdarkness> I use azureus on mac and windows
[04:53] <spiffman> azureus on ubuntu was really unstable for me too
[04:54] <donkeyofdarkness> It was ok on feisty
[04:54] <jdt> hi, is there a simple explaination as to why Ubuntu Gutsy would not recognise all 4Gb RAM on a MacPro?   (2 x 2Gb)
[04:54] <AdioHyperion> i still need to know what the start and end is when making a new partition
[04:54] <donkeyofdarkness> jdt, yes
[04:54] <jdt> It only recognises 2Gb
[04:54] <Varanger> peepsalot: that's a lot... I remembered when I used to download at 1.5 KBps (14400 modem) and when I upgraded to 57.6 modem... 5.7 KBps just 4 years ago
[04:54] <donkeyofdarkness> Are you running a 32bit OS?
[04:55] <donkeyofdarkness> a 32 bit os will not be able to use it all
[04:55] <jdt> donkeyofdarkness: yes, the 32 bit version
[04:55] <peepsalot> Varanger, yeah i once had a 2400 bps too ;-)  good ol Prodigy
[04:55] <weltschmerz> how do i choose a different audio device in pulseaudio?
[04:55] <weltschmerz> it's trying to play on the usb.
[04:55] <donkeyofdarkness> I have a box with 4GBs ram and a 32 bit OS will only use like 3.2GBs
[04:55] <spiffman> is there a limit to ram for 64-bit?
[04:56] <andhi> haiii
[04:56] <donkeyofdarkness> I'm sure there is a limit for 64 bit but it's probably an insanely high number
[04:56] <usser> spiffman, in 64 bit the limit is 2^64 power
[04:56] <darkentity> does anyone use azureus on ubuntu?
[04:56] <timsandtoms> Hey guys, quick question. I have the Maya CD, which of these do I use to install it? http://i2.tinypic.com/6ljonxz.png
[04:57] <Dr_willis> 64bit i think is like 16 petabytes or somthing like that
[04:57] <AdioHyperion> would someone explain to me what the start and end mean when making a new partition
[04:57] <peepsalot> darkentity, i tried a while ago, but the package was constantly broken
[04:57] <peepsalot> did they ever fix it?
[04:57] <donkeyofdarkness> = O
[04:57] <donkeyofdarkness> my board only supports 8 GBs :(
[04:57] <brianw_> AdioHyperion: the blocks
[04:58] <AdioHyperion> how do i know what i need to set mine to
[04:58] <trwww> brianw_: thanks!
[04:58] <darkentity> peepsalot: it works but the vuze interface is not there...i want it the way u would get as windows where u could download all there videos
[04:58] <usser> AdioHyperion, its precisely what it is start is the address at which the partition starts ends where it ends
[04:58] <jdt> donkeyofdarkness: Thanks for the quick answer...  I will give the 64bit download version a go. Out of curiosity, what is the reason for the limit?
[04:58] <DG19075> 2^64=<PHONE_NUMBER>3709551616
[04:58] <Dr_willis> AdioHyperion,  you can have more then 1 parittion. they can start at different locations on the hard drive. and thus end at different spots.  if you want ot use the whole drive use the start of the hd. and the end of the hd. you get a single partition then
[04:58] <brianw_> AdioHyperion: use cfdisk
[04:58] <brianw_> AdioHyperion: and just set the MB or you want it to be...
[04:58] <darkentity> does anyone know how to get that vuze interface on azureus ...does it even exist for ubuntu?
[04:59] <Dr_willis> AdioHyperion,  you may also want to check out gparted, with fdisk you can select the start of the partion then use +100gb to make the end be 100gb later.
[04:59] <MagickalHack> Do xD cards work with Ubuntu?
[04:59] <jimbo> timsandtoms: you can use alien to install rpms, find out about it by typing "apt-cache show alien"
[04:59] <Varanger> I am leaving bye!
[04:59] <timsandtoms> jimbo: type that here in IRC, or in Terminal? I'm new to IRC, sorry
[05:00] <Tixer> I have a HUGE linux issue: I just added 2 external USB drives, and Ubuntu isn't detecting them
[05:00] <AdioHyperion> omg i was using all that parted stuff and all i had to do is type cfdisk /dev/hdb
[05:00] <AdioHyperion> ....
[05:00] <MagickalHack> timsandtoms that would be in terminal
[05:00] <brianw_> AdioHyperion: :)
[05:00] <spiffman> timsandtoms: .rpm is for redhat linux, like fedora. ubuntu uses .deb package files, that's why you have to use alien to convert the .rpm to .deb
[05:00] <AdioHyperion> tixer... are they showing up using sudo fdisk -l
[05:01] <usser> Tixer, how do u figure?
 a terminal, if that yeild nothing, you could try "apt-cace search alien"
[05:01] <AdioHyperion> -l mean lower case L
[05:01] <timsandtoms> MagickalHack: Ah, ok, thanks :)
[05:01] <MagickalHack> Do xD cards work with Ubuntu?
[05:01] <timsandtoms> spiffman: Oh, ok, thanks
[05:01] <Tixer> No, they don't appear there.. they're USB sata drives.
[05:01] <AdioHyperion> btw tx brian
[05:01] <brianw_> AdioHyperion: no worries mate
[05:01] <timsandtoms> jimbo: yeh, it worked. How do i install it?
[05:02] <brianw_> AdioHyperion: now help me get bluetooth PAN working w/ my htc ppc6800 phone :)
[05:02] <darkentity> nevermind i got vuze to work
[05:02] <jimbo> apt-get install alien
[05:03] <timsandtoms> jimbo: Ok, awesome, thanks
[05:03] <spiffman> so i'm on a dell vostro 200, 64 bit gutsy... it seems my cd-dvd drive does everything except for write files and can't even recognize blank cd-r's.. how do i start toubleshooting?
[05:03] <Tixer> so does anyone have any idea why my drives won't mount?
[05:03] <spiffman> ....by troubleshooting... i mean.. "where to begin?"
[05:04] <jimbo>  <timsandtoms>i'd try the redhat rpm first, if i were you
[05:04] <MagickalHack> Do xD cards work with Ubuntu?
[05:04] <timsandtoms> jimbo: Ok. Out of curiosity, why that particular one?
[05:04] <Creationist> How do I adjust the resolution used by GDM?  It's completely different from my normal resolution and distorted.
 I think the tool was intended to install that distrobution's software
[05:05] <usser> Creationist, in xorg
[05:06] <matt5> Hi, I'm giving my friend my laptop -- I'd like to do a rough clean-up, to sort of erase my private files and all. Any tips on how I could do it easily/fast, please?
[05:06] <Creationist> usser: Where in xorg?
[05:06] <spiffman> timsandtoms: "maya on ubuntu" in google gives you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66859
[05:06] <timsandtoms> jimbo: Oh, ok, makes sense :) Redhats stuff will work fine on ubuntu 7.10 probably?
[05:06] <usser> Creationist, find the section with resolutions and find the line that starts with 24 and put whatever resolution u use first
[05:06] <timsandtoms> spiffman: Ok, thanks, ill go read that
[05:07] <usser> Creationist, gdm picks up the first resolution it sees
[05:07] <Creationist> usser: Gotcha.. thank you.
[05:08] <spiffman> just curious, i'm not hip to all the jargon yet, gdm = gnome desktop manager?
[05:08] <riotkittie> no. Gnome Display Manager, spiffman
[05:08] <spiffman> ah, close :P
[05:08] <riotkittie> no wait.
[05:08] <riotkittie> maybe i'm wrong. :shuts up and goes away:
[05:08] <spiffman> haha
[05:08] <Tixer> I have two files in /dev, USBdev1.1_epXX, what are they.
[05:08] <FireHazard17> !flash | FireHazard17
[05:08] <riotkittie> no i'm right. ;>
[05:09] <spiffman> cool, mentally noted
[05:09] <riotkittie> it's like, the login screen.
[05:09] <Helmi> hey all - my startup procedure with gnome is a mess. i'd like to tidy this a bit. what are the places where changes could be made for "gnome autostart" except the sessions in the system menu?
[05:09] <riotkittie> and everything else, i guess.
[05:09] <Evilsss> Hi
[05:09] <WorkingOnWise> does apt save to /var/cache/apt/archives every deb I have installed?
[05:10] <spiffman> gotcha
[05:10] <riotkittie> WorkingOnWise: ls it and find out? :P
[05:10] <FireHazard17> WorkingOnWise: I am almost certain
[05:10] <riotkittie> but i'd say yes. it does.
[05:11] <AdioHyperion> linux is TICKING ME OFF
[05:11] <command0-182> For some reason synaptic can't connect to the web, but I know I'm online
[05:11] <Creationist> usser: That didn't do it.  There's a line just above the resolution modes though that says "virtual"   Is that the one I need to change?
[05:11] <AdioHyperion> i del a partition and make a new one and none of the file are gone!!!!
[05:11] <spiffman> can anyone help me figure out why my cd-dvd doesn't recognize blank disks? and henceforth k3b "cannot find a cd-dvd writer"?
[05:12] <timsandtoms> comman0-182: Open up Add/Remove and go to properties and make sure the boxes are checked to let ya download
[05:12] <command0-182> When I connect to the web, I can browse 'n stuff but when I go to update my repositories it says that the connection was refused
[05:12] <AdioHyperion> brian are you still there?
[05:12] <Palintheus> AdioHyperion: what did you use to delete the partition?
[05:12] <AdioHyperion> cfdisk
[05:12] <WorkingOnWise> riotkittie: I am looking as Disk Usage Analyzer and it shows  /var/cache/apt/archives has 2205 files in it consuming 2.6GB! how can I purge that? I have already installed all them! I sure don't need them burning disk space!
[05:12] <AnYoNeSNM> hello
[05:12] <CyberMad> i would like to install virtual machine at ubuntu, but i confuse to choose between VMware-server or VirtualBox, which one do you recommend ?
[05:12]  * Creationist has never heard of cfdisk
[05:12] <Palintheus> me either
[05:13] <command0-182> I can see the repository ftp in my browser, but why can't synaptic or update-manter see it
[05:13] <spiffman> command0-182: did you try updating/upgrading synaptic?
[05:13] <AnYoNeSNM> animore used asterisk ?
[05:13] <Creationist> CyberMad: VirtualBox is the easiest to configure and use.  VMWare is more robust.
[05:13] <Creationist> CyberMad: What are you trying to do?
[05:13] <command0-182> how do u upgrade synaptic
[05:13] <Shadow147> CyberMad I have never used virutalbox but vmware is good but I would go with virtualbox
[05:14] <MagickalHack> Do xD cards work with Ubuntu?
[05:14] <Creationist> command0-182: Run sudo apt-get update
[05:14] <Palintheus> command0-182: what error are you getting? can you use apt-get?
[05:14] <Palintheus> MagickalHack: if the card reader is supported
[05:14] <spiffman> Creationist: that's aptitude, not synaptic
[05:14] <CyberMad> Creationist i want to set up some virtual machine with Windows XP OS (genuine), then i enable the Remote Desktop feature
[05:14] <Shadow147> MagickalHack they should
[05:14] <MagickalHack> ENE 5-in-1
[05:14] <Creationist> spiffman: Uhm, it will still update the repositories for Synaptic.
[05:14] <command0-182> no I can't use apt-get it says it couldn't connect to the repositories
[05:14] <Palintheus> google is your friend MagickalHack i have no idea if its supported ;)
[05:14] <timsandtoms> For Maya, the guide you gave me says I need to copy the RPMs and then convert them. When I copy them, it says cannot be copied because I dont have the permissions to read it
[05:14] <mengzihan> Hello
[05:15] <WorkingOnWise> Shadow147: y do u recomend VB over VMware?
[05:15] <Creationist> CyberMad: Then VirtualBox is definitely the way to go.
[05:15] <CyberMad> so, in office almost of computers use Ubuntu as desktop OS, then sometime we need to access software at windows
[05:15] <spiffman> Creationist: ok... gotcha :S, i'm learning!
[05:15] <Palintheus> command0-182: what error specifically, have you tried using a different mirror?
[05:15] <command0-182> It just gives my a long list of all the repositories and says 111 connection refused
[05:15] <CyberMad> example: we need to do AutoCAD, Microsoft Office 2007
[05:15] <pgan> Is it possible to resize a FAT32 partition without losing the data that is on it?
[05:15] <Creationist> spiffman: Synaptic is just a GUI that uses apt-get.
[05:15] <command0-182> I've tried the main mirror and the US mirror
[05:16] <Shadow147> CyberMad I have used Vmware it's configuration process is a pain in the ass
[05:16] <Les_Caesars> pgan: as much as I know, there shouldn't be any problem at all
[05:16] <CyberMad> Does VirtualBox, support auto start? i mean auto start the virtual box, and all defined guest OS (XP)
[05:16] <Palintheus> pgan: if it was a windows partition defrag several times prior to resizing
[05:16] <Shadow147> I might try virtualbox myself
[05:16] <CyberMad> so no need to start it manually
[05:16] <usser> Shadow147, not really its not that hard
[05:16] <spiffman> Creationist: oh! that makes sense, i thought there were two different package managers
[05:16] <Creationist> CyberMad: It can be done, but I've never tried it.
[05:16] <CyberMad> actually i want install it on ubuntu-server, so there is no XWindow or graphical interface
[05:16] <pgan> Can it be done with parted or fdisk?
[05:16] <Creationist> spiffman: Nope.  Even in KDE (Kubuntu) you use Adept for the GUI package manager.  But that too actually uses apt-get ;)
[05:17] <WorkingOnWise> CyberMad: I use VB...love it, but it is No Good At All for any kind of 3d work.
[05:17] <Dr_willis> pgan,  not with fdisk. parted, or gparted can.
[05:17] <Palintheus> pgan: can what be done defragging or resizing the partition?
[05:17] <spiffman> Creationist: so what does add-remove programs do differently from synaptic, other than look nicer?
[05:17] <CyberMad> btw, how to configure / install the guest os? on vmware use vmware console,... hmmm how about virtualbox ?
[05:17] <Shadow147> CyberMad which VMware may work with
[05:17] <command0-182> This is what it says what I use "Update Manger" ; "Could not download all repository indexes
[05:17] <AdioHyperion> would some one help me!!! i have spent two freakin days trying to format this dam hard drive to ext
[05:17] <command0-182> The repository might be no longer available or could not be contacted because of network problems. If available an older version of the failed index will be used. Otherwise the repository will be ignored. Check your network connection and the correct writing of the repository address in the preferences."
[05:17] <dion> greetings, how can i get my virtualbox to allow online games, it lets me use internet fine for browsing
[05:17] <Creationist> spiffman: Add/Remove just is a simpler interface... nothing more.  It, too, uses apt-get underneath ;)
[05:17] <timsandtoms> For Maya, the guide someone gave me to install it says I need to copy the RPMs and then convert them. When I copy them, it says cannot be copied because I dont have the permissions to read it. what do i do?
[05:17] <Les_Caesars> Even though I have wine installed, when I double click on .exe's, I get this popup telling me to rename the file to *.exe and/or use "open with"
[05:17] <Shadow147> !vmware
[05:17] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[05:18] <spiffman> Creationist: thanks!
[05:18] <Dr_willis> Les_Caesars,  with wine. i find it often better to use the terminal 'wine /path/to/whatever.exe'  In case any error messages are generated.
[05:18] <Shadow147> CyberMad | !vmware
[05:18] <pgan> Palintheus: both, I guess. What can I use in Linux to defrag?
[05:18] <Palintheus> AdioHyperion: I have never used cfdisk, you can try a different partition manager, qparted or similar
[05:18] <Palintheus> pgan: not sure never had to do it in linux
[05:18] <CyberMad> Shadow147 well, i already successfull setup vmware-server with 1 XP as guest os and it can autostart, but after do some google looks like many people recommend VirtualBox than VMware, that's why i need second opinion from #ubuntu
[05:18] <WorkingOnWise> CyberMad: I use Ubuntu 7.10 as host, WinXP Home as guest for Offive 2007 enterprise. I give the vm 512MB of ram and 64mb of video ram. I do this on a turion x2 1.6 and 1GB ram....it is reasonably useful but I would rather do it with 4GB
[05:18] <brad016> how do I unpack .nrg files
[05:18] <riotkittie> pgan: what are you wanting to defrag?
[05:18] <Creationist> CyberMad: If you install Virtual Box, trust me.... the setup is incredibly simple.  It walks you through the entire process of setting up your guest OSes
[05:19] <AdioHyperion> i tried to use parted but no one would tell me how to figure out the start and end
[05:19] <bullgard4> Why does Ubuntu 7.10 on one laptop computer (5 s after the first) INIT process a second one but not on my second laptop computer?
[05:19] <dion> thanx
[05:19] <AdioHyperion> people get me started on something then never respond!
[05:19] <AnYoNeSNM> hello
[05:19] <spiffman> lol
[05:19] <anggarda> Good Day, #ubuntu. Could anyone recommend me a method to back up whole disk drives to tape.
[05:19] <AnYoNeSNM> somebody used asterisk ?
[05:19] <Les_Caesars> Dr_willis: well, I'm willing to turn a deaf ear for the convenience of having the computer do what I expected when I double-click a file
[05:20] <Dr_willis> AdioHyperion,  it all depends on what you want to do. the start is the cylinder # you want to begin at.. and end is where you want to stop.  Gpartd is a nice gui front end to  ease your partitioning tasks.
[05:20] <CyberMad> Creationist ok, the important question.. anyway i don't really care about the difficulty about installation. How about the performance? stability? does VirtualBox is the winner?
[05:20] <Creationist> anggarda: They still make tape drives? ll
[05:20] <webpirate> hello all...
[05:20] <pgan> riotkittie: a  formatted in FAT32, which has valuable data on it
[05:20] <Les_Caesars> how do I go about getting rid of the error?
[05:20] <CyberMad> if yes, then i'll go to VirtualBox and remove the vmware
[05:20] <webpirate> does anyone have any Ideas to to lower CPU usage for DVD playback on nvidia 420 go
[05:20] <Dr_willis> Les_Caesars,  problem i find with double clicking on .exe's is that often wine will crash or report some error and peopel end up just sitting there  staring at the screen. :)
[05:20] <DG19075> I'm running Adobe Audition 1.5 under Wine, and notice th transport buttons don't fill their squares as they do under Windows.  I have Wine mimicking XP. Anyone have this problem?
[05:20] <CyberMad> because it will run 24/7
[05:20] <AnYoNeSNM> win95 its some thing :)
[05:20] <AnYoNeSNM> the bets ting.
[05:20] <Creationist> CyberMad: I never was able to get vmware going so I gave up and went to VirtualBox.  I never had ANY performance issues with WinXP.... however, I've had a LOT of trouble running Linux as a guest OS.
[05:20] <AnYoNeSNM> life win95
[05:21] <webpirate> I used to use about 10% cpu before formating now ubuntu wants 40
[05:21] <AnYoNeSNM> format c: ? ;)
[05:21] <WorkingOnWise> CyberMad: for me, xp is able...just slow.hurt for ram when runnung any Office app, but is still st
[05:21] <Dr_willis> Les_Caesars,  i normally test out a program in wine from the terminal, then if it works i make a script that launches it.  then i can always click on the script. or run the script from a terminal.
[05:21] <CyberMad> Creationist well, i use the XP too..
[05:21] <Agent> i have a warzone2100 game when i load a game is crashs, how do i fix it ?
[05:21] <Shadow147> I had no problem running linux under vmwaree
[05:21] <command0-182> For some reason I haven't been able to access any of my repositories "http://archive.ubuntu.com/" & "http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/"
[05:21] <anggarda> Creationist, yes tape drives are very much alive and well in any organisations which are sarbanes-oxley compliant
[05:21] <infinitycircuit> does anyone know if a kernel being compiled to optimize battery life on a laptop should use a kernel with preemption enabled or with preemption disabled?
[05:21] <Creationist> Shadow147: I can't even load the Ubuntu Live CD ISO in VirtualBox...
[05:22] <CyberMad> ok, thanks a lot for discussion.. i will test it right now
[05:22] <Les_Caesars> Dr_willis: well fortunately, that's not a problem I care about. The popups shouldn't be coming up anyway. They basically say "this doesn't have .exe at the end, so I won't run it" even though the files do.
[05:22] <command0-182> Any reason why Synaptic can't connect to the web
[05:22] <Dr_willis> ive had lots of issues testing out live cd's in virtualbox.
[05:22] <webpirate> what is the average CPU usage on 420 go?
[05:22] <command0-182> Any reason why Synaptic can't connect to the web?
[05:22] <DM|> Creationist how much ram do u have dedicated to the Vbox?
[05:22] <CyberMad> just download the http://www.virtualbox.org/download/1.5.2/virtualbox_1.5.2-25433_Ubuntu_gutsy_i386.deb  right?  then dpkg -i virtualbox_1.5.2-25433_Ubuntu_gutsy_i386.deb   ??
[05:22] <Creationist> DM|: I've tried 256 and 512
[05:22] <Dr_willis> Les_Caesars,  is the .exe in LOWER case? never noticed  if thats an issue or not. but linux is case senestive.
[05:22] <DM|> Creationist tried a different disk?
[05:22] <AdioHyperion> i am assuming start would be 1 right?
[05:22] <bullgard4> Why does Ubuntu 7.10 start on one laptop computer 5 s after the first a second INIT process but not on my second laptop computer?
[05:22] <riotkittie> command0-182: have you tried different repos? your preferred repo may be down ... or ...
[05:23] <Les_Caesars> Dr_willis: it is lower cased. Let me try other cases to see if that changes anything.
[05:23] <Creationist> DM|: I've tried several different distros.... none will load
[05:23] <AdioHyperion> what is the end point?
[05:23] <Dr_willis> AdioHyperion,  or 0 normally you just hit enter and it selects the end
[05:23] <Palintheus> command0-182: can you run 'sudo apt-get update' and pastebin the output?
[05:23] <Dr_willis> AdioHyperion,  at least thats how fdisk normally works.
[05:23] <webpirate> can different versions of libdvdcss use more CPU?
[05:23] <Dr_willis> AdioHyperion,  assuming you want the whole disk.
[05:23] <DM|> Creationist , i dedicated 256 ram to a Vbox for live CD and it runs great for me, so .. im thinking u have bad CDs,
[05:23] <Creationist> CyberMad: VirtualBox is in the Ubuntu repos.  sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose
[05:23] <DM|> or a REALLY slow pc
[05:23] <CyberMad> wow.. the VirtualBox is very small.. compare to vmware > 100MB
[05:23] <Agent> who here can tell me why warzone2100 game crashs when loading a game ?
[05:24] <Creationist> DM|: I use the ISOs, not actual CDs
[05:24] <AdioHyperion> i put 0 for start and when i leave end blank
[05:24] <AdioHyperion> it just goes to the next line
[05:24] <AdioHyperion> end?
[05:24] <AdioHyperion> end?
[05:24] <Palintheus> Agent: depends on what error its giving you
[05:24] <CyberMad> Creationist ahh.. ok, better use apt-get install ;) easy to remove
[05:24] <DM|> creationist replace CD with ISO and could still have the same problem
[05:24] <CyberMad> if something problem come
[05:24] <matthewpoer> I'm attempting to connect my Etch system to my blackberry, but it seems impossible to pair the devices together. I have set the passkey in /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf as well as /etc/bluetooth/pin. Still they cannot connect.
[05:24] <idiosync> how to run as root
[05:24] <DM|> Creationist what specs are u running
[05:24] <Dr_willis> AdioHyperion,  you using cfdisk? or fdis? or what exactly?
[05:24] <Creationist> !sudo | idiosync
[05:24] <ubotu> idiosync: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:24] <Les_Caesars> Dr_willis: aha! that was indeed the problem. Ok. now I want to associate every possible combination of .ExE to wine by hand. Where do I go to associate file suffixes with programs?
[05:24] <DM|> idiosync I will tell you, but what for?
[05:24] <AdioHyperion> i am using parted
[05:24] <anggarda> anyone, with experience of backing up whole partitions to tape?
[05:24] <Agent> Palintheus:is doesn't give a error it just showdown the game.
[05:25] <Creationist> DM|: Oh crap, yeah... I should have asked him that first.
[05:25] <Palintheus> Agent: you can run it from a terminal to see if it will spit out an error there
[05:25] <AdioHyperion> unless you can walk me step by step through something else
[05:25] <DM|> Creationist :)
[05:25] <Agent> Palintheus:remind me how to do that.
[05:25] <CyberMad> do you know what is file manager, but i can do management file (backup, restore, etc) as root ?
[05:26] <DM|> bbl
[05:26] <Dr_willis> Les_Caesars,  No idea on that. :) i tend to just lowercase my files.. of course i onlyu have  a few .exe's i ever use.
[05:26] <Dr_willis> Les_Caesars,  at least you found the main issue.
[05:26] <matt5> Hi, I'd like to do a rough clean-up, to sort of erase my private files and all (as I'm "donating" the laptop). Any tips on how I could do it easily/fast via command-line, please?
[05:26] <Palintheus> Agent: find out what command the launcher runs, then open a terminal and run the command
[05:26] <WorkingOnWise> how can I purge the apt cache?
[05:26] <command0-182> Okay I ran "sudo apt-get update" and this is what it says; http://pastebin.com/m7b572f1c
[05:26] <Les_Caesars> Dr_willis: Yup, and thanks for that
[05:26] <AdioHyperion> please help!
[05:26] <usser> WorkingOnWise, just sudo rm -rf /var/cache/apt/archive
[05:27] <Creationist> command0-182: Man, you screwed something up bad.
[05:27] <timsandtoms> command0-182: Go into Add/Remove or Synaptic or w/e, and check all the boxes to let you download from all the different sources
[05:27] <usser> WorkingOnWise, just sudo rm -rf /var/cache/apt/archive/*

[05:27] <Palintheus> command0-182: it looks like its trying to connect to a port on your own computer vs an outside url
[05:27] <usser> WorkingOnWise, sorry the last one
[05:27] <Palintheus> not sure though
[05:27] <timsandtoms> command0-182: I had the same problem, same results, yesterday
[05:27] <usser> WorkingOnWise, theres a dir in archive called partial that will get deleted
[05:28] <usser> WorkingOnWise, so u need to do sudo mkdir /var/cache/apt/archive/partial
[05:28] <ridge-meister> is there any software on linux that can take a movie file and produce thumbnails from it?
[05:28] <WorkingOnWise> usser: apt will not freak if I do that? I need the disk space back.
[05:28] <Dr_willis> AdioHyperion,  if you are just making new parittions. on a new hd. fdisk, or cfdisk will do that task easy.. Parted has a lot of extra/power user features you proberly dont need. In fact ive never used parted from the command line. Just with gparted.
[05:28] <weltschmerz> how do i change the sound device in pulse audio?  it's trying to use the usb instead of the default pci device.
[05:28] <command0-182> "command0-182: Go into Add/Remove or Synaptic or w/e, and check all the boxes to let you download from all the different sources" - I have the boxes for different sources checked
[05:28] <Creationist> ridge-meister: As in, jpg thumbnails?  Or in your file browser?
[05:28] <usser> WorkingOnWise, yes it will, it'll complain that partial is missing
[05:28] <spiffman> can anyone point me to a solution for a cd-dvd drive that won't let me write to cd's, nor recognize blank disks? i know i asked already... if not i'll check back later
[05:29] <usser> WorkingOnWise, but after u mkdir it back all should be fine
[05:29] <ridge-meister> Creationist: not sure what you meant by "in your file browser".  but, yeah, jpg's would be great
[05:29] <timsandtoms> command0-182: ah, ok then. that fixed it for me, so i dunno
[05:29] <zandos> hey all.. how goes it
[05:29] <whatshisname> using ubuntu studio.. was wondering about a quick way to restore the default gnome panel layout..
[05:29] <punsad> curious as to what irc client people are using in ubuntu
[05:29] <WorkingOnWise> usser: ty. Y is all the debs I have already installed still there? Seems a waste of space?
[05:29] <Palintheus> punsad: irssi
[05:30] <Creationist> ridge-meister: Only thing I can think of is to run the movie, take a screenshot, and resize it.  I'm not sure if there's an automated application.
[05:30] <usser> WorkingOnWise, actually hang on a sec dont do it
[05:30] <zandos> pidgin/xchat
[05:30] <spiffman> whatshisname: delete your configuration file... maybe ~/.gconf/desktop
[05:30] <usser> WorkingOnWise, ah no go ahead it works i just tried it
[05:30] <whatshisname> thanks, spiffman, i'll try that..
[05:31] <weltschmerz> how do i choose my audio device with pulseaudio?
[05:31] <zandos> anyone here have a synaptics touchpad on their ubuntu (gutsy) laptop?
[05:31] <WorkingOnWise> usser: doin it now...  :)
[05:31] <punsad> Palintheus: is irssi curses based?
[05:31] <Palintheus> punsad: curses ::shrug:: irssi.org
[05:31] <Dr_willis> irssi has a cli/ncurses interface i beliuve.
[05:32] <usser> WorkingOnWise, i donnu its probably done so that u wont have to download heavy stuff over the net all over again if later u decided to do reisntall
[05:32] <pgan> I have an external hard disk for backing up data from ext3 partitions and sometimes accessing it on Windows.  What file system would you recommend?
[05:32] <zandos> i'll take that as a no
[05:32] <peepsalot> does anyone know what this means during an apt-get package install: "ldconfig deferred processing now taking place" ?
[05:32] <punsad> pgan: what's the processor/speed/ram?
[05:32] <usser> pgan, its pretty safe to go with ntfs now
[05:32] <Dr_willis> pgan,  windows can read/write ext2/3 with a add on tool.. but it all depends on what OS is going to be accessing it the most and what sort of data.
[05:33] <ridge-meister> Creationist, i'm no developer, but that would be a GREAT application for someone to create
[05:33] <Palintheus> peepsalot: no, but I have noticed its new since gutsy(iirc)
[05:33] <WorkingOnWise> usser: I guess that makes sense...but I have not neede to reinstall anything on Ubuntu, except to update, ever  :)
[05:33] <Creationist> ridge-meister: I only see a use for such a thing in the porn industry..
[05:33] <Creationist> ridge-meister: But good luck with that lol
[05:33] <command0-182> Under Choose a Download Server I selected the Select Best Server and it told me that it could not find the internet
[05:33] <usser> WorkingOnWise, :)
[05:33] <punsad> pgan: I'm using a 10 year old linux server with backuppc and have had less problems for some reason with ext2 than ext3 (it's a 400MHz system with 256MB ram)
[05:33] <peepsalot> Palintheus, apt-get often hangs after displaying this line
[05:34] <Palintheus> yeah briefly but haven't really looked into it
[05:34] <punsad> I've *never* had apt-get hang on me.
[05:35] <WorkingOnWise> usser: but in Windows, there have been times that the setup cd stayed in the drive for weeks  :D
[05:35] <soldats> crazy since apt-get is insanely fast
[05:35] <command0-182> Dose anyone know how I can fix this; http://pastebin.com/m7b572f1c
[05:35] <punsad> does anyone remember dselect?
[05:35] <bruenig> apt-get is not insanely fast
[05:35] <punsad> I loved that program
[05:35] <usser> WorkingOnWise, hah i forgot already what its like to use windows
[05:35] <peepsalot> Palintheus, it doesn't hang briefly for me.  it hangs indefinitely
[05:35] <pgan> Dr_willis: it will be mostly accessed on Linux, but I would want to be able to give it to someone who uses Windows to access the data. It would be better to go without installing a program on the Windows machine
[05:35] <Agent> Palintheus:first i type command warzone2100 it launches the game. then i get this error "http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46310/plain/"
[05:36] <weltschmerz> how do i choose the audio device in pulseaudio?
[05:36] <peepsalot> bruenig, IME it is comapred to yum
[05:36] <Palintheus> Agent: can you pastebin the dump file?
[05:36] <punsad> dselect was great.  it was my first introduction to the power of debian
[05:36] <bruenig> everything is faster than yum
[05:36] <peepsalot> hehe
[05:36] <Dr_willis> pgan,  then use ntfs.. but accessing ntfs can have little issues here and there. Like  not very easy to set up different permissions, and ownership. But if its just a mp3 shared disk or simieler. shouldent matter much.
[05:37] <usser> command0-182, wow weird stuff
[05:37] <WorkingOnWise> usser: I must still run it for some things, but now as a virtual machine, in it's own sandbox so if it doesn't play nice, I stil have a workstation!
[05:37] <Silmeria> so anyway, i still cant get my screen to go full screen :(
[05:37] <usser> command0-182, do host host us.archive.ubuntu.com
[05:37] <pgan> usser: are soft links, hard links and file permissions supported under NTFS?
[05:37] <usser> pgan, probably not
[05:37] <usser> pgan, :(
[05:37] <Silmeria> my display isnt using my entire moniter, theres black all around the edges. how do i fix this :(?
[05:37] <soldats> bruenig, its a lot faster than anything else ive ever used
[05:38] <usser> command0-182, just one host there sorry
[05:38] <command0-182> Can anyone help with this problem? My Synaptic and Update Manager can't connect to the web ;http://pastebin.com/m7b572f1c
[05:38] <WorkingOnWise> any ideas y System Monitor shows 3.2GB free but only 2.6 available?  I thought free was available!!
[05:38] <bruenig> soldats, try pacman on arch
[05:38] <soldats> Silmeria, can you adjust your monitor with the buttons on the case
[05:38] <command0-182> k
[05:38] <usser> command0-182, do host us.archive.ubuntu.com pastebin the output
[05:38] <Silmeria> soldats: i dont think so....
[05:38] <bruenig> or even netpkg on zenwalk which is bash for crying out loud
[05:38] <Agent> Palintheus:i can, "http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46311/plain/"
[05:38] <Silmeria> soldats:  no there arent any buttons for moniter on teh case
[05:39] <soldats> Silmeria, hmm most monitors let you do that you should have some buttons on the front or the side
[05:39] <usser> WorkingOnWise, memory?
[05:39] <Silmeria> soldats: it works fine in 7.10 but i installed 7.04
[05:39] <Csaba> anyone using brasero here?
[05:39] <weltschmerz> how do i set the device for pulseaudio to use?
[05:39] <Silmeria> soldats: in screen resolution i only get two options as well
[05:39] <Silmeria> 800x600 and some other low option
[05:39] <peepsalot> is there a way to make firefox ask the download location for each file download?
[05:40] <soldats> bruenig, ahh i never used arch yet so i would be unsure of it sorry i was just merely making a statement because apt-get is a lot faster than using synaptic
[05:40] <Palintheus> sorry Agent can't help with that you may post to the forums and upload both of the pastebins then hope someone can help
[05:40] <command0-182> Here's what I got; http://pastebin.com/m12dd8e3c
[05:40] <usser> peepsalot, in edit-preferences main tab tick ask where to save downloaded files
[05:40] <WorkingOnWise> usser: isn't that what the swap partition is for?
[05:40] <Palintheus> peepsalot: yes its edit > prefs > main
[05:41] <soldats> Silmeria, you may need to run the command dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and configure it there
[05:41] <Agent> Palintheus:thank you for trying but am not going to that much.:-*
[05:41] <soldats> Silmeria, you can  choose other resolutions
[05:41] <bruenig> soldats, oh faster than synaptic you say, I thought you were saying objectively that it was a really fast package manager. Of course it would be faster than synaptic seeing as synaptic is just a front end for apt-get and all but yeah, no harm.
[05:41] <bullgard4> Why does Ubuntu 7.10 start on one laptop computer 5 s after the first INIT process a second one but none on my second laptop computer?
[05:41] <usser> WorkingOnWise, yes but swap partition is slow so if theres available memory programs swap into physical memory
[05:41] <Silmeria> soldats: you mean with that command?
[05:42] <usser> WorkingOnWise, or so i've been lead to beieve
[05:42] <soldats> bruenig, ha its just a misunderstanding i didnt properly state my whole claim
[05:42] <soldats> Silmeria, yea
[05:42] <command0-182> I did the "host us.archive.ubuntu.com" in a terminal here's what I got; http://pastebin.com/m12dd8e3c
[05:42] <usser> command0-182, im sorry its not what i thought it was, i dont know what happens there
[05:42] <soldats> Silmeria, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in terminal
[05:43] <weltschmerz>  how do you set the audio device in pulseaudio?
[05:43] <Silmeria> woa
[05:43] <Silmeria> i am
[05:43] <Silmeria> but its asking for x server driver
[05:43] <WorkingOnWise> usser: well, my system has breathing room again so I'm not gonna fret ovet it. Thanks 4 the help.
[05:43] <usser> WorkingOnWise, np glad to help
[05:43] <soldats> Silmeria, most options should just be default until you get to the resolution part then hit spacebar on the selections you want
[05:44] <Silmeria> i am doing it in terminal
[05:44] <soldats> Silmeria, yea
[05:44] <Silmeria> tehre is no default, it was blank
[05:44] <soldats> press enter on blank
[05:44] <Silmeria> it brought the line back up again
[05:44] <soldats> it should default itself
[05:44] <Silmeria> asking for it again
[05:45] <soldats> Silmeria, hmm this is how i fixed my problem which was similar to your but have you tried google "no offense"
[05:45] <Silmeria> i have.
[05:46] <Silmeria> im not exactly sure what to type in the seach though
[05:46] <Silmeria> search*
[05:46] <soldats> Silmeria, what brand monitor do you have
[05:46] <Silmeria> oh its a laptop
[05:46] <Silmeria> guess i should have said that >
[05:46] <Silmeria> ><*
[05:46] <soldats> Silmeria, ooh than i am really unsure of what to do
[05:46] <Silmeria> alirght thanks, sorry i cant believe i forgot to say that
[05:47] <soldats> Silmeria, i rarely use laptops because i am broke and cant afford one
[05:47] <command0-182> Where's the sources list located?
[05:47] <soldats> Silmeria, from what ive used i think most screens on laptops have a black border around them
[05:47] <IanLiu> Why my Ubuntu stucks when I press the On/Off button (at top, right corner)?
[05:48] <soldats> i didnt know ubuntu had an on/off button
[05:48] <IanLiu> it freezes everything, so I must CTRL + ALT + Backspace to re-login to shut down ubuntu...
[05:48] <Palintheus> command0-182: /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:49] <soldats> IanLiu, sometimes on slow machines when you "click" shotdown it stalls
[05:49] <Csaba> if im installing a theme from a temp directory, are the files in use getting copied elsewere?
[05:49] <soldats> IanLiu, at least thats how i experienced it
[05:49] <Csaba> can i delete the temp dir when im done is what im asking
[05:49] <IanLiu> That is annoying... every time I press the shut down button, Ubuntu freezes..
[05:49] <Boogedy> G'daay
[05:49] <underwatercow> Can someone please tell me how to print out the sound card id's on the command line? (like, my revolution should is "ice1724"
[05:50] <underwatercow> be*
[05:50] <soldats> IanLiu, maybe try doing it in the terminal
[05:50] <fitztrev> underwatercow: lspci
[05:50] <IanLiu> what should I do in terminal?
[05:50] <soldats> shutdown -h now
[05:50] <weltschmerz>  how do you set the audio device in pulseaudio?
[05:50] <IanLiu> hmm
[05:50] <underwatercow> fitztrev: How do I find it from the list?
[05:51] <fitztrev> underwatercow: try this one.. it'll give you more info: "sudo lspci -v"
[05:52] <underwatercow> fitztrev: it's still not finding "ice1724"
[05:52] <bullgard4> Why does Ubuntu 7.10 start on one laptop computer 5 s after the first INIT process a second one but none on my second laptop computer?
[05:54] <ToddEDM> hey guys, is there a program like limewire that i can get , just to get a few single songs?
[05:54] <underwatercow> what about limewire?
[05:54] <underwatercow> lol
[05:54] <Boogedy> ToddEDM, you can get limewire
[05:54] <ToddEDM> something easy, as i just get a few songs a month
[05:54] <ToddEDM> Boogedy:  whats the command
[05:54] <Boogedy> Todd, you will need java first
[05:55] <Flannel> !frostwire | ToddEDM
[05:55] <ubotu> ToddEDM: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[05:55] <CyberMad> where is website that have log of this conversation?
[05:55] <weltschmerz>  how do you set the audio device in pulseaudio?
[05:55] <Palintheus> CyberMad: Im not sure #ubuntu is logged to a website
[05:55] <fitztrev> CyberMad: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[05:55] <ere4si> !log
[05:55] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - Logs for LoCo channels are at http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/
[05:56] <cafuego> Is there ayone running php5 on feisty who has been getting segfaults in PHP since the security update this morning?
[05:56] <CyberMad> thanks.. i ask a question few minutes ago, but my PC crash.. so i need to see the answer
[05:57] <ToddEDM> !java
[05:57] <ubotu> To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[05:57] <neil_d> I have a back & white logo jpeg I would like to convert it to postscript is there an easy way to do this ?
[05:58] <Shadow147> !jpeg to ps
[05:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jpeg to ps - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:59] <Shadow147> neil_d just get a picture editor that can make .ps files
[05:59] <Dr_willis> gimp can do that cant it?
[05:59] <Shadow147> ok go ahead and try gimp
[06:00] <Shadow147> you can even you xpaint
[06:00] <Shadow147> use*
[06:01] <CyberMad> looks like the ubuntu irc log not up-to-date..
[06:01] <CyberMad> well i decide.. to re-ask my question:
[06:02] <CyberMad> what is the best file manager on ubuntu, so i can move files from user's directory to other.. i need file manager that can sudo or login as root
[06:02] <CyberMad> or su
[06:02] <soldats> why not use the default
[06:02] <Dr_willis> CyberMad,  i tend to use 'mc' for my rooty stuff. :) since its also useable from the shell and over ssh. easially
[06:03] <Palintheus> CyberMad: alt-f2 > gksudo nautilus
[06:03] <CyberMad> Dr_willis does mc graphical user interface or need terminal ?
[06:03] <psycore> kiba dock does not dock on my taskbar instead in stay on-top of it. how to solve?
[06:03] <Dr_willis> CyberMad,  sudo mc, do what needs to be done.. and close it out. :) using the gui file maager.. can.. cause issues.. if you forget which file manager window was started with root access.
[06:03] <Dr_willis> CyberMad,  mc is a text based/ncurses interface.
[06:03] <CyberMad> thanks all.. i'll test thema all
[06:03] <Dr_willis> !info mc
[06:03] <sahil> where can i get the alpha 1 for hardy heron
[06:03] <Dr_willis> mc is darn handy at times. :P
[06:04] <ubotu> mc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-7ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 2058 kB, installed size 5944 kB
[06:04] <kakoonia> psycore: use avant-window-navigator , its better! using less memory also..
[06:05] <psycore> kakoonia: where do I get it? can u give me the code? (noob here, just switch to linux 2 days ago)
[06:06] <Palintheus> Dr_willis: the icons are different on the root file manager you open, you can also set a different background color so that it will look drastically different, at least thats what I do
[06:07] <harushimo> some how my update manager how would be able to fix it
[06:07] <harushimo> I know its sudo apt-get install: but the last part I'm not able to get
[06:08] <soldats> Palintheus, doesnt it usually say root at the top anyways
[06:08] <Palintheus> never paid attention
[06:08] <Palintheus> just set a different theme to make absolutely sure
[06:08] <soldats> ahh mine says that
[06:08] <Palintheus> ::shrug::
[06:08] <kakoonia> psycore : try http://wiki.awn-project.org/index.php?title=A_Visual_Install_Guide#Ubuntu
[06:08] <soldats> im not in the same situation but thats how i usually tell its root
[06:08] <psycore> kakoonia: thanks
[06:09] <Palintheus> yes, for the record mine says root
[06:09] <kakoonia> np
[06:09] <Dr_willis> Palintheus,  i see people in here all the time that want root's stuff to have the same theme as their user.:)   i normally set root to have a BRIGHT RED theme.
[06:09] <Palintheus> HA! me too!!
[06:09] <Palintheus> kind says "WARNING"
[06:09] <Palintheus> *kind of
[06:09] <harushimo> fix it
[06:10] <soldats> harushimo, what exactly do you need
[06:11] <harushimo> soldats: how do you uninstall a package
[06:11] <soldats> harushimo, apt-get remove "app"
[06:11] <soldats> apt-get autoremove "app" *******
[06:11] <Boogedy> or use add/remove in the app menu
[06:11] <bryand> can anybody help me with backupPC? I need to redirect /var/lib/backuppc to an external drive.
[06:11] <alejandro> Hello, how do i install tar.gz2 files?
[06:11] <harushimo> soldats: what if it wasn't done through apt-get
[06:11] <soldats> alejandro, you need to compile it manually
[06:12] <soldats> harushimo, doesnt matter
[06:12] <alejandro> soldats: how do i do that?
[06:12] <CyberMad> what is kernel headers?
[06:12] <harushimo> soldats: thanks
[06:12] <soldats> alejandro, unzip the file then untar it and read the README.txt
[06:12] <CyberMad> google said.. i need to install t
[06:13] <sir_Real> I have an external hard drive that I want to run the DOD short wipe on, it is a large HD and will take a few hours, can I do this without logging out of my computer and booting into DBAN or the like?
[06:13] <Grav3Mind> are ubuntu forums blocked here?
[06:13] <Grav3Mind> like..links to the forums
[06:13] <Csaba> whats GTK Splash for?
[06:14] <soldats> dont believe so why?
[06:14] <Grav3Mind> cause they are in #compiz
[06:14] <jayde_drag0n> can someone help me? i spent hours organizing my contacts in pidgin the way i wanted them, but it keeps forgetting them and i have to redo everything over and over again.. how do i make it stay?
[06:14] <Csaba> is it just the boot screems?
[06:14] <nickrud> Grav3Mind no, lots of people link to forum stuff. But read them with care
[06:14] <soldats> jayde_drag0n, it may be a bug
[06:14] <soldats> i have no problem with pidgin so i have no clue sorry
[06:15] <jayde_drag0n> soldats: thanks
[06:15] <jayde_drag0n> Csaba: the splash screen is what appears after you login before your desktop appears, where it loads the stuff
[06:16] <Grav3Mind> well can someone tell me if this is how i should enable compiz
[06:16] <Grav3Mind> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[06:16] <Csaba> ahh so on gutsy a brown screen, cheerz
[06:16] <jayde_drag0n> Csaba: well the background of it can be any color.. and splash screens you can install from gnome-look
[06:17] <Grav3Mind> is that the appropriate way to go about enableing it?
[06:17] <jayde_drag0n> Grav3Mind: if you are on gusty.. compiz is installed by default and you can enable it by going to system>prefrences>appearance
[06:17] <nickrud> Grav3Mind, for a machine that has aiglx enabled, yes.
[06:18] <jayde_drag0n> Grav3Mind:  and under the last tab select normal or anyother option other than off
[06:18] <osxdude> How do I install a cursor theme???
[06:18] <soldats> mouse properties
[06:18] <soldats> ?
[06:18] <Grav3Mind> i want to be able to configure it
[06:18] <Grav3Mind> like the ccsm command doesnt work right now
[06:18] <osxdude> hmmm
[06:18] <nickrud> osxdude, untar it into /usr/share/themes I believe
[06:18] <osxdude> ah
[06:18] <osxdude> ok
[06:19] <Grav3Mind> i have "extra" selected on visual right now
[06:19] <nickrud> osxdude, or ~/.themes if you prefere
[06:19] <osxdude> ok
[06:19] <nickrud> hm, I need to be on ubuntu, brb
[06:19] <Grav3Mind> but i want to be able to use all the extra stuff other than wobbly windows
[06:19] <jayde_drag0n> Grav3Mind: you have to make sure that "advanced desktop effects" is installed.. i'm not sure of the package name at this second.. but you can google it
[06:19] <astro76> !ccsm | Grav3Mind
[06:19] <ubotu> Grav3Mind: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[06:20] <jayde_drag0n> Grav3Mind: thats the one
[06:20] <Grav3Mind> can i do that in add/remove or synap
[06:20] <Grav3Mind> ?
[06:20] <soldats> Grav3Mind, try it it wont hurt
[06:20] <jayde_drag0n> Grav3Mind:  you can or just open terminal and type   sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[06:20] <soldats> Grav3Mind, it may work
[06:21] <Grav3Mind> thanks man
[06:21] <jayde_drag0n> Grav3Mind: girl but yw
[06:21] <soldats> jayde_drag0n, what exactly happens in pidgin
[06:21] <psycore> how to un-ignore a person in xchat?
[06:22] <soldats> psycore, no clue never ignored anyone
[06:22] <Grav3Mind> lol oh sorry thanks my lady friend XD
[06:22] <jayde_drag0n> soldats:  well it defaulty has like 15 groups.. and i only want 2... so i dragged them all into the appropriate groups .... then when i restart it... it ungroups them where i had them and readds the old deleted groups
[06:22] <Invert314> how what's the command to launch the gnome theme changer app?
[06:22] <jayde_drag0n> Grav3Mind:  you are very welcome
[06:22] <Grav3Mind> yay! it works perfectly ^_^
[06:22] <psycore> omg. i accidentally ignored a fren
[06:23] <astro76> psycore, Window > Ignore List...
[06:23] <jayde_drag0n> Invert314: you mean the emerald theme manager or system>prefrences> appearance?
[06:23] <Grav3Mind> oh crap...the cube effect isnt working
[06:23] <Invert314> jayde_drag0n, no
[06:23] <Grav3Mind> any idea why?
[06:23] <Invert314> to change the GTK theme
[06:23] <Grav3Mind> thats th main thing i wanted lol
[06:23] <Invert314> you know the themes for the sidebars in xhcat for example
[06:23] <soldats> jayde_drag0n, mine did that once and i moved them again and it hasnt messed up lately
[06:23] <psycore> astro76: im on xchat. there's no window to click
[06:23] <astro76> psycore, the menu named Window
[06:24] <soldats> window is a drop down menu
[06:24] <Tixer_> Question: I have 2 identical drives. How can I make sure they're both mounted to the same place as previously on bootup?
[06:24] <psycore> none
[06:24] <astro76> psycore, and if you are using xchat-gnome instead of real xchat, I have no idea
[06:24] <nishiishii> alt+w
[06:24] <psycore> astro76: gnome
[06:24] <jayde_drag0n> Invert314:  i don't know about the themes for individual applications.. but to change the entire skin of your computer i can walk you thru both ways
[06:24] <Grav3Mind> what is the "super" key
[06:24] <jayde_drag0n> Invert314: like the menu bars, the windows , the controls etc
[06:24] <Boogedy> the windows or mac key
[06:24] <soldats> windows key i think
[06:24] <Invert314> yes
[06:24] <Grav3Mind> k lol
[06:25] <psycore> Grav3Mind: window key
[06:25] <Invert314> jayde_drag0n, what's the commandline command for that?
[06:25] <Grav3Mind> btw...you guys all rock
[06:25] <avtt> I found themes to make dapper look like OSX hahaha
[06:25] <Grav3Mind> ^_^
[06:25] <Gudmunn> I am running out of this room :) I was put here by the program... yøøæææ
[06:25] <Grav3Mind> xD
[06:25] <Tixer_> how can I make sure that two completely identical drives mount at different locations?
[06:25] <psycore> astro76: im on xchat-gnome.
[06:25] <avtt> see :P http://www.supriyadisw.net/2006/09/ultimate-ubuntu-dapper-look-like-osx
[06:25] <osxdude> nickrud it seems like it's not registering...do I go to the metacity theme prefs, or the mouse prefs
[06:26] <Agent> when am loading a game useing warzone2100 the game crashes, how can i fix it ?
[06:26] <robert__> hi there i am running gusty and have X running but was wondering how to get the snowy effect on the compiz???
[06:26] <jayde_drag0n> Invert314:  those changes are done with only 2 applications that i am aware of... the emerald theme manager .. which uses compiz and puts up a whole theme wit a click.. OR you have to use appearance... and on the first tab select the window look that is close to what you want and click customize..... THERE is where you will skin individual components for the system.. the menu bars, the window bars and the controls
[06:26] <_6StringKng_> yeah, and what happened to the aquarium effect
[06:26] <_6StringKng_> or maybe I'm missing something, I dunno
[06:27] <soldats> mmm eyecandy
[06:27] <jayde_drag0n> Invert314: and you download components from places like gnome-look and untar them into the .themes folder andf .icons
[06:27] <robert__> yeah i'm missing the snowy effect from the compiz
[06:27] <jayde_drag0n> Invert314: the closest i found to something like "windowblinds" for ubuntu is the emerald theme manager
[06:28] <robert__> hi there can i ask you a question?
[06:28] <_6StringKng_> just ask man
[06:28] <CoasterMaster> go ahead and ask
[06:28] <_6StringKng_> dont ask if you can
[06:28] <sir_Real> as to my earlier question about wiping an external drive... apt-get install wipe; man wipe; and wipe -kq /dev/sdb or whichever disk
[06:28] <Invert314> jayde_drag0n, yes, i know how to change my emerald theme. what i need  is the command which opens the customization themer for menus, and sidebars
[06:28]  * CoasterMaster is glad he contributed at least once today
[06:28]  * _6StringKng_ I tired as well
[06:28] <Grav3Mind> jayde how can i install the emerald theme manager?
[06:28] <Invert314> emerald theme manger doesn't allow you to change the menus and sidebars
[06:28] <_6StringKng_> tried*
[06:29]  * nickrud has been away for a while, and is feeling the itch
[06:29] <imbecile> how do i determine my mac address?
[06:29] <Grav3Mind> is there a command just like for compiz?
[06:29] <osxdude> nickrud it seems like it's not registering...do I go to the metacity theme prefs, or the mouse prefs
[06:29] <Agent> yeah one more thing i thought 710 was going to be better then 704, but is the same problem i get so why the upgrade ? "be honest"
[06:29] <CoasterMaster> imbecile, type 'ifconfig' (no quotes) in a terminal
[06:29] <astro76> imbecile, ifconfig, it is the HWaddr
[06:29] <imbecile> CoasterMaster:  thanks
[06:29] <jayde_drag0n> Invert314:  ooooohhhh  i am stil new within ubuntu... but i really think that might be under appearance... under "customize... if its not there .. then i am at a loss
[06:29] <jayde_drag0n> Grav3Mind:  hold on and i'll get that answer for you
[06:29] <Invert314> jayde_drag0n, i know its there under appearance
[06:29] <Invert314> duh
[06:30] <Invert314> i need the commandline command
[06:30] <Grav3Mind> take your time jayde
[06:30] <Invert314> do you know what a commandline is?
[06:30] <CoasterMaster> imbecile, you can also do 'ifconfig | grep HWaddr' (again no quotes) to strip out all the information that isn't a MAC address
[06:30] <Tixer_> guys
[06:30] <jayde_drag0n> Invert314:  that i don't know... i only know how to use it within the gui
[06:30] <imbecile> CoasterMaster:  cool thanks
[06:30] <nickrud> osxdude: I was right, I needed to boot ubuntu :) It goes in /usr/share/icons , sorry
[06:30] <Tixer_> how can I have a drive always mount to a specific point
[06:30] <_6StringKng_> ntfs-config?
[06:30] <sysdrum> imbecile, "ifconfig -a" to view all network cards info
[06:30] <osxdude> ah
[06:30] <osxdude> thanks
[06:30] <Invert314> then jayde_drag0n you are wasting my time
[06:30] <Invert314> sorry
[06:31] <imbecile> thanks all :)
[06:31] <Csaba> whats a better dock, avant or simdock
[06:31] <Agent> avant
[06:31] <Csaba> thx
[06:31] <soldats> sysdrum, you need to edit fstab
[06:31] <psycore> Agent: can I install avant for gutsy on my feisty?
[06:32] <soldats> i think
[06:32] <soldats> oops wrong person sorry
[06:32] <nickrud> Tixer_: you mean so it always has the same name on your desktop?
[06:32] <Tixer_> nickrud:
[06:32] <soldats> Tixer_, edit fstab if your confortable with it
[06:33] <Tixer_> I have 2 exactly identical drives
[06:33] <robert__> ok i installed emerald on gusty but now the title of my windows is missing....i have tried changing things on emerald but there is no change
[06:33] <jayde_drag0n> Grav3Mind: try sudo apt-get install emerald-themes  (bear in mind it took em a couple of trys the first time to get the right command digging thru google)
[06:33] <Tixer_> same type, same enclosure, same stuff
[06:33] <sysdrum> ? fstab?
[06:33] <Tixer_> I need to make sure one always mounts in the same place
[06:33] <robert__> if anybody could help me that would be great
[06:33] <RobNyc> Evolution > Thunderbird yes?
[06:33] <_6StringKng_> sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[06:33] <Tixer_> and another mounts in the other
[06:33] <soldats> sysdrum, sorry i sent it to you by mistake
[06:33] <Invert314> Does anyone know which command to launches the gnome theme manager from a Terminal?
[06:33] <Tixer_> how do I identify the drives though
[06:33] <nickrud> Tixer_: and these are usb drives?
[06:34] <sysdrum> I I was confused I haven't asked anything yet..
[06:34] <_6StringKng_> they ntfs?
[06:34] <sysdrum> it is cool..
[06:34] <Tixer_> they can be anything, I have no data on them yet and they're Linux only
[06:34] <Shadow147> usually usb drives are sdb
[06:34] <soldats> sysdrum, yea sorry i looked up and saw your name and quickly typed it without thinking
[06:34] <Tixer_> yes
[06:34] <Grav3Mind> sorry for everyone including me bugging you jade ^_^
[06:34] <Tixer_> except one is sdb, and one is sdc
[06:35] <soldats> Grav3Mind, thats what were here for
[06:35] <Tixer_> but they'll change, depending on which is mounted first
[06:35] <soldats> Tixer_, you need to give them mount points in fstab
[06:35] <CyberMad> how to search file vboxdrv.ko on / and it's subfolder
[06:35] <Tixer_> I told you, I can't, because they're identical
[06:36] <Tixer_> I need a script that runs, that creates like an alias or something
[06:36] <nickrud> Tixer_: try right clicking the desktop icon, and giving them a specific mount point each. Like 'ThisDrive' and 'ThatDrive'
[06:36] <Tixer_> hmm
[06:36] <Boogedy> w00t, just installed compiz with emerald
[06:36] <nickrud> Tixer_: you could put them into fstab if they are never unplugged
[06:36] <Tixer_> they're never going to be unplugge
[06:36] <jayde_drag0n> Grav3Mind: people are here to help... even newbies when we learn something.. i'm just trying to help out
[06:36] <Tixer_> however
[06:36] <CyberMad> i mean, how to search entire linux directory for that file?
[06:36] <n2diy> how do I clear my terminal window? Clear only clears what I'm viewing, not the whole screen?
[06:36] <Tixer_> They have to go on AFTER the OS is loaded.
[06:36] <Tixer_> not before
[06:37] <soldats> CyberMad, try in terminal "find 'name your looking for'"
[06:37] <soldats> n2diy, clear
[06:37] <Tixer_> so I need to manually turn them on
[06:37] <soldats> n2diy, click reset on the menubar
[06:37] <n2diy> soldats: try again: how do I clear my terminal window? Clear only clears what I'm viewing, not the whole screen?
[06:37] <Grav3Mind> well thanks for letting me ask you a bunch of questions none the less lol. and im still not done XD
[06:38] <n2diy> soldats: reset, where's that?
[06:38] <CyberMad> do you mean "find / vboxdrv.ko"  ?
[06:38] <soldats> click terminal and click clear and reset
[06:38] <nickrud> Tixer_: this should work, but I don't have a spare pluggable to test: unmount both, plug in one, right click the icon, select volume, and give it a distinct name. Then repeat with the next
[06:38] <jayde_drag0n> Invert314: i may have an answer for you but i need to know if the theme manager IS the same exact program as "appearance"
[06:38] <astro76> n2diy, Terminal > Reset and Clear
[06:39] <soldats> CyberMad, find xvo....
[06:39] <jayde_drag0n> Invert314: otherwise i've wasted your reading time again... cuz i just alunched it from terminal
[06:39] <soldats> CyberMad, not so sure though
[06:39] <Grav3Mind> hmm i ran sudo apt-get install emerald
[06:39] <Grav3Mind> then
[06:39] <Grav3Mind> sudo apt-get install emerald-themes
[06:39] <CyberMad> ok
[06:39] <sir_Real> Tixer_, google for luks setup, go through some of the articles looking for how they solve the similar problem.  Each device has a unique hardware signature, even in your situation.  You can then mount the device based on hardware signatures.  you will have to lsusb (if they are usb) or dmesg after connecting each one and record that information
[06:39] <CyberMad> thanks
[06:39] <_6StringKng_> you need emerald theme manger as well
[06:39] <n2diy> soldats: I'm in the terminal, no reset menu, I'm running Dapper.
[06:39] <Invert314> jayde_drag0n, the terminal command is: gnome-appearance-properties
[06:40] <jayde_drag0n> Grav3Mind:  neither of the commands worked?? i will keep looking
[06:40] <soldats> in the terminal the menu is called terminal
[06:40] <Grav3Mind> no the one did
[06:40] <Grav3Mind> sudo apt-get install emerald
[06:40] <n2diy> soldats: Found it, thanks.
[06:40] <soldats> its next to view
[06:40] <Grav3Mind> i got emerald theme manager
[06:40] <_6StringKng_> ah
[06:40] <Grav3Mind> just...no themes
[06:40] <jayde_drag0n> Invert314:  i'm just trying to help.. i'm googling like mad to find the command you are asking for for terminal... trying to be helpful
[06:40] <Tixer> is there any way to have a mount script on each drive?
[06:40] <Grav3Mind> and it wont "fetch" any
[06:40] <sir_Real> Tixer_, google for luks setup, go through some of the articles looking for how they solve the similar problem.  Each device has a unique hardware signature, even in your situation.  You can then mount the device based on hardware signatures.  you will have to lsusb (if they are usb) or dmesg after connecting each one and record that information
[06:40] <jayde_drag0n> Grav3Mind: you have to install them hold on a sec and i'll walk you thru how to get them
[06:41] <Tixer> saying "mount me on say, /media/disk-1/
[06:41] <Invert314> thanks for your help jayde_drag0n
[06:41] <sir_Real> sorry to repost, but i think Tixer dropped out for a sec
[06:41] <Tixer> no
[06:41] <Tixer> added a clone
[06:41] <nickrud> sir_Real: looking through the gconf registry, under system/storage, it seems it tracks with uuid's; that's why I suggest he try
[06:41] <jayde_drag0n> Invert314: hey i'm a newb and i know it..  but trying to help in here helps me learn
[06:41] <Agent> psycore:am checking, your talking about Avant Window Navigator am i correct ?
[06:41] <soldats> jayde_drag0n, if your googling you can also just post the link here
[06:41] <psycore> Agent: yes. thanks :)
[06:42] <Shadix> agent> backup-source
[06:42] <Tixer> is there a simple bash script I can put on each drive?
[06:42] <jayde_drag0n> soldats: well i'm finding forum posts so instead of having him or her read thru the whole thing i was just gunna post the command
[06:42] <psycore> Agent: somebody gave me this link earlier http://wiki.awn-project.org/index.php?title=A_Visual_Install_Guide#Ubuntu
[06:42] <Tixer> so Ubuntu doesn't mount it, but the drive says "mount me in /media/.....
[06:42] <psycore> Agent: i wonder if it will work on feisty
[06:42] <_6StringKng_> sudo apt-get install subversion
[06:42] <_6StringKng_> svn ls https://svn.generation.no/emerald-themes
[06:42] <_6StringKng_> then try fetching the themes again
[06:43] <jayde_drag0n> Grav3Mind: okay first we have to install subversion.. let me get the command for you i think its just svn but lemme check to be sure
[06:43] <soldats> jayde_drag0n, yes thats a really nice thing to do
[06:43] <Grav3Mind> i just got that
[06:43] <Grav3Mind> jayde
[06:43] <Grav3Mind> ^_^
[06:43] <Co> hai
[06:43] <Grav3Mind> i think i figured it out all on my own
[06:43] <Grav3Mind> ^_^
[06:43] <jayde_drag0n> _6StringKng_: HA i just saw that too
[06:44] <jayde_drag0n> _6StringKng_: thanks
[06:44] <soldats> jayde_drag0n, but instead of rushing from page to page to get info may not be the best route for others sometimes they need to read it themselfes
[06:44] <Grav3Mind> i typed https://svn.generation.no/emerald-themes
[06:44] <jayde_drag0n> soldats:  okee dokee
[06:44] <Grav3Mind> and it said i needed to run sudo apt-get install subversion first
[06:44] <Grav3Mind> so i did
[06:44] <n2diy> Where does firestarter hide after a download? I have it running here, but want to move it to my test box. I can't find a .deb, or a .tar, or .gz for it? Where did it go?
[06:45] <Grav3Mind> hey jade...lol i have one more thing XD
[06:45] <Grav3Mind> *jayde
[06:45] <nickrud> n2diy: /var/cache/apt/archives ?
[06:45] <Grav3Mind> the cube effect isnt working in compiz and i have no idea why
[06:45] <Grav3Mind> the cube desktop switch that is
[06:46] <SuperQ> random question
[06:46] <n2diy> nickrud: no, nothing show up there!?
[06:46] <nickrud> n2diy: if you have it installed, but there's no deb there, you've run afoul of the ubuntu cache policy
[06:46] <SuperQ> has anyone setup unicode domain names with bind9?
[06:47] <DM|> Has anyone heard anything good about UbuntuTweak?
[06:47] <nickrud> n2diy: ubuntu doesn't let the cache get bigger than 500mb, or older than 30 days, iirc. The rules are in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20archve
[06:47] <nickrud> s/20archve/20archive/
[06:47] <n2diy> nickrud: damn! Could it be I installed it after a download, and then deleted the .deb, and fouled things up?
[06:47] <nickrud> n2diy: not your fault
[06:48] <soldats> jayde_drag0n, i didnt mean to be a jerk but i like to enforce the lurk more method because learning how things work rather than just commands is a lot more helpful in the long run
[06:48] <bthornton> I'm trying to edit "Users and Groups" as an administrative user in Gutsy, but I get a window that says "The configuration could not be loaded: You are not allowed to access the system configuration."
[06:48] <[chr0n0s]> hi can anyone help me with this --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46313/ (the problem is about setting up timeout's at NAT)
[06:48] <jayde_drag0n> Invert314: hey i'm not finding a thing other than typing "gnome-theme-manager" but i'm fairly sure thats not right because it doesn't launch anything on my computer... unless i don't have it installed... soo i'm sorry i couldn't find it for yu but i'll keep looking
[06:48] <bthornton> any ideas?  the current user is a member of the "admin" group
[06:48] <jayde_drag0n> soldats: explain further??
[06:48] <Invert314> jayde_drag0n, i already found the command i was looking for
[06:48] <nickrud> jayde_drag0n: gnome-appearance-properties
[06:49] <Invert314> jayde_drag0n, i said: the terminal command i'm looking for is: gnome-appearance-properties
[06:49] <Invert314> you don't know what a command line is, do you?
[06:49] <jayde_drag0n> oh... it was what i found earlier
[06:49] <jayde_drag0n> i misunderstood you saying it to me that i got it wrong
[06:49] <jayde_drag0n> yeay me!!
[06:49] <Grav3Mind> lol
[06:49] <nickrud> :)
[06:49] <soldats> jayde_drag0n, a lot of times on forums people give good hints as to why certain commands act the way tey do and learning about a certain distro and its install methods will help in the future if problems arise
[06:50] <n2diy> nickrud: Of course not! But, how do I get the firestarter package to my test box, which can't access the internet. Once I have the firestarter package here, I can get it to the test box via the LAN, or USB drive, but I can't locate the package!?
[06:50] <echosystm> guys, i get acpi errors when my computer is booting up. everything works fine, i can shut down and suspend, but the errors are still there.
[06:50] <soldats> jayde_drag0n, as in knowing how apt-get works and where the downloads come from
[06:50] <echosystm> does anyone have any ideas how i can stop the errors?
[06:50] <nickrud> n2diy: sudo aptitude reinstall firestarter will redownload it
[06:51] <jayde_drag0n> soldats: allrighty!  yah i've only sorta figured those out
[06:51] <echosystm> the BIOS of my motherboard doesnt seem to allow me to turn acpi off (no option)
[06:51] <Grav3Mind> well i have 2 problems left guys. 1. Emerald is installed and what not and themes are there but none of them are spplying and 2. the desktop cube switch thing wont work
[06:51] <Grav3Mind> *applying
[06:51] <jayde_drag0n> soldats: but i forget everytime i go to put in a new repository.. and have to look it up again.. one day i will memorize it LOL
[06:51] <n2diy> nickrud: Did that, no package showing, but.... let me try an updatedb, and see if I can find it then, thanks.
[06:52] <nickrud> n2diy: hm, it goes into /var/cache/apt/archive , if it actually got downloaded (you'd see that) that's where it'll be
[06:52] <Grav3Mind> can anyone help me with these last 2 problems?
[06:52] <nickrud> n2diy: erm, archives at the end of that path, that is
[06:52] <jayde_drag0n> Grav3Mind:  okay when i installed and got everything working it was done out of order... and somewhere you have to tell it to stop using metacity for themeing and use compiz.. but for the life of me i don't remember where it was
[06:53] <Grav3Mind> ah i know how to do that ^_^
[06:53] <n2diy> nickrud: running updatedb now, hopefully this will solve it.
[06:53]  * nickrud thinks compiz is a waste of cycles (he has an ati)
[06:53] <soldats> yes
[06:53] <Grav3Mind> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[06:53] <DM|> nickrud ATI is a waste of cycles
[06:53] <Grav3Mind> its there
[06:53] <nickrud> DM|: lol
[06:53] <Grav3Mind> alt F2 compiz --replace
[06:53] <Grav3Mind> ta da ^_^
[06:54] <nickrud> Grav3Mind: I used alt-f2 compiz --replace && emerald --replace
[06:54] <barata> hallo list, when beryl runs, how to kill the mouse from turning to the next desktop anytime it touches the edge?
[06:54] <n2diy> nickrud: got it, updatedb did the trick.
[06:54] <WEL> shit
[06:54]  * nickrud wonders when this became #compiz
[06:54] <soldats> barata, there should be a setting for it did you search for it
[06:54] <WEL> what do you think
[06:55] <Grav3Mind> compiz --replace is all you need i believe cause as soon as i did that
[06:55] <WEL> no!
[06:55] <barata> for sure there is a switch for it and where is it?
[06:55] <Grav3Mind> emerald is now working
[06:55] <nickrud> !language | WEL
[06:55] <ubotu> WEL: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[06:55] <jayde_drag0n> yeay for pretty computers!!!
[06:55] <WEL> i don't know
[06:55] <Grav3Mind> woooo!
[06:55] <nickrud> Grav3Mind: I used it last before the final release, must be doing a better job now
[06:56]  * Grav3Mind agrees with jayde
[06:56] <psycore> how to uninstall kiba dock?
[06:56] <Grav3Mind> and yeah im guessin so lol nick
[06:56] <Shadix> help
[06:56] <soldats> apt-get autoremove kiba
[06:56] <Shadix> I can't install ET
[06:56] <Grav3Mind> i love this 7.10
[06:56] <Shadix> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46314/
[06:56] <nickrud> psycore: if you compiled it, hoping you kept the working dir and sudo make uninstall is well written
[06:56] <barata> you are all just useless newbies ... answering question with "there is a manual for that"
[06:56] <barata> here is the answer! barata, disable edge flip pointer in rotate cube plugin
[06:56] <barata> bye all
[06:57] <Shadix> !noob
[06:57] <ubotu> Acronyms or statements like  noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[06:57] <Grav3Mind> ^_^
[06:57] <Grav3Mind> so neither is he
[06:57] <soldats> barnie, why because most answers to questions are easily answered if you read how the programs work
[06:57] <jayde_drag0n> that was awesome
[06:57] <Shadix> can anyone help with this install?
[06:58] <bthornton> is it possible to get the "Users and Groups" utility to display all users and groups?
[06:58] <bthornton> I think it only displays UIDs/GIDs above a certain number
[06:58] <Grav3Mind> is it possible to make the top and bottom bars on the ubuntu desktop look different? i suppose like... a theme?
[06:58] <Shadix> yep
[06:58] <Shadix> sec
[06:58] <Grav3Mind> cause i really want a different look
[06:58] <Shadix> http://gnome-look.org/
[06:59] <Grav3Mind> oh wow
[06:59] <nickrud> Grav3Mind: no, a panel is a panel
[06:59] <Shadix> nickrud, lol shutup lol
[06:59] <nickrud> Shadix: heck, that's why all those people are using the docks now :)
[06:59] <gandhii> try rightgrav: try right clicking on it and selecting "properties" for starters
[06:59] <Shadix> heh
[06:59] <gandhii> umm.. let me try that again...
[07:00] <jayde_drag0n> Grav3Mind:  the individual controls for the bars are in appearance .. and then choosing customize  and you can also control the colors like tranparency by yah what ganhdii said
[07:00] <gandhii> grav: try right clicking on it and selecting "properties" for starters
[07:00] <bthornton> how do I add a user to a group?  I know how to use "usermod" generally, but I don't want to find all of the groups the user is in, then create a new list with all of the previous groups + the new group...
[07:00] <WEL> what is next?
[07:00] <tritium> bthornton: adduser <user> <group>, or use gui tools
[07:01] <WEL> What is ubuntu?
[07:01] <astro76> !ubuntu | WEL
[07:01] <ubotu> WEL: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[07:01] <soldats> WEL, i loled
[07:01] <bthornton> tritium: sweeeet.  thanks :)
[07:01] <jayde_drag0n> Grav3Mind:  with gnome look.. find the gtk2.0 theme you like.. (i've yet to figure out which ones are for the bars and not the windows... i still randomly install things lol) but then untar them into .themes i believe and when you open apparance and goto customize it is the ...controls tab that themes the bars   and your emerald manager will theme the window borders
[07:01] <Ayabara> I run compiz on gutsy and the title bars of my application windows are black. No matter what theme I choose in 'Appearance', it stays black. Help...
[07:01] <WEL> next,how is sex?
[07:02] <astro76> !ot | WEL
[07:02] <ubotu> WEL: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:02] <bthornton> and yet... I'm still getting "Permission denied" from TVTime?  yet my current user is a member of "video"
[07:02] <Grav3Mind> ok ill try that jayde
[07:02] <nickrud> bthornton: you have to log out and back in for a new group membership to be recognized
[07:02] <bthornton> ahh
[07:02] <bthornton> thanks
[07:03] <JimTheC> alright any alsa experts out there?
[07:04] <soldats> maybe
[07:04] <soldats> but probly not
[07:04] <JimTheC> I have a USB sound card
[07:04]  * nickrud gets popcorn, hoping for a new red man
[07:04] <sysdrum> sorta why?
[07:04] <JimTheC> I plug it in and can identify it fine
[07:04] <JimTheC> if I set it as default under my sound prefs it works
[07:05] <FluxD> !ccsm
[07:05] <JimTheC> but I tried to adjust the volume using the hot keys on my keyboard
[07:05] <ubotu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[07:05] <JimTheC> and the volume level dropped real loq
[07:05] <JimTheC> low*
[07:05] <jayde_drag0n> Grav3Mind: with the limited knowledge i have i managed to do this http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/jayde_dragon/Screenshot-2.png    not fantastic but it amuses me.... i used a gtk theme for the application bar and then used the colors tab to set the font colors etc to make thigns readable and pretty
[07:05] <JimTheC> pressing the volume up button causes the volume to jump up AND down
[07:06] <JimTheC> but never above 20% or so
[07:06] <sysdrum> where you in an adio app at the time?
[07:06] <Grav3Mind> i like the bars ^_^
[07:06] <JimTheC> yeah totem
[07:07] <soldats> jayde_drag0n, its a nice look congrats
[07:07] <Grav3Mind> how hard is it to use compiz fuzion
[07:07] <jayde_drag0n> Grav3Mind: well i fully used tranparency under the individual properties for the bars... and i used "moomex" and colored it to get the slick black look
[07:07] <JimTheC> anyone help on my alsa issues?
[07:07] <sysdrum> hmm... JimTheC' have you tried installing another app like vlc? and seen if it does the same activity?
[07:08] <JimTheC> yup
[07:08] <JimTheC> its the same across apps
[07:08] <JimTheC> the on screen volume display (the pop up hotkey one) shows really low volume
[07:08] <sysdrum> okay what is the model of the keyboard?
[07:08] <soldats> JimTheC, most likely it has to do with the key setup you have you may need to do "a lot" of work to fix it
[07:08] <JimTheC> but wont increase
[07:08] <jayde_drag0n> soldats: thanks it took me FOREVER to find the icons i wanted but i'm really happy with it... i can't fully do it up the way i want unless i learn to make them myself.. but i'm happy with my current result
[07:08] <soldats> JimTheC, id suggest do it with the mouse
[07:08] <JimTheC> volume keys work great using onboard sound
[07:09] <soldats> jayde_drag0n, you can make your own icons using "the gimp"
[07:09] <Grav3Mind> does anyone know anything about using or installing compiz fuzion
[07:09] <nickrud> jayde_drag0n: or inkscape, you can do some really nice svg icons with that. Scales perfectly
[07:10] <sysdrum> JimTheC, what model is the usb sound card?
[07:10] <JimTheC> Trends UD-10
[07:10] <jayde_drag0n> soldats: i like my icons.. but i wanna make the mouse pointers.. but me and gimp will be about as effective as me with a paper and pencil... 4 yr old adhd child on crack with a broken crayon
[07:10] <Agent> psycore:i was looking and looking, i found a error when download from there website that is why the file is missing
[07:10] <soldats> nickrud, inkscape is amazing but people fray away unless they know about vectors
[07:10] <soldats> jayde_drag0n, lol
[07:10] <psycore> Agent: its ok :)
[07:10] <nickrud> soldats: it's gotta be simple, I can use it :)
[07:11] <jayde_drag0n> aka.. i can't draw :-P
[07:11] <JimTheC> hmm
[07:11] <soldats> nickrud, yea i guess but its an incredibly powerful program
[07:12] <sysdrum> JimTheC, are you using an external dac?
[07:12] <nickrud> jayde_drag0n: thats why I used inkscape, as soldats says it's incredibly powerful, but you can use it to make simple shapes and layer them to get your effect
[07:12] <milestone> are there any sources to install kde4 with gutsy?
[07:12] <Agent> psycore:is your luckying day i found it and am trying it right now
[07:13] <soldats> nickrud, its just the fact that most people dont know about vectors and the gimp ca do layers as well and is easier for most people to learn
[07:13] <psycore> Agent: great!
[07:13] <JimTheC> yup external dac
[07:13] <jayde_drag0n> nickrud: lol you have no idea how badly i can draw with a computer... i tried to make the icon i wanted so that only the character was there and not a white block around it... but i made aparantly 15 layers.. and it still wouldn't be "clear" i kept cutting.. and going to transparancy.. and the pieces wouldn't go away LOL
[07:13] <Grav3Mind> incase anyone wants to try and install compiz fusion i found an awesome tut http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-Compiz-Fusion-on-Ubuntu-58113.shtml
[07:14] <Grav3Mind> im going to try it
[07:14] <tritium> Grav3Mind: it's already installed in 7.10
[07:14] <nickrud> soldats: true that, I guess. I'm not a graphics artist, it was easier to just make squares and circles and triangles with inkscape, then stretch them to make stuff
[07:14] <JimTheC> I just tried it again and it is behaving so weird
[07:14] <nickrud> jayde_drag0n: oh, yes, I can relate :)
[07:15] <JimTheC> I changed the sound vol tasktray thing over to the USB Dac
[07:15] <Grav3Mind> compiz fuzion?
[07:15] <tritium> Grav3Mind: yes
[07:15] <nickrud> jayde_drag0n: the trick to that is to add an alpha channel to the layers, that's what makes it transparent
[07:15] <JimTheC> and when I adjust the volume via mouse the panel icon immediately says its muted
[07:15] <Grav3Mind> really!!!???
[07:15] <soldats> nickrud, i do a lot of graphic editing
[07:15] <Grav3Mind> holy crap
[07:15] <Grav3Mind> lol
[07:15] <JimTheC> even tho it isnt
[07:15] <jayde_drag0n> nickrud: lmao yeay someone can relate! i get an a for effort... i kept trying... 15 layers worth... but i tried :-)
[07:15] <Grav3Mind> i guess i just dont know what im doing
[07:16] <Agent> pstcore:it works
[07:16] <nickrud> soldats: do you do gratis for non-profits ;)
[07:16] <sysdrum> JimTheC, can you use oss with it?
[07:16] <soldats> nickrud, yea as well for my own feeling of satisfaction
[07:16] <Agent> psycore:is works
[07:16] <JimTheC> havent tried
[07:16] <JimTheC> sysdrum: how would I go about that?
[07:17] <JimTheC> the killer is it worked fine - I was using it without issues
[07:17] <Agent> this round i won!
[07:17] <sysdrum> JimTheC : are you using stardad ubuntu? or a flavor?
[07:17] <JimTheC> jsut adjusting voulme either per app or using the mouse on the tray icon
[07:17] <JimTheC> just straight up 7.10
[07:18] <psycore> Agent: u sure? lemme try then, but i don't know how to uninstall my kiba dock :P
[07:18] <sysdrum> right click the tray icon>click prefences> slect device and track
[07:19] <sysdrum> JimTheC: you should have 4 choices
[07:19] <JimTheC> yeah thats what I was doing
[07:20] <JimTheC> and not 4 choices
[07:20] <Invert314> Where do I go to make a feature request?
[07:20] <JimTheC> jsut PCM
[07:20] <allenc> Hi, my sound was working fine in Ubuntu and now it doesn't.  How do I re-install sound drivers?
[07:20] <JimTheC> unless you mena for mixers
[07:20] <omar_> guys, in the page where users report bugs, where is the solution for them?
[07:20] <astro76> !bugs | Invert314
[07:20] <ubotu> Invert314: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[07:20] <daya> any alternative to ipscan in linux
[07:20] <sysdrum> JimTheC: okay... let me see... what I can find be right back
[07:21] <Invert314> ty astro76
[07:21] <JimTheC> I have USB Audio Dac (Alsa Mixer), HDA Nvidia(ALsa), also Realtek...etc(OSS)
[07:21] <soldats> allenc, when and how did this happen
[07:21] <Invert314> ty ubotu
[07:21] <JimTheC> another hint: if I reboot and leave it alone it seems fine
[07:21] <allenc> soldats: tonight.  I don't know if it was related to the update that ubuntu installed or not.