[17:21] <FixUbuntu> Whop: uhm, not sure because i think those are run *after* you're past the login screen
[17:21] <HiddenDjinn> question, when setting ptr record, do you set the host or the fqdn?
[17:21] <Whop> FixUbuntu : Yeah, I think you're right. Nothing showed up. So I'll just post to the ubuntu forums and cross my fingers :)
[17:22] <ct529> I formatted a disk using GPT for installing Ubuntu. Once I installed Ubuntu 13.10 64 bit, I left one 80GB partition for emergencies. Now, I need to intall MS Windows 7 for a short while to run a model, and when I try to install it in the 80GB partition it says that I cannot install MS Windows on a GPT disk .... do I have to reformat everything and loose my installtion or is there an alternative? Anyone who did something similar?
[17:23] <Shinobi> ikonia: I have an old partition starting on block 1, and I need to fix that partition table.
[17:23] <Shinobi> Any way to manually adjust the partition table?
[17:24] <XLV> Shinobi fdisk, parted etc
[17:26] <Shinobi> XLV: I can't start a partition a sector 1, is there an option for this?
[17:27] <Shinobi> I don't recall this being an issue before
[17:29] <zykotick9> Shinobi: does it want to start at 2048?  if so, that's "normal" (though, SOME of my drives do start at 1).
[17:30] <Shinobi> zykotick9: It's an old drive with an old partition setup. The first part is starts on block 1. I have to reset the part table, but fdisk is forcing a start on 2048. I'm checking out parted now.
[17:31] <zykotick9> Shinobi: fyi, fdisk is the WORST choice for partitioning (at least according to "man fdisk")
[17:34] <ct529> Shinobi: you cna use gdisk, it is pretty good
[17:34] <sips> hello all.. :-)
[17:39] <lachitha> hi, im using ubuntu 13.10, in my network manger, mobile broadband devices detected. bt cannot connect to Internet. hence i have to use like sakis3g software. can you help me to solve this
[17:40] <whoever> hi all, i need some help, is there a way to get flash to stay full screen on a dual monitor display when the monitor does not have focus, i have trid to exit with ghex edit, it worked befor for a few days but since package update quite working, have tried the flash maximize plugin but  is not the esiest way to get out of full screen when the flash player has been maximized . I am on 12.04. can someon assist
[17:40] <nvs> how can i uninstall programs in ubuntu?
[17:40] <nvs> where is the control panel?
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: use software-center
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: why would you need control panel?
[17:41] <whoever> nvs: the left size that big thingg down the side , look for software center
[17:42] <whoever> nvs: the icon looks like a shopping bag
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> Whoever: what browser are you using?
[17:42] <whoever> ActionParsnip: ff
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> Whoever: is it the same in Chrome?
[17:42] <whoever> nvs: did that solve it for you
[17:43] <michael_87> ok I ran into a minor announce. I can't get autocorrect to work in libre office. please helpt
[17:43] <nvs> yes thanks im looking there
[17:43] <whoever> ActionParsnip: no crome doesn't use the _NET_ACTIVE_WINDOw arg
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: or search in Dash.  Its part of the human condition
[17:44] <whoever> nvs: you mean win-bloz :-)
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: i find running a desktop environment a waste and use only OpenBox as standalone window manager
[17:45] <nvs> never heard of it
[17:45] <MonkeyDust> ActionParsnip  you're a geek
[17:46] <nvs> lol
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: i like stability
[17:46] <nvs> i see some cool picts of it thought
[17:46] <michael_87> nvs, unity is very different from windows. there is a hell alot more customization then windows and the unity tool bar is amazing. and the window snap in unity is epic. real downer is its a pain to get pc games that was made specificly for windows to run as well on it. so I dualbooted. still though. windows 7 was probably the only good os microsoft ever made
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: do some research on it. Youll see :-)
[17:46] <whoever> ActionParsnip: i think he's new to the whol !m$ experience
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> Michael_87: i hate that snap windows thing in any OS.  OpenBox and FluBox development is much more active and i have fewer issues
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: its still Ubuntu
[17:49] <nvs> like ubuntu without crashes? ubuntu tends to work well until it goes to hell and you have to reinstall everything. at least thats my eperience
[17:49] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: i gotta question FB's "active" development status ;)
[17:50] <lachitha> my mobile broadband not working in ubuntu 13.10
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: https://db.tt/wv3FcIag fun
[17:50] <michael_87> anyone know how to activate libreoffices autocorrect. pain in the ass
[17:51] <nvs> it has some cool skins
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> Lachitha: if you run: lsusb ,use the 8 character hex id to find guides
[17:51] <whoever> nvs: it is still ubuntu, and linux , the only difference is that withe linux and unix you can change the DE or WM  and it is still linux , you just changing how your desktop looks
[17:52] <nvs> so its an ubuntu program?
[17:52] <ct529> I need help install Windows 7 alongside Ubuntu 13.10 pereinstalled. I formatted a disk using GPT for installing Ubuntu. Once I installed Ubuntu 13.10 64 bit, I left one 80GB partition for emergencies. Now, I need to intall MS Windows 7 for a short while to run a model, and when I try to install it in the 80GB partition it says that I cannot install MS Windows on a GPT disk .... do I have to reformat everything and loose my installtion or
[17:52] <ct529>  is there an alternative? Anyone who did something similar?
[17:52] <lachitha> ActionParsnip, actually friend network manger was detecting my usb dongle, bt can't connect with that
[17:53] <whoever> nvs: no , it is linux, here is what you are failing to see
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> Zykotick9: fluxbox 3.5.1 was released in Feb 2013 :-)
[17:53] <grex25> Is there any one-liner for installing .deb files from a known url? (no .deb file afterwards)
[17:53] <nvs> so its a  linux os
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: its a window manager, you will probably be using (crappy) compiz for all the eye candy and wobby windows
[17:54] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: hummmm, my bad then ;)  i didn't think they'd updated in a LONG time, i was wrong.
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: its not a separate OS.
[17:54] <whoever> nvs: ubuntu, kubuntu, archlinux , gentoo , etc... are all linux distros and they all can use the same software , just the only difference you may see is the extention of the file
[17:54] <nvs> so i can put this on my ubuntu? and make it look pretty like that?
[17:54] <nvs> ive found some fantastic skins on that
[17:54] <AlexLibman> I have a laptop with a broken left pointer button that keeps clickin* by itself.  I've been tryin* to fi*ure out a way to map the caps lock to the left mouse button and disable the real mouse button.
[17:55] <therazr> nvs: You can get many ideas from customization on the Internet, there are plenty of artwork pages :)
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: if you want, sure
[17:55] <lachitha> ActionParsnip, can you do something for my problem
[17:55] <MonkeyDust> nvs  on what did ubuntu crash?
[17:56] <AlexLibman> Found lots of confusin* instructions via *oo*le, which accomplished nothin* except make a letter on my keyboard not work, which I replace with a star in this conversation...
[17:56] <whoever> nvs: depending what skins you have you may have a problem when you do an upgrade as to wheathr the skin still works without repeating previouse steps you did to get it working in the first place
[17:56] <nvs> mostly after installing lenses
[17:56] <MonkeyDust> oh, lenses..
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> Lachitha: all i suggest is use the 8 charcter id. You'll find guides
[17:56] <nvs> then graphic card issues with my ati 4something
[17:57] <nvs> mostly lenses to be honest
[17:57] <MonkeyDust> nvs  i guess lenses are the most hated part of ubuntu
[17:57] <nvs> theyre god damn usefull
[17:57] <geirha> grex25: dpkg -i <(curl -s http://....deb)  might work
[17:57] <nvs> very clever idea if only it worked and they made lenses on everything
[17:58] <grex25> geirha: I will try, ty
[17:58] <geirha> grex25: Ah no, I tested it, it apparently needs to seek in the file, so you really need a file on disk
[17:59] <grex25> any chance with  dpkg - i  | wget .... ?
[17:59] <geirha> grex25: No, a pipe is not seekable either
[17:59] <XLV> Shinobi uefi motherboard?
[18:00] <XLV> Shinobi uefi needs a small partition in the start of hdd for its needs
[18:00] <geirha> grex25: If you download it to /tmp, you don't have to worry about removing it afterwards, since /tmp gets wiped during boot anyway
[18:00] <grex25> geirha: then the long  3 line way =)
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> Nvs if you have a radeon 4xxx gpu you will need the legacy ppa for the driver
[18:00] <funch> how can i grep->> grep "string from file for search" filename, dont have graphics nor copypaste
[18:01] <grex25> geirha: yep, so 2
[18:01] <geirha> grex25: Well, you can have more than one command on a line
[18:01] <grex25> geirha: wget a.deb; dpkg -i a.deb
[18:02] <lachitha> cannot connect with mobile broad band
[18:03] <grex25> geirha: does writing/reading fromto /tmp need root?
[18:03] <geirha> grex25: no
[18:03] <geirha> grex25: or write a custom command. E.g.  install() { local dir=$(mktemp -d); wget -O "$dir/f.deb" "$1" && sudo dpkg -i "$dir/f.deb"; rm -rf "$dir"; };
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> Lachitha: did you try my suggestion?
[18:04] <lachitha> im new to ubuntu. can u clearly mention that
[18:05] <therazr> lachitha: When you plug your MB pen it should pop in the network applet, in order to configure it
[18:05] <geirha> grex25: then  install http://url/foo.deb    though install is probably not the best name, since there's a common command named install already, but maybe dpkgi
[18:06] <grex25> geirha: callling  dpkgi(http://abcd/a.deb) ?
[18:06] <OerHeks> lachitha, " network manger was detecting my usb dongle, bt can't connect with that"  > backtrack ?
[18:06] <TomAstro> Ok folks,  I have been in the ALSA irc and the PulseAudio irc and apparently they point the finger at each other when it comes down to this HDMI issue having no output or not being listed in either audio package.  My audio worked fine until I did a clean install of Ubuntu 13.10 and now there are issues with no HDMI out.  To me one or the other or both audio packages are not working with 13.10.  So where does the end user go from
[18:06] <TomAstro>  here????
[18:06] <geirha> grex25: No, a function in bash defines a new command, so you "call" it just like you run other commands.  cmdname arg1 arg2 ...
[18:06] <Bauer1> my ubuntu 13.10 is not mounting my Android phone... Windows does mount it, how can I diagnose why?
[18:07] <dox> I am getting the error "unable to locate package Apache2" on 11.04- does a apt-get update resolve this?
[18:08] <OerHeks> dox 11.04 is EOL you might want to upgrade to a supported version
[18:08] <dox> yeah, FOG works better on 11.04 apparently
[18:08] <theadmin> dox: 11.04 is no longer supported. The repositories have been taken down by now, you won't be able to use APT.
[18:08] <dox> ill give it a whirl on 13 anyways
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> Lachitha: if you run 'lsusb' in a terminal you will see an 8 character hex ID. Use it to find guides. Like I said when you first asked, so I know you didnt follow advice given
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> Tomastro: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[18:11] <TomAstro> Hi Action,  Haven tried that yet hang on.  Thanks for replying
[18:11] <nvs> everything is in its olderst version in the software center
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> Bauer1: if you instal openssh-server you can use andftp and transfer files using sftp over wifi easily :-)
[18:11] <nvs> how can i easily get the newest versions of programs?
[18:11] <whoever> ActionParsnip: i am still having the same problem in chome
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: why do you need newer versions? What packages are 'old'?
[18:12] <nvs> eclipse, netbeans, ajunta
[18:12] <nvs> why do i need the older versions and not the newer ones?
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: what are in the newer versions that you need so badly?
[18:12] <whoever> ActionParsnip: if  i make the video full screen , then navigate away from the video the video will go back to the default size
[18:13] <theadmin> nvs: Ubuntu is stable. They don't update packages to the latest versions just because they are there, they use versions which are tested and work well with this specific version of Ubuntu. You can look for PPAs if you wish.
[18:13] <whoever> ActionParsnip: and i am using the chrome flash extention
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> Whoever: could try minitube as a workaround
[18:13] <nvs> so the safest place to get things is the software center?
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: yes
[18:13] <theadmin> nvs: But those are not officially supported, may break your system or just not work
[18:13] <theadmin> nvs: Certainly, the software in the Centre is tested by Ubuntu developers after all
[18:13] <whoever> nvs: the newest is bleeding edge and may or maynot have bugs
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: what is in the newer versions of those applications that you need so badly?
[18:13] <nvs> so maybe thats the reason i had so many crashes in the past
[18:14] <nvs> along with some untested lenses maybe
[18:14] <whoever> ActionParsnip: is that an ext or a www
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> Whoever: its a standalone youtube player, doesnt need flash :-)
[18:14] <TomAstro> That's a new one for me.  Well it apparently uploaded info to Alsa
[18:14] <TomAstro> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=ecbcde4ed5874b18b8c18ea54d85ce7033287134
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: would you kindly answer my simple question.
[18:15] <whoever> ActionParsnip: thx
[18:15] <whoever> will give it a shot
[18:15] <nvs> ActionParsnip, why would you want the older version of everything?
[18:15] <nvs> if you could have something old and something new what would you choose?
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: because its tried and tested and works and is solid
[18:15] <nvs> of course because it may contain new features and solve older problems of the program
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: i se you are one of those "newer is better" fools
[18:16] <FixUbuntu> nvs: also, new bugs and regressions
[18:16] <whoever> ActionParsnip: may i pm you ?
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: but for your needs, the newer version may not offer you anything at all
[18:16] <minimec> nvs: Replace 'old and 'new' with 'windows 7' and 'windows 8'. What would you choose ;)
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> Whoever: sure
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: but all you see is a version number which is a bogus policy
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: if the version you have does what you need, why fix it?
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: makes no sense
[18:17] <nvs> because i dont have it on the first place
[18:17] <nvs> and you dont make sense
[18:17] <TomAstro> Action Here is a paste bin of the info also
[18:17] <TomAstro> http://pastebin.com/Mwhwvwxw
[18:17] <nvs> afterall you should stick with an old os that is the safest of all
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: then try testing it, then see if the version is too old.
[18:17] <nvs> with such a logic
[18:18] <nvs> software is meant to be constantly updated, renew etc
[18:18] <Bauer1> ActionParsnip: lol, that is a fast workaround, thanks :) installing...
[18:18] <nvs> why stick with the old ones?
[18:18] <yeyeman> unity panel stopped working, what should I do?
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: it makes absolute sense. The version from a year ago does exactly what I need but there is a 'new' version so I MUST upgrade. Is that how you think?
[18:19] <TomAstro> NVS   imo   If it ain't brok don't fixit...   lol
[18:19] <nvs> of course not
[18:19] <nvs> you check if it has features that you like
[18:19] <nvs> or its a useless one like the new ubuntu 13.10 that contain no new cool features
[18:19] <nvs> and eye candy
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: but you just said the versions are old, which may be true, but what Im saying is the version may do exactly what you need, thus mooting the version number
[18:20] <nvs> yeah sure thing
[18:20] <nvs> but if you dont upgrade youre missing the fun of it and the progress that goes with it
[18:21] <nvs> all updates are there for a reason
[18:21] <whoever> nvs: the feature are more of seamless integrateion betwween tablet/desctop/notbook , but your right there are no features that you will notice
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: so 'old' is irelevant, so critisizing it is dumb without testing.
[18:21] <therazr> ActionParsnip: On the other hand, there shouldn't be anything wrong with using latest versions of most daily use software imho
[18:21] <whoever> ActionParsnip: you have been pm'd
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: the updates may nit affect you
[18:22] <nvs> you can choose i agree with what you said that you could check the feautres, but not to stick with the old stuff
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: if it works, why employ effort to fix what isnt broken
[18:22] <zykotick9> therazr: perhaps you unfamiliar with dependencies...
[18:22] <nvs> and sometimes updates may not contain eye candy but contain system stability improvements
[18:22] <MonkeyDust> therazr  not quite... did you see !latest factoid?
[18:22] <zykotick9> !latest
[18:22] <nvs> and thats even better
[18:22] <OerHeks> nvs build packages yourself if you really want the latest, and do the debugging too.
[18:22] <DrDittersdorf> Hi. How can I create a Desktop launcher that will open terminal and immediately run another program ?
[18:23] <DrDittersdorf> (in unity)
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: excessive eyecandy is distracting and imposes higher systen requirements.
[18:23] <theadmin> DrDittersdorf: gnome-terminal -e 'command'
[18:23] <theadmin> DrDittersdorf: ...is the command. Create the launcher as usual.
[18:23] <nvs> sure thing but as i said. software is to be constantly updated
[18:23] <nvs> its never good enough
[18:23] <therazr> MonkeyDust zykotick9 Actually I wasn't opposing to the use of PPAs, as for the main, official repos, they are good as they are now imho
[18:23] <nvs> its never stable enough, never clever enough, never pretty enough
[18:24] <DrDittersdorf> theadmin: thanks. I don't have create launcher on right click ...
[18:24] <DrDittersdorf> It's Unity
[18:24] <whoever> nvs:  i think your are too new to the linux experience to be makeing some of the statements that you are, but  at least your learning
[18:24] <TomAstro> Action:  still reading my info here.  That is a pretty helpful script.
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: it is updated, but packages with significant issues and gains will be attended more than redundant eye candy and simply because a new version is out
[18:24] <MonkeyDust> therazr  yes, but ppas's can from anyone anywhere, without being screened or controlled
[18:24] <MonkeyDust> can come*
[18:25] <DrDittersdorf> theadmin: what i'm asking is actually how to create a launcher... I know in gnome it's easy
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: ubuntu packaging doesnt work like that
[18:25] <theadmin> DrDittersdorf: Well, you can create a .desktop files as follows: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6389499/
[18:25] <wilee-nilee> nothing like a projection to really lead to disappointment
[18:26] <therazr> MonkeyDust: I know that, but I try to stay to "trusted" PPAs, from known devs or like that. And if I need a newer version of a software, I don't see why wouldn't I use them
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> Drdittersdorf: if you copy one of the files in ~/.configure/autostart and edit it, you can make one as you desire
[18:26] <DrDittersdorf> ActionParsnip: Good idea. will try that
[18:27] <Jigawatts> there is an auto start gui in ubuntu I think
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> Drdittersdorf: put it in /usr/share/applications it will appear in Dash
[18:27] <DrDittersdorf> nice. thanks
[18:28] <pakiboy^> \identify qais81
[18:28] <NuSuey> anyone got an idea how to fuix my hdmi audio? every 12 sec i hear a high pitched noise :o
[18:28] <wjtaylor> is the parition table stored on block 0?
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> Nusuey: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[18:30] <Bauer1> Guys, what about the problem in 13.10 with language switching? I still cant switch with left Alt-Shift, unless I switch using the icon with the mouse, at least once...
[18:31] <theadmin> Bauer1: Yeah, is a bug.
[18:31] <theadmin> Bauer1: Known issue, made me downgrade to 12.04 because it's annoying.
[18:31] <DrDittersdorf> ActionParsnip: thank for the good idea. it's just perfect
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> Drdittersdorf: you can now configure systems in that way via SSH too :-)
[18:32] <Bauer1> theadmin: wow, its KNOWN, and not considered high priority at all?
[18:32] <theadmin> Bauer1: But you can probably use a third-party layout switching tool, like gxneur
[18:32] <DrDittersdorf> ActionParsnip: LOL got it
[18:32] <iori> #join zlatana zeubi
[18:33] <theadmin> Bauer1: (is in the repos, saying "third-party" because it's not part of Ubuntu eh)
[18:33] <Repox> Hello. Is it possible to get a list of all services that starts on boot?
[18:34] <MonkeyDust> Bauer1  find the package name, then contact the maintainer
[18:34] <TomAstro> Action:  anything make sense in that upload of information?
[18:35] <io______> hi I am trying to set up a clickpad with synclient but although i do any configuration the clickpad behavior does not change, is there anything that may be overriding my config?
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> Tomastro: if you run: alsamixer ,are all levels maxed and unmuted?
[18:35] <theadmin> Bauer1: Well, *some* progress is there, earlier Alt+Shift wouldn't work at all
[18:35] <TomAstro> Yep
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> Tomastro: use F6 to select the right device for output, do the same in the sound app in Dash
[18:36] <TomAstro> RePOX.  Check this out for your services
[18:36] <juken> Hi All, I have an installation of Ubuntu server 13.04 running remotely in a datacenter with no KVM or anything attached to it. I'd like to do a fresh install of Ubuntu desktop 13.10. Is there a way I can do it remotely?
[18:36] <TomAstro> http://askubuntu.com/questions/57909/how-do-you-get-a-list-of-all-starting-services
  ----->>  http://askubuntu.com/questions/57909/how-do-you-get-a-list-of-all-starting-services
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> Juken: you can upgrade to 13.10 online then install a DE if you like
[18:37] <Bauer1> theadmin: well, but I have no idea how to find the correct package name responsible for the broken functionality...
[18:37] <juken> ActionParsnip: I'd like to go with a fresh install, this guy has 7 or 8 GPUs in it and I'd like to start fresh to get the drivers and everything working correctly.
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> NuSuey: its a simple terminal command
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> Juken: then you will need a smarthands to get the disk put in and such
[18:38] <NuSuey> Action ..give me a minute.. need to reboot
[18:39] <juken> ActionParsnip: I'm guessing you mean a person onsite :)
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> Juken: yes
[18:39] <juken> ActionParsnip: Alright, thanks
  Have you seen this?  ------>http://askubuntu.com/questions/203301/how-to-safely-upgrade-from-an-older-ubuntu-version-to-a-newer-one
[18:40] <hamedk> minimec:are you still there?
[18:40] <TomAstro> But it would be best to have someone on site there to do this.
[18:40] <hamedk> !seen minimec
[18:40] <hamedk> ubottu: have a seen command u bad boy
[18:40] <minimec> hamedk: yup
[18:42] <hamedk> minimec: i just got home. how can i disable 3rd party repositories, it says dl.google..... has some problems in apt-get update
[18:42] <TomAstro> Ok Action  I almost missed the last post to me  I'll that again and see what happens
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> Tomastro: use F6 to set the output device in alsamixer
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> Tomastro: also do the same in sound application in Dash
[18:44] <minimec> hamedk: check for Software & Sources in the dash. Other way is to remove the file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d or the line in /etc/apt/sources.list. Similar as before with medibuntu...
[18:44] <jhutchins_wk> Bauer1: It's starting to look like releasing 13.10 on schedule came at the expense of several problems not being fixed yet.
[18:44] <minimec> hamedk: Were you able to solve the 'mysql-server' problem.
[18:44] <hamedk> minimec: no
[18:45] <NuSuey> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[18:45] <minimec> hamedk: Ok. Let's fix that one too.
[18:46] <hamedk> where to start buddy?
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> Nusuey: try: killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.config/pulse; rm -r ~/.pulse*
[18:47] <minimec> hamedk: First remove the repo that gives you errors. then 'sudo apt-get update'.
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> Nusuey: wait 10 seconds and reboot
[18:47] <NuSuey> ActionParsnip: did that help you somehow? :o no clue how to fix the issue..
[18:47] <NuSuey> (lag)
[18:47] <NuSuey> ok going to reboot
 Just as I figured.  Still no HDMI selection anymore in Sound as it was in earlier versions.  I tried F6 again just to see if it would stick, but all I have in sound Output is Digital Output (S/PDIF) - Built-in Audio  and  Analog Output - Built-in Audio; and Input Just the USB Mic and My AverTV card.
[18:49] <TomAstro> I have tried all the options undr F6 and no change to sound
[18:49] <TomAstro> Well at least HDMI showing back up
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> Tomastro: try under sound app in dash
[18:49] <TomAstro> Yep and no HDMI options
[18:50] <NuSuey> ActionParsnip: still got the issue :o every ~ 12 sec..
[18:50] <therazr> TomAstro: what's your graphics card?
[18:51] <TomAstro> Built in GeForce 7050 PV/nForce 630a.  It is what I have had all along.
[18:52] <TomAstro> What still baffles me is that all the versions before including Susse worked fine.
[18:53] <therazr> TomAstro: So now you don't have HDMI audio output from your card?
[18:53] <hamedk> mininec: how to fix this: W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ precise/partner i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_partner_binary-i386_Packages)
[18:54] <hamedk> i'm so stupid duplicate lines in source.list, yep?
[18:55] <TomAstro> This system had a custom version of Susse on it but they do not support the product anymoe so I went to Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and I was good until I decided to try a fresh install of 13.10.  Guess I should have followed my own advice.  If it is not brok don't fix it.
[18:55] <TomAstro> No rAZR
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> Hamedk: comment the partner repo out in /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> Hamedk: sounds like you have a list file already defining it
[18:56] <TomAstro> Apparently 13.10 does not like this hardware
[18:56] <minimec> hamedk: the same way. 'software & sources' or in the file /etc/apt/sources.list.  MY /etc/apt/sources.list file would look like that... http://paste.ubuntu.com/6389655/
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> Tomastro: Precise is also LTS so suported long after Saucy is EOL
[18:57] <therazr> TomAstro: These hardware issues mostly get fixed by kernel updates throughout the cycle of the release
[18:57] <cometsan> TomAstro, what is the exact hw problem?
[18:58] <minimec> hamedk: Also I see, that you did not clean the /var/lib/apt folder, like I mentioned before...
[18:58] <TomAstro> What has changed from all the older versions to 13.10 that broke the audio which was quite fragile in the first place?
[18:58] <therazr> ActionParsnip: Normal releases are there for being used. We shouldn't use LTSs as excuses for bugs that exist in the other ones
[18:58] <hamedk> minimec: how do you see that????
[18:59] <minimec> hamedk: Magic ;)
[18:59] <minimec> hamedk: 17:39       minimec : hamedk: Take it easy... We will fix it ;) Follow that post and rename the files and folders in /var/lib/apt -->  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1983220&s=4122322b46163862b7973acf6c75921c&p=11958892#post11958892
[18:59] <TomAstro> I can see many HDMI Output issues just building up in the forums since this release.
[18:59] <Ubuntivity> Hello
[19:00] <cometsan> TomAstro, is the audio builtin to the motherboard?
[19:00] <NuSuey> ActionParsnip: are you still here? :)
[19:00] <hamedk> minimec: your magic sucks this time :P i really did this :D
[19:01] <hamedk> minimec: update without any error finally!
[19:01] <Ubuntivity> I have an old problem with my Atheros AR9285 on my Ubuntu 12.04, the problem is that I should be within 3 meters range from the router in order to be able to connect wifi.
  In Short,  I did a fresh install of Ubuntu 13.10 after running 12.04,  No upgrade, A clean drive and install. And No more HDMI or Digital Surround 5.1 and up  output anymore.    Why should I?
[19:03] <wjtaylor> I dd a MBR on my drive and copied what fdisk showed as the parition table. I'm trying to restore this in a vm, but when I dd the MBR to the VM drive the fdisk output doesn't match the fdisk output of the source. Anyone know why this would be?
[19:03] <NuSuey> So.. anyone know how can I solve my issue with the HDMI audio doing some high pitched noise every ~  10 - 12 sec?
[19:03] <cometsan> TomAstro, do you have any options to add on another sound card?
[19:03] <GuybrushThreepwo> I've asked this here before, but it wouldn't hurt to have a second opinion. I have a HP ENVY dv6 Notebook PC with windows 8. Last time I tried turning secure mode off and dual booting ubuntu, the secured mode being off (as least the best buy rep told me that tends to cause issues) after a time, glitched my windows 8 partition.
[19:03] <hamedk> minimec: cause i lost my file over libreoffice and when I wanted to install foremost for trying to get it recovered faced with this error!
[19:03] <patx> hello i have connected my iphone via bluetooth to my computer in order to play music through my computers speakers. it is connected but when i play music through the phone no sound comes through. in the sound setting for input i have slected my iphone however and the input level shows sound but nothing is heard. i know my speakers are working however because i can play pandora on my computer. can anybody tell me how to get my phone audible thr
[19:03] <patx> ough the computers speakers?
[19:03] <NuSuey> would love eternally .. anyone who would help me fix it
[19:03] <NuSuey> :p
[19:04] <minimec> hamedk: Can you install other software, or does apt prevent you to install. Try sudo 'apt-get install gdebi'
[19:04] <GuybrushThreepwo> Think old-style NES glitches, that's sort of what it looked like. I couldn't load into windows. Is there a way I can dual boot without turning secured mode off?
[19:04] <wilee-nilee> wjtaylor, Why the dd on a mbr they are easy to load for a boot?
[19:04] <TomAstro> I have one pci and one pci e .
[19:04] <hamedk> minimec: no it doesn't let me do anything with apt-get
[19:05] <cometsan> TomAstro, at least thats two ways to solve the problem
[19:05] <TomAstro> Not looking to replace hardware due to something that changed with the software.  I'll just pull all my work and go back to 12.04  before i do that.
[19:06] <AssociateX> Happy Birthday everyone!
[19:06] <TomAstro> With all the pastebin info I posted I would think that a Dev would have picked up on this by now.  The posts are mounting all over the forums on this HDMI issue.
[19:07] <minimec> hamedk: Now I know, that you probably have to move/delete a file, but I have to remember which one... Let me think a moment.
[19:07] <wilee-nilee> GuybrushThreepwo, have you been using the fast boot with ubuntu dualbooted?
[19:07] <wjtaylor> wilee-nilee: wasn't sure i could put a linux mbr on a windows drive...
[19:07] <cometsan> TomAstro, what does your dmesg say about the audio? That might be useful for deciding if it's a kernel issue or an alsa issue
[19:08] <ThinkT510> wjtaylor: harddrives are OS agnostic
[19:08] <AssociateX> I had a Ubuntu update, then after Mozilla would no longer play flash (youtube, vimeo, etc.) I have a very old AGP video card that only uses an old version of libflashplayer.so, which I keep down graded. Where could I look to unblock flash?
[19:08] <AssociateX> Thank you.
[19:09] <AssociateX> Nvidia, btw
[19:09] <wilee-nilee> wjtaylor, This a msdos ntfs not a uefi gpt ntfs?
[19:09] <AssociateX> fx5200
[19:09] <minimec> hamedk: ok. 'sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/status /var/lib/dpkg/status-old', then sudo apt-get update again...
[19:09] <TomAstro> Hang on Comestan,  Let me post the Links
[19:09] <TomAstro> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=ecbcde4ed5874b18b8c18ea54d85ce7033287134
[19:10] <wjtaylor> ThinkT510: Kind of dos mbr is different than what I use today.. it may be the same at some deeper level that I don't know
[19:10] <wilee-nilee> wjtaylor, If it is just a windows OS you would use its mbr loaded with its recovery or install disc if it using the mbr.
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> Associatex: your CPU may not support the features needed for new flash
[19:10] <TomAstro> http://pastebin.com/Mwhwvwxw
[19:10] <wjtaylor> wilee-nilee: It's a Win2k NTFS part
[19:10] <AssociateX> ActionParsnip, it was working last night.
[19:10] <TomAstro> All the system info is listed in the two links.  Pastebin being the shorter of the two URLS
[19:10] <wjtaylor> wilee-nilee: The real issue is that I have a dd rip that I cannot mount
[19:11] <AssociateX> ActionParsnip, or did something change in the last 15 hours?
[19:11] <wjtaylor> I thought it was a dd of a part, but I can't mount it directly or as a drive.
[19:11] <hamedk> minimec: solved!!!!!!!
[19:11] <hamedk> minimec: FUCKING SOLVED
[19:11] <wilee-nilee> wjtaylor, Not sure with that early of a windows release.
[19:11] <hamedk> minimec: actually i didn't do the last thing you said!
[19:11] <TomAstro> Well That is one Happy Camper with a Solved issue.  Congrats Hamedk
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> Associatex: what is the output of: lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[19:12] <minimec> hamedk: Now never mess with you sources again... ;) Only use 'software & sources' ;)
[19:12] <wilee-nilee> !language | hamedk
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> Associatex: please use a pastebin to host
[19:12] <hamedk> wilee-nilee: sure
[19:12] <wjtaylor> wilee-nilee: now I feel old... :)
[19:12] <hamedk> TomAstro: thanks!
[19:12] <TomAstro> Maybe a bit overly happy though...   lol
[19:13] <hamedk> minimec: i purged mysql-server + mysql-server-5.5
[19:13] <wilee-nilee> hamedk, Glad your happy, however this is a worldwide channel covering multi cultural ethnic and  gender groups
[19:13] <NuSuey> well.. ActionParsnip tried even to use another sampling frequency.. didnt help too :/
[19:13] <wjtaylor> Is there a flag or some sort of marker that would show the beginning of a partition? Something I could look for with a hex editor?
[19:13] <minimec> hamedk: Ok. If you install mysql-server again now, it will use the correct package...
 GuybrushThreepwo, have you been using the fast boot with ubuntu dualbooted? <- I'm not sure, I just know that last time I tried to dual boot, it wouldn't work unless secure boot was off
[19:14] <hamedk> minimec: now I can get back to my real problem!
[19:14] <GuybrushThreepwo> I'm not sure about fast boot, maybe i turned that off too
[19:14] <AssociateX> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.ca/2475051
[19:14] <cometsan> TomAstro, oh you've got the nforce sound on a MSI board? I've got one of those too. That's why I added a pci sound card, because it didn't work too well with anything
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> Nusuey: thats all i know. My sound troubleshooting ability is basic
[19:15] <wilee-nilee> GuybrushThreepwo, Mainly you have to shut down each OS to boot the other, no hibernate in either.
[19:15] <TomAstro> Hamedk  Just a small suggestion,  Read up on the workings of MySQL and even install a Sql manager to look at what makes it tick.  I say LOOK Only....  But this way you will learn how it works
[19:16] <Ubuntivity> Guys, I have a problem with my Atheros AR9285 on 12.04, here is the problem details: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2134419.html
[19:16] <wilee-nilee> GuybrushThreepwo, No hibernate unless you go back to the OS hibernating anyway.
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> Associatex: uninstall flashplugin-installer then enable the partner repo and install adobe-flashplugin
[19:16] <GuybrushThreepwo> wilee-nilee, the issue is that it didn't detect ubuntu while secure boot was on
[19:16] <GuybrushThreepwo> And after I turned it off, after a month or 2, windows 8 stopped working
[19:17] <NuSuey> ActionParsnip: ah :( too bad.. it's the only thing that I need to go to windows to do.. wanna watch a movie? cannot.. the high pitched sound every 10 secs .. is really a bad bad thing :o
[19:17] <GuybrushThreepwo> best buy rep thought that might be why, and i had to recover using recovery partition
   It worked here since I bought this system as a TV / Satellite receiver package called a Captiveworks 3000/4000.  It only does not work with 13.10
[19:17] <patx> hello i have connected my iphone via bluetooth to my computer in order to play music through my computers speakers. it is connected but when i play music through the phone no sound comes through. in the sound setting for input i have slected my iphone however and the input level shows sound but nothing is heard. i know my speakers are working however because i can play pandora on my computer. can anybody tell me how to get my phone audible thr
[19:17] <patx> ough the computers speakers?
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntivity: check wlan0 is your wireless device name
[19:17] <AssociateX> ActionParsnip, I have to manually install flash 10_2r152_26, that's the last one that will work with my card.
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> Associatex: you can use minitube as it doesnt use flash
[19:18] <TomAstro> I know I can just dump 13.10 but after all the tweaking that I did to they system  I hate to have to do it all over again.
[19:18] <GuybrushThreepwo> basically i want to know how i can prevent that from happening again because i need both OS
[19:18] <GuybrushThreepwo> does secureboot have to be off?
[19:18] <AssociateX> ActionParsnip, but then I wont be about to watch flash on the other sites that use it. I'm going to see what might be installed that I wasn't aware of. Thank you for the help.
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> Associatex: try chrome as well
[19:19] <cometsan> TomAstro, actually I'd guess maybe you were lucky when it worked in 12. I had a really bad time with the nforce onboard sound. And the onboard ethernet too.
[19:19] <TomAstro> It is probably one line of code that is trashing the HDMI in 13.10
[19:19] <Jordan_U> GuybrushThreepwo: Ubuntu does *not* require secure boot to be off.
[19:20] <Ubuntivity> ActionParsnip: it IS wlan0
[19:20] <GuybrushThreepwo> jordan, but EFI or whatever doesn't detect it or something
[19:20] <GuybrushThreepwo> at least back then
[19:20] <AssociateX> ActionParsnip, same problem, I'm riding a dinosaur of a computer here. Thank you, you have been helpful.
[19:20] <TomAstro> This system had Susse on a CF card with only one gig of ram and No HD and HDMI and surround worked great.
[19:21] <GuybrushThreepwo> i dont know whats changed since the beginning of the year
[19:22] <TomAstro> 1080P video out is great though via the HDMI.  Just sound via that rout is history with this new version.
[19:23] <cometsan> TomAstro, I notice the logs you posted said it also found a usb audio device. Maybe that is confusing alsa?
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> Associatex: then you will need to use the older flash
[19:23] <AssociateX> ActionParsnip, you're awesome! I didn't think to check what was installed. I got rid of the Adobe Flash Player plugin installer that somehow had gotten installed that I thought was blocked. Derp! Thank you very much for the help. I have my very old flash player installed and it is working correctly now. I'm thankful.
[19:24] <AssociateX> Yippy!
[19:25]  * Ubuntivity feels his problem is beyond the coverage of this channel
[19:26] <TomAstro> And Yes folks another Happy Camper in the garden of Ubuntu.  Congrats AssociateX.
[19:26] <TomAstro> bangs head on table.
[19:26] <TomAstro> lol
[19:26] <lvleph> when trying to mount my samba share using mount -t cifs -o guest,rw //<IP_ADDRESS>/Media /media/MINIX I get mount error(13): Permission denied on one computer while on another computer it works fine.
[19:26] <AssociateX> Ha ha!
[19:27] <MonkeyDust> Ubuntivity  what problem would that be? maybe we can direct you to the right channel
[19:27] <cometsan> TomAstro, what kind of usb audio device do you have connected?
[19:27] <lvleph> The difference between the two comps is one is running 13.04 (the one that fails) and the other is running 12.04
[19:29] <TomAstro> Just my cam.  I had it all pulled and still no joy here.  So not an issue with the USB mic on the cam killing hdmi.  That mic works great.  It can pick up a cricket fart a block away.
[19:29] <dannymichel> How do i test font substitutions in the terminal again? Like see what font is replacing Arial etc.?
[19:30] <whoever> TomAstro: whats your can issue
[19:30] <whoever> it doesn't work, it does work, i am lost
[19:30] <TomAstro> I am glad all are answering me now.  Han on let me press play.
[19:32] <whoever> TomAstro: if you don't anster i / we cannot help you
[19:32] <TomAstro> I have an HDMI Issue.  Al previous versions of Ubuntu I had HDMI out along with various digital surround sound outputs.  As soon as I did a clean install (Fresh drive)  of Ubuntgu 13.10,  No more HDMI or Digital Surround Sound 5.1 and up[
[19:33] <lvleph> I guess I will repeat my question  when trying to mount my samba share using mount -t cifs -o guest,rw //<IP_ADDRESS>/Media /media/MINIX I get mount error(13): Permission denied on one computer while on another computer it works fine. The difference between the two comps is one is running 13.04 (the one that fails) and the other is running 12.04
[19:33] <whoever> TomAstro: is this a web cam ? if so then why hdmi
[19:34] <whoever> lvleph: is this in fstab or  you are manualy tring
[19:34] <lvleph> both
[19:34] <TomAstro> No not a problem Whoever.  I am glad for the help.  Just been posting this every half her or so.  lol  Thanks for taking an interest.  Just odd that 13.10 does not like my system here when all previous versions including Susse worked fine with HDMI.
[19:34] <NuSuey> how would I setup, that my output would go through alsa instead of pulseaudio?
[19:35] <whoever> lvleph:  are you tring to mount it from 192.768.197
[19:35] <TomAstro> Nope on the webcam thing.  I was just asked by my posted list in pastebin what the USB item was.
[19:35] <lvleph> no I am mounting from <IP_ADDRESS> whoever
[19:35] <TomAstro> http://pastebin.com/Mwhwvwxw
[19:36] <whoever> lvleph: tell me : who owns /MEDIA
[19:36] <lvleph> root
[19:36] <lvleph> but that media is on an Android device, so don't chide me for that
[19:36] <lvleph> lol
[19:38] <whoever> lvleph: so why are you tring to mount the andoid dir to your ubuntu box
[19:38] <lvleph> whoever, I have hacked the hell out of this android device and now it is a media server
[19:38] <whoever> lvleph: why not just hook up your usb cable aand transfer files
[19:38] <lvleph> lol
[19:38] <fishor> TomAstro, i switch to this channel, no need to make double work
[19:38] <lvleph> whoever, it is not a phone
[19:39] <whoever> lvleph: there is a samba share app in the play that will make this a lot easier for you
[19:39] <lvleph> whoever, there is no app running this is full samba
[19:39] <TomAstro> Thanks.  Thats ok  I was between Alsa Pulse and this channel.  lol
[19:39] <lvleph> like I said I have hacked the hell out of this android device whoever
[19:40] <whoever> lvleph: so it is still running a verient of andoid
[19:40] <lvleph> yes whoever but this is not relevant to my question
[19:41] <lvleph> If you would like to read more about what I have done I can give you a link to the writeup whoever
[19:41] <whoever> lvleph: ok, post it
[19:41] <HiddenDjinn> ok, i got postfix working, finally
[19:41] <lvleph> whoever, http://minixforums.com/threads/how-to-linux-optware-ssh-samba-transmission-flexget.2825/#post-23301
[19:41] <whoever> lvleph: i assume you can ping it correct ?
[19:42] <TomAstro> It looks to me that I have all stummped here.  There is no other information I can think of that I can supply to help me with this issue.  It looks to me that the new kernel for 13.10 does not like Nvidia HDMI .  I haven't taken notice of what sound cards of all the other growing complaints of no HDMI out with 13.10 but it is growing.
[19:42] <lvleph> I can connect with one Ubuntu comp and not another
[19:42] <lvleph> TomAstro, http://youtu.be/iYWzMvlj2RQ lol
[19:43] <HiddenDjinn> i've also noticed that 13.10 doesn't really have a complete lamp stack
[19:43] <whoever> lvleph: what about your allow and deny files in /etc
[19:43] <lvleph> whoever, I don't understand the question
[19:43] <NuSuey> I can use alsa output in vlc.. can I use alsa output in chrome? :o
[19:44] <didthatwork> Good Afternoon, I am trying to figure out how to uninstall/remove the youtube app from Ubuntu 13.10x64. I got a prompt in Chromium to install a web app and I clicked yes. Now the youtube app is always in my sound drop down list. Thank you
[19:44] <whoever> lvleph: typlicly in any linux distro there is in /etc/ host.allow and host.deny files that allow or deny hosts
[19:44] <fishor> TomAstro, don't panic. just test different kernel
  Been there seen that.  That does not relate to my issue though.
[19:45] <lvleph> oh, in the hosts file. There is no whitelist or blacklist whoever
[19:45] <HiddenDjinn> didthatwork, it's not installed into ubuntu, per se, it's installed into chromium
[19:45] <whoever> lvleph: can you ssh to it with both ubuntu boxes
[19:45] <lvleph> yes whoever
[19:45] <HiddenDjinn> didthatwork, you remove it from chromium, and it will be gone
[19:45] <whoever> lvleph: does eatch ubuntu box use the same login info
[19:45] <TomAstro> That's where I fail here.  I am a hardware person or specific software and firmware for what I needed in Broadcast.  I am lost on how to go about that.
[19:46] <lvleph> no whoever
[19:46] <lvleph> however they both have the same rsa pub
[19:46] <CherryHillTony> I had Skype, but now it's been days now that I can't get it to come up!
[19:46] <lvleph> this shouldn't matter with samba though whoever
[19:46] <whoever>  can you login to your android using the working credenials from the box with the credentials that don't work
[19:47] <amin> hack mobile sniff ?
[19:47] <lvleph> permission denied again whoever
[19:47] <DrGrov> A quick support for 13.10. I have a screenshot showing my online accounts from System Settings. Does this mean I have no accounts and how does it work if it gets accounts there? http://aijaa.com/xJNtBk
[19:47] <DrGrov> Or I mean when it says "Add account" it is empty so to speak?
[19:47] <lvleph> if I don't provide credentials it does ask for a pw whoever so that is a good sign
[19:48] <theadmin> DrGrov: No accounts, yes. To add one, you click "Add account" and choose one.
[19:48] <whoever> lvleph: what  does your allow deny ip range look like in smb.conf
[19:48] <intrader> minimec, I need help with making a launcher for Freemind - this used to be easy in previous versions of unity.
[19:48] <theadmin> DrGrov: Then you log in, it automatically logs you in to all supported apps for that kind of account (Empathy, Shotwell, whatever)
[19:48] <DrGrov> theadmin: So, I click on ex. Facebook if I want to add that? The + sign did nothing.
[19:48] <theadmin> DrGrov: Yep
[19:48] <whoever> so now can you log in to android from the working ubuntu box with both sets of credentials
[19:48] <DrGrov> theadmin: Ah okay. Now I am starting to get this. It was confusing me.
[19:49] <lvleph> whoever, I don't have an allow or deny section
[19:49] <DrGrov> theadmin: You saw the screenshot?
[19:49] <theadmin> intrader: Making a launcher is weirdly complicated nowadays, but does it have a menu entry already?
[19:49] <theadmin> DrGrov: Yeah.
[19:49] <lvleph> If you go to the github link in that link I provided you can see most of the smb.conf whoever
[19:49] <wjtaylor> how can I mount a dd of a whole drive?
[19:49] <minimec> intrader: hi.  ;)  gedit ~/.local/share/applications/Freemind.desktop
[19:49] <DrGrov> theadmin: Great, thanks. Is there any clear advantages of having accounts added vs. having them online as regular?
[19:50] <minimec> intrader: Now we have to fill in the stuff you need
[19:51] <whoever> lvleph: what does host allow (arround line 40)
[19:51] <theadmin> wjtaylor: sudo kpartx -a /part/to/image.dd
[19:51] <theadmin> wjtaylor: Eh, /path/to/image
[19:51] <whoever> lvleph: can you pastebin your smb.conf
[19:51] <solars> hey, I've got a NFC device in my laptop and wonder how to use it. It's recognized by neard etc, but how can I actually use nfc tags?
[19:52] <lvleph> This is easier https://github.com/erichlf/AndroidSeedBox/blob/master/smb.conf
[19:52] <theadmin> wjtaylor: sudo partx -a /path/to/image.dd and then run partx -s /path/to/image.dd to see what the partitions got created as
[19:52] <minimec> intrader: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6389962/
[19:52] <lvleph> the only difference is the location of the share and its name whoever
[19:53] <Darksonn> Hello, my ubuntu won't start up at all, except for terminal in recovery mode. Any ideas?
[19:53] <ikonia> Darksonn: the most common cause for that would be an Xorg problem, looking in the xorg log files would be a good starting point
[19:53] <whoever> lvleph: so can you pastebin that info tem
[19:53] <whoever> *then
[19:53] <wjtaylor> theadmin: thanks I'll check that out.
[19:54] <Darksonn> ikonia: where are they located?
[19:54] <ikonia> Darksonn: /var/log
[19:54] <wraithD> hello everyone
[19:54] <kostkon> !find nfc
[19:54] <Darksonn> ikonia: found them
[19:54] <hopfen> hello. I am using linux for the first time. because my user is not in the sudoers file, I tried su>adminpass>visudo. I can edit the visudo file, but I dont know how to save the changes and the command line is gone, I see only --INSERT-- at the bottom. what should I do?
[19:55] <ikonia> hopfen: what linux distribution are you using
[19:55] <hopfen> I use centos
[19:55] <hopfen> 6.4
[19:55] <hopfen> on vmware
[19:55] <ikonia> hopfen: ok, so the #centos channel is the correct place
[19:55] <wraithD> only see insert? sounds like vim?
[19:55] <whoever> lvleph: the share should have the same location since it is on the same server
[19:55] <Darksonn> ikonia: what am i to look for?
[19:55] <TomAstro> Ahhhhhhhhh  Haaaaaaaa   OK, For all that tried to help with the HDMI issue here.  What in XBMC is allowing 5.1 surround sound to pass through S/PDIF and not HDMI but in surround sound when all other tests without XBMC only passes stereo?   HDMI audio is still no go even in XBMC
[19:55] <whoever> , so that is mostlikly your problem
[19:55] <ikonia> Darksonn: EE (this means error) is a good start, but any obvious errors or warnings
[19:56] <lvleph> whoever, http://pastebin.com/Pi6Gb19L
[19:56] <lvleph> that isn't what I meant whoever any I pasted the actual smb.conf
[19:57] <Darksonn> ikonia: okay, (EE) Failed to load module "intel" (module does not exist, 0) theres also some other simmilar ones
[19:57] <TomAstro> this looks like a two fold issue.
[19:57] <ikonia> Darksonn: ok, so that's a good error, but also a concerning one, as intel should be installed by default on an ubuntu desktop install
[19:58] <Darksonn> ikonia: the error started around where i tried getting some drivers for a usb wireless reciever to work, i never succseeded
[19:58] <whoever> lvleph:  can you post your entire conf  i think i see  a problem
[19:58] <lvleph> TomAstro, maybe the Kernel doesn't have the option for S/PDIF passthrough with HDMI
[19:58] <ikonia> Darksonn: well, undoing what you did there would be a good starting point
[19:58] <lvleph> whoever, that is the entire conf
[19:58] <whoever> lvleph: do you want to allow annymouse
[19:58] <TomAstro> That could be possible
[19:59] <lvleph> yes
[19:59] <Darksonn> ikonia: im not exactly sure which packages it was though, is there a way to see my most recent uses of apt-get
[19:59] <whoever> thats a problem
[19:59] <lvleph> ok
[19:59] <ikonia> Darksonn: the dpkg.log is a good start
[19:59] <hamedk> mininec: i just wanted to share it with you! i could recover that libreoffice corrupted file! so hppy!
[19:59] <ikonia> Darksonn: however also checking if the xorg intel packages are installed would be a good start too, however I'd expect them to be there, if not your install is messed up
[19:59] <hamedk> mininec: thanks for your help bro :)
[19:59] <lvleph> which setting is the problem whoever?
[20:00] <minimec> hamedk: No problem.
[20:00] <Darksonn> ikonia: it has worked before
[20:00] <ikonia> Darksonn: yes, but it's not working now
[20:00] <ikonia> Darksonn: so that means you've had the modules in place - now you've done something to them, which means it's probably pretty messed up
[20:00] <TomAstro> Why was that changed though.  Leads back to,  If it's not broke don't try to fix it.   Now it's broke.  Or the other issues fix one thing and break another.  A Devs Nightmare.
[20:00] <whoever> lvleph: you dont need wins support , dns proxy, name resolv order or netbios name in global nor do you need guest account  or preferred master
[20:00] <minimec> hamedk: Happy that you got your problems solved.
[20:01] <lvleph> TomAstro, I didn't say that it wasn't in the kernel, but it is possible. I know this is why my android device can't do it.
[20:01] <whoever> guest will never work in this there is more you need to do for it to work
[20:01] <lvleph> ok whoever
[20:01] <Darksonn> ikonia: where should i look in dpkg.log file?
[20:01] <hamedk> minimec: actually all the forum guys were dissappointed at solving this problem but out of the blue i could recover my assignment out of libreoffice damn bug!
[20:02] <ikonia> Darksonn: what do you mean "where" it's a log file of what gets installed
[20:02] <whoever> lvleph: so remove the guest ok, guest only entries for eadh share ,  and add a list of users , that will allow  the user acces to the directory
[20:02] <lvleph> I don't have guest in global whoever
[20:02] <ikonia> Darksonn: I'd focus on if the intel stuff is there or not
[20:02] <__raven_> pulse is completely broken in 13.10: only noise with several programs and no support of volume control any more. how to fix that
[20:02] <lvleph> I want guest in each share though whoever
[20:02] <TomAstro> Oh I know what you ment.  Just saying that something in this release is now broken.  I am not the only one with the issue by what I have been reading this past week.
[20:02] <Darksonn> ikonia: okay, how would i do that?
[20:02] <whoever> lvleph: but you have guest account = root
[20:02] <lvleph> without the guest I will have to use credentials whoever
[20:02] <ikonia> Darksonn: look in the package manager
[20:03] <lvleph> doesn't guest account = root assign ownership for the guests?
[20:03] <whoever> OvermindDL1: you have it set wrong , hold on, ill get you the correct settings
[20:03] <kostkon> __raven_, is it a fresh install?
[20:03] <__raven_> kostkon: yes
[20:03] <TomAstro> After being a PITA in here all day..  I might as well post a bug report since apparently all that tried to help may be stumped with this issue.
[20:04] <lvleph> it defines access priveleges according to the samba man whoever
[20:04] <TomAstro> And I do appreciate all the help.
[20:04] <theleft> anyone else still having problems with launchpad.net ppas? i'm still getting bad signatures. not sure where else to ask
[20:04] <kostkon> __raven_, hmm. tried deleting the ~/.pulse folder?
[20:04] <ikonia> theleft: the PPA owners is a good start, or the launchpad admin team
[20:04] <whoever> lvleph: you need to change security to user  , share will not work , it has been deprecated a while
[20:04] <__raven_> kostkon: on a new install? ill try...
[20:05] <TomAstro> I did earlier The Left.  Which ppa is hangbing on you or 404 ed
[20:05] <__raven_> kostkon: there is no .pulse
[20:05] <theleft> TomAstro, three of them actually
[20:05] <kostkon> __raven_, yeah i know, but give it a try. then logout and log back in
[20:05] <Darksonn> ikonia: dpkg -s intel gives Package intel is not installed and no information is available
[20:05] <kostkon> __raven_, hmm
[20:05] <lvleph> whoever, I was told on the samba irc to change from user to share
[20:05] <ikonia> Darksonn: the package name is not intel, you want the xorg intel package
[20:05] <whoever> lvleph: you alo need to  add  "map to gues = bad user "
[20:05] <kostkon> __raven_, is pulse actually running? i think not:   ps -A | grep pulse
[20:05] <TomAstro> If there are two close to the same post one here and let me see if it was the same here
[20:06] <lvleph> bad user doesn't work on the android device whoever
[20:06] <whoever> lvleph:  i have it set to use in mine , you may want to keep it or change it to user if it doesn't work
[20:06] <whoever> lvleph:
[20:06] <kalinek> Skype work in ubuntu?
[20:06] <Gblue> ye
[20:06] <whoever> lvleph:  but i ton't think it will really affect anything
[20:06] <Darksonn> ikonia: same output for dpkg -s xserver-xorg-video-intel (googles suggestion of the name)
[20:06] <TomAstro> Works here Kalinek
[20:07] <kostkon> kalinek, yes
[20:07] <__raven_> kostkon: its running and pavucontrol too but nothing is able to control in there
[20:07] <ikonia> Darksonn: ok, so it's not installed, there is a core part of the problem
[20:07] <xXxRosexXxEE> How do I turn off hardware acceleration in flashplayer off in Ubuntu 13+ 64bit?
[20:07] <ikonia> Darksonn: how/why that was uninstalled is a conern though
[20:07] <xXxRosexXxEE> the dam button doesn't work on settings in the video
[20:07] <lvleph> I will try the user setting again whoever
[20:07] <TomAstro> Just once in a while Skype hangs on connecting to their server.
[20:07] <Darksonn> ikonia: should we try to install it
[20:07] <kalinek> how install skype in ubuntu if commands app-get doesn`t work?
[20:08] <ikonia> Darksonn: if it needs/wants the intel module, yes
[20:08] <kostkon> __raven_, try restarting it, check for any error messages:  pulseaudio -k  and then  pulseaudio --start
[20:08] <TomAstro> download the .deb from their site and install it via the store
[20:08] <Darksonn> ikonia: how do we know if it does that?
[20:09] <minimec> kalinek: Enable the 'partner' repository in 'software & updates
[20:09] <TomAstro> Google Skype for Linux and there will be one page onm their site for the Linux version
[20:09] <kostkon> kalinek, you first need to enable the partner repo in software sources
[20:09] <ikonia> Darksonn: oyou said in log it wanted the intel module that was missing, that suggests it dowes
[20:09] <TomAstro> After you download it then just open it with the Ubuntu store ap
[20:10] <Darksonn> ikonia: okay, im guessing sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[20:12] <Darksonn> ikonia: im guessing sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[20:12] <__raven_> kostkon: it seems we are going back in time: there was an interference between several apps
[20:13] <TomAstro> Thank you to all that tried to help with My HDMI issue here.  This looks to be a unresolvable isse here and I don't want to take up anymore time when ther eare others that may have something simple to fix.  Thanks again all.
[20:13] <kostkon> __raven_, one of your apps is blocking the sound card right
[20:13] <kostkon> __raven_, which one
[20:13] <TomAstro> goes to file a bug report for what it may be worth.
[20:14] <__raven_> kostkon: not "blocking" like in "old days" but one app seemed to have caused audacity playing with x100 speed or something
[20:14] <xXxRosexXxEE> omg...
[20:14] <xXxRosexXxEE> fine don't help
[20:15] <kostkon> __raven_, it could be audacity. check that "default" is set as the input and output device in audacity's settings
[20:16] <__raven_> kostkon: it was all unchanged i just restarted every app after restarting pulseaudio. perhaps any temporarily mess up by giving the options like sample rate to the apps?
[20:17] <kostkon> __raven_, time will tell
[20:17] <__raven_> kostkon: yes ;) but tnx for the moment
[20:17] <SupaYoshi> does anybody here have experience with Ubuntu as a PXE server?
[20:18] <SupaYoshi> I want to use Ubuntu as a PXE server but I don't know any good packages / software to do that./
[20:18] <kostkon> __raven_, np
[20:19] <vanillah> how can i install bsd ports on ubuntu
[20:19] <ikonia> vanillah: you don't
  Is this what you are looking for?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer
[20:19] <ikonia> vanillah: they are meant for bsd, so not to be used
[20:20] <vanillah> ikonia ?? but it's open source right, it won't work on ubuntu?
[20:20] <ikonia> vanillah: ports are built/packaged for bsd
[20:20] <theleft> vanillah,???
[20:20] <vanillah> i cant stand using apt-get for sfotware,, is there a alternative?
[20:20] <ikonia> vanillah: same way you don't use redhat built software on ubuntu, or even different ubuntu versions such as 12.04/13.10 packages
  ---->   http://askubuntu.com/questions/90826/ubuntu-equivalent-to-bsd-ports
[20:21] <ikonia> vanillah: what is the problem with apt-get or front ends to the package manager ?
[20:21] <SupaYoshi> thnx
[20:21] <SupaYoshi> that was what i wanted to do yeah
[20:21] <TomAstro> yw
[20:21] <SupaYoshi> Also, is there anyway about dhcpproxy?
[20:21] <yeats> vanillah: ubuntu/debian might not be for you then ;-)
[20:21] <SupaYoshi> I have a running DHCP server from my router which works really well....
[20:21] <vanillah> ikonia but becouse i run ubuntu this arent so helpful :D it says install gentoo
[20:21] <SupaYoshi> And I dont wanna change it actually just beacuse I wanna run a PXE server ;)
[20:21] <SupaYoshi> And I read that with dhcp proxy you can do something that you dont need to do something
[20:21] <ikonia> vanillah: what is the problem with apt-get
[20:22] <Neurotoxin> when I type:   sudo chmod 777  /home/me/mystupidfolder/     will then every file I create in there have full read permission???
[20:22] <TomAstro> ----->  Proxy info    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ProxyDHCP
[20:22] <satdav> Hello I was wondering when i install ldap on the site
[20:23] <vanillah> ikonia it gives me slow binary, isnt as flexible as good bsd ports etc :-(
[20:23] <satdav> server how do i access the admin area ofit
[20:23] <TomAstro> Proxy and PXE info ------>   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1606910
[20:23] <ikonia> vanillah: a slow binary ? what ?
[20:24] <vanillah> ikonia a binary that are slow like i386 not mine native hardware.. options i dont want turned on and no custom
[20:24] <ikonia> vanillah: I'm sorry but that is just made up stuff
[20:24] <TomAstro> LDAP info -------> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/openldap-server.html
[20:24] <ikonia> vanillah: it's not built for 386
[20:24] <vanillah> ikonia ok, firefox are build with pulseaudio,, i dont want,, its made up?
[20:24] <dnivra> Hello. I'm running Ubuntu 13.10. I have asked in ##networking too but just in case it's an Ubuntu issue, I thought I'd ask here. I'm trying to reach a remote ipv6 machine A via a machine B connected to A via a VPN. I'm on the same IPv6 LAN as B and can ping6 B. B can ping6 A via the tun interface. I have a default route pointing to B but somehow ping6 doesn't pick it up when I ping A. Has someone faced such an issue?
[20:24] <Neurotoxin> heeelp, how can I make a single command line always be executed at every system start?
[20:24] <ikonia> vanillah: some dependencies are optional, it's worth checking
[20:24] <Neurotoxin> and silently
[20:25] <kostkon> vanillah, it isn't
[20:25] <bekks> !autostart | Neurotoxin
[20:25] <ikonia> vanillah: and you didn't say dependencies where you problem, you said it's "slow 386" - that is simple made up
[20:25] <satdav> I am on the latest 13 build
[20:25] <vanillah> ikonia with bsd ports i can choose every option i want, remove useless things,, with ubuntu i must install many package and waste resourse
[20:25] <theleft> Neurotoxin, scripts
[20:25] <ikonia> vanillah: then use a source based distro, ubuntu isn't designed to be used in that way
[20:26] <vanillah> ikonia ubuntu isnt design to be used in production,,? i guess so
[20:26] <yeats> vanillah: /join #gentoo
[20:26] <DrGrov> Hello hello
[20:26] <ikonia> vanillah: please stop making up stuff, ubuntu is a production class machine, that's why it doesn't compile things on the fly like ports
[20:26] <kostkon> DrGrov, hi
[20:26] <satdav> TomAstro, I am using 13.10 64 bit
     Big Google Link ----------------->    https://www.google.com/search?q=Updating+13.04+to+13.10+server+via+remote&ie=UTF-8&sa=Search&channel=fe&client=browser-ubuntu&hl=en#channel=fe&hl=en&q=connect+to+a+remote+ipv6+machine+on+ubuntu
[20:26] <ikonia> vanillah: I suggest using a source based distro if that is your needs/desires
[20:26] <DrGrov> How can I check my USB ports on 13.10 via a terminal to determine if I am using the keyboard in the USB 3.0 slots or probably just in a USB 2.0 slot? This mobo is too advanced to manage at first.
[20:26] <DrGrov> hi kostkon
[20:27] <vanillah> ikonia is not production class, security vulnerability every week,, new systemD forced on me,, why linux have so much problems?
[20:27] <vanillah> ikonia if gentoo fix this i switch
[20:27] <ikonia> vanillah: ok - it appers you are trolling, if you don't like it, don't use it,
[20:27] <Calinou> vanillah there is no systemd in Ubuntu, only Upstart :)
[20:27] <bekks> systemd? when, where, on ubuntu?
[20:27] <ikonia> vanillah: try gentoo, see if yo ulike it
[20:27] <Neurotoxin> does ubuntu one not sync files without file endings?
[20:27] <DrGrov> I can check in the UEFI GUI on the mobo what is what but it does not say anything about the front panel 2x USB ports.
[20:27] <TomAstro> There should be info for either 32  or 64 bit.
[20:28] <bekks> Neurotoxin: It does. But how and where do you "sync files".
[20:28] <Gblue> [21:25] <dnivra> Hello. I'm running Ubuntu 13.10. I have asked in ##networking too but just in case it's an Ubuntu issue, I thought I'd ask here. I'm trying to reach a remote ipv6 machine A via a machine B connected to A via a VPN. I'm on the same IPv6 LAN as B and can ping6 B. B can ping6 A via the tun interface. I have a default route pointing to B but somehow ping6 doesn't pick it up when
[20:28] <Gblue> I ping A. Has someone faced such an issue?
[20:28] <Neurotoxin> automatically a selected folder from the ubuntuone gui
[20:28] <Gblue> ^^
[20:29] <pozz> hi guys, after dist-upgrade, my desktop looks like this: http://i.stack.imgur.com/5ETmD.jpg
[20:29] <pozz> does anyone have any suggestions on how to fix this?
[20:29] <satdav> @ldap
[20:29] <satdav> !ldap
[20:29] <dnivra> DrGrov: Thanks for that! But I don't think that quite answers my query - that is to connect to a remote IPv6 machine directly which isn't what I want(do correct me if I understood wrong).
[20:30] <DrGrov> dnivra: Huh?
[20:30] <wilee-nilee> pozz, This a distro upgrade or running dist-upgrade, and are you using a proprietary graphic driver?
[20:30] <satdav> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-install-and-configure-a-basic-ldap-server-on-an-ubuntu-12-04-vps
   Try to get to the video drivers and update.  Are you on a Nivida card?
[20:30] <DrGrov> dnivra: Probably just a wrong highlight on my nickname :)
[20:30] <satdav> is this the same way as 13.4
[20:30] <dnivra> DrGrov: Oh my bad! That was for TomAstro.
[20:30] <dnivra> TomAstro: Thanks for that! But I don't think that quite answers my query - that is to connect to a remote IPv6 machine directly which isn't what I want(do correct me if I understood wrong).
[20:31] <DrGrov> dnivra: No prob :)
[20:31] <wilee-nilee> TomAstro, You can tab complete nicks
[20:31] <pozz> wilee-nilee, yes, nivida graphics. but I tryed reinstalling my current driver as well as the different options available. nothing works to fix it
  ??
[20:32] <wilee-nilee> pozz, Using the one from nvidia will not follow a kernel upgrade, generally here we suggest the repos version, not an area I have had to mess with, but I wouild remove whats there then reinstall what works for you.
  I have had that exact issue,  Are you on a Nvidia Video card?
[20:32] <evilytwisted> hi, is there a program or command prompt that can tell me if my graphic card is fried.. Or i just need to update it..
[20:33] <wilee-nilee> !tab |TomAstro
[20:33] <pozz> Its weird, because logging into any... enviroment? (unity 2d, cinnamon, ect)... the background works fine
[20:33] <pozz> just unity 3d does this
[20:33] <Thomas_> Hi  Is it possible for apt-get to show a list of packages a user installed in date order?
[20:34] <pozz> TomAstro, yes
[20:34] <kostkon> pozz, you could try resetting it
[20:34] <yeats> pozz: if you create a new user account, does the same thing happen for the new user?
The Nouveau preset driver is the issue
[20:34] <wilee-nilee> TomAstro having <TomAstro> does not notify the user tab completing the nick does is all, or a comma after the actual nick or a :
[20:34] <kostkon> pozz, w8 for the link
[20:34] <pozz> k
[20:34] <kostkon> pozz, http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[20:35] <TomAstro> Ahhh Okis Willie.  I'm old school.  That used to work.
[20:35] <pozz> kostkon, that fails to work as well
[20:35] <Thomas_> Hi  Is it possible for apt-get to show a list of packages a user installed in date order?
  was what I used to use back in the day
[20:35] <wilee-nilee> TomAstro, Cool, just a heads up so the other sees your post is all. ;)
[20:35] <kostkon> pozz, as TomAstro has said, try activating the nvidia driver
[20:36] <pozz> I am using the graphics driver from the repos.. sorry I did not mean that I downloaded one from nvidia
[20:36] <yeats> Thomas_: I don't think so.  What problem are you trying to solve?
[20:36] <piroschok> hello. I am using linux (centos 6.4) for the first time. because my user is not in the sudoers file, I tried su>adminpass>visudo. I can edit the visudo file, but I dont know how to save the changes and the command line is gone, I see only --INSERT-- at the bottom. what should I do? I cant use centos irc because of registration. none of my email accounts receives the activation email. but...
[20:36] <piroschok> ...from what I understand the program terminal is the same on all distributions. please help
[20:36] <yeats> piroschok: you need to ask in a CentOS channel
[20:37] <piroschok> i cant join it
[20:37] <ubun> hi
[20:37] <TomAstro> Its hard to activate it since you have a heck of a time digging through the video mess.  It took me a half hr to get to the Softwar & Updates ap and then to the Additional Drivers tab
[20:37] <DJones> piroschok: You should ask that in the Centos IRC channel, this channel only supports Ubuntu
[20:37] <yeats> piroschok: this channel is for ubuntu support only
[20:37] <pozz> TomAstro, how can I fixed the Nouveau preset driver?
[20:37] <wilee-nilee> piroschok, talk to the guys at #freenode to get registered.
[20:37] <TomAstro> There is a way to update the driver in terminal but I can't remember it though.
[20:37] <pozz> I can get to the additional drivers tab
[20:38] <pozz> but additional drivers does nothing, I tryed activating each available one. nothing works
[20:39] <wilee-nilee> pozz, I believe a reboot is needed on thew driver load to use it as well.
[20:39] <wilee-nilee> the new*
[20:39] <TomAstro> Pozz:  Try getting to the Software &Updates tool then click the Additional drivers tab and select the Tested driver.
[20:39] <pozz> yeah, after activating one, I rebooted, no fix, tryed anther, rebooted, nothing... and so on
[20:40] <ubun> I setuped a bind9 server with ubuntu behind my router, the router uses a dhcp server for my lan-network, can I use the DNs server like this way or should he has his own dhcp sever
[20:40] <TomAstro> If anyone has the command line approach for updating the Nividia driver for Pozz  Please chime in.
[20:40] <pozz> well there is no additional drivers tab... if i go to settings, there is an option for additional drivers, but no tested driver selection available
[20:41] <Fudus> isn't it apt-get install nvidia-current-updates
[20:41] <pozz> I will try tha
[20:41] <pozz> t
[20:41] <BadRobot> Hi, is it appropriate to ask a ngix/php fpm related problem here?
[20:42] <Fudus> Probably better in #ubuntu-server
[20:42] <BadRobot> noted, thank you.
[20:42] <iori> re
[20:42] <ubun> thanls
[20:43] <TomAstro> pozz:  (Grab the Proprietary, tested)
[20:43] <TomAstro> Just got a Tele call brb
[20:44] <pozz> TomAstro, I will see if I can take a screen shot of that I am using
[20:45] <Fudus> nvidia-current-updates didn't work?
[20:45] <pozz> I probobly need a restart to see if they did
[20:45] <TomAstro> yep
[20:47] <pozz> http://picpaste.com/JR1JUNZI.png
[20:47] <pozz> that is what my additional drivers windows looks like
[20:47] <thanouris> who can guide me to create abootable usb?
[20:47] <bekks> !usb | thanouris
 Startup Disk Creator
[20:48] <pozz> Anyways, I am going to try a reboot to see if nvidia-current-updates worked
[20:48] <pozz> brb
[20:49] <DrGrov> Is there any good sensor monitor for HDD, CPU temp, mobo temp etc. in 13.10, preferrably with a GUI? I got info from #ubuntu-fi about lm-sensors buit I would love to get a GUI.
[20:50] <bekks> DrGrov: conky :)
[20:50] <Fudus> psensor
[20:50] <DrGrov> bekks: Aah, conky :)
[20:50] <DrGrov> Fudus: psensor has a gui? :)
[20:50] <DrGrov> bekks: Unfortunately I am past the days I need to tweak ;-)
[20:51] <Fudus> Yes
[20:51] <DrGrov> bekks: But conky is still probably the best tool I have ever used :)
[20:51] <DrGrov> Fudus: Thanks, I will test psensor then to see what my mobo is doing and how hot it is.
[20:51] <thanouris> i want to try it with another distro
[20:51] <bekks> DrGrov: conky doesnt tweak - it just displays stuff :)
[20:51] <DrGrov> bekks: Yes of course but I used it in order to tweak other stuff with other programs so to speak :)
[20:53] <lapidary> I setup an email server on a vhost and I can only send, inbound mail is bounced back as 550 relay not permitted
[20:53] <lapidary> how do I find out more
[20:53] <TomAstro> pozz:  That looks correct.  Sorry I got a tele call, but off now.
[20:53] <Fudus> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/postfix.html
[20:53] <DrGrov> bekks: I am a bit curious to know how this Asrock X79 Extreme 3 mobo will really handle temperatures I set as a limit before it activates the fans. Manually did the cpu fan to 3(9 maximum) and 55 degrees C to keep it a bit more silent.
[20:55] <lapidary> Fudus: thanks, but I'm on sendmail not postfix
[20:56] <DrGrov> psensor is probably laggish. It just froze on me :(
[20:57] <Fudus> sendmail isn't officially supported by Ubuntu, so you'll probably need to go to #sendmail
[20:57] <lapidary> didn't now that.  I'll give that a try!
[20:58] <Fudus> Not possible to go to postfix i suppose?
[20:58] <Fudus> As it is the  official email it'd probably be easier to use on Ubuntu
[20:58] <lapidary> sure, you think that would be better
[20:59] <lapidary> ok; since i have other problems with sendmail, I'll switch
[20:59] <kyle__> lapidary: sendmail doesn't get much love from anyone anymore.
[20:59] <lapidary> maybe it's the messy config files
[21:01] <kyle__> lapidary: Do you have a reason to avoid postfix, or to stay with sendmail?
[21:01] <DrGrov> bekks: Conky it is, this psensor was just utterly laggish and did not leave me any choice to alter settings without freezing up on me and forcing the kill switch.
[21:01] <lapidary> sendmail isn't working; it's not accepting my ssl key, and it's not receiving emails
[21:02] <lapidary> that's reason enough to try another tool for me
[21:02] <kyle__> Good reason.  Postfix and exim are much easier to deal with.
[21:03] <DrGrov> How can I purge psensor easily and get rid of the additional packages it installed for me?
[21:03] <kyle__> DrGrov: apt-get purge psensor
[21:04] <TomAstro> lapidary:  are you looking for an easy to set up and use Email client?
[21:04] <kyle__> DrGrov: Or something like that.  Purge removes the package & it's settings files, temp stuff, etc, where remove leaves them.  After that, you run, apt-get autoremove.
[21:04] <lapidary> TomAstro: no, just want to setup an email server.
[21:04] <DrGrov> kyle__: Ok, apt-get autoremove after and it removes hddtemp and psensor-common then. Thanks.
[21:05] <TomAstro> Ahhh  okis the otherway around.
[21:05] <lapidary> TomAstro: easy is always good though! :-)
[21:05] <kyle__> DrGrov: Never used psensor, is it a GUI or CLI monitor?
[21:06] <DrGrov> kyle__: A GUI monitor but buggish. Could not access preferences without it freezing and forcing a killall on it.
[21:06] <zykotick9> kyle__: "apt-cache depends psensor" would show you
[21:07] <TomAstro> lapidary:  I can post you a google link for a few if you want
[21:08] <DrGrov> What would be the best file system to use for a USB 3.0 16GB flash drive, maybe both used in 13.10 and in Windows machines?
[21:08] <bekks> DrGrov: FAT32.
[21:08] <lapidary> I think I'll go with postfix
[21:08] <DrGrov> bekks: But limits to 4GB file size?
[21:08] <bekks> DrGrov: Yes.
[21:09] <DrGrov> bekks: Is there anything else than FAT32 I could format to to get rid of the 4GB file size limitation?
[21:09] <wilee-nilee> DrGrov, You can use a nfts if needed
[21:09] <wilee-nilee> ntfs*
[21:09] <bekks> DrGrov: NTFS, but ntfs write support in linux is pretty slow.
[21:09] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: What are the disadvantages with that?
[21:09] <DrGrov> bekks: Ah roger that.
[21:09] <kyle__> DrGrov: extfat. Not as hideous as fat32, not as bad linux support asn ntfs
[21:09] <lapidary> TomAstro: For the most part I want to say I have my own email server.  Anything else (SpamAssen, AV software, fancy config) is just nice.
[21:09] <ferruccio> ciao
[21:09] <DrGrov> bekks: FAT32 it is then. Mostly documents and small stuff anyhow on it, not exceeding 4GB anyhow probably.
[21:10] <wilee-nilee> DrGrov, I have seen none myself I have a 2Tb external with ntfs.
[21:10] <DrGrov> bekks: GParted to the rescue then in formatting the 16GB? It was used for a Win8 OEM Recovery I tried
[21:10] <TomAstro> lapidary:  There is Zimbra, iRedMail, PostfixCompleteVirtualMailSystem and Atmail to name a few
[21:10] <bekks> DrGrov: Yeah, probably.
[21:10] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: Okay, so NTFS is still then probably the best.
[21:11] <DrGrov> bekks: Ok. Can a 8GB flash memory card be formatted as well within Gparted?
[21:11] <pozz> Hi guys
[21:11] <wilee-nilee> DrGrov, best is a subjective, if you want bigger that 4 gig files it seems appropriate.
[21:11] <TomAstro> pozz:  how did you make out with that driver issue?
[21:11] <kyle__> :/  the avg live cd doesn't support ext4 or xfs.  WTF?
[21:11] <kyle__> DrGrov: Yes.
[21:12] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: Yes, somehow bigger than 4GB is not essential for the 16GB USB stick but it will probably be essential later for an external drive.
[21:12] <pozz> I am back, just wanted to say that nvidia update thing did not work
[21:12] <DrGrov> bekks: About conky, it is GUI?
[21:12] <wilee-nilee> kyle__, This is a worldwide channel crossing cultural and ethnic boundaries does swearing seem appropriate here?
[21:12] <pozz> it caused my computer to not boot up.. just a flashing white cursor at the top left of my screen
[21:12] <TomAstro> Hmmmm  That is odd what is the type of NVidia card there?
[21:13] <Fudus> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpConky has a guide
[21:13] <kyle__> wilee-nilee: Did I say the em-ess word?  Sorry.
[21:13] <TomAstro> Ohhhhh   Hang on just the flasher?
[21:13] <pozz> quadro 2000 and a quadro 4000
[21:13] <wilee-nilee> kyle__, an acronym
[21:13] <Fudus> ctrl-alt-f1 and do a apt-get remove nvidia*
[21:13] <DrGrov> bekks: It does not seem to give a GUI for Conky. :(
[21:13] <TomAstro> How are you looking at the vidio  HDMI, DVI or VGA out?
[21:13] <wjtaylor> I think my dd image that I'm trying to restore is corrupt. I've been looking at it through a hex editor and it's got the mbr, then it has what it seems is the primary partition. There are 4 partition entries on this disk. 1 primary, 1 extended, and 2 logical volumes in the extended. At the end of the primary partition (end partition block * 512) I see FILE* in the hex editor, I see it for the other logical volume as well, but then
[21:13] <wjtaylor> there's more. Am I calculating the byte offset correctly ending block * 512. (This is a 512 byte sector drive.)
[21:14] <Fudus> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery doesn't help i suppose?
[21:14] <TomAstro> pozz:  How are you looking at the vidio  HDMI, DVI or VGA out?
[21:15] <pozz> display port
[21:15] <Fudus> Then you can reboot to get back
[21:15] <DrGrov> Is there any way to check which USB port I am using with my keyboard? I want to verify that it is not a USB 3.0 port in the front.
[21:15] <TomAstro> Do you have one or two monitors?
[21:15] <pozz> one monitor
[21:15] <kyle__> DrGrov: I thought lsusb -v showed some of the information.
[21:15] <Fudus> lsusb
[21:16] <logic_prog> I'm runnning a server on ubuntu and need to simulate dropped connections. Is there a linux tool that will randomly close / re-open port 8080 ?
[21:16] <TomAstro> Do you have a vga 9 pin out on that card?
[21:16] <pozz> hummm, dont know about that
[21:16] <pozz> I will see
[21:16] <Fudus> What does Software-properties prop drivers have?
[21:16] <maujhsn> I Would like to know if installing "libpulse-dev" does anything to improve the quality of pulseaudio experience?
[21:16] <TomAstro> pozz:  Why I ask is that it may be ouputting a VGA signal that is fine at the same time it is outputting a blank digital .
[21:17] <kyle__> logic_prog: Shouldn't be hard to lash togeather a script to block and unblock the port using iptables.
[21:17] <MonkeyDust> logic_prog  there's also #ubuntu-server
[21:17] <TomAstro> I have ran into that here with my 42 inch screen
[21:17] <logic_prog> yeah, but that requires using sudo
[21:17] <kyle__> maujhsn: that will just install the header files.
[21:17] <TomAstro> Hapozz:  Hang on let me check something
[21:17] <jerjunds> Hi
[21:17] <maujhsn> kyle_ Then what/
[21:18] <pozz> hummm
[21:18] <DrGrov> kyle__: kyle__ That does show up the keyboard but nothing definite if it is USB 3.0 or 2.0.
[21:18] <pozz> I see
[21:18] <TomAstro> pozz:   Hang on let me check something
[21:18] <pozz> okay
[21:18] <kyle__> maujhsn: The -dev packages contain header files, and sometimes a few other small things necessary to compile and link programs against a particularly library.
[21:18] <Fudus> The -dev packages are for when you want to compile something
[21:18] <kyle__> DrGrov: When it talks about the USB ports, it probalby says if their uhci/ehci or something else... look for that part.  I forget what the usb3 standard's name is.
[21:18] <TomAstro> pozz: Are there two cards there a 2000 and a 4000?
[21:19] <Fudus> usb3 have a larger socket if I remember correctly
[21:19] <pozz> TomAstro, yes, and they both have vga available
[21:19] <pozz> I am plugged into the 2000, but they are hooked up internally to work together
[21:19] <maujhsn> kyle_ If I install it via synaptic package manager It does the compiling for me right?
[21:19] <DrGrov> kyle__: Ok, I have the possibility to look it through in the UEFI Bios GUI but can not seem to get a grip of if the front panel ports are 3.0 or 2.0.
[21:19] <kyle__> Fudus: Not on the PC end.  It's the same mechanically, but manfucaturers color it blue (except for apple, because they're apple).
[21:19] <Fudus> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lenovo_x220.jpg for the difference
[21:19] <TomAstro> Okis hang on  I doubt it but in may be a driver conflict between the 2k and 4k series
[21:19] <DrGrov> kyle__: The mobo manual says the front pane ones are a USB 3.0 header (2x 3.0)
[21:20] <kyle__> maujhsn: No.  It just gives you the files necessary for compiling.
[21:20] <pozz> I dont think so, this happends to my other computer as well that is a GTX? 680
[21:20] <zykotick9> pozz: have you tried nomodeset?
[21:20] <pozz> no...
[21:20] <zykotick9> !nomodeset | pozz
[21:20] <kyle__> DrGrov: There used to be a gnome-tool that showed what was attached where, but I haven't looked at it in over a decade.
[21:21] <pozz> I see...
[21:21] <maujhsn> kyle_Would you happen to have that installed in any of your distros?
[21:21] <Fudus> So blue is USB3, ok then :P
[21:21] <frog_> is ubuntu able to play 5.1 audio over spdif?
[21:21] <TomAstro> pozz:  lol  the bot beat me to it.   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[21:22] <DrGrov> kyle__: On the other hand now when I come to think about it does not really matter :) I got 2x 3.0 then in front if that is the case and 2x 3.0 in the back. Can I safely unplug the keyboard right now and just plug it in the back without any major crash issues? LOL
[21:22] <bekks> DrGrov: That should work.
[21:22] <kyle__> maujhsn: Probably not.  I dont generally compile desktop apps, and pulse, jack and all the rest aggravate me to no end, so I try and not look at them.
[21:22] <BuntuLover> Is it possible to change the Ubuntu splash screen?
[21:22] <DrGrov> bekks: So I can safely remove the keyboard and re-plug it in the back?
[21:22] <TomAstro> zykotick9:    Thanks,  was digging for that.
[21:22]  * kyle__ prefers using just alsa drivers, and NO sound daemon or other oberblown system.
[21:22] <bekks> DrGrov: Yes.
[21:23] <DrGrov> bekks: Testing.
[21:23] <Slade-> so, recommendations on asp.net for mono... fastcgi or the xsp?
[21:23]  * DrGrov is running already in case there is an explosion
[21:23] <maujhsn> kyle_ thanks!
[21:23] <zykotick9> kyle__: if you use a DE, trying to remove pulse is really not worth the effort IMO
[21:23] <bekks> DrGrov: You can run, but you cannot hide :P
[21:23] <pozz> Not sure if nomodeset is what I am looking for... could it fix this: http://i.stack.imgur.com/5ETmD.jpg
[21:23] <DrGrov> bekks: LOL :)
[21:24] <TomAstro> Sometimes you can hook up a standard vga display and bingo Bob's your uncle
[21:24] <DrGrov> bekks: I just decided to re-plug in the front, to the right one instead so I am more comfortable with plugging in some other USB device in the front :)
[21:24]  * DrGrov is extremely lazy
[21:24] <kyle__> zykotick9: I know.  That's why I try and ignore it.  If I messed with it, I'd be in a foul mood, and probably yell at kids to get off my lawn.
[21:25] <TomAstro> pozz:  I have had that here and as soon as I set up all the video via the vga signal, reboot and all is well
[21:25] <pozz> I see... isent vga lower quality then display port?
[21:27] <pozz> maybe reinstalling ubuntu-desktop might help? is the line to type apt-get reinstall ubuntu-desktop?
[21:27] <TomAstro> pozz: yep.  Well at least I found that here with my TV.  I'm luckey that this 42 incher has a vga input as well as composite, DVI and HDMI
[21:27] <bekks> pozz: No, thats a meta package only.
[21:27] <pozz> well I think I have a vga to display port adapter laying around somewhere, but playing a 1080p movie onto my 55in may not look as great
[21:28] <TomAstro> pozz: not that I know of but it will dedfualt to that Noveau driver.  You can blacklist that driver also
[21:28] <TomAstro> default^
[21:28] <maujhsn> Guys! best line of the day! "http://i.stack.imgur.com/5ETmD.jpg"
[21:28] <pozz> lol why?
[21:29] <maujhsn> Just saying lol!
[21:29] <pozz> its not lol, I have been having this problem for over a month, I can not dist-upgrade with out it breaking...
[21:29] <pozz> I hate it.
[21:30] <maujhsn> Sorry pal lol!
[21:30] <bekks> pozz: Did you try to use the nvidia driver from the repos?
[21:30] <auronandace> !lol
[21:30] <pozz> bekks, yes
[21:30] <DrGrov> bekks: That did the trick. Now I got it formatted as fat32.
[21:30] <pozz> I tryed 1000 things, I dont think it is a graphics problem it think it is a setting somewhere
[21:30] <TomAstro> pozz:  hang in there I am going to give you the info on how to black list that oddball Noveau driver
[21:31] <DrGrov> Always a nuisance to use GParted, scary stuff in case something goes horribly wrong.
[21:31] <bekks> DrGrov: Then create a backup before...
[21:31] <wilee-nilee> pozz, What release is this?
[21:31] <pozz> okay
[21:31] <pozz> 12.04
[21:31] <maujhsn> ubottu this is scary your sounding HUMAN!
[21:32] <wilee-nilee> pozz, There are resets for unity and compiz, if when using the repos driver I would run it.
[21:32] <pozz> tryed both
[21:32] <pozz> I reset everything I could find and rebooted... nothing ever solved this problem, it drives me crazy
[21:32] <MonkeyDust> maujhsn  next: ubottu will start reproducing
[21:33] <bekks> MonkeyDust: Yeah, but whom? ;)
[21:33] <pozz> I ever took a backup of compiz on a computer I have that works fine and loaded it into this computer, never helped
[21:33] <fishduck> dash shows no search results. I purged unity-lens-* to get rid of the spyware. Did that also remove its local-search functionality?
[21:33] <wilee-nilee> pozz, The dist-upgrade generally is a kernel upgrade, can you, or would you find some link to that and your problem, generally that is the issue
[21:34] <zykotick9> fishduck: lol, that was the issue.  local searches where being send to ubuntu...
[21:34] <fishduck> zykotick9: being sent to amazon, mind you.
[21:35] <wilee-nilee> pozz,Try a kernel where this is not happening in the grub menu maybe.
[21:35] <maujhsn> MonkeyDust It's scary, and no hahaha!
[21:35] <Rory> I have a folder full of files named as numbers, how can I rename them to "pad" the numbers to double digits? ie 1.txt becomes 01.txt, etc?
[21:35] <pozz> well I have a backup so I can just use it, but I want to use the most updated kernel
[21:37] <TomAstro> pozz:  left a PM for youy
[21:38] <wilee-nilee> pozz, It's not that you have to use an earlier kernel but finding correlations, rather than random hypothesis.
[21:39] <wilee-nilee> pozz, commonly called the scientific method, hehe
[21:39] <Slade-> hmm.. no config to automatically start up mono-fastcgi eh
[21:40] <Slade-> err, no package
[21:40] <pozz> okay, good point.
[21:40] <arseny> me4oslav
[21:41] <pozz> well I just restored my computer, so I am waiting for dist-upgrade to finish, then I am going to try blacklisting the noveau driver... if that fails, I will get grub to start and try a different kernel
[21:43] <HelloWorld321> The latest version is Saucy Salamander, and it's been fully live for less than a month?
[21:43] <itsnotlupus> I wish the ubuntu updater thingy would stop thinking that it's totally cool to update my tuxonice kernel with a generic kernel.
[21:44] <kyle__> itsnotlupus: pin.
[21:44] <itsnotlupus> hmm maybe I need to explicitly uninstall them generics
[21:44] <itsnotlupus> kyle__, grenade?
[21:44] <itsnotlupus> we ARE doing free word association, right?
[21:45] <therazr> HelloWorld321: yes
[21:45] <zykotick9> !pin | itsnotlupus
[21:45] <itsnotlupus> so.. no grenades? :'(
[21:45] <kyle__> itsnotlupus: You pin packages in apt :)  See ubott's comment.
[21:45] <itsnotlupus> alright thanks!
[21:46] <alfonsojon> Hey guys
[21:46] <kyle__> itsnotlupus: No gernades.  Unless that's slang for a manly version of a girly-drink.
[21:46] <alfonsojon> Anyone on 13.10 having issues with freezing?
[21:46] <alfonsojon> Nouveau seems to crap out quite a bit.
[21:46] <itsnotlupus> I like me some girly drinks.
[21:47] <HelloWorld321> I'm having issues upgrading to 13.10.  Mine says that it's failing to authenticate all the packages.
[21:47] <therazr> !upgrade |HelloWorld321
[21:48] <HelloWorld321> tx, ubottu
[21:48] <alfonsojon> I feel like I should have stayed on 12.04
[21:48] <alfonsojon> I'm considering reinstalling, actually
[21:48] <alfonsojon> 13.10 is fast, but stability suffers
[21:48] <zykotick9> therazr: you too ;)
[21:48] <itsnotlupus> alfonsojon, you could try embracing the dark side, and go proprietary with your drivers?
[21:48] <HelloWorld321> oh,hey : there's spcific sections for each upgrade; but no 13.04 to 13.10 section
[21:48] <alfonsojon> Already have
[21:48] <alfonsojon> Didn't like it.
[21:48] <alfonsojon> lol
[21:49] <itsnotlupus> it does feel dirty.
[21:49] <alfonsojon> It fixes the lockups, but oh boy is it ugly
[21:49] <alfonsojon> Plymouth is now stdout
[21:49] <therazr> HelloWorld321: you should follow this one http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/upgrade
[21:49] <Calinou> graphics driver issues, alfonsojon
[21:49] <alfonsojon> I like my graphical boot splash
[21:49] <alfonsojon> :(
[21:50] <Calinou> if it doesn't work, disable it in /etc/default/grub
[21:50] <fishduck> question: a privacy option in settings says "don not include online result". However, WILL my searches be sent online anyway? (even though they arent included in the search result)
[21:50] <HelloWorld321> k, tx therazr
[21:50] <Calinou> really, it's just 5-10 seconds where you don't do anything
[21:50] <alfonsojon> Oh, also I don't like the new Unity smart scope so much
[21:50] <alfonsojon> Thankfully, it can be disabled.
[21:50] <alfonsojon> :)
[21:59] <Thomas_> Hi  I updated to Ubuntu 13.10 and all apache virtual hosts have stopped working? They're all still listed in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled but when visiting any of them I see just the 'It works!' page
[21:59] <Thomas_> Help!
[21:59] <clifter> Running Ubuntu 13.10 - What would be a good equivalent of Acronis for cloning to a new hard drive?
[21:59] <Calinou> maybe CloneZilla
[21:59] <wilee-nilee> +1 clonezilla it saves the mbr
[22:00] <wilee-nilee> acronis does not
[22:00] <clifter> wilee-nilee: thanks
[22:01] <clifter> Calinou: thanks
[22:02] <Thomas_> Hi  I updated to Ubuntu 13.10 and all apache virtual hosts have stopped working? They're all still listed in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled but when visiting any of them I see just the 'It works!' page. Also there are virtual hosts in /etc/apache2/sites-available but if I 'a2ensite something' it says 'ERROR: Site does not exist'
[22:06] <branden> lel
[22:09] <arcsky> how do i kill xorg/gnome?
[22:09] <arcsky> from cli
[22:10] <minimec> arcsky: probably best is 'sudo service lightdm stop' if you are on a standard ubuntu installation.
[22:11] <minimec> arcsky: Afterwards 'sudo service lightdm start && exit'
[22:11] <wilee-nilee> pozz, The other thing I have noticed about using a dist-upgrade is it will by pass a partial upgrade which will show in the update manager gui. Run it and make sure you are not upgrading when this is showing.
[22:13] <jjavaholic> my ubuntu system is not picking up usb devices what could possibly be going wrong?
[22:13] <wilee-nilee> pozz, I had the vlc daily PPA running and this was causing a partial upgrade notice and messing with my upgrades in general.
[22:13] <sharpnel> 1
[22:14] <wilee-nilee> jjavaholic, Not showing if you run lsusb?
[22:14] <arcsky> minimec: thanks
[22:18] <glitsj16> Thomas_: have you seen http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2182652 ? Sounds very similar
[22:19] <Thomas_> Thanks glebihan
[22:19] <Thomas_> glitsj16, *
[22:28] <pozz> wilee-nilee. do you mean run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade? or run the GUI?
[22:28] <pozz> the gui does show the partial update thing (before I do dist-upgrade) and then fails to update anything. so thats why I run dist-upgrade
[22:29] <zykotick9> pozz: NEVER run a "partial" upgrade!  that means "your system will be broken"
[22:29] <vlad24bit> "sudo do-release-upgrade" you might have to purge ppas that directly affect the ubuntu framework
[22:30] <salvo> salve
[22:30] <salvo> ce nessuni
[22:30] <salvo> o
[22:31] <genii> !it | salvo
[22:32] <zykotick9> pozz: fyi, you can run "sudo aptitude safe-upgrade" to upgrade what IS possible... but in your case, i'm guess things are "broken" at this point... just fyi, for HOPEFULLY never again
[22:33] <pozz> okay, it does not let me do partial upgrade anways (unless dist-upgrade forces it)... i will put "sudo do-release-upgrade" on my list of things to do after i reboot
[22:33] <clifter> TomAstro: Thanks for links
[22:36] <jimgroth> Hey guys. What is the best way to do backups on Ubuntu Server?
[22:37] <MonkeyDust> jimgroth  rsync is fast
[22:37] <zykotick9> jimgroth: IMO, backup A) the data you want to save AND B) the config files you want to save - onto "other media".  YMMV
[22:38] <jimgroth> I'm pretty much a newbie. ^^
[22:39] <jimgroth> So far I've figured out that crontab is used to do periodic tasks
[22:39] <jimgroth> correct?
[22:39] <MonkeyDust> jimgroth  you can also create a cron task with all wildcards, to have realtime sync with a backup medium
[22:40] <lapidary> ah ha! my vhost is filtering smtp port for inbound email; I also know why tls wasn't working right as well, my signed cert is not recognized, I need to add startssl to the web of trust on postfix, or create a new self signed cert.
[22:40] <MonkeyDust> jimgroth  like so : * * * * * rsync [source] [dest]
[22:41] <geirha> MonkeyDust: Sounds dangerous
[22:41] <zykotick9> geirha: +1
[22:41]  * jimgroth tilts head
[22:41] <jimgroth> Why is that?
[22:41] <MonkeyDust> geirha  i tried it as a test (one folder to usb), it works
[22:44] <jimgroth> Would the "all star" thing risk doing it too often and bogging down the machine?
[22:44] <xangua> guys I can't mount a virgin cd-r , any advise¿
[22:45] <geirha> MonkeyDust: If the initial rsync takes more than one minute, you'll suddenly have two rsyncs trying to sync the same data, which will likely slow both of them, and if it takes more than two minutes, you'll have three rsyncs running ...
[22:45] <scienziata> jimroth, how often would you like your backup?
[22:45] <jimgroth> Once a day would be good
[22:46] <MonkeyDust> geirha  the actual example I found, was: */5 interval
[22:46] <Benkinooby> jimgroth: what do you use that server for? private toy or business?
[22:46] <scienziata> jimgroth, then replace all asterisks with "1      3       *       *       * "
[22:46] <jimgroth> Just learning
[22:47] <jimgroth> I do want to learn the right way to do things but for now I'm happy to just get data backed up.
[22:47] <melkor> Is saucy out now?
[22:47] <cloq> hey there, running 13.04 on Latitude E6430, my WiFi network card suddenly stopped seeing a particular WiFi network for some reason (other devices can see it just fine); networkmanager doesn't see it as well as `iwlist eth1 scanning`, any idea what might be going wrong?
[22:47] <jimgroth> scienziata: Thanks. I just figured out how to use crontab. :)
[22:47] <cloq> restart didn't help
[22:47] <cloq> and I can see other networks around
[22:47] <Benkinooby> jimgroth: may i suggest dirvish. it is made from crontab and rsync and combines those two in a very nice way. you controll drivish with easy to understand config files
[22:47] <glitsj16> melkor: it is yes
[22:47] <xangua> !saucy | melkor
[22:48] <jimgroth> Benkinooby: Thanks. I'll check it out. :)
[22:48] <melkor> Just noticed the latest mainline kernel has been bumped up to trusty.
[22:48] <Benkinooby> jimgroth: so dirvish is somewhere above raw rsync & crontab, but below fully blown backup solutions
[22:49] <geirha> MonkeyDust: Well, if we're taking gigabytes and a slow hard drive, it'll easily exceed five minutes
[22:49] <Benkinooby> jimgroth: there are business scale backup solutions in the repositories but i forgot their names. dirvish aims at advanced users and small business
[22:49] <Benkinooby> that's how i see it
[22:49] <Benkinooby> jimgroth: also if you're on a server you want tmux ;)
[22:49] <Benkinooby> jimgroth: it's like screen but better :)
[22:50] <jimgroth> Slow down. ^^
[22:50] <scienziata> jimgroth, if this is a directly connected harddrive, you could use "cp -R -p srcdir dstdir" instead of rsync
[22:50] <jimgroth> It's going to be a network drive
[22:50] <jimgroth> on a NAS
[22:50] <jimgroth> I managed to connect it but if there was a connection issue my system would freeze. >.<
[22:50] <zykotick9> scienziata: even locally, i'd say rsync is better choice then cp...
[22:52] <jimgroth> Thanks for the help guys. I'll be sure to come back with followup questions after reading up a bit and playing on the VM. :)
[22:53] <DrGrov> bekks: Still there? About Conky, does the default repo supply a GUI version of it?
[22:56] <Benkinooby> DrGrov: conky is for gui
[22:57] <Benkinooby> DrGrov: it will blend in to your desktop background/wallpaper
[22:58] <zykotick9> Benkinooby: there is a conky-cli btw.
[23:01] <cyso> hello call can somebody tell how i install a older kernel with dkms
[23:02] <bekks> cyso: On Manjaro?
[23:02] <cyso> no lubuntu
[23:03] <bekks> cyso: then pastebin uname -a and lsb_release -a please, so we know which lubuntu you are on actually.
[23:04] <DrGrov> Benkinooby: Ah okay. That is great, I shall download it right away then. Want to check up on CPU temperature etc.
[23:04] <DrGrov> Benkinooby: Thanks.
[23:05] <cyso> http://pastie.org/8468703
[23:05] <Ubnoobtu> Hey all, Can someone point me in the right direction of changing user account passwords, and enabling t so when the laptop reboots, it doesn't log in automatically?
[23:06] <ziyagi> Does anyone know if wubi will be supported for the next LTS release? Or is that whole idea dead now
[23:06] <zykotick9> ziyagi: it's dead...
[23:07] <cyso> no output if i tipe lsb_release
[23:07] <bekks> cyso: type: lsb_release -a
[23:07] <Anon1> with 'users and groups' from the menu...? @ubnoobtu
[23:07] <zykotick9> cyso: no output or "No LSB modules are available."?  if the later, try "lsb_release -a"
[23:08] <cyso> http://pastie.org/8468708
[23:08] <cyso> i got it
[23:09] <cyso> i want to install in 2 new kernels so that i can choice it in grub
[23:09] <minimec> Ubnoobtu: To disable autologin 'sudo gedit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf' delete the name on the 'autologin-user=' line
[23:09] <Anon1> toooooo late XD @minimec
[23:10] <cyso> i know that works with dkms perfektly
[23:10] <minimec> Anon1: Yeah... Sh.. happens
[23:11] <minimec> Anon1: 2nd part would have been 'man passwd' and 'man adduser', but ...
[23:12] <cyso> bekks? do u know how to install 2 kernels so that i can choice it in grub with dkms
[23:12] <cyso> http://pastie.org/8468715
[23:13] <bekks> install dkms, install the kernels as usual.
[23:13] <zykotick9> cyso: ahhh, dkms is kernel module support... which is used to build modules for that kernel.  it's not used to boot other kernels...
[23:13] <cyso> dkms i installed but i dont kow how i do install in terminal the kernels
[23:14] <cyso> i need the 3.10 and 3.5
[23:14] <bekks> cyso: those arent available for 13.10
[23:15] <cyso> oh ok
[23:15] <minimec> cyso: If you use linux-image deb packages, just install the package. If you have modules to add (like Virtualbox), you also need the linux-headers, for the explicit kernel version and the kernel series.
[23:16] <minimec> cyso: Let's say you want the 'saucy' 3.12 kernel, look here ... http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.12-saucy/
[23:16] <ikonia> or don't do that
[23:17] <ikonia> as you shouldn't be mixing kenrel versions, or unpatched versions unless you really understand the implications
[23:17] <redixot> hi all, plz help me i was upgrading my ubuntu 13.4 to 13.10 but decided to turn off the pc halfway thru the update coz i had to leave, now when i log into my ubuntu everythings messed up and keep getting erorr mesages, many stuff missing, how can i re upgrade? i have dualboot w/ windows. thx
[23:17] <snake_> Hello, i know it's the wrong channel to ask but i still ask
[23:17] <minimec> cyso: ikonia: I agree...
[23:17] <snake_> if i want to mount a cifs share on raspberry pi running Xbian, i get error code 13
[23:17] <ikonia> snake_: then don't
[23:18] <snake_> BUT if i run it with -o sec=ntlmv2 it works fine
[23:18] <ikonia> snake_: if you know it's the wrong channel, please don't ask, use the right channel
[23:18] <Eth0R3> heya
[23:18] <snake_> ikonia: the guys in #xbian are idle
[23:18] <ikonia> snake_: sorry, that's not this channels problem to pickup the slack
[23:18] <Eth0R3> need some help here, how can i disable permanently the lock screen on gnome 3.10 using ubuntu 13.10
[23:18] <Eth0R3> anyone can help please
[23:19] <cyso> minimec those are deb files so i dont have to run in terminal?
[23:20] <dannymichel> What channel would I go to for help with this? http://goo.gl/xFlnIO
[23:20] <cyso> dobleklick is enough
[23:20] <fishscene> Eth0R3: https://www.google.com/#q=how+to+disable+lock+screen+on+gnome+3.10
[23:20] <minimec> cyso: There are multiple possibilities for installation with GUI or Terminal.
[23:21] <redixot> hi all, i was upgrading my ubuntu 13.4 to 13.10 but decided to turn off the pc halfway thru the update coz i had to leave, now when i log into my ubuntu everythings messed up and keep getting erorr mesages, many stuff missing, how can i re upgrade? i have dualboot w/ windows. thx
[23:22] <Eth0R3> fishscene: ive tryed allmost everyting using google search
[23:22] <Eth0R3> and nothing, i search before ask here!
[23:23] <phong_> hi guys, is there any 3d benchmark for ubuntu?
[23:23] <fishscene> Eth0R3: Did you reboot your computer after making the changes?
[23:23] <Eth0R3> yes
[23:23] <Eth0R3> and still the same
[23:23] <Eth0R3> the annoying thing is that i am watching flash stream and after X min it switches to the lock
[23:24] <reisio> phong_: glxgears
[23:24] <fishscene> Eth0R3: You've tried: dconf-editor
[23:24] <fishscene> /org/gnome/desktop/lockdown/disable-lock-screen
[23:24] <Eth0R3> yes
[23:25] <minimec> Eth0R3: That should be possible with dconf-editor. Look in >org>gnome>desktop>lockdown
[23:25] <fishscene> Eth0R3: apparently it is a known bug, but not many people know how to resolve it. More info here: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1336052
[23:26] <Eth0R3> there is no lockdown on dcon
[23:26] <Eth0R3> dconf
[23:26] <Eth0R3> i ve saw that page
[23:26] <minimec> Eth0R3: hmm... screensaveer?
[23:26] <Eth0R3> too
[23:26] <Eth0R3> i am trying to run on startup gnome-screensave
[23:33] <pc-world> What's up with ppa.launchpad.net? Getting an extremely low download speed.
[23:33] <f3ck4r> you want to disable or enable the screensaver?!
[23:34] <BuntuLover> pc-World: Not sure.
[23:34] <pc-world> so can others reproduce this?
[23:35] <BuntuLover> pc-world:  Will try to download a package from PPA now.
[23:35] <pc-world> BuntuLover: I'm trying to upgrade xorg-edgers and get between 10-80 kB/s
[23:36] <pc-world> "ping ppa.launchpad.net" leads to a domain called haetae.canonical.com, don't know if that's normal or not
[23:36] <BuntuLover> Canonical owns Launchpad.
[23:37] <pc-world> well, I know that, but I'm not sure if the subdomain has always been that one
[23:37] <glitsj16> pc-world: they suffered a major power outage yesterday.. might still be shaky
[23:38] <pc-world> glitsj16: that might explain it, thanks
[23:38] <BuntuLover> pc-world: I think that has always been the subdomain but not entirely sure. and glitsj16 is right.
[23:41] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys i just ran i dist-upgrade and it updated to the newest kernal but now when i boot ubuntu
[23:41] <Psil0Cybin> i get a blackscreen
[23:41] <Psil0Cybin> i had the previous kernal update prior to updating
[23:41] <Psil0Cybin> my machine is always up to date but i never got a blackscreen from updating
[23:42] <pc-world> Psil0Cybin: what Ubuntu release are you on?
[23:42] <Psil0Cybin> 12.04 lts
[23:43] <Psil0Cybin> it shows the ubuntu splash screen then i just get a blackscreen :S
[23:43] <Psil0Cybin> its so odd
[23:43] <Psil0Cybin> so i have to go back to the previous kernal version to get back in
[23:44] <pc-world> Psil0Cybin: what graphics driver?
[23:45] <Psil0Cybin> pc-world: i am unsure i am using an aspire one acer D270-1628
[23:46] <pc-world> Psil0Cybin: so Intel probably
[23:47] <minimec> Psil0Cybin: pc-world: 'lspci | grep VGA' to be sure...
[23:48] <Psil0Cybin> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Atom Processor D2xxx/N2xxx Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[23:48] <pc-world> I'm not on 12.04, I don't know from which kernel version to which one they updated
[23:48] <Psil0Cybin> how can o find out so i can show u
[23:48] <Psil0Cybin> because i am so mind boggled.
[23:48] <Psil0Cybin> i forgot to write it down when i booted in to the previous kernal
[23:49] <minimec> Psil0Cybin: 'uname -a' 'cat /etc/issue'
[23:49] <Psil0Cybin> Linux stashb0x 3.2.0-55-generic-pae #85-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 2 14:03:15 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[23:49] <Psil0Cybin> Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l
[23:50] <Psil0Cybin> is what those both commands stated.
[23:50] <Psil0Cybin> the old kernal version works perfectly
[23:50] <Psil0Cybin> i dunno what they changed >.<
[23:50]  * Psil0Cybin rabbles rabbles.
[23:51] <minimec> Psil0Cybin: Try to boot the previous kernel. Hold the left <shift> key right after the computer Boot screen and choose a different kernel.
[23:51] <Psil0Cybin> i did
[23:51] <Psil0Cybin> thats how im talkning to you now
[23:51] <Psil0Cybin> it works perfectly
[23:51] <Psil0Cybin> i just dont like using outdated kernal versions
[23:51] <HeathHayle> How to I connect to a non authica samba share?
[23:51] <Psil0Cybin> unless your suggesting to use it? for now..
[23:52] <Psil0Cybin> someone said there is a command before i could execute that would fixs this problem
[23:52] <Psil0Cybin> but i cannot find a source of it on the forums :S
[23:52] <pc-world> Psil0Cybin: I guess the kernel update was a bug and/or security fix release, so very surprising that it had the effects you're describing
[23:53] <pc-world> too bad it's pretty difficult to get a decent release history from the repos
[23:53] <Psil0Cybin> darn
[23:54] <Psil0Cybin> so what can i do pc-world?
[23:54] <Psil0Cybin> do you guys suggest i stick to an older version?
[23:54] <Psil0Cybin> perhaps post on the forums?
[23:54] <pc-world> Psil0Cybin: I don't know really; so the screen blacks out as soon as unity-greeter would usually appear?
[23:54] <Psil0Cybin> yea
[23:54] <Psil0Cybin> instead of the login screen
[23:54] <Psil0Cybin> i get a blackscreen
[23:54] <Psil0Cybin> usually before i would get a terminal login
[23:54] <Psil0Cybin> that would suggest startx failed or startxfce4
[23:55] <Psil0Cybin> but now i just get a blackscreen as if my laptop is not working
[23:55] <Psil0Cybin> but it is...
[23:55] <Psil0Cybin> because previous kernal versions work perfect.
[23:55] <pc-world> Psil0Cybin: you might want to file a bug on Launchpad; can you switch to a tty after the screen blacks out?
[23:56] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: Did you already use the nomodeset kernel option?
[23:56] <pc-world> and can you reboot via Alt+Print+B, to rule out a kernel freeze? (though pretty unlikely)?
[23:57] <FuZi0N> hmmm
[23:57] <FuZi0N> im getting this error
[23:57] <FuZi0N> RTNETLINK answes: File exists
[23:57] <FuZi0N> Failed to bring up eth0.
[23:57] <FloodBot1> FuZi0N: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:57] <FuZi0N> how can i fix this?
[23:57] <FuZi0N> i tried googling it but most ppl have the problem with multiple gateways
[23:57] <FuZi0N> however, i only have 1
[23:57] <Psil0Cybin> no no no
[23:57] <Psil0Cybin> someone suggested a nomodset
[23:57] <Psil0Cybin> kernal option
[23:57] <Psil0Cybin> how do i go about doing that
[23:57] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:58] <bekks> !nomodeset | Psil0Cybin
[23:59] <Psil0Cybin> okayt perfect im going to ry it and report back