[03:57] <billybigrigger> waglap::: you could always run windows inside ubuntu through a virtual machine like i said about 5 times
[03:57] <FUbbyCD> Package `xorg.conf' is not installed and no info is available.
[03:57] <FUbbyCD> Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
[03:57] <blind> Dr_Willis: That works?  I never tried it.
[03:57] <billybigrigger> waglap::: easy, install virtual box
[03:57] <FUbbyCD> np
[03:57] <office> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:57] <office> with sudo
[03:57] <FUbbyCD> that would be it
[03:57] <FUbbyCD> thanks
[03:57] <waglap> ok billybigrigger I will give it a go
[03:57] <yoyoned> mikea: what type of file are you trying to open.  Can you just use openoffice
[03:57] <Dr_Willis> blind:  but that was the core of the idea.. assoicate the .torrent with the 'usetorrent.sh' script
[03:58] <mikea> yoyoned: OpenOffice works, but meh, I prefer office 2k7 :-)
[03:58] <teapot> Hey guys. Can anyone help me get UPnP working with Android and XBMC on Jaunty? UPnP was already enabled in the router and I enabled it in XBMC but AndroMote still fails to pick up on the server.
[03:58] <mikea> I atleast want it to be an "Open With..." option for files that don't open right in oo.rg
[03:59] <newuser> waglap what windows/vista apps are you needing or wanting to run?  Gaming?  Work programs?
[03:59] <FUbbyCD> lemme log in and out
[03:59] <office> Chaorain, maybe you smothing doing not rihght installing grub
[03:59] <vertagano> mikea: If you open the menu launchers in a text editor, you should be able to see the commandline used to launch Word....
[04:00] <mikea> vertagano: yeah, I was just hoping that there was a way to use the launcher
[04:00] <beornlake> anyone able to answer some networking questions for Server?
[04:00] <jaypur> so, to remove vista and put ubuntu, i need to locate a space, and then boot with ubuntu?
[04:00] <billybigrigger> beornlake::: #ubuntu-server ???
[04:00] <office> hehe
[04:00] <mattgyver> Is there a similar command like dir /p, or dir /w in msdos, for terminal??
[04:01] <office> mattgyver, comands | more
[04:01] <beornlake> billybigrigger thanks
[04:01] <office> or less
[04:01] <Drastic> jaypur: install XP over vista
[04:01] <Drastic> jaypur: leave a partition to install ubuntu on
[04:01] <office> mattgyver, ls -las |more
[04:01] <Drastic> jaypur: If you want to dual boot between XP and ubuntu, that is
[04:01] <office> example
[04:02] <teapot> Excuse me, can anyone help me get UPnP working?
[04:02] <jaypur> Drastic, ive tried but it got a problem... but if i do the patition way, will it be ok?
[04:02] <Drastic> jaypur: What was the problem?
[04:02] <poningru> teapot, what are you trying to do?
[04:02] <civpro> how do i start gnome desktop?
[04:02] <jaypur> Drastic, it wasnt installing any of those systems (xp and ubuntu)
[04:02] <XiXaQ> mattgyver, everything and anything you can find in ms-dos is available in ubuntus terminal, and much more. Different syntaxes and command names though :)
[04:03] <jaypur> Drastic, now i got a full partition free, and another with vista....
[04:03] <zeltikon> i just installed an osx theme for ubuntu. is there a way to get the close, min, and max buttons on the left side of the window frame?
[04:03] <bronyaur> will gdesklets ever work with 9.04??
[04:03] <Drastic> jaypur: OK, so stick your XP disc in, reboot and install XP like you would normally. When you get to the partitioning bit delete all your partitions, then create a new one for XP and leave the rest of the space free
[04:03] <office> XiXaQ, 80% person on this # never see msdos
[04:03] <office> ;)
[04:03] <civpro> how do i start the gnome desktop?
[04:03] <criminy> !pulseaudio
[04:03] <teapot> poningru: I'm trying to get my Android phone to control the XBMC media center. According to the website it works, but it provides no instructions whatsoever and Google has been unhelpful.
[04:04] <XiXaQ> office, I'm sure :)
[04:04] <poningru> uh...
[04:04] <Drastic> jaypur: Then when you install ubuntu you should create a new partition in the free space (don't install side by side, create a new partition for it)
[04:04] <jaypur> Drastic, yeah, thats my plan, let me see if it works now.... ill let ya know!
[04:04] <poningru> you have xbmc running on ubuntu or an xbox?
[04:04] <Drastic> jaypur: Good luck :P
[04:04] <chuck_> civpro, gdm start
[04:04] <civpro> chuck thanks
[04:05] <Drastic> jaypur: I did it the other day, actually, but not over Vista
[04:05] <jaypur> Dragnslcr, for real man, thats really sux, we buy a new pc, and we got that crap... vista...
[04:05] <teapot> poningru: I'm using AndroMote. Or rather, trying to.
[04:05] <chuck_> civpro, wait start gdm sorry
[04:05] <civpro> oh ok
[04:05] <danes_> hello, I need help. I had the disk full, then I made some space, but the free space is not being recognized and therefore is not available. What can I do? look -> http://i43.tinypic.com/2q83fc4.png
[04:05] <jaypur> Drastic, for real man, thats really sux, we buy a new pc, and we got that crap... vista...
[04:05] <E3b> hello all, how can I continue something (like using TAB) on !something (from bash_history), I mean, when I write "!ls" on cli, it's giving me the last command that I wrote from bash_history (for example "ls -la" ) I want to know how can I TAB it.. for complete the command before running it
[04:05] <jaypur> Dragnslcr, sorry wrong message
[04:05] <poningru> teapot, uh doesnt answer my question
[04:06] <poningru> but you have to install upnp support for xbmc
[04:06] <poningru> do you have babylon xbmc?
[04:06] <Drastic> jaypur: Happy to say I've never used Vista :P
[04:06] <teapot> poningru: Ah, there was no indication of that when enabling that.
[04:06] <roy_hobbs> Should /etc/network/if-up.d still be used? I can't find anything about it in the manpage for ifup or ifconfig, or anything like that
[04:06] <ScottG> Could someone look at this and tell me how I could form the logic? http://privatepaste.com/221GqNdlOo
[04:07] <bronyaur> Drastic, I just switched from vista...it sux
[04:07] <teapot> poningru: when enabling UPnP.... I need sleep.
[04:07] <pakowashere> ??
[04:07] <jaypur> Drastic, unfortenetly i am using, and ill tell you something... this is one of the worst things i have ever tried in a computer...
[04:08] <jaypur> Drastic, o my god
[04:08] <jaypur> Drastic, an error again... damn man....
[04:08] <Drastic> jaypur: What error?
[04:08] <poningru> teapot, http://xbmc.org/wiki/index.php?title=UPnP_Sharing
[04:08] <poningru> did you read through that?
[04:09] <mobi-sheep> !bridge
[04:09] <jaypur> Drastic, it was in the loading to install windows, and it got... "a problem has been detected..."
[04:09] <danes_> hello, I need help. I had the disk full, then I made some space, but the free space is not being recognized and therefore is not available. What can I do? look -> http://i43.tinypic.com/2q83fc4.png
[04:09] <jaypur> Drastic, i think the same is happening to ubuntu... an error....
[04:09] <Drastic> jaypur Are you booting from CD, or starting the install from inside Vista?
[04:09] <teapot> poningru: Yep, I did.
[04:10] <jaypur> Drastic, booting...
[04:10] <jaypur> Drastic, do you want the full message?
[04:10] <lflashlnzl> fsirc34, you there?
[04:10] <Drastic> jaypur: I never get error messages, so I don't know what to do :/
[04:10] <E3b> there is any way to forward msg on pidgin to SMS (using ICQ sms sender)? it's working in SIM-ICQ
[04:10] <Drastic> jaypur: Paste the error message anyway.
[04:10] <jaypur> Drastic, i think im gonna call hp or something
[04:10] <c0ntract0r> This is my dmesg http://nopaste.com/p/aKLDf4OXl      alsa won't work ens-1371 bottom of dmesg shows some errors.
[04:11] <jaypur> Drastic, it is in my laptop
[04:11] <qa321qa123> What?
[04:11] <poningru> teapot, what part is it failing on?
[04:11] <Drastic> jaypur: Ah, of course.
[04:11] <qa321qa123> 全都是外国人吗？
[04:11] <qa321qa123> 全都是外国人吗？
[04:11] <teapot> poningru: The application is failing to detect XBMC
[04:11] <chuck_> !ch
[04:11] <eseven73> !cn | qa321qa123
[04:11] <str> hi all
[04:12] <jaypur> Drastic, it says "error bla bla bla, first time... check for viruses, remove any newly installed hard drivers, make sure it is configured and terminated...... run chkdsk /f for hard drive corruption, and then restart your computer"... but it is a blue screen man....
[04:12] <poningru> teapot, first can you make sure some other controller can see xbmc upnp?
[04:12] <poningru> and assuming you have it going through the wifi
[04:12] <poningru> and not the cell
[04:12] <danes_> I upgraded my netbook with ubuntu netbook edition, but it is not working. It shows an error screen. Unable to open /dev/apgart, drmOpen failed... anyone familiar with this problem???
[04:13] <Drastic> jaypur: Hmm...
[04:13] <danes_> then it freezes and I cant do anything
[04:13] <mkasson> is there an easy gui scp client?
[04:13] <teapot> poningru: Haven't tried another controller.
[04:13] <teapot> poningru: Give me a moment. :)
[04:13] <office> Daniel_G, upgrade modules
[04:13] <jaypur> Drastic, man, i really need to call hp support and ask what the hell did they do....
[04:13] <str> not sure who i should report this to but... there'sa problem with the ubuntu forums... Every page mentons the word "jaunty" now, thanks to some message at the top of the page... this makes for lots of annoying search hits when looking for solutions with jaunty. anyone know who I should mention this to, so it can be made sane?
[04:13] <poningru> teapot, k
[04:13] <civpro> i keep getting mode not supported on first bootup, is there a way around this?
[04:14] <aboucher> can someone help me
[04:14] <Drastic> jaypur: Just as a test, try starting the XP install inside Vista?
[04:14] <Drastic> jaypur: But yeah, sounds like a tech support issue.
[04:14] <jaypur> Drastic, it is a brand new laptop man....
[04:14] <danes_> what is the latest kernel edition?
[04:14] <Computer_Man> how can i install sudo on my linuxmint box?
[04:15] <aboucher> in ubuntu 8.10 it types6 i6n randojms6 le7yujhnttrh'em
[04:15] <poningru> probably a question for the linuxmint people
[04:15] <poningru> aboucher, what?
[04:15] <office> danes_, you have kernel-hearder ?
[04:15] <IndyGunFreak> Computer_Man: i believe sudo is default on Mint.. but its been a while since i used it
[04:15] <danes_> office, how can I know that?
[04:15] <aboucher> in u67buntu it6 typesin random letters
[04:15] <poningru> Ciantic, whats wrong?
[04:15] <poningru> err civpro ^^
[04:15] <IndyGunFreak> Computer_Man: Mint is more or less ubuntu w/ a different GUI
[04:16] <Computer_Man> well sudo apt-get install don't work in cli
[04:16] <danes_> office, I was trying to update my system, but something went wrong I think with the kernel, and startx does not work anymore
[04:16] <Computer_Man> of course cd don't either.
[04:16] <office> danes_, apt-get install linux-2.6.*(new kernel)-herader
[04:16] <poningru> aboucher, and your machine doesnt do that in other os?
[04:16] <Computer_Man> i'm not sure if i don't have jacked install.
[04:16] <jaypur> Drastic, should i try ubntu or xp?
[04:16] <aboucher> no
[04:16] <office> danes_, ayes
[04:16] <poningru> danes_, whatst he error you get?
[04:16] <IndyGunFreak> Computer_Man: what error are you getting when you run sudo apt-get install
[04:17] <poningru> whats*
[04:17] <office> danes_, you dont have kernel modules
[04:17] <billybigrigger_> jaypur::: obviously ubuntu
[04:17] <office> danes_, from new kernel
[04:17] <aboucher> it does it every once in a few days and it annoys the heck out of me
[04:17] <Drastic> jaypur: XP first
[04:17] <danes_> /dev/apgart, drmOpen...
[04:17] <danes_> how can I fix that?
[04:17] <teapot> poningru: Downloading libupnp4 and gupnp-tools didn't help...
[04:17] <Drastic> jaypur: You need to do XP first for an XP/Ubuntu dual boot
[04:17] <billybigrigger_> Drastic jaypur haha ill stay out of your convo, i jumped in and wasnt reading all of it :P
[04:18] <debacle> i just installed hardy as a webserver, and am having problems getting it to see the windows network. I cannot ping any machine, but I can ftp to it and html works. anyone available to give me a hand?
[04:18] <jaypur> Drastic, but can i install xp inside vista and then delete vista?
[04:18] <debacle> i been browsing tutorials last few hours and nothing helps
[04:18] <teapot> poningru: Don't actually have another device that I can use, unless I download XBMC on a laptop which could take a while.
[04:18] <IndyGunFreak> Computer_Man: i suspect youve done something wrong if youc an't use sudo on Mint, because it should work fine
[04:18] <office> danes_, you must install corectly new kernel
[04:18] <poningru> cant you use laptop as a controller?
[04:18] <danes_> if I try to apt-get install linux-2.6.* would that fix my problem?
[04:19] <billybigrigger_> danes_::: no
[04:19] <office> 2.6 its too overall
[04:19] <Drastic> jaypur: You'll only be starting the install process inside Vista - it'll reboot once you've started it and you should be able to choose to install it over Vista (if you don't get another error)
[04:19] <Computer_Man> hmm.....sudo apt-get install by it self did what i awas told would be the same as sudo apt-get updates.
[04:19] <office> you must know what kernel you have
[04:19] <danes_> billybigrigger_, then, how could
[04:19] <Computer_Man> or looks like it.
[04:19] <danes_> I fix it?
[04:19] <c0ntract0r> What does this mean when installing alsa pkgs     dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting:
[04:19] <c0ntract0r>  syntax error: unknown group `mlocate' in statoverride file
[04:19] <office> danes_, uname -r
[04:19] <IndyGunFreak> Computer_Man: well sudo apt-get install   is not gonna do anything, you have to tell it to install something
[04:19] <jaypur> Drastic, the install button is off... man im really sad right now
[04:19] <billybigrigger_> danes_::: uname -r will give you current kernel version
[04:19] <Drastic> jaypur: :/
[04:20] <danes_> I have 2.6.28-11-generic
[04:20] <str> not sure who i should report this to but... there's a problem with the ubuntu forums... Every page mentions the word "jaunty" now, thanks to some message at the top of the page... this makes for lots of annoying search hits when looking for solutions with jaunty. anyone know who I should mention this to, so it can be made sane?
[04:20] <Computer_Man> ok....will have to surf for something cool to install.
[04:20] <IndyGunFreak> Computer_Man: do you have the Mint GUI?
[04:20] <jaypur> Drastic, if i dont get linux in that computer ill get my money back or something....
[04:20] <Computer_Man> yes
[04:20] <danes_> could you guys help me to fix it?
[04:20] <IndyGunFreak> just install something simple.. sudo apt-get install audacious
[04:20] <lump> hey
[04:21] <office> danes_, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.28-11-generic
[04:21] <office> danes_, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.28-10-generic
[04:21] <Drastic> jaypur: Pretty shoddy if you can't install another OS over Vista...
[04:21] <str> the secret, is to not install vista.
[04:21] <office> tfu
[04:21] <str> :D
[04:21] <jaypur> Drastic, but for real man, thanks a lot for the help...
[04:22] <newuser> which file system to go with on new install of 9.04 64 bit.....ext 2, 3, or 4???
[04:22] <danes_> office,  all right. Now I have a small problem. My internet is only wireless because I am sharing it with my neighbor, but he is not home right now. How can I connect from terminal using the wifi card?
[04:22] <ienorand> str: jaunty, in what way?
[04:22] <Drastic> jaypur: np, sorry you couldn't get the install done
[04:22] <ssj4Gogeta> I upgraded from 8.10 to 9.04 and now in my grub menu there are 4 new entries in addition to the old 8.10 entry. the new entries are called 9.04 and then what I think is a kernel number.
[04:22] <jaypur> Drastic, now ill try to talk to hp
[04:22] <ssj4Gogeta> the two have different kernel numbers
[04:23] <office> danes_, wifi card are working ?
[04:23] <Computer_Man> if my cli shows administrator....is the highest in the file system i can get is my personal directory?
[04:23] <promptscreen55> hey guys
[04:23] <office> danes_, installed and working /
[04:23] <office> ?
[04:23] <promptscreen55> anyone here play fifa 09 on ps3
[04:23] <danes_> office, they were before updating. I cannot tell anymore because of the problem
[04:23] <jlaroche> Could anyone help me get my sound blaster audigy 4 working in ubuntu 9.04 64 bit. It was working great, but suddenly stopped working two days ago.
[04:23] <ssj4Gogeta> so now there are 5 ubuntu entries: 8.04, 9.04 kernel something -7 and 9.04 kernel something -11 and their safe modes
[04:23] <newuser> ssj4Gogeta not really a problem, but you could edit menu.lst if you dont want all four there and just comment out the ones you want ignored
[04:23] <office> danes_, show me: iwconfig
[04:24] <office> danes_, but if you dont have upgrade modules
[04:24] <newuser> which file system to go with on new install of 9.04 64 bit.....ext 2, 3, or 4???
[04:24] <danes_> office, damn, it doesn't show :( only "lo" and eth0
[04:24] <office> i think its wifi dont work
[04:25] <IndyGunFreak> newuser: ext4 is new, and who knows what kind of stability issues it might have, i would stick w/ ext3
[04:25] <str> noone has any idea where to report problems with the ubuntu forums?
[04:25] <danes_> office, then I will have to wait until I get a wired connection, right?
[04:25] <jaypur> i cant install ubuntu over vista in my laptop, what should i do?
[04:25] <office> danes_, you must upgrade system correctly
[04:26] <bobbi> How do i find out what wifi driver im using ?
[04:26] <danes_> office, is there anyway to do it offline? Using my other computer to download the files, then transfer them to my netbook?
[04:26] <IndyGunFreak> bobbi: well what is your wifi device?
[04:26] <chika_cute> haiiiiiiiiiii...............
[04:27] <danes_> chika_cute, hi
[04:27] <office> danes_, you can connect this 2 compuer and share internet connection to netbook
[04:27] <teapot> poningru: Do you know if UPnP can give you remote control of a device like similar to mpd?
[04:27] <chika_cute> hai............jg
[04:27] <danes_> office,  the problem is that I'm newbie and dont know how to do it :s
[04:28] <bobbi> IndyGunFreak : corgea, usb
[04:28] <danes_> office, even if the other computer uses a wireless card?
[04:28] <IndyGunFreak> bobbi: that doesn't say a whole lot.
[04:28] <RobAGD> as a quick questino am running ubuntu from a cd, I want to dd if=/dev/sdc of=/dev/sdb I am having a bit of trouble dealing the the sudo way to gain root permissions to do this
[04:28] <office> danes_, no
[04:28] <poningru> teapot, I thought it was meant more for playing songs from a repository
[04:28] <office> danes_, on cable
[04:28] <office> lan
[04:28] <DaveCo> how practical is it for me to build a cluster computer out of many old computers?
[04:28] <poningru> but I dont know exactly
[04:28] <office> you dont have wifi driver on ubunut
[04:28] <teapot> poningru: I think you're right.
[04:28] <IndyGunFreak> DaveCo: i've done it lots of times.
[04:28] <RobAGD> DaveCo - depends on what you want to them to do
[04:28] <poningru> as in if you have a upnp server with songs on it your upnp client can play songs from the server
[04:29] <danes_> office, yes, I didn't explain myself. The other computer connects to internet only with wireless card. Can I still make it?
[04:29] <teapot> poningru: Yeah, that's what I thought.
[04:29] <IndyGunFreak> DaveCo: you just have to have realistic expectations
[04:29] <poningru> so by controller I meant a upnp client
[04:29] <chuck_> DaveCo,  I'd do just to see if it works
[04:29] <office> danes_, if you have ethernet card on this compuer then yes
[04:29] <mobi-sheep__>  Anybody here expert with bridge?  I'm trying to give my Xbox360 a network by connecting the Xbox360 directly to the laptop and the laptop leech off on the Wifi.  I also would like to be able to toggle on/off on the bridging part.
[04:29] <birk> anyone know any good bnc clients for ubuntu ?
[04:29] <teapot> poningru: But there seems to be a few varieties.
[04:29] <bobbi> IndyGunFreak; usb id 07aa:0011
[04:29] <danes_> office, yes I do
[04:29] <poningru> teapot, yes
[04:30] <IndyGunFreak> bobbi: you need to figure out the chipset on the device.
[04:30] <teapot> poningru: I think that's the part that's confusing me =)
[04:30] <poningru> mobi-sheep, what ubuntu version are you running?
[04:30] <chika_cute> haiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii......
[04:30] <mobi-sheep__> poningru: Jaunty.
[04:30] <teapot> poningru: Do you reckon there are any advantages to using that over a samba share?
[04:30] <office> danes_, easiest install new ubunut from cd
[04:30] <debacle> i just installed hardy as a webserver, and am having problems getting it to see the windows network. I cannot ping any machine, but I can ftp to it and html works. anyone available to give me a hand?
[04:31] <debacle> i been browsing tutorials last few hours and nothing helps
[04:31] <office> thats be easiest for you
[04:31] <keith> Why does pressing both alts never seem to switch the keyboard layout for me? Is it possible something else is intercepting that key combo?
[04:31] <_danes_> office, I connected both computers, but forgot that it tried to connect automatically, so it disconnected me from internet
[04:32] <DaveCo> IndyGunFreak, RobAGD well im a student that would like a cheap, fast computer, and i have 4 Pentium 3 computers, and 8 pentium 4 computers, any ideas?
[04:32] <_danes_> office, now I'm back. How can I share the connection?
[04:32] <bobbi> IndyGunFreak:  im trying to see if i can use this driver in intreped,  its working in jaunry
[04:32] <DaveCo> IndyGunFreak RobAGD well im a student that would like a cheap, fast computer, and i have 4 Pentium 3 computers, and 8 pentium 4 computers, any ideas?
[04:32] <bullgard4> What data is stored in /var/log/daemon.log?
[04:33] <Opshlds> Is there an ubuntu for beginners room?
[04:33] <Mike_lifeguard> My swap partition is filling up slowly even though RAM isn't full. And no matter what I do, swap usage doesn't go back down. Is there any way to see what is eating swap space?
[04:33] <fungos> hi
[04:33] <office> _danes_, you not give upgrade this system easiest
[04:33] <donavan_> is there a way to get 8.10 to connect to a preferred wifi connection automatically
[04:33] <bullgard4> Opshlds: I don't think so. At least I have never heard about.
[04:33] <poningru> mobi-sheep__, there is a dns related package you install for it to run
[04:33] <office> _danes_, easiest be install from cd
[04:33] <dayo> Mike_lifeguard: top
[04:33] <Esde[irssi]> how do i install TrueCrypt on 9.04?
[04:34] <mobi-sheep__> Opshlds: There are Ubuntu Support documentary and community documentary on the Ubuntu website.  However, if you prefer human support, then you can do so here. :)
[04:34] <Mike_lifeguard> dayo: that shows what each process is using of ram, doesn't it?
[04:34] <poningru> mobi-sheep__, and then you can go into network manager and have it do share connection
[04:34] <Opshlds> Yeah, I def prefer human support?
[04:34] <mobi-sheep__> poningru: What package is that? I tried bridge-utils as outlined in one of the websites recently.
[04:34] <fungos> my father upgraded his ubuntu last night and the wireless stopped working. It is a sis191 (module sis190) but dmesg shows "wlan0: link is not ready" and nothing more. It worked before upgrade.
[04:35] <mobi-sheep__> Opshlds: State your issues.  People here will answer if they know the solution.
[04:35] <poningru> mobi-sheep__, trying to find it
[04:35] <Opshlds> So... I've just installed Hardy Heron 8.04, and Was trying to figure out what kernel version I have?
[04:35] <bhuey> folks, how I can configure my syslog to output the netfilter logs to a seperate file ?
[04:35] <mobi-sheep__> poningru: Okay.   It is more complicated. I think that I will wait until I get a wired connection.
[04:36] <dayo> Mike_lifeguard: yeah
[04:36] <poningru> mobi-sheep__, dnsmasq-base
[04:36] <mobi-sheep__> Opshlds: "uname -a" in the terminal will tell you.
[04:36] <poningru> thats it
[04:36] <Opshlds> Nice
[04:36] <Mike_lifeguard> dayo: and if firefox is eating memory, but killing it reduces ram usage but not swap usage then there's a problem right? I mean... RAM isn't even full, so no swap should be used at all
[04:36] <poningru> well you can install dnsmasq
[04:36] <poningru> but -base isnt the whole thing and I recommend that
[04:36] <_danes_> office, one last thing, how can I connect when using eth0?
[04:36] <chuck_> donavan_, do you have net-work-manager on work panel
[04:37] <Opshlds> Thank You much
[04:37] <chuck_> donavan_, upper panel
[04:37] <RobAGD> as a quick question am running ubuntu from a cd, I want to dd if=/dev/sdc of=/dev/sdb but I am having a bit of trouble dealing with the sudo way to gain root permissions to do this. Some better suggestions ?
[04:37] <c0ntract0r>  syntax error: unknown group `mlocate' in statoverride file
[04:37] <c0ntract0r> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)       when running sudo apt-get install linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils  Does that mean fubard?
[04:38] <office> _danes_, ifconfig eth0 YOURIP up
[04:38] <donavan_> chuck_: yeah I can connect no problem but i want to get it ti do it automatically
[04:38] <office> _danes_, route add default gw GATEWAY IP
[04:38] <dayo> Mike_lifeguard: start top     then press 'f'      then press 'p'       it sorts procs according to swap usage.
[04:38] <office> or if you have dhacpd server
[04:38] <office> dhclient3 eth0
[04:38] <Mike_lifeguard> ah, I didn't know it separated swap and ram
[04:38] <_danes_> office, sorry for being such an ignorant, but how can I know my IP?
[04:38] <Mike_lifeguard> thanks
[04:38] <rainofkayos> hmm
[04:38] <poningru> c0ntract0r, do dpkg --configure -a or something like that
[04:38] <rainofkayos> ifconfig
[04:38] <office> huh
[04:39] <Opshlds> Where would my kernel sources directory be located in hardy?
[04:39] <office> /usr/src
[04:39] <dayo> Mike_lifeguard: u're welcome
[04:39] <Opshlds> Thank you
[04:39] <garp> ok is Ubuntu going to support the Ati cards that worked great in version 8.10 but don't in 9.04
[04:39] <sacarlson> RobAGD:  maybe sudo su
[04:39] <c0ntract0r> poningru same prob
[04:39] <garp> is any plans to fix the a
[04:39] <garp> Ati trouble
[04:39]  * rainofkayos scared to upgrade
[04:40] <IndyGunFreak> rainofkayos: why?
[04:40] <DaveCo> does anyone know how to make a computer cluster put of 8 pentium4s and 4 pentium 3s?
[04:40] <rainofkayos> things break
[04:40] <_danes_> office, Ohh I got it. with ifconfig?
[04:40] <rainofkayos> everything works fine for me here now with 8.10
[04:41] <rainofkayos> i would rather test the latest in a VM for a while before i go and upgrade
[04:41] <chika_cute> hiiiiiiii............?
[04:41] <chuck_> donavan_, right click it  click edit connections wireless tap/ left click the one you want to connect to then click edit there should be a tab to connect auto
[04:41] <IndyGunFreak> DaveCo: take the Pentium 4, add any compatible memory from the others, take the biggest hard drive, make it the master, if you need another one, make it slave.. and go from there.
[04:41] <mobi-sheep__> DaveCo: I don't know if you can do that.  Unless you're talking about 'distcc'
[04:41] <mobi-sheep__> !info distcc
[04:41] <IndyGunFreak> DaveCo: its not that hard.. just take the best of everything, and put it in one box.
[04:41] <fungos> rainofkayos: do NOT upgrade.. its really breaking everything
[04:41] <office> _danes_, first you must share internet connection in com[puter with net
[04:41] <chika_cute> hiiiiiiiiii
[04:41] <dayo> Mike_lifeguard: i think it's actually 'F' not 'f'
[04:41] <rainofkayos> fungos: yep im aware.. thats usually like a 'standard' no
[04:41] <IndyGunFreak> fungos: ?.. thats ridiculous.. i've had no problems at all.
[04:41] <rainofkayos> dont upgrade unless you need to
[04:42] <_danes_> office, yes, but If I connect it directly to the router I don't need to do that, right?
[04:42] <IndyGunFreak> rainofkayos: ive not had a single issue at all.. i know some of hte intel graphics chips are causing probs.
[04:42] <rainofkayos> IndyGunFreak: whats your version of python?
[04:42] <Mike_lifeguard> dayo: figured it out... though total swap usage (in system monitor) doesn't go down when killing high-swap-using processes like firefox
[04:42] <office> _danes_, if directly to router try sudo dhclient3 eth0-
[04:42] <office> _danes_, if directly to router try sudo dhclient3 eth0
[04:42] <rainofkayos> is it > 2.5 ?
[04:42] <IndyGunFreak> rainofkayos: i have no clue, i don't use python
[04:42] <mobi-sheep__> poningru: Can you please explain a bit more?  I installed dnsmasq and I tried "Edit Connection" to toggle on "Shared to other computers" on Auto Eth0.
[04:43] <rainofkayos> yes you do
[04:43] <_danes_> office, allright
[04:43] <rainofkayos> you may not know it but you do
[04:43] <poningru> mobi-sheep__, restart the computer
[04:43] <fungos> IndyGunFreak: in 3 different machines I had done upgrade something got broken! its a fact.  My father just upgrade and wireless got fscked.
[04:43] <IndyGunFreak> rainofkayos: well maybe i do, but i have no need to worry about what version it is.
[04:43] <nevada1920> hi
[04:43] <rainofkayos> hmm
[04:43] <donavan_> chuck_: thanks I figured it would be that tough but just missed it when i was looking
[04:43] <mobi-sheep__> poningru: Okay.  Be right back.
[04:43] <poningru> mobi-sheep__, or you can restart networkin, network-manager, etc. but just restart it
[04:43] <IndyGunFreak> fungos: my wireless works better w/ jaunty, than it did w/ intrepid
[04:44] <RobAGD> humm 12gb over usb, this shoudl be fun
[04:44] <rainofkayos> in one case scapy doesn't work well with 2.6 and thats one thing i use often
[04:44] <bullgard4> What does "permalink" mean in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/105234?
[04:44] <RAMBO> Hey, I got my computer with Vista, and then dual boot installed Ubuntu. What happens if I install Windows 7 for a triple boot?
[04:44] <fungos> IndyGunFreak: good. sis191 just wont connect anymore.  kpackagekit is just buggy too.
[04:44] <rainofkayos> if they upgraded to 2.6 in the latest the no telling what else they changed.. its more ideal for me to test in a VM first
[04:44] <chuck_> donavan_, your welcome
[04:44] <office> bullgard4, real file to real file
[04:45] <office> not symlink
[04:45] <rainofkayos> 2.6.x Python that is
[04:45] <bullgard4> office: I do not understand your message. Can you elaborate.
[04:45] <RobAGD> RAMBO: if you install it as a seperate install vs an upgrade over your Vista install youget a 3rd boot option if its done right
[04:45] <office> i can't
[04:45] <RAMBO> RobAGD: What do I have to do to do it right?
[04:45] <office> bullgard4, i dont speak english that weel
[04:45] <office> ;p
[04:45] <chuck_> c0ntract0r, sounds like you have more problems than you started out with.
[04:45] <rainofkayos> =>
[04:45] <ubuntunoobneedin> fungos what brand is your wifi adapter
[04:45] <RobAGD> I use to quad boot 98se/ Win NT4 / RH 5.2 / Win2k
[04:46] <c0ntract0r> chuck_ I fear so :P
[04:46] <rainofkayos> ahh red hat a real 0S =)
[04:46] <RAMBO> robAGH: What happens if I just follow the install procedure on a blank partition?
[04:46] <bullgard4> What data is stored in /var/log/daemon.log?
[04:46] <[esde]> anyone know how to resize ubuntu netbook remix?
[04:46] <rainofkayos> daemon data?
[04:46] <_danes_> office, thank you very much
[04:46] <jake> how does this work
[04:46] <office> _dark__, for waht ?
[04:46] <office> *what
[04:46] <RobAGD> RAMBO: Ill be honest its been freaking eons since I messed with all that. I am in no way current on any version/variant of linux
[04:47] <fungos> ubuntunoobneedin: SiS 191 (rev 02)
[04:47] <RAMBO> RobAGD: Lulz. Well, this is more of a GRUB thing.
[04:47] <rainofkayos> looks like all processes that run as daemons log to that log as well
[04:47] <jake> how does this work
[04:48] <jake> how does this work
[04:48] <Chaorain>  I'm trrying to install Ubuntu 9.04 on a 1.5 TB HDD. Installs just fine but won't boot.  No error message. Help?
[04:48] <RobAGD> jake:  that is kind of a vauge questions
[04:48] <Flannel> jake: You ask your question(s) (one at a time) and you get help with them.
[04:48] <poningru> Chaorain, where does it fail?
[04:48] <fungos> ubuntunoobneedin: it just say "wlan0: link is not ready" on dmesg and nothing more. already googled about it. just find posts related to 7.xx and 8.xx 2008 or earlier. :S
[04:48] <rainofkayos> vague
[04:49]  * AngryBananas waves!
[04:49] <poningru> as in what point?
[04:49] <RobAGD> thanks rain
[04:49] <rainofkayos> =)
[04:49] <vertagano> bluetooth-wizard never shows any devices; hcitool from the commandline does. Nautilus no longer allows me to connect to my bluetooth devices with obex://[address]  How can I use a GUI to browse and retrieve files?
[04:49] <Chaorain> poingru, at grub. I get nada
[04:49] <RAMBO> Can I resize my ubuntu partitions from Vista?
[04:49] <RobAGD> not use to the small arse keyboard on this tiny thing
[04:49] <rainofkayos> <---actually spells horribly
[04:49] <chuck_> c0ntract0r, I do not know if it will do any good but try installing with aptitude
[04:49] <rainofkayos> i was just so happy to see something i actually know how to spell =)
[04:49] <RobAGD> i just type slopy
[04:49] <RobAGD> sloppy
[04:49] <rainofkayos> lol
[04:50] <c0ntract0r> chuck_ so is apt-get broken?
[04:50] <IndyGunFreak> RAMBO: i'mnot sure on that one.. i don't think so.. easiest thing to do is just download a partedmagic live cd
[04:50] <RAMBO> IndyGunFreak: Is it a big DL?
[04:50] <RobAGD> big reason I dont code,I would spend too much time tracking down typos
[04:50] <rainofkayos> RobAGD: LOL @ ME 2
[04:50] <IndyGunFreak> RAMBO: ... don't think so.. but i've not had to download it in a while.
[04:50] <RAMBO> indyGunFreak: K, thanks
[04:50] <rainofkayos> just some bash & perl other than that,, i just mess things up
[04:51] <[esde]> anyone know how to resize ubuntu netbook remix?
[04:51] <RAMBO> What's the deal with MD5 sums? Is it that likely for stuff to download wrong?
[04:51] <IndyGunFreak> RAMBO: http://partedmagic.com/
[04:51] <jake> Linux is better then any windows computer lol
[04:51] <rainofkayos> resize the partition?
[04:51] <RAMBO> Oi, 71mb
[04:51] <chuck_> c0ntract0r, sounds like it there is a way to reinstall it let me see if i can find it
[04:51] <[esde]> i want to make the hard disk for Remix bigger
[04:51] <rainofkayos> maybe gparted
[04:51] <mobi-sheep> poningru: I'm back.
[04:51] <c0ntract0r> Ok thank  you im trying to read thru translated google forums for the answer as well
[04:51] <rainofkayos> the liveCD or a liveCD with gparted installed
[04:52] <office> [esde], use gparted
[04:52] <IndyGunFreak> rainofkayos: that works to, i just really like the partedmagic live cd.. its got some useful tools on it
[04:52] <RAMBO> Is there a lightweight partitioner?
[04:52] <Opshld1> Is anyone here familiar with b43 and patching for injection specifically in Hardy Heron?
[04:52] <compubomb> what raid contollers would you guy's use for ubuntu ?
[04:52] <compubomb> just curious.
[04:52] <maco> compubomb: hardware
[04:52] <rainofkayos> IndyGunFreak: cool.. i was just confused partmagick is the live CD with all the resize tools right?
[04:52] <maco> compubomb: just dont use fakeraid or software raid, and you should be ok
[04:52] <IndyGunFreak> RAMBO: the partition programs are about all the same
[04:53] <IndyGunFreak> rainofkayos: yeah..
[04:53] <pooq> b43?
[04:53] <maco> compubomb: fakeraid  / software raid ...recipe for pain in many cases
[04:53] <IndyGunFreak> rainofkayos: has some disk checking utilities, etc.. its pretty handy to have actually
[04:53] <rainofkayos> cool.. im really bad with names .. i.e. packages, etc
[04:53] <RAMBO> IndyGunFreak: argh. I need to find my GParted CD. I know I have one around somewhere. Can't I do it within Vista?
[04:53] <Opshld1> Broadcom 43x driver, i think
[04:53] <rainofkayos> IndyGunFreak: does it have the ntfs-3g?
[04:53] <maco> RAMBO: you can just use the ubuntu cd you used to install
[04:53] <rainofkayos> i forget
[04:53] <IndyGunFreak> rainofkayos: yes
[04:53] <rainofkayos> nice
[04:53] <IndyGunFreak> RAMBO: i told you i don't know, i don't think you can...
[04:53] <pooq> oh, no
[04:53] <Opshld1> Hrmm, ok thanks
[04:53] <RAMBO> Does the Windows 7 disc have a built in partition editor?
[04:54] <RAMBO> Maco: Oh, I can just do that I guess.
[04:54] <rainofkayos> i think i actually burned it to CD somewhere.. you know i still have a copy of linux defender..
[04:54]  * rainofkayos has nothing to do with anything
[04:54] <RAMBO> And never mind, I found my Gparted live CD
[04:54] <pooq> i have a little experience w/ madwifi
[04:55] <rainofkayos> i battled wifi for weeks,, to find network manager was controllnig my wireless and all i had to do was right click the icon and select my network
[04:55] <lump> can dns be used just on an internal network for host names?
[04:55] <IndyGunFreak> i just like partedmagic, because its got quite a few different disk tools on it.
[04:55] <rainofkayos> lump: yes
[04:55] <lump> thanks
[04:55] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[04:55] <office> rainofkayos, wicd
[04:55] <jake> how secure is linux
[04:55] <rainofkayos> ubuntu is weird.. i dont think red hat uses network manager.. or if it does..
[04:55] <IndyGunFreak> wicd is ok, but it was causing me to randomly lose my connection, so i ditched it.. nm-applet is fine
[04:55] <RAMBO> If I install Windows 7 onto a partition will it b0rk up my MBR?
[04:55] <office> jake, more than windows
[04:56] <Chaorain>  I'm trrying to install Ubuntu 9.04 on a 1.5 TB Seagate HDD. Installs just fine but won't boot.  No error message. Help?
[04:56] <rainofkayos> jake: linux is more configurable and modular than windows.. its easier to 'secure'
[04:56] <IndyGunFreak> RAMBO: i'd say theres a really good chance of it.. windows likes to do its own thing w/ the MBR.. but iv'e got no W7 experience
[04:56] <pooq> RAMBO, yes
[04:56] <RAMBO> Pooq: How do I prevent that? i like my vista and ubuntu to work.
[04:56] <rainofkayos> depends on the level of security your talking... but linux is usually able to be way more secure than windows
[04:57] <office> Here you can go crazy
[04:57] <IndyGunFreak> Chaorain: are you tryingt o put it on an external drive?
[04:57] <rainofkayos> but SElinux is annoying
[04:57] <pooq> install vista first
[04:57] <jimuntu>  You have to install windows first then linux
[04:57] <maco> jake: assuming you run as a normal user and not as root at all times, dont share your password, etc...pretty secure
[04:57] <Chaorain> IngyGunFreak, No Internal SATA
[04:57] <pooq> that is the easiest way to do it
[04:57] <RAMBO> pooq: I got my lappy with vista, then installed ubuntu second.
[04:57] <jake> cool Im kind of new to the system
[04:57] <rainofkayos> me 2
[04:57] <maco> jake: no worries about drive by downloads and such
[04:57] <IndyGunFreak> Chaorain: is it partitioning the drive properly?
[04:58] <pooq> oh, you want to add win7?
[04:58] <IndyGunFreak> and installing ok?
[04:58] <jake> what about viruses
[04:58] <pooq> as a third os?
[04:58] <rainofkayos> not really
[04:58] <agoole> how do I download  and install a source from the repos ?
[04:58] <IndyGunFreak> !virus | jake
[04:58] <rainofkayos> viruses are usually built for windows being that its so much more popular
[04:58] <office> jake, no viruses
[04:58] <pumpkinseed> hello. i'm having sound issues on jaunty 9.04 64bit with a sound blaster audigy 4. Sound was working fine for weeks and now its not. Sound tests work, but sound is coming out extremely low and gargly. No physical changes to speakers, sound card, etc. Tested working in Knoppix...
[04:58] <office> expliots only :)
[04:58] <maco> jake: lets go with "at least as secure as OSX because our default browser doesnt do stupid things like running executables that are found inside zips that happen to be downloaded through the browser"
[04:58] <Chaorain> IngyGunFreak, looks like it. From old install all the files are there
[04:58] <rainofkayos> usually people use AV apps on linux if they share disks to windows hosts
[04:58] <IndyGunFreak> Chaorain: so what happens when you boot up, it just goes straight to windows?
[04:59] <maco> agoole: apt-get source <package>
[04:59] <maco> agoole: you can use "dpkg-buildpackage" to rebuild it after youve made whatever changes you want to make
[04:59] <Chaorain> IngyGunFreak, nope just sits there. never gets to Grub
[04:59] <rainofkayos> as long as you secure the super user account security ROX on linux
[04:59] <maco> jake: essentially, it'd need to be a targetted attack
[04:59] <office> Chaorain, you dont install grub !
[04:59] <agoole> maco: the package gspca seems only available as a source, will apt-get source command download it and install it ?
[04:59] <light__> ok guiez, I need flash, should I get swfdec, adobe or gnash, any diffrence????
[05:00] <maco> agoole: apt-get source only downloads the source package
[05:00] <rainofkayos> u need to unarchive it still
[05:00] <rainofkayos> i think
[05:00] <agoole> maco: ok thanks
[05:00] <Chaorain> office,  I'm just doing the standard install from ubuntu 9.04 live CD
[05:00] <jake> wow this system is awsome
[05:00] <maco> agoole: i dont know how that package works / why it only contains source code. im guessing module-assistant is needed just like the alsa-driver package
[05:00] <pumpkinseed> hello. i'm having sound issues on jaunty 9.04 64bit with a sound blaster audigy 4. Sound was working fine for weeks and now its not. Sound tests work, but sound is coming out extremely low and gargly. No physical changes to speakers, sound card, etc. Sound Tested working in Knoppix...
[05:01] <agoole> maco: ok, thats all I need to know, thanks :)
[05:01] <Chaorain> office,  whatever it puts on is what gets put on
[05:01] <office> Chaorain, then install grub manuall
[05:01] <maco> rainofkayos: no, itll extract on its own
[05:01] <rainofkayos> oh
[05:01] <dtchen> pumpkinseed: wget -O ~/Desktop/alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ~/Desktop/alsa-info.sh
[05:01] <rainofkayos> cool beans
[05:01] <Chaorain> office,  can I do that from 8.10 on my old HDD?
[05:01] <dtchen> pumpkinseed: then tell me the url that it generates
[05:01] <pumpkinseed> dtchen: okay.. will do... thanks
[05:01] <office> yes
[05:02] <Chaorain> office,  how?
[05:02] <pumpkinseed> hmm
[05:02] <jake> so linux is really secure is what im getting lol
[05:02] <Mike_lifeguard> If I want to adjust the sizes of my partitions, I need to unmount them right? And if they are / and /home then that means I can't be running ubuntu at the same time, right?
[05:02] <chuck_> c0ntract0r, sudo aptitude reinstall dpkg
[05:02] <office> Chaorain, i must know what partitions you have
[05:02] <dtchen> jake: it's no more or less than any other system.
[05:02] <office> etc
[05:02] <pumpkinseed> dtchen: i ran the script and then it did its think... said "Done!" and then gave me "Your ALSA information is located at " blank
[05:02] <jake> ok
[05:03] <dtchen> pumpkinseed: rerun it with --no-upload, and you should see the contents in /tmp/alsa-info.txt. pastebin that file.
[05:03] <Mike_lifeguard> jake: you can make it insecure if you want, but it's generally viewed as quite secure
[05:03] <[esde]> gparted wont let me resize or anything
[05:03] <Chaorain> office, one EXT3 and 1 swap there
[05:03] <rainofkayos> what does it say?
[05:03] <office> [esde], becouse you must unomunt first
[05:03] <[esde]> unmount?
[05:04] <rainofkayos> the drive can't be in use.. or dirty
[05:04] <maco> dtchen: in a targetted attack, you mean? there are certainly fewer random wormholes on the interwebs trying to swallow up linux machines
[05:04] <rainofkayos> umount
[05:04] <[esde]> if i do wont i not be able to use the drive?
[05:04] <Mike_lifeguard> that's right
[05:04] <[esde]> how to
[05:04] <office> Chaorain, the names
[05:04] <pumpkinseed> dtchen: I've got the alsa-info.txt file
[05:04] <office> Chaorain, sda1,sdb1 ?
[05:04] <rainofkayos> umount or from GUI not sure
[05:04] <pumpkinseed> want me to upload it somewherE?
[05:04] <Mike_lifeguard> maco: there are wormholes in the internet? O.o
[05:04] <dtchen> maco: wormholes don't care what OS is at the dest
[05:04] <[esde]> can someone explain step by step?
[05:04] <Chaorain> office, sdc1
[05:04] <dtchen> pumpkinseed: sure, paste.ubuntu.com would be fine
[05:04] <rainofkayos> virus is kinda a catchall phrase
[05:04] <maco> dtchen: but the software they tend to try to install does
[05:05] <office> Chaorain, boot from old disk
[05:05] <rainofkayos> for a malious app
[05:05] <maco> rainofkayos: no, that's malware
[05:05] <maco> rainofkayos: virus is a *type* of malware
[05:05] <IndyGunFreak> [esde]: explain what?
[05:05] <office> Chaorain, mount new disk
[05:05] <rainofkayos> so if i load a script that does rm -Rf /opt/ into your crontab
[05:05] <jake> so since viruses basicly dont work on linux attacks have to be manuel or over a network
[05:05] <Chaorain> office, already on it
[05:05] <rainofkayos> maco: ok greed
[05:05] <[esde]> how to resize my Ubuntu Netbook Remix
[05:05] <office> Chaorain, and show me sudo fdisk -l
[05:05] <rainofkayos> lol agreed
[05:05] <[esde]> its like 4 gigs.
[05:05] <Mike_lifeguard> is it safe to unmount my /home partition, resize it and re-mount it?
[05:05] <maco> jake: there have been ~30 linux viruses over the years. AFAIK, none affect current releases of any major distro
[05:05] <pumpkinseed> dtchen: http://paste.ubuntu.com/168393/
[05:05] <rainofkayos> wait aren't you using like a sdram card for a drive [esde] ?
[05:06] <[esde]> no i installed it rainofkayos
[05:06] <rainofkayos> but on the netbook isn't the hardrive like sdram?
[05:06] <maco> jake: though there was one openoffice.org macro thing a year or so ago that was cross-platform
[05:06] <dtchen> jake: the same types work. it's just that _visibility_ isn't as high for certain OSes due to the relative costs of engaging in said exploits. it certainly does not diminish the fact that many exploits aren't even OS-specific.
[05:06] <Chaorain> office, 1 sec
[05:07] <^Ryan> *sigh* my firefox is busted, any idea how i can fix it, everytime i click download's in the option's bit it closes?
[05:07] <Chaorain> office, http://www.paste-it.net/public/s685ce4/
[05:07] <dsabecky> ^Ryan: Delete your preferences in your home folder for Firefox. It should fix the issue
[05:08] <maco> jake: i wont say ive never seen a linux box get rooted. i was at a hacker con when a friend had "you've been owned" pop up on his screen
[05:08] <^Ryan> Thank's
[05:08] <rainofkayos> maco: my point exactly
[05:08] <dtchen> pumpkinseed: try: amixer set -Dhw:0 'Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack',0
[05:08] <dtchen> pumpkinseed: sorry, try: amixer set -Dhw:0 'Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack',0 unmute
[05:08] <jake> but it would be hard to do
[05:08] <[esde]> can someone explain step by step?
[05:08] <rainofkayos> @ hosting companies roots are a big issue...
[05:08] <[esde]> how to resize my Ubuntu Netbook Remix
[05:08] <jake> right maco
[05:09] <rainofkayos> especially those with Pr0n
[05:09] <maco> jake: id still say that as long as youre in *normal* (ie: not in really hostile wifi areas like hacker cons) situations and not being stupid, you're pretty safe
[05:09] <OxDeadC0de> anyone know the name of the disk usage analyzer program off hand?
[05:09] <rainofkayos> i agree
[05:09] <rainofkayos> du
[05:09] <pumpkinseed> dtchen: that did it
[05:09] <OxDeadC0de> not du, the gnome one
[05:09] <[esde]> conky
[05:09] <rainofkayos> isn't there a GUI installed for that by default?
[05:09] <rainofkayos> not even conky...
[05:10] <dsabecky> OxDeadC0de: baobab
[05:10] <office> Chaoraint these drives are as now ?
[05:10] <pumpkinseed> dtchen: one question, after I typed that in it said "Playback channels: Mono"
[05:10] <rainofkayos> you could use conky too
[05:10] <OxDeadC0de> ahh thank you dsabecky
[05:10] <pumpkinseed> dtchen: how do I change that to stereo? I have 7.1 speakers
[05:10] <dsabecky> OxDeadC0de: No problem.
[05:10] <[esde]> can SOMEONE tell me how to make Ubuntu Netbook Remix bigger?
[05:10] <jake> cool im righting article on network security so thanx
[05:10] <rainofkayos> but i think there is one in ubuntu by default in the menu.. *searching menu*
[05:10] <dtchen> pumpkinseed: you don't
[05:10] <maco> jake: and dtchen is pointing out that browser exploits are still a concern for things like getting the passwords you type into the browser even if not for taking over your machine
[05:10] <Chaorain> office, I'm sorry? I don't understand
[05:10] <dtchen> pumpkinseed: it's a toggle to enable or disable spdif
[05:11] <pumpkinseed> dtchen: so I am stuck in mono?
[05:11] <chuck_> [esde],  if i might suggest download gpated live cd burn iso use it to boot then partition away.
[05:11] <OxDeadC0de> rainofkayos: I would, but I'm running in kde, the gnome usage analyzer is one of the better ones though imo
[05:11] <dtchen> pumpkinseed: for 50% of Audigy owners, it needs to be muted. yours needs to be unmuted.
[05:11] <rainofkayos> =(
[05:11] <dtchen> pumpkinseed: no, disregard the 'mono' tag
[05:11] <pumpkinseed> okay
[05:11] <dtchen> pumpkinseed: it's simply a binary toggle
[05:11] <chuck_> [esde],  gparted
[05:11] <bullgard4> What data is stored in /var/log/daemon.log?
[05:11] <Callum_> >_>
[05:11] <Chaorain> office, I just did the fdisk -l
[05:11] <pumpkinseed> dtchen: one last thing... why in the world did it just spontaneously do this?
[05:11] <rainofkayos> bullgard4: daemons log to that log file
[05:11] <Callum_> "Ubuntu Servers" is just freenode
[05:11] <Callum_> ?
[05:12] <Callum_> damnit...
[05:12] <office> Chaorain, One of these disk will remove ? or no
[05:12] <jake> so they can get system passwords or just passes for social networking sites
[05:12] <office> Chaorain, with partition are the /boot partition
[05:12] <dtchen> pumpkinseed: some application flipped it
[05:13] <pumpkinseed> dtchen: wow... I love linux
[05:13] <pumpkinseed> dtchen: thanks for your help though!!!
[05:13] <Callum> um...
[05:13] <Callum> hi
[05:13] <Tyrath> ever since upgrading to Ubuntu 9.04 I got the following error when launching mplayer: mplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libartsc.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:13] <rainofkayos> bullgard4: http://en.kioskea.net/faq/sujet-572-what-is-daemon-log
[05:13] <Tyrath> - would anyone know how I can fix this?
[05:13] <Chaorain> office, no /boot partition. just installed in root partition
[05:14] <office> eh
[05:14] <Callum> Ubuntu doesn't want to work when I have my video cards set up in SLI with the proprietary driver...but when I have only one card it works fine
[05:14] <bullgard4> rainofkayos: Why is this separated into a separate log? Why is this separation from syslog necessary or advantageous?
[05:14] <Callum> It's all set up properly in the BIOS, and Ubuntu detects both cards under lspci fine
[05:14] <office> Chaorain, on with partition are the /boot folder with vmlinuz
[05:14] <Callum> X fails to start up with both cards though...
[05:14] <rainofkayos> bullgard4: for a lot of reasons i can see
[05:15] <rainofkayos> bullgard4: in most cases for a normal user maybe nothing beneficial
[05:15] <bullgard4> rainofkayos: Please name the 3 most important ones.
[05:15] <OxDeadC0de> Tyrath: I don't know if it's in 9.04 but in 8.10 to fix that you'd do sudo apt-get install libartsc0
[05:15] <Lancet> hola?
[05:15] <rainofkayos> bullgard4: verbosity, redundancy, select cases
[05:16] <bullgard4> rainofkayos: Your argument "in most cases for a normal user maybe nothing beneficial" is not relevant. A normal user will not look into syslog either.
[05:16] <rainofkayos> a daemon may log one line to syslog or messages where it logs more verbosely to the daemon log
[05:16] <rainofkayos> lol bullgard4 thats true
[05:16] <Chaorain> office, you mean sdd1?
[05:16]  * AngryBananas is afraid of daemons!
[05:16] <rainofkayos> lol i pronounce it like daymons.. people pronounce it like demons..
[05:16] <rainofkayos> it makes me aggrivated lol
[05:16] <office> Chaorain, i dont know ! you must know on what partition have /boot folder
[05:17] <OxDeadC0de> I pronounce it day-mons too rainofkayos ^^, is that the correct way though?
[05:17] <OxDeadC0de> never even thought about it until now
[05:17] <rainofkayos> i also pronounce queue like 'kay'..... people get upset with me
[05:17] <rainofkayos> hehe
[05:17] <office> Chaorain, sudo mkdir /1
[05:17] <office> Chaorain, sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /1
[05:17] <bullgard4> rainofkayos: Just throwing 3 catchwords is no useful argumentation. Can you elaborate what you mean by " verbosity, redundancy, select case" in this discussion? I know these 3 words in general English well.
[05:17] <Chaorain> office, 8.10 boots off of sdd1, trying to boot 9.04 off of sdc1
[05:18] <AngryBananas> haha. yeah, i was confused about that word for years... i pronounced it "kew-wee".
[05:18] <Tyrath> OxDeadC0de: No luck :/
[05:18] <OxDeadC0de> that one for me is "que"
[05:18] <office> Chaorain, ok
[05:18] <rainofkayos> verbosity because like i said its possible that a process would log more information to the daemon log that the messages log.. the messages is kind of catch all.. a lot of stuff logs to messages or syslog..
[05:18] <Chaorain> office, sdc1 is now mounted to /l
[05:18] <OxDeadC0de> Tyrath: aptitude search libarts is anything returned?
[05:18] <Tyrath> Did no-one else have difficulties with mplayer when they upgraded to the latest ubuntu?
[05:18] <Lancet> #irc://irc.mozilla.org
[05:18] <keith> Then you have the crazy English who call a line, a queue
[05:18] <WIGGMPk> Can anyone help me out with this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/168397/ I keep getting this problem every time I try installing these packages.. I dont know how to get this resolved
[05:19] <rainofkayos> possibly that could help you by providing redundany where you can find info in more than one place like messages and daemon log
[05:19] <office> Chaorain, no
[05:19] <Tyrath> OxDeadC0de: all I get is: mplayerthumbs - thumbnail generator for video files on Konqueror
[05:19] <rainofkayos> and special case like maybe you install an application thats a daemon and maybe it only logs to daemon log
[05:19] <office> Chaorain, if boot are sdd1 mount sdd1
[05:19] <calc> keith: well a line is a queue :)
[05:19] <office> Chaorain, sudo mount /dev/sdd1 /1
[05:19] <Cryptic_Donkey>
[05:19] <chuck_> Callum, try this http://rmarcus.wordpress.com/2009/02/02/ubuntu-with-two-graphics-cards/
[05:20] <calc> keith: as long as its not a line that you draw :)
[05:20] <Chaorain> office, I'm running off of sdd1
[05:20] <keith> calc: Oh, I know it is... but it is weird to call it one. :p
[05:20] <rainofkayos> all applications dont log to messages by default
[05:21] <office> Chaorain, with what disk is the system with want to boot ?!@!@?!??!
[05:21] <OxDeadC0de> Tyrath: "locate libartsc.so.0" it may be aRts sound system wasn't put into 9.04 for some odd reason?
[05:22] <office> Chaorain, sdd ?
[05:22] <Tyrath> OxDeadC0de: yeah, get this libartsc.so.0 turns up in locate but when I go to that directory the file isn't there
[05:22] <rainofkayos> and many applications can be configure to log diff verbosity levels diff places under diff conditions, also applications and processes have different logging behaviors by dafault.. possibly something you installed or are running is logging there. ,, possibly even log consolidation if your running a few apps on one host you may find it more convenient to log to check issues or status from
[05:22] <Cryptic_Donkey> I am sticking with 8.10 unitil they eol it
[05:22] <Callum> chuck_: I want them to be running under SLI mode...
[05:22] <OxDeadC0de> Tyrath: run "updatedb" to update the locate database
[05:23] <rainofkayos> Cryptic_Donkey: me too
[05:23] <Callum> I did nvidia-xconfig --sli=on and it still won't start X
[05:23] <Chaorain> office, I want to boot 9.04 off of sdc1 (new HDD), I can boot 8.10 sdd1 (old HDD)
[05:23] <OxDeadC0de> Anyone else here running 9.04 that can get aRts? perhaps it's in a different repo? hmm
[05:23] <Cryptic_Donkey> Callum: Are those Nvodoa or ati GPUs
[05:23] <Chaorain> office, sdc1 is what is giving me problems
[05:23] <calc> OxDeadC0de: i'm pretty sure arts was removed entirely, why mplayer still links to it i have no idea
[05:23] <Callum> NVIDIA
[05:24] <office> Chaorain, now you are from sdd yes ?
[05:24] <Callum> Two NVIDIA GeForce 8500GTs
[05:24] <jake> maco im back now
[05:24] <OxDeadC0de> calc ahh I see, aRts is old as dirt anyway isn't it?
[05:24] <calc> OxDeadC0de: yea and it was always considered crap, even back when i maintained KDE 5+ years ago
[05:24] <Chaorain> office, I am running 8.10 on sdd1 right now
[05:24] <calc> OxDeadC0de: perhaps your copy of mplayer is old?
[05:24] <OxDeadC0de> calc: lol, I agree, it was crap, I never used it myself
[05:24] <Cryptic_Donkey> I am whatchin Bully on HBO
[05:24] <rainofkayos> bout to get some seafood..
[05:24] <rainofkayos> brb
[05:25] <OxDeadC0de> calc: it's Tyrath's that's broken (I still run 8.10 for now)
[05:25] <mudittuli> i have directory with sub directories where all the file extensions have ;1' at the end, how do I mass rename them ?
[05:25] <calc> OxDeadC0de: ah ok
[05:25] <office> Chaorain, and you want in grub menu all this disks ?
[05:25] <calc> Tyrath: are you sure you have an up to date copy of mplayer?
[05:25] <Chaorain> office, just sdc1
[05:25] <calc> Tyrath: arts was dropped from jaunty on feb 26 long before the release
[05:25] <office> Chaorain, ok
[05:25] <Cryptic_Donkey> I am keep 8.10 untill 2011
[05:25] <office> Chaorain, sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /1
[05:26] <Chaorain> office, done
[05:26] <Tyrath> calc: I had whatever came on jaunty, and I reinstalled from source (the latest version) and got exactly the same error message :/
[05:26] <mudittuli> i have directory with sub directories where all the file extensions have ;1' at the end, how do I mass rename them ?
[05:26] <jaypur> ive tried all things to install ubuntu over vista, and i couldn't get it, can someone help me?
[05:26] <Flannel> Chaorain: 8.10 is only supported until April of 2010.  You'll want to use 8.04 to be supported until 2011
[05:26] <calc> Tyrath: the current mplayer build for jaunty was built after arts was already removed from the archive, so its a bit weird that you are seeing that
[05:26] <office> grub-install --root-directory=/1 --force-lba --recheck /dev/sdc
[05:26] <gpryatel> how is the battery life on an asus 1000 netbook compared to my acer aspire 3680? right now i get lest than 1 hr battery :(
[05:26] <Cryptic_Donkey> Tyrath: What was the above mentioned error message
[05:26] <Chaorain> flannel, I'm trying to upgrade to 9.04
[05:27] <office> Chaorain, sudo grub-install --root-directory=/1 --force-lba --recheck /dev/sdc
[05:27] <calc> Tyrath: and i don't see any bug reports about mplayer needing arts still
[05:27] <Tyrath> OxDeadC0de: this is what it gives me using locate: /var/lib/dpkg/info/libartsc0.list
[05:27] <OxDeadC0de> calc: Tyrath: I get the feeling he still has the old mplayer installed, and when he installs the new one it puts it in a different place, try "locate mplayer" and "which mplayer" ?
[05:27] <mudittuli>  anyone ?
[05:27] <calc> Tyrath: actually not only that but mplayer 2:1.0~rc2-0ubuntu18 specifically states it dropped depends on arts
[05:27] <Tyrath> OxDeadC0de: nope, I installed the latest from source
[05:28] <calc> Tyrath: you installed mplayer from source?
[05:28] <Tyrath> calc: bizarre, what should I do?
[05:28] <Tyrath> calc: yes
[05:28] <calc> Tyrath: that is your problem then
[05:28] <calc> Tyrath: you aren't using the ubuntu version
[05:28] <Tyrath> calc: not really, because when I upgraded to jaunty I had the same problem
[05:28] <chuck_> Callum, do not know how to do sli but i have 2 radeon cards running so it is possible in ubuntu
[05:28] <calc> Tyrath: you need to figure out how to recompile it without arts support
[05:28] <Chaorain> office, http://www.paste-it.net/public/re96d9b/
[05:28] <Tyrath> calc: actually
[05:28] <Callum> ok
[05:28] <poet> my Macbook (late 2008) is having a problem with the Jaunty amd64 live cd.  It boots into it just fine, but when I attempt to start ubuntu or install it, an error message pops up and the screen gets stuck at black.  Any udeas?
[05:29] <Tyrath> calc: come to think of it I reinstalled from source before upgrading to jaunty
[05:29] <Tyrath> calc: I had to do that to be able to play m2ts files on mplayer
[05:29] <Cryptic_Donkey> !pastebin }|
[05:29] <calc> Tyrath: so recompile
[05:29] <Chaorain> office, I mounted to l(L) not 1(#)
[05:29] <Cryptic_Donkey> !pastebin | poet
[05:29] <calc> Tyrath: and make sure arts support is disabled and that should fix it
[05:29] <Tyrath> calc: from source? I did after installing jaunty again
[05:29] <Tyrath> calc: ah k
[05:29] <Tyrath> calc: I'll try, thanks
[05:29] <calc> ok
[05:30] <poet> Cryptic_Donkey: wasn't aware it was policy to pastebin longish questions
[05:30] <PeoplesAdvocate> hello everyone, im having a prob turning on my wireless card on my acer aspire one. I installed Ubuntu 9.04 remix. the switch on the bottom right wont turn on the card???
[05:30] <office> Chaorain, ls -l /1/boot
[05:31] <Tyrath> calc: actually calc, do I have to uninstall before I reinstall?
[05:31] <Chaorain> office, http://www.paste-it.net/public/c25780a/
[05:32] <Tyrath> calc: if I do, how do I get rid of mplayer installed from source?
[05:32] <Chaorain> office, thanks for putting up with me being such a newb
[05:32] <office> Chaorain, sudo cat /1/boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:32] <Cryptic_Donkey> poet: paste bin is for debuuging purposes ie debugging scripts and problems related to certian aspects of the operating system ie problems with  xorg and arts etc
[05:33] <Chaorain> office, http://www.paste-it.net/public/c72dce1/
[05:33] <Cryptic_Donkey> !man | poet
[05:34] <poet> Cryptic_Donkey: do you just feel like triggering the bot today?
[05:34] <office> Chaorain, l no 1
[05:34] <bullgard4> How to swtch off Samba (nmbd and smbd) conveniently temporarily? (I would like to test what traffic remains between two Ubuntu computers in a LAN.)
[05:34] <office> Chaorain, L
[05:34] <ziroday> bullgard4: sudo /etc/init.d/samba stop
[05:34] <damagedprince> how do i cinnect to vbox channel
[05:34] <office> Chaorain, /L
[05:34] <calc> Tyrath: you can't easily get rid of things installed from source, which is one of the big reasons to never do that, you will just have to install over the top again and hope it works
[05:35] <office> Chaorain, cat /l/boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:35] <calc> Tyrath: generally using packages is much a better idea :)
[05:35] <ziroday> bullgard4: or sudo service samba stop
[05:35] <calc> Tyrath: or set it up to install into a subdir under /opt
[05:35] <office> Chaorain, copy and paste this line
[05:35] <Chaorain> office, http://www.paste-it.net/public/c9600e4/
[05:35] <Chaorain> office, http://www.paste-it.net/public/c9600e4/
[05:35] <poet> is there any way to get verbose or debug output from the LiveCD?
[05:35] <Tyrath> calc: yeah, I know, but generally they take off so many features...
[05:35] <damagedprince> i need help with vbox
[05:35] <Tyrath> calc: I also use checkinstall - don't know how that changes things...
[05:35] <ziroday> poet: what area?
[05:35] <bullgard4> ziroday: How long will your command be effective? Will it perpetuate even after a restart of the computer?
[05:35]  * calc just uses totem to play m2ts files
[05:36] <calc> Tyrath: doesn't checkinstall produce a package you install?
[05:36] <Tyrath> calc: maybe cause it installs in a package form it's better? i don't know
[05:36] <office> Chaorain, it's ok
[05:36] <ziroday> bullgard4: no, it will remain until you either turn samba back on or restart your computer
[05:36] <Tyrath> calc: yep
[05:36] <poet> ziroday: I'm trying to narrow down reasons why the LiveCD doesn't work correctly on my Macbook
[05:36] <Chaorain> office, so try it?
[05:36] <ziroday> poet: bootup?
[05:36] <calc> Tyrath: yea then you can just remove the package that is much better than just doing a regular install
[05:36] <office> Chaorain, then set in bios this disk to first to boot
[05:36] <bullgard4> ziroday: Thank you very much for your help.
[05:36] <poet> ziroday: bootup is fine, but starting the install or LiveCD fails
[05:36] <calc> Tyrath: regular make install just copies directly into your filesystem which then it is hard to remove
[05:36] <Tyrath> calc: oh? how do I do that?
[05:37] <ziroday> poet: wait, so it boots into the livecd environment just fine but you can't start the installer?
[05:37] <calc> Tyrath: either use a package manager or dpkg --purge (package name)
[05:37] <Chaorain> office, K. If I'm not back in 15 min it went ok
[05:37] <office> Chaorain, or unplug another disk.. save only the new
[05:37] <Tyrath> calc: I just typed make uninstall and make clean (to get rid of the installation files for the reconfigure
[05:37] <m_> i have problem to do visual effect extra
[05:37] <freazer> Hi! I split my MDADM software raid (mirror level 1) and I'm trying to view the volumes separately in the same machine. Unfortunately I also wrapped them inside an LVM2 container, and I'm getting there error: " Found duplicate PV ..." - can anybody help me mount them despite this?
[05:38] <m_> please help me
[05:38] <Tyrath> calc: so basically checkinstall allows me to make .deb files then?
[05:38] <poet> zirodoay: the installer AND LiveCD will start, but an error message on the console pops up (disappears too quickly to read) and then the screen just hangs black
[05:38] <WIGGMPk> Can anyone take a look at this problem for me? http://paste.ubuntu.com/168397/ I am getting dependency problems while installing these packages out of Add/Remove and do not know how to fix them.
[05:38] <office> freazer, unactiv this volume on lvm2
[05:38] <poet> ziroday: so no, I can't start the LiveCD environment
[05:39] <tesseracter> hi, every time i go to open a file (the file dialog box?) the application freezes for about 30-60 seconds before continuing an normal. this is extremely frustrating. help?
[05:39] <office> freazer, vgchange -a n labelofthisvolume
[05:39] <ziroday> poet: right, press ALT+F1 to see the debug messages
[05:39] <FloridaGuy> man ubuntu has approved in preformence on 9.04...fast
[05:41] <Lancet> o.o
[05:41] <civpro> i got a Geforce 8300 and im not sure if its the monitor or the graphics card that is coming up "mode is not supported, is there a place that i can force the monitor to display a certain ratio?
[05:42] <civpro> im using a samsung 52in lcd tv
[05:42] <civpro> any advice would be appreciated
[05:42] <tesseracter> civpro, what drivers are you using?
[05:43] <billybigrigger_> civpro::: try nvidia-xconfig
[05:43] <civpro> tess, i have no idea, when i boot up im just getting "mode is not supported" on the screen
[05:43] <billybigrigger_> civpro::: might have to install it
[05:43] <civpro> billy ok
[05:43] <newuser> what size for linux swap file.  CPU= Intel quad core q6600 with 2 gb ram.  Should swap be 2gb or greater?
[05:43] <billybigrigger_> civpro::: manually edit your xorg.conf
[05:44] <billybigrigger_> civpro::: if you can't even boot, its trying to use a resolution that your monitor doesn't support
[05:44] <civpro> where is xorg.conf located at, the /etc directory?
[05:44] <billybigrigger_> civpro::: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:44] <office> billybigrigger_, probably he dont know how edit xorg.conf
[05:44] <tesseracter> civpro, xorg.conf is the thing that determines the resolution of the monitor, but that is a messy file to edit. nvidia has a autoconfig program called nvidia-xconfig that usually works mell
[05:44] <civpro> billy, thanks
[05:44] <bullgard4> newuser: swap=2GB is enough.
[05:44] <calc> Tyrath: it sounds like you said that was what it did
[05:44] <billybigrigger_> civpro::: np
[05:44] <civpro> also i tried sudo gedit but its not working either
[05:44] <freazer> office: and anyone else that will help.. here's my issue: http://pastebin.com/d31ed638d no matter what I do it only sees the one vg and not the other (I did physically unplug both drives, and one at a time renamed their vg and lv's to different things)
[05:44] <calc> Tyrath: i've never used checkinstall any time i've need a package i just make my own
[05:45] <billybigrigger_> civpro::: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:45] <civpro> i got the server edition installed, what editor by default is installed?
[05:45] <billybigrigger_> civpro::: nano
[05:45] <civpro> thanks
[05:45] <tesseracter> billybigrigger_, editing xorg.conf might leave him at a command prompt, and while i could manage, it might leave some people stuck.
[05:45] <gb__> hi all
[05:45] <repnop> anyone else seeing ntfs-3g write at only 325KB/s when you have over 200GB free?
[05:45] <billybigrigger_> tesseracter::: true but he doesnt have a working xorg to begin with
[05:45] <ziroday> civpro: if I were you I would consider installing the closed nvidia drivers, and then using ssh -X to access nvidia-settings and access the tv through that
[05:45] <gb__> did anyone have issues installing eclipse-pdt on ubuntu?
[05:45] <billybigrigger_> civpro::: hold up
[05:46] <tesseracter> billybigrigger_, nvidia-xconfig is a better starting point
[05:46] <billybigrigger_> civpro::: my bad, bad habit, sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[05:46] <gb__> repnop:  did you fsck the partition?
[05:46] <billybigrigger_> civpro::: then sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:46] <repnop> gb__: was a clean shutdown etc
[05:46] <billybigrigger_> tesseracter::: he can't boot, he doesn't have X
[05:46] <gb__> still do it
[05:46] <repnop> ntfs-3g had this issue many versions ago
[05:46] <tesseracter> or, 180.5X drivers...
[05:46] <repnop> it's writing to the partition heh
[05:46] <repnop> in the middle of a copy
[05:46] <gb__> repnop:  works ok here at good speed
[05:47] <tesseracter> ftp ftp.nvidia.com
[05:47] <repnop> it's a brand new ntfs partition :P
[05:47] <Rob235> is there a program to mount bin/cue files?
[05:47] <billybigrigger_> when did .5X come out? i only have .44
[05:47] <repnop> i've had enough trouble with ntfs-3g i'll be glad to get away from desktop linux for awhile :)
[05:47] <gb__> repnop:  lol  nope , go back to winblows?
[05:47] <repnop> yep win 7 :P
[05:47] <mib_ye5sb7tq> Rob235  loop
[05:47] <ziroday> civpro: as you can there are many ways to go around this :). What are you aiming to do with this machine?
[05:47] <tesseracter> billybigrigger_, #nvidia and the ftp site have latest release, and pre-release, and beta
[05:48] <gb__> repnop: good luck, ur gonna need it
[05:48] <t3pleni9> Is there any folder browser which returns the exit code on return if run from the terminal?
[05:48] <poet> does anyone know if the installer error messages are documented anywhere?
[05:48] <civpro> ziro, running virtual machines off of it
[05:48] <ziroday> tesseracter: please don't recommend people to install the drivers from nvidia.com
[05:48] <civpro> would like to have a gui though
[05:48] <office> freazer, vgremove keep1
[05:48] <Rob235> thanks
[05:48] <bullgard4> What does "permalink" mean in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/105234?
[05:48] <tesseracter> ziroday, you would rather have them manually edit a xorg file?
[05:48] <billybigrigger_> tesseracter::: o
[05:48] <ziroday> civpro: right, well you will need to install X, press ctrl+alt+F1 to get to a command line, does it appear?
[05:48] <repnop> ziroday:  well 9.04 was a version or two behind last time i checked
[05:48] <office> freazer, its empty group without volumers
[05:49] <civpro> ziro, ill have to go downstairs and try
[05:49] <civpro> 1 sec
[05:49] <ziroday> tesseracter: no, I would rather they installed the closed source drivers from the repo's
[05:49] <billybigrigger_> tesseracter::: don't see the point of using a beta driver when the problem is the current xorg config
[05:49] <ziroday> civpro: sure :), you can also install ssh so you can access your computer from upstairs
[05:49] <ziroday> repnop: that is correct
[05:49] <repnop> i did manual install of .51 on my 9.04 no issues so far.
[05:49] <ziroday> !wfm | repnop
[05:49] <repnop> didn't fix the issue i had with windows not rendering when a bunch are opened right away though
[05:49] <civpro> ziro, ok i have vnc viewer running on here, whats the command to get it up and running
[05:49] <damentz> what is ubuntu's policy on new proprietary drivers?
[05:50] <damentz> do they backport new amd and nvidia drivers?
[05:50] <civpro> just sudo apt-get install vnc-server  ?
[05:50] <ziroday> damentz: they will sometimes, but not often
[05:50] <damentz> 180.53 fixes a lot of issues in 180.44 for instance
[05:50] <tesseracter> billybigrigger_, 1, its not a beta, 2, the nvidia installer creates a new xorg.conf based on your video card.
[05:50] <ziroday> civpro: mmm, ssh would be better. Do sudo apt-get install ssh and nvidia-glx-180
[05:50] <damentz> and 185 fixes a lot of desktop compositing performance issues
[05:50] <mib_ye5sb7tq> damentz envy is likely the best choise to use later drivers
[05:50] <billybigrigger_> tesseracter::: ahh, i use restricted drivers, not nvidia.com's
[05:50] <billybigrigger_> tesseracter::: thats why i have .44
[05:50] <damentz> right, i would just install it myself manually
[05:50] <civpro> i installed 180 and it says it wasnt in use
[05:50] <damentz> but when a new kernel comes in... it's a pain to reinstall
[05:50] <damentz> so i would like it to be in the repo
[05:51] <damentz> especially if it's marked as a stable driver by nvidia
[05:51] <ziroday> civpro: ah, can you gimme 1 sec please :)
[05:51] <billybigrigger_> civpro::: did you restart?
[05:51] <civpro> sure
[05:51] <civpro> and thanks
[05:51] <civpro> billy, yes
[05:51] <freazer> office: that seems scary :-) can I get it back?
[05:51] <chaorain> office, hey thanks it works
[05:52] <office> freazer, no
[05:52] <tesseracter> billybigrigger_, correct. which is easier when upgrading kernels, but harder to figure out if drivers are causing any problems. on a related note, anything above 180.29 has been great for me, below that, and i had problems on my gtx280
[05:52] <civpro> this might help
[05:52] <office> freazer, but keep1 its empty group
[05:52] <damentz> mib_ye5sb7tq, i just wish they would backport drivers more often
[05:52] <ziroday> civpro: okay, have you done mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup already?
[05:52] <office> freazer, its nothing
[05:52] <civpro> Asus M3N78 PRO Motherboard
[05:52] <damentz> more often than not, new versions of the catalyst or nvidia drivers fix issues than break functionality
[05:52] <civpro> ziro, i havent went downstairs yet
[05:52] <civpro> that mb has the video card integrated on it
[05:53] <office> freazer, stop !
[05:53] <tesseracter> damentz, 180.53 is pre-release, to not *quite* stable, just needs more testing before it can be marked as such.
[05:53] <ziroday> civpro: okay, you need to do sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup and then sudo nvidia-xconfig
[05:53] <ziroday> civpro: I have a similar mobo
[05:53] <billybigrigger_> office::: a little slow eh? hehe
[05:53] <mib_ye5sb7tq> damentz most new drivers get applied the the kernel main branch, restricted drivers are outside the development model.
[05:53] <office> billybigrigger_, ;)
[05:53] <tesseracter> ziroday, not that making an extra backup is bad, but nvidia-xconfig makes a backup too :-)
[05:54] <civpro> dont i have to install nvidia-xconfig first?
[05:54] <ziroday> civpro: ah yes, that would help :)
[05:54] <billybigrigger_> heh
[05:54] <ziroday> tesseracter: forgot about that, thanks :)
[05:54] <tesseracter> civpro, if you have nvidia drivers, you have nvidia-xconfig
[05:54] <chaorain> My Desktop fan is going continuous. is there a way to controll it?
[05:54] <office> chaorain, boot works ?
[05:54] <ziroday> tesseracter: no, they are installed seperately
[05:54] <c0ntract0r> chuck_ I fixed it.   I removed the ens1371, reenabled the ac-97 onboard via8235, and added the line "options snd-intel8x0 ac97_quirk=3" to the end of the alsa-base.conf file  Thank you for your help.
[05:54] <chaorain> office, Yep I'm in 9.04 right now
[05:54] <civpro> ok so sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-180 nvidia-xconfig
[05:54] <billybigrigger_> chaorain::: bios?
[05:54] <ziroday> civpro: and ssh
[05:54] <civpro> ok
[05:55] <tesseracter> civpro, type nvidia- then hit tab a couple times, it will show apps starting with that string.
[05:55] <damentz> mib_ye5sb7tq, but they're still as important
[05:55] <civpro> does it autostart or do i have to start them up?
[05:55] <civpro> once installed
[05:55] <billybigrigger_> chaorain::: intel or amd?
[05:55] <mib_ye5sb7tq> damentz well you should be whining to nvidia not ubuntu devs.
[05:55] <ziroday> civpro: once installed do sudo nvidia-xconfig and then restart
[05:55] <tesseracter> ziroday, i'll shut up now, since i dont work with repo vid drivers :-)
[05:55] <chaorain> billybigrigger_, It is Triple booting right now. Windows/8.10 fan is ok but 9.04 fan is always on. Intel.
[05:56] <civpro> ziro, ok
[05:56] <ziroday> tesseracter: :)
[05:56] <billybigrigger_> chaorain::: check /proc/acpi/fan
[05:56] <billybigrigger_> chaorain::: ???
[05:56] <civpro> brb and thanks everyone
[05:56] <damentz> mib_ye5sb7tq, that doesn't make sense, the ubuntu devs choose when to update their packages or not
[05:56] <damentz> nvidia just fixes their drivers asthey go
[05:56] <Entelin> ive got a few questions,  I use windowmaker, what daemon do I need to have running in order to have the gnome background appear and gtk themes as configured in the control center to appear?
[05:56] <tesseracter> hi, every time i go to open a file (the file dialog box?) the application freezes for about 30-60 seconds before continuing an normal. this is extremely frustrating. help?
[05:56] <ziroday> damentz: mib_ye5sb7tq:P this conversation is better suited to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:56] <mib_ye5sb7tq> damentz because the ubuntu devs dont update the drivers, thats upstram.
[05:56] <Entelin> i have it working at home but im on my laptop elsewhere and I just cant remember what one it is
[05:56] <chaorain> billybigrigger_, no files there
[05:57] <chaorain> billybigrigger_, triple boot is temporary
[05:57] <ziroday> Entelin: gnome-settings-daemon?
[05:57] <billybigrigger_> chaorain::: mine either...was hoping you had something in there hehe :P i don't know what to tell you
[05:57] <Entelin> i thought thats what it was,  and I did need that but apparently that doesnt deal with the background
[05:58] <billybigrigger_> chaorain::: i have my cpu overclocked so i run all my fans all the time, cpu fan full out all the time, and the 120mm and 140mm case fans at low to med all the time, but the case fans have a 3 speed switch so...ya i dunno what to tell you :P
[05:58] <chaorain> billybigrigger_, thanks anyway
[05:58] <damentz> mib_ye5sb7tq, right, so they package newer/better versions so users don't have to use envy
[05:59] <billybigrigger_> chaorain::: i see you fixed your boot problem?
[05:59] <ziroday> !latest > damentz
[05:59] <bullgard4> What does "permalink" mean in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/105234?
[05:59] <office> billybigrigger_, i fixed hes problem ;p
[05:59] <DShepherd> whats the ubuntu room for the kernel team?
[05:59] <ziroday> damentz: ubuntu is not rolling release
[05:59] <chaorain> billybigrigger_, yep. now in 9.04
[05:59] <ziroday> bullgard4: it is a link that you can share with people that will always stay the same
[05:59] <fib0nacci> has anyone had any luck opening .xfdl documents or editing us military forms?
[05:59] <ziroday> DShepherd: #ubuntu-kernel
[05:59] <billybigrigger_> chaorain::: what was the problem?
[05:59] <DShepherd> ziroday, thanks
[05:59] <bullgard4> ziroday: Thank you very much for explaining.
[06:00] <chaorain> billybigrigger_, grub did not install properly
[06:00] <billybigrigger_> chaorain::: fun shhtuff
[06:00] <damentz> ziroday, hmm ,ok
[06:00] <FrankQC> My laptop is dualbooted and I was wondering if:  If I accidentally download a Windows virus on Linux, can it be transfered to the Windows partition where it's going to affect Windows once I boot into it?
[06:00] <office> chaorain, maybe you have cpu freq changer module load
[06:01] <ziroday> damentz: and you need to understand that graphics drivers are _very_ volatile, particularly closed source ones. Ubuntu policy is not to update them unless absolutely necessary.
[06:01] <billybigrigger_> FrankQC::: if you copy the virus from the linux fs to the windows fs then yes, you can infect your windows partition
[06:01] <office> then fan goes crazy
[06:01] <ziroday> FrankQC: no, as the virus cannot run under ubuntu
[06:01] <billybigrigger_> FrankQC::: but windows virus' won't affect linux
[06:01] <billybigrigger_> ziroday::: don't say that
[06:01] <FrankQC> billybigrigger and ziroday: Yeah I know they won't affect Linux, but I'm scared that all the potential Windows-downloaded viruses on my Ubuntu machine get "transfered" unintentionally to my Windows partition
[06:01] <damentz> ziroday, hmm
[06:02] <billybigrigger_> ziroday::: no is not the correct answer, a downloaded virus in linux can infect a windows pc if the file/files are copied to the windows partition
[06:02] <damentz> ziroday, so amd's drivers must update occasionally then?
[06:02] <damentz> nvidia's seem to be ok
[06:02] <ziroday> FrankQC: well as long as your windows partition cannot access the linux one, and you don't copy the files onto your windows partition you are fine
[06:02] <billybigrigger_> FrankQC::: unless you copy them yourself, they can't transfer themeselves
[06:02] <Entelin> billybigrigger_, they wont effect windows so long as you dont run them yourself,  they cant do anything to you if you dont touch them
[06:03] <ziroday> damentz: sorry, I don't follow? They only update the drivers if a SRU is granted, reading the SRU guidelines will explain the conditions for the update
[06:03] <billybigrigger_> Entelin::: thats what i said
[06:03] <FrankQC> ziroday: My Windows can access my Linux one.
[06:03] <ziroday> FrankQC: if you want to scan for windows viruses you can use ClamAV
[06:03] <billybigrigger_> FrankQC::: your fine
[06:03] <Entelin> i didnt read the whole conversation lol
[06:03] <Tyrath> calc: ok, mplayer's working fine now :D. only I can't play m2ts files :/
[06:03] <FrankQC> So I'm fine even if my Windows partition can access (read/write) in the Linux's ext3?
[06:03] <billybigrigger_> FrankQC::: like everyone else said, don't touch them, it doesn't matter if windows can see linux and vise versa as long as you don't copy the virus to the windows partition
[06:04] <Tyrath> calc: but yeah, that's not too much of a bid deal cause I can use vlc
[06:04] <FrankQC> Alright
[06:04] <FrankQC> Wow IRC is really useful!
[06:04] <FrankQC> Thanks a bunch guys!
[06:04]  * D3f0 is away: Ausente por el momento
[06:04] <ziroday> !away > D3f0
[06:04] <billybigrigger_> FrankQC::: np
[06:04] <Tyrath> calc: also the latest openoffice I downloaded from debs and it seemed to install but didn't show up anywhere
[06:04] <damentz> ziroday, ok well sorry, i run exclusively rolling release distributions on my laptop or frozen distributions with frequent backports
[06:04] <ohzie> Alright so I added this drive to fstab as rw, and it still mounts as ro.
[06:04] <office> FrankQC, http://www.fs-driver.org/download/Ext2IFS_1_11a.exe
[06:04] <damentz> ziroday, i wasn't aware that ubuntu had a very strict backport policy
[06:04] <fib0nacci> has anyone had any luck opening .xfdl documents or editing us military forms?
[06:05] <FrankQC> office: Yea that's what I'm using
[06:05] <Tyrath> calc: so, yeah, basically do launch it I have to find a .doc or .xls file and open it then open a new file which is very annoying :/
[06:05] <ziroday> damentz: well ubuntu does do backports, but no backports aren't updated that often (and the SRU does not apply to backports). If you really must have the latest driver the Xorg team have several ppa's
[06:05] <office> FrankQC, ntfs-3g on linux to acces ntfs part read/write
[06:05] <ziroday> ohzie: are the permissions of the mountpoint rw?
[06:06] <ohzie> /dev/sdd1 /mnt/usbfs vfat rw,umask=0000,uid=500 0 0 <--That's my fstab line. I think I did it right
[06:06] <FrankQC> office: I didn't install ntfs-3g on Linux
[06:06] <FrankQC> office: I only installed it on Windows to access partition
[06:07] <ziroday> ohzie: remove the uid and umask lines, and make sure /mnt/usbfs is rw by everyone
[06:07] <office> FrankQC, ntfs-3g its in standard install of ubuntu
[06:07] <simone> ciao
[06:07] <FrankQC> office: What if I didn't enable it, haha
[06:08] <Cryptic_Donkey> I just finished the introduction to man
[06:08] <FrankQC> office: And even if it was enabled, the Windows virus wouldn't be able to execute in Linux so I don't know how it would be able to transfer from partition to partition
[06:09] <office> FrankQC, how they transfer if not executed
[06:09] <FrankQC> office: how then
[06:09] <ohzie> ziroday, It won't let me change the permissions.
[06:09] <wcdl> hey all i'd like to know if there is a way to connect wireless from a network and wired from another one
[06:09] <FrankQC> office: I woudln't be transfering them manually haha
[06:10] <office> ohzie, what do you want do ?
[06:10] <office> mount /dev/sdd1 to /mnt/usbfs with rw for everyone ?
[06:10] <ohzie> office, I want to be able to automount my usb hard drive and give it read/write access to the entire system.
[06:10] <ohzie> Yes
[06:10] <ziroday> ohzie: sudo chmod a+rw /mnt/usbfs
[06:11] <Tyrath> Would anyone know how I can get power manager to beep at me when the comp is low on power?
[06:11] <ohzie> ziroday, Not even an error message, just didn't work.
[06:11] <wcdl>  hey all i'd like to know if there is a way to connect wireless from a network and wired from another one
[06:11] <Tyrath> actually, would anyone know how I can stop the computer suspending when I plug in power
[06:11] <ziroday> ohzie: bleh, not sure soory.
[06:12] <office> ohzie,
[06:12] <office> sudo mount /dev/sdd1 /mnt/usbfs -o rw,user
[06:13] <civpro> ok back
[06:13] <civpro> nvidia-xconfig didnt find anything
[06:13] <civpro> let me use putty to ssh in, 1 sec
[06:14] <ohzie> office, Nope, still read only.
[06:14] <ohzie> I'm really baffled
[06:14] <ohzie> I know that these are the correct way of doing things, but the system will not behave as it's supposed to.
[06:14] <ziroday> civpro: didn't find anything?
[06:14] <office> ohzie, what filesystem are in this partition
[06:14] <office> ntfs ?
[06:14] <ohzie> fat32
[06:15] <ohzie> I mean, I've had this drive for like a month and this is the first time I've ever had this problem
[06:15] <office> ohzie, are you umount first ?
[06:15] <ohzie> office, yes
[06:15] <Cryptic_Donkey> !Ntfs | office
[06:15] <office> then
[06:15] <office> ntfs
[06:15] <office> or fat32
[06:15] <ohzie> office, fat32
[06:15] <Cryptic_Donkey> !Ntfs-3g | office
[06:16] <civpro> ok im in
[06:16] <AngryBananas> d00boont00
[06:16] <ziroday> civpro: and does nvidia-xconfig give any errors?
[06:16] <Cryptic_Donkey> mhansen: are you in washington state?
[06:16] <civpro> zero, sudo apt-get install nvidia-xconfig   found no repo
[06:16] <mhansen> Cryptic_Donkey: Yes.
[06:16] <civpro> 1 sec im ssh'ed in now
[06:17] <civpro> let me see exact error
[06:17] <jamie> join #geodjango
[06:17] <Guest98767> #geodjango
[06:17] <civpro> couldnt find package nvidia-xconfig
[06:17] <office> ohzie, mount /dev/sdd1 /mnt/usbfs -o remount,rw,user -t vfat
[06:17] <ziroday> civpro: hmm, do you have universe enabled?
[06:17] <office> sudo or root
[06:18] <civpro> ziro how do i check?
[06:18] <Cryptic_Donkey> well excuse me jamie and Guest98767
[06:18] <ziroday> civpro: install pastebinit, and then do pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list Give us the returning url
[06:18] <civpro> ok
[06:19] <ohzie> office, mount: /mnt/usbfs/ not mounted already, or bad option
[06:19] <ohzie> office, I mounted it and then retried that and it worked, checking rw.
[06:20] <ohzie> office, still read only.
[06:20] <civpro> http://pastebin.com/f27af076d
[06:20] <office> ohzie,
[06:20] <office> maybe you have readonly permissions on this folder
[06:20] <office> /mnt/usbfs
[06:20] <ziroday> civpro: hmm, you have universe enabled. Can you do sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get install nvidia-xconfig please
[06:20] <office> you chown or chmod this folder ?
[06:21] <civpro> sure
[06:21] <ohzie> office, I tried to chmod them and it wouldn't let me.
[06:21] <FrankQC> What's the best IRC client?
[06:21] <ohzie> office, chmod: changing permissions of `/mnt/usbfs/': Read-only file system
[06:21] <civpro> same
[06:21] <FrankQC> What are you guys using
[06:21] <ohzie> FrankQC, mirc or irssi
[06:21] <ziroday> civpro: oops, looks like I have made a mistake. nvidia-xconfig no longer appears in jaunty
[06:21] <ohzie> FrankQC, xchat suffices.
[06:21] <office> ohzie, no no no no
[06:22] <office> ohzie, umount this
[06:22] <ziroday> civpro: can you try run sudo nvidia-xconfig anyway please
[06:22] <civpro> ok
[06:22] <office> sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdd1
[06:22] <office> mkdir /mnt/sdd1
[06:22] <ohzie> office, now the device is busy. How can it be busy if it won't let me do anything?
[06:22] <office> leave this folder
[06:22] <office> cd /
[06:22] <ohzie> office, I don't want to format it, it has stuff on it!
[06:22] <ohzie> Oh right duh. -_-
[06:23] <office> then copy stuff to hd
[06:23] <ziroday> civpro: did that work?
[06:23] <civpro> Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf".
[06:23] <civpro> VALIDATION ERROR: Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[06:23] <civpro>                   At least one Device section is required.
[06:23] <civpro> sh: pkg-config: not found
[06:23] <civpro> Backed up file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' as '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'
[06:23] <FloodBot3> civpro: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:23] <civpro> New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[06:24] <office> ohzie, sudo mkdir /1
[06:24] <civpro> there is no data in /etc/x11/xorg.conf doesnt have anything in it
[06:24] <office> ohzie, sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdd1 /1
[06:24] <ozzloy> what's that song that's like "i'm melting i'm melting i'm melting meltdoowwn" in a robotic voice?
[06:24] <civpro> http://pastebin.com/m2e4801b6
[06:24] <Cryptic_Donkey> ohzie: Do you have some form of removable media to back you file up on (i.e. an external hard drive or DVDS , CDs etc
[06:25] <office> ohzie, if still is ro
[06:25] <ohzie> office, Even with the mountpoint being a+rw it still is mounting as read only. -_-
[06:25] <ohzie> Cryptic_Donkey, no, this is my removable hard drive.
[06:25] <ziroday> civpro: bah. okay, do sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add in http://pastebin.com/m2de371c7
[06:25] <civpro> ok
[06:25] <ohzie> errr external
[06:25] <ziroday> civpro: press ctrl+x to save
[06:25] <office> ohzie, then you must create partiotion new
[06:25] <alva> i get this error" "There was an error loading key bindings configuration?  whats it mean?
[06:25] <Cryptic_Donkey> ohzie: How muck data are we talking about ?
[06:25] <ozzloy> what's that song that's like "i'm melting i'm melting i'm melting meltdoowwn" in a robotic voice?
[06:25] <ozzloy> woops
[06:26] <civpro> wait, now it has info in it
[06:26] <ohzie> Cryptic_Donkey, about 40 gigs. I'm just baffled as to why it won't mount properly.
[06:26] <alva> how can I play youtube in firefox? says no flash
[06:26] <civpro> want the pastebin?
[06:26] <alva> !flash
[06:26] <ziroday> civpro: yes please
[06:26] <dmbkiwi> Hi, is there any way to access remote file systems in a gnome file dialog - like kio-slaves in kde?
[06:26] <alva>  i get this error" "There was an error loading key bindings configuration?  whats it mean?
[06:26] <ziroday> dmbkiwi: no, they have to be mounted first
[06:26] <office> alva only flash
[06:27] <alva> office what
[06:27] <ohzie> the folder is RW to everyone, the options I'm passing with mount are rw to everyone, but it still comes out as read only.
[06:27] <alva> ?
[06:27] <Cryptic_Donkey> ohzie: Are running a duelboot machine?
[06:27] <ohzie> Cryptic_Donkey, Heavens no.
[06:27] <dmbkiwi> ziroday: any way to use the kde file dialog in firefox?
[06:27] <alva> how do I play youtube in firefox 9./04?
[06:27] <office> alva youtube play only in flash
[06:27] <alva> office waht??
[06:27] <ziroday> dmbkiwi: no clue :)
[06:27] <office> that !
[06:27] <ziroday> alva: you need to install flash
[06:27] <ziroday> alva: what version of ubuntu?
[06:27] <office> no other options
[06:28] <alva> zirscroll back
[06:28] <alva> how do I play youtube in firefox 9./04?
[06:28] <office> fuck !
[06:28] <office> you must install flashplayer
[06:28] <alva> how?
[06:28] <ziroday> office: don't swear.
[06:28] <Cryptic_Donkey> ohzie: How much space is left on your amain  internal hard drive.
[06:28] <office> are you dumb or what ?
[06:28] <ziroday> alva: go to youtube.com and you should see a little dropdown asking you to install flash
[06:28] <ziroday> office: no need for that
[06:28] <dmbkiwi> grrr, what do people see in gnome?
[06:28] <alva> doesnt work for 9.04
[06:28] <ohzie> Cryptic_Donkey, I have barely enough. :[
[06:28] <civpro> ziroday, http://pastebin.com/m105cc2aa
[06:28] <ziroday> dmbkiwi: ranting in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[06:29]  * billybigrigger_ was just going to pass on his patience award to office...but slowly puts it back on his desk
[06:29] <ohzie> dmbkiwi, XFCE imo
[06:29] <ziroday> alva: okay, install the flashplugin-nonfree package
[06:29] <ziroday> civpro: thanks
[06:29] <dmbkiwi> ziroday: just venting ;-) completely different from ranting.
[06:29] <alva> it says: There is not enough room on the disk to save /tmp/0EtKTNjN.deb.part.
[06:29] <alva> Remove unnecessary files from the disk and try again, or try saving in a different location.
[06:29] <ziroday> civpro: woohoo, it worked!
[06:29] <office> ziroday, how many times she ask thesame ?
[06:29] <LinuxNIT> how come in ubuntu i only have the options for 40/128 bit wep encryption and no 64-bit ?
[06:29] <ziroday> civpro: now restart and you should be good to go
[06:29] <civpro> ok now what?
[06:29] <civpro> how do i remotely restart with ssh?
[06:29] <ziroday> alva: you're disk is full, empty it
[06:30] <ziroday> civpro: sudo reboot
[06:30] <Cryptic_Donkey> ohzie: Doyou have Dual layer dvd recordables/
[06:30] <dmbkiwi> civpro: sudo reboot
[06:30] <ohzie> Cryptic_Donkey, Nah.
[06:30] <brassmaster> LinuxNIT: Doesn't really seem as though it would matter. WEP isn't real security.
[06:30] <alva> empty it  how?
[06:30] <civpro> btw, thanks man
[06:30] <ohzie> Cryptic_Donkey, I'll store what I need off the external in my /var drive and reformat the usb if you think that'll work
[06:30] <ziroday> alva: delete files taking up space. Your hard drive is full, it has no more space.
[06:30] <ohzie> It's a pain in the ass, but it's superior to the alternative
[06:30] <unikon> where on freenode can a person get a hostmask
[06:30] <ziroday> unikon: #freenode
[06:31] <LinuxNIT> brassmaster, well my friend has a 64-bit encrypted network and i cant connect to it... so it seems to be secure for him
[06:31] <philipp> how can i read a .img image on linux?
[06:31] <ziroday> LinuxNIT: WEP encryption is insecure, no matter what you do.
[06:31] <Cryptic_Donkey> ohzie: I think that is our only option on les you can some how  image the drive using dd or partimage/
[06:31] <brassmaster> LinuxNIT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4rAA21NPCI
[06:31] <LinuxNIT> ok i understand its security issues... but that dosent answer my original question
[06:32] <civpro> ok so will ssh show the graphic display?
[06:32] <ziroday> LinuxNIT: I believe 40 == 64
[06:32] <ziroday> civpro: no, you need to go downstairs for that :)
[06:32] <ChrisTwitty> I was wondering can I install ubuntu on a unibody MacBook
[06:32] <office> civpro, no
[06:32] <LinuxNIT> ziroday, how does that work?
[06:32] <civpro> ok brb
[06:32] <ziroday> LinuxNIT: no clue :)
[06:32] <linutic> hello
[06:33] <civpro> thats where vncviewer does come in handy :)
[06:33] <sacarlson> Were should I look to find help in getting my Canon IP1880 printer working on a Ubuntu 8.04 Amd64.   The drivers from Canon are for 32bit.  Google found others with similar printers and problems but not this one.
[06:33] <ziroday> ChrisTwitty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook should be helpful, come back if you're not sure about anything :)
[06:33] <dmbkiwi> civpro: you can display remote applications locally if you allow X over ssh
[06:33] <arvind_khadri> civpro, you can have it
[06:33] <arvind_khadri> civpro, ssh -X
[06:33] <philipp> how can i read a .img image on linux?
[06:33] <linutic> happy mother's day to everyone ^_____^
[06:33] <Kareeser> Hey guys, I'm installing the Ubuntu Minimal CD onto a USB drive with limited space. What kind of performance hit am I going to experience if I avoid a swap partition altogether? Assuming I don't install GNOME or any other window manager...
[06:33] <ChrisTwitty> ziroday: Thanks
[06:33] <linutic> anyway, may i ask something?
[06:33] <arvind_khadri> !ask | linutic
[06:33] <Kareeser> Let's also assume the computer in question has a decent amount of RAM...
[06:33] <ziroday> Kareeser: none as long as you don't run out of ram
[06:33] <linutic> i have a problem with my Skype
[06:33] <Kareeser> ziroday: perfect, that's what I needed to know.
[06:33] <LinuxNIT> ziroday, do you know the difference between 128-bit and 128-bit passphrase?
[06:34] <linutic> I can't make a call
[06:34] <ziroday> Kareeser: once you're out of ram the thing will just crash
[06:34] <Kareeser> ziroday: *gulp*
[06:34] <philipp> how can i read a .img image on linux?
[06:34] <civpro> still in textmod
[06:34] <civpro> mode*
[06:34] <Kareeser> ziroday: any warnings in place? :P
[06:34] <ziroday> LinuxNIT: err somewhat, passphrase wants a passphrase whilst 128 bit just wants the key
[06:34] <ziroday> Kareeser: not that I know of, keep an eye on free -m :)
[06:34] <ziroday> civpro: do startx
[06:34] <arvind_khadri> civpro, you need to enable X forwarding
[06:34] <arvind_khadri> !ssh | civpro
[06:34] <philipp> how can i read a .img image on linux?
[06:34] <Cryptic_Donkey> linutic: Wpa + psk with 64 or 128 bit pass phrases
[06:35] <Kareeser> philipp: burn it onto a CD
[06:35] <ziroday> LinuxNIT: feel free to PM the key/passphrase and I'll take a guess at which one it is :)
[06:35] <civpro> have to install xinit
[06:35] <philipp> yes
[06:35] <TheFunkbomb__> help
[06:35] <office> philipp, mouint -o loop
[06:35] <office> maybe works
[06:35] <ziroday> civpro: have you install X yet?
[06:35] <philipp> office please give me the entire syntax
[06:35] <brassmaster> LinuxNIT: forums suggest using wicd. That may be an option for you. It supports 64-bit WEP.
[06:35] <Kareeser> jeeez, installing onto a USB stick is SLOOOW
[06:35] <linutic> Problem with Audio Playback
[06:35] <sacarlson>  linutic: can you text chat in your skype?  I had to change the setting of the default audio card.
[06:36] <civpro> ziro, this was server version, so do
[06:36] <civpro> i was testign with desktop cd
[06:36] <office> philipp, sudo mount -o yourfile.img /mnt
[06:36] <josspyker> upgrade 8.04->8.10, network manager disappeared
[06:36] <civpro> to see if it was the same issue
[06:36] <ziroday> civpro: ah, you need to install X and a DE.
[06:36] <linutic> i can text chat..but i'm having troubles with the audio
[06:36] <civpro> ok de also
[06:36] <office> philipp, sudo mount -o loop yourfile.img /mnt
[06:36] <Kareeser> josspyker: try running "nm-applet" in terminal?
[06:36] <office> im forget loop
[06:36] <office> ;p
[06:36] <ziroday> civpro: which DE would you like to install?
[06:36] <brassmaster> LinuxNIT: Although if you like your friend, you might mention to them the problem with running a WEP network and fix this issue in a way that benefits both of you.
[06:36] <civpro> gnome
[06:36] <civpro> thats already installed
[06:36] <Kareeser> civpro: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:36] <philipp> dosent matter
[06:37] <josspyker> Kareeser, I will that
[06:37] <josspyker> try
[06:37] <Kareeser> josspyker: :)
[06:37] <civpro> its installing
[06:37] <ziroday> Kareeser: I wouldn't jump to that, civpro probably doesn't want/need the entire ubuntu desktop and co. :)
[06:37] <linutic> what should i do?
[06:37] <civpro> oops
[06:37] <Kareeser> ziroday: hm.... good point.
[06:37] <civpro> crap
[06:37] <civpro> no i didnt
[06:37] <sacarlson> linutic: goto in skype options>sound device   and try some other settings
[06:37] <ziroday> civpro: press ctrl+c :)
[06:37] <Kareeser> civpro: ctrl-c!!
[06:37] <linutic> ok..
[06:37] <LinuxNIT> brassmaster, the really wierd part is that when i try to connect in Vista it wants me to login with a username and password (which i know his network dosent use)
[06:37] <linutic> wait
[06:37] <civpro> done
[06:38] <civpro> wow
[06:38] <ziroday> civpro: do sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment
[06:38] <philipp> office... geht a error messge that says i have to enter a data system
[06:38] <civpro> ok
[06:38] <LinuxNIT> ziroday, the key is  a1tks3nuyv those are the characters just not in the right order ;)
[06:38] <Eevee> how can I switch back to notification-daemon (jaunty)?  can't figure out where notify-osd is actually run from
[06:38] <linutic> hahaha..it did work sacarlson
[06:38] <linutic> thanks! ^_____^
[06:38] <brassmaster> LinuxNIT: Well, if you've been around Windows long enough, you should know not to expect consistent network configuration interfaces there either.
[06:38] <ziroday> LinuxNIT: okay, is it equally jumbled up when in the right order?
[06:38] <Kareeser> Eevee: notify-osd superceeded notification-daemon, I believe
[06:38] <office> philipp, show me this error
[06:39] <Kareeser> Eevee: which means I don't think notification-daemon is installed anymore. double check fo rme :P
[06:39] <civpro> ok so tell me really quick, with putty show do i do ssh X?
[06:39] <LinuxNIT> ziroday, what do you mean?
[06:39] <ziroday> LinuxNIT: its fine
[06:39] <tech> anyone know how to setup pptpd
[06:39] <pumpkinseed> i swear... why is it that every stupid thing one wants to do in ubuntu is impossible
[06:39] <linutic> anyone here who uses eeebuntu?
[06:39] <civpro> putty how*
[06:39] <Eevee> Kareeser: yeah I already had a look, both are still installed
[06:39] <Kareeser> pumpkinseed: unlucky? :)
[06:39] <TheFunkbomb__> can someone help me add unallocated space to my ext3 partition?
[06:39] <philipp> office mount: Sie müssen den Dateisystemtyp angeben
[06:39] <Cryptic_Donkey> LinuxNIT: The only way you would have to iplement radius in order to have really secure network
[06:39] <pumpkinseed> i'm trying to play a movie in vlc and when I use headphones the volume drops practically to zero
[06:39] <brassmaster> !flame | pumpkinseed
[06:39] <ziroday> Eevee: you need to install err gnome-stracitella (or whatever its called)
[06:40] <office> philipp, i dont know german :)
[06:40] <office> philipp, sudo modprobe loop
[06:40] <maco> Eevee: gnome-stracciatella
[06:40] <Eevee> ehh no way I can just flick something in a config file?
[06:40] <Kareeser> Eevee: no clue how to go back to notification-daemon... what problems are you exp. with notify-osd?
[06:40] <office> philipp, sudo mkdir /1
[06:40] <ziroday> maco: thanks :)
[06:40] <civpro> pumpkin, i prefer 1337 player, not sure if there is a linux equivalent, but im pretty sure
[06:40] <tech> I am looking for help installing pptpd. I have it running however the windows client doesn't connect
[06:40] <maco> ziroday: two c's or just gnome-strac<tab>
[06:40] <pumpkinseed> its 1:40am here and I can't play this viua speakers
[06:40] <office> philipp, sudo mount -o loop file.img /1
[06:40] <ziroday> maco: not running jaunty (yet)
[06:40] <linutic> anyway..brb
[06:40] <Kareeser> tech: what's pptpd? maybe there's an alternative
[06:40] <maco> ziroday: eh i have it memorized now after pasting it from a shell so many times
[06:40] <tech> Kareeser  vpn server
[06:41] <ziroday> maco: haha
[06:41] <Kareeser> tech: it's in the ubuntu repositories. Have you tried "apt-get install pptpd"?
[06:41] <maco> ziroday: but you can tell people: sudo apt-get  install gnome-strac<tab>
[06:41] <ziroday> LinuxNIT: you still with me?
[06:41] <Eevee> Kareeser: using dual monitors, and the notifications show up on the one I look at about 10% of the time because I don't have a top panel.  proposed solution appears to be gconf to make them follow focus, which is inconsistent with the default and still not what I want
[06:41] <LinuxNIT> still here
[06:41] <tech> Kareeser yes I have it installed, and followed the  instructions to do chap secrets and all, however the windows client doesn't seem to see it
[06:41] <Kareeser> Eevee: Ah, right, that's a "design feature"... kinda dumb, eh?
[06:41] <TheFunkbomb__> can someone help me add unallocated space to my ext3 partition?
[06:42] <ziroday> LinuxNIT: you want WEP 40/128-bit key
[06:42] <Eevee> Kareeser: also the queuing is painful when an app spits out several rapid-fire (such as mashing next-song more than a couple times)
[06:42] <pumpkinseed> civpro: fantastic, but I'm not going to install a new piece of software especially dedicated to playing movies at night on headphones as not to wake my neighbors. call me picky but I would imagine VLC could fulfill the task of playing movie audio via headphones at a decent db
[06:42] <civpro> pumpkin, can i make a suggestion to you?
[06:42] <Eevee> Kareeser: yeah I don't really understand why they can't just be "near the tray", whatever that may mean
[06:42] <Kareeser> tech: I'm no help there, sorry.
[06:42] <pumpkinseed> shoot
[06:42] <civpro> xbmc kicks ass, not only for music, but for movies also
[06:42] <pumpkinseed> oh yeah!
[06:42] <civpro> no codec installs to worry about
[06:42] <Kareeser> Eevee: Apparently, it's the place where it'll be least obtrusive. which makes sense, in a way
[06:42] <lwizardl> I was wondering generally what does a traditional server (in a rack server case like 1U or 2U) cost to run in electricity ?
[06:42] <pumpkinseed> i actually have xbmc installed
[06:42] <brassmaster> pumpkinseed: Does it happen on every file you use?
[06:42] <pumpkinseed> hehe
[06:42] <civpro> i have it installed on my xbox
[06:42] <Kareeser> Eevee: As for dual-monitors, they just haven't gotten around to that. I'd love to move mine to my secondary monitor too...!!
[06:43] <pumpkinseed> that program IS awesome!
[06:43] <civpro> yes
[06:43] <LinuxNIT> ziroday, if i choose that then the connect/ok button stays greyed out
[06:43] <ziroday> lwizardl: this isn't the right place to ask. ##hardware or #ubuntu-offftopic
[06:43] <pumpkinseed> brassmaster: first time I've actually tried
[06:43] <philipp> WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/madwifi, it will be ignored in a future release. office
[06:43] <ziroday> LinuxNIT: hmph
[06:43] <LinuxNIT> ziroday, if i choose 128-passphrase it fails to connect
[06:43] <Eevee> Kareeser: well they're so unobtrusive that now I never see them  8)  my second monitor usually has a fullscreen terminal on it, so I just have a black bubble with white text show up on a black window with white text
[06:43] <Cryptic_Donkey> ziroday: LinuxNIT  the most secure  ilpementation of wifi is wpa  with psk and a 64 to 128 bit passphrase
[06:43] <yanghui> 1628.408425] end_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 0
[06:43] <yanghui> [ 1628.408432]  unable to read partition table
[06:43] <yanghui> [ 1628.408891] sd 49:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
[06:43] <yanghui> [ 1628.408973] sd 49:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
[06:43] <yanghui> [ 1628.409095] sd 49:0:0:1: [sdc] READ CAPACITY failed
[06:43] <FloodBot3> yanghui: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:43] <yanghui> [ 1628.409097] sd 49:0:0:1: [sdc] Result: hostbyte=DID_NO_CONNECT driverbyte=DRIVER_OK,SUGGEST_OK
[06:44] <civpro> yanghui, use pastebin
[06:44] <pumpkinseed> its happening in xbmc as well
[06:44] <LinuxNIT> Cryptic_Donkey, im not concerned with what is the most secure, i just want to know why i can not connect to my friends network
[06:44] <pumpkinseed> probably because I have 7.1 speakers
[06:44] <ziroday> LinuxNIT: you sure you typed in all 10 chars?
[06:44] <LinuxNIT> yes
[06:44] <Kareeser> Eevee: I do wish that there would be at least some sort of config file to let us move it around... even something messy like that would be better than what's there now
[06:44] <office> philipp, do next what i write
[06:44] <civpro> are you using line out or speaker out pumpkin?
[06:44] <ziroday> Cryptic_Donkey: thank you, I'm sure by now we have hit LinuxNIT over the head enough about it
[06:44] <brianski> this might not be the right channel, but does anyone know how i can replace a few files on an iso with updated versions?
[06:44] <philipp> he says i have to enter a data system office
[06:44] <ziroday> Kareeser: that is planned for karmic
[06:45] <Eevee> Kareeser: well, doing the right thing with no config is fine, as long as it actually does the right thing
[06:45] <LinuxNIT> its not my network, im not the administrator
[06:45] <Kareeser> ziroday: sweeeeet. 5 months to go.
[06:45] <civpro> ya 7.1 is non amplified, because it has an external amp, headsets need line out
[06:45] <philipp> office no a data system type
[06:45] <Kareeser> Eevee: indeed.
[06:45] <ziroday> LinuxNIT: umm, I'm not really sure sorry, that should work (and works over here).  I even have the "Headphone surround effect" checked off in VLC's Audio Preferences
[06:46] <civpro> :P
[06:46] <LinuxNIT> hmm
[06:46] <LinuxNIT> ok thanks
[06:46] <civpro> ok so its xstart?
[06:46] <office> philipp, try  sudo mount -t udf -o loop file.img /1
[06:46] <Hystoriker> can anybody please help me with getting rid of some installed packages. I cannot remove two packages which were not installed correctly durign a previous installation process.
[06:47] <civpro> xinit:  No such file or directory (errno 2):  unable to connect to X server
[06:47] <civpro> xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.
[06:47] <Hystoriker> trying "sudo apt-get purge -f" did not help
[06:47] <Kareeser> Hystoriker: dpkg --configure -a
[06:47] <civpro> let me go downstairs and try again
[06:47] <mrec> hi, is there any trick how to enable wireless on a notebook? for some reason the wireless icon disappeared on the panel and I can't get it online using iwconfig either
[06:47] <Cryptic_Donkey> yanghui: Please install pastebinit
[06:48] <brianski> mrec - maybe you hit the wireless switch by accident?
[06:48] <mrec> lan is able to gather some packets for retrieving the dhcp address but the tcp stack doesn't return any data..
[06:48] <brianski> mrec: were you ever online before with this computer?
[06:48] <mrec> brianski: nope
[06:48] <mrec> yes
[06:48] <philipp> office... mount point does not exist
[06:48] <mrec> but only through wifi
[06:48] <yanghui> thanks
[06:48] <brianski> so what happened around the time your wireless icon went away
[06:48] <office> philipp, did you: sudo mkdir /1
[06:48] <mrec> and ms windows
[06:48] <Hystoriker> Kareeser: that doesn't help either. entering it doesnt give any information back, but the problem remains
[06:48] <office> philipp, ?
[06:49] <philipp> wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0,
[06:49] <Kareeser> Hystoriker: nothing at all? hrm.
[06:49] <philipp>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[06:49] <philipp>        Manchmal liefert das Syslog wertvolle Informationen – versuchen
[06:49] <philipp>        Sie  dmesg | tail  oder so
[06:49] <FloodBot3> philipp: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:49] <nmvictor> Any  idea of a good terminal-based network monitoring package out their.Please PM me,im using irssi and so I might miss the repliess,Just PM me please
[06:49] <pumpkinseed> anyone know how to make headphones play at a decent volume? My speakers are 7.1 so I suspect that may be the issue
[06:50] <office> philipp, then i dont know what type of image is this file
[06:50] <philipp> .img
[06:50] <office> heh
[06:50] <Hystoriker> Kareeser: no, nothing at all. i am working on kubuntu 9.04, if that may be of interest
[06:50] <Kareeser> Hystoriker: then dpkg believes the packages were installed fully. Have you tried uninstalling them with the purge function? apt-get purge [package]
[06:50] <Raf> Hi all
[06:50] <Kareeser> Raf: Hey!
[06:50] <office> philipp, you dont understand ;)
[06:51] <Kareeser> Hystoriker: oooorrr... apt-get install --reinstall [package]
[06:51] <Raf> Can someone please help me configure Nautilus so that I can use it as an FTP/SCP program?
[06:51] <Cryptic_Donkey> philipp: please install pastebinit and use that to post the files related to your query on paste.ubuntu.com
[06:51] <office> Raf, normal
[06:51] <Raf> office, what?
[06:51] <office> Raf, sftp://user:pass@host
[06:51] <office> Raf, sftp://user:pass@host:/folder
[06:52] <Raf> office: thanks, i'll try it.
[06:52] <pumpkinseed> anyone?
[06:52] <office> or scp://user:pass@host:/folder
[06:52] <Kareeser> pumpkinseed: Have you tried looking in the audio preferences?
[06:52] <pumpkinseed> yes.....
[06:52] <Kareeser> pumpkinseed: sorry, not audio preferences... I mean, double clicking the audio icon
[06:52] <pumpkinseed> every single thing is up all the way
[06:52] <Kareeser> pumpkinseed: since the headphone channel is on a different slider
[06:52] <Kareeser> pumpkinseed: you'd want to turn it down... if it's too loud...
[06:53] <pumpkinseed> sound works fine, it just plays super low when I plug in headphones
[06:53] <Cryptic_Donkey> pumpkinseed: Please stae your issue clearly so that others in the cahnnel may better assist you.
[06:53] <Hystoriker> Kareeser: nothing of it works, both times the apt-get returns that no dir file was speciefied and thus it cannot go on
[06:53] <Raf> office: no...
[06:53] <Raf> office: I need to set it up for
[06:53] <Raf> wait
[06:53] <Raf> query office
[06:53] <Kareeser> Hystoriker: can you paste the error into a pastebin so we can see it?
[06:54] <Kareeser> Hystoriker: brb, ask someone else for a while, sorry!!
[06:55] <pumpkinseed> here is the clearest I can state this: I am running Ubuntu 9.04 64bit. I have a Sound Blaster Audigy 4 and 7.1 Speakers. My daemon.conf file is set to 8channel output and my speakers work fine at 7.1, but when I plug in headphones (tested several) the audio output is quiet as a moust (you can hear the audio, but barely). Its late here and I'd like to watch a movie... can anyone help.
[06:55] <pumpkinseed> moust = mouse
[06:57] <pumpkinseed> Kareeser: By the way, just for the record, double-clicking the audio icon (at least in ubuntu 9.04) mutes the sound. Again, the audio speaker icon next to the time up top on the screen.... if you double click it, you MUTE your sound.
[06:57] <MaGicMaX1> anyone here familiar with Wine?
[06:57] <fermulator> kind of
[06:57] <iceroot> !anyone | MaGicMaX1
[06:58] <fermulator> MaGicMaX1: What's the Q?
[06:58] <MaGicMaX1> ok well im noob to wine, i would like to run WoW with it, i have it installed on my windows install, i hear i need to install it with wine, how do i do that?
[06:58] <perscitus> Anyone  know the command to turn off join/leave messages in xchat2?
[06:58] <pumpkinseed> anyone on the headphone issue?
[06:58] <pumpkinseed> or should I format my hard drive and install windows
[06:59] <Cryptic_Donkey> MaGicMaX1: Please check the wine apdata base at winehq.org
[06:59] <m3ment0_> quick question guys: when you install a package (apt-get) and it comes up with an ncurses thing that asks you questions (do you want to enable this service ect)... how can you get back to that config? apt-get reintall doesn't do it, uninstall/install doesn't
[07:00] <fermulator> MaGicMaX1: This is your best bet to start: have a read @ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[07:00] <sexcopter1> hi, is anyone finding pulseaudio is constantly eating cpu (whether audio is playing or not)? It's sitting on around 30-40% for me on a 1.6gig Pentium M laptop.
[07:00] <Eevee> pumpkinseed: did you unhide all the sliders in volume control?
[07:01] <fermulator> sexcopter1: I have ubuntu 9.04 running on an older Athlon XP 3200+ system, and I find it eats 15% CPU while in use (playing audio), but very little while not playing audio
[07:01] <lflashlnzl> is there a way to stop xchat showing when people join and leaving rooms?
[07:01] <fermulator> (figured it was normal)
[07:01] <pumpkinseed> eevee: yes
[07:01] <MaGicMaX1> fermulator: thx for the link, ill take a look
[07:01] <sexcopter1> fermulator: hmm. do you have it set up for network sound (ie sending audio to another computer on a lan)?
[07:01] <m_> somebuddy help to my visual effect extra
[07:02] <Flannel> lflashlnzl: Yeah, right click the tab (the channel tab) and then there's an option for it in one of the menus (properties or something?)
[07:02] <doc|work> hey. I'm trying to use the command line minimal install of ubuntu on an epia box but it's not recognising the network driver. Anyone come across this/
[07:02] <Datz1> Hello, Wikipedia used to have a table with versions and the dates they are supported until. I don't see it now for ubuntu. Is there a time table such as this elsewhere?
[07:02] <doc|work> ?
[07:02] <fermulator> sexcopter1: no, it's default config stuff.
[07:02] <perscitus> Is it possible to move panels in Jaunty? it seems normal dragging of panels dont work anymore
[07:02] <Eevee> m3ment0_: might be dpkg --reconfigure but I'm not sure
[07:03] <Eevee> perscitus: alt-drag
[07:03] <lflashlnzl> Flannel, thanks found it, getting sick of so many people leaving and join
[07:03] <fermulator> perscitus: hold ALT and move
[07:03] <sexcopter1> fermulator: ok, I have the whole network thing going on, which may compound things. thanks anyhow
[07:03] <perscitus> fermulator ->  what about panel items?
[07:03] <Datz1> I wonder if someone deleted the wikipedia graph timetable recently...I will have to see if I can undo it.
[07:03] <fermulator> sexcopter1: oh sorry, ya i don't have any experience with that, but at least you know to expect SOME usage during playback
[07:03] <iceroot> !release | Datz1
[07:04] <perscitus> fermulator ->  ioops ignore hat
[07:04] <fermulator> perscitus: right click, "unlock", right click, "move"
[07:04] <fermulator> ;0
[07:04] <Kareeser> doc|work: what card do you have?
[07:04] <Datz1> iceroot, thanks
[07:04] <Gate> I have an XP/Ubuntu x86/Ubuntu x64 triple boot install, can anyone direct me to a resource or tell me if it is possible to use the debian automagic kernels settings in menu.lst to maintain the GRUB entries for both Ubuntu installs?
[07:04] <m3ment0_> Eevee: ty
[07:04] <fermulator> Gate: I have tip for you
[07:05] <doc|work> Kareeser: I have no clue :) It's an old box I bought second hand, how do I find out?
[07:05] <fermulator> Gate: For my "multiple" installations of OS .. I use the "boot master" method.  Create an extra 128MB (or similar size) ext2 partition.
[07:05] <hateball> What's the proper way to restart network-manager in Jaunty?
[07:05] <perscitus> Gate ->  Why 32 and 64bit Ubuntu?
[07:05] <fermulator> Gate: copy the entire /boot contents from your latest disto (whichever one contains the version of grub you want to use)
[07:06] <Datz1> iceroot: Are releases always updateable through download?
[07:06] <Flannel> Datz1: Yes.
[07:06] <iceroot> Datz1: update and upgrade, yes
[07:06] <fermulator> Gate: modify the "boot master" grub to only contain your OS entries using "chainloader"
[07:06] <Flannel> !upgrade | Datz1
[07:06] <nmvictor> hateball:maybe at the terminal,some commands would do
[07:06] <Kareeser> doc|work: lspci -v
[07:06] <Gate> 32 bit for normal operations, and I am experimenting with x64 still (certain things weren't up to par the last time I tried it, 2 years ago) perscitus
[07:07] <fermulator> Gate: and setup that "boot master" grub to the MBR, and the rest of the grubs go to the partition of each distro
[07:07] <doc|work> Kareeser: hmmm, ok, give me a few mins to boot up the box
[07:07] <fermulator> Gate: make sense? (or do you need more explanation)
[07:07] <doc|work> m_: I have priv msgs blocked
[07:07] <Datz1> iceroot: Thanks again
[07:07] <Gate> interesting fermulator
[07:07] <hateball> nmvictor: Well yes... _which_ ones tho? It used to be /etc/event.d/and so on, but that seems to be gone in Jaunty
[07:07] <Gate> Effectively it defers to each distro for its loading options?
[07:07] <fermulator> Gate: for me, it's nice, that way your "master boot" doesn't contain all those annoying kernel entries, and gives you a nice clean "OS Selector".
[07:08] <perscitus> fermulator ->  couldnt he have boot partition?
[07:08] <fermulator> Gate: exactly;  simple chainloading
[07:08] <sbomer> hi
[07:08] <fermulator> perscitus: no, because if all distros share the same boot partition, it becomes messy
[07:09] <Gate> perscitus: I suspect the versions of Ubuntu would trample each other's Kernel images
[07:09] <civpro> guys its still now showing up
[07:09] <fermulator> Gate: indeed
[07:09] <perscitus> fermulator ->  Sounds like bug suggestion.
[07:09] <pumpkinseed> what do you call an OS that requires you spending 45% of your uptime fixing bugs (or trying to) and scouring the internet for arcane fixes? Ubuntu
[07:09] <Gate> fermulator: could I simplify that method to simply placing a chainload command in my current menu.lst that defers to the x64's?
[07:09] <Cryptic_Donkey> I try to stick with the long term  support release
[07:10] <Kareeser> pumpkinseed: don't be hatin', lots of us have no problems out of the box
[07:10] <Cryptic_Donkey> I try to stick with the long term  support releases
[07:10] <pumpkinseed> i doubt that
[07:10] <Kareeser> meh.
[07:10] <perscitus> Cryptic_Donkey ->  until you buy hardware that only new kernels support.
[07:10] <fermulator> Gate: ya for sure you could if you don't want to mess around with creating anothe rpartition and re-installing grub.  (CAVEAT:  If your 32bit distro ever gets buggered, you'll have to fix the mbr to get into the x64 bit...) but otherwise you'd be OK
[07:11] <civpro> how can i use pastebinit, with a log file?
[07:11] <MaGicMaX1> question about runing WoW with wine, ive decided to copy my windows install of WoW over, should i just put it in my home folder?
[07:11] <Gate> Thanks fermulator, I am off to try it!
[07:11] <fermulator> Gate: sweet! good luck
[07:11] <Cryptic_Donkey> I stick to the thirty two bit release
[07:12] <civpro> can someone give me a hand with getting my display working please?
[07:12] <nmvictor> civpro:you open the log file,copy the contents and paste them at pastebin
[07:12] <Kareeser> civpro: what's the error?
[07:12] <civpro> nm, its very long and im ssh'ed in
[07:12] <Tyrath> I installed the new openoffice.org version 3.1 and am failing at uninstalling it - i installed it via deb, but there's a stack of packages and sudo dpkg -r * won't work
[07:12] <civpro> so i can talk on here at the same time
[07:12] <clode> Hi all
[07:12] <civpro> kereeser, many many errors
[07:13] <clode> I've got a quick question about upgrading to 9.04
[07:13] <Kareeser> civpro: right, go to pastebin.ubuntu.com, and paste your messages there. then paste the link here
[07:13] <nmvictor> clode hi
[07:13] <Hystoriker> Kareeser: sorry, i was away for a sec. look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/168156/, i have tried to translate my german output a little
[07:13] <Eevee> MaGicMaX1: well it would have to go under the wine c: drive, ~/.wine/drive_c
[07:13] <Tyrath> also, the new ubuntu won't let me move my windows, unless I vouch for no extra effects :/
[07:13] <Kareeser> Hystoriker: that's with apt-get purge?
[07:13] <clode> I own a samsung nc10 with intrepid ibex working properly
[07:13] <clode> any real risk by upgrading to the last version ?
[07:14] <zvacet> Tyrath: sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq package_name
[07:14] <Kareeser> clode: minimal. unless you have an intel card
[07:14] <nmvictor> civpro:maybe you need to paste only the important part,regarding your problem
[07:14] <Kareeser> clode: gfx card, that is.
[07:14] <smr904> does anybody know how to make the screen resolution permanent? - each time I log in I have a 1025x768 res. then I have to set it to 1280x1024 next time i login I have to do the same all over again...
[07:14] <clode> hum ok
[07:14] <smr904> any ideas?
[07:14] <clode> I will have to check that
[07:14] <clode> thx
[07:14] <Kareeser> smr904: are you familiar with xrandr?
[07:14] <Hystoriker> Kareeser: yes, with "sudo apt-get purge -f"
[07:14] <Tyrath> zvacet: and what if it's a bunch of different packages?
[07:14] <Kareeser> Hystoriker: blaaah...
[07:14] <fermulator> clode: also, if you have ATI you need to pre-configure some stuff before upgrading
[07:14] <evilGUI> Hello, I really need some help this has been driving me insane... I have a E5200 2.5Ghz CPU and a 8600GT using the 180 drivers in Jaunty. In VLC or Totem if I play a video from the hdd I get shuttering/choppy video.
[07:14] <fermulator> clode: nvidia should work without problems
[07:15] <smr904> Kareeser: heard of it.. but people say do it on your own risk..
[07:15] <MaGicMaX1> Eevee: i cant seem to browse there... i dont see a C drive
[07:15] <Cryptic_Donkey> clode: Please post a review of thae afformentioned samsoung model on th elinuxlaptop wiki so that others may benifit from your exsperiences
[07:15] <smr904> Kareeser: what shall I do with it?
[07:15] <Kareeser> Hystoriker: I've suggested all I can think of, so at this point, try posting a message to ubuntu forums
[07:15] <clode> ok Well actually I think it's an intel because it's a netbook
[07:15] <clode> that I've got
[07:15] <evilGUI> It happens with any video format.
[07:15] <Kareeser> smr904: you can change your resolution in it from the command line. Now, with that said, you can make a script that'll do that every bootup
[07:15] <LinuxDemon> Hey folks!
[07:15] <evilGUI> I've reinstalled the drivers reinstalled gstreamer as well as the players :/
[07:15] <clode> Cryovat Cryptic_Donkey : ok I'll do that
[07:15] <Kareeser> smr904: like... "xrandr --output VGA --mode 1280x1024"
[07:15] <Hystoriker> Kareeser: thanks for your help
[07:16] <evilGUI> Any ideas?
[07:16] <LinuxDemon> I have a question about mail servers when someone has a minute, pelase?
[07:16] <nmvictor> LinuxDemon:Hey dude
[07:16] <Kareeser> Hystoriker: sorry I couldn't fix it :(
[07:16] <smr904> Kareeser: I see.. what about edditing manually the xorg.org once and for good?
[07:16] <LinuxDemon> Hey there!
[07:16] <_newbie4> hello how are you, etc.  i need to reinstall my system ( <3 ) and I was wondering two things:  how can i make a list (preferably human readable, at the least apt readable) of what i have installed, and 64-bit or 32bit.  64 wasn't there in 8.10, so I'm asking agan
[07:16] <Kareeser> smr904: Also a good idea. You may need to create something called a "modeline"
[07:16] <Cryptic_Donkey> Hystoriker: Ypou would be beter server to use linuxquestion.org and pleases search the site before making posting your problem.
[07:16] <clode> bye