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 Has anyone installed Ubuntu Touch on Xiaomi Mi A3?, Can I do this without a PC?
 @Silvershock [Someone somewhere clearly got it to work but for me it seems to constantly reboo …], Uncheck the option to flash the bootloader and boot into the recovery for it
 you also might have to format the cache partition
 Yeah I saw the instructions for those on the wiki but they didn't seem to have any effect.
 [Edit] Yeah I saw the instructions for those on the forum but they didn't seem to have any effect.
 It's a shame. I'd make a fresh image to replace the ones i flashed from XDA Dev, but the repo used to make the images doesn't appear to exist any longer, and the author says it was a "testing project". It ruddy works though.
 maybe is a bug in the current installler, someone in the welcome group had better luck with v 4.8 i think
 @mateosalta [maybe is a bug in the current installler, someone in the welcome group had bette …], if i use an older installer, i still get current code, yeah?
 yeah
 also maybe try the snap if you can, people have the best luck with that I think
 using the snap beta channel yeah
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 @Charlie Malkowski [<reply to media>], Charlie is posting scamms
 Charlie got sent out of room by force
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 pls anyone can advise?
 I am trying to install Ubuntu Touch on Nexus 5
 I have done it with no problems before on nexus 5 as well as 7
 this time it tells me device locked on phone as well as error on computer "not supported in locked device"
 what exactly is locked device or carrier?
 @CSmartly [this time it tells me device locked on phone as well as error on computer "not s …], fastboot oem unlock
 @Flohack [fastboot oem unlock], please be specific what to take
 @CSmartly [please be specific what to take], You need to unlock your bootloader probably. Bring the device into fastboot mode by pressing Vol-Down and PWr until you see the small menu
 Then, connect it to a PC and open a shell and type this command fstboot oem unlock
 yes did that it says locked
 You can google thw whole process
 oh I see..
 but you say its just this one short command
 @dohbee [https://github.com/ubports/utqemu], getting error at cmd: utqemu start … qemu-system-x86_64: -device virtio-vga,virgl=on: Property '.virgl' not found
 @CSmartly [but you say its just this one short command], Its one short command, yes but please google "unlock Nexus 5" and follow the instructions. Its better you can read it in the web I think ;)
 sorry for trivial questions but what is locked - lock by carrier right?
 @suranju410 [getting error at cmd: utqemu start … qemu-system-x86_64: -device virtio-vga,virgl …], either QEMU is too old or compiled without virgl support
 other I did always also said locked when restarted into bootloader but then ubports program in computer fixed it automatically
[07:12] <ubptgbot> <santi LAURIN> (Photo, 860x770) https://irc.ubports.com/q2t4Y0Fm.png
 @Flohack [fastboot oem unlock], wow it literally took just that, thank you now I know
 @CSmartly [other I did always also said locked when restarted into bootloader but then ubpo …], No, the UBports Installer cnanot unlock your phone
 That would be potentially dangerous: Unlocking wipes all (Android) data from your phone
 We wont take that responsibility on us. Unlocking needs to be a human decision, with knowning all the consequences
 @Flohack [No, the UBports Installer cnanot unlock your phone], really, I did it alrady on 3 nexus 7 and 2 Nexus 5 fore this one
 and in each case after conecting to ubports installer
 and getting to bootloader
 They must have been already unlocked then
 it was saying locked and asked me if unlock
 i confirmed
 hmmm I dont believe that but Ok maybe :)
 if were it didnt say so
 @neothethird can comment on this
 really I am happy to be wrong but its what I did every time
 but it did ask me on the phone
 I had to select yes unlock
 this is first time other way thus I asked and happy it was simple
 maybe it is someting specific to Nexuses and not same on all devices or so?
 btw, if team ever comes here and takes suggestions - I like how UI evolved after some of the latest updates but I would like option just see wallpapers as well
 when there is multiple apps open if click empty space it should let me just  select none - to have seeminly clean slate
 ^^ There is a bitcoin spammer a few post up that asks for being kicked out.
 done
 Great. Thanks.
 @Flohack [No, the UBports Installer cnanot unlock your phone], yes it can
 @CSmartly [maybe it is someting specific to Nexuses and not same on all devices or so?], if the installer gets an error that can be attributed to the phone being oem-locked, it asks the user if it's okay to run `fastboot oem unlock`. you're not crazy :)
 @CSmartly [when there is multiple apps open if click empty space it should let me just  sel …], i for one agree, but i had a small war with @dohbee over this and lost 🙃
 @CSmartly [this time it tells me device locked on phone as well as error on computer "not s …], you're coming from android? in that case, you might have to boot up the android system again and allow oem unlocking in the settings. some devices are picky that way, before you do that, it won't allow fastboot to lift the oem lock.
 the first installer screen has some information on that, so if you start the installer w/o a device connected, you should see a button that'll take you to a gif and instructions in detail
 I feel like taking a picture of my grouper on Ubuntu preview vs now latest ubports on bacon
 @neothethird [the first installer screen has some information on that, so if you start the ins …], installing done, all works! all I needed to use the command line mentioned above by Florian
 @neothethird [i for one agree, but i had a small war with @dohbee over this and lost 🙃], it was just one battle .. we win the war :) eventually
 honestly i am now again frustrated by this
 having phone in hand
 opened 3 apps and cant basically go "home"
 i have to be on one of them even I put phone on table and disengage
 @CSmartly [installing done, all works! all I needed to use the command line mentioned above …], huh, but that's what the installer does, too. weird.
 guys really please keep discussing it, good things is that both could have it
 there could be setting option
 We don't want to become KDE with too many options like that, I'm afraid
 to enable wallpepar-home as an option to select in open apps menu
 [Edit] We don't want to become Plasma with too many options like that, I'm afraid
 I understand just voicing my view i think as now its flawed design
 imagine I am eating with friends checkign 3 apps.. back and forth
 then put phone on table to eat
 i was forced to leave on one app
 put your phone in the pocket when you're out with your friends :P
 jk
 haaha
 well even when nobody around
 i dont see benefit of tihs except for battery
 beause it pushes me to close all apps
 You could use a long left edge swipe to open the drawer over everything if that's a concern
 yes I am aware
 but then I am in apps hahaa
 I wish I could just have clear slate
 you know different people like different things and I get it no tto be KDE
 but this may be topic really where opinion will be 50 50
 among people
 and I dare to say the one I suggest is the default intuinive one that everyone expects it would work
 now I would even let person to chose option to have only wallpaper not even side menu (that can be pulled)
 in idela world
 so clean
 just your wallpaper
 that would go we with simplicity philosphy and ease of use
 and kept Ubuntu Touch original
 yes Sailfish has also just wallpeper and menu can be pulled from button but hat menu hides automatically very qucik
 in Ubuntu Touch case could stay unless pulled back
 and also
 (Sticker, 496x512) https://irc.ubports.com/0Svt39Nx.webp
 in Sailfish OS  slate is never really clean because anyting you open is right there
 Ubuntu Touch wild let me to have just wallpaper yet opened many apps quick to access
 and no toggle needed for left side menu if hide or pull - can be done with pull - back and forth
 if hiding it becomes hard to work with and catch to do what u intend to do
 (again sialfish experience it hides too quick)
 Since you are writing a lot, your opinion might be voiced best here: https://forums.ubports.com/topic/2579/i-wanna-go-home
 ok thank you
 @amyosx [I feel like taking a picture of my grouper on Ubuntu preview vs now latest ubpor …], OK got 13.04 PC to work
 I'll update to 14
 And see if I can get mainline to work too
 one more note- that seems inconstency a bit .. when phone is locked I can pull the menu from right side and hide (with no timer)
 once I am in all is same but menu must be there
 wish I can do the same swipe it out from left or back to right anytime I wish
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 Is there a way to compile ubports recovery without the rest of Ubuntu touch
 Like the minimal twrp manifest
 Probably not, there's a lot of AOSP components required for building a functional recovery.
 Also it would mean maintaining two manifests and their respective combination of software repos.
 basing on TWRP manifest may work, but someone needs to do it and fix possible problems
 @amyosx [Is there a way to compile ubports recovery without the rest of Ubuntu touch], Whats the usecase?
 @Flohack [Whats the usecase?], I just wanna try ubports recovery on krillin
 I'm gonna go insane if I don't try
 I think I have a build
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/oLcBQ8Ak.png
 TWRP
 Replaced with ubports recovery
 https://t.me/joinchat/ObVnsRsHxby4ybAG29TCQQ
 For all my screaming and buggy builds
 Well where is Yumi 😆
 @Flohack [Well where is Yumi 😆], S0n
 It was just a test to see if the tree worked
 :P
 I'm now cloning cm so I can build ubports recovery
 Didn't work with minimal manifest
 Hmm maybe better you move this discussion to porting channel? 90% of people here have no idea what you are talking about ;)
 @Flohack [Hmm maybe better you move this discussion to porting channel? 90% of people here …], Ahh ok
 I made a group as well but if u think its good there
 Well it can be group also, but I am already in 50 groups, I am very reluctant to join new ones ^^
 @Flohack [Well it can be group also, but I am already in 50 groups, I am very reluctant to …], Also why is 4 of your profile pictures been the same just different crop?
 @Flohack [Well it can be group also, but I am already in 50 groups, I am very reluctant to …], Makes sense
 You can advertise your stuff here, but I would keep detail discussions out
 @Flohack [You can advertise your stuff here, but I would keep detail discussions out], OK
 @amyosx [Also why is 4 of your profile pictures been the same just different crop?], wut?
 I dont remember xD
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 (Photo, 610x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/gIYE4CaO.png
 Lol
 guys..
 Thanks yes. Please keep tzhis out
 @Flohack [Thanks yes. Please keep tzhis out], Sorry
 Its totally offtopic, here are over 3000 people!
[12:24] <ubptgbot> <Anaan Ahamad taha> too long ?
 Halium has a manifest for krillin
 Hmmm
 @amyosx [Halium has a manifest for krillin], Probably a fake
 @Flohack [Probably a fake], Needs Mount point fixing
 @Flohack [Probably a fake], And it is in main halium
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 @Flohack [Probably a fake], I built
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 hmmm, seems it still is not possible to click on a locally downloaded html file in the File Manager and have the option to open it in Morph, and it also seems entering a local url in Morph to file:///home/phablet/Documents/localhtmlfile.html is not working either (I get a Network error, permission denied message).  Is there anything I
[22:59] <ubptgbot> am missing in my attempts on this, or is it confirmed these are absent features in UT currently?
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[16:55] <excessluggage> Is this a spoof?
[16:56] <JoseeAntonioR> excessluggage: not at all
[16:56] <JoseeAntonioR> actually works
[16:56] <excessluggage> Does this mean I need to learn French :D
[17:00] <JoseeAntonioR> excessluggage: they are not talking in French, they are talking in English
[17:00] <excessluggage> lol, my bad
[18:27] <ubuntumanush> ubuntumanush


[05:27] <TheSolenya> how unstable are the snapshots?
[09:37] <Katnip> https://www.ncsc.gov.uk/guidance/eud-security-guidance-ubuntu-1804-lts
[10:16] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
 Velizar please file a bug report against ubiquity "ubuntu-bug ubiquity" in the commandline while in the installer
 Dont put the quotes of course
 Then run kde partionmanager before starting the installer so you don't have to use that buggy manual partitioner
 Ok
[17:11] <chaotix> hey all.   using plasma 5 i would like to be able to format a clock on my panel to just have the day and the time, ie Thursday 1:10 pm, and i am having a really hard time finding a way to do this.  does anyone know of a plasmoid widget that will allow this that i can obtain, or can someon walk me through the steps of doing this?  it would be really helpfull...  i love being able to make mu fesktop how i want it to be, which is why kde
[17:11] <chaotix> has become my go to DE as of late...  just gitting a lottle snag on the clock thingy
[17:12] <acheronuk> chaotix: as I said in neon, the event views plasmoid
[17:13] <acheronuk> umm. calendar
[17:13] <acheronuk> https://store.kde.org/p/998901/
[17:13] <chaotix> event views?
[17:13] <chaotix> sorry acheronuk i got disconnected and must not hacve seen your message
[17:14] <chaotix> thanks
[17:14] <acheronuk> format dddd h:mm AP
[17:14] <chaotix> i will check t out right now
[17:15] <acheronuk> gives me this https://i.imgur.com/zIK7Egj.png
[17:15] <acheronuk> it's a lot more that a clock, but the clock part if very customisable
[17:16] <chaotix> event calendar is perfect, thank you acheronuk
[17:17] <acheronuk> yw
[17:18] <chaotix> have a good day
 Just now installed 18.04.1 … When i browsing YouTube i'm taking freezes in video, 15-30 fps in 720p or 1080p, but in Windows it worked very well. I need to install graphics card drivers?
 what card?
 GTX 650
[20:16] <diogenes_> sudo lspci -nnk |grep VGA -A3
[20:16] <diogenes_> !pastebin
 VGA?
[20:18] <diogenes_> yes
 https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8hMcpD8MB6/
[20:20] <diogenes_> and now pastebin: glxinfo | grep "OpenGL renderer"
 OpenGL renderer string: NVE7
[20:23] <diogenes_> ok try to add this: nouveau.config=NvClkMode=10 to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=" in /etc/default/grub
[20:23] <diogenes_> sudo update-grub afterwards and reboot
[20:24] <diogenes_> ask me how if you can't figure that out
 Not needed, thanks. It's small part of my daily job, use linux bash (programmer). Ok, i'll do this now, what you're wrote
 Hmmm, so if in CMDLINME_LINUX_DEFAULT i seeing ="quiet splash", i need to remove them? Or maybe separate two this things by ;
[20:28] <diogenes_>  CMDLINME_LINUX_DEFAULT i seeing ="nouveau.config=NvClkMode=10 quiet splash"
[20:28] <diogenes_> that is how the end result should look like ^^^
[20:29] <diogenes_> i mean: CMDLINME_LINUX_DEFAULT="nouveau.config=NvClkMode=10 quiet splash"
 It's done
 Reboot system?
[20:30] <diogenes_> did you tn upda-grub?
[20:30] <diogenes_> run*
 +++
[20:30] <diogenes_> ok reboot
 Rebooted
[20:32] <diogenes_> ok try it
 15fps, no results
[20:35] <diogenes_> then your best bet is to use proprietary nvidia driver
 Oh, yes
 In system notifications in some time
 For something things you're need to install propietary drivers
[20:36] <diogenes_> don't forget to remove the line we added to grub and update-grub
 Ok, thank you
[20:37] <diogenes_> you're welcome
 Drivers isn't helped :D
 When I've installed binary drivers after reboot I've taken "unable to find kdeinit"
 And it's all)
[21:25] <diogenes_> so this issue occurred after you upgraded from 18.04 to 18.04.1?
 It's a clean installation
 And before I've installed 17.10 - the same lugs
[21:32] <diogenes_> do you happen to use wayland?
 Not yet
[21:35] <diogenes_> and what browser do you use?
[21:35] <diogenes_> also does the lag happen in other applications too?
 Firefox 61
 YouTube html5 player
[21:37] <diogenes_> and what if you try falkon just to test it there
 720p+ is very luggy, sounds with lazy image and more
 Maybe I should to try chrome?
 I'll try this at morning
 @diogenes_, Only in html5 video playing
[21:40] <diogenes_> chrome is a heavy bloatware but yes you can try it
 Maybe I've got bad system specifications?
[21:41] <diogenes_> and we can't tell for sure what' really wrong until you try with a different browser
 GTX 650 inno3d 2gb vram … 8gb ram ddr2 … Athlon x64 X2 4600+ 2.4ghz
[21:56] <diogenes_> Velizar Peshev, so how you tried to lower down the resolution?


[00:07] <BUGabundo>  my friends, hope to see you back in a week
[00:07] <BUGabundo> gonna try to enjoy a full week without you all :D
[00:07]  * Daekdroom doubts it
[00:08] <BUGabundo> :(
[00:08] <Volkodav> !daily
[00:12] <Volkodav> is there an option in the installer for btrfs ?
[00:13] <mbt> Volkodav, I didn't see one; there probably isn't yet, I don't think btrfs has been declared stable just yet
[00:14] <Volkodav> hmm - I though someone already has it installed - I was wondering if it is an option yet ?
[00:15] <mbt> You can *use* btrfs, but you'll have to set it up after installation (unless that has changed since the Alpha 1 media was mastered).
[00:15] <Volkodav> you mean a conversion ?
[00:15] <mxe5> Is there an app for trying to recover files from a USB thumb flash drive?
[00:15] <mbt> mxe5, depending on what the problem is, I'd try using foremost
[00:16] <Volkodav> there is also a grub2 compatibility issue as well
[00:16] <mbt> Volkodav, yes, you can convert ext3 or you can take a tar backup and restore.  I wouldn't use it for /boot.
[00:16] <Volkodav> you mean /root
[00:16] <mbt> Volkodav, you could just use ext2 for /boot (mounted sync) and use btrfs for / and the rest of the other filesystems
[00:16] <Volkodav> and have separate /boot
[00:16] <mbt> Volkodav, No, I meant /boot.  the root fs can be btrfs, but /boot has to be accessible by the bootloader.
[00:17] <Volkodav> right - so grub2 can not boot btrfs yet I guess
[00:17] <Volkodav> I'll spin live CD see what's up ....
[00:17] <mbt> I also wouldn't use btrfs to house data that you rely on not disappearing.  I very nearly lost 300GB of data to it not that long ago just by using a multi-device setup with subvolumes.
[00:18] <mbt> Volkodav, I don't recall hearing about GRUB2 learning about btrfs yet, no.  But that's fine; I usually use ext2 for /boot anyway
[00:18] <Volkodav> of course not - I have my storage on differenrt drives
[00:18] <arand> Volkodav: INPROGRESS: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-m-btrfs-support
[00:18] <mxe5> mbt: Well it's a tough go right now, because it's not showing up on the desktop also went to Places/Computer and not showing in there as well.
[00:18] <arand> mxe5: photorec
[00:19] <mxe5> mbt: It's Toshiba 4GB thumb drive.
[00:19] <Volkodav> I want to see how snapshots and all other bells are working so far - at least on a testing machine
[00:20] <mbt> Volkodav, I'd just install it with a 10 GB /, then, and create a btrfs filesystem on its own partition after you have the system installed
[00:20] <arand> mxe5: part of "testdisk" (which also does partition table recovery
[00:20] <mbt> Say for /home or something.
[00:20] <mxe5> arand: Is that similar to one of the windows file recovery apps?
[00:20] <arand> mxe5: No
[00:20] <arand> Likely not, at least. Since it's ncurses
[00:20] <Volkodav> mbt: that's an option
[00:21] <mxe5> arand: So is photorec an app?
[00:21] <Volkodav> I may as well through all the system on it
[00:21] <mbt> mxe5, what is the damage?  Did the filesystem get overwritten or corrupted, or it is an unusual filesystem?  What's the output of "file -sL /dev/sdX" for the device?
[00:21] <arand> Fedora dabbles in btrfs already if that is an option..
[00:21] <Volkodav> same as suse I heard
[00:21] <arand> mxe5: A command-line (ncurses menu-based) application, yes
[00:22] <mbt> Also seems that the btrfs wiki is not really giving an up-to-date picture of the status of the fs or tools
[00:22] <mxe5> mbt: I get nothing when I plug it into any open USB on my computer - I get no errors at all - linux does not even come up that a USB thumb drive has been plugged in.
[00:23] <mbt> mxe5, dmesg doesn't show a new device?
[00:23] <mxe5> mbt: No\
[00:23] <mbt> mxe5, If that's the case, no recovery utility is going to do anything for it.  It will likely need physical repair.
[00:24] <bjsnider> mbt, how do you know the wiki is not up to date?
[00:24] <mbt> bjsnider, most current info is for 2.6.32.
[00:25] <mbt> And at that time, they weren't recommending it for general usage, so unless there's newer information somewhere that I don't know about... which is entirely possible.
[00:25] <mxe5> mbt: I ran dmesg at terminal and got several lines of return - but not sure what to look for or at.
[00:26] <mbt> mxe5, when you plug in a new usb mass storage device, you will see a few lines of output at the end that show that it found it, what device node (sdb, sdc, etc.) it got, its size in sectors, gigabytes and gibibytes, and so forth.
[00:27] <mbt> mxe5, kinda like this, but with information for your specific device:  dhttp://pastebin.com/mu5pErWj
[00:27] <mbt> mxe5, err, http://pastebin.com/mu5pErWj
[00:35] <mxe5> mbt: Sorry I was reading through the dmesg output trying to find something - I'll have to come back to this later - Have to go do something for the better-half - Honey-doo stuff ya know ...
[00:35] <mxe5> mbt: Thanks
[09:08] <Daijoubu> I can't make a live USB for Kubuntu 10.10 neither with Startup Disk Creator which boots to Ubuntu with the Kubuntu image, nor with unetbootin?
[09:08] <Daijoubu> Any help?
[09:17] <Jordan_U> Daijoubu: What happens when you try?
[09:18] <Daijoubu> With Startup Disk Creator it boots to a menu with 2 choices
[09:18] <Daijoubu> to install ubuntu or to try ubuntu, when i select try ubuntu it boots to Ubuntu with Gnome
[09:19] <Daijoubu> the unetbootin try just goes to boot from the USB, no menu is shown and it reboots, and then reboots again, and again
[09:19] <Jordan_U> Daijoubu: I don'
[09:19] <Jordan_U> Daijoubu: ... I don't see what's wrong with it booting with Gnome.
[09:20] <Daijoubu> well i'm using the "Kubuntu" image
[09:20] <Daijoubu> not the "Ubuntu" image
[09:20] <Daijoubu> shoudln't it boot to KDE?!
[09:35] <Daijoubu> Jordan_U will it install with KDE if i chose to install it and not try it from the USB ?
[09:55] <Daijoubu> well the Kubuntu daily build fixed the problem :)
[09:55] <Daijoubu> i have 31 blocked Updates, is this a bug?
[09:56] <kklimonda> no
[09:57] <kklimonda> it's normal during development
[09:57] <Daijoubu> kklimonda, should i do anything about it or just leave it be?
[09:58] <Daijoubu> gosh kde 4.5 is great :) too bad that gnome will become that terrible shell thing hehe
[09:59] <kklimonda> Daijoubu: bah, there is no single answer as many things may result in packages being blocked. If you have no idea how to investigate it I'd leave it for now.
[12:06] <IdleOne> Xorg seems to have been fixed. FOR ME!
[12:07] <om26er> any op online?
[12:07] <IdleOne> om26er: I am not op in here bu maybe I can help
[12:08] <om26er> IdleOne, I want someone kicked in #ubuntu ;)
[12:08] <om26er> or banned
[12:08] <IdleOne> om26er: #ubuntu-ops please
[12:08] <om26er> na I'll find someone here
[12:09] <IdleOne> om26er: #ubuntu-ops is the proper place to discuss this
[12:09] <IdleOne> I am op in #ubuntu so I should be able to help
[12:09] <IdleOne> or you can msg me
[12:22] <DrHalan> waitng for the xorg fix
[12:27] <IdleOne> DrHalan: I did an upgrade this morning 30+ xorg packages installed without problems. FOR ME
[12:27] <IdleOne> ymmv
[12:29] <DrHalan> not for me it even wants to remove xserver-xorg-video-all
[12:30] <yofel> ls
[12:30] <yofel> . . .
[12:30] <IdleOne> DrHalan: in that case, hold off
[12:31] <yofel> odd, I have all X updates installed since quite a while, nvidia and virtualbox were holding them back for a while
[12:35] <DrHalan> yeha i have nvidia here..
[12:35] <DrHalan> on virtualbox it worked some days ago
[12:35] <DrHalan> nvidia-current isN't updated anyways afaik
[12:37] <yofel> not yet, x-updates has 256.29 which works fine here
[12:37] <DrHalan> whats x-updates?
[12:38] <Ian_corne> ppa
[12:38] <DrHalan> nice.. so i just wait until its merged to maveric
[12:38] <yofel> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates/
[12:39] <Ian_corne> yofel: if i full-upgrade it doesn't remove nvidea-current anymore
[12:39] <yofel> oh? then someone rebuilt the package maybe
[12:39] <Ian_corne> upgrades dkms and all the xserver packages and nvidia-current too
[12:39] <Ian_corne> upgrading now
[12:39] <Ian_corne> will let you know if it works :)
[12:40] <DrHalan> ill just wait..
[12:43] <Ian_corne> Get:72 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/main xserver-xorg 1:7.5+6ubuntu1 [20.3kB]
[12:43] <Ian_corne> hmm
[12:43] <jpds> Ian_corne: Don't you have your own mirror?
[12:43] <Ian_corne> yes
[12:44] <Ian_corne> I changed it to this when I needed something that wasn't pushed yet
[12:44] <Ian_corne> will change back
[12:44] <Ian_corne> :)
[12:44] <yofel> I have that too, and xserver-xorg-core 2:<IP_ADDRESS>1-1ubuntu1
[13:02] <Ian_corne> Ha
[13:02] <Ian_corne> all my applets don't like 1.8
[13:02] <Ian_corne> except musicplayer and timer
[13:03] <Ian_corne> ok, they just crashed it seems
[13:03] <Ian_corne> if i kill the panels and they reload, they're back
[13:17] <nils1> hej folks, does anyone know by chance, what to do, to get a new ubuntu mailing list created? i have started a ticket on rt.ubuntu.com month ago and nothing happened up to now..
[14:09] <yofel> and there goes X - again...
[14:09] <yofel> ^G###!!! ABORT: X_CloseDevice: XI_BadDevice (invalid Device parameter); 8 requests ago: file nsX11ErrorHandler.cpp, line 182
[14:13] <Daijoubu> Help! :) Installed Kubuntu from daily build, updated, installed Nvidia current drivers, after reboot it shows the Kubuntu loading screen and it stays there, the keyboard is working and i can restart with ctrl-alt-del
[14:13] <yofel> Daijoubu: how did you install them?
[14:13] <Daijoubu> with hardware drivers
[14:14] <yofel> hm...
[14:15] <yofel> I had something like that in lucid when mountall hung up on an NFS mount, but that's fixed by now
[14:15] <yofel> can you get to a terminal somehow?
[14:15] <Daijoubu> yofel with ctrl-alt-F1 F2 and so on ?
[14:15] <yofel> yes
[14:15] <Daijoubu> that's not working :/
[14:16] <Daijoubu> the screen just flashes with ctrl-alt-F1 and F2 for F3-4-5-6 nothing happens
[14:16] <Daijoubu> and it returns to the Kubuntu loading image
[14:17] <yofel> hm... maybe try sysrq+k to kill plymouth, or maybe sysrq+e (SIGTERM) or sysrq+i (SIGKILL) and see if you get something
[14:17] <Daijoubu> ok one sec
[14:20] <Daijoubu> nope nothing
[14:20] <Daijoubu> tranegly enough i typed "o-o" and enter and it shat down lol
[14:20] <Daijoubu> *strange
[14:21] <Daijoubu> phh terriblwe stuff :/
[14:21] <yofel> hm, does something happen if you press S or M when it hangs?
[14:21] <Daijoubu> one sec..
[14:21] <yofel> and is plymouth frozen or is the animation still running?
[14:22] <Daijoubu> nope
[14:22] <Daijoubu> it's frozen
[14:22] <Daijoubu> but when i do ctrl+alt+del thje animation unfreezes
[14:23] <yofel> and what happens with sysrq+k?
[14:23] <Daijoubu> when it's frozen all dots are gray, after ctrl alt del, all dots go white and one becomes gray
[14:23] <Daijoubu> yofel just to make sure the sysrq thing is the "windows" key on the kieyboard right?
[14:23] <yofel> er... no
[14:24] <yofel> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
[14:24] <yofel> sysrq+k is 'alt+print+k' here
[14:24] <Daijoubu> yofel ok then i mislead you that nothing happens with it one sec
[14:24] <yofel> or prtscr or whatever druck is on an english keyboard
[14:27] <Daijoubu> yofel sysrq+k nothing sysrq+e nothing alt-sysrq+k ntohing alt-sysrq+e nothing alt-sysrq+o = shutdown
[14:28] <yofel> yeah, o is shutdown
[14:29] <Daijoubu> so i'm doomed?
[14:29] <yofel> hm, then I'm slowly running out of ideas, maybe add 'init=/bin/bash' to the grub kernel line and see if you get a terminal
[14:30] <Daijoubu> ok i guess this is the guru section of possible things to do haha
[14:30] <yofel> that will skip upstart and should give you a terminal without any running services
[14:30] <Daijoubu> how do i add that line?!
[14:30] <yofel> Daijoubu: in grub, press 'e' (I think) to edit the boot options, and append 'init=/bin/bash' on the kernel line
[14:30] <yofel> oh wait
[14:31] <yofel> maybe first try to remove quiet splash there
[14:31] <yofel> that should at least remove the boot animation
[14:31] <Daijoubu> umm how?
[14:31] <Daijoubu> is there a key like in windows where if i hold it it will propose to start ubuntu in vesa or so on?
[14:32] <yofel> like I said, go to the grub menu, select the kernel that you want to boot, press e and edit the line that starts with 'kernel'
[14:32] <Daijoubu> i don't know how to go to the grub menu :( i'm noob
[14:32] <yofel> after that use ctrl+x to boot I think, it should say so in the editor
[14:33] <yofel> er... hold left shift pressed on boot I think
[14:33] <yofel> !grub2
[14:33] <Daijoubu> ok one sec
[14:33] <yofel> actually see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[14:34] <yofel> especially https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Command%20Line%20and%20Rescue%20Mode
[14:35] <Daijoubu> well holding shift didnt bring me to a menu
[14:36] <Daijoubu> it shows some text of things loaded and it end at Pulse Audio and the * in fron ot it is orange
[14:36] <yofel> o.O
[14:36] <Daijoubu> and i can't type anything
[14:37] <Daijoubu> *front of it is orange
[14:38] <Daijoubu> app armor profiles, kernels common printing system are shown ans [ok]
[14:39] <Daijoubu> then comes pulse audio and it has orange star and theres no [ok] next to it
[14:39] <Daijoubu> is pulse audio yet again making my day miserable? :D
[14:39] <yofel> well, that seems to come from the sysvinit services, so the boot hangs somewhere at the end
[14:39] <yofel> heh
[14:39] <bardo_> hello to all, does anyone lnows how if there is a update to resolve the bug in xubuntu10.04 related to intel 855 graphic cards
[14:40] <Daijoubu> so in other words i have to reinstall?
[14:40] <yofel> bardo_: *which* bug?
[14:40] <yofel> bardo_: and do you mean recent update or compared to lucid?
[14:41] <bardo_> xubuntu frezes in startup and dosent boot without the option i915.modeset=1. recent update
[14:41] <bardo_> sorry xubuntu 10.0
[14:41] <bardo_> 10.04
[14:41] <yofel> Daijoubu: not sure, maybe use a live disk, chroot and try to disable things until it boots (that's what I would try)
[14:41] <yofel> but reinstalling might be faster
[14:42] <yofel> bardo_: this channel is for maverick meerkat 10.10 support, for lucid please ask in #ubuntu
[14:42] <bardo_> had to chroot and change grub so to put the option i915.modeset=1. but if i try to play a movie the laptop crashes
[14:42] <Daijoubu> yofel, the thing is that my live usb kubuntu is damaged as well, no idea how that happened, it crashes on the keyboard setup if i try to install it, and if i select to Try it, it brings me to a logins creen, i have no idea what the default login user and pass is
[14:43] <yofel> default login user and pass should be ubuntu/ubuntu iirc
[14:43] <Daijoubu> thanks yofel
[14:44] <bardo_> ok
[14:44] <yofel> I could be wrong, it's been a while since I had to use them
[14:44] <yofel> bardo_: if you have a question about a specific bug number askin in #ubuntu-bugs is an option too
[14:45] <bardo_> thanks, will try.
[14:53] <Daijoubu> it's hopeles :/ now it crashes on the live USB loading screen as well, neather Try or Install works, i tried the check for errors option and it didn't find any errors, i'm curious how these errors evolve though
[14:54] <Daijoubu> oh well, back to LTS version then :)
[14:54] <Daijoubu> yofel will the LTS version update it's kernel when Maverik comes out?
[14:56] <yofel> no idea, there was some talk about backporting kernels, but haven't heard much of that since quite a while ago
[14:57] <Daijoubu> yofel can i update from LTS to Maverik?
[14:57] <yofel> sure
[14:57] <Daijoubu> ok then thanks for helping :)
[14:57] <yofel> you might have to tell update-manager to look for non-lts upgrades though
[14:57] <yofel> should be somewhere in software properties
[14:58] <Daijoubu> i was wondering why it didn't find anything with -d thanks
[14:59] <Ian_corne> Hmm I get "bzz bzzz bzzz" in my audio :p
[14:59] <Ian_corne> and it's no vuvuzela
[16:45] <shadeslayer> hi any idea how i can install the examples for qtcreator?
[16:49] <James147> shadeslayer: Try installing qt4-demos
[16:49] <shadeslayer> James147: tried that
[16:49] <shadeslayer> still doesnt pick it up... maybe i need to fix that package as well in universe :P
[16:50] <shadeslayer> James147: btw can you get qtcreator to work on maverick?
[16:51] <James147> shadeslayer: havent tryed maverick yet, will probally install it on my laptop later today... will try it then
[16:52] <shadeslayer> James147: ah ok,because beta 1 doesnt work on maverick,im going to file a request to upload RC from my ppa today :)
[18:29] <DanaG> "Ubuntu is ready to play music from the web, from CDs and DVDs."
[18:29] <DanaG> Wait, if it's from the web, how are you playing it from CDs?
[18:29] <DanaG> It needs another "and" there.
[18:30] <DanaG> quite literally, it currently says: playing music from the web from CDs.
[18:32] <arand> two and:s also turns out wrong..
[18:32] <DanaG> No.
[18:32] <Pici> Where?
[18:32] <DanaG> "Ubuntu is ready to play music from the web, and from CDs and DVDs."
[18:33] <gnomefreak> i think he meant where are you seeing this
[18:33] <DanaG> Ah.
[18:33] <DanaG> This is in the installer (though in Lucid).
[18:33] <DanaG> The slideshow.
[18:33]  * gnomefreak not here
[18:33] <gnomefreak> i would say file a bug maybe one of the installer devs will fix it
[18:51] <devilsadvocate> DanaG, no, it doesnt need another and. CDs and DVDs are different things
[19:19] <DanaG> devilsadvocate: try reading that sentence again.
[19:20] <DanaG> "Ubuntu is ready to play <items> from the web, from CDs and DVDs.
[19:20] <DanaG> Broken parallelism.
[19:21] <devilsadvocate> i'd suggest an extra 'from' before DVDs rather than another and
[19:21] <DanaG> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallelism_%28grammar%29
[19:24] <DanaG> ah
[19:24] <DanaG> yeah, and from dvds
[19:24] <DanaG> tha tworks.
[19:40] <om26er> will maverick ship with gtk3?
[19:43] <gnomefreak> om26er: not sure but there should be a blueprint if it is planned
[19:43] <vish> om26er: no
[19:44]  * om26er thought a release after LTS was to shake things up ;)
[19:45] <gnomefreak> om26er: it is but we still have to be stable. i would have thought gtk3 would go hand in hand with gnome3
[19:46] <vish> gtk3 and gnome3 only planned for N
[19:46] <vish> well , gtk3 atleast , gnome3  ??  ;p
[19:47] <gnomefreak> gnome3 is planned IIRC for 10.10
[19:47] <om26er> for gnome 2.31.4 they will ship with gtk3
[19:47] <gnomefreak> that is gnome3
[19:47] <om26er> or 2.90xx
[19:47] <gnomefreak> i dont recall the linkws i saw it on but it was gnome official links and its due in sept.
[19:48] <gnomefreak> 2.31
[19:48] <om26er> gtk series is 2.90
[19:52] <gnomefreak> http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointThirtyone/
[19:52] <gnomefreak> and no gtk3 will not make it in Maverick
[19:53] <gnomefreak> 2.31.91 == 3.0
[19:53] <gnomefreak> sorry .92
[19:55] <gnomefreak> ok back to working on this .xpi
[20:10] <h00k> http://identi.ca/notice/36376507 orly?
[20:12] <bjsnider> vish, who says?
[20:12] <dORSY> hi i have a problem with wmv: http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/960/kpernykpakvntbvmnyeknek.png
[20:13] <dORSY> any hints where to get the codec?
[20:15] <virtuald> dorsy: medibuntu.org
[20:15] <dORSY> are there maverick repos?
[20:15] <virtuald> i don't know
[20:16] <dORSY> okay i ask different
[20:16] <dORSY> what codec this video uses?  mmsh://streamer2.carnation.hu/mtvod2/hirado/2010/06/15/hirado19_100615.wmv
[20:17] <vish> bjsnider: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2010-June/msg00183.html
[20:18] <gnomefreak> dORSY: yes there are
[20:19] <dORSY> gnomefreak, apt line?
[20:19] <gnomefreak> dORSY: its on thier site
[20:19] <dORSY> http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/maverick.list is 404
[20:20] <gnomefreak> dORSY: one sec
[20:21] <gnomefreak> dORSY: http://paste.ubuntu.com/450236/  these work for me here
[20:21] <gnomefreak> going backt o this damn thing
[20:22] <dORSY> thx
[20:23] <dORSY> we will see...
[20:25] <dORSY> i cant find their pgp key -.-
[20:25] <dORSY> gpg*
[20:27] <bjsnider> vish, that message is inconclusive
[20:29] <gnomefreak> dORSY: take the last 8 digits and do it that way or go to ssoftware sources in the gnome menu
[20:29] <gnomefreak> dORSY: give me the last 8 and i will give you the command
[20:30] <dORSY> gnomefreak, 8 digits of what?
[20:30] <gnomefreak> dORSY: in the gpg error you have. there are letters and numbers of the gpg i need last 8
[20:31] <dORSY> anyway i got one from google
[20:31] <dORSY> thanks
[20:31] <gnomefreak> they also have a way to add repos and keys in one command on thier website
[20:31] <dORSY> does not work
[20:31]  * gnomefreak wrote a script for all my gpg keys
[20:31] <dORSY> i said it generates 404
[20:32] <dORSY> http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/maverick.list
[20:32] <gnomefreak> dORSY: one minute
[20:33] <gnomefreak> dORSY: you can also ask in #medibuntu
[20:33] <gnomefreak> that channel is handy
[20:33] <dORSY> thanks
[20:36] <gnomefreak> dORSY: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#Adding%20the%20Repository
[20:36]  * gnomefreak not sure where you were going and why
[20:36] <dORSY> lsb_release -cs
[20:36] <dORSY> maverick
[20:37] <dORSY> there is no maverick list on the site
[20:37] <gnomefreak> dORSY: add the repos i  gave you or use the command found on that page
[20:37] <dORSY> try yourself
[20:37] <gnomefreak> gnomefreak@development:~$ lsb_release -cs
[20:37] <gnomefreak> maverick
[20:38] <dORSY> http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/maverick.list
[20:38] <gnomefreak> lsb_release has nothing to do with medibuntu. its only sys info
[20:38] <dORSY> gnomefreak,
[20:38] <gnomefreak> dORSY: not sure where you got that from
[20:38] <dORSY>  http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/$(lsb_release -cs).list
[20:39] <gnomefreak> why are you in sources.list.d
[20:39] <dORSY> part of
[20:39] <dORSY> sudo wget --output-document=/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/$(lsb_release -cs).list && sudo apt-get --quiet update && sudo apt-get --yes --quiet --allow-unauthenticated install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get --quiet update
[20:39] <dORSY> part of  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#Adding%20the%20Repository
[20:39] <dORSY> got it?
[20:40] <gnomefreak> dORSY: did you try replacing $(lsb_release -cs) with maverick
[20:40] <dORSY> no
[20:40] <gnomefreak> dORSY: that is what it is telling you
[20:40] <dORSY> it replaces itself
[20:40] <dORSY> and if i do
[20:40] <dORSY> http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/maverick.list
[20:40] <dORSY> still gives 404
[20:41] <gnomefreak> dORSY: add the repos i gave you or ask in #medibuntu why it is 404
[20:41] <dORSY> i did
[20:44]  * gnomefreak out
[20:59] <vish> bjsnider: rest assured , gtk3 aint landing for Maverick ;)
[20:59] <bjsnider> well that's certainly your view
[20:59] <vish> bjsnider: no, not mine'
[21:00] <vish>  <seb128>  we will take empathy later on if they clarify they will not require gtk3
[21:00] <vish> bjsnider: ^
[21:00] <bjsnider> what does medibuntu provide at this point i wonder
[21:01] <dORSY> nothing, im still stuck with this video :D
[21:01] <dORSY> however i installed the lucid w64codec
[21:02] <bjsnider> that package isn't necessary
[21:02] <bjsnider> mplayer gets its codecs from ffmpeg now
[21:02] <dORSY> i dont know what package would be that
[21:03] <dORSY> exaclty what codec decodes wmv
[21:03] <bjsnider> mplayer's codecs come from libavcodec
[21:03] <bjsnider> what file are you trying to play?
[21:04] <dORSY> sec
[21:05] <dORSY> http://streamer.carnation.hu/mtvod2/hirado/2010/06/15/hirado19_100615.wmv
[21:23] <bjsnider> dorsy, that file is tiny
[21:36] <bjsnider> dorsy, my system is able to play what's there without the w64codecs file, because i have the libavcodec-extra package installed
[22:10]  * funkyHat ponders downgrading X
[22:25] <EagleScreen> will Maverick have Gnome 3.0 available for testing ?


[10:37] <mup> PR operator#631 opened: Update unit test env: coverage -> coverage[toml] <Created by jnsgruk> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/pull/631>
[10:38] <mup> PR operator#631 closed: Update unit test env: coverage -> coverage[toml] <Created by jnsgruk> <Merged by jnsgruk> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/pull/631>
[13:55] <mup> PR operator#632 opened: Split long log messages <Created by petevg> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/pull/632>


[00:03] <personal> KDE directory file has no relative path
[00:03] <personal> KDE .directory file for thumbnail has no relative path ?
[00:04] <personal> No colours allowed, tha fuck!.   I'm here just in case something happens (again)
[00:15] <personal> If agains happen should find a new carrer
[00:16] <personal> Perperate looser aint an option, find a new job for fucks sake
[00:16] <magic_ninja> oh shush it douche nozzle. You can't even spell properly.
 Anyway, finally got WiFi to work. It's weird how a clean install with internet works better than after
[00:17] <personal> Give me realtive paths for my thimbnails you fucks sake
[00:17] <magic_ninja> I don't think anyone is giving you anything with that attitude.
[00:17] <magic_ninja> Well, they might give you an /ignore
[00:17] <personal> Needy arse bitch programmer cunts, find a new job you needy bitchs, like cross walks, like some thign anal
 Lul
[00:23] <Dragnslcr> Well that was exciting
[01:03] <magic_ninja> I was waiting for it.
[02:12] <tdhttt> so the virtual desktop is not independent across activities?
[02:13] <tdhttt> if I swap the virtual desktops in one activity, they also get swapped in another activity
[02:13] <tdhttt> I thought it would be better and more flexible if they are independent
[04:48] <viewer|88> Is this the correct channel to ask about Kubuntu 20.04.1 installation issues ?
[04:59] <diogenes_> viewer|88, yes
[05:16] <viewer|88> diogenes_ - thanks. I have a laptop, screen is not owrking, but have had Kubuntu 19.10 running okay on it with an external monitor. So, trying 20.04.1 - used "mkusb" to create a live boot from the ISO, but the install doesn't give me the 'install' link on the desktop, until I drop down to terminal, run 'startx' and then login. But the desktop file
[05:16] <viewer|88> that runs the install seems to run for about 10 seconds and then does nothing ??
[05:18] <Guest83239> hello
[05:18] <viewer|88> I think having the external monitor and the laptop screen not working is causing problems, but not sure ?
[05:23] <diogenes_> viewer|88, quite possible that's due to the external monitor, try to access the display setting from s termina..
[05:23] <diogenes_> terminal*
[05:35] <viewer|88> diogenes_ - thanks. I try looking thru the display from "journalctl -b" and it is not telling me much, after I try the install icon from the desktop.  Is there some other log file to check or command to run to see what is happening please ?
[07:07] <jadezi> :X
[07:08] <jadezi> :-|
 Hello
 (Photo, 1105x733) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/c8L11WBs/file_38278.jpg Since upgrade to Kubuntu 20.10; I have lot of graphics issues (visible in screenshots= after computer switch from standby to wake  … Graphics:  Device-1: NVIDIA GM107 [GeForce GTX 750 Ti] driver: nvidia v: 450.80.02
 (and compositor cannot be enabled)
 I must reboot for solve issue
[08:51] <Bazzie> Hey, is it okay to ask a question here, related to internet connections?
[08:57] <MrSassyPants> So I still don't have an "advanced" tab in my mouse settings. Setting the xorg config to use evdev didn't work, apparently there is no evdev driver. This is both with 20.04 and now upgraded to 20.10 to see if it's fixed
[08:59] <ms68> Good morning all
[09:02] <fahad-M>  psmouse serio1: elantech: elantech_send_cmd query 0x02 failed.
[09:02] <fahad-M>  i get this error every time
[09:02] <fahad-M> any solutions?
[09:02] <MrSassyPants> Hmm, well, manually installing xserver-xorg-input-evdev seems to have fixed it m(
[09:03] <fahad-M> searched all over google for solution but no success
[09:03] <fahad-M> kubuntu 20.10
[09:09]  * fahad-M sent a long message:  < https://kde.modular.im/_matrix/media/r0/download/kde.org/93ea803d4ccd7d086a8e7d86bb7c1cb7d482dc30/message.txt >
[09:10]  * fahad-M sent a long message:  < https://kde.modular.im/_matrix/media/r0/download/kde.org/73958714239421b03fc642d6ab2e5c416e217831/message.txt >
[09:30] <fahad-M> ok after 2 years, somehow i solved it, turns out i just needed few more packages to be installed after installing an oem file from dell which i repackaged from ubuntu 18.04 shipped with laptop.
[09:33] <fahad-M> wow
[09:40] <ms68> good morning all
[10:04] <ms68> Is anyone here ?
[10:06] <Maik> !ask | ms68
[10:07] <Maik> and if you want to chit-chat ypu can join #kubuntu-offtopic
[10:07] <Maik> ypu/you
[10:09] <ms68> Got it, thank you. I never had a experience with IRC community before.
[11:07] <fahad-M> I cannot find 20.10 a from 16.04 even after configuring checking option for upgrade to any new version. Any idea?
[11:14]  * fahad-M uploaded an image: 20201028_161407_2921086137209411992.jpg (166KiB) < https://kde.modular.im/_matrix/media/r0/download/kde.org/914c4d6eb254328cebec992a1569d64c588f5411/20201028_161407_2921086137209411992.jpg >
[11:19] <Maik> fahad-M: not possible to upgrade from 16.04 to 20.10
[11:20] <Maik> fresh install is your best option
[11:28] <fahad-M> Ok thank you
[11:28] <Maik> yw
[12:41] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:41] <Maik> o/
[15:06] <jemand> Hi all, Since the Kubuntu 20.10 I ran into a big prob with Thunderbird:  It wont start normal. Only SAFE-MODE. Here is what happens: https://invent.kde.org/-/snippets/1327     Any clues?
[16:52] <abrax_> hi
 Any telegram channel for specifically hosting Ubuntu softwares?
 @the_hobbyist, Which softwares
 .exe
[19:50] <rangergord> I'm using a Kubuntu 18.04 VM, and the Leave menu doesn't have the option to reboot or shutdown, like Kubuntu 20.04 does. My only System option is Suspend to RAM, while 20.04 also has Restart and Shut Down. Other than "sudo reboot" how were ordinary mortals meant to reboot or shut down 18.04?
[19:51] <rangergord> Is it a borked VM, or just bad design from the 18.04 team?


[12:30] <DelphiWorld> salam
[12:30] <DelphiWorld> Tux-Tn: salam
[12:30] <DelphiWorld> Tux-Tn: pm me votre téléphone svp
[12:30] <DelphiWorld> salut ButterflyOfFire !
[12:54] <DelphiWorld> wissem ;)
[12:55] <wissem> hello DelphiWorld
[12:55] <wissem> ça va?
[12:55] <DelphiWorld> bien HMD
[12:55] <DelphiWorld> vous?
[13:03] <Tux-Tn> hello DelphiWorld wissem
[13:03] <DelphiWorld> ;)
[15:02] <DelphiWorld> salam Neo31
[15:02] <DelphiWorld> Tux-Tn: billé réservé!
[15:05] <DelphiWorld> sava Neo31 ?
[15:05] <Neo31> hey DelphiWorld
[15:05] <Neo31> :)
[15:05] <Neo31> how are you!
[15:05] <DelphiWorld> good :D
[15:05] <DelphiWorld> you ?
[15:05] <Neo31> great :)
[15:05] <Neo31> not bad :)
[15:05] <Neo31> still alive which is something good :)
[15:06] <DelphiWorld> Neo31: i'm comming to tunisia tomorrow;-)
[15:07] <Neo31> how long will you stay ?
[15:07] <DelphiWorld> Neo31: 24ours only;-)
[15:07] <Neo31> oups
[15:08] <Neo31> I guess you'll stay at tunis then, hum
[15:08] <DelphiWorld> yes
[15:08]  * Neo31 wishes DelphiWorld a good trip
[15:08] <DelphiWorld> i won see you and anis sadly
[15:09] <DelphiWorld> thank Neo31
[15:09] <DelphiWorld> but i'lle meet Neo31
[15:09] <DelphiWorld> i'lle meet Tux-Tn
[15:09] <Neo31> we are un Sussah
[15:09] <Neo31> I can get to tunis the next day
[15:09] <Neo31> the best I can try is to go to tunis tomorrow night
[15:10] <DelphiWorld> good!
[15:10] <DelphiWorld> so we can meet after tomorrow
[15:11] <DelphiWorld> i'lle need to go to radio zitouna
[15:11] <Neo31> ok
[15:12] <DelphiWorld> :)
[15:12] <Neo31> when will you be free ?
[15:12] <DelphiWorld> Neo31: after tomorrow morning
[15:13] <DelphiWorld> Neo31: please can you check for me http://www.zitounafm.net/ar/ ? i want there phone/Contact
[15:13] <Neo31> ok
[15:15] <Neo31> there is a contact form here http://www.zitounafm.net/ar/contact
[15:16] <DelphiWorld> Neo31: they dont have any phone or address?
[15:16] <Neo31> that's all i could find
[15:16] <Neo31> no
[15:16] <Neo31> let me see if I can get you something
[15:18] <Neo31> 00216 71 136 000
[15:18] <Neo31> here it is
[15:18] <Neo31> if it doesn't work just as again I'll see if they got another number
[15:19] <Neo31> DelphiWorld
[15:19] <DelphiWorld> checkin
[15:19] <DelphiWorld> checking
[15:19] <Neo31> ok
[15:20] <os_> Neo31: if you r give a password to someone ... it is recommended to give it with a /query chat ..
[15:20] <os_> Neo31: if you r giving a password to someone ... it is recommended to give it with a /query chat ..
[15:20] <os_> :)
[15:21] <Neo31> does it look like a password os_ ?
[15:22] <Zargonovski> Neo?
[15:22] <Neo31> a password would look like this OHU^&jyg6&76gaTBU
[15:22] <Neo31> hello Zargonovski
[15:24] <Zargonovski> Hi there
[15:24] <DelphiWorld> Neo31: thank you a lot
[15:25] <DelphiWorld> Neo31: i contacted one imam there!
[15:25] <Neo31> you're welcome DelphiWorld
[15:25] <DelphiWorld> Neo31: :P
[15:25] <Neo31> Zargonovski= zrouga ?
[15:25] <DelphiWorld> salam Ghilas
[15:26] <Ghilas> Salam DelphiWorld
[15:26] <Neo31> when you go there ask them to put their number on their website, not everyone know how to get it especially then their are not from tunisia
[15:26] <DelphiWorld> Ghilas: algérie ?
[15:26] <Zargonovski> wi
[15:26] <Zargonovski> :)
[15:26] <Ghilas> Oui
[15:26] <Zargonovski> cv neo
[15:26] <DelphiWorld> Ghilas: qu'elle région ?
[15:26] <Neo31> ^^ mar7ba mar7ba :)
[15:26] <Ghilas> Bejaia DelphiWorld
[15:27] <Zargonovski> ach a7walek
[15:27] <Zargonovski>  ??
[15:27] <DelphiWorld> Ghilas: tré tré bien... l'amoure des français, si non la france n'existe pas
[15:27] <Neo31> fine
[15:27] <DelphiWorld> j'espaire que tu connais sa:-)
[15:27] <Neo31> u?
[15:27] <Zargonovski> not much ;)
[15:27] <Zargonovski> what's up !!
[15:27] <Neo31> lol, dima de5il fi 7itt Zargonovski ?
[15:27] <Ghilas> LOL , Je ne sais pas ;) DelphiWorld
[15:27] <Zargonovski> nn ^^
[15:28] <Neo31> nothin special Zargonovski
[15:28] <Zargonovski> good
[15:28] <DelphiWorld> Ghilas: alore tu sais maintenan, les français en 1957 on décidé de prande hassi messoud et bejaya
[15:28] <Zargonovski> i'm on my open hardware stuff
[15:28] <Zargonovski> :p
[15:28] <DelphiWorld> pour l'importation et l'exportation du petrol
[15:28] <Zargonovski> selem DelphiWorld
[15:29] <DelphiWorld> la production et l'exportation...
[15:29] <Ghilas> Oui c'est vrai surtout le sud de l'Algérie :)
[15:29] <DelphiWorld> salam Zargonovski :)
[15:29] <Ghilas> sont malin ces français
[15:29] <DelphiWorld> Ghilas: non, même bejaya... le poin tré important d'exportation
[15:29] <Ghilas> Oui Oui
[15:31] <Neo31> hh good work Zargonovski
[15:50] <os_> Neo31: believe me .. but some programs like teamview run in linux .. and force you to use passwords like this !
[15:50] <Neo31> nope i don't agree os
[15:50] <Neo31> I used teamviewer before
[15:51] <os_> ah ?
[15:51] <os_> :) ?
[15:51] <Neo31> and there is an option to change the password and use more complex ones
[15:51] <os_> oh .. i didn't notice that
[15:52] <Neo31> look at the configuration options you'll find where you can set up your own permanent password
[15:52] <os_> i think linux edition contain wine emulation
[15:52] <os_> i think linux edition contains wine emulation
[15:52] <Neo31> the other one is temporary which will change every time you start tv
[15:52] <Neo31> yep
[15:52] <Neo31> it does you are right
[15:53] <os_> and name of process contain a .exe suffix
[15:53] <os_> (LA
[15:54] <Neo31> humm
[15:54] <Neo31> I didn't pay attention to details
[15:54] <Neo31> I'm not a fan of tv on linux anyway
[15:54] <os_> neither i
[15:55] <Neo31> good
[15:55] <os_> is there any other arabic ubuntu channels ?
[15:55] <os_> like #ubuntu-eg
[15:55] <Neo31> yep
[15:55] <os_> and #ubuntu-arabic !
[15:56] <Neo31> #ubuntu-eg #ubuntu-dz #ubuntu-mo
[15:56] <Neo31> #ubuntu-arabic is not that active
[15:57] <os_> ubuntu-mo is not exist
[15:57] <Neo31> it is stuck with someone who is not active nor coordinating with other loco teams
[15:57] <Neo31> hum not sure
[15:57] <Neo31> there is a loco team in morocco
[15:58] <os_> OK..
[15:58] <Neo31> maybe it is mc
[15:58] <Neo31> just google it
[15:58] <os_> why google
[15:58] <os_> i have search feature here
[15:59] <os_> xchat!
[15:59] <Neo31> yep
[15:59] <Neo31> just do it then
[16:00] <Neo31> but i recommended google because there is a good page on ubuntu wiki or loco dir
[16:00] <os_> the most active is #linuxac
[16:00] <Neo31> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/
[16:00] <Neo31> it is ma
[16:02] <Neo31> yep, but linuxac is not an ubuntu loco team
[16:02] <Neo31> it's a general linux community working on their own
[16:03] <os_> i know ..
[16:04] <Neo31> i used to hangout there and in other channels
[16:04] <Neo31> linuxac is active
[16:04] <os_> veru active
[16:04] <Neo31> then there is ubuntu-eg
[16:04] <os_> yeh ..
[16:04] <Neo31> and north african loco teams
[16:05] <os_> maybe :)
[16:05] <Neo31> i know some members from sa syria and iraq
[16:05] <Neo31> but didn't manage to gather a team to start up
[16:06] <os_> i think this is not the true time
[16:06] <Neo31> it's never the right time
[16:06] <Neo31> we just have to do it
[16:06] <os_> i know a syrian distribution developer .. from aleppo
[16:07] <os_> it is 15 years old
[16:07] <Neo31> good
[16:07] <os_> since aleppo attack .. he has never seen after
[16:07] <os_> :(
[16:08] <Neo31> you don't need to gather developers and experts to start a loco team in syria
[16:08] <os_> may be there is no internet in aleppo now ..
[16:08] <os_> Neo31: may be i will be arrest for that XD !
[16:08] <Neo31> there are many simple activities that can be done whiting loco teams
[16:08] <Neo31> why would they arrest you ?
[16:09] <os_> i don't know  XF
[16:09] <Neo31> hh come on
[16:09] <Neo31> I don't think they will
[16:09] <os_> i will not try now
[16:09] <Neo31> I know things sucks some times but not that much
[16:09] <Neo31> ok
[16:09] <os_> i have hard study this year
[16:09] <Neo31> same for most of us
[16:10] <os_> there is no schools here
[16:10] <Neo31> sorry about that
[16:10] <os_> but i have to continue this .. or i will taken to army this year
[16:11] <os_> XD
[16:12] <Neo31> good luck man, just do what you think is best
[16:13] <Neo31> i'm not a judge nor asking you to do whatever you have tough
[16:13] <Neo31> I just was trying to ask and help if possible
[16:28] <DelphiWorld> :P
[16:30] <DelphiWorld> Neo31: lol tv
[16:31] <ounis> hey DelphiWorld
[16:31] <Neo31> :)
[16:31] <Neo31> ahla ounis
[16:31] <DelphiWorld> hey ounis
[16:31] <ounis> howdy Neo31
[16:31] <ounis> sup?
[16:31] <Neo31> so DelphiWorld when you'll be free after tomorrow ?
[16:31] <Neo31> nothin special
[16:31] <Neo31> u?
[16:32] <DelphiWorld> Neo31: yeah and i'm happy i got a contact in zitouna radio to make a deal with them :-)
[16:32] <ounis> same
[16:32] <Neo31> good 4 u DelphiWorld


[01:08] <lubot3> Biddie Caba was added by: Biddie Caba
[04:15] <lubot3> Daune Devita was added by: Daune Devita
[06:02] <lubot3> Biddie Caba was removed by: acheronuk
[12:55] <lubot3> Bridie Ackerman was added by: Bridie Ackerman
[21:07] <lubot3> Aubrey Brewer was added by: Aubrey Brewer
 Maybe we should restrict joining this chat? And change IRC topic to say “Ping us here to be added to the Telegram chat”?
 I can't tell if these people are legit or not.
 @mitya57, Yeah.
 Sounds good to me.
 Two previous sets of joining people were bots, so these are most probably too :)
[21:12] <lubot3> * mitya57 finds it suspicious that their names all start with {A,B,C,D}
 @mitya57, You're surprisingly popular among bots :)
 The chat link must have got to some spam list
 does anyone else keep reading "Achim Bohnet" as "Achim Botnet"?
[21:14] <lubot3> * acheronuk hides
 I don't have rights to change or delete the group name (t.me/ubuntuqt), @tsimonq2 can you do that?
 Or there is no way back? :)
 @mitya57, .
 Thanks! Can you update the IRC topic as well?
 Doing :)
 Looks great, thank you!
 \o/
[21:33] <lubot3> Aubrey Brewer was removed by: mitya57
[21:33] <lubot3> Bridie Ackerman was removed by: mitya57
[21:33] <lubot3> Daune Devita was removed by: mitya57
[21:52] <tsimonq2> Dup time.
[21:52] <tsimonq2> Whoops, wrong chan.
[22:34] <acheronuk> o_O
[22:35] <tsimonq2> I had to make one bug a duplicate of another. Thus, dup time. :P
[22:48] <valorie> Achim Bohnet is a real person
[22:52] <acheronuk> I know. just joking
[22:58] <valorie> I read it the same way sometimes
[22:58] <valorie> :-)


[02:19] <emma> how is xubuntu looking these days?
[02:26] <holstein> emma: check it out live.. load it up
[02:45] <jparr> emma: great on a thinkpad t430s here
[03:10] <Pwnna> some how i lost the ability to resize my window with SHIFT + rightclick?
[03:10] <Pwnna> how do i get that back?
[03:36] <holstein> Pwnna: i suppose you could always reset the .config files for it.. is it not in the window manager settings?
[03:40] <Pwnna> holstein: i have a lot of other settings
[03:40] <Pwnna> holstein: idk.
[03:40] <Pwnna> i don't know what i'm looking for
[03:40] <Pwnna> there's a short cut for resizing window
[03:41] <Pwnna> but that's not SHIFT + right click
[03:46] <redderhs> emma: i'm running 13.04 on a Lenovo Y500 coming from Windows 7, I love it.
[03:47] <redderhs> very polished..
[04:59] <slash0mega> hello, dose the xubuntu iso fit on a cd?
[04:59] <Unit193> Nope.
[04:59] <slash0mega> ok, thank you for the quick answer :)
[04:59] <Unit193> Problem with that?
[05:00] <Unit193> If the BIOS doesn't support it booting off USB, could see if a BIOS update would fix it.
[05:01] <slash0mega> thanks, but i think ill just pick up some dvd's tomorow
[05:06] <Ryan-in-Sea-Town> hey guys
[05:07] <ObrienDave> greetings, and welcome
[05:08] <Ryan-in-Sea-Town> Thank you!
[09:29] <cousteau> can I set the sound output to mono?  one of my earbuds doesn't work
[09:30] <cousteau> (tried to do this on another PC with Windows 7 and it can't be done; I mostly want to do this to make my Windows friend envious)
[09:32] <cousteau> doesn't seem to be possible graphically
[09:33] <Unit193> http://askubuntu.com/questions/17791/can-i-downmix-stereo-audio-to-mono looks fun in PA. :P
[09:34] <cousteau> so seems to be possible but not GUI-ly
[09:40] <cousteau> re: my one-eared earphones I'll just store them carefully in the garbage bin and get another ones
[11:40] <eva_> hi upgraded my mothers laptop to 13.10 and her keyboard stopped functioning, its ok in BIOS so its not hardware fault. What can i do?
[11:42] <bgardner> eva_: Do you have an external keyboard that you can use to diagnose with?
[11:42] <eva_> bgardner, im using it right now
[11:42] <eva_> external keyboard that it
[11:43] <eva_> Some Tech guy tried to fix it stupid. Now SuperKey does not work on external either.. i have no idea what he done
[11:44] <eva_> i dont want to reinstall the whole os but will if i must
[11:44] <bgardner> eva_: I'd start with dmesg if I were you, then - see if any notes in there about the keyboard.
[11:44] <bgardner> eva_: Go ahead and pastebin it if you would like me to review it with you.
[11:45] <eva_> bgardner, he messed up shortcuts.. ctrl+alt+T opens another window in xchat instead of terminall..gaaah
[11:45] <bgardner> eva_: Yuck.  Okay, separate issues though - we'll start with the keyboard.
[11:46] <eva_> cant copy the text lol
[11:46] <eva_> i get ^C in terminal instead while i ctrl+C
[11:46] <eva_> GAHD
[11:46] <bgardner> In a terminal, use Ctrl-Shift-C
[11:47] <bgardner> Or use the pastebinit command, like this:  dmesg | pastebinit
[11:47] <bgardner> Ctrl-C has a different meaning in a terminal, that's not broken.
[11:48] <eva_> alt+tab is also broken
[11:48] <eva_> he returned her laptop and said" nooop could not fix it but here is an external keyboard" lol
[11:48] <bekks> alt+tab doesnt work in terminal.
[11:48] <eva_> no but switching between windows should
[11:49] <eva_> bgardner, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6381614/
[11:53] <bgardner> eva_: What is the make/model of your laptop?
[11:54] <eva_> lg p1 express dual
[11:55] <eva_> must reboot brb
[11:58] <eva_> bgardner, there
[11:58] <bgardner> eva_: There what?
[12:00] <eva_> http://stevesubuntutweaks.blogspot.se/2013/10/laptop-keyboard-stopped-working-after.html bgardner , will try this
[12:01] <bgardner> eva_: Found a similar thread on ubuntuforums, here is the link for your reference: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2041483
[12:02] <bgardner> eva_: Definitely sounds like you found the solution in that first link, though.
[12:34] <eva_> bgardner, hey, i solved it with the link i sent
[12:35] <eva_> I want my mother to try xfce instead of unity since Unity is a little demaning on her old laptop.. is installing xfce or xubuntu-desktop the best approach?
[12:35] <eva_> approach
[12:35] <eva_> what do you recommend
[12:36] <cfhowlett> eva_, to try xfce just install xfce4.  to give her the full meal deal, xubuntu-desktop
[12:36] <koegs> xfce is plain xfce, xubuntu-desktop ist xfce with all shiny apps and themes
[12:37] <eva_> cfhowlett, yeah. but will i have double of everything or can my ubuntu install co-exist with xubuntu-desktop fine?
[12:38] <cfhowlett> eva_, no doubling and they'll co-exist
[12:38] <eva_> BUT.. won't a lot of unity stuff show up in xubuntu when chose that session?
[12:38] <eva_> Like indicators etc packages installed
[12:39] <cfhowlett> eva_, I did this earlier tonight on the company machine.  unity in only the interface.  the apps will run
[12:39] <eva_> cfhowlett, ah ok! you installed xubuntu-desktop?
[12:39] <cfhowlett> and the non-xfce/xubuntu indicators just won't appear
[12:39] <eva_> awesome
[12:39] <cfhowlett> eva_, no only xfce
[12:39] <eva_> Ah ok...
[12:40] <eva_> Just tell me what to do i can't make up my mind cfhowlett
[12:40] <eva_> lol
[12:41] <cfhowlett> eva_, install xfce4, logout, choose xfce login.  OR skip all that
[12:41] <cfhowlett> logout, choose the openbox? option and log back in.  no unity
[12:41] <eva_> wut
[12:41] <koegs> if you install xfce, it will not look like the screenshot at xubuntu.org, you will have a plain xfce but with all apps coming with ubuntu
[12:42] <eva_> koegs, yes, but if i install xubuntu-desktop will i have two update-managers etc? two network managers runnin etc?
[12:42] <koegs> nope
[12:42] <koegs> both use the same packages, they wont be installed or used twice
[12:42] <eva_> Ah ok.. old issue perhaps i remember i screwed my old system that way
[12:42] <eva_> lots of errors where given
[12:43] <eva_> koegs, so you recommend me to install xubuntu-desktop instead of xfce4? ;)
[12:43] <cfhowlett> eva_, that's one reason I suggest ONLY the DE and not the desktop install
[12:43] <koegs> if you want the full xubuntu-like experience, yes
[12:44] <eva_> cfhowlett, so it could happen?
[12:44] <brainwash> I've installed every single desktop environment on my test system and the xfce and xubuntu sessions run just fine
[12:44] <cfhowlett> eva_, nope, pretty sure as koegs said.
[12:44] <eva_> brainwash, wow.. everyone?
[12:44] <eva_> I will install xubuntu-desktop now. i hope she is not mad by me.. i just want to show her how speedy stuff goes
[12:44] <brainwash> eva_: yes, unity, kde, gnome, lxde, e17, razor-qt,..
[12:44] <eva_> but perhaps i should check out xfce4 first
[12:44] <eva_> brainwash, cool
[12:45] <eva_> see if it runs much smoother
[12:46] <eva_> xfce package is not even in ubuntu software center
[12:46] <cfhowlett> eva_, sudo apt-get install xfce4
[12:46] <eva_> thanks
[12:49] <eva_> comeonnnnn
[12:49] <eva_> oh sorry tought i was in another window
[12:50] <cfhowlett> eva_, might also want to peek at lubuntu/lxde.  same command sequence
[12:51] <eva_> thanks
[12:51] <eva_> sudo apt-get install lxde
[14:19] <xubuntu701> hello
[14:19] <xubuntu701> italian chan please
[14:19] <Sysi> !it
[14:53] <Nepomuk> Hello World. I am new to ubuntu. I installed XUbuntu on my netbook and i am searching a way to see my HDD's. I am searching for 30min now and i can't find it.
[19:04] <jax23> hi genii
[19:05] <jax23> i solved the problem
[19:05] <jax23> i reinstalled the o.s.
[19:06] <jax23> *sigh*
[19:06] <jax23> :-(
[19:07] <genii> jax23: Yes, I figured that was probably the only way, as their support page indicated.
[19:07] <jax23> thanks for your interest
[19:07] <jax23> i think so
[19:08] <jax23> bye bye
[19:13] <genii> jax23: You know where I am if you need assistance another time :)
[20:04] <Nate_> Hello. Could someone please help me with a sound issue?
[20:05] <Nate_> I have recently installed Xubuntu 13;10 and am having the non-functioning sound indicator issue
[20:05] <Nate_> I have tried the fixes listed here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/360806/volume-indicator-issue-after-xubuntu-13-10-upgrade
[20:05] <Nate_> and here: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/10/xubuntu-1310-sound-indicator-fix.html
[20:05] <Nate_> but neither seems to have worked.
[20:06] <Poisoned_Dragon> Nate_, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/1208204
[20:06] <ljunggren> i deleted it from the panel
[20:06] <Poisoned_Dragon> Read comment 5
[20:07] <Poisoned_Dragon> then log out and log back in.
[20:07] <Nate_> I tried the fix listed there
[20:07] <Nate_> and I have logged out and back in
[20:07] <Nate_> but it does not work
[20:07] <Poisoned_Dragon> Then it should be working, unless you have hardware issues.
[20:07] <Nate_> It worked perfectly fine running Ubuntu 13.04
[20:07] <Nate_> as recently as two hours ago
[20:08] <Poisoned_Dragon> I use Ubuntu Studio 13.10
[20:08] <Poisoned_Dragon> Fix works fine.
[20:08] <Nate_> Now, I will mention that logging out and back in seems to be saving my session, despite leaving the check box unchecked
[20:08] <Nate_> So I am wondering if it is not reloading the settings in the way it is supposed to
[20:08] <ljunggren> have you rebooted
[20:08] <ljunggren> just to be sure
[20:08] <Nate_> I have
[20:09] <Nate_> I have ever peformed a complete shutdown
[20:09] <Nate_> *even
[20:09] <ljunggren> a ok
[20:09] <Nate_> It is still saving my session
[20:09] <Nate_> and the sound still is not workin
[20:09] <Nate_> *working
[20:09] <ljunggren> wait
[20:09] <ljunggren> sound is not working?
[20:09] <Nate_> Not at all
[20:09] <ljunggren> at all?
[20:09] <ljunggren> Ah then its another issue
[20:09] <Nate_> I see
[20:10] <Poisoned_Dragon> Yeah, the fix only fixes the indicator.
[20:10] <Poisoned_Dragon> If you're having hardware issues, you must resolve them first.
[20:10] <ljunggren> lol
[20:10] <ljunggren> i can't even log out?
[20:10] <ljunggren> press logout and nothing happens
[20:10] <ljunggren> what just happened...
[20:11] <ljunggren> is there a command for loging out
[20:15] <Nate_> OK I'll bite. I don't see a proprietary driver that I might have missed. What else could be causing my sound issue?
[20:18] <Junka> when will xubuntu will official fix the sound indicator?
[20:21] <Nate_> Ah. Got it.
[20:21] <Poisoned_Dragon> What was it?
[20:21] <Nate_> Needed to remove and re-install alsa-pulseaudio apparently
[20:21] <Poisoned_Dragon> Oh... weird.
[20:21] <Poisoned_Dragon> But, as long as you're at full speed
[20:21] <Nate_> sed the first alternate method on this page: http://itsfoss.com/fix-sound-ubuntu-1304-quick-tip/
[20:22] <Poisoned_Dragon> so be it
[20:23] <Poisoned_Dragon> cool
[20:24] <Nate_> OK, new problem.  It doesn't appear under "add new items" for the panel
[20:24] <Nate_> The volume CAN be changed with the hardware keys
[20:24] <Poisoned_Dragon> the sound indicator isn't a plugin on it's own.
[20:25] <Poisoned_Dragon> It's appears in the indicator plugin
[20:25] <Poisoned_Dragon> If the indicator plugin is in the panel, it's not the fault of the plugin
[20:26] <Nate_> I restored the indicator, and it brought back network status but not the sound controls
[20:28] <Poisoned_Dragon> might need to log out and in again, since you uninstalled/reinstalled that package.
[20:29] <Poisoned_Dragon> Oh... wait
[20:29] <Poisoned_Dragon> did you reload alsa?
[20:29] <Nate_> yes
[20:29] <Poisoned_Dragon> sudo alsa force-reload?
[20:30] <Nate_> yes
[20:30] <Poisoned_Dragon> Hmm... Then I dunno.
[20:30] <Poisoned_Dragon> Short of rebooting.
[20:30] <Nate_> is there an alternate volume control I can use?
[20:31] <Nate_> well, I can try rebooting. I'm not chatting on the machine I'm working on
[20:31] <Poisoned_Dragon> Oh, do that then.
[20:31] <Poisoned_Dragon> Tell us what happens.
[20:31] <Nate_> will do.
[20:31] <Poisoned_Dragon> I gotta get me some headache pills.
[20:31] <Nate_> Soft reboot or all the way off to all the way back on?
[20:33] <Poisoned_Dragon> Try logging out first.
[20:33] <Poisoned_Dragon> Then worry about going all the way.
[20:34] <Nate_> logging out didn't work
[20:34] <Nate_> Trying a complete power off
[20:35] <Nate_> that didn't work either.
[20:35] <Nate_> Is there an alternate volume control I can try instead?
[20:35] <Nate_> I know it can be changed. The hardware keys for it work fine.
[20:41] <Nate_> OK, I was able to re-inable it in the startup panel
[20:41] <Nate_> the only odd problem is that the icon is black instead of white
[20:43] <Nate_> Also, there is no sound option in settings manager.
[20:45] <Nate_> Close enough for now I guess. Thanks for the help.
[21:04] <ljunggren> It's so boring i get bad UI performance with fgrlx drivers but bad performance in game with opensource drivers
[21:04] <ljunggren> dilema
[21:04] <bekks> So play games more often, or dont play them anymore ;)
[21:04] <ljunggren> yup
[21:05] <ljunggren> something like that
[21:05] <ljunggren> actually im in the wrong channel because on xfce i don't have this issue
[21:05] <ljunggren> lol
[21:07] <ljunggren> sorry
[21:14] <glenrock> what's the recommend way to fix the boot process (plymouth?) after installing the nvidia proprietary drivers?
[21:15] <ljunggren> hey
[21:15] <ljunggren> how do you guys watch movies without screentearing
[21:28] <David-A> ljunggren: maybe there are settings in the graphics driver you can try? maybe you can try different video output method in the media player?
[21:29] <David-A> ljunggren: come back and tell us what media player you used
[21:31] <Junka> parole
[21:40] <ljunggren> i dont know what i have done now.. but my UI is really choppy but i get like 3000fps in glxgears..i use to get 800..
[21:41] <ljunggren> and when put vsync on in amd ccc settings i get 30fps.. i have 60hz screen
[23:11] <winb> :)


[12:16] <DanielC> I can't think today. I'll figure out how to use pbuilder tomorrow.
[12:16] <DanielC> I should go to bed.
[12:17] <LaserJock> I"ve got to go today
[12:17] <LaserJock> s/today/now/
[12:17] <LaserJock> shesh
[12:17] <DanielC> take care
[12:17] <LaserJock> DanielC: go ahead and upload the source package to revu
[12:17] <DanielC> LaserJock: ok :)
[12:18] <LaserJock> try to build it in pbuilder when you can
[12:18] <DanielC> k
[12:18] <LaserJock> I'll do the same but since there isn't a lot to go wrong I wouldn't expect any problems :-)
[12:18] <DanielC> :-)
[12:19] <LaserJock> DanielC: cya
[12:19] <DanielC> cya
[12:27] <DFM> Hi all.
[12:28] <Burgundavia> hey DFM
[12:28] <DFM> Finally found my way in here.
[12:28] <DFM> Looking for some help on edbuntu.
[12:28] <DFM> I need to change a network setting and it needs the root password.
[12:29] <DFM> I searched the site and it tells of using sudo to access root but I thought that was a command to use in the shell?
[12:29] <Burgundavia> no, Edubuntu and Ubuntu use sudo, which means you need your password
[12:30] <DFM> I don't recall setting up a root pw. I only set one up for my daughter,
[12:30] <Burgundavia> you didn't
[12:31] <Burgundavia> the first user account is in the admin group
[12:31] <DFM> ah
[12:31] <Burgundavia> no subsequent users are in that group unless you explicitly add them
[12:31] <DFM> so even though I am not running in root all I need to do is use her pw to access it?
[12:32] <Burgundavia> assuming you set up her account on install, yes
[12:32] <DFM> I'm starting to really like Linux
[12:32] <Burgundavia> indeed. Although I should point out that only Ubuntu does sudo by default
[12:33] <Burgundavia> other distros still use a root account
[12:33] <DFM> What is sudo?
[12:33] <pygi> !!!
[12:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about !!
[12:33] <pygi> !sudo
[12:33] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:33] <Burgundavia> it stands for SUperuser DO
[12:34] <DFM> thanks sorry for the lack of knowledge. I did attempt to find info before coming here.
[12:34] <Burgundavia> hey no worries
[12:34] <Burgundavia> that is what we are here for
[12:34] <Burgundavia> hey pygi
[12:34] <DFM> I had to install ChatZilla and learn how to use irc since this is my first time
[12:34] <pygi> hey Burgundavia, morning ^_^
[12:34] <Burgundavia> afternoon actually, but I did just get up
[12:36] <pygi> Burgundavia, ah ^_^
[12:36] <pygi> I just found a python bindings which me and sivang need (I found it before, but not download link), and it's protected by password !!!
[12:36] <pygi> (for libburn)
[12:36] <DFM> Thanks Burgundavia for the help. I imagine I will be back from time to time.
[12:36] <Burgundavia> no worries again
[12:36] <Burgundavia> glad I could help
[12:39] <pygi> Burgundavia, anyway, now it's my turn to sleep ^_^
[12:39] <pygi> night
[04:07] <sbalneav> Evening all
[05:41] <crimsun> 'evening.
[05:41] <HedgeMage> hiya
[05:42] <HedgeMage> Anybody see Seveas recently?
[05:42] <crimsun> he's likely asleep.
[05:42] <crimsun> (but no)
[05:42] <HedgeMage> okay, thanks
[05:43] <HedgeMage> sorry, long week
[05:44] <HedgeMage> how have you been?
[05:44] <crimsun> busy, working, repeat ad nauseum. Yourself?
[05:45] <HedgeMage> same, except I don't get paid for my work :P
[05:45] <crimsun> nor me. :)
[05:51] <HedgeMage> heh
[05:52] <HedgeMage> then we're in the same boat
[06:11] <HedgeMage> I'm off to look for something productive to do, ttyl
[01:14] <kihai> Hi guys, I have a problem I hope someone can help me with: How do I enable Usb-Stick acces on the thin clients on Edubuntu 6.06 or else, is it possible to install LTSP 4.2 on a already running LTSP environment on Edubuntu? I am running a 16 clients pool in a professional environment and beginning from next week I need the usb stick support...
[03:46] <cbx33> hey highvoltage
[03:48] <highvoltage> hi cbx33
[03:48] <cbx33> howz it all going?
[03:49] <highvoltage> peaceful
[03:49] <cbx33> heheh
[03:49] <highvoltage> just went to the gym again for the first time in like 3 weeks, i'm terribly unfit
[04:15] <DanielC> gym is good for you :)
[04:26] <Yagisan> kihai: we don't support local devices with (ed)ubuntu 6.06. We use a different ltsp setup to ltsp.org's ltsp 4.2, so that would be unsupported (and cause trouble when you upgrade)
[04:28] <DanielC> Yagisan: By "we don't support local devices" do you mean that a terminal user couldn't read a file from his USB key?
[04:30] <Yagisan> I mean, cd's, dvds, usb sticks etc, at the moment, to the best of my knowledge, are pretty paperweights in the ltsp terminals
[04:30] <DanielC> :(
[04:30] <DanielC> That's bad.
[04:31] <DanielC> Will they work for Edgy?
[04:31] <Yagisan> it's good for me
[04:31] <Yagisan> at this stage
[04:31] <Yagisan> I believe there is work for in on edgy, but I've been out of the loop a little while
[04:31] <DanielC> We're working on a project here where local access to usb keys would be crucial.
[04:31] <Yagisan> s/in on/it on
[04:32] <DanielC> I'll ask ogra when he's around.
[04:32] <DanielC> Does it work in plain vanilla ltsp.org?
[04:33] <Yagisan> never tried, I only worked on the ubuntu ltsp stuff
[04:33] <DanielC> k
[04:33] <DanielC> thanks
[04:34] <Yagisan> no problem
[04:34] <Yagisan> DanielC: you could always do what I did
[04:34] <DanielC> ?
[04:34] <Yagisan> send ogra a patch to make it do what you want
[04:34] <DanielC> :)
[04:35] <cbx33> Yagisan, just hte man
[04:35] <Yagisan> the multi-arch server support grew out of a patch I sent
[04:35] <cbx33> local devices is planned for edgy
[04:36] <cbx33> Yagisan, i need to clean up some diskspace
[04:36] <cbx33> can i delete the folder ? /usr/share/games/deng/Data/jHeretic/
[04:38] <cbx33> and the hexen one
[04:39] <Yagisan> cbx33: ah, did you remove all addon packs that refer to it ?
[04:39] <cbx33> not usre
[04:39] <cbx33> s'y i need help
[04:39] <cbx33> I'm only going to play doom and doom II
[04:40] <cbx33> how can i remove all the others
[04:40] <Yagisan> ls -l and pastebin it for me. if the only contents is jhexen.wad or jheretic.wad please leave it
[04:40] <Yagisan> or the package won't uninstall correctly
[04:40] <cbx33> the deng package?
[04:41] <cbx33> i have a usr/share/games/doom
[04:41] <cbx33> and a games/deng folder
[04:42] <cbx33> which is the right one
[04:42] <cbx33> hwo do i remove the other?
[04:43] <Yagisan> cbx33: usr/share/games/doom is where policy says I must install the doom(2).wad files
[04:43] <Yagisan> usr/share/games/deng is private doomsday data
[04:44] <cbx33> but i have wads in both
[04:44] <cbx33> and they are identical
[04:44] <Yagisan> cbx33: jdoom.wad, jheretic.wad, and jhexem.wad is private data
[04:44] <Yagisan> ??
[04:45] <cbx33> diff /usr/share/games/deng/Data/jDoom/doom2.wad /usr/share/games/doom/iwad/doom2/doom2.wad shows 2 identical files
[04:45] <Yagisan> cbx33: half a sec
[04:45] <cbx33> ok
[04:48] <Yagisan> cbx33: /usr/share/games/doom/iwad/doom2/doom2.wad  is from my installer. keep it
[04:48] <cbx33> :(
[04:48] <Yagisan> kill the other one
[04:48] <cbx33> ah ok
[04:49] <cbx33> so can i removed all the wds in the jdoom folder?
[04:50] <Yagisan> not all
[04:50] <Yagisan> keep jdoom.was
[04:50] <Yagisan> er
[04:50] <Yagisan> jdoom.wad
[04:50] <Yagisan> and jheretic.wad, and jhexen.waf
[04:50] <Yagisan> s/waf/wad
[04:56] <cbx33> Yagisan, you got a sec to talk about coding and packaging?
[04:57] <Yagisan> fire away. if I don't answer I ran out of time
[04:57] <cbx33> ok
[04:57] <cbx33> say I'm developing some code
[04:57] <cbx33> and it's al in one source dir
[04:57] <cbx33> cos it's just some python stuff
[04:58] <cbx33> when I install it, it'll be moved to a different location, and some parts will be split
[04:58] <cbx33> do i setup symlinks in my coding environment to simulate this?
[04:58] <cbx33> how do i handle it?||
[04:59] <Yagisan> don't hardcode locations if possible
[04:59] <Yagisan> search the path
[04:59] <cbx33> ?
[04:59] <cbx33> can you givem an example
[05:00] <Yagisan> does your code depend on it being all in one directory ? (have a package for me to check ?)
[05:00] <cbx33> hmm....
[05:00] <cbx33> the binary will be in in /usr/bin
[05:01] <cbx33> everything else, etc glade file, python includes and images for glade will be in usr/share/gisomount
[05:03] <Yagisan> brb
[05:03] <Yagisan> my son puked on the keyboard
[05:03] <cbx33> oh
[05:03] <cbx33> ok
[05:16] <Yagisan> re
[05:17] <highvoltage> is your son ok?
[05:17] <Yagisan> yeah, he ate too much
[05:17] <Yagisan> he's as happy as can be right now
[05:17] <Yagisan> (and he wants more food o_O )
[05:20] <highvoltage> last time i threw up wasn't too pleasant. i had way, way too much to drink. when i puked i aimed for the toilet but it was spinning round the room too fast.
[05:22] <Yagisan> heh
[05:22] <Yagisan> I lat puked after geting food posioning at subway
[05:23] <Yagisan> I covered the halway and bathroom
[05:23] <highvoltage> geepers
[05:23] <Yagisan> never made it close to the toilet
[05:23] <Yagisan> I was still going when the amubulance arrived
[05:27] <highvoltage> i wouldn't either if that happened to me
[05:27] <highvoltage> the subway in france is very weird, they don't have cheese :/
[05:27] <Amaranth> i got food poisoning from a subway once too
[05:28] <Amaranth> made it to my bedroom doorway :p
[05:28] <Amaranth> no ambulance though, i just puked for 10 minutes, drank some water, and went back to bed :P
[05:31] <Yagisan> I got it so bad, my wife freaked
[05:31] <Yagisan> I have an "iron stomach"
[05:31] <Yagisan> most food that goes in, stays in
[05:31] <Yagisan> that day
[05:31] <Yagisan> 17 people got sick at that subway ...
[05:32] <Yagisan> I head a few of the others did
[05:32] <Yagisan> s/head/heard
[05:36] <cbx33> Yagisan, if the food just goes in ans stays in don't you grow extremely large?
[05:36] <cbx33> extremely quickly ?
[05:36] <cbx33> :p
[05:38] <Yagisan> cbx33: no, because thinking up witty retorts burns off all that food
[05:38] <cbx33> ah
[05:39] <cbx33> heheh
[05:39] <jsgotangco> ?
[05:39] <jsgotangco> ?
[05:39] <Yagisan> jsgotangco: food poisoning chat
[05:40] <jsgotangco> ewww
[05:41] <cbx33> oooh
[05:41] <cbx33> kewl
[05:41] <jsgotangco> http://www.opera.com/products/devices/nintendo/features/
[05:41] <cbx33> cool
[05:42] <Yagisan> "oh look at him playing with his nintendo"
[05:43] <jsgotangco> lol
[05:43] <jsgotangco> the psp has a browser as well but its horrible
[05:43] <jsgotangco> i will probably purchase this one
[05:44] <jsgotangco> i just collect pocket game decks
[08:54] <bddebian> Howdy
[08:59] <highvoltage> howdy bddebian
[08:59] <highvoltage> goodnight bddebian
[09:00] <bddebian> Hi highvoltage, Gnight highvoltage
[09:21] <Amaranth> hmm
[09:21] <Amaranth> today was going to be willow hacking day but it looks like it just turned into alacarte release day
[10:30] <spacey> Amaranth: back to willow?
[10:30] <Amaranth> no
[12:03] <pygi> bddebian, poke?
[12:03] <bddebian> Yo
[12:04] <pygi> so you suggest hacking servers? :P
[12:04] <bddebian> Of course ;-)
[12:05] <pygi> bddebian, eh :)