[07:49] <rainer> Hi
 Guys please help i install nvidia-dkms and now my nvidia isnt loading i remove that and nothing change just i can load it with nvidia optimus but its temporary and after restart again i dont have nvidia … I use Arch linux
[10:55] <InspectorCluseau> !tlast
[11:59] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:45] <jean-philippe> Bonjour tout le monde :)
[15:37] <leaftype2> alright, screw this, back to c++
[17:17] <larsmartin> did someone test 21.04 yet?
[17:22] <Maik> larsmartin: there are some who tested it. But i'm not sure if they are around
[17:22] <Maik> it's been testing week after all :)
[17:23] <Maik> testers can be found in #ubuntu-quality which is bridged to ubuntu-testers on telegram
[17:23] <larsmartin> nice with answer, because i get issue if i get less than 1% free speace crach kubuntu and give lot of issue.
[17:23] <larsmartin> so kubuntu-devel did not help?
[17:25] <Maik> kubuntu-devel isn't for support larsmartin
[17:26] <Maik> also 21.04 is still in development, not yet suited for daily usage if you need a OS for that.
[17:32] <larsmartin> i know but its not completely waste to use but its have more issue.
[17:32] <larsmartin> https://i.ibb.co/hFkjh9b/hexchat-21-04.png
[17:32] <larsmartin> did this is normaly or some bugs?
[17:33] <Maik> larsmartin: stop cross posting and second, this channel is for support with Kubuntu, not Ubuntu
[17:34] <Maik> Ubuntu 21.04 related questions belong in #ubuntu+1 because it's still in development
[17:34] <Maik> not that you'll get any answers there though
[17:59] <larsmartin> but can someone help me how to start kde from gnome?
[18:03] <larsmartin_> crlt+alt+ f3 but issue its to slow?
[18:05] <larsmartin_> hi did someone have idea?
[18:06] <larsmartin_> terminal: ubuntu-bug -w' (but with kubuntu?)
[18:11] <user|53763> hello can Kubuntu run on Rasberri Pi 4
[18:24] <user|53763> any one knlow?
[18:33] <Maik> user|53763: officially there's no Pi 4 image
 how to remove bloats from the out of box Kubuntu
[19:34] <Maik> @MacAMoon like what?
[19:35] <Maik> if apps: sudo apt remove <packagename>
 @Maik, okay!
 MLBO
 MLB9
 BTW can you tell me what is backports? and why is it used? @IrcsomeBot
[19:41] <Maik> !backports
[19:41] <Maik> also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
 okay thanks! @IrcsomeBot
[19:48] <heyyBae> i have an old machine configured with Intel core 2 duo 2.33 Ghz (e6550, 2 core, 2 threads) , 4GB DDR3 RAM, 500GB HDD. how will it be for kubuntu?
[19:50] <heyyBae> hi!
[19:52] <Maik> heyyBae: it's sufficient enough i guess, try it through a live session from usb stick
[19:52] <heyyBae> okay! let see
[19:52] <heyyBae> if i have to speed up my desktop, how to do it?
[19:52] <Maik> get a ssd
[19:53] <heyyBae> okay thanks!
[19:53] <Maik> or turn the compositing/effects to instant
[19:53] <Maik> it's in the .... and he's gone
[20:04] <fafernandez> Hi there! I installed the daily image for 21.04 and I noticed that when I press the "Meta" (Windows) key on the keyboard, the Application Launcher menu is not opened anymore. I believe that it used to be the default behaviour that it did open it. Has anybody seen this too?
 I installed 20.04.2, when the next LTS will come, can i update it the latest without losing files?
 @IrcsomeBot what do you think?
[20:16] <Maik> @MacAMoon you can but upgrading to a next release doesn't always work flawless so always backup your important data to a external drive
[20:16] <Maik> and i'm not IrcsomeBot
 Oh! Sorry
[20:17] <Maik> :)
 😊
[20:18] <Maik> fafernandez: 21.04 is still a development version and not yet supported here
[20:19] <Maik> search launchpad for bug reports on 21.04 and if there are none file one against it :)
[20:21] <Maik> fafernandez: or ask in #ubuntu-quality which is bridged to ubuntu testers on Telegram, maybe they know
[20:23] <fafernandez> Thanks Maik!
[20:23] <Maik> you're welcome :)
 What's the update command for kubuntu in the terminal Maik?
[20:32] <magic_ninja> will 4.21 have the 5.11 kernel?
 I mean how to update Kubuntu in the terminal ?
[20:32] <magic_ninja> MacAMoon sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade -y
 @magic_ninja, Thanks Maik!
[20:33] <magic_ninja> second sudo might be unnecessary. Basically, apt update will update your package listing. The upgrade command will update all of your packages. The -y flag just means "yes" so that it doesn't pause to ask you.
[20:34] <genii> For kernel upgrades or application major revision jumps, dist-upgrade
[20:39] <Maik> magic_ninja: no, the second sudo is needed
[20:39] <Maik> magic_ninja: by the way... 4.21?
[20:39] <Maik> you mean 21.04
[20:42] <Maik> currently it has the 5.11 kernel and since it's kernel freeze tomorrow it mostlikely will stay that way
[20:44] <Maik> @MacAMoon for commands in the terminal in Kubuntu you can search the web for answers since the base is Ubuntu, it's the same.
[20:45] <Maik> only the desktop is different and most of the apps
[20:45] <magic_ninja> same difference
[20:45] <magic_ninja> cool. I just need the 5.11 kerenl
 @Maik, Okay okay! Actually, when i tried KDE neon, it has different command for updating repos. So i asked it!
[20:48] <Maik> kde neon is a different distro
[20:56] <genii> Neon uses pkcon/packagekit which is a front end to multiple distro backends, in Kubuntu the backend would be apt
 @genii, Pk
 I can't install google chrome stable. It's showing can't install unsigned repo
 Why?
[20:59] <Maik> did you download the deb from the google chrome site?
 @Maik, YEAH
[20:59] <Maik> probably a issue at their end
[20:59] <genii> You probably need to add the PUBKEY if it's spitting that out
 not only that i can't install any other apps
[21:00] <genii> @MacAMoon Maybe you can put the error output into a pastebin and point us at that URL
[21:02] <genii> The deb should have put the proper entry in a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/something.list kind of file and added the key
[21:03] <genii> Their repo is also only 64 bit so that file contents will look like deb [arch=amd64] http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
[21:03] <genii> with amd64 specifically prepended like that
 actually i found that when i try to install apps through after opening with discover the warning poping up. but i installed the apps with Qaptinstaller. it worked now
 then should i install all deb packages with Qaptinstaller?
[21:09] <magic_ninja> MacAMoon, I use the qapt instead of discover for .deb files. I've just found it to be an easier deal. If you like it, you can set it to default in the system settings.
 @magic_ninja, yeah! BTW how to turn on firewall on kubuntu? i can't find the opt
[21:11] <magic_ninja> MacAMoon, I'm not sure about the firewall. ufw is a firewall you can look for command lines for, but if on the new version, I seem to recall there being a new frontend. Check system settings first. If nothing, someone else might know better.
[21:11] <magic_ninja> *look for, for the command line
[21:17] <Maik> @MacAMoon sudo ufw enable
[21:17] <Maik> something you could have found on the web
 (Photo, 640x436) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/284wAehc/file_43003.jpg Can you tell me about this error?
[21:18] <Maik> i don't and i don't use chrome
 okay!
[21:19] <Maik> try to google for the error
 but why the firewall is not available in the sys settings?
[21:20] <Maik> i don't know and don't really care
 and how to remove the games from the menu. i mean how to uninstall them?
[21:24] <Maik> @MacAMoon please try to put some more effort in it yourself and search on the web for answers. Asking for help and giving support is one thing, handholding is another
 @Maik, ok


[20:25] <Scary_Guy> I meant it's not partisan enough for some, sorry brain fart
[20:27] <Scary_Guy> Non profits isn't a service, as many still do make a profit and game the system.  However there are some that actually don't and I believe Wiki to be one of them.
[20:38] <greg-g> Scary_Guy: oh, don't worry, there are plenty of people who think Wikimedia Foundation is a "cancer" and we spend too much money on ourselves (hiring staff). I will confirm that our pay is less than what you'd get at a for profit in engineering.
[20:42] <Scary_Guy> Well there are plenty of people who are idots as well.


[09:03] <mup> Bug #1762344 opened: JS tests random failure with "test caused a page reload" error <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1762344>
[15:40] <mup> Bug #1762461 opened: [2.4] MAAS becomes unresponsive when there's RPC errors <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1762461>
[15:46] <srihas> hi guys, I am new to maas. Is there a way that I can change the default DNS record "maas(default)" to a custom record?
[16:02] <Hey_> is there a way to exclude subnets from the Dashboard?
[16:03] <Hey_> Also.. why do I not see Observed Nodes in the Dashboard?
[16:24] <roaksoax> Hey_: you can disable active discovery from the dashboard, but only if active discovery is enabled
[16:24] <roaksoax> srihas: yes, change the domain name over the api
[16:25] <srihas> roaksoax: "over the api" means? :)
[16:27] <roaksoax> srihas: you can update the domain name over the api
[16:28] <Hey_> roaksoax: But I have 3 subnets.. I only want to disable it for 2 subnets
[16:28] <srihas> roaksoax: as GUI talks over API. it can update as well, right?
[16:31] <roaksoax> Hey_: you can do that under each subnet if active discovery is enabled. passive discover only listens for arp broadcasts
[16:31] <roaksoax> srihas: the GUI doesn't support changing the domain name
[16:31] <roaksoax> srihas: you have to do it via the API (or the CLI, which is just a client to the API)
[16:32] <srihas> roaksoax: aha, I will look for commands, thank you
[16:32] <srihas> one more thing, I cannot delete "fabric-1" , its showing like "Can't delete fabric; the following interfaces are still connected: eth0 (unknown) on <unknown-node>"
[16:33] <srihas> can it be forced from CLI as well?
[16:34] <Hey_> roaksoax: so.. under subnet, I should Enable Managedallocation and disable active mapping?
[16:35] <Hey_> at the moment.. I have them bot disabled for the subnets I don't want to see in Dashboard
[16:35] <Hey_> Managed Allocation, Active Mapping / Disabled
[16:37] <roaksoax> Hey_: you can't disable passive discover per subnet
[16:37] <roaksoax> Hey_: becuase that listens to arps across all the network
[16:37] <roaksoax> Hey_: you can only disable "active" mapping, which either does ping or nmap on your subnet
[16:37] <Hey_> roaksoax: ohh.. understood.
[16:38] <roaksoax> Hey_: so you could enable active mapping in the settings page, but disable it on the subnets you want disabled
[16:38] <roaksoax> Hey_: IIRC, that should not do "passive" mapping
[16:38] <Hey_> roaksoax: under the subnets..I see observed nodes.. but I don't see some of those nodes in the dashboard
[16:39] <roaksoax> Hey_: there's an open bug for that, but those obversed nodes are nodes that dhcpd' from maas
[16:39] <Hey_> I want to image those
[16:50] <Hey_> roaksoax, do I need to create a comissioning script for my custom win10 image?
[16:50] <Hey_> The partition scheme is default
[17:08] <roaksoax> Hey_: windows images are only support if created by canonical
[17:09] <Hey_> roaksoax, I was able to create an image successfully.
[17:09] <Hey_> ohh.. your saying you won't discuss it.
[17:09] <Hey_> understood.
[21:27] <mup> Bug #1762555 opened: ipmi-config connection timeout <ipmi> <maas> <maas (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1762555>
[21:33] <mup> Bug #1762555 changed: ipmi-config connection timeout <ipmi> <maas> <maas (Ubuntu):Incomplete> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1762555>
[21:35] <wdennis> Two MAAS 2.3 questions:
[21:36] <wdennis> 1) Once deployed, can the machines be disassociated from MAAS? (i.e., not try to cloud-init contact the MAAS server)
[21:39] <mup> Bug #1762555 opened: ipmi-config connection timeout <ipmi> <maas> <maas (Ubuntu):Incomplete> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1762555>
[21:40] <roaksoax> wdennis: sure, you should be able to uninstall cloud-init from the deployed machine
[21:41] <roaksoax> wdennis: a deployed system, AFAIK,is not re-running anything in cloud-init on boot
[21:50] <wdennis> 2) there's just no way of spec-ing a different root disk partition?
[21:52] <wdennis> roaksoax: It seems that cloud-init drops a .cfg file into /etc/network/interfaces.d that will have the wrong IP for my target deploy network... Have to re-write/erase it
[21:55] <roaksoax> wdennis: for ubuntu there is
[21:55] <roaksoax> wdennis: ? cloud-nit should be writing correct networking based on what maas is configured
[21:57] <wdennis> It does write correct Ip for the network I do OS installs on, which is not the same as the target deployment network, which is elsewhere
[21:58] <wdennis> Maybe MAAS is not the correct tool to do deploys for machines that will not stay connected to MAAS?
[22:00] <wdennis> Also, it seems that the machine does run cloud-init each time it boots, but now where it's deployed, all the messages say "handlers.py[WARNING]: failed posting event: {...etc...}"
[22:06] <roaksoax> wdennis: cloud-init, in maas or everwhere else, will run on first boot
[22:07] <roaksoax> wdennis: that said cloud-init is configured to report back to maas messages
[22:07] <roaksoax> wdennis: that's what you see there
[22:07] <roaksoax> wdennis: after a mcahine is 'deployed'
[22:07] <roaksoax> you can uninstall cloud-init
[22:07] <roaksoax> wdennis: as far as the networking, i'm not quite sure what you mean nor have enough context of what you are doing
[22:30] <wdennis> roaksoax: I'm deploying machines' OS on a lab network, then will post-configure them with Ansible on that same network, and then disconnecting them from that network, and deploying them on the target network which has no access to the lab (MAAS) network
[22:31] <wdennis> I also now see that it configures Ubuntu to get updates from the (now-inaccessible) MAAS server
[22:33] <wdennis> So, it seems like there's almost a requirement (perhaps assumption) that the delpoyed machine will stay in contact with the MAAS rack server
[22:35] <roaksoax> wdennis: ok, so you disconnect the machine from the maas network and then you basically reconfigure networking ?
[22:36] <wdennis> yes
[22:36] <roaksoax> wdennis: ok, and is this with centos
[22:36] <roaksoax> ?
[22:36] <wdennis> No, Ubuntu
[22:36] <roaksoax> wdennis: ok, and if you reconfigure the network, and you reboot the machine, it gets reconfigured back to how it ws deployed by MAAS and your changes are lost ?
[22:37] <roaksoax> wdennis: on the updates part. MAAS configures an APT proxy. You *can* disbale the use of the proxy or you can change the proxy to a different one
[22:38] <wdennis> No, I was not expecting (due to MAAS n00b status) that MAAS was dropping an interface config via cloud-init (which I'm also a n00b on) into /etc/network/interfaces.d, and also trying to post back cloud-init results to MAAS
[22:39] <wdennis> So I have to re-write networking config (differently from what I was doing) and also 'apt-get purge cloud-*' to remove all the cloud-init stuff
[22:40] <wdennis> SO I think I get what needs to be done there
[22:41] <wdennis> Also need to remove the apt proxy
[22:41] <wdennis> Now I'm wondering what else?
[22:42] <wdennis> I'm just wondering if I'm fighting against the design of MAAS (i.e. if MAAS assumes continued connectivity/mgmt of the nodes it's deployed)
[22:43] <wdennis> Was previously using Cobbler to deploy nodes, but it's not really that Ubuntu-friendly, and development seems to be on life support...
[22:44] <wdennis> Cobblem didn't seem to assume ongoing connecitivity/mgmt of the nodes it deployed, though
[22:44] <roaksoax> well, MAAS is a cloud-like system that has a metadata server
[22:44] <roaksoax> so maas works very similarly to how instances in the cloud work via cloud-init
[22:45] <roaksoax> wdennis: that said, it has sane defaults, like the proxy case (you can disable it in the Settings page)
[22:46] <wdennis> Yup, I see... Cloud instances have an external controller by needs
[22:46] <roaksoax> wdennis: right, the one thing, however, is that once the machine is deployed (after it boots for the first time onto the installed os)
[22:46] <roaksoax> cloud-init just basically does nothing with MAAS
[22:47] <wdennis> OK, except try to report back status, right?
[22:48] <roaksoax> wdennis: yeah, but on if it failes to report status back, after it deployed, it doens't really matter since cloud-init wont really fial if it cannot report status back
[22:49] <roaksoax> wdennis: you can see those messages in the machine event log (e.g. Machine details page > 'Events' tab
[23:17] <mup> Bug #1762575 opened: bmc-config fails to set maas user password on Cisco IMC during commission on MAAS 1.9.5 <canonical-bootstack> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1762575>
[23:53] <mup> Bug #1762579 opened: HA region controllers offer different NTP servers <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1762579>