[01:02] <mihael> How do I install oracle java 8 on an Ubuntu 20 server?
[01:02] <mihael> Are there any other ppas aside from ppa:linuxuprising/java?
[01:37] <bumblefuzz> Hi, I'm trying to turn off RST on my new inspiron 3501
[01:37] <bumblefuzz> but I'm having trouble finding it in the BIOS settings
[01:37] <bumblefuzz> does anyone have a Dell who knows where this is and what it looks like in the BIOS?
[01:40] <blahboybaz> I'm getting "PCIe Bus error: severity=Uncorrected (Non-Fatal), type-Transaction Layer, (Receiver 10) device [8086:abdc] error status/mask 00200000/00000000 [21] ACSViol" after closing the lid on my laptop. Not all the time but it has happened a couple times. Is there any way to tell what is causing it?
[01:41] <blahboybaz> I did some google search and it looks like people are talking about nvidia (which I have). But I'm not sure they are having the precisely identical error message - very close but different numbers maybe.
[02:18] <nshire> did ubuntu remove the torrent option to download 20.04?
[02:19] <boy-sudo> I'm not sure ... But there is no ubuntu torrent on the main page as far as my knowledge
[02:20] <nshire> had to look under alternative downloads, there doesn't seem to be an easyily-clickable direct path to it anymore
[03:42] <STMelon> ytergFd'
[03:42] <STMelon> ]sGX"fgHFj
[03:42] <STMelon> sorry
[03:49] <bumblefuzz> so, I just installed ubuntu on a brand new laptop
[03:50] <bumblefuzz> I enabled UFW and rebooted
[03:50] <bumblefuzz> I portscanned the brand new machine and found port 22 open with protocol 'dropbear'
[03:51] <bumblefuzz> when I type 'fuser 22/tcp' nothing shows up
[03:51] <bumblefuzz> netstat -ltnp | grep -w ':22' does nothing either
[03:51] <bumblefuzz> nor does lsof -i :22
[03:52] <bumblefuzz> additionally, dropbear isn't installed, as far as I can tell
[03:52] <bumblefuzz> any ideas?
[03:53] <bumblefuzz> I verified the ISO before installing, as well
[03:55] <matsaman> bumblefuzz: 22 is for ssh
[03:55] <matsaman> dropbear is an ssh implementation
[03:55] <matsaman> as far as I know that's all normal except for it being called dropbear and not ssh
[03:56] <matsaman> maybe Ubuntu's default ssh is dropbear? No idea
[03:56] <matsaman> doubt it, probably openssh like everybody else
[03:56] <matsaman> probably whatever you portscanned with is biased and trying to get people to use dropbear instead of ssh =P
[05:10] <eaxxae> anyone have any idea why a mobile device would have wrong Mac address listed on router than in the iOS about ?
[05:10] <matsaman> it could be faking its id
[05:11] <eaxxae> It’s not a private Mac, it’s just wrong/mismatch... it’s an xfinity router
[05:11] <matsaman> it says 'mac address'?
[05:14] <eaxxae> Wi-fi address
[05:15] <eaxxae> General -About -WiFi address
[05:16] <matsaman> eaxxae: and in your router admin what's it call it?
[05:16] <eaxxae> MAC address
[05:17] <matsaman> eaxxae: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT211227
[05:18] <eaxxae> Thx matsaman
[05:18] <matsaman> so yes, your phone is faking it
[05:18] <matsaman> that is, manipulating it
[05:18] <matsaman> tldr: macids are not fixed
[05:19] <eaxxae> Even if I have it disabled ?
[05:21] <matsaman> dunno, try it
[07:12] <narakrish> Hello all, I'm trying to print on an Ubuntu system. When the paper roll has ended, the jobs from the printer queue is automatically getting removed. Is this because of default cups configuration ? Any  help is highly appreciated.
[07:12] <narakrish> S
[07:12] <narakrish> silv3r_m00n1 12:41:54
[07:12] <narakrish> hi there
[07:12] <narakrish> Hello all, I'm trying to print on an Ubuntu system. When the paper roll has ended, the jobs from the printer queue is automatically getting removed. Is this because of default cups configuration ? Any  help is highly appreciated.
[07:17] <masber> hi, for some reason copy/paste shortcut keyboards does not work on firefox, any idea why?
[07:17] <masber> Im using ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS (Focal Fossa)
[07:18] <masber> and firefox 87.0 (64-bit)
[07:31] <TheBigK02> masber: do u use x11 or wayland session
[07:32] <TheBigK02> in other applications copy paste works as expected, right?
[07:33] <masber> im using x11
[07:33] <masber> yes other applications copy/paste works as expected
[07:36] <TheBigK02> masber: i googled around and check if in about:config the dom.event.clipboardevents.enabled is true
[07:37] <TheBigK02> masber: is the problem also persistent in save browsing mode?
[07:37] <masber> dom.event.clipboardevents.enabled is false
[07:38] <TheBigK02> masber: change it and try again
[07:38] <TheBigK02> masber: ony my ff its true...
[07:38] <masber> yeah, now it works
[07:38] <TheBigK02> masber: thumbsup :)
[07:38] <masber> thanks!
[07:39] <TheBigK02> masber: welcome
[07:39] <tega> hi
[07:39] <tega> does anybody use psybncd?
[07:39] <tega> *psybnc
[07:39] <TheBigK02> tega: i used to use it ... AGES ago...
[07:39] <TheBigK02> does it get updates still?
[07:39] <tega> i don't understand why it adds a new user upon first connection, no matter if you compiled it as single user mode
[07:39] <tega> it got one this year after many without
[07:41] <TheBigK02> thats crazy. last time i used a bnc it was znc... dont know if thats an alternative for u ? but since this is not an ubuntu package, cant give u much of a support
[07:41] <TheBigK02> may be theres a support channel out there for that tool?
[07:41] <tega> there isn't, unfortunately
[07:42] <TheBigK02> tega: whats the issue with adding a new user. u dont want a user beeing able to add a second user? or whats the issue there
[08:00] <tega> TheBigK02 i compiled the psybnc selecting single user, because i'm the only user and in any case i want it to be so
[08:00] <tega> when i first connect to it, what it does first is adding a new user!
[08:00] <tega> basically the opposite of the way i compiled it.
[08:02] <tega> this way, it creates values i don't want. It doesn't even use the vhost i set in the config
[08:03] <XATRIX> Hi, can you advice ? I've made changes to my ~/.bashrc , i mean PS1=.... but after i do 'sudo -s' my root console doesn't cange prompt
[08:04] <XATRIX> any idea what can load before/after .bashrc ?
[08:04] <rory> XATRIX, https://shreevatsa.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/bashstartupfiles1.png
[08:05] <rory> XATRIX, basically, .bashrc loads last
[08:15] <XATRIX> rory: thanks
[08:52] <narakrish> Hello all, can someone please help me how to ideintify if the printer is out of paper using CUPS ? When I'm trying to print, when the paper roll is empty, the job in the printer queue is automatically removed.
[09:02] <codingCookie> Hello in here, I'm trying to use "boot-repair" to then install Windows 10 along with Ubuntu. Unfortunately using the tool returns:
[09:02] <codingCookie> Locked-NVram detected. I don't know how to solve the issue. Any ideas?
[09:04] <EriC^^> codingCookie: sounds like the bios is read only
[09:05] <codingCookie> I can change this in the BIOS, correct?
[09:05] <EriC^^> codingCookie: maybe you can set something in the bios to remove it, or maybe set bios admin password and get more options, or update the bios, you could always trick it by switching the efi files of windows and ubuntu to load ubuntu
[09:05] <codingCookie> Thanks a lot EriC^^ I will try that out!
[09:05] <EriC^^> no problem
[10:49] <diskin> narakrish, this behavior looks strange to me...
[11:44] <metbsd> how do i change from kubuntu to ubuntu?
[11:44] <metbsd> xfce to gnome
[11:50] <guiverc> metbsd, if you have other desktops installed; logout & select the wanted desktop & login...
[11:51] <Maik> metbsd: besides that, Kubuntu is not using Xfce but KDE Plasma
[11:56] <codingCookie> Hey, Currently I have Ubuntu installed. I want to have Windows 10 along. I prepared a USB Stick with Windows10 files, but when I boot from the USB it just shows my a blinking line. Anyone knows where the problem is? Maybe I have the wrong bootloader installed?
[11:57] <Maik> codingCookie: how did you flash the usb stick with windows?
[11:58] <codingCookie> I format the USB Stick to an NTFS File System and then mounted the win.iso and copy paste the files to the formated USB drive
[11:58] <Maik> that's not how it works
[11:59] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:59] <Maik> the only option on a linux system to create a bootable usb stick with windows is with WOEUSB
[12:00] <EriC^> codingCookie: how did you prepare the usb? fat32 + put the files there?
[12:00] <codingCookie> EriC^ yes
[12:00] <codingCookie> NTFS*
[12:00] <codingCookie> Maik Thanks for the tip. I will try that
[12:00] <Maik> yw
[12:00] <EriC^> codingCookie: it needs to be fat32 for uefi to boot the efi file
[12:23] <metbsd> sorry i meant xbuntu to ubuntu
[12:24] <metbsd> how do i change that booting logo from xubuntu to ubuntu
[12:42] <Maik> metbsd: by changing the plymouth theme
[12:43] <Maik> delete the xubuntu one and install the ubuntu one if it isn't installed already
[12:43] <Maik> if both are already installed and you had Ubuntu first then look here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1227122/xubuntu-on-boot-screen-how-do-i-get-the-ubuntu-logo-back
[12:47] <Maik> metbsd: also try to put some more effort in things yourself, first search then ask. For the most (simple) questions you aksed the last few times there are answers to be found on the web for sure. ;)
[12:56] <zen_coder> how can I install h265 decoder in ubtunu 18.04?
[12:57] <goddard> hey i have some recommendation
[12:57] <goddard> on the welcome screen
[12:57] <goddard> when launching the App store don't make it a sub-process to the welcome page
[12:58] <goddard> because if you close that screen by clicking "Done" it closes the app store
[12:58] <goddard> so probably a bug
[13:00] <goddard> also the error messages in the app store are too unfriendly
[13:00] <goddard> should have a simple error message and then
[13:00] <goddard> more details if the user wants to debug
[13:01] <goddard> like if a snap is doing something dont say error /shjskdg/sfewolge: to many attempt blah blah
[13:01] <goddard> that is super unfriendly and incoherent
[13:01] <goddard> should say "Snap is currently busy" try again in a moment
[13:01] <goddard> or even better just have a Queue system and handle it properly
[13:03] <goddard> also whats the point of having updates in the installer if I have updates after I am done installing?
[13:03] <goddard> just remove the check box or do it the right way
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> goddard: this is not really the channel for reccomends
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> goddard: if you have a wishlist or an idea, please use ubuntu-bug packagename
[13:04] <goddard> these are things that make linux seem so buggy
[13:05] <lotuspsychje> goddard: see also the https://bugs.launchpad.net/snap-store-desktop existing bugs
[13:06] <lotuspsychje> goddard: if you want to discuss wishlists, come to #ubuntu-discuss
[13:30] <toffe> Hiya, anyone good with the cloud-config? I have a user-data file to auto install ubuntu. It works perfectly but it has one "Downloading and installing security updates" which happens before the late-commands are run. It takes ages, I was hoping it was possible to skip that since when it is installed our script does a full upgrade anyway. This way we can quickly get the images on the devices and deploy them.
[13:31] <toffe> https://i.imgur.com/F8wsLuu.png - I tried "repo_upgrade: no" but for no avail.
[13:33] <CustosLimen> how do I get apt to keep downloaded packages?
[13:44] <MadLamb> can anyone help me to understand why my notebook is not being charged by a LG usb-c screen (34uc99)?
[13:47] <larkfisherman> Hi, people.  I need some information about the package "ubuntu-drivers-common" on Ubuntu 18.04 Desktop... When installed, it kinda wrecks the whole kernel, a lot of modules just disappear - including ethernet and wireless. Can anyone give me some info about what exactly is "ubuntu-drivers-common" and what does it do, so I can know if it's safe to
[13:47] <larkfisherman> remove from the script?
[13:53] <remline> CustosLimen: Take a look at apt-mark
[13:53] <CustosLimen> will check
[13:55] <CustosLimen> not sure how that helps though, I want to do apt install socat, and then have socat-....deb stay on disk, does not seem like apt-mark can help me there
[13:56] <remline> CustosLimen: What is removing socat from disk?
[13:56] <CustosLimen> I guess apt, it installs it and then when it is installed the .deb file is removed
[13:57] <larkfisherman> CustosLimen: I joined after you posted your original question - but if you need the .deb file, can't you just do `apt-get download`?
[14:02] <YeOldHinnerk> Hi. I may have stumbled upon a known bug - or it has an entirely different course, which I need help in idenfitiying: I run an Ubuntu server (20.04). When I was trying to do a normal 'sudo apt-get update', the server could not be resolved. So I did a few checks and found that /etc/resolv.conf contains an entry (written there by network manager, as
[14:02] <YeOldHinnerk> per comment in the file) which is <IP_ADDRESS> - but not my real DNS which would <IP_ADDRESS>. The correct DNS has no issues in resolving the server names, I verified that. I follow a few hints on stackexchange but could not get i resolved yet. What should I try next?
[14:03] <YeOldHinnerk> I found a bug entry about this behavior, supposedly a systemd bug. But there has to be some way around it...
[14:05] <CustosLimen> larkfisherman: I could, but I want apt get install to not delete the cache after installing
[14:06] <larkfisherman> YeOldHinnerk: afaik <IP_ADDRESS> is served by systemd-resolved. Is systemd-resolved running?
[14:06] <YeOldHinnerk> Yes.
[14:07] <YeOldHinnerk> Should it not be?
[14:08] <larkfisherman> YeOldHinnerk: It should, afaik.
[14:09] <YeOldHinnerk> I would suppose so too. But why does it not show my normal DNS? Oddly, when I login per web interface and use the gui, the ethernet connections properties show the right DNS. But as I said apt-get can not resolve.
[14:10] <YeOldHinnerk> and my best guess is this weird entry in resolv.conf.
[14:10] <YeOldHinnerk> because that's what nslookup is using.
[14:10] <larkfisherman> CustosLimen: The only thing I can think of is if somehow caching is disabled in config. What is the content of "/etc/apt/apt.conf.d"?
[14:13] <CustosLimen> larkfisherman: https://bpa.st/3ROQ
[14:14] <CustosLimen> I added Binary::apt::APT::Keep-Downloaded-Packages "true"; and APT::Keep-Downloaded-Packages "true"; but it has no effect
[14:14] <CustosLimen> while downloading the deb files are there but as soon as install finishes the deb files are removed
[14:15] <CustosLimen> well it is already gone when install returns
[14:15] <CustosLimen> ah wait
[14:15] <CustosLimen> I see it
[14:15] <CustosLimen> thanks :)
[14:17] <YeOldHinnerk> Let me rephrase: resolv.conf cotains <IP_ADDRESS>. Then why to the ethernet conenctions know about <IP_ADDRESS>? And why doesn't apt-get use the proper one?
[14:17] <larkfisherman> CustosLimen: `Dir::Cache "var/cache/apt";`? :D
[14:18] <larkfisherman> CustosLimen: Or was it something else...? Anyways, I'm glad you found it :)
[14:18] <CustosLimen> larkfisherman: it was this file  /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/docker-clean
[14:18] <CustosLimen> doing rm stuff inside var/cache/apt
[14:27] <larkfisherman> YeOldHinnerk: Did I undestand this right - nslookup properly resolves the apt repository domains, but apt-get doesn't?
[14:38] <GromyGlou> hi there !
[14:39] <GromyGlou> i have some webcam issues and i need some help please ^^'
[14:40] <YeOldHinnerk> larkfisherman No, neither does.
[14:42] <remline> CustosLimen: good find!
[14:43] <chmking> Is there a way to see when a Gnome version will update a patch version?
[14:45] <GromyGlou> someone gifted me a logitech C930c, but it's not recognized by ubuntu or windows... i tried everything logitech told me to, nothing work, i've tried to direct link the device with the driver, but not functionning either... (sorry for my english, i'm french)
[14:54] <leftyfb> GromyGlou: if it's not working in Windows or Ubuntu, maybe there is a reason it was given to you for free
[14:55] <GromyGlou> it was a gift for my birthday, apparently ordered via a website
[14:56] <GromyGlou> after some research, i found that the Logitech C930c is for the asian area, but apparently, it work for some peoples, but not for me
[15:01] <GromyGlou> if needed, i can give the lsusb -v result for the device
[15:13] <bumblefuzz> so, I just got a new laptop with this wireless card in it
[15:13] <bumblefuzz> but I can't connect faster than 150 Mbps on wifi, even standing right next to the AP
[15:13] <bumblefuzz> how can I see why my wifi card is so slow on ubuntu
[15:13] <bumblefuzz> ?
[15:15] <lordcirth> bumblefuzz, run "lspci | grep -i wireless" to get your wifi card model
[15:16] <bumblefuzz> Intel Corporation Killer Wi-Fi 6 AX1650i 160MHz Wireless Network Adapter (201NGW) (rev 30)
[15:16] <bumblefuzz> it's brand new so it should be faster than 150 Mbps
[15:18] <lordcirth> bumblefuzz, what is your Ubuntu version and kernel version?
[15:18] <lordcirth> (uname -r for kernel version)
[15:18] <bumblefuzz> I installed it last night
[15:19] <bumblefuzz> 5.6.0-1054-oem
[15:19] <lordcirth> bumblefuzz, so what Ubuntu version? cat /etc/lsb-release
[15:20] <bumblefuzz> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
[15:20] <bumblefuzz> DISTRIB_RELEASE=20.04
[15:20] <bumblefuzz> DISTRIB_CODENAME=focal
[15:20] <bumblefuzz> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS"
[15:22] <Ravage> if "ubuntu-drivers list-oem" does not show anything you could try to upgrade to the HWE stack
[15:22] <bumblefuzz> oem-somerville-beric-icl-meta
[15:22] <bumblefuzz> oem-somerville-meta
[15:22] <lordcirth> I'm not really familiar with the OEM kernels, but yeah, kernel update is your best bet for fixing hardware support
[15:23] <Ravage> i would not try to upgrade then
[15:23] <bumblefuzz> ?
[15:23] <Ravage> you will lose those extra functionality provided by your OEM
[15:23] <bumblefuzz> kernel update is best bet.... try not to upgrade...
[15:23] <bumblefuzz> I don't understand
[15:24] <Ravage> may decrease performance or you can lose functionality of some hardware
[15:24] <bumblefuzz> so, then do I call dell?
[15:24] <Ravage> i dont think dell will give you support for that
[15:25] <bumblefuzz> but they are the OEM
[15:25] <bumblefuzz> right?
[15:25] <lordcirth> bumblefuzz, I thought you said you installed it yourself yesterday. Or did Dell install the OS?
[15:25] <Ravage> for the components you bought from them.. yes
[15:25] <bumblefuzz> I installed the OS
[15:26] <Ravage> you can find out what these drivers are and if you need them. i have to experience with the oem kernel
[15:26] <Ravage> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack#Desktop
[15:26] <GromyGlou> i guess nobody can help me with my webcam issue ?
[15:27] <Ravage> GromyGlou, if it does not work on any system it may be a hardware problem?
[15:27] <jayjo> does anyone know of an easy way to experiment with broken packages without messing up my system? Is there a quick way to setup a chroot for something like that? I'm trying to install something that requires some python2 packages, and I'm nervous to screw up the system https://dw1zws.com/how-to-install-chirp-on-ubuntu-20-04/
[15:27] <GromyGlou> Ravage: how can i be sure of this ?
[15:28] <Ravage> jayjo, i use lxd for that
[15:28] <ioria> GromyGlou, windows should detect and download automatically the correct driver, if i'am not mistaken
[15:28] <Ravage> also every logitec webcam i tried so far just worked out of the box on ubuntu
[15:28] <Ravage> so a hardware problem is likely
[15:29] <Ravage> you can try "lsusb" and check if it shows up
[15:29] <chmking> Is there some way to see when Ubuntu will update to a patched version of GNOME 3.38.4?
[15:29] <GromyGlou> already tried
[15:30] <Ravage> GromyGlou, if it does not even detect the device it is broken
[15:30] <GromyGlou> Ravage: i've been looking on the net for 3 month now, no one have this issue. i can give you the lsusb -v for the device if you want
[15:30] <Maik> GromyGlou: you said it yourself: "someone gifted me a logitech C930c, but it's not recognized by ubuntu or windows..." So a hardware issue could be possible
[15:31] <ioria> GromyGlou, unplug it, replug and run 'dmesg | tail  | nc termbin.com 9999'
[15:31] <Maik> ioria: they left
[15:31] <ioria> oh
[15:31] <bumblefuzz> so, what exactly is wrong with my system?
[15:32] <bumblefuzz> I still don't understand what the problem is
[15:32] <bumblefuzz> or what to do
[15:32] <Maik> too new hardware maybe bumblefuzz
[15:32] <ioria> GromyGlou, unplug it, replug and run 'dmesg | tail  | nc termbin.com 9999'
[15:32] <GromyGlou> okay
[15:32] <bumblefuzz> @Maik if it's THAT new... why does it work at all?
[15:33] <tehuty> I use ubuntu mate installed with autologin, after installation it booted once, i did all upgrades that where suggested and after reboot I only get a black screen at the point where it should login
[15:34] <GromyGlou> ioria: done, how can i give you the result ?
[15:34] <ioria> GromyGlou, paste the url you got here
[15:34] <GromyGlou> https://termbin.com/atdr
[15:36] <ioria> GromyGlou, not enought :   'dmesg | tail  -20 | nc termbin.com 9999'
[15:36] <GromyGlou> okay
[15:37] <GromyGlou> ioria: https://termbin.com/o9bg
[15:39] <ioria> GromyGlou, what's your kernel ?   'uname -r'
[15:40] <GromyGlou> 4.15.0-140-generic
[15:40] <Maik> GromyGlou: which ubuntu release are you on?
[15:41] <ioria> bionic, probably
[15:41] <GromyGlou> how can i know that ?
[15:41] <ioria> GromyGlou,  cat /etc/issue
[15:41] <GromyGlou> ty i look
[15:41] <Maik> guess so, that kernel is old
[15:41] <ioria> yep, 142 actually
[15:42] <ioria> or you can try the hwe
[15:42] <GromyGlou> Ubuntu 18.04.5 LTS \n \l
[15:42] <ioria> GromyGlou,  sudo apt update
[15:42] <GromyGlou> i try ^^
[15:43] <Maik> do or do not, there is no try :)
[15:43] <GromyGlou> GPG error :o
[15:44] <GromyGlou> maybe i should reinstall ubuntu ?
[15:44] <Ravage> if you have a backup of your data you can do that
[15:44] <Maik> go with 20.04 then if you decide to do so
[15:44] <Ravage> i suggest at least 20.04 LTS
[15:44] <GromyGlou> i will ^^
[15:45] <GromyGlou> ty all, i keep you in touch ^^
[15:45] <ioria> GromyGlou,    you can paste the output , if you want
[15:45] <ioria> ok
[15:45] <Maik> ok, good luck GromyGlou
[15:45] <GromyGlou> ty again for your time ^^
[15:45] <Maik> yw
[15:52] <chmking> So no one knows how/when gnome patches are scheduled for updates?
[15:53] <Maik> chmking: probably not, otherwise someone would have answered you already
[15:53] <chmking> bummer, thanks anyhow
[15:55] <jonecir> I'm getting the following message: "A network change was detected.". I have Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS. Is there any config file I should looking into?
[15:56] <Ravage> change is not always bad. whats the issue?
[15:57] <jonecir> Well, most of the time I navigate to a new page I've got this message
[15:58] <Ravage> i guess you see that message in chrome or your browser then
[15:58] <jonecir> Yes, any browser. For instance, while typing here, I was just disconnected
[15:58] <Ravage> it means that the IP/gateway you connect to the internet changed
[15:59] <Ravage> most common would be a VPN (re)connecting
[15:59] <jonecir> Where can I configure this?
[16:04] <Ravage> make sure you are only connection via ethernet or wifi. not both. remove/disable all unused network connections in ubuntu
[16:04] <Ravage> disable any VPNs
[16:05] <jonecir> Ravage: I only have only one connection configured. No wifi. This error started a couple days ago.
[16:07] <ioria> jonecir, disable temporary ipv6
[16:08] <jonecir> ioria, ipv6 is disabled. IPv4 is set as "Automatic (DHCP)
[16:09] <ioria> jonecir, cat /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/disable_ipv6
[16:11] <jonecir> ioria: returned 0
[16:11] <ioria> is active
[16:12] <ioria> jonecir, https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-disable-ipv6-address-on-ubuntu-20-04-lts-focal-fossa
[16:12] <jonecir> well, if I look at the GUI, I have Disabled set
[16:17] <jonecir> ioria: currently I have the following:
[16:17] <jonecir> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[16:17] <jonecir> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""
[16:17] <ioria> jonecir, i said 'temporarily'... please, read the firt part
[16:24] <jonecir> ioria: if I try to open this page: azimuthcc.com I'm getting the following error:
[16:24] <jonecir> Your connection was interrupted
[16:24] <jonecir> A network change was detected.
[16:24] <jonecir> ERR_NETWORK_CHANGED
[16:25] <jonecir> ioria: I have temporarily disabled ipv6
[16:27] <jonecir> oria: and while browing other pages, I see "A network change was detected."
[16:45] <fishbait> hello chat! im trying to use a linksys e6300 as a wifi ap ive gotten it into bridge mode and i can see the leases but i cant get internet on my wireless devices would someone be so kind as  to help me figure this out?
[16:45] <Ravage> does not really sound like a Ubuntu problem to me?
[16:46] <fishbait> the main router it sharing from is an ubuntu desktop.
[16:49] <kur1j> on my client ill do `sudo mount -o async <server> /mnt/data` it will mount properly but when I run `mount` and look at the mount point of /mnt/data it doesn't show async, if I reverse that and do `sync` it will show sync.
[16:50] <kur1j> any reason why?
[16:50] <kur1j> or is it automatically async?
[16:53] <jonecir> ioria: I guess I found the problem: typing ifconfig I could see my ip address eding on 5. Opening my /etc/openvpn/server/server.conf I could see "local <IP_ADDRESS>".
[17:01] <fishbait> \leave
[18:46] <mra90> i have started http server on my ubuntu machine and I can access it via ip:port but I can't from anotehr machine in that network
[18:47] <mra90> what may cause that?
[18:47] <matsaman> mra90: which server?
[18:47] <sarnold> mra90: first, check ss -ltp output to make sure that it is listening to the correct address
[18:48] <mra90> http server
[18:48] <matsaman> apache httpd?
[18:48] <mra90> no, own http server in C
[18:48] <mra90> but as I said it works on that machine
[18:48] <mra90> on that server machine
[18:49] <mra90> sarnold, ss -ltp shows that socket
[18:49] <matsaman> what IP is it working on for that machine?
[18:49] <mra90> localhost and ip http://192.168....
[18:50] <sarnold> 'localhost' isn't an ip
[18:50] <matsaman> these two separate machines are wired into the same switch?
[18:52] <mra90> matsaman, over wifi
[18:53] <mra90> so wired is not exactly that but yes, same locl network
[18:54] <mra90> I try to connect to that machine using IPs taken from ifconfig
[19:02] <matsaman> mra90: so they're both connected to the same wireless router?
[19:02] <mra90> matsaman, correct
[19:03] <matsaman> does the IP:port (not 'localhost') work with a different server?
[19:04] <matsaman> python -m http.server ?
[19:08] <mra90> the ip:port doesn;t
[19:08] <mra90> let me check python
[19:09] <mra90> matsaman, same
[19:13] <mra90> I have verified on the third device and this is the same
[19:13] <mra90> so I can only connect to that server on the host machine
[19:14] <mra90> hmmm
[19:14] <sarnold> maybe pastebin your program, your ss -tlp output, iptables -L output from both machines?
[19:15] <mra90> yes just a moment
[19:17] <mra90> sarnold, https://termbin.com/ic1s
[19:17] <mra90> https://termbin.com/96hq
[19:18] <matsaman> mra90: so both machines are on a 192.168 IP?
[19:19] <mra90> not sure if i get your question
[19:19] <mra90> they got ip addresses from the router ight?
[19:28] <gordonjcp> evening
[19:28] <gordonjcp> is there a way to completely blacklist SSIDs in the network picker in Ubuntu?
[19:28] <mra90> ok it works on two other devices
[19:28] <gordonjcp> for the avoidance of the XY problem, it's to stop my laptop always joining the wrong network on boot
[19:29] <mra90> only not on the one behind a VPN
[19:29] <mra90> why is VPS blocking it?
[19:34] <[VMGuy23]> in Graphics (in Settings -> About) it used to say "AMD Raven2" but now it says "llvmpipe (LLVM 11.0.0, 256 bits)" aftr installing then removing an incompatible driver. I can't configure display settings at all and my second monitor is not displaying. Help
[19:35] <matsaman> mra90: it's just configured that way
[19:35] <matsaman> mra90: why're you using a VPN if you want it to work as it ordinarily would on the same network
[19:36] <mra90> matsaman, yeah I think it make sense
[19:36] <mra90> well I sometimes need to connect to VPN in order to do some other work
[19:36] <mra90> which requires VPN connection, so I stayed ON it
[19:38] <matsaman> ah
[19:38] <matsaman> you probably need only be more judicious about turning that off and on
[19:38] <matsaman> you could configure around it, too, though; extra work
[19:39] <mra90> yeah I think I would ask my IT department - if that is allowed
[20:09] <hansh> i want to install 20.04's lm-sensors on 18.04, how should i do that?
[20:09] <hansh> (well doesn't have to be 20.04's, but at least a newer version)
[20:12] <sarnold> hansh: two options, you could try to install the binaries directly from a newer version, follow links on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lm-sensors until you find the packages for the version and architecture you want
[20:12] <sarnold> hansh: but they may refuse to install, in which case backporting them would probably work
[20:13] <sarnold> hansh: if you ahve to do that backport, check out backportpackage from the ubuntu-dev-tools package
[20:14] <hansh> thanks
[20:39] <kri_> Hi, I have problems with dualboot. I installed 20.10 after a Windows10 Installation on a fresh SSD. On startup I get "System BootOrder not found" and ubuntu starts
[20:39] <kri_> both installation were done in EFI mode
[20:41] <kri_> the notebook ist quite old, the only bios setting regarding efi is "legacy or both"....no secure/fast boot or something similar
[20:41] <jeremy31> kri_: any windows entry in > efibootmgr
[20:42] <kri_>  efibootmgr  |grep -i win
[20:42] <kri_> Boot000A* Windows Boot Manager
[20:44] <jeremy31> No Grub menu at boot, just right into Ubuntu, post URL from terminal for>  sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:44] <kri_> in BIOS BootOrder there is only one new entry "ubuntu" that is set to first automaticaly
[20:44] <kri_> exactly no grub...the error "system bootOrder is not found" is shown for about 5seconds and than ubuntu starts
[20:45] <kri_> https://termbin.com/6j2r
[20:47] <jeremy31> It shows GPT with an EFI System partition that appears was installed by Windows as it is 105MB, if it was done by Ubuntu it would be about 500 MB
[20:48] <jeremy31> kri_: see if a windows entry is shown with>  sudo update-grub
[20:48] <kri_> I did not create an EFI partition in Ubuntu install dialog, just selected "manual" and used the free space for / and formated it
[20:49] <kri_> Windows Boot Manager auf<EMAIL_ADDRESS>gefunden
[20:49] <kri_> erledigt
[20:49] <kri_> found :)
[20:50] <jeremy31> kri_: Hopefully that will make Grub menu appear at boot so you can select to boot Windows there
[20:50] <kri_> I tried this allready, does not help
[20:50] <kri_> same sh....ubuntu starts :)
[20:51] <jeremy31> kri_: post URL for> cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:51] <kri_> is this error written by ubuntu/windows or the bios?
[20:52] <kri_> https://termbin.com/ehas
[20:52] <IanLiu> If I run `mount -t cifs -o user=user,pass=pass //myserver/dir /mnt' it works. But if I put the line `//myserver/dir /mnt user=user,pass=pass 0 0` in /etc/fstab I get cifs_mount failed w/return code = -13. Why is that?
[20:53] <jeremy31> kri_: in terminal> gedit admin:///etc/default/grub
[20:54] <jeremy31> change GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=hidden to GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=menu  #then save and exit and do another sudo update-grub and reboot
[20:54] <sarnold> IanLiu: I think I've heard that 'funny' characters in the username or password can be misparsed out of the fstab version; try sticking to 'safe' characters like digits and alphabetical chars
[20:55] <kri_> jeremy31: same :(
[20:56] <jeremy31> kri_: you rebooted already?
[20:56] <kri_> yes sure
[20:58] <jeremy31> kri_: If that computer is from about 2012 or earlier, you might have to switch to Legacy only and reinstall Windows and Ubuntu
[20:59] <kri_> jeremy31: it is from 2011 and I thought about that too. But 20.10 is not supported in legacy I think
[21:00] <jeremy31> kri_: 20.10 should support both yet
[21:01] <kri_> jeremy31: great to hear....I will try this
[21:01] <kri_> Thanks for your time :)
[21:01] <jeremy31> kri_: don't have too much fun
[21:20] <sabasedigh> Is there a way to reduce memory  usage on ubuntu gnome?
[21:21] <sabasedigh> i.e disable/delete some process/Core_gnome_apps
[21:28] <Perk> o/ Howdy, I'm using the ESM repo for Trusty, but I'm getting MD5 mismatches. I've cleaned up the files in /var/lib/apt/lists but still showing issues
[21:28] <Perk> W: Failed to fetch https://esm.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-infra-security/main/binary-amd64/Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[21:28] <Perk> This appears to be an upstream issue
[21:28] <Perk> I hope I'm reporting it correctly :)
[21:31] <sarnold> Perk: look around in /var/lib/apt/lists for the download -- it might be in partial/, I'm not too sure..
[21:31] <sarnold> Perk: read the contents of the thing, the usual problem is silly proxies doing silly things, but maybe whatever is in the file will give you a good idea of what went worng
[21:31] <Perk> Rock on, will do. Thanks!
[21:38] <kri_> jeremy31: windows is installed now, just clicked through ubuntu installation and in the end the installed warns that there is not EFI partition and ubuntu may fail to start
[21:39] <kri_> Ii forced to continue now but it sounds not really good
[21:39] <sarnold> Perk: heh, yeah, it might be a problem upstream. I'm poking around. :) thanks!
[21:39] <jeremy31> kri_: is BIOS set to Legacy only?
[21:40] <kri_> jeremy31, yes I set it to legacy only
[21:40] <jeremy31> kri_: did you get a text grub screen when you booted the ISO?
[21:40] <kri_> yes
[21:41] <kri_> and /sys/firmware/efi does not exist
[21:41] <kri_> so the installer started the legacy mode
[21:41] <jeremy31> kri_: That was the EFI boot then, there is a different boot in Legacy mode with a graphic that has something about automatic start in 10 seconds
[21:42] <kri_> hmmm yes I know the graphic you mean
[21:43] <kri_> but shouldn't there be /sys/firmware/efi now?
[21:43] <kri_> when it really started in EFI mode?
[21:44] <jeremy31> kri_: check in terminal>  mokutil --sb-state
[21:45] <kri_> EFI vars are not supported on this system
[21:45] <kri_> I am still wondering if 20.10 is fine with legacy...I was reading something that the support was stopped with 20.04
[21:45] <jeremy31> kri_: I am not sure why it is complaining about no EFI system partition then
[21:46] <kri_> ok I will finish the installation and hope :)
[21:46] <jeremy31> kri_: how did you put the ISO on USB?
[21:46] <sarnold> kri_,jeremy31, perhaps related https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1915152
[21:47] <kri_> jeremy31, I am using a DVD
[21:48] <kri_> usb did not start in legacy mode
[21:48] <kri_> so I tried to burn it and that seemed to work :)
[21:49] <jeremy31> kri_: any reason not to use 20.04 on that machine?  20.04 is supported until 2025 and 20.10 is only supported until this August
[21:49] <kri_> no reason, 20.04 would be also fine
[21:50] <kri_> but the website stated that >=20.04 does not support legacy
[21:51] <kri_> so you think I should give 20.04 a try?
[21:51] <jeremy31> kri_: I doubt that is correct, as I am using Mint that is based on Ubuntu 20.04 on another computer and it works in Legacy boot
[21:52] <kri_> ok than I am going to download it
[21:53] <jeremy31> kri_: It is just the boot loader(grub) that needs to support Legacy.  I haven't heard that grub-pc was dropped
[21:53] <kri_> ok
[21:55] <kri_> https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-legacy-server/releases/20.04.1/release/
[21:55] <kri_> for server images there is a "legacy" version
[21:56] <kri_> for the desktop version that does not seem to exist, right?
[21:57] <jeremy31> kri_: Do you want GUI or server?
[22:01] <kri_> hm installation failed with an grub error. but when rebooting grub comes up and entries for ubuntu and windows seem good
[22:03] <kri_> should I be happy with that?
[22:03] <jeremy31> kri_: see if the menu options work
[22:03] <kri_> just started ubuntu and it works
[22:04] <kri_> doing the updated now and will try windows after that
[22:04] <jeremy31> kri_: ok
[22:10] <kri_> jeremy31, ok I just did an update-grub und grub-install /dev/sda2. Both worked fine. Windows and Ubuntu boot fine
[22:11] <kri_> eh /dev/sda not 2...
[22:13] <jeremy31> kri_: good, grub gets installed to drive and not a partition for most installs
[22:13] <kri_> yes that was just a typo
[22:33] <RenatoPS>  Iḿ trying to open a dwg file in my libreCad, but  it do not work, the libre just says that it is an experimental version and closes.   I´m using an linux Mint.  Can anyone help me?
[22:36] <Bashing-om> !mint | RenatoPS
[22:39] <DrManhattan> ok, just want to give you props for how that bot works. Neato torpedo @ piping bot commands to a user like that
[23:11] <jayjo> is there a popular app to use a usb webcam as a QR code reader? I'm interested in scanning a code from a mailer
[23:23] <JoeBk> jayjo, there are several for android phones that work well.


[02:19] <xubuntu955> Hi. Congrats guys, this is awesome :)
[02:19] <Unit193> Glad you like it.
[02:21] <xubuntu955> Yes. I'm trying to make my USB key bootable (the one with the OS, not the installer)... Have tried with acronis AFTER install but it gave me MBR errors :(
[02:29] <xubuntu136> I can't delete adobe files
[02:29] <xubuntu136> I stupidliy dowloaded flash and now I can't delete a load of files from their usr/share/cmap location
[02:29] <sleezio> hello, can someone recommend a text editor capable of opening a 16M text file? i thought for sure Kate would, but it won't(nor will gedit)
[02:30] <xubuntu136> no sorry
[02:31] <xubuntu136> do u know how to aggressively remove unwanted files?
[02:31] <sleezio> xubuntu136, have you tried opening thunar  with sudo(terminal)?
[02:31] <xubuntu136> no
[02:31] <xubuntu136> would that work?
[02:32] <sleezio> open terminal, type: sudo thunar
[02:32] <sleezio> enter password, go delete
[02:33] <sleezio> bah, the one utility i miss from windows...ultraedit
[02:34] <xubuntu136> yeah D: adobe's such a douche
[02:34] <sleezio> flashblock(firefox) addon helps
[02:35] <sleezio> no one can suggest a powerful text editor other than KAte and gedit?
[02:36] <xubuntu136> cream?
[02:37] <xubuntu136> jedit?
[02:37] <sleezio> i'll give them a shot
[02:37] <xubuntu136> emacs
[02:37] <xubuntu136> vim n nano
[02:38] <fibz_> +1 for vim
[02:39] <sleezio> gvim the same as vim?
[02:40] <fibz_> never heard of gvim
[02:40] <xubuntu136> neither
[02:40] <sleezio> vim w/ gnome gui
[02:40] <fibz_> just use nano or gedit
[02:40] <sleezio> eh, installing it, i'll give it a shot
[02:41] <sleezio> gedit frezzes halfway through the file load(16M)
[02:41] <sleezio> *ee
[02:41] <fibz_> k
[02:41] <xubuntu136> can adobe still reveal ur ip if you go on tor if its not uploaded to mozilla but you still have the files on ur system??
[02:42] <sleezio> xubuntu136, you should look into the flashblock addon, it won't let any flash load unless you click(allow) it
[02:42] <xubuntu136> thanks
[02:44] <xubuntu136> awesome! u're a star been messing about with trying to delete those for ages
[02:44] <xubuntu136> stubborn bastards
[02:45] <sleezio> bah, gvim froze as well
[02:48] <sleezio> hmm..now i'm wondering if possibly the file is corupt
[02:51] <zack123> hello
[02:51] <zack123> can someone help me install kali without vbox
[02:51] <zack123> ???
[02:52] <holstein> zack123: maybe a kali support channel
[02:52] <holstein> !kali
[02:52] <holstein> zack123: the installer will be similar, if not the same as ubuntu's.. but, its not supported here
[02:52] <zack123> i was baned for idk what
[02:52] <holstein> !ban
[02:52] <IdleOne> we can't help with kali. you will need to talk to the kali ops for that
[02:53] <zack123> i left my pc on last night with xchat on could that be the reason
[02:53] <sleezio> isn't kali a hacker type setup of linux?
[02:53] <zack123> where are kali ops at
[02:53] <zack123> yes it is
[02:54] <holstein> zack123: ask at one of the linkx provided above.. this channel is *not* for kali support
[02:54] <zack123> #linux-ops
[02:54] <zack123> ??
[02:55] <fibz_> if your having problems with kali, just make a new one. you shouldnt be using kali as a desktop OS
[02:55] <sleezio> zack: #kali-linux
[02:56] <zack123> im not i just want the os and ubuntu off my pc
[02:56] <zack123> i was baned sleezo
[02:56] <fibz_> so you want ##windows ?
[02:56] <holstein> zack123: then, just install it.. ask in an appropriate support channel, or in the #xubuntu-offtopic channel
[02:56] <zack123> no kali-linux
[02:56] <holstein> zack123: what you are doing now is why you were likely banned
[02:57] <kondor1001> got an old lappy today :)
[02:57] <holstein> zack123: i have asked you not to inquire about kali here. please stop and go to the offtopic channel, or to kali support
[02:57] <kondor1001> do the alpha guys have a channel, or hang here?
[03:00] <holstein> kondor1001: alpha?
[03:01] <kondor1001> current alpha2 14.04
[03:01] <holstein> !14.04
[03:01] <kondor1001> lol
[03:02] <kondor1001> just wanted to know how the installer was going,  might have a coffee and then fire it up
[03:05] <kondor1001> i found it,  #xubuntu-devel i think
[03:06] <sleezio> bah, i guess my file is corrupt, oh well
[03:06] <holstein> kondor1001: ?
[03:06] <holstein> kondor1001: #ubuntu+1 is actually a good place to go for 14.04
[03:55] <itai> hi, i would like thunderbird to open pptx with libre office but it is now set  to another application by default, the 'open with' dialogue doesn't offer libre office , it gives me the option of adding it , but i dont know where to find it...o
[03:56] <holstein>  /usr/bin ?
[03:56] <holstein>  /usr/bin/libreoffice works for me
[03:59] <itai> holstein, I dont have libreoffice in /usr/bin
[03:59] <itai> oh, sorry ,i do,.,
[03:59] <itai> it works, thanks
[04:00] <holstein> itai: cheers
[04:02] <tgm4883_> Is there a list of new stuff for 14.04?
[04:40] <Belial`> tgm4883_, right off the bat things i've noticed are sync to vblank in compositer settings
[04:40] <Belial`> and there's a screenlocker that uses the login now instead of the ugliness from before.
[04:40] <Belial`> xscreensaver or whatever.
[04:41] <Belial`> the vsync is a little flaky
[04:41] <Belial`> i just had to restart the compositer for it to work.
[04:41] <Unit193> s/xscreensaver/light-locker/
[04:42] <Belial`> light locker was the previous lock screen?
[04:42] <Unit193> New one.
[04:42] <Belial`> ah ok
[04:42] <Belial`> yeah, it's a lot nicer.
[04:42]  * Unit193 didn't have a problem with the old one.
[04:43] <Belial`> it worked
[06:06] <delt> hello
[06:07] <fibz_> hi
[06:07] <delt> what is the quicket way to update grub boot loader after a windowz fuckup.........
[06:07] <delt> ie. windows decided to reinstall and clobber my MBR
[06:08] <fibz_> sudo apt-get grub update
[06:08] <delt> from the live-cd?
[06:08] <fibz_> sudo apt-get update grub
[06:08] <fibz_> yeah or you can install boot-repair
[06:09] <delt> apt-get needs an internet connectionn right?
[06:09] <fibz_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[06:09] <fibz_> yes
[06:09] <fibz_> well it should use the live USB repo actually
[06:09] <delt> i just want to rewrite my MBF, not connect to a network
[06:09] <delt> i just want to rewrite my MBR, not connect to a network
[06:10] <fibz_> without internet, it will use the update grub from the live USB repo
[06:12] <delt> boot interrupted when trying to run from the CDD. after ending up in a basic environment, tried running "update-grub" ...no success :(
[06:14] <ruien> delt: I think i've done what you are referring to, but it may or may not be exactly the same. GRUB should be able to do it, but you need to give it options about which drive and such to install to, and where the root is. I think there are some options in the manpage or some examples online for that
[06:14] <ruien> i remember having to mount my linux partition and chroot into it, I think, then do the grub stuff?
[06:14] <Sysi> !grub2
[06:15] <delt> anyway what i want to know is, what's the simplest way to boot from the live/install cd and rewrite my MBR
[06:15] <delt> ruien: yeah i tried that :/
[06:16] <Sysi> mount your root partition and then run grub-instaöö with correct options
[06:16] <Sysi> as specified in that factoid
[06:16] <Sysi> (chroot didn't work for me)
[06:17] <delt> faaackk this is so simple with lilo!!!!!
[06:18] <ruien> delt: I used to have to do this a lot before, but haven't used windows at all since 12.04 release, so I forgot. I bet if you can give us some pastes of what you're seeing we can help you work it out.
[06:19] <delt> oh speaking of which i'm on a slackware partition right now
[06:19] <delt> ruien: you have a computer. with a broken boot record.
[06:20] <delt> ruien: and you have a CD with ubuntu on it.
[06:20] <delt> ruien: fix. how??
[06:21] <ruien> i've never had a broken boot record except because of windows, so i haven't had a broken boot record for over two years, so I forgot. I can't really break my workstation to figure it out, but if i see what you're seeing I'm sure it'll come back to me.
[06:23] <delt> i DO NOT want to reinstall ubuntu to a dummy partition, just to have grub fix my mbr.
[06:24] <ruien> err.. who said you'd have to do that? Pretty sure you can fix it right from the liveCD.
[06:24] <delt> EXACTLY what i'm trying to do
[06:30] <delt> ok, just tried again with lilo from this slackware partition...
[07:02] <xubuntu051> Hi
[07:03] <genii> xubuntu051: Hello! Please just state your Xubuntu question to the channel and then see if someone is around who may assist
[07:03] <genii> Hm. Kids these days, no patience.
[07:11]  * Noskcaj still believes we need a bot to respond to "hi", "hello", "can anyone help me"
[07:12] <fibz_> i agree
[07:12] <fibz_> whole heartedly
[07:13] <Golynx> Noskcaj: should i greet the bot back ?
[07:13] <elfy> no
[07:13] <Noskcaj> lol
[07:14] <Golynx> hmm, then people will strt to ask the bot their questions and get upset at the bot for not responding
[07:14] <Golynx> start*
[07:14] <Noskcaj> good point
[07:15] <Sysi> !hi
[07:16] <Sysi> hum, which one says it's a bot
[07:16] <genii> Sometimes when i greet users like that they go something like: Thank you friendly bot!
[07:16] <genii> ( or similar)
[07:20] <Golynx> Sysi: so when a client enters they have to do -->!hi to get the bot to respond?
[07:20] <genii> ubottu: Hello
[07:20] <Golynx> I think Noskcaj meant it should be automatic
[07:21] <Noskcaj> yep
[07:21] <Sysi> that could work
[07:21] <Sysi> though people probably eould ignore it saying it's a bot
[07:23] <Golynx> or you can just put in the room topic "Hi and welcome to xubuntu!"
[07:25] <genii> About 0.001% of people read room topics
[07:26] <Golynx> genii: about 99.998% of the time its the first thing they see in the room
[07:28] <Noskcaj> Golynx, yes, but paying to it attention is rare
[07:31] <Golynx> Noskcaj: thats true , but the subconsious mind will pick up the "Hi and welcome to xubuntu!" instantly even though the clients eyes is focused on messages text below that.
[07:31] <elfy> anyway - this should all be in -ooftopic really
[07:31] <bazhang> oof
[07:32] <Golynx> yes elfy it should be a footopic
[07:32] <bazhang> !ot | Golynx
[07:33] <Golynx> bazhang: i know :/
[07:33] <bazhang> Golynx, so please take it there
[07:33] <Golynx> no thanks
[11:23] <mawty> Hi, I was wondering if I could have some help with a question. I just moved over to Xubuntu and I was wondering if there was a simple way to configure the panel for dual monitors much in the same way it operates in Windows 8? Where the open applications on one monitor show on its respective panel
[11:25] <Sysi> have a panel with window buttons on both monitors, set window buttons to only show windows of that monitor
[11:25] <mawty> I'm not sure how I didn't see that checkbox the first time xD
[11:26] <mawty> Thanks a bunch!
[11:26] <Sysi> no problem
[14:11] <Nightfly> Hello, i have a big probelm with xubuntu ?
[14:11] <Nightfly> Can anyone try to help me ?
[14:11] <GridCube> !ask | Nightfly
[14:13] <Nightfly> Okay, my english is very bad, because i live in Germany. I tried to install the NVIDIA Driver instead of Nouveau. But, when the PC boots, it needs about 30 seconds to have an x-screen.
[14:13] <knome> !de | Nightfly
[14:14] <knome> (though your english is fine, and feel free to ask on this channel)
[14:14] <Nightfly> thank You and have a nice day
[14:17] <Nightfly> sorry, no one knows this problem in the German Channels
[14:17] <knome> is there any reason to use the proprietary driver?
[14:17] <knome> eg. is there any problems with nouveau
[14:18] <Nightfly> No !Nouveau works fine
[14:19] <knome> okay... then you should use nouveau
[14:20] <knome> why would you want to use a proprietary driver over an open source driver, if there's no problems with the latter?
[14:20] <Nightfly> Many people say, NVIDIA knows there Hardware better than other people
[14:21] <knome> well that's a given, they produced it
[14:21] <SirLagz> Nightfly: of course they would...they designed it
[14:21] <knome> but as the saying goes... "don't fix it, if it isn't broken"
[14:21] <SirLagz> i break that rule all the time
[14:21] <SirLagz> hence why things break :D
[14:21] <Nightfly> I will choose noueveau, because a frozen Screen is nonsens
[14:22] <knome> Nightfly, that you should do. have fun!
[14:23] <Nightfly> Than You very much for Your help and i will have fun. XP need about 3 minutes to boot teh PC Xubuntu abouet 30 sekonds with the noeuveau driver
[14:23] <knome> Nightfly, that's nice to hear
[14:24] <Nightfly> I wish everybody for the future the very, very best, if i get problems i will come back, if You allow it ?
[14:24] <cfhowlett> Nightfly, of course
[14:25] <Nightfly> Thank You very very much and bve ! Greetings form Germany to England, USA and so on CU
[15:05] <leguaani> can anyone here help with nvidia drivers?
[15:06] <leguaani> or know where i should ask
[15:06] <holstein> !nvidia | leguaani
[15:06] <holstein> here is where you can ask
[15:07] <leguaani> i did install them already, actually tried a few
[15:07] <holstein> a few what?
[15:07] <leguaani> but the problem is the "powermizer" thing is broken and fan is running full speed
[15:07] <leguaani> different versions of drivers.
[15:07] <holstein> sure, and it may not be supported
[15:08] <leguaani> so theres no way to change the power state?
[15:08] <holstein> leguaani: its all open on this end, so there is always a way
[15:09] <holstein> leguaani: ideally, nvidia will provide you, or their driver, or linux a way to interface with the hardware they have created that you have purchased
[15:09] <holstein> if they havent, then, sometimes, compromises will need to be made
[15:09] <leguaani> oops, sorry I should have mentioned this is a old laptop
[15:09] <holstein> i would say, the first step would be to look for documentation for your specific hardware and ubuntu
[15:10] <leguaani> so I would not expect much much support from nvidia
[15:10] <holstein> you can also try the main ubuntu community, since this is not specifically related to xfce or xubuntu, and there is no constructive reason to limit your search here
[15:11] <leguaani> they didn't seem interested, also I thought it could be window manager related
[15:11] <holstein> i would get specifics about the hardware model and share those.. occasionally, on older machines, i'll try an older release.. or, i'll just use the vesa driver
[15:11] <holstein> leguaani: try another window manager if you feel it is..
[15:11] <leguaani> it's geforce fx5200m
[15:12] <holstein> leguaani: the issue is, others have problems with nvidia as you mention.. the window manager is pretty well suported and tested
[15:12] <leguaani> I was just seeking another opinion, in case I'm being stupid
[15:12] <leguaani> ok.
[15:12] <holstein> leguaani: the vesa driver is always an option
[15:13] <leguaani> but my main problem is ear splitting fan noise, so I don't really care what driver I'm using if I could lower the power state?
[15:13] <holstein> leguaani: have you tried the vesa driver?
[15:13] <leguaani> do you been the default driver in xubuntu (sorry I'm quite new to this)
[15:14] <holstein> leguaani: no.. i mean the vesa driver
[15:14] <holstein> leguaani: the default in xubuntu for that hardware will be the open nvidia driver
[15:15] <holstein> leguaani: then, there is the proprietary one in the repos, and a newer one you can get from the nvidia site (likely newer) and the ppa version fom xswat
[15:15] <holstein> leguaani: then, you can try the vesa driver
[15:15] <holstein> !vesa
[15:15] <leguaani> ok, I have only used the open nvidia one and few versions of proprietary one.
[15:16] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1270209 is a sample one
[15:16] <leguaani> uhh, sorry but what are the !things?
[15:16] <holstein> i would just drop it in, and not bother with the resolution settings.. just test the driver and the fan noise issue you are trying to address
[15:16] <holstein> leguaani: the !things are information from the bot.. about !vesa for example
[15:17] <leguaani> okay that should have been obvious :D
[15:17] <holstein> leguaani: i mention it because i have the *exact* same issue on a via chip.. i use the open chrome driver now, but, years back, i chose to use the vesa driver, since the fan noise was an issue
[15:18] <leguaani> that sounds good
[15:20] <holstein> sure.. and i have also had other cases (nvidia) where i just lived with the fan noise.. and other cases, where i just changed hardware
[15:20] <leguaani> that post says it sets 60hz refresh, but it seems the laptop screen is only 50hz?
[15:20] <holstein> could be the proprietary driver for your device needs or suuports an older kernel
[15:21] <leguaani> yeah I have AMD+AMD on my desktop and Intel/Intel on my "real" laptop
[15:21] <holstein> leguaani: you put that file in place, reboot, and you can remove it from a live CD or tty or recovery console and get back to where you are now
[15:21] <leguaani> I'm just trying to resurrect a old laptop for checking email etc
[15:22] <leguaani> ok I'll try it
[15:26] <leguaani> I'll reboot now see how it goes, thanks for the help
[16:48] <Rommy> Buonasera a tutti
[16:48] <knome> !it | Rommy
[18:51] <on4aa> Hi, I just received an upgrade on xubuntu 12.04, now all browsers are slow and flash no longer works. Java is also slow.
[18:52] <on4aa> Any suggestions?
[19:00] <TheSheep> welcome to the future \o/
[19:01] <TheSheep> but seriously, look for what slows it
[19:13] <on4aa> Where can I find my automatic upgrade history log?
[19:51] <xubuntu> hi all
[19:51] <Guest42040> i am trying to install xubuntu on ssd
[19:52] <Guest42040> how to define root file system_
[20:30] <krysztal> Hi. I want to install pepper flash plugin to Maxthon browser. As it's chromium based browser, it's should be simple, but did i have to disable build-in flash plugin from it first? If yes, how?
[20:31] <holstein> krysztal: you shouldnt.. i literally just install chrome, not chromium.. then you can find the plugin there if you want to try and "mis-use" it
[20:32] <krysztal> Yeah, but I still don't want to install chrome... okay, fine.
[20:32] <holstein> krysztal: you'll need to obtain the pepper flash
[20:32] <holstein> krysztal: you strip it from chrome
[20:33] <krysztal> So yeah, install, not use it
[20:33] <holstein> krysztal: i assue you, this is just a fact.. if you want to use it or not is your business.. the pepperflash is in the chrome browser.. if you want it, you get it from there
[20:35] <krysztal> Okay, okay. I actually want to try it, because I have little but annoying problem with normal flash, and just don't know what to do
[20:36] <holstein> krysztal: there is no "normal" flash.. for linux, there is the current one, only available officially in the chrome browser, and the repo one, which is an older maintained one
[20:36] <holstein> http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[20:36] <krysztal> I meant that adobe abbandoned one
[20:37] <krysztal> ...abandoned
[20:37] <holstein> then, you mean the repo version.. the older one
[20:37] <holstein> for which, adobe provides security updates..
[20:38] <krysztal> Yeah, anyway, want to know something
[20:39] <krysztal> Because I'm using script that maximize youtube player to browser window size
[20:39] <krysztal> There is option to disable it by scrolling down site. It's working on windows, and don't on linux
[20:40] <holstein> disable what?
[20:41] <krysztal> Disable resizing
[20:41] <lectus> Guys! I need your help! So, my motherboard broke and I replaced the entire computer with a new one, but added my old HDs (one with Windows 7) and the other with Xubuntu. Xubuntu still boots, but Windows stopped booting. It seems I'll have to reinstall Windows and then repair grub so it can boot Xubuntu and Windows. I'll use the new hd as storage for data. Any help is welcome on how I can do this procedure. Thanks
[20:41] <krysztal> This thing: https://github.com/YePpHa/YouTubeCenter/wiki/Features#wiki-Fullscreen_Top_Player
[20:41] <holstein> krysztal:  i read "i have added a script to resize.. how do i disable resizing?".. to which, i think, dont run the script
[20:42] <holstein> lectus: you may.. you are not "allowed" to move windows like you are linux
[20:42] <holstein> lectus: you will ask in a windows support channel
[20:42] <lectus> I'm asking on how to reinstall grub guys
[20:42] <holstein> !grub
[20:42] <lectus> I'm fine with reinstalling Windows
[20:43] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[20:43] <holstein> or, this specifically targeting the question.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[20:43] <lectus> so after running sudo grub-install
[20:43] <lectus> will it detect windows?
[20:44] <holstein> lectus: after referring to the above link, it *should*
[20:44] <holstein> nothing about grub will prevent that
[20:53] <lectus> holstein, that grub-install command can be run from a live-cd right?
[20:54] <holstein> lectus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair explains how to do that, from live CD
[20:54] <holstein> lectus: the other links explain how to do it from the commandline, and other ways
[20:56] <lectus> thanks
[23:09] <zsw__> is there a way i can go through the bios and assess my pc's database. i just got cain&able and want to test it ous.
[23:26] <olivier__> need help! my wifi adapter won't turn on!!
[23:28] <knome> zsw__, what "database"?
[23:29] <zsw__> database that has encrypted passwords
[23:29] <knome> zsw__, i'm not following you
[23:30] <zsw__> theres a database i forgot the name for but it has all the passwords and user names on my pc
[23:31] <slickymaster> zsw__: could it be KeePass?
[23:32] <zsw__> yes thats it but i dont know how to assess it
[23:33] <knome> zsw__, we're not helping you to crack passwords on this channel.
[23:34] <zsw__> you dont have to walk me through that part. i just want to assess that database of my *own* passwords. its legal.
[23:35] <knome> zsw__, this is as far as we go with this subject.
[23:36] <zsw__> ok thats fine