[00:02] <ActionParsnip> has anyone seen wolfenQt?
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> crazy stuff
[00:03] <JohnH3> I have a problem when switching to virtual terminal in kubuntu - it sometimes logs me out of my GUI session
[00:03] <JohnH3> Anyone have any idea?
[00:04] <JohnH3> is there anyone out there?
[00:07] <contrast> ActionParsnip: yeah, i saw that. very interesting.
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> bit ott
[00:07] <contrast> JohnH3: sounds like a graphics driver issue. ati?
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> its like 3DNA for windws
[00:07] <JohnH3> NVidia actually - 8400GS
[00:07] <contrast> ott?
[00:08] <contrast> JohnH3: which driver are you using?
[00:08] <JohnH3> nvidia 180
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> ott = over the top
[00:08] <contrast> the one in the repos? and which release of kubuntu?
[00:09] <contrast> JohnH3: ^
[00:09] <JohnH3> 8.04.  I think I installed Nvidia 180 manually, but I also think I had the problem before that when I was using 177
[00:11] <contrast> JohnH3: maybe try logging into a failsafe session and see if it still does it? you using kde3 or 4?
[00:12] <demi> in KDE4 How do i take 1600x1200 resolution off Auto? i would prefer 1280x960 be Auto
[00:12] <demi> that is why everytime i restart it goes to 1600x1200, I want that auto off.
[00:12] <JohnH3> ok, I'll try that later - I need to stay booted up for now.  I'm using kde3 by the way.
[00:12] <contrast> demi: did you already change it in System Settings -> Display?
[00:12] <JohnH3> Thanks contrast
[00:13] <contrast> JohnH3: np, good luck
[00:13] <demi> i chose 1280x960, but when i reboot it goes back to the Auto 1600x1200
[00:13] <contrast> JohnH3: by failsafe session, i meant from the login screen, not the boot menu
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> demi: set the leftmost res in xorg.conf to be your desired res
[00:13] <contrast> demi: what kinda graphics card?
[00:13] <demi> it says auto by 1600x1200 and no others, and i dont know how to change that.
[00:13] <JohnH3> Oh I see ....in that case ....
[00:13] <demi> ATI radeon X1800xt
[00:14] <contrast> demi: did you change it in Catalyst also?
[00:14] <devilsadvocate> demi, auto as in refresh rate? :/
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> demi: kdesudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:14] <contrast> devilsadvocate: auto as in res
[00:14] <demi> nah just says auto next to the resolution, im nto sure, but thats what it keeps chaning too after i restart.
[00:15] <demi> Hey I did change it in my catalyst drivers let me try that, i tried adding lines in xorg.conf to set my res but that caused X to hang and not respond upon reboot.
[00:16] <demi> Brb though.
[00:17] <contrast> battery's gettin' low. peace, y'all
[00:21] <demi> Ok i changed my settings in my Catalyst Drivers, also, but it still restarts back in 1600x1200
[00:21] <demi> what do i add into xorg.conf, i used my papers form Freebsd, assuming its the same thing in this xorg.conf to add resolutions.
[00:22] <demi> But it caused X not to respond.
[00:29] <demi> What do i add in my xorg.conf to set resolution to 1280x960* upon reboot, because that has to be whats causing my prob.
[00:29] <Tirili> Can I start X with the command startx as a user in a shell as I can do it in other distros? It doesn't know the command startx here. :(
[00:29] <hernan> hellooooooooooo
[00:29] <demi> i got it to work when X was closed Tirili
[00:30] <BluesKaj> Tirili, yes , startx is the right cmnd
[00:30] <cchisogn> demi: did you check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution?
[00:30] <Tirili> Hm. Then everything is broken here.
[00:32] <hernan> somebody prub ubuntu 2.0 ue gamer?
[00:33] <hernan> i have that distro
[00:33] <hernan> somebody to speak spanish?
[00:35] <dr_willis> !es
[00:35] <dr_willis> Ubuntu 2.0 Gamer ?
[00:35] <hernan> sii
[00:35] <hernan> ese tengo ahora
[00:36] <hernan> es ultimte edition
[00:36] <hernan> 2.0
[00:36] <hernan> gamer
[00:36] <dr_willis> Thats not a officialy supported version of uibuntu/kubuntu. so they may have their own support channel. Unless its a very gerneal questin
[00:37] <hernan> okey
[00:37] <hernan> i donwloaded
[00:37] <hernan> from tehe page
[00:38] <hernan> theeman is realesed it
[00:39] <hernan> he realized a 2.1 version too
[00:39] <hernan> is based in 8.10 intrepix
[00:43] <dr_willis> well that was pointless....
[00:43] <dr_willis> :)
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> yeah kinda
[00:52] <demi> Well i added in some display modes bt X when logging out won't respond, i know im doing this right because I would always have to manually add them in using Freebsd.
[00:53] <dr_willis> You mean to say the PC freezes when you log out of X ?
[00:53] <dr_willis> or at least X freezes.. can you ssh in from anotehr pc?
[00:54] <demi> i don't have that setup atm. I did a recovery and restored X, to get back in.
[00:54] <dr_willis> last i had a X lockup on logouit - was due to video card drivers..
[00:54] <demi> if I send my xorg.conf in on pastebin, could someone help me to add the lines i need in it to make my comp log in keeping my 1280x960 resolution?
[00:55] <dr_willis> You using some odd hardware/conectors? normally X should be able to see what all modes you can use.
[00:55] <dr_willis> ive not had to tweak my modes in ages.
[00:56] <dr_willis> Not using a KVM switch?  DVI lcd monitor?
[00:56] <demi> i know how to do this on Freebsd, but this xorg.conf is like empty, and I add the subsection under "screen" and X just wont pick it up, and screen stays black.
[00:57] <demi> just using a reg old Dell Trinitron
[00:57] <dr_willis> new xorg.conf files are very minimal
[00:57] <dr_willis> demi,  dvi or vga conection?
[00:58] <clover> is kde 4.2.1 in the repo channel. I have kubuntu 8.10
[00:58] <demi> DVI to VGA monitor is VGA so im using an adapter off mycard to vga, but that shold be a prob just converting it.
[00:58] <dr_willis> That may be an issue there demi  if it was DVI all the way -X would proberly be using the proper modes by default
[00:59] <demi> Clover , ionly 4.2.0 is i believe ve upgraded now 10 times and diff reinstalls trying to fix my resolution.
[00:59] <dr_willis> best thing i ever did was get rid of my VGA stuff.
[01:00] <demi> Yea, Well i getting a new Asus 22" widescreen here soon, but why doesnt this happen on KDE3.5 or Ubuntu Gnome?
[01:01] <dr_willis> 'what' happens exactly?
[01:02] <dr_willis> The X modes are defined by the xorg.conf or auto-detected. the desktops can switch modes using the xrandr tools.. but other then that. theres not a lot of differances/things that kde3.5/gnome/kde4/OtherDesktops do to the modes
[01:03] <demi> Ok, My resolution is now set at 1280x960, i then log out or restart doesnt matter, my once kdm loads or X, my resolution goes 1600x1200, if i then open KDE's Display Manager, it's still set at 1280x960 and refresh's automatically.
[01:03] <demi> So bascially i have to load open display each reboot to have my wanted resolution refresh...
[01:04] <clover> Hey is kubuntu ok for being used as a web server?
[01:04] <demi> It's just really annoying to have to do that each time.
[01:05] <dr_willis> clover,  it can be used like that.
[01:05] <demi> Clover, yes works great, be sure to install Adobe Flash, and Java, for Sites needing it.
[01:05] <clover> thank you?
[01:05] <dr_willis> demi,  so you use the kde tools to set the res to what you like. but it dosent save it for the user.
[01:05] <demi> errr Server=\ thought I saw browser..=\
[01:05] <maco> clover: well i dont think kde includes that functionality (but then, it has practically everything)...but no reason you cant install apache
[01:06] <demi> it saves it but doesnt refresh to it upon reboot, or if i log out.
[01:06] <dr_willis> demi,  try a new user. see if works for them.. sounds to me like its just a KDE config/setting issue
[01:06] <dr_willis> not a xorg issue
[01:06] <demi> Like i said ill log in with 1600x1200, but once i open the display window in KDE it auto goes to my selected resolution.
[01:07] <demi> and this would happen over and over after 10 installs?
[01:07] <dr_willis> you just said it worked? wati a second..
[01:08] <dr_willis> KDM screenn is 1600x1200,  you login with a new user first time.. it is still using 1600x1200 right? you then set the res you want.. and it dosent 'rember' that setting for the user next time he logs in?
[01:08] <clover> does anyone have experience with linux user groups. I want to start one due to lack of them in my area
[01:08] <demi> Yes, your correct.
[01:08] <maco> dr_willis: it remembers it, but it doesnt set it
[01:08] <maco> clover: ive no experience with starting one, but im a member of a few
[01:09] <demi> aye it still has it remembered, but doesnt apply it upon restart. or logging back in.
[01:10] <maco> so this sounds like a bug...."kde session starts at max resolution instead of the one set in system settings" (or whatever the tool is in kde...ive never looked)
[01:10] <demi> It's Display under System Settings.
[01:10] <maco> do you have to hit "apply" or does it refresh to the right resolution as soon as you look in Display?
[01:11] <demi> i have read on various sites of the same user having this problem, but he couldnt find a answer to it, and he tried liek 3+ diff forums/blogs.
[01:11] <demi> i do hit apply yes
[01:11] <maco> and this is with 8.10?
[01:11] <clover> maco> any advice from your experiences? maybe from what you see and how its organized
[01:11] <demi> 8.10, updated, or 8.10 upgraded to kde 4.2.0
[01:11] <maco> so it happens with both kde 4.1 and 4.2?
[01:11] <demi> Yea=\
[01:12] <demi> kde 3.5 works fine, and gnome, refreshs to my chosen resolution.
[01:12] <demi> Wouldnt, adding in my own res into xorg.conf force it to use that no matter?
[01:12] <demi> i just wish X wouldnt lock up when adding in anything heh.
[01:13] <maco> clover: dclug: we meet on the 3rd wed of each month in a borrowed conference room. someone does a presentation each month. sometimes this is someone from a corporation talkng about their awesome software that will make linux sysadmins' lives easier. sometimes its someone talking about this cool foss project they use and how to set it up (asterisk and mythtv were in here)
[01:13] <goofey> clover: I think you'll get much more info from http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/User-Group-HOWTO.html that here on that topic
[01:14] <maco> clover: novalug meets first saturday of the month in a different borrowed room. they ususaly have 2 or 3 small talks at a meeting instead of 1 2-hour presentation
[01:14] <maco> clover: if you're in a city, weekday evenings (like dclug) make sense because people can pop over two blocks down after work
[01:15] <maco> clover: novalug is in a suburban area, so saturday mornings make sense for them. take things like that into account
[01:15] <clover> where is dclug i live in the area and would love to attend?
[01:15] <goofey> maco: nova stands for?
[01:15] <maco> goofey: northern virginia
[01:15] <goofey> maco: ahh, thx
[01:16] <maco> clover: you live in dc?
[01:16] <clover> I am close by
[01:16] <maco> clover: radio free asia, 2125 M St NW
[01:16] <maco> clover: http://dclug.tux.org
[01:16] <maco> clover: 7-9pm, and as i said, 3rd wed of each month
[01:17] <clover> And that is this wednesday, right?
[01:17] <maco> yes
[01:17] <maco> clover: if by "close by" you mean you're in maryland, there's also CALUG...the Columbia Area Linux Users' Group
[01:18] <maco> hrm i ought to go to lug tomorrow night. no class getting in the way this week
[01:18] <clover> thanks! This helps alot. I live in an area where I am the only geek
[01:18] <clover> let alone linux enthusiast
[01:18] <maco> where?
[01:21] <maco> demi: i'm asking in #kubuntu-devel
[01:22] <demi> Thanks, hopefully some info, this is annoying, im talking to some friends in #Freebsdhelp hoping for some tips.
[01:28] <XPS_M1330> is there a better DVD Ripper than acidrip?
[01:29] <nixternal> heh, never in my life have I ripped a DVD...I kind of feel special...I think Stallman would love me! :p
[01:31] <Slartibartfast> XPS_M1330: maybe k9copy is good for you ... something like dvdshrink, but also let you make avi's and mpeg if i am not wrong :-)
[01:32] <Slartibartfast> XPS_M1330: otherwise there is also dvdrip ... a pearl program which uses transcode for encoding
[01:32] <maco> demi: that's bug 268434 and a workaround to avoid opening Display all the time is to add krandrtray to your startup
[01:32] <XPS_M1330> Slartibartfast: is anyone smarter or more efficient in a way?
[01:33] <Slartibartfast> it is just your personal choice ... i am not using any of them ... just tried a long time ago
[01:33] <Slartibartfast> try them out
[01:33] <XPS_M1330> some time ago on Mandriva I tried a bunch of rippers and I ended up using acidrip. Now that I have a couple of DVDs to rip I'm wondering if there's one that actually got better
[01:33] <XPS_M1330> ok right
[01:33] <XPS_M1330> thanks
[01:34] <XPS_M1330> acidrip is a 3MB download, dvdrip 11...
[01:35] <Slartibartfast> XPS_M1330: So ... ? :-) ... an Xvid of the movie maybe 700MB :-)
[01:41] <XPS_M1330> yes but it won't take any of my limited bandwidth :)
[02:02] <demi> maco thanks dude, i had the site up to show me what to do, ill give it a go thanks btw.
[02:06] <j1mc> ... maco != dude
[02:08] <maco> ;)
[02:08] <maco> i dont pick on "dude" since i call everybody dude anyway
[02:09] <maco> "dude! check it out!"
[02:09] <j1mc> :)
[02:09] <maco> (yeah, i watched too much Bill & Ted -ytpe movies)
[02:30] <astrobear> where is the java directory typically?
[02:31] <astrobear> /usr/share/java?
[02:34] <demi> it might be located under Sun?
[02:34] <astrobear> i'm thinking /usr/share/java :)
[02:34] <astrobear> "locate java"
[02:35] <astrobear> i didn't mean to scare him away o.O
[02:40] <devilsadvocate> ok. so i have 2 network cards on one laptop, one ethernet port in my room, and two laptops. any way i can share the network between the two? I've just got one ip address, though, so the two laptops will have to make some sort of local network. I also have a switch with me (dumb one, not programmable) and an assortment of lan cables
[02:41] <devilsadvocate> any help would be much appreciated :)
[02:42] <devilsadvocate> (oh, and pointers, such as terms to google etc will suffice)
[02:42] <genii> !ics
[02:42] <devilsadvocate> genii, thanks :) /me clicks
[02:43] <genii> np
[02:49] <Red_Wraith> hello all.
[02:50] <Red_Wraith> Anyone here?
[02:51] <genii> Red_Wraith: Best to just ask whatever question you may have relating to support and see if anyone answers it
[02:52] <Red_Wraith> genii: thanks.
[02:52] <Red_Wraith> Anyone having trouble running ktorrent?
[02:52] <Red_Wraith> Whenever I open a torrent in kde, the whole plasma except for the menu bar turns white, and the system hangs.
[02:53] <Red_Wraith> I had this problem in KDE 4.1, but the system would resume after being white for a second.
[02:56]  * genii hugs his 3.5.10
[02:57] <Red_Wraith> Yes, I liked it better too.
[02:57] <Red_Wraith> But I'm too lazy to downgrade.
[02:57] <Red_Wraith> I just run xfce when stuff gets buggy.
[02:58] <devilsadvocate> genii, worked like a charm. thanks :)
[02:58] <genii> devilsadvocate: Any time :)
[03:56] <brunoqc> I added the kubuntu-members-kde4 ppa, but apt won't find the amarok-kde4 package. Is there something I can do?
[04:01] <genii> brunoqc: You could manually d/l whatever deb version you need directly from http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/a/amarok-kde4/
[04:02] <brunoqc> genii: thanks
[04:22] <glow_wolf> how do i automate changeing a symbolic link from ttySM0 to modem for kppp
[04:23] <illmortal> Hey anyone know a good program to test the performance of your machine? I need to know if it's my imagination or if linux is performing badly compared to XP.
[04:25] <illmortal> anyone? o.O;
[04:31] <maxagaz> hi
[04:32] <illmortal> it's practically dead in here o.o;
[04:33] <maxagaz> does fish depend on openssh-server ?
[04:38] <snarkster> evening
[04:43] <illmortal> ^^)/
[04:44] <illmortal> Hey anyone know a good program to test the performance of your machine? I need to know if it's my imagination or if linux is performing badly compared to XP.
[04:45] <beardbar> can I make dolphin show hidden files, having trouble finding a configure option for that.
[05:05] <doleyb> illmortal: lol, i have video files i can play under linux but vista is too slow, does that count?
[05:05] <doleyb> illmortal: or maybe Vista is an unfair handicap
[05:05] <SandGorgon>  guys.. some help please - i have particularly nasty crash where my Ubuntu Intrepid just crashes and I go to the BIOS screen after using Virtualbox  2.1.4 for a particular VM. Can anyone tell me how to get more information, so I can file a bug?
[05:07] <maco> actually...i think that one's known
[05:07] <maco> does the guest os kernel panic?
[05:07] <maco> there was something about a guest os panic that causes a host os kernel oops
[05:11] <comawhite> I have a question. how can I remove all of kde3 applications so I can get amarok-2.0.2 and not the kde3 crappy version and kdevelop4?
[05:13] <SandGorgon> maco: i am not sure.. it goes straight to the bios screen (as in computer power screen). it is not just vbox crashing, it takes the whole machine with it - any idea on how to gather more debugging info?
[05:15] <maco> SandGorgon: can you tell if the os inside the vbox crashes before the rest of the machine goes down?
[05:27] <illmortal> doleyb for some reason when I run more than 3 applications the performance bogs down.. and I think I have a fairly good machine.
[05:28] <doleyb> illmortal: what machine and what applications?
[05:28] <comawhite> anyone know how to get amarok-2.0.2?
[05:34] <internet> hello...
[05:49] <justinnfx> Hello.
[05:49] <justinnfx> Can someobody help me with ubuntu/kubuntu
[05:49] <nixternal> with kubuntu maybe
[05:50] <justinnfx> OK
[05:50] <justinnfx> THIS is ultra newbie.lo
[05:51] <nixternal> jono: wrong channel :p
[05:51] <justinnfx> The first time I tried to install ubuntu was live disk, it messed up my computer.   The second time I re-partioned a part of my hdrive fro linux ext3 and that messsed my computer up and I had to reinstall the whole thing.
[05:52] <nixternal> messed it up how? removed another partition?
[05:52] <jono> heh
[05:52] <justinnfx> The thrid time I used WUBI and tried kubuntu, no matter how many time I tired to install it the password did not work
[05:52] <nixternal> hi gorgeous!
[05:52] <justinnfx> and then it would not uninstall
[05:52] <nixternal> hrmm
[05:53] <justinnfx> I am afraid now..but I really want to try ubuntu.  I built a HTPC and right now have no idea how
[05:53] <nixternal> that is odd, don't even know where to begin with wubi
[05:53] <nixternal> do you already have a partition on your machine? ie. Windows or such?
[05:53] <justinnfx> I don't want to use wubi I just want to install it on my laptop w/out wrecking it
[05:53] <nixternal> so you want to dual boot?
[05:53] <justinnfx> On my laptop there is just one partion
[05:54] <nixternal> is it a windows partition?
[05:54] <justinnfx> actually two because it comes with stock stuff on the beginening but its hidden
[05:54] <justinnfx> yes, i never actually ran ubuntu before but tried many times
[05:54] <nixternal> if so and you want to dual boot windows and ubuntu, I would suggest reading through the following wiki page:
[05:55] <nixternal> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[05:55] <justinnfx> k
[05:55] <justinnfx> i'm not that stupid i don't know why im having such bad luck
[05:55] <nixternal> I have never had the privilege of resizing a pre-existing partition and dual-booting unfortunately, or fortunately for me
[05:55] <justinnfx> I built a sweet pc for HTPC I want to use myth, but have no idea i just seen it in action on youtube
[05:56] <nixternal> justinnfx: you should have seen me in 1993 trying to install slackware...we were all so-called "newbies" at one point
[05:56] <nixternal> I had like 25 floppy disks and a 12-pack of beer for that one
[05:56] <nixternal> i think i finished the beer before the install finished :)
[05:56] <justinnfx> at one point I dual booted xp and vista
[05:57] <doleyb> justinnfx: wubi is pretty easy, I'd suggest you try to make it work again first..
[05:57] <justinnfx> Im in college and my classes are about to end should I take a linux class or unix
[05:57] <justinnfx> I heard that unix is better if you want to become software developer / web developer
[05:57] <justinnfx> for some reason
[05:57] <nixternal> doleyb: ya, I tried wubi on my brother's machine last year and it worked like a champ...after about 3 or 4 months he finally gave in and just installed Kubuntu flat out on it
[05:58] <justinnfx> is unix what web host use?
[05:58] <nixternal> justinnfx: a majority of web servers are *NIX, yes
[05:58] <justinnfx> wubi is easy as can be but for some reason the password did not work, and i tried it twice
[05:58] <nixternal> or they used to be...I don't know what the stats are nowadays
[05:59] <justinnfx> but i dont want to try it again because isn't like virtual and not the same as a full installation
[05:59] <justinnfx> is NIX* like all command line or is it GUI like ubuntu
[05:59] <nixternal> justinnfx: no, it is the same as a full installation
[05:59] <nixternal> justinnfx: depends on how you install it...you have the option of either-or, or both
[05:59] <asobi> why can't amarok play audio cd?
[06:00] <nixternal> one you start playing wth the command line and get used to it, your productivity will skyrocket
[06:00] <justinnfx> K, if I am going to install ubuntu do I have to resize the disk and put a swap/ext3 partion on it, or will it do it for me
[06:00] <nixternal> asobi: hrmm, I haven't even tried playing a CD with amarok in a while...what version of Kubuntu are you running?
[06:00] <doleyb> the installer is pretty automatic about that, you just have to say Yes
[06:00] <asobi> hardy
[06:00] <nixternal> justinnfx: if you dual boot, then you need to resize the partition
[06:01] <justinnfx> Can I just throw it on a USB and boot it from usb?
[06:01] <nixternal> hrmm, i can't remember back to hardy, been a while :)
[06:01] <justinnfx> even if i dont have a second hdrive
[06:01] <asobi> do i have to mount cd first?
[06:01] <nixternal> justinnfx: yes, there is that option as well, but it is much slower than having it installed on the machine
[06:01] <nixternal> asobi: kde3 or kde4?
[06:01] <asobi> 3
[06:01] <justinnfx> I need to reseive the partion?....b
[06:01] <nixternal> i remember kde3 used to pop up and ask you if you wanted to play the cd
[06:02] <justinnfx> I don't have to format it do I?
[06:02] <nixternal> justinnfx: if you dual boot, yes you have to resize it, it will get formatted during the installation process for you
[06:02] <asobi> it does
[06:02] <asobi> but amarok won't play it
[06:02] <nixternal> ahhh, OK
[06:02] <justinnfx> <--- iNSTALLING UBUNTU
[06:02] <asobi> unplayable
[06:02] <justinnfx> wait should i install kubuntu instead, or should i keep it easy since my first itme
[06:03] <nixternal> justinnfx: good luck :)  also, if you are going for Ubuntu and not Kubuntu, check out #ubuntu as well, they have like 3 or 4 times more people in there that could probably help you out better than I could right about now :)
[06:03] <nixternal> justinnfx: Kubuntu and Ubuntu will install pretty much the same way, just look a tad bit different...
[06:03] <justinnfx> K
[06:04] <justinnfx> thanks guys see you soon
[06:04] <nixternal> seeing as this is a Kubuntu channel, I would say Kubuntu of course, since I have been using KDE since 1997/1998, but I think since you are just starting out, you should probably try them both out eventually....maybe run them both from the LiveCD for a day or two and see which one you like best
[06:04] <nixternal> good luck justinnfx!
[06:04] <nixternal> I do not have 1 music cd anywhere near me
[06:04] <asobi> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=222629
[06:04] <nixternal> actually, the only CDs I have now are in my car
[06:05] <nixternal> I want to say that I have heard about this issue in the past
[06:05] <nixternal> and maybe even experienced it myself, I just can't remember
[06:05] <nixternal> ahh, a forum post.... /me looks
[06:05] <maco> music cds dont get mounted
[06:05] <maco> and amarok doesnt do cds
[06:05] <josh-l> what up dudes
[06:05] <maco> oh wait kde 3
[06:05] <maco> no idea what old amarok does
[06:05] <nixternal> hey, we are not all dudes in here :p
[06:06] <maco> thanks nixternal
[06:06] <nixternal> maco: the new amarok doesn't play CDs either?
[06:06] <josh-l> dudes and dudettes
[06:06] <maco> no
[06:06] <nixternal> haha, there are aliens too!
[06:06] <nixternal> wow, didn't know that
[06:06] <nixternal> then again, I only use Amarok to listen to heavy metal feeds on last.fm
[06:06] <asobi> Under Settings, check out the Engine tab and see what the default device is (running off old info, so it may not be exact)
[06:06] <asobi> try running "cat /etc/fstab" in your terminal and use whatever is listed as your cd-rom drive is the default
[06:06] <asobi> what engine tab?
[06:06] <maco> i installed sound juicer so i could rip a cd
[06:07] <nixternal> asobi: I think under the "Xine Engine" stuff that is in the old settings of Amarok
[06:07] <nixternal> trying to remember here
[06:07] <asobi> so where's new setting
[06:07] <maco> you dont have new amarok so it doesnt matter
[06:07] <maco> and well..new amarok doesnt do cds
[06:08] <nixternal> the old one did though
[06:08] <maco> but nixternal and i are both on the devel version and only have new amarok at our disposal
[06:08] <asobi> found it
[06:08] <asobi> already set to forum suggestion
[06:09] <nixternal> asobi: question, do the CDs play fine in Kaffeine or KSCD?
[06:09] <asobi> device node /dev/scd1
[06:09] <asobi> does that matter?
[06:09] <nixternal> hrmm..
[06:10] <asobi> no audio cd found by kaffeine
[06:10] <nixternal> asobi: no /dev/cdrom in there?
[06:10] <nixternal> I have /dev/scd0 and /dev/cdrom
[06:10] <asobi> amarok has /dev/cdrom
[06:10] <asobi> properties on cd has /dev/scd1
[06:10] <nixternal> it seems that fstab mounts scd0 as /media/cdrom for me
[06:11] <asobi> let me try other
[06:11] <nixternal> asobi: ls -l /dev/scd1
[06:11] <nixternal> does it point to sr0
[06:11] <nixternal> if so, I am willing to bet that /dev/cdrom points to the same place
[06:12] <asobi> not sure what you mean
[06:12] <nixternal> maybe try using /dev/sr0 and see if the linking might be an issue...just a suggestion
[06:12] <asobi> ?
[06:12] <nixternal> ls -l /dev/scd1
[06:12] <nixternal> nixternal@KaboWabo:~/opensource/ubuntu/bzr/KDE/kdegames$ ls -l /dev/scd0
[06:12] <nixternal> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2009-03-17 14:18 /dev/scd0 -> sr0
[06:12] <maco> asobi: if you do the ls l thing it'll show that with a -> and another /dev/ thing listed
[06:12] <nixternal> do you see something like that?
[06:12] <maco> yeah see the -> thing
[06:12] <nixternal> nixternal@KaboWabo:~/opensource/ubuntu/bzr/KDE/kdegames$ ls -l /dev/cdrom
[06:12] <nixternal> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2009-03-17 19:18 /dev/cdrom -> sr0
[06:13] <nixternal> see, cdrom and scd0 both point to /dev/sr0
[06:13] <nixternal> hrmm, wonder why I am in the kdegames directory
[06:13] <maco> asobi: do you have 2 optical drives?
[06:13] <asobi> yea
[06:13] <maco> nixternal: i would like to know why krunner and terminator  both start in ~/Documents
[06:13] <nixternal> oooh
[06:13] <maco> asobi: ah! thats why
[06:14] <asobi> ?
[06:14] <maco> nixternal's assuming that there's only 1 cd drive to chec
[06:14] <maco> you're looking at the wrong cd drive is all
[06:14] <nixternal> that is the same exact issue my brother had...he has a DVD Player and then a DVD/CD Burner
[06:14] <asobi> ok...
[06:14] <asobi> so?
[06:14] <nixternal> maco: good spot on that, I didnt' even catch the scd1
[06:15] <maco> you could put the cd in teh other drive
[06:15] <do0ot> Is there anyway to tell what kind of video card im runing from inside linux?
[06:15] <asobi> i tried
[06:15] <nixternal> howdy raphink!!! <><
[06:15] <asobi> still fails
[06:15] <nixternal> do0ot: lspci
[06:15] <maco> or change it to /dev/scd1 if its on /dev/scd0 or fvice versa
[06:15] <nixternal> then look for the video card
[06:15] <nixternal> do0ot: open up Konsole first, then type lspci of course
[06:15] <asobi> change what
[06:15] <asobi> and how
[06:16] <nixternal> asobi: leave the cdrom in one of the drives, and then change /dev/scd0 or 1 in Amarok like you did before
[06:16] <do0ot> M965/GL960 intergrated graphics controler
[06:16] <do0ot> ;/ is that bad?
[06:16] <nixternal> do0ot: Intel
[06:16] <asobi> oh
[06:16] <nixternal> do0ot: laptop?
[06:17] <nixternal> I love Intel, some people don't because they aren't hardcore NVIDIA or ATI gaming cards
[06:17] <do0ot> i want to install Xgl and Compiz ; yah nixternal its a 4 gig of ram , dual core 2ghz machine..
[06:17] <nixternal> but Intel + Linux == oh my heaven :)
[06:17] <nixternal> do0ot: all you have to do is install compiz
[06:17] <nixternal> do0ot: KDE3 or KDE4?
[06:17] <do0ot> 4.
[06:17] <maco> i love intel too
[06:17] <nixternal> ok, how compiz will work with KDE4 I have no idea
[06:17] <asobi> so i have to change it each time?
[06:17] <maco> i have that same graphics chip, i think
[06:18] <maco> compiz works with kde 4.2 on jaunty
[06:18] <nixternal> asobi: you shouldn't have to as long as you put the CD in the same slot everytime
[06:18] <nixternal> asobi: I am guessing that it worked?
[06:18] <maco> it was there for all of 2 minutes before i tried kwin's compositing
[06:18] <nixternal> I don't like Compiz, so I don't know :(
[06:18] <asobi> yes
[06:18] <do0ot> Maco - could you help me get it running?
[06:18] <asobi> thank you
[06:18] <nixternal> asobi: groovy!
[06:18] <maco> do0ot: no need for Xgl though
[06:18] <do0ot> I heard its really cool looking - I dont know ,
[06:18] <asobi> doesn't read tag ~_~
[06:18] <nixternal> do0ot: no cooler than what KDE4's compositing does
[06:18] <asobi> no big deal
[06:19] <maco> do0ot: Xgl was needed in the days before all the drivers got support for the hooks compiz needs
[06:19] <do0ot> Really? blah I want a k-rad looking desktop so people in coffee shops will be like 'WOW' heh
[06:19] <maco> do0ot: why's that blah?
[06:19] <nixternal> compiz always worked well for GNOME and I thought it was a bit garbage in KDE 3....KDE 4 I didn't even know would support that stuff
[06:19] <maco> xgl is no longer needed to make compiz work. i dont understand the blah.
[06:20] <do0ot> Maco - he said that its no cooler then what KDE4's compositing does.
[06:20] <maco> ah that
[06:20] <maco> it can do more, but most of it is get-in-the-way effects
[06:20] <do0ot> super fancy bells and whistels that are terrible
[06:20] <maco> the cube and the mac-Exposé-like thing....those are both there
[06:21] <nixternal> all I need is true transparency and I am good to go :)
[06:21] <do0ot> so apt-get install compiz
[06:21] <do0ot> pretty much
[06:21] <do0ot> ?
[06:21] <nixternal> do0ot: apt-get install compiz-kde
[06:22] <maco> yeah
[06:22] <maco> er ok that
[06:22] <nixternal> now what you do after that I have no idea
[06:22] <nixternal> hehe
[06:22] <maco> and get compizconfig-settings-manager and fusion-icon
[06:22] <nixternal> there used to be some sort of app to get it all working together
[06:22] <maco> ccsm is to configure all the effects
[06:22] <maco> and the fusion-icon you can add to startup so that you can easily switch between compiz and kwin
[06:23] <maco> i need to find a better snack than raw barley
[06:23] <do0ot> Wow thishas so many bells and whistles
[06:23] <do0ot> im gonna go smoke brb
[06:24] <maco> nixternal: can you teleport me some hummus and a non-meat, non-bread, non-carrot, non-celery dunkable?
[06:25] <nixternal> man, i read that as humans
[06:25] <nixternal> I was like, you want humans but no meat
[06:25] <nixternal> hummus, my only veggie food I am not the biggest fan of
[06:25] <nixternal> I am hooked on boca burgers..I use them in everything I cook now
[06:25] <maco> lol
[06:26] <nixternal> just stick your finger in the hummus and scoop it out
[06:26] <maco> well i need the hummus too
[06:26] <nixternal> then again, that goes against the "non-meat"
[06:26] <nixternal> sudo apt-get me some hummus
[06:27] <maco> note the teleport request
[06:27] <nixternal> 2>/dev/null though on that one
[06:27] <nixternal> sudo apt-teleport hummus 2>/dev/null
[06:27] <nixternal> that way there you get the hummus, but now the container..I don't know :)
[06:27] <maco> mind if i use your kitchen to make lentil burgers some time? i'll share them.
[06:27] <maco> mmm lentil burgers
[06:28] <nixternal> mmm lentils! anytime
[06:28] <nixternal> though, living in this little box here, I really don't have a kitchen
[06:28] <maco> bah, thats my issue too
[06:28] <nixternal> hot plate ftw!
[06:28] <maco> doh i forgot you're not one of the locals
[06:28] <nixternal> lol
[06:29] <nixternal> ya, Chicago is just 800 mils from DC
[06:29] <maco> wonder if i still have a pic of how tiny my kitchen is sitting up on a server...
[06:29] <justinnfx> back
[06:30] <noren> hi all
[06:30] <justinnfx> 50% installating
[06:30] <justinnfx> intalllation*
[06:30] <maco> nixternal: two soup bowls, 1 cutting board, and 1 bread knife: my sink is full. oh, and one of those bowls isnt actually *in* the sink
[06:30] <nixternal> hahaha
[06:30] <justinnfx> I had someone who was going to walk me through the install but hes gone :-(
[06:31] <maco> nixternal is still here...
[06:31] <maco> ive never installed kubuntu from a live cd
[06:31] <noren> justinnfx: : whats the prob
[06:31] <nixternal> oh man, 01:30...I need to eat one more snack, watch tv for about 1.5 hours, then fall asleep
[06:31] <maco> so i'm taking a step away
[06:31] <justinnfx> I was going to sign on with my HTPC currenty running win xp, and he was going to run me through the step to customize
[06:31] <do0ot> Ok - these extras for the window manager == blah++
[06:31] <nixternal> sit ups yet....argh!!!
[06:31] <nixternal> g'nite all
[06:31] <do0ot> im gonna go find an NES emulator
[06:31] <do0ot> or try to
[06:31] <do0ot> any recomendations?
[06:31] <maco> by rich
[06:31] <maco> *bye
[06:32] <noren> jussi01: : installing kubuntu ??
[06:32] <noren> justinnfx: installing kubuntu
[06:33] <chronos> Has anyone been having stability issues lately? I updated my Intrepid and when I did, programs have started randomly crashing, disappearing, etc.  What gives?
[06:49] <justinnfx> How come I have 80gb space free, but win is only letting me shrink to get 4gb free space?
[06:55] <doleyb> justinnfx: I wonder if you needed to defrag? nah..
[06:56] <justinnfx> defrag
[06:56] <justinnfx> how long will that take
[07:10] <cerecitas> morning... does anyone  know how to setup skype audio on ubuntu? i've been digging in google but nothing has worked... i listen all the sounds but the micro won't record (micro is not  muted i already checked the mixer)
[07:10] <felix_> kubuntu en español
[07:10] <felix_> como me uno a kubuntu en español
[07:10] <cerecitas> felix_: probablemente #kubuntu-es
[07:11] <huang> hello
[07:13] <justinnfx> Ok I used Paragon and I ended up making the unlocated space at the end 75gb in size.  Will ubuntu install from the unlocated space while doing dual boot?
[07:14] <cerecitas> justinnfx:  you will have to select in which space you want to install the os just ask it to install in there
[07:14] <cerecitas> i have it in my "second partition" and works
[07:15] <justinnfx> Shiiiit paragon partioner did not work it said it wont work with 64 sytem
[07:16] <justinnfx> How did you install it
[07:16] <justinnfx> Did you have to shrink the first volume first too make space for the second
[07:16] <cerecitas> hmmm justinnfx i now only have 1 system but before my windows was in the first space
[07:17] <cerecitas> when you run the installation will ask you where to install
[07:17] <cerecitas> just install where suits you better
[07:17] <justinnfx> what if you have only one big partion
[07:17] <justinnfx> do you need to split it up firt
[07:17] <cerecitas> yes, filesystems are different for windows and linux
[07:17] <cerecitas> you need to split it
[07:17] <justinnfx> how did you split it up
[07:18] <cerecitas> the tool to install does it on its own
[07:18] <justinnfx> oh so you dont have to use windows and shrink your current hdrive
[07:18] <cerecitas> hmmm nope i didnt do it that way
[07:18] <cerecitas> run the live cd
[07:18] <cerecitas> and there is all you need
[07:18] <justinnfx> because i tried doing it and it only gave me 4gb and i have like 80gb free!
[07:19] <cerecitas> in the install icon, the tool will do everything
[07:19] <justinnfx> someone said i first have to make room for it :-(
[07:19] <justinnfx> so i waisted all this time deleting stuff
[07:19] <justinnfx> how long does it take to defrag a disk someone said that would make the disk shirink better?
[07:20] <cerecitas> hmm depends on how many data and how big is the disk
[07:20] <cerecitas> not the same 30 than 300 gb
[07:21] <noren> justinnfx: use the guided install it will install in the free space available
[07:21] <cerecitas> jup
[07:21] <justinnfx> i wont have to worry about there not being enough space
[07:21] <justinnfx> cause i can only squeeze about 4 gb out if when i shrink it
[07:21] <justinnfx> OK
[07:22] <justinnfx> i hope i dont screw up my pc valuable stuff one there
[07:22] <cerecitas> hmmm
[07:22] <cerecitas> justinnfx:
[07:22] <cerecitas> make a backup... if you have valuable data, back it up
[07:23] <justinnfx> .great i think i ran out of black CD too
[07:23] <justinnfx> oh joy
[07:24] <noren> justinnfx: : what is the prob exactly, do u want it to have multiboot with windows
[07:24] <justinnfx> i have two large thumnb drives
[07:25] <justinnfx> YES!
[07:27] <justinnfx> whait i found a cd = rW i think
[07:27] <ahdach> hay everey body
[07:31] <beardbar> hey guys, I have a card reader in my computer, any thoughts on how I can install it? doesnt seem to auto detect when I put a sd flash card in from my camera.
[07:35] <cerecitas> noren:  i think he wants a dual boot with windows and kubuntu
[07:36] <zeltak> hi guys..i know its a bit off topic but does anyone have any experience using 1.5TB on ubuntu?
[07:39] <noren> cerecitas: : then whats the prob does he not have enough free space
[07:40] <noren> zeltak: 1.5 TB ??
[07:40] <zeltak> hi
[07:41] <zeltak> thx for answering noren, no the problem is that fdisk (and other utils) only see the drive as a 500GB HD
[07:41] <zeltak> while it is a 1.5 TB drive (i have 4 of those for a RAID setup)
[07:42] <cerecitas> hmm noren i think the prob is that he's not really sure on how to do it
[07:42] <cerecitas> he was talking of 75gb of unallocated space
[07:42] <magnus_> excuse me, I am new to Linux Kubuntu/ubuntu or any other, but I am currently on Kubuntu now
[07:43] <magnus_> Ive never understood the installation parts yet
[07:43] <noren> cerecitas: a guided install in the free space would have been sufficient, and there would have not been any data loss also
[07:43] <noren> magnus_: what doo u want to know
[07:43] <cerecitas> well not necesarily noren but i personally prefer to backup just in case.
[07:43] <magnus_> well, when i download files
[07:43] <cerecitas> i have lost data  few times already
[07:43] <magnus_> for instance i just downloaded firefox
[07:43] <magnus_> and it ends up in my home folder, documents
[07:43] <magnus_> fair enough
[07:43] <magnus_> but
[07:43] <magnus_> how do i then install it?
[07:44] <magnus_> its just there, and there is no setup file
[07:44] <noren> cerecitas: well may be but i never did !! :)
[07:44] <cerecitas> hehe just in case dun want anyone yelling at me because he lost stuff ;p first advice, backup then proceed hihi
[07:44] <noren> magnus_: Type sudo apt-get install firefox << in Konsole
[07:45] <cerecitas> noren:  do you have any idea of the precise name of the package to install to listen mp3?
[07:45] <noren> cerecitas: yes its always the best choice than to regret afterwrd
[07:45] <noren> cerecitas: i use amarok
[07:45] <magnus_> thx noren
[07:45] <maco> magnus_: easiest way to install stuff is to open teh menu and type "adept" in the search box
[07:46] <magnus_> aha "the package manager" file?
[07:46] <cerecitas> i dunno someone is having a weird issue and i think it's a codecs question
[07:46] <maco> noren: kubuntu-restricted-extras gets all the patented crap
[07:46] <maco> magnus_: yes
[07:46] <noren> magnus_: maco : is right u can use adept its gui for installing new softwares
[07:46] <maco> magnus_: you check off whwat you want, and itll download and install it all for you
[07:47] <noren> cerecitas: who ?? ask him/her to install kubuntu extra rep
[07:48] <cerecitas> restricted extras?
[07:48] <cerecitas> already did
[07:48] <magnus_> hmm well, im in Adept now
[07:48] <magnus_> and at the search tab
[07:48] <magnus_> interface, role, use, and undercategories, and it says "not" behind each of them
[07:49] <magnus_> am i then at the right tab?
[07:49] <maco> (note: ive never *used* adept because i'm using the development version, where adept has been replaced....plus, i use the command line for most things)
[07:49] <noren> magnus_: Type sudo apt-get install firefox << in Konsole wud hav been easiest
[07:49] <maco> *snort*
[07:49] <magnus_> aha okey
[07:49] <magnus_> but what about next time when i download another file
[07:49] <maco> but easiest for future reference when you dont know the package name is to use adept
[07:49] <magnus_> i just type sudo apt-get install (program) ?
[07:50] <maco> you dont need to download instalrs on your own
[07:50] <magnus_> aha
[07:50] <maco> sudo apt-get install ____ will download & install for you. it's what adept uses in its backend
[07:50] <noren> magnus_: it will download and install of its own u wont have to downloaad it separatly
[07:50] <magnus_> aha i see
[07:51] <magnus_> hmm i got an error after that command
[07:51] <noren> magnus_: in adept go to the search and type firefox >> u will see the files on the right side and frm there u can install
[07:51] <maco> exit adept before using apt-get in the command line
[07:51] <magnus_> aha
[07:52] <magnus_> "package firefox is not available, but is referred to another package. This may mean... etc
[07:53] <noren> anyone using vlc here, i got issue with the sound it wont come
[07:53] <magnus_> package firefox has no installation candidate
[07:53] <magnus_> what did i do wrong?
[07:54] <noren> magnus_: open adept >> go to source list>> activate the repos>>
[07:55] <magnus_> noren , at the source tab?
[07:56] <magnus_> "edit software sources"
[07:56] <magnus_> fetch current package lists"
[07:56] <noren> yes >>
[07:56] <magnus_> those are the two possibilities
[07:57] <noren> edit source tab >> activate the multiverse
[07:57] <noren> cerecitas: maca :  sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg << for mp3 support only
[07:57] <cerecitas> noren:  i use vlc
[07:58] <cerecitas> maca? hehe
[07:58] <noren> cerecitas: are u getting sound in vlc... which distro and version are u using
[07:59] <cerecitas> hmmm i've never had problems with vlc... i'm using kubuntu 8.10.. and the vlc version give me a sec and i will tell you
[07:59] <magnus_> noren , im sorry for not completely understanding, but im in the edit now, and i can find no multiverse to tag on or off
[07:59] <cerecitas> is the 0.9.4
[08:00] <noren> magnus_: u in the edit software package... what option do u see
[08:01] <noren> cerecitas: i  meant kubuntu 8.10 or else,,, i cant get my sound working in it
[08:01] <cerecitas> hmmmm anything at all?
[08:01] <magnus_> noren there are 5 tabs
[08:01] <cerecitas> i can screenshot you my settings
[08:01] <cerecitas> give me a sec
[08:02] <noren> magnus_: the 4 th one says software restricted by copyright or legal issue << check this one
[08:03] <magnus_> noren it is already checked, should i check it off ?
[08:03] <noren> magnus_: in the Kubuntu Software
[08:04] <noren> magnus_: no it sud be chekced on now close that and come out >>>Adept will rub an auto update
[08:04] <cerecitas> noren:  http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/8130/vlc.png
[08:04] <magnus_> noren hmm strange, because it was already checked on
[08:05] <noren> did it update.... now go in the search otion in the adept and type firrefox
[08:06] <magnus_> noren its updating, but just standing still though
[08:06] <magnus_> i turned it off, then on again, and then closed it for it to update with it on
[08:06] <magnus_> and now its just kinda stuck.
[08:07] <noren> it will update
[08:07] <magnus_> ah yes, it started now
[08:07] <magnus_> does it say finished when its done?
[08:07] <noren> let is compelete and then go to the search bar and find firefox
[08:08] <magnus_> Alright
[08:08] <noren> wen it finish other options will get activated
[08:08] <magnus_> aha i see
[08:08] <magnus_> are there many sites not able to open with konqueror btw?
[08:08] <magnus_> i noticed when i was trying to enter facebook, that it didnt work.
[08:09] <magnus_> and I read at the start, it said that it might not work out with several pages
[08:09] <noren> cerecitas: i think u are using the older version of vlc
[08:09] <magnus_> So is it normal to use a second web browser like mozilla /opera etc when you use kubuntu?
[08:09] <cerecitas> hmmm no idea noren the one in the repos
[08:10] <cerecitas> magnus_:  i dunno if it is normal, i only use mozilla...not really fond of konqueror
[08:10] <magnus_> cerecitas aha I see, kind of wanted to try out konqueror considering im using mozilla on my vista computer
[08:10] <noren> i use konq and opera,i dont like firefox its too heavy application
[08:11] <cerecitas> opera i've  never tried, is in the repos  noren?
[08:11] <noren> yes i guess i got the latest one from the opera site
[08:12] <cerecitas> hmmm can't find the browser
[08:12] <cerecitas> will pick it from the website
[08:13] <noren> !opera | cerecitas
[08:13] <cerecitas> thx
[08:14] <magnus_> noren it still doesnt work, it got finished and said there was no packages etc, and then i went to the search tab and typed firefox, and it looked like nothing happened
[08:14] <magnus_> and nothing came up
[08:14] <noren> !firefox | magnus_
[08:15] <noren> magnus_: its strange
[08:15] <noren> close the adept and come to the konsole
[08:15] <cerecitas> magnus_: this can look offensive but thats not what i intend... something happens... after typing the name, i take it you hit enter, right?
[08:16] <magnus_> cerecitas hehe np, yeah i do
[08:16] <cerecitas> ok... is the kind of things i forget sometimes :p
[08:17] <magnus_> noren shall i try to do the install in the console again?
[08:17] <noren> yes : : sudo apt-get update
[08:19] <nyad> hello im running KDE4, and I just installed compiz but none of the effects are working
[08:19] <nyad> if I install kde desktop effects they work but not he
[08:19] <nyad> the compiz ones
[08:20] <noren> nyad: kd4 has its own composting
[08:20] <cerecitas> do you have opengl as engine?
[08:20] <noren> !compiz | nyad
[08:20] <magnus_> noren "unable to connect to security.ubuntu..com"
[08:21] <noren> apt-cache search  firefox
[08:21] <nyad> yes I have opengl as engine
[08:22] <nyad> noren i dont want kde4s effects, i want compiz
[08:23] <noren> nyad: see #compiz-fusion if they can help
[08:23] <nyad> k
[08:24] <cerecitas> ok noren opera looks nice but it looks like i will have to set it up a bit
[08:25] <cerecitas> and it's almost time to get ready for another day at work *sigh*
[08:25] <magnus_> cerecitas heh, already at place so dont complain :)
[08:25] <cerecitas> well i wish i'd have irc access there hehe
[08:25] <cerecitas> anyway i hate this shift starting at 10.30
[08:26] <magnus_> heheh
[08:26] <cerecitas> it's a disaster
[08:26] <noren> magnus_: apt-cache search  firefox
[08:26] <magnus_> noren ive tried that in terminal, nothing happens
[08:28] <noren> i think the repos are not checked correctly<< if u can go back to the adept >> source >> kubuntu software>> activate all of them.. it will start showing
[08:28] <cerecitas> sudo apt-cache search firefox maybe
[08:28] <fliegenderfrosch> cerecitas: apt-cache doesn’t need root privileges
[08:29] <magnus_> noren there was only one not checked on the kubuntu software, and that was the source code
[08:29] <cerecitas> oh true my bad
[08:29] <cerecitas> anyways shower time and 8.5h in jail
[08:29] <cerecitas> oh joy
[08:30] <magnus_> heheh, have fun
[08:30] <noren> magnus_: well the source pakages are not completly updated than>> sudo apt-get update
[08:30] <cerecitas> yeah or 'something'
[08:31] <magnus_> noren aha okey, will do, do you want me to check the source code? or let it stay unchecked before i do the update?
[08:31] <ActionParsnip1> yo yo yo
[08:31] <noren> ActionParsnip1: can u help magnus get firefox
[08:32] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install firefox
[08:32] <ActionParsnip1> ?
[08:32] <noren> ActionParsnip1: i thinks his update is exiting with an error
[08:33] <magnus_> its updating about 5 lines of some language stuff, and it says failed behind each
[08:33] <fliegenderfrosch> magnus_: which error do you get if you execute the command given by ActionParsnip1?
[08:33] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: can you pastebin te output of that command please
[08:33] <cerecitas> didn't he mention before he was unable to connect to security. something?
[08:33] <magnus_> yeah
[08:34] <cerecitas> [09:20] <magnus_> noren "unable to connect to security.ubuntu..com"
[08:34] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: if you cant web browse then copy the text to a file then use pastebinit
[08:34] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:35] <magnus_> done
[08:35] <magnus_> the ping part
[08:36] <mni> i need help
[08:36] <magnus_> actionparsnip1 just keep in mind that im really new to kubuntu, so i dont really know alot, so you kind of gotta say it the easy "newb" way
[08:36] <mni> i made some translation to my native language
[08:36] <mni> and i want to test it
[08:36] <mni> and see
[08:36] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: do you know how to ping in windows?
[08:37] <fliegenderfrosch> mni: if you state your problem in a single line it’s more likely to get answered
[08:37] <mni> any help on how to do it?
[08:37] <cerecitas> well now it is the time... see you and have a nice day
[08:37] <magnus_> actionparsnip1 hmm, I dont know, I guess not, but im at internet on the school, might there be some blocks or something preventing me from getting the updates?
[08:38] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: in terminal type: ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:38] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: and press enter
[08:38] <magnus_> actionparsnip1 yeah i did
[08:38] <noren> magnus_: that might be the prob.........
[08:38] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: does it reply?
[08:39] <magnus_> actionparsnip1  it goes "64 bytes from <ip> etc
[08:39] <magnus_> and that refreshes down all the time
[08:39] <magnus_> I guess thats not the reply im supposed to get
[08:39] <magnus_> noren im connected down at the office, which is not through the "studentnetwork" but more like a normal internet
[08:40] <magnus_> and with cable, so i dont really know if thats gonna restrict me
[08:40] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: the reply should look something like this: 64 bytes from <IP_ADDRESS>: icmp_seq=2 ttl=54 time=15.4 ms
[08:40] <magnus_> yes it does
[08:41] <mni> i want to test my translated files,any help on procedures?
[08:41] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: ok then the system is failing dns
[08:41] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: gksudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf
[08:42] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: http://www.tech-faq.com/public-dns-servers.shtml
[08:42] <noren> !translation
[08:42] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: add a few lines in there that are formatted like this: nameserver <ip address>
[08:42] <fliegenderfrosch> mni: could you give some more detail? what kind of translated files are they? how do you want to test them?
[08:42] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: you just pinged security.ubuntu.com which mean the logical connection is there but your system isnt changing the name to the ip
[08:43] <magnus_> actionparsnip1 aha
[08:43] <magnus_> when i tried the gksudo command in terminal
[08:43] <ActionParsnip1> ooops
[08:43] <magnus_> it said "the program is not installd"
[08:44] <ActionParsnip1> kdesudo kate /etc/resolv.conf
[08:44] <ActionParsnip1> i switch between #ubuntu and #kubuntu and get confused ;)
[08:44] <mni> kde.po files into hausa language,i want to run them on my kubuntu and see the translated interface
[08:44] <magnus_> actionparsnip1 hehe, np, now i got something
[08:45] <magnus_> actionparsnip1 now i got 3 nameservers
[08:45] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: cool, ok you see how it says: nameserver <some ip>
[08:45] <magnus_> actionparsnip1 yeah, there are 3 different ips
[08:45] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: use the link I gave you to add some more, as many as you wish, when you add the last one, press enter on the end of the last line
[08:45] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: add more
[08:46] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: from that site
[08:46] <fliegenderfrosch> magnus_: ping security.ubuntu.com doesn’t work?
[08:46] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:46] <noren> mni: #ubuntu-doc  try here
[08:46] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:47] <magnus_> actionparsnip1 both of them are added
[08:48] <noren> ActionParsnip1: thats why i use opendns << its way better
[08:48] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: ok, press enter on the last line to terminate the line, save the file and exit
[08:49] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: now in terminal again: ping security.ubuntu.com
[08:49] <magnus_> actionparsnip1 done
[08:49] <noren> ActionParsnip1: does he not have to restart the network ??
[08:50] <ActionParsnip1> noren: dont think so but we'll see
[08:50] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: does it reply as before with the ip address
[08:51] <mni> noren:ok
[08:51] <magnus_> auckland.canoncial..com (ip adress) and the ms and time stuf
[08:52] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: ok now try: sudo apt-get update
[08:52] <noren> PING security.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data.
[08:52] <noren> 64 bytes from auckland.canonical.com (<IP_ADDRESS>): icmp_seq=1 ttl=51 time=2996 ms
[08:53] <ActionParsnip1> sweet
[08:53] <pacheko> espa;ol
[08:53] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: does the apt-get update run through ok?
[08:53] <ActionParsnip1> !es
[08:53] <magnus_> actionparsnip1 just started it now
[08:53] <magnus_> actionparsnip1 is it supposde to go down pretty fast?
[08:54] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: as fast as your connection willallow
[08:54] <magnus_> because its stuck at the first line for a long time
[08:54] <magnus_> at connection to security
[08:54] <magnus_> connecting*
[08:54] <magnus_> and at 0%
[08:55] <noren> magnus_: it will connect and downlaod the source list frm there
[08:55] <magnus_> unable to connect to security.ubuntu.com
[08:55] <magnus_> again
[08:59] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: try this:
[08:59] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: sudo /etc/init/d/networking restart; sudo apt-get update
[09:01] <magnus_> actionparsnip1 : during the writing i got warning program /bin/bash crashed
[09:02] <magnus_> actionparsnip1 hmm, it says unknown command
[09:02] <magnus_> actionparsnip1 : sudo /etc/init/d/networking restart , right?
[09:03] <ActionParsnip1> no
[09:03] <ActionParsnip1> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[09:03] <ActionParsnip1> my bad
[09:04] <magnus_> actionparsnip1 ok, it ran through
[09:04] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: ok now run: sudo apt-get update
[09:05] <ederico> hello, how do I stream MMS in Kubuntu 8.10. I have KDE 4.2
[09:06] <noren> !mms
[09:07] <noren> !avi | ederico
[09:07] <magnus_> actionparsnip1 still unable to connect unfortunately
[09:08] <nihility> Does anyone know how to make Kubuntu remember window positions and sizes?
[09:09] <ActionParsnip1> nihility: try ctrl+shift when you click X to close the window
[09:10] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: you could go hardcore and change all the names in your sources.lst to ip addresses to see if thats better
[09:10] <nihility> ActionParsnip1 - Does this have to happen everytime a window is lose?
[09:10] <nihility> Closed
[09:10] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: the fact that you can ping the ip is good as the logical link exists
[09:10] <ActionParsnip1> nihility: i think that sets it forever more
[09:11] <nihility> Ouch.... Ok thanks for the help!
[09:11] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: and you said you get replys from: ping security.ubuntu.com
[09:11] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: is that right?
[09:12] <magnus_> actionparsnip1 yes if i remember right, Ill try again and check
[09:12] <ActionParsnip1> cool
[09:12] <fliegenderfrosch> Does anyone know when we can expect new Digikam packages?
[09:12] <magnus_> actionparsnip1 : yes i do
[09:12] <ActionParsnip1> if you aget replys then dns is doing its job translating the name to an ip
[09:13] <ActionParsnip1> so there is something blocking the data. are you on a home network or corporate?
[09:14] <magnus_> actionparsnip1 I am working on a school this week, as an IT-apprentice
[09:15] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: maybe they are blocking the traffic, smart admins do that sort of thin
[09:15] <ActionParsnip1> g
[09:16] <magnus_> actionparsnip1 yeah but this is the school for the age of 14-16, and thisn etwork is not very strict, i know that
[09:17] <magnus_> actionparsnip1 and im connected directly to the internet if im not mistaken, with a cable, and not through the school network
[09:17] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: if you are connected to the scholl infrastructure yuo will be using their connection
[09:18] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: can you web browse ok?
[09:18] <Yves_> webkitkde got quite some commits the last days, could a newer version be uploaded to jaunty ? :-)
[09:18] <wangwei> shen
[09:19] <dd> 这是什么
[09:19] <dd> 没人回答么
[09:19] <bazhang> dd english here
[09:19] <bazhang> dd #ubuntu-cn for chinese
[09:20] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: if te place uses a proxy for web (likely) you will need to cofigure yuor system to use that
[09:21] <magnus_> actionparsnip1 yeah i have to use proxy settings to web browse
[09:22] <magnus_> actionparsnip1 well i just talked to my supervisor here, and he said that I shouldnt be blocked by anything, but there might be a reason that the system that constructs the firewall on this school might make it a bit harder for me
[09:22] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: then you will need that for apt-get too
[09:22] <magnus_> actionparsnip1 to type in the proxy you mean?
[09:23] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: sudo export http_proxy=http://myproxy:port
[09:23] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: change that to fit your settings
[09:24] <magnus_> actionparsnip1 : so i am to type the command "sudo export http_proxy=http://proxyip:proxyport?
[09:24] <noren> ActionParsnip1: wow  i never thought installing firefox wud be so intense :D
[09:24] <magnus_> in terminal?
[09:24] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: its not, you just have network complexities
[09:24] <aaron> TEST
[09:25] <ActionParsnip1> !test | aaron
[09:25] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: if you were on a hom lan it would work fine
[09:25] <noren> aaron:  TEST BACK
[09:25] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: you need to specify the port and address of your http proxy
[09:25] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: in that command
[09:25] <magnus_> actionparsnip1 aha okey, Im taking the computer home tomorrow, so I can try it at home then?
[09:26] <magnus_> actionparsnip1 then the network wont be in my way I suppose
[09:26] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: i have nearly 0 chance of knowing wjat your proxy name is or what port it uses so you have to fill out those bits of information in the command
[09:26] <magnus_> actionparsnip1 yes, will do
[09:26] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: absolutely as you will be in a different network
[09:27] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: schools like to have HTTP proxies to watch what kids look at so you have to go through the same connection
[09:28] <magnus_> actionparsnip1 : aha I see
[09:29] <magnus_> actionparsnip1 well, with this network problem I will continue tomorrow, or else i probably will have loads of problems removing the proxy so it works at home etc etc
[09:29] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: at the moment your system is accessing the default gateway but the data is not addressed to the proxy for external forwarding so it is dropped
[09:29] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: possibly
[09:30] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: i think you just export the proxy as "" and its fine
[09:31] <magnus_> actionparsnip1 : aha, well, Ill continue that small issue at home, I got loads of other things that i cant handle that i can look at now, considering this is my first time trying out kubuntu
[09:32] <ScorpKing> i made a servicemenu to resize and ftp files to a website. here it is - http://paste.ubuntu.com/132929/ - is see that it will only process files in the home directory of the user. if you go to any other picture that is in a few sub directories nothing happens. any idea how to fix it? where can i improve on this script?
[09:32] <magnus_> and i wanna learn alot, because I want to continue using it, so i just gotta learn piece by piece I guess
[09:32] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: well you will have learned a lot today
[09:34] <noren> magnus_: u will always find help here
[09:34] <magnus_> yeah and thats great, think the idea of this channel is awesome
[09:36] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: theres ##windows too
[09:36] <magnus_> actionparsnip1 : is that the help channel for windows users?
[09:36] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: indeed
[09:37] <magnus_> actionparsnip1 : well, windows is alot easier to learn, and most people grow up with it, Linux is alot harder in my opinion, when i installed it and started it up it felt like i didnt know anything
[09:37] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: you only say its harder as you have far more experience with windows
[09:37] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: i dont think its any harder at all
[09:37] <husayn_> thats right !!! 100%
[09:38] <magnus_> actionparsnip1 : yeah thats true.
[09:38] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: compare the time you have used windows to how long you have used linux
[09:38] <husayn_> RHCE is just equal to MCSE if you see... but people say RHCE is tought , all because you havnt worked on linux much
[09:38] <noren__> ActionParsnip1: i need help with vlc and sound ??
[09:39] <magnus_> actionparsnip1 : yeah a huge difference, grew up with windows 95 and then tried my way up to vista, so I guess the difference is quite huge in my usage of linux and windows
[09:39] <noren__> magnus_: any other software to install
[09:40] <magnus_> noren hmm well, I dont know much of anything really, so i dont know where to begin to ask you questions im afraid.
[09:40] <ActionParsnip1> noren__: just make sure the sound system is free and that vlc is using the right one (alsa / pulse)
[09:40] <noren__> ActionParsnip1: my dragon player works fine also amarok but not vlc
[09:41] <paracetamolo1> hello
[09:41] <paracetamolo1> sorry to bother you
[09:41] <paracetamolo1> but I got a serious problem
[09:42] <paracetamolo1> korganizer lost my calendar
[09:42] <paracetamolo1> I believe it was an error of Akonadi
[09:42] <ActionParsnip1> noren__: try renaming some or all of these files: http://paste.ubuntu.com/132932/
[09:42] <ActionParsnip1> noren__: and try reinstalling vlc
[09:45] <noren__> how to determine which one i am having alsa or pulse
[09:46] <ActionParsnip1> !sound
[09:47] <magnus_> actionparsnip1 : when I installed linux, i had 3 separate disks, but it only installed one the largest one
[09:48] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: ok....
[09:48] <magnus_> actionparsnip1 : but i want to format the 2 other disks aswell, so i can use them as storage, because this computer im gonna use as storage, and then i would like to use all 3 disks
[09:48] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: kdesudo gparted
[09:48] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: you can format the drives and partition as you see fit ith that
[09:49] <magnus_> actionparsnip1 : aha okey, because i just want to get to use the 2 other disks as storage aswell, since they are not used as anything atm
[09:50] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: thats fine, get them setup as you need. you may need to edit /etc/fstab to make them automount. I think gparted does that stuff for you. i'm not sure
[09:53] <magnus_> actionparsnip1 : when i typed in the command it said "command not foudn"
[09:53] <magnus_> actionparsnip1 : found*
[09:54] <seku> sudo aptitude install gparted kdesudo
[09:54] <seku> after that retry
[09:55] <ActionParsnip1> seku: he cant apt-get or aptitude as he is behind a proxy
[09:55] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: if you boot to live cd you can setu pthe disks from there
[09:55] <seku> change sources.list to use ftp?
[09:57] <seku> well, fdisk is always there and mkfs
[09:57] <seku> or cfdisk
[09:58] <ScorpKing> paracetamolo1: look in ~/.kde/share/apps/ somewhere. it might be there
[09:58] <paracetamolo1> I looked in apps/korganizer/
[09:58] <paracetamolo1> there is an std.ics
[09:59] <paracetamolo1> that has few entries, made by me ages ago
[09:59] <paracetamolo1> where does akonadi stores data?
[10:01] <seku> whats that music player mimicing xmms?
[10:02] <seku> audacious
[10:02] <seku> thanks seku
[10:07] <seku> stupid question. Does mplayer navigate dvd menus? I don't see it linked against libdvdnav
[10:10] <SlimeyPete> yes, it does
[10:11] <ActionParsnip1> !xmms
[10:12] <seku> what does c status mean in front of a package?
[10:15] <noren____> !xmms2
[10:18] <seku> how do i reinvoke the nvidia driver installer? I full-upgraded, and now they just lie around borked :D
[10:19] <magnus_> actionparsnip1 : do all the drivers automatically install when i install kubuntu?
[10:20] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: drivers for what?
[10:20] <magnus_> actionparsnip1 : for everything really, all the hardware
[10:20] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: if they are on the cd or the hardware is supported by the kernel then yes
[10:20] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: a lot of hardware will need extra config
[10:21] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: you can lessen this by buying off the HCL. I do and all my hardware works out of the box
[10:21] <magnus_> actionparsnip1 : aha okey, because I built a computer here, with old parts, just to get a storage machine, so I dont got any driver cds, so i just wondered if linux found the drivers and installed them by itself
[10:21] <seku> kde with 8.10 was too buggy (nvidia propiertaty driver), so i had to upgrade to development version (which went not so fine, but then again i didn't read any instructions either).
[10:21] <ActionParsnip1> magnus_: if its old it will most likely work ok
[10:22] <magnus_> actionparsnip1 : okey, thanks
[10:35] <seku> how do i install automagically the nvidia drivers again? System -> drivers just says my system doesn't have closed drivers. Searching for nvidia gives a dozen diffirent packages split arbitarily (package for each function?)
[10:39] <ActionParsnip1> seku: what is the output of: lspci | grep -i vga
[10:39] <seku> how do i get all sources headers and stuff related to 2.6.27-11-generic?
[10:39] <seku> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72 [GeForce 7300 SE] (rev a1)
[10:39] <seku> im using the nv driver now
[10:41] <ActionParsnip1> seku: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-177; sudo nvidia-xconfig
[10:41] <seku> thanks
[10:42] <seku> couldn't find such a thing
[10:42] <ActionParsnip1> seku: sudo apt-get update first
[10:42] <seku> just 5 minutes ago
[10:42] <ActionParsnip1> seku: you will need the restricted repos enabling
[10:42] <ActionParsnip1> !nvidia-glx-177
[10:43] <ActionParsnip1> !info nvidia-glx-177
[10:43] <seku> deb http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty main restricted
[10:43] <seku> deb-src http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty restricted main multiverse universe #Added by software-properties
[10:43] <ActionParsnip1> !jaunty | seku
[10:44] <seku> ok, thanks. 8.10 was unusable because of kde, so i pulled jaunty
[10:45] <seku> ffs, im just installing it by hand. easiest that way
[10:45] <ActionParsnip1> seku: jaunty isnt supported here
[11:14] <ur8up> ? about kubuntu freezes after a night of just sitting
[11:17] <ActionParsnip1> !ask | ur8up
[11:19] <ur8up> i am running kubuntu and when I try to log in the next day my keyboard is dead.  Mouse works but keyboard doesnt
[11:20] <ActionParsnip1> ur8up: can you ssh in from another pc?
[11:28] <ur8up> dont know.  I will try that tomorrow
[11:29] <ur8up> it could be a hardware issue.  I have a kvm switch hooked up
[11:29] <ActionParsnip1> ur8up: try switch the kvm back and forth
[11:30] <BUGabundo> hi everyone
[11:30] <bazhang> hi
[11:31] <BUGabundo> I just would like to ask you guys/gals to point any user wishing to upgrade to jaunty
[11:31] <BUGabundo> to visit #ubuntu+1
[11:31] <BUGabundo> so they can get all the tips before doing the crazy jump
[11:31] <BUGabundo> thanks
[11:31] <bazhang> we do :)
[11:31] <bazhang> they dont always listen though :)
[11:31] <BUGabundo> bazhang: I guess you do
[11:31] <BUGabundo> but some seem to get not so acured info
[11:32] <BUGabundo> at least one user just pop up there
[11:32] <BUGabundo> that got a wrong advise on how to upgrade
[11:32] <BUGabundo> thanks!
[11:32] <maco> dude, !enter
[11:32] <bazhang> heh
[11:35] <neptune> hello guys
[11:35] <neptune> i just installed kde
[11:36] <neptune> and i clicked "delete" on the desktop view
[11:36] <neptune> how do i restore it back?
[11:36] <maco> BUGabundo: i just looked up irc logs
[11:37] <neptune> guys... anyone?
[11:38] <improot_> neptune: Change user and reboot system ))
[11:38] <neptune> improot i tryed loging out and in but didn't work
[11:38] <neptune> i am the only uer so i can't change user
[11:39] <improot_> neptune: )))) sory ))) 5 sec...
[11:39] <maco> BUGabundo: i disconnected. did you get that?
[11:40] <improot_> neptune: kde - version ?
[11:40] <neptune> 4.1
[11:41] <wers> i just added the kubuntu most experimental packages. how do I install the latest version of kubuntu?
[11:41] <improot_> destop view - widget?
[11:41] <neptune> yes
[11:41] <BUGabundo> maco get what?
[11:41] <maco> BUGabundo: i just looked up irc logs
[11:41] <neptune> ?
[11:41] <maco> BUGabundo: i dont see him being told to use edit that and use dist-upgrade. i see him saying "i did a way that's different than the directions. i edited that and did dist-upgrade. am i in trouble?"
[11:41] <BUGabundo> ok
[11:42] <blip-> hi all,  I run kub 8.04 ... is it safe to install KDE4 from the repos and try it out or will it make some conflicts with KDE3 ?    thanks
[11:42] <BUGabundo> then this guys is to blame for his own mistake maco
[11:42] <improot_> right click - add widget
[11:42] <maco> blip-: that's fine
[11:42] <neptune> improot i don't want to add widget
[11:42] <dr_willis>  blip-  You may want to test out a kde4 live cd.. to see if you like kde4 first
[11:42] <neptune> ah.......
[11:42] <neptune> i want a desktop
[11:42] <BUGabundo> in any case just a friendly heads up to our beloved pre-jaunty kde support users
[11:42] <ActionParsnip1> blip-: its fine
[11:42] <neptune> I HAVE NO DESKTOP
[11:42] <wers> which metapackage installs the latest kde4? i just added the kubuntu most experimental packages PPA
[11:43] <ActionParsnip1> neptune: then run: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and reboot
[11:43]  * dr_willis wonders what the definition of 'desktop' is in this conversation.
[11:43] <ActionParsnip1> neptune: you will get defaul x settings and the desktop will show next boot
[11:43] <blip-> is KDE 4.2 in there ?   for some reason synaptic shows the package version is 4:4.0.3
[11:43] <improot_> neptune: in kde 4 defaults - no desctop - defaults desctop view widgets
[11:44] <ActionParsnip1> blip-: hardy gets 4.2 via experimental uilds, intrepid gets official relase
[11:44] <dr_willis> the viewing of the 'Desktop' directory is handled by folder view widgit. :)
[11:44] <ActionParsnip1> blip-: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/tag/ubuntu-hardy-install-kde-42/
[11:44] <blip-> hmm,  ok I'll enable experimental.  I don't want 4.0 that's too old
[11:44] <ActionParsnip1> blip-: that guid will show you
[11:45] <blip-> great.  thanks ActionParsnip1
[11:45] <improot_> neptune: if you dont add widget, press Cntl+L and repeat
[11:45] <ActionParsnip1> blip-: just noticed it points to an intrepid guide but just change intrepid for hardy and it should work
[11:45] <blip-> ok
[11:46] <happytiger> Hi guyes. The messages beeing displayed by the notification messsages on jaunty where can I read them afterwards in the filesystem ??
[11:46] <bazhang> happytiger, #ubuntu+1 for jaunty
[11:46] <happytiger> oki maybe I should wrtite kde 4 instead of jaunty :-)
[11:47] <improot_> Blin! ) Chuvstvuyu sebya zdes' zaslancem!
[11:48] <nuxil> i got a problem.. my pc dont start up.. if i leave the powercable out for a few min and connect it. the screen shows bios in a few sec then all goes black,,, what can be wrong ? graphic or cpu?
[11:49] <improot_> nuxil: Power
[11:49] <nuxil> power to what?
[11:50] <nuxil> if my graphic card dont get power it crys like a baby
[11:50] <nuxil> some alarm on it
[11:50] <nuxil> also all other devices seam to start up
[11:50] <nuxil> i hear hd spinning up
[11:50] <nuxil> there is also a green light on the mobo
[11:51] <carpii> is there a nice gui wrapper for smartctl ?
[11:51] <nuxil> improot_ my psu == 2x450w
[11:51] <improot_> few sec and shutdown?
[11:51] <nuxil> Y
[11:51] <nuxil> NO
[11:51] <nuxil> ALL GOES BLACK
[11:51] <nuxil> BUT PC IS STILL ON
[11:51] <nuxil> erm sorry for caps
[11:52] <improot_> gmmm...
[11:52] <maco> does it always show the BIOS screen?
[11:52] <nuxil> no.. only if i unplug powercable and leav is out a few min..
[11:53] <nuxil> if i only try to restart by powerswitch its all black
[11:53] <nuxil> iys not the moitor..cos i use it atm on my eee pc
[11:53] <improot_> nuxil: look video or monitor
[11:54] <nuxil> i think its eighter video or cpu
[11:55] <nuxil> but how to tell the diff... whats the symtomes
[11:56] <nuxil> how does a cpu faulty behave in bootup vs faulty video ?
[11:56] <nuxil> is cpu if fault is bios still loaded ?
[11:57] <improot_> nuxil: sorry... i dont see... I bad speak english
[11:57] <nuxil> me aswell :p
[11:58] <nuxil> i mean.. how can i know if its cpu or video that is causing problems
[11:58] <nuxil> will bios load if cpu is burned?
[11:59] <improot_> no
[11:59] <nuxil> so i should test with a new video card first then
[12:00] <improot_> yes
[12:00] <improot_> videocard is first when need look
[12:00] <improot_> )))
[12:00] <nuxil> ok.. i guess 8800 is not so expencive anowadays
[12:01] <nuxil> thank for your time
[12:01] <improot_> nuxil: Pojaylusta!
[12:02] <nuxil> heh ?
[12:02] <improot_> i bad speak english, i good speak russian
[12:03] <bazhang> !ru
[12:03] <bazhang> english only here please
[12:03] <improot_> Ok
[12:03] <nuxil> lol :)
[12:04] <nuxil> everyone needs to learn russian :p
[12:04] <justin_> can anyone tellmehow to delete an entry in my sources list?
[12:04] <ghostcube> nope not really
[12:04] <improot_> drive out
[12:04] <bazhang> kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list place # in front
[12:05] <justin_> thanks
[12:05] <bazhang> then sudo apt-get update
[12:05] <nuxil> or justin_ sudo nano /etc/apt/source.list
[12:05] <nuxil> erm
[12:05] <bazhang> sources.list
[12:05]  * nuxil heads to the store for a new videocrad
[12:06] <improot_> nuxil: bye
[12:12] <improot_> ubottu > on #ubuntu-ru nobody work in Alfa Kubuntu with KDE4!!! I have question of widget networkmanagered...
[12:12] <improot_> ))))
[12:12] <bazhang> improot_, #ubuntu+1
[12:12] <improot_> Blin
[12:12] <bazhang> I'm not your blin
[12:13] <improot_> bazhang> Sorry
[12:14] <bazhang> improot_, please use english in all channels (except -ru of course)
[12:29] <BuGo_laptop> i am using Ubuntu. and somewhy when i open konqueror i have like 8 or more "Launching kwallet server" items in my Window list
[12:30] <BluesKaj> 'Morning
[12:30] <BuGo_laptop> i have removed kwalletmanager but it doesnot seem to help
[12:31] <BluesKaj> BuGo_laptop , you could try ' sudo updatedb ' in the terminal
[12:31] <ariana> hello there
[12:31] <ariana> is anybody here
[12:31] <BluesKaj> no , just us mice
[12:32] <BluesKaj> or is it we mice
[12:32] <ariana> okok
[12:32] <BuGo_laptop> BluesKaj, trying
[12:33] <BluesKaj> !ask | ariana
[12:34] <Act1> how get uuid swap part?
[12:34] <Act1> ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/ not have swap
[12:35] <BuGo_laptop> BluesKaj, launchers are still appearing.
[12:35] <BuGo_laptop> they stack up when i open any site. and disappear after some time
[12:37] <BluesKaj> Act1 , sudo fdisk -l
[12:37] <Act1> BluesKaj   and? i see partitiobn table, no uuid
[12:38] <shadeslayer> hi,my CDROM does not automatically mount when i insert it,most probably HAL was disabled by powertop,how do i reenable auto mount??
[12:39] <BluesKaj> Act1 , alt+f2 , kdesudo kate /etc/fstab
[12:40] <BluesKaj> BuGo_laptop , which kubuntu version ?
[12:40] <BuGo_laptop> BluesKaj, Ubuntu 8.10
[12:41] <BuGo_laptop> and using konqueror since i need 2 browsers at a time :/
[12:41] <BluesKaj> BuGo_laptop , have you checked system settings/ advanced ?
[12:42] <dimitree> Guys i'm using the alpha 6 version and in upodate software it shows 7 blocked updates ? Should i install these ?
[12:42] <shadeslayer> dimitree: maybe #ubuntu+1
[12:42] <dimitree> ok thank you
[12:42] <shadeslayer> no problem
 cannot find anything like this in ubuntu. Gnome.
[12:44] <BluesKaj> BuGo_laptop ,  join #ubuntu , they are more familiar with gnome there , kubuntu uses the KDE desktop
[12:45] <BuGo_laptop> BluesKaj, i know. they redirected me here since kwallet is KDE app
[12:46] <BluesKaj> I have to leave for a few mins ...bbiab
[12:51] <shadeslayer> so nobody knows about hal??
[12:53] <bazhang> !hal > shadeslayer
[12:54] <BluesKaj> I was getting a very long lagtime on IRC , so I needed to reboot the router
[12:54] <Act1> sorry i relogin
[12:54] <shadeslayer> bazhang: ive already see that,i cant get hal to automount my drive
[12:54] <Act1> so, how get uuid swap partition?
[12:55] <BluesKaj> Act1 , why are you worried about the swap partition ?
[12:55] <BluesKaj> qtparted, should show it
[12:55] <Act1> because my machine have 256 mb RAM =)
[12:55] <Act1> i have swap partition
[12:56] <Act1> but for starting swapon i need write uuid
[12:57] <shadeslayer> bazhang: maybe i need to rebuild hal or just reset it
[12:57] <BluesKaj> you can use gparted live cd to set your partitions
[12:57] <BluesKaj> !gparted
[12:57] <Act1> i have partition!
[12:57] <shadeslayer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/95868 looking at this
[12:57] <Act1> i cant start swapon
[12:57] <shadeslayer> bazhang: comment no. 7
[12:58] <BluesKaj> Act1, swap will only run if it's required
[12:59] <Act1> its required)
[13:00] <BluesKaj> !swap
[13:01] <husayn__> how to assign 2 IP address on a Lan card
[13:01] <husayn__> like in windows we can do it easily... under the properties of lan card
[13:01] <Act1> mm cant see, cant run more programs, no mempry awaliable
[13:01] <bane> hello!
[13:02] <BluesKaj> Act1 , which desktop are you running ?
[13:02] <Act1> kde
[13:03] <Act1> BluesKaj i move same partitions and now swap not work (
[13:03] <husayn__> how to give 2 ip address on one interface
[13:04] <Act1> for start swap i need chand uuid
[13:04] <BluesKaj> kde is meant for larger available memory ..recommend XFCE , http://www.xfce.org/ ..it's a much smaller footprint on memory
[13:05] <shadeslayer> Im still lost with hal,as i cannot download the source
[13:05] <Act1> BluesKaj ok i see it late, now i must start swap )
[13:07] <carpii> husayn__, just add a sub-interface in /etc/networking/interfaces
[13:07] <carpii> like add an entry for eth0:0
[13:09] <shadeslayer> ooh theres a hal channel,ill ask there
[13:17] <husayn__> i have got a windows server machine
[13:17] <husayn__> when i see its share from my Kubuntu PC
[13:17] <husayn__> i get error... the file or folder<EMAIL_ADDRESS>does not exists
[13:19] <noren> husayn__: u need smba server on ur kubuntu
[13:19] <husayn__> to access shares on windows ????
[13:20] <dr_willis> install/use samba husayn__
[13:20] <lokai> whats a good code editor for KDE (not emacs)?
[13:20] <husayn__> on the Client machine right /
[13:20] <husayn__> ?
[13:20] <dr_willis> and ive foumnd the samba browser feature of kde and gnome to be flakey.. i normally mount the shares.
[13:20] <shadeslayer> lokai: maybe kate
[13:20] <lokai> not kate either
[13:20] <lokai> dont like it
[13:20] <dr_willis> !samba
[13:20] <shadeslayer> !editor | lokai
[13:20] <lokai> doesn't have to be specifically for KDE O.o
[13:21] <lokai> !code
[13:21] <lokai> thanks shadeslayer
[13:21] <shadeslayer> no problem
[13:21] <noren> hey which is better pulseaudio or alsa
[13:21] <dr_willis> I like geany
[13:22] <dr_willis> noren,  pulseaudio uses alsa
[13:22] <shadeslayer> dr_willis: wrong nick i think
[13:22] <shadeslayer> oh sorry
[13:22]  * dr_willis dances the samba
[13:22]  * genii sips
[13:23]  * shadeslayer sobs as his CD's are eaten by hi laptop
[13:23] <noren> my vlc does not have sound i was thinking of getting pulse audio as i see theres a plugin in vlc for pulse but not for alsa
[13:23] <shadeslayer> *his
[13:23] <dr_willis> check the vlc settings - you can set it to use alsa. or oss.  OR it could be a codec issue with that specific video file
[13:23] <dr_willis> try some other video files
[13:23] <dr_willis> run vlc from a terminal also and look for messages
[13:24] <semmy> ciao a tutti
[13:24]  * shadeslayer is totally lost as to why his CD doesnt automount
[13:24] <noren> ass other player such as dragon player plays the file well
[13:24] <bazhang> !it
[13:25] <semmy> grazie
[13:25] <dr_willis> noren,  that one might be using the w32codecs or somthing.
[13:25] <dr_willis> if i recall - vlc does not use the codec packs it includes most of them allready. mplayer and others need the w32codec package
[13:26] <noren> [00000454] oss audio output error: cannot open audio device (/dev/dsp)
[13:26] <noren> [00000454] main audio output error: couldn't find a filter for the conversion
[13:26] <noren> [00000454] main audio output error: couldn't create audio output pipeline
[13:27] <dr_willis> try the settings see if you can set it to alsa instead of oss perhaps
[13:27] <noren> well in gui i have already done that
[13:27] <shadeslayer> uh any way i can reset hal??
[13:28] <dr_willis> noren,  on some players you have to quit/restart them for some settings to take effect. not sure ablut vlc
[13:29] <dr_willis> theres a hal service.. but im not sure what that would 'reset' if anything
[13:29] <ikonia> nothing
[13:29] <dr_willis> ive never needed to reset hal :)
[13:29] <dr_willis> !hal
[13:29] <squid0> hi. when I play movies, the colour is all weird. vlc and mplayer. why could that be?
[13:30] <shadeslayer> dr_willis: well my CD drive wont automount since powertop stopped hal from polling,works fine in GNOME tho
[13:30] <dr_willis> sounds like video drivers squid0
[13:30] <dr_willis> shadeslayer,  mount it manually? :)
[13:31] <shadeslayer> dr_willis: dolphin cant see it
[13:31] <dr_willis> im old-skool.. i got scripts made up called 'cdin' and 'cdout' that mount/unmount&eject my cds :P
[13:31] <squid0> dr_willis: ok. it's all been fine until pretty recently. now things get a strange tint/hue
[13:32] <noren> dr_willis: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com:80/133029/ << vlc
[13:33] <dr_willis> ALSA lib confmisc.c:768:(parse_card) cannot find card '0'
[13:33] <shadeslayer> now mount cant see cdrom0 :(
[13:33] <dr_willis> Looks like its confused about what sound card to use
[13:34] <noren> hmm
[13:34] <ikonia> shadeslayer: if you have put power managment setup on - which I assume is what powertop is (I don' tknow though) I suspect it may have stopped auto spin up on the CDROM which will stop a dbus event for ha l
[13:34] <ikonia> hal
[13:35] <shadeslayer> yep powertop is a power management tool for laptops
[13:36] <dr_willis> !powertop
[13:36] <shadeslayer> ikonia: so any remedies??
[13:36] <dr_willis> powertop is intels tweaking stuff I thought. Not just for laptops. :)
[13:36] <BluesKaj> !powerdevil
[13:36] <dr_willis> PowerTOP is a software utility designed to measure and explain a computer's electrical power consumption. It was released by Intel in 2007 under the GPLv2 license.
[13:36] <dr_willis> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerTOP
[13:37] <BluesKaj> !info PowerDevil
[13:37] <BluesKaj> what ? ..it's in system settings
[13:37] <dr_willis> !find devil
[13:38] <BluesKaj> hmm...left not knowing what the right hand is doing ?
[13:38] <dr_willis> whats the 1 other bot! tell us!
[13:39] <BluesKaj> !bot
[13:39] <squid0> so dr_willis, what can I do about the video with strange colours?
[13:40] <dr_willis> squid0,   check the forums for your card/drivers/issue - perhaps.
[13:40] <dr_willis> ive heard of some cards and drivers having similer issues.
[13:40] <shadeslayer> now i mount cant find my cd drive
[13:40] <shadeslayer> *-i
[13:40] <ikonia> shadeslayer: if mount can't see the device for your cd drive it's nothing to do with hal
[13:41] <ikonia> shadeslayer: the device file should be created by udev at boot time for it
[13:41] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer , reboot , HAL will find it
[13:41] <shadeslayer> ikonia: thats a recent development
[13:41] <ikonia> shadeslayer: that still makes it nothing to do with hal
[13:41] <ikonia> shadeslayer: udev is not hal
[13:41] <ikonia> shadeslayer: if you can't see the device file - hal is not at fault
[13:41] <shadeslayer> ikonia: uh,till yesterday night i could easily mount the drive
[13:42] <genii> Gah, work. /away
[13:42] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer , why do you keep having to remount your cdrom drive , have you been playing around in fstab ?
[13:43] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: actionparsnip told me to mess with it,he posted his fstab and told me to copy the last line
[13:43]  * shadeslayer scrolls up to find linkie
[13:44] <BluesKaj> ok shadeslayer. pastebin it so we can have a look
[13:44] <ikonia> copying someone elses fstab should never be done unless you are %100 sure of what you are doing
[13:45] <ikonia> if it's broke since you added that line.......reomve the line
[13:45] <ikonia> remove
[13:45] <shadeslayer>  http://pastebin.com/f4d593312
[13:45] <shadeslayer> that was his fstab
[13:46] <shadeslayer> http://pastebin.ca/1363633 is mine
[13:46] <shadeslayer> gah..my post expired
[13:49]  * shadeslayer has new kernel and drivers to play with
[13:49] <ikonia> why do you need a new kernel
[13:49] <ikonia> and what "drivers" are you talking about ?
[13:49] <shadeslayer> ikonia: i mean i had a update
[13:49] <linknet> www.linknet.unas.cz
[13:49] <shadeslayer> i got a new kernel
[13:49] <ikonia> well how ar eyou going to play with it ??? it's a binary file
[13:49] <magnus_> Hello
[13:50] <magnus_> How come my dragonplayer cant play the movies I've downloaded ?
[13:50] <shadeslayer> ikonia: you kill all the fun......anyways how do i reset fstab then??
[13:50] <magnus_> Is it not very fit for videowatching or?
[13:50] <ikonia> shadeslayer: you delete the line you added
[13:51] <shadeslayer> and it defaults ??
[13:51] <ikonia> shadeslayer: it's default is what it was before you added a line
[13:51] <ikonia> shadeslayer: you just delete the line you added
[13:52] <shadeslayer> ok
[13:52] <ikonia> shadeslayer: there is no default - each fstab is different for each system, hence why you should not copy someone else
[13:52] <dr_willis> I cant stand dragonplayer. :)
[13:52] <shadeslayer> ikonia: got it,will never do so again
[13:52] <shadeslayer> ikonia: line deleted,rebooting
[13:57] <noren> !medibuntu
[13:58] <shadeslayer> ikonia: no new line
[13:59] <singularity_a> greetings
[14:00] <ikonia> shadeslayer: new line where ?
[14:00] <shadeslayer> in fstab
[14:00] <ikonia> shadeslayer: what do you mean no new line ?
[14:00] <ikonia> shadeslayer: you should have deleted a line
[14:00] <shadeslayer> ikonia: i mean no new line after i deleted the old line in fstab and rebooted
[14:00] <singularity_a> is the issue with Kubuntu 9.04 alpha 6 not getting to the KDE desktop in vmware a known issue?
[14:01] <ikonia> shadeslayer: of course there is no new line
[14:01] <ikonia> shadeslayer: why would there be a new line if you deleted it ?
[14:01] <shadeslayer> doh.......
[14:01] <shadeslayer> ikonia: so i manually add it??
[14:01] <ikonia> no ????
[14:01] <shadeslayer> then??
[14:01] <ikonia> shadeslayer: what are you messing with fstab for ?
[14:02] <shadeslayer> ikonia: you told me to delete the old line,i delete it.......what next??
[14:02] <ikonia> shadeslayer: nothing
[14:02] <ikonia> shadeslayer: that's it
[14:02] <shadeslayer> ikonia: so my CD should mount??
[14:02] <ikonia> shadeslayer: no - but you have removed the problem of copying someone elses line
[14:03] <ikonia> now you can debug the issues you have
[14:03] <shadeslayer> hmm,like dmesg | tail??
[14:03] <ikonia> (assuming your still having problems)
[14:03] <ikonia> you can debug it how you see fit
[14:03] <ikonia> I don't see how dmesg will help you at this time, but your welcome to progress how you see fit
[14:04] <shadeslayer> ikonia: the thing is that the CD mounts in GNOME but not in KDE
[14:04] <justin_> why hello everyone
[14:05] <ikonia> shadeslayer: ok
[14:05] <shadeslayer> ikonia: should i now put my problem as " hi i messed with fstab, and i was told to delete the line containing my CDROM device,so can anyone help me re write that line ?? "
[14:06] <ikonia> shadeslayer: you can ask the problem however you want - just ask with a much clear detail as possible
[14:07] <shadeslayer>  hi i messed with fstab, and i was told to delete the line containing my CDROM device,so can anyone help me re write the line i deleted??
[14:07] <shadeslayer> i copied someone else's fstab line
[14:07] <noren> hi to get the pulse audio to do i alhave to remove also
[14:07] <noren> ALSA
[14:08] <BluesKaj> noren, a friendly warning ..pulse audio will break your system
[14:09] <noren> BluesKaj: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com:80/133029/ << can u suggest something here i dont have sound with vlc
[14:11] <BluesKaj> noren,  in the terminal type ' alsamixer ', make sure the Master, PCM, Line & CD are all unmuted ,by using the "M" key'
[14:11] <shadeslayer> hi how do i reset fstab to defaults??
[14:12] <genii> shadeslayer: There is no "reset fstab to defaults" because not everyone has the same number of hd, partitions on the hd and order in which things are attached
[14:12] <BluesKaj> noren, if you don't have alsa , sudo apt-get install alsa-base
[14:12] <ikonia> shadeslayer: I told you this less than 5 minutes ago
[14:13] <shadeslayer> genii: ok so how do i  get fstab to recognise my CD rom
[14:13] <shadeslayer> ikonia: sorry , i forgot
[14:13] <noren> BluesKaj: i have alsa basse but no alsa mixture
[14:14] <BluesKaj> noren , it's called alsamixer
[14:14] <shadeslayer> ikonia: OMG,i fired up nautlius and it shows the CD
[14:14] <genii> shadeslayer: 1) find what device it is. Usually if you ls -l /dev/cdrom   it points to something like /dev/scd0 or so.    2) Add a line in the fstab which mounts that device under somewhere like /media/cdrom directory, using filesystem auto or iso9660 and udf.
[14:15] <BluesKaj> noren, just type alsamixer in the terminal
[14:15] <genii> Work needs me, AFK a few
[14:15] <shadeslayer> genii: i opened nautilius and it shows the CD
[14:15] <noren> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[14:17] <Mr_Grieves|> Hi all -- is it ok to delete all the /usr/src/linux-OLDVERSION.* files?
[14:17] <BluesKaj> noren , then alsa isn't seeing your soundcard... lspci | grep audio
[14:18] <BluesKaj> noren , then do: asoundconf set-default-card "name of soundcard"
[14:19] <BluesKaj> BBL , errands to do
[14:19] <noren> BluesKaj: i dont have any separate sound card i use the mother board
[14:19] <shadeslayer> genii: i did what you said,the CD opens with nautilus not dolphin and sudo mount /dev/cdrom gives me a error that there is a write block on the CD
[14:20] <shadeslayer> then something about wrong fs type
[14:20] <noren> !sound
[14:20] <BluesKaj> no matter, it's still seen as an onboard card . noren
[14:20] <shadeslayer> genii: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/scd0,
[14:20] <shadeslayer>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[14:21] <Mr_Grieves|> !OLDVERSION
[14:23] <shadeslayer> is there any place where i can edit my account to give myself a privilege to use a CD ROM??
[14:23] <Nollapiste> Does anyone use OpenBox with KDE?
[14:24] <justin_> most stable kde 4.2 distro????
[14:25] <justin_> learn xss online free??
[14:25] <Nollapiste> justin_: Debian is always a good choise when you need extreme stability.
[14:26] <justin_> it needs to be more user friendl
[14:26] <Nollapiste> Hmm...
[14:26] <justin_> i'm somewhat new to linux running kubuntu 8.10 with kde 4.2.1 intrepid
[14:26] <justin_> its buggy and i tried opensuse... which was worse
[14:27] <Nollapiste> justin_: You installed it from backports, so it's not very stable
[14:27] <noren> bluueskaj : thank set-default-card default
[14:27] <Nollapiste> But it's fine for me...
[14:27] <shadeslayer> gah....i think dolphin is responsible
[14:28] <shadeslayer> brb
[14:28] <Guest27702> saluti a tutti
[14:28] <justin_> i saw on kubuntu's website 8.10 with 4.2 breathe blah blah but do they have a nice stable cd?
[14:28] <justin_> i couldnt find one on their sitge
[14:28]  * genii sips
[14:28] <maco> justin_: kde 4.1 is in 8.10
[14:29] <maco> 4.2 is in backports and the experimental ppa
[14:29] <maco> for 4.2 stable, you need to wait one more month for 9.04
[14:29] <justin_> okay
[14:29] <justin_> thats what i was looking for thank you
[14:29] <Nollapiste> I installed 4.2 from backports it works fine for me but there can always be problems
[14:30] <justin_> yeah its acer i think :(
[14:30] <justin_> i got an old acer and wiped off vista for my kubuntu
[14:32] <jpedroza1> Good morning all. I am having some serious issues with ACPI and HAL with my battery. It comes up and shows the battery and then the battery disappears and can't be found. I have gone through a bunch of bug reports and can't seem to find a fix. If I cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/state I get present: no
[14:32] <jpedroza1> I have tried restarting acpi and hal all to no avail.
[14:32] <justin_> and one more q for you nerds =P anyone know a good spot to learn xss free??
[14:33] <shadeslayer> atleast lancelot can see it
[14:33] <shadeslayer> but i cant still open the device
[14:33] <Nollapiste> jpedroza1: Witch version of kubuntu do you use?
[14:34] <jpedroza1> This is on intrepid
[14:34] <emanoel> im sorry cannot helping you, goog luck!
[14:35] <Nollapiste> Oops, *which
[14:35] <Nollapiste> jpedroza1: And what laptop do you use?
[14:35] <jpedroza1> Nollapiste: I should mention that I upgraded the BIOS to the latest version yesterday, and enabled acpi in the bios after the update. This is on an MSI 1719.
[14:35] <shadeslayer> ill use GNOME for the time being then,since no one knows what to do
[14:36] <jpedroza1> shadeslayer: I missed your question. What are you trying to do?
[14:36] <Nollapiste> jpedroza1: I think that a BIOS update doesn't effect to system
[14:37] <shadeslayer> jpedroza1: i messed with my fstab yesterday and copied some one else's fstab,my CD rom wont automount
[14:37] <shadeslayer> so i deleted the line,re-wrote the line i copied,still the drive refuses to automount
[14:38] <shadeslayer> jpedroza1: it mounts in nautilus tho
[14:39] <jpedroza1> shadeslayer: Does the CD show up in the device notifier widget?
[14:39] <shadeslayer> no
[14:40] <jpedroza1> can you give me a pastebin of your fstab?
[14:40] <shadeslayer> sure one sec
[14:40] <jpedroza1> shadeslayer: thanks
[14:41] <shadeslayer> jpedroza1: http://pastebin.com/m78e73326
[14:43] <jpedroza1> shadeslayer: are you sure that your cdrom mounts at /media/cdrom? Mine is set to /media/cdrom0 in fstab. Other than that the lines are exactly the same.
[14:44] <shadeslayer> ls -l /dev/cdrom gave me /dev/cdrom -> scd0
[14:44] <ikonia> so ?
[14:44] <ikonia> how does that change the mount point ?
[14:45] <shadeslayer> so i thought that cdrom is the mount point
[14:45] <shadeslayer> so do i change it to cdrom0 ??
[14:46] <ikonia> the mount point has nothing to do with the device name, unless hal is create a lable
[14:46] <shadeslayer> ikonia: so it comes back to hal again ??
[14:46] <ikonia> no
[14:46] <ikonia> it's nothing to do with hal as I said
[14:47] <shadeslayer> oh.....
[14:47] <ikonia> I'm saying that is the only time the name of a mount point would matter, and as you're using fstab - not hal, it doesn't matter
[14:47]  * shadeslayer is a bit confused,thats all
[14:47] <shadeslayer> oh i get it now
[14:48] <shadeslayer> ikonia: why is it that nautilus can mount the CD but not dolphin??
[14:48] <ikonia> because they are two different desktops
[14:48] <ikonia> or "file managers" what ever you want to call them
[14:48] <shadeslayer> but they use the same fstab  i guess??
[14:49] <ikonia> I suspect they will be mounting it in userspace - but I don't know that for a fact without looking
[14:50] <XPS_M1330> where can  remove the logoff sound event?
[14:50] <JontheEchidna> XPS_M1330: System Settings -> Notifications
[14:50] <XPS_M1330> yes I just coudln't find the event source, now I got it
[14:51] <jpedroza1> shadeslayer: Can you mount the CD using mount at the command line and then try and browse to /media/cdrom in dolphin?
[14:51] <shadeslayer> jpedroza1: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/scd0,
[14:51] <shadeslayer>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[14:52] <jpedroza1> shadeslayer: Ok, I think I see a problem with your CD line in fstab
[14:52]  * shadeslayer looks more carefully
[14:53] <shadeslayer> where?/
[14:53] <jpedroza1> shadeslayer: Try making it look like this: /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom   udf,iso9660   user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0
[14:53] <vassili> HI! How to select files group in the com.line?
[14:53] <jpedroza1> the udf is a format, not an option
[14:53] <shadeslayer> done
[14:53] <jpedroza1> now try and mount at the command line
[14:53] <sorset> hi , i have problem with adept manager recently!
[14:53] <sorset> in sources when i click on Edit Software Sources it begins to "fetch current package lists"!!
[14:54] <shadeslayer> same erroe
[14:54] <shadeslayer> *r
[14:54] <vassili> HI! How to select files group in the com.line?
[14:54] <kurumin> fala
[14:54] <jpedroza1> shadeslayer: What command are you using to mount the CD?
[14:55] <shadeslayer> jpedroza1: mount /dev/cdrom
[14:55] <shadeslayer> even adding sudo does not help
[14:55] <jpedroza1> shadeslayer: Try mount /media/cdrom
[14:55] <shadeslayer> same
[14:56]  * shadeslayer wants to try the -f  option
[14:56] <jpedroza1> vassili: Not sure I understand your question. Do you want to select multiple files from a command line?
[14:57] <jpedroza1> shadeslayer: Do you know the format of the disk in the drive?
[14:57] <vassili> jpedroza1: Yes!
[14:57] <shadeslayer> i think it said something like cddma
[14:57] <vassili> jpedroza1: how?
[14:57] <jpedroza1> vassili: Are you trying to copy these files?
[14:57] <jpedroza1> shadeslayer: Do you have a disk that we know is an ISO9660 or UDF formatted disk?
[14:58] <vassili> no, i want encode wav files with lame
[14:58] <jpedroza1> shadeslayer: I just want to make sure that this is not a format issue
[14:58] <vassili> no, i want encode wav files with lame
[14:58] <vassili> jpedroza1: i want encode wav files with lame
[14:59] <jpedroza1> vassili: If the files all have the extension (.wav) you can use the wildcard  *.wav
[15:00] <vassili> jpedroza1:
[15:00] <vassili> vassili@vassili-laptop:~/newmp3/_$ lame *.wav
[15:00] <vassili> lame: excess arg _03.wav
[15:00] <shadeslayer> jpedroza1: dunno what youre talking about
[15:01] <amit_> hey...
[15:02] <jpedroza1> shadeslayer: The disk mounts in gnome, correct?
[15:02] <jimdb_> vassili: When in doubt try it out
[15:04] <jpedroza1> vassili: Are there any special characters in the names of the files? If so, LAME can interpret them as passing an argument. Characters like - (hyphen) are particularly problematic.
[15:04] <amit_> no one speaks... here.. boring.. room
[15:05] <ikonia> amit_: many people speak
[15:05] <jpedroza1> amit_: Do you have a question?
[15:05] <ikonia> amit_: you've just watched conversations
[15:05] <amit_> thanks...
[15:06] <amit_> i am new to irc...
[15:06] <jpedroza1> anyone have any ideas on my disappearing battery?
[15:06] <amit_> is this is tech chat v?
[15:06] <ikonia> amit_: it is kubuntu support
[15:06] <jpedroza1> amit_: Yes
[15:06] <amit_> oh... great.. thanks... :)
[15:08] <shadeslayer> jpedroza1: correct,sorry for the ;ate reply
[15:08] <shadeslayer> *l
[15:09] <shadeslayer> jpedroza1: your battery is dying??
[15:10] <jpedroza1> shadeslayer: No, my battery just disappears from power manager. It shows in /proc/acpi/battery for a bit, then says it isn't found
[15:11] <jpedroza1> shadeslayer: I have to admit that I am at a bit of a loss as to why the disk is not showing in kubuntu. The only other thing I can think is that kubuntu is looking for it at /media/cdrom0.
[15:11] <shadeslayer> jpedroza1: oh i see,tried mopdprobe??
[15:11] <jpedroza1> shadeslayer: Maybe change the mount point, see what happens.
[15:11] <shadeslayer> to cdrom0??
[15:11] <jpedroza1> shadeslayer: yes
[15:12] <shadeslayer> yes as in you tried modprobe or yes to change the mount point
[15:12] <ikonia> shadeslayer: modprobe what ?
[15:12] <ikonia> shadeslayer: what should he moprobe ?
[15:12] <shadeslayer> ikonia: maybe the battery??
[15:12] <jpedroza1> shadeslayer: sorry, I have not tried modprobe. lsmod shows the acpi modules
[15:13] <ikonia> modprobe the battery ??
[15:13] <shadeslayer> eh leave it
[15:13] <ikonia> leave it ?
[15:13] <ikonia> leave what ?
[15:13] <shadeslayer> this discussion
[15:13] <shadeslayer> ok look ill try to change the mount point
[15:13] <ikonia> shadeslayer: then don't make random suggestions to people that can potentially do damage
[15:14] <shadeslayer> ok
[15:15] <shadeslayer> ikonia , jpedroza1 : same error as before
[15:16] <shadeslayer> wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/scd0,
[15:16] <shadeslayer>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[15:16] <jpedroza1> shadeslayer: With that change in place, can you eject the disk and re-insert it, please?
[15:16] <shadeslayer> ok
[15:17] <shadeslayer> :O the CD is not ejecting
[15:17] <jpedroza1> hmmmm, that usually means it is mounted somewhere.
[15:17] <jpedroza1> do a df -k on the cli for me
[15:17] <jpedroza1> see if there is a cd in the list
[15:18] <shadeslayer> two partitions i dont recognise : udev and varrun
[15:19] <jpedroza1> can you pastebin the output for me?
[15:19] <shadeslayer> sure
[15:20] <shadeslayer> jpedroza1: http://pastebin.com/m3a0e36ac
[15:21] <shadeslayer> :eek:
[15:22] <shadeslayer> jpedroza1: got my link??
[15:22] <jpedroza1> shadeslayer: Looking at it now
[15:24] <shadeslayer> ok i thought i got a netsplit my self
[15:24] <jpedroza1> shadeslayer: Nothing out of the ordinary there. Very similar to mine.
[15:25] <jpedroza1> shadeslayer: Can you try unmounting /media/cdrom, as root (sudo) just for the thrill of it
[15:25] <shadeslayer> hehe
[15:25] <shadeslayer> what about -f command
[15:25] <jpedroza1> not sure that would help.
[15:25] <shadeslayer> nope same error without -f
[15:26] <shadeslayer> jpedroza1: :O it mounted with -f
[15:26] <jpedroza1> shadeslayer: if you ls /media/cdrom, does it show any files?
[15:26] <shadeslayer> jpedroza1: :( no
[15:27] <xain> What video player could i use to play .flv file's?
[15:27] <shadeslayer> !flv > xain
[15:28] <Slartibartfast> xain: i can play flash video with any video player
[15:28] <shadeslayer> jpedroza1: so nothing can be done i guess??
[15:28] <jpedroza1> shadeslayer: I am sorry, but I am at a bit of a loss.
[15:29] <shadeslayer> :( ive spent 2 hours and i am stuck with my CD rom inside the notebook with no way to remove it........nice
[15:29] <xain> I can't seem to get .flv file's to run in dragon player.
[15:30] <jpedroza1> shadeslayer: try sudo umount /media/cdrom
[15:30] <jpedroza1> then see if you can remove the disk
[15:30] <shadeslayer> jpedroza1: umount: /dev/scd0: not mounted
[15:31] <Slartibartfast> xain: here also with dragon player no problem to play flash video ... do you have medibuntu in your sources.list?
[15:31] <jpedroza1> shadeslayer: if you click on the device notifier in the GUI does it show any disks?
[15:32] <shadeslayer> only my iPod
[15:32] <xain> I will have to check in a second, i used apt-get for the restricted format's.
[15:32] <shadeslayer> jpedroza1: tho lancelot shows the CD
[15:32] <xain> Didn't know it was going to download java...
[15:32] <Slartibartfast> !medibuntu|xain
[15:32] <shadeslayer> ill just restart to remove it
[15:32] <jpedroza1> shadeslayer: can you eject with lancelot?
[15:33] <shadeslayer> no
[15:33] <shadeslayer> oh wait
[15:33] <shadeslayer> :O it ejected
[15:33]  * shadeslayer dances
[15:33] <xain> Is there a way to install all of them at once?
[15:34] <Slartibartfast> xain: when you enable medibuntu in your sources.list then do sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[15:35] <Slartibartfast> or if you have a 64bit system ..... w64codecs
[15:35] <shadeslayer> jpedroza1: still does not mount :(
[15:36] <jpedroza1> shadeslayer: Man, you have me stumped. Not a good day for me today.
[15:36] <shadeslayer> jpedroza1: where can i edit my permissions in KDE??
[15:36] <shadeslayer> jpedroza1: hehe
[15:36] <jpedroza1> shadeslayer: permissions for what?
[15:36] <shadeslayer> jpedroza1: like using a CD ROM,modem,etc
[15:36] <shadeslayer> jpedroza1: like in GNOME's Users and groups
[15:39] <jpedroza1> shadeslayer: There is Kuser in K->Applications->System
[15:40] <shadeslayer> jpedroza1: haldaemon is unchecked
[15:41] <shadeslayer> jpedroza: whats ur status??
[15:41] <jpedroza> shadeslayer: I am here.
[15:41] <jpedroza> shadeslayer: Network hickup
[15:41] <shadeslayer> jpedroza: i mean in kusers>group
[15:42] <shadeslayer> ill just enable haldaemon and see what happens
[15:42] <jpedroza> shadeslayer: adm, dialout, cdrom, plugdev, lpadmin, admin, sambashare
[15:43] <shadeslayer> hmm
[15:43] <shadeslayer> somewhat different here
[15:44] <shadeslayer> i have dip,audio and scanner as well
[15:44] <shadeslayer> i have a bright idea
[15:45] <shadeslayer> jpedroza: ill add another account and see if the CD mounts
[15:45]  * shadeslayer hears his CD spinning
[15:48] <xt> is there kde4 packages anywhere built with qt4.5?
[15:49] <Slartibartfast> xt: Yeah ... in Jaunty
[15:49] <xt> How far is jaunty from freeze?
[15:49] <Slartibartfast> xt: it is already frozen
[15:49] <Slartibartfast> feature frozen
[15:50] <xt> hm
[15:51] <Slartibartfast> qt is to big to just upgrade in intrepid
[15:53] <blip-> hi,  anyone know how to enable the "experimental" repos on Hardy ?    I heard that KDE4.2 is inside there
[15:54] <jpedroza> shadeslayer: Did it work?
[15:55] <xt> does nvidia binary driver work in jaunty?
[15:56] <shadeslayer_> jpedroza: hey,im on my test sccount
[15:56] <Slartibartfast> xt: when you install the one older then 180.35, yes
[15:56] <jpedroza> shadeslayer_: any luck?
[15:56] <Slartibartfast> 180.35 gave a lot of trouble on my desktop
[15:56] <shadeslayer_> k3b can read the CDrom but dolphin cant see it
[15:57] <xt> Slartibartfast: k, I have 180.29
[15:57] <jpedroza> shadeslayer_: that don't make no sense
[15:57] <shadeslayer_> jpedroza: on my actual account even k3b gave me a error
[15:57] <Slartibartfast> xt: you installed not from directly from nvidia ?
[15:57] <xt> no, some ppa.
[15:58] <shadeslayer_> jpedroza: well this means that the cd is mounted and kicking right?? its just that dolphin has some bug
[15:58] <Slartibartfast> xt: Mmmm ... well you can try i think ...
[15:58] <jpedroza> sounds like it.
[15:58] <Slartibartfast> xt: don't know much you want qt 4.5
[15:58] <zik>  after that the shortcut got f*cked up and alo it seems that my launcher menu got corrupted (system monitor item not showing under "system" anymore. there's the edited shortcut tin the "lost & found" submenu though). how do i restore the menu items? google didn't help and neither did reinstalling the ksysguard package.
[15:58] <xt> well, I like to bleed anyway (:
[15:59] <zik> damn. :)
[15:59] <shadeslayer_> jpedroza: so dophin bugs go in #dolphin??
[15:59] <Slartibartfast> xt: hehehe .. then "go for it"
[15:59] <jpedroza> shadeslayer_: I would guess so
[15:59] <draik_> My friend has bluetooth keyboard, mouse and speakers. The keyboard and mouse work well, but not the speakers. Where should I begin looking for a solution?
[16:00] <shadeslayer_> jpedroza: +k on the channel
[16:00] <blip-> what is the situation with KDE4.2.1 on Hardy ?      This only mentions Janty   http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[16:00] <shadeslayer_> jpedroza: i think ill file a bug report
[16:01] <jpedroza> shadeslayer_: cool. Sorry I wasn't more help.
[16:02] <shadeslayer_> oh no problems,just hope its sorted before 2 nd April (Install fest)
[16:02] <Slartibartfast> blip-: Hardy is LTS ... long time support ... when you add unsupported software on it the whole purpose of LTS gets lost ....
[16:05] <blip-> Slartibartfast: I didn't realize it was unsupported.  I'm guessing there is no hope of KDE4 coming to Hardy in the future then
[16:06] <Slartibartfast> blip-: i even have on intrepid a check for "unsupported updates" to have KDE 4.2
[16:06] <blip-> oh ok
[16:06] <Slartibartfast> blip-: but if you really want it you ofcourse can compile it yourself :-)
[16:07] <blip-> Slartibartfast: not that badly I don't :)
[16:07] <shadeslayer_> gtg
[16:07] <Slartibartfast> blip-: ok ok ... Then maybe wait amonth for Jaunty or so
[16:07] <inanimate> Is there a reason that when I try to blank my LCD, KScreenSaver wakes it up and takes over?
[16:07] <inanimate> I'm blanking it with: xset dpms force off
[16:08] <blip-> Slartibartfast: jaunty will be out in a month ?   ididn't Intrepid like just come out 2 months ago... it's too soon
[16:08] <blip-> ? jaunty
[16:08] <blip-> ! jaunty
[16:08] <Slartibartfast> Jaunty will be 9.04 ... meaning the 4th month of (200)9
[16:09] <blip-> oh nice
[16:09] <blip-> I was always wondering where that crazy naming convention came from :D
[16:10] <Slartibartfast> :-) ... well the names like Jaunty Jackalope ... will follow the alphabet ... the next one will be Karmic Koala ...
[16:10] <Slartibartfast> will be 9.10 we guess
[16:11] <Slartibartfast> october 2009
[16:12] <Slartibartfast> !karmic
[16:12] <blip-> Karmic Koala is a nice name.
[16:12] <blip-> I don't fancy Hardy Heroin too much :D
[16:12] <blip-> !koala
[16:13] <blip-> !eeebuntu
[16:13] <blip-> !eebuntu
[16:13] <blip-> !ebuntu
[16:13] <Slartibartfast> !edubuntu
[16:14] <blip-> was looking for this http://www.eeebuntu.org/
[16:14] <blip-> I guess it's not an official flavor perhaps
[16:14] <Slartibartfast> ah ... OK... there is a special ubuntu for netbooks .... but what was it's name ?
[16:16] <hix> Easy Peasy ;)
[16:16] <Slartibartfast> !unr
[16:16] <blip-> !netbuntu
[16:16] <Slartibartfast> !info ubuntu netbook remix
[16:17] <Slartibartfast> aaaah :-) ok ok .. we forgive you ubottu
[16:17] <Slartibartfast> http://www.canonical.com:80/projects/ubuntu/unr
[16:17] <blip-> !info ubuntu kubuntu-members-kde4 remix
[16:18] <shadeslayer> ok gtg bye all
[16:22] <hix> ubuntu eee now called easy peasy: http://www.geteasypeasy.com/
[16:30] <casakubuntu> hola
[16:31] <Pconfig> heya, any way to install kdevelop4 from a repo?
[16:31] <Pconfig> can't seem to find it anywhere
[16:32] <casakubuntu> i am spain
[16:34] <FuriousGeorge1> hey all
[16:34] <FuriousGeorge1> anyone know where i should put an export command so that it is run on boot?
[16:35] <Slartibartfast> FuriousGeorge1: is it user specific ?
[16:35] <FuriousGeorge1> Slartibartfast: no
[16:35] <Slartibartfast> then in .bashrc
[16:35] <Slartibartfast> mmm
[16:36] <Slartibartfast> FuriousGeorge1: what export you need ? .... if i may ask :-)
[16:36] <FuriousGeorge1> Slartibartfast: /etc/init.d/rc?  i need to set the variable TZ to my timzone to get around a bug in java
[16:37] <Slartibartfast> So you timezone which is now set is not right in java ? ......
[16:37] <FuriousGeorge1> Slartibartfast: correct, java apps didnt adjest for DST
[16:38] <FuriousGeorge1> but only java apps
[16:38] <FuriousGeorge1> so /etc/init.d/rc?
[16:39] <impy> Is there a command for launcher properties to keep an app on a specific workspace?
[16:39] <Slartibartfast> FuriousGeorge1: yeah i think you are right with that guess ... but i'm not sure ...
[16:40] <FuriousGeorge1> Slartibartfast: im sure it will work, just wondering if it was "best practice"
[16:42] <Slartibartfast> FuriousGeorge: I think a workaround for a bug in java does not have a "best practice" ... the best would be that the bug gets fixed
[16:42] <FuriousGeorge> Slartibartfast: i just meant for defining env vars on boot
[16:45] <Slartibartfast> FuriousGeorge: i think system wide variables are indeed set by /etc/init.d/rc ... i can remeber it was in ealier versions of redhat ... rc.local
[16:45] <impy> Is there a command for launcher properties to keep an app on a specific workspace?
[16:54] <Ev0luti0n_> hello folks
[16:54] <impy> o/
[16:54] <Ev0luti0n_> i have a question, about internet/gateway problems (sort off)
[16:54] <Ev0luti0n_> anyone to help?
[16:56] <Slartibartfast> !ask
[16:57] <Ev0luti0n_> ...
[16:57] <Ev0luti0n_> I know about that. Just wanted to avoid, to talk for nothing
[16:57] <Ev0luti0n_> the question is:
[16:57] <noren> hi all
[16:57] <impy> Is there a command for launcher properties to keep an app on a specific workspace?
[16:59] <noren> !Epiphany
[16:59] <noren> !info Epiphany
[16:59] <Ev0luti0n_> i have an IPtv router from thomson. The router works well, and is fully configured and gives access to the web properly. The problem is that when i restart the computer, although the router hasn't reseted nor the connection droped, i am unable to access the internet, only solving the problem after restarting the router manually (power button). Any help or ideas on this?
[17:00] <Ev0luti0n_> I am running kubuntu 8.10
[17:03] <Slartibartfast> Ev0luti0n_: Sorry but i don''t have an answer ... but seems it's more router problem as kubuntu
[17:03] <Ev0luti0n_> hmmm
[17:03] <Ev0luti0n_> ok
[17:03] <Ev0luti0n_> thanks for the help anyways
[17:04] <slerder> Hey guys. Does anyone have any experience booting an os, whether it be windows or ubuntu,etc from a usb 2.0 hdd? I was planning on doing this but was worried usb 2.0 was not fast enought and would make things sluggish. Any thoughts? Thanks
[17:05] <kuaera> Wow. Kubuntu Jaunty has been getting a ton of updates recently D:
[17:06] <impy> Is there a command for launcher properties to keep an app on a specific workspace?
[17:19] <martijn81> hi, my desktop does not boot anymore after the lastest updates under 8.10
[17:20] <martijn81> is this only me experiencing this?
[17:22] <noren> martijn81:  whats the prob
[17:23] <martijn81> noren: my dekstop strands in a terminal
[17:24] <noren> martijn81: : sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:24] <martijn81> noren: i can't i do not get even a terminal anymore
[17:25] <noren> where are u stuck now
[17:25] <martijn81> it says something about /dev/sda but it does nothing
[17:26] <noren> boot back into recovery mode
[17:29] <noren> hi
[17:30] <martijn81> noren: how?
[17:30] <noren> sorry had to reboot
[17:30] <noren> did u boot back inn recovery mode, frm grub
[17:31] <martijn81> noren: how then, i see no options there
[17:31] <noren> how are u communicationg here
[17:32] <martijn81> noren: by a live-cd off cource
[17:32] <martijn81> course
[17:32] <snarkster> i was playing savage2 last night and now my keyboard is very slow. have to hold each key for 1 second for it to work
[17:33] <noren> boot frm the hard disk, use the recovery mode, u can use irssi frm the konsole from there to communicate
[17:33] <martijn81> noren: i know, but how do i get into recovery mode
[17:33] <martijn81> i do not get these options from grub
[17:33] <noren> in grub there are two option one normal and other is grub
[17:34] <martijn81> noren: ok but how?
[17:35] <snarkster> can someone help me with a slow keyboard issue
[17:35] <noren> well martine wen u boot frm hardisk do u get to the konsole ## from there u can run sudo apt-get install dist-upgrade
[17:35] <genii> martijn81: Usually you hit ESC when you see the grub loading message and then you get a menu
[17:35] <dotancohen> What's the issue, snark?
[17:36] <martijn81> noren: i do not even get the console enymore
[17:36] <martijn81> anymore
[17:36] <noren> martijn81: as genii said try hitting esc while bootup
[17:37] <martijn81> noren
[17:37] <martijn81> noren: and then?
[17:37] <martijn81> does it give me any options then
[17:37] <noren> choose the recovery option
[17:37] <impy> Does anyone have a link to a list of application launcher commands? Ubuntu 8.04 remix
[17:37] <martijn81> ok, i will try
[17:37] <martijn81> see you later
[17:39] <Pconfig> hey, anybody knows if there is a repo for kdevelop-kde4 in intrepid? Can't seem to find any
[17:40] <snarkster> dotancohen: i have 1sec delay between keypress and something displaying
[17:41] <snarkster> damn
[17:43] <udo> good evening. How I can install kde 4.2? On my PC i haven't install kubuntu or kde?
[17:44] <snarkster> slow keys is turned on. how do you turn it off
[17:44] <noren> udo: get a fresh install cd u can download it
[17:46] <thefish> udo what version of ubuntu are you running? I think it might be in intrepid default repos now
[17:46] <genii> snarkster: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=972627
[17:47] <genii> Bah they left already
[17:47] <udo> I've intrepid and how I can install the kde 4.2 -desktop in a exist system. I don't want to reinstall my OS!
[17:48] <JontheEchidna> udo: Go to Adept -> Sources -> Edit Software Sources
[17:49] <JontheEchidna> Then in the updates tab
[17:49] <JontheEchidna> check the unsupported updates checkbox
[17:49] <snarkster> wow slow keys... what possible use are slow keys?
[17:49] <JontheEchidna> close the window, then update
[17:49] <udo> i don't have adept. I've only ubuntu and synaptic!
[17:49] <JontheEchidna> oh
[17:50] <JontheEchidna> udo: you should be able to do the same thing from the Software Sources editor
[17:50] <JontheEchidna> enable unsupported updates then install kubuntu-desktop
[17:50] <JontheEchidna> snarkster: some people have disabilities that make it hard to type
[17:50] <snarkster> oh
[17:50] <snarkster> didnt think of that
[17:50] <snarkster> now how do you turn that on and off so i dont do it again
[17:51] <JontheEchidna> hmm
[17:51] <udo> backports or proposed?
[17:51] <JontheEchidna> udo: backports
[17:51] <JontheEchidna> snarkster: in the accessiblity section of system settings, in the modifier keys tab
[17:51] <JontheEchidna> there should be sticky keys settings
[17:51] <snarkster> ima lookin
[17:52] <JontheEchidna> oh, and in the keyboard filters tab there are slow keys settings
[17:52] <JontheEchidna> that's what you want
[17:52] <snarkster> wow
[17:52] <snarkster> I was just playhing away at savage 2 last night and it just went crazy...
[17:52] <udo> oh, i want install kde 4.2, but not other newer programms.
[17:53] <snarkster> is there a way to change the accesibility hotkey to something besides shift?
[17:53] <udo> like gimp and barsero
[17:53] <xjjk> quickie: what's the purpose of /etc/shadow-?
[17:53] <xjjk> if I make changes to /etc/shadow do they need to be made in /etc/shadow- as well?
[17:54] <snarkster> shadow- is a backup
[17:54] <Haza1> Afternoon folks. How can i get the print screen dialog up?
[17:54] <JontheEchidna> udo: If you add the kubuntu-experimental ppa  using the intrepid sources entries found here: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-experimental/+archive/ppa you should be able to just upgrade KDE
[17:54] <Haza1> I think my distro is toasted and print screen does not work :(
[17:54] <snarkster> thank you and good night
[17:54] <xjjk> snarkster: what creates it? am I fine editing only /etc/shadow and ignoring /etc/shadow-
[17:54] <udo> can I add this url to synaptic?
[17:55] <JontheEchidna> Haza1: what version of Kubuntu and KDE are you using?
[17:55] <JontheEchidna> udo: add this whole line:
[17:55] <JontheEchidna> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ppa/ubuntu intrepid main
[17:55] <Haza1> ]8.10 KDE 4.2
[17:55] <JontheEchidna> hmm, print screen works here with 9.04 and KDE 4.2
[17:56] <Haza1> JontheEchidna: Yeah i did an upfrage from 8.04 to 8.10 and the updrage was fail
[17:56] <udo> what does gpg-error mean?
[17:56] <JontheEchidna> Haza1: Could you got to the Input Actions section of System Settings and tell me what's there?
[17:56] <Haza1> Half my widgets doen't work for a start! :D
[17:56] <Haza1> JontheEchidna: Input Actions?
[17:56] <JontheEchidna> Yeah
[17:56] <udo> no public key.
[17:56] <JontheEchidna> In the General tab
[17:59] <Haza1> JontheEchidna: Cheers mate. I found it. There was no key assigned to ksnapshot
[17:59] <JontheEchidna> Yeah, I think I had to make one manually too
[17:59] <Haza1> JontheEchidna:  I assigned it and tested. It Works.
[17:59] <JontheEchidna> :)
[17:59] <Haza1> Thanks again
[18:00] <JontheEchidna> You're welcome
[18:02] <udo> I've added the whole line and would install kubuntu-desktop, then comes this message during the installation:
[18:02] <udo> kubuntu-desktop:
[18:02] <udo>   Depends on: "ark", but it is not installed.
[18:02] <udo> ..
[18:03] <JontheEchidna> what happens if you try to install ark manually?
[18:03] <udo> i'll check this
[18:05] <jeppeone_> Hello.
[18:05] <jeppeone_> Im in need of some help =/
[18:06] <udo> jeppeone, what is problem?
[18:07] <jeppeone_> I cant create an connection with 3g prefered only gprs and gsm. Yust installed Kubuntu and im downloading all the updates in 6000B/s
[18:12] <udo> what programm does you use?
[18:13] <jeppeone_> The built in Network Manager.
[18:14] <udo> what version does you use?
[18:14] <BluesKaj> jeppeone_ , can you see the network WAN or ?
[18:15] <jeppeone_> hm, i dont know what version it is =/.. It's a fresh install of Kubuntu 8.10
[18:16] <jeppeone_> BluesKaj, sorry im lost now? :$
[18:18] <BluesKaj> well jeppeone_, I'm not sure what you're trying to do
[18:19] <jeppeone_> BluesKaj, im trying to make my mobile internet use 3g and not gsm or gprs. :)
[18:19] <udo> its a connection with a mobile-phone?
[18:19] <jeppeone_> no it's with an Huawei E220
[18:21] <dotancohen> Does anybody know how to navigate the Buffer Tree in Quassel with the keyboard? I've tried [Alt||Ctrl] Arrow Keys and PgUp, PgDn
[18:21] <udo> its a usb-stick?
[18:21] <jeppeone_> ye
[18:22] <jeppeone_> it works but über slow speed.
[18:22] <udo> do you can connect the internet on another PC?
[18:24] <jeppeone_> Im connected to internet now. But the problem is that i cant connect to a 3g network since i can only make it connect to gprs or gsm no 3g option.
[18:24] <udo> does the huawei support 3g?
[18:27] <jeppeone_> ofc
[18:27] <udo> Sorry, I don't know what ofc is!
[18:28] <jeppeone_> Sorry :) Of course :)
[18:33] <schwalbe93> list jeppone_
[18:44] <will> What can anyone recommend to use for burning mp3 audio to cd's?
[18:57] <Dragnslcr> will- pretty sure k3b can do it
[18:58] <tmeixner> why do the canadian repositories have a download speed of an analog telephone line? I'm waiting 10 minutes for a apt-get update
[18:59] <will> It said unsupported format in K3B, so i went ahead and downloaded Brasero.
[19:00] <will> And Brasero run's slow as hell in KDE for some reason.
[19:06] <noren___> will: burn them as data cd
[19:08] <bostoncino> !list
[19:09] <bostoncino> hnhgg
[19:12] <will> Oh, i did not know you were suppose to burn them as data.
[19:12] <will> Well, that's helpful to know, haha.
[19:16] <reese> how do I find which file system I have my kubuntu on?
[19:17] <LjL> reese: "mount"
[19:21] <somekool> anyone using the old konversation with KDE 4.2  ?
[19:27] <dotancohen> @somekool: I'm using quassel and it's pretty decent
[19:27] <dotancohen> What do you miss from konversation?
[19:27] <dotancohen> I only wish that I could embed quassel in kopete, so that all my chats would be in one place.
[19:27] <dotancohen> I should file a bug
[19:32] <giuliano> olá
[19:33] <hibana> hi
[19:34] <giuliano> voce sabe se o megacubo tem versão para ubuntu?
[19:45] <hibana> bot: hi
[19:45] <hibana> hmm...
[19:46] <hibana> ubottu: hi
[19:46] <hibana> ubottu: help
[19:48] <Nortic> hi all
[19:49] <scott___> can someone help me enable direct rendering
[19:51] <Nortic> Can i create custom distr with Ubuntu Customization kit on Kubuntu?
[19:54] <Nortic> plz answer because I want install Kubuntu on machine where haven't internet connection
[19:54] <jussi01> Nortic: I beleive so.
[19:55] <jussi01> !uck
[19:56] <Nortic> Thanks!
[19:57] <trans_> So I think I found a bug in the developmental vesion in jaunty but am unsure of how to list it. Little help maybe?
[19:58] <jcprather> does 1024 open files not seem like a somewhat small limit for a badass workstation?
[19:58] <jussi01> trans_: please join #ubuntu+1
[19:59] <jcprather> kmail kept crapping out with too many open files until i checked "show only subscribed folders"
[20:05] <XPS_M1330> what packages are needed to handle ipod with amarok?
[20:06] <jussi01> !ipod
[20:10] <cajun> if i purchase an older internal DVD-ROM, is it an easy setup to make it work and play DVDs on my computer? running Intrepid
[20:11] <trans_> With the price of new dvd rom drives, there shouldn't be any reason to buy an older one. But yes, it shouldn't be that hard.
[20:11] <XPS_M1330> !help dbus
[20:13] <cajun> well i'm looking for something pretty cheap.
[20:13] <cajun> like <$30
[20:14] <cajun> i have found a few online.  i just wanted to make sure that they would work on my system.
[20:16] <trans_> Like I said, they should work. There are a couple of variables as to why they wont work, but most computers will take them.
[20:17] <trans_> Make sure you have an available IDE slot available or opening on a channel. If your computer is kinda old, you need to make sure the DVD drives aren't SATA or that you have SATA.
[20:18] <jcprather> in the 90's when graphics cards couldn't handle rendering stuff that well, i think i had a pci dvd decoder card that needed windows drivers
[20:18] <cajun> ok.  thx
[20:18] <jcprather> but that was just so that it could display despite my crappy 2meg s3 virge chip
[20:18] <jcprather> with decent video cards, i think any dvd drive should let software play it fine w/o such silly extra hardware and drivers
[20:19] <trans_> I agree JC.
[20:19] <jcprather> and afaik, they're all atapi compatible, unlike the ancient cdroms with their different interfaces
[20:20] <trans_> Also to play encrypted DVDs, you need to install some restricted software. Here is a link to the software : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[20:20] <cajun> thanks.  how can i doublecheck my motherboard to see if it can handle sata?
[20:20] <trans_> well, the instructions... not software:)
[20:20] <cajun> i believe it can. i'm not at home at the moment.
[20:21] <cajun> the motherboard is from 2004.
[20:21] <trans_> When you go home, look for these blue ports on your computer : http://www.hardwarezone.com/img/data/articles/2007/2387/p6ngm_sata.jpg
[20:21] <cajun> oh ok.  cool
[20:21] <trans_> They may not be blue
[20:21] <trans_> on your motherboard
[20:22] <cajun> ok.  thanks.
[20:41] <Laeborg> how can I restart X via terminal ?
[20:42] <rickest> Laeborg: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[20:42] <somekool> dotancohen: am I crazy or it seems Quassel is running a daemon to keep your IRC connection alive ?
[20:43] <Dr_willis> !find xcalib
[20:43] <Dr_willis> !info xcalib